Link

Social

Embed

Disable autoplay on embedded content?

Download

Download
Download Transcript


START GOOD AFTERNOON

[00:00:01]

SLASH EARLY

[I.  Call Meeting to Order]

EVENING.

EVERYONE AT TIME IS 5:38 PM.

IT IS THURSDAY, AUGUST THE 25TH, AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL HERE.

RIZZO PRISON FLORES KALE HERE, BRADSHAW HERE, PARSLEY HERE TO BS.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SIX MEMBERS PRESENT.

WE HAVE QUORUM NEXT UP CITIZEN

[II.  Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

COMMENTS PERIOD.

AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO.

SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.

FIRST UP SLIDE TONIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT STEP, MISS JENNIFER ALVISO HELLO, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME UP HERE AND SPEAK.

UM, I'VE BEEN CHATTING WITH SEVERAL OF YOU ABOUT OUR ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH, UH, LAYMAN ROAD AND BUTTONED CREEK ROAD, AND THAT WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS. A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE.

THAT'S GETTING BACKED UP SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE MORNINGS AND IN THE EVENINGS.

AND, UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR A STOPLIGHT TO HOLD THERE.

UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF PUSHING FOR, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S BE SAFE FOR OUR KIDS TO WALK THROUGH.

AND, UH, IT'S RIGHT THERE BY LAYMAN HIGH SCHOOL.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A CHANGE THERE BEFORE THE ROAD BOND, UM, TAKES PLACE OR AT LEAST UNTIL, UNTIL THAT TAKES PLACE, WHATEVER PLANS ARE IN THE WORKS.

AND SO, UM, I KNOW THAT THAT WILL TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO GET THE ROAD BOND IN PLACE, BUT WE NEED SOME RELIEF NOW.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME HELP.

AND, UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE DACEY ROAD AND BUTTON CREEK ROAD, WHICH GETS A LOT OF THAT BACKED UP TRAFFIC TOO.

AND I KNOW THAT A POLICE OFFICER HAS BEEN OUT THERE.

AT LEAST THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT IT, TRYING TO DIRECT TRAFFIC, BUT IT'S BEEN, IT SEEMED VERY CHALLENGING.

SO, UM, THAT'S ALL THAT I NEED TO SAY, BUT THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL THE FORMS THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? SEEING NONE? I'M GOING TO CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.

IT IS NOW CLOSED NEXT

[1.  Conduct a public hearing, per the city charter, to receive feedback from the community regarding council compensation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

UP PUBLIC HEARING CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CITY CHARTER TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY REGARDING COUNCIL COMPENSATION.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD THE FIRST UP MS. LAILA NINE YOU CAN NOT TALL IN THE WORLD.

UM, GOOD EVENING OR AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS LAILA NIGHT AND I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HANDLE COMPENSATION TONIGHT FOR THE COUNCIL, UNLESS IT'S THROUGH JUST MAKING AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET.

UM, I'M HOPING VERY MUCH THAT YOU'RE NOT EMBOLDENED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN RECENTLY GIVING THEMSELVES A $33,000 RAISE, WHICH PUTS THEM INTO SIX FIGURES.

UM, KYLE IS NOT AUSTIN.

WE ARE NOT A SUBURB OF BOSTON.

WE HAVE OUR OWN UNIQUE IDENTITY AND WE EXPECT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO REPRESENT US AND TO NOT BE HERE AS PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS.

UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU WERE FINALLY AFTER SO MANY YEARS GIVING THE STAFF OF THE RAISE THEY DESERVE AND THEY DESERVE IT.

THEY WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK.

YOUR JOB DOES NOT TAKE 40 HOURS A WEEK.

IF YOU'RE DOING 40 HOURS A WEEK, THEN YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ THE CITY CHARTER IN TERMS OF WHAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, THAT'S ALL THE FORMS I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? UH, THE, UH, CHAIR OF THE COUNCIL COMPENSATION COMMITTEE DID SUBMIT A LETTER AND SHE ASKED THAT IT BE READ TONIGHT.

SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO READ THAT NOW.

UH, THAT'S ROSEBURG, SHE'S A COLLAR RESIDENT, UM, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE COUNCIL COMPENSATION COMMITTEE AND BEING ABLE TO PRESENT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 16TH.

TONIGHT.

I WISH TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS THAT ARE FOR, UH, FOR ME INDIVIDUALLY MAY OR MAY NOT REPRESENT THOSE

[00:05:01]

OF THE COMMITTEE.

I'VE THOUGHT A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE COUNCIL COMPENSATION AND WOULD LIKE TO OFFER ONE ALTERNATIVE BECAUSE THE TOTAL COUNCIL BUDGET WAS BEING RECOMMENDED TO INCREASE FROM 225,000 TO 355,000, WHICH IS A 130,000 OR 58% INCREASE.

UH, IT WAS FELT THAT THE INCREASE ITSELF DID NOT ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE IN COUNCIL COMPENSATION.

THE INITIAL BUDGET VERSION HAS EACH COUNCIL MEMBER BEING ALLOWED A $38,000 BUDGET, 50,000 IN TOTAL, INCLUDING THEIR SALARY, UH, IN REVIEWING THE INDIVIDUAL BUDGET LINE ITEMS, MEANING SEEM QUITE HIGH WITHOUT ANY PRIOR HISTORY OF WHAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER MIGHT REALLY NEED.

$3,000 FOR OFFICE SUPPLIES, UH, $2,500 FOR COMPUTER HARDWARE.

UH, DO THEY NOT DO COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, ALREADY HAVE, UH, CD ISSUED COMPUTERS, 7,800 FOR FOOD AND MEALS.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER GIVING EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE MAYOR OF $500 PER MONTH OR $6,000 ANNUAL PAY INCREASE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OTHER BUDGET ITEMS THEN DECREASED BY $8,000 IN TOTAL FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, IN THE MAYOR, SO THAT THE BUDGET EXCLUDING THE SALARIES FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, UH, INCLUDING THE MAYOR WOULD BE $30,000.

UH, THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL COUNCIL BUDGET DECREASE OF $14,000 VERSUS WHAT WAS PRESENTED.

THE RESULTING PAYROLL TAX EXPENSE, UH, INCREASE WOULD NEED TO BE INCORPORATED AS WELL.

UH, I FEEL SUCH AN INCREASE WOULD HELP PROVIDE BETTER COMPENSATION FOR THE REQUIRED LENGTHY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AT THIS POINT, WHEN WE ARE SHORT, A CITY MANAGER POSITION, I DO NOT FEEL IT IS SUITABLE, UH, TO EVALUATE WHETHER THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER POSITIONS ACTUALLY REQUIRE FULL-TIME OR PART-TIME PAY, UH, IF YOU MAKE THOSE POSITIONS FULL-TIME OR PART-TIME, THEN IT COULD, UH, ALSO ELIMINATE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD CONSIDER THE VOLUNTARY POSITION BECAUSE IT IS RISKY TO QUIT A REGULAR JOB, UH, FOR WHAT MIGHT BE A THREE-YEAR TERM CONSIDER THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER MAY ENJOY WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT IS VOLUNTARY AND THEY ARE STILL FREE TO MAKE DECISIONS AS TO HOW MUCH TIME AND, UH, AN EFFORT THEY PUT INTO THE COUNCIL.

IF IT IS A TRUE JOB, THAT FREEDOM WILL BE GONE AND IT MIGHT NOT BE FUN ANYMORE.

UH, FUN AND QUOTES.

UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST LETTING EACH PERSON GO OVER A BUDGET, UH, ON LINE ITEMS, UH, IF NEEDED, AS LONG AS THEY REDUCE THE SPENDING, UH, IN ANOTHER LINE ITEM, IT IS DIFFICULT TO EXPECT EACH PERSON TO SERVE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR IN THE SAME MANNER AS ANOTHER MEMBER, EACH SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO MANAGE THEIR TOTAL BUDGET AS BEST FITS WITH THEIR WAY OF DOING COUNCIL BUSINESS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOMMEND TWO ITEMS TO BE ADDED TO THE POLICY FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING CITY BUSINESS EXPENSES.

ONE ADD THE ABILITY TO INVOICE FOR UNALLOWABLE OR UNDOCUMENTED CREDIT CARD EXPENSES, UH, FOR WHICH THERE IS NOT A PAYCHECK TO WITHHOLD THOSE EXPENSES FOR, UH, SUCH EXPENSES MAY BE DISCOVERED IN AN AUDIT OR DURING REGULAR ACCOUNTING PROCESSES AT FUTURE DATES TO ADD THE DEFINITION OF MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT PER THE IRS IN SUMMARY, MILEAGE IS ONLY REIMBURSED FROM THE PLACE OF WORK SLASH EMPLOYER WHO IS DOING THE REIMBURSING IN THIS CASE CITY HALL FOR ALL, UH, TO THE MEETING LOCATION, COMMUTING TO WORK IS NOT REIMBURSABLE.

THAT IS, UM, UM, UH, MS. ROSEBURG COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, UH, DURING THIS PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS NOW CLOSED.

UH, NEXT STEP, UH,

[2.  (First Reading) An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas Approving the 2022 Annual Update to the Service and Assessment Plan and Assessment Roll for the Southwest Kyle Public Improvement District No. 1 Including the Collection of the 2022 Annual Installments. ~ Jon Snyder, P3Works, LLC, City's PID Administrator]

FIRST READING AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER TWO, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS APPROVING THE 2022 ANNUAL UPDATE TO THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE SOUTHWEST KYLE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

NUMBER ONE, INCLUDING THE COLLECTION OF THE 2022 ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS.

MR. SNYDER, GREAT MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.

JOHN SNYDER WITH B3 WORKS, UH, REALLY THIS

[3.  (First Reading) An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas Approving the 2022 Annual Update to the Amended and Restated Service and Assessment Plan and Assessment Roll for the 6 Creeks Public Improvement District Including the Collection of the 2022 Annual Installments. ~ Jon Snyder, P3Works, LLC, City's PID Administrator]

ITEM, AS WELL AS THE NEXT ITEM.

UM, I CAN DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF BOTH THERE.

THEY'RE JUST THE ANNUAL UPDATE, SO WE'RE NOT LOVING ANY NEW ASSESSMENTS.

THIS IS AS SIMPLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS BY STATUTE.

SO WHAT WE'RE APPROVING IS AN UPDATE TO THE ASSESSMENT ROLE, WHICH IS ULTIMATELY GONNA BE SENT OFF TO HAYES COUNTY SO THAT THESE ASSESSMENTS ARE PLACED ON THE TAX BILL, WHICH WE USE TO PAY THE BONDS.

UM, RIGHT NOW THERE'S THE TWO BEFORE YOU SOUTHWEST PILE PIT, NUMBER ONE, AS WELL AS, UH, SIX CREEKS.

THEY ARE BOTH IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR NEXT PHASE.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING US ON BOTH PROJECTS AND BECOMING MONTHS, UH, REQUESTING FOR A FIXED GREEKS WOULD BE IMPROVEMENT.

NUMBER FOUR, AND FOR SOUTHWEST KYLE WOULD BE IN PRE-INTERVIEW NUMBER TWO, BUT THOSE WILL BE COMING, UH, PROBABLY CLOSER TO THE HOLIDAYS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MOTIONS OKAY.

AND THIS IS FOUR ITEMS. NUMBER THREE.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP NUMBER THREE AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M ALSO GONNA OPEN UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS APPROVING THE 2022 ANNUAL UPDATE TO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED SERVICES AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE SIX CREEKS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, INCLUDING THE COLLECTION

[00:10:01]

OF THE 2022 ANNUAL INSTALLMENTS.

MR. SNYDER COMMENTS APPLY HERE AS WELL.

OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR EMOTIONS MAYBE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS TWO AND TWO AND THREE? ALL RIGHT.

UH, MOTIONS MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS TWO AND THREE.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMARY FLOOR SCALE? THANK YOU.

UM, SO FOR THE PITS, THERE'S LIKE A LAUNDRY.

IS THERE LIKE A LAUNDRY LIST THAT THEY CHECK OFF TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS DONE, THAT EVERYTHING I KNOW IT'S AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

AND SO AT DIFFERENT TIMES THEY SAY, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE MONEY FOR.

AND I JUST WANT TO, UM, ASK IF, UH, EITHER STAFF OR P P THREE WORKS, JUST CONFIRM THAT IT WAS DONE IN TERMS OF WAS THE WORK THAT WAS AUTHORIZED.

YEAH, SO WE GO THROUGH, IT'S A EXTREMELY THOROUGH REVIEW.

ACTUALLY, THE DEVELOPERS HATE IT BECAUSE WE GO THROUGH AND CHECK EVERY INVOICE, CANCELED CHECK LIEN RELEASE, UH, MAKE SURE THAT EVERY LINE ITEM WAS LISTED IN THE SAP, UH, CS.

THAT IS, THAT IS DONE ON A VERY THOROUGH BASIS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

UH, NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM

[4.  

Conduct a public hearing to obtain comments on the City's Proposed Budget, as amended by City Council, for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 totaling approximately $212.6 million for all City Funds, including no changes in water service rates, no changes in wastewater service rates, no changes in storm drainage fees, a 2.49 percent increase in solid waste service charges (trash collection) per contract terms with TDS, all other fees and charges for various City services as provided for in the fee schedule, capital improvement program expenditures, and the addition of 55.0 new full-time positions for a total of 360.0 positions. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Acting City Manager

]

NUMBER FOUR, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO OBTAIN COMMENTS ON THE CITY'S PROPOSED BUDGET AS AMENDED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 22, 20 23, TOTALING, APPROXIMATELY $212.6 MILLION FOR ALL CITY FUNDS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES IN WASTEWATER, NO CHANGES IN WATER SERVICE RATES, NO CHANGES IN WASTEWATER SERVICE RATES, NO CHANGES IN STORM DRAINAGE FEES.

A 2.49% INCREASE IN SOLID WASTE SERVICE CHARGES, TRASH COLLECTION PER CONTRACT TERMS WITH TDS, ALL OTHER FEES AND CHARGES FOR VARIOUS CITY SERVICES AS PROVIDED FOR IN THE FEE SCHEDULE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM EXPENDITURES, AND THE ADDITION OF 55 NEW FULL-TIME POSITIONS, A TOTAL OF 360 POSITIONS.

UH, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS NOW CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT

[5.  

Conduct a public hearing to obtain comments on the proposal to set the City's ad valorem tax rate (property tax rate) at $0.5082 per $100 of taxable assessed valuation for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 (Tax Year 2022).  There is no change in the total tax rate from the current tax year. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Acting City Manager

]

UP, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING TO OBTAIN COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSAL TO SET THE CITY'S AD VALOREM TAX RATE.

UM, THANK YOU, UH, AT, UH, 5.508, TWO PER $100 OF TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 22, 20 23.

UH, THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE TOTAL TAX RATE FROM THE CURRENT TAX YEAR.

UM, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? UM, I JUST WANTED TO LIKE, LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS WEEK AES COUNTY, WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRE COUNTY, DID A NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE OF 0.3159.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST LIKE FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A ITEM I HAVE TO READ PER UH, STATE LAW.

SO IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, UH, THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED ON THE CITY'S PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATES FOR TAX YEAR 2022 FISCAL YEAR 2023.

THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CITY'S PROPOSED AVALARA TAX RATE, UH, RATES WAS HELD ON AUGUST 16TH, 2022 AT CALLED CITY HALL.

100 WEST CENTER STREET CALLED TEXAS 7 8 6 4 0.

THE CITY'S AD VALOREM TAX RATES FOR TAX YEAR 2022 ARE AS FOLLOWS NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE 0.4 TO SIX OH PER $100 VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE 0.508, TWO PER $100 PROPOSED TAX RATE 0.508, TWO PER $100 AT THIS MEETING TODAY, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER ON SECOND AND FINAL READING OF PROPERTY TAX RATE ORDINANCE TO SET THE AD VALOREM TAX RATE AT 0.508, TWO PER $100 OF TAXABLE ASSESSED EVALUATION FOR TAX YEAR 2022.

THE PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE OF 0.5082 PER $100 IS THE SAME RATE AS THE CITY'S CURRENT ADOPTED TAX RATE OF 0.5082 PER $100.

THE CITY'S PROPOSED AD VALOREM TAX RATE OF 0.508, TWO PER $100 IS ABOVE THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE OF 0.4 TO SIX PER $100.

AND IT'S THE SAME AS THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE OF 0.5082 PER $100 FOR TAX YEAR 2022.

DURING THIS MEETING, THE CAL CITY COUNCIL IS SCHEDULED TO VOTE ON THE AD VALOREM TAX RATE.

ON SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE, THE FIRST READING OF THE TAX RATE ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED ON AUGUST 16TH, 2022 PUBLIC NOTICES WERE PUBLISHED IN THE HAY STREET PRESS TO INFORM AND INVITE ALL CALL TAXPAYERS RESIDENTS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY'S PROPOSED AVALARA TAX RATES.

ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE TIME.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED NEXT UP AGENDA

[6.  

(Second Reading)  Approve an Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, adopting a budget totaling $212.6 million for all City Funds for the ensuing Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2022 and ending September 30, 2023; appropriating revenue and expenditure amounts thereof for all City Funds, authorizing no changes in water service rates, no changes in wastewater service rates, no changes in storm drainage fees, a 2.49 percent in in solid waste services per contract terms with TDS, all other fees and charges for various City services as provided for in the fee schedule, capital improvement program expenditures, addition of 55.0 new full-time positions for a total of 360.0 full-time equivalent positions, carryover of encumbrances, all associated schedules and documents; and repealing all Ordinances in conflict herewith; and providing for an effective date. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Acting City Manager

 

City Council voted 6-0 to approve on First Reading 8/16/2022.

]

ITEM NUMBER SIX, SECOND, READING APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS ADOPTING A BUDGET TOTALING $212.6 MILLION FOR ALL CITY FUNDS FOR

[00:15:01]

THE ENSUING FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING, OCTOBER 1ST, 2022, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023, APPROPRIATING, UH, REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE AMOUNTS THEREOF FOR ALL CITY FUNDS AUTHORIZING NO CHANGES IN WATER SERVICE RATES, NO CHANGES IN WASTEWATER SERVICE RATES, NO CHANGES IN STORM DRAINAGE FEES.

UH, 2.49% IN, UH, INCREASE IN SOLID WASTE SERVICES PER CONTRACT TERMS WITH TDS, ALL OTHER FEES AND CHARGES FOR VARIOUS CITY SERVICES AS PROVIDED FOR IN THE FEE SCHEDULE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM EXPENDITURES, ADDITION OF 55 NEW FULL-TIME POSITIONS FOR A TOTAL OF 360 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS CARRY OVER OF ENCUMBRANCES, ALL ASSOCIATED SCHEDULES AND DOCUMENTS AND REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. HENDRIX, MAYOR COUNCIL, JERRY HENDRICKS, ACTING CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.

UM, AT THE LAST MEETING YOU ASKED US TO BRING BACK A FUNDING PROPOSAL TO, UM, POUR OUR EMERGENCY STORM SHELTER PROGRAMS AND TO ASSESS IF THE CITY SHOULD APPLY FOR GRANT FUNDING YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, OUR FUNDING PLAN FOR, FOR THAT PROPOSAL AND OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR WILL BUYS TABASCO IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COUNSELOR FLOOR SCALE? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BACK.

LET ME JUST ASK, WHAT AM I LOOKING AT? IT'S $15,000, CORRECT.

FOR, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO, I SUBMITTED A REPORT ON THE FEASIBILITY OF CONSTRUCTION FROM MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES.

UM, WHAT I FOUND FROM TDA AND FROM HMP, UH, HAZARD MITIGATION PROGRAM IS THAT KYLE, AS IT STANDS, DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR GRANT FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM.

WHAT I WANT TO DO WAS GET A PILOT STARTED BECAUSE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE SAID WE CAN APPLY NEXT YEAR TO EXPAND AN EXISTING PROGRAM, BUT NOT TO START A NEW PROGRAM.

INITIALLY, I HAD SUBMITTED FOR 10% OF THE NUMBER OF HOMES THERE.

UH, THAT NUMBER WAS CUT DOWN TO 15, WHICH WOULD FUND THREE SHELTERS AT $5,000 REIMBURSED PER SHELTER.

AND ON THAT BASIS, NEXT YEAR, WE CAN APPLY TO TDA, UM, GET GRANT FUNDING, TO EXPAND OUR PROGRAM TO 10, 15, WHATEVER IT IS THE STATE'S WILLING TO ALLOW.

OKAY.

SO MY QUESTION IS TO YOU, JERRY, I CAN'T NOT HAVE THESE RESIDENTS HAVE SOME KIND OF SAFETY SHELTER.

SO HOW DO WE GET THAT TO THEM? THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE MOBILE HOMES, HOW DO WE GET THEM SOME TYPE OF SAFETY SHELTER? UM, IS THAT A TECHNICAL QUESTION? I MEAN, THERE'S SHELTERS ARE PROVIDED.

I MEAN, THEY'RE PROVIDED BY PRIVATE COMPANIES, THE RESIDENT WOULD SOLICIT A BID, THEY WOULD PURCHASE IT AND THEN THE CITY WOULD COME BACK AND REIMBURSE IT ON THE BASIS OF, WELL, OUR OWN, UH, OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR OWN REQUIREMENTS FOR SHELTERS.

AND SO AS LONG AS IT PASSES, IT MEETS THE STATE REQUIREMENT OR NOT THE STATED REQUIREMENTS YET, BUT OUR REQUIREMENTS, WE WOULD REIMBURSE UP TO 50% NEXT YEAR, THAT PROCESS WOULD BE EXTENDED A LITTLE BIT.

WE WOULD REIMBURSE AND THEN THE STATE WOULD REIMBURSE US AS LONG AS IT MEETS FEMA, 3001, I THINK, GUIDELINES.

OKAY.

SO HOW DO WE GET THE RESIDENTS A STORM SHELTER? IT SAYS THE CITY IS ALLOWING, HAS ALLOWED SEVERAL MOBILE HOME, UM, AREAS.

SO HOW DO I GET PROTECTION FOR THESE RESIDENTS? SO THE, THE MOBILE HOME AREAS THAT ARE HERE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.

AND I THINK THE FIRST THING THAT IF YOU'RE ASKING ME WHAT I WOULD DO, IF THE COUNCIL DIRECTS, SO IS I WOULD ASK A WILL TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES, ASSESS WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, WHAT THE POPULATION IS AND WHAT THE LAYOUT IS, AND THEN BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT STORM SHELTERS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN EACH COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE COSTS WOULD BE.

OKAY.

I WAS KIND OF HOPING THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO TODAY IS DISCUSS THAT.

UM, SO FOR ME, MY CONCERN IS MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THE RESIDENTS HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GO IN CASE OF INCLEMENT WEATHER, WHETHER IT BE COLD OR FLOOD OR TORNADO OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

I, WHAT I, WHAT I SOUND LIKE I'M HEARING IS IT'S JUST GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE DO ALL THIS RESEARCH.

LET ME, I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

NOW, THERE, THERE ARE EMERGENCY PLANS IN PLACE WITH HAYES COUNTY TO USE THINGS LIKE SCHOOLS AND INLETS, CITY HALL HAVE SERVED AS A SHELTER BEFORE CHURCHES, EACH, EACH DISASTER EMERGENCY IS DIFFERENT, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE NIMBLE IN OUR RESPONSES AND TO ACTIVATE VIA RESOURCES ARE NEEDED IN A SHORT TIME SPAN.

OKAY.

SO SINCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A STORM SHELTER FOR THESE AREAS, I WOULD LIKE IF WE COULD PROVIDE TO THE, UM, SUBDIVISIONS, SOME SORT OF INFORMATION, LETTING THE PEOPLE AND THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHERE DO THEY CAN GO IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

I THINK THE FIRST THING THEY NEED TO KNOW IS

[00:20:01]

WHERE TO GO, TO GET INFORMATION REGARDING WHERE TO GO IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

CAUSE LIKE I SAID, EVERY AGENCY IS DIFFERENT AND WHERE YOU GO IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE EMERGENCY.

YEAH.

OUR REGIONAL NOTIFICATION SYSTEM IS PRETTY ACCURATE AND TARGETING.

SO OF QUAIL RAGE, JUST AS THE EXAMPLE, CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO CAME UP HERE IS THREATENED.

UM, I JUST ON A MAP, DROPBOX AROUND QUAIL RIDGE, EVERYONE IN THAT AREA, REGARDLESS IF THEY'RE VISITING LIVE THERE OR WHATEVER, AS LONG AS THE TOWERS CAN PICK UP THAT THEY HAVE A MOBILE DEVICE IN THAT AREA, THEY'RE GETTING A TEXT, THEY'RE GETTING A PHONE CALL.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PRERECORD A MESSAGE, WE CAN DELIVER THAT TOO.

BUT THEY WILL KNOW IN THAT INFORMATION, GO TO THE WEBSITE, GO TO THIS LOCATION, UH, AVOID THE AREA, WHATEVER THE MESSAGE MAY BE.

IF IT'S POLICE ACTIVITY, AVOID THE AREA, IT'LL SAY, DON'T COME HERE.

IF IT'S A FLOOD, WATERS ARE LIKE THE GAUGE OVER AN ONION CREEK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY JUST WENT UP.

AND SO IN TWO HOURS, IT'LL GO UP HERE.

WE'LL SAY THE SAME THING.

HEY, FLOODWATERS ARE APPROACHING ETA 10 MINUTES MOVE.

WHAT IF IT'S A TORNADO? IF THAT ONE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NOTICE.

UH, SO WE WE'LL PUT OUT THE TORNADO WATCH.

WE WILL PUT OUT THE TORNADO WARNING.

MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATION IS IN THE EVENT OF ANY SORT OF, UH, WELL WATCH CONDITIONS.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO TURN INTO A WARNING.

I WOULD RELOCATE TO WHERE THAT IS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.

WE CAN SET UP, WE CAN TRY TO ACTIVATE THE COUNTY SHELTERING SYSTEM OR WE CAN ACTIVATE OUR OWN IF WE HAVE SOME FACILITY USE AGREEMENTS IN THE CITY.

OKAY.

ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHY THEY CONTACTED ME.

IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE INCLEMENT WIND WEATHER.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL THIS WHENEVER THEY HAVE TO SEEK SHELTER.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, JERRY, HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

SO WHEN, UH, I THINK THE FIRST, FIRST STEP WITH ANYTHING IS PUBLIC EDUCATION OUTREACH ON WHAT TO DO IN CASE OF EMERGENCY AND PARTICULARLY TORNADOES.

IF THAT'S WHAT THE CONCERN IS.

AND I CAN TASK WILL ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM AND, AND WORK WITH THE SCHOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTED THAT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

CUSTOMER TOBY IS, UM, EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE ALREADY HAD SOMETHING IN, IN, IN PLACE, UH, HEARING FROM AS FAR AS KALE.

I AGREE WHAT SHE'S SAYING.

CAUSE WE ALL KNOW TEXAS WEATHER COULD CHANGE AT ANY MINUTE.

RIGHT? WE ALL KNOW THAT.

SO IF THE RESIDENTS HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THEIR IMMEDIATE VICINITY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT TO SAY, WHERE CAN THESE PEOPLE GO? ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE CHILDREN THAT ARE HOME BY THEMSELVES OR AFTERSCHOOL IMMEDIATE, WHETHER IT COMES UP WORK AND THEY GO RIGHT IN THEIR AREA FOR SHELTER, UM, UH, I'LL JUST NEVER FORGET MAY OF 1997, YOU KNOW, OF GERALD TORNADO AND, AND EXPERIENCING SOME OF THAT WHEN I WORKED UP IN NORTH AUSTIN.

SO I, WHEN SHE MENTIONED THAT, UM, IT IS TRUE THAT OUR WEATHER CHANGES SO FAST AND I UNDERSTAND WE CAN IMPLEMENT THE HAYES COUNTY, UH, EMERGENCY SYSTEM, BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE SCHOOLS AT A RAPID PACE? ARE THE SCHOOLS GOING TO BE OPEN FOR THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MINUTES, COUNT, SECONDS COUNT.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A DIRECTION AS WHAT IS, WHAT ARE WE DOING AS A CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING, A SHELTER IN PLACE FOR THE RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE VULNERABLE AREAS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO TO, AND THEN ALSO WHAT KIND OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE WILL BE NEEDED IN THAT AREA.

IN THE EVENT, WE HAVE SOME DAMAGED HOMES WHERE WE CAN KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES WERE ACTUALLY ON THE ROAD, WE'RE ON THE STREET THAT COUNT OF HOW MANY RESIDENTS AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE MASS DESTRUCTION IF THAT EVER HAPPENS.

SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE GOAL.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WITH MS. FLORES, KALES IS TRYING TO REACH IS IF WE HAD OUR OWN CITY WOULD HAVE OUR OWN FACILITY TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO IMMEDIATELY AND THEN ALSO HAVE A BACKUP PLAN.

AS FAR AS OUR RESPONSE FOR THE RECOVERY.

UH, WE HAD LOOKED, OR I HAD LOOKED INTO COMMUNITY SHELTERS, WHICH ARE FREESTANDING STRUCTURES WITHIN, UH, THE, THESE COMMUNITIES SPECIFICALLY QUAIL RIDGE.

UH, THE COST CAME BACK TO 60,000 AND DUE TO THE LAYOUT, I WENT OVER IT WITH WILKINSON.

IT WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE THE FOLKS AT THE NORTHERN END OF THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REACH THE SHELTER ON THE ONLY LAND AVAILABLE TO BUILD IT ON THE SOUTHERN END.

AND THEN THE, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER THEN EXPLAINED THAT THESE SORT OF FREESTANDING STRUCTURES ARE SUBJECT TO THEIR OWN PERILS.

BASICALLY THERE ARE EMPTY BUILDINGS THAT ARE LEFT EMPTY, THEY ATTRACT PESTS, VANDALISM, THIS SORT OF THING.

SO THAT IDEA WAS DISCOUNTED, BUT I CAN GO BACK AND TRY TO FIND MORE INFORMATION ON COMMUNITY SHELTERS RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL SHELTERS, BECAUSE WE'RE A PARSLEY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

WHY ARE WE SAYING COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE LIKE A TORNADO WARNING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, WHO SENDS THAT COMMUNICATION? IT COMES FROM OUR REGIONAL NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.

UH, I'M NOTIFIED

[00:25:01]

BY THE RADAR STATION IN NEW BRAUNFELS.

THAT'S USUALLY WHY I'M ABLE TO GET A WEATHER NOTICES OUT TO SENIOR STAFF BEFORE THE STATE OPERATION CENTER CAN.

UM, ONCE I GET THROUGH TO RACHEL, SHE ACTIVATES THE REGIONAL NOTIFICATION SYSTEM AND JUST SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL, AND LETS WHOEVER IS IMPACTED KNOW, AVOID THESE ROADS NOTE, UH, BE AWARE OF LOW CROSSINGS, THAT SORT OF THING, BECAUSE I'M THINKING IN THE MEANTIME, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE SCHOOLS OR CHURCHES IN THE AREA AND HAVE A PLANNING PLACE THAT WAY, WHEN WE ARE GOING TO SEND THAT NOTIFICATION, MAYBE WE CAN SEND A LIST OF THE PLACES THAT WILL BE TAKING PEOPLE LIKE FOR SHELTER AND THE SAME MESSAGE WHEN SCHOOLS ARE INVOLVED MINUTES AFTER THE FIRST NOTIFICATION GOES OUT TO OUR STAFF, I'M ALREADY ON THE PHONE WITH JERRY CROCKY OVER AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

UH, SHE'S THE EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR HASTY ISD.

SO FOR THE EVACUATIONS, UM, IT WAS UNDER 60 SECONDS BETWEEN I WAS NOTIFIED I WAS ON WITH HER TO SEE WHAT RESOURCES THEY NEEDED FOR THEIR EVACUATION.

SO AT MINUTES DO COUNT AND IT DOES TAKE MINUTES, BUT IT ONLY TAKES MINUTES.

UM, UH, WE CAN TRY TO STREAMLINE EVEN FASTER.

WE CAN CREATE SOME SORT OF DISTRIBUTION, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO VOICE TO VOICE COMMUNICATION, I, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO GET FASTER AT THIS POINT.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

I'M JUST THINKING IF EVERY RESIDENT IS GOING TO GET THE NOTIFICATION, HAVING A TEXT MESSAGE WITH A LIST OF THE PLACES THAT THEY CAN GO MIGHT BE A LOT FASTER FOR EVERYBODY.

OH YES, YES.

UH, TEMPLATES ARE BEING PRE UPLOADED INTO RNS.

SO WE DO HAVE THE BASICS IN THERE.

THE DETAILS ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT'S MISSING.

UM, SO IT SHOULD CUT DOWN ON THE TIME IT TAKES TO GENERATE THAT MESSAGE.

SO THINGS LIKE THIS RIVER IS THE ONE BEING FLOODED.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO EVACUATE DRAWING THE POLYGONS ON THE MAP.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT ARE MISSING.

EVERYTHING ELSE IS BOILER PLATE.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

YES MA'AM BECAUSE THERE WERE JUST ONE LAST THOUGHT I KNOW FOR SOME OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, LIVED IN THE CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND DECADES, WE USED TO HAVE A HORN TORNADO HORN THAT WOULD GO OFF AT NOON AND IT WOULD SOUND OFF.

AND I KNOW THAT'S MAYBE PRIMITIVE, BUT, UH, COMPARED TO TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY.

BUT WHAT IF THE IDEA OF WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A, UH, UM, COMMUNITY-WIDE OR CITY-WIDE HORN OR AN ALERT SYSTEM THAT EVERYBODY CAN HEAR AND MAYBE NOT JUST RECEIVE IT, BUT THEY CAN BE AWARE THAT WHEN THEY HEAR THAT SPECIFIC HORN OR SIREN THAT GOES OFF LIKE BACK IN THE DAY, UH, SOME OF Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT WHEN IT WOULD GO OFF AND WE WOULD HAVE THOSE GRASS FIRES OVER THERE AND GO FORTH, THAT MEANT THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY AVAILABLE FIREMAN OR VOLUNTEER FIREMAN, UH, RUSH OVER AND GET ON THE TRUCK AND HEAD OUT.

BUT IT IT'S SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

I MEAN, I KNOW SOME CITIES HAVE THAT.

I KNOW MAYBE WE'VE GONE PAST IT, BUT I'M JUST THINKING OF DIFFERENT IDEAS IN MY MIND.

JUST HOW WE CAN NOTIFY PEOPLE THAT THERE IS A HUGE STORM COMING OR A TORNADO IS WHEN THEY HEAR THAT SIREN TO TAKE COVER.

UH, A CITIZEN HAD ASKED ABOUT OUR EXISTING SIRENS, UH, WHEN I REACHED OUT TO PARKS AND PUBLIC WORKS, I FOUND THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE SIRENS THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN TAKEN DOWN, UM, AT JERRY'S REQUEST, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN TRY TO EXPLORE.

HOW DO WE GET OTHER SIRENS IMPLEMENTED? YES, PLEASE.

YEAH.

SOMETHING WE CAN THINK ABOUT IS, UH, MAYBE IN PARTNERING WITH SOME OF THE MUNICIPALITIES, UH, OR EVEN, UH, PARTNERING UP WITH THE CHURCHES, FINDING A WAY TO, UM, UPDATE THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE IN A WAY I KNOW THIS WOULD BE A COST FOR THE TAXPAYERS, BUT I THINK THIS IS WHERE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO IS TO FIND SOME SAFE HAVENS FOR PEOPLE IN CASE THEY'RE IN.

IF WE GET TO MIDDLEMEN WHETHER LIKE A TRAINEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, GOING TO SOME OF THE LOCAL CHURCHES AND FINDING OUT HOW IT CONSISTS TO UPGRADE SOME OF THEIR FACILITIES AND BEING TAGGED, ABLE TO ACCESS THEM IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

BECAUSE THE HARDEST THING THAT YOU HAVE IN EMERGENCY IS FINDING SOMEONE WITH THE KEYS AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY RECTIFY IF WE PARTNER UP WITH SOME OF THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, BUT, UH, REALLY IT'S, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT.

YOU CAN DO SOMETIMES.

IT'S JUST, UM, IT'S NATURE.

YOU CAN'T CONTROL IT.

IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT IF WE CAN DO THINGS TO BE RETROACTIVE AND KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT THE GO IS.

YOUR THINGS WHERE EVERYBODY'S GO IS JUST TO TRY TO FIND SAFE HEAVEN FOR PEOPLE.

SO MAYBE STARTING SOME PARTNERSHIPS WITH SOME OF THE CHURCHES OR SOME OF THE SCHOOLS AROUND THE AREA, SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO.

YES, SIR.

IF YOU COULD EXPLORE THAT AVENUE WOULD BE GREAT.

UH, THAT'S COUNCIL'S WILL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FUNDING PROPOSAL, AMEND THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 22, 20 23 TO ADD 15,000 IN EXPENDITURES IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COST CENTER FOR IMPLEMENTING A PILOT PROGRAM FOR EMERGENCY STORM SHELTER, THE

[00:30:01]

CITY'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR TO SEEK FEDERAL OR STATE FUNDING AND, OR, UH, TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM IF DETERMINED, NECESSARY, BASED ON THE PILOT PROGRAM AND REDUCE THE FUND BALANCE AND THE GENERAL FUND BY THE SAME AMOUNT, SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER FLOORS, KALE SECONDED BY CUSTOMER TOBY.

IS, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO OTHER ITEMS. I HAVE A COUPLE.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE KYLE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

SO WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS, UM, UH, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE KYLE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

UH, IT IS, UM, THE WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED BY, UH, HUD REGARDING THEIR REACT SCORES AND TRYING TO GET THE PETE DRESS AND HOUSING UP, UH, TO, UH, PASSING GRADES SO THAT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE THERE CAN STAY, UH, STAY THERE AND CONTINUE TO RECEIVE SUBSIDIES.

UH, THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE POSSIBLE FROM THE CITY'S STANDPOINT IN TERMS OF ENGAGING REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

UH, WE HAVE LEARNED THAT, UH, THE OWNERSHIP OF THE, UH, UNDERLYING LAND, UM, IS TIED TO, UH, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND AS SUCH A REDEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS, IS NOT THAT LIKELY TO HAPPEN.

UH, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, HOWEVER, TO, UH, INVEST IN THE P DRESSING HOUSING, UH, BY DOING TWO THINGS, UH, ONE, UM, UH, POTENTIALLY PUTTING, UH, SOME FUNDS TOWARDS UPGRADES, UH, TO GET THE UNITS, UH, MORE LIVABLE, UH, AND IN BETTER CONDITIONS AND TO HELPING THEM TO PAY OFF THEIR DEBT THAT THEY INCURRED BACK IN 1976, I BELIEVE, UH, IT STILL HAS A BALANCE.

UH I'VE UM, WE HAVE HAD, I THINK MAYOR PRO TEM HAS HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY AND WE DO BELIEVE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A MATCH IF WE WERE TO BRING $50,000 TO THE TABLE, UH, TO INVEST IN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

UM, IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THE COUNTY WOULD ALSO INVEST, UH, THIS VOTE THAT WE TAKE RIGHT NOW WOULD NOT BE TO SPEND THE MONEY, BUT SIMPLY TO BUDGET IT AND THEN EACH EXPENDITURE WOULD COME BACK FOR FURTHER SCRUTINY.

UM, SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S A GENERAL OPENNESS, UH, WHAT I WANTED TO PROPOSE WAS TO ALLOCATE FUNDS, UH, ASSUMING THAT THE, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR SAYS THAT SUCH FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE, UH, TO POTENTIALLY PAY OFF THE DEBT OF 178,000 180 7, UH, AS WELL AS 50,000, UH, FOR, UH, UPGRADES AND WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT POTENTIAL PROPOSAL CUSTOMER FORCE KILL.

THANK YOU.

UM, I AM INTERESTED IN THIS IDEA AND MY QUESTION TO PEREZ IS GOING TO BE THIS YEAR.

WE ALLOCATED SOME MONEY, OR I GUESS IT LAST YEAR FOR THIS YEAR FOR THE STATE LOBBYIST, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE EVER UTILIZED.

IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD TELL ME HOW MUCH OF THAT IS LEFT? MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD? I'M, PREVIS MY CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK IT UP REAL QUICK, IF WE CAN PAUSE FOR JUST FIVE MINUTES.

UH, BUT THAT FUNDING IS ALSO IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, BOTH FOR THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE LOBBYIST.

SO WHAT W SO THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE FROM LAST YEAR, OR THIS YEAR THAT WE JUST GOING TO MOVE OVER, I GOT WHAT I'M CONFUSED.

WE WILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDING IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, BUT IF WE DIDN'T USE IT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, UH, THE FEDERAL LAB IS WE HAVE, WE HAVE EXPENDED AT THE STATE DOLLARS.

NO, WE HAVE NOT EXPENDED ANY.

OKAY.

SO HOW MUCH IS THAT? 1, 120 8,000.

AND HOW MUCH IS IT THIS YEAR? 128,000.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOUGH, I GUESS THE 180 7 IN THE 50, AT LEAST 1 28 FROM THE FUNDS THAT WE DIDN'T UTILIZE THIS YEAR, UM, BE APPLIED TOWARD THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, IF ANYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED.

WELL, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, UH, I WASN'T AWARE THAT THAT THAT WAS IN THERE.

SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THIS COUNCIL HAS GOT THAT.

UM, HAS IT TOP OF MIND TO ENGAGE THE SECOND, UH, UH, LOBBYIST.

SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD SOURCE TO, UH, ADD, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO TO BE CLEAR ON THIS COURSE, CAROL, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THE REMAINING BALANCE FROM THIS COMING YEAR FOR THE LOBBYIST TO GO TOWARDS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, TO BE ABLE TO USE IT, TO UTILIZE THAT IF WE ACTUALLY DO BOTH, IT'LL GIVE US 2 56, THAT SHOULD COVER ALL

[00:35:01]

OF IT.

OKAY.

SO YOU WANT TO ELIMINATE THE FEDERAL AUDIENCE YOU'RE SAYING USING THIS YEARS PLUS NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

WELL, IT DOESN'T, IT DIDN'T WORK THAT WAY BECAUSE LAST YEARS, IT'S NOT THAT YOU ONLY HAVE ONE 20 AND PREVIOUS CAN EXPLAIN YOU WERE ONLY GOING TO HAVE THE 1 28 TO PLAY WITH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO THIS YEAR'S FUND BALANCE INCLUDES THE UNEXPENDED STATE LOBBYIST FUNDS.

SO IT HAS ALREADY BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO ALL WE HAVE IS $128,000.

OKAY.

AND IF YOU DON'T SPEND LAST YEAR'S DOLLARS, THEY, THEY, IT DOESN'T DOUBLE UP.

IT'S THIS IT'S SWEEPS TO THE SCORE, PREVENTS SQUIRRELS IT AWAY.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AMOUNT BE APPLIED, UM, TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WESTERN CASPER PORCELAIN.

WELL, THE COUNTY MATCH MORE THAN 50.

NO, I DON'T.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I THINK THERE, WE COULD GO BACK AND ASK THEM AS THE DYESS, BUT I THINK THE DISCUSSION WAS A 50,000 RIGHT NOW.

WE COULD ALWAYS OPEN UP THAT DISCUSSION AND ASK, I MEAN, THERE'S NO HARM IN ASKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THAT'S WHAT THE WILL OF THE DIOCESE, WELL, IF THE, THEY HAVE THIS ALMOST $200,000, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO A 50,000, THAT THEY WILL MATCH FOR REPAIRS, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT WILL PUT THEM JUST TO BARE MINIMUM OPERATIONS.

THE IT'S ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD NEED WOULD BE SLIGHTLY OVER A HUNDRED.

SO IT WOULDN'T EVEN QUITE COVER IT, BUT IT WOULD GET CLOSE AND IT WOULD GET THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WOULD, UH, NOW BE ABLE TO PASS ALL THEIR INSPECTIONS.

UH, AND IS THAT THROUGH HUD, RIGHT? HI, JERRY.

YEAH.

THROUGH HER SURELY THEY WOULDN'T BE CONDEMNED.

SO ONCE THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE A 60 ON THEIR INSPECTION, THAT OPENS UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THINGS LIKE A RENT ANALYSIS, WHERE THEY COULD PETITION HAD TO INCREASE THE VOUCHER AMOUNT THAT THEY RECEIVE FOR THE PEOPLE RENTING THERE, WHICH RIGHT NOW WE ESTIMATE THAT TO BE ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT THEY'RE RECEIVING.

NOW, ONCE YOU PAY OFF THE DEBT, THAT'S A $4,000 A MONTH CASH FLOW THAT THEY CAN ADD TO THEIR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY.

SO, BUT, UH, THE KEY THING IS GETTING THAT REACT, SCORE UP TO OPEN UP THESE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO RAISE MONEY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN TRY TO GET A COUNTY TO GO TO 75 AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TO MATCH THAT AND THEN JUST GET THEM TO LIKE, GET BACK MOVING.

THAT WOULD BE MY, YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK THIS WOULD BE AN UNBUDGETED AMOUNT FROM THE COUNTY THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY OPEN UP THAT DIALOGUE.

YEAH.

JEREMY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND REACHING OUT TO THEM AND GETTING A CONVERSATION STARTED IN ANY ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M SURE ANY COUNSELOR HERE WOULD LOVE TO BE THERE IN THAT MEETING WITH YOU IF YOU NEED US.

SO WITHOUT THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE STILL NEED 109,000.

SO, UM, DO WE JUST WANT TO BUDGET THAT? AND THEN IF WE DO, I DON'T WANT TO COUNT GO FORWARD COUNTING ON THE COUNTY IN CASE THEY SAY NO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, COLLECTIVELY, THEY HAVE TO GO ON THERE AND MAKE THAT DECISION.

SO THE 50, SO WE CAN PROBABLY HELP THEM WITH 50 IT'S.

SO ELIMINATE THE 50.

WHAT ARE WE AT THERE? IF WE WENT WITH THE 50 OF THE PAPER, I'LL BE 59 ALTOGETHER.

THAT WILL HAPPEN.

SO IF WE HAVE 1 28 FROM A LOBBYISTS.

YEAH.

AND THEN IF THEY, I REALLY HATE TO SAY THAT WITHOUT HAVING THEM THEN WE'LL NEED 50,000, 59,000 LEFTOVER.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S CAN WE LET'S GET THE EXACT NUMBERS CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE AN EXACT MOTION.

SO I THINK WE'RE, LET'S GET IT FROM PREVENTICE.

OH, SO IF I COULD JUST, IF YOU'RE DONE CASPER, OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO, UH, ELABORATE WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.

SO AS WE'RE GROWING AS A CITY, WE'RE DEFINITELY, UM, PRICES ARE GOING UP.

PEOPLE ARE COMING TO KYLE, WE'VE GOT VERY LITTLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LEFT FOR PEOPLE, UM, THAT HAVE LOWER INCOMES.

AND THE TWO HOUSING AUTHORITIES THAT ARE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY, UH, GONE WITH STAFF AND, AND LOOKED AT THE, UH, THE BUILDINGS AND SAW HOW DISARRAY THEY WERE.

AND IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT.

I'M PRETTY SURE THE DIOCESE, AS WELL AS PRESERVING THESE BUILDINGS, THESE HOUSES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN KYLE.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS HOUSING PROJECT, UH, COME BACK TO A FRUITION AND ALLOW IT TO GROW AND, AND TO, UH, MAINTAIN A LONGEVITY BECAUSE WE NEED THIS KIND OF HOUSING WE NEED.

UM, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE AS WELL, SO, OKAY.

SO THE PROPOSAL ON THE FLOOR BEFORE THE MOTION IS $50,000 FOR REPAIRS, CITY'S SHARE OF REPAIRS TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, 75,

[00:40:04]

SO, OKAY.

AND THEN $187,000 FOR THE PAYOFF OF THE LOAN TO HUD.

AND DID, DID WE EVER GET AN EXACT PAYOFF AND AN ACTUAL FROM, FROM THE USDA OR THE, OKAY, SO LET'S MAKE THAT 180 8 AND THERE'S NO PENALIZATION FOR PAYING EARLY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, THE LOBBYISTS, THE STATE PORTION OF THE LOBBYIST BUDGET IS 1 28.

SO $75,000 FOR REPAIRS, CITY SHARE AND HUNTER AND $88,000 FOR LOAN PAYOFF TO HUD, THAT TOTALS $263,000, WE WILL BE USING $128,000 FROM THE STATE LOBBYISTS FUNDING TO OFFSET.

THAT LEAVES US A BALANCE OF ONE THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY 5,000.

ALRIGHT.

THESE ARE ONE TIME.

IS IT B, B A ONE-TIME EXPENDITURE? YES, SIR.

BE LIKE A CIP ON AN ONGOING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE ROOM FOR? AND THEN WE COULD FUND IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND ENDING BALANCE.

ISN'T THAT NEGATIVE? NO, NO, NOT THE FUN BALANCED NINE.

I WAS READING IT.

I'M CONFUSED.

I THOUGHT IT WAS, I THOUGHT IT WAS NEGATIVE 7 MILLION.

DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN IT TO ME? WE WOULD NOT PROPOSE A BUDGET THAT HAD A NEGATIVE, FUN.

I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF WEIRD.

ALL RIGHT.

I I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 22, 20 23 TO ADD $263,000 FOR, UM, UH, 188,000 PAYOFF OF KYLE HOUSING AUTHORITIES.

UH, LONG-TERM DEBT AND $75,000 FOR, UH, INVESTMENT IN, UH, REHABILITATION OF THE P DRESS AND HOUSING INTO REDUCE THE, UH, LOBBYISTS BUDGET BY $128,000 TO ELIMINATE THE APPROPRIATION FOR STATE LOBBYISTS AND TO REDUCE THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE BY $135,000.

OKAY.

MOTION BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

CAN WE GET MORE DEFINITE NUMBERS BY THE, ARE WE VOTING TONIGHT? IS THIS FINAL? WE'RE PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET TONIGHT.

WE'RE NOT PAYING OFF TONIGHT.

WE'RE NOT REHABILITATING TONIGHT, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO BE AT WORK.

BUT WHAT THIS WILL DO IS IT'LL ALLOW FOR US TO SEND A LETTER TO HUD, WHO IS EXPECTING A LETTER FROM US, A SIGNALING THAT WHAT OUR INTENT IS, WHICH IS GOING TO GIVE THEM THAT COMFORT.

THEY NEED TO KEEP GOING FORWARD WITH US.

OKAY.

SO IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.

UH, ANY OTHER ITEMS BEFORE I GO TO MY SECOND? ALRIGHT.

MY SECOND IS COUNCIL COMPENSATION.

UH, I ACTUALLY WANT TO, UH, SAY THAT, I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME I PROBABLY HAVE, UH, COME TO SEE, UH, WHAT MS. ROSEBURG HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE NATURE OF MAKING, UH, THE JOB FULL-TIME AND IN PARTICULAR, THE, THE JOB OF MAYOR I'VE WORKED REALLY HARD FOR SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

UH, BUT THE THOUGHT OF IT BEING A FULL-TIME JOB COULD SORT OF CHANGE IN THE PRESET.

UH, THE ABILITY, I THINK OF SOMEONE WHO MIGHT WANT TO RUN FOR THIS POSITION TO FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO GIVE UP THEIR CAREER IN ORDER TO DO SO.

AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME I'D HEARD THAT ARGUMENT.

UH, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY COMPELLING.

UH, THAT SAID, I DO STILL BELIEVE THAT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE COUNCIL HAS, UH, A, UM, UH, ONLY TAKES UP THIS ITEM ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS.

UM, AND, UM, THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO CONSIDER, UH, THE FACT THAT THE, UH, THE DEMANDS ON THIS JOB OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST THREE YEARS HAVE RISEN, UH, THAT IS INDISPUTABLE.

AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO HAS DISPUTED THAT THE HOURS HAVE GONE AND, AND, UH, HAVE GONE UP, UH, AND ALSO COSTS HAVE GONE UP.

AND SO THE, THE SALARY THAT WE ARE GIVEN, UH, FOR THE JOB, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE, UH, IS TO THE LEVEL OF, UM, BEING GREEDY, UH, FOR THE WORK.

I THINK THAT IT'S A PRETTY LOW AMOUNT

[00:45:01]

COMPARED TO WHAT THE WORK IS.

UH, AND I THINK THAT IS OKAY.

UM, BUT I DID AGREE WITH MS. BURKE'S PROPOSAL OF, UH, THE, UH, THE $500.

UM, I COULD, UH, UH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT LESS THAN A FULL-TIME AMOUNT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD PUT THE COUNSEL TO 1500 AND THE MAYOR TO 1800 WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WOULD DRAW ANY INTEREST FROM THE DIOCESE CUSTOMER FORCE CAMP.

ALL RIGHT.

SO TRY TO LOOK FROM THE PAPERS.

UM, SO I KNOW OVERALL THERE'S AN INCREASE OF $130,000.

SO THE, MY QUESTION IS INSTEAD OF AN INCREASE A SALARY, IF WE CREATE A STIPEND FOR EXPENSES, WHICH THAT SORT OF A STIPEND IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR EXPENSES, THAT COULD ALSO BE LATER ON, IF WE DEEM IT NOT NECESSARY, WE COULD ALWAYS EXCLUDE IT, BUT MAYBE TAKEN AWAY THE MILEAGE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE ONE OTHER THING TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT.

SO IT'S NOT A SALARY INCREASE, BUT IT'S A STIPEND.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO ANYBODY JUST SO WE KNOW STIPENDS ARE NOT TAXED.

SO YOU'D BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO? UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT EXACTLY WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, BUT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IS IT CREATE A LINE ITEM THAT IS A STIPEND AND THEN REDUCE THE EXPENSES BY TOTAL EXPENSES FROM EACH COUNCIL'S BUDGET BY THE SAME AMOUNT.

CORRECT.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SUBMIT IN BURST REIMBURSEMENTS FOR.

IT'S JUST A RIGHT.

SO THE, OKAY, SO THE UPSIDE IS, UM, NO GAS.

LIKE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO INPUT GAS FOR THE MILEAGE, BUT THE DOWN PART IS IF YOU USE MORE GAS, YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY MORE MONEY.

YOU'RE JUST GOING TO GET THIS FLAT FEE AMOUNT.

UM, WHEREAS IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE, THEY'LL HAVE THAT AMOUNT AS WELL.

WELL, THE, THE DISCUSSION ON THE MILEAGE, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE JUST A TOTAL.

IT WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN THE TOTAL BUDGET.

THE MILEAGE IS, YOU KNOW, WE, EVERYBODY, AS YOU SAID, WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND EVEN MS. BURKE KIND OF COMMENTED THAT EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY, UH, COUNCIL EXPENSES THAT ARE MEANINGFUL TO THEM AND DIFFERENT NEEDS.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD COME FROM A VARIETY OF PLACES, BUT IT JUST NEEDS TO BE THAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT GETS REDUCED.

BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE THAT IT IN THE FORM OF A STIPEND I'M ASKING STAFF, UH, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT IT.

SO IF I'M HEARING CORRECTLY, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, PLEASE, CORRECT ME.

YOU'RE SUGGESTING A STIPEND FOR, LET'S SAY THE USE OF PERSONAL VEHICLE, RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CAR ALLOWANCE IF IT IS A CAR ALLOWANCE AND IT'S A SET AMOUNT EACH MONTH GIVEN TO A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO BASED ON IRS RULES AND REGULATIONS, THAT WOULD BE A TAXABLE INCOME TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER OR TO THE MAYOR.

AND FOR US ON OUR SIDE OF THE LEDGER, THE CITY SIDE OF THE LEDGER, IT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR COMPENSATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CALCULATE PAYROLL TAXES ON.

OKAY.

WHAT IF IT WAS FOR PRINTER LIKE INK, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING, WHETHER IT'S CAR LOUNGE, CLOTHING, ALLOWANCE, UH, OFFICE EXPENSE ALLOWANCE, ANY ALLOWANCE WOULD BE CONSIDERED PART OF YOUR COMPENSATION.

WELL, IT COULD BE, IT, COULD IT BE SEPARATED THOUGH IN TWO DIFFERENT FORMS? SO, BECAUSE OUR COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY HAS SAID AND MENTIONED THAT IN HIS, HE USES THE, UH, THE THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF SOME OF HIS EXPENSES THAT HE DOESN'T CHARGE TO, TO THE CITY.

BUT IT'S REALLY, UH, THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP IS FOR A SALARY.

SO A LOT OF US SAY AS COMPENSATION FOR AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE TIME THAT WE SPEND ON THE JOB, BUT IF WE SEPARATED THAT OUT AND HAD AN ADDITIONAL $500, EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE TAXED, UH, THAT WOULD BE AN EXPENSE ACCOUNT THAT WE COULD THEN USE OR NOT USE.

YES, THAT CAN BE DONE.

IT CAN BE ITEMIZED EACH ONE OF THOSE ALLOWANCE TYPE.

AND THEN MS. BURKE'S PROPOSAL WAS TO REDUCE OUR EXPENSES BY THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT, SO THAT THERE'S NO CHANGE.

THERE'S NO, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY ADJUSTING OUR GENERAL FUND AT ALL.

WE'RE JUST MAKING THAT ALTERATION FROM WITHIN EACH BUDGET, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S BUDGET.

WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO THE COUNCIL? THAT'S WHERE TOBY, UM, UH, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE,

[00:50:01]

BUT, UM, AGAIN, I, I AM NOT, UH, FOR AN INCREASE IN OUR SALARY OR A STIPEND.

UM, NOW I KNOW A LOT OF Y'ALL DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT, BUT, UH, AND THERE'S, THERE ARE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DO HAVE, DO ATTEND MEETINGS AND THEY DO, UH, ATTEND OTHER EVENTS AND WHAT CITY AND ME WITH SO MANY PEOPLE COMPARED TO MYSELF, AND I'M SPEAKING FOR ME.

UH, BUT I, I WANT US TO CONTINUE TO SEE WHAT THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.

UM, IT'S SERVING THE COMMUNITY FROM THE BEGINNING.

OKAY.

I MAY SOUND VERY OLD SCHOOL AGAIN.

UH, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MONEY IT GETS, OR THE F THE FINANCES OF THE STIPEND, IT GETS VERY, VERY SENSITIVE TO THE TAXPAYERS AND THE RESIDENTS.

UM, CAUSE IT IS AN HONOR TO BE UP HERE TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, TO BE SERVING THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I NEVER LOOKED AT THIS AS A WAY FOR ME TO MAKE EXTRA MONEY IN SERVING THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE THAT USE THAT, THAT DO TRAVEL AND THEY WERE ALL PEOPLE WHO MAYBE USE THEIR FUNDS FOR, UM, FOR THEIR PRINTER OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

UH, BUT THIS WILL BE JUST MY SAY, I, I KIND OF WANT TO KEEP IT WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT AGAIN, EVERYBODY'S DIFFERENT ON THAT END.

RIGHT.

EVERYBODY USES THEIR STIPEND A DIFFERENT WAY.

UM, AND ALSO THE, THERE IN THERE ARE PEOPLE.

YES, YOU DO.

MAYOR.

YOU DO WORK A LOT.

I DO KNOW AT TIMES I'VE TRIED TO REACH YOU AND YOU'RE NOT AVAILABLE CAUSE YOU'RE IN A MEETING OR SOMEWHERE.

AND I DO SEE THAT, UH, IT'S JUST FOR ME, I PREFER TO, JUST TO HAVE IT AS THE SAME, AS FAR AS THE STIPEND IN, IN, AND, UH, WE HAVE CREDIT CARDS, SOME OF YOU GUYS USE THE CREDIT CARDS FOR, FOR YOUR, FOR THE JOB ITSELF.

SO, UH, I JUST, FOR ME, IT'S JUST CONFLICTING TO SEE WHERE THE INCREASE COMES INTO PLAY TO WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL, I'LL PUT A LOT OF HOURS INTO THIS, SO I SHOULD BE PAID FOR THIS.

AND WHEN IT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, WE'RE HERE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

THE STIPEND IS, UH, AGAIN FOR A LOT OF US, WE USE IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT, UH, THAT'S JUST, JUST MY SAY ON THAT.

UH, IF WE FOLLOWED MS. BURKE'S, UM, RECOMMENDATION OF REDUCING EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, UM, UH, BUDGET OUTLINE ITEM EXPENSES BY 8,000, WHICH CAUSE BECAUSE THE 500 IS 6,000 AND THE DELTA WOULD COVER THE, ANY PAYROLL TAX, UH, CONSIDERATIONS, UM, WOULD, UH, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL, UH, WOULD BE, UH, INTERESTED IN CUSTOMER PARCEL? THANK YOU.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE TO AGREE.

EVERYBODY DOES COUNSEL IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A BEAUTY ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE FOCUSED ON RESIDENTS AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THAT FREEDOM TO SERVE THE CITY AT THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITIES.

SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BUDGETED AND THIS, UM, AND THE BUDGET THAT I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN IN THERE.

I DON'T NEED ANY MEMBERSHIPS THAT I BELIEVE I DON'T.

I HIDE, WE ALREADY HAVE, I HAVE MY IPAD AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I NEED, SO I DON'T NEED ANY HARDWARE ADDITIONAL TO WHAT I HAVE.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD PUT IT TOGETHER IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IN CERTAIN WAY, IF WE WERE TO GET THAT PROPOSED 500 THAT SHE MENTIONED IN THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T USE A MEMBERSHIPS, MAYBE USE IT.

SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ANYBODY ELSE.

SO AGAIN, EVERYBODY DOES COUNSEL THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITIES.

AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S CONSIDERED FOR EVERYONE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE STIPEND WILL WORK, BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE BUDGETED IN HERE THAT I WON'T TOUCH.

SO PREVIOUS IN THE EXPENSE CATEGORY, ON THE LINE ITEMS, UM, IF THERE IS, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS WHERE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EXACTLY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE ITEMIZED EXPENSES PER COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO NO, ONE'S EXACTLY SURE.

AND IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE THE SAME HOW WE WOULD TAKE THE EXPENSES.

SO IN ORDER, I THINK MAYBE THE IDEA WOULD BE TO BALANCE IT OUT WITH THE $8,000 REDUCTION.

HOWEVER, UM, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, OR IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO JUST REDUCE THE TOTAL AMOUNT IN SOME

[00:55:01]

WAY THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS, THERE'S NOT REALLY, WE HAVE TO, IT'S AN ACCOUNTING.

THIS WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

SO WHEN WE WERE PREPARING THE BUDGET, WE TRIED TO STANDARDIZE IT FOR EACH ONE OF THE COUNCIL OFFICES OR DISTRICTS.

SO WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU LOOK AT THE LINE ITEM, THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT FOR EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT.

SO IF YOU WERE TO CONSIDER THAT STIPEND OR ALLOWANCE, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS IN YOUR MOTION SPECIFICALLY, STATE WHAT YOU ARE INCREASING AND GIVE STAFF THE OPTION TO GO THROUGH LINE ITEMS AND ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

SO THE NET RESULT IS ZERO.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, UH, CREATE A $500 PER MONTH OR $6,000 TOTAL INCREASE, UH, FOR, UH, COUNCIL COMPENSATION IN THE FORM OF A, UH, STIPEND, UH, IDENTIFIED FOR EXPENSES, UH, AND TO REDUCE THE, UH, FROM THERE FROM EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, TOTAL EXPENSE BUDGET, UH, AN AMOUNT THAT ALLOWS FOR THE, UH, THE COMPENSATION OR THE COUNCIL, EACH COUNCIL BUDGET TO NOT BE AFFECTED BY THAT CHANGE.

SECOND FOR DISCUSSION MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER PARSLEY.

SO WHAT MS. BERT WAS PROPOSING WAS FOR US TO GET THE $500, 6,000 YEARLY INCREASE AND BRING DOWN THE BUDGET $8,000.

WILL THAT BE THE MOTION? WELL, THE, THE REDUCTION IN EXPENSES WILL BE MORE THAN 6,000 BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PAYROLL, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A FINITE CALCULATIONS WHAT PERVEZ IS SAYING.

SO IT'S NOT AN EXACT NUMBER.

I, THE WAY I READ MISS BERK'S COMMENTS WERE, WAS THAT IT WAS, UH, SHE INCREASED OVER THE EXPENSE AMOUNT, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS COVERING THAT ADDITIONAL, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL PAYROLL COSTS.

SO THE MOTION THAT I MADE WAS TO HAVE IT BE A NET ZERO ON OUR BUDGET.

OKAY.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD WE REMOVE THEN? CAUSE I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I AM NOT NONE OF THE HAPPY ABOUT THE LEGAL SERVICES, ALL OF A SUDDEN BEING JUST $5,000.

UM, I THINK IF THERE'S AN INCREASE, WELL ACTUALLY, IF I COULD ASK PEREZ, THERE'S AN INCREASE OF 129, I THINK, THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR COUNCIL.

CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THAT INCREASED CAME FROM? SURE.

SO THE BOTTOM LINE FOR ALL SEVEN COST CENTERS INCREASED BY 129,906.

AND HERE ARE THE MAJOR ITEMS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THAT INCREASE MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT 24,570 MEMBERSHIP AND USE 26,980 SUBSCRIPTION AND BOOKS, 16,005 50 LEGAL SERVICES, 25,000 GENERAL OFFICE SUPPLIES, 19,500 CITY SPONSORED EVENT SUPPLIES, 9,865, FOOD AND MEALS, 48,600 COMPUTER HARDWARE, 9,500.

SO THOSE WERE THE INCREASES.

NOW LET ME GIVE YOU THE DECREASES CAUSE SOME LINE ITEMS ALSO DECREASED TRAVEL CITY COUNCIL, $1,000 DECREASE TRAVEL FOR P AND Z COMMISSION.

IT USED TO BE BUDGETED IN MARIN MAYOR AND COUNCIL'S COST CENTER.

WE HAVE MOVED IT OUT TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THAT WAS A DECREASE OF 2020 5,788

[01:00:02]

ADVERTISING REDUCED BY 4,000 KAYAK.

THE FUNDING FOR KAYAK WAS USED TO BE IN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL'S COST CENTER.

WE HAVE REMOVED THAT.

THAT WAS $10,000 REDUCTION.

HE DIDN'T PUT IT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE IT'S JUST GONE.

NOW THE KAYAK, UH, EXPENSES.

YES.

AND DIDN'T CONSULTING SERVICES.

NO, SORRY.

FACILITATOR A THIRD PARTIES FACILITATOR SERVICES.

UH, WE REDUCED IT BY 6,000 RENAMING OF REBEL ROAD GRANT PROGRAM.

THAT WAS A ONE-TIME GRANT THAT COUNCIL HAD SET ASIDE $5,346 REDUCTION.

SO IF YOU ADD AND SUBTRACT THOSE ITEMS THAT I JUST CALLED OUT SHOULD RESULT IN A NET INCREASE OF $129,906.

K.

I'M NOT A FAN OF TAKING OUT KAYAK.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO PUT THAT BACK IN THERE AND BALANCE IT OUT.

OKAY.

LET ME CORRECT.

THAT KAYAK IS STILL AT 10,000, BUT IT'S NOT IN MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE MOVED IT TO A SEPARATE DO AWAY WITH IT.

NO, IT'S SCARY.

IS IT FOR A MINUTE? IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM PARSLEY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, SORRY.

REGARDING THE LEGAL FEES.

SINCE WE HAVE THOSE 5,000 ALLOCATED, CAN WE PICK OUR OWN LEGAL ADVICE WITH OUR OWN ATTORNEYS? I'M SORRY.

I HEARD A GASP OVER THERE.

SO FROM LAILA, I'M JUST ASKING, WHAT WAS YOUR, I'M SORRY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN IS I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY ATTORNEYS GET PAID DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH WE UTILIZE THEM.

RIGHT.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IS SINCE WE HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF LOCATED, COULD WE PICK, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE TO WANT TO GET ADVICE FROM A DIFFERENT ATTORNEY, NOTHING AGAINST YOU PAGE, I'M JUST LIKE ASKING QUESTIONS.

IS THAT SOMETHING I COULD DO? NO.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY UNDER CONTRACT.

THAT'S WHO WE GO FOR LEGAL ADVICE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH.

I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THE $5,000 FOR LEGAL SERVICES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO ADJUST THAT, BUT I DO NOT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT REPRESENTS A DISTRICT TO WANT TO BE LIMITED BY THE LEGAL ADVICE THAT I CAN ASK.

OKAY.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT USED TO, WHAT, HOW DID IT USED TO LOOK PEREZ IN THE SENSE OF LEGAL FEES IN PRIOR YEARS, LEGAL FEES WERE ALL BUDGETED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S COST CENTER.

SO IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO PINPOINT WHO WAS SPENDING HOW MUCH ON LEGAL FEES.

SO WE HAVE SLOWLY MOVED INTO WHERE EACH CITY DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THEIR OWN LEGAL FEES.

AND WE TRIED, WE'VE TRIED TO DO THAT WITH MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS WELL WITH THE NEW BUDGET.

YEAH, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS SINCE WE APPROVE THE CONTRACTS AND HOW ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKING SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE LAWS, UM, I WOULD HATE TO SEE US LIMITED LIKE, OH, I'M AT $4,950.

I ONLY GOT $50 A MONTH WORTH OF ADVICE I CAN GET, I DON'T WANT TO BLESS YOU.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT.

I DON'T JERRY.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS EVER GOING TO BE YOUR IT'S AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S DESIGNED TO BE SUCH WHERE YOU'RE MONITORING EXACTLY WHAT BUT MORE OF JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY SO THAT WE CAN SEE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THINGS GET BUILT SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHICH DEPARTMENTS AND, AND HOW, HOW THE BILLING IS FLOWING.

UH, I DON'T THINK AT ANY POINT THERE WOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE OUR LEGAL ADVICE WOULD BE INHIBITED BASED ON HOW THE COST CENTERS ARE SET UP.

IT WOULD NOT.

AND LEGAL ADVICE FOR THINGS THAT ARE GENERAL CITY BUSINESS COMES OUT OF MY LINE ITEM OR ALLOCATED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD ALLOCATE IT TO DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT WE WOULD NEVER SHORTCHANGE OURSELVES ON SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE.

THAT IF WE APPROACHED A LIMIT ON A LINE ITEM FOR LEGAL ADVICE, WE WOULD COME TO COUNCIL AND ALLOCATE MORE MONEY.

RIGHT.

I, I D I DON'T THINK THAT, YEAH, THERE'S NOT, IT'S, THERE'S NO RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.

YOU CAN PUT IT ALL UNDER ONE BUDGET OR YOU CAN SPREAD IT ALL OUT THAT THE ACTUAL LEGAL SERVICES THAT ARE RENDERED TO THE CITY DON'T CHANGE.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR THAT'S CORRECT.

SO I WOULD LIKE ALL THAT ON THE RECORD.

POLICE

[01:05:01]

WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS IN THERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE, UM, EVERYBODY KNOWS.

I LIKE TO ASK MY QUESTIONS AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, YOU'VE REACHED YOUR LIMIT.

NOW.

YOU CAN'T ASK ANY MORE.

IT'S JUST IN THE PAST, IT WOULD JUST HAVE BEEN ONE LARGE ITEM FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS WELL.

BUT BECAUSE WE'VE GONE TO THE COST CENTER APPROACH WHERE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THEIR OWN A BUDGET, THEN IT JUST THERE'S JUST NO RIGHT OR WRONG NECESSARILY WAY TO DO IT.

BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THIS WOULD APPLY IF A COUNCIL MEMBER CONTACTED THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING AN ISSUE THAT THAT WOULD BE BILLED TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FOR MAKING THAT CALL OR EMAIL.

RIGHT.

WE HAVE A BILLING CODE FOR CITY COUNCIL, AND IT'S NOT BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST CITY COUNCIL.

AND THAT'S HOW WE SEND THE BILL OUT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GETS ALLOCATED FROM THERE.

SO IT'S JUST TO, NOT TO SPECIFIC COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST THE GENERAL CATEGORY.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THERE COULD BE MERIT TO MOVING THAT OR TO COLLECTING THAT INTO A DIFFERENT COST CENTER.

I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO IT.

I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO TANGLE THAT ITEM UP WITH THE CURRENT ITEM, CAUSE THEY'RE ALL CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS. UM, SO CAN WE TAKE A VOTE ON THE CURRENT MOTION TO AMEND, AND THEN IF WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE MOVING LEGAL FEES AROUND, WE CAN HAVE THAT.

THAT'S WHY I HAVE ONE OTHER THING TOO, THAT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS IF THAT'S OKAY.

AND IT'S, UM, IT'S HARD.

IT'S I DON'T WANT TO DO IT FOR ANY PARTICULAR MAYOR IN GENERAL.

UM, BUT MY THOUGHT WAS OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, UM, TO SEE EVERYBODY WHO HAS A PASSION AND A LOVE FOR THIS POSITION, WHETHER IT BE A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A MAYOR, UH, BE ABLE TO, UM, TO APPLY.

AND IN THE EVENT THEY APPLY AND THEY WIN THE SPOT FOR MAYOR.

UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR THEM IS THE ABILITY SINCE THEY ARE THE FACE OF THE CITY TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UM, MONEY TO A LOT THEM, UM, SO THEY COULD BUY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SUIT TO WEAR, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A NICE OUTFIT TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE THINGS.

UM, AND THAT'S, AGAIN, VERY GENERALIZED BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT WHO DECIDES TO RUN FOR MAYOR AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO, UM, FEEL LIKE THEY CAN'T.

IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO ASK FOR MONEY FOR A POSITION THAT, UM, IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO ASK FOR MONEY FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR CLOTHING.

CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF CLOTHING'S EVER, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T GET IT, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO HINDER ANYBODY IN THE FUTURE WHO WANTS TO RUN FOR MAYOR AND IT HAS TO BE THE FACE OF THE CITY.

UM, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO COME TO REALITY WITH IS YES, THEY HAVE TO GO ON TV, THEY HAVE TO GIVE INTERVIEWS, THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE NEWSPAPER.

UM, AND THEY, THEY REPRESENT OUR CITY.

AND SO IN THE EVENT, COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME SORT OF YEARLY ALLOWANCE FOR CLOTHING FOR THE MAYOR, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD IT OR AMEND IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT PRICE.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE VOTE ON THIS ONE AND THEN DISCUSS THAT.

I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING PROPOSAL, BUT IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL CALL ON THE MOTION TO AMEND.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER STATEMENTS ON THE MOST RECENT IT'S A TWO MAN, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT DO WE MANY, ONE MORE TIME, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO.

SO THE ONLY THE IT'S ON THE TABLE AS A MOTION TO AMEND, TO ADD $500 A MONTH IN A STIPEND, AND THEN TO RE, TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION, TO REDUCE $500 A MONTH IN EXPENSES.

UH, SO THAT THE BUDGET STAYS AT ZERO.

SO THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, BUT THERE IS A CHANGE TO WHERE THE COST CENTERS.

SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANGE TO THE COMPENSATION AMOUNT.

TH THAT THE INK THERE IS A CHANGE TO THE, IT WOULD BE A W2 INCOME OF 500 COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL AND THEN A REDUCTION IN EXPENSES.

AND IT'S NOT AS A SALARY.

IT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A STIPEND FOR EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS, NOT A SALARY.

ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL, VOTE, FRAGILE.

I RIZZO.

COULD YOU STATE THAT MOTION ONE MORE TIME? I'M STILL TRYING TO GUYS, I'M SORRY IF WE JUST WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

OKAY.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A TOTAL OF 6,500 A MONTH INCREASE FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, COST CENTER IN THE FORM OF A, A STIPEND, WHICH TAXES WILL BE TAKEN OUT.

SO IT WOULD BE REPORTED AS W2 INCOME, BUT IT WILL BE FOR, UH, ALLOCATED OR FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXPENSES.

UM, AND THE, OUR EXPENSE BUDGET WILL BE REDUCED BY

[01:10:01]

THE SAME AMOUNT SO THAT THE NET EFFECT IS ZERO.

BUT YOUR, THE INCOME THAT YOU RECEIVE WILL INCREASE BY 500, I GUESS THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO.

SO INSTEAD OF 1000, WE WILL GET THE 1500 MINUS TAXES MINUS TAXES.

YES.

OKAY.

BUT YOUR EXPENSE BUDGET GOES DOWN.

SO THE THOUGHT IS THAT YOU, YOU WOULD BE EXPECTED TO REIMBURSE YOURSELF FOR SOME EXPENSES THERE.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

WE'LL DO IT.

OKAY.

ROLL CALL.

BRAD SHOT BEDDED.

I HAVE RIZZO.

OH, HI MITCHELL.

ALL RIGHT.

NO FLORES, KALE PARSLEY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO TWO CUSTOMER FLOW SCALE.

DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? AH, YES.

SORRY.

UM, SO AGAIN, UM, THIS WAS JUST IN THINKING IN GENERAL OF WE'VE WE'RE TOLD ALL THE TIME, THIS IS WHAT WE DO.

THIS IS WE'RE SERVANTS.

WE'RE UP HERE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

WE'RE NOT UP HERE.

THIS IS NOT A JOB, EXCEPT FOR IN THE CHARTER.

IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT, UM, THE MAYOR DOES HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ROLE.

AND IN THAT HE IS KIND OF IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE WHOEVER'S MAYOR, UM, UH, CLOTHING STIPEND TO ALLOW THEM TO, UM, BUY A NICE OUTFIT OR TWO EVERY YEAR, OR I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN EVEN DO IT ONCE.

IF YOU'RE ELECTED ONCE THEN X AMOUNT FOR THREE YEARS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YEARLY.

I'M JUST WANT TO START THE CONVERSATION.

WELL, I WILL SAY THAT WHEN I WAS ELECTED, I WENT TO MEN'S WAREHOUSE AND BOUGHT THREE SUITS.

UH, CITY DIDN'T PAY FOR THEM.

I DID, BUT IT WAS $1,300.

SO THAT'S, I REMEMBER HOW MUCH IT WAS BECAUSE IT BLEW MY MIND HOW MUCH TO SPEND MONEY ON SUITS.

CAUSE I WASN'T A SUIT WHERE BEFORE I KINDA LEFT IT, I, UH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I, I, I THINK THAT WEARING SUITS AS PART OF THE JOB, AND THERE WERE TIMES WHEN THE COUNCIL WOULD WEAR, UH, BACK IN THE DAY, THE STORY WAS COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD COME UP IN BOARD SHORTS AND FLIP FLOPS.

AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS, UH, INAPPROPRIATE, BUT IN PARTICULAR FOR THE MAYOR.

SO I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR CONCEPT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL WANTS TO DO MY PART TIP.

YEAH.

UM, YEAH, I CAN AGREE WITH YOU.

I, WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, THE FIRST THING I DID WAS GOVERNMENT'S WAREHOUSE AS WELL AND BUY A BUNCH OF SUITS.

BUT I THINK THE LAST VOTE THAT WE TOOK, UH, LISTENING TO YOU, THINKING ABOUT MORE OR HAVING TO TAKE THAT COST.

I THINK THE VOTE WE TOOK PREVIOUSLY TO THIS WOULD PROBABLY, UH, UM, REIMBURSE THEM FOR THAT, WITH THAT STIPEND.

SO I THINK THAT STIPEND WOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET THAT DONE.

UH, SO I THINK I'M, I DON'T THINK I COULD SUPPORT IT ANYMORE.

I THINK THAT STIPEND ALREADY WOULD, UH, JUSTIFY FOR THAT.

AND JUST MY OPINION.

ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? YES.

UH, I WOULDN'T, I'M NOT IN, IN THE MIND FOR SUPPORTING THAT AGAIN.

WE'RE GETTING STIPENDS.

OKAY.

I, IS IT, YOU KNOW, WE CALL IT A SALARY, WE CALL IT A SIPHON.

UH, YOU DO UTILIZE THAT MONEY THAT, UH, THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE FOUR YEAR SUITS FOR YOUR SHIRTS.

I, AGAIN, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, UH, AS A CAUSE IF I NEEDED A TIE OR CURSES, IT COMES OUT OF MY OWN, BUT I USE MY STIPEND FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I, I PERSONALLY USE IF, IF I NEED DRY CLEANING AND SO FORTH, THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYERS.

EVERYBODY.

WE HAVE TO BE REMEMBERING THAT EVERY LITTLE CHANGE WE'RE MAKING HERE, WHETHER IT'S A $5,000 OR $500,000, UH, IT'S THEIR MONEY.

IT'S, IT'S EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE'S MONEY.

AND I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO LOOK NICE.

WE WANT TO LOOK THIS WAY.

AND I KNOW I'M STILL STUMPED OF THIS $48,000 IN MEALS.

HOW DID THAT COME UP? UM, THAT'S YEAH, AVERAGE IS ABOUT $6,800 A YEAR, ALMOST $570 A MONTH.

I MEAN, I THOUGHT I WAS A BIG SPINNER THAT ONE DAY USING MY CREDIT CARD AT ONE TIME FOR $11 AND 25 CENTS AT A SONIC.

AND, UH, THAT WAS JUST ADDING EXTRA GEES, BUT STILL I'M JUST, UH, I'M AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT US AS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND, AND BE CONSCIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY ON AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO US, BECAUSE I THINK, AGAIN, THE HONOR FOR US IS TO BE HERE TO BE ELECTED, TO REPRESENT THESE PEOPLE.

AND YOU, AGAIN, THIS IS ME USING YOUR STIPEND MONEY, WHETHER IT'S $200 OVER IT OR A THOUSAND DOLLARS OF IT.

SO YOU COULD LOOK PRESENTABLE WITH YOUR HAIRCUT OR YOUR HAIR DONE, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE IS JUST THE WAY I LOOK AT IT AS UTILIZING THAT FUNDS FOR THAT, I DON'T SEE, UH, A CLOTHING ALLOWANCE OR A HAIRDO OR A, UM, SALON ALLOWANCE FOR THAT.

I JUST CAN'T SEE MYSELF SUPPORTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT?

[01:15:02]

WE GO READY TO MOVE PAST COMPENSATION.

I'M VERY READY FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS HERE, UM, IN, IN THE AUDIENCE.

UH, AND WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED, I SWEAR, I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, THERE WAS SOME, IT'S LIKE A MAYOR'S WORST NIGHTMARE WHEN HE CAN'T FIND A PARKING SPOT TO GET TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

I, UH, BUT I, I LOVE SEEING THESE STRONGER TOGETHER SHIRTS.

UH, I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, WHAT THIS BUDGET REPRESENTS IS, IS AN INVESTMENT IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEOPLE ARE A PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, SO, UM, I WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEIR WHOLE BUDGET.

CAN I MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE YOU VOTE OR AFTER YOU VOTE? WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE COMPENSATION.

I STILL WANT, I SAW QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET.

OKAY.

BUT WE CAN PUT THE MOTION.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO DO MOTIONS TO AMEND, UH, THE MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO WE'LL KEEP THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE TOTAL BUDGET AWAY.

I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE.

SO COUNCILOR FLOURISH CAMP.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, OKAY.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS GOING TO BE ABOUT PURCHASING TO TEMPORARY STOP LIGHTS FOR THE CITY.

UM, IF WE COULD PLACE THAT IN THE BUDGET SO WE COULD UTILIZE THOSE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.

SINCE I KNOW THAT WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO NEED TEMPORARY STOPLIGHTS, PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS, TO HELP NAVIGATE THE TRAFFIC UNTIL WE CAN GET OUR ROADS COMPLETED.

YEAH.

I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK IT'D BE A BETTER USE OF OUR MONEY AND I'M BETTER ABLE TO DEPLOY THOSE IF WE JUST PUT MONEY IN THERE TO RENT THEM BECAUSE BUYING ONE IS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE AND WE CAN RENT SEVERAL AT PARTICULAR TIMES DURING THE YEAR FOR A LOT LESS THAN WE COULD BUY ONE.

AND IF WE BUY THEM, THEN WE HAVE TO STORE THEM AND MAINTAIN THEM.

SO ONE MIGHT HAVE THE MONEY TO RENT MORE.

YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO, TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, HAVE STAFF FIND FUNDING FOR PER NOT PURCHASING FOR RENTING TEMPORARY STOPLIGHTS.

IS THERE AN AMOUNT I'M SORRY, IS THERE A NUMBER, UM, I WOULD THINK OF THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE WE HAD THAT SAME ISSUE WITH DAISEY AND BB ROAD WHEN WE WERE HAVING A CONSTRUCTION.

RIGHT.

SO WE ACTUALLY WENT TO THE COUNTY FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS MAJOR ACCIDENTS THAT WERE HAPPENING OUT THERE.

UH, AND I THINK WE, WE RENTED THEM THROUGH THE COUNTY OR THEY FOUND A THIRD-PARTY VENDOR FOR US TO RENT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO, ESPECIALLY LIKE YESTERDAY, WHEN WE HAVE OUR SITUATION AT BUNTON AND LAYMEN AND DAISEY AND MUNTON TO AT LEAST TRY TO LOOK INTO OFFERING SOME KIND OF RELIEF FOR THE PEOPLE OVER THERE, ESPECIALLY BY SOUTH LAKE RANCH, THOSE PEOPLE GETTING OUT, UH, JUST PICKING UP MY SON, MATTHEW, THE OTHER DAY, GOING TO LAYMAN, THERE WAS A FIRE TRUCK THAT WAS TRYING TO GET THROUGH AND KEPT BLOWING THE HORN WHEN PEOPLE WERE JUST PULLING OFF ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, SOME OF GOING IN DITCHES, UH, JUST BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET THROUGH BECAUSE OF THAT TRAFFIC WAS SO HEAVY.

SO IF WE CAN LOOK INTO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY'D BE THREE SETS.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN RENT A PORTABLE TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR APPROXIMATELY $10,000 A MONTH.

THAT'S 150,000 TO BUY ONE.

OH, OKAY.

AND TO BE CLEAR IN THE, IN THE BUDGET, THERE, THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT POTS WHERE SUCH AN EXPENDITURE.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO ADD THAT AS A LINE ITEM.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS, I WANT TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY FOR THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE I HAVE RECEIVED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EMAILS FROM THE LAYMAN AND THE BUTTON CREEK AREA.

SO WITH THAT, THAT THOUGHT IN MIND AND SEEING THAT THERE WAS JUST AN INCREASE IN STIPENDS, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO JUST LIKE, IF WE COULD PUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SIDE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT MAYBE 150, I DON'T KNOW.

I AN AMOUNT TO SHOW THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS, WE HEAR YOUR CRIES, WE HEAR YOUR CONCERNS.

I LITERALLY GOT AN EMAIL THAT SAID HELP EXCLAMATION POINT.

AND SO, UM, RECEIVING THAT EMAIL, I CAN'T JUST HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO STRESS STAFF OUT AND TRYING TO FIND THOSE FUNDS.

I'VE RECEIVED THOSE TWO TEXT MESSAGES.

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING, A VIDEO, SOMEBODY JUST STUCK CUSTOMER PARSLEY.

THANK YOU.

I WAS, UM, WONDERING IF PURCHASING THIS WAS GOING TO COME UP TO THE NEXT MEETING, BUT MAYBE PURCHASING WILL BE A BETTER OPTION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVED IN 10 MONTHS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION.

SO MAYBE PURCHASING MY VIA BETTER OPTION INSTEAD OF RENTING IT.

WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR, FOR THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.

MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO RENT TEMPORARY LIGHTS UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE PERMANENT ONE.

[01:20:01]

OKAY.

CAN WE SET ASIDE AND THEN 150,000? IS THAT TOO MUCH? I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I MEAN, IF WE BUYING WHAT IS 150,000, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ASIDE AT LEAST THAT MUCH TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN.

SO PUTTING ASIDE THAT MONEY WOULD JUST BE TAKING IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE.

SO I DON'T ARGUE THAT EITHER, BUT, UM, WE CAN COME BACK WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT AT THE SEPTEMBER SIX MEETING, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO.

OKAY.

SO I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO, UM, YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO AMEND IT BECAUSE THE MOTION WAS THE MOTION.

WE DIDN'T SEE.

YOU DIDN'T QUITE FINISH BECAUSE THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, STAFF SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL AND THERE'LL BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, BUT IT'S THE SAME NOW.

SO THERE'S NO A BUDGET AMENDMENT IS NEEDED.

WE'LL BRING ONE BACK.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THAT WAS FROM OUR LIGHTS.

UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO DISCUSS, UM, I CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH THE POLICE AND HOW THEY HIRE.

AND SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW, IS CHEAP HERE.

I BELIEVE CHIEF IS ONLINE, BUT CAPTAIN HERNANDEZ IS HERE.

OKAY.

UM, WE'RE GOOD.

WELL, ANYBODY WHO KIND OF HAS AN IDEA.

SO, UM, MY CONCERN IS, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HIRES DIFFERENTLY THAN MOST DEPARTMENTS.

SO IT USUALLY TAKES 18 MONTHS FOR AN OFFICER TO GO THROUGH TRAINING.

AND SO I, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THEIR BUDGET IS SOME KIND OF, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT, LIKE AN OPTION TO HIRE AND PROMOTE AS, AS THEY, AS THE EMPLOYEES PROCESS, I GUESS, MEANING, UM, IF IT TAKES 18 MONTHS, WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT ALL BY A CERTAIN DATE.

SO TIM CAN BACK ME UP ON THIS.

BUT THE HIRING PROCESS IS OUTLINED IN THE MAIN CONFER AGREEMENT THAT WE JUST APPROVED IN PAR IN THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES THAT ARE WE PART OF WHAT WE PUT IN THE, I MEAN, FOR AGREEMENT WAS THE ABILITY TO HIRE MORE EXPERIENCED LATERAL HIRES FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT SHOULD IMPROVE THAT.

BUT WE CAN'T CHANGE THE HIRING PROCESS FOR SWORN OFFICERS.

NO, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BUDGET? LIKE IF WE DON'T HAVE ALL THEIR MONEY EXPIRE AT A CERTAIN TIME WHERE THEY CAN UTILIZE IT, IT AS, AS A STEP, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

I KNOW THE HIRING, LIKE IF WE SAY, OKAY, YOU CAN HIRE 10 EMPLOYEES THIS, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR, THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GETTING 10 EMPLOYEES AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT, IF IT STOPS THERE, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THAT PREVENT, OR THAT ARE LIKE IN CONTRADICTION OF THE BUDGET, UH, TIM GRIFFITH LIEUTENANTS, PLEASE FARMER.

UH, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE PROMOTION VERSUS HIRING AND THE BEING ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE PROMOTION RATE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE YOUR MONEY.

I'D HATE TO SEE ANY OF IT EXPIRE.

SOMETHING HAPPENED BECAUSE THE WAY YOU GUYS PROCESS YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

SO WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS WHEN WE ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR, UH, SAY, WE SAY TWO MOTOR OFFICERS, SHE'S WORRIED THAT WE DON'T FIND THE MOTOR OFFICERS IN TIME.

AND THEN IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THEY, THE MONEY JUST GOES AWAY.

SHE'S JUST MAKING, SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS ON.

THAT DOES THAT, THAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED IN THE FORM OF FTES AND THE DEPARTMENT.

AND IF IT'S THE FTE YOU'RE AUTHORIZING AND IT SHOWS UP THE SALARY SAVINGS AT THAT POSITION IS NOT FULL, BUT THAT MONEY DOES NOT GO AWAY.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY, SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS NOT JUST THAT OTHER, ANY OTHER POSITIONS THAT HAPPENED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THOSE ISSUES.

YEAH, WELL, UM, I KNOW THAT PROBABLY JERRY CAN SPEAK TO THIS.

W WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, STAGGERING, THE PROMOTIONS FOR, FOR CERTAIN, UH, BE DUE TO THE TIME IT TAKES TO LIKE ACCORDING TO CIVIL SERVICE.

RIGHT? IF I, IF I, IF A POSITION COMES OPEN ON OCTOBER 1ST, I THEN HAVE TO FILL ALL OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT BECOME OPEN.

UM, IN OUR BUDGET, THERE ARE 11 PROMOTIONS, WHICH ARE THE PATROL STAFF, OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T HANDLE RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

SO, UM, WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, FINDING A WAY TO STAGGER THOSE PROMOTION AVAILABILITY SO THAT IT ALLOWS THE BACKFILL OF EMPLOYEES TO FILL IN THAT PROMOTION.

THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY OTHER, UM, ISSUE I COULD, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN HANDLE ADMINISTRATIVELY.

WE DON'T NEED COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION OR ALLOCATION OF FUNDS TO DO THAT.

IT'S JUST THE POSITION.

JUST HAVE TO BE AUTHORIZED BY WHATEVER.

WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FUNDS AS LONG AS THEY'RE AUTHORIZED ON DATE RIGHT NOW, THEY SHOULD ALL BE AUTHORIZED RIGHT NOW, OR THEY'RE NOT.

YES.

UH, I GUESS MY, MY, UM, MY MEANING IS IF THEY ARE AUTHORIZED TO HIRE OCTOBER ONE, THEN BY CIVIL SERVICE LAW, WE ARE REQUIRED TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS.

[01:25:01]

UM, NOW YOU CAN FUND THEM FOR THE YEAR AND THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S THAT THE CITY SAYS YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO HIRE, SAY THESE POSITIONS ON THIS DATE AND THE NEXT POSITIONS ON THIS DATE, UM, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR THAT NEEDS TO COME FROM THE DIOCESE OR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.

I'M NOT, I COULDN'T TOUCH.

OKAY.

WELL, I'M LIKE, I NEED TO BRING BACK TO THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.

WE CAN DO THAT ON THE SIXTH AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S JUST STAGGERING, STAGGERING, THE HIRING PROCESS, RIGHT? CAUSE IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GET THAT MANY RESOURCES ON HIRING THAT MANY PEOPLE AT ONE TIME.

SO JUST STAGGERING THAT THE DATES AND START DATES FOR ALL THOSE GUYS.

WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR, IT'S A MATTER OF PLAYING THE POSITIONS ARE AUTHORIZED.

YEAH.

CAN YOU GUYS BRING BACK A LIST OF DATES? ARE YOU ABLE TO, UH, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE, UH, ALYSSA DATES AT, UH, LIEUTENANT HAD WORKED ON TO PROPOSE, UH, WHEN WE CAN STAGGER THOSE IN.

SO YES, WE ASKED HIM FOR THEM TO BE AUTHORIZED ON A CERTAIN DATE.

IT'LL JUST MAKE THE PROMOTIONAL PROCESS MORE MAGICAL FOR US.

THAT'S NOT A BUDGET QUESTION THOUGH.

SO WE'RE DEALING, WE'RE DEALING WITH DECORATING THE BUDGET, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN WE ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO FILL THOSE SPOTS.

AND IF WE DON'T FILL THEM, THEN WE HAVE, SO PROBABLY THERE'LL BE ADDRESSING THAT BEFORE THE END OF THIS BUDGET YEAR.

AND THOSE POSITIONS WOULD BECOME AUTHORIZED WAY.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE THOSE DATES TO JERRY.

YES, SIR.

AND IF I COULD JUST ADD IT, AND WHEN YOU DO THOSE HIRING DATES, IT ALSO HELPS WHEN YOU START DOING YOUR FTO TRAINING IN YOUR ACADEMY TRAINING.

SO THEY CAN ALL BE IN SYNC ON THAT END.

SO WHERE YOU HAVE A LARGE CLASS, YOU CAN FILL THEM ON THAT END.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO PROMOTIONAL PROCESS, YOU CAN EITHER YOU DO THEM YEARLY OR BI-YEARLY HOWEVER YOU DO IT.

WHEN THOSE POSITIONS OPEN UP, YOU CAN FILL FROM THERE.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING AT, AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT THE DATES ARE THIS, I GUESS YOU WERE JUST KIND OF AFRAID AS FAR AS SCALE, THAT IF WE DIDN'T HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE AT THE TIME THAT, THAT BUD, THAT, THAT ALLOTTED OFFICER, THE MONEY WE SET FOR THEM WOULD NOT, WILL BASICALLY EXPIRE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH.

I JUST GET WORRIED BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT HIRING PROCESS.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION DURING THE BUDGET.

YEAH.

IT'S TO YOUR POINT, IT DOES TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO MAKE THE HIRE SOMEBODY BRAND NEW BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON THEIR OWN BEING USEFUL AS OFFICERS.

SO THEY MIGHT TAKE MARIN COUNCIL.

WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MORE ADMINISTRATIVE, OKAY.

THAT COULD BE SORTED OUT BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET AUTHORIZES THE FTS, TOTAL FTES OF SWORN OFFICERS AND THEIR FUNDING FROM THE FIRST OF THE FISCAL YEAR TO THE LAST DAY OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

THEY'RE NOT PARTIALLY AUTHORIZED.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE FULLY, FULLY FUNDED, FULLY OFF, JUST BEING FULLY AUTHORIZED THOUGH.

DOES THAT CAUSE A PROBLEM? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, SEE, I THOUGHT I HEARD HIM SAY THAT IF THAT, IF THEY OPEN IT UP, THEY HAVE TO IMMEDIATELY FILL THOSE ROLES.

SO IF THEY'RE AUTHORIZED TO HIRE THOSE POSITIONS ON OCTOBER 1ST, THEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO FILL THEM.

BUT IF WE ADMINISTRATIVELY OR VIA POLICY CREATE A SCHEDULE FOR WHEN THOSE POSITIONS ARE AUTHORIZED TO BE FILLED, AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO STAGGER, THE POSITIONS DOES NOT, DOES NOT AFFECT THE BUDGET, THE PROMOTIONS, NOT, NOT THE HEART OF THE OFFICERS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UNTIL LEAH SAID THAT WILL HELP WITH.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE OFFICERS HIRED THROUGH THE FTO PROGRAM.

THAT WAY THEY CAN BACK FILL THE POSITIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROMOTED.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD SANDRA DURAN, UH, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.

WHEN THERE ISN'T A AUTHORIZED POSITION FOR A PROMOTIONAL POSITION, A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION THAN A OFFICER, THEN YOU HAVE TO BACK PAY FROM WHEN IT WAS AUTHORIZED.

SO IF YOU'RE APPROVING THESE HIGHER POSITIONS TO BE AUTHORIZED IN OCTOBER AND WE DON'T FILL THEM IN OCTOBER, THIS PERSON GETS PROMOTED IN NOVEMBER.

NOW WE HAVE TO BACK PAY A WHOLE 11 MONTHS.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S WHERE THE PROMOTION PROCESS, WHERE YOU START DOING THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR, LET'S SAY, SERGEANT, YOU STARTED LIKE IN MAY AND YOU HAVE THE PAPERWORK THEN, AND THEN YOU DO THE TESTING.

CORRECT.

AND THEN FROM THERE YOU PUT THEM ON THE BOARD LIST AND SO FORTH AFTER A CERTAIN DAYS.

SO THAT WAY IT COULD BE RETROACTIVE.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT THEY, IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT OCTOBER ONE.

THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE.

IF THEY GO INTO EFFECT OCTOBER ONE, AND THE SERGEANT IS USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE HIRED UNTIL, YOU KNOW, FEBRUARY, MARCH, WHATEVER, THEN THAT PERSON HAS TO GET BACK THERE FROM THE DAY THAT POSITION WAS AUTHORIZED.

SO LIKE, UH, PEREZ STATED THE FUNDING IS THERE, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE PROMOTIONS TO BE STAGGERED.

YES, EXACTLY.

YEAH.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO WE'RE NOT PAYING MONEY FOR THE TIME THAT, THAT PERSON'S NOT THERE.

CAUSE BECAUSE IF THEY'RE ALL

[01:30:01]

AUTHORIZED ON OCTOBER ONE, THEN YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FEEL ALL THOSE PROMOTIONS.

RIGHT.

AND THAT'S SOMEBODY THAT COMES OUT OF YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU GUYS COULD USE THE VENTURE.

WELL, IT'S THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS JUST TO MAKE IT MORE MANAGEABLE.

NOT NECESSARILY THE FUNDING, THERE IS A FUNDING COMPONENT, UM, THAT THERE WILL HAVE TO BE BACK PAY, BUT OUR PURPOSE IS JUST TO MAKE IT MORE MANAGEABLE.

AND SO WE CAN GET THOSE POLICE OFFICERS OUT OF THE FTO PROGRAM SO THAT THERE'S NO VACANCIES AT THE PATROL LEVEL.

SO THAT WAY PEOPLE GET PROMOTED TO SERGEANT WHEN THEY GET PROMOTED TO SERGEANT THERE'S A POSITION THERE TO BACK.

THERE'S A POSITION THERE TO BACKFILL IT.

THERE'S NOBODY STILL IN TRAINING.

OKAY.

THIS IS NOT A TRICK QUESTION.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT Y'ALL NEED? AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH JERRY, UH, Y'ALL NEED DIFFERENT COUNSEL, JUST COME BACK TO THE DIAS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYBODY BEFORE I MOTIONAL AND THE BUDGET AGAIN, IS THERE ONE MORE? YOU HAVE MORE TO GO? I HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST.

UM, OKAY, SO SORRY.

I'M JUST, I JUST, I, I WAS READING THIS BUDGET AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BRINGING THINGS TO LIGHT.

UM, AND SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS I WROTE, I WROTE TO, UM, KOREZ ABOUT WAS, UM, THE CIPS.

AND SO I REALIZED $12 MILLION OF OUR GENERAL FUNDS GO TO CIPS.

AND I, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NOT FOR THIS YEAR.

THIS COULD BE FOR NEXT YEAR, HOPEFULLY, UM, $12 MILLION FOR CIPS TO ME IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

UM, AND SO FOR FUTURE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF OUR CIPS OR GENERAL FUND GO TO THE CIPS, UM, TO HELP, YOU KNOW, SO WE DON'T GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE SPENDING $294 MILLION ON A BOND.

UM, AND SO, UM, I WILL SAY THAT OUT OF THE $12 MILLION OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND, THAT GOES TO THE CIP, I WAS SURPRISED TO LEARN, I GUESS I DIDN'T REALLY SEE AN AMOUNT ON IT, BUT 8.8 MILLION IS GOING TO BE ALLOCATED TO THE 1 0 4 NORTH BURLESON.

UM, AND AS MUCH AS I WANT THAT BUILDING TO BE NICE AND BEAUTIFUL, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A LOT OF MONEY AS COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO, UM, OTHER CIP PROJECTS.

SO, UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CITYWIDE, BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS.

THAT'S GOING TO GET A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

I WAS WONDERING, UM, WHICH IF WE ALREADY HAVE THAT MONEY ALLOCATED TO PROJECTS OR IS THAT FOR, UH, THE FUTURE FOR US TO FIGURE OUT SO COUNCIL MEMBER, WE ALLOCATE $500,000 A YEAR FOR BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS.

SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR CHANCE AND THE CITY MANAGER, THEY WILL IDENTIFY THE PROJECTS THAT THEY WILL WORK ON.

AND DURING THAT FISCAL YEAR.

SO I THINK CHANCES HERE, SIR, CHANCE FOR YOUR DIVISION MANAGER FOR ENT.

UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY GOT A LOT OF WORK ON WITH A BRIGHT VIEW.

A LOT OF IT'S ACTUALLY HELD UP BY THE DROUGHT RIGHT NOW.

WE'VE GOT ROUNDABOUTS, WE'VE GOT TREES BEING PLANTED ON MARKETPLACE.

THE SAME THING ON 16, 26 AND IRRIGATION.

UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANGE ORDER.

I NEED TO GET WITH JENNIFER TO AHEAD TO SEPTEMBER 6TH FOR A CIVIL ENGINEER TO BE ADDED PER TEXT DOC.

SO A LOT OF THAT'S JUST HELD UP NOW FROM IRRIGATION, DROUGHT ISSUES AND PLANTING WHEN THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

UM, WELL YOU GAVE US SOME INFORMATION THAT SHOWED THAT IT MIGHT BE A BETTER IDEA TO GO WITH BRIGHT VIEW THEN TO MORE EMPLOYEES.

AND SO I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS IF IT'S BETTER TO DO USE THE THIRD PARTY, HOW DO WE, I MEAN, HOW DO WE JUSTIFY HAVING THE DEPARTMENT CORRECT THE PAPERWORK THAT I HAD SENT YOU WAS AN ACTUAL INCORRECT ON MY PART.

WHAT I WAS TO UNDERSTAND WAS TO PUT IN FULL STAFF TO REPLACE A BRIGHT VIEW FOR FULL-TIME, RATHER THAN THE AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE HERE.

SO THEY'RE ONLY HERE ONCE EVERY OTHER WEEK.

AND THEY SEND THAT AMOUNT OF STAFF OUT TO HANDLE THAT EXTRA AMOUNT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO COVER, BUT WHAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING WITH THEM AS THE STAFF HERE, EVERY TIME THERE'S AN INCIDENT, ANY KIND OF A ROAD BLOCKAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PULL AN OUTSIDE ENTITY LIKE THAT, TO DO ANYTHING ON THE SPOT.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THEIR SCHEDULING IS TOO MANY WEEKS OUT IN ADVANCE.

SO ACTUALLY GETTING RID OF THE S AND T STAFF WOULD ACTUALLY HINDER QUITE A BIT OF THE WORK THAT'S DONE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

UM, WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY PROPOSING ORIGINALLY WAS SIX STAFF WITH ANOTHER CREW LEADER.

SO WE CAN SEPARATE THE BEAUTIFICATION SIDE AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING DONE IN OUR RIGHT OF WAYS.

AND WHAT THAT WAS TO DO WAS TO ALLOCATE THOSE GUYS DIRECTLY TO THAT RATHER THAN HAVING TO SEPARATE THEM AND PULL THEM APART FROM THE FULL STAFF THAT WE HAVE NOW.

SO WITH ONLY THREE PEOPLE COMING IN, I BELIEVE WAS THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED, UM, THAT WILL DEFINITELY HELP US, BUT

[01:35:01]

SEPARATING BRIGHT VIEW TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT ON THE BIGGER PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT NEEDED ON A WEEKLY BASIS OR AN EVERY OTHER WEEK BASIS IS VERY HELPFUL.

BUT WITHOUT THE STAFF HERE, YOU WOULD DEFINITELY.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING BRIGHT VIEW TO EXCUSE ME, TO FOCUS ON THE BEAUTIFICATION CORRIDORS ESTABLISHED BY COUNCIL, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT GO THROUGH TOWN THAT PEOPLE COMING INTO TOWN DRIVE THROUGH AND IMPROV YOU AS CHARGED WITH BIG SURE THAT THOSE CORRIDORS ARE ALWAYS AT A GOLD STANDARD LEVEL.

AND THAT'S THEIR SOLE 4K FOCUS IS TO DO THOSE CORRIDORS.

WE HAVE SORRY, ENVIRONMENTAL TRADE AND SERVICES STAFF THAT HAVE OTHER PLACES THAT THEY GO TO ON A ROUTINE BASIS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ALSO AT THAT GOLD STANDARD, BUT THEY ARE ALSO ON STANDBY.

IF THERE'S A STORM THAT THEY CAN GO AND THEY CAN CLEAR DEBRIS FROM A STORM, IF THERE'S A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED.

IF WE HAVE AN EVENT THAT NEEDS EXTRA MANPOWER, THAT THOSE CREWS AND EQUIPMENT PROVIDES US WITH FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE AROUND AND HANDLE OTHER THINGS THAT COME UP THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO DO SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THE BUDGET ON THOSE PROJECTS YET.

BUT THOSE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE PAINTING THE TURNAROUND LANES ON THERE, ON THE OVERPASSES AND DOING LANDSCAPING ALONG THE, EXCUSE ME, ALONG THE HIGHWAYS.

SO THE COUNCIL HAS TASKED US WITH VARIOUS BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

BRIGHT VIEW IS A BIG PART OF THAT.

WE DEPEND ON THEM TO DO THEIR PART AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL TRADES AND SERVICES ALSO TO IVIG PART OF THAT, CORRECT? YES.

OR BASICALLY THE IN-BETWEEN IS TAKEN CARE OF ON OUR END.

AND A LOT OF THE SMALLER AREAS OF THAT BRIBE, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SEND OUT CONTRACTORS FOR, AND AS JERRY STATED, THE, UH, NEW PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, ESPECIALLY 35 IS WHAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH.

TXDOT.

I'VE HAD A FEW MEETINGS WITH THEM WHERE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY MATCH OUR FUNDS AND BE ABLE TO DO A REALLY NICE SET DOWN 35, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS ABOUT A NINE MILE STRETCH FROM BASICALLY HOME DEPOT AT THE BRIDGE ALL THE WAY TO YARRINGTON.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IMPROVING THAT THE REST STOPS EVERYTHING ALONG THAT WAY.

AND, UH, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING ON THE SIDE, UH, A LOT OF THINGS BROUGHT YOU WON'T DO AS WELL AS A LOT OF THERE, AS YOU'VE SEEN IN SOME ISSUES BEFORE WITH THINGS CHANGING IS, UH, YOU HAVE TO GET A NEW DIVISION TO COME OUT IF IT'S TREE SERVICE, IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER IS A PERFECT, UM, SHOWING OF THAT WITH IRRIGATION MOWING AND LANDSCAPING, AND THE THREE SERVICES ARE ACTUALLY THREE SEPARATE AREAS WITHIN THEIR DIVISION.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN BETWEEN, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SCHEDULING ISSUES, TRYING TO GET THEM OUT THERE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THAT TAKES ME RIGHT BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.

LIKE, IS IT REALLY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO SPEND $750,000 ON BRIGHT VIEW WHEN WE COULD APPLY THAT TO FULL-TIME STAFF? AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING THE COMPARISON HAVE SHOWED US.

YES.

MA'AM IF I, IF I COULD, LIKE I SAID, THE COMPARISON WAS TO ACTUALLY REPLACE THEM AS A FULL STAFF, UM, NOT ON AN EVERY OTHER WEEK BASIS TO WHERE THEY ARE THEY'RE HERE.

FULL-TIME SO THAT MONEY THAT I ACTUALLY ALLOCATED WAS JUST A BASIS TO GET US STARTED THAT IS TO HIRE THE STAFF.

THAT'S NOT ANY OF THEIR, UM, BENEFITS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S JUST EQUIPMENT HIRING THE STAFF AND GETTING THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK.

AND THAT WAS THE OVER $3 MILLION, I BELIEVE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AND THAT'S NOT EVEN GETTING BENEFITS AND FINISHING OUT THAT THOUGHT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, THE NEXT ONE, NUMBER SIX PEREZ ON MY EMAIL LIST.

UM, I WROTE YOU, I SIT ON PAGE 3 76, THERE'S A CIP LINE FOR COOLERS CROSSING US IN 16, 26 AND AMOUNT OF $2 MILLION.

AND THEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT BRIEFLY, BUT I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION WAS IS THAT CIP LINE ITEM IS ANY OF THAT WITHIN THE TERS AND THEN YOU DID SOME MEDIA MAP AND THE ANSWER WASN'T YES OR NO, UM, IN YOUR EMAIL INITIALLY, BUT I THINK YOU SAID SOME OF IT IS WITHIN THE TOURIST WHEN WE WERE TALKING BEFORE THE MEETING A PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR KYLER, UH, KOHLER'S CROSSING IS WITHIN CHURCH NUMBER TWO, HOWEVER, THE REMAINDER, UH, IS OUTSIDE OF TERSE NUMBER TWO.

SO IT'S YES AND NO.

SO HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT GET EXPENSED IF SOME OF THAT IS INSIDE THE TERS AND WE'RE USING CIP FUNDS FOR THAT? SO CURRENTLY COLOR'S CROSSING IS BUDGETED IN THE STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND, WHICH IS NOT FROM GENERAL FUND AND NOT FROM TERJE NUMBER TWO, THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THE STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND IS FROM ADJACENT LANE MILE FEES.

THAT'S WHERE IT'S ACCUMULATED WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH ACCUMULATED WILL APPLY TO A CIP.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, I ASKED YOU ABOUT THE $70 MILLION LINE ITEM, WHICH, UM, IT STATES IT WAS FROM THE 2022 ROAD BOND.

UM, AND THEN WHEN I ASKED YOU IF THAT WAS AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT,

[01:40:02]

ASSUMING THE BONE BOND PASSED, YOU SAID, UM, YES, BUT IT'S A S P AND THEN THAT I SAID, UH, THIS AMOUNT ALREADY LAUDED FOR PROJECTS IN THE BUDGET.

AND YOU SAID, UM, IT IS A PLACEHOLDER IN THE CIP SPENDING PLAN CONTINGENT ON VOTER AUTHORIZATIONS.

SO, UM, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE 70 MILLION AS IN THE, IN THE BUDGET FOR CIPS, FOR THE POSSIBLE AMOUNT THAT WE CAN GET, IT IS BUDGETED FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AS FAR AS CIPS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CIP SPENDING PLAN, THE SPENDING PLAN IS ALLOCATED BY FUNDING SOURCE.

SO COUNCIL HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE BOND PROPOSITION FOR THE NOVEMBER BOND ELECTION FOR THE ROADS.

AND AT THE LAST MEETING COUNSEL DETERMINED THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF $294 MILLION.

SO SINCE YOU'RE ADOPTING THE BUDGET, NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACEHOLDER FOR APPROPRIATIONS, SHOULD CITIZENS APPROVE THAT BOND PROPOSITION.

SO THAT 70 MILLION IS A PLACE HOLDER, NOT SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED TO ANY SPECIFIC ROADWAY.

WE WILL DO THAT ONCE THE VOTERS AUTHORIZE, IF THE VOTERS DO NOT AUTHORIZE, THEN THAT PROJECT GOES AWAY.

THERE'S NO MONEY TO SPEND.

OKAY.

SO I KNOW WE JUST APPROVED THE 20, 20 PARK BOND.

SO IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.

AND I, SO I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE WAITED TWO YEARS FOR THE PARK BOND, WHY WOULD WE ALLOCATE THE 70 MILLION THAT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO PUT OUT FOR BOND FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO? WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T WAIT TWO YEARS FOR THE PARK BOUNDS.

THEY WERE APPROPRIATED THE YEAR THEY WERE THE VOTERS AUTHORIZED.

RIGHT.

BUT WE DIDN'T AUTHORIZE FOR THEM TO GO OUT FOR BOND UNTIL THIS YEAR.

RIGHT.

SO IF YOU RECALL, COUNCIL DIRECTION TO STAFF WAS MINIMIZE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IMPACT.

SO WE WERE STRATEGICALLY POSTPONING THE ISSUANCE OF THE DEBT, SUCH THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT IT.

PROPERTY TAX RATE, WE WERE BORROWING INTERNALLY UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THOSE PROJECTS NEEDED ENOUGH MONEY THAT WE COULDN'T BORROW INTERNALLY.

SO THAT'S HOW WE WERE ABLE TO POSTPONE OR DEFER THE TAX RATE AS THE SAME FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER BUILDING.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO ADD REGARDING THE PARK'S BOND IS THAT WE HAD OUR 10 MILLION AND WE WERE WAITING ON THE COUNTY TO MATCH OUR 10 MILLION, WHICH FINALLY CAME THROUGH AND NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THOSE PROJECTS.

I JUST, I JUST REMEMBER LIKE SOME OF THE BONDS THAT WE APPROVED AND I KNOW THERE'S LIKE KIND OF A WAITING TIME BECAUSE THEY MIND DOLLARS THAT WE USED FOR, UM, THE LAVERDE AREA WAS, UM, WE, WE DID INTERNALLY AS WELL TO CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO I JUST, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DON'T NORMALLY PUT THE WEIGHT TO PUT OUT THE BOND WE DO THAT SOONER THAN LATER, OR DO WE USUALLY WAIT DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT AND WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS TO STAFF A FUEL RECALL FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO STAFF WAS TO BEGIN THE DESIGN.

WE DID THAT BEFORE THE BOND AUTHORITY, AND THAT WAS FUNDED BY GENERAL FUND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ONCE THE BONDS WERE AUTHORIZED AND ISSUED THAT THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE REIMBURSED, COUNCIL ADOPTED A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION TO REIMBURSE THE GENERAL FUND.

SO IT DEPENDS ON INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS AND WHAT COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF SPECIFICALLY TO DO ON THAT SPOT ON THAT PROJECT.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE DONE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS AMENDED MOTION BY THE MAYOR SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? UM, WELL, I ALREADY SAID ROB WANTED, UH, WANTED TO SAY, BUT I'LL JUST SAY IT AGAIN THAT I DO THINK THIS BUDGET IS, UM, UH, $120 MILLION IN CIPS, UH, INCREASES TO POLICE WAGES, UH, INCREASES GENERAL WAGE INCREASES TO, UH, THE REMAINDER OF OUR STAFF.

UH, THAT IS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE INVESTING IN PARKS, UPGRADES.

WE ARE LOOKING AT ROAD ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WASTEWATER WATER IMPROVEMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, THESE ARE, THESE ARE, UH, UH, EXCITING TIMES.

I THINK THAT THE CITY IS, IS STARTING TO GROW UP, UH, AND, UH, TRYING TO, UH, AS BEST AS WE CAN TO EMERGE AS LEADERS IN HAYES COUNTY, UH, THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR VISION, NOT, NOT TO BE VIEWED AS A CITY.

THAT'S BROKE NOT TO

[01:45:01]

BE VIEWED AS A CITY THAT PAYS, UH, LOW AMOUNTS.

IT HAS POOR FACILITIES AND POOR ROADS, UM, AND, UH, CHEAP HOUSING, BUT RATHER TO BE A CITY THAT HAS, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, GREAT AMENITIES, UH, GREAT FACILITIES, UH, AT THE CITY, A WELL-PAID WELL-TRAINED STAFF.

AND I THINK THAT THIS BUDGET JUST REFLECTS THOSE VALUES AND, UH, UH, EVERY PAGE.

UH, SO TH THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, UH, ON, ON THIS BUDGET, IT IS A HISTORIC BUDGET.

UH, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY YEAR THEY GET A LITTLE MORE HISTORIC.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ANYTIME SOON, BUT THIS ONE HAS SOME PARTICULAR THINGS THAT MAKE ME VERY PROUD.

SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ROLL CALL VOTE AS FAR AS KALE PARSLEY? HI, RIZZO MITCHELL.

HI, .

HI BRADSHAW.

HI.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES.

SIX TO ZERO.

MR. HENDRIX, MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, JERRY HENDRICKS ACTING CITY MANAGER.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO EVERYTHING THAT THE MAYOR HAS SAID.

AND THEN SOME ON SUNDAYS, I USUALLY SPEND PART OF THE EVENING LOOKING THROUGH MY EMAILS, MY CALENDAR, AND MY TASKS, AND KIND OF MAPPING OUT IN MY HEAD WHAT THE NEXT WEEK'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND TRY NOT TO BE OVERWHELMED.

THIS, THIS SUNDAY, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND I SAW MONDAY'S MONDAY'S MEETING TO APPROVE ALMOST $300 MILLION IN INVESTMENT IN OUR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEN I WORKED MY WAY DOWN TO TONIGHT'S MEETING TO APPROVE $212 MILLION, UH, FOR BUDGET AND QUICK MATH TOLD ME THAT'S OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.

AND I LOOK AT WHAT THAT GOES TO NOT ONLY THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THE OTHER $120 MILLION IN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THEN, UM, ALL THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES YOU'RE ALLOWING OUR STAFF TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND DO THE JOBS THAT THEY LOVE DOING.

AND IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING IF THEY WERE APPRECIATIVE OR NOT.

I LIKE TO ASK YOU TO LOOK BEHIND ME AND SEE THE STRONGER WITH KYLE, HER CROCKER TOGETHER, HOT TEAM, KYLE T-SHIRTS AND BECAUSE WE'RE ALL TEAM KYLE, AND THAT INCLUDES YOU GUYS.

YOU HAVE SHIRTS ON YOUR CHAIRS AS WELL.

AND, UH, THAT'S ON BEHALF OF THE STAFF.

WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR UP TO THE CHALLENGE OF THIS YEAR, AND CAN'T WAIT TO GET STARTED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

UH, W WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE TAX RATE.

THERE IT IS.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO

[7.  

(Second Reading)  Approve an Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, fixing the ad valorem tax rate (property tax rate) for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 (Tax Year 2022) at $0.5082 per $100 of taxable assessed valuation; providing for the levying of ad valorem taxes for use and support of the municipal government of the City of Kyle for the Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2022 and ending September 30, 2023; providing for apportioning each tax levy for specific purposes; and providing when ad valorem taxes shall become due and when same shall become delinquent if not paid. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Acting City Manager

 

City Council voted 6-0 to approve on First Reading 8/16/2022.

]

VOTE ON THE TAX RATE NEXT, UH, SECOND READING OF PROVEN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS, FIXING DAD VALOREM TAX RATE PROPERTY TAX RATE FROM FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO 2023, UH, AT 0.508, TWO PER $100 OF TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATION PROVIDING FOR THE LIVING OF AD VALOREM TAXES FOR USE IN SUPPORT OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF KYLE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR, BEGINNING, OCTOBER 1ST, 2022, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023, UH, ET CETERA.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN REFORCE, COUNSELOR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

I DON'T HAVE TO ROLL CALL THIS ONE.

DO I? THE TAX RATE? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

AYE.

FLORES.

KALE.

YES.

BRADSHAW.

I TOBY YES.

YES.

PARSLEY RED ZONE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.

IF THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 13 MINUTE BREAK.

WE'LL RECONVENE AT SEVEN 40.

ALL RIGHT.

THE SEVEN FORTY TWO.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

NEXT ACCEPT IS DISCUSSION

[8.  Discussion and possible action regarding a credit card / expense policy. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A CREDIT CARD EXPENSE POLICY.

I'M BRINGING THIS BACK TO TRY TO GET PASSED THROUGH, UH, PRIMARILY I HAD BEFORE I STARTED AHEAD, UH, ONE QUESTION FOR PERVEZ.

UM, WE HAVE A CREDIT CARD POLICY THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED THAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE LOOKED AT.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT AN EXPENSE POLICY AS WELL.

AND SO CAN YOU TELL ME IN YOUR MIND, ARE THERE TWO DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT YOU'RE THINKING COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER ADOPTING? NO, SIR.

UH, IT WOULD BE ONE POLICY, WHETHER IT IS A REIMBURSEMENT POLICY OR AN ALLOWANCE POLICY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CONSIDER, IT SHOULD BE ALL IN ONE POLICY.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S THE, THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE DRAFT I HAD, UH, SHARED WITH THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

SO YOU, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO KEEP WORKING ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE TO MAKE IT MORE COMPREHENSIVE? YES, SIR.

I DO NEED TO MAKE, AFTER THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS, I DO

[01:50:01]

NEED TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS AND I ALSO NEED TO MAKE OTHER CHANGES THAT WOULD MAKE THE POLICY A LITTLE BETTER.

OKAY.

UM, WELL THEN WHEN DO YOU THINK YOUR WOULD BE WANTING TO BRING THAT BACK FOR ADOPTION? UM, I CAN BRING IT BACK ON NINE SEPTEMBER 6TH OR THE MEETING RIGHT AFTER THAT ONE.

OKAY.

UM, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT THEN HAVING HIM BRING, BRING BACK, UM, A POLICY THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT HE'S GOTTEN UP TO THIS POINT? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THE COULD BE THE SIX OR IT COULD BE THE 20TH OF SEPTEMBER.

HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEITHER ONE WOULD MISS LET'S DO THE 20TH.

I THINK ONE SIX IS ALREADY GETTING MORE THAN THREE DAYS IN ADVANCE.

SURE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

MAY PROTEST? YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, I THINK THE COMMITTEE HAD SOME GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS.

I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO RECTIFY THOSE INTO THE POLICY.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.

THEY'RE A GREAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO THANK YOU.

THE CUSTOMER PARSLEY, MR. PEREZ, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE IN THIS NEW POLICY LINE ITEMS LIKE YOU WERE PUTTING ON THE DRAFT, LIKE THE VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS, IS THAT WHAT YOUR, LIKE THE UNALLOWABLE EXPENSES? YES, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THAT, BUT I WILL CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

MY FEARS ARE GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF LOOPHOLE FOR SOMETHING TO GET, NOT IN THERE THAT IS GOING TO BE REIMBURSED.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS LIKE VERY DETAILED.

I'LL REFINE IT, BUT IT WILL NOT GO AWAY.

OKAY.

THAT SECTION WILL REMAIN.

HOWEVER, I DO HAVE A CLARIFICATION QUESTION OF COUNSEL, AS I CLARIFY THIS POLICY, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WE JUST PASSED THIS EVENING REGARDING THE COUNCIL, UH, EXPENSE STIPEND.

SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT COVERS WHAT TYPE OF EXPENDITURES? MILEAGE, REIMBURSEMENTS, OR OFFICE SUPPLIES? BECAUSE I WILL HAVE TO TWEAK THE POLICY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WILL BE THE COMPENSATION THAT COUNSEL GETS.

IF SOMEBODY, IF THERE IS A LINE ITEM THAT IT'S ON THE, ON THE LOUD THINGS.

AND LIKE, LET'S SAY IF I'M CORRECT ME, IF I'M WRONG, UM, IF I WERE WANTING TO PURCHASE MY PAPER WITH THAT AMOUNT, THEN I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FOR THAT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? OKAY.

YES.

NOW I DON'T THINK THAT WILL MAKE, MAKE SENSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT'S BUT TO, TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, SO THE MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT FOR 35 10, THAT WOULD BE TAKEN OUT, CORRECT.

IF THE INTENT OF THE STIPEND IS TO COVER THOSE EXPENSES.

YES.

OKAY.

SO I SEE THAT THERE'S TWO AMOUNTS THAT KIND OF ADD UP TO THE 6,000, UM, AND THAT WOULD BE SUBSCRIPTION AND BOOKS AND THEN MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENTS.

AND THAT WOULD BE SHORT $90.

SO THE LINE ITEM COUNCIL MEMBER I HAD IN MIND TO ADJUST, TO MAKE IT A NET ZERO WAS A CAUSE I GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT Y'ALL THOUGHT THE FOOD AND MEALS WAS TOO HIGH.

I WAS GOING TO STRAIGHT GO TO THAT LINE ITEM AND ADJUST THAT, OH, THEN WE JUST CAN'T PUT FOOD ITEMS ON THE CREDIT CARD.

YOU CAN, IT'S JUST A CREDIT CARD IS JUST A FORM OF PAYMENT.

SO IF YOUR BUDGET IS X AMOUNT, YOU CAN EITHER USE YOUR CREDIT CARD TO SPEND.

YOU CAN SPEND YOUR OWN PERSONAL FUNDS AND SEEK REIMBURSEMENT.

OR IF THE CITY SECRETARY OFFICE IS PURCHASING MEALS FOR COUNCIL, FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS, IT WILL GET ALLOCATED TO THAT COST CENTER.

OKAY.

SO WE HAD FOOD AT 48, 6, HANG ON.

WE'RE THE, UH, THE ITEM THAT'S BEING, UH, DISCUSSED HERE IS CREDIT CARD EXPENSE POLICY.

THE BUDGET ITEM WAS, HAS ALREADY BEEN PAST WEEKS.

WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T BE GOING THROUGH THIS.

I HAVE DIRECTION ON WHICH WAY TO GO.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE HE'S OKAY.

AND HE UNDERSTANDS.

NO, I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

I'M CLEAR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS,

[V.  Executive Session]

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS I ALL RIGHT.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.

UH, THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

DURING THIS MEETING CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5 50, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING TOPICS, ONE PENDING

[01:55:01]

OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.07, ONE INTERNAL COMPLAINING AS CITY MANAGER, THREE PERSONNEL MATTERS, UH, PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.07 FOR THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER, 50 6:00 PM.

THERE'S NO ACTION TAKEN DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THERE'LL BE NO ACTION TAKEN NOW.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.