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RIGHT.TODAY'S TUESDAY, MAY THE SECOND, 2023.
I'D LIKE TO BRING THIS REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
MAY WE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
WILL THE CITY SECRETARY, UH, PLEASE CALL ROB MITCHELL.
AT THIS TIME, COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE MAYOR TRAVIS MITCHELL FROM ROLL CALL IN THE MEETING.
THIS IS AS A SECOND FROM THE SECOND FROM, UH, WITHIN 12 MONTH PERIOD, THIS, UH, OBLIGATION YOU HAVE TO HAND HANDLE.
TODAY, I'D LIKE TO GO AND MAKE A MOTION.
DO WE KNOW WHY? UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS A, UH, AN OBLIGATION TODAY NEEDED TO GET 10.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
NEXT, UH, UPON THE, ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.WITH THAT, I'LL GO, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR SPECIAL MEETING ON APRIL 14TH AND ALSO THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FOR, UH, APRIL THE 18TH.
MOTION WAS MADE BY MAYOR PROTE TOVIAZ, SECOND BY PARSLEY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THE MOTION? THOSE FA FAVOR SAY AYE.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS, PERIOD.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ANY AGENDA ITEMS OR SUBJECTS RELATED TO THE CITY.
WE ASK YOU THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS WITHIN THE REQUIRED THREE MINUTES TIMELINE.
FIRST OFF, WE HAVE MS. LILA KNIGHT.
UM, I WAS PLANNING ON COMING HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART, WHICH IS THE HISTORY OF KYLE AND ITS PRESERVATION.
BUT SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, AND THAT IS THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE BEING THREATENED WITH HAVING THEIR HOMES TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM BY THIS CITY COUNCIL.
AND A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS BASICALLY NOTHING MORE THAN A CONTRACT.
I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THE RIGHT OF IMMINENT DOMAIN BY A MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITY, A COUNTY OR THE STATE, SHOULD BE ENTERED INTO WITH THE GRAVEST CONCERN.
AND FOR SOME PEOPLE, THERE IS NO PRICE YOU CAN PUT ON THEIR HOME.
SO IT REALLY PAINS ME TO LEARN THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL IS SO WILLING TO PROMOTE GROWTH IN OUR CITY, THAT YOU WOULD ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
NOT TO MENTION, THAT ROAD WILL GO OVER A MAJOR GAS PIPELINE.
NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW YOU'RE GONNA LIKE DO THAT, BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH QUAIL RIDGE.
MANY OF YOU HAVE VISITED QUELL RIDGE.
I'VE KNOWN IT FOR A LONG TIME.
IT WAS HERE BEFORE I MOVED HERE IN THE 1980S.
WE HAD A FORMER CITY COUNCILWOMAN, BECKY SORA, WHO FOR YEARS, DECADES, PROMISED THEM A LITTLE PARK WHERE THEIR KIDS COULD PLAY BASKETBALL.
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CAR TRACK THAT WENT OUT THERE THAT KEPT THEM AWAKE.FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS REALLY AWAKE.
IT MAKES THE RAILHOUSE OR RAIL YARD, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, LOOK LIKE NOTHING.
BUT NOW, ONCE AGAIN, THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS. AND EVEN THOSE WHO ARE, IT'S FINE JUST SHOWING THAT FRUSTRATION.
NEXT, NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, MS. VANESSA, VANESSA WESTBROOK.
MAY I PRO TIM AND CITIZENS? MY NAME IS VANESSA WESTBROOK, AND I'M THE CHAIR OF THE CITY OF KYLE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
UM, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A COLLEAGUE, ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, UH, LIZ CHAVEZ, WHO COULD BE NOT BE WITH US TONIGHT.
I AM HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I AM EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT DURING THE MONTH OF MAY, WE HAVE ART IN CITY HALL ONCE AGAIN.
THIS TIME, THE ART IS, UH, BEING PUT ON DISPLAY BY A VERY TALENTED ARTIST.
HER NAME IS ANNA MARTINEZ BOWLING.
SHE'S STANDING HERE BESIDE ME.
ANNA IS A ARTIST, AN ATTORNEY, AND A SERIAL VOLUNTEER IN THE CITY OF COLLEGE.
I INVITE EVERYONE TO PLEASE COME OUT DURING THE MONTH OF MAY TO COME AND SEE THE WORK THAT ANNA HAS ON THE WALL OF CITY HALLS, NOT ONLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT ALSO ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO BRING ART TO THE PUBLIC PLACES AT THE, FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO OFFICIALLY WELCOME ANNA AND THANK HER FOR PUTTING HER WORK UP ON CITY HALLS WALLS, UH, FOR THE MONTH OF MAY.
UH, ANNA IS HERE WITH ME TONIGHT.
JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO ADD THAT ON MAY THE FIFTH, MAY 13TH, WE'RE DOING A VENT ACROSS THE STREET AT THE KYLE RAILROAD DEPOT.
IT'S CALLED ALL ABOARD ACRYLIC ARTISTS CALLING ALL ACRYLIC ARTISTS.
WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ARTISTS TO LITERALLY COME OUT AND PAINT VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE DEPOT.
AND ON THE 13TH FOR THE, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND WATCH 'EM WORK.
AND THEN THOSE PAINTINGS WILL THEN BE PLACED ON CITY HALL SO THAT ALL COULD COME OUT AND ENJOY THOSE, UM, PARTICULAR PIECES ALSO.
SO, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE SOME THINGS GOING ON IN THE WORLD OF ART FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK? OKAY, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.
[IV. Agenda Order]
NEXT UP, WE HAVE THE AGENDA ORDER.THERE IS, UM, COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE ANY ITEMS UP FORWARD IN RETROSPECT FOR DISCUSSION AND TIME SCHEDULE.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT'D LIKE TO, UH, MOVE ANY ITEMS FORWARD? COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.
UM, MAY I PLEASE MOVE UP MY AGENDA? ITEM 27, UM, BEFORE THE CONSENT AND AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
UM, COULD I MOVE 29 AND 30 IN FRONT OF THE TRAILS PRESENTATION? IF, IF Y'ALL DON'T MIND TRAILS PRESENTATION.
UH, JUST TO LEAVE IT TO THE END.
SO WE HAVE FLORES KALE MOVING UP.
ITEM NUMBER 27, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA 29 AND 30.
[5. Approve the appointment of Amber Schmeits to the 2023 CAMPO Technical Advisory Committee. ~ Amber Schmeits, Assistant City Manager]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP WE'RE GONNA HAVE APPOINTMENTS.
THIS IS TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT OF AMBER.
SUBJECT TO THE 2023 CAMPO TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AMBER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
AMBER SCHMITZ, ASSISTANT CITY, UH, MANAGER FOR THE RECORD, UH, THIS APPOINTMENT IS AT THE REQUEST OF CAMPO.
UH, THIS WILL BE FOR THE SMALL CITIES 50,000, UH, TO 500,000 POPULATION.
THEY ASK FOR TWO RE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY.
AND, UM, IN YOUR BACKUP, YOU HAVE A GUIDELINE FOR THOSE APPOINTMENTS.
UH, HE'S HAPPY BEING THE ALTERNATE AND, UM, DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TIME FOR ANOTHER MEETING,
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UH, I THINK HARPER DOESN'T CARE FOR ANOTHER MEETING AS WELL.
AND SO I'M HERE TO FILL IN FOR THAT ROLE.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THE, UH, AGENDA ITEM? GO AHEAD.
UM, MY QUESTION IS IF, UH, WE, UH, THE NEW CITY MANAGER AND HE'S INTERESTED, IS IT HARD TO JUST SWITCH YOU GUYS OUT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
WE COULD JUST PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA.
COUNCIL MEMBER ZK, UH, WHAT ARE THE TYPICAL DATES AND TIMES FOR THIS MEETING, AMBER, UM, THAT YOU'D NEED TO GO AND ATTEND? UH, I BELIEVE ALL THE MEETINGS NOW ARE VIRTUAL, WHICH MAKES IT EASIER.
I THINK THEIR OFFICE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AUSTIN, SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
I WILL DO PLAN ON ATTENDING MOST OF THOSE MEETINGS VIRTUALLY.
UH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ONCE A MONTH.
LEON CAN PROBABLY HELP ME OUT WITH THAT.
AND YOU HAVE THE BANDWIDTH FOR IT? I DO.
LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND AMBER SCHITZ.
MOTIONS ON THE TABLE FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPOINTMENT TO THE 2023 CAMPO TECHNICAL ADVISORY AS COUNCIL MEMBER ZUKA.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IT LOOKS LIKE CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[6. Public Service Recognition Week Proclamation. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
UP WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION SEGMENT.WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH NUMBER SIX, PUBLIC SERVICE RECOGNITION WEEK PROCLAMATION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORE SCALE.
UM, WHEREAS PUBLIC SERVICE IS A CALLING, WHICH INCLUDES ROLES AND PROFESSIONS CRUCIAL TO PROPELLING OUR COUNTRY FORWARD BY UNSELFISHLY GIVING OF ONESELF TO PERFORM DUTIES SUCH AS DEFENDING OUR NATION, IMPROVING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY, EDUCATION, AND PERFORMING ADMINISTRATIVE AND MANAGEMENT DUTIES, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
AND WHEREAS, AS A NATION, IT WAS CLEAREST IN 2020 WHEN MILLIONS OF PUBLIC SERVICE WORKERS DISPLAYED REMARKABLE RESILIENCE AND DEDICATION THROUGH THROUGHOUT ONE OF OUR NATION'S MOST TRYING TIMES BY WORKING THROUGH UNCERTAIN CONDITIONS AS AN ATTEMPT TO BRING STABILITY BACK TO OUR EVERYDAY LIVES.
AND WHEREAS THE PUBLIC SERVICE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF KYLE CONTINUE TO DISPLAY HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT TO THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF PROFESSIONAL EXCELLENCE, CREATIVITY, AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.
AND WHEREAS IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE AND INSPIRE PUBLIC SERVICE POSITIONS, IT IS ESSENTIAL WE RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE DEDICATE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN WHO EMBODY THE SPIRIT OF SERVICE AND THEIR ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES, WHICH ARE THE ROADMAP AND BACKBONE TO THE GREAT NATION WE CALL HOME NOW.
THEREFORE, LET IT BE PROCLAIMED THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK AND SACRIFICES OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICE WORKERS, NOT ONLY MAY 7TH THROUGH MAY 13TH, 2023 DURING PUBLIC SERVICE RECOGNITION WEEK, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR STAFF.
UM, YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT, I I AN EXCELLENT JOB, UH, I WOULD SAY OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, AS WE ALL KIND OF STRUGGLE TO PUT OUR PIECES TOGETHER AND, AND BE GLUED TO EACH OTHER.
COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES SCALE, DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COUNCIL MEMBER FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
YES, IT IS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE ALL THE PUBLIC SERVICE THAT WE HAVE AND IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, DO A PHOTOGRAPH? MM-HMM.
IF WE COULD HAVE EVERYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH, COME TO THE FRONT, PLEASE.
USUALLY THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH ROOM.
I'M GOING TO GO STAND DOWN WITH IT'S NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH ROOM, THEN.
WE BE HERE FAR AS I CAN BE, LIKE TOO FAR BACK, SIR.
MARCO GOT ME A NEW PHONE TODAY.
[7. Air Quality Awareness Week Proclamation. ~ Bear Heiser, Council Member]
OKAY, NEXT UP ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION, UH, GIVEN TO US BY COUNCIL MEMBER BEAR HEISER FOR THE AIR QUALITY AWARENESS WEEK PROCLAMATION.[00:15:12]
MAYOR PROTE, COUNCIL MEMBERS, KATHY RAGER FOR THE RECORD.COUNCIL MEMBER HEIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING FORWARD THE AIR QUALITY AWARENESS WEEK.
I JUST WANTED TO START OFF BY JUST GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION IN APPRECIATION OF HIM, UM, BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
OUR OZONE SEASON STARTED ON APRIL 1ST AND LASTED THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST.
THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO OZONE IN OUR AREA IS MOBILE SOURCES OR VEHICLES AND VEHICLE EMISSIONS ARE ALSO A LARGE CONTRIBUTOR, CONTRIBUTOR TO PARTICULATE MATTER IN OUR AREA.
THE BEST DESCRIPTION OF PARTICULATE MATTER, UM, IS DIESEL ENGINES.
WHEN YOU SEE THE BLACK SOOT COME OUT, THAT IS PARTICULATE MATTER.
IN CENTRAL TEXAS, ROUGHLY ONE OUT OF EVERY 16 KIDS HAVE ASTHMA, AND THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 14 ANNUAL ASTHMA RELATED HOSPITALIZATIONS PER 10,000 KITS.
THE AVERAGE COST OF ASTHMA HOSPITALIZATION IN 2016 WAS JUST UNDER $24,000.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT PRICE HAS GONE DOWN.
REDUCTIONS IN SHORT-TERM EXPOSURE TO OZONE, PARTICULATE MATTER, AND OTHER POLLUTANTS CAN HELP REDUCE ASTHMA RELATED, UH, EXACERBATIONS IN HOSPITALIZATIONS, REDUCTIONS IN LONG-TERM EXPOSURE TO PARTICULATE MATTER CAN HELP REDUCE THE DEVELOPMENT OF ASTHMA IN CHILDREN IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ASTHMA IS A MAJOR NON-COMMUNICABLE DISEASE AFFECTING BOTH CHILDREN AND ADULTS, AND IS THE MOST COMMON CHRONIC DISEASE AMONG CHILDREN.
ASTHMA IS A CONDITION IN WHICH A PERSON'S AIRWAYS BECOME INFLAMED, NARROW AND SWELL, MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO BREATHE, CAUSING SHORTNESS OF BREATH AND TIGHTNESS OF THE CHEST.
SUMMER DAYS IN TEXAS ARE CONDUCIVE FOR OZONE, UH, DUE TO THE FORMATION OF HIGH PRESSURE SYSTEMS THAT DOMINATE OUR LOCAL WEATHER PATTERNS IN THE SUMMER, GIVING US CLEAR SKIES.
BUT STAGNANT WINDS, THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATIONS OF OZONE FORM ON WARM, SUNNY DAYS WITH LIGHT WIND SPEEDS, WHICH ALLOW FOR MORE AIR QUALITY POLLUTANTS TO FORM AND ACCUMULATE A GROUND LEVEL.
SO THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US AS THE CITY AND AS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN DURING OUR OZONE SEASON.
COUNCILMAN HEISER, YOU WANNA ADD A LITTLE? YEAH.
THANK YOU, UH, KATHY, FOR COMING UP HERE TO SPEAK.
I JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT BIG ON PROCLAMATIONS NECESSARILY, BUT I DO WANT TO DRAW AWARENESS AND LET THE EXPERTS COME UP AND SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT ARE THE MOST PRESSING FOR OUR CITY.
AND KATHY, THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT.
UH, AND THIS ISSUE IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE AS A COUNCIL ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW WITH K P D TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY, UH, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BETTER ENFORCE, UH, SOME OF, UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD HELP, UH, DO TO REDUCE, UM, SOME OF THE POLLUTANTS CAUSED BY, UM, A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S TAKING PLACE IN THE CITY.
AND SO, UM, IT'S ON OUR RADAR AND, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO, TO TRY TO, UM, BRIDGE THAT GAP.
UH, UH, I CAN ATTEST TO THAT BEING AN ASTHMATIC ALL MY LIFE.
UH, I UNDERSTAND WHENEVER WE ALSO HAVE WEATHER PATTERN CHANGES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT RAINS FOR ME, I, I'M LIKE, I'M WIPED OUT.
SO, UH, CAN IMAGINE HOW KIDS TODAY, OR JUST PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE TRYING TO EXERCISE AND BE OUT THERE IN THE, IN THE OPEN SPACE, WHICH WE'RE ALWAYS PROMOTING, LIKE COUNCILMAN ZUKA IS ALWAYS PROMOTING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHICH WE APPRECIATE A LOT.
UH, WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT AS A CITY TO DO OUR PART, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AS MUCH CLEAN AIR FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BREATHE AND, AND SO FORTH.
AND, AND IT IS IMPORTANT, WE HEAR ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE, THE POPULATIONS IN BIG CITIES WHERE THEY'RE AIR QUALITY LIKE LOS ANGELES OR CHICAGO, BUT THOSE PLACES.
BUT WE CAN DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO WHEN AS WE'RE DOING OUR CONSTRUCTION, WHEN WE HAVE THESE BIG TRUCKS THAT COME IN, WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN TO TRY TO MAYBE REGULATE CERTAIN TYPES OF DAYS TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THEM GO THROUGH.
IT JUST, IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP ON THE RADAR AND, AND KEEP THE, UH, THE BOX OPEN ON THAT END TO WHERE WE CAN COME UP WITH IDEAS.
DID YOU WANT TO DO A PHOTOGRAPH AS WELL, SIR? NO, THAT'S OKAY.
THE NEXT ITEM WOULD BE, UH, AGENDA NUMBER EIGHT, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND POSTPONE THAT.
[9.
Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager
- The Wall that Heals
- Kyle Fair A Tex-Travaganza
- Post Oak Community Garden Groundbreaking
- Pool Opens May 27th
- Library Book Sale
- Story Time Pause
- Library Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month Events
- Summer Reading Program
- Comprehensive Master Plan Update
- July 4th - First Tuesday Council Meeting
- Team Kyle Update
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, UPDATE ON THE VARIOUS CAPITAL PROJ IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, ROAD PROJECTS, BUILDING PROGRAMS, AND OTHER GENERAL OPERATION ACTIVITIES, UH, WHERE
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ACTION NOT REQUIRED.SO INTERN MAY BE, UH, JERRY HENDRICKS, MAYOR COUNSEL, JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER.
FOR THE RECORD, I'D LIKE TO START MY REPORT THIS EVENING WITH OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, MARY ESPINOZA, MAYOR PRO TEMAN COUNCIL MARIA ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
SO I HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD, BUT THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL WALL THAT HEALS IS NOW IN KYLE AND AT LAKE KYLE.
UH, SO TOMORROW, ALL DAY WE'LL BE SETTING UP THE WALL.
AND THEN ON THURSDAY, THE WALL OFFICIALLY OPENS TO THE PUBLIC.
IT WILL BE OPEN THROUGH SUNDAY AT, UH, TWO O'CLOCK ON SUNDAY, MAY 7TH.
UM, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL WALL THAT HEALS.
IT IS A TRAVELING EXHIBIT THAT'S EXACT REPLICA OF THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL WALL.
UH, IT FEATURES MORE THAN 58,281 NAMES OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE IN VIETNAM, AND MORE THAN, AND IT HONORS MORE THAN 3 MILLION AMERICANS WHO SERVED, UM, IN THE US ARMED FORCES IN THE VIETNAM WAR.
SO, UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HOST THE WALL.
UM, AND IF YOU GET A CHANCE, WE DO HAVE THE OPENING CEREMONIES THURSDAY MORNING, AND THEN THE CLOSING CEREMONIES ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
AND THEN IN TWO AND A HALF WEEKS, WE WILL HOST THE KYLE FAIR, A TEXT OF AZA AT LAKE KYLE PARK.
IT IS A THREE DAY FESTIVAL ON MAY 19TH, 20TH, AND 21ST.
THE EVENT FEATURES A CARNIVAL RIB AND RITA CONTEST FIREWORKS ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
UM, AND THEN THE GATHERING OF KYLE'S, WHICH IS KYLE'S ATTEMPT TO BREAK THE I'M GUINNESS SPARK OF WORLD RECORDS FOR THE MOST KYLE'S IN ONE PLACE AT A TIME THAT WILL TAKE PLACE ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
WE HAVE A GREAT LINEUP OF MUSIC FRIDAY FEATURING JOHN WOLF.
SATURDAY, FIVE TIME GRAMMY AWARD WINNER, LITTLE JOY LA AMELIA, AND SUNDAY, THE SPA.
ON FRIDAY MORNING, MAY 26TH, UH, WE WILL OFFICIALLY BREAK GROUND ON OUR COMMUNITY GARDEN WITH A VERY SMALL RIBBON CUTTING.
STAFF WILL BE OUT THERE WITH THE VOLUNTEER GROUPS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TO GET GOING ON OUR COMMUNITY GARDEN.
AND ALL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND.
THAT'S AT THE POST OAK COMMUNITY GARDEN.
AND THEN AT THE END OF THE MONTH, UH, OUR POOL WILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND THIS IS JUST A REMINDER THAT WE WILL HAVE FREE SWIM DAYS ON MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS, AND THE REST OF THE POOL HOURS ARE ON THE WEBSITE IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
NEXT UP IS COLLEEN TIERNEY, OUR DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PROAM AND COUNSEL, COLLEEN TIERNEY, DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.
FOR THE RECORD, UM, THIS SATURDAY WE HAVE A BOOK SALE, UM, FROM 10:00 AM TO 3:00 PM UH, 50 CENTS FOR PAPERBACK BOOKS, HUN, A DOLLAR FOR HARDCOVER, A DOLLAR FOR DVDS.
AND YOU CAN GET A BAG OF BOOKS THAT WE PROVIDE THE BAG, LIKE A GROCERY BAG FULL FOR $5, OR A FRIEND'S OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY BAG FOR $15.
UM, AND ALL OF THE BOOKS THAT WE'RE SELLING ARE DONATIONS AND, UM, WEEDED BOOKS FROM OUR COLLECTION.
UM, STARTING, UH, AT THE END OF THIS WEEK, UH, WE WILL HAVE A SHORT PAUSE ON OUR CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE PREPARING FOR OUR BIG SUMMER READING EVENT EVENTS PROGRAMS. SO, UM, THERE WILL STILL BE OUR ADULT PROGRAMMING, BUT OUR CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING, LIKE OUR STORY TIMES, CRAFTY KIDS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WILL BE PAUSED UNTIL THE, UM, JUNE 2ND.
UM, AND, UM, I'M GONNA SKIP THAT AND COME BACK TO IT.
UM, OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM BEGINS MAY 27TH.
THE THEME THIS YEAR IS CRACK THE CASE.
IT'S A DETECTIVE, SORT OF MYSTERY THEMED, UH, UH, PROGRAM.
AND THERE'LL BE LOTS OF, UH, EVENTS FOR THE FAMILY AND FOR ADULTS AND KIDS ALIKE.
AND, UM, THERE'LL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO CHALLENGE YOURSELF TO READ MORE AND, UM, INCENTIVES FOR THAT FOR MOST ADULTS AND KIDS.
UH, AND THEN ON MAY 23RD, WE WILL BE HAVING AN ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER HERITAGE MONTH EVENT.
TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS, ACTUALLY.
WE'LL HAVE MOANA, THE MOVIE PLAYED, UM, SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH ANOTHER EVENT, UH, WHERE PEOPLE CAN MAKE A ZENGAR SORT OF MEDITATIVE, UH, CRAFT FOR AGES 13 AND UP.
AND WE WILL BE PARTNERING WITH THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
UM, THEY ARE SPONSORING SOME, UM, ASIAN FOOD SAMPLING THAT WE'LL HAVE AT THE EVENT AS WELL WITH
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SOME OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, UM, PROVIDING SOME OF THE FOOD FOR THE EVENT.NEXT UP IS PLANNING DIRECTOR WILL ATKINSON.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
I TWEAKED MY BACK A COUPLE DAYS AGO, SO I'M TAKING A SEAT.
UM, SO, UM, COMING UP THIS MONTH, WE HAVE, UH, TWO OPPORTUNITIES FOR OPEN HOUSES FOR OUR TRIP.
NUMBER THREE, THAT VERDU IS GONNA COME DOWN, UH, FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS MONDAY, MAY 22ND, FROM ONE TO FOUR AT THE KYLE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WILL BE ON THE SAME DAY FROM FIVE TO EIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL.
AND AT BOTH OF THESE EVENTS, UH, PEOPLE WHO ATTEND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN A FREE COSTCO MEMBERSHIP FOR A YEAR.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND PROVIDE A LOT OF GOOD INPUT.
UH, ALSO, UH, THE NIGHT OF TUESDAY, MAY 23RD AT 6:00 PM WE ARE HAVING A JOINT P AND Z AND COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS TWO, UH, DIFFERENT POTENTIAL GROWTH SCENARIOS THAT ITY HAS ALSO PUT TOGETHER.
MAYOR COUNSEL, ONCE AGAIN, JERRY HENDRICKSON.
I'M CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
FIRST UP ON MY REPORT IS JULY 4TH, IS ON A TUESDAY.
SO I WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER MOVING THAT TO EITHER A MONDAY OR WEDNESDAY.
IF WE MOVE IT TO MONDAY, THEN SOME PEOPLE TAKE IT A LONG WEEKEND, MIGHT, MIGHT NOT FIND THAT PREFERABLE.
UM, AND WEDNESDAY IS, IS THE DAY AFTER THE JULY 4TH, AND MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THE BETTER DAY, BUT IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU,
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT ON TUESDAY, JULY 4TH, WE'LL JUST HAVE OUR OWN FIREWORKS HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
MONDAY, WOULD YOU, YOU WANNA DO ANOTHER THIRD? WELL, DO YOU WANNA DO IT AT THE DAY AFTER THE FIREWORKS? YES.
WELL, BECAUSE IN CASE SOMEBODY, WELL, WELL, HERE'S THE THING.
I THINK WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, UH, MARY, THE, UM, JERRY'S SAYING IS THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY BE TAKING AN EXTENDED DAY ON THE, ON THE THIRD MM-HMM.
SO, UH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
WE CAN, WHEN MARY IS BACK, WE CAN, THERE'S ALSO THE OPTION TO CANCEL THAT MEETING.
BUT AS WE KNOW, THE, WHEN YOU DO THAT, THE MEETING BEFORE AND THE MEETING AFTER COMES REALLY PACKED.
HOWEVER, UM, YOU GUYS WANT TO HANDLE IT, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T NEED AN ANSWER THIS EVENING.
SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN THINK ABOUT AND GET, WE'LL BRING IT UP AGAIN AT THE NEXT MEETING.
CAN WE GET LIKE A LITTLE SURVEY OUT SO WE GET GENERAL IDEA? SURE.
SORRY, THERE ARE FOUR TUESDAYS IN JULY.
I THOUGHT THERE MAYBE ONE MORE.
CAN WE JUST LIKE DO IT ON THE 11TH AND THE 18TH? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING SCHEDULED THAT WEEK FOR THE BUDGET, CORRECT? WAS IT ON THE FINAL WEEK? PROBABLY.
UM, WE'LL SEND OUT THE DOODLE POLL.
ALL THE OTHER NIGHTS THAT THERE'S MEETINGS FOR THOSE TWO WEEKS AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE LAND.
I'M GONNA CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION AND SKIP A COUPLE.
I WANT TO, UH, SHARE OUR CONGRATULATIONS TO AMANDA CO COSTA, WHO'S BEEN PROMOTED TO OUR LEAD UTILITY BILLING CLERK THAT, UH, WORK GROUP CONTINUES TO GROW AND PROMOTE WITHIN.
AND THEY'RE DOING AWESOME WORK THERE.
AND A LOT OF THAT HAS, IN PART, TO SUPPORT BY THE COUNCIL AND HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REDO THEIR WORK SCHEDULE, ALLOW THEM TIME IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOONS TO DO TRAININGS AND, AND, UM, START AND STOP THEIR WORK DAY.
SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, AMANDA'S CREDENTIALS.
SHE'S BEEN HERE, UH, FOUR YEARS AND EIGHT MONTHS.
SHE'S WORKED VERY HARD AND AS A TOTAL OF 15 YEARS IN CUSTOMER SERVICE EXPERIENCE.
AND WE'RE GONNA BENEFIT FROM ALL THAT IN OUR NEW POSITION AS LEAD UTILITY BILLING CLERK.
WE HAVE THREE NEW TEAM COM MEMBERS.
JOEL ORTIZ IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES TECH.
MANUEL MORALES AND CARRIE SOTO ARE BOTH NEW TELECOMMUNICATORS.
AND I JUST WANNA BRAG ON OUR TELECOMMUNICATOR WORK GROUP FOR A SECOND.
THAT GROUP, UNFORTUNATELY, IS NOT FULL, BUT AT LAST COUNT, THERE WERE ONLY THREE VACANCIES IN OUR TELECOMMUNICATOR WORK GROUP.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, HE IN THE NEWS, THE OTHER TELECOMMUNICATOR WORK GROUPS, OTHER AGENCIES AND MUNICIPALITIES ALL AROUND THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY, THEY'RE NOT SO LUCKY.
SO I WANT MY HATS OFF GO OFF TO THE LEADERSHIP IN OUR TELECOMMUNICATOR GROUP, AS WELL AS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SUPPORT AS WELL FOR, FOR ALLOWING THAT TO BE SO SUCCESSFUL.
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HERE COMES THE KIND OF SAD PART.SO AS, AS SUPERVISORS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE, WE BRING PEOPLE INTO OUR FAMILY AND, AND AS SUPERVISORS, IT'S OUR JOB TO HELP THEM GROW.
AND IF THEY CAN'T CONTINUE TO GROW INTERNALLY, THEN WE PREPARE THEM FOR THEIR NEXT STEP.
SO I WANT KAYLEE TO COME UP HERE FOR A SECOND.
KAYLEE'S BEEN HERE FOR SIX YEARS IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT.
I REMEMBER, UH, WHEN WE WERE INTERVIEWING FOR THE POSITION, UM, KAYLEE PRESENTED THIS REALLY QUIET CONFIDENCE THAT IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT HER IT SKILLS WERE, WHICH WERE CONSIDERABLE, BUT JUST THE QUIET CONFIDENCE THAT SHE BROUGHT INTO THE ROOM MADE HER AN EASY HIRE.
THAT'S WHY IT MAKES IT SO HARD TO TELL HER BYE.
SO KAYLEE'S GOING TO BE, UM, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF HER OTHER SKILLS, CONTINUING HER IT WORK, TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, DOING HER OWN BUSINESS AND HER OWN THING.
WE WERE GONNA MISS HER TERRIBLY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COUNCIL KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE HER AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT TO HER.
SIX YEARS IS A LONG TIME WITH THE CITY IN GENERAL, BUT, UM, THANK YOU.
WANTED TO WISH YOU THE BEST ON WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING NEXT, AND WE APPRECIATE THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDED TO KYLE.
UH, I WANNA SAY THE SAME THING.
KAYLEIGH, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK DEDICATION THAT YOU PROVIDED, UH, THE CITY AND, UM, FOR HELPING US THROUGH MANY OF THESE, UH, EVENTS.
UH, WHAT IS COMING NEXT? IF YOU'RE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT, GIVE YOURSELF A PLUG.
UM, WELL I'M GONNA BE STARTING A SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGEMENT COMPANY CALLED COMET STRIKE SOCIALS.
UM, AND I'M GONNA BE WORKING FULLY REMOTE.
I HAVE PLANS TO, UH, TRAVEL, UH, TO A COUPLE DIFFERENT STATES TO SEE IF MAYBE THERE'S SOMEWHERE ELSE I'D WANNA PUT ROOTS DOWN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID HERE IN THE CITY.
I DID SEE YOU OUT THERE A LOT DURING VOLUNTEERING WITH CHRISTMAS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND ALL THAT.
AND SO I JUST WANNA WISH YOU THE BEST AND, AND, UH, FOR YOUR EXCITING CAREER.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I JUST WANNA ADD, THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR SAYING THAT OUR IT WORK GROUP WAS FULL LAST, LAST MEETING.
SO TIM CROLEY, WHERE'S TIM? TIM'S HERE.
SO TIM, TIM CROLEY HAS BEEN OUR FACILITY MANAGER SINCE 2014.
HE, HE'S BEEN THE, THE GUY THAT YOU CAN CALL ME, ANYBODY CALL.
AND IF SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING RIGHT, HE'S THE GUY THAT GOT IT FIXED.
HE'S MADE SURE THAT BEFORE TIM GOT HERE, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
UM, WE'RE GONNA MISS TIM TERRIBLY.
HE'S, HE'S NOT RETIRING, BUT HE'S MOVING HIS FAMILY TO HIS HOME STATE OF MAINE.
AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA MISS HIM A LOT AND WE WISH HIM THE BEST.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN REPLACE TIM, BUT WE CAN REPLACE THAT POSITION.
WE ALREADY HAVE THAT POSITION POSTED AND APPLICANTS AND HOPE TO BE INTERVIEWING NEXT WEEK.
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? YES.
THAT'S, IT'S ONE THING, LIKE, IT'S, IT'S JUST TOUGH TO SEE PEOPLE GO.
UM, IT'S EXCITING FOR HIM THAT HE GETS TO, UH, MOVE.
I WOULDN'T SAY TO MAINE THAT'S NOT EXCITING CUZ IT'S REALLY COOL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO, TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AS KAYLEE DID, I THINK THAT'S AMAZING.
ESPECIALLY, UH, IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT, I SAY GO FOR IT.
THANK YOU, UH, TIM, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK HERE AT THE CITY, YOU'RE GONNA BE MISSED AS WELL.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? OKAY.
COUNSEL, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
[10. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
NEXT ON THE, UH, ON THE AGENDA ITEM IS THE C O P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT PRESENTATIONS.AND THEN FOLLOW THAT BEFORE THAT WILL BE THE AGENDA ORDER.
GIVE MAYOR PROAM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
LEON, BARBARA, CITY ENGINEER, WE'LL START OFF LAVERDE PARK.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON IRRIGATION LINES, ELECTRICAL, UH, INSTALLING SOME BOULDERS AT THE PLAYGROUND, AND THEY'RE DOING SOME DIRT WORK AND LANDSCAPING.
THEY'RE STILL SETTING LIMESTONE BLOCKS, UM, AROUND THE REFLECTING POOL.
THEY'RE STILL INSTALLING THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE IN THE DOG PARK AND INSTALLING ON SOME FENCING
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IN THAT AREA.ALSO, UH, THE LIMESTONE INSTALLATION'S BEING DONE IN THE KIDS' AREA AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE L E D LIGHTING AT THE BRIDGE.
THEY HAVE COMPLETED THE QUAR 10 STEEL WALL THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE FOOTER, AND THEY HAVE INSTALLED THE PLAYGROUND POURED IN PLACE.
IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT P P STANDS FOR, IT'S POURED IN PLACE.
UH, THEY'RE WAITING FOR FINAL APPROVAL ON THAT.
AS YOU CAN TELL, THE DATE ON THAT ONE HAS SLIPPED TO JUNE OF, UH, 2023, I THINK.
JERRY, YOU WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS, UH, DEDICATION ELEMENT.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 11, I BELIEVE MAYOR COUNCIL MUST BE JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
NUMBER 11 ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA IS TO APPROVE, UM, A CONTRACT FOR $38,000 IN CHANGE FOR THE LIKE VERDE DEDICATION ELEMENT.
THIS IS, UH, PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT WE ACTUALLY STARTED LOOKING AT DEDICATION ELEMENTS AT THE END OF LAST SUMMER.
AND WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE WERE HAVING WITH STODDARD AND THIS PROJECT, UH, THE DEDICATION ELEMENT KIND OF, KIND OF MOVED DOWN THE PRIORITY LIST.
WE WERE ABLE TO PICK IT UP EARLIER THIS YEAR AND, AND BE ABLE TO GET BIDS AND FIND SOMEBODY THAT CAN ACTUALLY BUILD THIS ELEMENT.
UH, ALL THE BACKUP, ALL THE MATERIAL MATERIAL ABOUT THIS ELEMENT IS IN YOUR BACKUP.
UM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THREE DESIGNS THAT LION HART BROUGHT IN FRONT OF US.
AND THIS EASILY WAS THE ONE THAT MET THE, THE CRITERIA OF WHAT WE WANTED FOR THE PARK.
A GOLD STANDARD DEDICATION ELEMENT THAT REFLECTED THE WHAT WE WANTED THE PARK TO BE.
UH, IT'S MADE OUTTA LIMESTONE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE, UH, UNDERGROUND, UH, IN THIS AREA THAT FEEDS THE AQUIFER.
UH, THERE'S LOTS OF WATER FEATURES IN THE PARK.
THIS, UH, DEDICATION ELEMENT IS KIND OF INTERNALLY TITLED RECHARGE CUZ IT, IT HAS A WATER FEATURE IN IT THAT, UH, REPLICATES WATER GOING THROUGH THE LIMESTONE INTO THE AQUIFER TO RECHARGE THE AQUIFER.
IT'S ALSO A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIT AND RECHARGE WHILE THEY ENJOY THE PARK.
SO, UM, I'M ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS ELEMENT OR THE PROJECT BEFORE WE GET TO THE CONSENT AGENDA OR, OR AT THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REFERENCING THIS ITEM RIGHT NOW? YEAH, I'M GONNA ACTUALLY PULL THIS FOR DISCUSSION.
THE NEXT PROJECT IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE FINAL PAINT.
UH, THEY POURED THE EXTERIOR BRAKE AREA.
THE EVIDENCE LOCKERS HAVE, UH, BEEN INSTALLED.
THEY'RE INSTALLING THE BRICK FOR THE PERIMETER WALL FLOORING AND CARPET ON LEVEL TWO IS BEING DONE.
UH, MILLWORK AT LEVEL ONE AND TWO IS ALSO BEING DONE.
THEY'RE ALSO INSTALLING THE EAST ELEVATOR.
AND THE COMPLETION DATE IS, UH, IS AT MAY OF 2023.
WE FINALLY GOT, UH, RESPONSE FROM SPECTRUM.
THEY'RE TELLING US THEY'RE GONNA START ON MAY 17TH.
IT SHOULD TAKE 'EM TWO TO THREE DAYS TO GET THEIR WORK DONE.
AND THEN WE CAN START, UH, REMOVING THOSE COMMUNICATION LINES AND THEN EVENTUALLY REMOVING THOSE POLLS THAT ARE OUT THERE, HOPE POST ROAD.
THE DRAIN IS COMPLETED, ASPHALTS COMPLETED THE COUNTY'S COMPLETE WITH THEIR PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
UH, WE WILL BE HAVING A WALKTHROUGH AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE SETTING THE DATE AND TIME LATER, UH, PROBABLY NEXT WEEK.
INDIAN PAINTBRUSH LIFT STATION.
THIS PROJECT'S GOING SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S STILL MOVING FORWARD.
UH, THE ODOR CONTROL SYSTEM HAS BEEN RECEIVED.
THAT'S THAT, UH, ITEM THAT'S ON YOUR RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE GROUND, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE INSTALLED AS PART OF OUR, UH, UH, MONITORING SYSTEM.
UH, THE WET WILL COATINGS BE COMPLETED THIS WEEK, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON UNDERGROUND ELECTRICAL CONDUITS AND PUMP INSTALLATIONS.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WE JUST, UH, JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 13.
UH, THIS IS THE ESTATE SIDE RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES.
THERE'S STILL EIGHT EASEMENTS.
WE NEED TO GET STARTED WITH THE CENTER STREET VILLAGE PHASE TWO PROJECT.
UH, SO THIS IS A, A RECOMMENDATION FOR STATESIDE SERVICES TO DO THE, UH, ACQUISITION OF THOSE EIGHT EASEMENTS.
UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, UH, THAT'S ACCEPTING, UH, CROSSWIND SUBDIVISION PHASE SIX A ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
UH, COUNSEL, I WON'T HESITATE AND TELL YOU THAT I, I MESSED UP ON THIS ONE.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER BACK ON APRIL 4TH, WE SET A HEARING FOR MAY 16TH, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO POST THE NOTICE IN THE FREE PRESS FOR 30 DAYS.
AND GUESS WHAT, UH, WE DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS PROCESS IN OUR DEPARTMENT, SO I MISSED THE DATE.
AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO RESET THAT MEETING.
SO WE HAVE RE, WE'RE RESETTING IT FOR JUNE THE 20TH OF 2023, AND THAT'S WHEN WE'LL BRING THE IMPACT FEE, UH, UH, CHANGES BACK TO COUNSEL FOR THE HEARING.
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ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR LEON? COUNCIL MEMBER? THANK YOU.UM, MY ONLY QUESTION IS FOR AGENDA ITEM 13, REGARDING STATESIDE RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES.
UM, IT JUST SAYS FOR ACQUISITION OF EASEMENTS FOR THE CENTER STREET VILLAGE, IS THAT THE COST TO OBTAIN THE EASEMENTS OR IS THAT THE COST TO HIRE A PROJECT MANAGER SO THEY COULD OBTAIN AND WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS TO GET THE EASEMENTS STATESIDE VITAL SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICE TO ACQUIRE THOSE EASEMENTS FOR US.
THE COST OF THE EASEMENTS WILL BE ADDITIONAL, THAT WILL BE ADDITIONAL WHO, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'M EXPECTING THOSE TO BE DEDICATED.
THAT LINE NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED AND MOST OF THOSE OWNERS THERE KNOW THAT LINE NEEDS TO BE UPGRADED.
SO I'M REALLY EXPECTING THOSE TO BE DEDICATED.
BUT THINGS HAPPEN, THINGS CAN CHANGE.
UM, SO I KNOW IN THE PAST STAFF AND I, I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO DO THOSE, BUT STAFF HAS OBTAINED THE EASEMENTS.
THEY'VE GONE OUT AND WORKED WITH THE RESIDENTS.
IS THERE, IN SOME CASES WE'VE DONE THAT, BUT IT'S ON THE, THE VERY SIMPLE ACQUISITIONS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MANY MA MAJOR ISSUES WITH.
UM, BUT TYPICALLY WE DO AWARD THAT THOSE PROJECTS TO STATESIDE DID THE EASEMENTS FOR ELLIOT BRANCH, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ALSO DID THE ACQUISITION FOR THE, UH, SOUTHSIDE PROJECTS.
SO DID ALL THOSE ACQUISITIONS.
UH, IN SOME CASES, IF WE KNOW THE OWNERS, WE WILL WORK WITH THEM.
FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE EASEMENTS ON THE BUNTON CREEK INTERCEPTOR PROJECT, I'VE VISITED WITH THE OWNERS AND WE ACQUIRED THOSE EASEMENTS.
BUT I DID HAVE HELP FROM A, A LOCAL PERSON THAT DOES ACQUISITIONS ALSO.
SO WE DO GET HEAVILY INVOLVED.
I GUESS MY ULTIMATE QUESTION WOULD EVENTUALLY WAS GONNA BE, IS IT, DOES IT MAKE MORE SENSE JUST TO HIRE STAFF IN THE LONG RUN? UM, AND, AND THAT WAY WE HAVE 'EM ON HAND AND THEY COULD DO OTHER PROJECTS, UH, BUT WITH A, YOU KNOW, SPECIALIZED IN OBTAINING EASEMENTS, MAYBE EVEN SHORT TERM FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, JUST THROUGHOUT THE CITY'S GROWTH.
PREVIOUS CITY I WORKED ON, WE HAD A FULL-TIME STAFF.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY EASEMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROAD BOND PROJECTS COMING UP.
IT COULD BE A POSSIBLE, A SOLUTION TO, TO CURRENT STAFF TO DO THAT IN TERM IN THE HOUSE.
THE WIDTH OF THE EASEMENTS THAT WE'RE OBTAINING, ARE THEY 20 FEET FOR WASTEWATER OR 10 FEET RIGHT OF WAYS? WHAT, HOW MUCH ARE WE PULLING OUT OF THE EASEMENTS? TYPICALLY, WE GET ABOUT 15 FEET FOR LINE'S, FAIRLY SHALLOW, SAY 10 FEET OR LESS.
IT'S NOT, IT'S ONLY ABOUT 10 FEET DEEP.
AS THE LINE GETS DEEPER, THEN WE TRY TO WIDE IT.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE LINE IS 20 FEET DEEP, WE'RE GONNA GO TO ABOUT AT LEAST 20 FEET.
OBVIOUSLY OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE A HUNDRED FEET OR MORE, BUT WE JUST DON'T REALLY GO THAT WAY.
SO WE'LL TRY TO GET WHAT'S EQUAL TO THE DEPTH OF THE LINE.
SO TYPICALLY WE START OFF WITH 15 FEET.
THAT'S THE MINIMUM THAT WE NEED TO AT LEAST GET TO A CREW IN THERE TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT LINE.
NOW, AS, AS AGAIN, AS THE LINE GETS DEEPER, THEN YES, WE TRY TO GET FOR A WIDER EASEMENT.
WE ALSO NEED CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS IN SOME CASES, JUST SO WE CAN WORK BETTER IN THAT AREA.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE UTILITY EASEMENTS? ARE THEY ALSO IN PARALLEL WITH OUR 15 FEET EASEMENTS? UM, THAT, THAT IS THE EASEMENT.
THE, THE UTILITY EASEMENT IS A 15 FOOT THAT WE ASKED FOR.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, MR. PARKER.
SO JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, ITEM 16 WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL JUNE 20TH? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, NEXT UP WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE, UH, BEFORE WE DEAL WITH CONSENT AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THE, UH, AGENDA ORDER.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PULL FIRST
[27. Discussion of the Limestone development agreement (including amendments) located within TIRZ 4, including but not limited to, the city's plan of action for 6 residential lots located in Quail Ridge. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member and Michael Tobias, Mayor Pro Tem]
COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES KALES, UH, AND MAYOR PRO TIMS ITEM ITEM NUMBER 27.THAT WILL BE A AGENDA ITEM, DISCUSSION OF THE LIMESTONE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, INCLUDING AMENDMENTS LOCATED WITHIN THE JUROR FOUR, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE CITY'S PLAN OF ACTION FOR SIX RESIDENTIAL LOTS LOCATED IN QUAIL RIDGE.
I'D LIKE TO START BY APOLOGIZING TO MY RESIDENTS FOR ANY ADDED STRESS THIS SITUATION HAS CAUSED.
UH, I TRULY BELIEVE NONE OF US WANTED TO BE BURDENSOME, BUT THE TRUTH IS, WHAT, WHAT DID WE EXPECT? UM, I ALSO WANNA THANK COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS FOR OUR MANY THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATIONS AND FOR HIS SPONSORSHIP OF THIS ITEM.
I WANNA STATE THAT MY CHOICE IS ALSO TO SPONSOR THIS ITEM.
MY, MY CHOICE TO SPONSOR THIS ITEM COMES FROM DOING WHAT ACCORDS WITH MY PRIORITIES AND VALUES AND NOTHING MORE.
UH, WHAT I WANNA GET OUTTA THIS DISCUSSION IS AN IDEA FROM STAFF FOR MYSELF AND, AND MY RESIDENTS AS TO WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE AND WHAT THE PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE FROM HERE.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHO WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THEM AND WHAT ARE THE TIMEFRAMES THEY CAN EXPECT? I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AMONG COUNCIL, STAFF AND DEVELOPERS, BUT NO ONE SUFFERS MORE FROM THAT UNCERTAINTY THAN THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE AFFECTED.
AS FOR LESSONS LEARNED AND FOR FUTURE DISCUSSIONS
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AMONGST COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THE IDEA OF UNITY.I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SINCERE UNITY AND NOT FORCED UNITY DERIVED FROM ADVERSE REACTIONS FROM DECISIONS MADE.
INSTEAD, I'D LIKE TO SEE UNITY DURING THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
THIS WILL SHOW OUR RESIDENTS THAT DESPITE OUR DIFFERENCES, WE CAN AND WE'LL WORK TOGETHER IN THEIR BEST INTEREST.
UM, AND SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS GONNA BE DO, IS THERE A PLAN THAT WE CAN EVEN DISCUSS? MAYOR COUNSEL JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD, WE DID HAVE A MEETING TODAY WITH OUR LAND ACQUISITION AGENTS AND THE DEVELOPER MARRIAGE, AND WE TALK THROUGH THE, WHAT THE BASIC PROCESS USUALLY IS, BUT WE ALSO ARE READY TO BEGIN THIS PROCESS AS EARLY AS TOMORROW MORNING.
SO, AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM STATESIDE HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
THE FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS, WHICH TYPICALLY STARTS ONCE THE FINANCING HAS BEEN SECURED AND OBTAINED, IS, IS THAT YOU, THAT'S WHEN YOU REACH OUT TO THE HOMEOWNERS.
TYPICALLY IT'S DONE WITH, UH, LAND ACQUISITION AGENTS GOING TO THE HOME SCHEDULE INTERVIEW.
BUT WE FELT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SEND A LETTER INTRODUCING THE AGENTS AND LETTING THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THAT PERSON COMES TO YOUR HOME.
AND THEN THEY WOULD REACH OUT AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE HOMEOWNERS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.
AND THEN FROM THERE, UM, YOU, YOU GO INTO INTERVIEWS WITH THOSE HOMEOWNERS ABOUT, UM, WHAT THEY WOULD FORESEE, WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO, HOW THEY LIKE TO BE TREATED, WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
AND, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, THAT IT'S THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION THAT THESE HOMEOWNERS BE TREATED FAIRLY AND WITH RESPECT, AND THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN.
AND, AND THEN AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU GET MORE INTO DETAIL ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE GOING TO BE.
AND, UM, WE HAVE FOLKS HERE THAT CAN, THAT DO THIS FOR A LIVING THAT CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WE DO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE WHO ARE READY TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS AS EARLY AS IN THE MORNING, IF THAT'S COUNSEL'S DESIRE AND DIRECTION.
I AM THE CO-SPONSOR ON THIS ITEM.
AND, UM, WHEN, UM, I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS EVEN FURTHER WAS OBVIOUSLY DUE TO A NEWS ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IMPACT.
UH, AND I WAS REACHED OUT BY RESIDENTS.
WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO.
UH, IT JUST WAS VERY, VERY, AND I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD INFURIATING, KNOWING THAT NOTHING WAS DONE FROM THE BEGINNING.
UM, THESE ARE PEOPLE AS THIS NIGHT HAD SAID, HAVE LIVED HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND, UM, FOR US TO NOT REACH OUT IN THE WAY WE DID.
AND SO W WITH THAT, AGAIN, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE A PLAN IN PLACE BECAUSE THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF OTHER SITUATIONS WE MIGHT BE IN.
AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE WE JUST PASSED A 2022 ROAD BOND TO WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME, UM, ENGINEERING STUDIES BEING DONE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE AREAS TO WHERE WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT EXPANDING SOME OF THESE ROADWAYS TO WHERE WE MAY NEED TO REACH OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS TO SAY WE'RE GONNA POSSIBLY, OR WE MIGHT NEED SOME EXTRA SPACE, SOME MORE ROADWAY, UH, RIGHT AWAYS.
AND, UH, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A POLICY AND A PROCEDURE IN PLACE TO NOTIFY OUR RESIDENTS.
AND, UM, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AND, AND AS MUCH AS I WAS VERY UPSET THAT THINGS DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOTTA MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THESE RESIDENTS.
NOT ONLY JUST THE ONES THAT COULD BE THE SIX THAT COULD BE IMPACTED, BUT THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO ON THAT NOTE, I JUST WANNA SAY AS COUNCIL MEMBER AND YOUR ACTING MAYOR PRO TIM TO THE RESIDENTS AT QUAIL RIDGE, ALL OF YOU, I DEEPLY APOLOGIZE.
I APOLOGIZE TO ALL OF YOU FOR, UM, US NOT BEING FORTHCOMING AND NOTIFYING YOU IN A PROPER MANNER.
THE ADDED STRESS AS COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KELL SAID, UH, DID NOT DO ANY GOOD.
WE AS A CITY AS A WHOLE HAVE TO DO BETTER.
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WE HAVE TO DO BETTER, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE US.I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE ALL SOMETIMES ABOUT PROGRESS, BUT THAT'S WHY I ALWAYS BRING BACK THE PRESERVATION PART OF IT ALL.
WE'VE GOTTA PRESERVE THE HISTORY, THE TRADITIONS, AND NOT ONLY THAT, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE FOR MANY YEARS AND RESPECT THEM AND RESPECT THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, IF THERE'S A PLAN THAT'S BEING IN PLACE, UH, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BRING IN SOMETHING FORWARD.
BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I'D SEE, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ON COUNCIL ON THE DIOCESE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, UH, REFERENCING THIS AGENDA ITEM, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
UM, SO I FEEL LIKE THE, THE FEELING IS PRETTY THE SAME UP ACROSS THE BOARD HERE.
UM, I, I KNOW THAT, THAT THIS DISCUSSION HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE FOR A, FOR QUITE A WHILE CUZ I REMEMBER BEING BRAND NEW IN COUNCIL WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THIS ROAD CONSTRUCTION, UM, AND WHAT IT COULD TAKE TO, TO GET THAT DONE.
UM, SO WHAT I HATED TO SEE IS, UM, THAT WHOEVER LIVES IN THOSE LOTS GETS TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE THE NEWSPAPER REACH OUT TO THEM BEFORE WE DID IS IT'S REALLY WHAT, WHAT CAUSED ME THE MOST STRESS.
I I WISH THAT I, WE WOULD'VE COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN TO, TO TALK TO THESE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE HAVING A PLAN, BEFORE TAKING THAT BOAT.
SO, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE IT RIGHT TO THEM.
UM, IF, IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT WE CAN GET INVOLVED, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UH, JUST SO THEY KNOW THAT NONE OF THIS WAS DONE WITH THE INTENTION OF LIKE, HEY, WE WANNA JUST KICK YOU OUT OF YOUR HOUSES AND WE DON'T CARE WHERE YOU GO.
CUZ THAT'S NOT, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS.
ANYBODY ELSE? I HI COUNCILMAN MRK.
I ALSO, UM, WAS JUST, UM, KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THE INFORMATION CAME OUT IN THE PAPER.
UM, BUT IT'S, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH THE POSITIVES AND THE NEGATIVES.
HOW, WHAT ARE THESE WEATHERED RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY? HOW'S THIS GONNA BE MAYBE BENEFICIAL FOR THE RESIDENTS LIVING THERE? WHAT ARE GONNA BE THE NEGATIVES? UM, AND WHY IS THE ROAD, WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THROUGH THESE SIX HOMES? UH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I EVER GOT AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
WAS THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THE STRAIGHTEST PATH TO GO FORTH? IS THERE ANY, UM, OTHER OPTION OF GOING AROUND, UM, TO AVOID IMMINENT DOMAIN? JERRY? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR WHY THERE IS NOT, UH, ANOTHER PLACE FOR THAT ROAD.
YOU SAID YOU HAD SOMEBODY HERE FROM THE COMPANY THEMSELVES? YES, SIR.
I HAVE SEAN JACKSON HERE WITH STATESIDE, UM, ACQUISITION SERVICES AS WELL AS DANIELLE DONNELLEY IS ONLINE IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THEM.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP SIR? SEAN? GOOD EVENING.
SO YOU'RE PART OF THE ENGINEERING SERVICES, CORRECT? NO SIR.
UM, SO I'M THE ACQUISITION, UH, PROJECT MANAGER FOR ANY KIND OF THE ACQUISITIONS.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT A RELOCATION SPECIALIST THAT'S ONLINE.
HER NAME IS DANIEL, CAN NOT MAKE IT.
SO IT'S BRIANNA, UH, BRIANNA MILLER.
SO WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ROLE IN THIS? WE WOULD BE THE ONES REACHING OUT AND TALKING TO THE LANDOWNERS ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
HAVE Y'ALL THOUGHT OF ANY IDEAS RIGHT OFF THE BAT HOW YOU WOULD GO FORWARD ON THIS? BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW.
AND SO IT'S, THIS IS KIND OF WHY IT'S VERY DISTURBING ON OUR END.
AND SO NOW IT'S LIKE WE'RE STARTING FROM FROM SCRATCH WHEN EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID AND DONE.
YEAH, WE HAVE A BULLET APPOINTED LIST ON HOW THE ACQUISITION PROCESS WOULD WORK AND HOW WE DUAL PATH THAT WITH THE RELOCATION PROCESS.
DO YOU HAVE AN NOW MAY I ASK, DO YOU MIND WALKING US THROUGH IT? YES, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TOO,
CUZ I WOULD HATE FOR US, LIKE WE JUST TOOK THE VOTE AND I DON'T THINK WE QUITE UNDERSTAND
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HOW THE PROCESS GOES.AND, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE MISCOMMUNICATION HAPPENED.
I'M GONNA EMAIL THAT TO YOU RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I THINK A LOT OF THE THING IS, IS RIGHT OFF THE BAT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO ON AND ON THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE RESIDENTS, EVEN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NEVER NOTIFIED, PERIOD.
AND, AND THAT'S THE FRUSTRATING PART.
UH, I I THINK NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT TO WHERE, OKAY, IT'S BEEN DONE AND, AND WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT YOU AS A CITY NOW GOING FORWARD, HOW ARE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HELP THESE RESIDENTS IN, IN THIS SITUATION? AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT IS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PROCESS WOULD YOU START GOING FORWARD AS FAR AS WORKING WITH THESE RESIDENTS ON THAT END? SINCE IT'S, IT'S ON, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT CORRECTLY.
IT JUST, WHAT'S, HOW DOES THIS PROCESS GONNA WORK STEP BY STEP? OKAY.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF AND WORKING ON AN INTRODUCTORY LETTER, EXPLAINING THE PROJECT, EXPLAINING SOME OF THE, THE DETAILS ON WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE PROPERTY, UM, AS MUCH AS, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY ALL THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
SO WHATEVER WE CAN EXPLAIN TO THEM IN THE INTRODUCTORY LETTER, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
WE'LL SEND THE INTRODUCTORY LETTERS OUT, WE'LL SEND 'EM USUALLY BY REGULAR MAIL.
WE SEND 'EM BY CERTIFIED MAIL, WE'LL SEND 'EM FEDEX UPS.
HOWEVER, WE'LL SEND AS MANY PACKAGES AS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANDOWNERS GET THAT THE, THE INFORMATION, ONCE THEY GET THE INFORMATION WE'VE ASKED INSIDE THAT LETTER, UH, IF THEY WOULD REACH OUT TO US SO WE CAN START, UM, SETTING UP MEETINGS WITH THESE FOLKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET, I THINK WE NEED TO GET SURVEYORS ON THE PROPERTY.
WE NEED TO GET APPRAISERS ON THE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, ONCE WE GET THE INTRODUCTION DONE, THEN WE COME BACK AND WE ASK FOR A RIDE OF ENTRY TO GET ON THE PROPERTY, TO DO THE SURVEY WORK, THE APPRAISALS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UH, IF THERE'S ANY ENGINEERING OR DESIGN THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, GET THOSE P THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE AS WELL.
AND ONCE WE GET TO THAT, NO, GO AHEAD.
ONCE WE, ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE SURVEYS COME IN, WE WOULD HAVE THE APPRAISALS COME IN, AND THEN WE WOULD PUT OUR PACKETS TOGETHER FOR, UH, WE WOULD GIVE THOSE TO STAFF, STAFF WOULD, I'M GUESSING, PRESENT THOSE TO YOU GUYS FOR APPROVAL.
UM, AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE DOING THIS, THE RELOCATION, UH, AGENT, SO THERE'S A, WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THESE.
SO YOU HAVE AN ACQUISITION SIDE TO THINGS AND THEN YOU HAVE A RELOCATION SIDE TO THINGS.
SO AS THE ACQUISITION IS HAPPENING, AND I'M WORKING ON THE ACQUISITION SERVICES, WE ALSO HAVE THE RELOCATION AGENT TALKING TO THE FOLKS, DOING THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE FOLKS, SEEING WHAT THEY, UM, WHAT THEY QUALIFY FOR, ALL THE BENEFITS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, TO RECEIVE.
UM, AND IT'S A, THAT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS THAT IF YOU'VE GOT POINTED QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT I COULD GET BRIANNA ON.
UM, I DO NOT, I'M NOT A RELOCATION SPECIALIST, I'M THE ACQUISITION SPECIALIST.
SO IF YOU HAD THOSE POINTED QUESTIONS, THEN I COULD GET HER ON.
UH, IF, IF SO BECAUSE AGAIN, WE, WE HAVE RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW THAT LIVE IN THIS SUBDIVISION THAT ARE WATCHING US.
SO AS MUCH INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS CAN GIVE US RIGHT NOW, THAT IS KIND OF WHY WE HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THESE RESIDENTS ARE ACTUALLY HEARING THIS.
SO ONCE WE, ONCE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THE OFFERS, UH, APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, THEN WE ACTUALLY CAN MAIL THOSE OFFERS OUT TO THE LANDOWNERS.
THEN WE TRY TO SET UP MEETINGS AGAIN WITH THE LANDOWNERS TO TALK ABOUT THE OFFER, TALK ABOUT THE, UM, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LAND AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, ONCE WE HOPEFULLY CAN COME TO A, SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT, THERE MAY BE A COUNTER, UH, THAT THEY, THEY COME BACK WITH, WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO STAFF AND I'M GUESSING STAFF WILL PRESENT THAT TO YOU GUYS.
UM, AND THEN WE COULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THAT.
ONCE WE GET DONE WITH THAT, THEN WE START GOING, WE GET SIGNED DOCUMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THEN WE GO TO TITLE COMPANY AND TRY TO GET EVERYTHING CLOSED.
SO AS WE'RE WE'RE DOING THAT THEN BRIANNA, DO YOU WANT TO JUMP ON AND TALK ABOUT THE RELOCATION PROCESS? I WANTED TO ASK IF THE DEVELOPERS ARE GONNA PAY THE COMPENSATION TO THE RESIDENTS, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE THE CITY THAT WILL PAY THE COMPENSATION FOR THE ROAD TO OBTAIN THE COMES OUT THE COST FOR THE ROAD.
IT'LL COME OUT OF THE, IT'S INCLUDED IN THE FINANCING FROM THE DEVELOPER.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THIS, ANY RELOCATION COSTS WILL COME FROM THE DEVELOPER? CORRECT.
SO AS SEAN WAS SAYING, WE TRY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WAY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THOSE WHO ARE BEING AFFECTED BY THE PROJECT.
WHENEVER THE NE WE FIRST MEET WITH OUR NEGOTIATORS AND WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT ITSELF SO THAT WE CAN START PLANNING IF WE SEE
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ANY ADDITIONAL NEEDS THAT MAY BE THERE.SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS PASSING BY ON THE STREET AND WE SEE THERE'S A HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE RAMP.
WE KNOW THAT THAT DISPLAY SEA IS, WE CALL PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING RELOCATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THEIR REPLACEMENT HOME.
AND SO WE START PLANNING FOR ITEMS LIKE THAT IN THE BEGINNING BEFORE WE'RE EVEN ABLE TO MAKE IT ONTO THE PROPERTY TO DO THINGS LIKE THE SURVEY AND THE APPRAISAL.
WHENEVER THE APPRAISERS ARE ON SITE, WE MEET ON SITE WITH THE APPRAISER, THE NEGOTIATOR AS WELL AS THE LANDOWNERS.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THESE DISPLACES ARE UTILIZING THE PROPERTY AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND CONCERNS WHENEVER WE DO WHAT WE CALL A COMPARABLE SEARCH.
SO IF SOMEONE IS CURRENTLY LIVING IN A HOME, WE HAVE TO ISSUE WHAT'S CALLED A NOTICE OF ELIGIBILITY.
WITHIN THAT NOTICE OF ELIGIBILITY, WE FIND THINGS THAT ARE, WE FIND HOMES THAT ARE COMFORTABLE IS THE WORDING USED TO WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THINGS SIMILAR TO IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, BEDROOM COUNT, ET CETERA.
UM, THE HOMES THAT WE FIND HAVE TO ALSO BE WHAT'S CALLED DECENT, SAFE AND SANITARY, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S, UM, IT HOLDS TEMPERATURE, NO GAPING HOLDS IN THE WALLS, THINGS OF BASIC INTEGRITY OF A HOME.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOMES THAT WE ARE COMPING THEM TO ARE WE'LL ALSO ACCOMMODATE THEIR HOUSEHOLD COMPOSITION.
SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE TAKING NOTE OF WHILE WE'RE DOING OUR INITIAL INTERVIEW WITH THE APPRAISAL ON SITE.
WE TAKE THE TIME AND WE'RE, WE SPEAK WITH OUR DISPLACES ABOUT THEIR NEEDS AND THEIR WANTS AS WELL AS THEIR FEELINGS ABOUT THINGS.
BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, HEARING ABOUT A PROJECT AFFECTING YOUR FAMILY AND BEING REQUIRED TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE IS A BIG DEAL, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER YOU'VE LAID DOWN ROOTS IN A PLACE.
AND THE ONE THING I'LL POST A BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY IS THAT WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THINGS THAT'S CALLED ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN BROUGHT IN ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY TO DO MORE OF THE HANDHOLDING AND EXPLAINING.
AND THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO ALSO INCORPORATE THOSE THINGS IN OUR REGULAR RELOCATIONS.
THINGS LIKE, UM, GETTING INFORMATION TOPLACES ABOUT WEATHERPROOFING THEIR NEW HOME TO HELP WITH UTILITY COSTS, SHOWING THEM HOW THEY'RE MAKING SURE THEIR HOMES ARE HOME STATED IN ORDER TO DECREASE TAXES, UM, AND MANY THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO ONCE WE'VE COMPLETED OUR INITIAL INTERVIEW AND WE'VE RECEIVED A DRAFT, A COPY OF THE APPRAISAL, AT THAT TIME, WE'LL CONDUCT OUR ELIGIBILITY, STUDY THOSE COMPARABLES IN ORDER TO CALCULATE A MAXIMUM BENEFIT.
THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT IS WE DO NOT TELL PEOPLE WHERE THEY CAN MOVE TO.
THEY CAN MOVE ANYWHERE THEY DESIRE.
OUR PURPOSE OF THAT ELIGIBILITY IS SOLELY TO CALCULATE THEIR MAXIMUM RELOCATION ENTITLEMENT.
AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ENTITLEMENT.
YOU HAVE ENTITLEMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL TENANTS, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT ENTITLEMENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL OWNERS.
IF IT'S JUST A PERSONAL PROPERTY THAT WE'RE NEEDING TO MOVE, OR EVEN IF THERE'S A BUSINESS THAT MAY BE WITHIN THE HOME THAT'S AFFECTED.
ONCE WE ISSUE THOSE NOTICES OF ELIGIBILITY, THOSE WILL OUTLINE ALL THE BENEFITS THAT EACH PERSON OR EACH HOUSEHOLD, BUSINESS, ET CETERA, IS ENTITLED TO.
WE WILL PRESENT THAT NOTICE OF ELIGIBILITY AT THE SAME TIME AS THE NEGOTIATORS OR PRESENTING THEIR OFFER LETTERS, AND WE THEN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS AND TALK TO THE DISPLACES TO HELP THEM MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, EXPLAINING THOSE BENEFITS, HOW THEY ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE AND SPEND THOSE BENEFITS, AS WELL AS LOOKING FOR A REPLACEMENT HOME, UM, GETTING THEM IN CONTACT WITH REALTORS IF NECESSARY, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A MORTGAGE COMPANY OR IF THEY HAD ONE BEFORE AND THEY'RE NEEDING A NEW ONE.
WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE FOR THIS PROCESS, WE ARE THEIR TO HOLD THEIR HAND AND WALK THEM THROUGH IT SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND NOT JUST WHAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO, BUT HOW THEY CAN GET THOSE BENEFITS ONCE THEY'VE SELECTED A REPLACEMENT HOME AND THEY'VE ALSO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AS FAR AS THE ACQUISITION COST, WE TRY TO CLOSE ON THE SAME DAY FOR BOTH THE DISPLACEMENT, THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING ACQUIRED, AS WELL AS THE REPLACEMENT.
AT THAT TIME, THEY'LL BE ISSUED WHAT'S CALLED A 30 DAY LETTER, TELLING THEM WE, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS NOW THAT THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY, UM, FOR THEIR MOVING,
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THEY'RE MULTIPLE OPTIONS FOR THEM.THEY CAN UTILIZE A COMMERCIAL MOVER, THEY CAN MOVE THEMSELVES AND LIKE I SAID, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WE WILL CHECK IN WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND WHICH OPTIONS WILL BEST SUIT THEM.
THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY THE PROJECT ARE REALLY IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH.
OUR JOB IN RELOCATION IS SOLELY TO EXPLAIN THEIR OPTIONS AND HELP THEM SORT THROUGH WHAT'S GONNA WORK BEST FOR THEM IN THEIR SITUATIONS.
ONCE THEY HAVE OBTAINED A REPLACEMENT HOME AND CLOSED ON IT, WE WILL HELP THEM FACILITATE THE MOVE.
WE CAN BE THERE DURING THE MOVE DOING WHAT WE CALL A MOVE MONITORING.
ONCE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN VACATED, WE'LL DO A VACANCY INSPECTION.
WE'LL GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE ALL OF THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY, ET CETERA, HAS BEEN REMOVED, HAVE THEM SIGN OFF IN AGREEMENT AND WE'LL PROVIDE THAT TO THE CITY SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT THAT PARCEL IN PARTICULAR, IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE PROCESS.
STATE SIDE'S ROLE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS WE'RE REQUIRED TO AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY AS WELL AS HELP PAY THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THEIR REIMBURSEMENTS AND OR ADVANCED COSTS WERE NECESSARY.
ONCE THE DISPLACES HAVE RECEIVED ALL OF THEIR CLAIMS ON THE RELOCATION SIDE AND THEY'VE CLOSED WITH THE CITY, THEN WE WILL PROVIDE THE CITY WITH CLOSEOUT FILES WITH ALL THE INFORMATION OBTAINED DURING THE PROCESS.
I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORM INFORMATION.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT INFORMATION.
JUST A QUESTION TO BOTH OF YOU.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES THAT YOU FACE WHEN GOING THROUGH ACQUISITION? AND ALSO RELOCATION SO THAT WE ON OUR SIDE KNOW, CAN ANTICIPATE POTENTIAL HICCUPS, UH, AND, AND FIND SOME AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT NEED TO, UM, BE PREPARED.
ON THE ACQUISITION SIDE, IT'S USUALLY COMES DOWN TO MONEY.
WE'RE, WE'RE HERE, THEY'RE HERE.
AND JUST TRYING TO FIND THAT MIDDLE GROUND.
AND HOW DO YOU FIND THAT MIDDLE GROUND FOR RELO? UM, WE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE FOR RELOCATION.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY APPRAISER APPRAISE THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS IF I WORK WITH THE, THE LANDOWNERS ON, IF THEY'VE GOT COUNTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THEN I JUST TRY TO SHOW 'EM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE NEED TO DO IT AND THIS IS HOW WE NEED TO DO IT PROPERLY.
SO IF YOU, IF IT, IF, IF IT'S JUSTIFIED, THEN YOU, IT'LL GET APPROVED.
IF IT'S NOT, THEN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES, THEN I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE TO IT.
IF WE'RE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES, THEN THAT'S WHERE THE, THE, THE PROBLEM COMES IN.
SO THAT'S WHERE I NEED TO DO MY, MY DILIGENCE ON MY SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE APPLES TO APPLES AND NOT APPLES TO ORANGES.
CAN SHE ENTER THE RELOCATION? YES, GO AHEAD, BRIANNA.
SO FOR RELOCATION, THE TWO BIGGEST OBSTACLES THAT WE ENCOURAGE, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES.
OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TIES AND MEMORIES, ET CETERA.
AND THEN ON OCCASION THERE IS THE WANTING.
SO WHENEVER THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A REPLACEMENT HOME, YOU KNOW, WE ALL, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR A NEW PLACE, WE HAVE THESE WANTS AND SOMETIMES WHAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS FEEL ALL OF OUR WANTS.
SO WE DO WORK WITH DISPLACES TO MAKE SURE THEY GET AS MANY OF THEIR WANTS AS THEY WANT, BY ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THEIR NEEDS.
UM, AND SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING LIKE, HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE ITEMS, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE TAKEN CARE OF UNDER RELOCATION AS WELL.
CAN, CAN I ASK YOUR NAME TOO? I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH IT IN THE, IT'S, UH, SHAWN JACKSON.
CAN YOU, UM, EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT YOU MEANT WHEN YOU SAID, UH, COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES? UM, SO SOMETIMES WHAT, WHEN I GET A COUNTER BACK FROM SOMEONE, THEY WILL, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, ONE ACRE TRACKS, UM, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT COMPARABLES FOR ONE ACRE TRACKS, NOT FOR, UM, A LOT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE NEED TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME THINGS.
THAT WAY WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COMPARABLES, THE SOLDS THAT WE HAVE, THE APPLES TO APPLES.
THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF MY BIGGEST FEARS.
CAUSE I LOOKED UP THE VALUE OF ALL THOSE HOMES.
AND ONE IS WORTH 30,001 IS WORTH 90,000.
SO THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES AND GET THEM ANYTHING COMPARABLE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THE, THAT'S WHERE THE APPRAISER COMES IN.
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AND, AND SO THE APPRAISER COMES IN AND HE APPRAISERS THAT PROPERTY, BUT ALSO THE RELOCATION PROCESS.AND BRIANNA, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS, WHERE WE'RE LACKING IN THE ACQUISITION SIDE, THAT'S WHERE THE RELOCATION SIDE PICKS UP AND BENEFITS START KICKING IN ON THAT SIDE.
UM, SO IN YOUR EXAMPLE WHERE YOUR, GO AHEAD.
SORRY, I HAVE A LITTLE LAG ON THE LINE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN, OH, GO AHEAD.
SO IN YOUR EXAMPLE HOW YOU HAVE A HOME THAT'S WORTH $30,000 RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A HOME THAT'S WORTH $90,000, OBVIOUSLY TYPICALLY THAT DISPARITY MAY BE BECAUSE OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, IT MAY BE BECAUSE OF BEDROOM COUNT, BATHROOM COUNT, ET CETERA, IN RELOCATION, EACH OF THOSE IS LOOKED AT UNIQUELY IN WHAT THE NECESSITIES ARE OF THAT HOUSEHOLD.
SO IN THE HOME THAT'S WORTH $30,000, IT MAY HAVE A SLIGHTLY SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND IT MAY BE, FOR EXAMPLE, A TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH IN RELOCATION.
LIKE YOU SAID, YOU CAN'T GO OUT AND FIND A TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH FOR $30,000.
TYPICALLY, WHENEVER WE GO AND LOOK AT THOSE COMPARABLES, WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S SIMILAR IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, BEDROOM COUNT, BATHROOM COUNT, ET CETERA.
AND LET'S SAY FOR CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS RUNNING ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
RELOCATION ON THAT NOTICE OF ELIGIBILITY IS GOING TO TELL YOU THAT RELOCATION CAN PROVIDE UP TO AN ADDITIONAL $70,000 TO MAKE UP FOR THAT GAP.
SO IF YOU AGREE TO THE $30,000 IN ACQUISITION AND YOU PURCHASE A HOME FOR THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, RELOCATION WILL PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL $70,000.
SIMILARLY, THE HOME THAT'S WORTH $90,000 MAY HAVE A LARGER SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IT MAY BE A FOUR BEDROOM, TWO BATH HOME.
WHEN RELOCATION GOES AND LOOKS FOR COMPARABLES, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A HOME WITH SIMILAR, BETTER SQUARE FOOTAGE AS WELL AS THAT FOUR BEDROOM AND TWO BATHS.
AND THAT COMPARABLE HOME MAY BE $150,000.
SO THEN RELOCATION COULD THEN STEP IN AND IF YOU AGREE TO THAT ACQUISITION PRICE, PURCHASE A HOME FOR THAT 150 RELOCATION WILL BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE THE DIFFERENCE.
YOU MENTIONED, UM, YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THEIR HOMES AND, UM, THEY HAD TO, YOU HAD TO REVIEW IT BEING DECENT, SAFE AND SANITARY IN THIS AREA.
YOU MAY FIND A DEFICIT IN SOME OF, IN SOME OF THAT.
AND SO HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE PROCESS? IT MAY MAKE US WORK A LITTLE BIT HARDER IN ORDER TO FIND ONES THAT ARE DECENT, SAFE, AND SANITARY.
THERE ARE ALSO CAVEATS IN OUR REGULATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO DO SOME REHABS TO HOMES, IF NECESSARY.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE MARKET AND THAT WILL HELP US DETERMINE WHAT WILL BE THE BEST PATH FORWARD.
AND OF COURSE WE'LL COMMUNICATE THAT WITH, UH, OUR ASSOCIATES AT THE CITY AS WE GO FORWARD.
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR PAIGE.
AND THAT'S, UH, THIS AREA, LIMESTONE IS IN A TURS.
SO WILL THE RELOCATION COST BE INCLUDED IN THAT TURS DEBT? I, I WILL PULL UP THE AGREEMENT TO CONFIRM, BUT IT'S THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROVIDES THAT THOSE RELOCATION EXPENSES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE JURORS IS, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO ESSENTIALLY IT COULD BE CHARGED TO THE JURORS.
SO I GUESS THE, UH, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE PLAN GOING FORWARD? JERRY? CAN I END WITH ONE THING ON MY SIDE? YES.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS A SENSITIVE SUBJECT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CITY AND THE RESIDENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
ONE THING THAT WE DO, UM, AT STATESIDE IS WE TRY TO TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY WE WANNA BE TREATED.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE WAY WE'RE GONNA BE OUT THERE AND DEALING WITH THESE FOLKS ON, ON Y'ALL'S BEHALF.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT CUZ THERE'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR ALMOST 20, 30 YEARS AND A LOT OF 'EM ARE RETIRED AND THEY'RE ELDERLY.
SO FOR THEM TO ALL OF A SUDDEN GET A NOTIFICATION, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEWSPAPER, HEY, GUESS WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMING FROM YOUR HOUSE.
AND, AND MY, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S VERY DISTURBING FOR ME AND IT'S HEARTBREAKING.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION NOW AND SO IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF NOW HOW, HOW CAN WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS IN A VERY POSITIVE LIGHT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE AWAY A LOT OF THE SENTIMENTAL VALUES THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE.
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THEY'VE LIVED THERE FOR SO LONG AND WE GOTTA RESPECT THAT.SO, UM, THAT LEADS UP TO WHERE WE'RE GOING FORWARD, JERRY, CUZ WHAT'S GONNA BE THE DIRECTIVE ON THIS AND GO AHEAD.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOMES THAT ARE FOR SALE, THERE'S AN APPRAISED VALUE AND THEN THERE'S A LISTING.
AND IN MANY CASES THAT LISTING IS WAY OVER THE APPRAISED VALUE.
SO WHY ARE, WHY WOULD WE NOT GIVE THESE RESIDENTS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PICK THEIR PRICE, THEIR LISTING PRICE? AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO OFF OF THAT? ARE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT UH, LIKE COUNTY APPRAISAL? RIGHT.
SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GO THE APPRAISED VALUE, DO THE THREE COMPS, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW IT WORKS.
CUZ WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL YOUR HOME, YOU LIST IT AND YOU CAN PUT ANY NUMBER YOU WANT AS A, AS YOU'RE LISTING.
AND NOW IT'S UP TO A BUYER IF THEY WANNA GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER.
SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM, FROM THESE RESIDENTS.
THEY SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LIST, A LISTING THAT THEY WANT.
SO THE APPRAISER, WHEN THEY LOOK AT THEIR, UM, WHEN THEY DO THE APPRAISAL, THEY DON'T GO OFF OF COUNTY APPRAISAL NUMBERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU COME UP WITH YOUR APPRAISED ABOUT YOU.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IF IT, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SELLER'S MARKET IN THIS CASE, THEY HAVE THE, THEY SHOULD HAVE THE, THE UPPER HAND AND THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH YOU GUYS OR WITH, WITH WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REALLY ADDRESS THAT OTHER THAN WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM THE UPPER HAND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR THREE LOW COMPS THAT WE CAN FIND AND OKAY, WE'RE GONNA ADJUST FOR MOVING RELOCATIONS, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT HOW I WOULD WANNA SELL MY PROPERTY TO SOMEBODY.
THE, THE APPRAISER DOESN'T LOOK FOR LOW COMPS AND JUST THAT, I MEAN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT JUST COMPS ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
IT, IT'S THE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON THAT THEY WERE GIVING BEFORE.
THIS ISN'T AN, AN ATTEMPT TO LOW BALL ANYBODY.
AND THAT'S AN ATTEMPT, ATTEMPT FOR, TO MAKE PEOPLE WHOLE BASED ON WHAT'S LOST, LOOKING AT COM COMPARISONS IN THE AREA.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING.
I MEAN, NONE OF US UP HERE ARE EXPERTS ON THIS MATTER, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THE QUESTIONS.
SO I, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE WHAT WE'VE LEARNED AND TO ALLOW STAFF TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER THE PLAN WORKING WITH THESE AGENTS HERE AND, UM, AND, AND LEARN FROM FROM WHAT'S HAPPENED PREVIOUSLY.
UH, AND JUST TRY TO DO BETTER.
I WAS GONNA ANSWER COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MAY SPEAK TO THAT FOR A MOMENT.
I THINK YOU GUYS BOTH PRESENTED VERY GOOD POINTS ON THAT.
AND YES, AS A SELLER OF YOUR HOME, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO LIST IT FOR ANY PRICE YOU WANTED.
BUT AS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING, AND I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T SEE NAMES,
SO ON THE APPRAISAL SIDE OF IT, ON THE ACQUISITION SIDE, WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR SIMILAR PROPERTIES, WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN SELLING FOR, AND THEN THAT IS WHAT THE ACQUISITION OFFER IS.
AND LIKE SEAN SAID EARLIER, IF SOMEONE IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, IF THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS MY HOME IS WORTH MORE BECAUSE I HAVE MARBLE CO COUNTERTOPS OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, THAT'S INFORMATION THAT THE LANDOWNERS ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE US DURING THE APPRAISAL PROCESS.
SO THE APPRAISERS CAN CONSIDER THAT AND THEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY LATER ON WITH THE NEGOTIATORS TO HAVE THAT DIALOGUE AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION FOR THOSE ITEMS. RIGHT.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE TABLE'S ALWAYS OPEN.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A ONE DEAL DONE WITH THESE RESIDENTS THAT NO, I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA DECIDE, YOU KNOW, PRICE AND, AND, AND DECIDE IF, IF SOMEBODY COUNTERS, THEN YOU'RE GONNA DECIDE THAT NOT US.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO THOSE, THOSE THINGS.
WE JUST PROVIDE YOU THE INFORMATION SO YOU CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CITY.
COUNCIL MEMBER FLORE SCALE THEN.
YEAH, JUST PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA SAID, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY TIME THERE'S A CHALLENGE, UH, NOT TO BE AFRAID TO BRING IT BACK TO US.
UM, BECAUSE I KNOW NOT EVERY CITY IS AS THOUGHTFUL TO THE RESIDENTS AS WE ARE.
UM, BUT WE KIND OF RECOGNIZE THE HISTORY OF KYLE AND, AND THAT BACKGROUND.
AND FOR THAT REASON, I THINK WE WOULD ALL MAYBE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN TO DOING THINGS THAT WE WOULD NOT NORMALLY DO, UM, JUST IN REGARDS TO, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS.
SO MY ASK WOULD BE THAT ANYTIME YOU
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FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S TOO BIG AND THAT WE WOULDN'T DO, THAT YOU PRESENTED IT TO US ANYWAYS AND ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN MAKE THAT DECISION COLLECTIVELY.I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND MORE ACCURATELY TO YOUR QUESTION.
IN THE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IT SAYS THAT, THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER CAN SEEK REIMBURSEMENT OF THE ELIGIBLE FEES THAT THEY PAY, UH, FROM THE PIT BONDS, BUT IT HAS TO BE ELIGIBLE.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER THE TESTS THAT GOVERN PID BONDS AND WHAT CAN BE PAID FROM THOSE, THE DEVELOPER CAN SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE JURORS.
AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK OUR BOND COUNCIL WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE BID, WHICH I, THAT, THAT, THAT GETS ADDRESSED.
UM, YOU GET MORE DETAIL AND MORE INFORMATION AS YOU GET CLOSER TO, UM, PREPARING THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND PUTTING ALL THOSE COSTS IN THERE.
AND SO AT THAT TIME, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MORE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY WHAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE PIT AND WHAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE TURS.
AND THOSE ARE ALL GOVERNED BY THE, THE STATUTES AND WHETHER THE IMPROVEMENT CONFERS A BENEFIT ON THE, THE LIMESTONE DEVELOP OR THE YEAH.
UM, MS. HENDRICKS, WHERE ARE WE AT ON THIS? BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNSEL, I THINK SOONER IS BETTER THAN LATER.
SO WE'LL PROCEED IN THE MORNING TO START DEVELOPING.
MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS, WE'VE ALREADY, UH, BEGAN, BEGAN A DRAFT OF THE INTRODUCTORY LETTER THAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER.
WE'LL ALSO SEND THE COUNCIL A TIMELINE ON WHEN EACH STEP IN THIS TIMELINE IS ANTICIPATED TO TAKE PLACE.
AND AS THOSE STEPS TAKE PLACE, WE WILL SEND NOTIFICATIONS TO YOU, KEEP YOU FULLY APPRISED OF, OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
WITH THAT, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION WITH THAT? OR IS THAT GONNA BE A CLEAR DIRECTIVE FORM? COUNSEL FROM THAT END, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE REQUEST.
IF, UH, WE COULD LOOK FOR A CONTINGENCY PLAN B IF IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE SIX HOMES, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S ONE BIG QUESTION THAT I GET FROM EVERYONE.
SO I HAVE THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.
IF WE MOVE THAT ROAD ANY FURTHER EAST, THEN IT WOULD BE IN, UH, SAN MARCOS JURISDICTION.
HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT WORKING WITH SAN MARCO? WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
I WANNA HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR MY, FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GETTING UPSET AND TELL 'EM THIS IS WHY THE ROAD IS HERE AND IT WASN'T BECAUSE THIS WAS THE EASIEST PATH, OR MAYBE IT'S COST EFFECTIVE, MAYBE IT'S A CITY RULE.
AND THAT'S, THIS AFFECTS THE TERRORS.
I WANNA HAVE THE, THE, THE FACTS WITH THAT.
WE'LL PROVIDE TO YOU A STAFF REPORT ON THE ISSUES INVOLVED MOVING THAT ROAD TO THE EAST.
CAN WE ALSO SEE IF WE CAN MOVE IT TO THE WEST? OR IS THAT NOT POSSIBLE? WE CAN MOVE IT WEST, MOVING IT MORE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, SO CAN, SO THE DIRECTOR WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE PROCESS.
GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE PROCESS TO NOTIFY THE RESIDENCE APPROPRIATELY.
BUT ALSO REACH OUT TO THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO WHERE THEY COULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH THAT TO WHERE IF WE HAVE TO GO WITH PLAN B WHERE WE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GO THROUGH THERE, UH, WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THEM AS WELL.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY THAT AS A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE RESIDENCE AT, UH, LIMESTONE AT THE QUAIL RIDGE AND ALSO TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS OF AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FOR THE ROAD THAT WOULD GO THROUGH SECOND.
THERE'S MOTION MADE BY MYSELF, MAYOR PRO TIM.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UM, THE, UH, AGENDA ITEM IS, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE STILL WITH THE AGENDA ORDERS, SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND BREWING MR. ZUNIGA, COUNCILMAN ZUNIGAS, ITEMS NUMBER 29 AND 30.
OH, I DIDN'T MEAN TO BRING THEM UP.
I SAID THIS OR NO, NO, HE WAS GONNA MOVE THEM AGENDA.
HE WAS GONNA MOVE HIS ITEMS ON TOP OF OUR PRESENTATION THAT WE ARE POSTPONING, SO IT WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
SO WE'RE GOING ON THE CONSENT.
CAN I ASK WHY IT'S BEING POSTPONED? BECAUSE WE HAVE A MEETING WITH THE TRAIL GROUP AND WITH PARTS IN ORDER TO DO A RECAP.
[VII. Consent Agenda]
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CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. UM, IS THERE ANYBODY BESIDES, UH, NUMBER 11 THAT WANTS TO AN ITEM TO BE PULLED? I ONLY ADD A QUESTION, SORRY.I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF THERE IS NONE.
TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 12 THROUGH 18.
THERE HAS BEEN, UM, A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDAS 12 THROUGH 18 BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, PARTIALLY WITH 16 BEING WITH 16 BEING POSTPONED.
AND I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT 17, 18.
SO DO YOU WANT TO PULL THOSE? NO, YOU WANNA JUST TO ASK THE CHIEF A QUESTION? OKAY.
SO BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN ITEMS NUMBER 17 AND 18.
HELLO, PLEASE, CHIEF? YES, SIR.
I'M JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
YEAH, MY ONLY QUESTION ABOUT 1718, UH, IT'S GREAT.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE'RE, UH, DONATING THE TASERS.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE COST OF A TASER? JUST SO THE RESIDENTS KNOW, UH, BRAND NEW, THEY CAN BE ABOUT $800.
THESE ARE CERTAINLY USED IN, IN THE OUTDATED MODEL.
BUT WHEN WE PURCHASE THEM BRAND NEW, THEY'RE ROUGHLY ABOUT $800 WHEN WE GET THE BUNDLE PACK.
SO THAT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM, THESE ARE THE, THE OLDER VERSION.
AND WE'VE UPGRADED TO NEWER, SAFER, NEWER, CORRECT.
THEY HAVE DIFFERENT FEATURES AND THEY UPGRADE 'EM AS PART OF OUR CONTRACT THAT YOU APPROVE IN THE BUDGET.
SO EVERY SO MANY YEARS THEY'RE GONNA REPLACE THOSE WITH THE NEWER MODEL, THE LATEST, GREATEST TECHNOLOGY.
AND THEN, UH, THAT'S, IT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE GET THE NEWER MODEL.
WHAT OTHER TYPES OF REQUESTS DO WE GET FROM OTHER, UH, CLOSER CITIES? UH, FROM OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPLIES? UH, GENERALLY WE MIGHT GET A REQUEST FOR MAYBE A, AN OUT OF COMMISSION LIGHT BAR THAT'S NO LONGER IN SERVICE ON ONE OF OUR VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE IN STORAGE.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST COMMON.
UM, AND I AM, YEAH, I DON'T EVEN REALLY RECALL ANY MORE THAN THAT.
MAYBE JUST SOME VEHICLE EQUIPMENT STUFF, UM, OF THINGS THAT ARE HONESTLY SURPLUS AND TRASH TO US.
SO I KNOW THAT MARTINDALE AND LOCKHART, THEY ARE VERY LIKE UNDERSTAFFED, RIGHT? UH, FEW.
THEY HAVE FEWER OFFICERS, DEFINITELY SMALLER COMMUNITIES.
UH, DEFINITELY SMALLER BUDGETS.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE WORK WITH BOTH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
UH, WE DON'T NECESSARILY WORK WITH THEM AS OFTEN BECAUSE OF MM-HMM.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE CITY OF LOCKHART AND THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKS WITH US, UH, VERY OFTEN AND VERY WELL, UH, IN SO MUCH AS THEY HAVE A GUN RANGE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY KIND TO OFFER TO US AT NO COST TO, UH, TRAIN OUR OFFICERS AT THEIR GUN RANGE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN, SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE NEED TO FIND ONE IN THE REGION TO USE MM-HMM.
AND, UH, SO THEY'VE BEEN GIVING US THAT KIND FAVOR FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
WE TYPICALLY, UH, TRY TO RETURN THE FAVOR AND SUPPLY FIREARMS INSTRUCTOR FOR, FOR THEIR NEEDS IF, WHEN, IF AND WHEN THAT COMES UP.
BUT THEY'VE CERTAINLY BEEN VERY GOOD TO US AS WELL.
AND, AND MARTINDALE IS CERTAINLY A FINE POLICE DEPARTMENT TOO, AND THEY NEED THESE FOR THEIR FUNDING.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
I THINK IT'S, I'M, I'M HUGE ON, UH, RECYCLE, REDUCE, REUSE, AND IN THIS CASE YOU GUYS ARE REUSING.
AND, UM, I GO OUT TO MARTINDALE QUITE A BIT AND IT'S A REALLY SWEET TOWN.
AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DECIDED TO REUSE THESE AND GIVE 'EM TO PEOPLE OR PLAYSTATIONS THAT NEED 'EM.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT THOUGHT.
OKAY, SO LET ME GO BACK AGAIN TO THE, UH, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.
CAUSE I DO SEE THAT 16 WAS ACTUALLY A POSTPONED ITEM.
SO, UM, IT WAS POSTPONED FOR, I GUESS THERE WAS STILL SOME, UH, DISCUSSION THAT MAY BE DONE.
SO, SO I GUESS WE HAVE THE MOTION STILL FOR ITEMS NUMBER 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, AND 18.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THOSE ITEMS? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[11. Approve a contract with SOUTHWEST MONUMENT & SIGN, San Antonio, Texas in the amount not to exceed $36,258.29 to fabricate and install the La Verde Dedication Element. Funding to fabricate and install the La Verde Dedication Element will be provided from available project contingency funds. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]
BRINGING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER C, CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER 11.WHO, WHO, WHO AM I GONNA DIRECT THESE TO? I'LL TAKE THEM.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, BRINGING THIS TO US.
UM, AS A DISCLOSURE, UH, MY HOPE WAS COUNCIL COULD HAVE COLLECTIVELY, UH, CHOSEN WHAT THIS MONUMENT LOOKED LIKE.
I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF, UM, THE LAYOUT OR THE DETAIL ON IT.
UM, AND SO I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED TO JUST LOOK AT IT AND, AND NOT HAVE A SAY SO.
AND, AND WHAT WAS GONNA BE THERE.
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UH, WHAT NAMES QUALIFIED FOR THIS DOCUMENT? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SEVERAL NAMES AND THERE'S TWO CURRENT STANDING, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS WHOSE NAMES ARE NOT ON THERE.UH, ANYBODY THAT WAS, UH, ON COUNCIL THAT ACTIVELY VOTED ON ANY PART OF THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE THEIR NAME ON THE, ON THE PLAQUE AS WELL AS STAFF.
UM, THERE, I'M GONNA BE HONEST, UM, THERE'S SOME NAMES THAT I DON'T THINK ARE APPROPRIATE TO PLACE ON THAT MONUMENT, AND I HOPE THAT'S DISCUSSED PRIOR TO ANY KIND OF FINALIZATION.
WE, WE CAN SEND DRAFTS FOR ALL THE DOCUMENTS TO COUNSEL FOR THEIR REVIEW, ANY, AND WE CAN HAVE, UM, AGENDA ITEMS TO DISCUSS THOSE, IF YOU WISH.
UM, AND IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN LOOK AT ANY OTHER MONUMENTS? UM, CUZ AGAIN, I'M NOT A FAN OF THE, OF THE WAY THIS ONE LOOKS, UM, AT ALL.
AND I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STORY WRITTEN ON THERE AND, UM, BEFORE THAT'S FINALIZED, I WOULD LIKE TO READ THAT STORY, UH, TO NO, KIND OF GET, UH, SOME KIND OF FEEDBACK FROM COUNSEL.
I'M NOT SURE WHO PROVIDED, UM, THAT INFORMATION, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE COLLECTIVELY AS COUNSEL AT LEAST REVIEWED.
YEAH, I'LL, ANYTHING INVOLVING TEXT WILL BE SENT TO COUNSEL IN ADVANCE.
IT CAN BE RE DISCUSSED AT A COUNCIL MEETING IF YOU WISH.
SO IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO SHARE MY SCREEN, I CAN ACTUALLY WALK YOU THROUGH THE, THE OTHER DESIGNS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY LIONHEART AND IN THE WAR GROUP THAT WAS REVIEWING THOSE, PICK THIS ONE HANDS DOWN OVER THOSE, BUT LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THAT UP HERE FOR YOU.
IN, UM, COUNCILMAN FLO SCALE, UM, AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF A LOT OF THESE, UH, PROJECTS, THESE LEGACY PROJECTS THEY USED TO CALL 'EM.
UM, THEY WERE ALL STILL DESIGNED BY A TASK FORCE BY THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THE TIME THAT CAME UP WITH THESE CONCEPTS AND CAME UP WITH THAT.
UM, SO THESE WERE, WERE VOTED IN, UM, AS FAR AS THE DESIGN CONCEPTS BEFORE YEARS, UM, BEFORE A LOT OF US WERE ON COUNCIL.
UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT THIS, THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE ANY KIND OF VERBIAGE OR ANY KIND OF MONUMENT, UH, SAYINGS OR ANY QUOTES THAT, UH, WE'D BE ABLE TO, AS THIS DIAS LOOK AT IT AND, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, IS, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT OR, WELL, EVEN A TASK FORCE HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND PRESENT TO US WHAT IT IS THEY WANT.
AND I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL SINCE THE, THE BEGINNING OF THIS PARK MM-HMM.
AND SO I THINK, UM, GOING ALONGSIDE WITH ITEMS LIKE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND I FELT LIKE THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF COUNSEL, UM, COLLECTIVE COUNSEL, UM, LIKE OPINIONS PROVIDED.
UM, WHILE WE STILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO HAVE US ALL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, AN OPINION IN WHAT'S GOING UP, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
SO IS THAT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, ON THIS, OR IS JUST THE CONCEPT ITSELF HERE? YOU'RE VOTING ON THE, THE CONTRACT TO, TO BUILD AND INSTALL THIS, THIS SETTLEMENT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE VERBIAGE AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S WRITTEN AS FAR AS, UH, THE LANGUAGE OR THE WORDS THEMSELVES, WHETHER IT'S A DIFFERENT PHRASE, ALL THAT IS STILL IN DRAFT FORM AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT AND WE REACH OUR FINAL DRAFT FORM, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO COUNSELS, IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE.
JERRY, IS IT, IS THE MONUMENT, THE IMAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING WITH THE, THE TWO, TWO STONES AT ANGLES TO EACH OTHER? IS THAT THE ONLY PIECE, OR IS IT MORE THAN JUST THIS PIECE? IT'S, UH, I JUST, UM, SEND THE FILE IF YOU CAN SHARE IT.
MY SHARE SCREEN'S NOT, NOT WORKING.
I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE PRICE IS JUST THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERS ME.
UH, BUT HOW WOULD YOU PREVENT KIDS FROM WALKING ON TOP OF IT IF IT'S THIS FLAT SURFACE WITH THE STORY? NICE STORY OF THE AQUIFER ON IT.
UH, CUZ MY KIDS LOVE JUMPING AROUND.
I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY A PICTURE IN THERE WITH SOMEBODY SITTING ON ONE OF THEM, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE, I'M TOLD THE ELEMENT, THE ELEMENT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, IF YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT WE DID THE RION IS CALLED, LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S CALLED RECHARGE MM-HMM.
AND IT'S BASED ON THE LIMESTONE THAT EXISTS IN THIS AREA.
THE WATER FLOWS THROUGH MM-HMM.
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AND ALSO RECHARGE.SO THAT'S WHAT REALLY SET THIS PARTICULAR ELEMENT APART.
I, I DO THINK IT'S PRETTY, AFTER I REVIEW ALL THE BACKUP MATERIAL, I LIKE THEM, THE MONUMENT.
UM, MAYBE KIDS NEED TO RECHARGE TOO.
WELL, YEAH, IF YOU FINE IF THEY STEP ON FOR ME TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE, THE TWO OTHER DESIGNS.
SO GO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING IF YOU DON'T MIND.
CAN I ASK IF THIS WENT THROUGH THE PARKS BOARD? IT DID NOT.
DID THE PARK DEPARTMENT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS? THEY DID NOT.
SO IF YOU WANNA JUST GO THROUGH SLIDE BY SLIDE REAL QUICK.
SO THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.
ONE'S CALLED, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THIS RIGHT, SO FORGIVE ME, AND A GAMMA GRAPH.
AND THERE'S ALREADY ONE OF THOSE AT HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK THAT HAS A FLAG THAT YOU WALK THROUGH AND IT CHANGES.
SO THE SECOND ONE IS CALLED THE FLIPPING STORY, WHICH YOU HAVE TO SEE TO UNDERSTAND.
AND THE SECOND ONE, AND THE THIRD ONE IS CALLED RECHARGE, WHICH IS ONE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
IF YOU GO ONE MORE, THIS KIND, THIS LANGUAGE KIND OF GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE PART OF THE PARK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REPRESENT IN THIS DESIGN ELEMENT.
IF YOU CAN GO FURTHER THAT, THAT TALKS ABOUT DEFAULT LINES THAT EXISTS.
NEXT ONE, THIS SHOWS, YOU CAN SEE THE THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS FOR THE THREE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS.
WITH THE RECHARGE BEING THE CONCEPT THREE, THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE, LOWER PART OF THE DIAGRAM OF THE PART YOU SEE THERE, IF YOU GO FURTHER, NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS, THIS IS THE THING YOU WALK BY AND IT CHANGES WHAT IT SAYS.
SO IF YOU JUST SLOWLY GO THROUGH THAT, YOU'LL SEE AS YOU WALK THROUGH IT HOW IT WOULD CHANGE AND TELL THE STORY OF THE PARK.
NEXT SLIDE, NEXT SLIDE, NEXT SLIDE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THAT WOULD GO.
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE, I BELIEVE THE ENTERTAINMENT PAVILION AND THE RESTAURANTS AND EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE THERE.
SO THAT'S OPTION NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER ONE, GO TO THE NEXT ONE.
THIS IS CALLED THE FLIPPING STORING NUMBER TWO IS KIND OF A MIXTURE OF NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, YOU CAN SEE IT'S A SIMILAR SETUP WITH THE LIMESTONE AND YOU CAN SIT ON IT AND IT HAS, UM, THE BOARDS THAT YOU CAN FLIP TO TELL DIFFERENT PARTS OF WHAT YOU WANT, DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STORY, THE, THE NAMES, ET CETERA.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED THE FLIPPING STORY.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW YOU CAN FLIP THE, THE ELEMENTS OF THE DESIGN TO SEE DIFFERENT PARTS OF, OF THE DESIGN ELEMENT NEXT.
AND THIS IS THE, THE RECHARGE.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU CAN SIT ON IT.
THERE'S A, A BUBBLER THAT'S AT THE TOP PART THAT GOES THROUGH THE, THE CHANNEL THAT'S BUILT IN THERE.
YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE STORY OF LAVERDE WILL BE ON THERE AND WHERE THE, THE DEDICATION PLAQUE WILL BE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT CHANNELS WHERE THE WATER WOULD COME THROUGH AND IT WOULD LAND IN THAT, UH, CATCHMENT UNDERNEATH IT AND, AND BE RECYCLED TO COME THROUGH.
IT'S A DIFFERENT ANGLE IF I'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD GO.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT WERE CONSIDERED BY THE WORKING GROUP.
IF, IF POSSIBLE, I WOULD LIKE THIS TO GO BACK TO THE PARKS AND THE PARKS BOARD.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE UTILIZE THEM EVERY CHANCE WE GET.
I'M NOT TRYING TO SLOW ANYTHING DOWN.
I JUST, UM, I, I REMEMBER COMPLAINTS PREVIOUS THAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS DIDN'T NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE THEY HAD BEEN HEARD.
AND SO FINDING OUT THAT THEY ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THIS.
I, I, I'M GONNA GUESS I'M KINDA CONFUSED.
I KNOW LAVERDE IS AN AURS AND I KNOW IT'S IN A VERY SPECIFIC AREA, BUT IT'S STILL A PARK JUST THE SAME.
AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS AND WE GET THAT ULTIMATELY FROM OUR BOARD.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD BE WILLING DO THE, WHEN'S OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? THANK YOU.
SOMEBODY HERE DOES MARIANA MAY 9TH.
IS THAT TOO LATE FOR EVERYBODY? I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS GOING TO SLOW DOWN THE OPENING OF LAE.
UH, WELL LA VERDE'S NOT EVEN SCHEDULED TILL JUNE, BUT, UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE WERE TO
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YEAH, THAT WOULD MAKE IT KIND OF TIGHT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WITH THIS PARK, IT'S DELAYED SO THAT, WE'LL, THAT'S MY ONLY WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS BECAUSE WE HAVE PUSHED, I KNOW IT'S NOT OUR FAULT.YOU KNOW, LAVERDE HAS BEEN PUSHED SO, SO MUCH.
IF WE WERE TO GO AND REDESIGN THIS AND IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY INCREASE THE PRICE.
AND THEN IT'S GOING TO BE PUSHING THE OPENING OF THE PARK ANOTHER TWO, THREE MONTHS.
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S REALLY GONNA BE OPENED TO BE HERE, HERE ANYWAYS, BUT, AND SO IS IT, I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR ME WOULD BE IS IT WORTH IT TO GET THE RESIDENTS FEEDBACK? BUT WOULD IT BE THE RESIDENTS FEEDBACK? WOULD IT BE THE BOARD? BUT THEN, THEN WHY DID WE PAY SOMEBODY TO DESIGN THIS? BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENT LEGIT QUESTION, BUT WHEN I SAY THE RESIDENTS, I TALK ABOUT OUR BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY'RE WHO'S ON THE, THE BOARD.
AND SO THAT'S THE CLOSEST THING WE'RE GONNA GET TO OUR RESIDENTS FEEDBACK.
UM, BUT TO NOT DO IT AT ALL, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA LIKE HOLD IT UP EITHER.
HAD I HAD, IF I HAD FULL FAITH THAT THIS WOULD BE DONE IN JUNE, I PROBABLY WOULD BE HESITANT TO HOLD OFF AND HAVE IT GO TO THE BOARD.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE BOARD COULD HAVE A, A MEETING ANYTIME SOONER? OKAY.
IF WE COULD HAVE IT SOONER, WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL TO GET SOME FEEDBACK? AGAIN? I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S, IT'S UP TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO BE INCLUSIVE AND THOUGHTFUL.
I I DO THINK THAT MOVING FORWARD FOR, FOR WHENEVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES AGAIN, IT WILL BE NICE FOR US TO HAVE, UM, FEEDBACK FOR US TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE WANNA SEE AS A MONUMENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, IF WE'RE GOOD, LET'S VOTE.
THIS IS, THIS IS TO APPROVE THE, UH, CONTRACT FOR THE SOUTHWEST.
ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT, UH, FOR, UH, WITH SOUTHWEST MONUMENT DESIGN, UH, AND THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $36,258 AND 29 CENTS TO FABRICATE AND INSTALL THE LEVER LAVERDE PARK DEDICATION ELEMENT.
THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I'VE, I'VE GOT ONE POINT TO BRING UP REGARDING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16, I BELIEVE.
THAT ONE WAS MARKED AS POSTPONED.
THE, THE ADVERTISEMENT, HE SAID THAT TODAY IT HAS NOT BEEN POSTED YET.
IT WILL BE AFTER APPROVAL OF THIS.
YEAH, I THINK LEON STATED THAT TODAY WHEN HE WAS GIVEN HIS PRESENTATION, HE SAID, I THOUGHT HE SAID THAT IT ALREADY WAS POSTED AND THAT'S WHY WE NOTE THAT WE KNEW THE FIRM DATE.
SO THIS IS GOING TO GET POSTED TOMORROW THEN IF WE VOTE ON IT NOW.
NOW LET'S GO AHEAD AND BRING UP ITEM NUMBER
[16.
Resetting the date for a public hearing to be held on June 20, 2023, as required under Chapter 395 of the Texas Local Government Code, to consider, discuss, and review the update to the water and wastewater land use assumptions, water and wastewater capital improvements plan, and imposition of updated water and wastewater impact fee amounts. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer
]16.UH, RESETTING THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE HELD ON JUNE THE 20TH, UH, REQUIRED UNDER THE CHAPTER 3 19 3 95 IN THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO CONSIDER, DISCUSS AND REVIEW THE UPDATES TO THE WATER WASTEWATER LAND ASSUMPTIONS WA WASTEWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, AND A POSITION UPDATED WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACTS AMOUNT.
WHAT? DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.
MY MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE AND SECOND BY COUNCIL PARLEY TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 16.
WE HAVE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE, ON THE MOTION? I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW SOME RESIDENTS WERE WONDERING ABOUT THIS, HOW EXACTLY IS THE IMPACT FEE GOING TO AFFECT THE REGULAR GENERAL HOUSEHOLD IN THE AREA? IS THERE GONNA BE A PERCENTAGE INCREASE THAT THEY WILL SEE ON THEIR BILL? SO THEY EXPECTED, THANK YOU LEON MAYOR PRO TE UH, COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA, CITY ENGINEER COUNCIL MEMBER.
THIS IS AN IMPACT FEE THAT'S ASSESSED WHENEVER SOMEBODY PURCHASES A NEW WATER METER OR CONNECTS TO OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
SO THE CURRENT RESIDENTS DON'T SEE ANY IMPACT ON THIS FEE.
UH, ALSO IT'S BASED ON THE PLATTING DATE THAT THE, THE DATE THAT THIS IS APPROVED, THAT DETERMINES WHEN WE CHARGE THOSE FEES.
SO IF YOU PLA YOUR PROPERTY AFTER JUNE THE 20TH, IT'S APPROVED BY COUNCIL ON THAT DATE, UH, YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED AND YOU WANNA BUY A FIVE EIGHTS METER, JUST A SMALL METER, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY THOSE NEW IMPACT FEES.
SO IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE, UH, THE CURRENT RESIDENCE TODAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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MOTION PASSES.[19. Consider and possible action to authorize the Interim City Manager to execute a contract with Ardurra Group, Inc. in an amount not to exceed $35,780.00 for professional services related to accepting HUD Entitlement Status and the CDBG Program. ~ Amber Schmeits, Assistant City Manager]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT, UH, ITEM IS GOING TO BE, UH, THE CONSIDERATE IMPOSSIBLE ACTION.
IT'S GONNA BE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 TO CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH ADORA GROUP IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $35,708 FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED ACCEPTING HUT ENTITLEMENT STATUS AND THE C D B G PROGRAM.
AND THIS IS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AM SCHMIDTZ.
AND COUNSEL AMBER SCHMID'S, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I BELIEVE I BROUGHT THIS TO YOU A FEW WEEKS BACK FOR AN R F P TO SELECT A FIRM TO BRING US THROUGH THE C D B G ENTITLEMENT, UH, PROCESS.
AND, UH, WE RECEIVED FIVE PROPOSALS AND, UH, STAFF SELECTED OUR DURA TO LEAD THEM THROUGH, UM, THIS PROCESS.
UM, WE HAVE MOLLY QUIRK WITH AURA HERE TONIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS, UH, YOU DO HAVE A PROPOSAL IN YOUR BACKUP DOCUMENTATION, UH, THAT SPEAKS TO THEIR OUTREACH PLAN, WHICH IMPRESSED US AND, UH, THEIR DETAIL TO ORGANIZATION.
SO I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WHAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.
I'VE SPOKEN TO AMBER ABOUT THIS, UM, PREVIOUSLY, AND I, IT STATES THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE PRICE.
UM, AND IT WAS DUE TO, PLEASE REMIND ME, IT WAS DUE TO THE ANALYSIS, UH, TO, UH, IMPEDIMENTS TO FAIR HOUSING.
AND, UH, WE HAD ASKED URA TO SEPARATE THAT OUT, TAKE THAT OUT SO IT COULD BE PAID FOR AT A LATER POINT IN TIME ONCE WE HAD THE CDBG FUNDING.
BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE.
AND IF COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS, IT WOULD BE FOR A REDUCED RATE OF IT WOULD $10,705 AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WHEREAS LATER IN THE PROCESS, IT'LL BE $14,000.
UM, COUNSEL COULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT IN THEIR MOTION TO GET, GET THAT DONE AS WELL BY ARRA.
SO, YEAH, MY THOUGHT BEHIND THAT IS IF IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE IN EITHER WAY, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO SAVE $3,700 BY DOING IT NOW, UM, I THINK OVERALL IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO JUST PAY THE 46 4 85, UM, AND JUST GET IT DONE.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND AGENDA ITEM 19, UM, AND ALLOW NOT TO EXCEED $46,485.
MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE TO INCREASE THE, UH, ROTOR AMOUNTS TO $46,850, CORRECT? UH, IT'S 46,046 $485 DOLLARS AND IT IS, UH, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YES.
SO JUST SO THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THIS, UH, THIS, UH, PROPOSAL THROUGH THE HUD ENTITLEMENT STATUS, WE ARE RECEIVING TWO 50 OR, UH, WE'RE RECEIVING SOME FUNDS FROM SOME FUNDS, THIS PROGRAM? YES, SIR.
WE DON'T EXPECT THAT TO INCREASE MUCH MM-HMM.
AND SO THIS 46 WILL BE REPAID OUT OF THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
JUST REAL BRIEFLY, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THE CONTRACT WOULD BE FOR, AND I DEALT, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU LAST YEAR, UH, MS. KIRK FOR THE, UH, WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER INGLESBY ABOUT THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
I BELIEVE YOU WERE A PART OF THAT GROUP AND YOU WERE VERY, VERY HELPFUL WITH THAT.
AND SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU ON THAT.
AND HOW WOULD THIS, UH, IMPACT STUDY THIS, THIS CONTRACT, HELP HELP WITH OUR RESIDENTS? JUST TO GIVE SOMEBODY AN IDEA WHAT THIS WOULD BE, YOU WANNA UP YOUR MOM.
SO THIS, THIS WILL INITIALLY TAKE IN, UM, IT WILL GATHER PUBLIC INPUT AND IT WILL SPEAK TO SOME OF THE WEAKNESSES THAT WE HAVE SURROUNDING HOUSING AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, ACCESS TO COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
IT WILL IDENTIFY ALL OF THOSE NEEDS AND IT WILL PUT IT INTO A PLAN FOR THE CITY AND THEN AS THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, SO DESIRES WILL BEGIN EXECUTING ON THE STRATEGIES IDENTIFIED IN THAT PLAN AND AS MONEY'S AVAILABLE.
SO HOW WOULD, WOULD ANY KIND OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS BE PART OF THAT OR INCLUDED IN THIS PROCESS? OR IS THAT, THAT, THAT'S HOW I'M, I WAS
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FAMILIAR WITH YOU ON THAT END.JUST WANTED TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT YOUR GROUP WOULD BE KIND OF HELPING OUT WITH MOLLY CLARK, UH, WITH OUR JUROR FOR THE RECORD.
UM, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO, TO WORK WITH YOU AND YES, WE, WE ARE, UM, THE, THE GROUP THAT'S HELPING, UM, ADMINISTER ALL THE ARPA FUNDS IN HAYES COUNTY.
SO, UM, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT, UM, AND HAVE HAD, UM, AND WE ALSO ARE DO, WE ALSO DID THE, UM, EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS WILL DO IS, UM, IMPACT THE RESIDENTS, UM, AND OUTLINE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.
THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN AS YOU, UM, LOOK AT THE, THE PLAN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
AND, UM, IT, IT COULD BE HOUSING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT REALLY DOES LAY OUT THE APPLICATION, UM, AND, AND LAY OUT HOW YOU WILL FUND THINGS LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD.
WAIT, WE GOTTA MAKE A NEW MOTION.
THAT WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A NEW MOTION.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 19 SECOND.
WITH THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? THOSE A FAVOR SAY AYE.
[20. Consider and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City of Kyle City Council Authorizing and Directing the Interim City Manager to Execute an Agreement with the Texas Department of Transportation for the Operation and Maintenance of Traffic Signals at Certain Freeway Locations. ~ Amber Schmeits, Assistant City Manager]
[21. Consider and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City of Kyle City Council Authorizing and Directing the Interim City Manager to Execute an Agreement with the Texas Department of Transportation for the Operation and Maintenance of Traffic Signals at Certain Non-Freeway Locations. ~ Amber Schmeits, Assistant City Manager]
RIGHT.NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, THE CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE INTERN CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT CERTAIN FREEWAY LOCATIONS.
THIS IS ALSO YOUR AGENDA ITEM, MAYOR PRO TIM AND COUNSEL AMBER SCHMITZ.
AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, I, I GUESS A SIGN THAT WE'RE GROWING UP.
WE HAVE REACHED 50,000 POPULATION AND SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME IS WHEN TEXDOT, UM, STOPS, ASKS THAT THE CITIES TAKE OVER THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE SIGNALS.
AND SO EVERYTHING HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
UH, I BELIEVE SCOTT EGGBERT MIGHT BE ON THE LINE IN CASE Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
HE'S THE ONE WHO WILL BE, UM, ADMINISTERING THIS PROGRAM.
UH, THEY TEXT DOT, UH, WENT THROUGH AND THEY BROUGHT ALL OF THEIR SIGNALS UP TO SPEED.
UH, OUR STREET DEPARTMENT WENT OUT WITH THEM AND DID A PUNCH LIST, MADE SURE THEY'RE ALL UP TO SPEED.
SO THEY'RE ALL OPERATING AT, AT, UH, MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE HAVE A CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE SIGNAL WORK, UH, WITH AUSTIN TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND THERE IS MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO COMPLETE THE REST OF THIS YEAR.
AND WE WILL BE ASKING PROBABLY FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GOOD FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND THIS FIRST ASK IS TO, UH, TAKE OVER O AND M FOR THE THREE, UH, FREEWAY LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, SO THIS WILL TAKE, CUZ I REMEMBER TALKING TO SOMEBODY ON TECHSTAR AND THEY DID, YOU KNOW, MENTION TO ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GUYS HIT 50,000 RESIDENTS, WE AS A CITY, WHAT HAVE MAINTAINED THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
YOU SAY THAT THERE IS ONLY THREE THAT WE HA MAINTAIN JUST THREE ON THE FREEWAY, SO THREE ON I 35.
AND THEN, THEN THE NEXT, UM, AGENDA ITEM ARE THE 23 ON THE
UH, AND THEN 23 ON THE REST OF THE TECH DOT SYSTEM THAT WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE OVER
SO HOW MUCH WILL IT BE FOR US TO GET IN CONTRACT WITH THEM? IS THIS LIKE AN ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT WE WILL BE GETTING INTO? WELL, WE, WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS RIGHT NOW SINCE THE SIGNALS ARE OPERATING, YOU KNOW, SO WELL WE DON'T, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL HAVE MUCH O AND M.
UM, IT'LL BE A BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE.
WE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ISSUING MAYBE SOME RFPS LATER OR AN I D I Q, BUT AT THIS POINT WE HAVE AUSTIN TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT WE THINK CAN DO, CAN DO THE WORK.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ABOUT $25,000 LEFT IN THE BUDGET FOR WHICH IS, UH, 40% REMAINING OF THE, THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND, UH, WE'LL UP THAT BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
HOPEFULLY WE WON'T RUN INTO MANY O AND M PROBLEMS. UM, BUT THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA LEARN AS WE GO.
I WOULD LIKE TO, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, IN A YEAR FROM NOW WE CAN TAKE A LOOK ON HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING THEM AND IF IT'S MORE FEASIBLE TO DO LIKE A TECHNICIAN, ENGINEERING SPECIALIST TO TAKE CARE OF THIS SIGNALS.
UM, I'M BORDERLINE PRETTY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL THESE LIGHTS CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE
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THE RESIDENTS HAVE KIND OF HAD CONCERNS OVER IN POST OAK ABOUT HOW THAT LIGHT CHANGES.AND SO, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EXCITEMENT OF BEING ABLE TO CONTROL OUR OWN STUFF.
UM, MY ASK TO STAFF AND MAYBE IF WE CAN ALL COLLECTIVELY AGREE DURING THE BUDGET SEASON WOULD BE TO MAYBE HIRE SOMEBODY INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY CONTRACTING OUT, HIRE SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE ON IT AND TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL IT SO THAT WAY IN THE EVENT WE NEED SOMEBODY RIGHT AWAY THERE THERE'S NOT A DELAY.
AND SO, UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, UH, 20.
UH, WE CAN GO IN IF WE WANT TO COMBINE, CAN WE COMBINE THOSE TWO? YES.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? UH, AGENT 20 AND 21 SECOND.
FORREST KALE, WOULD YOU RECORD WITH THAT? OKAY.
WHAT IS BEING RECORDED ON THOSE CAMERAS? UM, TRAFFIC OR IS IT, UH, WHO'S COLLECTING THE DATA, UM, ON THOSE CAMERAS BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL OF THEM, UM, OVER BY THE KYLE CROSSING.
SO IS IT REPORTED BACK TO LIKE TRAFFIC WEBPAGES OR, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT, WHAT'S VIA WATCHED? GOOD QUESTION, SCOTT, ARE YOU ON THE LINE AND ABLE TO ANSWER? THANK YOU.
UH, MAYOR PROTO COUNSEL, THIS IS SCOTT EDWARD, THE STREET DEPARTMENT.
UH, THOSE CAMERAS ARE ACTUALLY JUST SENSORS.
THEY DRAW GRIDS ON THE PAVEMENT.
BASICALLY, WHENEVER A CAR ENTERS THAT GRID, IT TELLS A SIGNAL THAT SOMEBODY'S THERE.
NOW THERE ARE SOME CAMERAS THAT TEXT DOT HAS IN PLACE ON THE INTERSTATE TO MONITOR TRAFFIC TO.
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE MESSAGE BOARDS TEXT.AS UP SAYING 30 MINUTES TO FROM HERE TO HERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT THE CAM, THE CAMERAS YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SIGNALS OR BASICALLY SENSORS TO TRIP THE LIGHT AND TELL THE SIGNAL THAT SOMEBODY IS THERE AT THE INTERSECTION, LIKE A PERSON WALKING OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST VEHICLES THERE TRIPPING THE LINE A VEHICLE.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.
I, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE, UH, VISUAL CAMERAS TO SHOW HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS, UM, AT SIX O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
LOOK, THAT'S A REASON WHY I ALWAYS GO UP TO THAT WHITE LINE BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY IS NOT UP THERE, IT, IT TAKES FOREVER FOR THE LIGHT TO CHANGE.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO SPREAD THE WORD
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, SO FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20 FOR THE CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE, UH, RESOLUTION FOR, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT CERTAIN FREEWAYS AND ON 21 CERTAIN NON FREEWAY LOCATIONS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? MM-HMM.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ALONG.
[22.
(First Reading) An ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, adopting comprehensive plan amendment to amend approximately 26 acres of “Farm Landscape” to ‘Regional Node’ for certain parcels south of the intersection of SH-21 and E FM 150, amend approximately 3 acres to ‘New Settlement District’ from ‘Regional Node’ & amend approximately 18.9 acres from ‘New Settlement District’ to ‘Regional Node’. This area outlined in the map includes 14.5 acres of existing ‘Regional Node’ with a total approximate area of 60 acres; and providing for related matters. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval.
- Public Hearing
AMEND APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES TO NEW SETTLEMENT DISTRICT FROM REGIONAL NODE AND AMEND APPROXIMATELY 1918 0.9 ACRES FROM NEW SETTLEMENT DISTRICT TO REGIONAL NODE.
THIS AREA OUTLINED IN THE MAP INCLUDES 14.5 ACRES OF EXISTING REGIONAL NODE WITH A TOTAL APPROXIMATELY OF 60 ACRES PROVIDED FOR RELATED MATTERS.
SO THIS AGENDA ITEM IS MR. WILKINS PLANNING AND DIRECTING AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED 5 0 4 APPROVAL.
THIS IS A, UH, THIS HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? OKAY.
DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST? YES.
AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK SEEING THAT NOBODY IS HERE, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD, UM, THIS COMPLAN AMENDMENT, IT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF Y'ALL A FEW MONTHS BACK IN LATE JANUARY WHEN THERE WAS A ZONING REQUEST THAT CAME FORWARD, UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING, UH, JUST ADJACENT TO AND SOUTH OF THE EXISTING GAS STATION.
UM, AND PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, OR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION
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OF THE DISCUSSION WAS BETWEEN THAT Y'ALL HAD, AND ALSO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MIRRORED WAS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WAS NOT INTENSE ENOUGH FROM A RETAIL PERSPECTIVE.AND THE ONLY REASON THE STAFF COULD SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND NOT SOMETHING MORE LIKE RETAIL SERVICES, WHICH IS GENERAL HOW A COMMERCIAL WAS BECAUSE THE COMP PLAN DID NOT SUPPORT IT AT THAT TIME.
SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO Y'ALL BECAUSE Y'ALL, UM, REQUESTED THAT IT BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO Y'ALL.
AND JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION OF WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT THERE, THE THICK BLACK BOUNDARY IS THE TOTAL PROPOSED REGIONAL NODE.
UH, THE ONE THAT HAS THE LITTLE DOTS ON IT IS THE EXISTING REGIONAL NODE.
SO EVERYTHING NORTH OF ONE 50 THERE AS IT'S COMING INTO 21, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY TURNING IT AND EXPANDING IT TO MATCH THE EXISTING RETAIL SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 30 ACRES RIGHT THERE.
AND THEN EVERYTHING'S SOUTH OF ONE 50.
UM, WE'RE HAVING IT MATCH EXISTING BOUNDARY LINES FOR PROPERTIES.
AND ALSO, UM, THERE'S A STREAM THAT COMES INTO THE SOUTH.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
UM, ACCORDINGLY, JUST FROM A LOGICAL PERSPECTIVE.
AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS, ANY MOTIONS? COUNCIL, MAYOR, FLOOR SCALE.
I JUST WANNA SAY I ASKED A MILLION QUESTIONS VIA EMAIL BEFORE ALL THIS.
AND SO, UM, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EVEN IF WE CHANGE THIS, UM, THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S DIFFERENT, UM, IS IT ZONES? NO.
REZONES? I CAN REDISTRICTS, YES, MA'AM.
UM, THAT ULTIMATELY THOSE HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR, UM, APPROVAL.
AND BECAUSE OF THEMM A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE.
BUT IT MAKES ME REALLY NERVOUS KNOWING THAT THERE'S, UM, A TON OF DIFFERENT, UH, HOMES AND APARTMENTS THAT CAN GO IN THIS AREA, UH, IF FUTURE COUNCIL CHOOSES.
AND, AND TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UM, THIS IS, THIS SETS THE FOUNDATION FOR WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO THERE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE REGIONAL NOTES YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
THE BIGGEST AND MOST PREVALENT ITEM IN THERE IS, UH, RETAIL SERVICES, WHICH IS YOUR GENERAL HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.
SO BIG BOX SHOPPING CENTER, KIND OF, UH, RESTAURANTS AROUND THE PERIMETER, THAT KIND OF IDEA.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS FOR, UH, MULTI-FAMILY VERTICAL MIXED USE AS WELL.
UM, BUT YES, AS WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE REGIONAL NODE, IF A PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO COME FORWARD TO REA ON THEIR PROPERTY TO TAKE BETTER ADVANTAGE OF THE MARKET AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, THEY WOULD COME TO STAFF AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH US FIRST, AND WE WOULD SAY, EH, WE'RE NOT SURE, OR YES OR NO, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND IF THEY DECIDE TO APPLY, WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT, THEN IT'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UH, GO AND GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, CITY COUNCIL, Y'ALL HAVE TO, UH, WE'LL MAKE YOUR DECISION WHETHER Y'ALL SEE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? GO AHEAD, ZUNIGA.
WILL, I, I DID READ THE EMAILS AND I REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION ON THE REGIONAL NODE.
UM, SO WHAT HAVE, HAVE YOU BEEN NOTIFIED OF ANY INTEREST IN ANY, ANY BUSINESSES COMING, UM, ON THIS SITE OFF OF THE, THE 30 PLUS ACRES TO THE NORTH? YES.
UM, THERE IS A, THERE'S AN ENTITY, UH, THAT IS LOOKING AT THAT, AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WITH TECH STOCK RIGHT NOW.
UH, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, UH, INITIALLY, UH, ASKED TO BE ANNEXED AND, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDED TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS CORNER.
AND THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE ON THEIR THIRD STEP RIGHT NOW.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW PUBLIC IT IS, SO I, I'M A LITTLE BIT HESITANT TO SAY THE NAME, BUT, UM, I SUSPECT THE, IT'LL, IT'LL ADD A LOT OF, UH, GOOD STUFF TO THAT, THAT SECTION OF THE CITY.
UM, IN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I REMEMBER, UH, WE, WE MADE A, UH, WHAT WE PROPOSED MAYBE A SOMETHING TO A DEVELOPER WITH TOWN HOMES AND RETAIL.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD WORK IN HERE TOO? LIKE A PUT SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR, UM, GENERALLY, UM, AS, AS WE UNDERSTAND IT AS STAFF, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT YALA CITY COUNCIL, OUR, OUR BIG FANS OF PUS AND THE ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN EASIER WAY TO GET AROUND SOME ZONING.
IT, IT'S AN EASIER WAY MM-HMM.
FROM A CONCEPT PLAN, FROM TIGHTENING RESTRICTIONS FROM ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, AS LONG AS IT'S A MUTUAL AGREEMENT AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, AS Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST, THE, UH, CTC RESIDENTIAL, THE WOODMERE PARK, UH, SIMILAR PROJECTS LIKE THAT MM-HMM.
UM, SO YEAH, WELL, WE, AS PROJECTS COME ALONG, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY START
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COORDINATING WITH THOSE.BUT IF THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR ZONING, THEN THEY HAVE THEIR ENTITLEMENTS, SO THEN THEY JUST NEED TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO THE CODE.
JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION? YES, SIR.
ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS OR MOTIONS? I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.
SECOND, BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, HAW.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS MOTION? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
OUT OF CURIOSITY, WILL THIS COME BACK FOR A SECOND? READING? OKAY, THANK YOU.
YEAH, I THINK THIS IS, THIS, THIS WAS JUST THE FIRST READING ON THAT.
[23. Authorize award and execution of a purchase order to TEXAS MATERIALS GROUP, INC., Cedar Park, Texas, lowest and most responsible bidder, in an amount not to exceed $1,044,280.70 which includes a five (5) percent contingency for spot repairs on Kohlers Crossing from FM 2770 to IH35 Southbound Frontage Road. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
TO AUTHORIZE, UH, AN AWARD, AN EXECUTION OF PURCHASE ORDER TO TEXAS MATERIAL GROUPS, CEDAR PARK, TEXAS, LOWEST AND MOST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 1 MILLION HUNDRED 44,280 THOU DAY DOLLARS AND 70 CENTS, WHICH INCLUDES A 5% CONTINGENCY SPOT FOR REPAIRS ON KOHLERS CROSSING FM 2 70, 70, AND I 35 SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD.THIS ITEM IS, UH, CITY ENGINEER LEON BARBARA, MAYOR PROAM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS LEON BARBARA, CITY ENGINEER, UH, MAYOR PROAM COUNSEL, UH, BACK ON JULY OF UH, 22, I BROUGHT AN ITEM TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL.
IT WAS, UH, REQUESTING MONEY FOR A FIRM, UH, BY THE NAME OF AIOS TO DO SOME FORENSIC TESTING ON, UH, KOHLERS FROM, UH, SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD ALL THE WAY TO 27 70.
UM, I'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, THINGS TO LOOK FOR AS YOU DRIVE OUR ROADS.
SO, UH, MAYBE I'LL TRAIN YOU TO DO SOME WORK FOR US.
BUT ANYWAY, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO, AS I WAS DRIVING DOWN KOHLER'S AFTER RAIN, I NOTICED SOME WHITE POWDER ON SECTIONS OF KOHLER'S CROSSING.
AND THAT, UH, BOTHERED ME CUZ THAT'S A FOUR-LANE ROADWAY.
IT'S A, IT WAS BUILT AROUND 2011 AT BEST I CAN REMEMBER.
SO WE'D DONE THE MICRO SERVICING ON IT ABOUT, UH, THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
BUT I NOTICED THAT WHITE POWDER AND THAT WHITE POWDER COMES FROM THE FINES THAT ARE IN THE BASE MATERIAL THAT'S UNDERNEATH IT.
AS YOU HAVE, TYPICALLY, OUR ROADS HAVE ABOUT TWO TO THREE INCHES OF MIX ON THEM.
AND AS THEY START TO FAIL, THEY START CRACKING AND THEY START PUMPING.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT BRINGS THAT FINE MATERIAL FROM THE BASE UP TO THE SURFACE.
SO IF YOU DRIVE SOME OF A ROWS AFTER RAIN, YOU START NOTICING THAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTE THAT IT'S GETTING READY TO FAIL.
SO WHEN IT HAPPENS AFTER THAT, YOU GET POTHOLES AND FAILURES.
AND THAT, AGAIN, THAT REALLY BOTHERED ME.
CAUSE I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE PLANS FOR THE, UH, THAT PRO PROJECT.
THEY HAD ABOUT SEVEN INCHES OF, UH, THEY TREATED THE SUBGRADE AND THEN THEY HAD SEVEN INCHES OF, OF GRAVEL OR BASE, AND THEN THEY HAD SIX INCHES OF HOT MIX.
SO THINK ABOUT IT, THAT POWDER WAS COMING UP THROUGH SIX INCHES OF HOT MIX.
AND THAT'S WHEN I REALLY GOT CONCERNED.
I SAID, OH MY GOODNESS, WE'RE LOSING THIS ROAD.
AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, TYPICALLY IT'S A 20 YEAR DESIGN FOR THESE ROADS, BUT YOU DON'T JUST SAY, LEAVE IT THERE FOR 20 YEARS.
YOU HAVE TO DO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.
IT'S SAME THING AS CHANGING THE OIL IN YOUR VEHICLE.
THE LAST FOR LONG TIME, AS LONG YOU DO THE MAINTENANCE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THAT SECTION OF KOHLER'S, UH, CROSSING ALL THE WAY FROM 27 70 TO, UH, THE SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD.
ANYWAY, I, ON, ON THE, UM, THEY DID THE STUDY FOR US.
THEY USED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES.
THEY USED WHAT'S CALLED A FALLING WEIGHT DEFLECTOMETER.
THEY USED GROUND PENETRATING RADAR, AND THEY, THEY, UM, THEY HAD A SURGICAL LOOK AT THE ROAD.
WE COULD HAVE JUST SAID, LOOK, WHY DON'T WE JUST GO THROUGH THERE, TAKE OUT THREE INCHES OF IT AND PUT IT ALL BACK IN AND WE'RE GOOD.
BUT THEN I KNEW THERE WERE AREAS THAT WERE MORE SEVERELY, UH, HAD MORE SEVERE PROBLEMS THAN THE REST OF THE SECTION.
WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS PROJECT IS WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN THREE PHASES, COUNSEL.
THE FIRST PHASE IS WHAT WE CALL SPOT REPAIRS.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUT SOME SMALLER AREAS, SOME VERY LARGE AREAS, AND MOST OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE, UH, I'M WORRIED ABOUT, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, RIGHT THERE BY CO CROSSING AND COLES CROSSING, GU, OUR TRUCKS COMING FROM, FROM THAT FACILITY.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
AND THAT'S, IN MY OPINION, THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING OUR ROAD TO START, UH, SOFTENING UP.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO, THE FIRST PHASE IS GONNA BE DOING THE SPOT REPAIRS.
IN THE MEANTIME, PAC PACIFIC HAS ALSO ASKED US TO LOOK AT SOME REPAIRS THERE AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS CLOSER TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO WORK WITH THEM AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA REPAIR IN THERE AS, UH, AS PART OF THE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT SECTION.
THERE WILL BE ROAD CLOSURES, UH, HOPEFULLY NO MORE THAN FOUR DAYS, BUT THINGS HAPPEN.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO KEEP THAT TO A MINIMUM.
THERE WILL BE LANE CLOSURES IN THERE.
SO, UH, WE'RE HOPING TO GET THIS CONTRACT OUT, UH, HOPEFULLY STARTING SOME TIME IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND GET THE CONTRACTOR STARTED ON THAT PROJECT.
FIRST PHASE IS THE SPOT REPAIRS, AS I MENTIONED.
THE SECOND PHASE WILL BE WHAT WE CALL CRACK CEILING CRACK CEILING'S.
BEST DONE DURING THE WINTER WITH THE CRACKS OF THE WIDEST.
SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO DO THE CRACK CEILING, UH, IN THE WINTER, UH, THIS COMING YEAR AFTER THAT, WE, WE TYPICALLY HAVE A ONE YEAR WARRANTY ON THESE REPAIRS FOR, SO WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL THE ONE YEAR'S UP, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO OTHER, THAT EVERYTHING'S HELD UP.
AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK EITHER WITH A CHIP SEAL OR WE'LL DO ANOTHER OVERLAY.
WE'LL DO SOMETHING ELSE TO THE ROADS.
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UH, PHASED PROJECT AND IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME.IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE LOOKING AT CROMWELL BENDS AND SANDERS FOR POSSIBLE ROUNDABOUTS, POSSIBLE TRAFFIC INTERSECTIONS.
SO WE HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT THAT MIGHT IMPACT WHAT WE DO IN MY THIRD PHASE.
AND TO MAKE IT MORE EXCITING, UH, FOR ENGINEERS ANYWAY.
UH, WE DO HAVE A WATER LINE THAT WE NEED TO RUN DOWN KOHLER'S CROSSING, UH, FROM 27 70 AT, UH, SIX AT, UH, CO CROSSING, WE HAVE TO PUT A NEW 12 INCH TRANS, A 24 INCH TRANSMISSION LINE TO THE WELL SITE NUMBER FOUR THERE AT, UH, THE, UH, AT THE WELL SITE THAT WE HAVE THERE ON, UH, KOHLERS CROSSING.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE THAT PROJECT THAT MAY GO DOWN THE CENTER OF THE ROAD THAT MAY GO DOWN ONE OF THE LANES.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO WATCH ALL THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DONE IN THERE BEFORE WE GET TO OUR THIRD PHASE.
THE REASON I WOULD LIKE TO DO THE THIRD PHASE IS JUST TO MAKE IT ALL ONE UNIFORM ROAD AGAIN, SO IT'S OVERLAY OVER THE WHOLE THING, OR MICROSERVICE OR WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO AT THAT POINT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A, ABOUT A TWO TO THREE YEAR PROJECT.
YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? CUSTOMER FLO SCALE? YEAH, I JUST, UM, WANNA KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING FOR THIS IS COMING FROM.
ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I, I TALKED TO PERVEZ AND I SAID, PERVEZ, I NEED ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS.
I SAID, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SMALL, HOW MUCH IT'S, IT'S GONNA COST.
WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR STUDY YET.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DAMAGE WE'VE GOT OUT THERE, BUT WE NEED, AND I JUST GUESSTIMATED THAT NUMBER AND, UH, PERVEZ DID PUT THAT ASIDE IN THE BUDGET FOR US TO DO THAT WORK.
SO IS THAT GENERAL FUND CIP P SPIN STUFF OUT? I HAVE IDEAS.
MAYOR PROTIME COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD, I'M VEMO CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT IS COMING FROM STREET REHAB FUND AND THE SOURCE OF FUNDING IS FROM ADJACENT LANE MILE FEES.
THAT'S WHERE WE PUT ALL THE M FEES THAT WE COLLECT AND THEY'RE ACCUMULATED IN THAT FUND.
WHEN PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE COMES UP FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, THAT'S WHEN WE BUDGET THOSE FUNDS.
AND, UM, HOW MUCH IS CURRENTLY IN THAT FUND? UH, APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION.
SO AFTERWARDS IT SHOULD BE LIKE ALL OVER 1 MILLION.
WELL, WE'RE ALSO COLLECTING FEES.
UH, WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23 SECOND.
MOTIONS BEEN MADE FOR APPROVING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE, ON THE MOTION ITSELF? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
HEY, COUNCILMAN, UH, PAR PARSLEY, UM, ABOUT HOW MUCH DO WE, WILL WE KNOW DURING THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON ABOUT HOW MUCH ARE WE COLLECTING IN THIS FEES? SO WE KNOW HOW MUCH GOES BACK TO DEBT BUCKET? YES, MA'AM.
UH, DURING THE BUDGET, WE WILL DISCUSS EACH FUND, WHAT THE BEGINNING FUND BALANCE IS, HOW MUCH WE ARE PROJECTING FOR, UH, REVENUES TO COME IN, AND ALSO DISCUSS WITH YOU WHAT THE, UH, ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES ARE FOR EACH FUND.
UH, LEON, SO YOU MENTIONED IN THREE PHASES IT WILL BE COMPLETED.
DOES THAT COINCIDE WITH THE SEGMENTS OR, AND ALSO DID, YOU SAID THERE'LL BE ROAD CLOSURES.
IS THERE AN OPTION OF DOING ONE LANE AT A TIME SO THAT YOU DON'T CLOSE IT DOWN, UM, THE ENTIRE ROAD? OR ARE WE ONLY CLOSING DOWN IN DURING THE PHASES? LIKE I'M COMING, HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING? UH, WELL, ONE, ONE QUESTION IS, HOW MANY MILES IS THIS THAT YOU'RE DOING? UH, IT'S BROKEN UP INTO SECTIONS.
I DIDN'T ADD UP THE TOTAL SECTIONS, BUT IT'S, UH, IT VARIES FROM 200 FOOT SECTIONS TO UP TO ALMOST 3000 FEET IN SECTIONS.
THE WORST PART OF IT IS AT THAT INTERSECTION AT CO CROSSING MM-HMM.
BUT IT'S ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILES, I BELIEVE FROM 27 70 TO THE, UM, FRONTAGE DROVE.
BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THE WHOLE THING.
WE'RE JUST DOING THOSE SPOTS RIGHT NOW.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER, WE WILL HAVE LANE CLOSURES.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO KEEP LANE CLOSURES, BUT, UH, THE RAILROAD WANTS US TO DO SOME, UH, WORK AT THEIR CROSSING.
THEY WANT TO TAKE OUT ABOUT TWO FEET OF THE CONCRETE THAT'S THERE AND COME BACK IN WITH JUST REGULAR BASE AND ASPHALT.
AND THAT MEANS WE'LL HAVE TO CLOSE IT FOR, FOR THEM TO DO THEIR WORK IN THERE CUZ THEY WILL BE DOING THE WORK FOR THAT, THAT PIECE OF IT.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE, THE COORDINATION'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT WITH THEM.
SO THAT'S, UH, GONNA BE A CHALLENGE FOR US TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.
BUT WE MAY HAVE TO CLOSE IT AND SET UP A DETOUR ROUTE.
SO WE STILL GOT A GOOD LIFETIME OUT OF THIS ROAD, RIGHT? 2011? YES.
WE'RE TRYING WEAR AND TEAR, WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR 20 YEARS BACK, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO, UH, OUR MAINTENANCE ON IT ON THE ROAD.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE WERE DOING WITH IT.
AND MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, YEAH, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CI PROJECT VERSUS GOING WITH THESE CONTRACTORS, UH, ON THIS END, BUT I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION
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OF WORKING TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS AND, AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, WE MAY BE LOOKING AT THIS HIGH DOLLAR VALUE RIGHT HERE, THIS, THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT, UH, AGAIN, GUYS, WE, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES ON THESE ROADS EVERY SINGLE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE, WE KEEP UP WITH THE MAINTENANCE ON IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE GONNA START DESIGNING AND BUILDING THESE NEW ROADS.THESE ARE GONNA BE COSTS THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, NEEDING FROM THE CITY, BUT IT, IT'S NECESSARY TO PREVENT ANY KIND OF FAILURES, ANY KIND OF POTHOLES TO WHERE YOU'VE GOTTA GO BACK AGAIN AND RECONSTRUCT IT LIKE WE HAVE THESE PROBLEMS WITH THESE OLDER ROADS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
FORBID, UH, FORBID
[24. (First Reading) An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, Establishing the Community Policing Commission Pursuant to Section 7.06(B) of the City Charter; Providing for Qualifications and Duties of the Commission; and Providing for Related Matters. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]
ITEM UP ON THE AGENDA ITEM IS NUMBER 24.THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE TO ESTABLISH THE COMMUNITY POLICE AND COMMISSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 7.06 B AND THE CITY CHARTER PROVIDING FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION AND PROVIDING RELATED MANNERS.
COUNSEL, PAGE SIGN, CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.
UH, THE, THERE IS A DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING BASED ON THE WORKSHOP THAT THE COUNCIL HELD ABOUT A MONTH AGO REGARDING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE COMMUNITY POLICING COMMISSION IS, UH, AND I, THIS IS A, A RECOMMENDATION OF A NAME, ANY, THE PROVISIONS IN HERE ARE SUBJECT TO REVIEW, INPUT AND ANY MODIFICATIONS YOU WANNA MAKE FOR SECOND READING.
UH, THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE ARE BASED ON THE DISCUSSION, UH, THAT WAS QUITE DETAILED AND QUITE A LOT OF GOOD CONTENT AND DIRECTION THAT COUNSEL GAVE AT THAT MEETING.
AND SO THE ORDINANCE AS A RESULT OF THAT, THERE ARE SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN HERE JUST TO KIND OF ORIENT YOU TO THE, THE LAYOUT OF IT.
IT, IT IS, UH, SIMILAR TO OTHER THE LAYOUT OF OTHER, UM, ORDINANCES YOU HAVE THAT ESTABLISH YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THE FIRST SECTION ESTABLISHES THE COMMISSION.
IT NOTES SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER DIRECTLY THAT IDENTIFY THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMISSION.
IT INCORPORATES SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT COUNCIL DISCUSSED ABOUT WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CONDITION WAS INDEPENDENT AND DATA DRIVEN AND BASED ON LOCAL DATA.
THE NEXT SECTION DISCUSSES, YOU'VE GOT A PROVISION IN YOUR ORDINANCE THAT GOVERNS BOARDS GENERALLY.
SO WE NOTE THAT AND THEN WE NOTE WHERE THIS ORDINANCE WOULD GOVERN IN THE EVENT OF A CONFLICT WITH THAT SECTION.
MEMBERSHIP AND QUALIFICATIONS.
THIS SECTION WAS DISCUSSED, UH, QUITE THOROUGHLY BY COUNSEL.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROVISIONS IN HERE I WANNA POINT YOU TO THAT NEED FURTHER INPUT.
THE COMMISSION SHALL CONSIST OF FIVE SEVEN MEMBERS.
THE, THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED OPTIONS RELATED TO HOW MANY MEMBERS THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE, BUT DID NOT, UH, DID NOT SEE THAT THERE WAS A CONCLUSION.
SO WE, WE REQUIRE SOME INPUT FROM COUNSEL ON THAT ITEM.
UH, REGARDING THE QUALIFICATIONS IN SUBSECTION B, THE COUNCIL DISCUSSED THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WOULD NOT BE RELATED TO ANY MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THERE'S A NEED TO DEFINE WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND THE WAY WE DEFINE THAT TYPICALLY IN, UH, STATE LAW AND YOUR REGULATIONS ARE THE DEGREE OF AFFINITY.
HOW, HOW CLOSE ARE THEY BY MARRIAGE AND CONUITY? HOW CLOSE ARE THEY BY BLOOD? I SENT YOU A CHART.
SO YOU'VE GOT THAT IN YOUR EMAILS DURING THE MEETING THAT SHOWS YOU HOW FAR THOSE, UM, THE CIRCLES OF, OF KINSHIP.
I'LL SHOW YOU HOW FAR THAT GOES.
SO YOU COULD SAY THE FIRST DEGREE OF AFFINITY OR CON SAN GOING 82ND OR THIRD.
YOU, YOU GO AS FAR AS YOU DETERMINE.
UM, AND THEN YOU ALSO SAID THAT AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER SHOULD NOT BE RELATED TO A MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THE DEFINITION PROVIDED WAS SUGGESTED TO YOU IN THIS ORDINANCE IS AN IMMEDIATE FAM FAMILY MEMBER, CAN'T BE RELATED TO, UM, AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER, SOMEONE WHO'S RELATED WITHIN THE FIRST DEGREE.
AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN SPOUSE OR A BROTHER, SISTER, PARENT, CHILD.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER DEFINITION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
ONE OF THE PROVISION DISCUSSED WAS THE CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK ELEMENT.
AND THE WAY THIS ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THAT ISSUE IS THE COUNCIL, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL HAVE AN ORIENTATION FOR THE COMMISSION.
AND SECTION TWO DASH 1 29 STATES THAT THE COMMISSION WILL ATTEND AN ORIENTATION
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AND IT DESCRIBES SOME OF THE CONTENT OF THAT ORIENTATION.PLEASE ADD TO MODIFY AS YOU NEED TO.
IT ALSO SAYS THE ORIENTATION WILL INCLUDE A RIDE ALONG PROGRAM.
AND SO AS THE CHIEF DISCUSSED, IF YOU, IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE RIDE ALONG PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO PASS A BACKGROUND CHECK.
AND SO THAT WOULD, UM, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SERVE ON THE COMMISSION, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE RIDE ALONG PROGRAM, WHICH THEN REQUIRES YOU TO PASS THE BACKGROUND CHECK.
SECTION 2 12 8 ADDRESSES THE SELECTION PROCESS PER COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION.
213 ARE THE DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION.
AS DISCUSSED, THERE WAS A PRIMARY DUTY OF PRO OF PREPARING THE ANNUAL REPORT AND SECONDARY DUTIES THAT RELATED TO REVIEWING THE TIMELINESS AND EFFECTIVENESS OF MESSAGING AND CO COMMUNICATIONS REPORTING TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A QUARTERLY, QUARTERLY BASIS ON SOME OF THE DATA THAT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE, THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN IN THE FINAL WOULD BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.
THE COMMISSION IS LIMITED AND WON'T REVIEW INCIDENTS OF USE OF FORCE DEPARTMENTAL PERSONNEL INVESTIGATIONS OR MATTERS INVOLVING NEGOTIATION AND MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENTS.
UH, THE COUNSEL, THE COMMISSION POINTS OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF, IT'S JUST A COMMON FUNCTION OF COMMISSIONS TO DO SO.
THIS ALSO ADDRESSES CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WHO SUPERVISES POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE CHIEF OR THE ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF WILL ACT AS THE STAFF LIAISONS TO THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN TWO DASH 1 33 ADDRESSES THE MEETING AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS TO, TO THE COUNCIL, WHICH ARE DONE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS WITH THAT FIRST QUARTER AND THAT LAST QUARTER TO BE FOCUSED ON PUTTING TOGETHER THE SCOPE OF THE ANNUAL REPORT AND THE LAST QUARTER REPORT TO THE COUNCIL BEING THE REPORTING THE ANNUAL REPORT.
SO THAT'S A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE AND IDENTIFIES A COUPLE OF AREAS WHERE SPECIFIC INPUT IS NEEDED.
AND, UM, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TAKE DIRECTION TO MAKE CHANGES.
WELL, HERE IT IS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UM, MY FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.
UM, I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES COUNCIL'S DIRECTIONS NOT VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND OR CLEAR.
SO I RE I REREAD THIS A COUPLE TIMES AND I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
UM, SO ONE OF MY FIRST REQUESTS WOULD BE UNDER SECTION TWO DASH 1 25 ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMUNITY POLICING COMMISSION AND PURPOSE.
UM, WHEN WE SAY OVERSIGHT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DEFINE OVERSIGHT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM A WHOLE BUNCH OF AUTHORITY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DON'T THINK WE WANNA DO THAT FOR ANY, FOR ANY OVERSIGHT COUNSEL OR, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO DEFINE THE SCOPE OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AS FAR AS BEING AN OVERSIGHT GROUP.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO DEFINE IT OR TO GIVE EXAMPLES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SEVEN MEMBERS, BUT IT'S NOT A HARD SEVEN FOR ME.
IT DEPENDS ON, UM, WHAT I THINK OTHER PEOPLE WOULD FEEL.
FOR ME, IT'S, UH, THE MORE PEOPLE, THE BETTER IDEA OF, OF, UH, THINGS THAT WE CAN FIX.
UM, I DO GET KIND OF NERVOUS BY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR OPERATING PROCEDURES, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD DO THAT FOR, UH, SAY LIKE PUBLIC WORKS OR FOR AN OVERSIGHT.
LIKE IF WE HAD AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AS A COUNCIL, DO WE WANT THEM TO TELL US EXACTLY.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T KNOW THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW.
AND SO WHEN, WHEN THESE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA BE, UM, GIVING ADVICE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FULLY INFORMED ULTIMATELY.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE KINSHIP, I SEE THAT THERE'S AN AFFINITY.
UM, CON CONSANGUINITY, CONSANGUINITY, JUST LIKE IN SCHOOL, UM, WE JUST PICKED BETWEEN ONE OF THESE TWO.
IS THAT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING? LIKE HOW DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK? WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT RELATED MEANS.
SO, SO FIRST DEGREE IS LIKE AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER.
SECOND DEGREE IS, IT'S, SO IF A FIRST DEGREE WOULD BE LIKE A PARENT, A SECOND DEGREE WOULD BE A GRANDPARENT.
SO YOU GO, YOU'D GO TWO LEVELS.
LIKE I, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO BE LIKE YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW.
COULD, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MM-HMM.
SO HOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE LIMIT THAT, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT IN-LAWS.
AND THAT WOULD BE AFFINITY IS THE IN-LAWS AND CONSANGUINITY OF THE BLOOD RELATIVES.
SO AFFINITY CAPTURES THE SPOUSE AND THEN THE IN-LAWS
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AND CONSANGUINITY CAPTURES THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS.BUT IT WOULD, THE AFFINITY WOULD ALSO COVER BLOOD AS WELL, OR NO? WELL, I'M JUST SAYING I, IF I DON'T WANT A BROTHER-IN-LAW, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT A DAUGHTER.
SO IF IT'S A FIRST DEGREE OF KINSHIP, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FATHER-IN-LAW, SON-IN-LAW, SPOUSE, DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, MOTHER-IN-LAW.
THAT'S FIRST DEGREE OF AFFINITY, SECOND DEGREE GETS TO YOUR SPOUSE'S GRANDPARENT.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE FIRST DEGREE PROBABLY CAPTURES WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
IF WE SAY FIRST DEGREE OF AFFINITY AND FIRST DEGREE OF CONSANGUINITY, THAT THAT GETS THE IMMEDIATE BLOOD RELATIVES.
AND THEN IN THE IMMEDIATE IN-LAWS, THE IMMEDIATE IN-LAWS WOULD BE FATHER-IN-LAW, SON-IN-LAW, SPOUSE, DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, MOTHER-IN-LAW.
I KNOW TO BE ON A BOARD, THERE'S LIMITATIONS.
IF SOMEBODY'S ON COUNCIL AND THEIR RELATIVE WANTS TO BE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? AND IS THERE ANY WAY TO KEEP IT KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH THAT? SO WE, YOUR CHARTER MAY HAVE A PROVISION, AND IF YOUR CHARTER DOESN'T HAVE IT, IT WOULD BE STATE LAW.
IT IT, IT AFFECTS THE EMPLOYEES.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A NEPOTISM LAW THAT APPLIES TO EMPLOYEES.
BUT DOESN'T IT APPLY TO COUNCIL NOMINATING OR HAVING FAMILY ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS WELL? IT DOES BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THE, THEY'RE DEFINED AS OFFICERS, CORRECT? YES.
SO I'M WONDERING WHAT THE, WHAT WE DO FOR OUR COUNCIL.
I CAN CONFIRM THERE'S TWO PLACES I NEED TO LOOK.
SO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO NARROW DOWN IS THAT IF THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT IS RELATED TO A PERSON ON COUNCIL, WHETHER THEY ARE RELATED BY IN-LAW OR OTHERS, THAT THEY WOULD NOT QUALIFY TO BE ON A BOARD? NO, NOT FROM COUNCIL.
SINCE THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED OFFICERS, THEY WILL NOT BE QUALIFIED TO BE ON A BOARD.
LIKE IF MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, I, I THINK MY MOTHER-IN-LAW COULD UNDER THIS PROVISION.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
WELL, TH THIS PROVISION SAYS THAT IT'S A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION CAN'T HAVE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF RELATIONSHIP WITH A MEMBER OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU'RE KEEPING THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF POLICE DEPARTMENT MEMBERS OFF OF THE BOARD TO MAINTAIN THAT OBJECTIVITY.
SO WE'RE GOING OFF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ITSELF, CORRECT? THIS IS JUST CORRECT IN EMPLOYEES.
YEAH, I'M JUST, I WAS JUST TRYING TO COMPARE IT.
SEE, YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA WHAT WE HAVE AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA IMPLEMENT FOR THIS COMMITTEE? IF, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
I BELIEVE IT'S UNDER SIX THAT DEMONSTRATE ANY BIAS AGAINST, OR FOUR, I GUESS AGAINST.
AND THAT, I GUESS I WOULD BRING IT UP TOO.
NUMBER SIX, THIS IS NOT TO HAVE A DEMONSTRATED BIAS AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT SHOULD IT ALSO STATE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, I MEAN, BACK AND FORTH, THAT THAT IS, THAT CAN, THAT COULD BE ADDED.
MY, WHEN I REVIEWED THE DISCUSSION, IT SEEMED TO BE, THE CONCERN WAS PRIMARILY AGAINST BIAS AGAINST MM-HMM.
I DIDN'T WANNA YEAH, MY QUESTION I DID NOT ADD TO THAT.
THAT'S WHICH WOULD BE, IF WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY FOR OR AGAINST, THEN WHO WOULD WE PICK? YEAH.
AND HOW DO YOU REALLY GO AND DIG THROUGH THAT? WHICH BRINGS THE POINT FROM SEVEN MEMBERS.
I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING IT CLEAN ENOUGH, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
FAVORITISMS TO A FRONT MM-HMM.
AND YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE THEIR VIEWS ON THINGS.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, YOU KNOW, SHOWING WHAT YOU WANT TO BE AS NONPARTISAN AS POSSIBLE, WHICH, AND, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE TRICKY.
WE UNDERSTAND IT IS, IT'S GONNA BE HARD, BUT IT'S, IT, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WILL LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT TO SAY, I AM HERE TO DO THIS, TO BE ON THIS BOARD, TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING OBJECTIVELY FROM BOTH SIDES AND FROM THE DATA.
CUZ AGAIN, THIS IS DATA DRIVEN INFORMATION.
AND SO WHAT WE COULD DO IS IF WE HAVE MORE DISCUSSION, IF WE WANT, UH, COUNSEL, WE CAN GO LINE BY LINE AND THEN VOTE ON THE FIRST READING OF, OF, UM,
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THE SECTIONS WANT TO GO BY THAT, DUNNO IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY OTHER FEEDBACK, WE CAN DO IT THEN.SO IF YOU WANT, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE ITSELF.
OF COURSE, IT'S ALREADY THERE, UH, STATED BY THE CHARTER FOR THE, WHEREAS MM-HMM.
SO WE CAN GO NOW TO THE DIVISION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICING COMMITTEE.
UH, THE SECTION 2 1 25 ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COMMUNITY POLIC POLICING COMMISSIONS.
IT'S STILL VERBIAGE FROM THE CHARTER ITSELF, UH, IS, IS INTENDED THAT THE COMMISSION BE INDEPENDENT DATA DRIVEN TO PERFORMS ITS DUTIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS FREE FROM PRO OR ANTI LAW ENFORCEMENT BIASES OR BASED ON LOCAL DATA.
SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS AT ANY ACTION THAT RESULT THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MEANINGFUL AND EFFECTIVE FOR THE CITIZENS THERE.
SO WE CAN NOW GO ON TO SECTION 2 1 26, APPLICANT AFI OF REGULATIONS GOVERNING BOARDS GENERAL, UM, DO WE SEE ANYTHING IN THAT SECTION NOW? IF NOT, WE CAN GO TO SECTION 2 1 27 MEMBERSHIP AND QUALIFICATIONS.
SO I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO TAKE THE FIRST READING VOTE ON A, THE COMMISSION SHALL SHALL CONS.
SORRY ABOUT MY LANGUAGE SHALL CONSIST OF FIVE OR SLASH SEVEN MEMBERS.
IF, IF THE PERSON IS NOT GOING TO BE A COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN A COUNCIL MEMBER SUGGEST OF A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF THIS BOARD? I MEAN, LIKE, IF WE PICK OUR OWN ETHICS APPOINTEE.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT LIES TO WHERE WE GO INTO THE, UM, WELL WE'RE DOING THE, GOING WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION'S POLICY ORIENTATION, THE SELECTION PROCESS, WHICH IS IN 1 28.
THE APPLICATION SHALL INCLUDE THE PAPERWORK REQUIRED TO CONFIRM THE INDIVIDUAL'S ELIGIBILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S RIDE ALONG PROGRAM.
BUT IT ALSO, THE CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND ONE COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTED TO THE COUNCIL SHALL INTERVIEW THE QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS FOR THE COMMISSIONS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE INDIVIDUALS FOR APPOINTMENT.
IT'S KIND OF KEEPING THE SAME CONCEPT OF OUR BOARDS AND ALSO OUR LIBRARY THAT WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING HERE.
BECAUSE IF, IF WE LOOK AT IT LIKE APPOINTING AGAIN, WHO'S TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO APPOINT THIS PERSON HERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THIS PERSON WOULD, WOULD FIT.
UM, AND IT WOULDN'T BE APPOINTING IT.
I'M SAYING IT'S LIKE WE KNOW WHICH OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE INVOLVED AND ARE WHO ARE THE RESIDENTS THAT ASK QUESTIONS.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF WE WERE TO OPEN THIS UP AND A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO EACH OF US SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT MEET THE, THE CRITERIA AND WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED, WE COULD MAKE THE SUGGESTION.
WELL, IT, IT'D BE THE SAME THING IF THEY JUST, WE JUST, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S JUST LIKE RIGHT NOW, LIKE RIGHT NOW WE, WE HAVE OPENINGS FOR PARK SPORTS AND I'LL PUT ON MY FACEBOOK, HEY, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO GET INVOLVED IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, HERE'S THE LINK.
WE CAN PROMOTE IT THAT WAY AND, OR IT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, UH, YOU GUYS HIRING? YEAH, WELL GO ONTO THE WEBSITE, SEE IF, IF YOU, IF YOU FIT, WE CAN, WE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY TO DO IT.
BUT AS FAR AS APPOINTING, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WERE KIND OF AT.
NO, AND I DON'T MEAN LET'S APPOINT THIS PERSON.
UM, CAN WE RECOMMEND, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
CAN WE SOMEHOW, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA SAY RECO, WE CAN RECOMMEND NOW, BUT MAYBE ON THE APPLICATION FURTHER DOWN THE PROCESS, THERE COULD BE AN AREA WHERE THEY COULD SAY THEY WERE RECOMMENDED BY, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL MEMBER.
BUT, UM, I THINK AS FAR AS GIVING IT WEIGHT, THAT'S GONNA BE DIFFICULT.
CAN WE NOT DO THAT? I THINK THAT KIND OF GOES AGAINST A LOT OF THE NEPOTISM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT DIRECT NEPOTISM.
IT'S THE, IT'S A SIMILAR PRINCIPLE OF SOMEONE WHO COULD CARRY BY BIAS OR, UH, SOMEONE'S PERCEPTION FORWARD ONTO A COMMITTEE.
SO, SO GOING BACK TO SECTION, UH, 1 27 A, THE COMMISSION SHALL CONSISTS OF FIVE OR SEVEN MEMBERS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR SEVEN MEMBERS.
THERE'S BEEN A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE TO GO WITH SEVEN MEMBERS.
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A SECOND? UH, I CAN SECOND THAT.WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBERS ZUNIGA ON THE, UH, PROPOSITION OF SEVEN MEMBERS FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ITSELF? HMM.
YEAH, I GUESS I'M KINDA CURIOUS CUZ I GO, I CAN GO EITHER WAY.
UM, BUT WHY, WHY THE LESSER OF THE TWO WOULD BE MY QUESTION.
IT WAS FOR TIME, RIGHT? A SMALLER MEETING, MORE DONE, LESS BACK AND FORTH.
BUT I'M NOT OPPOSED OF TO SEVEN.
LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WITH SEVEN IT'S LIKE, CUZ THAT TOO MANY COOKS IN THE KITCHEN.
AND THEN AS IF IT'S FIVE, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH EXPERTISE, UH, OR FIVE SHOW UP, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SCHEDULES.
THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GO THROUGH THE DATA MM-HMM.
WELL, I MEAN, EXPERTISE TO GO THROUGH THE DATA IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
BECAUSE DATA ANALYSIS ISN'T REALLY SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE A, BUT THEN ARE WE GOING TO BE REQUIRED A PARTICULAR SET OF SKILLS FOR YOU TO BE ON THE BOARD? I MM-HMM.
MY THOUGHT WOULD JUST BE THE MORE YOU HAVE, THE MORE IDEAS YOU HAVE.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST CUZ THAT'S THE WAY I LEARNED.
BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WOULD ONLY BE FIVE IN THE ESSENCE OF TIME.
DO WE WANT RECOMMENDATIONS THOUGH? NO, NO, NO.
WE, WE DECIDED NO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LIKE, LIKE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND.
YEAH, WE NO, NO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION TO US.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN MEMBERS FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS? OKAY, THOSE IN FAVOR FOR SEVEN SAY AYE.
THOSE FOR FI, THOSE DISAPPROVE.
IT WAS LIKE WHO SAID YES AND WHO SAID NO? I SAID 42.
42 WHEN YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING.
SO THE FIRST READING, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SEVEN ON THE, UH, AND WE CAN ALWAYS EIGHT ADJUST THAT, RIGHT? LIKE WE CAN BRING THIS BACK IF SEVEN'S NOT WORKING.
WE HAVE A SECOND READING ON THIS.
I JUST MEAN LIKE LATER ON AFTER IT'S ESTABLISHED SURE CAN THEY CAN MM-HMM.
SO WE'RE NOW GONNA GO TO SECTION B.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY COMMENTS OR ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT REFERENCING, UH, THAT SECTION THERE? OKAY.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO TO SECTION 1 28 OF THE SELECTION PROCESS.
IF, IF I MAY ON THAT ONE SECTION ABOUT THE DEGREE OF RELATIONSHIP YES MA'AM.
AND UNDER YOUR CHARTER, THE NO PERSON RELATED WITHIN THE SECOND DEGREE OF CONSANGUINITY TO A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL OR THE CITY MANAGER CAN BE EMPLOYED.
SO YOU'VE GOTTA, THAT'S THE DEGREE WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL OR MANAGER BEING RELATED TO AN EMPLOYEE IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A COMPARISON.
SO DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO ADD THAT OR, WELL, AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT SECOND DEGREE LOOKS LIKE, WOULD YOU MIND JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE? THE SECOND DEGREE SENT THAT TO YOU.
SECOND DEGREE FOR CONSANGUINITY, YOUR BLOOD RELATIVE IS FATHER, SON, DAUGHTER, MOTHER.
SO NOBODY'S A FATHER, SON, DAUGHTER, A MOTHER OF A POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE OR A GRANDFATHER? BROTHER, SISTER, GRANDSON.
SO THAT WOULD BE FOR SECTION B, UH, B FIVE.
AND FOR THE IN-LAWS, IT'S, IT'S YOUR FATHER, SON, SPOUSE, DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, MOTHER-IN-LAW.
SO ALL THE FATHER, SON, FATHER-IN-LAW, SON-IN-LAW, MOTHER-IN-LAW, DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, SPOUSE.
AND THEN YOUR SPOUSE'S, GRANDFATHER, SPOUSE'S, GRANDDAUGHTER, SPOUSE'S.
YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW THAT CATCH THAT CAPTURES THE BROTHER-IN-LAW, THE SISTER-IN-LAW.
YOUR SPOUSE'S, GRANDSON, SPOUSE'S, GRANDMOTHER, BROTHER, SPOUSE, WHICH IS A SISTER-IN-LAW AND THE SISTER'S SPOUSE, A BROTHER-IN-LAW.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S LIKE, YEAH, IT GETS LIKE KYLE LIKE 30, 40 YEARS AGO.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE TOWN, RIGHT?
SORRY, HE CAN'T BE ON THE BOARD.
SO, UH, I GUESS WITH NUMBER FIVE, SO WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION IF WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ADD THE VERBIAGE OR THE NUMBER OF SECOND DEGREE TO, UH, SECTION FIVE.
IS THAT A MOTION? IS IT SECOND? YEAH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ADD SECOND DEGREE TO SECTION FIVE ON, UH, 1 27.
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SECOND.SECOND BY COUNCIL MAYOR FLORES KALE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REFERENCING THAT MOTION? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
TO THOSE OPPOSED MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO TO ADD SECOND DEGREE VERBIAGE ON SECTION FIVE.
WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE ON TO 1 28 SELECTION PROCESS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION ITEMS ON THAT, ON THE QUALIFICATIONS AND SO FORTH? OKAY.
SO THEN, AND LET'S MOVE ON TO 1 29.
DURING ORIENTATION, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION'S CHOW ATTEND AN ORIENTATION THAT EDUCATES THE MEMBERS REGARDING THE HISTORY STRUCTURE FUNCTIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDED BY THE CITY WITHIN 30 DAYS OF APPOINTMENT OF APPOINTMENT, THE ORIENTATION SHALL INCLUDE ONE RIDE ALONG WITH THE POLICE OFFICER PURSUANT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIDE ALONG PROGRAM.
SO ARE WE ALL GOOD ON THAT? COUNCILMAN FLORES CARE? SORRY, UM, CAN WE GO BACK TO SECTION TWO DASH 1 28 SELECTION PROCESS? OKAY.
WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IS, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN MAKING THAT LIKE A ONE YEAR LIMIT OR LIKE WHAT'S THE PROCESS IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T GET REELECTED? UM, SO IT JUST SAYS RIGHT NOW AND ONE COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD INTER INTERVIEW QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS.
UM, WAS THAT YEARLY LIKE TO BE ELECTED YEARLY? I THINK IT ALSO GOES WITH THE TERM OF THE, OF THE BOARDS.
CUZ I KNOW EVERYTHING ELSE IS TWO YEARS.
LIKE THE PARTS BOARD IS WHAT, THREE YEARS AND THE LIBRARY BOARDS, BUT WE CHANGE EVERY YEAR, LIKE WHEN WE REPRESENT DIFFERENT BOARDS.
SO WAS IT GONNA BE THE SAME WAY WITH THIS ONE AS WELL? SO YOU THE BOARD, OH, THIS COMMISSION WILL HAVE A TWO YEAR TERM.
THE MEMBERS WILL HAVE TWO YEAR TERMS MM-HMM.
THERE'S A CALL FOR APPLICATIONS FROM JUNE 1ST THROUGH AUGUST 31ST OF EVERY YEAR.
AND THEN, SO IT, IT SEEMS LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE IS TO HAVE THE COUNCIL APPOINTEE DESIGNATED MAYBE IN MAY OR JUNE DURING THAT APPLICATION PERIOD MM-HMM.
AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY VACANCIES THAT ARISE DURING THE YEAR, THEN YOU, YOU'LL BE IN SERVICE TO SELECT SOMEONE WHO FILLS THAT VACANCY FOR A ONE YEAR TERM.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER? YEAH.
SO THE, IF THE COUNCIL, SO IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE A ONE YEAR TERM A ACCORDING TO THE, UH, LIKE ELECTION YEAR, NOT ELECTION YEAR, BUT LIKE THE YEAR THAT THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE A, OH, IF YOU SELECT SOMEBODY WHO'S GONNA BE UP FOR ELECTION, YOU'D HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.
BUT IF IT CHANGES EVERY YEAR, WE CAN JUST SAY, MAKE IT A YEARLY POSITION WHERE WE ARE GONNA BE APPOINTING THIS PEOPLE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO IF WE WERE TO DO THE SELECTION THIS YEAR, YOU THAT COUNCILMAN THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE HERE RIGHT? IN TWO YEARS.
SO IT THEN LET'S LOOK AT THIS ON A YEARLY BASIS FOR COUNCIL'S RELATIONSHIP TO THIS COMMISSION.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, Y YOU YVONNE, MR. MAYOR? NO, NO, NOT, NO, HE'S NOT UP FOR REELECTION.
IN THIS ELECTION PROCESS BECAUSE YOU'RE UP FOR REELECTION.
WELL, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IN AGREEMENT HERE ON YEAH.
BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT NOT COMPLETE THE YEAR IN THE TUR.
UH, WELL YOU WOULD THAT, THAT I KIND OF DISAGREE ON BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL ON COUNCIL CAUSE YOUR VOICE STILL MATTERS THEN.
UH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE HOW WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW.
I'M ON THE PARKS BOARD, UH, COMMISSION INTERVIEW.
HE IS ON THE, UH, THE TRAIN DEPOT.
YOU ARE ON THE, WHO'S ON THE PARKS? SO DANIELLE'S ON THE PARKS AND THEN WHOEVER, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IT ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL IN THOSE SLOTS, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE UP FOR REELECTION THAT YEAR, WE'RE STILL UP TO ELECTION DAY STILL END AFTER, UNTIL WE, THE, THE OTHER PERSON GETS SWORN IN.
WE ARE STILL, WE ARE STILL COUNCIL MEMBERS UP TO THAT POINT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY THE WHOLE CONCEPT WAS TO FOLLOW THE, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION'S POLICY AND PROCEDURES THAT WE WENT THROUGH SO MUCH ABOUT.
AND THEN THAT WAY IT'S ALL UNIFORM ACROSS
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THE BOARD.IT'S UNIFORM TO WHERE WE CAN BE ABLE TO DO IT WITH THE SAME WITH THE PARK.
WE DO IT WITH THE EDUCATION BOARD.
SO IT'S WHEN THE TIME COMES TO WHERE WE NEED TO SELECT A MEMBER FOR THE KYLE DEPOT, THE LIBRARIES, WE CAN ALSO ASSIGN SOMEBODY TO THE, UH, THIS COMMITTEE RIGHT HERE TO BE THAT LIAISON, WHETHER THEY'RE UP FOR REELECTION OR NOT.
SO HOW DO WE STATE THAT IN HERE THAT THAT IS GONNA FOLLOW THE SAME COUNCIL? UM, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT PRIOR TO THE SELECTION OF THE BOARD, THERE WILL BE AN AGENDA ITEM TO SELECT THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WILL BE MAKING MM-HMM.
AND SO EVERY TIME THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A SELECTION PROCESS MM-HMM.
BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN WORD THAT IN THERE,
SO THERE WAS AN OPENING FOR THE LIBRARY AND I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS SELECTED FOR THE YEAR TO DO THAT.
IF YOU GIVE DIRECTIONAL, I'LL DRAFT IT.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE GOING TO, WE'LL BE, WE WILL IN APPOINT THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE SELECTION PROCESS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION PROCESS.
IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU TO IT IS.
AND I, I'M GONNA NOTE ALSO THAT SINCE WE KNOW HOW MANY MEMBERS THERE ARE FOR THE COMMISSION, WITH YOUR FIRST SET OF APPOINTMENTS OF COMMISSION MEMBERS, THEY SHOULD SERVE STAGGERED TERMS SO THEY'RE NOT ALL ROLLING OFF AT THE SAME TIME.
SO I'LL PUT A PARAGRAPH IN HERE FOR A SECOND.
READING THAT TALKS ABOUT, YEAH, YOUR FIRST SET OF APPOINTMENTS, YOU'LL HAVE SOME THAT WILL SERVE JUST A YEAR, AND THEN OTHERS THAT'LL SERVE IT A FULL YEAR, A FULL, THEIR FULL TWO YEAR TERM SO THAT THEY CAN GET ON THAT STAGGERED CYCLE.
SO, SO SHOULD IT JUST BE ACROSS SEVEN? BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW.
LET'S SAY WE FINALLY, WELL, LET'S SAY WE DO IT THIS YEAR, WE GET SEVEN PEOPLE ON BOARD.
SOMEBODY HAS TO DROP OUT, UNFORTUNATELY, WITHIN THE YEAR, THEN THAT'S WHERE THAT PROCESS WILL LIE.
BUT AS LONG AS WE STAY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS SO THAT WE'RE ALL IN, IN, IN THE ELECTION YEARS TO WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO CHOOSE ONE HERE, CHOOSE ONE THERE, UH, BUT WE'LL APPOINT US AS AS WE NEED TO MM-HMM.
SO IF SOMEBODY'S ON FOR A YEAR, THEN THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE WHOLE COMMITTEE IS DONE, THEN THEY CAN REAPPLY AND GO FROM THERE.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING ON TO SECTION ONE 30 TO DUTIES.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS REFERENCING THAT? OKAY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THE, UM, THE LIMITATIONS? THE COMMISSION SHALL NOT REVIEW INCIDENTS OF USE OF FORCE, DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL INVESTIGATIONS, OR MATTERS INVOLVING NEGOTIATING OR MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENTS.
WE'RE GOOD ON THAT WITH THE APPOINTMENTS AND SECTION 1 33 MEETINGS AND REPORTED TO COUNSEL.
ARE WE ALL GOOD ON THAT? MM-HMM.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING DOWN TO SECTION THREE OF THE AMENDMENT OF THE ORDINANCES.
ARE WE GOOD ON THE VERBIAGE ON THE CODE, THE EFFECTIVE DATES AND THE OPEN MEETINGS? OKAY.
IF WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS FIRST READING, UH, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT? OKAY.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, THE FIRST READING OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24 24.
WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ESTABLISHING THE COMMUNITY POLICING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 7 0 6 B OF THE CITY CHARTER.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN HEISER REFERENCING THE, UH, AGENDA 24 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MM-HMM.
WE'VE GOT SIX TO ZERO ON THIS FOR THE FIRST READING.
MAYOR PROTE, I HAVE A YES MA'AM.
REQUEST THAT YOU TAKE UP AN AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY VOTED ON, NUMBER 19.
AND REVIEWING THE ACTION, THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND MADE ON INCREASING THAT AMOUNT FROM 35,780 TO 46,485.
SO THERE WAS A MOTION IN A, IN A SECOND.
SO THERE'S, BUT THERE, THE, THERE WAS NOT A VOTE TAKEN OH, OKAY.
SO WE JUST WANNA CLOSE THAT OUT.
IF YOU WOULD TAKE THAT AGENDA ITEM BACK UP AND VOTE ON THAT MOTION TO INCREASE THAT CONTRACT COST.
AND THEN WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL MAKE VEZ HAPPY.
AND CITY SECRETARY HAPPY? YES, YVONNE, DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD, YVONNE, WILL YOU MAKE THE MOTION? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AN AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $46,485 NOT TO BE EXCEEDED
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FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES RELATED TO ACCEPTING HUD ENTITLEMENT STATUS AND THE C D B G PROGRAM.MOTION WAS MADE TO INCREASE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, DISCUSSIONS ON THE MOTION? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[25. Discussion and possible action directing staff to research other city-created mental health programs, including third-party partnerships, for the purpose of creating a service contract to support Kyle residents who are seeking mental health care. ~ Bear Heiser, Yvonne Flores-Cale, and Daniela Parsley, Council Members]
ALL RIGHT.NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25.
IT'S TO, UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION DIRECTING STAFF TO RESEARCH OTHER CITY RELATED MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS, INCLUDING THIRD PARTY PARTNERSHIPS, UH, CREATING A SERVICE CONTRACT TO SUPPORT CAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE STILL SEEKING HEALTHCARE MENTAL HEALTH.
AND THIS IS ALSO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BE HEISER FLORES KALE AND DANIELLE PARSLEY.
THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, UH, MENTAL HEALTH, AND I KNOW IT IS, IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
I THINK WE'VE ALL THROUGH PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE, HAVE, UH, HEARD FROM EXPERTS AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH STAFF ON THE LACK OF MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.
WE HAVE INDEPENDENTLY FROM THESE MEETINGS MET WITH SETON HOSPITAL, UH, HEARD FROM THEM AND, UM, HEARD THAT BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM, UM, UM, UH, CASES ARE, UH, NUMBER TWO IN TERMS OF THE, THE VOLUME OF SERVICES THAT THEY RECEIVE IN THAT HOSPITAL.
UH, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY THINK THAT WE AS A CITY, ESPECIALLY AS THAT WE'RE GROWING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LIFE GETS MORE COMPLICATED, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE BETTER CAN SUPPORT THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND SO THE, THE THREE OF US, MYSELF, UH, YVONNE AND DANIELA HAVE HAVE DISCUSSED, UH, HOW WE COULD TRY TO GO ABOUT THIS.
AND, UH, THE, THE ASK TODAY, AND I'LL OPEN IT UP, WOULD BE FOR STAFF TO JUST, LET'S LOOK AT COMPARISON PROGRAMS OF WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE AROUND THE COUNTRY TO, UM, TO PUT TOGETHER THOSE RESOURCES TO FILL THE GAPS, WORK WITH THIRD PARTY ORGANIZATIONS SO THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SEND, UM, SETON HOSPITALS NOT HAVING TO SEND PATIENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, 30, 40 MINUTES AWAY TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP, UM, IN, IN THE JOURNEY OF, YOU KNOW, SEEKING MENTAL HEALTHCARE.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL YIELD MY TIME FOR, OR YEAH.
UM, I AM AWARE THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONER MARK JONES HAD STARTED, UH, A PROCESS WHERE WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING AT THE COUNTY LEVEL TO ASSIST WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
AND SO IN THE PROCESS OF OUR STAFF SPEAKING TO OTHER CITIES, UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE OUR STAFF SPEAK TO THE COUNTY, UM, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET A REGIONAL HOSPITAL, UM, TO ASSIST WITH OUR, UM, WITH OUR MENTAL AWARENESS ISSUES OF THAT.
WE HAVE, UM, I DID SPEAK BRIEFLY TO, UH, CHIEF BARNETT AND HE MENTIONED THAT, UM, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DRIVE 40 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO GET SOMEBODY THERE.
AND SO, UM, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN THAT SITUATION, UH, 40 MINUTES TO AN HOUR, I CAN FEEL LIKE A LIFETIME.
AND SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY ASK IS THAT WE ALSO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER TO GET SOME KIND OF, UM, BUILDING OR STRUCTURE OR HOSPITAL CLOSER TO OUR CITY, WHICH, UM, NOT JUST US, BUT YOU KNOW, CITY SAN MARCUS AND BUTTA COULD UTILIZE.
UH, AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE ALL I ASK.
I APPRECIATE WHAT BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER HEIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES K HAVE MENTIONED BECAUSE IT, IT'S KIND OF, UM, RESUMES.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, UM, I DO KNOW THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONER, COUNTY COMMISSIONER, UM, COHEN IS REALLY BIGGUN TO MENTAL HEALTH.
SHE HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH US, AND I THINK THAT WORKING COLLECTIVELY WITH THE COUNTY WILL BE THE WAY TO GO FOR US TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF PLAN TO OFFER MORE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE, WHAT HAS BEEN USED, AND HOW CAN WE CONNECT WITH THEM AND TO WORKING, TO BRINGING SOMETHING TO KYLE.
SO I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT I, I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MOST OF THESE PLACES HAVE A HARD TIME WITH IS THE FACILITY ITSELF.
UM, AND THE STAFF AND THE RESOURCES.
WE CAN GO WITH THE RESOURCES, BUT AGAIN, YOU GOTTA HAVE A LOCATION, UM, OR JUST A, A FACILITY THAT
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SOMEBODY CAN REALLY GO TO AND GET THAT CARE, WHETHER IT'S, UH, COUNSELING SERVICES OR MEDICAL, SO FORTH.UM, SO I, I WANT TO KNOW IF, IF CITY STAFF COULD MAYBE POSSIBLY LOOK AROUND THE CITY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PLACES THAT MIGHT, ANY, ANY, UH, BUILDINGS OR ANY FACILITIES RIGHT OFF THE BAT, JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT KIND OF A LOCATION THAT IF WE WERE TO HELP WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS, IF WE WERE TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE CITY, AND THEN ALSO MAYBE LOOK AT TO WHERE COULD WE LOOK AT MAYBE HIRING A CITY OF KYLE HUMAN, UH, I MEAN A MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCE, UH, COUNSELOR THAT COULD WORK WITHIN THE CITY TO, UH, TO HELP IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS.
AND WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THE, ALL THOSE THINGS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED INTERNALLY AS STAFF.
AND WE BELIEVE THE COUNTY HAS SOME RESOURCES THAT WE COULD PARTICIPATE IN AND MAYBE CONTRIBUTE TO, TO EXPAND ON THAT.
BUT WE, WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS AS WELL AS WHAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE PRIVATELY WITHIN THE CITY.
YEAH, AND I'M, I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE TEXAS REC, TEXANS RECOVERY GROUP.
THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WE BROUGHT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO WITH THE COVID, UM, PANDEMIC WHEN WE HAD TEENAGERS AND, AND ADOLESCENTS THAT WERE STRUGGLING WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND DEPRESSION.
UM, JUST WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM TO SEE IF THEY'RE STILL HAVING FUNDINGS.
BUT I ALSO NOTICED, I DID READ UP NOT TOO LONG AGO, THE STATE IS REALLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET MORE MONEY INTO THE MENTAL HEALTH.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT ON THAT LEVEL.
IF WE CAN GO TO OUR DISTRICT OR OUR CONGRESSIONAL ON THAT END, START GOING FROM THERE TO SAY, IF WE COULD START TYING SOME OF THAT MONEY TO COME TO HAYES COUNTY REFERENCING THAT, WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT MY INTENTION FOR THIS, OR MY HOPE DOWN THE ROAD IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PARTNER NOT ONLY WITH THE COUNTY, BUT OUR, OUR LOCAL AND UM, UH, NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVES TO, TO BRING MONEY BACK HERE, UH, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE OUR OWN PROGRAM THAT WE COULD, THAT WE COULD RUN, UH, AS A CITY, UH, USING THIRD PARTIES IS, IS THE EXPERTS TO ACTUALLY OPERATIONALIZE IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
BUT THAT IS WHERE I HOPE TO SEE THAT GO, BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, SETON'S FUTURE PLANS FOR GROWTH HERE ARE NOT, UH, MORE BEHAVIORAL AND MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES ARE NOT NECESSARILY FRONT AND CENTER IN THOSE PLANTS.
SO UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I'M UNAWARE OF AT THE MOMENT, I DON'T SEE AN IMMEDIATE SOLUTION IN JUST GIVEN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE, THE FENTANYL ISSUE THAT'S TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW.
UH, I'VE, YOU KNOW, SAT IN ROOMS WITH SOME OF THOSE PARENTS AND HEARD THEIR STORIES AND, AND THE STORIES ARE THE SAME.
UH, THEY, THEY SAW TREATMENT, YOU KNOW, THE INSURANCE WAS AN ISSUE.
THEY WERE SENT, YOU KNOW, 45 MINUTES AN HOUR AWAY, UP NORTH, YOU KNOW, NORTH OF AUSTIN.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER, HAVE SOMETHING HERE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO USE IF, IF NEEDED.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE'S GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE AS WELL, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.
AND I KNOW THAT STAFF ALREADY HAS, AND VICTORIA'S NOT HERE, BUT SHE'S BEEN SUPER HELPFUL IN, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR MYSELF AND SOME OTHERS TO LEARN MORE, UM, UH, ABOUT WHAT WHAT THE CITY CURRENTLY IS DOING HAS DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA SEE IF, UM, OUR STAFF WOULD LOOK AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE'S WEBSITE.
I KNOW SEATTLE HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST SUICIDE RATES, AND SO THEY ARE BIG ON MENTAL, UM, WELLNESS AND, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST OFFERING RESOURCES, UM, AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN READ INFORMATION.
I SEE RIGHT HERE, THERE, EVERY YEAR THEY HAVE AN EVENT WHERE PEOPLE JUST GET TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S NOTHING MORE THAN JUST, UM, PEOPLE GATHERING AND GIVING SUPPORT.
SO, UH, IF I COULD RECOMMEND THAT, I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT RESOURCE.
IS THAT, UH, IN NEED OF A MOTION OR DO WE JUST, UH, GO AHEAD AND DIRECT STAFF TO, TO LOOK AT THAT? IT'D BE BEST IF WE HAD A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF AND OUTLINE WHAT THE DIRECTION IS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT TOO.
SO, UM, YEAH, THESE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, I KNOW WE'RE FULL OF, FULL OF MANY EVENTS, BUT MAYBE THE CITY COULD WORK ON AN EVENT THAT'S LIKE A HEALTH AND WELLNESS EVENT WHERE RESIDENTS CAN COME OUT, LEARN THEIR BLOOD PRESSURE, LEARN ABOUT NUTRITION, AND WE PARTNER WITH THE SEED N OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SO PEOPLE CAN COME OUT AND LEARN MORE ABOUT SYMPTOMS AND, UM, WHAT THEY CAN DO TO, UH, UM,
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YOU KNOW, BE IN A BETTER STATE OF MIND.UM, BUT HAVE THE MAKE IT A COMMUNITY TYPE OF EVENT.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING GREAT WORK ALREADY, BUT IF WE HAD A LITTLE TYPE OF EVENT, UM, THAT WOULD BE USEFUL TO THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK ARSEN DOES SOMETHING LIKE, UM, UM, HEALTH FAIR RIGHT? HEALTH FAIR EVERY YEAR AT THE HOSPITAL.
UM, BUT WE COULD LOOK AT SEEING IF WE CAN MAYBE PARTNER UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THAT END.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO ANYBODY WANT, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CHE.
I THINK THAT IT IS COMING FROM A REALLY GREAT PLACE AND I EMPATHIZE COMPLETELY, BUT I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD INTERFERE A METAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH OR HEALTH, UM, OF ANY INDIVIDUAL.
AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY YES TO THIS, BUT ONLY IF ONLY SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT IS BROUGHT BACK THAT DOES NOT COST ANY TAXPAYER MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH IT.
I WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO IT, BUT I'M NOT WILLING TO EXPEND RESOURCES ON IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR EMOTIONS? I DON'T THINK THERE IS A MOTION.
ANYBODY, BUT, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WANTS TO BE, UM, AMENDMENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK INTO THE THIRD PARTY PARTNERSHIPS, UM, THAT ARE RELATED TO BRING SOME SUPPORT OF MENTAL HEALTH.
AND I GUESS ONCE THIS IS DONE, THEN WE CAN WORK COLLECTIVELY WITH THE COUNTY.
BUT LET'S LOOK INTO THE RESOURCES FIRST.
GET THOSE PRESENTED TO US JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES AND THEN WE CAN TAKE ANOTHER VOTE.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLOOR SCALE THAT WE LOOK AT THE, UH, HAVING DIRECTING CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT THE THIRD PARTY PARTNERSHIPS FOR GREEN SERVICES AND RESOURCES FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
DOING ANY DISCUSSIONS ON US COUNCIL MEMBER FLOOR SCALE.
UM, I JUST WANNA STATE I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, UM, WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW IS COMING FROM, BUT AS A REMINDER, UM, ON BOTH OF OUR BRIDGES THAT WE HAVE, BOTH CENTER STREET AND OVER BY COBB PARKWAY, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE JUMP OFF THAT BRIDGE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES, I FEEL LIKE, SOME KIND OF RESPONSIBILITY SOMEWHERE TO AT LEAST BE ABLE TO DIRECT THEM.
LIKE NOT EXPEND TOO MUCH MONEY, ALTHOUGH I THINK SOME CITIES HAVE LIKE THEIR OWN HOSPITAL.
UM, SO IT'S NOT, UH, FARFETCHED.
BUT, UM, I THINK BEING ABLE TO AT LEAST PROVIDE RESOURCES, LINKS.
UM, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE'S, THEY HAD JUST LIKE LINKS LIKE APPLICATIONS, NOT THAT THEY SPONSOR, BUT UM, I THINK ONE WAS LIKE CALM THE CALM APP.
UM, AND JUST BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE DOESN'T COST US VERY MUCH.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO SAY AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED? YOU REPEAT IT? YES.
THE MOTION WAS JUST TO BRING INFORMATION ABOUT THIRD PARTY RESOURCES FACT OFFER YOU THROW GRANTS IN THERE WHILE YOU'RE EDIT, BUT CONTACT OUR LEGISLATURES TOO.
SO YEAH, WE'RE GONNA DIRECT STAFF TO DO THAT.
MOTIONS ON THE TABLE FOR THAT.
THANK YOU ALL, YOU ALL FOR BRINGING THIS, UH, IMPORTANT TOPIC.
OKAY, LET'S BRING ITEM NUMBER 26, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY PURCHASING AND DONATING A PET CHIP SCANNER TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES.
UM, I THINK MARIANNA HAS TO BE HERE EARLY TOMORROW.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN REMOVE UP HER AGENDA ITEM? UH, NUMBER 29.
CAN WE BRING YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S BEEN, UH, IT'S BEEN, UH, SUGGESTED THAT WE GO AHEAD AND BRING UP ITEM NUMBER 29 AND 30, UH, OR JUST 29 CUZ THERE'S ALL JUST 29 MM-HMM.
[29. Consider and possible action to identify an interim practical solution to install public restrooms at MKP city square park. ~ Miguel A. Zuniga PhD, Council Member]
29 FOR THE, UH, CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO IDENTIFY AN INTERN PRACTICAL SOLUTION TO INSTALL PUBLIC RESTROOMS AT M MKP, UH, CITY SQUARE PARK.AND THIS IS, UH, COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA.
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IF YOU COULD COME UP, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN GONE FOR A WHILE AND BEEN A, BEEN A LONG DAY.SO, UH, THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM.
CAN WE SHOW THE BACKUPS ON THIS? SO THIS IS MOSTLY JUST INFORMATIVE.
UM, CAN WE SEE THE BACKUPS? IS THE PUBLIC SEEING THE BACKUPS? SO, UM, OUR MK MARY KAY PARK IS A FOCAL POINT.
UH, THE ONLY THING NOT THERE IS OUR PUBLIC RESTROOMS FOR COMMUNITY TO USE.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT STAFF HAS AND TOLD ME THAT THERE'S BEEN MONEY, THERE IS MONEY IN THE BUDGET APPROVED, UH, TWO, THREE YEARS BACK MAY MAYBE IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, UM, FOR UPGRADES.
AND SO I WANTED JUST TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMELINE AND WHAT WOULD BE THE DESIGN, WHERE WOULD THE, THE BEST LOCATION POSSIBLY BE? WHAT TYPE OF SECURITY THIS RESTROOM WOULD HAVE.
AND, UM, I DID GET, UH, FEEDBACK THAT, UM, SOMETHING THERE IS SOMETHING PROPOSED AND IT DID LOOK A LOT LIKE WHAT I HAD FOUND, UM, ONLINE.
UM, THE ONLY, UM, LIKE I GUESS, UH, WELL, RESIDENTS NEED THE RESTROOMS DOWN THERE CUZ CUZ THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM THAT COME AND ENJOY THE PARK.
BUT, UM, ONE CONCERN IS, UH, THAT IF IT'S GOING TO BE PUT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PARK AND THE BOUNDARIES, I GUESS ARE VERY SPECIFIC, LIKE WITHIN THE PARK AREA, UM, I DON'T WANT IT IN THERE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARIES SO THAT THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE.
BUT, UH, COULD YOU ALSO, MARIANA, I'LL ASK YOU A QUESTION, GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE THE BEST LOCATION OF, OF THIS MODULAR PORTABLE TYPE UNIT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WHICH I BELIEVE IT'S A VERY NICE UNIT.
UH, THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WOULD BE TO MAYBE PUT IN MORE A BIT OF LANDSCAPE AROUND IT.
SOME FLOWER BEDS OR PLANTS, UH MM-HMM.
MARIA SPINOZA PARKS INTEGRATION DIRECTOR.
SO OUR PARK MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR, BENITO, HAS WALKED THE AREA WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS REPS TO DETERMINE THE BEST LOCATION FOR THESE RESTROOMS. AND THEY'VE IDENTIFIED TWO LOCATIONS, WHICH ARE BOTH OUTSIDE THE PARK.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THE PORTABLE TRAILER DURING 25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS WAS LOCATED.
UM, BUT THAT'S ONE POSSIBLE LOCATION.
AND THE OTHER POSSIBLE LOCATION IS WHERE THE DUMPSTER CURRENTLY IS.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT, WE PLAN TO BRING THE FINAL DESIGN IN THE CONTRACT TO COUNCIL.
IN THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE, WE'VE HAD TO REPOST THE RFQ.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE THE FINAL BID, BUT THE SUBGRADE NOW HAS TO BE, UM, UH, POSTED THROUGH AN RFQ.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE POSTED NEXT WEEK AND FOR A MINIMUM OF 14 DAYS.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF BEFORE THESE RESTROOMS ARE ACTUALLY COME IN.
AND THEN ONCE THEY COME IN, IT WILL BE REALLY QUICK PROCESS FROM THERE.
UM, AND I DID SPEAK WITH BENITO AND WE TALK ABOUT THE FRONT AND LIKE THE VISUAL LOOK OF THESE RESTROOMS AND DID SAY WE COULD PUT SOME FLOWER POTS IN FRONT OF 'EM, BUT IT'D BE NOTHING PLANTED.
IS IT, AND CAN WE GET RACHEL THE IMAGE UP? I, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC CAN NOW I'M PUTTING IN PX FORM AND THEN I HAVE TO DO IT OVER SCREEN.
HAVE WE DECIDED ON A DESIGN ALREADY FOR THIS? THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.
SO WE HAVE NO, SO WE HAVE NOT DECIDED ON A FINAL DESIGN BECAUSE WE HAD TO REBID THE PROJECT.
UH, HOWEVER, WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE VENDOR THAT DID, UM, SET THE BID OKAY.
AND SO ONCE AWARDED, IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE DESIGNS WILL BE READY TO GO.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO, AND AGAIN, I'M SO SORRY TO PROBABLY LOOK AT THE BACKUP CUZ WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE RQ TO COME BACK.
UM, THE ONE THING I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT IS TO MAYBE MATCH WITH US WITH THE BACKUP CREW CENTER.
SO THE BACKUP THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNI GOT ADDED IS VERY SIMILAR, UH, DESIGN TO THE RESTROOMS DESIGNS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.
AND SO THERE'LL BE FIVE DIFFERENT RESTROOMS AND EACH PARK HAS A DIFFERENT DESIGN.
SO THE ONE DOWN AT MARY CAL HARTSON PARK'S GONNA HAVE THAT VERY HISTORICAL FEEL THAT COMPLIMENTS THE CREW BUILDING.
THE ONES AT STABLE CHASE PARK IN GREG CLARK PARK, UH, HAVE A BRIGHT POP TO THEM BECAUSE OF THE SKATE PARKS AND THE SPLASH PADS.
UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE DESIGN IDEAS BEHIND
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THEM.BUT THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THESE BACKUPS.
THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE MOREY DETAIL.
UM, SO THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ABOUT, UM, INTERIM PRACTICAL SOLUTIONS.
UM, SO THIS IS GONNA BE LONG TERM, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
ARE THOSE TEMPORARY? NO, THE, THE ONES ATTACHED ARE A PERMANENT RESTROOM.
SO A TEMPORARY SOLUTION WOULD EITHER BE THE PORTABLE RESTROOMS LIKE WE DO FOR 25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS OR THE ADA STALLS OR SINGLE STALLS.
CAN WE MAKE SURE, I THINK IT'S TDS THAT WE GET 'EM THROUGH.
CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AIR CONDITIONED? YEAH, IF, UH, THE DIRECTION IS FOR US TO GET A PORTABLE RESTROOM DURING THE MONTH AND A HALF THAT WE'RE WAITING TO GET THESE NEW RESTROOMS GOING, UM, WE WOULD DEFINITELY GET THE AIR CONDITIONED ONE LIKE WE DO FOR 25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS, UH, TOTAL FOR THE BOARD DOOR INDOOR STALL, THE ADA STALL AND THE REGULAR STALLS IS ABOUT $12,000 TOTAL PER MONTH.
SO YOU'RE SAYING OKAY CUZ YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, RIGHT? OKAY.
WELL NO, WE'RE GONNA BRING IT TO, OUR GOAL IS TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE.
AND ABOUT HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO CONSTRUCT? UH, WE SPOKE TO THE VENDORS AND THEY'RE READY TO GET GOING AS SOON AS COUNCIL APPROVES.
TO BE A MINIMUM OF THREE MONTHS.
SO, SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT FOUR MONTHS.
SO NUMBERS ARE BRING, THEY'VE GOTTA GO IN THERE AND REDESIGN IT.
REL LOOK AT EVERYTHING MM-HMM.
SO THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, LOOK AT THAT.
SO ORIGINALLY UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE TOLD US, YOU KNOW, 30 TO 60 DAYS, BUT THE MAX WOULD BE FOUR MONTHS.
SO ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES, UH, YOU'LL HAVE RESTROOM, PERMANENT RESTROOMS AT THE PARK WITHIN THREE MONTHS AT THE LATEST, PROBABLY MOST LIKELY A LOT EARLIER.
SO WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO IT IN JUNE.
THAT WAY WE CAN DECIDE ON THE CONCEPT AND THE COLORS AND THE WAY IT LOOKS.
THAT WAY WE VOTE ON IT BY THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS, IT'LL BE READY TO GO FOR CHRISTMAS.
AND THIS MAY BE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD BE CHEAPER IF WE WERE TO TEMPORARILY CLOSE SECTIONS OF THE CREW CENTER ALLOWING FOR THE BATHROOMS TO REMAIN OPEN.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A RESIDENT REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED.
WELL THE CREW CENTER CURRENTLY IS A SHARED FACILITY WITH CAZ MM-HMM
UM, AND AT THIS TIME SINCE CAZ DOES OCCUPY THE BUILDING, MAJORITY OF THE TIME, UH, THE RESTROOMS ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT IF WE WERE TO PUT A DOOR, CUZ YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GO IN THE CREW CENTER THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR AND THEN THERE IS THEIR CENTER DOOR, JUST, I HATE HOW TO DESCRIBE IT, BUT YOU WALK IN AND THERE IS LIKE, YOU CAN GO TO THE RIGHT AND THEY HA THEY HAVE THE KITCHEN AND SOMETHING UPSTAIRS.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PUT SOME SORT OF BLOCK IN THERE INTO THE ACTUAL EVENT CENTER? I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT JUST BASED ON SPACE.
UM, AND ALSO AT CA'S REQUEST, IT'S A REQUEST OF THEIRS NOT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC IN WHEN UM, THEY'RE NOT IN THERE JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF STORED IN THERE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THEIR THANKS.
I WAS JUST THINKING $12,000 TIMES 4 48 BABY.
BUT THEN AGAIN, WHAT WOULD BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE THINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE AIR CONDITION AND BATHROOMS AND I DON'T THINK BENEATH THOSES LOGGED IN, BUT I'M SURE HE'S PROBABLY SCREAMING AT ME THAT IT'S GONNA BE A LOT QUICKER THAN FOUR MONTHS.
SO HE IS PROBABLY SCREAMING AT THE TV RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE GONNA BE BEFORE THE END OF SUMMER? I CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY IT ALL DEPENDS ON ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES AND WE GET GOING, BUT THE VENDOR READY TO MOVE, SO.
SO I'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW MORE.
SO THESE ARE ALREADY BUILT AND THEN THEY'RE JUST TRANSPORTED HERE RIGHT.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SUBGRADE MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WAS THE DELAY? THESE, I GOT A FEW MORE QUESTIONS FROM RE UM, THESE ARE QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS MM-HMM.
SO I HAVE TO ASK THEM HOW MANY, UH, I GUESS F FIXTURES INSIDE THAT THEY CAN USE, LIKE MALE, FEMALE, AND WHETHER IT BE CHANGING ROOM, FAMILY ROOM, DIAPER ROOM.
THE FINAL DESIGNS HAVEN'T BEEN MADE YET.
I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THOSE YET, BUT THERE WILL BE LIKE A WATER, UM, SYSTEM TO REFILL YOUR WATER BOTTLE OUTSIDE ON THESE, I DON'T KNOW YET.
BUT YEAH, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE FINAL DESIGN MM-HMM.
DO WE CHOOSE YES OR NO? WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT THE RESTROOMS TO LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND WHAT FEATURES WE WANT THEM TO HAVE.
THERE'S REALLY COOL ONE WE CAN STICK THE WATER BOTTLE IN.
UM, AND SO WE'VE ASKED FOR THAT ALREADY.
I CAN'T SAY WHAT THEY WILL WITH URGENCY TO HAVE,
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RIGHT? MM-HMM.AND I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL.
SO THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR.
I DON'T PRESENT TO BE SURPRISED.
SO THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHATEVER WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT OR HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, ACTION THAT WE NEED FOR THIS GEN ITEM? OR DO WE ALREADY HAVE THE DIRECTION? WELL, THEY'RE ALREADY BRINGING.
SO I, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM, SINCE THE AGENDA ITEM WAS FOR TEMPORARY RESTROOMS, DO WE NEED TO FURTHER EXPLORE BRINGING IN THE PORTABLE RESTROOMS UNTIL THE PERMANENT RESTROOMS ARE HERE? UM, OR DO WE JUST CONTINUE SINCE WE'RE ALREADY IN MOTION? I, I ONLY MADE THIS ITEM AN AGENDA ITEM TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, TO GET MORE DETAILS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THE PARK.
SO NOW WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY AND NOW IT'S JUST LET'S FIND THE BEST FIT LOCATION.
SO I KNOW THERE'S A COST TO MAYBE CLOSER TO WHERE THE PLUMBING MIGHT BE, UH, OR MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
I WANT WHATEVER IS BEST FOR THE, UM, MK PARK UNDERSTOOD.
[26. Discussion and possible action regarding the City purchasing and donating a pet chip scanner for the Kyle Fire Department. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
BACK TO NOW, UH, GEN ITEM NUMBER 26, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY TO PURCHASING AND DONATING PET CHIP SCANNERS FOR THE KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT.ALRIGHT, I'LL MAKE THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, I, I WAS REACHED OUT FROM A RESIDENT AND SHE ASKED IF THE CITY, ACTUALLY, SHE ASKED, SHE, SHE WANTED TO LIKE, PAY FOR SOME OF THE SCANNER.
AND I SAID, WELL, LET ME TAKE THIS COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO COVER AS FAR AS, UM, PRICE, UM, FOR A SCANNER CHIPPER, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY JUST TO, TO SCAN YOUR ANIMAL TO SEE, UH, IF THEY CAN FIND THE OWNER.
UM, THE REASON WHY I LIKE THIS IDEA IS BECAUSE IT, UM, ALLOWS OUR STAFF THE POSSIBILITY OF NOT HAVING TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO SAN MARCUS TO DROP OFF A DOG.
MAYBE THEY CAN FIND THE OWNER HERE.
UM, AND ALSO THE COUNTY HAS, UM, HAS CONTRIBUTED ONE TO THE FIREHOUSE.
AND SO I THOUGHT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR RESIDENTS NOT TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON 35, THAT IF THE CITY WAS ABLE TO DONATE, UM, OR PROVIDE, I SHOULD SAY, UM, A SKINNER FOR ANOTHER FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, EASIER FOR THE RESIDENTS OVERALL.
THERE'S UIC ON THE LOST DOGS OR LOST PETS PAGES.
HEY, DID YOU GET 'EM SCANNED? AND SO I SPOKE WITH, UH, CHIEF AND HE SAID THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SCAN THE DOGS OR THE CATS, UM, BUT THEY WOULD NEED, UM, A SCANNER FOR THAT.
AND SO WHAT I DID IS I REQUESTED THE SCANNER THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONATED AND, UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO GET A REPLICA.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD FIGHT OVER THE GOOD SCANNER.
SO I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST, UM, TRY TO GET ONE FOR EACH.
UM, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE DISCUSSION ON IT.
WHAT'S THE COST ON THE SCANNER? IT'S IN THE PACKET MATERIAL.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 29.
SO SORRY, SHOULD, OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND SECOND, AND WE HAVE DISCUSSION.
COUNCILMAN BREK, WHY WOULD IT NOT GO TO K P D ANIMAL CONTROL? WELL, WE COULD DO THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF TIME AWAY FROM K P D.
UM, BECAUSE IT SHOULD GO TO ANIMAL, IF WE WENT TO ANIMAL CONTROL, THEY HAVE SET HOURS.
SO IF SOMEBODY HAS A PET THAT THEY FIND AFTER HOURS, THEY COULD TAKE IT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO I'M NOT OPPOSED FOR IT GOING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THEY, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY SINCE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY AGREED TO SCAN IT FOR THE RESIDENCE COUNCIL MEMBER.
HEISER, UH, I MEAN, I'M GONNA VOTE YES TO APPROVE IT.
I MEAN, I, I I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO HAVE IT ON THE TRUCK WITH THEM.
LIKE THE BENEFIT OF THEM HAVING A SCANNER TO ME IS NOT, SO RESIDENTS CAN BRING A DOG TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'S FOR WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS OUT IN THE FIELD AND THEY SEE AN ANIMAL THAT IS CLEARLY WITHOUT ITS HOME, THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PICK IT UP JUST LIKE OUR ANIMAL CONTROL IS.
LIKE THAT TO ME WOULD BE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING AN EXTRA SET OF HANDS OUT IN THE FIELD, GIVEN WE KNOW HOW CONSTRAINED OUR OWN ANIMAL CONTROL DEPARTMENT ALREADY IS.
BUT IF SOMEONE BRINGS IT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEN THEY CAN TAKE IT BACK.
WHEREAS IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PICKS IT UP, IT NOW BECOMES IRRESPONSIBILITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASSUME.
MOTIONS, MOTIONS ON THE TABLE.
OKAY, SO MOTION TO APPROVE $390.
I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE IN HIS SECOND.
UH, BUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS BRADSHAW'S QUESTION, IT, IT DOES SEEM,
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SEEM REASONABLE.LIKE WHY WOULDN'T THE COW POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR ANIMAL CONTROL HAVE A SCANNER? AND MAYBE CHIEF COULD ANSWER THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, MOST OF THE DANGEROUS CALLS OR THE LOOSE DOGS, DO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COME OUT OR IS IT THE POLICE? AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, CUZ WE LIKE THOSE GUYS.
IT, IT IS OUR POLICE OFFICERS, UH, OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, I THINK WE HAVE FOUR OF THE, UH, SCANNER DEVICES.
THE, WE'RE ABLE TO GET 'EM FOR ABOUT $240 FOR THE, FOR THE KIND THAT WE PURCHASE AND USE.
UH, THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO BOTH OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE ON DUTY.
THEY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE STORED SO THEY CAN GO PICK ONE UP AND, AND CHECK A DOG IF SOMEBODY BRINGS ONE TO THE PD.
SO I HOPE I'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO GET A DONATION TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN CASE THAT ANIMAL CONTROL IS NOT AVAILABLE SO THEY CAN SCAN THE PET.
SO CURRENTLY IN BUTTA, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SCANS DOGS.
AND SO SOMEBODY REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, HEY, THIS IS WHAT BUTTA IS DOING, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO IT? AND IN THAT PROCESS, I LEARNED THAT THERE WAS ONE DONATED BY THE COUNTY TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE, AND, AND THEN DO WE KNOW OF HOW MANY, AND I KNOW IT'S JUST 300 BUCKS.
UM, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY DOCS GO TO, HOW MANY PEOPLE GO TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? NO, I THINK, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE PROMOTED.
LIKE RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ONE.
SO THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS, IS IS NEW.
AND SO, I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH SAYING NO, I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT HERE TO SEE IF WE WERE INTERESTED.
THAT WOULD GIVE SOME RELIEF TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT I WOULD THINK SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO SCAN DOGS WHEN PEOPLE COULD TAKE THEM TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WELL, IS THERE ANY WAY SINCE THEY WILL BE SERVICING TO
UH, IF, IF THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ONE, IF THEY HAVEN'T EVEN PURCHASED ONE FOR THEMSELVES UNLESS THEY'RE WILLING TO PURCHASE ONE FOR THEMSELVES, I'LL MA WE'LL MATCH IT.
I I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, DO YOU FIND THAT HELPFUL CHIEF, DO YOU THINK YOU'LL BE HELPFUL FOR THEM TO HAVE A, A PET SCANNER? BE HONEST WITH US.
LET'S GET HIM ANOTHER FIRE HOSE.
COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW, LET'S GAME GET GENERATED.
CHIEF, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO WITH THAT MONEY THAT WOULD HELP ANIMAL CONTROL INSTEAD ANOTHER SCAN? UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL ALWAYS CERTAINLY MAKE THE BEST USE OF THE FUNDS AND PURCHASE EQUIPMENT NECESSARY.
SO I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD POINT THIS YEAR.
UH, EVERY YEAR WE BRING BACK A BUDGET THAT WILL GET US THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT AND KENNELS AND THINGS THAT WE NEED.
UM, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT RIGHT NOW.
UH, I THINK IF YOU DO ADD, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, IF YOU DO WANT TO GIVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ONE OF THESE AND THOSE FIRE OFFICIALS AT THE FIRE STATION ARE WILLING TO, TO INVEST THE TIME, SERVE THAT CITIZEN, LOOK UP THE INFORMATION THAT MAY BE IN A DATABASE BASED ON THE SCANNING OF A CHIP, AND THEN ASSIST IN THE RETURN OF THAT DOG TO THE, TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNER.
IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO, THEN OBVIOUSLY THIS MAY REDUCE A CALL THAT COMES INTO OUR DISPATCH CENTER FOR AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER OR A POLICE OFFICER.
DO I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE? YES.
DO I THINK THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S ADVERTISED RIGHT NOW AND IT'S NOT, OBVIOUSLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NOT ADVERTISING THAT SERVICE.
I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT HOW WILLING ARE THEY TO INVEST THE TIME AND EFFORT TO FIND THE OWNER, TRACK DOWN PHONE NUMBERS, AND KEEP THE DOG IN A SAFE PLACE WHILE ALL THIS IS GOING ON.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA GENERALLY WANNA STICK AROUND.
SO IN THE TIME THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT RUNS IT THROUGH THE COMPUTERS, FINDS THE PHONE NUMBERS, MAKES THE PHONE CALLS AND THE PEOPLE ARE AT WORK IN AUSTIN, THEY'LL BE HERE AT FIVE.
WILL THEY KEEP IT SOMEWHERE SAFE AND IN A KENNEL? AND IT DOESN'T INVOLVE US? I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVEN'T ASKED 'EM ABOUT HOW THEY INTEND TO OPERATE.
SO I WOULDN'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD KEEP THE DOG AT ALL.
THAT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
THE POLICE, US POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE A ANIMAL CONTROL.
SO, UH, IF THEY'RE GONNA CALL US ANYWAY, WE HAVE SCANNERS, THEY MIGHT AS WELL JUST CALL US AND LET US PUT IT IN A FIGHT IN AN ANIMAL CONTROLLED TRUCK OR A KENNEL OR A CAGE OR SOMETHING SAFE.
OTHERWISE, WELL, THEY'RE GONNA CALL US ANYWAY.
IF THEY'RE GONNA CALL US ANYWAY, THEN WE CAN GET THERE AND FIND THE OWNER AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
NOBODY WANTS TO SAY THIS CHIEF.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A WASTE OF MONEY.
MAY I? WHY? WASN'T GONNA SAY THAT.
WE GOT A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR AN APPROVAL FOR PURCHASING THIS PET SCANNER TO, UM, TO, FOR THE COLLEGE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
DO WE HAVE, WAS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND BY SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES? YES.
FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY? YES.
ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? OKAY, THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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THEN YOU HAVE TO SAY NO.OH, WELL I WAS LETTING YOU GUYS SAY YES FIRST.
ALSO FOR THE RECORD, THERE HAD BEEN A SECOND.
IT WAS MOVED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA AND SECONDED BY FLORES KALE.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S, UH, CONTINUE ON.
[30. Consider and possible action to amend gas station ordinance to prohibit excess fuel stations within lot size and building scales. ~ Miguel A. Zuniga PhD, Council Member]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 30.UM, CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND GAS STATION ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT EXCESS FUEL STATIONS WITHIN THE LOT SIZE AND BUILDING SPACE.
THIS IS COUNCILMAN ZIKA'S ITEM.
CAN I GET THE IMAGES ON THIS ONE TOO? TWO.
SO THE PURPOSE BEHIND THIS AGENDA ITEM, AND I'LL TRY TO BE AS CLEAR AS I CAN, IS THAT WE HAVE A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION ON ONE 50 AND LAYMAN.
AND THERE'S A REALLY NICE DEVELOPMENT GOING UP.
IT'S, UM, I'M TXB I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY NICE AND ATTRACTIVE.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, HEAVY TRAFFIC THERE.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO ONE ENTRANCE THAT WILL LEAD YOU INTO LAYMAN, THE OTHER ONE ON ONE 50.
BUT THERE'S NOT A, UM, THERE'S NOT A UM, UM, I GUESS AN ACCESS OFF.
THERE'S NOT AN EASY ACCESS OFF.
SO MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, WHEN VEHICLES ARE GONNA GO INTO THE GAS STATION, THEY HAVE TO CROSS OVER THREE LANES, MAYBE, MAYBE FOUR LANES.
AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY REAL CON REAL CONCERN.
UH, ANOTHER, UH, ONE IS THAT AS THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN, UM, SORT OF GETTING TO THE FINISH, I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE EIGHT BEAMS. AND UNDERNEATH THESE BEAMS, IF, IF FUEL PUMPS ARE CENTERED RIGHT AT THE CENTER, UH, YOU COULD END UP WITH EIGHT FUEL PUMPS THERE.
UM, HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE REAL ISSUE.
THE REAL ISSUE IS THAT IT'S LOOKS REALLY CONGESTED IN THERE.
AND BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE TWO WAYS INTO THIS, UM, NEW, NEW GAS STATION, UM, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT FROM A DISTANCE, I COULD, UM, I I STARTED TO VISUALIZE THAT IT'S OUT.
IT SEEMS TO BE OUT OF SCALE AND, UH, THE BUILDING ITSELF FROM THE BLUEPRINTS IS ONLY, IT'S ABOUT 150 FEET, BUT THE BEAM, THE BEAMS THAT ARE UM, THAT WILL HAVE THE, THE GAS PUMPS IS TWO ARE 210 FEET.
SO I CHECKED WITH WILL AND I SAID, WHAT'S GOING, WHAT'S GOING TO, WHAT'S GOING IN THERE? HE SAID, WELL, IT'S A GAS STATION.
UM, AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY LIMIT ON HOW MANY PUMPS CAN BE PUT INTO ANY RETAIL AREA.
SO IN THEORY, IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO, THEY COULD PROBABLY ADD UP TO 12, FOUR MORE BEAMS ADD UP TO 12.
SO THEN YOU WOULD HAVE 24, 24, UM, GAS LINES.
SO I WAS WONDERING, BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO IN A FLOOD ZONE AREA, IF WE COULD LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE WHEN GAS STATIONS ARE GOING TO BE BUILT AND MAYBE, UM, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE ABOUT THE QUANTITY OF GAS PUMPS WHEN WE'RE BUILDING GAS STATIONS IN AREAS THAT ARE FLOOD ZONES AND WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET ON AND OFF INTO THIS, UM, TYPE OF STATION.
UM, AND THEN I GUESS THE THIRD THING WOULD BE, DOES IT MATCH THE SCALE OF THE, OF THE BUILDING ITSELF? WHICH, UM, THE, IN OUR ORDINANCE, IT DOESN'T REALLY LIMIT THEM.
AND, BUT I CAN'T MAKE IT JUST ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I COULD SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONGESTIONS IN HERE AND IF THERE WERE FEWER GAS PUMPS HERE, UM, I THINK THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE A BETTER PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, FROM A, FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT OF THIS REALLY CONGESTED AREA.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK, UM,
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ABOUT SOMETHING ABOUT TIGHTENING UP THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT RELATES TO, UH, MORE FUEL PUMPS PARLEY.SO IF BKS WERE TO COME WITH THE 25, 30 STATIONS, WE'RE GONNA SAY NO IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.
YOU CERTAIN LOCATIONS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M ASSUMING FIRST THAT WE WILL HAVE A BUILDING INSPECTOR TO COME AND APPROVE THAT THE PLANS FOR THESE GAS STATIONS HAVE BEEN WORKING OUT OR NOT, NOT AND OR NOT APPROVE.
AND TWO, I DO NOT WANNA PUT MORE RESTRICTIONS AND GAS STATIONS AND NUMBER OF PUMPS THEY'RE GONNA BRING AS WE KEEP GROWING AND GROWING.
AND I DON'T WANNA SAY NO TO BS IF THEY WERE TO COME WITH 30 PUMPS.
SO THAT, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WELL, LET'S LOOK AT ONE 50 RIGHT NOW THAT IS VERY, VERY HIGH DENSITY.
THAT'S VERY, VERY HIGH TRAFFIC.
SO IF WE'RE SAYING WE WANT TO REGULATE HOW MANY PUMPS ARE IN THERE, THEN IMAGINE THE BACKLOG OF CARS TRYING TO GET IN THERE JUST TO GET FUEL VERSUS HAVING 12 PUMPS VERSUS FIVE PUMPS.
CUZ YOU HAVE TO, JUST LIKE WITH ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT, YOU GOTTA LOOK 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND, AND THIS IS A CORNER SPOT AREA.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR CONCERN IS, THE, THE WAY IT LOOKS OR IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S, THE SAFETY'S NOT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN AND OUT.
BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TURN LEFT TO GO IN THERE, UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH, BUT THE TRAFFIC THAT'S COMING TO 35, UH, AND THEN THE CORNER ON THE SIDE, UH, IT WOULD JUST HAVE TO MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT THERE'S ALSO A GAS STATION THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER.
SO IF WE START REGULATING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS MANY PUMPS, THEN WE MIGHT BE SETTING OURSELVES UP WHEN THE POPULATION GETS 70 TO 80,000.
UM, IN THIS AREA WE'RE NOT ALLOWING MORE THAN FIVE PUMPS AND IT, I KNOW THESE BUSINESSES MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SURVIVE OFF OF THAT CUZ THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THEY GET THEIR FUEL FROM NOT ONLY JUST CHIPS AND SODAS.
SO, UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE CONCERN CUZ IT'S RIGHT ON ONE 50 WITH THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, LIKE IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS, THOSE PUMPS ARE GONNA BE USED QUITE OFTEN AND IT'S GOING TO, UH, BENEFIT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE LEAVING, UH, TO GET ON 35 ON THAT ERROR.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BRIEFLY REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED WHEN WE, UM, APPROVE THE ORDINANCE REGARDING THE AMOUNT OF GAS STATIONS WE HAVE VERSUS THE AMOUNT WE NEEDED.
AND I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE 2.5, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE MORE THAN HALF, WE HAVE DOUBLE ALMOST WHAT WE NEED.
UM, BUT ALL THAT ASIDE, I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST ABOUT LIMITING PUMPS.
I THINK IT'S ALSO ABOUT SAFETY AND PUTTING THESE GAS STATIONS IN AREAS, UM, WHERE IT'S NOT GONNA CAUSE EXTRA CONGESTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WROTE A NOTE FOR THIS AND I STILL REACHED OUT AND TALKED TO THE, TO THE DEVELOPER AND, AND I'M EXCITED AND I'M HOPING THEY BRING A GOOD FOOD THERE.
BUT ANYBODY THAT CAN LOOK AT THAT PICTURE CAN SEE THE KIND OF CONGESTION THAT'S GONNA GO THERE.
NOT JUST OFF OF LAYMAN BUT ALSO OFF OF ONE 50 AS, AS OF NOW THAT WHOLE ROAD ALL THE WAY TO 35 GETS BACKED UP COMPLETELY WITH TRAFFIC.
SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE WANNA LIMIT AND TO, TO BE HONEST, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY NO TO BUCKY'S.
I'D LIKE TO THINK, BUT BUCKY'S ISN'T GONNA GO IN THIS LOCATION.
SO IT'S ALSO ABOUT BEING THOUGHTFUL WHEN WE STICK A, YOU KNOW, A GAS STATION SOMEWHERE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN A SAFE PLACE, THEN IT'S NOT GONNA INCREASE THE TRAFFIC.
UM, AND THEN IT MA IT MAKES SENSE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF OR IF ANY REGULATIONS WE COULD, UM, CREATE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN TO ANYBODY ANYWHERE IN KYLE, EAST, WEST, SOUTH, WHATEVER.
UM, CUZ I, I, THAT'S MY FEAR IS IT'S, IT'S GONNA CAUSE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND A LOT OF SAFETY ISSUES.
NOT TO MENTION THAT IT ISN'T A FLOODPLAIN, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD TO ELEVATE IT, I KNOW THEY HAD TO RAISE IT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT.
AND SO IN THE EVENT THAT EVER FLOODS, THAT COULD BE A REAL, UH, EPA ISSUE WITH THE GAS TANKS UNDER THE GROUND.
UM, I DID LOOK UP THEIR OTHER, UH, LOCATIONS IN AUSTIN.
THEY HAVE A LOT FEWER, SO THEY, THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF OUR ORDINANCE, PUT MORE IN THERE, WHICH I, I BELIEVE THEY'RE A VERY, UH, COMMUNITY FRIENDLY COMPANY.
THEY'RE GONNA DO VERY WELL HERE.
BUT THEY DID TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR ORDINANCE BECAUSE IN OTHER, IN OTHER LOCATIONS THAT THEY HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE THIS MANY.
AND ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR COSTCO, ANY OF THE OTHER GAS STATIONS WE HAVE IN TOWN, THIS WAS THE ONE THAT HAS, THAT IS COMING WITH THE MOST FUEL PUMPS AT A VERY HIGHLY CONGESTED,
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UM, CORNER.SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE THAT COSTCO ONLY HAS FOUR PUMPS, HAS A HUGE PARKING LOT, THIS LITTLE UH, BIT, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA HAVE 16 PUMPS AND IT'S LESS THAN A QUARTER ACRE OR LESS THAN A HALF ACRE.
WHAT, UH, WHAT DIRECTION ARE WE GONNA WANNA GO ON THIS? WE DON'T NEED ANY DIRECTION.
WELL IT SAYS HERE TO CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND THE GAS STATION ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT ACCESS.
MAYBE IF, OOPS, JUST A THOUGHT IF HE WANTS TO DIRECT STAFF TO JUST BRING BACK SOME IDEAS.
THIS IS DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA DO IT AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT, IT JUST MEANS TO BRING BACK, RIGHT? THERE'S THINGS THAT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS CUZ WE ARE NOT PLANNING, WE DON'T DO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND SO I THINK THERE IS NO HARM IN MAYBE SEEING WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE.
I KNOW WE, WE READ AN ARTICLE WHERE, UH, A CITY DID LIMIT ITS SIZE OF PUMPS.
UM, AND SO IS DOES IT EVEN MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT HERE IN KYLE? THAT IS.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK WHAT DID, UM, WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROVED, AND THIS IS IN THE PAST, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GONNA GO BACK TO CHANGE THIS, IT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOWED, BUT WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF UH, HOW MANY FUEL PUMPS THEY WERE GONNA HAVE ON SITE? DID THEY MENTION IN, DID WHAT? DID WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME HOW MANY WERE GONNA BE INSTALLED? OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER ISGA, THIS IS WILL ATKINSON, UH, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
I DON'T REMEMBER THAT SPECIFIC ASPECT OF THE CONVERSATION, IF THAT WAS A PORTION OF IT.
UM, WHEN AC WHEN THEY REZONE THE PROPERTY AND THEY WERE TALKING WITH US, THEY HAD SAID WE WANT TO DO A FEW, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE WITH A, WITH A DELI AND SOME OUTDOOR SEATING AND THEY EVEN HAVE A RAINWATER CATCHMENT SYSTEM, RIGHT? AND WE OF COURSE AT THE CONVENIENCE STORE, IT'S PRETTY COMMON TO HAVE THE CANOPY WITH, WITH FUEL PUMPS.
SO, UH, EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE IS WITHIN CODE.
IT MEETS OTHER REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SOME, THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AT THE BACK IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT THEY'VE PULLED IT OUT OF IT AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, IT MEETS ALL THE SETBACKS.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE TO UPDATE THEIR LICENSING THROUGH THE STATE FOR THE, FOR THE BURIED FUEL TANKS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT AS WELL.
HAS TO MEET FIRE CODE, UM, HAS TO MEET OUR LANDSCAPING CODE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO GET A TECH STOP PERMIT FOR THE DRIVEWAY OFF OF, DIRECTLY OFF OF ONE 50.
RIGHT? SORRY, ARE THEY GONNA CUT INTO THAT ONE MORE? UM, WILL, LIKE ARE THEY GONNA DO, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO UH, ADD LIKE SOME SORT OF, UM, ACCESS OFF OR IS CUZ YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BRIDGE THAT YOU HAVE A BRIDGE THERE AND SOME SORT OF GATE.
HOW WIDE, HOW WIDE WILL THAT OPENING BE FOR? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE RAILING ON THE BRIDGE? RIGHT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO CUT IT, UH, AND REMOVE THAT BRIDGE AS WIDE AS AN TUBE TO GET FROM THE TEXTILE APPROVAL.
UM, SO WE'RE ALSO GONNA LOSE THAT SIDEWALK, RIGHT? FOR, CUZ I SEE PEOPLE THAT USE THE SIDEWALK ON ONE 50 THROUGH THERE WHERE THE SIDEWALK INTERSECTS WITH THAT.
WITH THE DRIVEWAY CUT, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE 88 COMPLIANCE.
SO IT'S STILL GONNA BE LEVEL AND WHAT HAVE YOU CROSSING THAT.
SO THE SIDEWALK WILL STILL BE THERE AS PART OF THE DRIVEWAY PERMIT.
SO WON'T TRAFFIC GO THROUGH THAT? WON'T IT WON'T, WON'T, WON'T THE ROAD BE BUILT INTO THAT SIDEWALK? WON'T THE SIDEWALK BE CUT? UH, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I SAW FROM, I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT IF THE, IF THEY'RE GONNA CUT THE SIDEWALK WHERE WE STILL HAVE CARS TO BE ABLE TO, RIGHT.
HOW WIDE, I GUESS YOU'RE SAYING HOW WIDE IS IT GOING TO BE FOR THESE CARS TO GET THROUGH AND HOW MUCH OF THE SIDEWALK WE'RE LOSING THE SIDEWALK, HOW MUCH SIDEWALK LOSS IS GONNA HAPPEN? HMM.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, I THINK THAT FOR CARS THAT GO INTO THE GAS STATION, THE, THERE HAS TO BE NO MORE SIDEWALK THERE, RIGHT? YEAH, OF COURSE.
SO NOW PEDESTRIANS CAN'T RIDE A BIKE OR WALK WITHOUT STOPPING.
WATCHING FOR, FOR A VEHICLE COMING INTO THE GAS STATION.
YOU DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHENEVER A DRIVEWAY INTERSECTS WITH A SIDEWALK WITHOUT QUESTION.
BUT THE SIDEWALK AND THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING OF THAT DRIVEWAY WILL STILL EXIST.
IT, IT'LL JUST BE MANAGED APPROPRIATELY.
UM, AND WHAT HAVE YOU FOR THE TECH STOP PERMIT THAT TECHO HAS TO APPROVE.
SO TECH STOP'S WELL AWARE THAT WE REQUIRE SIDEWALKS.
WHAT THERE'S A SIDEWALK EXISTING THERE RIGHT NOW AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE THE TWO PORTIONS OF THE SIDEWALK INTERSECTING WITH THAT DRIVEWAY PERMIT.
SO LET'S HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL AND THE REVIEW OF IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE, THE MINIMUM WIDTH FOR THAT DRIVEWAY PERMIT, BUT IT WILL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR A VEHICLE GOING EACH WAY WITH ADEQUATE, UH, ROOM.
AND DID YOU WANT MAKE A MOTION TO HALF STAFF? SEE, WAIT, WAIT FOR WHAT? I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE I JUST WANTED THE ORDINANCE TO BE
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REVISITED.MAYBE SEE WHERE WE CAN, UM, MAKE IT MORE CONSERVATIVE MOVING FORWARD WHEN LOCATIONS LIKE THIS ARE GOING TO BE RETAILED WITH GAS STATIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE EXCESSIVE PUMPS.
SO WOULD YOU NEED THAT IN A MOTION? OKAY.
YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION? WELL I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RE-LOOK AT THE, THIS, UH, ORDINANCE TO SEE WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF LIMIT BASED ON SCALE AND INTERSECTION WITH GAS FOR GAS PUMPS.
MOTIONS ON THE TABLE FOR CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT THE SCALE AND ALSO THE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT REFERENCES WHAT YOUR, UH, YOUR ITEM IS, RIGHT? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FLORES.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE MOTION? OKAY, THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
CAN YOU ASK AYE AND MAY 1ST? YES.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE IT FOUR TO THREE.
LITERALLY WHAT HAPPENED? SAME THING ACTUALLY.
PARSLEY, UH, HEISER AND BRADSHAW VOTED NO.
UH, NO EXECUTIVE ITEMS. UH, DO I CORRECT? OKAY.
DO I WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? YES.