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RIGHT.[I. Call Meeting to Order]
EVERYONE.THE TIME IS 8:03 AM IT IS SATURDAY, JANUARY THE 28TH.
IS THAT RIGHT? IS THIS THE 28TH? THEY CAN'T MAKE THE 28TH.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL.
[II. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
PERIOD.AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO SO.
WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
UH, I HAVE ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
FIRST UP, MAYOR MIKE ANDERSON.
WELL, GOOD MORNING THIS SATURDAY MORNING.
I AM PRESENTING TANGLEWOOD PROPERTIES, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, MARKETPLACE GOES THROUGH.
AND I'M JUST SIMPLY HERE THIS MORNING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY.
UH, THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE.
[1. Discussion regarding 2022 Road Bond. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]
DISCUSSION.DISCUSSION REGARDING 2022 ROAD BOND.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, TWO MEETINGS JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE.
WE ALSO HAVE ONE SCHEDULED FOR 10:00 AM FOR COUNCIL TO CONCLUDE BUSINESS FROM OUR LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN TRY, UH, AND KEEP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WORKSHOP BONDS.
UH, IT'S TO TWO HOURS SO THAT WE CAN GAVEL IN AT 10 O'CLOCK FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO, THAT'S MY STATED GOAL, AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN MEET IT.
MR. CAN LUPO, MIKE'S NOT WORKING.
THIS MORNING IS THE WORKSHOP ON OUR KYLE ROAD BONDS THAT YOU REQUESTED, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, OUR GENERAL ENGINEERING CONTRACTOR, JOE CANAL, LUPO, AND HIS TEAM FROM K FREEZE, IS HERE TO PRESENT THE STATUS OF ALL THE ROAD BOND AND PROJECTS AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM YOU ON NEXT STEPS.
SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO JOE AND HIS TEAM.
COUNSEL, UH, THIS JURY SAID, MY NAME IS JOE CANTA LUPO.
I WORK FOR KREEN ASSOCIATES, AND I AM OUR, UH, PROJECT DIRECTOR, OUR PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CITY'S ROAD ROBOT PROGRAM.
UM, WE HAVE A, A PRESENTATION TO GO THROUGH THIS MORNING.
WE THOUGHT THE BEST WAY TO, UH, BRING YOU UP TO SPEED AND, UH, UH, TO, TO HAVE YOU ENGAGE, UM, IN THE PROJECTS, WAS TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THEM.
AND WE'VE GOT A LITTLE, UH, STUFF BEFORE IN TERMS OF REMINDERS.
AND, AND IF WE HAVE TIME, WE'RE GONNA SEEK YOUR INPUT ON HOW WE'D, UM, ON, ON SOME OTHER THINGS.
SO, SO, UH, THIS MORNING WE'D LIKE TO, UM, UM, MAYBE INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
WE DID SOMETHING WE NORMALLY DON'T DO IS, UH, I BROUGHT, UH, SOME OF THE TEAM WITH US.
AND, AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE THE WAY WE'RE ORGANIZED, YOU HAVE EIGHT PROJECTS THAT ARE, UH, PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL, PRETTY BIG.
AND SO, UM, WHILE I MANAGE THE TEAM, UM, WE HAVE QUARTER MANAGERS AND OTHER STAFF THAT, THAT KEEP THIS GOING.
IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A FULL-TIME JOB, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE MORE THAN ONE OR TWO PEOPLE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING MOVING.
SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, HAVE THEM INTRODUCE THEMSELVES VERY, VERY QUICKLY, AND I SHOULD PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE WORN THEM.
YOU GUYS JUST WANT TO GO REAL FAST.
I'M CAROLINE LEK WITH K CREEK.
I'M JENNIFER SULLIVAN WITH KFA.
I'M THE CORRIDOR MANAGER FOR MARKETPLACE AVENUE, WIND HILL ROAD AND CREEK ROAD.
I'M RYAN THOMAS WITH KM, THE CORRIDOR MANAGER, AND KYLE, PETE RANK WITH KFA.
I'M A CORRIDOR MANAGER FOR, UH, SEAT CALLERS AND ONE 50 I, I'M JESSE MILLER GROUP PROJECT SCHEDULES
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MORNING, UH, BILL HARSH WITH THE FRONT ADVISORY SAID, SO AGAIN, THE, THE WAY WE'RE ORGANIZED IS, UM, THE QUARTER MANAGERS WILL MANAGE SORT OF DAY TO DAY ALL THE PROJECTS.UH, RUBY AND CAROLINE ARE ENGINEERS THAT WILL PROVIDE ENGINEERING SUPPORT, UH, TO THE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND TO THE QUARTER MANAGERS.
BILL AND JESSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT WILL HELP US MANAGE THE EXPENDITURES, TRACK THE BUDGETING.
THEY'LL ALSO HELP KEEP THE MASTER'S SCHEDULE IN LINE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF INTERACTIONS, ESPECIALLY AS THE PROJECTS GET THROUGH DESIGN AND GO INTO RIGHT OF WING UTILITY COORDINATION.
AND IT IS, UH, UM, NOT, UM, A SMALL UNDERTAKING TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN LINE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO THE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA HELP US, UM, MEASURE OUR PERFORMANCE.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANT TO KNOW IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DOING THE JOB WE SET OUT TO DO.
AND SO THEY'LL KEEP, UH, THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND THEY'LL BE A BIG PART OF THE REPORTING WE DO TO YOU FROM TIME TO TIME TO LET YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE ON TRACK AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE GOALS FOR THE MEETING.
WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK SORT OF STATUS OF WHERE THINGS HAVE BEEN AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND THEN, UH, WE'LL SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME ON REVIEWING THE PROJECTS.
AND IF WE HAVE TIME, WE'D LIKE A LITTLE FEEDBACK ON, ON, UM, HOW WE'D LIKE TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE.
TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION AND THE UPDATES YOU NEED WHEN YOU WANT THEM IN THE FORMAT YOU NEED.
AND THEN WE'LL JUST REVIEW NEXT STEPS.
SO OUR GOALS FOR THIS MEETING, I SAID WE WANNA REVIEW THE PROGRAM STATUS, WE WANNA REVIEW THE PROJECT SCOPES BASED ON THOSE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS THAT WE DID LAST, UH, SUMMER, AND THAT, UM, WERE USED TO HELP PREPARE FOR THE BOND AND, UH, THE LITTLE BIT OF STAKEHOLDER COORDINATION THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR WHEN WE WERE HERE IN DECEMBER, UH, TO GIVE AN UPDATE COUNCIL MEETING, RIGHT? YOU'D ASKED US NOT TO REALLY GET TOO FAR AHEAD UNTIL WE HAD A CHANCE TO SIT WITH YOU AND TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PROJECTS.
UM, SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT SICKLE COORDINATION, IT IS, UM, WITH STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE EITHER REACHED OUT TO STAFF OR HAVE REACHED OUT TO US FOR A STATUS OR TO JUST, YOU KNOW, GET SOME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
UM, AND THEN WE WANT TO AGAIN, DETERMINE A PATH FORWARD FOR COUNCIL UPDATES AND TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.
SO JUST, YOU'VE SEEN THIS A A LOT, UH, BUT WE JUST, I JUST THOUGHT WE'D THROW IT UP AND JUST REMIND EVERYONE WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE.
THIS IS AN ORDER YOU'RE NOT USED TO SEEING THEM IN.
UM, AND WE REORDERED THEM FOR TODAY BECAUSE, AND THIS IS JUST, UH, A, A JUDGMENT ON OUR PART.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT APPEAR TO BE A LITTLE MORE, UM, STRAIGHTFORWARD THAN OTHERS.
UM, AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO, TO SORT OF ORDER THEM IN IN THAT WAY.
UM, I, I GUESS IN A WAY TO JUST WARM US UP, MAYBE TO TALK ABOUT MORE COMPLICATED THINGS AND, AND, AND THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LIMITS, THE LENGTH OF THE, OF EACH PROJECT.
AND THEN WITH THE BUDGETED COST IS, AND THEN WE ALWAYS SHOW THIS MAP, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BLUE LINES, THE BLUE PROJECTS ARE THE ONES THAT INVOLVE UPGRADING EXISTING FACILITIES.
AND THE RED ONES ARE, UH, WHAT WE CALL GREENFIELD OR, OR NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
AND IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD REMINDER, WE THINK, TO SHOW, UM, HOW THE PROJECTS ARE DISTRIBUTED, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO, AGAIN, SINCE THE BOND PASSED, RIGHT, UH, WE WERE WAITING TO TALK TO COUNCIL AND WE'RE NOT DOING A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE THE FEEDBACK WE GOT WAS WE, YOU WANTED TO ENGAGE AND REVIEW EVERYTHING, BUT THERE WERE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO AND KEEP WORKING ON THAT DIDN'T TAKE A LOT OF TIME OR EFFORT THAT WOULD PUT US IN THE POSITION TO START QUICKLY ONCE WE ALL AGREED THAT IT WAS TIME TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WERE WAS WE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, THOSE FIRMS THAT WERE SELECTED TO DO THE ACTUAL DESIGNS ON THE DRAFTS, DRAFT SCOPES AND FEES FOR THE PROJECTS.
NOW, THOSE AREN'T COMPLETE, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN THOSE TO THE POINT WHERE, UH, DEPENDING ON THE DIRECTION WE'RE GIVEN TODAY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THOSE QUICKLY, BRING THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
AND THIS WAY WE'RE NOT LOSING ANY MORE TIME DEVELOPING SCOPES AND FEES.
WE ALSO HAVE STARTED TO PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT MESS OF SCHEDULE BASED ON THE INITIAL PROJECT SCOPES.
AND WE WILL FINISH THAT AGAIN ONCE WE GET STARTED AND WE WILL COME BACK.
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I'LL PROBABLY COME BACK DURING, UM, A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING OR WORKSHOP, WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE TO SHOW YOU HOW THE MASTER SCHEDULE IS, IS, IS, IS LAYING OUT AND WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT IN TERMS OF, UM, NOT ONLY EACH PROJECT, BUT ALSO THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE WHEN PROJECTS WE THINK WILL BE THROUGH DESIGN, WHEN THEY'LL GO INTO RIGHT OF WAY AND UTILITY COORDINATION, AND THEN WHEN THEY'LL GO INTO CONSTRUCTION.AND THEN WE'VE ALSO, AGAIN, BEEN COORDINATING WITH MOSTLY DEVELOPERS.
A FEW PROPERTY OWNERS WE'RE APPLICABLE, AND AGAIN, WE'RE APPLICABLE MEANS WHEN THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO US AND WANTED AN UPDATE OR SHARE SOME IDEAS OR SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WAS THINKING IN TERMS OF EACH PROJECT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE PROJECTS NOW AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, UM, IF YOU WANT ME TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH AFTER THESE PROJECT, SO ASK QUESTIONS OR YOU JUST WANT TO PEPPER ME WITH THEM AS THEY COME UP.
SO THE, THE WINDY HILL ROAD PROJECT IS, UH, ADDING CAPACITY, RIGHT? IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, UM, ADDING CAPACITY TO WINDY HILL FROM ABOUT PURPLE MARTIN AVENUE ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE I 35 FRONTAGE LANE.
AND IT DOES, UM, INVOLVE A LITTLE BIT OF A REALIGNMENT.
AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THAT TYPICAL SECTION OR THE CROSS SECTION, IT IS TORE, MAKE SURE THAT THAT PORTION OF WINDY HILL ROAD IS TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND, UH, A TURN LANE, UH, IN THE MIDDLE, THE BUDGETED COSTS FOR THAT PROJECT IS ABOUT $15 MILLION.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT BULLET, IT SAYS PART OF A COMBINED TEXT AFA.
I'M GONNA TAKE A FEW SECONDS HERE AND EXPLAIN WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT.
A FEW OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE AUTHORIZED ARE ON THE TECH DOT ROADWAY SYSTEM, AND WHENEVER YOU WORK ON THE TECH DOT ROADWAY SYSTEM, YOU NEED TO ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY NEED TO GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO WORK ON THEIR SYSTEM TO IMPROVE IT FOR THEM.
AND SO THAT AGREEMENT IS CALLED AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT.
AND, AND TO OUR WAY OF THINKING, IT'S A LITTLE MISLEADING BECAUSE THOSE AGREEMENTS DON'T ALWAYS INVOLVE MONEY.
BUT, BUT THAT AFA, AS WE CALL IT, IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN, IN THIS CASE THE CITY AND TECH DOT, THAT THE CITY COULD DEVELOP A PROJECT AND IMPLEMENT A PROJECT ON TECH DOT'S ROAD.
AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, IT REQUIRES A LOT OF, UH, UPFRONT AGREEING AND A LOT OF COORDINATION.
AND THE OTHER SET OF PROJECTS, RIGHT? THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS THAT CONNECT TO THE TECH DOT SYSTEM, RIGHT? THEY INTERSECT, RIGHT, LIKE AN INTERSECTION.
THEY'RE NOT ON THE TECH DOT SYSTEM.
THOSE ALSO NEED A, A LEVEL OF COORDINATION AND PERMISSION FROM TECH DOT, BUT IT'S NOT AS GREAT AS IF YOU'RE WORKING ON THEIR SYSTEM.
AND SO WE ARE ABLE TO COMBINE ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT SIMPLY CONNECT TO TECH DOT THROUGH WHAT WE CALL A COMBINED TECH DOT AFA.
SO WENDY HILL ROAD IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE WILL NEED TO COORDINATE WITH TECH DOT, BUT IT'S SORT OF A, A, A, A LESSER AMOUNT OR LOWER LEVEL OF COORDINATION.
UM, FOR CLARIFICATION, IS JOANNE HERE? OKAY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE THE RIGHT SCOPE BECAUSE, UM, I BELIEVE FROM CHERRY WOOD TO PURPLE MARTIN WAS ALREADY WORKED ON BY THE COUNTY AND JOANNE WORKED COLLECTIVELY WITH THEM.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE BUDGETING FOR THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF ROAD.
PART AND PART OF WHAT I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED IS AFTER TODAY, RIGHT, ASSUMING WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND AND DOUBLE CHECK ALL THE SCOPES, THE LIMITS, UM, AND JUST MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS, IS WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
THERE ARE LOTS OF MOVING PARTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF US TO DOING THAT.
WE ALWAYS HAVE TO GO BACK AND RE AND RECERT REGROUP ON, RECYCLE ON.
SO THAT WAS WINDY HILL, AND NOW WE, NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE, UH, TO MARKETPLACE.
SO THIS PROJECT IS GONNA CONNECT THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN SEGMENTS OF MARKETPLACE AVENUE, UM, THE EXISTING SEGMENT FROM 1626 TO OLD BRIDGE TRAIL.
THAT'S AN EXISTING SEGMENT, BUT IT'S GONNA BE IMPROVED TO MATCH THE NEW PIECE.
AND THAT NEW PIECE IS GONNA HAVE TWO 12 FOOT LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
IT'LL HAVE A MEDIAN, UH, AND IT'LL HAVE, UH, SIDEWALKS, UM, ON, ON EITHER SIDE THE BUDGETED COST FOR THIS PROJECT AS 11 POINT, UH, $2 MILLION.
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SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE BELIEVE CAN GO TO STRAIGHT TO PLAN SPECIFICATIONS AND, AND, AND ESTIMATES, RIGHT? WE CAN GO, WE CALL IT PS AND E.WHEN WE DEVELOP ROAD PROJECTS, WE USUALLY DEVELOP A SCHEMATIC DESIGN, WHICH WE ALL CALL 30%, WHICH STARTS TO LAY OUT THE BASIC ELEMENTS OF A PROJECT AND THE ALIGNMENT.
BUT WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE, WE TRIED TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY PROJECTS THAT COULD SKIP THAT FULL SCHEMATIC PHASE.
AND WHEN WE DID THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS AND WE LOOKED AT MARKETPLACE, WHAT WE REALIZED IS DETERMINING THE ALIGNMENT IS PROBABLY COULD BE A VERY SIMPLE MATTER, RIGHT? UM, THERE'S ONE PROPERTY OWNER, THERE'S A DEFINED BEGINNING AND THERE'S A DEFINED END.
THERE'S NO EXISTING UTILITIES REALLY TO MOVE.
AND SO OUR ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF CLEANUP WORK ON THE P E R AND THAT PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT, WE CAN SKIP THAT SOMATIC PHASE AND GO STRAIGHT INTO ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CITY'S READY TO HAVE US DO THAT.
UM, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS, UH, OF MONEY IN TERMS OF THE ROAD PROJECT, AND IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS, UH, OF, OF TIME.
THIS PROJECT IS ALSO PART OF A COMBINED AFA WITH TECH DOT, MEANING THAT WHILE MARKETPLACE IS NOT A STATE ROAD, IT DOES CONNECT TO 1626.
SO THERE'S A LEVEL OF COORDINATION THERE.
UM, THIS IS ALSO ONE OF THE PROJECTS WHERE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER REACHED OUT TO US, UH, AND, AND WANTED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFIC ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT.
AND WE SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND WORKED THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, AND FIGURED THAT IT WOULD BE BEST, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROJECT IF THE VIBE CROSSED AT ALBRIDGE TRAIL, BECAUSE THAT WOULD REDUCE THE RIGHT OF WAY NEEDS, UH, AND THE NEEDS FOR DETENTION OF, OF, OF, OF WATER.
AND SO WE, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, A LITTLE BIT AHEAD ON THINKING THROUGH WHAT THIS FINAL SCOPE WOULD BE.
AND AGAIN, WHEN THE CITY HAS FIGURED EVERYTHING ELSE IT HAS TO FIGURE OUT WITH, WITH PROJECTS LIKE THIS, UH, WE'LL BE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS PURELY FROM A ROAD POINT OF VIEW.
UH, THIS, UH, DOES NOT INVOLVE, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE UNDERLYING LAND USE DECISIONS, UH, THAT WILL BE MADE.
BUT, SO THE PATH FORWARD FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, TRY TO ADDRESS WATER QUALITY.
IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, UH, BUT CITY STAFF HAS INDICATED THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN BUILD SOME WATER QUALITY FEATURES INTO THE PROJECT.
UM, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT CITY OWNED UTILITIES ARE IN THE SCOPE.
UH, THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE COST ESTIMATE.
WE NOT WANT TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN SCOPE AND FEE FOR THE DESIGN ENGINEER.
JUST, AGAIN, IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ALL THESE THINGS WE NEED TO TIDY UP AS WE GO AND FINALIZE THOSE DESIGN SCOPES.
UH, JUST LOOKING AT BACK AT THAT WINDY HILL, UH, THE CURVATURE IS, WAS THAT, IS THAT JUST A, A SKETCH THE WAY IT LOOKS? WILL IT ACTUALLY BRANCH A LITTLE BETTER? I GUESS WHY INTO 35? THE THE, THEY'RE GONNA LAUGH BECAUSE I'M GONNA USE THE WORD IDEALIZED.
THE, THE, THERE IS, UM, THE CURRENT PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT, THE CURRENT SCHEMATIC DOES HAVE THAT CURVE ON WINDY HILL BEING, UH, MADE BETTER, BEING STRAIGHTENED OUT SOMEWHAT.
AND, UM, AND THAT WILL DEPEND A LOT ON, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHEN WE BEGIN CO COORDINATION WITH THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY OWNER.
BUT IT DOES INCLUDE A, A SOMEWHAT STRAIGHTENING OUT OF, OF THE ROADWAY.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF ADDING TO THE CAPACITY WHEN YOU CAN REMOVE THINGS LIKE NASTY CURVES.
IT, IT HELPS PRESERVE AND, AND BEEF UP THE CAPACITY A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S, IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS WIDENING IT, BUT IT HELPS A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN IT DOESN'T HAVE SIDEWALKS BECAUSE, UH, WHY? YEAH, THERE ARE TWO FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS.
AND I'M, I, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT AND I APOLOGIZE.
IT JUST, IT DIDN'T HAVE IT ON THE, UM, SKETCH IT, BUT THEN WE CAN ASSUME THOSE ARE SIDEWALKS THEN R RIGHT.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT FIVE FOOT STRIP, AND THEN ON OTHERS YOU'LL SEE A 10 FOOT STRIP, AND THAT'S, YOU'LL SAY S U MM-HMM.
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SO NEXT I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO KYLE PARKWAY.SO THIS IS ACTUALLY, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE DIAGRAM IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, TWO PIECES, RIGHT? UM, THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT EXTENDS LEHMAN ROAD, UM, FROM BUNTON CREEK ROAD TO D LANE, AND IT EXTENDS KYLE PARKWAY INTO THE LEHMAN ROAD EXTENSION.
UM, AND THE BUDGETED COST FOR THIS IS 42.3 MILLION.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS TWO 12 FOOT LANES, NO, UH, CENTER TURN LANE.
UH, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS A, A, ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE WE BELIEVE IT CAN GO, UM, STRAIGHT TO P S N E.
UH, AND AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CLEANING UP OF THE SCHEMATIC WORK THAT WAS DONE IN THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT.
UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FULL SCHEMATIC PHASE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE, UH, SOME SAVINGS, SOME TIME, SOME SAVINGS OF MONEY.
AND THIS IS A PROJECT, AND THERE ARE A FEW LIKE THIS WHERE THE ALLIANCE REGIONAL, UH, WATER FOLKS, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE PLANNING A BIG WATERLINE THAT COME THROUGH THE CITY AND TO SERVE THE CITY.
AND THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS WHERE THE ARWA WATERLINE CONFLICTS POTENTIALLY WITH THE ROAD BOUND PROJECTS.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WE DID A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS BEGIN A CONVERSATION WITH ARWA.
UM, NOW LUCKILY ARWA HAS, THEY WERE AWARE THAT THE CITY WAS WORKING ON A SET OF BOND PROJECTS.
THEY WERE AWARE THAT SOME OF THE PROJECTS WOULD BE IN AREAS WHERE THEY WANTED TO PLACE THE WATERLINE.
SO WHAT WE LEARNED IS WE HAVE SOME TIME, RIGHT, TO BETTER COORDINATE WITH THEM TO SEE HOW YOU RESOLVE THE CONFLICTS.
AND, AND, AND IN SOME CASES THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MAY HAVE TO MOVE THEIR WATERLINE A LITTLE BIT, SHIFT IT, AND IN SOME CASES WE MIGHT, UH, MODIFY, YOU KNOW, HOW THE ROAD CROSSES, THE WATERLINE OF THE WATERLINE GOES UNDER THE ROAD.
BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS WHERE WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA WAIT TOO MUCH LONGER BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA HOLD THE AROR FOLKS UP BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE CITY FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER REASONS.
SO THIS, THERE WERE TWO ALTERNATIVES, UH, PREPARED FOR THIS AND, AND REALLY GOTTA LOOK AT THOSE DIAGRAMS TO UNDERSTAND.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH UNLESS WE GET DIFFERENT ADVICE, IS WE'RE ELIMINATING ALTERNATIVE ONE.
AND IT, THERE IS NO REAL BIG DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF HOW THOSE TWO ALTERNATIVES WILL ULTIMATELY FUNCTION.
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE IN THE ALIGNMENT AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE PLACED.
UM, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT OR HOW IT WILL ULTIMATELY FUNCTION, BUT IT DOES ALLOW US, UM, YOU KNOW, TO MINIMIZE RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION AND, AND INTERRUPTIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE ROAD GOING THROUGH.
IF WE PICK ALTERNATIVE, UH, TWO, THE OTHER THING WE WANT TO DO IS, UM, AT THE INTERSECTION OF LEHMAN AND BUTTON CREEK, RIGHT? THERE'S A PLANNED ROUNDABOUT.
BUT AS WE LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TO THE SCOPE OF THE DESIGN ENGINEERS IS THAT A, UM, UM, AN ANALYSIS OF A, OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
WE WANT TO COMPARE WHAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WOULD DO AND HOW IT OPERATE COMPARED TO A ROUNDABOUT.
AND THE REASON IS THAT IT'S VERY CLOSE TO A SCHOOL AND WHY ROUNDABOUTS GET BUILT THEIR ACTIVITY CENTERS LIKE SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, QUITE OFTEN AND THEY FUNCTION WELL.
WE THOUGHT THIS IS SO IMPORTANT THAT IT'S BETTER TO JUST SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME UP FRONT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SEE WHAT'S BETTER.
A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, A ROUNDABOUT.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, DOING TOO.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS WE'LL MAKE TO THE DESIGN SCOPES TO MAKE SURE IT'S BUILT IN FROM THE BEGINNING.
WOULD I LOOK BETTER WHEN NO ONE ASKS QUESTIONS OR WHEN I
I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE LOOKS LIKE THE, THE COMPLICATED ONE LAYMAN.
AND, UH, WELL REMEMBER, COUNCIL,
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REMEMBER WE'RE GOING DOWN A LIST AND THE MORE COMPLICATED ONE, IT'S GONNA GET WORSE.OH, I CAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE, I DON'T, I DIDN'T SAY WORSE.
THEY JUST GET MORE INTERESTING AND FUN.
UM, I FEEL LIKE WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THESE, THAT THIS, THE, THIS, THESE ROADS ALSO INTERSECT WITH ANOTHER ROAD GOING, UH, MORE NORTH.
AND SO WHEN YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR ROUNDABOUT STUDY, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CONSIDERATION HOW THAT ADDITIONAL FEATURE, YOU KNOW, ROAD ADDING IS GOING TO ALSO ELIMINATE, UM, CONGESTION.
AND SO THAT I, SOMETIMES I'M SCARED WE JUST LOOK AT LIKE LITTLE CIRCLE PARTS, YOU KNOW, AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, I FEEL LIKE IT, IT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A ROUNDABOUT BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO A SCHOOL.
BUT ALSO IF WE LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, THEN WE SEE, OKAY, WELL ALL THIS TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE LESS CONGESTED AS IT GOES OUT.
SO I GUESS MY ASK IS THAT YOU JUST LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE, WHICH I HAVE NO DOUBT YOU'LL DO.
BUT I KNOW WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THESE, HOW THEY CONNECT TO OTHER ROADS, UM, AND HOW I WAS LIKE, OH, OKAY, WELL THAT IF THEY DO, IF IT GOES UP HERE AND IT SPLITS OFF, THEN IT'S GONNA BE EVEN EASIER FOR THE TRAFFIC AT, YOU KNOW, AT AT THIS INTERSECTION.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOPING OUR STAFF IN.
UM, CUZ WHEN I HAD A MEETING WITH THEM, THEY HAD, UM, SOME GOOD IDEAS ABOUT THE NATURAL FLOW.
AND SO IF WE COULD WORK WITH THE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL, UM, ABOUT THE NATURAL FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND I THINK IT JUST, IT COMES OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT IT MAKES MORE SENSE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
SO NORMALLY IN A, I START TO GET SIDEWAYS, ONE OF THEM PROBABLY PEOPLE WILL INTERRUPT ME, BUT, UM, WHEN THEY DO, UH, AN ANALYSIS OF AN INTERSECTION, THEY DO LOOK TO A CERTAIN EXTENT AT BACKGROUND GROWTH IN IN TRAFFIC.
IF YOU'RE ASKING RIGHT, IF, IF COUNCIL WISHES US TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY LOOK AT A LITTLE IN GREATER DETAIL TO THE IMPACT SYSTEM SURROUNDING ROADS, WE CAN MAKE SURE AND AND, AND SEE THAT THEY BUILD THAT INTO THE ANALYSIS.
UM, I, I THINK THOUGH, AT LEAST FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO STUDY A LARGE AREA CUZ THAT'S A, A, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF STUDY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO DO LIKE AN AREA WIDE MODEL.
BUT CERTAINLY MAKING SURE THAT THIS INTERSECTION DOESN'T CAUSE OTHER SURROUNDING ROADWAYS TO GET OUT OF, YOU KNOW, TO GET OUTTA SORTS IS SOMETHING WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE BUILDING.
I THINK, I THINK I'M SAYING THE OPPOSITE, OH, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THE OPPOSITE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH GOOD, UM, CHANGES TO THE EAST SIDE.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO LOOK AT IT COLLECTIVELY INSTEAD OF JUST INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE THE MORE THAT THEY UPDATE ROADS, THE MORE I SEE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC GOING A LOT SMOOTHER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
WHEREAS LIKE ON THE WEST SIDE, I FEEL LIKE IT IS VERY PIECED AND INDIVIDUALIZED ON THE, ON THE EAST SIDE WHEN YOU DO ALL OF IT, IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL COMING TOGETHER TO MAKE THE WHOLE FLOW OF THE EAST SIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE SMOOTHER.
I I I UNDERSTAND IT, IT, IT IS THAT IS, THAT GETS BEYOND ANY ONE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.
IF, IF YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT AN ENTIRE AREA THAT'S A, A A, A MUCH DIFFERENT EFFORT, IT, IT GETS BEYOND ONE PROJECT.
I GUESS JUST TO BE CLEAR, I I, I'D LIKE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL TO, TO KIND OF DECIDE IF WE WANNA DO THAT OR NOT.
UM, BECAUSE HE'S, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT, IS THAT GONNA BE A DIFFERENT COST OR HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT, IT, IT, IT WOULD BE, AND I DON'T KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO RIGHT SCOPE IT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, IT WOULD BE, UH, UH, A MUCH DIFFERENT COST AND IT WOULD BE, UM, UM, IF WE COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGNING OF OTHER PROJECTS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TEST 'EM COLLECTIVELY, IT WOULD ADD A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME AND WE DON'T, WE'D HAVE TO GO, WELL, WE COULD FIND SOMEONE TO HELP US WITH IT.
THEY MAKE A GOOD POINT, RIGHT? IS THAT THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, RIGHT? DID LOOK AT HOW THE WHOLE SYSTEM WOULD COME TOGETHER AND THAT'S HOW THOSE PROJECTS GOT ON THE MASTER PLAN AND THESE PROJECTS CAME OUT OUT OF YOUR MASTER PLAN.
SO TO, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT.
SO PARKWAY EXIT, IS THAT OPEN GREEN SPACE RIGHT NOW? OR IS THAT A ROAD THAT EXISTS? UM, NONE OF THIS IS A NEW ROAD THROUGH SUBDIVISIONS, RIGHT? OH, NO, NO, NO, NO.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UNDEVELOPED LAND RIGHT NOW.
THESE ARE UM, RIGHT, WE CALL THEM GREENFIELD.
EVERYTHING YOU'RE, EVERYTHING ON ON THE PROPOSAL IS A GREENFIELD RIGHT NOW ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
NOT ALL THE PROJECTS ARE WHERE WE'LL HAVE TO WIDEN WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.
THO THOSE ARE THE MORE INTERESTING PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE LIST THIS
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MORNING.STAGE COACH, OLD STAGE COACH JORDAN, CENTER STREET AND, AND YOU'LL SEE IN PARENTHESES IT SAYS OFF SYSTEM.
UM, AND WE'RE DISTINGUISHING BETWEEN, AGAIN, OFF SYSTEM, WHICH IS A NON-TEXT DOT ROAD.
AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE ON SYSTEM PORTION.
SO THIS PROJECT IS GONNA IMPROVE OLD STATES COACH ROAD FROM ONE 50 TO CENTER STREET.
AND THAT, UM, IS ABOUT A 28 20 9 MILLION PROJECT.
AND IT WILL ALSO IMPROVE CENTER STREET FROM OLD STATES COACH ROAD TO VETERANS DRIVE.
THAT IS THE PORTION OF CENTER STREET THAT IS A NON, UH, TECHO ROAD.
AND THAT'S AGAIN WHY WE SEPARATED THEM THE OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS FOR TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, UM, AND, AND SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE.
AND THE SAME THING WITH THE CENTER STREET, UH, PORTION OF IT.
TWO, OH, SORRY, TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
12 FEET AND, AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES ON EITHER SIDE.
THIS PROJECT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY BECAUSE BEFORE THE, THE BOND WAS BROUGHT TO LIFE AND WE WERE ENGAGED, THE CITY HAD 30% PLANS DONE BACK IN, IN 2019.
UM, AND WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT IT, RIGHT, THE, THERE WERE A COUPLE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE, RIGHT? WE MOVED THE INTERSECTION, THE INTERSECTION AT THE FOUR NORTH OF THE PROJECT AT ONE 50 INVENTORS DRIVE WAS MOVING TO THE CENTER STREET PROJECT, THE ON SYSTEM PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
THOSE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST THOUGHT IT'D BE EASIER TO ADMINISTER IT THAT WAY.
UM, AND THEN AS WE BRING THIS THROUGH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, RAISED TO US AND AND WE HAD STARTED TO ZOOM IN ON IS THAT WHILE THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, WHILE THE CITY'S PLANTS IS TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU LOOK AT OLD STATES COACH ROAD AND THE OFF SYSTEM PORTION OF CENTER STREET, THE RIGHT OF WAY REQUIREMENTS ARE, ARE EXTREMELY, YOU KNOW, INTENSE, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE, AND IT WOULD BE A HUGE INTERRUPTION MORE THAN AVERAGE SAY TO THE, TO THE PROPERTIES ALONG THAT.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL GO BACK AND DO IS SEE WHETHER OR NOT A THREE-LANE SECTION MAKES SENSE.
AND, AND OUR GUT REACTION IS THAT A THREE-LANE SECTION WHEN TRAVELING IN EACH DIRECTION WITH A CENTER TURN LANE WILL MAKE SENSE FOR THAT WHEN YOU WEIGH IT AGAINST THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON PROPERTY OWNERS.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA LOSE A WHOLE LOT IN TERMS OF OPERATION OF THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE CENTER TURN LANE.
BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU WEIGH THAT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY ON IT.
WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS, IS, IS ADD THE FOUR LANES AND THEN JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, HAVE A DEVASTATING EFFECT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
SO WE ARE LEANING TOWARD A THREE LANE SECTION, ALTHOUGH THE PLAN SAID IN THE INITIAL SCHEMATIC WAS DONE SHOWING A FOUR LANE SECTION.
AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE YOU TO BE AWARE OF IS THAT EVERYTHING ELSE BEING EQUAL, IF WE'RE LEFT TO OUR OWN, WE WILL KNOCK THAT DOWN PROBABLY TO A THREE LANE SECTION.
MY FIRST ONE IS, ARE YOU GUYS GONNA GET WITH WALLACE MIDDLE SCHOOL? CAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES OUT THERE AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE ADDRESSED WHILE WE'RE LAYING DOWN THE ROADS.
UM, SO WHEN THIS ALL GEARS UP, RIGHT, AND WE KICK IN THE HIGH GEAR, UM, IT, IT'S NOT ONLY THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE WILL COORDINATE WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS AND WITH ANY TRANSPORTATION PROJECT THAT WE DO OR OTHER EN ENGINE ENGINEERS DO ANYWAY, DRAINAGE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE PAY ATTENTION TO, RIGHT? UM, UH, TRANSPORTATION PROJECT CANNOT MAKE DRAINAGE ISSUES ANY WORSE.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE TRY AND DO, UM, AND IT JUST SORT OF HAPPENS NATURALLY, IS YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THEM A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER, IT JUST WON'T BE WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT DRAINAGE ISSUES FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS WILL BE LOOKED AT.
AND THEN CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT A ZIGZAG IS ON HERE? IT SAYS, UM, DESIRE TO ZIGZAG CENTER STREET FOR TRAFFIC CALMING.
AND I TRIED TO GOOGLE THAT, BUT I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS, SO JUST THINK ABOUT IT AS IF YOU'RE ON THE ROAD AND YOU'RE, UM, DON'T THINK VERTICALLY, THINK HORIZONTALLY AND ZIGZAG IS, INSTEAD OF GOING A STRAIGHT LINE, YOU WOULD ZIGZAG THE ROAD.
AND, AND THE IDEA IS THAT, UM, IF YOU ADD SOME HORIZONTAL DEFLECTION, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU COME OFF STRAIGHT THAT PEOPLE WILL SLOW DOWN AND PAY ATTENTION MORE.
AND THAT COMES IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT FORMATS WHEN YOU'RE IN A, LIKE A MORE URBAN ENVIRONMENT, LIKE THIS PIECE IS CENTER STREET.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WILL HAPPEN HERE, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL TAKE THE
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CORNERS AND BULB THEM OUT.UM, AND SO PEOPLE WILL, WILL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD'S SORT OF CLOSING IN ON 'EM AND SLOW DOWN.
UM, BUT, BUT IT IS A, IT CAN BE A FORM OF, OF TRAFFIC COMING, YOU KNOW, TO ADD THAT LITTLE BIT OF HORIZONTAL DEFLECTION.
BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, RIGHT? WHETHER THEY MAKE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH DESIGN REALLY DEPENDS ON WEIGHING IT AGAINST, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AND, AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THESE PROJECTS WILL HAVE NO IMPACT, BUT OUR JOB IS RIGHT, IS TO, TO HELP CORRECT, FOR EXAMPLE, DRAINAGE ISSUES.
AND OUR JOB IS TO MINIMIZE WHERE WE CAN IMPACTS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UH, SO I JUST HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.
SO ON THE OLD STAGE COACH AND THE CENTER STREET, UM, SO YOU DESIGNED FOR FOUR LANES.
ARE DID YOU, DID YOU SUGGEST YOU'RE GONNA NOW JUST DO IT ALL THREE LANE? N N NO SIR, WE'RE ONLY A SEGMENT OF IT BECAUSE I, CUZ I LIVE OFF OF ONE 50 AND THAT'S THREE LANES.
I THINK WE WOULD ALL LOVE FOUR.
SO, UM, IS THIS A HEAVY DENSE AREA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO THREE LANES? SO THE ROAD'S NOT DESIGNED YET.
IT'S, IT'S IN THE WORK THAT WAS DONE IN 2019 WAS A SCHEMATIC.
THAT'S LIKE THE VERY BEGINNING, FIRST STAGE OF DESIGN.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY TO LAY OUT THE LINE AND TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE UP AGAINST IN TERMS OF PROPERTIES, DRAINAGE ISSUES AND, AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING.
SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS REEVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THE SCHEMATIC MAKES SENSE AT FOUR LANES, RIGHT? AND, AND PART OF THAT EVALUATION WILL LOOK AT HOW THE ROAD HAS TO FUNCTION.
DOES IT MAKE SENSE FROM A MOVING TRAFFIC SAFELY AND EFFICIENTLY POINT OF VIEW WEIGHED AGAINST IF IT WILL HAVE IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND YES, IN THIS AREA, RIGHT? THE, THE, IT IS A LITTLE MORE DENSE IN OTHER PROJECTS, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND SO THE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES USING FOUR LANES WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.
SO IN OUR COORDINATION WITH STAFF, WE THOUGHT IT, WE ALL AGREED THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO LOOK AT THE THREE LANES AND OUR GUT RIGHT, WILL LET YOU KNOW THE EVALUATION, MAKE THE DECISION.
BUT OUR GUT IS THAT IT WILL MOVE DOWN TO THREE LANES, A LOT OF TIMES THREE LANES.
IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE, BUT IF YOU HAVE A, A GOOD TURN LANE, THREE LANES WILL WORK AS EFFICIENTLY AND SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY THEN FOUR LANES.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE FOUR LANES, TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A TURN LANE IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO MAKE A LEFT, SURE, SURE.
THAT'S WHEN BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN.
SO I, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE, SO THIS A, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THERE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW ROAD.
IT, IT IT, RIGHT? OR IS THIS AN UPGRADE? IT'S AN UPGRADE OF THE ROAD.
SEE, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A WIDENING AND RECONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE'S ALREADY A THREE LANE THERE OR A TWO LANE, YOU CAN CALL IT A TWO-LANE, IT'S A THREE.
IT'S A LITTLE UNORGANIZED, A SMALL TWO LANE.
AND SO, AND, AND SO MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
SO I'M CONFUSED WHEN YOU'RE DOING A NEW VERSUS SOMETHING'S ALREADY THERE AND YOU'RE, AND NOW YOU'RE JUST GONNA GO TO THREE, SO THIS IS VERSUS FOUR.
THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS, RIGHT? WE'RE IMPROVING THE EXISTING ROAD.
AND, AND SO PART OF THE IMPROVEMENT WILL BE A WHOLESALE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD TO JUST BRING THE CONDITION OUT.
AS PART OF THAT RECONSTRUCTION, WHAT WE WANT, WANT TO DO, RIGHT, WITH THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION PLAN SAID WAS LET'S ADD CAPACITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE CITY'S GROWING, THIS PART OF THE CITY'S GROWING.
SO THE ENGINEERS THAT DID THIS IN 2019 SAID, WELL, THE BEST WAY TO ADD CAPACITY IS TO JUST MAKE A TWO LANES IN THESE DIRECTION.
THAT WAS THEIR PROPOSAL THAT SAT FOR A WHILE.
RIGHT? NOW WE PICK IT UP AND WE LOOK AT IT AND SAY, WELL, HOW VIABLE IS ACTUALLY PUTTING TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION? THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA, BUT NOW YOU'RE GETTING DOWN INTO THE DETAILS MM-HMM.
AND WHEN YOU GET INTO THE DETAILS AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ACTUALLY RECONSTRUCT IT ALL TO PUT FOUR LANES AND YOU REALIZE THAT THE TRADE OFF BETWEEN HAVING TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION AND THE EFFECT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, RIGHT.
THAT THAT TRADE OFF IS TOO GREAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LEANING TOWARD THE THREE LANES.
PROBABLY IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN DONE SOONER, MAYBE THE FOUR WOULD'VE BEEN THE PATH IF RIGHT, RIGHT.
IF PROPERTIES WERE CONFIGURED DIFFERENTLY AND IF, IF THERE WAS MORE AVAILABLE RIGHT AWAY.
BUT WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO, AND THIS IS SORT OF A GENERAL STATEMENT, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANT RIGHT.
TO WIPE OUT THE VERY THING YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP.
AND, AND, AND THAT WE BELIEVE THAT PUTTING TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION MIGHT VERY WELL CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, THE SURROUNDING MM-HMM.
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NO, NO, I GET IT.SO I THINK IF WE WOULD'VE STARTED WITH THIS IS AN EXISTING ROAD.
AND MAL LET, LET'S, LET'S GET IT, BECAUSE I WOULD'VE SAID ANYTHING'S BETTER THAN NOTHING THERE, BUT THERE WAS ALREADY SOMETHING THERE.
AND, AND IT, IT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KELL'S POINT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ROOM FOR, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE ARE SURE.
DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT ALL GETS FACTORED IN.
SO THIS IS THE ON SYSTEM PART OF, UH, CENTER STREET, AND IT'S, AGAIN, IT, IT IT'S AN EXISTING ROAD AND IT IS A FULL RECONSTRUCTION FROM VETERANS DRIVE DOWN TO MAIN STREET.
AND THE BUDGETED COST FOR THIS IS, UH, 10.1 MILLION.
IT HAS, UM, A CENTIMETER LANE.
IT HAS, UH, 11 FOOT LANES ON EITHER SIDE.
IT HAS PARKING ON ONE SIDE, AND THEN THERE'S, UH, THE VIBE TRAIL ON ONE SIDE AND A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER, YOU GUESS.
COUNCIL MEMBER BEFORE, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, UM, SURE.
GOING BACK TO S STAGE COACH, UM, I THINK WE ALL HAVE, UM, CONCERNS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WHETHER WE TAKE IT DOWN OR LEAVE IT UP OVER THE TREE.
UH, AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME KIND OF SOLID OUTREACH WHEN WE DECIDE WHAT THE CITY'S GONNA DO WITH THAT TREE.
UM, AND I, I WANT THAT TO BE ADDRESSED, UM, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
I MEAN, I, I GET IT'S A TOUCHY SUBJECT, BUT IF WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A SOLUTION.
UH, IT IT WILL BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
UM, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, UP UNTIL A WHILE AGO, I, I LIVED IN HAYES COUNTY AND UM, AND I ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF WORK, I SPENT A LOT OF AREA AROUND KYLA.
YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I'M AWARE OF THE TREE, BUT IT, IT IS GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY GETTING AROUND THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A A, A VERY OPEN AND HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TREE.
BUT AGAIN, NONE OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GONNA PROCEED THROUGH DESIGN AND GO TO CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT COORDINATION WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT RIGHT NOW, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT PLAN LAID OUT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE THINKING NOW FOR COORDINATION IS THAT WE WILL, FROM TIME TO TIME, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT COUNCIL'S BLESSING ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL TO JUST GIVE THEM UPDATES ABOUT HOW THE BOMB PROGRAM IS GOING AS A WHOLE MM-HMM.
BUT EVERY PROJECT WILL HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COORDINATION AND WE FULLY EXPECT THAT WHEN WE START WITH OLD STAGE COOK ROAD, WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL ABOUT THE TREE.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE IN THE CORNER? UM, WHICH ONE ARE WHICH ONE, WHAT SPECIFICALLY? ISN'T IT BEHIND LIKE SIX CREEKS OR IT IS, IT'S OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
IT'S, I I I ALWAYS THINK IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF OLD, NOT OH, RIGHT.
LITERALLY IN THE MIDDLE, BUT LENGTHWISE.
WELL, AND SO AS, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S ACTUALLY AN OLD COUNCIL MEETING YOU CAN WATCH WHERE WE HAD SOMEONE DO A TREE STUDY ON THE TREE.
IT'S AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN, ISN'T IT ALSO? OH YEAH.
IT'S THE TERRIBLE, SOMEONES GONNA BE LIABLE.
JUST, JUST GO WATCH THE, GO WATCH THE VIDEO TO GET US INCIDENT.
FROM A TRAFFIC POINT OF VIEW FOR WHAT THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, THE TRAVEL, SH THE, THE TREE SHOULD NOT PROBABLY NOT BE THERE.
AND I DON'T MEAN TO SOUND UNEMOTIONAL ABOUT IT, BUT THE OTHER FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE TREE IS, IN TERMS OF ITS HEALTH IS PROBABLY UN I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE REPORT SHOW WRITES A LITTLE BIT UN BORROWED TIME.
ACTUALLY, JERRY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT IT IN YOUR INBOX SOMEWHERE, THE ACTUAL REPORT, IF YOU CAN FIND THAT AND JUST EMAIL TO COUNSEL SO I CAN BE AWARE OF IT.
YEAH, BUT IT CAN BE TRANSPLANTED TOO.
I'VE SEEN HISTORICAL TREES REMOVED, PICKED UP AND MOVED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THE TREE WILL BE A TOPIC EVERY TIME STAGE COACH GETS BROUGHT UP.
THAT'S COURSE KALE'S GONNA BRING IT UP EVERY SINGLE TIME.
GONNA GET OUR, THAT I'M NOT CHOP IT DOWN.
THERE'S OPTION I'M HAVING, I'M HAVING A FLASHBACK BECAUSE IN A PREVIOUS LIFE I WORKED ON A PROJECT IN THE STATE OF DELAWARE WHEN I WORKED FOR THE D O T THAT INVOLVED A TREE JUST LIKE THIS.
AND, UM, IF, IF I COULD JUST POSTPONE THAT DREAM ONE MORE DAY, I'LL BE HAPPY.
SO, YOU KNOW, CENTER STREET, MOVING FORWARD, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE, I MEAN THEY'RE ALL GONNA REQUIRE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COORDINATION AND, AND THOUGHT, UM, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GOT THE VIBE ALIGNMENT STRAIGHT.
UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ITS FINAL CONFIGURATION IS, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTS WHAT THE CITY'S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH
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DOWNTOWN.THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK OUTSIDE AND YOU SEE SOME OF THE COOL STUFF YOU GUYS HAVE DONE WITH THE PARK AND EVERYTHING, I MEAN CENTER THIS PROJECT IS GONNA BE SORT OF A, A, A BIG POSITIVE CHANGE FOR THE CITY.
SORRY, I I EDITORIALIZED A LITTLE BIT.
BUNTON CREEK ROAD, JUST ONE QUESTION, SORRY, I I DON'T WANT TO JUST KEEP ASKING YOU, BUT, SO WHAT ABOUT THE UTILITY SIDE ON CENTER STREET? UM, IS THAT GOING TO BE, UM, WORKED OUT? ARE THERE WATER LINES THERE? WHAT, WHAT, BECAUSE THIS IS ALREADY DEVELOPED FROM, SO RIGHT.
THE, THE UTILITIES AND, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO IT RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL'S STATED PREFERENCE, RIGHT? A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS ABOUT UTILITIES WAS TO TRY AND BURY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PROJECTS WHERE THE UTILITIES WERE STILL ABOVE GROUND TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEM BURIED.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DESIGNERS AND OUR TEAM, OUR QUARTER MANAGERS ARE WORKING THROUGH THE ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECTS, UH, FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S EXISTING, RIGHT.
IF IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED OUT OF THE WAY, IT WILL BE MOVED OUT OF THE WAY.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING WITH LEON AND HIS STAFF, YOU KNOW, TO UPGRADE SOME OF THE LINES THAT NEED TO BE UPGRADED, WE'LL WE'LL INCLUDE THAT INTO THE SCOPE AND INTO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE DESIGN, INTO THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE, THE BIG ANSWER IS YES, UTILITIES, THERE ARE INTEGRAL PART OF EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS.
AND SOMETIMES, UM, IT'LL BE, WELL, NOT SIMPLY, IT'LL BE JUST MOVING THEM.
AND SOMETIMES IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, MOVING THEM, GETTING THEM UNDERGROUND, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF LIKE ELECTRIC AND, AND CABLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHAT ABOUT LIKE WASTEWATER? CUZ IF YOU PUT CEMENT OVER, ARE, ARE THEY NEARBY OR ARE THEY OFF A FEW FEET AWAY? I, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO EXACTLY HOW THAT GETS DONE, BUT THAT'S ALL CONSIDERED PART LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF THE SPACE POSSIBLE MM-HMM.
SO YOU, YOU'LL, YOU'LL TRY AND PUT THE UTILITIES IN PLACES WHERE IF YOU NEED TO GET AT THEM, THEY'RE GONNA COST THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DISRUPTION.
AND THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE THE GOAL WITH NOT ONLY THIS PROJECT WITH ANY OF THE PROJECTS, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT 10, 15, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, IF THE LINE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO CUT A HOLE INTO THE GROUND, INTO THE PAVEMENT.
BUT I JUST, JUST CAN'T TELL YOU THE SPECIFICS OF THIS ONE CUZ I'M NOT, I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH IT AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
UM, SO THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO STRAIGHTEN OUT THE CURVES ALONG BUNTON CREEK ROAD BETWEEN LANE AND GO FORTH.
THE COST FOR THIS IS JUST OVER 28 MILLION.
THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AN EXISTING ROAD THAT WILL HAVE SOME MODIFICATION TO IT.
UM, IT'LL HAVE, UH, TWO 12 FOOT LANES, UH, IN EACH DIRECTION.
UH, THERE'S A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE AND A SUPPLEMENTAL, I'M SORRY, UM, A SHARED USE PATH, WHICH IS THE VIBE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THIS, THIS PROJECT, SO IF WE GO BACK TO THE KYLE PARKER EXTENSION, LEHMAN ROAD EXTENSION PROJECT WHERE THE LEHMAN ROAD EXTENSION HIT BUNTON CREEK ROAD, UM, THE FIGURING OUT OF WHETHER OR NOT A SIGNAL OR A ROUNDABOUT IS INSTALLED THERE MIGHT AFFECT THIS PROJECT A LITTLE BIT.
NOW WE JUST MENTIONED THAT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL JUST TAKE CARE OF THROUGH THE NATURAL COURSE OF DESIGN IS, IS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE DECISION THAT GETS MADE ON THE CARL PARKWAY EXTENSION, LEHMAN ROAD EXTENSION PROJECT WITH REGARD TO THAT INTERSECTION, UM, WE MAY HAVE TO MODIFY A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THAT END OF BUNTON CREEK ROAD, THAT ONE, UM, SINCE IT DOESN'T HAVE A DIVIDING MEDIUM, IS THERE MORE OF A PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE NOW YOU GOT CARS, RIGHT? THE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS AT 66.
OH, THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CONTEXT AND THE CIRCUMSTANCE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
NOW THE THE TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY MASTER PLAN RIGHT.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO HONOR THAT MM-HMM.
BUT IF WE DIG INTO IT A LITTLE BIT AND WE THINK THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE SHOULD BE DIFFERENT WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK.
I'VE SEEN THE CARS SWERVE OVER TO THE OTHER OH, ABSOLUTELY.
CAUSE THEN THEY'RE INCOMING AND THAT'LL, THAT CAN EVEN HAPPEN WITH A MEDIAN.
IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES IT COULD INCREASE THE CHANCES.
SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU GOTTA LOOK AT EACH ROAD AS TO WHERE IT EXISTS.
UM, I I I JUST NEED TO POINT OUT TO LET YOU KNOW, I'M AWARE OF IT.
SO IF WE DO THIS AND DOWN THE ROAD, DOWN THE LINE, THERE ARE THESE ACCIDENTS.
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ONCOMING TRAFFIC COULD COME AT A FAST, FAST SPEED.YOU KNOW, THE THE OTHER THING THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH THIS PROJECT, AND WE'RE GONNA GET TO ANOTHER ONE LATER, IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF SAFETY, IT'S AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT OF WAY ISSUES COULD COME UP MM-HMM.
SO THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT CAN, CAN AFFECT IT, BUT AS OF TODAY, THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL WORK AND THIS IS WHAT MM-HMM.
NOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A DIFFERENT PART OF THE CITY.
THE DEMANDS FOR TRAVEL ARE DIFFERENT.
YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK DIFFERENT, THEY FEEL DIFFERENT.
YOU KNOW, THIS, THE NATURE OF GROWTH OUT HERE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO THAT ALL GOES INTO THE HOPPER AND PART OF THE DECISION.
MY CONCERN FOR BUTTON CREEK IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING OUT THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE HOMES.
AND SO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA IS SAYING IS EXACTLY SPOT ON.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS WOULD BE LOWERED DOWN THE LIST BECAUSE IT IS LITERALLY A ONE-LANE ROAD AND PUTTING A CENTER LANE STRIPE IN IT WOULD BE MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT.
SO MY CONCERN IS THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COMING AND I BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE A BREWERY AND A BU A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOMES, AND WE REALLY WANNA SEE THAT PLACE DEVELOP.
AND SO IF IT'S JUST THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS THAT'S HOLDING THIS UP, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PARTICULAR ROAD DONE A LITTLE BIT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
SO, UH, I, I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T, WHEN I SAID WE ORDERED THEM, IT WASN'T IN ORDER THAT WE'RE GONNA APPROACH THEM BECAUSE THAT PART'S COMING.
IT, IT'S IN THE ORDER OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT, WHAT IS COMPLEXITY? WHAT THIS COMPLEX, JUST THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS? WELL, AS WE, WE GET DOWN THE LIST OF COMPLEXITY, NOT NECESSARILY ORDER, IT'S UM, IT'S THE, THE ENVIRONMENT YOU'RE WORKING IN, IT'S RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS.
IT'S, IT'S ALL, IT'S THE UTILITIES.
IT'S JUST THE COMBINATION OF THINGS.
IT, IT, IT IS, UM, COMPLEX MOSTLY WITH REGARD TO RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION.
AND THEN THERE ARE PARTS OF BUNTON CREEK WHERE THERE'S UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF UTILITY CONCERNS.
THERE'S A, A, A SUBSTATION THAT IS IMMOVABLE.
THERE IS A, UH, WHO OWNS THE WATER VALVE? A GBR, A GBR MM-HMM.
AND, AND SO THERE'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS THAT MAKES THIS PROJECT COMPLEX.
AND WE THOUGHT AS WE GOT INTO IT, WE'D GET QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TACKLING IT, UH, YOU KNOW, LATER ON IN THE LISTS.
SO YOU, YOU'LL SEE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE END, THAT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS START ALL THE PROJECTS AT ONCE AND THERE ARE REASONS FOR THAT.
BUT IF I CAN GET THROUGH THE DISCUSSION OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS, UM, WE CAN EXPLAIN THAT MORE WHAT THE LOGIC IS AND WHAT THE BENEFIT IS TO THE CITY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TO THE COMMUNITY.
THIS ALSO, THIS IS ANOTHER PLACE, RIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S GOT THE ROUNDABOUTS FIRST POLICY, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE ROUNDABOUT IT GO FORTH, WHICH IS RECOMMENDED IN THE PRELIMINARY IMAGING REPORT STILL MAKES SENSE.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T MEAN TO CALL IT OUT, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL ANALYSIS OR A STUDY WE'RE GONNA DO FOR EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS, WE SHOULD.
BUT THIS IS ONE, UH, ANOTHER CASE WHERE WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE ROUNDABOUT MAKES SENSE SO WE COULD KEEP WITH THE CITY'S ROUNDABOUTS FIRST POLICY.
NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE, UH, ONTO KOHLER'S, UH, TO SETON.
SO THIS PROJECT INVOLVES IF FEW WERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF I 35.
THIS INVOLVES A CROSSING OF I 35.
AND, AND I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE CITY WOULD PREFER, I THINK MOST FOLKS WOULD PREFER THAT KOHLERS STAY MORE OR LESS AT GRADE AND THAT I 35 GO OVER KOHLERS.
BUT TO GET THERE, THEY NEED AN ANALYSIS DONE THAT WILL GET DONE THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN.
SO THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT, ALTHOUGH IT'S PRESENTED AS ONE, IS DEALING WITH HOW KOHLERS EITHER GETS OVER OR UNDER I 35.
THE SECOND PART OF THE PROJECT IS WHEN YOU GET TO THE EAST SIDE OF 35 AND YOU COME DOWN, WHAT WE ALL KNOW AS THE CARAWAY TRACT, RIGHT? YOU CROSS BB AND YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN, UH, TO SETON
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PARKWAY.SO THIS IS, AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE SAVING IT FOR LOWER DOWN THE LIST.
THIS IS A PRETTY COMPLEX PROJECT AND IT'S COMPLEX BECAUSE I 35 IS AN INTERSTATE AND WHENEVER YOU START TO WORK IN OR AROUND AN INTERSTATE TECH DOT AND THE FEDS GET A LITTLE ANXIOUS BECAUSE RIGHTLY SO, THEY'RE VERY PROTECTIVE OF THAT ROAD CUZ THAT ROAD HAS IMPLICATIONS WAY BEYOND HERE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY COMPLEX AND I'M GOING TO GET TO SOME OF THAT IN IN A SECOND.
THE BUDGETED COST FOR THIS IS JUST OVER $66 MILLION.
SO AS PART OF THE CITY'S ONGOING COORDINATION WITH TECHO, UM, BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS, UH, WE WERE PART OF A MEETING RIGHT, WITH TECHO TO TALK ABOUT THE BOND PROJECTS.
AND PART OF THAT MEETING WAS TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT WERE ON SYSTEM AND THE PROJECTS THAT CONNECTED AND TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THEM.
RIGHT? SO WHEN WE WERE DOING THOSE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS, WOULD WE DO ONE AGREEMENT TO COVER EVERYTHING? WOULD WE SEPARATE THEM? AND WHAT TECH DOT SUGGESTED IS THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT FOR ALL THE PROJECTS THAT SIMPLY CONNECT TO THEIR SYSTEM AND THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT, A SECOND AGREEMENT FOR KOHLS TO SETON AND THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT FOR THE CENTER STREET FOR THE ON PORTION PART OF CENTER STREET.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW ARE AGREEMENTS WITH TEXT DOT ON KOHLS TO SETON CENTER, STREET STREET AND ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM.
SO WHEN WE DRILLED INTO THE DETAILS WITH THIS ON TEXTILE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY VERIFIED FOR US THAT WE KNEW WERE OUT THERE TO TOUCH I 35 EITHER TO BRING I 35 OVER OR TO BRING, UM, KOHLERS KOHL'S OVER HIM BECAUSE YOU'RE TOUCHING THE FRONTAGE ROADS AND BECAUSE YOU'RE CROSSING I 35, THERE IS AN APPROVAL PROCESS THAT CAN TAKE ANYWHERE BETWEEN A YEAR AND TWO YEARS.
AND SO TO KEEP THIS PROJECT TOGETHER, YOU WOULD BE DELAYING EVERYTHING ELSE, INCLUDING THE PIECE THAT GOES AGAIN, WHAT WE CALL THE CARAWAY TRACK.
YOU'D, YOU'D BE GROUPING THAT ALL TOGETHER AND YOU'D BE LOOKING AT A TWO OR MORE YEAR DESIGN PROCESS TO GET THROUGH WHAT YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH A TECH STOP.
SO AT TECH DOT RECOMMENDED, AND WE AGREE AS A TECHNICAL TEAM IS TO SEPARATE THE TWO PROJECTS IS TO TREAT THE CROSSING OF I 35, AGAIN, NOT YET DETERMINING WHETHER 35 GOES OVER KOHLERS OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND, SEPARATING THAT FROM THE PIECE THAT WILL CONNECT FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD THROUGH THE CARAWAY TRACT ALL THE WAY DOWN.
AND SO THAT IS THE WAY WE'D LIKE TO PROCEED, WHICH IS TO SEPARATE THE TWO PROJECTS.
AGAIN, LAUNCH I 35, LAUNCH THE CARAWAY TRACT.
SO RIGHT, THE PATH FORWARD AND, AND I, I THINK IT BEARS WORTH REPEATING, DIVIDE THE PROJECT INTO TWO, THE I 35 CROSSING, AND THEN FROM THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SEATON PARKWAY.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH DOING IS ELIMINATING THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE INCLUDED IN THE, THE P EER IS TO CROSS I 35 AT BB INSTEAD OF KOHLERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THINKING THROUGH WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE AND LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, DESIRED DEVELOPMENT PLANS, IT JUST MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO CROSS AT KOHLER'S AND BRING THE ROAD DOWN.
SO THAT IS THE, THE, THE, THE PROJECT.
AND I'LL TAKE A BREATH THERE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD, ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT.
IF NOT, I'LL MOVE ON TO BB UH, QUESTIONS STILL IN MY HEAD, BUT IT, I'LL ASK IT LATER.
JUST, WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO THIS.
IT'S KIND OF, IT'S REALLY A BIG A LOT OF INFORMATION RIGHT THERE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I I UNDERSTOOD IT ALL.
IT, IT IS, UM, A COMPLEX PROJECT.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND, BUT WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A GOOD PATH FORWARD.
SO BB ROAD, IT, IT, IT'S REALLY, UM, IT'S A REALIGNMENT OF A LOT OF THE SHARP CURVES OF BB BETWEEN I 35 AND THEN UPGRADING, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A, A, A, A, A GREENFIELD PIECE THAT COORDINATES WITH THE KYLE PARKWAY EXTENSION, I'M SORRY, THE KOHLER'S, UM, THE, THE KOHLER'S PROJECT.
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PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT INVOLVES THE EXISTING PORTION OF BEBE ROAD.AND THIS PROJECT IS ALSO VERY EXPENSIVE.
IT'S, IT'S UPWARDS OF, IT'S ALMOST 67 MILLION, AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH ITS SHEER LENGTH.
AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE, UH, INTERRUPTED, RIGHT.
THAT YOU'D HAVE TO GET RIGHT AWAY FROM.
AND SO A LOT OF THE COST IS NOT JUST THE CONSTRUCTION IT'S INVOLVED IN RIGHT OF WAY.
NOW, WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND, AND HOW IT MIGHT GET DONE, UM, WHEN WE DID THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEER AND START TO THINK ABOUT HOW WOULD YOU TACKLE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT CAME CLEAR TO US THAT IT WOULD BE DIVIDED SORT OF INTO THREE PIECES.
THE, THE PIECE THAT GOES FROM THE I 35 FRONT ROAD TO WHERE YOU GET BACK ONTO BB, SORT OF MORE OR LESS THAT GREENFIELD, THAT NEW ROAD PIECE.
AND THEN THERE'S THIS BIG PIECE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN WHEN YOU GO EAST, THERE'S AN AREA WHERE THE ROAD BECOMES, UH, IT'S OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES LIKE A COUNTY ROAD.
AND, AND SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD SEPARATE THAT OUT BECAUSE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR COORDINATION PARTICIPATION BY THE COUNTY, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO DRILL INTO ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
AND THAT LESSENS THE IMPACT ON, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT JUST PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE MOST OUT OF EVERY SECTION AS AS POSSIBLE.
THERE WAS, UM, THE ROUNDABOUT, THERE WAS, THERE IS A ROUNDABOUT PLAN FOR WHERE KOHLER'S INTERSECTS BB ON THE CARAWAY TRACT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE PART OF THE KOHLER'S PROJECT.
AND WE THOUGHT IT BEST TO MOVE TO BB, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
ONE IS THAT THE KOHLER'S PROJECT IS, IS, UH, COMPLICATED ENOUGH.
TWO, THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON THE BB ROAD PROJECT HAVE A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH ROUNDABOUTS, WHICH IN THIS CASE MIGHT BE OF, OF BENEFIT.
UM, AND THEN I SAID, WE'RE GONNA DIVIDE THE PROJECT INTO THREE PIECES TO ALLOW FOR GREATER CONSTRUCTION FLEXIBILITY.
DIVIDING INTO THREE PIECES IS ALSO IMPORTANT, AT LEAST ON THE WESTERN END, FOR BEING ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH LALL CROSSING.
AND THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE IT TOUCHES THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD, IS A PROJECT THAT IS PART OF THE, THE COORDINATION OF TECH DOT.
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ITS OWN FUNDING AGREEMENT.
SO IT'LL BE GROUPED IN AGAIN, WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT SIMPLY CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM.
NOW, THERE WERE TWO OPTIONS FOR THIS ALTERNATIVE.
ONE, THE BASIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO OPTIONS IS ALTERNATIVE ONE WOULD TAKE BB AND, AND, AND, AND HAVE IT CONNECT RIGHT NORTH OF WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT MOVES THE ROUNDABOUT FURTHER INTO THE CARAWAY TRACT.
AND, AND OUR VIEW WAS THAT THAT JUST COMPLICATES MATTERS A LITTLE BIT WITH TECH STOP BECAUSE YOU'RE MOVING WHERE IT CONNECTS TO THE F ROAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE AS MUCH OF THAT TRACT AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR DESIRED GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, LET'S SEE IF WE COULD DO ANYTHING TO MOVE THE ROUNDABOUT FURTHER, FURTHER OUT OF THE WAY.
SO ALTERNATIVE TWO MAKES THE MOST USE OF EXISTING BB ROAD, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S, IT WOULD BE LIKE A RECONSTRUCTION AND UPGRADE, BUT YOU'RE ON TOP OF THE EXISTING ROAD AND IT GETS THE ROUNDABOUT NOT TOTALLY OUT OF THE WAY, BUT IT GETS IT TO THE LOWER, YOU KNOW, RIGHT CORNER OF THE CARAWAY TRACT.
AND IT, IT JUST MAKES, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, EFFICIENCIES FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF DEVELOPMENT, FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE ROAD SYSTEM AND FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF HAVING TO COORDINATE WITH TEXT DOT, UH, BOTH OPTIONS DO GET RID OF THAT SHARP CURVE AS YOU'RE COMING OFF BB AND HEADED OUT TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
AND BOTH OPTIONS STILL REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, A CROSSING OF, OF, OF THE WATERWAY THERE.
SO IN NUMBER TWO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ROAD THAT'S ALREADY THROUGH, THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING, RIGHT? YES.
WELL, JUST FROM A LOOKING AT IT, I MEAN, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD APPEAR, I GUESS, SMARTER THAN THE FIRST ONE BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TWO ROADS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT? AND THAT, AND THAT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUTTING MORE, MORE, MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ALL OVER THERE.
AND, AND, AND IT GETS THE ROUND, THE ABOUT OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT OUR ASSUMPTION IS THE SEA WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPED, RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL, I THINK THERE'S ALSO COST SAVINGS RIGHT THERE, ISN'T THERE? SINCE YOU ALREADY HAVE SOME ROAD JUST TO IMPROVE THERE.
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BUT AGAIN, TAXPAYERS LOVE THAT.UM, BUT ALSO I WANTED TO ASK YOU, IS THIS A 64 FOOT SLAB OF ROAD? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A VERY WIDE, DO YOU HAVE 12? 12, 16.
SO IS THIS GONNA BE A 64? OH GEEZ, FEET WIDE ROAD? BEBE? THE, THE, THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY? SO THERE'S THREE PIECES, RIGHT? UM, THERE'S A PIECE OF BEBE THAT'S WEST OF KOHLERS TO SETON.
SO THAT, WHERE THAT ROUNDABOUT IS GOING OUT TO THE FRONTAGE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A THREE-LANE SECTION.
THE PIECE THAT GOES FROM THERE, EAST IS DOWN AS A FOUR-LANE SECTION.
SO THE RIGHT OF WAY VARIES FROM ALMOST 70 FEET TO LIKE A HUNDRED FEET.
BUT, BUT THIS, THE COMPLICATION OF THIS PROJECT, RIGHT? IS THAT WHEN YOU TAKE IT EAST RIGHT, ONTO MORE OR LESS EXISTING BB ROAD, AND YOU TRY AND GET THOSE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION WITH THE TURN LANE IN, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT WILL BE AFFECTED.
SO ARE WE LOOKING AT THE LENGTH 60 FEET? I'M SORRY, SIR.
60 FEET ON THE, ON THE FOUR-LANE MINER? I'M JUST TRYING TO ENVISION NO, HOW MUCH OF THE, SO THE RIGHT OF WAY IS A HUNDRED FEET.
THE, THE, THE PORTION OF THAT A HUNDRED FEET THAT WOULD BE TAKEN UP BY THE ROAD YEAH.
WOULD BE ABOUT 68 FEET, RIGHT? THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.
THAT'S WHAT, YES, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO.
SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE A HUNDRED AND THE 68 ARE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALKS AND FOR DRAINAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW THIS PROJECT, AGAIN, TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION BECAUSE THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN ANTICIPATED A LOT OF DEMAND ON THIS IN THE TURN LANE.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A, A, A LOT OF, UM, TO BE DONE WITH REGARD TO RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION AND WITH REGARD TO UTILITY COORDINATION.
SO THIS IS WHY, YOU KNOW, I EXPLAINED THE COMPLEXITIES OF KOHLERS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES OF BB AND, YOU KNOW, KOHLERS, THE COMPLEXITIES MOSTLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH I 35 BB.
THE COMPLEXITIES HAVE TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL LENGTH AND UTILITY COORDINATION AND RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
SO I'M GONNA TAKE ANOTHER BREATH.
COULD NO, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? THE ONE REAL QUICK, JUST TELL ME THAT ONE.
THE ONE THAT HAD THE PROPOSED THAT ONE? NO, AFTER THAT ONE LOOKS KINDA GOOFY.
AND IF THERE A WAY THAT YOU CAN SEND THAT TO US, UM, AS LIKE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
YOU, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO MATCH WHAT I HAVE IN THE REAL MAP TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TRUTH, WHAT THE PLAN IS GONNA BE.
AND I GUESS
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M DONE.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE, UM, UM, WHAT THAT GREEN, WHAT IS THAT GREEN SECTION THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE IN THE ROAD? THE ONE THAT IS CONNECTING TO, OH MY GOD, I HATE THAT.
WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT JUST LIKE A CONNECTION TO THE OLD BB ROAD? IF E EXACTLY.
WE WERE GONNA LEAVE IT IN THERE, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE GONE.
WOULD THAT BE GONE? RIGHT? IF WE WERE TO GO WITH ALTERNATIVE TO, WOULD THAT BE GONE? INTEREST PARK? OH, IT, IT, IT'S TO PROVIDE CONNECTION TO THAT DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IF YOU MOVE BB ROAD OUT, YOU STILL NEED TO WAIT FROM THIS FOLKS.
I GUESS MY QUESTION WILL BE, UH, GOING WITH ALTERNATIVE TO USING PART OF BB ROAD, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PREEXISTING ROAD, UM, MAYBE ADDING THAT ROUNDABOUT IN THERE.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE REST OF THAT CURB? SO WHERE BB CURRENTLY IS THE, THE GREEN PART RIGHT, IS WHAT'S NEEDED TO PROVIDE LOCAL ACCESS, RIGHT? THE PART BETWEEN THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE GREEN PART COULD, COULD BE TAKEN OUT, COULD BE ABANDONED.
NOW WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT WE HAVEN'T DUG INTO, BUT IT'S, IT WOULDN'T BE NEEDED.
IF, IF YOU PROVIDE THAT CONNECTION
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FROM RELOCATED, WE BE BACK INTO THE SUBDIVISION.ALL RIGHT? UM, I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE THE ENGINEERS.
I KNOW YOU WILL FIGURE IT OUT.
I'M JUST, I WAS JUST WONDERING, BUT THANK YOU.
ON THE, ON THE MAP, I GUESS THE BLUE, IS THAT A FLOODPLAIN, THIS ROAD'S GOING OVER? DID, UH, DID ANY OF THE OTHERS, UH, MERGE OR GO THROUGH FLOODPLAINS AS WELL? OR IS THIS THE ONLY ONE POINTED OUT? AND SO I GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, THAT'S GONNA BE ELEVATED DEFINITELY FOR, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'LL BE, UM, EITHER, UM, I THINK WE'RE THINKING A BRIDGE, A, A, A BRIDGE OR IT'LL BE SOME SORT OF BRIDGE, WHETHER IT'S A BRIDGE OR JUST CULVERTS THAT MM-HMM.
OTHER MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS A SMALL SECTION PIECE.
ARE WE ALSO BRI PUTTING A BRIDGE THERE, UH, ANTICIPATING BRIDGE OR THERE WILL BE SOME SORT OF ELEVATED STRUCTURE, PROBABLY CULVERTS AS OPPOSED TO A BRIDGE.
BUT, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME WAY THE WATER WILL PASS UNDER BRIDGE.
BRIDGE AND, AND SAME THING WITH MARKETPLACE, BUT AGAIN, AND DO WE HAVE, I GUESS, PERMITS FINED BY NO, NOT YET.
UM, THAT'S PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT THAT, THAT'S, UM, DRAINAGE, UM, AND TRANSPORTATION GO HAND IN HAND.
AND AGAIN, UH, WHAT WE CANNOT DO, THE DESIGN ENGINEERS CANNOT DO, IS THEY CAN'T DESIGN A PROJECT THAT MAKES DRAINAGE WORSE.
AND SO WHEN YOU BUILD THE ROAD LIKE THIS, RIGHT? YOU RELOCATE THE ROAD, IS JENNIFER START TO SAY, RIGHT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY FOR THE WATER TO PASS UNDERNEATH AND IT MAY LOOK AND FEEL LIKE A BRIDGE.
UM, OR IT MAY BE A, A BUNCH OF CULVERTS, RIGHT? THAT LOOK AND FEEL LIKE A BRIDGE.
BUT THE, THAT ALL GETS CALCULATED AND IT WHOLE HAS TO GET PERMITTED.
AND DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF THE FLOODWAY AND WITH THE ROAD'S GONNA DO, UH, DETERMINES HOW COMPLICATED OR NOT IT IS TO GET THOSE PERMITS.
BUT, BUT NONE OF THESE PROJECTS THAT INVOLVE FLOODWAYS OR THE MOVEMENT OF WATER UNDERNEATH THEM, YOU KNOW, OR OTHERWISE THROUGH THEM, ARE GONNA BE DONE WITHOUT PERMITTING.
BUT, BUT THAT PERMITTING CAN'T BE DONE UNTIL THE DESIGN GETS FURTHER ADVANCED, RIGHT? AT THIS STAGE, WE'RE JUST LAYING OUT ISSUES AND WE KNOW WHAT IT'S UP AGAINST US THAT HELPS US DEFINE THE SCOPE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED TIME AND EXPENSE TO THE PERMITTING AND, AND THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS IN A SECOND, IF I MAY.
I'M GONNA SKIP THIS UPDATES TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'RE ON A, UM, I THINK IT MIGHT BE BEST TO FLOW INTO THE NEXT STEPS.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, RIGHT? I GUESS, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RESULTS OF TODAY IS THAT WE'D LIKE TO FINALIZE THE DESIGN SCOPES AND FEES, YOU KNOW, AND BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY.
THIS WAY YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS IN THE SCOPE FOR THE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO GET THE DESIGN DONE.
UM, AND WE THINK, UH, BECAUSE WE GOT A HEADSTART WITH THEM, WE DIDN'T FINISH EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD COME BACK IN FEBRUARY TO DO THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT WE WANT TO BEGIN THE DESIGN FOR ALL THE PROJECTS AS SOON AS AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT? UM, NOW THE IDEA OVER STARTING THEM ALL AT ONCE IS THAT THEY'LL ALL PROCEED AT DIFFERENT RATES, RIGHT? SOME COMPLEX, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL INTERESTING.
THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN INS AND OUTS AND COMPLEXITIES, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IF WE START THEM ALL AT ONCE, THEY WILL NATURALLY SORT OF START TO ORDER THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF WHEN THEY'LL BE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT WE CAN DO THOUGH IS WE COULD ALSO SEE IF THERE'S A REASON TO SPEED SOMETHING UP OR SLOW SOMETHING DOWN, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST ENGAGED IN GETTING THE PROJECTS DONE.
COUNCIL MAY HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES OF DIFFERENT CONCERNS, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE START EVERYTHING AT ONCE.
IF WE'RE LEFT ALONE, WE WILL JUST GET THEM DONE AS QUICKLY, AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT AS THEY GET THROUGH A DESIGN TO EITHER SLOW SOMETHING DOWN OR SPEED SOMETHING UP.
AND IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO IT.
IF TWO THINGS ARE AHEAD FOR CONSTRUCTION, THAT WILL CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER, WILL COME BACK AND SAY, LISTEN, YOU KNOW, PROJECT A AND PROJECT B CAN'T BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THEY'D CAUGHT TOO MUCH OF AN INTER INTERRUPTION.
UM, WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO? WE'D HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
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THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.THAT MAXIMIZES THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE HAVE AND BEING ABLE TO PROCESS THE PROJECTS AND DEVELOP THEM THROUGH DESIGN AND INTO CONSTRUCTION.
UM, IT ALSO, UM, ALLOWS US TO GET THROUGH THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, AS QUICKLY AND AS EFFICIENTLY AS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WE ALSO, AFTER TODAY, AGAIN, ASSUMING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RESULTS OF TODAY, WE WANT TO, UH, REFINE, FINALIZE, AND THEN COME BACK AT A COUNCIL MEETING AND SHARE OUR PRELIMINARY MASTER SCHEDULE.
WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE, ACTUALLY, CONTINUE IS THE WRONG WORD.
WE'RE GONNA STEP UP THE COORDINATION WITH, WITH TECH OT.
WE'RE GONNA START TO DRAFT, UH, YOU KNOW, DEFINE THOSE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE PROGRAM IS IN SYNC WITH, WITH, WITH TECH DOTS, WITH WITH TECH DOTS, IDEAS.
UM, THOSE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS CAN TAKE SOME TIME.
AND SO WE WANT TO GET A JUMP ON THOSE.
WE WANNA CONTINUE TO, AS WE REFINE THE DESIGN SCOPES AND ACTUALLY ENTER THE DESIGN PHASES, WHETHER WE'RE FINALIZING THE SCHEMATIC OR WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO PS AND E, WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S WAYS TO GET AHEAD ON RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND UTILITY COORDINATION.
THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT YOUR GE C OUR TEAM, YOU KNOW, CAN CONTROL AND, AND EXERT INFLUENCE OVER, RIGHT? IN RESPONSE TO YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION AND YOUR PREFERENCES.
UH, THERE ARE TWO AREAS THOUGH, WHERE IF WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROLLER INFLUENCE, IT'S RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION AND ITS UTILITY COORDINATION.
UTILITY COORDINATION CAN TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
UTILITIES ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY BUSY.
THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THEIR TIME AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS, OR THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO ADHERE TO THE SCHEDULES THAT WE ALL LAY OUT.
AND SO THE SOONER YOU START WITH THEM, THE BETTER.
AND, AND THAT THAT IS AN AREA WHERE WE WILL CONSTANTLY BE WORKING TO MAINTAIN CONTROL AND INFLUENCE OVER THE OTHER WAY.
THE OTHER AREA IS RIGHT, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
THESE PROJECTS, RIGHT? THEY ALL HAVE THEIR COMPLEXITIES.
SOME OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
AND, AND WE WILL, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY THIS.
WE, WE WILL PROBABLY ENCOUNTER A FEW CASES WHERE THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR RIGHT OF WAY WILL NOT GO AS SMOOTHLY OR AS FRIENDLY AS WE HOPE THEM TO BE.
AND IF WE HAVE TO MOVE INTO LIKE AN ADVERSE POSSESSION, WHICH IS CODE FOR LIKE AN EMINENT DOMAIN OR CONDEMNATION, THAT THAT CAN TAKE TIME.
UM, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY AND GET AHEAD ON ALL OF THAT.
UM, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT IF, IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT WE ALL HAVE TO MASTER SCHEDULE, AND WHEREAS CONSERVATIVES AS WE THINK WE SHOULD BE AT THE TIME WITH REGARD TO RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION AND UTILITY COORDINATION, THAT THERE ARE THINGS ABOUT BOTH THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF OUR CONTROL THAT CAN ULTIMATELY CAUSE A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY.
BUT WE'RE GONNA DO THE BEST WE CAN TO CONTROL IT.
WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, LANDOWNER AND DEVELOPER COORDINATION.
AND AS WE PROCEED THROUGH THE DESIGN, ALL OF THAT GETS FORMALIZED.
I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AN OUTREACH PLAN THAT WILL INVOLVE SORT OF, UH, PROGRAM-WIDE UPDATES, RIGHT? UM, THAT MAY INVOLVE SOME IN-PERSON STUFF, BUT CERTAINLY INFORMATION, EVERYTHING WE PRODUCE, UH, CAN BE POSTED TO A WEBPAGE ON THE COUNTY'S, UH, TO A PAGE ON THE COUNTY, UH, ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
UM, BUT ALSO WE WILL HAVE OUTREACH FOR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO BEGIN IN SOME CASES RAMP UP, YOU KNOW, PARTNER AGENCY COORDINATION.
UM, WE NEED TO COORDINATE WITH HAYES COUNTY AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH THEM.
AND THERE ARE AGENCIES LIKE ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER, WHERE COORDINATION, LIKE IS, IS, IS, UM, UM, VERY IMPORTANT AND NEEDS TO START IN EARNEST, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY.
UM, AND HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PLAN.
SO I'M GONNA TAKE A BREATH THERE, AND THEN IF WE HAVE A MINUTE AFTER WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, WE'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GETTING SOME FEEDBACK AND WHAT THE RIGHT WAY TO INTERACT WITH YOU, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE MIGHT BE.
UM, ONE OF THE, WELL, I'M, I ACTUALLY AFRAID I'M GONNA TAKE YOUR, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SAY.
SO I'M GONNA LET YOU GO FIRST.
I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE WEBSITE.
OH, I WAS ABOUT, THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, SO SINCE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE TIME THAT I FEEL LIKE KYLE HAS SPENT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON A BOND, I DO WANT EVERYBODY TO
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BE AS INFORMED AS I CAN.UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE HAVING THE, THE DOMAIN THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SINCE IT'S ALREADY OUT THERE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY WELL KNOWN.
UM, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE REDESIGNED COMPLETELY.
UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE CLEAR INFORMATION.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T DO THAT.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE THERE, BUT IF, IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR US TO MAYBE ACQUIRE THAT MAIN AND KEEP IT FOR THE COW BONDS, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
UM, I WOULD LIKE FOR EACH PROJECT TO HAVE THEIR INDIVIDUAL, UM, LIKE SUBPAGE INSIDE THAT DOMAIN WHERE WE CAN SEE HOPEFULLY A WEEKLY CONSTRUCTION OR TASK SCHEDULE.
UM, AND I, IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON EACH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME, AT LEAST LIKE THE DESIGN PART AND ALL OF THAT, UM, TO HAVE SOME, SOME SORT OF, UM, SO, SO THE RESIDENTS KNOW, OKAY, THIS IS WHERE THIS PROJECT IS GOING.
AND ONCE CONSTRUCTION START, CUZ I'M ASSUMING KNOW ALL CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA BE OBVIOUSLY AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THAT PEOPLE CAN GO IN THERE AND SEE WHERE ARE WE IN EACH OF THE STEPS AS WE CONTINUE, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT PROBABLY FOR THE NEXT FIVE, 10 YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA LAST, BUT I DO WANT FOR, FOR EACH PAGE TO HAVE THAT, UM, ABILITY TO BE INDIVIDUALLY, UH, FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AT, UM, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE, UM, MANAGER OF THAT, UM, THAT ROAD, THAT CONSTRUCTION, UH, SO THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH YOU GUYS.
UM, SO EACH, EACH ROAD IS GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN MANAGER.
NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE WORKING ON THE SAME, NOT THE SAME COMPANIES ARE GONNA BE WORKING IN EACH ROAD.
COUNCIL MEMBER THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, SO IF THE CONTACT INFORMATION OF EACH PROJECT CAN BE DISPLAYED IN THERE, THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR AT IN FOR US TOO.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WE, WHICH ONE OF YOU IS GONNA BE THE MANAGER FOR EACH ROAD? THAT ALL MAKES PERFECT SENSE AND ACTUALLY WE'RE IN THE SAME PLACE, RIGHT? UM, AS THE FOLKS THAT ARE MANAGING THIS FOR YOU, RIGHT? WE TRY AND MINIMIZE INTERRUPTIONS AND A LOT OF TIMES INTERRUPTIONS COME FROM NOT KEEPING PEOPLE INFORMED MM-HMM.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY TO OUR BENEFIT AS WELL AS YOUR BENEFIT.
IF WE POST INFORMATION, SOMEONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO THAT PART, TO THAT WEBPAGE ON THE CITY'S SITE AND BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT EACH PROJECT IS AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROJECT.
NOW, DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
BUT WHEN WE GET TO CONSTRUCTION, THE, THE ONE THING I WILL SAY THOUGH IS WE, PART OF OUR JOB IS TO KEEP A RECORD AND, AND, AND TO CONTROL, NOT NOT CONTROL WHAT PEOPLE SAY OR OR WHAT THEY DO, BUT IS TO JUST, I GUESS THE BEST WAY IS TO TRACK COMMUNICATIONS.
AND SO WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH WHETHER OR NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS TO LET THE PUBLIC LOOSEN ALL THE DIFFERENT DESIGN ENGINEERS.
OUR JOB IS TO KEEP EVERYTHING STRAIGHT AND TO KEEP THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE WORKING ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS, RIGHT? TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY, WHETHER YOU ARE THE DESIGN ENGINEER, YOU'RE THE DESIGN ENGINEER, THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME LEVEL OF RESPONSE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT.
AND SO WE, WE MAY COME BACK WITH A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PROPOSAL THAT SAYS, OKAY, IF YOU'RE A CITIZEN AND YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THIS IS HOW YOU CONTACT US.
AND THEN THIS WAY WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN ENGINEERS ALL RESPOND IN THE SAME WAY, IN THE SAME TIMEFRAME.
AND THAT WE CAN TRACK THE COMMUNICATIONS.
CUZ YOU WILL COME BACK AND ASK US HOW MANY QUESTIONS DID YOU GET? RIGHT? YOU'LL WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY QUESTIONS WE GOT, WHAT OUR ANSWERS WERE FOR EVERY PROJECT.
AND SO, UM, I I HOPE, UM, YOU'LL ALLOW US TO JUST THINK THAT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT.
AND COME BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, MORE DETAILED PLAN THAT GETS YOU GUYS EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED, BUT ALSO ALLOWS US TO DO OUR JOB FOR YOU.
AND I DON'T WANT TO OVERWHELM YOU WITH RESIDENTS SAYING, HEY, I DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, I DON'T LIKE THE ROAD.
UH, CUZ THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
THEY'RE GONNA REACH OUT TO US BEFORE THEY REACH OUT TO YOU.
AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE TRUST YOU.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE THE ENGINEERS.
UM, I'M EXCITED TO, TO SEE YOU GUYS MOVING FORWARD TO THE DESIGN PART OF THIS, CUZ I THINK EVERYTHING WILL MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE.
LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL THE SIGNS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BE MADE.
SO, BUT WHAT I DO WANTED TO SEE IS, YOU KNOW, I JUST, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, LIKE SOME SORT OF WEEKLY CONSTRUCTION, AND I KNOW IF THIS SIGN IS GONNA TAKE LIKE THREE MONTHS, THEN JUST LEAVE THE WHOLE THING FOR THREE MONTHS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK IN THERE TO SEE, OKAY, THEY JUST FINALIZE, FINALIZE WITH LIKE B B BB DESIGN.UM, JUST FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BEFOR AND FOR US TO BE INFORMED.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE INTENDING TO DO.
THERE'S A GUY SITTING OVER HERE THAT'S JUST DYING TO FINISH THAT MASTER SCHEDULE UNTIL AND TO LET IT LOOSE.
AND THEY'RE THE KEEPERS OF THE SCHEDULE.
AND REALLY, AGAIN, THE REASON TO HAVE LIKE SORT OF ONE PIPE FOR EVERYTHING TO GO THROUGH IS EVERYTHING FROM, WE DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY CONFUSION WITH COMMUNICATIONS.
WE WANT PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHETHER THEY'RE ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT SIDE, WHETHER IT'S A NEW ROAD OR RECONSTRUCTION, WE WANT THEM TO GET THE SAME LEVEL AND TYPE OF INFORMATION.
WE DON'T WANT ANYONE COMING TO YOU SAYING MM-HMM
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT ALL GOES SMOOTHLY.
UM, AND THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION AND IF THERE'S A QUESTION THEY HAVE OR THERE'S A PIT OF INF A BIT OF INFORMATION THAT THEY WANT THAT THEY DON'T SEE THAT THEY, THAT THEY GET IT.
UM, SO THAT WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR WAY OF THINKING WILL NOT ONLY HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECTS, BUT IT'LL HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE'RE PERFORMING, RIGHT.
IF SOMEONE'S HAD A SCHEDULE BEHIND SCHEDULE, OH, I WOULD LOVE THAT.
I'M TOO EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT YES.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO WHOSE, UH, SCOPE IS IT TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN AN UPDATE, UH, WEBSITE THAT IN YOUR SCOPE? IT'S OURS.
WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UH, PUBLIC OUTREACH, RIGHT? UH, GAP STRATEGIES.
NOT HERE TODAY, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PART OF THE TEAM AND THEIR JOB.
AND WE'RE, WE STARTED THAT NOW, BUT AGAIN, WE DIDN'T, WE WANTED TO GET THROUGH TODAY.
UM, WE STARTED TO SKETCH OUT WHAT THAT PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE AND WE'RE WAITING FOR COMMENTS AND WE'RE GONNA GO BACK AND FINALIZE THE PLAN AND WE'LL SEND IT, NOT SEND IT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND PRESENT THAT PLAN AND MAKE SURE IT MAKES SENSE BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT IT.
FOR OUTREACH, RIGHT? FOR OUTREACH, WHICH INCLUDES MAYOR, HOW THAT PAGE ON THE WEBSITE WILL COME TOGETHER.
WHAT WILL THEN INCLUDE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS THERE, UH, IS THERE, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE FUNDING ALREADY OR WOULD, WOULD THERE BE POTENTIALLY A REQUEST TO, IN, YOU KNOW, TO BUDGET FOR RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, WEBSITE BUILDING FOR OUR TEAM AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE BRINGS? WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY, WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL WITH WHAT HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO US SO FAR.
BUT IT'S INCLUDED IN, WELL, LET ME, AND I WANT, I KIND OF WANT EVERYONE TO HEAR THIS, BUT IN, IN, IN, IN MY MIND, UH, BUILDING, THIS IS A REALLY GREAT TIME FOR US TO GET REAL CLEAR ABOUT WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS FOR THAT WEBSITE.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE GETTING READY TO BUILD THESE PROGRAMS AND THESE, THIS WEBSITE SHOULD LAST FOR YEARS.
UH, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS, UM, TOP, TOP GRADE IN TERMS OF ITS, UH, FUNCTIONALITY U UH, YOU KNOW, INTERACTIVE, YOU KNOW, HOW INTERACTIVE IT CAN BE, UH, HOW MUCH INFORMATION THAT IT GIVES.
AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE COPY AND PASTING GANTT CHARTS UP ON THE WEBSITE AND TELLING PEOPLE TO GO FIGURE IT OUT.
IT'S DESIGNED FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.
SO IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THAT WAY SO THAT IF YOU GO THERE, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE PERSON GONNA WANT TO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT ANY INDIVIDUAL ROADS AND HOW EASILY CAN THEY GET TO THAT INFORMATION? SO TO ME THAT'S A, THAT'S A, SHOULD BE A PRIORITY IS MAKING SURE THAT AS WE'RE LAUNCHING THIS PROGRAM, WE ALSO HAVE THE MINDSET.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE TACKING ON A WEBSITE, IT'S, WE ARE LAUNCHING A MULTI-YEAR LONG WEBSITE.
SO FOR MYSELF, IF THERE'S AN INVESTMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO BUILD THE, THE BACK END OF A PLATFORM TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN LOOKING AT.
UH, AND THEN, AND THEN ALSO CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE PROJECTS.
SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY IS SAYING.
AND, UH, I, I'M NOT GONNA WANNA LET THAT GO EITHER CUZ THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP US ALL.
BECAUSE WHEN FOLKS COME AND HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ROAD PROJECTS, ANY QUESTION THEY CAN HAVE NEARLY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THEM RIGHT THEN AND THERE.
AND ALL WE HAVE WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS DIRECT THEM TO THE, TO THE PROJECT.
AND IT CAN BE WHERE WE GO TO GET OUR OWN ANSWERS AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, WE, I I I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND AND WE, WE FULLY AGREE.
UM, THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS THAT IT, I I I DO GET IT RIGHT.
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WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WEBSITE, RIGHT? WHAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA TAKE MORE THAN A COUPLE YEARS TO IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING, IS THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUILDING A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE WEBSITE IS A BIG PART OF THAT, RIGHT? SO WE, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS TO, YOU DON'T LIVE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND EASY TO NAVIGATE.SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'RE GOING TO GET TO WORK ON COMPLETING THAT OUTLINE AND THAT PLAN AND WE'LL COME BACK RIGHT TO A COUNCIL MEETING IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU ALL.
AND WE'LL SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
DID WE CAPTURE EVERYTHING THAT YOU TOLD US ON THAT SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, THE 28TH? WAIT, MAYOR PRO TIP.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET MS. FLORES KILL.
I'LL BE, I'LL BE ONE OF THE LAST, SO THAT WAY YOU, I'LL BE THE LAST ONE.
DON'T WAY YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, WELL, I, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT UNDER THE WORK AUTHORIZATION, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANOTHER ONE BESIDES THE ONE IN JANUARY IS SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT DEVELOPING AND MAINTAINING A PROGRAM WEBSITE MM-HMM.
AND SO WHEN MAYOR MITCHELL ASKED IF THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL COST, I COULDN'T IMAGINE THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE INCLUDED.
UM, AND, AND I GUESS KIND OF WHAT WE WANNA KNOW IS LIKE, IS IT GONNA BE REAL-TIME EVENTS AND UPDATES? YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA STAY UPDATED, BUT AS MUCH AS US, IT'S GONNA BE THE RESIDENTS THAT WANNA BE UPDATED.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE DON'T GET AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WORK.
N NO, I, I, I SAID THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR, OUR SCOPE OF WORK.
I EXPECT THAT JUST IN A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR SOME, A PROJECT LIKE THIS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME DESIGN OF A WEBSITE FOR.
THE THE, THE OTHER THING I'LL ADD ABOUT JUST POSTING INFORMATION TO THE WEBSITE IS, AND I, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, IS IT WHEN WE START THE DESIGN, RIGHT? AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE RAMP UP TO THE, TO THE AMOUNT UNDER INFORMATION, THE DETAIL, RIGHT? THAT'LL RAMP UP AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE PROJECT.
SO OVER TIME IT'LL GET MORE, UM, I DUNNO, MORE INTENSE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN WE'RE JUST STARTING THE DESIGN, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT TO SHARE WITH PEOPLE OTHER THAN WE'RE IN DESIGN WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO REPORT, WE'LL COME OUT AND SEE YOU AND THIS IS THE SCHEDULE.
AND THEN AS YOU GET THROUGH THE DESIGN AND THERE'S INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT AND MORE INFORMATION WILL GET ADDED, THE INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, IN REAL TIME, RIGHT? UH, AND IN PERSON WILL, WILL RAMP UP.
AND THEN WHEN WE GO THROUGH CONSTRUCTION, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF INTERACTIONS,
AND, AND, AND THAT'S SORT OF THE SAME WAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REPORTING TO YOU, RIGHT? I MEAN, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I, I WANTED TO GET INTO THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY OFF.
WELL, I, SO I, I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK TO THAT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE IT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A HUGE, WIDE, WIDE RANGE OF WHAT THAT COULD MEAN TO YOU AS FAR AS WHAT DOES BUILDING A WEBSITE LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? FOR THIS PROGRAM, I'VE, YOU KNOW, SEEN, UH, BOND PROGRAMS THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE AND THAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE, AND THE INTERACTION THAT I'VE HAD ON THEIR WEBSITES HAVE BEEN DECENT.
SOME ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS, BUT THIS IS, IN MY MIND, THIS IS A, THE, YOU KNOW, $294 MILLION ROAD BOND.
SO THE REASON I'M ASKING ABOUT COST IS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO, AS FAR AS WHAT THE GOAL IS AND OBSTACLES TO THAT GOAL, I DON'T WANT ANY OBSTACLES TO BE GIVEN.
I JUST WANT TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL.
AND THE GOAL IS TO BUILD THE BEST ROAD BOND WEBSITE IN THE ENTIRE REGION IN TERMS OF IT, YOU KNOW, USABILITY, INTERACTIVE, INTERACTIVE, YOU KNOW, FEATURES.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS UPDATES, I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, I, I'M NERVOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I'M THINKING THAT RIGHT NOW THERE'S A TON OF WORK TO BE DONE TO ACTUALLY BUILD A WEBSITE THAT HAS THE KIND OF, UH, INTERACTIVE FEATURES THAT AT LEAST IS IN MY HEAD FOR US TO DO.
WE, WE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYOR, I THINK TWO DIFFERENT THINGS I WAS SEEING IN TERMS OF REPORTING.
THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK, YOU THINK, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY I'M COMING BACK.
I HEAR YOU SAY REPORTING AND I'M TALKING ABOUT WEBSITE BUILDINGS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT BACKEND CREATING OF CON UH, CREATING OF A, OF A, OF A WEBSITE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO THAT IS GOING TO BE INTERACTIVE WITH MAPS AND FEATURES SO THAT YOU CAN LEARN.
AND LIKE A LOT OF TIME NEEDS TO BE PUT IN TO BUILDING THIS WEBSITE.
AND IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT SCOPE.
CUZ THERE ARE COMPANIES WHO SPECIALIZE IN BUILDING REALLY GREAT WEBSITES AND THAT COSTS MONEY.
AND SO I'M, I'M WANTING, I DON'T WANT YOU TO SAY, WELL THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS WITHIN OUR ABILITIES TO DO AS FAR AS INTERACTIVE ELEMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I, I IMAGINE THAT, AGAIN, ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, WE GET THROUGH TODAY THAT ONCE
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WE INITIATE THE PROCESS, YOU'RE DESCRIBING THAT OUR TEAM WILL INTERACT A LOT WITH THE FOLKS AT THE CITY THAT MANAGE THE CITY'S WEBSITE, RIGHT? THAT I THINK AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE IS GONNA BE SORT OF A COOPERATIVE EFFORT, WE WILL BE PRODUCING THIS STUFF IN THE PAGE THAT SITS ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE, NOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING, I'M SORRY, THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO, RIGHT? TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR US, RIGHT? THAT, THAT, THAT WE CAN'T DO BECAUSE IT'S THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND IT'S THE CITY'S SERVICE AND THE LIT BUSINESS.THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP IN FRONT OF STAFF IN HERE IN THIS TIME.
CUZ I WANT, I WANT JERRY TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE BUILDING A WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN PARK THE INFORMATION ON OR WHO NEEDS TO TO BE, I JUST WANT SOMEONE TO BE IN CHARGE OF UNDERSTANDING, SAYING THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AND THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT WITH A REALLY GREAT, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY GREAT WEBSITE.
RIGHT? AND, AND, AND THIS, THE GUIDANCE YOU'RE ALL GIVING US NOW IS, IS VERY HELPFUL.
UM, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT, SO FAR YOU'VE TOLD US IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WANT AND HOW YOU WANT IT TO WORK AND FUNCTION.
WHAT WE WILL START TO DO IS TO ADD DETAIL TO THAT SO YOU CAN SEE IT AND SAY, YES, JOE, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING OR CLOSE, BUT YOU NEED TO MAKE THESE ADJUSTMENTS.
THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO WORK OUT WITH CITY STAFF ARE THE MECHANICS OF, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE BOMB PROGRAM.
HOW DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT COMPATIBLE WITH THE WAY YOU RUN YOUR WEBSITE OR NOT? AND IF IT ISN'T, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GET IT DONE.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT OUR, OUR TEAM DOES.
SO, UM, ON THE BB ROAD AND THE LAYMAN PICKED PICTURES, PROOFS, UH, YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ON SHOWING US WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO THEN I WAS ABLE TO CATCH THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE ROAD SIDE BY SIDE NEXT TO ANOTHER ROAD, BUT ON, ON ALL THE OTHER BONDS ROADS, YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE US THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL CONTOUR.
SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT AGAIN? UM, IN, IN A FASHION LIKE, LIKE THIS.
SO WHY, WHY, WHY DID THAT, WHY DID YOU NOT BRING THAT SO WE COULD SEE IT, YOU KNOW, VISUALLY? CUZ I'M HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT 35 CAREWAY PICK.
WHAT IS THAT GONNA LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S, BUT WHEN I SAW THESE HERE I CAN SEE YOUR ROUNDABOUTS, HOW THEY'RE GONNA GO, WHAT'S A TRAFFIC PATTERN COULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND I'M KIND OF A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT ON THE OTHERS I DON'T SEE MUCH OTHER THAN, UM, I MUST KNOW THAT THERE USED TO BE A ROAD AND IT GOT, IT'S GONNA GET A LITTLE WIDER.
AND, UH, SO THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO SEE, RIGHT? LIKE THIS KIND OF STUFF RIGHT HERE.
WELL, I, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
I, I, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S PROBABLY MY MISTAKE.
OH, WE HAD, UM, BEEN THROUGH ALL THOSE MORE DETAILED SCHEMATIC DESIGNS, YOU KNOW, EARLIER IN THE PROCESS AND, AND I, I GUESS I LOST SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I CAN OFFER YOU THIS.
THERE ARE, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY OUT THIS AFTERNOON, YOU COULD AND I, YEAH, IF I MISSED IT, THEN I MISSED NO, NO.
I WASN'T SURE IF I MISSED SOMETHING OR IS THIS THE FIRST TIME I'M ME, THIS IS ME MISSING THAT YOU, THAT YOU WEREN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY.
BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN I SAW THE ROAD BOND, I, I THINK I JUST SAW MAPS, RIGHT? BUT NOW YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT MORE REALISTIC, UM, PRINT REALISTIC, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND, AND SO WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW WHERE WE COULD, WE SHOULD START TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND, AND, AND I THINK HITTING BB YOU HIT, YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE BULLSEYE.
THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? THAT WELL, THE DESIGN IS NOT DONE YET, SO, RIGHT, RIGHT.
BUT THIS IS KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE DESIGNS, WHAT ARE THE INTENTIONS ALREADY? SO, SO I COULD, COULD, I COULD OFFER YOU TWO THINGS.
WE'RE LIKE IN PHASE ONE, REALLY.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE 10% SCHEMATICS ON ALL THE ROADS.
I'VE HAD TO REQUEST 'EM A COUPLE TIMES.
IT WOULD BE GOOD, I THINK MAYBE FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE 10% SCHEMATICS, UH, PD, YOU KNOW, DRILLED INTO A PDF OR SENT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT IT AT THAT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA OFFER.
WE CAN SEND YOU A LINK TO THOSE 10% SCHEMATICS, RIGHT? IS THAT SOMETHING SHAREABLE TO LIKE THE WHOLE RESIDENTS? THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE THAT I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THE MAYORS ASKING.
THEY, THEY ARE UP, THEY'RE ON, THEY'RE ON THE WALL OUT THERE TOO.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ON THE WALL AND I, I THINK THEY WERE THE WALL.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE PUT UP ON THE, THE WEBSITE.
BUT NO, WE, WE WILL SEND THE LINK OUT TO YOU.
AND WHILE WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE WEBSITE PRESENCE WILL ULTIMATELY LOOK
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LIKE, IF COUNCIL WANTS THEM PUT ON THE, THE, THE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, WEBSITE NOW THAT'S CERTAINLY IT.THAT THEY'VE, WE HAD A WORKSHOP THAT SHOWED THE SCHEMATICS, THEY'RE POSTED OUTSIDE AND WE CAN RESEND THE LINK TO, EVERYONE WON'T ASSUME THAT EVERYONE STILL HAS THE LINK THAT CONTAINS ALL THE 10% SCHEMATICS AND THOSE ARE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE BBB ROAD LOOKING TO, TO THE GRASS, TO THE WATER, TO THE EXISTING ROAD, WHATEVER THOSE 10% SCHEMATICS WERE.
BUT I, I WANT, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED.
JUST, IT, IT, I I JUST WANT TO CAUTION YOU THAT WHEN WE DID THE 10% SCHEMATICS, IT WAS A VERY, VERY TIGHT DEADLINE.
SO YOU MIGHT SEE A LITTLE BIT OF VARIATION IN WHAT THEY SHOW AND HOW THEY SHOW THEM.
BUT AGAIN, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, THEY WERE 10% SCHEMATICS.
THEY WERE DONE TO JUST GIVE US A REALLY, REALLY GOOD IDEA AS TO WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
SO COUNCIL KNEW, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FAITH IN, IN WHAT IT WAS AUTHORIZING.
UM, AND SO WE COULD GET A GOOD IDEA AS TO WHAT THE ISSUES WERE.
SO YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF VARIATION IN THEM, BUT THEY WILL ALL, WHAT WE'LL SEND YOU AND WHAT THE LINK WE'LL HAVE ARE DIAGRAMS, 10% SCHEMATICS THAT LOOK LIKE BB ROAD.
SOME WILL LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN OTHERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF NOT TODAY, EARLY NEXT WEEK.
I JUST WANTED TO JUST QUICKLY SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, I SEE THAT ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK INTO THIS, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE NEW TEAMS THAT ARE HERE.
SO WELCOME ABOARD, UH, ON THAT.
I THINK IT'S, UH, VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO SEE THAT WE WILL HAVE INDIVIDUAL TEAM MEMBERS, LEADERS THAT WILL BE DIRECT DIRECTED OR ASSIGNED TO EACH PROJECT.
UM, THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS AND LANDOWNERS THAT ARE HERE.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE SEE YOU HERE.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND BEING HERE, UH, TO HEAR THIS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP AND THINGS TO CONSIDER, AND ALSO FOR COUNSEL AND EVERYBODY ELSE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ROUNDABOUTS AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UM, SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER, WHAT IS THE, THE MAIN, UH, ACCOMPLISHMENT OR THE MAIN GOAL FOR EITHER OR SAFETY VERSUS THE CONVENIENCE FOR THE DRIVERS.
NUMBER THREE WOULD BE THE TRAFFIC FLOW, WHICH WOULD BE TO IMPROVE THE CONGESTION AND TIME LAPSE FOR BEING IN TRAFFIC VERSUS THE TRAFFIC CONTROL, WHICH IS LEADS TO SPEEDING AND ACCIDENT PREVENTION.
UM, THAT I HAD A, UH, DISCUSSION WITH A RESIDENT AND UH, THIS PERSON IN BUNTON CREEK WAS REALLY ALL FOR ROUNDABOUTS.
UM, SO THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE POSITIVE SIDES FOR A ROUNDABOUT VERSUS I HEAR PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS, ESPECIALLY IN A SCHOOL ZONE AREA WHERE YOU DO HAVE STUDENTS COMING BACK AND FORTH AND SO FORTH.
THE OTHER THINGS TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE'RE DOING ROUNDABOUTS IS IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD TWO LANES AS FAR AS THE TURNING, UH, WHO'S GONNA BE TURNING LEFT? WHO'S GONNA BE TURNING RIGHT? AND ALSO THE SPEED OF IT ALL.
AND AGAIN, ALSO IN A SCHOOL ZONE, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY TOP PRIORITY FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA VERSUS THE CONVENIENCE FOR DRIVERS TO GET THROUGH.
UM, SO THAT'S MY, MY COMMENT ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE CONTACTS WITH THE COUNTY AND TEXT DOT, I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED.
I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY BROUGHT IT UP AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BROUGHT THIS, BUT WHO AND WHAT AND WHO WOULD BE OUR CONTACTS WITH THE COUNTY, IF IT'S COMMISSIONERS OR THE COUNTY ROAD PROJECTS, UH, INDIVIDUALS, TECH DOC.
UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE UPDATE OUR OUT, OUT, UH, OUT COUNTY OR, OR STATE BOUNDARY OR CITY BOUNDARIES THAT WE IDENTIFY THOSE.
CUZ UM, COUNCIL MEMBER PARCY AND I, WE, WE TOOK A LITTLE ROAD TOUR AROUND THAT AREA AND AS WE WERE GOING PAST BUNTON, WE NOTICED THAT IT SAID HAYES COUNTY MAINTENANCE ENDS.
I THOUGHT WE WERE STILL IN THE CITY, BUT NOW WHY DOES THE SIGN SAY IT ENDS? SO I WONDER IF SOME OF THESE SIGNS OR THESE BOUNDARIES THROUGH YEARS OF ANNEXATION OR AREAS LIKE THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED SO THAT WAY WHEN RESIDENTS ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THIS A COUNTY ROAD OR IS THIS PART OF THE BOND ROAD FROM THE CITY? THEY HAVE AN UPDATED, UH, AREA ALSO.
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NUMBER TWO WOULD BE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE DIVISIONS OF FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WOULD INCLUDE FEDERAL FUNDING, WHICH WE HAVE HERE.ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS WITH TECH DOT, IF THERE'S ANY FUNDING THAT'S GONNA BE COMING OUR WAY TO THE COUNTY OR FROM A STATE LEVEL, IF WE CAN TAP INTO SOME OF THAT, YOU KNOW, TO MAYBE OFFSET SOME OF THESE BONDS OR TO HELP WITH ANY OF THE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS OR THE ENGINEERING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE THAT.
AND FOR THE CITY, UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, WITH THESE ENGINEERING PROJECTS AND ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION GOES ON, UH, I HOPE WE CAN BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE C I P PROJECTS, ANYTHING GOING FORWARD.
SO AS THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING EACH ONE OF THESE TEAMS THAT ARE DESIGNING AND BUILDING THE ROADS THAT THEY, UH, UPDATES HARPER AND HIS CREW IN HIS STREET DIVISION TO WHERE IF THEY NEED ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE OR ANY KIND OF LEVERAGE ON THAT END.
THAT WAY WHEN WE TAKE OVER THE ROADS, WE HAVE THAT FULL HISTORY OF THERE WAS AN EASEMENT HERE OR THIS USED TO BE A CREEK, OR THIS USED TO BE WATER PIPES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN TAKE IN CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK WE'VE ALL HIT THAT THIS LAST, UH, CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THE WEBPAGE, A WEB SIGN, MAKING SURE OUR LANDOWNERS AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE AWARE ON A WEEKLY BA WE'RE NOT SO MUCH A WEEKLY BUT AS, AS NEEDED BASIS FOR THEM.
I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT INTERACTIVE, I THINK OF MY DAYS YEARS AGO WORKING FOR A TECH COMPANY.
WE, WE LOOK AT MAYBE MAKING VIDEOS, ADDING REAL-TIME PHOTOS, HAVING A BACK HISTORY OF THE ROAD BOND OF LIKE WHEN IT ALL BEGAN, 2019 20.
AND THEN WE CAN BE ABLE TO SEND RESIDENTS, LIKE MS. PARSLEY WAS SAYING, THIS IS MY AREA OF TOWN.
WHAT'S THE UPDATE? WE CAN SEND THEM THE LINK AND THEN THAT LINK WOULD SAY BB ROAD OR THAT LINK WOULD SAY OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
THEY WOULD HAVE INTERACTIVE VIDEO PHOTOGRAPHS, PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, YOU KNOW, AND THE DATES, UH, ESTIMATED COMPLETIONS.
NOW I KNOW, UH, COUNCILMAN ZU ZUNIGA IS BRINGING UP THE MAPS AND THE DESIGN.
AGAIN, IT'S 10% DESIGN RIGHT NOW, BUT THOSE COULD CHANGE.
SO IF WE SEND ALL THAT OUT NOW PEOPLE ARE GONNA ASSUME IT'S GONNA BE LOOKING LIKE THIS.
BUT IN REALITY, ONCE WE START DIGGING, WE NOTICE THAT THERE'S BARRIERS, THERE'S CREEKS, THERE'S HILLS, THERE'S VALLEYS, THERE'S DOMES, WHATEVER IT IS, THOSE ARE GONNA CHANGE.
SO UPDATING EACH INDIVIDUAL PAGE, RIGHT? THAT HAS INTERACTIVE VIDEO, INTERACTIVE MAPS, CUZ THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE USUALLY WANT TO DO.
THEY WANT TO SEE IT FOR THEMSELVES AND ALSO READ, THIS IS THE TIMELINE FOR COMPLETION.
THIS IS THE TIMELINE FOR THIS.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF, UH, INFORMATION WE'RE HAVING.
ROUNDABOUTS GONNA BE STARTING GOING FORTH.
THAT WAY WE CAN SEND E EACH PERSON THEIR LINK CUZ EVERYBODY LIVES AROUND TOWN AND THEY MAY NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT BB IF THEY LIVE OVER THERE OFF CENTER STREET.
SO WE CAN DIRECT THEM INDIVIDUALLY TO THAT.
AND ALSO, LIKE THEY WERE STATING AS WELL, HAVING A POINT OF CONTACT WHETHER IT'S WITH COUNCIL AND THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THE TEAM MEMBERS AND WORK WITH THE RESIDENT IF THEY HAVE FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS ON THAT END.
SO WE CAN HAVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THIS AREA OR AT LARGE OR WHOEVER, AND IT HAS THE MANAGER AND ALSO SOMEBODY FOR THE CITY.
SO THAT WAY THEY COULD HAVE THREE CONTACTS IF NEED BE.
AND THEN WE CAN BE ABLE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE RESIDENTS ON THAT LEVEL THERE.
AND THEN THEY CAN THEN PASS THAT INFORMATION FROM THERE.
IF WE NEED TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA, WE CAN LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF GENERATION PEOPLE THAT USE THE TIKTOK AND WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO THAT ROUTE, BUT AS FAR AS FACEBOOK, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT SOCIAL MEDIA VERSUS WEBSITES.
AND WE CAN DO SOME KIND OF INTERACTIVE ON THAT END.
PHASE ONE ON BB ROAD COMPLETION, HERE'S A PHOTO, HERE'S A VIDEO.
WE CAN MAYBE COLLABORATE WITH OUR IT AND OUR, UM, MEDIA IF, UH, SOMETHING THAT RACHEL AND THEM WOULD BE, UH, INTERESTED IN OR WE CAN HELP WORK TOGETHER WITH TO SHOW, HEY, HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON STAGE COACH PHASE ONE'S BEING COMPLETED.
THIS IS THE TIMELINE AND WE JUST INTERACTED FROM THERE AND WE CAN SEND PEOPLE THE LINK AND THEN THEY CAN SHARE IT WITHOUT THE RESIDENTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY FEEDBACK ON THAT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND I YIELD THE FORM.
OH, SO I DID FIND THE WEBSITE.
THANK YOU DANIELLA, FOR SENDING IT.
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SO THAT IS THE POINT.UM, WENDY HILL ROAD, I ASKED YOU EARLIER ABOUT THE S CURVATURE.
THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING ROAD THERE, BUT THIS NEW PROJECT IS NOT REUSING THE ALREADY EXISTING ROAD.
SOMEHOW, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN HERE LIKE YOU DID ON BB ROAD, JUST SO WE ALREADY HAVE A ROAD.
I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA SEE TWO PARALLEL ROADS.
NO, THE, THE, THERE WOULD BE FOR WIND HILL RELOCATING IT AND THEN FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET, WE'D BE ABANDONING THE PORT THAT'S BEEN RELOCATED.
SO WE'RE REMOVING THAT, RIGHT? AND, AND IT'S TO MAKE THE ROAD SAFER AND MORE EFFICIENT.
WE'RE RELO REDUCING THE, THE CURVE.
AND, AND SO THERE WILL BE, AND I CAN'T RECITE THE EXACT PORTION, BUT THERE'LL BE A PORTION OF IT, OF EXISTING WIND HILL ROAD THAT WILL NO LONGER BE USED.
THAT PART, IT MIGHT GET REUSED FOR THE VIBE.
WELL, SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY FIGURED ALL THAT OUT YET, RIGHT.
EXCEPT TO KNOW THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING PIECE OF WIND HILL ROAD THAT WILL NOT BE USED AND WILL EITHER BE ABANDONED OR USED FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE.
AND, AND THAT MIGHT EVEN INVOLVE, YOU KNOW, COORDINATION WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE RIGHT AWAY IS NEEDED.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD GO ON WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT I SEE WIND VERY, I WANT TO SEE VERY CLEAN, VERY CLEAN ROADS IN, IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR CITY, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEMOING THAT PART.
WELL, I, I, AGAIN, I DON'T, I I I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO ASSUME THAT THE ROAD IS GONNA BE DEMOED.
IT'LL BE ABANDONED IF THERE'S ANOTHER USE FOR IT, RIGHT? FOR, UH, LIKE A TRAIL, RIGHT? BUT, BUT AGAIN, COUNCIL, REMEMBER THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT GET FIGURED OUT AS WE GET THROUGH THE DESIGN THAT THERE'S, AND I DO RECOGNIZE THAT AT 10% THERE'S A TON OF QUESTIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO YET.
RIGHT? BUT THAT IS NOT BECAUSE WE'VE NOT DRILLED INTO IT THAT THAT IS BY DESIGN.
BECAUSE THE NATURE OF THE PROCESS IS WHEN YOU'RE UP HERE, YOU HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND LOTS OF IDEAS AND AS YOU GET DOWN AND, AND SO WHETHER I, I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A PORTION OF WIND HILL ROAD THAT WILL NOT BE USED FOR CARS ANYMORE.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS TO THAT AS YET TO BE FIGURED OUT, RIGHT? AND NOW YOUR INPUT'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT? TO SAY THAT YOU JUST DON'T WANT OLD ROADS LYING AROUND.
RIGHT? AND I GET IT, RIGHT, WHO WANTS? BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANOTHER USE FOR IT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK WITH THAT.
IF, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF GIVING UP THAT SWATH RIGHT, TO BE ABLE TO GET THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE NEW ROAD.
I MEAN THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT CAN HAPPEN.
BUT THAT'S WHAT TODAY IS ABOUT.
IT'S TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN GET ALL THESE ANSWERS AND GET THINGS UNDERWAY.
AND IF I MIGHT ADD, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT BB ROAD WHERE THE CURVE WAS, WHERE MS. PARSLEY WAS KIND OF QUESTIONING, WHAT WOULD WE DO WITH IT? AND SAME THING WITH YOUR QUESTION.
UH, THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THAT MOBILE HOME PARK ON THAT OTHER SIDE.
SO IT COULD BE USED INSTEAD OF TEARING THAT CURVE OUT THAT COULD BE USED PART OF THE NEW SUBDIVISION.
AND IT'S ALL IN DESIGN PROCESS, RIGHT? OKAY.
IT'S ALL USING WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE.
AND IF THERE'S ANOTHER PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE COULD USE THAT PART OF THAT ROAD INSTEAD OF GUTTING IT.
WE COULD SAY, HEY LOOK, LET'S GO AND IMPROVE IT AND MAKE THAT ANOTHER ENTRANCE OR AN EXIT OR A MORE SAFER ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THAT SUBDIVISION AND, AND, AND USING WHATEVER WE HAVE THERE AND USING THAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S PRETTY GOOD TIMING.
THAT'S, SO I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE ACTUALLY CONVENE, GIVE OURSELVES A CHANCE TO HAVE A BATHROOM BREAK AND GRAB SOME OF THE FOOD IN THE BACK.