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AUGUST THE 22ND.[I. Call Meeting to Order]
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MITCHELL PEER REZO FLORES, KALE HERE, BRADSHAW PARSLEY HERE.
WE HAVE A QUORUM NEXT STEP, CITIZEN
[II. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
COMMENTS PERIOD.AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO PLEASE DO.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES IN THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FELT AS CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY, MR. BASS, IF YOU WANT.
UH, FIRST UP, UH, MARTA LIONS FIRST ON THE ITEM.
NUMBER THREE, ONE, I DID VIRTUALLY LISTEN TO THE LADY THAT WAS HEADING THE COMMITTEE, AND I THINK SHE DID A GREAT JOB.
AND I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I, I COME FROM THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND WE'LL USE, DO WE WANT IT MORE BUCKS? WE USED TO DO A SELF-ASSESSMENT WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE HAD OUR PEERS, YOU KNOW, ASSESS EACH OTHER.
AND, AND I JUST WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE COULD GET DONE AND THE PUBLIC, SEE HOW, NOT JUST HOW YOU FEEL YOU PERFORM, BUT HOW YOUR PEERS THINK YOU'RE PERFORM.
CAUSE SOMETIMES I HAVE, I DON'T COME VERY OFTEN, BUT A LOT OF TIMES I SEE A LOT OF LIKE, YOU GUYS DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH.
AND THEN SOME OF YOU HAVE SAID TO OTHERS, THIS IS JUST A WASTE OF TIME.
A CITIZEN NEVER WANTS TO HEAR THAT FOR YOU TO SAY IT'S MIDNIGHT.
I WORKED FOR MOTOROLA 25 YEARS AND I WORKED 70, 80 HOURS A WEEK.
THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
THE NEXT ONE, IT'S JUST A COMMENT.
I'M FROM THE WEST SIDE, 66 YEARS.
AND I'M HERE THIS ONE ON SPEAKING FOR MY BROTHER WHO DIED IN MARCH, ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO.
HE WAS GIVEN PERMISSION TO PUT A MOBILE HOME, UH, RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO STAGE COACH.
AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? THE CITY HAPPY DO I HAVE TO PAY YOU? I THINK $850 TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE MOBILE HOME.
AND EVERY YEAR HE WOULD SAY, I STILL DON'T HAVE MY SIDEWALK.
AND HE WOULD SAY, SISTER, YOU MAKE SURE IF I DIED BEFORE MY SIDEWALK, YOU GET THAT SIDEWALK HERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND ON THE WEST SIDE I HEAR ABOUT PLUM.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WEST SIDE IS, LOOKS PRETTY S WORD I TAKE T Y.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LOOK AT THE WEST SIDE AND, AND, AND HAVE A SORE EYE FOR IT.
BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO.
YOU GUYS NEED TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION AND I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS, BUT NOBODY'S EVER COME AROUND AND IF MY HEALTH WAS WHITE AND MY HEALTH WAS OKAY, I KNOW I COULD SIT UP THERE.
TOBY'S I'M SORRY, MS. CHOCOLATE.
YOU WANT TO GO NEXT?
I LIVED ON 700 CENTER STREET AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE DID A GREAT JOB.
THEY HAD LITTLE TIME, LITTLE INFORMATION, BUT WHAT, WITH THE TIME THAT THEY HAD TO BRING IT UP TO AT THIS POINT, THEY, THEY REQUIRED MORE TIME, I THINK.
AND I THINK THAT THEY WOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY DID, THEY FINALLY CAME AROUND TO.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT THEY, WHAT THEY WERE PRETTY FAIR AS CONSIDERING THE, HOW MUCH Y'ALL WORK.
AND THEY WERE ALSO CONSIDERATE OF THE CITIZENS, THE TAXPAYERS.
AND I THINK THAT I AGREE WITH WHAT THEY WENT BECAUSE THEY WANT MORE TRANSPARENCY.
THEY WANT TO SEE MORE DOCUMENTATION.
WHO'S SPENDING MORE TIME WORKING.
WHO'S DOING MORE TRAVELING TO COME TO DIFFERENT THINGS WHERE MAYBE SOME ARE NOT DOING
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AT ALL IN ANY TIME.AT LEAST IN MY BEHALF THAT I TRY TO COME TO THE MEETINGS.
I CAN SEE THAT ALL OF YOUR WORKING, BUT THEN THERE'S TIMES THAT SOME DON'T VOLUNTEER TO BE ON TASKFORCE.
AND I DON'T SEE WHY OTHER PEOPLE NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY DO OTHER OTHER TIMES, BUT AT LEAST PAY THE ONES THAT AREN'T WORKING.
AND I, BUT THAT'S MY FEELING THAT THEY DID A GOOD JOB.
JUST NOT HAVING THE DATA THAT THEY NEEDED TO TO SEE HOW MUCH TIME YOU SPENT, WHETHER IT'S GOING AND COMING FROM, FROM HOME TO JOBS FROM AUSTIN OR WHAT.
AND I COMPLIMENT MR. TOBY IS FOR WORKING AT NIGHT AND THEN COMING TO THE MEETINGS AND ALSO ONTO YOU'RE SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
MA'AM ABOUT THE TWO, UH, THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS.
I'M NOT, I WASN'T FOR THE ROUNDABOUTS.
I SEE ALL THE SEMI TRUCKS GO IN AND I COULD NOT SEE HOW THEY WERE GOING TO GO IN THE ROUNDABOUT ON THE ONE 50 AND THAT'S A DRIVE.
I JUST COULDN'T SEE HOW THE FIRE TRUCKS WOULD BE GOING AROUND THERE.
AND SO I'M GLAD THAT THIS HOPEFULLY THAT Y'ALL, DON'T AGREE ON IT.
ALL RIGHT, MR. BSU ON A COM UH,
I AM A, UH, PROPERTY OWNER HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
LIKE THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
ALL THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, TO VISIT WITH YOU ON IS I HEAR A LOT ABOUT ALL OF THE MEETINGS THAT YOU ALL ARE ATTENDING.
AND I ASKED MYSELF AND I TOOK TIME TO LOOK AT THE CHARTER, AND IF I AM TOTALLY WRONG, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU ARE TO ATTEND REGULAR MEETINGS, BUDGET MEETINGS, AND WHATEVER CALL MEETINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED FROM THIS DIOCESE.
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICIES IN PLACE ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
NOW, I, I QUESTION THE NECESSITY FOR COUNCIL, MEN, AND WOMEN TO ATTEND, UH, MEETINGS WITH THE DEVELOPERS.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU, THE CITY OF KYLE HAS HEART, VERY CAPABLE PEOPLE TO BE DIRECTORS AND TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE TASKS.
SO THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, TO TELL YOU THAT, THAT TO LOOK AT YOURSELVES AND SAY, DO I REALLY NEED TO ATTEND THIS MEETING? DO I REALLY NEED TO COME BACK AND FORTH FROM AUSTIN? AND DO ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT I'M DOING IS THAT IN YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, MAYBE NOT.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER TOP IS IN TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THE GAS GOING BACK AND FORTH.
AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BEING CHARGED TO THE CITY, I THINK REFLECT ON YOURSELF, THIS POSITION AS A COUNCILMAN IS A PUBLIC SERVANT.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO VISIT ON NOW.
SECONDLY, I THINK I HAD SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I'LL WAIT FOR THAT ITEM.
I ALSO HAVE ANGELINA G TOBY TOBY'S OKAY.
YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME NUMBER, SAME ADDRESS.
SO, UM, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO ME TO SPEAK ON? BECAUSE I DID TURN INTO JUST THE OTHER ONE.
IF YOU AREN'T, I GUESS I CAN SPEAK ON THE COMPENSATION.
FIRST OF ALL, I RECKON I COME IN THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS APPOINTED BY ALL OF YOU.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT EACH ONE OF YOUR TRUST, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU APPOINTED TO SIT IN THAT COMMITTEE AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY HAD VERY LIMITED INFORMATION ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH WHAT YOU WERE ASKING OF THEM, BUT I COMMEND THEM FOR WHAT THE WORK THAT THEY DID, AND TO BE ABLE TO GO GET GATHERED DATA FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES IN OUR AREA, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE LOOKING AT IT FAIRLY, THAT THAT'S, THAT IS WITHIN THEIR SCOPE TO DO THAT.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE A TENDENCY OF COMPARING DATA FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES SO THAT WE CAN SET FORTH WHAT WE WANT TO PASS, HAVE PASSED.
WE GATHERING INFORMATION, GATHERING DATA IS FINE.
THAT'S THE ONE THING I WAS EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED AS SOME OF YOU WERE DISAPPOINTED ON THE TREATMENT THAT I BELIEVE IN THAT THEY'VE GOT, I FELT THAT PERHAPS SOME OF YOU DID NOT AGREE WITH THE AMOUNT THAT THEY CAME AS A RECOMMENDATION AND THAT FOR THE LONGEST TIME, THEY STOOD HERE AND TRY TO DEFEND WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM.
AND I THINK THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR, AND
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I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS A LACK OF RESPECT.AND QUITE FRANKLY, AS I SAT HERE AND I DON'T COME OFTEN, I WAS EMBARRASSED TOO, THAT THEY WERE ALMOST CHASTISED FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
AND THAT'S, THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
THAT'S ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENT FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALRIGHT, MR. TREVOR ASHLEY, HEY EVERYBODY, PASTOR TREVOR ACTUALLY OF RADICAL CHURCH HERE IN KYLE, TEXAS.
I WASN'T PLANNING ON COMING TO SPEAK, BUT I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW MAYOR MITCHELL AND COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY A LITTLE BIT OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
UH, I PREACHED A MESSAGE ON SUNDAY ABOUT OPPOSITION AND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE IN LEADERSHIP.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE EVERYBODY THAT'S ON YOUR SIDE, RIGHT? YOU'RE YOU KNOW, THAT BEING IN LEADERSHIP, ESPECIALLY BEING ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO AGREE WITH EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE.
UH, AND IT'S HARD, BUT WE PRESS FORWARD.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR IS WE'RE WORKING TOWARD A BETTER KYLE.
MY GRANDPARENTS IN 2000, MY PARENTS, I WAS A SOPHOMORE IN HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, AND I FELT THAT GOD TOLD ME TO COME BACK IN 2019 AND PLANT A CHURCH.
WE PLANTED IN 2020, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID, UH, NEGLEY ELEMENTARY.
NOW WE'RE IN WALLACE AND NOW BUILDING AND A WAREHOUSE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOSPITAL.
SO I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND SAY, THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS.
UH, AND YOU HAVE A PASTOR IN A CHURCH IT'S PRAYING FOR YOU GUYS AND FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THAT YOU WOULD HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP.
AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR YOU GUYS WORKING TOWARD A BETTER CITY IN, UH, APPRECIATE YOU MAYOR MITCHELL AND FRIENDSHIP AND YOUR LEADERSHIP, MAN.
THAT'S ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE.
CITIZEN COMMENTS IS NOW CLOSED.
[1. Conduct a public hearing, per the city charter, to receive feedback from the community regarding council compensation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING PART OF THE CITY CHARTER TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY REGARDING COUNCIL COMPENSATION.THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING, ONE OF TWO, UH, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD, I THINK FROM EVERYBODY WHO WANTED TO SPEAK, BUT, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY IS AVAILABLE IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND, UH, SAY IT AGAIN, OR IF, IS, YOU KNOW, ADD SOMETHING NEW.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? I
ONCE AGAIN, YOU SELECTED THEM.
AND I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS MADE THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SERVE AS CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE WORK AND ALL OF THE, AND NOT BEING COMPENSATED.
AND, UM, BUT I BELIEVE HE, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVANT DUTY OR COMMITTEE OR OBLIGATION THAT YOU CHOSE, YOU CHOSE TO BE IN THIS POSITION.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
[2. Presentation and overview of the 2022 Road Bond Election by the city's consultants, Jeff Barton, (Dandy Planning), and Joe Cantalupo, (K. Friese + Associates). ~ Jerry Hendrix, Acting City Manager]
ITEM NUMBER TWO, PRESENTATION AND OVERVIEW OF THE 2022 ROAD BOND ELECTION BY THE CITY'S CONSULTANTS.JEFF BARTON DANDY PLANNING AND JOE
WE'RE JUST GOING TO HOOK UP TO YOUR SYSTEM.
SO THE RECORD I'M JEFF BARTON WITH GAP STRATEGIES, AND WE'LL BE MAKING A SHORT PRESENTATION.
I THINK IT WAS READY A MOMENT AGO, BUT WE SEEM TO HAVE LOST CONNECTION.
SO JUST ONE MONTH, WELL, WHILE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE TECHNICAL ASPECT, UH, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST SAY, CONGRATULATIONS THIS EVENING ON THE HARD WORK THAT'S GONE, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR BY YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO PREPARE FOR THE DECISIONS THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE TONIGHT, WHICH IS DECIDE WHETHER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BOND PACKAGE FOR 2022 ADDRESSING TRANSPORTATION.
AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT IS JUST SET THAT TABLE FOR YOU, GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON WHERE YOU'VE BEEN, HOW YOU GOT HERE, AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU ALL KNOW MANY OF THAT.
YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THIS NOW, UH, FOR, OR, AND, AND COUNCIL WORKSHOPS FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS.
YOU STARTED ON THIS MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, BUT THERE ARE ALSO A LOT PEOPLE TUNING IN TONIGHT.
YOU MAY BE JUST LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE BOND PACKAGE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO REFRESH YOU ALL.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, REACH OUT
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TO CITIZENS WHO MAY BE WATCHING SO THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT'S GONE ON.SO, UH, AS WE MENTIONED, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHO WE ARE AND THIS STORY THAT GETS US TO THE BOND PACKAGE, WHERE YOU'VE BEEN AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
YOU WILL ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UH, HIRED US TO COME ON TO HELP WITH PUBLIC INFORMATION AND SOME PLANNING AND ON THE EDUCATION SIDE, UH, FOR THE BOND PACKAGE AND LATER BROUGHT ON K FREES AND ASSOCIATES.
SO YOU'LL HEAR FROM US TONIGHT, THEN FROM JOE, KEN LUPO, AS WELL AS FROM YOUR BOND COUNCIL AND FINANCIAL ADVISORS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE SO FAR AND WHY, AGAIN, JUST TO RECAP, IN THE SPRING OF 2021, BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS AND COUNCIL LEADERSHIP, YOU ALL BEGAN TALKING IN EARNEST ABOUT A TRANSPORTATION BOND.
YOU'D HAD A NUMBER OF CITIZEN SURVEYS OVER THE YEARS THAT HIGHLIGHTED CITIZENS DESIRE FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS.
THE COUNCIL GOT VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT AND BEGAN MOVING TOWARDS A BOND THROUGH COMPETITIVE PROPOSALS.
YOU BEGAN BUILDING A CONSULTANT TEAM AND WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF.
THEN IN THE SUMMER OF 2021, UH, SHORTLY BEFORE YOU WERE TO CALL A BOND, YOU ALL MADE THE DECISION TO POSTPONE SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES MORE TIME TO GATHER THE KIND OF INFORMATION SOME OF YOU TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, WHERE YOU HAD GOOD FINANCIAL DATA, GOOD ENGINEERING DATA TO MAKE CONCRETE DECISIONS.
AND YOU DECIDED TO PUT OFF YOUR BOND ELECTION UNTIL 2022.
THEN IN THAT FALL IN WINTER, YOU BROUGHT ON ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS TO BEGIN PROVIDING YOU SOME OF THAT DATA ADVERTISED FOR DESIGN CONSULTANTS TO BEGIN PREPARING, UH, COST ESTIMATES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF YOUR GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS AND YOUR ENGINEERING DIRECTOR.
THEN, UH, LAST SPRING, THIS PAST SPRING OF 2022, YET AN ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY, MORE THAN A THOUSAND KYLE RESIDENTS PARTICIPATED ONCE AGAIN, TRANSPORTATION WAS A KEY ISSUE THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED BY YOUR CITIZENS DESIRING TO SEE THE CITY ADDRESS, UH, TRAFFIC CONGESTION, AND SAFETY.
UM, BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, UH, CITIZENS WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY TO TALK ABOUT KEY ISSUES, BUT WHICH ROADS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVE THAT THEY FELT WERE THE TOP PRIORITIES.
AND YOUR STAFF BEGAN TO DEVELOP LISTS WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL AND YOUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, UH, SO FAR.
UM, SO FOLLOWING THAT THIS EARLY SUMMER, YOU HA YOU'VE DISCUSSED THIS AS YOU ALL KNOW, BETTER THAN MOST IN SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETINGS, INCLUDING TWO DEPTH WORKSHOPS WHERE YOU WENT OVER THIS WITH YOUR ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS AND YOUR STAFF TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, THE ROAD BOND PACKAGE OR A POTENTIAL ROAD BOND PACKAGE AND TRIMMED COSTS DOWN TO ABOUT $294 MILLION.
THE INITIAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT, I WANT TO POINT OUT WAS MORE THAN $400, $400 MILLION IN ROADS AND REQUESTS FOR ROADS OF THOSE ROADS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY CITIZENS AND YOUR STAFF AND TEAM.
WE SEEM TO FROZEN HERE, OR WE GO HAVING JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE.
SO AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN MORE DETAIL TONIGHT, THE FINAL LIST THAT YOU'LL BE WORKING FROM THE SEASONING WAS DEVELOPED, UH, FROM THESE INITIAL SURVEYS, THEN YOUR ENGINEERING TEAM AND YOUR STAFF LOOKED AT KEY ISSUES LIKE CONGESTION, UM, POTENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SAFETY, AND, UH, UH, UH, CONNECTIVITY ACROSS THE CITIES, THE THINGS LIKE SCHOOLS AND EMERGING CIVIC CENTERS, THE FINAL COSTS WERE DEVELOPED THROUGH THESE ENGINEERING ESTIMATES.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT FROM MR. KENNA LUPA, AND THEN IN THESE WORKSHOPS, YOU ALL HAVE RIGHT SIZE THESE PACKAGES, AT LEAST FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, JUST AS THE LAST MEETING, I THINK THE COUNCIL MADE A GOOD DECISION NOT TO RUSH FORWARD, BUT TO WAIT UNTIL YOU WERE ABLE TO DO ONE LAST ROUND OF REVISIONS, YOU ALL MADE SOME POLICY DECISIONS THAT FURTHER TRIM THE PACKAGE DOWN TO THE 294 MILLION THAT YOU'RE SEEING TONIGHT OR APPROXIMATELY, UM,
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BASED ON THE ROUNDABOUTS YOU HEARD AND, AND OTHER ISSUES TRIMMING OUT SOME, UM, PROSPECTIVE PARTS OF THE PACKAGE.SO LET'S TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE DETAILS BRIEFLY.
UM, FEW CITIES AROUND THE STATE REALLY DEVELOPED FULL BORE ENGINEERING PACKAGES BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE AND THEY NOT WANTING TO INCUR THAT EXPENSE BEFORE CITIZENS HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE MOST USE SOME VERSION OF THE KIND OF CONCEPTUAL ENGINEERING THAT YOU'VE DEVELOPED, OR IN FACT DO LESS AND JUST INFLATE COST ESTIMATES FROM THE LAST BOND PACKAGE OR FROM OTHER ENGINEERING ESTIMATES.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT ABOUT WHAT CONCEPTUAL ESTIMATES MEAN AND WHERE YOU'RE ON THAT.
THEY'RE A PRETTY GOOD TOOL FOR ARRANGING, UM, COSTS.
I THINK A COUNSELOR INTERVIEWS, YOU MADE A GREAT POINT LAST TIME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR THOSE GOOD NUMBERS.
SO, UH, I THINK YOU'LL HAVE STRUCK, UH, THE RIGHT BALANCE OR AT LEAST A CAREFUL BALANCE ON THAT.
WELL, WE SEEM TO, WE HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE CONNECTING TO YOUR SYSTEM, AS YOU CAN SEE, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK.
THE LAST TIME THAT YOU HAD A BOND PACKAGE ON ROADS, IN FACT WAS THE FIRST TIME IN MODERN HISTORY THAT YOU'D HAD A BOND PACKS ON ROADS THAT WAS 2013.
UM, SINCE THANK YOU, WE JUST GET IT JUMPED FORWARD.
SO THE LAST TIME YOU HAD A BOND PACKAGE WAS 2013, UM, SINCE THEN, UH, THERE'S BEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN KIND OF, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT, WHAT YOU ALL INSTRUCTED STAFF TO LOOK AT, AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD AT LEAST FROM YOUR DISCUSSIONS IS A PARAMOUNT CONCERN ABOUT SAFETY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ROADS IS WE'RE GOING TO DO IN JUST A MOMENT, THEY'RE DIVIDED BETWEEN NEW ROADS THAT HELP MOBILITY AND RECONSTRUCTION OF EXISTING ROADS THAT ARE PARTICULARLY AIMED AT INCREASING SAFETY ON THOSE ROADS.
CONGESTION OF COURSE CAUSES MORE ACCIDENTS, BUT CONGESTION ALSO INHIBITS FIRST RESPONDERS FROM ARRIVING TO ACCIDENTS.
SO IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD, AND EVEN PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE IN AN ACCIDENT CAN FIND SAFETY EFFECTED BY CAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TO A HOSPITAL ARE, CAN'T HAVE A FIRETRUCK RESPOND TO THEIR HOUSE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE'VE SEEN IN THE RESPONSES FROM RESIDENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS IS THIS PARAMOUNT CONCERN ABOUT SAFETY, YOUR POPULATION.
AND KYLE'S JUST SINCE 2000 HAS INCREASED MORE THAN TENFOLD.
YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LOOKS AT ANOTHER TREMENDOUS INCREASE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS AS DO ALL THE DEMOGRAPHIC PROJECTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE FROM THE STATE.
SINCE THAT LAST ELECTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT ADDRESS TRANSPORTATION IN 2013, KYLE HAS GROWN, UH, MORE ABOUT 64%, AT LEAST 64%, JUST SINCE 2010.
AND YOU'VE NOT ONLY DRAWN IN PEOPLE YOU'VE GROWN IN AREA, UH, ABOUT 30% WITH THE ANNEXATION THAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED.
SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF STRAIN ON THIS ROAD NETWORK, THE ROAD BONDS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KEEP IN MIND FOR CITIZENS, REALLY TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT AIMED AT ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF 2022.
AND THE POPULATION INCREASES THAT HAVE HAPPENED BETWEEN 2013 AND 2022.
IT'S REALLY AIMED AT A DECADE OUT AND MORE.
THESE ROADS WILL TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO BUILD AND COMPLETE.
AND THEN THE LIFETIME OF THESE ROADS IS 20 YEARS AND BEYOND.
SO YOU'RE REALLY PLANNING OUT INTO FUTURE DECADES, THE ROAD PRIORITIES THAT YOU'VE ESTABLISHED SO FAR IN YOUR WORKSHOPS.
IF YOU DECIDE TO GO FORTH TONIGHT ARE REPRESENTED HERE AND THE PURPLE ROADS REPRESENT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE DIVISION BETWEEN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN READ THAT OR NOT BETWEEN PURPLE AND BLUE, WITH THE BLUE BEING UPGRADES TO EXISTING ROADS AND PURPLE REPRESENTING NEW ROADS.
WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IT ON THE NEXT SLIDES, BUT YOU CAN JUST SEE FROM THIS REPRESENTATION THAT THE MAP IS RELATIVELY HEAVY ON THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE IS TO 5 35.
THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF THE CONGESTION TODAY.
MANY OF THE SUBSTANDARD ROADS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR A LONG TIME.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THOUGH, WHEN YOU TALK TO THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS TO THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS, THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY LOOK AT THIS IN TOTAL ISOLATION BETWEEN EAST SIDE ROADS AND WEST SIDE ROADS, BECAUSE WHAT IT BUILDS IS A TOTAL NETWORK THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO MOVE.
SEVERAL OF THESE ROADS ARE DESIGNED TO MOVE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE EAST AND THE WEST SIDE OF KYLE.
NUMBER OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, THAT DESIRE TO SEE MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, MORE AMENITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE.
PART OF THAT COMES FROM HAVING THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
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UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHENEVER IT DECIDES TO COME UP, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT DIVIDES OUT SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN EAST SIDE AND WEST SIDE ROADS AND THE TOTAL PACKAGE DOLLARS.UM, HERE YOU CAN SEE EIGHT TOTAL PROJECTS, 10.3 TOTAL MILES, UH, COMBINED ON THE EAST SIDE FIVE PROJECTS WITH A 7.1 MILES.
AND YOU CAN SEE ABOUT $228 MILLION ON THE WEST SIDE THREE PROJECTS, 3.2 MILES, AND ABOUT 63 MILLION, AGAIN, UH, MORE PROJECTS ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT EVEN THE EAST SIDE PROJECTS HELP PEOPLE FROM THE WEST SIDE, AS WELL AS PEOPLE ACCESS, UH, DRIVERS TRY AND ACCESS SEAT IN THE HOSPITAL AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.
UM, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS IN A MOMENT FOR MR. KENDALL LUPO.
HERE'S A BREAKDOWN FOR YOU AND FOR CITIZENS OF THE INDIVIDUAL ROADS AND THE ESTIMATED COSTS.
NOW JUST VERY BRIEFLY NEXT STEPS.
IF YOU DECIDE TO CALL AN ELECTION TONIGHT, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN.
FIRST CALL, UH, BONDS.COM IS READY TO GO LIVE TOMORROW.
YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US AND WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT WILL BE READY TO GO LIVE AGAIN TOMORROW, IF YOU CALL THE ELECTION SO THAT CITIZENS CAN ACCESS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT WEBSITE WILL BE COSTS, MAP, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.
AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO CLOSER TO ELECTION TIME, THERE WILL BE MORE AND MORE INFORMATION PUT ON THAT WEBSITE.
NATURALLY, SOME OF THAT IS GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT YOU DO TONIGHT, AND WE HAVE NEW INFORMATION THAT THE FINAL, UH, REFINEMENT OF THE PACKAGE WILL BE DECIDED TONIGHT, BUT WE WILL GET THAT OUT ALONG WITH FAQ'S AND, UH, INFORMATION FOR THE PRESS AS WELL.
TENTATIVELY, THERE'S A PLAN FOR A TOWN HALL THAT COULD HAPPEN IN LATE SEPTEMBER OR EARLY OCTOBER.
IF YOU DO DECIDE TO GO FORWARD TONIGHT, I THINK RACHEL SONJA AND YOUR STAFF WANTS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE DATES FOR THAT, BUT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR A VIRTUAL TOWN HALL AND A LIVE TOWN HALLS, AS WELL AS OTHER WAYS TO DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THE TAX IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE, AND WHICH ROADS WOULD BE INCLUDED REMINDER THAT ELECTION DAY IS NOVEMBER 8TH AND EARLY VOTING BEGINS, UM, ON THE 24TH, WHEN I INVITE MR. CAL LUPO TO COME UP AND JUST GO OVER HOW THE COST ESTIMATES WERE PREPARED AND, UH, SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL ROADS, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, I'M JOE CANTALOUPE, BOY WORKED FOR KEYFRAMES AND ASSOCIATES, AND I'M THE PERSON THAT IS OVERSEEING, UH, YOUR GEC TEAM.
SO THAT TABLE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TOTALS $294 MILLION IN, UH, ALMOST $400,000.
AND THAT IS THE FIRST POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT IS ABOUT $4 MILLION LESS THAN THE $299 MILLION OR SO YOU'D BEEN TALKING ABOUT UP UNTIL RECENTLY BASED ON ACTION AND DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL GAVE AT THE LAST MEETING, WE ELIMINATED THE ROUNDABOUTS FROM THE ON SYSTEM PARTISAN CENTER STREET, AND THAT RESULTED IN A $4 MILLION REDUCTION IN THE TOTAL PRICE OF THE BOND.
BUT REALLY THE, I THINK THE QUESTION YOU HAVE, OR MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE IS WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE THIS FAR TO GET TO THAT, TO IDENTIFY THE $294 MILLION? SO WHAT WE DID WAS, UH, AFTER WE HELPED THE CITY PROCURE THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, WE ENGAGED THE DESIGN ENGINEERS TO DEVELOP WHAT WE CALL PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS, UH, LIGHT VERSIONS.
UM, AND, AND WHAT THAT ENTAILED WAS THOSE DESIGN ENGINEERS GOING OUT AND DOING SOME DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS AND DEVELOPING, UH, THESE 10 TO 15% LEVEL PLANS.
SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM PRELIMINARY SCHEMATICS CONCEPT PLANS, BUT THE SIGNIFICANCE BEHIND THOSE PLANS IS THAT WE DO ENOUGH DATA COLLECTION AND ANALYSIS AND, AND ENGINEERING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT ENTAILS, RIGHT.
WHEN WE SHOW A LINE SAYING THAT THIS ROAD CAN BE IMPROVED IN THIS FOOTPRINT OR THIS NEW ROAD CAN GO FROM THIS POINT TO THIS POINT, GIVEN THIS PATH THAT THERE'S ENOUGH ENGINEERING BEHIND IT, THAT WE KNOW THAT THE ROAD IS, IS FEASIBLE.
THE OTHER THING WE DO WITH THAT 10% OR PRELIMINARY SCHEMATIC STAGE IS WE DO
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ENOUGH WORK TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES, SOMEONE WITH DEVELOPING COST ESTIMATES.WE BELIEVE THAT WE'VE CAPTURED SOMETHING.
NOW JEFF HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT ONE WAY YOU COULD DO IT IS TO JUST MAYBE LOOK AT HOW LONG A PARTICULAR SEGMENT OF ROAD IS.
AND, UH, THINK ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE IMPROVEMENT, WHETHER IT'S A NEW ROAD OR AN IMPROVEMENT TO AN EXISTING ROAD AND APPLY A RULE OF THUMB, OR THAT MAYBE YOU USE, UH, COST ESTIMATES WITHOUT GOING OUT AND DOING ALL THE RESEARCH.
BUT THE DANGER OF THAT IS THAT IF YOU DON'T IDENTIFY ALL THE PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES, YOU STAND A GREATER CHANCE OF GETTING THE COST ESTIMATE, YOU KNOW, UH, WRONG.
AND SO THE SIGNIFICANCE AGAIN, OF DOING THAT 10% PLAN AND THOSE PRELIMINARY SCHEMATICS TO THIS LEVEL IS THAT YOU GET A LOT BETTER, UM, UH, INFORMATION YOU GET, YOU GET MORE INFORMATION IT'S MORE DETAILED AND ALLOWS US TO DO A MUCH, MUCH BETTER JOB OF, UM, DEVELOPING THE COST ESTIMATES, WHICH I THINK WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD GIVE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, FAITH THAT THE NUMBER YOU'VE CHOSEN IS, IS EXACTLY WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
THE OTHER THING TO MENTION ABOUT THE COST ESTIMATES AT THIS LEVEL IS THAT WE BUILD IN CONTINGENCIES, RIGHT? WE BUILT IN EACH OF THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, BUILT IN A LITTLE BIT OF INFLATION AND, AND CONTINGENCY, UH, TO ACCOUNT FOR THINGS THAT AT 10% COULD, COULD CHANGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ALL THE THINGS YOU NEED TO ADDRESS DURING THE DESIGN STAGE AND TO COME UP WITH THINGS THAT YOU COULD ONLY LEARN ABOUT WHEN YOU GO INTO FULL DESIGN AND GO OUT AND DO FIELD WORK, FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES IDENTIFY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE MITIGATED.
SO AGAIN, THESE COST ESTIMATES BUILD IN ENOUGH OF THAT CONTINGENCY TYPE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN, UH, WORK WITH ANY UNEXPECTED THINGS THAT COME UP AND, AND, AND, AND THEY DO.
UH, AND SO THOSE ARE, UH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ABOUT WHAT WENT INTO THOSE COST ESTIMATES AND WHAT THEY REPRESENT.
BUT THE FINAL THING I'LL SAY IS THAT IN OUR OPINION, RIGHT, YOUR TECHNICAL TEAM'S OPINION, YOU ARE FAR, UM, FAR AHEAD OF WHERE YOU WERE IN THE LAST BOND PROGRAM.
UM, THERE WAS A LOT MORE TIME AND ATTENTION THAT WENT INTO DEVELOPING THE COST ESTIMATES TO IDENTIFYING THE ISSUES UP FRONT, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD A GOOD COST SYSTEM.
IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU COULD PUT A GOOD NUMBER BEHIND WHEN YOU CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOND.
SO THERE'S A LOT MORE INTO THIS.
I KNOW 10% DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A LOT, AND THAT'S WHY I'M MENTIONING IT, BUT FOR THIS LEVEL OF WORK AND WHERE THINGS ARE 10% IS A LOT.
AND, UH, AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, YOU'RE WAY FURTHER AHEAD THAN YOU WERE THE LAST TIME THE CITY DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND I HOPE THAT HELPS, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, JOE, LET'S MOVE THROUGH.
LET'S WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF POSTS TO HEAR FROM, AND THEN, UH, I'M SURE THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, UM, WANT TO HEAR ABOUT, UH, FROM YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS AT SAMCO TO TALK ABOUT GROWTH, JUST TO REMINDER THAT AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN TREMENDOUS POPULATION GROWTH SINCE 2013, THERE IS ALSO ASSESSED VALUE, GROWTH THAT FIGURES INTO WHAT THE TAX RATE WILL BE.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU HAVEN'T JUST SAT STILL SINCE 2013.
I THINK MR. HENDRICK SWEATSHIRT, YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET IN THIS YEAR ALONE IS ABOUT 120.
SO THE CITY HAS CONTINUED TO MAKE, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT THE THING ABOUT A BOND IS THAT YOU CAN REALLY BEGIN TO PLAN THE WHOLE NETWORK AS YOU LOOK OUT INTO THE FUTURE, AND IT'S AN EFFICIENT WAY TO USE YOUR, UH, YOUR CAPITAL DOLLARS FOR VERY LARGE PROJECTS.
IT ALSO LETS YOU, UM, HAVE FUTURE GROWTH, HELP PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'RE MAKING TODAY FOR, FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS.
YOU ALL ARE WELL AWARE, BUT MANY OF YOUR CITIZENS DON'T FULLY RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S POWER JUST TO DENY DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY COME INTO CALL, YOU CAN HELP MANAGE THEM, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP GROWTH BY STATE LAW.
UM, ALL OF THE DEMOGRAPHERS SEEM TO POINT TO THE FACT THAT KYLE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.
SO AS YOU ALL, UH, LOOK AT THOSE KINDS OF CHALLENGES AS THAT GROWS AS FUTURE PEOPLE COME ON, THEY CAN HELP PAY FOR THESE, UH, BOND PACKAGES.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE PRECEPTS BEHIND IT.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE CRITICAL ISSUES IS REALLY LOOKING AT, UM, WHAT THE ECONOMY IS LIKELY TO DO AND WHAT, UH, ASSESSED VALUE IS LIKELY TO DO OVER THE COMING YEARS.
THAT HELPS PROJECT THE TAX RATE.
I THINK SAM WANTS TO ADDRESS THAT.
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SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS, THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO THE CITY.I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE, THE INFORMATION ALREADY, BUT JUST, WE TRY TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN OUR ESTIMATES GOING FORWARD ON THE TAXABLE GROWTH.
YOU'VE HAD AVERAGED ABOUT 15%, A LITTLE OVER 15% THE LAST 10 YEARS.
SO WE ESTIMATED 10% GROWTH FROM TAX YEARS, 23 TO 26 AND THEN 2% AFTER THAT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A CHRIS, IT'S NOT A PERFECT CRYSTAL BALL, BUT WE TRY TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN WHAT WE ESTIMATE GOING FORWARD.
AND SO THAT WE CAN COME UNDER AND DELIVER ON THAT.
THEN AS FAR AS INTEREST RATES AS WELL, WE'VE RUN THE 23 ISSUE, UH, AT 0.7, 5%, AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUES AT 5%.
AND YOU LOOK AT THE 2022 ISSUE THAT YOU JUST PRICED A ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, WE'D BEEN RUNNING AT 4%.
SO OBVIOUSLY THEIR RATES ARE GOING UP, BUT TO WHERE THERE'LL BE DOWN THE ROAD, WE TRY TO CUSHION THAT IN THERE AND BE CONSERVATIVE SO THAT WE CAN DELIVER.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A ROADMAP TO GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO GET TO, BUT IF GROWTH WERE TO SLOW DOWN, WE COULD SLOW DOWN THE ISSUANCE.
IF GROWTH COMES FASTER, INTEREST RATES GO LOWER, WE CAN MOVE PROJECTS UP.
SO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE WERE TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE IN OUR, IN OUR ESTIMATES OF GOV GOING FORWARD ON THIS TARGET.
AND IT WILL DEPEND A LITTLE BIT ON THE FINAL AMOUNT IF YOU DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, THE WAY IT STANDS NOW AT AROUND THE 295 MILLION, WE'D SEE THE TAX RATE GOING UP TO ABOUT 59.99 CENTS TOTAL TAX RATE FROM THE 50.8 TO WHERE IT IS NOW BASED ON THESE ASSUMPTIONS.
SO I'M GLAD TO GET INTO ANY MORE DETAIL IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN I'LL TURN OVER TO BOND COUNSEL ON, ON HER PRESENTATION.
WELL, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL CALL UP.
WE'LL LET YOU GO THROUGH YOUR WHOLE PRESENTATION FIRST AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL BRING FOLK.
MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, STEPHANIE LIBBY NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT.
OUR FIRM'S SERVES AS BOND COUNSEL, UM, TO THE CITY.
SO FOR PURPOSES OF THE ELECTION ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME ORDINANCE AS WAS BEFORE COUNCIL.
UH, LAST WEEK WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS, WE HAVE BROUGHT DOWN THE PRINCIPLE OF MEL AND THE BOND PROPOSITION FROM $297 MILLION TO $294 MILLION.
UM, AND SOME OF THE PRIOR PRESENTATIONS YOU HEARD CURRENT ESTIMATES ARE 2 94 0.4.
AND SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL TONIGHT TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE AS TO WHERE THAT FINAL NUMBER SHOULD BE, UH, FOR PURPOSES OF THE ELECTION ORDINANCE.
AND THEN ALSO IN THE ELECTION ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE EXHIBIT C, WHICH IS THE VOTER FINANCIAL INFORMATION DOCUMENT THAT GETS POSTED WITH ALL OF YOUR NOTICES OF, UH, ELECTION.
AND SO, AND THAT, THAT DOCUMENT WILL TELL YOU THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF BONDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CALLED AT THIS ELECTION.
THE ESTIMATED INTEREST THAT'LL BE ASSOCIATED WITH REPAYING THAT DEBT, THE CITY'S CURRENT INDEBTEDNESS, OUTSTANDING INTEREST ASSOCIATED WITH REPAYING, THAT DEBT AND THE REPAYMENT SCHEDULE, AND ALSO THE ANTICIPATED TAX RATE INCREASE THAT ALMOST 9% TAX INCREASE THAT RYAN WAS MENTIONING.
IT'LL SHOW YOU ON A PER HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR VALUATION BASIS, THE TALKS RIGHT.
IMPACT TO THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IN THE CITY.
SO ONCE AGAIN, AS WITH EVERYONE ELSE, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THAT REALLY CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
YOU ALL, I KNOW CITIZENS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE DESIRE FOR TRANSPORTATION.
YOU'LL HAVE TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT ON THE BOND PACKAGE TO GO OUT TO CITIZENS.
THEN CITIZENS WILL HAVE TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO PAY FOR, UH, THE, THAT LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENTS AND PAY TO IMPROVE MOBILITY AND SAFETY IN THE CITY.
SO NATURALLY OUR PRESENTATION AND GLENN FOR YOU ALL TO ANSWER, UH, TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE TEAM.
WHAT I, WHAT I THOUGHT WE WOULD DO AT THIS POINT IS WE HAD QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS THAT WE COULD ASK THEM, BUT IS IT RELATED TO STATEMENTS OR DISCUSSION INTERNALLY OR AMONGST OURSELVES ON THE BOND? WE COULD WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT ITEM COMES UP, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL ITEM.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
UM, ARE WE PLANNING ON HAVING ANY TRAFFIC STUDIES IN ANY OF THE INTERSECTIONS, IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN? AND I'M ASKING THIS BECAUSE WE TOOK TWO ROUNDABOUTS UP, RIGHT.
SO THAT REDUCED THE PRICE OF THE BOND.
ARE WE PLANNING ON ANY OTHER OR DIRECTION OF A TRAFFIC LIGHT OR STOP SIGNS? HOW ARE WE PLANNING FOR THAT? YES, EXCUSE ME.
SO, AS PART OF THOSE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS, UH, THERE WERE INITIAL TRAFFIC STUDIES DONE.
UM, SO THEY, THEY HELP TO INFORM
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NOT ONLY WHAT THE INTERSECTIONS MIGHT NEED TO LOOK AT, BUT ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH REGARD TO, TO THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT OR THE NEW ROAD ITSELF, WHEN WE SCOPE THE DESIGN OF THE FULL DESIGN, YOU KNOW, UH, IF THE BOND SHOULD PASS AND, AND THE CITY MOVES ONTO THAT STAGE, WE WILL ASK THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE STILL CURRENT.UM, BUT THERE IS A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THERE IS TRAFFIC NUMBERS THAT LOOKED AT THAT, THAT DID GET LOOKED AT AND WE'LL GET LOOKED AT JUST BEFORE THE DESIGN GETS DONE.
AND THAT WILL HELP DETERMINE WHETHER A STOP SIGN OR A TRAFFIC LIGHT OR ROUNDABOUT IS AN APPROPRIATE.
THE OTHER THING THAT GETS CONSIDERED AS YOU KNOW, THERE WERE OTHER THINGS THAT GET CONSIDERED, RIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS TO, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE ROUNDABOUTS WERE REMOVED BECAUSE COUNCIL THOUGHT THE IMPACT ON THAT PARTICULAR ROAD WAS TOO GREAT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE CASE IN OTHER PLACES.
DOES THAT HELP ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.
SO, SO GOING BACK TO THE ROUNDABOUTS AGAIN, UM, OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, MAYBE WE CAN GET INTO IT MORE ON THE NEXT SECTION, BUT AGAIN, I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING IT UP, UH, IN REFERENCING THE BUNTON AND LAYMEN EXTENSION AREA.
UH, WITH, UH, NUMEROUS EMAILS THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING IN PHONE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS FROM SOUTH LAKE RANCH IN THOSE PEOPLE THERE, UM, THEY ARE, WE ARE SO DESPERATE TO HAVE A STREETLIGHT THERE.
AND I, AND I KNOW THAT THE ROUNDABOUT IS STILL PROPOSED IN THAT SECTION.
UH, BUT IT HAS TO BE MADE CLEAR THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING MR. BARTON AS WELL, 10, 15 YEARS FROM NOW IN, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA BIAS SCHOOL BY THREE MAJOR NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, REALLY CONSIDERING, AND REALLY PUSHING TO SEE ABOUT THE ADDITION OF STREET LIGHTS AND ESPECIALLY PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS THERE.
AND I KNOW WE SPOKE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING A ROUNDABOUT OUT HERE AND THERE, BUT AGAIN, I HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE PEOPLE THERE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC GETS SO BACKED UP, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY DANGEROUS.
AND SO, UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN, ACCORDING TO LIKE, WHEN MS. PARSI IS SAYING, WHEN YOU DO THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES, EVEN THOUGH RIGHT NOW, IT'S PROPOSED AROUND ABOUT IN THAT AREA, THAT WHEN THEY FINALIZE THE TRAFFIC STUDY ITSELF AND FINALLY REALIZE THAT A STREET LIGHTS WITH PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK IS, IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT NEEDED THERE.
SO TH TH TH THE WHOLE POINT OF DOING THESE PRELIMINARY DREAM REPORTS AND GETTING TO 10% PLANS IS NOT ONLY TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES AND GET A GOOD COST ESTIMATE IT'S TO IDENTIFY THE RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES AND SORT OF AS A NATURAL PROGRESSION THROUGH DESIGN, YOU EVALUATE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, RIGHT? SO IT'S NATURAL TO BE LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS NOW.
UM, AND AS THE NATURAL PROGRESSION THROUGH DESIGN, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE INTERSECTION TREATMENT, WHETHER IT'S A STOP SIGN OR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR AROUND ABOUT RIGHT, IS, IS APPROPRIATE.
SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER, UM, AGREE OR CONTINUE WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ROUNDABOUT OR TO, TO REMOVE IT IN FAVOR OF A SIGNAL, OR EVEN TO GO THE OTHER WAY, STILL EXISTS.
BUT THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT IT IS JUST A NATURAL PART OF GOING THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, BECAUSE SOMETHING IS INCLUDED OR NOT INCLUDED AT AN INTERSECTION, FOR EXAMPLE, DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WILL, OR WON'T BE INCLUDED.
UM, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
YES, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT, UH, THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH SCHOOL BACK, UM, THAT'S THAT, UH, THAT PARTICULAR AREA WITH KASITA RANCH.
AND I GUESS WHEN THEY, THEY HAVE SEEN THE, OR ENDURE THE HORROR STORIES OF THAT ROUTE, SMALL ROUNDABOUT OVER THERE, ON THAT END TO THEM IN THEIR MIND, THEY'RE THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE SAME THING AND IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO WORK.
AND SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF REALLY LOOKING IT AND REALLY TAKING CONSIDERATION OF THAT AREA THAT ALSO LEADS UP TO BUNTON AND DAISEY CAUSE PHILOMENA HAS A STOPLIGHT.
SO I'M JUST THINKING WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU HAVE A ROUNDABOUT AT THAT LOCATION IN THE CARS ARE CONTINUING TO FLOW, AND THEN YOU GO ALL THE WAY UP TO BUNTON AND DAISEY AND THE ROUNDABOUTS THERE'S CONTINUE TO FLOW.
AND THEN YOU COME TO A DEAD STOP, BOOM, STOPLIGHT, ADD PHILOMENA, YOU'RE STUCK AGAIN.
SO IT'S A MATTER OF CONTROLLING THE TRAFFIC.
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YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FLOW THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT ON THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT CONTROLLING THE TRAFFIC AND HAVE IT IN, IN SYNC WITH THE STREETLIGHTS TO GET IT TO DC ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PARKWAY, TICKETS TO 35, I SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS POINT WHEN I WAS UP HERE A FEW MINUTES AGO, WAS IT, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT GETS DONE THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS IS THAT THERE'S MORE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S OUR JOB AS YOUR TECHNICIANS AND THE DESIGN ENGINEER'S JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING WE'RE PROPOSING ON THE CITY'S BEHALF, RIGHT.THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS, RIGHT.
AND THEY KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ON WHY NOT.
SO THAT'S REALLY LIKE A CONVERSATION, RIGHT? AND IT HAS TO DO WITH SIDEWALKS WITH WHERE CROSSINGS ARE OR NOT, AND INCLUDING THE NATURE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE INTERSECTIONS.
SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, UM, REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT, WHEN THESE THINGS GO FROM THESE 10% PLANS INTO FULL DESIGN, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE IN A VACUUM.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU WILL ASK US IN HERE TO GIVE YOU UPDATES, MAYBE MORE OFTEN THAN WE'RE PLANNING AND THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE ENGAGED.
AND SO, AND THAT'S THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS IN OTHER PLACES.
AND THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, MY OPINION IS THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD WORK.
THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE WILL HAVE WITH YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR BEHALF.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS? ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE CALLING A BOND ELECTION TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS, MAKING PROVISION FOR THE CONDUCT OF A JOINT, UH, ELECTION AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS, UH, INCIDENT AND RELATED TO SUCH AN ELECTION.
THIS IS THE MOMENT WE'VE COME TO IT'S TIME TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS.
UH, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T, UH, REALLY, UM, SHIED AWAY OVER THE LAST YEAR PLUS THAT I THINK THAT ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY CLEARLY HAS, UH, GIVEN US FEEDBACK THAT THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT.
UH, I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH SO THAT WE DIDN'T MAKE THE MISTAKES, UH, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MADE IN 2013.
UH, JUST AS WE'VE GROWN AS A CITY.
THIS IS OUR SECOND BOND ELECTION, UH, TO CALL, UH, ON ROADS TO THEN.
SO, UM, UH, I HAVE MAYBE A FEW OTHER THINGS I MIGHT WOULD SAY, BUT I'LL JUST TURN THE FLOOR OVER.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS CUSTOMER FOR SCALE? I THANK YOU.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE FOR LEON OR FOR K FREEZE, UM, REGARDING A COUPLE OF THESE ROADS AND I, I THINK LEON WILL NEED TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK INFORMATION MIGHT NEED TO BE, MIGHT BE NEEDED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
UM, BUT BOTH, BOTH OF YOU GUYS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ANSWER.
MARION COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
SO FOR PROJECT ID, NUMBER SIX, JUST PARKWAY, KYLE PARKWAY, LEHMAN EXTENSION.
UM, I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY HOUSES IMPACTED IN THIS, ON THIS ROAD FORMATION.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE PLANS THAT RECENTLY, SO I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN ANSWER THAT THAT WOULD HELP.
I WENT TO, I WENT TO GOOGLE AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY HOW, HOW THIS ROAD IS GOING TO LOOK.
UM, AND SO ALSO IN REGARDS TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY'S IS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ROUNDABOUT OVER ON LAYMAN AND BUTTON.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM THIS, UM, ROUNDABOUTS ARE GREAT IN SOME AREAS, BUT I DON'T THINK A WALKABLE AREA IS GOOD FOR A ROUNDABOUT.
AND I HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, THE STUDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT ONLY HAVE LIKE HALF OF AN AREA TO WALK ON.
I DON'T ONLY, I THINK THE LEFT SIDE, IF YOU'RE GOING TOWARDS LAYMAN HIGH SCHOOL HAS SIDEWALKS AND THE OTHER SIDES DOES NOT.
SO I HAVE A REAL CONCERN FOR THE STUDENTS THAT HAVE TO WALK IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN WHILE HE'S LOOKING FOR PROJECT 86, UH, PROJECT ID EIGHT, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WILL NOT BE ANY HOUSES AFFECTED THERE AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN PROJECT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT THOSE ROADS ARE, IF YOU HAD THESE MEMORIZED PROJECT ID NUMBER SEVEN.
I REVIEWED THE FEMA FLOOD WEBSITE AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS ROAD
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IS PARTIALLY IN A FLOOD PLAIN.THEN THAT LOOK, THAT WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SOME CULVERTS OR BRIDGES THERE.
SO MY CONCERN WITH BUILDING ANYTHING IN A FLOOD PLAIN, IS THAT IT'S GOING TO PUSH THE WATER TO OTHER AREAS, UM, INSTEAD OF DOING ITS JOB, WHICH, UM, I THINK SOMETIMES WE'RE SCARED TO ALLOW THOSE AREAS, WHICH, UM, W WHICH ARE NEEDED.
SO WE DON'T FLOOD OUT OUR WHOLE CITY TO JUST ALLOW THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS.
SO ANYTIME I SEE SOMETHING BEING BUILT IN A FLOOD AREA, IT THROWS A RED FLAG FOR ME, AS WELL AS, AS, AS, AS, AS OUR STAFF, WE GET VERY CONCERNED WHEN WE SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO BUILD THINGS IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO WE, WE REVIEW THOSE VERY CAREFULLY AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY TAKE OF UP, TAKE ALL PRECAUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE ATLAS 14 REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE DRAINAGE CRITERIA, MANUAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE LOOK AT THOSE VERY CAREFULLY, THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO WE'RE, I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT WHEN WE PUT INTO OUR ESTIMATE THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE BUILDING IN A FLOOD PLAIN, AND IT COULD COST EXTRA YES.
IT IS THAT, THAT, THAT IS, UM, THAT'S CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE COST ESTIMATE.
AND, AND I'LL ALSO ADD THAT FOR ANY, UH, PROJECT, WHETHER THERE'S A FLOOD PLAIN INVOLVED OR NOT.
THERE IS A DRAINAGE STUDIES THAT, UH, THAT, UH, THAT ARE DONE.
SO THE DRAINAGE ENGINEERS ARE CONCERNED WITH THE WATER THAT COMES OFF THE ROAD, WHETHER YOU'RE RECONSTRUCTING A ROAD, YOU KNOW, MODIFYING IT OR BUILDING A NEW ROAD.
AND THEY'RE ALSO CONCERNED WITH, UH, WATER THAT COMES TO, OR FROM NATURAL WATERWAYS.
SO WHEN YOU SEE A FLOOD PLAIN, RIGHT, UM, KNOW THAT THE DRAINAGE ENGINEERS ARE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE WATER DOESN'T DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IT CAN, IT CAN'T HARM ANY PROPERTY, UH, THAT THAT'S THE POINT OF THE PROJECT.
SO THOSE ESTIMATES AGAIN AT THIS LEVEL, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE CONTINGENCIES ARE BUILT INTO THAT, BUT THAT'S ALL PART OF THAT FULL DESIGN PROCESS IS MAKING SURE THAT THE DRAINAGE EITHER NATURAL DRAINAGE OR DRAINAGE THAT'S COMING FROM THE ROAD BEHAVES THE WAY IT SHOULD TO NOT IMPACT ANYBODY.
IS HOW MUCH OF THAT AREA IS ALL CAUSE CURRENTLY DEVELOPED W PROJECT THAT THE ONE OVER IN THE FLOOD WAS PROJECT ID NUMBER SEVEN.
BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS GOING TO BE THAT WE BUILT THIS ROAD RIGHT NOW, AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE.
AND THEN DEVELOPMENT COMES AND THEN WE HAVE ISSUES LATER.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, WE KEEP ALL THAT IN MIND BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KYLE'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
AND SINCE WE DON'T, AS A CITY, DON'T OWN THAT LAND, UH, WE CAN'T REALLY DICTATE WHAT GETS, YOU KNOW, HOW IT GETS UTILIZED AND HIS LAND GETS DEVELOPED, RIGHT? IT BECOMES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LAND TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE SAME WAY, THE ROAD CAN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON DRAINAGE.
IT'D BE THE SAME WAY THAT THE PEOPLE DEVELOPING THE LAND.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD WILL CONSIDER, OR THE DRAINAGE ENGINEERS WILL CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN SEE AND GET THEIR HANDS ON.
AND THEN A YEAR OR 2, 5, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, IF A PIECE OF PROPERTY DEVELOPS, IT WILL HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING.
IT WILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT INCLUDES THE FEATURES AND THE DESIGN FEATURES AND AMENITIES THAT, UH, THAT PREVENT ITS RUNOFF FROM AFFECTING, YOU KNOW, THE ROADS OR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
SO GOING BACK TO MY TWO QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, ANY HOUSES BEING AFFECTED FOR PROJECT NUMBER SIX AND PROJECT NUMBER EIGHT, NOT THE REASON I HAD TO RUN OUT IT'S BECAUSE I CAN'T, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T CONFESS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER THOSE ROADS ARE EITHER.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT ROADS? SO PROJECT NUMBER SIX IS KYLE PARKWAY, LAYMAN EXTENSION.
I LOOKED AT A QUICK LOOK AND THE WAY THAT, UH, THE PRELIMINARY SCHEMATIC, THE 10% PLAN IS LAID OUT, IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT ANY HOMES ARE AFFECTED NOW THERE'LL BE AFFECTED PROPERTIES, BUT NOT HOMES.
UM, AND THOSE PICTURES OF THE HOUSING AND THE OVERSIGHT, THOSE ARE LIKE YESTERDAY, RIGHT? BECAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT USING OLD PICTURES TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT, THEY WERE MOVING FORWARD KNOWING THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO AFFECT ANY OF THOSE.
OUR BELIEF IS THAT THE DESIGN ENGINEERS GRABBED, YOU KNOW, THE MOST RECENT AERIAL PHOTOS THAT THEY COULD.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO BE BUTTONED CREEK ROAD
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WITH ME JUST A SECOND, PLEASE.I HESITATE TO RUN BACK OUT, BUT I DID NOT BELIEVE THAT BUTTON CREEK ROAD IS AFFECTING ANY HOMES.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A, THERE'S A ROAD CALLED
AND THEN LOOKING IN THAT KIND OF STRAIGHTENING THE CURVE AND IT MAY BE AFFECTED.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WON'T, I CAN'T GET MY PICTURES UP.
LIKE I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT I COULD RUN BACK OUT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE VOTE, WE HAVE THE MOST INFORMATION.
SO YOU DO WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED TO DO COUNSELOR.
I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LAYMAN BUTTON INTERSECTION WITH THE ROUNDABOUT.
UM, THAT IS A TOUGH INTERSECTION THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
UH, WHEN WE BUILT THAT LAST SECTION OF LAYMAN THROUGH THERE, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD DROP-OFF THERE.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A WALL THAT'S BEEN HIT RECENTLY.
SO EVEN GETTING IN THERE TO MAKE REPAIRS ON THAT IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT.
SO PUTTING AROUND ABOUT THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUSH IT TO TWO ORANGES NORTH.
UH, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TAKES QUITE A BIT OF PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO YES, THAT'S ONE DISADVANTAGE OF ROUNDABOUTS.
THEY DO TAKE A LOT OF PROPERTY WHENEVER YOU TRY TO BUILD THOSE.
UH, AS, AS SAFETY, OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S TOUTED THERE, THE BEST THING TO INSTALL IT AT AN INTERSECTION BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT THEY, THEY PROVIDE YOU.
UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT VERY CLOSELY.
SEE, IS THIS REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE? WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE, YOU CAN ALSO HANDLE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC VERY WELL.
SOMETIMES AT MEDIAN THAT SEPARATES THE VEHICLES.
THERE CAN BE USED AS A SAFE PLACE TO STOP AND IN BETWEEN THE TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUTS.
THAT'S ONE PLACE THAT SAFE HAVEN IS THERE.
IF THEY GET CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO VEHICLES, BUT THEN IN WATCHING THE TRAFFIC THAT USES OUR ROUNDABOUT OVER HERE, THEY DON'T DRIVE VERY SLOWLY.
SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IT ALSO, BUT, UH, BUT THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE, UH, MET THE GUIDELINES THAT WE USED IT'S TO ALLOW YOU TO PROTECT THE PEDESTRIANS.
BUT MY DEEPER CONCERN WOULD BE PUTTING A ROUNDABOUT NEAR A HIGH SCHOOL WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO DON'T MAKE THE BEST CHOICES WILL BE CROSSING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT AS A PREVIOUS HIGH SCHOOL PERSON, UM, YEAH, I WOULD RUN ACROSS THE STREET AS FAST AS I COULD, YOU KNOW, SO I, I DO WANT TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN AND THEN HAVE THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS IN MIND, AS WE DECIDE IF WE WANT TO HAVE A ROUNDABOUT.
AND I WILL SAY I'M HESITANT BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THESE ROUNDABOUTS, THAT MANY OF US ARE OPPOSED TO, THIS COULD BE A CHEAPER BOND.
AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BOND IS GOING TO PASS, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT CHEAPER, YOU KNOW, UNREALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT.
UM, SO PEOPLE SEE IT AND KNOW THAT WE ALL WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BOND WAS PRETTY REASONABLE IN ITS PRICE AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, THE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ROUNDABOUTS AND SEE THE FEASIBILITY OF INSTALLING A ROUNDABOUT.
THERE IS A LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT SAYS IF WE JUST DON'T FEEL THAT, THAT, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS AND THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE THERE, DON'T ALLOW US TO PUT THAT ROUND ABOUT THERE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MY CONCERN WOULD BE MORE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PROVIDING THE VOTERS WITH A NUMBER THAT'S REALISTIC.
SO EVEN IF WE COULD TAKE OFF, YOU KNOW, A MILLION OR 2 MILLION DUE TO ROUNDABOUTS, UM, THAT I THINK THAT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO BE WILLING TO VOTE FOR THIS BOND.
THEN THE LAST ONE, WHILE HE'S LOOKING AT THAT, I DO HAVE A CONCERN AND IT'S BEEN A CONCERN BEFORE ON PROJECT ID NUMBER FOR ALL STAGE COACH ROAD SLASH CENTER STREET TO RM ONE 50.
AND, UM, IT'S THE CONFIRMATION OF EXISTING TREE REMOVAL OR PRESERVATION.
THE CITY GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, UM, RESPONSES FOR NOT WANTING TO REMOVE THIS TREE.
SO IF WE SO CHOOSE TO, WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE RESPECTFUL OR, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO VOTE TO DO THAT.
UM, IT MAKES ME KIND OF NERVOUS CAUSE I SAW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE.
AND SO KIND OF MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT THE CITY HAS COME UP WITH ANOTHER OPTION BESIDES CUT IT DOWN OR MOVE IT.
OR THEY'VE LOOKED AT ALL THE OTHER, UM, ENGINEERING OPTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THE LEAST CONTROVERSIAL DECISION THAT WE CAN MAKE.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE 30% PLANS ON THE STAGECOACH.
AND ESPECIALLY THAT TREE LAST I RECALL, WE DID REMOVE, UH, WE DID STAY AWAY FROM THE TREE.
WE PUSHED THE ROAD TO THE WEST SIDE, THE DILEMMA THAT YOU HAVE THERE AS YOU HAVE THAT, UH, RETENTION
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POND OR DETENTION POND THERE.SO IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE IT EVEN FURTHER WEST, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADDRESS THE LOSS IN VOLUME.
IF WE MOVE IT OVER INTO THAT DETENTION POND.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT DESIGN PROJECT AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.
IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHAT THE DIRECTION WE'RE GIVEN TO TRY TO SAVE THE TREE.
AND THIS IS THE STUFF I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE'RE ADDING NEW DEVELOPMENT AND NEW HOUSES, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE MUCH NEEDED CAUSES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, IT CAUSES A LOT OF ANITA'S STRESS.
SO, I MEAN, AT SOME POINT WE COULD HAVE SAID THAT'S JUST NOT A GOOD AREA FOR A DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP.
I CAN'T IMAGINE IT WAS ALWAYS HOUSING.
I'M SURE IT HAD TO BE REZONED AT SOME POINT.
SO MAYBE MOVING FORWARD COLLECTIVELY WE CAN THINK MORE ON THAT DIFFERENT LEVEL.
SO DOES HE HAVE AN ANSWER COUNSEL? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE ANY HOMES AFFECTED ON THAT.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THAT I WAS LOOKING AT THE SAME THING YOU WERE LOOKING AT.
UM, AND, AND IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WILL BOIL DOWN TO DESIGN RIGHT.
AND THIS IS WITH ANY ROAD PROJECT, YOU DO ANY PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T THINK YOU'RE AFFECTING HOMES OR ANY PLACE WHERE YOU ARE THAT WILL GET, UH, REFINED AS WE GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS.
WHAT I DON'T WANT IS A TOWN OF 60,000 PEOPLE VOTING WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THEY MAY HAVE TO REMOVE SOMEBODY'S HOME.
AND IN THE EVENT, THAT'S THE CASE.
IT IS NOT OUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY, BUT AS ARE THE CITY'S MORAL DUTY TO INFORM THOSE PEOPLE.
AND SO IF THAT WAS THE CASE, I WOULD ALSO HAVE LIKED TO HAVE THEM NOTIFIED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING SO THEY COULD HAVE CAME AND HAD HAD THEIR SAYING DURING THE HEARING.
UM, BUT IT, IT, IT, AGAIN, AT THIS LEVEL, RIGHT, WE HONE IN AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT THE DESIGN PROCESS REFINES THAT.
AND SO WHAT WE KNOW TODAY, RIGHT.
AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IT WILL, BUT THERE IS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING CHANGES, RIGHT.
THE SAME WAY THAT AROUND ABOUT THAT MAKES SENSE TODAY MAY NOT MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS OR A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION MIGHT BE BETTER, YOU KNOW, TO BE A STOP SIGN.
UH, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE NATURAL PROGRESSION AND EVOLUTION OF PROJECTS.
UM, BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, FROM BEING HONEST, IT ON ANY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD CHANGE, BUT WE'VE DONE THE VERY BEST WE CAN, THE DESIGN ENGINEERS TO AVOID IMPACTS TO PROPERTIES AND TO AVOID IMPACTS THE STRUCTURES.
UM, IT'S, UH, ONE MORE THING BEFORE I AM DONE.
UM, I DO WANT TO SAY, I GUESS IN ALL THE DISCUSSION, I DIDN'T QUITE REALIZE THAT THE CITY WAS TAKING OFF THE ONE 50 BYPASS.
UM, AND SO THAT TO ME IS A GREAT CONCERN, CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN THAT BYPASS ON THERE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW UNDER ANTIBODY PASS OVER BY SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT EVEN CREATED YET, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN THE ONE 50 BYPASS PLACED, UM, ON THE BOND TO TAKE CARE OF IMMEDIATE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.
AND, UM, MAYBE GIVEN US A LITTLE BIT MAINTENANCE CONTROL BACK ON CENTER STREET.
IS THERE OTHER DISCUSSION I DO WANT TO JUST REITERATE, I KNOW JOE SAID IT MANY TIMES, BUT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE JUST DECIDING AT THIS POINT, WHETHER OR NOT TO CALL THE BOND, WE'VE GIVEN A 10% SCHEMATIC, WE'VE GOT A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD FORWARD WITH.
AND THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES DEPENDING ON IF THE BOND PASSES, WHICH ROADS WE PRIORITIZE AND HOW WE SCOPE THOSE OUT.
THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE ROUNDABOUT, NO ROUNDABOUT TREE, NO TREE.
ALL OF THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT ARE FORTHCOMING.
NONE OF THOSE ARE DECISIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE TONIGHT EASILY OR WITH ANY KIND OF CLARITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DESIGN WORK OR THE STUDIES AVAILABLE TO US.
WE JUST HAVE THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TO GET TO THE POINT OF CALLING THE ELECTION, WHICH WE HAVE DONE THAT WORK.
AND I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD CONFIDENTLY, UH, WITH THOSE PROPOSALS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
[3. Consideration and approval of an Ordinance calling a Bond Election to be held in the City of Kyle, Texas; Making provision for the conduct of a joint election; and Resolving other matters incident and related to such election. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
MAYOR.SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER TO CUSTOMER MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCILMAN I JUST A LEGAL ONE FOR A PAGES PAGE ONLINE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UM, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT, OUR, OUR LAST BOND, ONCE WE, WE CALLED THE BOND COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD NOT ADVOCATE OR FOR, OR AGAINST THE BOND BECAUSE IT WAS ILLEGAL.
IS THAT CORRECT? YOU CANNOT USE
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PUBLIC RESOURCES OR PUBLIC FUNDS TO, UH, ENGAGE IN POLITICAL ADVERTISING, WHICH IS TO ADVOCATE FOR THE VOTE TO COME OUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.UH, SO THAT IS CORRECT, BUT ON YOUR OWN TIME AND WAY TO SAY IT IS ON YOUR OWN TIME AND ON YOUR OWN DIME OUTSIDE OF THE USE OF RESOURCES, PUBLIC RESOURCES, YOU CAN, AS A CITIZEN ADVOCATE FOR A POSITION ON THE BOND.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL KNEW THE RULES AND MADE SURE THAT WE WERE BUYING BITING BY THEM AS WELL.
SO, UM, ON YOUR PUBLIC, UH, TIME, UH, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT ON THE CITY'S DIME YOU CAN'T OKAY.
SO THAT MEANS IF WE HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING, IF COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE THERE, THEY ARE TO, WHAT WOULD IT BE THE ROLE JUST TO, WILL IT BE THE ROLE PAGE IF WE WERE TO ATTEND ANY OF THESE TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT, THAT ARE, THAT THAT WILL BE PROPOSED ABOUT THE ROADS? WE JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT IF WE SHOW UP OR WERE THERE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE LEGAL FOR US OR A NO-NO FOR US TO SAY, OR TO DO WHILE WE'RE THERE AS EITHER ADVOCATING OR NOT ADVOCATING AND SO FORTH ON THAT END? WELL AGAIN, AND I'LL COORDINATE WITH YOUR, UH, GAP STRATEGIES, CONSULTANT AS WELL TO GIVE YOU SOME WRITTEN GUIDANCE ON THOSE.
SO I CAN MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE HABITAT HALL MEETINGS ARE BEING HELD, BUT IN GENERAL, IF THE PUBLIC RESOURCES ARE BEING USED IN THOSE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, THOSE SHOULD BE EDUCATIONAL AND NEUTRAL.
FACTUAL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS PARTICIPATING IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY.
IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY IT'S WOULD BE ADVISABLE TO JUST STICK WITH NEUTRAL FACTUAL INFORMATION TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN AS FAR AS ADVOCATING ONE POSITION OR ANOTHER URGING VOTERS TO VOTE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WOULD THAT BE RESERVED FOR OUTSIDE OF THOSE MEETINGS? BUT AGAIN, WITH THESE QUESTIONS COMING UP, WHAT WE CAN DO IS I'LL COORDINATE WITH YOUR, YOUR CONSULTANT, YOUR GAP STRATEGIES CONSULTANT, AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A MEMO TO YOU AS COUNSEL, SO THAT YOU HAVE CLEAR WRITTEN GUIDELINES TO FOLLOW.
AND IF JUST ONE LAST FOLLOW-UP AGAIN.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR IS JUST TO BASICALLY HAVE THIS INFORMATION TO BE PLACED IN, GO FORTH ON A BOND, BUT AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING, THAT IS STILL DEPENDING ON THE AREAS AND SO FORTH AND LIKE THAT, AND IN THE EVENT THAT ANY KIND OF PROPERTY OR HOME THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE AHEAD OF TIME THAT THIS IS THE POSSIBILITY.
I HAVE SEEN A STORY IN KENTUCKY WHERE A PERSON HAS HAD A BUSINESS FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.
AND NEXT THING THEY KNOW THEY GOT A ROAD COMING THROUGH IT AND DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ANY IDEA OF THIS COMING THROUGH.
AND THEY ALREADY HAD ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTION.
I WOULD HATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN FOR A RESIDENT THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR SO LONG.
AND NEXT THING YOU, WE VOTE FOR THIS.
AND THE PROPOSAL IS THAT YES, WHAT WE PART OF THIS PLAN WOULD ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY.
WE'LL CERTAINLY DO OUR BEST TO GET STRATEGIES AND PUBLIC INFORMATION, TO MAKE SURE IN THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THAT'S CLEARLY MARKED THAT PEOPLE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN TO THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN I WOULD JUST SAY ALSO, AS MR.
IF YOU DO GET INTO AN EMINENT DOMAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT YET AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT IT'S A VERY DETAILED PROCESS AND THE COUNCIL CAN SET SOME PRIORITIES AND SOME POLICIES THAT GOVERN, UH, HOW YOU TREAT RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION AND EMINENT DOMAIN CUTS WERE PARTIALLY.
WHAT DUDE JUST BASICALLY SAID.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW THAT THIS IS, UM, WE ONLY HAVE PRELIMINARY PLANS.
THIS IS LIKE A 10% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO REALLY THAT DESIGN, IF THE DESIGN OF ONE ROAD, IT'S ABOUT $3 MILLION, WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, IT'S MAYBE A SHADOW OF WHAT REALLY THE DESIGN IS GOING TO BE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, IF THE BOND PASSES BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY OF THE ROADS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH ANY RESIDENT THAT MAY BE AFFECTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD, IF WE WERE TO HAVE FINDINGS OF ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOIL STUDIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING ADVERSITY IN THE DESIGN OR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ROADS, UM, THAT WE WILL BE NOTIFIED.
AND SO WILL THE RESIDENTS AROUND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER? I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE PLANS THAT YOU ALL HAVE DEVELOPED IN THAT YOUR STAFF HAS DEVELOPED IN THE RFPS THAT YOU'VE PUT OUT IN THE SCOPE OF WORK IN CASE THE BONDS DO PASS INDICATE VERY STRONGLY, THAT YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE PUBLIC
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MEETINGS AND A PUBLIC PROCESS THAT WOULD LET CITIZENS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AS THAT DESIGN PROGRESSIVE'S.AND NOT IN GENERAL, IF YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT, UH, COUNSEL TO THE EXTENT THAT THE DESIGN REQUIRES FIELD WORK, RIGHT? IF THE FIELD WORK WE CRA REQUIRES THAT WE'D GO ON ANYONE'S PROPERTY, THOSE FOLKS HAVE TO GIVE US PERMISSION.
AND SO THEY'LL KNOW WHY WE'RE ON THE PROPERTY, WHAT WE'RE COLLECTING AND WHY, BUT THAT'S JUST A SMALL PART OF A BIGGER PROCESS THAT WILL INCLUDE THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, NOT AT THE END, BUT AT THE VERY BEGINNING, THAT'S WHERE FLOURISH CAMP.
UM, I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT, UM, EVERYBODY KEEPS SAYING THAT WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
WE COME BACK AND LOOK, WE HAVE TWO OPENINGS ON COUNCIL.
SO IN SOME OF THESE ROADS ARE NOT, UH, EXPECTED TO BE BUILT FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO THE REASON WHY WE HAVE ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THESE HEARINGS AND DISCUSSIONS, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT AFFECTED IS BECAUSE IN FIVE YEARS WE COULD HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COUNCIL THAT HAS DIFFERENT IDEAS.
UM, WHEN WE, THEN WHAT WE HAD SO SCARY TO TELL YOU WHAT IT FEELS LIKE THEN WHEN WE, SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.
THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY HESITANT ON THIS, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THESE ARE NOT EVEN PROJECTED.
WE CAN'T EVEN START TO BEGIN THEM FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS ALWAYS, WHY ARE WE DOING THESE ROADS THAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE FIVE YEARS TO BUILD? AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE FIVE.
WELL, IT'S GOING TO TAKE FIVE YEARS TO GET THERE.
SO, AND THEN FIVE YEARS OF BUILD.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 10 YEARS, NOT THAT I WANT TO PUT ANYTHING ON HOLD, BUT I FEEL LIKE, UM, THERE ARE ROADS THAT NEED IMMEDIATE ATTENTION, LIKE 10 YEARS AGO.
AND I REALLY WISH THAT THIS BOND WAS ROADS, THOSE ROADS THAT WE WERE FOCUSING ON AND NOT FUTURE ROADS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF GENERATING MONEY FOR THE CITY.
BUT AT SOME POINT I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST THE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE RESIDENTS WAITING 20 MINUTES TO DRIVE THREE TO FOUR MILES.
I GOT AN EMAIL TODAY FROM A RESIDENT AND SHE LITERALLY SAID HELP ME.
AND THAT WAS, I MEAN, HONESTLY, WE'VE GOTTEN ME IN COUNCIL MEMBER.
TOBY'S, I'VE GOTTEN LIKE EIGHT TO 10, LIKE AN UNGODLY AMOUNT.
AND IT REALLY DISTURBS ME THAT I THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO.
I MEAN, I TOOK IT TO JERRY CHEERY WITHOUT A DOUBT HAS TRIED HIS HARDEST, BUT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW FOR THIS BOND TO FOCUS ON JUST THOSE ROADS AND GET THEM DONE QUICKLY.
BECAUSE I THINK FOR ME, THAT'S WHAT MY INTENT ON THIS BOND WAS TO DO WAS TO JUST GET TO ZERO BECAUSE AS WE STAND NOW AS A CITY, WE ARE 10 YEARS BEHIND, AT LEAST.
SO IF WE CAN JUST GET TO, YOU KNOW, 20, 20, I THINK WE WOULD BE DOING GREAT.
SO IT DOES KIND OF BOTHER ME TO SEE $160 MILLION WORTH OF BRIDGES FOR FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WE TOOK OFF ROADS, YOU KNOW, THE BYPASS FOR ONE 50, WHICH WOULD HELP CENTER STREET AND IT WILL TAKE ALL THE, YOU KNOW, SEMIS OFF THE ROADS DOWN CENTER STREET, UM, AND GET THEM TO THEIR DESTINATION, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS ONE 50.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I DO HAVE, UH, UH, ONE QUESTION FOR PAGE.
UM, NOW I TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS IN ELECTIONS AND WHAT WE CAN'T SAY, WE DO HAVE AN ELECTION GOING ON.
AND SO I JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IF THOSE, SINCE THEY'RE NOT ELECTED THE CANDIDATES, ARE THEY ABLE TO DISCUSS THEIR FEELINGS ON THE BOND? OH YEAH.
THE, THE LIMITATION, AGAIN, THE LIMITATION IS ON THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS FOR PUBLIC ADVERTISING.
PUBLIC ADVERTISING IS TO THAT PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO OUT OF CURIOSITY, UM, SO FACEBOOK ISN'T PUBLIC FUNDS.
IF THE FACEBOOK IS A, UM, A WEBSITE THAT IS, OR IF IT'S A FACEBOOK PAGE THAT IS PAID FOR CITY FUNDS ARE MANAGED BY CITY PERSONNEL.
SO THAT WOULD BE USE OF CITY FUNDS OR CITY RESOURCES.
THEN THAT'S, THAT'S A, UH, THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED, BUT A PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE, THAT'S NOT SUPPORTED BY PUBLIC FUNDS, UH, THAT IS NOT MANAGED BY CITY EMPLOYEES.
I HAD NO INTENT ON DOING THAT.
I JUST, SO, SO I HAVE LIKE A PURSE.
I HAVE MY OFFICIAL FACEBOOK AND IT'S RUN BY ME.
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IT'S NOT PAID BY ANYTHING.SO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DON'T HAVE CITY STAFF TO RUN OUR FACEBOOK, OR WHEN WE DON'T USE CITY FUNDS, IS THAT CONSIDERED A SAFE SPOT? IT IS.
IT'S, IT CAN MUDDY THE WATERS A LITTLE BIT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IN A MEMO, JUST SO WE CAN GET INTO THERE'S AREAS THAT ARE BLACK AND WHITE AND AREAS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT GRAY THAT YOU MAY WANT TO, UH, BE MINDFUL OF AND BE CAREFUL ABOUT, BUT AREN'T SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED.
AND SO I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO HAVE THOSE GUIDELINES IN WRITING SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THEM AND FOLLOW THEM.
AND IF YOU HAVE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE.
SO I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING.
UH, SO THIS BOND IS ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.
70 70% OF THIS BOND IS FOR THE NEEDS ON THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE FOR CONNECTIVITY.
IT, IT IS A BOND THAT WE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS.
WE DID STUDIES AND WE CAME TOGETHER WITH A PLAN TO MAKE CONNECTIVITY A LITTLE BETTER.
I GOT, I GET EMAILS FROM PEOPLE ON THE SIDE OF KYLE.
I GOT ONE TODAY FROM A LADY BEGGING FOR HELP.
AND THIS BOND WILL HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THIS.
70% OF IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE IS GOING TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC'S WOES THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, IS IT THE FULL EXTENT OF WHAT WE WANT IS NOT, I'D LOVE TO HAVE SEEN THE ONE 50 BYPASS AS WELL.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY YOU'VE GOTTA BE CAREFUL ON HOW BIG OF A BOND YOU BRING FORWARD TOWARDS THE RESIDENCE.
SO BRINGING IT FORWARD ALMOST A $4 MILLION BOND FOR THE NEEDS WE ACTUALLY NEED.
WE COULD AS A COUNCIL, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL ALL HAD INPUT ON.
SO WE WERE MOVING FORWARD ON IT.
ROLL CALL, VOTE TEVYE S PARSLEY FLORES, KALE MITCHELL BRADSHAW IS ABSENT RIZZO ON ALL RIGHT.
SO POINT OF CLARIFICATION, YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU WITH A $294 MILLION PRINCIPLE AMOUNT FOR THE BONDS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ALL INTENDED? YES.
[4. Consider and possible action to select dates for the 2022 Road Bond Virtual Open House and In Person Open House. ~ Rachel Sonnier, Director of Communications]
NUMBER FOUR, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO SELECT DATES FOR THE 2022 ROAD BOND VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE.RACHEL SONYA DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT BASICALLY THE, UH, 2022 ROAD BOND OPEN HOUSE POSSIBLE DATES.
I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR YOU ALL WITH PROS AND CONS.
I'M GONNA LAY, I'LL MAKE THE DECISION BASED ON THOSE.
SO OUR OPTION NUMBER ONE IS A VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE THAT WILL BEGIN ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 3RD, AND GO THROUGH SUNDAY, OCTOBER 9TH.
UH, THE IN-PERSON OPEN HOUSE WOULD BE AT CITY HALL ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER SIX.
UM, WE CHOSE THIS ONE BECAUSE, UH, WELL IT'S RIGHT BEFORE, UH, EARLY ELECTION AND IT'S RIGHT BEFORE THE, UH, DEADLINE TO REGISTER TO VOTE.
SO WE COULD USE THE OPEN HOUSE AS A REGISTERED, TO VOTE PEOPLE, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE, UH, VOTERS ABOUT THE BOND AS WELL AS, UH, USE THAT TIME PERIOD.
CAUSE IT'S RIGHT AROUND FOUNDER'S PARADE ON OCTOBER 8TH.
IT'S ALSO ON, UH, THE WEEK OF NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON OCTOBER 4TH.
SO IT JUST BE A REALLY GOOD, UH, WAY TO GET OUT THERE TO THE VOTERS, EDUCATE AND GET THEM TO REGISTER TO VOTE.
UH, SO THAT'S ONE, BUT THE ONE CON WITH THIS IS IT'S RIGHT DURING THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE CONFERENCE FROM OCTOBER 5TH THROUGH SEVENTH.
SO THAT MIGHT PRESENT ISSUE IF ANY OF Y'ALL ARE GOING TO THAT CONFERENCE OR A CITY STAFF THAT MAY BE WELL, I THINK THAT TML HAS ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD, GOOD CONFERENCE FOR SOME OF THE NEW NEWER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I LIKE TO GO, BUT I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT I WOULD BE WHEN WE DID THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, OPEN HOUSES, THEY ASKED FOR ME TO DO THOSE.
SO I WOULD, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU WANTED TO GO, YOU COULD GO AND I WOULD COMMIT TO DOING THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE IF THAT'S NEEDED.
WELL, I MEAN, WE ALL, UH, I'M PLANNING ON BEING HERE AND, UH, SO HIS GAP STRATEGIES TO LEAD IT AS WELL AS A CITY STAFF, A LOT OF CITY STAFF WILL BE HERE FOR THAT, BUT WE REALLY JUST WANT COUNCIL TO HAVE THE OPTION.
IF THEY DO PLAN ON GOING TO TML OR CITY STAFF, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND
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OF MAKE THAT DECISION.BUT, UH, THEN WE ALSO HAVE OPTION TWO THAT WOULD PUT IT ONE WEEK AFTER THAT.
SO THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE WOULD BE FROM MONDAY, OCTOBER 10TH THROUGH SUNDAY, OCTOBER 16TH.
UH, SO IT WOULDN'T REALLY GIVE US MUCH TIME FOR THAT REGISTERED VOTE DEADLINE, OCTOBER 11TH.
SO WE WOULDN'T REALLY HAVE THE KIND OF, UH, OPPORTUNITIES THERE, BUT WE COULD STILL, YOU KNOW, PUSH PEOPLE TO REGISTER VOTE AT FOUNDER'S PARADE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT WOULD STILL TAKE A GOOD ADVANTAGE OF THAT EARLY VOTING PERIOD, WHICH BEGINS ON OCTOBER 24TH, UH, GETTING THAT INFO TO VOTERS RIGHT BEFORE THEY REALLY START THINKING ABOUT STUFF BEFORE THEY GO TO THE BOOTH.
SO REALLY GOOD TIME PERIOD FOR THAT.
UH, THE ONE CON YEAH, AFTER REGISTERED WITH DEADLINE TO VOTE.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THE ACTUAL OPEN HOUSE.
AND THEN OPTION NUMBER THREE, FINAL ONE IS, UH, TO HOLD IT ONE WEEK BEFORE, UH, OCTOBER REALLY STARTS AND DO IT FROM MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 26 THROUGH, UH, SUNDAY, OCTOBER 2ND FOR THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE ELEMENT.
AND THEN IN-PERSON WOULD BE ON THAT THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH.
WE COULD DEFINITELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF REGISTERED VOTERS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.
UM, AND, UH, REALLY JUST, UH, GET THAT INFORMATION OUT BEFORE PEOPLE HIT THE POLLS AND BOOTHS.
SO, BUT, UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? CAUSE WE'RE, TOBY'S OKAY.
UM, I PREFER TO HAVE MORE IN-PERSON AND I WOULD LIKE, UH, TO SEE IF WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE IT ON A SATURDAY AND IN-PERSON BECAUSE PEOPLE WORK.
IF WE DO A OPEN IN-PERSON OR WHATEVER IT IS DURING THE WEEK, WE ALL KNOW, UH, PEOPLE GET OFF OF WORK AND WE ALL KNOW IT TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF JUST TO GET HOME IN PROBABLY ANOTHER HOUR TO GET OVER HERE.
AND IT WOULD BE DONE, UH, TO BE FAIR WITH, TO THE RESIDENTS, TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE MAPS.
UH, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT ON A WEEKEND TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND SEE IT AND MAYBE DO IT AROUND TOWN.
MAYBE DO A TOUR IF THERE'S POSSIBLE.
DO WE HAVE OTHER PLACES AROUND THE CITY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY TAKE THE MAPS TO? WE CAN MAYBE ASK, UM, MAYBE HAVE IT AT THE PUBLIC WORKS CENTER, INHABIT ON EAST, KYLE HAVE A DATE TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND SEE THE ROADMAPS THERE.
MAYBE ON THE WEST SIDE OF KYLE, YOU CAN GO TO THE HAYES COUNTY EXTENSION.
MAYBE WE CAN USE THAT BUILDING OR SOMEWHERE A FACILITY WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THE MAPS ALL OVER THE TOWN FOR THE PEOPLE.
NOT ONLY JUST TO COME HERE DOWNTOWN, BUT GO TO THEM, GO TO THE VOTERS AND SAYING, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS THE ROAD BOND.
WE'RE GOING TO EAST KYLE, HERE'S THE MAPS.
THIS IS THE DAY, COME IN AND SEE IT.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S LOOKING LIKE IN THE, MAYBE THE SPARK SHOP TYPE THING LIKE I'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES.
THEN THEY GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN AND THEY'RE PRESENTED IN, UH, I THINK WE AS MUCH INVOLVEMENT, WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO BE WITH THIS.
INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM COME TO US, WE NEED TO GO TO THEM THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, WE NEED TO GO TO THEM AND SAYING, HERE'S THE MAPS.
AND THEN GO TO ANOTHER SITE SOME OF THE DAY, UH, THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE WOULD ACTUALLY GET.
UM, I'M SURE WE'D PROBABLY GET A LOT, BUT I THINK HAVING IT, SEEING IT, SMELLING IT, LOOKING AT IT AND HAVING SOMEBODY THERE ONSITE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE PLAN MIGHT BE.
THIS IS WHAT THE PLAN MIGHT NOT BE.
WHAT DOES THIS PURPLE THING DO? WHAT IS THIS BLUE? SOMEBODY COULD BE THERE AND TO ACTUALLY TELL THEM WHAT IT IS ON THAT END AND HOW MANY YARDS, HOW MANY MILES, HOW MANY SQUARES SO FORTH ON THAT? IT DEFINITELY COULD WE LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DOING A CITYWIDE TOUR, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.
I'LL RECONVENE WITH GAP STRATEGIES AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN WORK THAT INTO OUR PLAN.
UH, WE'D PLANNED ORIGINALLY WITH THE CONTRACT FOR ONE BIG OPEN HOUSE EVENT WITH A VIRTUAL EVENT, THE VIRTUAL EVENTS MEANT TO LIVE ONLINE.
SO YOU CAN GO BACK AND REWATCH THOSE TALKING POINTS, RELOOK AT ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT'S PRESENTED.
SO THAT'S MORE OF, UM, AN EVERGREEN COMPONENT AS YOU WILL.
COULD WE ALSO TEAM UP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SEE IF WE COULD HAVE IT AT ALL ELEMENTARY CAFETERIA, CAN YOU GO TO JUNIOR HIGH AND GO TO SCIENCE HALL, GO TO CHAPO, MIDDLE SCHOOL, GO TO, UH, SIMON MIDDLE SCHOOL OR WHEREVER GO DOWNTOWN CITY OF KYLE COLUMN MENTOREE NEGLEY AND JUST BE PRESENT TO WHERE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY, CAUSE AGAIN, THESE ROADS ARE GOING TO AFFECT THIS.
THE, THE PARENTS, THE VOTERS, THE STUDENTS TRAVELING, IT WOULD JUST, UH, MY OPINION WOULD BE
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MORE OF, OF A DIRECT WAY TO WHERE WE CAN GO TO THE COMMUNITY OURSELVES AND GO, GO AFTER THEM AND, AND SHOW THEM VERSUS THEM COMING TO US COUNCIL MEMBER, JUST TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT AND TOUCH ON THAT ISSUE OF GOING TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT REALLY SURPRISED US AS THE COVID EPIDEMIC OVERTAKING THE LAST TWO YEARS IS HOW HUNGRY PEOPLE ARE FOR JUST THAT TO BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING ON THEIR OWN TIME AND SURPRISINGLY THE VIRTUAL TOWN HALLS THAT WE'VE DONE HERE, BUT ALL ACROSS THE STATE HAVE REALLY BEEN EMBRACED AND EMBRACED.WE TRACK THOSE TENDENCIES SO EMBRACED BY PEOPLE OF ALL ETHNICITIES AND KIND OF ALL EDUCATION BACKGROUNDS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON HIGHWAY 21, WE WERE WORKING WITH TXDOT AND HAYES AND COLDWELL COUNTIES TO LOOK AT, UH, OUTREACH.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF ENGLISH, SECOND LANGUAGE SPEAKERS ALONG THE NEATER, WALD YOULAND, UH, UH, CORRIDOR AND WHERE TYPICAL TOWN HALLS OR EVEN, UM, COME AND GO EVENTS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL BEEN TO THOSE.
YOU'RE LUCKY IF YOU GET 50 PEOPLE RIGHT TO COME, WE HAD 2000 PEOPLE EACH AT TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS LOG ON TO THE VIRTUAL TOWN HALL.
SO IT'S, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WORK HARD TO DO IS CREATE A TOWN HALL EXPERIENCE ON THE, ON VIRTUAL THAT'S REALLY GUIDED FOR PEOPLE.
IT HAS SOME THINGS LIKE VIDEOS THAT HAS REALLY GOOD EXPLANATIONS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SIT AT HOME IN THEIR PAJAMAS OR AFTER WORK, IF THEY WORK CRAZY HOURS AT SOME ODD TIME AND REALLY ACCESS THE INFORMATION.
SO I WOULD BE GLAD TO TALK TO YOU IN THE CITY ABOUT THE MORE IN-PERSON EVENTS, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, UH, COVID DID REALLY SEEM TO CHANGE THINGS IN THE WAY THAT PEOPLE LOG ON, UH, THE, THE STATS FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SMARTPHONES NOW THAT CAN, UH, ACCESS INTERNET OR SURPRISING TO ME, AT LEAST IT IS, YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY EVERY FAMILY NOW TO A SURPRISING EXTENT HAS THAT CAPABILITY.
AND SO WHEN WE DO VIRTUAL TOWN HALLS, THEY'RE OPTIMIZED SO THAT PEOPLE WITH HEARING IMPAIRMENTS OR VISUAL IMPAIRMENTS CAN STILL GET IN AND ACCESS THE INFORMATION THERE'LL BE MULTI-LINGUAL, UH, AT LEAST BILINGUAL.
AND, UH, THEY ARE SCALED SO THAT YOU CAN USE A COMPUTER AT HOME KNOWING THAT NOT EVERYBODY HAS A COMPUTER, YOU CAN ALSO GET THE SAME KIND OF EXPERIENCE ON JUST A PHONE.
SO WE DID DECIDE TO DO A VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE.
WOULD WE DO IT ON SPECIFIC DAYS? OF COURSE I WAS RIGHT THERE IN SPECIFIC TIMES TO WHERE WE COULD GO LIVE AND THEN WE CAN GO LIVE ON CHANNEL 10 AS WELL.
I MEAN, TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN YOU'RE ON YOUR PHONE.
AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU GOT AN ALERT, HEY, ROAD, BOND, VIRTUAL MEETING STARTING RIGHT NOW, CLICK AND THEN BOOM, YOU'RE IN.
I'LL LET CURA TALK ABOUT THAT IN MORE DETAIL.
SO WHAT WE FOUND WORKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER INSTEAD OF HAVING A VIRTUAL MEETING THAT HAPPENS AT A SPECIFIC TIME IT'S LIVE AND YOU GET THE SAME EXPERIENCE AS YOU WOULD ADD AN IN-PERSON MEETING, BUT YOU GET IT ON YOUR OWN TIME.
SO YOU CAN DO IT AT 7:00 PM ON A TUESDAY, OR YOU CAN DO IT AT 2:00 AM, AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME KIND OF EXPERIENCE.
INSTEAD OF SOMEONE LEADING THE MEETING, WE'D START WITH A VIDEO THAT CAN WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS, EDUCATE THEM.
AND THEN IF WE CHOOSE, WE CAN HAVE VOTING EXERCISES THING, INTERACTIVE THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE IN.
BUT THE IDEA WE, WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO HAVE THESE OPEN FOR ABOUT A WEEK TO 10 DAYS, RIGHT HERE, WE'VE DESIGNED IT TO GO THROUGH A SOLID WEEK AND PEOPLE CAN DO IT AT ANY TIME DURING THAT WEEK.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR YES, IT DOES.
I GUESS IT'S JUST THAT WHENEVER WE HAVE IN-PERSON NONONO, COVID SENSITIVE.
IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEY LOOK AT THEIR ROAD, THIS IS THE ROAD WHERE I LIVE.
SOMEBODY HAS A QUESTION, THEY CAN BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ANSWER RIGHT THEN AND THERE YOU HAVE THAT ONE-ON-ONE PERSONAL CONNECTION.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT, BUT THANK YOU.
I HAVE A KIND OF SIMILAR QUESTION.
SO WHEN YOU GUYS ARE HOLDING THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE, IS THAT GOING TO BE HELD HERE IN CITY HALL? SO IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE A FACEBOOK LIVE EVENT OR SOMETHING.
IT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE WOULD JUST EXIST ON THE WEBSITE.
IT WOULDN'T BE HELD IN A SPECIFIC PLACE.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WOULD, WOULD JUST EXIST ON THE WEBSITE.
IT'S LIKE GOING TO A WEBSITE, WATCHING A VIDEO, PARTICIPATING IN SOME EXERCISES, BUT IT'S NOT BROADCAST FROM A PLACE.
BECAUSE MY QUESTION WILL BE, HOW ARE RESIDENTS GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS IN THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE AND WHO IS GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO THOSE QUESTIONS? SO WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS THAT, UM, RESIDENTS COULD ASK QUESTIONS CURRENTLY ON THE WEBSITE, WHETHER OR NOT THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSES OPEN, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A CONTACT SUBMISSION FORM ON KYLE BONDS.COM.
SO AT ANY TIME BEFORE THE ELECTION, THEY CAN ASK A QUESTION IN THAT VIRTUAL OPEN
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HOUSE.THERE WILL BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS, AND WE'LL BE ASKING PEOPLE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
THOSE QUESTIONS WOULD FIRST BE ANSWERED BY OUR TEAM.
IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T ANSWER OR REQUIRES SOME EXPERTISE FROM CITY STAFF, WE'LL BE PASSING THOSE ON TO RACHEL AND JERRY, AND THEY CAN FARM THOSE OUT HOW THEY WISH BECAUSE TO ME, THE VIRTUAL OPEN HOUSE IS BASICALLY DOING A VIDEO WITH AN EXPLANATION THAT I CAN PUT ON YOUTUBE AND IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR A WEEK.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A VIRTUAL TOWN HALL IS A LIVE EVENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN YOU CAN REWATCH THE VIDEO WITH THE ANSWERS, TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED DURING THE LIVE EVENT.
I WORKED FOR A COMPANY THAT HAS VIRTUAL TOWN HALLS ALL THE TIME.
AND MY ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS, GET ANSWER AT THE MOMENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL ACTUALLY MAKE AN IMPACT.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST A VIDEO.
UM, AND SO FOR THE IN PERSON ONE, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE, AS IT WILL HAVE TO BE ON A WEEKEND TO BE MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE REALLY ADVERTISE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT USE SOCIAL MEDIA TO BE ABLE TO COME AND WHAT WE HAVE DURING THE IN-PERSON EVENT, SOMEBODY THAT SPEAKS SPANISH.
YES, WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS SPANISH AT THE IN-PERSON EVENT.
UM, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM ARE BILINGUAL, NOT ME, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM WILL BE THERE WHO CAN SPEAK IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
UM, AND JUST TO GO BACK TO YOUR POINT, WE'VE DONE IT BOTH WAYS.
WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD LIVE EVENTS THAT THEN GET REBROADCASTS THAT LIVE ON THE WEBSITE.
WE'VE JUST FOUND IN OUR EXPERIENCE THAT WE GET HIGHER ENGAGEMENT AND HIGHER LEVELS, HIGHER NUMBERS OF PARTICIPATION.
WHEN WE DO IT AS SOMETHING THAT CAN LIVE FOR, YOU KNOW, A WEEK AT A TIME, AND PEOPLE CAN GO GO TO IT AND THEIR ANSWERS, THEIR QUESTIONS AREN'T ANSWERED IN REAL TIME, BUT WE FOUND THAT WE HAVE, UM, GOOD WAYS OF ANSWERING THEIR QUESTIONS AND GETTING FEEDBACK BACK TO THEM AS WELL.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT IDEAL IN MY, MY OPINION.
UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS IF WE CAN HAVE THAT VIRTUAL VIDEO, UM, CAN IT BE DONE BEFORE THE OPEN HOUSE, THE PER IN-PERSON OPEN HOUSE AWAY, WHOEVER WATCHES, THE VIDEO HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THEY CAN COME OVER AND MAYBE ADVERTISING PERSON IN THAT VIDEO.
SO WHAT WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO DO IS WE LIKE TO MIMIC WHAT, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE VIRTUAL TOWN HALL IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING AS YOU WOULD SEE IN A LIVE TOWN HALL MEETING.
SO THE SAME KIND OF BOARDS AND PRESENTATIONS, YOU WOULD SEE, YOU CAN WALK THROUGH THOSE.
AND THEN WE LIKE TO HAVE THAT VIDEO RUNNING AT THE IN-PERSON EVENT AS WELL.
SO IF YOU COME IN PERSON OR YOU COME VIRTUALLY, YOU'RE GETTING THE SAME OR A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE AS WE CAN REPLICATE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED IN THE CHANGE OF THE DATES AND THE OPEN HOUSE AND THE IN PERSON? I'M SORRY, I WILL.
DO YOU GUYS CONSIDER TO CHANGE THE DATES INSTEAD OF HAVING ON A THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH? CAN IT BE DONE ON A SATURDAY? OH, CERTAINLY.
I KIND OF WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT BECAUSE I KIND OF AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER PARTIALLY WHAT SHE'S SAYING ABOUT THE LIVE ELEMENT OF A VIRTUAL TOWN HALL THAT WAS IN MY HEAD, JUST BECAUSE OUR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE, UH, WITH THE BOND, IT DID HAVE A STRONG, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER BOND HAD A STRONG PUBLIC, UH, VIRTUAL, UM, UH, TOWN HALL FEEL WHERE YOU COULD GO.
AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, AN INTERESTING ELEMENT THERE.
UH, AND THERE WAS DEFINITELY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REAL-TIME FEEDBACK AND Q AND A'S AND THEN THERE WAS MODERATOR.
AND SO THAT THE QUESTIONS KIND OF CAME FILTERED TO THE, TO THE PRESENTER SO THAT IT WASN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, ANY FIELDING, ANY NUMBER OF QUESTIONS, BUT IT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW YOUR ANSWER ABOUT THAT.
THE OTHER WAY IS THERE, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD DO BOTH? BECAUSE MY, MY GENERAL THOUGHT IS PRETTY MUCH WHY DON'T WE JUST DO ALL OF IT BECAUSE NOBODY REALLY KNOWS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE MOST PR YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMEONE LIKES TO THE GOLIVE ELEMENT.
MAYBE SOMEONE LIKES THE PRE YOU KNOW, PRERECORDED VIDEO WITH LOTS OF CONDENSED.
I WOULD PREFER THE CONDENSED VERSION MYSELF.
IF I WAS GOING TO TRY TO GET INFORMED.
IN FACT, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO.
IF IT WAS OVER LIKE TWO MINUTES, I WOULD GO TO THE FAQ'S SO THAT I COULD GO FASTER, BUT THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OWN WAY TO GET TO THE INFORMATION.
SO CAN WE DO A VIRTUAL LIVE TOWN HALL WITH IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE? AND I MEAN, IT'S, WE CAN KIND OF GO BACK AND BRAINSTORM WAYS TO KIND OF CREATE SOME SORT OF HYBRID APPROACH IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WOULD PREFER.
UM, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT CASPER FLOURISH COUNT.
UM, I, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MAPS THAT GO AROUND.
I THINK EVERYBODY HERE CAN AGREE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT AS A COUNCIL.
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IF YOU GUYS HAVE GAPPED STRATEGIES CAN NOT PROVIDE THAT FOR US.I THINK WE CAN LOOK TO OUR CITY AND THAT THEY CAN AT LEAST PUT IT UP AT THE SCHOOLS AND THE DIFFERENT AREAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING PEOPLE WATCH A VIDEO IS PEOPLE TO BE THERE AND TO INTERACT.
THAT'S OUR JOB AS ELECTED OFFICIALS TO GO AND TALK TO THESE PEOPLE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THEIR, THEIR DEMANDS AND THEIR NEEDS.
AND SO MY HOPE IS IF YOU GUYS CAN'T DO IT, I HAVE NO DOUBT.
JERRY CAN AT LEAST PUT THE POSTERS UP DIFFERENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS WHERE, UM, THE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE A BIG BENEFIT, DIRECT BENEFIT TO THOSE RESIDENTS.
AND SO, UM, IF WE COULD HAVE LEON ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS AS WELL, I WOULD BUY HIM DINNER, UM, UM, ON MY DIME.
UM, UH, CAUSE I THINK WE NEED THAT.
AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US HERE HAS SAT HERE AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
AND SO IF, IF YOU GUYS CAN'T PROVIDE IT TO US, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
WE CAN JUST HAVE THE CITY DO IT.
HOWEVER YOU NEED TO, FOR ME, I NEED VIRTUAL.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO VIRTUAL, I WANT THAT TO BE LIVE WITH RESIDENTS, ASKING QUESTIONS, TYPING IN QUESTIONS.
IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS BOND, WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.
AND SO FOR ME, THAT IS A MINIMUM OF WHAT I NEED TO SEE.
I THINK YOU ALL GET TO DECIDE HOW YOU WANT YOUR VIRTUAL.
I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY KEPT GOING BACK AND FORTH.
AND SO I'M JUST SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
SO THERE ARE TWO SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ISSUES THERE.
ONE WOULD BE PUTTING UP NAPS AT A, AT A LOCATION.
SO WE'RE GLAD TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF OR HELP WITH THAT.
THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE THAN HOW YOU DO THE VIRTUAL.
WE'RE HERE TO TAKE YOUR DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WANT A VIRTUAL AND FEEDING TO DO.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LITERATURE AND THE DATA, YOU TYPICALLY, MAYBE NOT ALWAYS, YOU TYPICALLY GET MORE PEOPLE AND MORE INVOLVEMENT IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE DESCRIBING, BUT EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT.
AND WE'RE GLAD TO WORK ON THE HYBRID THAT YOU DISCUSSED OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WORKS BEST FOR THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU OUR BEST PROFESSIONAL ADVICE AND WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN AND LEARN FROM YOU GUYS WHO KNOW THE CITY BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.
SO YOUR, YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND ADVICE IS NOTED AND RESPECTED.
SO I DON'T WANT TO, UH, I DON'T WANT US TO SAY, OH, CAUSE WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT, HOW TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS.
WHEN I HAVE SEEN MANY TOWN HALLS AND MEETINGS GET 5, 6, 7 PEOPLE, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ENGAGE 15,000, THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS THING.
SO THE PROFESSIONALS HAVE WAYS AND METRICS TO DETERMINE THAT.
SO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE FEEL REALLY GOOD.
WE REALLY LIKE IT WHEN WE GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK THOSE FOLKS WHO MAYBE WOULD ACTUALLY DRIVE TO A TOWN HALL, THEY MAY BE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THERE'S MULTIPLIER EFFECTS OF THOSE PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T JUST DRIVE IN AND GO HOME AND NOT TALK TO ANYONE.
THEY, THEY SHARE HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF ENGAGEMENT AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANT IT TO BE BOTH HAND, NOT EITHER, OR I DON'T WANT YOU TO SAY, OH, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, A GOOD THREE MINUTE VIDEO COULD IN, COULD INTERACT WITH 1500, 2000, 3,005,000 PEOPLE.
WHEREAS A TOWN HALL MAY NOT GET NEARLY THAT MUCH REACH.
CAN WE DO A TED TALK? AND THAT'S FINE.
A THIRD, A THREE-MINUTE TECH-TALK EVERYBODY WOULD WATCH THAT FOR SURE.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, AND I'M NOT SAYING IT HAS TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE IS EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY HAS SAID IS PUTTING THESE MAPS UP.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE THERE AT ALL OF THEM, BUT BECAUSE I, I GET IT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE LONG FOR AS A COUNCIL, BUT I'M HOPING THAT AT LEAST THE CITY WILL BE THERE AND WE CAN EXPLAIN AND WE CAN INTERACT.
AND WE COULD REALLY TRY TO DRIVE THIS BOND.
NOT THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT CAUSE WE'RE NOT, BUT IN THE EVENT WE CAN GET MORE VOTERS AND TALK TO THEM.
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
WHERE'S YOUR CERTAINLY ALLOWED TO DRIVE PARTICIPATION, NOT TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THE, WHAT THEIR OUTCOME OR THEIR DECISION IS, BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY TO TRY AND DRIVE PARTICIPATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SO THAT YOU GET THAT.
AND I HOPE WE DIDN'T LEAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING VIRTUAL ONLY BECAUSE WE REALLY BELIEVE IN THIS MULTI-CHANNEL APPROACH, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME IN-PERSON MEETINGS, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO REACH OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ON TRADITIONAL MEDIA, IN THE LOCAL PRESS AND THROUGH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.
IF YOU GO BACK TO, WHEN WE INTERVIEWED WITH YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BELIEVE IN REACHING OUT TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, GIVING THEM INFORMATION FOR THEIR MEMBERS OR FOR THEIR MEETINGS, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY ON FAIRS AND LOCAL FESTIVALS.
UM, AND, AND, AND REALLY TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO POINT WELL TAKEN, AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEIR STAFF.
CAUSE YOU, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB ON THOSE MAPS AND ALL OF Y'ALL DONE SO MUCH GREAT WORK ON THIS AND IT'S, IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE THAT TO THE RESIDENTS.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GETTING AT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THE MAPS, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING
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VISIBLE, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT WHERE WE CAN TAKE IT AROUND THE CITY AND LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PARSI SAYS.WE CAN ALSO DO IT IN SPANISH AS WELL, AND REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS JUST AS MUCH.
IT'S JUST BEING ABLE TO SHOW YOUR WORK AND THEN ALSO PUSH THE AGENDA TO WHERE IT'S LIKE, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY.
AND THEN THAT WAY, AGAIN, THE MOST INFORMED VOTER IS THE BEST VOTER I WOULD SAY, TRYING TO REACH TO THE HOS WILL BE BIG DEAL.
YOU KNOW, MOST THEY CHOICE HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER.
IF, IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY AS A CITY THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET ENGAGED WITH HOS AND HAVE A EVENING THAT WE CAN INVITE THE RESIDENTS THAT WILL MAKE A BIG IMPACT BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY MAY KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT IF WE JUST REACH OUT TO THE HOS CHOICE TO SPREAD THAT EMAIL, HEY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS GOING TO BE HERE TALKING ABOUT THE BOND.
I JUST, AS COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE, AS WE'RE SAYING, I WANT BORDERS TO BE EXTREMELY INFORMED.
I DON'T WANT THEM TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT.
SO, UM, I FEEL THE MORE INFORMATION, THE BETTER THE VOTE AMPUTEE.
I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY OUT HERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SCHOOLS ARE GONNA REACT.
I KNOW THEY'RE SHUT DOWN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THE PROTOCOLS ARE FALLING RIGHT NOW AFTER COLUMBINE.
UM, YOU'VE ALREADY, SORRY YOU GOT ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, AFTER YOU'VE ALL DAY, THEY'VE SHAMED THE PROTOCOLS DOWNS, BUT WE DO HAVE PUBLIC OFFICES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF KYLE THAT WE COULD UTILIZE.
THE OTHER THING WE HAVE IS OUR EVENTS.
SO DURING EARTH, DAY OF LAST YEAR, WE TOOK A STUDY OUT THERE, UH, ON OUR DOWNTOWN ASSESSMENT.
AND WE GOT A GREAT RESPONSE DURING OUR EVENTS.
SO BRINGING THIS TO OUR EVENTS AS WELL, WE'VE GOT PINE TO SKY COMING UP, ANY EVENTS WE'VE GOT OUR FOUNDER'S DAY PARADE, ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE COMING UP, LET'S PUT A BOOTH OUT THERE AND GET, GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE VOTERS AND THE RESIDENCE.
YES, THAT'S DEFINITELY ON OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH PLAN FOR THIS.
WE PLANNED ON HAVING BOOTHS AVAILABLE WITH INFORMATION FOR VOTERS AND RESIDENTS ALIKE FOR THE 20, 22 ROAD BOND, UM, A PRINCIPAL POSTCARD, SO TO SPEAK WITH INFORMATION THAT PUSHES THEM TO THE WEBSITE, AS WELL AS JUST SPEAKING TO THEM AND HAVING KIND OF THOSE INFORMATION BOARDS OUT.
SO, UH, MORE THAN ANYTHING, I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS KIND OF WHAT DATES WOULD WORK FOR COUNCIL FOR CERTAIN EVENTS, UH, THE VIRTUAL PARTS, NOT SO MUCH, BUT THE IN-PERSON, IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO BE PRESENT, UH, WE'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF SUSS OUT WHAT DATES WOULD WORK BEST FOR Y'ALL AND JUST KIND OF GO AROUND THAT AND, UH, HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE AS THE ELECTEDS AND WHATNOT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T DECIDE.
DID YOU, DID WE GIVE YOU DIRECTION? Y'ALL BACK TO THEM AND THEN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU, WE GAVE YOU THE RIGHT ANY WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU NEEDED BECAUSE I HAVE THE DATES WRITTEN DOWN AND I WANT TO, WE'RE NOT DOING THOSE NOW.
UM, I AM DEFINITELY OPEN FOR DIRECTION FOR WHAT DATES WOULD WORK BEST FOR COUNCIL? NO, I LIKE THE OCTOBER 3RD THROUGH THE NINTH.
I'M NOT GOING TO THAT CONFERENCE, SO I'LL BE, BUT THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, EVERYBODY ELSE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE TOO ABOUT OCTOBER 1ST, THAT SATURDAY.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING CODES THAT WOULD WORK OVER THAT.
SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A, FOR THE IN-PERSON OPEN HOUSE VERSUS THE THURSDAY JOB, BECAUSE THAT WAY, AFTER A LONG DAY'S WORK, I'M SURE.
AND HAVING HAVEN'T STAYED LATE AND THEN HAVING IT ON THE FIRST OF THE MONTH OF THE COUNCIL MEETING THAT MONDAY, OCTOBER 3RD, I BELIEVE.
SO MAYBE THAT SATURDAY, OCTOBER 1ST, UH, GAP STRATEGIES IS AVAILABLE OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THAT SATURDAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE A VIABLE OPEN HOUSE IN PERSON.
UH, DO YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE IT AT CITY HALL OR DO Y'ALL WANT US TO TRY TO FIND A LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE AND MAYBE A LOCATION ON THE WEST SIDE AND TRY TO, I THINK THAT, I THINK HAVING THE FIRST ONE HERE, BUT THEN IN OTHER AREAS, YOU KNOW, WORKING OUT, SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE CITY HALL SATURDAY MORNING, WE CAN PUSH IT OUT WAY AHEAD OF TIME AND THEN HAVE EVERYBODY HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE HERE.
IF WE CAN MAYBE GET CITY STAFF
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THAT IS FAMILIAR WITH THE ROADS TO BE HERE FOR A COUPLE HOURS, MAYBE NINE TO 12 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, NOT TO ALREADY KNOW TOO LATE, BUT IT GIVES PEOPLE A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO WALK IN, SEE THE MAPS, ASK THE QUESTIONS AND COME AND GO AS THEIR LEISURE.IF YOU WON'T BE AN ALL DAY THING WILL BE MORNING.
UH, WE'LL GO WITH OCTOBER 1ST, SATURDAY, IF THAT WORKS FOR COUNCIL AND THEN WE WILL WORK OUT SOME OTHER DATES FOR OTHER OPEN HOUSES AND, UH, GO FROM THERE.
AND I KNOW FOR THE VIRTUAL ONE, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE HERE BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY.
SO THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE HERE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE IN-PERSON VIRTUAL THAT'S AIRED.
WE'LL HAVE TO USE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR SURE.
[5.
Consideration and possible action to approve 1-Year Landscape Maintenance at Heroes Memorial Park in an amount not to exceed $90,059.00. ~ Ryan Rosborough, AG|CM
* $90,059.00 = $70,059.00 (In Contract Landscaping Per Attached Quote) + $20,000 (Out of Contract Allowance for Additional Landscaping Options for Parks Dept. Consideration Throughout the Year)
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A ONE-YEAR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AT HERO HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $90,059.
ROSEBORO HIS ITEM, MR. HARDING, DAVID HARDING, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UH, YOU GAVE US SOME HOMEWORK LAST TIME AND WE'RE HERE TO DELIVER ON THAT.
UM, BEFORE I DO, UM, I HAVE WITH ME, MR. PHILLIP KOSKIE, WHO'S YOUR DESIGN PRINCIPLE WITH NUDGE DESIGN ON THIS PROJECT.
HE IS ONLINE PHILIPPI WITH ME.
SO WE'RE FIRST GONNA LET PHILLIP SPEAK TO, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF HIS EXPERIENCE SURROUNDING THIS AND A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THAT UP WITH OUR FINDINGS, UM, FROM OUR, OUR SUBSEQUENT PROPOSALS AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED TO BY COUNSEL LAST TIME.
AND WE WILL GIVE YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION FOLLOWING THIS, IF THAT'S OKAY.
I COULDN'T BE THERE IN PERSON.
I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RAIN THIS EVENING, WHICH TURNED OUT NOT TO BE TOO BAD.
UM, YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE PULLED TOGETHER, UH, A SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S CALIBRATED FOR THE PARK, AND THAT INCLUDES KIND OF A RANGE OF DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES, UH, RELATED TO ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF SYSTEMS AND PLANTS AND, AND CONDITIONS OUT THERE.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CADENCE.
MCSHANE IS THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND THEIR TRADE PARTNER IS PLAYING SCAPES IS A LARGE, VERY LARGE COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE CONTRACTOR IN THIS MARKET.
I DON'T KNOW, AS LONG AS I'VE WORKED IN TEXAS.
UM, AND THEY DO, YOU KNOW, ARE QUITE CAPABLE OF DOING A HUGE RANGE OF WORK.
UM, BUT THEY ARE THE INSTALLING SUBCONTRACTOR FOR THE PROJECT AND LANDSCAPES ARE, UH, ARE, ARE CHALLENGING TO, TO GET UP OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE THEY DON'T BEHAVE IN A RATIONAL WAY, RIGHT.
THEY'RE NOT PREDICTABLE NECESSARILY.
AND, AND WE HAVE TO MONITOR THEM AND UNDERSTAND THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES, SOME OF WHICH ARE, UH, FROM THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
SO IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IF POSSIBLE, TO HAVE THE TRADE PARTNER RESPONSIBLE, UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT AS YOUR MAINTENANCE PARTNER FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST 12 MONTHS, BECAUSE THIS PERSON AGAIN UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS, THE DESIGN INTENT, UH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH A TROUBLESHOOTING PROCESS IN JUST REALLY BEING ABLE TO FORECAST WHAT TYPES OF MAINTENANCE ARE NEEDED AND PERHAPS A IRRIGATION AND ALONE IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS.
JUST BEING, HAVING KIND OF A RUNNING START IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE LANDSCAPE NEEDS TO, TO, UH, THRIVE OR, UH, HOW THE SYSTEM EVEN WORKS FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT'S AT PLAY HERE IS THERE IS A WARRANTY PERIOD, UH, THAT IS TIED TO THE, THIS TRADE PARTNER, UH, FROM THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMPANIES MAY, UH, HONOR THIS WARRANTY.
UM, BUT I, I, I JUST TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE INSTALLING CONTRACTOR IS GOING, GOING TO HAVE A KIND OF NO STRINGS ATTACHED APPROACH TO THIS WARRANTY.
UH, THIS IS NOT AN INHERITED WARRANTY FOR THIS.
IT IS, UH, TIED TO THEIR SPECIFIC WORK.
UM, SO IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST YEAR, UH, THAT YOU RETAIN THE INSTALLING CONTRACTOR, UM, WHO IS, YOU KNOW, BEEN A VALUABLE PARTNER IN THIS PROJECT, UH, ALL THIS TIME, UH, TO HELP YOU FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
AND IF YOU, YOU WANT TO REASSESS THAT, UM, THAT RELATIONSHIP AFTER THE FIRST YEAR, I THINK YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO.
UM, HOW, HOWEVER, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THIS.
UH, SO IF THERE'S A QUESTIONS FOR ME OR DAVID, YOU'VE GOT OTHER STUFF I'LL, UH, STOP TALKING, CERTAINLY.
SO LET ME, I'LL, I'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY IF THAT'S OKAY.
UM, SO I, I WILL SAY, UH, YOUR HOMEWORK TO ME WAS TO KIND OF COME BACK WITH AN APPLES
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TO APPLES COMPARISON WITH BETWEEN THE TWO CONTRACTORS WERE LOOKING AT BRIGHT VIEW, UH, THE BEING THE ONE AND CLEAN SCAPES VIA CADENCE MACHINE FOR THE OTHER.AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS WAS TO ENGAGE BRIGHT VIEW, TO SEE IF THAT THEY WOULD BE, UM, RESPONSIBLE AND BE WILLING TO TAKE ON THE WARRANTY AS WELL.
UH, THOSE WERE THE TWO PRIMARY, I THINK, GOALS THAT COUNCIL HAD POSTED ME.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU HAVE TWO CAPABLE CONTRACTORS WHO WANT TO DO THIS WORK FOR YOU.
AND THEY BOTH CAME IN WITH EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE REVISED OFFERS.
AND SO ULTIMATELY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS A LITTLE, LITERALLY A $50 DIFFERENCE.
UM, THE, UH, THE SLIGHTLY LOWER BID, UH, CAME IN, UH, BRETT CAME IN, I'M SORRY, CLEAN SCAPES VIA CADENCE MCSHANE, UH, THE TOTAL AMOUNT BEING $58,539, UH, IN TOTAL FOR KEYNES MCSHANE TO CONTRACT THIS WORK TO CLEAN SCAPES WHO WILL THEN IN TURN CARRY THE ONE YEAR WARRANTY AT HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK.
AND THEN YOU HAD THE BRIGHT VIEW COMING IN AT A GRAND TOTAL OF $58,589.
SO A $50 DIFFERENCE, BUT, UH, AND I'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, A PARTIALLY THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SPENDING TAXPAYER'S MONEY THE RIGHT WAY.
SO I CANNOT, AS YOU UNDERSTAND, CAN NOT JUST TAKE THE FIRST BID AND SAY, WE'RE GOOD, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE WARRANTY AND THEY WANT IT IS GOING TO BE VALID.
I NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE MORE.
SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE THE TWO QUOTES, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE IT.
I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVING BOTH VALUES, BEING SO CLOSE GOING WITH THE COMPANY THAT HERD OR LANDSCAPING RIGHT NOW IN THERE.
I'M HAVING TO HELP BECAUSE WE WERE FORCED TO THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE THE, I COULDN'T FIND THE BACKUP IN THE BACKUP.
SO THESE WERE BOTH, UNFORTUNATELY THESE WERE BOTH SUBMITTED.
I THINK THE CUTOFF FOR THE SUBMISSIONS WERE FRIDAY.
THEY LITERALLY LITERALLY BUTTON GOT BOTH THESE REVISED PROPOSALS TODAY.
SO WE HAVE BOTH OF THESE AND WE WILL BE ABLE GET BOTH OF THESE TO IT'S.
THE, THE SCOPE OF WORK IS THE SCOPE THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS, CORRECT.
THEY'RE MATCHING THE DIRECTION AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHOW THAT TO ME AND I CAN JUST MAKE A VOTE.
SO I GUESS IT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING WHEN WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING TO TAKE A VOTE AND THIS IS COULD EASILY BE, YEAH, LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SEE THE INFORMATION.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING THAT, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO VOTE.
YES, BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE ON MY BEHALF AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO NOT AT LEAST LAY EYES ON IT.
UM, SO ARE WE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK WHEN WE CAN SEE THE DOCUMENT? I HAVE THEM, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT THIS ON HERE.
SO BEAR WITH ME, BUT LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS THING.
AND IF ANYONE HERE KNOWS HOW TO DO THIS, FEEL FREE TO COME UP AND ASSIST WELL AND JUST, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I'LL DO THIS LITERALLY RIGHT NOW.
IS IT, WOULD IT BE, SHOULD I STEP ASIDE AND DO THIS AND LET YOU MOVE ON OR SHOULD I JUST, JUST DO IT RIGHT NOW? YOU'RE GOOD.
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I'M READY TO GO.TECHNICALLY, TECHNICALLY NOT BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM TO CALL IT IN THE ORDER CALLED MEETING QUOTE, UM, THE CLEAN SCAPES.
WOULD YOU GUYS BE INCLUDING THAT? WILL THEY BE INCLUDING THAT? LET ME PULL UP THE, UH, SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE AND MAKE SURE I'M JUST LOOKING AT APPLES TO APPLES HERE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EDGING THE WALKWAYS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, LET'S SEE HERE.
SO FULL SERVICE TRIP, CUT, UH, CUT EDGE AND TRIM ENTIRE PROPERTY PURCHASE PER TRIP TO DO THAT.
IS IT, IS IT, IS IT OKAY IF I DO IT BECAUSE I WANT TO DIRECT THE FUNDS TO COMPETITORS TOO.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE CLEAN SCAPES BID AS PRESENTED BY MR. HARDING AND TO DIRECT STAFF, TO BRING A, UH, TO FUND THIS PROJECT USING REVENUES FROM, UH, TERS TO AS BUDGETED SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SO THIS IS THE SCHEDULE.
UH, THERE'S ANOTHER, YOU MUST THAT YOU WITH TWO ATTACHMENTS AND THOSE ARE THE TWO PROPOSALS, UM, JUST SHOW THEM.
BUT THOSE TWO SCHEDULES ARE ESSENTIALLY MIRRORS OF ONE ANOTHER IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY, THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
SO ONCE YOUR 54,000 A MONTH OR 60, UH, NO ONE IS FOUR 50, 8,000 5 89.
AND THE OTHER IS FOUR 50, 8,000 5 39.
SO THE 60 YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY WAS, THE ROOF WAS A DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
WE HAD, WE HAD, THEY BOTH PROVIDED REVISED PROPOSALS.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THEY JUST CAME TODAY, SO WE DIDN'T GET THEM, UH, INTO THE COUNCIL DOCUMENTS.
SO THIS IS THE ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM BRIGHT VIEW FOR A TOTAL OF 58, 5 89 40.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO LINE ITEMS THAT, THAT EQUAL THAT AMOUNT.
THIS IS JUST AN ASSESSMENT OF THE PARK.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE FIVE FIFTY FOUR PHONE, UH, SORRY, FIFTY EIGHT, FIVE EIGHTY NINE.
AND THEN THE OTHER WAS CADENCE MCSHANE FOR, UM, 58, 5 39.
SO LITERALLY 50, $50 AND 40 CENT DIFFERENCE.
WHEN DOES IT GIVE THE CASE MACHINE WHEN SHE DOESN'T GET THE WEEKLY AMOUNT? THE MONTHLY AMOUNT IS, UH, SO YES, THE MONTHLY AMOUNT IS BROKEN OUT.
WELL, THEY, THEY BREAK OUT IF YOU, SO IF YOU LOOK HERE IN THIS TABLE, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SMALL.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ABLE TO BE BLOWN UP, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL BREAKOUT OF THE 45 71.
SO TH TH AND THE THING TO NOTE HERE TOO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IF IT'S WORTH THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT INITIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING LONGTERM, UH, THE BREAKOUT HERE ON KANE'S, MCSHANE'S QUOTE, IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, IT, IT CAME IN A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE BRIGHT VIEW SCOPE, BUT YOU'RE ALSO HAVE A CANE, SOME CHAIN MARKUP, IF IN THE FUTURE, OVER THE COURSE OF DIXON, THIS NEXT YEAR, YOU'RE ABLE TO CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH CLEAN STAPES ESCAPES, THEIR ACTUAL, UM, THEIR ACTUAL, THEIR COST FOR THE YEAR IS 54, 8 54.
SO THEY'RE THEIR ACTUAL YEARLY COST AND MONTHLY COST IS GOING TO BE EVEN MORE, EVEN, EVEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN GREATER SAVINGS TO THE CITY THAN THE BRIGHT VIEW.
UM, QUOTE, THE BRIGHT VIEW QUOTE YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UH, PRIME CONTRACTOR MARKUP ON IT.
IT'S JUST STRAIGHT, STRAIGHT PRICING.
SO THE BRIGHT VIEW IS VERY DETAILED.
IT'S JANUARY AND HAS ALL THE DATES AND IT HAS THOUGHTS AROUND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
CAN YOU BRING UP THE OTHER SCHEDULE,
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UM, THAT I SENT YOU THAT, SO THAT, THAT WASN'T IN THAT WASN'T PART OF THE CANES MCSHANE, UM, THE WAY THAT, UH, KANE'S PICK SHANE WORKED IT UP, BUT WE HAVE A SUBSEQUENT SCHEDULE THAT IS AN ATTACHMENT TO IT.THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A CLEAN SCAPE SCHEDULE.
AND THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY IMAGES, MIRROR IMAGES OF EACH OTHER AND WHAT THEY DO.
UM, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP SOON AND YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THEY JUST, THEY COULD KIND OF HAVE THERE'S BUILT INTO THE PROPOSAL.
UM, BUT WE HAVE THE SCHEDULE FROM CLEAN SCAPES IN TERMS OF WHAT IT INCLUDES COMING UP, COMING UP NEXT ON THE SCREEN HERE SAYING, YEAH, MAN.
SO THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR CLEAN SCAPE SERVICES.
SO INSTEAD OF THE DOTS, THEY ACTUALLY SHOW YOU THE DAYS.
UM, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY A, YOU KNOW, AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF THE BREAKDOWN.
AND THIS ONE, WASN'T A BACKUP.
I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE VOTE.
I DON'T THINK I CAN MOVE FORWARD.
IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR ME TO REVIEW THIS AND I KNOW IT'S GOING TO PASS, SO I'M OKAY WITH JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH THE VOTE.
ARE YOU OKAY TO CALL THE VOTE OR DO YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? I KNOW YOUR, YOUR, THE MOTION IS FOR THE TERS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S GOT TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, CORRECT? FOR NOW THAT MY UNDERSTANDING, NO, HE'S SHAKING HIS HEAD.
WE HAVE THE, WE'VE GOT THE TOURISM MONEY THERE.
MARIN COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, I'M PERVEZ, MY CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE FUNDS THAT WILL PAY THE INVOICE.
WHICHEVER CONTRACTOR YOU PICK WILL COME FROM CHURCH NUMBER TWO NON-GENERAL FUND.
SO HOW DID HERS NUMBER TO GET ANY MONEY IF THERE WAS NO BUSINESSES OR ANYTHING GENERATING TAX REVENUE, TRISH, NUMBER TWO IS WITHIN PLUM CREEK AREA.
WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTING REVENUES SINCE TERM TWO WAS CREATED.
OH, I THOUGHT TERS TOO WAS JUST THE AREA THAT WAS NOT DEVELOPED.
IT SPREADS OUT FURTHER THAN THAT.
AND THE COUNTY IS ALSO CONTRIBUTING.
SO SOLELY ON REAL PEREZ, I'M SORRY.
SO THE 58,000, UM, WOULD ACTUALLY BE COMING FROM COUNTY AND CITY, UH, CAPTURED TEXAS FROM THE TOURIST, CORRECT? YES.
SO THE CITY PORTION REALLY ISN'T AS HALF OF THAT.
AND I SHOULD MENTION AS WELL, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, UM, STILL BEING CONSIDERED.
UH, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY PHILLIP AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS ALSO TO INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL $20,000 CONTINGENCY TO THIS ITEM FOR, YOU KNOW, NOT IN CONTRACT ITEMS, ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, TREE SERVICE OR AN ADDITIONAL MULCH THAT IS AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION.
IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME, BUT THIS WILL COVER YOUR ONE-YEAR MAINTENANCE FOR SURE.
UM, IT'S JUST UP TO YOU, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO PROVIDE THAT CONTINGENCY IT FILL UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT MORE.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY, IF YOU'RE STILL ON WITH ME, I AM.
SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS PARK REPRESENTS MANY, ANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THE INABILITY TO BE ABLE TO REACT TO PROBLEMS WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARE REALLY A WAY TO QUICKLY LOSE CONTROL OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE SITE.
UM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF THIS.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS OR BREAKDOWNS THAT I ENCOUNTER WITH MAINTENANCE IS THE DURATION OR THE LACK OF ABILITY TO ACT QUICKLY TO RESOLVE PROBLEMS. SO, UH, ONGOING ISSUES RELATED TO SQUIRRELS, CHEWING UP IRRIGATION LINES, UH, FUNGUS ATTACKING TURF, GRASS, PLANT REPLACEMENT, D COMPACTION AFTER EVENTS, ALL OF THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AQUATIC ISSUES THAT ARE UNEXPECTED OR A BIG STORM THAT COMES IN AND YOU'VE GOT TO CLEAN EXTRA THINGS.
ALL OF THESE THINGS START TO KIND OF, UM, ADD UP ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY $20,000 OF MONEY AVAILABLE TO MOVE QUICKLY TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS. UM, AND THAT WHOEVER IS MANAGING THIS PARK IS ABLE TO, UH, EXECUTE LIMITED MAINTENANCE SCOPE, UH, IN A TIMELY FASHION.
THESE, THESE ITEMS I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR MAINTENANCE PROPOSAL.
UM, AND THERE ARE A GREAT MANY THINGS THAT WILL NEED TO HAPPEN, UM, THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR MONTHLY SERVICES.
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UM, SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION BASED ON YEARS OF DEALING WITH MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE AND FRANKLY WATCHING A LOT OF MUNICIPAL LANDSCAPES KIND OF NOSE DIVE, UM, WITH, WITH MAINTENANCE ISSUES.SO WITH THAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, UH, EXPECT CHANGE ORDERS COMING, CORRECT? BECAUSE A, IT SEEMS LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WE'RE GOING TO, IF YOU WERE GOING TO APPROVE IT AND HAVE OP YEAH, YOU WILL HAVE OPERATIONAL CHANGES AND CHALLENGES BECAUSE THIS IS A DYNAMIC LIVING PLACE.
UM, YOU WILL HAVE DYNAMIC CHALLENGES HEADED YOUR WAY EVERY MONTH, UH, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
AND THAT IS JUST PART OF THE, UH, MANAGING A GARDEN AND A LANDSCAPE.
AND I GUESS IT COMES BACK TO THE QUESTION AGAIN, UH, TO THE CITY MANAGER A YEAR GOES BY, WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THEM COME BACK AGAIN WITH ANOTHER PROPOSAL? OR ARE WE GOING TO FINALLY ASSIGN A PARKS AND REC CREW THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS? CAUSE IT CAN, I GUESS MY, MY MAIN THING IS WE'RE, THIS IS WHAT AN EIGHT, NINE, $10 MILLION FACILITY THAT I HAD ALREADY ASSUMED THAT WE ALREADY HAD THIS IN PLACE.
SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IF THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT IS ONLY JUST GOING TO COVER, MOWING THE GRASS, AND THEN NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE, LIKE YOU SAID, SQUIRRELS CHEWING UP THE WIRING AND THEN SOMETHING DIES.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CHANGE ORDER.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE FUNDING FOR THIS.
UH, WHEN, WHEN IS IT GOING TO BE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OFFICIALLY TAKING OVER FOR THAT AND THEN COVER THOSE COSTS? WELL, WE DO HAVE PLANS IN PLACE FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT IS GOING ON AT THAT PARK.
WE'LL BE TAKING THIS YEAR TO STUDY HOW THAT ARC LIVES AND BREATHES.
AND WHEN WE COME BACK WITH NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND BE ABLE TO BRING TO YOU A REVISED PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT PARK AT A GOLD STANDARD.
MY, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF WE'RE INTERESTED IS BECAUSE THE THING IS WE DON'T ADD THE CUSHION IN THERE RIGHT NOW, THEN WE WILL, UH, AND WE RUN INTO A PROBLEM.
AND ESPECIALLY IF IT'S TIMELY, IT WILL BE A SITUATION WHERE THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO MAKE A CALL.
AND THOSE FUNDS IS IF THEY'RE LESS THAN $15,000 TO FIX AN ISSUE, DO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
SO BY ADDING THE $20,000 TO THE CONTRACT, NOW WE ASSURE THAT THE FUNDS THAT GET SPENT COME OUT OF TURN NUMBER TWO, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE TERS TO PAY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT COME UP IN THE FIRST YEAR.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE A CONTRACT, IT WOULD BE MY DESIRE TO SEE THE 20,000 ADDED OUT OF TERMS NUMBER TWO FUNDS, BECAUSE THERE ARE AMPLE, UH, FUNDS AVAILABLE, UH, THERE'S CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF ANYONE'S EVER GONE TO LIKE BEST BUY AND BOUGHT A BRAND NEW IPOD AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, DO YOU WANT A WARRANTY ON THAT? AND YOU'RE LIKE, NOT REALLY.
AND I'M HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME ALREADY SPENDING THE 50, SOME ODD THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I HAVE FULL FAITH IN OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, JUST THE WAY THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY, UM, I THINK THEY COULD HANDLE IT.
I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO THROW OURSELVES INTO THAT SITUATION.
UM, I'M OKAY WITH APPROVING THE, THE ONE YEAR AND THAT'S PUSHING IT.
SO I CA I FIND IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO ADD ANOTHER $20,000.
AND I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, IF THERE IS A CHANGE ORDER OR IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT CONTINGENCY, UM, JUST, JUST TO KEEP THEM IN THERE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THIS WHOLE PARK IS GOING TO COST US FOR THE FIRST YEAR, SO WE CAN RIGHTLY PREPARE FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
AND SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE 20,000, BUT WITHOUT IT, YOU WOULD SUPPORT THE LANDSCAPE.
WELL, I WANT TO ADD TO, AND IT'S PROBABLY DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY, BUT IT IS WORTH NOTING BECAUSE WE ARE, WE ARE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION ON THIS PARK.
AND AT THIS POINT, I, I, YOU KNOW, I CAN ALL, BUT I MEAN, I NEVER, I NEVER LIKED TO GIVE GUARANTEES, BUT I'M QUITE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SEEING ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDERS AT THIS POINT.
UM, YOU ARE EXPECTED TO GET A, UH, JUST OVER $35,000 IN CONTINGENCY BACK OFF THIS PROJECT THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT.
UM, SO WHATEVER POT THAT ENDS UP IN, BUT JUST TO BE AWARE THAT THERE IS SOME MONEY IN A POT, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THE ENTIRE MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE PRESENTING FOR COUNCIL.
BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THERE IS MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE RETURNED TO THE, UH, FROM THE PROJECT BACK TO THE CITY.
UM, JUST OVER 35,000 AT THIS POINT.
UM, JUST, JUST SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF SO THAT YOU'RE,
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YOU KNOW, KIND OF, IF THAT HELPS COUNT THE COST, MAYBE PRO TIP.I JUST, I JUST WANT TO GET THIS CLEAR.
SO IF WE ADDED THE, SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $60,000, 30,000 WOULD BE THE CITY PORTION OF THAT $60,000 MAINTENANCE.
IF WE DID THE 20,000, WE'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT ANOTHER 10,000 ON THE CITY.
SO THE CITY WOULD BE 40,000 OUT OF THE TOURIST CORRECT AREA.
SO WE WOULD BE IN IT FOR 40,000, BUT IF WE DON'T DO THE 20,000, THEN WE'RE THE CITIES ON IT, ON THE HOOK, THE TOURIST, THE CITY GENERAL FUND IS ON THE HOOK FOR $15,000.
IF WE GET THOSE, THOSE COSTS REPAIRS.
AND THERE ARE MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT ARE STILL OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT OUR STAFF CAN DO FROM A LABOR STANDPOINT.
IT COULD JUST BE LIKE A BUSTED SPRINKLER, YOU KNOW, THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER, AND WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY.
IT'S A MUCH SMARTER FINANCIAL DECISION TO ADD THE 20,000 IN HERE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF KEEPING THE BURDEN OUT, COMPLETELY AWAY FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
BUT THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE'LL HAVE TO FIX THE ASU NO MATTER WHAT.
SO CUSTOMER PARSLEY, THANK YOU.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SHOWING ME HERE, THE QUOTE, RIGHT? WITH EVERYTHING THAT ENTITLES, WHEN YOU GO TO A BAKERY AND YOU ASK FOR WEDDING CAKE, CAUSE I USED TO BE A BAKER.
I GAVE A QUOTE, WHETHER I MESSED UP THE CAKE, THAT'S ON ME.
SO BECAUSE WE HAVE A WARRANTY, RIGHT.
AND WE, IF WE HAVE PROVED THIS, WE ALREADY HAVE THE WARRANTY.
WE DON'T NEED THE OTHER 20,000.
YOU'RE LAYING OUT THE SCOPE OF THE SERVICES THAT IS GOING TO BE OFFER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OFFER.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ALL AT 20,000, I WILL NOT GO FOR THE OTHER 20,000.
SO IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THERE? WE GOT A MOTION AND WE GOT A SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO ONE NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER
[6. Discussion and possible action of employment retainment issues. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
SIX, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF EMPLOYMENT, RETAINMENT ISSUES, CUSTOMER FOR SCALE.SO, SO THE CITY'S PRACTICE OF, UM, ASKING EMPLOYEES TO QUIT OR RESIGN IN LIEU OF TERMINATION HAS CREATED A GREAT CAUSE OF CONCERN IN RETAINING THE EMPLOYEES.
THE CITY SHOULD NEVER PLACE AN EMPLOYEE IN THE POSITION TO QUIT OR BE FIRED.
I'D LIKE TO OPEN A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE CITY'S PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH IS A PIP, THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.
AND BEFORE I BEGIN, I HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING SECTION 7.03, UH, TERMINATION INTERVIEW AND FINAL PAY.
SO IF WE COULD EITHER, I THINK AT ONE POINT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED PAGE TO ANSWER ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT IF WE COULD HAVE THE HR DIRECTOR, SO I THOUGHT THAT YOUR, YOUR POST WAS GOING TO BE IN REGARDS TO INCENTIVIZING RETAINING EMPLOYEES AS THEY WERE.
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE PRETTY POINTED PERSONNEL ISSUES.
YOU ARE JUST RETAINING RETAINING EMPLOYEES.
THAT'S THAT WAS MY, UM, WHOLE LIKE PROVE WHATEVER REASON THERE'S A HUGE CURRENT TURNOVER RATE.
AND SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ALONG THE LINE IN THE POLICY, THIS, THAT WE, AS COUNCIL NEEDS TO REVIEW, OR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
BUT YOU'RE SPEAKING, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO A TERMINATION IN, UH, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO, UM, RESIGNATION IN LIEU OF TERMINATION AND INCITING SPECIFICS OR MAKING POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS TOWARDS SPECIFIC SITUATIONS.
WE CAN'T USE THAT AS A BASIS IT'S TO MY ATTENTION.
SO IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT, I WOULD NOT HAVE LOOKED AT THE POLICY.
SO I WENT AND I LOOKED AT IT A COUPLE OF RESIGNATION LETTERS, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN RETAIN THESE AT THE STAFF.
AND IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THAT PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY EX THEY WERE, IT WAS TOLD TO US THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE LEAVING AND THEY WANTED TO LEAVE.
BUT IN ACTUALITY, AFTER READING THEIR RESIGNATION LETTERS, THEY WERE ASKED TO LEAVE.
AND SO HOW DO WE RETAIN THOSE EMPLOYEES? THAT'S THAT IS, THAT IS A DIRECT PERSONNEL ISSUE THAT IS IN, IN THE RULES OF COUNSEL AND SOMETHING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT, OKAY, THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE POLICY AND FIGURE OUT, I DON'T KNOW, CAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES THAT I THINK WE CAN IMPROVE TO RETAIN THE EMPLOYEES.
SO THE FIRST ONE WAS GOING TO BE WHY I HAD QUESTIONS.
UM, I THINK ONE IS, ONE IS ILLEGAL AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FINAL PAY.
SO IF PAIGE WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND CHIME IN, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT OKAY.
SO, UM, FOR SECTION 7.03, I SEE IN THE CITY'S PERSONNEL POLICY, UM, IT SAYS THE EMPLOYEE'S TERMINATION INTERVIEW ON FINAL CHECK
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WILL BE RECEIVED FROM THE HR DIRECTOR OR APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT HEAD.THE FINAL PAYCHECK WILL BE CALCULATED AND PROVIDED AS PART OF THE NEXT ENSUING PAYROLL PERIOD.
SO, UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS THERE SOME REASON THAT THE CITY IS EXEMPT FROM THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION RULES? NO.
I MEAN, THAT'S A BROAD, A BROAD QUESTION AND THE ANSWER IS GENERALLY NO.
SO, UM, ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION, THE FINAL PAY, IT SAYS, UM, FINALLY THE TEXAS PAYDAY LAW REGULATES THE TIMING OF THE FINAL PAYCHECK IN SECTION 61.014.
IF AN EMPLOYEE IS LAID OFF, DISCHARGED, FIRED, OR OTHERWISE INVOLUNTARY SEPARATED FROM EMPLOYMENT, THE FINAL PAY IS DUE WITHIN SIX CALENDAR DAYS OF THE DISCHARGE.
SO ALL I WANT IS IT THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED FOR ONE IN THE POLICY BECAUSE, AND I JUST HAPPENED TO SKIM THROUGH THAT AND REALIZE IT.
IF SOMEONE GETS PAID ON A, ON A PAYDAY, WE SHOULD, THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE HOLDING THAT CHECK FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS, ACCORDING TO THE POLICY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, THE POLICY STATES THAT WE HOLD IT UNTIL THE NEXT ENSUING PAYROLL PERIOD.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF PAIGE, I DON'T KNOW WHO FIXES THAT, BUT FOR LEGAL REASONS, THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE ADDRESSED.
SANDRA DURAN, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND I DO WANT TO SAY THAT ANYBODY THAT IS TERMINATED GETS PAID WITHIN THREE DAYS FOR THEIR FINAL PAYCHECK.
SO CAN WE UPDATE OUR POLICY TO REFLECT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BECAUSE IT'S THE LAW, BUT ARE WE GOOD? RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL, IF IT'S THE LAW, THEN EVEN MORE REASON THAT IT SHOULD BE IN OUR POLICY BECAUSE YOU'RE IMPLYING THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
I'M JUST SAYING SKIMMING THROUGH THIS, I ASKED YOU DIRECTLY JUST IMPLIED THAT WE WAIT TWO WEEKS TO, IF THERE'S A DETERMINATION TO, IT SAYS YOU CAN, THE POLICY SAYS YOU CAN, DO YOU SEE HOW THAT'S CONFLICTING? NO.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE POLICY THAT YOU READ, WHERE IT SAYS THAT? SO IT IS UNDER TERMINATION, UM, TERMINATION INTERVIEW, THE EMPLOYEE'S TERMINATION INTERVIEW AND FINAL PAYCHECK WILL BE RECEIVED FROM THE HR DIRECTOR AND OR APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT HEAD.
THE FINAL CHECK WILL BE CALCULATED AND PROVIDED AS PART OF THE NEXT ENSUING PAYROLL PERIOD.
WHAT THEY'RE UM, WHAT THE POLICY IS TALKING ABOUT IS AN EXIT INTERVIEW.
WE DO AN EXIT INTERVIEW ON PEOPLE THAT LEAVE THE CITY SO WE CAN GET FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THE EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, THEIR SUPERVISOR, THE PERFORMANCE REVIEW EVALUATIONS, ET CETERA.
SO THAT IS WHAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT.
WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT EXIT INTERVIEW, WE'LL BE CALCULATED AND PROVIDED AS PART OF THE NEXT ENSUING PAYROLL THAT DOESN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE INTERVIEW.
SO WE PAY EVERYBODY ACCORDINGLY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND ACCORDINGLY TO THE POLICY ACCORDINGLY, EVERY PAY PERIOD, THEY GET PAID EVERY OTHER FRIDAY.
BUT THE FINAL CHECK SHOULD BE DIFFERENT.
AND IT STATES THE FINAL CHECK WILL BE CALCULATED AND PROVIDED AS PART OF THE NEXT ENSUING PAYROLL PERIOD.
SO THEY ARE PAID ON THE NEXT PAY PERIOD, RIGHT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT TWC TWC SAYS.
IF SOMEONE, UH, IS LET GO IS FIRED, THEY NEED TO GET PAID WITHIN THREE TO SIX DAYS AT THE LATEST.
AND THIS IS UNDER TERMINATION TERMINATION.
THERE JUST MEANS SEPARATION OF THE CITY, NOT TERMINATION AND BAD TERMS. OKAY.
SO, SO ALL OUR TERMINATIONS ON OUR SYSTEM THERE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLED TERMINATIONS.
IT JUST MEANS SEPARATION FROM THE CITY.
WELL, NO, TAMMY TECHNICALLY SEPARATION IS DIFFERENT THAN TERMINATION.
THAT'S NOT THE VOCABULARY THAT WE USE CURRENTLY.
TERMINATION IS EVERYBODY THAT SEPARATES FROM THE CITY.
AND IS THAT IN THE POLICY AS WELL? LIKE THERE SHOULD BE DEFINITIONS.
IS THERE, IT'S JUST, UH, AN HR VOCABULARY.
I MEAN, IT IT'S ALL THE, WELL, THIS IS FOR, UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND THE EMPLOYEES.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
I DON'T WANT TO POLICY EVER WITH THE CITY, WHERE IS THAT DEPARTMENT THAT UNDERSTANDS IT? I WANT IT TO BE SIMPLE FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND IS MY GOAL.
UM, SO ONE WAY TO RETAIN, I THINK IS A GREAT POLICY THAT THE CITY HAS IS THE PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT POLICY.
AND SO I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND A, UM, PROCEDURE AND IN, IN THE PALL, IN THE CITY'S POLICY.
AND SO I WASN'T SURE HOW THE PIP SHOULD WORK.
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PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS NOT PART OF THE PERSONNEL POLICY.IT'S CONSIDERED A DEVELOPMENTAL PLAN OR A PLAN THAT'S PUT IN PLACE TO IMPROVE THE PERSON'S PERFORMANCE, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF OUR CURRENT POLICY RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INCLUDED.
SO THAT WAY WE GIVE FAIRNESS AND EQUITY TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND THEY ALL, THEY WILL ALL HAVE THE SAME EXPECTATION, UM, ON, ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO IMPROVE.
CAUSE FOR ME, CREATING JOBS, SAFE SAFETY FOR THE EMPLOYEES IS MOST IMPORTANT.
SO WHILE THEY WERE ON A PIP, I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE THEM FEAR FOR THEIR JOB OR, OR GET FIRED IN BETWEEN, UM, THEORY AND THE PIP.
I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROVIDE THE EFFORT, TO ALLOW THE EMPLOYEES, THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT PERFORMANCE ISSUES.
UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HATE TO SEE A PIP THAT SAYS YOU HAVE 30 DAYS AND THEN WE FIRE THEM WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
UM, SO I'D MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT.
AND I AM GOING TO EVENTUALLY MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A PIP POLICY.
SO WE ARE ALL AWARE AND HAVE THE SAME EXPECTATIONS, UM, NUMBER, SECTION 9.01, THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.
I FOUND THAT ESPECIALLY, UM, UPSETTING.
STEP NUMBER ONE IS AN EMPLOYEE TO AN IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR.
AND THEN THEY CAN, AFTER THAT THEY COULD GRIEVE FROM AN EMPLOYEE TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD STEP.
THREE'S AN EMPLOYEE TO AN HR DIRECTOR.
STEP FOUR IS AN EMPLOYEE TO A CITY MANAGER, WHICH I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT.
I THINK EVERY EMPLOYEE SHOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
HOWEVER, DIRECTORS DON'T HAVE THE SAME STEPS DIRECTORS ONLY HAVE, UM, HR DIRECTOR AND THEN CITY MANAGER.
THEY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME STEPS.
SO I WOULD STILL, ME AS AN HR DIRECTOR WILL GRIEVE TO MY SUPERVISOR AND THEN FORWARD.
SO A DIRECTOR SAY A DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, WHO'S THEIR IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR CURRENTLY, IT WOULD BE AN ACM.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN GO TO THE ACM.
AND THEN THE END OF THE CITY MANAGER, THEY CAN GO TO THEIR DIRECT SUPERVISOR AND THEN TO THE HR AND THEN THE CITY MANAGER.
SO THEY HAVE THREE STEPS INSTEAD OF FOUR, CORRECT.
SO, UM, AND I KNOW UNLESS THE GRIEVANCE IS ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER, UM, THEY ONLY, THEY HAVE ONE LESS STEP.
SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE, TO HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO RETAIN THESE EMPLOYEES, UM, MAYBE SECTION 9 0 5, UM, SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO INCLUDE COUNCIL.
I KNOW AT ONE POINT, UM, WE HAD DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, A CHARTER CHANGE, UM, WHICH WE ALL KIND OF FELT DIFFERENTLY ABOUT.
UM, BUT I THINK THIS MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY FOR COUNCIL TO LAY EYES ON THE TERMINATION OR SEPARATION OF A DIRECTOR.
UM, AND SO INSTEAD OF JUST GOING TO THE MAYOR OR THE ATTORNEY, IT COULD ALSO COME TO COUNCIL AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
SO WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU WANT TO COME TO COUNCIL? OKAY.
SO I WANT, WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE NOT RETAINING OUR STAFF, FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT THEY, FOR ONE HAVE A FAIR PROCESS AND THEY HAVE, UH, EITHER WITHIN THEIR PIP OR WITHIN THEIR GRIEVANCE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING HEARD AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT MISCOMMUNICATION, MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME IS GOING TO BE, UM, PROVIDING THOSE EMPLOYEES THE ABILITY TO CORRECT ANY PERFORMANCE ISSUES THEY HAVE.
AND THAT'S HERE IN SECTION 9.05.
SO IT STATES SCRUTINY SAYS AGAINST THE CITY MANAGER, GUARDIAN DISCRIMINATION, SEXUAL HARASSMENT, OR VIOLATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS MAY BE MADE TO THE MAYOR OR A CITY ATTORNEY.
THAT'S ONLY THE CITY MANAGER THOUGH.
SO, SO AGAIN, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS FOR A NORMAL EMPLOYEE, OH, THAT'S NOT A DIRECTOR, THERE'S FOUR STEPS.
HOWEVER, FOR A DIRECTOR THERE'S ONLY THREE STEPS.
UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME FOR LIKE, FOR AN ACM, THERE'D ONLY BE TWO STEPS.
SO THEY SHOULD STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO, I MEAN, IF, SO, SAY THEY'RE, UM, AN ACM WANTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR CITY MANAGER, THEN THEY THEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO THE MAYOR OR TO AN ATTORNEY.
WHEREAS OTHER PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT.
BUT AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT ROLE THE COUNCIL PLAYS IN DEALING WITH STAFF ISSUES
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WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION.AND SO THAT WAY, IF WE HAVE A PIP POLICY, WE, AS COUNCIL CAN LOOK AT THAT AND WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WELL THEY CHECKED UP ALL THESE BOXES, ALL THIS WAS DONE CORRECTLY.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EMPLOYEE THEMSELVES AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RETAINING THAT EMPLOYEE AND MAKING SURE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WERE FOLLOWED.
BUT YOU'RE ADDING A POLICY AND THEN SAYING, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT POLICY THAT YOU ADDED IS FOLLOWED.
IF THAT POLICY WASN'T THERE, THEN NO POLICY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN VIOLATED.
SO YOU'RE JUST ADVOCATING FOR THE PIP POLICY TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF CEMENTED INTO THE TERMINATION PROCESS.
AND I ALSO WANT TO SEE, UM, I WANT THEM TO KNOW, I WANT THE EMPLOYEES TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EVERYBODY, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD GIVE SOMEBODY 15 DAYS FOR IMPROVEMENT AND SOMEBODY ELSE, FIVE DAYS FOR IMPROVEMENT AND SOMEBODY ELSE 30 DAYS.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
I'M JUST SAYING WITHOUT A POLICY IT'S HARD TO DEFINE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS TREATED THE SAME.
WELL, I CAN, I CAN GET BEHIND THE IDEA OF A, UH, ADDING A PIP POLICY OF SOME SORTS INTO THE TERMINATION PROCESS.
WHAT I CAN'T GET BEHIND IS THE IDEA OF HAVING COUNCIL PLAY A ROLE IN THE, UH, TERMINATION OR NOT, THAT NEEDS TO, THAT NEEDS TO STAY WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
SO FOR ME, THAT WOULD JUST BE PART OF THE GRIEVANCE PROCESS.
SO JUST LIKE ABSOLUTELY A DEPARTMENT HAD, SHOULD NOT GRIEVE TO, UH, COUNSEL.
YOU COULD TECHNICALLY GRIEVE TO YOU IF THEY WANTED.
I MEAN, IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE IT A STEP UP, THE POLICY ALLOWS FOR THAT, YOU AND THEY COULD ALSO GRIEVE TO THE ATTORNEY.
SO WHY CAN'T THEY GRIEVE AND TALK TO THE REST OF US AND ACM CAN, YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT DEPARTMENT HEADS TO BE ABLE TO GRIEVE TO THE COUNCIL.
AND ESSENTIALLY I THINK SO CAN I'M AN EMPLOYEE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACROSS THE BOARD.
EVERYBODY SHOULD FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY, THEIR JOB IS NOT ON THE LINE OR THEY'RE PROTECTED.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GIVING THEM, IF THE CITY IS GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH A PIP TO IMPROVE THAT, WE GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND IF WE DON'T WANT IT, IF WE DON'T EVEN WANT THAT, THEN WE OWN THAT AS WELL.
I THINK THE DANGER OF THAT, OR IS THAT IF YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT HAS HAD A WRITTEN REPRIMAND AND THEN THEY HAVE, OR THEY HAVE A COACHING, CORRECT, WHICH IS YOUR VERBAL, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR WRITTEN REPRIMAND, WHICH IS THAT, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, DISCIPLINARY OR YOU HAVE YOUR TIME OFF.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER SCENARIO WHERE YOU'VE GOT, UM, MEET THE MAJOR'S CABIN, EVERYBODY ELSE, RIGHT.
AND IF THEY STILL FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT GETTING WHAT THEY WANT, THEN THE, THE FEAR WOULD BE, WELL, LET ME JUST GO TO MY FAVORITE COUNCIL MEMBER AND LET THEM PLEAD MY CASE FOR THEM.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN THERE.
WE DON'T NEED TO BE THE JUDGE AND THE JURY ON THE FINAL WAY.
IF SOMEBODY, THAT, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAY ABOUT CITY STAFF AND ADMINISTRATORS.
WE HAVE TO TRUST THEM TO DO THEIR JOB.
WE HAVE TO TRUST THEM TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND THE POLICY.
MAYBE THIS PERSON THAT WE LIKED OR THAT WE GOT ALONG WITH IS NO LONGER HERE, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS UNDERLINING REASONS FOR IT, FOR ALL, YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON WAS CALLING IN SICK EVERY DAY, OR HE MAY SHOWED UP DRUNK.
YOU NEVER, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S A PERSONNEL ISSUE.
THAT IS WHAT THE PERSONNEL AND THE HR DEPARTMENT HAS TO FOLLOW THROUGH.
AND THEN WHEN WE START SAYING, WELL, I WANT TO SEE IF ALL THE T'S AND ALL THE DOTS ARE CORE.
AND THE REASON WHY YOU FIRED HIM, THEN I'M GOOD WITH IT.
I HOPE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT ARI.
NO, AGAIN, SO THAT POLICY, YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU TALKED ABOUT WRITE-UPS AND ALL THAT THAT'S NOT IN HERE, SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE YOU GOT THAT INFORMATION FROM.
WELL, I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE TO WHERE, WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE ON THAT IS IF THE WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE, AS FAR AS, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE VERY DISCOURAGING RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
OH, BY THE WAY, HERE'S THE EMPLOYEE LISTING.
OH, BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU START GETTING IN TROUBLE, HERE'S THIS POLICY.
AND AFTER THE FOURTH ONE, YOU'RE CALLING, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF I SEE THAT, NEVERMIND, I'M NOT GOING TO WORK HERE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
SO THE POLICY IS GOING TO BE WRITTEN DOWN TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, YOU MESS UP.
IS THAT WHAT WE NEED TO GET? IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD, SANDRA.
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OKAY.UM, A LOT OF COMPANIES WENT FROM, OKAY, IF YOU HAVE 10 ABSENCES, THEN YOU GET A WRITE UP.
YOU HAVE 15 THAT YOU GET FIRED, RIGHT? IT'S SO IT TIES THE EMPLOYER'S HANDS ON, UH, BEING STRICT ON, YOU KNOW, DOING IT STEP BY STEP.
THERE IS NO WAY TO PUT A TEMPLATE ON EVERY SITUATION.
SO YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE EMPLOYEE WHAT'S GOING ON AT HOME.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT, CAN THEY BE REHABILITATED OR NOT? UM, OR THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN 10 TRIES ALREADY.
AND SO IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD AT ANOTHER POSITION OR ANOTHER JOB.
UM, SO WE DON'T WANT TO TIE OUR HANDS TO SOMEONE AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR CORE VALUES.
AND I FEEL THAT IF WE DO HAVE THOSE STRICT PROCESSES, IT IS GOING TO LIMIT US ON HOW WE MANAGE PERFORMANCE.
I ALREADY HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS SAYING I ALREADY TALKED TO HIM THREE TIMES AND I READ IT, WROTE HIM UP THREE TIMES.
WHAT CAN WE DO NEXT? AND SO NOW IF WE'RE SAYING, SORRY, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PIP FIRST, THEY HAVE TO WAIT 30 DAYS UNTIL YOU SEE THAT SAME PERFORMANCE GOING ON UNTIL WE LET THEM GO.
AND THEN THERE'S A GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE AFTER THAT, THAT MAKES IT HARDER.
UM, THE GRIEVANCE PROCEDURES THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO USE A LOT OF PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY 95% OF THE PEOPLE DON'T USE THE GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE AT ALL.
SO CAN I ASK YOU HOW MANY OPENINGS WE CURRENTLY HAVE? WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 30.
SO HOW MANY OPENINGS DO WE HAVE WITHIN THE CITY? 30? SO WE'RE ALMOST FULLY STAFFED EXCEPT FOR 30 PEOPLE CURRENTLY.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE RETENTION.
AND OUR RETENTION HAS BEEN THE BEST IN SEVEN YEARS.
WE USUALLY ARE 14, 18%, UH, OF TURNOVER.
AND SO FAR THIS YEAR WE'RE 11%.
SO I THINK THE YEAR'S ALMOST OVER FOR THE DIRECTORS.
I THINK WE HAVE LIKE SIX MISSING.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE COUNCIL TO BE MORE, IT'S LIKE A REVERBERATION BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER TO THE COUNCIL.
WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, BUT FROM A STAFFING STANDPOINT, PLUS AS FAR AS RETENTION, RETAINMENT ISSUES, THAT, THAT, WHICH IS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS ITEM IS GOING TO BE ABOUT.
WE, I MEAN, WE'VE MADE, WE JUST HAD OUR VERY LAST MEETING, MADE A HUGE STEP TOWARDS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TURNOVER IS NOT BECAUSE OF ANYTHING RELATED TO WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.
WE HAVE VERY GOOD STAFF MEMBERS.
SO MY RETENTION RESEARCH TELLS ME DIFFERENTLY YOUR, YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, I WENT TO HR AND I READ SOME RESIGNATION LETTERS.
I WAS LIKE, OKAY, HOW DO WE KEEP THIS STAFF? AND IT'S NOT JUST MONEY EITHER.
IT'S ALSO MAKING SURE BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE LEFT FOR LESS MONEY.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK RETAINING THEM HAS MUCH TO DO WITH MONEY AND MORE TO DO WITH JOB REASSURANCE AND MAKING SURE THEY FEEL SAFE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO NOT ALWAYS SAY YES, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE TURNOVER AND WHAT'S CAUSING IT.
AND WHETHER IT'S GOOD, BAD, OR SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE, BUT YOU'VE MADE THIS CASE NOW MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT ADDING THIS.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY LET'S MAKE MOTIONS AND VOTES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE A PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS PROCEDURE FOR THE CITY'S POLICY HANDBOOK OR PERSONNEL HANDBOOK, MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE KALE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ROLL CALL VOTE.
I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT THIS PIP WOULD LOOK LIKE.
WHAT I KNOW WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF A DISCUSSION ON IT.
UM, I'M JUST, I GUESS ONE THING THAT WORRIES ABOUT I WORRY ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE MORE AND MORE INVOLVED IN THIS NOW, THIS PROCESS, AND WE'RE MORE INVOLVED WITH THE PROCESS.
IT DOES WORRY ME A LITTLE BIT, UH, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ALREADY GETTING BLOWN UP ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND HERE IN THE CITY, UH, DOING EXTRA WORK.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK OF MYSELF, YOU KNOW, ALREADY, YOU KNOW, ON A LOT OF THE COMMITTEES AND ALLOW THE OTHER STUFF THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PROJECTS AS WELL.
AND I JUST WONDER, WHERE DOES COUNCIL DRAW THE LINE? I THINK THERE'S POSSESSIONS THAT ARE OUT THE PUBLIC THAT MAYBE WERE TOO INVOLVED.
AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WORRIES ME RIGHT NOW.
I THINK WE'RE TOO INVOLVED WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE TOO INVOLVED WITH MAKING SURE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE NOT ONLY FOLLOWED, BUT THEY'RE ALSO CREATED TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT RUN OUR CITY.
THAT'S WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH.
SO WE'RE GOING TO START CALLING FOR VOTES IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE KEEP GOING ON THIS.
SO ROLL CALL IT TOBIAS PARSLEY.
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TO FIVE.DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER MOTIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE? NO.