Mar 04, 2025 City Council Regular Meeting

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EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE WILL BE NO ACTION TAKEN NOW. MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE

[I) Call Meeting to Order, Roll Call, and Excuse Absences]

AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MITCHELL. HERE.

HEIZER. HERE. RIZZO. PRESENT. ZUNIGA. PRESENT. HARRIS. HERE. MCKINNEY. HERE. TOBIAS. PRESENT.

[II) Approval of Minutes]

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. FEBRUARY 15TH, THE SPECIAL MEETING, AND ALSO THE SPECIAL MEETING FOR FEBRUARY 18TH AS WELL. SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER RIZZO, THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL

[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

FIRST UP IS TRACY. SHE'LL.

HELLO, MAYOR. MAYOR, PRO TEM, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS TRACY SHIELDS, AND I COME TO YOU AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR WATERLOO FALLS. AND ALSO, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF KYLE. SO THIS PAST SATURDAY MORNING, WE HAD 46 PEOPLE SHOW UP, INCLUDING COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY TO HELP WITH THE GREAT RIVER CLEANUP. IT WAS A SUCCESS. WE HAD, AS I SAID, 46 PEOPLE COME AND ALSO WE HAD THE VOLUNTEERS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD THE PARKS DEPARTMENT STAFF AND THEY WERE WONDERFUL. THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL. AND WE GOT APPARENTLY, I THINK IT WAS 32 BAGS OF TRASH, 500 POUNDS OF TRASH, AND THEY REALLY DUG DEEP, APPARENTLY TO GET SOME OF THAT STUFF. I KNOW THEY PULLED OUT ONE LITTLE TUNNEL CULVERT THING THAT WAS PRETTY BIG. AND THEN I KNOW THAT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO'S DAUGHTER ACTUALLY FOUND AN ILLEGAL LIKE CONSTRUCTION DUMPING AREA. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL PEOPLE STILL LEAVE TRASH, UNFORTUNATELY. BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE. IT'S ALSO DAYS LIKE TODAY WHEN IT'S JUST SLIGHTLY ON THE WINDY SIDE, YOU KNOW, AND TRASH CANS GET DUMPED OVER. AND THEN ALL OF THAT DEBRIS ALSO GETS, YOU KNOW, THROWN AROUND WITH THE WIND. SO AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, WATER LEAF PARK, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT IT IS A, YOU KNOW, EXTENSION OF WATER LEAF FALLS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT. IT IS A CITY PARK AND IT IS FOR THE CITY RESIDENTS. IT'S THE TRAILHEAD FOR THE NATURAL TRAILS. AND SO PEOPLE CAN GO AND CONNECT WITH NATURE AND NOT BE ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, DEBRIS. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

AND OH YES, ALSO ANOTHER GROUP THAT CAME WAS PACK 125 CUB SCOUTS. SO IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO SEE THEM. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE CITY. THANK YOU TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND ALSO A SHOUT OUT TO KATHY RAKER. THIS YEAR WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT ALL THE PREVIOUS YEARS THAT SHE WORKED DILIGENTLY AND HARD FOR TO KEEP THIS GOING. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT UP IS ZACHARY BARTON. HELLO EVERYBODY. EXCUSE ME. CAN Y'ALL HEAR MY CASUAL DRESS HERE? JUST CAME FROM HELPING PEOPLE PACK TO POTENTIALLY EVACUATE. BUT ANYWAY, TODAY, IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE NATIONAL DAYS OF PROTEST, I READ SOME SHORT

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YOU WAIT FOR THE NEXT AND THE NEXT. YOU WAIT FOR ONE GREAT SHOCKING OCCASION, THINKING THAT OTHERS WILL JOIN WITH YOU IN RESISTING SOMEHOW. YOU DON'T WANT TO ACT OR EVEN ACT ALONE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO MAKE TROUBLE. YOU'RE NOT IN THE HABIT OF DOING IT. AND IT'S NOT JUST FEAR. FEAR OF STANDING ALONE THAT RESTRAINS YOU. IT IS ALSO GENUINE UNCERTAINTY. UNCERTAINTY IS A VERY IMPORTANT FACTOR, AND INSTEAD OF DECREASING AS TIME GOES ON, IT GROWS OUTSIDE, IN THE STREETS, IN THE GENERAL COMMUNITY, EVERYONE IS HAPPY.

ONE HEARS NO PROTEST. YOUR COLLEAGUES, THEY SAY IT'S NOT SO BAD, OR YOU'RE SEEING THINGS, OR YOU'RE AN ALARMIST AND YOU ARE AN ALARMIST. YOU ARE SAYING THAT THIS MUST LEAD TO THIS AND YOU CAN'T PROVE IT. THESE ARE THE BEGINNINGS. YES, BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW FOR SURE? OR EVEN SURMISE THE END? BUT THE ONE GREAT SHOCKING OCCASION WHEN TENS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WILL JOIN WITH YOU NEVER COMES. THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY. IF THE LAST AND WORST ACT OF THE WHOLE REGIME HAD COME IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIRST AND SMALLEST THOUSANDS, YES, MILLIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN SUFFICIENTLY SHOCKED. BUT OF COURSE, THIS ISN'T THE WAY IT HAPPENS. IN BETWEEN COME ALL THE HUNDREDS OF LITTLE STEPS, SOME OF THEM IMPERCEPTIBLE, EACH OF THEM PREPARING YOU NOT TO BE SHOCKED BY THE NEXT STEP. SEE, IS NOT SO MUCH WORSE THAN STEP B, AND IF YOU DID NOT MAKE A STAND AT STEP B, WHY SHOULD YOU? AT STEP C AND ONE DAY TOO LATE, YOUR PRINCIPLES ALL RUSH IN UPON YOU. NOW YOU LIVE IN A WORLD OF HATE AND FEAR. NOW YOU LIVE IN A SYSTEM WHICH RULES WITHOUT RESPONSIBILITY, EVEN TO GOD. SUDDENLY IT ALL COMES DOWN ALL AT ONCE. YOU SEE WHAT YOU ARE, WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, OR MORE ACCURATELY, WHAT YOU HAVEN'T DONE. FOR THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS REQUIRED OF MOST OF US, THAT WE DO NOTHING. YOU REMEMBER THOSE EARLY MORNING MEETINGS WHEN IF ONE HAD STOOD, OTHERS WOULD HAVE STOOD. PERHAPS, BUT NO ONE STOOD. A SMALL MATTER, A MATTER OF HIRING THIS MAN OR THAT. AND YOU HIRED THIS ONE RATHER THAN THAT. YOU REMEMBER EVERYTHING NOW, AND YOUR HEART BREAKS TOO LATE. YOU ARE COMPROMISED BEYOND REPAIR. SO I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE DIFFICULT DECISIONS TO MAKE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS, YOU ALL ARE NOT ALONE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL THE FORMS THAT I HAVE. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A CITIZEN COMMENT FORM? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THAT PREVIOUS PRESENTER. THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT KIND OF A REMINDER. SO I HAVE TWO ITEMS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH I CONTACTED THE CITY MANAGER. I JUST FEEL LIKE I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED REGARDING THE RECENT AGENDA ITEM NOTIFICATION FOR THE UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETING FOR TODAY. AGENDA ITEM FIVE STATES RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING EXAMPLE PLAN A, I BELIEVE THIS NOTIFICATION MAY NOT FULLY COMPLY WITH THE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. SPECIFICALLY, THE DESCRIPTION LACKS CLARITY AND CONTEXT, PARTICULARLY REGARDING ITS CONNECTION TO OUR CITY'S REDISTRICTING EFFORTS. FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLIC AWARENESS AND ENGAGEMENT, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO SPECIFY THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM PERTAINS TO REDISTRICTING. A MORE DETAILED DESCRIPTION WOULD ENABLE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE DISCUSSION AND ENCOURAGE THEIR PARTICIPATION. I, MR. LANGLEY, WAS NICE ENOUGH TO WRITE ME BACK AND HE LET ME KNOW THAT IT WAS IN FULL COMPLIANCE. MY CONCERN IS THOSE WHO JUST READ THE AGENDA ITEMS AND WITHOUT KNOWING THAT IT'S ABOUT REDISTRICTING, THEY MAY JUST READ OVER THAT WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAILS OF THE BACKUP INFORMATION. THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS IS REGARDING THE PARKS SURVEY THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE USING FOR AGENDA ITEM FOUR. I DO HAVE A FEW ISSUES ABOUT THAT. I EMAILED EACH OF YOU GUYS ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT TO GO OVER RIGHT NOW. MY FIRST ISSUE IS THE SURVEY IS STILL OPEN, DESPITE THE WEBSITE STATING IT CLOSED ON 1206. EVERYBODY STILL HAS ACCESS TO IT. AND WHEN I SAY EVERYBODY, I MEAN ANYONE CAN ACCESS THIS SURVEY. NONRESIDENTS WITH NO FINANCIAL INTEREST AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IN AN EMAIL THAT I RECEIVED IN OPEN RECORDS, IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN LAUREN LYONS, THE BUSINESS RETENTION SPECIALIST FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, REACHED OUT TO DOCTOR WRIGHT, WHO IS THE HAYS CISD SUPERINTENDENT, ASKING HIM TO HAVE THE STUDENTS TAKE THIS TEST OR TAKE THE SURVEY. DOCTOR WRIGHT ASKED OR HE SAID, I'M GUESSING YOU JUST WANT CAMPUSES LOCATED IN KYLE. THANKS. THE RESPONSE TO THAT IS FOR THE SAKE OF ISD CONSISTENCY. AND SINCE

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[IV) Agenda Order]

[3) Consider approval of a resolution to appoint seven members to the Train Depot Board with Anthony Davis to Seat 1, Robert Spina to Seat 3, Patrick Gibson to Seat 5, and James Herbert to Seat 7, each expiring September 30, 2025, and Morgan Harrell to Seat 2, James Del Frate to Seat 4, and Margarita Crosby to Seat 6, each expiring September 30, 2026.]

[4) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the Parks, Recreation, and Open Space (PROS) Master Plan.]

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TRAILS, PLAYGROUND COURTS, FIELDS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IN REGARDS TO PRIORITIES, TRAILS WERE THE NUMBER ONE RESPONSE, FOLLOWED BY PLAYGROUNDS, SPORT COURTS, SOCCER FIELDS AND THEN AQUATIC IN THAT ORDER. IN TERMS OF INDOOR FACILITIES, THE TOP AMENITIES NEEDED. THIS WAS THE RESPONSE. OVERALL, 76% OF THE SURVEY RESPONDERS IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR INDOOR RECREATION. OF THAT, WE DO HAVE ALSO 76% RESPONDING IN THIS FAVOR UNDER THE AGE OF 25, AND THEN 70% WERE IN FAVOR OF AN INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY OR RECREATION CENTER OVER THE AGE OF 25. OVER THE AGE OF 40 WAS 70% AS WELL. WE HOSTED A TRAILS WORKSHOP. WE KNEW THAT TRAILS WAS A VERY TOP PRIORITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE, SO WE HOSTED A TRAIL SYMPOSIUM WORKSHOP WHERE WE INVITED STUDENTS, STAKEHOLDERS, COMMUNITY RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS TO REALLY IDENTIFY HOW CAN THE TRAIL SYSTEM BE IMPROVED AND WHAT ARE THEIR TOP PRIORITIES. WHAT WE WHAT WE LEARNED WERE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MISSING CONNECTIONS THAT WOULD REALLY HELP ELEVATE THE TRAILS SYSTEM TO MAKE THE TRAILS SYSTEM A MULTIMODAL NETWORK WHERE THEY CAN RIDE THEIR BIKE AND NOT GET IN A CAR TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE FRAGMENTS MISSING WHERE IT'S PREVENTING A LOT OF USERS FROM REALLY ACCOMPLISHING THAT. THERE IS ALSO THE NEED FOR A LOT OF JUST LIKE FURNISHED AND FINISHED TRAILS, YOU KNOW, WITH LIGHTING, TREES, TRAILHEADS, SHADES, ETC. ALSO THE LACK OF MARKETABILITY, I CALL IT, OR TRANSPARENCY IN REGARDS TO WHERE DOES THIS TRAIL TAKE YOU? WHERE CAN I PARK? YOU KNOW, HOW HOW CAN I USE THE TRAIL SYSTEM TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B ON A MORE REGIONAL SCALE? BUT YES, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, ABOUT 80% OF ALL RESPONDENTS MARKED TRAILS AS THE TOP PRIORITY REGARDS TO BUDGET. NOT NOT A

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BUT IT'S REALLY TO PUT THE CITY OF KYLE ON THE PLATFORM OF A PREMIER DESTINATION OF EXCLUSIVE AND A PLUS PARK AND RECREATION SYSTEM THAT WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE THAT MULTIPLE BENEFITS IN REGARDS OF ACCESSIBILITY, HEALTH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PROSPERITY. SO OUT OF THESE GOALS HERE, I'LL GO INTO THEM IN HIGH LEVEL. BUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE DRAFT OF THE MASTER PLAN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS OR SO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR GOAL, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS A DYNAMIC AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SERIES OF OBJECTIVES. SO WHAT DO WE WANT TO HAVE ACCOMPLISH THROUGH THAT GOAL, AND HOW ARE WE DOING THAT? BY REACHING THOSE OBJECTIVES. AND THEN THE STRATEGIES WHICH ARE GOING TO BE YOUR DAY TO DAY ACTION ITEMS TO REALLY HELP YOU ACHIEVE THESE THINGS. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DYNAMIC AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT ENHANCING PLAY, RECREATION AND ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL. NO MATTER OF YOUR AGE, DEMOGRAPHICS, ABILITIES, OR WHATNOT, WE WANT TO PROMOTE THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL WELL-BEING THROUGH ACTIVE RECREATION.

CREATE SAFE, WELCOMING, HIGH QUALITY PUBLIC SPACES, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALSO SUPPORT EMOTIONAL AND WELL-BEING THROUGH THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY IN THE DECISIONS, BUT ALSO AS PART OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A BALANCED AND CONNECTED SYSTEM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THINK OF IT AS A PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM, NOT JUST DIFFERENT FRAGMENTS, WHERE WE'RE ESTABLISHING SEAMLESS, MULTI-MODAL NETWORK OF PARKS, TRAILS AND PUBLIC SPACES THAT WE CREATE A BALANCED AND DISTRIBUTED PARKS AND RECREATION SPACES AND SYSTEM THAT REALLY CATERS TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, ENHANCE THE ACCESS AND MOBILITY FOR ALL RESIDENTS, AND FOSTER SOCIAL CONNECTIVITY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. YOU KNOW, FOR ACCOMPLISHING THAT BALANCE AND CONNECTED SYSTEM, YOU START SEEING SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS COME TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, BUT WHAT DOES IT REALLY LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU START ASSEMBLING THIS AND WHEN YOU START REALLY ACHIEVING SOME OF THESE GOALS, YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS A DRAFT OF A POTENTIAL SITE PLAN HERE FOR LINEBERGER PARK, WHERE WE'VE INCORPORATED A LOT OF THE ELEMENTS THAT THE COMMUNITY GAVE US FEEDBACK ON, BUT ALSO IN THAT IN THOSE DIFFERENT ASSESSMENTS, THE AREAS OF NEED, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN WE REALLY START CONNECTING SOME OF THOSE DOTS AND GETTING THAT RIPPLE EFFECT ON ON ACHIEVING SOME OF THE WINS THAT WE IDENTIFIED EARLY ON.

SEATON PARK, ANOTHER CONCEPT HERE, BUT THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, BRINGING SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS TO LIFE. WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THIS? YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE EXPERIENCE, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE? AND HOW CAN WE REALLY ENVISION A LOT OF THESE SPACES COMING TOGETHER? NOW KEEP IN MIND THIS IS THESE ARE JUST PRELIMINARY IDEAS AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU KNOW,

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BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO PROMOTE KYLE'S PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM AS A REGIONAL DESTINATION. AND THEN LASTLY, THE SUSTAINABLE RESOURCES. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABLE RESOURCES, WE'RE NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE TRADITIONAL SUSTAINABLE TERMS IN TERMS OF GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE OR RESILIENCY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS THE SYSTEM EXPANDS AS AS THE PARKS FACILITY INVENTORY EXPANDS, PARKLAND EXPANDS, SUSTAINABLE RESOURCES HAVE TO EXPAND TO KEEP UP WITH THAT SYSTEM, WITH THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE AND DELIVERY, YOU KNOW, SO WE WANT TO ENHANCE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES THROUGH SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES, SECURE LONG TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY AND FUNDING, BUT ALSO PROMOTE, PROMOTE STAFF DEVELOPMENT, SUSTAINABLE WORKFORCE PRACTICES THAT CAN BE GROWING WITH THE EDUCATION, WITH THE PARK SYSTEM AS IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX. AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE NOT ALL ABOUT PRETTY IDEAS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DO FOCUS ON IMPLEMENTATION. SO ONE ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN YOU SEE THE DRAFT OF THE MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO BE AN IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER THAT REALLY DEFINES THE ROADMAP OF HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THESE IDEAS AND, AND REALLY TRANSFORM THE PLAN FROM A VISION INTO REALITY.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE WE IDENTIFIED THOSE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THEMES BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. WE PROVIDED THE GOALS, THE OBJECTIVES, THE ACTION STEPS. RESPONSIBLE PARTIES IDENTIFIED, PROBABLE COST AND THEN THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THIS ASPECT OF THE OF THE MASTER PLAN AND LOOK FORWARD TO PRESENTING THE NEXT STEPS SOON. DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY WITH THE NEXT STEPS I GUESS? THANK YOU.

MARK. WE REALIZE THAT WAS A LOT TO PROCESS, BUT NEXT STEPS CAN INCLUDE US GOING BACK TO THE PUBLIC, CLOSING THAT FEEDBACK LOOP, GIVING THEM MAYBE A SUMMARY OF OUR FINDINGS, OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE ENGAGEMENT, AND THEN DRAFTING THE QUASI FINAL VERSION OF THE OF THE MASTER PLAN, DISTRIBUTING IT OUT TO CITY LEADERSHIP TO YOU ALL TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE USED TO INFORM OUR CIP, AT LEAST STRATEGICALLY LOOKING AT POTENTIAL FUNDING STRATEGIES. AND SO IT'S TIMELY WITH WHAT WE'RE WHERE WE'RE AT IN IN BUDGET SEASON IN PREPARATION. BUT AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTARY THAT THEY WANT TO PROVIDE TO THE PRESENTER? I THINK THAT'S VERY SPOT ON. I MEAN, IT'S CLEAR YOU'RE TAKING A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, SO I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT. AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DRAFT COMING WHERE WE CAN REALLY START TO SEE SOME OF THE NUANCES OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCILOR HARRIS, I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN OUR PLANNING, THAT WE'RE INTEGRATING WITH THE RESOURCES ON OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES SUCH AS THE EMERALD CROWN AND VIOLET CROWN TRAILS, THE USE OF LAND AROUND THE BLANCO RIVER AND ANY OTHER AREAS THAT WE CAN COORDINATE WITH. THANK YOU, DOCTOR HARRISON. WE EXPECT TO INCLUDE SOME OF THAT IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION RECOMMENDATION. COUNCILOR HAUSER. YEAH, THIS QUESTION IS FOR MARK. MARK, I SAW YOU OUT IN PERSON AT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY EVENTS WITH YOUR TEAM. WHAT ARE WHAT ARE YOUR SOME OF YOUR BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS FROM, YOU KNOW, 1 TO 1 CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAD THAT CAN'T REALLY BE MEASURED IN SOME OF THESE DATA POINTS? A LOT OF PASSION AND EXCITEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE. PEOPLE WANT TO USE PARKS THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE HERE, AND THEY'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE. BUT THERE'S AREA

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I DO ENJOY HOW YOU SPEAK OF THIS AS A SYSTEM, SO WE WANT TO BUILD THAT CONNECTIVITY. AND DIDN'T SURPRISE ME THAT TRAILS WAS UP ON TOP, BUT THEN WHAT JUMPS AT ME ALSO IS HOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT A BUDGET OF $4 MILLION THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MORE PER ACREAGE. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOU KNOW STAFF FOR THESE PARKS? THOSE ARE BIG NUMBERS. SO WE ALSO HAVE TO LIKE YOU SAID, ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE NOW AND HAVE THIS BIG VISION THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD SHOULD WORK IN KYLE. BUT THEN WE HAVE LIKE. YOU KNOW, AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE WATER, WATER AVAILABLE FOR THESE PARKS. SO IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN AND HAVE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE, I GUESS, INVESTING. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, IS FOLKS DO WANT TO SEE THEIR OLDER PARKS INVESTED IN. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STARTING TO DO. AND I CAN SEE THAT IN THE MASTER PLAN, SOME OF THE PROJECTS COMING. SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU TOUCHED ON THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE THESE FIELDS, AS YOU SAID, THAT ARE GREAT FOR EVERYONE TO USE, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM UP TO A HIGH STANDARD. AND THAT MEANS SHADE AND IRRIGATION, INDOOR, YOU KNOW, COOLING CENTERS AT A LOT OF THESE PARKS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T DO US A LOT OF GOOD TO JUST HAVE GREAT, MAGNIFICENT PARKS. BUT THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER, VERY HARD FOR ANYONE TO GO OUT THERE AND USE THEM. RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE PRESENTING THIS. I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH BACK ON THE NUMBER OF RESPONDENTS OF THE SURVEY. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD ENOUGH SAMPLE NUMBER? BECAUSE IT'S IT WAS 1700 RESPONDENTS OF FOR OUR CITY. SO IT SEEMED SEEMED LOW, SEEMED LIKE IT COULD BE SKEWED. YOU GOT 70% THAT SAID THIS IS WHAT THEY WANTED. BUT IS THAT 70%, YOU KNOW REPRESENTATIVE. STILL, I THINK THAT WE NEED STILL MORE

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COUNCILMEMBER. THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION. I DID WANT TO ASK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ALWAYS GET. I WAS WONDERING, YOU GOT THIS QUESTION IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING FOR OUR KIDS TO DO.

THERE'S NOTHING FOR THEM TO GO NOWHERE TO BE. DID YOU GET THAT QUESTION WHEN YOU WERE DOING YOUR SURVEYS, THE POP UPS? DID Y'ALL GET THAT QUESTION MUCH? WE DID. WE DID. AND WE ALSO HEARD I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT OR I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WHERE SOMETIMES YOU KNOW FOR US THAT THAT ARE VERY ZOOMED OUT LOOKING INWARD, WE'RE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, WELL WE NEED TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY IN THE SENSE OF IS IT TRANSPARENT THAT WHAT IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM OF KYLE? LIKE, IF YOU CAN, SOMEBODY WHO'S NEW TO TOWN GO IN AND SAY, I LIKE TO FISH.

OKAY, WELL HERE ARE THESE OPTIONS. YOU SHOULD EXPLORE THESE PARKS BECAUSE THEY HAVE SIMILARITIES, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT SORT. YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE TRAILS WORKSHOP SPECIFICALLY, PEOPLE SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS TAKES ME, AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT REALLY DICTATES ME OR INFORMS ME OF THAT. SO YES, WE HEARD THAT A LOT. YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE VARIOUS EVENTS THAT WE DID, PART OF THAT WAS WAS INFORMING THEM OF WHAT EXISTS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, NOTING THAT AS, AS AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT, THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M ALWAYS ASKED WHEN I'M ON THE COMMITTEE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING FOR OUR KIDS, THERE'S NOTHING. COWS HASN'T DONE A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING THINGS FOR OUR CHILDREN TO DO. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE QUESTION I'M ALWAYS ASKED. SO I WANT TO SEE IF YOU GOT THAT QUESTION AS WELL. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS THE NUMBER. I REALLY LIKE THE NUMBER 1700. THAT'S REALLY GOOD FOR SERVING KYLE. IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO DO SURVEYS. IT'S HARD TO GET THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. I WISH MORE PEOPLE WERE PASSIONATE LIKE YOU. I'D LOVE TO HAVE ALL THE RESIDENTS DO. THE SURVEY WOULD BE GREAT. UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T. BUT THIS WAS ONE OF OUR SUCCESS SURVEYS. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, I GOT REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT 4 OR 500 PEOPLE WERE GOING TO TAKE THIS SURVEY, SEE 1700. THAT WAS PRETTY AMAZING. I'M REALLY EXCITED. SO GREAT JOB TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. WE CAN CONTINUE TO GET MORE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. THAT'S AMAZING. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IMPACT, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHO'S GOING TO DECIDE ON. WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO IF WE COULD CONTINUE TO GET THAT COMMUNITY IMPACT. LOOK, THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT DON'T KNOW. I'M STILL GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHEN I'M OUT IN PUBLIC PLACES. PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOW BUILDING AN INDOOR FACILITY, SPORTS FACILITY. AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FELT LIKE, OKAY, THEY BEAT US. SO IT HAPPENS. BUT IT WASN'T A RACE. IT'S BECAUSE THEY HEARD THE NEED FROM THEIR COMMUNITY. THEIR COMMUNITY CAME OUT AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS

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MULTIGENERATIONAL IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR PARKS, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR OPEN SPACES, OUR TRAILS. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THAT. YOU GOT THAT FEEDBACK FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE, NOT JUST CHILDREN, BUT ADULTS, PARENTS AND EVEN ELDERLY. SO MAKING SURE EVERYBODY WAS HEARD IS IMPORTANT IN THAT CONVERSATION. BUT I THINK THIS WAS A GREAT SURVEY. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING MORE COMMUNITY IMPACT. AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, DAVID. COMMUNITY IMPACT INPUT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. MAKING SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WE'RE PUTTING THE INFORMATION OUT. EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING, HOW IT'S COMING, BEING TRANSPARENT AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY HAS A HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE US AND GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK WILL BE IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILOR TOBIAS, JUST REAL QUICK, DO YOU THINK A LOT OF IT WAS THE DRAWBACK? MR. DOCTOR ZUNIGA, WAS THE AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY. WAS IT THAT THEY WERE NOT SPECIFIC OR WAS IT BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I GO TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE, I GOT TO FILL THE IPAD AND I'VE GOT TO ANSWER 30 QUESTIONS, AND THAT TAKES ME JUST 30 MINUTES JUST IN MY APPOINTMENT. RIGHT. SO I WONDER IF IT'S A MATTER OF NARROWING DOWN THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT REACHING OUT TO THE AREA CHILDREN IN THE AREA LIKE STUDENTS AND SO FORTH. DID YOU GET A LOT OF GOOD POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF THE TEENAGERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR WAS IT JUST YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC AREA YOU HAD? WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK DID YOU GET RELATED TO PARK RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SAW THAT WOULD WOULD ADDRESS THAT AGE GROUP OF TEENAGERS, KIDS AND SO FORTH? RIGHT. SO TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION, YES, THE SURVEY WAS ROBUST, PARTLY BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS SINCE A PREVIOUS SURVEY OF THIS CALIBER HAD BEEN DONE. SO IT WAS PLAYING CATCH UP. AND AS WE'RE DEVELOPING A OVERALL MASTER PLAN, WE WERE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT EXISTING INVENTORY USAGE, RECREATION PROGRAMING AND FUTURE AMENITIES. SO WE TRY TO KEEP IT AT AND KEEP IT TO A LIMIT, BUT NONETHELESS, IT PROBABLY STILL TOOK ABOUT 20 MINUTES TO COMPLETE THE SURVEY. BUT NONETHELESS, WE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION OUT OF THAT. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, APPROXIMATELY ONE THIRD OF THE SURVEY RESPONSES ALONE. AND LET ME JUST REITERATE, WE HAD OVER 4000 DATA POINT AND PERSONAL TOUCH BASE ELEMENTS. SO ALL THE POP UP INFORMATION, THE STUFF THAT WAS NOT SURVEY, WE HAD ABOUT 4000 DATA POINTS THAT WE COLLECTED THROUGH CONVERSATIONS, THROUGH EXERCISES, THROUGH THROUGH BUDGET EXERCISES, THROUGH TRAILS, WORKSHOPS, THINGS OF THAT SORT THAT WERE MORE THAN JUST A SURVEY. SO 4000 DATA POINTS ON THAT, THAT PART, THE SURVEY ALONE, OUT OF OUT OF THAT APPROXIMATELY 1700 NUMBER, ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE RESPONDENTS WERE UNDER THE AGE OF 25, TWO THIRDS WERE THE REST. ALSO, WE GOT A GOOD REPRESENTATION FROM THE ENTIRE I MEAN, GEOGRAPHY OF KYLE. SO THE MOST WE GOT 377 RESPONSES FROM AREA DE, WHICH WAS OUTLINED AS THE DOWNTOWN SOUTHEAST KYLE QUADRANT AND SPILLING OVER EAST OF 35 SECOND WAS THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF KYLE, NORTHWEST OF 35, ABOUT 195 RESPONSES THERE. THESE ARE JUST SURVEY RESPONSES.

THIRD WAS THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT, NORTHEAST OF 35, WITH ABOUT 160 RESPONSES. LASTLY WAS THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT WITH 125 AND THEN 152 RESPONSES THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THOSE THOSE QUADRANTS, EITHER IN THE ETJ OR OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS. SO OVERALL, I THINK I THINK THE RESPONSES WERE PRETTY WELL REPRESENTATIVE NOT ONLY OF ONE SPECIFIC AGE GROUP OR DEMOGRAPHIC OR GEOGRAPHY, BUT ACROSS A GREAT, YOU KNOW, SEGMENTATION OF DIFFERENT COHORTS. WELL, GOOD. THAT'S GOOD TO SEE. SEE THE NUMBER AND THE DATA, WHETHER YOU'RE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, WHETHER YOU'RE HERE OR YOUR TAXPAYER OR WHATEVER, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN COMING TO KYLE, BECAUSE THERE'S PLACES IN OTHER CITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO GET INTO SOME OF THESE PARKS IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN OUR AREA. BY ALL MEANS, COME ON DOWN. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA

[5) Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding example Plan A provided by Bickerstaff Heath Delgado Acosta LLP.]

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WITH THAT, I'LL INTRODUCE COLBY CAPUTO WITH BICKERSTAFF. THANK YOU. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK. AS THE CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED, WE WERE GIVEN A BUNCH OF UTILITY DATA FROM THE CITY STAFF AND THEN USING, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATES OF POPULATION PER CONNECTION, WE COULD GET SOME SORT OF GENERALIZED PREDICTION OF YOUR CURRENT OR ESTIMATE, REALLY, OF YOUR CURRENT POPULATION BASED ON THAT. AND OF COURSE, IT'S JUST A SNAPSHOT AND IT'S AN ESTIMATE AND BUT IT SHOWS SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH. BUT AS CITY ATTORNEY SAID, IT'S GENERALLY ALL OVER THE CITY. MAYBE DISTRICT TWO IS GROWING A LITTLE BIT SLOWER THAN THAN FOUR AND SIX, BUT IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANTLY MUCH. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS FOR GOING FORWARD WITH REDISTRICTING. GENERALLY, WE DO HAVE THE BASE PLAN A, WHICH I CAN PULL UP. AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK FROM THAT AS A, AS A BASELINE AND HAVE THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE INPUT IF YOU WANT TO DO COMMUNITY HEARINGS. I KNOW WHERE I USED TO WORK WITH MISS ALCORN REED. WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ONE IN EVERY DISTRICT. I WILL SAY MOST OF THEM WERE NOT VERY WELL ATTENDED. SOME OF THEM WERE VERY HIGHLY ATTENDED. IT'S JUST UNPREDICTABLE. I'VE HAD OTHER CLIENTS THAT THEY JUST COMPLETELY DID IT AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC OTHER THAN IN A COUNCIL MEETING WHERE STAFF WERE PUBLIC, OF COURSE CAN COME AND PRESENT AND COMMENT. SO IT'S REALLY UP TO YOU ALL THE PROCESS YOU WANT TO FOLLOW. WHAT IS THE CORRECT KYLE WAY TO APPROACH THIS. AND THAT'S WHERE Y'ALL REALLY COME IN. SO I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS OR INPUT.

COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS AND YOU LOOK IN DISTRICT SIX RIGHT THERE WHERE DAISY LANE THERE'S THAT WHITE BOX AREA THERE. THERE'S NO IS THAT A REPRESENTATION AS WELL OR IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

BECAUSE I SEE IT'S ALL YELLOW OUTLINED. I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THE LASER WORKS. I BELIEVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT LITTLE ETJ HOLE. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT THERE. YEAH. THAT'S SO IT'S NOT CURRENTLY IN THE CITY, SO IT'S NOT CONSIDERED. YEAH. ANYWHERE THERE'S A HOLE LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD CALL A WINDOW PANE. IF IT'S COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY THE CITY BUT IS NOT IN THE CITY, IT'S STILL IN THE ETJ. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA, THE BENCHMARK DISTRICT OVERLAY. I KIND OF WISH YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TWO COLORS, BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY SEE WHERE THE OLD AND THE NEW MERGE, RIGHT? ARE YOU TRYING TO SHOW? SEE, I CAN'T SEE DISTRICT SIX. LIKE, WHETHER THAT SMALL PIECE USED TO BE A D6 AND THEN IN D2. OH, SHOOT. SORRY.

THERE'S A CORNER PIECE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT NOW. WENT INTO D6. THERE WE GO. YEAH, I WISH I COULD USE THE POINTER OR POINT ON THE SCREEN, BUT BASICALLY DISTRICT SIX GAVE UP TERRITORY ON THE EAST SIDE OR THE I MEAN, THE WEST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THAT'S THAT LITTLE RED BOX THERE. AND THEN IT MOVED SOUTH INTO DISTRICT TWO AND PICKED UP POPULATION THERE.

THAT'S WHERE THE YELLOW IS KIND OF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RED LINE. BUT YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY PLAY WITH THE WAY THE DATA IS PRESENTED OR THE INFORMATION IS PRESENTED. OKAY.

YEAH. YEAH. JUST I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING. I KNEW THOSE WERE THE PIECES THAT MOVED.

YEAH. DID YOU MOVE ANYTHING IN FOR D4? JUST GOT BASICALLY BACK ITS PIECE FOR. YEAH FOR INHERITED AS IT WERE. THE, THE AREA WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT HAD BEEN IN IN SIX. AND THEN THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN 2 AND 4 STAYED THE SAME. AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANTED TO WE HAVE TO KEEP THE DATA TO WHERE IT WORKS UNDER THE CENSUS. BUT IF WE WANTED TO USE THE NUMBERS WE HAVE SHOWING, YOU KNOW, THE GROWTH, YOU COULD THEORETICALLY MOVE THAT LINE NORTH. THE PART OF TWO THAT'S ON THE WEST SIDE. OR YOU COULD DO WHAT WE CALL A PUSH AND HAVE TWO GIVE BACK TERRITORY TO SIX AND THEN SIX PICK UP TERRITORY AGAIN ON THE WEST SIDE. YOU KNOW THERE'S A THERE'S A ULTIMATELY THERE'S AN INFINITE NUMBER OF WAYS TO GO ABOUT IT. BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO, TWO WAYS THAT IMMEDIATELY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP YOU THINK, OH, WELL, WE COULD DO THAT PRETTY EASILY. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, ONCE WE GET TO DRAWING AS AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, WE HAVE THE SYSTEM SET UP, Y'ALL CAN LITERALLY JUST KIND OF POINT. WE'LL MOVE THE LINES THE DATA AUTOMATICALLY COLLATES. AND SO YOU CAN SEE IN REAL TIME EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE DONE BY

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HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS AS YOU THINK ABOUT THE OPTIONS OF HOW TO PROCEED. SO OVERALL, THE DISTRICT THAT SHRUNK IS D2 GEOGRAPHICALLY RIGHT. YEAH. YES. AND IT MAY BE, AS I SAID, THAT MAYBE WE WERE SORT OF OVERPOPULATING FOR THINKING THAT MAYBE IT HADN'T GROWN AS FAST, BUT IT TURNS OUT IT'S GROWN JUST AS FAST AS EVERYBODY ELSE, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN TWO. SO IT MAY BE BETTER TO MOVE THAT LINE BACK. AND WE'RE WITHIN WITHIN THE DEVIATION THERE. WE HAVE SOME ABILITY TO DO THAT. WE COULD MOVE, YOU KNOW, SOME POPULATION BOTH WAYS AND MAKE THAT WORK. BUT YEAH THE GOAL WAS TO TRY TO KEEP THE BOUNDARIES GENERALLY THE SAME. SO THE VOTERS DON'T GET CONFUSED, YOU KNOW, EVERY TEN YEARS ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE.

BUT JUST AS A REMINDER, COUNCIL, THE REASON WE CAME BACK WITH THIS WAS THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE IN NOVEMBER. WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT THE GROWTH DATA AND TO LOOK INTO POTENTIALLY CREATING A PLAN WHERE THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE GROWING FASTER OR KIND OF UNDERSIZED IN THE TOTAL PLAN, AND DISTRICTS THAT ARE GROWING SLOWER, KIND OF OVERSIZE. SO THAT IN THEORY, WHEN WE COME BACK IN 2030, WE'LL STILL BE PRETTY CLOSE TO ON TRACK. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. OKAY. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS I LIKE THE MINIMALLY INVASIVE PART OF IT. SO BUT THE GENERAL APPROACH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK? YOU NEED SOMETHING FROM US OTHER THAN JUST MOVING FORWARD. BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU'RE GIVING US INFINITE, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO EASILY BE ABLE TO PICK SOMETHING OUT OF INFINITE. SO MY SUGGESTION TYPICALLY, COUNCILS HAVE SOME STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT WHERE A LINE SHOULD GO BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT MR. CAPUTO IS NOT GOING TO KNOW WHEN HE'S DRAWING THESE. YEAH. AND SO TYPICALLY THE NEXT STEP IS WE SET A MEETING, WE BRING IT UP AND WE PUT IT UP ON THE BOARD AND YOU GUYS CAN SAY, HEY, I THINK IT'D BE BETTER IF WE MOVE THAT LINE CLOSER TO STEEPLECHASE OR THAT LINE OF NORTH IN CENTER STREET, AND WE CAN JUST KIND OF CAN SHOW YOU WHAT WILL HAPPEN. AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT, MAYBE YOU HAVE A PLAN WE CAN BRING BACK TO ADOPT. WELL, IF YOU IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE 29TH TO DISCUSS WATER, THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER GOOD WORKSHOP TYPE ITEM TO ADD TO IT. I'M NOT TRYING TO. I DON'T KNOW IF THE 29TH WORKS OR NOT BECAUSE WE JUST GOT THAT EMAIL, BUT THAT WOULD BE A WAY IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I HAVE SOME MINOR COMMENTS I MIGHT WOULD MAKE. THINGS I WOULD ASK IS THAT WE GET CLEARER MAPS WHERE WE CAN REALLY SEE THE LINES. WE CAN REALLY SEE WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, WHERE IT'S CUT OFF. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I MEAN, BECAUSE THESE THESE MAPS AREN'T REAL CLEAR. SO WE GET SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR. I'VE SEEN HIM DO IT. HE CAN ZOOM IN AS HE'S LOOKING AT AREAS AND SHOW YOU PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE. BUT WE CAN SEND YOU MUCH LARGER MAPS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THEM AT HOME BEFORE WE GET TO THE MEETING. THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE HONESTLY, WE CAN DO THAT. I FIRST LOOKED AT THESE LINES. IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS JUST DRAWN OUT OF THE CITY AGAIN. I WAS LIKE, BOY, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE SECOND TIME. YEAH, THAT'D BEEN GREAT. ON THIS SIZE, I TEND TO PULL UP GOOGLE MAPS ON ONE SCREEN AND THIS ON THE OTHER, AND THEN I CAN KIND OF FIGURE IT OUT, BUT WE CAN GIVE YOU MAPS THAT ARE BIG ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN SEE EVERY STREET. THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THAT'D BE HELPFUL. SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE A CLEAR DECISION. YEAH. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO LOOKING AT THIS MAYBE MORE IN DETAIL AT THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ITEM, WHICH I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER, I DON'T YOU KNOW, HE'S TRYING TO SCHEDULE ONE. I'M NOT SURE WHEN IT WILL END UP BEING, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S ONLY ONE ITEM PLANNED FOR THAT MEETING. THIS COULD BE A GOOD SUPPLEMENT TO THAT. PROBABLY WOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG TO DISCUSS. IT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT WAS BROUGHT UP. SO YEAH, WE COULD JUST DISSECT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. YEAH. OKAY.

WE'LL BE GLAD TO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT AND BRING IT BACK. AND THEN YEAH, FOLLOWING THAT DISCUSSION, THEN WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE SOME KIND OF PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ACTION ITEM FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. ALL RIGHT. AND FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE GENERALLY DO HAVE THE LARGER MAPS AS WELL. SO THE PUBLIC KIND OF LIKE YOU WERE JUST DOING WITH THE PARKS MASTER

[VII) Consent Agenda]

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SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS SIX THROUGH 12 AND 14. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM 13.

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NOT A BRAND NEW OKAY. SO THEN WHEN WE ISSUED THIS, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF LIKE THE COST THAT FOR THIS SERVICE BECAUSE WE ISSUED AN RFP. BUT WAS THERE A BID. DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE BID AMOUNT. THIS WAS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. SO BECAUSE WE WERE HIRING AN ENGINEER WE DON'T SELECT BASED ON PRICE. WE SELECT BASED ON DEMONSTRATED COMPETENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS.

SO AFTER WE AWARD THE RFQ TO THE GOODMAN CORPORATION, THEN WE WILL ENTER INTO CONTRACT PRICE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM. AND THEN THAT CONTRACT WOULD THEN COME BACK TO YOU. AND YOU WOULD THE COUNCIL WOULD CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT TO AWARD THE CONTRACT, BUT THE QUALIFICATIONS. THIS IS THE FIRM THAT WE RECOMMEND IS THE MOST QUALIFIED TO DO THE WORK. YEAH, YEAH. SO THAT WAS THE PART THAT THE, THE NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT. LIKE I WAS KIND OF NERVOUS ABOUT HOW DO WE NEGOTIATE SOMETHING IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF BUDGET AMOUNT THIS KIND OF SERVICE COULD COST US? SO DO WE BASE IT OFF OF OUR LAST ONE? NO. IT'LL BE BASED ON THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE STANDARD AND CUSTOMARY RATES FOR THAT WORK. AS ROSIE MENTIONED IN STATE LAW, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EVALUATE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS BASED ON PRICE. THAT'S THE SPECIFIC PROHIBITION AGAINST THAT. SO WE'LL HAVE TO BRING BACK WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND THEIR FEES FOR THOSE THAT THE CUSTOMARY RATES, WHAT DO WE THINK THAT COST IS GOING TO BE? AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO DECIDE WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, DO YOU WANT ALL OF THOSE SERVICES OR SOME OF THOSE SERVICES, OR HOW WOULD WE AFFORD THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED? BUT THAT WOULD COME BACK IN THE NEXT STEP AND AS WE BRING THEM BACK TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME, FOR JUST THE RFQ, YOU DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE COSTS BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD LEAD TO YOU TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON COST. AND IT'S TRYING TO LIKE PICK AN ATTORNEY OR AN ENGINEER BASED ON THE CHEAPEST ATTORNEY OR THE CHEAPEST ENGINEER. THAT'S NOT THE WAY THAT WORKS IN THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES STATUTES. BUT WHEN WE DO BRING THE CONTRACT BACK, YOU WILL HAVE A FULLY SCOPED OUT AND PRICED OUT AGREEMENT TO CONSIDER AS PART OF THE BACKUP. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DECIDE, LIKE YOU SAID, ON THE OPTIONS OF THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED. RIGHT? OKAY. SO MY, MY THING WAS JUST I WASN'T SURE WHAT WE COULD BE STUCK WITH THE HIGH NUMBER AND WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE. SO AND YOU COULD CERTAINLY IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON A, ON A CONTRACT, YOU CAN GO THEN TO THE SECOND RATE RATED FIRM IN THE RFQ. OKAY. OKAY. THAT THAT

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AGENDA ITEM 13. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, COUNCILOR TOBIAS? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE WORKED WITH OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THE CITY WITH LEON AND SO FORTH. WILL THEY BE ABLE TO IF THIS GOES THROUGH IN THE FUTURE, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH OUR CITY? HOW WILL THEY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH OUR CITY GOING FORWARD? COMBINING WHAT KIND OF CONCEPTS THEY COME UP WITH, WITH WHAT OUR CITY IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE WOULD LOOK AT HIRING A COMPANY, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO GOT OUR CITY PLANS THAT WE HAVE AS WELL. HOW ARE THOSE TWO GOING TO COLLABORATE WITH EACH OTHER? YEAH. SO MIKE TRIMBLE, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS. SO THE WAY THIS PLAN WOULD WORK IS IT REALLY SETS THE TEMPLATE FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP OUR MULTIMODAL SYSTEM OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS OR SO. AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE GENERAL SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING THIS, THIS CONSULTANT TO DO IS TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND WORK WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP THIS. A PART OF THAT WILL ALSO COME OUT OF WHAT PROJECTS WOULD BE TEED UP. SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY GET SOME PRIORITIZED CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE'D LOOK TO DO TO START TO IMPLEMENT THAT. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE'S A CERTAIN ROADWAY THAT'S DETERMINED TO BE A FOUR LANE MINOR ARTERIAL IN THE FUTURE, THERE WOULD BE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OVERTIME, HOW THOSE PROJECTS WOULD BE PHASED IN. SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE THEN THE CITY STAFF WOULD COME BACK AND PRIORITIZE THOSE FROM AN ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PHASING AND BUDGETING AND POTENTIALLY FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ACTUALLY GET THESE IMPROVEMENTS IN OVER TIME, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS OUR OVERALL GOAL THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IS IDENTIFYING WHICH ROADS OR WHICH INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED. YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM THE BOND ROADS THAT WERE DECIDED ON YEARS, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, ON THE 2022, I THINK THAT WAS WHAT OUR WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY TRYING TO SEE WHERE OUR CITY WAS AT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO SAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, AND I WAS DIVIDING THE CITY UP INTO SECTORS LIKE NORTHWEST, SOUTHWEST, KYLE AND SO FORTH. THIS WOULD THIS COMPANY WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP DEVELOP OUR MASTER PLAN TO WHERE OUR CITY CAN THEN IDENTIFY THOSE SPECIFIC ROADS AND THEN PUT THEM IN PRIORITY LISTS LIKE WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED, AND THEN ADD THEM TO A CIP EVERY BUDGET YEAR. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD INTEND TO DO WITH THIS PLAN. SO WE WOULD HAVE HIGH LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT ROADWAYS TO IMPROVE AND HOW TO IMPROVE THEM OVER TIME. AND THEN WE A STAFF WOULD THEN, YOU KNOW, WORK ON OUR SIDE, POTENTIALLY WITH CONSULTANTS GOING FORWARD TO THEN PRIORITIZE WHAT WE WOULD DO. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF A LONG RANGE PLAN FOR A ROADWAY WAS TO EXPAND, IT CREATED A MULTIMODAL SYSTEM ON THAT ROADWAY. WE MIGHT DO A PRELIMINARY STUDY WITH THE CONSULTANT AND BETTER IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE AND HAVE A BETTER SCOPE PROJECT THAN WE WOULD ACTUALLY PRIORITIZE GOING FORWARD. AND SO THIS PLAN WILL HELP US TO GET THOSE KEY PRIORITIES FOR WHAT MAJOR CONNECTIONS NEED TO BE MADE, WHAT MAJOR ROADWAYS NEED TO BE IMPROVED, AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO START TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS WITH ACTUAL PROJECTS AND SCOPING THOSE OUT OVER TIME. SO YES, MY INTENTION WOULD BE OUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO CREATE THAT CIP PLAN. AND HOW HOW WOULD THIS COMPANY THEN WANT TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY JUST PASSED A ROAD BOND BACK IN NOVEMBER. HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOW WOULD THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE MESHING WITH THEM AS WELL? BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMBINE ALL OF US TOGETHER, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME STREETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT AT THE TIP OF A COUNTY. BUT THEN AGAIN, THE CITY TAKES OVER LIKE ABOUT ANOTHER THREE MORE MILES DOWN THE ROAD.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AS WELL. DO YOU THINK THIS COMPANY WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND SO FORTH WHEN IT COMES TO WHEN THEY START DEVELOPING THEIR SCOPE AND THEIR DESIGNS? THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THEY SPOKE TO IN THEIR PROJECT APPROACH, WAS THEIR ABILITY TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE DOING AND HOW TO COORDINATE WITH THEM. BOTH AGENCIES LIKE TXDOT, AGENCIES LIKE HAYS COUNTY, OTHER CITIES IN THE REGION. BECAUSE. RIGHT, IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY OF KYLE.

IT'S CONNECTING TO THESE OTHER PROJECTS. AND ON A ON A MORE RECENT SCALE, I WILL TELL YOU, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT COORDINATION WITH HAYS COUNTY, BECAUSE I'VE LOOKED AT THAT MAP AND OUR PROJECTS BUTT UP RIGHT UP AGAINST SOME OF THAT 2024 BOND PROJECTS. I'M VERY AWARE OF THAT. IN A PRIOR LIFE, I WORKED ON THE HAYS COUNTY PROGRAM. SO VERY AWARE OF THAT. WE'VE STARTED THOSE COORDINATION CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, AND WE'LL WORK WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THAT COORDINATION, AND THEY'RE VERY AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS PLAN AND HOW IT'S CONNECTING WITH THEIR PLANS AS WELL, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PROJECTS ARE EAST OF KYLE, SO IT'D BE FROM DISTRICT SIX AND DISTRICT TWO, AND IT'S GOING TO ALIGN WITH THE COUNTY BOND AND PRECINCT TWO AND ALL THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER

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THE INTER CITY CONNECTIVITY. AND SO I THINK THAT IS A PART OF WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT OR WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE BEST OPTIONS. AND AGAIN MULTIMODAL. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE DIFFERENT MODES I DON'T WANT TO SUPPOSE AND WE DO HAVE OUR CONSULTANT HERE. I DON'T PUT ANY WORDS IN THE CONSULTANT'S MOUTH RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND THEN COMING BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON ON HOW THESE THINGS MIGHT FIT TOGETHER OVER TIME. AND REMEMBER, THIS PLAN IS FOR THE LONG TERM. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK ANY MORE TO THAT. GREAT. YEAH. FOR THE CORPORATION. I'LL BE THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT. JUST A QUICK NOTE ABOUT ME. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER A DECADE IN CENTRAL TEXAS, WORKING WITH A LOT OF CITIES AUSTIN, ROUND ROCK, CEDAR PARK, LEANDER, BASTROP, FREDERICKSBURG, ALL OVER THE PLACE. SO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, YES, I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LONE STAR RAIL WAS KIND OF A HISTORIC EFFORT. YEAH. DONE STARTS AND STOPS OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS LEADING IT. I THINK AUSTIN HAD A BIG PART OF IT THE FIRST TIME UP NOW IS TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT I'M, I'M, I'M CONTINUING TO SEE A LOT OF DISCUSSION, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS. IF IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT BEING AN OPTION IN THE FUTURE. SO WHEN WE'RE PLANNING OUR ROAD PROJECTS, WE CAN COUNT THAT AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL HELP US TRANSPORT RESIDENTS BACK AND FORTH FROM WORK OR ANYTHING ELSE. YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT WOULD START WITH THE CONVERSATION ON THE FRONT END OF THE PROJECT WITH UP WHOEVER'S GOT THE ACTUAL RAIL INFRASTRUCTURE OWNERSHIP AND JUST SAYING, IS THERE POSSIBILITIES FOR SHARED USE OF THAT KIND OF FACILITY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE IN THE AUSTIN AREA WITH THE RED LINE ABOUT 15, 20 YEARS AGO? AND SO WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE PARTNERS. WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE TO JUST SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND THEN ELIMINATE FROM THERE IF THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. YEAH. AND JUST MAKING SURE WHEN WE'RE DOING THE PROCESS, WE'RE LOOKING AT AN EQUITABLE WAY TO DO IT AS WELL. I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE LIGHT RAIL HAVE NOT DONE IT IN A VERY EQUITABLE WAY, AND NOW IT'S HURTING THEM PRETTY HARD. SAME THING THEY'VE DONE WITH BUS SYSTEMS, THINGS LIKE THAT, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING THE EQUITY AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT PRICING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES IS A BIG THING, RIGHT? SO MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF WHAT TRANSPORTATION LOOKS LIKE, BUT STILL KEEPING AN EYE ON THOSE DOLLARS. YEAH. AND I WILL SAY ONE THING TOO, IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT CORPORATION WAS ACTUALLY FOUNDED AS A TRANSIT COMPANY. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE KIND OF WHOLE SUITE OF OPTIONS, NOT JUST THE COMMUTER RAIL, LIGHT RAIL, BUT LIKE OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT MIGHT BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR A PLACE LIKE KYLE. SO WE LOOK INTO ALL THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM 15. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH PEDERNALES ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE, INC. IN AN AMOUNT OF 1.6 MILLION, TO UNDERGROUND THE OVERHEAD UTILITY FROM FM 2770 TO FM 1626 FOR THE CROSSING ROUNDABOUT IMPROVEMENTS AT CROMWELL MANOR AND SANDERS. COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA, YOU PULLED THE ITEM. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE PRESENTATION, SO I'LL JUST JUMP TO THE QUESTIONS. SO I KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THE THREE DESIGN ROUNDABOUTS AND THEY ARE TWO WAY, WHICH CAN BE A BIT CONFUSING. BUT MY CONCERN IS LIKE ON THE LIGHT POLES THAT ARE COMING DOWN, THAT WE STILL HAVE SUFFICIENT ADEQUATE SAFETY LIGHTING FOR, FOR PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE WALKING THROUGH THERE. SO IT SAYS THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE LIGHTING THAT WE LOSE FROM THESE POLES AS WE FINISH THIS OUT. YEAH, THAT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING ON THE PROJECT. I'LL ASK LOSING MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TO ALSO RESPOND ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE SO, YES. HI. LOSING ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING. SO ILLUMINATION IS CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE PROJECT IMPROVEMENT FROM 2770 TO 1626. SO FOR ALL THE UNDERGROUNDING WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT IS APPROVED BY TOURISTS TO BOARD FROM 2770 TO CROMWELL. WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING ALL THOSE LIGHTING TO ENSURE THERE'S ENOUGH ILLUMINATION FOR THAT SECTION OF THE ROAD. THERE ARE FOUR STREET LIGHTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF 1626. HOWEVER, THE PEAK LIGHTS, THOSE LIGHTS ARE ON THE WOODEN POLES. THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TEXTILE LIGHT. AND FOR THE FIRST LOOK STAFF EVALUATION, WE THINK THERE'S ENOUGH COVERAGE FROM THE

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SO WE DON'T HAVE THE AGAIN, FROM THE ESTHETIC PERSPECTIVE, HAVING THOSE LINES OVERHEAD, UNDERGROUNDING WHERE WE CAN, WHERE IT'S FEASIBLE TO DO. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH PECK TO DO THAT THROUGH THIS AGREEMENT. AND WE'LL BE USING THIS THIS STANDARD AGREEMENT, THIS TEMPLATE BASICALLY TO DO AGREEMENTS ON SEVERAL PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT SIMILAR PARTNERSHIPS FOR UTILITY RELOCATION. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS, ANYTHING ON LIGHTING? COLORS CROSSING IS PRETTY WELL LIT. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS THAT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE CONSIDER THAT THE LIGHTING NEEDS TO NOT BE AS BRIGHT AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT BECAUSE AND YOU KNOW THIS, BUT COMING AROUND THOSE ROUNDABOUTS, IF YOUR EYE IS HAVING TO CONSTANTLY ADJUST TO THE SHADOWS AND TO THE LIGHTING, THAT'S A PROBLEM. ESPECIALLY FOR OLDER PEOPLE LIKE ME. SO THE LIGHTING REALLY SHOULD BE SHOULD TEND TO BE MORE SUBTLE THAN YOUR NORMAL STREET LIGHTING THAT IS THERE NOW. WELL, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER. AS AS WE'RE STARTING TO PUT MORE ROUNDABOUTS IN PLACE AS FAR AS THE ILLUMINATION. AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ON THE PROGRAM SIDE, IS LOOKING AT OUR WHOLE ILLUMINATION PROGRAM AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE LIGHTING, BUT IT'S ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE CONTEXT OF THE OF THE ROADWAY OR IMPROVEMENT THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE. AND THAT AREA IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL. YEAH, THANKS. IT WILL BE DARK SKY FRIENDLY. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE ROADS. WE'RE MASTER PLANNING AND TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN. WE DEFINITELY ADDED THAT COMPONENT TO IT. SO MAKING SURE WE GOT PLENTY OF ILLUMINATION, PLENTY OF ILLUMINATION POINTING DOWN. SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE LIGHT POLLUTION. SO WE'RE WE DEFINITELY ARE COGNIZANT OF THAT WHEN WE'RE GOING FOR OUR DESIGNS. I WOULD ASSUME THE LIGHTING HAS ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED OR. NO. YEAH. FOR THE MOST PART IT HAS BEEN DESIGNED. BUT AGAIN, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH OTHER PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE ARE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ILLUMINATION AND KIND OF AGAIN, DOING THAT ASSESSMENT GOING FORWARD. BUT YES, A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN PROGRAMED. CAN YOU ALL CAN YOU ALL SEND THE COUNCIL THE PLANS SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT LIGHTS ARE GOING IN AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE? I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US A LOT BECAUSE I JUST, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A HAPPY MEDIUM BETWEEN ILLUMINATION AND ALSO PROTECTIVE PROTECTING OF DARK SKIES, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT'S COMING OR NOT. AND I THINK COUNCILMAN HARRIS WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT TOO, I'M SURE. ABSOLUTELY. SO ALL RIGHT. MOTIONS. MOVE. APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 15.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCILOR HARRIS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 15. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL

[16) Consider approval of a resolution to approve an agreement with Housing Works Austin to conduct a housing study for an amount of $45,000. ]

THIS MATERIAL IS FROM OUR PARTNERS AT HOUSING WORKS OF AUSTIN. THE ASSESSMENT RESEARCH WILL INCLUDE A HOUSING INVENTORY AND DATA NEEDS, DATA REGARDING CURRENT HOUSING AVAILABILITY AND HOUSING NEEDS WILL BE COLLECTED AT DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS AND WILL BE INCLUDED, INCLUDING AN INVENTORY OF ALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, HOUSING DYNAMICS AND CONDITIONS, DATA ON FAMILY AND HOUSEHOLD INCOME, FAMILY AND HOUSEHOLD MAKEUP AND HOUSING TENURE. QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT OF HOUSING NEEDS. QUALITATIVE DATA THROUGH POLICY MAKER AND CITY STAFF INTERVIEWS AND OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, INCLUDING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK SESSIONS. HOUSING SUPPORT PROGRAMS ASSESSMENT WHICH WILL INCLUDE INFORMATION ON EXISTING HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY SUPPORT PROGRAMS, AND THEN EXISTING REPORTS. LOOKING AT AN ASSESSMENT OF AND ANALYSIS OF EXISTING PLANS AND REPORTS THAT MAY BE IN PLACE. THEY'VE OUTLINED SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEEDBACK, INCLUDING KEY STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS. UP TO 30 INTERVIEWS WITH STAKEHOLDERS,

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BASED ON STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE. PRELIMINARY INFORMATION MAY ALSO BE SHARED WITH OTHER GROUPS FOR FEEDBACK. THE TIMELINE THAT WE ANTICIPATE AT THIS TIME WILL BE APPROXIMATELY SEVEN MONTHS, TAKING US INTO SUMMER TO FALL, WITH PRELIMINARY FINDINGS COMING BACK IN THE FALL. OVERALL, THE COST OF THE STUDY IS $65,000. $45,000 WILL COME FROM THE CITY OF KYLE, AND $20,000 WILL BE PROVIDED TO HOUSING WORKS THROUGH EXTERNAL PHILANTHROPIC GRANT THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED AND ALLOCATED TOWARDS WORK IN KYLE. AND THAT GRANT IS SPECIFICALLY FROM THE ASSET FUNDERS NETWORK, WHICH IS A CENTRAL TEXAS PHILANTHROPIC GROUP. FOR THAT, HOUSING WORKS HAS TO CONDUCT RESEARCH AND PROVIDE SUPPORT TO LOCAL PARTNERS FOCUSING ON ADVANCING REGIONAL AFFORDABILITY. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME PHILANTHROPIC WORK THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS REGION. SO THE OPTIONS WE HAVE TODAY ARE TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION, TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT, OR TO DENY APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. COUNCILMEMBER HAUSER, THANK YOU. ROSIE. IS NOW THE TIME WHERE YOU WOULD WANT ANY SORT OF FEEDBACK ON THE SCOPE? SURE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN ADD SOME COMPS TO OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED GROWTH SIMILAR TO OURS, LOOKING AT LIKE MEDIAN INCOME AND HOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN COMPS, IF IT DIDN'T END UP WELL IN TERMS OF HOW THIS CITY'S.

CHOSE TO DEVELOP AS A RESULT OF THAT GROWTH, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC CITIES IN MIND? NO, BUT I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO LOOK INTO IT IN THE GEORGETOWN, PFLUGERVILLE, CEDAR PARK, YOU CAN LOOK AT NEW BRAUNFELS. SO THOSE ARE CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN GROWING PRETTY QUICK. SO THAT ARE ON THE I-35 CORRIDOR. LOOK, HONESTLY, I KEEP THINKING THE WAY GEORGETOWN AND, YOU KNOW, ROUND ROCK HAVE DEVELOPED, WE'RE KIND OF SEEING THAT TREND HAPPEN THIS WAY NOW. SO IF THEY'VE GONE THROUGH IT, MAYBE THEY'LL REACH OUT. YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THEM, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY POINT THE CONSULTANT IN THOSE DIRECTIONS. NO, NO, NO, THAT THAT'S TOTALLY FINE. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE OF, OF SOME OTHER PLACES WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS SIMILAR SIMILARITIES AND LOOKING AT WHAT THEIR PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWN IS OF HOUSING INVENTORY BASED ON INCOME AND HOW INCOME ROSE OR SHRUNK BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. OKAY, OKAY. COUNCILOR TOBIAS, SHOULD WE ALSO LOOK AT MAYBE OUTSIDE OF CENTRAL TEXAS, SHOULD WE LOOK AT MAYBE UP IN THE DALLAS AREA OR OTHER AREAS AROUND, OR ARE WE GOING TO BE SPECIFICALLY WITH JUST OF COURSE, WE WANT TO STAY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT MAYBE JUST DIFFERENT AREAS THAT HAVE SHOWN THE PARTICULAR GROWTH, BECAUSE I KNOW JUST IN NEW BRAUNFELS AND KYLE AND CEDAR PARK, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES ON THIS PLANET. THERE'S OTHER CITIES OUT THERE AND IN ACROSS THE STATE. WE CAN KIND OF COMPARE THAT, THOSE TYPE OF NUMBERS AS WELL, TO SEE WHERE THE POPULATION IS COMING AND GROWING IN DIFFERENT AREAS, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S THE THOUGHT OF PEOPLE MOVING TO TEXAS, BUT WE'RE POPULATING BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT LEAVING TEXAS AS WELL, OR LEAVING THE AREAS BECAUSE FAMILIES GROW UP HERE, THEY GRADUATE HERE AND THEY WORK AND THEY BUY HOMES HERE. SO MAYBE SEEING THOSE NUMBERS AS WELL AND EDUCATION WORK, YOU KNOW, A

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SO I KNOW YOU'RE A BIG PROMOTER OF HOUSING OPTIONS, MR. HEIZER. WE JUST HAD LIKE A HOUSING ANALYSIS LAST YEAR, DIDN'T WE. SO, LIKE, WHAT NEW INFORMATION ARE WE LOOKING FOR HERE? LIKE, IS THE GOAL TO TRY TO FIND OUT HOW DO WE GET MORE MARKET RATE HOUSING FROM DEVELOPERS? IS THAT LIKE WHAT IS WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS CONTRACT? BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSING THAT'S GOING ON IN. KYLE. WHAT IS IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE? THERE'S A LOT OF APARTMENTS. THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES FOR RENT. DO WE NEED MORE HOUSING? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, OR DO WE NEED A SPECIFIC SOCIAL ECONOMIC GAP OF HOUSING THAT THAT WHAT IS IT YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND? WELL, WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WAS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, DO WE NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING? THIS IS WHAT WHAT DO OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS LOOK LIKE? SO I THINK TO YOUR LATTER POINT OF THE SOCIOECONOMICS OF IT ALL, AND HOW DO WE CREATE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES THAT PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, HOMEOWNERSHIP, THAT PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GROW GENERATIONAL WEALTH? THE NUMBER ONE FACTOR THAT LEADS TO GENERATIONAL WEALTH IS OWNING PROPERTY. HOW DO WE LOWER THE BARRIER TO ENTRY FOR KYLE RESIDENTS TO OWN HOMES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD? I THINK JUST LOOKING AT THE HOUSING BUBBLE FROM 2020 TO 2022, YOU HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MOVED HERE AND PURCHASED HOMES THAT THEY COULDN'T NECESSARILY AFFORD OR NECESSARILY NEEDED, JUST BECAUSE THEY HAD TO LEAVE OTHER AREAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WERE WERE, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF LIVING INCREASED, YOU KNOW, BEFORE BEFORE OURS, YOU KNOW, GENTRIFICATION TYPICALLY HAPPENS WHEN CITIES EXPERIENCE RAPID GROWTH. THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO TRY TO PREVENT. AND IF WE CAN GLEAN ANYTHING FROM A STUDY ON WHAT HOUSING INVENTORY COULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE TO HELP US MAKE BETTER EDUCATED DECISIONS, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING. I THINK THIS IS A VERY WISE INVESTMENT. I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR HOUSING BECAUSE IT PROVIDES SECURITY FOR PEOPLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE MORE AFFORDABLE YOUR HOUSE IS, THE MORE YOU CAN INVEST IN EDUCATION, WHICH GETS YOU, YOU KNOW, MOVING, YOU KNOW, INTO A BETTER FINANCIAL SITUATION. SO THOSE THINGS I AGREE WITH, I JUST WASN'T SURE IF YOU'RE IF THE INTENT IS TO FIND WHERE THERE'S A LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MAYBE IN DESIRABLE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DIVERSIFY MORE IN. BUT IF IT'S TO CONCENTRATE IN, AS WE LOOKED AT SOCIAL VULNERABILITY AREAS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO BE DOING THAT. YOU KNOW, PER SE. THIS INFORMATION, I THINK, CAN HELP US ADDRESS THOSE AREAS IN WHICH THERE ARE SOCIAL VULNERABILITIES WHEN IT COMES TO HOMEOWNERSHIP AND AFFORDABILITY.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT WHAT OUR HOUSING INVENTORY IS NOW FROM SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOMES, CONDOS, APARTMENTS, THAT'S DOESN'T IT MAKES OUR JOBS MORE DIFFICULT WHEN WE ARE PRESENTED WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS, AND WE HAVE TO TRY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON WHAT THOSE DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD LOOK LIKE, WE DON'T WANT MORE OF THE SAME. WE WANT TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH THE ABILITY TO BUY IN AT DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS, AND DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS REQUIRE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, RIGHT? YEAH, I WOULD JUST BE CAREFUL OF NOT CREATING MORE, MORE SOCIAL

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COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR MCKINNEY, I'LL ADMIT, I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW WE WERE GOING TO USE THIS DATA ONCE WE GOT IT. BUT HAVING HEARD A LITTLE OF THIS CONVERSATION, IF IT HELPS US TO PLAN OUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS WITH A LITTLE MORE INTELLIGENCE AND A LITTLE MORE FORETHOUGHT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROVIDING THE BEST VALUE TO OUR CITIZENS, IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER. COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS. YEAH, BECAUSE THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, IT, IT IT WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH OUR COMPREHENSION PLAN, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT, WE'VE HAD MANY, MANY MEETINGS OVER THAT THROUGH THE YEARS. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT THE CITY AT LEAST HAS SOME FORM OF DATA, SOME, SOME MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE A LOT OF THESE HOUSING ARE IN OUR CITY AS THE POPULATIONS CONTINUE TO GROW. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR AFFORDABILITY, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LACK OR NEED OF OR THE ABUNDANCE OF TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND SO FORTH, WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US TO WHERE LIKE WHAT TO COUNTER OFF OF, COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM HEIZER SAYING, WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THAT WHEN WE START PLANNING FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS. AND WE COULD JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE THE GAP IS AND IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF SERVICES, CITY SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR, LET'S SAY OFFICE SPACE FOR UTILITIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN KIND OF SEE THE AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT NEED THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS FOR OUR CITY. SO BECAUSE WE GOT WE'RE STILL EVOLVING, WE'RE STILL GROWING. AND SO WE JUST I THINK IT WOULD JUST HELP US IN THAT SENSE TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. COUNCILOR RIZZO. GOOD. MARK. HEAD ON. YEAH, YEAH. SO WHAT I WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, NUMBER ONE, I THINK THAT THIS IS VERY GOOD FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED. BUT THE, THE COMPARATIVE COMPARATIVE CITIES QUESTION, I THINK IS VERY INTERESTING. I THINK THE DALLAS SUBURBS, IF WE THINK ABOUT MEDIAN INCOMES IN AREAS, YOU KNOW, THE EVEN THE NORTHERN SUBURBS IN AUSTIN HAVE A 30 TO 50% HIGHER MEDIAN INCOME EVERY EVERY ZIP CODE. YOU GO FURTHER NORTH, THE MEDIAN INCOME GROWS. THE COMPARABLE CITIES I THINK OF ARE SOME OF THE HOUSTON SUBURBS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE RICHMOND OR PEARLAND. I THINK OF SEGUIN. IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE A DALLAS SUBURB OR A FORT WORTH SUBURB, IT MIGHT BE MORE LIKE BURLESON OR BASICALLY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BECAUSE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY, OFTENTIMES THE HIGHER END DEVELOPMENT ALWAYS GOES TO THE NORTH END. THE, YOU KNOW, THE SOUTH END GETS IT DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD AND HAVE SEEN REPORTS THAT KYLE HAS, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT, THE IT'S THE NUMBER ONE REASON PEOPLE COME HERE IS FOR AFFORDABILITY. BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE INTO THE CREATION OF WEALTH, LIKE WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM WAS TALKING ABOUT. AND REALLY JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE HAVE. AND THEN AND THEN WHERE OUR GAPS ARE, I THINK WOULD BE EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN PLANNING.

AND ALSO IT'S A TOOL THAT WE COULD USE WHEN DEVELOPERS COME AND TRY TO TELL US WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE. THEY IT'S REALLY COMMON FOR DEVELOPERS TO JUST PIGEONHOLE US AND SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO YOU HAVE TO DO THIS ONE THING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE KNOW WILL SELL DOWN HERE. AND THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN OUR BEST LONG TERM INTEREST. SO A GOOD COMPREHENSIVE STUDY I THINK WOULD WOULD HELP WITH THAT. CUSTOMER. HARRIS. WELL, THIS INCLUDE THE ETJ. I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE'RE PREDOMINANTLY TALKING ABOUT INCORPORATED CITY LIMITS. I'D SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE ETJ. MY SENSE RIGHT NOW IS THAT ALTHOUGH KYLE HAS A REPUTATION FOR BEING VERY

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IT'S GOT TO BE DIVERSE SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIVE WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE AND NOT BE FINANCIALLY AN OBSTACLE FOR THAT. SO WHAT THIS WHAT THIS STUDY WILL DO IS IT WILL IT IS PURPOSEFULLY NOT FOCUSING ONLY ON INCOME RESTRICTED OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S PURPOSEFULLY TAKING A MUCH BROADER LOOK SO THAT WE'LL HAVE DATA AND STRATEGIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN CHOOSE TO USE TO HELP GUIDE THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY WANT TO COME HERE, SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING TO BASE OUR FEEDBACK TO THEM ON. SO IT GIVES US BASICALLY THE AMMUNITION THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPMENTS WHEN THEY'RE COMING. I WOULD JUST I WOULD JUST ADD ONE MORE ELEMENT. I THINK DISCUSSION HAS BEEN INTERESTING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE COMPARABLES AND HOW DO WE TRY TO MEASURE THOSE. I THINK WE CAN LOOK AROUND THE STATE TO FIND SOME THAT ARE CLOSE TO OUR MEDIAN INCOME, WHETHER A PLUS OR MINUS FACTOR ON MEDIAN INCOME. AND LOOK AT THE AFFORDABILITY THAT WE HAVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND COMPARE THAT THEN TO THE KYLE COMMUNITY TO SEE HOW WE STACK UP AGAINST THOSE COMPARABLES. AND THEN WHAT ARE THE SHORTCOMINGS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN TRY TO OUTLINE STRATEGIES TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING THAT WILL MEET SOME OF THE GAPS THAT WE HAVE. I THINK FOR US, THE FIRST THING IS TO TRY TO SEE, WELL, WHAT IS THE DATA SAY? I THINK KYLE IS GENERALLY AFFORDABLE. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IT GROWING SO MUCH. THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE COMING TO KYLE FOR LOTS OF REASONS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S PERFECT. AND THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE HOUSING SUPPLY AND SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WE SEE. SO WHAT ARE THOSE GAPS AND THEN WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES TO TRY TO ATTACK THE GAPS THAT WE SEE. THAT'S I THINK THE REALLY THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENT OF THE STUDY THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. BUT I THINK WITH THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE HAD EARLIER, WE CAN TRY TO LOOK AROUND THE STATE TO TRY TO MAYBE FIND WHAT DO WE THINK ARE THE RIGHT COMPARABLES OUT THERE THAT KIND OF MATCH UP WITH KYLE, AND HOW DO THEY FIT WITH SOME OF THESE METRICS, AND THEN HOW DO WE COMPARE? HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD HELP PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT. WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. AND THEN BASED ON THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE MORE WORK, MORE ANALYSIS DONE ON THAT. BUT MAYBE THAT'S A FIRST STEP TO TRY TO PROVIDE AT LEAST A BENCHMARK OF WHERE WE ARE. IS THAT IS THAT HELPFUL? YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE GOOD TO SEE WHAT OUR MEDIAN INCOME IS OVER TIME.

RIGHT. BECAUSE WHEN I WAS FIRST HERE, THE MEDIAN INCOME WAS LIKE 88,000. I THINK NOW IT'S LIKE 8081. AND SO THAT'D BE I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT FACTORS HAVE HAVE LED TO LOWER MEDIAN INCOME IN THE CITY? I COULD THINK OF A LOT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY A NEGATIVE THING, BUT IT'S JUST FACTORS. SO JUST SOMETHING I LIKE TO SEE THE TRENDS IN GROWTH. I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING? IS OUR ELDERLY POPULATION GROWING OR ARE, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES GROWING? WHAT WHAT'S DRIVING THE GROWTH? YOU KNOW, IS IT SINGLE PEOPLE? I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING FOR. TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE VOTING ON A FEEL GOOD PROGRAM. I THINK THIS WAS ALL ABOUT DATA AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN THE CITY. SO YEAH, I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR A FEEL GOOD PROGRAM, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

ALL RIGHT. NO, NO, I AGREE, MR. RIZO. IT'S JUST SOMETIMES WE TAKE A VOTE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO FEEL GOOD, RIGHT? I WANT IT TO BE MEANINGFUL. COOL. AWESOME. I AGREE WITH THAT. MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 16 SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 16. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. COUNCILOR

[18) Consider directing the City Manager to evaluate options and provide recommendations to the City Council on how to improve traffic safety at the intersection of Dacy Lane and Downing Way.]

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RESIDENTS. THERE'S A RESIDENT THAT LIVES NEARBY STATED THAT THEY ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE THAT THEY'VE SEEN AT LEAST 7 TO 8 ACCIDENTS IN THIS CORNER. AND MY PROJECTION IS I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH SPEED. AND I'LL CALL IT UP HERE IN JUST A MOMENT TO DISCUSS A LOT OF THAT.

BUT ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO PUSH FORWARD WAS TO TRY TO GET A SPEED STUDY OR NOT SO MUCH A SPEED STUDY, BUT A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE TWICE AN STD STUDY TO SEE IF A STREET LIGHT IS COMPARABLE TO THAT AREA. I THINK THE LAST ONE THAT WE SUBMITTED OUT, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO, THE DAY THAT MISS AMBER HAD GIVEN US WAS ON THE 14TH, AND IT STATED THAT WE DID NOT. IT DID NOT QUALIFY OR NEEDED ONE FOR THE. HERE IT IS THE IMPROVEMENTS. LET'S SEE IF I CAN PULL THAT UP. YEAH. SO THIS ONE HERE, THEY DID THE STUDY BACK ON THE 14TH OF FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR AS PART OF THE STUDY THAT WAS STATED HERE THAT A. THE DAISY LANE IMPROVEMENTS, BEEBE PARKWAY CITY COLLEGE DOWNING WHICH MEETS THE WARRANTS OF THE SIGNAL IN A POSSIBLE ROUNDABOUT. BUT THE SIGNAL LIGHTS DID NOT WARRANT AT EITHER LOCATION. AND SO WITH THAT, WE'RE STILL CONTINUOUSLY HAVING CAR ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN. I THINK ONE OF THE MOST SERIOUS ONE WAS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO. I ROLLED UP ON IT RIGHT AFTER IT HAPPENED. IT WAS A TRUCK THAT LITERALLY SLAMMED INTO ANOTHER ONE, AND THERE WAS JUST DEBRIS EVERYWHERE. AND I ACTUALLY SENT THE PHOTOS TO MAYOR MITCHELL AND MR. LANGLEY SAYING, WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. SO I IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP CHIEF BARNETT, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME RESIDENTS ASKING A TOTAL OF NUMBER OF HOW MANY ACCIDENTS ARE THAT'S BEEN AT THE INTERSECTION, AND ALSO SOME OF YOUR FEEDBACK OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE OFFICERS IN THAT AREA AS WELL, INCLUDING SPEED. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JEFF BARNETT CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS LOCATION. SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONDS TO APPROXIMATELY 2000, JUST A LITTLE OVER 2000 ACCIDENTS A YEAR IN THE CITY LIMITS OF KYLE. OUT OF THOSE 2000 PLUS ACCIDENTS, ABOUT A QUARTER OR SO, 500, 500, AND 50, 600 ON THE LAST FEW YEARS, AVERAGE OF THOSE ARE DEEMED SERIOUS ACCIDENTS, MEANING THEY HAVE SERIOUS BODILY INJURY OR SIGNIFICANT VEHICLE DAMAGE. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS VERY SPECIFIC LOCATION OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE HAD 21 TOTAL ACCIDENTS AT THIS INTERSECTION, WITH SIX OF THOSE OCCURRING IN 2024. AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, SIR, THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY HAD A REQUEST FROM THE COMMUNITY TO INCREASE OUR PRESENCE, AND THAT IS TO HELP SLOW DOWN SPEEDING MOTORISTS AND THEN TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO EMERGE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, OR PERHAPS ENTER THE COMMUNITY TO FOLLOW THE TRAFFIC LAWS, USE THEIR TURN SIGNALS, NOT FAIL TO YIELD RIGHT OF WAY AS THEY'RE PULLING IN OR PULLING INTO OR OUT OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WE'VE WRITTEN A TOTAL OF 47 CITATIONS, 19 OF THOSE BEING IN 2024 AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMUNITY. THE TWO, MAYBE THREE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO OUR OFFICERS. NUMBER ONE, THERE'S A SPEEDING ISSUE. NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE THERE ARE TWO ISSUES, ONE TURNING INTO AND THE OTHER TURNING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,

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AND IF THERE ARE MEMBERS TURNING INTO THE COMMUNITY, THEY'RE KIND OF BLOCKING THE VIEW OF THOSE MEMBERS AS THEY PULL OUT, AND THEY'RE USUALLY GETTING HIT BY ANOTHER PASSING CAR. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SEE BEYOND THE VEHICLES IN THE TURN LANE. THE OTHER ONES HAVE REAR ENDED OTHER CARS WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO TURN INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK OUR OFFICERS ARE THERE. THEY'RE THERE WEEKLY NOW TO TRY TO HAVE AN OFFICER PRESENCE UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT MAYBE THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO. I HOPE THAT I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION ON SOME NUMBERS. YES, BECAUSE I SEE HERE THE TOTAL ACCIDENTS SO FAR THIS YEAR HAS BEEN SIX. LAST YEAR WAS THREE AND THE YEAR BEFORE WAS THREE. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE CITATIONS, THE TOTAL OF 47 IN THE AREA SO FAR THIS YEAR, SIX SO FAR, INCLUDING RIGHT HERE. YEAH. YEAR TO DATE ACCIDENTS ON DASEIN. DOWNEY. IT WAS FROM THE INFORMATION THAT THE INFORMATION YOU SENT TO ME TODAY I WAS LOOKING AT IT. YEAH. I THINK IS THAT SIX. IS THAT THE YELLOW CHART WITH YEAR IN ACCIDENTS. I THINK IT SAYS HERE IT SAYS YEAR 2020 WAS TWO. YES SIR. 21 WAS SEVEN. CORRECT. AND THEN 22 AND 23 WAS THREE EACH AND THEN TWO SO FAR HERE. 2024 IS SIX, 2024 HAD SIX, SIX ACCIDENTS IN 2024.

YES. 2024. I'M SORRY. YES, SIR. THAT'S 24 I'M SORRY 2024. WE HAD A TOTAL OF SIX. SO A LOT SOME PEOPLE WERE ASKING LIKE HOW MANY WE'VE HAD SO FAR THIS YEAR. BUT STILL IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. AND A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE EVEN. I'VE DRIVEN IT AND MY WIFE. AND WHEN YOU'RE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GO TO SCHOOL TO GO TO SCIENCE HALL, THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS WE HAVE WALKERS, WE HAVE KIDS THAT WALK THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY ON DOWNING. THERE'S ALSO A MAJOR SPEED FACTOR ISSUE THAT WE HAVE ON THERE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT HERE LATER ON, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO HOW WE COULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE. I KNOW I THINK THERE WAS A ROUNDABOUT THAT COULD BE THAT WAS A POSSIBILITY FOR THAT AREA OR WAS LOOKED AT. NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK WITH FOUR LANES. SO THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE COMING UP WITH. AND THEY'RE GETTING VERY, VERY CONCERNED AS THEY DRIVE IN AND OUT OF THE TRAFFIC. AND I BROUGHT THIS UP TO COUNCILMAN RESA BEFORE HE'S DRIVEN OUT THERE BEFORE, BEFORE WE HAD THE LIGHTS. WE DID MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT LAST YEAR BY ADDING A STREET LIGHT TO THE CORNER, WHICH I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR, AMBER AND BRIAN FOR HELPING ON THAT. IT HAS LIT UP THE INTERSECTION TO WHERE YOU COULD BE ABLE TO TURN INTO DOWNING, BUT I I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME DIRECTION ON HOW WE CAN REALLY IMPROVE SAFETY ON THAT. COUNCILMAN RIZZO YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK. YEAH, DEFINITELY. YOU KNOW, MIKE BRINGS UP A REALLY GOOD POINT ON THIS. IT'S GETTING REALLY DANGEROUS UP THE STREET LIGHT. WHEN WE WENT OVER TO MIKE'S HOUSE ONE DAY, MY WIFE AND I TO GO DROP SOME OFF. WE THE FIRST THING PAUL SAID, BOY, THIS INTERSECTION IS REALLY DARK. SO THE IMPROVEMENTS REALLY HELPED WITH THE LIGHT. BUT WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC FLOW HERE, WE'RE HAVING THIS ISSUE ALL OVER THE CITY AND SOME OF IT PLACE SPEED. I THINK EVEN DROPPING THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 45 TO 35 WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO SPEED NO MATTER WHAT. AND WE CAN'T HAVE OFFICERS 24 SEVEN THERE. SO I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THE BIGGEST SOLUTION HERE WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO DAISY AND SETON PARKWAY. AND THE IMPROVEMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A LIGHT THERE. AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT AS SETON OPENS UP AND WE DO THE REST OF THE BYPASS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. HAVING A LIGHT HERE WOULD ALSO STOP PEOPLE AND GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS DOWN AT KENSINGTON TRAIL. BUT EVEN ACROSS THE STREET, OVER AT, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, FOUNTAIN GROVE, WHERE YOU'VE GOT THAT SMALL MOBILE HOME PARK THERE MAKING SURE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO GET OUT AS WELL. SO HAVING THAT INTERMITTENT STOP AND GO DEFINITELY WILL HELP. AND THE REASON I KNOW THAT IS WHEN I'M ON CONGRESS, ANYTIME I'M TRYING TO PULL OUT OF ONE OF THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, DRIVEWAYS. I KNOW THAT I'M WAITING FOR THE LIGHT DOWN THE STREET TO CHANGE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE ME THAT BREAK IN BETWEEN. SO I'M THINKING THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO HERE. IT'D BE SOMETHING PRELIMINARY, BECAUSE ONCE WE DO BUILD OUT THE CROSSING, THAT SETON PARKWAY IS GOING TO BE A THOROUGHFARE. I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE HITTING THAT LIKE CRAZY. THE OTHER THING IT DOES IS FOR THE SENIORS ZONE RIGHT THERE, THE NEW BUILDING, IT WILL SLOW PEOPLE DOWN COMING BACK AND FORTH. SO NOW THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN AND OUT.

SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A WIN IF WE DID A LIGHT THERE FOR THE ENTIRE DAISY LANE AREA. AND THAT'S JUST MY SUGGESTION. COUNCILMAN HARRIS, I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS THE SENIOR ZONE AREA.

THAT'S GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY ADD TO TRAFFIC AND SIGNIFICANTLY ADD TO THE RISK OF ACCIDENTS

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BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT PIECE AND LOOK AT HOW THAT WOULD WORK WITH A POTENTIAL TRAFFIC LIGHT AT DOWNEY, AS WELL AS A LEFT TURN LANE, A DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED IN EITHER AN ACCELERATION OR DECELERATION LANE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE ACCIDENTS THERE, LOOKING AT ALL THAT TOGETHER AND THEN BRINGING IT BACK, A COMPLETE SOLUTION TO IT WOULD BE WHAT WE'D RECOMMEND. I'VE ALSO SEEN SOME GOOD ON ANOTHER PART OF DAISY THAT WE WORKED UP, LOOKED AT BY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. THERE WAS A SCHOOL CROSSING THERE THAT HAD BEEN DIFFICULT FOR SOME OF THE KIDS TO GET ACROSS FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER. OVER AT CHAPEL MIDDLE SCHOOL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS INSTALL SOME LIGHTING, BETTER LIGHTING AT THAT LOCATION FOR THE PEDESTRIANS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD, I'M FORGETTING THE NAME OF THE SIGNS, BUT AS YOU AS YOU DRIVE UP TO THE SIGNS, THE SPEED WILL FLASH AT YOU AND DETERMINE IF YOU'RE OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. IT'LL COME IN RED AND THAT HAS A REALLY GOOD IMPACT ON DRIVER BEHAVIOR. SOMETIMES WE SEE THAT IN COMBINATION WITH ALL THESE OTHER FACTORS, WE THINK IT CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER SOLUTION THERE TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE SAFETY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THAT. UNFORTUNATELY I JUST DON'T HAVE ALL OF THAT READY TO PRESENT THIS EVENING. BUT THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS FOR US TO GO AND PREPARE THAT INFORMATION. WE'LL BE GLAD TO COME BACK AND GIVE YOU A RECOMMENDATION OF HOW TO PROCEED. YEAH, I WOULD, THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.

AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE REQUESTED TWICE, TWICE THE SPEED TRAILERS AND IN MY IN MY OPINION, IT KIND OF HELPED A LITTLE. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE FELT LIKE, WELL, ALL IT DOES IS IT JUST GIVES THE SPEED. BUT I THINK EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING ON DAISY, IF WE IF WE LOOK AT NOT JUST IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT LOOK AT IT AS A BUDGET ITEM FOR SOME OTHER NEIGHBOR, ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THAT WE LOOK AT MODERNIZING OUR OUR SPEED SIGNS IN NEIGHBORHOODS TO WHERE WE COULD GET THOSE TO WHERE WHEN THE CARS WHEN THE CARS ARE DRIVING DOWN, IT FLASHES THE RED. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING WAY TOO FAST. MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE DETERRENT THERE THAT YOU NEED TO SLOW DOWN IN THAT AREA. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD PUT ON DOWNEY. THAT ALSO COULD BE SOMETHING WE PUT ON DAISY. WE COULD PUT ALSO ON STAGECOACH EVENTUALLY IN AMBERWOOD IN OTHER PLACES, SCOTT STREET OR SCOTT STREET. OH MY GOD, YES, SCOTT STREET. BUT I MEAN, IF ANYTHING, RIGHT NOW I JUST FEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO. I'M HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT I HAVE A FEAR AND I DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A FATALITY THERE, BECAUSE THAT LAST ACCIDENT THAT I SENT YOU ALL THE PHOTOS, IT WAS VERY, VERY BAD. VERY BAD.

THE CAR WAS THE TRUCK WAS SPLIT IN HALF. I THINK THERE'S SOMEBODY MAY HAVE GOTTEN THROWN OUT OF THE CAR. IT WAS. IT WAS IN. IT'S RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE PEOPLE ARE PULLING INTO THEIR HOMES AND YOU GOT KIDS WALKING HOME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YES. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION, PLEASE, ON AGENDA EIGHT AND 18, TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CITY MANAGERS, TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, AND TO COME BACK WITH A FINAL ANALYSIS ON THEIR FINDINGS. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER TOBIA, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ON DAISY. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP COUNCIL. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

[17) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding street renaming for South Goforth Road.]

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MELISSA MCCOLLUM CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BRINGING BACK TO YOU KIND OF SOME FIRST SNAPSHOT OF THE RENAMING OF SOUTH GOFORTH ROAD. IF YOU REMEMBER, STAFF IDENTIFIED THIS ROAD REALLY BEING A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR ROAD RENAMING. ORIGINALLY IT WAS PLANNED TO CONNECT UP WITH GOFORTH. IT NO LONGER IS. SO THIS PORTION OF SOUTH GOFORTH THAT IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED BY THE INDUSTRIAL PARK BUT IS PLANNING TO EXTEND REALLY DOES NEED TO BE RENAMED AT YOUR SUGGESTION. WE RAN A CONTEST FROM FEBRUARY 10TH TO THE 24TH, AND WE PROVIDED ALL THOSE A LIST OF NAMES AND EXHIBIT. SEE, THIS WAS KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF THE CONTEST RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE HAD FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF LIMITING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CRAZY WORDS OR DEFINITELY PROFANE OR DEROGATORY WORDS. AND ALSO IN OUR ORDINANCES, WE DO HAVE SUPPORT CURRENTLY IN OUR ROAD RENAMING ORDINANCES FOR NAMES THAT REFLECT HISTORIC, ETHNIC AND CULTURAL DIVERSITY. SO WE PUT THAT INTO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AS KIND OF AN ADDED GUIDELINE. AND THEN AGAIN, ALL ROAD RENAMING WILL HAVE TO BE APPROVED THROUGH AN ORDINANCE. SO THIS IS NOT THE END OF IT TODAY. IT WILL STILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR AN ORDINANCE AGAIN WITH A PUBLIC HEARING. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE ROAD RENAMING POLICY THAT WE HAVE IN CHAPTER 38. AND THEN FOR NAMING WHEN USING NAMING CRITERIA. THIS IS ALSO FROM OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. THE MORE PROMINENT A PUBLIC PLACE OR SIGNIFICANT THE NAMING SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO THE PARTICULAR AREA STRAIGHT FROM OUR CODE. AND THEN LOOKING AT CULTURAL DIVERSITY. AND THEN IF YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING SPECIFIC, THIS ALSO RELATES TO FACILITIES. IF YOU'RE RENAMING, RENAMING OR NAMING FACILITIES. BUT YOU KNOW, DOES IT HAVE A CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS TO COME, A POSITIVE IMAGE AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH WITH HAVING NAMES? SO FOR THE SUBMITTALS, WE GOT A LOT OF SUBMITTALS IN THE CONTEST. I WOULD SAY WE HAD ABOUT 300 SEMINOLES. THERE WAS SOME DUPLICATES IN THAT. SO I THINK THERE WAS LIKE 208 UNIQUE NAMES, EVERYTHING FROM A FLORA AND FAUNA TO HISTORIC NAMES FOR KYLE AND HISTORIC PEOPLE IN TEXAS.

AND WE EVEN HAD PEOPLE RECOMMENDING NAMES OF THEIR FAVORITE PET, YOU KNOW? SO THERE WAS A LOT OF ENTRIES INTO THAT. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF VARIETY TO DO. SO IN EXHIBIT C, WE'VE ALSO KIND OF CATEGORIZED THEM AS NAMES THAT HAVE NOT PREVIOUSLY BEEN USED OR DUPLICATED. AND SO OUR GIS AND 911 ADDRESSING REALLY LOOKED AT THE LIST OF SUBMITTED NAMES. THE NAMES LIKE PORTER IS A GREAT NAME AND VERY HISTORIC AND APPLIES TO TEXAS, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT STREET NAME, SO IT'S NOT REALLY APPLICABLE TO HAVE ANOTHER STREET WITH THAT SAME NAME ASSOCIATED WITH IT. BLUEBONNET, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS A FLOWER THAT PEOPLE REALLY IDENTIFY WITH AND WAS RECOMMENDED SEVERAL TIMES. BUT THERE WAS SOME CONFLICTS WITH THAT RIGHT OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS IN ETJ. SO THERE'S TWO BLUEBONNETS PRETTY CLOSE ALREADY IN THE IN THE COUNTY, AS IS SO REALLY GREEN, OUR NAMES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY USED OR DUPLICATED, AND THEY DON'T CREATE A KNOWN CONFLICT WITHIN THE CITY. AND OUR 911 ADDRESSING AND I KIND OF ABSTRACT THOSE NAMES OF 45 OF THEM OUT OF THE GREEN, 82 THAT KIND OF MEET THE CONTEST RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR NAMES THAT APPLY TO TEXAS, AS WELL AS KIND OF HAVE SOME FLORA, FAUNA, YELLOW OR NAMES THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER JUST KIND OF ADDITIONAL THOUGHT SHOULD GO FOR THOSE. AND HONESTLY, THE RED NAMES REALLY ARE DUPLICATIVE OR OVERUSED OR SOMEWHERE ELSE ALREADY. SO LOTS OF FLORA AND FAUNA WERE INCLUDED IN THE AND THE ROAD RENAMING FOR NATURAL ELEMENTS. HISTORICAL ENTRIES. THERE WAS QUITE A FEW. SO EVERYTHING FROM RELATED DIRECTLY TO KYLE RELATED TO THE AREA, INCLUDING KIND OF A SAN MARCOS AND HAYS COUNTY AREA, AND THEN RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO OUR OUR TOWN AND THEN EVEN SOME TEXAS RELATIONS. SO THERE'S QUITE OF OPPORTUNITY. IT WAS KIND OF FUN TO READ PEOPLE'S SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT THESE NAMES WOULD BE, AND REALLY WHY IT MADE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM. SO PEOPLE WERE VERY FORTHCOMING TO US WITH WHAT THEY WERE HOPING.

SO THERE WAS MULTIPLE ENTRIES IN DUPLICATE. THERE WAS A LOT OF PIE REFERENCES, YOU KNOW, FOR

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THERE'S LOTS OF PLAY ON NAMES ER FORTH, FORWARD, GONE BACK. AND THEN AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ME DIRECTION ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE ON, ON THE ROAD RENAMING. ALL RIGHT BRIAN. WELL IT'S A LOT OF NAMES THAT THAT WERE GIVEN TO US IN THIS PROCESS. AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS KIND OF NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS. IT COULD BE COUNCIL DECIDES HERE'S 3 OR 4 NAMES THAT WE WANT TO GO BACK AND ASK THE CITIZENS TO VOTE ON. AND THEN THERE'S A DISTINCT WINNER OR, YOU KNOW, OF THAT PROCESS. WE COULD GO BACK AND ASK. CERTAINLY COUNCIL COULD JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY NAME THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE. WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A DIRECTION ON THE PROCESS AND IT COULD BE VERY SIMPLE OR MORE COMPLEX DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANTED. AND PERHAPS THERE WAS A NAME THAT YOU GUYS WERE THINKING OF THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED IN THIS PROCESS THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING UP. THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION THAT COULD COME UP IN THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. SO THAT'S REALLY THE INTENT OF THE DISCUSSION IS TO BRING THIS BACK TO YOU, JUST SHOW YOU WHAT THE RESULTS WERE, AND THEN TRY TO SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GO FROM HERE. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE I BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PRESENT OUR NAMES THAT WE, THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER AS WELL, YOU KNOW, TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN THAT WAY. SO I THINK IT'D BE GOOD IF ANYBODY HAS NAMES TO GO THROUGH. I'VE GOT SIX THAT I HAVE COME UP WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, THROW OUT THERE AND ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS NAMES. AND THEN FROM THERE WE SEE KIND OF WHERE, WHERE THE FEELING IS, IT COULD BE THE NAME YOU BRING UP, OR IT COULD ALSO BE A NAME THAT YOU IDENTIFIED OUT OF THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION AND SEE WHAT THE CONSENSUS IS. SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I DEFINITELY HAVE A NAME. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHEN I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE LIST, THE FIRST NAME THAT REALLY. STOOD OUT TO ME WAS ALVAREZ AVENUE, AND IT'S AFTER PAULA ALVAREZ, WHO'S THE FIRST HISPANIC WOMAN ELECTED TO CITY COUNCIL. PAUL IS NOT DOING SO WELL. SHE'S UP IN AGE AND HAS A LOT OF HEALTH ISSUES, BUT NOT TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE WHO WAS, YOU KNOW, BROKE BARRIERS THAT OPENED THE DOOR FOR OTHER WOMEN AND FOR OTHER HISPANIC WOMEN, FOR HISPANICS IN GENERAL, IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT. LOOK, HONESTLY, I THINK WE OWE IT TO HER. I MEAN, SHE BROKE BARRIERS. I MEAN, DURING A TIME WHERE THERE WAS JUST MEN BEING ELECTED TO COUNCIL. SHE ACTUALLY WAS A HISPANIC WOMAN THAT TOOK THE INITIATIVE AND CAME OUT AND SERVED HER COMMUNITY. AND I KIND OF THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT NAMES. I MEAN, I LOOKED A LOT OF THESE NAMES. I THINK ABOUT MR. CHAPA BEING A SCHOOL NAMED AFTER HIM FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS HE DID FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS GREAT, AND I SEE A LOT OF THE NAMES. THE OBVIOUS NAME FOR CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL. AND I THINK NOT TO RECOGNIZE MISS ALVAREZ, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WHEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF HISPANICS BEING RECOGNIZED IN A LOT OF WHAT WE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE'VE HAD IN OUR CITY, I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FINALLY RECOGNIZE A WOMAN THAT REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY. YEAH, I THINK WE'VE ALL GOT A LIST THAT WE WE'VE GOT IN THE BACK OF OUR MIND. AND COINCIDENTALLY, HER NAME WAS AT THE VERY TOP OF MINE AS WELL.

HER FAMILY'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. SHE HAD TO MOVE HER HOME TO MAKE WAY FOR I-35.

THAT'S HOW LONG THAT SHE'S BEEN THERE. SO SHE IS ALSO STILL A CURRENT RESIDENT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY NICE THING TO DO. MOST OF THE TIME, PEOPLE GET THINGS NAMED AFTER THEM AFTER THEY DIE. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT BEFORE THAT AND TO RECOGNIZE HER FOR HER CONTRIBUTION. ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS? COMMENTS. WELL, I HAD SIX, SO I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD I WOULD GO THROUGH THEM. MISS ALVAREZ WAS NOT ON THE LIST, ALTHOUGH THAT'S A GREAT RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. SO NUMBER ONE WAS CHIVO PASTRANO SENIOR. CHIVO SERVED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER FROM 1986 TO 2001. THAT PUTS HIM IN THE RUNNING FOR THE LONGEST SERVING COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF KYLE. NUMBER TWO WOULD BE BECKY SILVERA. BECKY SERVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL FROM 2002 TO 2017. OVER THE. BASICALLY, SINCE THE CITY OF KYLE BECAME A HOME RULE CITY AND HAD A CHARTER, SHE SERVED UNDER MAYOR ATKINS. SHE SERVED OR NOT UNDER, BUT ALONGSIDE FIVE DIFFERENT MAYORS FROM MAYOR ATKINS, ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE

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ANOTHER ONE THAT I THOUGHT OF WAS ANN STROM. SO ANN STROM WROTE THIS BOOK, THE PRAIRIE CITY HISTORY OF KYLE, TEXAS. IF YOU READ LIKE OTHER BOOKS, LIKE HERE'S KYLE TOUGH. THIS IS THE STORY OF EDWIN KYLE. AND BUT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE FOUNDING OF THE CITY OF KYLE. IT TAKES FROM ITS NOTES LIBERALLY FROM ANN STROM'S WORK. THE ADDITIONAL THE TRACES OF TEXAS BOOK THAT WAS WRITTEN HERE NOT TOO LONG AGO ALSO DRAWS FROM THE WORK THAT ANN STROM DID. SHE WAS INVOLVED HEAVILY IN THE CITY OF KYLE IN THE 80S AND IN THE 70S. SHE WORKED ON THE BICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION IN 1976, WHICH WAS PROBABLY THE MOST WELL PLANNED MAJOR EVENT THAT THE CITY OF KYLE HAS EVER HAD. THE PRESIDENT OF TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY CAME AND GAVE A COMMENCEMENT AT THAT ADDRESS. AND AGAIN, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT SHE PUT IN TO CREATE AND COMPILE THIS HISTORY, I THOUGHT WAS IMPRESSIVE. AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, ANN HAS NEVER BEEN HONORED WITH ANY KIND OF NAMING.

THERE'S JUST NO ONE I KNOW OF WHO'S DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I ALSO THOUGHT OF THE TOBIAS NAME AS WELL. THE TOBIAS NAME DOES HAVE ITS ROOTS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE THAN THAT. IT'S A FAMILY LEGACY THAT GOES BEYOND JUST SCHOOL DISTRICTS INTO PUBLIC SERVICE FOR MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL. AND THEN FINALLY, A NAME THAT'S NOT THAT'S CAME UP NUMBER TWO WHEN WE DROPPED FAJITA DRIVE AND IT WENT WITH VETERANS. NUMBER TWO WAS MARTIN LUTHER KING. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AT THE TIME THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION FROM THERE WAS A PANEL OF 16 DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WERE HERE. AND THE DISCUSSION WAS THAT WHENEVER THE NEXT STREET NAMING CAME AROUND, THAT MARTIN LUTHER KING, BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY CLOSE SECOND, WOULD BE A STREET NAME THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER NAMING. EVERY TOWN HAS ONE. WE DO NOT. SO THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE SIX NAMES THAT I HAD. I THINK SOME OF THOSE ARE IN IN THIS LIST, OR AT LEAST RECOMMENDED ON SOME LEVEL IN THIS LIST. AND I WANT TO AT LEAST GET SOME FEEDBACK ON THOSE NAMES AS WELL. COUNCILOR TOBIAS WELL, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR MITCHELL, FOR RECOGNIZING THE TOBIAS FAMILY RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

IRONICALLY, IF YOU LOOK BACK IN OUR HISTORY, THAT IS THE FARMING LAND. THAT AREA IS WHERE MY FAMILY USED TO FARM RIGHT THERE. IT LED ALL THE WAY UP TO TOBIAS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO THAT THAT IS THE STRETCH OF COTTON FIELDS, CORN FIELDS THAT GRANDPA AND ALL THEM USED TO WORK BACK IN THAT AREA AS WELL. BUT I ALSO RECOMMEND MISS ALVAREZ AS WELL, BECAUSE SHE IS SOMEBODY WHO WAS OUR FIRST MAYOR, AND I'VE KNOWN HER AS WELL. THOSE ARE GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS, MR. RIZZO, AS WELL. YOU'RE RECOGNIZING SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, THE LONGEST SERVING, AND ONE OTHER PERSON THAT I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND, WHO WAS ALSO A FARMER BACK THEN, OR SOMEBODY WHO WAS ALSO A TEACHER FROM THE HAYS SCHOOL DISTRICT MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, WAS MR. DON BROOKS. PEOPLE MAY NOT REMEMBER WHO HE WAS, BUT HE WAS A VERY GENTLE SOUL, AND HE WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS OUR BUS DRIVER, BUT OUR HISTORY TEACHER. BUT HE DID HAVE A LEGACY HERE IN OUR CITY. AND HE HIS NAME ALWAYS COMES UP TO MIND, ALONG WITH, OF COURSE, THE CARAWAY FAMILY AND SO FORTH. BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO THAT I WOULD SUGGEST. WELL, I HEARD THREE PAULA ALVAREZ'S. SO WHAT DO Y'ALL WANT TO DO FROM HERE? LOOK, I, I THINK ALL OF Y'ALL HAD REALLY GOOD SUGGESTIONS, REALLY GOOD NAMES. I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO HONOR SOMEONE THAT, YOU KNOW, BROKE BARRIERS AND DID A LOT FOR WOMEN. AND I THINK THAT HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE HER PASSING OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IT'S LONG FROM NOW. BUT I KNOW HER HEALTH IS REALLY DECLINED. BUT TO DO SOMETHING TO HONOR HER AND FOR HER CONTRIBUTION, I THINK WOULD BE

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I'M HERE TO. THAT'D BE FINE. I'M TOTALLY FINE TO LET THE COMMUNITY JUST TO SAY THAT WE SOME OF THOSE NAMES ARE ALREADY ON THE LIST OF, OF THEIR. SO TO JUST NARROW DOWN THE TOP TEN OR WHATEVER. AND THEN JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO AGAIN HAVE THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAVE A SAY IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE A SAY IN IT. AND I KIND OF THINK THE LIST WAS THE SAME, YOU KNOW.

SO IT WAS A IT WAS A BIG LIST. WE LOOK AT THE GREEN WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED. NO CONFLICTS, NO GREEN. YOU HAVE THE YELLOW AND YOU HAD YOUR RED. SO AND THE ONLY REASON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MORE WE DRAG THIS ON THE LONGER IT'S GOING TO TAKE. AND WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE PEOPLE CALLING US. LOOK, THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS, I HAD LIKE TEN RESIDENTS CALL ME WHY IT SHOULD BE NAMED AFTER THEM. AND DO WE WANT TO GO DOWN THAT, THAT PATH? I MEAN, IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. I'M GOOD WITH EITHER OR. I'D LOVE TO HONOR SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS TO BE HONORED, BUT IF WE WANT TO GO A DIFFERENT PATH, I'LL BE OKAY WITH THAT TOO. WELL, ONE THING WE COULD DO IS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS JUST COMING UP WITH WHATEVER NAME THEY CAN THINK OF. BUT IF WE NARROW IT DOWN TO A LIST OF THE NAMES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, THEN WE COULD PUT LITTLE BIOS BESIDE EACH ONE. AND THEN IT'S A VOTE. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE VOTE, BUT THEN DO YOU WANT TO BE BOUND BY THE VOTE? AND THEN IS IT A SITUATION WHERE EVERYBODY'S RECRUITING FOR VOTES? SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO THIS PLAYS OUT THE MORE YOU'RE OPENING YOURSELF TO PEOPLE COMING OUT AND BEING HURT. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED. THE LAST TIME WE NAMED A ROAD, THERE WAS PEOPLE THAT WERE HURT. THERE'S FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME THAT FELT LIKE THE ROAD SHOULD BE NAMED AFTER THEIR FAMILY. RIGHT. I GOT THOSE PHONE CALLS AS WELL. I MUST HAVE GOTTEN ABOUT 20 PHONE CALLS AT THE TIME. LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE NAMING OF VETERANS DRIVE. SO THE LONGER WE KEEP THIS OPEN, THE LONGER WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE PEOPLE CALLING US. AND EVERYBODY HAS A LEGITIMATE REASON TO CALL US. RIGHT? BUT IT'S UP TO YOU ALL. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT, WE'LL GO THROUGH IT. BUT IT IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE CALLING YOU, TRYING TO PERSUADE YOU WHY IT SHOULD BE AFTER THEIR FAMILY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST. COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH, I'M KIND OF LEANING ON WHAT WHAT MR. HEIZER SAID. I DON'T RUN A I DON'T WANT TO RUSH THROUGH THIS. I KNOW WE'VE SEEN THE LIST, BUT THIS WAS A COMMUNITY LIST, RIGHT? SO PEOPLE GAVE US THEIR TIME, THEIR OPINION. I KNOW THEY MAY NOT BE.

THEY MIGHT NOT ALL BE HISTORICAL, BUT THERE WAS A REASON WHY THEY PICKED SOME OF THESE. SOME OF THESE WERE GOT PICKED MORE THAN ONCE. SO I WANT TO PROBABLY, AS THE MAYOR SAID, THINK ABOUT A FEW 5 OR 10 AND COME BACK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WRITE A FEW BIOS FOR SOME OF THE HISTORICAL ONES. I THINK THAT THEY'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY, THEY ALL MAKE SENSE TO ME. I WISH WE COULD NAME THEM ALL, BUT SOME SOME FOLKS MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS THAT WE HAVE TO HONOR. YOU KNOW, A TRAIL BREAKER OR A TRAILBLAZER. YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, RIGHT? MY TRAILBLAZER. MY BIKE MIGHT BE A SCIENTIST. MIGHT MIGHT BE SOMEONE IN A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT OF THE TIME.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE STREETS THAT EVERY OTHER CITY HAS THAT HONORS THE SAME PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, OVER AND OVER, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE DIFFERENT.

WE CAN BE UNIQUE. BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO RUSH THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M

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BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIVING FOLKS THAT LIKE YOU SAY, THERE COULD BE SOME FEELINGS TOWARDS HOW MANY VOTES THEY GET AND IT BECOMES A POPULARITY CONTEST. YEP. IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS ONCE WE GET THAT LIST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CERTAIN PEOPLE CALLING PEOPLE TO GO AND VOTE FOR THIS PERSON, VOTE FOR THIS PERSON, VOTE FOR THIS PERSON.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT HONEST FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT. SHOULD THIS REALLY BE WHO THE ROADS BEEN NAMED AFTER? I MEAN, LOOK, I'VE SEEN IT. I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT PLAYED OUT WHERE I MEAN, YOU HAVE FAMILIES CALLING ALL THEIR COUSINS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, HEY, GO VOTE FOR THIS, GO VOTE FOR THIS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO END UP HAPPENING. BUT IF Y'ALL ARE GOOD WITH THAT, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE MISSING OUT ON A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR SOMEONE WHO WAS A TRAILBLAZER. BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I'M GOOD WITH THAT, TOO. I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE PASSING UP ON THE OPPORTUNITY. WELL, THAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? YOU'RE WE ALL WE GET CALLS ABOUT ITEMS ALL THE TIME. SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY WE WOULD RUSH THIS. I MEAN, TO, TO GO OUT AND DO THIS THIS CONTEST I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED WITH THE PUBLIC TO THEN TAKE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC AND TO JUST CAST IT ASIDE AND ADD IN A BUT YOU ADDED IN A NAME FROM THE DAIS, AND NOW YOU WANT US TO VOTE ON THAT NAME. AND, WELL, A COUPLE OF US DO. WELL, OKAY. THAT'S FINE. WHETHER IT'S 1 OR 5 OF US, WE STILL ASKED THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. SO, LIKE, LET'S JUST COME BACK AT ONE MORE MEETING AND WHETHER OR NOT WE STILL GO WITH THE NAMES THAT WERE SUGGESTED UP FROM UP HERE, THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN AT THE NEXT MEETING, I JUST. COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, IN ALL FAIRNESS, ALVAREZ WAS ON THE LIST. I FEEL LIKE THE SHORT LIST WITH SOME BIOS AND GETTING SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO. I MEAN, I COULD GO FOR ALVAREZ AND HAVE A CLEAR CONSCIENCE FROM THIS MOMENT ON, BUT I CAN'T I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH GETTING INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS. DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS, ONES THAT I SUGGESTED? I HAD TWO OF YOURS ON MY LIST. TO WHICH TWO? SENIOR AND BECKY. I THINK THEY CERTAINLY MERIT CONSIDERATION. AND IT WAS BECKY'S DISTRICT TOO, I MEAN, SO SHE LITERALLY REPRESENTED EAST AND SOUTHEAST. KYLE WOULD GO FOURTH IS GOING THROUGH. SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE HONORING TO HER TO AT LEAST HAVE HER BE CONSIDERED AS WELL AS MR. PASTRANO. I MEAN, HE YOU KNOW, I'VE GONE THROUGH AND READ THROUGH A LOT OF THE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, HE'S A GREAT COUNCILMEMBER. HE SERVED FOR 15 PLUS YEARS. IT'S A LONG, LONG TIME TO SIT ON A DAIS AND DEAL WITH THE CITY ISSUES. SO. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD ONE TOO. YEAH. AND I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT THE MLK DISCUSSION. IT REALLY WAS NUMBER TWO BY A CLOSE VOTE WHEN THE PANEL OF 16 MET. AND THERE WERE WHEN THE CONCESSION WAS MADE THAT IT WOULD GO VETERANS. THERE WAS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEXT MAJOR ROAD WOULD BE MLK. SO I'M JUST WANTING TO HONOR THAT GROUP AND THE WORK THAT THEY DID. THEY MET FOR THEY MET FOUR OR 5 OR 6 TIMES IN ORDER TO NARROW DOWN, YOU KNOW, AND DETERMINE WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THAT ROAD. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT THAT IT'S NOT HISTORIC TO THE CITY OF KYLE, BUT IT DOES REPRESENT IT IS A STREET THAT GETS NAMED MANY TIMES IN, YOU KNOW, IN MANY CITIES. BUT I THINK IF YOU PUT MLK ON THERE NEXT TO HISTORIC NAMES THAT MAYBE AREN'T QUITE SO WELL KNOWN THAT THAT MIGHT CHANGE IT, CHANGE THE, THE, THE CALCULUS THERE. SO I THINK YOU JUST MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW HUMAN NATURE IS THAT, THAT THAT ROAD WOULD PROBABLY GET THAT SUGGESTION WOULD PROBABLY GET A LOT OF VOTES. SO WHAT IF WE THE MOTION WAS TO TAKE THE TEN NAMES IN GREEN THAT RECEIVE MULTIPLE VOTES, AND THEN ADD TO THAT THE NAMES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED FROM THE DYESS AND THAT BE THE FINAL LIST. WELL, I THINK ALVAREZ DID NOT RECEIVE MULTIPLE VOTES, BUT THAT WAS NAMED FROM THE DICE.

OKAY. AND FAJITA GOT SEVERAL VOTES. I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THAT THERE WERE THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE THAT SERIOUS ABOUT NAMING IT. I, I FEEL LIKE WE WERE BEING TROLLED.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVEN FAJITAS IN THERE. YEAH. AND HOUSTON IS ALSO THE SAN MARCOS. SO IT'S

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SO BUT YES, IT DID RECEIVE A LOT OF VOTES, AND I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THE SIGNS TOO, SO THAT THAT SAVES YOU FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE SOMEWHERE. MAYBE CALL IT PORTER OAK ROAD, I DON'T KNOW. WE ALREADY HAVE A PORTER. OH, PORTER. PORTER. THAT WAS THE HAN RANCH. THAT'S NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH PORTER. IT WAS THE HAN RANCH THAT WAS THERE. PEOPLE GET IT RIGHT. KNOW YOUR HISTORY, PLEASE. IS THERE IS THERE OTHER THAN THE ALVAREZ? IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE GREEN SECTION THAT SOMEBODY WOULD WANT TO HAVE SENT BACK OUT TO THE TO THE PUBLIC? NO, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, MAYOR, THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER STREETS, THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER ROADS. AND I KNEW THIS WAS COMING. SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST KEEP MOVING ON. IF THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION IS ON THE TABLE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN GO WITH WHAT'S YOUR WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON IT? I MEAN, WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT DO YOU, DO YOU WANT TO SEND IT OUT TO THE VOTERS ON A SHORT LIST, OR WOULD YOU RATHER JUST GO WITH ALVAREZ OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT? WELL, THESE WERE THESE WERE THE NAMES THAT WERE SUBMITTED. I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST GET SOME IMPACT AND SOME FEEDBACK, BUT IF WE JUST HAVE THE TOP THREE, IF WE GO WITH THE TOP THREE, THEN GO FROM THERE AND THEN AND THEN SEE, SEE WHERE WE'RE AT FROM THE FROM THE RESIDENTS. AGAIN, TO AVOID THAT CONFUSION ABOUT THIS ROAD, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, WE'RE GOING TO BE RENAMING MORE STREETS IN THE FUTURE. YEAH. WELL, I'M I FOR ONE, I'M ALL ABOUT HISTORIC ROAD NAMES AND NAMING, NAMING ROADS AFTER HISTORIC FIGURES. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CELEBRATE OUR HISTORY. YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA, I DO LIKE THE NAVARRO ROAD. I KNOW THAT'S NOT MAYBE KYLE, BUT VERY FAMOUS TEJANO. SO, JUAN ANTONIO NAVARRO FOUND HIS SIGNED THE DECLARATION OF TEXAS INDEPENDENCE TO ONE OF THE ONLY TAINOS AND ONE OF THE EMPRESARIOS THAT LED AUSTIN TO TEXAS. SO HISTORICAL. YES. THE REASON WHY THAT ONE DIDN'T GET AN ASTERISK IS JUST BECAUSE IT WASN'T KYLE RELATED, LIKE ANN RICHARDS. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T ASK OR HER. AND YES, I HEAR YOU. ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO GO WITH NAVARRO TO SEND IT OUT ON THE OTHER THREE? WE'VE AT LEAST HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, RAISING THOSE ISSUES, RAISING THOSE NAMES. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO ISSUE A SURVEY SEEKING VOTES. ONE VOTE PER ADDRESS, NOT MULTIPLE VOTE. HOWEVER, THAT WORKS FOR THE NAMES PAULA ALVAREZ, CHIVO PASTRANO SENIOR, AND BECKY SILVEIRA AND HAVE IN THE IN THE SURVEY SEEKING FEEDBACK BIOS THAT REFERENCED THERE HIS HISTORIC ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF KYLE AND THEN ALLOW THAT TO COME BACK TO US. JUST THOSE THREE NAMES. CORRECT. THOSE THREE NAMES. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY THE MAYOR. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 1. MOTION TO ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.