Apr 16, 2026 City Council Special Meeting

ALL RIGHT.

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TODAY IS THURSDAY, APRIL 16TH.

THE TIME IS SIX OH THREE.

AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER.

UM, CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? FLORIS CO.

HERE.

TOBIAS ZA DOZA.

HERE.

MEDINA.

HERE.

ZAPATA.

HERE.

HARRIS.

HERE.

MCKINNEY HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ALL SEVEN HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

[II) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

CITIZENS COMMENTS.

CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS.

THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE ENCOURAGED TO SIGN IN BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.

SPEAKERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.

ALRIGHT, UH, FIRST I HAVE HOWARD CONNELL.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, I WANNA SPEAK A COUPLE MINUTES ON THIS, UH, ISSUE HAVING TO DO WITH, UH, OVERCROWDING OF STAFF AND LOOKING FOR A, UH, A FACILITY FOR 'EM.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING A LITTLE TIRED OF WATCHING THE CITY DRIVING INTO THE FUTURE WITH A ST.

CHRISTOPHER STATUE ON A DASHBOARD AND A RABBIT'S FOOT IN HER POCKET.

UM, HAVING SAID THAT, UH, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE ASKED ME, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, UH, $11 MILLION LANDFILL DOWN HERE.

AND I WAS ASKED IF I THOUGHT IT WAS NECESSARY, OR, OR IF IT WAS A WANT, AND, AND I SAID IT'S DEFINITELY NECESSARY.

THIS OFFICE SPACE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, SOLVE A PROBLEM WITH, THAT'S DEFINITELY NECESSARY.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT EVERYTHING, I'M WONDERING WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT IF WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT? THE FACT IS WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND SO I'M GONNA STICK WITH MY ORIGINAL PREMISE AND SAY THAT I'M SUGGESTING THAT IN SIX MONTHS WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP AGAIN AND THE SEATS ARE GONNA GET FILLED, ARE GONNA BE WHAT I CALL QUOTE UNQUOTE PERMANENT COMPARED TO WHAT THEY ARE NOW.

AND I THINK THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, THE CITY SHOULD USE IT TO DIG IN, DIG INTO THE CORE OF THE CITY, FIND OUT WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE, WHERE WE'RE AT FINANCIALLY, AND THEN AT THE END OF SIX MONTHS, WHOEVER GETS ELECTED, WE'LL HAVE ALL THE, ALL THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE IN FRONT OF THEM TO HAVE A PICTURE.

THEY WON'T HAVE TO GUESS, THEY WON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION HOPING IT'S GONNA WORK AND FINDING OUT IT WAS WRONG, LIKE PERHAPS TEARING DOWN ON THIS BUILDING OVER HERE, WHICH IS A GREAT BUILDING SITE.

SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE RESTRAINT RIGHT NOW AND DIG INTO THE GUTS OF THE CITY AND FIND OUT WHERE WE'RE AT.

IT SEEMS TO ME THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, SINCE WE'RE ASKING FOR THESE AUDITS AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE WERE THESE PEOPLE SIX MONTHS AGO? YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS DUMPED ON YOU AT ONE TIME AND WE'VE GOT TOO MANY NEEDS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND I THINK TO GO INTO A BLINDLY RIGHT NOW IS, UM, NOT A GOOD IDEA, UH, POLITICALLY OR MAYBE FINANCIALLY OR WHATEVER.

UM, THE FOUR CANDIDATES THAT THAT WON THEIR SEATS ALL CAMPAIGNED ON, UH, UH, INTELLIGENT DEVELOPMENT AND DECISIONS AND CUTTING COSTS AND, AND TIGHTENING THE BELT AND FIND OUT WHERE THE HECK WE'RE AT.

AND IT'S SCARY HEARING THINGS BEING THROWN AROUND UP HERE AND, AND GIVING THREE OPTIONS TO PICK FROM.

AND IF YOU ASK SOMEBODY A QUESTION, THEY HAVE NO ANSWER BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER.

'CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT INFORMATION THEY'RE DEALING WITH.

THEY'RE IN THE DARK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UP NEXT I HAVE BETTY CONLEY.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, AND EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS BETTY CONLEY.

I'M A RESIDENT OF CAL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SAY THIS OR NOT, , SO I WOULD JUST SAY IT AND THEN YOU CAN SAY NO.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE HAS TO BE THE COUNCIL APPOINTS SOMEBODY IN PLACE OF THE CITY MANAGER, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A SUGGESTION OF WHO I THOUGHT WOULD BE A GOOD APPOINTEE.

SO STOP ME NOW IF I CAN'T SAY THAT.

BUT I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT, AND IT'S NOT AGAINST ANYBODY, WHOEVER YOU'RE THINKING, BUT MR. PEREZ WOULD BE PERFECT.

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HE KNOWS THE CITY, HE KNOWS THE FINANCES, AND YOU HAVE BUDGET COMING UP.

AND I WAS ALWAYS TAUGHT BEFORE YOU CROSS THE BRIDGE, YOU MAKE SURE IT'S STURDY AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT BRACES.

YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT BRIDGE HOLDS.

SO I THINK SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE SO LONG AND KNOWS THE CITY SO WELL, I THINK HE SHOULD BE APPOINTED.

AND THAT'S MY OWN OPINION THOUGH.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UP NEXT I HAVE CINDY BOLDING.

GOOD EVENING.

THE BOOK, THE CHILDREN'S BOOK, ENTITLED THE GIVING TREE, IS A POIGNANT STORY ABOUT FRIENDSHIP AND HAVING A PURPOSE.

THE TREE AND THE BOY INTERACT THEIR WHOLE LIVES, AND THE STORY ENDS WITH THE OLD TREE, NOW ONLY A STUMP PROVIDING A PLACE FOR THE NOW TIRED OLD MAN TO SIT AND REST.

HAVING EACH OTHER MAKES THEM BOTH HAPPY.

THEY EACH STILL HAVE PURPOSE.

I MOVED TO KYLE TO BE NEAR MY CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.

I HAD RETIRED AND MY MOTHER, FATHER AND BROTHER HAD ALL PASSED AWAY.

MY FUTURE WAS CLEARLY IN TEXAS.

I WANTED TO FOSTER THAT SPECIAL BOND BETWEEN A GRANDMOTHER AND HER GRANDCHILDREN.

I NEEDED TO STILL HAVE PURPOSE.

I ARRIVED IN KYLE KNOWING NO ONE.

I FELT LIKE I HAD MOVED TO THE MOON.

I WAS DETERMINED TO BUILD A MEANINGFUL LIFE FOR MYSELF.

THANKFULLY, I WAS INVITED TO THE SENIOR CENTER, WHICH QUICKLY BECAME MY LIFELINE.

WITH THE BEGINNING OF NEW FRIENDSHIPS AND OPPORTUNITIES, I FOUND THAT MOVING TO KYLE TO BE YOUR GRANDCHILDREN IS AN OVERWHELMINGLY COMMON THEME.

THE SENIOR CENTER PROVIDES AN ANCHOR FOR ME AT THIS STAGE IN LIFE.

RETIRING AND MOVING IS CHALLENGING FOR MANY REASONS, AND ONE IS DEVELOPING A WHOLE NEW SET OF FRIENDS.

AT THE SENIOR A CENTER, I'M ABLE TO FELLOWSHIP WITH MY FRIENDS AND USE MY TALENTS AND ABILITIES TO SERVE OTHERS.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXERCISE, LEARNING AND EATING MEALS TOGETHER.

IT'S ABOUT THE FELLOWSHIP.

IT'S ABOUT SHARING OUR JOYS, OUR CHALLENGES, OUR SORROWS, AND OUR GRIEF.

IT'S ABOUT FINDING THAT SUPPORT GROUP, THAT SENSE OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY WE ALL CRAVE.

IT'S ABOUT VOLUNTEERING TOGETHER TO SUPPORT A MEANINGFUL VARIETY OF EVENTS THAT BOOST OUR MENTAL HEALTH.

AS BEING HOME ALONE CAN BE QUITE OVERWHELMING.

IT'S ABOUT STILL HAVING PURPOSE.

TEXAS CONTINUES TO BE A POPULAR PLACE FOR SENIORS TO RELOCATE, YET OFTEN FACING CHALLENGES, NAVIGATING BENEFITS AND SERVICES, AND LOOKING FOR NEW DOCTORS.

I'M THANKFUL TO SERVE ON THE BOARD ON AGING AS WE ATTEMPT TO IDENTIFY THE SENIOR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.

SENIOR CITIZENS STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES BY VOLUNTEERING, SHARING EXPERTISE, MENTORING, FOSTERING CULTURAL RICHNESS, AND ENHANCING COMMUNITY DIVERSITY.

WE SHOP, WE VOTE, WE DRIVE ECONOMIC STABILITY THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP, SENIOR LIVING SERVICES, AND STABLE TAX CONTRIBUTIONS.

DON CONLEY WORKS TIRELESSLY AS A VOLUNTEER WITH THE SENIOR CENTER TO PROVIDE PROGRAMMING THAT ADDRESSES OUR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL NEEDS.

AND IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY SUPPORTS HER EFFORTS.

I'M ASKING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE, PRIORITIZE, AND SHOW WITH YOUR ACTIONS THAT YOU VALUE THE SENIORS OF KYLE.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE PURPOSE TO THE VERY END OF OUR LIVES, SLIDING INTO HOME PLATE TIRED, EXHAUSTED, AND JOYFUL FROM A LIFE WELL LIVED.

PLEASE HELP US MEET THAT GOAL.

THANK YOU.

UP NEXT I HAVE SARAH KIN.

HELLO, COUNCIL.

UH, MY NAME IS SARAH KIN AND I SERVE ON YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE.

I SHARE COUNCIL'S GOAL OF WANTING TO ENSURE THAT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FUNCTION WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND WITH MUTUAL RESPECT.

I THINK THAT'S A, A VERY REASONABLE EXPECTATION, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT BROUGHT FORWARD THESE ITEMS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

UH, THAT SAID, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ASKING THE CITY MANAGER TO DEVELOP A FULL CODE OF CONDUCT IS THE RIGHT TOOL TO, UH, RESPOND TO THIS.

AND I'LL UNPACK WHY I FEEL THAT WAY.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE VOLUNTEERS WHO SERVE THE, THE CITY OF KYLE, UM, ALREADY MEET A VERY HIGH STANDARD IN MY EXPERIENCE.

SO SPEAKING ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A, UM, A CULTURE OF PREPARATION, OF GOOD FAITH, OF RESPECT FOR THE PROCESS.

AND, UM,

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SO I THINK THAT'LL DISCOURAGE PEOPLE OF HIGH QUALITY FROM WANTING TO, UH, PURSUE THESE OPENINGS WHEN THEY COME AVAILABLE.

SECOND, THE, UH, THE SCOPE DESCRIBED IN THE DIRECTIVE IS VERY BROAD.

IT INCLUDES STANDARDS FOR PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, ENGAGEMENT WITH RESIDENTS, COLLEAGUES, STAFF COUNCIL PLUS ENFORCEMENT, PLUS REMOVAL PROCESSES, DEVELOPING ALL OF THAT WILL TAKE A REAL AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME.

AND I THINK THAT THAT TIME WOULD BE BETTER SPENT ON TASKS THAT ARE GOING TO DIRECTLY SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF KYLE.

THEN THERE'S ALSO THE MATTER OF REGULATING PUBLIC SPEECH.

I'M SURE THERE'S FIRST AMENDMENT WORMS IN A CAN THAT ARE WAITING TO COME OUT.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

BUT, UH, DO WE, DO WE WANNA TAKE THAT ON? SO WHAT I WOULD OFFER AS AN ALTERNATIVE, RIGHT NOW, THE ITEM ALREADY HAS A, A LINE ABOUT A REMOVAL PROCESS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE FOCUS OF YOUR ACTION SHOULD BE IF YOU HAVE A CLEAR DOCUMENTED PROCESS TO REVIEW, AND IF NECESSARY, REMOVE SOMEONE WHOSE ACTION FALLS WELL OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S REASONABLE AND ACCEPTABLE.

I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, A REASONABLE TOOL FOR Y'ALL TO PURSUE THAT DOESN'T LAYER NEW POLICY ONTO ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY SERVING KYLE WITH SO MUCH DIGNITY AND, AND PASSION AND CARE.

SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT I HAVE KENNETH ROCHA.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MAYOR.

GOOD LUCK, BRIAN .

GOOD LUCK.

WE'LL, WE'LL BUILD UPON THE SUCCESSES THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO, UM, I SAY WE AS A COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE STAFF THAT YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT AND THAT LOOK UP TO YOU AND THE LEADERSHIP YOU PROVIDED.

SO, BEST OF LUCK, UM, AS A PUBLIC SERVANT FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

UM, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO WORK OUT OF A BROOM CLOSET, LITERALLY WITH JANITORIAL SUPPLIES IN THE SAME ROOM.

UM, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO WORK OUT OF TEMPORARY BUILDINGS.

I'VE EVEN GONE TO, IT IS EVEN GONE TO A PART WHERE WE WERE TOLD THERE IS NO SPACE FOR YOU INSIDE A BUILDING TO WORK OUT OF YOUR CITY ISSUED VEHICLE AND OR PERSONAL VEHICLE EMOTIONALLY.

IS THAT FAIR? NO.

BUT THIS IS WHERE LEADERSHIP COMES IN.

WE, WE KNEW THE END GOAL.

WE KNEW THAT IT WAS TEMPORARY.

WE KNEW THAT SOMEBODY HAD OUR BACK IN PURSUING A SUITABLE SPACE.

BUT KNOWING THAT IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT HOW KENNETH ROCHA FELT THAT THERE'S AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT IS IMPACTED BY THAT DECISION, WHEN COVID HAPPENED, EVERYBODY HAD TO CHANGE.

AND, BUT WHAT WE REALIZED WAS THERE'S HYBRIDS, UM, WORK SCHEDULES, THERE'S TELEWORKING OPPORTUNITIES, AND I BELIEVE SOME HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE HERE IN KYLE.

UM, AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE CITY OF KYLE AND Y'ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE TELEWORKING OPPORTUNITIES ARE IN PLACE FOR STAFF TO DEMONSTRATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THEM, BUT UNDER ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT A MILLION DOLLAR DECISION, TEMPORARY DECISION TODAY AFFECTS MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AND SO AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, I I I WANTED TO ALLOW Y'ALL TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE SEE THAT, UM, I DON'T SPEAK FOR CITY OF KYLE STAFF, BUT AS A STAFF MEMBER THAT'S BEEN TOLD AND BEEN PLACED IN THOSE SERIOUS, UM, DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, WE RECOGNIZE IT, UH, REGARDING, UH, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REWRITE, WE ARE AT A KEY POINT IN OUR CITY.

WE CAN MOVE KYLE FROM A MODEL OF GROWTH AT ANY COST TO PROGRESS THROUGH PRODUCTIVITY.

PLEASE DON'T PUT THE TAXPAYERS ON THE HOOK FOR MILLIONS TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT MORE DEBT.

WE NEED RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS THAT DON'T SACRIFICE THE ABILITY TO BUILD DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES.

WE NEED DEREGULATION THROUGH OUR CODE.

THIS WAY WE CAN ALL FOCUS ON RIGHT SIZING OUR STREETS, BUILDING PARKS FOR OUR FESTIVALS, SUPPORTING THE LIBRARY PROGRAMS, AND ENSURING WE HAVE WATER FOR THE FUTURE.

THANK Y'ALL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE ALL THE COMMENT FORMS I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.

OH, GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

I'M SHORT .

HEY, UH, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS DAWN CONLEY AND, UM, I'M WEANING THIS, BUT I THINK THE BEAUTY OF HAVING CITY COUNCIL

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AND WITH THAT IT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE COMMON THAT COME HERE WITH DIFFERENT TALENTS AND DIFFERENT WANTS AND DESIRES TO MAKE KYLE BETTER IN THE CITY THAT THEY SERVE.

AND, UM, I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE COMMON PERSON THING IS WE FORGET HOW TO SPEAK OR INTERACT IN A DIFFERENT MANNER.

AND, UM, JUST LIKE TEACHERS AND OTHERS, WE TAKE CLASSES THAT TALK ABOUT LIKE HOW TO REMOVE I FROM OUR COMMENTS OR HOW TO KNOW THAT I LOVE YOU, BUT REALLY LIKE NEGATES THE I LOVE YOU.

AND LIKE THESE WORD PLAYS TO HELP LIKE DEESCALATE OR GET YOUR POINT ACROSS IN A HEALTHY MANNER.

AND MAYBE A SUGGESTION WOULD BE BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE COMMON PEOPLE THAT JUST LIKE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, MAYOR MITCHELL WAS SAYING HE BOUGHT BOOKS TO HELP MAKE HIMSELF A BETTER MAYOR.

MAYBE ALLALL CAN INVEST IN LIKE A CLASS THAT WOULD BRING A PSYCHOLOGIST OR A SPEECH PERSON TO HELP Y'ALL ROUND OUT HOW YOU SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER.

AND HOW DO YOU SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE TO TALK TO YOUR WORKERS AND THEY'LL TAKE WHATEVER, BUT IT COULD REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO GET YOUR POINT ACROSS, TO DEESCALATE THINGS, TO, TO JUST MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR YOU.

AND, UM, AND SO MY SUGGESTION AND WOULD BE HAPPY WITH MY TAX DOLLARS IS GIVE YOU GUYS THAT TIME TO TEAM BUILD AND LEARN, UM, THE BEAUTY OF SPEECH WHEN YOU THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND, UM, AND KNOW HOW TO, UH, WORK TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT HAS A BEAUTIFUL LANGUAGE.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL ARE COMING FROM COMMONALITY AND ARE NOT POLITICIANS AND HAVE TO THINK CRAZY, BUT, UH, ARE HERE TO SERVE.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL THE SUCCESS AND, AND WORK TOGETHER.

SO MY, MY SUGGESTION IN THE LAST ONE MINUTES IS, AGAIN, MAYBE IF THERE'S TIME, I DON'T KNOW THE BUDGETING, BUT TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO SIT, NOT JUST FOR YOURSELVES, BUT GET A TEACHER AND, AND SPEAK ON THAT AND EVEN MAKE IT WHERE IT GOES TO BO UH, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS.

AND THAT IF THEY HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC AND AMONG THEMSELVES, IT COULD BE HELPFUL FOR THEM.

'CAUSE THEY'RE JUST COMMON PEOPLE TOO THAT ARE SERVING.

SO, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK WE HAVE, IS IT ONE OR TWO? ALL RIGHT, UP NEXT I HAVE MICHAEL MCDONALD.

WELL, I WISH I WAS UP HERE SPEAKING ABOUT UNICORNS, CANDY AND PUPPETS, BUT I'M NOT, WE HAVE PROBLEMS HERE.

AND I BELIEVE AGENDA NUMBER NINE FOR THE, UH, TRYING TO, TO, UH, SQUELCH FREE SPEECH FOR, FOR CITIZENS IS WRONG.

UH, DON'T BE FOOLED.

THIS IS A TROJAN HORSE.

YOU LET THIS THING IN AND WE CAN HAVE PROBLEMS. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IS WE GOT, WE GOT SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT DON'T CARE THAT WE LET A TROJAN HORSE IN.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP MY FREE SPEECH WHETHER I'M ON A COMMITTEE OR NOT.

I'M A CITIZENS OF KYLE.

I LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND I CAN SPEAK WHATEVER I WANT, EVEN IF IT OFFENDS YOU.

THERE'S MORE I WANNA SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO TEMPER IT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THIS REALLY UPSETS ME THAT WE HAVE THIS HAPPENING RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD.

IT'S TERRIBLE.

IT'S, IT IS, IT IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE.

AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR THINGS YOU DON'T LIKE.

PEOPLE GONNA SAY THINGS YOU DON'T LIKE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? GROW THICK SKIN.

SORRY.

YOU CHOSE THAT POSITION.

I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T MAKE ANY ONE OF YOU RUN.

YOU CHOSE IT YOURSELF.

AND YOU KNEW WHAT THE RISKS WERE.

YOU KNEW WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

SO KNOWING THAT YOU GROW THICK SKIN, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE TELLING YOU THINGS THAT YOU DON'T LIKE AND DON'T RUN TO TIKTOK OR DON'T RUN TO FACEBOOK AND, AND START SCREAMING ABOUT WHAT SOMEONE SAID, DEAL WITH IT.

I WANNA SAY MS. ABDA HOWARD DID NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK HE'S HE MEANT.

AND YOU KNEW THAT TOO, JUST LIKE HE DID.

AND THAT'S WRONG.

YOU ARE PLAYING THEM.

I THINK YOU, UP NEXT I HAVE STEPHANIE MCDONALD.

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I'M GLAD THIS IS BEING BROUGHT BACK.

UM, AS MY HUSBAND SAID, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THAT LAST MEETING, WELL THESE ITEMS WERE BROUGHT FORTH, BUT THE GENTLEMAN THAT SAID, I'M COMING AFTER YOU DID NOT MEAN IT AS A THREAT.

WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

WE HAVE RULES IN PLACE ALREADY FOR MEETINGS.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS OF PATAH WANTS TO CREATE NEW RULES, BUT SHE WILL NOT ADHERE TO THE RULES WE ALREADY HAVE.

BECAUSE YOU CANNOT ATTACK PERSONALLY ATTACK SOMEONE AND YOU CALL THE MAYOR A LIAR.

THAT'S A PERSONAL ATTACK.

THAT'S NOT A PHYSICAL THREAT, BUT IT'S A PERSONAL ATTACK.

YOU BROKE THE RULES.

YOU WANNA HAVE RULES FOR OTHER PEOPLE, BUT NOT FOR YOURSELF.

YOU DON'T WANNA FOLLOW THEM.

THAT'S WRONG.

THAT'S NOT LEADERSHIP.

SO I'M UNCLEAR ABOUT THE STATEMENT YOU MADE ON COMMUNICATING TO THE MEDIA, REPRESENTING THE CITY COUNCIL.

'CAUSE YOU'VE ALSO BEEN DOING THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THAT STOPPED.

IT'S, IT APPEARED THAT YOU DID.

BUT, UM, I'M GLAD ORIGINALLY WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, NOW IT'S BEEN KIND OF CHANGED ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE REALLY WANTING TO DO.

SO I'M GLAD IT'S BEING BROUGHT BACK UP AGAIN.

'CAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS ZAPATA WANTS, THE CITY STAFF, WHAT SHE WANTS TO DIRECT 'EM TO DO.

AND IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, UH, AFRAID OF CURBING OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS WHEN, UM, SHE'S SAYING THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BRING FORTH.

YOU'VE GOT TO TELL THEM WHAT TO BRING FORTH.

YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE THEM AN IDEA THAT JUST, UH, IT CAN'T BE THAT BROAD.

SO, UM, YOU'VE STARTED ESCALATING, YOU'VE STARTED VISION IN THIS CITY AND ESCALATING IT.

AND I, I JUST REALLY WISH YOU'D BEHAVE LIKE A PROFESSIONAL.

IT, IT WOULD HELP OUR CITY A LOT MORE THAN TRYING TO DIVIDE US ON NUMBER SEVEN.

UH, AS HAS BEEN SAID, EXPERIENCE AND FINANCE WOULD BE GOOD.

AND LOOKING FOR AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER, WE'RE COMING INTO BUDGET SEASON AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH BUDGET.

AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT BUDGET EXPERIENCE, UM, BOARD REQUIREMENTS.

SPEAKING OF RULES, BOARD AND COMMISSION REQUIREMENTS, STATE, YOU CANNOT SERVE ON TWO BOARD SIMULTANEOUSLY.

JAKE WEBB SERVES ON PNZ AS WELL AS COUNCIL COMPENSATION COMMITTEE.

THAT'S TWO BOARDS, TWO COMMITTEES.

SO I'D LIKE Y'ALL TO LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHY IT IS THAT WE HAVE RULES THAT WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING, AND YET WE WANNA CREATE NEW RULES.

AND THEN THE OFFICE SPACE FOR TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.

PLEASE THINK THIS THROUGH THE COST OF LOCATION, SPACE, ET CETERA.

PLEASE THINK THIS THROUGH.

ALSO, I DROVE WITH MY MOM OVER TO THE NEW COMMUNITY CENTER, NOT THE SENIOR CENTER ANYMORE.

AND SHE EVEN SAID, I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TURN IN HERE.

SO I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN MAKE TEMPORARY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, I PLANNING, I SAW IT, BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND AT ALL.

UH, THE FIX FOR THE ROAD, WE'VE GOT TO GET THAT RESOLVED BEFORE THAT PLACE OPENS.

WE CANNOT HAVE SENIORS TURNING IN THERE.

THEY HAVE SLOW REFLEXES.

IT'S A MUCH QUICKER ROAD THAN WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THE FORMS I HAVE.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? SEE YOU.

NONE.

I AM GOING TO CLOSE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.

BRIAN, IS IT OKAY IF I, UM, I TALKED TO JULIE BAGS.

WE HAD A CUSTOMER, OR NOT A CUSTOMER, UH, SORRY, .

WE HAD A, UH, EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION, UM, LUNCH TODAY, AND I GOT THERE AT THE TAIL END.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY A QUICK, LIKE, THANKS AND APPRECIATION.

IS THAT DOABLE? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO JULIE WAS SWEET ENOUGH TO PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR ME.

SO THANK YOU TO HER.

UM, THIS AFTERNOON THE CITY HOSTED A LUNCHEON FOR ITS EMPLOYEES TO DEMONSTRATE APPRECIATION FOR THEIR SERVICE AND IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.

THE LUNCH WAS CREATED BY AND FOR OUR CITY OF KYLE EMPLOYEES AND WAS ATTENDED BY STAFF FROM ACROSS THE CITY, INCLUDING STAFF FROM THE LIBRARY, PARKS, FINANCE, WATER, UTILITY, IT PLANNING, ENGINEERING, COMMUNICATIONS, 3 1 1, MUNICIPAL COURT, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS.

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UM, THE CITY OF KYLE EMPLOYEES WORK DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, UTILITIES, OUR PARKS, OUR LIBRARIES, AND OUR CENTRAL SERVICES.

AND MANY ARE BEHIND THE SCENE, BUT CRITICAL TO OUR COMMUNITY'S WELLBEING.

IT TAKES EMPLOYEES ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS AND ALL LEVELS TO SERVE OUR, OUR RESIDENTS.

DURING THE EVENT, THE CITY RECOGNIZED THOSE EMPLOYEES REACHING MILESTONE ANNIVERSARIES AND HAVE STAYED WITH THE CITY FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS AND UP TO 25 YEARS.

OUR EMPLOYEES ALSO SHARE A COMMITMENT BEYOND A JOB DESCRIPTION, ESPECIALLY DURING EMERGENCIES, HIGH DEMAND PERIODS AND TIMES OF CHANGE.

AND THEY REMAIN COMMITTED TO PROFESSIONALISM, RELIABILITY, AND PRIDE IN PUBLIC SERVICE.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE CHOICE OF PUBLIC SERVICE.

THEIR WORK MAKES THE CITY STRONGER, SAFER, AND MORE CONNECTED.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM, BUT, UM, I, I DROPPED BY AND THEY WERE OUTSIDE PLAY.

I GUESS THERE WAS LIKE A MAIN GAME OF HORSE,

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AND SO HOPEFULLY, UH, NEXT YEAR WE CAN MORE PEOPLE CAN ATTEND IT AND JUST GIVE 'EM A BIG SHOUT OUT.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

IT, IT WAS ON MY, MY CALENDAR AND UNFORTUNATELY, I, I BARELY MADE IT BACK INTO TOWN FROM WORK TO ATTEND THIS MEETING THAT I, I REALLY WANTED TO BE THERE.

UH, OUR, OUR STAFF IS, IS TRULY ONE OF OUR BEST ASSETS AND, UH, I CAN'T APPRECIATE 'EM.

I SAY ALL THE TIME THAT THEY MAKE US LOOK GOOD.

THEY, WE GIVE 'EM DIRECTION AND THEY TAKE THE FOOTBALL AND RUN WITH IT.

I LOVE IT.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM.

ALRIGHT.

RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? ALL

[III) Executive Session]

UM, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR THE MEETING, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT I THINK WANNA, UH, SAY FOR PARTS OF THE AGENDA.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE ATTORNEYS THAT WE'RE PAYING BY THE HOUR, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THEM BACK AN EXECUTIVE AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK OUT.

UH, WE HAVE A LONG, UH, EXECUTIVE WITH SEVERAL OTHER THINGS, BUT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AT THE END SO WE DON'T MAKE YOU GUYS WAIT, SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE, GO TO EXECUTIVE AND THEN COME BACK, HOPEFULLY, BRIEFLY.

THANK YOU.

OH, WAIT, WAIT.

NO.

ALRIGHT.

THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEMS. UM, ONE B AND C PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.0 7 1 5 5, 1 0.076, AND 5 5 1 0.089.

YOU GUYS, THE TIME IS 7 44.

THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE AND THERE WILL NOT BE ACTION TAKEN NOW.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA DO, SINCE YOU GUYS WERE VERY KIND ENOUGH, DID SARAH LEAVE? YOU GUYS WERE KIND ENOUGH TO STAY.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE UP.

UM, AGENDA ITEMS, UM, EIGHT AND NINE.

EIGHT AND NINE.

AND SO, UM, HOW THIS WORKS.

I'VE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE CONFUSED ONLINE, WHY THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT LOOKED EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT THEY WEREN'T.

SO HOW A RECONSIDERATION WORKS, WE FIRST HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE WHETHER OR NOT TO RECONSIDER A VOTE.

AND THEN FROM THERE WE TAKE, UM, WE TAKE UP THE ITEM AGAIN, IF IT PASSES, UM, IF WE DECIDE WE WANNA ASK MORE QUESTIONS OR WE WANNA APPROVE IT, THEN, THEN THAT'S NUMBER EIGHT.

AND THEN NUMBER NINE IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ITEM AGAIN.

[8) Reconsideration of the vote at the April 7th City Council Meeting to consider directing the City Manager to research and return to Council with a proposed Code of Conduct for members serving on City boards, commissions, and advisory bodies that establishes standards for professional conduct, public communication, and engagement with residents, colleagues, staff and Council, including enforcement mechanisms and a process for removal.]

STAFF AND COUNSEL, INCLUDING ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS AND A PROCESS FOR REMOVAL.

ITEM PRESENTER, PRESENTER, COURTNEY GZA.

SORRY.

OKAY, SO DURING OUR LAST MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, UM, I ASKED COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA, LIKE IF SHE, WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE TO HER, WHAT THOSE RULES LOOKED LIKE.

AND, UM, SHE COULDN'T GIVE ANY EXAMPLES AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN THE NEXT DAY, A CLARIFICATION WAS POSTED.

AND SO WITH THAT CLARIFICATION, UM, STATING THAT THE, SHE SAID THAT THE GOAL WAS TO ESTABLISH BASIC STANDARDS SUCH AS DECORUM, LIMITATIONS ON SPEAKING TO MEDIA AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF COUNCIL AND APPROPRIATE WORKPLACE BOUNDARIES WITH STAFF.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THE INTENT FOR THE ITEM WAS TO LIMIT ANYONE'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

HOWEVER, THE ISSUE'S NOT INTENT, IT'S JUST HOW BROAD THE DIRECTION TO STAFF WAS AND WHAT COULD ULTIMATELY COME BACK FOR APPROVAL.

AND SO SINCE THERE WAS ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE THAT WAS GIVEN BY MSTA, I FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING THIS BACK SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION OF WHAT THIS REALLY LOOKS LIKE.

AND, UM, IF WE WANT TO PROCEED FORWARD, GIVE BETTER, UM, DIRECTIONS TO STAFF ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOW WE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TALKING RECONSIDERATION.

DO WE WANNA RECONSIDER, DO WE WANNA GIVE BETTER DIRECTION? UM, SO ALL QUESTIONS SHOULD BE POSED TO THAT.

AND THEN IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT ITEM CAN BE BROUGHT UP AT THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

COUNCIL MEMBER, ADA, MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, CAN YOU PROVIDE ME ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHEN THERE WAS A, UH, COUNCIL ITEM BROUGHT FORTH IN WHICH IT WAS ALREADY LIKE A PREDETERMINED, PRE-PLANNED LIKE, IDEA OF WHAT EXACTLY WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN? BECAUSE IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, WHEN, UH, THERE WAS A, AN ITEM THAT YOU BROUGHT FORTH RELATING TO POSTING LIKE ALL OF THE RECEIPTS TO THE CITY WEBSITE, THERE WAS NO CLEAR DIRECTION ON HOW TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE JOB OF COUNCIL.

OUR JOB IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO BE ABLE TO RESEARCH THIS INFORMATION AND THEN BRING BACK TO US OPTIONS THAT WE THEN DISCUSS AND WE CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO DO OR NOT DO.

SO IF, IF I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, IF YOU COULD REMIND ME OF ANOTHER TIME WHEN THAT WAS AN EXPECTATION PLACED ON A COUNCIL ITEM,

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SO THAT'S INFORMATIVE FOR THEM TO KIND OF SEE WHERE OUR BRAIN IS GOING, WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

UM, AND IT'S NOT GIVING THEM SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS, BUT IT'S THE WORDS THAT WE DISCUSS, GIVE THEM FURTHER GUIDANCE.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO WE NOT THINK THAT STAFF DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT LAST TIME? THEN IT'S VERY OVERLY BROAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER MC.

OOPS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY.

THANK YOU.

UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I KIND OF APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT IT WAS BROAD BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT STAFF TO BE MAKING THE, THE JUDGMENT DECISION ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED.

I, IT WAS MY INTENTION THAT THEY WOULD DO RESEARCH, THEY WOULD LOOK TO SEE WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS TEXAS HAVE DONE, AND WHEN THEY SAY THEY, AND THEY WOULD BRING BACK WHAT THEIRS WERE, LET US POUR THROUGH THEM, AND WE COULD PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT WE LIKED, WHAT WE DIDN'T LIKE.

THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE, UH, A BASIS OR FRAMEWORK THAT WE COULD BUILD HOURS OFF OF.

UM, I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO GIVE STAFF A NARROW WINDOW TO WORK WITHIN.

'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S OUR JOB TO DO IS TO TAKE THE BROAD AND NARROW IT DOWN TO WHAT WE WANT SPECIFICALLY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY, I'M GONNA START WITH MY COMMENTS.

UM, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THIS WOULD BE AN ISSUE EXCEPT FOR WHEN THE DISCUSSION HAPPENED ON FACEBOOK.

THERE WAS ACTUALLY DIRECTION THAT WAS SAYING THIS IS WHAT STAFF IS GONNA BRING BACK.

IT WAS LIKE INTERVIEWS WITH THE MEDIA AND I DON'T HAVE IT PULLED UP RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT'S FOR ME IS WHERE I KIND OF WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL MAYBE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT DIRECTION WAS.

UM, AND SO I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK AND WE'RE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK EVEN, UH, MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS, BOARD MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS, THEY HAD, THEY WERE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WAS GONNA BE BROUGHT BACK.

UM, AND IN, IN THE PRIOR POST IT WAS, IT WAS A MIX OF IMMIGRATION ISSUES VERSUS SAFETY ISSUES.

AND IT WAS JUST A, A CONVOLUTION OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

AND SO, I, I THOUGHT YOU WERE RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBER SATO, WHEN YOU SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF IS GONNA BRING BACK, BUT THEN WHEN THERE WAS A POST SAYING, WELL, THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA COME BACK, THEN I THOUGHT, OKAY, LEMME LOOK IT UP BECAUSE, UM, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE CONFUSED.

I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS, UM, I, I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SEEM LIKE WE'RE OUT TO GET EACH OTHER.

WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

AND SO MAKING SURE THAT, OOPS, SORRY.

SORRY.

YOU FELT LIKE THAT WAS NOT WHAT YOU VOTED ON, RIGHT? SO SPECIFICS, YEAH.

SO WHEN I'M READING IT ONLINE, I WAS LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS THAT WE WERE VOTING FOR.

AND SO MAYBE THERE WAS A, A MISCOMMUNICATION ONLINE, UM, WITH WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING STAFF TO BRING BACK.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBER GZA YOU HAVE IT BROUGHT UP.

UM, I GUESS I CAN ALSO SAY THAT I WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION AND I SIMPLY PULLED OUT CONTEXT OF OTHER EXAMPLES THAT CITIES HAD DONE.

AND I SAID, THESE ARE OPTIONS, BUT I NEVER SAID THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO BRING BACK BECAUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

THAT'S UP TO STAFF.

I AGREE TO BRING BACK.

AND THERE WAS, AND I USED THE EXACT LANGUAGE, BUT I'VE USED IN THE AGENDA ITEM AND I MERELY POINTED OUT THAT THERE ARE DOZENS OF OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE ITEMS LIKE THIS.

YES.

GO AHEAD.

COUNT.

MAY I PRETEND TO BE US? OKAY, THANK YOU.

SORRY IF MY VOICE IS A LITTLE, I, WHAT DO WE HAVE ALREADY LIT? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING WRITTEN IN THE OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICY THAT ADDRESSES ANY KIND OF CONDUCT? I KNOW, I THINK IT HAS, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH ATTENDANCE.

CORRECT? LIKE AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MEETINGS MISSED OR WHATEVER THAT YOU COULD BE CONSIDERED FOR REMOVAL.

UH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT I, I BELIEVE 'CAUSE YOU AND I WORKED ON THAT, RIGHT? UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE BUILDING THE POLICY THAT IF I'M, IF I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS THE PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT AND PROFESSIONAL COMMUNICATION, UH, REGARDING BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.

UH, I, I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.

'CAUSE UH, IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT JUST TO GET PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER TO DO THESE BOARDS.

AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOARDS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THEM.

AND THAT INCLUDES KAYAK, WHICH IS THOSE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.

SO ARE WE IMPLEMENTING THEM AS WELL? UM, SO, UH, I GUESS IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT IT STATES IN THE BOARD'S, UH, POLICY ABOUT

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BUT, UH, MAYBE THAT'S JUST WHAT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ALL OF THIS IS FOR.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO GOING BACK, UM, TWO THINGS THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BACK WAS, DO NOT SPEAK TO MEDIA TO REPRESENT THE CITY COUNCIL UNLESS OTHERWISE DISCUSSED AND AGREED, UH, DO NOT SOLICIT POLITICAL SUPPORT FROM STAFF AT WORKPLACE.

UM, NOW THERE IS A BE WELCOMING TO ALL SPEAKERS AND PROVIDE EACH WITH EQUAL PUBLIC HEARING TIME, BUT NONE OF THOSE WERE, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE KNEW THE, THE COUNT THE STAFF WAS GONNA BRING BACK BECAUSE, UM, IT WAS VERY MUCH A, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME BACK, SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATION OR NOT.

BUT THEN WHEN I SAW, LIKE, DID THE DETAILED INFORMATION, I WAS LIKE, OH, I DON'T KNOW IF I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL REALLY NEEDED.

THEY WERE GONNA DIRECT STAFF TO DO.

WELL, IF YOU FINISH READING THE CONTEXT OF THAT, I MERELY JUST PULLED OUT EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE WHAT EXIST IN OTHER CITIES.

AND THAT WAS IT.

SO IT WASN'T, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO BRING BACK.

IT WAS, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS.

UM, IT SAYS, THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE THIS ITEM SHOULD BE CON OH WAIT, LET'S SEE.

UM, MY GOAL IS, OKAY, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT ULTIMATELY MISREPRESENTED WHAT ITEM THREE SIX BROUGHT TO DO.

THE AGENDA ITEM AS WRITTEN DOES NOT STATE ANYTHING ABOUT LIMITING FREE SPEECH.

AND I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S RESPONSE THAT IT IS WRONG TO ASSUME THAT STAFF WOULD BRING BACK ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT MIGHT DO SO IN MANY CITIES, THE CASE IS THAT THE CODES AND RULES ESTABLISH BARE MINIMUM STANDARDS, SUCH AS, UM, BUT IF THAT'S DIRECTION THAT WE WANNA GO, AND, AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING, I'M JUST SAYING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA DO, THAT'S NOT LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN, IN THE, IN THE ITEM OR THE MOTION.

CAN SOMEONE CLARIFY WHERE THAT'S NOT ADDRESSED? BECAUSE THE INTENT OF THE ITEM WAS TO BE BROUGHT AS SUCH.

AND I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND BEG EITHER, IF Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO RECONSIDER THIS OR IF Y'ALL WANT TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE, THAT'S FINE.

I'M MERELY JUST TRYING TO SET SOME SORT OF GUIDEBOOK HANDBOOK, SOMETHING, BECAUSE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE ALSO ENTRY ONTO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IS LIKE THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY ENTER PUBLIC SERVANT ENTRY.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER RULES OF PROCEDURE AND CODES OF ETHICS AND CODES OF CONDUCT THAT EXIST ACROSS THE STATE, A LOT OF IT IS ALSO JUST LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT.

LIKE, WELCOME TO THE CITY AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE PRACTICE.

THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN GO TO ASK FOR HELP.

THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT OF YOU.

THIS IS HOW WE REPRESENT OUR CITY, THESE ARE OUR VALUES.

SO I AM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED AS TO, WELL, I THINK THERE'S ALREADY RULES IN PLACE.

UM, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE READ THOSE RULES FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS, UH, AND THE OVERALL POLICY.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, SENDING STAFF BACK TO DO THINGS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.

AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD BRING BACK, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND IT WOULDN'T TAKE THAT MUCH TIME, BUT JUST CONSIDERING THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY SET OUT, AND THIS IS, THIS IS NOT MEANT TO SAY NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.

THIS IS JUST GIVING EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND MOVING FORWARD WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DIRECT OUR STAFF TO DO.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY, I I I FEEL LIKE THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE THE ONES THAT WE SHOULD HAVE WHENEVER THEY BRING BACK ALL THE OPTIONS.

THAT'S JUST, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

AND THAT WAS WHAT I WAS EXPECTING TO HAPPEN AFTER WE VOTED ON THIS.

AGREED.

AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IT'S BACK BECAUSE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WASN'T NECESSARILY WERE THE THINGS THAT WERE BEING SHARED ONLINE.

AND SO TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A CONNECTION AND THAT, THAT WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE VOTING ON.

I, I, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT SHE MADE A MOTION ON IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED.

AND SO WHATEVER IS POSTED ONLINE OR WHATEVER WAS DISCUSSED OPENLY, THAT'S THEN MAYBE IT HAS TO BE AN UNDERSTANDING WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IS GONNA BE BROUGHT BACK.

'CAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MOST CONCERNED WERE THE PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEER WITH OUR CITY.

AND SO, I MEAN, RESIDENTS MATTER, BUT VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED, THEY MATTER EVEN MORE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE VOLUNTEERING.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND, AND WE MADE IT CLEAR DURING THAT MEETING.

WE CAN'T SAY THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S ON BOARD FOR THAT.

I'M NOT.

AND SO, UM, MAYBE WHEN WE TALK TO STAFF, IF

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NOT THAT I THINK THEY WOULD BRING THAT BACK, BUT TO, TO GIVE PEACE OF MIND TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT HEY, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THIS.

WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN STIFLING YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

YEAH.

I, I THINK FOR ME IT WAS HAVING A FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN BASE OFF OF FOR THAT ABSOLUTE WORST CASE SCENARIO WHERE WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS BEYOND ACCEPTABLE AND LIKE, YOU'RE NO LONGER WELCOME AS A VOLUNTEER, LIKE .

OKAY.

AND THAT SHOULD BEEN, YOU HATE TO, YEAH, YOU HATE TO IMAGINE THAT.

BUT THERE, THERE ARE SCENARIOS WHERE THAT HAPPENS.

I MEAN, RIGHT? IF IF, YOU KNOW, HAVING FORBID SOMEBODY THAT SAT ON OUR BOARD ALL OF A SUDDEN IS CHARGED AND CONVICTED OF CHILD MOLESTATION, LIKE I DON'T WANT THEM SERVING IN OUR CITY.

UH, I, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A, A FRAMEWORK AND PROCESS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS HOW WE REPLACE YOU.

AND THAT I THINK THAT'S GREAT INFORMATION.

I THINK PROBABLY STAFF WOULD NEED TO KNOW THAT.

AND 'CAUSE YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE THINKING WORST CASE SCENARIO.

MM-HMM .

WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS GIVEN WAS KIND OF A BROADER SCOPE.

AND THEN WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT WAS, UH, IT GOES EVEN BEYOND THAT, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, NO TALKING WHAT, WHAT YOU COULD SAY TO THE NEWS, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME FOR SOCIAL MEDIA LIKE I USED TO .

SO I I'M COMPLETELY IGNORANT ABOUT THIS POST.

I HAVE NOT SEEN IT, NOT AWARE AT ALL OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WELL, SHE JUST READ IT WORD FOR WORD AND I NEVER GAVE SPECIFIC DIRECTION.

I SAID THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.

OKAY, SO THE, THIS IS GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.

UM, I, I'M VOTED IN FAVOR OF THIS AND, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

AND THE REASON, UM, THAT I DO SO IS THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND I REALIZE THAT PEOPLE COMING ONTO ONE OF OUR BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS RECEIVE VERY LITTLE TRAINING, VERY LITTLE DIRECTION.

IT'S KIND OF ALL, ALL ALL ON THE JOB TRAINING , YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF THROWN INTO IT AND THEN YOU LEARN.

UM, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PLATFORM TO START THAT TRAINING.

I THINK WE NEED TRAINING FOR EACH OF THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

YOU KNOW, AS WE STARTED THE BOARD ON AGING, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS, THAT'S STILL AN ISSUE.

UM, PARKS AND REC, YOU'RE JUST THROWN IN AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE ALL THE PARKS ARE.

I MEAN, SO I THINK THAT WE NEED, THIS IS A, A, A BASIS AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

UM, AND LIKE, UM, MARK SAID, I THINK THAT IT, UM, PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WHO HAVE NOT HAD EXPERIENCE WITH PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND IT IS DIFFERENT THAN JUST A COMMITTEE SOMEWHERE.

THE, THE BARS HIGHER AS IS WITH US AS WELL.

MM-HMM .

I MEAN, I VERY, WE GET ELECTED WITH VERY LITTLE GUIDANCE.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF IT IS LEARNING.

AND, UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHEN YOU SAY PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT, UM, THAT ARE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSION THAT FLAT OUT SAY, I'M A PROBLEM AND I NEED TO GO.

AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY THAT I DON'T WANT.

YEAH.

I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO, TO SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T, THAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS DECORUM AND PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT, I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT.

I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO STAND AT THAT PODIUM AND TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING WRONG AND NOT BE AFRAID.

AND, AND SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE I WANT STAFF TO UNDERSTAND OUR LIMITATIONS WHEN WE SAY DECORUM, RIGHT? YOU CAN COME UP, YOU CAN USE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND YOU CAN, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LIMITED.

AND SO ARE WE MAKING SURE WHEN THAT DIRECTION WAS GIVEN, THAT THAT STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT? MAYOR PORT DUBBI? YES, MA'AM.

UH, UH, I, I THINK MAYBE A LOT OF IT COULD BE JUST THE WORDING, ESTABLISHING STANDARDS FOR PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT VERSUS RESPECTFUL CONDUCT TOWARDS PUBLIC RESIDENTS AND SO FORTH.

'CAUSE UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO APPOINTED BY US.

WE'RE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

WE'RE ALSO THE ONES THAT GET, UH, UH, FORM OF A SALARY AND STIPEND.

SO IN A WAY WE HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL ON THAT END.