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EVENING EVERYONE.

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THE TIME IS

[I.  Call Meeting to Order]

SEVEN 15.

IT IS TUESDAY, APRIL 18TH, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.

WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE COLOR? ROLL MITCHELL.

HERE.

TOBIK HERE.

HI.

FLOORS HERE.

THANK YOU.

FLORES.

KALE.

HERE.

ZUNIGA HERE.

BRADSHAW HERE.

PARSLEY HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

NEXT UP, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[II.  Approval of Minutes]

MAYOR, LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL'S SPECIAL MEETING ON APRIL 1ST, APRIL THE FOURTH, AND ALSO THE RECORD MEETING FOR APRIL 4TH, 2023, INCLUDING SPECIAL MEETINGS.

SECOND AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECONDED BY COUNCIL MAYOR FLORES KALE, DO WE APPROVE THE MINUTES? IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL MOTION CARRIES.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT

[III.  Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

UP IS CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.

AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO SO.

UH, WE DO ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE FOLKS, UH, WHO HAVE REGISTERED TO SPEAK.

UH, FIRST UP LOYN, UH, LAUREN FOYER.

DID I GET IT? LAUREN FOYER FOE.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

JUST GO.

YES.

HI, I'M LAUREN FOYLE, THE PRESIDENT OF PAL'S PEPPER LITTER OF CENTRAL TEXAS.

UM, IT HAD COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM ON 18 THAT IS PROPOSED TO, UM, CARRY OUT SOME VO LOWCOST VOUCHERS THROUGH EMANCIPATE.

UM, I AM EXCITED THAT THE COUNCIL AND CI CITY OF KYLE ARE INTERESTED IN FUNDING, UH, MONEY FOR THEIR CITIZENS TO GET THEIR ANIMALS FIXED.

UM, I'M HERE JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME STATS ON YOUR CITY AND WHAT, UM, PALS HAS BEEN DOING TO HELP YOU GUYS TO HELP YOU MAKE THE DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT FOR THIS FUNDING.

UM, PALS FIXED ABOUT 2,731 ANIMALS LAST YEAR.

KYLE WAS THE SECOND LARGEST CITY THAT APPLIED FOR OUR LOW COST AND VOUCHER BASED SERVICES.

WHEN I SAY VOUCHER, IT'S A FREE SPAN NEUTER FOR KYLE RESIDENTS.

UM, OUT OF THE 2000 700 337, WHERE OF KYLE RESIDENCE? UH, AS FAR AS ADDRESSES, I KNOW THERE'S SOME DISCRE OF CITY AND OUTSKIRTS, BUT WHO HAD A KYLE RESIDENT, UM, ON THEIR ADDRESS.

UM, AND 240 OF THOSE WERE FREE VOUCHERS THAT PAL FUNDS THROUGH OUR OWN GRANTS AND DONORS.

UM, SO WE HAVE GROWN EXPONENTIALLY EVEN FROM LAST YEAR.

SO THIS YEAR, UM, PALS HAS FIXED, UH, 1,454 ANIMALS, UM, FROM JANUARY TO MARCH.

UM, AND OUT OF THOSE WE HAVE, UM, FIXED 144 FROM KYLE THAT HAD A KYLE ADDRESS.

UM, FROM JANUARY TO MARCH, WE HAD 192 APPLICANTS.

AND SO WE'VE ALMOST SERVICED ALL THE APPLICANTS THAT KYLE'S HAD HAS ASKED FOR.

OUT OF THE 1 44, 65 WERE THE FREE VOUCHERS.

THE OTHER WERE THE LOW COST OPTION THAT THEY CLICKED TO HAVE.

UM, IF THIS 10 TREND CONTINUES TO GROW, UM, WE EXPECT ABOUT 700 APPLICANTS FROM KYLE TO REQUEST OUR LOW COST AND FREE VOUCHER SERVICES.

UM, AND THAT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.

UM, SO, UM, I'M JUST EXCITED THAT YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING YOUR RESIDENTS IN THIS, UM, SPAY NEUTER PROGRAMS AND TO CONSIDER USING PALS AS ONE OF YOUR VOUCHER RECIPIENTS.

UM, WE'RE HAYES COUNTY BASED NONPROFIT, THE ONLY LOW, LOW COST AND FREE VOUCHER SERVICE FOR OUR HAYES COUNTY.

WE'RE SERVICING YOUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF YOU GUYS WANTED TO INVEST BACK INTO THE, UM, NONPROFIT THAT'S RIGHT HERE, CUZ WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HELP YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF Y'ALL WANTED TO, UM, CONSIDER USING PALS IF YOU DO APPROVE SPENDING THIS MONEY, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY AWESOME.

AND THAT'S IT.

, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW I SPOKE REALLY FAST CUZ I WAS AFRAID THREE MINUTES WAS GONNA BE THAT'S OKAY.

SHORTER THAN WHAT I THOUGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, LAUREN.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP.

SARAH LEK.

HELLO.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

I HAVE COME TO YOU TODAY TO REACH OUT ABOUT THE VIBE TRAIL.

I KNOW THAT ME AND MY HUSBAND SPOKE ABOUT

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THIS ON THE MARCH 21ST MEETING AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY RESPONSE, SO I'M COMING AGAIN TO SPEAK AGAIN ABOUT IT.

IT IS OUR HOPE TO CONNECT WITH THE CONSTABLE MEMBER TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES TO THE VIBE TRAIL.

UH, PLEASE LET ME BE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE VIBE TRAIL.

WE LIKE THE IDEA OF THE INTER OUTDOOR CONNECTIVITY AND, AND WALKING TRAILS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.

HOWEVER, OUR FEAR IS THAT BY ADDING THIS PAVED TRAIL WHERE IT'S PROPOSED TO GO, WE RISK ELIMINATING MANY OF THE NATURAL PATHWAYS THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND ALREADY BEING USED BY WALKERS AND DIRT BIKES AND BICYCLISTS, UM, THAT WE SEE.

WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE PAVED TRAIL NEXT TO OUR HOUSE, AS WELL AS NEIGHBORING HOUSES.

UM, IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO LOOK OUT OUR BACKYARD AND SEE 12 FOOT CONCRETE PAD WHERE THERE'S TREES AND GRASS GROWING.

NOW, UM, ARE THERE PLANS TO PROVIDE A, A BUFFER BETWEEN THE PAVEMENT AND THE RESIDENT'S HOMES? IF SO, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THE EXISTING FLOODPLAIN? I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, BUT I'D LIKE TO MEET WITH ONE OF YOU TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS, SPECIFICALLY HOW IT PERTAINS TO THE SILVERADO COMMUNITY AS IT GOES THROUGH SILVERADO.

UM, AFTER OUR MEETING WITH THE PROJECT DESIGNER SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND WITH OUR HOA, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD NUMEROUS TIMES TO APPROACH CITY COUNCIL ABOUT IT.

UM, AND NOBODY SEEMS TO GIVE US ANSWERS.

TWO, THREE.

I'D LIKE TO MEET WITH ONE OF YOU TO ADDRESS WHAT I STRUGGLE TO SEE ABOUT THIS PROJECT VERSUS WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING BUILT.

PERHAPS THAT COULD HAVE SOME RESOLUTION AND PEACE OF MIND FOR ME AND OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR NEIGHBORS OF SILVERADO, AND THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH CITY OF KYLE RATHER THAN TRYING TO BUTT HEADS AGAINST EACH OTHER.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SARAH.

THAT'S ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD? YES, SORRY.

MY NAME IS MARISELA VASQUEZ.

MY, MY ADDRESS IS 2 28 RUBY LAKE.

PLEASE INTERPRET.

OKAY, GOOD EVENING.

PEDRO HERNANDEZ.

UM, MAYOR, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MS. ALVARADO HAS ASKED THAT I, UH, UH, DELIVER HER MESSAGE, UH, DUE TO HER NOT SPEAKING, UH, ENGLISH VERY WELL.

UM, MS. ALVARADO IS HERE THIS EVENING ASKING THE COUNCIL IN THE CITY TO CONSIDER REMOVING THE NOTE PARKING SIGNS ON ONYX LAKE.

UM, SHE LIVES THERE, UH, ON THE CORNER OF RUBY LAKE AND ONYX LAKE.

AND WHEN HER OR HER FAMILY PARK ON ONYX LAKE, THEY HAVE RECEIVED CITATIONS.

SHE SPECIFICALLY HAS RECEIVED TWO CITATIONS IN HER.

UH, HER FAMILY FINDS IT DIFFICULT TO COME VISIT AND STAY, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY DURING CERTAIN HOURS AND TIMES BECAUSE OF THE NO PARKING, UH, SIGNS.

UH, IN HER OPINION, UH, ONYX LAKE DOES NOT SEE AN INFLUX OF, UH, PARKING ISSUES, UH, AS THOSE SIGNS WERE INITIALLY PUT UP THERE DUE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF, UH, STUDENT PARKING, OVERFLOW PARKING FROM LAYMAN HIGH SCHOOL, UH, IN HER OPINION THAT, UH, THAT DOES NOT BLEED OVER ONTO LAKE.

SO SHE'S ASKING THAT, UH, YOU ALL CONSIDER REMOVING THOSE SIGNS.

OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CAN I GET THAT? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE.

I'M GONNA CLOSE.

CITIZEN COMMENTS, CITIZEN COMMENTS IS NOW CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ORDER.

[IV.  Agenda Order]

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WISH TO MOVE ON THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO PRESENTATION.

UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE,

[5.  National Crime Victims' Rights Proclamation. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]

NATIONAL CRIME VICTIM'S RIGHTS PROCLAMATION.

COUNCIL FORK.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, I'M JUST GONNA WHERE MY PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS THE FIRST NATIONAL CRIME VICTIM'S RIGHTS WEEKS WAS PROCLAIMED BY PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN IN APRIL, 1981.

WHEREAS IMPACT OF CRIME OR TRAUMATIC EVENT CAN LEAD A LASTING, PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, OR FINANCIAL IMPACT ON PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, GENDERS, ABILITIES, AND OF ALL ECONOMIC, RACIAL AND SOCIAL BACKGROUNDS.

ANYONE CAN BE A VICTIM THE TERM, WHEREAS THE TERM VICTIM IS MORE THAN JUST A LABEL AND HAS A LEGAL STANDING AND PROTECTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.

WHEREAS CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS PASSED HERE IN TEXAS AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, GUARANTEED VICTIMS THE RIGHT TO MEANINGFUL MEANINGFULLY PARTICIPATE IN THEIR CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCESS.

WHEREAS VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS, ADVOCATES, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, ATTORNEYS, AND OTHER ALLIED PROFESSIONALS CAN HELP SURVIVORS FIND THEIR JUSTICE BY ENFORCING THESE RIGHTS.

WHEREAS VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS AND ALLIED PROFESSIONALS

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CAN REACH MORE VICTIMS THROUGH INNOVATIVE TRAUMA INFORMED PROGRAMS SUCH AS TELEHEALTH SERVICES AND MULTI-DISCIPLINARY TEAMS. WHEREAS VICTIM SERVICES PROVIDERS AND ALLIED PROFESSIONALS CAN INCREASE ACCESS TO VICTIM SERVICES AND COMPENSATION IN AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED, MARGINALIZED, AND ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY INEQUALITY, BY IMPLEMENTING CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE, CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE SERVICES.

WHEREAS ENTITY AND INCLUSION ARE FUNDAMENTAL PREREQUISITES TO SURVIVOR CARE AND SURVIVOR-LED SERVICES THAT PROVIDE VICTIMS WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE THEIR EXPERIENCES ARE ESSENTIAL BLUEPRINTS FOR SUPPORT.

WHEREAS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS' RIGHTS WEEK PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOMMIT TO ENSURING THE ACCESSIBLE, APPROPRIATE, AND TRAUMA INFORMED SERVICES ARE OFFERED TO ALL VICTIMS OF CRIME.

WHEREAS TODAY, THE CITY OF KYLE WISHES TO COMMAND OUR VICTIM SERVICES DIVISION CONSISTING OF A VICTIM COORDINATOR AND AN ADVOCATE.

THE DUO SUPPORTED 717 INDIVIDUALS LAST YEAR WITH SOME OF THE FOLLOWING TRAUMATIC EVENTS, SEXUAL ASSAULT HARASSMENT, SURVIVORS OF HOMICIDE VICTIMS, AND VICTIMS OF FAMILY VIOLENCE.

THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT VICTIM SERVICES DIVISION HAS ALSO ASSISTED THEIR AGENCIES WITH THEIR VICTIM SERVICE NEEDS TO BEST SUPPORT VICTIMS WITHIN THE HAYES COM HAYES COUNTY COMMUNITY.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE WISHES TO COMMEND OUR VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR, KELLY BUR ARON AND OUR VICTIM SERVICES ADVOCATE HANNAH B BICKFORD.

THEREFORE, THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 23RD TO THE 29TH.

2023 AS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK, AND AFFIRMS THE CITY OF KYLE'S COMMITMENT TO CREATING A VICTIM SERVICE AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSE THAT ASSISTS ALL VICTIMS OF CRIME DURING CRIME VICTIMS' RIGHTS WEEK AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND EXPRESSING OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION FOR THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING OUR RESPONSE TO ALL VICTIMS OF CRIME SO THAT THEY MAY FIND RELEVANT ASSISTANCE, SUPPORT, JUSTICE AND PEACE.

UH, AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CHIEF BARNETT AND I BELIEVE, UM, WE HAVE OUR COORDINATOR HERE.

IS ANYBODY ELSE HERE? WE HAVE KELLY.

THERE WE GO.

YES.

YES.

AND IF THEY COULD COME UP AND JUST INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND, AND, AND MAYBE A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT THEY DO.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU MAYOR COUNSEL JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT.

HANNAH B AND KELLY, WHO ARE OUR VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR AND LIAISON, THEY DO AMAZING WORK.

THEY SERVED OVER 700 PEOPLE LAST, UH, YEAR IN THE CITY OF CO WITH THEIR SERVICES.

AND I'LL LET THEM TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS.

THANK YOU.

UM, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS KELLY BARRON.

I'M THE VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR HERE FOR THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, JUST WANNA THANK YOU GUYS, UM, FOR RECOGNIZING WHAT WE DO.

UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT VICTIM SERVICES IS.

AND, AND AS YOU READ, AND AND CHIEF SAID, WE SERVED OVER SEVEN, 700 VICTIMS LAST YEAR.

UM, WHEN I FIRST STARTED IT WITH THE CITY OF KYLE, IN LESS THAN A YEAR, I SERVED ONLY 136 VICTIMS. UM, AND SO IN LESS THAN EIGHT YEARS, WE HAVE MULTIPLIED THAT MANY TIMES.

UM, AND THAT COMES WITH THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY.

IT IS A MUCH NEEDED, UM, SERVICE, AND WE HELP VICTIMS OF ANY TYPE OF CRIME WITH, UM, CRISIS INTERVENTION, ANY TYPE OF RESOURCES, ANY TYPE OF ASSISTANCE THEY NEED.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A GLASS OF WATER.

UM, IT COULD ALSO BE HELPING THEM FIND SHELTER.

IT COULD BE HOOKING THEM UP WITH RESOURCES, UM, TO WORK THROUGH THEIR VICTIMIZATION AND, UM, START THEIR LIVES ALL OVER.

SO WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

OH, OKAY.

DID YOU WANNA TALK TO YOU? I'M GOOD.

OKAY.

, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH YOU GUYS AND TO THE PD IN GENERAL.

YOU GUYS ARE SUCH A GREAT SUPPORT FOR OUR CITY.

UH, I FIRMLY BELIEVE IF YOU CAN'T FEEL SAFE IN YOUR CITY, THEN IT, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT AMENITIES OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT YOU BRING.

SO THANK YOU TO, TO BOTH OF YOU GUYS AND, AND TO THE, THE POLICE IN GENERAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

CAN WE TAKE A PICTURE? YES.

COURSE.

WE CAN DO IT HERE.

CAN WE DO IT HERE? IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO SQUEEZE OR HERE.

DO YOU GUYS WANNA HOLD THIS? SURE.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

1, 2, 3.

1, 2, 3.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD ON THAT PROCLAMATION? THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA

[6.  Presentation of the FLOCK Safety Automated License Plater Reader System. ~ Jeff Barnett, Chief of Police]

ITEM NUMBER SIX, PRESENTATION OF THE FLOCK SAFETY AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS SYSTEM, CHIEF BARNETT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNSEL, JEFF BARNETT,

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CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.

UH, AND I WILL ALSO BE JOINED BY, AT AT LEAST ONE REPRESENTATIVE OF FLOCK SAFETY, PERHAPS TWO.

CONNOR AND HECTOR MAY BE ONLINE JOINING US IN A WELL, SO JOINING US AS WELL.

UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A, UH, TOPIC FOR YOU TONIGHT FOR OUR CONSIDERATION TO USE TECHNOLOGY TO HELP OUR POLICE OFFICERS HELP KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN AROUND NOW FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, AS WE PURSUE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY, THAT WE FIND A COMPANY THAT IS REPUTABLE, A COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THE SERVICE THAT WE NEED, THE SAFETY THAT WE NEED WITH THE DATA COLLECTED, AND PROVIDES A SERVICE THAT WE THINK CAN HELP OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND MAXIMIZE OUR RESOURCES, UH, AS WELL AS ALLOCATING PERSONNEL APPROPRIATELY.

AND, UH, AS STATED, TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MUCH SAFER.

THE TOPIC THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS.

THIS TOPIC, UH, HAS BEEN DISCUSSED HERE IN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS MANY YEARS AGO, BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.

THIS IS NOT THE SAME PROGRAM THAT WE LOOKED AT ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO OR SO.

UM, AT THAT TIME, WE LOOKED AT A PROGRAM THAT WOULD MOUNT CAMERAS ONTO THE POLICE CARS, AND AS THE OFFICERS DROVE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, THOSE READERS, THOSE SYSTEMS, THOSE CAMERA SYSTEMS WOULD READ LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS, KEEP THAT DATA, STORE THAT DATA, AND IF WE NEEDED IT FOR CRIME INVESTIGATIONS OR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, UH, WE, THE OFFICERS AND THE INVESTIGATORS WOULD'VE ACCESS TO THAT.

THERE WERE SOME LIMITATIONS IN THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT WE WOULD KEEP THAT, BUT ALSO, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, AT THAT TIME, IT WAS TO ALERT POLICE OFFICERS TO STOLEN CARS, TO CARS THAT WERE WANTED OR BEING LOOKED OUT FOR BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, PERHAPS BECAUSE OF A MISSING PERSON OR A KIDNAPPED CHILD, OR SOME OTHER NEED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO, TO BE AWARE OF THAT CAR'S PRESENCE.

UM, IN THE THINGS THAT I JUST MENTIONED, UH, THAT PROGRAM DIDN'T REALLY WORK OUT.

IT WASN'T THE BEST NEED AND BEST NEW SUIT FOR THE CITY AT THAT TIME.

THERE WERE SOME OTHER COMPONENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH COLLECTING PAYMENTS FOR WARRANTS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WERE JUST OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THAT KIND OF PROGRAM.

WHAT WE HAVE HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A COMPANY CALLED FLOCK SAFETY.

FLOCK SAFETY IS USED ALL ACROSS THE NATION, VERY SPECIFICALLY.

IT IS USED IN OUR NEIGHBORING AGENCIES HERE IN HAYES COUNTY AND IN CENTRAL TEXAS, BUT AGAIN, ACROSS THE NATION AND SP AND ACROSS THE STATE, FLOCK SAFETY IS OFFERING US THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY FOR FIXED MOUNTED CAMERAS THAT WE WOULD PLACE IN, IN GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS OF THE CITY WHERE WE NEED TO, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BUSINESS DISTRICT, THOSE POLE MOUNTED CAMERAS WOULD RECORD, UH, LICENSE PLATE DATA, STORE THAT DATA FOR A PERIOD OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT IS 30 DAYS.

WE HAVE A POLICY, UH, DRAFT POLICY THAT WE'VE ATTACHED ALSO FOR YOUR REVIEW.

KEEP THAT FOR INVESTIGATORS TO USE TO HELP SOLVE CRIMES.

IT WOULD ALSO ALERT OUR OFFICERS THAT ARE ON PATROL AND OUR DISPATCH, CENTER OF INCOMING STOLEN VEHICLES INTO OUR COMMUNITY OF INCOMING VEHICLES THAT HAD A MISSING PERSON IN THE VEHICLE, OR AGAIN, MISSING OR ENDANGERED CHILDREN.

THINGS WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE ALREADY AWARE OF THE VEHICLE, THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING FOR THE VEHICLE.

THIS TECHNOLOGY JUST HELPS 'EM SEE THAT WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED CARS, THIS HELPS 'EM KEEP THEIR EYES ON THE ROAD A LITTLE BETTER.

LETS THE CAMERA SYSTEM DO THAT WORK SO THAT THEY'RE NOT PHYSICALLY HAVING TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE LICENSE PLATE AS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE CAR, UH, THAT THAT MAY BE COMING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.

UH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THEM TO GO WALK THROUGH A SHORT AND BRIEF PRESENTATION ABOUT THEIR TECHNOLOGY, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

I WILL, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT THIS ITEM, UH, HAS BEEN WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S APPROVED BUDGET.

THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR WE WEREN'T READY TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL LAST YEAR, AND PRESENTED FOR DISCUSSION.

WE WERE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE FELT LIKE WE FOUND THE RIGHT COMPANY, THE RIGHT PRODUCT, THE RIGHT SAFETY PROTOCOLS, THE RIGHT PROTOCOLS THAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD WANT US TO HAVE IN PLACE WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT FORWARD AGAIN, THIS, UH, BRINGING IT FORWARD THIS YEAR.

AND AS A REMINDER, WE DO HAVE AN ALLOTMENT OF FUNDS, $50,000 THAT WAS APPROVED DURING OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MONEY.

TONIGHT IS ONLY A PRESENTATION.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A DECISION EITHER.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS TECHNOLOGY AWARE TO THE COUNCIL AND SHARE THE TYPE OF INFORMATION.

AND IF I COULD TURN IT OVER TO LET THEM WALK YOU THROUGH THEIR BRIEF POWERPOINT AND GIVE YOU THE, THE GOOD DESCRIPTION.

AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW THAT APPLIES TO THE COLL POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND CONNOR, IF YOU'RE ONLINE, IF YOU COULD JOIN US AND I'LL LET YOU OR HECTOR TAKE OVER.

AND I SEE CONNOR'S HERE ON THE, ON THE SCREEN.

AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM, SIR.

YEAH, I'M HEARING AVAILABLE.

UH, DO WE HAVE A POWERPOINT? IT'S READY TO MOVE THROUGH, OR IS THAT, IS THAT ME TAKING YOU THROUGH, THROUGH, UM, IT HAS IT ATTACHED TO THE, UM, COUNCIL PACKET, SO WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GIVE THEM JUST A SECOND TO SWITCH OVER.

AND IF NOT, WE MAY ASK YOU TO, TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN.

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OKAY.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE SHARING YOUR SCREEN? LET HIM SHARE.

OKAY.

CAN YOU SHARE THIS? YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WHILE YOU'RE GETTING IT SET UP, I'LL JUST, I'LL KIND OF CONTINUE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION.

ARE YOU ABOUT READY, YOU THINK, THOUGH? UH, JUST GIMME ONE SECOND HERE.

YES, SIR.

WHEN WE COME BACK AFTER HIS PRESENTATION AND QUESTIONS, I'LL BE SURE TO, AGAIN, TO SHARE WITH YOU HOW THIS WOULD BE DEPLOYED HERE IN THE CITY OF CO TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR POLICY, UH, TO SOME DEGREE, AND MAKE SURE THAT I SHARE ANY INFORMATION OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT REGULATED.

SHOULD WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY FOR THIS PRODUCT? LOOKS LIKE I'M HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE HERE.

ARE YOU GUYS ABLE TO SEE THAT? NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT NOW? UH, Y YES.

FANTASTIC.

YES, YOU'RE GOOD.

SO, COUNSEL, APPRECIATE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO APPROACH, UH, THIS EVENING.

UM, AS CHIEF MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE CITY AND THE, THE DEPARTMENT THERE FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, AND JUST, UM, SORT OF EDUCATING THEM ON WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY'S CAPABLE OF AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY DO FOR THE CITY.

UM, PART OF THAT IS BY KIND OF PROVING SUCCESS ELSEWHERE, AND I'LL, I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF FLOCK SAFETY AND, AND WHO WE ARE, UM, OUR MISSION IS, IS PRETTY SIMPLE AS TO PARTNER WITH COMMUNITIES TO ELIMINATE CRIME FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND WE WERE ACTUALLY STARTED, UH, OUT OF ATLANTA, GEORGIA BY A GENTLEMAN NAMED GARRETT LANGLEY.

UM, NOW GARRETT LIVED IN A SUBDIVISION LIKE, UH, MANY OF YOU MAY TODAY.

AND THEY WERE EXPERIENCING SOME PETTY THEFT, UH, ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, PACKAGES BEING STOLEN OFF DOORSTEPS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL BURGLARIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND GARRETT SUPPLIED, UH, SOME FOOTAGE FROM HIS RING DOORBELL TO THE LOCAL PD.

NOW, THE ISSUE THERE, UH, THAT THEY MENTIONED TO HIM WAS, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANYTHING WE CAN DO WITH THAT.

YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'RE BETTER OFF TRYING TO GET A LICENSE PLATE.

UM, SO WHAT HE DID WAS WENT AND GET, GOT A QUOTE FOR LICENSE PLATE READERS, UH, FOR HIS COMMUNITY.

UH, THE QUOTE WAS, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY COST-PROHIBITIVE.

UH, WHEN HE BROUGHT THAT BACK TO HIS BOARD, IT WAS REALLY A NON-STARTER.

AND SO, UH, THE ELEC, THE ELECTRICAL ENGINEER THAT HE IS, HE ACTUALLY, UH, PROGRAMMED AN APP ON HIS PHONE, UM, PUT IT IN A PLASTIC CASE, AND THEN MOUNTED IT TO A POLE IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WITHIN A COUPLE WEEKS, HE HAD A, HE HAD A LICENSE PLATE TO SUPPLY TO THE, THE PD THAT IS LITERALLY HOW OUR TECHNOLOGY AND COMPANY, UH, WERE BORN.

AND, UM, VERY QUICKLY WE RECOGNIZED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOW BY POSITIONING TO DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS, BOTH ON THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SIDE, UM, AND HAVING SOME PRETTY STRINGENT, UH, OPERATIONAL AND DATA CONTROLS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE PRETTY EFFECTIVE, UH, GOING TO MARKET.

WHAT WE OBSERVE IN THE MARKET TODAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN SPEAKING WITH AGENCIES AND, UM, HOAS AND COMMERCIAL SPACES IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AGENCIES WE WORK WITH, THEY, THEY HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES.

UM, HEADCOUNTS VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO COME BY, UM, PARTICULARLY THE HEADCOUNT THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD REQUIRE.

UM, CRIME IS CONTINUALLY ON THE RISE, AND REALLY THERE'S, UH, A TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST LEVEL THAT'S NEEDED MORE THAN EVER THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITIES.

UH, FOR US, THE, THE OPPORTUNITY LIES IN TECHNOLOGY.

UM, HOW DO WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO MULTIPLY THE FORCE, UH, GIVE THEM SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES IN THEIR DAY-TO-DAY, UM, AND ALLOW THEM TO KIND OF DO WHAT THEY DO BEST.

UH, WHAT WE ARE DOING THERE IS TRYING TO CAPTURE THE MOST OBJECTIVE THING POSSIBLE, UH, WHICH IS A VEHICLE, RIGHT? AND SUPPLY THAT TO THE RIGHT USER, RIGHT? SO THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTED TO ACTUALLY USE THE SOFTWARE.

UM, THE

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OTHER THING WE WANT TO DO IS REALLY ENGAGE THE COM, THE COMMUNITY LIKE WE'RE DOING TODAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY BEING OUT THERE AND EDUCATING ON WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY DOES AND, AND, AND DOES NOT DO.

UM, SO HOW DOES THE TECH, UH, AM I ON THE RIGHT SLIDE? SORRY, ONE SEC.

UM, SO HOW DOES THE TECH WORK? UM, SO AS CHIEF MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLACING, UH, THESE DEVICES, UH, AT VARIOUS POINTS THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, A JURISDICTION ON TYPICALLY ON A 12 FOOT MOUNTED POLE.

UM, BUT SOMETIMES WE'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE DEVICES THEMSELVES ARE POWERED BY SOLAR AND LTE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO, IN THAT WAY, BE VERY FLEXIBLE WITH WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO PLACE THESE DEVICES.

NOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE CAPTURING, UM, THE DEVICE IS MO MOTION ACTIVATED.

AND SO IT IS CAPTURING WHEN A VEHICLE PASSES THE WHOLE BACK END OF THE VEHICLE.

UM, THINGS LIKE THE PLATE, UM, ALL THAT DATA IN TERMS OF THE STATE, UH, THE MAKE OF THE VEHICLE, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S A TOYOTA, THE COLOR OF THAT VEHICLE, UH, WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY TAGGED, AND WHAT CAMERA IT WAS TAGGED ON, AND THE NUMBER OF TIMES IT WAS SEEN WITHIN THE LAST 30 DAYS.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CRIME THAT DOES OCCUR, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, UM, YOU KNOW, VEHICLES ARE IMPLICATED AND THEY CHANGE THE PLATE.

AND NOW WE'RE WORKING OFF, YOU KNOW, LIMITED KNOWLEDGE, UH, IN TERMS OF PURSUING THAT CASE.

AND THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE WOULD CAPTURE.

WHAT WE ARE NOT CAPTURING, UM, AS IMPORTANTLY, IS, UH, NO PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT CAPTURING ANY FACIAL RECOGNITION.

THIS IS NOT FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

UM, IT'S STRICTLY FOR CRIME PREVENTION AND REDUCTION.

UH, ANOTHER KIND OF POINT TO AT HOME ON WHAT THE TECH IS AND WHAT THE TECH IS NOT.

UM, SO WE ARE STRICTLY LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION AND VEHICLE RECOGNITION.

UH, WE'RE HERE TO GATHER OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE AND FACTS ABOUT VEHICLES AND NOT INDIVIDUALS.

WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THAT IS ALERT, UH, POLICE OFFICERS EFFICIENTLY ABOUT THOSE, YOU KNOW, WANTED VEHICLES, WHETHER THEY ARE, UH, ON A NATIONAL DATABASE, UM, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO USE THOSE TO, TO PURSUE THESE CRIMES AND, AND SOLVE THEM VERY EFFICIENTLY AND QUICKLY.

UM, WE'RE DOING ALL THAT WITHIN, YOU KNOW, LOCAL AND STATE LAWS.

AGAIN, THE TECH IS NOT HERE TO RECOGNIZE INDIVIDUALS.

IT'S NOT TIED TO ANY PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE IN INFORMATION, AND IT'S NOT USED FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

UM, THE THING I DO WANT TO HIT HOME IS, YOU KNOW, FLOCK SAFETY THINKS VERY STRINGENTLY ON, ON RETENTION.

UM, WE KNOW THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY'S POWERFUL.

AND SO WHAT KIND OF SAFETY PROTOCOLS DO WE HAVE IN PLACE, UM, TO HELP OUR AGENCIES KIND OF, UH, REDUCE LIABILITY? UM, SO THE DATA STORED FOR ROLLING 30 DAYS, RIGHT? IT AUTOMATICALLY DELETES EVERY 30 DAYS.

UM, AND SO WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HOARDING DATA THAT WAY.

SO HOW DOES THIS TECHNOLOGY PREVENT AND EVENTUALLY ELIMINATE CRIME? FIRST OF ALL, IT'S PROACTIVE, RIGHT? WE HAVE REAL TIME ALERTS.

UM, WE'RE TALKING INSIDE OF 10 SECONDS.

WHEN A STOLEN OR WANTED VEHICLE PASSES THROUGH A DEVICE, UM, AND ENTERS THE CITY, WE'RE ABLE TO NOTIFY OFFICERS IMMEDIATELY.

SO IF THERE'S AN AMBER ALERT, OR AGAIN, A STOLEN VEHICLE OR A HOMICIDE, UH, WITH AN IMPLICATED VEHICLE ATTACHED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION INTO THE, THE, THE RIGHT HANDS IMMEDIATELY.

UH, IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVE FOR INVESTIGATIVE PURPOSES.

UM, WE'RE SEEING CLEARANCE RATES, UH, INCREASED DRAMATICALLY, UM, AND THEN EVENTUALLY SEEING CRIME RATES DECREASE.

AND ALL THAT MEANS EVENTUALLY IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DETERRENT FOR, UH, CRIME IN THE FUTURE.

YOU KNOW, ONCE CRIMINALS AND THE FOLKS, WE DON'T WANT, UH, ENTERING OUR JURISDICTION, UM, FIND OUT ABOUT THIS AND, AND SEE KIND OF HOW POWERFUL IT IS, UM, THEY'RE REALLY NOT EVEN TRYING, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT EVEN ENTERING THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY.

AND ALL THAT'S TO SAY IS REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO MITIGATE RISK.

UM, AGAIN, UH, WE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KNOW ETHICS JUST AS MUCH, UH, A AS, AS KIND OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE BUILD.

UM, OF COURSE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE INNOVATIVE.

OF COURSE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE CUTTING EDGE.

UM, BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, DOING THAT IN A WAY THAT, UM, WE KNOW THERE'S SENSITIVITIES IN, IN EACH COMMUNITY.

WE KNOW THAT, UM, AGAIN, TECHNOLOGY IS POWERFUL.

UM, SO WITH THAT, THE FOOTAGE THAT IS

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CAPTURED IS OWNED STRICTLY BY THE AGENCY IN THE CITY.

UH, IT WILL NEVER BE SOLD OR SHARED BY FLOCK SAFETY.

SO AGAIN, WE NEVER SELL, UH, THIRD PARTY DATA.

UM, THE RETENTION, AGAIN, IS 30 DAYS, THEN DELETED.

UH, THE SHORT RETENTION PERIOD ENSURES THAT ALL DATA NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE CRIME IS AUTOMATICALLY DELETED AND UNRECOVERABLE, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, AGAIN, TAKING HUMAN BIAS OUT OF THE CRIME, UH, OUT, OUT OF THE CRIME SOLVING, EXCUSE ME, BY DETECTING OBJECTIVE DATA, WHICH IS THAT VEHICLE AND DETECTING, UH, EVENTS THAT ARE OBJECTIVELY ILLEGAL, RIGHT? SO, STOLEN VEHICLE, PRETTY CLEAR CUT.

UM, THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA STAY PURSUANT OF.

ALL OF THIS DATA IS STORED IN A W S CLOUD, UH, THAT'S GOVERNMENT CLOUD, IT'S END-TO-END ENCRYPTED.

UM, THERE'S A SEARCH REASON THAT IS REQUIRED, UH, FOR EVERY SEARCH THAT'S CONDUCTED WITHIN THE SOFTWARE, RIGHT? UM, SO WE KEEP A TIGHT AUDIT TRAIL OF WHAT'S BEING DONE THAT'S TRACKED ON A PER USER BASIS.

AGAIN, NO FACIAL, UH, NOT PREDICTIVE POLICING, NO PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION.

ONLY INFORMATION TIED TO VEHICLES NOT USED FOR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

WERE NOT CONNECTED TO, TO ANY REGISTRATION DATA OR THIRD PARTY DATABASE LIKE CARFAX FOR THE D M B.

OKAY? UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IN THE PAST IS A TRANSPARENCY PORTAL FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHICH WE BUILD ON SPEC.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO DO IF, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS A PREFERENCE TO DO.

SO, UH, A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT ON THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL.

UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS AGAIN, EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS MUCH AS WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE, YOU KNOW, LOCAL DEPARTMENT, UM, AND HOW DO WE DO THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, SOLVING CRIME AND CLEARING CASES.

THAT'S REALLY HOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE ROI.

UM, SO WE'RE ABLE TO, AGAIN, TRACK THE NUMBER OF READS THAT WERE ENTERING OUR JURISDICTION.

UM, OBVIOUSLY TRACK THE NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, HOTLIST HITS, UM, BUT ALSO HOW DO WE DO THAT AND, AND IN ETHICAL USE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL, AGAIN, IT'S CUSTOMIZABLE.

IT'S REALLY JUST A URL THAT WE CREATE AND WE MAKE PUBLIC, WHETHER WE POST IT ON, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, UH, WEBSITE OR, YOU KNOW, FACEBOOK PAGE, UM, IT'S THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, ANYONE TO GO AHEAD AND CHECK.

UH, WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT'S, UH, KIND OF DEPLOYED WITHIN THEIR BORDERS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR LOCAL DEPARTMENTS ARE USING.

UM, AND AGAIN, ALL OF OUR REPORTING FUNCTIONS ARE THERE FOR, FOR OUR DEPARTMENTS TO KIND OF LEVERAGE THE DATA AND REALLY THE SUCCESS THAT, THAT THE SYSTEM PRODUCES.

SO, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME PITFALLS WITH LPR IN THE PAST.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT BY LEVERAGING THE DATA THAT WE CAPTURE AND, AND HOPEFULLY TURNING THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, ROI.

AND AGAIN, ALL THESE SEARCHES ARE TRACKED.

UM, THAT AUDIT SEARCH, UH, HISTORY STAYS, YOU KNOW, FOREVER.

SO WE HAVE THE ROLLING 30 DAYS IN TERMS OF THE DATA WIPE, THE AUDIT SEARCH, UH, NEVER GOES AWAY.

THE REASON WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TODAY, AND THE REASON WE'RE KIND OF, UH, SPEAKING ALL ACROSS THE STATE IN, IN, IN COUNTRY IS BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY IS PROVING THAT IT, IT ACTUALLY SOLVES AND PREVENTS CRIME.

WE'RE SEEING THE SUCCESSES EVERY DAY.

UM, AND JUST TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT OF FOOTPRINT, UM, WE'RE IN OVER 200 AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE TODAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE AGENCIES ARE GROWING, UH, AFTER THEY ARE ABLE TO QUICKLY PROVE SUCCESS.

AND, UM, WE'RE SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IS, IS ALL IN ON 'EM.

UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GET LOOPED IN WITH, WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT L P R COMPANIES AND TECHNOLOGIES, AND THAT'S FINE.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST, LIKE A LOT OF OUR DELIVERABLES ARE, ARE IN THE WAY THAT WE AUDIT AND, AND TRACK DATA AND, AND EVENTUALLY WIPE IT.

UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SUCCESS STORIES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO UP TO LOUISVILLE, UH, TEXAS, UH, WHERE A COUPLE, UM, THEY WERE SET TO GET MARRIED AND, UM, THEY WERE DOING SOME LAST NIGHT SHOPPING BEFORE THEIR WEDDING.

UH, A SHOPLIFTER SWITCHED OUT THEIR CARTS AND TOOK THE, UH, TOOK THE BRIDE TO BEES PURSE WITH THEIR WEDDING RING AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN CASH.

THE PD ARRIVED ON THE SCENE, UH, VIEWED THE SECURITY FOOTAGE, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CLEAR A VE GET A CLEAR VEHICLE DESCRIPTION, UM, BUT NOT A LICENSE PLATE.

UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE IMPORTANT PIECE.

THE OFFICER THEN USED, UH, THAT DESCRIPTION OF THE VEHICLE, UM, AND FILTERED FOR THE FOOTAGE IN FLOCK, UM, AND EVENTUALLY GOT A PLATE.

THEY SET A CUSTOM, CUSTOM HOT LIST ALERT

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FOR THOSE VEHICLE FILTERS AND THAT PLATE, AND THEY MADE A STOP WHERE THEY FOUND THE STOLEN GOODS, UM, ALL IS THAT TO SAY THAT THE COUPLE FOUND JUSTICE WITHIN A FEW HOURS.

UH, THEY HAD A HAPPY WEDDING THE NEXT DAY.

UM, THE THIEF WAS ARRESTED, UM, OUT IN SAN BRUNO, CALIFORNIA IN JANUARY OF 2022.

UM, FIVE, FIVE SUSPECTS ATTEMPTED TO SMASH AND GRAB AT A JEWELRY STORE, BUT, BUT THEY WERE CHASED OFF BY THE OWNER.

UM, THE SUSPECT, VE VEHICLE IDENTIFI WAS IDENTIFIED USING FLOCK.

UM, THE, THE PD THERE THOUGHT THE SUSPECTS WOULD TRY AGAIN, POTENTIALLY MORE VIOLENT VIOLENTLY.

UM, AND SO THE VEHICLE WAS PLACED ON A CUSTOM HOT LIST.

UH, THE DEPARTMENT THERE RECEIVED A REALTIME ALERT THAT THE SUSPECTS WERE RETURNING, AND OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO LOCATE THE VEHICLE WITHIN SE UH, SECONDS, PREVENTING ANOTHER ATTEMPT JUST TO SHOW, SHOW THAT KIND OF REAL TIME NOTIFICATIONS AND, AND THEIR ABILITY TO RESPOND, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY PREVENT THAT, THAT THEFT.

UM, THIS WAS KIND OF A, A HEAVY, HEAVY STORY OUT OF ATLANTA, UM, IN, IN, OR, SORRY, IN IN GEORGIA AND, AND CHAMBLEE, UM, WHERE OUR COMPANY WAS FOUNDED.

UM, AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE USE CASE OF, OF AMBER ALERTS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, HAPPENS A LOT OUT HERE IN TEXAS.

UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UH, IT WAS A STRANGER ON STRANGER ABDUCTION.

UH, THE MOTHER OF THE CHILD WAS ABLE TO GRAB LIMITED VEHICLE DETAILS.

UM, I THINK IT WAS A WHITE S U V, UM, THEY WERE, SHE WAS ABLE TO SUPPLY THE LOCAL PD WITH THAT, THAT INFORMATION.

UH, THE FLOCK ADMINISTER FOR THAT DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO RUN A SEARCH.

UM, AND HE ACTUALLY FOUND THE VEHICLE, UH, BUT IT WAS REGISTERED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE WRONG PLATE.

UM, AFTER CONDUCTING, UH, A BROADER SEARCH AMONGST DIFFERENT NETWORKS, THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE VEHICLE ON MULTIPLE TAGS, UM, AND GATHER PATH OF TRAVEL.

UH, WERE ABLE TO GATHER, UH, JUST AS A LITTLE BACKGROUND, A PATH OF TRAVEL FOR THE, THE PREVIOUS 30 DAYS.

UM, AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO SEE A HEAT MAP OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT VEHICLE WAS LIKELY HEADED.

UH, THEY RECEIVED A TAG WITH THE VEHICLE HEADING WEST OF THE JURISDICTION, AND THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN OFF-DUTY O OFFICER, UM, THAT RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION AND WAS ABLE TO MAKE A ROUTINE STOP, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AND MAKE THE ARREST AND REUNITE THE, THE BABY WITH THE, WITH HIS MOTHER WITHIN, YOU KNOW, FIVE HOURS, SIX HOURS.

UH, SO PRETTY POWERFUL STUFF, AGAIN, WHEN WE NEED TO RESPOND IN REAL TIME.

UM, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SHARE TODAY.

UH, YOU KNOW, MYSELF, I THINK HECTOR'S ON.

WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, I'LL KIND OF TURN IT BACK TO YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, CONNOR.

UH, MAYOR, COUNCIL, IF I COULD GIVE YOU JUST A FEW VERY, VERY QUICK EXAMPLES OF HOW I THINK WE WOULD USE THIS TECHNOLOGY TO OUR ADVANTAGE HERE IN CAL.

UH, VERY SPECIFICALLY IN, IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE HAD TWO HIGH PROFILE HIT AND RUN FATALITIES WHERE WE HAD, UH, ONE WAS ON A BICYCLE AND ONE WAS OUT FOR A LATE NIGHT JOG.

TWO SEPARATE INCIDENTS, BOTH WERE HITTING KILLED BY PASSING MOTORISTS ON THE, WHILE THEY WERE ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD, AND THE VEHICLE FAILED TO STOP.

THEIR BODIES WERE LATER FOUND THEY WERE DECEASED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

UH, BOTH CASES WERE SOLVED, BUT THEY TOOK WEEKS AND WEEKS.

JUAN ACTUALLY TOOK MONTHS AND MONTHS TO BRING THAT CASE TO FRUITION AND TO IDENTIFY THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE WHO HIT THE PERSON ON THE ROAD, AND THEN FAILED TO STOP AND RENDER ANY AID, LEAVING THEM TO DIE ON THE SO SIDE OF THE ROAD.

WE FEEL THAT THOSE TWO SPECIFIC CASES, HAD THIS EQUIPMENT BEEN IN PLACE AS WE PROPOSED, WOULD HAVE QUICKLY RESOLVED THOSE TWO CASES AND WOULD'VE BROUGHT SOME RESOLVE TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS, UH, WHILE WE WERE CONTINUING THOSE INVESTIGATIONS.

ANOTHER, UH, VERY, AN INCREASING TYPE OF CRIME THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING HERE IN KYLE AND ACROSS THE NATION IS ONE CALLED JUGGING.

JUGGING IS WHEN A GROUP OF CRIMINALS WILL MONITOR LOCAL BANKS, AND THEY WILL WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO LEAVE THE BANK WITH BAGS OF MONEY WITH WHAT THEY BELIEVE ARE ENVELOPES OF CASH.

THEY WILL THEN FOLLOW THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AND AS SOON AS THEY GET OUT OF THEIR VEHICLE, PERHAPS AT LOWE'S, AT THEIR NEXT SHOPPING DESTINATION, WHEREVER THEY WANT TO GO, PERHAPS WE'VE EVEN HAD SOME FOLLOW 'EM TO THEIR HOME.

AND IN THEIR DRIVEWAY, THEY WILL VERY QUICKLY BREAK THE GLASS AND GO IN SEARCH OF THAT MONEY ENVELOPE, THAT MONEY, UH, BAG AND STEAL THE CASH THAT HAPPENS, UH, NUMEROUS TIMES IN OUR STATE, AND HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN, EVEN HERE IN CO THAT'S A TRAVELING GROUP OF CRIMINALS.

AND WE BELIEVE THESE CAMERAS WOULD HELP US BOTH DETECT THEM AND APPREHEND THEM AFTER THE FACT AS WELL.

RECENTLY, A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE HAD AN ARMED ROBBERY WHERE MULTIPLE ARMED INDIVIDUALS ENTERED A LOCAL BUSINESS AT CLOSING TIME.

THEY ROBBED THE EMPLOYEES AND STOLE THE CASH REGISTER AT GUNPOINT.

UH, WE BELIEVE WITH CAMERAS IN PLACE THAT, THAT WE WOULD USE IN THIS PROGRAM, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GAIN INFORMATION ON THE SUSPECTS WITHIN A MATTER OF MINUTES,

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OR CERTAINLY WITHIN HOURS.

AT THE CURRENT MOMENT, WE'RE CONTINUING TO INVESTIGATE THAT WITHOUT THOSE, THOSE LEADS THAT WE COULD HAVE GAINED FROM THIS EQUIPMENT.

AND LASTLY, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT I THINK IS THAT EVERYONE IN THE ROOM IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE WE SEE IT SO PREVALENTLY, NOT ONLY KYLE, BUT OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AS WELL.

VERY REGULARLY, A GROUP OF TEENS, RANDOM GROUP OF TEENS, USUALLY 14 TO 21 YEARS OLD, WILL STEAL A CAR IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND THEY WILL SET THAT CAR SOMEWHERE TO WHAT THEY CALL COOL OFF.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IS THEY STEAL IT ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND THEY GO PARK IT SOMEWHERE OUT OF SIGHT, WHERE POLICE DON'T DRIVE BY AND LOCATE IT, AND THEY LET IT COOL OFF FOR A FEW DAYS.

THEN A FEW DAYS LATER, THEY WILL GO BACK AND PICK THAT VEHICLE UP FROM WHEREVER THEY HAVE IT IN HIDING, AND THEY WILL DRIVE TO THE SURROUNDING OUTLYING AREAS AROUND AUSTIN, WHETHER IT BE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, OR WEST.

THEY WILL BRING THAT STOLEN CAR, LOADED WITH OTHER TEENAGERS INTO OUR COMMUNITY, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 10:00 PM AND 5:00 AM AND THEY WILL DRIVE INTO OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THEY WILL DROP THESE TEENAGERS OFF, AND THEY BASICALLY PARACHUTE OUT.

THEY BAIL OUT OF THE VEHICLES, AND THEY GO SEARCHING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS, PULLING DOOR HANDLES, LOOKING FOR UNLOCKED VEHICLES.

PEOPLE UNFORTUNATELY STILL LEAVE THEIR VEHICLES UNLOCKED WITH VALUABLES INSIDE, INCLUDING WEAPONS.

THEY WILL STEAL THOSE ITEMS, AND IF THEY'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO FIND THE KEYS TO MAYBE THE ADJACENT HUSBAND OR WIFE'S CAR, THE KID'S CAR, THEY WILL STEAL THAT CAR AS WELL.

MANY TIMES WE WILL GET A CALL AT SOME POINT DURING THE NIGHT OF A SUSPICIOUS VEHICLE DRIVING SLOWLY OR PERHAPS TEENS WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

WE GET INTO THE COMMUNITY ONLY TO ULTIMATELY GET INTO A HIGH SPEED PURSUIT WITH THE VEHICLE LOADED WITH YOUNG TEENAGERS, AS IT MAKES ITS WAY BACK INTO AUSTIN AT 100 PLUS MILES PER HOUR ON THE INTERSTATE.

AT SOME POINT, OUR OFFICERS ARE CLOSE ENOUGH, THEY GAIN A LICENSE PLATE, THEY LEARN THAT THE VEHICLE IS ALSO STOLEN FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND AS THEY GET CLOSER TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THE THE LARGER PART, TRAFFIC BECOMES TOO CONGESTED IN THE PURSUIT, BECOMES TOO DANGEROUS TO CONTINUE FOR EVERYONE'S SAFETY.

SO THE OFFICERS PEEL OFF OF THAT, AND WE LET THEM GO.

THAT VEHICLE IS USUALLY FOUND ABANDONED WITHIN 24 HOURS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND OUR VICTIMS HERE IN KYLE HAVE LOST ALL THEIR PROPERTY IN THE MIX.

UM, AND THE OFFICERS MADE THE RIGHT DECISION BECAUSE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS TO PURSUE IN THOSE, THOSE CONDITIONS.

BUT THOSE ARE THE MOST COMMON WAYS I THINK WE WOULD GAIN AN ADVANTAGE.

IT HELPS OUR OFFICERS DO THEIR JOB, BUT WE'RE USING TECHNOLOGY TO LEVERAGE THE NUMBER OF MANPOWER THAT WE HAVE OUT ON THE STREETS, AND I THINK IT WILL MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AS I DID MENTION THAT WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE.

HE REITERATED MULTIPLE TIMES.

THE DATA'S KEPT FOR 30 DAYS.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT PART.

IN ORDER FOR OUR OFFICERS TO DO AN INQUIRY ON A LICENSE PLATE DATA THAT MAY BE OR MAY NOT BE CONTAINED IN THAT DATABASE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN ACTIVE INVESTIGATION.

THEY HAVE TO LOG IT WITH A CASE NUMBER, AND THAT IS TRACKABLE.

SO THERE'S NO RANDOM SEARCHING.

THERE'S, THERE'S SPECIFIC POLICE INVESTIGATIVE NEED TO SEARCH THE DATABASE TO LOOK FOR LICENSE PLATES, AND THEY HAVE TO DOCUMENT THAT WITH A CASE NUMBER SO THAT THE SUPERVISORS AND ADMINISTRATION CAN TRACK THAT.

WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND CONNOR STILL ON THE LINE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER OR FOR CHIEF MAYOR PROTO? YES.

UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE, WITH CHIEF.

UH, IT'S, IT'S TRUE ABOUT THE CRIME AND AREA, AND I KNOW A LOT OF US HERE, WHENEVER WE HEAR THE ALARM GO OFF THE AMBER ALERT, I'M SURE ALL OUR HEARTS DROP, RIGHT? SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT, UM, THAT THIS, UH, TECHNOLOGY WAS ABLE TO RESOLVE, UH, ONE INSTANCE THERE.

SO IF I COULD GET, UH, SOME INFORMATION ON HOW BIG ARE THESE CAMERAS AND WHAT'S THE RADIUS AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS THAT THEY COULD SEE AS FAR AS THE VEHICLE, AND, UM, HOW DO THEY WORK IN, LET'S SAY, WEATHER DURING RAINY WEATHER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO WHERE, UH, ANY OF THE CAMERAS COULD GET, UH, GET WET OR WHATEVER.

ARE THEY STILL ABLE TO WORK IN THAT ENVIRONMENT? AND, AND AGAIN, HOW BIG AND HOW ARE THE, HOW, HOW DO THEY, HOW DOES THE ACTUAL TECHNOLOGY WORK ITSELF? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UH, THE DEVICE ITSELF IS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A, UH, A FOOTBALL.

AND AGAIN, WE PLACE THEM AT A SPECIFIC ANGLE AND HEIGHT RELATIVE TO THE ROADWAY.

SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ROADWAY TRAVELING SOUTH, WE ARE CAPTURING TWO LANES OF TRAVEL GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT, YOU KNOW, AREAS WHERE THESE WILL BE MOST EFFECTIVE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED LIMIT AND, UM, OTHER FACTORS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO WEATHER, UH, LUCKILY TEXAS RESIDES IN, UH, NOT, NOT OUR MOST INTENSE WEATHER STATE.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY WINTERIZE THE, UH, HARDWARE, BUT UM, IN TERMS OF ITS STURDINESS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO WITHSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, HIGH WINDS.

UH, I KNOW WE'VE

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HAD SOME TORNADO WARNINGS IN THIS AREA OVER THE PAST YEAR.

UH, THOSE THINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, WELL, WELL WITHIN OUR CAPABILITIES TO STAY LIVE.

UM, ONE OF THE IMPORTANT FACTORS, UH, IN, IN TERMS OF US AS A PROVIDER IS, UH, IT'S A YEAR TO YEAR KIND OF SERVICE.

AND SO, UH, WHILE THE AGENCY AND CITI OWN THE DATA, WE ACTUALLY CONTINUE TO OWN THE HARDWARE, WHICH MEANS THAT WE UPKEEP IT AND REPLACE IT, UM, AS IT NEEDS REMEDY.

UH, KYLE BEING ATTACHED TO A MAJOR MARKET IN AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE EMPLOY OUR TECHS IN-HOUSE.

UM, SO THOSE FOLKS ARE ABLE TO BE ON SITE IN SHORT ORDER, UH, AGAIN, TO REMEDY ANYTHING THAT DOES, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GO WRONG.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS OUR UPTIME IS, UH, PHENOMENAL WHEN IT COMES TO HARDWARE STANDARDS.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DEALING WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME PRETTY DIFFICULT FACTORS AT TIMES WHEN IT COMES TO WEATHER, DUST, UH, WIND, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT, UM, I THINK THE, THE STATISTICS WILL SHOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABLE TO WITHSTAND THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE CONDITIONS.

OKAY.

AND THEN CHIEF, UM, YOU SAID THAT YOU'VE, YOU'RE CURRENT, AGAIN, A POLICY WRITTEN OUT TO WHERE THIS, IF THIS IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD, WOULD ANY VEHICLES USE THESE, ANY CRUISERS OR THESE ACTUALLY JUST BE MOUNTED IN SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE CITY, AND IN WHICH AREAS OF THE CITY WOULD WE BE CONSIDERING ON PLACING THEM? YOU BET.

SO THE DRAFT POLICY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, UH, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO REDRAFT IT LATER ADDRESSES BOTH, UH, VEHICLE MOUNTED AND, UH, COMMUNITY BASED.

LIKE HE MENTIONED.

THE CURRENT PLAN IS TO DEPLOY COMMUNITY BASED CAMERAS INSTALLED, LIKE HE MENTIONED, ON EITHER POLES, THAT THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE COMPANY OR HE'S ABLE TO USE SOME OF THE TERRAIN.

UM, WE WOULD START WITH THAT.

WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TECHNOLOGY IN THE FUTURE AND WOULD CERTAINLY NOTIFY COUNSEL SHOULD WE EVER SEEK TO MOVE THEM TO A CAR, THE CAR AVAILABILITY.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING SIMPLY MOUNTED COMMUNITY BASED CAMERAS.

OKAY.

AND THEN WILL WE HAVE OFFICERS SPECIFICALLY TRAINED FOR THESE, OR WILL IT BE ACROSS THE BOARD WHERE WHOEVER'S ON SHIFT, OR IF SOMETHING HAPPENED OR THEY'D BE ABLE TO ACCESS THIS INFORMATION, THIS DATABASE? UH, YOU BET WE WOULD TRAIN ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND ALL DISPATCH TELECOMMUNICATORS, AND SO THAT WHEN THEY GET THE ALERT, THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT, THEY KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET THAT.

UH, AND THEN ALL OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS WOULD BE TRAINED ON THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY HAVE A COMPUTER IN THE CAR THAT'S THEIR CAD, COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH.

THIS WOULD BE A SYSTEM OPERATING IN THE BACKGROUND THAT THEY WOULD LOG INTO, MINIMIZE IT AND LET IT DO ITS WORK.

AND IF A STOLEN CAR ENTERS THE COMMUNITY, THEY WOULD BE ALERTED, THEY WOULD BE NOTIFIED OF WHICH CAMERA, THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL, GIVEN THAT PICTURE, ACCESS TO THE PICTURE OF THE VEHICLE AND THE LICENSE PLATE, AND THEN THEY COULD BEGIN THEIR INVESTIGATIVE, UH, OR RESPONSE AS APPROPRIATE.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

YEAH, JUST, UH, AGAIN, F TO END ON THAT NOTE ABOUT MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S CARS ARE LOCKED, UH, SUMMERTIME'S COMING AROUND THE CORNER, I KNOW THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN WHERE THEY COME IN AND THEY START POPPING THE DOORS.

UH, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY LOOK FOR IS GARAGE DOOR OPENERS, BY THE WAY.

YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT PEOPLE LOOK FOR.

VERY GOOD POINT.

YES, SIR.

THEY DO.

AND WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY MOVE INTO A COMMUNITY, THEY WILL TRY TO ATTEMPT TO GET HIT EVERY STREET AND PULL HUNDREDS OF DOOR HANDLES, AND THEY'RE, THEY CAN BE QUITE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE PEOPLE DO SOMETIMES FORGET TO LOCK THOSE CARS AND REMOVE THEIR VALUABLES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO WILL THERE NEED TO BE ANY EXTRA STAFF TO MONITOR OR TO MAINTAIN THIS GREAT QUESTION.

NO, MA'AM.

WE WILL TRAIN ALL SWORN POLICE OFFICERS AND ALL TELECOMMUNICATORS AS A ROUTINE PART OF THEIR DUTY, AND NO ADDITIONAL STAFF WILL BE NECESSARY.

OKAY.

SO WERE THESE, WERE THESE READERS BE USED ON I 35? UH, THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

WE WOULD CERTAINLY ASK THEM TO LOOK AT THE OPTION.

I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE EXIT POINTS OFF OF THE INTERSTATE, JUST FOR THE CLARITY OF THE LICENSE PLATE.

WE WOULD CERTAINLY ASK 'EM TO TEST THEM AND SEE IF THAT'S EVEN A VIABLE OPTION.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE THAT WITH TEXT DOT.

RIGHT NOW OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO PUT THEM ON THE, THE EXTERIOR ROADWAY, NOT NECESSARILY 35, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHEER VOLUME, BUT WE, IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE AN ADVANTAGE IF WE COULD, BUT I WOULD NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THEM.

OKAY.

SO THERE WON'T BE A FOCUS OF LIKE INTER, LIKE CENTER STREET OR, CUZ IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING NOW IT'S JUST GONNA BE BY EXITS.

NO, ACTUALLY, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS WE WANNA MAP OUT, AND WE'VE GIVEN SOME THOUGHT TO IT, WE WANNA MAP OUT THE ENTRYWAYS INTO OUR COMMUNITY WHERE THESE, THESE INDIVIDUALS MAY ENTER OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE STOLEN VEHICLES.

AND THEN WE ALSO WANNA FOCUS IN OUR BUSINESS DISTRICT WHERE THE BANKS ARE LOCATED, WHERE OUR BUSINESSES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ROBBED OR BE INVOLVED SOMEHOW IN, IN ANOTHER TYPE OF CRIME WHERE WE COULD USE THIS TECHNOLOGY.

THAT'S OUR FOCUS, UH, REALLY THE ENTRY POINTS AND THE BUSINESS DISTRICT IS OUR, IS OUR PRIMARY FOCUS.

OKAY.

YOU, YOU BRIEFLY GAVE A DESCRIPTION OF JUGGING AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY MY HUSBAND WAS A VICTIM OF JUGGING.

HE WORKS AT A BANK AND HE HAD

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HIS LAPTOP BAG AND WHO EVER FOLLOWED HIM, WHICH WAS CLEARLY WHAT HAPPENED, UH, TO TRACTOR SUPPLY, BROKE HIS BACK WINDOW, TOOK HIS BAG.

I MEAN, CLEARLY WE HAVE NO BAGS OF MONEY IN MY HOUSE, BUT IT WAS HIS, IT WAS HIS WORK LAPTOP.

SO THAT WAS AN INCONVENIENCE.

CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME KIND OF EXAMPLE SPECIFICALLY WITH THE LAST SITUATION THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT THERE BEING A ROBBERY AT NIGHT, HOW THIS SOFTWARE COULD BE MORE, WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AS OPPOSED TO JUST KNOWING A LICENSE PLATE, LIKE FROM FROM A CAMERA? UM, ABSOLUTELY.

SO THAT NIGHT, UM, THIS WAS NEAR CLOSING TIME, APPROXIMATELY 10:00 PM MULTIPLE ARMED MEN THAT WERE COVERED FROM HEAD TO TOE WITH MASKS AND GLOVES CAME IN ARMED WITH, UH, MULTIPLE FIREARMS. THEY, UH, ABSOLUTELY SCARED AND ROBBED A GROUP OF EMPLOYEES WHO WERE IN THE BUSINESS BY THEMSELVES, UH, IN AS MUCH AS THEY EVEN CHASED THEM OUTTA THE BACK DOOR AND PURSUED THEM FOR A SHORT DISTANCE WHILE THEY RAN OUTSIDE AND HID FOR SAFETY.

UM, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE, UH, ANY CAMERAS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THEIR BUSINESS, THEY WERE UNABLE TO GET A GOOD LOOK AT THE, THE VEHICLE.

BUT HAD WE HAD THESE CAMERAS IN PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE THINK WE COULD HAVE NARROWED THAT DOWN TO A SMALL SELECT NUMBER AT 10:00 PM IN THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS AREA.

WE COULD HAVE, UH, REDUCED THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND GIVEN US SOME TYPE OF DESCRIPTION, OR EVEN BETTER, IF IT CAPTURED THE FULL LICENSE PLATE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME LEADS TO WORK ON.

IT'S NOT ALL INCLUSIVE, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE CAPTURE THAT.

BUT IT CERTAINLY WOULD GIVE OUR DETECTIVES SOMETHING TO FOLLOW UP ON, UH, INSTEAD OF THE VERY LIMITED INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE NOW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

I HAVE A, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

SO NUMBER ONE IS, SO MAYOR PROTE, ASK HOW MANY YOU'RE PLANNING TO DEPLOY.

I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER.

SO WE HAVE AN ALLOTMENT GIVEN BY COUNSEL DURING BUDGET OF $50,000.

NOW HOW MANY, HOW MANY CAMERAS? IT DEPENDS ON HOW FAR THE MONEY GOES.

SO IT'S HOW MUCH $50,000 WILL GET US.

UH, WE'RE TALKING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 15 TO 20, 15 TO 20 IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO GET THE LATEST PRICING.

UH, BUT THAT PUTS US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 15 TO 20.

AND WHEN YOU SPREAD THAT OUT AMONGST ALL OF THE ENTRYWAYS INTO OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND THEN YOU THROW A FEW IN THE BUSINESS DISTRICT, UH, WE WILL RUN OUT PRETTY QUICKLY FROM THAT SMALL NUMBER.

YOU'LL SEE, IT DOESN'T COVER EVERY POINT.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SOLVE EVERY STOLEN VEHICLE ENTERING, BUT IT'LL GIVE US A GOOD HEADSTART.

YOUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER WITH FOLLOWING BUDGET YEARS.

UM, YOU'LL BE MAKING REQUESTS FOR MORE.

IT COULD BE IF WE FIND REALLY GOOD SUCCESS WITH THE PROGRAM AS I THINK WE WILL, AS WE BELIEVE THAT IT SHOWS THAT IT JUSTIFIES ITSELF.

AND DOES THE, UH, DOES THE POLICY THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE LIMIT YOU IN ANY WAY IN TERMS OF WHERE YOU CAN PUT THIS, THESE, OR HOW MANY YOU CAN PUT THEM SO LONG AS IT'S ON A PUBLIC ROAD? NO SIR.

IT DOESN'T.

IT JUST TALKS ABOUT MORE ABOUT THE USAGE AND THE MANNER IN WHICH WE CAN USE IT, THE STORAGE OF DATA.

SO, SO IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT YOU COULD HAVE CAMERAS ON EVERY STREET IN THE, EVERY, WE'LL CALL IT EVERY MAJOR STREET IN THE CITY OF KYLE RUNNING, UH, SURVEILLANCE ON OUR VEHICLES 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

IF YOU WANNA PROVIDE THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT WOULD TAKE, AND I MEAN, HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS, IT CAN CERTAINLY BE POSSIBLE.

WELL IF 50,000 GETS US 1525, THAT'S TO NO, ABOUT 15 ISH.

SO WHAT'S THE INSTALLED PRICE? WELL, I THINK THAT WILL COVER IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LEASE PROGRAM.

WE LEASE THE EQUIPMENT INCLUDED IN THAT LEASE PROGRAM WOULD BE THEM COMING TO INSTALL IT, MAINTAIN IT, AND THEN MOVE IT IF IT HAD TO BE MOVED FOR SOME REASON, LIKE IT WAS INEFFECTIVE OR THE ROAD CHANGED OR IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR SOMETHING.

SO YEAH, 50,000 WE CALL, WE'LL CALL EVERY MAJOR ROAD IN TOWN, PROBABLY YOU'LL HAVE ONE ON, YOU KNOW, ONE 50 WENDY HILL BB, 1626 KOHLERS VETERANS, ONE 50 WEST, EAST, AND WEST.

YES.

CENTER STREET.

YES, EAST AND WEST.

SO IF YOU'RE ON, HAVE A VEHICLE IN THE CITY OF KYLE, YOU WILL BE HAVE YOUR, UH, VEHICLES PHOTOGRAPH TAKEN EVERYWHERE YOU GO, EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU GO PAST ONE OF THOSE.

AND WE'RE, THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT.

YES.

AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TRUST THAT, THAT, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE CRIMINAL, NOT A CRIMINAL SUSPECT, NOT A SUSPECT, HAVE A WARRANT, NO WARRANT, GOOD, BAD OR, OR INDIFFERENCE, YOU WILL BE SURVEILLED ON OUR STREETS.

THESE CAMERAS WOULD ABSOLUTELY CAPTURE IT IF THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB.

YES.

OKAY.

AND IS, HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY INSTANCES OF, UH, DATA SENSITIVE, UH, DATA SUCH AS WHAT IS BEING COLLECTED, UH, BEING, UH, SIPHONED OFF BY HACKERS, UH, OR DATA BEING SOLD TO THIRD PARTIES WHEN THEY WERE PROMISED NOT TO BE SOLD? THOSE ARE DATA BEING LEAKED? THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS AND I HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION AND THEY SAID NO TO ME.

AND I WILL LET HIM TELL YOU THAT HIMSELF CUZ HE'S PREPARED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

I DON'T JUST MEAN FLOCK.

I'M TALKING ABOUT LICENSE PLATE READERS, DATA BEING MISUSED IN ANY WAY.

NONE THAT I'M PERSONALLY AWARE OF, BUT YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

SO NONE THAT I'M AWARE OF.

MAYBE HE CAN ADDRESS THAT.

IF I MAY ADD, MAYOR, ARE WE YES, AS I MENTIONED IN THE PRES, NO, GO AHEAD SIR.

GO AHEAD.

YOU DON'T HEAR ME.

UH, AS I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, ONE OF OUR, UH, ONE OF OUR DELIVERABLES AT FLOCK IS, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR DATA RETENTION POLICY AS WELL AS, UH, THE INABILITY

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TO, TO EVER SELL THIRD PARTY DATA.

UM, THIS IS STATED IN OUR CONTRACT, UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT MOVING TO.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

SO CONNOR, QUESTIONS, I'M SORRY TO, I'M SORRY TO STOP YOU CUZ I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID AND, AND GO THROUGH YOUR POLICY POINTS, BUT DO, DO YOU HAVE STAFF MEMBERS, UH, WHO HAVE, WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA, UH, AT, AT ANY WAY, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM? ANYONE AT YOUR COMPANY SEE THAT DATA AS A PROVIDER? YES.

YOU AS A PROVIDER? WE HAVE TO, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF, YES, WE HAVE TO HAVE LIMITED ACCESS TO, UH, THE DATA TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE IT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE CAN'T PARSE THROUGH THE ACTUAL METADATA IN, FOR INSTANCE, KYLE'S ENVIRONMENT.

UM, AND SO NO, THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN INSTANCE OF THAT.

UM, WE HAVE STRICT PROTOCOLS INTERNALLY, UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AND UH, WHAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.

UM, AND SO THE ANSWER IS NO.

UH, THAT'S NOT, UH, POSSIBLE.

NOT POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

UM, FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, WE WE'RE READING NEWS REPORTS RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY OF, UM, UH, MAJOR SURVEILLANCE BEING, UH, COMPROMISED AND AMERICANS, UH, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND SECRETS BEING COMPROMISED AT A MUCH HIGHER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED LEVEL, UH, THAN THE FLOCK SYSTEM.

AND, UH, UH, AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CLOUD, YOU SAID THE GOVERNMENT CLOUD, I WASN'T REALLY SURE WHAT YOU SAID, BUT THE AWS IS JUST A GENERAL, UH, AMAZON CLOUD-BASED, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ENCRYPTED, BUT OUR EMAILS ARE ENCRYPTED ALSO AND THEY GET HACKED AND COMPROMISED ALL THE TIME.

GOVERNMENT EMAILS IN PARTICULAR CONSTANTLY HACKED.

AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT LICENSE PLATE DATA WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO HACKERS AND OTHER, OTHER TYPES HAVE, HAVE YOU EVER HAD A SITUATION WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS MADE OR THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF ATTEMPTS MADE TO, TO PROCURE THE DATA? YEAH.

AND I WANNA BE CLEAR, UM, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT INTERNALLY AT FLOCK.

UH, THAT DATA TO BE MISUSED, WHICH IS NOT, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

UM, IN TERMS OF A DATA BREACH OR HACK THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED TO DATE.

ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WE HAVE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ENCRYPTION THAT IS ALLOWED, UH, THROUGH AWS GOV CLOUD.

THEY'RE THE LARGEST PROVIDER IN THE WORLD.

UM, AND SO THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, SECURITY AND ASSURANCE THAT I CAN PROVIDE ON THIS CALL.

UH, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S ALL AVAILABLE TO THE CITY IF, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO LOOK INTO IT FURTHER.

SO THOSE, THOSE ARE JUST MY QUESTIONS TO GET FOLKS THINKING ABOUT WHY IT IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SAID NO TO LICENSE PLATE READERS IN THE PAST, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, THIS IS NOT A BETTER PRO PROGRAM IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY OR SURVEILLANCE.

THIS IS WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN 2016, MULTIPLIED BY ABOUT 10, YOU KNOW, UH, LICENSE PLATE READERS OWN VEHICLES.

THE VEHICLE HAS TO BE ON, ON DUTY OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, UH, DOING THAT WORK.

LICENSE PLATE READERS ON POLES, UH, ARE SURVEIL, ARE SURVEILLING EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE THAT CROSSES THE, YOU KNOW, THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THE STREETS, UH, 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY THE PREFERRED METHOD.

IF YOU'RE WANTING TO CAST A COMPLETE AND TOTAL SURVEILLANCE NET OVER YOUR TOWN, I CAN, I CAN SEE THE ATTRACTION.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I CAN SEE THE ATTRACTION, ALL THE DIFFERENT STORIES.

I MEAN, I THINK THERE ARE OTHER STORIES THAT AREN'T BEING PROPOSED HERE.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY I BROUGHT UP CERTAIN STORIES ABOUT HOW PEOPLE'S INFORMATION GETS MISUSED BY COMPANIES JUST LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, ALL THE TIME.

YOU CAN JUST THINK OF THE STORIES OF HOW THIS, THIS MIGHT BE MISUSED, BUT WE'RE BEING TOLD CAN'T HAPPEN, WON'T HAPPEN.

I, I FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S OPTIMISTIC, UH, IN ORDER TO GET THAT THE ASSISTANCE THAT YOU, UH, WANT.

BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY THAT WE SAID, UH, WHAT WE SAID AT THAT TIME.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A GUARANTEE ON DATA PRIVACY.

SO, UM, CUSTOMER, I THINK YOU HAD WANTED TO SAY, OH, SOMETHING, ARE YOU GOOD? SAME THING.

I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, SURVEILLANCE OF VEHICLES, UM, WHERE YOU START TO PICK UP PATTERNS OR, UM, ON THE STREET CAMERA 24 HOURS A DAY.

UH, UM, CHIEF HAS, HAVE WE TALKED WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT ANY KIND OF AGREEMENTS IF WE WERE TO DO THIS? I, I I REMEMBER THERE ARE SOME LICENSE PLATES READERS ALREADY INSTALLED IN CERTAIN AREAS OF, OF OUR CITY, RIGHT? THERE ARE, YES.

SO, UM, IS THE COUNTY, NO, NOT IN THE CITY THAT I'M AWARE OF.

NO.

I BELIEVE THEY HAVE THEM OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS IN THE RURAL AREAS OF HAYES COUNTY.

HOW HAS THE COUNTY, UM, APPROACHED THIS? WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO GO INTO SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT? UH, I DON'T REALLY THINK NECESSARILY AN AGREEMENT IS NECESSARY.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THEM SHARING INFORMATION WITH US? ARE WE SHARING IT WITH THEM? OR, OR WHAT, WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT WOULD YOU THEM TO DO SOME COLLABORATION ON THE FLOCK

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SYSTEM TECHNOLOGY, WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH OTHER CITIES? BECAUSE THE OTHER CITIES IN OUR COUNTY ALREADY HAVE THESE AS WELL, WHERE WE ARE THE WHOLE IN THE COUNTY.

UM, THE COUNTY COVERED THEIRS AND EACH OTHER CITY ENTITY COVERED THEIRS.

OKAY.

UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

HOLD ON.

BURY PARLEY.

THANK YOU.

UM, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE ARE ONLY KEEPING THE DATA FOR 30 DAYS? BECAUSE I WAS READING THAT, YOU KNOW, MOST LICENSE PLATE READERS SYSTEMS, UM, HAVE, UH, UP TO 30 MONTHS TO KEEP IT.

AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS BECAUSE I WOULD EXPECT AT SOME POINT WE SEE, UM, AN ISSUE, WE ARE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE DATABASE AND DETERMINE IF THERE IS, UM, CERTAIN BEHAVIOR IN CERTAIN VEHICLES THAT WE CAN PINPOINT TO CRIME.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, I'LL TELL YOU FROM A PHILOSOPHY STANDPOINT AND A POLICY STANDPOINT, AND THEN I'LL ASK CONNOR IF HE HAS ANY COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT FROM A DEPARTMENTAL POLICY AND A PHILOSOPHY STANDPOINT, WE KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE CONCERNS OF AN INVASION OF PRIVACY OR A MISUSE OF DATA, AND WE WANTED TO PROPOSE A PROGRAM THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT MAKE THOSE WITH THOSE CONCERNS BE MORE COMFORTABLE THAT WE WOULD NOT STORE THEIR DATA FOR LONG-TERM USE, AND IT WOULDN'T BE AS SUBJECT TO, UH, HACKING OR ANY EXTERNAL COLLECTION OF THAT DATA.

AND IT WAS REALLY US TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE START INTO THE PROGRAM, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EFFECTIVE, AND TO TRY TO REACH A COMPROMISE WITH CITIZENS THAT MAY BE CONCERNED OF AN OVERREACH.

AND CONNOR, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT YOUR SYSTEM'S TECHNOLOGY, UH, BUT I KNOW THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A VOLUME OF DATA TO STORE.

SO CONNOR, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS ANYTHING OF CAPABILITIES SHOULD THE COUNCIL WANT IT TO BE STORED MORE THAN 30 DAYS? YEAH, SO THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS TO NOTE.

UM, THE, THE 30 DAY WIPE IS WHAT, IT'S WHAT WE CALL A TIMED LIVE.

UM, IT JUST MEANS THAT ONCE THE DATA IS CAPTURED, IT HAS A HARD TIMESTAMP, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE IMAGE, ON THE METADATA WITH THAT 30 DAY CLOCK, RIGHT? SO IT'S GONNA GO AHEAD AND WIPE IT, YOU KNOW, ON A ROLLING 30 DAY BASIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THERE FOR EXACTLY AS CHIEF MENTIONED, PRIVACY PROTOCOLS.

UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GET INTO A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS, THIS AMOUNT OF TIME AS YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE, HOW LONG IS THE ACTIVE INVESTIGATION KIND OF TAKING, UM, IN THE PAST, HOW, HOW MUCH ARE WE ABLE TO SPEED THAT UP WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REAL TIME NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.

AND WHAT WE SEE IN THE DATA IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACTUALLY SPEED ABLE TO SPEED THAT UP QUITE A BIT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA MISS, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS IN, IN THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU SPEAK OF, UM, WE HAVE SELECT CITIES THAT HAVE DEMOCRAT DEMOCRATICALLY VOTED ON A LONGER RETENTION.

UM, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY SCENARIO WHERE WE WOULD EVEN ENTERTAIN, UM, EXTENDING THE RETENTION.

SO YOUR SYSTEM IS CAPABLE OF KEEPING IT LONGER.

SHOULD BE THE RETENTION.

SORRY, GO AHEAD, COUNSEL.

OH, OKAY.

SO HOW, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE TIME THAT OTHER CITIES THAT ARE USING THE LICENSE PLATE READERS NORMALLY KEEP THIS DATA? BECAUSE TO ME, 30 DAYS, UNLESS YOU ARE ON THE INVESTIGATION, UM, YOU MAY MISS SOME IMPORTANT DATA THAT GETS ERASED, UM, IF IT HAPPENED 35 DAYS AGO.

SO ARE WE SEEING ANY BENEFIT? I WANNA KNOW USUALLY WHAT THE, THE AVERAGE DATA RETENTION IS FOR OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE IT.

YEAH, IT'S AROUND THAT 30 DAY MARK.

UM, WE, WE'VE SET THAT AS A GUIDE.

UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE TALK TO AGENCIES AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE CONVERSATION, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY ADOPT.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, UH, IN TERMS OF THE ROI, SPEED TO VALUE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING MULTIPLE VE VEHICLE RECOVERIES ON DAY TWO OF GO LIVE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TRAINING AN AGENCY, THEY'RE IN THE SYSTEM, AND THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY RECOVERING VEHICLES.

UM, I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE PREPARED TODAY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY I TALK ABOUT PFLUGERVILLE, WHICH IMPLEMENTED, UH, IN, UH, Q3 IN 2022, UH, STAGGERING NUMBERS AS FAR AS SPEED TO VALUE THAT THEY RECEIVED.

UM, AND THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING TO, UH, EXPAND THE TECHNOLOGY IN, IN, IN A FEW CAPACITIES.

UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS, IF THERE HAD BEEN AN ISSUE ON THE 30 DAYS, UH, UP UNTIL THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE REEVALUATED THAT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE TO ANY OF OUR AGENCIES.

IN FACT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T REALLY HEAR OF IT AS BEING AN ISSUE.

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UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE THAT KIND OF DOUBLE-SIDED COIN OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HOARDING DATA.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S WIPED, UM, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, CUSTOMER FORCE, GO.

UM, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I'M GONNA ASK YOU, UM, DO POLICE OFFICERS CURRENTLY RUN LICENSE PLATES? UH, THEY DO IN THEIR COMPUTER EQUIPMENT IN THE VEHICLE? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

AND CAN YOU GUARANTEE ME THAT SYSTEM WILL NEVER GET HACKED NO MORE THAN I COULD THIS SYSTEM? NO, MA'AM.

I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT THEY USE THE HIGHEST PROTOCOLS, BUT CONNOR'S REFLECTING THAT THEY DO THE SAME, SO.

OKAY.

UM, SO THINGS I THINK THAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT IF THERE ARE CONCERNS REGARDING POLICY, UM, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT IS A CHANGE IN, UH, OR PUTTING LIMITATIONS ON LOCATIONS.

MAYBE WE COULD PUT LIMITATIONS ON HOW MANY CARS GET THIS OR, UH, WHERE WE PUT THOSE CARS.

UM, DATA LEAK IS A PART OF LIFE IN GENERAL.

WHETHER HE RUNS A PLATES OR THE MACHINE RUNS THE PLATES, THAT INFORMATION CAN GET LEAKED.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE CITY HOLDS THAT INFORMATION.

I THINK 30 DAYS IS SUFFICIENT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY MAY WANT IT A LITTLE BIT LONGER, .

UM, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT TOO.

UM, IT DOES TAKE TIME FOR OUR OFFICERS TO, UM, INVESTIGATE AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF 30 DAYS IS GONNA BE ENOUGH TIME, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WE NOW HAVE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT THIS WITH LIMITATIONS ON LOCATIONS, UM, WE COULD TRY IT OUT FOR A YEAR, AND THEN WE COULD HAVE OUR OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE LOOK INTO THE USEFULNESS OR ANY POSSIBLE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE TO GO WITH THIS.

UM, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COMMITTEE SUCH AS THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE FULLY, UH, WORKED ALL THE TIME.

AND SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS DIFFERENT FROM 2016 THAN ARE TODAY.

AND I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING CHANGES IN POLICIES THAT WE CAN FIND A GOOD BALANCE SOMEWHERE.

UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THE POLICE ARE ALIKE.

UM, SURVEILLANCE, NOBODY REALLY APPRECIATES THEM UNTIL THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEEDED.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, I HAVE, UH, THREE KIDS AND TWO GRANDKIDS, AND IN THE EVENT ANY OF MY KIDS ARE MISSING, UM, I WOULDN'T CARE LESS WHERE YOU STICK A CAMERA, AS LONG AS I COULD ASSIST IN FINDING ANYBODY THAT'S MISSING.

SO, UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS.

I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS.

UM, I WOULD TOTALLY ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND A MIDDLE PLACE.

BUT, UM, AND OVERALL, IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, SO WE'LL SEE YOU, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF IT COMES BACK, WHAT THE MAJORITY OF US, UH, APPRECIATE MAYOR PRO.

TIM, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS? NO, I'M GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, ARTS AND

[7.  Arts & Cultural Commission updates. Colleen Tierney, Director of Library Services]

CULTURAL COMMISSION UPDATES.

COLLEEN TIERNEY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

IT'S COLLEEN TIERNEY, DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.

FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE VANESSA WESTBROOK HERE WITH OUR UPDATE ON ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

UM, I AM HERE THIS EVENING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE WORK OF THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE NOT A YEAR OLD YET.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT OR NOT.

.

IT WASN'T UNTIL ACTUALLY APRIL THE 19TH WHEN WE WERE APPOINTED, AND THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR FIRST MEETING UNTIL, UM, JUNE THE 16TH.

AND THEN OUR FISCAL YEAR ACTUALLY STARTED THIS PAST OCTOBER.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO.

UM, IN OCTOBER, WE ACTUALLY ENDORSED THE ART SHOW.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE IN KYLE NOW FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.

AND AS A WAY OF PROMOTING THIS TYPE OF ART, WHICH IS KNOWN AS FIBER ART, WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO HELP PROMOTE AND PROVIDE PR FOR THIS EVENT THAT CAME UP IN OCTOBER.

UH, FROM WHAT WE'RE TOLD FROM THE, FROM THE ART, FROM THE, UH, QUILTING, UH, GUILD, THAT THEIR, UM, ATTENDANCE INCREASED QUITE A BIT AND THEY WERE ALSO ABLE TO RAISE QUITE A BIT OF FUNDS FOR THEIR SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM.

UM, SO THEN IN NOVEMBER, WE WERE HAPPY TO RECEIVE OUR SEVENTH MEMBER OF THE, UH, COMMISSION, BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED, WE ONLY HAD SIX.

THERE WAS STILL ONE TO BE NAMED.

THAT PERSON WHO WAS VICKI FETUS, UH, CAME TO US IN NOVEMBER.

AND THEN WE HAD OUR FULL SEVEN MAN CREW AT THAT POINT.

UH, DECEMBER, WE HAD A MEETING, UH, NOTHING REALLY, EXCEPT A LOT OF PLANNING.

JANUARY.

WE REALLY HIT THE YEAR RUNNING.

WE HAD,

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UM, THE CITY OF KYLE'S MLK CELEBRATION RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM, WHICH WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY MIGHTA ADD.

AND THANKS TO COUNCIL MEMBER HOUSER ZUNIGA, AND TO BE, AS THEY ALSO SERVE ON THE PROGRAM, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE HAD NINE HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS WHO MADE UP THAT PROGRAM FOR THE MLK EVENT.

IT WAS ALSO TELEVISED, AND I'M STILL HEARING GOOD VIBES FROM THAT PARTICULAR EVENT.

UM, WE ALSO WORKED IN JANUARY WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

I'M WONDERING IF YOU REMEMBER THAT THEY RECEIVED AN NFC, UH, FITNESS, UH, COURT GRANT, AND THEY CAME TO US AS THE COMMISSION AND ASKED US IF WE WOULD CREATE THE CRITERIA FOR SELECTING THE ARTIST IN THE CALL TO ART, WHICH THEY WOULD, UH, ULTIMATELY CREATE A MURAL THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THIS FITNESS COURT.

WE PUT TOGETHER A SCHEDULE ON, UM, WHAT THE TIMELINE WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GET THE PROJECT DONE, AND WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER THE CRITERIA FOR WHICH THE ARTIST WOULD UTILIZE.

AND THEN WE, WE ALSO SAID THAT WE WOULD GO IN AND WE WOULD READ ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS, SELECT THE COUPLE, WE'RE THINKING OF TWO, AND THEN BRING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ALL.

SO WE WERE ALL READY TO GO, BUT THEN WE WERE TOLD, HOLD ON A MINUTE, THERE WAS SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT CAME UP.

SO WE'RE WAITING TO CONTINUE WITH THAT.

SO THE DEADLINE, WELL, NOT THE DEADLINE, BUT THE TIMELINE FOR THAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN EXTENDED.

AND AGAIN, WE DID THE FIRST PART WAS CREATE THE CRITERIA.

WE ARE WAITING TO GO WITH THE NEXT PART, WHICH IS TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT AND GET THE APPLICATIONS, REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT WAS IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY.

AS YOU CAN REMEMBER, WE SET UP, OH, AND I FORGOT TO MENTION IN EACH ONE OF THESE ACTIVITIES THAT I'VE BEEN, UH, MENTIONING TO YOU, WE HAD A ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION PERSON WHO TOOK THE LEAD.

SO FOR INSTANCE, THE ARTS, UH, THE QUILT SHOW, UH, MELODY ATKINS WAS THE LEAD PERSON FOR THAT IN JANUARY, THE MLK EVENT, UH, ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION, STEPHANIE MURRAY WAS THE LEAD FOR THAT.

UH, THE PARKS, UH, EVENT THAT WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING ON, I WAS THE LEAD FOR THAT.

IN FEBRUARY, WE HAD THE ART EXHIBITION OUTSIDE IN THE WALLS OF CITY HALL THAT WAS LED BY OUR COMMISSIONER TARA MONROE.

AND AS YOU CAN REMEMBER, UH, WE HAD STUDENTS FROM SIMON MIDDLE SCHOOL WHO GAVE US THE ARTWORK TO PUT ON THE WALLS.

IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED.

THE KIDS ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE IDEA THAT WE GAVE THEM A RECEPTION.

THEY COULD BRING THEIR PARENTS AND TAKE PICTURES BY THEIR PICTURE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING MORE OF THAT IN THE FUTURE.

WE ALSO HAD THE PEACE AND PROGRESS EVENT, UH, THAT WE CO-ORGANIZED WITH THE, UM, COMMUNICATION OFFICE FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED AGAIN, THIS TIME.

ONE OF THE THINGS I CAN SAY, CUZ I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE COURTS, THE, UM, PEACE AND PROGRESS.

BEFORE WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF CITIZENS WHO APPLIED THIS TIME TO SERVE ON THE PANEL.

WE ONLY HAD SIX SLOTS OPEN.

WE HAD 12 PEOPLE TO APPLY.

WE ENDED UP CHANGING IT TO SEVEN TO GET ONE EXTRA PERSON ON IT.

AND SO THAT WAS A VERY PLEASING FOR US, THAT WE HAD SO MANY CITIZENS WHO LIVED IN THE CITY OF KYLE WHO WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PARTICULAR DIALOGUE.

IT WENT EXTREMELY WELL IN MARCH.

UM, WE HAD, WE MET REGULARLY.

NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN MARCH IS WHEN I CAME TO THE MARCH MEETING AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR BUDGET, UM, UH, MAYOR MITCHELL, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE WALL WHERE TUTORIALS WERE AND LOOK INTO IT.

AND I SAID I WOULD, AND I DID.

I DID.

I ACTUALLY ASKED, UH, SOME CITY STAFF ABOUT WHAT COULD WE DO AND THAT SORT OF THING.

WELL, IT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE, SO I DON'T HAVE TO REPORT ON THAT NOW, , WE DID LOOK INTO IT AND I CAN CAN TELL YOU AS A MATERIAL SCIENCE ENGINEER, UM, I HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT DOING ANYTHING WITH THE WALL AS FAR AS REPURPOSING, BUT WE DID GET SOME CITY STAFF WHO EVOLVED IN PLANNING ENGINEERING, ACCEPT TO KIND OF TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE TO GO NEXT WITH THAT.

SO I'M MOVING ON FROM THAT ONE.

UM, APRIL, WHICH WE'RE STILL IN, WE HAD AN EXCELLENT ARTIST RECEPTION THIS PAST SATURDAY.

IT WAS AT THE DEPOT ACROSS THE STREET.

THE IDEA BEHIND IT WAS TO PUT THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.

WE HAD OVER 40 PEOPLE TO ATTEND.

AND WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A DATABASE TO GET ARTISTS TO JOIN OUR DATABASE, TO BE ABLE TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE WORLD OF ART IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

UM, IT WAS VERY EXCITING.

LOTS

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OF NETWORKING GOING ON.

PEOPLE WHO HAD JUST MOVED HERE WHO HAVE ARTISTS AS AN AMATEUR AND ARTISTS FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY JUST DO AS A HOBBY.

THEY ALL JOINED TOGETHER TO HAVE GREAT CONVERSATIONS.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT OUR NEXT EVENT, WHICH IS COMING UP BECAUSE AS I MOVED TO MAY, WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THESE TWO THINGS AND THEY'RE BEING ADVERTISED.

ONE OF THEM IS MAY THE FIRST THROUGH 31ST.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER DISPLAY OUT IN THE HALLS OF CITY HALL.

THIS TIME THE ART EXHIBITION WILL FOCUS ON PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS.

ANNA MARTINEZ, UH, BOWLING.

SHE LIVES HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

SHE'S CURRENTLY WORKING ON OPENING A GALLERY, WHICH WON'T BE OPEN FOR A FEW MORE MONTHS, BUT HER ARTWORK WILL BE DISPLAYED TO CELEBRATE SINGLE DE MAYO HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

AND SO, DUE OUT THE MONTH OF JUNE FROM, UM, UH, MAY THE FIRST THROUGH THE 31ST, CITIZENS WILL BE ABLE TO COME AND LOOK AT THE ARTWORK.

AND IF THE, UH, CITY HALL HAPPENS TO BE OPEN FOR ANOTHER EVENT, THEN UM, FAMILIES AND WHATNOT CAN COME ON A, UM, A SATURDAY ALSO.

SO THAT'S GOING ON.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE HAVING IS ALSO SCHEDULED AND ALREADY UP AND RUNNING IS MAY 13TH.

WE'RE HAVING AN ALL ABOARD CALLING ALL ACRYLIC ARTISTS.

AND THIS EVENT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR UP TO 30, 30 ARTISTS TO COME OVER TO THE DEPOT ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THEY WILL BE PAINTING A PERSPECTIVE OF THE DEPOT INSIDE OUTSIDE.

THEY CAN CHOOSE THEIR LOCATION.

WE WILL PROVIDE VERY BASIC MATERIALS FOR THEM, AND WE HOPE THAT WE GET LOTS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT AND SEE ARTISTS IN ACTION.

THEY WILL ACTUALLY BE PAINTING USING ACRYLIC ART.

THAT'S THE ME MEDIUM THAT WE WANT.

AND WE ALSO ARE GONNA PROVIDE 16 BY 20 SIZE CANVASES.

EVERYTHING ELSE THEY CAN BRING ON THEIR OWN.

AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THE PUBLIC WILL COME OUT AND SEE PEOPLE IN ACTION ACTUALLY CREATING ART.

WE WILL THEN TAKE THOSE ART PIECES THAT ARE DONE UP TO 30 OF THEM, AND WE WILL BE PUTTING THEM IN CITY HALL ALONG THE WALLS THE MONTH OF JUNE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN COME OUT AND SEE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES OF AN HISTORIC ICON THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE CITY.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE WE'VE GOT UP AND STARTED.

MIGHT I ADD WE'RE NOT A YEAR OLD YET, UM, AND WE'VE BEEN MOVING AND GROOVING.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION, LESLIE, WAS THAT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, SIGN HAS BEEN PUT UP IN BUSINESSES ACC C EVEN IN BUTA.

AND IT IS A QR CODE WHERE IF YOU ARE AN ARTIST, YOU CAN COME GET ON A QR CODE AND THIS TAKES YOU TO OUR DATABASE.

YOU ENTER ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND THEN WE'RE STORING THAT INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO USE IT TO SEND OUT THE WORD WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL CALL FOR ARTISTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE IN PUTTING THIS UP ON THEIR BULLETIN BOARDS, ET CETERA.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, ACTUALLY, WE HAD TWO, WE HAD THIS UP FOR THE FIRST TIME ON SATURDAY AT THE EVENT.

AND THEN, UM, WE PUT PLACED IT AROUND THE CITY AND I ACTUALLY HAD TWO MORE ADDITIONS OF PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE QR CODE AND SENT THAT INFORMATION TO US.

SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL CONTINUE TO GROW OUR DATABASE.

IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN I WAS HERE IN MARCH, I GAVE YOU A BUDGET OF HOW WE WERE GONNA BASICALLY BE SPENDING THE MONEY THAT WE WERE ALLOCATED.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH IS SOME ART AROUND THE CITY.

WE DID SET SOME MONEY ASIDE TO LOOK AT PERHAPS PUTTING ART IN THREE DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND THE CITY.

WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW JUST YET.

WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE HOPE TO GET THAT UP AND MOVING BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR THAT THERE'LL BE THREE POINTS THAT WE CAN BRING TO YOU AND SAY, WE RECOMMEND THESE THREE SPOTS BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS.

AND HERE'S WHAT POTENTIALLY WE CAN PUT, WE'RE LOOKING MORE AT SCULPTURES, I THINK MORE SO THAN MURALS AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MURALS YOU NEED A BIG SPACE FOR.

AND WE'VE GOT LOTS OF SPACES COMING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE 'EM RIGHT NOW TO HAVE A CALL FOR AN ARTIST.

SO THAT IS MY REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. WESTBROOK? MAYOR, PER THANK YOU.

UH, I KNOW THIS WAS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD TO GET AN UPDATE, BUT, UH, I WANT TO THANK YOU MS. WESTBROOK AND, AND THE COMMISSIONS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'RE DOING.

YOUR, I REMEMBER MS. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE WAS ON THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE TO, TO BRING THIS, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO, UH, BRING OUT AND SHOWCASE THE ARTISTS THAT LIVE IN OUR CITY AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEING DONE.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CUZ IT'S, IT'S STARTING TO GROW THE, THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE STARTING TO GET NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COMMISSION AND SO FORTH.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

ALL

[8.  

Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager

 

  • Skate Night
  • Art in the Park
  • 4th of July Update
  • National Library Week
  • Overdrive is Changing to Libby
  • Ribbon Cutting of Seed Library
  • Teen Job Fair
  • Landscape Code Updates
  • Residential Style Guide Updates
  • Comprehensive Master Plan Update
  • After Action Report and Improvement Plan for Exercise at City Hall
  • Team Kyle Update
]

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RIGHT, NEXT UP, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.

JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

I'D LIKE TO START OFF TONIGHT WITH, UH, OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND CLAUDIA ROCHA, OUR SPECIAL EVENTS MANAGER WILL BE STEPPING IN FOR OUR DIRECTOR MARIA ESPINOZA THIS EVENING.

MAYOR COUNSEL, UM, CLAUDIA ROCHA FOR THE RECORD, SPECIAL EVENTS MANAGER.

OUR FIRST HIGHLIGHT IS OUR, UM, ASH PAVILION SKATE NIGHT, WHICH WILL BE FRIDAY, APRIL 28TH.

UH, FROM SEVEN TO NINE YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND REGISTER.

IT'S OUR USUAL MONTHLY EVENT WITH THEM.

THE NEXT ONE IS OUR ART IN THE PARK.

UM, IT WILL BE APRIL 29TH FROM 10 TO 12.

UM, THIS MONTH WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING OUR AUTISM AWARENESS WITH A WOODEN BUTTERFLY CUTOUT THAT THE, UH, FAMILIES AND CHILDREN CAN, UH, PAINT AND DECORATE.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE OUR 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO UPDATE YOU ON.

AND THAT IS GOING TO BE ALSO OUR GRAND OPENING OF LAVERDE PARK.

AND WE WILL START OUR CELEBRATION AT NOON, CONTINUE TILL FIVE, AND THEN FROM FIVE TO NINE HAVE A LIVE BAN.

AND THEN GO AHEAD AND START OUR FIREWORKS AT NINE 30.

THAT'S IT.

OH, YES MA'AM.

CAN WE HAVE A BACKUP PLAN? YEAH.

IN CASE TODAY'S NOT READY.

YES, MA'AM.

I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT JOKING.

I'M, I'M BEING SERIOUS.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE RIGHT TO BE SERIOUS.

ARE YOU WORKING ON IT? YEAH.

IF WE CAN HAVE JUST A, HEY, IT'S GONNA BE CHANGED AND, AND I'D RATHER BE SAFE THAN, SORRY.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE, WE, WE HAVE TRAIN .

THANK YOU.

YES, THANK YOU CLAUDIA.

NEXT UP IS COLLEEN TIERNEY, OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

COLLEEN TIERNEY, DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.

FOR THE RECORD.

UM, NEXT WEEK IS NATIONAL LIBRARY WEEK, AND THE THEME THIS YEAR IS, UH, PUT OUT BY THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION.

IT'S CALLED, THERE'S MORE TO THE STORY.

AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE CLOSING THE LIBRARY, ODDLY ENOUGH TO, UH, NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T THINK OUR PATRONS ARE AMAZING, BUT BECAUSE THE STAFF IS AMAZING AND I WANT, WE HAVE A DAY TO, UH, CELEBRATE THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS AND ALSO TO, UM, CONTINUING OUR, GROWING OUR GROWTH AS PROFESSIONALS.

SO I HAVE A, A SPEAKER COMING FROM, UM, DALLAS TO, UM, WORK ON SOME THINGS WITH THEM.

AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE DOING OUR A E D CPR TRAINING.

SO, AND HAVING A LUNCHEON.

THE FRIENDS ARE PROVIDING A LUNCHEON FOR, UM, UH, THE AWARD THAT WE WON EARLIER IN THE YEAR FOR EX OUTSTANDING SERVICE.

SO, UM, THINK OF ALL THE WAYS THAT YOU CAN THANK LIBRARY PEOPLE THIS COMING WEEK BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT TIME TO DO THAT.

UH, OVERDRIVE, OUR APP THAT PEOPLE USE FOR EBOOKS, AUDIOBOOKS IS CHANGING.

UM, IT'S GOING AWAY.

THEY'RE RETIRING THAT APP AND IT'S ALL MOVING TO LIBBY NOW.

SO, UM, AT THE END OF APRIL, UH, IT, IF YOU DOWNLOAD THE LIBBY APP BEFORE THE END OF APRIL, ALL OF YOUR MATERIAL WILL MIGRATE TO LIBBY AUTOMATICALLY.

UH, BUT, UH, YOU DO NEED TO DOWNLOAD THE LIBBY APP.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE AND WE HAVE SOME TUTORIALS HOW TO DO THAT AS WELL.

UM, THIS COMING SATURDAY, WE HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR OUR SEED LIBRARY ON EARTH DAY.

UM, WE HAVE A, AN EVENT PLANNED FROM 12 TO THREE RIGHT AFTER THE, UM, PARKS EVENT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DO BOTH EARTH DAY THINGS IF THEY WANNA GO EARTH DAY CRAZY.

UM, AND WE WILL HAVE IT, UM, SPEAKERS, UH, SOME EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN MORE ABOUT GARDENING, LEARN MORE ABOUT SUSTAINABLE, UM, WAYS TO, UH, LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND ALSO WE HAVE BOOK DONATIONS, UH, HAPPENING.

IF YOU HAVE BOOKS TO DONATE, PLEASE COME BY ON EARTH DAY TO DROP THEM OFF.

WE'RE HAVING A BIG, UH, BOOK SALE TO BENEFIT THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY ON MAY 6TH.

UM, AND THEN THE SAT THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY, APRIL 29TH.

WE ARE HAVING A TEEN JOB FAIR, AND SO FAR, I THINK WE HAVE EIGHT EMPLOYERS SCHEDULED TO ATTEND, UM, TO, UH, THAT ARE WILLING AND ABLE AND READY TO, UM, HAVE TEENS 14 UP, UM, APPLY FOR JOBS.

AND THERE WILL BE SOME ASSISTANCE FOR THE YOUTH TO, UM, KNOW HOW TO DO THAT PROCESS.

SO SOME LITTLE TUTORIALS, SOME LITTLE CHEAT SHEETS ON HOW TO APPLY FOR A JOB, HOW TO SPEAK TO EMPLOYERS, AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THAT, UM, NOT HAVING ANY EXPERIENCE IN THAT IS OKAY TO SHOW UP ANY TIME DURING THOSE, UM, THREE HOURS OR FOUR HOURS TO, UM, TO PARTICIPATE.

AND THAT'S IT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COLLEEN.

NEXT UP IS WILL ATKINSON, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR.

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THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.

UH, FIRST, UH, RELATED TO OUR LANDSCAPE CODE UPDATES THAT WE RECEIVED, DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, UH, JUST AS A HEADS UP, WE ARE WORKING TO INCORPORATE RAINWATER, RAINWATER HARVESTING, INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING TO BE ZERO SCAPED, ALLOWING, UH, THE OPTIONS FOR SYNTHETIC PLANTS AND UPDATING OUR SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AROUND SENSITIVE, SENSITIVE FACILITIES.

UH, WE'VE TAKEN SOME CUES FROM A LOT OF RECENT DISCUSSIONS, SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

UH, FROM A RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE UPDATE PERSPECTIVE, UH, WE ARE EXPLORING THE OPTIONS OF REDUCING OUR SETBACKS, UH, FOR RESIDENCES AND ALLOWING FOR SLIGHTLY HIGHER IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, TO ENCOURAGE, UH, A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF MASONRY WITH, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

UH, WE DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT, BUT IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO ENCOURAGE, WE, WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT.

AND FROM A COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN UPDATE, UH, VERITY IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR TRIP NUMBER THREE ON MONDAY, MAY THE 22ND, AND TUESDAY MAY THE 23RD.

AND, UM, THERE'S GOING TO, THIS VISIT IS GONNA INCLUDE, UH, MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPMENT STAFF, TWO PUBLIC OUTREACH EVENTS, AND A PLANNED JOINT COUNCIL AT P AND Z WORKSHOP FOR THE EVENING OF TUESDAY, MAY 23RD.

UM, THAT, UM, THAT MEETING WITH THE JOINT WORKSHOP IS GONNA EXPLORE A COUPLE OF, UH, GROWTH SCENARIOS.

AND, UM, WE ARE, I'M GONNA BE WORKING WITH, UH, THE CITY SECRETARY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, Y'ALL ARE NOTIFIED APPROPRIATELY AND EVERYTHING WHEN WE HAVE FURTHER DETAILS.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

OKAY.

YOU SOUND A LITTLE SICK.

ARE YOU OKAY? UH, I WAS SICK LAST WEEK AND THEN, SORRY, COVERING MY VOICE FROM THAT, SO, OKAY.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

NO, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, AFTER ACTION REPORT.

EXCUSE ME, MAYOR PRO TIM, I'M SORRY, WE'VE LOST A QUORUM.

SO WE HAVE TO HALT UNTIL WE GET OUR QUORUM BACK THERE.

THEY NEED TO BE OKAY.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE TWO ON.

OKAY.

NO, WE STOPPED IT WHAT? THEY STOPPED IT.

THE MEETING.

WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION WITHOUT A QUORUM ON THE BOARD, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE THE MEETING WITHOUT A QUORUM ON THE BOARD.

PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE JOKING AND THEY DIDN'T STOP THE MEETING.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK.

OH MY GOSH.

THIS IS THE SITUATION.

THE, THE RULE IS YOU CAN'T TAKE ACTION WITHOUT A QUORUM ON THE BOARD.

I JUST, YOU MAY CONTINUE.

THE MEETING ARRIVED, SO I WAS, WASN'T SURE WHAT THE STATUS OF IT, SO, BUT I'M JUST FOR THE, FOR COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT IS THE TRUTH.

SO ARE WE DONE WITH, UH, NOT YET.

NO.

OKAY.

WE ACTUALLY STOPPED.

NEXT UP IS MANAGER'S REPORT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MANAGER WILL PA VASH.

WHO'S TRAVIS SEAT WILL PTE VASH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE RECORD ON, UH, TUESDAY THE 11TH, WE HAD OUR ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILL HERE AT CITY HALL.

I CAN SUMMARIZE IT AS EXEMPLARY, UH, IN THE WORDS OF THE, OF RENEE WHO PLAYED THE SHOOTER.

NOT ONE STAFF MEMBER WAS SEAT FROM, UH, THE POINT THAT THEY WALKED IN, FIRED THE FIRST SHOT.

EVERYONE VANISHED.

UH, OUR STAFF IS VERY QUICK ON THEIR FEET.

THEY BARRICADE VERY WELL AND I CAN'T REALLY RECOMMEND ANY IMPROVEMENTS THERE.

UH, FACILITIES MIGHT, WE DID BREAK TWO DOORS, BUT IT WENT OVERALL EXTREMELY WELL.

UM, EACH OF YOU HAS A COPY OF THE AFTER ACTION REPORT.

WE DID.

UH, IT BREAKS DOWN AS SCENARIO.

I DID DO, UH, A HOT WASH IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FACT WITH THE EVALUATORS, WITH STAFF, UH, WITH PD.

AND THEN I SENT OUT AN ANONYMOUS ONLINE EVALUATION THAT STAFF COULD FILL OUT.

THE GRAPHS ARE GENERATED FROM THESE EVALUATIONS AND FROM THE WRITTEN EVALUATIONS THAT MOST OF SENIOR MANAGEMENT SUBMITTED.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? YES, SIR.

UM, I'M SURE IT'LL BE DOCUMENTED, BUT WAS THERE, UM, WAS THERE ANY FOLLOW UP, LIKE A DEBRIEF TO WHAT IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE? YES.

THEY ARE DOCUMENTED AT THE TAIL END OF THE PLAN AND I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER WITH THEM, UH, WITH YOU OVER THEM, WITH YOU.

I DON'T WANT TO DETAIL IN A PUBLIC SETTING ANY SPECIFIC SHORTCOMINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

? YES MA'AM.

WAS THERE ANY KIND OF REPERCUSSIONS FOR THE LAST PERSON TO HIDE ? LIKE DO WE HAVE TO LIKE CLEAN THE WINDOWS OR WASH THE TOILETS? WE, WE DID HAVE TO EXTEND THE EXERCISE FOR THE LAST PEOPLE TO COME OUT OF THE BUILDING.

.

OKAY.

THEY WERE VERY WELL HIDDEN.

, EVEN PD HAD TROUBLE EX EXTRICATING THEM.

.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES MA'AM.

MAYOR COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD.

JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER WITH MY TEAM KYLE UPDATE.

I HAVE GREAT NEWS.

WE HAVE THREE, UH, NEW, UH, TEAM CALL MEMBERS AND ONE IS MAKING HER FIRST APPEARANCE AFTER BEING ANNOUNCED AT THE LAST MEETING.

CHARLIE LUTENS IS OUR NEW CODE

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ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.

IF I HAD TO HAVE HER, THIS IS WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE NEXT TO HER IS MICHAEL JANKEY, WHO'S OUR NEW ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM.

WE ALSO HAVE ON BOARD, UH, DENISE LEWIS, WHO'S NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US TONIGHT.

SHE'S OUR NEW LEAD TELECOMMUNICATOR.

SHE COMES TO US MOST RECENTLY FROM TEXAS STATES POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND BEFORE THAT SHE SPENT MANY YEARS WITH HAYES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

LOTS OF EXPERIENCE THERE.

AND, UH, DANIEL BENAVIDES WHO WAS HERE AND I THINK HE HAD TO LEAVE, HE'S OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGIES AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM.

AND SO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY NOW BECOMES NEXT DIVISION THAT IS FULLY STAFFED IN THE CITY.

SO WE CONTINUE TO MAKE GREAT PROGRESS THERE.

COUPLE INTERNAL PROMOTIONS.

DEREK TURLEY HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO DIVISION MANAGER OF TREATMENT OPERATIONS.

MANY OF US KNOW DEREK IS FIGHTING THE FIGHT WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO BREAK GAS AND WATER LINES WHILE INSTALLING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO DEREK IS A VERY VALUABLE MEMBER OF OUR TEAM AND I'M GLAD TO SEE HIM, UH, IN HIS NEW POSITION.

AND LAUREN LYONS IS ALSO SOMEBODY YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

WELL, MAYBE I SHOULD LEARN TO WORK THIS, MAYBE IT'S WORK.

BUT LAUREN LYONS IS A, IS A MEMBER OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

SHE'S BEEN PROMOTED TO BUSINESS RETENTION SPECIALISTS BEFORE SHE WAS WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

SHE WAS WITH OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THAT WITH PUBLIC WORKS.

VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, ALL THE OPERATIONS WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE.

VERY FAMILIAR WITH CITY OF KYLE.

VERY VALUABLE MEMBER OF OUR TEAM.

I'M GLAD TO HAVE HER WORKING ON HER WAY UP.

MAYOR COUNSEL, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU, JERRY.

OKAY, NEXT

[9.  CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

UP, C I P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONS, CONSENT AGENDA, PRESENTATION.

MR. BARBARA.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL LEE.

I'M BARBARA, CITY ENGINEER.

SPEAKING OF LAVEE PARK, UH, WE'RE AT 88.5% COMPLETE.

UH, THEY STILL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF ONGOING ITEMS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THE COMPLETED SECTION.

SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE COMPLETED THE IRRIGATION LINES SOLD AND MULCHED THE VOLLEYBALL COURT, THE EXTERIOR TILE TO PAVILION, UH, TREES, LOG BENCHES, AND BOULDERS SEATING IN THE PLAYGROUND.

THEY'VE INSTALLED SOME, UH, STEEL WALL THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE FOOTER, UH, THEY'RE STILL, THEY'VE COMPLETED THE DRILLING THE HOLES UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE SO THEY CAN PULL THAT L E D LIGHTING.

THEY CLAIM THE, UH, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE MAY OF 2023.

PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

WE'RE ABOUT 86% COMPLETE.

UH, THE VIBE TRAIL CONSTRUCTION'S ONGOING.

UH, THEY'RE INSTALLING BRICK FOR THE PERIMETER WALL, THE TILE DOMAIN LOBBY ON LEVEL ONE.

THEY'RE INSTALLING THE STOREFRONT.

UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE MILLWORK AT LEVEL ONE AND TWO AND, UH, THE NORTH SIDEWALK AT COLORS CROSSING THEIR COMPLETION DATE IS JUNE OF 2023.

WASTEWATER TREATMENT EXPANSION PROJECT, YOU PROBABLY WON'T SEE THE SLIDE ANYMORE SINCE WE, WE FEEL THAT WE'RE PRETTY WELL COMPLETE WITH THE PROJECT, BUT WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE ITEM TO WORK ON.

WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT TO BE SHIPPED, UH, UH, ON APRIL 25TH.

SO THIS PROJECT IS PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED AND THE PLANT CONTINUES TO OPERATE VERY WELL.

PROBABLY SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER PRINT IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE ONE MORE CHANGE ORDER.

UH, PUBLIC WORKS IS ASKED FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AIR CONDITIONING UNIT AT THE LIST STATION.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND SEEING IF WE CAN INCLUDE THAT INTO THE PROJECT.

SO, UH, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH, UH, WRAPPING UP THE PUNISHED LIST ON THIS PROJECT DOWNTOWN.

RELOCATION OF OUR HEADLINES, I WISH I COULD SAY BETTER THINGS ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BUT WE'RE JUST HAVING A HARD TIME MEETING WITH SPECTRUM TO RESPOND TO US TO ASK US OR TO LET US KNOW WHEN THEY WILL GET OUT THERE AND START DOING THE SPLICING.

SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO CALL THEM AND, AND, UH, EMAIL THEM AND TRY TO GET A BETTER DATE FROM THEM SO THEY CAN COMPLETE THE WORK THERE.

OKAY.

RULE IS IT HAS TO STAY ON THE SLIDE UNTIL IT'S DONE.

YES, SIR.

OLD POST ROAD, THEY'VE COMPLETED THE DRAINAGE.

UH, THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ASPHALT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO WRAP THAT UP THIS WEEK.

AND ONCE THAT'S DONE, THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE COMPLETED THEIR PORTION OF THE PROJECT AT THAT POINT.

UH, IT'LL BE TURNED OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE FINAL LAYER OF HOT MIX INDIAN PAINTBRUSH LIFT STATION.

THIS PROJECT'S STILL MOVING FAIRLY WELL.

THEY'RE AT 52% COMPLETE.

UH, THEY'VE COMPLETED THE WET WELL TEST.

UM, THEY'RE SANDBLASTING THE WET WELL AND THE MANHOLE SLIP CAN DO THAT COATING THAT'S REQUIRED.

UH, EMERGENCY GENERATOR HAS BEEN RECEIVED.

USUALLY THAT'S A LONG LEAD ITEM, BUT, UH, WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE.

SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UH, WET WELLS AND THE NEW MANHOLES ARE GONNA BE, UH, COATED AND THE CONTROLLED PANEL PAD PREPARATION ARE BEING PLANNED FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT'S A PARTICULAR INTEREST TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

UH, WE ARE, UH, HOPING TO GET A CONTRACT APPROVED WITH PAY DAWSON TO BEGIN THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING FOR THE NEW ELEVATED, UH, STORAGE TANK.

A MILLION GALLON, UH,

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FACILITY, ALONG WITH A 500 GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK.

AND THE, UH, PUMP THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

UH, THESE WILL BE LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 1 58.

THESE WILL BE SERVING, UH, UH, STORAGE AREAS FOR THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY.

MAYOR PRO, YOU ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION ON BUNTON CREEK, UH, OR ACTUALLY DCI LANE.

AND UH, I'M PROBABLY GIVING YOU MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU WANTED TO HEAR, BUT I THOUGHT I'D COVER EVERY PROJECT THAT I KNOW THAT'S GOING ON ON DACY LANE.

UH, LET ME START OFF WITH THE BUNTON CREEK INTERSECTION STUDY.

UH, THINK BACK IN FEBRUARY, COBB FEELING AND ASSOCIATES WAS ASKED TO LOOK AT, UH, WHETHER WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FEASIBILITY OF INSTALLING A ROUNDABOUT OR A, UH, STANDARD TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

I SHOULD BE GETTING THAT, UH, DRAFT MEMO ABOUT MID-MAY NEXT MONTH.

UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE STREETS THAT WE SELECTED FOR MICRO SERVICING IS, UH, UH, DACY FROM BUNTON CREEPED DOWNING WAY.

UH, IF YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE DIDN'T TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO BB, THE MAIN REASON WE DIDN'T TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO BB IS BECAUSE THE COUNTY STILL HAS A PROJECT ONGOING THERE.

THEY'RE DOING SOME RESURFACING, THEY'RE DOING SOME RESUS STRIPING.

SO WE DECIDED JUST TO GO UP TO DOWNING WAY, CUZ WE DID NEED TO DO SOME WORK ON D LANE.

SO THE MICROSURFACING WILL BE DONE SOMETIME AROUND JUNE OR JULY.

WE DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE YET FROM THE, UH, CONTRACTOR.

UH, COUNCIL ALSO APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH CP N Y ON NUMBER THREE TO LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION OF DOWNING WAY AND FOUNTAIN GROVE AND SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE THERE.

SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT WHETHER WE COULD INSTALL A ROUNDABOUT OR WHETHER WE SHOULD LOOK AT TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.

I'M SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING A DRAFT REPORT, UH, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH SO I CAN START REVIEWING THAT AND GETTING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE UNCOVERED WITH THAT PROJECT.

THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A PORTION OF THE VIBE THAT WOULD BE FROM A MARKETPLACE.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

UH, CAL PARKWAY.

I'M SORRY, TO, UH, BB ROAD.

SO THAT'S PART OF THEIR PROJECT NUMBER FOUR.

UH, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, WE'LL BE BRINGING A PROPOSAL BACK FROM, UH, CP N Y TO, UM, LOOK AT PROVIDING A PRELIMINARY INJURY REPORT.

THERE'S A WASTEWATER LINE THAT'S, UH, WE NEED TO UPSIZE OR UPGRADE.

IT'S, UH, JUST THE NORTH OF BEBE.

STARTS AT NORTH OF BEBE AND GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BUNTON CREEK BRANCH THERE.

LUTON BRANCH CREEK.

UH, WE HAVE A PROBABLY NEED TO PUT IN ABOUT AN 18 INCH WASTEWATER LINE THERE.

THAT'S, UH, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE'RE INSTALLING THAT NEW LIST STATION AT THE INDIAN PAINT BRUSH IS GONNA HAVE MORE, UH, PUMPING CAPACITY.

UH, NUMBER FIVE, UH, I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO ZACH RYAN.

HE'S WITH L J A.

HE WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE, UH, PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY'S WORKING ON BETWEEN, UH, UH, BB ROAD AND HILLSIDE TERRACE.

THANKS, LEON.

ZACH, RYAN WITH LJ.

UM, SO THAT PROJECT'S BEEN ON A CONSTRUCTION FOR A WHILE.

NE KNOW THIS IS THE COUNTY, UH, FUNDED PROJECT.

UH, THE CITY'S PORTION WAS DOING, EXPANDING THE SIDEWALK AND INSTALLING THE ILLUMINATION, UH, FROM BB TO, UH, CHOPPA.

AND, UH, SO THE SIDEWALK IS COMPLETE THERE.

THE, THE ILLUMINATION POLES HAVE BEEN ORDERED.

THEY HAVE NOT NOT BEEN INSTALLED.

IT'LL TAKE A COUPLE MONTHS FOR THOSE TO COME IN.

UM, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS NOW FORECASTED FOR FEBRUARY OF, UH, 24.

UM, THERE'S, THAT'S ABOUT FIVE OR SIX MONTHS BEHIND SCHEDULE, UM, FROM THE ORIGINAL, UH, DATE THAT'S ALMOST 100% ATTRIBUTED TO U UTILITY RELOCATION SLOWDOWNS.

UH, AS AS I HAD, UH, HE MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, TELECOMS AND, AND SOME OTHER, UH, OTHER UTILITIES HAVE, HAVE BEEN THE STRUGGLE TO GET THEM TO MOVE.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

UM, SO IF, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM ON THAT PROJECT.

YES.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, PERFECT.

CUZ I, UM, I'M, I STILL GET QUESTIONS FROM THE SCHOOL AND THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA ABOUT HOW HOW LONG IT'S GONNA BE.

UH, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE LIGHTS ARE COMING.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID MENTION TO THE PRINCIPAL THERE BECAUSE OF THE KIDS THAT ARE WALKING HOME, THERE'S A LOT MORE YEAH.

STUDENTS THAT ARE WALKING HOME IN THE, UH, IN THE EVENING AFTER SCHOOL, UM, ACTIVITIES.

SO THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR NOW.

AT LEAST I HAVE A DATE CUZ I KNOW WE WERE TRYING TO SHOOT FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AROUND AUGUST.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHEN THEY WERE ANTICIPATING AND THEY WERE GETTING EXCITED CUZ THEY, AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE DCI IS, WE, YOU STARTED ON THE SECOND LANE WHERE THEY STARTED DOING THE CONSTRUCTION THERE WHERE WE CAN HA HAVE THE TURNING LANES NOW.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SO, UH, I, I'VE SEEN, I'VE NOTICED THAT, AND I THINK TODAY WHEN I DROVE BY THERE, I DID SEE THAT THEY WERE STARTING TO PLANT WHERE THE ILLUMINATION LIGHTS MIGHT GO.

THERE'S FLAGS POSTED AROUND, I THINK THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE CONDUIT YEAH.

AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND FORTH FOR THE OKAY.

FOR THE ACTUAL.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO, TO GET THAT UPDATE.

I, I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

CAUSE LET'S MOVE ON.

YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S, AND NO, IT WAS KIND OF SLOW.

I KNOW DURING THE HOLIDAYS IT WAS KIND OF STOPPED AND, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE EMAILING ME AND SAYING, HEY, WHAT'S THE DEAL? YOU KNOW? YEAH.

ARE THEY GONNA FINISH IT? AND SO FORTH.

BUT, UH, IT'S JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IT'S, IT'S, UH, PRODUCT AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

AND, UH, THANK YOU.

UM, LEON, IF YOU WOULDN'T

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MIND JUST SENDING ME, UH, SECTION ONE AND SECTION TWO, UM, IN AN EMAIL SO THAT WAY I COULD PASS IT ON TO THE PEOPLE IN KENSINGTON AND ALONG WITH, UH, STEEPLECHASE ABOUT, OR IN THE BUNTON CREEK DOWNING WAY.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT WAY THEY CAN BE AWARE THAT SOMETHING'S GONNA BE IN, IN, IN THE PIPELINE.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, LEON.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.

.

SORRY.

HI, LEON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, SO FOR, UM, ITEM 11 AT 30%, THE 72 800 IS GOING TO BE PAYING FOR THE ENGINEERING AND 30% OF THE DESIGN FOR THIS WATER TANK.

CORRECT.

WHEN WE, WE SAY 30%, UH, PLANS, THEY USUALLY GIVE US A REPORT AND THEN THEY ALSO GIVE US SOME, SOME ROUGH PLANS OF WHAT THE PROJECT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

WE ALREADY HAVE A SITE SELECTED FOR THE, FOR THE TANK.

SO, UH, WE SH WE, IT'S GONNA BE BASICALLY INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GONNA GET FROM THEM, BUT IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S ROUGHLY 30%.

IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE GETTING.

DOES THAT HELP EXPLAIN THAT? UH, YES.

AND SO IT SAYS IN HERE IT'S GONNA BE A PRE-STRESSED CONCRETE WATER GROUND STORAGE TANK.

UM, I WANNA KNOW WHAT TYPE OF DESIGN, I MEAN, LIKE WHAT KIND OF, UM, WATER TANKS ARE WE GETTING? IS IT LIKE THE, THE CONCRETE ONE? IS IT GONNA BE THE ROUND LONG-LEGGED ONE? THE, THE GROUND STORAGE WILL BE THE CIRCULAR, UH, THAT'S USED REAL ON WILL HAVE THAT ON THE GROUND.

THAT'LL BE THE CIRCULAR TANK THAT'S GONNA BE THERE.

AND THE ELEVATED STORAGE AS, UH, USUALLY PUBLIC WORKS HAS A SPECIAL KIND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE.

SO WHAT'S LISTED ON NUMBER 11 IS THE TYPE OF TANK THAT WE'LL BE INSTALLING THERE.

UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UH, BECAUSE I, I WAS READING ABOUT THE STORAGE TANKS AND, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE THAT COMES WITH THIS TANK.

SO I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF TANK ARE WITH THE SIGN IN, IF WE HAVE ANY IDEA, IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE THE COMPOSTED ONE, THE MULTI LEGGED FLUID COLUMN? I DON'T, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE GROUND STORAGE OR THE ELEVATED ELEVATED, I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS HAS A SPECIFIC DESIGN THEY LIKE TO SEE.

IT'S GONNA BE ELEVATED AND I KNOW THAT, UH, WE HAVEN'T MADE THAT DECISION YET IN WHICH TANK WE'D WANT TO GET AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

WE'LL BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION AS 40, 30% THAT COME FORWARD BEFORE THEY START ASSIGNING.

PARDON? WILL THAT COME FORWARD BEFORE THEY START DESIGNING THE TYPE OF TANK? YES.

WE'LL BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION AT THE 30%.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND, AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PUBLIC WORKS HAS A SPECIFIC, UH, TYPE OF TANK THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, SO WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY FOLLOW THERE DIRECTIONS ON THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

LEON, WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT NEEDING MORE OF THESE WATER STORAGE TANKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AFTER THIS ONE AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW OUT? OR DO WE HAVE ENOUGH OF 'EM, UM, TO HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF WATER PRESSURE HERE IN OUR CITY? UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF PLACING ANOTHER ONE THERE AT, UH, LAYMAN ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS HAS ASKED FOR US TO LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT.

I THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR ABOUT A MILLION GALLONS.

I MAY BE, UH, GOING BACK ON MEMORY MM-HMM.

, BUT YES, WE ARE LOOKING FOR OTHER PLACES FOR GROUNDWATER STORAGE OR ELEVATED STORAGE AS WE, WE NEED IT.

IS THAT TO HELP OUT THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE CITY? PARDON? TO HELP OUT THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE CITY? UH, THE, THE NORTHEAST PART, WE, OF COURSE WE HAVE THAT 300, UH, 300,000 GALLONS THAT'S GOING IN AT THE CROSSWINDS.

WE HAVE THAT ONE THERE.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, PROVIDING IT ON 1626.

WE HAVE THREE AND A HALF MILLION GROUND STORAGE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER LARGE STORAGE FACILITY THAT WE'RE PUTTING AT 1626, WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED LATER AS, AS, AS WE NEED IT WITH ANOTHER THREE AND A HALF MILLION GALLON STORAGE.

SO THAT'S ABOUT 7 MILLION GALLONS OF STORAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT AT 1626.

SO THE, THE ELEVATION ON THIS TANK WILL BE ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET UP UPWARD.

DON'T HAVE THAT MEMORIZED IT.

THERE'S THREE, WE HAVE THREE PRESSURE PLANES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MM-HMM.

.

AND EACH ONE HAS TO BEAT A CERTAIN ELEVATION FOR THAT PRESSURE PLANE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THESE ON, UH, COUNTY ROAD 51 58, THEY'RE IN PRESSURE PLANE ONE, THEY'LL BE MEETING THAT ELEVATION THAT WE NEED THERE TO, TO BALANCE OUR, UH, WATER SYSTEMS THERE.

MM-HMM.

AND THE ONE ON LAYMAN, I BELIEVE THAT'S PRESSURE PLANE TWO, BUT I'M GUESSING ON THAT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ELEVATION.

HIGHER ELEVATION AND, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME THAT'S UP THERE.

UH, A WOODEN WATER TANK.

BAD IDEA, BAD IDEA.

I'VE,

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I'VE SEEN THAT.

WOODEN, WOODEN TANKS.

UH, A LOT OF MAINTENANCE FOR THOSE.

OKAY.

LOTS OF MAINTENANCE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

UH,

[VI.  Consent Agenda]

ANY MOTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 11 SINCE I HEARD ABOUT THIS WATER TANK HERE IN 10 AS WELL.

THE JUST 11 ELEVEN'S CONCERNING THE WATER TANK.

BUT YOU WANNA GO AND APPROVE THE WHOLE CONS AGENDA AS WELL.

SURE.

TAKE TWO.

YEAH.

WE, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ACADIAN BEFORE, RIGHT? SO YEP.

10 AND 11 SECOND.

ALL MOTION BY, UH, COUNCIL ZUNIGA, SECONDED BY COUNCIL FLORES KELLY, WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 AND 11.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MAY PRO, JUST TO CLARIFY ON THE SECTION 12, I BELIEVE FOR THE PAYMENT THAT, UM, LET ME PULL IT UP, I'M SORRY.

UNDER THE SECTION 16 ON NUMBER TWO ON THE NON-EMERGENCY CALLS WHERE THE PERSON REQUIRES TRANSPORTATION TO A NON EMERGENCY FACILITY COLLECTION FOR THE SERVICE PAYMENT MAY AND I THINK NOW SAYS AT THE OPTION OF ACADIA MUST BE MADE BEFORE THE AMBULANCE TRIP BEGINS.

SO I THINK THE LAST, UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT CHARGE THE RESIDENT FOR THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY OR IT WOULD AFTER YOU GO THROUGH INSURANCE FIRST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK HE CLARIFIED WHO, WHAT IS THIS? IS THIS A BACKUP? UH, YES.

WAS TALKING ABOUT THE AMBULANCE.

ACADIAN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACADIAN, REMEMBER WE, UH, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT IF, IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT WAS, LET'S SAY ELDERLY, WHATEVER THAT HAD SAID, STATED IN HERE THAT ACADIAN WOULD, UM, WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE A PAYMENT UP FRONT OVER THE TRIP BEGINS.

BUT I THINK HE DID CLARIFY THAT THAT WOULD NOT NEED TO HAPPEN.

THEY WOULD WORK THROUGH IT INTERNALLY.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE, AT THE OPTION WHERE ACADIAN VERBIAGE IS NOW IN THERE, THAT THEY WOULD WORK IT UP.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, UH, I'M, I'M GOOD MAYOR.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSE.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, 7 2 0.

UH, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, ACTUALLY BEFORE WE DO THESE ITEMS, UH, THERE'S A BEEN A REQUEST TO GO AHEAD AND GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION VERY BRIEFLY TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER CONTRACT, UH, AND THEN COME BACK OUT, UH, POTENTIALLY TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT, UH, AND THEN PROCEED WITH OUR MEETING.

SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, UH, WE WILL GO VERY QUICKLY.

SO I DON'T THINK IT WILL LAST VERY LONG.

UH, UH, PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CO CONVENE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE TIME OF TIME DEEMED NECESSARY, UH, CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENE, UH, PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION IN CHAPTER 5 51, UH, PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED, UH, LITIGATION OR SEEK THE ADVICE OF A CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO 5 51 0.071 CITY MANAGER EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT.

ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE OFFER LETTER AND CITY MANAGER EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT WITH BRIAN LANGLEY AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT AFTER MR. LANGLEY PASSES THE EMPLOYMENT PRE-SCREENING.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE CASE OR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, BECK.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

UH, I THINK WE GOT OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, SO VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS GEN

[12.  Public Hearing Concerning the Approval of the Amended and Restated Project and Finance Plan and the Amended Interlocal Agreement for the Tax Increment Zone Number Two, City of Kyle and Approval of the Extension of the Zone. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]

ITEM NUMBER 12, PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED AND RESTATED PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN IN THE AMENDED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE TAX INCREMENT ZONE.

NUMBER TWO, CITY OF COLIN, APPROVAL OF THE EXTENSION OF THE ZONE.

STEPHANIE LIBE, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHANIE LIBE WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT BOND COUNCIL TO THE CITY.

UM, ACTION ITEMS 12 AND 13 ARE RELATED TO JURORS TWO WITHIN CITY OF KYLE.

UM, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, YOU'LL CONSIDER A RESOLUTION THAT WILL UPDATE THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN FOR JURORS TWO.

ALSO EXTEND THE TERM FOR JURORS TWO.

UH, UNDER THE EXTENDED TERM, THE TUR, THE TOURIST WOULD BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, 2057.

UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE AMENDMENTS TO THE JURORS, THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

SO WE'RE HERE, UH, FOR THIS FIRST, UM, AGENDA ITEM TO CONDUCT THAT PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PUBLIC HEARING'S NOW CLOSED.

NEXT

[13.  Consideration and Approval of an Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas Approving the Amended and Restated Project and Finance Plan and Amended Interlocal Agreement for the Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number Two, City of Kyle and Approving the Extension of the Zone; and Other Matters Related Thereto. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]

EXHIBIT AGENDA ITEM 13, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS APPROVING AND AMENDED AND, UH, THE AMENDED AND RESTATED PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN AND AMENDED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR

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THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.

NUMBER TWO, CITY OF COLIN APPROVING THE EXTENSION OF THE ZONE AND OTHER MATTERS MS. LEVY.

SURE.

AGAIN, STEPHANIE LIBBY NORTON ROSE FUL WRIGHT BOND COUNCIL TO CITY OF KYLE.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, RELATED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, THIS RESOLUTION WOULD APPROVE AN UPDATED PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN FOR JUROR TWO.

UM, EXTEND THE TERM OF JURORS TWO UNTIL 27, 20 57.

AND THEN ALL THREE ALSO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF AN AMENDED I L A BETWEEN THE CITY AND HAYES COUNTY, UM, TO REFLECT THAT EXTENSION OF THE, UH, TERM OF THE ZONE.

UH, IN THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN, WE HAVE WORKED WITH P THREE THAT THE CITY ENGAGED SAYS TOURS ADMINISTRATOR TO PROVIDE AN UPDATED PLAN.

UM, OF IMPORTANT NOTE IS THAT THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN RECOGNIZES A PROPOSED ISSUANCE OF 2023 TOURIST REVENUE BONDS TO FUND THE RETAIL ROADS PROJECT.

UH, IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THOSE BONDS WILL BE ISSUED SOMETIME NEXT MONTH, UM, AND THE AMOUNT OF $8 MILLION.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ABOUT THE RESOLUTION, UH, OR THE PROJECT FINANCE PLAN.

AND JOHN SNYDER COULD NOT BE WITH US TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE RON HASLIP WITH P THREE AVAILABLE, UH, VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS.

MOTION.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO.

TIM, IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALLS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.

THANKS.

ALL

[14.  Consider approval of a Transportation Improvement Design, Permitting and Construction Agreement with TIRZ No. 2 and Plum Creek Development Partners~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]

RIGHT.

NEXT UP.

AGENDA ITEM 14.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT DESIGN, PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT WITH JURORS NUMBER TWO I.

YES.

AND PLUM CREEK DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.

MS. SONS MAYOR COUNCIL PAGE, SCIENCE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD, THE, UH, COUNCIL IS SITTING AS CHARTERS BOARD WAS BRIEFED ON THIS AGREEMENT ON THURSDAY.

THIS AGREEMENT IMPLEMENTS THE, UH, PROJECT THE RETAIL ROADS AGREEMENT BY ENGAGING THE MASTER DEVELOPER TO CAUSE AND RUN THE CONTRACTING, UH, SIDE OF THE, THE PROJECT BY ENGAGING, UM, RUNNING THE PROCESS TO SELECT A DESIGN ENGINEER AND TO, UH, CAUSE THE BIDDING TO BE CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH APPLICABLE LAWS AND TO CAUSE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO BE BROUGHT BACK FORWARD TO THE CITY FOR APPROVAL.

UH, THE COUNCIL APPROVED THIS FORM OF AGREEMENT IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, BUT THE, UH, PROCESS, THE PROJECT HAS PROGRESSED TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE A DESIGN ENGINEER, UH, ON BOARD.

AND SO THE CONTRACT HAS BEEN REVISED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WGI HAS BEEN, UM, ENGAGED TO DESIGN THE PROJECT.

AND SO WE'RE SEEKING COUNCIL APPROVAL SINCE THE CONTRACT WAS CHANGED.

THIS CONTRACT WILL REPLACE THE ONE PRIOR APPROVED BY COUNSEL.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SIGNS? MAY PART TWO.

WHAT WAS THE, UM, THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WAS, I SEE HERE THE CONSULTANT MANAGER HAS ENGAGED IN WGI IS THE AMOUNT, 635,000 FOR THE AGREEMENT.

THE, UH, CONSULTANT MANAGER ENGAGED WGI IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $635,120 TO DESIGN THEIR RETAIL ROADS AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, AND UPON THE CITY RECEIVING THE TURS BOND PROCEEDS, THAT CONTRACT WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THE CITY AND THEN THE CITY WILL WILL PAY FOR THE, THE DESIGN SERVICES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN RENDERED.

UH, THE CITY WILL NOT BE OBLIGATED TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT UNTIL THE TURS BONDS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ISSUED AND SOLD, AND MONEY IS IN HAND SO THAT THE MONEY WILL BE COMING FROM THAT TURS BOND ISSUANCE AS HAS ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED.

OKAY.

WITH THAT MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.

SECOND MOTION BY MAY.

APPROACH YOU SECOND.

UH, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL US IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT

[15.  Consider and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas Approving the Form and Authorizing the Distribution of a Preliminary Limited Offering Memorandum for the City of Kyle, Texas Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 (Porter Country Public Improvement District Improvement Area #1 Project); and Resolving Other Matters Incident and Related Thereto. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]

[16.  Consider and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas Determining the Costs of Certain Authorized Improvements to be Financed within Improvement Area #1 of the Porter Country Public Improvement District; Approving a Preliminary Service and Assessment Plan Updated For Improvement Area #1, Including a Proposed Improvement Area #1 Assessment Roll; Directing the Filing of the Proposed Improvement Area #1 Assessment Roll with the City Secretary to Make Available for Public Inspection; Noticing a Public Hearing for May 16, 2023 to Consider an Ordinance Levying Assessments on Property Located within Improvement Area #1 of the Porter Country Public Improvement District; Directing City Staff to Publish and Mail Notice of Said Public Hearing; and Resolving Other Matters Incident and Related Thereto. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]

UP, AGENDA ITEM 15.

CONSIDERING A POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, AMENDING THE FORM AND AUTHORIZING THE DISTRIBUTION OF A PRELIMINARY LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS.

SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2023, PORTER COUNTRY PI IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE PROJECT, AND RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS, MS. LIEY.

SO, ACTION ITEMS, UH, SORRY.

STEPHANIE LIBE NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT BOND COUNCIL FOR THE CITY.

UM, ACTION ITEMS 15 AND 16 ARE BOTH RELATED TO THE PORTER COUNTRY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PROJECT THAT'S UNDERWAY IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

THIS ACTION ITEM WOULD APPROVE, UH, THE PRELIMINARY LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM, WHICH IS THE OFFERING DOCUMENT THAT THE BOND UNDERWRITER USES TO MARKET

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AND SELL THOSE BONDS TO INVESTORS.

AND SO THIS IS JUST A MEMORIALIZATION BY COUNCIL THAT, THAT, UH, OFFERING DOCUMENT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY CITY STAFF, CITY CONSULTANTS, AND THAT REVIEW PROCESS, OUR FIRM TAKES, UH, PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR REVIEWING SECTIONS APPLICABLE TO THE CITY.

WE WORK WITH SAMCO SO THAT SAMCO CAN PROVIDE ANY, UM, UPDATED FINANCIAL INFORMATION RELATED TO THE CITY.

AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, UH, DEVELOPER DEVELOPER'S, CONSULTANT, DEVELOPER'S COUNSEL ALSO REVIEWS THAT DOCUMENT TO PROVIDE ALL THE PERTINENT DISCLOSURE RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND, AND, UM, AND SPECIFICITY.

SO, UH, THIS RESOLUTION IS JUST A MEMORIALIZATION THAT WE'VE ALL COME TOGETHER, UM, TO REVIEW, COMPOSE, AND DRAFT THAT DOCUMENT SO THAT IT CAN BE SENT OUT INTO THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY PRIOR TO THE BOND SALE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE ABOUT THE RESOLUTION OR THAT BACKUP.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LIBE? GOOD QUESTION.

CUSTOMER ZK.

UH, SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE PIS VERSUS PUDS.

OKAY.

VERSUS MUDS .

SO THE PIS HAVE A LIEN, RIGHT? THERE'S A LIEN.

UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT THAT'S ATE UPON PROPERTY WITHIN THE DISTRICT, AND THAT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IS USED TO REPAY THE BONDS.

SO WHAT KIND OF VALUE TO LIEN RATIO DOES THIS PIT HAVE? UH, UM, I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND.

I'M GONNA CALL ON PATRICK IF HE KNOWS.

DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND? IT'S CLOSE TO TWO TO ONE OVER.

I'LL GET THAT TO YOU.

SO YOU TRY TO SHOOT FOR THREE TO ONE, RIGHT? AS A STANDARD.

THIS ONE IS TWO TO ONE.

SO GEN, SO GENERALLY, UM, A STANDARD, AND IN THE CITY'S PIT POLICY, IT IS A STATED THREE TO ONE POLICY.

WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS BEING NEGOTIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPER, AT THAT TIME, THE CITY AGREED TO USE A LESSER LEAN TO VALUE RATIO.

MM-HMM.

, UM, RELATED TO THIS IMPROVEMENT, UH, OR THIS DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE TYPE OF FINANCING STRUCTURE, UH, THAT WAS ULTIMATELY AGREED UPON.

OKAY.

SO WHEN THE PEOPLE LIVING OR BUYING THESE HOMES HAVE TO PAY THEIR TAXES, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE, UM, TAX RATE, WHAT ADDITIONAL ASSESSED, UH, TAX DO THEY PAY BELONGING SINCE THEY BELONG IN THE PIT? SURE.

SO, SO, SO IF OUR TAX RATE WAS 0.54%, I THINK, UM, IN THE CITY, UM, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE CAPITALIZED RATE, BUT WHAT ELSE? WHAT, HOW, HOW, WHAT, WHAT OTHER PERCENTAGE ARE THEY PAYING? YEAH, SO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, UM, IN THE BACKUP FOR THE NEXT, UH, COUNCIL ACTION ITEM RELATED TO PORTER COUNTRY PIT.

UH, THERE'S A PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, AND WITHIN THAT PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, THERE'S A PROPOSED ASSESSMENT ROLE THAT'LL SHOW BOTH THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT PER LOT.

UM, AND THEN THAT ASSESSMENT AMOUNT BROKE, BROKEN DOWN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME VARIATION BETWEEN ASSESSMENTS LEVIED WITHIN THE DISTRICT BECAUSE THE ASSESSMENTS LEVIED BASED ON BENEFIT PROVIDED, AND THAT'S CALCULATED USING THE ESTIMATED BUILDOUT VALUE BASED ON LOT SIZES.

AND SO DIFFERENT LOT SIZES WILL PAY, UM, AN INCREMENTALLY LARGER ASSESSMENT AS THE LOT SIZE INCREASES.

OKAY.

BUT I CAN PULL, WHEN WE DISCUSS THE NEXT ACTION ITEM, IF YOU WANT THOSE SPECIFIC FIGURES, I CAN PULL THAT UP AND PROVIDE IT.

WHEN WE DISCUSS THAT.

ARE HOME BUYERS BEING INFORMED AND BEING INFORMED ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE BUYING A HOUSE IN A PI HOME? BUYERS HAVE TO BE INFORMED ABOUT BOTH THE EXISTENCE OF THE BID AND THE ASSESSMENT LEVY.

AND SO EACH STEP OF THE WAY, THE CREATION RESOLUTION, WHICH ACTUALLY CREATES DEFINED AREA OF THE PIT, IS FILED IN COUNTY LAND RECORDS.

IF COUNCIL MOVES TO ADOPT THE ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE AND LEVY'S AS ASSESSMENTS, THAT ASSESSMENT ORDINANCE IS ALSO FILED IN LAND RECORDS.

AND SO THAT SHOWS UP ON TITLE REPORTS RELATED TO THE PROPERTY.

WHEN THE HOME BUILDERS GO TO SIGN, UH, SALES CONTRACTS, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS, BOTH AT THE TIME THAT THE INITIAL SALES CONTRACT IS ENTERED INTO, AND THEN ALSO AGAIN AT CLOSING.

AND IF THEY FAIL TO PROVIDE EITHER OF THOSE TWO NOTICES, THE BUYER HAS THE RIGHT TO, UH, GET OUT OF THAT SALES CONTRACT WITHOUT LOSING ANY OF THEIR DEPOSITED MONEY.

UM, MOST OF THE, UM, BONDS, I GUESS, ARE TO PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE PIT, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU CAN ALSO, UM, HAVE MORE POLICE SERVICES IN THE PIT.

DO IS THIS PIT OR ANY OTHER BID SET UP TO HAVE MORE

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POLICING WITHIN THEIR OWN PI? MORE? THESE, THESE, THESE, THESE PIS ARE NOT CURRENTLY DESIGNED TO PROVIDE ANY TYPE OF SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES, LIKE EXTRA POLICE PROTECTION WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS.

THESE BIDS ARE WHAT WE IN THE INDUSTRY CALL CAPITAL BIDS.

UM, AND THEY'RE REALLY BIDS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO COME IN AND FINANCE SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NECESSARY FOR DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

JUST WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? MOTIONS BEAR, LIKE TO GO AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 AND 16 N 16 ARE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TIED TOGETHER.

ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE ITEMS 15 AND 16.

IS THERE SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, MOTION MADE BY MAYOR PRO TIM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW AS THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR, UH, YOU'RE BREAKING UP.

COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.

IT'S OKAY.

JUST FORGET IT.

EASY AS QUESTION ALL NIGHT, .

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO.

THANK YOU.

YOU ALL.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM.

I SAID AYE.

.

I'M SORRY.

I DON'T WANNA BE COUNTED ABSENT.

IT'S JUST, I HAVE A HORRIBLE DELAY HERE.

YEAH, I, I HAVE TO COUNT IT FIVE TO ZERO BECAUSE YOUR SCREEN WASN'T WORKING AT THE TIME.

IT'S THE RULES.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT UNDERSTOOD.

OH MY GOD.

PAIGE, DO YOU DISAGREE? ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP.

I AM.

I JUST CAN TAKE A SCREENSHOT WITH MY PHONE AND I CAN SHOW YOU MY SCREEN IS UP.

LOOK, I'M SUPER FRUSTRATED WITH THE INTERNET.

ALL

[17.  

Discussion regarding the feasibility of utilizing the rainwater harvesting system liftstation design from the Public Safety Center to another City project/location. ~ Derek Bird, AGCM, City of Kyle Project Manager

]

RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 17, DISCUSSION REGARDING THE FEASIBILITY OF UTILIZING THE RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEM, UH, LIFT STATION DESIGN FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER TO ANOTHER CITY PROJECT.

MR. BIRD, UH, WE GOT YOUR REPORT IN THE EMAIL, SO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? THE ANSWER IS NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT, BUT PERFECT.

YES, SIR.

UH, MAYOR COUNCIL DEREK BIRD WITH AGC M, UH, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

AND JUST AS YOU KNOW, LAST MEETING WE HAD DISCUSSION ON AD SERVICES FOR PEAL AND RAINWATER SYSTEM, WHICH COUNCIL'S DIRECTIVE TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THAT AND SEE IF WE COULD UTILIZE THAT SYSTEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

UM, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH LEON AND WITH GARZA, THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU FOR RE RESTATING THE EMAIL.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM? YEAH.

UH, SO I GUESS THIS IS GONNA GO BACK TO THE EGAL INVOICE MM-HMM.

, BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

DID, SHOULD WE REALLY BE, SHOULD, ARE WE, SHOULD WE PAY THIS? LIKE IS IT FISCAL RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO, TO, TO APPROVE AN INVOICE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD HAVE EVER BEEN, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE ENGINEERING SHOULD HAVE EVER GONE FORWARD WITH THIS RAINWATER HARVEST.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A TIMELINE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN ALL THIS WAS DONE.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THE BUILDING WAS CREATED, UH, TO HAVE THE WATER GO UNDERGROUND ORIGINALLY.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANY GUTTERS ON THERE, SO I IMAGINED THAT LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD'VE GOT THE, THE, THE RAINWATER FROM THE GROUND TO THE HARVEST IF IT WAS GOING UNDERNEATH.

SO I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TO BE TO P ALLEN.

MAYBE WE, I, I DON'T KNOW, ARE WE GONNA LIKE TAKE A VOTE ON THE INVOICE AS WELL? SO THEY'RE NO LONGER REQUESTING, UM, CHANGE OR ADDITION TO THEIR CONTRACT.

SO THAT'S NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION OR ACTION AT THIS POINT.

UM, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM VOICING THOSE ITEMS, RESEARCHED THROUGH THEIR CONTRACT, AND SO WE'RE NOT PROCEEDING WITH ADDITIONAL, UM, DOLLARS ADDED TO THEIR CONTRACT AT THIS TIME.

THE SITUATION, AND I'M GUESSING YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE MY FOLLOW UP EMAIL, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AGENCY WAS NOT A PART OF THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHEN WE CAME ON THE CISTERN AND THOSE UNDERGROUND, UM, ROOF DRAINS WERE IN PLACE AT THAT TIME.

THROUGH ALL THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD, I GATHERED THAT THERE WAS DIRECTION GIVEN TO HAVE VERY CLEAN BUILDING LINES WITH NO GUTTERS, NO EXTERIOR PIPING.

SO THAT'S WHY ALL THE RAINWATER WENT UNDERGROUND.

TAKING UNDERGROUND WITHOUT KNOWING THE HEIGHT OF THE CISTERN, YOU'RE UNABLE TO DESIGN THE WET WELL AND THE PUMP SYSTEM TO FILL THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT TIMELINE GOES.

ONCE THEY HAD THE CISTERN DESIGN IN PLACE, WHICH WAS MARCH, APRIL, THEY WERE ABLE TO THEN START FIGURING OUT WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE TO FILL IT.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY ISSUED THAT, UM, ADDITIONAL DESIGN SERVICE TO DESIGN THAT WET WILL.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE LIKE, MY FIRST QUESTION IS GONNA BE WHEN DID ACG COME ON BOARD? AFTER THE DESIGN SERVICE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE WAS IN PLACE.

OKAY, BUT THERE'S NO DATE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW

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SPECIFICALLY? UM, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT ONE.

OKAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU, YOU MADE MENTION OF, UH, UH, WHEN, WHEN DID YOU SAY THAT THEY, THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT PACKAGE? YES.

SO THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IS THE STEP AFTER A SCHEMATIC DESIGN.

SO IT SCHEMATIC DESIGN, YOU GET, HEY, THIS IS KIND OF OUR IDEA DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

YOU GET A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU GET FLOOR BUTTONS, YOU GET ROOMS, YOU GET FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATIONS, YOU GET SOME EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS SCHEDULES, UM, FOR MEPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

CUZ AT THAT TIME THAT, UM, OUR COMPANY WAS BROUGHT ON TO HELP MANAGE IT.

BUT WHAT LED TO THAT INITIAL DESIGN AND THOSE TWO PIECES NOT CONNECTING, I'M NOT AWARE.

OKAY.

AND, AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT PAL DOESN'T WANT PAYMENT FOR THIS.

WE'RE NOT GONNA EXTEND THEIR CONTRACTOR ADD ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THEIR CONTRACT FOR THIS.

OKAY.

SO DOES PAL WANT PAYMENT FOR THIS? SO I THINK MAYBE YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING, WE VOTED AT THE LAST MEETING TO PAY THEM THE 23,500.

NO SIR.

WE DID NOT.

NO SIR.

WHAT VOTE DID WE TAKE AT THE LAST MEETING? UM, YOU ADDED THE 30,000 FOR THE VIBE TRAIL AND THE THOUSAND FOR THE DAS SYSTEM AND WE, WE POSTPONED THIS ONE TAG POST, IT BROUGHT BACK 23 5.

YES, SIR.

AND THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING PAYMENT.

NONE.

OKAY, WELL THAT'S, THAT'S THEM DOING THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE WELL, YEAH, ULTIMATELY I THINK IT, IT FALLS ON THEM.

I'M SORRY.

SO MY, YEAH, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, CUZ I'VE ASKED IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS AND I HAVEN'T REALLY GOT A STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWERED IF, DO THEY WANT THEIR MONEY? CUZ YOU'RE SAYING NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA EXTEND THE CONTRACT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS THEM WANTING TO HAVE THEIR MONEY.

SO OBVIOUSLY THEY WANT THEIR MONEY.

UM, THE MAIN, THE MAIN PLAYER IN THIS THAT DID THE WORK IS, UH, GARZA THE CIVIL ENGINEER.

UM, SO THEY, THEY DID DO THE WORK IN MY MIND.

AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'VE GATHERED FROM A LOT OF THIS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PERSONAL I SAW IN THE LANDSCAPE, UM, NEW CHANGES THAT WE'RE ADDING, YOU KNOW, THE RAINWATER HARVESTING, THERE'S A LOT OF DIRECTION TRYING TO GO THIS WAY.

UM, IN MY MIND THIS WAS KIND OF A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO SPEND, YOU SPENT THIS MONEY TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE, WE SAW WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD TAKE AND WHAT THAT ROI WOULD BE TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHY CHASE $23,000 WITH ANOTHER 200 AND $200,000? LIKE IT'S NOT FEASIBLY SMART.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY THE DIRECTION STAFF TOOK AT THE TIME.

THAT WAS, UM, NIX AND KIND OF THE DIRECTION, THE DIRECTION WE'RE AT THAT ABSOLUTELY GARZA WOULD LOVE TO BE PAID.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ALL HOW IT FALLS WITHIN THE CONTRACT.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I DO FEEL A LITTLE BIT GUILTY ABOUT NOT PAYING.

I KNOW THAT THIS INVOICE WAS FROM AUGUST, UH, OF LAST YEAR AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TIMELINE WAS.

THE AD SERVICE WAS EXECUTED IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.

SO, YEAH.

SO.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT

[18.  Presentation, update, and possible action regarding spay/neuter/vaccinate program for City of Kyle including vouchers, requirements, participation, and costs. ~ Jeff Barnett, Chief of Police]

UP AGENDA, ITEM 18, PRESENTATION UPDATE AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SPAY NEUTER VACCINATE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, INCLUDING VOUCHERS, REQUIREMENTS, PARTICIPATION AND COSTS.

CHIEF BARNETT, BRIANNA TAG.

IT'S OKAY.

CHIEF, I WAS MAKING SURE WEREN'T GONNA GET ON .

HEY, JUST MAKING SURE.

SORRY.

JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD, UM, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE BRIANNA AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HER HARD WORK THAT SHE'S DONE IN, IN MULTI OR MULTIPLE AREAS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, RECENTLY SHE WAS PROMOTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES SUPERVISOR.

SHE OVERSEES BOTH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL DIVISIONS WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THOSE ARE BOTH GROWING IN BOTH VERY BUSY DIVISIONS IN THE DEPARTMENT.

UH, ONE OF THE TASKS THAT SHE'S HAD IS THE, UH, TNR PROGRAM.

ANOTHER, UH, RECENT REQUEST IS TO EXPLORE THE VOUCHER PROGRAM.

SHE'S HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT HER FINDINGS AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON A POTENTIAL VOUCHER PROGRAM, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE ASKING FOR SPECIFIC ACTION TONIGHT.

WE WOULD NEED TO BRING BACK SOME, SOME POTENTIAL ACTION IN THE FUTURE.

IF YOU DECIDE ON A OUT OR GIVE US SOME DIRECTION, SHE'S GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE.

BRIANNA, WE ARE IN COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD.

BRIANNA GETTY'S, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES SUPERVISOR.

UM, SO, UM, SOME THINGS SWITCHED UP TODAY.

I HAD TALKED TO EMAN PET INITIALLY, UM, REGARDING THIS.

UM, AND THEN PALS CAME AND TALKED TO EVERYBODY, UM, ABOUT THE POTENTIAL THAT THEY CAN, UH, HELP US WITH VOUCHERS TOO, UM, PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

UM, AND THEY WILL BASICALLY ALL THE SAME PRICING WILL BE THE SAME.

UM, SO, UM, WHAT WE HAD COME UP WITH WAS TO, UM, START WITH 250 VOUCHERS.

UM, I HAVE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS.

UM, WE CAN PLAY WITH THE NUMBERS.

UM, BUT TO DO, UM, 250 VOUCHERS, IT IS $22,250.

UM, AND THAT WOULD JUST INCLUDE THE SPAY, JUST THE SPAY AND NEUTER, UM, COSTS, UM, EITHER THROUGH EMANS PET OR THROUGH PALS AS SURGERY, UM, PROGRAMS. UM, AND I KIND

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OF MIMICKED, UH, BUTS PROGRAM.

I MET WITH THEM, UM, AND GOT ALL THEIR INFORMATION, UM, FOR, UM, HOW THEY WERE DOING THEIR PROGRAM UP TO UP TO DATE.

UH, QUESTIONS CUSTOMER FOUR SCALE.

YES, I HAVE, I JUST WANNA, UM, MAKE SURE AND CONFIRM THAT WE ARE USING BOTH EMANCIPATE.

I MEAN, I PREFER JUST TO USE ONE AND I'M OKAY WITH EMANCIPATE.

UM, I'VE HAD RESIDENTS REACH OUT JUST, UM, WITH SOME KIND OF DIFFICULTIES AND I GUESS THERE ARE FINANCIAL, UM, LIMITS TO PALS.

AND SO, UM, I, THE, THE BACKUP MATERIALS SAID EMANCIPATE.

I'VE HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH EMANCIPATE.

UM, AGAIN, I THINK IF, IF IT HAS TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, OR I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I ALSO LIKE, UH, EMANCIPATE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN I'M SURE THEY'RE ALL BUSY, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST BOTH OPTION OPTIONS ARE GONNA BE PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS.

YEAH, THE THE THING WITH EMANS PET IS THEY WILL KIND OF TOWARDS THE END OF JUNE BE BACK DOING THEIR MOBILE CLINICS.

THAT'S THEIR PLAN.

UM, WE HAD FOUND THAT OUT WHEN I STARTED RESEARCHING THIS PROJECT, UM, WAS THAT THEY, UH, THAT THEY WERE GONNA BRING BACK THE MOBILE CLINICS.

AND FOR SOME PEOPLE GOING TO AUSTIN IS CONVENIENT.

UM, THAT IS A GOOD OPTION FOR THEM.

UM, BECAUSE POWELL'S CLINIC IS IN SAN MARCOS, UM, AND IT IS ON THE SQUARE, SO IT IS, UM, NOT NECESSARILY ON THE WAY TO WORK FOR SOME PEOPLE.

SO, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO STILL USE VETS IN, IN AUSTIN.

SO.

WELL, I LIKE, I LOVE THE IDEA OF IT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

UM, AND IT'S A, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE TN VR.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, I THINK WE BRIEFLY DISCUSSED THIS AT THE, AT THE MEETING WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT T N VR AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.

AND SO WITH THAT, I LIKE, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING IT BACK? I THINK SO IT'D HAVE TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE OR A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

A BUDGET AMENDMENT AS WELL.

OH, A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

MM-HMM.

OR JUST BRING, BRING BACK NECESSARY AGENDA ITEMS TO, OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE, YEAH, A MOTION, UM, TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK CORRESPONDING, UM, POLICIES OR PROCEDURES FOR AGENDA IDA.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.

DO YOU WANT TO ESTABLISH THE AMOUNT, THE 22,000 OH YES.

IN THE AMOUNT OF $22,250.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION, UH, BY COUNCIL FLORES KALE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MAYOR PARSLEY.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MAYOR PROTO.

OKAY, THIS WILL BE MY LAST TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS.

LET'S DO, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT.

UH, THANK YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT FOR, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

I KNOW YOU, UH, WAS GIVEN THIS TASK AND I KNOW IT WAS GRUELING AT TIMES, AND I APPRECIATE THE RESEARCH THAT YOU DID ON THIS AND SPENT THE TIME.

UH, WE FINALLY GOT SOME NUMBERS.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAD WANTED FROM THE BEGINNING.

I KNOW WE WERE HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT THIS IS BEST FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THEIR ANIMALS AND SO FORTH, BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING SOLID GROUND AS FAR AS A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

AND, AND NOW WE DO.

SO THAT REALLY, REALLY HELPS.

SO, UM, I'M IN, I'M GOING FORWARD, I'M IN SUPPORT WITH THIS AND HOPEFULLY CITY STAFF CAN, CAN COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE AND THEN THIS CAN, WE CAN GET THIS, UH, PROJECT STARTED.

SO, BUT THEN AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? AYE.

AYE, AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

SIX ONE.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP.

AGENDA ITEM

[19.  

Authorize execution of a professional services agreement with CATALYST COMMERCIAL, INC., Dallas, Texas, for total consulting fees in the amount not to exceed $25,000.00 which includes reimbursable expenses at 115 percent of actual costs to provide services related to recruitment of targeted retail, hospitality, entertainment and destination recreation in the City of Kyle for the period April 1, 2023 through September 29, 2023. ~ Victoria Vargas, Director of Economic Development

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19, AUTHORIZED EXECUTION OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH CATALYST COMMERCIAL, UH, DALLAS, TEXAS FOR TOTAL CONSULTING FEES IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $25,000, WHICH INCLUDES REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES AT 115% OF ACTUAL COSTS TO PROVIDE SERVICES RELATED TO RECRUITMENT OF TARGETED RETAIL, HOSPITALITY, ENTERTAINMENT, AND DESTINATION.

RECA RETAIL IN THE CITY OF KYLE FOR THE PERIOD APRIL 1ST, 2023 TO SE, UH, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 29TH, 2023.

MS. VARGAS, MAYOR AND COUNSEL, VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A REQUEST TO TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL OUR RETAIL CONSULTANT CAN ACTUALLY BE PRESENT.

HE IS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, AND SO AT A LATER DATE, HE CAN, HE CAN COME BACK AND I'LL BRING THE ITEM FORWARD.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE AGENDA ITEM 19 SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FLORES KEL.

SECOND.

SECOND.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP.

[20.  Approve an updated Interlocal Agreement (ILA) between the Plum Creek Watershed Partnership and the City of Kyle regarding the continued participation and implementation of the Plum Creek Watershed Protection Plan. ~ Kathy Roecker, Stormwater Management Plan Administrator ]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, APPROVE AN UPDATED, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PLUM CREEK WATERSHED PARTNERSHIP AND THE CITY OF KYLE REGARDING THE CONTINUED PARTICIPATION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLUM CREEK WATERSHED PROTECTION

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PLAN.

MS. ROKER, MAYOR COUNSEL, KATHY RAKER STORMWATER PROGRAM FORWARD.

THE RECORD IN FRONT OF YOU IS AN UPDATED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, KYLE AND THE PLUM CREEK WATERSHED PARTNERSHIP.

THIS, UM, THE VERY FIRST IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED IN 2011.

THERE WAS A RENEWAL THAT WAS DONE IN 2014.

THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF PARTNERS THAT HAVE CHANGED.

POLONIA WATER IS NO LONGER POLONIA WATER AQUA MERGED WITH THEM.

AND SO IT WAS CLEANING UP SOME HOUSEKEEPING THINGS, AND SO WE FIGURED IT WAS TIME TO UPDATE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FLORES CA THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL I AHEAD, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.

I DID SEE, I DID SEE THAT THERE'S A WORKSHOP ON FAT'S, OIL GREASE GOING INTO WASTEWATER.

WHO, WHO HOLDS THAT WORKSHOP? DOES EVERYBODY TOGETHER OR ALL THE PARTNERS? IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE PLUM CREEK WATERSHED COORDINATOR.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, AND HE IS OFFICED OUT OF LOCKHART, BUT I CAN ASK HIM WHEN THAT IS COMING UP AND LET YOU KNOW.

AND HOW DOES OUR TOTAL ADD UP? THE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, IT'S GIVEN A POPULATION NUMBER AND AN AREA SQUARE MILES, AND THEN IT'S SAYING 50% POPULATION, 50% LAND.

UM, BUT I KNOW, KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW I GOT THOSE NUMBERS THOUGH.

4,900 AND 188.

AGAIN, GBR A IS THE, IS THE MANAGING PARTNER.

UH, THEY'RE THE, THE MAIN MANAGER OF THIS, OF THE PARTNERSHIP.

AND THOSE NUMBERS, IF YOU LOOK, I THINK THEY WERE FROM 2000 AND 9,009.

YEAH, THAT'S A SMALL, SMALL POPULATION, HUH? YEAH.

UH, AND AGAIN, IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2011.

AND SO NOW THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, CENSUS IN 2020, THEY ARE GOING TO UPDATE THOSE NUMBERS.

BUT BECAUSE THIS NEEDED TO GET UPDATED, IT WAS GBR A'S OPINION OF LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND GET THIS SIGNED, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S 12 DIFFERENT PARTNERS MM-HMM.

, UH, THAT THEY NEED TO GET SIGNATURES ON.

AND SO THOSE NUMBERS WILL BE UPDATED.

WE DO GET AN INVOICE EVERY YEAR.

UH, IT DOES GO TO THE CITY MANAGER, UM, SO I'M SURE OUR COST WILL GO UP.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE TOTAL IS STATED AT $48,000 TOTAL.

SO THEY KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CALCULATION THEY USE TO, I MEAN, I GUESS IT IS BASED ON POPULATION SQUARE, SQUARE MILES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

ARE THE REPORTS QUARTERLY OR ANNUALLY? I'VE READ THE ANNUAL WATERSHED PLUM CREEK REPORT, BUT THEY DO, IS THERE MORE TO IT THAN JUST ONE? THEY DO UPDATES EVERY TWO YEARS AND, UH, I CAN SEND YOU A LINK TO THEIR WEBSITE.

OKAY.

IT WAS JUST VERY INTERESTING TO SEE THE TEST, THE STATISTICS AND THE FAX OF THE CREEK.

YES, IT IS VERY INTERESTING.

IF YOU LIKE WATER QUALITY .

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MAY I LIKE TO GO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20.

I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

OKAY.

UH, ALL RIGHT, ALL US IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIE.

AYE.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

THANK Y'ALL.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP.

AGENDA ITEM

[21.  

(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 4.68 acres of land from 'RS' (Retail Services) to 'R-1-T' (Townhomes) for property locate at 1290 Bebee Road in Hays County, Texas. (Dacy Lane LLC - Z-23-0113) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning

 

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the request.

 

  • Public Hearing
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21.

FIRST READING IN ORDINANCE MINTING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 4.68 ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES TO R ONE T TOWNHOMES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1290 BB ROAD IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.

UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. ATKINSON, THANK YOU WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.

UH, BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE A PETITION TO REZONE AS STATED.

UH, 4.68 ACRES, UM, FROM RETAIL SERVICES TO R ONE T, WHICH IS TOWNHOMES.

UH, TOWNHOMES ARE, UM, ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY UNITS WHERE, UM, THEY'RE, THEY SHARE COMMON WALLS, A MINIMUM OF FOUR PER BUILDING SIDE BY SIDE.

AND THIS SITE IS, UM, KNOWN AS DCY VILLAGE LA FLOOR LOT FOUR.

IT IS A PLATTED LOT.

AND LET ME PULL THE MAP UP RIGHT HERE.

THE AREA OUTLINED IN YELLOW IS THE SITE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT CURRENTLY ON THE HARD CORNER THERE.

ON THE WEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION, THERE IS A RESTAURANT UNDER CONSTRUCTION JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT THERE IS A GAS STATION AND THEN THERE'S AN UNDEVELOPED RETAIL PAD SITE TO THE SOUTH.

FROM A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PERSPECTIVE, UH, THIS IS IN THE NEWTOWN COMMUNITY DISTRICT.

IT IS A RECOMMENDED, UH, ZONING DISTRICT IN THIS, ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS SHOWN RIGHT HERE.

R ONE T, THE, UH, NEW COUNTRY, OR EXCUSE ME, THE NEWTOWN COMMUNITY, UH, DISTRICT IS AN AREA THAT HAS A MIX OF USES AND WHAT HAVE YOU IN ZONING DISTRICTS.

IT'S, UH, I DON'T WANNA SAY IT'S A HODGEPODGE, BUT IT IS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND USES.

AND THIS, UH, LANDOWNER, UM, IN THEIR GROUP, THEY, UH, THIS SITE WAS REZONED A LITTLE OVER A DECADE AGO TO RETAIL SERVICES.

AND THEY'VE BEEN HAVING, AS THEY'VE TOLD US ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, THEY'VE BEEN

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HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE OVER THE LAST DECADE TRYING TO, UH, GET, HAVE PEOPLE ATTRACTED TO THE SITE FROM A RETAIL PERSPECTIVE.

SO THEY'VE GOT THE STUFF CLOSER TO THE HARD CORNERS TAKEN CARE OF.

SO, UH, WITH THE DOWN ZONE, THEY ARE HOPING TO ACCOUNT FOR A, A MISSING MIDDLE IF YOU, IF YOU WILL, FROM A RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE, KIND OF THE SWEET SPOT BETWEEN, UM, MULTI-FAMILY AND A SINGLE FAMILY, IF YOU WILL.

KIND OF A, WHERE PEOPLE CAN MOVE IN BETWEEN, FROM A WASTE, FROM ADJACENCY, FROM THE ROAD NETWORK PERSPECTIVE, UM, IT IS RIGHT ADJACENT TO BB ROAD.

THIS ROAD IS EXPECTED TO BE, UH, CONS REBUILT ON THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM THAT WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS, AND THEY ARE EXPECTED TO PAY THE ADJACENT LANE MILE FEE IN LIEU OF MAKING IMPROVEMENTS, CONSIDERING THIS IS A SMALLER PROJECT.

AND THEN FROM A WATER AND WASTE WATER PERSPECTIVE, UH, THIS IS THE MONARCH WATER AND, UH, WASTE WATER IS GOING TO BE THE CITY OF OHIO AND THERE'S ADEQUATE SERVICE.

UH, ON, UH, APRIL 11TH.

LAST WEEK, THE PLANNING AND ZONE COMMISSION VOTED SIX TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

UH, COMMISSIONER MATA WAS ABSENT, BUT THEIR DISCUSSION WAS CENTERING FAVORABLY ON PROMOTION OF THE MISSING MIDDLE STEP UP HOUSING AND THAT BB ROAD WOULD BE IMPROVED.

AND STAFF HAS THIS SUPPORT THIS AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. ATKINSON.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISH CHOOSES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? UM, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, COUNCILMAN, MY NAME IS VINCE HUBINGER WITH VINCE AND GERARD AND ASSOCIATES.

I'VE GOT A REAL QUICK POWERPOINT I WAS GONNA GO THROUGH, BUT IF YOU'RE THE APPLICANT, YOU WANT TO DO A MAKE A SHORT PRESENTATION WITH STAFF SUPPORT, YOU CAN DO THAT AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAY.

I CAN'T THAT WAY.

YEAH, I'D RATHER DO THAT.

DON'T LET ME FORGET MR. FENCE COLLINS IS HERE AT THE BROKER HE WANTS TO SPEAK TO AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NOW IN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ALLOWING FOR THE APPLICANTS TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION BRIEF? THREE MINUTES.

THREE MINUTES? WHAT? THAT'S ALL I NEED.

UM, I'M JUST GONNA GO, DID Y'ALL RECEIVE A COPY OF THIS ALSO? I'M WORKING ON PHONE.

OKAY.

WHAT IT IS, BASICALLY, I, I KNOW YOU'VE SENT, UM, YOU SAW THIS IN 2020.

THIS COUNCIL DENIED IT BECAUSE OF TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.

UM, WE WAITED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE NOVEMBER BOND, UM, BB ROAD ROAD.

IS, IS, IS IS ALLOTTED, WHAT, SIX POINT 67 SOMETHING MILLION ALONG THIS SECTION.

OUR FAMOUS S-CURVE IS GONNA GO AWAY OFF BB THE SITE IS JUST LOCATED EAST I 35, BUT INSIDE DACY VILLAGE TOWARDS US, IT IS SITUATED BETWEEN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND A RETAIL AND IS CURRENTLY RETAIL ZONING, BUT THERE'S CONVENIENCE STORE ON THE CORNER.

I DIDN'T DO THE ORIGINAL PLANNING FOR THESE FOLKS.

UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH RETAIL, A LITTLE TOO DEEP WITH THAT ACREAGE.

SO EVERY TIME I LOOKED AT IT, MAYOR COUNCIL, I, I JUST DIDN'T SEE THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT.

WE DID A REAL QUICK DRIVE BY SURVEY ON THE VACANT COMMERCIAL AND, UH, COMPARED THAT TO THE ZONING MAP AND THE JUST PROPOSED COMMERCIAL AREAS LIKE ON I 35 AND THAT SUCH.

AND THERE'S JUST A LOT OF VACANT COMMERCIAL OUT THERE.

THIS THING HASN'T MOVED IN A WHILE.

WHAT WE DID TRY TO DO IS WE TRIED TO MAKE THIS THING WORK WITH R ONE A, UH, RESIDENTIAL ATTACH RESIDENTIAL PATIO HOMES, UM, AND JUST KEPT STRUGGLING WITH THE LOT SIZES AND LOT CONFIGURATION.

COULDN'T GET THAT TO WORK.

AND I STARTED LOOKING AT THE TOWN HOME ASPECT.

THERE'S A GREAT EXAMPLE UP IN THE MEADOWS OF BUTTA OFF ROBERT S LIGHT BOULEVARD ON THIS SIDE OF THE FREEWAY THAT HAS SOME FOURPLEXES IN THERE.

AND I'M NOT, NOT SPEAKING FOR A DEVELOPER, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD, UH, LOCATION FOR TOWN HOMES.

THE REASON I SAY THAT YOU CAN WALK TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, YOU CAN WALK TO THE REGIONAL PARK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS A GREAT PLACE FOR STARTER HOMES AND FAMILIES TO START HOME OWNERSHIP IN KYLE, TEXAS.

UM, ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT COMMERCIAL AREA OF AN EXHIBIT THERE.

OH, HE'S GOT IT UP.

GO TO, I THINK I'M DONE.

WILL.

THAT WAS THE BOND PACKAGE.

GO TO THE NEXT ONE.

THAT WAS THE REASONS FOR, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, WHERE THE, UH, K FIVE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I THINK IT'S SCIENCE HALL AND THEN THE REGIONAL PARK IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET STAR LOCATED THERE.

AND THAT BIG CIRCLE OF RED IS MORE COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA.

NEXT, PLEASE.

THAT'S WHAT WE SEE ON THE GROUND.

THIS VACANT AND COMPETING WITH THAT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKING TOO MUCH TIME.

WE RATHER TRY TO GET A NICE HOME BUILDER TO DEVELOP THIS.

GO TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.

THERE'S THE ASSUMPTIONS.

UM, EXISTING RETAIL SITES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A LOT AVAILABLE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT, UH, WILLOW SAID AT THE MISSING

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MILL.

SOMETHING IN BETWEEN A TOWN HOME, IN AN APARTMENT, IN A SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED OR ATTACHED.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAME UP WITH.

GREAT ACCESS TO I 35 AS WELL.

UH, AND AGAIN, SPENCE IS HERE TO JUST SPEAK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL ASPECTS AND GIVE HIS OPINION TOO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL.

MY NAME'S SPENCER COLLINS.

I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER FROM MCALLISTER ASSOCIATES REAL ESTATE.

AND, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS TRACK OF LAND, UH, FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS, MAYBE FIVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

AND AS VINCE APLEY STATED, IT'S UH, BEEN A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE TO GET INTERESTED RETAIL DEVELOPERS TO COME ONTO THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WHEN I ADVERTISE IT INTO THE MARKETPLACE.

I DO GET SOME INQUIRIES FROM SOME OTHER BROKERS AND DEVELOPERS AND, AND THE REASON THEY'RE INQUIRING, CUZ IT WAS THE MOST WELL-PRICED RETAIL TRACK AROUND.

AND THEN ONCE THEY DIVE INTO IT, THEY, THEY TURN AWAY FROM IT.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF IT AND WE'VE TRIED TO GET THIS, UM, UH, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL HERE AND FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE A, A A, A GOOD USE FOR THIS TRACK.

UH, ONE OF THE, THE MAIN REASON FOR THE, UM, LACK OF RETAIL INTEREST IS BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, WELL I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET TO THIS MAP, BUT IF YOU COULD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT OR THAT THAT'LL WORK RIGHT THERE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S KIND OF AN L-SHAPED THERE.

RETAILERS LOVE VISIBILITY.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE VISIBILITY, RETAILERS DON'T DO VERY GOOD.

AND SO IF YOU DID A STANDARD KIND OF L-SHAPE, UH, TYPE OF BUILDING, UH, ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, WRAPPING THE SOUTH SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE, THEN UM, THE FIRST SPACES TOWARDS, UM, MAYBE THERE, UH, MAYBE THE FIRST AND SECOND SPACE WOULD HAVE SOME VISIBILITY AND THEREFORE WOULD GET SOME RETAIL SALES.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, BACK GOING BACK ON ON AROUND INTO THE EAST, UH, I COULD NOT SEE THOSE AS BEING, UH, A PURE RETAIL USE, WHICH WOULD, UH, ALSO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOUR SALES TAX REVENUE.

YOU'RE JUST NOT GONNA GET IT EXCEPT FOR IN THOSE FIRST OR SECOND SPACES IN A STANDARD NEIGHBORHOOD STRIP RETAIL CENTER.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD REASON TO STRONGLY CONSIDER THIS.

UH, FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UH, ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE THE, UM, TAX BASE.

IF, IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE THIS ZONING REQUEST, THEN UH, I THINK WE COULD GET A PROJECT, UH, ON THE GROUND PRETTY QUICK AND IT WOULDN'T BE US, I'D BE SELLING IT.

UH, I DON'T HAVE A, UH, TOWN HOME DEVELOPER LINED UP, BUT I KNOW MANY, MANY OF THEM WERE LOOKING FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.

AND SO I THINK YOU COULD GET SOME TAX BASE HAD ALARM TAX BASE ON THE GROUND AND PROBABLY 18 MONTHS AND IT STAYED RETAIL.

I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW LONG IT WOULD BE BEFORE YOU GOT SOME TAX REVENUE, UH, A AD VALOR TAX REVENUE.

UH, AS VINCE ALSO APTLY STATED EARLIER, THERE WERE SOME TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

UH, WE'D DONE A, WE HIRED CARLSON BRISSON DURING, UH, TO DO A A T TRAFFIC STUDY.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT WE'D BE GLAD TO SHARE IT.

IT'S, UH, DATED, UH, OCTOBER 16TH, 2022 WHEN WE STARTED DIVING IN HERE.

UH, 30 UNITS OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING HAS 283 TRIPS PER DAY.

A UH, 20,000 SQUARE FOOT STRIP RETAIL CENTER, WHICH WOULD BE 10% OF THE LOT AREA, UM, WOULD BE 1,089 TRIPS PER DAY.

THAT'S 26%.

THE MEDIUM DENSITY IS 20% 6% OF THE TRAFFIC LOAD OF A STRIP RETAIL CENTER OF 20,000 SQUARE FEET.

SO WE THINK THAT'LL HELP YOUR TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT ARE, ARE ON BB ROAD AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, IN SUMMARY, I I HAVE FOUR POINTS AGAIN THAT I WILL HIT THAT, UH, I THINK YOU SHOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER FOR, UM, THE REZONING OF THAT THE SHAPE IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR SALES TAX REVENUE.

THERE'LL BE LESS TRAFFIC AS A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

THE ADOR TAX BASE WILL GET THERE SOONER.

AND THEN LASTLY, UH, AS WILL ALSO STATED IN HIS, UH, PRESENTATION, THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED, UH, TYPE OF HOUSING FOR YOUR FAIR CITY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR COMMENTS? MAYOR PROTO? OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU BOTH FOR, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

UM, I UNDERSTAND, I HEAR, I HEAR ALL OF YOU IN, IN THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THE RETAIL AND ALSO THE COMMERCIAL, BUT I LIVE THERE LITERALLY RIGHT IN THAT CORNER AREA AND UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RETAIL AT ALL IN THAT AREA AT ALL.

SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DID SOME STUDIES AND YOU APPROACHED SOME DEVELOPERS AND THEY SAID, WELL THIS IS NOT CONSUMED.

WHAT WERE, WHAT WERE THEY SAYING AND, AND, AND WHAT DID, WHAT MADE THEM WANT TO TURN AWAY? BECAUSE I'VE

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GONE TO SEVERAL AREAS OF THE CITY AND YOU HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT ON A STREET.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY, YOU'VE GOTTA DRIVE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND UM, YOU HAVE THE BUSINESSES THERE.

SO I'M, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW THE HOMEWORK YOU DID WHENEVER THEY, YOU SAY, WELL WE BROUGHT THIS BEFORE AND YOU DID CUZ I WAS HERE DURING 2020 BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND UM, AND I DID SURVEY SOME RESIDENTS THAT LIVED OUT THERE.

UH, ONE OF 'EM SAYS, COUNCILMAN, WE NEED MORE RETAIL LIKE A PHARMACY OR A SMALL PLACE WHERE WE CAN GET HOUSEHOLD ITEMS OR SHOPPING A PLACE TO WHERE A DEVELOPMENT LIKE WE CAN GET HAIRCUTS OR WHATEVER.

BUT THEN AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC BACKUP ALL THE WAY THROUGH THERE IS, IS THE BIG CONCERN.

ANOTHER PERSON SAID THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR A SMALL AREA FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AS THE CITY OF KYLE TEAMED UP WITH THESE LANDOWNERS TO SEE ABOUT COMING UP WITH A CONCEPT OF MAKING SOME KIND OF THE COMPLEX WAR.

YOU CAN HAVE, UM, THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS FOR THE SALES TAX.

THEN I ALSO HAD SOMEBODY, UH, THAT IS, UM, THAT WAS GOING IN SUPPORT OF YOU.

UH, TOWN HOMES WOULD BE NICE.

IT'D BE NEEDED.

UM, IT'D BE A, I GUESS THIS IS IS A GATED AREA, GATED COMMUNITY, CORRECT? WELL I'M NOT THE DESIGNER OF THAT.

YEAH, BUT IT'S, BUT IT COULD BE THAT, UH, BUT THE CONCERNS THEY HAD ABOUT THE RETAIL WAS WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES WOULD BE COMING IN.

SO IF YOU LOOK IN THE AREA WHERE ALL THESE RESIDENTS ARE, ESPECIALLY UH, THE ONES OVER HERE OFF SONAR DRIVE, THOSE OVER THERE IN KENSINGTON TRAILS AND ALL BACK THERE, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE AS FAR AS ANY KIND OF RETAIL, YOU GOT THE BREAD BASKET, YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE MEXICAN RESTAURANT THAT'S THERE, A LITTLE WESTERN STORE AND THAT'S IT.

AND THEN YOU GO DOWN ABOUT ANOTHER MILE AND A HALF IN HIS DOLLAR GENERAL AND THAT'S IT.

SO WITH ALL THIS RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA, I'M, IT'S, IT'S JUST STILL HARD FOR ME TO WRAP AROUND HOW WE CAN'T SEEM TO REALLY GET A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT EVEN AS IT'S FOUR ACRES.

CAUSE I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG CVS IS OVER HERE, BUT SOMEBODY EVEN MENTIONED THAT.

HAS ANYBODY REACHED OUT TO THEM OR TRIED TO HAVE SOMETHING OF THAT KIND OF A CONCEPT FOR THE RESIDENTS HERE? CUZ THAT'S WHAT I HEAR A LOT OF IS WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CORNER.

IN THE EXCITEMENT, WHENEVER THE BOND PASSED, UH, PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY COMMENTING, WOW, BB ROAD'S GONNA BE FINALLY DONE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE COUNCIL WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG MAJOR PROJECT AND BB ROAD IS GOING TO EXPAND.

SO TO ME IT'S LIKE WHY WOULD WE WANT TO TRY TO LOSE THAT RETAIL SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING EVEN THOUGH THE HOUSING COULD BE NEEDED IN THAT AREA.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO STILL WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IT.

EXACTLY.

WE REALLY NEED THAT RETAIL SERVICE.

OKAY, SO YOU GOT A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS.

HOPEFULLY I CAN ANSWER 'EM OFF IF I MISSED ONE.

YES, PLEASE.

SHOOT, SHOOT IT BACK TOWARDS ME AGAIN.

YES SIR.

RETAILERS NEED THREE THINGS.

OKAY.

THEY NEED VISIBILITY AND SO THIS TRACK DOES NOT HAVE THAT TYPE OF VISIBILITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

OKAY.

AGAIN, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THE FIRST SUITE ON A, ON A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL CENTER CUZ IT'S THE END CAP AND WE'D GET VISIBILITY AND MAYBE THE SECOND ONE AS WELL.

OKAY.

BUT BEYOND THAT, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, 15, 16 SUITES THAT WOULD NOT HAVE THAT VISIBILITY.

RETAILERS NEED DENSITY.

OKAY.

THEY NEED A, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE IN A CONFINED AREA HELPS THEM.

THOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT QUITE THERE YET.

I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A BIG FLOODPLAIN GOING, YOU KNOW, REALLY NOT TOO FAR BACK BEHIND IT AND THAT'S GONNA LIMIT THEIR DENSITY AS WELL ON THERE.

AND SO THE, JUST THE, THE DENSITY NUMBERS ARE NOT THERE AS, AS WELL.

AND THEN THE THIRD THING THEY, YOU KNOW, RETAILERS LIKE DISPOSABLE INCOME ON THERE AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT IT, THE HIGHER THE AMOUNT OF OF DISPOSABLE INCOME IN THAT AREA, THE MORE LIKELY THEY ARE TO LOCATE IN THAT AREA.

AND SO I'VE GONE OUT TO RETAIL DEVELOPERS TO BUILD THESE TYPES OF SHOPPING CENTERS AND THEY'RE TELLING ME IT'S THE MAIN ONES, THE VISIBILITY, BUT THE OTHER TWO ARE ALSO SECONDARY.

AND, AND BEHIND THAT ON, ON THOSE.

SO YOU'VE GOT, YOU'LL HAVE A NICE NEW ROAD, THE TRAFFIC WILL FLOW NICELY THERE AND IT'S GREAT AND, BUT THIS PARTICULAR TRACK WILL NOT SUIT, WILL NOT BE SUITABLE FOR RETAIL.

YOU, YOU'LL HAVE SOME OTHER RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE AREA AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT A, A TRACK LIKE THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET, UH, ON THE NORTHWEST OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT TRACK MAY HAVE, UH, A

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LOT MORE CHANCES EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ON THE CORNER, IT'S OFF THE CORNER, IT'LL HAVE A LOT MORE CHANCES BECAUSE IT'S GOT A LOT MORE VISIBILITY.

YOU'LL SEE A STRIP CENTER FACING THE STREET.

SO, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE LIKELIHOOD OF BEING A RETAIL CENTER THAN THIS TRACK JUST CUZ AGAIN OF THE SHAPE AND CONFIGURATION OF IT AS IT WRAPS, YOU KNOW, TO THE SOUTH AND THEN TO THE WEST, EXCUSE ME, TO THE EAST THERE MM-HMM.

, THE, THE, THAT VISIBILITY'S LOST, YOU'VE GOT THE BREAD BASKET IN FRONT OF IT.

YOU'LL HAVE THE, UM, FAST FOOD ON THE CORNER AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, WHICH IS UNDEVELOPED.

WE DID SELL THAT AND IT WAS TO AN INVESTOR, WE ANTICIPATE, AS DID THE INVESTOR, UH, THAT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

UH, WITH 10 31 MONEY, THEY ANTICIPATE DOING A, UM, DAYCARE CENTER THERE IN, IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO ALL THREE OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE HIDING THAT L-SHAPED 20,000 SQUARE FOOT CENTER AND RETAILERS JUST DON'T LIKE THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, CAN I? YES.

FROM A, FROM A PLANNING ASPECT, YES SIR.

YOU'VE DONE LOTS OF THESE SITES.

WE'VE DONE CVS AND WALGREENS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, I LOOK AT, AT THIS AS THERE'S ALREADY THAT EXISTING STRIP OF RETAIL IN THE FRONT.

YOU'VE GOT THE CONVENIENCE STORE THERE AND THE OTHER MAP SHOWED ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL AREAS AROUND THE HOSPITAL.

THERE'S STILL NON UNDEVELOPED.

UM, I ALSO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU CAN WALK TO A REGIONAL PARK, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU CAN WALK TO A, UH, A K THROUGH FIVE ELEMENTARY, UM, A YOUNG STARTING FAMILY WOULD BE, WOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS MORE SERIOUSLY THAN HAVING TO GET AN ANCHOR TENANT LIKE CBS, PUTTING THEM ON AN ANCHOR AND THEN HAVING THE OTHER THREE BEHIND THEM JUST SIT VACANT FRONT ANOTHER THE FOUR YEARS UNTIL, TILL THE ROOFTOP AND THE MARKET CATCHES UP TO THAT.

CUZ THIS IS REALLY SOFT NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL.

I MEAN, WE LOOKED AT MEDICAL OFFICE HERE THAT'S MAYBE 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY WILL GO OVER BY THE HOSPITAL.

SO THAT'S JUST ABOUT A THREE MINUTE DRIVE FOR THESE RESIDENTS.

SO THAT'S MY PLANNING EXPERIENCE LOOKING AT THIS AS A LAND USE.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, CUSTOMER FLOORS.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR, UM, BEING WILLING TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.

UM, SO DO YOU THINK THAT THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN INTEREST FOR RETAIL ONCE THE ROAD IS COMPLETE? I, I DON'T THINK THAT CHANGES THE MARKET THOUGH.

I THINK THE MARKET RIGHT NOW IS FOR THAT MISSING MIDDLE, THAT 200 TO 300, UM, THAT MAYBE SOME KYLE EMPLOYEES DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY CAN BUY THAT.

SOME OF THE, SOME OF CHIEF'S OFFICERS CAN BUY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK, I THINK THE, THE ROAD HELPS FOR TRANSPORTATION.

IT CERTAINLY IS GONNA BE A FOUR-LANE MINOR ARTERIAL.

UM, BUT IT WOULDN'T DRAW THE RETAIL UNTIL EVERYTHING ELSE IS DEVELOPED AROUND THERE.

OKAY.

SO, UM, YOU SAID THE PROJECT COULD TAKE AS LITTLE AS 18 MONTHS.

THAT MEANS THE CONCERN THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY WILL STILL SAND.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THESE ROADS ARE GONNA BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE 18 MONTHS.

UH, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND ENGINEERING IS ONE OF 'EM AND EASEMENTS AND, AND THERE'S A LOT THAT JUST GOES ALONG WITH IT.

SO THAT WAS A CONCERN THEN.

AND I THINK FOR ME IT'S STILL A CONCERN.

UM, AND, AND WITH THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, OUR ROAD BOND IS NOT A GREEN LIGHT FOR DEVELOPERS TO START BUILDING OR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WANT.

IT'S, IT'S FOR WHAT WE WANT AS COUNCIL AND WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT.

UM, YOU STATE IN YOUR LETTER, UH, I THINK NINE LINES DOWN THE MARKET TRENDS DO NOT ALIGN WITH MORE RETAIL, BUT I DON'T SEE RETAIL OUT THERE TO BEGIN WITH.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY MORE RETAIL.

THIS IS MORE RETAIL ON THAT, THAT SPECIFIC LITTLE CORNER.

UM, THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT REALLY MARKETING FROM SPENCE'S ASPECT AND FOR WHAT THE LAST FOUR OR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, NOBODY'S EVEN PUT A CONTRACT ON IT.

SO IF THERE'S NO INTEREST, THAT'S A GREAT EVIDENCE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NO MARKET FOR IT.

CURRENTLY.

IT'D BE MARKETABLE AS A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.

AND REGARDING THE, THE FUNDS AND THE DESIGN TIMELINE, IT USUALLY TAKES A ABOUT 18 MONTHS.

YOU KNOW, YOUR SITE PLANS, YOUR ENGINEERING, YOUR DESIGN, THE THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUILDING IT WILL TAKE ANOTHER YEAR AFTER THAT AS WELL.

SO WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT BOND.

UM, TIMING AND SEEING IF WE, WE STILL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ROAD AS WELL, BUT WE'RE SEEING HOW THAT TIMING IS AND HOW IT AFFECTS THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TRACK.

OKAY.

IF GIVEN THE OPTION, DO YOU THINK OUR RESIDENTS WOULD RATHER SEE RETAIL OR TOWN HOMES ON THOSE 4.68 ACRES? OUR CURRENT RESIDENCE?

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I THINK THEY WOULD RATHER SEE TOWN HOMES.

AND DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK COUNCIL WOULD, WOULD WANT OUT THERE? I'M SORRY.

AND WHAT DO YOU THINK COUNCIL WOULD WANT OUT THERE? UM, SOMETHING THAT CREATES A MEDIA TAX BASE.

OH, OKAY.

I, AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR, UH, I I WOULD, I, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION IF I COULD TOO PLEASE.

UM, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION WAS DO THE RESIDENTS WANT RETAIL OR TOWN HOMES ON THERE? AND I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A VERY BROAD QUESTION AND NOT VERY SITE SPECIFIC ON THERE.

I THINK IF YOU HAD, UH, IF YOU WIPED THE BREAD BASKET IN THE FAST FOOD PLACE OFF THE MAP AND ASKED THAT QUESTION YOU, IT'S REAL EASY TO ANSWER.

IT'S, IT'S RETAIL AND SO YOU'RE GETTING SOME RETAIL IN THE CORNER.

YOU HAVE SOME RETAIL THERE AND YOU HAVE, AND THE FUTURE WILL LIKELY BE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT LIKELY BE THE DAYCARE CENTER ON THE OTHER TRACK THERE.

UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF ITS, UM, CONVENIENCE TO THE SCHOOL THERE.

BUT IF, IF THE, THE, I'M I'VE SAID THIS I THINK TWICE, RETAILERS DO NOT WANNA LOCATE THERE.

WE'VE TRIED THAT.

WE, WE, WE'VE TRIED TO PUT RETAILERS THERE.

WE HEAR AND SEE FROM A LARGER STANDPOINT, A GREATER CONCENTRIC CIRCLE THAT THERE ARE LACK OF RETAIL.

BUT THIS SITE WILL NOT SUPPORT RETAIL.

BELIEVE ME, I'VE TRIED, I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS 39 YEARS WITH THE TOP LAND BROKERAGE FIRM IN THE GREATER AUSTIN AREA HERE.

I KNOW HOW TO PUT A RETAIL DEAL TOGETHER.

I KNOW HOW TO PUT A TOWNHOME DEAL TOGETHER.

MY EXPERTISE IS LAND DEVELOPMENT.

I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO PUT A RETAIL DEAL HERE.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S YOUR CHOICE.

IT'S YOUR CITY.

I GET THAT.

I RESPECT THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU DECLINE A CERTAIN ZONING APPLICATION, ZONING REQUEST IN AN EFFORT TO GET THE EXISTING ZONING ZONING THAT'S THERE, RETAIL DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

I, BUT WHAT I NEED IS FOR MY DEVELOPERS TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.

AND I THINK IF WE WILL LET MR. ATKINSON COME UP AND ANSWER A QUESTION, UM, MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN GAIN A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT, UM, REGARDING, UH, THE RETAIL VISIBILITY.

UH, CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TELL US WHAT RETAIL VISIBILITY IS? WILL ATKINSON FROM THE RECORD, EXCUSE ME, PLANNING DIRECTOR.

UM, IT'S WHERE YOU CAN, AS YOU'RE DRIVING BY OR YOU'RE WALKING BY, THERE'S A DECENT CHANCE OF SEEING RETAIL IN INVISIBLE MANNER.

OKAY.

CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME FROM WHICH ROAD PEOPLE COULD SEE TEXAN RESTAURANT? CAN YOU TELL ME FROM WHICH ROAD PEOPLE CAN SEE SUMMER MOON FROM KOHLER'S CROSSING? IT'S, IT'S VISIBLE.

LOLA, LOLA IS NOT VISIBLE.

NO.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THESE ARE POPULAR.

I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THESE WOULD BE, BE CONSIDERED POPULAR IN HIGHLY FREQUENTED RESTAURANTS MM-HMM.

.

AND SO TO YOU, I SAY IF THE VISIBILITY IS AN ISSUE, TAKE A LOOK AROUND CUZ IT'S IN KYLE, THERE ARE HIDDEN PLACES THAT PEOPLE GO AND THEY BRING TEX SKIN IS A BIG NAME AND I KNOW IT'S THERE AND I GO AND I EAT THERE.

I'M SURE EVERY ONE OF US EATS THERE ONCE A MONTH.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR NEED TO WANT TO DEVELOP THE LAND, BUT THE NEED OF MY RESIDENTS NEEDING RETAIL RESTAURANTS, ESPECIALLY FOR ME, IS EVEN GREATER COUNCILWOMAN.

WHAT IS THE AVERAGE COST OF A HOME IN KYLE, TEXAS? I WOULD SAY 300,000 IS A LOWER END, IF NOT MIDDLE.

OKAY.

BUT I HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE AND THEY PAY TAXES AND THAT I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, I HAVE A DUTY FOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT I TAKE CARE OF THEM BEFORE I THINK ABOUT BRINGING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS INTO KYLE.

SO TO, TO COUPLE THINGS TO, TO BE FAIR, UM, I THINK YOU'RE GETTING THE, JUST THE GENERAL SENSE OF THAT WE REALLY HAVE NOT CHANGED OUR OPINION ON THIS LOT.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, SO ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES IN TEXA AND SUMMER MOON IS THAT THOSE ARE MASTER PLANNED, UH, RETAIL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.

AND SO THEY'RE DESIGNED VERY INTENTIONALLY TO ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO COME INTO THEIR SITE.

THIS SITE CANNIBALIZED ALL CHANCES OF HAVING A NICE MASTER PLAN RETAIL SITE.

BUT TO CUSTOMER FLORES KALE'S POINT, WHOSE PROBLEM IS THAT? SO IT ALMOST SEEMS TO ME LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU SOLD OFF THE FRONT CORNER, PUT IT IN, IN A VERY W IN A, THAT GAS STATION IN A, IN A, IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE REST OF THE SITE, UH, DOESN'T WORK FOR RETAIL ANYMORE.

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AND SO NOW YOU'RE COMING BACK TO US SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE LARGER CONTEXT OF RETAIL AND BUILT SOMETHING WITH WHERE THE, YOU COULD HAVE BEEN INVITED INTO THE SITE WITH MAYBE MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS OR ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF OPTIONS FOR THAT BIG CORNER.

UH, AND AS A RESULT, BECAUSE YOU SOLD THE HARD CORNER OFF FOR THE GAS STATION, THERE'S NO LONGER A MARKET TO SELL THE RETAIL ON THE BACKSIDE.

AND SO YOU WANT US TO, UH, GIVE YOU A TOWNHOME ZONING SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE YOUR QUICK SALE AND FINISH OFF YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SITE.

UM, IF I WAS IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL SIX YEARS AGO, I HAVE HAND UP.

I'M SORRY.

OOPS, SORRY.

COUNCIL PARSI, I'LL GET YOU NEXT.

I APOLOGIZE IF, IF I WAS DOING THE ORIGINAL DESIGN MAYOR, I, I WOULDN'T HAVE PUT THIS RETAIL THERE.

I WOULD'VE PUT SOMETHING IN BETWEEN THAT HARD CORNER AND THE APARTMENTS THAT WOULD WOULD MIX AND MATCH BETTER BE MORE COMPATIBLE.

IT JUST, JUST CLEARLY WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THIS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE NOVEMBER LAST YEAR, IT'S LIKE THERE'S TOO MUCH RETAIL OUT THERE.

THAT'S WHY IT'S SITTING.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MASTER PLAN THINGS AND, AND PUT INFILLS IN NICE PLACES AND AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE.

UM, BUT THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK FOR A WHILE.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN LEAD THE HORSE FOR THE WATER ASPECT AS RETAIL CUSTOMER PARLEY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, SO I BELIEVE THAT HONESTLY ONCE THE ROAD GETS BUILT UP, YOU WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME FOR THIS CASE.

UM, I AGREE WITH THE JURY.

I AM REALLY SORRY THAT YOU SAW THAT CORNER BEFORE.

UM, YOU KNOW, BETTER PLANNING I GUESS.

SO THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO DENY ITEM 21 WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM 21.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARLEY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW THAT WE DENY A AGENDA.

ITEM 21.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA? YES.

SO I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

UM, BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOMES AND TOWN HOMES HERE IN KYLE.

THIS ON THE NORTHEAST SECTION DOES NEED MORE RETAIL AND I'M JUST NOT GOING TO, UM, BELIEVE THAT YOU CANNOT FIND SOME SORT OF RETAIL NEXT TO SCIENCE HALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME BETTER USE, UH, THAT WOULD SERVE THAT CLOSER COMMUNITY AND HELP OUR CITY, UM, IN TERMS OF RETAIL SALES DOLLARS.

SO, UH, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES, I THINK, UM, WE CAN WAIT A LITTLE LONGER, UM, TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE ROADS ARE FINISHED.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS A POSSIBILITY OF A MIXED USE ZONING REQUEST.

RIGHT.

BUT SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE A, A PROSPECT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY YOU COULD MARKET IT THAT WAY I SUPPOSE, BUT HAVING THE POTENTIAL FOR TOWN TOWNHOMES IN THE BACK WHERE THERE'S REALLY NO CHANCE FOR RETAIL, BUT ALLOWING FOR THE RETAIL ON BB TO STAY MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PROPOSAL THAT COUNCIL WOULD'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MIXED USE, NOT VERTICAL MIX USE.

I'M TALKING ABOUT DUAL ZONING.

HONESTLY, KEEP KEEPING ON THE MM-HMM.

ON THE FRONT RETAIL AND THEN JUST DOING THE BACK SECTION, THE BACK SECTION TOWNHOMES THE, THE, THE SECTION, UH, AHEAD OF BB UH, ON, ON BB, KEEPING IT RETAIL SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE ANOTHER, UH, AREA FOR RETAIL.

SO IT WOULD BE THE DAYCARE CENTER ON THE EAST SIDE.

IT WOULD BE RETAIL ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THEN THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST CORNER.

THAT EXTRA RECTANGLE THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE TOWN HOMES TO THE LEFTOVER PARCEL IN BETWEEN.

YEAH, THE LEFTOVER PARCEL THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE, BECAUSE OF ALL THINGS, IT'S JUST NOT GONNA HAVE A LOT OF POTENTIAL.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT THOUGH? WELL, I WOULD'VE LIKED FOR A CONVERSATION TO HAVE BEEN HAD BEFORE.

I'M SITTING HERE WITH A MOTION TO DENY ON TOP OF ME.

ME TOO.

THAT WAS THE POINT OF BRINGING IT UP AHEAD OF TIME.

SO IF, MAY I ASK A QUESTION ON THE PROCEDURES THEN, AND IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'D LIKE TO EXPLORE, UM, WHAT'S THE, IF IF THIS MOTION GETS ACTED UPON AND IT'S DENIED, IS THERE A TIMEFRAME THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT TO GO BACK TO APPLY? OR SHOULD WE WITHDRAW AND REAPPLY OR HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, I MAY WILL.

ATKINSON DIRECTOR PLANNING, UH, IF YOU WITHDRAW, UH, THE HITS YOU FLEXIBILITY TO BRING BACK AN AMENDED PLAN OF SORTS, UM, IF YOU, UH, CHOOSE NOT TO WITHDRAW AND COUNCIL DENIES IT, THEN YOU CANNOT APPLY AGAIN, UM, FOR THIS RE SPECIFIC REZONING FOR TOWN HOMES FOR AT AT LEAST A YEAR.

WELL, UNFORTUNATELY

[02:50:01]

YOU CAN'T WITHDRAW CAUSE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE, ON THE TABLE, SO WE'RE JUST TOO LATE ON THAT.

WELL, WE COULD VOTE.

THAT IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

OKAY.

.

GOSH, WE CAN MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE OFFERING THE WITHDRAWAL.

SO IF YOU DON'T WANNA VOTE.

YEAH.

SO, UH, IS, DOES COUNCIL EVEN HAVE ANY INTEREST IN ALLOWING FOR THEM TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN TO HAVE TOWN HOMES IN THE BACK? OR DO Y'ALL WANT TO DENY 'EM AND TELL 'EM TO JUST KICK ROCKS? I LIKE THE IDEA MULTI-USE.

UM, IS, BUT HONESTLY I, I'D BE OPEN TO SEEING IT TOO.

MM-HMM.

.

YEAH, I GO, I, I REFERENCE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, THIS IS HIS DISTRICT AND I RESPECT, UM, HIS WISHES.

UM, IF HE IS OPEN TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD BE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, I MIXED USE AS WELL.

MAYBE SOME BUSINESS OFFICE IF WE CAN, IF WE COULD REALLY TAKE EVEN MORE AN AGGRESSIVE STANCE ON IT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING A LOT FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

I UNDERSTAND THE TOWNHOME SCENARIO, TRUST ME, I DO.

AND WE DID HAVE A MEETING NOT SO LONG AGO WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONCEPTS FOR HOUSING.

AND I REMEMBER HAVING A COWORKER SAID, I WISH I WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUY A TOWN HOME BECAUSE NOW I HAVE A THREE BEDROOM AND I CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE YARD AND SO FORTH.

SO UNDERSTAND THOSE, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE NEEDED.

RIGHT.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

THERE WAS ONE RESIDENCE THAT SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, TOWN HOMES GOOD HELP.

OKAY.

UH, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE MAJORITY OF WHAT MY RESIDENTS ARE SAYING AND BEING THERE.

AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING THERE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS AND THE TRAFFIC AS WELL.

THE, THE, THE CONSTANT ISSUES THAT WE HAVE THAT, ESPECIALLY A NEIGHBOR OF MINE WHOSE HUSBAND WAS A VETERAN HAD, SHE WOULD HAVE TO LITERALLY DRIVE ACROSS THE HIGHWAY JUST TO GO GET HIS MEDS.

AND SHE GOES, I WISH I COULD HAVE SOMETHING JUST AROUND THE CORNER OR JUST TO GO RETAIL, SOMEBODY SAYING HAIRCUTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST, WE DON'T, DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THERE.

AND, AND IT'S JUST, AND THAT'S THE FRUSTRATING PART AGAIN, EXACTLY WHAT THE MAYOR SAID FROM THE BEGINNING.

IF IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS A WHOLE MIXED USE FROM THAT WHOLE SQUARE, FROM THAT WHOLE CORNER.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO, SIX YEARS AGO.

BUT I GUESS THAT'S ALSO GOING FORWARD FROM A PLANNING PER PROSPECT, PROSPECT, UH, THE CITY, HOW WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE AND REALLY LOOK AT THESE DEVELOPMENTS INSTEAD OF PUBLIC PUZZLE PIECE AND EVERYTHING REALLY AGGRESSIVELY LOOK AT THE LAND THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, EVEN AT CORNER LOTS AND EVEN AT LOCATIONS, EVEN IF WE'RE GONNA GO PLUM CREEK OR ONE 50 OR WATER LEAF, WHATEVER.

WE AS A, WE AS A CITY HAVE TO AGGRESSIVELY TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE LAND USES.

WE HAVE TO WHERE WE WON'T BE IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT IS.

CUSTOMER BREO.

I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE TOWN HOMES AND NOT MULTI-FAMILY.

YES.

WE ACTUALLY, SOMEBODY MENTIONED A GATE.

WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT DOING A PUBLIC STREET AND SUBDIVIDING THEM SO THEY COULD ACTUALLY PURCHASED, TAKING, TAKING A LITTLE LITTLE BIT OF THE BURDEN OFF THE, AN HOA OR CONDO ASSOCIATION.

SO MAIN STREET IN THE MIDDLE WHERE YOU WOULD CUT IT OFF, THERE WOULD JUST BE A PUBLIC CUL-DE-SAC AND THAT WOULD BE LOTTED UP.

SO THAT THAT WOULD HELP THE HOA.

THE, THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WAS ACCESSING GARAGES FROM REAR ALLEYS TOO.

SO IT WOULD HAVE A REALLY GOOD LOOK FROM THE FRONT.

BUT YEAH, WE COULD, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, WE COULD, I THINK IT'S ABOUT AN ACRE THAT WE WOULD CARVE OFF IN THE FRONT AND LEAVE THAT AT RETAIL AND LEAVE 3.6 FOR TOWN HOMES, WHICH WOULD COME INTO BE AROUND 28 SOMETHING UNITS, OR 25, 24.

BUT WHERE WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER FOR THAT RETAIL? WHO WOULD WE GET? CAUSE I JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO, IT, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A PAD TYPE OF SITUATION.

YOU MIGHT GET A BUILDING THAT'S MAYBE THREE OR 4,000 FEET THERE, MULTI-TENANT TYPE OF DEAL.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK YOU'D BE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY PRESENTATION, I, I MENTIONED ON THE AN L-SHAPED BUILDING THERE, THE FIRST OR SECOND SPACE WOULD, WOULD HAVE SOME RETAIL USES.

SO NOW THAT THE, THE MAYOR HAS OFFERED THIS SUGGESTION, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT.

I DIDN'T DENY THAT THERE COULDN'T BE RETAIL ALONG THE FRONTAGE ON BB.

SO THERE'S A WAY THAT Y'ALL COULD WITHDRAW A MOTION OR MM-HMM.

, HOWEVER THAT WORKS.

MAYOR, IT'S YOUR EXPERTISE, UH, UM, THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO CONSIDER THAT.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR TO

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REAPPLY AGAIN.

SO, UM, IF Y'ALL CAN MAKE THAT WORK, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCILMAN PARSLEY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU AMICABLE TO BRINGING IT BACK OR YOU WANNA FORCE THE VOTE? I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU GUYS TO SHOW UP WITH A PLAN, I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN HAVE ELEVATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND NOT THINK AHEAD OF TIME ON BRINGING MAYBE SOME TEMP HOMES MIXED WITH, UM, COM WITH SOME RETAIL.

IT, IT IS JUST NOT DOING THE FULL JOB.

SO I, I MEAN, I CAN AMEND THE MOTION.

I'M STILL NOT GONNA VOTE FOR, FOR WHAT IS PROPOSED.

WE CAN PROVIDE A CONCERT PLAN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

COULD WE THINK ABOUT THAT TOO, WHEN THEY COME BACK? I DIDN'T SEE ON THE BACK.

THERE WASN'T, THERE WAS NO, THEY'RE THEY'RE PROPOSING ONE.

SO, SO WHATEVER THEY COME UP WITH IN, THERE'S SOME DA RULES.

COUNCIL FORCE.

THANK YOU.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDED TO DO TO GET WITH, IF COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIS IS WILLING TO GET TOGETHER, YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS, THOSE NEEDS REALLY ARE OVER THERE.

SO WHEN WE SEE THE NEXT CONCEPT PLAN, IT'S REALLY LIKE, IT'S, IT'S YOUR ALL BECAUSE THESE TAKE A REALLY LONG TIME.

I DON'T WANNA, SCHEMATICS NICE AND I GET YOU GUYS DON'T WANNA INVEST TOO MUCH MONEY BECAUSE ALL THAT COSTS A LOT.

BUT WHEN YOU BRING IT BACK, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AT LEAST THE INSIGHT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, UH, IF NOT A FEW OTHER ONES, JUST TO GET A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT IT IS THEY NEED OVER THERE.

AND, AND I FELT REALLY BAD.

LIKE I FEEL BAD TELLING YOU GUYS.

NO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT.

AND SO I HOPE THIS IS A HAPPY MEDIUM.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GONNA VOTE FOR THIS IN GENERAL, BUT IF WE COULD JUST VOTE TO LIKE TABLE IT OR WHATEVER IT IS.

I, I, I WOULD BE AMENDABLE TO THAT.

WE CAN, WE CAN EASILY PUT A CONCEPT PLAN TOGETHER SO YOU CAN ALL SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WITH THE PAD SIDE IN FRONT AND THE TOWN HOMES IN THE REAR EASY.

SO HERE'S, HERE'S ACTUALLY HOW I THINK I WOULD PREFER TO DO IT.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS, BUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS BASICALLY WE'RE CLOSE TO PUD ZONING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IN WHICH CASE WE NEED TO START THE PROCESS OVER.

UH, AND SO THE MOTION DOESN'T NEED TO CHANGE FROM A DENIAL, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A DENIAL AND THEN TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK, UH, TO WORK WITH A DEVELOPER TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, IN WHICH CASE BY THAT DIRECTION, YOU WOULD NOT END THE FACT THAT IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT ZONING, UH, COMBINATION.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM COMING BACK AS SOON AS YOU'RE READY.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER, PARTIALLY, IF YOU CAN JUST, WELL, I NEED TO QUESTION, UH, YEAH, JUST AMEND THE MOTION TO, UH, TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND BRING BACK A PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED TODAY.

OKAY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS DISCUSSED TODAY THAT INCLUDES TOWN HOMES THAT ARE FOR OWNERSHIP AND RETAIL.

IS THAT AMENABLE TO THE SECOND AS WELL? YES, MS. BRADO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO TO, TO BE CLEAR, THE MOTION IS TO DENY, BUT TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME TO BRING BACK, UH, UH, UH, PUT ZONING REQUEST WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO THERE WILL BE ELEVATIONS AND CONCEPT PLANS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND WE'LL HAVE A BETTER, UH, UNDERSTANDING.

AND I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU WORK WITH THE MAYOR PROAM.

I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MAYOR FLORES CO.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

AYE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

[22.  

Approve License Agreement Between the City of Kyle & Caroline Marketplace, LP. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning

 

  • The license agreement is for maintenance of public street parking associated with the Caroline on Marketplace project. The project was entitled through the CSW, LLC development agreement. 
]

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 22.

APPROVED LICENSE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND CARROLL MARKETPLACE.

CAROLINE MARKETPLACE, LP.

MR. ATKINSON.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.

I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF.

UH, THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT IS, UH, COORDINATION WITH THE CITY AND CAR, THE, THE APPLICANT CAROLINA, UH, MARKETPLACE, WHICH IS A VERTICAL MIXED USE PROJECT RIGHT BEHIND TARGET ON THAT BLOCK THAT'S UNDEVELOPED.

AND THE REASON WE HAVE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT, IT'S BEC, IS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC WORKS HAS, UH, LIMITED RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS YOU ALREADY HAVE.

AND THEY HAVE THROUGH THEIR ENTITLEMENT PROCESS, THROUGH THE CSW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, PARALLEL PARKING AROUND THE PERIMETER, AND THERE'S ALSO A WATER LINE UNDER WHICH WILL BE UNDER THE SIDEWALK.

AND SO THE LICENSE AGREEMENT REQUIRES, UM, THAT THE DEVELOPER AND WHOEVER THEY SELL IT TO, IT RUNS THE LAND TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT.

PARKING AND PUBLIC WORKS WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND LEGAL WAS AS WELL.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. KINSON MOTIONS? WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, GO AHEAD.

THANK

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YOU.

OKAY, SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING, THERE IS GOING TO BE THAT PIECE OF LAND WHERE THE VEHICLES ARE GONNA BE PARKING, IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE SELLING, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE TAKING, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE MAINTAINING THAT.

CORRECT? SO THE, THE, THE PROJECT PRIMARILY IS GOING TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT AROUND THE PERIMETER THERE'S THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THE SIDEWALKS AND THE PARALLEL PARKING STREET TREES.

THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THAT.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THEY ARE REQUESTING FOR US TO ALLOW PARALLEL PARKING.

THEY, THEY ARE ALREADY ALLOWED TO HAVE PARALLEL PARKING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THIS IS SIMPLY AN AGREEMENT IN ADDITION TO THAT FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN THE PARALLEL PARKING SO THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO DO SO.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

CATS WERE FIRST GO.

UM, SO IN THE BACKUP THERE IS, UH, OUTLINE OF THE PARALLEL PARKING AREAS.

WHEN WAS THAT? WHEN WAS THAT, UM, UH, CREATED, I GUESS ON THE MAP? BECAUSE I, I'M LOOKING AT ALL THE ROADS.

WHEN WAS THAT DESIGNATED? BECAUSE THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THAT THAT'S CITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE'RE SAYING, IF WE'RE CONTRACTING, WE'RE SAYING THIS IS CITY ROAD, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE, THE, THE PARALLEL PARKING THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY? YES.

THEY WILL HAVE TO CONSTRUCT AND MAINTAIN IT.

UM, THE, I'M PULLING UP THE CONCEPT RIGHT NOW.

I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CONCEPT THAT IS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE CSSW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH CONTEMPLATED THIS SITE.

AND ALSO THE SITE WHERE CHIPOTLE AND ALL THAT'S BEING BUILT AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY.

THE, THE ORIGINAL DA WAS NOT IN THE BACKUP.

UM, SO I'M, I'M GONNA ASK YOU MY APOLOGIES QUESTIONS.

IT'S OKAY.

UM, SO ARE THESE PARALLEL ROADS, UH, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN GRANTED TO THEM.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN, WE GAVE PERMISSION, BUT IT'S STILL THE CITY'S, IT'S STILL THE CITY STREET, RIGHT? CORRECT.

IT'S THE CITY STREET.

AND IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, IT'S SPELLED OUT THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE PARALLEL PARKING ON ALL FOUR SIDES.

DOES IT SPECIFY WHERE YES, THEY HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN, UM, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHERE IT, IT SHOWS THAT, UM, THAT PARKING IS PRIMARILY FOR THE RETAIL THAT'S GONNA BE BUILT ALONG THE PERIMETER, ALONG THE STREET SCAPE AS YOU WOULD HAVE IN AN URBAN VERTICAL MIXED USE PERSPECTIVE.

BUT, UM, THERE ARE PUBLIC WORKS HAD REQUESTED A LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN THOSE PARALLEL SPACES BECAUSE THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS IS PUBLIC WORKS AS PRIMARY FOCUS IS TO MAINTAIN THE TRAVEL LANES OF THE ROAD AND ASSOCIATED, UM, IMPROVEMENTS WITH THAT.

SO ANY, UH, EXTRA STUFF THAT MAKES IT SUPER NICE LIKE THIS, UM, TO BETTER ALLOCATE RESOURCES FOR PUBLIC WORKS IN THE CITY, WE ASK THE, UH, DEVELOPER TO MAINTAIN THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY ARE BUILDING IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND THEY'VE AGREED TO DO SO.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS.

SO THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO USE PUBLIC STREETS FOR THEIR PRIVATE, THOSE ARE, THAT'S GONNA BE PUBLIC PARKING? IT'S GONNA BE PUBLIC PARKING MM-HMM.

.

BUT IT'S, IT WAS CREATED IF NOT FOR THIS, UH, RETAIL OR IS IT FOR APARTMENTS TOO? IT'LL BE A MIX.

SO THEY, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PARKING ONSITE INTERNAL TO THE SITE, RIGHT.

FOR ALL THE REST, DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING IN ORDER FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR DEVELOPMENT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

UM, AND BUT FOR THE PUBLIC TO ACCESS THE PARKING AROUND THE PERIMETER TO GET TO THOSE SHOPS THAT ARE GONNA GO IN THERE, UM, THAT'S A VERY TYPICAL STANDARD WHERE YOU HAVE THE PARALLEL PARKING, OR IN THIS CASE, LIKE IN FRONT OF CITY HALL, YOU HAVE THE ENGLE PARKING ALONG CENTER STREET TO TO, TO UTILIZE THOSE BUSINESSES.

OKAY.

AND DID, DID, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR THAT.

I ADDED IT UP.

IT'S 26,447 SQUARE FEET THAT THE CITY'S GIVING UP, UH, WHICH IS ALSO BREAKS DOWN TO OVER, OVER MORE THAN HALF AN ACRE.

SO I'M JUST GONNA, I'M, I WAS REALLY BAMBOOZLED, APPARENTLY I WAS ON HERE FOR THIS, BUT THIS WAS NEVER EXPLAINED TO ME.

SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, WHY WE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO, UH, I GUESS CONTROL, UH, SO MUCH PARKING SPACES.

THEY'RE, IT, IT'S PUBLIC PARKING, SO THEY ARE MAKING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THE SITE BETTER, UH, FOR THAT PUBLIC PARKING.

SO ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC CAN PARK THERE.

IT'S FREE PARKING.

IT'S AT THE COST OF THE DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT IT THOUGH, AND ALSO TO MAINTAIN IT WITH THIS AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

SO MY NEXT QUESTION, SO IF IN THE EVENT WE NEED SOME MAINTENANCE ON, ON THIS, ON THESE PARKING SPACES, THE, THE PEOPLE WE WOULD GO TO IS CAROLINE MARKETPLACE LP.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

SO PAGE, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, CAROLINE MARKETPLACE.

LP IS GOVERNED BY CAROLINE MARKETPLACE, GP, WHICH IS GOVERNED BY CAROLINE MARKETPLACE, J V L P, WHICH IS GOVERNED BY

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M I P CAROLINE MARKETPLACE, LP, WHICH IS GOVERNED BY MORGAN, P R L, CAROLINE, MARKETPLACE, GP, LLC.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHO DO WE CALL? THERE'S A NAME, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF I HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE TO FIGURE OUT WHO NEEDS TO MAINTAIN THOSE ROADS, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK.

THERE'S A, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE NAME THAT'S ON THE AGREEMENT EITHER.

ALL THESE ENTITIES ARE LIKE LESS THAN A YEAR OLD.

THERE'S A NOTICE PROVISION THAT GIVES YOU A POINT OF CONTACT FOR NOTICES UNDER THE AGREEMENT.

RIGHT.

SO THAT, THAT'S WHO YOU WOULD GIVE NOTICE TO IF THERE'S A LACK OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT.

I MEAN, IT'S BASIC.

UH, IT'S GONNA BE BASIC MAINTENANCE, RIGHT? SO IN IN THE EVENT, YEAH.

SO THE NOTICE IS ACTUALLY CAROLINE MARKETPLACE, LP I'M SURE, I'M SURE.

IF YOU WANTED TO PROPOSE THAT THE CITY WOULD TAKE THE OBLIGATION OF MAINTAINING THE PARKING SPACES, THAT THEY WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO THAT AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE ON THE HOOK ANYMORE.

WHAT ABOUT THE WATER LINES THAT WENT UNDERNEATH IT? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT IT? WOULD, WOULD THEY HAVE GONE THERE EVEN? I MEAN, THIS IS NOT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO DO A TIP FOR TA I'M TRYING TO SAY IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, I NEED TO MAKE SURE MY CITY'S TAKEN CARE OF.

AND IN THAT SCENARIO, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CONTACT AND GOING THROUGH AND MAKING SURE ALL THAT THESE ENTITIES ARE, ARE CONNECTED, IS A LOT OF WORK.

AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE'RE SAYING YES, CAROLINE MARKETPLACE, LP IS GONNA BE THE ONE THAT MAINTAINS THOSE ROADS THAT WE UNDERSTAND IT'S GONNA BE A PROCESS TO GET AHOLD OF SOMEBODY.

COULD BE, COULD BE.

IT'S ALL I'M SAYING AND EMERGENCIES HAPPEN UP.

GO AHEAD.

SEE FROM CATHERINE? YES.

COME ON.

MAYOR CITY COUNCIL WITH, UH, SO I'M WITH CAROLINE PLACE LP.

UH, SO LIKE PAIGE SAID, THERE'S A NOTICE SECTION, UH, WITH AN ADDRESS FOR SPECIFIC NOTICES, UH, WITHIN THE AGREEMENT.

AND LIKE WILL SAID, IT RUNS WITH THE LAND.

SO IT'S RECORDED ON TITLE, AND IT'S A PERPETUAL AGREEMENT FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE ROADS.

SO IF WE NEED YOU, WE COULD JUST SEND A LETTER IN THE MAIL AND THEN SEND IT TO YOU, AND THEN YOU GUYS WILL RESPOND.

YES.

WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY? SO THERE'S ACTUALLY, UM, RIGHTS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO IN THE EVENT OF, OF AN EMERGENCY.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THE CITY ALSO HAS A TERMINATION, RIGHT? AND THE AGREEMENT TO TAKE BACK THE LAND.

UM, THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TODAY, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT PART OF THE ROADWAY.

IT'S PART OF THE SIDEWALK AND, UM, THE GRASS THAT'S THERE TODAY.

SO THE ROADWAY'S NOT CHANGING AT ALL.

WE'RE JUST IMPROVING IT WITH, UH, PUBLIC PARKING TO ACTIVATE THE RETAIL.

OKAY.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

QUESTIONS FOR, SO THE ADVANTAGE THAT YOU'ALL HAVE IN MAINTAINING THE ROADWAY FOR US IS CURB APPEAL, RIGHT? TO IMPROVE FOR, HAVE A FEW MORE RETAIL PARKING LOTS.

YEAH.

WE VIEW THE RE UH, THE, UH MM-HMM.

PARALLEL PARKING AS A BENEFIT TO THE RETAIL.

ABSOLUTELY.

WILL OVERNIGHT PARKING BE ALLOWED, UM, THERE SINCE IT IT'S PUBLIC PARKING? YEAH.

WE HAVE NO PLANS TO MONITOR THE, THE PARKING.

UM, SO WELL, THERE'S GONNA BE APARTMENTS THERE.

SO I GUESS, OOPS, SORRY.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF, IF THEY ARE OVERNIGHT, HOW IS THAT, SO THAT WOULD BE REGULATED BY ORDINANCE, THAT'S A PUBLIC SPACE.

AND SO IF THE CITY HAS REGULATIONS GOVERNING PARKING, THEN THAT WOULD GOVERN THAT WOULD HOW, HOW THAT, THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD BE REGULATED BY CITY ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

HANG ON.

WE GOTTA GO TO COUNCIL MAYOR PARSLEY NEXT.

SORRY.

OKAY.

SHE'S SLEEPING.

SHE GOT HER HAND UP.

THANK YOU, .

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 22ND, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL COUNCILMAN PARTIALLY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 22 IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

JUST MAYOR PRO TIM.

UM, SO THIS IS JUST THE PARTICIPATION FOR NOW.

IT'S GONNA BE PUBLIC IN, WILL IT BE LATER ON? IT'LL BE METERED.

I THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY SOLVE THE OVERNIGHT, UH, ORDINANCE.

IT'S PUBLIC.

SO IT'S PUBLIC, BUT WHO'S SUSTAINED ABOUT FIVE YEARS OR A COUPLE YEARS, THE DEVELOPER OR THE CITY WILL COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, NOW WE'VE GOTTA PAY PARKING LOT WE DO IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.

WOULD THAT BE A SCENARIO? IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL AS THE CITY COUNCIL WANT TO INCORPORATE AS A, AS AN ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE METERED PARKING AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN EXPLORE THAT OPTION.

BUT IN THE CASE OF THIS PROJECT RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT METERED.

OKAY.

IT IS PUBLIC PARKING.

IT IS FREE.

THEY ARE, THEY ARE ASSUMING THE COST AND THE BURDEN OF MAINTAINING IT.

THAT'S IT.

IT, THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR FORCE KILL, UM, CAN ALSO PAGE, CAN YOU JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE CORRECT PERSON IS SIGNING

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ON BEHALF OF THE CORRECT COMPANY? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL US IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION? AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT UP.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23.

[23.  Consider and Possible Action to Support the City of Kyle’s Participation in a Regional Climate Pollution Action Plan Grant. ~ Bear Heiser, Council Member]

CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF CAUSE PARTICIPATION IN A REGIONAL CLIMATE POLLUTION ACTION PLAN.

GRANT COUNCIL, HEISER MAYOR, COUNCIL, COUNCIL, THIS INTERNET, UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CITY TO SIGN UP PARTICIPATION, UM, LETTER TO SUPPORT THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

IN TAKING THE LEAD ON DEVELOPING A GRANT APPLICATION, UH, THE CLEAN AIR COALITION HAD SENT US AN EMAIL, AND OF COURSE WE'RE A MEMBER OF THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.

AND, UM, PRETTY MUCH WITH CITY OF AUSTIN TAKING THE LEAD, THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY FILL OUT THE GRANT APPLICATION.

AND BECAUSE CITY OF KYLE IS PART OF THE AUSTIN MSA, UM, CAP COG IS KIND OF WANTING A REGIONAL APPROACH TO A LOT OF THE GRANT FUNDS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING AVAILABLE.

SO BY US SIGNING A LETTER OF RE LETTER OF SUPPORT, WE'RE SAYING THAT WE SUPPORT AUSTIN DOING THE GRANT, AND YET THEN WE WILL GO THROUGH CAP COG AND CITY OF AUSTIN TO APPLY FOR GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA 23.

SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE KA THERE, DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

THANK YOU BEAR FOR ATTENDING THOSE MEETINGS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

SEVEN ZERO.

NEXT UP, JENNA,

[24.  Discussion and possible action regarding the Rules of Council, to include but not limited to, the recision of votes. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]

ITEM 24, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE RESCISSION OF VOTES, CUSTOMER FORCE.

KA.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL MAKE THIS QUICK.

ALL RIGHT.

CURRENTLY THERE ARE THREE WAYS THAT WE CAN RECONSIDER OUR VOTES.

UM, ONE, IF A MATTER IS APPROVED WITH AT LEAST FOUR YES VOTES, UH, THE PREVAILING SIDE, ONLY AT THE SAME MEETING THE VOTE WAS TAKEN, UM, CAN RECONSIDER FOR MATTERS THAT FAIL WITH AT LEAST FOUR NO VOTES, UH, BY THE PREVAILING SIDE REQUESTED BY THE NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL.

MEETING.

NUMBER THREE MATTERS THAT DID NOT RECEIVE FOUR, FOUR VOTES AT ALL, UH, ANY MEMBER CAN BRING IT BACK.

SO, NOWHERE IN OUR RULES OF COUNSEL DOES IT DISCUSS THE ABILITY TO RESCIND A VOTE, WHICH IS WHY I PLACED IT ON THE, UH, TO RESEND A VOTE, WHICH IS WHY I PLACED IT ON THE AGENDA.

UH, MY TWO, TWO CONCERNS REGARDING, UH, PREVIOUS RESCISSIONS ARE ONE IN ROBERT'S RULES OF COUNSEL, IT STATES, UM, THE MOTION TO RESEND CAN BE APPLIED TO VOTES ON ALL MAIN MOTIONS, INCLUDING QUESTIONS OF PRIVILEGE AND ORDERS OF THE DAY THAT HAD BEEN ACTED UPON.

AND TO VOTE ON A APPEAL WITH A FOLLOWING EXCEPTION.

VOTES CANNOT BE RESCINDED AFTER SOMETHING HAS BEEN DONE AS A RESULT OF THAT VOTE THAT THE ASSEMBLY CANNOT UNDO, OR WHERE IT IS THE NATURE OF, OF A CONTRACT.

AND THE OTHER PARTY IS INFORMED OF THE FACT OR WHERE A RESIGNATION HAS BEEN ACTED UPON.

UM, SO BASICALLY MY CONCERN IS ONCE THERE'S A CONTRACT, TECHNICALLY WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO RESEND OUR VOTES.

UM, ALTHOUGH THIS HAS BEEN OKAY, ALTHOUGH THIS HAS BEEN DONE, I FIRMLY BELIEVE AS A COUNCIL WE SHOULD DO OUR BEST TO AVOID SUCH SITUATIONS TO HELP PROVIDE CONSISTENCY TO OURSELVES, OUR RESIDENTS, AND OUR DEVELOPERS.

AND NUMBER TWO, IN THE EVENT A PERSON WANTS TO PROLONG AN AGENDA ITEM, THEY COULD ESSENTIALLY VOTE YES TO HAVE THE ITEM PREVAIL, THEN HAVE THE ITEM BROUGHT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING, CREATING A CYCLE OF NEVER ENDING CLOSURE.

SO MY QUESTION TO COUNSEL IS, DO, DO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO RESEND? I LOVE THE LANGUAGE YOU READ.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE? BECAUSE IT PROVIDES EXACTLY THE, THE CONTEXT FOR WHICH CASE A A VOTE OF RESCISSION COULD WORK.

MEANING IT CAN'T, IT CAN'T BE SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ACTED UPON.

IT CAN'T BE A CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ENTERED INTO AND IT CAN'T BE, UH, UM, A TERMINATION.

OKAY.

THAT'S BEEN .

OKAY.

THE SPIN, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU READ I THOUGHT WAS PERFECT AND WE COULD JUST CODIFY THAT, CUZ YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S A, IT'S A HOLE IN OUR RULES OF COUNSEL.

WE SHOULD ADD IT THERE.

DO YOU NEED THAT LANGUAGE? I THINK DANIEL HAS RANDOM TOO.

UH, IF YOU PULLED THAT FROM ROBERT'S RULES, I I CAN.

OKAY.

IF IT'S A HIGHLIGHTED AREA THOUGH, IT'S OKAY.

I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIKE SUPER LONG.

OKAY, THEN YES, PLEASE SEND IT TO ME.

OKAY.

WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH SENDING IT TO PAGE AND HAVING IT BROUGHT BACK IN AN, AN ITEM FROM PAGE SPONSORED WITH THAT LANGUAGE PUT IN THERE SO SHE CAN HAVE TIME TO REVIEW IT? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A NEW SECTION MAYBE UNDER SECTION EIGHT.

SECTION EIGHT OF OUR RULES OF COUNSEL IS RECONSIDER, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN RESECTION.

SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, I THINK A NEW SECTION.

IT ALMOST ME.

YEAH.

OKAY.

EITHER WAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

MAKE A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE VERBIAGE.

UH, I READ, UM,

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AND HAVE STAFF BRING IT BACK IN THE RULES OF COUNSEL FOR US TO REVIEW.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FLORES KALE, SECOND BY THE MAYOR.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I THINK COUNCIL.

PARSLEY.

PARSLEY.

YEAH.

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, YVONNE, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I WAS DISCUSSING THIS AFTERNOON WITH PAIGE SOME OF THE WAYS THAT THIS COULD WORK AND, UM, I, I BASICALLY READ HER SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST READ, SO IT'S THE RIGHT LANGUAGE.

GREAT.

I APPRECIATE, I WAS THINK THE EXACT SAME WAY TOO.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SEE, WE CAN AGREE ON THINGS FROM TIME TO TIME EVERY SO OFTEN.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL US A FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? AYE.

NOPE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25.

ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, WELL, ALRIGHT, UH, DISCUSSION REGARDING

[25.  Discussion regarding council budget workshop calendar and scheduling of visioning workshop. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

COUNCIL BUDGET WORKSHOP CALENDAR, AND SCHEDULING A VISIONING WORKSHOP.

UH, I DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS.

UM, SO THE, UH, ASSUMING MR. LANGLEY CAN PASS HIS, UH, BACKGROUND CHECKS AND EMPLOYMENT SCREENING PROTOCOLS, WHICH WE EXPECT THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO DO, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, HE HAS TO DO THAT AS PART OF HIS APPLICATION PROCESS, UH, WITH OUR CONSULTANT.

UH, BUT THAT, THAT PART OF IT ASIDE, UH, HE SAID THAT HE WANTS HIS FIRST DATE TO BE MAY THE 22ND.

AND SO I HAD A VERY BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH HIM ABOUT POTENTIALLY PUSHING THE, BECAUSE LEMME BACK UP.

HE HAS TO GIVE 30 DAYS NOTICE WITH HIS CURRENT CITY PER HIS CURRENT CONTRACT.

SO THAT'S, SO THE 22ND IS BASICALLY 30 DAYS PLUS THE WEEKEND OR WHATEVER.

UH, AND SO THE, THE THOUGHT WAS AT THE TIME, LIKE, I DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT HIM TO MISS THE FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP.

COULD WE POTENTIALLY PUSH IT BACK? HOWEVER, UM, MR. LANGLEY, UH, UH, GRACIOUSLY SAID THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO, EVEN THOUGH HIS OFFICIAL START DATE WON'T BE ON THE 22ND, RATHER THAN HAVE US ALL DELAY, HE'D LIKE TO COME UP ON THE 13TH.

UH, EVEN THOUGH HE WON'T TECHNICALLY BE HIRED AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT DISCUSSION, ASSUMING THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS.

SO WE BASICALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PROPOSE ANYMORE.

SO HE SOLVED THE ISSUE AND WE CAN JUST KEEP OUR SCHEDULE ROCKING AND ROLLING.

UH, HE IS, HE, HE IS A PART OF THE PROCESS ON THE VISIONING WORKSHOP TOO.

HE DID SAY HE WANTED TO, UH, COORDINATE THAT, BUT I THINK HE'S WANTING TO, BEFORE WE TRY TO SET A DATE, I THINK HE'S WANTING TO COME IN AND MEET US, HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS, GET A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG WITH STAFF, START THIS BUDGET PROCESS, UH, AND THEN MAKE A DECISION.

CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, THE VISIONING WORKSHOP AHEAD OF THE BUDGET CYCLE.

SO I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON WHAT, UH, HE WANTS TO DO THERE FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT.

UH, BUT, UH, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

NO, NO, NO PROPOSED DATES YET FOR A VISIONING WORKSHOP AND NO CHANGES TO THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.

EVERYBODY GOOD? ALL RIGHT.

GOOD.

MM-HMM.

.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO GO

[X.  Executive Session]

BACK INTO EXEC.

UH, SO WHO WANTS TO READ THAT? M P T? YOU GOT, YOU GOT ALL THE LOVE TODAY, SO YOU GOTTA READ THE EXEC IN.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CO CONVEN TO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS FROM TIME TO TIME AS DEEMED NECESSARY DURING THIS MEETING.

THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5 51 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR THE FOLLOWING TOPICS, PENDING LITIGATION SETTLEMENTS AGREEMENTS, ADVISED ATTORNEYS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF CONDUCT, UH, CAUSE NUMBER, UH, REFERENCING OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, ALSO THE MARSHALL TRACK CITY MANAGER OF EMPLOYMENT.

AND ALSO WE'RE GONNA CONVEY INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO 5 5187 TO DELIBERATE REGARDING THE OFFER TO BE ECONOMIC TO ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO LOCATE, STAY AND EXPAND IN THE NEAR CITY PROJECT.

PERRY WHITES PROJECT LION KING, PROJECT LA MARCELLO, AND PROJECT CHILI PEPPER.

WE ARE NOW IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.