[I) Call Meeting to Order, Roll Call, and Excuse Absences]
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          GUYS FOR BEING HERE. TODAY IS TUESDAY JUNE 16TH. THE TIME IS 711. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER. CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? FLORES. HERE. TOBIAS. GOSA HERE. MEDINA HERE. ZAPATA HERE. HARRIS HERE. MCKINNEY. OKAY, WE HAVE FIVE. OH, THERE WE ARE. MCKINNEY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE SIX. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS. SECOND. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION BY MYSELF? AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION PASSES. 6 TO 1. OKAY. UP NEXT, IF I CAN HAVE EVERYBODY STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MAYOR, I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THE VOTE WAS 6 TO 0. YES, THE VOTE WAS SIX ZERO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          [III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
UP NEXT, WE HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS. THE CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE ENCOURAGED TO SIGN IN BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS. SPEAKERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA, ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS, AND WE ASK THAT YOU OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. OKAY. FIRST I HAVE KAREN SMITH. YOU COME ON UP. HELLO, I'M KAREN SMITH, I'M A SENIOR CITIZEN LIVING IN KYLE, AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE CAL AREA SENIOR ZONE OR CAS. AND IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT TO ME IN MY LIFE AFTER RETIREMENT. AND I KNOW THE CITY OF CAL HAS SUPPORTED US AND WE'RE GETTING THIS NEW BUILDING. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO STRONGLY URGE YOU TO NAME IT THE ADELE HURST SENIOR COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          AND THAT WAY IT WILL HONOR THE WOMAN WHO ACTUALLY STARTED CAS IN 2006. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          NEXT I HAVE DON CONLEY. HELLO. MY NAME IS DON CONLEY. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ME, I'M WITH KYLE SENIOR ZONE. I'M THE PROGRAMS ENTERTAINMENT COORDINATOR. I FIRST WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY AGAIN TO OUR JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION THIS FRIDAY. FROM 1030 TO 1 P.M. 
          WE'LL BE DOING OUR FLAG RAISING CEREMONY AND THEN FOLLOWED WITH FOOD AND EXHIBIT KIDS ZONE AND JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME. SO PLEASE COME TO THAT. ALSO ON JUNE 5TH, WE CHALLENGED CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF TO CHAIR VOLLEYBALL, WHICH IS A FUN GAME THAT WE PLAY EVERY FIRST AND THIRD, WHERE WE KEEP OUR CHEEKS IN THE SEAT AND OUR ARMS IN THE AIR TO KEEP THAT BALL GOING AND PLAYING TWO GAMES, THE CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL BEAT KASS. SO WITH THAT, CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR FIRST PLACE. THANK YOU JESSE. WE'RE GOING AFTER NOW THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CHALLENGING THEM. SO THAT'S PRETTY AWESOME. YOU WANT TO GIVE IT TO JESSE? YEAH. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. SO MUCH FUN. SO MUCH FUN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT WE HAVE DAVID KIRTLEY. HI, EVERYONE. OKAY. I WAS HOPING I'D HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ON FACEBOOK AND THE CONVERSATION'S BEEN EVOLVING SO QUICKLY. AND SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IN THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION, BUT I HOPE YOU GUYS ALL GOT MY EMAIL I SENT, AND I HOPE YOU DIDN'T SKIM ANY OF IT. IT WAS ALL I WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT, SO I HOPE EVERYONE READ IT REALLY CAREFULLY. BUT SO I WAS HERE BACK IN APRIL AND THERE WAS AN AGENDA ITEM RELATED TO THE VIBE TRAIL, WHICH PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS AN AMAZING PROJECT. IT'S GOING TO BE A CITY WIDE SYSTEM OF BIKE TRAILS THAT WILL MAKE IT EASY TO GET FROM ANYWHERE IN KYLE TO ANYWHERE ELSE IN KYLE, AND I'VE BEEN REALLY INTERESTED IN IT. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND SO THIS WAS A, AN AGENDA ITEM TO, TO PUT TOGETHER A GREENWAYS AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD, THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME WAS THAT IT WOULD ENABLE THE CITY TO GO AFTER BIG STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WOULD ALLOW SECTIONS OF THE TRAIL TO BE 
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BUILT, YOU KNOW, USING GRANT MONEY, WHICH IS SORT OF DOUBLE OUR THE CITY'S MONEY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD TWICE AS MUCH OF THE TRAIL AT A TIME. AND SO A BUNCH OF US FROM THE TRAIL KYLE TRAIL COALITION CAME. INCIDENTALLY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU SHOULD JOIN OUR FACEBOOK GROUP. 
          IT'S A LOT OF FUN, BUT. SO WE WERE. WE WERE ALL REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND THEN JUST IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO, WE SORT OF FOUND OUT THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE KNEW HAD LEFT. AND SO I WASN'T SURE WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THOSE GRANTS. AND SO I WAS ABLE TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT GRANTS THEY HAD BEEN PLANNING TO GO FOR. BUT IT SEEMS MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT NOBODY AT THE CITY CURRENTLY WAS REALLY FOLLOWING UP ON THAT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY IS FOLLOWING UP ON THOSE GRANTS, BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS SUCH AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY AND I WOULD HATE TO LET IT SLIP AWAY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AFTER, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SPENT ALL THIS MONEY TO PUT TOGETHER THIS GREENWAYS AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN. AND SO, YEAH, THE ONE THING IS THAT I REALLY HOPE THAT THE CITY FOLLOWS UP ON THE GRANTS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT I, YOU KNOW, THE REASON I'M HERE TONIGHT IS THAT I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WOULD BE SORT OF MY CHANCE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE CITY MANAGER. AND SO THE MESSAGE I WOULD SEND TO THE CITY MANAGER IS JUST LIKE, I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. MAYBE WE CAN'T SLOW DOWN, BUT I WOULD WONDER IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO SLOW DOWN THIS PROCESS OF HIRING A NEW PARKS DIRECTOR A LITTLE BIT. 
          ALL OF THIS HAS COME AS A BIG SURPRISE TO US. WE'RE ALL JUST KIND OF STILL PROCESSING IT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THE PARKS DIRECTOR IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT POSITION THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DO A WIDE SEARCH, NOT JUST AN 11 DAY SEARCH OR A TEN DAY SEARCH, WHATEVER IT'S BEEN, AND THAT MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME IMPACT FROM THE KYLE TRAIL COALITION. A LOT OF US, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RIDDEN OUR BIKES ALL OVER KYLE. WE KNOW THE CITY VERY WELL. A LOT OF US HAVE. I MEAN, NOT ME. BUT JOSH IS GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU IN A MOMENT. 
          HE'S HE'S WORKED WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT BUILDING TRAILS LIKE AT WATER LEAF PARK FOR YEARS. 
          AMOUNT OF TIME. YOU'LL HEAR FROM JUSTIN, JOSH IN JUST A SECOND. BUT IF WE COULD JUST SLOW DOWN THE DIRECTOR POSITION A LITTLE BIT, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE JOSH KELLER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOSH KELLER. I'M THE FORMER TRAILS COMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON. I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OVER THE PAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS. I'VE SAT IN BOARD MEETINGS, INFORMAL MEETINGS, IN AN OFFICE, SOMETIMES IN AN OFFICE, AND SOMETIMES OUT IN THE PARKS, OUT ON THE TRAILS, SOMETIMES ON AN ATV. I'VE WORKED TOGETHER TO CREATE EVENTS FOR KIDS AND VOLUNTEER DAYS. I SAW HOW THEY HANDLED BUSINESS BEFORE DAVID LOPEZ, AND I'VE SEEN HOW THEY'VE HANDLED BUSINESS SINCE HE'S ARRIVED. IT'S BEEN SUCH A STARK DIFFERENCE. THAT'S NOT JUST MY OPINION. I SHARED OVER 20 EXAMPLES ON THE KYLE TRAIL COALITION FACEBOOK PAGE TODAY. 
          I UNDERSTAND WE'RE IN A BUDGET DEFICIT, BUT THE INVESTMENT KYLE MADE IN PARKS WASN'T JUST SPENDING, IT WAS PAYING FOR ITSELF. THE GRANT PROGRAM ALONE PROVES THIS RESEARCH ALSO BACKS UP THIS IDEA. IN 2019. REVIEW BY TEXAS A&M RESEARCH JOHN CROMPTON FOUND HOMES NEAR TRAILS TYPICALLY SELL FOR 3% TO 5% MORE THAN COMPARABLE HOMES WITHOUT TRAIL ACCESS. THAT'S REAL TAX REVENUE GENERATED BY THE WORK THIS DEPARTMENT WAS DOING. WHAT WORRIES ME THE MOST RIGHT NOW IS THE PACE. REMOVING THIS MANY EXPERIENCED PEOPLE THIS QUICKLY IS A SERIOUS RISK ON ITS OWN, FILLING THE DIRECTOR ROLE JUST AS QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY FROM WITHIN, WITHOUT A REAL SEARCH MULTIPLIES THAT RISK. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO SLOW DOWN, PAUSE THE HIRING PROCESS, CONSIDER A TEMPORARY PARKS MANAGER IF NEEDED. TAKE THE TIME TO GATHER FULL INFORMATION BEFORE MAKING DECISIONS THAT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDO. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT, I HAVE MARIO PEREZ. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL ON JUNE 9TH, 2026, THE COMMUNICATION COMPANY B ROBERTSON INSTALLED A FIBER OPTIC SPLICE BOX IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY. I WAS PUZZLED WHY THE NEW BOX WAS BEING INSTALLED ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE PROPERTY, FROM WHERE THE EXISTING OUTDOOR NETWORK BOX IS LOCATED, IT WOULD BE WISE FOR THIRD PARTY COMPANIES TO REACH OUT TO HOMEOWNERS TO LEARN WHERE THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT IS LOCATED. COMMUNICATION WITH RESIDENTS WILL REDUCE WORK AND MINIMIZE DAMAGE TO LAWNS, AND MAKE IT EFFICIENT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING EXISTING INDOOR MEDIA CABINET. ACCORDING TO FIELD 
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PERSONNEL, THE CONTRACTOR RELIES ON GOOGLE MAPS TO LOCATE THE SPLICE BOXES, AS OPPOSED TO EVALUATING THE EXISTING LOCATION OF THE RESIDENTS OUTDOOR NETWORK BOX. I RECENTLY LEARNED THAT I MAY JUST END UP WITH MULTIPLE SPLICE BOXES ON MY PROPERTY, ONE FOR EACH INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER. ACCORDING TO THE CITY ORDINANCE. CHAPTER 38 RIGHT OF WAY CONSTRUCTION, A CONTRACTOR IS REQUIRED TO RESTORE THE PREMISES TO AS GOOD AS THEY WERE BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF SUCH ACTIVITIES. I CURRENTLY HAVE DEEP RUTS IN MY DRAINAGE SWELL ALONG SOUTH STATE STREET. THE DAMAGE WAS CAUSED WHEN THE CONTRACTOR WAS STATIONED AND UNLOADING THEIR MACHINERY. THIS IS A DRAINAGE SWELL, THAT IS THAT I MADE CERTAIN IT HAD PROPER FALL TO THE DITCH WHERE OUR HOUSE WAS BUILT. THE RUTS HAVE HAD A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MY DRAINAGE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RECENT RAINS. RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO REPORT INCIDENTS OF PROPERTY DAMAGE DURING FIBER OPTIC INSTALLATION. I DISCOVERED IT WAS NOT SO EASY. 
          IF RESIDENTS ARE UNABLE TO CONTACT THE BROAD BROADCAST PROVIDER OR RESOLVE ISSUES, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND FILE AN INCIDENT REPORT USING A CITY EMAIL OR THE 311 PROGRAM. THIS INFORMATION SHOULD BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE NOT CITY PROJECTS, BUT CONTRACTORS ARE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS SO THAT PUBLIC WORKS INSPECTOR CAN MONITOR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND ENSURE PROPER REPAIRS TO THE PREMISES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE LARRY GULICK. MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I KNOW THINGS GET HEATED AT TIMES AND WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT I WAS GLAD TO WATCH THE EARNEST WORK THIS PAST SATURDAY TO ADDRESS THE FINANCIAL SITUATION. THE CITY OF COWS FACING WITH UNFUNDED PROJECTS AND OPERATING REVENUE SHORTFALLS, I SAW A COUNCIL WORKING TOGETHER RECOMMENDING GRANT WRITING, DEFERRING SOME PROJECTS AND COMMITTING TO HIGHER PRIORITY NEEDS. IT WAS A GREAT THING TO SEE. AS THE CITY TIGHTENS ITS BELT, WE SHOULD REVIEW CONTRACTS TO ENSURE WE AREN'T OVERPAYING. WITH THAT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REVIEW THE FORMER CITY MANAGER'S CONTRACT CLOSELY. I'VE LAID OUT A SERIES OF ISSUES IN AN EMAIL THAT I SENT TO EACH OF YOU. THESE ISSUES ARE CREDITED LEAVE SICK LEAVE, VACATION BUYBACK AND WHAT'S OWNED, WHAT IS OWED AT RESIGNATION VERSUS TERMINATION CONTRACTS ARE IN WRITING FOR A REASON. EACH SIDE CAN CITE ITS PROVISIONS TO ENSURE THE AGREEMENT IS UPHELD AFTER THE CITY SETTLES HOW THIS CONTRACT SHOULD BE READ. I'D ASK THIS COUNCIL TO APPLY THE SAME CARE TO THE SIX CREEKS CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE RETAIL, WATER AND WASTEWATER CUSTOMERS ON THAT PROPERTY. ON JUNE 2ND. 
          FROM THIS DAIS, WE HEARD A CONTRACT IS A CONTRACT. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. UP NEXT, I HAVE BETTY CONLEY. IF I'M CORRECT, IS MR. WESTON GOING TO GIVE YOU HIS TIME, MRS. WESTON? SORRY. YES. OKAY. SO MISS CONLEY WILL GET SIX MINUTES, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BETTY CONLEY. I'M A CITIZEN OF KYLE. 
          ALTHOUGH SATURDAY WAS A GREAT TIME TO SEE COUNCIL WORKING TOGETHER, I WAS SADDENED AT WHAT HAPPENED ON THE COUNCIL MEETING ON TUESDAY, JUNE 2ND. THE DISRESPECTFUL CONDUCT AND CONDESCENDING REMARKS TOWARDS THE MAYOR, COUNCIL AND STAFF WAS INEXCUSABLE IN A FORM OF BULLYING. HE WAS VERBALLY ABUSED. ABUSED BY MISS ZAPATA, MR. MOHIT AND THE MAYOR. 
          ACCUSATIONS OF ASSUMPTIONS WERE IMPLIED OF WRONGDOING, IF ANY, BECAUSE OF MR. MOHIT AND THE TIME THAT HE SPENT WITH THE CITY. WITHOUT GETTING THE TRUE FACTS. ONLY AFTER THE MAYOR ASKED MR. MOHIT IF HE SAW ALL THE CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS IN CIP, DID HE SAY NO, HE DID NOT. WHEN BRIAN LANGLEY WAS HERE, THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER, HE OPENED ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND SOME OF THOSE WENT OVER THAT WAY. I THINK WHEN THERE'S DEMEANING TONES, DEROGATORY AND ACCUSATORY MANNER, THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE ON THE DAIS WHEN IT'S A BULLY ELECTED OFFICIAL WHOSE BULLYING, THE STAKES ARE EVEN HIGHER. IT'S SO SAD THAT TO SEE THE MAYOR CHASTISED AND OTHERS ABOUT RESPECTING EACH OTHER WHEN THEY'RE NOT GIVEN THE RESPECT. WHEN ASKED FOR YOUR VOTE, YOU SAID, I QUOTE, WASHINGTON HAS THOSE COW HAS WHATEVER THIS IS, AND I REFUSE 
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TO BE PART OF IT. AND YOU VOTED NO. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT COW IS. IT CONSISTS OF HARD WORKING CITIZENS. THIS IS HARD FOR ME THAT BELIEVES IN TRUST, HONESTY, INTEGRITY, TRANSPARENCY COUPLED WITH TREATING EACH OTHER RESPECT. THEN WHEN AGENDA 11 CAME UP, COUNCILWOMAN WALKED OUT OF THE COUNCIL MEETING WITH NO EXPLANATION. I SEE THAT THERE WAS DISRESPECT TO YOUR OWN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE VETERANS. YOU DID NOT STAY LONG ENOUGH TO EVEN HAVE REPRESENT AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU HAD ON THE AGENDA. YOU DENIED THOSE VETERANS RESPECT WHEN YOU WALKED OUT. ELECTED OFFICIALS HOLD A UNIQUE AND INFLUENTIAL ROLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. TO SERVE YOUR BEHAVIOR CAN TRICKLE DOWN THE EFFECT AND SPREAD ALL THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. TOXIC BEHAVIOR ON THE DAIS FROM WHOEVER ERODES PUBLIC TRUST AND THE EFFECTIVE FUNCTIONING OF GOVERNMENT INSTITUTIONS. OFFENSIVE, DEROGATORY OR DEMEANING COMMENTS. COMMENTS, THIS OF TONES OF VOICE AND BODY LANGUAGE ARE ALL TYPES OF BULLYING. AN APOLOGY IS WARRANTED AND OWNED TO THE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF AND THE CITIZENS OF CAL. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ONE I'M READING IS ABOUT THE FORENSIC AUDIT. WE NEED A FORENSIC AUDIT, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE 14 MILLION, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PAST YEARS. 
          THERE WERE SIGNS OF MISTRUST AND COUNCIL WITH MONEY TRANSACTIONS. FOR ME, EXAMPLE ONE MONEY WAS PAID FOR A CREDIT CARD EXPENSE AROUND 10,000, WHICH WAS REIMBURSED AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED AND THEN NOT PAID BACK. EXAMPLE TWO 200 000 AGREEMENT TO CAS WITH THE COUNTY TO COMMIT TO PAY FOR SHOVEL READY PLANS. A MOTION WAS MADE IN NOVEMBER AND THE MOTION PASSED SEVEN ZERO. THIS WAS TAKEN AWAY AS WELL AND THE LAKELAND IS TWO ON 150. HOWEVER, THERE WERE NO MOTIONS TO RESCIND THE AGREEMENT. IN NOVEMBER OF 2019. IF YOU'RE GOING TO AMEND AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS ALREADY MOTIONED IN PAST ROBERT RULES, YOU NEED TO RESEND THAT AGREEMENT SO THE PUBLIC PEOPLE KNOW I HAVE THEM ALL COMING TO ME SAYING, YOU GOT 200,000 FROM THE CITY. YOU GOT 200,000 FROM THE CITY. WE DID NOT GET 200,000 FROM THE CITY. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT ANY FURTHER THAN THAT. WE JUST DID NOT GET IT. I UNDERSTAND 194,000 WAS MOVED BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT WHERE DID THE BALANCE OF 6000 OF THAT 200,000 GO AND THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK, AS YOU COULD SAY, IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF A $14 MILLION QUESTIONABLE DEFICIT. THERE ARE TOO MANY QUESTIONS, NOT ENOUGH ANSWERS. A FORENSIC AUDIT IS TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH ABOUT FINANCIAL DEALINGS. THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A CLEAR AND OBJECTIVE PICTURE OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SITUATION, WHICH THE CITIZENS OF KYLE DESERVE TO KNOW. WHETHER IT'S GOOD OR BAD. I HOPE IT'S ALL GOOD. A FORENSIC AUDIT WILL PROVIDE A DETAILED FINANCIAL FUND FLOW, IDENTIFYING TRANSACTIONS THAT MAY REQUIRE CLARIFICATION AND MAY WARRANT A CLOSER REVIEW. I KNOW A FORENSIC AUDIT IS GOING TO COST US MONEY, BUT THE CITY HAS BEEN PAYING MONEY FOR ALL OTHER KIND OF THINGS, SUCH AS THE BATHROOM AT MARY CARLSON PARK. IT WILL COST US, WHAT, ABOUT $1 MILLION? YOU WERE SPEAKING. WE SAVED A TREE, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT THAT COST US, I'M NOT SURE, AROUND $1 MILLION, BUT WHEN THE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FORENSIC AUDIT, WE'RE TRYING. PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO TELL US, NO, NO, NO, IT'S GOING TO COST MONEY. WELL, THAT'S MONEY WELL SPENT. 
          IF WE'RE LOSING MONEY SOMEWHERE IN THAT AUDIT. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE MICHAEL MCDONALD. 
          GOOD EVENING. TODAY I WANT TO EXPRESS SOME THOUGHTS THAT MAY HELP. DURING THE BUDGET BUDGET TALKS, OUR MAIN GOAL SHOULD BE TO DO THE VERY BEST THAT WE CAN FOR THE CITIZENS OF KYLE, BUT THAT TAKES A LOT OF HARD WORK AND SACRIFICE, EACH INDIVIDUAL SACRIFICING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE TEAM. FOR EXAMPLE, ONLY FIVE WOMEN'S COLLEGE BASKETBALL TEAMS HAVE COMPLETED A SEASON UNDEFEATED, AND ONE OF THOSE TEAMS, THE UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT, HAS DONE IT SIX TIMES, WITH THE REST DOING IT ONE TIME. EACH. LEADERSHIP AND 
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THOSE WHO ENGAGE PLAY A HUGE ROLE IN HOW GOOD A TEAM CAN BE. ALL THESE TEAMS HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON TEAMWORK. YOU DON'T GO UNDEFEATED WHEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS RUNNING THE SHOW. 
          IT TAKES A TEAM TO MAKE IT WORK, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL. LET'S TALK ABOUT TEAMWORK. T IS FOR TALK. 
          TALK TO EACH OTHER. REACH OUT AND COMMUNICATE YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS. DON'T BE AFRAID TO EXPRESS WHAT YOU ARE THINKING. MAKE SURE THAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE RELEVANT TO THE PRESENT CONVERSATION AND NOT JUST RANDOM. E IS FOR ENCOURAGE. BE AN ENCOURAGER TO OTHERS. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHERS ARE GOING THROUGH AND WHAT TYPE OF DAY THEY ARE HAVING. BUT YOU CAN SAY A KIND WORD, PAT A SHOULDER, SMILE A LITTLE MORE AND BE GENUINELY INTERESTED IN EACH OTHER. A IS FOR AVAILABILITY. MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE TO NOT JUST ONE ANOTHER, BUT TO THE CITIZENS AS WELL. ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR POSITION AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITIZENS OF KYLE. RESPONDING TO EMAILS, RETURNING PHONE CALLS, OR MEETING UP WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS. MAKE YOUR MAKES YOU AVAILABLE, MISS. FOR MANY, OUR COUNTRY'S MOTTO IS E PLURIBUS UNUM. OUT OF MANY. ONE. YOU MUST CONSIDER THAT OUR CITY IS DIVERSE AND MANY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS AND IDEAS WANTED TO BE EXPRESSED. AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU REPRESENT PEOPLE WITH WHOM YOU AGREE AND WITH AND DISAGREE. YOU REPRESENT MANY AND NOT A FEW. W IS FOR WILLING. AS REPRESENTATIVE, YOU SHOULD BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO NEW IDEAS, THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS OF OTHERS. YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST IDEAS ON HOW TO ACCOMPLISH A TASK, SO YOU SHOULD BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. YOU MUST BE WILLING TO ADMIT WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND AND WHEN YOU ARE WRONG. ALWAYS FOR OPPORTUNITIES. AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU REPRESENT OTHERS IN CITY MATTERS. YOUR JOB IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT DON'T THINK THAT YOU ARE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE LIFE SOMETIMES SERVES UP A NICE HEAPING SLICE OF HUMBLE PIE LATER ON. DON'T WASTE THESE OPPORTUNITIES. R IS FOR RECOGNIZE. TAKE THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE THE POSITION YOU ARE IN AND THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT YOU DO. CITIZENS ARE COUNTING ON YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND NOT TO CUT CORNERS ON IMPORTANT ISSUES, BECAUSE YOUR JOB MAKES IT OUR LIFE EASIER AND LIGHTENS OUR BURDENS AS WELL. RECOGNIZE YOUR POSITION AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AND WHO YOU REPRESENT, BECAUSE WE COUNT ON YOU TO DO YOUR BEST FOR US. K IS FOR KYLE. YOU REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF KYLE. THE DECISION YOU MAKE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IMPACTS EVERY CITIZEN OF KYLE. BE TRANSPARENT, HONEST, GENUINE WITH THE CITIZENS WHO FAITHFULLY PLACED YOU IN A POSITION TO MAKE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES. WE ALL CHOSE TO LIVE IN KYLE, AND WE WANT OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO MAKE THE ABSOLUTE BEST DECISION THEY CAN TO MAKE OUR CITY THE BEST IT CAN BE. TEAMWORK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE STEPHANIE MCDONALD. BEFORE I START, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS, BUT LIZ NEWBERRY WANTED TO DONATE THREE MINUTES. GIVE ME HER THREE MINUTES. OKAY. IF YOU'LL JUST FILL OUT A FORM AND THEN AND THEN HAND IT TO JENNIFER WILL BE GOOD. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR FLORES AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU TO MOVE ITEMS 18 AND 19 TO THE TOP OF THE DISCUSSION. I'D ONCE AGAIN LIKE TO THANK MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO RESTORE OUR CITY TO A MORE SECURE FISCAL POSITION. WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK, AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL APPROVING THE FORENSIC AUDIT. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, YOU SEEM TO THINK THE $14 MILLION BUDGET SHORTFALL IS NOT A BIG ISSUE, BUT IT IS TO THE TAXPAYERS. THAT'S WHY IT'S GOING TO TAKE QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO PULL US OUT OF THIS AVOIDABLE SITUATION. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA, YOU VOTED FOR MR. MOHIT RIGHT BEFORE THE VOTE. MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS TOOK THE TIME TO READ YOU ALL OF HIS RESPONSIBILITIES AND HIS SCOPE OF AUTHORITY. SO YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT HE HAD THE RIGHT TO LET ELIMINATE POSITIONS, DO WHATEVER IT TOOK TO BRING THE BUDGET BACK IN. 
          WITHIN HIS SCOPE OF AUTHORITY, 65% OF THE CITY'S BUDGET IS SPENT ON PAYROLL. IN LIGHT OF THIS, YOU SHOULD EXPECT REDUNDANT POSITIONS TO BE ELIMINATED. ALSO, 69% OF PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT IS SPENT ON PAYROLL, SO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXPECTED THAT THIS DEPARTMENT WOULD BE AFFECTED. OUR CITY HAS BEEN TOP HEAVY IN PAYROLL FOR A LONG TIME. MR. MOHIT'S JUDGMENT IS SOUND. THE RESERVES SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED, AND OUR FORMER CITY MANAGER, BRIAN LANGLEY, HAD A DUTY TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL AND ADVISE THEM OF THE STATUS OF OUR RESERVES. THAT WAS NOT DONE. THOSE SHOULD ONLY BE USED FOR AN EMERGENCY. NOW TOUGH DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET. FOR YEARS, RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL, IMPLORING THEM TO REIN IN SPENDING. LET'S WORK ON BALANCING THE BUDGET, COUNCIL MEMBERS. ZAPATA. I ALSO NOTICED WHEN YOU'RE. WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CIP ITEMS ON SATURDAY'S MEETING, YOU REPEATEDLY SAID, IF WE SAVE ON THIS ITEM, WE CAN SPEND SOME ON THAT ITEM. WE WANT TO SAVE ON ITEMS TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, NOT TO CONTINUE SPENDING. WE 
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WANT TO REIN THAT IN. REGARDING FORMER CITY MANAGER LANGLEY'S PAYOUT, BY HIS OWN ADMISSION AT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, HE STATED THAT HE WOULD NOT RECEIVE CREDITED TIME UNLESS TERMINATED. WE ALL KNOW HIS CONTRACT WAS REVISED AT THE LAST MINUTE TO GET AROUND THE NEW STATE LEGISLATION, EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 2025. THE REASON FOR THAT LEGISLATION TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IS TO PROTECT TAXPAYERS FROM EXCESSIVE SEVERANCE PAYOUTS FOR MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES, TO CHANGE HIS SEVERANCE PAYOUT TO 20 WEEKS AND INCREASE HIS VACATION OF 32 STILL COSTS THE TAXPAYERS THE SAME AMOUNT AS BEFORE THE LEGISLATION. IT SIMPLY CHANGED HOW THAT PAYOUT WOULD BE CODED. IN ADDITION TO THAT, HE CASHED OUT ABOUT $50,000 IN VACATION PAY. THIS IS BEYOND BELIEF. HE SHOULD BE PAYING US SOME MONEY. BACK AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, A PORTION WAS CONTENTIOUS, DIVISIVE AND DISRUPTIVE. ONE RESIDENT PRESENT AT THE MEETING EVEN MADE AN OBSCENE GESTURE AT OTHER RESIDENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA ABRUPTLY LEFT THE MEETING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE VOTE WAS TAKEN. SHE WAS ANGRY ABOUT THE VOTE AND HAS SINCE SAID SHE HAD TO LEAVE TO GO TO HER BIRTHDAY DINNER. IF THIS WERE TRUE, WHY WOULDN'T SHE HAVE SAID ANYTHING PUBLICLY ABOUT LEAVING OR PRIVATELY TO THE MAYOR? SHE ALLUDED THAT SHE CARED ABOUT VETERANS AND THAT SHE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM THAT SHE WAS GOING TO PRESENT. YET SHE CAME. SHE LEFT BEFORE THE ITEM CAME FORWARD, WHICH WAS TABLED FOR TONIGHT. WHY DID SHE PUT IT ON THAT MEETING'S AGENDA IF SHE WAS NOT GOING TO BE PRESENT? COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA, WE ALL SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU. SHE ALSO STATED THE INTENT OF OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND IS DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR MAYOR. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PUT A STOP TO THIS BY CENSURING HER. THIS CANNOT CONTINUE. SHE'S CREATING A HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT AND THEN PLAYING THE VICTIM. SHE ALSO STATED PUBLICLY THAT THERE WOULD BE A 10% CUT FOR CERTAIN CITY EMPLOYEES. OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAD NOT HEARD THIS. WHEN QUESTIONED, SHE SAID SHE RECEIVED THIS INFORMATION THROUGH AN ANONYMOUS EMAIL. OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MOHIT, SAID THIS IDEA WAS DISCUSSED PRIVATELY IN A MEETING WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, ONLY SIMPLY AS AN IDEA. COUNCIL MEMBER ALSO STATED THAT A PARKS AND RECS EMPLOYEE WAS FIRED AND ALLUDED THAT THE MAYOR WAS BEHIND IT. THE WORDING OF THIS COULD HAVE HURT THAT EMPLOYEE BY THIS INFORMATION BEING RELEASED WHEN SEEKING FUTURE EMPLOYMENT. BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ARE PERSONNEL ISSUES AND I BELIEVE THIS BREAKS THE RULES OF COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA STOPPED THE IRRESPONSIBLE SPEECH. ONE OF OUR CITY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, HOLLY WILSON, MADE ALARMING STATEMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ACCUSING THE MAYOR OF WORKING WITH THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO FIRE THE CITY OF KYLE PARKS AND RECS EMPLOYEES, LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT WITH NO LEADERSHIP. IN ESSENCE, SHE'S ACCUSING THE MAYOR OF VIOLATING OUR CITY CHARTER. THIS IS SLANDER. THERE'S CURRENTLY LEADERSHIP IN PLACE. DAVID LOPEZ AND AMY GARCIA RESIGNED. PLEASE REMOVE HER FROM THE COMMITTEE IMMEDIATELY. WE CANNOT ALLOW THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR TO CONTINUE COUNCIL TO ADDRESS A RUMOR. YES. ALL THREE OF THE SPLASH PADS ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED. AND NO, IT'S NOT DUE TO STAFF REDUCTION AT PARKS AND REC. DAVID LOPEZ WAS WITH THE CITY FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. THE SPLASH PAD HAS BEEN INOPERABLE FOR ABOUT A YEAR. ALL THREE OF THE SPLASH PADS ARE ABOUT TWO YEARS OLD. THE FACT THAT THEY'RE CLOSED IS NOT THE FAULT OF OUR BOOTS ON THE GROUND EMPLOYEES. IT'S A MANAGEMENT ISSUE, AS IS THE CASE. AS IN THE CASE SO MANY TIMES, OUR CITY DOES NOT MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE. THIS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. PLEASE, COUNCIL, GO TOGETHER. GO TO BUDA CITY PARK AS A GROUP. TAKE A COMPLETE LOOK AT THEIR FACILITIES. THEY APPEAR TO BE LOW MAINTENANCE AND THEY'RE ALWAYS FULL OF PEOPLE. ITEM NUMBER 11 SECURITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. THIS IS UNNECESSARY AND EXPENSIVE. YOU CANNOT COMPARE OUR CITY'S NEEDS TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S NEEDS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THESE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORTH, YOU WILL BE PROTECTED. WE WON'T BE PROTECTED. THEY WON'T BE PROTECTED. RULES OF COUNCIL. 
          PLEASE DON'T HAMSTRING THE MANAGER. THAT'S ITEM 18, THE MAYOR'S GREATER INFLUENCE BECAUSE SHE SETS PRIORITIES, PROPOSES INITIATIVES AND HELPS SHAPE AGENDAS. THE MAYOR'S ELECTED LEADER AND PRESIDING OFFICER AND A FORENSIC AUDIT. THERE WAS A LOT OF CREDIT CARD ABUSE. THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WE WANT TO FORENSIC AUDIT, NOT SIMPLY FOR A CREDIT CARD ABUSE, BUT DURING THAT TIME, WE HAD A $125 A NIGHT ALLOWANCE FOR HOTELS. ONE MEMBER OF COUNCIL THAT'S SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW SPENT $1,200 ON ONE HOTEL NIGHT, AND THE ADDITIONAL NIGHTS WERE $600 A NIGHT. WE ASKED FOR REIMBURSEMENT BACK FOR THOSE CHARGES. THAT NEVER HAPPENED. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WE WANT THIS AUDIT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO MORE FORMS. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK BEFORE I CLOSE? CITIZENS COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE CITIZENS COMMENTS. WE'RE 
          [II) Approval of Minutes]
GOING TO GO BACK UP TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL JUNE 2ND, 2026 MEETING MINUTES AND THE REGULAR JUNE 2ND, 2026 MEETING MINUTES. SECOND. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION BY 
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COUNCILMEMBER ADINA AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. 
          OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION PASSES, 6 TO 0. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT, WE HAVE AGENDA ORDER. I'VE HEARD 
          [IV) Agenda Order]
ITEMS 18 AND 19 BE PULLED UP. THAT WILL GO UNDER CONSENT. IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR, ARE WE GOING TO TABLE NUMBER EIGHT? NUMBER 18 BECAUSE OF MICHAEL TOBY'S BEING OUT? OH YES. I DID WANT TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THAT. DO WE WANT TO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, OUT OF RESPECT. OKAY. SO YES, IF WE CAN. MR. MOHIT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TABLE AGENDA ITEM 18 UNTIL WE CAN HAVE A FULL COUNCIL. HOPEFULLY NEXT TIME. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE UP AGENDA ITEM 19. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT TABLING. OH YES. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING BACK AGENDA ITEM 18 ON THE NEXT AGENDA. SECOND. OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY MYSELF A SECOND BY GOSA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I OPPOSED I. OKAY. MOTION PASSES 6 TO 1. I MEAN SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE 
          [V) Consent Agenda]
ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL? I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON IT. ALL RIGHT. DO WE WANT TO ASK THAT AND THEN AND THEN OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO PULL IT COMPLETELY, OR CAN WE PUT IT AND THEN APPROVE THEM ALL? IF THERE'S A IF THERE'S A LIKE A, MAYBE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO APPROVE IT, THEN I'LL JUST PULL IT SEPARATELY. IT MIGHT NEED A MINOR. OKAY. OKAY. THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM. 356789. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS THREE, FIVE, SIX SEVEN AND EIGHT NINE SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER. GOSA ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. 
          [VI) Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. AGENDA ITEM FOUR. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER 260104 TO HDR ENGINEERING, INC. FOR DESIGN SERVICES, BID SUPPORT AND CONSTRUCTION SUPPORT FOR THE POST OAK LANGLEY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $189,632 ITEM PRESENTER LOSANG. 
          AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A MOMENT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU RAN AGAIN, BUT I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE THE TASK ORDER ITSELF. I WAS REVIEWING IT AND UNDER THE I'M TRYING TO IT'S ON UNDER THE DELIVERABLES, UNDER TASK THREE AT THE 60% SUBMITTAL RANGE. THERE IS A PART ON THERE, SECTION NINE, WHICH IS ABOUT DRAINAGE PLANS, AND I. I GUESS I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO MISUNDERSTAND IT, BUT UNDER THE DRAINAGE PLANS, AS WE ARE FIXING THESE STREETS, IT SAYS NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN DITCH DEPTH OR PROFILE PROPOSED TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO UTILITIES. NO HYDRAULIC STUDY WILL BE PERFORMED. CONTOURS WILL BE UTILIZED TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS OF SIDEWALK BRIDGES. MINOR GRADING WITHIN RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE PERFORMED TO AID IN DIRECTING FLOW FROM POVERTIES TO SIDEWALK BRIDGE LOCATIONS OR CONTOURS OR CROSS SECTIONS WILL BE PROVIDED TO ADEQUATELY DESCRIBE GRADING GEOMETRY FOR CONSTRUCTION. CAN I JUST GET SOME CLARITY ON WHAT IT MEANS BY THE. I GUESS AT LEAST IN THE BEGINNING, THE. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN DIP, DITCH DEPTH OR PROFILE PROPOSED. THAT IS, A TONGUE TWISTER OR PROFILE PROPOSED TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO UTILITIES. YEAH. SO ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A CROSS-SECTION OR TAKE A LOOK AT THE CROSS SECTION OF THE ROADWAY ITSELF. AND IF WE CHANGE THE GRADE EITHER LONGITUDINALLY OR CROSS-SECTIONALLY, THERE'S A HUGE IMPACT ON DRAINAGE. AND CURRENTLY ON LANGLEY STREET, THERE ARE TWO INLETS AT EITHER END OF THE STREET. SO THE STREET ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE ANY STORM SEWERS BECAUSE THE STORM SEWER IS IN THE BACK. IT'S LIKE AN OPEN DITCH. SO WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF THAT. WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IF DRAINAGE IS NEEDED, BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET WATER AWAY FROM THE STREET TO MINIMIZE IMPACT ON THE CLAY UNDERNEATH. SO IF WE HAVE TO DO FRENCH DRAIN AND OTHER TYPE OF DRAINAGE FACILITY, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IF THOSE NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED. BUT THE GOAL IS WE WILL TRY TO KEEP THE LONGITUDINAL AND THE CROSS-SECTIONAL PROFILE TO NOT CAUSE ANY DRAINAGE ISSUE. OKAY. AND FOR THE HYDRAULIC STUDY, WHAT WOULD BE AN INSTANCE, FOR 
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EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WOULD HAVE A HYDRAULIC STUDY IF WE'RE ADDING IMPERVIOUS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          PERFECT. WELL I THINK THAT CLARIFIES EVERYTHING. I THINK I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ADDRESSING DRAINAGE AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE WILL BE. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM FOUR. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. I AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU. ALL 
          [19) (Tabled 6/2/2026) Consider approval of a Resolution authorizing the Interim City Manager and/or his designee to pay a total City cost of $204,492.56 pursuant to the former City Manager Larry Bryan Langley's contract, for the payout of his allowable accrued vacation leave balance totaling 720.00 hours and accrued sick leave balance totaling 305.43 hours as of May 23, 2026. ]
RIGHT. UP NEXT WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP AGENDA ITEM 19. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND OR HIS DESIGNEE TO PAY A TOTAL CITY COST OF $204,492.56. PURSUANT TO THE FORMER CITY MANAGER BRIAN LANGLEY'S CONTRACT FOR THE PAYOUT OF HIS ALLOWABLE ACCRUED VACATION LEAVE BALANCE TOTALING 720 HOURS AND ACCRUED SICK LEAVE BALANCE TOTALING 305.43 HOURS AS OF MAY 23RD, 2026. ITEM PRESENTER PEREZ, MOHIT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 2ND, THIS ITEM WAS BROUGHT FORWARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND DECISION. AFTER MUCH DELIBERATION, COUNCIL DECIDED TO TABLE THIS AGENDA ITEM AND DIRECTED THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL, SPECIFICALLY TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT OF THE FORMER CITY MANAGER AND BETWEEN THE FORMER CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY OF KYLE. I DID JUST THAT. 
          SO TODAY I WILL INTRODUCE TO YOU MR. FRANK GARZA, WHO IS WITH THE LAW FIRM OF DAVIDSON TROYER AND GARZA. HE WILL PRESENT HIS EVALUATION, HIS ASSESSMENT AND HIS LEGAL OPINION. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. GARZA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PEREZ. AGAIN, MY NAME IS FRANK GARZA AND WITH THE FIRM OF DAVIDSON, TRILLO AND GARZA. AND GLAD TO BE BACK HERE IN KYLE. THE PRESENTATION IS BEFORE YOU. AND SO I'LL START OFF WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY ENTERED INTO AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH LARRY BRIAN LANGLEY AS CITY MANAGER IN APRIL OF 2023. THE SECTION 13 OF THE AGREEMENT PROVIDED THE MANAGER WITH 80 HOURS OF VACATION LEAVE AND 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE. THIS IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE WHEN A CITY MANAGER IS COMING FROM ANOTHER CITY, STARTING WITH A NEW EMPLOYER, A NEW CITY, AND HAS NO VACATION OR SICK LEAVE, BUT MAY HAVE A FAMILY AND SO FORTH. 
          SO THE MOST CITIES THAT I'M AWARE OF PROVIDE SOME VACATION LEAVE AND SICK LEAVE AT THE OUTSET AT THE START OF THEIR CONTRACT. SO THEY DO HAVE SOME LEAVE IF NEEDED. SECTION 1718. 
          YEAH. 17 OF THE AGREEMENT STATES THAT IF THE MANAGER WAS TERMINATED WITHOUT CAUSE, HE WOULD RECEIVE A SEVERANCE OF 12 MONTHS OF BASE SALARY AND THE VALUE OF ALL LEAVE ACCRUED. ON JUNE 20TH OF 2025, GOVERNOR ABBOTT SIGNED SENATE BILL 2237, WHICH WAS IN YOUR SENATE, WHICH IS NOW IN THE ONE CHAPTER 180 OF YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. IT LIMITS SEVERANCE PAY TO EXECUTIVES OF POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS TO NO MORE THAN 20 WEEKS, FIVE MONTHS, EXCLUDING PAID TIME OFF FOR ACCRUED VACATION LEAVE ON JULY 16TH, 2025, COUNCIL HAD A CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND THIS SPECIFIC EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS TO DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY, INCLUDING DISCUSSIONS OF POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO THOSE AGREEMENTS WITH POSSIBLE DISCUSSION AND ACTION IN OPEN SESSION. COUNCIL CAME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND MAYOR MITCHELL, FORMER MAYOR MITCHELL MOVED TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY CONTRACT TO AMEND THE SEVENTH PROVISIONS BASED ON THE CHANGES OF STATE LAW, EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, AND TO MAKE OTHER AMENDMENTS TO KEEP THE EMPLOYEES WHOLE. WITH SUCH AMENDMENTS IN FINAL FORM, REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY A CONTRACT ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. THAT CONTRACT ATTORNEY WAS NOT MY FIRM. IT WAS ANOTHER FIRM THAT REVIEWED THAT FINAL CONTRACT. ON AUGUST 1ST, THE CITY AND THE MANAGER AGREED TO AMEND THEIR CONTRACT, WHICH WAS AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. 
          AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE DID NOT PLAY ANY PORTION DEALING WITH LEAVE OR TERMINATION BALANCES. 
          ONLY THE CONTRACT AND AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ARE RELEVANT IN THIS CASE, THAT AMENDMENT INCREASED 
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THE BASE SALARY OF THE MANAGER FROM 298,000 TO 330,095. IT INCREASED HIS VACATION FROM 80 HOURS TO 1360. IT ALLOWED THE MANAGER TO ACCRUE UNLIMITED VACATION LEAVE, BUT ONLY BE PAID UP TO 2000 IF TERMINATED. IT DID REDUCE SEVERANCE FROM 12 MONTHS TO 20 WEEKS, AS IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW. IT ADDED LANGUAGE IN THE AMENDMENT THAT IF THE MANAGER TERMINATES THE AGREEMENT, HE IS TO BE PAID VACATION LEAVE OF UP TO 720 HOURS OR MAXIMUM ALLOWED, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. THE MANAGER RESIGNED EFFECTIVE MAY 15TH, 2026. SO I HAD THE FOLLOWING THREE QUESTIONS ASKED FOR ME TO TO RESPOND. IS THE CITY OBLIGATED TO PAY THE PROPOSED CALCULATIONS AND PAYOUT OF THE VACATION AND SICK LEAVE BALANCES, AND STILL COMPLY WITH SECTION 180 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE? THAT'S SENATE BILL 2433, IS CODIFIED IN 180. SHOULD THE FORMER MANAGER RECEIVE A PAYOUT FOR VACATION, LEAVE IN EXCESS OF HIS EARNED OR ACCRUED BALANCE UPON HIS RESIGNATION, WHEN THE CITY INTENDED THAT EXCESS AMOUNT TO BE PROVIDED ONLY AS A SEVERANCE BENEFIT IN THE EVENT OF TERMINATION WITHOUT CAUSE, AND THAT THE CITY COMPLY WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT WHEN IT VOTED TO APPROVE THE MANAGER'S AMENDMENT. STATE LAW STATES A REQUIREMENT THAT SEVERANCE PAY AND THIS IS THE PROVISION IN 180, A REQUIREMENT THAT SEVERANCE PAY THAT IS PAID FROM TAX REVENUE MAY NOT EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF COMPENSATION AT THE RATE AT THE TERMINATION OF EMPLOYMENT, THE EXECUTIVE EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE BEEN PAID FOR 20 WEEKS, EXCLUDING PAID TIME MORE FOR ACCRUED VACATION. 
          LEAVE. CITY COMPLIED WITH STATE LAW BY REDUCING SEVERANCE FROM 12 MONTHS TO 20 WEEKS, BUT THE CONTRACT AT ISSUE BEFORE US IS REALLY NOT DEALING WITH SEVERANCE. YOUR MANAGER WAS NOT TERMINATED. HE RESIGNED. SO THE SEVERANCE PROVISION DOES NOT COME INTO PLAY. SO THE CONTRACT, THE ANALYSIS ON THE SICK LEAVE, THE CONTRACT AND AMENDMENTS DO NOT PROVIDE FOR A MAXIMUM HOUR CAP ON SICK LEAVE. JUST VACATION LEAVE. THEREFORE, THE 305.43 HOURS OF ACCRUED SICK LEAVE EARNED BY THE MANAGER DURING THE TERM OF HIS EMPLOYMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CONTRACT AND SHOULD BE PAID OUT. STATE LAW THAT LIMITS SEVERANCE DOES NOT APPLY TO ACCRUED LEAVE. NOW, EARLIER WE HEARD COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS ABOUT THE PUP, YOUR POLICY, YOUR PERSONNEL POLICY THAT SAYS YOU GET SICK LEAVE PAID OUT UPON FIVE YEARS WITH THE CITY. 
          THAT IS BY ORDINANCE. IT IS NOT IN YOUR CHARTER BY ORDINANCE. OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL, WHICH CAN BE REVISED BY THE COUNCIL. THE CITY COUNCIL THAT APPROVED THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AND THE AMENDMENT TO HIS CONTRACT STATED THAT HE WOULD BE PAID HIS SICK LEAVE EVEN IF HE WERE TO RESIGN. IT STATES IN THE EVENT OF RESIGNATION OR RETIREMENT, MANAGER WILL BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION FOR ACCRUED LEAVE AND OTHER BENEFITS ON THE SAME BASIS AS ANY OTHER FULL TIME EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY, EXCEPT THAT ALL ACCRUED VACATION AND SICK LEAVE WILL BE PAID OUT AND WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO MAXIMUM HOURS FOR PAYOUT CAPS. SO, PER THE CONTRACT AND PER THE AMENDMENT, SICK LEAVE WAS NOT ANY ACCRUED SICK LEAVE, EVEN IF HE WERE TO RESIGN, WAS TO BE PAID OUT. SO IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE 305 HOURS SHOULD BE PAID. NOW, THE ANALYSIS ON VACATION TO MAKE THE FOREIGN MANAGER HOLD THE CITY ADDED THAT THE MANAGER WAS ELIGIBLE TO BE PAID AS SEVERANCE, AS SEVERANCE ACCRUED VACATION LEAVE OF UP TO 2000 HOURS OF TERMINATED. THE CONTRACT STATES THE CITY WILL NOT BE OBLIGATED TO PAY THE SEVERANCE PAYMENT, INCLUDING PAYMENT OF LEAVE, OVER THE MAXIMUM HOURS FOR PAYOUT CAPS PURSUANT TO THE CITY'S PERSONNEL POLICY. IF THE MANAGER VOLUNTARILY RESIGNED. AS WE ALL KNOW, THE MANAGER VOLUNTARILY RESIGNED. THE LEAVE IN QUESTION IS NOT SEVERANCE SINCE HE WAS NOT TERMINATED. AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO ALSO AMENDED THE MANAGER'S CONTRACT. IF HE RESIGNED. THE AMENDMENT ADDED LANGUAGE THAT IF THE 
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MANAGER TERMINATES THE AGREEMENT, HE IS TO BE PAID VACATION LEAVE OF UP TO 720 HOURS. BUT WHEN YOU READ THE ENTIRE SECTION, HIS RESIGNATION SECTION, THAT PARAGRAPH, WHEN YOU READ THE ENTIRE SECTION, WHICH IS E IN THE AMENDMENT, IT IS CLEAR IN MY OPINION, THAT IT WAS THE CITY'S INTENT TO ONLY PAY FOR THE ACCRUED LEAVE. THERE IS NOTHING IN THE RECORD AS TO WHY THE VACATION LEAVE PROVISION WAS AMENDED. THE INTENT WAS TO ONLY AMEND THE SEVERANCE, BUT THEY DID AMEND THE PROVISION DEALING WITH THE RESIGNATION. AND THIS IS THE LANGUAGE IT STATES IN THE EVENT OF RESIGNATION OR RETIREMENT, MANAGER WILL BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION FOR ACCRUED LEAVE, EXCEPT THAT ACCRUED VACATION AND SICK LEAVE WILL BE PAID OUT AND WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO MAXIMUM HOURS FOR PAYOUT CAPS, EXCEPT THAT VACATION WILL BE LIMITED TO 720 HOURS OF THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT ALLOWED BY CITY POLICY, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. 
          SO IF YOU JUST READ THE LAST PART, EXCEPT THAT VACATION LEAVE WILL BE LIMITED TO 720 HOURS, YOU SEE WHERE THE ARGUMENT IS, WHERE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PAY THE 720. BUT IF YOU READ THE ENTIRE SECTION, THE MANAGER WILL BE UPON RESIGNATION OR RETIREMENT MANAGER WILL BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION FOR ACCRUED LEAVE, EXCEPT THAT ACCRUED LEAVE AND SICK LEAVE WILL BE PAID OUT AND WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE MAXIMUM HOURS AND SO FORTH. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE CITY'S INTENT WAS TO MAKE A SEVERANCE HOLE. IF THE MANAGER WAS TERMINATED. BECAUSE IT DID INCREASE HIS VACATION FROM 80 HOURS TO 1360, WITH A POSSIBLE PAYOUT. BUT THE RESIGNATION PAYOUT IS NOT A VIOLATION OF THE STATE LAW. AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S NOT SEPARATE, AND IT DID LIMIT IT TO ACCRUED LEAVE. THERE IS NO RECORD. THE COUNCIL VIEWED THE CONTRACT BEFORE IT WAS EXECUTED BY THE MAYOR. THE LANGUAGE IN AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO COULD HAVE BEEN CLEAR THAT THE VACATION LEAVE PAYOUT WAS FOR ONLY ACCRUED LEAVE. WHEN READING THE RESIGNATION SECTION AGAIN AS A WHOLE, IT IS CLEAR THE INTENT OF COUNCIL IS ONLY TO PAY FOR THE ACCRUED VACATION AND SICK LEAVE. THEREFORE, IN MY OPINION, THE CITY IS ONLY LEGALLY REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THE ACCRUED VACATION AND SICK LEAVE AND NOTHING MORE. THE OTHER QUESTION I WAS ASKED WAS ABOUT THE OPEN MEETINGS THE CITY DID DID COMPLY WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT WHEN IT VOTED TO APPROVE THE MANAGER'S AMENDMENT ON JULY 16TH. THE CAPTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THAT DATE WAS SPECIFIC THAT THE MANAGER'S CONTRACT WOULD BE DISCUSSED AND AMENDMENTS WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN OPEN SESSION. THE COUNCIL RECONVENED IN OPEN SESSION AND TOOK ACTION WHEN IT VOTED TO APPROVE THE MANAGER'S AMENDMENT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE SUCH AMENDMENT. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO PAY THE MANAGER THE SICK LEAVE AND VACATION LEAVE HE ACCRUED, SINCE THE INTENT AND LANGUAGE OF THE AMENDMENT MADE HIM WHOLE, IF TERMINATED AND NOTHING MORE, THE MANAGER MAY MAKE A CLAIM, BUT IN MY POSITION, IN MY OPINION, THE CITY IS IN GOOD LEGAL POSITION TO DEFEND ITS POSITION TO ONLY PAY FOR THE SICK AND VACATION LEAVE ACCRUED AND NOTHING MORE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM DISTRICT ONE ALL THE WAY DOWN. 
          SO GO AHEAD. I HAD MORE OF A COMMENT BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS THERE AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LEAVE CALCULATION SHEET ON PAGE FOUR, THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT PER CONTRACT TO ADD ANOTHER 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS UNEARNED AND SHOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THAT BALANCE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT. ARE YOU REFERRING TO 315 2025? I AM REFERRING TO PAGE FOUR OF THE LEAVE BALANCE SHEET, WHICH DATE IT IS 817, 25. SO IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN HALFWAY DOWN. SO WE CAN SEE THAT THE SICK LEAVE BALANCE JUMPS FROM 181 HOURS UP TO 221 HOURS. WHEN THAT 40 IS ADDED IN THE BALANCE WITHOUT CONTRACT. SO YOU'RE SAYING IT 
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WAS NOT LIKE. SO THE BALANCE AND THE BALANCE WITHOUT CONTRACT ARE THE SAME. AND YOU'RE SAYING THE BALANCE WITHOUT CONTRACT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 40 LESS. CORRECT. I WILL POINT OUT THAT UNDER THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS APPROVED, IT DOES SAY ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AMENDMENT MANAGER'S LEAVE ACCRUAL, BANKS WILL BE CREDITED AGAIN WITH THE 1280 ADDITIONAL HOURS OF VACATION LEAVE, FOR A TOTAL OF 1360 HOURS OF CREDIT VACATION LEAVE AND 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE. SO THE AMENDMENT DID AUTHORIZE THAT ADDITIONAL 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE AS CREDITED LEAVE? YES, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SO IS IT ACCRUED OR ACCREDITED? BECAUSE WE WANT CREDIT. IT WAS NOT ACCRUED. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S CREDITED WHAT THEY DEFINED THE LEAVE THEY GAVE THEM INITIALLY UPON HIRING AS CREDIT LEAVE. AND THEN WHEN THEY ADDED IT FROM 80, WHEN THEY WENT FROM 80 TO 1360 AND ADDED THE ADDITIONAL 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE, THEY CALLED IT ALL CREDITED. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WAS NOT ACCRUED. NOT ACCRUED. 
          CORRECT. SO DO I THINK YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT AS TO WHY TO DEDUCT THAT 40 HOURS? OKAY. WE NEED WE PROBABLY NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE PAY HIM IS, IS ACTUAL IS WE SAY WHEN WE SAY ACCREDITED, WE MEAN EARNED, EARNED, ACCRUED. WHEN I SAY ACCRUED, ACCRUED, EARNED. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THERE'S A CREDIT AND THAT'S GIVEN TO THEM. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF FROWNED ON BY THE STATE. IN FACT, SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT HOW IT'S A GIFT. 
          AND WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT TOO. AND YOU'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWED TO DO THAT AS A CITY. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE PAY OUT IS EARNED. BUT LET ME CLARIFY, WHEN AN EMPLOYEE IS BEING HIRED, INITIALLY, IT IS VERY COMMON TO CREDIT LEAVE FROM THE VERY OUTSET AS PART OF THE COMPENSATION TO BRING THEM TO COME TO CITY SO THAT THEY HAVE SOME LEAVE UPON STARTING. IN MY OPINION, THAT'S NOT A GIFT, THAT'S CONSIDERATION FOR THEM TO TAKE THE JOB AND SO FORTH. YEAH. SO I WOULD SAY INITIALLY THE CREDIT LEAVE IS PART OF THE COMPENSATION TO ATTRACT THAT INDIVIDUAL TO COME WITH THE AMENDMENT. YOU'RE RIGHT. I, I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING THE SAME. YES, THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE WE WERE WE WERE GOOD ON THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT WAS GRANTED. BUT IT DID LOOK LIKE THERE WAS THAT SECOND 40 HOURS THAT WAS PART OF THE CREDITED LEAVE UNDER THAT AMENDMENT. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE SHOULD BE DEDUCTED OUT. SO THE FINAL FOR SICK WOULD BE 26543. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. CAN YOU POINT OUT WHICH DATE THAT WAS? AGAIN, SORRY, I'M LIKE THE IT'S ALSO REALLY TINY. 1725 AND THAT'S THAT WAS AFTER HIS AMENDMENT RIGHT. THAT THAT WAS AS A RESULT OF THE AMENDMENT. 
          OKAY. THE ADJUSTMENT SAYS PER CONTRACT, RIGHT. THE DATE OF THE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IS DATED AUGUST 1ST, 2025. IT WAS EXECUTED BY THE MAYOR, FORMER MAYOR MITCHELL, AND THE CITY MANAGER, FORMER CITY MANAGER. ON AUGUST 12TH. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IT WAS CREDITED ON AUGUST 17TH? OKAY. OKAY. SO. HOW DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? I THINK THAT'S YOU WANT TO DEDUCT IT? YEAH, THAT'S A CONVERSATION I WOULD LIKE TO YOU, BUT I WANT TO I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THOUGH, IS THAT IT SHOULD BE DEDUCTED BASED ON THE FACT THAT THAT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 40 HOURS CREDITED PURSUANT TO THE CONTRACT. RIGHT. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY. MY APOLOGIES FOR MY CONNECTION. I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN OUT HERE, BUT IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, HIS INITIAL VERBAL PROMISE OR INITIAL WRITTEN PROMISE WAS FOR THE 120 HOURS. 
          AND AFTER HE GOT HERE, IT WAS CHANGED TO 80 AND HE ASKED US TO PUT IT BACK TO THE THE 120 SO THAT THAT PART WE WERE AWARE OF WHAT WE WERE DOING. AND I FEEL LIKE. WHILE I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE THE ARGUMENT, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HONOR THE ADDITIONAL 40 THAT WAS THAT WAS DONE ON THAT AUGUST DATE. OKAY. WELL, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THERE'S NOTHING THAT BACKS UP WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS AGENDA INFORMATION. SO WE KIND OF HAVE I DO, I'LL SPEAK UP FOR MYSELF. MY HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE SO LITTLE WAS DONE IN OPEN SESSION, INCLUDING PROVIDING THE RESIDENTS THE CONTRACT OR THE ABILITY TO SPEAK ON HOW THEY FELT. THIS CONTRACT WAS EDITED. AND SO AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF 60,000 PEOPLE, I HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR 
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THEIR BEST INTEREST. MY LOYALTY, ALTHOUGH I DO LOVE MY STAFF, LIES PRIMARILY WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I SPEAK FOR. AND SO WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS DISCUSSED, AND MAYBE WE BRING THIS BACK AGAIN AND WE BRING THE NIGHT OFF, WAS IT? I NEED TO CONFIRM, FIRST OF ALL, WAS IT THE NIGHT LAW FIRM THAT DID THIS CONTRACT? YES. THE NIGHT LAW FIRM REVIEWED THE CONTRACT. IRENE MONTELONGO LONGO CAME AND MET WITH COUNCIL AND EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THAT DATE IN JULY, AND SHE AND PAGE SIGNS TOGETHER REVIEWED THE CONTRACT. I DO BELIEVE THAT COPIES OF THE CONTRACT WERE BROUGHT TO THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I LEFT THE ROOM WHEN THEY WERE SPEAKING TO IRENE. OKAY. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE NO REAL CONFIRMATION OTHER WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY AND HARRIS THAT WERE THERE. SO I DO VALUE YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOUR WORDS, BUT I, I AM PERSONALLY LIMITED ON TO THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PRESENTED. AND THE RESOLUTION SIMPLY STATES THIS WAS TO MAKE HOLE FOR SEVERANCE. THE MOTION DIDN'T EVEN INCLUDE THE RAISE CAN. CAN YOU ATTEST, SINCE YOU WERE PART OF THE COUNCIL THAT APPROVED HIS INITIAL CONTRACT, HOW MUCH? LEAVE WAS INITIALLY GRANTED WHEN HE WAS INITIALLY HIRED? YEAH, IT WAS WHATEVER IS IN HIS CONTRACT. I THINK IT WAS LIKE 180 HOURS AND THEN 40 HOURS VACATION, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT'S IN QUESTION HERE, THAT WHAT'S IN QUESTION IS THE AMENDMENT FOR THE PAYOUT. AND THE PAYOUT IS NOW A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RESIGNATION AND TERMINATION. AND THAT IN THAT LIES ACCRUED OR EARNED AND UNEARNED VACATION. AND WHAT WE FEEL COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL IS OWED TO THE FORMER CITY MANAGER. IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION HE DID, THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT SAYS ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AGREEMENT MANAGER'S LEAVE ACCRUAL BANKS WILL BE CREDITED WITH 80 HOURS OF VACATION, EVEN 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE. AND THEN THAT'S WHAT WAS CALLED THE CREDIT LEAVE. SO THAT'S WHAT HE RECEIVED AT THE OUTSET. AND THAT WASN'T EVEN EARNED. THAT WAS CREDITED CREDIT. THAT'S CORRECT. MAYOR, IF I CAN ADDRESS THE SALARY JUST BECAUSE THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH MY CONTRACT, AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IT FOR THE PUBLIC, THE CHANGE TO THE SALARY AND THE AMENDMENT WAS JUST TO TRUE IT UP TO THE SALARY ON THE DATE OF THE AMENDMENT THAT THE RAISES HAD. THE RAISE HAD ALREADY COME THROUGH PREVIOUSLY. IT WAS JUST SO THAT WHEN WE WERE APPROVING IT, IT HAD THE CORRECT NUMBER. OKAY. PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD IDEA TO PUT THAT INTO MOTION, JUST TO BE CONSISTENT, BECAUSE NOW THIS IS A SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA. YEAH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY QUESTION THEN IS THAT EXTRA 40 HOURS OF CREDITED NOT BEING ACCRUED? AND THE LANGUAGE AND THE AMENDMENT DOES SPECIFICALLY STATE ACCRUED SICK LEAVE BALANCE. WE ALREADY KNOW IT STATES THE ACCRUED VACATION BALANCE. SO THAT WOULD BE THAT QUESTION. WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT 40 HOURS. OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA, I GUESS SAME QUESTION. IT'S I THINK, REALLY DIFFICULT TO DISCERN. I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE THE LEAVE BALANCE SHEET, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO READ. AND I THINK THAT ALSO LEADS TO LIKE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I THINK MY, MY ONE QUESTION WOULD BE, I KNOW THAT WE'RE PUT ON NOTICE AND WE GOT A FOLLOW UP ABOUT IT. WHAT TIMELINE DO WE HAVE? DO WE THINK BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS? ACTUALLY WHO RECEIVED. BECAUSE I GUESS THERE'S BEEN CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE ATTORNEY FOR THE FORMER CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY, BUT I DON'T I GUESS I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT. LIKE, WHAT DID THEY SAY? SO THE FORMER CITY MANAGER'S LEGAL REPRESENTATION CONTACTED BY EMAIL, OUR CITY ATTORNEY. SO I CAN REQUEST THAT CITY ATTORNEY ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT. CAN WE MOVING FORWARD? CAN WE PLEASE BE VERY SPECIFIC THAT THAT NEEDS TO COME THROUGH YOU ONLY DUE TO WHAT I FEEL MAY BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THEIR SIMILAR CONTRACTS. AND THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT ON YOU. THAT'S I FEEL LIKE AS AN ATTORNEY, SHE'S AWARE OF THIS CONFLICT AND SHE SHOULD BE REACHING OUT DIRECTLY TO OUR CITY MANAGER. THERE IS A FORMAL PROCESS THAT MOST ATTORNEYS ARE AWARE. WHEN YOU PRESENT A NOTICE, IT GOES TO THE PRIMARY OFFICIAL, WHICH IS THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT. THE 
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IN RESPECT FOR THE ATTORNEY AS AN ATTORNEY, IF I KNOW THAT A PARTY IS REPRESENTED, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE MANAGER. I HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE ATTORNEY. AND SO SHE HAS THE SAME RULES THAT APPLY TO HER. I DID TELL HER THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD GET OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR IF IT PROCEEDED. I HAVE NOT PUT HER IN CONTACT WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS. AND I WILL NOTE THAT THE CONTRACT DOES HAVE A CLEAR LOCATION TO SEND DEMAND NOTICES TO. MINE DOES AS WELL. OKAY. WELL, WE WE RETAINED AN ATTORNEY LAST MEETING. SO ANY TIME BETWEEN THAT LAST MEETING AND ANY CONTACT MADE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT LEAST SENT TO THAT ATTORNEY. SO IF MINIMUM AND HE'S RIGHT, THERE IS THERE IS AN ORDER AND IT USUALLY IS THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER. AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE TO SAY THAT FOR TITLE, BUT I, I REMEMBER HOW IT ALL PROCESSED THROUGH WHEN WE HAD LEGAL ISSUES. AND THAT IS USUALLY THE PROPER. THE NOTICE PROVISION IN THE CONTRACT SPECIFIES THAT ALL NOTICES AND DEMAND SHOULD BE SENT TO THE MAYOR AT CITY HALL. OKAY, SO. 
          SO IF YOU WOULD KINDLY TELL US WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PORTRAY FOR BRIAN LANGLEY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE EMAIL WAS PROVIDED TO MR. GARZA. I WAS ON VACATION WHEN IT CAME THROUGH, SO I HAD NOT RESPONDED TO IT. WHEN I SAW IT. I FORWARDED IT TO PERVEZ AND AMBER, AND I HAVE TOLD HER THAT I WOULD NOT BE HANDLING THIS BECAUSE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL. 
          SHE SENT THE EMAIL AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE. FIRST SHE CALLED ME. IT WAS A COLD CALL. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS. I ASKED HER TO SEND ME INFORMATION BY EMAIL SO THAT I COULD GET IT TO THE TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED. I SENT IT TO COUNSEL. I SENT IT TO TO MR. MOHIT. I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE AND SHE HAS SINCE. SHE SINCE FOLLOWED UP WHILE I WAS ON VACATION. I HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO THAT EMAIL EITHER. I FORWARDED IT TO PERVEZ. THE. 
          THE CONTRACT DOES PROVIDE FOR MEDIATION UPON DEMAND AND THEN I SPECIFIED EARLIER. THE DEMAND NOTICES HAVE A LOCATION THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SENT TO. OKAY. THE EMAIL WAS FORWARDED TO ME TODAY FOR THE RECORD. THAT LAST EMAIL THAT WAS FORWARDED TO ME BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY. I DID IN FACT, FORWARD TO EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION WAS THEN. WELL, THEN, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? I GUESS, FOR LIKE THE POTENTIAL NEXT STEP? AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT I FEEL LIKE, AMY, YOU'RE STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE OTHER ATTORNEY IS THE ONE THAT LOOPED YOU IN. YOU DIDN'T REACH OUT. AND YOU'RE ALSO VERY MUCH SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, HAVE BEEN VERY CLEARLY STATING LIKE, HEY, MY CONTRACT IS SIMILAR. AND SO THEREFORE I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE IT'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU BEING STUCK BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE IN THIS. AND I WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE HIRING OF MR. GARZA. MR. MOHIT HANDLED ALL OF THAT. AND SO I ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO FORWARD IT TO OUTSIDE COUNSEL BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHO IT WAS. AND THEN CAN I GET CLARIFICATION TOO, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HIRED MR. GARZA ON A RETAINER IN THE EVENT THAT WE GOT. I HAVE NOT BEEN HIRED FOR THAT. I'VE ONLY BEEN HIRED TO DO THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CONTRACT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. BECAUSE I THINK AND I THINK THERE WAS JUST A COMMENT MADE AND I WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HIRED HIM ON RETAINER. I WAS I DIDN'T SAY RETAINER AT ALL. NO, BUT BUT HE WAS HIRED TO DO THIS ANALYSIS FOR US. CORRECT. AND THAT WAS BASED ON A MOTION THAT WE ALL APPROVED. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THE ATTORNEY, THE EMAIL WAS FORWARDED TO ME TODAY, AND THE ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE FORMER CITY MANAGER SIMPLY REQUESTING THAT UNDER THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT, CALLS FOR MEDIATION, IF THERE'S A DISPUTE AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT MEDIATION TO OCCUR BECAUSE OF THE DISPUTE. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THAT THEY'RE MAKING THE CLAIM FOR THE 720 AND THE 306 HOURS. BUT THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT MEDIATION AS A RESULT OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT THAT SAYS IF THERE'S ANY DISPUTE, THERE WILL BE A MEDIATION. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR ATTORNEY. IF YOU'RE I THINK, GOING INTO MEDIATION, IF THEY HAVE A CONTEST TO. WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THE WAY TO GO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO COURT. WE'RE GOING TO MEDIATION. BIG DIFFERENCE IN THAT. OKAY. MY SUGGESTION IS GOING TO BE TO PAY HIM WHAT WE THINK HE HE HAS EARNED THE ACCRUED, THE ACCRUED. AND THEN AND THEN IF IN MEDIATION, YOU COULD DO MEDIATION FOR THE REST OF IT. WE'RE NOT DENYING THE PAYMENT OUT FLAT RATE. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE EVALUATING WHAT WE BELIEVE THROUGH THE 
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RESOLUTION, WHICH DESCRIBES THE INTENT THROUGH THE MOTION AND THROUGH WATCHING THE MEETING. 
          WHAT WE BELIEVE THE OVERALL GOAL WAS. AND SO I DON'T MIND PAYING HIM WHAT I FEEL LIKE WAS EARNED. I WANT TO ENSURE TO CONTINUE TO LOOK OUT FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TAXPAYERS. 
          BUT I DO BECOME A LITTLE TORN WHEN WE PAY AN $8,000 MEDIATOR, WHICH WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PAY HALF OF, AND THEN IF HE SUES THE CITY, AND THEN IT GOES UP INTO THESE BIGGER BILLS TOO. BUT PART OF THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE TO LEARN A LESSON SOMEHOW. AND THIS COULD QUITE POSSIBLY BE THE WAY WE LEARNED. OUR LESSON IS TO BATTLE IT HEAD ON. SO IS EVERYBODY. I GUESS I WANT TO GET THE FEEDBACK ON WHERE PEOPLE STAND ON THE 40 EXTRA HOURS. THAT LOOKED TO BE ADDED ON 817 AS AN ADJUSTMENT PER HIS CONTRACT. ARE YOU READY TO RACE? NO, I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE END. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. I WILL SAY THAT IT'S MY POSITION THAT THAT TIME WAS EARNED. SO THE ADJUSTMENT PER THE CONTRACT IS EARNED TIME. BECAUSE I MEAN LEGALLY BY DEFINITION IT'S NOT THAT THAT IS MY POSITION THAT HE EARNED IT. AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS GRANTED. CAN YOU READ TO ME WHAT THAT CONTRACT SAYS ABOUT THE 40 HOURS THE AMENDMENT STATES? ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AMENDMENT MANAGER'S LEAVE ACCRUAL BANKS WILL BE CREDITED WITH 1280 ADDITIONAL HOURS OF VACATION LEAVE, FOR A TOTAL OF 1360 HOURS OF CREDIT VACATION LEAVE AND 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE. SO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT GAVE HIM 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE, AND THE AMENDMENT ALSO GAVE HIM 40 HOURS OF SICK LEAVE. AND IT'S DEFINED AS CREDITED LEAVE DIFFERENT THAN THE ACCRUAL LEAVE HE EARNED WHILE AN EMPLOYEE WITH THE CITY. OKAY, FEEDBACK ON THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER GOSA I, I DON'T AGREE THAT IT'S EARNED. I THINK THAT WE GAVE HIM HOURS WHEN HE FIRST CAME ON BOARD. WE ALREADY SAW THAT THE THAT THE 80 HOURS. THAT WAS THE ADDITIONAL GIFT. 
          ALSO ON AUGUST 17TH, 2025, WAS DEDUCTED FROM THE BALANCE THAT HE HAD BECAUSE IT WAS A CONTRACT AMENDMENT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO TREAT THE SICK LEAVE THE SAME WAY. COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA. I AGREE, IF WE STICK, PER THE WORDING OF THE AMENDMENT, THIS WAS CREDITED A GIFT NOT ACCRUED AND SHOULD NOT BE PAID OUT EXTRA. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. I THINK HE SHOULD BE PAID OUT FOR THOSE 40 HOURS. I THINK THE DESCRIPTIONS THAT ARE ATTACHED IN THE LEAVE BALANCE SHEET, I MEAN, WE FOUND AN ERROR WHEN WE WERE ALL DISCUSSING IT IN TERMS OF HOW IT WAS IN THE DESCRIPTION OF HOW IT WAS CODED FOR THAT 120 HOURS ON PAGE THREE. SO THAT LETS ME KNOW THAT WE ALSO DON'T HAVE A STANDARD WAY OF CODING OR DESCRIBING THE TYPES OF LEAVE. AND SO THAT MAKES ME QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT TECHNICALLY WAS CREDITED OR EARNED, OR IF THERE WAS JUST NO OTHER WAY FOR US TO CODE IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE PROOF IN THIS DOCUMENT ITSELF THAT WE DON'T HAVE PROPER CODING TECHNIQUES. SO IT JUST MAKES ME QUESTION IT. COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER. HARRIS. I AGREE, I THINK IT'S QUESTIONABLE. I THINK OUR BEST STRATEGY IS TO PAY THAT BECAUSE IT VERY WELL COULD HAVE BEEN EARNED. THE THE BOOKING OF THAT WAS VERY INCONSISTENT, INCONSISTENT OR UNCLEAR. CAN YOU TELL ME WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF BOOKING THIS INFORMATION? SO ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, THE FORMER CITY MANAGER REORGANIZED SEVERAL CITY DEPARTMENTS AS PART OF THIS CITY REORGANIZATION THE PAYROLL FUNCTION. AND YOU'LL HEAR THAT LATER IN A DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEM, THE PAYROLL 
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FUNCTION IN ITS ENTIRETY WAS REMOVED AND TRANSFERRED OVER FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO THE THEN CALLED TALENT AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT, A NEWLY NAMED DEPARTMENT. SO FINANCE HAD NO OVERSIGHT OF PAYROLL FUNCTION FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS. WE ARE NOW HELPING THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT TO PUT BACK THE PAYROLL RESPONSIBILITIES AND FUNCTIONS AND ACTIVITIES IN THE RIGHT ORDER. AND YOU'LL HEAR THE AUDITORS TONIGHT, AND THEY WILL GO OVER THEIR RECOMMENDATION FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. AND WHO WHO CREATED THAT DEPARTMENT. SO WE USED TO HAVE A HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. SO UNDER THIS REORGANIZATION, THE FORMER CITY MANAGER IN FY 2324 RENAMED THAT DEPARTMENT TO TALENT AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASONING BEHIND IT. THAT WAS HIS DECISION AS A CITY MANAGER. 
          THAT WAS HIS PREROGATIVE UNDER CITY CHARTER. HOWEVER, AS PART OF THE REORGANIZATION, THE PAYROLL FUNCTION WAS TRANSFERRED FROM UNDER THE SUPERVISION AND CONTROL OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO THIS RENAMED HR DEPARTMENT. OKAY. I ASKED THAT BECAUSE THE FORMER CITY MANAGER CREATED THIS DEPARTMENT, IN ESSENCE, CREATING THIS KIND OF MESS OF BEING ABLE TO CODE. AND I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE REWARDING THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR. THAT'S ALMOST SETTING IT UP AS IF WE GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT IT IS EARNED OR UNEARNED, BECAUSE IN THE CONTRACT IT SAYS CREDITED AND NOT EARNED ACCRUED. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. I LIKE SIMPLICITY, SO IT DOES NOT SAY ACCRUED. I'M USING THE WORD ACCRUED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE CONTRACT TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT. I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO TO ME, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IS IT THIS OR THAT. THE CONTRACT ITSELF TELLS ME IT IS CREDITED UNEARNED TIME. THIS IS NOT A GUESSTIMATE. AND I, I, I WANTED TO SAY THIS AT THE BEGINNING AND I WISH I WOULD HAVE. WE ARE SIX PEOPLE TODAY, WHICH MEANS THIS COULD GO EITHER WAY. AND I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO PUSH OUR CITY FORWARD, TO PUSH PAST THIS. AND I'M TRYING REALLY HARD TO TRY TO LOOK AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. TO BE FAIR TO ALL OF US, AT NO WAY CAN I SAY, WELL, MAYBE THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS EARNED TIME BECAUSE THE CONTRACT IN AND OF ITSELF SAYS SPECIFICALLY IT'S CREDITED TIME. AND I CAN'T. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE BENDING ON THAT. IF IT WAS VAGUE, AS MOST OF THAT CONTRACT OR THE MOTION WAS, I COULD UNDERSTAND. BUT THAT IS VERY CUT AND DRY TO ME. CAN I? COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. I THINK I ALSO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT PAYROLL BEING AN HR FUNCTION IS VERY COMMON, ACTUALLY, AT THE STATE OF TEXAS. HHS ENTERPRISE, WHICH IS AN AGENCY THAT EMPLOYS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS, I THINK NEARLY LIKE 32 OR 40,000 EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THAT FUNCTION FALLS UNDER HR. 
          SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. YEAH. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SAYS THAT'S UNCOMMON. I THINK THE PROBLEM WAS THE SHIFT AND THEN CUTTING OFF A PORTION THAT WAS OF THE CITY FINANCE THAT HISTORICALLY HAD SOME KIND OF INPUT IN IT. AND THIS IS A FINE EXAMPLE OF MAYBE IT'S NOT FOR EVERY CITY, BECAUSE IN THIS SHORT TIME THAT WE HAD IT IN TALENT AND CULTURE, IT'S CLEARLY CREATED ISSUES. THIS, THIS IS THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NEW TODAY. THIS LEE REPORT WAS CREATED FROM THE POSITIONS CREATED BY THE FORMER CITY MANAGER. I WANT TO SAY THAT THE REAL QUICK, JUST THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR, WHEN IN REALITY, I DON'T THINK HIM MOVING PAYROLL UNDER HR, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PRETTY COMMON NECESSARILY BAD BEHAVIOR. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. THAT'S TRUE THEN THAT'S FAIR. BUT THAT WASN'T THE BAD BEHAVIOR I WAS TALKING ABOUT. THE BAD BEHAVIOR I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS NOT HAVING A GOOD CODING SYSTEM, WHICH I THINK THAT THAT WAS IMPORTANT. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY TO A NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SUPPLY THEM WITH THE WITH WHAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO DO THEIR JOB. AND LIKE YOU SAID, I AGREE, I COMPLETELY 
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AGREE THIS. I LOOKED AT THIS AND THIS WAS HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND. AND SO I'M GLAD WE WERE ALL ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK WE TALKED THROUGH A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBER GOSA POINTED OUT ANOTHER ISSUE OF ACCREDITED 40 HOURS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. BUT ALL THIS WAS DONE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE PERSON THAT WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT. AND SO I HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS FAR AS GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. SO DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS? AND I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE REAL CAREFUL WHEN WE MAKE THESE MOTIONS, BECAUSE I, I, I SEE WHERE IT'S AT. I DON'T KNOW IF MARK MCKINNEY IS GOING TO COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY IS GOING TO BE ONLINE. HE'S I GUESS IF HE'S OFF, IF HE'S NOT SHOWN, THEN HE'S NOT COUNTED HERE. YEAH. UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, HE CANNOT SPEAK OR VOTE WITHOUT BEING ON CAMERA. OKAY. SO EVERY TIME HE GOES OFF, DOES THAT LIKE COUNT HIM ABSENT GENERALLY, YES. HE'S COUNTED ABSENT WHEN HE'S OFF CAMERA. 
          OKAY. YEAH. WE JUST NEED TO BE CONSISTENT. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE VIRTUAL, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE COUNTED HERE AND PRESENT. WHEN WHEN MY CAMERA IS ON, I CANNOT SEE THE STREAM. IT GETS CHOPPY. THAT'S THE REASON I'M TURNING MY CAMERA OFF BETWEEN MY COMMENTS AND IN BETWEEN THE VOTES. NO, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY IS VERY BITTERSWEET. I JUST, I JUST WANT FOR THE RECORD, I NEED TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN YOU'RE NOT ON CAMERA, THEN YOU ARE NOT PRESENT AT THE MEETING. AND SO THAT DOES CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF A DILEMMA FOR TIME KEEPING, BECAUSE JENNIFER IS GOING TO HAVE TO SAY, WHEN YOU LEFT AND WHEN YOU CAME BACK. ALL RIGHT, ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. I THINK NOW I'M LOOKING AT IT THIS FROM LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO MEDIATION. AND SO NOW I'M THINKING ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF, ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE ALL KIND OF KNOW WHERE WE STAND, RIGHT? LIKE ON THOSE 40 HOURS. NOW I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A, OKAY, NOW WHAT'S THE STRATEGIC THING TO DO IF WE'RE HEADING INTO MEDIATION? BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. 
          AND SO LIKE, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO, FIRST OF ALL, CONTEST THE AMOUNT THAT HE'S ASKING AND LIMIT THAT NUMBER, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO SAYING, AND BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO DEDUCT FROM THAT NUMBER AS WELL THE NUMBER THAT OUR COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED TO US. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, DOES THAT GIVE HIM MORE LEVERAGE IN MEDIATION? AND LIKE, WHAT CHANCES DOES THAT SET US UP FOR? I THINK I JUST NOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE STRATEGIC ABOUT IT AND TO LIKE LIMIT ANY POTENTIAL DAMAGE OR ANY FEES WE MIGHT INCUR. AND SO I THINK, AND I THINK THAT'S WORTHY OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOING THAT. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT IT FROM A MORE STRATEGIC POINT OF VIEW. NO, I AGREE, I AGREE, IF I MAY, MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IN THAT SECTION IN THE AMENDMENT WHERE HE RESIGNED, IN MY OPINION, IT'S VERY CLEAR FOR THE POSITION THAT I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO MAKE. IT STATES, IN THE EVENT OF RESIGNATION OF RETIREMENT MANAGER WILL BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION FOR ACCRUED LEAVE, PERIOD. RIGHT THERE. THAT PHRASE RIGHT THERE, I THINK, JUSTIFIES ONLY PAYING THE ACCRUED VACATION LEAVE AND ONLY PAYING THE ACCRUED SICK LEAVE. THAT 40 HOURS THAT WAS ADDED TO HIS AMENDMENT FALLS UNDER THE DEFINITION OF CREDITED. LEAVE DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION OF ACCRUED LEAVE PER THE CONTRACT RIGHT PER THE CONTRACT CONTRACT. SO I THINK YOU HAVE A STRONG ARGUMENT GOING INTO MEDIATION FOR FOR THAT REASON TO THAT IS YOUR THAT POSITION WHEN YOU GO INTO MEDIATION. BECAUSE IF YOU DO GIVE. IN MY OPINION, AND I KNOW I'M GIVING LEGAL ADVICE IN OPEN SESSION, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR LAWYERS TO DO, BUT THE PEOPLE LOVE IT, JUST SO YOU KNOW. BUT THE ARGUMENT IS FOR US TO BE CONSISTENT. WE'RE PAYING YOU YOUR ACCRUED VACATION LEAVE. IF WE PAY MORE THAN ACCRUED SICK LEAVE, IT WEAKENS THE ARGUMENT AS TO WHY WE'RE STICKING TO THE ACCRUAL. SO THAT'S WHY, IN MY OPINION, IT IS. TO BE MORE CONSISTENT, I WOULD ONLY PAY THE ACCRUAL VACATION LEAVE AND THE ACCRUED SICK LEAVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE AMENDMENT SAYS. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. YEAH, I, I SAID THAT I WOULD GO WITH OUR ATTORNEY'S OPINION AND I DO. SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT WILL PREVENT US GOING INTO MEDIATION 
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BY ADDING THAT 40 HOURS BACK IN. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED IN MEDIATION AND SHOULD NOT HOLD UP THE PROCESS. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER APPROVING A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND OR HIS DESIGNEE TO PAY OUT THE FORMER CITY MANAGER BY LANGLEY'S CONTRACT FOR THE ACCRUED VACATION TIME OF 63.55 HOURS AND THE ACCRUED SICK LEAVE OF 265 HOURS IN .43 SECOND. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA A SECOND BY MYSELF. DO WE HAVE ANY CONVERSATION? ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. GOSA. YES. TOBIAS IS ABSENT. MCKINNEY. YES. MEDINA. YES. FLORES. YES. 
          HARRIS. YES. ZAPATA. YES. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION PASSES. MOTION PASSES. 6 TO 0. GUYS, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR TALKING OUR WAY THROUGH THIS. WE'RE DOING HANDLING SOME REALLY TOUGH STUFF. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE TEAMWORK TEAMWORK. AND I THINK EVENTUALLY TO WHAT CAN I HAVE YOU COME BACK UP HERE JUST FOR A SECOND BECAUSE WE DO, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT THAT'S KIND OF SIMILAR, WHICH IS THE CITY ATTORNEYS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE TELLING US JUST THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO. AND IF THERE WAS LIKE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I'LL JUST STATE THAT IN MY OPINION, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S CONTRACT IS EVEN CLEARER. THE AMENDMENT, THAT AMENDMENT AND AND THAT IS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THAT LANGUAGE IS VERY CLEAR THAT IF SHE WERE TO RESIGN OR RETIRE, SHE GETS PAID HER ACCRUED LEAVE. THERE'S NO QUESTION IN HER CONTRACT, IT'S MUCH CLEARER. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK. AND BY THE WAY, WHEN I WAS CITY ATTORNEY, I NEVER RECEIVED APPLAUSE. OH WELL, YOU DID NOW. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. NOW YOU'RE OFF THE CLOCK. SO. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM 
          [10) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the results of the Payroll Audit, & Workflow Assessment including related findings and recommendations completed by Weaver & Tidwell, LLP, as part of the City's overall internal audit program.]
SEVEN. REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE RESULTS OF THE PAYROLL AUDIT AND WORKFLOW ASSESSMENT, INCLUDING RELATED FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS COMPLETED BY WEAVER AND TYNDALL LLP AS PART OF THE CITY'S OVERALL INTERNAL AUDIT PROGRAM. ITEM. PRESENTER. PEREZ. MOHIT. SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY'S INTERIM CITY MANAGER PERVEZ MOHIT. THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING IS REGARDING THE INTERNAL AUDIT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE INSTITUTED A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK. SO THIS EVENING, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK RECAP OF OUR CITY'S RISK ASSESSMENT AND INTERNAL AUDIT PROGRAM. GO OVER VERY BRIEFLY KEY REASONS WHY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES CONDUCT RISK ASSESSMENT AND MITIGATION AUDITS. REVIEW RECOMMENDED INTERNAL AUDIT PROGRAM FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN LET THE AUDITORS FROM WE WERE IN TIDWELL PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE PAYROLL AUDIT AND WORKFLOW ASSESSMENT THAT THEY COMPLETED AS PART OF THE INTERNAL AUDIT PROGRAM FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. SO WHY DO CITY GOVERNMENTS PERFORM RISK ASSESSMENT AND MITIGATION AUDITS? CITY GOVERNMENTS PERFORM THESE ASSESSMENT AND MITIGATION AUDITS TO IDENTIFY HIGH RISK FUNCTIONS AND ACTIVITIES IN THEIR OPERATIONS TO HELP IMPLEMENT PREVENTIVE CONTROL MEASURES TO REDUCE OR MITIGATE THOSE RISKS BEFORE THE HIGH RISK FUNCTIONS OR ACTIVITIES BECOME A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR THAT GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. HERE ARE SOME KEY REASONS FOR CONDUCTING A RISK ASSESSMENT AND MITIGATION. 
          AUDIT IS TO SAFEGUARD PUBLIC FUNDS, ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS, REGULATIONS AND POLICIES, STRENGTHEN INTERNAL CONTROLS, PREVENT OPERATIONAL DISRUPTIONS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PROTECT PUBLIC TRUST. SO HERE'S SOME BACKGROUND AS TO WHERE THE CITY STARTED THIS RISK ASSESSMENT 
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AND MITIGATION PROGRAM. CITY'S FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT DEVELOPED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL OR RFP, TO SOLICIT PROPOSALS FROM QUALIFIED FIRMS TO CONDUCT A RISK BASED ASSESSMENT AND ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY, ANALYZE AND ASSESS THE CITY'S EXPOSURE TO INHERENT RISK IN ITS KEY OPERATIONAL AND BUSINESS PROCESSES, AND TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MITIGATION STRATEGIES AND NEXT STEPS. FROM THERE. ON NOVEMBER 26TH, 2024, THE THE CITY ISSUED THE FORMAL RFP, OR THE SOLICITATION PROCESS WAS BEGUN ON FEBRUARY 4TH, 2025. THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE SELECTION AND CONTRACT AWARD TO WEAVER AND TIDWELL LLP TO CONDUCT THE RISK BASED ASSESSMENT AND ANALYSIS. AND WE BROKE THIS PROJECT INTO PHASES. SO PHASE ONE OF THE RISK ASSESSMENT PROGRAM STARTED IN FEBRUARY 2025. AND THIS PHASE INCLUDED A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF THE CITY'S MAJOR FUNCTIONS USING PROBABILITY AND IMPACT TO IDENTIFY INHERENT RISKS IN THE MAJOR FUNCTIONS, PROCESSES, AND ACTIVITIES. TWO ANALYZE AND RANK RISK RATING RESULTS. AND FINALLY, TO DEVELOP RISK LEVEL BASED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AN INTERNAL AUDIT AND ADVISORY ENGAGEMENT FOR FISCAL YEARS. 26, 27, 28, AND BEYOND. SINCE THE CITY OF KYLE DOES NOT HAVE AN INTERNAL AUDIT PROGRAM, WE DO NOT HAVE INTERNAL AUDITORS ON OUR STAFF. WE RELY ON THIRD PARTIES SUCH AS WEAVER AND TIDWELL TO HELP US WITH THAT. 
          PHASE ONE OF THE RISK ASSESSMENT ANALYSIS WAS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED BY THE SELECTED FIRM, WEAVER AND TIDWELL, ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025, THE WEAVER TEAM PRESENTED A REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE RESULTS OF THE RISK ASSESSMENT ANALYSIS, WHICH WAS THE FIRST PHASE AND THEIR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS. BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526. THE FOLLOWING THREE FUNCTIONS WITH HIGH RISK LEVELS WERE IDENTIFIED FOR FURTHER EXAMINATION, AUDIT AND PAYROLL PROCESSES, WHICH WAS JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED BY WEAVER AND TIDWELL, AND YOU WILL HEAR THEIR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THIS EVENING. 
          THE OTHER TWO PROGRAMS WERE TO EVALUATE THE FEE DEVELOPMENT AND REVIEW PROCESSES OF THE CITY OF KYLE, AND THREE WAS. THE THIRD ONE WAS EVALUATION OF CAPITAL PROJECT DELIVERY PROCESS. AND BOTH OF THESE. WE HAVE DEFERRED AT LEAST UNTIL NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SO WITH THAT COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE BRANDON TENNIS WITH. HE'S A PARTNER WITH WEAVER AND TIDWELL. 
          ALONG WITH HIM WILL BE HOLLY HART, DIRECTOR AT WEAVER AND TIDWELL TO PRESENT THE. THEIR RESULTS OF THE PAYROLL AUDIT. THERE YOU GO. THEY MADE IT SCARY. YEAH. SO. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL, IT'S OUR PLEASURE TODAY TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE PAYROLL AUDIT AND WORKFLOW ASSESSMENT. AND SO THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR STATUS OF WHERE WE WERE WITH THAT ENGAGEMENT. AND TODAY WE ARE HAVE COMPLETED THAT. SO WITHIN YOUR PACKET FOR THE BOARD, FOR YOUR COUNCIL, YOU WOULD ALSO SEE THE FORMAL REPORT. AND SO WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER THIS EVENING IS REALLY THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT REPORT. SO DEFINITELY WE'LL HAVE SOME PAUSING FOR ANY QUESTIONS. AND DEFINITELY AT THE END TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE THAT COME UP. SO AGAIN, I AM JOINED TODAY WITH MY COLLEAGUE HOLLY HART, WHO SERVED AS THE DIRECTOR AND PROJECT MANAGER OVER THIS ENGAGEMENT. AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE KEY HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THAT ASSESSMENT ENTAILED. AND SO AGAIN, FOR THE INTRODUCTION, WE PERFORMED AS PART OF THE RISK ASSESSMENT. THE FIRST AUDIT THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY MANAGEMENT WAS THE PAYROLL AUDIT AND ALSO LOOKED AT A WORKFLOW ASSESSMENT. SO THAT ALSO INCLUDES SOME ANALYZES OF HOW OUR WORKFLOW WAS BEING DONE. 
          AND SO WE LOOKED AT THE EVALUATE THE OPERATING WHAT WE CALL THE EFFECTIVENESS AND ASSESS THE COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE APPLICABLE POLICIES AND REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS, 
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IDENTIFYING ANY CONTROL DEFICIENCIES AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO STRENGTHEN THE OVERALL CONTROL ENVIRONMENT. AND SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT CONTROLS ARE AND HOW WE ASSESS THAT. SO THAT ASSESSMENT ALSO INCLUDED A REVIEW OF THE IN-SCOPE PAYROLL PROCESSES RELATED TO INTERNAL CONTROLS, COORDINATING ACTIVITIES ACROSS THE CITY. AND SO YOU WILL SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE THE FOCUS AREAS. AND SO WHEN WE SAY WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN PAYROLL, THESE ARE ALL THE SPECIFIC PROCESS SUBPROCESS AREAS WE EVALUATED THAT INCLUDED GOVERNANCE POLICIES AND OVERSIGHT, YOUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND YOUR SEGREGATION OF DUTIES, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT INTERNAL CONTROLS WE EVALUATE. LOOKING AT YOUR EMPLOYEE MASTER FILE MAINTENANCE. SO HOW WE'RE MAINTAINING OUR DATA TIMEKEEPING AND OVERTIME, HOW THAT'S BEING DONE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, PAYROLL PROCESSING AND REVIEW. SO THE KIND OF NITTY GRITTY OF HOW THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING PROCESSED, HOW WE'RE REVIEWING IT, ALSO THE DEDUCTIONS, GARNISHMENTS AND BENEFITS OF NOT JUST HAVING THAT IN THE SYSTEM, HOW IT'S BEING CALCULATED AND TAKEN OUT OF THE PAY AND RECORDED PAYROLL TAXES, AND OUR REGULATORY REPORTING, THE RECONCILIATIONS AND ONGOING MONITORING THAT'S BEING DONE TO ENSURE THAT PAYROLL IS ACCURATE, AND LOOKING ALSO AT SWORN OFFICER AND SPECIALTY PAY. SINCE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE IS SPECIAL PAYS THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION HOW THOSE ARE CODED IN THE SYSTEM AND PAID OUT AND LOOKING AT EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS. AND SO THAT WAS INCLUDED HERE AS WELL. AND SO OUR SCOPE PERIOD WAS JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST OF 2025. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS LOOKS REALLY AT A SNAPSHOT OF A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. BUT WE ALSO HAVE DISCUSSIONS THROUGHOUT THAT TIME, STARTING FROM JANUARY OF 26 UNTIL TODAY, OF REALLY HOW OUR PROCESSES ARE DONE. SO EVEN THOUGH OUR SCOPE PERIOD IS THERE, WE ARE HAVING CURRENT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE CURRENT PROCESS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE ONLY LOOKED AT THAT TIME FRAME. THAT PART TIME FRAME IS ALSO CRUCIAL IN LOOKING AT DATA AND TRANSACTIONS AND TESTING OF THAT INFORMATION. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OUR FORMAL SCOPE PERIOD. 
          BUT WE CONSIDER THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE TODAY. AND SO THERE'S REALLY TWO MAIN AREAS DESIGN EVALUATION THAT WE EVALUATED. AND SO THAT LOOKS AT YOUR DESIGN OF INTERNAL CONTROLS TO ENSURE THEIR EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATION AND COMPLIANCE OF THE PAYROLL PROCESSES. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INTERNAL CONTROLS WE LOOK AT WHAT ARE YOUR SEGREGATION OF DUTIES. HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT DATA IS PROTECTED? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THERE'S REVIEWS AND RECONCILIATIONS AND APPROVALS THAT HAPPEN INSTEAD OF JUST SINGLE POINTS OF A RELIANCE ON CERTAIN FOLKS? AND THEREFORE, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT PAYROLL WORKFLOW ASSESSMENTS. SO THAT INCLUDE REALLY LOOKING AT YOUR PAYROLL PROCESSES AND COORDINATING ACTIVITIES ACROSS THE CITY, INCLUDING YOUR PAYROLL PROCESSES PERFORMED OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM. SO THAT INCLUDES PROCESSING OF PAY FOR SWORN OFFICERS. AND AGAIN, OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE WAS TO EVALUATE YOUR CURRENT STATE. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY OF YOUR PAYROLL RELATED CONTROL, DESIGN THE OPERATIONAL EFFECTIVENESS AND IDENTIFY ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE THOSE PROCESSES, PROCEDURES AND INTERNAL CONTROLS. SO A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE LOOKING FOR HOW DO WE BE MORE EFFICIENT, MORE EFFECTIVE WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE TODAY. AND INCLUDING THAT ASSESSMENT WAS EFFICIENCY OPPORTUNITIES TO STRENGTHEN OVERSIGHT OF THE PAYROLL ADMINISTRATION AND IMPROVE THE ACCURACY AND COMPLETENESS AND TIMELINESS OF THOSE PAYROLL RELATED ACTIVITIES THAT ARE REPORTING TO MANAGEMENT AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS. ALSO CONSIDERED CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF BOTH SYSTEM DRIVEN AND MANUAL PROCESSES. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU'RE MENTIONING IT EARLIER, PAYROLL IS ONE OF THE LARGEST EXPENSES OF THE CITY. AND SO WHAT WE ASSESSED REALLY IS HOW ARE WE CURRENTLY DOING THAT? AND HOW ARE WE SCALING TO GROWING OPERATIONS? THE CITY OF KYLE IS CONTINUING TO GROW. AND WITH THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SERVANTS. AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT ACTUALLY THE PROCESSING OF PAYROLL AND MAINTAINING EMPLOYEE FILES? AND SO ADDITIONALLY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR PROCESS IS WE'RE DOING A RACE ANALYSIS. SO WHAT THAT IS, IS LOOKING AT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE, ACCOUNTABLE, CONSULTED AND INFORMED OF ALL YOUR DIFFERENT PAYROLL PROCESSES THAT HAPPEN ACROSS THE CITY. SO THIS ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED REALLY TO DEFINE, QUANTIFY AND EVALUATE THE DISTRIBUTION OF ALL THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES ACROSS KEY PAYROLL ACTIVITIES WITH REALLY THE OBJECTIVE OF IDENTIFYING GAPS AND ROLE CLARITY, SEGREGATION OF DUTIES AND OPERATIONAL DEPENDENCIES. SO THAT ANALYSIS FURTHER INFORMED BY INTERVIEWS AND PROCESS WALKTHROUGHS CONDUCTED WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS ACROSS PAYROLL, HR, IT, FINANCE AND DEPARTMENTAL MANAGEMENT TO FURTHER VALIDATE THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND REALLY GAIN A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS TODAY. SO IN THOSE PROCEDURES, SOME OF THOSE WE KIND OF ALREADY MENTIONED, WE HAD INTERVIEWS AND DETAILED WALKTHROUGHS. SO THAT IS WALKTHROUGHS OF FOLLOWING AROUND. WHAT ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT ARE PERFORMED? HOW ARE WE DOING IT? SHOWING US HOW IT'S ENTERED IN THE SYSTEM AND WHAT MAY BE DONE MANUALLY. WE REVIEWED YOUR PAYROLL POLICIES, THE PAYROLL CALENDARS, MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENTS AND OTHER SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AS WE ASSESS THAT. AND WE TESTED A SAMPLE OF PAYROLL TRANSACTIONS, INCLUDING TIMESHEETS, GARNISHMENTS REIMBURSEMENTS, AND SPECIALTY PAY RECORDS. AND WE REVIEWED USER ACCESS CONFIGURATIONS AND SODS AND TYLER ENCODE AND TIME 
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AND ATTENDANCE. SO WHAT THAT MAKES SURE IS AS WE HAVE A SYSTEM, DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE WITH THE RIGHT ACCESS SO THAT WE CAN'T HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND OVERRIDE SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE CONTROLLED? ALSO LOOKED AT PAYROLL RECONCILIATIONS, OUR REGULATORY FILINGS AND APPROVAL DOCUMENTATION AGAIN. AND THEN LASTLY, BENCHMARKED YOUR ADMINISTRATION ACROSS TEN OTHER COMPARABLE TEXAS PEER CITIES. SO HOW DO YOU STACK UP WITH OTHER PEER CITIES IN THE SENSE OF PAYROLL, ADMINISTRATION, AND MANAGEMENT? SO AS A RESULT OF ALL THOSE PROCEDURES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE DETAILED EVALUATION OF YOUR PAYROLL PROCESSES, WE IDENTIFIED 11 FINDINGS WERE MANAGEMENT REMEDIATION EFFORTS WILL IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES, EFFECTIVENESS AND REDUCE RISK IN THE PROCESSES EVALUATED. SO BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THOSE, I WILL SAY THAT WE DO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE PAYROLL PROCESS HERE AT THE CITY. AND IT IS ENSURES THAT PAY IS PERFORMED AND PEOPLE GET PAID WHERE WE SEE CONCERNS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TO REALLY IMPROVE AND REDUCE THE RISK PROFILE FOR THE CITY IS TO HAVE FURTHER FORMALITIES IN OUR PROCESSES, OUR CONTROLS, AND ALSO WE WHO IS DOING THOSE PROCESSES RIGHT NOW? THERE'S A HEAVY SINGLE POINT OF RELIANCE. 
          YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR, BUT THAT PERSON IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBLE PERSON. 
          AND SO HOW DO YOU WORK TOGETHER AND INCLUDING RESOURCES AND FINANCE AND SO FORTH, HR TO IMPROVE OUR CONTROL ENVIRONMENT, ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SECONDARY REVIEWS AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN STEP IN. WE HAVE REALLY GOOD PEOPLE HERE AT THE CITY, BUT ALSO IF SOMEONE'S OUT OR SOME UNEXPECTED THING HAPPENS, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT SOMEBODY CAN COME IN AND REALLY TAKE OVER AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE GET PAID? SO AS WE LOOK AT THAT, WE HAVE THESE 11 FINDINGS THAT HOLLY WILL COME UP SOON AND DIVE INTO FURTHER. AND SO AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE A TREND. AND A LOT OF THAT IS MORE OF THE FORMALITY INTO OUR OUR PROCESSES, MAKING SURE THEY'RE DOCUMENTED, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THESE CONTROL STRUCTURES THAT ARE SET UP AND THAT WE IMPROVE KIND OF JUST THE OVERALL RELIANCE. IT'S NOT ON ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAVE HOLLY THAT'S GOING TO COME UP AND GIVE A SUMMARY OF THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. THANKS, BRANDON. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. THANKS FOR HAVING US BACK. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THESE 11 FINDINGS. AND AS WE GO, WE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, AT THE END, FEEL FREE TO ASK US ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO THE VERY FIRST ONE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, BRANDON DID MENTION FORMALITY. 
          YOU KNOW, THE NEED TO ENSURE A GOOD CONTROL ENVIRONMENT, A GOOD CONTROL STRUCTURE TO ENSURE THAT NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE CONSISTENCY IN OUR CONTROLS, BUT IF FOR SOME REASON WE NEED TO HAVE BUILD IN SUCCESSION PLANNING AND THINGS LIKE THAT TOO. SO WE DID AN INVENTORY, AN INVENTORY OF ALL THE VARIOUS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES REGARDING PAYROLL OR RELATED TO PAYROLL. YOU CAN SEE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT IN APPENDIX A, BUT OVERALL, WE FOUND THAT WE DO HAVE SOME KEY PROCESSES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMAL AND RELY VERY HEAVILY ON THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR PERSONNEL, SPECIFICALLY YOUR PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR. AND SO WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES HERE TO REALLY SHORE UP A LOT OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, A LOT OF STUFF REGARDING PROCESSING GARNISHMENTS TIME KEEPING EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT WE'VE CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY THAT COULD USE SOME POLISHING AROUND THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, ARE SOME OF THE ROOT CAUSE. FOR ADDITIONAL FINDINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THE REPORT. AND AGAIN, AS BRANDON MENTIONED, THIS IS KIND OF INHERENT IN A VERY FAST GROWING CITY. WE'LL TALK IN THE SECOND FINDING REGARDING THE ANALYSIS THAT WE PERFORMED ABOUT THE GROWTH TRAJECTORY OF THE CITY OF KYLE. AND SO THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS ANALYSIS ALSO SUPPORTS THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY RAPIDLY GROWING CITY. AND WITH THAT COMPLEXITY. AND SO REALLY, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT SOME MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND FORMALIZED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THAT DETAIL CAN BE FOUND IN THE APPENDIX IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT BEFORE I MOVE ON? OOPS. ALL RIGHT. THE SECOND AREA, SINGLE POINT OF RELIANCE. WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ALREADY, BUT WE DID PERFORM A VERY EXTENSIVE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ANALYSIS IN WHICH WE LOOKED AT ALL THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT WE INTERVIEWED, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE REVIEWED AND ANALYZED. AND WE PUT TOGETHER A RACI, WHICH IS REALLY TAKING A LOT OF QUALITATIVE INFORMATION AND TURNING IT INTO A QUANTIFICATION. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE VALUE OF THIS IS, AND IT'S REALLY JUST A SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF THE SPREAD OF ALL THE VARIOUS ROLES THAT ARE KEY WITHIN THE PAYROLL PROCESS. AND OF COURSE, WE FOUND, OF COURSE, A VERY HEAVY RELIANCE ON A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL. AND WHILE AGAIN, THERE THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN OPERATING. AND, YOU 
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KNOW, WE'LL WE'LL GO INTO SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL FINDINGS, BUT OVERALL, A VERY EFFECTIVE PAYROLL FUNCTION. WE DID SEE A NEED TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE FUNCTION. WE ALSO DID A PEER ANALYSIS OF TEN PEER CITIES, WHICH IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE APPENDIX IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. THAT HAS QUITE A BIT OF DATA BEHIND IT IN TERMS OF THE SIZE, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS ATTRIBUTES THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A NEED FOR. YOU KNOW, VARIOUS NUMBERS OF PAYROLL PEOPLE IN THAT FUNCTION. AND AGAIN, THAT ANALYSIS DID SUPPORT THE FACT THAT, COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING, THE CITY OF KYLE COULD USE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN THIS AREA. AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IS TO EVALUATE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE EITHER PAYROLL STAFFING OR SUPPORTING FROM OTHER AREAS TO NOT ONLY PROVIDE FUNCTIONAL REDUNDANCY AND RESOLVE THAT SINGLE POINT OF RELIANCE, BUT ALSO ENSURE THAT IT'S SUSTAINABLE AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. FINDING THREE EMPLOYEE MASTER FILE MAINTENANCE. THE EMPLOYEE MASTER FILE. THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT RECORD FOR YOUR CITY, RIGHT? WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON VARIOUS INSTANCES OF EMPLOYEES TODAY, THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MAINTAIN ACCURATE RECORDS OF OUR PERSONNEL. AND SO WHAT WE FOUND HERE IS THAT WE DO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE MASTER FILE. IT IS MAINTAINED, HOWEVER, A MORE FORMAL AND PERIODIC REVIEW OF THAT FILE REALLY ISN'T CONSISTENTLY PERFORMED OR ESTABLISHED. THIS DOES LIMIT THE OVERALL ASSURANCE THAT THAT MASTER FILE IS MAINTAINED TO BE COMPLETE AND ACCURATE. THERE ARE UPDATES THAT OCCUR IN THAT MASTER FILE, AND SO THE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW PROCESS THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE REALLY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DETECT ANY INCONSISTENCIES OR ERRORS THAT MAY BE CAUGHT IN THAT REVIEW. WE DO RECOMMEND A REGULAR REVIEW OF THAT EMPLOYEE MASTER FILE. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE AUDIT TRAIL. YOU CAN LOOK AT VARIOUS ATTRIBUTES WITHIN THAT TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE INCONSISTENCIES. IT'S JUST A IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE TO ENSURE THAT IT'S MAINTAINED APPROPRIATELY. AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION HERE ESTABLISH A PERIODIC AT LEAST WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER ANNUAL REVIEW TO LOOK AT THAT MASTER FILE. AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT THAT OCCURS, NOT THE ONE PERSON THAT DOES THE PAYROLL ADMINISTRATION FOR APPROPRIATE SEGREGATION OF DUTIES THAT SHOULD OCCUR OUTSIDE OF THAT FUNCTION. OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, SO MY QUESTION IS, OKAY, WE HAVE AND I KNOW OUR PAYROLL. SHE'S AMAZING. I SAW HER WORKING NEW YEAR WAS NEW YEAR'S EVE. I DID NOT REALIZE WE HAD ONE AT ALL. I COMPLETELY TRUST HER. THIS QUESTION IS JUST HYPOTHETICAL. SO IF WE JUST HAD ONE PERSON TO AND TO OVERSEE ALL THIS THINGS, LIKE I WAS LIKE RESEARCHING ONLINE, BUT THEY COULD BE WHAT THEY CONSIDERED LIKE GHOST EMPLOYEES OR LIKE WAYS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR A FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY. THOSE AREN'T THERE, RIGHT? THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANY POLICY. 
          WE HAVE ONE. WE DON'T HAVE A CURRENT PROCESS TO CONTINUOUSLY DETECT THAT SORT OF THING AND GO THINGS LIKE GHOST EMPLOYEES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU IT'S ONE OF THE LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU WOULD CHECK IN A MASTER FILE REVIEW THAT OCCURS ON A PERIODIC BASIS. AND SO THERE'S VARIOUS ANALYTICS THAT CAN BE PERFORMED. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, JUST ANALYSIS THAT ON THAT FILE, IT'S EXPORTED INTO A SPREADSHEET AND THERE'S TONS OF DATA WITHIN YOUR FILE THAT CAN BE ANALYZED FOR POTENTIAL FRAUDULENT ACTIVITY OR JUST MOSTLY ERRORS AND INCONSISTENCIES. BUT YES, HAS A CITY THROUGH YOUR RESEARCH, HAS THE CITY EVER HAD LIKE, IS THAT A FORMAL PERIOD? NOT A FORMAL ONE THAT I'M AWARE OF. OKAY. I'M TRYING TO KNOW. OKAY. SO OKAY. I LIKE THIS. THIS IS LIKE RIPPING THE BAND AID OFF, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. WE'RE GOING TO LAY OUT ALL OF OUR FAULTS AND WE'RE GOING TO GROW FROM THIS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE ASKING THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS JUST BECAUSE WE LOVE THEM. WE WANT AND YOU GUYS ARE GREAT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF IN A HARD ROLE BECAUSE YOU GOT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE A PROFESSIONAL. BUT YOU KNOW, FOR US, FOR ME ESPECIALLY, I'M THINKING, OKAY, RED FLAG, RED FLAG. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS CAN'T SAY THAT, BUT FOR ME, I CAN. AND SO YEAH, KNOWING THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE SET OF EYES. LUCKILY WE HAVE VERY GOOD EYES ON THEM. IS A RED FLAG FOR ME 
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TO ENSURE BECAUSE HOW LONG CAN I ASK HOW LONG YOU'VE WORKED FOR THE CITY? AMY CASWELL, PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR. I HAVE WORKED FOR THE CITY FIVE YEARS AS OF JUNE 14TH. I HAVE DONE PAYROLL FOR FOUR OF THE FIVE YEARS. I STARTED IN PARVEZ'S GROUP AS FIXED ASSETS. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. SO, I MEAN, I CAN REST ASSURED THAT WE'VE HAD SOLID EMPLOYMENT FOR, FOR, FOR FIVE YEARS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WHEN WE TALK COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL ABOUT FORENSIC AUDITS AND SUCH, THAT'S GOING BACK LIKE WE'VE BEEN VERY BLESSED TO HAVE THAT SAME CONSISTENT, RELIABLE, TRUSTWORTHY EMPLOYEE, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE MOVING FORWARD AND IN THE PAST, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. SO ABSOLUTELY, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE, I THINK YOU CAN GO ON. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAVADA. AND I GUESS WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT TOO. MORE LIKE AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATION OR WHAT'S BEING DONE, I GUESS, IN RESPONSE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT I THINK JUST VERY BRIEFLY, WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL? LIKE AN ENTIRE REVIEW OF THAT? LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LIKE A SEPARATE FTE OR LIKE A RESPONSIBILITY THAT FALLS UNDER THE CURRENT? I WOULDN'T SAY YOU'D NEED AN ENTIRE NEW FTE JUST FOR THAT PARTICULAR REVIEW, BUT IT WOULD TYPICALLY BE SOMEONE DIFFERENT FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR PAYROLL FUNCTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR APPROPRIATE SEGREGATION OF DUTIES. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          HARRIS. ANY ISSUES OR ERRORS IN THIS WOULD GENERALLY BE CAUGHT OR NOTICED IN THE REGULAR AUDIT OR NOT. WHEN YOU MENTIONED REGULAR AUDIT, ARE YOU REFERRING TO LIKE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT. GENERALLY THOSE ARE COVERING INTERNAL CONTROLS OVER FINANCIAL REPORTING. THEY DO DO OVERVIEW OF CONTROL KEY CONTROLS IN THAT AREA THAT INVOLVE PAYROLL. BUT THEY WOULDN'T TYPICALLY GO THIS DEEP TO REVIEW THAT OR CATCH THINGS LIKE THIS. NO THANKS. 
          ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. FINDING NUMBER FOUR. THIS ONE IS REALLY REGARDING. 
          AND IT REALLY COMES BACK TO THE EFFICIENCY OF YOUR PROCESS. AS WE MENTIONED, WE DID AN ANALYSIS OF YOUR WORKFLOW. A LOT OF INTERVIEWING VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS YOUR PAYROLL AND HR, HR FUNCTION AND THE CONFIGURATION OF THE SYSTEM, WHENEVER IT WAS FIRST IMPLEMENTED, HAS VERY EXCESSIVE PRECISION IN HOW IT ROUNDS THE TIMING. AND I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING TO THE HUNDREDTH OF AN HOUR. THAT INTRODUCES SOME COMPLEXITY IN REVIEW BY THE SUPERVISORS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS IN WHICH THEY'RE REALLY HAVING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE VERY SMALL ROUNDING, ROUNDING SITUATIONS AND DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT PAYROLL? THEY WANT TO BE SURE THAT THEY GIVE ACCURATE. HOURS TO TO AMY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PROCESSED CORRECTLY. AND SO WITH 100TH OF THE HOUR ROUNDING, IT CAN, IT CAN BE PRETTY COMPLEX. THAT LEVEL OF PRECISION HAS RESULTED IN A LOT OF ADDITIONAL HOURS THAT SUPERVISORS HAVE TO DO AND TO REVIEW PAYROLL. THEY ALREADY ARE PRESSED FOR TIME. AND SO MAKING SURE THAT SUPERVISORS HAVE THE TOOLS AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE ACCURATE AND COMPLETE PAYROLL TIME SHEETS, THE 100TH OF AN HOUR PRECISION DOES INTRODUCE A LITTLE BIT OF COMPLICATION THERE. WE DID, OF COURSE, ALL OF OUR FINDINGS ARE BACKED BY SPECIFIC CRITERIA. 
          AND I JUST I DID WANT TO MENTION HERE THAT I KNOW WE'RE THE CITY, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES HAVE START AND STOP TIMES TO THE NEAREST FIVE MINUTES OR 10TH OF AN HOUR. 
          IT'S A VERY STANDARD PROCESS TO NOT HAVE THIS LEVEL OF PRECISION BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE. 
          IT CAN GET REALLY COMPLICATED, ESPECIALLY AS THE CITY GROWS AND HAS MORE PEOPLE. AND SO CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MORE OF AN EFFICIENCY FINDING. IT'S WHY IT'S LOW RISK. IT'S NOT RESULTING IN ANY SPECIFIC PAYROLL VARIANCES THAT WE NOTED. I MEAN, VERY, VERY SMALL $0.30. 
          I MEAN, WE HAD VERY SMALL VARIANCES IN PAYROLL CALCULATIONS. IT'S MORE OF DETERMINING THE BALANCE BETWEEN EFFICIENCY AND PRECISION. SO ARE YOU SAYING THE CITY OF KYLE PAYS TO THE 100TH OF AN HOUR? THE SYSTEM IS CONFIGURED TO ROUND TO THE HUNDREDTH OF AN HOUR. IS THAT WHAT YOU SEE? MOST CITIES? NO, THAT'S. NO, NOT AT ALL. I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST COST. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S COST SAVINGS OR NOT, BUT YEAH, EVEN I THINK MOST PLACES ARE LIKE POINT LIKE TEN MINUTES, GIVE OR TAKE, YOU KNOW. YEAH, YEAH. USUALLY WHAT IS 100TH OF AN HOUR. AMY'S PROBABLY. SO OUR TIME GOES OUT TO THREE DECIMAL PLACES OUT. SO LIKE YOU MIGHT 
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CLOCK IN AT 1501, BUT THEN YOU HAVE SECONDS ON TOP OF THAT. SO IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AT 3:00, BUT IT'S REALLY LIKE 259 AND A FEW SECONDS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. WHENEVER WE SET AND DISCUSSIONS WITH SUPERVISORS, THEY WERE LIKE, YEAH, IT'S ROUGH. I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT. 
          YEAH. EVEN IN GOVERNMENT. SO COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA, WHEN WAS THE TYLER SYSTEM ADOPTED? I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE HAD IT IN PLACE ALMOST WHAT COMPLETE TWO YEARS, ALMOST TWO YEARS. OKAY. 
          AND THEN WHAT WAS USED PRIOR TO THAT? BEFORE WE WENT TO TYLER, BEFORE I IMPLEMENTED TYLER, WE HAD HILL COUNTRY PAYROLL AND ALL OF OUR SALARY STAFF SUBMITTED EXCEL SPREADSHEETS FOR THEIR TIME. AND MYSELF AND BETTY THORNBURG, WHO WAS HERE AT THE TIME, KEYED THOSE IN. 
          OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S NOT ANY BETTER, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IS LIKE, IS THERE A WE WENT FROM SOMETHING GOOD TO WORSE OR. NO, IT SEEMS LIKE WE INCREMENTALLY IMPROVED, RIGHT. AND MOVING FROM EXCEL SPREADSHEETS, BUT OKAY, BUT THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND WHAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THAT? BECAUSE REALLY, JUST TO REFINE THE CONFIGURATION, TYLER TECHNOLOGIES CAN WORK WITH YOU TO CUSTOMIZE THAT CONFIGURATION. 
          WHENEVER THE CONFIGURATION WAS FIRST SET UP, IT, IT WAS JUST KIND OF SET TO WHATEVER IT WAS SET TO. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS A SPECIFIC BUSINESS DECISION THAT WAS MADE PERHAPS TO, TO SET THAT CONFIGURATION. AND SO DO SOME CITIES USE LIKE ADP OR LIKE OTHER. YES, THERE ARE SOME CITIES WHO DO VERY A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF CITIES DO THAT. IT'S MORE SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICTS THAT TEND TO DO THAT. I WILL SAY ONE BIG CITY, IN MY OPINION, BIG THAT DOES DO THAT IS EL PASO. BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT MOST CITIES DO NOT. IT'S MORE IN-HOUSE. IT'S MORE IN-HOUSE. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, HOLLY, FOR FOR THE RECORD, WHAT'S Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ONE? IT WOULD BE TO WORK WITH TYLER TO REFINE YOUR CONFIGURATION. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEFAULT SETTINGS, WE CAN CHANGE IT. SO INSTEAD OF 100TH OF AN HOUR, ARE YOU SAYING FIVE MINUTES? TEN MINUTES ROUNDED UP? YEAH, I WOULD I MEAN, AGAIN, THE FEDERAL TYPE KEEPING GUIDANCE I THINK IS PRETTY SOLID. NEAREST FIVE MINUTES, 10TH OF AN HOUR, QUARTER AN HOUR. THESE ARE ALL ACCEPTED PRACTICES. JUST DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL OF PRECISION THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. THE FIFTH FINDING HERE. MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT PAGE. TRYING TO KEEP UP SECONDARY REVIEW OVER EMPLOYEE PAY RATE CHANGES IN ALIGNMENT. AGAIN, THIS WAS A LOWER RISK FINDING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FIND A WHOLE SLEW OF VARIANCES WHEN WE ANALYZED OUR SAMPLE. THE WHENEVER WE DID OUR ANALYSIS OF THE EMPLOYEE MASTER FILE, WHICH HAS ALL. OF COURSE, THE DATA REGARDING HOW MUCH PEOPLE GET PAID AND THE ACTUAL CALCULATION OF THEIR PAYROLL. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE SIGNIFICANT VARIANCES, BUT THE SMALL NUMBER OF VARIANCES THAT WE DID HAVE WERE IN REGARDING JUST VERY, VERY SMALL PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR RATE CHANGE DIFFERENCES THAT WERE JUST, YOU KNOW, TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE ACCURATELY ENTERED INTO THE EMPLOYEE MASTER FILE. AND SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THERE'S REALLY NOT A STANDARDIZED VALIDATION STEP. ONCE THOSE PAY RATE CHANGES ARE PERFORMED, THAT STANDARDIZED VALIDATION. SO A SECONDARY REVIEW WOULD DEFINITELY ONCE THOSE CHANGES ARE MADE, SOMEBODY COMES IN AND TAKES A LOOK AT IT, MAKE SURE THAT IT ALL JIVES, AND THEN IT'S SUBMITTED TO GO INTO THE SYSTEM AND BE ACTIVE. AND SO THE THE THING THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND HERE IS A SECONDARY REVIEW TO VERIFY THAT EMPLOYEE RATE CHANGES WERE ACCURATE AND CONSISTENTLY APPLIED ACROSS THE SYSTEM. THE MASTER FILE DOCUMENTATION TO SUPPORT IT. 
          IT'S ALL HOUSED IN THE SYSTEM, JUST A SECONDARY REVIEW AND ANOTHER SET OF EYES TO TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THAT WAS PROCESSED CORRECTLY. THAT COULD BE THE SAME EMPLOYEE THAT ALSO OVERSEES THE OR DOUBLE CHECKS THE MASTER FILE MAINTENANCE AS WELL. YEAH. AS LONG AS IT'S SOMEBODY SEPARATE FROM THE PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR THAT'S PERFORMING THE CHANGE. ALL 
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RIGHT. FINDING NUMBER SIX TIME KEEPING TRAINING AND OWNERSHIP. THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER, SLIGHTLY HIGHER RISK MODERATE RISK FINDING THAT WE, WE EVALUATED, WE WE NOTED AND THIS IS COMING OUT OF DOCUMENTATION AS WELL AS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, SOME OF THE KEY DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED IN TERMS OF A CONSISTENT EXPECTATION FOR TIME KEEPING, THERE'S REALLY NOT A MORE DEFINED OR ENFORCED EXPECTATION. THIS IS REALLY MAKING SURE THAT EMPLOYEES TRULY UNDERSTAND AND ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ACCURATE TIME KEEPING. THERE SEEMS TO BE A BIT OF A CULTURE OF, WELL, MY SUPERVISOR WILL FIX IT OR THEY'LL COME BACK AND HELP ME. AMY WILL GO BACK AND ADJUST IT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WE'LL FIX IT, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO REALLY WHAT WE SEE IN A LOT OF OUR, OUR CLIENTS AND OTHER PEER CITIES IS IF YOU DON'T GET IT RIGHT, THEN WE PROCESS PAYROLL AND WE CAN FIX IT NEXT PAYROLL RUN. SO REALLY, THIS COMES BACK TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND OWNERSHIP OF PAYROLL, OF TIME KEEPING AT THE EMPLOYEE LEVEL AND ESCALATION WHEN REPEAT ERRORS ARE ARE FOUND ON A PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE OR DEPARTMENT OR GROUP OR DIVISION. AND WE ENSURE THAT THAT GETS CORRECTED BEFORE IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE CREATING INEFFICIENCIES IN OUR PROCESS AND POTENTIALLY DELAYING PAYROLL BECAUSE OF IT, WHICH I DON'T THINK HAS HAPPENED. HOWEVER, IT CAN BE QUITE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE REQUIRED, NOT ONLY ON SUPERVISORY MANAGEMENT, BUT ALSO ON YOUR PAYROLL FUNCTION. OKAY. CAN I ASK CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SO WHEN STAFF DOES HAVE CHANGES FOR WHAT MAYBE THEY FORGOT TO CLOCK IN. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, IF A STAFF EMPLOYEE HAD A MISSED PUNCH, IT WOULD SHOW UP AS ZEROS ON THEIR TIME CARD. AND WHEN THEY PUNCH IN, IT'LL PUNCH THEM OUT. SO THE SUPERVISORS ARE ABLE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT DELINEATION BETWEEN THE MISSED PUNCH AND THE PUNCH IN WHAT WE'VE HAD HAPPEN IS THEY'LL GO TO PUNCH CLOCK IN, IT'LL CLOCK THEM OUT, AND THEY'LL REALIZE AT THAT TIME THAT THEY FORGOT THE SYSTEM. WE DON'T HAVE IT SET UP SO THAT IF THEY FORGET TO CLOCK OUT ON FRIDAY, IT'LL CLOCK THEM OUT AFTER A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS. SO THEY WILL BE CLOCKED IN ALL WEEKEND AND IT WILL ROLL THE HOURS AND THE SUPERVISORS HAVE TO GO IN AND FIX EACH LINE ITEM FOR THOSE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF DELAY WITH THE SUPERVISORS BEING ABLE TO REVIEW TIME CARDS BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO GO IN AND CORRECT MISS PUNCHES, OR THE OTHER ONE IS WITH OUR LEAVE BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THE ROUNDING. OUR LEAVE TIMES HAVE TO CHANGE SO THAT THE EMPLOYEE MIGHT HAVE PUT IN AN EIGHT HOUR VACATION OR AN EIGHT HOUR SICK, AND THEY'VE WORKED THEIR THEY'VE WORKED UP TO 35 HOURS, SO MAYBE THEY ONLY NEED FIVE HOURS OF THAT TIME. WE DO HAVE A SICK AND VACATION POLICY THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T USE LEAVE TO GO OVER 40 HOURS, SO THE SUPERVISORS HAVE TO TAKE TIME TO FIX THOSE CORRECTIONS AS WELL. OKAY. DO THE SUPERVISORS GET NOTIFICATION AUTOMATICALLY WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T CLOCK OUT OR WHEN THERE'S NOT A NOTIFICATION ON MISS PUNCHES? THERE IS ONLY LIKE WHEN THE EMPLOYEE APPROVES THEIR TIME CARD. SO THE EMPLOYEE HAS TO APPROVE THEIR TIME CARD. AND THEN IF THEY FIND A MISTAKE, THEN THE SUPERVISOR HAS TO CORRECT IT. DOES THAT DELAY PAYCHECKS? SO WHERE THE DELAY HAPPENS IS IN THE DEPARTMENTS WHERE SUPERVISORS MIGHT HAVE MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES, SOME SOME OF OUR SUPERVISORS HAVE UP TO 22 EMPLOYEES THAT THEY REVIEW TIME CARDS FOR. IN THOSE CASES, HAVING TO GO THROUGH. IF THE EMPLOYEE DOESN'T CATCH THE ERROR AND THE SUPERVISOR CATCHES IT IN REVIEW WHEN THEY. 
          WHEN THE SUPERVISOR MAKES CHANGES TO THE TIME CARD, THE EMPLOYEE HAS TO GO BACK AND APPROVE THE TIME CARD, AND THEN THE SUPERVISOR HAS TO APPROVE THE TIME CARD BEFORE IT CAN PUSH THROUGH. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE DELAY HAPPENS, BECAUSE FOR LIKE SOME OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS OR PARKS, THEY MIGHT BE OUT DOING THINGS IN THE CITY. AND SO THEY HAVE TO GET THEM TO COME BACK IN, FIX THE TIME CARD, APPROVE IT, AND THEN PUSH IT ON. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA, WHEN THERE'S A DISPUTE, LIKE AN 
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HOURS WORKED, WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR GETTING THAT SORTED OUT? SO LIKE, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPAND ON THAT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD ANY EMPLOYEES COME BACK AND SAY, I DIDN'T WORK THOSE HOURS OR I DIDN'T REQUEST THOSE HOURS FOR LIKE SICK OR VACATION. OKAY. I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE IS THAT ALL OF OUR, I'M A VERY PRO WORKER, INDIVIDUAL, EXTREMELY PRO WORKER, INDIVIDUAL. AND SO LIKE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR FLSA NONEXEMPT EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOUR SUPERVISOR IS TRYING TO MANIPULATE YOUR TIMESHEET DOWN, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A FORM OF WAGE THEFT UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. SO YOU DO HAVE PROTECTIONS AND RIGHTS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE DISPUTES THAT ARISE WHERE A SUPERVISOR MAY SAY, ACTUALLY, YOU DIDN'T CLOCK IN AT THIS TIME, YOU CLOCKED IN AT THIS TIME. AND SO I'M GOING TO CHANGE YOUR TIMESHEET. SO IT'S ACTUALLY LOWER. I'M JUST WONDERING, WHAT DO WE DO IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND OUR EMPLOYEES TOLD ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS. SO THE FLSA RIGHTS ARE ON ALL OF OUR TV SCREENS AND ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS. THAT'S SORT OF OUR BILLBOARD. NOW INSTEAD OF WE HAVE ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD VERSUS PAPER. WHEN AN EMPLOYEE'S TIME CARD IS CHANGED, THE EMPLOYEE HAS TO APPROVE THE TIME CARD. SO THEY HAVE TO REVIEW THE HOURS. IF THEY DISPUTED THE TIME AT THAT POINT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT BEFORE THEY WOULD APPROVE THE TIME CARD AND PASS IT ALONG. IF IT CAME UP AFTERWARDS, LIKE, SAY, AN EMPLOYEE WAS OUT ON VACATION MAYBE, AND THEIR THEIR TIME CARD WAS APPROVED AND, AND PASSED THROUGH AND THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS CORRECT. THEY COULD COME BACK, THEY CAN EMAIL ME AND LET ME KNOW. ON MISS PUNCHES, WE ASK THEM TO EMAIL THEIR SUPERVISOR, LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT TIME THAT THEY DID ARRIVE OR LEFT WHEN THEY HAD A MISSED PUNCH. OKAY. AND SO WHAT GENERALLY HAPPENS IF THERE'S A DISPUTE, FOR EXAMPLE? I THINK I'M JUST TRYING REALLY HARD TO UNDERSTAND. WE REALLY HAVEN'T RUN INTO THAT. THAT ISSUE WHERE AN EMPLOYEE HAS SAID, MY MY SUPERVISOR PUT IN THAT I WAS HERE AT SIX AND I WAS REALLY HERE AT 530. ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES CAN CLOCK IN AND OUT ON A MOBILE APP ON THEIR PHONE, SO THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM AS SOON AS THEY, YOU KNOW, GET TO THE LOCATION. SO OKAY. IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, WE'VE, I HAVE GONE OUT AND I HAVE DONE TRAINING WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND WE HAVE TOLD THEM THAT THEY AREE CARDS FOR HAVING CORRECT CLOCK IN AND CLOCK OUT TIME. I HAVE SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND EXPLAINED TO THEM LIKE, THIS IS YOUR INVOICE TO THE CITY TO LET US KNOW WHAT WE OWE YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WORKED OKAY, I THINK I WOULD MAYBE LIKE TO SEE LIKE A CLEARER RESOLUTION PROCESS THAT'S CREATED FOR THAT ONLY BECAUSE I THINK LIKE, IF I'M IN THE POSITION OF AN EMPLOYEE, IT'S NOT THE MOST IF THEY'RE, IF I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THAT, THEN I'M LESS LIKELY TO CHALLENGE IT OR SPEAK UP. SO I THINK IF AND IF THAT, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A DOCUMENTED PROCESS FOR THAT, FOR HOW THAT SORT OF RESOLUTION WOULD BE SOLVED, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE AND THAT WE ARE ALSO VERBALLY TELLING OUR EMPLOYEES ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS IF THEIR FLSA NONEXEMPT, WE DO HAVE A TIMEKEEPING ADMIN DIRECTIVE THAT WAS SIGNED THAT IS AVAILABLE ON OUR SHAREPOINT WEBSITE FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES TO REVIEW. OKAY. AND THAT INCLUDES THE PROCESS, WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, WHAT THEIR SUPERVISOR'S RESPONSIBILITIES ARE AS FAR AS TIMEKEEPING. AND THEY'RE IN THERE, BUT NO RESOLUTION. LIKE, NO, NO, LIKE IF THIS ESCALATES TO REACH OUT TO ME IF THERE'S AN ISSUE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA'S POINT. ALTHOUGH IT HASN'T HAPPENED, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE MAYBE HOLLY HAS AN IDEA OF THINGS THAT WE CAN POLICIES OR PROCEDURES THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT IN ORDER. THIS FINDING IS REALLY SQUARELY ON THE NEED FOR EXPECTATIONS ON ESCALATION. SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ESCALATION ON THE EMPLOYEE SIDE AT THE SAME AND OF COURSE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT'S EXPLICITLY STATED, BUT YOU WOULD ALSO ADDRESS ESCALATION ON THEM ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT COIN. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE IT FAIR. SO THAT WAY PEOPLE KNOW THAT THERE'S A PROCESS. IT DOESN'T PUT A SUPERVISOR IN AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION, DOESN'T PUT AN EMPLOYEE IN AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION, IS ESCALATION, REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN IS COMING FROM. HAVING A DOCUMENTED ESCALATION PROCESS IS DEFINITELY CRITICAL. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. NUMBER SEVEN. THIS FINDING IS RELATED TO GARNISHMENT DEDUCTION SET UP AND REVIEW. WE WE LOOKED AT A 
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SAMPLE OF REQUIRED GARNISHMENTS AND DEDUCTIONS AND HOW THEY WERE SET UP. AND WE DID SEE A FEW CONFIGURATION CONCERNS WITH HOW THOSE ARRANGEMENTS WERE SET UP. AND IN ONE CASE THERE WAS IT EXCEEDED THE AMOUNT OF THE COURT ORDER. AND IN ANOTHER CASE IT WAS LESS THAN THE COURT ORDER. AND SO DEFINITELY SOME ROOM TO IMPROVE HOW WE SET UP GARNISHMENTS AND DEDUCTIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO. WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, COURT MANDATED OR THE THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ABIDE BY THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM IN HOW ANY TYPES OF DEDUCTIONS ARE, ARE REQUIRED OF AN EMPLOYEE. AND SO, AGAIN, THIS IS SIMILAR TO ANOTHER FINDING WE HAD. IT'S REALLY THE NEED TO HAVE A SECONDARY REVIEW WHENEVER THOSE ARE SET UP TO VALIDATE THAT THE GARNISHMENT AND THE DEDUCTION SET UP WAS ENTERED IN THE SYSTEM CORRECTLY, IT ALIGNS WITH THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION. AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT WE COULD DO TO, TO FURTHER ENHANCE THIS IS TO HAVE PERIODIC RECONCILIATION PROCEDURES TO LOOK AT SYSTEM CONFIGURED DEDUCTIONS AND HOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING PROCESSED IN, IN ACTUALITY. AND SO WHILE THESE DOLLARS AREN'T NECESSARILY 40, $50, OVER TIME, THIS CAN THIS CAN ADD UP FOR AN EMPLOYEE IF IT'S INCORRECT. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. FINDING NUMBER EIGHT. THIS IS REGARDING THE REVIEW OF PAYROLL FILINGS AND REGULATORY SUBMISSIONS. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A PROCESS TO INDEPENDENTLY REVIEW PAYROLL TAX FILINGS AND RELATED REGULATORY SUBMISSIONS. YOU KNOW, AGAIN WE HAVE ONE ADMINISTRATOR. AND SO ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO ENSURE THAT THOSE FILINGS ARE SUBMITTED. OF COURSE, WE DO USE OUR TYLER SYSTEM TO GENERATE TAX FILINGS FORM 941 REPORTING OUTPUTS. THEY ARE REVIEWED AND SUBMITTED BY THE PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR. WE BELIEVE THAT THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT FROM ANOTHER INDEPENDENT REVIEW PROCESS FOR PAYROLL TAX FILINGS TO HAVE DEFINED TIMELINES, ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITIES, AND REQUIRED EVIDENCE OF THAT REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO SUBMISSION. NOW, THERE IS VERY STRICT DEADLINES FOR THESE SUBMISSIONS, AND SO IMPLEMENTING THIS CONTROL, IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO HAVE VERY CLEAR, CLEARLY DEFINED RULES AND EXPECTATIONS AND MILESTONES FOR COMPLETION, OR ELSE YOU RUN THE RISK OF SUBMITTING NOT ON TIME, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE DON'T WANT. AND SO THIS IS JUST A SOLID CONTROL FOR ENSURING THAT THOSE SUBMISSIONS ARE COMPLETE AND ACCURATE. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REGULATORY SUBMISSIONS, THAT'S LIKE PAYMENTS TO TEXAS WORKFORCE AND VARIOUS IRS. YEAH. OKAY. YEP. THREE MORE TO GO. 
          ALL RIGHT. FINDING NINE PAYROLL, GENERAL LEDGER RECONCILIATIONS. THIS IS THIS IS A PRETTY STANDARD INTERNAL CONTROL THAT WE GENERALLY EXPECT TO SEE RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PROCESS TO RECONCILE PAYROLL TRANSACTIONS TO THE GENERAL LEDGER. IT'S NOT ESTABLISHED. AND WE ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT THE CONSISTENT PERFORMANCE OF THIS HAS NOT BEEN OBSERVED. IT DOESN'T OCCUR. OR IT IT I THINK THEY ARE WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING A RECONCILIATION PROCESS NOW. HOWEVER, IT IT DEFINITELY COULD USE A FORMALIZED EXPECTATION, A DOCUMENTED REOCCURRING LEDGER RECONCILIATION PROCESS WITH A DEFINED FREQUENCY AND PROCEDURES TO ENSURE THAT IT'S RECORDED IN THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM. AND THIS, OF COURSE, WOULD NEED TO BE AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW. AND TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD FALL UNDER YOUR YOUR FINDING IN YOUR IN THE AREA OF THE FINANCE TEAM TO, TO ASSIST WITH. COULD YOU JUST GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT PAYROLL TO GENERAL LEDGER RECONCILIATION LOOKS LIKE? YEAH. SO EVERY PAYROLL CYCLE, THE PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR PUTS THE PAYROLL PACKAGE TOGETHER. IT HAS ALL OF THE VARIOUS PAYROLL FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO PAY OUT THAT CYCLE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CITY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT IT'S RECONCILED TO THE ACTUAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM, IT'S RECORDED. THE JOURNAL ENTRIES FOR THAT PAYROLL IS RECORDED IN THE SYSTEM, AND THEN THEY RECONCILE TOGETHER AND EVERYTHING ADDS UP. IT'S JUST A FINANCIAL CONTROL THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'RE SUBMITTING, WHAT WE'RE TO THE BANK TO PAY OUT MATCHES, WHAT WE'RE RECORDING IN OUR SYSTEM, IN THE GENERAL LEDGER FOR PAYROLL. AND THE CITY DOESN'T DO THAT AT ALL, OR IT'S JUST NOT A CONSISTENT PROCESS RIGHT 
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NOW. IT'S NOT THAT IT DOESN'T OCCUR. IT HAS OCCURRED. IT'S NOT A CONSISTENTLY PERFORMED PROCESS THAT WE OBSERVED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M FINDING TEN A TIMELY UPDATE OF CERTIFICATION BASED SPECIALTY PAY. WE CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT OUR SWORN OFFICERS. AND SO WE DID NOTE SOME INSTANCES OF CERTIFICATION RELATED PAY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WEREN'T UPDATED TIMELY. THEY WERE EVENTUALLY UPDATED. BUT THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO STRENGTHEN VALIDATION AND ALIGNMENT WITH COMPENSATION AGREEMENTS, OR MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THE SPECIALTY PAYS ARE REFLECTED CORRECTLY IN OFFICER PAYROLL UPON PAYOUT. LOW RISK FINDING THE THE SAMPLES THAT WE TOOK, THEY WEREN'T LARGE, LARGE DOLLARS, AND THEY WERE THEY WERE CAUGHT AND CORRECTED. HOWEVER, DEFINITELY SOME OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE A GAP THERE IN THAT WE COULD BE MORE TIMELY IN THAT UPDATE. AND SO AGAIN, THE, THE AGAIN TO SPEAKING TO BRANDON'S FORMALITY RECOMMENDATION HERE WOULD BE TO ESTABLISH A FORMAL PROCESS TO TRACK THAT CERTIFICATION CHANGE, ENSURE IT'S VERIFIED AND UPDATED THE ASSOCIATED PAY ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN THE PAYROLL SYSTEM IN A TIMELY MANNER. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA, WOULD THAT INCLUDE. BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO THINK BY WHEN DO WE NEED. BY WHEN DO OURS NEED TO BE SUBMITTED, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR IT TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT PAY TIME? LIKE WHAT TYPE OF LAG ARE WE ON? BECAUSE THEN I'M STARTING TO THINK, WELL, THEN DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE SHOULD SET ASIDE LIKE A OR SET A SPECIFIC DATE BY WHICH THESE NEED TO HAVE BEEN COMPLETED SO WE CAN ENSURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED ON THAT PAYROLL FOR THE MONTH. SO AM I MAKING SENSE? SORRY. SO IT WOULD COINCIDE WITH WHEN THE CERTIFICATION WAS OBVIOUSLY GAINED BY THE OFFICER. AND WITHIN THAT FRAME, ONCE THEY SUBMIT IT TO VERIFY THAT THAT HAS BEEN OBTAINED, I GUESS DEPENDING ON WHEN IT FALLS WITHIN THE PAYROLL CYCLE, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH OURS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD JUST BE AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT IS STATIC AND RECEIVED ON TOP OF THE HOURS AND THE WORK PERFORMED. OKAY. I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE IS THAT IT JUST, IT ALIGNS WITH THAT MONTH THAT THEY RECEIVE IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THIS FINDING WAS SPEAKING TO. WE SAW IN THIS EXAMPLE, THE OFFICER OBTAINED THE PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATION IN JUNE OF 2025, BUT THE PAYOUT DIDN'T OCCUR UNTIL ABOUT AUGUST. AND SO, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A REASONABLE TIME FRAME THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF A POLICY OF FORMALITY, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE MONTHS. IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS SUBMITTED WITHIN THAT PAY PERIOD, GIVEN THE NEED TO GIVE TIME FOR THE PAYROLL ADMINISTRATOR TO UPDATE IT. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS LIKE, IS THERE LIKE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT? JUST SO THAT WAY THE EMPLOYEES CAN SEE IT REFLECTED IN THE CLOSEST PAYCHECK? WELL, IT DEFINITELY WOULD NEED TO BE IN A, IN A MANNER THAT COINCIDES WITH WHEN PAYROLL IS DUE AND IT'S PAID OUT. AND SO GIVEN THAT YOU ONLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, A SINGLE POINT OF RELIANCE AND YOU HAVE LIMITED PAYROLL STAFF, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF DAYS, BUT IT WOULD NEED TO BE JUST A REASONABLE TIME FRAME FOR PAYROLL TO PROCESS THAT CERTIFICATION TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THAT PAYROLL CYCLE. OKAY. AND I MEAN, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A FEW DAYS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE REQUIREMENT, BUT AGAIN, THAT BANDWIDTH IS KIND OF A JUDGMENT CALL AND COULD DEFINITELY BE A BIT MORE OF A MANAGEMENT DECISION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THAT IS. BACK. IT'S PAID BACK TO THE TIME OF THE CERTIFICATION RIGHT THIS MINUTE. YES. THE SUBMISSION OF THE CERTIFICATION IS MY UNDERSTANDING. NO MATTER WHEN IT'S ENTERED, IT'S BACK PAID. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. YOU GUYS ARE JUST SUGGESTING THAT WE DO MORE TIMELY. SO WHEN OUR OFFICERS RECEIVE CERTIFICATIONS OR OR EDUCATIONAL CERTIFICATIONS, IT COMES THROUGH THE CHIEF OF POLICE OFFICE TO OUR HR BUSINESS PARTNER. AND ONCE IT'S RECEIVED AT THE HR BUSINESS PARTNER, THAT'S WHEN THEY PUT IT ON THE PAYROLL NOTES FOR MYSELF TO ADD TO PAYROLL. SOMETIMES THERE CAN BE A LAG TIME IN THERE DEPENDING ON WHEN THE CHIEF'S OFFICE RECEIVES THE CERTIFICATION BACK, THAT IT'S BEEN VERIFIED THAT THEY DID RECEIVE IT. AND SO THAT MIGHT BE SOME OF THE REASON FOR THE LAG FROM JUNE TO AUGUST. OKAY. SO MAYBE FINDING A BETTER PROCESS FOR THAT. YES. OKAY. 
          [02:15:05]
ALL RIGHT. JULIE, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? GOOD EVENING. JULIE BEGGS, DIRECTOR OF HR. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE HAVE THAT ON THE OFFICER'S RESPONSIBILITY SO THAT WHEN THEY RECEIVE THAT CERTIFICATION, THEY ARE EMPOWERED TO GO TO THE CHIEF, HAVE IT VERIFIED AND THEN SUBMIT IT TO HR. SO SOMETIMES WE WILL GET THOSE VERY TIMELY. SOME ARE VERY ON TOP OF THOSE, AND OTHER TIMES THERE MAY BE A LAG AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S THAT COMMUNICATION PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH TO VERIFY. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. YOU HEAR THAT GUYS GET YOUR MONEY IS WHAT I'M SAYING. GET YOUR MONEY WHEN YOU GET THAT CERTIFICATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I MAY HAVE HEARD THIS FROM YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          WE DON'T RETROACTIVELY ACTIVATE ANY PAY BACK. SO IF SOMEONE RECEIVED A CERTIFICATION IN JUNE BUT NOT DID NOT SUBMIT IT UNTIL SEPTEMBER, IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE THAT SEPTEMBER. SO WE WOULD NOT GO BACK TO THE CERTIFICATION DATE. IT'S WHEN WE AS THE RIGHT WHEN THE CITY HAS VERIFIED AND SUBMITTED. OKAY. ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GOOD COMMUNICATION. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR CLARIFYING. ALL RIGHT. THE LAST FINDING THAT WE HAVE HERE IS REGARDING EMPLOYEE EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT CONTROLS AND STANDARDIZATION. AGAIN, AS WITH MANY OF THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAD, THIS IS THE ROOT CAUSE IS JUST SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN THE CITY IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. THE CITY IS NOW AT A POINT WHERE IT NEEDS SOME VERY STANDARDIZED AND DETAILED GUIDANCE FOR HOW THIS WORKS IN PRACTICE. WE DID NOTE SOME INCONSISTENCIES IN SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION REVIEW PRACTICES ACROSS DEPARTMENTS, AND AS WE ALL KNOW, EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT CONTROLS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO REALLY ANY ORGANIZATION. BUT THIS IS AN AREA THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, INHERENTLY HAVE SOME POTENTIAL. I DON'T WANT TO SAY ABUSE, BUT IT CAN DEFINITELY GET A LITTLE BIT MUDDY VERY QUICKLY. YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF EMPLOYEE EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT, WE DIDN'T FIND ANY OF THAT. HOWEVER, WE DID NOTE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THE CONSISTENCY OF THAT DOCUMENTATION, PROVIDED ENFORCEMENT OF POLICY. IF YOU DON'T SUBMIT THE DOCUMENTATION, YOU DON'T GET REIMBURSED. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT BLACK AND WHITE, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING A VERY GOLD STANDARD AND VERY STRONG CONTROL OVER WHAT'S REQUIRED, ALL THE VARIOUS ATTRIBUTES THAT ARE REQUIRED. SO NOT JUST A RECEIPT, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IS NECESSARY OR CONSIDERED TO BY THE CITY TO BE VALID, TO NOT ONLY SAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH I SPENT, BUT IT WAS FOR A APPROVED USE OF FUNDS. COUNCIL MEMBER GARZA, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING TO THIS? I KNOW YOU KIND OF ADDRESSED IT IN A POST, AND I THINK IT WAS I THINK IT WAS A GOOD POST, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING. THAT IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY EXPRESS YOUR CONCERNS. THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR A WHILE WITH THE CITY. SO AS I WAS DIGGING IN WITH THINGS AS FAR BACK AS 2024, WHICH IS KIND OF WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT THINGS, THERE WERE ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, HOTEL ROOMS THAT EXCEEDED WHAT OUR CITY POLICIES SAID, MEALS THAT WERE EXTRAVAGANT AND LAVISH, DOCUMENTATION THAT DIDN'T MATCH THE REQUIREMENTS, NON-DETAILED RECEIPTS THAT WERE INCLUDED. AND SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE GOOD CONTROLS ON. EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE A SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT HERE, YOU START SEEING ALL OF THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AS THEY ADD UP, AND IT BECOMES QUITE A BIT THAT WE'RE LOSING OUT ON DUE TO NOT ENFORCING OUR POLICIES. YEAH. AND THERE'S CERTAINLY THE SIGNIFICANCE AND MATERIALITY OF THE DOLLAR, BUT IT'S ALSO THE JUST THE NEED TO ENSURE THAT EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE UTILIZE IS FOR AN APPROVED PURPOSE. AND IT IS ALL TAXPAYER DOLLARS, RIGHT? SO TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF THE AMOUNT, IT'S CRITICAL THAT EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS ARE DOCUMENTED, SUPPORTED, AND WE CAN BACK UP EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THAT THERE ARE POLICIES ALREADY IN PLACE AND THEY'RE NOT BEING FOLLOWED. SO AM I, OR THEY HAVEN'T BEEN OR THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN OR SOMETHING HAPPENED ALONG THE WAY. SO WHAT WOULD THE SUGGESTION BE? I CALL IT CONSEQUENCES. IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, HOW DO WE GIVE A CONSEQUENCE TO THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR? WELL, GENERALLY, I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS HAVE KIND OF A POLICY OF, OKAY, YOU DO THIS ONE TIME, PERHAPS WE'LL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE. SECOND, THIRD REPEAT OFFENDERS WILL STOP. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING. WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO REIMBURSE YOU ANYMORE, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR EXPENSES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN'T PROVIDE A SUFFICIENT AND APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION. SO NOT JUST 
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DOCUMENTATION, BUT SUFFICIENCY OF THE ATTRIBUTES THAT ARE ON IT. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT EVIDENCE OF APPROVAL BY YOUR SUPERVISOR OR YOUR MANAGEMENT AS WELL. AND SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S A LOT OF TIMES CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE KIND OF A GRACE ON ONE THIS IF THIS IS REPEATED, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY OR JUST A BLACK AND WHITE POLICY OF JUST NOT. 
          IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT IT, THEN WE CAN'T REIMBURSE IT. BUT. BRANDON, DO YOU HAVE ANY. NO, I THINK WHAT HOLLY MENTIONED WAS WAS PRETTY ACCURATE. I'D SAY ALSO JUST MORE FORMALITIES AND SETTING GUIDELINES IS WHAT WE SEE AS BEST PRACTICE. SO THERE IS NO INTERPRETATION ON WHAT'S ALLOWABLE AND UNALLOWABLE. SO WE HAVE SEEN SOME VERY DETAILED POLICIES THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC. AND IF IT'S GOING TO EXCEED, I WILL TELL YOU SOMETIMES WHERE WE SEE ISSUES, IT'S NOT JUST IN THE I'M TRAVELING AND I'M EATING AND THAT'S A MEAL, BUT BUSINESS, ENTERTAINMENT. AND SO THAT ONE, YOU HAVE TO ALSO HAVE SOME VERY PARAMETERS IN THERE. WHAT'S ALLOWABLE AND ALSO WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND SHOULD BE PRE-APPROVED IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT. SO YOU SET AN EXPECTATION WITHIN THE YOUR SYSTEM AND ALSO THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT. AND WHEN I GO TO REVIEW SOMETHING, I HAVE AN EXPECTATION OF WHAT THAT AMOUNT SHOULD BE. NOW THERE'S ALSO IF WE'RE TRAVELING AND USING P CARDS, SOME OF THE REPERCUSSIONS ON THAT IS REMOVING P CARDS FROM THAT PERSON. SO THEY'RE UNABLE TO USE THAT AND HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERSONAL EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT, WHICH IS ALSO SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND DENIAL IF IT DID NOT FOLLOW POLICY. AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WITH SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DENY IT IF THEY WERE ON CITY BUSINESS AND YOU NEED TO REIMBURSE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU SET THE EXPECTATION AND THEN ENFORCEMENT AND THAT SHOULD BE REALLY REVIEWING IN DETAIL ALL OF THESE AND CONTINUALLY EVALUATING YOUR POLICY. BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE THAT HAPPENS, AND FOR A GOOD EXAMPLE IS LIKE UBER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AN UBER SOMEWHERE, THEY CHANGE THE CLASSES OF TYPES OF UBERS OVER THE YEARS. AND SO WHAT'S APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, IS IT UBER X? IS IT THE COMFORT? AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW BLACKS, UBER BLACKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S LIKE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND ASSESS WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AND ALLOWABLE ON A ROUTINE BASIS BECAUSE IT DOES CHANGE. SO THAT'S SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT FORMALIZING AND MORE HAVING MORE DETAILED GUIDANCE IN YOUR EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT POLICY. I DID WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT THIS IS NOT JUST PROTECTION FOR THE CITY, IT'S ALSO PROTECTION FOR THE EMPLOYEE. YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY CRITICAL FOR EMPLOYEES TO KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS ON THEM AND THAT NOT ONLY THAT ON THEM, BUT THEY SEE FROM A, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S CONSISTENTLY APPLIED ACROSS THE BOARD AS WELL. OKAY. WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. DO WE HAVE AN EXPENSE TRACKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OR EXPENSE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM? WELL, AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE ACCOUNTING ASSOCIATED, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHENEVER SOMEBODY GETS AN EMPLOYEE REIMBURSEMENT, IT'S CODED TO A PARTICULAR ACCOUNT CODE. BUT DO WE HAVE A LIKE A COMPREHENSIVE EXPENSE TRACKING MANAGEMENT SYSTEM? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          OKAY. BECAUSE DO CITIES NORMALLY HAVE THAT? NO, TYPICALLY IT'S JUST PROCESSED WITHIN YOUR TYPICAL ACCOUNTS PAYABLE FUNCTION. AND IT'S EASILY TRACEABLE BY HOW IT'S RECORDED. OKAY, OKAY. I THINK THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS ASKING IS I, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE, I'VE ALSO SEEN IT TO WHERE YOU CAN EMPLOY A LIKE EXPENSE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND IN THERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY LIKE SET THE REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT WAY NO ONE CAN ACTUALLY SUBMIT FOR SOMETHING UNLESS THEY FILL OUT ALL THE REQUIRED PARTS OF IT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S MORE MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE SYSTEMS THAT WE COULD ADOPT THAT WILL FORMALIZE THIS, THAT THERE ARE SYSTEMS THAT YOU CAN ADOPT, WORKFLOW SYSTEMS THAT ARE PRETTY SIMPLE PROJECT MANAGEMENT TYPE, YOU KNOW, WORKFLOWS THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. PURCHASE CARDS TEND TO HAVE VERY FORMALIZED TRACKING OF THIS, BUT FROM AN EXPENSE EMPLOYEE REIMBURSEMENT, THERE ARE VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARES, I MEAN, THAT ARE NOT SUPER EXPENSIVE, THAT CAN BE USED TO TRACK THAT FROM A WORKFLOW. SO YOU CAN REALLY TRACK AN AUDIT TRAIL OF HOW THAT WAS APPROVED. YEAH. AND WE HAVE SYSTEMS LIKE SAP CONCUR, WHICH IS USED BY A LOT OF DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL, AND OTHER SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICTS WHERE YOU CAN UPLOAD THE RECEIPTS TO THOSE. SO YOU CAN HAVE ALL YOUR SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND THE WORKFLOW ALL IN ONE. AGAIN, THERE'S A COST TO THAT. AND SO LOOKING AT REALLY HOW MUCH TRAVEL WE'RE DOING, HOW MUCH OF THOSE EXPENSES THAT WE NEED TO TRACK. IF, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY FOR IF SOMEONE'S TRAVELING A LOT OUTSIDE THE AREA AND OUTSIDE THE STATE, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WHERE THEY GET VERY ABUNDANT. AND SO IF IT'S REALLY KIND OF ASSESSING WHAT THE NEED IS BASED ON THE TRAVEL HABITS THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I CAN ANSWER MORE TO THAT. WE WE JUST IMPLEMENTED A NEW WORKFLOW FOR OUR TRAVEL. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY 
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USING THAT. IT WAS ON A TEST BASIS RIGHT NOW WITH JUST ONE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE DO PLAN ON IMPLEMENTING THAT CITYWIDE. AND IT DOES HAVE A WORKFLOW. AND SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THE EMPLOYEE TURNS IN THEIR PER DIEM OR THEIR TRAVEL GOES TO THEIR DEPARTMENT HEAD. THEN IT COMES OVER TO FINANCE TO BE PAID. AND ALSO WE DO HAVE A TRAVEL POLICY. IT WAS JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED IN OCTOBER OF 2025. SO A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WAS BEFORE WE HAD THIS THIS NEW AND UPDATED TRAVEL POLICY. SO A LOT OF IT WILL BE CORRECTED. SO GOING FORWARD, THERE WILL BE A BIG CHANGE. OKAY, AWESOME. THANK YOU. I REALLY LIKE TO HEAR THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. WHERE ARE WE AT? SUMMARY. WHAT ARE WE DOING? YEAH. JUST IN SUMMARY, WE DID HAVE CONCURRENCE OF THE OF MANAGEMENT WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS OF OUR 11 FINDINGS. 
          MANAGEMENT DID AGREE. AND THE IMPLEMENTATION EFFORTS HAVE STARTED TAKING PLACE AS YOU HAVE HEARD AND WILL CONTINUE IN THE ANTICIPATED COMPLETION FOR REMEDIATION OF MOST OF THE CONDITIONS IS FOR NOVEMBER 2026 TIME FRAME. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S REALLY THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER FOR YOU? I THINK IT WAS. THANK YOU. THIS WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. I THINK IT WAS SHOWED A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HOPEFULLY. ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THEN OKAY. 
          AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT'LL COME BACK AT SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE OR CHANGE, MAYBE A CHARTER AMENDMENT, WHO KNOWS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE PROCEED, IS IT POSSIBLE TO TAKE LIKE A 510 MINUTE BREAK? IS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL RECONVENE HERE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. T 
          [11) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding presentation concerning the security at city council meetings as requested by City Council on 4/16/2026.]
THANK YOU GUYS. WE ARE BACK AND WE ARE AT AGENDA ITEM 11. RECEIVER REPORT. HOLD THE DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING PRESENTATION CONCERNING THE SECURITY AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AS REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL ON 416 2026 ITEM PRESENTED. CHIEF BARNETT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE, FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BRING THIS COUNCIL DIRECTED ITEM BACK FOR YOUR ATTENTION. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, COUNCIL ASKED US TO LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS TO ENHANCE SECURITY HERE IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY COUNCIL BUILDING. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS ITEM PRESENTS MULTIPLE SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS AND OPTIONS, AND ASSOCIATED OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT ARE INTENDED TO IMPROVE THE LIFE SAFETY, PROTECT INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONTROLLED ACCESS CAPABILITIES HERE WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THE MUNICIPAL COURT FACILITIES. THE MEASURES SHOULD ENHANCE PROTECTION FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS, STAFF, COURT PERSONNEL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC DURING PUBLIC MEETINGS AND COURT OPERATIONS, WHILE MAINTAINING THE FUNCTIONALITY AND THE APPEARANCE OF THE FACILITIES. STEVE BARNETT. PLEASE DON'T KILL ME. BUT COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA DID BRING TO MY ATTENTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS BROUGHT THIS ITEM. AND SO THE QUESTION WOULD REMAIN SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL HE IS AT THE MEETING? IT IS CERTAINLY YOUR PREROGATIVE. I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS A PRESENTATION ONLY AND NOT ASKING FOR A VOTE. OR WE MIGHT BE ASKING FOR SOME GENERAL DIRECTION SO THAT WE COULD BRING BACK FUTURE ACTIONS. SO THAT GUIDANCE IS HELPFUL. SO IT IS ENTIRELY YOUR CALL AND WE'LL DO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. 
          AS LONG AS WE DON'T. YEAH. AS LONG AS WE JUST HOLD OFF ON ANY VOTING. IF YOU JUST WANT TO GIVE US THE I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, WE I THINK WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION AND THEN KIND OF WHATEVER DIRECTION WE'RE GIVEN AS A WHOLE. WE WANT TO BRING BACK SOME MORE SPECIFICS. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION. WE'LL KEEP IT BRIEF THOUGH. BUT WE DO WANT TO BE SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE OPTIONS AND SOME POTENTIAL COSTS, DEPENDING ON WHICH OPTIONS YOU LIKE BETTER THAN OTHERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL CERTAINLY PRESENT THAT EITHER TO HIM OR BRING IT BACK HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE. THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD INCLUDE PASSIVE BALLISTIC PROTECTION MEASURES FOR YOU TO CONSIDER SOME BALLISTIC RESISTANT GLAZING UPGRADES TO THE WINDOWS, WEAPONS SCREENING CAPABILITIES IF YOU CHOOSE, AND SOME ASSOCIATED STAFFING REQUIREMENTS NECESSARY TO TO SUPPORT CERTAIN SCREENING OPTIONS. SHOULD YOU DIRECT STAFF TO DO THAT? HISTORICALLY, THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THE PUBLIC MEETING FACILITIES HERE AT CITY HALL HAVE REMAINED INTENTIONALLY OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          HOWEVER, INCREASING INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE DIRECTED TOWARDS GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND JUDICIAL FACILITIES NATIONWIDE HAVE LED MANY MUNICIPALITIES TO EVALUATE THEIR ENHANCED PROTECTIVE MEASURES IN PLACE AT THEIR FACILITIES. THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'LL HEAR TONIGHT REPRESENT LAYERED SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS INTENDED TO PROVIDE BOTH DETERRENCE AND PROTECTIVE CAPABILITIES, WITHOUT FUNDAMENTALLY ALTERING THE PUBLIC NATURE OF YOUR COUNCIL OPERATIONS. SO WITH ME TONIGHT, I HAVE COMMANDER DANIEL GOODING. HE'S A 16 YEAR PLUS VETERAN OF THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. HE SERVED ON THE JOINT OPERATIONS SWAT TEAM. HERE WE HAVE WITH HAYS COUNTY, SAN MARCOS AND BUDA. HE HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN SECURITY PLANNING, AND HE'S GOING TO BE THE LEAD ON THE PRESENTATION, IF I MAY. SO COMMANDER GOODING WILL COME FORWARD. THANK YOU. HELLO. GOOD 
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EVENING AGAIN, COMMANDER GOODING, FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION, CHIEF. 
          I'LL JUST START OFF WITH THE FIRST COUPLE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US. 
          THE FIRST ONE BEING THE DAYS THAT YOU'RE SITTING BEHIND, COULD HAVE BALLISTIC PANELS INSTALLED. I RECOMMEND THE RIFLE RATING BE A LEVEL FOUR. SO THINK ABOUT YOUR AR 15 STYLE WEAPONS. IT WOULD NOT AFFECT THE COSMETIC DISPLAY OF IT. THERE WOULD BE SOME. MOUNTING ON THE ON THE BACK END OF IT AND MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING DOES GET THROUGH IT, BUT THAT'D BE THE FIRST OPTION. GREAT BENEFIT OF IT IS IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE APPEARANCE. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF. IT JUST HAS A VERY MINIMAL IMPACT TO IT. THE SECOND ONE BEING THE BALLISTIC WINDOWS THAT YOU SEE AROUND US, THE ONE ON THIS SIDE, THE TWO IN THE BACK. AND THEN ACTUALLY BOTH DOORS IS WHAT WE QUOTED. I BELIEVE THAT WAS AROUND 500 AND SOMETHING SQUARE FEET OF PANELING THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE FRAMING TO GO WITH IT TO SUPPORT THE LEVEL FOUR, WHICH IS ALSO RIFLE RATED PANELING ON IT. IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE ANY WOODEN FRAMING, ANY ALARM SYSTEMS, ANY DOOR ACCESSORIES THAT WE CHOSE TO DO IN THE ADA OPENING OF IT, BUT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE OF FACILITIES TO GET THOSE HOW WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE COSMETICALLY. BUT THIS WOULD JUST BE THE BALLISTIC GLASS AND THEN THE FRAMING TO GO ALONG WITH IT. THIRD OPTION WOULD BE A METAL DETECTOR. THIS IS A HIGHER END ONE. THIS IS NOT A THE HIGHEST. CERTAINLY THEY HAVE VERY SOPHISTICATED SYSTEMS NOW, BUT THIS IS A VERY GOOD AND RECOMMENDED SYSTEM THAT'S USED LOCALLY. IT AGAIN WOULD SCREEN FOR WEAPONS OR WHATEVER SETTINGS WE WANTED TO PUT IT AT. THERE IS POSSIBILITY FOR FALSE ALARMS. THIS WOULD REQUIRE AGAIN, ADDITIONAL SCREENING. AFTER THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF, WHICH I'LL DISCUSS MORE. THIS WOULD BE PLACED OUT IN THE LOBBY. EVERYBODY THAT CAME INTO THE BUILDING, WE WOULD AGAIN SCREEN DURING CERTAIN THINGS COULD BE THIS MEETING DEFINITELY FOR MUNICIPAL COURT. WHENEVER THEY HAVE THAT IN HERE. WE WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO CHANGE PROCEDURES HERE. THERE WOULD BE ONE ENTRY INTO THE BUILDING, MAYBE NOT FOR FOR STAFF AND COUNCIL, BUT ONE FOR FOR CITIZENS. THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN HERE, BE ONE ENTRANCE, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE EXITS. BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE MULTIPLE OFFICERS IN ADDITION TO THE TWO THAT WE HAVE IN HERE AS MINIMUM STAFFING, WE'D HAVE SEVERAL OUTSIDE AS WELL. JUST DOING THAT SCREENING. I HAVE A QUESTION. THESE METAL DETECTORS, ARE THEY GOING TO CATCH LIKE IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY HAS A GUN? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. BECAUSE GUNS ARE ALLOWED IN COUNCIL MEETINGS. THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR COURT LICENSED OR COURT IS ZERO UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY THE JUDGE FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS. THERE ARE IF YOU HAVE A LICENSE TO CARRY PERMIT, YOU WOULD BE PERMITTED, I BELIEVE, UNDER CHAPTER 46 OF THE PENAL CODE AND THEN LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS ARE ALLOWED AS WELL, SO THEY CANNOT OPEN CARRY. HERE YOU MAY OPEN CARRY IF YOU HAVE A LICENSE TO CARRY. EVEN THOUGH TEXAS IS AN OPEN CARRY STATE. YES, MA'AM. 
          IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE TO CARRY, THERE IS A CHAPTER 42 THAT TALKS ABOUT PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED, SO IT IS PROHIBITED TO CARRY IT IN A GOVERNMENTAL OPEN MEETING. UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE A LICENSE OR YOU'RE A POLICE OFFICER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. THERE ARE STILL SOME BENEFITS TO GETTING A LICENSE OVER THE CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY THAT THE CITY THAT THE STATE ADOPTED. SO IF YOU HAVE A CONCEALED OR OPEN CARRY LICENSE, YOU ARE ABLE TO CARRY IN A FEW PLACES THAT OTHER PEOPLE CANNOT. THIS IS ONE OF THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN AGAIN, JUST SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THE COST FOR A METAL DETECTOR. CURRENTLY WITH THE TWO MINIMUM STAFFING OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE INSIDE THE CHAMBERS THROUGHOUT THE MEETING, I HAD TO DO SOME AVERAGING ABOUT HOW LONG MEETINGS TYPICALLY LAST. SO, YOU KNOW, I DID SIX HOURS. AND THEN SO THE MAXIMUM PAY RATE FOR THAT. NOW, THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE THE BENEFITS OR SOFT PAYS THAT WE KIND OF JUST DISCUSSED, BUT JUST PAY RELATED WOULD BE 930 FOR BOTH OFFICERS, NOT INDIVIDUALLY. IF WE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING OUTSIDE OF THE LOBBY, ESTIMATING AGAIN TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICERS. SO THE TOTAL PER MEETING WOULD BE 1868 WITHOUT BENEFITS AND SOFT PAYS AND ALL THAT STUFF THAT MAY COME INVOLVED WITH IT. BUT THIS IS AGAIN, THEIR OVERTIME RATE BECAUSE THIS IS AN EXTRA DUTY THAT WE GIVE THEM. THIS. WE ASKED FOR COMPARABLES FOR CITIES THAT ARE AROUND US. I DID LEARN THAT SAN MARCOS PD HAS ONE OFFICER. THEY DON'T DO ANY WEAPONS SCREENING. THIS IS THEIR MINIMUM STAFFING. BEAUTY PD ADDITIONALLY HAS ONE OFFICER WITH NO WEAPONS SCREENING. NEW BRAUNFELS POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE IS A CORRECTION. I LEARNED AFTER THIS THAT THE INFORMATION I HAD WASN'T WASN'T COMPLETE, BUT THEY HAVE TWO MINIMUM OFFICERS AND THEN THEY 
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ALSO DO WEAPONS SCREENING. SO THEY DO HAVE A METAL DETECTOR AT NEW BRAUNFELS, AND THEY WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A WAND FOR THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING. AND THEN AUSTIN POLICE HAS A MINIMUM OF TWO. I KNOW I WAS TALKING TO THE GUYS, THEY HAVE SEVERAL IN THE BUILDING INSIDE THEIR CITY HALL. SO BUT THIS IS JUST TWO DEDICATED TOWARDS IT. AND THEN NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT THEY HAVE OTHER CITY STAFF THAT DO THEIR METAL DETECTOR SCREENING INSIDE BEFORE YOU GET INTO CITY HALL. AND WHAT DO WE DO? WE HAVE TWO OFFICERS AGAIN, MINIMUM STAFFING. AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE SEVERAL HERE PERIODICALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETINGS. WE'VE TRAINED OUR GUYS HOW TO HOW TO RESPOND APPROPRIATELY, WHAT TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR. WE DO COMMUNICATE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO SUSPECT WEAPONS AND STUFF, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE OUR LEGAL AUTHORITY EXISTS TO, TO GO APPROACH SOMEBODY BECAUSE THEY POSSIBLY CAN CURE IT HERE. OKAY. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE TWO OFFICERS THAT'S AT EACH MEETING. OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO AGAIN, WE DO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS. AGAIN, THERE COULD BE ALL THREE THAT YOU APPROVE OR 1 OR 2 OR ANY OF THE SECURITY MEASURES PROPOSED. AGAIN, WE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE'RE FREE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER GOSA. 
          COUNCILMEMBER MEDINA FOR METAL DETECTORS, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WE HAVE DIFFERENT DOORS HERE. WOULD IT BE ON THE OUTSIDE? DOORS WOULD BE ON THE DOORS COMING IN HERE? HOW WOULD THAT LOOK? I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE LESS IMPACTFUL TO HAVE IT ON ONE OF THE EXTERIOR DOORS, POSSIBLY THE ADA DOOR. THAT'S TO THE SOUTH HERE. WE CAN CHANGE IT. WE CAN CERTAINLY DEVELOP PROCEDURES AND POLICIES. THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING IT JUST OUTSIDE THIS DOOR IS THAT IT WOULD CONSTANTLY BE OPEN AND CLOSED. AND COULD IT BE IMPACTFUL TO THE MEETING ITSELF? AND HOW WOULD THAT INTERFERE OR DISRUPT WITH THE EVERYDAY LIFE OF THE CITY, WITH PEOPLE COMING AND GOING FOR WORK, FOR PAYING THEIR WATER BILL? WOULD THEY BE TURNED OFF DURING THOSE TIMES? THEY'RE ON CASTERS, SO CERTAINLY WOULD BE ROLLED OUT OF THE WAY AND ONLY PUT BACK PUT IN PLACE WHENEVER THEY'RE NEEDED. OKAY. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. FOR A CITY OUR SIZE, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THAT'S A LITTLE ON THE EXTREME, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS. OKAY. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? FEEDBACK. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. I REMEMBER IN SPEAKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS AND I, MAYOR PRO TEM TO BE A SIN. I KNOW HE'S NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK HE HAD DISCUSSED, ASIDE FROM SOME OF THE LIKE, MATERIAL THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, HE HAD DISCUSSED LIKE TRAININGS OR WHATNOT. AND SO I WAS THINKING MAYBE WE COULD GET SOME INFORMATION ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY. SO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STANDS READY TO PROVIDE TRAINING TO CITY COUNCIL ON PROCEDURES THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE DURING THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY IN THIS ROOM. IT'S CERTAINLY TIME NOW, WE HAVE SOME NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE SCHEDULE THAT. AND WE THEN WE GO OVER THAT. WE HAVE PROCEDURES THAT WE THINK WILL HELP KEEP YOU SAFE IN THE IN THE ROOM. AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO RESPOND. AND WE ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT PROCEDURES WE ARE LOOKING FOR FROM PARTICULARLY THE MAYOR OR THE PERSON LEADING THE MEETING, TO LET US KNOW THAT IT IS TIME NOT IN, NOT IN AN OBVIOUS EMERGENCY, BUT PERHAPS WHEN THE COURT FEELS THAT SOMEBODY IS OUT OF PLACE OR OUT OF LINE FOR THE COURT DECORUM, AND WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL DEEMS NECESSARY, THEY WOULD TAKE CERTAIN STEPS THAT WE ENACT, AND THEN WE'LL GET YOU SAFELY TO A PLACE WHILE WE TAKE CARE OF THAT MATTER. OKAY. BUT THAT THAT STANDS READY AND AVAILABLE NOW, AND THERE'S NO COST TO THAT. IT'S CONDUCTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE YOU SEE HERE HAS A COST, AS COMMANDER GOODING PRESENTED, IF YOU WANT TO DO THE BALLISTIC WINDOW UPDATES, THERE'S A COST TO THAT. THERE'S A COST TO THE BALLISTIC SHIELDING HERE THAT WE COULD PUT ON THIS DAIS THAT WOULD PROVIDE THAT PROTECTION BELOW. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY THE METAL SCREENING OPPORTUNITIES THERE AS WELL. 
          OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING FOR US. I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE BOMB SCARE SCARE HERE AND HAD TO DECIDE WHETHER TO VACATE OR STAY, THERE WAS GREAT CONFUSION ABOUT WHETHER THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, WHETHER THE AUDIENCE WAS GOING TO VACATE OR THEY NEEDED TO BE STAY IN PLACE. IF WE WERE GOING TO GO TO THE BACK WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE WERE GOING TO GO, WHEN WE WERE GOING TO COME BACK OUT, AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE. AND SO I REALLY DO THINK WE COULD USE SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. WE STAND READY FOR THAT. SO IT'LL JUST BE A SCHEDULING AND TO FIT YOUR SCHEDULES. BUT WE'RE READY TO DO THAT. OKAY. I DO WANT TO STATE THAT I REACHED OUT TO THE FBI REGARDING THAT, THAT BOMB SCARE LAST YEAR AND JUST GOT CLARIFICATION AND UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO THE CITY AND WE HAD SAID, HEY, THIS IS THIS, WE FEEL LIKE THIS 
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WAS NOT A REAL THREAT. AND IN THAT CONVERSATION, THE FBI AGENT SAID SHE WOULD GLADLY COME AND GIVE US ADDITIONAL FREE TRAINING. SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOU GUYS TRAINING ON CERTAIN THINGS, BUT I IF WE REALLY WANT THAT, THAT KIND OF INSIGHT, SHE SAID. ALL WE NEED TO DO IS SEND HER AN EMAIL. SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT, I CAN GIVE THAT EMAIL TO PEREZ, AND THEN PEREZ CAN SET THAT UP AS WELL. AND MAYBE WE CAN JUST MAKE A WHOLE DAY OUT OF IT. COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS YES, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S A REAL THREAT. AND THE, THE WAY THAT THAT PARTICULAR ONE WAS WORDED, IT WAS POTENTIALLY A LOCAL RESIDENT. SO IT WAS IT WAS ALARMING. AND THE INFORMATION WAS VERY SPECIFIC. AND I THINK THAT WE WE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY, BUT WE WEREN'T EXACTLY SURE WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT. SURE. I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION AND WE AGREE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA, FOR THE BALLISTIC FIBERGLASS PANEL THAT GOES BELOW, NOT THE ONE THAT COMES ABOVE FOR ON THE PURCHASE ORDER THAT WE HAVE OR NOT THE PURCHASE ORDER. BUT ON THE QUOTE THAT WE HAVE, DOES THAT 12,000 INCLUDE THE INSTALLATION OR IS THAT PURELY JUST FOR THE GLASS ITSELF OR THE PANEL ITSELF FOR THE PANELS? MY BAD. YES, MA'AM. IT INCLUDED INSTALLATION AND ALL THE FRAMING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE WEIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT I'M GOING TO BE HONEST. SOMEONE'S GOING TO SHOOT ME. THEY'RE GOING TO SHOOT ME HERE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SHOOT ME ON MY FEET. SO I KIND OF I KIND OF GET WORRY ABOUT LIKE SPENDING MONEY IF LIKE, IF WE'RE, IF I WANT TO PROCEED IN A WAY THAT IS PROTECTIVE, I DO LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO DECIDE TO DO METAL DETECTORS, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE'RE REALLY AT THAT POINT NOW, BUT I DO APPRECIATE BEING PROACTIVE IN IT, JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE STUFF FROM COMING IN TO BEGIN WITH AND BEING ABLE TO REGULATE THAT. AND IF THEY DO HAVE A GUN, THEY HAVE THEIR LICENSE. AND SO I YEAH, I'M NOT TOO SURE I CAN GET DOWN WITH THE PROTECTION. 
          MY, MY FEET, NO ONE CAN SEE IT, BUT MY FEET CAN'T EVEN TOUCH THE GROUND. SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOOT, SHOOT AT MY FEET. SO AND IF I WERE GOING TO DO THE PROTECTION, MAYBE UP HERE. BUT AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THAT FOR ME, I HAVE A VERY INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RESIDENTS. 
          I WANT TO TALK TO THEM, SEE THEM AND, AND, AND TRYING TO BE PROTECTIVE TOO. I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS BECAUSE HE HAS A DIFFERENT MENTALITY THAN I DO. 
          AND SO WE DO. WE DID MAKE SURE WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT BEING PREPARED AND BEING PROACTIVE. AND I WANT TO I WANT TO RESPECT THAT TOO AS WELL. BUT JUST TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT. AND I KNOW OUR CITY, FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE WE'RE SAFE, WE'RE GROWING. BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO BRING ISSUES INTO THE CITY THAT DON'T QUITE EXIST AND BALANCE THAT OUT WITH PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE, THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY AS WELL. SO I DON'T KNOW, DO YOU GUYS NEED ANY DIRECTION FROM US? SO I THINK WHAT OUR OUR HOPE IS, IS THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PREPARE SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC TO WHERE YOU COULD AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE OR THE, THE FINANCIAL DIRECTION FOR ANY OF THESE, THAT'S KIND OF, I THINK, THE DIRECTION WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          WHAT WHAT APPETITE DO YOU HAVE FOR ANY OF THESE? WHICH ONES ARE TOO MUCH? AND YOU WANT. 
          BECAUSE WE CLEARLY WENT TO AN EXTREME AND WE KNEW WE DID THAT. WHICH ONES ARE REALLY OFF THE TABLE FOR CONSIDERATIONS? WHICH ONES WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE MORE SPECIFICS AND THE QUOTES AND MAYBE 3 OR 4 QUOTES FOR THAT PARTICULAR PRODUCT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE DIRECTION OF WHERE'S WHERE'S THE MEDIUM OF WHERE WE WANT TO REALLY CONSIDER SOMETHING. AND WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK FOR A POTENTIAL VOTE. COUNCILMEMBER GARZA, I WANTED TO KNOW IF ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT HAD THE BALLISTIC GLASS OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER BULLETPROOFING THINGS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? I'M REALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF HAVING THE METAL DETECTORS, BUT IT JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING ABOUT THE OTHER TWO ITEMS. SO WE DIDN'T ASK THAT, SINCE THEY MIGHT NOT WANT TO DIVULGE WHAT SECURITY MEASURES THEY HAVE IN PLACE FOR THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS OR NOT. OKAY, SO WE DIDN'T REALLY ASK THAT I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. I WOULD SAY IF YOU GET THE LOWER ONE, THE INTENT REALLY WOULD BE TO GIVE YOU A SAFE HAVEN TO AT LEAST DROP FOR A MINUTE AND WE GET YOU TO THE SAFE LOCATION. THE OTHER ONE IS WHAT GLASS AROUND THE BUILDING THAT'S IN YOUR ROOM DO YOU WANT PROTECTED? AND HE ALSO INCLUDED THE WINDOWS, EVEN AROUND MUNICIPAL COURT, BECAUSE THEY DO DEAL WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SOMETIMES UPSET OR ANGRY AND POSE A POTENTIAL DANGER TO THAT STAFF. SO YOU HAVE A BIG QUOTE FOR WINDOWS, AND THEN THE REST WAS THE MAGNETOMETER. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS I DO KNOW THAT BUDDHA PROTECTS THE DAIS, SO THEY HAVE THE PROTECTION SHIELDS UNDERNEATH THE DAIS, AND THE TRAINING FOR THEM IS DUCK. YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A THREAT, YOU NEED TO GET UNDER THE DAIS AND YOUR OFFICERS WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU FROM THERE. AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE, I THINK, OF OUR JUDGE AND COURT STAFF. I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT IDEA. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT PURSUED. IT'S RELATIVELY 
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INEXPENSIVE. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET. RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A REALLY HARD FINANCIAL PLACE. AND AGAIN, TRYING TO BALANCE THAT OUT WITH OUR SAFETY, I THINK IS IMPORTANT. BUT MAYBE IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS I MEAN, IF YOU LIKE THE KEVLAR AT THE BOTTOM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. 
          MAYBE PUTTING THAT INTO THE BUDGET. SURE. OKAY. ARE YOU GUYS OKAY WITH THAT? I COULD BE OPEN TO THAT. THE WINDOWS, I FEEL LIKE WOULD BE JUST KIND OF AN EXTREME AT THIS TIME TOO, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DON'T KNOW OUR FUTURE OF THE BUILDING. ARE WE REMODELING? ARE WE TEARING IT DOWN? BUILDING NEW? I'D HATE TO PUT IN $100,000 OF WINDOWS AND THEN THE BUILDING GETS BULLDOZED. IN TWO YEARS, COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS, I WOULD WONDER IF WE COULD PUT ANY. 
          SCREENING ON THE WINDOWS SO THAT, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT TIME, PEOPLE CANNOT SEE FROM THE OUTSIDE IN, GIVES YOU LESS OF A TARGET. SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LOOK AT THAT JUST FROM A COSMETIC STANDPOINT, BUT FROM A BULLET PROTECTION PROGRAM. YOU HAVE SOME OF THOSE COSTS. IF IT'S JUST A MIRRORING, THAT KIND OF CHANGES THE VIEW AT NIGHT. WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT AS A SECURITY MEASURE SINCE IT WOULDN'T STOP ANYTHING COMING THROUGH THE GLASS. OURS WAS MORE PROTECTIVE. YEAH, BUT THEY WOULDN'T THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE THEIR TARGET IS. SURE. WE'VE DONE SOMETHING SIMILAR. JUST TINT THE WINDOWS AT THE LIBRARY SO THAT THEY CAN'T SEE IN. AND IT'S KIND OF MIRRORS BACK, BUT IT ALSO HELPS WITH THE SUNSHINE COMING IN AND, AND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IT? NOT LIKE PARTICULARLY NOW WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE ON IN HERE, BUT IT'S DARK OUTSIDE. THAT MAY BE A DIFFERENT. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE THEM, BUT THEY CAN SEE US. ABSOLUTELY. COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA YEAH, I THINK I WAS THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE WINDOWS, ESPECIALLY AS COUNCILMEMBER MOLINA POINTED OUT, IF WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE OF THIS BUILDING, I DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT MUCH INVESTMENT INTO IT IF IT'S UP IN THE AIR JUST YET. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT THE PANELS THAT ARE BELOW. SO IT GIVES US AN OPTION TO DROP, I THINK WOULD BE NICE. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE METAL DETECTORS, IF WE CAN PUT THEM ON A COASTERS, THAT ALSO LETS ME KNOW THAT WE COULD ALSO USE THEM IN OTHER PLACES. RIGHT? AND SO I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT LIKE, HOW IS HOW IT IS THAT WE WANT TO PREPARE MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME OF OUR BIGGER EVENTS, RIGHT? LIKE, DO WE WANT TO HAVE LIKE MORE SAFETY ENFORCEMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT? SO I DO THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO THE METAL DETECTORS AS WELL. LIKE I SAID, ONLY BECAUSE YOU CAN USE THEM IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. AND NOT JUST HERE IS EVERY, IF I MAY ASK, IS EVERYBODY COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA, SINCE WE ARE SO CLOSE TO BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT WE GET ALL THE PRICING, INCLUDE THAT IN THE BUDGET AND LET THAT BE THAT. LET THAT BE THE TIME THAT DISCUSSION IS HAD. OR DO YOU ALL WANT IT SEPARATE AND AND MORE OF A SINGULAR ITEM ON AN AGENDA? BECAUSE WE'RE CERTAINLY WE CAN GET ALL OF IT AND BE BACK. I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU. I THINK THE BUDGET SEASON IS A GOOD TIME. WE'LL KNOW WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY, AND THAT WAY IT CAN BE A WHOLE CONVERSATION OF ITSELF. OKAY, I KNOW WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO THAT. YEAH. YES, MA'AM. I DO APPRECIATE SOME OF THE MEASURES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN, LIKE HAVING THE PARKING RIGHT HERE BY THE DOOR AND OFFICERS WALKING US TO OUR CARS. YES, MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. GLAD TO DO THAT. AND WE'LL COORDINATE THAT TRAINING WITH YOUR SCHEDULES AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. 
          [12) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the Budget Performance Report as of May 31, 2026 for the City's four major operating Funds to include General Fund, Water Utility Fund, Wastewater Utility Fund, and Storm Drainage Utility Fund.]
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM 12. RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE BUDGET PERFORMANCE REPORT AS OF MAY 31ST, 2026, FOR THE CITY'S FOUR MAJOR OPERATING FUNDS TO INCLUDE GENERAL FUND, WATER FUND, WASTEWATER UTILITY FUND AND STORM DRAINAGE FUND ITEM PRESENTER HOLLY TORRES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL HOLLY TORRES, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FINANCE. I ALSO WANT TO INTRODUCE OR REINTRODUCE ANDY ALEJANDRO. HE IS THE INTERIM DEPUTY FINANCE DIRECTOR. HE'S WITH US THIS EVENING. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE FOUR MAJOR FUNDS THIS EVENING. IT WILL BE OUR FIRST MONTHLY BUDGET BRIEFING. I'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU EVERY MONTH TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND BRING THESE NUMBERS FORWARD. SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, SOME OF WHAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS MUCH MORE BUDGET FORWARD. BUT SOME IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT GENERAL LEDGER LINES OR WHAT'S BUILT INTO SOME OF THESE THINGS, ANDY IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER. I FIRST WANT TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THE FLOW OF THIS PRESENTATION. BEFORE WE GET INTO TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS BEGINNING THIS MONTH, AS I SAID, STAFF WILL PROVIDE A RECURRING MONTHLY FINANCIAL UPDATE FOR THE CITY'S FOUR MAJOR FUNDS. THAT IS TO INCLUDE THE GENERAL FUND, THE WATER FUND, THE WASTEWATER FUND, AND THE STORM DRAINAGE UTILITY FUND. THE PURPOSE OF THESE UPDATES IS TO PROVIDE GREATER TRANSPARENCY INTO THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR, RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL BUDGET DEVELOPMENT OR UNTIL YEAR END REPORTING. THESE BRIEFINGS ALLOW COUNCIL TO MONITOR FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE, IDENTIFY EMERGING ISSUES EARLY, EVALUATE FUND BALANCE TRENDS AND BETTER UNDERSTAND THE OPERATIONAL AND FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF DECISIONS BEING MADE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. MONTHLY 
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REPORTING ALSO SUPPORTS PROACTIVE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT BY ALLOWING STAFF AND COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY REVENUE TRENDS, EXPENDITURE PRESSURES AND POTENTIAL BUDGETARY CONCERNS BEFORE THEY BECOME SIGNIFICANT. FINANCIAL CHALLENGES. THESE MONTHLY UPDATES SERVE SEVERAL IMPORTANT PURPOSES. FIRST, THEY PROVIDE ONGOING VISIBILITY INTO ACTUAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES COMPARED TO THE ADOPTED BUDGET. SECOND, THEY ALLOW STAFF AND COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY FINANCIAL TRENDS EARLY, WHETHER THOSE TRENDS ARE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. EARLY AWARENESS PROVIDES MORE OPTIONS AND GREATER FLEXIBILITY IN RESPONDING. THIRD, THESE REPORTS SUPPORT INFORMED DECISION MAKING BY ENSURING COUNCIL HAS CURRENT FINANCIAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE WHEN CONSIDERING POLICY DECISIONS, BUDGET AMENDMENTS, CAPITAL INVESTMENTS AND SERVICE LEVEL DISCUSSIONS. FINALLY, THESE UPDATES REINFORCE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY BY PROVIDING CONSISTENT REPORTING ON THE CITY'S FINANCIAL CONDITION AND PROGRESS TOWARDS MEETING IT ADOPTED FINANCIAL POLICIES AND RESERVE TARGETS. AS ALWAYS, WE BEGIN THIS EVENING WITH THE GENERAL FUND COUNCIL. THE GENERAL FUND IS THE CITY'S PRIMARY OPERATING FUND AND SUPPORTS CORE MUNICIPAL SERVICES, INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY, PARKS, ADMINISTRATION, PLANNING, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS. THIS SLIDE PROVIDES A SUMMARY OF GENERAL FUND REVENUES THROUGH MAY 31ST, 2026. NOW, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NUMBERS, I WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THE LAY OF THE LAND. EACH OF THE FOUR MAJOR FUNDS WILL HAVE THE SAME FORMAT FOR THEIR SLIDES. YOU'LL NOTICE TO THE LEFT IS THE THE CATEGORIES LISTED IN THIS CASE, IT'S REVENUES. WE'VE BROKEN THE GENERAL FUND OUT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A LONGER FUND. SO WE'LL BREAK IT OUT INTO REVENUES, EXPENDITURES AND THEN FUND BALANCE. THE OTHER THREE FUNDS WILL ALL BE ON ONE SLIDE. SO YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER. THE SECOND AND THIRD COLUMNS TO THE RIGHT ARE THE TWO PREVIOUS YEAR ACTUALS. THE MIDDLE COLUMN IS THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR 2020 526, THE YEAR TO DATE WITH ENCUMBRANCE COLUMN IS THROUGH MAY 31ST, 2026. SO I WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS VERY CLEAR. FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THROUGH MAY 31ST. THEN WE HAVE YEAR TO DATE AS A PERCENT OF THE BUDGET. SO REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AS A PERCENTAGE OF HOW THEY ARE BUDGETED, AND THEN THE BUDGET THAT'S REMAINING AND THE PERCENT OF BUDGET REMAINING, EXCUSE ME. SO I'M GOING TO BEGIN FROM THE TOP AND WALK YOU DOWN THROUGH HIGHLIGHTS, THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED, THINGS THAT WE NOTICED, TRENDS THAT STAND OUT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC LINES, WE'RE CERTAINLY HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SO THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF REVENUE FOR THE GENERAL FUND IS PROPERTY TAXES. PROPERTY TAXES IS ONE OF THE LARGEST REVENUE STREAMS FOR THE GENERAL FUND, PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAXES HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE AND IN MOST IN MOST CITIES. SO YOU'LL NOTICE FOR PROPERTY TAXES, THE BUDGET IS $21.7 MILLION AND YEAR TO DATE THROUGH MAY 31ST, 2026, THE ACTUALS ARE $22.3 MILLION, SO THAT'S FAVORABLE. WE ARE TRENDING $600,000 OVER BUDGET. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES IS IT'S SEASONAL. AND SO JUST AS YOU PAY YOUR PROPERTY TAXES AT THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, THAT IS HOW WE RECEIVE THOSE TAXES AS WELL. SO WE, AT THIS POINT IN THE FISCAL YEAR, HAVE RECEIVED JUST ABOUT ALL THAT WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE. NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY SOME DOLLARS CAN'T TRICKLE IN, BUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AND YOU'LL SEE IN EACH MONTH GOING FORWARD IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF PROPERTY TAXES HAVE ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED. NOW, YOU SAID IT WAS POSITIVE, BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE WE'RE -602,000. WELL THE REVENUE SIDE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT AS A NEGATIVE BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY EXCEEDING IT. THAT'S FAVORABLE ON THE REVENUE SIDE. ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE IT WOULDN'T BE FAVORABLE. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. OKAY. SALES TAX. SO SALES TAX HAS SOME SEASONALITY TO IT AS WELL. WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE WITH SALES TAXES THE BUDGET IS $21.9 MILLION. WE ARE AT ABOUT $13.7 MILLION THROUGH MAY 31ST. THAT'S ABOUT 62.4% OF THE BUDGET. SO THROUGH MAY 31ST, WE'RE JUST ABOUT 67% THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR. RIGHT? SO THAT DOESN'T IT'S IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OF THE WAY THAT YOU ARE THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT THERE'S SEASONALITY TO SOME OF THESE THINGS. OKAY. SO FOR SALES TAX, THERE'S SEASONALITY BECAUSE HOLIDAY SHOPPING, WE SEE A SPIKE OR WE HOPE WE DO. AND WE TEND TO BACK TO SCHOOL SHOPPING. WE TEND TO SEE A SPIKE. SO WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT $1.7 MILLION A MONTH ON SALES TAX, WHICH WHICH MEANS HOWEVER, THOUGH WE ARE STILL ON TREND TO BE UNDER BUDGET FOR SALES TAX. OKAY. AND THEN I WON'T READ ALL OF THE REST OF THEM TO YOU. BUT 
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I DO WANT TO ALSO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT REVENUES. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, REVENUES. DEVELOPMENT REVENUES ARE NOT SEASONAL IN THE WAY THAT PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAXES ARE. SO THEY'RE BASED ON THE NUMBER AND VALUE OF RESIDENTIAL AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT COME TO THE CITY. AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, YOU'RE LOOKING AT LINES 14, 13, AND 14, I'M SORRY, CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION AND LAND USE PLANNING AND REVENUE. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TOTAL BUDGET OF THOSE IS ABOUT $6.9 MILLION. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUALS, YOU'LL SEE IT'S ABOUT 3.1 THROUGH MAY 31ST THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY RECOGNIZED IN REVENUE. SO WE'VE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING AND SEEING A DOWNWARD TREND IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT REVENUES. AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE THAT THROUGH MAY 31ST. THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY. AGAIN, I'LL COME FORWARD EACH MONTH. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE WE'LL TALK THROUGH THEM. YES, WE'D LOVE TO SEE AN UPTICK IN THAT. THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE ARE SEEING THROUGH MAY 31ST AND THEN TRANSFERS IN. 
          TRANSFERS IN IS BUDGETED AT ABOUT $15 MILLION. WE ARE HALFWAY THROUGH THAT. YOU'LL ALSO SEE AN ADDITIONAL TRANSFER COME IN AT THE END OF JUNE. THAT'LL BRING US TO 75%. AND THEN AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BE AT 100%. WE PROJECT AT THE BUDGET FOR TRANSFERS IN. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL SEE THERE. THAT BRINGS TOTAL REVENUES. THE BUDGET FOR REVENUES IS 63.5 MILLION. OF THAT, WE'VE RECOGNIZED 47.6%. AND THEN AGAIN, TRANSFERS IN IS ABOUT 50% BECAUSE WE DO IT ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, AND YOU'LL SEE IT COME IN AT 75, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT COME IN AT 100%. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT REVENUES BEFORE WE GO TO EXPENSES? COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. CAN YOU JUST HELP EXPLAIN HOW, I GUESS REVENUE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD BE LINES 13 AND 14, HOW THAT HAS LOOKED IN THE PAST, LIKE WHETHER OR NOT WE EXPECT IT TO CONTINUE TRENDING EVEN LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING AT THIS POINT, AND THEN ALSO TIE IT BACK TO THAT NINE POINT, THE NINE POINT, WHAT IS IT? TWO, SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. BUT THAT MILLION. YEAH, I THINK TO ANSWER THAT, I THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE OH, OH, YOU READ MY MIND. HERE WE ARE. YES. SO I'LL TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. BEAR WITH ME. I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THIS A LOT. SO GO AHEAD AND REPEAT THAT QUESTION IN EXPLAINING LINES 13 AND 14, WHICH WOULD BE OUR DEVELOPMENT REVENUE AS TO WHAT THAT TREND HAS BEEN. AND IF WE EXPECT IT TO CONTINUE DECREASING AND BECOME JUST LOWER AS THE MONTHS GO ON. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALREADY COMING IN UNDER, BUT DO WE EXPECT IT TO BE DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT? I THINK FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR IT IS GOING TO COME UNDER PROJECTION, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS IN THE HOPPER. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY ON THE CARRAWAY TRACT OR THE NEWQUEST DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S KEEPING US AFLOAT AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE THEIR THREE YEAR KIND OF PROJECTED BUILD OUT, SO WE KNOW WHAT BUILDINGS ARE GOING TO COME IN FOR PLAN, REVIEW AND CONSTRUCTION. THOSE ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS ON, ON BUDGET REVENUE SIDE. AS WE GET TOWARDS THE END OF NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE GOING TO KIND OF START COMPLETING THEIR BUILD OUT. SO, YOU KNOW, MY ESTIMATE IS, IS THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE TRENDS TO KIND OF DECREASE YEAR AFTER YEAR. IF YOU JUST LOOK AT WHERE OUR CITY OF KYLE IS, WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WE WERE TRENDING UP, PEAKING THROUGH COVID, WHICH IS KIND OF SIMILAR MOST CITIES. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF LAND OR THE AVAILABLE LAND THAT'S READY TO BE DEVELOPED IN, IN THE CITY, MOST VACANT TRACTS ARE VACANT FOR A REASON. THEY EITHER HAVE LOGISTICAL ISSUES WITH UTILITIES OR MIGHT BE SOMEONE ELSE'S CN FOR SEWER ASKING FOR WATER. THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN DRAINAGE AREAS. SO THESE THESE LAST FEW TRACKS PROBABLY WON'T POP AS QUICKLY AS WHAT WE'VE SEEN HISTORICALLY IN KYLE. SO MY GUT IS TELLING ME THAT, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE SEE A TREND DOWNWARD IN REVENUE OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON THE ECONOMY. THINGS ARE GOING ACROSS NATIONWIDE THAT ARE NOT REALLY POSITIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT. THAT COULD CHANGE AT ANY POINT. BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, MY FEELING EXPERIENCES THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT DOWNTURN. I DON'T SEE IT GOING OFF A CLIFF, BUT I DO SEE IT TRENDING. IT'S JUST WE'RE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE HARD PART IN THAT. I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO EXPLAIN TO, TO OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S HESITATION AROUND GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S ALSO HOW WE ALLEVIATE BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS FROM THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. AND SO IT'S TRYING TO 
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FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO. AND I THINK WITH THAT BEING SAID, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT REVENUE AND THAT THE 9.2 MILLION FIGURE THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US AS FAR AS LIKE HOW THE TWO ARE CONNECTED? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET SHORTFALL? YES, I THINK I THINK HISTORICALLY THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES ON THE BUDGET PROJECTIONS THAT THAT KIND OF WE OVER PROJECTED ON SOME OF THE REVENUE SIDE. I KNOW WE KIND OF CORRECTED THOSE TO TO COME BACK, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW, HOW, HOW MUCH YOU ALL HAVE SEEN OR WHEN THAT WAS. BUT I THINK MOST OF THAT, YOU KNOW, IS, IS YOU PLAN FOR A CERTAIN REVENUE, YOU MAKE DECISIONS, YOU MAKE, YOU ENACT PROJECTS OR POLICIES THAT HAVE A COST AND YOU BASE IT ON THAT REVENUE PROJECTION. AND SO WHEN THOSE REVENUE PROJECTIONS DON'T COME TO FRUITION, THAT'S WHERE YOU KIND OF GET INTO A BIG TROUBLE. SO AT THAT POINT, YOU, YOU KIND OF GET TO A POINT WHERE YOUR REVENUE SHORTFALL IS SO MUCH THAT IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, CUTTING EXPENDITURES ON PENS AND PENCILS. IT'S YOU'RE HAVING TO CUT PROJECTS AT SOME POINT. 
          AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION. OKAY. NO THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE. AND I FEEL LIKE MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE HERE IS, HOW DID WE GET HERE? AND I THINK FOLKS WILL THINK THAT THAT IS AN UNKNOWN. WHEREAS THE STORY THAT I GET FROM OUR STAFF IS THAT, WELL, NO, WE KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT INTO THE ETHER. SO THAT WAY PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE ANSWERS. LIKE YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTIONS, SEND US YOUR QUESTIONS, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE ANSWERS. BUT IT'S A LOT MORE HEALTHY TO HAVE THAT DIALOG GOING BACK AND FORTH VERSUS IT BEING LIKE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE. WE HAVE NO ANSWERS. WE HAVE NO EXPLANATION FOR THESE THINGS. AND I'M LIKE, I THINK WE DO. LET'S JUST GIVE OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SO I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. SO THEN JUST TO SUMMARIZE, FOR REVENUE AND TRANSFERS, THE APPROVED BUDGET WITH BOTH COMBINED IS $78.6 MILLION. AND THROUGH MAY 31ST, WE REALIZED $55.1 MILLION OF THAT. AGAIN, TRANSFERS WILL GO UP BY ANOTHER 25% AND THEN ANOTHER 25% THROUGH THE SECOND AND THIRD QUARTER. PROPERTY TAXES ARE ALL BUT IN THERE MAY BE SOME TRICKLE SALES TAX, ABOUT 1.7 MILLION ON AVERAGE A MONTH. DEVELOPMENT REVENUES YOU HEARD FROM JASON. MOST OTHER THINGS ARE HOLDING STEADY. WE DO SEE SOME UPTICK IN LIBRARY REVENUE. FOR EXAMPLE, SUMMER MONTHS ARE COMING. WE HAVE KIDS THROUGH LIBRARY CARDS. THERE'S EVENTS HAPPENING. WE ALSO SEE IT IN RECREATION PROGRAMS, ETC. SPECIAL EVENTS. KIDS ARE OUT AND ABOUT, FAMILIES ARE OUT AND ABOUT, AND THOSE INCUR FEES THAT BRING IN REVENUE TO THE CITY. BUT, BUT WHAT WE WANT IS FOR YOU TO HAVE A FULLY TRANSPARENT PICTURE OF THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE. OKAY. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT EXPENSES. OKAY, SO SAME FORMAT I MENTIONED. SO THE CATEGORIES ARE TO THE LEFT. 
          TWO YEARS OF ACTUALS BUDGET YEAR TO DATE THROUGH MAY 31ST, AND THEN THE PERCENTAGES IN THE REMAINDER. I WANT TO BEGIN WITH MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I THINK YOU'LL FIND THIS INFORMATION INTERESTING FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE DO HAVE IT ROLLED UP BY MAYOR AND COUNCIL TOTAL, BUT WE ALSO BREAK IT OUT SO YOU EACH CAN SEE YOUR OWN COST CENTER. AND WHAT I WOULD SAY IS BASED ON THE BUDGET COMPARED TO THE YEAR TO DATE THROUGH MAY 31ST, WE SEE MOST OF COUNCIL AND MAYOR DISTRICTS HOLDING OR, YOU KNOW, DISTRICTS HOLDING AROUND 50% OR EVEN LESS. AGAIN, WE'RE ALMOST 70% THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU ALL ARE VERY GOOD STEWARDS OF YOUR DOLLARS. AND I THINK YOU NEED TO HEAR THAT. IN FACT, I'M SORRY TOBIAS IS NOT HERE THIS EVENING. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT SIX, HE'S IN FACT THE LOWEST IN EXPENDITURES. SO NO CAUSE FOR CONCERN. THERE'S NOTHING THAT JUMPS OUT. AGAIN, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE VERY MINDFUL OF IT. AND AND WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. I ALSO WANT TO TALK THROUGH A FEW DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AGAIN. YES, MA'AM. BEFORE WE LEAVE THAT. YES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU SEE IN THE DIFFERENT MAYOR AND COUNCIL DISTRICT IN BUDGETS, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF THE MEMBER TO GO TO THINGS LIKE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE. THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THAT MONEY THERE. THAT IS FLEXIBLE. THAT IS TRUE. THEY'RE ALL WE'RE ALL PRETTY CLOSE. BUT TOBIAS, HIS SCHEDULE RARELY ALLOWS HIM TO GO UNDER ANY OF THOSE PLACES. SO AND I'M 
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AVAILABLE. SO I TEND TO GET I TEND TO GO TO THOSE. OF COURSE. NO, NO. I THINK YOU'RE ALL DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB. I THINK IT'S IT'S JUST GREAT FOR YOU ALL TO SEE THE NUMBERS, RIGHT. I'LL ALSO REMIND YOU AND I, I, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT I'M SORRY MISS. YES, MA'AM. I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT SOME OF OURS ALSO WERE FROM PREVIOUS COUNCIL BECAUSE THIS STARTED. THAT'S CORRECT. OCTOBER 1ST. SO THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. YEAH. AND ACTUALLY AND I ARE THE THE HOLDOVER. YEAH. AND IN FACT FOR THE PRIOR YEAR ACTUALS AS WELL, YOU CAN SEE THAT AS WELL. I THINK. COUNCILWOMAN GOZA THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. I, I ALSO MENTIONED, AND I, I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THIS, BUT ON THE FINANCIAL SERVICES PAGE, THERE'S A FINANCIAL TARGET ANALYSIS. YOU CAN SEE IT BY EVERY DEPARTMENT, MAYOR AND COUNCILORS REPRESENTED THERE FOR THE FINANCIAL TARGET ANALYSIS. IT'S UP TO DATE BY TODAY. IT UPDATES EVERY MORNING AROUND 4 A.M. SO IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING JUST FOR YOUR OWN DISTRICT, YOUR OWN CALL CENTER, IT'S ALWAYS THERE FOR YOU. OKAY, BUT WELL DONE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WANT TO TALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS. I WON'T, I WON'T DRAG YOU THROUGH EACH OF THEM, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF A FEW OF THEM. 
          SO FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, I'M NOT WHEN I WHEN I LOOK AT DEPARTMENTS, I'M NOT YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S SEASONALITY TO SOME OF THESE EXPENDITURES, JUST AS THERE ARE WITH REVENUE. 
          SO WITH SOMETHING THAT'S 70%, 72%, THAT'S NOT JUMPING OFF THE PAGE AT ME, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE MENTION ANIMAL SERVICES HAS A HAYS COUNTY ILA THAT'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY. THE BUDGET WAS 300 000. THE ACTUAL WAS 393. WHEN YOU HAVE A SMALL BUDGET LIKE THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, $100,000, IT SKEWS IT. IT SWAYS IT SOME. SO I WANT TO I WANT TO PROVIDE CONTEXT TO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING. THAT BEING SAID, THOUGH, WE SEE THOSE EXPENDITURES LARGE HAVE ALREADY BEEN RECOGNIZED, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT KIND OF SMOOTH OUT THROUGH THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING LARGE EXPENDITURES, BECAUSE OF COURSE, ANIMAL SERVICES IS NOT FULLY OPERATIONAL RIGHT NOW. IN ADDITION, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE. SO CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE JUMPED OFF THE PAGE AT ME AT 92.66%. 
          WE WENT BACK TO LOOK AT WHAT WAS DRIVING THAT. AND VERY SIMPLY, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AMBER WE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES WERE ABLE TO THEN TO GO. IN FACT, THAT SHE WAS HITTING THE WRONG CALL CENTER. SHE WAS HITTING CITY SECRETARY AS OPPOSED TO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SO IT IS NOT THE CITY SECRETARY'S OVERSIGHT. IT IS NOT CERTAINLY JUST ONE CORRECTION, THOUGH. SHE WAS NOT DOING IT HERSELF. NO. CORRECT. AND WE'VE SINCE CORRECTED THE COST CENTER, BUT THE EXPENSE THAT HIT BETWEEN THE RECOGNITION OF IT, THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED OUT. SO WE RECOGNIZED IT MONTHS AGO. WE'VE ASKED PAYROLL, OUR FRIENDS AND PAYROLL TO MAKE THAT MOVE HAPPEN. I HOPE WHEN I COME BACK BEFORE YOU AT THE END OF JUNE, THAT WE SEE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT KIND OF OFFSET. SO YOU'LL SEE CITY MANAGER COME UP A BIT APPROPRIATELY, AND YOU'LL SEE CITY SECRETARY COME DOWN BY THAT SAME PERCENTAGE. OKAY. 
          DOES THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. I WANT TO ALSO TALK A BIT ABOUT INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES. I, I CAN'T FIRST OF ALL SAY ENOUGH ABOUT MARCO. I, I BELIEVE HE'S IN THE ROOM. HIS STAFF IS FANTASTIC AND THEY SUPPORT THE CITY. EVERY FUND, ENTERPRISE OR GENERAL FUND ON HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE NEEDS THAT NEVER END. SO YOU MAY IMAGINE, THOUGH, THAT CONTRACT RENEWALS AND SOFTWARE RENEWALS AND LICENSING HAPPEN EARLIER IN THE FISCAL YEAR, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THEY'RE TYPICALLY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE LARGER EXPENSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN RECOGNIZED. AND SO HE'S NOT ANTICIPATING OTHER LARGE EXPENSES TO COME TO HIT HIS COST CENTER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SEE THAT IN WATER AND WASTEWATER. 
          WHEN I WALK YOU THROUGH THOSE, YOU'LL SEE IT HAS AN UPTICK, RIGHT? THAT KIND OF JUMPS OFF THE PAGE. BUT AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING UP IN PRICE. 
          THAT INCLUDES SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE. THE OTHER THING THOUGH TO MENTION IS AS PART OF OUR COST CONTAINMENT STRATEGY, WHICH WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU IN JULY, MARCO'S GROUP IS LOOKING AT EVERY SOFTWARE THAT THE CITY HAS FOR DUPLICATION, FOR REDUNDANCY, FOR USEFULNESS. 
          IS IT IS IT APPLICABLE ANYMORE? SO THEY HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THIS REAL MASSIVE SCRUB OF ALL THINGS CITY SOFTWARE RELATED THAT CAN IDENTIFY SAVINGS FOR FY 26 AND PARTICULARLY SAVINGS FOR FY 27 WITHOUT THE NEED TO RENEW THOSE LICENSES IN THAT SOFTWARE AGAIN, SO THAT WE WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. BUT I, I REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GAVE CREDIT TO MARCO AND HIS TEAM, WHO HAVE TAKEN THAT UPON THEMSELVES AS PART OF OUR COST CONTAINMENT TO HELP IDENTIFY JUST THE, THE LARGE SCOPE THAT CAN REALLY BE ADDRESSED AND THEIR SAVINGS 
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THAT ARE EMBEDDED THERE. AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT JUST, JUST VERY GENTLY LIBRARY SERVICES. OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T JUMP OFF THE PAGE TO ME, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THEIR EXPENSES. OF COURSE, THEY HAVE A HUGE SUMMER PROGRAM WITH A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS GOING ON AND FAMILIES. THOSE EXPENSES HAVE ALREADY HIT. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE REST OF IT WILL SMOOTH OUT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. AND THEN KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE DRIVER TO THAT, AND I SAY THIS GENTLY AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT THE THE BULLETPROOFING AND THE ALL OF THAT, THE DRIVER TO THAT IS IN LARGE PART DUE TO OVERTIME. WE ARE AWARE THAT WE HAVE GOT SOME CHALLENGES WITH OVERTIME, THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT HOW BEST TO ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. AND THEN SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT BRINGS US TO IS ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, A BUDGET OF 79 POINT, I THINK. THREE. I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON. I'M SORRY. WITH A YEAR TO DATE EXPENDITURE PLUS ENCUMBRANCE OF ABOUT 50.5. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT AT THE VERY, VERY BOTTOM LINE. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE THROUGH MAY 31ST. NOW, I WILL TELL YOU, I LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY. SO WHAT OUR REVENUES ARE COMING IN EARLIER IN THE FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE OF SOME SEASONALITY EXPENDITURES, UPTICK IN THE SUMMER FOR SOME DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT. AND AND THEY STILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SO WE'RE ALREADY LIKE I LOOKED TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK FUND BALANCE. NOW YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE CARRIED FORWARD THE 55.1. THAT'S THE REVENUES AND TRANSFERS IN AND THE 50.5 THAT'S THE EXPENSES AND TRANSFERS OUT. AND THAT THEN GIVES YOU A FUND BALANCE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE ESTIMATED FUND BALANCE OF 19.6, WHICH SEEMS AND FEELS VERY FAVORABLE. HOWEVER, AS REVENUES SLOW DOWN AND EXPENDITURES ACTUALLY TREND UP, YOU SEE THAT BEGINNING TO SHIFT. AND IN FACT, I LOOKED AT IT TODAY AND IT'S AT 13.3 ALREADY, JUST TWO WEEKS INTO JUNE BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS. SO I, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A FULL TRANSPARENT PICTURE THAT WHILE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LOOKS QUITE HEALTHY, THOSE TRENDS ARE BECOMING APPARENT AND THEY'RE IMPACTING THE FUND BALANCE EVERY DAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA, I HAD A QUESTION ON THE PREVIOUS EXPENDITURES FOR COUNCIL INITIATED PROGRAMS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THOSE PROGRAMS ARE? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE WE'RE BARELY SPENDING ANYTHING. YES. I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT. COUNCIL INITIATED PROGRAMS. WHAT'S BAKED INTO THAT NUMBER IS THE UBER PROGRAM. THERE IS $175,000 IN THERE AND A VERY TINY EXPENDITURE THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED OUT AND CORRECTED TO THE CORRECT COST CENTER. THAT IS WHY THAT IS THERE. SO WE WOULD WE WOULD BE CLEANING THAT UP TO BRING BACK FOR YOU WHEN WE BRIEF FOR JUNE. THAT'S WHAT'S BAKED INTO THAT NUMBER. OKAY. DOES THAT SORRY, I WAS TRYING TO THINK, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE. 
          BECAUSE IT WAS, I GUESS, A COUNCIL INITIATED PROGRAM. THE OF PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT LIKE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM THAT WE HAD OR WAS THAT A PILOT? I'M NOT SURE IF THAT CONTINUED. OH YEAH. 
          BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEIZER BROUGHT. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S AN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT. BUT THOSE EXPENSES HAVE BEEN MOVED OUT. RIGHT. COUNCIL INITIATED PROJECTS HAVE BEEN MOVED OUT. 
          WHAT'S REMAINING. AND THEY'VE BEEN MOVED OUT TO APPROPRIATE COST CENTERS. BUT THAT 170 500 $0 NEEDS TO BE MOVED OUT. SO IT'S APPROPRIATE CALL CENTER SO WE CAN TRACK THEM INDIVIDUALLY. 
          WHAT WAS HAPPENING WAS ALL THESE FUNDS WERE COMING IN TOGETHER, AND IT WAS MAKING IT VERY DIFFICULT TO TRACK THEM. SO NOW WE HAVE THEM IN APPROPRIATE COST CENTERS. 
          PERHAPS, ANDY, YOU CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ONE, WHERE IS IT LOCATED OR I GUESS WHICH WHICH CALL CENTER IS IT LOCATED? COUNCILMEMBER, THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM SHOULD BE IN THE BUILDING CODE DIVISION. OKAY. 
          BUDGET. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS REFLECTED. OKAY. NO, IT'S WHAT WE HAD WAS WE HAD MULTIPLE PROGRAMS FROM COUNCIL AND THEN WE HAD SORT OF THIS LUMP OF FUNDS, RIGHT. AND NOT REALLY A WAY TO PROPERLY TRACK THEM AND MONITOR THEM. SO THEY'VE BEEN MOVED OUT TO WHERE THEY SHOULD REALLY PROPERLY LIVE. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. OF COURSE. OKAY. SO WE TALKED ABOUT GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE AND HOW IT LOOKS QUITE FAVORABLE WHEN I BRIEF YOU IN JULY, I GUESS ON THE END OF JUNE. WHAT ARE WE IN JUNE NOW? YEAH. WHAT WE'LL SEE, YOU'LL YOU'LL BEGIN TO SEE THESE SHIFTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY, WATER UTILITY FUND. SO THERE IS THE SAME LAYOUT. SO CATEGORIES TWO YEARS OF ACTUALS, SAME SAME LAYOUT. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON WASTEWATER. YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO SEE ON STORM DRAINAGE. I'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THESE NUMBERS. ACTUALLY, I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING THAT I THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION ON THE GENERAL FUND, ON THE 
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GENERAL FUND, WHEN YOU SEE THE APPROVED BEGINNING FUND BALANCE, YOU SEE THAT IT'S $19.2 MILLION. 
          AND THEN THE YEAR TO DATE WITH ENCUMBRANCES, THE 14.977. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT I WANT TO SAY IT FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, THAT DIFFERENCE OF $4.3 MILLION IS A RESULT OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR CLOSING THE AUDIT AND THE ACT FOR BEING COMPLETED AND REALIZING THAT REVENUES TRENDED DOWN LOWER THAN THE BUDGET. AND THAT CREATED THAT VARIANCE. SO WHERE IT WAS BUDGETED AT 19.2, IN FACT, THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE FOR 26 BECAME 14.9 OR NEARLY 15 MILLION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT BEGINS AT A DEFICIT. IT FLOWS THROUGH. IT CAN CONTINUE THAT. YES, MA'AM. FOR THE RECORD, WAS PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP MADE AWARE THAT WE WERE TRENDING DOWNWARD IN REVENUES AT MIDPOINT LAST FISCAL YEAR? MY ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU ALL. WE HAVE BEEN BRINGING FORWARD CONSISTENTLY IS WHAT I WOULD SAY. AND OPENGOV, OF COURSE, HAS GIVEN US THE ABILITY TO BUILD THESE TOOLS THAT MAKE THINGS SO ACCESSIBLE AT YOUR FINGERTIPS AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY. OPENGOV DOESN'T JUST HAVE THE FOUR MAJOR FUNDS, IT ALSO HAS AT THE BOTTOM. I HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT HAS ALL OF THE FUNDS. AS THE FUND BALANCE KIND OF FLOWS THROUGH, IT'S UP TO DATE TO THE TO THE, NOT OUR I WOULDN'T SAY AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY AT 4 A.M. EVERY DAY. SO MY, MY ANSWER WOULD BE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. WE, WE HAVE PRESENTED BEFORE, OF COURSE, BUT PERVEZ IS. 
          SUGGESTION TO DO THIS EVERY MONTH, I THINK IS FANTASTIC. AND I THINK THIS IS A TURN TOWARDS THE THINGS THAT I THAT WE'VE ALL SAID FROM FINANCIAL SERVICES, WHICH IS WE WANT TO BE ASKED THESE QUESTIONS TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE RECORD FOR COUNCIL, FOR MAYOR. I WANT TO GIVE PERVEZ OR ANDY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FURTHER TO THAT, IF THEY'D LIKE TO. BUT MY FEELING IS THIS IS INFORMATION THAT WE VERY EFFICIENTLY COLLECT AND SHARE VERY TRANSPARENTLY. WE ALSO HAVE THE FSR IS ON THE WEBSITE EVERY QUARTER AS WELL. SO IF YOU WANTED TO SEE IT QUARTERLY, IT'S OF COURSE THERE AS WELL. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE SAYING, WELL, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT SHOULD HAVE COME AND TOLD COUNCIL, THE WAY OUR CHARTER WORKS, IT SETS UP THAT YOU GUYS OPERATE UNDERNEATH THE CITY MANAGER. AND SO YOU PRESENT THE REPORTS TO US THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. SO THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION THAT YOU GUYS WERE GIVING HIM THAT INFORMATION. HE HAD THAT INFORMATION AND IT WAS NOT EXPRESSLY GIVEN TO COUNCIL IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I WAS NOT ON THERE AT THE TIME, BUT I KNOW WE WERE NOT EXPRESSLY TOLD ANYTHING ON THIS COUNCIL UNTIL APRIL. SO THAT IS THE REASON I WANTED THAT PUT ONTO THE RECORD JUST BECAUSE THERE THERE IS SOME CONFUSION IN THE PUBLIC, AND I WANT TO CLEAR UP THAT CONFUSION. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER. UNDERSTOOD, COUNCILMAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO WE GO BACK TO WATER. OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD. GOOD. OKAY. THIS IS MUCH MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD WATER UTILITY. YOU'LL SEE THAT THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE AND THE YEAR TO DATE FUND BALANCE ARE THE SAME. WE WATER SALES ARE SEASONAL, RIGHT? SO AS IT GETS HOTTER, WHICH IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S BEEN RAINING A LOT, RIGHT? SO RAINFALL IS, IS A PART OF THAT. BUT AS TEMPERATURES INCREASE, IRRIGATION CAN TEND TO INCREASE. IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT DROUGHT CONTINGENCY STAGE YOU ARE IN THAT CAN DRIVE IT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF SEASONALITY TO WATER CONSUMPTION AND WATER REVENUE BASED ON THAT WATER CONSUMPTION. WHAT WE SEE IS AN APPROVED BUDGET OF $26.8 MILLION. WE'RE ABOUT $20 MILLION YEAR TO DATE, TRENDING NICELY AND GOING INTO THE HOTTEST PART OF THE YEAR. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS FUND LOOKS VERY HEALTHY THROUGH MAY 31ST IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING. THAT'S THE LARGEST WATER SALES. OF COURSE, WE HAVE MISCELLANEOUS WATER CHARGES. AGAIN, SAME THING. THE BUDGET IS 855 000. 
          IT'S ALREADY AT 807. WE'RE TRENDING VERY NICELY WITH THAT. AND SO TRANSFERS IN WE DON'T HAVE TRANSFERS IN. YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NO BUDGET. THERE'S NO YEAR TO DATE FOR THAT. I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT EXPENDITURES FOR WATER. SO CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE YOU MAY REMEMBER I'VE DONE BUDGET AMENDMENTS WITH YOU ALL WITH THE COUNCIL. IF THERE'S A LITIGATION OR THERE'S, YOU KNOW, LEGALITY HAPPENING IN TERMS OF WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S GOING TO HIT THERE. AND THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THOSE OVERAGES AND THOSE EXPENDITURES. SO YES, IT SEEMS TO JUMP OFF THE PAGE TO YOU. THAT IS WHY INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, IT'S THE SAME THING AGAIN. MARCO AND HIS TEAM SUPPORT NOT JUST THE GENERAL FUND. THEY SUPPORT THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AS WELL. YOU MIGHT IMAGINE THAT THE SOFTWARE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER IS QUITE PRICEY. BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING THIS MASSIVE COST CONTAINMENT EXERCISE TO TO FIND 
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SAVINGS, RIGHT, THAT ARE EMBEDDED NOT JUST IN 26, BUT IN ANY REDUNDANCY OF NOT NEEDING TO RENEW THOSE LICENSES AND THOSE SOFTWARES FOR 27. SO I WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW IT TO YOU EACH MONTH WHEN I COME BEFORE YOU. BUT THE COST CONTAINMENT EXERCISES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THAT WE WILL BRING FORWARD TO YOU IN JULY, I THINK, WILL HELP YOU SEE HOW IMPACTFUL THAT CAN BE. AND THEN AND THEN FINALLY TRANSFERS OUT. WE CAN SEE WHERE THAT IS. IT'S AT 50%. 
          IT'S THE SAME IDEA WITH THE GENERAL FUND. WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER TRANSFER OUT AT THE END OF JUNE. THAT'S AT THE 75% KIND OF MARK. WE'LL ALSO SEE 100% COME THROUGH FOR THE YEAR AS WELL. SO IF YOU TRAIL DOWN, YOU'LL SEE WHAT IS A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE ESTIMATED THROUGH MAY 31ST OF $23.8 MILLION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. WATER, WASTEWATER HEALTHY. NOW, WHAT WILL COME INTO PLAY IN FUTURE YEARS. AND WE'LL TALK AGAIN ABOUT THIS IN JULY WHEN WE BRING FORTH, YOU KNOW, SOME UPDATED ESTIMATES BASED ON COST CONTAINMENT AND WHAT 27 IN THE FUTURE YEARS LOOK LIKE IS DEBT SERVICE, RIGHT? SO THAT THAT'S A TOPIC THAT WILL COME UP. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THAT IMPACTS THESE FUNDS. OKAY. WASTEWATER UTILITY FUND, SAME THING. BEGINNING FUND BALANCE MATCHES THE YEAR TO DATE IT WITH ENCUMBRANCE FUND BALANCE. 
          YOU CAN SEE WASTEWATER SERVICE CHARGES, WASTEWATER SERVICE CHARGES, LESS SEASONALITY WITH THIS. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. SO WHAT WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS VERY AGAIN, HEALTHY $15 MILLION BUDGETED FOR WASTEWATER SERVICE CHARGES 11.2 REALIZED 74.64%. WE'RE ABOUT AGAIN THROUGH MAY 31ST, ABOUT 66.67% THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, APPROACHING 70%. THAT LOOKS VERY FAVORABLE. SAME THING. MISCELLANEOUS WASTEWATER CHARGES, OBVIOUSLY VERY FAVORABLE. THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRENDING OVER BUDGET. THAT IS GREAT NEWS. AND THEN TRANSFERS IN. WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRANSFERS IN FOR WASTEWATER UTILITY. OR YOU'D SEE IT IN THE BUDGET IN THE YEAR TO DATE ENCUMBRANCE. 
          ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, IT'S VERY MUCH THE SAME CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. IF THERE'S LITIGATION FOR RATES, FOR EXAMPLE, IT IMPACTS WATER AND WASTEWATER. THOSE EXPENSES BECOME SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE TWO FUNDS. AND SAME AGAIN FOR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. THAT SOFTWARE IS QUITE EXPENSIVE. IT'S JUST AS EXPENSIVE. THOSE EXPENSES TEND TO GET SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE TWO FUNDS. AND THAT'S THE DRIVER THERE. AGAIN, A HEALTHY FUND BALANCE AT 24.2 ALMOST MILLION DOLLARS. BUT AGAIN, DEBT SERVICE IS GOING TO BECOME PART OF THE CONVERSATION MOST IMPORTANTLY AS WE GO FORWARD. AND SO AGAIN, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN JULY AND HAVE A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT DEBT AT THAT TIME. YEAH, BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO STRESS THE FACT THAT THE WASTEWATER UTILITY FUND CAN ONLY BE USED FOR WATER FOR WASTEWATER, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NO DIPPING INTO THIS. LIKE THIS IS A HEALTHY FUND, BUT THIS IS ONLY HEALTHY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THEIR WASTEWATER AND FOR THEIR WATER. AND I MEAN, THOSE ARE ESSENTIALS IN OUR LIVES. AND SO ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE A HEALTHY FUND, AS YOU SAID, AS WELL, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO START RACKING UP SOME DEBT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR GROWTH. AND THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO NOT BE SO HEALTHY. THAT'S CORRECT. AND AND AGAIN, WE'LL BRING WE'LL BRING YOU THOSE THOSE SCRUBBED NUMBERS THAT COST CONTAINMENT STRATEGY THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY, AGAIN, IMPACTS GENERAL FUND WATER, WASTEWATER, STORM DRAINAGE AS WELL. SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE NUMBERS BE REFINED. IT'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT 27 WILL LOOK LIKE. AND THEN THE, THE OUTER YEARS AS WELL. WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU IN JULY. AND THEN VERY QUICKLY, I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE. I WANT TO MOVE THROUGH STORM DRAINAGE AGAIN, SMALLER FUND, BUT JUST AS IMPACTFUL, JUST AS IMPORTANT, STORM DRAINAGE IS FEE BASED. 
          YOU DON'T SEE MUCH SEASONALITY WITH THIS. IT'S NOT DRIVEN IN THE WAY THAT WATER IS OR PROPERTY TAXES, ETC. ARE, BUT STILL QUITE FAVORABLE. YOU CAN SEE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TRENDING FAVORABLY. TOTAL REVENUE AND TRANSFERS IN. WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRANSFERS IN RIGHT NOW, BUT APPROVE BUDGET IS 2.1. WE'RE ALREADY AT 1.5. THAT'S ABOUT 68%. SO TRENDING FAVORABLY IN TERMS OF REVENUE EXPENDITURES. SAME THING. THERE'S NO EXPENDITURES FOR CITY ATTORNEY IN THIS CASE. YOU DO SEE THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. SAME THING. IT'S THE SAME THING. THEY SUPPORT SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE FOR EVERY FUND. AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO MENTION ABOUT STORM DRAINAGE IS YOU CAN SEE THE FUND BALANCE DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM, THE MILLION DOLLARS. OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE NEED 25% OF ALL OF OUR EXPENDITURES AND TRANSFERS OUT FOR OUR RESERVE POLICY. WE DON'T HAVE DEBT SERVICE RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY ASSOCIATED WITH STORM DRAINAGE, BUT WE AGAIN, WILL BE BRINGING REVISED NUMBERS FORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE SCRUBBING EVERY DIVISION, EVERY FUND, EVERY LINE, AND WE 
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WILL BE BRINGING MORE DETAILS BACK FORWARD TO YOU IN JULY. AND THEN EACH MONTH I WILL COME FORWARD AND WE'LL WATCH THESE NUMBERS MOVE ABOUT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHY THEY'RE TRENDING THE WAY THAT THEY ARE. QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER ZAVALA, CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT PROJECT CLEAN AND HOW EXACTLY THAT WORKED? BECAUSE WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES OPEN PORTAL, OPEN DATA PORTAL, I CAME ACROSS IT AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT? WHY WASN'T THIS LIKE, PRESENTED TO US AS LIKE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT? AND FOR THOSE THAT, THAT AREN'T AWARE, IT WAS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM CONTAINS SEVERAL YEARS OF ACCUMULATED OPEN PURCHASE ORDERS THAT WERE NO LONGER ACTIVE. AND SO MANY OF THOSE REPRESENTED COMPLETED WORK, EXPIRED CONTRACTS OR PROJECTS THAT HAD CLOSED WITHOUT FULL USE OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS. AND SO THIS CREATED MULTIPLE INEFFICIENCIES, INCLUDING ENCUMBERED BALANCES, OVERSTATED ACTUAL OBLIGATIONS. DEPARTMENTS LACKED CLARITY ON AVAILABLE APPROPRIATIONS. THERE WAS LIMITED VISIBILITY INTO POTENTIAL YEAR END CAPACITY, AND THEN BUDGET DECISIONS RISKED BEING MADE ON INACCURATE FINANCIAL ASSUMPTIONS. AND SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING. AND SO WE TOOK LIKE, WHAT, NEARLY A LITTLE OVER $5 MILLION OFF. AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, WHAT ARE THERE GOING TO BE OTHER ITERATIONS OF THAT? ARE WE GOING TO BE SCRUBBING THAT FROM NOW ON? I'M GOING TO TURN THAT QUESTION OVER TO THE EXECUTIVE TEAM. PROJECT CLEAN IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I CAN SPEAK ON, NOR WILL I EVER PRETEND TO KNOW SOMETHING I DO NOT KNOW IN DETAIL. I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT ANYTHING I SPEAK ON, IT'S BECAUSE I FULLY, TRANSPARENTLY KNOW IT. I BELIEVE IT WAS UNDER MR. CROWLEY, AND THAT'S NOT TRUE. SO LET ME LET ME GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THAT'S A YEAR END ANNUAL PROCESS. THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT DOES DURING THE MONTHS OF JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER. AT THAT POINT, THE COUNCIL BUDGET IS PREPARED. THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET IS PREPARED. INCLUDED IN THAT BUDGET IS ALSO PURCHASE ORDER ROLLOVERS THAT NEED TO BE ROLLED OVER TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THOSE THAT ARE NO LONGER NEEDED ARE CLEANED OUT, FLUSHED OUT, CLOSED OUT, AND THAT MONEY IS REVERTED BACK TO THE FUND BALANCE. DEPENDING ON THE THE INDIVIDUAL FUNDS. SO THAT IS AN ONGOING PRACTICE. IT'S NOTHING NEW OR INVENTED. FOR THE FIRST TIME. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE EVERY YEAR. WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. OKAY. BECAUSE ON THE ONE PAGER IT SAYS IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST ITERATION, AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS LIKE 5 MILLION. THAT WAS YEAH, I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE DONE EVERY YEAR ANYWAYS, JUST TO REDO THE BALANCE. I MEAN, THERE WERE TIMES THAT WE HAD LIKE ALLOCATED MONEY TO A PARK AND THAT DIDN'T GO. SO THEY TAKE, YOU'RE CLEANING IT UP, YOU'RE SO YOU CAN START YOUR NEW FISCAL BUDGET. AND SO YEAH, THAT'S DONE EVERY YEAR. IT ALSO RELEASES APPROPRIATIONS THAT ARE TIED UP IN POS THAT ARE JUST SITTING IDLE. WELL, THEN THE ONE PAGER THAT'S ON OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES OPEN DATA PORTAL IS INCORRECT THEN, BECAUSE IT'S CLAIMING THAT IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST ITERATION AND THAT IT HAD BEEN YEARS SINCE THIS HAD BEEN DONE. AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE WAS LIKE 5 MILLION OR SO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAN UP. THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING COUNCIL MEMBER, IT DEPENDS ON WHO WROTE THAT ARTICLE. I DON'T THINK IT'S NOT AN ARTICLE. IT'S LIKE A YEAH, WHOEVER DRAFTED THAT PART OF THE PAGE. YEAH. WE REALLY WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM BECAUSE HISTORICALLY BY PROCESS, WE CLEAN UP EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO KNOW WHAT OUR NEW BEGINNING BALANCE WOULD BE THE NEXT YEAR. AND SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I ALSO UNDERSTAND IT PROBABLY DOES SAY THAT ON THAT WEBSITE, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN KIND OF CONFLICT OF INFORMATION. AND I GUESS THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE GET WHEN WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT. YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRY TO MAKE THINGS MORE THAN THEY ARE IS YEAH, OF COURSE WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR. YEAH. WE SHOULD HAVE A CLEANUP PROJECT CLEAN EVERY YEAR. BECAUSE HOW DO YOU BEGIN A NEW BALANCE, A NEW BUDGET WITHOUT IT? AND MY APOLOGIES, I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE NAME OF THE. THAT WASN'T SOMETHING I RECOGNIZED. OKAY. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S THE ONE PAGER THAT OR THE TWO PAGER THAT IT'S TYPED UP ON IT. WHO DOES THAT? IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S NOT A PAGE. IT'S ON THE. SOMEONE HAD TO UPLOAD IT INTO THE OPEN DATA PORTAL. AND SO IT'S THERE AND IT'S UPLOADED. AND WE TALK ABOUT IT AS IF IT WAS THIS NEW THING. AND I JUST REMEMBER I HAD SHOWED UP AT PSC FOR A MEETING, AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE THAT THERE WAS LIKE AN ENTIRE CLEAN, LIKE IN A PLAY LIKE PLAY ON, LIKE LEAN SIX SIGMA, LIKE CITY OF KYLE THING. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. CLEAN WITH THE K. AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER. I THINK THE, I THINK THE TWO THINGS ARE MAYBE GETTING CONFLATED. THIS PERVEZ IS 
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EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT THE CLEANUP AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN EVERY CITY AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR. CLEANING UP POS, FINDING MONEY, RETURNING THAT MONEY BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND OR WHATEVER, OR WHATEVER FUND. SO THAT'S ONE PROCESS THAT THAT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AND THEN THE, THE KYLE LEAN INITIATIVE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IT WAS LOOKING AT PROCESSES INTERNALLY ACROSS THE CITY THAT CROSS INTERDEPARTMENTAL PROJECTS AND, AND LOOKING AT THE PROCESSES FROM START TO FINISH AND GETTING TEAMS TOGETHER TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE MAKE THEM MORE EFFICIENT. BUT I DON'T THINK THE TWO CROSS. SO WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. WHATEVER. YEAH. I THINK JUST WHAT WHOEVER'S TYPING THIS UP. 
          YEAH. WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHATEVER'S YEAH, WHATEVER'S ON THE SITE AND EVALUATE HOW THOSE TWO CAME TOGETHER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, Y'ALL, YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU AGAIN, I THE FINANCIAL TARGET ANALYSIS IS YOUR FRIEND. IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE IT ANYTIME THAT YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. YOU WANT TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN CALL CENTER AND OTHER DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE IT FULLY EXPANDED. WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY FOR ALL FOUR MAJOR FUNDS. I EVEN HAVE FUN LITTLE GAUGES THERE THAT SHOW YOU KIND OF WHERE WE ARE YEAR TO DATE. AND AS OF RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S JUST A WEALTH OF INFORMATION AT YOUR FINGERTIPS. SO PLEASE, PLEASE USE IT. AND WE APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A CLASS ON THAT BECAUSE I'M TO BE HONEST, I SAT WITH BRIAN LANGLEY AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I LIKE I'M PAPER BASED PERSON. I WANT TO SEE A PDF OF WHAT OUR BUDGET IS. BETTER YET, GIVE ME A COPY OF IT. AND HE WAS LIKE, OH, IT'S EASY. LET ME SHOW YOU. WE GET ON THERE, WE'RE LIKE, I'M LOST. HE'S LOST. I'M LIKE, I CAN HELP YOU. I NEED A REAL LIKE TUTORIAL ON THIS, I BUILT IT, I CAN HELP YOU. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT. PLEASURE. I'LL BE BACK NEXT MONTH TO BRIEF YOU GUYS ON 
          [13) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on a proposed Code of Conduct for members serving on City boards, commissions, and advisory bodies that establishes standards for professional conduct, public communication, and engagement with residents, colleagues, staff and Council, including enforcement mechanisms and a process for removal.]
CURRENT TRENDS AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM 13 NOW BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS IS NOT HERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OKAY. MAYBE. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO TABLE THIS UNTIL HE GETS BACK TO GET HIS FEEDBACK. DO YOU WANT TO JUST DO THE PRESENTATION AND THEN SORRY, THE PRESENTATION IS A LITTLE LENGTHY. AND I DO KNOW THAT MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS DID WANT TO BE A PART OF IT. I'M CERTAINLY CAN GET UP AND GIVE THE PRESENTATION IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE. BUT IF IF THE COUNCIL DID WANT TO TABLE IT, WE COULD COME BACK WHEN THE FULL COUNCIL IS HERE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING BACK AGENDA ITEM 13 ON THE NEXT AGENDA. SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER. SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? OKAY. PASSES SIX ZERO. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, MY FAVORITE RECEIVER 
          [14) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on Google Fiber implementation.]
REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON GOOGLE FIBER IMPLEMENTATION ITEM PRESENTER MIKE TRIMBLE. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL MIKE TRIMBLE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS. SO GOOGLE FIBER IS IN FULL SWING FOR IMPLEMENTATION. AND SO WE HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVE, JOHN MICHAEL CORTEZ WITH GOOGLE FIBER TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES AND HOW THAT'S GOING. THANK YOU MIKE. MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF, JOHN MICHAEL CORTEZ WITH G FIBER. JUST PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR PROGRAM WON'T BURY THE LEAD. IT'S GOING VERY, VERY WELL. AND WE REALLY THANK THE GREAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY STAFF AND HELPING US GET TO THIS POINT AND HELPING US WITH OUR PROGRAM EVERY DAY. WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION, CONSTANT COORDINATION, AND IT'S REALLY SHOWING. AND WE'VE HAD A YOU KNOW, IT'S WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY ACROSS AN ENTIRE CITY, YOU KNOW, IT CAN GET A LITTLE MESSY. IT'S NEVER PERFECT, BUT IT'S GOING VERY, VERY WELL IN OUR ESTIMATION. SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AND I GUESS IS THIS A, OH. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER HOW WE GOT HERE. I THINK IT WAS JUNE 2023 WHEN I WAS FIRST BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPANSION OF FIBER INTO THE COMMUNITY TO, TO SERVE RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AT THE TIME. IT WAS REALLY JUST THE START OF THE CONVERSATION. I WAS BACK BEFORE THIS BODY IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024 WITH AN UPDATE, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHERE WE WERE WITH OUR OUR PROCESS AND THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY STAFF. AND THEN FINALLY, IN JUNE 2025, WE WERE BEFORE THIS BODY AGAIN FOR THE APPROVAL OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY LICENSE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS REALLY THE FORMAL APPROVAL FOR US TO BE IN THE CITY, UTILIZING THE RIGHT OF WAY TO BUILD OUR FIBER TO THE PREMISE NETWORK AND SERVE CUSTOMERS HERE. AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY 
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THE COUNCIL IN JUNE, AND WE WERE OFF TO A RUNNING START, HAD OUR OFFICIAL GROUNDBREAKING AND START OF CONSTRUCTION IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. AND AS OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, SO LESS THAN LESS THAN A YEAR, I THINK LIKE IN TEN MONTHS OR ACTUALLY THIS NUMBER IS A LITTLE LOW. WE'RE ACTUALLY, I THINK 57% DONE BY OUR MEASURE. AND THE WAY THAT WE KIND OF MEASURE OUR PROGRESS IS WE ESTIMATE HOW MANY LINEAR FEET OF FIBER WE NEED TO PUT INTO THE GROUND TO SERVE THE ENTIRE CITY. AND WE'RE MORE THAN HALFWAY DONE. AGAIN, THANKS TO THE GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE REAL EXCITED. IN THE COMING WEEKS, WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST HAPPY CUSTOMERS IN SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE COMPLETED. SO WE BUILD OUR NETWORK IN SEGMENTS. SO KIND OF LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS OR PORTIONS OF LARGER NEIGHBORHOODS. AND AS THOSE ARE COMPLETED AND TIED INTO THE BIGGER NETWORK, WE WILL FLIP THE SWITCH AND TURN THEM ON AND FOLKS CAN SIGN UP FOR SERVICE. 
          AND WE'RE VERY, VERY NEAR TO FLIPPING THE SWITCH ON THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE. AND WE'RE REAL EXCITED AND LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATING THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY IN THE COMING WEEKS. MORE TO COME ON THAT ONCE WE HAVE A GOOD DATE. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR DEPLOYMENT. IF YOU'VE BEEN IN AND AROUND THE KYLE, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN US ON THE STREETS, BUT WE USE PRIMARILY A METHOD OF DEPLOYMENT CALLED MICRO TRENCH WHERE WE ARE RIGHT THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURE AT THE EDGE OF CURB WHERE IT MEETS THE ASPHALT. IT'S A VERY QUICK, PRETTY CLEAN OPERATION WE RUN, WHICH BASICALLY A SAW IN THAT JOINT. WE HAVE A NARROW, SHALLOW TRENCH RIGHT BEHIND THAT MOVING OPERATION. WE HAVE A TEAM THAT THAT INSTALLS CONDUIT IN THAT TRENCH. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER TEAM THAT THAT FOLLOWS WITH THE CONCRETE TRUCK WITH A SPECIALLY FORMULATED FLOWABLE FILL CONCRETE THAT THAT BACKFILLS THAT TRENCH THE SAME DAY. WE DON'T LEAVE OUR TRENCHES OPEN OVERNIGHT. AND IT'S SPECIALLY DESIGNED MATERIAL TO SET QUICKLY ENOUGH FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE ON IT THAT DAY. PLUS, IT'S A VERY NARROW TRENCH, SO NOBODY'S GOING TO FALL INTO IT. BUT WE DO WE DO RESTORE IT THAT THAT EVENING. SO THE BENEFITS I WON'T BELABOR THIS, BUT IT'S IT'S AND I WANTED TO PUT THIS IN HERE JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT WAS APPARENT BACK WHEN I WAS FIRST BEFORE THIS BODY IN 2023, THERE WAS A LOT OF, LET'S SAY, BAD FEELINGS ABOUT PREVIOUS FIBER DEPLOYMENTS IN THE CITY. THERE WERE LOTS OF CHALLENGES WITH WITH OTHER DEPLOYMENTS, NOT OURS, BUT, BUT OTHERS. AND SO I THINK THAT EVERYBODY WAS A LITTLE BIT LEERY OF ANOTHER FIBER PROVIDER COMING. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD WITH DAMAGE TO RESIDENTS PROPERTY, A FAILURE TO RESTORE IN A TIMELY MANNER, ETC. ETC. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE UTILIZE THIS METHOD IS BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUND, AND WE DO THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS, WHERE WE KIND OF PIONEERED THE USE OF THIS METHOD AT SCALE, WE HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS MUCH LESS IMPACT BOTH ON THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND ON RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE. AGAIN, IT MOVES PRETTY, PRETTY QUICKLY AND HAS MINIMAL INTRUSION INTO PEOPLE'S YARDS, ETC. AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET IT RESTORED VERY, VERY QUICKLY AND BE OUT OF PEOPLE'S HAIR. GENERALLY WITH CIVIL CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A MATTER OF A FEW WEEKS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT ALSO HELPS US AVOID EXISTING UTILITIES BECAUSE WE'RE SHALLOWER, WE HAVE FEWER CONFLICTS WITH OTHER UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS ALSO A BIG ISSUE IF WE'RE USING MORE TRADITIONAL DEPLOYMENT METHODS LIKE DIRECTIONAL DRILLING. AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT THIS IS THE THE METHOD THAT WE USE, BUT IT DOES CREATE A FEW UNIQUE CHALLENGES AS COMPARED TO BEING, LET'S SAY, BEHIND THE CURB OR BEHIND HOMES, BECAUSE WE'RE IN FRONT OF THE HOMES, IS THAT WE ARE WORKING IN THAT AREA THAT'S IN FRONT OF RESIDENTS AND, AND FOLKS OFTEN PARK THERE. AND SO WE'VE HAD AND WE ALWAYS DO IN EVERY COMMUNITY, JUST A HANDFUL OF CHALLENGES WITH THAT. BUT WE DO A LOT OF PRE-CONSTRUCTION, JUST OUR STANDARD PRE-CONSTRUCTIO& COMMUNICATIONS. WE PLACE DOOR HANGERS ON EVERY HOME, AND WE ALSO DEPLOY NO PARKING SIGNS, AT LEAST 48 HOURS IN THE BEFORE WE START WORK ON A PARTICULAR STREET. AND THE REASON WE DO THAT, OF COURSE, IS SO THAT FOLKS KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE WORKING IN THAT PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO PLEASE MOVE YOUR VEHICLE IF YOU HAVE VEHICLES THERE. WE HAVE COMMITTED TO SOME ENHANCED COMMUNICATIONS OVER ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO HERE IN KYLE. WE DO PRE-CONSTRUCTION OUTREACH TO HOAS WHEN POSSIBLE. NOT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AN HOA OR A FORMAL BODY, BUT WHEN THEY DO, WE'VE WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY TO GET THAT LIST, AND WE DO THAT OUTREACH PRIOR TO TO COMMENCING WORK. AND UPON REQUEST, WE'LL DO IN-PERSON OR VIRTUAL MEETINGS TO TALK A 
          [03:40:06]
LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WHAT FOLKS CAN EXPECT. I THINK I DID ONE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WITH PLUM CREEK IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AND THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR US TO GET STARTED THERE. BUT I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON THE VEHICLES THAT REMAIN IN THE WORK AREA. SO ABOUT 48 HOURS BEFORE WE'RE STARTING WORK, CERTAINLY WE'VE HAD DOOR TAGS PLACED ON THE HOMES, BY THE WAY, WE TAKE PICTURES OF THOSE AND GEOTAG THEM WHEN THEY'RE PLACED SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY SEES THOSE OR THE WIND BLOWS THEM AWAY. AND WE JUST IT'S ALSO TO HOLD OUR VENDORS ACCOUNTABLE THAT THEY ACTUALLY DID THAT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FULL ACCOUNTABILITY, THAT PEOPLE WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE NOTIFIED IN ADVANCE. BUT BACK TO THE VEHICLES AND THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE PLACED THOSE SIGNAGE AND, YOU KNOW, 95 PLUS PERCENT OF THE TIME, IF THERE'S CARS THERE, PEOPLE DO MOVE THEM, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY SEE THOSE SIGNS. BUT OCCASIONALLY WE WILL SHOW UP ON THE DAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORK IN THAT AREA. AND WE DO FIND A VEHICLE PARKED. AND SO WHAT WE OF COURSE TRY TO DO IMMEDIATELY IS KNOCK ON SOME DOORS AND TRY TO IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE AND ASK THEM TO MOVE THE VEHICLE OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHERE OUR WORK ZONE WILL BE. 
          AND THAT USUALLY ADDRESSES THE ISSUE. BUT SOMETIMES SOMEBODY'S NOT HOME. SOMETIMES WE CAN'T IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. AND SO OUR STANDARD PRACTICE, WHICH IS PRETTY STANDARD IN ALL THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK, NOT JUST FOR G FIBER, BUT OTHER USERS OF THE RIGHT OF WAY WHO NEED TO DO WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE AND GET HIM TO MOVE IT, WE WILL PERFORM PERFORM WHAT'S CALLED A COURTESY TOW, WHICH IS WE WILL HAVE A TOW TRUCK COME AND MOVE THE VEHICLE. NOW, IT'S NOT THE KIND OF TOWING WHERE WE TAKE IT TO SOME LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTY AND HOLD IT HOSTAGE FOR HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS UNTIL SOMEBODY CAN GET IT. IT'S USUALLY JUST MOVING IT AROUND THE CORNER OR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY ONLY WORK ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AT A TIME. SO WE MOVE THE VEHICLE THERE, DO OUR WORK, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WE MOVE THE VEHICLE BACK. AND AGAIN, ALL THIS IS AT OUR EXPENSE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE LIKE TO DO BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TO DISTURB PEOPLE'S PERSONAL PROPERTY, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO ON OCCASION IN ORDER TO HAVE A SAFE WORK ZONE. THAT'S CLEAR, SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETE OUR CONSTRUCTION AND MOVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION IN A PARTICULAR AREA, WE PICK UP ALL OF THAT SIGNAGE AND MOVE IT TO THE NEXT AREA WE'RE GOING TO GOING TO BE WORKING. SO WE HAVE HEARD SOME CONCERN ABOUT SOME TOWING OF THE VEHICLES IN KYLE. AND SO WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO DO IS SOME ADDITIONAL ENHANCED COMMUNICATION. AND THAT IS AS WE'RE GOING AND REPLACING THOSE SIGNS, IF WE SEE VEHICLES PARKED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE'LL ACTUALLY PUT A FLIER ON THAT VEHICLE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION SUPERVISOR'S NUMBER. SO HOPEFULLY THEY SEE THAT. BUT AGAIN, I WILL SAY JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO ALL THE NOTIFICATION, BUT OCCASIONALLY WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE SOMEBODY'S VEHICLES. BUT WE DO TRY TO TAKE CARE AND MOVE IT BACK AT THE END OF THE DAY AGAIN, ALL AT OUR EXPENSE, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A CLEAR AND SAFE WORK ZONE. AND THAT'S THAT'S IT VERY QUICK. 
          WE ARE WORKING AT A REALLY SOLID PACE HERE IN THE CITY. AGAIN, WE'RE HALFWAY DONE WITH THE CIVIL CONSTRUCTION MORE THAN HALFWAY DONE. WE'RE LIGHTING UP OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOODS FOR CUSTOMERS IN THE COMING WEEKS. AND OUR HOPE IS THAT BY EARLY 2028, IF NOT SOONER, AND HOPEFULLY SOONER AND LIKELY SOONER, WE WILL BE PRETTY MUCH COMPLETELY DONE BUILDING OUT AND PROVIDING FIBER PAST EVERY RESIDENT AND SMALL BUSINESS THAT WE CAN HERE IN THE IN THE CITY OF KYLE. NOW, I WILL SAY THERE ARE SOME OCCASIONALLY SOME AREAS WHERE WE MAY BE BLOCKED AT THE CURRENT TIME FROM BUILDING. IF IT'S A CONFLICT WITH, LET'S SAY, A TXDOT PROJECT OR EVEN A CITY PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER UTILITY PROJECT. 
          AND WE'LL, WE'LL DESIGN THAT OUT AND COME BACK TO IT WHEN WE CAN GET CLEAR. I'LL JUST SAY WE ALSO TRY TO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY ON THEIR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM SO THAT WE'RE NOT CUTTING INTO, WELL, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CUT INTO FRESHLY PAVED STREETS, BUT WE TRY TO GET OUT AHEAD OF THOSE SO WE CAN GET IN THE STREET AND THEN GET COVERED OVER BY THE STREET MAINTENANCE. SO WE DO SOME OF THAT COORDINATION AS WELL WITH THE CITY. AND BUT AGAIN, THE PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN GREAT SO FAR. WE HOPE IT CONTINUES. AND, YOU KNOW, HOPE TO HAVE SOME VERY HAPPY CUSTOMERS SOMETIME IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. AND I STAND FOR QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OH, I GOT I GOT SOME. SO I DO HAVE I DO FIRST OF ALL, I'M EXCITED BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO GET DONE. AND WITHOUT A DOUBT, I'M SURE I'LL BE SIGNING UP. I DO HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. THE ORANGE TUBES THAT ARE STICKING OUT OF 
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THE GROUND CURRENTLY. HOW LONG DO THEY STAY THAT WAY FOR? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD IT OUT THERE FOR AT LEAST A WEEK, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE MUCH LONGER IF WHAT WE DO IS IF WE HAVE A VAULT WHERE WE HAVE CONDUIT, THAT'S THAT'S THERE, WE HAVEN'T BLOWN THE FIBER THROUGH AND DONE ALL THE SPLICING YET. WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SAFETY SNOW FENCING AROUND IT SO THAT IT'S NOT A FALL HAZARD FOR PEOPLE TO FALL IN. I'D HAVE TO KNOW THE THE SPECIFIC LOCATION, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE MUCH LONGER. WE WE DID TAKE A BRIEF PAUSE LAST WEEK IN A COUPLE OF AREAS WHILE WE RESOLVED SOME SOME CHALLENGES, BUT WE SHOULD BE BACK TO WORK, HOPEFULLY VERY SOON IN THOSE AREAS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WAS IMPACTED, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE VERY LONG. BUT IF I HAVE THE EXACT LOCATION, MAYOR AND I CAN GET THAT FROM YOU A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN I CAN GIVE YOU AN EXACT TIME FRAME FOR THAT. OKAY, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE LONG. OKAY, OKAY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF LITTLE KIDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAD WAS THE TEMPORARY TOWING SIGNS THAT SAYS, AND IT WAS A PROBABLY LESS THAN 12 HOURS. AND SO GOOGLE HAS THESE SIGNS THAT LOOK LIKE CITY SIGNS. THEY SAY NO PARKING DURING THIS TIME. WE'LL TOW. AND I, I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE OF A SCARE TACTIC UNTIL I SAW SOMEBODY, A TOW COMPANY COME AND TOWING CARS. 
          AND TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S, IT DOESN'T TOW IT TO A DIFFERENT CITY, BUT IT DOES TOW IT. AND WE LIVE IN A CUL DE SAC. THE ALL OF OUR NOT IS, IS A CUL DE SAC. SO THERE'S NO WAY PEOPLE CAN KNOW WHERE THEIR CAR IS BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER IN THAT AREA. AND SO MY CONCERN WAS IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY AND SOMEONE NEEDED THEIR CAR, OR IF SOMEBODY GOT MAD BECAUSE THEY SAW THEIR CAR BEING TOWED, AND THAT BECAME AN AGGRESSIVE TYPE SITUATION. AT WHAT POINT WERE YOU GUYS, IS IT IN YOUR AGREEMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALLOWED TO TOW THESE CARS? LIKE HOW, HOW DID THAT COME TO TO BE? WELL, ONE, TO ANSWER THE FIRST PART, THAT IS WHY WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THE OWNER, KNOCK ON DOORS, TO TRY TO TRY TO FIND THAT PERSON BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO TOW THE CAR. IT COSTS US MONEY. WE KNOW THAT IT CREATES A CHALLENGE IF SOMEBODY GETS UPSET OR IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY OR WHATEVER, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE THAT SITUATION. SO WE DO TAKE AS MUCH. WE DO MAKE AS MUCH OF AN EFFORT AS WE CAN TO IDENTIFY THE OWNER SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE THE VEHICLE. BUT AS FAR AS HOW THAT CAME TO BE, AGAIN, THIS IS A PRETTY STANDARD PRACTICE, I BELIEVE, AND I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THIS IS THE CASE. IT'S IT'S CALLED OUT IN OUR THE GENERAL NOTES IN OUR PERMITS. MAYBE. NO, IT MAY NOT BE THE CASE. IT IS NOT. IT IS IN SOME CITIES, I GUESS IT'S NOT HERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CALLED OUT. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT CALLED OUT IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT. AND IF IT'S NOT IN THE GENERAL NOTES IN OUR PERMIT, I THINK IT'S. AND MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT IT IN THERE. IT'S KIND OF JUST ASSUMED BECAUSE IT IS A STANDARD PRACTICE, NOT JUST BY G FIBER, BUT ANYBODY ELSE, INCLUDING, I WOULD ASSUME, AS THE CITY DOES, STREET MAINTENANCE, IF THEY ENCOUNTER THAT ISSUE, THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A PRACTICE THAT THEY HAVE AS WELL. IT IS IN OTHER CITIES THAT WE WORK IN. SO IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE. IT'S JUST STANDARD PRACTICE. BUT IF WE WE NEED TO ENSHRINE THAT IN IN OUR NOTES, IN OUR GENERAL PERMITS, WE CAN TALK TO YOUR TEAM ABOUT WHETHER WE NEED TO DO THAT. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DID KNOCK ON MY DOOR TO BECAUSE MY CAR WAS JUST A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY AND IT WAS 7:40 A.M. AND MY DOGS BARKED AND I WAS TRYING TO GET READY AND IT WAS VERY CHAOTIC. I'M SO SORRY. AND NO, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. I JUST THIS IS KIND OF A REALITY. I JUST HAPPEN TO LIVE THROUGH IT. RIGHT? BUT I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER SITUATIONS LIKE THAT. AND AS MUCH AS I WANT GOOGLE FIBER FIBER TO COME, I. 
          IT MAKES ME A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE TO KNOW LIKE PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE BEING DISRUPTED IN A WAY THAT MAYBE THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME YOUR WORK PERMIT STARTS. THE MACHINE IS EXTREMELY LIKE I RECORDED THE SOUND AND I WAS IN MY LIVING ROOM, I WAS UPSTAIRS, YOU COULD JUST HEAR IT. IT'S SUCH A, SUCH A, SO I DON'T KNOW AS FAR AS DECIBELS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ALLOWED, BUT IT'S, IT'S A INCONVENIENCING PROCESS. 
          AND SO WHILE WE'RE BRINGING THIS GREAT PRODUCT TO OUR RESIDENTS, I ALSO WANT TO BE VERY CONSCIOUS OF THEM BY WAY OF NOT BOTHERING THEM TOO EARLY OR NOT MOVING THEIR CAR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S A LOT TO ASK FOR FOR INTERNET. WHEN WE HAVE FRONTIER, AT&T SPECTRUM. 
          SO YEAH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER TO KIND OF MITIGATE ALL THAT? AS FAR AS 
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THE, THE NOISE, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CONSTRUCTION, IT'S SAWING THROUGH PAVEMENT. 
          IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO, TO MINIMIZE THE SOUND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE. I NOT THAT IT COMPLETELY ADDRESSES IT, BUT THE ONE OF THE POSITIVES OF THAT METHOD IS KIND OF A TRADE OFF FOR THE NOISE IS THAT IT IS PRETTY QUICK. THOSE THOSE SAW, THOSE SAW CREWS CAN, ON A GOOD DAY, GET TO LIKE 2500FT A DAY. THAT MEANS THEY'RE NOT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME IN FRONT OF ANY PARTICULAR HOUSE OR BLOCK. THEY'RE THEY'RE MOVING PRETTY QUICKLY. AND THEN THE OPERATION BEHIND THEM AGAIN IS JUST LAYING THE CONDUIT AND THEN FILLING THE TRENCH BACK UP. YOU KNOW WHAT WE TRY TO DO, IT'S NOT REALLY MITIGATING FOR THE NOISE. BUT BEHIND THAT SAW TRUCK, THERE'S TYPICALLY A WATERING TRUCK TO MAKE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THERE'S OR THERE'S A VAC TRUCK TO SUCK UP THE DUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THINGS ALL DUSTY AND WHATEVER. SO WE DO TRY TO MITIGATE FOR WHAT WE CAN. I DON'T KNOW IF THE NOISE IS SOMETHING WE CAN REALLY DO ABOUT BECAUSE WE'RE SAWING THROUGH ASPHALT. THE SAVING GRACE IS THAT IT IS A VERY TEMPORARY THING. IT'S NOT UNLIKE A DRILLING RIG THAT'S SITTING IN YOUR YARD, THAT'S OUT THERE TRYING TO DRILL THROUGH ROCK, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR DAYS. IT'S PRETTY QUICK AND USUALLY JUST LIKE A MATTER OF MAYBE SEVERAL MINUTES IN FRONT OF YOUR HOME AS OPPOSED TO SITTING THERE FOR WEEKS. THAT IS KIND OF THE TRADE OFF, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S REALLY ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THE NOISE FOR THAT SMALL PERIOD OF TIME. OKAY, WHAT ABOUT RINGING THE DOORBELL AT 7:40 A.M. WELL, THAT YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE FOLKS ARE ANXIOUS TO GET STARTED, I BELIEVE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT OUR WORKING HOURS ARE HERE. TYPICALLY THEY'RE LIKE EITHER 7 TO 7 OR SUN UP TO SUN DOWN. NOW THEY DON'T START WORKING GENERALLY RIGHT AT THE START OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY GOT TO MOBILIZE AND GET EVERYTHING READY AND SET THINGS UP. BUT YEAH, THEY DO TEND TO START PRETTY EARLY. I WILL GO BACK TO OUR FOLKS, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY ONE, WE PUT THE SIGNS OUT A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STANDARD IS A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE. SO PEOPLE HAVE NOTICE SO THEY CAN MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS TO, TO MOVE VEHICLES. AND I THINK THE, HOPEFULLY THE ENHANCED NOTIFICATION THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING HERE, YOU KNOW, PUTTING, IF WE SEE CARS THAT WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND THEY'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO GET TOWED TO PUT A FLIER ON IT, HOPEFULLY THAT GETS NOTICED. WE HOPE TO MINIMIZE THE NEED TO KNOCK ON THE DOORS BECAUSE AGAIN, OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT FOLKS MOVE THEIR OWN VEHICLES. I WILL SAY WHEN WE DO TOW VEHICLES, SOMETIMES WE'RE TOWING CARS THAT CLEARLY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A YEAR OR TWO, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. EVEN IF THE OWNER WANTED TO MOVE THEM, WE'VE WE'VE HAD TO MOVE CARS THAT WERE ON BLOCKS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, SO BUT WHENEVER POSSIBLE, WE DO TRY TO IDENTIFY THE OWNERS SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE THEIR OWN VEHICLE. BUT WE'LL TAKE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR HOW WE CAN MINIMIZE HAVING TO KNOCK ON PEOPLE'S DOORS. WE'LL HEAR THEM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT. 
          OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER GOSA, I JUST WANT TO SAY MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS RIGHT NEXT TO MAYOR'S, AND WE JUST HAD OUR STREETS REPAVED. SO NOW WE'VE COME IN AND GOOGLE FIBER HAS DONE ALL OF THE MAPPING OF THE UTILITY LINES. AND SO NOW HAVE SPRAY PAINT ALL OVER MY FRESHLY PAVED STREETS, WHICH IS A LITTLE FRUSTRATING. BUT ALSO WHEN YOU COME IN A COUPLE WEEKS, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR WEEKS AHEAD OF WHEN YOU'RE GOING, LIKE THEY TELL YOU NOT TO MOW YOUR GRASS WHERE THEY'VE GOT THE MARKINGS FOR YOUR UTILITIES. SO THAT IS A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY WHERE YOU LIVE IN AN HOA THAT YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP YOUR GRASS MODE. SO LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF MY MARKINGS ARE STILL GOING TO BE THERE WHERE Y'ALL HAD THEM BECAUSE I HAD TO MOW THE GRASS. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF. THE SO THOSE ARE THE UTILITY LOCATES THAT THAT WE CALL FOR AS, AS EVERYBODY SHOULD BEFORE YOU'RE ABOUT TO, TO DIG FOR ANYTHING. AND SO I BELIEVE THAT PAINT IS SUPPOSED TO BE WATER SOLUBLE. SO IT WILL WASH AWAY FAIRLY QUICKLY OVER TIME IF THAT'S AN ISSUE. AND IF IT'S NOT WASHING AWAY, LET US KNOW. WE'LL COME OUT WITH POWER WASHERS. WE'LL GET RID OF IT. WE DO NEED TO LEAVE THEM THERE WHILE WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION JUST FOR SAFETY. AND I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE BECAUSE I'VE IF THEY'RE LINGERING, IT'S OFTEN BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT THERE. SO BEST NOT TO DISTURB THOSE IF POSSIBLE. BUT I KNOW IT'S A FRUSTRATION. I SHOULD SAY THAT WHEN WE'RE DONE, OUR TEAMS ARE SUPPOSED TO PICK UP THOSE LITTLE FLAGS AND LOCATE MARKS SHOULD WASH AWAY IN TIME. BUT IF IF WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING SOONER AFTER WE'RE DONE, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST LET US KNOW. YEAH, I KNOW WHEN WE HAD AT&T COME IN THE THE UTILITY LINE LOCATORS LIKE THAT PAINT DID NOT COME OFF. THAT'S THAT'S THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE CASE. IT SHOULD BE USING WATER SOLUBLE PAINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER SPADA. AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY IN YOUR DEFENSE, I'M VERY MUCH LIKE A YIMBY. I'M A VERY MUCH LIKE YES IN MY BACKYARD. PLEASE, LIKE I DON'T MIND, LIKE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE A KNOCK ON A DOOR, A LITTLE MINOR INCONVENIENCE IF IT MEANS LIKE 
          [03:55:02]
I GET TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE OTHER AMENITIES AND UTILITIES. AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I ALSO HAVE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE TOLD ME LIKE, OH, I'M SO EXCITED. LIKE, YOU KNOW, I SAW LIKE THEY STOPPED BY, THEY DROVE BY AND I SAW THEM DOING ALL THE WORK AND LIKE, I'M JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT IT. AND SO I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME INSTANCES WHERE SOME INDIVIDUALS AREN'T NECESSARILY HAPPY WITH ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE VERY EXCITED. AND SO I ALSO JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT. 
          AND THEN I ALSO DO HAVE A SLIGHT CONCERN ABOUT PUSHING WORKERS TO DO THINGS AS IT GETS HOTTER DURING THE DAY. SO WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT JUST WORKER SAFETY AND HEAT SAFETY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. AND SO LIKE, I DO AGREE AND THINK IT'S A LOT HEALTHIER AND BETTER TO DO IT EARLIER IN THE DAY. SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE WORKERS OUT ON THE STREETS IN THE MIDDLE OF LIKE THE, THE MOST HORRIBLE HEAT THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE. AND THERE'S NO FEDERAL HEAT SAFETY LAWS. BUT I KNOW THAT THE OSHA WAS HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT ON ONE LAST YEAR AT SOME POINT. AND SO I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND THAT. YEAH, THAT THESE ARE JUST REAL PEOPLE OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, DOING WORK AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS AS LEAST OF AN INCONVENIENCE TO PEOPLE. AND THAT IS LEAST HASSLE TO FOLKS. 
          AND YEAH, I JUST, I, I JUST HESITATE ON YOU COMING UP WITH SOME SORT OF SOLUTION TO MAKE PEOPLE DO IT LATER IN THE DAY BECAUSE I JUST, I REALLY, REALLY CARE ABOUT HEAT SAFETY. 
          IT'S A REAL CONCERN HERE IN TEXAS. WE ALSO, IN ADDITION TO AUSTIN, WE'RE IN THE SAN ANTONIO MARKET ALL THROUGH THE SOUTH. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ARIZONA AND VEGAS. SO IT'S A REALLY BIG ISSUE FOR, FOR OUR VENDOR PARTNERS. AND SO THEY OBVIOUSLY ALL NEED TO BE OSHA CERTIFIED AND ALL THAT STUFF. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, HYDRATION WORKER PROTECTIONS ARE ALL VERY IMPORTANT AND A REQUIREMENT FOR OUR. YEAH, YEAH. AND I THINK I ALSO JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THINGS MAYBE HAPPEN SO EARLY AS WELL. AND THEN ALSO TRYING TO CAUSE THE LEAST DISRUPTION TO LIKE A LOT OF THE MOVEMENT THAT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. 
          YEAH. WELL, TO CLARIFY, 8:00 8 A.M. IS 20 MINUTES LATER, NOT LATE IN THE DAY. AND IT'S I THINK THAT'S A MORE ACCURATE TIME WHERE FAMILIES, PEOPLE WITH KIDS, PEOPLE WITH JOBS ARE ALSO ON THEIR WAY AND OUT TO WORK. 740 ANYTIME BEFORE EIGHT TO ME IS AND THAT'S LITERALLY A MATTER OF 20 DIFFERENCE. I WOULD HOPE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO FRY IN BETWEEN THE 20 MINUTES I CAN TAKE BACK TO OUR TEAM. IF WE CAN JUST ESTABLISH A PRACTICE OF IF WE SEE A VEHICLE THAT WE DON'T START KNOCKING TILL 8 A.M. I'LL SEE IF THAT'S FEASIBLE. I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE. YEAH, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE I'M NOT TRYING TO BE UNREALISTIC. I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYBODY WORK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS BALANCE OUR GROWTH. PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED TO BRING THIS PRODUCT INTO KYLE, PLUS THE PEOPLE WHO MAY WALK OUT TO THEIR CARS AND NOT HAVE ONE, I WOULD BE I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE HAD THEIR CAR MOVED THAT WERE LIKE, OH, IT'S OKAY. JUST A LITTLE MINOR INCONVENIENCE, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO BALANCE ALL THAT OUT. I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE GOT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF 60,000 PEOPLE. AND SO I'M TRYING TO DO THAT IN THE BEST WAY THAT I KNOW HOW. AND, AND WELCOME GOOGLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT EVERYBODY'S EXCITED, BUT TRYING TO ALSO BE PROACTIVE TO, TO THE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THIS CARD. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER. HARRIS. AND A LITTLE BIT OF A DEFENSE OF KNOCKING ON DOORS AT 7:00 OR 730 IF YOU DON'T, THEY'VE GOTTEN IN THEIR CARS AND LEFT THE GARAGE AND THEY'RE GONE AND THEIR CARS STILL, ONE OF THE CARS IS STILL PARKED ON THE STREET. SO THERE'S THERE'S A BALANCE ON THAT, I'M SURE. I JUST WANT TO ADD. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL THE POINTS TAKEN TO MICHAEL'S POINT, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT FEEDBACK BACK. OUR OUR INSPECTION TEAMS WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH GOOGLE ALONG THE WAY. OBVIOUSLY KIND OF THE KEEPERS OF THE PERMIT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR TEAMS. WE'LL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK BACK AND WORK WITH THEM ON, ON HOW WE CAN KIND OF MITIGATE SOME OF THESE ISSUES. 
          I DO WANT TO SAY OVERALL, AND AGAIN, YOU GUYS BACK ME UP ON THIS, BUT I THINK OVERALL THE IMPLEMENTATION HAS GONE PRETTY SMOOTHLY. WE HAVE NOT HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS OR SEEN A TON OF ISSUES. I THINK IT HAS GONE PRETTY SMOOTHLY AS I'VE BEEN TALKING TO MY TEAM PERIODICALLY ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING. SO I WOULD JUST SAY OVERALL, IT'S KIND OF BACK THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK GENERALLY IT'S BEEN GOING WELL. IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, THOUGH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC, PLEASE CALL 311. I KNOW GOOGLE, YOU GUYS PUT OUT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL 311. IF THERE'S ANY ISSUE. WE WILL GET THAT THAT FEEDBACK DIRECTLY BACK AND COMMUNICATE WITH THEM DIRECTLY AND RESOLVE ANY ISSUES. AND I DO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR 
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COMING. I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT OF NOTICE, AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME HERE SPEAKS VOLUMES ON GOOGLE AND ON YOUR CHARACTER. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT. 
          IT'S LATE AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT IT'S IT'S TRULY APPRECIATED. IT'S FASCINATING. YOU LEARNED SO MUCH. THERE WAS A MIKE AND I USED TO WORK IN AUSTIN, SO I'VE BEEN I'M USED TO THREE IN THE MORNING. OKAY. THIS IS NOTHING. I HOPE NOT THREE IN THE MORNING. TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU TOO, THAT WE HAD A RESIDENT COMPLAIN ABOUT SOME DEBRIS THAT WAS LEFT NEAR HER FENCE, AND IT TURNED OUT IT WASN'T GOOGLE AT ALL, BUT SHE CAME OUT AND CLEANED IT UP ANYWAY. SO THANKS. I'LL JUST SAY, AND NOT TO BELABOR THAT, WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE EXCITED, BUT IT'S A TRADE OFF. ANY CONSTRUCTION IS DISRUPTIVE ON YOUR STREET. WE KNOW THAT. I WILL SAY WE DO TRY TO MAKE IT AS PAINLESS. AND ACTUALLY OUR GOAL IS TO DELIGHT PEOPLE LIKE WITH WITH HOW WE DO BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE OUR CUSTOMERS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE EXCITED, BUT IT'S KIND OF A PAIN TO SWITCH PROVIDERS. SO WE WANT THEM TO REALLY HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT US. AND, AND IF WE DO A REALLY BAD JOB WITH LEAVING DEBRIS, YOU KNOW, TOWING THEIR CARS EXCESSIVELY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SIGN UP FOR THE SERVICE. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST TO, TO TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT OUR DIRT. OH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOING TO MOVE ON NEXT? 
          [15) (First Reading) Consider approval of an Ordinance amending Section 23-60 of the City of Kyle Code of Ordinances to revise allowable construction hours within 600 feet of occupied residential structures and establish a maximum construction noise level of 85 decibels for construction activities adjacent to occupied residential structures.]
NEXT UP CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION. FIRST READING. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 23-60 OF THE CITY OF KYLE CODE OF ORDINANCES TO REVISE ALL ALLOWABLE CONSTRUCTION HOURS WITHIN 600FT OF OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES AND ESTABLISH A MAXIMUM CONSTRUCTION NOISE LEVEL OF 85DB FOR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES ADJACENT TO OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. I'M CARRIE STILLWELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M KELLY STEWART. I SERVE AS YOUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT THE ABOUT REDUCING THE ALLOWABLE CONSTRUCTION HOURS AND STRENGTHENING THE NOISE LIMITS FOR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE'RE SEEKING AN AMENDMENT TO ARTICLE ARTICLE FIVE, 23 TO 20 3-60 TO MANDATE A MAXIMUM DECIBEL LEVEL AND DECREASE ALLOWABLE EVENING CONSTRUCTION HOURS FROM 9 P.M. TO 7 P.M. SO, BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION, STAFF REVIEWED OPTIONS TO HELP ENSURE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT REFLECTED THE RESPECTED THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS LIVING ADJACENT TO ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION ZONES. AS DIRECTED, STAFF FOCUSED ON POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. TO OKAY TO CURRENT ORDINANCES RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION NOISE, REASONABLE LIMITATIONS ON CONSTRUCTION HOURS, AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE NOISE LEVELS. STAFF ALSO REVIEWED POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION WORKERS DURING PERIODS OF EXTREME HEAT. 
          HOWEVER, TEXAS HOUSE BILL 2127 LIMITS MUNICIPALITIES FROM ADOPTING LOCAL LABOR RELATED REGULATIONS THAT GO BEYOND STATE OR FEDERAL MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. UNFORTUNATELY. 
          CURRENTLY, ARTICLE SECTION 2360 LIMITS CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY WITHIN 600FT OF OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL AREAS, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES TO THE HOURS OF 7 TO 9 P.M. THE NOISE THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE DOES NOT CURRENTLY CONTAIN VERBIAGE SPECIFIC TO CONSTRUCTION NOISE, SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE AMEND CHAPTER 23, SECTION 2360 OF THE CITY CODE CHANGING CONSTRUCTION HOURS FROM 7 A.M. TO 7 P.M. AND IT ALSO INCORPORATES AN 85 DECIBEL LIMIT AT ALL TIMES FOR CONSTRUCTION NOISE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINES. WE HOPE THIS AMENDMENT WILL IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR NEARBY RESIDENTS, WHILE STILL ALLOWING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY TO OCCUR DURING REASONABLE DAYTIME HOURS, SO OPTIONS APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS AS WRITTEN TO REDUCE ALLOWABLE CONSTRUCTION HOURS TO 7 P.M. 
          AND ADD A MAXIMUM NOISE LEVEL OF 85DB TO BE MEASURED AT THE PROPERTY LINE. APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR DENY THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AND LEAVE THE ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN, AND CONTINUE TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY UNTIL 9 P.M. WITHOUT NOISE LIMITATION PARAMETERS. ALL RIGHT. I WAS NOT HERE FOR THIS LAST TIME, BUT I DID GO BACK AND WATCH. 
          ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS JUST STARTING AT 7 A.M. BECAUSE DURING THE WINTER MONTHS OR THE IT'S STILL DARK AT 7 A.M. AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKING NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MAY WORK OVERNIGHT, PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILIES, BABIES, KIDS. SO I, FOR ME, STARTING AT EIGHT IS THE MORE RESIDENTIAL FRIENDLY THING TO DO. I LIKE THE IDEA OF 
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ENDING AT SEVEN. AND I WISH I KNEW HOW MANY, HOW LOUD 85DB WAS. WELL, 85DB WAS SELECTED BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE OSHA HAS DETERMINED THAT THE. THAT'S THE LEVEL WHERE YOU CAN SUSTAIN PERMANENT HEARING DAMAGE FOR AFTER PROLONGED EXPOSURE. SO THAT IS KIND OF THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK FOR DECIBEL LEVEL. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALSO USE IN OUR NOISE ORDINANCE FOR MUSIC AND VENUES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GOZA. I'M INTERESTED TO SEE LIKE HOW LOUD THOSE MICRO TRENCHING MACHINES ARE, BECAUSE I JUST HAD A RESIDENT THAT WAS LIKE, MY WORK WAS DISRUPTED THREE DAYS IN A ROW BECAUSE OF THE SOUND OF THAT EQUIPMENT. SO PRETTY CLEARLY OUR RESIDENTS ARE DISTURBED WHEN THEY'VE GOT THESE TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT IN THERE. I WILL SAY DURING THE SUMMER, IT'S ALREADY STARTING TO GET HOT BY EIGHT. SO IT'S THAT'S A CONCERN FOR FOR THAT. I DO AGREE IN THE WINTER, IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A BURDEN, BUT I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT LIMITING THAT EXTRA HOUR IN THE SUMMERTIME FOR THOSE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. 
          WELL, AND HERE'S WHAT WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL IS THIS IS NOT JUST FOR SUMMERTIME, RIGHT? IT'S ALSO FOR WINTERTIME. AND IN WINTERTIME, IT'S STILL DARK. AT 7 A.M. I SIT WINTER, BUT FALL. AND SO IF WE'RE ALLOWING THEM TO COME IN AT 7 A.M. AND START WORK, THEN THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE LIGHTING. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA FOR THE 85DB. YOU SAY THAT THAT'S THE DECIBEL LEVEL AT WHICH OSHA SAYS THAT YOU COULD SUSTAIN, LIKE PERMANENT HEARING DAMAGE FROM PROLONGED EXPOSURE, FROM PROLONGED EXPOSURE. HOW LONG IS THAT PROLONGED EXPOSURE? IT'S TYPICALLY EIGHT HOURS. SO WHAT THE WHAT THAT 85 DECIBEL LIMITATION IS GEARED TOWARD IS THE WORKER IN THE CONSTRUCTION SITE THAT'S THERE ALL DAY. AND THAT'S WHEN THEY DETERMINE THAT THAT HEARING, THAT HEARING TRAUMA COULD OCCUR. OKAY. AND HOW CLOSE DOES THE PERSON HAVE TO BE IN ORDER TO GET THAT? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S MORE PERTINENT TO THE WORKER. RIGHT? AGREED. SO THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM SOMEONE WHO IS, LET'S SAY, A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET AWAY OR IN THEIR HOME, RIGHT? AND WE KIND OF WE CONSIDERED THAT TOO, YOU KNOW, THINKING IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE COULD BE DISSIPATED OVER OVER THE PERIOD OF THE DISTANCE THAT IT TRAVELS. BUT I DON'T THINK THEY GAVE A SPECIFIC ANY SPECIFIC INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE SOUND IN RELATION TO THE WORKER. I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE AT THE POINT WHERE IT REACHES YOUR EAR. SO, OKAY, BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S HOW THEY MEASURE THAT 85DB. LIKE IF YOU'RE, I GUESS I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS AS TO HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER, BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THIS ORDINANCE FOR RESIDENTS. RIGHT. 
          AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. AND THEN ALSO COMPARATIVES FOR WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE, OR EVEN CARVE OUTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION OR LIKE SPECIAL PERMITS AND WHATNOT. I DID A LITTLE BIT OF DIGGING. SO I KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME VARIANCES THAT CAN OCCUR. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THAT. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON THAT. AND THEN FOR HB 2127, I KNOW DEATH STAR LOCAL PREEMPTION. BU BUT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR CITIES WITHIN THEIR PUBLIC CONTRACTS TO IF IF A CONTRACTOR IS RECEIVING PUBLIC MONEY, YOU CAN HAVE ACTUAL LIKE HEAT SAFETY, WATER BREAK SHADES REQUIREMENTS. SO LIKE THE Q2 STADIUM THAT WAS BUILT IN AUSTIN HAD THOSE PROTECTIONS ON IT AND A PLETHORA OF OTHER LIKE WORKER LIKE PROPER, LIKE CLASSIFICATION, WAGE THEFT PREVENTION, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THINGS. SO IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO LIKE BUILD THOSE THINGS INTO OUR, OUR PUBLIC PROCUREMENT PROCESS. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S IF THEY'RE DOING WORK FOR THE CITY, THOUGH, THAT'S NOT DOING WORK FOR PRIVATE PEOPLE. THAT'S, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ABSOLUTELY WORK INTO OR LOOK INTO FOR PROCUREMENT PROCESSES. THIS ORDINANCE. YEAH, NO, I THINK I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD, THAT IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO DO, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE US TO BE ABLE, LIKE I SAID, FIGURE OUT HOW THAT 85DB CAME ABOUT. LIKE WHAT? LIKE WHAT EXACTLY IS A STANDARD FOR THAT? AND THEN REGULATED BY OSHA, CORRECT? YES. YEAH. WELL, THAT'S OSHA, AND OSHA IS WHEN THEY COME UP WITH THESE FIGURES, MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE COMING UP WITH IT FOR LIKE THE PERSON THAT'S LIKE RIGHT THERE, LIKE FOR THE PERSON THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONSTRUCTION WORK. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE LIKE THAT WE'RE FIGURING OUT AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK HAVING COMPARING CITIES AND SEEING LIKE WHAT SORT OF LIKE CARVE OUTS THEY 
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HAVE, I THINK WILL, WILL BE VERY HELPFUL. OKAY. FOR CLARITY, COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA, UNDER THIS ORDINANCE, THE DECIBEL LEVEL WILL BE MEASURED AT THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. SO WHETHER WHETHER IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE THAN 85DB WHERE THE WORKER IS STANDING, BUT WE MEASURE IT BASED ON THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, BECAUSE THAT'S TO AVOID NOISE THAT WOULD DISTURB THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER PROPERTY THAT'S NOT BEING CONSTRUCTED ON. OKAY. MY BRAIN IS LIKE TRYING TO PICTURE IT, LIKE PEOPLE STANDING LIKE ON YARDS AND STUFF. BUT I, I THINK I STILL WOULD LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. JUST SOME, SOME BETTER CLARIFICATION. WHAT KIND OF CLARIFICATION CAN I ASK? I THINK CLARIFICATION ON HOW EXACTLY WE WOULD ESTABLISH THAT AND GETTING CLARIFICATION ON WHETHER OR NOT 85DB IS. WHEREAS FOR EXAMPLE, IF THAT ONLY HAPPENS AT A SUSTAINED AMOUNT OF LIKE EIGHT HOURS, THEN COULD WE SAY IT COULD NOT LIKE GO PAST EIGHT HOURS OF THIS? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. OKAY. SO THAT WAY WE'RE JUST TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE ALTHOUGH CONSTRUCTION IS AN INCONVENIENCE AT TIMES, IT IS ALSO HOW WE GET PUBLIC GOODS. LIKE THAT IS ALSO LIKE ALL FOR THE BENEFIT OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO NOT IMPEDING IT SO MUCH THAT IT BECOMES THAT IT PUTS A LOT OF STRAIN ON TO LIKE TIMELINES, THAT WE HAVE PROJECTS HOLDING THINGS UP AND WHATNOT, BECAUSE YOU'LL START TO SEE IMPACTS ON THOSE THINGS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE, I THINK, AS IT MIGHT APPEAR ON FACE VALUE. AND THEN AS FAR AS LIKE THE TIMES I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENT TIMES FOR LIKE HOTTER MONTHS, COLDER MONTHS, OR MAYBE LIKE, YEAH, SEASONAL MAYBE. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE GOOD. YEAH, I THINK SO. YEAH. I THINK THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE VARIATION INTO IT. OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. I THINK SEASONAL IS IMPORTANT. I KNOW THAT WHEN THE CREWS ARE POURING SLABS, THAT THE CONCRETE HAS TO BE POURED IN THE MORNING, THAT THEY DON'T WANT. THEY WANT TO POUR IT AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE SUPER HOT DAYS IN THE SUMMER. 
          AND THEY'RE OFTEN OUT THERE POURING AT 5 A.M. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE NOTICED IS THAT EVEN WITH OUR CURRENT GUIDELINES, THE CONTRACTORS ARE IGNORING THEM AND THEY'RE SHOWING UP VERY, VERY EARLY TO THE SITES AND STARTING CONSTRUCTION EVEN IN THE DARK. 
          AND I'VE NOTICED THAT OVER MY HOMETOWN AND THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT IT'S RIGHT THERE BY HOMETOWN, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE BY THE HOUSES AND THEY'RE STARTING OFTEN AT 6 A.M. AND BEING PRETTY NOISY. AND WHEN I ASK ONE OF THE NOW YOU CAN TELL ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS, YOU CAN'T START THIS EARLY, AND THEN THEIR CREW WON'T START THAT EARLY. BUT THEN THE NEXT CREWS COMING IN TO BUILD THE HOUSE AND THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE, THEY START THAT EARLY. 
          SO I THINK SOME ENFORCEMENT IS DEFINITELY CALLED FOR ON THESE PROJECTS. I KNOW A FRIEND OF MINE IN HOMETOWN HAS COMPLAINED AND COMPLAINED AND COMPLAINED, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT THE NOISE. THEY'RE WAKING HER UP VERY EARLY HOURS WHEN SHE WORKS TILL SOMETIMES 2 A.M. 
          OKAY, YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT MAKES A GREAT POINT BECAUSE IF WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT, MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THIS FAR. BUT AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF SEASONAL TOO, BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S HOT. I GET IT. 
          I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM OUT THERE EITHER. BUT ALSO WHEN IT GETS TO BE DARK EARLIER AND NOW YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL ISSUES YOU DEAL WITH, I THINK BRINGING BACK SOMETHING THAT'S SEASONAL, BUT ALSO WHEN YOU BRING BACK WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR TEN PEER CITIES. AND SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL UPDATE THOSE. AND SO IT'S KIND OF MORE RELEVANT TO THE CITY OF KYLE AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, TO ME, AUSTIN'S NOT THE SAME. SAN ANTONIO IS NOT THE SAME. WE ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. AND SO COMPARING THEM TO CITIES LIKE NEW BRAUNFELS OR SAN MARCOS, BUDA, TO AN EXTENT THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED. OKAY, WELL, THIS IS ALL GOOD INPUT. WE COULD CERTAINLY PUT SOME MORE STUFF TOGETHER FOR Y'ALL. OKAY. SO DO WE WANT DO WE WANT TO? COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA FOR YOUR 85DB, WHAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT ARE WE MEASURING? WELL, PD, PD WOULD BE THE ONE TO ENFORCE THIS. SO 
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THEY ALREADY HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. NO, I MEAN LIKE WHAT CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, A NAIL GUN WHEN IT'S JUST ACTIVELY RUNNING, NOT DISCHARGING THE COMPRESSOR. THE NAIL GUN IS AROUND 90DB, BUT WHEN THEY ARE SHOOTING IT, IT'S LIKE 105. SO A, A SMALL COMPRESSOR IS RIGHT AROUND 90DB. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT IT EARLIER AND I KNOW IT WAS SAYING THINGS AROUND 85DB WOULD BE NOISE EQUIVALENT TO YOUR GARBAGE DISPOSAL OR NOISY RESTAURANT. SO JUST TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT EQUIPMENT THEN WOULD ACTUALLY BECAUSE I MEAN, LISTENING TO YOUR GARBAGE DISPOSAL FOR EIGHT HOURS. YEAH, IT WOULD BE A PAIN IN THE BEHIND, BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE THAT MEASUREMENT OUTSIDE, THAT'S CONSTRUCTION. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING WOULD BE LOUDER. AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER GOSA MENTIONED LIKE THE MICRO TRENCHING THAT'S BETWEEN 95 AND 120DB. YEAH. SO IT'S JUST HARD TO IMAGINE WHAT CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT WOULD BE AT THAT LEVEL OF 85 IF IT'S COMPARED TO LIKE A GARBAGE DISPOSAL. I THINK THERE WOULD BE IF WE DID GO WITH THE 85 DECIBEL LIMIT, I THINK THEY WOULD GET A LOT OF CALLS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO OPERATE BELOW THAT LEVEL, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HOUSES ALL BEING CLOSER AND CLOSER TOGETHER. YEAH, AND FROM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT, THAT'S AT THE PROPERTY LINE AND THEN GOING INTO YOUR PROPERTY, LIKE INTO YOUR HOME, INTO YOUR BACKYARD, IT DOESN'T GIVE THAT MUCH OF A VARIANCE FROM THE 85 DOWN TO, SAY, 80 TO 75. SO IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE, THOUGH, WE DON'T WANT THE LOUD NOISE, THAT SETTING A LIMIT OF 85 WOULD ALMOST BE SETTING US UP FOR FAILURE. MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE A SUSTAINED LEVEL OR SOMETHING, SOME VERBIAGE ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          OKAY, OKAY, SO SHOULD SHOULD WE, AMY, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD MAKE JUST A MOTION AND THEN INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THE 85DB, THE PEER CITIES AND THE SEASONAL MONTHS? SO WE DON'T HAVE SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY. SO IT WILL COME BACK FOR SECOND READING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ON FIRST READING, SUBJECT TO BRINGING BACK POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS FOR SECOND READING. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 15. CONTINGENT ON THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED. 
          RIGHT. AND YOU UNDERSTAND, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE YOU GOOD DIRECTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          SECOND MOTION BY MYSELF. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GOZA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT, CONSIDER AND 
          [16) Consider approval of a Resolution authorizing Alliance Regional Water Authority (ARWA) water sharing agreement between Crystal Clear Special Utility District (SUD) and the City of Kyle for up to 223,185 gallons per day with an initial term of one year, with successive annual renewals until terminated by either party with a six-month notice, at a maximum Fiscal Year 2026 cost of $62,495.56 and a maximum Fiscal Year 2027 cost of $188,317.60.]
APPROVE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY WATER SHARING AGREEMENT BETWEEN CRYSTAL CLEAR SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT SUD AND THE CITY OF KYLE FOR UP TO 223,185 GALLONS PER DAY, WITH AN INITIAL TERM OF ONE YEAR WITH SUCCESSIVE ANNUAL RENEWALS UNTIL TERMINATED BY EITHER PARTY WITH A SIX MONTH NOTICE AT A MAXIMUM FISCAL YEAR 2026 COST OF $62,495.56, AND A MAXIMUM FISCAL YEAR COST OF FISCAL YEAR 2027. COST OF $188,317.16. ITEM PRESENTER MIKE MURPHY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MIKE MURPHY, DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES. I'LL GO THROUGH THIS PRETTY FAST. SO WE'RE WORKING A DEAL RIGHT NOW WITH OUR GOOD FRIENDS OVER AT CRYSTAL CLEAR SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT THAT GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO SHARE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN CRYSTAL CLEAR AND THE CITY OF KYLE. SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. COUNCIL ADOPTED A WATER MASTER PLAN BACK IN APRIL OF 2025. AND IN THAT WATER MASTER PLAN, IT IDENTIFIED SHORT TERM STRATEGIES TO ENSURE ADEQUATE WATER SUPPLY BASED ON CURRENT CONDITIONS AND FUTURE OBLIGATIONS FROM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. THESE INCLUDED THE AWWA PARTNER AGREEMENTS OR WITH PHASE ONE C AND ONE D, AND KEEP THAT IN MIND. OR WILL PHASE ONE, ONE C AND ONE D. THAT'S CRITICAL. THE EA LEASE AGREEMENTS, AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY AND NON-POTABLE REUSE. SO OUR PHASE 1C1D EXPANSION PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY PROJECTED TO BE ONLINE IN MAY OF 2027, AND HAS SINCE BEEN DELAYED UNTIL LATE 2028 OR THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2029, LEAVING A GAP IN OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE WATER. SO FIRST, OUR PARTNER AGREEMENT EXECUTED BY CITY COUNCIL BACK IN MARCH OF 2025 FOR 730 ACRE FEET, OR ROUGHLY 650,000 GALLONS PER DAY WITH GREEN VALLEY. SO THE CITY OF 
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KYLE AND CRYSTAL CLEAR THROUGH ITS MEMBERSHIP IN CANYON REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, OUR SPONSORS OF AWWA, WHICH HAS A CARRIZO AQUIFER GROUNDWATER SUPPLY PROJECT, KYLE ANTICIPATES THE NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL CARRIZO CARRIZO WATER SUPPLY FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO FILL IN THAT GAP. SO THAT GAP, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. IN ADDITION TO ITS CURRENT ALLOTMENT. SO CRYSTAL CLEAR HAS SUPPLIES ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR PROJECTED NEEDS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND OUR WORKING RELATIONSHIP. AND I'LL INTRODUCE MICHAEL SEDONIA. HE IS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF CRYSTAL CLEAR SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT AND IS A GOOD FRIEND. AND WE ALL SIT ON THE BOARD TOGETHER WITH DOCTOR HARRIS, MYSELF AND BLAKE NEUENDORF, SO CRYSTAL CLEAR, IS WILLING TO COMMIT AND MAKE AVAILABLE WATER TO KYLE FROM THEIR EXISTING AWWA PHASE ONE B DURING IT DURING A TIME PERIOD AS DESCRIBED IN THIS LEASE AGREEMENT. AND SO THIS IS A MUTUAL BENEFIT TO TO BOTH PARTIES. THIS IS OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH CORPUS CHRISTI. WE'RE ABLE TO PURCHASE THIS WATER THAT THEY DON'T NEED. AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE UNDER A TAKE OR PAY CONTRACT JUST LIKE WE ARE. AND SO THEY'RE SITTING ON THIS WATER. SO THIS IS A BENEFIT TO THEM ALSO. SO WE'LL BE PAYING THEM FOR THE WATER THAT THEY REALLY AREN'T USING. 
          SO WE'LL KIND OF GO TO THESE CHARTS. I KNOW THAT'S VERY HARD TO READ, BUT IN YOUR STAFF MEMO IT'S MUCH CLEARER. AND I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST KIND OF READ YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON THE, ON THE CHART IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER. BUT THE OUR PROJECT WAS PROJECTED TO BE ONLINE IN 2020 IN LATE, I'M SORRY, MAY OF 2027. 
          BUT NOW IT'S LOOKING MORE LIKE THE END OF 28 OR THE FIRST PART OF 2029 AGREEMENT WITH CORPUS OR WITH CRYSTAL CLEAR ALLOWS THE CITY TO ACCESS A FIRM SUPPLY OF WATER THAT IS NOT SUBJECT TO DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS AND HELP TO ENSURE BOTH AVERAGE DAY AND MAXIMUM DAY WATER SYSTEM DEMANDS CAN BE SERVED AND ARE NOT EXCEEDED BASED ON THE CURRENT CONNECTION COUNT, ANTICIPATED AND GROWTH PROJECTIONS UNTIL AWWA PHASE ONE C1 D EXPANSION PROJECTS IS ONLINE, SO YOU CAN'T READ THAT AT THE VERY TOP OF THAT CHART. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. SO ORIGINALLY WE WERE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 2 MILLION, JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER 2 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER IN MAY OF 2027. NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WATER IS GOING TO BE, LIKE I SAID, PROBABLY THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2029, WHICH LEAVES US A GAP OF ABOUT 2.2 MILLION GALLONS. SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT THE AGREEMENT WITH GREEN VALLEY FOR 650 000. THIS AGREEMENT WITH CRYSTAL CLEAR WILL PROVIDE US AN ADDITIONAL 220,000 GALLONS PER DAY, WHICH GETS US CLOSER. WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE. WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO GET TO $1 MILLION THRESHOLD RIGHT NOW. THIS GETS US A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT ABOVE. 870,000 GALLONS, MORE LIKE 873,000 GALLONS. SO THAT'S GETTING CLOSER. AND SO THIS AGREEMENT WITH WITH CRYSTAL CLEAR OPENS THE DOOR FOR FUTURE AGREEMENTS BASED ON THEIR AGREEMENT WITH THE EDWARDS AQUIFER. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATE AFTER THIS AGREEMENT IS PUT IN PLACE. SO HERE'S THE AGREEMENT. CRYSTAL CLEAR WILL MAKE IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE 250 000 ACRE FEET PER YEAR, OR ROUGHLY 223,000 GALLONS PER DAY OF ITS ORAL PHASE. ONE B CARRIZO WATER TO KYLE. KYLE WILL TAKE DELIVERY OF THE ADDITIONAL WATER AT A DELIVERY POINT. WE'VE GOT THREE POINTS THAT WE CAN DELIVER IT TO. IT'S WE'VE GOT THE 1626 TAKES POINT THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT IS CAPABLE OF TAKING THAT WATER. WE'VE GOT THE 158 COUNTY ROAD 158 PUMP STATION, WHICH IS CAPABLE OF TAKING THAT WATER. AND WE'VE GOT THE ONE WATER STONE PUMP STATION WHICH IS CAPABLE OF TAKING THAT WATER. AND THEN THE FOURTH TAKE POINT COULD BE WHEN WE DO BUILD THE THIRD TAKE POINT FOR OUR WATER. THE THE ANNUAL SUPPLY AND DELIVERY RATE ARE IN ADDITION TO CAL'S EXISTING AWWA PHASE ONE WATER. SO THE AGREEMENT TERMS ARE VERY, VERY SIMPLE. 
          AND THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME AGREEMENT WE'VE GOT WITH GREEN VALLEY, WHICH IS ONE YEAR UPON EXECUTION OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT BY THE CITY MANAGER, AND THEN ONE YEAR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL TERMS OF EITHER, UNLESS EITHER PARTY PROVIDES A WRITTEN NOTICE OF TERMINATION OF SIX 
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MONTHS. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE'LL GO GO 12 MONTHS, AND THEN IT'S AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR ANOTHER 12 MONTHS UNTIL ONE ONE OF THE OTHER PARTIES DECIDES IT'S TIME TO GET OUT. AND THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE EITHER THEY GIVE US OR WE GIVE THEM A SIX MONTH. TIMELINE TO FOR THE RENEWAL. SO OUR TERMINATION. SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS. VERY SIMPLE. SO STATUS. THE CURRENT OFFER OF PHASE ONE B WATER INCLUDES FIXED O&M EXPENSES OF ROUGHLY $2,700 PER MONTH, ADJUSTED BY OUR BOARD VARIABLE O&M EXPENSES OF $1.01 PER 1000 GALLONS BASED ON METER DELIVERY, ADJUSTED BY OUR BOARD AND THE INTERIM CLARIFICATION OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENT O&M EXPENSES SPECIFIC TO PHASE ONE B OF ROUGHLY $1,900 PER MONTH. AND THIS IS. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT THIS IS TO TREAT THE WATER FOR PHASE ONE, B THAT HAS A HIGH LEVEL OF IRON AND MANGANESE. THE CITY OF KYLE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYMENT DIRECTLY TO AWWA BASED ON CRYSTAL CLEAR SUDS PERCENTAGE. AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS. SO INSTEAD OF CRYSTAL CLEAR PAYING R FOR THAT WATER, WE WILL BE PAYING DIRECTLY TO AWWA AND THE SPONSOR SHARE OF THE TOTAL FIXED AND RENTAL COSTS. COSTS PAID DIRECTLY TO AWWA WILL REMAIN IN PLACE UNTIL THE INTERIM WORK IS COMPLETE, AS DETERMINED BY THE AWWA BOARD. SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS ONCE THE ONE C OR ONCE ONE B, I'M SORRY, ONCE 1C1D WATER IS COMPLETE, THEN THAT $5,000 FALLS OFF. AND SO THE IT EVEN BECOMES MORE AFFORDABLE FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. SO HERE'S JUST A FEW COST COMPARISONS. FIRST OF ALL, THE THE MAXIMUM ANTICIPATED COST FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2026 IS AROUND $62,000, AND THE MAXIMUM ANTICIPATED COST FOR 2027 IS AROUND 188,000. COST COMPARISON PER 1000 GALLONS. WITH OTHER AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE THE AWWA, GREEN VALLEY, SD AND CRYSTAL CLEAR AGREEMENTS IS AROUND $2.31 PER 1000, AND THAT IS BY FAR THE CHEAPEST WATER THAT IS AVAILABLE IN THIS AREA. THE SAN MARCOS LEASE AGREEMENT IS $3.41 PER THOUSAND GALLONS, AND THE SAN MARCOS EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT $6.42 PER THOUSAND. THE GBR CANYON LAKE PROJECT IS AT $2.93. SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE WATER AVAILABLE TO US TO KEEP THIS PROJECT GOING. SO OUR OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OR DO NOT APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. 
          THERE IS REALLY NO FINANCIAL IMPACT OTHER THAN THE $62,000 FOR THIS YEAR. WE HAVE THAT FUNDING AVAILABLE IN OUR WATER SUPPLY. AND THAT'S THAT'S OUTLINED IN THE STAFF MEMO. IF YOU GO TO THE FINANCE PART PORTION OF THAT, YOU'LL SEE HOW THAT ALL BREAKS OUT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY $3 MILLION IN THAT ACCOUNT. AND SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE'VE ONLY SPENT ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN HALF OF THAT. SO I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND WE'VE GOT MICHAEL HERE. I'M SURE HE WANTS TO COME UP AND JUST SAY, MAYOR, COUNCIL, MISS HARRIS AND COMMITTEE JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, MAKE A FACE TO FACE. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SIT HERE AND JUST KIND OF LISTEN TO YOU ALL CONDUCT BUSINESS, JUST LOOKING TO STRENGTHEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE CITIES OR WITHIN THE OUR PARTNERSHIPS. PERSONALLY, I'VE BEEN THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR ABOUT FOUR MONTHS. AND MR. MURPHY APPROACHED ME RELATIVELY EARLY, AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WAS VERY EAGER TO AGAIN, HELP OUT A NEIGHBORING PARTNER WHERE WE HAD THE ABILITY TO HELP OUT, AND I DON'T THINK IT STOPS THERE, BUT I DID WANT TO GET SOMETHING EXECUTED RELATIVELY PRETTY QUICKLY. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY PROVING THIS PARTNERSHIP AND MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR SITTING HERE THE WHOLE TIME. I APPRECIATE THAT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I ALSO APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP. THIS IS HUGE FOR OUR CITY. 
          THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR ASKING. AND THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS FOR BEING WILLING. THIS IS THIS IS A BIG DEAL. AND JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE THE CRYSTAL CLEAR BOARD APPROVED THIS, I THINK ON JUNE THE 3RD. AND SO THEY HAVE AGREED TO THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'RE READY TO GO. 
          ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 16 SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF. YEAH. OKAY. WE CAN JUST DO A MOTION A SECOND AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS A MOTION BY MYSELF A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. ALL RIGHT. ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION. 
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DOES ARWA GET DO WE GET ANYTHING WHEN ARWA CONTINUES EXTENDING THE TIMELINE? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE THE ONLY TIME THAT THAT HAPPENS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LEFT TRYING TO FILL THIS GAP. AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING LIKE, YEAH, WHAT, WHAT SORT OF SAFETY MECHANISMS DO WE HAVE ON OUR END? SO WE'RE NOT JUST CONTINUOUSLY FOOTING THE BILL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I'D LIKE TO MENTION ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THERE IS THIS GAP RIGHT NOW. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THE REASONS, BUT GBRA HAS CHANGED THEIR THEIR PIPELINE ROUTING OR IS TRYING TO CHANGE THEIR PIPELINE ROUTING TO LOCKHART. AND THAT IS DELAYING THE THE THAT PROJECT, THE ONE C AND ONE D PROJECT SIGNIFICANTLY. AND WE'VE REQUESTED CHANGES IN THAT TO BENEFIT US BETTER. WE DIDN'T LIKE THEIR ORIGINAL CHANGES. 
          AND THEN THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER REASONS AS WELL. YES. SO THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE BIGGEST DELAY IS A RESULT OF THE, THE, THE NOT THE IRON AND MANGANESE THAT THEY DISCOVERED FROM THE CARRIZO AQUIFER. AND SO IT WAS UNANTICIPATED. AND SO THAT IS THE THAT IS THE HUGE DELAY HERE. 
          AND ALL OF THE ALL OF THE MEMBER CITIES AND SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICTS ARE TAKING A SHARE OF THAT. THAT IS A COST THAT IS BASICALLY UNAVOIDABLE FOR US. WE ARE. THERE IS LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW THAT THAT THAT ISSUE WAS NOT RECOGNIZED. 
          IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BIG IT'S NOT THERE'S NO WAY IT'S GOING TO COVER THE COST OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A WATER UTILITY EVENT, I THINK IS COMING UP SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER OR AUGUST FOR COUNCIL, THE WATER PALOOZA. AND SO ONE OF OUR INVITEES IS GOING TO BE GRAHAM MOORE FROM WHO'S. HE IS THE, THE DIRECTOR OF AT AT THE ARWA ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY. AND SO HE'S GOING TO COME AND GIVE COUNCIL AN UPDATE AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT, WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE AND ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. NO, I APPRECIATE IT. SO HE WILL BE HERE FOR THAT. I CAN TELL YOU IT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT YOU FEEL, COUNCILWOMAN. IT'S A QUESTION THAT'S FELT ACROSS ALL THE SPONSORS, ALL ALL THE SPONSORS ACROSS THE BOARD. THE DELAY IS THIS IS JUST OUR WAY OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT ON THE PHASE ONE, BE CRYSTAL CLEAR, MY PREDECESSOR WENT IN ON ON MORE WATER THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE. SO AGAIN, WE THE NEED WAS WITH KYLE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL. I THINK I'M LIKE, THIS IS GREAT. 
          I'M LIKE, MY EYES ARE LIKE, WHAT Y'ALL DOING OVER THERE? THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE ANOTHER 50 SET THAT ARE THAT ARE ALSO THE SAME WAY. SO I AM THE VICE. I'M ALSO PART OF THE, OUR BOARD, THE VICE CHAIR OF OUR BOARD. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY, VERY MUCH, BUT I IT'S UNFORESEEN. YEAH. SO I EXPECT THAT SOME OF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION 
          [17) Consider approval of a Resolution approving a contract amendment with HousingWorks Austin in an amount not to exceed $5,000.00 to add an Anti-Displacement Strategy study to the existing scope of work for the Housing Assessment, increasing the total contract amount to an amount not to exceed $50,000.00 and extending the term of the agreement by six (6) months.]
PASSES 6 TO 0. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM 17. AND I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME GUYS. WE JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION THROUGH THE REST OF THE NIGHT. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH HOUSING WORKS AUSTIN IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,000 TO ADD AN ANTI DISPLACEMENT STRATEGY STUDY TO THE EXISTING SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE HOUSING ASSESSMENT, INCREASING THE TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 50,000 AND EXTENDING THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT BY SIX MONTHS. ITEM PRESENTER JASON LUTZ. YES. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. I'M EXCITED. I GET TO SAY THAT TODAY. SORRY TRIMBLE. SO QUICK RESOLUTION TODAY THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES. THAT IS ADD A SCOPE OF WORK AND EXTEND THIS CONTRACT. SO BEFORE I GET INTO THERE WE GO A LITTLE SUMMARY. SO WE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING A HOUSING STUDY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TYPES OF HOMES ARE AVAILABLE IN KYLE. THIS IS LOOKING AT RENTAL OWNS DIFFERENT TYPES APARTMENTS TOWNHOMES. THE REPORT'S GOING TO PROVIDE DATA ON INCOME LEVELS FAMILY SIZES. AND THEN COUNCIL RECENTLY PROVIDED STAFF TO LOOK AT AN ANTI DISPLACEMENT STUDY. SO IF YOU REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL HOUSING STUDY WAS APPROVED IN MAY OF 2025. ORIGINAL COST WAS 65,000. 45,000 WAS PAID BY THE CITY, WITH ANOTHER 20,000 COMING FROM A GRANT THROUGH HOUSING WORKS. THE EXPECTED COMPLETION. THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS FOR SEVEN MONTHS. THERE WAS SOME DELAY GETTING COUNCIL FEEDBACK, SO WE HAD SOME DELAY ON THE CONTRACT ITSELF. I DO BELIEVE HOUSING WORKS DID A REPORT TO COUNCIL 
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IN DECEMBER, BUT THEY DID NOT EXTEND THAT CONTRACT AT THAT TIME. BUT THIS AMENDMENT IS GOING TO ADD TO THAT SCOPE OF WORK. AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO ADD THE DISPLACEMENT STUDY AND EXTEND THE CONTRACT BY SIX MONTHS OFFICIALLY, WHICH WILL WRAP THAT UP IN JULY. AND WITH THE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL IN AUGUST, THIS DISPLACEMENT STUDY AND CONTRACT IS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 5000 NOT TO EXCEED, BRINGING THE TOTAL TO 50,000. SO WHAT IS AN ANTI DISPLACEMENT STUDY? IT'S A RESEARCH AND PLANNING ASSESSMENTS DESIGNED TO EVALUATE HOW RISING HOUSING COSTS, NEW DEVELOPMENTS OR CITY POLICIES. GOVERNMENT POLICIES ARE IMPACTING VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. IT WILL PROVIDE MORE CONTEXT REGARDING WHAT POPULATIONS ARE AT RISK IN KYLE, AND THEN TRY TO CREATE STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT RISKS. WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS SCOPE OF WORK ARE THREE THINGS. THE VULNERABILITY INDICATORS. 
          AGAIN, WHO'S THE POPULATIONS THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED RACE, ETHNICITY, TENURE, RENTER STATUS. THEY WILL PROVIDE A PEER CASE STUDY. SO THIS WILL BE LOOKING AT OTHER COMMUNITIES THEIR DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION STRATEGIES AND PROGRAMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO THEY MAY INCLUDE OPTIONS FOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POLICIES THE CITY COULD IMPLEMENT AS PART OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS IS DATA OR MAPPING ON WHERE DISPLACEMENT IS OCCURRING CURRENTLY IN KYLE, IF YOU REMEMBER, THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS INDICATED THAT IT WAS NOT APPLICABLE IN THE CITY. WE WEREN'T SEEING THOSE KIND OF CONDITIONS THAT WERE CAUSING THAT CHANGE IN THE HOUSING MARKET. SO THEY WEREN'T PRESENT BASED ON THE AVAILABLE DATA AT THE TIME. BUT WE ARE SEEING SOME PRESSURES. SO TO GO BACK, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED. NO, MA'AM. THERE WILL BE NO DATA OR MAPPING OF WHERE THESE AREAS ARE. SO THEY HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED AREAS THAT ARE THAT ARE SUBJECT TO DISPLACEMENT RIGHT NOW. SO THERE WOULD BE NOTHING TO KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. IF WE MOVE FORWARD THIS WOULD BE INCLUDED. THIS WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED. NO, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. 
          IMPLEMENTATION. HOW WE USE THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT CONSIDERING RESOURCES CAPACITY AND FUTURE PLANNING. SO THIS WOULD GUIDE OUR FUTURE DECISION MAKINGS NOT ONLY STAFF POLICIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS BUT COUNCIL DECISIONS AS WELL. SO A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF THIS WOULD BE IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHICH RESIDENTS IN KYLE ARE VULNERABLE, YOU CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT STABILIZE SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO HOME OWNERSHIP MIGHT BE AN ISSUE OR INCOME TRENDS AMONG SENIORS. SO IT MIGHT NEED TO LOOK THROUGH INCENTIVIZING AGING IN PLACE PROGRAMS, DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THERE'S A COUPLE GOOD EXAMPLE HERE IS THERE'S A CASE STUDY WHERE THEY DO A COME DREAM COME BUILD PROGRAM. THIS IS FROM BROWNSVILLE. I'VE BEEN PART OF A SIMILAR PROJECT IN BURNET. IT WAS VERY HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL. SO THIS IS LOOKING AT EXPANDING OWNERSHIP PROGRAMS FOR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS THROUGH COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS, PARTNERING WITH LOCAL BUILDERS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE JUST GENERAL ANTI-DISPLACEMENT RECOMMENDATION STRATEGIES. SO IF WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE CERTAIN HOUSING TYPE OR PRICE POINT THAT THAT WE NEED MORE OF THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OR ZONING REWRITE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO TONIGHT, YOUR OPTIONS ARE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED, APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR DENY. AND BASED ON COUNCIL DIRECTION, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THE RESIDENT EXPERT, ALVES IS HERE. HE'S MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT THAN I AM. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. SORRY, I'M LIKE THE MOST EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I THINK THAT THIS IS FANTASTIC. AND I AND I KNOW THAT IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, IT'S YOU KNOW, THE PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT APPLICABLE TO CITY KYLE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF THE GAME. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I THINK THAT THIS IS SUCH A GREAT EXTENSION, BECAUSE THE POINT OF ANTI-DISPLACEMENT IS THAT YOU WANT TO GET TO IT BEFORE THE DISPLACEMENT ACTUALLY STARTS OCCURRING. AND I THINK THE ONE QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE ABOUT LIKE THE VULNERABILITY INDICATORS, I THINK, WHAT EXACTLY IS IT THAT YOU'RE HOPING FOR? THE STORY OF THOSE VULNERABLE VULNERABILITY INDICATORS TO TELL? OUR HOPE WOULD BE THE ABILITY TO REALLY MAP OUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. SENIORS OFTEN COME UP, FOLKS, FAMILIES LIVING WITH CHILDREN IN POVERTY. SO ESSENTIALLY MAPPING OUT WHO ARE THOSE GROUPS THAT NEED SUPPORT. AND THEN WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES IN CITY WORK TO ASSESS WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT CAN ESSENTIALLY ASSIST THEM IN THAT WORK. OKAY. 
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AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A LITTLE TOO BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT IN-DEPTH INFORMATION. WE CAN'T NECESSARILY MAP IT, BUT ARE WE ABLE TO KIND OF CALL OUT WHERE LIKE THE VERBALLY OR JUST EVEN ON PAPER, LIKE GENERALLY THIS TENDS TO HAPPEN IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE DEFINED BY THESE FEATURES AND WHATNOT. YES, COUNCILMEMBER, WE CAN WORK ON ADDING THAT IN PART OF IT IS THE DATA QUIRKINESS OF IT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE GEOGRAPHY SIZE AND THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY MAP OUT SOME OF THOSE HOTSPOTS AND SEE, OKAY, YEAH, EVEN IF IT'S JUST EXAMPLES, I THINK. SO THAT WAY WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW TO APPLY THAT MOVING FORWARD. SO LIKE, I'M EVEN THINKING OF LIKE, IF WE ARE GOING TO PURSUE LIKE THE GEO BOND WITH CAPISTRANO PARKWAY, LIKE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE SOME DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES THAT COME ALONGSIDE IT. SO THE FASTER THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THIS, THE BETTER THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DETERMINE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT BOND PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE. AND SO LIKE THAT ENTIRE LIKE BOND ADVISORY TEAM WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION AT THEIR FINGERTIPS TO BE ABLE TO HELP ASSIST THEM IN FIGURING OUT HOW THAT GOES. SO, I MEAN, I'M JUST, I'M REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT QUITE A BIT. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS. I KNOW THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ETJ. 
          NOR OR NOR ARE WE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS, BUT I THINK EVENTUALLY WE MAY WANT TO DO A SECOND PHASE OF THIS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY. I THINK SOME OF OUR LOWEST INCOME AREA RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA ARE OUT IN OUR ETJ, AND THEIR CHALLENGES ARE LEGION TRAILER HOUSES THAT ARE BASICALLY NOT LIVABLE, THAT ARE FALLING DOWN, THAT ARE UNACCEPTABLE AND EXTREMELY LOW INCOME. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EXTEND IT EVEN MORE EVENTUALLY, NOT MAYBE THROUGH THIS EXACT CONTRACT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WE WILL EVENTUALLY INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE AREAS INTO THE CITY OF KYLE, AND WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THEM NOW. YEAH, THE COUNTY CAN PAY FOR IT. AND I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE COUNTY TOO. I KNOW WE ARE COUNTY TOO. I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST SAYING LIKE I'M TRYING TO GET THIS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YEAH. I DON'T MEAN I'M GOOD WITH THIS NOW. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S A SECOND IN ADDITION TO. YEAH. AND COUNCIL MEMBER, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE A BAD RESEARCHER FOR A LITTLE BIT AND SAY, AS WE'RE DOING THEIR WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN CARRYING ON, THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MUCH MORE GEARED TO THE COUNTY LEVEL. LIKE HOMELESSNESS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. IT'S HARD FOR THE CITY OF KYLE TO DO ALL THAT WORK. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR COUNTYWIDE COORDINATION? SO SOME OF THAT WORK ALREADY FROM THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FROM PARTNER CITY STAFF, AND THE DATA IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. BEYOND THAT, HOW DOES IT ALL ENGAGE WITH THE COUNTY IS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT QUESTION. THANKS. NO, I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW DO YOU GUYS OBTAIN THIS INFORMATION. SO WE'RE USING MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DATA SETS. 
          LARGELY THE VULNERABILITY COMES FROM THE CENSUS BUREAU. SO THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS SEVERAL DATA SETS THAT WE'RE USING. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS IS WHERE WE'RE PULLING. AND THEN THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND HUD HAS DATA. WE'RE COMBINING THAT WITH MARKET LEVEL DATA THAT IS LOCALIZED. AND THEN WE'RE ESSENTIALLY PULLING OUT SOME DATA THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU GUYS COULD CONTACT THE SCHOOLS? I KNOW THERE'S A LIST OF KIDS THAT FALL ON, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE HOMELESS IN GENERAL OR JUST DON'T HAVE A HOME TO CALL THEIR OWN. I THINK THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND OR, OR, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY IN KYLE, BUT IN ORDER TO GET A GOOD IDEA OF HOW THAT'S AFFECTING OUR FAMILIES. SO FOR ME, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ADDITION, THAT WE CAN SEE THE EFFECTS OF A OF A ROAD BOND AND THE DISPLACEMENT THERE. BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THROUGH THE 2022 ROAD BOND AND I SAW SIX HOMES BE TAKEN. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR ME, THAT'S THE REAL DISPLACEMENT, RIGHT? IT'S ALSO DISPLACEMENT WHEN OUR TAXES ARE TOO HIGH OR OUR WATER FEES ARE TOO HIGH. ARE YOU IS THAT INFORMATION GOING TO BE THAT WILL BE. AND MAYOR, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE ARE OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, INTERVIEWING AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND THEN ALSO UTILIZING SOME DATA FROM THEIR DEMOGRAPHIC PROFILE, BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES A GREAT JOB, HONESTLY, OF PRODUCING THAT WORK. THEY DO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I WOULD LOVE IT. OKAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17. 
          SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA AND A SECOND BY MYSELF. ANY OTHER CONVERSATION QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS ENTIRE TIME. YES. OH MY GOSH. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED I MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. OUT OF 
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CURIOSITY WHERE IS THAT FUNDING GOING TO COME FROM. THE 5000. DO WE KNOW HOW THIS IS GOING TO GET PAID. YES. SO MAYOR IS GOING TO COME FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S OPERATING BUDGET. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT, WE ARE GOING, OH, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THOUGH I DO, I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PEER CITIES AS WELL. AND SO TO IF JASON COULD MAKE SURE THAT AFTER WE TALK ABOUT THE PEER CITIES, THAT INFORMATION GETS TRANSFERRED TO THEM AS WELL TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IF THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE PEER CITIES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ON TARGET WITH THE ONES THAT WE CHOOSE MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN I THINK, JUST TO BE CORRECT, THE OFFICIAL PEER CITIES THAT WE HAVE ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT OCCURS IN THESE STUDIES, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT EVERY SINGLE STUDY THAT WE DO WHERE WE LOOK UP PEER CITIES AND WHATNOT ISN'T NECESSARILY BASED ON LIKE OUR OFFICIAL ONES. IS THAT. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHO, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GIVE A FLAT OUT WHICH WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT. LIKE IF WHATEVER IT IS, IT SHOULD BE THE SAME TEN PEER CITIES. WELL, IT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU DO IT IN TERMS OF ALSO, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT, SOME OF THE PEER CITIES HERE THAT WE MIGHT OFFICIALLY IDENTIFY MAY NOT HAVE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT PROGRAMS. AND SO LIKE THE, THE REASON LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE IN A STUDY LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD DO PEER CITIES ACROSS THE NATION JUST TO PULL IN EXAMPLES OF OTHER AREAS THAT DO HAVE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT PROGRAMS. SO IF YOU LIMIT THEM TO CERTAIN CITIES, SOMETIMES THEY JUST DON'T HAVE EQUIVALENTS. OKAY. HAD I KNOWN THAT, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WAS JUST ASSUMING IT WAS GOING TO BE THE PEER CITIES THAT ARE RELEVANT TO. KYLE. 
          YEAH. I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I AGAIN, I'M NOT A HOUSING EXPERT, BUT IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT WE DO. I THINK WE ALWAYS START WITH OUR PEER CITIES. WHAT ARE PEOPLE IN OUR REGION DOING BECAUSE WE HAVE SIMILAR ECONOMIES, SIMILAR PRESSURES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT THE VARIABLES IN THOSE CITIES. SO I CAN I CAN SAY KYLE IS VERY SIMILAR TO BUDA IN LOCATION AND SIZE, BUT I CAN ALSO SAY THERE'S JUST A DIFFERENT LITTLE GEOGRAPHIC GEOGRAPHIC CHANGES. FLOODPLAINS, DRAINAGE CAN CHANGE ALL OF THAT. SO WHAT WHAT MAY WORK THERE MAY NOT WORK HERE. SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, WE WOULD START WITH PEER CITIES, BUT WE WOULDN'T WE WOULDN'T LIMIT TO THAT. WE WOULD LOOK THROUGH AND KIND OF DIG THROUGH THE DATA AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT APPLES TO APPLES. 
          YEAH. I'M THINKING WITH THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO SAN MARCOS OR I, WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS LIKE SAN ANTONIO. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S, I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY COMING OUT OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DISPLACEMENT THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING. THE BROWNSVILLE PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED AS AN EXAMPLE, I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE. I LOOKED INTO IT A LITTLE BIT. IT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT WAS RUN IN BURNET. THAT ONE MIGHT BE MORE VIABLE FOR US TO LOOK AT BECAUSE IT'S A SMALLER COMMUNITY, SIMILAR DEMOGRAPHICS, SIMILAR LOCATION. NOT SAYING THAT THAT WOULD BE A PEER CITY FOR US, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING CLOSER TO HOME WITH WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, DIRECT CORRELATION TO WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I WILL SHARE THAT WITH WITH US. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK 
          [20) Consider approval of Supplemental Work Authorization (SWA) No. 2 to Work Authorization (WA) No. 2 to K Friese + Associates, LLC in the amount of $2,549,903.06 for continued program management services as part of the 2022 Road Bond Program for a total contract value of $15,325,094.98.]
YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM 20. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF SUPPLEMENTAL WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER TWO TO WORK. AUTHORIZATION NUMBER W A, NUMBER TWO TO K FREESE AND ASSOCIATES, LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,549,903.06 FOR CONTINUED PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES AS PART OF THE 2022 ROAD BOND, FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT VALUE OF $15,325,094.98. ITEM PRESENTER MIKE TRIMBLE. HI, GOOD MORNING, MIKE TRIMBLE, DIRECTOR, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. 
          YEAH, SO THIS ITEM IS THE NEXT WORK AUTHORIZATION FOR YOUR GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, YOUR GEC FOR THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S PURPOSE GEC IS TYPICALLY YOUR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND THAT AND GEC TERM GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT IS PRETTY BROAD. IT COVERS ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO DELIVER A PROGRAM LIKE THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM. SO IN IN NOVEMBER, 22 CITY VOTERS APPROVED PROPOSITION A THE ROAD BOND, INCLUDING EIGHT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. AND THEN THE CITY CONTRACTED WITH KAY FREESE AND ASSOCIATES TO PROVIDE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE 2022 ROAD BOND. SOME OF THE 
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PRIOR COUNCIL ACTIONS AND. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS CHART, THE WORK AUTHORIZATIONS TYPICALLY HAVE GONE ON A YEARLY BASIS. WE TIGHTEN THAT UP OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS JUST BECAUSE THE WORK WAS RAMPING UP AS WE'VE GOTTEN PROJECTS THROUGH PSC, WHICH IS DESIGN PHASE, AS WE'VE GOTTEN THOSE PROJECTS THROUGH DESIGN AND GETTING THEM READY FOR CONSTRUCTION, THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES HAVE RAMPED UP SOME, SO WE'VE BEEN KEEPING THAT ON A SHORTER LEASH, DOING IT REALLY MORE ON A 6 TO 8 MONTH BASIS. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, IS TO ASK FOR THAT NEXT TRANCHE OF FUNDING FOR AUTHORIZATION. AND SO THIS AUTHORIZATION WOULD INCLUDE THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED UNDER THE G, E, C, INCLUDING OVERSIGHT OF THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE OVERSIGHT, CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT AS WELL. NOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION, AS YOU KNOW, ALSO INCLUDES ON SITE INSPECTION SERVICES FOR THE COLORS AND BB WEST PROJECT, UTILITY COORDINATION SERVICES, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION SERVICES AND APPRAISALS AND TITLE COMMITMENTS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT $2.5 MILLION TOTAL FEE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO WALK THROUGH SPECIFICS ON EXACTLY WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT SCOPE AND THE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RICK KLATT, WHO IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE GEC TEAM. RICK, CAN YOU GO BACK? OKAY, SO THIS RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION SERVICES, COULD YOU JUST GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF HOW THAT WORKS? YES, CERTAINLY. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE BY OUR SUB CONSULTANT, ATKINS. BASICALLY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, GET THE APPRAISALS IN AND THEN REACH OUT TO THE APPROPRIATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND GO THROUGH THE NEGOTIATION AND GO THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY PROCESS. SO THEY TAKE THE, THE INDIVIDUAL PARCEL ACQUISITIONS THROUGH THAT RIGHT AWAY, RIGHT AWAY PROCESS. SO THE CITY OF KYLE PAYS THE 563,000. AND FOR TO YOU GUYS, AND WE DON'T PAY THEM DIRECTLY AT ALL. ATKINS. NO YOU DO NOT. IT GOES THROUGH. IT GOES THROUGH YOU GUYS. IT'S ALL THIS IS ALL THROUGH US ALL THROUGH THE GC. SO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. 
          CERTAINLY. YEAH. ONCE AGAIN I'M RICK KLATT. YOU KNOW I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS SUPPLEMENTAL. I WANT TO GO THROUGH KIND OF OUR TEAM RIGHT NOW. I KNOW YOU'VE YOU ALL HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH TRY TO GO THROUGH IT SOMEWHAT QUICK THE DIFFERENT TEAM MEMBERS. SO WE'VE GOT KAY FREESE AND ASSOCIATES AS WELL AS LOCHNER. 
          I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE. LOCHNER ACQUIRED KAY FREEZE A WHILE BACK, BUT WE STILL OPERATE UNDER THE KAY FREEZE. FROM A CONTRACTUAL STANDPOINT, IS THE PROGRAM MANAGERS. AND THEN WE HAVE FRONTLINE ADVISORY GROUP THAT DOES OUR SCHEDULING AND COST OVERSIGHT. TERRACON IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL GEOTECHNICAL REVIEW FIRM. AND THEN ROOFLINE SUPPORTS US WITH COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS, AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT ROUNDABOUTS AND COMPLETE STREETS REVIEW AND THEN ATKINS REALS RIGHT OF WAY PLUS THE UTILITY COORDINATION SUPPORT. AND THEN FINALLY WE'VE GOT ROBERT KISTNER THAT'S PROVIDING CONSTRUCTION PHASE MATERIAL TESTING. SO ONCE WE GO TO CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS KIND OF SMALL, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. YOU SEE MYSELF UP THERE AT THE PROGRAM MANAGER. AND THEN WE'VE UNDER THAT, WE'VE GOT KIND OF OUR TEAM AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN NECESSARILY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO REVIEW THAT FURTHER, YOU CAN OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CERTAINLY ASK ME. KIND OF AN OVERALL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE. IT'S KIND OF A THREE, THREE DIFFERENT TIERED HERE. WE'VE GOT THE GSA BOND MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS MYSELF, PROGRAM MANAGER, AND THEN RUBY, WHO'S THE DEPUTY PROJECT MANAGER. AND THEN WE BASICALLY ALIGN WITH THE CITY BOND MANAGEMENT TEAM PRESENTLY CONSISTING OF MIKE TRIMBLE, DEPUTY TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND THEN ALSO LIU ZHANG. AND THEN I GUESS THE NEXT LEVEL UP WOULD BE THE EXECUTIVE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND THAT WOULD BE PEREZ FROM INTERIM CITY MANAGER STANDPOINT. AND THEN AMBER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE THOSE DIFFERENT BREAKDOWNS OF THE WORK AREAS HERE. THIS IS THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT. THIS IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST CHUNK OF THAT, THAT OVERALL $2.5 MILLION SUPPLEMENT. BUT SERVICES INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING BRIEFINGS WITH CITY PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND EXECUTIVE STEERING COMMITTEE, ATTENDING AND PREPARING BACKUP FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS PERTAINING TO THE 2022 BOND PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPERS OR STAKEHOLDERS, AS WELL AS CITY STAFF AND THEN AGENCY COORDINATION WITH TXDOT. 
          FOR INSTANCE, HAYS COUNTY ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, COORDINATION WITH 
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CITY DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN REVIEWING DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTAINING PROJECT SCOPES, COSTS AND SCHEDULES, AND THEN ALSO BOND COMMUNICATION AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH. SO ANOTHER AREA HERE IS PROVIDING SCHEMATIC OVERSIGHT REVIEW. WE'RE REALLY DOWN TO ONLY ONE PROJECT THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE I-35 KOHLER OVERPASS PROJECT IS IN THE SCHEMATIC, THE FINAL SCHEMATIC PHASE. OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WELL INTO SANDY, OBVIOUSLY, AND WELL INTO CONSTRUCTION WITH THESE PROJECTS. SO IT'S JUST A SMALL BIT OF SERVICES LEFT ON THAT TO PROVIDE SCHEMATIC OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU TALK, GO, GO BACK TO THE LAST PAGE. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND BOND COMMUNICATIONS. I THOUGHT THE CITY WAS USING A LOCAL COMPANY FOR THAT AS WELL. THAT WOULD BE RIGHT. FINE. AND THERE, THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE PRIOR TO THAT. BARTON TO BARTON'S COMPANY. 
          WHAT'S HIS COMPANY CALLED? YEAH. SO I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GAP STRATEGIES. GAP STRATEGIES. 
          YEAH. GAP STRATEGIES I THINK HELPED OUT ON SOME OF THE EARLY PHASES OF THE BOND PROGRAM. I KNOW THEY HELPED OUT WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE BOND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT PHASE AND THEN ALSO EARLY BOND COMMUNICATIONS AS WE TRANSITIONED INTO MORE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION, GETTING THROUGH DESIGN INTO CONSTRUCTION PHASE, WE TRANSITIONED INTO USING LIFELINE, AS WELL AS PARTNERING THAT WITH CITY COMMUNICATION. SO WAS THERE ANY OVERLAP OF HAVING BOTH GAP STRATEGIES AND LIFELINE? NOT REALLY. WE KIND OF WE KIND OF PHASED OUT THEIR SERVICES. WE WERE GETTING MORE INTO THE BULK OF THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT. AND THEN WE BROUGHT A RIFLING ON, I BELIEVE, KIND OF SECOND QUARTER 2025. OKAY. BECAUSE I REMEMBER DOING THE THEY DID A RIBBON CUTTING FOR MARKETPLACE THAT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO. SO DID WE TERMINATE CONTRACT WITH THEM THAT THAT WAS ON THE ON THE TAIL END OF OUR WORK WITH GAP STRATEGIES, THEY WERE HELPING OUT WITH SOME OF THOSE RIBBON CUTTING EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THAT PHASE. AND THEN AGAIN, AS WE WERE MOVING INTO MORE CONSTRUCTION PHASE PROJECTS AND GETTING MORE INTO IMPLEMENTATION. THAT'S RIGHT. FLYING SPECIALTY IS JUST TO DO MORE KIND OF PROJECT COMMUNICATIONS. AND SO WE, WE SWITCHED OVER TO LIFELINE LATER, I GUESS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER THAT, BUT THERE WAS NO OVERLAP. SO MY REPRESENTATIVES CAME OUT TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THEIR CONTRACT. THEY JUST CAME CAME TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING. SO WHO'S DOING THE WEBSITE? THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. FLYING NOW. RIGHT. FLYING. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S NOT UP TO DATE. WE JUST HAD A MEETING WITH SOMEBODY WHO HAD INCORRECT SCHEMATICS UP IN I MEAN, THEY WENT TO EMINENT DOMAIN. IT WAS INCORRECT. WE WERE IN A MEETING WITH THEM LAST WEEK. IT WAS INCORRECT. SO IF RYE FLYING IS IN CHARGE OF THAT, THEN THAT WEBSITE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. AND PEREZ, CAN YOU MAKE SURE I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT THERE WAS NO REDUNDANCY IN THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SPENDING THIS BOND MONEY IN THE MOST RESPONSIBLE WAY THAT WE CAN. CERTAINLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. SO THAT WAS THE SCHEMATIC. AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE OTHER PORTION HERE, PROVIDING OVERSIGHT PLAN REVIEW FOR THE PSC ON THE VARIOUS PROJECTS. CURRENT PROJECTS ARE THE KOHLER SETON I-35 CROSSING BEEBE ROAD EAST IS ONGOING THROUGH THE PSC STAGE, OLD STAGECOACH ROAD, OLD STAGECOACH ROAD, NORTH JACKSON, HAYES, AS WELL AS CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM. SO. AND WE DO THE SUBMITTALS AT THE VARIOUS INTERVAL 6090, 100% PHASES. NEXT THING IS CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT ACTUALLY PROVIDING THE BOTH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER IN THE IN THE OFFICE AS WELL AS THE FIELD INSPECTOR. FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE PROVIDING FIELD INSPECTION ON THE KOHLER BB PROJECT ON THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION. IT'S ACTUALLY CITY STAFF THAT ARE PROVIDING THE FIELD INSPECTION. SO SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE INCLUDE, THEIR CONSTRUCTION, PROJECT MANAGEMENT, FACILITATE PREPARATION OF FRONT END DOCUMENTS FOR EACH OF THE PROJECTS, FACILITATING THE PRE-BID MEETINGS DURING THE BID PHASE. COORDINATION PROCUREMENT IS NEEDED. MATERIALS TESTING SERVICES. I MENTIONED ROBERT KISTNER AS THE MATERIAL SERVICES PROVIDER TESTING PROVIDER. REVIEW RESPONSES RELATED TO CONTRACTOR SUBMITTALS, REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION AND CHANGE ORDERS, AND ALSO FACILITATE MEETINGS WITH BOTH THE CITY, THE DESIGN CONSULTANTS, AS WELL AS THE CONTRACTORS. PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES ON SITE, FULL TIME INSPECTION. I MENTIONED THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THE ON SITE INSPECTION FOR THE PROJECT, SO SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE INCLUDE THERE IS SUPERVISING THE WORK BEING COMPLETED BY THE CONTRACTOR, WHERE THEY'RE ON A DAILY BASIS FOR FULL DAYS EACH DAY, MATERIALS INSPECTION AND TESTING COORDINATION, CREATING A DAILY CONSTRUCTION LOG, 
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QUANTITY TRACKING AS WELL AS CONTRACTORS PAY REQUESTS, REVIEW AND APPROVAL. UTILITY COORDINATION. WE PROVIDE THAT AS WELL. SERVICES INCLUDE DESIGN CONSULTANT SUPPORT AS NEEDED FOR NEW UTILITY PERMIT REQUESTS, REVIEWING UTILITY RELOCATION PLANS, REVIEWING DRAFT UTILITY AGREEMENTS, AND THEN REVIEW OF JOINT BID UTILITY DESIGNS, AS WELL AS UTILITY ADJUSTMENT, COORDINATION AND OVERSIGHT PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN ALSO UTILITY RELOCATION COST ESTIMATES. RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS SERVICES HERE IS, YOU KNOW, PERFORM PERFORM COMPLIANCE REVIEW OF THE SURVEYS THAT WE RECEIVE PRIOR TO THE, THE APPRAISALS BEING DONE IN THE ACTUAL ACQUISITION PROCESS. IT'S KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF THE ACQUISITION PROCESS, COORDINATION, COORDINATING TITLE EXAMINATIONS WITH TITLE COMPANIES, PREPARING OWNER CONTRACT LIST AND MAINTAINING A PROPERTY OWNER CONTRACTS, CONTACTS REPORT, COORDINATION WITH THE APPRAISERS IN THE APPRAISAL PREPARATION IN THE PREPARATION OF APPRAISAL REPORTS, AS WELL AS PREPARING OFFER LETTER PACKAGES AND PRESENTING OFFERS TO THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN PROVIDING RELOCATION ASSISTANCE WHERE NEEDED AND ADVISORY SERVICES TO DISPLACED OWNERS AND TENANTS THAT MAY REQUIRE RESIDENTIAL, BUSINESS OR PERSONAL PROPERTY RELOCATIONS. WE MAINTAIN RIGHT AWAY STATUS REPORTS AND PARCEL ACQUISITION EXHIBITS, AND THEN FINALLY PREPARE FOR AND ATTEND MEETINGS WITH THE GC TEAM, CITY STAFF AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          APPRAISAL TITLE COMMITMENTS. THIS IS A COST THAT WE WE PAY FOR THE ACTUAL TITLE COMMITMENTS OUT OF THE ROAD BOND. WE RECEIVED THOSE. THOSE. WE RECEIVED THOSE INVOICES. AND THEN WE. WE SUBMIT THAT AS PART OF OUR OUR OVERALL BOND PROGRAM. SO. SOME 2026 MILESTONES. SO WE'VE GOT SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE NEARING 100% DESIGN. WE'LL START WITH THE DESIGN, BUT WE'LL GO TO THE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE END HERE, WHICH IS THE LARGEST ACHIEVEMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING 100% DESIGN. WE'VE GOT CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PROJECT. WE'VE GOT THE KOHLER STREET 935 CROSSING, AS WELL AS THE EAST CONSTRUCTION BIDDING THAT IS GOING TO BEGIN IN 2026 INCLUDES BUNTON CREEK, OLD STAGECOACH ROAD, OLD STAGECOACH ROAD NORTH, AS WELL AS THE CARL KYLE PARKWAY, LEEMAN ROAD EXTENSION AND THEN CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, WE'VE GOT THE KOHLER, SISSETON, BB WEST, WINDY HILL AND AND ALSO CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM PROJECT. AND THIS IS JUST SORT OF A GEEK SPENDING PROJECTION. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE WE'VE PRETTY MUCH GOTTEN TO THE END OF THE PEAK HERE. AND AFTER THIS, THIS SIX MONTH PERIOD, WE'LL BE ON THE DOWNWARD TREND AS FAR AS THE OUR EXPENDITURES. AND THEN GEC SERVICES, IT'S A TIME AND MATERIALS CONTRACT. THIS. MIKE MENTIONED WORK AUTHORIZATION SUPPLEMENTS ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD. CONSIDERATION SPANNING A SIX MONTH TIME SPAN. AND THEN THE SCOPE IS REFINED FOR ANTICIPATED SERVICES FOR THE ANTICIPATED TIME FRAME. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO MIKE. THANKS, RICK. YEAH. SO AGAIN, RICK'S GONE OVER, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, THE SPECIFIC SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED UNDER THIS WORK AUTHORIZATION, THE CONTRACT, AGAIN, WITH THIS REQUESTED FUNDING, THIS IS A TWO $2,549,903.06, WHICH WOULD BRING THE TOTAL AMOUNT TO $15,325,094.98. THE ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR GEC THAT WAS ANTICIPATED WITH THE 22 ROAD BOND WAS $11,321,713. I WILL SAY FOR ALL THE SERVICES BEING PROVIDED, IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO GET THESE PROJECTS OUT. I KNOW THIS IS BEYOND WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR IN THE BOND RIGHT NOW, AND JUST FROM INDUSTRY STANDARDS. TYPICALLY YOU LOOK AT ABOUT 5 TO 10% FOR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT COSTS, ESPECIALLY WITH RIGHT OF WAY AND UTILITIES AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES. 
          TYPICALLY YOU'RE LOOKING IN THAT RANGE. I ANTICIPATE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE ABOUT 15 TO 18 MILLION OR 18 TO $20 MILLION FOR FULL GC SERVICES TO FINISH THIS PROGRAM OUT. IF WE CAN DELIVER THIS PROGRAM BY 2029, THAT WOULD GET YOU TO ABOUT 6% OF COST. SO SO AGAIN, 
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A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT WAS INITIALLY BUDGETED. WE ARE GENERALLY WITHIN RANGE WITHIN INDUSTRY STANDARDS OF TYPICALLY WHAT YOU WOULD PAY FOR. ALSO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WITH THESE SERVICES IS LIKE ANY SPECIAL REQUEST TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, DESIGN OF SOMETHING OR REDESIGN. ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS. THERE'S BEEN SOME REALIGNMENTS OF SOME PROJECTS. WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT THAT AT OUR JULY 7TH UPDATE ABOUT OPTIONS TO KEEP SOME UTILITIES OVERHEAD, SOME OTHER MODIFICATIONS. ALL THOSE THINGS OBVIOUSLY COST MONEY. AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS BEING FACTORED IN AS WELL. SO ALL THOSE REQUESTS WE'VE GOTTEN OVER THE YEARS AS WELL, ALSO FACTOR IN KIND OF OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF JUST PUTTING YOUR HEAD DOWN AND GETTING THE DESIGN WORK DONE AND GETTING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK DONE. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN THOSE, IN THOSE COSTS AS WELL. AND JUST, JUST TO KIND OF REINFORCE THAT THESE ARE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THAT INITIAL SCOPE THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED WHEN THAT $11 MILLION WAS WAS PUT TOGETHER. THAT'S ABOUT 3.7% OF THE TOTAL COST THAT WAS INITIALLY ANTICIPATED. SO IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS COUNCIL APPROVAL OF SUPPLEMENTAL WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER TWO FOR THE AMOUNT LISTED. AND THEN THE OPTION IS TO APPROVE THE WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER TWO IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,549,903.06, OR OPTION TWO IS TO NOT APPROVE AND STAFF RECOMMENDS OPTION ONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO BREAK OUT INTO EXECUTIVE, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I CAN EITHER ASK IT HERE OR I CAN ASK IT THERE. IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ME, BUT PROBABLY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ROAD BOND AND CONTRACTORS THAT ARE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING CITY BUSINESS WITH THE CITY. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT CONVERSATION IN THE BACK IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. OKAY, SO WE HAVE TEN MINUTES. I JUST HAVE I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SURE. SO IF YOU KIND OF READ OUT THE INFORMATION YOU NORMALLY READ AND REFERENCE 
          [X) Executive Session]
AGENDA ITEM 20, WE'D GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER 5.5, 1.071551.071. OKAY. CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEM 20 PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION N. EXECUTIVE. ACTION IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE TAKEN ON THE OPEN SESSION ITEM. AGENDA ITEM. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD WITH THE QUESTIONS. I WILL SAY. AS A REMINDER, WE'RE 20 MILLION OR $40 MILLION SHORT ON THE ROAD BOND CURRENTLY. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, PER MIKE TRIMBLE'S. I'M GOING TO TAKE HIS LOW END OF THIS COSTING UP TO $18 MILLION. THAT'LL MAKE US EVEN MORE SHORT TO THE TUNE OF 6.6 MILLION. SO WE JUST GOT TO BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. GOT COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          DOES THIS INCLUDE THE COST OF LOSING YOU? YES. THAT'S PUNISHMENT. I'M LIKE, BECAUSE I MEAN, BUT I'M BUT I'M SERIOUS IN THAT I KNOW THAT YOU PLAY A LARGE ROLE IN LIKE THE OVERALL PROJECT MANAGEMENT PART OF THIS. SO I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE POSSIBLE FUNCTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO POSSIBLY RECEIVE FROM OUTSIDE SUPPORT. I THINK YOU HAVE SOME VERY CAPABLE FOLKS INTERNALLY. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'LL CALL OUT LIU ZHENG, WHO IS DEPUTY PROGRAM MANAGER ON MY SIDE, AND SHE'S BEEN WITH ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, AND SHE IS VERY CAPABLE AND KNOWS THAT TEAM WELL, AND I THINK SHE CAN HELP CARRY IT ON. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW VERY WELL. 
          AND IF YOU'VE GOT FOLKS LIKE AMBER THAT ARE HELPING OUT AS WELL, YOU'VE GOT A TEAM OF FOLKS INTERNALLY THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE G, E, C, AND I THINK TOGETHER, THAT'S HOW YOU GET THESE THINGS DONE. YOU HAVE GOOD, GOOD CAPACITY IN-HOUSE TO WORK WITH YOUR EXTERNAL CONSULTANT TEAM TO GET IT DONE. OKAY. I THINK THAT HELPS CALM MY FEARS A LITTLE BIT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE WAS POTENTIALLY ANYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD, WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST ADD IT UP FRONT VERSUS HAVING TO COME BACK AND MAKE AMENDMENTS LATER. YEAH, FROM MY, FROM MY, MY TAKE, I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, AS A MATTER OF FACT, JUST TO YOUR TO YOUR QUESTION OR YOUR POINT, MAYOR, I'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY TALKED TO THE GC ABOUT RAMPING DOWN THAT BURN RATE, THAT SPEND RATE TO, TO TRY TO GET TO HALF BY THE END OF THE YEAR AGAIN. SO WE SHOW THAT CURVE. WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO HIT THAT CURVE ON THE DOWN SLOPE AS WE'RE GETTING THESE PROJECTS OUT TO CONSTRUCTION. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          MOTIONS. DO I NEED TO READ THE ENTIRE THING. YES. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUPPLEMENTAL WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER TWO TO WORK. AUTHORIZATION W A NUMBER TWO TO K FRIESEN ASSOCIATES, LLC IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,549,903.06 FOR CONTINUED 
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PROGRAM MANAGEMENT SERVICES AS PART OF THE 22 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM, FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT VALUE OF $15,325,094.98. WITH THE STIPULATION THAT WE ARE BROUGHT BACK INFORMATION REGARDING SUBCONSULTANTS OF K FREEZE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER COMBS A SECOND BY MYSELF. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. ALMOST DONE. GUYS CARRY OVER FROM JUNE 2ND. THANK YOU. 
          [21) (Carryover from 6/2/2026) Discuss updating our ten peer cities.]
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AGENDA ITEM 21 DISCUSSION UPDATING OUR TEN PEER CITIES. I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. I GUESS ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS STAFF BRING BACK SOME. 
          WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR CURRENT PEER CITIES. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO? AND JUST IN A GENERAL WAY, YEAH, WE CAN NAME THEM. IT'S BASICALLY THE I-35 CORRIDOR, GEORGETOWN, ROUND ROCK, CEDAR PARK, PFLUGERVILLE, LEANDER, AUSTIN, THEN BUDA, THEN SAN MARCOS, NEW BRAUNFELS, AND THEN SAN ANTONIO. YEAH, YEAH. GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE. OKAY. SO WITH THAT SAID, I CAN AGREE ON SOME OF THOSE AND I CAN RESPECT SOME OF THOSE. 
          SOME OF THEM. MY THEORY IS JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, NOBODY'S DRIVING FROM LEANDER TO KYLE, RIGHT. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY THE SAME. AND I DON'T TO AN EXTENT, MAYBE AUSTIN MAYBE. I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S MORE PEOPLE DRIVING FROM KYLE TO THERE, BUT IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT CITY. 
          IT'S A DIFFERENT MENTALITY. IT'S A DIFFERENT INCOME. IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF LIVING. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE AUSTIN FC. WE DON'T HAVE MAJOR COLLEGES, YOU KNOW. SO I WOULD LIKE MY GOAL WAS TO BRING THIS UP SO WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT ARE TEN REALISTIC PEER CITIES THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO WHENEVER WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER PLACES. SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS IF WE WANT TO, IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY, I'D LIKE STAFF TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF DIGGING AND INVESTIGATION AND BRING THEIR IDEAS BACK TO US AND REASONS WHY THEY FEEL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY KEEP THEM THE SAME, I DON'T KNOW, BUT MAYBE THEY UPDATE THEM AND THEY LET US KNOW WHY. I JUST, I WOULD LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY TO HAVE A FAIR COMPARISON TO OTHER CITIES. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA, IS THERE ANY SORT OF LIKE NATIONAL PLANNING ASSOCIATION THAT HAS A FRAMEWORK ON HOW TO DETERMINE ESTABLISH THESE THINGS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE IS LIKE SOME GUIDELINES ON HOW SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS THESE. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT LIKE AS OUR FRAMEWORK. SURE. I'M UNAWARE, BUT WE COULD PUT MAKE THAT AS PART OF OUR RESEARCH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21 SECOND. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF, A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I, I OPPOSE. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. NEXT 
          [22) (Carryover from 6/2/2026) Consider directing the City Manager to evaluate and bring back options for incorporating certified veteran-owned and service-disabled veteran-owned business participation into the City’s best-value procurement and contracting processes, implementation considerations, and outreach strategies.]
AGENDA ITEM 22. ALSO CARRY OVER. CONSIDER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO EVALUATE AND BRING BACK OPTIONS FOR INCORPORATING CERTIFIED, VETERAN OWNED AND SERVICE DISABLED VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS PARTICIPATION INTO THE CITY'S BEST VALUE PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACTING PROCESSES. 
          IMPLEMENTATION CONSIDERATIONS AND OUTREACH STRATEGIES. ITEM PRESENTERS CLAUDIA ZAPATA AND MARK MCKINNEY, COUNCIL MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT. SO I WILL ALSO MAKE THIS HOPEFULLY PRETTY PAINLESS. 
          SO BASICALLY WE DO A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BUSINESS WITH PRIVATE VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS. AND RIGHT NOW WHEN EVALUATING OUR BIDS, VETERAN OWNED STATUS IS NOT AN EXPLICIT SCORE CRITERION LISTED IN OUR PROCUREMENT MANUAL. THIS ITEM ASKS THE CITY MANAGER TO EVALUATE OPTIONS FOR CHANGING THAT TO GIVE CERTIFIED, VETERAN OWNED AND SERVICE DISABLED, VETERAN OWNED BUSINESSES MEANINGFUL WEIGHT IN THE BEST VALUE EVALUATION PROCESS FOR CITY CONTRACTS. THEY MAKE UP A SIGNIFICANT SHARE OF OUR POPULATION IN COMPARISON TO NEIGHBORING CITIES AND SURROUNDING HAYS COUNTY, AND I FEEL THAT IT WOULD ALSO HELP, I THINK, WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS WHO QUESTION, LIKE HOW IT IS THAT WE CHOOSE VENDORS AND WHAT NOT. AND SO ALL THIS DOES IS IT ASKS THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK OPTIONS AND DIFFERENT COMPARISONS FOR IMPLEMENTATIONS THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE. FOR EXAMPLE, SOME CITIES WILL HAVE IT AS LIKE A, WELL, THAT'LL BE 
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OUR TIEBREAKER. LIKE IF IT'S A IF WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A TIE BETWEEN TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CHOOSE, THEN IF THEY'RE A VETERAN OWNED OR SERVICED, I CAN'T EVEN THINK RIGHT NOW. SERVICE DISABLED, VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS, THEN THEY'LL USE THAT MARGIN AS LIKE THE TIEBREAKER. AND SO I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT VETERANS IN OUR PRACTICES AS A CITY IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANT TO PUSH US TO TRY TO DO. AND THEN AS A NOTE, OUR PROCUREMENT MANUAL WAS, AND THIS MAY HAVE CHANGED INTERNALLY, BUT AS FAR AS THE EXTERNAL FACING PROCUREMENT MANUAL, WHICH WAS REVISED SEPTEMBER 2025, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT UP TO DATE WITH STATE LAW THAT WAS CHANGED WITH THE COMPTROLLER'S EDITIONS. SO IF WE COULD JUST GET THAT UPDATED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. BUT YEAH, SO THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A STRONGER, LOCALLY GROUNDED VETERAN PREFERENCE CRITERION WITHIN OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS. COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, IT'S YOUR ITEM. YES. WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA BROUGHT THIS TO ME, I WAS INCREDIBLY EXCITED TO GET ON BOARD. THIS IS THIS IS HER BABY. SHE SHE BROUGHT IT UP. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT WHO WE'RE GOING TO PARTNER WITH AS FAR AS ACTIVITIES WITH THE CITY AND, AND WHO WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HIRE TO AS CONTRACTORS FOR THINGS. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT SCORING OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUR VETERAN COMMUNITY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GET A LITTLE RECOGNITION AND, YOU KNOW, GET A LITTLE EXTRA LEG UP. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO LISTEN FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON HELPING FIGURE OUT HOW EXACTLY IT IS THAT WE WANT TO APPROACH THIS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. DO WE INCLUDE WOMEN OWNED BUSINESS AS A PREFERENCE OR RATING? TO THE EXTENT ALLOWED AND REQUIRED BY TEXAS LAW? WE DO CHECK THE HUB LIST FOR CERTAIN PROCUREMENTS, ANYTHING BETWEEN $3,000 AND THE $100,000 LIMIT. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES TO HOW HUBS ARE DEFINED UNDER STATE LAW, AND THAT IS A CONVERSATION WE CAN HAVE. YEAH. IN DECEMBER 2025, YOU CAN NO LONGER HAVE MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES AS LIKE A COVERED CATEGORY UNDER HUB. SO THE HUB LIST IS CREATED BY THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED THE HUB LIST. YEAH, THEY COMPLETELY DID AWAY WITH IT. SO NOW IT'S JUST CALLED HUB. SO SPECIFICALLY FOR VETERANS, SPECIFICALLY FOR. BUT NO, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PREFERENCES FOR WOMEN OR MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES BEYOND WHAT IS SUPPOSEDLY LISTED IN STATE LAW. BUT THIS, AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS EXPLAINED, THIS IS KIND OF A BEST VALUE PREFERENCE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO FOR BEST VALUES WHEN WE'RE DOING REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS, AS OPPOSED TO LOW BID PROCUREMENTS. AND SO THE THIS CAN OPEN A CONVERSATION ON MULTITUDE OF CHANGES WE WANT TO MAKE, STARTING WITH THE VETERAN. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION AT ALL TO THE VETERANS BUSINESS. I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WOMEN GET VERY FEW OF OUR CONTRACTS. THAT'S VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF WOMEN THAT ARE IN ANY OF THE CONTRACTS THAT I'VE SEEN. IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, I WOULD LOVE THAT, OBVIOUSLY. 
          BUT IT WAS JUST UNDER MY IMPRESSION THAT STATE LAW NOW PROHIBITS A GOOD AMOUNT OF THAT. 
          YEAH, WE CAN LOOK INTO WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. IT'S SIMILAR WITH LOCAL PREFERENCE. THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT CAN AND CANNOT HAVE A PREFERENCE THAT THE BUSINESS BE WITHIN THE CITY. AND SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT CAN BE LOOKED INTO. AND DIFFERENT CITIES DO THOSE POLICIES DIFFERENT WAYS. OKAY. I JUST LOVE HOW THE STATE TELLS US WE CAN'T DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE CAN ALWAYS GO TO THE CAPITOL AND TRY TO CHANGE THEIR MIND. 
          THAT'S MY THAT'S MY THEORY. YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE ADDRESSING AN ISSUE. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW MANY VETERAN OWNED BUSINESSES HAVE APPLIED, HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND HOW IF WE'VE SAID NO TO THEM OR HOW THEY'VE DO, DO WE TRACK THAT CURRENTLY? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, HOLLY. I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT. MAYOR, WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY. OKAY. SO THEN THAT INFORMATION IS NOT A REQUIREMENT IN OUR POLICY. OKAY. ONCE WE UPDATE IT, WE'LL START TRACKING THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL GO AHEAD. YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22. SECOND. I WAS WAITING FOR MCKINNEY, BUT. OH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA AND A SECOND BY MYSELF. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION 
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PASSES, SIX ZERO, AND WE'RE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.