[I. Call Meeting to Order]
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IT IS 7 0 3 ON THIS TUESDAY EVENING ON SEPTEMBER THE 20TH.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UM, UH, IN ORDER AT NUMBER TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE MYSELF.
THIS IS, UH, MICHAEL TOBIS I'M WITH DISTRICT SIX.
I'M SENDING IN, UH, TEMPORARILY FOR MAYOR TRAVIS MITCHELL.
IF I COULD HAVE THE SECRETARY READ THE RO ROW CALL, PLEASE.
MITCHELL RIZZO FLORES, KALE HERE, BRADSHAW HERE, PARSLEY HERE.
WE HAVE, UH, FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE.
UM, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, OUR, UH, TRAVIS MITCHELL, OUR MAYOR IS IN ROUTE TO THE MEETING.
HOWEVER, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, EXCUSE MAYOR PRO TIM ROBERT REZO FOR THE MEETING.
HE HAS A FAMILY MEMBER, UH, FAMILY, UM, MEMBER THAT MAY HAVE PASSED, PASSED AWAY, PASSED, PASSED AWAY.
SO WE WANNA, UH, ISSUE OUR CONDOLENCES SECOND.
THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.
THOSE WHO APPROVE THE EXCUSE, PLEASE, UH, SAY AYE.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
NEXT UP.WE HAVE THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
I GO AHEAD AND, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES AT CITY COUNCIL, SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 6TH AND A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 6TH AS WELL.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR SPECIAL MEETING SEPTEMBER 6TH AND SAME DAY FOR THE, UH, REGULAR MEETING AND APPROVED FOR THOSE SAY, AYE, AYE.
THOSE SAY NAME, MOTION APPROVED.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
WE HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS, PERIOD.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ANY ITEMS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE CITY.
ALSO, ANY ITEMS ARE RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEMS. THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE INTER ENCOURAGED TO SIGN IN BEFORE THE MEETING SPEAKERS MAY PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THERE IN THIS TIME, UH, ON AGAIN, ON AGENDA ITEMS AND OTHER ITEMS ARE CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS AND THEY MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME IN AT THIS TIME, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP CITIZENS COMMENT AND FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO COME UP AND SPEAK, OKAY, UH, I MISSED ONE ITEM.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IT WAS ANOTHER THERE, THE REPUBLIC, INDIVIDUAL, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
STILL NEW AT THIS AGAIN, I STILL HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS, UH, OPEN IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO WISH TO SPEAK, SEEING NOBODY I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE SINCE COMMENTS, PERIOD.
[IV. Agenda Order]
STEP I'LL HAVE THE AGENDA ORDER.IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ANY OF THE ITCHING ITEMS UP TO THE FRONT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT NEXT.
[4. Proclamation honoring Hispanic Heritage month. ~ Robert Rizo, Mayor Pro Tem]
PROCLAMATION, UH, HONORING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.AGAIN, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, READ THIS ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMAN AND MAYOR PRO TIM ROBERT RIZZO.
WHEREAS DURING NATIONAL HISPANIC HISTORY MONTH, THE CITY OF KYLE RECOGNIZES THE HISPANIC HERITAGE IS AMERICAN HERITAGE, AND WE SEE THE INFLUENCE IN MOST EVERY ASPECTS OF OUR LIVES.
AND WHEREAS EACH AMERICANS OBSERVE NATURAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH BY CELEBRATING THE HISTORIES, CULTURES AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WHOSE ANSWER SURGERIES COME FROM SPAIN, MEXICO, THE CARIBBEAN CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA.
AND WHEREAS THE OBSERVATION STARTED IN, IN 8, 19 68 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE WEEK UNDER PRESIDENT LYNDON B JOHNSON, AND WAS EXPANDED BY PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN IN 1988 THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE ENCOURAGEMENT AND CONGRESSMAN ESTEBAN TORRESS OF CALIFORNIA TO COVER THE PERIOD AT WHICH IT IS CELEBRATED TODAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH.
AND WHEREAS NEARLY 480 YEARS AGO, THE RECORDED HISPANIC HERITAGE HAS BEEN PART OF THE DNA OF THE AMERICAN CULTURE WITH UNDENIABLE
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INFLUENCE IN EDUCATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CULINARY ARTS, AND GOVERNMENT.AND WHEREAS IN THE WORDS OF CAESAR CHAVEZ, PRESERVATION OF ONE'S OWN CULTURE DOES NOT REQUIRE CONTEMPT OR DISRESPECT FOR OTHER CULTURES.
AND THUS CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE ROBUST HISPANIC DISPO TO INCLUDE SPAIN, PUERTO RICO, COSTA RICA, GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, NICARAGUA, PANAMA, EL SALVADOR, BOLIVIA, CHILE, COLUMBIA, ECUADOR, PIA, PERU, URIA ZU.
AND WHEREAS WE ARE PROUD OF THE MEXICAN HERITAGE THAT INCLUDES NATIVE AMERICAN AND SPANISH BLOOD AND MOST PROUD OF ALL THE HUMANITY, CENTURIES OF HOPE AND SACRIFICE CALLED MEXICAN AMERICAN, CHICANO LATINO, SPANISH DAHAN OR HISPANIC ARE ESSENTIAL TO DEFINING TEXAS CULTURE.
AND SOMETIMES IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE TEX REPRESENTED BY THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE RESIDE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND THEREFORE IS PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF KYLE THAT WE RECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH AS NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH 2022.
I KNOW THAT WE JUST HAD OUR PIECE IN PROGRESS, UM, EVENT THIS LAST FRIDAY, WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT PANELISTS, A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS, AND I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, YVONNE FLORES, KALE AND DANIELA PARSLEY FOR BEING MEDIATORS TO THAT.
IF YOU WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT,
WE, UM, WERE DEFINITELY AMATEURS
UM, THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT I FELT LIKE, UH, WERE ASKED THAT MAYBE WOULD NOT HAVE NORMALLY BEEN ASKED.
AND SO IT CAUSED A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE WHAT I LIKE TO CALL, LIKE REAL DIALOGUE.
AND SO, UM, I, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT AND EVERYBODY, UH, WE HAD A GREAT COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.
UM, IT WAS A, A GREAT TIME AND I HOPE NEXT YEAR THAT WE GET TO DO IT AGAIN.
AND, UM, WE GET THE VARIETY OF PEOPLE THAT WE GOT THIS YEAR.
I WANNA SECOND THAT, UM, I REALLY WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF MEMBERS, RACHEL, YOU GUYS WORK REALLY HARD.
UM, AND WE'RE SO PATIENT WITH US NOT KNOWING WHAT WE WERE DOING, UM, IN ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS, KIND OF GUIDING US TO, TO HAVE IT DONE.
AND I THINK IT TURNED OUT PRETTY WELL.
I ENJOY THE FACT THAT THE CONVERSATION WAS KIND OF FLUENT AND IT JUST DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GET STUCK IN JUST A QUESTION, BUT IT JUST, IT WAS VERY ORGANIC.
SO I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT I HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS FOR NEXT YEAR NOW THAT, UH, NOW THAT WE DID IT OKAY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, FOR THE HELP RACHEL, AND ALL OF OUR STAFF.
I CANNOT WAIT TO DO IT AGAIN, SO THANK YOU.
WE, WE, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND TAKE A PHOTO WITH A PROCLAMATION, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO, AND WE'RE PROVIDING THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS TO COME UP AS WELL.
NO, I WANT, I THINK THANK YOU.
I THINK HARPER SHOULD COME OVER HERE AS WELL.
[5. Presentation by Noa Baen of Troop 1954 regarding an Eagle Scout Project at the VFW. ~ Robert Rizo, Mayor Pro Tem]
UP ON THE PRESENTATION.WE HAVE NOAH BUYIN FROM TROOP 1954 REGARDING THE EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT AT THE VFW.
UH, IS IT OKAY IF I USE YOUR US B? SURE.
NOT TO GOTTA PLUG IT IN ON THE OTHER SIDE.
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YOU PLUG IT IN, PLUG IT IN.WE SHOULD HAVE TESTED THIS EARLIER.
WHAT IS THE SCOUT MOTTO? HOW YOU BEING AN IT PERSON? I BROUGHT THE IT GUY, BUT YOU KNOW,
ALL YOU GO TO THE PRESENTATION.
THAT SHOULD TAKE YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.
I AM A BOY SCOUT FOR TROOP 1954.
AND TODAY I AM PRESENTING MY PROJECT PROPOSAL FOR MY EAGLE SCOUT.
UH, THESE ARE MY PROJECT PHASES.
I HAD TO LAY OUT THE DESIGN AND PROPOSED TO THE VFW.
I HAD TO GET APPROVAL FROM MY SCOUT LEADERSHIP, INCLUDING THE DISTRICT CHAIRMAN, AND THEN I'M SCHEDULING AND ORGANIZING THE PROJECT, CAPTURING PROGRESS PHOTOS.
AND THEN AFTER THE PROJECT IS SAID AND DONE, I'M GOING TO COMPLY IN ALL MY NOTES AND PHOTOGRAPHS FOR MY FINAL REPORT.
HERE'S MY PROJECT DESCRIPTION.
I'LL BE PLANTING TWO FLOWER BEDS, STEPPING STONES, LANDSCAPING AROUND THE VFW, DOING SOME BEAUTIFICATION, JUST LANDSCAPING, WORK AROUND THE AREA.
AND HERE'S A PICTURE OF WHERE I'LL BE PUTTING ONE OF THE FLOWER BEDS.
UH, HERE'S MY LIST OF MATERIAL AND MY ESTIMATES, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, I HAVE SOIL BAGS, I'LL BE NEEDING EIGHT TO 10 SOIL BAGS, AND I EVEN HAVE MY COST ESTIMATES FROM THREE TO $10.
I'LL BE NEEDING THREE TO FOUR, $3 PER BAG, STEPPING STONES, SIX STONES, $2, A STONE LIMESTONE BLOCKS, 175 BLOCKS.
AND THERE'LL BE AROUND TWO HUN, $2 AND 14 CENTS A BLOCK, AND THEN VARIOUS YUCCA PLANTS, BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS REQUESTED FROM THE VFW.
AND THEN MAINTENANCE WISE IS I'LL BE TAKING CARE OF IT MYSELF AS IN WATER AND THE PLANTS AND JUST CHECKING UP ON IT.
AND ALSO, UH, THE VFW HAS THE BSA GIRLS TROOP THAT MEETS THERE AND THEY WILL BE TAKING CARE OF MAINTENANCE AS WELL.
I WANNA THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT.
SO WHEN, UH, WHEN, UH, DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE PROJECT, UM, UP AND RUNNING? WHAT OTHER, UM, STEPS YOU GOTTA TAKE? SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE A DATE EXACTLY, BUT WHENEVER I'M AVAILABLE, SCHOOL JUST STARTED AND BUSY GUY, BUT I WANNA GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, HONESTLY.
SO I CAN DO ANY, UH, MAYBE STARTING OCTOBER DECEMBER-ISH.
WELL, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, ESPECIALLY FOR THE VFW TO BE I'M SURE.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE IN THAT END.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? YES, SIR.
[6. Update on the Reclaimed Water Master Plan. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
UP.WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE UPDATE ON THE RECLAIMED WATER PLUM MASTER PLAN TO BE, UH, LEANNE BARBER CITY ENGINEER.
MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE, UH, STANLEY FEES WITH COBB FINLEY.
HE'LL BE MAKING THE PRESENTATIONAL WITH THE STATUSES OF THE, UH, PROJECT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL I'M STANLEY FEES WITH COBB FINLEY AND ASSOCIATES, AND, UH, BEEN WORKING ON A RECLAIMED WATER PLAN FOR A WHILE.
AM I PUSHING THE CORRECT BUTTON?
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE RECLAIMED WATER MASTER PLAN WAS TO REVIEW THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED RECLAIMED WATER IN RACE, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT Y'ALL HAD IN PLACE.
AND, UH, FROM THAT DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN FOR USING RE RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM.
AND ANOTHER ITEM THAT THEY WERE TASKING US WITH WAS TO ASSIST THE CITY IN DEVELOPING A SEPARATE UTILITY SYSTEM FOR THE RECLAIMED WATER.
FOR THE BACKGROUND, WE STARTED OFF WITH REVIEWING PLANS FOR THE EXISTING PURPLE PIPE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY HAD ALREADY PUT IN PLACE, AS WELL AS THE PERMITTED DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE PUTTING IN INSTALLING PURPLE PIPE AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROJECTS.
WE DID A REVIEW ON THE SB REPORT ON EXISTING RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM.
AND WE ALSO REVIEWED THE PLUM CREEK, UH, CONTRACT AND THEIR USAGE DATA SPREADSHEET TO MAX,
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UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THEIR USES.AS PART OF THAT, WE PERFORM SITE VISITS WITH THE PLUM CREEK GOLF COURSE.
THEY TOOK US ON A TOUR OF THEIR PUMP STATION THAT THEY HAVE THERE, AS WELL AS, UH, THE INTAKE AND DISCHARGE LOCATIONS.
WE DID A SITE VISIT TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO, UH, VISUALLY SEE WHAT THE EFFLUENT PUMPS LOOKED LIKE AND WHERE THEY WERE STATIONED.
AND WE ALSO HAD A VISIT WITH THE ASCENSIONS HEAT AND HAYES HOSPITAL REPRESENTATIVES.
THE THOUGHT THERE WAS THAT THEY COULD USE THE RECLAIMED WATER FOR A COOLING TOWER, WATER MAKEUP, AND THEN ALSO FOR IRRIGATION ON THEIR SITE.
SO WE STARTED SOME ANALYSIS INITIALLY, AND WE CREATED AN EPA EPA NET MODEL AND, UH, INPUT THE INFORMATION FROM THE PLUM CREEK DEMAND THAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE USING.
AND WE STARTED DOING REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF THE EXISTING CURVES ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN OF EFFLUENT PUMPS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ADEQUATELY SIZED AND FOR OUR FUTURE USE.
AND THEN PROJECT KIND OF WENT ON HOLD FOR A WHILE.
THERE WAS SOME DECISIONS THAT WAS BEING MADE BY THE CITY.
AND WE RECENTLY RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM STAFF THAT THE END USERS THAT WE, THEY WANT US TO, YOU KNOW, WORK ON ARE, AND THIS IS NOT THE NECESSARILY THE ORDER OF PRIORITIES, BUT, UH, CITY PARKS, CONSTRUCTION, WATER, YEAH.
WOULD BE A VERY GOOD USE FOR RECLAIMED WATER TO HELP TAKE ALL A PRETTY GOOD DEMAND OFF OF YOUR WATER SYSTEM.
UH, IRRIGATION FOR CITY RIGHTWAY, HOA, AND CITY GREEN SPACE, UH, USING IT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF ROADS, FOR NEW ROADS THAT ARE COMING IN TRAILS, AND THEN ALSO IRRIGATION FOR SCHOOL ATHLETIC FIELDS.
THE NEXT STEPS IN, UH, WRAPPING UP THE WATER PLAN ARE TO DETERMINE, TO PROPOSE USES FOR TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION.
UH, THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN DESIGN CURRENTLY, AS WELL AS THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN PLANNING.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT ACCOMMODATED FOR IT IN OUR MODEL, TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPOSED STORAGE FACILITIES.
YOU WILL NEED SOME STORAGE FACILITIES AND AT LEAST A FEW LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE SYSTEM WORK KIND OF LIKE YOUR DOMESTIC WATER SYSTEM.
YOU NEED WATER STORAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UH, PROPOSED PUMPING FACILITIES, PROPOSED END USER NEEDS, AND THEN THE PROPOSED RECLAIM WATER FEE.
AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKING AT THE PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION PH PLAN, CUZ CITY'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD ALL OF THIS IN ONE TIME, IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME.
SO OUR NEXT STEPS, UH, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY POSSIBLE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH BE ANY ROADWAYS WE WOULD CROSS IT OR TECH STOCK RELATED.
SO WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE TECH DOT AUSTIN DISTRICT, UH, HAYES COUNTY RIGHT AWAY, UH, FLOOD PLAIN AREAS.
AND THEN, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE TCQ EDWARD FER ZONE FOR DELIVERABLES, WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE A CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, OUR PRELIMINARY MASTER PLAN DRAFT, GIVE CITY STAFF A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, TAKE A LOOK AT IT, PROVIDE US ANY FEEDBACK AND THEN FINALIZE THAT IN THE PRELIMINARY MASTER PLAN, FINAL REPORT THAT WE PROVIDE.
AND THEN WITH THAT, WE'LL PROVIDE A PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE.
SO HERE'S WHAT YOU'VE GOT FOR YOUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.
AND IT MAY BE A IT'S, MAP'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT THE EXISTING LINES ARE IN BLUE AND THE PROPOSED LINES ARE IN PURPLE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S QUITE A BIT MORE PROPOSED THAN WHAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT ADDITIONAL FUTURE ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA BE ASSUMED TO INCLUDE RECLAIMED WATER.
AND THOSE ARE THE RED LINES ON THE MAP.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE ONE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, SIR.
UM, YOU, IT SAYS PROPOSED STORAGE, UH, FACILITIES MM-HMM
I MEAN, UH, PLUM CREEK IS USING THE POND RIGHT NOW FOR THEIR STORAGE.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON AVAILABILITY OF LAND AND, YOU KNOW, LOCATION OF WHERE THE STORAGE IS NEEDED.
AND THEN THOSE COULD BE JUST, UH, STORAGES AND THEY CAN BE ABLE TO BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO DIFFERENT AREAS NEEDED.
BUT THESE WOULD BE SPECIFIC FOR RECLAIMED
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WATER.YOU CAN'T MIX RECLAIMED AND DOMESTIC WATER, SO IT'D BE THEIR OWN SEPARATE STORAGE TANKS FOR THOSE.
AND JUST LIKE THE PIPE THAT'S PUT IN THE GROUND FOR THE RECLAIMED WATER IS PURPLE PIPE MM-HMM
ALL I, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MISS, UH, COUNCILMAN PARSLEY.
WE, UM, PLUM CREEK GOLF COURSE IS CURRENTLY USING RECLAIMED WATER TO WATER THEIR, UM, COURSE CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, SO I'M SUPER EXCITED TO SEE THIS HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY TO BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR OUR PARKS.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN ABOUT AN ESTIMATE WHEN WE'LL BE, BE ABLE TO USE RECLAIMED WATER TO BE FEEDING OUR HEROES MEMORIAL PARK? UH, I DO NOT HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THAT AT THIS TIME.
I MEAN, WE STILL NEED TO FINISH THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO GET PUT IN PLACE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT FAR OUT.
BUT WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THAT INTO OUR COST PHASING ANALYSIS THAT WE DO.
I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT JUST BECAUSE LIKE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF LIKE A MONTH OR SO AGO, I SAW, UH, IN A DIFFERENT CITY, THERE WAS A GOLF COURSE THAT WAS UTILIZING, UH, NOT RECLAIM WATER AND THEY WERE IN REALLY HOT WATERS
SO I WILL REALLY NOT EVER WANNA SEE US GETTING TO THAT POINT.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, USING THE RESOURCES THE RIGHT WAY.
MA'AM THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE JUST HAD THIS DROUGHT NOT TOO LONG AGO, CORRECT.
AND WE WERE HEARING SOME CONCERNS RAISED BY THE CITIZENS ABOUT WHERE'S THE WATER COMING FROM OR THE USAGE.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, UH, MAYBE KEEP AN IDEA TO USE SOME OF THAT, THAT WATER REUSABLE WATER FOR ANY OF THAT.
IF, IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE RADAR THAT WE COULD MAYBE PROPOSE OR LOOK AT.
COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLOOR SCALE.
UM, FIRST, CAN I GET A COPY OF THAT POWERPOINT IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, UH, CITY STAFF HAS A COPY OF IT.
UM, AND THEN CAN WE ALSO GET A LIST OF AREAS THAT THE RECLAIMED WATER IS GONNA SERVICE THAT WILL BE IN THE MASTER PLAN? YES MA'AM.
MM-HMM
[7. Presentation by ZenCity for Community Engagement Platform for City Managers Office. ~ Rachel Sonnier, Director of Communications]
UH, NUMBER SEVEN, PRESENTATION OF ZEN CITY FOR A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLATFORM FOR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.THIS IS RACHEL SONAR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS.
I'M WAITING FOR MY PRESENTATION TO COME UP.
HELLO COUNCIL, RACHEL SONYA DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE RECORD.
SO I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING, UH, THE BRAND NEW, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLATFORM THAT WAS RECENTLY, UH, CONTRACTED FOR THE, UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
UH, IT WAS ONE OF THE APPROVED BUDGET ITEMS FOR THE FY 2023 BUDGET THAT Y'ALL RECENTLY APPROVED.
SO, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, IT IS CALLED ZEN CITY AND THEY ARE A, UH, ONE PLATFORM
IT AGGREGATES DATA THAT, UH, CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING ABOUT THE CITY OF KYLE, AS WELL AS CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH THE CITY OF KYLE AND REALLY GIVES US, UH, THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS THROUGH, UH, SURVEYS, UH, VERY SHORT, SIMPLE POLLS TO GET, UH, FEEDBACK AS WELL AS, UH, ANALYZES SENTIMENT FROM, UH, DIFFERENT VARIOUS SOURCES THAT RESIDENTS ARE HAVING.
BUT I'M GOING TO GO INTO EACH OF THE THREE, UH, PLATFORM OR THREE ITEMS THAT WE PURCHASE FROM THEIR PLATFORM, ESSENTIALLY.
SO THE VERY FIRST, UH, ITEM IS CALLED Z CITY ORGANIC.
UH, ESSENTIALLY THIS IS A DASHBOARD THAT ZEN CITY BUILDS USING ONE OF THEIR DATA ANALYSTS THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND THEY ESSENTIALLY HELP US BUILD OUT THIS DASHBOARD THAT COLLECTS DATA FROM SOCIAL MEDIA THAT COLLECTS DATA FROM MEDIA SOURCES AND JUST GENERALLY ALL AROUND THE INTERNET, HOA GROUPS, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, AND KIND OF GIVES US AN IDEA OF THE CONVERSATIONS PEOPLE ARE HAVING ABOUT THE CITY OF KYLE.
SO NOT NECESSARILY THE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING WITH THE CITY OF KYLE'S STAFF, BUT THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE MIGHT NOT USUALLY HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT FROM HOA GROUPS OF ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE ARISING OR COMPLAINTS ABOUT A CERTAIN RESOURCE OR TOPIC.
SO IT REALLY GIVES US A BETTER IDEA OF KIND OF OUR, UH, PRESENCE IN THE CITY, OUTSIDE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPEN WITH THE CITY.
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IN CITY ORGANIC, UH, ITEM IS.AND THEN THE CITY Z CITY ENGAGE IS AN ACTUAL ABILITY FOR US TO, UH, SEND OUT SHORT POLLS TO CITY MAN, UH, CITY RESIDENTS.
SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, THEY HAVE A DATA ANALYST HELP US COMPOSE THESE POLLS THAT CAN BE ABOUT CERTAIN ISSUES, CERTAIN TOPICS, CERTAIN PROJECTS KIND OF REALLY OPEN ENDED, BUT WE GET FOUR OF THESE A YEAR THAT THEY GIVE US A DATA ANALYST TO HELP US COMPOSE THE POLLS, GET IT OUT.
AND WE USE OUR SOCIAL CHANNELS, UH, OUR ENEWSLETTER, OUR WEBSITE, ALL THE KIND OF PLATFORMS THAT ARE, WE ALREADY ENGAGE WITH CITY RESIDENTS, BUT WE HAVE, UH, A DATA ANALYST THAT ESSENTIALLY HELPS US BREAK DOWN THIS INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM RESIDENTS AND ACTUALLY USE, UH, INSIGHTS GET REALLY, UH, ACTIVE INSIGHTS FROM IT.
AND THEN, UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A REPORT, UH, SO WITH THE Z CITY ENGAGE, WE HAVE WHAT THEY DO, UH, BENCHMARKING REPORTS.
SO SAY WE HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE IN THE CITY OR A CERTAIN THING THAT KEEPS ON COMING UP.
SORRY, SHARING MY SCREEN, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, SORRY, IT'S SWITCHING OVER RIGHT NOW.
I'LL GIVE GRANT A SECOND
THAT WE'RE NOT USUALLY VERY PRIVY TO, OR HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY SEE A LOT OF TIMES CUZ THEY'RE HAPPENING IN HOA GROUPS, PRIVATE GROUPS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, THIS IS A BENCHMARKING REPORT.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT THEY MADE FOR US BACK IN JULY, UH, SPECIFICALLY AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY.
CAUSE WE HAD A LOT GOING ON IN JULY, WE HAD CATALYTIC, UH, CONVERTER THEFTS HAPPENING ALL AROUND THE I 35 CORRIDOR.
WE HAD, I BELIEVE A DOUBLE HOMICIDE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT.
AND THEN WE ALSO BELIEVE HAD, OH, THAT 18 WHEELER INCIDENT ON, UH, I 35 THAT CLOSED DOWN ONE MORNING.
SO, UH, THEY WERE ABLE TO BASICALLY PEEL THROUGH THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE PUTTING OUT TO THE CITY AS WELL AS INFORMATION THAT WAS ALREADY JUST HAPPENING CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING AROUND THE CITY AND GAVE US INSIGHT REPORTS ON, UH, POSITIVE SENTIMENTS FROM RESIDENTS, UH, NEGATIVE SENTIMENTS THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PULL, UH, WHAT WE WERE GETTING POSITIVE SENTIMENTS ABOUT.
SO FOR INSTANCE, UH, KPD HOSTED A FREE CATALYTIC CONVERTER ETCHING EVENT IN JULY THAT BROUGHT US A LOT OF POSITIVE PUBLIC FEEDBACK, UM, FROM SOCIAL MEDIA AND HOA GROUPS AND PEOPLE JUST GENERALLY TALKING, UM, THEY'RE ABLE TO, UH, KIND OF USE THAT BENCHMARKING REPORT TO GAY US AGAINST HOW OTHER CITIES THAT SHARE KIND OF DEMOGRAPHIC SIZES WITH US AND THINGS LIKE THAT COMPARATIVELY.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE SENTIMENT BREAKDOWN, UH, OUR POLICE AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE VERY POSITIVELY VIEWED BY OUR RESIDENTS COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES.
UH, THAT'S WHAT THE COHORT AVERAGE FACTORS IN THERE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE ABLE TO KIND OF GAUGE WHERE WE'RE SITTING WITH OUR RESIDENTS SENTIMENT WISE, YOU KNOW, UH, HOW WE'RE RATING PUBLIC SAFETY WISE, AMONGS OUR, UH, RESIDENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF ABLE TO BREAK OUT THESE REPORTS THAT SHOW US SPECIFIC, UH, INFORMATION DATE WISE ABOUT WHENEVER, UH, PEOPLE WERE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEIR SENTIMENTS WERE AROUND THAT.
AND THEN, UH, REALLY GIVE US A GREATER IDEA OF WHAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISCOURSE IS IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
SO THIS IS JUST ONE ENGAGEMENT BENCHMARK REPORT THAT THEY SENT US AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT WE'D BE ABLE TO BASICALLY KIND OF GET THESE CREATED FOR ANY KIND OF SPECIFIC INCIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL OR CITY LEADERSHIP HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, SAY A SPECIFIC PROJECT, UH, OR EVEN SOMETHING AS LARGE AS THE MASTER COMP REWRITE OR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLANS OR SPECIFIC PROJECTS OR ROADWAYS.
SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF AN ENDLESS ENGAGEMENT TOOL THAT WE CAN USE FOR THAT.
UM, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION THOUGH, JUST SO I CAN GO THROUGH THE REST OF IT WITH Y'ALL PERFECT.
SO, UH, I WENT THROUGH IN CITY ORGANIC, THEY BASICALLY USE AI POWERED DATA AGGREGATION TO REALLY GIVE US A BETTER CLEAR, UH, LOOK AT OUR EARNED MEDIA, SO TO SPEAK WITH THE CITY.
SO THAT'S THE CONVERSATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE HAVING ABOUT THE CITY OF KYLE, THE Z CITY COMMUNITY ASKS IS OUR ABILITY TO REALLY ENGAGE WITH THE CITY.
SO THAT'S SHORT POLES THAT THEY HELP US CREATE IT HOSTED ON THEIR PLATFORM.
AND IT'S VERY EASILY SHAREABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, OUR ENEWSLETTER, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEY ACTUALLY GIVE US THE DATA BREAKDOWN BASED ON DEMOGRAPHICS, ALL SORTS OF INFORMATION THAT WE REALLY NEED.
THE NEXT ASPECT WOULD BE ZEN CITY ENGAGE.
UH, THE BEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS WOULD BE ALMOST
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LIKE A VIRTUAL TOWN HALL.IT'S A PLATFORM WHERE THERE'S OPEN PUBLIC FORUM OF DEBATE.
PEOPLE CAN TALK, UH, YOU CAN HOST, UH, INTERACTIVE DATA, SO MAPS, THEY KIND OF BUILD OUT A SITE FOR YOU, UMS, JUST A VERY, YOU KNOW, A DIVERSE TOOL THAT WE COULD USE FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, THIS WOULD BE ONCE A YEAR THAT WE COULD REALLY USE THIS, UH, ZEN CITY, UH, ENGAGED TOOL THAT WOULD, UH, BE USED FOR SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, UM, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
PROBABLY BE A GREAT ONE FOR THAT.
SO BASICALLY GETTING LIVE FEED, OPEN ENDED RESULTS, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY AS THEY GIVE YOU INFORMATION ON THEIR SENTIMENT.
UH, I ALSO HAVE Z CITY REPRESENTATIVE.
I FORGOT TO SAY, UH, JOHN ON THE PHONE, HE'S ACTUALLY VIRTUAL CUZ HE'S JOINING US FROM FLORIDA TODAY.
BUT UM, IF YOU Y'ALL HAVE ANY CITIES, UH, SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR, UH, TECHNOLOGY OR PLATFORM BASED QUESTIONS, HE CAN DEFINITELY HELP ANSWER THOSE TWO ALONG WITH ME.
UH, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UH, THIS IS A PLATFORM THAT WE, UH, HAVE BEEN KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY TO GO WITH.
AND, UH, JAMES I, FORMER CITY MANAGER OR ASSISTANT STANDING MANAGER REALLY, UH, STARTED THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS PROBABLY MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO.
UH, AND I'M JUST KIND OF BRINGING IT TO FRUITION AT THIS POINT, BUT, UH, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY OVER THE PLATFORM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT I CAN HELP YOU ALL WITH? ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
SO I THINK IT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WILL WE, WE BE ABLE WITH THOSE REPORTS THAT WE'RE GETTING BACK TO KNOW, WHERE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING? YES, THEY ACTUALLY DO HAVE A LOCATION BASED, UH, TOOL.
UH, SEAN, CAN YOU KIND OF GO INTO THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION THAT CAN BE ADDED AND JUST QUICKLY TO, WHEN I SAY WHERE IS LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE KNOW WHERE ARE PEOPLE GETTING ENGAGING? ARE THEY ENGAGING ON A FACEBOOK? OH, YOU MEAN LIKE LOCATION THEY ACTUALLY SAW, ARE THEY ENGAGING ON INSTAGRAM OR TWITTER? WHERE IS THAT ACTIVITY HAPPENING? MM-HMM
UM, AND IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO RELY ON THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO BE PUSHING INFORMATION OUT, TO REACH OUT AS MANY RESIDENTS AS WE CAN.
SO DO YOU MEAN LIKE REACHING OUT TO THOSE RESIDENTS VIA FACEBOOK? NOT, NOT IN PERSONAL, LET'S SAY IS THERE, ARE THERE SOCIAL MEDIA GROUPS WHERE THE CONVERSATIONS ARE BEING VERY ACTIVE, LET'S SAY ON FACEBOOK THEN ARE WE BE ABLE TO, ARE WE, CAN WE DETERMINE THIS IS WHERE THE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING? THAT MEANS WHEN WE ARE GONNA SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT CITY EVENTS OR CITY STUFF, WE KNOW THIS IS A, A GOOD POCKET OF, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A, THERE'S A POCKET OF, OF PEOPLE IN HERE THAT PAY ATTENTION TO THESE ISSUES SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM.
SO I WOULD LIKE KIND OF TO SEE IF WHERE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS CITY RELATED HAPPENING MM-HMM
UH, DO YOU HAVE KIND OF A BETTER EXPLANATION FOR THAT? YEP.
UM, I CAN DEFINITELY ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, SO WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT WHERE, UH, THAT, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
SO THE WAY THAT OUR, OUR PLATFORM WORKS IS THAT WE GATHER FEEDBACK ORGANICALLY THROUGH OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL CHANNEL.
SO OFFICIAL CHANNELS WOULD BE ANY OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA SOURCES, FACEBOOK GROUPS, ANY OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA THAT THE CITY OF KYLE OWNS, WE'RE ABLE TO PULL FROM THAT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE DATA UNOFFICIAL CHANNELS WOULD BE FACEBOOK GROUPS WOULD BE INSTAGRAM, WOULD BE ON TWITTER.
UH, ANY OF THE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA HANDLES OWNED BY THE TRADITIONAL NEWS MEDIA AND SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL, ADVOCACY GROUPS, HOAS, IF IT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, WE'RE ABLE TO PULL THAT DEMO FROM THERE.
SO WITH THAT, WE ARE TAKING THE BURDEN FROM SAY, RACHEL, IN HAVING TO GO AND POUR THROUGH HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT GROUPS TO FIND OUT WHERE THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING.
WE'RE ACTUALLY AUTOMATING THIS AND PROVIDING A DASHBOARD WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY SEE NOT ONLY THE SENTIMENT AND WHAT ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU ALSO WILL HAVE A LIST OF THE SPECIFIC GROUPS WHERE A LOT OF THIS ACTIVITY IS COMING FROM.
SO YEAH, WE WOULD BASICALLY BE ABLE TO TELL IF WE NEEDED TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A SPECIFIC HOA, IF WE NEEDED TO YES.
HAVE A CONVERSATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE COULD, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL? I DO.
WHAT WOULD BE THE, UH, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS PLATFORM AND ALSO DOING OUR, UH, YEARLY SURVEY?
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WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO COMBINE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS AND THAT, AND THIS SPECIFIC PACKAGE THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, DOES NOT INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY SURVEY, BUT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADD ON IF WE REALLY LIKE HOUSING CITY IS WORKING.SO RIGHT NOW I CURRENTLY DO THE SURVEY OUT OF SURVEY MONKEY AND WE AGGREGATE ALL THE DATA AS A COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND CURRENTLY GO THROUGH IT COMPLETELY MANUALLY.
UH, Z CITY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.
AND IT IS SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING AT EXPANDING THE PACKAGE TO IF WE ARE REALLY HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS, ESSENTIALLY, I'M NOT TALKING TO THE MICROPHONE, MY BAD
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN OPTION TO EXPAND INTO.
IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT PACKAGE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT ZEN CITY IS CAPABLE OF DOING AS COMMUNITY SURVEYS OF THAT NATURE.
I FEEL THAT, UH, EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER OF PARCY IS, WHAT ARE PEOPLE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT? WHAT ARE THEY? I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GO ONTO, UH, FACEBOOK, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIFIC, UM, PAGES THAT PEOPLE HAVE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, PERSONAL OR JUST A GROUP SETTING.
BUT I, I THINK GETTING TO THE ROOT OF REALLY SEEING WHAT REALLY MATTERS, NOT SO MUCH, MAYBE THE GOSSIP PART OF IT ALL MM-HMM
THIS IS WHAT I REALLY WANNA KNOW AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN GET THAT POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND THEN THE CITY CAN MAYBE INTERACT WITH IT A LOT BETTER ON THAT SINCE IT'S BEYOND THAT CITY PLATFORM.
WELL, THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS WE WILL LIKE, UH, THE CITY OF KYLE FACEBOOK PAGE, CAN'T INTERACT WITH ALL GROUPS BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A MEMBER.
SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF A HOA DOESN'T WANNA ACCEPT AN ORGANIZATION ON THEIR PAGE, WHICH IS TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE, IT'S A PRIVATE HOA GROUP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO SOMETIMES IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY OF KYLE PAGE TO GO INTERACT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE GROUP, IF THEY DON'T WANNA ACCEPT MESSAGES OR, UH, A REQUEST FROM THAT SPECIFIC GROUP.
BUT WE WOULD KNOW WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM ON THOSE HOA GROUPS OR ANY FACEBOOK GROUP, OR EVEN IF IT, YOU KNOW, IS JUST LIKE EVERYTHING, KYLE, TEXAS GROUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THOSE.
AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DIRECTLY RESPOND TO ONCE WE KIND OF UNDERSTOOD WHERE THAT COMMUNITY DISCOURSE WAS HAPPENING, BUT IT WOULD BE SUBJECTIVE TO WHETHER THAT GROUP IS ONE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE FACEBOOK PAGE HAS ACCESS TO OR NOT CUSTOMER INFL KALE.
JUST JUMP YOU PUT THAT, UH, SURVEY BACK UP THAT YOU JUST HAD.
THAT WAS FOR KYLE, RIGHT? YES.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT THEY PUT THAT TOGETHER IN JULY.
LET ME GO SEE IF I CAN SHARE MY PAGE AND THAT INFORMATION DERIVED FROM A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT THAT DASHBOARD WOULD REALLY BE ABLE TO GIVE US INFORMATION ON.
UM, WE COULD, AND IT COULD BE ABOUT A, ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES OR, UH, THINGS THAT CITY COUNCIL OR, UH, THE CITY LEADERSHIP WAS CURIOUS ABOUT.
SO, AND I CAN SEND THIS TO Y'ALL IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO, UH, AS WELL, HOW REAL TIME IS THIS CAN GO BACK DOWN.
SO THIS WAS BACK IN JULY, BUT THE DASHBOARD ITSELF IS REAL TIME TIME.
WILL YOU GO TO THE ACTUAL NUMBERS CUZ SO SORRY THAT THAT'S OKAY RIGHT HERE OR NOPE, LITTLE IT DOWN.
I THINK IT WAS ORANGE AND IT, IT SHOWED THE DIFFERENCE.
MM-HMM
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE AVERAGE, SO THE RIGHT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THAT'S THE AVERAGE, CORRECT? YES.
THAT IS COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES, UH, ESSENTIALLY THEIR SENTIMENT THAT THEY GET FOR THESE SAME KIND OF ITEMS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL SHOULD LOOK AT PROBABLY MONTHLY, THIS
UH, SO THIS IS KIND OF THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS IT PROVIDES MORE ACTIONABLE INSIGHTS FOR CITY COUNCIL AND CITY LEADERSHIP.
THIS, I, I, I KNOW I JUST WANNA SEE THIS BECAUSE EVERYTHING ABOUT SAFETY EXCEPT FOR THE OFFICERS IS REALLY LOW, SO KUDOS TO OUR OFFICERS.
UM, I APPRECIATE THEM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE AS COUNCIL, I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS PLACE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, FEEL A LITTLE MORE SAFE, AT LEAST.
SO YOU ALSO GOTTA REMEMBER IN THE SENSE OF LIKE, WHENEVER THESE A AGGREGATIONS OF DATA ARE HAPPENING, IT'S REAL TIME.
AND IF, UM, YOU KNOW, HOMICIDE IS ANNOUNCED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S, I DON'T WANT MY FEELINGS, SO I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE THIS EVER.
YOU GOTTA BE RELEVANT WITH THE TIMES, BUT ALSO THAT, THAT, UH, KIND OF MAKES ME SAD, BUT DEFINITELY, BUT THIS IS INFORMATION THAT I THINK CAN DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, UH, INFORM US BETTER.
CAN, CAN WE HAVE THIS SENT TO US AS WELL? YES, I WILL DEFINITELY SEND IT TO YOU.
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THROUGH THIS.NO, I, I JUST HAD A QUESTION, BUT SHE KIND OF ASKED ABOUT IT.
JUST WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE, THE TIMING OF IT.
LIKE IF WE SEE THAT THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT A HOMICIDE, UM, ARE YOU GUYS GONNA, ARE WE GONNA BE ALERTED OF THE CONVERSATION HAPPENING IN REAL TIME OR SO SINCE CITY CAN, UH, THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED TREND ALERTS AND DATA ALERTS ESSENTIALLY.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY WORK WITH IN CITI TO SET UP CERTAIN TREND OR DATA ALERTS OF CERTAIN CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING OR, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE CERTAIN CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING IN EXTREME IN ONE AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF A HOMICIDE IS BEING INVESTIGATED IN NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
IT'S GONNA BE VERY REAL TIME CUZ POLICE WILL ACTUALLY BE OUT THERE AT THAT TIME AND WE PROBABLY WILL BE SENDING OUT MESSAGING TO THEM IN REAL TIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYTHING.
SO, UH, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO BASICALLY AGGREGATE THAT DATA AND SEND IT TO Y'ALL AFTERWARDS.
SO THAT Y'ALL KIND OF UNDERSTOOD WHAT HAPPENED.
ANYONE ELSE? JUST ANOTHER ONE QUICK QUESTION CUSTOMER FIRST.
IS THERE, UM, DID WE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS BEFORE WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THIS ONE? SO, UH, JAMES HAD WEIGHED SEVERAL OTHER SOFTWARE ENGAGEMENT OR COMMUNITY SOFTWARE
SO FOR THIS, THIS IS THE ONE HE FELT MOST COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD AND JUST KIND OF PASSED THE BON BATON TO ME.
WE DIDN'T GO THROUGH OFFICIAL BID PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS UNDER THE 14, 14,999 FOR THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
BUT THERE WERE OTHER PLATFORMS THAT WERE, UH, QUESTIONED AND WE MET WITH AND GOT INFORMATION FROM, BUT WE MOVED FORWARD IN CITY.
WERE YOU, WERE YOU ON THAT PANEL TO LIKE TALK TO THEM? UH, MOSTLY JAMES, HE PASSED ON THE TOP TWO CONTENDERS IN HIS OPINION AND WE WENT WITHIN CITY.
I THINK THE OTHER ONE WAS AMI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I WAS JUST A LITTLE CURIOUS AS TO WHY THIS ONE STOOD OUT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, WE REALLY LIKED THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDING ON THE COMMUNITY SURVEY AS A PART OF IT.
IF WE REALLY LIKED THE DASHBOARD AND WE REALLY LIKED THE BENCHMARKING REPORTS AND ALL THAT THAT WAS AVAILABLE, THEY SEEMED TO BE WORKING WITH A LOT OF THE CITIES AROUND US.
THEY WORK WITH STEVE FLICKERVILLE I BELIEVE SO.
UH, THEY CAME HIGHLY REVIEWED AND HIGHLY RATED, SO, UH, JUST KIND OF OKAY.
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Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager
- Heroes Memorial Park Ribbon Cutting Recap
- Squeeze Box Market Day - Celebrating Hispanic Heritage Month - Sept. 24
- Dance for People with Disabilities Halloween Boo-gie - Sept 30
- Road Bond Open House – Oct 1
- Cornhole Tournament Registration - Oct 15
- Center Street Trick or Treat - Oct 22
- Youth Basketball Clinic - Nov 5
- December Events
- Team Kyle Update
MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, RACHEL SONYA DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH HER GARY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER, RACHEL SONIA COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR WILL ALSO BE DOING HER IMPERSONATION OF HER PARK STAFF AS SHE GOES THROUGH THE, UH, VARIOUS PROJECTS ON THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT TONIGHT, USUALLY IT'S MARIANA, BUT I'M GONNA BE STANDING FOR MARIANA CUZ SHE'S AT A CONFERENCE THIS WEEK.
SO, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST RECAP OF HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK RIBBON CUTTING ON SEPTEMBER 11TH.
UH, GRANT HAS QUEUED UP OUR VIDEO.
THAT IS THE RECAP IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO WATCH THAT.
BUT, UH, WE ALSO JUST REALLY WANTED TO STRESS SINKING ALL THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY LEADERSHIP, THE STAFF, THE ORGANIZATION, SUCH AS AMVETS AND VFW AND THE K P D HONOR GUARD AND, UH, TDS AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAME TOGETHER TO REALLY MAKE THIS POSSIBLE.
UH, ALSO THE HEY C I S D HIGH SCHOOL HONOR CHOIR WHO'S SANG A BEAUTIFUL NATIONALLY ANTHEM.
SO WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO THANK ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS AND UH, PEOPLE INVOLVED ALSO.
ALL RIGHT, GRANT, WANNA CUE UP THAT VIDEO?
WHAT MAKES THIS PARK SPECIAL IS THAT IT ACCOMPLISHES MANY THINGS VERY WELL.
IT IS IN A STRATEGIC AND PROMINENT LOCATION AND IT CELEBRATES AND HONORS OUR HEROES IN A WAY THEY DESERVE OF IN HONOR.
WE HONOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR VETERANS, OUR BRAVE FALLEN SERVICE MEMBERS.
THEY'RE ALL HEROES, A LIFE OF SERVICE JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.
IT STARTS WITH A SPECIAL PERSON WHO DEMONSTRATES A SERVANT'S HEART WHO LOVES HIS FAMILY, CARES ABOUT HIS COMMUNITY, LOVES HIS NEIGHBOR, HIS COUNTRY WHO GIVES OF ONESELF FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, DISPATCHERS, EMT, MILITARY MEN, AND WOMEN ALL DEMONSTRATE THIS QUALITY.
THEY DEFEND US PUTTING US BEFORE THEIR OWN
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SAFETY AND WITHOUT EXPECTING GRATITUDE.THIS FEELS LIKE A VERY MEANINGFUL TIME TO BE DEDICATING A PARK, CELEBRATING OUR VETERANS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE 21ST ANNIVERSARY OF THE DAY.
MY GENERATION REALLY LOST OUR INNOCENCE AND A DAY THAT MANY BRAVE FIRST RESPONDERS RAN INTO TUMBLING TOWERS TO TRY AND SAVE LIVES.
I WANNA GIVE YOU THIS RESOLUTION HONORING THE CITY OF KYLE AND CELEBRATING THE DEDICATION OF THE HEROES MEMORIAL PARK.
IT IS AN ABSOLUTE HONOR TO BE PART OF THIS AUSPICIOUS OCCASION.
I REPRESENT AN ORGANIZATION CALLED AM VETS.
NOW MOST OF YOU, EVEN IF YOU CAME HERE ALONE ARE MEMBERS OF FAMILY AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT FAMILY THAT'S SPECIAL, BUT THIS FAMILY OF AMVETS IS UNIQUELY SPECIAL BECAUSE IN THE WORDS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON, YOU ARE A BAND OF BROTHERS.
WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, WE WOULD, I WOULD DRIVE AROUND THROUGH THE OLD PART OF PLUM CREEK GOING WHERE'D THEY GET THESE STREET NAMES.
AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE HISTORY.
WE, WE HAVE OLD FILES AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT ALL THE HISTORY OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALL THOSE STREET NAMES WHERE THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS BACK IN THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, THERE'S ONE STREET NAME IN THERE THAT REALLY HITS ME.
IT'S STRONG IN 1944, JM STR JOINED THE KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS A VOLUNTEER.
AND IN 1952, HE DIED FIGHTING A, A FIRE TO ME.
HE'S THE ONLY LINE CITY HE DID THE KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S EVER HAD.
AND THIS SYMBOLIZES WHAT WE NEED TO SEE.
UH, THE ORIGINAL THINKING WAS TO HAVE A, A, UH, VERY PERSONAL SITE, UH, WHERE PEOPLE COULD REFLECT AND, UH, HONOR THE FLAG.
BIG PAUL WAS IMPORTANT TO ME AS IT TURNS OUT, ISN'T THIS FANTASTIC.
I HAVE LONG HELD THE BELIEF THAT KYLE CAN BE A CITY THAT PEOPLE ARE PROUD TO CALL HOME AND PROUD TO COME VISIT.
MY HOPE AND PRAYER IS FOR THIS PARK TO BE A CORNERSTONE IN KYLE FOR MANY YEARS TO COME, MAY IT SERVE AS A GATHERING PLACE FOR THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS AND VISITORS EACH AND EVERY YEAR FROM THIS YEAR UNTIL LONG AFTER THE TIME CAPSULE IS OPENED IN 2101 AT THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY OF NINE 11.
UH, BUT YEAH, WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE INVOLVED AT THE HEROES MEMORIAL PARK RIBBON CUTTING.
UH, AND THEN MOVING ON, WE HAVE SQUEEZE BOX MARKET DAY.
IT IS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, FROM 10:00 AM TO 6:00 PM.
WE HAVE A GREAT MUSIC LINEUP, UM, PRETTY MUCH ALL DAY LONG.
SO, UH, WE'RE HOPING PEOPLE WILL COME OUT, ENJOY THE FREE ALL DAY EVENT, BRING YOUR LAWN CHAIRS, BRING A COOLER IN JOIN MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK.
UH, IT IS ALSO A MARKET DAYS EVENT.
SO WE WILL HAVE LOTS OF VENDORS OUT THERE, BUT YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT@CITYOFKYLE.COM SLASH CALENDAR.
AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 30TH FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM, WE'LL BE HAVING THE DANCE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, THE HALLOWEEN BOOGIE, UH, IT'LL BE AT GEMSTONE PALACE.
UH, THIS IS FREE ALSO AND IS OPEN TO ALL INDIVIDUALS WITH A DISABILITY REGARDLESS OF AGE.
UH, WE DO ASK THAT ANYONE THAT NEEDS ASSISTANCE, UH, TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THEY REGISTER, WHOEVER WILL BE ATTENDING THEM WITHOUT ASSISTANCE AS PART OF THE CAP, BUT, UH, IT IS FREE.
BUT WE DO ASK THAT ANYONE THAT ATTENDS REGISTER, UH, IS A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE REGISTRATION.
WE HAVE A CAP OF 300 FOR THE GEMSTONE PALACE.
SO YOU CAN REGISTER@TEAMSIDELINE.COM SLASH KYLE.
AND YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EVENT AT CITY, KYLE.COM/CALENDAR.
AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE OUR VERY FIRST ROAD BOND OPEN HOUSE COMING UP.
THAT IS ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 1ST.
IT WILL BE AT END COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
UH, IT'LL START AT NINE 30 AND GO TO 1230 AT 10 30.
THERE WILL BE A PANEL, UH, THAT WILL BE A HYBRID PANEL'S DISCUSSION.
SO WE WILL BE AIRING IT, UH, LIVE ON CITY KYLE FACEBOOK ON OUR YOUTUBE ON SPECTRUM 10 AND ON THE KYLE BONDS.COM
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WEBSITE, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE PANEL, WHICH WILL INCLUDE, UH, AN ENGINEER BOND ENGINEER, UH, MAYOR MITCHELL RIGHT HERE, AND AS WELL AS, UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, TAX OR THE FINANCIAL, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM SANCO.SO, UH, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
IT'LL BE LIVE STREAMED, BUT WE WILL ALSO HAVE A COME AND GO PORTION WHERE PEOPLE CAN FIND OUT IND, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.
CAUSE THERE WILL BE EIGHT, UH, PROJECTS ON THE BOND AS WELL AS TAX IMPACT INFORMATION, VOTER INFORMATION, AND A LOT MORE.
WE'LL HAVE CITY STAFF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL AS ROAD BOND ENGINEERS.
SO, UH, WE'RE REALLY HOPING WE GET A GREAT TURNOUT FOR THAT ON OCTOBER 1ST.
AND THEN ON OCTOBER 15TH, UH, PART WILL BE HOSTING THE CORN HOLE TOURNAMENT AT GREG CLARK PARK IN ASH PAVILION.
IT IS $20 TO REGISTER FOR A TEAM.
TEAMS MUST BE MADE OF TWO TO FOUR PLAYERS AND EVERYONE MUST BE 18 YEARS OR OLDER.
IT IS DOUBLE ELIMINATION PLAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT
AND THEN ON OCTOBER 22ND, WE WILL HAVE THE CENTER STREET TRIGGER TREAT COMING UP.
UH, THAT WILL BE FROM 12 TO 3:00 PM.
THEY ARE CURRENTLY TAKING VENDORS.
UH, SO IF ANY LOCAL BUSINESSES OR ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING A VENDOR ON THE TRAIL OR THE TREAT TRAIL AT MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK, UH, PLEASE GO TO CITY KYLE.COM/CALENDAR AND GO TO THE EVENT PAGE AND YOU CAN FIND AN APPLICATION AND AN INFORMATION ON HOW TO BECOME A VENDOR.
THERE, THERE WILL BE A COSTUME CONTEST AND PUMPKIN DECORATING CONTEST AS WELL.
CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MORE FOOD VENDORS LAST YEAR? IT WAS GREAT, BUT I JUST REMEMBER THERE WAS LONG LINES AT THE FOOD VENDORS.
I'LL BRING IT UP TO MARIANA AND SHEBA.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED SO FAR, HOW MANY VENDORS THEY HAVE, BUT I, WE ALWAYS WANT MORE FOOD VENDORS.
UH, THE NEXT THING COMING UP IS THE YOUTH BASKETBALL CLINIC REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN FOR THIS.
THE CLINIC ITSELF WILL NOT BE UNTIL SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, AND IT'LL BE HELD AT SIMON MIDDLE SCHOOL, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE CLINIC WILL JUST BASICALLY TEACH, UH, FUNDAMENTALS.
SO DRIBBLING LEFT, RIGHT HAND PASS SHOOTING AS WELL AS CONDITION DRILLS, UH, REGISTRATION.
IT WILL BE OPEN THROUGH OCTOBER 30TH OR UNTIL ALL THE SPOTS ARE FILLED.
IT IS $8 FOR RESIDENTS, $10 FOR NON-RESIDENTS AND YOU CAN REGISTER@TEAMSIDELINE.COM SLASH KYLE.
AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE REGISTRATION OPEN FOR VENDORS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE SANTA'S ARRIVAL AS WELL AS THE 25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS.
SANTA'S ARRIVAL WILL BE ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 1ST, THIS YEAR FROM FOUR TO 9:00 PM AT MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK, WE WILL HAVE THE TREE LIGHTING.
IT'LL BE THE KICKOFF TO THE HOLIDAYS IN DOWNTOWN.
UH, WE'LL ALSO HAVE LOTS OF LOCAL SCHOOL CHOIRS AND FREE ACTIVITIES, UH, GOING ON FOR CHILDREN THE WHOLE DAY.
UH, BUT WE ALSO WILL HAVE, UH, THE 25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS, DECEMBER 1ST THROUGH 25TH.
SO MUSIC PICTURES AT THE PARK.
SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO BE A VENDOR FOR THOSE, UH, PLEASE GO TO CITY, KYLE.COM/RECREATION AND REACH OUT TO OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT STARTED.
AND, UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE JERRY ON TEAM KYLE UPDATES, MAYOR COUNCIL, ONCE AGAIN, JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER, UH, WASN'T THAT LONG AGO AS TENANT IN FRONT OF YOU TELLING YOU WHO WE'RE SAYING BYE TO.
AND I'M UP HERE TO TELL YOU WHO WE'RE SAYING HI TO, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF NEW EMPLOYEES.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALL HERE, BUT TEAM KYLE IS HIRING AND OUR NEWEST, UH, TEAM KYLE MEMBERS ARE LORI COURTNEY.
WHO'S JOINED IN OUR TELECOMMUNICATOR TEAM, SUSAN REK, RAININ RENA.
WHO'S A, OUR NEW PW PUBLIC WORKS CLERK, CHRISTY NUNEZ AND AMBER ORTIZ ARE UTILITY BILLING CLERKS.
SHE VARGAS AND LUIS MORA ARE NEW STREET TECHNICIANS.
AUSTIN BRENNAN IS A NEW POLICE OFFICER.
JOE VIAL IS OUR NEW PARKS MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN.
ASHLEY GONZALEZ IS OUR PARKS ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
STEVEN RODRIGUEZ JOINS OUR, OUR WASTEWATER TEAM AS A TECHNICIAN AND JENNIFER GARDEN AND SHANNON BK, OUR NEW LIBRARY ASSISTANTS.
AND FOR ANYBODY THAT'S OUT THERE LISTENING TEAM KYLE IS HIRING.
WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM, KYLE CULTURE AND AWESOME BENEFITS.
SO GO TO CITY OF KYLE.COM AND LOOK US UP.
UM, ARE WE WAITING TO HIRE A NEW CITY MANAGER TO HIRE DIRECTORS? CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S, UM, A LOT OF INTERIMS THAT WE HAVE LIKE FOUR, BUT I'M JUST KINDA CURIOUS.
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FOR ALL THOSE DIRECTOR POSITIONS AS WE SPEAK.[9. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
UP C I P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
WE'LL START OFF WITH LAVETTA PARK, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
YOU WON'T SEE A LOT OF CHANGE FROM THE LAST SLIDE THAT I PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S BEEN A MEETING TO HELP, UH, ENCOURAGE THE CONTRACTOR TO START MOVING A LITTLE BIT FASTER ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, SO THEY'RE PROJECTING TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT ON NOVEMBER 18TH, AS LONG AS WE GET THAT PRODUCTION STARTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, WE'RE ABOUT 56% COMPLETE, UH, ROOF PAV IS COMPLETE, UH, WORKING ON MECHANICAL PRESSURE TEST LEVELS, ONE AND TWO, UH, STANDING SEA METAL ROOF IS, UH, GOING UP ON PHASE ONE.
UH, THEY'RE DOING LEVEL TWO MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING, ROUGH END INTERIOR SHEET ROCK ON LEVEL TWO.
UH, THE CAST STONE ARCHED LINS ON PHASE ONE, THEY'RE WORKING ON TELECOMMUNICATION, CABLE INSTALLATION, WALLBOARD INSPECTION, AND, UH, THEY'RE STILL EXPECTING TO COMPLETE THAT BY FEBRUARY 6TH, 2023.
AND THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD PICTURES OF THE SITE, SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS, UH, BASED ON THE PAY ESTIMATE, WE'RE ABOUT 95% COMPLETE, UH, THAT HASN'T CHANGED.
WE DO EXPECT A NEW PAY APPLICATION FROM THE CONTRACTOR.
SO THAT NUMBER WILL BE GOING UP.
UH, THAT PARTICULAR GRAVITY LINE ENFORCE MAIN ARE IN A VERY NARROW TRENCH.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN VERY SLOW DURING THAT PROJECT.
UH, THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING ON, UH, THEY HAD CUSTODY CUT THE ENCASEMENT PIPE.
WE'D PLACED THAT PIPE WAY BACK WHEN, UNDERNEATH I 35 WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET AN EASEMENT FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAD TO CHANGE OUR ALIGNMENT ON THE PROJECT.
UH, SO WE'RE HAVING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW AND CUT THAT PIPE, WHICH IS NOT A VERY QUICK PROJECT.
AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING A LITTLE BIT SLOWER PACE, BUT WE GOTTA WATCH OUT FOR SAFETY.
THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE, WHAT, WHAT CAN GO WRONG? UH, THEY DO HAVE THE TRENCH PROTECTION THERE, WHICH NOTICE THE CRACKS THERE IN THE, UH, THAT ROAD CONSTRUCTION AREA.
SO THEY'RE HAVING TO TAKE THAT OUT AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BACKFILL IT AGAIN.
SO, BUT THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF, UH, HAVING SAFETY, UH, TRENCHES IN THOSE, THOSE AREAS.
AND AGAIN, THAT CASING THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY'RE DOWN IN THE TRENCH, CUTTING THAT CASING, JUST SO THEY CAN MAKE THE CONNECTION TO THE SEWER LINE ON THE TREATMENT EXPANSION PROJECT, UH, BASED ON PAY ESTIMATES, UH, ON THE DUE WATERING FACILITY, WE'RE ABOUT SAVING 4% COMPLETE.
THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE, UH, UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY COMPLETE WITH THE PLANT TWO MODIFICATIONS AND IT'S SCHEDULED FOR TESTING THE WEEK OF, UH, SEPTEMBER 26TH, UH, BECAUSE OF SOME DELAYS IN SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS WHERE HE PUSHED THE COMPLETION TO OCTOBER OF 2022, UH, P C IS OUT THERE INSTALLING THE POWER TO THE DEWATERING FACILITY.
AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO GIVE US AN UPDATED SCHEDULE ON THAT.
UH, THE INTERPLANT ROADS OR THE ROADS IN THE PLANT ARE BEING EXCAVATED.
UH, LET ME DWELL A LITTLE BIT ON THAT LAST BULLET.
UM, AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE HAVE ASKED, UH, TCEQ TO EXPAND OUR PERMIT FROM FOUR AND A HALF MGD TO 12 MG D UH, THIS SECOND NOTICE IS A MEETING THAT, UH, THEY THEY'VE LOOKED AT OUR, UH, PERMIT APPLICATION.
THEY'VE AGREED WITH IT, THEY'VE VETTED NEW REQUIREMENTS TO IT, AND THEY'RE LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE TO BE COMPLYING WITH AS WE GO TO, UH, UP TO 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY ON THAT PLANT.
UH, BUT WE EXPECT TO SEE SOME RESULTS OR SOME COMMENTS OR SOME APPROVALS BACK IN ABOUT 45 TO 90 DAYS.
UH, THIS IS WHERE ROAD CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON.
WE DID HAVE A VISITOR, UH, UNEXPECTED TO SAY THE LEAST AT OUR PLANT.
THEY, UH, KIND OF DROPPED IN ON US AND, UH, APPARENTLY THE WINDS TOOK HIM THERE AND THAT'S WHERE THEY LANDED IN, IN THE PLANT AREA, ELLIOT BRANCH INTERCEPTOR, WE'RE ABOUT 74% COMPLETE.
UH, WE WILL UPDATE THAT AS SOON AS WE GET THE NEW PAY APPLICATION, WE STILL HAVE SOME ROAD CLOSURES IN THERE.
UH, WE ARE DOING SOME RECONSTRUCTION ON THIRD STREET.
UH, WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE THAT START PAVING ON THAT.
I THINK, UH, THE DATE THAT I SAW WAS OCTOBER 10TH IS WHEN WE START PAVING IN THAT AREA, WE STILL HAVE TO PUT SOME KIRBY IN THERE.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS.
WE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS AS WE WOULD EXPECT, AND WE EXPECTED, AND OUR PROJECT MANAGERS JUMPING ON THOSE VERY QUICKLY AND RESPONDING TO THOSE CITIZENS AS FAST AS YOU CAN.
UM, BRADFORD METALS LIST STATION IS GONE.
WE THAT'S WHEN LIST STATION WE CAN GET RID OF.
AND LIKE I SAID, EVERY GET LIST STATION WE GET RID OF IS JUST A, A BIG PLUS FOR THE CITY, BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ELECTRICAL BILLS AND WHEN THEY DO GO DOWN, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE PUMPS.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY THE THIRD LIST STATION THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUT WITHIN THE LAST YEAR.
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THE DOWNTOWN RELOCATION OF OVERHEAD LINES, AS I'VE MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING, PUC IS FINISHED WITH THE WORK THEY'VE DONE.UH, SPECTRUM IS, UH, LOOKING AT POSSIBLY CHARGING US FOR SOME OF THE WORK.
SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THEY SAY ON THAT.
UH, WE'RE STILL THINKING ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MONTHS BEFORE THEY COMPLETE THEIR PROJECT.
UH, WE JUST GOT NOTICE THAT FRONTIER IS, UH, GONNA START THEIR WORK THIS WEEK, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.
WE WEREN'T REALLY HEARING A LOT FROM THEM.
SO WE DID HEAR HEAR FROM 'EM THIS WEEK, SO THEY ARE STARTING THEIR PART OF THE WORK.
SO AGAIN, THEY'RE EXPECTING TO COMPLETE THAT SOMETIME SEPTEMBER, DECEMBER, WHOLE POST ROAD, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON THE FINAL LIFT OF BASE THERE ON THE NORTH END, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA START PAVING HOPEFULLY WITHIN A WEEK ON THAT THE, UH, LAST FOUR INCHES OF MIX ON TOP OF THAT.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE TWO MORE INCHES OF MIX.
ON TOP OF THAT INDIAN PAINT BRUSH LIFT STATION WERE ABOUT 9% COMPLETE, UH, THE POURED CONCRETE AND THE, UH, WET WELL, UH, FOOTING SLAB WAS INSTALLED.
YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURES THERE WHERE THEY, UH, PLACED THE STEEL, HAD THE PUMPS IN PLACE.
AND THEN, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY FINISHING OUT THE CONCRETE AND YOU CAN SEE THE FINAL PRODUCT IN THAT LAST, UH, PICTURE ON THE RIGHT ONE, ONE ITEM I WANTED TO DWELL ON AGAIN TOO, WAS THE, UM, PIPE BURSTING, UH, PIPE BURSTING IS SOMETHING WE HAVE NOT DONE HERE IN THE CITY OF CO IT'S A ROUTINE PROCESSES IN OTHER CITIES THAT I'VE BEEN IN OR WORKED WITH, BUT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TAKE, UH, IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE, UH, 12 INCH LINE.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, A, A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND IT'S BE EXPANDING THAT PIPE UP TO A 12 INCH PIPE, 18 INCH PIPE.
AND SO WHAT IT DOES, IT SAVES THIS EXCAVATION COST, AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN DONE IN THE CITY OF COST.
SO WE'RE KINDA LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, UH, PROCESS AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.
AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN OPEN EXCAVATION AND, AND HAVING TO DIG UP THE WHOLE AREA.
WE HAVE SOME CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, UH, THIS, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER AT 11.
UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TAKING FROM COLORS CROSSING TO JUST, UH, A NORTH OF MARKETPLACE, ABOUT 700 FEET.
THEY'RE GONNA REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 60 TO 50 MILES AN HOUR.
AND THEN, UH, AND THE REST OF THAT SECTION OF 16, 26 FROM MARKETPLACE BACK TO I, 35, THEY'RE GONNA REDUCE IT FROM 55 TO 40 MILES AN HOUR.
SO I TALKED TO, UH, TECHO AND I SAID, HOW SOON WOULD THAT HAPPEN AFTERWARDS? THEY SAID THAT AS SOON AS WE CAN GET 'EM COPY OF THE SIGNED ORDINANCE, UH, THEN THEY WILL HAVE THAT DONE WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO, AND HAVE THOSE SIGNS REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH THE NEW SIGNS, UH, CODE CROSSING AND CALL CROSSING TRAFFIC SIGNAL DESIGN.
THAT'S, UH, A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, UH, THAT'S A TASK ORDER.
NUMBER 10, TO SEE WIDE TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN CONSTRUCTION AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION FOR THE INTERSECTION AT KYLE CROSSING AND COLORS CROSSING ELLIOT BRANCH INTERCEPTOR CHANGE ORDER.
UH, THIS IS NUMBER 13 ON THE AGENDA.
UH, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, CHA CHARGE.
I MEAN THE CHANGE ORDER, I DON'T LIKE SEEING THESE, BUT IN THIS CASE, WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE, UH, WORK THAT WAS DONE OUT THERE AS, AS FAR AS THE, THE ORIGINAL PLANTS TO DO TRENCH REPAIRS.
AND BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE SAW THERE, WE DECIDED TO ASK THEM, WHAT WOULD IT COST US JUST TO RE COMPLETELY, UH, REHAB THESE ROADS AND, AND JUST PUT BACK IN EIGHT INCHES OF BASE, TWO INCHES OF HOP MIX, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO DO THAT? AND THIS IS, THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WE GOT FROM THEM.
UH, THE SECTION ON THIRD STREET WAS ALREADY IN THE PLANTS TO DO IT THAT WAY.
SO THIS SECTION OF SLEDGE STREET WAS NOT, THEY WERE JUST GONNA REPAIR THE TRENCHES.
AND SO WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A PRICE FOR THAT, AND THIS IS THE PRICE WE GOT.
SO IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PRICE.
WE ALSO ASKED THEM, INSTEAD OF DOING TRENCH REPAIRS ON OTHER SECTIONS TO LOOK AT, JUST MILLING IT OUT A COUPLE INCHES AND PUTTING HOT MIX BACK IN.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THESE LARGE NUMBERS.
IN ADDITION, THERE WERE OTHER LITTLE CHANGES WE ADDED ABOUT $35,000 FOR, UH, WATER LINE THAT WE WANTED TO ADD ONTO THE PROP.
SO THE SCOPE WORK DID CHANGE ON, ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, CUSTOMER FORCE, CAL.
UM, MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHEN WAS LAVERDE SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED ORIGINALLY, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER AND FIND OUT WHAT THAT DATE IS.
IF WE HAVE A DATE BEFORE HMP, I BELIEVE LIKE JUNE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A FINISH DATE NOW? DO WE HAVE A COMPLETE, DO WE HAVE A COMPLETE DATE NOW? UM, I THINK THEY WERE TALKING, I THINK YOU SAID NOVEMBER 18TH.
YOU SAID, YOU SAID, I THINK I SAID NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER 18TH.
UM, AND THEN, SO FOR AGENDA ITEM 13, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS USED HEAVY EQUIPMENT ON THAT ROAD.
IS THAT CORRECT? ARE, DID ANY OF THEM, ARE, IS THERE GONNA BE ANY CREDIT OR REIMBURSEMENT OF ANY TYPE FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THAT ROAD? WE GOT A CREDIT BACK FOR THE TRENCH REPAIR AS PART OF THAT CHANGE ORDER BECAUSE WE WANTED THEM TO RECONSTRUCT IT.
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UH, WE, WE DO NOT EXPECT THEM TO REIMBURSE FOR THAT, FOR THAT AMOUNT, FOR THAT PROJECT.HOW MUCH IS THE CREDIT THAT WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE? ABOUT $15,000.
UM, AND WHERE IS THIS MONEY GONNA COME FROM? OUR WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES.
AND IS, IS THERE ARE PEREZ
MARINN COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
I'M PERVE CITIES, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
UM, ARE WE GONNA, UM, CAN, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH WE'LL BE IN THE ACCOUNT AFTER WE PULL OUT THE $570,000, UH, CLOSE TO ABOUT $8 MILLION.
CAUSE WE'RE PARTIALLY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION CUZ I GET A RESIDENT REACHING OUT REGARDING THE, UM, INTERNET COMPANY.
UM, FRONTIER, UM, HAVE THEY ALREADY STAR THE PROCESS OF DIGGING THE BOXES? THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE THERE IS A RESIDENT SAYING, UM, EXPRESS CONCERN THAT THEY NEED A POINT OF CONTACT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THEY'RE DIGGING AND WHATEVER THEY'RE PLACE IN THE BOXES THEY'RE GONNA, IF THERE IS ANY DAMAGE TO ANY OTHER COMMUNICATION SYSTEM THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FIX THAT UP.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO REACH OUT TO HOAS AND RESIDENTS TO LET THEM KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE CONTACT INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU HAVE THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT JUST SO I CAN SHARE IT WITH RESIDENTS.
USUALLY I, I CHECK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY CAN, UH, GET, GET IN TOUCH WITH THAT CONTACT PERSON.
I DID GET A CALL ALSO FROM A RESIDENT CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE DAMAGE THAT HAD OCCURRED OUT THERE.
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AND THAT FRONTIER HAS A CONTRACTOR WORKING OUT THERE, SO THEY NEED TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE CONTRACTOR AND GET THEM TO CORRECT THE ISSUES THAT THEY'VE GOT OUT THERE.
SO IF A RESIDENT HAS QUESTIONS TO CONTACT PUBLIC WORKS OR ME, I CAN, I CAN PUT IT IN TOUCH EITHER WAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IF I HAVE MINE, BUT I CAN, UH, WAIT FOR IT TO SEND AN AGENDA.
IT'S GONNA RELATE TO 11 AND 12.
WELL, DO YOU WANNA ASK THOSE NOW OR DO YOU WANNA OKAY.
SO, UM, NUMBER 12, LET'S, LET'S GO BACK NUMBER 12 IT'S TO, UM, IN THE AMOUNT OF THE PREPARATION, CONSTRUCTION PHASE ESTIMATES FOR INSTALLATION OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
UM, WAS THERE A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE THERE? YES, SIR.
SO WE'VE GOT THAT COVERED THERE.
CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING TRAFFIC STUDIES AND IN OTHER PARTS, SO TRAFFIC STUDY'S BEEN DONE.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE AMOUNT IS LOOKING AT AND THE APPROVAL FOR REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT I CAN GUESS IS GONNA CONCUR.
SO THAT WAY, IF THE LIGHTS GET INSTALLED OR WHEN THE LIGHTS GET INSTALLED, IT'LL SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN.
UM, THAT IS A PERFECT LOCATION FOR THAT BECAUSE, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO I STOPPED IT AT A STOP SIGN AND I NEARLY GOT HIT.
AND SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT CROSSING SECTION RIGHT THERE, CUZ IT IS PRETTY DANGEROUS.
CAUSE IT'S PRETTY WIDE AND MAYBE NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T SEE THOSE SMALL LITTLE STOP SIGNS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT.
BUT A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE ON NUMBER 12.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
[VI. Consent Agenda]
ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WANNA PULL FROM CONSENT? I HAVE ONE FOR, UH, 15, IF I COULD JUST HAVE CLARIFICATION.[01:10:01]
A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, ALL ITEMS EXCLUDING 1521 AND 23 SECOND.SECOND ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
[VII. Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM 15 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPLICATION FOR A GRANT FOR BALLISTIC SHIELDS FOR KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.UH, THIS IS MR. PAAS TA BO'S ITEM, UH, PULLED BY CUSTOMER TOUS.
UH, MR. TABBA, UH, REFERENCING THE GRANT, UM, VERBIAGE ON HERE.
UH, SECOND LINE THAT SAYS CITY COUNCIL AGREES AT IN LIEU OF EVENT OF LOSS OR MISUSE OF OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR FUNDS.
THE CITY OF CAYO ASSURES THAT THE FUNDS WILL BE RETURNED TO THE OFFICE GOVERNOR.
UM, COULD YOU VERIFY WHAT THAT MEANS AS FAR AS WHAT THE TERM LOSS OR MISUSE MEANS IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? UH, IF FUNDS ARE NOT USED TO PURCHASE BULLET RESISTANCE SHIELDS AS THE GRANT STIPULATES, IF THEY'RE USED FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE OR NO PURPOSE AT ALL, WE WOULD GIVE THE MONEY BACK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOTIONS? MAY I LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 AS WRITTEN SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER TOBI.
SECOND ABOUT CUSTOMER FLORIS SCALES.
THE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION ALL IS IN FAVOR.
NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM 21 PROOF TACO BELL SITE PLAN, UH, 0.8, SIX, SEVEN ACRES, ONE COMMERCIAL LOT LOCATED AT 1750, UH, VETERANS DRIVE.
THIS IS MR. ATKINSON'S ITEM, UH, PULLED BY CUSTOMER PARTIALLY.
I WAS TRYING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE DRAWINGS
IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO ME OR SHOW ME PLEASE? ARE YOU UH, YES MA'AM WILL I CAN SEND FOR THE DIRECTOR, UH, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT GEOGRAPHICALLY WHERE IT IS BETWEEN LIKE ALONG BETTER STRIVE SOMEWHERE OR SO? UM, MY, IS IT GOING TO GO BETWEEN THE WALGREENS AND SONIC? YES MA'AM.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MOTIONS? MAY I LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 21 IS WRITTEN SECOND.
MOTION BY CUSTOMER TOBI, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER AND BRADSHAW.
THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IS FAVOR TO SAY.
UM, Y Y'ALL Y'ALL UH, UH, ARE AWARE THAT WELL
YEAH, IT GOT, IT TAKES FOUR VOTES TO PASS SOMETHING, SO, OKAY.
UM, PAGE, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS ON THIS? ALL RIGHT.
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23, APPROVE AN EXTENSION OF CONTRACT WITH HIGH FIVE, UH, PROMOTIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 18, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023 WITH NO INCREASE IN RATES AND SERVICE CHARGES FOR YOUTUBE OPTIMIZATION AND UH, MAPS MANAGEMENT.
UH, THIS ITEM IS, UH, RACHEL SONIER, UH, PULLED BY CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
UM, RACHEL, I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK, UH, FOR THEIR CONTRACT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND EXPLAINING TO ME DEFINITELY.
UH, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIGH FIVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, ESSENTIALLY THEY ARE WHO TAKES COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT GET PUT ON YOUTUBE.
THEY PUT 'EM ON A PLAYLIST, THEY, UH, TIME STAMP THEM.
SO IF YOU WANNA LOOK FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE SPECIFIC ITEM HAPPENED, YOU CAN JUST CLICK ON IT.
AND THEY PUT ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THE AGENDA INTO THE DESCRIPTION AND, UH, TRANSCRIBE IT FOR YOUTUBE, UH, CC CAPTIONS FOR US.
THEY ALSO HELP WITH OUR, UH, SEO OPTIMIZATION.
SO CITY KYLE SEARCH RESULTS COME TO THE TOP ON GOOGLE AND, UH, CLAIM GOOGLE PLACES FOR US.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 23 TAG AGAIN, MOTION BY CUSTOMER PARSLEY, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLORES, KILLS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION JUST REAL QUICK.
UH, I'VE USED THIS BEFORE AND IT'S REALLY HELPED, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER WE HAD RESIDENTS GO OVER SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS AND IT'S GOING TO 11, 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
I CAN GO AND SEND THEM THE QUEUE AS FAR AS THE TIME AND THEY CAN GO FROM THERE.
[25. Discussion and possible action regarding locations in Kyle that qualify and gain additional safety from pedestrian cross walks/light, to include school zones. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
[26. Discussion and possible action regarding crosswalks on Center Street near Wallace Middle School. ~ Robert Rizo, Mayor Pro Tem]
UP, UH, JENNA ITEM 25 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING LOCATIONS IN KYLE THAT QUALIFYING GAIN ADDITIONAL SAFETY FROM PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS SLASH LIGHT TO INCLUDE SCHOOL ZONES.UH, AND THEN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR PRO TIM RIZZO HAD AN ITEM THAT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS SIMILAR.
SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS GONNA PULL HIM UP TOGETHER, BUT HE'S NOT HERE.
SO, UM, HE'S ASKED ME TO PUT SOME PICTURES UP FOR HIM.
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UP AS WELL THEN DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING CROSSWALKS ON CENTER STREET NEAR WALLACE, MIDDLE SCHOOL, UH, CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE.UM, SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, IF, IF WE COULD SCROLL THROUGH TO THE PDF THAT HAS THE, THAT HAS THE IDEA OF KIND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
UM, SO I KNOW JUST ONE MORE, THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER ONE.
UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, WHEN WE TOOK THE STOP SIGN DOWN OVER BY SILVERADO, IT KIND OF CAUSED AN ALARM FOR THE KIDS THAT WALK OVER THERE.
UM, AND MORE SO I, UH, DROP MY KID OFF AT SCHOOL OVER BY, UM, FUTU.
AND SO I'VE NOTICED, UM, THAT THE, THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS ARE DANGEROUS, UM, IN THE SENSE THAT EVEN THE CROSSING GUARDS GET KIND OF NERVOUS WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR SIGN AND THEY'RE CROSSING THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC.
UM, THIS IS, I THINK IT, DO YOU GUYS KEEP GOING THROUGH THE SAME ONES? THERE SHOULD BE ONE.
UH, I SENT ONE EARLIER TO JENNIFER, UH, YESTERDAY I THINK AS MY BACKUP MATERIAL.
AND THEN IT SH I THINK IT WAS SENT OUT TO COUNCIL AS WELL, HAD A SIGNS.
I HAD CROSSWALK AND PEDESTRIAN LIGHTS.
DO YOU WANT ME TO RESET EXAMPLES OF LIGHTS? OKAY.
SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS LIKE, UM, I'LL RESEND IT TO YOU.
THEY ARE, UM, IT'S A LIGHT THAT GOES ACROSS THE EACH ROAD AND THEN YOU WOULD PUSH, IT WOULD BLINK WHEN IT'S PUSHED YELLOW AND THEN, UH, IT WOULD GIVE US SOME TIME AND THEN IT WOULD TURN RED.
AND SO ULTIMATELY IT'S A, UM, KIND OF LIKE A LIGHT, OH, A CROSSING LIGHT, LIKE A STREET LIGHT
UM, BUT IT'S ONLY USED WHEN THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND, UM, IT GIVES, IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE SAFETY AND PROTECTION BECAUSE THERE'S A BLINKING RED LIGHT.
UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO RESEND THAT TO YOU, JENNIFER.
I HAVE IT ON, OH, DO YOU? OKAY.
SO THESE ARE USED IN, UM, AUSTIN, UH, OR THERE'S, THERE'S SOME OVER IN WEST LAKE.
UM, AND THEY WORK REALLY WELL.
IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT WE HAVE, I HAVE TO, TO STOP, TO LET PEOPLE WALK BY.
USUALLY IT'S JUST DURING SCHOOL TIMES.
UM, BUT IN ADDITION TO SCHOOL TIMES, IT'S ALSO NICE WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE I WAS WALKING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN DO ON CENTER STREET BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A TECH DOT ROAD.
UM, BUT I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE STAFF KIND OF FIGURE OUT, UM, ROADS THAT THIS COULD BE USEFUL IN, UM, TO CONTROL TRAFFIC.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING FOR ME.
I WANNA PUT IN THESE, UH, CROSSWALK SIGNS THAT, UH, BLINK IN DIFFERENT AREAS TO MAKE THE CROSSING A LITTLE BIT SAFER.
ANYBODY HAVE THOUGHTS CUSTOMER TOUS.
UM, I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS AND, AND I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE HAD THE CONVERSATION THERE.
THERE ARE SOME LIKE THIS IN AUSTIN.
I'VE SEEN SOME IN SAN ANTONIO AS WELL, RIGHT.
BY SOME OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS AND SOME OF THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS OUT THERE.
UM, WHAT IT DOES IS IT ACTUALLY GIVES A MORE VISIBLE FEATURE FOR CARS THAT ARE GOING, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THOSE STREETS THAT HAD A 40 MILE AN HOUR, UH, UH, SPEED LIMIT.
IT, IT HELPS IN A SENSE BECAUSE YOU COULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM A HIGH ABOVE AND IT'S FLASHING, ESPECIALLY NOT ONLY THE ONE ON EIGHTH STREET BY THE APD BUILDING.
UM, IT'S A CROSSWALK, THEY PRESS THE BUTTON AND THEN THE, LITERALLY THE LIGHT START FLASHING RED.
AND THEN, UM, IT BASICALLY JUST TELLS YOU THAT SOMEBODY'S CROSSING AND IT GIVES US ABOUT A GOOD 15 SECOND, WHATEVER IT IS, WINDOW, AND THEN STARTS TO BLINK AS FAR AS LIKE USING CAUTION, THEN IT TURNS TO YELLOW AND THEN IT TURNS OFF, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER FLOORS, KAYLA AND I HAD HAD SOME SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE OF COURSE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BB ROAD AND DC, ESPECIALLY BY FUENTES, ESPECIALLY BY OTHER AREAS LIKE WALLACE, WE HAVE A LARGE POPULATION NOW OF PEOPLE ON THE ROAD THAT ARE, UH, GOING OVER THE SPEED LIMIT, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE SCHOOL ZONE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WAYS TO WHERE WE COULD BE A LITTLE PROACTIVE IN LOOKING AT FINDING SAFETY FEATURES FOR THESE STREET LIGHTS OR LIGHTS THAT, UH, CAN GIVE DRIVERS MORE VISIBILITY THAT AT PEDESTRIANS NEARBY NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
UH, MR. HENDRICKS, DOES THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE ANY SAY AS FAR AS LIKE, I KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR FLASHING LIGHTS, LIKE SLOW DOWN 20 MILES AN HOUR AND SO FORTH, IS IS
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THAT UNDER THEIR DIRECTION AS FAR AS THEIR FUNDING OR IS THAT ALSO PART OF THE CITY? UM, PREVENTS OUR HEARTBROKEN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE CITY THAT, THAT INSTALLS THOSE AND MAINTAINS THEM AND PAYS FOR THEM.AND, AND WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND I, I THINK, UM, WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME STAFF SIT DOWN WITH SOME SCHOOL DISTRICT FOLKS IDENTIFY AREAS THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM APPLIANCES LIKE THESE, AND THEN DEVELOP A PLAN TO INSTALL THEM, UH, POINT OUT THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO PAY FOR THESE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO A COST ANALYSIS AND, UM, GO FROM THERE.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT, MAYBE, IF HARPER HAS ANY FEEDBACK ON WHAT HE SEES WHEN HE DRIVES AROUND, I KNOW WITH HIS CREW, ESPECIALLY DURING SCHOOL HOURS, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, SIR? UM, COUNCIL, MAYOR, UH, HARPER WILDER, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
UM, I, I, I THINK IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS IS A GOOD IDEA.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF AND WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE KIND OF PEDESTRIAN DEVICES, THERE'S USUALLY A RECEIVING POINT IN THE AREAS THAT Y'ALL ARE DISCUSSING.
THERE'S NO RECEIVING SIDEWALKS, THERE'S NO SAFE PLACE TO SEND THEM ONCE YOU PUT THAT UP.
SO YOU'RE PUTTING UP A TYPE OF CONTROL, BUT YOU'RE PUTTING THEM ACROSS THE STREET IN A YARD, IN A DRAINAGE DITCH OR ON PRIVATE PROPERTY OR THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY.
SO I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER PICTURE THAT MAYBE COULD BE CAPTURED THROUGH, UH, LIKE THE CENTER STREET, UH, IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO IN AND REDO ALL THE CENTER STREET AND INCLUDE THAT IN THAT PROJECT.
UM, BUT IF YOU DON'T GET SOME OF THOSE SIDE STREETS WITH SIDEWALKS IN, THEN, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE WE'RE PUTTING OURSELVES IN A POSSIBLE ISSUE THERE.
WHAT WOULD BE THE IDEA OF ALSO, UH, AGAIN, MAYBE NOT FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT ACTUALLY GOING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AREAS OR THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES AND SEEING IF ANY OF THOSE CROSSWALKS NEED TO BE REPAINTED, UH, CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT, UH, MADE MORE VISIBLE.
UH, I KNOW WHETHER BY WALLACE, LIKE WE'RE, UM, I THINK MAYOR PORTENDS ADDRESSING SOME OF THE PAINT HAS MAYBE WORN OFF OR SOME OF THE SCIENCE, MAYBE NOT CLEAR, BUT IT'S JUST MAYBE LOOKING AT NEWER IDEAS TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS NOW THAT ARE, THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE DRIVING.
UH, I CAN SEE WHAT FLOOR SCALE WAS SAYING ABOUT CROSSWALKS PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE SCHOOL.
IT, IT, IT DOES GET DANGEROUS, ESPECIALLY BY FUENTES.
I KNOW THAT, UH, MR. ESPOSA CAN BARELY WALK OUT AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST RUSHING TO GET THROUGH, BUT WE, WE GOTTA LOOK AT THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS.
WE JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE, BUT, UM, WE JUST, NOT TOO LONG AGO, OUR PUBLIC WORKS STREET DEPARTMENT JUST DID A SIDEWALK OVER HERE FOR CO ELEMENTARY TO GET THE KIDS FROM THE CO ELEMENTARY SAFELY DOWN TO BURLESON USED TO, THEY HAD TO WALK ALL THE WAY TO THE PAR SLIMMER AND THEN GO DOWN TO BURLESON.
AND, UH, WE PUT THAT, WE BUILT THAT SIDEWALK FOR THEM, UH, ON AUSTIN STREET TO GET THEM DOWN THERE SAFELY.
BUT THERE'S ANOTHER LIKE, PLACE THAT ONCE YOU GET DOWN TO BURLESON ALL THE STREETS ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE OF BURLESON, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS IN ANY OF THAT AREA OVER THERE.
SO A SIDEWALK PROJECT IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD MAYBE ALLOW A SAFER TRANSITION ON PLACES SUCH AS THAT OR, OR ON CENTER STREET.
UH, YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, CAL FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I THINK THAT THESE ARE GENIUS.
I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
AND I RECENTLY HAVE SEEN A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC, NOT PARTICULARLY IN A SCHOOL ZONE, BUT RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PACK ON, THROUGH KOHLERS TO, FOR PEOPLE GOING TO SEE H AND P.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT WE AT LEAST GET A PAINTED CROSSWALK THERE.
UM, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPLORING, IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE, UM, SOME OF THESE LIGHTS OR SOME OF THESE SIGNS TO HELP WITH THAT, AND MAYBE EVEN POSSIBLY USING TOURIST FUNDS TO DO IT.
AND JUST SO Y'ALL ARE AWARE, WE PAINTED THOSE RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED, OUR STAFF DID ON KOHLERS ON, OH, I'M SORRY.
WE PAINTED THOSE THERE BY WALLACE.
WE PAINTED THOSE RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED.
SO HAVING SOMETHING DIFFERENT LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, IS A, IS A POSSIBLE SOLUTION PROVIDED YOU HAVE A SAFE ROUTE FOR THEM TO GO AFTERWARDS.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MS. BRADEL, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA WHERE YOU'RE HAVING THE RESTAURANTS THAT ARE COMING, AND THEN
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ALSO WITH THE PACK CENTER ITSELF, WHEN YOU HAVE ACTIVITIES THERE, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOLIDAYS, PEOPLE WANT ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY CAN'T BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING, THEY'LL HAVE TO PARK ACROSS THE STREET.AND ALSO YOU WANNA HAVE SOMETHING VISIBLE FOR IN THE EVENING AS WELL.
THAT'S GONNA BE EVERY POPULATED AREA FOR TOURISM CUSTOMER FLUSH SCALE.
UM, LET ME SAY, I, I DID NOT WANT THIS IMMEDIATELY.
SO MY GOAL WAS TO, UM, GATHER THE INFORMATION.
SO NEXT YEAR WE CAN, WE CAN TRY TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.
I'M NOT, WE NEED IT, I GET IT.
WE NEED IT RIGHT AWAY, BUT I DON'T WANNA BE, I DON'T WANNA GIVE THAT UNDUE BURDEN TO STAFF.
I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY BUSY AND I, I FEEL LIKE IF WE WANNA DO THIS RIGHT, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO SAY.
SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO DIRECT YOU GUYS TO BRING BACK, UM, LOCATIONS IN KYLE THAT QUALIFY, UM, AND CAN GAIN ADDITIONAL SAFETY FROM PEDESTRIAN, CROSS CROSSWALKS AND LIGHTS TO INCLUDE SCHOOL ZONES.
BUT I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE CITY.
AND THEN I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA DO IT ALL OVER THE CITY NEXT YEAR, BUT MAYBE OVER TIME WE CAN ADD THESE, UM, CROSSWALKS TO THE CITY AS MY GOAL.
SO THAT WAS A MOTION CITYWIDE.
SHE DON'T, I'M JUST MAKING SURE AND CLARIFY, ARE YOU TALKING THE WHOLE CITY ADDRESS? EVERY SINGLE PLACE
MAYBE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, WE'LL DO THIS SIDE OR THAT SIDE, OR, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE ON EACH.
UM, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE UNREALISTIC.
YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE, BUT, UM, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS START NOW TO PLAN FOR LATER.
AND SO I, I THINK THESE, UH, PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS ARE, UM, KIND OF A KEY TO EVEN THE VIBE AND TO WALKABILITY WITHIN THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE SAFE.
AND I, AND I THINK THEY LOOK MUCH BETTER THAN THE LITTLE SIGNS ON CENTER STREET, WHERE THEY JUST HAS LIKE, THEY GET HIT BY CARS.
AND SO, UM, I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, YOU START IT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO WOULD BE MY GOAL.
AND, AND I ALSO WANT YOU TO BRING BACK INFORMATION LIKE YOU JUST GAVE LIKE, HEY, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK HERE, OR THIS IS GONNA BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF THIS AND THIS AND THIS.
I, I DON'T WANNA JUST SAY, HEY, DO IT.
AND THEN YOU GUYS ARE LIKE STRUGGLING BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, THIS IS GONNA BE HARDER THAN WE THOUGHT.
I WANT YOU TO LET US KNOW THAT.
SO THEN WE CAN HELP YOU GUYS GI GIVE YOU DIRECTION ON, ON HOW WE THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD, YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD.
AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT PROJECT, THE CENTER STREET PROJECT, CUZ TO ME THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WHERE YOU WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THOSE SHORT SIDE STREETS AND, AND CAPTURE THAT WITH THAT PROJECT, POSSIBLY IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY CHOSE CUSTOMER TOBY.
WITH THAT, I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND I WANT TO KNOW IF WE COULD BE ABLE TO DO IT IN STEPS.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STACK, DIRECT STAFF, TO, UH, LOOK AT THE, WHAT QUALIFIES THE, THE ADDITIONAL SAFETY OR FOR CROSSWALKS, FOR FUNDING OR FOR, TO BASICALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, MAKE A MOTION TO LOOK AT GAINING OR DOING OR STUDY FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSS CROSSWALKS AT, UM, SCHOOL ZONES, STARTING FROM THERE AT THE LOCAL SCHOOL ZONES IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THEN AT A LATER TIME WE CAN DO MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, AND WE CAN START FROM THERE.
AND THAT WOULD BE A COMBINATION OF 25 AND 26 SECOND.
MOTION BY CUSTOMER TO BE A SECOND BY CUSTOMER MEMBER FLORES, KALE TO DIRECT, EXCUSE ME, TO DIRECT STAFF, TO LOOK AT, UH, THE INSTALLATION OF, UH, THESE CROSS CROSSWALK SIGNALS AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE, IN THE CITY AND BRING BACK A REPORT ON THAT.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON, ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE JUST REAL QUICK CAN, IS CAN WE TRY TO WORK COLLECTIVELY WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD TO SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE CAN MATCH FUNDING OR WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THEM, UM, ONE TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, BUT TWO, SO THEY KNOW THE AREA BETTER THAN, THAN ANYBODY.
SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU GUYS COULD, UM, AT LEAST REACH OUT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ASK IF THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.
YES, MA'AM MISS, UH, JERRY CROK, UM, SHE'S WITH THE SCHOOL AND DOES, UH, MANY OF THOSE THINGS SHE WAS WITH US ON THE SIDEWALK PROJECT.
TO CLARIFY THAT, MAKING, MAKING SURE WE STARTED WITH THE ELEMENTARY AND THEN A SECOND PHASE WOULD BE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THEN THIRD PHASE WOULD BE HIGH SCHOOL.
SO IS THAT, ARE, YOU'RE WANTING TO GIVE THAT AS DIRECTION NOW OR GIVE THAT DIRECTION.
ONCE WE LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE, ONCE WE LOOK AT THE ELEMENTARY AND THEN JUST SO IT'LL COME BACK, WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND THEN WE'LL TELL 'EM.
SAY I, I, ALL THE POST MOTION CARRIES FIVE
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TO ZERO.[27. Approve Task Order No. 3 and Task Order No. 4 to COBB-FENDLEY & ASSOCIATES, INC., Austin, Texas in an amount not to exceed $46,996.50 to provide Traffic Signal Warrant Studies at the Bunton Creek Road and Lehman Road Intersection and at the Bunton Creek Road and Dacy Lane Intersection. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
27 APPROVED TASK ORDER NUMBER THREE AND TASK ORDER.NUMBER FOUR TO COBB FINLEY AND ASSOCIATES, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $46,996 AND 50 CENTS TO, UH, PROVIDE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT STUDIES AT THE BUTTON CREEK ROAD AND LAYMAN ROAD INTERSECTION, UH, AND AT THE BUTTON CREEK ROAD AND DAY LANE INTERSECTION, UH, THAT THE REASON THIS ISN'T ON CONSENT IS CUZ I, UH, BECAUSE I, WELL, I, FOR ONE, I HAD A QUESTION CUZ LEON AT YOUR, AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, YOU SAID THAT, UH, IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS TRAFFIC STUDY AND SPEND THIS MONEY, THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS, UH, TRAFFIC LAWS, LIKE A RUNNING OF A RED LIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF WE PUT IN A SIGNAL, ARE YOU SURE THAT'S CORRECT.
IT JUST SEEMS KIND OF STRANGE TO ME BECAUSE THE COMMENTARY I HEARD AND THIS IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THE COMMENTARY I HEARD IS THAT EVERYONE WAS IN AGREEMENT THAT THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS ARE READY FOR SIGNALED INTERSECTION AND WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND THIS IS $50,000, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PULL FROM SOMEWHERE.
AND WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE NEXT ITEM OF OVER 300,000 POTENTIALLY.
UH, AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE HAVE TO DO THIS STUDY, UH, IN ORDER TO PROCEED, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, LIKE A FEE WE HAVE TO PAY IN ORDER TO PUT THIS SIGNALS IN.
SO CAN YOU JUST MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER, MAYOR, I VISITED WITH SEVERAL, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS THAT HAVE A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I DO IN, IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
AND THE CO THE COMMENTS WERE THAT, UH, WITHOUT AN ENGINEERING STUDY, YOU, YOU PUT THE CITY AT A LIABILITY, UH, SITUATION.
UH, THE FIRST ISSUE IS THAT, UH, THAT TECHNICALLY MAY BE ILLEGAL FOR THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS TO GO OUT WITHOUT AN ENGINEERING STUDY.
AND SO THEY MAY NOT BE ENFORCEABLE.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT, UH, IF THERE IS AN ACCIDENT THERE AND IT WAS NOT, UH, THERE WAS NO STUDY THERE DONE THERE.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT, UH, SOMEONE COULD CLAIM THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CAUSED THEM TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND WE WOULD BE LIABLE FOR THAT SITUATION.
SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS CAN, CAN WE GET AN, A LEGAL OPINION ON THAT, UH, AS WELL, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY ANYONE ELSE WHO IS, I MEAN, IS THAT JUST IT, WE HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY, OTHERWISE WE'RE LIABLE.
IF YOU LIKE A LEGAL OPINION, I, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT.
I KNOW THE RULES FOR STOP SIGNS AND, UM, SPEED LIMITS, BUT I NEED TO LOOK AT IT FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
WELL, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
I KNOW Y'ALL PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO DELAY THIS AT ALL, BUT IF THERE WAS A WAY NOT TO SPEND THE 50 GRAND, I DIDN'T WANT TO, TO SPEND IT COUNTS FOR TOUS.
THAT IS WHY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, WHEN IT CAME TO THE 1626, I, I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR IF A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE, UH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT SEEMS LIKE THOSE LIGHTS NEED TO GO UP, RIGHT? IT, IT WAS, THE CONTEXT WAS DIFFERENT.
SO WE DID, WHEN WE DID THE, THE ANALYSIS OF THE INTERSECTION AT KOHLERS CROSSING AND COW, UH, AND KYLE CROSSING, UH, IT WAS TO LOOK AT IT, DETERMINE WHAT WE THOUGHT IT NEEDED.
THERE WAS A ROUNDABOUT PROPOSED, THERE WAS A, A FULL INTERSECTION WITH TURN SIGNALS PROPOSED, AND THEN JUST A, A CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS THE PATH THAT WE'RE TAKING, WHICH IS MORE TEMPORARY.
UM, BUT THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS STUDY IS INTENDED TO DO.
WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
MM-HMM
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
IS IT THE SAME KIND OF CONCEPT ABOUT THE LIABILITY PART OF THE 1626 LIGHTS GOING UP? OH, I SEE.
VERSUS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE READY TO GO AHEAD AND, AND PUT UP THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT 16, 26 IN COLORS.
SO A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE AND YOU SAID, YES.
SO IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING HERE SAYING, WELL, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT UP UP LIGHTS UP.
WE'RE NOT GONNA LOOK AT THAT YET UNTIL A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS DONE.
IF IT WAS A REVERSE TO SAY, NO, WE DIDN'T DO IT.
THEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE AND WHY ARE WE NOT DOING THAT? BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE FOR THAT SIDE OF, UH, OF, OF THE, OF THE CITY, I, I SEE YOUR POINT ABOUT THIS AS WELL, MAYORS, LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE READY TO GO ON THIS.
AND SO IT'S MONEY AND IT'S, IT'S TIME.
SO CUSTOMER PARTIALLY, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF WE DON'T SPEND THE 50,000 AND THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO END UP PAYING A HUNDRED THOUSAND, SOMEBODY'S GONNA SEE THE CITY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC, SIR.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO COVER OUR BACKS.
IT MAY END UP BEING MORE EXPENSIVE AT THE END.
SO, YEAH, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT WHAT COBB FINLEY IS SAYING SO THAT THEY CAN GET THIS CONTRACT TO GO OUT THERE AND TELL US WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW WE WANT TO DO.
NO, AT ALL, BUT I'VE, I'VE SEEN THAT.
THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M ASKING FOR LIKE, IS THAT ACTUALLY THE CASE?
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IF WE DIDN'T DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, WE WANTED TO PUT UP A SIGNAL.IS IT ACTUALLY THE CASE THAT WE'RE GONNA INCUR LIABILITY? UM, OR WE DON'T PUT THE SIGNAL AND WE DON'T DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
MM-HMM
AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE CONVINCED, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IS THE CASE I'M THOROUGHLY CONVINCED WITHOUT THE STUDY.
I WILL SAY THAT, UH, YOU DID TELL US AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO A STUDY.
I DON'T THINK WE QUITE UNDERSTOOD, UM, WHAT THAT MEANT.
UH, I REMEMBER YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAID THAT, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT.
AND THEN, AND THEN WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK, I THINK HARDER ABOUT IT.
IT'S LIKE THERE IS A LIABILITY THERE AND WE DO WANNA PROTECT OURSELVES.
UM, AND I DO WANNA ASK PAIGE, IF YOU COULD, UM, WHEN YOU RESEARCH, COULD YOU ALSO RESEARCH HOW LONG IF WE DO A STUDY, HOW LONG THAT STUDY IS GOOD FOR? SO CAN WE USE IT THE SAME STUDY ANNUALLY TO DO TEMPORARY LIGHTS, SAY EXAMPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE SCHOOL TIME? UM, OR DO WE NEED TO DO ONE EVERY SINGLE TIME? THANK YOU.
HAVE WE EVER DONE A STUDY IN THIS INTERSECTION? YES, WE HAVE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE ENGINEER DID, THE STUDY IS HERE TONIGHT.
SHE DID LOOK AT THE STUDY AND IT DIDN'T QUITE MEET THE WARRANTS, UH, FOR INSTALLATION OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND WHAT I'M THINKING IS WITH THE SCHOOL BEING IN, IN SESSION NOW, I'M PRETTY, I'M CONFIDENT IT'S GONNA MEET THE, THE WARRANTS NOW DAY C I'M NOT SO SURE OF, BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS ON THAT ONE AT ALL.
DID THAT, DID THAT MAKE SENSE? ME? IT DOES.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THAT ONE BECAUSE WE DID THIS STUDY WHEN SCHOOL SCHOOL WAS NOT THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S PART OF THE, UH, ROAD BOND PROJECTS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, RIGHT? SO A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.
ONE IS THAT WE'RE DESIGNING A ROAD INTERSECTION HERE.
AND SO IT'S CURRENTLY BEING CONSIDERED, I THINK, FOR A ROUNDABOUT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IF THE BONDS ARE PASSED, IT'S THE, COUNCIL'S PROBABLY GONNA WANNA SWITCH THAT TO A SIGNAL ANYWAY, ESPECIALLY IF WE DO THIS NOW.
SO IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS STUDY NOW AND WENT FORWARD WITH THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION, WOULDN'T THERE BE A SIGNAL PUT IN, THEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MULTIPLE INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE PROPOSING TO INSTALL AND IMPROVE IN TERMS OF CROSS INTERSECTIONS.
AND I DON'T, OR I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING TO DO THIS ON ALL OF THOSE ROADS, OR IS THAT INCORPORATED INTO THE ENGINEERING THAT'S PART OF THE ENGINEERING IT'S REQUIRED? YES, SIR.
SO IF WE ARE ENGINEERING BUNTON ROAD, UH, AND IT WILL HAVE WHAT IS REQUIRED IN THAT MULTIPLE MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, AND WE ARE GONNA PUT UP THOSE TEMPORARY SIGNALS.
DO WE STILL HAVE TO DO THIS STUDY NOW BECAUSE THIS STUDY WOULD ESSENTIALLY JUST BECOME, UH, YOU KNOW, USELESS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE DESIGNING A COMPLETE FULL INTERSECTION HERE IN JUST A, A, YOU KNOW, A SHORT ORDER A YEAR OR TWO.
HOPEFULLY THE, THE STUDY THEY DID DID NOT QUITE MEET.
SO THE ENGINEER WAS GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME RECOMMENDING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITHOUT IT MEETING THE WARRANTS.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE DILEMMA THEY WERE HAVING, BUT THEY WERE DIRECTED TO GO AHEAD AND DESIGN IT WITH EITHER A ROUNDABOUT OR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND, AND THE THING IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE FURTHER STUDIES AS, AS THE TRAFFIC GOT MORE INTENSE AND THROUGH THAT AREA, THEN WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A TRAFFIC STUDY AND SEE IF IT'S IMPROVED OR NOT, CUZ IT'S GONNA INCREASE.
TRAFFIC'S GONNA INCREASE THROUGH THERE.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE DONE TRAFFIC STUDIES IN THE PAST AND THEN IT RECOMMENDED THAT IT DIDN'T MEET WARRANT.
AND WE WENT FORWARD WITH THE INTERSECTION ANYWAY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE TOOK ON LIABILITY THEN JUST BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MEET WARRANT BUNTON CREEK AT PHIL MINA WHEN WE TOOK STUDIES IN, IT DID MEET WARRANTS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO INSTALL THE TRAFFIC IN TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT THAT LOCATION, FOR EXAMPLE.
COUNCIL BUSHKILL CAN WE USE THIS STUDY FOR ANY FUTURE USE? LIKE IF WE GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW, CAN WE UTILIZE THAT? I KNOW WE'RE DOING LIKE A ROAD BOND PACKAGE AND I, I, I'M NOT SURE IF I THINK THIS ONE'S ON THERE, BUT CAN WE, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND APPLY THAT? LIKE WE WILL? OKAY.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO GO AHEAD AND DO IT NOW AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE APPLICABLE TO THE, TO THE INTERSECTION THAT WE'RE DESIGNING FOR THE COMPLETE STREET? I BELIEVE IT WOULD.
SO IF, IF YOU'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ENGINEER COME UP AND KIND OF GIVE HER YOUR THOUGHTS ON, ON WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT THEY LOOKED AT.
CARRIE
WE JUST DON'T CUZ WE'RE GETTING READY TO BUILD OUT THIS INTERSECTION AND WE WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.
AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO THIS ROUTE.
I UNDERSTAND, UM, KERRY YER WITH COP FINLEY.
SO WITH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANT, WE LOOKED AT SOME DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES DURING THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM P EER FOR
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THIS INTERSECTION, THEY CAME BACK AND ASKED ME ABOUT WARRANTING IT.WE DID THE TRAFFIC DATA DURING THE SUMMER, WHILE SCHOOL WAS OUT OF SESSION.
DURING THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAPTURED A LOT OF THE COMMUTER TRAFFIC, BUT YOU WERE EXTREMELY SHORT OF WARRANTING IT FOR AN ACTUAL TRAFFIC STUDY FOR SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION.
SO WITH THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC, IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO WARRANT IT.
I CAN'T SAY ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT THE DATA.
AND THAT IS MY ISSUE WITHOUT THE DATA.
I CAN'T SAY IT ABSOLUTELY WARRANTS IT OR NOT.
UH, CAN YOU WANT TO ANSWER YVONNE'S QUESTION ABOUT HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? UH, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS, UM, IF WE DO THIS STUDY, CAN WE UTILIZE IT IN THE, LIKE HOW LONG IN THE FUTURE CAN WE USE IT? IT IS, UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EXACT THINGS, BUT ONCE WE HAVE THE STUDY AND IT'S WARRANTED THAT'S LOCATION, BUILD OUT THE SIGNAL.
UM, IF A SIGNAL, IF A LOCATION IS WARRANTED, IT IS NOT ABSOLUTELY BE RECOMMENDED FOR A SIGNAL.
THIS PROBLEMS, THIS INTERSECTION'S HAVING A LOT OF TRAFFIC ISSUES, TRAFFIC BACKUP.
I KNOW THE COPS ARE OUT THERE DIRECTING TRAFFIC DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
AND SO YOU CAN USE THIS INTO THE FUTURE.
I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'VE ASKED ME TO LOOK AT IS IF IT DOESN'T WARRANT RIGHT NOW, WHEN WILL IT WARRANT, WHEN WILL THAT TRIGGER BE? SO, OKAY.
IS THERE LIKE AN EXPIRATION TIME IF WE DO THIS, UH, STUDY, LIKE, CAN WE USE IT, UH, SAY IF THE BOND PASSES AND WE CAN UTILIZE IT FOR THAT AS WELL, THE LANE CONFIGURATIONS COULD CHANGE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'VE ASKED ME TO LOOK AT IS ALSO THE LANE CONFIGURATIONS OF THIS SIGNAL.
UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW OF A YEAR EXPIRATION DATE, BUT I DO KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHAT IT, THE DIFFERENT IMPACTS OF DIFFERENT LANE CONFIGURATIONS ON THAT INTERSECTION WOULD BE.
MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
FLORIS SCALES THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
ALL OPPOS MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO.
[28. Consider and possible action on a quote from OMJC Signal for the purchase of portable traffic signals in the amount of $331,600.00. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM 28.CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON A QUOTE FROM OJC SIGNAL FOR THE PURCHASE OF, UH, PORTABLE SIG UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE AMOUNT OF 330, $1,600.
MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, AMBER LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD, UM, AT THE RELATED TO THE LAST, UH, ITEM AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, Y'ALL HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WANTING PORTABLE, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
AND SO YOU HAVE A QUOTE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR, UM, TWO COMPLETE INTERSECTIONS, THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC.
UM, THEY CAN BE, UM, COMPRESSED DOWN TO TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC.
UM, BUT THIS WOULD OUTFIT TWO INTERSECTIONS AND YOU COULD, UM, YOU COULD START WITH THE BUN CREEK ROAD AND LAYMAN ROAD INTERSECTION AND THEN BUTTON CREEK IN DC LANE.
AND THEN, AND THEN YOU COULD TAKE THEM WHEREVER YOU MIGHT NEED THEM.
IF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WENT DOWN, YOU COULD MOBILIZE THEM THERE.
UM, I DO HAVE DAVE NAP WITH OM, JC SIGNAL.
UM, HE IS ATTENDING VIRTUALLY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM, HE'S THE BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE.
AND THEN IF YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO PAY FOR THIS THE PURCHASE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, WHAT WE THOUGHT I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ON SOME, SOME LEVELS, BUT DOES, UH, COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT OFF THE BAT? WE WOULD HAVE TO DO STUDIES EACH TIME WE PUT THESE UP.
THAT'S IF THEIR LIGHTS IS THERE TEMPORARY LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I JUST WANNA, IF WE'RE GONNA PUT 'EM UP FOR A CERTAIN AREA, ARE WE GONNA NEED TO REQUIRE A STUDY BEFORE WE EVEN CONSIDER PUTTING THAT THOSE UP? DON'T GET US WRONG.
YOU WANT 'EM? CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION TO BE SINCE THEY'RE TEMPORARY LIGHTS? I'M SORRY THAT I TALK, UH, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN JUST MAKE A CLAUSE OR SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE TEMPORARY AND THEY'RE LIKE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS, STATE MAYOR COUNCIL, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.
UM, MAYOR COUNCIL PAGE SIGNED CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO, UH, LIMIT LIABILITY.
THAT'S GONNA BE STATE LAW IN THE FACTS OF THE CASE.
SO, UH, BUT I, I THINK WE NEEDED SOME INFORMATION ON TEMPORARY LIGHTS AND THE ENGINEERING REQUIRED FOR THAT.
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IF THERE THERE'S A UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL MANUAL, AND THERE'S SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT TELL US WHEN STUDIES ARE REQUIRED.IN SOME CASES, STATE LAW WILL TELL US THAT I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER FOR TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND THEN, UM, I NEED TO LOOK AT THE CASE LAW RELATED TO WHETHER YOUR LIABILITY, YOU HAVE A LIABILITY OR A WAIVER OF IMMUNITY FOR THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEM 28 UNTIL WE RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALE SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
WE HAVE POSTPONE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? UM, YES I WOULD.
I, I ALSO, WE NEED TO GET, WE NEED TO GET CLEAR ON THIS BECAUSE I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN'T PUT UP TEMPORARY SIGNALS WHEN WE NEED TO.
WE ARE THE CITY THAT'S OUR JURISDICTION AND OUR ABILITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO IF THERE'S CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, WE'RE NEEDING, NEEDING TO DIVERT TRAFFIC.
I CAN THINK OF A BUNCH OF SCENARIOS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO PUT IT IN AND A TRAFFIC STUDY WON'T YEAH.
IS NOT GONNA, DOESN'T NEED TO BE REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE LOGICAL SMART DECISIONS.
SO, UH, THE OTHER THING I ACTUALLY DID WANNA BRING UP WAS THERE WAS A, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON, DOES THE, DOES O O MJC HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT BY THE WAY, BECAUSE YOU, YOU MAY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE WITH GO, GO AHEAD, SIR.
YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME NOW? THERE WE GO.
THIS FOR THE RECORD, THIS, UH, THIS IS DAVE NAP.
I'M THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, UH, DIRECTOR FOR OWEN JC.
UM, APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK HERE.
UM, YEAH, AS I, AS I'M KIND OF LISTENING THROUGH THIS, WE, WE SELL THESE SIGNALS KIND OF OUR, OUR APPROACH TO THE MARKETPLACE IS SUCH THAT WE DEAL WITH MUNICIPALITY CITIES, UH, QUITE FREQUENTLY ON THESE SIG SIGNALS.
THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE HEARD OF, OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL STUDY NEEDED BY A CITY FOR LIABILITY PURPOSES TO PUT THESE UP.
WE, WE DEAL WITH MANY, MANY LARGE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, UH, THAT, THAT WE'RE SELLING THESE TO ON A CONSISTENT BASIS THAT, AND THEY'RE PUTTING THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
UH, SO I, I, IN MY SEVEN YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE HEARD OF THAT CERTAINLY ON LARGER PROJECTS WHERE THERE'S, AS YOU'RE DISCUSSING, UH, PLANNING OUT THE, THE PERMANENT INTERSECTION.
OF COURSE THEN YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S THE STUDIES THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT, BUT IN THE TEMPORARY WORLD, THIS WOULD BE, UH, NEW TO ME.
UM, AND, AND MY, MY SENSES WOULD TELL ME THAT, THAT THERE WOULD ALSO BE LIABILITY ASSOCIATED TO, UM, HAVING, UH, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, BRINGING THIS UP AS A CONSISTENT ISSUE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NOT MOVING ON IT.
SO, UH, I GUESS THAT'S JUST MY 10 CENTS FROM MY EXPERIENCE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
WE, WE DIDN'T IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE WE WERE AFRAID OF LIABILITY.
WE, WE DID HAVE IT AT DC DAY SEEM AND BB, WHEN WE HAD THE ROUNDABOUT SITUATION, WE HAD 'EM UP THERE RUNNING AND IT HELPED, IT TOOK A WHILE.
UH, BUT WE DID HAVE 'EM UP AND RUNNING.
WE, WE, WE DIDN'T DO, I DON'T THINK WE DID A STUDY FOR THAT.
UH, DO WE DID DO A STUDY FOR THAT LEON, THE COUNTY DID A STUDY FOR THAT BEFORE WE PUT IT UP.
THAT WAS THAT MAYBE ONE OF THE REASON WHY IT TOOK MAYBE FOUR WEEKS TO GET 'EM,
ALL A POST MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO.
UM, IT, IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE COULD GET, MAYBE GET AN EMAIL ON THAT PAGE, JUST SO WE GET, AS SOON AS YOU HAVE THE ANSWER.
[29.
Consideration and Approval of a Resolution Relating to Establishing the City’s Intention to Reimburse itself for the Prior Lawful Expenditure of Funds Relating to Constructing Various City Improvements from the Proceeds of Tax-Exempt Obligations to be Issued by the City for Authorized Purposes; Authorizing Other Matters Incident and Related Thereto; and Providing an Effective Date. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP, City's Bond Counsel
]NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM 29 CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION RELATING TO ESTABLISHING THE CITY'S INTENT, UH, TO REIMBURSE ITSELF.UM, AND WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE THIS ITEM AS WELL.
UM, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, SO IT'S RELATED TO 28, UH, ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GO TO AGENDA ITEM,
[30. (First Reading) An Ordinance regulating traffic, authorizing and directing the installation and erection of no truck signs on South Street from Front Street to Business 81; in the city limits of Kyle; repealing any ordinance or resolution in conflict; providing a severability clause; declaring a penalty; and providing an effective date. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
NUMBER 31ST READING AND ORDINANCE REGULATING TRAFFIC AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE INSTALLATION AND ERECTION OF NO, UH, ERECTION OF NO TRUCK SIGNS ON SOUTH STREET FROM FRONT STREET TO BUSINESS 81 IN THE CITY LIMITS OF KYLE REPEALING, ANY ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION, UH, IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, DECLARING A PENALTY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.MR. BARB, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON I'M, BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
UH, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, JOE AND GARCIA HAS BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, FEDERAL ROAD RATE, FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION, UH, TECH DOT AND, UH, UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD, UH, STAFF ON TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE QUIET ZONE.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO.
ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT UNION PACIFIC WANTS US TO DO ENSURE THAT THE MEDIA THAT WE'RE GONNA INSTALL ON SOUTH STREET DOES NOT GET DAMAGED OR TORN UP BY ANY, UH,
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WAYWARD TRUCKS OR LONG TRUCKS THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO TRAVEL OVER THAT MEDIAN.SO THEY ARE WANTING BEFORE THEY WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD ON IMPLEMENTING THE QUAD ZONE.
THEY WANT US TO ENSURE THAT, UH, WE WON'T HAVE ANY TRUCKS IN THAT AREA DRIVING OVER THAT MEDIAN AND TEARING IT UP THE MINUTE MINUTE THEY NOTICE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS THAT THEN OUR QUAD ZONE IS GONE.
THEY WILL START BLOWING THE HORN AGAIN.
SO UNTIL WE GET IT FIXED OR GET IT REPAIRED OR GET IT STRAIGHTENED OUT.
SO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WAS FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT A OUT TRUCK ZONE.
WE DID VISIT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, THE LAST FEW DAYS WE'VE BEEN VISITING WITH THEM.
THEY, UH, ASSURED US THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH US ON THAT NO TRUCK ZONE, CUZ THEY, THEY COULD STILL GO THROUGH, UH, FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, UM, THEIR BUSES ARE ABOUT 40 FEET LONG AND WE TESTED FOR 44 FOOT, UH, 44 FOOT LONG TRAILERS.
AND UH, SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THERE.
WE ALSO TALK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE FINE WITH WHAT WE'VE, UH, PROPOSED.
SO WE'VE CHECKED WITH THE TWO MAJOR USERS THAT MIGHT USE THAT INTERSECTION.
UH, IF THERE WAS NO TRUCKS ALLOWED.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN'T REALLY CONTROL IS THE LARGE 18 WHEELERS.
IF WE TRY TO GO THROUGH THERE, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THEY CAN GET THROUGH THERE.
IF WE INSTALL THAT MEDIAN WITHOUT EITHER TEARING UP THE MEDIAN OR TEARING UP THE SIGNALS OR THE SIGNS THAT ARE, WOULD BE PLACED THERE, IMPLEMENT THE QUAD ZONE.
ANY QUESTIONS? CUSTOMER OF FORCE, SCALE.
IS THERE ALREADY ONE O KIND OF OVER THERE? I SAW LIKE A LITTLE MEDIAN THAT SEPARATES THE TWO ROADS.
IS THERE GONNA BE LIKE THAT? I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A MEDIAN THERE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND IT'S IT'S YEAH.
DOES IT GO LIKE, CAUSE I WENT THERE Y THE OTHER DAY AND I WAS LIKE, WHEN DID THIS KID HERE? BUT IT'S BY THE IT'S BY THE RAILROAD TRACK.
LIKE, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THE SEMI'S GONNA WANNA GO THROUGH THAT WE'RE PUTTING A CONCRETE MEDIAN IN, SO IT'S ABOUT EIGHT INCHES TALL.
AND THAT'S, IT'S ABOUT A COUPLE OF FEET WIDE, SO IT WILL BE A HIND THERE FOR, UH, THE LARGER TRUCKS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE INTO ITEM 30 MOTION BY COUNCIL MAYOR FLORES, CAL SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.
THE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[31.
(Second Reading) An ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, amending Chapter 53 of the Code of Ordinances by Amending Article VII Nonconforming Uses and Structures. ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval.
City Council voted 6-0 to approve on first reading, with amendments, on 9/6/2022.
]RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA SKIP 31.
[32.
(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 5.15 acres of land to ‘PUD’ for property located at 3601 Kyle Crossing, in Hays County, Texas. (Hays Commerce Center 5, LP - Z-22-0105) ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning
Planning and Commission voted 4-0 to recommend approval of the request.
- Public Hearing
UH, IT'S P U D FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 36 0 1.
KYLE CROSSING IN HAYES COUNTY.
UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. SSON WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD.
UH, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
LET ME THROW THIS UP ON THE SCREEN REAL QUICK.
BEFORE YOU HAVE PETITION NUMBER Z DASH 22 DASH 1 0 5 FOR 36 0 1, KYLE CROSSING, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS, UH, WHAT THIS REQUEST IS IT'S TO, UH, REZONE LITTLE OVER FIVE ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO PUT, UH, TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE EXISTING HAY COMMERCE CENTER.
UH, THE HAY COMMERCE CENTER IS A WAREHOUSE AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION, MANUFACTURING, UH, ZONED, UH, PLANE UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS, UH, BUSINESSES IN IT, SUCH AS THE FEDEX FACILITY, UM, AND THE OTHER RELATED TILT WALL TYPE, UH, CONSTRUCTION IN IT.
UH, THIS REQUEST IS, IS ABSOLUTELY CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AROUND IT.
UH, THE COMP PLAN ALLOWS BOTH THE WAREHOUSE AND, UH, CM ZONING DISTRICT AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
AND, UM, THE PROP, UH, THE HAYES COMMERCE CENTER, THE DEVELOPER OWNS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY BETWEEN THIS AREA THAT'S OUTLINED IN YELLOW AND VISTA RIDGE DRIVE ALREADY.
SO WHENEVER THEY DO DEVELOP, UM, IT'LL HAVE THE SAME ZONING AND THEY'RE GONNA REPLANT THAT INTO ONE LOT AND JUST BUILD ANOTHER, UH, TAIL WALL TYPE CONSTRUCTION, UH, BUILDING ON IT, THIS CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE.
BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I JUST, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE SKIP NUMBER 31? UH, IT WAS REQUESTED BE THAT WE WERE GONNA SKIP 31 33 AND 34, SO, OKAY.
UM, IS THERE, CAN I KNOW WHY FOR NUMBER 31, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL REVIEW WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO MAKE SURE LOOPHOLES ARE CLOSED AND THAT IT'S A STRONG ORDINANCE.
WELL, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE? I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 32 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLOORS CASE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM 32 IS THE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[35.
[Postponed 9/6/2022] Consider and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City Council Authorizing and Creating the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District in accordance with Chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code; resolving other matters incident and related thereto; and providing an effective date. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager
- Public Hearing
The public hearing was left open at the 9/6/2022 Council meeting.
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COUNCIL AUTHORIZING AND CREATING THE LIMESTONE CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 3 72 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS LEFT OPEN.
UH, MR. LEWIS, AMBER LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH A DEVELOPER AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE HOPE TO HAVE, UM, SOMETHING IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALRIGHT.
SEEING NONE, UM, GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
SECOND BY C TOBIAS IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 36.
FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER, UH, UH, 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS.
UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 9.1, TWO ACRES OF LAND,
[34.
[Postponed 9/6/2022] (First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 18.84 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services) to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development) for property located approximately 400’ southwest of the intersection of Marketplace Ave & City Lights Dr. in Hays County, Texas. (Joe Brooks - Z-22-0099) ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 3-2 to recommend approval of the request.
City Council voted 6-0 to postpone first reading on 9/6/2022.
- Public Hearing
DO WE NEED TO OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING? IT WAS, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT WE PULL THIS ITEM AND WE DON'T TAKE IT UP, BUT BECAUSE IT'S NOTICED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, WE PROBABLY NEED TO OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
WE NEED TO OPEN IT UP AND POSTPONE IT TWO A DAY CERTAIN.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA, UM, ACTUALLY GO BACK TO ITEM 34.
UH, THIS IS FIRST READING IN ORDINANCE MINTING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 18.84 ACRES LAND FROM RS TO, UH, TO P U D FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT, UH, APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF MARKETPLACE AVENUE IN CITY LIGHTS DRIVE.
UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THIS WAS TAKEN UP ON NINE SIX.
UH, DID WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LEAVE IT OPEN AT THE LAST MEETING? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? THINK, I THINK WE DID.
AND THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS LEFT OPEN.
SO, UM, IF THERE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, OPEN.
I'M GONNA MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER, TOBIAS IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[36.
(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 9.12 acres of land to ‘PUD MXD’ for property located at the NW corner of N. Burleson & Marketplace Avenue, in Hays County, Texas. (Julia Parker Family Partnership and the L.W. Parker Family Trust - Z-22-0104) ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 4-0 to postpone this item until the September 27th P&Z meeting. Staff asks the Mayor & Council to postpone consideration until the October 3, 2022 council meeting.
- Public Hearing
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
MR. SSON, UH, WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, UH, BECAUSE, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED TO POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THIS SPECIFIC ITEM UNTIL THEIR NEXT, UH, SCHEDULED MEETING.
UH, BY DEFAULT, WE ARE ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO ALSO DO THE SAME, SO IT CAN BE CONTINUED TO MOVE FORWARD.
RIGHT? AND SO TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONE IT RIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'M GONNA OPEN UP.
THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37.
CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
UH, ACTUALLY BEFORE WE GO INTO THESE NEXT FOUR ITEMS, UH, WE NEED TO BRING BACK UP, UH, TACO BELL.
SO PAGE ERIN COUNCIL PAGE SIGNS FOR THE RECORD, UM, AFTER REVIEWING A BIT, UH, THE ITEM THAT IS THE TACO BELL ITEM IS AN APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN.
YOUR ORDINANCE, YOUR ORDINANCES PROVIDE THAT IF THE SITE PLAN IS COMPLIANT WITH ALL CITY REGULATIONS, IT MUST BE APPROVED.
SO WHEN IT, A SITE PLAN COMES BEFORE YOU IN THIS MANNER, YOU'RE REALLY SERVING JUST AS MINISTERIAL ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION.
AND THE STAFF REPORT HAS PROVIDED THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLIANT.
THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY VARIANCES.
SO THE COUNCIL REALLY DOESN'T HAVE DISCRETION UNDER THE ORDINANCES TO DENY THAT SITE PLAN.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU MOTION TO RECONSIDER THAT VOTE, WHICH YOU CAN DO, AND THEN RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON THAT ITEM.
SO INFERENCE ME THAT WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD BE THE ONE TO DO THAT? THE ONE OF THE CINDY VOTES OR COULD ANY ONE OF US, ANY OF US CAN RECONSIDER, UH, AN, AN ITEM, BUT I JUST, FROM, FROM THE DISSENTING ARE, Y'ALL GONNA STICK WITH YOUR, I MEAN, WE WILL GET, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO APPROVE SITE PLANS THAT ARE COMPLIANT.
IT'S NOT A ZONING, IT'S NOT A ZONING CASE.
SO, AND MAYOR ALEX TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE AN APPROVE, UH, MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND REAPPROVE UM, AGENDA
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ITEM NUMBER 21 COUNCIL MEMBER TOBI.IS THAT A MOTION TO RECONSIDER? YEAH.
FIRST YOU HAVE TO RE TO RE THE ITEM TO RECONSIDER.
THE ITEM IS MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, UM, BRADSHAW THAT WE RECONSIDER.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
CAN, CAN WE DISCUSS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE CITY? WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE REPERCUSSIONS? THE, THE APPLICANT CAN SEEK TO ENFORCE THE, I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING IT.
IF, IF IT'S GONNA BE DONE ANYWAY, THEN WHY WOULD IT BECOME TO US? I THINK IT'S A HORRIBLE LOCATION FOR A TACO BAIL.
THERE IS AWFUL TRAFFIC IN THERE CUZ I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I THINK THE LAST THING PLUM CREEK NEEDS, IT'S ANOTHER FAST FOOT PLACE RIGHT THERE WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S COMPLIANT.
IT'S JUST, UH, AS AN ADVOCATE FOR PLUM CREEK, I THINK IT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA.
AND UM, THAT'S WHY I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT.
I UNDERSTAND YOU ALREADY GOT APPROVED AND IT IS COMPLIANT.
I JUST, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE ON THE BEST ENTRANCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PUT ANOTHER FAST FOOD PLACE WITH A DRIVE THROUGH JAMPACKED IN A ROAD THAT IT'S ONE WAY ROAD.
THE, THE PROBLEM IS THIS IT'S A, IT'S A SITE PLAN THAT IS COMPLIANCE.
SO THE VOTE THAT WE WE ARE TAKING IS A, IS, IS A YES, THIS IS A COMPLIANT SITE PLAN VOTE.
IT IS NOT A LAND USE VOTE AT ALL.
AND SO BY RIGHT, WE ARE COMPELLED TO APPROVE IT AS A COMPLIANT SITE PLAN.
IF WE DO NOT, WE ARE 100% WALKING INTO LITIGATION.
IN ORDER TO GET IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE JUST CAN'T.
THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR BO THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE NEED TO BE AS A BODY IS TO DENY.
MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM 21? CAN I MAKE THAT MOTION? YES.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER, PARTIALLY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES.
K WE RE RECONSIDER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UM, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WAIT SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBI IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
MY, MY CONCERN WAS WITH WHAT WE WERE GIVEN TO LOOK AT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY APPEARS AN ENGINEER, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THESE PLANS AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY EXPLAINED TO ME IN A WAY THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO APPROVE SOMETHING.
AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ARGUE SOMETHING.
AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY, I DON'T LIKE SOMETHING BECAUSE WHEN I SEE IT, IT'S WAY TOO COMPLICATED FOR ME.
AND SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE IF WE HAD SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT AND I DON'T WANNA SOUND LIKE A DUMMY, BUT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND.
I LOOKED AT THIS AND I WAS LIKE, OH, WELL, THEY CLEARLY DON'T WANT ME TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE WHAT THEY GAVE ME WAS OUT OF THE SCOPE OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
AND SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY I VOTED NO CUSTOMER TO BEATS.
ARE, ARE WE IN DISAGREEMENT OF THE ACTUAL ESTABLISHMENT THAT'S GONNA BE IN PLUM CREEK? IS IT, IS IT, IS IT BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT ARE THERE, IF A STARBUCKS DECIDES TO BUILD THERE, WOULD THAT BE A PROBLEM? IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
TRAFFIC, IF A, UM, SOMETHING OF THAT LIKE A DUTCH COFFEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO JUST BE CLEAR ON IT CUZ I KNOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA BRING IT UP.
OH, THEY DON'T WANT A TACO BELL IN BLOOM CREEK, BUT THEY'LL TAKE A STARBUCKS OR THEY'LL TAKE ANOTHER ONE, BUT THAT'LL BE NO PROBLEM.
SO, BUT AGAIN, IF IT'S IN COMPLIANT AND IF THAT'S, AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS WILLING TO SELL IT FOR WHATEVER IT IS AND THEY'RE ALL IN, IN FAVOR.
UM, DO WE HAVE A SAY, SO AS FAR AS WE DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF BUSINESS IN THAT AREA? WELL, I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT FOR MANY YEARS, ESPECIALLY IN PLUM CREEK, THERE HAVE BEEN SITE PLANS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD WITH USES THAT I DID NOT WANNA VOTE ON MANY, MANY TIMES OVER, BUT BY LAW WE ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE THEM.
WE'RE NOT ABLE TO LOOK AT USES AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IF IT IT'S ALREADY GOT THE ZONING.
SO AT THE SITE PLAN LEVEL, THERE'S JUST NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO.
SO I, I'M NOT, MY VOTE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY OPINION ON THE, THE, THE USE, UH IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THE SITE PLAN IS COMPLIANT.
STAFF IS THE ONE WHO HAS THE EXPERTISE TO REVIEW SITE PLANS.
IF THEY SAY THAT IT'S COMPLIANT, THEN WE'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS ON CONSENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN ITEM FOR EVEN REALLY FOR DEBATE.
AND SO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING EVEN PUTS US IN A POSITION OF LIABILITY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF USE
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ON A SITE PLAN VOTE.SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL AND KNOW WHAT OUR ROLE IS HERE ON, ON THIS ITEM, UH, IN PARTICULAR.
SO, UM, COUNCIL, MAYOR PARSLEY, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY WHETHER THERE IT GOES IS STARBUCKS OR, UH, DUTCH BROTHERS OR A BAGEL SHOP, I THINK IS JUST A BAD LOCATION.
JUST GETTING OUT OF PLUM CREEK ON THAT ROAD.
AND IF YOU DRIVE THAT, YOU WILL SEE IT NOW WHEN WE ARE GONNA HAVE TRAFFIC AND I UNDERSTAND IT, IT IS COMPLIANT AND YOU KNOW, IT GOT APPROVED.
I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S A BAD IDEA.
AND WE WILL SEE THE TRAFFIC GEMS AND WE WILL HEAR THE COMPLAINTS FROM ADDING ANOTHER RETAIL THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH WHEN WE HAVE A GAS STATION HERE, GAS STATION HERE, WALGREENS.
AND THEN WE HAVE SONIC AND TACO BELL.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING ON THE OTHER CORNER, PROBABLY SOME, SO THAT, THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN CAN COME VENEZUELAN FOOD AND I WILL STILL VOTE.
NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
THAT TRAFFIC THERE IS, IS CRAZY.
AND THAT IS WHY I SAID NO TO THE STOP SIGN BECAUSE IT HELPS REDUCE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC THERE, BUT IT'S JUST, I, IN MY OPINION, IT'S GONNA BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT ON EAST WEST SIDE.
UM, IF, IF THE WAY I LOOK AT ON THAT END, I UNDERSTAND IT WOULD BE THE TRAFFIC THERE, BUT IF, IF THEY ARE IN COMPLIANT AND, AND THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE STATE GUIDELINES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HAVE TO GO WITH WHATEVER, UH, THE REGULATION STATE AND WHATEVER IS THE LIABILITY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR FORK.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THESE SITE PLANS TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE THE ENTRANCE TO GET INTO THIS, UH, TACO BELL WILL BE? SO IT'S, UH, IT'S A LOT, THAT'S, UH, AN UNDEVELOPED LOT THAT'S BETWEEN THE WALGREENS AND THE SONIC.
SO IT'S GONNA HAVE A INNER, UH, CONNECTING, UH, DRY AISLE, UM, AT THE FRONT THERE TO THE PLAN LEFT.
AND I'LL, I'LL ANNOTATE RIGHT HERE.
SO, SO IT'S NOT GONNA EVEN HAVE ITS OWN OPENING.
IT'S GONNA SHARE AN OPENING WITH TWO OTHER.
YES, MA'AM IT'S SUPPOSED TO AND TEXT DOT ALSO LIMITS, UH, DIRECT ACCESS DRIVEWAYS FOR CERTAIN, FOR MINIMUM SPAC DISTANCES AS WELL.
SO HERE'S MY ISSUE WITH THAT AND I'M SURE THERE'S NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO CHICK-FIL-A
IT AFFECTS THE WHOLE AREA, ALL THE RESTAURANTS.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY TO TRY TO AVOID THAT.
BUT WHEN WE START TO PUT THESE ALL, ALL THESE ENTRANCES IN THE SAME COMING FEEDING FROM THE SAME DIRECTION, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S BAD PLANNING ON OUR BEHALF.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I DON'T, I, I GIMME SOME GRACE, BUT, UM, I JUST, I, I FEEL THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME I GO TO, YOU KNOW, MCDONALD'S OR I GO TO THAT AREA AND I SEE ALL THESE SHARED, UH, LANES AND THE BACKED UP TRAFFIC THAT IT CAUSES.
AND GOING BACK TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY SAID, IT IS GONNA BE, IT IS GONNA BE CRAZY BACKED UP IN THERE.
UM, AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T, I CAN'T REALLY SAY FOR CERTAIN WHAT I'M, I'M LOOKING AT, AND MAYBE IT WILL MAKE SENSE, AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
SO AS IF I MAY, AS A, FROM A FAST FOOD PERSPECTIVE, GENERALLY FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS WITH DRIVE THROUGHS HAVE A UNIDIRECTIONAL, UH, CIRCULATION WHEN IT COMES TO DRIVE THROUGHS.
SO AS YOU'RE LOOKING SONICS TO THE SOUTH, SO IF YOU COME IN FROM THE SOUTH AND YOU PASS IN FRONT OF SONIC THROUGH THAT DRIVE AISLE RIGHT THERE, AND AS SOON AS YOU CROSS INTO THIS PROPERTY, YOU TURN RIGHT.
UM, AND I'M DRAWING IT RIGHT HERE.
YOU'LL GET INTO THE, THE DRIVE-THROUGH LANE RIGHT HERE AND GO ROUND.
AND THEN GETTING OUT BACK INTO THAT SHARED ACCESS DRIVE AISLE.
THAT'S AN EGGS EXIT ONLY RIGHT THERE COMING FROM THE DRIVE THROUGH WINDOWS.
THEY ALSO HAVE ADDED, AND THEY HAVE ENOUGH ROOM, WHICH I'M THANKFUL FOR, UM, FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED TO LEAVE THE DRIVE THROUGH UNEXPECTEDLY SO THEY CAN GET OUT THERE.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A SINGLE LANE DRIVE THROUGH FROM A, A FOOD ACCESS POINT, BUT YOU, THEY DO HAVE SUFFICIENT, UM, ACCESS AROUND THE PERIMETER IS SO THEY CAN GET OUT AS WELL.
AND E EVERYTHING IS ABSOLUTELY COMPLIANT.
SO THIS IS FOLLOWING THE CODE FOR THE MXD Z DISTRICT.
SO, UM, BOTH THE MAYOR AND, UH, LEGAL ARE CORRECT WHEN IT COMES TO THE APPROVAL PROCESS OF IT.
SO, YEAH, WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT.
AND SO WE WEREN'T TRYING TO DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL.
WE WERE JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES, WHAT WE THOUGHT WE, WE SHOULD DO.
AND SO, UM, YEAH, IT'S RECONSIDERED AND I'M PRETTY SURE IT'LL PASS UNANIMOUSLY.
WELL, I WISH I WISH THAT I COULD GIVE MY OPINION ON IT AND VO, CUZ I'M JUST GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH, Y'ALL ABOUT USE ON THIS, BUT IT'S JUST, THERE'S A REASON WHY
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THE LAWS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE.SO I, I, I WISH I WISH THAT IT WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AS WELL.
[37. Consider and possible action to issue a Request for Proposals for professional services to assist the city in the recruitment and selection of the City Manager. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]
ALL RIGHT.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37, CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO ASSIST THE CITY MANAGER, UH, IN THE RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER.
UH, THIS IS, UH, AMBER'S ITEM.
UH, IT'S REALLY, UH, SORT OF COUNCIL LED, UH, AS WELL.
AMBER IS, UH, PROVIDING SOME HELP.
SO GENERALLY THE PROCESS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD ISSUE AN RFP, A FIRM, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO, WE COULD JUST NOTICE THE JOB AND LET PEOPLE APPLY AND GO THAT ROUTE.
UH, OR WE COULD, THE MORE COMMON ROUTE IS TO ALLOW FOR FIRMS TO ASSIST, UH, WITH THAT RECRUITMENT, WHICH JUST WOULD BE MY, UH, PREFERENCE.
BUT DO Y'ALL HAVE THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS, CUSTOMER AND PARSLEY.
I MEAN, AGREEING WITH MAYOR MITCHELL, I THINK THAT, UM, ENGAGING A FIRM WILL BE THE BEST WAY TO GO.
I, I THINK IT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE A CITY MANAGER WITHIN SIX MONTHS NOW, NO LATER THAN THAT.
SO THE FASTER WE CAN DO AND PICK THE RIGHT PERSON, THE BETTER CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE, COULD WE DO AN RFQ INSTEAD OF AN RFP? CAUSE THE QUEUE IS FOR QUALIFICATIONS, RIGHT? SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE LIKE CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS THAT I THINK THAT I, WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO I'M A RECOVERING FINANCE DIRECTOR.
SO I DON'T KNOW AS, AS MUCH AS PERVEZ KNOWS ABOUT THAT, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, RFQ IS LIMITED TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SUCH AS ENGINEERING AND I DON'T ARCHITECTURE, ARCHITECTURE.
AND SO, UM, THEIR STATE LAW THAT PROTECTS THEM THAT SAYS THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE PRICES.
THEY ONLY HAVE TO PROVIDE QUALIFICATIONS.
ALL OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES HAVE TO BE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, WHICH INCLUDES PRICE AND IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND PRICE.
WHEN THINKING ABOUT THEM, ARE THERE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UM, UH, LET'S TALK PROCESS.
SO HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO BE? UM, HOW LONG ARE YOU PLANNING TO, UH, HAVE IT OUT? I, I THINK WE COULD HAVE IT OUT FOR THREE, THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
UM, AND HAVE A QUICK TURNAROUND, UM, HAVE THE, UM, THE COMMITTEE REVIEW, BRING BACK THE TOP TWO TO BE INTERVIEWED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
NOT DIFFERENT FROM HOW WE DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, FIRM SELECTION.
AND NOW I WAS GONNA SAY THAT WAS MY, MY THINKING WOULD BE TO HAVE, UH, A CHOICE FOR THE COUNCIL, A CHANCE FOR THE COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY INTERVIEW THESE TWO FIRMS, ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR METHOD FOR, AND THEN, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AS A GROUP, AS FAR AS WHO WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD.
SO WE'RE JUST, WE WOULD JUST FOR A MINUTE, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST TWO CANDIDATES AND I WAS LIKE, AND WE WENT AND SEE THE REST OF THE APPLICATIONS, BUT NO YOU'RE SAYING, SO THE FIRMS THAT WOULD HELP US OUT NARROWED NARROWED THEM TO TWO.
THAT'S A GREAT, AND THEN WE START THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LOOKING WE'RE, THERE'S SOME LAYERS TO THIS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US SET, SET TO TRY TO HIRE THIS FIRM IN TWO MEETINGS TIME.
SO I DON'T, I, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS FOR THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S DOABLE.
I THINK WE CAN TURN THAT AROUND QUICKLY.
SO THE INTENT WILL BE FOR US TO TRY IF WE CAN TO MAKE A SELECTION AT THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER.
I THINK THAT'D BE, UH, A GREAT DIRECTION CHOOSING THE FIRM THAT WAY WE CAN SEE WHAT DIRECTION THAT THEY LOOK AT THEIR CANDIDATES, RIGHT? BECAUSE DIFFERENT FIRMS MAY HAVE DIFFERENT, UH, POSSIBILITIES.
THEY MAY HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, SOME ARE FOCUSED ON ENGINEERING AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASPECTS OF DIFFERENT CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE JUST LIKE OURS THAT ARE AT 60,000 PLUS GOING UP AND WE CAN BE ABLE TO, THEY CAN HAVE THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE RIGHT FIRM TO LOOK AT, TO SEE WHO COULD THEN GO AFTER THE RIGHT CANDIDATES THAT WOULD FIT THE NEEDS OF OUR CITY.
THIS PERSON OVER HERE, THIS FIRM THAT THEY GO AFTER IS FOR BIG METROPOLITAN THAT ARE OVER 200, 300 PLUS WHEN WE NEED SOMETHING, THAT'S BASICALLY WE'RE AT THE, THE, THE GROWTH OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
THEY CAN TAILOR TO YOU THE, THIS COUNCIL, UH, THIS SPOT, WHAT'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT Y'ALL WANT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT, WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE, ARE REQUESTING AND SO FORTH AND HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY AND, AND HAVE THAT FEEDBACK.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 37
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AND TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF, UH, TO BRING BACK, UH, THE TOP TWO CANDIDATES FOR COUNCIL INTERVIEW AT THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.FIVE MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO.
[38. Direction to staff regarding enforcement of existing sign ordinance related to signs located in the right-of-ways and feather flags. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
ALL RIGHT.I'M 38 DIRECTION TO STAFF REGARDING ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING SIDE ORDINANCE, UH, RELATED TO SIGNS LOCATED IN THE RIGHT, UH, AND, UH, FEATHER FLAGS.
SO, UM, SORRY TO BRING THIS UP.
I DO NOT WANT TO, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH OF A, UH, AN ISSUE I HA LIKE IT'S LIKE GIVING ME, UM, YEAH, TRACY KNOWS.
UM, SO, UH, WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW IN OUR CITY AND THE ISSUE IS THAT, AND, AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS TO GIVE STAFF COMPLETE, UM, UH, PROTECTION FROM, FROM US, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR SIGNED ORDINANCE VERY CLEARLY SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE FEATHER FLAGS IN THE CITY.
AND IT ALSO VERY CLEARLY SAYS THAT, UH, SIGNS CANNOT BE PLACED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND IF THEY ARE THEN, UH, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT IS TO, UH, PULL THEM UP.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, UH, POLITICAL SIGNS CAN, CAN CREATE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTERNATION AND BACK AND FORTH.
UH, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE A LOT OF POLITICAL SIGNS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF EVERY, EVERY DIFFERENT KIND OF RACE, EVERY DIFFERENT KIND OF, UM, PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO THEY, I THINK STAFF IS KIND OF IN A BIT OF A CONUNDRUM ABOUT KNOWING WHAT TO DO.
SO I WANTED US TO BE THE ONES TO GIVE, GIVE THE DIRECTION, UH, TO STAFF, TO PULL ANY SIGNS, WHETHER IT'S POLITICAL OR OTHERWISE THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, UH, OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH OUR LAWS.
AND THEN I ALSO, IT IS, IT'S BEEN MANY YEARS AGO THAT WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE FEATHER FLAG, UH, SITUATION, IT GOT, IT BASICALLY GOT TO A PLACE WHERE STAFF JUST SAID, WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA ENFORCE THAT PART OF OUR SIGN ORDINANCE ANYMORE.
AND SO PEOPLE STARTED SLOWLY PUTTING UP FEATHER FLAGS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT JUST DIDN'T ENFORCE THAT SECTION.
UH, THE FEATHER FLAGS HAD GOTTEN JUST COMPLETELY OUTTA HAND.
AND IN CERTAIN SECTIONS, THERE ARE FEATHER FLAGS THAT ARE JUST, AND JUST DISREPAIR.
THEY'RE JUST NOT, IT'S JUST, IF WE WANT TO HAVE FEATHER FLAGS ALLOWED, WE NEED TO DO IT BY SIDE ORDINANCE AT THIS POINT.
AND IF WE DON'T, WE NEED TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO ENFORCE THE FEATHER FLAG SECTION OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE.
SO MY REQUEST AND HOPE WOULD BE THAT FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM FORWARD IS TO GIVE DIRECTION ON THOSE TWO THINGS.
AND ALL THE DIRECTION IS, IS TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION, TO FOLLOW OUR SIGN ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO RIGHT AWAY.
AND AS IT RELATES TO FEATHER FLAGS, UM, THAT'S A MOTION SECOND.
AND BY COUNSELOR BRADSHAW, THEIR DISCUSSION CUSTOMER PARTIALLY.
SO THE ENFORCEMENT WILL COME THROUGH WHICH DEPARTMENT? THE CODE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE RESIDENTS FIGURE OUT WHERE THE RIGHT OF AWAYS ARE? SO, BECAUSE I'M NOT, I CAN'T, I HATE TO THINK THAT EVERYBODY JUST PUTS IN THERE KNOWING IT'S A RIGHT OF WAY.
MAYBE THEY DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROVIDE SAY IF, UM, NEXT YEAR, IF I WAS RUNNING AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT IS A RIGHT OF WAY? AND I JUST PUT IT IN THE WRONG PLACE.
I MEAN, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T DO IT ON PURPOSE, BUT I MAY NOT KNOW YOU'RE SAYING LIKE IN, IN FRONT OF YOUR YARD, IF YOU HAD LIKE A, I WAS IN THE CITY, LIKE YEAH, LIKE OVER BY HEB, LIKE I GET CONFUSED, I SEE ALL THESE SIGNS AND, AND I WAS LIKE, DO THEY HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION? CUZ EVERYBODY'S OVER THERE.
BUT WHAT IF IT'S, IF, IF IT'S IN THE RIGHT WAY, HOW DO WE KNOW RIGHT AWAY IS LIKE THE LOCATION IN THE CITY? LIKE THE DIFFERENT PLACES DON'T DO IT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S AN ANSWER, BUT RIGHT AWAY THERE'S SNAKE RIGHT AWAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO THERE, YOU CAN GET REAL DRACONIAN IN THE WAY THAT YOU DO IT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, DID YOU KNOW THAT, UH, THE GRASS IN BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK, IF, IF THERE'S A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF YOUR YARD AND THERE'S GRASS IN BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROAD, THAT'S TECHNICALLY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND YOU CAN'T PUT A POLITICAL SIGN THERE YET, IT GETS DONE PRETTY MUCH JUST CONSISTENTLY.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING THAT.
ALTHOUGH THAT IS, I STILL THINK NEEDS TO BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF STAFF.
BUT MAINLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS ON OUR MAIN ROADS WHERE SIGNS ARE BEING PUT UP, UH, UH, JUST BLATANTLY IN I'M THEY BLATANTLY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE NEED TO GO AND, AND WE NEED TO CLEAN, CLEAN THAT UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ON FENCE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMPLICATED, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S KIND OF MAYBE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER THERE'S DISCRETION THERE.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CAUSE TONS OF POLITICAL STIR HERE, BUT WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO IS SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T PUT IT IN THE RIGHT WAY, JUST CLEARLY IN THE RIGHT WAY.
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IF IT'S LIKE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEN I PROBABLY THAT'S FINE.BUT IF IT'S JUST RIGHT OUT IN THE ROAD, THEN WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE.
AND THAT ALSO APPLIES TO LIKE REALTORS, LIKE, AND ON THE WEEKENDS THEY COME IN, CUZ I THINK THEY THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT'S NOT IN AND THEY JUST, THEY JUST PUT ALL THEIR SIGNS UP ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US, UM, SEND CODE ENFORCEMENT OUT EVERY ONE, ONE SWEEP EVERY SUNDAY ON THE MAJOR ROADS AND JUST START PICKING UP THOSE SIGNS.
DO IT FIRST THING ON SUNDAY MORNING, CUZ THERE'S PROBABLY, I DID ONCE I DID A LOOP, UM, UH, I DIDN'T GO ON THE EAST.
I JUST DID THE LOOP 1626, UH, AND AROUND UH, 27 70, ALTHOUGH THAT'S TECHNICALLY NOT OUR JURISDICTION, IT'S NOT OUR RIGHT AWAY.
UH, AND THEN BACK DOWN CENTER STREET, UH, AND I FOUND LIKE SIX OVER 60 SIGN CODE VIOLATIONS.
AND I WAS TAKING PICTURES OF 'EM ALL JUST ONE RIGHT AFTER THE OTHER, RIGHT AFTER THE OTHER.
AND THERE ARE SOME NOTORIOUS OFFENDERS LIKE ANTHEM AND GIAN HOLMES EVERY WEEKEND.
THEY JUST FLOOD OUR RIGHT AWAY WITH SIGNS AND IT DRIVES ME NUTS AND I WANT THEM TO STOP.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SOME SOFTWARE, SOME CLICK AND LIKE SUBMIT THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LAST YEAR THAT WOULD COME IN REALLY HANDY DURING THAT TIME.
SO INSTEAD OF CALLING, UM, A CODE ENFORCEMENT, WE COULD JUST TAKE A PICTURE AND SEND IT TO THEM.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK FOR NEXT YEAR TOO.
UM, BUT ALSO GOING BACK, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE THE RIGHT OF AWAYS ARE.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE DEPOT, MAYBE I KNOW THAT TENDS TO BE AN ISSUE.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE RESIDENTS AND THE BUSINESSES UNDERSTAND WHETHER RIGHT AWAYS TO ME, IT'S THE, THE IN TERMS OF THE POLITICAL SIGNAGE, THE ONES THAT ARE BEING PUT OUT ARE BEING PUT OUT BY THE CANDIDATES.
SO THE CANDIDATES NEED TO, THEY CAN CALL UP CITY HALL.
THEY COULD SAY, HEY, IS THIS RIGHT AWAY OR NOT? BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT.
THEY'RE JUST PUTTING STUFF OUT THERE AND HOPING IT STICKS.
SO THAT'S THE PART PART WHERE I'M SAYING LIKE, WE NEED TO BE THE ONES WHO LEAD AND ARE CLEAR THAT YOU CAN'T PUT SIGNS UP IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THEN YOU NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE FEATHER FLAGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE ANY MORE MEANINGFUL TO YOU IF YOU PUT IN AN ORDINANCE UN TORN OR UNWEATHERED ONES COULD.
SO I WROTE A BIG UPDATE TO THE FEATHER CUZ I WAS AT THAT AT THE TIME THE COUNCIL WAS UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST FEATHER FLAGS AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET FEATHER FLAGS TO BE MADE.
CUZ I HAD TWO, $200 FEATHER FLAGS IN MY BUSINESS THAT I PUT UP AND THEY GOT TAKEN DOWN OR I GOT ORDERED TO TAKE THEM DOWN BY CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL AS ON I 35 IT WAS LIKE, GREAT.
AND I'M LIKE SMALL BUSINESS GUY AND YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO NOTICE MY BUSINESS AND THE CITY WAS TELLING, SO I'D LIKE SYMPATHETIC TO IT.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE THERE IT'S ALREADY IN THE CODE THAT SAYS THAT YOU AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS, AND I I'D LIKE REDUCED IT ONE PER LIKE HOW YOU COULD DO IT.
AND I COULD BRING ALL THAT BACK IF YOU WANNA OPEN IT UP.
BUT IT IS COMPLICATED, WHICH IS WHY IT'S JUST OUTLAWED IN GENERAL.
SO I MEAN, I DO KIND OF FEEL CUZ LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S THE SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT DO THAT.
UM, AND SO I WOULD HATE TO TAKE AWAY THEIR MEANS OF ADVERTISEMENT.
THE PROBABLY THE CHEAPEST MEANS OF ADVERTISEMENT.
BUT SO, BUT I MEAN HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT ME TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WITH OUR SIGNED ORDINANCE? CUZ IT'S IT'S IT'S EVERYWHERE.
I MEAN THERE, BUT STAFF BRING IT BACK, BRING BACK WHAT, UH, UPDATES TO THE SITE ORDINANCE.
I PROMISE YOU IT IS A CAN OF WORMS STAFF DOES NOT WANNA TOUCH OUTSIDE.
I MEAN, EVENTUALLY IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GET LOOKED AT RIGHT.
EVENTUALLY IT'S GONNA HAVE TO GET TOUCHED OR YOU'RE GONNA FOREVER HAVE THIS PROBLEM.
WELL, BUT IT'S YOU GOTTA ENGAGE THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY IF YOU WANNA CHANGE IT.
SO LIKE RIGHT NOW YOU CANNOT PUT UP TEMPORARY SIGNAGE.
LIKE UM, IF YOU'RE GOING UP 16, 26 SAGE, THAT NEW BUSINESS IS COMING IN.
WHENEVER YOU PUT BANNERS UP ON THE SIDES OF FENCES AND ON THE SIDES OF YOUR, UH, BUSINESS, ALL OF THAT'S ILLEGAL IN THE CITY AND IT'S UP ALL OVER TOWN AND IT'S, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT AGAINST OUR SIDE ORDINANCE.
YOU CAN'T PUT IT UP ON, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT CHAIN LINK FENCES? YOU CAN'T PUT SIGNS UP EXCEPT BY PERMIT AND THERE'S SQUARE FOOTAGE RIGHTS.
AND WITH PERMISSION OF CITY HALL, ALL KINDS OF RULES, YOU SHOULD READ IT.
YOU KNOW, SECTION 29 OF THE, UH, OF, UH, OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES.
UH, AND IT'S JUST NOT VERY WELL FOLLOWED.
UH, AND THEN, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WANNA PUT A BIG SIGN UP A WAY TO GET AROUND IT AS YOU PUT IT ON A TRAILER, SO THAT SAGE PLACE, THAT NEW, UM, SENIOR LIVING, THEY'VE GOT A TRAILER PARKED OUT THERE, RIGHT THERE WITH THIS MASSIVE SIGN.
AND IT'S TOTALLY NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE SPIRIT CUZ THEY'RE USING IT AS A PERMANENT SIGN, BUT IT'S ON A WHEELS.
AND SO THEY'RE THAT ONE IS TECHNICALLY COMPLIANT AND YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S JUST, BUT WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK WOULD AT LEAST MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO KEEP OUR RIGHT AWAY BETTER IS TO JUST HAVE STAFF GO OUT, TAKE CARE OF THE FED FLAGS AND TAKE JUST THAT'S AT LEAST ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO.
SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT CUSTOMER AND PARSLEY? DO WE
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CHARGE ANY FEE? UM, IS THERE ANY, UM, PENALTY FOR THOSE SIGNS, THE OWNERS OF THE SIGNS? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ACTUALLY.I THINK THEY JUST GET TAKEN UP, BUT YOU DO GET CITED.
I'M SURE THAT I'M SURE YOU HAVE POWER TO DO IT.
IF YOU, I DON'T THINK WE EVER HAVE, BECAUSE WHAT I'M THINKING IS CAN WE CHARGE A FEE TO THE VIOLATORS TO GET THE SIGNS BACK CITATION? UH, PEDRO HERNANDEZ CITATION? YEAH.
PEDRO HERNANDEZ, THE POLICE CAPTAIN FOR THE RECORD, WE CAN ISSUE CITATIONS.
UH, OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS OWNERS AND OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
SO WE TRY TO TAKE THE EDUCATION ROUTE.
WE GO SEND OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO EDUCATE THEM ON THE ORDINANCE AND YOU KNOW, WE SEEK VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.
WE CAN, WE CAN ISSUE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM A TICKET, BUT THAT'S YOU'RE, I'M JUST, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT IT.
I'M THINKING IF WE ARE REALLY GONNA GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO ENFORCE ORDINANCE, THEN MAY AS WELL JUST CHARGE A FEE AND THEN THEY WILL LEARN REAL QUICK, BUT THAT WOULD BE THEIR, THAT'LL BE UP TO THEIR DISCRETION TO THERE'S CHIEF COMPLIANCE THERE.
THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF HAS A LOT OF DISCRETION AND THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING CITE SOMEBODY WHEN THEY'RE WITHIN SIX INCHES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY? OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT ONE THING THAT OUR OFFICERS HAVE TO USE THEIR DISCRETION BECAUSE YEAH, WE CAN'T IT'S, IT'S NICE TO SAY WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, ZERO TOLERANCE.
BUT I MEAN THERE'S THERE, I MEAN, THERE'S NUMEROUS, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID NUMEROUS SIGNS AND BANNERS THAT THAT ARE IN VIOLATION AND THERE THEY'RE, THERE COULD BE SMALL BUSINESSES, NEW BUSINESSES.
I MEAN IT COULD BE ACROSS THE STREET.
I MEAN WE SEE IT ESPECIALLY ELECTION TIME, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, YEAH, WE, I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WHAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE AND WE'LL DO, WHAT'S ASKED OF US, BUT I MEAN I ALSO, OUR STAFF HAS TO HAVE DISCRETION, YOU KNOW, TAKE YOUR, I DON'T EVERYONE TAKE ANY DISCRETION FROM OUR STAFF.
SO I WOULD SAY TO YOUR DISCRETION, TO STAFF DISCRETION, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT IF WE REALLY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CLEAR THIS, WE MIGHT GIVE THAT DIRECTION TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE SEEN SOMEBODY IS NOT COMPLIANT A COUPLE OF TIMES, THEN IT WILL BE TIME TO GIVE A FEE SURE.
WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE THAT APPROACH.
AND WE TAKE THAT APPROACH WITH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, UH, SITUATION.
SO, UM, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, I, THIS SHOULD SERVE AS WARNING TO THE POLITICAL FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
THERE'S A LOT, THIS IS A, THIS IS A BIG ELECTION.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT DON'T START FILLING OUT POLICE REPORTS THAT YOUR SIGNS WERE STOLEN BY YOUR COMPETITOR, OUR CODE.
SO I MEAN THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DO A GOOD JOB OF, OF CONTACTING, YOU KNOW, CONTACTING ANYBODY WHO THEY PICK UP A SIGN, RIGHT FROM WHETHER IT'S IT'S POLITICAL SIGN OR A REALTOR SIGN, THEY, THEY TRIED TO EVERYTHING TO DO TO GET THAT SIGN BACK TO THEM.
AND THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING IS IS THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PUT IN THE PACKAGE FOR THE CANDIDATES, CORRECT INFORMATION ON WHERE THEY CAN PUT THEIR SIGNS AND WHERE THEY OR NOT.
WELL, THIS, I MEAN, IN THIS ELECTION, THE MAJORITY OF THE CANDIDATES ARE NOT EVEN CITY CANDIDATES.
I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A TON BECAUSE OF DISTRICT ONE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND THEY'RE ALL VIOLATING IT.
IT'S NOT, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ABOUT LOCAL.
AND I UNDERSTAND, I JUST THINK IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR AT LEAST THE CITY CANDIDATES, WHICH WE CAN CONTROL TO HAVE INFORMATION ON THE PACKAGE OF WHERE THEY CAN HANG THEIR SIGNS.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY THOUGH.
I JUST THINK IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, JERRY? ARE YOU CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING? YES, SIR.
AND I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE MAY DO A PRESS RELEASE TOMORROW, GIVE HIM FIVE DAYS NOTICE BEFORE WE START PULLING THEIR SIGNS.
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? ALL RIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO SAY AYE.
[39.
(First Reading) Consider approving an Ordinance adopting a policy for members of the City Council regarding City business expenses charged on City issued credit card and reimbursement of expenses incurred in carrying-out official duties. ~ Perwez A. Moheet, CPA, Director of Finance
- Public Hearing
UH, FIRST READING CONSIDER APPROVING AN ORDINANCE, ADOPTING A POLICY FOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING SI CITY BUSINESS EXPENSES CHARGED ON THE CITY ISSUED CREDIT CARD AND REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENSES INCURRED, UH, IN CARRYING OUT OFFICIAL DUTIES.
UH, THIS IS MR. MO HEAT'S ITEM.
THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WHILE HE'S COMING.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
I'M VEMO HATE CITY DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
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WILL BE EASIER THAN THE SIGN ORDINANCEAND IF YOU RECALL FROM THAT DISCUSSION, UM, I WAS ASKED BY, BY COUNCIL TO INCORPORATE THE, IS RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNCIL APPOINTED CITIZEN COMMITTEE ON, ON COUNCIL COMPENSATION.
THEY MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO, TO BE INCORPORATED IN POLICY AND I HAVE INCLUDED THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT BASICALLY ADDRESSES, UM, OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHETHER THEIR TERM IS COMPLETE OR THEY RESIGN.
SO THAT HAS BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
NOW YOU HAVE A DRAFT BEFORE YOU, IF YOU LIKE TO GO ITEM BY ITEM, OR IF YOU WANNA APPOINT A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL, HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED.
I, I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD, FRANKLY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO ALL THAT.
I HAVE ONE, UH, OR TWO THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.
SO, UM, NUMBER ONE IS THAT, THAT COMMITTEE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MADE IT IN TERMS OF AN OFFICIAL VOTE, BUT IS SOMETHING I WANT US TO BRING UP THE WAY THAT THIS POLICY IS WRITTEN.
UM, THE IT'S, UH, EACH BUDGETED ITEM WITHIN OUR BUDGET HAS THERE'S MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT, THERE'S, UH, FOOD TRAVEL THERE'S, UM, BOOKS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, IT WAS RECOMMENDED FROM THAT COMMITTEE OR AT LEAST FROM THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE, THAT OUR, UM, POLICY BE THAT IF THERE IS ONE ITEM WHERE WE EXCEED THE BUDGETED AMOUNT, BUT THERE IS CAPACITY WITHIN THE OTHER ITEMS THAT IT WOULD CARRY OVER.
I BELIEVE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH STAFF POLICY AS WELL IN TERMS OF HOW THEY DEAL WITH THESE TYPES OF THINGS IN THEIR BUDGET.
SO, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S WRITTEN IN HERE.
WHAT'S WRITTEN IN HERE IS THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM IS A HARD, IS A HARD CAP.
AND SO IF ONE PERSON IS USING MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT MORE HEAVILY THAN SOMEONE ELSE WHO MIGHT BE USING SOME OTHER FACTOR, UH, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE MORE PUNITIVE THAN I THINK MAYBE IS NECESSARY.
SO I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT WE JUST ALLOW FOR, WE KEEP THE ITEM, THE BUDGET THE SAME, BUT WE ALLOW THE, THE DIFFERENT, UH, CATEGORIES WITHIN THE BUDGET TO BE FUNGIBLE SO LONG AS WE DON'T EXCEED, UH, OUR BUDGETED AMOUNT IS IF THAT MAKES SENSE, CUSTOMER BRADSHAW.
I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE ALL SERVE IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EACH SHOW UP AND UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS THE BEST WAY THAT WE SEE FIT THAT'S MOST EFFECTIVE FOR HOW WE, OUR ROLES IN THIS POSITION.
SO IS THAT, ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND? IS THERE OTHER, IS THERE OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? UM, I HAVE ALL KINDS OF, I HAVE ALL QUESTIONS.
WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO GO THROUGH ONE THING AT A TIME, JUST, OKAY.
SO IT WOULD, SO YOU'RE, IF YOU DID, IF YOU DID WANNA MAKE A MOTION, WHAT WOULD THAT MOTION LOOK LIKE? IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, UM, THERE'S A, I NEED TO FIND IT EXACTLY.
I WAS READING THIS ON THE PLANE HERE.
UM, SO IT'S IN SECTION SIX, B SIX, B SIX.
SO, UH, EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING AND ENSURING THAT CITY RELATED BUSINESS EXPENSES INCURRED OR PLANNED TO BE INCURRED, DO NOT EXCEED THE APPROVED BUDGET, UH, FOR THE EXPENSE LINE ITEM, UH, A MONTHLY EXPENDITURE REPORT FOR COST CENTERS PERTAINING TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL BE PROVIDED TO EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO ASSIST, UH, IN THE MONITORING OF THE EXPENSE LINE ITEM, BUDGET STATUS, AND REMAINING AVAILABLE FUNDS.
AND THEN WE WOULD JUST ADD A LINE IF ONE ITEM IS EXCEEDED AND THERE IS CAPACITY WITHIN ANOTHER ITEM, UH, ACCEPT LEGAL.
I WOULD ACTUALLY WANNA SAY ACCEPT LEGAL, UH, THAT WE, UM, THAT FINANCE UNDERSTANDS AND WILL CONTINUE TO APPROVE SO LONG AS THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS NOT EXCEEDED FOR A FISCAL YEAR.
SO WHEN YOU SAY ACCEPT LEGAL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I ACTUALLY WANT TO TAKE LEGAL.
I WOULD, THIS ISN'T A BUDGET QUESTION, SO IT'S NOT, NOT IN HERE.
SO, UH, I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE HAVING EACH COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE IT, IT, IT MADE ME THINK OF YOUR QUESTION WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR BUDGETING AND I JUST HADN'T HAD TIME TO REALLY PROCESS IT.
I KNOW WHAT STAFF WAS THINKING WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO DO THAT.
THEY WERE TRYING TO BE MORE ACCURATE IN THEIR BOOKKEEPING.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT INDIVIDUALLY MONITORING A LEGAL BUDGET.
IT'S JUST A WAY THAT LEGAL IS SORT OF ASSIGNING THINGS, BUT, AND THEY CAN ASSIGN THAT IN A REPORT.
AND EVEN PAIGE SAID SHE DOESN'T ASSIGN IT TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL ANYWAY.
SO IT'S ALL GONNA GET WORKED OUT FROM A BUDGETING STANDPOINT.
BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT US TO THINK, OH, YOU KNOW, THAT PART OF OUR BUDGET HASN'T BEEN USED, SO WE CAN USE THAT FOR MILEAGE
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REIMBURSEMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE OUTLIER.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS SORT OF FUNGIBLE, I THINK, BUT, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE LEGAL, BUT WE DID THIS YEAR, WE DID, WE DID CREATE LEGAL COST CENTERS AND IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS ITEM FOR US TO CHANGE OUR BUDGET AND MOVE THAT LEGAL FUND OUT.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO EXCLUDE IT.
DID, DID YOU, DID I SAY A MOTION AND IT WAS SECONDED MM-HMM
SO THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD DO IT.
SO FOR, FOR THAT ITEM, IT SAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MODERATING AND ENSURING THAT THE CITY RELATED BUSINESS EXPENSES INCURRED OUR PLAN TO BE INCURRED, TO NOT EXCEED THE APPROVED BUDGET.
SO HOW DO WE, I MEAN, WE GOTTA JUST START, HOW DOES THAT LOOK? WHEN, HOW WILL WE KNOW? BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE, WAIT, HE'S HE GONNA SEND MONTHLY REPORTS TO US ALL? IS THAT WHAT IT IS PERFECT WITH ALL OF OUR NUMBERS ON THAT? YES.
AND WHERE, WHERE IS THAT AT? I DON'T HAVE A SAMPLE HERE.
BUT YOU HAVE A LINE ITEM, MONTHLY REPORT RIGHT.
OF WHAT YOU HAVE SPENT AND WHAT'S AVAILABLE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THIS POLICY AND ADD A LINE IN SECTION SIX B UH, TO CONSUMMATE THIS DISCUSSION AND TO ALLOW FOR, UH, DIFFERENT COST CENTERS TO BE, UH, FILLED UP SUCH SUCH THAT ONE COST CENTER MAY BE EXCEEDED SO LONG AS THE TOTAL, UM, UH, BUDGET IS NOT EXCEEDED FOR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER AND EXCLUDING LEGAL MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER PARSLEY? I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE BUDGETED, UM, AND A MAN FOR SUBSCRIPTIONS.
SO IF I DON'T USE MY SUBSCRIPTION AND I THINK THAT'S LIKE $5,000, CAN I ADD THAT TO, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE, I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO ADD THAT TO SOMETHING THAT I ACTUALLY UTILIZE CORRECT.
LIKE IF, AND THAT WAS WHAT MS. BURKE WAS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING.
LIKE IF I WANNA GO AND TAKE A CLASS OR TRAININGS AND I HAVE ALREADY EXCEEDED THAT AMOUNT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE TO EVERYONE? YES.
YEAH, CUSTOMER, THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE IS THAT IF YOU'RE NOT USING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LINE ITEMS, LIKE YOU SAID, SUBSCRIPTIONS OR WHATEVER, OR TRAINING, BUT YOU TRAVEL MORE, WHATEVER, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T GO OVER YOUR REQUIRED AMOUNT FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT TO WHERE YOU CAN BE ABLE TO BE FLUCTUATING.
CUZ AGAIN, PEOPLE SERVE IN DIFFERENT TERMS. SOME PEOPLE TRAVEL, SOME PEOPLE MAYBE TAKE ONLINE CLASSES.
SOME MAY, PEOPLE MAY WANT TO GO, YOU KNOW, TO A CONFERENCE.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW I DID LAST YEAR OR YEAR BEFORE WHERE I WENT TO THE CAPITAL AND UH, PAID DESCRIPTION ON THAT.
SO IT'S JUST MAYBE USING FLUCTUATING USING THAT MONEY FOR, FOR, OR THE FUNDS, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T GO OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND YOU HAVE THE ACCURATE, UH, RECEIPTS OR ANY KIND OF INVOICES THAT YOU HAVE THAT MAKE SURE IT MATCHES.
I THINK IT'D BE TO, TO WHERE THE CITIZENS CAN SEE WHERE, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION TO AMEND CUSTOMER PARSLEY? THAT'S ONE.
UM, I THINK IT'S A SMART THING TO DO.
I THINK EVERYBODY DOES COUNSEL IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND WE PUT PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, IN DIFFERENT SECTORS.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS? COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE KILL.
CAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS I WANNA TALK ABOUT.
UM, AND I, AND I THOUGHT OF ALL THESE QUESTIONS WITH FAIRNESS IN MIND.
SO EVEN THOUGH I'M SAD THAT I'M NOT GONNA GET A LOT OF THINGS, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL GONNA SACRIFICE.
UM, SO TO GET STARTED THE, DOES THIS, DOES THIS POLICY? I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT ADDRESSES UBER, LIKE UBERING.
IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY UBER, BUT IF IT'S RELATED TO TRAVEL, IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE EXPENSE.
UM, AND THEN ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THIS POLICY SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE DUTIES OF OUR CITY SECRETARY AND THAT, AND I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, UM, OKAY.
ANYWAYS, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
AND SO I'M THINKING, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO DO AN ONLINE SYSTEM? SO WE COULD LIKE FILL OUT FORMS AND UPLOAD RECEIPTS AND THEN THAT WAY THEY'RE SENT TO HER ELECTRONICALLY INSTEAD OF, I MEAN WE COULD HAND IN THE HARD COPIES AS WELL.
I USUALLY DO THAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS POLICY PUTS A LOT OF WORK ON STAFF IN GENERAL, BUT ESPECIALLY JENNIFER, I
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DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT IT.I KNOW
IT, IT DOES HAVE MORE PAPERWORK, MORE ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS.
NOW WHETHER IT GOES THROUGH CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE OR IT COMES DIRECTLY TO FINANCE, IT'LL BE ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK.
SO WE CAN, IF YOU, IF COUNCIL DESIRES, WE CAN FUNNEL IT DIRECTLY THROUGH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
I JUST THINK THAT'S, IT'S JUST A LOT.
AND, AND, AND EVEN IF WE COULD, JERRY, TRY TO FIND A WAY TO FILL OUT FORMS ONLINE.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE EXHIBITS IN THE BACK AND CAN, IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO MAKE THOSE ELECTRONIC.
AND SO THAT WAY IT'S ALL ALREADY COMPUTERIZED, UM, INCLUDING ANY KIND OF, UM, RECEIPTS THAT WE NEED TO HAND IN.
ALTHOUGH I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAND IN HARD COPIES AS WELL.
AND SO THEN GOING TO FIVE B AND I THINK THIS IS, THIS POPS UP A COUPLE TIMES, UM, ABOUT MAJORITY VOTE.
WELL QUESTION AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ON HERE IS WHO IS GONNA PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY WHAT I WAS GONNA BRING UP NEXT.
SO, UM, COUNCIL OR PARTIALLY GO AHEAD.
SO TO YOUR POINT, I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH WORK IF YOU HAVE ALL YOUR RECEIPTS ORGANIZED, UM, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE THAT'S NORMALLY WHAT I USE.
I WILL ORGANIZE THEM AND HIGHLIGHT AND PUT 'EM IN ORDER AND THE DESCRIPTION.
OF COURSE I, I'M NOT DOING THE JOB.
SO JENNIFER COULD TALK ABOUT THAT.
UM, NUMBER TWO, I BELIEVE THAT FIVE B AS I RECALL, IS THE CITY MANAGER THAT WILL BRING THAT ITEM.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WAS, THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL VERSION, THE ORIGINAL, WHICH WE DISCUSSED.
SO, SO ANY THOUGHTS, JENNIFER, ON HOW MUCH WORK WE ARE PUTTING ON YOU OR
I COME THROUGH THIS PRETTY THOROUGHLY AND SENT ALL OF MY, YOU KNOW, UM, CLARIFICATIONS OF DOES THIS MEAN THAT I WILL DO THIS KIND OF ITEMS TOEZ AND SO I HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT'S REQUIRED AND I, I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT EXTRA WORK, BUT I THINK OVERALL IT'S A LOT MORE ORGANIZED.
IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT REAL QUICK MANY, MANY MOONS AGO, I REMEMBER WORKING FOR A SOFTWARE COMPANY AND I USED TO SEE THE SALES GUYS COME IN AND THEY HAD TO TURN IN THEIR MONTHLY SALES RECEIPTS.
IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT AS YOU HAVE ON THE TRAVEL EXPENSE CLAIM FORM EVERY MONTH, WHEREVER THEY WENT, WHATEVER THEY BOUGHT, WHATEVER THEY ATE, THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID RECEIPT, NUMBER ONE, HERE IT IS.
HERE'S THE TOTAL MOUNTAIN SO FORTH.
AND IT WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THAT ALL TURNED IN WITH EVERYTHING ON THAT END.
SO THAT WAY I REMEMBER, I THINK HER NAME WAS KIM.
ALL SHE WOULD DO IS JUST LOOK AT THE FORM, JUST MATCH THE RECEIPTS AND THE TOTAL AND IT WAS DONE.
BUT I THINK THERE WAS A LOT ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EXECUTIVE SALES GUYS TO HAVE THAT FORM THAT IT WAS DUE.
I THINK EVER, I THINK IT WAS EVERY EITHER EVERY MONTH AND THEY WOULD DO AN AUDIT EVERY THREE MONTHS, EVERY QUARTER TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THEIR NUMBERS WERE MATCHED UP ACCORDINGLY.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON OUR END, CUZ YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF WORK ON OR YEAH, WE, WE DON'T WANNA BE JUST NICKLING DIAMOND.
HERE'S A RECEIPT FOR THIS HERE'S RECEIPT FOR THAT.
MAYBE MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT TO WHERE IT'S IT'S DUE AT A CERTAIN TIME.
AND IT IS UP TO US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LIST EVERY LINE ITEM, WHAT WE DID, WHETHER IT'S FOOD, WHETHER IT'S TRAVEL AND THEN CONNECT ALL THE RECEIPTS AND ADD 'EM UP.
AND THEN THE BALANCE SHOULD BE CORRECT.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT'S HOW THIS POLICY IS WRITTEN.
THE OWNERSHIP AND RESPONSIBILITY IS ON INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WHEN YOU TRAVEL AT THE END OF YOUR TRAVEL, YOU HAVE SO MANY DATES.
YOU COMPLETE THE FORM, YOU COMPLETE THE INFORMATION AND THEN YOU SUBMIT MM-HMM
SO IT'S NOT LIKE JUST HANDING RECEIPTS TO THE CITY SECRETARY AND LET HER FIGURE IT OUT.
THE RESPONSIBILITY UNDER THIS POLICY IS ON INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO TO, TO THAT, UH, A COUPLE THINGS, UM, FIRST IS THE, UH, TRAVEL EXPENSE POLICY.
UM, THERE IS A, A, A LINE IN THERE THAT SAYS IF YOU TRAVEL, THEN THE CITY SECRETARY SHALL PUTS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
CAN YOU POINT ME TO WHERE THAT IS? PERVEZ? I'M SORRY.
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I BELIEVE AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE PREVIOUS DIRECTION OF COUNCIL THAT WE WANT.WHENEVER WE'RE DOING CERTAIN TYPES OF TRAVELING, WE WANT THERE TO BE A REPORT GIVEN TO THE DIAS, WHICH I I'M, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DO, BUT I'M THAT'S UNDER SECTION EIGHT MAYOR, RIGHT? SO IT'S UPON RECEIPT OF THE TRAVEL EXPENSE CLAIM FORM.
THE CITY SECRETARY SHALL IMMEDIATELY PLACE, UH, ON THE AGENDA OF THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING AN ITEM FOR THE MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING.
UM, AND I, I DON'T, I JUST IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
DIDN'T I, I DIDN'T REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT IT WAS THE CITY SECRETARY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BE PLACING ITEMS LIKE THAT ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE COMPLIANT IF WE'RE WE CONTROL THE AGENDA BY THE CHARTER.
AND SO IT SHOULD BE US THAT MAKES THAT REQUEST PER THE COUNCIL POLICY.
WHAT ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL? LIKE I, WELL, SO THE, SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT, THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF TRAVELING AND IT'S LIKE SOME OF, SOMETIMES IT REQUIRES, UH, DRIVING.
SOMETIMES IT REQUIRES A HOTEL.
SOMETIMES IT REQUIRES A FLIGHT.
SOMETIMES IT IS, UH, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES OR IT'S PART OF INNER CITY TRIPS WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
AND THE MAIN REASON FOR US WANTING TO DO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA IS WHEN WE, AS A COUNCIL ARE TRYING TO GO OUT AND LEARN INFORMATION, SOMETHING LIKE FROM THIS BODY GOING OUT LIKE, UH, UH, EDMOND, OKLAHOMA, OR, UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK WE HAVEN'T DONE GREEN, UH, GREENSBORO OR GREEN.
UH, WHERE WAS IT? PETREE CITY, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS ARE THERE ARE COUNCIL EXCURSIONS.
UH, THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, HAVE SANCTIONED BY THE COUNCIL AND HAVE REPORTS BROUGHT BACK ON.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF ONE OF US TRAVELS TO TML OR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES OR A PLANNING CONFERENCE, THERE WAS NEVER IN THE SCOPE OF COUNCIL DIRECTION TO REQUIRE THAT AN ITEM BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA TO GIVE A SUMMARY OF A COUNCIL, MEMBER'S TRAVEL TO A CONFERENCE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO THIS, UH, WOULD THE WAY I'M READING IT WOULD WOULD JUST ANYTIME YOU'D TRAVEL.
AND THEN WHAT IF YOU GO TO, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WHAT IF YOU DRIVE TO AUSTIN, THIS POLICY SAYS, I GUESS YOU GOTTA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, 75 MILES MAYBE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO AUSTIN PROBABLY WOULDN'T COUNT, BUT, UM, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO, I, I, I LOVE THE TRAVEL EXPENSE POLICY SIDE OF IT.
I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, UNLESS WE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SAYING COMPELLED THAT AN ITEM GETS PLACED ON THE AGENDA EVERY SINGLE TIME A COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVELS ANYWHERE.
THAT WAS NOT THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN INITIALLY IT WAS IT'S, IT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE FOR THINGS LIKE CONFERENCES AND YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
BUT IT WOULD BE LIKE IF, IF WE WENT TO DC TO, UH, MEET WITH AIKEN GUMP OR DELEGATIONS, SOME SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE YES.
BUT IF WE WENT TO THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE, THAT WOULD BE NO, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GO AND YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GET A MAJORITY VOTER COUNCIL TO GO, THAT'S YOUR DISCRETION TO GO AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT YOU KNOW, SO, SO HOW DO WE REWORD THAT THEN? HOW, HOW DO WE WANT THAT TO LOOK IF A CUZ WE'RE SAYING, YES, WE DO.
TO AN EXTENT, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING PUT ON THE AGENDA.
UM, BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU'RE SAYING LIKE TRAINING OR SEMINARS OR MEETINGS, BUT LIKE IF WE GO TO WASHINGTON DC RIGHT NOW, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE JENNIFER WHO DECIDES, OKAY.
SO HERE'S MY CONCERN WITH THAT.
FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE FELL INTO IS WHAT IF I JUST DON'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA? I DON'T SEE CONSEQUENCES WRITTEN IN THIS PROCEDURE.
IF I DON'T DO THAT, I DON'T DO THAT.
AND THEN WHAT, SO IF YOU WANNA BUILD IN A CONSEQUENCE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THROUGHOUT, BECAUSE THESE ARE A LOT OF PROCEDURES THAT ARE GREAT, BUT THERE'S NO REPERCUSSIONS OR ACCOUNTABILITY IF WE DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.
THAT'S THE ONE THING I'VE NOTICED THROUGHOUT THE, THE WHOLE POLICY.
SO, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP, I'M SO SORRY.
UM, BUT IF WE ARE HAVING A BUDGET TO DO TRAVELING OR TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, COURSES OR TO DO TRAINING, THEN WOULD WE STILL NEED TO BRING IT UP FRONT? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT? LIKE IF WE DON'T BRING AN ITEM AFTER DOING A TRAINING, THEN IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT THAT'S RIGHT NOW SAYS THAT IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AND THEN, AND THEN MAYOR MITCHELL WAS LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO DO ALL OF IT.
JUST LIKE IF WE DO CERTAIN THINGS AND I WAS LIKE, NO, I AGREE.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ALL OF IT.
BUT MY CONCERN IS IF WE PUT IT ON THERE OURSELVES, IF, IF THIS POLICY
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SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THAT, BUT THE COUNCIL MEMBER DOESN'T DO IT.THERE'S NO REPERCUSSIONS FOR NOT BRINGING THAT.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE POLICY, NOTHING HAPPENS.
SO I HEAR, I HEAR YOUR CONCERN, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE A JUDGE OF OUR OWN MEMBERS.
I THINK, I THINK RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN, IN, IN A CREDIT CARD POLICY, WE SHOULD JUST BE FOCUSED MORE ON HOLDING EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.
AND HONESTLY, I THINK IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE IF I WENT ON A TRIP AND I DIDN'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
AND YOU SAID ASHLEY BRADSHAW WENT TO A WHEREVER FOR WHATEVER TO GET UPDATES OR, YOU KNOW, HEAR INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRIP.
I THINK THAT THAT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE AND I THINK IT'S A MORE APPROPRIATE WAY TO APPROACH IT THAN TO PUT IT IN THE CREDIT CARD POLICY.
IT JUST SEEMS MISPLACED HERE IN MY OPINION.
SO HOW WOULD WE KNOW WHEN PEOPLE GO ON TRIPS THEN? SO MAYBE THAT'S THE ISSUES LIKE MAYBE WE MAKE EACH OTHER AWARE AND THEN THAT WAY, IF YOU DON'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN WE CAN HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.
BUT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WELL, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD GO ON.
WE'RE GONNA GET THOSE MONTHLY REPORTS.
SO WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.
WE CAN SEE, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU GO.
IT'S MONTHLY REPORTS AND IT ALL BASED ON THE ACTION THAT WE TOOK HOWEVER LONG AGO, IT'S BEEN, ALL OF OUR EXPENSES ARE POSTED ON THE COUNCIL WEBSITE.
SO YOU THERE'S NO HIDING WHAT YOU DO, WHAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW WHAT, SO, SHOULD WE REMOVE THAT ALTOGETHER? I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE, THE, THE PART ABOUT REQUIRING ITEMS TO COME BEFORE, UH, ON THE AGENDA OUT OF THIS POLICY.
WE THERE'S ALREADY DIRECTION AND, UH, POLICY IN PLACE FOR IF WE DO EXCURSIONS, UM, FOR THAT TO COME BACK AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS, BUT I MEAN, A, A GREAT EXAMPLE IS TMLS COMING UP.
I KNOW AT LEAST A FEW OF US ARE PLANNING TO GO.
I DO NOT THINK IT'S, IT IS OUR INTENTION OR SHOULD BE OUR INTENTION TO REQUIRE AN ITEM BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR IT.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO, UM, TO, UH, REMOVE SECTION EIGHT, UH, STARTING AT, UH, HALFWAY DOWN THE WORD UPON THE REMAINDER OF THAT SECTION, INCLUDING A AND B, BUT BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLORES.
KALE IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER TOBIAS JUST REAL QUICK.
AND IT I'LL BE VERY BRIEF WHEN I USED TO BRING THIS FORWARD ABOUT WANTING TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE TRAVELED.
IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS TASK FORCE THAT WERE INVOLVED AND THERE WAS A LOT OF AC, UM, INFORMATION THAT CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS OR SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, COULD HAVE SHARED THAT WOULD'VE BENEFITED.
AND I THINK IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF THAT FOR ME, IS LIKE, IF YOU'RE GONNA TRAVEL, AT LEAST SHARE IT WITH US, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, IF YOU WENT TO PEACHTREE LIKE WE DID, OR IF YOU WENT TO WASHINGTON, WHATEVER, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.
BUT I THINK WHAT IT, MY WHOLE POINT WAS IF A COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVELED ON THEIR OWN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, I PUT ON AGENDA.
I WENT TO THIS CONFERENCE, THIS IS WHAT I LEARNED.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN SAN FRANCISCO.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN HOUSTON.
I THINK IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF SHOWING THAT KIND OF LITTLE SMALL, UH, RESPECT ON THAT END TO SAY, HEY, I AM TRAVELING ON THE CITY.
UH, BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M BRINGING BACK TO THE TABLE.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I HAD ORIGINALLY WANTED FROM THE BEGINNING IS SHARING THOSE STORIES, SHARING THOSE EXPERIENCES.
UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT, IT ALL, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT WE MISS.
UH, COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW SAYS WE HELD ALL EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE THE WAY WE DO, AND IT'S UP TO US TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT FORWARD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION TO AMEND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UH, ANY OTHER ITEMS, CUSTOMER FLO SCALE.
UM, GOING BACK TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND CONSEQUENCES, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE BUILT IN HERE.
UM, BUT ON, UH, G LET'S SEE, SECTION SIX G UM, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING BACK TO THE CITY FOR ALL UN ALLOWED EXPENSES AND FOR ALL UNSORTED TRANSACTIONS CHARGED TO THE CITY ISSUED CREDIT CARD.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TIME ON THAT.
IS THERE A TIME LIMIT, LIKE, UH, IF WE COULD DO 30 DAYS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA PAY BACK WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME OR CAN IT BE DISCOUNTED OF THE MONTHLY? THE TIMEFRAME IS SPELLED OUT IN SECTION NINE, NINE.
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THOUGHT, WOW, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD DO THIS ELECTRONICALLY.CAUSE I WAS READING IT AND IT'S A LOT LIKE IT'S A LOT OF STEPS.
UM, AND I'M GONNA, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS CUZ IT, I DON'T KNOW IF ENFORCEMENT IN THIS, IN THIS SECTION IS DONE BY THE CITY SECRETARY.
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON THE ENFORCEMENT YOU HAVE IN MIND.
UH, BECAUSE IN THE POLICY, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER DOES NOT COMPLY, WE TURN OFF THEIR CREDIT CARD.
WE DO NOT REIMBURSE ANY EXPENSES.
I, I WAS GONNA SAY, I THOUGHT THIS IS LIKE GOT THE MOST TEETH I'VE EVER SEEN BECAUSE OF THAT.
THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER TO JUST STOP AND IF THEY DON'T PAY BACK, THEN WE DEDUCT FROM YOUR NEXT PAYCHECK.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT SAID THE NEXT PAYCHECK.
SO THAT REMIND, UH, 13 D WHAT IS IT D THE DEDUCTION FROM PAYCHECK? YES, THAT IS UNDER SECTION NINE C SUB NUMBER EIGHT.
UM, SO I, I'M GOING TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAILS BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SECTION, I THINK IT'S GOING BACK TO SEVEN, UM, AND IT STATES THAT THINGS, IS IT THAT THE NON ALLOWABLE STUFF, UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS IN HERE THAT, THAT I USE AS FAR AS A PRINTER, AN INK.
UM, AND SO I'M NOT SURE HOW, WHAT SHOULD I JUST PAY? LIKE IF THIS IS, GOES INTO ENFORCEMENT, DO I PAY FOR THIS MYSELF? YEAH.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO TAKE THAT OUT.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M A AMENABLE TO TAKING THAT OUT.
I'VE GOT ONE I WANT TO TAKE OUT AS WELL THAT I, I U A BUSINESS EXPENSE THAT ABSOLUTELY I USE, BUT OFFICE SUPPLIES HAS BEEN REMOVED THERE'S NO.
AND SO IT'S 12 SECTION 12, NUMBER SEVEN.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT FELL INTO THAT BECAUSE IT ALSO, I THINK LET'S SEE DESKTOP 12, SEVEN IS STRICTLY HARDWARE, WELL, AND SOFTWARE, RIGHT? YES.
SOFTWARE, BUT NOT OFFICE SUPPLIES.
UM, AND THEN I HAD KIND OF, UH, SO 12 SECTION 12, NUMBER 10.
UM, I UNDERSTAND DONATIONS, BUT WHEN IT SAYS ORGANIZATIONS, I'M GONNA BE HONEST.
SOMETIMES WHEN I GO TO LIKE HOA GATHERINGS AND THEY ASK FOR DONATIONS, OR LIKE THEY ASK FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, CAN YOU BRING SOMETHING FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT? I MEAN, I'M WALKING A FINE LINE.
AREN'T I
CITY FUNDS, BUT SHE CAN ALLOW, I MEAN, THAT MAKES ME SAD CUZ IT'S LITERALLY THEIR MONEY.
BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BRING AS AN ITEM IF YOU WANNA DONATE OR SOMETHING? NO, HE'S SAYING WE CAN'T PUT ON THE CARD, LIKE NO, BUT BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR US TO VOTE ON DONATING SOMETHING.
WELL, WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE VISION WORKSHOP.
SO THAT'S KIND OF TIPTOEING THAT LINE MM-HMM
CUZ I, I WAS THINKING ABOUT, UH, AT, UH, A FEW YEARS BACK AT FUENTES, THEY WERE HAVING A FUNDRAISER.
UM, AND, OR I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT I, I ENDED UP, UM, BRINGING, BUYING BREAKFAST TACOS AND HANDING THEM OUT AND I PAID FOR IT WITH MY OWN MONEY.
BUT I THOUGHT AT THE TIME THAT, AND I WAS, IT HAD TO DO WITH THE ROAD, UH, UH, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS MINO WAS BEING REDONE AND THERE WAS THIS CONSTRUCTION, IT WAS THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL AND EVERYBODY WAS KIND OF LIKE REALLY STRUGGLING.
AND SO WE SHOWED UP WITH CITY PEOPLE.
I, THERE WERE CITY PEOPLE THERE THAT HELPED AND I JUST BROUGHT TACOS AND I WAS JUST THINKING TO MYSELF, YOU KNOW, I COULD HAVE USED THE CITY CARD FOR THAT.
BUT THE THING IS LIKE, IF IT'S JUST AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS POLICY AND THE FACT THAT WE USE COST CENTERS, WHICH IS, I THINK GONNA BE A, A NEW WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THIS, BUT IT JUST, IT'S NOT AN UNLIMITED, YOU HAVE A BUDGET, YOU GOTTA FOLLOW WHAT'S WITHIN YOUR BUDGET.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER ON CHARITABLE CUZ THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT SEE THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU USED, YOU'RE PROVIDING A MEAL OR COFFEE TO CITY EMPLOYEES WORKING ON SATURDAY OR NO, IT WAS, WE WERE HANDING IT OUT TO, UM, UH, PARENTS AND KIDS.
IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE A BAG OF STUFF.
SO I'M MORE LIKE CITY ATTORNEY ADDRESS THAT PART DONATIONS WITH CITY.
I, I THINK THE PAGE SIGN CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD, I THINK POTENTIALLY
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THE DANGER AND IT WOULD BE HARD TO PROBABLY JUST DRAW THE LINE IN A REAL CONSISTENT WAY IS WHEN YOU GET INTO AN AREA OF GIFT GIFT FOR, UH, PUBLIC FUNDS.AND WHEN THAT PROCESS COMES TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL REVIEWS IT AND MAKES A, A, A GRANT OF FUNDS THAT PUTS SOME STRUCTURE AROUND IT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING A PUBLIC PURPOSE BACK, CUZ THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT FOR DONATING THE FUNDS IS YOU, IT SERVES A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
AND, AND THEN I THINK THE LIKE EVEN GOING EVEN FARTHER FROM THAT IS IT'S AT WHAT POINT DOES A DONATION START TO LOOK LIKE POTENTIALLY LIKE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT? SO EVERYONE'S HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE ON IT.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS THE INTENTION OF GOING THERE, BUT WHEN, WHEN IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO REVIEW, THEN IT GETS DOWN THE ROAD OF, IS IT A GIFT OR IS IT SOMETHING ELSE OR DOES IT LOOK LIKE SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS GOING TO BECOME AN ISSUE FOR THE COUNCIL? OKAY.
UM, SO WHAT ABOUT IF WE DECIDE WE WANNA BE IN THE HALLOWEEN, THE CITY HALLOWEEN, CAN WE BUY CANDY ON THE CARD FOR THAT EVENT OR IS THAT CONSIDERED A DONATION OR I, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I DON'T MIND SPENDING MY OWN FUNDS, BUT WHEN YOU GOT LIKE A THOUSAND KIDS TRICK OR TREATING, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO, SO TO THAT I SAY A, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA USE THEIR BUDGET FOR ME.
I, I THINK THAT'S THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR.
AND TWO, IF I WANNA DO IT ON MY OWN, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO DEPEND ON THEM TO PICK OUT WHAT CANDY I'M GONNA GIVE AND WHATNOT.
SO ALTHOUGH I AGREE, I, I TRY TO BE AS ACTIVE AS I CAN IN THE EVENTS.
AND SO IT'S KIND OF NICE WHEN I CAN, UH, JUST KINDA HAVE MY OWN STANDALONE TENT OR, YOU KNOW, A CITY COUNCIL TENT, AND THEN WE CAN HAND OUT CANDY AND SEE TO ME THAT WOULD NOT BE A DONATION YOU'RE YOU'RE GIVING OUT TO GENERAL PUBLIC.
IT'S NOT TO A SPECIFIC ORGANIZATION OR INDIVIDUAL OR HOA
LIKE IT'S NICE WHEN WE CAN GO TO THESE NATIONAL NINE OUTS AND IN A WAY GIVE BACK TO THOSE COMMUNITIES BY WAY OF, I DON'T KNOW, SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO, UM, IF I, IF WE GO TO FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT HOAS, UM, AND I GIVE $20 OR $30 OR, YOU KNOW, IT, IF I MAY INTERACT, IT WOULD BE LIKE IF I WENT TO PAW AND I USED A CREDIT CARD FOR THEIR FUNDRAISER, PAUSE, DOESN'T PAY TAXES, BUT OUR RESIDENTS DO.
BUT SO THIS MONEY THAT I'M, THAT I HAVE I'M GIVING BACK TO THEM, BUT IT'S YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
BUT NOT EVERYBODY WOULD LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
I UNDERSTAND IT GIVES BACK TO THE RESIDENTS, BUT THERE'S RESIDENTS THAT SAY, WHY ARE YOU, WHY WOULD YOU SPEND MY MONEY THAT WAY? RIGHT? OR YOU COULD GO, YOU COULD SAY THE, OR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION OR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THESE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT INTERACT WITH US POLITICALLY.
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE IS SOME LINE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH.
YOU KNOW? AND I THINK A LOT OF TIMES I, I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE WITH MY FAMILY AND I, WE, WE, WE SPONSOR EVENTS.
WE ALSO, UH, GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S THROUGH OUR OWN FUNDS THAT WE DO ON THAT END.
AND I GET IT THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, SPECIFICALLY CERTAIN PEOPLES ARE NON-PROFIT THEY PAY TAXES, THEY DON'T PAY TAXES.
BUT IF I WENT TO THE VFW AND JUST USED MY CREDIT CARD TO PAY FOR A CHARITY EVENT OR HELP PAY FOR DONUTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD THAT BE KIND OF CROSSING THE LINE A LITTLE BIT? NO, I UNDERSTAND.
AND IF, IF I WAS, AND THEN THEY'RE COMING TO US FOR, UM, NOT ONLY SPONSORED EVENTS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO COMING TO US FOR OTHER RELATED CITY MATTERS.
HOW WOULD THAT LOOK IN THAT SENSE? IF, IF THE VFW CAME TO US OR THE AMBITS AND THEY CAME TO US AND SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS AND WE USE THE CR OUR SWIPE, OUR CREDIT CARD FOR WHATEVER IT IS VERSUS USING OUR OWN FUNDS ON THAT.
IT JUST, THE PERCEPTION IS LIKE, I ALWAYS SAY WE GOTTA BE VERY CAREFUL.
NO, I AGREE IF, IF I WAS JUST GOING TO LIKE ONE OR TWO EVENTS A YEAR, I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S DRAINING FINANCIALLY TO, TO WANNA BE THERE.
AND TO WANNA FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GIVING SOMETHING BACK, YOU'RE TALKING LIKE TWO OR THREE EVENTS, YOU KNOW, A MONTH OR SO, UH, IN LARGE QUANTITIES, ESPECIALLY AROUND, UH, THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS OR WHATEVER EVENTS THE CITY HAS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA USE OTHER DEPARTMENTS MONEY JUST BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M COMFORTABLE.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S HARDER ON THEM THAN, THAN IT IS JUST TO USE OUR CARD.
UM, SO NO DONATIONS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, RIGHT.
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I'VE GOT ONE.UM, SO I ACTUALLY, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO THAT ARE IN HERE AND I'M GONNA FIRST CUZ I'M STILL NOT EXACTLY CLEAR.
SO I'LL JUST ASK PERVEZ WHAT YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THIS IS THE TATTOOS.
SO WHAT'S THAT THE TATTOOS, THE TATTOOS
THAT WAS MY COMPLAINT ACTUALLY.
SO I COULD GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE WITH YOU IF YOU WANTED.
UM, IF I WAS GOING TO SUBSCRIBE TO THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMEN, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING I WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO? YES.
IT SPECIFIES FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES IN THAT THAT'S OKAY.
SO THEN I DON'T LIKE AUSTIN BUSINESS JOURNAL, CORRECT? WALL STREET, AUSTIN, AMERICAN STATESMEN.
THOSE ARE ALL, UH, ACCEPTABLE EXPENSES.
UM, SO THEN THE ONLY ONE THAT I HAVE LEFT, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AMENDED WOULD BE DRY CLEANING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT, BUT I, I, IT'S NOT IN HERE, SIR.
IT'S NOT, NO, I, I JUST ASSUMED IT.
WASN'T
YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO SAY THAT.
DON'T PUT IT IN SO WE CAN GET OUR CLOTHES DRY CLEANED.
IF THE CLOTHES THAT YOU USED FOR, FOR BUSINESS THEN IS, WOULD BE THE CASE.
AFTER THE LAST DISCUSSION COUNCIL HAD ON, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS THAT Y'ALL HAD TO WEAR SPECIAL CLOTHING SUITS.
SO AFTER THAT DISCUSSION, THEY REMOVED THE DRY CLEANING IT.
CAN I, CAN I PAY MY WATER BILL SINCE I WASHED MY CLOTHES HOME?
I'M DONE VERY WELL DONE FOR US.
IT WAS, ARE YOU GONNA BRING BACK THE, THE, BEFORE WE APPROVE, BRING BACK THE AMENDMENT ON SECOND READING.
ANY, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE YOU WANNA ADD NOW? NO.
ALL I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.
SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THAT VOTE MOTION ALSO FAIR.
[40. Discussion regarding location, dates, times, activities for 2023 Council Visioning Workshop. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]
YOU.I NUMBER 40 DISCUSSION REGARDING LOCATION STATES TIMES ACTIVITIES FOR THE 2023 COUNCIL VISIONING WORKSHOP.
UH, I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD THAT WE'RE STARTING THIS DISCUSSION IN SEPTEMBER, CUZ THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE, IT'S KIND OF GOTTEN RUSHED THERE AT THE END.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
MAYOR COUNCIL, KERRY HENDRICKS CENTER, CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, AS FAR AS PLACES READY, AS FAR AS PLACES, UH, AMBER AND I SAT DOWN AND KIND OF BATTED A FEW THINGS AROUND.
WE CAME UP WITH THREE POSSIBILITIES.
ONE IS THE CITY OF KATY IN THE HOUSTON AREA.
THEY HAVE, UM, THEY'RE FAST GROWTH CITY.
THEY HAVE SOME OLD AREAS THEY'RE DEALING WITH.
THEY HAVE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT INCORPORATES PARKING GARAGES AND, AND WRAPPING STUFF AROUND IT.
THEY HAVE, UM, I THINK A LOT OF THINGS WE'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE.
SO THAT WAS, UH, ONE POSSIBILITY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ANOTHER POSSIBILITY WE HAVEN'T BEEN THERE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU MIGHT WANNA SEE IS AVAILABLE THERE.
AND THERE WOULD BE LOTS OF OPTIONS.
AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION, IF YOU JUST WANNA DISCLUDE YOURSELF SOMEWHERE IN A NICE PLACE, KIND OF OUT IN THE NATURE, WE THOUGHT THE H REGENCY LOST PINES RESORT AND SPA WOULD BE A GOOD OPTION.
BUT THERE'S TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S NOTHING THERE TO EXPLORE NO CONCEPTS OR ANYTHING.
TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE MORE IF YOU JUST WANTED TIME TOGETHER AS A GROUP.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS WE'VE COME UP WITH CERTAINLY, UH, OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS.
WELL, AND AS WE'RE DISCUSSING, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANT US TO CONSIDER IS ADDING A DAY BECAUSE THE, THE, IT FEELS LIKE THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE OF HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, UH, HAS BEEN GOOD, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY GET THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DISCUSS AND GET THROUGH.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT'S A, A LOT AND I'M SURE NOBODY IT'S WORK.
PEOPLE THINK IT'S NOT, IT'S LIKE STRAIGHT UP WORK WHILE YOU'RE THERE THE WHOLE TIME, BUT, UH, ADDING AN EXTRA DAY, I THINK MAKES SENSE.
UM, SO IT WOULD BE HOW IS HOW IT'S BEEN.
CAN WE, THURSDAY, YOU'D HAVE TO LEAVE THURSDAY.
YOU'D HAVE TO BASICALLY MISS ONE DAY AND IT'D BE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND THEN COME BACK SUNDAY IN THE PAST.
WE'VE UH, GATHERED FRIDAY NIGHT.
SATURDAY MORNING HAD SOME TEAM BUILDING CONCLUDED HALF A DAY ON SUNDAY.
SO I WOULD THINK, I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE US CONSIDER, DO STARTING THURSDAY NIGHT AND THEN DO FULL DAY FRIDAY, FULL DAY, SATURDAY, UH, HALF DAY, SUNDAY, UH, COUNSELOR PARSLEY.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE, THERE IS A THREE DAY WEEKEND THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO JUST BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE, A TO FIVE JOBS TO JUST REQUEST THAT DAY OFF.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER SECOND.
UM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO BRING UP DIFFERENT PLACES? CAUSE
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THERE MIGHT BE A DISCUSSION THAT MIGHT TAKE PLACE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN CONSIDER SOMETHING SOME DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.UM, DO YOU WANNA GO INTO EXEC TO DISCUSS THAT? YES.
AND THEN MY LAST THING WOULD BE, OH MY GOD, I JUST LOST IT.
WELL, YES, BECAUSE IF WE WANTED TO DO A TEAM BUILDING ACTIVITY, I, I WOULD LIKE IF WE TAKE ONE DAY TO REALLY DIG INTO COUNSEL ISSUES AND UH, COACHING AND TEAM BUILDING REAL ACTIVITIES, SO WE CAN COME THE NEXT DAY AND DO HAVE THE REAL DISCUSSION.
I DON'T KNOW IF ONE DAY IS GONNA BE ENOUGH FOR THAT.
SO I, THAT'S KINDA MY THINKING THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY TO COME BACK ON A SUNDAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL BE TOO MUCH, BUT THAT'S A LOT.
I, UM, THE TWO, THE FIRST TWO KATIE IN SAN ANTONIO, I, I, I CAN KIND OF GET IT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE, THE PROGRESS THAT'S MADE IN KATIE.
UH, SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON THAT WE CAN MAYBE RELATE TO SAN ANTONIO AS FAR AS ACTIVITIES TO DO, UM, IS, IS ONE THING TO WHERE IF WE DECIDED TO DO TEAM BUILDING, UH, BUT THE LOST PINES IN BASS DROP IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I JUST, YOU JUST KIND OF CLICKED ON.
WHEN WE WENT TO FREDERICKSBURG, REMEMBER WE WENT THERE, TRACY, AND IT WAS JUST SATURDAY, NOTHING BUT JUST WORK, WORK AND GOT IDEAS.
WE JUST STAYED THERE ALL DAY UNTIL WE WENT TO THE
I MEAN, WE DIDN'T HAVE A TEAM BUILDING THAT DAY.
AND I THINK THE LAST COUPLE TIMES, UM, WE GOT CAUGHT UP WAS SO MUCH OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FELT, MAYOR.
I FELT RUSHED THAT WE HAD TO GET ALL THIS STUFF DONE AND WE STILL HAD TO HAVE MEALS.
AND, AND I THINK IF WE JUST REALLY FOCUS TO WHERE IT'S AN EIGHT O'CLOCK SATURDAY MORNING, YOU KNOW, MEALS ALREADY THERE, AND WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THE WORK AND THEN BREAK AT NOON AND THEN HAVE THAT HOUR OR SO BREAK AWAY FROM EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, CUZ WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GET OVER CRYING OR WHATEVER IT IS OR OH, OKAY.
YOU KNOW, TRAVIS DOESN'T LISTEN TO ME, BUT YOU KNOW, OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS OR GOD DING IT, MIKE, YOU KNOW, MIKE TO BE, COME ON MIKE.
BUT IT, IT BRING, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO COME BACK LATER ON THAT AFTERNOON AND REALLY GET THOSE GOALS BECAUSE I THINK ON SUNDAY WE ALWAYS TEND TO LIKE TRY TO RUSH THROUGH IT.
CUZ WE'VE GOTTA GET BACK HOME.
SO I THINK IF WE DO DO THAT TO WHERE, IF WE ARRIVE THERE FRIDAY, WE CAN HAVE THAT AFTERNOON TO BOND OR GO SEE WHATEVER OR HAVE A DINNER.
I THINK HAVING DINNERS REALLY HELPS BECAUSE WE CAN BE ABLE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BE AT A CERTAIN SPOT.
WE CAN HAVE THE DINNERS AND JUST REGROUP AND HAVE THAT MEAL AND THEN GET READY FOR THE NEXT DAY AND THEN JUST HIT IT BECAUSE IN FREDERICKSBURG, I, IT WAS MY FIRST TIME.
I WAS LIKE BARELY A COUPLE DAYS IN THE COUNCIL AND I LEARNED A LOT AND I GOT TO HEAR SO MANY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
AND I THINK THAT REALLY HELPED BECAUSE, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP TO TRAVIS BECAUSE LESS THAN A MONTH LATER IS WHEN COVID HIT.
AND WE, WHEN WE LEFT, WHEN WE LEFT FREDERICKSBURG, WE WERE UNITED.
WE WERE, WE SAW EACH OTHER'S DIFFERENT GOALS.
I SAW SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE GET REFOCUSED.
AND THEN WHEN COVID HIT, WE CAME TOGETHER LIKE A TEAM THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH A LOT OF THAT STUFF.
SO I HOPE WE CAN BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING.
BUT I THINK IF WE FOCUS ON A SPOT TO WHERE, IF IT'S ON A SATURDAY, WE JUST FOCUS, JUST DO NOTHING BUT WORK AND VISION.
WE CAN GET A LOT OF THINGS ACCOMPLISHED TO WHERE SUNDAY, WHEN WE COME IN THE NEXT DAY, BEFORE WE LEAVE, WE ALREADY HAVE ALL OUR GOALS AND OUR IDEAS READY TO GO CUSTOMER FOR SCALE.
CAN, CAN WE MAYBE MAKE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WANNA OUR CITY TO LIKE, LIKE FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO GO SOMEWHERE THAT HAS A NICE TRANSPORTATION, MAYBE A BUS SYSTEM OR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LIKE LEARN AND UTILIZE IS, IS TO INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHETHER SOME PLACE HAS A REALLY GREAT WASTE WATER OR ROADS.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO, UM, THE VISION WORKSHOP AS WELL.
WELL, I WILL SAY I, I WILL SAY WITHOUT GOING TOO MUCH INTO DETAIL, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO.
I WOULD, I WAS THINKING THAT, UH, WE MIGHT GO SOMEPLACE THAT HAS EXPERIENCED SOME SUCCESS BUILDING COMMUNITY CENTER.
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SO AS A, AS A SORT OF A FOCAL POINT, HOW DID, HOW DO THEY DO THAT AND SPEND A LITTLE TIME REALLY GETTING TO KNOW THAT ASPECT OF IT.AND I DON'T WANNA GO INTO ANY MORE DETAIL, BUT OKAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT THAT NAILED DOWN JUST YET.
OR YOU'RE CHOOSING A DATE ALREADY OR NO, THAT'S WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT DATE YET.
I, I THINK FEBRUARY WORKS REALLY WELL TO GET THOSE PRIORITIES AND VISIONS KIND OF INCORPORATED AND, AND READY FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT BEGINS IN MARCH.
SO THERE'S PRESIDENT'S DAY, THE FIRST WEEKEND OF FEBRUARY, CUZ I KNOW THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND AGAIN, IT'S SUPER BOWLS AND DON'T DO IT ON VALENTINE'S NO, I LEARNED THAT LESSON NO WEEKEND AND IT WAS SUPER BOWL.
SO
AND WE DO HAVE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE SIXTH OR I'M SORRY, THE SEVENTH.
NO, I THOUGHT WE SAID WE WEREN'T GONNA DO THAT AGAIN.
THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT AND WE CAME BACK AND WE HAD, WE SAID, WE WEREN GONNA DO, CAN WE CAN MOVE THE COUNCIL MEETING
TO THE 14TH WE HAVE THE VALENTINE'S DAY.
WE DID NO WAY OR WE CAN MOVE IT TO, WE THERE'S.
CAN WE DO IT ON THE, IS THE 20TH TOO FAR OUT? I MEAN THE, I MEAN PRESIDENT'S DAY IS THAT MONDAY? WHAT? MONDAY? THE, THE FEBRUARY 20TH.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY SEES THAT AS A HOLIDAY.
WELL, I WOULD JUST ASSUME WHAT WOULD BE ON THE SEVENTH AGENDA IF THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD, UM, GET DONE BEFOREHAND IN JANUARY TO WHERE WE COULD KEEP THAT SEVENTH, UM, LIGHT OR JUST LIGHT OR JUST LIKE, WE'VE LIKE WE'VE DONE BEFORE ON EXPERIENCE WE HAVE WITH COUNSELING MEETINGS, WHICH WE CAN CERTAINLY DO IS THAT MAKES THE MEETING BEFORE, PARTICULARLY THE MEETING AFTER VERY HEAVY AND WE CAN DO THAT, BUT IT'S JUST EXPERIENCE, WE CAN DO IT.
IT MAKES IT HEAVIER, BUT MAYBE IT ADDS AN HOUR AS OPPOSED TO AN EVENING, YOU KNOW? SO I MEAN, IT'S, WE, WE DID POSTPONING QUITE A FEW ITEMS TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE GETTING BETTER AS A GROUP AT MOVING THROUGH THINGS.
SO 2:00 AM LAST TIME, DID WE? YES.
I'VE SLEPT SINCE THEN, UH, EARLY.
WELL I THINK THAT'S THE SECOND THROUGH THE FIFTH IS STILL A PRETTY GOOD DATE, FRANKLY.
SO IS JANUARY OFF THE TABLE BECAUSE WE RECOVER IS SO QUICKLY, SO WELL THE END OF JANUARY, MAYBE.
SO THE DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL SEAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS POTENTIAL FOR TURNOVER, BUT THAT ONE'S GOT A HIGH PROBABILITY OF A RUNOFF, WHICH MEANS THAT'S A DECEMBER, UH, ELECTION.
AND SO IT'D BE GOOD FOR THEM TO HAVE A COUPLE MEETINGS BEFORE WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP.
SO I WOULD BE NERVOUS ABOUT DOING, I THINK THAT I REALLY DO LIKE THAT FIRST WEEK, FIRST WEEKEND IN FEBRUARY, CUZ THEN THEY'RE GONNA GET THREE, WELL TWO, MAYBE THREE MEETINGS BEFORE THE WORKSHOP, WHICH IS PROBABLY HELPFUL.
IF WE PREPARE FOR IT NOW WE COULD BE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF THOSE AGENDA ITEMS THAT Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON AND ALSO KNOW THIS BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
SO MAYBE THINGS ARE NOT AS HEAVY UNTIL I KNOW IN MARCH, I KNOW IN, IN MARCH WE ALWAYS HAVE REAL HEAVY AGENDAS, BUT WE'RE JUST COMING OUTTA THE HOLIDAYS.
BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESENT, WE CAN GET IT DONE IN JANUARY TO WHERE THAT DAY ON THE SEVENTH, WE CAN MAYBE HAVE 25 ITEMS OR MAYBE 30 AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE AND WE'D BE REJUVENATE AS WELL WHERE WE'D BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR GOAL SET.
SO WE MAKE A MOTION OR NO, I THINK THEY CAN FIGURE OUT GOOD, GOOD WITH IT FOR NOW BECAUSE THAT'S TRUE.
WHEREVER WE DON'T HAVE A LOCATION YET WE EVER DECIDE.
LET'S LET'S HAVE YOU MAYBE THINK ABOUT IT SOME MORE AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL AND THEN SURE.
IF Y'ALL WANT TO EMAIL US, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WANT TO SEE IN WHATEVER CITY WE END UP IN.
WE'LL TRY TO IDENTIFY WHERE THAT IS.
BUT WE GOT THE DATES, SO THAT'S HELPFUL ALL, UM, DID
[IX. Executive Session]
WE GET THROUGH EVERYTHING IN EXEC? NO.I DON'T KNOW WHICH ITEMS SO SOMEONE ELSE IS GONNA HAVE TO READ IT, JUST REREAD THE WHOLE THING.
AND PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
DURING THIS MEETING CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO
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EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINING CHAPTER 5 50, 1 OF THE TEXAS COME CODE, INCLUDING ANY OF THE FOLLOWING.WE'RE GONNA GO WITH PROJECT BROWN BEAR AND PERSONNEL MATTERS.
CITY INTERN, IS IT WE'RE IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, MEETING BACK TO ORDER TIMES 10 52.
THERE'S NO ACTION TAKEN DURING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NOW I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO D UM, UH, TO, TO DIRECT STAFF, TO COMPENSATE THE NEW INTERIM CITY MANAGER, MR. JERRY HENDRICKS IN AN AMOUNT OF, UH, FOR HIS NEW ROLE AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND AN AMOUNT OF $50,000 ANNUALIZED, WHICH IS ABOUT 4,000 A MONTH, SECOND, UH, AND HANG ON, I'M STILL MAKING THE MOTION AND TO, UH, HAVE THAT AMOUNT BE, UH, RETROACTIVE, UH, TO WHEN HE WAS FIRST MADE ACTING CITY MANAGER SECOND.
MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KAS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS JERRY, ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.
AND THEN YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO MOTION TO ADJO SECOND.