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[I. Call Meeting to Order]
RIGHT.THE TIME IS 7:02 PM IT IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TWO, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE WITH THE CITY.
SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING, NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022, AND THE REGULAR MEETING ON THE SAME DATE.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBI SECOND, AND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SEEING NONE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
COMMENTS, PERIOD.AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO SO.
WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
I HAVE A FEW FOLKS WHO HAVE REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
UH, FIRST UP IS MISS KATE JOHNSON.
I'M KATE JOHNSON, CHAIRMAN OF A HAYES COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF KYLE'S HISTORY, THEY THINK OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND THEN AS KYLE HAS GROWN AS A CITY, IT NOW IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PLACES THAT IS BEING LOST THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THE CITY SHOULD BE MINDFUL OF THE IMPACT OF DEVELOPMENT ON AGRICULTURAL HISTORY OF WHAT WAS KYLE'S SURROUNDINGS, WHETHER IT IS EVIDENCE OF SOMETHING LIKE A WELL OR A BARN THAT IS PART OF THE CULTURAL LANDSCAPE AND WHERE IT CAN BE PRESERVED, IT SHOULD.
WHEN PEOPLE MOVE TO A NEW PLACE, THEY HAVE A CONNECTION WHERE THEY LIVE TO THE HISTORY.
A LOT OF THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THEY DON'T HAVE AN IDENTITY.
THEY JUST HAVE A NAME, BUT THEIR IDENTITY IS A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT TO THEIR HISTORY.
SO THEY CARE ABOUT PLACE HISTORY, EXCUSE ME, HISTORY BINDS THEM ALL TOGETHER.
SO IT'S JUST NOT A HOUSE ON A STREET WITH A BED.
THE DEVELOPER CARES ABOUT OUR CULTURAL RESOURCES AS EVIDENCE OF PRESERVING THIS 20TH CENTURY.
WELL, ALONGSIDE THE OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
WE SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN.
IT'S GREAT THAT THE OWNER IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO PRESERVE THIS.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING TO FACILITATE THIS AS A WAY TO COMBINE US.
UH, NEXT UP IS MS. SUSAN RENA.
MY NAME IS SUSAN RENA, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT TWO THINGS TONIGHT.
UH, FIRST I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER WONDERFUL AUTHOR COMING TO OUR TOWN THIS FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH AT 7:30 PM AT THE CATHERINE ANNE PORTERHOUSE AT 5 0 8 WEST CENTER STREET.
AND HER NAME IS STACY SWAN, AND SHE'S ACTUALLY A TEXAN, AND SHE WROTE A NOVEL CALLED OLYMPUS, TEXAS, AND IT WAS A GOOD MORNING AMERICA FIRST BOOK CLUB SELECTION, AND AN INDIE NEXT PICK.
AND IT WAS LONG LISTED FOR THE CENTER FOR FICTION, FIRST NOVEL PRIZE.
UH, SHE ACTUALLY HAS A MASTER OF FINE ARTS FROM TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED SHE'S GONNA BE HERE.
SO I'M ALL HOPING, I'M HOPING ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE FROM KYLE SHOW UP TO WELCOME HER THIS FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 18TH AT SEVEN 30, ONCE AGAIN AT 5 0 8 WEST CENTER STREET.
THE SECOND THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS, AS A RESIDENT OF, UH, STAGECOACH CROSSING, YOU AGAIN HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA THE ISSUE OF SPEEDING ON CONESTOGA DRIVE PAST THE PARK.
I WAS EXCITED TO SEE IT'S BACK AGAIN.
UM, LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PROPOSING POSSIBLY LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT TO 25 AND ADDING SOME MARKING ON THE ROAD.
AND I'M HOPING YOU DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE THINGS.
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RIGHT.THOSE ARE ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? MAYOR, JUST WITH YOUR PERMISSION, WE, UH, ON ITEM NUMBER 25, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 74 PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO BE REGISTERED IN SUPPORT.
AND I, I DON'T WANNA BELABOR PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH THAT.
PERHAPS WE COULD JUST GIVE THEM TO THE COUNCIL AT ITEM 25.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE.
CITIZEN COMMENTS, CITIZEN COMMENTS IS NOW, UH, CLOSED.
[IV. Agenda Order]
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ORDER.IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO MOVE ANY ITEMS ON THE A, UH, AGENDA? COUNCIL MEMBER, TOBIAS? YES.
THE, CAN WE LOOK AT MOVING, UH, ITEM NUMBER 26 TO THE FRONT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP, UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 AND PLACE IT UNDER PRESENTATION.
SO WE WILL HANDLE, UH, THE ARTS COMMISSION AT THE TOP OF CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE.
UH, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GO WITH WORD PLACE NOW IF YOU'RE READY.
[4.
Appointment to the Economic Development & Tourism Board. ~ Victoria Vargas, Director of Economic Development
- Tony Spano, Developer Seat (Reappointment)
- Eddie Brown, Local Business Owner Seat (Reappointment)
- Luke Miller, Healthcare Seat
- Cassidy Berenato, Tourism Seat
WELL, FIRST WE HAVE, UH, APPOINTMENTS.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS APPOINTMENT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD, UH, MS. VICTORIA VARGAS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I AM HERE TO ASK FOR APPOINTMENTS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD, AND ALL OF OUR BOARD APPOINTMENTS, UH, APPOINTEES ARE HERE, AS WELL AS OUR BOARD CHAIR, BRIAN ZIEGLER.
HE IS SEEKING A REAPPOINTMENT FOR THE DEVELOPER SEAT.
HE'S A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER, AND HE'S ALSO SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT, LUKE MILLER WITH SETON ASCENSION.
SETON IS, UM, SEEKING THE SEAT OF THE HEALTHCARE SEAT.
AND THEN CASSIDY BARNATO, THE TOURISM SEAT.
SHE IS WITH TEXAS AVIATION PARTNERS, AND SHE IS ONLINE.
UH, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, THEY'RE HERE.
BUT THEIR BIOS AND APPLICATIONS WERE ALL IN THE PACKET AS WELL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR MOTIONS COUNCIL MEMBER FLOOR SCALE? UM, I JUST, UM, I, MY CONCERN MORE IS FOR JERRY IN THE PROCESS, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW WE EXCLUDED THIS OUT OF OUR POLICY, OUR BOARD AND COMMISSIONS, BUT WE NEVER SAID WHAT KIND OF PROCESS WE WERE GONNA USE TO, UM, APPOINT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEES OR THE BOARD MEMBERS.
SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED AS TO DID WE ALREADY, LIKE, WHAT IS A PROCESS? BECAUSE I'D REALLY GET LIKE TO GET THAT ESTABLISHED BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
THE, THE PROCESS IS INTENDED TO BE THAT THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUGGESTS THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL PROVES, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.
SO THE DISCUSSION WE HAD AT THE, AT THE LAST MEETING WAS TWOFOLD.
ONE, TO SUSPEND THE RULES THAT, UH, UH, OF, OR TWO, EXEMPT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD FROM THE CURRENT POLICY.
UH, AND SECOND WAS TO, UH, HAVE A NEW POLICY BE PREPARED.
WE ARE, UH, THE INTENTION HERE IS TO USE THE NAMES THAT WERE ALREADY BROUGHT FORWARD FOR DRAFT DAY, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD MADE THAT DECISION AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
AND BECAUSE THE BOARD IS, UH, DEFUNCT.
AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING AND AND THOUGHT IS THAT THE INTENTION WILL BE AS WE CONSIDER UPDATING AND REVAMPING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICY, UH, THAT, UH, THAT THE MS. VARGAS WILL ACTUALLY PROPOSE A POLICY CONCURRENT WITH THAT FOR US TO CONSIDER AT THAT TIME.
I THOUGHT AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A TASK FORCE THAT WAS GOING TO BE FORMED, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION WOULD BE AT THAT TIME, PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, AND THEN I CAN BRING FORTH A POLICY AS WELL.
SO WAS THERE A TASK FORCE? NO, I THINK IT WAS DECIDED BY COUNCIL TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW CITY MANAGER WAS THE COUNCIL HAD FULL DIOCESE UNTIL WE HAD A FULL AND A FULL DI YES.
BUT FOR NOW, IT WAS A REQUEST TO APPOINT THESE MEMBERS BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY COULDN'T MEET LAST MONTH OR LAST WEEK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM.
SO WE'RE MISSING A COUPLE OF SEATS AND REAPPOINTMENTS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE AS CONTINUE MEETING.
IS THERE ANY WAY, OKAY, SO HERE'S MY CONCERN.
IF WE'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL THE NEW CITY MANAGER, WHICH I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, UM, THESE PEOPLE ARE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
SO FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS? YES.
SO HOW MANY OTHER SPOTS BESIDES THIS WILL NEED TO BE FILLED? UM, THESE ARE IT FOR RIGHT NOW UNTIL, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME THAT ARE COMING
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UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT, UM, OR THEIR TERM IS EXPIRING IN THE NEXT YEAR.I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATES, BUT I CAN, I CAN CHECK ON THAT.
SO OUT OF HOW MANY OPENINGS ARE THERE NOW? FOUR.
AND WE ONLY HAVE FOUR APPLICATIONS, SO THAT MAKES ME KIND OF CONCERNED.
WE LEFT THE APPLICATIONS OPEN AT THE SAME TIME THAT ALL THE OTHER BOARDS, UM, WERE SEEKING APPLICANTS.
AND THESE ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT APPLIED, THAT QUALIFIED FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
I MEAN, THIS DOESN'T GIVE US MUCH OF A, THIS DOESN'T GIVE US ANY VARIETY.
LIKE, UM, THAT'S MY CONCERN IS, UM, I MEAN, AND I DO HAVE QUESTIONS, AND SO BEYOND THIS, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT AND FOR, UM, THE NEW PEOPLE.
SO IF, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANNA SHARE OR CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, I'LL LET THEM GO FIRST.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CUSTOMER TOBIS? OKAY.
THIS WAS GONNA BE ADDRESSED TO I GUESS MISS CASSIDY, BETO, NATO.
IF A RIO, IF, UH, POINTED TO THIS, UH, TOURISM BOARD, WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF YOUR TOP GOALS THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT AS FAR AS PROMOTING THE CITY ON THIS BOARD WHEN IT COMES TO TOURISM? IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF, ARE YOU ABLE, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? UH, WE HEARD, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY ON MY END.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE SEEING IT ON YOUR END.
UM, SO MY NAME IS CASIE BARNATO.
I'M WITH TEXAS AVIATION PARTNERS, AND WE HAVE MANAGED THE SAN MARCO REGIONAL AIRPORT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS.
UM, FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, UH, I ACTUALLY RECENTLY MOVED, BUT FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS, I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
SO MY HEART IS WITH THE CITY OF KYLE, EVEN THOUGH I WORK IN THE CITY OF SAN MARCO.
AND IT HAS BEEN A GOAL OF MINE FOR A LONG TIME TO, UM, INTRODUCE THE AIRPORT TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
EVEN THOUGH THE AIRPORT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS, IT IS A BIG ASSET TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND SO I THINK THAT MY EXPERTISE, UH, ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE AIRPORT AND CITY GOVERNMENTS AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE SIDE, UH, I THINK I CAN BE AN ASSET TO THE CITY OF KYLE IN HELPING TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN, UH, FOLKS TO OUR CITY.
THAT THAT'S PRETTY INTERESTING BECAUSE, UH, THERE IS THE EXPANSION OF HIGHWAY 21 THAT IS, THAT IS, I CAN'T THINK CURRENTLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TO WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO UTILIZE THE AIRPORT A SENSE AS A WAY FOR MAYBE RESIDENTS TO USE LATER ON TO, VERSUS HAVING TO DRIVE INTO AUSTIN TO KIND OF PROMOTE THAT AND WORK WITH MAYBE THE CITY OF SAN MARCO AND THE COUNTY IN THAT SENSE, AS FAR AS THAT GOES, AS FAR AS AVIATION GOES, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT.
THE, THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE AND BUSINESS OWNERS WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE ALREADY UTILIZED THE AIRPORT.
UH, AND I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT IT AS AT THIS POINT, IT'S A FREE ASSET TO THE CITY OF KYLE, AND IT'S A REALLY, REALLY GOOD ONE.
MAYBE THAT'S, IT'S A GREAT RECRUITMENT TOOL.
WELL, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT LATER ON WE CAN, AS THE CITY LOOK AT AS AN ALTERNATE, UH, ROUTE FOR PEOPLE TO GO VERSUS GOING IN.
ALSO, WE COULD USE SAN MARCUS ON IT.
AND THE LAST, UH, QUESTION THAT I HAVE WOULD BE FOR MR. MILLER
HOW ARE YOU DOING? SO WITH YOUR, UH, APPLICATION, IF, UH, YOU ARE NOMINATED TO, TO GET ON THIS BOARD AND YOU'RE WITH THE HEALTHCARE, IS THERE ANY KIND OF GOALS OR ANY KIND OF PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD LEAD THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS WHEN IT COMES TO PROVIDING HEALTHCARE OR MAYBE ANOTHER FAC WORKING WITH THE FACILITIES OR, OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL TONIGHT.
AND, UH, I'M THANKFUL FOR THE APPOINTMENT AND THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITY OF KYLE.
SEATON HAYES HAS BEEN OPEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS.
OUR GOAL SINCE OPENING WAS TO CONTINUE TO GROW WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TO ALLOW THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE TO RECEIVE TOP-NOTCH CARE WHERE THEY LIVE AND WHERE THEY, THEY WORK, UH, TO NOT HAVE TO TRAVEL INTO AUSTIN OR INTO OTHER AREAS TO RECEIVE THAT CARE.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW, UH, QUALITY ACCOLADES THAT, UH, REFLECT THE LEVEL
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OF CARE AND THE EXPERTISE THAT'S PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, FOR MY INVOLVEMENT IN THE BOARD, I THINK IT ALIGNS CLOSELY WITH THE FUTURE OF, UH, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.HOW DOES THE HOSPITAL ALIGN WITH THAT? HOW DOES THE HOSPITAL CONTINUE TO GROW WITH THAT? WHAT TYPES OF ADDITIONAL SERVICES CAN WE OFFER TO KEEP, KEEP THE RESIDENTS REALLY IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY LIVE AND WORK? SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
SO YOU'D BE WORKING WITH, UH, WOULD YOU, UH, BE WORKING WITH OTHER ENTITIES WITHIN THE CITY, LET'S SAY SOME OF THE URGENT CARE CLINICS THAT WE HAVE TO WHERE YOU COULD BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER IN THAT SENSE? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO, UH, UH, HAVE A GOAL GOAL WITH FOR THE CITY? ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK STRENGTHENING AND FOSTERING THOSE CONNECTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW TIMES, THOSE URGENT CARE FACILITIES WILL SERVE A MUCH NEEDED ROLE.
UM, THE HOSPITAL OFFERS KIND OF THE NEXT LEVEL OF CARE OR CONTINUITY OF CARE.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE A, A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A GOAL WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO FOSTER THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
AND I THINK MY INVOLVEMENT IN THE BOARD WILL ALLOW ME TO BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF THE HOSPITAL.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? CUSTOMERS DO GO, MR. MILLER? UH, SO ARE YOU GOING TO, UM, EXPAND OR DO MORE WORK WITH, UH, MENTAL HEALTH FOR THE, LIKE THE RESIDENTS? TRY TO, UM, ENCOURAGE THAT OR SEE LIKE WHERE WE CAN HELP, UM, UM, THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT MIGHT NEED SOME OF THOSE SERVICES, LIKE DIRECT THEM, LIKE WHERE THEY CAN GET INFORMATION? ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THAT IS DONE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS.
UH, MENTAL HEALTH IS ALWAYS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT IS MENTIONED AS A NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, KYLE IS NOT, UM, ALONE IN IN THAT NEED.
UH, CERTAINLY IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, THE HOSPITAL TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND SERVICES OR AT LEAST, UM, BE ABLE TO BUILD THOSE CONNECTIONS AND MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE SERVICES.
SO IT, IT IS DEFINITELY A NEED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER? PARSLEY.
UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR, UH, SORRY.
UM, WHERE IS YOUR BUSINESS LOCATED? WE ARE IN THE HPI, UH, WAREHOUSE PARK RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HOME DEPOT.
THAT WAS ALL, ALL MY QUESTION.
AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. TONY SPANO.
HI, HOW ARE YOU? DOING WELL, THANK YOU.
UM, WHAT DEVELOP DEVELOPMENTS ARE YOU CURRENTLY WORKING ON? SO I AM, UH, AS OF ABOUT 30 DAYS AGO, SEMI-RETIRED.
UH, HAVE JUST PREVIOUSLY LEFT, UH, BIG LOW HOMES AND WAS WORKING IN PLUM CREEK AND CREEKSIDE DEVELOPMENT.
I'M GONNA ASK FOR A LITTLE GRACE BECAUSE MY QUESTIONS ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, THEY'RE GONNA BE LONGER, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE A WISE DECISION WHEN I DO THIS.
AND SO, UM, I'M GONNA ASK EVERYBODY A FEW QUESTIONS, UM, TO INCLUDE THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY MEMBERS, UH, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
UM, I REALLY LIKED EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAD TO SAY, AND I LIKED THE, THE DIRECTION YOU WERE GOING.
THE ONE KIND OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST I SEE IS THAT YOU ARE ON THE SAN MARCUS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND SO I, I GUESS I WANNA KIND OF BE REASSURED THAT THERE WON'T BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN WHAT YOU DO FOR KYLE VERSUS WHAT YOU DO FOR SAN MARCUS.
EVEN THOUGH I'M TOTALLY PRO, LET'S WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA CONFLICT WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN, IN SAN MARCO.
AND I'M ALSO PART OF THE VISION 2025, UH, WITH A GREATER SAN MARCO PARTNERSHIP, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, IS A REGIONAL, UH, ORGANIZATION.
AND SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, AND WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.
I WILL SAY THAT AS AN AIRPORT AND AS AIRPORT MANAGEMENT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS REGIONALLY.
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COMMUNITY THAT SURROUNDS THE AIRPORT IS A WIN FOR THE AIRPORT, NOT JUST FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, OR I'M SORRY, THE CITY OF SAN MARCO.SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, BUT THE WAY WE OPERATE, WE ALREADY, UH, THINK REGIONALLY.
AND SO I THINK THAT I CAN, UH, BRING THAT TO THE CITY OF KYLE AND, UM, BE REALLY, UH, CONSCIOUS WITH MY DECISIONS AND, AND, AND GUIDANCE.
AND DO YOU HAVE, UM, ANY, AT LEAST ONE SPECIFIC PLAN THAT YOU HAVE TO KIND OF HELP THE CITY OF KYLE AND IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAY? I THINK IT'S ALL ABOUT EDUCATION.
I THINK THAT THERE'S SO MUCH, UM, THAT I CAN BRING IN TERMS OF WHAT THE AIRPORT PROVIDES TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S A FREE ASSET FOR US.
UM, AND BEING ABLE TO MARKET THAT AND UTILIZE THAT AS A, AS A CARROT TO ENTICE PEOPLE TO COME TO THE REGION AND TO COME TO THE CITY OF KYLE, I WOULD BE INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT.
UM, THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS FOR MR. MILLER.
UM, WHEN I I READ YOUR APPLICATION, I WAS EQUALLY EXCITED.
UM, SO I'M GONNA SAY, I'M GONNA READ ONE OF YOUR ANSWERS OUT LOUD BECAUSE I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED BY, BY IT.
UM, WHAT DO YOU FEEL ARE THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD SLASH COMMISSIONS YOU ARE APPLYING FOR? AND YOUR ANSWER WAS TO ENVISION A FUTURE FOR KYLE WHERE RESIDENTS CAN LEAD FULFILLING LIVES AND TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ALIGN WITH A, FOR A PROSPEROUS FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED BY THAT, SO THANK YOU.
UM, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TO YOU IS GONNA BE IN, ON MARCH 7TH, 2022, THE COMMUNITY IMPACT EXPRESSED AN INTEREST OR HAD ST.
DAVID'S STATE THAT THEY EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN DEVELOPING IN KYLE.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU DO OR HOW DO YOU THINK YOU COULD USE YOUR POSITION TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE HOSPITAL? CUZ THE LAST THING I WANNA SEE IS LIKE, UH, COMPETITION.
LIKE, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME HEALTHY COMPETITION, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, UH, THE HOSPITALS WORKING TOGETHER.
SO, UH, JUST ALLOW ME TO REPHRASE FOR JUST A SECOND.
HOW WOULD MY APPROACH BE WITH, UH, POTENTIALLY ST.
DAVID'S COMING TO KYLE? IS THAT CORRECT? LIKE BEING A BOARD MEMBER, WHAT DO YOU THINK, HOW DO YOU THINK YOU COULD USE YOUR POSITION TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH ST.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, IN AND AROUND THE AUSTIN AREA, UH, BOTH ASCENSION ST.
DAVID'S AS WELL AS BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE, UH, WHILE OUR, UH, I GUESS IN A WAY YOU COULD SAY COMPETITORS IN, IN, IN ESSENCE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WE DO OF REQUIREMENT IS, IS TO WORK TOGETHER WITH ONE ANOTHER.
I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK PARTICULARLY IN THE PAST, UH, PROBABLY SIX TO 18 MONTHS, UH, REALLY WITH, UH, A DEVELOPMENT OF C AND ADDITIONAL ISSUES, NOW MORE THAN EVER, HOSPITALS HAVE HAD TO GET CREATIVE ABOUT WORKING WITH ONE ANOTHER.
UH, SO WHETHER THAT IS POTENTIALLY A TIME WHERE, UH, CRITICAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT GOES DOWN AND PATIENTS HAVE TO BE ROUTE REROUTED OR WHETHER YOU HAVE, UH, SIGNIFICANT, UH, VACCINATION CAMPAIGN, UM, I THINK THAT NOW MORE THAN EVER YOU'VE SEEN, UH, HEALTH SYSTEMS COME TOGETHER TO REALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE.
YOU KNOW, AN ADDITIONAL, UH, ST.
DAVID'S COMING TO KYLE IS, IS, UH, A WELCOMED ADVANCEMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE ONLY THING THAT CAN DO IS, UH, ELEVATE THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT'S PROVIDED BY HAVING MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR RESIDENTS TO RECEIVE CARE.
MY INVOLVEMENT ON THE BOARD WOULD BE, UH, USING SOME OF THOSE CONNECTIONS, WELCOMING THEM TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UM, LOOKING TO BETTER IDENTIFY WHERE WE CAN HAVE A SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP.
MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, UH, SPECIFICALLY WOULD THEY LIKE TO DO, HOW DOES THAT FIT IN INTO MAYBE THE GREATER ECOSYSTEM? AND, YOU KNOW, TO ONE OR TWO OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT, UH, ONE HEALTH SYSTEM CAN SOLVE BY ITSELF, YOU KNOW? SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL HEALTH SYSTEM COMING TO THE LOCAL AREA WHERE WE COULD LOOK TO PARTNER TOGETHER ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MAKE POTENTIAL ADVANCEMENTS, AGAIN, TO REALLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY WHERE, UH, THE CITIZENS WORK AND LIVE.
AND THEN, UH, THE, I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MR. BROWN.
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HI.UM, I THOROUGHLY RESEARCHED YOUR STUFF TOO, CUZ UH, IT'S NIKE, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE ALL KINDS OF NIKE STUFF.
AND SO I DO APPRECIATE, UM, WHAT, CAN YOU KIND OF DESCRIBE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU GUYS DO? SURE.
UM, MY COMPANY, UH, ATHLETE PERFORMANCE SOLUTIONS, WE'RE A LICENSEE FOR NIKE.
ESSENTIALLY WE ARE THE FACE OF NIKE'S BRAND TO SEVERAL SPORTS, UH, FENCING, BOXING, VOLLEYBALL, CHEERLEADING, FIELD HOCKEY, ET CETERA.
WE ACTUALLY MAKE THOSE PRODUCTS AND PUT THE NIKE LOGO ON THEM AND SELL THEM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
SO CAN YOU DO THAT FOR LIKE, THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THE MIDDLE? WE DO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK WITH HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
HOW ABOUT LOCALLY? UH, WE DON'T DO IT DIRECTLY THROUGH OUR SALES TEAM.
WE WORK THROUGH RETAIL PARTNERS WHO WOULD SERVE HIGH SCHOOLS AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
IT'S A VERY HIGH TOUCH CONSUMER, UH, DEALING WITH A TEAM.
AND WE'RE NOT SCALED TO HANDLE THAT LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WELL, WE DO BETTER WHEN WE HAVE A RETAILER LIKE ACADEMY WHO NEEDS PRODUCT THROUGHOUT HUNDREDS OF STORES AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
AND THEN WE FIND TEAM DEALERS WHO DO A GREAT JOB WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE COACHES AND THE ATHLETIC ADMINISTRATORS AT A SCHOOL TO SERVE THEIR NEEDS.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT DEVELOPMENT YOU'VE FOCUSED ON HERE IN KYLE? LIKE, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'VE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD ALREADY? UH, I THINK GIVEN THE BRANDING EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD WHEN I WAS AT NIKE, I'VE DONE SOME WORK WITH STAFF ON REBRANDING, UH, FOR SEA OF COLLEGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM BOARD.
SO THAT'S A PROCESS THAT'S UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.
SO I HAD MY DESIGN TEAM, UM, SEND SOME EXAMPLES FOR, UH, OUR BOARD TO REVIEW AND FOR STAFF TO REVIEW.
SO THAT'S ONE SMALL PROJECT THAT, UM, THAT I FEEL I, I HAVE A LOT OF FUN CONTRIBUTING TO.
AND THEN I WOULD SAY THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD WORK BEING DONE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF BUSINESS RECRUITMENT AND SPECIFICALLY AGAINST, UH, HIGHER END DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
I, I REPRESENT DISTRICT TWO, WHICH IS EAST TO WEST, HOWEVER, UM, I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION FOR YOU AND FOR ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD.
AND I WANNA KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS, WHAT PLANS DO YOU SEE FOR EAST KYLE, NAMELY LIKE THE SOUTH THAT'S TOTALLY UNDEVELOPED.
WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THERE? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO ADDITIONAL CONVENTION AND MEETING SPACE AND BETTER HOTELS.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THE HIGHER END RESTAURANTS WE'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO RECRUIT TO OUR CITY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO, CERTAINLY TO MY BUSINESS.
UM, I DON'T LIKE BRINGING GUESTS TO TOWN AND FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SEND THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO STAY.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SUITABLE, UH, HOTELS HERE WITH BUSINESS MEETING FACILITIES, ET CETERA.
SO WE COULD DO THOSE EVENTS LOCALLY AND, AND NOT HAVE TO DRIVE INTO ANOTHER CITY TO DO THEM.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS I FEEL AS A, A MEMBER OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OF KYLE.
UH, I THINK THEY'RE NEEDED HERE.
UH, AND I'VE, UH, VOICED THAT TO, UH, TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ADVOCATE FOR CONSISTENTLY.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, LET ME ASK, IF YOU COULD PUT DEVELOPMENT ON ONE 50, WHAT WOULD YOU PUT AND WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT? I, IT'S A FAIR QUESTION.
WE'VE HAD SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT A PLACE WHERE THERE SHOULD BE MORE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT? SHOULD IT BE MULTI-FAMILY OR, UM, UH, INDIVIDUAL RESIDENCES? IS THAT WHAT WE NEED MORE OF IN THAT AREA? THERE ARE SO MANY CONCERNS THAT FRANKLY ONLY BEING ON THE BOARD FOR TWO YEARS, THAT I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC PATTERNS BEING ONE OF THEM.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I EVER STUDIED IN MY DIFFERENT ROLES OF LIFE.
UH, BUT CERTAINLY THESE THINGS ARE ALL WORTHY OF SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.
AND I WOULD SAY WE'RE AT THE INFANCY OF, OF THAT.
IN FACT, WE'VE DISCUSSED SHOULD WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD FOR SOME KIND OF STUDY TO BE EXECUTED, UM, TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THAT PROPERTY TO BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, I'M GONNA, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M GONNA BEG YOU, IF YOU GET REAPPOINTED TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PUT SOME FOCUS SOMEWHERE ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, THEY WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY, WE, I, UM, WITH LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSE AND JUST SOME RECOGNITION, HOPEFULLY WITH THE SOUTH SIDE WATERLINE BEING COMPLETED, THEN IT'LL ENTAIL MORE, UH, RETAIL TO BE ABLE TO PUT OUT MORE TOWARDS THE SOUTHEAST.
UM, AND SO IF, IF I CAN CURRENTLY ASK YOU TO DO THAT, I WOULD, WOULD APPRECIATE, UM, SOME CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN, UM, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I HAVE MR. SPANO AND I'M SORRY FOR TAKING SO LONG.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, I CAN SEE IT ON YOUR FACES, BUT I GOTTA, I GOTTA ASK THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I ONLY GET IT ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE IF I REAPPOINT YOU
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GUYS, THAT IT'S GONNA BE WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT I HAVE FOR YOU.UM, AND SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ON THE ED BOARD? I HAVE BEEN ON THE ED BOARD FOR I BELIEVE, SIX YEARS.
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU BRING TO THE BOARD? I THINK AS A DEVELOPER, UM, AND I'VE BEEN A DEVELOPER FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS, UH, I BRING A PERSPECTIVE TO THE BOARD, UM, THAT MANY, UH, OFTEN OVERLOOKED.
AND IT HAS TO DO WITH ADVANCED PLANNING, UH, ENSURING INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, UM, LOOKING AT LOOKING AT THINGS FROM A DEVELOPER PERSPECTIVE WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO TOWN WANTING TO DO SOMETHING, TRYING TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT AREA FOR THEM TO BE IN.
UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT I BRING ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT PERSPECTIVE THAT THAT ONE IN MY POSITION MIGHT HAVE.
UM, NOT SURE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION OR NOT, BUT YOU DID.
UM, CUZ THAT MAKES ME, THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION.
SO WHEN YOU SAY CHOOSING THE RIGHT AREA FOR THEM, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS TO DEVELOP, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, TO, TO DEVELOP, I'M GONNA ASK YOU THE SAME WAY, THE EAST SIDE AND AND WHAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE SPECIFICALLY OFF THE ONE 50 AND, AND THE FEEDER ROAD IN THAT AREA? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE OVER THERE? WELL, DEVELOPMENT WILL, WILL GO IT'S MARKET DRIVEN.
THE MARKET IS GOING TO DRIVE WHAT GOES WHERE, UH, WE CAN TRY AND DIRECT AND AS BEST WE CAN AND, AND PRESENT IDEAS TO FOLKS WHEN THEY COME IN.
BUT I DON'T HAVE THE, THE 10 MILLION THAT IT'S GONNA REQUIRE TO GO BUY THIS PIECE OF LAND TO PUT WHAT I WANT IN THIS SPOT.
SO, AND NEITHER DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD.
WE'RE JUST THERE TO ASSIST AND, AND, AND TRY AND DIRECT THINGS.
FROM A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, AND I THINK I'VE SAID THIS TO, TO THIS, TO THE, I'M NOT SURE TO THE DIAS, BUT JUST TO PEOPLE ON THIS, UH, ON THIS, UH, UH, COUNCIL BEFORE, UM, I BELIEVE IN 21, I BELIEVE THAT 21 IS GOING TO BE A, A SIGNIFICANT BYPASS TO I 35 IN THE, IN THE SHORT TERM.
I THINK THAT THE AIRPORT THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT TONIGHT IS GOING TO, HAS A, HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
I THINK THE TESLA PLANT THAT'S OUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF, OF AUSTIN IS GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT OUR AREA.
I BELIEVE INDUSTRY IN THAT AREA, UH, WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT, UH, TO PUT SOME INDUSTRY, TO PUT SOME, SOME HEAVY INDUSTRY OUT THERE.
NOW IS, COULD IT HAPPEN TOMORROW? PROBABLY NOT.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
WE NEED TO, AND I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW THAT THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH SOME COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, UH, THERE'S SOME, A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED BASED ON THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST USE IS OUT THERE.
THE, YOU YOU MENTIONED INFRASTRUCTURE, SO INFRASTRUCTURE IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE COMING TO COUNCIL AND TELLING US THE ROADS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DEVELOP, NOT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT IN THE SAME AREA, BUT WHERE WE COULD DEVELOP TO HELP CREATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AT ALL.
I THINK A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE AREA.
UH, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ASSUMPTIONS DEVELOPED AND COMMUNICATED TO, TO DEVELOP A, A, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THOSE TYPES WITH THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION.
I THINK THAT THE CITY CAN THEN MAKE A, AN INFORMED, WELL INFORM DECISION.
WELL, YOUR PREVIOUS ANSWER WAS CHOOSING THE RIGHT AREA FOR THE DEVELOPERS.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP, I MEAN, IN THAT CASE, WE'RE NEVER GONNA DEVELOP CERTAIN AREAS OF KYLE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO DEVELOPERS.
SO I GUESS MY ASK FOR YOU IS THAT IF YOU DO GET REAPPOINTED THAT YOU NOT BE A TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE AN ENGINEER AND YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO FIX.
JUST THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS AREA.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO HEAR.
AND THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL, YES.
TO DIRECT THEM TO THE BEST SPOT WITHIN KYLE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT TO BE.
MAYOR, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM FOUR AND REAPPOINT, MR. TONY SPANO, EDDIE BROWN, AND THEN, UH, APPOINT LUKE MILLER AND CASSIDY BENATO TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?
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JUST REAL QUICK.UH, UH, THANK YOU, UH, FLORES, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES CAROL, FOR THOSE IN DEPTH QUESTIONS, UM, WE NEED TO HEAR THAT.
UH, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE EVERYBODY'S HEARING ABOUT THE EAST KYLE, WHAT ARE WE DOING IN EAST KYLE? YOU PROBABLY HEARD ME SAY THAT FOR, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
21 IS EXPANDING, I 30 IS JUST DOWN THE ROAD AND SAN MARCUS IS CREEPING UP TO US, AND YOU GOT KAMAL COUNTY, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY, REALLY NEED TO JUST LOOK AT.
AND I KNOW OF STRESS THIS TO, UH, TO WILL AND JERRY AND I EVEN SAID THIS TO SCOTT SELLERS, UH, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE GOTTA REALLY LOOK AT BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT GOLD MINE IS ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I, I DO LIKE THE ANSWERS THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE WHO WE APPOINT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR CITY AND THE NEEDS FOR THE RESIDENTS, WHETHER IT'S TOURISM, WHETHER IT'S CONTINUED HEALTHCARE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THE, UH, AND THEN ALSO FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS GOING FORWARD, INCLUDING SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
IT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG PLUS THERE.
I DID LIKE THE IDEA OF A POSSIBLE, UH, CONVENTION CENTER STYLE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE SOMEWHERE OUT THERE OR JUST IN THE AREA.
BUT IT'S GOOD THAT YOU, EACH ONE OF YOU, ALL FOUR OF YOU HAVE THAT IN MIND OF GOALS.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I ALWAYS ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
WHAT WOULD BE YOUR GOALS IF YOU WERE APPOINTED HERE VERSUS JUST SERVING AND WITH THAT HIGH YIELD, SIR? ANYONE ELSE? SO THIS IS ALL JUST ONE VOTE.
SHE, THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE ALL OF THEM.
THE MOTION WAS TO PROVE ALL OF THEM.
UH, OUR NATIVE AMERICAN PROCLAMATION IS NEXT.
UH, BUT WE'VE HAD A REQUEST TO MOVE THAT DOWN IN FAVOR OF THE WORD PLACE DEVELOPMENT.
[25. Presentation of Word Place Development - Jeff Barton, Partner, Gap Strategies]
GONNA BRING UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25, PRESENTATION OF WORD PLACE DEVELOPMENT BY MR. JEFF BARTON.LET'S SEE, AND JENNIFER, HOW, REMIND ME HOW I'M GONNA ADVANCE, UH, SLIDES HERE.
I THINK WE HAVE A SLIDE DECK TO SHOW YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
IT'S A PDF LOOKS LIKE, SO NO BUTTONS.
AH, THANK YOU WILL MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
MY NAME IS JEFF BARTON, UM, AND I AM A NATIONALLY CERTIFIED PLANNER AND A STATE CERTIFIED, UH, URBAN PLANNER, CO-FOUNDER OF GAP STRATEGIES.
WE WORK WITH CITIES ALL ACROSS THE STATE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLACE MAKING, URBAN DESIGN INFRASTRUCTURE, BOND ELECTIONS, AND, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
BUT, UH, IF YOU, I'M HERE TONIGHT.
YEAH, IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH THAT ON A, ON A DIFFERENT PROJECT.
ONE THAT'S, UH, CLOSE TO MY HEART AND, UH, YEAH, THERE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A QUOTE QUOTE THERE FROM ONE OF OUR BUSINESS LEADERS.
IF YOU GO BACK, ONE WILL, I THINK WE WENT JUST PACK PAST A COUPLE THERE.
THE WORKPLACE WILL HELP GROW BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES AND DIVERSITY IN OUR CITY.
AND I WANT MENTION THAT BECAUSE, UH, WHILE THAT IS A, A GREAT BUSINESS LEADER, UH, WE, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD, UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, 74 PEOPLE SIGN UP IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT THIS EVENING.
THAT WOULD TAKE, I THINK TWO HOURS AND 10 MINUTES IF THEY EACH TOOK THEIR THREE MINUTES.
I WANT THAT MUCH GOOD TALK ABOUT THE WORKPLACE.
I'D LIKE TO GET HOME SOMETIME THIS EVENING, BUT WE ARE GONNA PASS THESE OUT AT THE END, UH, OF THE REMARKS.
SO I HOPE YOU'LL TIE, TAKE SOME TIME TO LOOK THROUGH IT.
WE'VE HAD SOME FOLKS WHO REALLY TOOK TIME NOT ONLY TO REGISTER, BUT TO, TO WRITE REALLY THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS.
SO WORKPLACE IS UNLIKE ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE AREA.
YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME DEVELOPERS TONIGHT.
THERE'S SOME GREAT DEVELOPMENTS IN CALL.
Y'ALL HAVE DONE WORK, UH, THAT'S REALLY TO BE ADMIRED.
BUT THIS WILL BE, UH, UNIQUE IN OUR REGION, UNIQUE IN HAYES COUNTY.
WELL, IT'S GONNA HELP SET THE BAR.
WE BELIEVE IT'S GONNA SET THE BAR FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO AS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO CONNECT THE COMMUNITY, BOTH METAPHORICALLY AND GEOGRAPHICALLY.
AND MANY OF THE WAYS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, MS. KALE, REALLY EAST AND WEST, NORTH AND SOUTH OLD TOWN AND NEWTOWN, AND BECOME A DESTINATION FOR UNIQUE KINDS OF
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RETAIL, NIGHTLIFE AND, UH, BOUTIQUE RESTAURANTS.IT ALSO PRESERVES 17 ACRES RIGHT IN THE HEART OF THE CITY, OPEN SPACE IN KYLE.
AND HALF OF THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC PARK THAT WILL BE FULLY REALIZED WITH PLAYGROUNDS, NATURE, TRAILS VIBE, AN OUTDOOR FITNESS CENTER THAT THE CITY IS ASKED FOR.
JUST TO PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT, YOU'VE GOT A GREAT PARK THAT'S RECENTLY OPENED, A HEROES PARK THAT'S LESS THAN FIVE ACRES.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRIPLE THAT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT OF A PUBLIC PARK HERE AND GOING WITH IT.
THE KIND OF UPSCALE LIVING THAT HELPS US ATTRACT, UM, EXECUTIVES AND INDUSTRY AND YOUNG PROFESSIONALS TO THE CITY.
SO I WANNA TAKE JUST THE NEXT SIX OR SEVEN MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WORKPLACE IS, WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR, AND WHAT'S NEEDED.
WHAT IS IT? UH, WE CAN, THIS GIVES YOU SOME CONTEXT ABOUT WHERE IT IS.
IT'S IN THIS AREA BETWEEN MARKETPLACE AND I 35 WITH TWO CREEKS RUNNING THROUGH IT.
AND IT'S IN THIS CORE TRANSITION ZONE.
IT'S WHAT YOU CALL IT NEAR MASTER PLAN.
THE AREA BETWEEN OLD TOWN AND NEWTOWN, LITERALLY CONNECTING OLD KYLE, UH, WITH, UH, NEW KYLE TODAY.
UH, IT IS, UH, IT IS ALSO MY FAMILY'S, UH, FARM.
AND, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PLACE.
I'VE WALKED THOSE FIELDS, BUT, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES THAT HAVE DEVELOPED AROUND IT IN TERMS OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, A ROAD THAT'S BEEN CLOSED OFF BY THE CITY, SOME ABANDONED HOUSES, SO THAT IT ACTUALLY MEETS THE DEFINITION OF BLIGHT.
WELL, THANK YOU TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
WE WANT TO HELP RESTORE THAT PLACE, UH, TO ITS GLORY AND MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS THAT WE SPOKE OF BETWEEN THE PAST AND THE FUTURE.
HERE YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF THE CONCEPT PLAN ON SCREEN, RIGHT, 13 AND A HALF ACRES WITH TWO CREEKS AND ALL THE WEATHER, UH, CREEK WITH BEAUTIFUL WATER THAT'D BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY GREEN SPACE THROUGHOUT, UM, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN THESE, THE YELLOW OR THE VIBE TRAILS.
AND THEN THE BROWN ARE, UH, THE NATURE TRAILS WILL BE ON SITE.
THE VIBE TRAIL LITERALLY INTERSECTS ON THIS PLACE AND THEN CONNECTS TO EAST OF THE INTERSTATE ON THIS PLACE.
THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN FACT NOT ONLY IS, UH, A FAMILY PROJECT, BUT WE PLAN TO BUILD AND HOLD.
SO RATHER THAN SELLING THIS OFF FOR SAY, A TWO YEAR HORIZON, THAT MIGHT BE TYPICAL A TIME OF STABILIZATION, THEY CALL IT.
WE'RE GOING TO HOLD ONTO THIS.
AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN ORANGE WILL BE BUILDINGS THAT WE, UH, WILL HOLD THAT SMALL BUILDING IN.
ORANGE IS MY GRANDPARENTS HISTORIC FARMHOUSE, BUT THEY'RE IN THE 1940S WILL BUILD AROUND THAT WITH FOUR AND FIVE STORY BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE, UH, MIXED USE.
WE WILL BE SELLING TO SOME SELECT BUILDERS WHO SHARE OUR VISION IN THAT LIGHT BLUE FOR TOWN HOMES AND REALLY UNUSUAL BOUTIQUE, SMALL MULTIFAMILY.
UM, THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THE URBAN PLACE MAKING, BUT THERE'S ALSO, UH, A CONNECTION TO NATURE INVOLVED HERE.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WORLD CLASS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND YOUR PARKS DEPARTMENT TO CREATE, UH, UNIQUE, UH, CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND.
UNLIKE ANYTHING IN KYLE THAT WILL KIND OF, UH, COMPLIMENT WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT.
MAINTAIN THOSE, UH, CREEKS, RESTORE THEM, GIVE UH, ADVICE ON THE ECOLOGICAL DIVERSITY THERE FOR YOUR CITY, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT HOW TO KEEP THEM OVER LONG TERM AND PUT IN SOME OF THE OTHER AMENITIES THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
ALL OF THIS WORK HAS HAPPENED OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THE VISION BEGAN IN 2017, I THINK THE MAYOR REMEMBERS AS WE GOT STARTED ON THIS PROJECT WITH, UH, A NUMBER OF APPROVALS WITH THE CITY ALONG THE WAY.
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE HAD MORE THAN 50 MEETINGS WITH YOUR STAFF AS WE REALLY WORKED TOGETHER TO INTEGRATE OUR VISION WITH YOURS.
THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF MEETINGS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND VARIOUS CITY, UH, BOARDS, INCLUDING UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AT P AND Z, UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF A CONCEPT AT CITY COUNCIL AND FOUR SEPARATE UNANIMOUS VOTES AT, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT OR THE PARTS BOARD.
RATHER, IF YOU, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE WE'VE BEEN, IT'S ALSO APPROPRIATE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK ABOUT WHERE WE CAME FROM.
WE DO HAVE DEEP ROOTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, MY, MY GRANDFATHER WAS RAISED IN KA WITHOUT A FATHER CUZ HIS DIED BEFORE HE WAS BORN, AND HE REALLY BOUND HIS FAMILY TO HIM.
SHE'S SITTING BACK HERE WHO'S, UH, SOON BE 87 AND, UH, HAS BEEN A PRACTICING PSYCHOTHERAPIST, LIVES HERE IN KYLE.
AND THE IDEA IS FOR THIS TO REALLY BE A FAMILY COMMITMENT, BUT ALSO A FAMILY LEGACY TO THE CITY TO HONOR WHAT KYLE HAS GIVEN, UH, TO OUR FAMILY THAT'S RESULTED IN SOME OF THESE IMAGES THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE.
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OF THE COUNCIL AND CERTAINLY TO STAFF WHO'VE HELPED US ENRICH THESE IMAGES.UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY HAS WORKED WITH US AND OTHERS OF YOU TO MAKE THEM BETTER AND TO WORK ON THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.
OUR ARCHITECT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS LATER ON, BUT THIS IS A SCENE OF A BUILDING WE CALL, UH, THE THREE SISTERS AFTER THE THREE YOUNG WOMEN YOU SAW ON THAT SLIDE FROM 50 YEARS AGO.
UM, NEXT, UH, WILL, AGAIN, ANOTHER IMAGE.
THIS IS THE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THE FOREGROUND IN THE BACK WITH RETAIL, UNIQUE RETAIL, UH, ONE OF A KIND KINDS OF RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS DOWN ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
UM, SECOND FLOOR BAR SPACE FOR OUR ANCHOR, WHICH IS A RESTAURANT, SOME OF YOU KNOW, MUD BUGS, THIS GREEN BASED ON CARMEL, INDIANA, ONE OF YOUR VISION CITIES UP FRONT.
AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT AND YOU CAN MOVE ON THROUGH THAT, WILL THANK YOU.
UM, AND THEN THE CENTRAL, UH, WHAT WE CALL THE CENTRAL PLAZA SQUARE WITH A FARMHOUSE IN THE BACK.
DEEP PORCHES AND AREAS SUITED FOR CONCERT SPACE, FARMER'S MARKET, AND, UH, VARIOUS PUBLIC EVENTS HERE IN THE CITY.
THERE'S SEVERAL PLACES DEDICATED TO THAT KIND OF PUBLIC ACTIVITY ON THERE.
SO WHERE HAS WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR? WHERE HAVE WE COME FROM? IF YOU'LL SEE HERE, AGAIN, NOT ONLY HAVE WE COMPLETED THIS ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING TO TAKE IT TO A MUCH DEEPER LEVEL THAN MANY OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU AT THIS STAGE, BUT A NUMBER OF PLANNING STUDIES IN, UH, CONCERT WITH THE CITY.
I THINK IF YOU'LL CLICK WILL, CAN YOU CLICK TO SHOW THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT GOING TO COME UP WELL.
UM, A REGIONAL FLOOD STUDY, REGIONAL PARK STUDIES, A NUMBER OF REGIONAL STUDIES THAT REALLY ENCAPSULATE, I SEE IT'S GONNA BE ON SEPARATE SLIDES BECAUSE THE PDF PERHAPS HERE.
UM, EXTENSIVE PEDESTRIAN STUDIES PARTICULARLY TO TO CONNECT BOTH ACROSS MARKETPLACE AND UNDER I 35 AND THEN NORTH TO SOME OF THE NEW NODES, THE REGIONAL, UH, UH, FLOOD STUDY TO ENSURE, UH, SAFETY ON SITE AND ADEQUATE DRAINAGE AS BOTH ON OUR SITE AND DOWNSTREAM.
UH, THANK YOU WILL, IF YOU GO ON, UH, AND TRAFFIC AND PARKING STUDIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT, UH, PARKING ON SITE FOR BOTH THE PARK AND THE RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL ACTIVITIES THAT WILL TAKE PLACE.
FINALLY, WE'VE GOT A PIVOT AND TOURS ANALYSIS THAT REALLY LAYS OUT THE ECONOMIC BENEFITS, UH, FOR THE CITY OF THIS PROJECT.
WILL ANALYZES, UH, SOME FINANCING SCHEMES.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THE JOBS ARE REALLY SIGNIFICANT HUNDREDS OF JOBS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, HUNDREDS MORE LONG TERM FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
ON THE NEXT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT REALLY RESULTS IN MORE THAN A MILLION AND HALF OF NEW TAX DOLLARS TO THE CITY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING TODAY, WHICH IS ONLY ABOUT $45,000 FOR ALL TAXING ENTITIES COMBINED AND 10 MILLION IN INCOME.
SO IT IS A REAL MULTIPLYING EFFECT ECONOMICALLY FOR THE CITY.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOUR STAFF, AS I SAID, BUT ALSO WITH OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS LIKE MR. ABA AND OTHERS TO REALLY COME UP NOT ONLY WITH A PLAN FOR OUR PLACE, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS INTERCONNECTED TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND CREATES A DISTRICT FOR THE CITY.
WE'VE ALSO, UH, HIRED AN ADDITIONAL FLOOD STUDY, UH, AT OUR EXPENSE CHOSEN BY THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE FLOOD, UH, MODELING THAT WAS DONE IS ACCURATE AND ENSURES SAFETY FOR PEOPLE ON OUR SITE AND DOWNSTREAM.
AND FINALLY, WE RECALIBRATED OUR PLANS THAT WERE PRETTY FAR ALONG TO WORK IN CONCERT BETTER WITH YOUR VIBE PLAN AND YOUR VISION OF, UH, WHAT THIS COULD BE AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN OUT IN OR SUBURBAN ATLANTA AND IN, UH, CARMEL.
SO, UH, I MENTIONED WE HAVE ALONG THE WAY HAD THESE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM P AND Z FROM THE COUNCIL AND FOUR TIMES FROM THE PARKS BOARD.
UH, THAT LEAVES US WITH WHAT'S REALLY NEEDED AND WE DO NEED YOUR HELP TONIGHT.
WE NEED SOME, UH, DIRECTION AND SOME CONSENSUS FROM YOU ALL.
WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR TAX ABATEMENTS.
WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR TAX BREAKS FOR THIS PROJECT.
I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES CITIZENS SEE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN AND THINK OF TAX BREAKS.
THERE'S NO TAX BREAKS FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TONIGHT IS TO REACH A GENERAL CONSENSUS ABOUT A DIRECTION TO STAFF FOR HOW WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THIS PROJECT.
AFTER MUCH TIME AND CHANGES IN CITY ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL AND CHANGES IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, THERE'S SOME DANGERS THAT THIS PROJECT COULD LANGUISH.
SO WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT, UH, WHETHER YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE DIRECTION AND AT LEAST THE CONCEPT SO THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH, UH, PI AND TURS NEGOTIATIONS IN DETAIL WITH YOUR STAFF, WORK UP PARK DEDICATIONS AND LICENSE AGREEMENTS, THE ACTUAL LEGAL DOCUMENTS, THEN COME BACK TO YOU WITH A FINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE YOU ALL WOULD GET A, A FINAL SAY.
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WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF ALREADY.YOU'VE HAD OUR TERM SHEETS FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.
UH, THEY'VE, THEY NEED TO VARY AND BE UPDATED A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE REALLY NEED, UH, SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT AND SOME CONFIRMATION THAT IN FACT, WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND I WOULD JUST CLOSE BY SAYING THIS IS, THIS IS A PASSION PROJECT FOR US.
IT REALLY IS A LEGACY PROJECT.
ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES IN GAP STRATEGIES WHO IS A FORMER CITY MANAGER, WHEN WE MEET WITH, WITH CITIES ABOUT THEIR LONG-TERM VISION, HE SAYS TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUR LEGACY TO BE? AND IN MY FAMILY, WE'VE DECIDED WE WANT THIS TO BE OUR LEGACY.
UM, WE THINK IT MEETS YOUR VISION AS WELL.
WE HOPE YOU WANT TO SHARE THAT VISION AND THAT LEGACY, UM, AND LEAVE SOMETHING TO THE CITIZENS OF KYLE IN THE FUTURE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE, UH, IN SUPPORT.
WE HAVE OUR TEAM IN SUPPORT, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE, UH, INDIVIDUAL COMMENT FORMS FROM, UM, UH, 70 TO 80, UH, CALL CITIZENS OR CITIZENS OF THE ET J.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BARTON.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK? COUNCIL MEMBER, TOBIAS? OKAY.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND, AND YES, UH, WE HAVE VISITED BEFORE ON THIS AND, UH, I, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM GOING FORWARD WITH TRYING TO GET SOME OF THESE NUMBERS AND SPEAKING WITH STAFF IF THEY ARE, ARE, ARE UP TO IT TO WHERE WE CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON THIS.
AND, UH, I LIKE THAT THE IDEA OF THE FITNESS AREA.
I THINK WE KIND OF MENTIONED THAT BEFORE TO WHERE I THINK AS WE HAVE NEWER RESIDENTS COMING IN AND PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL HERE COULD BE A NEW WAY FOR SOME OF THE, UH, THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT AND ALSO CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE PARK DEDICATION.
UH, OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, KEL? ALL RIGHT.
YOU'VE REACHED OUT SEVERAL TIMES AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, OUR CONVERSATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN, I'M NOT A BIG SUPPORTER OF THIS BECOMING A TOURIST.
AND SO, UM, I WANNA JUST BRIEFLY DISCUSS THAT.
SO THE ROAD BOND THAT JUST PASSED, UM, HAS A PLANNED ROAD IMPROVEMENT ADJACENT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT ROAD UPGRADE WILL AFFECT THE VALUE OF THAT LAND? UH, I, I DON'T THINK IT HAS ANYTHING THAT'S ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO IT.
IT DOES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MARKET, MARKETPLACE.
THAT'S JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT ADJACENT THAT THAT'S, UH, A MILE OR TWO MILES NORTH.
SO I DO THINK THAT IS REALLY CRITICAL.
I THINK THAT HELPS EXPAND EVERYTHING, BUT I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, IT DOESN'T LARGELY AFFECT THE VALUE OF, OF OUR PROPERTY.
I, I DON'T THINK, OR AT LEAST I WOULDN'T SEE IT THAT WAY.
I THINK IT DOES PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE.
I THINK ANYTHING THAT MOVES TRAFFIC WELL IN THE CITY HELPS EVERYONE AND FLOATS ALL BOATS.
BUT THAT IS THROUGH THE NEXT INTERSECTION ON THE, YOU KNOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HE HEB AND WE'RE ON THE, THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HE HEB, SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT US DIRECTLY.
UM, HOW MANY HOMES ARE ON THIS LAND? UH, RIGHT NOW THERE'S ABOUT FIVE OR GIVE OR TAKE.
AND YOU SAID THEY WERE ALL, THEY'RE ALL BLIGHTED? NO, UM, VERY SPECIFICALLY, WHEN THE CITY CLOSED OFF THE ROAD, ONE OF THE HOUSES, UH, WE BEGAN TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH VAGRANTS THERE.
AND, UH, SOME PEOPLE INGESTING UNUSUAL SUBSTANCES.
AND SO ONE OF THOSE HOUSES BURNED DOWN, UH, WAS BURNED DOWN BY SOMEBODY WHO STARTED A FIRE IN IT.
SOMEBODY, THE ADJOINING PROPERTY HAS SOME THAT, UH, ACTUALLY IS ADJACENT TO US, HAS, FOR INSTANCE, A HOUSE THAT'S BEEN, UH, VACANT FOR SOME TIME.
SO AS I THINK YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER, UNDER THE STATE LAW DEFINITION BEEN DEVELOPED BY THE AGS OFFICER, AT LEAST IT'S BEEN USED BY DIFFERENT CITIES ACROSS THE STATE.
UM, BLIGHT CAN REFER TO, FOR EXAMPLE, A CLOSED ROAD OR INSUFFICIENT ROADS AND, UH, SIDEWALKS IN AN AREA AS WELL AS UNDEVELOPED CREEKS, UM, AND, UH, ABANDONED HOMES OR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.
AND YOUR DEVELOPMENT GOING HERE IS NOT GONNA OPEN UP THAT ROAD, CORRECT? OFF OF 35? UH, NO, IT WOULDN'T.
UM, AND SO HOW MANY HOMES ARE NEAR THIS LAND OFF, OFF THE PROPERTY? UM, TWO, PERHAPS THREE.
AND THEN, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS GONNA BE FOR STAFF.
UM, WHY IS THAT ROAD CLOSED? IS JERRY OR LEON? LEON CAN PROBABLY PROVIDE A BETTER ANSWER, BUT THAT ROAD IS CLOSED ONCE WE OPENED UP MARKETPLACE.
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A BETTER ANSWER GETTING COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR LEON BARBER, CITY ENGINEER.YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DATA IN THERE AT BURLESON STREET? YES.
WE HAVE THAT LOW WATER CROSSING THERE THAT GOES ON OVER AT A ROUTINE OF JUST A SMALL EVENT RAINFALL THAT'LL GO OVER.
THAT'S THE REASON WE CLOSED IT OFF.
UM, COUNCIL ARE JUST FOLLOW UP.
WE, WE UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITY CLOSED WE'RE, WE WERE NOT REALLY OBJECTING THAT WE WERE ALREADY DEVELOPING OUR PLANS, BUT WE'VE COOPERATED WITH THAT CLOSING.
I THINK THAT THE ISSUE IS NOT THAT THE PROJECT WOULD OPEN IT UP, IT'S THE ISSUE.
THE PROJECT WOULD OPEN UP OTHER AVENUES FOR TRANSPORTATION AND DEVELOP THE LAND, WHICH IS DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND I'M NOT AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK IT'S A NICE DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, FOR ME WORTHY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK LEON.
UH, AND SO EVERYBODY ELSE COULD HEAR WHY THAT ROAD WAS CLOSED IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A FLOODING ISSUE OVER THERE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, MY QUESTION WOULD BE PROBABLY TO MARIANA.
UM, WHEN WE TAKE OVER THIS AREA AND IT'S GONNA BE A CITY PARK, UH, KNOWING THAT THAT IS A FLOOD AREA, WHERE ARE THERE GONNA BE ANY LONG TERM EXPENSES OR, UM, CONCERNS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE WITH THE FLOODING IN THAT AREA THAT THE CITY IS NOW GONNA BE OBLIGATED TO TAKE OVER? MAYOR COUNCIL, MAD ESPINOZA PARKS, IMMIGRATION DIRECTOR.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY MAINTAINING THAT TRIANGLE AREA, SO STAFF KNOWS WHEN IT DOES FLOOD AND WE'RE ALREADY PREPARED TO TAKE THAT OVER.
THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ALSO FOR JERRY.
THIS WAS NOT UNDER, IT JUST SAID A DISCUSSION, RIGHT? NOT DISCUSSION.
IT WAS JUST, UM, PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, PAIGE OR JERRY, CAN WE TAKE ACTION IF IT'S JUST UNDER PRESENTATION? THIS ITEM WAS NOT POSTED FOR ANY ACTION.
AND, AND COUNCILMAN, TO BE CLEAR, WE RECOGNIZE WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR VOTE TONIGHT.
UH, WE THINK THERE'S NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF DETAILS.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IS TO GET SOME SENSE OF THE COUNCIL FOR WHERE WE ARE.
WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY ON IT.
UM, WE THINK IT'S A, WE THINK IT HAS GREAT VISION.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AGREE WITH US, RECOGNIZE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE TOURS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME SENSE IS WHETHER WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD.
I I, I HEARD YOU SAY TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION, BUT WE, WE CAN'T DO THAT IF IT'S JUST UNDER A PRESENTATION.
WELL, IT'S THE, THE ITEMS LISTED UNDER CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION AS A PRESENTATION UNDER CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION.
EVEN THOUGH YOU MOVED IT TO PRESENTATION, IT, IT STILL BE, COULD BE THE CASE THAT WE COULD GIVE DIRECTION OR TAKE VOTES, BUT WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS VOTE ON AN ORDINANCE.
WE CAN'T VOTE ON AURS OR A PI BECAUSE THOSE ITEMS AREN'T LISTED.
IT'S JUST GENERAL DIRECTION THAT WE CAN GOTCHA.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH ME AND LISTENING TO, UH, SOME OF MY FEEDBACK.
THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IS IF YOU CAN REALLY ACCOMMODATE A COMMUNITY GARDEN SOMEWHERE IN THERE, I THINK THAT WILL, THE CITY WILL BENEFIT FROM THAT.
UM, THAT WILL BE MY NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU ADDRESSED YESTERDAY AND IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER'S PURCHASING THE LAND NEXT TO IT WILL DEVELOP AND CONTINUE THE KIND OF ARCHITECTURE THAT YOU'RE GOING FOR.
UM, THAT WILL BE MY, MY REQUEST.
AND ACTUALLY, UH, I, I SAW OUR ARCHITECT SMILE BECAUSE COMMUNITY GARDENS ARE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, MY MOTHERS ALSO TALKED ABOUT.
SO WE HAVEN'T FOUND QUITE THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT IT IN, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY A GOAL OF OURS.
AND WE DO PLAN TO HAVE, WE HAVE DETAILED DESIGN GUIDELINES, 90 PAGES LONG, THAT WILL HELP ENSURE THAT WHOEVER COMES IN SHARES THAT VISION.
WE'RE GLAD TO MAKE THOSE A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO THE CITY HAS SOME ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY THERE AS WELL.
UH, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK? UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I'VE BEEN A PART OF A LOT OF THOSE MEETINGS, SO, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, I'VE SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, I'VE PARTICIPATED IN MEETINGS WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL, AND AT THE TIME THAT THOSE MEETINGS TOOK PLACE, THE COUNTY, UH, UH, COMMUNICATED THEIR INTEREST IN PARTNERING WITH US TO BRING THIS PROJECT TO LIFE.
UH, FOR ME, EXPANDING OUR PARK SYSTEM IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
AND THEN ALSO CREATING UNIQUE SPACES, IT SEEMS LIKE MORE AND MORE AS DEVELOPMENT COMES TO THE CITY OF KYLE, WE SEE THE SAME PROPOSALS OVER AND OVER.
UH, AGAIN, AND THIS IS DEFINITELY UNIQUE.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF ALSO, I, YOU KNOW, I GIVE, UH, THE, THE BARTON FAMILY A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THE WORK THEY'VE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO, AS IT SPECIFICALLY RELATES TO THIS PROJECT, UH, I CONSIDER THE, THE, UH, I GUESS THE WORD BARTON BUILDING.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S CALLED.
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MANY, MANY YEARS.UH, SO TO ME, WHEN I KNOW THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT THAT, UH, IS NOT JUST A BUY AND MAKE MONEY AND SELL PROJECT, BUT IS RATHER, UH, LAND THAT YOU'VE KNOWN FOR.
HOW LONG, HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN THAT LAND? YEAH.
UH, I, I ALWAYS FIND THAT FOLKS WHO ARE VESTED IN THAT WAY, UH, BUILD GREAT PROJECTS.
SO NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE TRACK RECORD, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE ALL THE INCENTIVE IN THE WORLD TO CREATE A PROJECT THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE PROUD OF.
AND SO FOR MYSELF, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE, SO THE, THE SPECIFIC, UH, PITS OVERLAY THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, ESPECIALLY WITH COUNTY SUPPORT, UH, IT REALLY IS LIGHT ON THE, THE DEMAND THAT IT PLACES ON THE CITY AND HEAVY ON THE AMENITIES AND QUALITY OF LIFE THAT IT BRINGS.
UH, NOT ONLY TRUE LOCAL SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS WHERE YOU HAVE TABLE SERVICE AND, AND SOME PRETTY MUCH REGIONALLY ACCEPTED DELICIOUS FOOD, UH, BUT ALSO CENTURY OLD, UH, LEGACY TREES, UH, OLD AND LEGACY HOMES, UH, ON THE SITE THAT WILL BE RESTORED AND NOT BULLDOZED.
UH, THIS IS, UH, A LOT OF TIME AND THOUGHT AND ENERGY.
SO, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, UH, YOU, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE MY SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT AS YOU, AS YOU ALWAYS HAVE, BUT IT'S FOR ALL THOSE REASONS.
SO IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR MY FEEDBACK, IT'S THE SAME AS THAT.
BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT COUNCIL HAS CHANGED MANY TIMES OVER.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S TOUGH.
I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE KIND OF GOTTEN CAUGHT UP IN THE WASH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, IT'S, Y'ALL HAVE KIND OF GONE THROUGH YOUR, UH, ISSUES AS WELL.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY FEEDBACK.
SO I, I SUPPORT THE PI, UH, AND THE TOURS OVERLAY AS, AS IT'S BEING PROPOSED AND WOULD PERSONALLY LOVE TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO HAVE YOU COME BACK WITH THAT, UH, PROPOSAL AND TO GIVE STAFF THE DIRECTION TO, YOU KNOW, TO BRING THAT FORWARD.
UH, THAT'S, THOSE, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
BUT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF COUNCIL.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, SPEAK CUSTOMER, UM, MR. BART BARLETT.
SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE WILLINGNESS YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND TO STILL GO IF THIS MOVES FORWARD.
WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I CAN SEE YOU HAVE THE PASSION.
I DO LIKE TO SEE A LOCAL PUT THEIR OWN DOLLARS IN TO MAKE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL FOR THIS CITY.
I THINK THAT AREA DOES NEED SOME IMPROVEMENT WITH SOME DEVELOPMENTS.
AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION FLOODING, GIVING UP SOME OF THOSE PARKS AND YOU SPOKE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS OVER, AND THAT THIS IS A, UH, COULD BE A LOT OF TAX REVENUE FOR VERY FEW STREETS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
SO I'VE, I'VE, I HAVE THOSE THINGS IN CONSIDERATION.
AND, AND AS YOU KNOW, CHURCH DOLLARS, UM, THE CITY WOULD, WOULD, WOULD KEEP MOST OF THAT NEW REVENUE THAT'S BEING GENERATED.
AND, UH, SOME WOULD GO BACK FOR, FOR THE LIFE OF THESE BONDS TO HELP PAY THEM DOWN.
BUT WE WOULD STILL BE TAXING OURSELVES EXTRA THROUGH THE PI.
AND THE CITY IS NOT ON THE HOOK FOR ANY OF THOSE DOLLARS, EVEN IF OUR DEVELOPMENT WERE TO FAIL FOR SOME REASON.
I KNOW THAT YOU ALL KNOW THAT, BUT PEOPLE LISTENING DON'T ALWAYS REALIZE THAT.
WOULD THE TOURISTS BE ON THE HOOK? UH, THE CITY IS NOT ON THE HOOK IN ANY WAY.
WE HAVE TO PAY THE, BECAUSE IT'S A PI FIRST, THE PI HAS TO PAY THE MONEY, UM, NO MATTER, NO MATTER WHAT.
SO, SO IF A PI DOESN'T PAY IT, HANG ON.
YOU, YOU WEREN'T, I NEED TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHERS WHO WANNA SPEAK FIRST.
SO YOU WEREN'T RECOGNIZED, I APOLOGIZE.
SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET? LET ME ASK RICK ROSENBERG, WHO I THINK HELPED WRITE YOUR ORIGINAL P ORDINANCE, AND WHO THEN WE HIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE WORKING CORRECTLY WITH THE CITY TO ADDRESS THAT.
UH, MAYOR COUNCIL RICK ROSENBERG WITH A D P F G.
UH, GLAD TO BE BACK AS ALWAYS.
UM, THE WAY THE PROPOSED FINANCING STRUCTURE OPERATES IS THAT THE PIT IS ASSESSED AGAINST THE PROPERTY THAT IS AN OBLIGATION OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
IN THIS CASE, MR. BARTON AND HIS PARTNERS, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, THE TURS ONLY GENERATES MONEY IF DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
THE TES IS NOT AN ACTION ORIENTED ENTITY.
THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE GENERATED THROUGH THE TURS WOULD BE USED TO OFFSET SOME OF THE PI OBLIGATIONS.
NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT A PART OF THEM.
BUT IF THE PROJECT IS NOT SUCCESSFUL AND A PROJECT DOES NOT DEVELOP, THERE IS NO TOURIST REVENUE OR LESS TOURIST REVENUE.
SO IF THE PROJECT DOESN'T MEET ITS EXPECTATIONS, THE RISK REMAINS ON MR. BARTON.
AND, AND THE WORKPLACE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE TOURISTS IS THEIR OWN GENERATES FUNDS FROM INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY.
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YEAH, I, I GUESS THAT, THAT, THAT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE TAKEN MONEY OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND TO FUND A DETERS IN THIS CASE.THERE IS NO GENERAL FUND MONEY BEING UTILIZED IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.
THE DETERS THAT IS, IS CREATED HOPEFULLY WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY PARTICIPATION GENERATES MONEY FROM INCREMENTAL DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS, THERE IS NO UPFRONT MONEY FROM THE TURS AT ANY POINT IN THE PROCESS.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, IF I HAVE A FLOOR, CAN I, UM, I GUESS I CAN ASK IF PEREZ IS HERE, HOW THAT HAPPENS TO WHERE THE MONEY DOES COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? BECAUSE THERE ARE TIMES THAT I KNOW EVEN IN TES ONE, WE WERE PAYING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO FUND THE TES.
IN FACT, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR SINCE THE TES WAS CREATED.
THAT MONEY DID NOT COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
I'M, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARTICULAR PARTICULARS.
OBVIOUSLY, THE TAX REVENUE WILL GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN IS ALLOCATED TO THE TURS, AT WHICH POINT THEN IS USED TO OFFSET THE PI PAYMENTS.
SO IT GOES THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT CAN'T USE, IT CAN ONLY, THE MONEY GENERATED BY THE PROJECT ITSELF CAN BE UTILIZED.
YOU CAN'T USE ANY OTHER GENERAL FUND MONEY IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER FOR THIS PROJECT.
NOW I'VE LOST, I JUST WANNA SAY IN THAT SENSE, THERE'S, THE RISK IS ON US, NOT ON THE CITY.
THERE'S NO, IT DOESN'T, IT CAN'T COME AGAINST THE CITY'S, UM, FINANCIAL, UH, RECORD.
IT CAN'T COME AGAINST YOUR, YOUR BOND SCORE.
I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT, UM, YOU COULD ASK, UH, MR. MCCLINNEY FROM SAM, YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, AND MS. LEVY, YOUR BOND COUNSEL AS WELL, WHO CAN, WHO REPRESENT YOU.
OBVIOUSLY I REPRESENT MR. BARTON.
TRULY APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION.
UM, I GUESS ONE MORE QUESTION.
THE WAY YOU WANNA DO YOUR TURS IS BY, UH, OWNER COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY OPEN TO THAT, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER YOU WANNA SET THAT UP.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SIMPLER TO HAVE, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, UNDER THE LAW, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS YOU CAN ESTABLISH A DETERS TESS.
WERE, WERE SET UP SO THAT CITIES COULD CREATE ONE WITHOUT LANDOWNER CONSENT.
AND IN THAT CASE, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SEVERAL THINGS AND DECLARE A BLIGHTED AREA.
WE, WE, WE QUALIFY UNDER THE WAY THE ATTORNEY GENERALIST HISTORICALLY LOOKED AT THAT, OR AT LEAST MANY CITIES HAVE DONE THAT.
BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS SIMPLER JUST TO COME WITH THE LANDOWNER PETITION.
THE LAW REQUIRES THAT 51% OF THE LANDOWNERS IN THE AREA OF THE ASSESSED VALUE HAVE TO AGREE.
100% OF THE LANDOWNERS IN THE AREA AGREE IN OUR CASE.
SO WE JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS THE SIMPLEST WAY, BUT WE'RE GLAD TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON WHICHEVER WAY YOU FIND MOST CONDUCIVE.
YEAH, THAT OOPS, OFF, UM, THAT WAY IS KIND OF CONFUSING FOR ME.
AND I'M, I WOULD ONLY BE NERVOUS BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE NORMALLY DON'T AS WELL BE.
AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE OUR ATTORNEY TO DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT THAT WAY.
BUT IF YOU'RE OPEN, I MEAN, AGAIN, NOW THAT I HAVE THIS NEW INFORMATION, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.
I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO THINK IT OVER.
BUT OVERALL, AGAIN, I LIKE THE PROJECT.
I LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE TO BRING.
I'M JUST SAYING I HAVE A DEVELOPER OFF A 1 1 50 EAST THAT GETS NO TURS, AND THAT THAT AREA NEEDS THE RETAIL AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER PARK.
AND SO IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO JUST GIVE TURS AWAY WHEN I FEEL LIKE WE, I HAVE OTHER PEOPLE NOT ASKING FOR IT.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND, AND I, I I WOULD SAY TO YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS PROJECT WON'T HAPPEN, PERIOD, WITHOUT SOME KIND OF PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR CITY DOLLARS, BUT WE ARE ASKING THE CITY TO LET US CREATE DOLLARS AND THEN SHARE SOME OF THAT BACK.
AND WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS YOU SEE.
UM, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF SCALE, WE DON'T HAVE HUNDREDS OF ACRES OF WHAT I'LL CALL SPRAWL TO SPREAD THAT OVER.
UM, IT'S, WE ARE CREATING VERY COMPACT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IN TURN HELPS YOU PAY YOUR BILLS BECAUSE YOU HAVE FEWER COSTS, FEWER MAINTENANCE COSTS ON FEWER MILES OR LINEAR FEET OF ROADS AND MORE TAX VALUE IN IT.
THAT'S WHY SO MANY, UM, LEADING CITIES ARE GOING AFTER THEM.
AND USING TURNS IS TO HELP CREATE THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFFSITE.
WE'RE GONNA BUILD A PARK THAT WE WON'T OWN, AND WE CAN'T SELL THAT LAND.
WE CAN'T DO, WHAT MANY PEOPLE DO IS SELL DOWN TO THAT CREEK FRONT AND GET A PREMIUM DOLLAR FOR THAT LAND WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO SIT THEIR TOES IN THE CREEK ON THEIR OWN LAND.
WE'RE GIVING THAT TO THE CITY AS A PUBLIC PARK.
WE'RE NOT ONLY GIVING IT TO THE CITY AS A PUBLIC PARK, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE SAVING THE, WE'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO, UM, REINVIGORATE IT TO IMPROVE THE CREEK, TO PUT PARKS IMPROVEMENTS ON THERE THAT THE CITY HAS ASKED US FOR WITH THE OUTDOOR FITNESS CENTER, WITH THE CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND.
AND THEN WE ARE FIXING BURLESON STREET, UH, IMPROVING IT, PUTTING PARKING UP AND DOWN BURLESON STREET THAT'S HEADING PARKING AND DOING OFFSITE PARKING FOR THE PARK ITSELF.
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AND, AND ANOTHER LANDOWNER THERE.BUT THAT WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR, WE'RE GONNA EXTEND THE VIBE TRAIL OFF OF OUR PROPERTY TO GET IT TO I 35, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THE SAME CONNECTIONS YOU DO, COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THIS CITY, UM, PHYSICALLY AND METAPHORICALLY, HE NEEDS TO BE MORE UNITED.
AND THAT I 35, WHILE BRINGING MANY GREAT THINGS, HAS DIVIDED OUR CITY IN SOME UNFORTUNATE WAYS.
WE'VE SEEN WHAT I 35 DOES IN TERMS OF SEPARATING EAST AND WEST.
ONE WAY TO START BUILDING THOSE CONNECTIONS IS TO HAVE THESE KINDS OF TRAILS THAT Y'ALL HAVE LED ON.
BUT YOU'RE ASKING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO STEP UP.
WE'RE TRYING NOT TO JUST DO OUR SHARE, BUT TO DO MORE THAN OUR FAIR SHARE, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN YOUR VISION.
BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND, FOR MITER, YOU TAKE THAT MONEY STAYS WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.
AND SO THEREFORE IT TAKES MONEY AWAY FROM OUR CITY.
IT STAYS WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.
BUT AS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AS A PARK THAT PEOPLE CAN GET TO FROM THE EAST AND WEST, IT'LL BE THE ONLY PARK THAT IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE DEAD.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND I GUESS, GUESS, I THINK I HEAR SOME GENERAL CONSENSUS ON THE COUNCIL.
WILL THAT BE THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH YOUR CONSULTANTS TO TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL? UH, FOR THOSE AT HOME WHO MAY BE WATCHING, WE, WE PAY FOR THAT.
AND IN CHURCH FEE, WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN YOU $25,000 COVER STAFF TIME.
WE'LL BE PAYING MORE TO COVER YOUR STAFF TIME TO HELP WORK ON THIS.
UH, UM, DOES, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL FEE IS FOR TE'S APPLICATION PETITION ISSUED $25,000 UP FRONT AND THEN $50,000 LATER ON? YEAH, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE HIM MORE CLEAR DIRECTION, UH, AND TO GIVE STAFF CLEAR DIRECTION.
UH, WHETHER IT GOES UP OR DOWN WOULD BE THE DIRECTION THAT, THAT YOU WOULD RECEIVE.
SO THE, THE MOTION I'D LIKE TO, TO GIVE WOULD BE TO DIRECT STAFF.
NO, I WAS JUST CONFIRMING WITH HER THAT WE CAN MAKE A MOTION.
SO TO, UM, UH, TO, TO, TO DIRECT STAFF, TO BRING BACK A PI, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, AS HAS BEEN, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES OUTLINED BY MR. BARTON, UH, UH, TO STAFF AND, AND TO DIRECT THOSE RESOURCES, UM, TO BRING THAT PROPOSAL BACK, UH, UH, EXPEDITIOUSLY.
IT'S MOTIONED BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? YEAH.
CAN I ASK WHY IT'S BEING EXPEDITED? I'M SORRY.
YOU, YOU, YOU PUT IN THE WORD EXPEDITIOUSLY.
SO YOU WANT TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.
EXPEDITIOUSLY HAS NO LEGAL MEANING.
IT'S JUST GENERAL DIRECTION FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH MR. BARTON AND BRING IT BACK.
NO, EXPEDITIOUSLY DOES HAVE A DEFINITION, AND IT MEANS TO EXPEDITE.
AND WE HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN WAITING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EXPEDITE ANY PROJECTS.
I, I WON'T WEIGH IN ON WHETHER YOU SHOULD EXPEDITE, I WILL SAY THAT I THINK WE'RE IN THE FRONT OF ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE CITY, UH, BECAUSE, BUT WE, WE FILED WITH THE CITY IN 2018.
SO I, IT'S JUST, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR IN THE MOTION.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT JUMPING ANY HOOPS.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT LETTING STAFF KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT MATTERS.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I THINK WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT HERE, MAYOR, IF I MAY ASK, IS THAT, UM, THERE, THERE, THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE PENDING.
WE DO HAVE A PARTICULAR LANDOWNER THAT HAS BEEN WAITING, UH, FOR A WHILE.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT, FOR COUNCIL MEMBER FOR SCALE IS STATING.
BUT I GUESS IN THE SENSE HERE, UH, THERE HAS TO BE A DIRECTION AS FAR AS, I DON'T WANNA SAY WHO'S NEXT IN LINE THAT GETS THE ATTENTION OF THE CITY, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT THERE.
BUT, BUT IT, IT IS, IT IS TRUE.
WE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY EQUALLY, UH, LOOK AT ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING FAR, UH, FORWARD, UM, AND GIVING EACH AND EVERYBODY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING AT, UH, MAYOR, IS THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHETHER IT'S THIS STARTED IN 2017, OR SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN SINCE 2020, WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE BE VERY FAIR ABOUT THE TIME THAT'S BEING GENERATED.
AND THEN I GUESS, I MEAN, MAYBE I'M WRONG WHEN WE'RE USING THAT WORD EXPEDITE.
UH, IT MAY LOOK LIKE FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT THIS IS MORE PRIORITY THAN THE OTHERS WHEN I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ALL ARE EQUAL IN THAT SENSE.
WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON, KEEPING ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS
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UP TO DATE.IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE THIS ATTENTION TO PROJECT A, PROJECT F NEEDS THE SAME AMOUNT OF ATTENTION GOING FORWARD.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA RESTATE YOUR MOTION.
SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO CREATE PI TES DOCUMENTS, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ALL OTHER ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES FROM MR. BARTON, AND TO BRING THAT BACK, UH, AS THEY ARE ABLE SECOND.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL THE OPPOSED COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, UH, THERE'S A LIST OF THE, UH, FOLKS WHO SIGNED IN SUPPORT.
NOW WE'RE GONNA GO BACK, WE'RE GONNA SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT.
[5. Native American Heritage Month Proclamation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
TO NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION.THIS IS WAS A REQUEST, UH, BY OUR PARKS BOARD AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND SOMETHING I'M HAPPY TO BRING FORWARD.
UH, WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE IS COMMITTED TO CULTURAL DIVERSITY DEMONSTRATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUPPORT OF DIVERSE PROGRAMS AND EVENTS.
AND WHEREAS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IS FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED, AND WHEREAS THERE ARE THREE FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES AND COMMUNITIES, AND FOUR STATE RECOGNIZED TRIBES AND COMMUNITIES LIVING IN TEXAS TODAY.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD SUPPORTS NATIVE AMERICAN, UH, MONTH EDUCATION IN OUR PARKS NOW, THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF COUNCIL, UH, THAT WE DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE NOVEMBER AS NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE, UH, MONTH.
AND I BELIEVE, UH, MARIANA IS HERE TO SAY A COUPLE WORDS.
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE COME HERE SPECIFICALLY TO RECEIVE THIS.
PRO PROCLAMATION MAYOR COUNSEL MARIA ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
SO WE HAD MR. DUMP, DUSTIN HAMPTON COME TO THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD WITH HIS PRESENTATION AND HOW WE CAN FURTHER RECOGNIZE NATIVE AMER NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND SPECIFICALLY IN OUR PARKS.
OUR PARKS IMMIGRATION BOARD DID MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO BRING A PROCLAMATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE HAVE VARIOUS, UM, RESIDENTS HERE THAT REPRESENT DIFFERENT NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE, UM, TRIBES HERE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.
UM, TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PROCLAMATION FORWARD.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAME, MR. HAMPTON HERE, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? NOT REQUIRED.
WELL, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL, I, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A, A PHOTOGRAPH WITH Y'ALL IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
PULL THIS BACK SO WE CAN CAPTURE EVERYONE.
I MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE Y'ALL SQUEEZE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD LAYER, YEAH, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE BETTER IF WE COULD PUT SOME OF THE SHORTER MEMBERS IN THE FRONT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO COVER THE FLAG
I CAN DEFINITELY TAKE THE PHOTO WITH THAT.
ON THE COUNT OF 3, 1, 2, 3, AND I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TAKE ONE WITH ONE OF Y'ALL'S PHONES ALSO ON THE COUNT OF THREE.
ACTUALLY, IF I MAY, MARIANA, I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION, MAYOR.
HOW MANY, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRIBES, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE IN KYLE THAT WE KNOW OF TO WHERE WE CAN MAYBE
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RECOGNIZE? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK MR. HAMPTON IF HE HAD A BETTER IDEA, BUT WE ARE, THE EDUCATION PIECE WE'VE BEEN GIVEN IS THREE, UM, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND FOUR NATIONALLY.IS THAT CORRECT? AND WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, MAYBE OUR ARTS COMMISSION AND OUR, UH, COULD MAYBE LOOK INTO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO WHERE MAYBE WE CAN, UH, WHETHER THERE'S ANY ART PIECES OR ANY KIND OF A HISTORY, UH, OF, OF OUR NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES HERE IN OUR CITY, WE CAN MAYBE RECOGNIZE EVEN MORE AND, AND CELEBRATE THAT.
[6.
Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager
- Veterans Day Parade Recap
- Santa's Arrival - Dec. 1
- Santa Rides in Kyle - Dec. 13-15
- 25 Days of Christmas - Dec. 1-25
- Downtown Master Plan Public Hearings
- Comprehensive Plan Update
- Police Employee Association
- Team Kyle Update
ITEM NUMBER SIX, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT FIRST.
MARIA SPINOSA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
AND TO GET US STARTED, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT ON SATURDAY FOR THE VETERANS DAY PARADE AND CELEBRATION.
UM, MARKET DAY KICKED OFF THE DAY, FOLLOWED BY THE PARADE AND CLOSED WITH MARKET DAY IN GRANT.
IF YOU COULD PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEO.
AND THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TO HELP US CELEBRATE OUR LOCAL VETERANS.
AND IN JUST TWO WEEKS, WE HAVE SANTA'S ARRIVAL.
SANTA CLAUS IS COMING TO TOWN ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 1ST.
UM, THE EVENT STARTS AT FOUR O'CLOCK WITH LOCAL AREA SCHOOL CHOIRS PERFORMING, AND THE TREE IS GOING TO GET LIT AT APPROXIMATELY 5:45 PM WITH MAYOR AND SANTA CLAUS FLIPPING THE SWITCH.
SO THAT'S ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 1ST.
UM, AND THEN SANTA WILL BE RIDING AROUND KYLE GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN ON DECEMBER 13TH.
HE WILL HIT THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN, DECEMBER 14TH, THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN, AND DECEMBER 15TH, THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.
AND ALL THE ROUTES AND MAPS ARE ON CITY OF KYLE.COM/SANTA.
UH, AND ALL MONTH OF DECEMBER, STARTING ON DECEMBER 1ST, UM, UNTIL THE 25TH, WE'LL HAVE PROGRAMMING AT MARY KAY HARSON PARK, UM, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, MUSIC MONDAYS, WE HAVE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
UM, TOY TUESDAY, YOU CAN DONATE TOYS FOR, UM, LOCAL CHARITIES.
UM, WINTER WONDERLAND WEDNESDAY, WE'LL HAVE THE SNOW MACHINE OUT THERE.
UM, WELL, THURSDAYS AND FRIDAYS, FE OF FRIDAYS ARE BOTH A MIXTURE OF ENTERTAINMENT ON BOTH DAYS.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST WEEK OF DECEMBER, THE LIGHTS WILL BE ON, UM, FOR EVERYONE JUST TO WALK AROUND AND ENJOY.
BUT THEY'LL BE PROGRAMMING THAT WEEK.
WELL, ATKINSON PLANNING DIRECTORS NEXT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL WILL ATKINSON DIRECTOR.
UH, WE HAVE A FEW, UH, SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARINGS COMING UP FOR OUR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN ADOPTION, UH, THIS
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THURSDAY, UM, ON NOVEMBER 17TH, HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT SIX 30.UH, WE'LL HAVE A HALF HOUR MEETING SIMPLY TO PRO HA TO LET THE, UH, THE CITIZENS PROVIDE INPUT INTO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANNING.
IT WILL NOT BE AN ACTION ITEM FOR PZ.
THEY ARE JUST GOING TO LISTEN ON THE 29TH, WHICH IS THE FIFTH TUESDAY OF THIS MONTH, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY, UH, CONSIDER THE ITEM AND DISCUSS IT AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND COORDINATE WITH STAFF AND ALSO THE RESIDENTS.
UH, Y'ALL WILL SEE THE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN ON DECEMBER THE SIXTH, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE IT ADOPTED AS WELL.
UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, UH, WITH B GK ARCHITECTS WHO'VE BEEN CONTRACTED IN DESIGNING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND WE, IT GETS A VERY, VERY WELL-ROUNDED, VERY PUT TOGETHER, VERY AWESOME PLAN.
SO WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT.
UH, WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
UH, WE WERE AT THE, UH, VETERAN'S DAY PARADE AND KYLE MARKET DAY EVENT THIS SATURDAY.
WE MYSELF, UH, ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER AND THEN A COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING ZONE COMMISSION WE TALKED TO AND PASSED OUT ABOUT 200 FLYERS AND COORDINATED SURVEYS ON SITE.
UM, WE WILL BE AT SANTA'S ARRIVAL ON DECEMBER 1ST FROM 4:00 PM TO 9:00 PM FOR THE SAME REASON.
WE ALSO, ON DECEMBER 10TH, HAVE A COCOA AND COP PLAN, UM, PUBLIC INPUT MEETING FROM 9:00 AM TO 12:00 PM AT THE PUBLIC WORKS TRAINING ROOM.
ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE COORDINATING WITH HAY, C I S, WITH HAY, C I S D TO INCLUDE INFO IN SCHOOL NEWSLETTERS, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH, UH, UM, THROUGH EMAIL OR IN PERSON BAG STUFFERS, WHAT HAVE YOU.
WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THOSE.
WE WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
UM, FOR ONLINE SURVEYS, WE'VE JUMPED FROM 25 TO 184 INDIVIDUAL SURVEY RESPONSES BETWEEN THE FIRST TIME WE HAD AN EVENT TO NOW, AND THAT'S GONNA JUST KEEP GOING UP.
UH, AND WE'VE, UM, WE'VE, UH, PASSED OUT APPROXIMATELY 1100 CARS FROM MODING KYLE 20 THREE.COM.
AND THEN THE CURRENT SURVEY WILL RUN THROUGH DECEMBER THE 30TH.
I AM HERE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEWEST K L E A, THE KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.
I SENT HIM HOME ABOUT 15 MINUTES AGO BECAUSE HE WAS ON HOUR 14 OF WORK TODAY, SO I NEEDED HIM TO GET HOME AND GET SOME REST.
UM, BUT OFFICER MARK SPENCER, THE NEW PRESIDENT OF K L E A, HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY AND PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.
WE HIRED HIM FROM, UH, PREVIOUS WORK AT THE MCI NORFOLK, WHICH IS A MEDIUM SECURITY PRISON JUST OUTSIDE OF BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS.
HE HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE APRIL OF 2019, AND HE'S CURRENTLY SERVES AS ONE OF OUR FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS.
AND AGAIN, HE'S YOUR NEW K L E A PRESIDENT.
THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS STAYED THE SAME.
NOW IT'S MY TURN FOR THE RECORD.
JERRY HENDRICKSON, UM, CITY MANAGER.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO BRING RACHEL AND GRANT UP FROM OUT IN THE MAGIC ROOM BEHIND YOU TO TALK ABOUT THEIR GREATEST, UH, THEIR LATEST AWARD.
OUR COMMS TEAM WALKED AWAY FROM THET A T A CONFERENCE WITH FIVE AWARDS THIS YEAR.
THEY GOT WHERE IS GRANT, SORRY, DIDN'T DRAG ME OUT.
THIRD PLACE IN THE ETHNIC EXPERIENCE FOR IMPORTANCE OF HERITAGE AND AN HONORABLE MENTION IN INTERVIEW TALK.
WITH THE INTERVIEW WITH MATTIE WELCH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL AND AUDIENCE, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR COMMS TEAM, GRANT AND RACHEL AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON WORK.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT GRANT.
UM, THESE ARE ALL AWARDS THANKS TO HIS INCREDIBLE WORK FOR THE CITY.
UH, Y'ALL PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHO HE IS, BUT HE IS 90% OF THE TIME BEHIND A CAMERA OR IN THE AV ROOM BACK THERE.
BUT HE IS ALWAYS WORKING, HE'S ALWAYS COMING UP WITH GREAT IDEAS FOR VIDEOS.
UM, AND YEAH, WE COULDN'T BE AS GREAT OF A COMMS TEAM WITHOUT HIM.
AND IF YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING, YOU CAN, BUT IF YOU DON'T, I'M GOOD.
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MEMBER PARSLEY HAS SOMETHING FOR YOU.SO I DO HAVE TO SAY THOSE VIDEOS ARE PHENOMENAL.
THEY REALLY MAKE PEOPLE SMILE.
SOME OF THE VIDEOS I WATCH OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE ONE THAT YOU GUYS JUST POSTED ABOUT THE GREEN, I WAS SO EXCITED, YOU KNOW, CUZ I LOVE CHRISTMAS, BUT IT WAS JUST SO CATCHY AND FUN.
SO CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE JOB YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
AND SPEAKING OF, I ACCIDENTALLY FORGOT, I THINK WE WENT OUT OF ORDER A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SPEAKING OF IT, UH, CITY OF KYLE, UH, RACHEL SONIA, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE CITY OF KYLE'S OFFICIALLY UNDER GRINCH WATCH.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO COME OUT LAST THURSDAY, SO, UH, KEEP YOUR EYES, UH, APPEALED AROUND THE CITY OF KYLE.
UH, HE HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR GENERAL MISCHIEF, GENERAL, UH, YOU KNOW.
BUT, UH, LONG STORY SHORT, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOME MORE TIPS ON HOW TO KEEP YOUR FAMILY SAFE DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON, PLEASE GO TO CITY KYLE.COM/GRINCH WATCH.
AND PLEASE COME TO OUR SANTAS ARRIVAL IN DECEMBER 1ST, RIGHT NEXT TIME WE CONTINUE TO FILL VACANCIES IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, MR. CHRIS ARNOLD TO COME UP, INTRODUCE TO YOU OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.
CHRIS COMES TO US FROM THE CITY OF WICHITA FALLS, HAS OVER 26 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
HE'S IN WICHITA FALLS FOR OVER 26 YEARS.
HE STARTED IN 1996 AS A METER READER AND WORKED HIS WAY UP THROUGH THE RANKS TO BECOME A DIVISION HEAD FOR THE WATER DISTRIBUTION.
HE HAS A CLASS P LICENSE FROM THE TEXAS COMMISSION ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AS A MEMBER OF THE TEXAS WATER UTILITIES ASSOCIATION AND THE AMERICA WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, CHRIS ARNOLD, IS HE HERE? HE'S NOT HERE.
SO THIS IS WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE.
A BIG, UH, ANOTHER BIG PLUS FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND TEAM KYLE.
HE'S GONNA DO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS, THINGS FOR US HERE.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN, CYNTHIA GONZALEZ.
UM, CYNTHIA HAS A BA, A BACHELOR IN ARTS DEGREE FOR POLITICAL SCIENCE PRE-LAW.
WORKED AS A LEGAL SECRETARY FOR THREE YEARS IN THE TRAVIS COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFF DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND HAS OVER FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND RECEPTION AND FRONT DESK DUTIES.
SHE'S ALREADY HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING.
SHE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER GREAT ADDITION FOR TEAM KYLE AND AN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT DESPERATELY CAN USE SOME MORE HANDS ON DECK AND CONTINUE DOING THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY DO.
ALSO, WE, UH, INTRODUCE OUR PLANS EXAMINER PLANS EXAMINER GERMAN SAEZ.
HE'S A COMMERCIAL PLANS EXAMINER MOST EASY FROM THE CITY OF DE LEANDER CITY PARK WITH 19 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN BUILDING INSPECTIONS AS A GERMAN HERE.
NEXT UP I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU OUR NEWEST ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, CASEY VEO.
SHE'S A GRADUATE FROM TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY WITH A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN WILDLIFE BIOLOGY.
SPENT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WORKING FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND VOLUNTEERING FOR DUCKS AND LIMITED TO RAISE MONEY FOR WETLAND CONSERVATION.
WHAT SHE DOES, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HER HERE TOO, AND NOT HERE.
AND FILLING OUT OUR PARKS AND MAINTENANCE TECHNICIANS.
WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 NEW TECHNICIANS, JEREMIAH HERNANDEZ, JOHN GOODIER, ASHTON STRAUSSER, MATTHEW BOYD, AND RICHARD IBARRA.
YOU CAN LOOK INTO SLIDE AND SEE ALL THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BRING IT ON BOARD FOR OUR PARKS MAINTENANCE TEAMS, AND VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THEM AND OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT CONTINUE DOING THE CALL STANDARD WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
LAST OFF, I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT TOMORROW AND NOVEMBER 16TH, BETWEEN 11:30 AM AND 1:30 PM CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED FOR THAT TIME.
SO WE CAN HAVE OUR, OUR TEAM KYLE THANKSGIVING LUNCH TOGETHER.
AND WE APPRECIATE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY.
UM, I COULD SEE THAT THE ONES WE HIRED, LIKE MR. ARNOLD AND, UH, SCIENCES, WE'VE GOT YEARS OF EXPERIENCE COMING TO KYLE.
SO THAT TELLS YOU RIGHT THERE THAT SOME, SOME OF THESE NEW EMPLOYEES ARE COMING IN, BRINGING DIFFERENT KNOWLEDGE, DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES, I'M SURE, UH, HARPER BACK THERE IN THE BACK, YOU'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
I SEE THAT, UH, THIS IS 26 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE COMING TO WORKING IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S GONNA BE AWESOME BECAUSE THAT TELLS YOU RIGHT THERE THAT THIS, THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS SEEN PROBABLY HIS CITY GROW AND HAVE CHALLENGES AND OVERCOME THEM TO WHERE WE ARE BRINGING THAT TO OUR CITY.
AND, AND THAT'S GONNA REALLY BENEFIT TO WHERE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF KNOWLEDGE OR EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE THAT MAYBE WE HAVEN'T TAPPED ON, THAT
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WE CAN BE ABLE TO USE FROM THERE.SO CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM FOR BEING WITH YOUR TEAM.
AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE YEARS AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE COMING INTO OUR CITY TO BE, TO HELP US CONTINUE TO GROW.
EVERYTHING YOU SAID COUNCIL MEMBER IS TRUE.
AND I JUST WANNA THANK THE COUNCIL AGAIN FOR THEIR SUPPORT DURING A RECENT BUDGET PROCESS IN IMPROVING ALL THE, THE BENEFITS AND, AND PAY FOR OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES AND ALLOWING US TO REALLY RECRUIT THESE TYPE OF QUALITY INDIVIDUALS FOR TEAM KYLE.
[7. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
UP, C I P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION, MR. BARBA.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL LEON BARBA, CITY ENGINEER.
WE'LL START OFF WITH LAVE PARK.
UH, WE'RE 71% COMPLETE, UH, THE PLAYGROUND, PLAYGROUND BRIDGE FEATURES IN PROGRESS, THE WATER FEATURE EXCAVATION AND PLUMBING INSTALLS IN PROGRESS.
UH, THE PLAYGROUNDS, UH, NEARING COMPLETION, UH, SIDEWALKS AND HARDSCAPE IN HARDSCAPING IS ONGOING.
THEY'RE INSTALLING IRRIGATION AND CURBS FOR THE PLAYGROUND.
UH, THERE'S A FOOT AT THE NORTH AM THEATER THAT'S IN PROGRESS, UH, DECKING, ROOFING AND PLUMBING AT THE PAVILION.
AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE ELECTRICAL ROOFING AT THE, UH, FOR THE CONCRETE MASONRY UNIT AT THE PAVILION.
RESTROOMS, UH, THE REVISED PROJECTION AND SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE IS DECEMBER OF 2022.
AND ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, WE'RE ABOUT 62% COMPLETE.
UH, THEY'RE TAPING AND FLOATING OF THE LEVEL ONE AREA.
UH, THEY'RE AIR HANDLE, AIR HANDLER UNITS ARE BEING SET.
UH, CHILL WATER PIPING IS BEING INSTALLED FROM THE CHILLERS TO THE BUILDING.
UH, THEY'RE PAINTING THE ELECTRICAL AND THE, UH, MECHANICAL ROOMS. THE, UH, INSTALLING THE LIGHTWEIGHT CAST STONE CORNS AT THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THERE ARE, UH, FIELD BRICK MISSIONARIES BEING SET AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEY'RE SETTING THE MAIN SWITCHBOARD AT THE, UH, IN THE MAIN ELECTRICAL ROOM.
UH, THE MAIN ENTRY SOT IS ALSO BEING WORKED ON.
THEIR COMPLETION DATE IS FEBRUARY 6TH, 2023.
SOUTHSIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.
WE'RE STILL AT 94% ON THE, UH, PAY ESTIMATES, UH, CONTRACTORS COMPLETED THE WASTEWATER LINE.
UH, WE'RE, UH, WORKING ON ONE MORE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO INSTALL THERE FOR THE, UH, UH, PR THERE AT TDC.
UH, THE GRAVITY ENFORCE MAINS ARE BEING PRESSURED.
TESTED, UH, MANHOLE COATINGS ARE, ARE GOING TO BE, UH, OCCURRING.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO MORE MANHOLE TO CODE.
UH, WE DID USE SOME ADDITIONAL STABILIZED SAND, AND, UH, WE DID FIND SOME CONDITIONS UNSTABLE THERE.
WE DID HAVE A CHANGE ORDER RECENTLY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
UH, WE DID PLAN TO HAVE THAT STATION, UH, STATION UP, UH, UPLOADED AND GET IT READY TO RUN.
BUT WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE, THE ELECTRICAL ELECTRICAL SYSTEM ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION PROJECT.
UH, WE'RE AT THE DEWATER FACILITY IS 85% COMPLETE, I BELIEVE.
UH, WE JUST HAD A RECENT NOTICE THAT IT'S ABOUT 92% COMPLETE.
UH, WE ARE FINISHED WITH THE BULLSEYE PLANT.
UH, WE'RE EXPECTING TO, UH, HAVE SOME ISSUES AGAIN WITH SUPPLY CHAIN DELIVERIES.
UH, NOVEMBER OF 2022, LATER THIS MONTH.
WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT RESOLVED.
WE'LL SEE WITH THOSE, THAT EQUIPMENT COMES IN.
UH, THE P INSTALLATIONS COMPLETE.
UH, WE'RE SCHEDULING THE TRANSFORMER DELIVERY FOR THE POWER TO THE DEWATERING FACILITY.
THE ROADS CONTINUE TO BE WORKED ON IN THAT FACILITY, AND THEY'RE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT SECURITY FENCING.
AND, UM, WE DID PASS SOME RECENT AMENDMENTS TO THE CONTRACTS FOR BLACK AND VEACH TO CONTINUE THEIR WORK ON THAT PROJECT.
WE DO HAVE A MORE CURRENT ONE COMING UP LATER BASED ON THE PAY EXPENSE, WE'RE AT 74% COMPLETE.
UH, WE'RE REVIEWING THEIR LAST PAY APPLICATION.
UH, WE HAVE SOME ROAD CLOSURES IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTION.
UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE SLEDGE STREET RECONSTRUCTION.
RIBBON CURVES BEEN PLACED ON THIRD BETWEEN SCOTT STREET AND GRO STREET.
AND WE STILL HAVE SOME, UH, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENTS, AND WE'RE RESPONDING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
THESE ARE A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE ON THE UNDERGROUND, UH, PROJECT THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN.
MARY, YOU HAD ASKED THAT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, IF THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE READY BY DECEMBER.
UH, THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, WE'VE ALMOST HAD NO CONVERS COMMUNICATION WITH FRONTIER.
UH, WE DID SEND THEM AN EMAIL THIS YESTERDAY.
WE WERE TOLD WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UH, BEING COMPLETED ON TIME.
WE, UH, DROPPED A COUPLE OF NAMES TO GET THEIR ATTENTION.
THEY DID GET, THEY DID THE RESPOND.
THEY SAID THEY'RE GONNA GET BACK TO US WITH ANOTHER PLAN TO GET THIS THING MOVING AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN.
AND WE HAVE TWO WEEKS LEFT IN THIS MONTH.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE IT BY THEN.
WE FEEL THAT THEY CAN COMPLETE IT.
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AND, UH, P IS READY TO MOVE IN AND TAKE THE POLLS DOWN.AS SOON AS THOSE LINES ARE OFF, THE, UH, POLLS ON O POST ROAD, THE, UH, PAVING HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
AND, UH, THERE'S A FINAL LIFT REMAINING ON THAT.
AND THAT'LL, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE HELPING US WITH THAT.
AND WE ARE WORKING ON SOME DRAINAGE REVISIONS ON THE, UH, AREA IN FRONT OF THE LOWER CONCRETE COMPANY.
UH, BASED ON THESE ESTIMATES, WE'RE STILL ABOUT 13% COMPLETE.
THE WALLS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
THE BYPASS HAS BEEN, UH, ACTUALLY INSTALLED AND REMOVED, AND THE PIPE BURSTING WAS ALREADY COMPLETED.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SO THAT, UH, CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, LEON.
SEE, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL FORCE KILL.
THANK YOU, LEON, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME APPROXIMATELY FROM THE DATE OF THE GROUNDBREAKING UNTIL NOW, HOW LONG HAS THE SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER LINE TAKEN TO, TO INSTALL THE PROJECT'S? CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY STARTED IN DECEMBER OF 2018.
DECEMBER OF WHAT, WHAT WAS THE PROJECTED TIME OF COMPLETION? IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.
LEON, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.
THIS IS, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, I MEAN, WHAT DO WE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THIS MOVING? I KNOW EARLIER, YOU KNOW, MAYOR MITCHELL TALKED ABOUT SOMEBODY WAITING FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
I HAVE A LANDOWNER THAT HAS BEEN WAITING SINCE 20 15, 20 16 TO, TO HAVE THEIR DEVELOPMENT PUT IN.
BUT THEY CAN'T BECAUSE OF THIS WASTEWATER LINE.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS, THIS CAN'T GO ON LIKE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.
LIKE WHAT IS, WHAT IS ESTIMATED TIMEFRAME WE SHOULD BE COMPLETE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S THE GOAL THE CONTRACTORS SET FOR HIMSELF.
COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS PROJECT, UH, STARTED, ACTUALLY I RECEIVED 90, 90% PLANS IN 2013, DECEMBER OF 2013.
AND THEN IN 2014, EARLY IN THE YEAR, I, I GOT A CALL FROM STATESIDE RIGHT OF WAY SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE READY TO GET THE EASEMENTS.
THERE WERE OVER 20 EASEMENTS THAT I NEEDED TO HELP THEM ACQUIRE.
AND ALSO DURING THAT TIME, THE LIFT STATION THAT WE HAD PLANNED TO PUT AT A CERTAIN PROPERTY, UH, WAS, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PUT IT IN.
THE OWNER DID NOT WANNA WORK WITH US.
AND I LOST A YEAR THERE GETTING THAT LIFT STATION RELOCATED.
FORTUNATELY WE FOUND SOMEBODY WHO AGREED THE LIST WITH THE LIFT STATION ON THEIR PROPERTY THAT, UH, THEY DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
ONE OF THE DIRECTORS I WAS GIVEN BY THE PRE ONE OF THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS WAS TO, WE'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR ANY EASEMENTS.
AND THERE WERE TWO OWNERS THAT REALLY WANTED TO GET PAID FOR THEIR EASEMENTS.
WE ENDED UP PUTTING THOSE LINES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, TEXT DOT RIGHT OF WAY.
BUT BY THE TIME WE GOT THE PROJECT STARTED AND, AND, AND AWARDED THE CONTRACT AND GOT STARTED IN DECEMBER OF 2018, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE TELECOMS FIBER COMPANIES HAD BEEN ALL INSTALLED IN TEXT DOT RIGHT AWAY.
WE, WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO DO, UH, WHAT WE CALL SU SERVICES, SUBSURFACE UTILITY ENGINEERING.
BUT THAT WAS NOT IN THE BUDGET TO DO THAT.
UH, AND EVEN IF WE HAD LOCATED IT BEFORE THE CONTRACT WAS AWARDED, WE WOULD'VE HAD FOR TO WAIT FOR THEM TO MOVE OR WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE OWNERS AND GET, GET ON THEIR PROPERTY.
WE ENDED UP DOING THAT ON ONE OF THE OWNERS.
WE ENDED UP IN COMBINATION WITH THAT OWNER.
AND IN, IN THE MEANTIME, THE CONTRACTOR DOG HAD BEEN ASKED TO START THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE FACT WE DID NOT GIVE HIM A CLEAN PROJECT.
HE COULD NOT PUT THE NUMBER OF CREWS THAT HE NEEDED TO PUT ON THERE.
SO WE WERE KIND OF BETWEEN A ROCK AND HARD PLACE, LITERALLY.
AND THEN WE HAD MANY OTHER ISSUES ON THE PROJECT THAT CAME ALONG.
THE, UM, SECOND PROPERTY THAT WE COULDN'T GET A NEED FROM.
WE NEGOTIATED, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD SOME HUGE GIANT OAK TREES ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME WAS PUT IT BACK IN TEXT DOT RIGHT AWAY.
SO WITH 30 FOOT BETWEEN THE PAVEMENT AND THE FENCE, WE INSTALLED AN 18 INCH D IT'S ABOUT 18, 15, 18 FEET DEEP, 18 INCH WASTEWATER LINE.
AND WE PUT A 14 INCH, UH, FORCE MAIN ON TOP OF THAT.
UH, DON'T ASK HARPER IF HE LIKES IT CUZ HE DOESN'T LIKE IT.
AND SO WE ENDED UP HAVING TO TRY TO SQUEEZE THAT LINE IN THAT LAST SECTION RIGHT THERE BY EDWARDS DRIVE, WE ALSO ADDED A CHANGE ORDER FOR EDWARDS DRIVE.
THAT WAS ANOTHER 200,000 THAT WE ADDED TO THE PROJECT.
SO, UH, WE ENCOUNTERED, UH, VERY HARD ROCK AND A COUPLE OF SECTIONS, AS YOU KNOW.
AND I HAD TO CHANGE ORDER ON THAT.
SO THIS WAS A TOUGH PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING.
IF I HAD A PROBLEM, IF, IF I HAD TO IDENTIFY ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU CAN RUN INTO A WESTWATER LINE, WE HAD EVERY ONE OF 'EM.
UH, WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE, UH, THE SOILS THAT WE UNCOVERED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T TAKE ENOUGH CORES.
WE TOOK 'EM ABOUT EVERY THOUSAND FEET.
BUT THINGS CHANGED VERY QUICKLY UNDERGROUND, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO.
AND SO THERE WAS, THERE'S A LONG STORY, THERE WAS A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THIS PROJECT, AND IT WAS A LONG PROJECT.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED ABOUT $6 MILLION.
WE ENDED UP WITH ABOUT, UH, THE, WE HAD GOOD BIDS ABOUT THAT TIME.
WE HAD ABOUT ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILLION IS WHAT WAS BID ON THAT PROJECT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
AND WE'VE ADDED CHANGE ORDERS FOR ABOUT, UH, ALMOST 20%.
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HOW BIG THE PROJECT'S GOTTEN SINCE THAT TIME.AND THE MATERIAL PRICES HAVE GONE UP.
SO, BUT THE CONTRACTORS WORK WITH AND STAYED WITH US.
I APPRECIATE, AND I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO THROW YOU INTO THE GUN, I GET IT.
I JUST, THEY DON'T LIKE LONG PROJECTS.
WE CAN, WHATEVER I CAN DO, WHATEVER WE CAN DO, WE CAN SEND MAYOR MITCHELL AFTER THEM, FINISH IT UP.
WE JUST GOTTA DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S SLOWING DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT STATE AS WELL.
OH, IN THAT CASE THAT WORD MEANS SOMETHING.
I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION.
UM, AND GOSH, MY FINGERS ARE CROSS THAT WE CAN FINISH THIS YEAR.
SO THANK YOU LEON, FOR THE NEXT PLACE.
ONE MORE QUICK STORY ON, ON THE PLUS SIDE, THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT WAS PLANNED AND THERE WAS A HUGE, I MEAN, HUGE OAK TREE THAT WAS GONNA BE TAKEN OUT AS A RESULT OF THAT PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAD THESE DELAYS.
UH, THAT'S GOING TO BE CHANGED, WE HOPE IN THE NEAR FUTURES TO WHERE THAT HUGE OAK IS GONNA STAY THERE.
SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE SOMETIMES.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS HAPPY THAT WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO, THEY WERE NEVER ABLE TO START THAT PROJECT BECAUSE I HADN'T FINISHED THE WASTEWATER LINE.
SO SOMETIMES THERE'S, THERE'S A PLUS IN IT, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
NO, I WENT OUT THERE, I SAW THAT TREE.
THE FIRST THING I TOLD THAT GUY, I WAS LIKE, THAT TREE'S SO, SO BEAUTIFUL.
AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE HIM.
NOW BY RIGHT, HE CAN CUT IT DOWN, BUT HE SAID HE'S NOT GOING TO.
SO ALL THE MORE REASON THAT I JUST WANNA GET THIS DONE SO HE CAN BUILD.
BECAUSE WHAT I HATE TO SEE IS SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO DEVELOP, WHO CAN'T AND YET STILL HAS TO PAY FOR THAT LAND.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S NOTHING BUT A LIABILITY FOR THAT PERSON AT THE TIME.
SO THE TREES, HE SAID, HE ASSURED ME THE TREE'S GONNA STAY, UM, SO LONG AS CITY'S WILLING TO WORK WITH HIM.
AND SO FINGERS CROSSED THAT THAT ALL WORKS THROUGH.
BUT HE'S THE EXACT PERSON I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT HAS BEEN WAITING SO LONG.
UM, THE SECURITY FENCING AROUND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, LIKE, WHAT'S THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE IF IT, IT'S ALREADY GONE UP.
AND ALSO HOW DEEP, UM, BURIED ARE THE SEWER LINES THAT RUN TO THAT TREATMENT PLANT? BECAUSE WHEN I WALK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT THERE, SOMETIMES YOU CAN HEAR, UH, WATER, UH, LEAVING HOMES, UM, JUST THROUGH THE ECHOES OF THE, OF THE, UH, PIPES.
SO WHAT, COULD YOU GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE THINGS? THERE'S AN EXISTING 30 INCH LINE THAT'S LEADING TO THE PLANT.
AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THAT WAS THE ONLY LINE GOING TO THE PLANT.
IT WAS INSTALLED BY A PRIVATE, UH, CONTRACTOR.
UH, THAT CITY HAD A CONTRACT WITH, UH, THE FIRM TO INSTALL THE, THE, THE NEW WASTE WATER LINE AND THE, UH, INSTALL THOSE TWO, UH, CIRCUIT UH, PLANTS.
AND THE, UH, PLANS ARE TO REPLACE THAT WITH A 48 INCH FORCE MAIN THAT'S UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
UH, TO REPLACE THOSE TWO, THAT, THAT LINE FROM A 30 TO A 48, THEY'RE ROUGHLY 15 TO 20 FEET DEEP.
THEY'RE VERY DEEP AND, UH, IT'S, AND IT, AND ADDITION TO THAT, UH, GRAVITY LINE, THERE'S A FORCE MAIN IN THERE FOR THE, UH, UH, RECLAIMED WATER THAT WE SEND TO THE PLUM CREEK GOLF COURSE.
SO THERE'S AN EIGHT INCH LINE IN THERE.
WE ONLY HAVE 15 FEET OF, UH, RIGHT OF EASEMENT.
SO WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE EASEMENT AND WE'RE GONNA PUT IN A BIGGER LINE TO GO TO THE PLANT.
ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, WE RECENTLY COMPLETED THE BUNTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR.
THAT'S ABOUT A 42 INCH LINE THAT GOING IN ON THE, UH, I GUESS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PLANT.
SO THAT RELIEVED THE FLOW OFF THAT PARTICULAR LINE THAT THAT PARTICULAR LINE GETS A LOT OF INFLOW, UH, INTO THE PLANT.
SO WE'RE TREATING NOT ONLY WASTEWATER, BUT WE'RE TREATING, UH, RAINWATER, WHICH IS NOT A GOOD THING.
SO WE, THAT'S ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT INSTALLING THAT NEW LINE.
WE'RE GONNA HOPEFULLY CUT DOWN ON THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE ANSWERED ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S, YEAH.
AND THEN THE SECURITY FE AND AROUND, IS IT GONNA BE CHAIN LINK OR, UH, I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN BEEN OUT THERE TO SEE IT.
MS. HARPER'S BEEN OUT THERE TO SEE IT OR TIM'S BEEN OUT THERE TO SEE IT.
I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY CHAIN LINK WITH, UH, CONCERTINA WIRE ON TOP.
MAYBE THEY CAN CORRECT ME THOUGH.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT IS A SIX FOOT HURRICANE STYLE CHAIN LINK WITH THREE STRANDS OF BALL WIRE ON TOP.
WOULD THAT BE AROUND THE WHOLE PLANT OR IS IT ONLY WITHOUT AN ILLUSTRATION? IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE.
IT'S NOT AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
IT'S BASICALLY JUST DOING TO ENCOMPASS THE ASSISTING FACILITIES ALONG WITH THE NEW FACILITIES.
WITH, IN MY, WITH KEEPING IN MIND THE FUTURE EXPANSIONS THAT ARE GONNA OCCUR TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE TO HMM.
REBUILD A FENCE THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE NEW FACILITIES COMING IN.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF REGARDING THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALL RIGHT, NEXT
[VII. Consent Agenda]
UP IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WANNA PULL? MOTIONS?
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MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA'S ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 12.UH, MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KELLY, WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER EIGHT THROUGH 12.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL OF US IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[13. Conduct a public hearing on the Creation of a Reinvestment Zone and its benefits to the City of Kyle and to provide a reasonable opportunity for any owner of property within the proposed Reinvestment Zone to protest the inclusion of their property within the proposed Reinvestment Zone, which proposed zone consists of approximately 179.341 acres generally located east of Post Road and south of County Road 158, known as Limestone Creek. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, NOT AN ACTION ITEM.
UH, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CREATION OF REINVESTMENT ZONE AND ITS BENEFITS, UH, TO THE CITY OF COLLINS TO PROVIDE A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE PROPOSED REINVESTMENT ZONE TO PROTEST THE INCLUSION OF THEIR PROPERTY WITHIN THE PROPOSED REINVESTMENT ZONE, WHICH PROPOSED, UH, ZONE CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 179.341 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF POST ROAD AND SOUTH OF KEN ROAD, 1 58, KNOWN AS LIMESTONE CREEK.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
UH, I WAS, UH, TOLD THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THIS PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AS THEY CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF.
SO THERE'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SPEAK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND MOVE ON.
UH, NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, UH, CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON A, SORRY, 14 AND 15 ARE, UH, RELATED ITEMS, BUT, UH, IT'S CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION ON A QUOTE FROM OM JC SIGNAL FOR THE PURCHASE OF PORTABLE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE AMOUNT OF $331,600.
UH, AND THEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION RELATED TO ESTABLISHING THE CITY'S INTENT TO REIMBURSE ITSELF FOR THE PRIOR LAWFUL EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS RELATED TO CONSTRUCTING VARIOUS CITY IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE PROCEEDS OF TAX EXEMPTION, TAX EXEMPT OBLIGATIONS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY FOR AUTHORIZED PURPOSES.
MAYOR, MR. HENDRICKS CONS, TOBIAS, UH, WHERE WE GONNA MOVE? ITEM 26 FRONT.
YES, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA WAIT ON THOSE ITEMS. EVERYBODY JUST REAL QUICK.
[26. Discussion and possible action for renaming Art Commission to add Arts and Cultural Commission. ~ Michael Tobias, Council Member]
GONNA ACTUALLY BE, UH, AGENDA ITEM 26.UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR RENAMING ARTS COMMISSION AND ADD ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSIONS COMES FOR TOUS.
UH, YES, I HAD A, SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR ARTS COMMISSION CHAIRMAN AND UM, AS YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE WEATHER'S CHANGING OUT THERE, SO THAT MEANS THAT HOLIDAYS ARE COMING AND THAT MEANS THERE'S A NEW YEAR AROUND THE CORNER.
SO I THINK ALL OF US NEED TO GET READY FOR A NEW YEAR AHEAD OF US.
THAT INCLUDES GRANTS THAT ARE COMING AROUND THE CORNER STARTING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
SO WITH OUR CONVERSATION THAT I HAD, UH, UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET, UH, COUNCIL, UH, SUPPORT ON THIS.
WE HAVE THE ARTS COMMISSION THAT IS, UH, NEWLY FORMED THIS PAST YEAR.
AND SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT, UH, GETTING A PROPOSED NEW NAME.
THIS IS THE REASON WHY I'VE GOT THE BACKUP MATERIALS THERE.
ARTS, ALONG WITH THE WORD CULTURE, IS TO ENHANCE THE DESCRIPTION AND THE WORK OF THIS COMMISSION FOR THE CITY.
THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES SECTION FOR THE ART COMMISSIONS DESCRIBES ALREADY LISTS CULTURAL PROGRAMS IN BULLET THREE AND ALL ELSE.
I HAVE MS. WESTBROOKS, YOU CAN HELP EXPLAIN THAT AS WELL.
UH, I THINK MS. FOREST KA HAD A QUESTION ABOUT BULLET THREE, BUT WITH THE WORD AND ADDING CULTURAL IN THE TITLE, THE COMMISSION CAN BE REVIEWED FOR GRANT PROPOSALS THAT CATER TO CULTURAL PROGRAMS AT LOCAL AND STATE AND NATIONAL LEVELS.
THE CHANGE OF ART TO ARTS SUPPORTS THE EXPANDED VISION TO BE INCLUSIVE TO ALL ART MEDIUMS ARTS.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, OR WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS TO HAVE THE ARTS COMMISSION, ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION IS AS THE NEW PROPOSED NAME FOR THIS NEWLY FORMED COMMISSION.
AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE, UH, AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, NOT JUST FLAG, UM, ANY TYPES OF, UH, GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT IT WOULD ALSO HELP, UM, THESE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE AT AND SO FORTH.
CUZ OF COURSE, GRANT MONEY'S GONNA BE COMING SOON.
SO, UH, MISS WESTBROOK, WE WOULDN'T MIND.
UH, I'M GONNA HAVE HER COME UP AND ALSO HELP, UH, EXPLAIN, UH, THE REASONING FOR THE GRANT PROPOSALS BECAUSE IT CAN BE A LONG PROCESS, BUT IT COMES QUICK.
CITY COUNCIL, UH, VANESSA WESTBROOK AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE, UM, CITY OF CAL ART COMMISSION.
UM, AS COUNCILMAN TOBIAS HAS SAID, UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT CHANGING OUR NAME.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE CALLED ART COMMISSION, BUT ACTUALLY I WAS LOOKING IT UP AND THERE'S AN S ON IT IN SOME PLACES AND AN SNOT IN OTHER PLACES, SO, OH, I WENT OUT.
CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME?
UM, SO THE IDEA WAS THAT WE ADD S TO THE
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S TO ARTS, UM, IN THE IDEA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT VARIOUS MEDIUMS OF ART.UM, FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF OUR, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS IS A MASTER QUILTER, AND THE IDEA OF QUILTING FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF ARTS.
AND AS WE WERE LOOKING AT VARIOUS ASPECTS OF, OF ART, WE THOUGHT THAT ADDING THAT S GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A NET TO THROW OUT IN REGARDS TO, UH, THE VARIOUS TYPES OF, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT TO SEND TO YOU FOR APPROVAL AS THE YEAR, UH, PROGRESSES AS WELL AS YEARS PROGRESS.
NOW THE OTHER THING WAS THE IDEA OF CULTURAL.
UH, SO ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION IS WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND, AND THAT IS TO BRING IN THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S A CULTURAL ASPECT TO ART ALSO.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE, UM, ANY TYPE OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT COME OUR WAY.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENTS OF THE HUMANITIES, FOR INSTANCE, AND THEY HAVE GRANTS THAT ARE PROVIDED, UH, UNDER THE CATEGORY OF ARTS AND CULTURAL.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.
BUT THE OTHER THING TOO IS TO HAVE, UH, ENTITIES COME TO US, AND I ACTUALLY HAD A CALL FROM SOMEONE OVER THE PAST WEEK WHO SAID, UH, THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT A PROGRAM FROM A CULTURE PERSPECTIVE, THE GERMAN CULTURE, BUT DID THEY NEED TO COME TO US OR WHO EXACTLY DID THEY NEED TO GO TO? AND I WAS LIKE, OH, OKAY, WELL ANOTHER GOOD REASON FOR ADDING THAT WORD CULTURE, UH, TO OUR NAME.
AND WE WERE TOLD AS WE STARTED OFF THAT, AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DESCRIPTION OF OURSELVES, UH, THE JOB DESCRIPTION, AS WE LOOKED THROUGH THOSE, UM, DESCRIPTIONS, AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE, UH, CONTENT PROVIDED IN THAT DESCRIPTION, IF WE FELT A NEED FOR A CHANGE IN SOMETHING TO COME TO YOU AT ACTS, YOU KNOW, FOR IT.
AND SO THAT WAS LIKE OUR FIRST DECISION WAS TO DECIDE, UH, WHAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS.
AND WE SAID, LET'S EXPAND OUR NAME A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BETTER PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BE DOING FOR THE CITY.
AND THEN AS WE WERE READING THROUGH, UH, THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, WE NOTED THAT BULLET NUMBER THREE LITERALLY SAID CULTURAL PROGRAMS. AND WE SAID, OKAY, ANOTHER GOOD REASON WHY WE NEEDED TO EXPAND ON OUR NAME AND CHANGE OURSELVES TO BE THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
SO THAT'S SOME OF THE RATIONALE WHAT WE WERE THINKING AS WE WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU WITH THIS FIRST TASK QUESTIONS.
SO, SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING, UH, GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT, THAT WE COULD GO FOR AT THE LOCAL AND MAYBE AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, THAT WOULD REALLY HELP THE CITY OF KYLE OFFSET ANY KIND OF FUNDING THAT WE WOULD NEED FOR IF WE WANT TO DO SOME KIND OF PROGRAM.
OR MAYBE WE CAN ALSO PUT IT TO WHERE WE CAN ALSO HAVE SOME KIND OF EVENT.
SO IMAGINE THIS, IF WE GOT, LET'S SAY A 50,000 OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANTS THAT WE CAN USE TO BRING TO THE CITY AS FAR AS ANY KIND OF CULTURAL, WHAT IT'S RELATED TO MUSIC, RIGHT? SO IMAGINE JAZZ ON THE LAKE
SOME OF THAT MONEY COULD BE USED FOR, UH, BRINGING BANDS, BRINGING THE VENDORS, BRINGING THAT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS IS JUST ME BRAINSTORMING OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE HAVE THAT TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ANY KIND OF GENERAL FUND, WE COULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THAT GRANT MONEY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS.
SO, SO I'M JUST GONNA, JUST BRAINSTORMING IDEAS LIKE THAT.
AND ALSO TO BRING IN, INCORPORATE ALSO WITH THE NATIVE AMERICANS, UH, TRIBES THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE CAN BE ABLE TO MAYBE EXPAND THAT AS WELL.
IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET GRANT MONEY, WE CAN BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT AND, AND, AND BRING SOME MORE OF THE, UM, EXPOSURE AND THE CELEBRATION OF THE DIFFERENT CULTURES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY.
SO THAT IS KIND OF WHY, UH, I WANTED TO, UH, BRING THIS TO THE DIAS TO SEE IF WE COULD GET SUPPORT IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF CHANGING THE NAME, UH, TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
DOES, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO RENAMING THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMITTEE? THE ARTS COMMISSION TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE, UH, SO I'M ASSUMING THIS IS NOT POSTED AS AN ORDINANCE, SO IT STILL US TO COME BACK AS AN ORDINANCE.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE, RENAMING THE ARTS COMMISSION, UH, TO BE NAMED THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR IS TAKEN BY COUNCIL MAYOR FOR KEER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COUNCIL FORCE SCALE.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION OVERALL FOR,
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FOR JERRY.UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GRANT WRITING AND THEN CREATING GRANTS, DO WE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD DO OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD DO? COUNCIL MEMBER, WE DON'T HAVE A FULL TIME GRANT WRITER ON STAFF.
SO IT WOULD BE, UH, COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE, THE COMMITTEE AND THE STAFF.
AND YOU GUYS AREN'T, AND MIGHT NOT ADD THAT.
IT ACTUALLY SAYS IN OUR DESCRIPTION THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK OUT GRANTS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON WHO'S GONNA DO 'EM.
ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
SORRY AGAIN, I FORGOT TO BRING THAT ONE FORWARD.
[14. [Postponed 10/3/2022] Consider and possible action on a quote from OMJC Signal for the purchase of portable traffic signals in the amount of $331,600.00. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]
[15. [Postponed 10/3/2022] Consideration and Approval of a Resolution Relating to Establishing the City’s Intention to Reimburse itself for the Prior Lawful Expenditure of Funds Relating to Constructing Various City Improvements from the Proceeds of Tax-Exempt Obligations to be Issued by the City for Authorized Purposes; Authorizing Other Matters Incident and Related Thereto; and Providing an Effective Date. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP, City's Bond Counsel]
ITEMS NUMBER 14 AND 15.UH, BUT ONE IS TO SPEND 331,600, UH, FOR PORTABLE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND THE OTHERS A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT TO ALLOW US TO USE OUR, UM, GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROCEEDS TO BE REIMBURSED.
MR. HENDRICKS, MAYOR, COUNSEL, ONCE AGAIN, JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UH, AMBER'S NOT AVAILABLE TONIGHT, SO YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME.
UH, THIS IS, UH, ASKED TO BE BROUGHT BACK AFTER THE BONDS AFTER THE BOND ELECTION, ASSUMING THAT THEY PASSED, WHICH THEY DID.
AND THIS IS BRINGING THAT, UM, QUOTE BACK FOR FOUR SETS OF TWO TRAFFIC LIGHTS TO BE USED AT INTERSECTIONS THAT WILL BE PAID FOR WITH PROCEEDS FROM THE BOND.
I'D LIKE TO JUST REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT BEFORE THESE CAN BE USED, CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO BE MET, SUCH AS THE, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW FOR, FOR A COUPLE OF INTERSECTIONS OR DIRECTION FROM THE CITY ENGINEER, THAT THAT INTERSECTION NEEDS EMERGENCY TRAFFIC ASSISTANCE, BUT, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IS READY TO GO.
AND, UH, I DID ACTUALLY JUST WANT TO CLARIFY TO YOUR QUESTION.
SO IN THE EVENT THAT, LET'S SAY WE'RE, WE HAVE A ROAD THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND TRAFFIC IS BEING ROUTED TO CREATE UN MAYBE AN UNNECESSARY OR A, UM, INADEQUATE BURDEN UPON LIKE A FOUR WAY STOP SIGN, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO A TRAFFIC STUDY IN ORDER TO PUT THOSE OUT IN A PORTABLE 30 TO 60 DAY CAPACITY TO DEAL WITH A, FOR THE, FOR THE ROB BOND ROADS, THE TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE DONE AS PART OF THE PREPARATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
YES, I UNDERSTAND THESE WILL BE USED FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED UNDER THE ROAD BONDS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BELONG TO THE CITY.
SO THEY CAN BE USED FOR A, A, A WIDE VARIETY SPECIAL EVENTS, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO THE, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE TIMES ON THIS ITEM IS STILL LEFT IT A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR IN MY MIND AS TO WHETHER OR NOT JUST WHAT FLEXIBILITY WE WILL HAVE IF WE PURCHASE THESE.
I THINK IT'S SET UP FINANCIALLY WELL SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE MORE IMMEDIATE RELIEF, UH, TO TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
BUT I NEED, I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT ONE MORE TIME.
IF THERE'S, IF ROAD IS BEING, IF A ROAD IS BEING CONSTRUCTED OR THERE'S SOME ACCIDENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT SHUTS DOWN I 35 AND WE WANT TO GET THESE THINGS OUT TO HELP US TO ASSIST WITH DIRECTING TRAFFIC AT AN INTERSECTION FOR A DAY OR FOR MULTIPLE WEEKS EVEN, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT WITHOUT HIRING AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC? WE DO PAGE SIGNED CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD FOR A PERMANENT SIGNAL.
AN ENGINEERING STUDY IS REQUIRED FOR A TEMPORARY SIGNAL.
IT'S BASED ON ENGINEERING JUDGMENT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A DISTINCTION THERE UNDER THE TRAFFIC MANUALS AND THERE'S A DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT ENGINEERING JUDGMENT IS.
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO USE STAFF TO ENGAGE IN SOME OF THAT, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO KIND OF CONSULT WITH THEM ON THAT.
AND THEN MY QUESTION TO, TO LEON AND, AND OR HARPER OR WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER IS, UH, ARE THESE DEVICES SOMETHING YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN USE OVER THE NEXT MANY YEARS, UH, TO HELP WITH TRAFFIC ISSUES AS THEY ARRIVE? COME ON, LEON.
AND I, YEAH,
BUT THESE ACTUALLY ARE ITEMS THAT GIVEN THE PAST THAT YOU THINK LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE THEM IN OUR DAY TO DAY WORK.
MAYOR, ONE OF THE POSITIONS THAT, UH, COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THIS YEAR AS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER AT, AND WE'RE IN, IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIND A, A GOOD TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO WORK WITH US.
AND THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT CALL IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING PUT UP QUICKLY TEMPORARILY.
UH, SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO DO THAT IN HOUSE.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN ABOUT NEEDING TO PAY 20, 30, 40,000 FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY.
SO, NO, I'M MORE ON THE QUESTION OF IF WE PURCHASE THESE AND
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NOW THEY'RE IN OUR WAREHOUSE AND READY TO BE DEPLOYED, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU THINK THESE PORTABLE SIGNALS, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU'LL BE USING THEM ON A SEMI FREQUENT BASIS? ARE THERE TIMES WHEN YOU'RE GONNA NEED THEM AND THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE AND HELPFUL? WITH MY 13, 14 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN STREET MAINTENANCE, WE REALLY NEVER HAD A NEED FOR IT.BUT THEN THAT WASN'T IN MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO DEFER TO HARPER ON THAT ONE IF HE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO USE IT OR NOT.
IT'D BE A GOOD SITUATION FOR IT.
IS THIS SOMETHING Y'ALL WOULD DEPLOY OR WOULD IT HAVE TO BE COUNCIL BEGGING YOU TO GET IT OUT THERE? MAYOR COUNCIL, HARPER WILDER, POPE WORKS DIRECTOR.
SO IN 15 YEARS WE USED THEM ONE TIME.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, BUT WE CAN RENT 'EM.
WE COULD HAVE, WE HAD THE OPTION TO RENT.
SO AT THE SAME TIME THOUGH, THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THESE ROAD MINDS, IF THOSE STUDIES WERE DONE AHEAD OF TIME AND YOU WANTED TO USE 'EM IN THAT SYS TO DETOUR, YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY, THAT'S PROBABLY A GREAT IDEA.
I WORRY, UH, THAT THERE'LL BE AN INSTANCE LIKE YOU POINTED OUT EARLIER AND THEY'RE GONNA THINK, OH, WE'RE JUST GONNA RUN OUT HERE AND WE'RE GONNA PUT THESE TRAFFIC LIGHTS UP REAL QUICK.
UM, IF THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, IF AN ENGINEER, TRAFFIC ENGINEER STATES THAT WE CAN DO THAT DUE TO THAT EMERGENCY, THEN YES WE CAN.
BUT OTHERWISE YOU SHOULD DO THE STUDY.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS CLEAR TO EVERYBODY AND WHAT YOUR INTENT WAS, BUT COULD WE USE THEM IN THOSE CERTAIN SITUATIONS? YES, SIR.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THE EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE USED THAT LED TO THE DESIRE TO PURCHASE THESE PORTABLE SIGNALS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE INTERSECTION OF BUNTON AND LAYMAN, UH, AND THEN BUNTON, DAISY AND LAYMAN, DAISY AND LAYMAN, IT WAS THOSE PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS IN THE WAY THAT TRAFFIC WAS BACKING UP AT THOSE STOP SIGNS.
AND WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY OPTION, BUT WE KNEW IF WE HAD THE PORTABLE SIGNALS, THEY COULD GO OUT THERE AND HELP.
IS THIS A SCENARIO WHERE YOU WOULD'VE USED THOSE PORTABLE SIGNALS IF WE HAD HAD THEM? YES, SIR.
I YIELD THE FLOOR COUNCIL PARSLEY.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT, I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT IN 15 YEARS YOU HAVE USED THEM ONCE.
15 YEARS AGO, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE POPULATION OR THE NUMBER OF ROWS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO MASSIVE CONSTRUCTION FOR WHAT, THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SO I, I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF WE ARE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REROUTE TRAFFIC, I DON'T SEE HOW THOSE WOULD NOT BE BENEFICIAL.
IF IT'S A PLANNED, IF IT'S A PLANNED TYPE EVENT LIKE Y'ALL ARE TALKING, YES.
I THINK THEY CAN BE A BENEFIT.
AND IF I MIGHT ADD A PERFECT EXAMPLE WITH THOSE RENTED LIGHTS WAS DURING THE CETA RENTS CHAOS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THAT WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN TRAFFIC WAS SHUT DOWN AND PEOPLE WERE GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE, EVEN THROUGH STEEPLE CHASE AND SO FORTH.
LIKE IT JUST WAS CHAOTIC WHERE TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP ALL THE WAY.
SO IT TOOK A WHILE FOR THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS TO GO THROUGH.
PEOPLE WERE AGAINST IT ARGUING, BUT THEN IN TIME IT DID HELP WITH THE FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC ON THAT END, ESPECIALLY REDUCING THE SPEED, WHICH WAS THE CONTROL FROM THE BEGINNING.
SO I, I THINK WHAT, UH, MAYOR'S ALSO POINTING OUT TO WHERE IS IF WE DO HAVE AN EVENT THAT, UH, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TRAFFIC IN AND OUT, I CAN SEE IT NOW, LIKE SAY FOR EXAMPLE, SANTA CLAUS COMING TO RIVAL, SEE HOW EVERYBODY'S COMING TO DOWNTOWN AND HOW PACKED IT CAN GET, WHERE IF WE NEEDED TO SET 'EM UP OR WE CAN DIRECT TRAFFIC TO GO THROUGH THERE, OR WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION ZONE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT, WE CAN BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE ON A TEMPORARY BASIS.
BUT ALSO IF IN THE, THE EVENT THAT WHERE WE NEED TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY KIND OF EXIT IN AND OUT, LIKE THE MAYOR SAYS, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A STUDY FOR THAT? CORRECT.
OR CAN THESE ALREADY JUST BE IMPLEMENTED? BUT THEN AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE GOTTA ALSO HAVE THE ENGINEER'S OPINION, PROFESSIONAL OPINION, BECAUSE AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY RUNS A RED LIGHT, THEN THEY'LL SAY, WELL, THE CITY JUST PUT 'EM UP JUST, JUST FOR THE HECK, NOT JUST FOR THE HECK OF IT, BUT JUST TO ROUTE TRAFFIC.
IT'S, WAS IT LEGAL? BUT I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR ATTORNEY, BUT SHE, I CAN, I CAN ADDRESS.
SO THE, THE STANDARD IS IF IT'S A PERMANENT SIGN, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ENGINEERING STUDY.
IF IT'S A TEMPORARY SIGN, THEN IT'S BASED ON ENGINEERING JUDGMENT.
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THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER REVIEWS THE SITUATION, DECIDES ON THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES, WHETHER IT CAN BE PLACED AND PROMOTES PUBLIC SAFETY.AND IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT OR A TEMPORARY EVENT, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF, UH, SITUATIONS IN WHICH THE SIGN IS TEMPORARY AND CAN BE PLACED.
IF THE ENGINEERING JUDGMENT SUPPORTS IT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, BUNTON LAYMAN D AND BUNTON, IF THEY WERE TO GO UP AND LET'S SAY WE GET 'EM UP AND RUNNING, WE CAN ALSO SEE HOW THE TRAFFIC PATTERN WORKS THERE.
AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TIME TO WHERE WE ARE TO PUT STREETLIGHTS THERE, WE KNOW AT A CERTAIN TIME OF THE DAY THOSE LIGHTS NEED TO BE CONCURRENT TO RUN THROUGH TO WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING INTO SOUTH LAKE RANCH, STEEPLE CHASE, LET'S SAY THE HOURS BETWEEN THE HOURS OF THREE 30 AND FIVE 30 OR SIX, THEN THEY CAN BE, WE CAN GATHER THAT DATA TO WHERE WE CAN SHOW WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS WHEN WE GET OUR PERMANENT LIGHTS.
BUT JUST HAVING THEM THERE CAN IMMEDIATELY HELP WITH THE CONGESTION.
CUZ I'VE STOOD IN LINE TRYING TO GO PICK UP MY SON AT LAYMAN AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INCIDENTS WHERE THE FIRE TRUCK HAS TO GO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC, AND PEOPLE WERE LITERALLY PULLING OFF ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD PULLING INTO PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS JUST TO GET OUTTA THE WAY.
AND IT'S JUST THAT SITUATION TO WHERE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORENCE K AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS AND INCLUDE HAVING THEM IN OUR MEETINGS, WHAT THE BIG CONCERN ABOUT.
SO, UM, WITH THIS, UH, I DO FEEL THAT, UM, THIS WOULD BENEFIT, UH, THE CITY HERE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF, OF ITEM NUMBER 14, CUSTOMER SKEL.
SO I, I I GUESS WHAT I NEED TO KNOW IS LONG TERM, THIS SEEMS TO BE A GOOD IDEA, RIGHT? AS LONG AS IT'S PLANNED OUT AND IT'S, AND WE'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA BE, BUT FOR QUICK TURNAROUND, CUZ THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING.
OR EVEN, AND ANOTHER QUESTION I NEED TO ASK YOU IS WHAT IS DEFINED AS LONG TERM? SO IF WE, IF WE NEED TO PUT 'EM UP FOR SCHOOL DAYS, DO WE GET A, GET A STUDY FOR THAT? BECAUSE FIVE TO 10 DAYS IS CONSIDERED A LONG TERM.
IS IT DEFINED? THIS, THIS IS BASED ON THE UNIFORM, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL MANUAL THAT TEXAS HAS ADOPTED AND TEMPORARY IS DEFINED.
SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THAT WOULD BE PERMANENT.
BASED ON WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
AND SO IT'S A TEMPORARY ZONE IF IT'S CONDITIONS ARE CHANGED BECAUSE OF A WORK ZONE AND INCIDENT ZONE OR A PLANNED SPECIAL EVENT.
SO WHAT ABOUT THREE USES OF THESE TYPES OF DEVICES? UNIFORM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, OR AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL? SO THEY'VE GOT KIND OF THREE BROAD CATEGORIES OF WHEN A TEMPORARY SIGN CAN BE USED.
SO WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, IF WE'RE GONNA USE IT FOR THE START OF SCHOOL OR FOR THE CURRENT SITUATION, FOR BUTTON AND LAYMAN THERE FOR SURE A STUDY WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE CUZ IT'S MORE THAN, IT'S LONGER THAN AN EVENT.
AND AGAIN, SO WHEN, WHEN I TALK ABOUT ENGINEERING JUDGMENT BEING USED, THE ENGINEERS, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC CONTROL MANUAL AND HOW ALL OF THAT WORKS.
THAT'S PART OF THEIR TRAINING IS TO APPLY THE TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROL MANUAL.
SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE THAT YOU HAVE THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, IT'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD.
IT'S WHERE THE, THE THE THE LAW MEETS THE ENGINEERING MEETS, MEETS THE INCIDENT.
SO YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT, GOT A BETTER FULLER RESPONSE FROM THAT EXPERT.
SO THAT WOULD BE ASSUMING THAT WE COULD CONTACT AN ENGINEER AND THEY COULD MAKE THAT DECISION.
I MEAN, THAT'S A PROCESS TOO, RIGHT? LIKE IF WE SAY, OKAY, WELL WE NEED SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, THE ENGINEER CAN'T COME OUT FOR FOUR DAYS.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, 10 DAYS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE IT BECAUSE THE ENGINEER HAS TO COME OUT AND ASSESS THAT.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT, IT REQUIRES THE USE OF ENGINEERING JUDGMENT.
SO IT'S EITHER SOMEBODY YOU HAVE ON STAFF OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PEOPLE CONTRACTED WITH SOMEBODY.
SO IN THE PAST, AND, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS FOR THE STREET DEPARTMENT, UM, THE THINGS THAT I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SIGNAGE AND WHATNOT, LIKE TEMPORARY STOP SIGNS.
IF THE POWER'S OUT AT, UM, KOHLER'S AND 1626, WHATEVER, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE TEMPORARY STOP SIGNS AND SET 'EM UP OUT THERE.
THEY MAY NOT BE TO STANDARD THE RIGHT HEIGHT AND ALL THAT, OR THE RIGHT WIDTH AND ALL THAT, UH, BUT IT'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
SO IT'S CONSIDERED A TEMPORARY, UH, SETTING.
UM, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, UM, ME AND LEON WERE JUST DISCUSSING, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT 110% ON THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE A LITTLE WORRIED, I GUESS, ABOUT THE LIABILITY FACTOR INVOLVED.
BUT IF LEGAL SAYS THAT IT'S OKAY, YOU KNOW, IF AN ENGINEER SAYS, HEY, YOU CAN GO INSTALL THESE AND AS PUBLIC WORKS WE'LL GO INSTALL 'EM.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IN DOING THAT.
WE WERE JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME
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PAGE WITH WHATEVER'S, WITH WHATEVER WE'RE ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED TO DO.NOW I, YEAH, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS WE'RE SPENDING $331,000 AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD COLLECTIVELY USE THESE FOR WHAT, WHERE WE THINK THERE'S REAL ISSUES AT.
SO IF, IF WE'RE THINKING THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A SOLUTION, AND WE ALL KNOW THIS IS NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION, RIGHT? WHAT WE NEED IS ARTERIES AND WE NEED ROAD UPDATES FOR LONG TERM.
THIS IS JUST GONNA BE FOR SHORT TERM.
I'M ASSUMING LIKE MAYBE WE'RE IN SCHOOL STARTS, OR I DON'T, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED AS TO LIKE WHEN WE'RE GONNA, SO THE WAY I SEE IT IS THAT THE, THE, THESE ARE TOOLS THAT WE'RE PURCHASING TO PUT IN THEIR TOOL BOX SO THAT WHEN AN ISSUE COMES UP AND WE CAN DO MORE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, WE AL WE HAVE A SOLUTION THAT WE'VE EQUIPPED THEM WITH.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE ACTUAL CASE ISSUES.
NOW THE DECISION WE HAVE TO MAKE IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO MAKE THIS PURCHASE TO GIVE THEM THE EQUIPMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE GONNA LAST 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HOPEFULLY GONNA BE USED ALL OVER.
BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY YOU SAW THE FLOOR.
WELL WE HAVE A QUOTE FOR FOUR.
DO WE NEED TO BUY FOUR? WHY DON'T WE BUY TWO AND TRY OR ONE YOU, YOU CAN ONLY BUY 'EM IN TWOS I THINK, RIGHT? WELL, CAN WE BUY JUST TWO AND SEE HOW THAT GOES? AND IF THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, IF AS THE BOND PROGRESSES, AS WE START BUILDING THE ROADS, WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE NEED TO GET TWO MORE, THEN WE CAN GET TWO MORE.
THAT WOULDN'T BE 331,000, BUT 165,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK WE NEEDED THREE FOR BUTTON AND LAYMAN, WHICH WAS A CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S A THREEWAY STOP.
SO IT'S NOT JUST GOING THIS WAY, IT'S ALSO TRAFFIC GOING THIS WAY AND THIS WAY.
SO SOMETIMES WE'RE GONNA NEED FOUR.
SOMETIMES AT BUTTON AND LAYMAN WE'RE GONNA NEED THREE.
SO IF WE JUST HAD TWO, THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ROAD THAT DOESN'T GET A STOP LIGHT? YEP.
WE HAVE, WE HAD THE SAME THING.
WE HAVE FOUR AT DAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC NORTH AND SOUTH AND EAST AND WEST.
SO WITH THAT MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 14 N 15 OR N 15, 14 AND 15 SECOND.
MOTION BY, UH, CUSTOMER TOBIS SECOND ABOUT COUNCIL PARTIALLY THAT WE APPROVE YET ITEMS 14, 15.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YES.
I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TOGETHER.
UH, CUZ AGAIN, I'M OKAY WITH 14, UM, WITH 15, I DON'T, I'M NOT, I MEAN, IT COULD PASS AND I GET IT, BUT I'M NOT, I DON'T WANNA VOTE YES FOR ONE FOR BOTH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I WANNA, WANNA VOTE YES FOR BOTH OF THEM.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE IT IF WE COULD SEPARATE THE TWO AND THEN I COULD TAKE TWO SEPARATE.
DO YOU, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT ITEM? YEAH, I JUST, YEAH, I HAVE A GENUINE LIKE QUESTION.
LIKE, UM, WHY DON'T WE JUST ISSUE 'EM NOW? LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND MONEY NOW AND WE KNOW IT'S GONNA TAKE UP TO 18 MONTHS, WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST ISSUE THE BOND MONEY NOW? I'M GETTING A, NO, I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE IS THE PLAN IS TO ISSUE A BOND.
WE'RE GONNA SPEND MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO ACQUIRE THESE, AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO ISSUE OUR FIRST BOND, THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE IOUS THAT WE GET PAID BACK ON.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA USE THE BOND MONEY, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT THE BOND, THE BOND MONEY OUT? I THINK WE WILL.
BUT THEY GO, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEPARATE.
THIS ISN'T A, THIS ISN'T AN ISSUANCE OF CO UH, OR GEO BOND PROCEEDS TO PAY FOR THIS.
THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.
SO FOR ONE, I THINK NUMBER 14 WAS ALREADY BUDGETED, IS THAT CORRECT? WE HAVE NO, NO.
THE, THE PLAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES FROM THE BOND.
IF THE BOND HAD NOT PASSED, YEAH, WE WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT THIS BACK CUZ THAT WAS A DIRECTION.
WELL, TO ME, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THE BONDS TO PROCESS.
SO WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST, YOU KNOW, START TO BOND OUT NOW INSTEAD OF REIMBURSE? WELL, RIGHT NOW THERE'S PLANNING GOING ON ON THE FIRST TRANCHE OF BOND ISSUANCE THAT WILL COVER A NUMBER OF THINGS AND THIS WILL BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S UNDERWRITING FEES AND A LOT, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO DO A PROBABLY A 20 MILLION BOND WHEN THE TIME COMES.
YOU DON'T DO A PIECE MAIL, RIGHT? I JUST, RIGHT.
I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE 15 DONE DIFFERENTLY.
SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF WANTED IT TO TWO VOTES.
UM, WELL WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND ON THE TABLE.
DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA RESTATE IT SO THAT SHE CAN YES.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND AMEND MY FIRST MOTION.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, AMEND MY MOTION FOR 14 AND 15 SECOND.
THE MOTION IS JUST FOR AGENDA ITEM 14.
UH, SECONDED BY ACCOUNTS MEMBER PARTIALLY.
SO, FYI, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
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ALLS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 15, SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCIL.
TOBIAS, IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[16. Discussion and possible action regarding adding Police Department Signage on the Public Safety Center. ~ Ryan Rosborough, AG|CM
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MR. ROSEBORO, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, ROSEBORO, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
UH, WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, UM, WE WERE ASKED TO PRESENT SOME OPTIONS FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE ON THE FRONT OF THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
UM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, UH, RIGHT AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING, UM, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE, IN THE RENDERING THERE, WE HAVE, UM, WHAT I'M CALLING A SLAB THAT EXPANDS ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT READS A CITY OF KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
THAT, UM, MATERIAL HAS ALREADY BEEN FABRICATED.
UH, AND SO WE WERE ASKED TO PRESENT OPTIONS, UH, FROM THE DESIGN TEAM WHERE WE COULD PLACE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE, IDENTIFYING THE POLICE FUNCTION OF THE BUILDING.
AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE 10 DIFFERENT RENDERINGS WITH SOME DIFFERENT VERBIAGE OPTIONS, UH, TO PRESENT THAT POLICE VERBIAGE.
SO WITH THAT, GLAD TO TRY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE ARCHITECT IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GIVE ME ONE SECOND PLEASE.
I GUESS I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT CITY OF KYLE ABOVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER WAS MANDATORY.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD TURN THE BRICKS OVER AND, AND USE THE OPPOSITE SIDE, BUT I, I THOUGHT DURING THE MEDIA, THE KINDA LIKE TASK FORCE THAT WE HAD TO TALK ABOUT IT, IT WAS GONNA BE UP TOPS LIKE CITY OF KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT WHERE THE WHITE BRICKS ARE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
CAUSE I THINK THE LAST THING WE ALL WANTED TO SEE WAS THE REPETITION OF CITY OF KYLE.
SO I LOOKED AT THE OTHER RENDERINGS AND IT SAID, YOU KNOW, CITY OF KYLE POLICE, AND THEN UNDERNEATH IT IT SAYS CITY OF KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
AND I KNOW WE, I DON'T, DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED.
UM, BUT WHAT WHAT WE DID DISCUSS WAS LIKE CITY OF KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEN UNDERNEATH THAT, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK THE ORIGINAL THING WAS IS EVERYBODY JUST WANTED TO HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE BUILDING SOMEWHERE.
HOLD UP THE ORIGINAL MOTION, IF I REMEMBER DANIELLE'S HAND SAYING IN BIG LETTERS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO, UM, YEAH, BUT WHEN WE HAD, WE, WE HAD HAD DISCUSSIONS AND I DIDN'T, I GUESS I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE THIS.
WE, NO, WE ALL RECEIVED THESE JUST RECENTLY.
THIS WAS TODAY, WE RECEIVED TODAY THAT HAD THE WHOLE LAYOUT.
SO THIS IS, BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL THING WAS TO RENAME THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, BUT IT WAS TO, BASICALLY WHAT IT WAS IN THE END WAS TO ADD POLICE DEPARTMENT SOMEWHERE.
RIGHT? SOMEWHERE ON THE BUILDING.
SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IS IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE TO ADD, AND THIS IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ADD POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE SIGNS READY TO GO.
MY SUGGESTION IS YOU SEE THAT KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIGNS RIGHT OVER HERE IN THE OLD BUILDING.
YOU TAKE THOSE OFF AND YOU APPLY IT TO THE NEW BUILDING.
IT'S GONNA SAY THE SAME THING, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU USE THE SAME LOGO, THE SAME, UM, EMBLEMS THAT WE HAVE OUT HERE ON THIS, THE POLICE STATION HERE, AND YOU WOULD ADD IT TO THERE.
THERE'S NO BUDGET A MANAGEMENT, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS INSTALLATION FEES.
NOT ONLY THAT, YOU CAN BRING SOME KIND OF NOSTALGIA TO IT TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN SAY, HEY, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL P O L I C E LOGOS THAT WERE ON THE SAME BUILDING FROM THE OLD ONE.
SO YOU'RE BRINGING THOSE LOGOS THAT ARE CURRENTING ON THIS BUILDING RIGHT NOW, AND YOU CAN JUST TRANSFER IT OVER THERE TO THE YELLOW.
AND YOU HAVE YOUR KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
NO REDESIGN, NO BUDGET AMENDMENTS, NO ADDING IT IN THERE.
IF WE'RE JUST GONNA ADD POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU, USE THE SAME ONES THAT ARE ON THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT HERE.
TAKE 'EM OFF AND ADD 'EM ALL OVER THERE.
I APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING, UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, PICTURES ON THE BACK OF MATERIAL.
UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SEE, HOW IT LOOKED LIKE.
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SO I'M REALLY A FAN OF PAGE NUMBER SEVEN AND PAGE NUMBER EIGHT AND WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT CHIEF BARNETT THINKS ABOUT IT.THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE POLITICAL ANSWER.
WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK IN ANY BUILDING TITLED WHATEVER YOU WANT.
WE'RE JUST SO HAPPY TO GET THE BUILDING.
UM, SO, UH, HONESTLY, WE HAVEN'T GIVEN IT MUCH THOUGHT FROM A POLICE DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT CUZ IT'S THE BUILDING THAT WE, THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MOST.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LETTERING THAT YOU SEE ON THE, THE WHITE STONE PORTION HAS, HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE MM-HMM.
AND THERE WASN'T THE OPTION TO FLIP 'EM OVER BECAUSE THE BACK SIZES NOT THE SAME MATERIAL, AND THAT WASN'T AN OPTION.
BUT THE SOLUTION TO AD POLICE DEPARTMENT OR KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ANY OF THESE SILVER LETTERS THAT THEY'VE GIVEN YOU TO US ARE, ARE ALL ABOUT EQUALLY THE SAME.
AND THEY'LL ALSO THE BUILDING PURPOSES.
DO YOU LIKE THAT IT SAYS POLICE DEPARTMENT, THOUGH? I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT AT ALL.
WE, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PARTICULARLY ADMINISTRATION AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, REALLY HAD NO STRONG FEELINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE THOUGHT, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, WHETHER YOU ADD THAT OR NOT.
UM, IT DOES CERTAINLY SOLVE, ONE PARTICULAR QUESTION THAT HAS COME UP THROUGHOUT YOUR DISCUSSIONS THAT, THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE HEARD IS, DO WE ADEQUATELY KNOW THIS IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? UH, HONESTLY, I'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT MUCH TO POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE IN THE FIELD.
UH, THE TERM PUBLIC SAFETY IS USED A LOT IN OUR FIELD.
SO IT WE'RE, WE'RE USED TO IT.
BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I'VE HAD SEVERAL CITIZENS THAT HAVE ENGAGED IN YOUR COMMENTS THAT SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'VE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
BUT THE WORD POLICE DEPARTMENT VERY SIGNIFICANTLY IDENTIFIES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER WAS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOT BEING, I MEAN, HAVING BEEN IN THE FIELD SO LONG, THAT NEVER CROSSED MY MIND.
BUT YOU HAVE CERTAINLY ENGAGED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BRING THAT UP.
SO THAT'S OPENED MY EYE TO THAT CONVERSATION.
THAT ONE WITH THE STARS IS MY FAVORITE ONE.
THIS, OUR BUILDING DOES HAVE A THEME OF STARS THROUGHOUT, UH, LET'S SEE, IN THE PICTURE HERE WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT ZOOMED IN, IF YOU WERE TO ZOOM OUT OF THE BUILDING EVEN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE STARS OVER THE WINDOWS ON BOTH THE EAST AND WEST WING.
YOU CAN SEE THEM ABOVE THE WINDOWS.
AND THEN THERE ARE STARS INSET, UH, INTO THE ENGRAVED PORTION WHERE IT SAYS PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
SO STARS TEND TO BE A THEME ON THE FRONT DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ADDING OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, JUST LIKE IT SHOWS IN.
UH, SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, SECOND MOTION BY A CUSTOMER.
PARSLEY, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, UH, THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK, UH, OR TO INSTALL, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT AS SHOWN IN SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT WITH THE STARS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION, MR. ROSEBORO? YEAH, JUST ONE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY.
UM, I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS STATED THAT THOSE LETTERS ARE SILVER OR CHROME.
UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY, UH, LIKE LOOTERS, LIKE A WHITE LIMESTONE, UH, WHICH MATCHES THE STARS THAT ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER FLORIS SCALE FOR BRINGING THIS OVER IN THE, THE LAST AGENDAS.
I, I WANNA STATE FOR THE RECORD, THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO BE POLITICAL.
IT WAS A GENUINE QUESTION CUZ I HAD SOMEONE SAY, I DON'T CARE WHAT IT'S CALLED.
AND I'M LIKE, YOU DON'T, BECAUSE YOU'VE NEVER HAD TO WALK INTO A POLICE DEPARTMENT AS SOMEBODY WHO MAY BE A VICTIM OR A RAPE VICTIM AND NEEDS TO GO TO A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IF THEY PULL UP TO A BUILDING THAT SAYS PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, DO THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL? AND SO TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS AND TO MAKE SURE VISITORS AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS NOT, I MEAN, WE ARE DEEP IN THIS, WE KNOW WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
AND SO, BUT NOT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT.
I MEAN, SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS AN ELECTION THIS YEAR.
AND SO FOR SOMEONE TO NOT QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS ALSO A POLICE DEPARTMENT MEANS A LOT TO ME.
AND SO THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO DO, THIS IS NOT A FAJITA DRIVE, RIGHT? THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING I THINK WE INADVERTENTLY LOOKED OVER AND WE REALIZE, OKAY, WE, WE MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.
IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.
OTHER THAN LOOKING UP FOR THE RESIDENTS COUNCILOR TOBIAS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE A CHANGE ORDER, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
DO WE HAVE A COST OF HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE? UH, WE DON'T HAVE IT YET.
ONCE WE GET THE, THE VERBIAGE AND EVERYTHING APPROVED, THEN WE'LL OBVIOUSLY GO BACK.
BUT WOULD, WOULD THOSE SIGNS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE, WOULD THAT WORK WITH, HERE ADDING ON? HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT'S OVER.
I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP ALSO A TRADITION AS WELL, SINCE WE'RE MOVING FROM ONE BUILDING TO ANOTHER TO MAYBE JUST HAVE, IF WE'RE
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GONNA BE GOING WITH ADDING POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF IT GOES THROUGH THIS VOTE, IS IS USING THAT KIND OF IS, IS USING THE, THE ACTUAL LOGOS THAT ARE THERE ALREADY.SO THERE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE A CHANGE ORDER.
IT COULD BE JUST A MATTER OF A SWAP.
BUT IF, IF IT MEANS THAT IT'S GONNA LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THEN, SO CUZ I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A MORE EASIER WAY TO JUST RESOLVE THIS.
YEAH, I, I, I, IF I RECALL THOSE ARE AN ALUMINUM OR A BRUSHED SOMETHING OR ANOTHER.
SO IT WOULD DEFINITELY CHANGE THE LOOK OF THE BUILDING.
IT, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY MATCH WHAT THEY HAVE NOW, WHICH IS THE LI THE LOOTERS, THE LIMESTONE.
UM, AND WITHOUT LOOKING AT 'EM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES REMOVAL AND REINSTALLATION MM-HMM.
YOU'RE TRYING TO SELECTIVELY DEMO IT WHERE YOU'RE NOT HURTING STUFF.
UM, SO WITH THIS, THEY CAN APPLY THESE LETTERS DIRECTLY ON TOP, YOU KNOW, AT ANY TIME.
SO IT'LL BE A CLEANER INSTALLATION, I THINK.
YEAH, I THINK THAT THE, UH, THE SIZE OF THE LETTERS AS WELL WOULD PROBABLY BE DIFFERENT.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY WOULD FIT RIGHT THERE.
AND I ALSO THINK IT'S ACTUALLY QUITE CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION, EVEN WITH THE HAND MOTION.
THE CITY OF KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT UNDER IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
NOT THAT THAT WAS AN OFFICIAL PART OF THE MOTION, BUT IT WAS TRY, WE WERE TRYING VERY HARD TO PROVIDE CLARITY AND I'M, I'M ACTUALLY PRETTY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT CAME BACK.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SENSITIVITY THERE FOR THOSE OF US WHO WERE A PART OF THE NAMING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A PRETTY SOLID COMPROMISE.
SO ONE, I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT, UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CUSTOMERS? UH, I ACTUALLY PREFERRED NUMBER THREE.
IT'S MORE OF A STRAIGHT CLEAN LOOK.
UM, BUT I'M, I'M OKAY WITH ANY SUGGESTIONS IT HAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I JUST THOUGHT THE STARS WERE A LITTLE MUCH EVERYWHERE AND I DIDN'T LIKE THE FROWN, BUT THAT'S OF COURSE JUST THE, MY, MY, MY OPINION.
CAN WE SEE SLIDE THREE? IT'S MORE SIMPLE, BUT THIS BUILDING IS ANYTHING BUT SIMPLE.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT.
I COULD GO NUMBER THREE JUST AS EASILY OR WOULD EVEN PREFER IT, BUT I, I'M ALSO THERE.
I'M JUST AMENABLE TO WHATEVER.
THERE IS A CURVE IN THERE AND I FEEL LIKE THE LETTERING DOES NOT MATCH WITH THE CURVE FROM THE TOP AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THE STARS THAT GO ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE BUILDING.
SO I WILL STICK TO MY MOTION OF ADDING NUMBER EIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[17. (First Reading) Approve an ordinance to reduce the speed limit on Conestoga Drive from Old Stage Coach Road to Jarbridge Drive. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
RIGHT.NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.
FIRST READING, APPROVE ORDINANCE TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT ON CONS.
UH, UH, CONESTOGA DRIVE FROM OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, UH, TO JAR BRIDGE DRIVE.
COUNCIL LI I'M BARBARA, CITY ENGINEER.
UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UH, TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S A PLAYSCAPE AREA IN THERE.
AND SO WE DID, UH, ACTUALLY SEVERAL SPEED STUDIES ON THAT AREA.
THERE WERE CONCERNS THAT ONE OF THOSE SPEECH STUDIES MIGHT HAVE BEEN FLAWED.
SO I ASKED, I ASKED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO RUN THE, RUN THE, UH, SPEECH STUDIES AGAIN, AND THE RESULTS WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAD BEFORE.
SO I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT, UH, THIS LAST STUDY THEY DID WAS, UH, PROVIDED GOOD INFORMATION FOR ME TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO BE ABLE TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT THERE FROM 30 TO 25.
BELIEVE THE, UH, 85TH PERCENT WAS ABOUT 27 OR 28, WHICH, AND WE CAN LOWER IT DOWN TO FIVE BELOW THE SPEED LIMIT THAT, UH, WE MEASURED THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO GO FROM 30 TO 25.
ALSO, IN YOUR BACKUP, THERE'S A SKETCH THAT I PROVIDED.
I'M WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON, UH, PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL STRIPING AND MAYBE SOME SIGNS.
I KNOW WE DON'T, UH, SOME OF US DON'T LIKE THOSE, UH, VERTICAL SIGNS BECAUSE THE, THEY EVENTUALLY BECOME TARGETS AND PEOPLE TAKE 'EM OUT AND THEIR, THEIR MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
BUT, UH, SO OTHER IDEAS THAT I WAS GONNA TOSS OUT AND WORK OUT WITH PUBLIC WORKS IS POSSIBLY USING BUTTONS MAYBE TO HELP, UH, DELINEATE THOSE AREAS BETTER.
SO THAT'S GONNA GONNA BE THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS, UH, UH, SPEED REDUCTION IN THAT AREA.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, IF I DON'T FORGET, IS TO POSSIBLY IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS, I'D LIKE TO TAKE ANOTHER SPEED STUDY AND SEE WHAT IMPACT DID IT HAVE, AND IF IT DOES HAVE A GOOD IMPACT, THEN, UH, WHERE WE HAVE OTHER AREAS WHERE WE'RE HAVING ISSUES, SIMILAR KIND OF ISSUES, MAYBE WE CAN DO THE SAME THING TOO.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR SAYING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 17, IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[18. Approve a resolution authorizing the mayor to negotiate an agreement with KCI TECHNOLOGIES, INC., San Antonio, Texas to provide a comprehensive street pavement evaluation and infrastructure assessment of city streets. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
WITH AGENDA ITEM 18, APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH KCI TECHNOLOGIES INCORPORATED SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE STREET PAYMENT EVALUATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE[02:35:01]
ASSESSMENT OF CITY STREETS.MR. PARMA, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BEFORE WE, UH, MOVE INTO THE DISCUSSION, UH, I SHOULD HAVE USED THE WORD TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT RATHER THAN NEGOTIATE.
UH, USUALLY I, I NEGOTIATE WITH THE, UH, ENGINEERING FIRMS AND, AND TRY TO GET THE BEST PRICE AND GET THE MOST, UH, SCOPE OF WORK ON OUR PROJECTS OR THESE CONTRACTS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.
SO, UH, IF, IF YOU DECIDE TO APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR, UH, RESOLUTION, IF YOU WOULD JUST, UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU SHOW THAT AS, UH, EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT RATHER THAN NEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT.
UM, WE, UH, HAD SEVEN SUBMITTALS FROM, UH, VARIOUS FIRMS TO, UM, DO OUR PAYMENT ASSESSMENT.
THE LAST TIME WE DID A PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT WAS BACK IN 2015.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE CURVE ON TRYING TO GET OUR, UH, PAVEMENT ASSESSMENTS UP ON A REGULAR BASIS.
TYPICALLY, I'D LIKE TO DO THOSE ABOUT EVERY FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
THE, UH, ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS, UH, WHEN WE DID OUR FIRST, UH, PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT, WE HAD ABOUT 120 CENTER LINE MILES.
TODAY WE'RE AT ABOUT 184, SO IT'S OVER A 50% INCREASE IN OUR ROADWAY SYSTEM.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE USE THESE, UH, PAYMENT ASSESSMENTS, UH, FOR IS TO DETERMINE OUR RESURFACING PROGRAMS. DO WE NEED TO DO SOME MAJOR REHAB? DO WE NEED TO DO SOME, UH, OVERLAYS? DO WE NEED TO DO SOME RESURFACING WITH MICROSURFACING OR SEAL COATS? THAT'S WHAT WE USE THESE, UH, ASSESSMENTS.
NOW, SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT THIS STUDY AND SAY, OKAY, THIS SCORE, THIS ONE GOT A SCORE OF 75.
LET'S GO DO THE, DO SOME WORK ON OTHER, SOME PAVEMENT, UH, UH, RESURFACING OR WHATEVER.
BUT, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, WE, WE ALSO HAVE TO GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND LOOK AT THOSE PARTICULAR ROADS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, NOT THAT WE DON'T TRUST THE PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT, BUT THINGS MAY HAVE HAPPENED DIFFERENTLY SINCE WE DID THE LAST PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS CAREFULLY SO WE NOT ONLY GET NUMBERS THAT ASSESS OUR ROADS, BUT WE ALSO MAKE A VISUAL OBSERVANCE OF THOSE ROADS BEFORE WE PUT 'EM ON A RESURFACING LIST.
UH, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE FOR AN, FOR ANY ANSWERS.
AND I WAS A PART OF THE, NOT THE AWARDING OF THE CONTRACT, BUT THE RESULTS OF THE PAVEMENT STUDY AS IT CAME IN, I THINK IN 2016.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND INTERESTING, I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCILS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY GO OUT WITH CAMERAS.
SO THIS IS A VERY TECHNOLOGICAL, UH, APPROACH.
AND THEY SCORE BY USING CAMERAS OFF THE, I I DON'T, I DON'T, MAYBE Y'ALL CAN EXPLAIN THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF, BIT OF WHAT THAT, UH, ENTAILS, BECAUSE I FOUND THAT TO BE RELEVANT AND FACTUAL.
THEY'RE USING LASERS AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY MEASURE THE, THE, THE RUTTING OF THE ROW.
THEY MEASURE THE CRACKS, THEY MEASURE THE POTHOLES, AND THEY GIVE THAT INFORMATION AND THAT CREATES YOUR SCORE.
UH, IT'S A, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE PAVER.
IT'S CALLED PAVER PAVEMENT, UH, ANALYSIS PROCESS THEY USE THAT'S USED BY THE MILITARY IS WHO THEY, HOW THEY SCORE THEIR, COME UP WITH THEIR SCORES.
IT'S USUALLY ZERO TO A HUNDRED SEVENTIES, GOOD ROAD, EIGHTIES, BETTER, NINETIES DARN GOOD.
AND, UH, BUT USUALLY YOUR ROADS ARE GONNA BE FROM ANYWHERE FROM 30 UP TO 80 90, UH, RANGE.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA LAND.
BUT ALSO WHAT WE DO IS WE DO, UH, A RIDE INDEX.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY HAVE A ROAD THAT'S REALLY, UH, NO POTHOLES, NO CRACKING, NO RIDING, BUT IT'S GOING UP AND DOWN.
MOST OF THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE IN THE WEST, I MEAN THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, CLAYS WHERE THE ROADS GO UP AND DOWN.
SO WE ALSO ALSO MEASURE THAT WITH THIS STUDY.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK TO THIS, UH, THIS, UH, ENGINEERING FIRM ABOUT IS ALSO PICKING UP SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
WE MAY WANT THEM TO COUNT THE STRIPING THAT WE HAVE.
WE MAY WANT THEM TO COUNT THE NUMBER OF SIGNS WE HAVE.
WE MAY WANT THEM TO IDENTIFY THEIRS THAT HAVE SIDEWALKS, AND THAT'S EXTRA COST.
BUT, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A BUDGET TO SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GO WITH THAT.
BUT I'LL BE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO SEE HOW MUCH INFORMATION WE CAN GET.
BUT THIS LASER SYSTEM THAT THEY USE WITH THOSE VEHICLES PRETTY WELL PICKS UP A LOT OF INFORMATION AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL ONCE WE DECIDE WHAT WE WANNA SEE OUT OF THAT STUDY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CUSTOMER FOR GO, LEON, I WAS REALLY NERVOUS READING THIS, THINKING THAT MAYOR MITCHELL WAS GONNA NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT ABOUT ENGINEERING.
I THOUGHT MAYBE HE WENT AND GOT SOME KIND OF DEGREE OR LICENSE BEHIND OUR BACK.
AND SO I'M, I'M RELIEVED THAT YOU SAID EXECUTE, UM, AN AGREEMENT.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, WHAT KIND OF IS IS WHEN THEY GO AND LOOK AT THE ROADS, IS IT GONNA BE LIKE A COLLECTIVE ALL AROUND CITY, UH, UH, LIKE ASSESSMENT? OR IS THERE GONNA BE LIKE SPOT SPOTTED AREAS? LIKE WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THEY WILL DO EVERY ROAD THAT WE ASK THEM TO DO, AND THEY'LL GO FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER.
I DO, I WANNA ASK 'EM TO BREAK IT DOWN BLOCK BY BLOCK.
SO THAT'S EXTRA WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
BUT I WANT, UH, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA DO TEXT DO ROADS, WE'LL JUST DO OUR ROADS.
UH, THE FIRST TIME WE DID OUR PAVING ASSESSMENT, WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE ROAD BOND PROJECTS CAUSE WE KNEW THEY WERE BAD.
AND SO WHY, WHY DID WE NEED TO RUN THOSE? SO WE SAVED A LITTLE MONEY THERE BY NOT HAVING TO DO THOSE.
BUT, UH, MY PLAN IS TO DO ALL OF OUR ROADS TO SEE WHERE WE ARE, WHAT YOU DO WITH THIS INFORMATION.
ANOTHER THING THAT I REALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA IS THAT ONCE YOU GET THAT FIRST AVERAGE SCORE, WHATEVER THAT IS, IT'S A DOT ON YOUR GRAPH.
AND THEN YOU DO STUDY AGAIN, YOU GET ANOTHER DOT, AND THEN YOU KEEP DOING YOUR STUDIES ON A ROUTINE BASIS.
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GETTING THESE DOTS, AND EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE A CURVE.IF YOU'RE SPENDING ENOUGH MONEY ON YOUR MAINTENANCE, YOUR, YOUR NUMBERS SHOULD EITHER BE CONSISTENT OR START GOING UP.
IF THEY'RE STARTING TO GO DOWN, THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOT SPENDING ENOUGH MONEY ON PAYMENT, UH, MAINTENANCE.
SO THAT'S WHY I REALLY NEEDED SOME MORE STUDIES DONE TO KIND SEE.
WE HAVE ONE.NOW
ARE THEY GOING DOWN? AND THAT'S NOT GOOD.
IF THEY'RE GOING STAYING STABLE OR GOING UP, THAT'S BETTER.
HOW CAN, UM, HOW CAN WE GET POST OAK SUBDIVISION ONTO THIS ASSESSMENT? IT, IT IS, IT WILL BE IN THE ASSESSMENT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER.
I'M SORRY, WHAT? 18, 18, SECOND.
THE, THE MOTION IS MADE BY COUNCIL, COUNCIL FLORES CAL, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARLEY THAT APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, FOR, UH, STAFF THAT IS NOT NEGOTIATE, BUT EXECUTE, IS THAT AGREEABLE TO THE MOTION IN SECOND ADDED FOR THE RECORD AND MAYOR, THE RESOLUTION IS CORRECT.
NO, I'M NOT, BUT I, I DO, I I FOUND THAT THAT CON UH, PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX SCORE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WENT BACK TO ALL THE TIME TO HELP US MAKE DECISIONS.
AND IT'S PARTICULARLY HELPFUL IN THE SUBDIVISIONS LIKE POST OAK AND WATER LEAF AND WHEREVER ELSE, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW THE INTERIOR STREETS OF WHICH ARE OUR STREETS AS WELL.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IS FAVORS SAY AYE.
[19. Approve Task Order #2 with RPS INFRASTRUCTURE, INC., Austin, Texas, a civil engineering consulting firm, to provide field notes and surveyor metes and bounds map for the Marketplace Avenue extension in an amount of $31,950.25. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
NUMBER 19, APPROVED TASK ORDER NUMBER TWO, WITH RPS INFRASTRUCTURE INCORPORATED, UH, A CIVIL ENGINEERING CONSULTING FIRM PROVIDE TO PROVIDE FIELD NOTES AND SURVEYOR MEETS AND BOUNDS, UH, MAP FOR THE MARKETPLACE AVENUE EXTENSION IN AN AMOUNT OF $31,950 AND 25 CENTS.MR. BURMA, MARION COUNCIL, THIS ITEM AUTHORIZES RPS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING OUR SURVEY THAT WE NEED, UH, TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE LANDOWNER.
WE NEED TO GIVE THEM MEETS AND BOUND DESCRIPTION AND MAP SHOWING THE AREAS THAT WE NEED FOR OUR PROPOSED EXTENSION OF THE MARKETPLACE AVENUE PROJECT.
ANY DISCUSSIONS FOR LEON CUSTOMER? TOBIAS MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE AN APPROVAL.
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 19.
SECOND, MOTION BY CUSTOMER TOBIAS SECOND, AND BY CUSTOMER PARTIALLY THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20,
[20. Discussion and Consideration to approve the 104 S. Burleson Project Schematic Design Plans, Budget and Schedule, to proceed into the Design Document Phase of design. ~ Ryan Rosborough, AG|CM and Todd Kaiser, BGK Architects]
DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THE 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON PROJECT, SCHEMATIC DESIGN PLANS, BUDGET AND SCHEDULE TO PROCEED INTO THE DESIGN DOCUMENT PHASE OF DESIGN.UH, GOOD EVENING, MARION COUNCIL AGAIN, RYAN ROSEBORO WITH AGC M UH, FOR THE RECORD.
UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT, UM, KIND OF THE IDEA GOING INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, TASKFORCE FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW ON COMING UP WITH SOME SCHEMATIC, UH, PLANS FOR THE 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON PROJECT.
AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO TONIGHT WAS KIND OF BRING YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT.
SO THE WAY WE WANTED TO PACKAGE THIS, THIS TOGETHER, UM, IN THE, IN THE NAME OF KIND OF TRANSPARENCY AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S COMMUNICATING, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS GET SIX MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS, 10 MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD IN DESIGN, COME TO COUNCIL AND FIND OUT WE WERE HEADED DOWN THE WRONG PATH THE WHOLE TIME.
SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BRING YOU AT DIFFERENT DELIVERABLE MILESTONES DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BRING YOU, UH, HERE'S WHERE WE STAND ON DESIGN.
AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT, HERE'S THE BUDGET THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT DESIGN AND THE SCHEDULE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT DESIGN.
THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY PLUGGED IN AND UP TO SPEED ON WHERE WE STAND, UH, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHERE WE'RE MOVING.
BECAUSE AS I SAID, WE DON'T WANNA GET DOWN THE ROAD AND THEN FIND OUT WE TOOK A WRONG TURN SOMEWHERE, THEN WE'RE WORKING BACKWARDS TO TRY TO CORRECT, UH, EVERYTHING UP TO DATE.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, WE'VE GOT, UM, FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS PRESENT THE SCHEMATIC PLANS AS THEY STAND TODAY AND AS THEY'VE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE TASK FORCE.
WE HAVE BG K I BELIEVE, ONLINE.
UH, TODD, ARE YOU THERE? TODD IS THERE.
THERE HE IS, RIGHT? I AM, YES.
SO TODD IS GONNA GO AHEAD AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, UH, SHOW YOU THE FLOOR PLAN, THE SITE PLAN AND THE ELEVATIONS, AND THEN GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE BUDGET THAT MATCHES THAT DESIGN, AND THEN THE SCHEDULE AFTER THAT.
SO, TODD, TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
WHY? I'M LOOKING AT HIM LIKE HE CAN SEE ME.
GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I'M TODD KAISER FROM B GK ARCHITECTS FOR THE RECORD.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN.
AND, UH, AS RYAN SAID, SO WE ARE REALLY IN THE FIRST PHASE OF DESIGN.
SO I WANNA JUST SORT OF STATE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.
THERE ARE TYPICALLY THREE STAGES.
THE FIRST BEING SCHEMATIC DESIGN, THE SECOND BEING DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE REALLY REFINE THE IDEAS, REFINE THE DESIGN, IF YOU WILL.
AND LASTLY IS THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
SO THIS IS REALLY JUST THE BEGINNING.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE TASK FORCE.
WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.
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DEVELOP AND INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE IDEAS INTO THE REFINEMENT OF OUR PROJECT.SO JUST FOR CONTEXT, UH, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ZIKA, I HAVEN'T MET YOU YET, BUT IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE ACTUAL FLOOR PLANS AND THE BUILDING ITSELF.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, SITE ACROSS FROM, UH, CRU THERO CENTER IN MARY COW, HARSON PARK HERE, UH, 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON.
MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS ZOOMING IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE OVERALL LANDSCAPE CONCEPT, BUT I THINK IT ILLUSTRATES SOME OF THE BIG OVERARCHING DESIGN IDEAS.
AND MAINLY THAT IS TO MAKE A STRONG VISUAL AXIAL CONNECTION TO THE KRUG CENTER, UM, AS WELL AS CREATING SOME TYPE OF A GREEN PUBLIC SPACE BEHIND THE BUILDING AS WELL.
SO ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO, UM, POTENTIAL RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL SPACES, IF YOU WILL.
THE LARGER SPACE TO THE SOUTH WOULD BE A RESTAURANT.
THE SMALLER COMMERCIAL SPACE TO THE NORTH WE'RE IMAGINING AS RETAIL WITH THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME POSSIBLY A SMALL CAFE OR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.
LOOKING AT THE FLOOR PLANS, UM, I'M GONNA START WITH THE GROUND FLOOR AND WE CAN ZOOM IN AND TALK MORE IN, IN MORE DETAIL IF YOU LIKE.
CERTAINLY IN Q AND A OR NOW JUST STOP ME IF YOU WANT TO.
BUT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RESTAURANT HERE, UM, WITH A NUMBER OF LARGE STOREFRONT OPENINGS.
WE HAVE A OPERABLE RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY A GARAGE DOOR THAT CAN BE LIFTED UP HERE IN THE CENTER AND BOTH FACING BURLESON AND THEN ALSO FACING THE PUBLIC SPACE AND THE SORT OF THE BACK PLAZA, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN THERE'S A BREEZE, A BREEZEWAY OR A PUBLIC PASS THROUGH THAT YOU CAN WALK THROUGH.
AND WE IMAGINE THAT THERE COULD BE A POTENTIAL FOR DINING ALL ALONG THIS ELEVATION.
SO OUTDOOR DINING THAT COULD SPILL OVER FROM THE RESTAURANT ALONG INTO THE BREEZEWAY, AS WELL AS INTO A LARGE GENEROUS SIDEWALK.
UH, ALONG THE BURLESON, UH, FRONT, THIS SMALL SPACE HERE IS AROUND 800 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, A SMALL RETAIL SPACE, PROBABLY LARGE ENOUGH FOR MAYBE ONE OR TWO TENANTS AT MOST.
UM, AND THEN THE SPACE BACK HERE IS MORE, UH, RESTROOMS. A FIRE, A RISER ROOM FOR A PUMP THAT WE'LL NEED FOR THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.
AN ELEVATOR PROVIDING ACCESSIBILITY TO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO WORK ON THE UPPER LEVELS OR VISIT THE UPPER LEVELS AS WELL AS A, UM, A LOBBY SPACE AND WHAT WE'RE CALLING A POPUP SPACE.
SO THIS MIGHT BE A SEASONAL SPACE.
IT'S REALLY, THIS WILL BE THE CITY'S BUILDING.
AND THIS, THIS SPACE HERE COULD REALLY BE A NUMBER OF THINGS.
IT'S A SMALL SPACE THAT COULD BE SEASONAL, LIKE I SAID, OR COULD SHOW ART.
UM, COULD JUST BE A SEATING SPACE.
MOVING UP TO THE SECOND LEVEL
SO FOR RENT OFFICE, UM, THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY IS NOT IMAGINING THAT THE CITY WOULD PUT THEIR OFFICES HERE, BUT THIS WOULD BE, UM, FOR RENT FOR PRIVATE COMPANIES, IF YOU WILL, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
SO THIS OFFICE SPACE WE'RE IMAGINING AS ONE TENANT, UM, AND A SMALL TERRACE HERE FACING THE PUBLIC SPACE TO THE BACK.
AND THEY ALSO WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN RESTROOMS AND AN ELEVATOR WOULD LEAD TO THEIR SPACE FROM THE GROUND FLOOR.
LASTLY, THE THIRD FLOOR IS ENVISIONED AS A COMMUNITY ROOM.
THIS WOULD BECOME A GREAT PUBLIC AMENITY.
SO THIS COULD BE RENTED OUT FOR PARTIES OR POTENTIALLY, I DON'T KNOW, THE CITY WOULD NEED TO, TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S FOR RENT OR CAN BE, UM, BORROWED OR, OR JUST RESERVED.
I'M NOT SURE HOW ALL THAT WORKS.
BUT, UH, WE'VE DESIGNED THIS SPACE TO HAVE A SMALL KITCHENETTE.
UM, SO CATERED FOOD COULD BE SET OUT.
WE COULD HAVE A SMALL KITCHEN, UH, MAYBE SOME, UH, SERVING ISLAND, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AS WELL AS A LARGE SPACE FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS, PARTIES, GATHERINGS, RECEPTIONS, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, DOWN TO THE SOUTH THERE'S AN AB ROOM, SOME STORAGE SPACE POTENTIALLY FOR CHAIRS, FURNITURE, WHATNOT.
AND THEN THE OTHER ELEMENT THAT'S, UM, WORTH NOTING ON THIS LEVEL IS AN OUTDOOR TERRACE.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN 3D, BUT UM, IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
BUT THIS IDEA THAT THE COMMUNITY ROOM WOULD HAVE AN OUTDOOR SPACE THAT COULD REALLY LOOK OVER
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TO THE KROG CENTER AND THE MARY KYLE HEARTS AND PARK, AND REALLY BE CONNECTED TO THAT IMPORTANT HISTORIC SPACE IN THE CITY.SO WITH THAT, UM, I'LL SHARE SOME ELEVATIONS.
AND AGAIN, I'LL PREFACE THIS BY SAYING THIS IS EARLY ON IN DESIGN.
THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT THE FINAL ANSWER.
WE'VE GOT A, A LONG WAY TO GO, UH, AND WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT WITH THE TASK FORCE.
UM, BUT I THINK THIS IS HELPFUL.
SO THIS IS SORT OF LOOKING AT THE, THE ELEVATION THAT FACES BURLESON.
THIS WAS THE SIDE THAT FACES THE PARK.
UM, YOU'LL SEE HERE LOTS OF GLASS, UM, FOR OUTDOOR DINING ON THIS SIDE.
THIS IS THAT BREEZEWAY THAT PEOPLE COULD WALK THROUGH FREELY TO GET TO THE, THE SPACE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THAT ALIGNS PERFECTLY WITH THE KROG CENTER.
AND THEN THESE WOULD BE LARGE STOREFRONTS FOR THE POTENTIAL RETAIL TENANT.
SECOND LEVEL, AGAIN, IS OFFICE.
AND THE THIRD LEVEL WOULD BE THAT COMMUNITY SPACE, THAT COMMUNITY, UH, AMENITY.
AND THIS IS THAT OUTDOOR TERRACE, IF YOU WILL, THAT WOULD HAVE AN AWESOME VIEW OF MARY CALL ARTS PARK.
UM, THE OTHER ELEVATIONS ARE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL, BUT, UM, THE IDEA IS THAT WE'RE GONNA USE SOME KIND OF A SPECIAL MASONRY.
UM, STILL NOT SURE OF THE COLOR, STILL NOT SURE OF THE DETAILING IN TERMS OF HOW WE ARTICULATE THE, THE WINDOWS.
UM, BUT THIS IS A, UH, A VERY THOROUGH DESIGN RIGHT NOW THAT HAS BEEN COORDINATED WITH THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEER, WITH THE MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING ENGINEERS, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPE DESIGNERS.
AND WE'VE CREATED A PACKAGE OF THESE DRAWINGS TO GIVE A COMPLETE SET OF SCHEMATIC DESIGN DOCUMENTS TO THE CONTRACTOR.
AND THEY HAVE COME UP WITH A COST ESTIMATE.
SO THAT, THOSE ARE THE EXHIBITS I HAVE.
I'M GLAD TO GO BACK TO ANY OF THE FLOOR PLANS OR THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT THESE ELEVATIONS.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
DO WE WANT TO TALK DESIGN, OR DO WE WANT TO FINISH UP WITH THE COST TESTAMENT SO THAT WE CAN SEE.
IS THAT OKAY? YOU WANNA GO NOW? YEAH.
UH, COUNCIL TOBY, JUST REAL QUICK ON DESIGN, UH, HAS ANYBODY BROUGHT FORTH ON THE THIRD FLOOR THAT TERRACE TO BE OPEN WITH NO ROOF, TO JUST HAVE THAT OPEN SPACE? CAUSE I SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT A ROOF THAT'S COVERING IT, SO I GUESS WE DO HAVE AN OVERHANG.
THE WAY I LOOK AT IT IS IF IT WAS OPEN AND THAT PLACE DOES, UH, THAT SPACE DOES GET RENT OUT, LET'S SAY FOR THE 4TH OF JULY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY'D BE ABLE TO WATCH THE FIREWORKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THAT OUTDOOR SPACE, AND YOU CAN HAVE, IT'S JUST, YOU SEE THE SKY, IT'S NOT COVERED BY A ROOF OR CEILING FANS.
IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A SPACE TO WHERE YOU CAN WALK OUT, LET'S SAY IN TWO WEEKS, IT'S RENTED OUT FOR A CHRISTMAS PARTY AND YOU CAN SEE THE PARK AND YOU'D HAVE THAT OPEN AIR.
I'VE SEEN PLACES LIKE THAT IN, IN AUSTIN THAT THAT'S KIND OF OPENED UP.
UH, AND IT, IT BRINGS, UH, A LITTLE BIT, KIND OF A MORE OF AN OPEN SPACE TO WHERE IT'S NOT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST, HAS THAT BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE OF HAVING A ROOF OR NOT HAVING A ROOF? I BELIEVE WE LOOKED AT IT EARLY ON AND WE LOOKED AT A PARTIAL ROOF.
SO MORE OF A SLAP TYPE CONDITION.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE NOT LOOKED CLOSELY AT JUST HAVING IT OPEN.
AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY A GOOD IDEA THAT THAT IS WORTH LOOKING AT.
UM, AND WE CAN CIRCLE BACK ON THIS TOO AS WELL, AFTER WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE, THE OTHER, UH, ATTACHMENTS HERE.
UM, UH, IT'S, I'M GONNA REPEAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT TODD, UH, SHARED.
JUST, I THINK IT BEARS REPEATING WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD INTO THE NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN, WHICH IS DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PHASE.
ONCE WE GET THROUGH WITH THAT PHASE, WE WOULD COME BACK AND AGAIN, ASK FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE INTO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PHASE.
SO WHY ARE WE COMING BACK A SECOND AND A THIRD TIME? BECAUSE, BECAUSE THE DOCUMENTS WILL CHANGE.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW IS A, IS A SCHEMATIC DESIGN.
AS IT GETS MORE DEFINED AND IT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE, UM, THE DRAFT BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU.
AND, UH, NEXT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE SCHEDULE THAT WE SHOW YOU IS GOING TO CHANGE.
UM, SO DON'T TAKE WHAT YOU SEE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE GOSPEL BECAUSE IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.
AND SO AS YOU SEE IN THE FUTURE, THE POINT OF US COMING BACK IS TO UPDATE YOU ON THOSE CHANGES AS THEY HAPPEN.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.
UM, SO WITH THAT, THE NEXT DOCUMENT WE'LL RUN THROUGH, UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE CADENCE MCSHANE ON THE LINE ALSO, I THINK, OR, OH, THERE HE IS, RIGHT THERE.
UH, SO SCOTT GERMAN, UH, WITH CADENCE MCSHANE IS HERE.
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MCSHANE IS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK THAT WAS SELECTED BY THE CITY, UH, TO PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT.AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT HAVING, UH, SCOTT AND HIS FIRM ON BOARD IS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO HELP US REAL TIME AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN TO BRING US OPTIONS ON CONSTRUCTABILITY, ON COST, ON VALUE ENGINEERING.
SO ALL THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN REAL TIME WITH THEM AT OUR SIDE INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL WE GET TO THE END.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, AS WE PRESENT THE BUDGET, I THINK EVERYBODY HAS THAT EXHIBIT IN THEIR PACKET.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS WE TRIED TO PUT A COMPREHENSIVE BUT EASY TO READ, UH, BUDGET DOCUMENT TOGETHER.
AGAIN, THE IDEA IS THAT THIS WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU MULTIPLE TIMES, SO WE WANT IT TO BE EASY TO READ AND VERY EASY TO FOLLOW.
UM, SO WHAT YOU HAVE THERE, YOU'VE GOT SEVEN PAGES ON THE FRONT PAGE.
YOU'VE GOT BASICALLY A COVER OR SUMMARY SHEET THAT SUMMARIZES ALL OF THE TABS BEHIND IT.
AND IF YOU WANT TO DIVE INTO A SPECIFIC ITEM, THEN YOU CAN GO INTO THE TABS BEHIND THAT WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGH LEVEL DETAIL ON HOW THESE, UH, COSTS ARE ESTIMATED.
SO THIS IS JUST AN ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT, OBVIOUSLY, UM, UNTIL THE DESIGN IS A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETE AND ALL THE SUBCONTRACTOR BIDS ARE BOUGHT OUT, ONLY THEN DOES IT BECOME AN ACTUAL FINAL NUMBER, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS YOU'RE USING ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS ALSO SE AT RISK.
UM, SO, UH, WITH KANES MC MCCAIN'S HELP, UH, THEY TOOK THESE SCHEMATIC DRAWINGS, THEY WENT BACK TO THEIR ESTIMATING DEPARTMENT.
THEY PUT NUMBERS TOGETHER BASED ON THIS DESIGN THAT TODD AND THE TASK FORCE HAVE COME UP WITH TO THIS POINT.
UM, WHEN WE ASSEMBLE THAT ESTIMATE, ALONG WITH ALL OF THE OTHER COSTS BEHIND IT, WE INCLUDED IN HERE DESIGN FEES.
WE INCLUDE FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT.
BASICALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS INCLUDE ALL THE COSTS THAT ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED FOR YOU TO OPEN AND HAVE A FUNCTIONAL BUILDING.
UM, WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO WAS SELECTIVELY CHOOSE WHAT'S IN AND OUTTA THE BUDGET FOR YOUR PURPOSES, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE LEFT WITH A BUILDING THAT YOU MAY OPEN AND IT MAY NOT BE FUNCTIONAL.
THERE MAY BE SOMETHING WE FORGOT.
SO WE TRIED TO INCLUDE AS MUCH AS WE COULD WITHIN THIS BUDGET PACKAGE, UH, TO GIVE YOU THE COMPREHENSIVE KIND OF ALL IN LOOK.
UM, SO WITH THAT, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE, ON THE, UH, COVER SHEET, WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION COSTS FIGURED, UM, DESIGN FEES, FF AND E, WHICH IS JUST, THESE ARE ALL JUST, UH, ESTIMATES AT THIS POINT.
UM, MISCELLANEOUS CONSULTANTS, UTILITIES, AND THEN WE ALSO, THROUGH SOME CONTINGENCY IN THERE, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE MARKET IS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S CRAZY OUT THERE, IT'S BANANAS.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND ACCOUNTING FOR THAT, UH, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW NOBODY HAS ALL THE ANSWERS AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO.
UM, SO AT THE END OF THAT, WHAT WE COME UP WITH IS ABOUT 14.9 MILLION.
SO, UM, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT THE CITY HAD ESTABLISHED WAS ABOUT 10.4 AND SOME CHANGE, ALMOST 10.5.
AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING A BIT OF A FUNDING GAP, UH, ON THAT OVERALL COST ESTIMATE.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO MAKE SURE TONIGHT THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND TO GET APPROVAL TO MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, SEEING IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND IF SOMETHING HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO CHANGE DIRECTIONS OR WE NEED TO CHANGE COURSE, UH, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
SO WOULD THAT ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I THINK THE TWO QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME TO MIND, UH, ARE ONE, HOW, UH, WHAT CUTS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAKE IN ORDER TO KEEP IT WITHIN OUR ORIGINAL SCOPE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE ADDED TO IT, UH, HERE.
UH, AND THEN TWO, IF WE WERE TO PROCEED AS PLANNED, UH, WHAT WOULD OUR OPTIONS BE FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT? SO I'M NOT SURE IF PERVEZ HAS HAD A CHANCE TO, TO LOOK AT THIS, BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE FOR US UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT A SIZABLE FUNDING GAP IN ORDER TO GET THIS PROJECT BACK ON TRACK, UM, TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION, UH, TO PERVE TO COME BACK WITH SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS, UH, FOR HOW WE MAY FUND IT.
I KNOW WE'VE ALSO BEEN DISCUSSING, UM, O OTHER OPTIONS, UH, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME TIME THERE.
SO THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE MY SUGGESTION.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SOLVE IT RIGHT HERE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK ON THAT? I AGREE.
UM, IT MAY BE A BIT MORE ACCORDING TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE.
UH, YOU'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THE BUDGET ON THIS.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EITHER USE SOME KIND OF DEBT IN ORDER TO CATCH CATCH UP.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE THE, UH, CASH AMOUNT IN ORDER TO, UH, GREEN LIGHT IT, UH, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT THE COSTS.
SO THOSE ARE OUR THREE OPTIONS, AND I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HEAR HOW WE WOULD ACHIEVE THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT.
ONE WOULD BE A, A REDUCTION IN SCOPE TO STAY WITHIN BUDGET.
ONE MIGHT BE, UH, FINANCING OPTIONS.
UH, AND THEN ONE MIGHT BE CASH OPTIONS AND HOW WE WOULD AMEND OUR BUDGET IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
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JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, WHAT WE MAKE OUT OF THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO SET A MARK FOR WHATEVER COMES NEXT.SO, UM, I DON'T WANT TO GO CHEAP OR REDUCE ON THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING OR WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IT, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE NOT SETTING THAT STANDARD.
SO IF FINANCING IT'S AN OPTION, I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK INTO IT.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SQUARE, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LANDMARK.
IT'S JUST SAYING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPLORE OPTIONS OF FINANCING IF WE DO GO ABOVE THE BUDGET, UH, CUSTOMERS UTICA.
UH, WELL, I ALSO THINK, UH, IT IS A 4.4 MILLION MORE OVER THE BUDGET.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO CUT BACK A LOT ON THE QUALITY, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME ROOM THAT CAN BE REDUCED ON AND STILL GET A VERY GOOD DESIGN.
SO IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND, I'LL JUST, JUST KIND OF, UM, THERE'S TWO APPROACHES YOU CAN TAKE, RIGHT? WITH ALL OF OUR CLIENTS, IT'S EITHER, IT'S EITHER YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN PROGRAM THE PROJECT UP TO WHATEVER YOUR BUDGET IS.
SO IT MAY NOT BE FUNCTIONAL FOR WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
THE, THE OTHER WAY TO DO IT IS TO BUDGET TO THE DESIGN, WHICH IS THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE TASK FORCE INPUT, THAT THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED.
THESE ARE THE NEEDS OF THE FACILITY.
UM, SO AS FAR AS COST REDUCTION IS CONCERNED, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS VALUE ENGINEER THE BUILDING.
AND I KNOW TODD AND, AND SCOTT'S, YEAH, VALUE ENGINEERING IS YOU GET A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF WHAT YOU WANTED AND WHAT YOU WERE HOPING TO GET.
AND TO YOUR POINT, I KNOW Y'ALL DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A CHEAP BUILDING, YOU WANT IT TO SET THE TONE.
UM, SO, SO VALUE ENGINEERING, EVEN THEN YOU CAN ONLY GET, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 10, 15% SQUEEZED OUTTA THERE.
SO YOU'VE GOT A CHEAPER LOOKING BUILDING AND YOU STILL AREN'T GONNA GET ALL THE WAY THERE.
SO THEN THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP IS SCOPE REDUCTION, ACTUALLY CUTTING SCOPE.
SO WHAT CAN YOU CUT THAT YOU DON'T NEED? OR DO YOU NEED IT? ALL RIGHT, TWO STORY VERSUS THREE.
IT'S, IT'S A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT DEEP IN ORDER TO PROBABLY MAKE IT INTO THE BUDGET.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT OPTION WOULD BE.
I THINK I, I FEEL LIKE IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE A DEC AN AFFIRMATIVE DECISION THAT SETS THIS PROJECT UP TO SUCCEED, THIS, THIS NEXT STEP IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US.
UH, THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN PRICES TO START TO MATCH WITH WHAT WE'VE WANTED AND THE BUILDING AS IT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THAT LAYOUT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE SET OUT TO BUILD FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
SO WE, WE PUT DOLLARS TOWARDS IT AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE THE BUDGET WORK, BUT IT'S NOT MY FIRST TIME DOING A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
AND IT'S VERY COMMON THAT IT GETS TO THIS POINT.
SO, BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A VOTE AND AFFIRMATIVELY APPROVE AND, UH, DOING THAT, WE'RE GONNA NEED OPTIONS FROM FINANCE.
SO AS I SEE IT, THERE'S THREE OPTIONS.
ONE WOULD BE A GENERAL PACKAGE FOCUSED ON SCOPE REDUCTION.
TWO IS A GENERAL PACKAGE FOCUSED ON CASH FUNDING, AND THREE IS A GENERAL PACKAGE THAT ALSO INCLUDES SOME KIND OF A DEBT COMPONENT, WHETHER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EVEN BE POSSIBLE.
SO WE NEED THOSE THREE SORT OF OPTIONS, UH, BROUGHT BACK.
AND THEN I THINK THAT GIVES US A CHOICE AND THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME COUNCIL DIRECTION TO APPROVE AND GO TO THE NEXT STEP.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, OBJECTIONS TO GIVING STAFF THAT DIRECTION TO BRING BACK CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE? THANK YOU.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD, UH, MAYBE PEREZ GIVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, ON WAYS THAT WE CAN FUND IT.
IF, IF THIS IS A TWO YEAR PROJECT, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE, BUT IF IT IS, MAYBE WE COULD PAY SOME FROM ONE FISCAL YEAR, I THINK THAT WE HAVE, AND THE NEXT, AND THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, UM, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE A THIRD OF WHAT WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED ANYWAYS.
UM, WHAT I DON'T WANNA SEE IS MORE BONDS, MORE FINANCING, MORE BONDS, BECAUSE WITH THE WAY THE ECONOMY IS, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE OUR HOUSING PRICES OR HOUSING VALUES ARE GONNA SUSTAIN WHAT THEY ARE NOW.
SO IF WE GET INTO A YEAR WHERE THE AD VALOREM TAX IS A LOT LESS THAN WE EXPECTED, I DON'T WANT TO, TO HAVE A HALF FINISHED PROJECT.
SO, UM, I, I LOVE PEREZ'S BRAIN AND I LIKE TO PICK IT.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE US SOME OF YOUR ADVICE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD, I'M PEREZ MY CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
UH, I HAVE CAREFULLY REVIEWED THE
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DOCUMENTATION PRESENTED TO YOU IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.THE, IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE A GAP OF ABOUT 4.5 MILLION.
BOND FINANCING IS NOT AN OPTION UNLESS COUNCIL IS WILLING TO RAISE PROPERTY TAXES.
SO THAT OPTION IS OFF THE FLOOR.
SO THAT LEAVES US WITH THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS THAT THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT.
SCOPE REDUCTION OR CASH FINANCING, CASH AS YOU GO.
I DON'T HAVE A, A FIRM ANSWER FOR YOU TONIGHT.
SO LET ME ELABORATE THAT, AND I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THIS INSIGHT BEFORE WE MEET AGAIN.
FIRST YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND AS TODD WENT THROUGH, THIS IS A THREE STORY BUILDING AS 15,000 SQUARE FEET UP TO 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
ABOUT HALF OF IT, ALMOST 7,000 SQUARE FEET IS GONNA BE SHELL SPACE.
SO YOU ARE GONNA NEED MONEY OR KEEP MONEY IN MIND, DEPENDING ON THE FINAL OCCUPANCY FOR FINISH OUT INCENTIVES, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU.
NUMBER TWO, WE DON'T HAVE AN ANCHOR TENANT IDENTIFIED YET, WHETHER FOR THE RESTAURANT OR FOR THE OFFICE SPACE.
NUMBER THREE, THE FINISH OUT BUDGET, THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, IN MY OPINION, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.
A NUMBER OF VERY KEY IMPORTANT ITEMS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
AND I THINK YOU NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THIS IS A THREE STORY STRUCTURE.
THERE'S NO GEOTECH STUDY OR ANALYSIS.
THERE'S NO SURVEY INCLUDED, THERE'S NO COMMISSIONING COST INCLUDED, THERE'S NO ALLEYWAY IMPROVEMENT, COST INCLUDED.
SO THESE ARE MAJOR ITEMS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON AS WE GO THROUGH.
THOSE ARE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE BUDGET AT THIS POINT.
SO THE FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR GAP MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER.
ALTERNATE PARKING, WE MIGHT HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT FOR A BUILDING OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
THE MIXED USE USE SUCH AS RETAIL AND RESTAURANT AND OFFICE SPACE WILL REQUIRE THAT WE INVEST IN ALTERNATE PARKING AROUND THE BUILDING, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
SO FOUR AND A HALF MILLION GAP WITH 50% OF THE STRUCTURE UNFINISHED WITH THESE MAJOR ITEMS UNACCOUNTED FOR YET, IN MY OPINION, YOUR GAP IS CLOSER TO SEVEN TO 8 MILLION.
SO NOW I HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO COME UP WITH FINANCIAL SOLUTIONS TO FILL, TO COVER THIS GAP.
MIND YOU, I CAN'T DO THAT IN A VACUUM BECAUSE I HAVE OTHER PROJECTS, OTHER HIGHER PRIORITY PROJECTS THAT ARE NEAR COMPLETION FOR WHICH I HAVE TO ALSO FIND SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING, NON DEPTH FUNDING SOURCES TO FILL THOSE GAPS.
WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER THIS EVENING.
WE'RE WORKING WITH RYAN, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
THERE'S ALMOST A MILLION DOLLAR GAP THAT WE HAVE TO FILL.
WE HAVE THE RAILROAD CROSSING PROJECT THAT HAS A GAP NOW BECAUSE OF ESCALATION OF COSTS.
THERE ARE ROAD PROJECTS OTHER THAN BOND ROAD PROJECTS THAT HAVE ESCALATIONS.
WE HAVE A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION ON THE HORIZON.
SO I CAN'T DO THIS IN A VACUUM.
I HAVE TO COME BACK WITH A THOUGHTFUL, UH, OPTION FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER.
I WON'T TOUCH THE SCOPE REDUCTION.
I'LL COME BACK WITH COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE.
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NOT TAKING MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND ENDING BALANCE.THAT'S A HIGH RISK PROPOSAL BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO ISSUE DEBT.
WE DON'T WANNA DRAW DOWN OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE AND IMPACT ON OUR RATINGS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY LOOK AT.
SO WE'LL LEAVE THAT ALONE FOR THE TIME BEING.
SO THAT LEAVES US, WHERE DO WE FIND THIS POT OF GOLD TO FINISH THIS PROJECT AND ALL OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
UH, SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT LEAVES US WITH OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING WE MAY HAVE TO TAP INTO SOME ACCELERATED, OH, SORRY, EXPEDITED
THAT'S AN OPTION WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
WE CAN LOOK AT EXPEDITED REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE ROAD BONDS TO THE GENERAL FUND AND FREE THAT MONEY UP.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES.
I'LL NEED TIME TO COME BACK WITH PROPOSALS FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK FUNDING PROPOSALS AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KA THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
SOMETIMES WE REALLY NEED TO HEAR.
[21.
(Second Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 7.17 acres of land from ‘A’ (Agriculture) to ‘CC’ (Community Commercial) for property located on Lot 2, Block A of the Findley Subdivision, in Hays County, Texas. (360 Old Stagecoach Retail, LLC - Z-22-0106) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-1 to recommend approval of the request.
City Council voted 6-0 to approve on First Reading on 11/1/2022.
]NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.THIS IS SECOND READING IN ORDINANCE MEETING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 7.17 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON LOT TWO BLOCK A OF THE FINLEY SUBDIVISION.
UM, THIS ITEM IS SECOND READING, SO IT DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THE DEVELOPER DID EMAIL ME AND PERHAPS OTHERS ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT TO GIVE, UH, THE DEVELOPER AND COUNSEL MORE TIME TO ENGAGE.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCIL.
TOBIAS, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL AS A FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL THE POST MOTION CARRIES SIX TO
[22.
[Postponed 10/3/2022] Approve a development agreement between the City of Kyle and Plum Creek Developers, LLC (Joe Brooks). ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
][23.
[Postponed 10/3/2022] (First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 18.84 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services) to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development) for property located approximately 400’ southwest of the intersection of Marketplace Ave & City Lights Dr. in Hays County, Texas. (Joe Brooks - Z-22-0099) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 3-2 to recommend approval of the request.
City Council voted 6-0 to postpone first reading on 10/18/2022.
- Public Hearing
The public hearing was left open at the 10/18/2022 Council meeting.
]ZERO.UH, NEXT UP IS ANOTHER PAIR OF, UH, POSTPONEMENT ITEMS. AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 22 AND 23.
A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF COLLIN PLUM CREEK DEVELOPERS, LLC, JOE BROOKS.
UH, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23.
FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING.
APPROXIMATELY 18.84 ACRES WILL LAND FROM RS TO P U D, UH, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 400 SOUTH, UH, FEET, SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF MARKETPLACE AVE IN CITY LIGHTS DRIVE IN HAS COUNTY.
UH, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE, UH, THE SECOND ITEM.
IT DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT HAS BEEN LEFT OPEN.
UH, SO IF THERE ARE NO, NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING UP.
SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? UH, AND WILL YOU SAID THAT YOU, UM, GO AHEAD.
THIS IS, THIS IS THE TIME, I THINK, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
THIS IS ALEX BODY, THE NEIGHBOR OF MR. BROOKS.
UH, IS THERE PUBLIC OPENING WILL BE OPENING AGAIN ON THE NEXT ROUND? YES, IT WILL, IT WILL REMAIN OR PROBABLY I NEED TO TALK THEN, THEN PROBABLY.
SO THAT'S WHEN, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE IT UP IF WE'RE GONNA POSTPONE NOW.
BUT I HAVE A CONSULTANT WITH ME, WHICH, UH, DID SOME STUDY.
DO YOU WANT HER TO COME BACK NEXT TIME TOO? OR YOU, YOU LIKE TO HEAR WHAT SHE SAYS? IT'S, IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.
IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK NOW, OTHERWISE.
SO, AND, UH, MR. ATKINSON, I BELIEVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO POSTPONE ACTUALLY UNTIL JANUARY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YOU HAD A DATE IN MIND BASED ON YOUR MATH OF THIS STATUS? YES, SIR.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS 22 AND 23 UNTIL JANUARY 17TH.
MOTION BY MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCIL, TOBIAS, IS OUR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, THERE'S A RECUSAL ON THIS.
[24.
(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 4.01 acres of land from Agriculture 'A' to Retail Service District 'RS' for property located at 23451 IH-35 in Hays County, Texas. (Winn Family Limited Partnership - Z-22-0109). ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 7-0 to approve the request.
- Public Hearing
FIRST READING IN ORDINANCE, SUBMITTING CHAPTER 53 IN THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 4.01 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 23, UH, 4 51 I H 35.
UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED SEVEN OH TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.
THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WILL ATKINSON, FOR THE RECORD PLANNING DIRECTOR, THIS IS PETITION NUMBER Z DASH 22 1 0 9.
UH, THE WIN FAMILY LIMITED PARTNERSHIP IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM, UH, 4.101 ACRES AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES.
UH, RIGHT HERE IS THE, UH, THE IMAGE YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE ON THE MAP.
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SURROUNDED BY, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING KIND OF USES AND WHAT HAVE YOU FROM A BUILT ENVIRONMENT.THIS, THIS IMAGE RIGHT HERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR.
THIS SITE IS LARGELY UNDEVELOPED AND IS BEING USED AS A, A SPOILS YARD FOR THE, UM, FOR THE SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER PROJECT.
UM, THEY'RE USING SOME OF THE FILL FROM THERE TO BRING THEIR, ULTIMATELY THEIR PROJECT UP.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AG, UH, WITH THE IMMEDIATE ACRE, ONE ACRE OF THE SAME PARCEL TO THE NORTH ZONE RETAIL SERVICES.
UH, AGAIN, YOU HAVE CM AND WAREHOUSED AROUND THE SIDES OF IT.
SO THIS AREA OF THE CITY WAS, UH, WAS FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS EXISTING, WAS IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE CITY OF KYLE ANNEXING IT FOR THE MOST PART.
UM, IT HAS, UH, A LOT OF OLDER FACILITIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU THAT, UM, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, IF THEY WAS TO DEVELOP, WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO BUILD IN THAT FASHION.
THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A LOT MORE, UM, ARCHITECTURALLY AND AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
UH, WHEN THE APPLICANT CAME TO TALK TO US ABOUT THIS PROPERTY TO GET IT REZONED, UM, THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE A OR A COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT WOULD FIT ALONG THE I 35 CORRIDOR FROM A REGIONAL NODE PERSPECTIVE.
AND, UH, BUT INITIALLY THEY HAD, UM, WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT MATCHED THE SURROUNDING, UH, ARCHITECTURE AND BUILT USES.
AND WE TOLD 'EM NO BECAUSE THE COMP PLAN DOES NOT SUPPORT IT.
SO THIS IS THE NEXT BEST STEP, UH, POINT OF SALE SERVICE.
UH, THEY DO NOT HAVE AN INTENDED USE IN MIND AT THIS TIME, STRAIGHT ZONING, BUT THEY DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A POSITION TO EITHER LEASE THE PROPERTY, UH, TO SOMEONE TO DEVELOP IT OR SELL IT AT THE TIME, UM, WHEN THE TIMING IS RIGHT AND THEY WANT TO HAVE THE CORRECT ZONING IN PLACE FROM A, UH, FROM A PERMITTING STANDPOINT.
UM, THIS SITE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
UM, IT WILL, IF THE ZONING IS APPROVED, IT'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE APPLIED.
THERE ARE SOME OFFSITE, UH, WATER EXTENSIONS THAT NEED TO BE UPGRADED.
IT WILL GO THROUGH A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
IT WILL ALSO GO THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND A BUILDING PERMIT WHEN IT DOES BE DEVELOPED.
UM, THE CON THE CONDITION, JUST KEEP TALKING.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PER THE GREMLIN.
UH, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AS YOU'LL KNOW, IS A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF IT.
THIS IS THE, THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE AND REQUIRE, UH, VERY HIGH STANDARDS FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT.
WE, THIS WHATEVER DEVELOPS HERE IN THE END, IT WILL STAND OUT AMONGST THE CROWD IN TERMS OF THE BUILDINGS AROUND IT.
SO, UM, FROM THE USE PERSPECTIVE AND FROM THE REQUEST, WE ARE, UM, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF IT.
UH, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS JUST TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR MOTIONS? CUSTOMER, TOBIAS, LIKE, GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL TOBIAS SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24 IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION DISCUSSION REAL QUICK.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT ANY MORE ANIMALS OUT THERE CUZ THERE'S ONLY FOUR ACRES.
UH, BUT DO WE HAVE A GENERAL IDEA, JUST A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT COULD BE THAT USED AS FAR AS RETAIL SERVICES? CAUSE OF COURSE IT'S IN THE COMMERCIAL TRACK YOU GOT MANUFACTURING ROUND AND NOW IF IT GOES THROUGH, GONNA BE RETAIL.
DO WE HAVE AN IDEA AGAIN? I MEAN, IT'S JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC USE THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED, BUT, UM, FROM THE, IN SECTION 53 DASH 1230, THERE'S A USE CHART.
SO THE USES FOR CB ONE, CB TWO RETAIL SERVICES ARE ALLOWED WITH A COUPLE EXCEPTIONS.
UM, THEY WILL NOT LIKELY BE ABLE TO DO A GAS STATION.
THEY CERTAINLY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO A CAR WASH, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THOSE LIMITATIONS IN THAT ZONING ORDINANCE.
BUT, UM, IT'S GONNA BE POINT OF SALE RETAIL AND STUFF THAT WE CAN COLLECT SALES TAX ON, UM, OUT OF ALARM AS WELL.
UM, IT CAN BE A HOTEL, IT CAN BE A RESTAURANT, IT CAN BE AN OFFICE.
UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S LIKE THREE OR 400 USES IN THERE THAT IT CAN BE, BUT THEY ARE GENERALLY FOR A POINT OF SALE GENERAL, UM, CITIZENRY CAN COME IN AND UTILIZE THE SERVICES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CUSTOMER? OH, WELL YOU MENTIONED THEY HAVE TO REPLANT IT.
DOES, IS THAT GONNA STAY FOUR ACRES OR IS IT GONNA BE SUBDIVIDED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY WANT TO DO THERE.
IT CAN BE A SINGLE LOT SUBDIVISION JUST TO ESTABLISH THE PERIMETER BOUNDARIES IN THIS EXISTING STATE.
BUT IT IS A REQUIREMENT THAT WE DO HAVE AND THAT THE STATE DOES HAVE AS WELL.
THE WHAT, THE PART THAT WE ARE STILL DETERMINING IF THE ZONING GOES THROUGH IS IF THEY WILL NEED TO PLAT BASED ON THE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS TO GETTING TO THE SITE.
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WE WILL BE COORDINATING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ALL DONE ABOVE BOARD AND APPROPRIATELY THOUGH.SO WHY, WHY THEY, DID THEY NOT GO THROUGH COMMERCIAL? I MEAN, WOULDN'T IT BE MORE VALUABLE IN COMMERCIAL THAN RETAIL ZONING? I MEAN, RE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING, SIR, IS COMMERCIAL.
UM, THE REASON WHY THEY ARE NOT PURSUING, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, LIKE, LIKE COMMERCIAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
CAUSE THAT'S SEEMS TO BE LIKE WHERE MOST OF THE, UH, MANUFACTURING LITTLE BUILDINGS ARE, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
UM, SO IN 2017, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, VOTED TO REMOVE THE WAREHOUSE AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANUFACTURING ZONING DISTRICTS FROM THE I 35 CORRIDOR.
SO WHEN SOMEONE COMES FORWARD AND WANTS TO SUBMIT FOR A REZONING, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH GIVES US THE FOUNDATION OF WHICH ONES WE CAN SUPPORT.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A LEGAL BASIS.
IT'S ALSO, IT'S ALSO WITHOUT QUESTIONING GOOD PRACTICE TO SUPPORT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN OUR DECISIONS THAT WE, WHEN WE REVIEW STUFF LIKE THIS, THAT WAY WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN OR YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE LIKE INDUSTRIAL, A WELDING SHOP, A TIRE SHOP, CORRECT? RIGHT.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE BIT FITS THERE WITH WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.
BUT FOR IT WAS REMOVED FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT COULD BE LIKE A, A LIKE A FIREHOUSE, YOU KNOW, A FIRESTONE OR A GOOD YEAR.
IT COULD BE THE STUFF ACROSS THE STREET ON, UM, ON FLANKING F150 HERE.
OR IT COULD BE, I MEAN THE, THE ACREAGE IS A LITTLE BIT SMALL, BUT IT COULD BE A BIG BOX STORE, LIKE TARGET AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
IT COULD BE A HOTEL, IT COULD BE A RESTAURANT, YOU NAME IT.
BUT IT WILL, WILL NOT BE, UM, SOME OF THE MORE, IT WON'T BE A MANUFACTURING COMPANY.
IT WILL NOT BE, UH, A WAREHOUSING TYPE COMPANY OR FROM A USE PERSPECTIVE.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO.
[27. (First Reading) An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, Establishing Clearance Requirements for Overhead Electric, Communication, and Cable Television Lines; Providing for violation of the ordinance; Providing a penalty; and Providing for related matters. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27.UH, FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS.
ESTABLISHING CLEAR, UH, CLEARANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR OVERHEAD ELECTRIC COMMUNICATION AND CABLE TELEVISION LINES PROVIDING FOR VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE PENALTY, UH, AND RELATED MATTERS.
MISS SIGNS MAYOR, COUNSEL, PAGE SIGN, CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD, THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHES A MINIMUM VERTICAL, UH, CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE LINES FOR ELECTRICAL LINES, OVERHEAD COMMUNICATION, AND CABLE LINES.
THE COUNSEL REQUESTED, UH, INFORMATION RELATED TO WHAT KIND OF MINIMUM STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS ARE.
MINIMUM STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS ARE 22 FEET FOR ELECTRICAL LINES AND 18 FEET FOR COMMUNICATION AND CABLE LINES.
THE, UM, DEFAULT TO THAT, THEY CAN BE GREATER IF THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC SAFETY CODE REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL CLEARANCE.
UH, AND SO THAT HAS BEEN CODIFIED HERE IN YOUR ORDINANCES FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING YOU AS THE CITY TO ENFORCE THAT PROVISION OF STATE LAW WITH YOUR CITATION AND OTHER ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CUSTOMER FLOOR SKILL? MAYBE NOT SO MANY QUESTIONS, BUT A BIG THANK YOU.
UM, I APPRECIATE THIS ORDINANCE, UH, LIVING RIGHT NEXT ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION, I GUESS WOULD BE, CAN WE MAKE IT SO THEY CAN, LIKE NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BURY THE LINES.
WE ALREADY HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES THAT.
AND YOUR ORDINANCE WITH THE PE P E C I THINK THAT YOU RECENTLY ADOPTED, PUT SAID IN THEIR FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, P E HAS NEGOTIATED SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT THEY, THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE FOR THEIR UTILITIES.
BUT NEW, NEW DEVELOPMENT GOES UNDERGROUND ACCORDANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY ORDINANCE.
AND THEN YOUR FRANCHISE WITH P E ADDRESSES SOME OF THAT AS WELL.
SO IF THE, THE, THE LINES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, UM, DON'T MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS, ARE THEY KIND OF GRANDFATHERED IN OR DO WILL THEY HAVE TO RAISE THE LINES? YOUR ORDINANCES DO NOT REQUIRE EXISTING FACILITIES TO GO UNDERGROUND? NO, NOT UNDERGROUND, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, AT ONE POINT THESE LINES ARE ALMOST EYE LEVEL.
UM, THE, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT OF STATE LAW.
SO STATE LAW ALREADY REQUIRES THIS.
OKAY? AND FOR ELECTRIC UTILITIES, I BELIEVE IT'S ELECTRIC UTILITIES, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ASSESS AND REVIEW THE STATUS OF THEIR LINES EVERY
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YEAR AND REPORT THOSE TO THE PUC.SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF REPORTING AND OVERSIGHT THAT THE COMPANIES ARE SUPPOSED TO ENGAGE IN AND THEN REPORT TO THE STATE.
UM, BUT YOU AS THE CITY CAN ADOPT REGULATIONS AS WELL THAT REQUIRE THEM TO COMPLY.
THERE'S NOT A GRANDFATHERING REQUIREMENT CUZ THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
THIS ALLOWS YOU TO REGULATE THIS OVER THE CITY STREETS.
SO THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE FOCUSING YOUR ATTENTION IS OVER THE CITY STREETS BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR AREA, THAT'S YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY THAT YOU OWN AND MANAGE.
SO LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ONE 50 SINCE THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD, THOSE LINES OVER THERE THAT ARE LOW, WHO WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE, UM, RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE AT THE LEGAL LENGTH.
IF THE ROAD IS IN THE CITY LIMITS, THE CITY REGULATES THE ROAD WITH RESPECT TO COUNTY ROADS WITH THE STATE ROAD.
YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE TO SEE WHETHER THE STATE OR THE CITY REGULATES.
SO NOW IS IT JUST A MATTER OF WE'RE GONNA, I MEAN THERE'S A STATE, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE STATE, BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE FORCES AT THE CITY.
SO THE CITY WOULD LITERALLY HAVE TO GET LIKE A WHOLE DEPARTMENT OR ASSIGN A DEPARTMENT TO GO AND LOOK AT THESE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE, UM, COMPLIANT.
YOU HAVE THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO YOU.
NOW TO ENFORCE THAT, HOW THAT GETS DEPLOYED IS GONNA BE UP TO MANAGEMENT AND RESOURCES.
AGAIN, IT'S ALREADY A REQUIREMENT OF STATE LAW.
OKAY? AND SO THERE SHOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE ANYWAY, WHETHER THERE'S SOME OTHER ENTITY THAT WOULD ASSIST WITH ENFORCEMENT.
I DON'T, I JUST DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, BUT IT'S, YOU HAVE A TOOL AVAILABLE TO YOU NOW.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 27.
SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER FLORES KALE, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? CUSTOMER PARSLEY? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
SO, AND I THINK YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT.
SO WILL WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT REVIEWING THAT IN ORDER TO PUT THE FINES OR WHO WILL BE DOING THAT? WE ALREADY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE ALL THESE LINES ARE AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THE TOOLS, WE CAN DEPLOY CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT DEAL WITH UTILITIES REGULARLY TO FIRST GET COMPLIANCE AND THEN WE CAN USE TEETH IN THE ORDINANCE TO OKAY.
THANK YOU COUNCIL TOBIAS, REAL QUICK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER YVONNE FOR SCALE.
AND I'M SURE MR. ZUNIGA, YOU AND I HAVE LIVED HERE MANY YEARS.
WE'VE SEEN ALL THESE LOW FLYIN, UH, CABLES AND WIRES FROM ONE 50 TO STAGECOACH TO EVERYWHERE.
SO I THINK NOW THIS IS JUST A MORE OR LESS, MORE AMMUNITION FOR US TO USE TO FINALLY GO AFTER SOME OF THESE COMPANIES THAT SAID, HEY LOOK, YOU'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 19 81, 1, YOU NEED FIX YOUR WIRES CUZ IT'S JUST LOOKING HORRIBLE AND IT'S ALSO DANGEROUS.
BECAUSE, UH, WHEN YOU BROUGHT THAT ITEM UP FOR, UH, THE FIRST TIME, YVONNE, WE SAW THAT TRACTOR HIT THAT LINE AND IT JUST BROUGHT DOWN SO MUCH DISRUPTION BUSINESS, UH, DOLLAR GENERAL WAS OUT BUSINESS FOR AT LEAST HALF A DAY TILL THEY GOT ALL THE WIRES AND ALL THE ELECTRICAL GOING.
SO, UH, I'M GLAD WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO START FOCUSING ON THAT AND AT LEAST WE HAVE MORE TOOLS AND THE TOOL BELT TO BE ABLE TO GO AFTER.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, I SUPPORT THAT QUESTION.
SO PROBABLY FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS.
SO WHO MAINTAINS THE POLE THOUGH? SOMETIMES IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE LINES THAT ARE HANGING LOW, IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S JUST THE POLE THAT'S LEANING TOO FAR.
UM, SO DO WE HAVE SOME KIND OF POLICY TO STRAIGHTEN THE ONES THAT ARE LEANING THE MOST? AND THEN THE LINES, I REMEMBER HAVING A STORY WITH A BUSINESS OWNER WHO COULD NOT GET A DUMPSTER, UM, AT HIS LOCATION BECAUSE THE LINE WAS TOO LOW AND THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH CLEARANCE TO, TO BRING IN A WASTE MANAGEMENT DUMP DUMPSTER SO YOU COULD NOT GET IT THERE.
SO THIS WAS IMPACTING, UM, SOME BUSINESS OWNERS.
UM, SO THE POLES BELONGED TO THAT PARTICULAR UTILITY, WHETHER IT'S PC OR WHETHER IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, A CABLE PROVIDER OR, OR THE PHONE COMPANY.
BUT THEY BELONG TO THAT UTILITY, NOT TO US.
BUT WHEN YOU START TO TILT 40 DEGREES, YOU ALMOST SEE IT FALLING OVER.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE SITUATIONS? UM, WE WILL SEND A, UM, WE'LL SEND AN EMAIL TO THEM AND TELL THEM OF THE SITUATION AND UM, NO SIR.
THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS GET THE JOB DONE.
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SIR.HOW CAN WE DO THAT? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, Y'ALL ARE BRINGING UP, YOU KNOW, THOSE LINES THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IN PARTICULAR ON ONE 50, THAT'S A TEXT DOT ROADWAY.
SO THAT RIGHT OF WAY IS ALL TEXT DOT.
SO I THINK PAGE, UH, REFERRED TO IT EARLIER, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH TECH DOT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THERE THAT GIVES US THAT RIGHT.
I'M NOT THE ATTORNEY, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH TEXT.TO GET THEM TO ENFORCEMENT.
IT IS AN ISSUE AND WE DO CALL IT IN CUZ CITIZENS CALL US AND TALK ABOUT IT.
WE IN THE TURN CALL THEM AND THEN BY GETTING THEM TO ACTUALLY DO THAT IS, IS SOMETIMES A DIFFERENT STORY.
SO THEN, UM, NOT TO ADD MORE WORK TO YOUR SCHEDULE, BUT HOW DO WE GET THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND HOW CAN, CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE REVIEW IT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED? BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT, WE KNOW WE HAVE THESE ISSUES, BUT WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE SINCE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE THIS NEW ORDINANCE WITH THE WIRES, IS OKAY, LET'S TAKE SOME ACTION ON HOW TO REALLY FIX UP THAT, THAT LOOK AT LEAST AND HOW DO WE OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION? SO MYSELF, LEON, UH, MR. HENDRICKS, AMBER AND, UM, CHIEF BARNETT WAS IN THE LAST ONE.
WE HAVE A PRETTY REGULAR MEETING WITH, UH, WILLIE FROM TECH DOT.
UM, SO WE CAN TALK WITH HIM AS WELL AND TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.
I KNOW THERE'S DIFFERENT INTERLOCALS THAT WE HAVE WITH TECH DOT, BUT JUST IF SOMETHING COVERS THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT IS WHAT WE'D HAVE TO FIND OUT.
CAN WE, CAN WE DIRECT, CAN I, CAN WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING THAT BACK? CAN I MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT? WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
SO Y'ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT TRYING TO BRING SOMETHING BACK? I, I'LL, I'LL I CAN, ME PERSONALLY I CAN CONTACT, I CAN CONTACT HIM.
I'LL TRY TO FIND OUT WHATEVER THEY HAVE ON FILE FOR US AND THEN, UH, MAYBE JENNIFER CAN TRACK DOWN IF WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM TEXT.AS WELL.
ANY KIND OF INTERLOCAL THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE.
WELL, WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE JUST BIRD DOG ON THAT AND LET'S TAKE THIS WIN.
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD ORDINANCE.
I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AND TO SEE THIS CHANGE.
SO THE GOOD THING ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT.
IT'S ONLY THE TEXT I DEAL THAT WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OLDS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[28. Discussion and possible action regarding review of the City of Kyle's Ordinance Sec. 8-251. - Technical provisions for building around pipelines. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
ITEM 28, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING REVIEW OF THE CITY OF KYLE'S ORDINANCE.UH, UH, SECTION 8, 2 51, TECHNICAL PROVISIONS FOR BUILDING AROUND PIPELINES CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE.
UM, SO IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY A LANDOWNER IN MY DISTRICT THAT, UM, THE CITY HAS A 200 FEET, UM, EASEMENT WITHIN WHEN IT COMES TO A NATURAL GAS PIPELINE.
SO IT'S 200 FEET ON EACH SIDE, SO OF A CERTAIN CIRCUMFERENCE, CORRECT? RIGHT.
UM, AND SO I WAS GENUINELY CURIOUS WHAT THE OTHER CITIES DID BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THIS EASEMENT IT TAKES UP APPROXIMATELY 15 TO 22 ACRES OF HIS LAND MAKING IT NON-USABLE.
UM, AND UM, SO I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHY IT WAS SUCH A BIG EASEMENT.
SO I LOOKED AT SAN MARCOS, DRIPPING SPRINGS AND BUTTA, AND NONE OF THEM HAVE, UM, THE SAME EASEMENT ORDINANCE AT ALL.
AND SO THEN I LOOKED AT THE RAILROAD COMPANY, UM, THAT'S COMPANY, YEAH.
AND SO, UH, THE QUESTION THEY POSE ONLINE IS WHAT IS A TYPICAL WIDTH OF A PIPELINE EASEMENT? AND THEIR ANSWER IS, THERE IS NO STANDARD WIDTH.
USUALLY THE WIDTH OF AN EASEMENT IS SET FORTH AND THE CONTRACT OR THE CONDEMNATION OF, UH, JUDGMENT.
AND SO I GUESS I WOULD LIKE COUNSEL TO REEVALUATE IF WHETHER OR NOT, UH, 200 FEET IS, UM, EXCESSIVE OR IF WE COULD DO WHAT THE REST OF THE STATE REQUIRES, WHICH IS I THINK 50 FEET.
UM, AND JUST TO, TO GET GENERAL FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT.
WELL, I WANNA SAY THAT, UM, IF WE WANT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, WE, WE HAVE BEEN IN A, WE WERE IN A VERY HIGH PROFILE LITIGATION OVER THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, SO IF WE WANTED TO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, WE WOULD, WE'D NEED TO START IT IN EXEC.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A BAD CONVERSATION, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY, IT WAS HIGH PROFILE, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT.
SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY CONVERSATION SO WE COULD PUT THAT IN WITH EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT LEGALITY AS WELL.
WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WHY I, I, I
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HEARD THAT WAS GONNA BE YOUR QUESTION, BUT WE JUST NEED TO GET LEGAL COUNSEL ON IT FIRST.UM, SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE'LL WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE AND THEN WE'LL ADD THAT TO EXEC.
[29. Consider and possible action to authorize the expenditure of funds to pay off the Kyle Housing Authority USDA Loan. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]
NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS TO PAY OFF THE KYLE HOUSING AUTHORITY U S D LOAN.UH, MR. HS, THIS IS BRINGING FORWARD A BUDGETED ITEM TO HELP OUT OUR KYLE HOUSING AUTHORITY BY PAYING OFF THEIR LOAN.
UH, THE CURRENT BALANCE IN THAT LOAN IS $176,847 NO CENTS.
THERE ARE NO FEES OR PREPAYMENT PENALTIES.
AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT TO U S D A DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY OF KYLE.
YOU SAID THE NUMBER AGAIN WAS 1 76 8 1 76.
UH, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE, IN THE BUDGET.
UH, I'M, UH, STILL SUPPORTIVE OF US MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN, SO I WANTED TO HAVE IT BROUGHT FORWARD.
AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANNA SAY ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? CUSTOMER PARSLEY? I'M JUST HAPPY TO SEE IT HERE AND THAT WE CAN HELP THEM OUT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 29.
THE MOTION IS MADE BY COUNCIL MAYOR PARSLEY, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES SCALE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29 AND TO, JUST TO PROVIDE CLARITY, THE AMOUNT OF THE PAYOFF IS $176,847.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? COUNCIL FLORES SCALE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE, IF POSSIBLE SOME KIND OF UPDATES ON, UM, THE PROGRESS OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM, IF WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, PAY OFF THAT DEBT, I WANNA BE KIND OF REASSURED THAT THAT MONEY'S THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME POSITIVE PROGRESSION.
AND WE STILL HAVE A BUDGETED AMOUNT OF $75,000 THAT WAS MATCHED BY THE COUNTY TO GO TOWARDS, UM, REPAIRS AND UPGRADES AND THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.
AND I HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD ON THAT PAYMENT.
SO IF WE GET UPDATES WOULD BE GREAT.
YEAH, AND I WILL SAY I'VE SEEN, AND SO WE LOVE TO SEE THOSE GO TO COUNCIL AS WELL.
JERRY'S DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT, UH, ALL TS ARE DOTTED, I ARE CROSSED AND THAT THAT WE HAVE IS ON HOW THOSE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL A FAVOR SAY AYE.
[XI. Executive Session]
READ OUT EXEC THIS TIME.UH, SO, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28 AS WELL AS THE FOLLOWING.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME DEEM NECESSARY DURING THIS MEETING.
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINING CHAPTER 5 51 IN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING AMY OR ALL THE FOLLOWING TOPICS, ONE, PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR SEEK ADVICE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.071 SAN MARCO AND KYLE EEAA LEASE WATER AGREEMENT DISCUSSION REGARDING 24 3 21 I 35.
AND, UH, NUMBER TWO, POSSIBLE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE FOR VALUE OF REAL ESTATE PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.072 TO DELIBERATE THE PERSON REAL PROPERTY, UH, FOR PUBLIC PER, UH, PURPOSE PROPERTY ACQUISITION.
[31.
Take action on items discussed in Executive Session.
]RECONVENING FROM BACK FROM EX EXECUTIVE SESSION, NO ACTION TAKEN.AND, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TURN SECOND.