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[I. Call Meeting to Order]
IS 7:01 PM IT IS TUESDAY, MARCH THE 21ST, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY HEAD JUSTICE FRAUD.THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO, PLEASE DO SO.
WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
FIRST UP IS CHIEF JEFF BARNETT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
TODAY IS A HISTORIC DAY FOR THE CO POLICE DEPARTMENT TODAY.
EARLIER THIS EVENING, WE SWORE IN NINE NEW POLICE SUPERVISORS THAT IS HISTORIC IN NUMBERS, HISTORIC IN THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE PROMOTING AT THE COLL POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US USE THE CHAMBERS TONIGHT FOR THIS WONDERFUL EVENT.
THIS, THIS BEGAN WITH OUR MEETING CONFER AGREEMENT TO WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL JOINED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN PROVIDING A PATHWAY TO HIRE, PROMOTE AND CHAMPION OUR LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE COULD BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE MEETING CONFER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN GROW AND SERVE THIS CITY IN A WAY THAT MAKES YOU PROUD.
TONIGHT, WE ARE HERE TO RECOGNIZE THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN PROMOTED EARLIER.
WE WILL START WITH OUR COMMANDERS.
TO MY LEFT, YOU WILL SEE THE PROMOTED OFFICERS.
WE HAVE COMMANDER JAMES JONES.
WE HAVE COMMANDER JONATHAN ACRES.
WE HAVE SERGEANTS JOSEPH SWANKY, SERGEANT KEITH CONGDON, SERGEANT PHILLIP CLEARY, SERGEANT MATTHEW MICHAELSON.
WE HAVE POLICE CORPORAL COL BRYANT POLICE, CORPORAL ANTHONY GUZMAN, POLICE CORPORAL TARA MAYFIELD.
VIGILS WILL GO FORTH, SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, SERVE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY WILL MAKE YOU PROUD.
THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A VERY RIGOROUS TESTING AND ASSESSMENT CENTER PROCESS TO ACHIEVE THEIR PROMOTION.
WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM, AND WE WANT TO OFFER THEM TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND TO THE REST OF THE WORLD, HOW PROUD WE ARE OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN PROMOTED TONIGHT, WE WILL BE RETIRING FROM HERE AND MOVING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE THEY'LL BE REGRETED WITH A RECEPTION HONORING THEIR NEW PROMOTION AND THEIR ACHIEVEMENT.
IF I MAY ASK FOR A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THE NEWLY PROMOTED OFFICERS.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, MS. SUSAN REYNA.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
I'M A RESIDENT OF KYLE, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A BOARD MEMBER OF PRESERVATION ASSOCIATES, WHICH OWNS THE CATHERINE ANN PORTER HOUSE DOWN THE STREET,
AND I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE A, A DIFFERENT EXCITING EVENT COMING UP THIS WEEK.
UM, THIS, UH, FRIDAY, WE WILL HAVE IN KYLE JERICHO BROWN, WHO IS A PULITZER PRIZE-WINNING POET.
HE WILL BE SPEAKING THIS FRIDAY, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AT 5 0 8 WEST CENTER STREET AT THE CATHERINE M. PORTER HOUSE AT 7:30 PM AND IT'S FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
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YOU ALL AND ALL OF THE CITY OF KYLE TO COME OUT AND SEE HIM.WE'LL SET UP EXTRA CHAIRS AS NEEDED.
UM, SO WE HAVE OUTSIDE SPACE, SO OVERWHELM US.
ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S FRIDAY, MARCH 24TH AT 7:30 PM AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.
BUT THAT IS ALL OF THE CITIZEN COMMENT FORMS THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
UP, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING ON MARCH THE SEVENTH, INCLUDING THE REGULAR SPECIAL MEETING ON MARCH THE SEVENTH AS WELL.
SECOND, MOTION BY MAYOR PROTE TOBIAS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MARCH 7TH.
IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL AS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[IV. Agenda Order]
THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO PROPOSE TO MOVE ANY, ANY ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE.[4. Recognizing KASZ City Hall front desk volunteers. ~ Michael Tobias, Mayor Pro Tem and Miguel Zuniga, Ph.D., Council Member]
UH, NEXT UP IS PRESENTATION.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RECOGNIZING THE KALLAH AREA, SENIOR ZONE, CITY HALL, FRONT DESK VOLUNTEERS.
THIS IS MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.
I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HONOR TO BRING THIS FORWARD.
THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, WANTED TO RECOGNIZE FOR A WHILE, OUR VOLUNTEERS HERE.
AND I WANT TO THANK FIRST OF ALL, UH, AS WELL, UH, FOR CO-SPONSORING WITH ME, COUNCILMAN, UH, MR. ZUNIGA, FOR HELPING ME WITH THIS TODAY.
SO DATING BACK OF, UH, SEPTEMBER OF 2021.
THE THEN CITY MANAGER SCOTT SELLERS, UH, ASKED LARRY SIMONE, THE EX, UH, PRESIDENT OF CAS.
IF MEMBERS OF THE CA ORGANIZATIONS WERE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER FOR MEMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR ORGANIZING.
HE WAS ALSO FOR ORGANIZING THIS EFFORT.
THIS EFFORT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT WAS TO OFFSET EMPLOYEE COSTS TIED TO THE FRONT DESK, BUT ALSO A WAY TO ENCOURAGE OUR VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO BY NOVEMBER OF 2021, CA MEMBER NELIA BARRETA RECRUITED STAFF FROM CA FOR THIS NEW VENTURE.
WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF MIKE HARDICK TRAINING AND OPERATING PROCEDURES WERE ESTABLISHED, MS. BARRETA ACTS AS A LIAISON BETWEEN THE CITY HALL AND CAS MS. PERZA, ALSO WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF DEBBIE GTA OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM, TRAINS THE VOLUNTEERS AND CREATES THE DAILY SCHEDULES AND MAKES SURE THE POSITION IS MANNED AS THE NEED ARISES.
SO A LOT OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE GIVING HERE ARE TO ANSWER THE PHONES AND TO RESPOND, UH, APPROPRIATELY TO ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, PEOPLE MAY HAVE A FRIENDLY GREETING, WHICH I SEE ALL THE TIME WHEN I COME IN THE CITY HALL AND DIRECTING CITY HALL VISITORS AND CUSTOMERS TO THE REQUESTED DEPARTMENTS.
THEY ALSO INFORM CITY HALL EMPLOYEES OF MAIL PACKAGES, VISITORS THAT WAIT AT THE FRONT DESK AND THE LOBBY.
THEY SPEAK TO RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS, OR NEWLY MOVED RESIDENTS OF ALL AVAILABLE CITY AND COUNTY RESOURCES NEEDED.
SO CURRENTLY THERE ARE 14 FULL-TIME VOLUNTEERS OF WHICH SERVE SEVEN ARE FROM THE AMBITS ORGANIZATION.
VOLUNTEERS ARE GRACE, ARE VERY GRACIOUS OF THEIR TIME IN THEIR EFFORTS.
AND UP TO 2022, THEY HAVE UP TO 1,931 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER HOURS.
AND, UH, WE ARE SO PROUD OF ALL OF YOU FOR DOING THIS.
SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA BEFORE, UH, HIS WORDS.
AND THEN ONCE WE'RE DONE, WE HAVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION FOR THEM.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR POTENT TOVIAZ.
UH, SO I'D LIKE TO JUST SECOND THAT BY SAYING, UM, OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE THE FOUNDATION OF OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT YOUR VOLUNTEER WORK AND EFFORT AND TIME THAT YOU YOU PUT IN TO REALLY HELP THE RESIDENTS AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.
SO, UH, JUST LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE EVERY INTERN, EVERY VOLUNTEER, WE SEE THE WORK THAT YOU DO, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, AND, UM, HOW HELPFUL IT IS.
SO, UM, JUST SAY, JUST, JUST TO SAY THOSE, THOSE WORDS, UM, UH, OF OUR VOLUNTEERS ARE, ARE SPECIAL.
AND, AND THE WORK YOU DO IS, IS VERY SPECIAL AND WE LOVE YOU.
UH, IT IS, IT IS SUCH AN HONOR TO SEE SO MANY OF YOU VAL VOLUNTEERS COME UP AND HELP OUT.
UH, WE SEE YOU AT THE FRONT DESK.
LIKE I SAID, I, WHEN I'VE COME TO THE CITY HALL, EVERYBODY'S SO FRIENDLY, SO COURTEOUS, AND IT, AND FOR SOMEBODY WHO, AT ONE TIME I EXPERIENCED THEY HAD JUST MOVED TO KYLE AND, UH, DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO APPLY FOR PERMITS OR TO LOOK FOR THEIR ELECTRICITY BILL OR WHO TO CONTACT.
THE, THE PERSON THAT WAS AT THE DESK WAS VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO 'EM.
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WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE.WE LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT TO SHOW, HEY, WE ARE A COMMUNITY THAT CARES.
AND IT'S ALL OF YOU VOLUNTEERS THAT REALLY, REALLY MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE.
AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A LITTLE PRESENT, UH, AN ITEM FOR YOUR, FOR YOU, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
ANY WORDS, UH, REFERENCING OUR VOLUNTEERS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE.
UM, THERE'S NOT ONE TIME THAT I'VE COME INTO CITY HALL THAT SOMEONE HASN'T BEEN SEEN UP THERE AND THEY HAVEN'T SAID, HEY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? AND JUST HAD A CONVERSATION AND MADE THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE, UH, COMING IN, UH, REALLY AMAZING.
AND SO THAT'S JUST ME COMING IN TO CHECK MY MAIL.
I CAN'T IMAGINE LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN LOOKING FOR BILLS WHO FIND GUIDANCE FROM YOU GUYS, UM, THAT THEY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT ANY LESS.
AND SO THE, ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO ARE WILLING TO, UH, GIVE UP YOUR FREE TIME AND COME IN HERE, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, I JUST HAVE SOMETHING I HAVE TO SAY.
UM, IT IS TO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING NICER THAN COMING TO CITY HALL AND HAVING YOUR SMILEY FACES GREETING US WHEN, WHEN EVERYBODY WALKS IN THE DOOR.
SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND PUTTING THE LOVE THAT YOU PUT INTO VOLUNTEERING FOR THE CITY.
SO WITH THAT, UH, WE HAVE A LITTLE, UH, SURPRISE.
IF I CAN MAYBE HAVE COUNCILMAN ZUKA, IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP TO THE FRONT.
WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT ALL OF YOU WITH CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION.
AND ONE OF THEM HERE, I'LL JUST GO WITH THIS ONE HERE, IS IN RECOGNITION FOR OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARD THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND APPRECIATION FOR SELFISHNESS.
GIVING YOUR LONG HOURS OF DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF KYLE WITHOUT ASKING FOR ANYTHING IN, IN RETURN IS TRULY APPRECIATED.
PRESENTED ON THIS DAY, MARCH 21ST, SIGNED BY MYSELF, MAYOR PRO, TIM MICHAEL TOBIAS, UH, COUNCILMAN MICHAEL ZUNIGA, AND ALSO THE INTERN CITY MANAGER, JERRY HENDRICKS.
SO IF I WOULD, COULD GET THE FIRST PERSON, UH, MS. NELIA BADRA.
MAY I SAY ONE LITTLE THING? SURE.
I WANTED TO HONOR MR. DO MR. DON CROW.
HE WAS OUR VERY FIRST VOLUNTEER.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO 90 YEARS OLD, THE PODIUM TO THE PODIUM? MS, PLEASE.
I HAVE A LONG SPEECH, BUT AT AT LEAST I WANTED TO HONOR MR. CROW.
HE WAS 90 YEARS OLD WHEN HE CAME HERE.
HE WAS THE FIRST ONE ON THAT MONDAY MORNING, AND DEBBIE WAS THERE, AND I WAS THERE, AND IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR YAYS AND YOUR YESES ALL THIS YEAR AND HELPING, UH, THE KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
J JERRY HENDRIX IS JUST A GENTLEMAN THAT ALWAYS WALKS BY AND ALWAYS SAYS HELLO AND GIVES YOU YOUR HAND.
MR. LEON, BARBARA, I THINK HE'S IN THE BACK.
MR. BARBARA WAS ALWAYS VERY GRACIOUS.
AMBER, SO MANY OF YOU THAT I'VE SEEN AND, AND THE HUMILITY THAT Y'ALL BRING TO THE SIN SENIOR CITIZEN ZONE, Y'ALL GO IN AND SERVE COFFEE.
I MEAN, FOR GOD'S SAKE, THAT IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL, UM, GESTURE FOR AN OLDER PERSON.
UH, SOMEONE LIKE YOU THAT IS SO HONORABLE AND YOU HAVE SO MUCH THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO COME OVER THERE AND SERVE THE SIMPLICITY OF CAFE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
NEXT UP WE HAVE DOMINGO CASTILLA, CASTILLA CASTILLA, MIKE HARDICK, ANGIE HARDICK, HARK, NELLY AS TROGA AS, I'M SORRY, FOR VIRGINIA.
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ES MR. HOWARD COHEN, BEN AR MENEZ, NO, GILBERT AR MENEZ, MARGIE ALVARADO, MR. DON CROW.MR. FRED WHITE IS BARBARA STOCK, IT'S SE MERRILL, MS. IRENE MARTINEZ, MR. BRUCE GILSON, MR. JOE CALLO, AND MR. CHRIS CALKINS.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU SENIOR CAST FOR ALL YOUR VOLUNTEER WORK.
WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, COUNSEL, IF WE CAN GET A, A GROUP PHOTO, PULL US BACK A LITTLE BIT.
IF WE CAN SQUISH JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS SIDE.
SORRY, I'M TRYING TO LOWER THIS.
CAN WE MAYBE GET Y'ALL JUST A SQUINCHED IN JUST A TINY BIT MORE, JUST A STEP OR TWO THERE? LOWER THIS.
[5. Presentation and discussion of the Mueller development information tour. ~ Daniela Parsley and Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Members]
UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT INFORMATION TOUR.UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, PARSLEY AND FLORES KALE.
ARE WE, UM, HOW ARE WE DOING THIS? YOU GO FOR US.
WE ARE ALWAYS, WE HAD ALL OF THIS AMAZING NOTES IN THERE, SO I DID TAKE AMAZING NOTES.
SO, UH, IT WAS MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER, PARSLEY, AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOBI.
WE TOOK A TRIP UP TO THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT, AND IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN OVER TO THE MUL MUELLER DEVELOPMENT, IT'S THE OLD AIRPORT IN AUSTIN.
UM, AND IT'S LITERALLY A COMMUNITY WITHIN A COMMUNITY.
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AND WE'VE LEARNED A LOT OF STUFF ABOUT HOW THEY BUILT IT, UM, AND THEIR GOALS AND THE SUSTAINABILITY.UM, AND FOR ME IT WAS LEARNING THAT A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS IS POSSIBLE.
UM, I WOULD NOT PUT IT EVERYWHERE IN KYLE, BUT IT'S IN IN AREAS.
UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST WANNA GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY WANNA BE THE ONE TO LIKE READ IT VERBATIM
UM, IT IS A MIXED INCOME, MIXED USE ECONOMY AND IS LOCATED IN THE HEART OF AUSTIN.
UH, IT'S A REDEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE FORMER ROBERT MUELLER AIRPORT.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT IS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND, UH, CATALYST DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
UM, THE DISCUSSION FOR THIS PLANNED COMMUNITY STARTED IN 2000, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED, OR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED FOUR YEARS LATER, DECEMBER 2ND, 2004.
UM, SO IF YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.
THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT TAX RETAINMENT, 20 YEAR TOURS, AND IT EXPIRES IN 2024, UH, WHICH MEANS NEXT YEAR.
SO THE GOALS FOR THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT, UM, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A REALLY GREAT IDEA TO SET THESE GOALS AND THEN TO BUILD AROUND ALL OF WHAT, WHAT THEY HAD HOPED FOR OR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, EAST AUSTIN REVITALIZATION, UH, WHICH REMINDS ME OF DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION.
THE INTEREST TO LIVE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS SO HIGH THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER HAD TO, UH, CREATE A LOTTERY, UH, IN ORDER TO SET UP THE FIRST SET OF HOMES.
25% OF THESE HOMES AND RENTALS ARE SET UP AS INCOME BASED.
THESE HOMES ARE THE EXACT SAME HOMES AS THE SURROUNDING HOMES, BUT ARE LIMITED TO INCOME.
UH, THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT UTILIZES THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S DESIGN COMMISSION.
UM, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING UP BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT KIND OF MIMICS THAT.
UM, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THIS COMMISSION WILL LOOK AT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING INTO THIS COMMUNITY, AND THEY WILL FIRST DECIDE IF IT'S UP TO PAR, AND THEN THE COUNCIL WILL MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
I'LL, I'LL KEEP THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
THE CITY'S DESIGN COMMISSION PROVIDES RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ASSIST IN DEVELOPING PUBLIC POLICY AND PROMOTE EXCELLENCE IN DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPERS CANNOT OBTAIN A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN COMMISSION.
DANIEL, DO YOU WANNA, UM, SO THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS THAT WERE EYECATCHING FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT ALONE.
UM, I LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY HAD SOME STANDARDS THAT NO HOUSE HAD TO BE THE SAME.
LIKE THEY HAD TO HAVE DIFFERENT MODELS THAT THE SAME BUILDER HAD IN DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, THAT NO MATTER THE FACT THAT 25% OF THE HOMES FOR CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS, UM, HAD TO BE GIVEN, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES WAS REALLY GREAT.
UM, THERE IS ALL KINDS OF TYPES OF HOUSING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
YOU HAVE THE BIG HOUSE, YOU HAVE THE SMALLER HOUSE, YOU HAVE THE TOWNHOMES.
UM, THE RAINWATER COLLECTION AND SOME OF THE PROPERTIES WAS REALLY ALSO INTERESTING TO SEE, OF COURSE, THAT THE SIGN OF THESE RAINWATER BARRELS HAD TO BE APPROVED.
UM, AND THEY WERE VERY APPEALING, LIKE EYE APPEALING.
IT JUST GOES WITH THE REST OF THE ARCHITECTURE.
UM, THAT SIGN THAT IS IN THE BOTTOM THAT SAYS THE CONSERVE TO CONSERVE WATER, THESE BUILDING USES RECLAIMED WATER TO FLUSH THE TOILETS.
AND U NOSE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UM, REALLY INTERESTING FOR US.
THE, LET ME MENTION, SEE WHAT OTHER POINTS I HAD IN NOTING HERE.
UM, THE, THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE SO MANY GREEN SPACES, UM, WAS VERY, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
THEY FOCUS A LOT ON HAVING WALKABILITY EVERYWHERE AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY HAVE SEVERAL WATER FEATURES, A LOT OF PARKS.
UM, NO HOUSE WAS LIKE EQUAL TO THE NEXT ONE, AND YOU WILL HAVE A MODERN HOME, WHICH WE HAD IN THE PAST LIGHT, UM, AND RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
THEN YOU HAVE MORE CLASSIC LIKE THAT ONE, THOSE TWO HOUSES.
THAT ONE WAS NEXT TO ANOTHER ONE WAS, I THOUGHT I HAD THEM TOGETHER.
UM, SO THE DEVELOPERS, THE, THE BUILDERS HAVE THE CHANCE TO BUILD ALL ALONG THE PROPERTY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS SECTION BELONGS TO EMPIRE OR THE NEXT EXTENSION BELONGS TO, UM, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOMES.
SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS.
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UM, COM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE WELCOME CENTER.THEN YOU GET TO SEE THE FULL PLAN, THE FULL MASTER PLANNING, HOW THEY HAVE IT, UM, HOW THEY WANNA BUILD IT.
SO THAT GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT FOR THE NEXT, UH, HOMES THAT ARE GONNA BE BUILT.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, MAYOR PRETEND WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
UM, COUPLE POINTS THAT I, THAT I LIKED WHEN I WAS THERE, OR JUST WITH, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE, WE GO TO THESE PLACES TO GET JUST NOT SO MUCH IDEAS, BUT JUST TO SEE HOW THINGS WORK, UH, FOR PROGRAMS OR THINGS THAT WE, WE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT IN OUR FUTURE.
UM, EXACTLY WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSES, THERE'S A PHOTO THERE OF A HOUSE THAT WAS RIGHT THERE.
ANOTHER ONE WAS KIND OF SIMILAR TO IT, BUT NOT SO MUCH.
BUT THEN THEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THE PRICING OF THE HOUSES ARE DIFFERENT.
LIKE ONE'S LIKE, OKAY, WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK WOULD GO FOR, YOU KNOW, 800,000 VERSUS THE OTHER ONE THAT'S FOR 200? YOU COULDN'T REALLY TELL, BUT IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT THEY'RE SET UP TO WHERE THAT WAS THEIR WAY OF HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, A SPECIFIC TYPE OF PRICING THAT IS TO BE INCLUDED IN, IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT IN IN SQUARE FOOTAGES AND SO FORTH.
SO THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOUSES IN THAT AREA WITHIN A CERTAIN PRICE RANGE, AND KEEP IT WITHIN THAT PRICE RANGE TO BRING THAT DIVERSITY IN AS WELL.
UH, WITH, WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAD JUST BARELY MENTIONED TO, UH, A COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MS. UH, BRAK HERE WAS WHEN WE WERE GOING ON THE STREETS SCAPE, WE NOTICED THAT ON SOME OF THE CURBS ON THE STREET WHERE IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESSES, THEY HAD SOME LITTLE OUTLETS OR LITTLE INLETS TO WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING UBER OR ANY KIND OF PICKUPS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A DESIGNATED SECTION TO BE PICKED UP AT.
AND, UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY NEAT BECAUSE THERE WAS, PEOPLE WOULD JUST KIND OF WAIT FOR THEIR VEHICLES AND INSTEAD OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO STREET OR YOU GO TO A CITY, OR YOU GO TO A TOWN AND YOU'RE WAITING FOR AN UBER, THE CAR JUST KIND OF STOPS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, RIGHT? OR ON THE SIDE.
WELL, THESE ACTUALLY HAD DESIGNATED AREAS WITHIN, AROUND THE COMPLEX TO WHERE YOU COULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT AND SAY, THIS IS SECTION A OR WHATEVER, OR, OR PICK ME UP AT HERE.
AND, UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS, THAT WAS PRETTY NEAT ON THAT.
IN THERE, THE GREEN SPACE WAS, UH, SPECTACULAR AS WELL.
IF YOU SAW, THERE WAS A PICTURE OF THE LAKE ITSELF.
UH, THEY JUST HAD IT ALL TO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF ACCESSIBILITY OR TO WALK AROUND THE, THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THE HOUSES, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, UM, THE BUSINESSES ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO THAT, THAT LOOKED, UH, VERY ENTICING BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE THERE, WE WERE THERE ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON, FRIDAY MORNING, AND THERE WAS JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE OUT THERE JUST SITTING OUT THERE HAVING A PICNIC.
YOU HAD PEOPLE OUT THERE EXERCISING, THEY WERE WALKING, THEY WERE RIDING THEIR BIKES, AND IT WAS JUST TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT IN THAT OPEN FIELD TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, THAT QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT.
I KNOW THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN ZUKA BRINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING PARK SPACE AND HAVING, UH, THOSE KIND OF NATURE TRAILS.
UH, WE DID SEE THAT TOO, TO WHERE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR TRAIL SYSTEM HAD GRAVEL, AND THEN IT WOULD BREAK OFF TO WHERE IT WOULD HAVE CONCRETE, BUT UP TO A CERTAIN POINT TO WHERE THAT'S JUST WHERE THE RUNOFF OF THE WATER WOULD BE AND BE ABLE TO BREAK OFF AGAIN ON THE, UH, THE, THE, THE DIRT TRACK.
UH, ANOTHER POINT THAT I NOTICED THAT THEY DID HAVE SOME ROUNDABOUTS.
I KNOW LEON WAS YEAH, WOULD'VE REALLY LIKED THAT
OKAY? THEY HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISLAND TO WHERE IF SOMEBODY WAS TO CROSS, THEY STILL HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A DESIGNATED SAFE SPACE.
BUT WITHIN THAT LITTLE ISLAND, THERE WAS ACTUAL, UH, SHRUBBERY OR THERE WAS ACTUALLY, UH, A NICE LANDSCAPING THAT WAS THERE WITH A STREET LIGHT, OR JUST LIKE A LAMPPOST.
AND THEN THAT WAY WHEN CARS WOULD GO BY, THE PERSON CAN PROCEED ON TO, AND OF COURSE IT WOULD HAVE THE, THEY'RE CALLED, CALLED PEDESTRIAN REFUGEES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY DID HAVE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT IT, IT WASN'T KIND OF LIKE HOW WE SEE LIKE BURSON OR C CENTER RANCH.
THEY ACTUALLY HAD LITTLE ISLANDS IN THE MIDDLE FOR THE PEDESTRIANS TO BE ABLE TO, LIKE, IF THEY'RE WALKING THEIR DOG OR WHATEVER, THEY CAN ACTUALLY STOP OR, OR HAVE A, A YIELD SPACE.
UM, THEN THE OTHER THING I NOTICED AS WE WERE WALKING INTO THE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, UH, EXACTLY, YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY HAD A HUGE WATER TANK WHERE A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES WERE COLLECTING RAINWATER.
AND THE WAY THEY DESIGNED IT TO WHERE THEY MATCHED IT WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT, LIKE THE RESTAURANT, I THINK THERE WAS A, AN ITALIAN, UH, RESTAURANT THERE, OR A LITTLE PUB.
SO THEIR BIG WATER TANK WAS DESIGNED AS LIKE A LARGE KIND OF, UH, WHISKEY KIND OF BOTTLE.
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OR LIKE A BIG BEER.AND SO IT LOOKED PRETTY NEAT AND HOW THEY, THEY INCORPORATED ALL OF THAT TOGETHER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT ALSO COLLECTED RAINWATER.
I KNOW THAT'S, UH, ANOTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UH, LOOKING AT IDEAS LIKE THAT.
SO OVERALL, OVERALL, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEAT.
I REALLY ENJOYED IT A LOT AND, AND, AND, UH, HAD A GOOD TIME OUT THERE TO, TO LOOK AT THAT.
WE DIDN'T WANTED TO TAKE MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
I WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT TOURING THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND ALSO, IF I CAN JUST NAME LIKE THREE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WERE REALLY GREAT.
UM, ONE IS THERE ARE 15,000 TREES THAT WERE PLAYING FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
YOU CAN GO FROM THE WELCOME CENTER ALL THE WAY TO DELL'S CHILDREN ALMOST COMPLETELY UNDER A CANOPY.
UM, AND SO I ASKED THEM, HOW DID YOU DO THAT WITH THE ROOTS? AND THEY USE WHAT THEY CALLED ROOT BARRIERS.
SO WHEN YOU PLANT THE TREE, IT FORCES THE ROOTS TO GROW DOWN.
UM, AND, AND THEN THEY TOLD US IF THE ROOTS ARE COMING UP, IT'S BECAUSE THEY WANT WATER.
AND SO, BUT RARELY WILL IT BREAK THROUGH THE, THE BARRIERS.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT FOR KYLE TO KNOW, FOR, FOR ANY FUTURE USE.
UM, ALSO I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THE RAIN HARVESTING, UH, WHICH BY THE WAY, ALL THOSE BARRELS ARE, UM, APPROVED BY THE DEVELOPER, SO THEY DON'T JUST HAVE ANY KIND OF BARRELS.
UM, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THEM LAST MEETING.
I THINK ZUNIGA BROUGHT THAT UP AND THE CANOPIES.
UM, AND FINALLY MY FAVORITE FACT WAS THAT THEY HAVE A HOTEL THAT WENT IN THERE, AND THAT HOTEL, THEY WAITED FOR 10 YEARS TO GET THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD LESSON FOR KYLE TO KIND OF LIKE, LOOK AND SAY, OKAY, WE DON'T, IT'S OKAY TO WAIT.
IT'S OKAY TO LIKE, MAKE SURE WHAT WE WANT IS WHAT WE GET.
AND SO, AND FOR THEM, THAT HOTEL IS MAGNIFICENT.
THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTARY? AWESOME.
[6.
Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager
- Wall That Heals
- Easter Egg-stravaganza
- Seed Swap Event
- Kyle Public Library Programs
- Overdrive is changing to Libby
- Comprehensive Master Plan Update
- Employee Survey
- TIRZ No. 2 Meeting
- Proposition F Special Meeting
- Budget Calendar
- Team Kyle Update
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, UPDATE ON VARIOUS CAPITAL.
ALRIGHT, CITY MANAGERS SUPPORT, MR. HENDRICKS.
UH, JERRY HENDRICKS FOR THE RECORD, INTERIM CITY MANAGER.
FIRST UP ON MY REPORT TONIGHT IS OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, MARIANNA ESPINOZA, MAYOR, MAYOR COUNCIL, MARIANA ESP, ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
JUST A REMINDER THAT THE CITY OF KYLE WILL BE HOSTING THE VIETNAM ALL THE HEALS ON MAY 4TH THROUGH THE SEVENTH.
AND NEXT WEEK IS THE DEADLINE TO NOMINATE, UH, A VETERAN IN HONOR, UM, SOMEONE A LOVED ONE, OR JUST ANY VETERANS THAT WANNA BE HONORED THAT HAVE NOW SINCE PASSED AWAY.
UM, AND YOU DO THAT ON THE WEBSITE BY UPLOADING THEIR PHOTO, PHOTO AND THEN OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE THERE.
SO THE DEADLINE FOR THAT IS NEXT WEDNESDAY.
AND THEN, JUST A REMINDER, ON APRIL 1ST, WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA AT GREG CLARK PARK.
AND THE EASTER EGG HUNTS ARE FOR AGES 18 MONTHS, ALL THE WAY UP TO 12 YEARS.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNTS THROUGHOUT THE TIME, BETWEEN 10 30 AND ONE.
AND, UM, THERE'S ALSO A HUNT FOR ADA.
NEXT UP IS OUR DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES, COLLEEN TIERNEY.
COLLEEN TIERNEY, DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.
FOR THE RECORD, UM, WE HAVE OUR SEED SWAP NE THIS COMING SATURDAY.
UM, FAMILIES ARE WELCOME, ESPECIALLY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CRAFTS, UH, FOR ADULTS AND KIDS, AS WELL AS SEEDS THAT YOU CAN SWAP OR JUST TAKE AND, UH, SOME MASTER GARDENERS, UM, GIVING SOME INSTRUCTIONAL, UH, TIPS ON GARDENING AS WELL.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A LEGO BUILDING COMPETITION COMING UP ON THURSDAY, APRIL 6TH.
IT'S SPONSORED BY THE, UH, KYLE BUTTA KIWANIS CLUB.
AND, UM, ALSO THE CENTER FOR AUTISM RELATED DISORDERS WILL BE THERE AS WELL.
THEY'RE SUPPORTING IT AND SPONSORING IT AS WELL.
UM, THE CONTEST IS FOR AGES EIGHT TO 18.
UH, OTHER AGE, AGE CHILDREN ARE WELCOME, BUT THE SPECIFIC COMPETITION IS FOR THAT AGE RANGE.
UM, THERE WILL BE PRIZES FOR ALL THE AGE CATEGORIES, AND THE DOORS OPEN AT THREE 30 AND THE COMPETITION BEGINS AT FOUR.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE ON FRIDAY, MARCH 31ST, WE HAVE OUR SENIOR MOVIE NIGHT IS ACTUALLY OPENING UP TO ALL AGES, WHICH IS, AND THEY'RE FEATURING, UM, THE MOVIE MULAN IN HONOR OF, UM, THE LAST DAY OF INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY.
AND, UM, OH, I FORGOT TO MENTION THE THEME OF THE LEGO EVENT IS DINOSAURS THIS YEAR.
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WILL ATKINSON, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.UH, REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN UPDATE, UH, WE HAVE, UM, CLOSING OUT TONIGHT.
WE HAVE OUR INTERACTIVE ONLINE MAPPING TOOL THAT THE CITIZENS CAN COME AND CHECK OUT AND INPUT THEIR INPUT ON IT.
UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UH, AS OF A DAY OR TWO AGO ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 271 ONLINE MAP RESPONSES IN ADDITION TO ALL THE STUFF WE'VE HAD IN-HOUSE.
AND THEN, UM, P AND Z WILL BE HOSTING A WORKSHOP ALONG WITH ITEM, WITH THEIR NORMALLY SCHEDULED MEETING ON THE 28TH, UH, WITH ITY AS WELL RELATED TO, UH, BUILDING TYPOLOGIES AND, UM, PLACEMAKING RELATED ITEMS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WELL, NEXT UP IS OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR, SANDRA DURON.
UH, JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW, THE EMPLOYEE SURVEYS COMING UP PRETTY SOON ON APRIL THE THIRD.
UH, WE DID OUR PILOT TESTING ON MARCH 6TH AND L LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE READY BEFORE THE LAUNCH.
AND, UH, WE ARE DOING A LONG SURVEY, WHICH IS ABOUT 60 QUESTIONS, AND IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 15 TO 20 MINUTES TO ANSWER.
AND THEN WE'RE HOPING TO DO A SHORT SURVEY AROUND SIX MONTHS TO FOLLOW UP ON ANY OF THE ACTION PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED BY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND CITY MANAGER, UH, ADDRESSING ANY OF THE AREAS OF CONCERN OR ANY OF THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE NUMBERS, UH, HIGHER IN THE PERCENTAGES.
I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUE IS IT POSSIBLE, UM, THAT IN ADDITION TO THE EMPLOYEES, THAT WE COULD GIVE A SURVEY TO, UH, THE COMMITTEES AND BOARDS JUST TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM AND TO SEE HOW, UH, THEY LIKE THEIR ROLES OR HOW WE CAN IMPROVE, OR JUST HOW MUCH THEY LOVE IT? WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? IT, IT IS POSSIBLE TO CUSTOMIZE A SURVEY, UM, THAT GEARS TOWARDS THAT.
WE WILL JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH COUNSEL ON WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE, UH, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MEASURE UP AND BE VALID AND GO THROUGH THE METHODOLOGY THAT THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED IN A PROPER WAY TO GET THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
IS THAT LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BRING BACK ON AN AGENDA? I DON'T, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHAT COUNCIL THINKS.
UH, BEFORE THAT, I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
MAYBE WE, WE CAN BRING IT UP AS AN ITEM TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT DOING A SURVEY FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
NOW WE DO PAY A FEE OF, YOU KNOW, $3 AND ABOUT 12 CENTS PER EMPLOYEE PER MONTH.
SO THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COST OF, UH, WHOEVER ONE ADD TO THE SURVEY.
SO BE ALL THE MEMBERS OF COMMISSION, LIKE A ONE TIME.
CAN WE ASK THEM TO, CAN WE JUST DO A ONE TIME SURVEY AND HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST? IT'S, IT'S AN ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION.
I'M BRINGING SOMETHING FOR DISCUSSION.
YEAH, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
COUNSEL, NEXT UP IS ME, JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER.
FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU OF OUR TOURS TWO BOARD MEETING THIS THURSDAY.
SORRY ABOUT DOUBLING UP ON MEETINGS ON YOU THIS WEEK, BUT THIS IS A IMPORTANT MEETING WHERE WE'RE GONNA KICK OFF SOME ADDITIONAL WORK TO BE DONE IN OUR, IN OUR TOURS TOO.
AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE.
IF YOU CAN, NEXT UP IS, I WANNA REMIND YOU OF OUR, OUR SPECIAL MEETING FOR PROPOSITION F.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ON SATURDAY, APRIL 1ST AT 10:00 AM HERE AT CITY HALL.
AND, UM, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A BREAKFAST BEFORE THAT.
WE'RE, UM, WE, UM, GONNA GET OUR HEADS IN THE RIGHT PLACE BEFORE WE GO INTO THIS MEETING AND THEN, AND THEN JUMP INTO THE MEETING LATER ON AT 10 O'CLOCK.
SO LOOK FOR MORE ON THAT AS WE GET CLOSER TO APRIL 1ST.
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S GONNA MOVE THIS SLIDE, ME OR, SO I'D ALSO LIKE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR, OUR BUDGET CALENDAR.
WE HAD SENT OUT, UM, UH, REMINDER THAT OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION NUMBER ONE, INITIALLY IT WAS GOING TO BE SATURDAY, MAY 13TH, BUT THAT, UH, FALLS ON MOTHER'S DAY.
SO WE MOVED IT UP TO MAY 6TH, AND NOW WE'RE HEARING THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS MIGHT NOT BE AVAILABLE.
SO I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP FOR A DISCUSSION.
YOU, I'LL CHECK YOUR CALENDARS.
WE COULD MOVE IT UP ANOTHER WEEK.
WE COULD DO IT ON A WEEKNIGHT.
UM, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS MEETING IS AVAILABLE TO EACH OF YOU.
SORRY, MAY I ADD A WORD? SO I KNOW I MENTIONED I WAS GOING TO GO OUT
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OF TOWN FOR MOTHER'S DAY.I'M NO LONGER GOING OUT OF TOWN.
SO
IF, IF, IF WE DON'T MIND MOVING IT BACK TO THAT DATE, CUZ I WILL ACTUALLY BE OUTTA STATE THE WEEK OF THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY AS STARTING THAT WEDNESDAY, AND I WON'T BE BACK TILL THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY.
SO IF THE 13TH WOULD WORK FOR, UM, THAT SATURDAY WITH JUST THE, UH, THE FIRST SESSION I'D BE AVAILABLE THERE.
I'M MORE OF A FAN OF 8:00 AM PERSONALLY, I, I LIKE GIVING UP THE LITTLE LEAST AMOUNT OF MY SATURDAY AS POSSIBLE.
I SECOND THAT
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA COME IN, I'M WITH, UH, MAYOR MITCHELL THAT WE COME IN EARLIER.
WE'LL MOVE IT BACK TO, UH, THE 13TH AND WE'LL START AT 8:00 AM YES SIR.
ALL THE WORK SESSIONS AT EIGHT OR JUST THIS ONE? THE SATURDAY ONES? YES.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE HERE, BUT WE HAVE THREE.
WE HAVE DAISY ZALES, WHO'S A NEW POLICE, POLICE RECORDS CLERK.
WE HAVE IAN MCGUIRE, WHO'S A BUILDING MAINTENANCE SPECIALIST WHO WILL BE WORKING WITH OUR FACILITIES CREWS TO HELP US KEEP UP WITH OUR, OUR BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND, AND MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S WORKING RIGHT.
AND THEN, THEN RENEE DE MOSS, WHO'S A POLICE CADET.
SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING POSTED THAT ARE IN THE WORKS, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE TO YOU AS WE GET THEM FILLED.
AND LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO, UH, ANNOUNCE, UH, INTERNAL PROMOTION.
CONGRATULATIONS TO CALISSA GUERRERO ON BEING PROMOTED TO UTILITY BILLING SUPERVISOR.
THIS IS A VERY EXCITING POSITION FOR US.
WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES IN OUR UTILITY BILLING AREA AND, AND THE HOURS THAT THEY'RE OPEN AND THE WAY THEY, THEY WORK WITH EACH OTHER.
AND, UH, ALL THE INDICATIONS THAT I HAVE IS, THAT'S BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS.
CLARISSA IS THE PERFECT PERSON TO CONTINUE BRINGING THAT WORK GROUP FORWARD.
AND, UH, SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR 20 YEARS, SO WE PROBABLY, WOW, WE PROBABLY MET HER BEFORE.
SHE'S OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEE OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
SHE'S BEEN THE LEAD UTILITY BILLING, BILLING CLERK AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE SUCCESS FOR THAT WORK GROUP.
AND LETS WANT TO CONGRATULATE HER PUBLICLY FOR HER JOB.
WELL DONE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GREAT THINGS FOR HER.
AND UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
[7. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
UH, C I P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION MAYOR COUNSEL LEE, I'M BOARD CITY ENGINEER PARK.I'LL JUST GO OVER WHAT'S COMPLETED.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IS, THEY ARE MAKING PROGRESS.
THEY'VE, UH, INSTALLED THE MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, AND PLUMBING IN THE PAVILION.
RESTROOMS, UH, THEY'VE INSTALLED THE PLUMBING AT THE KIDS AREA AND REFLECTING POOL.
UH, THE CEILING PAVILION IS UP RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE, UH, WAITING ON A, SOME MOCK-UPS TO MAKE SOME TRANSITIONS BETWEEN THOSE DIFFERENT ROOF STRUCTURES.
UH, THE WATER FEATURE IN FRONT PAVILION HAS BEEN POURED.
UH, THEY PLACED THE CONCRETE IN THE KIDS AREA AND, UH, COMPLETED THE CONCRETE MOUNDS IN THE PLAYGROUND.
AND THEY PAINTED THE SWING STRUCTURE ON THE TOP.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S STILL ONGOING.
SO, UH, THEY STILL HAVE A LITTLE WAYS TO GO, BUT, UH, THEY'RE PROJECTING APRIL OF 2023 TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.
PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, UH, PRETTY CLOSE TO BEING 83% COMPLETE.
UH, SOME OF THE CANOPIES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.
UH, THEY POURED TWO OF THE SIX SEAT WALLS AT THE MAIN ENTRY.
THE OVERHEAD LIGHTS ARE BEING INSTALLED IN THE LOCKER ROOMS. UH, THEY'VE COMPLETED PIERCE FOR THE PERIMETER WALL.
UH, THEY'RE INSTALLING CABINETS AT LEVEL ONE AND SUBSTANTIAL.
COMPLETE TO DATE IS, UH, MAY, 2023.
WASTEWATER TREATMENT PA EXPANSION PROJECT, UH, BASED ON THE PAY ESTIMATES, WE'RE ABOUT 99% COMPLETE.
UH, THEY'RE STILL DOING SOME OF THE TRAINING ON THE DEWATERING FACILITY, UH, CONTRACTOR STILL WORKING ON THE PENCIL LIST ITEMS. UH, JUST TO REMIND COUNSEL, THERE IS A PUBLIC MEETING ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT PERMIT AMENDMENT APPLICATION.
THIS IS GONNA BE AT 7:00 PM ON MARCH THE 30TH AT THE, UH, CO PUBLIC LIBRARY.
THIS WAS REQUESTED BY REPRESENTATIVE SW ZEER AND SENATOR ZINI.
UH, T C E Q WILL ALSO BE VISITING OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT SAME DAY.
SOUTHSIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 93% COMPLETE.
UH, THEY'RE STILL INSTALLING A LITTLE BIT OF RIP WRAP IN THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UH, WE'RE STILL GONNA TRY TO COMPLETE THAT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
DOWNTOWN RELOCATION, THIS ONE'S GOING AS SLOW AS IT CAN BE.
UH, WE CAN'T SEEM TO SPEED 'EM UP.
UM, RELOCATION WORK IS UNDERWAY.
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SPLICING.UH, THEY SAID IT WOULD BE ABOUT THREE WEEKS BEFORE TO GET THEY GET TO THAT, AND THEN IT'LL TAKE 'EM ABOUT TWO WEEKS.
WE HOPE FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THAT.
ONCE THAT'S DONE, THEY, WE START TAKING THE LINES OFF THE POLES AND THEN P C P C CAN JUMP IN THERE AND START TAKING THE POLES DOWN.
THEY'VE BEEN BEHIND WITH ALL THE DEBRIS THAT THEY'VE HAD TO PICK UP WITH ALL THE TREE LIMBS.
SO THEY, UH, PROMISED ME THEY WOULD TRY TO GET THE CREW THERE TO WRAP THE PROJECT UP.
UH, ONCE THE WEATHER'S, UH, CLEAR AND, AND THE WEATHER'S DRIED OUT, THE SOILS OUT THERE, THEY'RE GONNA DROP IN THERE AND DO THE DRAINAGE WORK AND DO THE PAVING.
A LITTLE BIT OF PAVING THAT THEY NEED TO ADD ON THERE.
THEY SAY THAT'LL TAKE THEM ABOUT TWO WEEKS.
I'M HOPING THEY GET IN THERE FAIRLY SOON AND WRAP IT UP.
INDIAN PAINTBRUSH LIFT STATION.
UH, CRANE FOUNDATION'S BEEN POURED.
ODOR CONTROL TANK HAS BEEN INSTALLED.
THEY'RE INSTALLING THE PUMPS AND GUARDRAILS.
ODOR CONTROL, PIPING CONTROL PANEL PADS ARE UNDERWAY.
THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, CHANCE I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE CROSSWINDS WATER STORAGE.
UH, WE ARE HAVING 150,000 GALLON GROUND STORAGE INSTALL THERE IN ADDITION TO 150,000 GALLON ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THERE.
UH, TWO MORE OF THE SHAFTS HAVE BEEN DELIVERED.
ALL THREE SECTIONS HAVE BEEN, UH, FITTED TOGETHER.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO WRAP THIS PROJECT UP.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE COBB FINLAY AND ASSOCIATES CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE WATER LEAF PROJECT.
WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS AN EXISTING 21 INCH LINE IN THE COOL SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT.
THAT WAS, WE PAID FOR THAT UPSIZING SO THAT WE COULD HANDLE ALL THE, UH, ADDITIONAL FLOWS THAT WERE GONNA COME FROM THE WATERSTONE PROJECT.
RIGHT NOW, TODAY, THAT 21 INCH TIES INTO A 10 INCH LINE ON ONE 50.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO UPSIZE THAT LINE AND THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT WILL WRAP UP THAT DESIGN AND ALSO TAKE US TO CUT PROJECT MANAGEMENT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
THIS IS, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
THIS IS FOR AWARDING A CONTRACT TO CEDAR HILLS CONSTRUCTION LLC.
I DO WANT TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE MADE AN ERROR ON THE, UH, AGENDA ITEM.
IT'S POSTED AS CONS, CEDAR HILLS CONSTRUCTION, INC.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GETS CHANGED TO CEDAR HILLS CONSTRUCTION LLC.
UH, THIS IS PHASE TWO OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT, WHEN WE FIRST ESTIMATED IT, UH, TO COMPLETE THIS LINE, IT WAS ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
SO AT THAT POINT, WE DECIDED TO PHASE THE PROJECT IN.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THESE PHASES.
UH, THAT'S HOW WE'RE PHASING THE PROJECT.
SO WE STARTED AT THE, THE DOWNSTREAM END.
THAT'S BEEN DONE AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO PHASE TWO.
AND, UH, BUT LATER WE PLAN TO START WORKING ON PHASE THREE.
I'LL LET VICTORIA VARGAS HANDLE THIS PREDICTOR SIDE.
THIS IS, UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, 11.
VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THERE IS AN ITEM ON CONSENT FOR THE, UM, MEMORANDUM UNDERSTANDING FOR THE TEACHER EXTERNSHIP PROGRAM.
IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS, RURAL, RURAL CAPITAL AREA, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND, UM, OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS HELPING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, FIND, UM, A PAIR TEACHERS FOR SUMMER EXTERNSHIPS.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN INTERNSHIP, BUT FOR TEACHERS OVER THE SUMMER.
UM, AND SO WHAT THEY'RE GAINING IS REAL WORLD KNOWLEDGE, WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL INDUSTRY AND BRINGING BACK THAT BACK TO THE CLASSROOM.
SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL ASK US, UM, WILL LET US KNOW WHAT INDUSTRIES THEY'RE LOOKING TO PAIR TEACHERS WITH, AND THEN WE GO OUT AND TRY TO FIND THEM.
UM, PAST PARTICIPANTS HAVE BEEN THE NEW WORLD BAKERY, THE PI COMPANY.
I EVEN HOSTED A, AN EXTERNSHIP A FEW YEARS BACK.
AND THEN, UH, THE PHOTO HERE IS CG AND S DESIGN COMPANY.
UM, SO THERE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S, UM, NO MONETARY, UM, CONTRIBUTION.
IT'S JUST IN-KIND SERVICES OF MY TIME IN LAUREN'S TIME, HELPING PAIR THE TEACHERS WITH, UM, WITH THE EDUCATORS.
I'LL LET THE CHIEF TAKE THIS ONE OVER.
JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
ITEMS 12 AND 13 RELATE TO THE SAME, SAME TOPIC.
WE ARE ASKING YOUR PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR A RENEWAL OF A TWO YEAR VICTIMS OF CRIME LIAISON GRANT FROM THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THAT IF AWARDED THEIR GRANT WILL PROVIDE $49,500 FOR EACH OF THE TWO YEARS.
THIS IS TO PROVIDE CONTINUED FUNDING FOR OUR CRIME VICTIM ADVOCATE STAFF THAT IS CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THAT IS MS. HBE BICKFORD, AS YOU WILL SEE HEARD IN THE BACK, UH, SECOND WITH THAT.
ITEM 13 IS A RESOLUTION THAT IS REQUIRED WITH THE APPLICATION OF THE GRANT.
AND JUST TO PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE, UH, THEY SERVED OVER 700 VICTIMS ENCOUNTER YEAR 2022.
SO THEY DO A GREAT, GREAT, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND IF AWARDED, WE WOULD CERTAINLY COME BACK AND NOTIFY YOU OF THE, UH,
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THE AWARD AND ASK FOR ACCEPTANCE.THANK YOU MARION COUNSEL, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS? YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR LEON OR STAFF? THAT'S WHERE PARLEY.
UM, SO I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM NUMBER NINE.
AS I WAS REVIEWING THE, UM, THE BACKUP MATERIAL.
I SEE THAT THEY WERE SUGGESTING FOR, UM, US TO GO WITH, UM, OPTION NUMBER THREE, WHICH WILL BE TO CONSTRUCT A PARALLEL.
UM, INSTEAD OF LIKE DIGGING OUT THE, GIMME ONE SECOND.
IF MY ITEM OPEN, OH, HERE WE GO.
SO IT WAS GIVEN ME THREE OPTIONS OF WHAT THEY WERE SUGGESTING TO DO IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE FLOW OR TO INCREASE THE DIAMETER, I GUESS, OF THE PIPES.
AND THEY WERE, FOR WHAT I WAS READING, IT SEEMS THAT WE WENT WITH A OPTION THAT WAS THE LEAST EXPENSIVE THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTING A PIPE NEXT TO THE ONE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
IS THAT WHAT WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING AT THIS POINT IN TIME? THERE ISN'T A LINE RIGHT THERE ON THE, DOWN THROUGH THE CREEK AREA.
SO IT'LL BE A NEW BRAND NEW LINE THROUGH THAT CREEK AREA.
THEY'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT THE SECTION THAT'S IN ONE 50 AND THE CONSULTANT IS HERE IF YOU WANT, UH, IF I CAN ASK HIM TO COME UP AND MAYBE EXPLAIN MORE IN BETTER DETAIL.
CUZ I, WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW IS IF IT WAS GONNA BE ANY SORT OF DIG IN AND I HAD MY NOTES IN HERE.
YES, THERE WILL BE SOME EXCAVATION NOW WHEN WE CROSS ONE 50, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BORE, THAT'S A TEXT DOT ROAD, SO WE'LL HAVE TO BORE THAT.
BUT AS WE GO FURTHER DOWNSTREAM FROM THAT, UH, ONE 50, WE DO HAVE TO EXCAVATE AND NEAR THAT DITCH.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A NEW LINE.
I THOUGHT WE WERE UPSIZING THE CURRENT ONE.
WE NEED TO UPSIZE IT TO A PROBABLY A 21 OR 24 INCH.
SO THE ONE THAT WE ARE GONNA BE UPSIZING, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE BUILDING PARALLEL TO THE ONE WE HAVE CUZ THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE OPTION THREE THAT THEY WERE RECOMMENDING IS WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO.
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE 10 INCH LINE IS, GOES THROUGH SOME OF THE STREETS, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION AND I REALLY DIDN'T, WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT.
I'D RATHER GO AHEAD AND PUT A NEW LINE THROUGH THE CREEK AND GO THAT ROUTE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE OLD ONE? IS IT JUST GONNA STAY THERE? IT WOULD BE PROBABLY, IT, IT COULD REMAIN IN USEFUL, BUT WE COULD ALSO CLOSE IT OFF TOO.
JUST DEPENDS ON HOW WE DESIGN IT.
YEAH, I, WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW IS IF CUZ IT SAID THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL, UM, ACQUISITION OF, UH, RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS GONNA BE ADDED TO THE PRICE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THERE.
THIS IS JUST FOR THE DESIGN FEE.
SO THAT COULD BE ADDITIONAL COST.
THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DRAINED EASEMENT.
PARDON? THIS IS JUST THE DESIGN? YES.
AND THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL THAT, THAT'S A DRAINED EASEMENT, SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO CONVERT IT TO A WASTEWATER EASEMENT.
NOT A QUESTION TOO, CUSTOMERS GO.
YEAH, LEON, I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS TOO, UM, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED MAP FOR THE INTERCEPTOR.
SO THE QUESTION IS ON GINA DRIVE, YOU SAID YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE, HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STREET, SO YOU WILL BORE THERE, THERE WILL BE NO STREET PAVEMENT REQUIRED FOR, FOR THE NEW LINE.
THE PLAN IS TO TAKE THE LINE THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE DITCH.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD TRY TO TAKE THAT LINE.
I'D RATHER, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THROUGH THE STREETS.
THAT'S VERY DISRUPTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE, I LIVE ON CLOSE TO THAT STREET.
WE WILL MAKE SURE WE WON'T GO THAT ROUTE.
SO WHAT, SO THEN YOU'RE ALSO GOING BEHIND A LOT OF THESE HOUSES, IF THEY'RE PLATTED THERE, ARE THOSE EASEMENTS FOR THE HOUSES OR ARE YOU GONNA BE ON THE STREET? OR IS THAT OPEN SPACE WHERE THE NEW LINE IS GOING? BECAUSE YOU'RE ALSO CROSSING THROUGH WATER LEAF BOULEVARD.
THAT ONE IT SAYS YOU WILL MAKE REPAIRS ON.
SO WILL THERE BE SECTIONS THAT ARE IN THE OPEN SPACE? NOT NOT IN THE BACK, UH, WALKWAYS, UH, OF FENCE LINES? OR ARE, ARE WE GETTING CLOSE TO FENCE LINES HERE IN, IN, IN WATER LEAF? THE DESIGN HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED, SO I REALLY CAN'T TELL YOU HOW CLOSE WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING THOSE FENCE LINES.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AS WE GO THROUGH THE 30 30, THE 60, 9,000, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT THOSE ISSUES.
AND THERE MAY BE STREET CUTS AND WE'LL USUALLY EXCAVATE AND, AND REPLACE THE STREET.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S, WE'RE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT WATER LEAVE STREET CUT BECAUSE THAT IS, THAT IS MENTIONED HERE.
THAT WOULD BE THE, THE ONE STREET CUT THAT YOU'RE WOULD BE DOING.
I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE CONSULTANTS, SEE IF THAT'S TRUE.
WHO ELSE IS CONNECTING TO THIS WASTEWATER LINE? UM, YOU HAVE,
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UM, PROPOSED BY OTHERS.THE 48 INCH GRAVITY SANITARY SEWER.
IS THAT FOR FUTURE CONNECTIONS? THERE'S A SECTION OF 30 INCH LINE THAT, UH, WAS THE, THE ORIGINAL LINE THAT FEEDS THE PLANT GOES TO THE PLANT.
THAT LINE IS BEING REDESIGNED RIGHT NOW.
IT, IT'S GOING TO BE A 48 INCH PIPE.
AND SO THAT, UH, WE HAVE TO COORDINATE BETWEEN THAT CONSULTANT AND, UH, COBB FINLEY AS WE MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
AND I GUESS JUST TO GET BACK, I DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK I WAS CLEAR.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY SAID, IS THE OLD LINE GOING TO BE REMOVED AND THEN THE NEW LINE IN THERE? UM, WE WON'T BE TAKING THE OLD LINE OUT.
IF ANYTHING, WE'LL PLUG IT UP.
IF WE DON'T NEED IT, WE'LL JUST PLUG IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAD ABOUT THIS ONE.
I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER 10.
SO IF THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS THE LOWEST BID AND THEN THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS TWO X THIS BID.
UM, SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU CHOSE THIS ONE, BUT I I'M NOT, UM, I GUESS IS THIS FOR JUST THE DESIGN OR IS THIS TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION? THIS IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, YES SIR.
NOW ARE BOTH OF THESE IN BUDGET NUMBER NINE AND 10 OR ARE THESE OUT OF, ARE THESE OUT OF, UH, CIPS OR ARE THESE OUTTA WASTEWATER FEES? WHAT, WHAT PAYS FOR BOTH NINE AND 10? NUMBER NINE IS PAID THROUGH THE CIP P I'M SURE PROVISION WILL CORRECT ME, BUT NU NUMBER NINE IS THE CIP P PROJECT THAT WAS SCHEDULED.
NUMBER 10 IS EVERY YEAR WE SET ASIDE $500,000 FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND SO WE TRY TO BUDGET, SET A BUDGET TO WHERE WE CAN DO SO MUCH WITH THAT 500,000.
SO WE PUSH IT TO THE MAX TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LIMITED TO.
I DO, UH, LET ONE OF THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT IN MY PROPOSED BUDGET CHANGES TO THE CIP P PROGRAM, UH, AND TO THE BUDGET, I'M ASKING THAT WE INCREASE THAT AMOUNT TO MILLION DOLLARS.
WE'RE NOT GETTING VERY FAR WITH $500,000.
AND, AND MOST OF THE, YOUR, YOUR INFLOW AND INFILTRATION IN THE CITY IS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
WE HAVE A LOT OF OLD CLAY LINES.
UH, THEY'RE CRACKED, THEY'RE BROKEN.
WE HAVE A LOT OF IN INFLOW COMING IN FROM THOSE LINES.
AND IT WAS ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED IN A REPORT WE DID BACK IN 2015.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WANNA FOCUS MORE ON THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO IMPROVE THOSE LINES THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AREA WITH, UH, WITH THESE MONIES THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM COUNCIL.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 10 TOO? AND I'M GLAD COUNCIL MEMBER SUNGA BROUGHT THIS UP CUZ THAT WAS MY ONE CONCERN IS LIKE, WE HAVE ONE THAT IS, WE PICKED THE ONE THAT WAS THE 4 84, BUT WE HAD ONE THAT IS TWICE AS MUCH.
AND EVEN HAVING A 10% CONTINGENCY, IT JUST MAKES ME WORRY THAT, UM, AND, AND I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT.
IT IS JUST LIKE, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TWO COMPANIES CAN HAVE SUCH A DIFFERENT AMOUNT AND, AND PRICE AND HOW MANY CHANGE ORDERS IS THAT GOING TO COME BACK WITH? IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO SEE ONE CONTRACTOR BID WAY OVER WHAT WE'VE ESTIMATED.
WE ESTIMATED ABOUT, I'M GOING MEMORY FIVE, SIX, 700,000 ON THIS PROJECT.
THAT WAS OUR INITIAL ESTIMATE.
AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE SECOND BID OR THEY WEREN'T THAT FAR OFF EITHER.
BUT IN THIS CASE WE, WE WERE REALLY FELT GOOD BECAUSE WE GOT I THINK, EIGHT BIDS ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH WE THOUGHT WE WOULD JUST GET A TWO OR THREE, BUT WE GOT EIGHT BIDS, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD FOR US TO GET THAT MANY BIDS ON THIS PROJECT.
THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR DID THE FIRST PHASE, SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA RUN INTO, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ENCOUNTER.
WE ALSO DID A BETTER JOB THIS TIME OF, UH, ACTUALLY WALKING DOWN THE STREET.
ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE OLD PART OF TOWN IS SOMETIMES THE SERVICES ARE NOT WHERE YOU THINK THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND WE FIND THEM, UH, UNDER HOUSES, UH, ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY WHERE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE.
WE FOUND, UH, HOUSES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE, SO WE FIND MANY THINGS IN THE FIELD THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE, BUT IN THIS CASE, OUR, OUR PROJECT MANAGER WALKED ASIDE PUBLIC WORKS WAS WITH THEM.
THEY IDENTIFIED ALL THE SERVICES AS, AS BEST AS THEY COULD WITH WHAT THEY COULD FIND.
SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A LOT OF CHANGEOVERS ON THIS PROJECT.
NOW WILL IT, CAN IT HAPPEN? YES, IT CAN.
WE CAN RUN INTO SOME SURPRISES OUT THERE, UH, UTILITIES THAT WERE NOT IDENTIFIED OR, UH, SOME OF THE HARD ROCK THAT WE ENCOUNTERED THE VERY FIRST TIME WE DID THIS PROJECT, SOMETIMES THOSE OUTCROPPINGS OF HARD ROCK POP UP AND, AND WE TOOK, WE TOOK BORINGS AGAIN THIS TIME WE TOOK BORINGS.
BUT UH, ALEX SAID, SURPRISES HAPPEN OUT THERE.
IT'S MOSTLY EXCAVATION, RIGHT, LEON? THAT'S WHAT EXCAVATION AND SOME STREET REPAIRS.
AND SO A LOT OF THINGS COULD BE JUST, THEY CHANGED AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE THINK THEIR, WHAT USED TO BE A PIPE IS NOW NO LONGER A PIPE OR IS JUST CONNECT A LOT OF CONNECTING THE DOTS BACK IN THE DAY.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WATER, AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE PRIOR, YOU PROBABLY HAD, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS DOING THE SAME THING, CONNECTING
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HOSES TO CONNECT ANOTHER HOSE TO CONNECT THAT.YOU GOTTA KIND OF LOOK AT IT IN THAT MINDSET.
AND AS NOW AS WE'RE BUILDING OUR CITY UP AND WE'RE USING MORE OF THOSE RESOURCES, WE'RE RUNNING INTO THESE PROBLEMS, UH, OF OLDER PIPES THAT ARE CONNECTED THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK IT'S FLOWING IN, BUT IT'S CAPPED OFF MAYBE A PROPERTY OWNER IT OFF YEARS AGO.
SO I, I GUESS WE GOTTA KIND OF LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT.
UH, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT, UH, MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES HAVE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE KNOW A LOT OF THESE PRICES ARE GOING UP AS FAR AS, UH, MAINTENANCE AND AS FAR AS THE PRODUCT ITSELF, THE INVENTORY.
SO, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I GUESS RAISES THE CONCERN WHY ONE PRICE IS HIGHER THAN THE OTHER AND THEN YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME TYPE OF WORK, BUT MAYBE THERE'S, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME KIND OF REASONING BEHIND THAT AS FAR AS MAYBE THE MATERIAL THAT MIGHT BE USED OR THE TYPE OF EXCAVATING OR ENGINEERING.
SO IT, IT COULD BE JUST MY GUESS ON THAT END.
SO LEON, IS THAT GONNA BE SUFFICIENT, THE 24 INCH LINE FOR WATERSTONE AND COOL SPRINGS, UH, LIKE AS THEY GROW AND MORE HOUSES GO IN THERE? IS THAT OR ARE WE GONNA BE LOOKING AT 36 INCH LATER DOWN THE ROAD? UH, JUST HOW, HOW MUCH FUTURE PLANNING IS THIS GONNA TAKE US THERE FOR OUR GROWTH? WE RAN WATER, THE WESTWATER MODELS ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AND WE LOOKED AT THE WATERSTONE DEVELOPMENT PLUS ALL THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT MIGHT BE TYING INTO THE LINE.
WE MADE SOME ASSUMPTIONS ON THE NUMBER OF UES PER ACRE THAT THEY MIGHT BE TYING INTO.
UH, SOME OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT RECENTLY, THEY'RE ON ONE 50.
WE ANTICIPATED SOME OF THOSE GOING INTO THAT PARTICULAR 21 INCH LINE, UH, THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE CHANGING THEIR ROUTE, WHICH IS GONNA HELP, UH, THEY'LL TIE IN ON ONE 50 RATHER THAN THAT, UH, 1 58.
SO THAT'S GONNA HELP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THE CAPACITY THERE THAT WE DESIGN THAT 21 INCH LINE FOR IS FOR THE, UH, WATERSTONE DEVELOPMENT AND SEVERAL AREAS AROUND THERE.
SO IT'S BEEN DESIGNED FOR THAT.
SO IF WE NEED MORE, WELL, I GUESS WE'LL JUST ADD ANOTHER LINE.
I GUESS THAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO DO BECAUSE THAT 21 BARELY FIT THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE WERE TRYING TO GET IT UP TO A 24 AND THEY WERE JUST HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING IT THROUGH THERE.
SO WE, WE SAID, OKAY, WE'LL GO WITH THE 21.
BUT WE HAD TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON WHAT WE ALLOWED TO GO IN THROUGH THAT LINE.
SO, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A REAL TIGHT FIT THERE.
AND AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANNA REALLY GO BACK THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT.
[VI. Consent Agenda]
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WANNA PULL? MOTIONS, CUSTOMER, FLORIS KA.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 14.
MOTION BY CUSTOMER FLORES KALE, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER PARLEY.
DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION MOTIONS TO APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT THROUGH 14.
[15. Approve Task Order No. 2 to LOCKWOOD, ANDREWS & NEWNAM, INC., San Marcos, Texas in the amount not to exceed $631,347.90 for engineering services and design of Windy Hill Road from IH 35 Northbound Frontage Road to Purple Martin Ave. ~ Joe Cantalupo, K Friese & Associates, City's 2022 Road Bond Program Manager]
[16. Approve Task Order No. 2 to COBB, FENDLEY & ASSOCIATES, INC., San Marcos, Texas in the amount not to exceed $2,794,679.68 for engineering services and design of the extension of Kyle Parkway from Lehman Road to Dacy Lane and the extension of Lehman Road from Bunton Creek Road to Dacy Lane. ~ Joe Cantalupo, K Friese & Associates, City's 2022 Road Bond Program Manager]
[17. Approve Task Order No. 5 to PAPE-DAWSON ENGINEERS, INC., San Antonio, Texas in the amount not to exceed $488,657.77 for engineering services and design of Center Street (On-System) from Veterans Drive to Main Street. ~ Joe Cantalupo, K Friese & Associates, City's 2022 Road Bond Program Manager]
[18. Approve Supplemental Work Authorization No. 4 to Work Authorization No. 1 to K FRIESE AND ASSOCIATES, INC., Austin, Texas, increasing the contract amount authorized to date by $1,270,130.38 for Work Authorization 1 for a total authorized contract amount not to exceed $2,736,914.20 for project management services in support of the projects in the 2022 Road Bond Program. ~ Joe Cantalupo, K Friese & Associates, City's 2022 Road Bond Program Manager]
WE'LL BRING UP AGENDA ITEMS 15 THROUGH 18.APPROVED TASK ORDER NUMBER TWO, TO LOCKWOOD ANDREWS IN NEWMAN, UH, INC.
UH, SAN MARCOS, TEXAS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $631,347 90 CENTS FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES AT WENDY HILL ROAD FROM I 35 NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD TO PURPLE MARTIN AVENUE APPROVED TASK ORDER NUMBER TWO, TO COBB, FINLEY AND ASSOCIATES SAN MARCOS.
2.74, UH, 9 4 6 7 9000068 CENTS FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES AND DESIGN WITH THE EXTENSION OF KYLE PARKWAY.
FROM LAYMAN ROAD TO DACY LANE IN THE EXTENSION OF LAYMAN ROME FROM BUNTON CREEK TO DCY LANE AND APPROVED TASK ORDER NUMBER FIVE, TO PICK DAWSON ENGINEERS INC.
UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, AND AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $488,657 AND 77 CENTS FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES AND DESIGN CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM FROM VETERANS DRIVE TO MAIN STREET AND APPROVED SUPPLEMENTAL WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER FOUR, TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER ONE TO KREEN ASSOCIATES INC.
UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS, INCREASING THE CONTRACT AMOUNT AUTHORIZED, UH, TO DATE BY ONE POINT, UH, 1,000,200, UH, $70,130 38 CENTS FOR WORK AUTHORIZATION, UH, ONE FOR A TOTAL AUTHORIZED CONTRACT, UH, AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,736,914 AND 20 CENTS FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THESE PROJECTS IN THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JOE CAN LUPO.
I WORK FOR KRES AND ASSOCIATES, AND I AM, UH, THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE, THE GE C TEAM, THE GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TEAM THAT IS SUPPORTING THE CITY IN IMPLEMENTING ITS BOND PROJECTS.
UH, I HAVE A, A FEW, UH, QUICK SLIDES.
IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
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A, A QUICK UPDATE.SO, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, THE LAST MEETING I WAS AT, WHICH WAS TWO WEEKS AGO, UH, COUNCIL APPROVED THE COLO DECEDENT CROSSING, THE CUL DECEDENT, THE OFFICE SYSTEM PORTION.
UH, YOU ALL APPROVE BB ROAD, THE WESTERN, THE BUNTON CREEK'S, BUTTON CREEK PROJECTS, UM, THIS EVENING AS, UH, THE MAYOR READ THE ITEMS, UM, WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THE DESIGN SCOPES AND FEES FOR THE ON SYSTEM OR THE TECHO PORTION OF CENTER STREET, UH, THE KYLE PARKWAY, LEHMAN ROAD EXTENSION, AND THE WENDY HILL ROAD, UM, PROJECTS.
AND JUST, UH, A QUICK NOTE, THE CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM, THE TECH STOP PORTION THAT IS, UH, FOR, UH, UH, THE COMPLETION OF THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, THE KYLE PARKWAY LEHMAN ROAD EXTENSION, THAT IS FOR P S N E.
THERE WAS ENOUGH WORK ON DONE ON THAT DURING THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT PHASE.
UM, AND THE ISSUES AS SUCH THAT WE ALL BELIEVE THAT YOU COULD GO STRAIGHT TO PS N E, UH, IT'LL MAKE THE PROJECT, UH, GO A LITTLE BIT FASTER AND YOU'LL SAVE MONEY BY NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC PHASE AND ALSO WIND HILL ROAD FOR VERY SIMILAR REASONS, UM, TO, UH, CENTER STREET WILL GO THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC PHASE, UH, THAT NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF WORK BEFORE IT CAN GO TO FULL DESIGN.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE PROJECTS WE HAVE BEFORE YOU.
THE TWO THAT ARE LEFT TO COME ARE MARKETPLACE AVENUE, AND THE OFF SYSTEM PORTION OF CENTER STREET.
UH, THOSE, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THOSE A AGREEMENTS WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, AND I CAN STOP THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT OUR WORK AUTHORIZATION NOW, OR IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS FIRST.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE THREE ROADS BEFORE HE TALKS ABOUT THE WORK AUTHORIZATION AFTER, SORRY, AFTER THESE THREE ROADS, WILL, WILL WE HAVE ANY OTHER ROADS LEFT TO APPROVE? Y YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MARKETPLACE AVENUE AND THE OFF SYSTEM PORTION OF, UH, UH, OF, UH, CENTER STREET AND, AND OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
AND THEN WHAT ELSE? IT'S THE OFF SYSTEM PORTION OF CENTER STREET AND OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
TH THOSE ARE THE REMAINING TWO.
AND, AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE THOSE BEFORE COUNCIL IF IT'S, IF IT'S YOUR WISH TO PUT 'EM ON THE AGENDA, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM DONE.
UM, AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA GIVE ANY LIKE, IDEA THAT WE'RE DOING ONE ROAD BEFORE ANOTHER.
I THINK THESE ARE ALL PRIMARILY IMPORTANT ROADS, AND I'M GENUINELY CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE ROADS WE CAN, I KNOW ONE GOES OVER TEXT DOT, AND SO I DON'T WANNA SPEND TOO MUCH BEFORE WE REALIZE IF YOU KNOW THE EXTENT OR IF WE CAN, UH, BUILD OVER OR WHATEVER.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
WELL, THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO FOR YOU, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS GET DONE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME WITHIN THE STATE OF SCHEDULES AND WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT YOU ALL HAVE ESTABLISHED.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WORK AUTHORIZATION? SURE.
I THINK THE EASIEST WAY TO EXPLAIN THIS IS THAT WE HAVE A MASTER AGREEMENT THAT LISTS ALL THE THINGS THAT WE EXPECT TO DO OVER THE COURSE OF MANAGING THE PROGRAM FOR YOU.
OVER THE COURSE OF A NUMBER OF YEARS, THE FIRST WORK AUTHORIZATION WAS IN THE AMOUNT OF 1.466 $783 AND 82 CENTS.
RIGHT? AND, AND WHAT I HAD SAID WHEN WE HAD PROPOSED THAT WORK AUTHORIZATION IS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW THE PROGRAM WAS GONNA FLOW.
WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW SLOW OR HOW QUICKLY WE COULD MOVE THINGS.
AND I USED, I BELIEVE A CORNY PHRASE THAT YOU'RE GONNA HEAR AGAIN, WHICH IS, WE LOADED FOR, FOR BEAR, BUT HOPING TO HUNT FOR SQUIRRELS, RIGHT? LIKE WE, WE, WE PUT A LITTLE BIT IN THERE TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND WE COULD MOVE AT A PACE.
SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO FINISH OUT 2023, KNOWING THAT PROJECTS EIGHT PROJECTS WE'RE GONNA GO INTO SCHEMATIC DESIGN, OR P S N E AND SOME WOULD ACTUALLY FINISH SCHEMATIC AND GO INTO P S N E AND ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD TAKE, AND THAT AMOUNT CAME TO $2,231,495 AND, AND, AND A FEW CENTS.
WHAT WE DID NEXT WAS WE DIDN'T SPEND THAT WHOLE 1.466, SO SOME
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OF THAT MONEY IS CARRYING OVER.AND SO WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS WE SPENT ABOUT $505,000 OF THE ORIGINAL 1.466.
WE HAVE ABOUT 961,000 LEFTOVER.
AND SO WHEN WE COMP, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED FOR THE YEAR, THE NET IS THE 1.27 MILLION THAT IS BEING REQUESTED TONIGHT.
SO THAT TAKES THE VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL WORK AUTHORIZATION TO $2,736,914.
BUT REMEMBER, WE'VE SPENT $505,000 ON THAT GETTING TO THIS POINT, AND WE'RE CARRYING OVER A BUNCH OF MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THE 1.27 MILLION.
AND AGAIN, WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF 2023 AND WE SEE WHERE THE PROJECTS ARE AND WHAT IT'S TAKEN, WE'RE EXPECTING THAT SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT DOESN'T GET SPENT WILL ROLL OVER INTO THE, WHAT WE THINK WE'LL NEED FOR 2024, WHICH WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DETERMINE UNTIL WE GET CLOSER TO THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND WE SEE WHAT PROGRESS WE'VE MADE WITH THE PROJECTS AS THEY GO THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC PHASE AND THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CAN LUPO? I DID.
SO DID YOUR, DID THE SCOPE OF WORK CHANGE OR WAS THIS DUE TO INFLATION, OR DID YOU HAVE MORE HIRES? CAN YOU SORT OF GUARANTEE WE'RE GONNA GET DONE SOONER? UH, I GUESS THIS IS $1.5 MILLION MORE THAT YOU'RE ASKING IN THIS WORK AUTHORIZATION.
SO THE, THE SCOPE OF WORK HASN'T CHANGED.
COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN WE STARTED, WE HAD A MASTER AGREEMENT THAT HAD A, A SORT OF A CATCHALL LIST OF EVERYTHING WE EXPECTED TO DO OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS.
SO WHAT WE AGREED TO DO FOR THE CITY HASN'T CHANGED.
WHICH CHANGED IS AS THE PROJECTS MOVED THROUGH DESIGN, WE PAY MORE ATTENTION AND PUT MORE TIME AND ATTENTION INTO CERTAIN ACTIVITIES AND OTHER ACTIVITIES DROP.
SO I WOULD PORTRAY IT MORE AS AN AS AS AN EVOLUTION, RIGHT? THINGS GET DONE, THEY GET DROPPED, OTHER THINGS NEED TO GET DONE SO THEY GET PICKED UP.
SO THE SCOPE HASN'T CHANGED AS MUCH AS IT'S JUST EVOLVED, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN.
THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THIS IS TIME AND MATERIALS, MEANING WE ONLY BUILD FOR THE TIME WE SPEND, IT'S NOT A LUMP SUM.
SO IF WE DON'T SPEND THE TIME, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, CHARGE.
AND SO WE TEND TO, UM, MAKE THE BEST ESTIMATES WE CAN.
AND HONESTLY, WE TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT CONSERVATIVE IN THE SENSE THAT IF WE HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN ESTIMATING, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR OR AN HOUR AND A QUARTER, IF WE'RE NOT SURE, WE ESTIMATE THE HOUR AND A QUARTER.
BUT WE DON'T ASK FOR SO MUCH WHERE WE TIE UP SO MUCH MONEY.
WE ASK FOR AS MUCH AS WE THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN COMPLETE THE NEXT YEAR'S WORTH OF WORK AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT IN CASE WE CAN GET AHEAD.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF, I DON'T KNOW, PICK A PROJECT, IF WE GET LUCKY AND I DON'T KNOW, AND NOTHING UNUSUAL COMES UP DURING THE SCHEMATIC PHASE, AND WE CAN ACCELERATE IT TO P S N E, WE WANT TO BE ABLE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MOVE IT, TO MOVE IT QUICKLY.
SO YOU HAVEN'T SPENT THIS MONEY, UH, WE'RE JUST INCREASING YOUR LIMIT.
AND IF WE GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND YOU STILL HAVE THE BULK OF THIS MONEY, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT YEAR? WE WILL, WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED FOR 2024 AND WE'LL JUST ROLL THE LEFTOVER MONEY TO 2024.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE ONLY SPENT, UH, IT'S A, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DID TODAY, BUT WE'VE SPENT ABOUT 500 OR SO THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND WHEN WE ASKED FOR THE 1.466 AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR TENURE WITH YOU FOLKS, UM, SO THAT $900,000 IS, IS ROLLING OVER.
SO WE ACTUALLY NEED OVER $2 MILLION, WE THINK, TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT YEAR.
BUT WE ARE ROLLING OVER $900,000 WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR 1.27 MILLION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION 4K FREEZE, BUT I DO WANNA BRING SOMETHING UP THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR COUNSEL TO, UM, WRAP THEIR HEADS AROUND AND MAYBE DISCUSS BRIEFLY WITH PEREZ.
UM, WHAT ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS OUR, UM, AUDIT REPORT, UM, OUR ANNUAL AND, UM, THERE WAS A LETTER SENT JULY 5TH, 2022 WE'RE DISCUSSED RISKS.
AND TWO OF THE RISKS, UM, ONE WAS EVALUATION OF THE NET PENSION LIABILITY, WHICH IS TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.
ANOTHER IS REVENUE RECOGNITION FOR CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
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SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS ULTIMATELY, UM, WHEN WE HAVE SERVICES AND IF WE HAVE TOO MANY OUTSTANDING SERVICES, THAT THEN BECOMES A RISK OR A LIABILITY TO THE CITY.SO AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS, UM, WE'RE SPENDING AT THIS 0.2 MILLION $231,495.
AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE FOR A COUPLE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES TO OVERSEE THESE PROJECTS? OR DO WE FEEL LIKE THEIR RISK OF SERVICES IS WORTH IT? NOT THAT I'M GONNA LEAD JUDGMENT, THAT'S, I THINK HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB AS SO HAS K FREEZE, BUT IN TERMS OF OUR, UH, FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT AND THE RISKS AND LIABILITIES, I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER IF WE COULD SPEND $2 MILLION IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
UM, THAT I'M, I'M ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS INCREASE.
CUZ I THINK THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
NOT THAT I DON'T THINK YOU EARN YOUR MONEY, I JUST THINK IS THIS THE BEST USE FOR OUR CITY? AND SO OVERALL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT US AS COUNCIL NEED TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S IN OUR AUDIT REPORT.
CAN WE HAVE PERVEZ SPEAK TO THE ASSESSMENT LIABILITY, OPEB AND RISK ASSESSMENT THAT SHE'S REFERRING TO? AND WHETHER OR NOT IN PARTICULAR THIS CONTRACT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON THAT RISK ASSESSMENT? MM-HMM.
SO MAYOR, MAYOR PROTE COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR THE RECORD, I'M VEMO.
HE CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
SO THE TWO RISKS FACTORS THAT THE AUDITORS HAD IDENTIFIED GOING INTO THE AUDIT PROCESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022.
ONE WAS IN THE AREA OF PENSION LIABILITY AND THE OTHER WAS REVENUE RECOGNITION FOR SERVICES THAT THE CITY PROVIDES.
SO THEIR CONCERN GOING INTO THE AUDIT WAS THAT IF THESE TWO AREAS ARE NOT CAREFULLY MONITORED BY STAFF OR RECORDED CORRECTLY, THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF THE CITY MIGHT BE MISSTATED SUCH THAT IT COULDN'T BE RELIED UPON.
SO THOSE WERE THE TWO AREAS THEY, THEY HAD IDENTIFIED THE PENSION LIABILITY.
IT'S PART AND PARCEL OF THE TM R S SYSTEM.
SO WE RELY ON TM R S AND THEIR ACTUARIAL CALCULATIONS FOR THE REVENUE RECOGNITION.
IF YOU FOCUS DOWN TO WHAT THEY'RE IMPLYING, THE AUDITORS IMPLYING IS THAT IF CITY STAFF AND THE IN PARTICULAR NOT ME DOES NOT RECORD OR ACCRUE REVENUE THAT THE CITY CHARGES FOR SERVICES, THERE ARE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS COULD BE MISSTATED.
SO BECAUSE THAT WAS SUCH A RISK, HIGH RISK AREA, THE AUDITORS HAD TO PLAN THEIR AUDIT IN SUCH A MANNER THAT THEY COULD SPEND EXTRA TIME IN THOSE TWO AREAS.
SO BASICALLY THAT'S THE RISK ASSESSMENT THEY DID GOING INTO THE AUDIT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WELL, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, DOES DOES THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF IMPACT ON THE RISK THAT THEY ARE, UM, UH, UH, PROMOTING IN THE CAFFER? SO THIS, THIS TRANSACTION OR THIS CONTRACT WAS NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE AUDIT BECAUSE IT'S HAPPENING NOW.
HOWEVER, ANY HIGH DOLLAR TRANSACTION, THE CITY INCURS HAS RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR DIRECT QUESTION, THEY DID NOT LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING OR GC CONTRACTS FOR RISK RISKS, UH, TOLERANCE ASSESSMENT THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE NEXT AUDIT.
HAD A QUESTION FOR JOE CUSTOMERS HERE TO GO.
SO, UH, QUESTION, SINCE YOU HAVEN'T SPENT MAYBE 700,000 OF IT THAT WAS ALLOCATED, UM, COULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE JUST TO LET US GET A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD WITH THESE PROJECTS BEFORE YOU COME ASKING FOR THE INCREASE, SINCE WE'RE STILL PRETTY EARLY IN THE YEAR? LIKE JUST, I, I DON'T, I, I WANT TO SEE US GET A LITTLE FURTHER AHEAD TO SEE MORE, MORE MONEY SPENT ON THE PROJECTS.
IT, IT, IT IS POSSIBLE BEFORE WE START JUST ADDING MORE MONEY AND NOW OUR, WE'VE ALREADY INCREASED THE LIMIT THAT WE CAN, UM, PAY.
MAYBE WE'LL END UP OVERPAYING.
SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST KIND OF KEEP IT
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PROPORTIONAL SINCE RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST APPROVING THESE ROADS, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DONE MUCH MORE THAN MAYBE, UH, LET'S FI LET'S FINISH SOME CONTRACTS, I GUESS WITH, WITH, WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER PARTIES AND STAKEHOLDERS AND, AND ENTITIES.I, I, I THINK I'M SAYING MORE PROGRESS AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON THE MONEY SIDE.
SO THE WAY THESE CONTRACTS USUALLY WORK IS WE SET ASIDE OR THE ENTITY SETS ASIDE RESOURCES YOU THINK FOR THE YEAR.
I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY SPEND THE MONEY DOWN, BUT THE RISK IS IF WE SPEND IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET TOO CLOSE TO THE EDGE AND WE RUN OUT, WE MIGHT NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK IN A RUSH AND, AND, AND GET IT.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A RISK COUNCIL MEMBER OF OVERSPENDING BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE TIME AND MATERIALS.
WE ONLY SPEND IT AS, AS WE NEED IT AND MM-HMM.
BUT DID WE AGREE TO A, TO A PRICE THAT WAS GONNA BE CHARGED TO, FROM THE BOND FROM DID WE AGREE TO A PRICE? NO.
OR IS THIS PRICE, SO JUST KIND OF MOVING LUCY GOOSEY, LET'S KEEP ADDING MORE TO THE LIMIT.
IT IT, IT'S NOT WHAT, WHAT, WHEN WE HELPED THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF ALLOCATE BUDGETS, RIGHT? LOOK AT THE BUDGETS FOR THE DESIGN CONTRACTS AND FOR THE GC CONTRACT, WE ESTIMATED AN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AND IT, AND IT, IT, THE ESTIMATE WAS MADE ON A FUNCTION OF MM-HMM.
SO THERE'S A BUDGETED AMOUNT FOR GE SERVICES, AND SO WE KEEP DRAWING DOWN FROM IT.
BUT THE REASON IT MIGHT SEEM LIKE IT'S LUCY GOOSEY, AND THEN WE KEEP ASKING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN BUDGETED, RIGHT? IT'S BEEN SET ASIDE MM-HMM.
THE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE IS IT, IT IS A BIG TEAM, RIGHT? RIGHT.
TH THIS, THE, THE 2023 FUNDS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, THAT WE'VE ESTIMATED IS, YOU KNOW, JUST ALMOST FIVE PEOPLE.
AND, AND THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT EXPERTISE THAT GOES INTO THIS.
SOMETIMES ENTITIES HIRE G E C TEAMS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE, THE EXPERTISE AND SOMETIMES IN HOUSE, AND SOMETIMES THEY HIRE THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ON STAFF, BUT TO GET THESE PROJECTS UP AND RUNNING AND THROUGH THE SYSTEM, RIGHT? WE NEED A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXPERTS.
AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A ROUNDABOUTS FIRST POLICY, RIGHT? UM, THAT TAKES A SPECIAL SORT OF ENGINEER TO REVIEW THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY'LL FUNCTION CORRECTLY, WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU'VE STATED RIGHT? AS A COUNCIL IS IMPORTANT.
THE OTHER STATED PREFERENCE OF COUNCIL IN THE CITY IS TO BURY THE UTILITIES.
SO IT DOES TAKE A VILLAGE BECAUSE THESE ARE, THEY'RE ALL VERY COOL, VERY INTERESTING PROJECTS, BUT THEY ALL HAVE THEIR COMPLICATIONS AND WILL REQUIRE THEIR SPECIALTIES.
AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS THAT WE DON'T CONSTANTLY COME BACK, ASK YOU FOR FUNDS THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AHEAD AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WE NEED.
WE DON'T ASK FOR SO MUCH WHERE WE BELIEVE ANYWAY THAT WE'RE TYING UP MONEY THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TIED UP.
IF WE'RE DOING OUR JOB CORRECTLY, WE WILL COME VERY CLOSE TO SPENDING WHAT WE NEED BECAUSE WE PREDICTED IT AND ESTIMATED IT CORRECTLY.
BUT WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT LEFT OVER BECAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY.
OKAY? SO THERE IS A BALANCING ACT.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK US TO WAIT, UH, MY OPINION IS THAT IT WILL JUST REQUIRE MORE ADMINISTRATION AND TIE UP MORE TIME AND MONEY THAT WAY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S JUST WHAT I THINK.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE US TO DO.
IN, IN A NUTSHELL, I UNDERSTAND WHEN THE, THE CONCERN THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, MS. FLORES KALE, WHEN
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WE'RE APPROVING THIS AMOUNT.I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S RISK IN EVERYTHING, OKAY? THERE'S RISK IN, IN EVERYTHING.
EVEN BUYING A NEW CAR, THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK OF, YOU KNOW, NOT GETTING THE RIGHT ONE.
BUT THERE'S ALSO THE RISK THAT IF WE DON'T ACT ON GETTING THESE PRICES IN, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS UNPREDICTABLE AND PREDICTABLE MARKET, UH, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SERVICES THAT COULD GO EVEN HIGHER.
SO I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE COMING ACROSS IS SAYING, I'M ONLY TRYING TO GET FUNDING THAT I JUST NEED APPROVED FOR NOW.
I DON'T, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU, SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST GET THE ENGINEERING GOING.
IT'S NOT LIKE SAYING WE'RE BUILDING THE ROADS RIGHT NOW.
IT'S, WE'RE GETTING THE ENGINEERING, UH, DESIGN AND CONCEPTS IN PLACE.
CUZ I DO AGREE WITH YOU, WE JUST BROUGHT UP A, A DIFFERENT SCENARIO A WHILE AGO WHEN IT COMES TO OUR WASTEWATER AND THE PIPES.
THERE'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES OUT HERE, A LOT, LOT OF LAND THAT HAS RIVETS, THAT HAS, UH, BURIED PIPES, THAT HAS, UH, SEWER LINES THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
AND WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WHEN THE ENGINEERING BEGINS, THAT WE IDENTIFY ALL OF THOSE AHEAD OF TIME.
BECAUSE ONCE WE DO START CONSTRUCTION, WE DON'T WANT LIKE, OH NO, WE, WE RAN INTO AN AREA WHERE WE'VE GOTTA ASK MORE MONEY BECAUSE WE GOTTA MOVE A PIPELINE JUST TO GO AROUND, UH, UH, OR TO BUILD THE SIDEWALKS.
WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTA DIG DEEPER OR WE'VE GOTTA DIG AROUND OR REPLACE PIPING AND IS IT COUNTY PIPING OR IS IT CITY PIPING? YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S THOSE KIND OF THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENGINEERING.
CORRECT? WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT CORRECTLY.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE TEAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT CAN DO THIS, UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT, WHAT'S NECESSARY.
SO I UNDERSTAND, I, I SEE BOTH SIGNS.
I SEE THE CONCERN OF OVERSPENDING OR SAYING, DO WE, DO WE REALLY NEED TO SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY NOW? BUT I ALSO SEE THE URGENCY AS WELL THAT IF WE DON'T DO THIS, PRICES WILL INCREASE PRODUCT WILL, UH, WILL INCREASE, UH, MANPOWER, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING OUT OF ALSO POST COVID WHERE A LOT OF YOU DON'T KNOW.
IN ABOUT A COUPLE MORE YEARS, THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS WILL JUST START BOOMING AND THEN WE'RE EVEN DELAYED, WHICH MEANS IT'S GONNA COST US EVEN MORE.
SO IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, WHAT YOU'RE RE REQUESTING FOR US IS TO GO AHEAD AND JUST APPROVAL.
WE HAVE NOW YOU'RE ASKING US TO, THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO GET THIS GOING FOR THE SPECIFIC ROADS, AND THESE ARE THE CONTRACTORS THAT I HAVE, WE HAVE LISTED TO WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST GET THIS GOING.
COUNCIL MEMBER WITH REGARD TO THE DESIGN CONTRACTS, UH, YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT.
UM, TIME VERY RARELY IS ON OUR SIDE.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SLOW, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS LIKE THESE DOWN, WE, WE WANT TO GET THEM THROUGH THEM QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
UM, AND SO YEAH, IT, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE DESIGN CONTRACTS BE APPROVED.
THERE'S NO WAY REALLY EFFICIENT WAY, FOR EXAMPLE, TO APPROVE A PORTION OF A DESIGN CONTRACT.
I MEAN, IF, IF SCHEMATIC DESIGN, FOR EXAMPLE, IS VERY DIFFICULT TO BREAK UP FOR PS AND E, UH, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET SOMEONE TO AGREE TO BE FUNDED FOR 30%, 60%.
AND WE WERE JUST QUITE HONESTLY, WASTE A TON OF MONEY AND TIME STOPPING AT 30%, FOR EXAMPLE, NEGOTIATING THE 60%, IT WOULD JUST COST MORE MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE APPROVE THOSE PHASES.
WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE PHASES ALL AT ONCE FOR THE GE C CONTRACT, THERE IS A, A, A LITTLE BIT TO BE SAID FOR JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US, NOT THAT WE'LL NECESSARILY SPEND IT ALL, WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE THE RESOURCES WE NEED TO COMPLETE THE YEAR.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S NOT AS GREAT AS IT WOULD BE WITH THE DESIGN CONTRACTS, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S REALLY SUPER EFFICIENT TO HAVE US COME BACK EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS AND SAY, WELL, WE JUST SPENT, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER $200,000, WE HAVE ANOTHER 200 MORE.
UM, WE'VE GOT A TEAM OF, UH, EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM THE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING ON THE PROGRAM SO THEY DON'T GO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, KEEP OUR CORE TEAM TOGETHER AND THAT WE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, PROCEED THROUGH THIS.
BUT AGAIN, UM, IT'S THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS MM-HMM.
UM, AND ACTUALLY THIS IS GONNA SOUND FUNNY COMING FROM A CONSULTANT, RIGHT? OUR JOB IS TO GET THROUGH THIS, AND I KNOW I SAY THIS A LOT IS QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY AND AT
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THE LEAST EXPENSE POSSIBLE.MY GOAL, ACTUALLY, MY COMPANY'S GOAL AS WELL IS, IS TO NOT USE ALL YOUR MONEY FOR G C SERVICES, RIGHT? WE WANT TO, YOU WANT, YOU'RE GONNA DO ANOTHER BOND, AND WE WANNA LEAVE A GOOD TASTING IN YOUR MOUTH, RIGHT? WE WANT TO MAYBE COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER ONE, OR WE WANT TO GO TO THE PLACE, UP THE ROAD AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, WE DID THIS COOL THING FOR KYLE, YOU KNOW, PLEASE THINK ABOUT US.
BUT, BUT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY COMMITTING TO SPENDING ALL THE MONEY, IT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO US SO WE CAN KEEP GOING.
AND AGAIN, HONESTLY, NOT HAVING TO WORRY AND COMING BACK AND SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT TWO MONTHS WORTH OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE, CAN WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE? IT'S JUST, TO ME IT SEEMS AWFULLY INEFFICIENT, BUT YEAH, I, SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE THINGS TO SAY AS WELL.
SO, N NUMBER ONE, THE, WHAT IS, IT'S A QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE OBJECTIVE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE? UH, BY HIRING A GE C IN 2013, WE CREATED A ROAD BOND PROGRAM.
WE DID NOT HIRE A G C, IT TOOK US TWO YEARS TO GET TO THE POINT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
SO IF WE GO DOWN THE ROUTE OF WANTING TO FIRE THEM, HIRE IN-HOUSE PEOPLE, WE'RE TALKING ONE YEAR DELAY, TWO YEARS DELAY MINIMUM ON OUR ROADS PROJECTS, YEAH.
UH, IT'S JUST A COMPLETE RESET OF THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING.
UH, IT'S AN EJECT, IT'S AN AB IT'S A FULL ABORT, UH, OF THE ROAD BONDS PROGRAM.
SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS, ARE WE SATISFIED WITH THE, UH, THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT THAT WE ARE RECEIVING FOR THE SERVICES AND THE DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED? UH, MY ANSWER TO THAT IS RESOUNDINGLY YES, BECAUSE WE ARE VOTING ON THE CONTRACTS EXACTLY ON SCHEDULE AND EXACTLY WITHIN THE SCOPE, UH, THAT WE HAVE SET OUT.
SO WE, KRE IS DOING THE NUMBER ONE JOB THAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO DO, AND THAT IS TO DELIVER THESE ROAD ENGINEERING CONTRACTS TO US, UH, WITH ALL HASTE.
AND, UH, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN COMMENTS MADE AT THIS MEETING ABOUT HOW WE WANT THEM TO COME WITH ALL HASTE, UH, THAT COSTS MONEY.
WE ARE ASKING THEM TO PUT RESOURCES INTO THIS, TO FOCUS ON THESE ROADS, UH, AND TO DELIVER FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
SO WITHOUT DOUBT, IN, IN, IN MY MIND, IN, IN TERMS OF EVERY BOX THAT GETS CHECKED, I KNOW THEY'RE COMING BACK AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE ASKING FOR, FOR MORE MONEY TO BE MADE AVAILABLE TO US SO THAT WE CAN PURSUE, UH, THESE, UH, ROAD ENGINEERING PROJECTS WITH, YOU KNOW, UH, WITH OUR FULL TEAM AND WITH THE CONFIDENCE.
BUT TO ME IT'S A, IT SHOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE YES.
SO WE WANT K THREES TO HAVE THAT CONFIDENCE SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DELIVER, UH, THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, DELIVERING FOR US.
SO, UH, I DO NOT WANT A FULL ABORT.
I DO NOT WANNA ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGE DIRECTIONS, BRING THE PROGRAM IN-HOUSE, AND I DO NOT WANNA STRING THEM ALONG PROJECT BY PROJECT MONTH BY MONTH, UH, WHEN THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING TO EARN THAT, UH, SORT OF TREATMENT FROM US.
AND AS IT'S BEEN STATED, UH, THEY'VE ONLY USED 500,000 OUT OF THE ORIGINAL, UH, UH, AMOUNT THAT WE MADE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
SO, UM, I THINK THEIR TRACK RECORD SPEAKS FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR MYSELF.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THEM CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD, UH, AS OUR ROAD BOND, UH, PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
AND STILL ALL OF THIS IS LESS THAN 1% OF TOTAL PROJECT COSTS.
SO IF YOU'RE THINKING OF IT IN TERMS OF COST OF SERVICES FOR A CONSULTANT, WE'RE AT LESS THAN 1% TOTAL PROJECT COSTS.
JUST REALLY QUICK, UH, MR. CAN LUPO, HOW MUCH RUNWAY ARE YOU GIVING YOURSELVES WHEN YOU'RE, UH, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE ASKING FOR THIS RENEWAL AND CONTRACT? I DON'T KNOW THAT I REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT NECESSARILY.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, LIKE WHAT KIND OF LEAD TIME DO YOU LOOK AT? YOU'RE STANDING HERE TODAY AND YOU SAY YOU DON'T NEED IT NECESSARILY RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN, WHEN DO YOU FORECAST THAT YOU WOULD NEED IT? IT, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR PACING AND HOW YOU GUYS WORK.
SO THE PACING IS CHANGING AND THAT'S MY, MY HESITANCY, RIGHT? IF YOU LOOK AT OUR RECENT BILLINGS, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
THEY, THEY VARY FROM LIKE 38,000 TO $50,000 A MONTH BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GETTING READY.
THEY'LL BE A LULL BECAUSE, UM, ASSUMING THAT THE DESIGN CONTRACTS GET APPROVED TONIGHT AND THE OTHER TWO GET APPROVED NEXT WEEK WE'LL HAVE EIGHT DESIGN CONTRACTS.
THEY'LL BE A FLURRY, WE'LL HAVE KICKOFF MEETINGS WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, THEY'LL GO DO THEIR WORK AND WE'LL SLOW DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEN WHEN THEY START PRODUCING THINGS, THEY START GETTING THEIR DATA COLLECTED AND WE START REVIEWING EVERYTHING, IT'S GONNA PICK UP AGAIN.
SO IT, IT'S VERY HARD FOR, FOR ME TO SING.
SO JUST TO SET PROPER EXPECTATIONS AS WELL AS WE CAN WHEN, YOU KNOW, IF THIS GETS APPROVED TONIGHT, WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE BEING BACK HERE, UH, FOR US COLLECTIVELY TO ADDRESS THAT NEXT FLURRY OF ACTIVITY? OH, UH, IN TERMS OF, OF A REQUEST FOR FUNDS? YES.
OH, WE WOULDN'T BE BACK UNTIL,
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UH, NO SOONER THAN THE END OF THIS YEAR.AND POSSIBLY IF, IF THE MONEY LASTS LONGER AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A BIG REARRANGING OF, OF ANYTHING, IT, IT COULD BE UP TO A YEAR.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AGA AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER, IT JUST DEPENDS ON IF ANYTHING UNEXPECTED COMES UP DURING DESIGN.
UM, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT HELP THE PROJECTS GO MORE SMOOTHLY.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT JUST NEED MORE TIME AND ATTENTION FROM US.
UM, BUT NO SOONER THAN THE END OF THE YEAR AND POSSIBLY WHAT ARE WE IN MARCH AND POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, TWO UP TO A YEAR FROM NOW.
WE'RE JUST GONNA, WE, WE WILL, WE WILL MAKE THAT LAST AS LONG AS, AS WE CAN.
MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 15 16 17 MOTION BY CUSTOMER, PARTIALLY SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLORIS SCALE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 15 THROUGH 18 IS THE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER FLORIS KA.
SO MY GOAL WAS NOT TO VOTE NO FOR THIS.
MY GOAL OF BRINGING THIS INFORMATION UP WAS TO APPRISE COUNSEL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE VOTING ON WHEN WE VOTE, UM, TO INCREASE TO 2.2 MILLION.
AND WHAT IS OUR ALTERNATIVE, WHICH WOULD BE TO HIRE SOMEBODY IN HOUSE.
UM, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I WAS LOOKING TO DO, CUZ THERE WOULD BE A DELAY.
WHAT I'M LOOKING TO DO IS TO INFORM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ALL TAKE A VOTE, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE VOTING TO SPEND THIS MONEY IN A WAY WHERE WE COULD UTILIZE IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
UM, OVERALL I HAVE BEEN PLEASED WITH YOUR SERVICES, NO DOUBT.
BUT MY, MY LOYALTY AND MY DUTIES ARE TO THE RESIDENTS AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M MAKING THE BEST VOTE I CAN WITH THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE.
UM, MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, IF, IF WE DECIDED NOT TO, LIKE IN TWO YEARS WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA USE THESE, THIS COMPANY ANYMORE.
WE, WE WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE ENGINEERS, RIGHT? LIKE THAT, THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION, RIGHT? YES.
SO, UM, AS A REMINDER, THE, THE DESIGN ENGINEER CONTRACTS, ALTHOUGH WE'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, FACILITATED THE CITY'S SELECTION AND WE'VE FACILITATED AND ACTUALLY RUN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR SCOPES AND CHECK THEIR FEES, THEY ARE CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY, NOT WITH KRE AND ASSOCIATES.
SO IF WE EVAPORATED DAY AFTER TOMORROW, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE DESIGN CONTRACTS AND, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THINGS, IF ONE OF THE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERS, UM, DOESN'T PERFORM AND WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE, IT WOULD BE JUST THAT ONE DESIGN ENGINEER.
IT WOULDN'T TOPPLE THE REST OF, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACTS AND IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T TOPPLE US.
DOES THAT OKAY, YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I, I WANNA KNOW, UH, CUZ I WANTED TO EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, THAT THIS IS NOT THE ENGINEERING COMPANY.
THIS IS A PROJECT OVERSIGHT COMPANY, SO YOU WERE WORRIED ABOUT SOMETHING BEING IN THE WRONG PLACE OR, OR HAVING ISSUES WITH THE ROAD IN THE ENGINEERING, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT KRES DOES.
THEY DO NOT ENGINEER THE ROADS, YOU GUYS OVERSEE THE ENGINEER, THE ROADS AND ANY PROBLEMS THAT COME ALONG WITH IT.
AND, AND, AND YES, COUNCIL MEMBER IN THIS CASE WE'RE, WE'RE PROVIDING OVERSIGHT, BUT WE, WE ARE CAPABLE OF DESIGNING ROADS AND CAPABLE OF DESIGN DESIGNING ROADS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.
UM, AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE IT.
I, I NO DOUBT THINK THAT THIS WILL PASS.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA BRING AWARENESS TO THE COUNCIL AND SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT IT IS WE'RE VOTING ON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OH, WAIT, YEAH, ONE MORE.
COUNCIL FIRST COUNSEL, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY, SINCE WE'RE GONNA GO THIS WAY, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET UPDATES, LIKE WE DO EVERY MEETING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STAFF JUST WROTE UPDATES ALL THE TIME SO WE CAN MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT? I THINK THE STAFF IS UNDER DIRECTION TO CREATE A FULL AND ROBUST WEBSITE FOR US, SO, OKAY.
BUT UNTIL THAT'S STARTED, CAN WE, CAN WE GET THE, THE MEETING UPDATES SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE THAT IS.
SO WE, WE, WE, I HAVE A LITTLE INFORMATION ON THAT AFTER THESE ITEMS. IF YOU, IF, IF COUNSEL HAS THE TIME, OF COURSE.
WE JUST, WE NEED THE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD WORK WITH STAFF TO BRING THOSE UPDATES TO US, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S THE UPDATES THAT COME PRIVATELY TO US, BUT THE UPDATES WE'RE THAT ARE PUBLIC FACING SO THAT EVERYONE BODY CAN MONITOR SURE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GIVEN THE DIRECTION, UH, TO BRING ABOUT.
AND I SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT IS BUILT INTO THIS.
SO, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL US IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[19. Acceptance of the City's Annual Comprehensive Financial Report (ACFR) and the Independent Auditor's Report for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2022. ~ Andy Alejandro, City's Accounting Manager & Tino Robledo, CPA, Senior Director, RSM US, LLP, Certified Public Accountants]
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, UH, 19 ACCEPTANCE OF THE CITY'S, UH, ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT AND THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 20 OR 30TH, 2022.[01:40:01]
ANDY, ALEJANDRO AND TINO ROBLEDO.UH, FOR THE RECORD, I'M ANDY ALEJANDRO, THE, THE CITY'S, UH, ACCOUNTING MANAGER.
THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A TWO-PART COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM.
THE FIRST PART FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND ACCEPT IS THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 22.
THE SECOND PART FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND ACCEPT IS THE INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR, ALSO FOR FISCAL YEAR 22.
ACCORDING TO ARTICLE EIGHT OF THE CITY CHARTER, THE, THE CITY REQUIRES THAT THE, AT THE CLOSE OF EACH FISCAL YEAR, AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT SHALL BE MADE OF ALL ACCOUNTS OF THE CITY BY A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT EXPERIENCED IN AUDITING MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS.
THE CITY CHARTER FURTHER REQUIRES THAT UPON ACCEPTANCE OF THE INDEPENDENT OTTERS REPORT, A SUMMARY THEREOF SHALL BE PUBLISHED IMMEDIATELY IN NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION IN THE CITY.
UH, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE WILL, WE WILL POST THIS IN THE HAYES FREE PRESS.
BOTH THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT AND THE INDEPENDENT AUDIT REPORT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.
FOR THE RECORD, I WILL GIVE YOU, I WILL GO OVER A FEW HIGHLIGHTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 22 OF THE CITY'S PERFORMANCE.
THE COMBINED BALANCE SHEET REFLECTS THE CITY'S FINANCIAL POSITION AS FOLLOWS.
ASSETS TOTALED 594 MILLION AND LIABILITIES WERE 162.8 MILLION.
THIS RESULTED IN THE COMBINED NET POSITION OF 431.2 MILLION.
OUR 72.6 OF EQUITY POSITION, THE CITY'S OVERALL NET POSITION OF 431.2 MILLION IS AN INCREASE OF 78.2 MILLION.
OUR 22.2% COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THE CITY'S PRIMARY PRIMARY FUND, THE GENERAL FUND HAD REVENUE AND TRANSFERS FROM ALL SOURCES OF 53.4 MILLION ON A MODIFIED APPROVAL BASIS.
IT ALSO HAD EXPENDITURES AND TRANSFERS OUT OF 41.6 MILLION.
THIS RESULTED IN AN ENDING FUNDING BALANCE AND END ENDING FUNDING BALANCE OF 33.1 MILLION.
THIS IS AN INCREASE OF $12.1 MILLION, OR 37.7% FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.
THE CITY'S REPORT WAS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED BY THE INDEPENDENT CPA FIRM, RSM, US, L L P.
THEY ARE NATIONALLY, UH, AUDIT FIRM, AND THEY GIVE US, THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UM, TALENT BASE THAT THEY CAN DRAW FROM, AND THAT REALLY HELPS US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, PROVIDE THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION TO OUR CITIZENS.
THE AUDIT REPORT PROVIDES COUNSEL, STAFF, CITIZENS THREE IMPORTANT FACTORS OF THE CITY.
FIRST, IT'S A VALIDATION OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL CONDITION BASED ON AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT.
SECOND, IT'S ALSO AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE CITY'S ACCOUNTING STANDARDS INTERN AND INTERNAL COR CONTROLS.
FINALLY, IT PROVIDES AN INDEPENDENT ASSURANCE THAT THE CITY'S REPORTING SYSTEMS, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE FOLLOWING THE GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING STANDARDS BOARD.
THERE ARE FOUR TYPES OF REPORTS THAT AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT CAN, CAN PROVIDE TO CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES, STATE AGENCIES, UH, AND I'LL GO FROM WORST TO BEST.
THE WORST IS A DISCLAIMER REPORT, THEN AN ADVERSE REPORT, THEN A QUALIFIED REPORT.
AND FINALLY, THE BEST IS THE UNQUALIFIED REPORT.
AND I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE CITY RECEIVED A CLEAN AND UNQUALIFIED REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022.
I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. VEMO HEAT FOR HIS GUIDANCE, LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES EVERY YEAR AND THE REST OF THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT AFTER ACCEPTANCE OF THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT AND INDEPENDENT AUDITORS REPORT.
WE WILL POST BOTH OF THESE ONLINE.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I HAVE PERVEZ, OF COURSE, AND TINO FROM RSM
UH, MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WILL THE FULL AND COMPLETE BUDGET BE PRESENTED? MAYOR, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE BUDGET DOCUMENT ITSELF WITH THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES OR FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET? THE ONE
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ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAFFER? YES.WE SHOULD HAVE IT IN COUPLE OF WEEKS, YES.
WE WERE POST POSTPONED A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON IT AND WE'LL HAVE THAT UPDATED SOON.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL, MAYOR FLORES CAL.
I HAVE QUESTIONS TO STAFF AND THEN I HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, TO THE COMPANY.
UM, SO ACTUALLY IT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT'S GONNA BE A REQUEST.
UM, ON PAGE LITTLE I LITTLE I, UH, UNDER A LONG-TERM PLANNING, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN EDIT IT, UH, SAY TO SAY, FOLLOWING EXTENSIVE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROCESS, THE CITY IS UPDATING THE COMPREHENSIVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND SO WHAT I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK, ESPECIALLY RESIDENTS, IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED OUR, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE JUST GOTTA ADOPT IT.
SO INSTEAD OF READING HAS COMPLETED, WE CAN PUT IS UPDATING COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IS PART OF THE TRANSMITTAL LETTER AND WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
IS THAT OKAY WITH COUNCIL? OKAY.
AND THEN, UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS.
MARIN COUNSEL, THIS IS TINA ROBLEDO, HE'S AN AUDIT MANAGER WITH RSM.
I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON THE INDEPENDENT AUDITORS REQUIRED COMMUNICATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, UNDER OVERVIEW OF THE PLAN SCOPE AND TIMING OF THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT, UM, THE SECOND SENTENCE SAYS, OUR LETTER DID NOT INDICATE MANAGEMENT OVERRIDE CONTROLS.
UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF MANAGEMENT OVERRIDE OF CONTROLS? YEAH, DEFINITELY.
AS PART OF THE AUDIT, I THINK PERVE EXPLAINED EARLIER THE SIGNIFICANT RISK THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED WHEN WE STARTED THE AUDIT.
WELL, AS PART OF THE OVERALL AUDIT, WE ALSO LOOKED AT ABOUT, UH, WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL AUDIT APPROACH AND WE THINK ABOUT DID WE MISS ANYTHING? IN THIS CASE, WE, MANAGEMENT OVERRIDE IS CRITICAL AND THAT'S COMMON.
THAT'S NOT AN EXCEPTION TO THE CITY.
IT'S PRETTY STANDARD IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL AUDIT APPROACH.
SO IN THIS CASE, MANAGEMENT OVERRIDE WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
AND AS PART OF THAT, UH, IN TERMS OF AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT MANAGEMENT OVERRIDE WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE, UH, A SIMPLE BOND ENTRY FOR BOND PAYMENTS IN, IN TERMS OF MAKING THAT ENTRY, MAKING SURE THAT IT MAKES IT TO THE BOOKS, UH, ACCURATELY AND COMPLETELY AND ON TIME.
AND UH, TYPICALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, WE SEE WE, WE WANNA SEE ALL THE BACKUP AND WE WANNA SEE ALL THE APPROVALS.
SO MANAGEMENT OVERRIDE OF CONTROLS IS WHEN YOU, YOU'RE MISSING ALL OF THAT.
AND, AND TYPICALLY JOURNAL ENTRIES IS ONE WAY THAT WE, WE TEST THAT.
SO IN THIS CASE, MANAGEMENT OVERRIDE OF CONTROLS IS, IS, IS A RISK THAT WE, WE THOUGHT NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AND WE LOOKED AT IT AND HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY ISSUES WITH, WITH THAT.
TYPICALLY WHEN YOU SEE THAT AND THERE ARE ISSUES, THE OPINION WOULD BE CLEAN, BUT YOU'D SEE OTHER REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS SUCH AS SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES, CONTROLLED DEFICIENCIES, MATERIAL WEAKNESS, MATERIAL WEAKNESSES, NOTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, WAS, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO REPORT.
MAY I ASK YOU WHY? UH, IT SAYS THIS RISK WAS SUBSEQUENTLY IDENTIFIED AS A SIGNIFICANT RISK? YES.
SO AS PART OF THE OVERALL AUDIT APPROACH, WE, WE HAVE, IT'S NOT JUST I, BUT IT'S A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT COME TOGETHER AND LOOK AT THE OVERALL AUDIT APPROACH.
WE DEVELOP THE APPROACH UPFRONT AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE ISSUE THAT LETTER THAT WE COMMUNICATED, I THINK, WAS IT JULY 5TH OR JUNE 5TH, WHATEVER THE DATE IS.
SO WE ISSUE THAT AND WE RELEASE IT TO THE CITY.
AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, WHEN WE START THE AUDIT, WE ALL GREEK GROUP AND SAY, DID WE MISS ANYTHING IN THIS CASE WE DID.
SO WE SUBSEQUENTLY COMMUNICATED THAT IN THE LETTER THAT WE JUST RELEASED RECENTLY.
UH, YOU ANSWERED MY, WELL, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE OTHER QUESTION, UM, AS A REVENUE RECOGNITION FOR CHARGES OF SERVICES.
SO THAT WAS, UM, ALSO HANDLED.
UM, BUT GOING TO THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, UM, NEXT TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF, IF POSSIBLE, UM, WE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE AUDITORS.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE IT DIRECTLY, UM, FORWARDED TO STAFF? CUZ THE LETTER FROM I THINK JULY 5TH, UM, I HAD TO REQUEST, AND THAT WAS WHEN I WAS READING THIS AND REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A LETTER AND IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THE FEEDBACK OF COUNCIL IS IMPORTANT FOR THE AUDIT.
AND SO IF INFORMATION LIKE THAT COULD BE SENT TO US, IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, YOU KNOW, DURING THE MEETINGS LIKE THIS.
YEAH, IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE GOVERNING BODY AND THEIR PREFERENCES.
I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IF, IF YOU'D LIKE THAT HAPPENS, THE COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION HAPPENS AT THE BEGINNING, AT THE END, AND AT THE BEGINNING YOU WOULD RECEIVE THAT LETTER THAT, THAT'S STATED DURING THE SUMMER.
AND, UH, TYPICALLY IF YOU MANDATE IT,
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YOU, WE WOULD COME BEFORE YOU AND EXPLAIN THE OVERALL AUDIT APPROACH AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA START AND, UH, IDENTIFY ANY RISK THAT WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD'VE IDENTIFIED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MAY OKAY.
UH, PEREZ, UM, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 10 OF THE COMPREHENSION OF THE, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE GENERAL REVENUE SECTION, CORRECT? YES SIR.
SO ARE, ARE WE SAYING THAT THE, THIS IS FOR THIS YEAR, SO THE PROPERTY TAXES, SALES TAX, FRANCHISE FEES, OTHER TAXES, IT INCREASED BY 8.5 MILLION OR 23.6% THIS PAST YEAR? YES SIR.
AND THEN THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASED BY 5 MILLION OR 24.1% SALES TAX INCREASED BY 2.7 OR AT 21.8? YES SIR.
AND THEN THE INVESTMENT EARNINGS WERE AT 0.7 0.7 MILLION OR 279% AND OTHER TAXES INCREASED BY 0.26 MILLION OR 49.2 FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
SO THEN I'M LOOKING AT THE EXPENSES.
THIS IS FOR, FOR US, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY CUZ IT KIND OF GIVES A SUMMARY SO THAT WAY THE, THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW WHAT OUR EXPENSES ARE.
SO OUR INCREASE, OUR GENERAL GOVERNMENT INCREASED BY 2.7 MILLION OR TWO FOUR, UH, 24.7%, CORRECT? YES SIR.
PUBLIC SAFETY INCREASED BY 0.66 MILLION OR 7%.
THIS INCREASES DUE TO THE ADDITIONAL OF THE NEW STAFF IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
PUBLIC WORKS INCREASED TO 2.2 0.2 MILLION SIX, SEVEN OR 26% THIS PAST YEAR.
STATES HERE THAT THE INCREASES IN THE RESULT IN OPERATING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SANITATION AND RECYCLING SERVICES.
UM, I WONDER IF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE TD S CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE, SIR.
IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION MARI PER TEMP.
SO PUBLIC WORKS IS OPERATING COSTS.
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING HERE IS IT'S MOSTLY SANITATION AND STREET DEPARTMENT.
AND THE CULTURAL RECREATION HAS INCREASED BY 0.16 MILLION OR 4.6 AND THE BOND INTEREST INCREASED BY 0.8 OR 6.9%.
WATER AND WASTEWATER AND STORM DRAINAGE FUNDS INCREASED BY 2.1 MILLION OR 18.4% IN REVENUE.
SO, UM, LOOKING AT THE REVENUE SOURCES, SALES TAX WAS AT 20.7.
UH, OUR FRANCHISE TAX IS AT 4.2%.
GRANTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS ARE 13.5.
THIS LEN REVENUE IS 1.6 AND OUR PROPERTY TAX IS 33.6 AND CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
I GUESS KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING EARLIER WAS 26.3, SO I'M JUST KIND OF WANTING TO GIVE IT A RUNDOWN IF OF WHAT WE, WE'VE INCREASED ON SOME OF OUR SERVICES, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
THAT WAY IF RESIDENTS HAVE QUESTIONS OF, OF WHY IT'S HIGH OR, OR WHAT WAS OUR PERCENTAGES THIS PAST YEAR? THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES IT A, A BRIEF RUNDOWN.
THE CITY'S, UH, ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT IS MORE THAN JUST NUMBERS.
UH, IT REALLY IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION, UH, ANYWHERE FROM PROPERTY TAX ALL THE WAY TO YOUR LARGEST WATER USERS IN THE CITY, THE LARGEST TAXPAYERS IN THE CITY.
ALL THAT INFORMATION IS PROVIDED, UH, IN THIS DOCUMENT.
SO IF, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PERUSE THROUGH THIS REPORT.
IT HAS GREAT, UH, STATISTICAL INFORMATION ON CITY'S SERVICES, CITY'S CUSTOMER BASE, UM, THE PROPERTY TAX OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, HOW THEY HAVE INCREASED, UH, FRANCHISE TAX, SALES TAX, UH, VARIOUS REVENUES.
PLUS WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL COVER AT ANDD SELECTED THIS YEAR.
I JUST KIND OF WANTED JUST TO DO A BRIEF SUMMARY ON, ON THAT, ON THAT ONE THERE, BUT, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU HAVE ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB AS WELL FOR PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION AND, UH, WANT
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TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.OUR CITY IS CONTINUING TO GROW.
UH, THERE ARE SERVICES AND NEEDS, UM, THAT NEED TO BE THERE AND THEY ARE GOING TO COST MONEY AND WE NEED TO HAVE EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, AS OUR CITY NEEDS, STREETS, ROADS, PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, SERVICES, UH, YOU, YOU WILL SEE AN INCREASE.
BUT, UH, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO BE ON THE RIGHT TRACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN BUDGET.
AND, AND, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY IN YOUR GROUP FOR, FOR NARROWING THOSE NUMBERS DOWN FOR US.
SO I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT THIS AND UH, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE SEVEN AND PAGE 16 AND JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UM, WHY I'M MISCALCULATING MAYBE $10 MILLION.
SO THE BUS, THE GOVERNMENT, AND THE BUSINESS ACTIVITIES, AND I'M FOCUSING ON THE TOTAL LIABILITIES IS 42.8 MILLION FOR THE GOVERNMENT MINUS IT WENT DOWN ON BUSINESS, THE LIABILITY 1.4 MILLION.
SO YOU END UP WITH 41.3 TOTAL FOR 2022 COMPARED TO 2021.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, TOTAL OUTSTANDING DEBT OF THE CITY, WE WE'RE AT 1 31 0.2 AND IT SAYS THAT'S AN INCREASE OF 31.8.
SO WHY ISN'T IT MATCHING WITH 41.3 FROM THE NET POSITION TABLE? SO COUNCIL MEMBER, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT'S $10 MILLION DIFFERENTLY.
LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING $10 MILLION THAT ALLOW, THAT SHOULD BE IN LIABILITY OF THE CITY.
NO, IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE HIGHER, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO LIABILITIES OR ASSETS OF THE CITY, THERE ARE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNT, UH, ACCOUNTS YES.
THAT HAVE FUNDS FOR LIABILITIES AND ASSETS.
THEN YOU HAVE BUSINESS ACTIVITIES SUCH AS WATER FUNDS, SEWER FUNDS, STORM DRAINAGE, RIGHT? THOSE ARE BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE ITS ZONE LIABILITIES AND ASSETS.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMBINED LEVEL, UM, GO AHEAD.
I'M GONNA LET ANDY WALK YOU THROUGH THE ASSETS AND LIABILITIES.
AND ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE, AND THAT'S A BIG NUMBER IN 21 TO 20 22, 40 2 MILLION.
AND GOVERNMENT LIABILITY, THAT'S A BIG CHANGE.
UH, 53% I GUESS, WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? COUNCIL MEMBER ON PAGE SEVEN, THE NET POSITION.
SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO MAKE A COMPARISON THERE TO OUR TOTAL DEBT, UM, THAT WENT UP TO 31.8 MILLION.
AND, AND THE, THE, THE TOTAL DEBT IS ROLLED UP IN THE NON-CURRENT LIABILITIES MM-HMM.
AND, AND IF YOU GO TO PAGE 19, YOU'LL SEE A BETTER SNAPSHOT OF THE DEBT.
YOU'LL SEE THE DEBT THAT'S DUE IN MORE THAN ONE YEAR.
AND THIS DOES INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENTAL, UH, FUNDS THAT ARE DUE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE 87 MILLION AND THE 32 MILLION, SO THAT'S THE HUNDRED 20.
AND THAT'S JUST THE NON-CURRENT.
SO YOU HAVE THE CURRENT PORTION OF 12 MILLION, SO THAT'LL BRING YOU BACK TO THE 1 30, 1 30 2 MILLION FOR BOTH.
WHERE'S THE ONE, WHERE'S THE 1 61? OH, SORRY, THE 1 31.
IT, IT'S BROKEN UP IN TWO SECTIONS YOU'LL SEE THE NON-CURRENT AND RIGHT ABOVE THAT YOU'LL SEE A BONDS PAYABLE CURRENT.
YOU SAID PAGE 19? PAGE 19, YES, SIR.
IS THE STATEMENT OF THAT POSITION? YES.
I SEE THE 1 22 AND I SEE THE 38.
AND THEN YOU ALSO SEE 11 MILLION 4 99.
THE FOOT MAY BE A BETTER SNAPSHOT.
SO THIS IS A BEG BIGGER OVERVIEW.
IT'S, IT'S, BUT I WAS CLOSE LOOKING AT THAT OTHER SIDE, RIGHT? I, YES, YES, BECAUSE THAT'S 42 DIDN'T MATCH UP WITH 31.
YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A ROLLUP OF ALL THOSE.
YOU, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NO 10 MILLION MISSING.
I I I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT 10 MILLION MISSING IN THIS, IN, IN THE CITY.
YOU GAVE OUR AUDITORS A MINI HEART ATTACK.
UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19.
SECOND, MOTION BY CUSTOMER BRADSHAW SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE THAT
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WE APPROVE.UH, THE CAFFER, UH, CAN'T SAY THAT ANYMORE, BUT IT'S, IT'S AFER AFER A AFER
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA SKIP AGENDA ITEM 20 AND 21 SO THAT WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT THE END OF
[22. Discussion and possible action regarding enhancing and amending the Kyle Style Guide/development ordinances to attract and encourage high quality developments in within the city. ~ Ashlee Bradshaw, Council Member]
THE MEETING.AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM 22, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ENHANCING AND AMENDING THE KYLE STYLE GUIDE DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES TO ATTRACT AND ENCOURAGE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS IN, UH, WITHIN THE CITY, UH, CUSTOMER BRACHA.
UH, YEAH, SO I THINK THAT WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED, UH, OUR FRUSTRATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS AND BRINGING IN, IN, IN OUR EFFORTS TO BRING IN OR INCREASE OR ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IN KYLE.
AND I HAD SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH WILL AND WITH PAIGE AND I ALSO LOOPED COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY IN BECAUSE SHE HAS INCREDIBLE TASTE AND WE KIND OF, WE BRAINSTORMED A BIT ON SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
THERE IS A LAW THAT ACTUALLY RESTRICTS A LOT OF WHAT WE CAN REQUIRE AS A CITY WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT AND I'M SURE WILL CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS.
UM, WE DID EXPLORE DOING SOME SORT OF DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THEN I BELIEVE I'M, I'M NOT SURE SURE IF I'M REMEMBERING THIS CORRECTLY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS REALLY LIMITED TO SPECIAL DISTRICTS.
AND SO WE KIND OF EXPLORED SOME OTHER OPTIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT WILL ACTUALLY PRESENTED A REALLY GREAT IDEA OF KIND OF CREATING LIKE AN OC I WON'T, I WON'T EVEN, I WON'T STEAL YOUR THUNDER.
I'LL LET YOU COME UP HERE AND EXPLAIN IT.
I'M OPEN TO DOING WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO REALLY ENCOURAGE SOME HIGHER QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN KYLE.
SO I'M OPEN TO WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS AS FAR AS IDEAS GO.
I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER WILL HAS PROPOSED.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO DO SOMETHING AND TAKE SOME SORT OF INITIATIVE TO REALLY INCREASE THE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENTS.
DO I NEED A SECOND? THAT DISCUSSION? OKAY.
WELL I CAN SEND THE PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, I MIGHT NEED A REMINDER ABOUT THE ITEM YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE, THE OLI CARD.
SO YOU HAD SUGGESTED, MY INTERPRETATION WAS YOU HAD SUGGESTED WE DO HAVE THIS STYLE GUIDE RIGHT NOW, WHICH KIND OF GIVES GUIDELINES MM-HMM.
UM, AND YOU, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING LIKE INCREASING LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE IF YOU ARE WANTING MORE DENSITY.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS CREATING KIND OF LIKE A, A MENU THAT THESE DEVELOPERS CAN COME IN, LOOK AT, OBVIOUSLY EVERY OPTION WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND THAT WE FEEL ELEVATES THE DEVELOPMENT OVERALL.
BUT YOU HAD THROWN OUT SOME SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS, WHICH I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, DOES, IS THAT RINGING A BELL TO HELP? IT IS.
UM, I THINK IN, IN THAT SPECIFIC CONVERSATION, IT WAS RELATED TO, UM, REDUCING DENSITY BY RIGHT.
AND WHAT HAVE YOU RELATED TO THAT.
BUT IF THEY WANTED, UH, ESSENTIALLY MAKING IT, UM, IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE HIGHER DENSITY, WE HAD HIGHER REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE.
FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THOUGH, UM, WE HAVE NOT MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS MOVING FORWARD CUZ WE'VE BEEN PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, WHICH HAS SOME, IN THE END, WE'LL PROVIDE FOUNDATIONAL DIRECTION INTO HOW WE AMEND OUR CODE AND HAVE A CODE REWRITE AFTER THAT.
SO WE WERE, UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT AT THE MOMENT.
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WE DO HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE DO NOT VIOLATE THE HOUSE BILL.
AND I ALWAYS GET THE LAST DIGIT WRONG.
UM, BECAUSE THE STATE IN 2018, UH, PASSED A BILL THAT SEVERELY LIMITED WHERE CITIES COULD INCORPORATE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WE HAVE THE I 35 OVERLAY, AND THERE'S AN ASPECT OF THE, OF THAT HOUSE BILL THAT
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PRESERVES ALREADY EXISTING OVERLAY DISTRICTS FOR ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS.SO WE CAN UTILIZE THAT AND ENFORCE THOSE AREAS ALONG I 35.
ANOTHER AREA WOULD BE, UM, YOU CAN PUT IN, UM, AN OVERLAY OR A PROGRAM RELATED TO THE DOWNTOWN, LIKE AN HISTORIC DOWNTOWN RELATED ITEM.
AND SO THE REASON WHY I'M FOCUSING ON THOSE TWO SPECIFIC ONES, AND REALLY MORE SPECIFICALLY ON THE, UH, THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS BECAUSE, OR EXCUSE ME, ON THE HISTORIC OVERLAY, IS BECAUSE THAT'S A, THE RESULT OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND ALL THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR IS A KEY COMPONENT INTO HOW WE PURSUE CODE CHANGES MOVING FORWARD AND WHAT PROGRAMS WE PUT IN PLACE FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE.
IS THAT FOR ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY THOUGH? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE ISN'T A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN KYLE RIGHT NOW.
SO I, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT SLOWING ANYTHING DOWN BY FOCUSING ON THE DOWNTOWN, UH, MASTER PLAN OR NO, I HEAR YOU.
UM, WE ARE, WE ARE NOT PURSUING A LOT OF CODE AMENDMENTS AT THE MOMENT IF WE HAVE TO.
THAT'S ONE THING, LITTLE TWEAKS HERE AND THERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO AVOID DOING DOUBLE THE WORKLOAD FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ADDED INTO THAT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE THOSE ARE SUCH FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS, THEY WILL END UP DICTATING HOW OUR CODE CHANGES MOVING FORWARD.
SO IF WE CAN WAIT JUST A, A, JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THOSE DOCUMENTS BEING FINISHED AND ACCEPTED AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, ULTIMATELY, UM, THE IDEA IS THE CODE RE WRITE AFTER THAT WILL HAVE A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, REWRITE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
UH, IN THE MEANTIME, AS UH, PROJECTS COME ALONG, UM, AND DEVELOPERS ARE REQUESTING PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS, UM, WE SHOW 'EM ALL THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STUFF WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE VIBE, VIBE, NODES, UH, WATER, WASTE OF WATER, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
AND WE UNDERSTAND FROM DIRECTION FROM Y'ALL UP THERE ON THE DIAS THAT Y'ALL ARE EXPECTING A GOLD STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE DO EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN TO WORK ON PROJECTS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE, ARE WORTH CONSIDERING AND, AND BETTERING THE CITY AT THE SAME TIME.
A LOT OF THOSE, UM, AS Y'ALL UNDERSTAND, UM, HAVE A LOT OF VERTICAL MIX USE COMPONENTS TO 'EM.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF, UH, CENTRAL SQUARES, THE, THE VIBE COMPONENTS COMING INTO IT, UM, AND A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL USES AND COMMERCIAL AS WELL.
SO WE WANT TO PROVIDE THOSE, UH, THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE JUST, THAT ARE, THAT ARE EYE-POPPING THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE PROUD OF AND JUST PROVIDE IN ADDITION TO THE CITY THAT BRINGS RESIDENTS TO OUT OF THEIR HOUSES AND ENJOY THE, THE CITYSCAPE AND EVENT LAWNS AND ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF.
SO, FIRST GOT SOME RESUME AGAIN.
UM, I HAD A FEW POINTS ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
I THINK WHEN I, YOU AND I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UM, AND I'M MORE FOCUSED ON THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, TREATING AND LANDSCAPING.
SO WE HAVE A 50 FOOT LINEAR FOOT TREE ORDINANCE.
I THINK MOST OF THE SUBDIVISIONS AND MOST OF THESE ZONES, IT'S 50 FEET.
UM, I WOULD PROPOSE MAYBE LOOKING AT 30 FEET THAT WOULD INCREASE MORE TREE CANOPIES.
ALSO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS LIKE AROUND OUR FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS, MORE LANDSCAPING, MORE FLOWERING, UM, TO MAKE, WE DON'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE JUST A FAST FOOD CITY.
SO MAYBE IN SOME OF THOSE PARKING AREAS WE'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE, UH, LANDSCAPING AND WE CAN ALSO BEAUTIFY ROUNDABOUTS A BIT MORE.
UH, I THINK OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TOURED DIFFERENT AREAS, THOSE ROUNDABOUTS THAT LOOK PRETTY WITH BRIDGES AND OTHER, UM, AREAS TO SIT DOWN IN.
AND, UM, WHAT I HAVE ONE, AND WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE A GREEN CERTIFICATION FOR SOME, SOME DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF THEY'RE WILLING TO GO BEYOND JUST, JUST YOUR EXPECTATION, BUT THEY EXCEED THOSE EXPECTATIONS AND USING BETTER SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS AND REALLY THINKING OF A DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE END LIFE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, LIKE WE CAN REUSE THAT STUFF, LIKE A BUYBACK SYSTEM WHERE WE REUSE THOSE KIND OF MATERIALS.
THOSE ARE THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE MORE, UM, THINKING LONG TERM OF HOW DOES IT ALL WORK TOGETHER.
SO IF WE HAD THOSE KIND DEVELOPERS COMING IN, WE COULD CREATE LIKE A LITTLE GREEN CERTIFICATION, UM, THAT WOULD BE FIVE STAR FOR, FOR THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO PUT THE EXTRA EXTRA INTO, UH, NEW HOMES OR NEW NEW BUILDINGS WITH, WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL MM-HMM.
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THOSE INTO OUR LANDSCAPE CODE THAT'S GONNA BE COMING FORWARD TO Y'ALL, UM, RELATED TO, UM, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.UM, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE DO IT BECAUSE, UH, PER STATE LAW, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REQUIRE IT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE IT AND TRY TO FIND WAYS TO INCENTIVIZE THROUGH OUR CODE TO MAKE IT WORTH, UM, DEVELOPERS' TIMES TO DO SO.
SO WE, WE, AND JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT ANYTHING THAT DOES COME FORWARD TO YOU DOES HAVE TO PASS LEGAL MUSTER, RIGHT.
AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, LEAD CERTIFICATIONS, UM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM.
BECAUSE IF WE START THINKING ABOUT THIS AS SOLVING MULTIPLE PROBLEMS AT ONCE, WE, WE GET THAT WAY MM-HMM.
NO, I HEAR YOU FOR SURE, BECAUSE WE'RE PARSLEY.
SO I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO ASK FOR A PRETTY BUILDING IS PLAYING WITH LIKE ZONING OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
I, I WISH THAT WE HAD GOLD STAND THERE ON THE WAY THAT EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES TO KYLE, IT LOOKS NICE.
I, I KEEP SAYING I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PLACES THAT I WANNA MOVE IN, UH, ALL ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE ENTIRE KYLE AND I, IT'S HARD TO GET TO THAT POINT.
UM, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS AND IDEAS IN HERE.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN SET IN PLACE? UM, ARE THERE ANY PARAMETERS? I KNOW YOU MENTIONED PARAMETERS, I'M SORRY.
UM, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED WE CAN DO DISTRICTS, LIKE IF WE WERE TO DO A DOWNTOWN MM-HMM.
THERE IS DENSITY ALL OVER THE ENTIRE 700 ACRES AND EVERY SECTION LOOKS GREAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET THERE.
I DO AGREE THAT MORE GREEN AREAS ARE, ARE MORE EYE APPEALING.
UM, THAT DOES ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO BE OUTDOORS.
AND IF YOU PUT ME TO A NEIGHBORHOOD'S ONE THAT HAS THE PRETTY HOUSES AND WATER FANS AND, AND THE ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY GREAT SPACES, I'M GONNA WANNA GO TO THE ONE THAT DOES.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO START GETTING FOR THAT TO BE THE LOWEST STANDARDS OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS COMING TO KYLE.
PART OF IT IS GOING TO BE CODE AMENDMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE WHERE WE CAN LEGALLY DO SO.
UM, BUT WE, WE, WE DO BUTT UP AGAINST STATE LAW RESTRICTIONS.
SO WHEN WE HIT THAT, WE DO, IF WE ARE LEGALLY ABLE TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, OR COORDINATE WITH THE OVERLAYS THAT ALREADY EXIST, OR EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE LAW, WE DO TAKE, TRY TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THOSE AS WE LEGALLY POSSIBLY CAN.
SO, AND I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU AND I ASKED YOU BEFORE, IS THERE ANY REQUIRE MINIMUM AREA OF GREEN SPACE THAT A DEVELOPER HAS TO HAVE IN PLACE DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT? IS IT LIKE 10, 10%, 15%? I DON'T KNOW.
I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK UP THE CODE TO BE EXACT, BUT I BELIEVE OUTSIDE, AND THIS IS OUTSIDE ANY PARK LANE REQUIREMENTS THAT MAY BE, MAY OR MAY NOT BE DEDICATED PER THE PARKS MASTER PLAN SCATTERED THROUGHOUT, UH, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, WE HAVE, WE REQUIRE POCKET PARKS THAT ARE LINKED BY, UH, TRAIL SYSTEMS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
NOW EACH SITE'S UNIQUE, SO HOW IT PLAYS OUT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH POCKET PARKS THAT ARE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, IF YOU WILL, UM, WITHIN, UM, WITHIN A A FOUR MINUTE WALK FOR A MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENCES.
AND SO IT'S AROUND TWO TO 3% OF THAT, I BELIEVE, FOR THE PROJECT IS, IS REQUIRED FOR THAT.
SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THAT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, UM, STREET TREES A ALONG THERE AS WELL, AND IT CAN BE INCREASED OR DECREASED ON THE, THE SPACING BETWEEN THE TREES MM-HMM.
SO SOME TREES, YOU DON'T WANT 'EM TOO CLOSE ALONG PUBLIC STREETS, BUT SOMETIMES YOU DO WANT 'EM CLOSER TOGETHER AS WELL, DEPENDING ON THE SPECIES.
I THINK YOUR ASPECT WAS ON THE PARKING LOTS, THE, THE 50 FOOT SPACING, WE CAN BEAUTIFY SOME OF THOSE AS THEY OPEN UP MORE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS.
IF YOU GO TO OTHER CITIES RIGHT.
AND YOU'RE WAITING IN THE DRIVE-THROUGH, THERE'S PRETTY LANDSCAPING AROUND THE DRIVE-THROUGH.
AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT IN, INTO OUR, INTO OUR, UM, NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN.
UM, SO WHEN WE TOURED THE MULE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT, THEY WERE, UM, INFORMATIVE ENOUGH TO LET US KNOW THAT AUSTIN HAS A DESIGN COMMITTEE, AND SO NOTHING GETS
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APPROVED UNLESS IT GOES THROUGH THE DESIGN COMMITTEE.IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, AND I CAN FORWARD YOU THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE LIKE BYLAWS AND THEN THEY HAVE LIKE MISSION STATEMENTS, UM, AND THEY HAVE A WHOLE WEBSITE FOR IT, AND IT, IT GOES THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND IT KIND OF TAKES THE PRESSURE OFF OF COUNCIL AND, AND YOU IN A WAY, AND, AND IT PUTS IT TO THE RESIDENTS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS, HOW THEY WANT TO SEE THE CITY.
I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IT'LL COME TO COUNCIL, BUT, UM, IS THAT, I DON'T WANNA SAY A WAY AROUND IT, BUT CAN WE ESTABLISH SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HELP US CREATE SOME, LIKE HOW DOES, HOW DOES AUSTIN GET AWAY WITH THAT? I GUESS? SO, I DON'T KNOW THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT WAS OWNED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN FROM THE START.
SO IF YOU HAVE OWNERSHIP IN THE PROPERTY, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY ADVOCATING THAT WE GO AND BUY ALL THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE CITY, UH, BUT IF YOU HAVE OWNERSHIP IN THE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY DICTATE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
AND SO PEOPLE HAVE TO COME TO YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS BY AND LARGE.
WELL, THE, THE COMMITTEE IS THROUGH THE CITY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE SEPARATE.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW, LIKE, WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT OF THEM OR THE BENEFIT TO THEM TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE IF IT CAN'T GUIDE THE CITY TO HOW IT WANTS IT TO LOOK? I JUST, I, I WANNA SAY, AND PAIGE CAN CLARIFY IF, OR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I LIKE WHERE YOUR MIND'S AT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO IMPLEMENT AT FIRST.
BUT I, I'M PRETTY SURE WHEN WE LOOKED INTO IT, THE LAW SAID THAT YOU CAN ONLY APPLY THESE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEES TO DISTRICTS OR, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW YOU REFER TO THEM OVERLAYS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BEFORE THE, UH, LAW WAS PASSED THAT RESTRICTED THE MUNICIPAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS.
HOW ABOUT THEY'RE NOT, I'M PRETTY SURE, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
IF THEY WERE ON A CHURCH, CAN WE ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF
THE DATE OF APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR MUELLER WAS 2004.
SO THAT WAS WELL IN ADVANCE BEFORE THAT STATUTE WAS ADOPTED IN 2019.
AND SO, UM, AREAS OF ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE THAT WERE ADOPTED AND ESTABLISHED BEFORE 2019 ARE ACCEPTED FROM THE STATUTE.
SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MUELLER, THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOT SOME KIND OF GRANDFATHERING UNDER THE LAWS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
BUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT I THINK WHAT THE APPROACH WOULD BE IS TO, THERE'S PROBABLY A MENU OF OPTIONS TO LOOK AT, UM, VARIOUS DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU THAT ARE STILL, SO THE MULE DEVELOPMENT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE DESIGN COMMITTEE.
THE DESIGN COMMITTEE IS THROUGH THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS DEVELOPED, IT'S MORE RECENT THAN THE 2004.
NOW, I CAN'T SAY IT'S BEFORE OR AFTER 2019, BUT IT'S IN ITSELF A DIFFERENT, IT HAS, IT GUIDES THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S NOT, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT STANDS ALONE JUST LIKE OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION WITH STANDALONE, AND IT WAS CREATED BY THE CITY AND MUELLER JUST UTILIZES THAT, BUT I I, IT WASN'T CREATED IN 2004.
WE, WE CAN VISIT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN ATTORNEYS AND PLANNING JUST TO GET CLARITY ON HOW THEY'RE DOING THAT QUESTION AND IN CONNECTION WITH THIS LAW.
SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF THROWING OUT A MENU OF OPTIONS, WHICH WOULD BE WHAT ABOUT THE TURS? WHAT ABOUT MM-HMM.
UM, WHAT ABOUT OVERLAYS? WHAT ABOUT HISTORICAL? WHAT ABOUT MAIN STREET PROGRAM? THOSE ARE ALL TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
THERE'S, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT AND ZONES THAT ARE AUTHORIZED UNDER STATE LAW THAT IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT IS ANOTHER OPTION.
SO I THINK WHAT, WHAT MAYBE ALSO APPROPRIATE IS FOR US TO SIT DOWN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEAM.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED EARLIER AS WELL.
AND SEE IF WE CAN TAKE THE, UM, BENEFIT OF THE, THE PLANNING TEAM AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AS WELL SINCE THIS OF THIS MAY BE CONNECTED AND TIED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE VISION AND THEN HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT.
THAT'S TYPICALLY PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT IT AS WELL.
YEAH, I JUST, UH, VERY QUICKLY IS, UM, AS GENERAL RULE OF THINKING, ANYTIME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STYLE, STYLE GUIDES OR PROCESS DOCUMENTS, I'M ALL GOING, I'M GONNA BE IN FAVOR OF THAT, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME.
UH, SO ESPECIALLY IN AN INSTANCE LIKE THIS WHERE THERE'S SO MANY MOVING PIECES, UH, CONVERSATIONS
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BEING HAD, UH, AROUND MANY PROJECTS, UH, I THINK THAT THIS IS ONLY GONNA BENEFIT OUR ABILITY TO MOVE, UH, EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY THROUGH PROJECTS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE, THE COLLECTIVE VISION THAT, THAT, UH, WE HAVE AND THAT WE ARE ELECTED TO HAVE FOR THE CITY.SO, UM, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I WAS HERE AND WORKED ON THE RESIDENTIAL, IT WAS CALLED THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE BACK, UH, BACK IN 2016 WHEN WE WORKED ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS GUTTED IN 2019, UH, BY THE STATE LAW.
THERE WAS SOME, SO, BUT THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
THERE WAS ANOTHER STATE LAW THAT'S NOT EVEN BEING REFERENCED RELATED TO MATERIALS, UH, THAT THE LOBBY WORKED REAL HARD ON THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO GET.
SO YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN NO LONGER REQUIRE, UH, FOUR SIDE MASONRY AND, UH, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, UH, WITHOUT BEING CREATIVE AND CRAFTY.
SO WE HAD IN OUR RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE, ARTICULATION OF DESIGN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FRONT FACADE, FRONT FACING FACADE HAD TO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ARTICULATIONS.
THE GARAGE COULD ONLY BE 25% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE FRONT FACING FACADE.
AND IF IT WAS LARGER, IT HAD TO HAVE THESE ADDITIONAL LAYERS TO IT.
WINDOWS HAD TO HAVE, UM, WINDOW PANES ON THEM.
AND, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF RULES.
UH, STREETS HAD TO BE CURVE OF LINEAR.
THERE HAD TO BE A CONSIDERATION FOR ALLEY LOADED PRODUCT, WHICH IS NOT TO SAY ENTIRELY ALLEY LOADED, BUT A CONSIDERATION FOR HOMOGENY IN THAT WAY.
UH, YOU COULDN'T HAVE BASICALLY JUST A ROW OF ENDLESS HOUSES.
THERE HAD TO BE DIFFERENT SETBACKS AND, AND LOCK WIDTHS AND ALL, ALL DIFFERENT, AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE POCKET PARKS, UH, CURVA, LINEAR STREETS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I SAID THAT, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO DESIGNING NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IT WAS ALL RESIDENTIAL.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND IN 2014 WHEN I BUILT ON I 35, IT WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR FRONT FACING OR FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BRICK AND GLASS AND YOU COULD NOT HAVE OUR PANEL, FOR EXAMPLE.
A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED, BUT NOT ALL.
AND ONE THING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DID BACK, I DON'T KNOW, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, WAS THEY PASSED A LAW THAT SAID, AND IT WAS A, IT WAS AN INCENTIVE.
SO AS OPPOSED TO THINKING OF IT, IT'S JUST, THESE ARE THE RULES, IT WAS, IF YOU WANT THIS, THEN WE WANT THIS.
UH, AND YOU HAVE TO THINK THEN IN TERMS OF WHAT DO DEVELOPERS ACTUALLY WANT, UH, THEY DO WANT DENSITY.
THEY DO WANT, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, THEY DO WANT VERTICALITY OF RESIDENTIAL, AT LEAST IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
AND SO WHAT THEY WOULD DO WAS THEY WOULD TRADE, IF YOU WANT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE BASE LEVEL OF DENSITY THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UH, YOU HAVE TO GET IN, IN THEIR CASE, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THE UNITS HAD TO BE AFFORDABLE.
SO THEY PUT THEIR CARROT INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BASKET, AND WHICH I NEVER REALLY UNDERSTOOD, CUZ IT TOOK UNITS OFF THE TAX ROLLS AND JUST MADE THINGS GENERALLY LESS AFFORDABLE.
UH, BUT I, LIKE, I WHAT THE WAY I SEE IT GOING IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING AND WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD LOVE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEAM TO LOOK AT AND WILL AND OTHERS SAY, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING TO US FOR, UH, R THREE THREE ZONING OR, AND, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE ZONING WHERE THEY WANT A HIGH DEGREE OF RESIDENTIAL.
WHAT WOULD, WHAT COULD WE TRADE FOR THAT, SAY R THREE TWO ZONING IS THE, IS THE HIGHEST WE, WE SHIFT IT AS OPPOSED TO 30 UNITS PER ACRE.
WE DROP IT TO 20 UNITS PER ACRE.
BUT THEN WE ALSO CREATE A, IF YOU WANT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY THAT IS REQUIRED, THEN YOU HAVE TO USE FORESIGHTED MASONRY OR YOU HAVE TO USE, UH, UH, STONE ROOFING AS OPPOSED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, 30 YEAR CONVENTIONAL SHINGLES.
UH, OR YOU HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR TREE CANOPY BY 50% ABOVE THE BASE LEVEL.
UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS NOT THIS, YOU MUST DO, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANNA SEE IN EXCHANGE FOR THE DENSITY, IN WHICH CASE THEY'RE VOLUNTARILY AGREEING, UH, TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE WANNA SET, UH, IN EXCHANGE FOR THE DENSITY, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO MAKE THEIR PROJECTS WORK, THE VIBE TRAIL, YOU KNOW, EXTRA PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, STREET SCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
SO I THINK WHAT THAT'S WHERE THE ALL CART CONVERSATION TO TRY TO BRING IT FULL CIRCLE COMES BACK AROUND AND I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT IN FAVOR OF ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO INCREASE THAT.
I JUST THINK IN TODAY'S STATE LAW, UM, CLIMATE WHERE THE STATE GOVERNMENT HAS MADE IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR CITIES TO REGULATE DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR CITY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE, UH, CREATIVE.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A CARROT ASPECT, NOT JUST A STICK ASPECT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, UH, CUSTOMER RACHEL.
SO WILL, IF YOU HAD TO GUESS, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR A CODE AMENDMENT TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL WAITING PENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE
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MASTER PLAN? THAT IS A, AS IT'S A GRAY AREA FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, FROM A FULL CODE REWRITE, YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ABOUT A YEAR TOTAL.UM, I AM, THERE MAY, THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE SOME OPTIONS WITHIN OUR BUDGET TO SEE IF WE CAN MAYBE OVERLAP THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO, AND BEFORE WE CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU.
I MEAN, I GUESS TO WAIT A YEAR,
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS MEET WITH BURD RIGHT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WE HAVE IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF US.
AND THEN MEET WITH YOU AND GO OVER AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER PERSONALLY OR WHOEVER ELSE YOU THINK, UM, WOULD BENEFIT FROM THAT MEETING.
UM, AND GO OVER ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT TOOLS YOU HAVE IN YOUR TOOLBOX NOW AND WHAT WE CAN GET WORKING ON NOW.
CAN YOU BRING THAT BACK TO COUNSEL? YES, MA'AM.
DO WE NEED A, A MOTION FOR THAT? MM-HMM.
ALSO, PAIGE, I, I JUST PULLED UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONE THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE COULD WORK WITH THAT AS WELL.
SO CAN WE SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD.
I'VE ALREADY EMAILED STAFF ABOUT WONDERFUL BEING ON OUR LIST.
SO NO MOTION NEEDED, BUT EVERYBODY'S ALREADY DOING AN AMAZING JOB.
AND, AND I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES IN THE STATE CUZ I THINK THIS CONVERSATION IS BEING REPEATED THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF TEXAS IN EVERY JURISDICTION AND CITY.
YOU KNOW, I THINK I DROVE THROUGH DRIPPING SPRINGS THE OTHER DAY AND THEY'VE GOT A WATER BURGER.
WATER BURGER HAS A VERY STANDARD ICONIC SET OF DESIGNS, BUT NOT THE ONE IN DRIPPING SPRINGS.
BECAUSE DRIPPING SPRINGS DIDN'T ALLOW FOR IT.
BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS, THE STATE LAW, VERY INTENTIONALLY STRIPPED FROM THEM.
SO IT'S, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DID DRIPPING SPRINGS DO TO GET THERE? AND CAN THEY STILL DO IT? AND IF THE ANSWER IS YES, YOU KNOW HOW, AND THEN CAN WE, WAIT, WAIT, MAYOR.
I GUESS SO NO MOTIONS MADE IT.
UH, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA WRITE ONE OUT, BUT I GUESS WE GOT DIRECTION.
BUT THAT, I GUESS THAT ALSO WOULD INCLUDE IF YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL THE NON-CONFORMING AND ALL THE CBD ONE AND TWO ORDINANCES.
CUZ YOU WANNA COMBINE IT ALL TOGETHER.
IF YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT ALL THAT AND THE, THE DESIGN CONCEPTS OF, CUZ YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE BIG PICTURE.
IF WE'RE GONNA SAY, THIS IS THE DESIGN WE'RE GOING WITH, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE ALREADY HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DISSECT SOME OF OUR OLD DINOSAUR, UH, ORDINANCES TO, TO GO ALONG WITH WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS TALKING ABOUT.
UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DESIGN, RIGHT.
AND ALSO THE BRICK LAYOUT AND SO FORTH.
BUT, UH, TO EVERYBODY'S POINT ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANT MORE GREEN SPACE, THIS, WE WANT MORE, YOU KNOW, TREES AND WE WANT MORE BUSHES WHEN WE GO TO RESTAURANTS AND STUFF.
I LOOK AT IT, IT, IT'S ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND IT'S ALSO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BUSINESS OWNER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT'S GONNA COME IN AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA PUT IN ALL THESE BIG TREES AND WE'RE GONNA PUT ALL THESE SHRUBBERY.
BUT TWO YEARS LATER, IF THEY'RE NOT WATERING THEIR GRASS OR THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR BRUSH, WHEN YOU STAND IN LINE AT THE, AT THE STORE OR YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU SEE THIS OVERGROWN BUSH OR YOU SEE THIS TREE THAT'S JUST DEAD.
UM, I CAN LOOK AROUND KYLE DOWNTOWN, THERE'S A COUPLE OF 'EM HERE.
I KNOW THIS CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON THEM.
AND I CAN TELL YOU ONES BY THE HIGHWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE NEED TO LOOK AT AS WELL.
SO NOT ONLY WE TALK ABOUT GOLD STANDARD, BUT LET'S MAYBE ALSO INCLUDE IDENTIFYING WHAT GOLD STANDARDS ARE WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGNING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BUILDINGS AND, AND THE UPKEEP.
CUZ WE CAN HAVE A DEVELOPER COME IN AND PUT ALL THIS FANCY NICE LANDSCAPE, BUT IF THE BUSINESS OWNER OR THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE CARE OF IT, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE ALSO THE PROBLEM.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM, FROM THAT POINT.
WELL, I, I WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I WAS LOOKING AT IT FROM THE LANDSCAPING DESIGN BEING BETTER FOR THESE QUICK RETAIL CHAINS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE CITY, GETTING MORE, UH, LANDSCAPING AROUND THOSE PARKING LOTS OR THE DRIVE-THROUGH.
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LET'S NOT LEAVE THAT OUT.I KNOW WE WANNA FOCUS ON THE HOMES, THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE PARKS, BUT IT'S ALSO AN EYESORE TO SEE, UM, A LOT OF CONCRETE EVERYWHERE.
UM, WE'VE GOT FIVE, SIX RESTAURANTS ALL IN SEQUENCE AND THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ANY, ANY GREENERY IN THROUGH 'EM.
SO AS THEY'RE COMING IN, CAN WE MAKE OUR CITY MORE APPEALING, MORE BEAUTIFUL IN THAT ASPECT AS WELL? I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT.
WELL, I WASN'T SURE IF Y'ALL, IF NO, NOT IF Y'ALL GOT THE POINT THAT, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S AN EMPHASIS TOO.
WE PASSED OUR FIRST LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE IN 2014 AND THEN I THINK, UH, OR MAYBE A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT, MAYBE WE AMENDED IT IN 2014 AND THEN WE PASSED ANOTHER ONE, I THINK IT WAS CREATED, CREATED IN 2014.
SO LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE WALMART IN MY HOMETOWN, THE PARKING LOT FROM ONE END OF THE MM-HMM.
AND SO WE REQUIRE TREES PER LOT AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THE LANDSCAPING OR ORDINANCES.
BUT TO YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT THE SPACING OF 50 FEET, RIGHT.
WE DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT IT DOESN'T IMPINGE ON THE IDEA OF THE, THE PARKING RATIOS AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UH, IF WE DO EDIT THINGS AND MAKE, MAKE IT MORE LANDSCAPING, IF YOU WILL, THAT IT, IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY CONFLICT WITH OTHER REGULATIONS AS WELL.
SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD TOO.
BUT, SO THAT CUTS FOR FORCE CAMP.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, BUT IT DRIVES ME NUTS WHEN I GO TO ROSS IN THOSE BIG RETAIL AREAS AND YOU SEE THEIR, UM, WATERING MECHANISMS LIKE OUT OF THE DIRT.
LIKE, CAN, CAN WE GET THEM TO LIKE GO PUT DIRT OVER IT? THAT'S SO YOU'RE NOT, OH, IS THAT CO OH, CAN WE GET THEM TO DO THAT? WELL THAT'S COOL.
OH, BECAUSE LIKE YOU COULD TRIP AND FALL OVER IT.
LIKE, I, I JUST THINK IT'S UGLY, BUT TO LEGITIMIZE IT, IT'S, YOU CAN SEE, OH THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TOO, THEY'RE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? AND IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS FOR ME, IT LOOKS BAD, BUT MAYBE, I THINK AS A CITY WE TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY AND WE SAY, OKAY, MAYBE WE DON'T REQUIRE THESE BIG TREES, BUT MORE NATIVE PLANTS OR MAYBE, UM, LANDSCAPING THAT MAKES SENSE.
LIKE ROCKS OR SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T CONSUME A LOT OF WATER.
CUZ I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT YET THAT WE CAN USE RECLAIMED WATER.
I THINK THE MUELLER HAS THAT GREAT IDEA AND FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT TO, TO CONTINUE TO USE IT.
BUT FOR NOW, I THINK MORE NATIVE PLANTS OR, UM, NO, ESCAPING, I THINK IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLED, UH, WHERE YOU JUST USE A LOT OF ROCKS OR A LOT OF ALTERNATIVE, UM, LANDSCAPING.
COSTCO'S PARKING LOT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD FOR THAT EXACT SAME THING.
I WAS GONNA SAY SAM'S CLUB IN SOUTH PARK MEADOWS NOW PUT, UM, THAT FAKE GRASS, I KEEP FORGETTING THE NAME OF IT.
AND HE LOOKS PRETTY WELL SCREEN.
THEY JUST PUT THE CO IN COSTCO, YOU SHOULD LOOK AT IT.
AND IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY CONSCIOUS OF WATER USAGE BY MY EYES AT LEAST.
SO, WELL IN THAT CASE, CAN WE GET CODE ENFORCEMENT TO LOOK AT IT? THAT'D BE GREAT.
YOU WANT ME TO WALK OVER THERE? YEAH.
SHOULD WE LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER TO GO OVER THERE? MM-HMM.
AND, AND ALSO WHAT ABOUT THE BIG DIVOTS IN THE, UM, PARKING LOTS? UM, I KNOW OFF OF ONE 50 THERE, THERE'S LIKE A DOLLAR GENERAL AND THEY HAVE THE WORST PARKING LOTS.
AND I GO THERE EVERY TIME, I'M LIKE, WELL, I DON'T GET NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
SO I GO THERE AND LITERALLY YOU CAN, LIKE, THERE'S A DROP OFF TOO, AND THERE'S HOUSES RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO, TO AT LEAST MAKE THE PARKING LOTS LOOK PRESENTABLE AND SAFE? SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE WITH PD, UM, RELATED TO, UM, ADEQUATE RESOURCES IN TERMS OF, AND I'M TALKING INTERNALLY PLANNING AND PD FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, I'M, I BELIEVE, BUT I'M NOT FOR CERTAIN THAT WE'VE ADOPTED THE, UH, NATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.
UM, BUT, UM, AND WE JUST NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THEM ON THAT AND JUST MAKE SURE, BECAUSE PD IS THE, IN THE ENFORCEMENT ARM WITH OUR OFFICERS, SO.
[23. Discussion and possible action regarding the Kyle City Council retaining an employment attorney to include but not limited to the following work: employment discussions, research, drafting and finalizing the contract of the future city manager. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23, DISCUSSION OF, OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, UH, KYLE CITY COUNCIL, RETAINING AN EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING WORK, EMPLOYMENT DISCUSSIONS, RESEARCH, DRAFTING AND FINALIZING THE CONTRACT OF THE FUTURE CITY MANAGER CUSTOMER FORCE, KALE.UH, MARCH 3RD, UH, COUNCIL RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM AIAN, WHICH IS THE COMPANY THAT WE UTILIZE TO HIRE, UH, TO HELP HIRE OUR CITY MANAGER.
IN PREPPING FOR THE EMPLOYMENT OF OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, I WANTED TO DISCUSS, UM, OPTIONS TO TEMPORARY, NOT JUST PROJECT BASED, MEANING FOR JUST THIS, UM, AN ATTORNEY, AN EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY, UM, THAT COULD HELP US CREATE, UM, UH, AN AGREEMENT THAT I THINK, UH, WILL PROTECT
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US.UH, IF IT'S ONE THING I GOTTA KICK BACK ON, IT WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE UPSET AT THE LAST SITUATION.
SO TO PROTECT OURSELVES MOVING FORWARD, WE WANNA MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, A SOLID AGREEMENT THAT'S FAIR TO BOTH SIDES.
UM, AND SO I WANTED TO OPEN THIS UP TO THAT DISCUSSION.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MAYOR PRO TIM? UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, IN MY OPINION, UM, A GOOD IDEA, AND THIS IS WHY, NUMBER ONE, WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE HOPEFULLY INTERVIEWING, UH, POSSIBLE CANDIDATES VERY SOON WITH THIS ATTORNEY, EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY, THEY COULD SPECIALIZE IN HELPING WRITING A MORE MODERN AND CURRENT CONTRACT THAT COULD BE, UM, THAT COULD HELP US, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, WE'RE NOT ONLY THE CITY'S PROTECTED, BUT ALSO THE EMPLOYEE ITSELF.
SO, UM, BY HIRING SOMEBODY LIKE THIS, UH, AN ATTORNEY AND IN ACTUAL, THAT'S SPECIFIED IN CURRENT EMPLOYEE LAWS AND CURRENT AND IN ALL, UH, ASPECTS ON THAT END, UH, I JUST FEEL IT WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IN THAT END IF WE, WE LOOK AT POSSIBLE LOOKING AT THOSE ALTERNATIVES.
UM, IT'S ANY DAY NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA BE START INTERVIEWING FOR, UM, THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, THINK WE, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY UPDATE AS FAR AS BY CHANCE WHEN WE'RE GONNA GET SOME OF THOSE APPLICANTS, UM, INTERVIEWED OR THAT WAY WE CAN BE AHEAD OF THE GAME AND HAVE IT IN PLACE.
THE, THE LAST UPDATE I SAW IS THAT THEY HAD NARROWED THE LIST DOWN TO 26 APPLICANTS, AND THEY WERE VETTING THOSE FURTHER TO GET DOWN TO SIX OR EIGHT.
SO ONCE WE GET TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE'RE DOWN TO OUR, MAYBE OUR TOP 10, WE WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY IN PLACE TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN WRITE OR LOOK INTO, UM, CONTRACTS THAT CAN, THAT CAN HELP US BENEFIT FROM THAT.
UH, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT THAT'S JUST MY FEELING ON THAT.
UM, AN ACTUAL EMPLOYEE, UH, UH, ATTORNEY THAT DEALS WITH, UM, WITH WRITING OUT THOSE TYPES OF CONTRACTS.
WELL, MY ONLY THOUGHT TO THAT WAS THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER CONTRACTS ARE VERY SPECIFIC TYPES OF EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS, AND I WANTED TO ALLOW PAIGE TO GIVE HER THOUGHTS ON IT AS WELL AS TO DISCUSS HER EXPERIENCE AND HER FIRM'S EXPERIENCE DRAFTING THOSE CONTRACTS AS WELL AS TO MAYBE SPEAK INTO THE, UM, PREVIOUS SITUATION AND TALK ABOUT HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A CONTRACT THAT'S REALLY WELL FLESHED OUT BASED ON COUNCIL'S DESIRES.
AND CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.
UH, SO WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY MANAGER CONTRACT, I, I HAVE PERSONALLY WORKED ON, UH, MULTIPLE CITY MANAGER CONTRACTS, BOTH ORIGINAL AND AMENDMENTS.
UM, WHAT I HAVE FOUND THAT WORKS BEST WITH RESPECT TO A CITY MANAGER CONTRACT IS THAT IF THE COUNCIL HAS A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT OF COUNCIL THAT'S INVOLVED IN, IN DETERMINING WHAT TERMS ARE, ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL, UM, AND THAT THAT SUBCOMMITTEE ENGAGES WITH, WITH COMING TO A FINAL AGREEMENT THAT REFLECTS WHAT THE COUNCIL WISHES AND THEN WHAT THE, WHAT THE CITY MANAGER ULTIMATELY WISHES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF CITY MANAGER CONTRACTS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE WORLD.
UM, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THAT COULD BE USED AND GIVEN TO THE COUNCIL SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE ARE.
UM, TMA, FOR EXAMPLE, PUTS OUT A CERTAIN FORM OF CONTRACT THAT, UH, HAS TERMS THAT ARE, UH, THAT THE CITY MANAGERS OFTEN BRING TO THE TABLE, BUT, UM, COUNCILS OFTEN ADOPT DOCUMENTS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM THAT BECAUSE THEY SERVE THE COUNCIL BETTER.
UM, AND C AND CITIES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THEIR PRIOR EXPERIENCES WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONTRACTS WHEN THEY ENGAGE IN CONTRACTING WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE BEST OUTCOME FOR THE PARTIES IS WHEN THERE'S, THERE'S A SUBCOMMITTEE WHO'S TIED INTO WHAT TERMS ARE, ARE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY, AND THERE'S REAL CLEAR COMMUNICATION ON WHAT THOSE TERMS SHOULD BE, AND THEN THAT RESULTS IN A GOOD CONTRACT FOR EVERYBODY, AND THAT YOU'VE GOT TIME TO ALSO
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ENGAGE STAFF BECAUSE THERE ARE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT THAT, UH, REQUIRE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE AND WHAT THE, WHAT THE, WHAT WOULD WORK WITH WITHIN THE CITY'S CURRENT BENEFIT STRUCTURE.AND STAFF WILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW YOU IMPLEMENT THAT.
SO, UH, TH THAT'S MY FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE ON THIS, ON THIS ISSUE, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT.
I, I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT, UM, IS, IS IS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE FORM OF AGREEMENT OR HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT TERMS ARE, UH, ACCEPTABLE TO THE COUNCIL AND, AND HAVE MAYBE THE FORM OF AGREEMENT SOMEWHAT IDENTIFIED BEFORE YOU GET TO THE POINT OF NEGOTIATION BECAUSE THEN, UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO, UM, CLEARLY COMMUNICATE WITH THE APPLICANT WHAT, WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE AS FAR AS THE CONTRACTING GOES.
AND THAT CAN HELP, UM, THE APPLICANT HAVE A GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH THE NEGOTIATING PROCESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE THE INTERVIEWING PROCESS IS GOING BOTH WAYS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND YOU'VE GOT, UM, HAVING A, A SMOOTH CONTRACTING PROCESS AS PART OF THAT.
BECAUSE IF YOU SELECT A CANDIDATE, GET DOWN TO A FINAL CANDIDATE, YOU STILL HAVE TO GET TO TERMS AND WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AND THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THAT PROCESS.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE THOSE TERMS IDENTIFIED AND YOU CAN BRING YOUR CONTRACT TO THE TABLE, THAT WILL HELP THEM MAKE THAT PROCESS SMOOTHER.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TERMS, UH, I THINK WHAT, UM, AN IDEA WOULD BE IS TO NOT ONLY JUST LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL TERMS OF SALARY BENEFITS AND ALL THAT, BUT ALSO GOALS THAT THIS PERSON WOULD WANNA SET FOR THE CITY.
UH, ANY KIND OF YEARLY REVIEWS, UH, OR UM, UM, KIND OF TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT, NOT JUST ON THE PERSONNEL ISSUE AS FAR AS LIKE WHERE YOU'RE AT PERSONALLY, BUT AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE MOVING THE CITY ALONG, THAT COULD BE LISTED IN THE CONTRACT AS WELL.
UH, LONG-TERM GOALS AS WELL AND, AND, AND NOT JUST SO MUCH FOCUS SO MUCH ON THE COMPENSATION OR JUST THE, UM, THE DEMEANOR OR THE BEHAVIORS OF THE PERSON ITSELF, BUT JUST REALLY BREAK IT DOWN TO SAY EVERY YEAR YOU'RE GONNA GET A REVIEW BY COUNCIL JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS OUR GOALS WE'RE MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT AND SO FORTH.
ON THAT END, IT'S, IT'S TO HELP WRITING OUT A CONTRACT TO WHERE THOSE TERMS AND THOSE, UM, THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE IS, IS ADDED IN AS WELL.
UM, UH, CUZ WE DON'T WANT TO JUST COME ACROSS AND SAY THIS, WE DON'T DO THIS.
THIS IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING IN THE, THE RIGHT PERSON TO WHERE THE PERSON CAN BE ABLE TO MAKE HIS CAREER OR HER CAREER A SUCCESS HERE.
SO IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE CONTRACT IN LINE, UM, ADDS UP TO ALL OF THAT AS WELL.
SO WHEN YOU'RE ASKING, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING A SUBCOMMITTEE, ARE WE LOOKING AT LIKE DESIGNING, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA USE THE T WORDER A TASK FORCE? I'M, I'M, YES.
OR A AND THAT, THAT, THAT'S AN OPTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S JUST HAVING THAT SET UP ALREADY, LIKE, LIKE GETTING, GETTING READY CUZ THE, THE TIME'S GONNA COME EVENTUALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START HAVING, UM, INTERVIEWS WITH, WITH APPLICANTS AND, UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE CITY COUNCIL WANTING FROM ME? AND SO WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THOSE GOALS IDENTIFIED AS WELL.
BUT I THINK ON HERE IT IS, THE CONTRACT IS JUST TO, TO SET A PERIMETER OF, AGAIN, NOT SO MUCH THE COMPENSATION, BUT THE OVERALL GOALS OF WHAT THIS PERSON WILL BRING AND THE EXPECTATIONS WE HAVE.
AND IT'S, AND IT'S WRITTEN DOWN.
SO THE, THE QUESTION BEFORE IS BASED ON CUSTOMER ENFORCE KEL ITEM, DO WE WANT TO, UH, HIRE A NEW ATTORNEY TO TAKE US THROUGH THIS PROCESS? OR ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THE NIGHT LAW FIRM BEING THE ATTORNEY THAT WE USE TO, UH, GO THROUGH THIS? AND IF THE ANSWER IS TO HIRE NEW ATTORNEY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ISSUE AN RFQ.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO INTERVIEWS FOR THAT ATTORNEY, UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, MAKE THAT HIGHER AND MANAGE THAT PROCESS AS WELL.
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RIGHT.UM, YEAH, THAT WAS KIND OF MY HOPE IS THAT WE COULD DO AN RFQ, UM, AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I LAW FIRM IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO APPLY.
I THINK JUST OPENING IT UP, I THINK AS A CITY WE'RE, WE'RE GROWING TO THE EXTENT WHERE WE NEED TO KIND OF EXPAND OURSELVES AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, INCLUDE NEW SET OF EYES.
AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR US MOVING FORWARD TO GET A CITY MANAGER.
UM, AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE FEEL CONFIDENT AND, AND THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT I THINK THERE IS, BUT NO BIAS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND SO FOR ME TO OBTAIN THAT, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE TO PUT AN RFQ OUT BECAUSE THOSE ARE FREE, RIGHT? OR DO WE PAY FOR RFQ? I IMAGINE THEY'RE FREE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT TO JUST OBTAIN ONE AND SEE WHAT WE GET BACK AND THEN JUST COMPARE IT FROM THERE.
UM, AS FAR AS A TASK FORCE, I GET, I GET A LITTLE NERVOUS.
UM, THE REASON WHY I FEEL LIKE WE NEED THIS ATTORNEY IS BECAUSE WE NEED GUIDANCE.
AND SO WE CAN SIT HERE ALL DAY AND, AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN A CITY MANAGER, BUT THERE'S A MILLION THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA OVERLOOK BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ATTORNEYS AND, AND WE ARE NOT EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEYS AT THAT.
AND SO EVEN I, WHO I, I WOULD LOVE TO GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE JUST GOING AND SAYING THIS IS THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
I THINK WE NEED THAT GUIDANCE FROM AN ATTORNEY.
UM, AND THAT'S ONLY GONNA BENEFIT THE, THE RESIDENTS.
UM, THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT CONTRACT AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND, AND MONEY TOWARDS THIS BECAUSE MY HOPE IS THIS IS GONNA BE SOMEBODY THAT WE HIRE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT WE WILL GET BETTER SERVICES BY HIRING SOMEBODY NEW THAN WITH THE KNIGHT LAW FIRM ON THIS CASE.
I THINK THE KNIGHT LAW FIRM HAS, DI HAS, UH, A VERY LONG HISTORY OF NEGOTIATING, UH, CITY MANAGER CONTRACTS THROUGHOUT MULTIPLE CITIES AND IS EXTREMELY WELL VERSED ON THE VARIOUS, UH, UH, SKILLS THAT A CITY MANAGER AND MANEUVERS THAT A CITY MANAGER MAY COME TO, UH, THE CITY WITH.
SO, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE TAKING ANY STEPS FORWARD, UH, BY GOING AFTER THAT, BUT IT'S TO THE, IF WE WANT TO GO, GO DOWN THAT PROCESS OF HIRING A, AN EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY FOR THIS, THEN WE CAN GO DOWN THAT PROCESS.
YEAH, JUST MY ONLY THOUGHTS ARE I THOUGHT, WELL, IT WASN'T DOUBT THE PURPOSE OF AON TO SEARCH FOR THE CANDIDATE.
AND AREN'T THEY SUPPOSED TO HELP DRAFT COMPENSATION OR NO, THEY'RE INTERVIEWING AND BRINGING APPLICANTS TO US.
IT'S OUR JOB TO NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF A CONTRACT, BUT IT'S AN ATTORNEY'S JOB TO REVIEW THOSE TERMS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE AGREEMENT IS BEING ACCOMPLISHED.
SO I, I HAD GOT THE IMPRESSION THERE WAS ALREADY AN EXPECTATION OF A SALARY RANGE, RIGHT.
BUT THAT, WHETHER THERE'S NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN EXPECTATION YET.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
THOSE, THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL BE HAD BASED ON THE EXPERIENCE OF THE CITY MANAGER.
THAT, OR THE COMPARABLE OR WHATEVER.
THERE'S A WHOLE PROCESS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO FOR ME, IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN, UH, A CASE THAT OUR ATTORNEY IS INSUFFICIENTLY CAPABLE AND THAT OUR LAW FIRM IS VERY UNIQUELY SKILLED IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
AND THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE VALID RELATED TO THE LAST EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT THAT, UH, THAT WE PASSED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, WE CAN HAVE THAT, WE CAN HAVE THAT DEBATE AS WELL IF WE WANT, BUT COUNCIL, HE CAN I JUST GET SOME CLARIFICATION? IS YOUR INTENTION HERE JUST TO, THAT YOU WANT TO OPEN DIALOGUE FOR A NEW ATTORNEY FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR EMPLOYMENT MATTERS ONLY OR JUST, JUST FOR THIS.
OKAY, SO THIS IS LEAVING ASIDE OTHER CITY RELATED MATTERS.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD.
SO I AM, UM, I THINK WE JUST HAVE LIKE THIS, A VERY SOUR TASTE IN THE MOUTH BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT JUST MAKES US MORE PREPARED.
WHAT I DON'T WANT IS TO GO THROUGH AN RFQ AND THEN MAYBE, PROBABLY GET A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN ORDER TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY FOR THIS AND POSSIBLY EXTENDING THE TIME THAT IT WILL TAKE TO GET A CITY MANAGER.
OF COURSE, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T GUARANTEE WE'RE GONNA GET THE RIGHT CONTRACT EITHER.
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SO I DON'T KNOW.IT'S, IT'S A TRICKY, I I'M KIND OF LEANING MORE NOW TOWARDS MAYBE HAVING A TASK FORCE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS ARE, BUT I DON'T WANNA DELAY THE PROCESS.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HAD A C UM, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER.
SO, I MEAN, I KNOW WE, WE HAVE JERRY, BUT WELL, AS IT RELATES TO THE LAST CONTRACT, THERE'S PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND TO PIN IT ALL AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD BE REALLY WRONG.
SO WE ALL VOTED ON AND NEGOTIATED THAT, UH, AGREEMENT AND THOSE CLAUSES WERE IN THERE AND, YOU KNOW, SO CUSTOMER FORCE KILL.
OKAY, WELL, LET ME START WITH I, AND I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I, I, WE DESERVE TO SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE AND RFQ WILL HURT NOBODY.
AND, AND THE LAW NIGHT LAW FIRM IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION FOR THAT OR THEIR, THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
MAYBE THEY ARE THE ONE I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT'S ALL WE KNOW RIGHT NOW.
I I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO, AND, AND THEY'RE ALREADY BUSY.
THERE'S BEEN DELAYS IN, IN, IN AGREEMENTS AND IN CONTRACTS BECAUSE WE ARE A GROWING CITY.
I DO NOT WANT THERE TO BE A DELAY IN, IN THE CITY MANAGER AGREEMENT.
AND SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PLACE AN RFQ FOR AN EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY WITH EXPERIENCE IN CITY MANAGEMENT.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO.
TIM, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT? MOTION? COUNCIL HEISER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, IF WE OPEN THIS CAN OF WORMS ARE, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS POSSIBLY DELAYING OUR ABILITY TO HIRE A CITY MANAGER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS RFQ PROCESS IN THE VETTING OF HIRING A NEW ATTORNEY BEFORE WE CAN GET CONTRACTUAL TERMS IN PLACE WITH A NEW CITY MANAGER.
AND I GUESS IF THAT'S THE CASE, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? UM, LEMME AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I, AS YOU KNOW, I WASN'T HERE FOR ANY OF THE, THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT ABOUT THIS DISCUSSION.
SO, OKAY, I WANNA PREFACE, I DO NOT FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CAN OF WORMS AT ALL.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS MEANT TO BE.
I'M TRYING TO BE FOR EXPRESSION.
YEAH, I'M TRYING TO BE RESPONSIBLE HERE.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA DELAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY K NOTHING IN FRONT OF US.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANY OF THE, UM, OF THE APPLICANTS.
WE ARE, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO DO IT NOW RATHER THAN LATER.
NOW, IF WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING AND MOVING ALONG, I CAN KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS GET IN FRONT OF IT.
AND THIS RFQ DOESN'T EVEN MEAN WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA USE SOMEBODY ELSE.
IT MEANS WE ARE GONNA EDUCATE OURSELF ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WE, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE AND THAT WE HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION GOING FORWARD TO, TO KNOW THAT THIS IS THE PERSON WE WANT TO USE TO MAKE THE AGREEMENT.
IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL, IT'S STRICTLY BUSINESS.
WHAT IS STATE LAW OR WHAT IS THE RULE ON RFQ? S HOW LONG THEY HAVE TO BE POSTED FOR.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A RULE FOR RFQ, SO YOU COULD HAVE IT JUST FOR A WEEK.
IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE CITY ON THAT ISSUE.
UM, JUST ANOTHER PROCESS QUESTION.
WHO DETERMINES WHO WE HIRE? LIKE HOW DOES THAT, HOW IS THAT PROCESS GONNA WORK? ARE WE SETTING MEETINGS FOR THAT? ARE THERE GONNA BE INTERVIEWS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER? LIKE THERE'S JUST A LOT OF UNKNOWNS.
I'M NOT, I DON'T HATE THE IDEA.
I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ONE OF THE SAME.
SO HIRING AN ATTORNEY TO CREATE AN EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
TO INTERVIEW THE ATTORNEY, WHICH WE WILL THEN HIRE.
I MEAN, WE COULD ONLY, WE WOULD ONLY KNOW THAT ONCE WE GET THE RESPONSES BACK FROM THE RFQ AND, AND IF WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME AND THE LAW NIGHT LAW FIRM DID APPLY AND WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THEM, THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOSE NOTHING.
OKAY, ARBITRARY NUMBER, BUT A MONTH, A MONTH COMES BACK, WE GET 10 CANDIDATES.
THEN WHAT HAPPENS? THEN WE DECIDE IF WE, WHO WE'RE GONNA GO WITH HOW COLLECTIVELY THERE'S SEVEN OF US.
SO WE WOULD VOTE AND THE MAJORITY OF THAT WOULD BE FOUR.
ARE WE MEETING WITH THESE ATTORNEYS? WHO IS LIKE THIS? PROBABLY IF THERE'S 10, WHAT IS HAPPENING? WELL, THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR ME, IT WOULD BE LIKE, IT WOULD BE, WE HAVE 10 INTERVIEW, WE'RE 10 APPLICANTS.
WE NARROW IT DOWN TO THE TOP THREE OR FOUR, AND THEN COLLECTIVELY WE GET TOGETHER AND WE CHOOSE.
ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S TAKE THE 30 DAY NUMBER.
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ON APRIL THE FOURTH.THE RFQ THEN IS OPEN UNTIL MAY THE FOURTH.
UH, WE GET OUR CANDIDATES ON MAY THE FOURTH IS, UH, SO WE GET OUR FIRST CANDIDATES AND WE'D BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THEM ON MAY THE 18TH, UH, MAKE THAT HIGHER.
AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE THEY'RE FULLY HI FULLY HIRED AND RETAINED THE LAST WEEK, UH, IN MAY, WHICH IS ABOUT FOUR WEEKS PAST WHEN I HOPE WE HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER HIRED.
YEAH, LET'S JUST CUT THAT IN HALF TO 30 DAYS.
SO HOW, HOW ARE WE GOING ABOUT, UH, BEING TRANSPARENT IN GETTING LOTS OF PEOPLE AND GETTING THE WORD OUT AND ALL OF THAT? WE SAID WE JUST QUICK.
SO WHAT'S THE GOAL HERE? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BY LIKE, WHAT SOUNDS LIKE THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO REPLACE THE, OUR ATTORNEY WITH SOMEONE ELSE IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS? AND WE'RE GONNA RUSH THAT THROUGH.
SO, AND HIRE SOMEBODY WHO WE DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, UH, VERY DISCRIMINATORY AND, UH, THAT YOU USE THOSE NEGATIVE TERMINOLOGY WORDS WHEN THAT IS NOT AT ALL WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND I'M NOT TAKING THIS PERSONALLY.
THIS IS NOT, LET'S REPLACE OUR CITY MANAGER OR NO, OUR CITY ATTORNEY FULL-TIME.
THIS IS A ONE PROJECT ISSUE, WHICH I THINK DESERVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE BEST CONTRACT THAT WE COULD, WE COULD BRING TO OUR RESIDENTS FOR THE NEXT X AMOUNT OF YEARS.
PAIGE, UH, JUST JUST WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE ALSO IS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE THAT WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER FIRMS THAT HAVE SOME, THAT HAVE LINES OF SPECIALTY THAT WE REACH INTO AND WE BRING THE BENEFIT OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS TO THE COUNCIL IN OUR CONSULTATION AS A, AS YOUR CD ATTORNEY.
AND SO WE CAN, SO THAT YOU DON'T LOSE TIME, WE CAN USE THAT IF THE COUNCIL WISHES.
ALL RIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO BRING BACK AN RF Q.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, VOTE TOBIK.
[24. Discussion and possible action to host the "First Annual City of Kyle Gingerbread House Contest". ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]
RIGHT.UH, AGENDA ITEM 24, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO HOST THE FIRST ANNUAL CITY OF COLLEGE GENDERBREAD HOUSE CONTEST.
PARTIALLY, NOW I'M DEPRESSED,
UM, ALL RIGHT, SO I DUNNO IF GRANT CAN PUT THE PRESENTATION UP.
UM, I KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS, SO LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK.
UM, I'M PRETTY SURE NOT ALL OF YOU KNOW ME FROM THE PAST.
UM, BUT I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT CHRISTMAS AND BEFORE JOINING COUNCIL, RIGHT AFTER MOVING TO KYLE, UM, I JOINED THE RECREATION COMMITTEE FOR PLUM CREEK.
AND I HAVE ORGANIZED THEIR CHRISTMAS BAAR FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE BECAUSE I THINK IT BRINGS PEOPLE TOGETHER.
SO, UM, I ALSO HOST A COOKIE EXCHANGE PARTY WITH MY NEIGHBORS EVERY YEAR, UM, AND THE LAST COOKIE EXCHANGE.
AND I ALWAYS BRING GINGERBREAD COOKIES, UM, GINGERBREAD PEOPLE.
ANYWAY, UM, ONE OF MY FRIENDS ACTUALLY SUGGESTED, UH, FOR THE CITY OF KYLE TO HOST A GINGERBREAD HOUSE COMPETITION.
SO I AM, THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, UM, HOSTING THE FIRST GINGERBREAD HOUSE COMPETITION FOR THE, FOR THE CITY.
UM, SO IDEALLY, THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT I AM SUGGESTION.
UM, WE WILL HAVE KIDS 12 AND UNDER TEENS, 13 TO 18, ADULTS FAMILIES, TWO TO SIX MEMBERS MAYBE.
BUSINESSES WANT TO GET INVOLVED.
AND THE JUDGING WILL BE DONE IN OVERALL APPEARANCE, ORIGINALITY, CRAFTMANSHIP THEME.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE A CHOICE FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE ON THEIR FAVORITE HOUSES.
UM, THESE ARE THE PROPOSED ENTRY DATES, AND I HAVE GONE OVER THIS THROUGH, UM, I'VE TALKED TO PARKS AND RECS ABOUT THEM, AND THEY BELIEVE THAT MAY BE SIGNING UP BY NOVEMBER 1ST.
UH, SUBMIT THE ENTRIES ON NOVEMBER 29TH AND HAVE THEM DISPLAY UNTIL DECEMBER.
THE FIRST VOTES WILL TAKE PLACE ON DECEMBER 1ST, AND THE WINNERS WILL BE ANNOUNCED DURING THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY.
THE HOUSES WILL REMAIN ON DISPLAY AT THE CREEK CENTER.
UH, SO RESIDENTS CAN CAST THEIR VOTES THE AFTERNOON OF DECEMBER 1ST FOR THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE CATEGORY AND CONTEST STANDS
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WILL NEED TO PICK UP THEIR ENTRIES AFTER THE CONTEST HAS CONCLUDED.UM, FOR THE JUDGING PANEL, I AM SUGGESTING THAT WE PICK A LOCAL PROFESSIONAL BAKER AND DECORATOR, MAYBE A MEMBER OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR OR GINGERBREAD HOUSE OWNER, CHRISTINE LILLY.
SHE'S THE ONE WHO HAD THE GINGERBREAD HOUSE HERE IN KYLE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE GRINCH SINCE HE HAS BEEN, UM, QUITE FAMOUS OVER THE LAST, UH, CHRISTMAS SEASON.
THE RULES THAT I LIKE TO SUGGEST THIS FOR ONLY EDIBLE ITEMS TO BE USED ABOVE THE BASE OF THE ENTRY.
UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO JUST THE COOKIE, BUT YOU CAN ADD CANDIES, ICING, GUM PASTE, FONDANT, CHOCOLATE, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, THE GINGERBREAD DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NECESSARILY A HOUSE, IT CAN BE A TRAIN STATION.
I EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE DOING THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF.
UM, YOU CAN ADD BATTERY OPERATED, UM, ELECTRICAL LIGHTING TO YOUR HOUSE.
UM, YOUR BASE DOES HAVE TO BE OF STORY MATERIAL LIKE PLYWOOD OR CARDBOARD OR CARDBOARD, AND NOT BE OVER 18 BY 18 AND HAVE A MAXIMUM HIGH OF 22 INCHES.
UM, THE GINGERBREAD KIDS WILL ONLY BE ALLOWED FOR THE KIDS 12 AND UNDER CATEGORY.
UM, I'M THINKING MAYBE FIRST PLA PLACE GETS A GOLD MEDAL AND A HUNDRED DOLLARS, SECOND PLACE GETS A SILVER AND 50, AND THIRD PLACE GETS A BRONZE MEDAL.
AND 25, UM, ALL OF THE CATEGORIES WILL HAVE A CERTIFICATE, UM, OF PARTICIPATION, UM, FROM THE CITY OF KYLE, AND SO WILL THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE OPTION.
UM, I AM PROPOSING PRICES THAT ARE NOT HIGH IN MONETARY AMOUNT.
IF THE PRICE OPTION SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO, UH, PAY FOR THIS MYSELF.
I KNOW THE MEDALS ARE PROBABLY ABOUT $5 EACH AND ETSY.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD, UH, SPONSOR.
I AM HAPPY TO INVOLVE BUSINESSES TO MAKE DONATIONS TO THE PRICES.
SO THE FOLLOWING ARE ADDITIONAL THINGS I'M NOT ASKING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED.
I KNOW THAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS, UM, AMAZING IDEAS TO DECORATE THE PARKS, BUT I THOUGHT IF, IF YOU GUYS WERE OKAY AND IF PARKS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER, MAYBE HAVING DECORATIONS, UH, MAYBE DRESSING UP THE CROOK CENTER WITH A COUPLE OF GINGERBREAD DECORATIONS.
I KNOW THAT, UM, IT'S NOT SO COMPLICATED TO DO IT YOURSELF, SO I'M HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER TO THAT TOO.
UH, SO I WANTED TO PUT A COUPLE OF IDEAS OF HOUSES I HAVE SEEN.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED, AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE DONE THIS YEAR, BUT YOU KNOW, YEARS TO COME IF THIS OR SOMETHING TO STICK UP.
MAYBE GET A SMALL GINGERBREAD HOUSE AS A PICTURE PROP SO THAT GRINCH CAN TAKE PICTURES WITH THE KIDS DURING THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY.
UM, SO ANYWAY, THOSE WERE, UH, MY THOUGHTS.
THERE ARE SOME LINKS FOR YOU GUYS TO EXPLORE.
UM, I KNOW OTHER CITIES DO IT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIG EVENT.
I FEEL LIKE MOST OF THE RULES HAVE BEEN LIGHTENED UP ALREADY, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL TAKE MUCH TIME FROM OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO SEE IF MARIANA HAS ANY THOUGHTS OR, OR COMMENTS THAT SHE WANTS TO ADD.
MARIA ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
SO MAYOR COUNSEL, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU NOTICED, BUT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO BRING GINGERBREAD ALIVE IN THE DECORATION.
SO TWO YEARS AGO WE DECORATED THE KRUG BUILDING, UM, LIKE A GINGERBREAD HOUSE.
AND THEN LAST YEAR WE ATTEMPTED TO DECORATE THE GAZEBO LIKE A GINGERBREAD HOUSE.
SO WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE VERY, UM, FUN AND NOT VERY DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT AS PART OF SANTA'S ARRIVAL DAY.
UM, SO WE COULD DEFINITELY DO A CONTEST AND ANNOUNCE THE WINNER DURING SANTA'S ARRIVAL.
UM, DECORATING THE CREW BUILDING LIKE A GINGERBREAD HOUSE WOULD BE A LOT MORE CHALLENGING, AND WE'D HAVE TO DEFINITELY, UM, LICK IN A LITTLE MORE INTO THAT.
BUT, UM, ALWAYS WILLING TO, SOUNDS LIKE A FUN TASK.
UH, DO YOU NEED A, DO YOU NEED A TASK FORCE TO DO THIS OR, I DON'T THINK SO.
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GO? YOU TELL MARIANA, YOU TELL ME.SO, STAFF, UH, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER INITIALLY BROUGHT THIS TO OUR DEPARTMENT, THEY ALREADY HAVE APPLICATION READY TO GO OUTLINE THE RULES.
UM, THEY'RE READY TO, YOU KNOW, ONCE HOLIDAY SEASON COMES CLOSER, PUT THE CONTEST IN PLACE.
UM, THE DECORATING PART, WE STILL HAVE TO DO A LITTLE WORK ON ALL.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO, UH, PROCEED WITH THE PROPOSAL TO HOST A FIRST ANNUAL, UH, CITY OF KYLE GINGERBREAD HOUSE CONTEST.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY CUSTOMER FLORES KALES.
HOW MANY, UM, HOW MANY HOUSES? 18 BY 18, HOW MANY HOUSES WOULD FIT IN THE CRUDE BUILDING? LET'S SAY WE HAVE 25 ENTRIES, OR MAYBE 40.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I FORGOT TO LINE UP THAT WE MAY NEED TO CAP
JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT LIKE 60,000 HOUSES,
THEY HAVE TO FIT WITHIN A 24 BY 24 FRAME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THE SECOND QUESTION WILL BE THE SAFETY ISSUE AS FAR AS THE ELECTRICAL LIGHTING.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS JUST ROCK FORWARD, BUT SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS FAR AS THE, THE PLUGS, OUTLETS, UH, ANY OF THAT STUFF THAT WOULD NEED FOR, UM, THE LIGHTING.
I GUESS WHEN IT'S TIME TO JUDGE, THEY'LL BE TURNED ON, BUT, UH, WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
WE HADN'T SPOKEN ABOUT THAT OKAY.
YEAH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT FOR SURE.
BUT IT'S, OVERALL IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
JUST, JUST A QUICK SOLVE FOR THE SPACE ISSUE IS HAVING DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
THEREFORE, YOU'RE NOT HAVING AS MANY PARTICIPANTS IN THE BUILDING BUILDING AT THE SAME.
WELL, IDEALLY YOU WANNA HAVE THEM ALL ON THIS PLACE SO THE RESIDENTS CAN STOP BY IN THE AFTERNOON OF THE TREE LIGHTING EVENT TO MAKE A VOTE FOR WHAT IS THEIR CHOICE.
BECAUSE I MEAN, I INITIALLY, I THOUGHT TO HAVE THEM DISPLAY HERE AT SIRI HALL SO EVERYBODY COULD SEE THEM, BUT THEN I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED ABOUT MAYBE MYE OR RODENTS CHEWING UP ON THEIR
WE'D HAVE TO SMOOTH OUT AND FINAL YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN, THERE ARE DETAILS TO BE WORKED ON, SO, BUT I'M HAPPY IF YOU GUYS CONSIDER IT.
AND YOU WANT THE GRINCH TO BE ON THERE.
I I DON'T THINK HE'S ON PAROLE.
YOU ANYBODY KNOW IF HE'S ON PAROLE? HE MIGHT BE OUT.
UM, HE'S, UH, HE'S COM HE'S TIME SERVED.
OTHER DISCUSSION? CUSTOMERS GONNA TO GO? SO THIS WILL NOT COST ANY EXTRA FUNDS OR ADVERTISING TIME FROM CITY STAFF.
AND I, I COULD SEE RACHEL STILL HAS TO DO A LOT OF COMMUNICATION.
WE'RE ALREADY PROMOTING SANTA'S ARRIVAL AS BE PART OF THE WEBSITE UPDATES.
UM, AND SPEAKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PARLEY, SHE DID MENTION, UH, LOOKING AT SECURING SOME DONATIONS OR SPONSORSHIPS THAT GO TOWARDS THE PRIZE MONEY AND ANY OTHER RELATED COSTS.
BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE PART OF THE SANTA'S ARRIVAL EVENT, OUR STAFF TIME, JUST SO FOR EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE, IS IT ONE PER HOUSEHOLD? I MEAN, I KNOW IT CAN GET KIND OF EXPENSIVE IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY, A BIG FAMILY THAT, SO WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED ANY OF THAT YET.
WE ARE MORE WAITING ON COUNCIL DIRECTION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO GO FOR AND PURSUE IT.
SO NOW WE'D HAVE TO FINALIZE THOSE DETAILS.
YEAH, WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED THAT PART YET.
NO, I, I REALLY LIKE THE PASSION WE PUT INTO THE PRESENTATION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL WAS THE FAVORITE ONE? NO.
IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, I DID MENTION A NEW YEAR'S EVE BALL DROP.
UH, WE STILL KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THAT.
UM, YEAH, WE, WE HAVE IT CONSIDERED, BUT NO INDEFINITE PLANS AS OF THIS MOMENT.
BUT THAT WOULDN'T TAKE A LOT OF TIME EITHER, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST THE DROP OF A BALL ON NEW YEAR'S, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFERENT BECAUSE STAFF WOULD BE STAFF IT DEPENDING ON WHAT DAY NEW YEAR'S FELL ON.
UM, AND THEN ASSOCIATED COSTS WITH SPONSORSHIPS AND DONATIONS IF WE WERE NOT ABLE TO SECURE THOSE AS WELL.
BUT YEAH, WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT PLANNING SOMETHING FOR NEW YEAR.
ALL RIGHT, ALL US IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[25. Discussion and possible action to amend the rules of council to require a co-sponsor (two council members) for Kyle City Council Agenda items, excluding proclamations. No council member will be allowed to have their name on more than FOUR agenda items per meeting. ~ Bear Heiser and Daniela Parsley, Council Members]
ZERO.DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO REQUIRE CO-SPONSOR TO COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE CITY OF COLLEGE INTO ITEMS EXCLUDING PROCLAMATIONS.
NO COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR NAMES ON MORE THAN FOUR AGENDA ITEMS PER MEETING.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER AND COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
UH, SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UH, WE AS COUNCIL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO INTERPRET AND IMPLEMENT WHAT'S, UH, WRITTEN IN THE CITY CHARTER
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AND USING THE CHARTER AS GUIDANCE COUNCILS THAT HAVE PROCEEDED ME, UH, IN MY TIME HERE, HAVE INTERPRETED THE CHARTER TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ITEMS PER MEMBER TWO THREE.FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT WAS DONE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF EFFICIENCY TO OUR MEETINGS.
THIS CO-SPONSORED AGENDA ITEM WAS NOT BROUGHT ABOUT TO FURTHER INCREASE EFFICIENCY OR TO LIMIT CONVERSATION.
IT SOLELY WAS BROUGHT ABOUT TO ENCOURAGE MORE CONVERSATION IN THE FORM OF COLLABORATION.
IN MY SHORT TIME HERE, TIME SPENT ON THE DIOCESE HAS BEEN USED FOR DEBATE AND PROBLEM SOLVING, NOT FOR IDEATING.
MY HOPE IS THAT HAVING CO-SPONSORS FOR AGENDA ITEMS IS NOT SEEN AS RESTRICTIVE, BUT MORE SO IT'S SEEN AS A WAY TO ENCOURAGE US TO COLLABORATE AND SYNC OUR VISIONS FOR THE CITY.
THREE OF US ARE AT LARGE AND THREE OF US REPRESENT INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS.
I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK MORE CLOSELY ON OUR IDEAS BEFORE THEY GET TO THE DIAS IS A WAY TO STRENGTHEN THOSE IDEAS IN ADVANCE OF THEM BEING THROWN TO THE WOLVES.
IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF THIS AS FORCE COLLABORATION, THEN HAVE AT IT.
UH, I YIELD
UM, I DO THINK THAT COLLABORATION IS THE KEY WORD FOR THIS ITEM.
I THINK WORKING TO BE TOGETHER, IT, IT DOES HELP HAVE TWO PEOPLE THINK ABOUT SOMETHING AND BRING MORE IDEAS.
UM, SO WHENEVER AN ITEM COMES TO THE TABLE, IT WILL HAVE PROBABLY TWO DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW, BUT THE SAME AGREEMENT.
SO THE MORE SOLID ITEMS WILL BE PRESENTED IF TWO PEOPLE WORK ON THEM.
UM, I KNOW SOMETIMES CUZ THIS HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, UM, WHEN A COUNCIL MEMBER BRINGS AN ITEM AND A MOTION GETS MADE, UM, AND IF THE MOTION WERE TO BE DENIED, THEN THAT'S THE END OF THE ITEM.
MAYBE HAVING BETTER UNDERSTANDING AHEAD OF TIME WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF EYES.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT DOING THE HOMEWORK WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY BRINGS AN ITEM, BUT HAVING A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND MAYBE DIFFERENT MOTIONS OR BETTER MOTIONS WILL COME TO THE TABLE UNLESS THINGS COULD BE DENIED.
UM, SO THE OTHER THING I BELIEVE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD EXCLUDE PROCLAMATION FROM THIS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADDRESS THE BRINGING BACK ITEMS THAT HAVE NOT PASSED.
I, I, I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE EXCLUDED FROM HAVING TWO TWO SPONSOR ITEMS. UM, AND I WILL ALSO TO ADD TO THAT, LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED, UH, FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BRING BACK AN ITEM.
I KNOW THERE IS SECTION EIGHT POINT A I FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BRING AN ITEM OR TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED THE VOTE, NOT ONLY ON THE SAME MEETING, BUT THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
THERE IS A SECTION THAT ONLY ALLOWS FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO RESCIND THE VOTE OR RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON THE SAME MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THAT TO BE TO THE NEXT MEETING, CUZ WE HAVE HAD THAT ISSUE YEAH.
OVER THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS.
THE, THIS, THE AGENDA LANGUAGE IS FAIRLY WELL DEFINED ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT THAT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK AT AN, AT ANOTHER MEETING TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE THAT YOU'RE RAISING.
WHAT, WHAT PAIGE IS SAYING IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS AGENDA IS WORDED, WE CAN ONLY SPEAK ABOUT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SPECIFICS.
SO ALL THE OTHER STUFF, THE RULES OF COUNSEL AREN'T BEING BROUGHT.
ONLY THESE TWO PARTICULAR ITEMS. GOTCHA.
SO THE TWO PARTICULAR ITEMS ARE, UM, LIMIT OF FOUR AND THE OTHER ONE IS A CO-SPONSOR.
SO, AND, AND I'M GONNA BE HONEST, UH, I DON'T SUPPORT FORCE COLLABORATION IN THE LEAST
UM, AND I FEEL LIKE THIS AGENDA ITEM, UM, YOU KNOW, HINDERS THE CHARTER.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I, I GO TO THE CHARTER FOR, UH, MY, MY LEGAL BACKUP.
UM, THERE IS A SECTION 3.07 THAT STATES COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY REQUIRE ANY ITEM RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS TO BE PLACED ON AN AGENDA FOR WHICH NOTICE MAY BE GIVEN.
SO MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND COUNCIL MEMBER HEIS, IS IF A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUEST AN ITEM RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS TO BE PLACED ON AN AGENDA AND THEY ARE TOLD NO BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A CO-SPONSOR, HOW DOES THIS NOT VIOLATE THE CITY'S CHARTER? WELL, THE ANSWER IS IT DOESN'T VIOLATE THE CITY'S CHARTER IN THE SAME WAY THAT IF A COUNCIL MEMBER TODAY ASKS FOR A FOURTH ITEM, THEY WILL BE TOLD NO, EVEN THOUGH THE CHARTER SAYS THAT THEY MAY REQUIRE IT BECAUSE WE INTERPRET THE, THE, THE RULES OF
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COUNSEL, WHICH FURTHER DEFINE AND EXPLAIN WHAT CAN AND CANNOT HAPPEN.BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CHARTER THAT STATES HOW MANY ITEMS. CORRECT.
BUT TO DENY SOMEBODY THE ABILITY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE CHARTER IS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THIS SECTION.
SO IF IT'S JUST NO REASON, THEN THAT TO ME IS A VIOLATION.
TO THE EXTENT THAT I WAS WILLING TO WRITE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND GET HIS ADVICE AND NOT THE CURRENT ONE.
BUT PREVIOUSLY, AND THE TRUTH IS, HE SAYS TO STICK IT ON THE AGENDA AND LET THE COUNCIL DECIDE.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO DO THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT SEVERAL EMAILS AND TEXTS AND I ALWAYS TAKE EVERYBODY INTO CONSIDERATION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THIS IS LIMITING WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
THAT IT'S A CENSORSHIP FOR ME.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I FEEL LIKE IT VIOLATES THE CHARTER IN THE SENSE THAT WE WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PUT ANY ITEM ON, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO CITY OF BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S, WELL, I'M, I'M NOT MAKING A STATEMENT ABOUT THE, WHETHER YOU WANT TO BEFORE OR AGAINST IT.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE SPECIFIC ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, GEORGETOWN HAS THE EXACT SAME RULE.
SO THE SPECIFIC ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION OF HOW DOES THIS NOT VIOLATE THE CHARTER IS IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR CURRENT RULES DON'T VIOLATE THE CHARTER.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GEORGETOWN'S CHARTER SAY? DOES IT SAY THE SAME THING? BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT RULES OF COUNCILS, UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT CHARTERS.
SO IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT SAYS.
AND FOR ME, UH, THERE'S NO WAY I'M GONNA SUPPORT, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA BE TOLD NO BECAUSE A, I FEEL LIKE IF, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO CO GO TO MAYOR MITCHELL OR COUNCIL MEMBER TO BK OR I CAN ONLY TALK TO TWO PEOPLE, OTHERWISE IT BECOMES A QUORUM.
AND SO WHAT IF THE PERSON THAT IS WILLING TO CO-SPONSOR THIS WITH ME, I DON'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO, CUZ THEY WERE THE THIRD PERSON I WAS GONNA ASK, HOW DO WE KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS? SO I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, AN OPEN MEETINGS VIOLATION AND CENSORSHIP CUSTOMER
SO MY THOUGHTS ON IT IS WE'RE ALREADY DOING THIS.
UM, WHEN WE COLLABORATE WITH EACH OTHER, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE BOTH OUR NAMES ON AN AGENDA ITEM.
TO ME THAT ALMOST IS BORDERLINE COLLUSION AT BEST.
I DON'T LIKE TO GIVE UP MY INDEPENDENCE AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO HAVE TO FORCE ME TO HAVE TO WORK WITH SOMEONE ELSE.
I'M PRETTY SURE I CAN DO MY OWN RESEARCH, TALK TO STAFF AND BRING ANYTHING THAT I FEEL IS IMPORTANT THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT IMMEDIATELY TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I WAS A, I WAS ELECTED AS A SINGLE CANDIDATE.
SO I DON'T NEED TO BE UP HERE NICE.
I, I THINK I DON'T, I DO NOT NEED PERMISSION FROM ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TO BRING AN EMERGENCY OR ANY SITUATION THAT RESIDENTS FEEL THEY NEED ADDRESSED UP HERE.
BUT THOSE ARE JUST MY, MY PASSIONATE MAYOR PRO TIP.
OKAY, LET'S READ, HE READ WHAT IT SAYS.
DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNCIL TO REQUIRE CO-SPONSORS, MEMBERS FOR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS TO REQUIRE NOW ANY AGENDA ITEMS THAT IT HAS TO BE TWO CO-SPONSORS, BUT EXCLUDING PROCLAMATIONS, NO COUNCIL MEMBER WILL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR NAME ON MORE THAN FOUR ITEMS, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THREE.
BUT I'M, WHEN I'M READING, READING THAT, THAT'S HOW I'M INTERPRETING IT.
REQUIRING THAT IF THERE'S SOME, IF THERE'S A DISCUSSION THAT I HAVE FROM A RESIDENT THAT'S FROM MY DISTRICT THAT NONE OF Y'ALL COME TO MY SIDE OF TOWN FOR THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THEM AND I'LL NEED TO BRING IT FORWARD THAT I WOULD HAVE TO FIND A CO-SPONSOR TO TALK ABOUT IT AND HAVE IT BEFORE I CAN EVEN BRING IT ON THE AGENDA.
I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT'S AVAILABLE TO SAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE MY CO-SPONSOR FOR THIS? WELL, I DON'T HAVE TIME OR THIS, THAT, THE OTHER, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE INDEPENDENCE.
LIKE ZUNIGA SAYS, ACCORDING, CUZ WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MANY TIMES ALREADY ABOUT THE RULES OF COUNCIL, ABOUT WHAT, FIVE TIMES ALREADY.
EVEN WHEN, UM, ABOUT CHANGING THE RULES AND THIS AND THAT.
THE OTHER, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOMETIMES THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE, MAYBE IT'S A SLIP UP OR WHATEVER.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN ISSUE, I THINK WE'RE MAYOR MITCHELL, YOU HAD AN, YOU HAD AN ITEM THAT YOU HAD CO-SPONSORED WITH ME.
AND I THINK, UM, YOU HAD TWO MORE ITEMS. AND THEN I THINK THERE WAS AN AGENDA, KIND OF LIKE REVIEW WHEN IT, YOU JUST HAPPENED TO MAYBE HAD YOUR NAME ON IT, BUT IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF CALLING,
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HEY, WHAT'S THE ROLL CALL? AND IT GOT GOT KIND UPON ORDER.BUT IN THIS, BUT I MEAN, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, NOT OKAY.
JUST LIKE SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS.
UM, YEAH, BUT WHEN, WELL, LIKE, I WANNA SPEAK TO THAT CAUSE YOU BROUGHT MY, MY NAME INTO THIS CONVERSATION.
I'M TRYING NOT TO CAST JUDGMENT ON THE PROPOSAL.
I'M SAYING THAT IT IS LEGAL FOR US TO DO THAT.
SO, BUT THE, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE LONG-STANDING ITEMS THAT I BRING FORWARD.
ONE IS AGENDA ORDER, WHICH IS A NEW ONE THAT REALLY, THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE THE ONE TO SPONSOR.
WE JUST CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE AN ITEM BECAUSE I, BECAUSE I ALLOWED MYSELF TO AGREE WITH US THAT I'M ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE THREE ITEMS,
UH, BUT THE, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE C I P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS AN ITEM, UH, A STANDING ITEM THAT I STARTED SPONSORING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO WHERE THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT HAD ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WOULD COME FORWARD.
LIKE TODAY, WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT HEADS.
UH, I I WAS CALLED POINT OF ORDER ON THAT ONE AS WELL.
UH, AND SO WE JUST PUT LEON'S NAME ON THERE.
SO THE TRUTH IS, AND THERE ARE ALSO STATUTORY THINGS THAT THE MAYOR HAS TO BRING FORWARD, LIKE CANVASSING OF ELECTIONS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
AND THEN, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS, THE CHARTER PUTS THE PLACEMENT OF THE ENTIRE AGENDA UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH MEANS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THEIR ITEMS, THAT THEY HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO PLACE ON THERE.
AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE CH UH, THE AGENDA BELONGS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR PER THE CHARTER.
SO THE TRUTH IS, UH, THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE MAYOR NEEDS TO BE EXCLUDED AND FRANKLY, PROBABLY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE CO-SPONSORING ITEMS. IF Y'ALL WANTED TO GO THIS ROUTE, I, THE MAYOR SHOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THIS BECAUSE THE CHARTER DOES DISTINGUISH SPECIFIC TO THE AGENDA, THE MAYOR.
AND, AND JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE FOR TODAY, BECAUSE LAST MEETING, COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA HAD BROUGHT UP A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC ABOUT VOLUNTEERING IN THE COMMUNITY, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
SO I REACHED OUT TO THE COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, OUTTA RESPECT FOR WHAT YOU ARE BRINGING FORWARD AND OUTTA RESPECT FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CO-SPONSOR AND ASKING HIM IF YOU'D LIKE TO COSSON? WHICH HE GRACEFULLY DID.
BUT I, I THINK WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO SAY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LIMITING TO SAY, OKAY, THERE'S, THERE'S CERTAIN ITEMS ON HERE THAT WE WANNA BRING AS FAR AS THE GIN ITEMS. THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THIS, I HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY TO TAG ALONG WITH ME.
CUZ THAT'S HOW I'M READING THIS CUSTOMER BREK.
SO I'M HEARING SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT ADDING A CO-SPONSOR AND I'M TRYING TO LISTEN TO EVERYONE TO COME TO, TO IDENTIFY WHAT ISSUE IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE HERE.
IF IT IS COLLABORATION, I CAN SUPPORT THAT.
IF IT IS BRINGING FORWARD BETTER QUALITY AGENDA ITEMS, I CAN DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE WASTED A LOT OF TIME ON THIS DI TALKING ABOUT SOME REALLY SILLY THINGS THAT COULD PROBABLY BE HANDLED OFF THE DIAS JUST BY HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF OR WITH EACH OTHER.
IF THAT IS THE CASE, IF THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE, I THINK THAT WE CAN PROBABLY ELABORATE AND CLARIFY ON WHAT CITY BUSINESS IS IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL MM-HMM.
I REALLY COULD GO EITHER WAY BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE I BRING FORWARD, I WOULD BRING FORWARD ANYTHING THAT I COULDN'T GET A CO-SPONSOR FOR.
I'M OPEN TO HEARING WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY.
IT DOES SEEM LIKE THERE'S SOME, SOME LEGAL HURDLES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY ON BOARD WITH ADDING A CO-SPONSOR.
SO JUST MY 2 CENTS CUSTOMER HAZARD, ALL RIGHT.
UH, I AM, I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING TO FIND THE NUANCE IN, UH, TYPES OF COUNCIL MATTERS.
I I CAN UNDERSTAND THE, THE RELUCTANCE TO GET ON BOARD WITH AN IDEA THAT IS BOLD LIKE THIS.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, IT REALLY SADDENS ME THAT THE, THE THREE PEOPLE WHO'VE CHOSEN TO SPOKE HAVE BROUGHT UP, UM,
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UH, BROUGHT UP THE CONCERNS THROUGH THE LENS OF IMPORTANT NEEDS TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS.LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS THINK THAT IF SOMETHING WERE IMPORTANT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS, THAT YOU COULDN'T LOOK UP AND DOWN THIS DIOCESE AND FIND ONE PERSON TO SUPPORT YOUR AGENDA ITEM.
THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE, THE, THE, THAT IS WHERE YOU GUYS DON'T THINK THAT THERE THE COLLABORATION EXISTS.
THAT WE DON'T EQUALLY CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER AND ONE ANOTHER'S DUTY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
BECAUSE WE COULD BE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS IN ADVANCE OF, OF COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THERE'S TWO ITEMS TONIGHT THAT WE HEMMED AND HOT ABOUT FOR GOOD REASON.
BUT IF WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE, WE WOULD'VE NOT HEMMED AND HAW ABOUT IT.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN AN EASIER DECISION WITH A CLEAR CUT PATH FORWARD.
THE LAST ITEM IN REGARDS TO THE LAW FIRM, I'M ALL FOR THE, THAT IS A GREAT, IT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE I SUPPORT YOU, I SUPPORT THE ITEM.
BUT I'M GONNA BE SITTING HERE BE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WHAT NOW COME A MONTH FROM NOW WHEN WE, WHEN WE CLOSE THE RFP PROCESS.
NOW WHAT I DON'T LIKE VOTING FOR STUFF LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE CUZ WE'RE JUST EXERCISING.
WE'RE JUST DOING THINGS FOR THE SAKE OF DOING THINGS WITH NO, NO REAL DEDICAT LIKE, UH, CERTAIN OUTCOME.
THERE'S NO CLEAR PATH FORWARD.
THERE'S JUST GONNA SAY, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, BUT NOT FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NEXT, NEXT AND NEXT.
IF WE WERE TO BE, IF WE WERE TO COLLABORATE, AND I SAID FORCE COLLABORATION IS A WAY TO TRY TO BRING LIGHT TO SOMETHING I COULD TELL WAS GONNA BECOME CONTENTIOUS FORCE COLLABORATION BECAUSE WE SHOULD WANT TO COLLABORATE YOU.
WHEN YOU AND I HAD THE BATTLE OF ALL BATTLES AFTER THE LAST MEETING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID TO ME WAS, YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED ME ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT THE THE POLICE FLOOR PLAN OF THE SAFETY CENTER.
AND I, WHAT DID I SAY TO YOU? I SAID, YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED ME.
WELL, THAT'S JUST LIKE US POINTING FINGERS AT ONE ANOTHER.
BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO HERE IS IF, OR WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE, IS IF WE, IF THIS WERE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO EXECUTE, WE WOULD BE MAKING THAT PHONE CALL.
WE WOULD HAVE COME TO THE DIAS WITH AN AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS NEAR BULLETPROOF.
AND THAT'S A WAY FOR US TO, TO WORK AS A COUNCIL TO WORK ON OUR VISION TOGETHER.
WE, THEY HAVEN'T HAD OUR VISION AND WORKSHOP.
WE DON'T HAVE A A, UM, WE HAVEN'T HIRED THE CITY MANAGER YET.
WE LACK CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD BRING US CLOSER AS A COUNCIL AND WE DON'T HAVE THEM.
THIS IS SOMETHING, AND I'M JUST GONNA PULL BACK THE CURTAIN A LITTLE BIT, AND I'M MY SOAPBOX RIGHT NOW, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND I ARE LIKE WAY OPPOSITE ENDS OF, OF THE WORLD.
WE WERE OKAY IT BEFORE I BECAME ELECTED.
AND ONCE I BECAME ELECTED, WE PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND WE REALIZED WE'RE NOT THAT DIFFERENT.
THERE IS A LOT IN COMMON BETWEEN US THAT WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW EXISTED, BUT WE, WE FORCED OURSELVES TO COLLABORATE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
AND WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS, ALI, I THINK WE HAVE, BUT THAT'S FOR ANOTHER DAY.
AND MY POINT BEING HERE IS IF WE BELIEVE THAT THIS ITEM IS FOR GOOD AND WE AS A COUNCIL BELIEVE THAT WE TOGETHER CAN DO GOOD, THEN THERE SHOULDN'T BE A FEELING OF COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE, AS I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE MAKING PHONE CALLS.
ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO CO-SPONSOR? ARE YOU? BUT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY.
THERE IS SOMEONE THAT IS GONNA BE THERE FOR YOU BECAUSE IF IT IS A MATTER THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY, YOU WILL GET THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL.
CAN I ASK SOMETHING? I DIGRESS.
COUNCIL ZUNIGA, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
WE'RE WE HAVE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
NOBODY UP HERE KNOWS WHICH WAY I VOTE.
I BREAK WITH FLORES, I BREAK WITH THE MAYOR.
BUT WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS A PATTERN.
AND THIS IS WHAT SKIP WHAT WHAT, WHAT I'M AFRAID OF.
I SEE THE PATTERN OF TWO SAME SPONSORS, THE VOTE'S THE SAME.
SO WHERE ARE WE GETTING SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL THOUGHT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THE DANGER IS TO ME IS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING A LOT OF THIS, UM, BEHIND THE SCENES, PEOPLE ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED OUR NAME ON AN AGENDA ITEM WITH ANOTHER PERSON THAT MAKES IT MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE NOW THERE'S TWO, TWO NAMES ON THAT.
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IS THERE, WE GONNA LEARN SOMETHING NEW BECAUSE OF THAT.SO THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
THIS IS NOT MEANT TO CAUSE SUCH A REVOLT, HONESTLY.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HEIS BROAD WAS EXCELLENT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE FOUND WAYS, WE HAVE FOUND COMMON GROUND AND, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING AND HE SAY, WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF OBJECTION AND YOU NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER SET OF EYES WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING STAFF TO THE COUNCIL.
UM, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST MEETINGS, ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN ALREADY WORKED ON BY STAFF.
UM, AND WE HAVE SPENT 30 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT NONSENSE BECAUSE OF, OF LACK OF REACHING OUT TO STAFF FOR EDUCATION.
UM, NOW IF, IF YOU REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY BEFORE BRINGING THAT AGENDA ITEM, YOU MAY GET TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, I HAVE REACHED OUT ABOUT, UH, STAFF ABOUT THE TREES, OR I HAVE REACHED OUT TO STAFF ABOUT THE GINGERBREAD HOUSE.
IT IS A WAY TO WORK WITH COUNCIL.
THERE IS SEVEN DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES IN HERE.
AND AT SOME POINT, EITHER EVEN WHEN I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU AND LIKE HALF OF THE THINGS, I MIGHT HAVE TO CO-SPONSOR AN ITEM WITH YOU.
AND IF YOU CANNOT FIND A SPONSOR TO BRING AN ITEM, THEN MAYBE THE ITEM IS NOT GOOD QUALITY.
IT'S NOT ABOUT TAKING YOUR INDEPENDENCE.
IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO BRING WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS BRING.
THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU CAN SEND OVER AN EMAIL TO STAFF MEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS.
AND IF IT IS IMPORTANT, YOU REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND YOU WILL FIND SUPPORT.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY HERE IS LOOKING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS.
IT IS NOT ABOUT, UNLESS YOU ARE BRINGING ITEMS TO GET GLORY, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM YOU? YOU'RE CONFUSING.
WAIT, I DID NOT BRING A GINGERBREAD AGENDA ITEM.
WE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DIGRESS ANY FURTHER THAN THIS, OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST, WE JUST GOTTA BE DONE.
SO THE, THE, I I WILL JUST SAY THAT AS IT RE NUMBER ONE IS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO REQUIRE CO-SPONSORS PER THE CHARTER IF, IF WE AMEND OUR RULES OF COUNSEL.
NUMBER TWO IS IF WE TRY IT AND IT DOESN'T WORK, UH, WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT BACK.
UH, NUMBER THREE, UH, IS THAT TO COUNCIL? WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY HAD TO SAY THERE IS VERY APPROPRIATE.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ITEM, IF YOU HAVE AN ITEM THAT YOU CAN'T GET A CO-SPONSOR, MAYBE IT'S NOT A GOOD ITEM TO BRING FORWARD.
I SAY THAT LOOKING AT THIS DIAS, KNOWING THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE HERE AND EVERYBODY HAS RELATIONSHIPS.
THERE'S NOT JUST A SMALL GROUP.
EVERYBODY HAS RELATIONSHIPS WITH EVERYBODY.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD HAVE ANY TROUBLE GETTING AN ITEM SPONSORED, UH, WITH BY SOMEONE ELSE IF IT WAS A GOOD ITEM.
IT JUST REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT EXTRA WORK, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL SAVE TIME ON THE DIAS, WHICH IS ULTIMATELY WHAT I THINK WE ARE IN NEED OF.
BECAUSE OFTENTIMES OUR MEETINGS, IT IS VERY COMMON.
I WILL SAY THIS FOR THE FEEDBACK THAT I GET FROM PEOPLE WHO WATCH AND PARTICIPATE IN THESE MEETINGS ACROSS THE BOARD, IS THAT THEY GO TOO LONG AND THAT WE REALLY SPIN OUT ONCE WE START GETTING TO THE COUNCIL ITEMS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEBATE, UH, AND A LOT OF, UH, LACK OF, AND A LACK OF PREPARATION THAT GOES INTO, UH, THE GENERAL DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I WOULD BE WILLING TO TRY THIS OUT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONS, CONSERVATIVE NATURE OF THE DESIRE TO HAVE THAT INDEPENDENCE.
I JUST THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION HERE WHERE WE, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE ALL GONNA AGREE ON THIS, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DECIDE ON RULES THAT WE CAN LIVE BY.
I PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO IMPLEMENT, AND I'VE DISCUSSED IT MANY TIMES WITH LOTS OF NODDING HEADS, UH, RULES REQUIRED TO LIMIT THE TIME THAT WE DISCUSS ITEMS OR, AND THAT THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED BY MAYOR PRO TIM MANY TIMES.
UH, ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF WAYS TO JUST TRY TO REIGN IN THE EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON, ON THE VARIETY OF TOPICS.
OFTENTIMES JUST THAT END WITH US KICKING IT BACK TO STAFF WITH JUST SOME KIND OF GENERAL DIRECTION FOR MORE RESEARCH AND WORK TO BE DONE.
NOW I'M GONNA GO TO, SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, BUT, BUT IT HAS TO COME BACK TO ME.
THIS WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT MY INTENT EITHER.
UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES, I, I THINK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER HAS A, A SAID IT WELL WHEN HE SAID THESE THREE PEOPLE ARE, ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, IN FAVOR OF IT.
THESE ARE ALSO THREE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE TO AUSTIN EVERY DAY.
SO LET ME MAKE CLEAR THAT I AM A BUSY PERSON.
I GO TO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY,
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FIVE DAYS A WEEK, AND MY TIME IS VERY LIMITED.I FEAR THAT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET A CO-SPONSOR, MAYOR MITCHELL, YOU KNOW, DARN GOOD AND WELL, SO DOES JERRY THAT I SUBMIT MY ITEMS AT THE LAST MINUTE.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE I'M SO BUSY.
SO NOW I FEAR IF I DON'T GIVE, IF I DON'T TALK TO SOMEBODY IN A, IN A, AN AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT'S SUFFICIENT.
OR MAYBE THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN THEIR TWO.
I, YOU KNOW, CUZ NOW WE'RE, WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TWO EACH.
IF WE'RE SAYING FOUR, I'M ASSUMING IS IT COULD BE BROKEN UP TO TWO AND ONE, THREE AND ONE, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU CHOOSE TO GO WITH.
IF SOMEONE WENT WITH ME, I USUALLY HAVE THREE ITEMS CUZ IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO GET THINGS DONE BEFORE MY TERM IS UP.
AND SO ULTIMATELY I'D BE GIVING UP ONE IF ME AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA AGREED TO CO-SPONSOR EACH OTHER.
NOW THAT'S TWO ITEMS. SO THAT, THAT'S A FEAR FOR ME AS WELL, IS WHAT AM I GONNA DO IF I CAN'T FIND SOMEBODY? UM, NOT ANY OTHER REASON, THEN I'M JUST BUSY.
UM, IF YOU ASK ME MY PERSONAL OPINION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU GAVE MAYOR MITCHELL, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS LEGAL ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER.
I IF, IF IT PASSES, I WILL CHALLENGE THIS IN EVERY ASPECT.
UH, I DON'T THINK BRINGING IT BACK IS A GOOD IDEA.
I DON'T THINK PASSING IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
I DON'T THINK CO-SPONSORSHIP SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT.
AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD EVER BE.
I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO CONTROL THE MEETING.
BECAUSE I GET UP THE NEXT DAY, I TAKE MY SON TO SCHOOL AND I AM TIRED.
AND WHEN I LEAVE HERE AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, I'M EVEN MORE TIRED.
SO FOR ME, I, I WANNA GO HOME EARLY TOO.
THERE ARE WAYS TO CONTROL THAT BESIDES LIMITING OUR SPONSORSHIP OR LIMITING WHAT WE CAN PUT ON ON THE AGENDA.
DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION ON A WAY TO CONTROL THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
CALL A MOTION, CALL A POINT OF ORDER.
MAKE, MAKE THE, THE MEETING MOVE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS ALREADY WITHIN OUR RULES OF COUNCIL AND IN ROBERT'S RULES THAT WE COULD UTILIZE.
AND I'M GONNA SAY I'VE NEVER SEEN IT DONE MORE THAN IT HAS BEEN LATELY.
IT, IT'S A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD, WHEREAS WE DECIDE COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL WHAT WE DO WHEN WE DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT.
NOPE, YOU'VE ALREADY GONE TWICE.
SO I'M TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.
OKAY, SO I'M HEARING WE WANT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH OUR TIME.
I'M HEARING THAT WE WANT BETTER AGENDA ITEMS AND I'M HEARING THAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING EACH OTHER TO TALK WITH ONE ANOTHER BEFORE THE MEETING AND TALK WITH STAFF ABOUT OUR ITEMS BEFORE THE MEETING.
I THINK WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE HERE.
THAT WAS THE INTENTION BEHIND THIS ITEM.
NOT TO CENSOR, NOT TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER AND BEING EFFICIENT IN OUR ROLES.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE RESERVATIONS, I DO UNDERSTAND THE HESITANCY AND I DO FEEL LIKE WE CAN ALL GET TO THAT PLACE.
I AM COMPLETELY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TO, I'M SORRY, MARY PRO TIM TOBIS.
WHEN IT COMES TO TIME LIMITS ON ITEMS, I MEAN, LOOK AT THIS ONE.
WE'VE, WE'VE ALL SPOKEN IN CIRCLES.
WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND GETTING UPSET BECAUSE WE DON'T FEEL LIKE OUR, OUR OPINIONS ARE BEING HEARD ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN RESTRICT THAT OR LIMIT THAT TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MINUTES, PEOPLE WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THEIR WORDS AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF FLUFF AROUND WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE SAID ON THIS DI AND RESTRICTING TIME FOR EACH ITEM IS A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT.
AND AGAIN, I ALSO THINK THAT CLARIFYING THE DEFINITION OF WHAT CITY BUSINESS IS IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL AS FAR AS WHAT ITEMS SHOULD BE ON, SHOULD BE MAKING IT ONTO THE AGENDA VERSUS WHAT ITEMS COULD ACTUALLY BE HANDLED AND ADDRESSED DIRECTLY WITH STAFF.
YEAH, JUST THE PROBLEM OF TIME LIMITS FILIBUSTERING.
UH, SOME, SOME ITEMS ONLY REQUIRE A MINUTE OR TWO.
SOME ITEMS REALLY DO REQUIRE MORE CONVERSATION AND IT CAN BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU INTERPRET THOSE RULES IN SUCH A WAY.
PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE CHAIR, UH, TRYING TO MANAGE THAT.
WE'VE DISCUSSED IT, BUT WHEN YOU REALLY START, START THINKING ABOUT PRACTICALLY, IT JUST DOESN'T, THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T GET IMPLEMENTED VERY OFTEN.
TIME LIMITS IN, IN PUBLIC MEETINGS.
SO I DO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST, I, I REALLY AM PASSIONATE ABOUT MY FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE IN THIS COUNTRY.
IF WE'RE GONNA DO A STUDY AND SEE HOW THIS WORKS, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF OF COOPERATION, I WILL DO IT.
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DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD SHORTEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SAYING, BUT LET'S ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT I'M A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER UP HERE.I'M NOT EFFICIENT AT WHAT TO DO, HOW TO REACH OUT.
OKAY? SO GIVE ME SOME GRACE, GIVE ME SOME TIME TO LEARN.
DON'T PUT ME UP HERE EXPECTING THIS VERY FINE, POLISHED POLITICIAN SPEAK.
OKAY? SO, AND SOMETIMES I DO REACH OUT TO STAFF.
I THINK THAT A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE BROUGHT AS A NEW, AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE BEEN INFORMATIVE AND WE'VE LEARNED AND I'M LEARNING.
OKAY? SO GIMME THAT TIME TO LEARN.
ALL RIGHT? AND ALSO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RESIDENTS TO HEAR WHAT WE ASK.
SO I, THERE IS A GRAY AREA, WHAT SHOULD WE BRING TO AN AGENDA? BUT I DO AGREE WITH MS. BRADSHAW.
SOME OF THIS STUFF PROBABLY SHOULD BE HANDLED WITH STAFF, BUT IN NO WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, DO, DO I WANT TO BE, UH, RUDE OR, OR, OR, OR NOT A TEAM PLAYER.
SO, BUT JUST, THAT'S JUST WHERE I, WHERE I COME FROM TO, TO PROTECT MY INDEPENDENCE.
WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR ENGAGING IN THIS DEBATE.
I'M PRETTY SURE EACH OF US ARE MORE LIKELY TO PICK UP THE PHONE, UH, TO SOMEONE AND, UH, TO, TO TRY AND, UH, EITHER WORK THROUGH WORKSHOP AN IDEA, UH, IN ADVANCE, UH, UH, OF A MEETING OR TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET INPUT WHAT WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT MY SOLE INTENTION FOR THIS WAS COLLABORATION.
IT'S NOT TO MAKE MEETINGS GO FASTER.
IT IS NOT TO IMPOSE TIME LIMITS ON TALK BE.
AND IF, AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT, THIS IS GOING TO DO IT FULL STOP BECAUSE THE IDEAS WILL BE MORE REFINED BEFORE THEY GET HERE.
AND THAT BETTER THAT IS IN THE BETTERMENT OF EVERYONE.
NOT JUST THE PERSON WHOSE I, WHOSE AGENDA ITEM IT IS THE CO-SPONSOR.
IT'S BETTER, IT'S BETTER FOR THE RESIDENTS CUZ THINGS HAPPEN FASTER BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A COURSE OF ACTION TO TAKE AFTER WE PASS SOMETHING.
SO WE'RE NOT JUST KICKING IT BACK TO STAFF TO SAY, HEY STAFF, WE VOTED SEVEN OH ON THIS REALLY COOL THING THAT WE THINK, OR THIS THING THAT WE NEED TO, WE THINK NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW GO AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXECUTE IT.
WE'RE GOING TO, IT'S OUR IDEAS.
I WANNA SAY THAT IS LITERALLY THEIR JOB.
THAT IS WHAT THEY GET PAID FOR.
AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
SO I I I DIDN'T GO TO TO SCHOOL FOR A YEAR.
I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS, I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS COMING FROM HERE AND FROM HERE.
LIKE, I AM SO THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAVE, THAT I HAVE GOTTEN.
AND I JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW THE, THE COLLABORATION AND THE, AND THE JOY THAT WE COULD HAVE AS A COUNCIL, NOT BREAKING QUORUM OBVIOUSLY, BUT AS A COUNCIL, IT, IT IS SO VERY EXCITING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE AS COLLECTIVELY COULD BE POSS COULD BE CAPABLE OF DOING TOGETHER.
AND I'M SORRY TO GET ALL LIKE, EMOTIONAL, UM, WITHOUT GETTING EMOTIONAL YET.
BUT, UM, WELL, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF I ASK TWO PEOPLE AND THEN IT'S A NO, AND THEN I CAN'T PUT IT ON THERE AND NOW I CAN'T ASK A THIRD PERSON THAT MAY HAVE DONE IT.
SO HOW DO I FIX THAT? HOW DOES, HOW DOES, THAT'S THE POINT.
YOU KNOW? AND SO THEN NOW I CAN'T PUT ANYTHING ON THERE AT ALL.
I, I JUST, I, IT'S TOO LIMITING FOR ME.
LIKE, DO I WANT TO COLLABORATE? YES.
I FEEL LIKE WE AS A COUNCIL ARE PRETTY BROKEN IN THE SENSE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS.
AND I CAN SAY THERE'S BEEN A DIFFERENCE WITHIN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT.
I THINK THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE WAY TO DO IT AND I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IT AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I DON'T, I I NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF NOT BEING ABLE TO PLACE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.
OKAY? AGAIN, I MAKE A SUGGESTION SO WE CAN COLLABORATE.
WHAT DO WE THINK ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A CO SPONSOR ITEM, A SINGLE ITEM AND THEN PROCLAMATION BRINGING SOMETHING BACK, SOMETHING ALONG ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO IT'D BE LIKE A HYBRID OF LIKE, IF YOU WANNA DO THREE ITEMS, LIKE TWO, ONE HAS TO BE SPONSORED, THEN TWO COULD BE ON YOUR OWN.
BUT THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE PROCLAMATIONS IN ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA GO ON THERE.
SO YOU, YOU COULD DO PROCLAMATIONS ON YOUR OWN.
YOU WOULD STILL DO THREE, RIGHT? YOU COULD DO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF AN ITEM GETS VOTED NO AND YOU WANNA BRING IT BACK, THAT, THAT COULD BE ON YOUR OWN.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE BRINGING THREE OF YOUR OWN ITEMS
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THAT ARE FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, ONE CAN BE SINGLE TWO CO-SPONSOR.OOH, I'D LIKE TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY.
TWO SINGLE AND ONE CO-SPONSORED.
WELL CUZ IT'S LIMITING AGAIN, IT, IT, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE, OKAY, I CAN, MAYBE I CAN WAIT THAT CAN WAIT THE NEXT TIME.
BUT THEN YOU'RE BRINGING THREE ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT AND YOU COULDN'T FIND A CO-SPONSOR FOR TWO OF THEM OR FOR ANOTHER WELL, IT'S NOT ABOUT, HEY, I DIDN'T, NOBODY WANTED TO CO-SPONSOR IT.
IT'S MAYBE I'M JUST REALLY BUSY.
OKAY, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO REQUIRE CO-SPONSOR FOR TWO ITEMS THAT ARE DISCUSSION IMPOSSIBLE.
NO CO-SPONSOR FOR, UM, PROCLAMATIONS OR BRINGING ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DENIED.
AND YOU CAN HAVE A SINGLE ITEM AND ALSO TO AMEND, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT KIND OF AMENDMENT DO WE NEED TO DO FOR THE SECTION EIGHT POINT A I IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BE BRINGING SOMETHING BACK THE FOLLOWING MEETING YOU, WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT AT THIS POINT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING CUZ OF THE WAY YOU POSTED THE AGENDA ITEM.
SO, SO THE MOTION IS, I CAN SECOND THAT, DANIEL.
OKAY, SO THE MOTION IS TO ALLOW FOR, UH, ONE INDIVIDUAL SPONSORSHIP MM-HMM.
OR, AND THEN TWO UP TO TWO ITEMS WITH A CO-SPONSOR IN ADDITION TO THE SINGLE, A MAXIMUM OF THREE ITEMS THOUGH.
WELL, MAXIMUM OF FOUR, INCLUDING PRESENTATION PROCLAMATION.
IS THAT CLEAR? AND YOU'RE CLEAR ON YOUR SECOND? YES.
EVERYBODY KNOWS COLLABORATION.
SO, BUT YOU'RE REQUIRING TWO CO-SPONSORED, IS THAT RIGHT? I CAN GET TWO FOR, FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
IF YOU ARE HAVING THREE, THEN YOU ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO CO-SPONSORS.
IF YOU'RE HAVING TWO, THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE ONE ON ONE.
SO THE, THE MOTION, UH, THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS TO ALLOW FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SPONSOR, UH, UH, UP TO ONE ITEM INDIVIDUALLY AS A PRESENTATION.
UH, UP TO ONE ITEM INDIVIDUALLY AS A COUNCIL ITEM UNDER THE REGULAR AGENDA.
UH, AND A SECOND AND A THIRD IN THE REGULAR AGENDA.
IF THAT ITEM INCLUDES A COSPONSOR, COSPONSOR, WAIT, WAIT, WHAT? DO YOU WHAT? I MEAN YOU GET ONE INDEPENDENT, RIGHT? YES.
AND IF YOU WANNA BRING THE SECOND OR A THIRD, YOU NEED A C**N.
THAT'S MY IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCILOR HEISER? I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION.
HE HAS TO MAKE THE AMENDMENT PROPOSAL FIRST BEFORE HE SAY THIS.
YOU CAN SP YOU CAN HAVE TWO OF YOUR OWN ITEMS. ONE, IF YOU WANT A THIRD ITEM, IT HAS TO BE CO-SPONSORED.
SO I WANT TO FLIP WHAT YOU SAID.
I DON'T LIKE THAT LOOK, BUT THIS IS COLLABORATION.
UH, THIS, THIS HAS TO, EVERYONE HAS TO, THIS IS GOING TO BE PASSED.
I, I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO WALK AWAY FEELING LIKE THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING COOL.
I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A FIGHT.
I'D RATHER JUST WALK AWAY FROM, I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU HAD THAT ABOUT FIVE SECONDS AGO.
WELL, YOU GOTTA TAKE THE W AND MOVE.
THAT'S NOT THE, NO, UH, SO THAT, THAT'S THE MOTION.
I'LL SECOND TWO ITEMS. SECOND.
UM, FOR, UH, THE MOTION IS TO AMEND THE MOTION.
AND TO CHANGE IT FROM ONE INDIVIDUAL ITEM TO TWO INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. YES.
AND WHILE YOU NEED, IF YOU WANT A THIRD ITEM, IT HAS TO HAVE A CO-SPONSOR.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, A ROLL CALL.
SO IT'S JUST TO AMEND THE MOTION.
WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE ON THE ACTUAL ITEM ITSELF.
READY COULD HAVE EVER YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH.
I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA VOTE FOR THAT RIGHT? IN THE AMENDMENT? YES.
SO, SO I, I I REALLY DO APOLOGIZE.
IT GETS LATE AND WE GET LESS EFFECTIVE THE LATER IT GOES.
SO, ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO TWO.
SO NOW WE HAVE THE ORIGINAL MOTION ON THE TABLE.
UM, I WANT TO, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO, BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY.
UH, AND, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE MAYOR NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCEEDING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCLUDE THE MAYOR FROM THIS PROCESS.
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MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY, OR MOTION TO AMEND MADE BY THE MAYOR.IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? WELL, OKAY, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER SITUATION.
THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AT ALL.
I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THE CHARTER AND I'M NOT, I MEAN, CAN WE BRING THAT BACK? CAN WE POSTPONE THAT? BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE IN FAVOR OF IT NEXT, NEXT TIME EITHER.
SO THAT'S VERY JUDGMENTAL OF YOU.
I THINK MAYBE, I MEAN, IF I JUST READ IT.
SO THE CITY CHARTER OUTLINES THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER SET THE AGENDA, WHICH IS ALREADY THE POINTS THAT I'VE MADE.
BUT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER SETS THE AGENDA.
CITY COUNCIL PLACES, ITEMS ON THAT AGENDA THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER SET.
THIS IS HOW IT'S OUTLINED IN, IN THE CITY CHARTER.
SO WHAT THIS, THIS, THIS REQUIREMENT THAT THE MAYOR BE SUBJECTED TO THIS IS CAUSING ME TO HAVE TO DO MULTIPLE THINGS THAT AREN'T TRANSPARENT, SUCH AS NOT HAVE A SPONSOR ON THE RULES OF, UH, ON THE AGENDA ORDER ITEM.
IT JUST EXISTS ON THE AGENDA, WHICH YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, SOMEONE'S SUPPOSED TO PLACE IT THERE.
UH, SECONDARILY IS THE, UH, THE SECONDARY ITEM, WHICH IS THE, UH, CIP P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION, WHICH IS AN ONGOING ITEM THAT SHOULD BE THE MAYOR'S SPONSOR WAS THE MAYOR'S SPONSOR.
BUT I REMOVED IT AND MADE IT LEON'S.
AND IT SHOULDN'T BE LEON'S BECAUSE IT IS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENT HEADS PRESENTING ON THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA.
WELL, WHY CITY MANAGER? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT I, I THOUGHT IT USED TO BE CITY MANAGER.
SO MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS MY SPONSOR ITEM.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I'D LIKE TO CALL A POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE.
YOU NEED TO, OH, YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN POINT OF ORDER.
I'M CERTAINLY NOT VOTING FOR THAT CALL.
WELL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FLOOR IN ORDER TO CALL THE QUESTION YOUR POINT OF ORDER WOULD'VE WORKED.
COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW, YOU VOTE.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION.
THIS IS JUST CALLING THE QUESTION, CORRECT? NO, THIS IS FOR THE MOTION OF THE MAYOR TO BE EXCLUDED FROM NO, IT'S ACTUALLY IT IS CALLING THE QUESTION.
SO IT'S JUST FORCING THE VOTE ON THE YEAH.
DO WE WANNA STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS OR NOT? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
SO NOW WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE MOTION TO AMEND.
IS THIS AMENDMENT GONNA BE BOTH THE MAYOR AND THE, THE QUESTION'S BEEN CALLED? YES.
I DON'T, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO, THERE WAS TWO AMENDMENTS, CORRECT? THERE'S YOUR AMENDMENT AND THE AMENDMENT THAT BEAR HEISER MADE, CORRECT? NO, THAT AMENDMENT IS ALREADY BA NOW A PART OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
SO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, THE BASE LEVEL MOTION IS, I KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED CAUSE WE'RE MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS.
BASE LEVEL MOTION IS NOW WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER CHANGED IT TO.
THIS IS IN A MOTION TO AMEND, TO EXCLUDE THE MAYOR FROM THIS PROCESS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BASELINE MOTION.
CAN THE MOTION BE STATED AGAIN PLEASE? SO THE MOTION THAT IS ON THE TABLE IS TO ALLOW FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO SPONSOR, UH, ONE PROCLAMATION OR PRESENTATION INDIVIDUALLY WITHOUT A CO-SPONSOR, TWO REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS, UH, INDIVIDUALLY WITHOUT A CO-SPONSOR.
AND IF THEY WISH TO HAVE A THIRD REGULAR ITEM, IT REQUIRES A CO-SPONSOR AND EXCLUDES THE MAYOR FROM THE THESE RULES.
IS THERE A WAY AT THIS POINT TO SET TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO? NO, IT'S ALREADY PASSED.
YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
[IX. Executive Session]
ALL RIGHT.NOW WE'RE GONNA GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
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MAYOR, CLEAR ALAR, REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION ON THIS.WE WOULD TYPICALLY BRING A DOCUMENT BACK.
WITH THE RULES OF COUNCIL AMENDED.
SO, SO THIS IS, IS THIS DIRECTION TO BRING THE DOCUMENT BACK? IT WAS PROPERLY POSTED TO AMEND THE RULES.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO, TO NOT, SO WE'VE CLARIFIED VERY SPECIFICALLY EXACTLY WHAT THOSE RULES ARE.
THEY CAN BE CODIFIED IN THE RULES OF COUNSEL, AND WE DO NOT HAVE TO BRING IT BACK.
WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO ADDRESS THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS, BUT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IT'S PROPERLY POSTED AND THE THE CHANGE HAS BEEN MADE.
IT'S NOT DIRECTION TO BRING IT BACK, IT'S TO AMEND.
UH, PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME TO SEE NECESSARY.
DURING THIS MEETING, CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5 51 OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING TOPICS.
AND THAT IS AGENDA ITEMS, UH, NUMBER 20 AND 21.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
IT IS 11:32 PM THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THERE WILL BE NO ACTION TAKEN.
NOW I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY'S ATTORNEY AND CITY STAFF TO PROCEED IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH, UH, THE RELEVANT PARTIES FOR THE TWO AGENDA ITEMS WE JUST DISCUSSED AS DIRECTED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO, TIM, IS THE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.