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[I. Call Meeting to Order]
IT'S TUESDAY, AUGUST THE 15TH, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
UH, NEXT UP IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.MAYOR, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING ON JULY 29TH.
ALSO FOR SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FOR AUGUST 1ST AND THE REGULAR MEETING FOR THE SAME DATE.
I SECOND ALL MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AND THE AGENDAS THERE.
DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
ZERO.NEXT UP IS CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.
AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO SO.
UH, WE DO ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, AND WE ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
SO I HAVE A FEW FOLKS REGISTERED.
MY NAME IS ANNA MARTINEZ BOWLING, AND I AM A RESIDENT OF KYLE, AN ATTORNEY HERE IN HAYES COUNTY.
I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL WITH AN ART DEGREE.
AND ART IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
SO, WHEN I HEARD THE CITY OF KYLE HAD CREATED AN ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION, I WAS VERY EXCITED.
HOWEVER, OUR STUDENTS STARTED TO HEAR RUMBLINGS.
SO I LISTENED TO SOME OF THE PAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING TAPES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ALL THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS FROM THE COMMISSION IS SOME PUBLIC ART, LIKE A STATUTE SOMEWHERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND COUNCILWOMAN FLORES KAIL NOTED THAT SHE DIDN'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT.
HAVING WORKED ON CIVIL BOARDS, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THESE THINGS TAKE TIME.
I WAS IMPRESSED AT HOW MUCH THE COMMISSION GOT DONE IN SUCH A SHORT TIME.
I COUNTED EIGHT OR MORE PROJECTS.
COUNCIL APPROVED PROJECTS SEVEN TO ZERO, AND IT'S AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF WORK TO GET DONE BETWEEN JANUARY AND JULY.
IF COUNCIL JUST WANTS RECOMMENDATIONS ON PUTTING UP STATUTES, THERE'S NO NEED FOR A COMMISSION.
GET A TASK FORCE TOGETHER, OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT.
IF THAT'S THE ONLY TYPE OF ART COUNCIL WANTS TO APPROVE, IT WILL BE A ONE-TIME THING AND DONE.
UH, EVEN THAT PROJECT WOULD TAKE TIME, MONEY, AND A HUGE AMOUNT OF EFFORT BY THE TASK FORCE.
AND IN MY OPINION, WOULD NECESSITATE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
ARTISTS SHOULD REPRESENT IDEAS.
THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE INVITED TO VOTE, AND THE WINNING SCULPTURE OR SCULPTURES WERE THEN CREATED AND INSTALLED, WHICH COSTS MONEY.
A TASK FORCE CAN GET INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT IT TAKES TO COME UP WITH A BUDGET.
AN ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION, ON THE OTHER HAND, WORKS TO BRING THE CITIZENS TOGETHER TO SHOW OFF THEIR CULTURE HOW MANY DIFFERENT CULTURES ARE REPRESENTING KYLE.
IF YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT, BUT IF YOU DON'T, IT TAKES TIME AND WORK TO GATHER THAT DATA.
ONCE WE GET THE DATA, THEN WE CAN PLAN HOW BEST TO REPRESENT ALL THE CITIZENS OF KYLE.
ART INCLUDES PAINTINGS, SCULPTURES, MUSIC, DANCE, CRAFTS, POETRY, UH, TEXTILES, QUILTS, POTTERY, JEWELRY, AND THE THE LIST GOES ON.
SO AN ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION IS WHAT GOT ME EXCITED TO WORK AS A VOLUNTEER.
AND MY IDEA OF A GREAT COMMUNITY IS ONE, BRIMMING WITH ART AND CULTURE.
NO HAVE HEARTED ATTEMPTS, INCLUSIVITY, DIVERSITY, AND COMMUNITY.
PLEASE DON'T TAKE THE CULTURAL OUT OF THE COMMISSION.
GET COMMUNITY INPUT FROM ARTISTS AND COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES, BECAUSE FROM THE LOOKS OF IT, AND I REALLY MEAN NO DISRESPECT, SOME MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL NEED MORE EDUCATION ON WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AN ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
SORRY I TALKED SO FAST, BUT 10 MINUTES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M A RESIDENT OF KYLE, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A MEMBER OF THE NONPROFIT BOARD PRESERVATION, PRESERVATION ASSOCIATES, INCORPORATED.
AND I WANTED TO INVITE YOU ALL OUT TO AN EVENT WE'RE HAVING AT THE LIBRARY TOMORROW NIGHT AT 6:00 PM ON THE HISTORY OF KYLE.
IT IS MEMORIES OF KYLE, REMINISCENCES OF TWO SISTERS, TDA WORD, BARTON, AND JANE WORD, KIRK KIRKHAM.
WE'RE GONNA SHOW THEM SOME PICTURES TO SPUR THEIR MEMORIES OF GROWING UP AND KYLE, AND LISTEN TO THEM TALK FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.
AND SO WE INVITE EVERYBODY OUT TO JOIN US.
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AM GONNA HAVE TO STOP SITTING NEXT TO MRS. CHAP.MY NAME IS LILA KNIGHT AND I'M, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED ON ABOUT THIS AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 23, REGARDING A CONTRACT FOR REAL ESTATE BROKER SERVICES.
NUMBER ONE, YOU'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME, TOO MUCH MONEY ON PROPERTY.
BUT SECONDLY, UH, THIS ITEM LACKS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TRANSPARENCY.
I WENT THROUGH OUR RFPS AND JUST RECENTLY YOU'VE DONE AN R F P FOR SURVEYING SERVICES, ROTATION LIST, CIVIL ENGINEERING SERVICES, ROTATION LIST, GEOTECHNICAL AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, TESTING SERVICES, ROTATION LIST.
THIS JUST SELECTING ONE PERSON BECAUSE THEY'VE WORKED FOR YOU IN THE PAST, EXCUSE ME, FOR US, IS NOT A ALWAYS A GOOD REASON TO KEEP USING THEM.
IT SHOWS FAVORITISM TO ONE FIRM.
AND REALLY WHAT Y'ALL SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IS GETTING INDEPENDENT APPRAISALS OF ALL THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU WANT TO PURCHASE.
ALSO, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LITTLE CLEANUP ITEMS, UM, ON THAT AGREEMENT.
ON PAGE THREE, THE, UH, ADDRESS FOR THE CITY MANAGER IS GIVEN AS 1 0 1 0 5 NORTH BRUSHY STREET IN KYLE.
UM, ACTUALLY THE LEANER CITY HALL IS LOCATED AT 1 0 5 NORTH BRUSHY STREET,
SO YOU MIGHT WANNA CHANGE THAT ADDRESS SO THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THE NOTICES.
AND THEN SECONDLY, THERE'S NO TERMINATION DATE OF THIS AGREEMENT, SO I GUESS IT'S JUST IN PERPETUITY.
AND THEN SINCE I STILL HAVE TIME, UM, I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, SINCE Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT, UM, MODERATORS AND PARTICIPANTS IN THE DIALOGUES FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS SHOULD NOT BE CANDIDATES FOR OFFICE.
I, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER IN A YEAR WHERE THE MAYOR IS UP FOR REELECTION, LETTING THE CITY MANAGER DO THE STATE OF THE CITY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR AS WELL.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
AND I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN HIS ABILITY TO DO THAT.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS MICHAEL SHANKS.
I THINK THAT WAS RACHEL SHANKS.
SORRY, MY, I KNOW MY R'S LOOK LIKE
I REPRESENT A PROPERTY OWNER HERE IN KYLE, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, TWO, REGARDING THE PIPELINE SETBACKS.
WHILE I WISH THAT WE WERE REMOVING THE SETBACKS ALTOGETHER FOR REASONS OF THE EASEMENTS WERE REQUIRED FOR THE KINDER WARREN PIPELINE IN 2019.
AND YOU GUYS ENACTED THIS CODE IN 2020 AFTER LANDOWNERS WERE COMPENSATED FOR A 50 FOOT EASEMENT, NOT A 200 BY 200 FOOT SETBACK, LEAVING EVERY LANDOWNER WITH A KINDER MORGAN PIPELINE EASEMENT SETBACK ON THEIR PROPERTY, HAVING TO FIGHT FOR ANY SORT OF COMPENSATION BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANY SORT OF BUILDING OR CONSTRUCTION AND HAVE LOST SIGNIFICANT VALUE IN THEIR PROPERTY.
I'M HAPPY THAT WE ARE AT LEAST REDUCING THIS TO BE BETTER FOR THESE LANDOWNERS.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE PERSPECTIVE OF THIS SETBACK IS BURDENING THESE LANDOWNERS 100%.
AND YOU HAVE MANY PROPERTY AND DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THIS PIPELINE THAT HAD THEIR ENTITLEMENTS IN PLACE, AND YOU HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO BUILD IN THIS SETBACK WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.
AND SO IT SEEMS VERY UNFAIR THAT ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE HOMES RIGHT AGAINST THESE EASEMENTS.
BUT ANY LANDOWNER THAT DIDN'T RUSH TO GET THEIR ENTITLEMENTS IN PLACE IS NOW AFFECTED BY THE SETBACK IN YOUR QUOTE CODE.
UH, NEXT UP VANESSA WESTBROOK PROPERTY DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THIS PIPELINE THAT HAVE THEIR ENTITLEMENTS IN.
BEFORE I WROTE THAT
I AM A RESIDENT OF KYLE, A COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER, A TAXPAYER AND A VOTER THAT GREAT AMERICAN BARBARA JORDAN SAID, IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE, A PRIVILEGE THAT MUST BE EARNED.
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AND ONCE EARNED, THERE IS AN OBLIGATION TO DO SOMETHING GOOD WITH IT.WITH ALL OF THE NEGATIVITY HAPPENING IN COMMUNITIES NEAR AND FAR FROM US, OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN EAGER TO HOST DIALOGUE EVENTS, ORGANIZE OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE THE DIFFERENT CULTURES OF THE PEOPLE HERE IN THIS CITY, AND PROVIDE EVENTS TO POINT OUT WHAT SIMILARITIES WE SHARE.
I WAS GONNA BRING TO YOU AND I LEFT IT AT HOME, THE FIRST PADDLE THAT I RECEIVED AT THE PEACE AND PROGRESS EVENT IN JUNE OF 2020.
YOU SEE THAT PEACE AND PROGRESS WAS SORT OF A HEALING TOOL FOR OUR CITY.
AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE HORRIBLE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD THAT ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY EVERYONE WAS HAVING ISSUES WITH.
15 PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE CITY OF KYLE WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER TO SERVE ON THIS PANEL.
AND IT WAS TO LOOK AT SOCIAL JUSTICE HERE AND FAR AWAY.
AND WHAT COULD WE DO IN OUR COMMUNITY TO EITHER HELP OR EVEN ELIMINATE IF WE COULD.
MUCH WAS LEARNED FROM THAT EVENT THAT WAS PLANNED OVER SEVERAL MONTHS.
AND IT INVOLVED SEVERAL CITIZENS.
PEACE AND PROGRESS DIALOGUE WAS SPONSORED BY FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER DEX ELLISON WITH THAT FIRST EVENT AND OTHERS TO FOLLOW.
THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENT WAS THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE AND THE TOPICS OR THE ISSUES.
THE MODERATOR WAS THE GUIDE ON THE SIDE AND THE CITIZENS ON THAT DESK WERE THE STARS ON THE STAGE.
THE PEACE AND PROGRESS SCENARIO INCLUDED A DIVERSE GROUP, HARD TOPICS, AND A SKILLED MODERATOR.
WELL, I'LL, EXCEPT FOR ONE, THE PEACE AND PROGRESS COMMUNITY DIALOGUE WAS NOT ABOUT THE ENJOYMENT OF THE NOVICE MODERATORS WHO TOOK AWAY FROM ENGAGING THE CITIZENS ON THE PANEL AND GETTING THEM TO TALK ABOUT THEIR THOUGHTS ON QUESTIONS.
BUT IT WAS TO FOCUS ON THIS IDEA OF ISSUES THAT PEOPLE TEND TO SHY AWAY FROM THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER SUMMARIZED THE EVENT THE NEXT DAY AS BEING THOUGHT PROVOKING.
WELL, MOST OF THEM WERE PUT IN THE NEWSPAPER.
YOU KNOW, COME TO THINK OF IT.
MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS COMMUNITY LATELY AND HOW POSITIVE WE'VE BEEN ARTISTICALLY CULTURAL LOOKING AT WORKING TOGETHER.
SO I THINK WE WANNA CONTINUE FOCUSING ON THAT.
HOW CAN WE AS A COMMUNITY, WORK TOGETHER TO DO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO, TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS INCLUDED? I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS QUOTE FROM THAT GREAT AMERICAN ELEANOR ROOSEVELT.
THINK AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE OF YOURSELF, BUT THINK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE OF OTHERS.
I'M A FOURTH GENERATION KYLE RESIDENT, VOTER STUDENT AND COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER.
BASED ON THE DIRECTION GIVEN FROM CITY STAFF AT THE JULY ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION MEETING, THE ART BOARD WOULD ONLY GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PUBLIC ART AND PUBLIC ART ONLY, PARTICULARLY VISUAL ARTS WITH RESTRICTIONS ON EVENTS.
IT WAS CLARIFIED THAT ALL CULTURAL ASPECTS WOULD BE REMOVED AND EVENTS WERE NO LONGER A CONCERN OF THE ART BOARD AT THE DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL.
NOT ONCE WAS IT OFFICIALLY CLARIFIED IN A PUBLIC DOCUMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH SOME OF THESE CULTURAL EVENTS UNTIL FOUR DAYS AGO IN THE CITY MANAGER REPORT.
IN THE EVENT THAT YOU DO REMOVE CULTURE FROM THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION, THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
WILL IT BE THE LIBRARY AND CULTURE BOARD? WILL IT BE THE PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURE BOARD? IF THE LIBRARY IS IN CHARGE OF CULTURAL EVENTS, WILL THESE EVENTS ONLY TAKE PLACE IN THE LIBRARY? OR WILL THEY BE PUBLIC DISPLAYS IN VARIOUS CITY OWNED BUILDINGS THAT GENERATE LOTS OF FOOT TRAFFIC, WHICH ALL CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN, AS WAS THE MISSION OF THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION SINCE THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION COMBINED ART WITH THESE CULTURAL HOLIDAYS? WILL THERE BE CULTURAL AND ARTISTIC DISPLAYS IN CITY HALL? MARY KYLE, HARTSON SQUARE PARK AND THE CROW CENTER WITH THE CONTINUATION OF A CINCO DE MAYO CULTURAL ART DISPLAY AND JUNETEENTH CULTURAL DANCE DISPLAY AND POP-UP MUSEUM IN 2024.
NOT BE CONSIDERED PUBLIC ART SINCE IT ALSO HAS A CULTURAL ELEMENT THAT ISN'T COVERED BY AN ART BOARD.
IF THE PARD AND LIBRARY ALSO COVER CULTURAL EVENTS, WHY WOULD THE CITY CONSIDER CUTTING OUT THE ADDITIONAL SEVEN CULTURALLY ARTISTIC EVENTS WHICH FOCUSED ON TEENS AND ADULTS THAT WERE PUT ON BY THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION IN THE SPAN OF HALF A FISCAL YEAR? AGAIN, BASED ON THE
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DIRECTION GIVEN AT THE JULY ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION MEETING FOR THOSE WHO ARE OTHERWISE IMPAIRED FROM APPRECIATING VISUAL ARTS, HOW WILL THE ART BOARD INCORPORATE PERFORMATIVE ARTS, AUDITORY ARTS, CULINARY ARTS, AND TACTILE ARTS IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN INCLUSIVITY? I'D LIKE TO ECHO A SENTIMENT FROM A CITIZEN COMMENT AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.IF YOU DECIDE TO SEPARATE ART AND CULTURE AND PLACE RESTRICTIONS ON THE TYPE OF ART THAT CAN BE ENJOYED WHILE PLACING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CULTURAL EVENTS ON THE PARKS OR LIBRARY, THEN THAT SIMPLY ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
IF YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THE VARIOUS CULTURAL EVENTS PUT ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THEN DON'T TRY TO CIRCUMSCRIBE IT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE CITIZENS OF KYLE ARE FREE TO GO TO CULTURAL AND ARTISTIC EVENTS IN SAN MARCOS, BUTTA, OR EVEN AUSTIN, AND SPEND OUR MONEY THERE.
HOWEVER, WE CHOOSE TO STAY IN KYLE.
NOW, I'M WELL AWARE THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF YOU WHO DON'T HOLD THESE SAME SENTIMENTS.
AND TO THAT END, I SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE SMALLER ASPECTS OF THE CITY THAT MATTER TO US, AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT THOSE CULTURAL EVENTS AND OR ART DISPLAYS INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND TO THE REST OF YOU THINK OF WHY THE CITIZENS ARE UPSET INSTEAD OF FORMULATING YOUR ARGUMENTS.
THAT IS ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT I HAVE, UH, IN TERMS OF FORMS, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DIANE HARVO AND I LIVE AT 1528 AMBERWOOD LOOP.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK, UM, IN REGARDS TO TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
THE FIRST ONE IS IN REGARDS TO ITEM 21.
THE DIALOGUE FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW WITHOUT ANY ISSUES.
I FEEL LIKE THIS ITEM ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA IS SENDING MIXED MESSAGES.
THIS EVENT, THIS EVENT'S INTENT WAS TO HAVE DIALOGUE AMONGST MINORITIES WITH MINORITIES.
BUT THIS ITEM PROHIBITS A MINORITY WHO IS RUNNING FOR OFFICE FROM PARTICIPATING.
DOES NOT MAKE SENSE UNLESS YOU ARE UNIFORMLY TAKING AWAY ALL PARTICIPATION IN ANY CITY EVENTS FOR ANY CANDIDATE INCLUDING THE MAYOR, THEN I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU VOTE NO.
IF A CANDIDATE IS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, JUST HAVE 'EM SIGN A WAIVER THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA PROMOTE THEIR CAMPAIGN DURING THE DIALOGUE FOR PEACE, LET 'EM BE A MODERATOR.
SECOND ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IS ITEM NUMBER 23.
I HAVE A QUESTION AS TO WHY, UH, R F Q OR EVEN AN R F P WAS NOT REQUESTED.
UH, WE HAVE DONE OTHERS FOR IN THE PAST FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW IS SUFFERING AND MANY AGENTS ARE STARVING.
UH, SO I'M AT A LOSS AS TO WHY, UM, NEITHER DOCUMENT WAS EVEN CONSIDERED.
BY READING THE AGENDAS AND LISTENING TO THE BUDGET MEETINGS, IT APPEARS THE CITY WILL BE MAKING SEVERAL LAND PURCHASES IN THE FUTURE.
SO WHY ARE WE NOT SPREADING THE WEALTH TO OTHERS IN THIS FIELD? ALSO, WILL OUR LEGAL COUNSEL STILL BE NEEDED IN THESE TRANSACTIONS OR WILL THERE BE INSTANCES WHERE THE LEGAL COUNSEL WILL NOT BE NEEDED? 'CAUSE IT MIGHT CREATE CONFLICT THERE.
ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO COME FORWARD? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE.
CITIZEN COMMENTS, CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED.
[4. Agenda Order per Rules of Council Sec. B1. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
NEXT UP IS, UH, AGENDA ORDERED.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WISH TO MOVE AROUND? UH, OKAY.
UH, I'D LIKE TO, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE, SOME OF THE FIREFIGHTERS HERE AND I KNOW THEY'RE PROBABLY ON OVERTIME.
[5. Appoint Leigh'Ann Andrews to vacant Seat 6 of the Community Gardens Committee. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation]
UP IS APPOINTMENTS.UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPOINT LEANNE UH, ANDREWS TO VACANT SEAT SIX OF THE COMMUNITY GARDENS COMMITTEE.
MS. ESPOSA, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MARIANA ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, YOU RECENTLY APPROVED THE FORMATION OF THE COMMUNITY GARDENS COMMITTEE AND THEY HAVE ALREADY HELD THEIR FIRST MEETING.
THEY'VE ALREADY HELD THEIR FIRST MEETING.
UH, HOWEVER, RIGHT BEFORE THE FIRST MEETING, WE DID HAVE ONE MEMBER WHO HAD TO WITHDRAW.
UM, AND SO WE WENT BACK TO THE INITIAL POLL OF THE 25 APPLICANTS AND THEN THE 14 THAT WE INTERVIEWED.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO FILL SEAT SIX WITH LEANNE ANDREWS.
LEANNE ANDREWS HAS LIVED IN THE CITY OF KYLE FOR THREE YEARS.
SHE REPRESENTS THE SPRING BRANCH NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, SHE HAS PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE AS A COMMUNITY GARDEN VOLUNTEER WHILE LIVING IN SEATTLE AND IS A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE KYLE COMMUNITY GARDEN CLUB.
LEANNE IS HERE IN ATTENDANCE IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. ESPOSA.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MOTIONS? YES.
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TO APPROVE.UM, ITEM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLO SCALE THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[6. Appoint Candace Futch to vacant Seat 4 of the Arts and Cultural Commission. ~ Amber Schmeits, Assistant City Manager]
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP.UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, APPOINT CANDACE, UH, UM, UH, FU TO VACANT SEAT FOUR OF THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, A SCH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UH, TONIGHT WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENT OF CANDACE POOCH TO, UH, SEAT NUMBER FOUR FOR THE CURRENTLY NAMED ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
UH, SHE IS A FIBER AR ARTIST WHO LIVES IN KYLE.
SHE'S WORKED IN GOVERNMENT AND SHE HAS EXPERIENCE WITH WORKING COLLABORATIVE COLLABORATIVELY WITH OTHERS TO STAY WITHIN, UM, BUDGETS.
SO SHE'S, SHE'S WELL KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THAT.
UM, SHE HAS DEMONSTRATED A STRONG COMMITMENT TO BE INVOLVED WITH THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION, AND THEN EVERYBODY ON THE INTERVIEW PANEL WHO, UM, WERE ABLE TO TALK WITH HER, UH, FELT THAT SHE'D BE A STRONG CANDIDATE FOR THIS POSITION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, SHE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND HER TERM WOULD BE, UH, FROM TONIGHT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH, THE 2024.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COUNCILOR? FLOOR COUNT.
UM, SO SEAT FOUR, WHAT ARE THOSE REQUIREMENTS? IT, IT'S AN ARTIST, AN ARTIST REPRESENTATIVE? YES, MA'AM.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM SIX, PLEASE.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALL, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS, UH, UH, PRO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH, PROCLAMATION HONORING FORMER MAYOR SANDRA RIO AT THE REQUEST OF THE FAMILY.
THEY'VE ASKED US TO, UH, UH, GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE TIME, UH, UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE FAMILY PRESENT.
WE WANNA BE HONORING, RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
SO WE'LL BRING THAT BACK NEXT, NEXT MEETING.
[8. A Proclamation recognizing the service of first responders related to the recent wildfires in Kyle and the surrounding areas. ~ Kyle City Council ]
UH, AND THEN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE SERVICE OF FIRST RESPONDERS RELATED TO THE RECENT WILDFIRES.AND, UH, KYLE IN THE SURROUNDING, UH, AREAS.
UH, CHIEF TAYLOR AND FIREFIGHTERS, IF Y'ALL WOULDN'T MIND COMING FORWARD A LITTLE BIT, WE GOT MORE COMING IN.
UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF Y'ALL KNOW WE HAD SOME SERIOUS FIRES OVER THE LAST, YOU KNOW, WEEKS' WORTH OF TIME.
THE CALL FIRE DEPARTMENT'S BEEN FIGHTING FIRES, NOT ONLY IN OUR LAND, BUT UH, UH, IN THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS AS WELL.
AND SO THE LEAST THAT I COULD DO IS OFFER A PROCLAMATION MEMORIALIZING THE WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT FORTH IN THE, THE RECENT MONTHS.
AND IT'S REALLY, ALL OF US AT THE CITY COUNCIL, I THINK ARE JUST VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE.
SO I'M GONNA READ THIS OUT, ALRIGHT.
WHEREAS ON AUGUST 8TH, 2023, JUST BEFORE 2:00 PM A FAST MOVING WILDFIRE ERUPTED IN THE OAK HILL NEIGHBORHOOD OF KYLE AND QUICKLY CONSUMED APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES FORCING EVACUATIONS AND BRINGING EMERGENCY CREWS, INCLUDING AERIAL SUPPORT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO FIGHT THE BLAZE.
AND WHEREAS REGIONAL AND LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS, INCLUDING THE KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SOUTH HAYES FIRE DEPARTMENT, SAN MARCOS FIRE DEPARTMENT, NORTH HAYES FIRE DEPART, UH, OFFICE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, UH, TAYLOR, E M S, GRAND PRAIRIE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, HAYES COUNTY, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAYES COUNTY WILD, A WILDLAND TASK FORCE JUMPED INTO ACTION TO STOP THE FLAMES SAVING LIVES AND APPROXIMATELY 50 HOMES.
AND WHEREAS LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THE KYLE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, KYLE PUBLIC LIBRARY, ST.
ANTHONY'S CATHOLIC CHURCH, KYLE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH, AND H E B OPENED THEIR DOORS TO PROVIDE SHELTER SUPPORT AND RESOURCES TO THE TEMPORARILY, UH, DISPLACED TO THOSE TEMPORARILY DISPLACED BY THE FIRES.
AND WHEREAS KYLE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT STAFF SHOWED BRAVELY BRAVERY AND RESOURCEFULNESS BY GETTING CITY WATER TRUCKS TO PLACES ALONG THE FIRE'S PERIMETER TO STOP THE PROGRESS OF THE FLAMES.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE ACTIVATED THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AT THE NEW KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER FOR THE FIRST TIME, ALLOWING FOR MORE EFFICIENT RESPONSE AND UPDATES TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THIS EMERGENCY EVENT.
AND WHEREAS NO STRUCTURES WERE DAMAGED AND NO PEOPLE WERE HARMED DUE TO THE MASSIVE REGIONAL AND COMMUNITY RESPONSE.
ONLY DAYS AFTER MANY OF THE SAME AGENCIES, INCLUDING SOUTH HAYES FIRES, SAN MARCOS FIRE, AND NORTH HAYES COUNTY FIRE, KYLE FIRE, BEAUTIF FIRE, WIMBERLEY FIRE, AUSTIN FIRE,
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TEXAS A AND M FOREST SERVICE, TRAVIS COUNTY FIRE RESCUE HAYES COUNTY, UH, COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM, HAYES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, HAYES COUNTY E M S AND WIMBERLEY FIRE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO THE OAK GROVE FIRE IN THE SAN MARCOS AREA THAT CONSUMED APPROXIMATELY 400 ACRES, INCLUDING ONE STRUCTURE WITH LOW NO LIVES LOST.THERE NOW FOR BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND COMMEND THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND REGIONAL ORGANIZATIONS FOR THEIR EXTRAORDINARY WORK UNDER EXTREME CONDITIONS DURING THE OAK HILL AND OAK GROVE FIRES.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR US OVER THIS LAST WEEK.
YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL.
YEAH, IT, IT'S BEEN A TEAMWORK.
LIKE I SAID, THE PUBLIC WORKS, THEIR WATER TRUCKS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN SLOWING THAT FIRE DOWN.
UM, THESE GUYS DO ALL THE WORK, SO YEAH, THE, THE, IT'S A GREAT GROUP OF GUYS WE HAVE AND WE JUST KEEP GETTING BIGGER.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR THE CHIEF UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? PARSLEY? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ENOUGH WORDS FOR US TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
WE HAVE HAD FIRE AFTER FIRE AFTER FIRE, AND, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT EVEN WE ARE IN SUCH A SITUATION THAT THE SMALLEST SITUA, THE SMALLEST THING CAN CAUSE A FIRE, EVEN LIKE A SPARK OR SOMEBODY MOWING THE LAWN.
I LIKE, I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT IT THIS PAST WEEK AND THE QUICK AND EFFICIENT RESPONSE THAT YOU GUYS HAD IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE REALLY APPLAUD.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOUR JOB DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THANK YOU TO ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS, FIRST RESPONDERS AND EVERYONE WHO'S OUT THERE.
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE DROUGHT IS DANGEROUS.
I MEAN, WE WE'RE ON THIS HEAT WAVE, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GONNA COME OUT OF IT, BUT JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAVING PEOPLE'S HOUSES, THEIR PROPERTY, THEIR WILDLIFE, AND JUST FOR GIVING YOUR TIME AND ENERGY JUST TO BE OUT THERE IN THE FRONT TOO, PUT THESE FIRES OUT.
ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN FLOS CAL? YES.
I, AGAIN, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
UM, AND MY HOPE IS MOVING FORWARD THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY CAN BUILD A BIGGER, STRONGER RELATIONSHIP.
UM, I KNOW IN THE LAST BUDGET, MAYOR MITCHELL, UM, MADE A MOTION TO INCLUDE SOME SUPPLIES ON THE CITY'S BEHALF, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELD BY, UH, OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
BUT HOPEFULLY THAT ALSO ENABLES US TO BE OF ASSISTANCE TO YOU GUYS QUICKER, SOONER, BETTER.
UM, AND SO THAT I, FOR ME, THAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN SHOW OUR APPRECIATION.
SO, AND THANK YOU GUYS, AND THAT'S MUCH APPRECIATED.
HELPING US WITH HAZMAT SITUATIONS LIKE HELL LIKE THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WOULD Y'ALL MIND COMING FORWARD FOR A PHOTOGRAPH WITH US? YEAH.
LIKE A SOCCER PLAYER? WHAT? YES.
WE'LL COME BACK HERE, WE'LL COME BACK HERE.
THANK, THANK YOU CHIEF TAYLOR.
THE, THE NEXT ITEM I'M GONNA TAKE
[26. Consider a resolution approving an amendment to the Lease Agreement by and between the City of Kyle and the Kyle Volunteer Fire Department (Hays County Emergency Services District #5, commonly known as the Kyle Fire Department). ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
UP IS, UH, RELATED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.IT'S, UH, AGENDA ITEM 26, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE, AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE.
SO THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS WAY BACK IN THE DAY, UH, THE CITY OF KYLE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, E S D FIVE AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, HELPED TO CONSTRUCT THE PRECINCT TWO, OR NOT PRECINCT TWO, BUT FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO, STATION NUMBER TWO, UH, SITE.
AND AT THAT TIME, UH, THE WAY IT WAS FIGURED OUT IS THAT THE CITY OF KYLE WOULD PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
THE, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD DONATE THE LAND AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD OWN AND OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE, THE FACILITIES.
AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT ALL THAT STRUCTURED.
SO THE, IN THE, IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT, UH,
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THERE IS A UPSTAIRS, UPSTAIRS, UM, SORT OF TRAINING ROOM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF UTILITY ROOM ESSENTIALLY THAT, THAT'S DOWNSTAIRS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.DOWNSTAIRS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THERE'S A, THERE'S A ROOM WHERE, UH, IN OUR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THEM, IT SAYS THAT WE WOULD, UH, MAINTAIN IT FOR THE ABILITY TO DO THE, THE SEE IF KYLE HAS CONTROL OF THAT ROOM, ESSENTIALLY.
YOU KNOW, AND SO I THINK WE HAVE A YOGA CLASS AND A, UH, SCOUTS MEETING THAT TAKES PLACE THERE.
UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S NOW FULLY STAFFED OR ARE ON THEIR WAY TO BEING FULLY STAFFED AND THEY GOT REAL PROBLEM BEING ABLE TO MAKE THE FIREFIGHTERS COMFORTABLE.
AND IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY IF WE COULD LET GO OF THAT ROOM AND LET THEM DO WHAT THEY NEED TO WITH IT IN ORDER TO UTILIZE IT FOR ITS PRIMARY FUNCTION.
SO THERE'S 10 TO 12 PEOPLE THERE MOST DAYS NOW, AND THERE'S ONLY SEATING FOR SIX IN THE LIVING DAY ROOM AREA.
SO E M SS WANTS TO BUILD A COUPLE ADDITIONAL BEDROOMS 'CAUSE THERE'S TWO AMBULANCES THAT RUN OUTTA THAT STATION AS WELL, AND ADD ANOTHER SEATING, SEATING AREA JUST FOR THEIR PEOPLE.
SO, AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THAT ACTIVITY ROOM WOULD BE USED FOR.
SO I, TO ME, THAT SEEMED LIKE, UH, BECAUSE OF OUR NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND OUR CONTINUED GROWTH AS A CITY, NOT, NOT THE HIGHEST PRIORITY OF ROOM FOR US TO TRY TO KEEP CONTROL OF, UH, I WANTED TO PROPOSE THAT WE STRIKE THAT OUT OF THAT LEASE AGREEMENT AND LET THEM OCCUPY THAT SPACE IN ITS ENTIRETY, CUSTOMER KO.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT LEASE AGREEMENTS.
ONE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY OR TO, TO COUNCIL IN THE BACKUP THAT WAS NOT SIGNED, BUT THERE'S ALSO A PREVIOUS ONE FROM 2004.
UM, AND IT HAS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE WE'RE STICKING TO THE SAME, UM, AGREEMENT.
'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A FEW ADDITIONAL THINGS.
UM, AND CORRECT ME IF, IF I'M WRONG PAGE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE INSURANCE AND MAINTENANCE.
UM, THREE B SAYS INSURANCE OR THE MAINTENANCE.
AND THEN PAGE FOUR, SECTION FOUR, LIABILITY INSURANCE SAYS THE CITY WAS SUPPOSED TO COVER THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THAT EXPIRES AUGUST 4TH.
UM, OH, WHAT WAS THAT DATE? LIKE 2103.
SO I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER 80 YEARS ON THAT.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND START, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE LEASE AND ABIDING BY THAT OR MAKING ANY AMENDMENTS, AND IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT, WE COULDN'T MAKE THAT AMENDMENT UNTIL 2103, I THINK IS WHEN IT WAS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IN ADDITION TO LETTING GO OF THE ROOM, ARE WE ALSO LETTING GO OF THAT MAINTENANCE AS WELL? AND ARE WE ALSO GONNA START PICKING UP THE INSURANCE MAYOR COUNSEL PAGE SIGNED CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.
THERE'S THE, THERE'S TWO DOCUMENTS AS BACKGROUND THAT I'M, THAT I'M AWARE OF.
THESE ARE AN OLDER TRANSACTIONS.
THE, THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THE ONE FROM 2004, THAT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HAYES CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND SO THAT RELATES TO THE, THE PROPERTY, THE CITY.
SO DOES THE CITY PAY THE INSURANCE ON THAT, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION.
UM, ALSO THE OTHER, THE OTHER AGREEMENT I HAD IN QUESTION I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND 'CAUSE IT WASN'T LIKE EXECUTED AT ALL.
SO, SO FIRST WITH RESPECT TO THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL RELATED TO USE OF THE LAND, THE CITY'S GOT CERTAIN OBLIGATIONS TO MAINTAIN INSURANCE UNDER THAT AGREEMENT.
AND SO THAT IS AN AGREEMENT AS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL.
SO THE CITY NEEDS TO FULFILL THOSE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.
UH, ANY RENEGOTIATION OF THAT AGREEMENT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO YEAH, MY CONCERN IS LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ONLY OWNS YOU, YOU GUYS DON'T OWN ANYTHING, RIGHT? WE DON'T OWN ANYTHING.
THE LAND IS A SCHOOL, THE BUILDING IS A CITY.
SO THAT, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY THAT THERE'S NOT AN AGREEMENT AT ALL WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY OWN.
THERE'S A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH US.
YEAH, WE, WELL, WE, THE ONE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US WASN'T EXECUTED, SO I DIDN'T KNOW, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT WAS, IT, IT SUPERSEDED ANOTHER AGREEMENT.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THIS AND THE SCHOOL ADDRESSES USE OF THE LAND.
THE CITY WAS TO BUILD A FACILITY FOR FIRE OPERATION AND E M S SERVICES WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF THE AGREEMENT BEING ENTERED AND TO OPERATE THOSE TYPES OF, UM, SERVICES.
BUT IT ALSO DISCUSSES THE ROOM WELL THAT'S THAT ROOM THAT WAS FOR CITY USE.
THAT'S A SECOND, THAT'S A SECOND AGREEMENT.
SO WE'VE GOT, BUT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE, AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THAT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED IN 2006 BY RESOLUTION.
THERE'S A SIGNED RESOLUTION, BUT THERE'S NOT A SIGNED AGREEMENT.
WE COULD NOT LOCATE A SIGNED AGREEMENT.
SO WHAT THE AMENDMENT DOES THIS EVENING.
THE OTHER THING THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THAT AGREEMENT WAS
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ENTERED WAS THAT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS DISSOLVED AND THE, THE E S D NUMBER FIVE, UM, HAS KIND OF ASSUMED THE, THE OPERATIONS OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.SO THE, THE LEASE AMENDMENT, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
WHAT THAT DOES IS IT, UM, MAKES THE CHANGES TO, UM, GET RID OF THE USE OF THAT ROOM FOR MEETING AND COMMUNITY PURPOSES TURNS IT WHOLLY OVER TO THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IT ALLOWS REMODELING TO OCCUR WITH APPROVAL OF THE CITY MANAGER DESIGNEE, AND ALL PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS HAVE TO BE OBTAINED AND COMPLIED WITH.
UM, IT RECOGNIZES THAT THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST WAS DISSOLVED.
AND E S D NUMBER FIVE IS TAKING OVER THE OPERATION OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, IT OFF THE CITY BY APPROVING THE LEASE AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WOULD, UM, AGREE TO THE ASSIGNMENT OF THAT LEASE UNDERLYING LEASE AGREEMENT TO E S D NUMBER FIVE.
UH, AND IT ALSO, THE AGREEMENT ALSO, UH, PROVIDES FOR THE E S D NUMBER FIVE, ONCE THEY TAKE IT TO THEIR BOARD FOR APPROVAL TO AGREE TO THIS AMENDMENT AND THE TERMS OF THE LEASE.
AND INCORPORATES THAT TERMS OF THE, THE TERMS OF THE LEASE AS A, UM, AS A, AS A PART OF THAT AMENDMENT.
SO THAT WAY WE GET ALL, EVERYTHING CONFIRMED AND AGREED TO ONE DOCUMENT CONTROLLING THIS
SO MY QUESTION IS, IT'S DISCUSSED IN BOTH THE 2004 FULLY EXECUTED WITH THE, WITH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE 26TH, 2006.
SO THE 2004 SAYS A CITY SHALL BE ALLOWED TO CONSTRUCT STRUCTURES AND IMPROVEMENTS DEEMED NECESSARY OR DESIRABLE FOR ITS INTENDED USE, INCLUDING BUILDINGS, GARAGES, PARKING LOTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
I'M NOT GONNA READ IT ALL, BUT MY QUESTION IS, DO WE ALSO HAVE TO GO BACK AND AMEND THAT AS WELL SINCE IT'S DISCUSSED IN BOTH THE BUILDING'S ALREADY COMPLETED.
AND SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS JUST REMODEL INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING, THE CITY'S OBLIGATED TO MAINTAIN THE BUILDING, KEEP IT UP, AND THE CITY IN ITS LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS, UM, KIND OF AUTHORIZE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO, UH, UPDATE AND MAINTAIN THOSE FACILITIES.
SO I I DON'T THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT.
I THINK IT'S ALL WITHIN WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE CITY, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR USE.
MY CONCERN AGAIN WAS THAT IT WAS NOT EXECUTED, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A RESOLUTION, THERE WAS NOT AN EXECUTED AGREEMENT.
SO EITHER WAY, WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26, PLEASE.
IS THERE ALREADY A SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM, UH, 26.
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT PAGE TO BE DIRECTION TO MAKE THE CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT THAT ALLOW FOR THE ELIMINATION OF OUR CLAIM IN ANY AND ALL FORMS ON THAT ROOM, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO DOES IT NEED TO COME BACK TO US WITH THOSE CHANGES IN THERE OR ARE WE GOOD ON NO, THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF IN THE AMENDMENT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALL MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
[9. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding Project Hot Pursuit. ~ Victoria Vargas, Director of Economic Development]
UH, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD THE DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING PROJECT HOT PURSUIT.
MS. VARGAS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU PROJECT KNOWN AS HOT PURSUIT, WHICH IS A PROJECT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, MAYBE OVER A YEAR NOW.
UM, IT'S THE 100 ACRE PARCEL THAT IS KNOWN AS THE CARAWAY TRACT.
AND WE HAVE OUR DEVELOPERS HERE TO, UM, GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
UH, IT'S A LARGE RETAIL CENTER WITH DINING OPTIONS AND RETAIL SPACE.
IT, IT'LL HAVE A MIXED USE, UM, COMPONENT WITH A CENTRAL LAWN, AND IT'LL ALSO INCORPORATE MULTIFAMILY HERE TO GIVE YOU A WELL, THE, UH, DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING A TS UM, PARTICIPATION FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, ALSO WE NEED TO, UM, CONSIDER THE PUD THE DA IN THE ANNEXATION FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND HERE WE HAVE ANDREW ALVIS FROM NEWQUEST WHO WILL GIVE US THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS AFTER YOU JUST PRESS THAT LITTLE, HERE'S MY RIGHT DOWN THERE.
UM, AUSTIN, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, REALLY APPRECIATE IT, MAYOR AND, AND COUNCIL,
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REALLY, UH, THANKFUL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET ON THE AGENDA.UM, REALLY WANNA THANK STAFF AS WELL.
Y'ALL HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL HELPING US, UH, GET TO THIS POINT.
UM, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT, UH, THAT, THAT WE'VE LOVED FOR SO LONG.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, MAYBE, UH, PROBABLY ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW, UH, SINCE WE, WE FIRST, UH, LOCATED THE SITE AND WHAT WE'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
UH, WE HAVE A REALLY COOL MIXED USE, UH, DEVELOPMENT HERE, UH, REALLY, UH, A LIFESTYLE COMPONENT AND CENTER TO IT.
AND, UH, SO REALLY JUST KIND OF WANNA RUN THROUGH THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
UM, SO, UH, THIS IS OUR PROJECT, UH, AS NOW WE'RE CALLING IT VIBE PARK.
THIS, THIS NAME IS STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY TRYING TO PLAY, UH, PATRONAGE TO THE, THE VIBE TRAIL.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF STILL WORKING THROUGH, BUT I WANNA GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON, ON WHO WE ARE, UM, AND, AND REALLY KIND OF HOW THIS PROJECT CAME TO LIFE.
UM, THIS IS A JV BETWEEN TRANSWESTERN AND NEWQUEST.
UM, NEWQUEST IS REALLY, UM, DOING ALL THE HORIZONTAL IMPROVEMENTS, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE RETAIL COMPONENT, AND TRANSWESTERN WILL BE DOING THE MULTIFAMILY PIECE ALONG WITH THE V M U PORTION.
UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEWQUEST, UH, HAS A REALLY LONG HISTORY HERE IN TEXAS.
UM, WE, WE'VE BUILT OVER ABOUT 4 BILLION, UM, UH, IN, IN PROJECTS.
UM, WE'VE, LAST YEAR DID ABOUT SIX NEW DEVELOPMENTS, UH, EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT THIS SIZE, ALL REALLY LARGE TOWN CENTER, UH, TYPE DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, TODAY WE, OUR PORTFOLIO IS ABOUT $2.3 BILLION.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY A FULL SERVICE FIRM.
WE REPRESENT OVER A HUNDRED NATIONAL CREDIT TENANTS.
WE HAVE A LEASING TEAM, A DEVELOPMENT TEAM, ARCHITECTURE'S IN-HOUSE.
WE HAVE A LEGAL TEAM IN-HOUSE.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY A, A, A, A FULL TURN COMMERCIAL, UM, UH, COMPANY DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
UM, I'M GONNA BRIEFLY GO, I'M GONNA TRY TO GO THROUGH THESE PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT, UM, A COUPLE OF OUR PROJECTS, UH, ROSENBERG TOWN CENTER IS ABOUT 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET.
IT'S ONE THAT, UH, IT'S THE TOP 30 LARGEST IN IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
UM, IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY, UH, SUCCESSFUL FOR ROSENBERG.
UM, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, HERE'S KIND OF THE SITE PLAN THAT, THAT YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENT, UH, EXTENSIVENESS OF, OF THE TENANTS WE WORK WITH, UM, THE SIZE, UM, AND WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WHAT WE'VE DEVELOPED.
UM, STONEHILL TOWN CENTER IN PFLUGERVILLE, YOU MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, UH, KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IT'S, UH, ONE OF THE SECOND MOST SHOP SHOPPING CENTER IN, UH, AUSTIN IN THE, THE M S A, BUT, UH, 15 MOST, MOST IN TEXAS.
UM, AND THEN REALLY CREEKSIDE TOWN CENTER, WHICH IS, UH, JUST HERE IN NEW BRAUNFELS.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY ONE OF OUR, OUR GOLD GYMS. IT, UM, WE GET 6.2 MILLION VISITS ANNUALLY AT THIS CENTER.
WE, WE STARTED THIS CENTER IN OH 8, 0 9, AND IT'S CONTINUES TO GROW.
WE'RE ADDING NEW COMPONENTS TO IT ALL THE TIME.
WE'RE CURRENTLY REDEVELOPING IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LONG-TERM HOLDERS, SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST, UM, TENANTS AND, UM, HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THESE CENTERS WITHSTAND THE, THE TEST OF TIME.
UM, AND THAT KIND OF GOES INTO THE, THE COVID AND ONLINE SHOPPING RESISTANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE THESE CENTERS VERY LIFESTYLE COMPONENT.
YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY WANT THE OFFICE, THE RETAIL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MEDICAL, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE STAYING THERE, SHOPPING THERE, UM, GOING TO EAT THERE, UH, DOING THEIR ENTERTAINMENT THERE, YOU KNOW, TAKING THEIR KIDS TO DAYCARE THERE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
BUT YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GO THERE AND STAY THERE ALL DAY.
AND REALLY A CENTER OF THIS SIZE IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED PEOPLE NOT ONLY IN KYLE, UM, YOU KNOW, 65,000 RESIDENTS ARE NOT GONNA SUPPORT THIS CENTER.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA NEED PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF KYLE TO COME TO THIS CENTER, SHOP HERE AND STAY HERE, SPEND THEIR MONEY HERE.
UM, AND, AND TO REALLY MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL, UH, NOT ONLY FOR THE CENTER, BUT FOR THE TENANTS ITSELF.
AND, AND THE LAST THING WE WANT IS A TENANT TO, TO GO OUT BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN'T GET THE SALES THAT THEY NEED TO TO SUPPORT THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE CARAWAY TRACK.
IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF 35, UM, JUST NORTH OF KYLE PARKWAY, SOUTH OF KYLE CROSSING.
UM, BUT I, I HOPE MOST ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
BUT JUST ALONG BB ROAD, UM, JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, WE HAVE A LARGE BOX COMPONENT.
WE HAVE LOTS OF RESTAURANT PADS ALONG THE FRONTAGE, AND THEN WE HAVE THIS REALLY COOL MIXED USE FEEL, UM, KIND OF ALONG THE BB ROADSIDE WITH THE SOUTH END OF, OF THE, UM, UM, PROJECT.
UM, THE, THE PRESENTATION'S LONG, SO I'M GONNA TRY TO GO THROUGH THINGS PRETTY QUICKLY AND, AND HAPPY TO GO BACK IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS.
BUT THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE CIRC CIRCULATION, THE VIBE TRAIL, UM, AND, AND THE WALKABILITY OF, OF THE, THE SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, THE, THE VISION BEHIND THIS IS REALLY KIND OF, UM, WE WANTED TO PLAY, UM, KIND OF SOME
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TRIBUTE TO, TO THE GREAT NORTHERN RAILROAD THAT REALLY KIND OF STARTED THIS, THIS CITY.SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING A LOT OF BRICK STEEL.
UM, IT, IT'S ALMOST THE, THE FEEL IS ALMOST KIND OF LIKE AN IN MODERN INDUSTRIAL, BUT KIND OF A FARMHOUSE FEEL.
SO WE WANT IT TO BE VERY HOMEY.
UM, BUT ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE THE NICE GLASS PIECES, UH, A LOT OF STEEL COMPONENTS.
UM, LOTS OF GREEN, GREEN SPACE, OUTDOOR AREAS, UM, AND, AND KIND OF THAT, THAT FARM FEEL AS WELL.
UM, UM, AND THERE'S A LOT MORE IN THERE, BUT, UH, JUST KIND OF MOVING THROUGH QUICKLY, UM, THIS IS KIND OF A, A ONE SHOT RENDERING COMING FROM THE, THE SOUTH, UH, EAST SIDE, UM, OF THE VIBE OR OF THE, THE, THE SITE.
UM, AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE, WE KIND OF HAVE, UH, A LOT OF RESTAURANT PATHS THAT WILL BE ALONG THE FRONT EDGE.
UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE VIBE TRAIL GOING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE, THE GREEN SPACE.
UM, AND WE'LL GET INTO IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AS WE GO.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE WHOLE IDEA HERE IS, IS CREATING A LIFESTYLE COMPONENT WHERE WE GET PEOPLE COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY TO COME HERE, SHOP, STAY, WORK, PLAY, UM, AND, AND DO ALL OF THEIR ACTIVITIES.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH A COUPLE DIFF DIFFERENT ANGLES THAT WE HAVE HERE.
AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF FROM THE SOUTH, UH, EAST SIDE.
UM, THIS IS KIND OF LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, UH, STRAIGHT AHEAD AND, AND SOME OF THESE COLORS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THIS IS, SHOULD GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR KIND OF THE STYLE AND THE IDEA, THE LOOK, UM, OF HOW THIS PROJECT, UH, WILL BE.
UM, THIS GREEN SPACE HERE IS, IS REALLY, UM, IT'S CHALLENGE CHALLENGING IN, IN SOME OF THESE MARKETS TO, TO BUILD A COHESIVE RETAIL COMPONENT WITH GREEN SPACE THAT, THAT REALLY, UM, HELPS YOUR TENANTS SUCCEED.
UM, THAT, THAT HELPS EVERYBODY, UH, UH, DO WELL IN THE SHOPPING CENTER, THE COHESIVENESS, THE WAY TENANTS CAN INTERACT FROM, FROM SIDE TO SIDE, THE WAY PEOPLE SIT ON PATIOS, LET THEIR KIDS GO PLAY ON THE GREEN SPACE.
UM, AND SO THIS REALLY, YOU KNOW, HAS A PRETTY GOOD ANGLE.
THE PAVILION IS KIND OF MORE WHERE WE CAN DO MARKETS AND, AND SMALL LITTLE EVENTS.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALL THE RETAIL ALONG BOTH SIDES.
UM, THE GREEN SPACES ARE BROKEN UP WITH QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SEATING AREAS, UM, PLAYGROUNDS, UH, LITTLE GREEN SPACES, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, THOSE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
BUT, UH, VERY, VERY MODERN, UM, UM, SORTS OF GREEN SPACES.
AND, UM, UH, AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER ANGLE, UH, SHOWING ALL THE RESTAURANT FRONTAGE PADS THAT, THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH AND TALKING TO.
UM, THIS IS KIND OF OUR SHOP ROW.
UH, THE LITTLE, UH, I GUESS ORANGE LINE IS THE VIBE TRAIL THAT, THAT WILL GO RIGHT KIND OF ON THE FRONT SIDE.
UH, WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE GOLF CART PARKING, IT'S A 12, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE, THE STANDARDS FOR THAT VIBE TRAIL.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO HERE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IN THE MIDDLE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PARALLEL PARKING, SO WE REALLY WANT IT TO BE, UH, MORE OF A, A, A, YOU KNOW, BRINGING YOU KIND OF THAT, THAT URBAN DEVELOPMENT FEEL TO THIS PROJECT.
PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO WALK AROUND.
IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE WALKABLE.
AND, UM, UH, IT JUST GIVES YOU THAT, THAT COHESIVENESS THAT YOU REALLY NEED FOR THESE LIFESTYLE CENTERS.
UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME, SOME ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE STEEL, THE GLASS, UM, KIND OF THE MODERNNESS, BUT ALSO KIND OF THAT, THAT OLD, OLD INDUSTRIAL FEEL THAT THAT BRINGS BACK TO THE, THE GREAT NORTHERN RAILROAD.
UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THE SMALL SHOPS, UH, ALONG THAT, THAT ROAD WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE GOLF CARTS AND, AND THE PATHS.
AND, AND AGAIN, AS WE, AS THE TENANTS COME AND WE SIGN LEASES HERE, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD SLIGHTLY CHANGE, BUT OVERALL, THIS IS KIND OF THE AESTHETICS IN THE FIELD OF THE PROJECT.
AND, AND IT KIND OF DIGS, DIVES INTO THE GREEN SPACE.
UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW WE HAVE THESE, THESE ANGLED WALK WALKABLE PATHS FROM THE RESTAURANTS TO THE SHOPS.
AGAIN, IT'S, UM, IT'S, IT'S CAN BE DIFFICULT SOMETIMES HAVING THE RESTAURANTS WHEN YOU'RE GONNA SIT DOWN AND EAT.
ARE THEY GONNA GO SPEND MONEY OVER HERE? IS IT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE THE DISTANCES ARE RIGHT.
YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE THE SEATING AREAS FIT.
YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, DOING, UM, OVER THE TOP PLAYGROUNDS THAT BLOCK THE VIEWS OF CERTAIN AREAS.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR TENANTS ARE HEALTHY, UM, THAT THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO STAY THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS TENANTS GOING OUT AND HAVING DARK SPACE IN ANY OF YOUR CENTERS.
SO, UM, MORE KIND OF INSPIRATION AND FIELDS.
UM, AND THIS IS KIND OF GOING INTO THE GREEN SPACE AREA.
UM, REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, THE SAME THING, THE COHESIVENESS, THE COMMUNITY ASPECT, THE, THE LIFESTYLE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN TODAY, AND, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE IN THE BACK RIGHT SIDE, WE HAVE A TWO STORY, UH, RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM, UM, AND OFFICE AND OR MEDICAL ON TOP IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED BODIES TO BE ON THE GROUND IN THIS PROJECT AT ALL TIMES TO SUPPORT THE RETAIL.
UM, THAT MEANS OFFICE, THAT MEANS MEDICAL, UM, THAT MEANS MULTIFAMILY.
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UM, THE MORE BODIES THAT WE CAN HAVE HERE, THE MORE SUCCESSFUL THE TENANTS DO, UM, FRANKLY, THE, THE BETTER YOUR, THE, THE SALES ARE THAT, THAT GENERATE THE, THE TAX REVENUE.UM, UH, THIS IS THE, THE VERTICAL MIXED USE PIECE.
UM, IT WILL BE, UH, THREE STORIES OF MULTIFAMILY ABOVE RETAIL.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS, UH, JUST IN THE, THE BACKSIDE.
IT, IT'S MORE OF AN URBAN, UM, WHAT I, I ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO CALL IT THE DONUT FEEL, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, IT'S A HIGH-END MULTI-FAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE LOOK OF IT IS, IS AGAIN, VERY COHESIVE WITH OUR PROJECT.
UM, VERY HIGH-END, UH, ON THAT, THAT PORTION AS WELL.
WE, WE NEED THEM TO, TO ALSO, UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, HELP GENERATE THE, THE SALES AND, AND BE THERE FOR OUR TENANTS.
BUT, UM, THIS GOES INTO JUST REALLY LIKE THE GREEN SPACE COMPONENTS, UH, SHADE, KIDS, SHADES AREA, UH, SHADES, SHADE SHADED AREAS, UH, FIRE PITS, JUST DIFFERENT SEATINGS, UM, JUST DIFFERENT LAWN COMPONENTS FOR, FOR EVENTS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR HOPE IS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT, YOU KNOW, A MOVIE ON THE LAWN WITH YOUR KIDS, OR SATURDAYS YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, A BAND OR, OR, OR SOMETHING COMING OUT TO PLAY.
BUT, UM, FARMER'S MARKETS ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT VERY, VERY INTERACTIVE.
AND AGAIN, IT, IT, IT KEEPS THE, THE, THE CENTER HEALTHY.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE THIS CENTER SUCCESSFUL.
UM, UH, MORE OF KIND OF THE SAME THING, A COVERED STAGE, PEDE, UH, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS, KIDS PLAY AREAS, UM, SEATING AREAS.
UM, AND THEN IT KIND OF GOES IN, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT MATERIALS, UH, DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING THERE.
ONE THING THAT I BELIEVE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT HERE IS THE AMOUNT OF LEAKAGE THAT WE'RE THE CITY OF KYLE IS CURRENTLY GETTING.
UM, THIS DATA RIGHT HERE IS BASED OFF OF, UH, IT'S, UH, A COMPANY CALLED PLACER AI, AND THEY BASE IT OFF OF CELL PHONE TRACKING DATA.
SO AS YOUR CELL PHONE PINGS AT DIFFERENT TOWERS, UH, IT CAN FOLLOW YOU WHEREVER YOU GO.
AND, UH, IT'S PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE TO SEE WHERE THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE ARE SHOPPING.
UM, SO THIS RIGHT HERE SHOWS, UH, THE NUM THE TOP 10 AREAS THAT RESIDENTS ARE SHOPPING OR SHOPPING CENTERS.
THEY'RE GOING TO, NUMBER ONE BEING SOUTH PARK MEADOWS, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF YOUR CITY.
UM, SOUTH PARK MEADOWS RECEIVES 190,176 VISITS A YEAR.
UM, SO IF YOU EQUATE THAT TO CALL IT A 13, 14, $15 TICKET ITEM, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SALES TAX YOU'RE LOSING.
UM, AND IT KIND OF GOES DOWN THE LIST, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, ALL THE TOP 10 ARE OUTSIDE OF YOUR CITY.
UM, 61% OF RETAIL VISITS ARE LEAKED OUTSIDE OF HAYES COUNTY, AND 7.5 MILLION RETAIL VISITS, UM, BY KYLE.
RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE OF, OF KYLE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, 7.5 MILLION VISITS TO SHOPPING CENTERS OUTSIDE OF KYLE, SPENDING MONEY OUTSIDE OF KYLE.
UM, KEEPING THOSE RESIDENTS HERE OR, AND OR BRINGING RESIDENTS OUTSIDE TO COME SHOP HERE, UM, I BELIEVE WOULD BE HUGE FOR KYLE AND, AND, UH, COULD MAKE, UH, DRASTIC CHANGES.
I WANTED TO TAKE THAT DATA AND ALMOST FLIP IT AROUND.
AND, AND SO I TOOK THE SOUTH PARK MEADOWS, UM, AND KIND OF PUT A HEAT MAP ON IT TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE THESE PEOPLE ARE SHOPPING FROM MM-HMM.
AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, KYLE IS A HUGE CONCENTRATION THAT, THAT WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM TO GO SHOP AT THAT SOUTH PARK MEADOW SITE, UM, DID KIND OF THE SAME THING.
UM, IT'S MUCH FARTHER NORTH IN AUSTIN, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE, I MEAN, KYLE, YOU'RE GETTING A LARGE CONCENTRATION OF, OF KYLE RESIDENTS GOING ALL THE WAY, UH, THAT FAR NORTH TO GO TO GO SHOPPING.
AND, UM, AND THEN KIND OF GOING BACK TO THIS CREEKSIDE TOWN CENTER, IT'S BEEN AN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT FOR US, UM, CURRENTLY REDEVELOPING WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE CENTER INTO MORE, UM, UH, MODERN GREEN SPACES, UH, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, PE PEOPLE LIKE TODAY, WE BUILT THIS IN OH EIGHT, I BELIEVE, AND THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WAS MODERN BACK THEN.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S INTERESTING HERE IS, AGAIN, YOU'RE SEEING AS FAR SOUTH AS YOU BRAUNFELS.
I MEAN, YOU'RE STILL SEEING A LARGE CONCENTRATION OF KYLE COMING THAT FAR TO SHOP.
UM, A LOT OF THE TENANTS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT ARE GONNA BE IN THIS SHOPPING CENTER ARE, WILL BE, ARE ALSO IN NEW BRAUNFELS.
SO YOU'RE DEFINITELY GONNA PICK ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC UP FROM NEW BRAUNFELS.
UM, THIS SHOPPING CENTER IS THE 93RD, UH, LARGEST SHOPPING CENTER IN THE NATION, UH, THE EIGHTH AND TEXAS, UH, BASED ON FOOT TRAFFIC, EXCUSE ME, NOT ON, ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, IN THE FIRST, WITHIN THE 15, 15 MILES.
YOUR AVERAGE VISIT IS SIX TIMES A YEAR.
SO PEOPLE ARE SHOPPING THERE CONSISTENTLY, WHICH IS GREAT.
YOU WANNA SEE THAT BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM TO CONTINUE TO COME BACK AND THEY STAY THERE AN AVERAGE OF, OF JUST OVER AN HOUR, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU WANT, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS
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YOU CAN AGAIN IN YOUR CITY, SPENDING MONEY IN YOUR CITY.UM, AS FAR AS THE, THE, THE PROJECT AND, AND THE VALUE I, THE TAX VALUE IT'LL BRING TO THE CITY, UM, CURRENTLY TODAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RECEIVING ALMOST NOTHING.
UM, THE, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN AG AND, UM, OUR, OUR PROJECT IS JUST OVER $200 MILLION, UM, IS WHAT OUR ESTIMATED VALUE OF IT WILL BE.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATING THE SALES TAX, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HAYES COUNTY PROPERTY, I S D I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $6.5 MILLION COMING INTO THE CITY.
UM, WELL, I GUESS 2.7 OF THAT GOING TO THE HAYES COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS A, A HUGE NUMBER FOR THE SCHOOLS AND, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THREE, 3 MILLION ON YOUR SALES TAX AND, AND JUST OVER A MILLION ON PROPERTY TAX.
UM, AS FAR AS JOBS GO, I MEAN WE, WE'VE, THIS IS A HARD CALCULATION, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE CALCULATED BASED OFF OF, OF YOUR TYPICAL, UM, RESTAURANT OR RETAIL USER AND, AND WHAT THEIR TYPICAL, UH, LABOR, UM, PERCENTAGE IS.
808 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT JOBS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL COME OFF OF THIS SITE.
THIS REALLY DOESN'T INCLUDE YOUR, YOUR SALARIED EMPLOYEES OR YOUR MORE CORPORATE EMPLOYEES, UM, AND OR, YOU KNOW, THE MEDICAL AND, AND THOSE, THOSE USES, BUT MORE RETAIL AND AND RESTAURANT.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS, UH, KIND OF A, A, A, ONE LAST STATISTIC WAS, UH, AS FAR AS HAYES COUNTY GOES, WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME WORK HERE, SHOP HERE, YOU KNOW, LIVE HERE, PLAY HERE, ENJOY THEIR TIME HERE IN KYLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, TODAY THERE'S 35,000, UH, PEOPLE COMING INTO HAYES COUNTY.
THIS IS AN EMPLOYMENT STATUS COMING INTO WORK.
15,000 ARE STAYING, BUT YOU'RE LOSING 60,000 PEOPLE TO WORK OUTSIDE OF HAYES COUNTY.
UM, WHICH AGAIN, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, OUT OUTSIDE OF KYLE.
AND SO, UM, I, I THINK OVERALL, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE A LIFESTYLE COMPONENT.
UM, SOMETHING, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE RESIDENTS, UH, WE THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA LOVE.
WE HAVE TENANTS, WE KNOW THE RESIDENTS ARE GONNA LOVE.
UM, WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME WORK, PLAY, SHOP, LIVE, UM, AND REALLY KIND OF ENJOY THIS AS AN ALL DAY ACTIVITY TO KIND TO COME TO THIS CENTER AND, UM, SPEND MONEY IN THIS CITY.
SO, UM, OPEN FOR QUESTIONS AND, UM, THAT'S REALLY IT ON MY SIDE.
I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, SO LET'S, LET'S GO.
UM, SO FIRST ONE, HAVE YOU PROVIDED US WITH A WATER DISTRIBUTION MODEL ALREADY? UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, ANTHONY HAVE, HAVE WATER DISTRIBUTION MODEL.
SO THE, THE WATER PROVIDER, SORRY, I CAN SPEAK.
UH, MY NAME'S ANTHONY ANIS WITH KIMLEY HORN.
I'M CIVIL ENGINEER REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER.
UM, SO THE, THE WATER NETWORK, IT'S, UH, TEXAS WATER UTILITIES IS THE WATER PROVIDER OUT HERE.
UM, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THEM TO GO THROUGH THE INITIAL ENTITLEMENTS.
UH, WE, THE NEXT STEP IS WE'RE REQUESTING A FIRE FLOW MODEL.
AND FROM THERE WE'LL ACTUALLY DESIGN THE WATER NETWORK.
UM, I WAS TOLD YOU GUYS WILL BE ATTACHING TO MONARCH.
THAT'S THE WATER YOU WILL BE USING.
MONARCH IS NOW TEXAS WATER UTILITIES.
SO AT SOME POINT ARE YOU GOING TO PLAN TO BE USING LIKE OUR WATER, THE CITY WATER, CITY OF KYLE WATER? NO, IT WOULD, IT WOULD ALL BE, UH, TEXAS WATER, UTILITIES.
WATER, UH, FROM LIKE THE MOMENT YOU BREAK AROUND UNTIL THE END OF THE TUR, WELL THAT CORRECT.
UM, WILL YOU HAVE TO DO ANY INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES? LIKE, LIKE INCREASING OFF THE LINES OR ANYTHING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THEY, OR THAT THEY HAVE FOR TEXAS WATER UTILITIES.
UM, NO, WE ALREADY HAVE A STUDY DONE WITH THEM.
UM, AND WE WERE TOLD THAT WE JUST NEED TO CONNECT TO THE, UH, I'M GONNA MIX IT UP, BUT THERE'S A 12 INCH AND AN EIGHT INCH, UH, CLOSE TO OUR SITE.
ONE OF THEM'S AT AMBERWOOD SOUTH, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, I BELIEVE IT'S FOR PUBLIC DRIVE, UM, WHICH IS ABOUT 500 FEET AWAY FROM OUR PROPERTY.
UM, SO WE WOULD BE CONNECTING TO THOSE TWO LINES, FORMING CIRCULATION, WHICH WILL THEN JUST INCREASE THE WATER PRESSURE IN THE, UH, SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
UM, THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS LIKE, UM, WOULD YOU GUYS BE OKAY TO HAVE ARTIFICIAL TURF IN ALL THE ENTIRE COMPLEX? UM, WELL, AS, AS FAR AS THE GREEN SPACE GOES, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE, YES.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT, YOU GUYS ARE ASKING FOR A HUGE INCENTIVE.
SO, UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE FROM KYLE HAS SPOKEN THAT THEY NEED IN A GROCERY STORE IS ONE OF THEM.
SO, THIS PAST WEEK I WENT, I ALWAYS GO TO TRADER JOE'S IN AUSTIN.
'CAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER TRADER JOE'S AROUND HERE.
SO I TAKE THAT TRIP 45 MINUTES JUST TO GO AND GET MY THINGS.
SO THIS HUB IS A PERFECT RETAIL HUB FOR A TRADER JOE'S OR FOR A NATURAL, NATURAL GROCERS AND ALL THIS
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KROGER.ARE YOU PLANNING TO BRING A GROCER? 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE MY VOTE DEPENDS ON THAT.
WE, WE, WE DEF WE WE WOULD LOVE A GROCER.
THERE, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING BETTER FOR THIS PROJECT THAN A GROCER.
UM, WE HAVE TALKED WITH TRADER JOE'S.
UM, THIS MARKET IS NOT SOMEWHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.
UM, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY, UH, WE WOULD, IF WE COULD GET A GROCER, WE WANT ONE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT OUT OF, OUT OF THE SITE TO TRY TO FIND ONE.
UM, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T MAKE THEM GO SOMEWHERE.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE AN INCENTIVE IF THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A GROCERY STORE THERE.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PUT IN THAT DE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WELL, WE, WE, I MEAN, WE CAN'T BASE OUR DEVELOPMENT OFF OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT A GROCER COMES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THESE TENANTS, THE RETAIL TENANTS, THEY HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BULLETS THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND IN, IN, AROUND THE COUNTRY.
UM, WHILE WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIGHT AS BEST WE CAN TO GET 'EM HERE, UM, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, PUT OUR WHOLE PROJECT ON THE LINE JUST BECAUSE THE GROCER DECIDES, HEY, THIS ISN'T THE MARKET WE'RE GONNA BE IN TODAY.
IS THERE ANY WAY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS ARE HERE, THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE TERM OF THE TUR IF THE GROCERY STORE DOESN'T COME TO THIS DEVELOPMENT? UM, I MEAN, I, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS, BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, WE, WE WANT, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
THERE'S NOTHING BETTER FOR US.
I KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THIS.
AND THEN, I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANNA USE THE BATHROOM, BUT WE'RE SCREWED AND WE DON'T HAVE A GROCERY STORE THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN SET.
THE NEXT THING IS LIKE, I LOVE ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND I LOVE THE ARCHITECTURE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ENTERTAINMENT.
I DID SEE THAT YOU HAVE ENTERTAINMENT IN THERE.
AND I WANNA KNOW WHAT KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE FOOD.
UM, I, I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE THERE.
UM, TODAY, I, I DON'T KNOW THE ENTERTAINMENT USER THAT'S GONNA BE THERE.
UM, BUT WITHOUT IT, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND THIS IS A SUGGESTION, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN, UM, CHILDREN, DISCOVERY PLAY CENTER, SOMETHING LIKE MY MUSEUM, SMALL VERSION OF THEUM, PLAY STREET MUSEUM IN SUNSET VALLEY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I KNOW PARENTS AND MOMS ARE ASKING FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE JUST APPROVE A, A PLAY, UM, SPLASH PAD THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THE KIDS WILL BE ABLE TO USE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, I MEAN, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO THE INCENTIVE.
IF WE ARE GONNA DO THAT, THEN WE NEED SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE FROM KYLE WANT AND SOMETHING INDOORS THAT WHERE MOMS SCHOOLS CAN GO AND TOUR.
THOSE ARE MY BIGGEST ASKS, ENTERTAINMENT FOR CHILDREN IN A GROCERY STORE.
WELL, I, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING, I HAVE A FOUR YEAR OLD AND A TWO YEAR OLD, AND EVERY WEEKEND ALL WE DO IS TRY TO GO FIND SOMEWHERE A GREEN SPACE OR ACTIVITIES, ENTERTAINMENT.
AND SO IT'S TOO HOT TO BE OUTSIDE
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I CAN SAY IS, IS THIS SITE HAS REALLY KIND OF BEEN MARKETED KIND OF UNDER THE TABLE, IF YOU WILL.
I MEAN, WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE A DEAL WITH THE CITY, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY BUILD AND DEVELOP.
AND, UM, FOR US TO GO OUT ON A LIMB AND, AND GO OUT AND PRETEND LIKE WE HAVE A PROJECT BEFORE THIS PROJECT IS REALLY DONE, UM, WE JUST, WE HAVEN'T PUT FULL MARKETING EFFORTS OUT THERE FOR IT YET.
UM, AND SO AS SOON AS WE, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY GET THE APPROVAL, I MEAN, WE HAVE TENANTS THAT WANT TO BE HERE, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE TENANTS, AS THEY KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT MEMORIALIZES AND BECOMES FRUITION, THEY'RE, WE'RE GONNA START GETTING A LOT MORE TRACTION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A CONTINGENCY FOR A GROCERY STORE, AND MAYBE THE FINANCIALS WILL BE DIFFERENT IF THE GROCERY STORE DOESN'T COME.
AND I HAVE TO RESPOND TO PEOPLE.
I'M LIKE, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? AND THERE'S NO GROCERY STORE.
YOU KNOW? NOW IF YOU'RE TELLING ME WE WILL BRING YOU ONE, IF, IF, IF WE KNEW WE COULD BRING YOU ONE, WE WOULD.
I MEAN, AGAIN, IT, IT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT HELPS OUR PROJECT MORE THAN A GROCERY STORE.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HANG THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT, HEY, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET A GROCERY STORE, THEN NOTHING, NOTHING WILL WORK.
AND ALL OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE TIME AND, AND EFFORT IS, IS OUT THE WINDOW.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF WE, WE WE'RE TALKING TO ALL OF THEM AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO BRING 'EM HERE AND, AND WE HOPE WE CAN GET ONE.
BUT HOPE IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ME.
WELL, WE DO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE FINANCIALS A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
HE IS OUR FINANCIAL CONSULTANT.
UM, HE'S TAKEN A KNEE OVER HERE JUST IN CASE HE NEEDS TO JUMP IN
BUT, BUT, UH, WE CAN WAIT AND DO THAT ALL AT ONE TIME, IF YOU'D LIKE, WITH OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL OR, OR TRY TO ANSWER IT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S STATED.
LIKE, AND, AND THEN IT GETS EXPLAINED LATER ON.
WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT 'CAUSE WE'RE FLOOR SCALE.
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THANK YOU.I FEEL LIKE THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
AND I THINK IT'S AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY FOR KYLE.
I THINK, UM, AS WE'VE STATED BEFORE, IT'S A WIN FOR KYLE.
UM, GROCERY STORES, I THINK BELONG ON THE EAST, BUT MAYBE ON THE SOUTHEAST.
UM, BECAUSE IF YOU PUT A GROCERY STORE THERE, IT'LL BE WITHIN A MILE OF TWO OTHER GROCERY STORES.
SO I AM NOT GONNA MAKE MY VOTE CONTINGENT ON A GROCERY STORE BEING THERE, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE OTHER PLACES IN KYLE THAT HAVE A MUCH BIGGER NEED, UM, THAN ACROSS THE STREET FROM COSTCO AND H E B.
SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS.
I, I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SHADE.
UM, I LIKE THE, ALL THE ASPECTS OF THE FAMILY AND THE KIDS.
AND WE UNDERSTAND SUMMERS ARE HOT, UH, IN TEXAS.
BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, WINTER, EVERY OTHER, UH, SEASON IS BEAUTIFUL.
AND SO GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OUR KIDS HAVE AN OUTDOOR SPACE, I THINK IS A BIG DEAL.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A MUSEUM OF SOME SORT OUT THERE.
UM, SOME KIND OF CHILD'S, I I'M NOT GONNA DEMAND IT 'CAUSE IF NOT, WE JUST PUT 'EM OUTSIDE, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT SOME KINDA LEARNINGS THAT ARE WOULD BE NICE.
UM, BUT OVERALL, I'D LOVE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO BRING AND, AND THE IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE.
THE PICTURES THAT I SEE ON HERE ARE AMAZING.
IT'S A GREAT WAY TO BRING, UH, KYLE CULTURE AND ART TO KYLE.
SO I APPLAUD YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO BRING THE HISTORY OF KYLE TO THAT AREA, UH, SOME MURIELS OR WHATEVER, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED AS WELL.
SO, UM, I, I, OVERALL, I LOVE IT.
YOU KNOW THE COMMENTS, BRIAN, YOU NEED DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL? UH, YES SIR.
WOULD, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION WAS TO, UH, PRESENT THIS TO YOU PUBLICLY AND TO SEE IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT ME TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS AND TO BRING FORWARD A, A VARIETY OF OTHER ITEMS THAT'LL NEED TO COME TO YOU, WHICH WOULD BE THE TS DISTRICT, THE ZONING, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON YOUR AGENDA, WHICH WE'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE UP TO GET STARTED WITH SOME OF THAT.
BUT THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION I'M LOOKING FOR, MAYOR.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE FINANCIALS AS WELL.
BUT IF YOU'RE READY JUST TO, TO, TO MOVE ON WITH THAT, WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT AS WELL.
WELL, THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL.
UM, THE, THE, UM, YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS THIS, THAT IT'S BEING PROPOSED AS A COUNTY CITY TERRACE, MEANING THAT THE COUNTY WOULD PARTICIPATE AS WELL.
HAVE THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY? ARE THEY AWARE OF THIS PROJECT? DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA SUPPORT IT FROM THEIR END? THEY'RE AWARE OF IT.
WE BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE FAVORABLE TOWARDS THE PROJECT AS WELL.
AND WE'VE HAD SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
AND I KNOW THE DEVELOPERS HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL, BUT WE, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT AS WELL FOR SOME OF THE REASONS THAT I THINK ANDREW POINTED OUT OF THE LEAKAGE GOING OUT OF NOT ONLY KYLE, BUT HAYES COUNTY AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, YEAH.
SO THIS IS A, A SIMILAR, UH, PROJECT AS THE NEW BRAUNFELS SQUARED ONE.
YOU SAID NEWQUEST WAS INVOLVED IN THAT ONE? UH, 2006? UH, I WOULDN'T SAY, I MEAN, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR.
SIMILAR IN, UM, THE, THIS ONE HAS A MUCH MORE, UH, INTRICATE GREEN SPACE COMPONENT MM-HMM.
AND, AND WHEN YOU DEVELOP IT, I MEAN, RETAIL, AS WE ALL KNOW, HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
THE BOXES HAVE GOTTEN SMALLER.
YOU KNOW, THE AMAZON HAS GOTTEN LARGER ONLINE MM-HMM.
AND, AND SO, UM, IT, IT CHANGES.
UM, YOU KNOW, RETAILERS USED TO NOT WANT BOWLING CENTERS IN THEIR, THEIR DEVELOPMENTS.
RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY WANTS A BOWLING CENTER AND SOME SORT OF ENTERTAINMENT.
AND SO WOULD YOU SEE LIKE A BARNES AND NOBLES IN HERE? SOMETHING OF THAT TYPE? WE, WE WOULD LOVE ONE.
AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE AT EVERY, YOU KNOW, SHOW EVERY I C S C MM-HMM.
AND, UH, WE, AGAIN, WE REPRESENT OVER A HUNDRED NATIONAL CREDIT, UH, RETAILERS.
SO WE'RE IN FRONT OF ALL OF THEM KNOWING WHERE THEY WANT TO GO, KNOWING WHERE THEY WANT TO BE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IF WE COULD, WE, WE WOULD LOVE 'EM.
I MEAN, AGAIN, THE BIG, THE BIGGEST MIXED USE OF ALL THE TENANTS THAT WE COULD FIND IN THIS CENTER REALLY HELP DRAW THE, THE LIFESTYLE COMPONENT, DRAW RESIDENTS IN TO MAKE IT MORE OF A DESTINATION, UH, UH, CENTER.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, AGAIN, TO MAKE EVERYBODY SUCCESSFUL.
AND SO, IN CONTRAST, THIS ONE WILL HAVE THE GOLF CARTS AND CONNECTIVITY TO THE VIBE.
AND NEW BRAUNFELS DOES NOT HAVE THAT PART.
'CAUSE THAT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE.
AND, UH, YEAH, IT'S, I, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE LEAKAGE PART OF WHAT YOU DISCUSSED, SO, PERFECT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CUSTOMER HEISER? I THOUGHT I SAW YOUR HAND UP.
I CAN'T TELL FOR SURE IF YOU'RE, NO, I'M OKAY.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU'D LIKE THE DIRECTION ON THIS ITEM? YES SIR.
I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED, UH, DEVELOPING THE
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ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS AND BRINGING BACK THE ITEMS RELATED TO PROJECT HOP PURSUIT.SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES K'S THE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
[10. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding Project Chia Pet. ~ Victoria Vargas, Director of Economic Development]
IS RE UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD THE DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING PROJECT CHIA PET.
BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND AS I BRING UP THE NEW PROJECT.
OKAY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE ANOTHER EXCITING PROJECT TO SHARE WITH YOU.
WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH THESE, THESE PROJECT NAMES.
UM,
UM, LET ME MAKE THE BIG REVEAL HERE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A FOUR ACRE TRACT OF LAND, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF 1626, AND KOHLER'S CROSSING JUST NORTH OF HEROES MEMORIAL PARK.
IT'S THE ENTRANCE TO OUR BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT.
IT'S A 23,000 SQUARE FOOT SPROUTS GROCERY STORE, AND THREE ADDITIONAL RETAIL SHOP BUILDINGS TOTALING, UH, ABOUT 40,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEVELOPER HERE, ZACH ROGERS.
UH, HE'LL GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF PRESENTATION, UH, ON UH, G B T AND THEN ON THE SPROUTS PROJECT AND THE RETAIL COMPONENT.
AND YOU CAN ASK HIM QUESTIONS.
UM, YEAH, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO FORWARD IT RIGHT THERE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING THIS, UH, CASE TONIGHT.
UH, MY NAME IS ZACH ROGERS WITH G B T REALTY CORPORATION.
UH, WE ARE LOCATED IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE.
UM, WE TOO HAVE A NATIONAL, UH, FOOTPRINT WITH MANY OF THE SAME RETAILERS AT NEWQUEST DODGERS IN DIFFERENT REGIONS.
UH, MOST OF OUR SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN BIG.
SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN IN THE SOUTHEAST REGION.
UH, WE DO HAVE A, A PRETTY WIDE FOOTPRINT IN TEXAS AS WELL.
UM, WE HAVE OUR PRIMARY, PRIMARILY A RETAIL DEVELOPER.
UM, WE'VE DONE ALMOST $800 GENERALS WHEN THE MARKET TURNED IN 2009.
SO WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING BIG, SMALL IN BETWEEN.
UM, WE'VE FORMED RELATIONSHIPS AND KEPT RELATIONSHIPS, AND THEY'VE TRUSTED US TO EXPAND THEIR FOOTPRINT, WHICH HAS ALLOWED US TO GO INTO NEW MARKETS.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE DEVELOPED A RELATIONSHIP WITH SPROUT'S FARMER'S MARKET, MAINLY IN THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA, AND NOW IN THE AUSTIN SLASH KYLE AREA.
AND THIS PARTICULAR SITE, WHICH YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF, UM, IS, IS VERY EXCITING.
UM, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT CENTER ANCHORED BY SPROUTS WITH, WITH THE SHOPS BUILDINGS AS WELL.
HERE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF SOME RECENT WORK THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, FLORIDA, ALABAMA, TENNESSEE.
UH, WE JUST FINISHED ONE IN, IN DALLAS, THE HEART OF DALLAS.
WE FINISHED ONE OR ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN FORT WORTH, ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN MCKINNEY, TEXAS, JUST NORTH OF DALLAS.
UM, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE IN THE PIPELINE, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY MOST EXCITED IN SPROUTS AS WELL ABOUT THIS KYLE, TEXAS OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO VICTORIA AND LIKELY TO COUNSEL AS A STARTING POINT FOR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS, AGAIN, A STARTING POINT.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
WE'RE VERY EARLY IN DESIGN PROCESSES.
UM, SO THIS IS MORE JUST OPEN DISCUSSION OF WHAT YOU LIKE, WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE.
UH, I KNOW SOME IMAGES HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH ME WITH SOME ELEMENTS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE US TO BRING INTO THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE ARE ALL OPEN EARS, UH, 'CAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE VISION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR THIS AREA, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH MO MARK AND WHAT, WHAT ARE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE PLUM CREEK AREA.
SO TO THAT END, UM, OUR OFFICIAL INCENTIVE REQUESTS AND AND TERMS, UH, HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH VICTORIA AND LIKELY YOU ALL, UM, PART TAX ABATEMENT OR REBATES AND PART ADDITIONAL GRANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO INCLUDE THE ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENTS
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TO MAKE THIS CENTER SPROUTS IN PARTICULAR, AND ALSO THE SHOPS ALONG CROMWELL AND ACTIVATING CROMWELL, UH, AS BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN.UM, AGAIN, TO, TO BUY INTO THE VISION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO THIS RIGHT AND, UM, AND MOVE FORWARD AS BEST WE CAN.
UM, WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE APPLICANT? I JUST WANNA SAY I'M SUPER EXCITED.
I CAN ALREADY SEE MYSELF BUYING PUMPKINS THERE NEXT YEAR.
IF THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED WITH US PROCEEDING WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THIS INCENTIVE REQUEST THAT YOU WOULD GIVE ME DIRECTION TO PROCEED AND BRING BACK A, A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THESE TERMS. COUNCILOR BRECHO.
WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE THE MOTION.
SO, UH, MOTION TO, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT,
MOTION TO BRING BACK A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR SECOND PROJECT.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, GIVING DIRECTION TO STAFF TO BRING THIS, UH, THIS DEAL BACK IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
ALL OPPOSED? ALL MOTION CARRIES.
[VII. Consent Agenda]
UP IS, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 11 THROUGH 13.DOES ANYBODY HAVE A REQUEST TO PULL INTO OF THESE ITEMS? COUNCIL MEMBER KEL? YES.
JUST TO BE CONSISTENT, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, PULL AGENDA ITEM 1211 AND, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE
[VIII. Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
GONNA DO 'EM ONE AT A TIME.SO FIRST UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.
FIRST RATING AND ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER OR AMENDING ORDINANCE 1178 REPEALING ORDINANCE 1242, ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION AMENDING ORDINANCE 8 53 AND REPEALING ORDINANCE 1189, SECTION EIGHT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM BOARD, AND AMENDING ORDINANCE 9 61 ETHICS COMMISSION.
UH, THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED BY MS, UH, SCHMITZ.
ANYTHING TO ADD ON IT FOR ME TO PULL IT? OH, YES, SORRY.
I WAS THINKING, UH, I'M, I MESSED UP.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO SLOW DOWN A BIT AND RECONSIDER THE REPEAL OF THE ORDINANCE 1242 AND KEEP THE CULTURAL PART IN THE ARTS COMMISSION BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS MADE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
COMMENTS ON THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER FLOKI.
UM, WELL, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD.
UM, THAT'S IT THAT I'VE HEARD.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY CULTURAL EVENTS.
THOSE THAT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED, THAT WAS, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GOT BROUGHT ABOUT.
UM, CULTURAL EVENTS HAVE BEEN HELD WITHIN THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME AT THE PARKS BOARD AND, UH, WITH THE LIBRARY.
SO WHEN, UH, WE DECIDED TO ADD IT TO, UM, THE ART, I THOUGHT IT WOULD, IT WOULDN'T, WE WOULD FOCUS ON BOTH.
BUT, UM, WE, I NEED EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS JUST EVENTS.
WE'RE NOT SAYING, HEY, THERE CAN BE NO CULTURE IN ARTS.
IN FACT, AS IT'S BEEN STATED TIME AND TIME AGAIN, UH, PART OF ART IS CULTURE.
SO, UM, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT, UM, THAT THE, THAT THE ART COMMISSION IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO BRING ANY KIND OF CULTURAL ART THEY WANT TO THE CITY THAT THAT'S STILL, UM, A GIVEN.
AND SO THAT'S NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE.
UM, SO THE IDEA THAT WE'RE NOT INCLUDING CULTURE IN ART IS INACCURATE.
THEY CAN STILL BRING WHATEVER CULTURE, ART PROJECTS THEY LIKE.
IN FACT, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE IT AND I ANTICIPATE IT HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY CANCELED THEIR MEETING FOR THIS MONTH, BUT HOPEFULLY BY NEXT MONTH WE COULD SEE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT ART TAKES TIME.
UM, AND MY CON MY MY, MY MAIN CONCERN WAS IT TAKES EVENTS TAKE A LOT OF TIME AS WELL.
AND SO WHEN WE DECIDED ANYBODY WHO WATCHED THE ARTS COMMISSION BEING BUILT, UM, AND THEY UNDER, THEY SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD WHAT OUR GOAL WAS.
UM, AND AT THAT POINT IT WAS TO BRING SOME TYPE OF, UM, ART TO THE CITY.
IT'S SOMETHING AS, AS SMALL AS A MURAL OR A PAINTING.
UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER SEEN THAT.
AND IT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T TAKE, UH, ANY MORE THAN HOPEFULLY ONE OR TWO MEETINGS.
UM, AND WITH THAT SAID, I, I WANT THE ART COMMISSION
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TO BE THE ART COMMISSION.AND IF LATER ON THEY WANNA INCORPORATE THE EVENTS, THE CULTURAL EVENTS INTO IT, AFTER THE ART IS ESTABLISHED, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK THIS WAS A REALLY NEW COMMISSION.
AND TO GIVE IT TWO JOB DUTIES WAS PROBABLY BEYOND, UM, OUR SCOPE OF UNDERSTANDING, AT LEAST MINE.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, IF THEY WANTED, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO EVENTS, CULTURAL EVENTS, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO JOIN THE OTHER BOARDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DOING IT, DID IT IN THE PAST, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE.
SO I WANTED TO SHARE A FEW THINGS THAT I LEARNED IN TALKING TO MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ON THE, WERE ON THE ARTS AND CULTURAL BOARD.
UM, THE REASON THEY FEEL, WELL, THE REASON THE, THE FEELING IS FELT VERY STRONGLY TO KEEP THE CULTURAL IN THE ARTS COMMISSION IS BECAUSE THEY REALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GIVE THE CITY AN ENTIRELY BETTER EXPERIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING CULTURE AND HISTORY.
AND SOME OF THE EXAMPLES ARE THAT WHEN THEY CO COOPERATE WITH THE PARKS OR WITH THE LIBRARY, THEY HAVE SOMETIMES BETTER INFORMATION, BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF SOME OF THE, THE, THE HISTORY THEY HAVE, THE RESOURCES AND THE NETWORK, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO BUILD AND TAKE THE CULTURAL PART THAT THE LIBRARY SUPPOSEDLY CAN DO TO A LITTLE HIGHER LEVEL.
FOR EXAMPLE, MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY, WHEN THE LIBRARY WAS DOING SOMETHING FOR THAT DAY, THEY HAD A BOOK EVENT, BUT THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION TURNED THAT INTO MORE OF A, OF A, OF A COMMUNITY DIALOGUE EVENT.
THEY, THEY REALLY, UH, TOOK THAT TO A HIGHER, UH, SPEAKER LEVEL.
ANOTHER, ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS WHEN THE PARKS DID A, UH, SQUEEZE BOX EVENT, THEY WORKED WITH THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION TO NOT JUST HAVE MUSIC EVENTS OUT THERE, BUT ALSO TELL THE STORY OF THE HISPANICS IN KYLE.
THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THAT SENSE OF, OF UNDERSTANDING AND OF KNOWLEDGE, OF, AND, AND OF ENRICHING THESE EXPERIENCES.
ANOTHER THIRD EXAMPLE IS WHEN THEY DID ASIAN AMERICAN, UM, UM, CULTURAL DAY, UH, THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION WENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, TALKED TO RES RESTAURANTS, TO, TO HELP, UH, PROVIDE MORE THIS ASIAN TYPES OF, TYPES OF FOODS TO BRING TO THE LIBRARY SO THAT THE ASIAN AMERICAN CULTURAL DAY WOULD BE THAT MUCH MORE EXPERIENCED IN FOOD AND, AND, AND IN HISTORY.
AND IT, AND, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO SHARE MUCH MORE EXPERIENCES.
SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD ASK THIS COUNCIL TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE REMOVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM A COMMISSION.
AND WE TRY TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO JUST ART.
AND IN MY OPINION, IT CANNOT BE SEPARATED.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MOTIONS TO APPROVE OR TO WHAT? OR I DON'T KNOW IF HE DID A, IT'S NO IDEA SAID TO NOT REPEAL THE ORDINANCE WAS MINE.
IS THAT A MOTION? I DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND.
NO, WE, WE NEED A CLEAR MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THE MOTION IS TO NOT REPEAL THE ORDINANCE 1242, WHICH REMOVES CULTURAL FROM THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
UH, MOTION BY COUNCILL ZUNIGA, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TOBIAS OR MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? DOES THAT AFFECT THAT THE WAY THAT MOTION WAS WORDED? DOES THAT AFFECT THE REMAINDER OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT OF DEBATE? MAYOR PAGE SIGNED CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD, I TAKE THAT AS HE'S, THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL ON ONE ASPECT OF THIS ORDINANCE.
SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD INTERPRET THAT.
SO ALL OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS OF THE CONSENT ITEM PREVAIL THOUGH, I, I THINK, IS THAT THE QUESTION? I THINK WE ONLY HAVE DIRECTION ON ONE ASPECT OF IT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE ORDINANCE, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER MOTION TO, FOR WHATEVER OTHER FOUR PARTS OF THE ORDINANCE, IF YOU WANTED TO APPROVE THOSE OR DENY THOSE.
ALRIGHT, SO TWO VOTES IS WHAT? TWO, WHERE YOU'RE AT.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY COMMENT ON THIS IS THAT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE HOW MANY EVENTS.
I DON'T THINK THE WORD CULTURE IS ACTUALLY THE ISSUE THAT'S REALLY AT PLAY HERE.
I THINK IT'S REALLY A QUESTION OF FOUR OR FIVE EVENTS AND A CERTAIN, A CERTAIN WAY OF USING THE, THE BUDGET
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THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DRILL DOWN ON.SO AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WHETHER WE ELIMINATE THE WORD CULTURE OR WE DON'T ELIMINATE THE WORD CULTURE, WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO.
AND THAT'S JUST TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR FROM THAT GROUP.
AND WHETHER A FEW OF THE SPECIFIC EVENTS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED AS BEING SORT OF HAVING MULTIPLE GROUPS THAT WANT TO DO THEM, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH THOSE PARTICULAR EVENTS? WE NEED TO ASSIGN THOSE EVENTS TO AN ORGANIZATION.
OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE DON'T TAKE A VOTE ON THIS, THERE'S PROBLEMS ARE STILL GOING TO PERSIST.
COUNCILOR PARSLEY, I JUST WANNA MAKE CLEAR, NOBODY'S TAKING ANY EVENTS AWAY.
NOBODY IS REMOVING ANY OF THE DIALOGUES.
I APPRECIATE OUR CITY MANAGER PUTTING ON THE LAST REPORT ALL OF THE CULTURAL EVENTS THAT THE CITY OF KYLE CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND I THINK THAT THERE WERE SOME MISSING.
UH, THERE WERE SOME PARADES THAT WERE MISSING.
UM, THE INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY AND THE THINGS THAT THE PARK DID ARE MISSING FROM HERE.
SO WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAN THIS.
UM, I SEE THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT HAS ALL THE DIALOGUES INCLUDED UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA.
SO NO EVENT IS GOING ANYWHERE.
I WAS READING AGAIN, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ARTS BOARD WHEN IT WAS CREATED.
AND THE JOB THAT DIDN'T CHANGE IN NOVEMBER, OCTOBER, WHEN THE CULTURAL GOT ADDED.
IT SAYS IT SHALL SERVE IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS RELATING TO THE ARTS ACTIVITIES, ARTS EVENTS, AND ART PROJECTS THAT WILL BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS.
SO ALL WE ARE DOING IS BASICALLY ASSIGNING SOME OF THE BASIC, ALL OF THE CULTURAL EVENTS.
SOME WILL GO TO THE LIBRARY OR HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE LIBRARY, A PART OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AND A PART OF THE PARKS.
WE EMBRACE THEM, WE LOVE THEM.
I ACTUALLY HAD A DISCUSSION WITH BRIAN REGARDING SOME OF THE DIALOGUES AND ADDITIONAL DIALOGUES THAT WE MIGHT WANNA BRING.
SO ALL WE WANTED IS TO KEEP IT CLEAN, GIVE A TASK OR DIRECTION ON WHAT THE ARTISTIC FEATURES WE WANTED TO SEE.
SO THE VOTE IS TO ELIMINATE THE ELIMINATION OF THE CULTURAL ASPECTS AND ALLOW THAT NAME TO PERSIST WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE DO THAT, WE STILL HAVE TO DECIDE WHO HANDLES THESE EVENTS.
SO EITHER WAY IT GOES, WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
I THOUGHT IT WAS STATED ON THE MANAGER'S REPORT.
WHO HANDLES THESE EVENTS? PUBLIC LIBRARY.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL IS.
BUT IF THIS VOTE FAILS, THEN THAT WOULD BE UNDONE.
AND THE QUESTION OF WHO'S CONTROLLING WHAT EVENTS WOULD RESUME, I WOULD ASSUME THAT'S THE WAY THAT OTHERWISE, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? I'M TRY TO PROVIDE A LITTLE CLARITY.
SO THE EVENTS, THE SUMMARY OF EVENTS THAT I PROVIDED IN THE FRIDAY REPORT, UM, ARE ALL EVENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDED AND THEY ARE INDIVIDUALIZED BY DEPARTMENTS.
SO THERE'S, THE LIBRARY DOES SOME, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DOES SEVERAL.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE SPLIT UP ACROSS THE CITY ORGANIZATION.
THIS CHANGE IS A RESULT OF THE COUNCIL'S, UH, DISCUSSION A FEW WEEKS AGO TO, TO RESTRUCTURE SOME OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND TO CHANGE SOME ELEMENTS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS TO DO, IS TO REMOVE THE CULTURAL ASPECT THAT THE DISCUSSION THE COUNCIL HAD WAS TO MAKE THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION SOLELY FOCUSED ON ARTS.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS ELEMENT DOES.
BUT A LOT OF THE OTHER EVENTS ARE STILL OUT THERE.
IF THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT DO, WOULD YOU WANT TO REORGANIZE WHO DOES WHAT AND HOW THOSE ARE DONE, UH, THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE HAD, BUT, UH, THOSE ARE ALREADY EXISTING EVENTS THAT ARE THERE.
HOPEFULLY THAT, DOES THAT PROVIDE CLARITY TO THE ISSUE? MM-HMM.
WELL, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I, I THINK, I THINK THE POINT OF THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION AS I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A FEW WEEKS AGO, IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CULTURAL EVENTS ALREADY BEING DONE IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND UM, SHOULD THEY BE CENTRALIZED HERE OR SHOULD THEY REMAIN AS THEY WERE? THAT'S, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, PART DEPARTMENT, I THINK LIKE THE LIBRARY IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB WITH ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT, LIKE A LOT OF THE CULTURAL EVENTS AND OUR PARKS DO A LOT OF THE EVENTS, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS DOING THE SAME.
I, I BELIEVE THAT THE FOCUS WE WANTED WAS TO ALLOW FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION TO FOCUS ON THE ART ACTIVITIES, THE ART EVENTS, AND THE ART
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PROJECTS, WHICH IS STATED ON THE JOB DESCRIPTION.NOW, AN ART ARTISTIC EVENT, IF THERE IS A DANCE FOLKLORIC, I DUNNO HOW YOU WANNA CALL IT, THAT WILL BE A REPRESENTATION OF ART AND CULTURE.
DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE THE CULTURAL NAME? IT'S ARTISTIC.
ALL, ALL I CAN SAY IS THE, THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION BOARD THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE HELP FACILITATE MAKING ALL OF THOSE LIBRARY EVENTS AND PARK EVENTS MUCH, MUCH RICHER, MUCH, MUCH BETTER, MUCH MORE IN LIGHTING, MUCH MORE HISTORICAL.
SO WE HAVE THOSE GREAT EVENTS BECAUSE WE HAD THAT BOARD.
SO IF WE START CUTTING BACK ON IT, WE COULD, IT'S A STEP BACKWARDS.
C CAN WE JUST HAVE A, A LISTING OF THE EVENTS THAT THE ARTS AND CULTURE BOARD.
COLLEEN, DO YOU WANT, WANTS TO, DO YOU NEED, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
SO WHAT ARE THE EVENTS THAT THE, THAT THE ARTS AND CULTURE BOARD WANTS TO OWN AND OPERATE AND MANAGE, USE, USE FUNDS FOR? IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC EVENTS AND MAKE DECISIONS ON THOSE? I JUST DON'T SEE THAT THIS PARTICULAR ACTION IS GONNA NECESSARILY, EVERYBODY'S GONNA WALK OUT STILL NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO.
CORRECT? I I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE BOARD WANTED TO OWN ANY OF THE EVENTS.
AND MS. VANESSA, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT JUST TO PARTICIPATE AS THEIR BOARD AND REPRESENTED.
SO THEY WANTED TO ADD ON, I BELIEVE, TO ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT WERE CURRENTLY IN PLACE, POSSIBLY SOME NEW ONES.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT FAR IN THAT DISCUSSION.
I SAW, I SAW, I, I'M WITH MAYOR MITCHELL.
THIS, THIS VOTE THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE ISN'T GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU GUYS CAN CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT IF THE EVENTS STILL GO ON THROUGH OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, IF THE DIALOGUE IS NE IS GONNA BE WITH COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH IT SHOULD BE, THEN I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA MASK IT AND SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE NAME THERE AND THEN WE COULD TAKE THE EVENTS AND PUT 'EM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
SO FOR ME, I FEEL LIKE THE, UM, PROGRESS FOR PEACE STAYS WITH THE CITY AND WE HAVE SAMANTHA, SAMANTHA, SAMANTHA, OKAY.
WANNA MAKE
UM, YOU KNOW RACHEL, RACHEL DING.
I WAS LIKE, THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT.
UM, SO JUST HAVE HER CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
AND SO THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE A FIGHT FOR ALL RIGHT.
LIKE, WE TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ALTOGETHER.
AND I DON'T, I I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
THERE WAS NEVER A BOARD THAT WAS ASSIGNED, UH, THE PROGRESS FOR PEACE THAT WAS COUNCIL LED.
AND SO IF YOU WANNA TAKE IT AWAY FROM COUNCIL AS WELL, WE GIVE IT TO RACHEL AND THEN, UH, LET THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT HAD THAT.
AND THEN AS FAR AS EVENTS, UM, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I THINK, I THOUGHT, I FELT LIKE OUR LIBRARY BOARD WAS DOING AN AMAZING JOB.
IF THEY WANT, IF WE WANNA GIVE THEM RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO DO BETTER, BETTER EVENTS, I THINK THAT'S DOABLE.
UM, BUT THEN ARE WE GONNA SAY THAT IF WE, THIS IS NOW THE CULTURAL THAT OUR LIBRARY CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE OR THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I, I DON'T KNOW, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO AGAIN, MY HOPE TWO YEARS AGO WAS TO SEE SOME ART WITHIN THE CITY.
WOULD I LIKE TO SEE CULTURAL ART? I WOULD BRING WHATEVER CULTURAL ART YOU'D LIKE TO, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DEFINED.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY IT JUST HAS TO BE CULTURAL ART.
ART COMES IN ALL KINDS OF FORMS AND IT LOOKS ALL KINDS OF WAYS.
SO I, AGAIN, I THINK THAT CULTURAL WILL STILL BE INVOLVED IN THE ART.
IT JUST WON'T BE, UM, IT WON'T BE SOMETHING FOR THEM TO FOCUS AND WORK ON.
IT'LL ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE ORIGINALLY INTENDED, WHICH WAS ART.
SO THE DIALOGUES EVENT, IS THAT THE ONLY ONE? IS THERE ANOTHER ONE? I THOUGHT THEY WERE UNDER COMMUNICATIONS.
IS IT, IS IT ALREADY UNDER COMMUNICATIONS REGARDLESS OF THIS VOTE? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WHAT, RACHEL, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THIS VOTE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER? I THINK WHAT, OUTSIDE OF A WORD, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS, WE DON'T KNOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AMBER OR VANESSA, BUT I, I THINK THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER EVENTS OTHER THAN THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS CURRENTLY.
SO THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DO YOU WANT THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION TO COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL EVENTS OR POTENTIALLY CENTRALIZE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE UNDER THEIR LEADERSHIP? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALL BEING DONE IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
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THAT MAKE SENSE? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.THAT'S HOW IT'S CURRENTLY STRUCTURED.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BOARDS THAT HAVE ANY OTHER EVENTS OR ANYTHING THAT IS UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA? UH, IF THE PARK BOARD, UH, TAKES ON THEIR EVENTS, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY ROLE.
THERE'S PART'S, A VAST MAJORITY OF 'EM IS IN THE PARKS BOARD.
SO THE NAME FOR ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION, UM, IT WAS, I GUESS WHEN THAT WAS CREATED SOMETIME AGO, IT WAS A THOUGHT WAS THERE WOULD BE A MORE, MORE CULTURAL ELEMENT TO IT.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS MATERIALIZED WITH EVENTS CURRENTLY.
DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT'S THE, I THINK THE MISUNDERSTANDING HERE.
BUT THE PEACE AND PROGRESS EVENT IS A SEPARATE EVENT THAT'S NOT BEEN MANAGED BY THAT ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
I'M JUST LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEM.
IF THEY, IF THEY FEEL FASHION THAT THEY WANNA KEEP ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION, UM, RUNNING IN THE CITY.
WE, WE MADE THAT NAME CHANGE, WE FUNDED THEM IN FEBRUARY, NOW WE'RE TELLING THEM WE DON'T WANT IT AND WE'RE GONNA LET LIBRARY HANDLE IT.
PARKS HANDLE IT AGAIN, THEY, THEY HANDLE IT TO BEGIN WITH.
WELL, AND THE 65,000 WAS FOR ART IN SPECIFIC, IT WAS FUNDED UNDER ART DEPARTMENT.
THEY DO HANDLE IT, BUT A LOT OF THE RESEARCH IS COMING FROM THIS, THESE DEDICATED BOARD MEMBERS.
I STILL THINK WE SHOULD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE IS, WE SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION ON EITHER WHERE WE SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE SCOPE NEEDS TO BE, OR WE ALLOW FOR THEM TO MAKE A PRESENTATION OF WHAT THEY WANNA DO, WHICH THEY'VE ALREADY DONE ONCE, BUT THEY CAN MAKE ANOTHER PRESENTATION AND WE COULD ADOPT SPECIFICALLY SO THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT JUST THE WORD OR THE HEADING, WHICH I THINK HAS REALLY SIDETRACKED US FROM THE CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO BE HAVING, WHICH IS WHAT SPECIFICALLY CAN WE GET ALIGNED ON BETWEEN OUR BODY AND AND ARTS AND CULTURE BOARD AND HOW CAN WE ALLEVIATE THAT CONFLICT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S JUST PRETTY MUCH PURE CONFLICT ON THE BASIS OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS OF, UH, DIRECTION.
AND, AND SO WE JUST NEED TO GET CLEAR ON THAT.
SO THIS VOTE DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME THAT MUCH.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO GET CLEAR ON BECAUSE WE, MAY I SAY SOMETHING WHEN WE VISIT THE CITY OF PROSPER AND WE MET WITH THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GOT DISCUSSING HERE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.
THEY TALK ABOUT PROVIDING A TASK FOR THE BOARDS TO DO.
AND I THINK THAT THERE IS NO BETTER, MORE CLEAR DIRECTION THAN THAT.
SO IF, IF, AND THAT'S TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IF, IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO FOCUS ON BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE DIRECTION OF COUNSEL, THEN HOW CAN THEY ALSO DO WHAT THEY WERE INTENDED TO BE DOING? SO EITHER WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO, TO DEFINE THAT OR POSTPONE THIS.
CAN WE POSTPONE THIS ORDINANCE? SURE.
IF YOU'D LIKE, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, CAN I CHANGE MY MOTION TO JUST POSTPONE THIS TILL WE GET MORE FEEDBACK? I, I THINK WHAT YES SIR.
CERTAINLY WE, WE COULD, UM, IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THAT PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE MM-HMM.
AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE CONFLICT.
SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE CLEAR PAGES INDICATING SECTION ONE AND SECTION TWO OF THIS ORDINANCE WOULD NEED TO BE REPEALED BECAUSE THAT RELATES TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION AND ART BOARD.
SO THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY TABLED OR YOU WOULD YOU PASS EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN THAT PIECE? CUSTOMER HEISER.
SO ARE WE POSTPONING THE DISCUSSION OR THE VOTE ON 1242? WELL, I'VE NORMALLY DONE IT WITH A, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON, UH, ORDINANCE 1242.
I DON'T THINK THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS PROPERLY WITHDRAWN, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO MIGUEL, CAN YOU PROPERLY WITHDRAW
IS THAT AMENABLE TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM? THE SECOND? IT WAS THE SECOND, YEAH.
AND BEFORE, BEFORE ANY MOTIONS ARE MADE, JUST TO CLARIFY, IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED, EXCEPT FOR THE PROVISIONS DEALING WITH THE ARTS AND
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CULTURAL COMMISSION, YOU WOULD APPROVE IT WITH THE REMOVING SECTION ONE AND SECTION TWO, JUST AN APPROVAL VOTE.HOW MANY SECTIONS ARE THERE? FOUR.
YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT INCLUDES SEVERABILITY AND YEAH.
EFFECTIVE BACK SECTION TWO, IT HAS TO COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING.
SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY MAYBE FOR US TO GET IN THAT TIME, JUST ONE REALLY GOOD MEETING TO GET CLEAR ON WHAT THE SCOPE IS, AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN PUT THIS TO BED PAGE.
SO IF, IF I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCES 1178 AND 8 53, 8 53 AND 1189, DOES, DOES THAT, ARE WE THEN JUST BY NATURE TABLING 1242 SAY THE, THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11 EXCEPT FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT RELATE TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
AND THAT'S EXCEPT FOR SECTIONS ONE AND, AND TWO.
NO, I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY THAT ON THE ORDINANCE.
I WOULD JUST SAY MORE GENERAL THAN THAT, SO THAT WE CAN BE, GIVE THEM FLEXIBILITY ON THAT.
UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ITEM NUMBER 11, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ORDINANCES APPLYING TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
MOTION BY COUNCILLOR HEISER, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FLORES.
KALE, THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, EXCEPT FOR THOSE ITEMS RELATING TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, APPROVAL RESOLUTION, CREATING SELECTION CRITERIA FOR MODERATOR AND PANELISTS FOR THE DIALOGUES FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS EVENT SERIES AND ESTABLISHING CITY STAFF'S ROLE, MS. SONIER.
UH, DO, UH, THIS IS THE SAME INFORMATION FROM LAST TIME.
I JUST PULLED IT SO I CAN VOTE.
SO, UM, TO, UH, MAYOR PRO, TIM TOBY SHOULD PROBABLY NEED TO MAKE, SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL EVERYBODY GETS BACK TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE, I DON'T WANT TO, I I MEAN WE CAN, BUT I DON'T ASK YOU THE BEST.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A QUORUM SO WE CAN CONTINUE ON WITH THE PRESENTATION.
I'M JUST AFRAID THAT IT'S GONNA FAIL.
WELL IF YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED? WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IT.
IT'S THE SAME PRESENTATION FROM THE JULY 18TH MO UH, MEETING.
ESSENTIALLY JUST PUTTING FORTH CRITERIA FOR BOTH MODERATORS AND PANELISTS.
Y'ALL PASSED IT ON FIRST READING, THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND READING AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS ON CONSENT, BUT IT WAS PULLED, UH, FOR DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAD ALL SEVEN MEMBERS ON THE DIOCESE YEP.
IF YOU WANNA OPEN UP FROM A CONVERSATION WE'VE GOT BEAR BACK OR JUST WAIT ON THE MAYOR.
DID WE, UH, OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
WELL, I AM HERE TO, UM, SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
AND TO MS. BOLS POINT, I DO WISH THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU'RE RUNNING FOR WHATEVER POSITION YOU'RE RUNNING AND YOU'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW IN HERE IN THIS, IS THAT YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE A MODERATOR FOR THESE EVENTS.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S FAIR WITH THE LAW THAT WE POUR ON ON THE LAST EVENT THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KEL IS NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE AS A MODERATOR THIS YEAR.
I KNOW WE ALREADY VOTED ON THIS, BUT IT WILL BE MY ASK THAT THIS COULD, COULD WE, COULD WE LEAVE THE POLICY IN PLACE BUT VOTE FOR AN EXCEPTION THIS TIME? I WOULD BE SUPPORTED THAT, ABSOLUTELY.
I LOOK COUNCILOR HU JUST A SUGGESTION.
[21. Approve a resolution selecting a moderator for the Dialogue for Peace and Progress - Celebrating Hispanic Heritage month. ~ Rachel Sonnier, Director of Communications]
ALSO HAVE THE SELECTION OF THE MODERATOR UP AS ITEM DOWN THE AGENDA.UM, CAN WE BRING THAT FORWARD RIGHT AWAY? IT IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.
IF YOU
WHAT, WHAT NUMBER IS THAT? 21.
UH, APPROVE A RESOLUTION SELECTING A MODERATOR FOR THE DIALOGUE
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FOR PEACE IN PROGRESS, CELEBRATING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.SO WE, WE COMBINING THESE TWO THINGS NOW? YES.
WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY SINCE THIS CAME UP BECAUSE WE WANTED TO, UM, STOP CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR OFFICE FROM USING THIS SEAT ON PIECE AND PROGRESS IS A WAY TO CAMPAIGN.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S FAIR FOR US TO SIT HERE AND MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR OURSELVES WHEN, IF, IF THAT'S 'CAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T CHOOSE TO HAVE THIS BROUGHT UP, LIKE I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO KEEP YOU FROM DOING IT, BUT I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING IF WE'RE JUST GONNA SIT AND MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR OURSELVES WHEN IT'S GONNA CONVENIENT? UH, SO I JUST WANNA, CAN I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND THE BIGGEST ISSUE, AGAIN, IT WAS BECAUSE TWICE IT HAPPENED, SOMEBODY RUNNING, SOMEBODY WASN'T EVEN SITTING IN HERE.
SOMEBODY THAT IS NOT A COUNCIL MEMBER, A MAYOR, BUT RUN FOR THE COUNTY.
SO BEING A MODERATOR DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO ADVERTISE YOURSELF DURING THIS EVENT.
BUT THE MERE YOUR MERE PRESENCE IS AN ADVERTISEMENT AND THAT IS JUST PART OF THE JOB.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S PART OF THE JOB.
BUT LOOK, IF THIS HAD COME UP WHERE WE HAD SAID, ASK FOR A WAIVER THAT AN ANY CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR OFFICE COULD HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID IT TONIGHT.
MAYBE IT CAME FROM HERE, DIANE, IF IT WAS YOU, BUT A WAIVER COULD HAVE BEEN SIGNED.
I COULD'VE GOTTEN ON BOARD WITH THAT FROM JUMP STREET, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ACTION THAT WE CHOSE.
SO AT THIS POINT, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST MAKING EXCEPTIONS.
ALL THE WAIVER WOULD'VE BEEN A SMART THING TO DO, BUT IT'S, WE DIDN'T DO IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS IS STATED AND, UH, MAKE AN EXCEPTION.
AND FOR ITEM 21, TO ALLOW COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES SCALE TO SIGN A WAIVER SAYING SHE'S NOT GONNA ADVERTISE HER CAMPAIGN AND ALLOW ME TO BE MODERATORS FOR THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING SECOND FOR CONVERSATION.
MOTION IS MADE BY CUSTOMER, PARTIALLY SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FOR SCALE.
WE APPROVE THE POLICY, UH, AND THE RESOLUTIONS.
UH, BUT WE MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE SERVICE AND MODERATOR THIS SEPTEMBER.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT? UH, CUSTOMER FOR SCALE? ALRIGHT, SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. HEISER, IS HOW DOES IT NOT BOTHER YOU THAT I CAN'T DO MY CIVIC DUTIES AS A MODERATOR, WHICH I'VE DONE BEFORE, BUT THEN WE HAVE MAYOR MITCHELL DOING THE STATE OF THE CITY AND RIBBON CUTTINGS AND OTHER EVENTS.
SO IF YOU WANT THAT FOR ME, MY QUESTION IS, WHY ISN'T IT ACROSS THE BOARD? AND I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO IT.
I DON'T, I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO YOUR JOB.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, HOW IS THAT FAIR TO ME? WHEN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I'M DOING FOR THE FIRST TIME.
THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE PREVIOUSLY DONE.
I'VE SHOWN AN INTEREST AND I'VE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND I WOULD USE THE SAME REASON FOR MAYOR MITCHELL.
HE'S DONE THE SAME THING BEFORE.
SO I THINK WHAT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EQUALITY.
UM, I'M NOT ASKING TO GO AND, AND CUT RIBBONS AND I'M NOT ASKING TO DO THE STATE OF THE CITY.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE DUTIES THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE BEEN IMPOSED BY MAYOR MITCHELL FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND RESPECT IT.
WITH THAT SAID, BEING A PANELIST IS DIFFERENT THAN BEING A MODERATOR.
UH, ANYBODY CAN BE A PANELIST.
MODERATORS HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, IS WHY DO I HAVE TO GIVE UP SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO DO? BECAUSE YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE ANYBODY RUNNING SHOULD GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK HE WAS ARGUING FOR THAT.
I JUST, YEAH, TO BE FAIR, I HAD ZERO OPINION ABOUT THIS UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE COUNSEL.
WHO, IF SOMEONE BELONGS AS A PANELIST OR A MODERATOR, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
BUT THAT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT HOW YOU VOTED.
A FEW, YOU'VE VOTED THE EXACT OPPOSITE MEETING.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO COUNCIL ZU NOW.
'CAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS FOR OURSELVES.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT, HANG ON, HANG ON.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF MAKING EXCEPTIONS FOR OURSELVES.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR RESIDENTS.
AND, UM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT A MODERATOR.
IT SEEMS LIKE I WANNA BE A MODERATOR.
THIS IS FOR THE RESIDENTS TO DO.
UM, SO THE FOCUS OF THE DIALOGUE FOR PEACE IS NOT ABOUT
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THE MODERATOR.SO, UM, WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND, AND TRAIN A, TRAIN A, TRAIN A RESIDENT WHO WANTS TO DO IT AND, AND HAVE THEM MODERATE.
LET THEM HAVE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO BE HEARD.
WE, WE HAVE ENOUGH OF IT UP HERE.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
THIS EVENT IS FOR THE RESIDENTS.
YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT, WHICH IS WHY I HAVE NEVER, AND I PROBABLY WILL NEVER APPLY TO BE A PANELIST.
'CAUSE THE PANELISTS ARE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION.
WHAT REALLY MAKES THE BEST OF THIS EVENT TO CREATE CONSISTENCY? AND I SAID THIS THE LAST TIME, IS WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING, THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, IT SHOULD BE A PART OF OUR JOB FOR ALL OF US TO MODERATE EVENTS.
THIS TYPE OF EVENT, THIS DIALOGUE.
IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT THING.
IT'S NOT ABOUT I WANNA BE AND I WANNA BE, THERE ARE THREE DIALOGUES.
I HAVE ONLY MODERATED ONE AND I AM REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO MODERATING THE NEXT ONE WITH THAT.
ALRIGHT, THE QUESTION'S BEEN CALLED AND SECONDED.
UH, IT'S A NON DEBATABLE MOTION.
CAN I GET, REPEAT THE MOTION? THE, UM, THE, WELL, THE, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE POLICY, UH, BUT TO ALLOW FOR COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE KALE TO SERVE AS A MODERATOR IN SEPTEMBER.
SO THE FIRST VOTE IS TO CEASE DEBATE AND FORCE A VOTE.
IS THIS, TO GIVE AN EXCEPTION, YES.
ALRIGHT, QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED ROLL CALL VOTE.
BRADSHAW? UH, I, NO, I VOTED AGAINST THIS.
YOU CAN LET ME PASS ON THIS WAY.
SO WHICH WAY DO YOU WANNA GO? DO YOU WANNA APPROVE THE POLICY OR DO YOU WANNA AMEND THE POLICY TO ALLOW FOR ANYONE TO BE, TO PARTICIPATE? 'CAUSE I STILL DON'T KNOW THE DIRECTIONS.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 13.
SECOND READING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS.
ORDERING A GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD NOVEMBER 7TH, UH, 2023 FOR THE ELECTION OF MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
DISTRICTS TWO AND FOUR TO SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS. MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORE KEL, THE DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION.
[14. Consideration and Approval of a Resolution Setting a Public Hearing for the Creation of a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 14, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, UH, SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CREATION OF TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.MS. LIEBE, GOOD EVENING MAYOR.
COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHANIE LIEBE WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT.
THIS RESOLUTION IS RELATED TO PROJECT TOP PURSUIT THAT YOU ALL HEARD ABOUT EARLIER THIS EVENING.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD CALL A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CREATION OF AURS.
PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE CALLED ON SEPTEMBER 19TH.
SO THIS RESOLUTION WOULD AUTHORIZE NEWSPAPER PUBLICATION TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AND THEN ALSO AUTHORIZE CITY AND ITS CONSULTANTS TO PREPARE A PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN.
AND THAT PRELIMINARY PROJECT FINANCE PLAN WOULD PRE BE PRESENTED AT ON, ON THE 19TH AS WELL.
SO, HAPPY TO HAVE, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ABOUT PROPOSED TIMING OR IF ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROJECT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 14, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILOR FLORES SCALE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 14.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN
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FAVOR SAY AYE.ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.
[15. Consideration, discussion, and possible action on a Resolution accepting the voluntary petition for annexation of approximately 37.99 acres of land, more or less, being located in Hays County, Texas, and adjacent and contiguous to the city limits (ANNX-22-0019). ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, CONSIDERATION DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION.ACCEPTING THE VOLUNTARY PETITION FOR ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 37.99 ACRES OF LAND, MORE OR LESS, UH, BEING LOCATED IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
AND A, UH, ADJACENT AND CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY LIMITS.
WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD, UH, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
I'LL PULL THIS UP ON THE SCREEN.
I, I AM NOT SHARING THE SCREEN, SO.
JUST ONE MOMENT TO SUMMARIZE IT.
MY COMPUTER'S TRYING NOT TO TRY NOT TO WORK.
UM, AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED WITH THE PRESENTATION, UH, FOR PROJECT COPPER PURSUIT, THIS IS THE ONE OF THE FIRST PERMITS YOU'LL SEE AHEAD OF YOU FOR, UM, THE CAREWAY PROJECT TO BE ANNEXED.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 37 ACRES AND FOLLOWING ANNEXATION, THERE WILL BE ZONING IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ALSO A TURS AS WELL.
UM, TO KEEP IT SHORT AND BRIEF, UM, THIS IS IN THE, UH, THE MONARCH WATER.
UH, C C N IS IN THE CITY'S WASTEWATER, C C N AND THE PETAL ELECTRIC COOPERATIVES, C C N FOR POWER.
UM, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COUNCILOR, FOR SCALE? I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPERS.
UM, ONCE THIS IS ALL APPROVED, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHEN DO YOU GUYS PLAN ON THE ACTUAL GROUNDBREAKING, LIKE SHOVEL READY? UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE US A COUPLE MO.
I MEAN, ONCE WE CLOSE ON THE SITE, WE'RE GONNA IMMEDIATELY GO INTO DESIGN.
UM, THAT'S, IT'S HARD TO SAY EXACTLY WHEN, UM, BUT I MEAN, OUR HOPES ARE WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT YEAR.
AS SOON AS WE CAN, WE, WE WANNA START IMMEDIATELY PLEASE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORE CA.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS, THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 15 IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION.
[16.
A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas, Approving a Professional Services Agreement between the City of Kyle and Home Asset Inc. (Newquest); Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Agreement; and Providing for Open Meetings and Other Related Matters. (Caraway Project). ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
]UP, AGENDA ITEM 16.UH, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND HOME ASSET INC.
NEWQUEST AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER, EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT, PROVIDING OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND OTHER RELATED MATTERS.
MR. ATKINSON, THIS IS ONE MORE ITEM RELATED TO THE CAREWAY PROJECT.
IT IS SIMPLY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, OUR THIRD PARTY, UM, ECONOMIC GROUP, UM, AND LEGAL, ARE PAID FOR THEIR TIME PUTTING ALL THESE, UH, DOCUMENTS TOGETHER FOR THE CAREWAY HOT PURSUIT PROJECT.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER FOR KA I, I, I LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO GET PAID, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FOR KALE.
SECOND ABOUT MAYOR PRO TE TOBIAS.
SO WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 16 IS, THERE'S DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
[17.
Approve a Resolution authorizing the City Manager to execute a professional services agreement with ABIP, PC, Certified Public Accountants, San Antonio, Texas, to provide independent financial audit services to the City of Kyle for a 3-year contract term with two 1-year contract extension options. ~ Perwez A. Moheet, CPA, Director of Finance
]NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM 17, APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE A B I P PC CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, TO PROVIDE INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL AUDIT SERVICES, SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF KYLE FOR A THREE YEAR CONTRACT TERM WITH TWO ONE YEAR YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSIONS.MR. MOHE, MAYOR, MAYOR PROM COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD, I'M PERVE MAHI CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AGENDA.
ITEM NUMBER 17, BEFORE YOU IS REQUESTING YOUR APP, YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.
SHOULD I PAUSE
YOUR AUDIT IS A RIVETING CONVERSATION, CLEARLY.
WHAT WAS YOUR JOKE, PEREZ FROM BACK.
WE'LL WAIT, WE'LL WAIT FOR THE NEXT VISIONING SESSION.
SO AGENDA NUMBER 17 BEFORE YOU IS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT TO RETAIN THE SERVICES OF A B I P P C CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS.
AS THE CITY'S INDEPENDENT AUDITORS, THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT IS FOR THREE YEARS AND TWO
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ONE YEAR EXTENSIONS.THE PURPOSE OF THE AGREEMENT IS BASED ON CITY CHARTER REQUIREMENTS.
THE CITY CHARTER REQUIRES THAT THE CITY'S EXTERNAL AUDITOR, INDEPENDENT AUDITORS CANNOT PERFORM AUDITS FOR MORE THAN FIVE CONSECUTIVE FINANCIAL YEARS.
SO THE LAST AUDITOR FINISHED THEIR FIFTH AUDIT OF THE CITY'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS OF LAST FISCAL YEAR.
SO BEGINNING THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE TO RETAIN THE SERVICES OF A NEW AUDITOR.
IN JUNE, THIS STAFF WENT OUT WITH A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL AUDIT SERVICES.
WE HAD A RESPONSE FROM 10 C P A FIRMS, MOST OF 'EM WERE REGIONAL FIRMS. WE HAD A SELECTION CRITERIA, FIVE MAJOR SELECTION CRITERIA THAT WE EVALUATED EACH PROPOSAL AGAINST, AND I'LL GO OVER THOSE BRIEFLY.
FIRM QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE QUALIFICATION AND EXPERIENCE OF AUDIT STAFF THAT WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THE KYLE PROJECT AUDIT METHODOLOGY AND APPROACH THE AUDIT SCHEDULE.
THE CITY CHARTER IS VERY, UH, RIGID IN TERMS OF WHEN THE AUDIT HAS TO BE COMPLETED.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE ESTIMATED FEES AND HOURLY RATES.
CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THIS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.
BUT BEFORE I STOP, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TWO PARTNERS OF THE FIRM.
THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT WITH US, MS. JANET PITMAN, AND MR. MICHAEL DELTORO.
IF Y'ALL WOULD PLEASE COME UP.
I WOULD LIKE THEM TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THEIR FIRM AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE, AND I'LL COME BACK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE FOR ME.
UM, HERE TO PRESENT WHO WE ARE.
WE ARE A FIRM, UM, BASED OUT OF, UH, SAN ANTONIO AND HOUSTON.
WE'RE A REGIONAL FIRM, UM, SMALL OFFICES IN NEW BRAUNFELS.
AND WHAT'S THAT TOWN DOWN THERE? PEARSALL.
AND HE WAS A P UH, UH, BOTH JANET AND I ARE, HAVE BEEN PARTNERS WITH THE FIRM, UH, SINCE ITS, UM, UH, EXISTENCE IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA.
WE BOTH, UH, WERE MEMBERS OF A FIRM THAT DATED BACK, UM, SOME 45 YEARS IN SAN ANTONIO.
UM, BOTH HER AND I ARE WELL-VERSED IN AUDITING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UH, UNDER, UM, OUR, UH, EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA, UM, WE DO THE CITY OF, UH, SAN MARCUS.
UH, WE'VE AUDITED THEM FOR 10 PLUS YEARS.
UM, HAYES COUNTY IS ALSO A CLIENT OF OURS AS WELL AS MAU COUNTY.
AND WE'VE, UM, IN THE PAST HAD LOCKHART, UH, CITY OF LOCKHART, UM, AND THEN WE ALSO DO, UM, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN SAN MARCOS.
SO WE, UH, WE WORK WELL IN THE AREA.
WE, WE ARE, UH, A FIRM THAT BELIEVES IN BEING ON SITE.
SO WE PLAN ON, UH, WORKING CLOSELY WITH, UH, WITH PEREZ AND HIS STAFF.
UM, AND WE, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, IF YOU APPROVE US TO WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOUR CITY AND STAFF.
SO, QUESTIONS, CUSTOMER ZINGA.
UH, THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING HERE.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE AUDIT, UH, LOOK FOR? WHAT KIND OF, I MEAN, DO YOU FIND IR IRREGULARITIES? UH, WHAT DO, WHAT DOES THE AUDIT ENTAIL? WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO, TO, TO EXPLAIN TO THE RESIDENTS WHAT, WHAT IT IS AND SURE.
WHAT HAVE YOU FOUND IN YOUR WORK THAT MAYBE SHOULD, UH, UM, HINT THAT MAYBE SOMETHING'S OFF? SURE.
SO, UH, IT'S VERY, UH, UM, PRESCRIBED METHOD FOR AUDITING.
THERE IS, UH, STANDARDS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
UM, THEY'RE GENERALLY ACCEPTED IN AUDITING STANDARDS THAT, UH, ARE ISSUED BY THE, UH, A I C P A.
UH, AND ALL FIRMS HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE STANDARDS.
UH, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO ENSURE THAT YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT YOU ARE ISSUING AND PROFE PROVIDING TO YOUR CITIZENS AND BOND HOLDERS AND SUCH, UH, ARE PRESENTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STANDARDS FOR REPORTING.
UM, BUT INVOLVED IN THAT, THAT AU AUDIT IS ALSO A REVIEW OF CONTROLS, UM, IN, IN HOW YOU PROCESS DISBURSEMENTS AND PAYROLL AND HOW YOU RECEIVE MONEY WITHIN THE, THE, UH, THE CITY.
AND SO WE DO A, A, A DETAILED REVIEW OF THOSE PROCESSES TO LOOK FOR WHERE THERE MIGHT BE IR IRREGULARITIES, UH, WITHIN THE SYSTEM OF CONTROLS, WHICH MAY
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INDICATE SOMETHING OF, OF A MORE SEVERE, UH, SITUATION.WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS AND REGULATIONS THAT THE CITY MAY, UH, HAVE.
OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE GETTING FEDERAL FUNDS, WE'RE LOOKING, UH, AT THOSE TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE BEING PERFORMED IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, THE REGULATIONS WITH WHICH THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED UNDER.
SO, UM, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ANSWER.
UM, SO LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CONTROLS OF HOW YOU'RE PAYING OR HOW MONEY'S TRANSFERRED, LIKE WHAT, LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE SOMETHING OF THAT, OF THAT NATURE? CREDIT CARD OR CHECKS, OR IT COULD BE CREDIT CARD, IT COULD BE CHECKS, UM, WIRES THAT YOU ISSUED THROUGH, THROUGH YOUR BANKS.
UM, UH, IT'S ALL DONE THROUGH A RISK ASSESSMENT, IDENTIFYING WHERE RISK MAY BE.
UM, IT STARTS WITH INQUIRY OF, OF, OF STAFF ON HOW THINGS ARE PROCESSED, ALONG WITH VALIDATION OF OBSERVATION OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY PRESENT TO US ON HOW THEY, THEY PERFORM FUNCTIONS.
SO, AND SO Y'ALL DID GIVE US THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT IS DO, IS THAT Y'ALL'S PART OF IT TOO? WE, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S PREPARED BY CITY STAFF.
WE ACTUALLY WE'RE, WE VALIDATE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN ACCORDANCE WITH STANDARDS.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT BELONGS TO US IN YOUR, YOUR BOUND DOCUMENT IS THOSE LETTERS THAT HAVE OUR, OUR LETTERHEAD ON THEM.
UM, THE MANAGEMENT LETTER WOULD BE WHERE IF WE IDENTIFIED IRREGULARITIES THROUGH THE AUDIT, THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED.
AND THAT'S A SEPARATE LETTER THAT GOES TO, TO, TO COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOTIONS, COUNCILOR FLOSS CALE? I'D LIKE TO, SORRY.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 17, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLOS CALE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 17.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
[18. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding amending the City of Kyle Purchasing Policy. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Assistant City Manager]
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING AMENDING THE CITY OF KYLE PURCHASING POLICY.
MR. HENDRICKS MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
JERRY HENDRICKS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER IN, UH, PREVIOUS BUDGET WORKSHOPS AND AND COUNCIL MEETINGS HAS EXPRESSED HIS DESIRE TO REALLY LOOK HARD AT OUR, OUR PURCHASING POLICY, AT OUR PROCUREMENT PROCEDURES, AND BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE PROCESSES MORE, MORE EFFICIENT, ALLOW STAFF TO BE MORE NIMBLE AND BETTER ABLE TO TRACK THE PURCHASES THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY.
YOU'VE SEEN THAT BY, WE'VE ADDED TWO POSITIONS IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
THOSE POSITIONS WILL FOCUS ON THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, TRACKING CONTRACTUAL THINGS AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ARE FOLLOWED.
WE'VE AVERT REVIEWED THE PURCHASING POLICY THRESHOLDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH STATE LAW AND OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
WE REVIEWED COUNCIL ACTIONS WITH, WITH REGARDS TO PURCHASING APPROVALS ASSOCIATED DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND AN AMOUNT OF TIME COUNCIL SPENDS ON THOSE.
AND WE'VE ALSO REVIEWED THE CITY MANAGER'S PURCHASING AUTHORITY AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, AND WE'VE COMPARED THAT TO OUR COMPARISON CITIES.
CURRENTLY, OUR PUR PURCHASING POLICY ALLOWS THE CITY MANAGER $15,000 UP TO $15,000 FOR, FOR BUDGETED ITEMS OR, OR BUDGETED FUNDS TO SPEND WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL.
TRANSACTIONS BELOW $3,000 MAY BE PROCESSED WITH A SIMPLE PURCHASE ORDER TRANSACTIONS UP TO $14,999 MAY BE PROCESSED WITH A PURCHASE ORDER AND APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TRANSACTIONS UP TO $49,999 REQUIRED THREE OR MORE QUOTES ONLINE NOTICE AND MAY BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
TRANSACTIONS $50,000 AND GREATER REQUIRE AN R F P SEAL BIDS AND COUNCIL APPROVAL PRIOR TO A PURCHASE ORDER BEING ISSUED.
THIS CHART JUST KIND OF REITERATES IT IN GRAPHIC FORM.
THOSE, THOSE OUR CURRENT POLICY AND WITH A NOTE THAT THE POLICY WE'RE WORKING OFF RIGHT NOW WAS LAST AMENDED IN 2016.
SO JUST KIND OF REVIEWING, UH, COUNCIL TRANSACTIONS AND APPROVALS FOR THIS PAST, OR FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, YOU'VE APPROVED 300 OR THERE'S BEEN 324 TOTAL PURCHASING TRANSACTIONS ABOVE $3,000 THIS YEAR.
THAT TOTAL AMOUNT IS IN ROUND NUMBERS, UH, $70.5 MILLION.
THE, OF THOSE, THE TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE BETWEEN $3,000 AND $15,000, THAT'S 131 TRANSACTIONS TOTALING JUST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS OR 1.46% OF THOSE BUDGETED ITEMS. BETWEEN 15,000 AND 50,077 TRANSACTIONS TOTALING
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JUST OVER $2 MILLION OR JUST OVER 3% OF THOSE, UM, EXPENDITURES ABOVE $50,000.116 TRANSACTIONS THAT WERE ALL APPROVED BY COUNSEL TOTALING SIX, JUST OVER $67 MILLION ARE 95.5%.
OF ALL THE DOLLARS THAT WERE APPROVED WERE THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE OVER $50,000.
SO 193 OR 60% OF THE PURCHASING TRANSACTIONS APPROVED BY COUNSEL WERE APPROVED UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY.
SIX, JUST OVER 69 MILLION OF THOSE TOTAL PURCHASING EXPENDERS REQUIRED COUNCIL APPROVAL IF YOU WERE TO INCREASE THE CITY MANAGER'S PURCHASING AUTHORITY TO $50,000, WHICH MATCHES OUR COMPARISON CITIES AND AS LEVI STATE LAW, THAT WOULD FURTHER REDUCE THE COUNCIL APPROVAL, REQUIRED AGENDA ITEMS BY 40%, BUT STILL ALLOW COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR OVER 95% OF THE BUDGETED ITEMS THAT, THAT YOU SEE.
LET ME STOP THERE AND ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MEAT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THIS SHOWS THE APPROVAL LIMITS THAT OUR COMPARISON CITIES HAVE.
UH, KYLE IS THAT LITTLE BITTY BAR ON THE LEFT, AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, THEIR CITY MANAGER GETS UP TO 58,000.
YOU'LL SEE ALL THE OTHER CITIES, UM, ARE $50,000 EXCEPT FOR BUDDA.
THAT CITY MANAGER IS LIMITED TO $49,999 AND 99 CENTS.
SO THIS WILL PUT US ABOVE, YEAH.
SO TO, TO MAKE THIS CHANGE, ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER PURCHASING AUTHORITY BETWEEN UP TO $50,000 FROM THE CURRENT 15, IT ALIGNS TO STATE LEGISLATION.
IT STILL PROVIDES THE TRANSACTION TRANSPARENCY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, STAFF AND COUNCIL.
THE COUNCIL MAINTAINS DIRECT APPROVAL OVER 95% OF THE CURRENT SPEND.
IT OPTIMIZES THE CITY COUNCIL'S TIME TO REALLY BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THOSE BIG TICKET ITEMS AND ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF TO STILL BE NIMBLE WITH THOSE, THOSE SMALLER ITEMS. AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF WE HAVE TO REPLACE, LET'S SAY, DEHUMIDIFIERS ON THE AIR CONDITIONERS AT CITY HALL, WHICH THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT'S GONNA BE ABOUT $40,000 RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.
AND THEN THE NEW POLICY, THE CITY MANAGER, WOULD BE ABLE TO DIRECTLY APPROVE THAT AND SET THAT MOTION THAT MUCH QUICKER.
SO, UM, IT OPTIMIZES CITY COUNCIL'S TIME.
IT ALIGNS HIGH VOLUME, LOW COST, AND LOW VOLUME, HIGH COST TRANSACTION WITH APPROPRIATE CONTROLS.
SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE, YOU CAN MAINTAIN THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY AT $15,000.
YOU CAN APPROVE A CHANGE TO THE PURCHASING POLICY TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY TO EXTEND AN INCREASE TO 50,000, OR YOU CAN, UM, APPROVE A DIFFERENT AMOUNT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. HENDRICKS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I I FULLY SUPPORT THIS.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN PARSLEY.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCILMAN FOR CO? I JUST WANNA SAY I DO HAVE CONCERNS AND I, I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND IT'S SILLY THAT WE'RE AT 15,000, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT KYLE IS GROWING VERY QUICKLY, AND SO I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S LOW AND I UNDERSTAND WHY IT NEEDS TO BE HIGH, BUT I'M GONNA BE HONEST, IT MAKES ME NERVOUS TO MAKE SUCH A BIG LEAP.
UM, I, IS IT POSSIBLE TO, WE DON'T WANNA MICROMANAGE BUT DOING THIS, THAT'S A HUGE INCREASE.
IS THERE WAYS THAT WE CAN GET A NOTIFICATION IF YOU SPEND 50,000? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IS LIKE, MAYBE YOU ADD IT TO THE REPORT? UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK 45 TO 50,000 IS, IS A GOOD NUMBER THAT WE SHOULD BE APPRISED OF.
UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT USED TO BE JUST 15.
UH, BUT SOME KIND OF NOTIFICATION I THINK WOULD MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER, UM, AS OPPOSING TO SAY, HEY, I'D RATHER SEE IT AT 40.
YEAH, I, I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE WAYS I'VE MANAGED THIS IN THE PAST IS JUST TO PROVIDE A, SOME KIND OF PROCUREMENT REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON PERHAPS A QUARTERLY BASIS.
AND IT WOULD JUST LIST WHAT THE TRANSACTIONS ARE AND IF YOU WANNA SEE ANYTHING OVER $40,000, WE COULD HAVE THOSE IN A TRANSACTION REPORT THAT WE JUST PROVIDED THE COUNCIL.
WE COULD SEND IT OUT IN THE FRIDAY REPORT AND LIST WHAT IT WAS.
AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE COULD CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S A WAY WE COULD ADD SOME TRANSPARENCY TO THAT AND, AND SHOW YOU THOSE, THOSE TRANSACTIONS.
IS, WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH EVERYBODY ELSE IF YOU ADDED INTO THE POLICY OR PROCUREMENT REPORT? LIKE YOU SAY, QUARTERLY, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK QUARTERLY WOULD BE FINE IF THAT THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO, AGAIN, THAT'S
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SOMETHING I WANT TO HAVE THOSE, THE PURCHASING STAFF WHEN WE GET THEM ON BOARD, THAT'D BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS I'D BE ASKING, ASKING THEM TO DO, DEVELOP A REPORT ON.HOW ABOUT FOR BETWEEN 15 AND 50? OKAY.
UM, WELL, THERE'S ALREADY A MOTION ON THE TABLE, SO I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO PRODUCE A QUARTERLY PROCUREMENT REPORT, ITEMIZING THE TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN 15,000 AND 50002ND.
ALRIGHT, MOTION TO AMEND IS MADE BY THE MAYOR, SECOND, AND BY CUSTOMER FOR SCALES THERE.
DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
NOW WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE ENTIRE ITEM.
OH WAIT, SORRY, IT'S ALREADY ON THE TABLE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.
[19. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding proposed edits to ordinances relating to potential regulations for use of public areas. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning]
NEXT STEP IS AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER 19, RECEIVER REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION PROVIDES STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING PROPOSED EDITS TO ORDINANCES RELATED TO POTENTIAL REGULATION FOR USE OF PUBLIC AREAS.
BUT YEAH, JUST PUT IT ON PRESENTATION MODE.
SO AT THE AUGUST 1ST MEETING OF THIS MONTH, UH, Y'ALL CITY COUNCIL VOTED FOUR TO THREE TO THREE TO ASK STAFF TO, TO PREPARE A REPORT, TO MAKE EDITS, TO ORDINANCES, TO CLOSE LOOPHOLES IN OUR, UM, BEGGING ORDINANCE, IF YOU WILL.
AND SO, UH, SINCE THEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH, UH, PLANNING AND POLICE AND ADMINISTRATION TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE, UH, WHERE THOSE ITEMS ARE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MUL SOME MULTIPLE ORDINANCES THAT ARE PASSED IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT SECTIONS THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDE A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE, UM, ANTI LORDING, UH, BEGGING ORDINANCES.
UM, AND ACTUALLY, QUITE HONESTLY, IN, IN MY OPINION, THEY ARE MORE ROBUST IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S BECAUSE OURS APPLY TO THE ENTIRE CITY.
AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S PRIMARILY APPLY JUST TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS WE DON'T ALLOW, UH, PEOPLE TO, UH, UNLAWFULLY STOP OR LOITER IN HAZARDOUS, HAZARDOUS OR CONGESTED AREAS.
UH, WE DON'T REALLY ALLOW SOLICITATION AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
UH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS RELATED TO, UH, FUNDRAISING FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES, SELLING NEWSPAPERS WITH A REFLECTIVE VEST, OR CONDUCTING BY, OR BEING CONDUCTED BY A NONPROFIT WITH A PERMIT IN A REFLECTIVE VEST.
UM, THIS WAS PASSED, UM, IN JUNE OF 21, WHERE WE DON'T ALLOW CAMPING OBSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC FACILITIES, SIDEWALKS, YOU NAME IT, OR AGGRESSIVE CONFRONTATION.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, WE DON'T ALLOW, UH, CAMPING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, STORING PERSONAL BELONGINGS WE'RE PROHIBITED AND WHAT HAVE YOU WHEN COOKING, I WILL KEEP GOING HERE.
UM, CAN'T BE BLOCKING A PATH FOR BEGGING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOLLOWING A PERSON WALKING AWAY FROM A SOLICITOR.
NO YELLING, THREATENING, OR ABUSIVE LANGUAGE.
UH, WE DO AS A SIDE NOTE, DO HAVE PEDDLERS PERMITS FOR THE, UH, BUSINESSES THAT DO WALK THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
UH, THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND FROM A K P D RESPONSE TO THE TRANSIENT POPULATION, UH, K P D DOES DO WELFARE CHECKS.
THEY DO EVALS FOR SAFETY AND FIELD LEVEL FOR MENTAL HEALTH WITH REFERRALS.
UH, VOLUNTARY ARRIVES TO SHELTERS, PHONE CALLS TO FAMILY, FRIENDS AND CHECK-INS AND DATABASE CHECKS FOR MISSING PERSONS, ET CETERA.
UH, JUST FROM A SOLICITATION INCIDENTS THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR WITH K P D, THEY HAD A TOTAL OF 123, UM, ABOUT 10 AND A QUARTER PER MONTH ON AVERAGE.
AND FOR 2023 SO FAR, IT'S ACTUALLY DOWN TO ABOUT SEVEN PER MONTH ON AVERAGE.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S TRENDING DOWN.
CITY OF AUSTIN, AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, THEY HAVE, UM, IT'S REALLY PRIMARILY JUST FOR DOWNTOWN, WHERE IF THEY REALLY CAN PUT A REGULATORY AUTHORITY ON THE CITY, AND THEY DO A LOT OF PEACEFUL PANHANDLING AROUND THE REST OF THE CITY.
UM, SO WE ALREADY KNOW THERE IS THE ONE OPTION ABOUT, UH, WE'LL CALL IT THE, THE VENMO EDIT.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING, MAKING SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE WE, WE ADEQUATELY ACCOUNT FOR THAT, BUT ALSO, UH, NOT VIOLATE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE IDENTIFIED WERE, UM, REPEALING THE EXCEPTIONS IN SECTION 47 DASH 33 C TWO AND THREE FOUR EXCEPTIONS FOR NEWSPAPERS OR BY PERMIT IN MEDIANS.
IT'S JUST PLAIN DANGEROUS, WE BELIEVE.
UM, ALSO POSSIBLY ADD LANGUAGE FROM THE CITY, CITY LEGAL CONCERNING THE SOLICITATE SOLICITING BY ADVERTISING IN ANY FORM OF PAYMENT.
ADD PROHIBITIVE LANGUAGE FOR ACTIVITIES OF ENTERTAINMENT SUCH AS MUSIC PLAYED BY ANY INSTRUMENT, PERFORMANCES, ET CETERA, ON THE STREETS WITHOUT A PROPER PERMIT.
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FURTHER FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL AS CITY COUNCIL AND DIRECTION.UM, OPTION TWO, OPTION THREE, OPTION FOUR, ALL THREE.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE DON'T AMEND THE ORDINANCE OTHER THAN INCLUDE THE ELECTRONIC PAYMENT? JUST THAT, THAT WILL BE NUMBER THREE? THAT IS NUMBER THREE.
UH, THE LANGUAGE FROM CITY LEGAL CONCERNING THOSE SOLICITING BY ADVERTISING ANY, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH OPTION NUMBER THREE.
MOTIONS MADE FOR OPTION NUMBER THREE.
MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW THAT WE APPROVE OPTION NUMBER THREE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? COUNCILOR HEISER, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M ABUNDANTLY CLEAR HERE.
GOING WITH OPTION THREE, WE ARE STRIKING ALL OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE ARE MAKING.
NO OTHER CHANGES TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE OTHER THAN THE ADDITION OF POTEN OF, OF A VENMO LOGO.
ANYONE ELSE WANNA GIMME YEAH, YEAH.
ANY KIND OF, ANY KIND OF LIKE, OKAY.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST CLARIFY THAT THE ELECTRONIC PAYMENT, VENMO IS ONE OF THE BRANDS CASH APP, BUT THERE MAY BE OTHERS IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE LANGUAGE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERIC, BUT NOT PAYPAL.
AND IF I MAY ADD, UM, TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY WAS REFERRING TO, I DID SEE THAT INDIVIDUAL THE OTHER DAY AT THE CORNER, UM, WITH A DRUM STICK AND FELL OUT OF HIS HAND ROLLED UNDERNEATH THE CAR AND HE WENT IN THERE AND GOT IT AND A CAR NEARLY TOOK OFF AND HE GOT RAN OVER.
THERE'S ALSO THE ASPECT OF THE BACKUP TRAFFIC THAT THAT COULD BE A DISTRACTION ON THAT END.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE'RE ASKED, WE'RE DOING THE ORDINANCE, IT'S GOTTA BE ALL THE WAY ACROSS, WE'VE GOTTA BE REAL STRICT ON THAT CONSISTENT CUSTOMER FOR SCALE.
UM, I BRIEFLY EMAILED BACK AND FORTH WITH, UM, CHIEF BARNETT AND I BELIEVE PAIGE.
AND TO ME IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT THE VENMO, IT WAS LIKE ABOUT THE SAFETY ASPECT TO IT.
AND SO IS, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WALKING AREAS SUCH AS A CROSSWALK, UM, DOESN'T HAVE ANY STATIONARY? UM, EITHER PEOPLE OR, I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE TO SIT THERE AND STAY IN ONE SPOT WHEN PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WALKING BACK AND FORTH.
I, I, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, I DO THAT, I DO BELIEVE THAT IS ALREADY COVERED IN EXISTING ORDINANCES ABOUT, UH, BLOCKING PUBLIC ACCESS WAYS AND WHAT HAVE YOU FROM SITTING AND LYING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
WELL, I, WELL I THINK IT, I THINK THERE, I'LL ASK CHIEF BARNETT
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF POLICE FOR THE RECORD, UH, VERY SPECIFICALLY, THE INDIVIDUAL PLAYING THE DRUMS HAD POSITIONED HIMSELF IN AN AREA THAT WAS NOT BLOCKING A WALKING PATHWAY OR A PLACE WHERE ANYBODY ELSE IS GONNA BE USING THAT SIDEWALK OR CURB AREA.
HE WAS POSITIONED BASICALLY ON A LITTLE PIECE OF AN ISLAND THAT NOBODY'S GONNA WALK TO BECAUSE THERE IS NO, UH, SIDEWALK IN THAT AREA.
SO AS YOU EXPLORE THE LANGUAGE, UH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE IF PAIGE SAYS WE CAN, THAT TALKS ABOUT THAT KIND OF AREA ON THE CONCRETE.
SO HAD A, HAD A PERSON ON A BICYCLE OR WALKING OR UM, WHEELCHAIR OR WHATEVER BEEN IN THAT AREA, AND WE WERE SOLELY LOOKING FOR HIM TO BE BLOCKING THE PATHWAY.
HE WAS NOT, HE FOUND THIS LITTLE ISOLATED PIECE OF CONCRETE THAT IS NOT OTHERWISE USED AND THAT'S WHY WE COULDN'T MOVE HIM.
SO IF YOU CAN INCORPORATE THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT COVERS THAT ENTIRE CONCRETE AREA AROUND ADJACENT TO THE ROADWAY, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP OUR OFFICERS, UH, USE THAT DEFINITION, UH, TO THE POINT THAT HE HAD THE ORDINANCE PRINTED IN PAPER AND KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THAT HE COULD GET AWAY WITH.
HE HAD PRE-PRINTED, HE HAD PRINTED OUR ORDINANCES AND HAD THOSE IN HIS POSSESSION WHEN THE OFFICERS WENT TO CONFRONT HIM.
SO HE IS A VERY EDUCATED PERSON.
UH, BUT IN HIS CASE, HE WAS ADVERTISING, YOU'RE COVERING ONE ASPECT OF WHAT HE WAS DOING.
HE WAS ADVERTISING FOR MONEY USING, UH, FORMS OF ELECTRONIC PAYMENTS.
SO WHAT YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT WOULD COVER THAT.
AND I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT WANNA SIT OUT IN THAT HOT SUN AND PLAY MUSIC WITHOUT ASKING FOR MONEY.
SO, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE CROSSWAY, THE CROSSWALKS, WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN OUR ORDINANCES, WE COULD ENFORCE THAT TODAY.
HE WAS AT THE CROSSWALK THOUGH, RIGHT? NO, HE WAS AT, THERE'S A PIECE OF CONCRETE OUT OF THE WAY OF THE CROSSWALK WHERE PEOPLE WOULD NOT WALK.
'CAUSE WE WENT OUT AND LOOKED.
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I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE MOVED THOUGH.'CAUSE I THINK WHEN I GOT THAT, RECEIVED THE PICTURE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS.
HE, HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS AT, LIKE, AT THE WALK.
IF HE WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE WALKWAY WHEN WE WOULD'VE SEEN HIM, WE COULD'VE MOVED HIM.
'CAUSE HE'S BLOCKING THAT WALKWAY.
WHERE, WHERE WE SAW HIM, HE WAS JUST, UH, NORTH OF THE CROSSWALK IN AN AREA THAT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S NOT MEANT FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS THERE.
UH, IT'S IN ONE OF THOSE TURNAROUND LOCATIONS.
PEOPLE ARE NOT ADVISED OR THERE'S NO CROSSWALK TO CROSS TO THAT PIECE OF CONCRETE WHERE HE WAS AT.
SO WE DIDN'T MOVE HIM BECAUSE HE WASN'T BLOCKING A PATHWAY.
WELL, I I, FOR ME IT WAS ALL ABOUT SAFETY.
BECAUSE I DID HEAR THE STORY THAT HE DROPPED HIS DRUMSTICK.
AND I WAS LIKE, HOLY MOLY, IF HE WOULD'VE WENT AFTER THAT, OR EVEN IF SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO LIKE, TAKE A PICTURE TO, TO DO THE VI WHATEVER REASON, LIKE, IT'S JUST NOT SAFE TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? DISCUSS? YEP.
SO I, I DO AGREE THAT IT'S UNSAFE TO BE, UH, PANHANDLING ON THE, UM, NOT ALLOWED AREAS.
BUT ACTUALLY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THERE IS A STATE LAW ON THE BOOKS THAT PROHIBITS YOU FROM SOLICITING FROM THE ROADWAY.
AND IT ACTUALLY, UH, WOULD, THE VIOLATORS WOULD INCLUDE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GIVING THE MONEY FROM THE VEHICLES AND THE PERSON SEEKING MONEY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT PERSON'S NOT SUPPOSED TO ENTER THE ROADWAY.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A VERY GENERIC BASIC STATE LAW THAT'S OUT THERE.
THE CITY HERE HAS TRIED TO ENHANCE OUR LAWS AND GIVE OUR OFFICERS MORE POWER TO MAKE OUR ROADWAY SAFE.
SO WE EVEN HAVE A FEW MORE ORDINANCES.
BUT YES, IT IS ILLEGAL AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUS.
SO, SO SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT I WAS, UM, LOOKING AT SAYS, UM, THAT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP SHOULD TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE SHELTERS AND HELP THE SHELTERS TO, AND THAT KIND OF, SO THAT THE NEED, THE, THE, THE FUNDS CAN GO WHERE THE NEED IS.
UM, WHAT ELSE CAN, CAN WE POSSIBLY DO TO KIND OF ASSIST THESE PEOPLE, GET THEM ON THEIR FEET? UH, I KNOW WE TRANSPORT THEM OUT OF THE CITY TO A SHELTER IF THEY'D LIKE TO GO.
BUT CAN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I MEAN, TO TREAT THEM WITH A LITTLE RESPECT AND DIGNITY AS, AS I KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN PROBABLY HAVING IN A HARD SITUATION IN LIFE.
THERE'S THERE, THERE'S A WIDE SPECTRUM OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ENCOUNTER.
THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE HOMELESS MM-HMM.
AND GENERALLY THEY WILL ACCEPT SOME OFFER OF ASSISTANCE.
THEY'LL ACCEPT A RIDE TO A SHELTER.
THEY WILL ACCEPT EITHER FOOD VOUCHERS OR HOTEL VOUCHERS, OR HONESTLY, SOMETIMES OUR OFFICERS WILL COVER HOTELS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE DOWN ON THEIR LUCK FOR A WHILE.
AND THEY'LL GO TO A HOTEL AND PAY FOR IT OUT OF THEIR POCKET AND GET THESE PEOPLE A ROOM FOR THE NIGHT TO COOL DOWN.
AS YOU MOVE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE AND THE OTHER END OF THAT SPECTRUM, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE TO BE THERE THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY SUFFERING FROM MENTAL ILLNESS.
MAYBE THEY'RE NOT EVEN HOMELESS, THEY'RE THERE MORE BY CHOICE AS A SOURCE OF INCOME AND, AND A LIFESTYLE THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN.
SO WE ENCOUNTER, UH, BOTH ENDS OF THAT SPECTRUM.
OUR OFFICERS ARE TRAINED TO OFFER THEM ALL KINDS OF ASSISTANCE THAT MAY BE OUT THERE FROM OUR PARTNERS TO INCLUDE SHELTER, TO INCLUDE FOOD, TO INCLUDE RIDES.
THE OFFICERS ARE PROVIDED CELL PHONES.
THEY WILL ASK THEM IF THEY WANNA CALL THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS JUST TO CHECK IN BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE FOLKS HAVEN'T CALLED HOME IN A LONG TIME.
SO THEY OFFER THEM THE ABILITY TO MAKE TELEPHONE CALLS.
UH, REALLY ANYTHING THAT WE CAN OFFER, WE TRY TO DO TO HELP 'EM.
WHAT WE DON'T DO IS FORCE THEM IF THEY ARE NOT ENDANGERING THEMSELVES MM-HMM.
IF THEY'RE OF SOUND MIND AND THEY'RE MAKING THOSE ACTIONS FREE OF CHOICE, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T TAKE THEM AND TAKE THEIR LIBERTY AWAY FROM THEM TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES.
SO DO THEY, ARE WE ENCOUNTERING 10 PANHANDLER PER MONTH IN THE CITY OF KYLE? IS THAT THE REPORT THAT I WAS LOOKING AT? UM, IT'S 10 CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT LEAD US THERE.
THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS PANHANDLING.
SOME ARE MORE WELFARE CONCERN.
I MEAN, DO WE FIND ANY TEENAGERS RUNAWAYS? UH, RARELY.
THAT NUMBER WOULD BE RARELY VERY SMALL.
WE DO ENCOUNTER MENTAL ILLNESS AND OUR COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ON A GREAT EFFORT TO TRY TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICES FROM THOSE THAT ARE SUFFERING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S A BIG COMPONENT OF THAT.
AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, WE'RE DOING OUR PART AS A CITY.
WE DO HAVE REGIONAL PARTNERS THAT OFFER SERVICES AND WE DO HAVE, UH, AGENCIES HERE IN HAYES COUNTY THAT WILL RESPOND AND TRY TO OFFER THOSE SERVICES IN THE FIELD IF NECESSARY.
IF THEY'RE IN CRISIS, WE CAN TAKE THEM EVEN TO SETON HOSPITAL FOR EVALUATIONS.
THE REST ARE, GENERALLY IT'S A FINANCIAL SITUATION, OUR PERSONAL CHOICE, AND WE TRY TO BALANCE THAT OUT WITH WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
BUT WE DO OFFER THEM SERVICES, INCLUDING RIDES AND THE STUFF THAT I MENTIONED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CUSTOMER PARTIAL.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO WHAT YOU WERE TALKING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SUNGA.
THERE IS, UM, THERE ARE RESOURCES AND I'M REALLY GLAD OF, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
UM, THERE WAS A PARTICULAR CASE, THE LADY THAT HAD THE SHOPPING CART, SHE GOT, I EVEN PULLED OVER TO TALK TO HER AND, UM, COMMISSIONER COHEN MM-HMM.
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TAKE HER TO A SHELTER AND OFFER SEVERAL AND WE OPTIONS.UM, SOME OF THEM REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET HELP.
WE, WE TRY TO BALANCE WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THEIR SAFETY, WELFARE AND DIGNITY VERSUS WHAT THEIR RIGHTS ARE AS A CITIZEN TO, TO LIVE A CERTAIN LIFESTYLE.
ANYONE ELSE? MOTIONS FOR OPTION THREE.
[20. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction regarding water conservation programs. ~ Kathy Roecker, Stormwater Management Plan Administrator ]
ITEM NUMBER 20.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. MS. KATHY RAKER, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER KATHY RAKER FOR THE RECORD.
UH, I WANTED TO START OFF BY THANKING COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER FOR BRINGING THIS DISCUSSION FORWARD.
WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. WHAT IF MY SCREEN IS MOVING FORWARD, BUT IT DIDN'T MOVE UP THERE.
SO THE INTRODUCTION STAFF WAS TASKED WITH RESEARCHING THE CITY'S PREVIOUS WATER CONSERVATION REBATE PROGRAM.
AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF DIGGING, I WAS ABLE TO FIND OUT.
IN 2013, THE CITY HAD CREATED A WATER CONSERVATION REBATE PROGRAM DUE TO RECEIVING A FINE FROM E A A, WHICH IS THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY FOR OVERPUMPING FROM THE AQUIFER IN LIEU OF THE CITY, PAYING THOSE MONIES TO E A A, UH, E A A AGREED TO LET THE CITY USE THAT MONEY TO OFFER REBATES IN, UH, THE FORM OF WATER CONSERVATION INITIATIVES.
THIS PROGRAM RAN FROM 2013 TO 2015 AND WAS ADMINISTERED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND UTILITY BILLING TO PROMOTE WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES.
REBATES INCLUDED LANDSCAPE CONVERSIONS, IRRIGATION SYSTEM UPGRADES, LOW FLOW TOILETS, SHOWER HEADS, DUAL FLUSH CONVERSION KITS, TOILET TANK FLAPPER REPAIR KITS, FAUCET AERATORS, FAUCET MOUNT SPRINKLER TIMERS, HIGH EFFICIENCY APPLIANCES, AND RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS. UH, THE IMPRESSIVE THING WAS THE RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEM WAS UP TO A $5,000 REBATE, NOT EXCEEDING MORE THAN 50% OF THE SYSTEM.
THE COST MORE THAN 50% OF THE COST OF THE SYSTEM, ROUGHLY 28 PEOPLE OUT OF A POPULATION OF 33,000.
I USED THE 2014 BECAUSE THE, THE PROGRAM RAN FROM 2013 TO 2015.
SO I JUST PICKED THE MIDDLE ONE, UH, TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THOSE REBATES AND THE CITY ACTUALLY SPENT MORE ON THE ADVERTISING OF THE REBATES.
THEN WE ACTUALLY PAID OUT IN, IN THE TOTAL REBATES.
AND BASED ON THE PREVIOUS REBATE PROGRAM DATA, UH, I COULD NOT FIND ANY APPLICATIONS THAT WERE FOR, UH, SUBMITTED FOR RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS, WHICH IS KIND OF UNFORTUNATE.
OH, I THINK CENTRAL TEXAS TYPICALLY RECEIVES LITTLE TO NO RAIN FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER.
AND TYPICALLY OUR WETTEST MONTHS ON RECORD FOR CENTRAL TEXAS ARE MAY AND OCTOBER.
SO IF THERE IS NO RAIN DURING THOSE MONTHS, WHEN WATER IS NEEDED MOST, UM, MOST RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WILL NOT SEE A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.
AND IT WILL NOT CURTAIL WATER USAGE DURING THE HOT SUMMER MONTHS.
WHEN IT COMES TO RAINWATER HARVESTING, UH, MORE THAN LIKELY IF YOU DO HAVE A RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEM, YOU'RE GONNA USE MOST OF THAT WATER IN YOUR SYSTEM PROBABLY IN THE MONTH OF JUNE.
AND THEN IF WE DON'T GET RAIN, THERE'S NO MORE RAINWATER TO BE USED.
THERE ARE PROS TO RAINWATER HARVESTING, UH, INDEPENDENT NON-POTABLE WATER SUPPLY.
UH, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE SYSTEM INSTALLED, IT MAY REDUCE WATER BILLS.
IT IS SUITABLE FOR IRRIGATION.
UH, RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS CAN REDUCE SOIL EROSION AND RAINWATER IS BETTER FOR PLANTS AND LANDSCAPES THAN TREATED POTABLE WATER DUE TO, DUE TO HAVING A HIGHER NITROGEN CONTENT.
THE CONS, UNPREDICTABLE RAINFALL, UH, CAN BE A HIGH INITIAL COST.
RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS DO REQUIRE REGULAR MAINTENANCE.
YOU HAVE TO CLEAN OUT YOUR GUTTER SYSTEMS AND CLEAN OUT THE, THE TRAPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
ON THESE SYSTEMS, THERE ARE STORAGE LIMITATIONS AND TYPICALLY, UH, RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS ARE NOT HOOKED UP TO YOUR, UH, EXISTING IRRIGATION SYSTEM UNLESS YOU HAVE A BACK PREVENTION DEVICE.
YOU CANNOT, YOU DON'T WANT CROSS CONNECTION HAPPENING.
UM, LOOKING AT RAINWATER HARVESTING, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA, THE CITY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO CREATE DESIGN
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STANDARDS.AND I'LL HAVE A SLIDE HERE IN A MINUTE TO SHOW YOU SOME PHOTOS.
UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME DIFFERENT THINGS TO CONSIDER.
IF WE DO WANT TO LOOK AT RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS. UM, AGAIN, YOU'D PROBABLY WANT IT DARK COLORED WITH AN INTERNAL LINER TO PREVENT SUNLIGHT.
AND THAT'S SO THAT YOU KEEP ALGAE FROM, UM, OVERGROWING IN THOSE TANKS.
UH, ALONG WITH THOSE OTHER BULLETS, HERE'S SOME OF THE PHOTOS THAT I SAW.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHY I THINK WE'D WANNA COME UP WITH DESIGN STANDARDS.
'CAUSE I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT WE WANT THE BLUE 55 GALLON DRUMS, UH, AROUND THE CITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF MENTION WHAT PROBABLY WE WOULD WANT SOME DESIGN STANDARDS FOR CONSISTENCY.
I, WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT OUR PREVIOUS REBATE SYSTEM, I STARTED KIND OF, OF COURSE I FELL DOWN A RABBIT HOLE.
I STARTED THINKING, OKAY, WATER CONSERVATION, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN DO THAT MIGHT MAKE A GREATER IMPACT IF OUR TRUE GOAL IS WATER CONSERVATION? SO THAT LED ME TO ZERO ESCAPING AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT I SAW, WHICH WAS WATER SAVER LANDSCAPES.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DOES, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING CONCEPT.
SO ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, 50 TO 80% OF A HOME'S WATER USAGE IS USED FOR OUTDOOR WATERING.
UM, ZERO ESCAPING USED SIGNIFICANTLY, SIGNIFICANTLY LESS WATER THAN SIDE AND THE PLANTS ARE DROUGHT TOLERANT.
PROS USES DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTS, REDUCES WATER BILLS, REDUCES ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT BECAUSE YOU CAN USE LESS FERTILIZER CAN BE POLLINATOR FRIENDLY, THAT IS NOT A TYPO.
ALSO ATTRACTS BIRDS AND, UH, BUTTERFLIES DE DEPENDING ON THE PLANTS USED.
AND THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT ALL GRASS HAS TO BE REMOVED.
CONS, IT IS EXPENSIVE WITH A LARGE INITIAL INVESTMENT, TYPICALLY BECAUSE ALSO TO THESE ARE A LOT OF TIMES PROFESSIONALLY, UH, DESIGNED AND SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE THE APPEARANCE OF, UM, ZERO SCAPING.
I WANTED TO INCLUDE THESE PHOTOS BECAUSE AS YOU COULD PROBABLY TELL, UM, THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS COSTCO, WHICH IS 100% ZEROSCAPE.
SO IF YOU GO OUT THERE, UM, ALL OF THEIR LANDSCAPE IS ZEROSCAPE AS WELL AS T X B, WHICH IS THE NEW GAS STATION OFF OF LAYMAN IS THE RIGHT HAND PHOTO.
AND THOSE ARE BOTH ZEROSCAPE WATER, LAVER WATER SAVER LANDSCAPES WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD POSSIBLY TO CONSIDER FOR RESIDENTIAL.
AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DOES.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S A ZERO ESCAPING ON A SMALLER SCALE.
UH, IT'S LESS INITIAL INVESTMENT AT A LOWER COST.
UH, YOU HAVE TO REMOVE AT LEAST 200 SQUARE FEET OF GRASS AND ANY SPRINKLERS IN THAT AREA, UH, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT THE SIZE OF A PARKING SPACE.
AND CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DOES NOT ALLOW ANY PERMANENT IRRIGATION IN THE NEW BEDS.
UM, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO OFFERS A HUNDRED DOLLARS REBATE FOR DOING ONE OF THESE CONVERSIONS IN RESIDENTIAL YARDS.
THESE ARE SOME BEFORE AND AFTER PHOTOS THAT I THOUGHT WERE REALLY INTERESTING.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT, THE TOP IS BEFORE THE BOTTOM IS AFTER, AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT REMOVING ALL OF THE GRASS.
YOU'RE TAKING OUT, UM, SECTIONS OF GRASS AND YOU'RE USING MULCH OR, UM, OTHER MATERIALS.
THE MIDDLE PHOTO IS A LANDSCAPE STRIP, LANDSCAPE STRIP.
I ALWAYS, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT JUST DOESN'T STICK FOR ME.
UM, ON THE LEFT IT SHOWS IT HAS GRASS ON THE RIGHT PART OF THAT PHOTO, IT SHOWS THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY REMOVED WITH, UM, NON SOD.
THE PHOTO THAT'S ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE, I WOULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY CONSIDER THAT MORE ZERO SCAPING.
'CAUSE I REALLY DON'T SEE HARDLY ANY GRASS.
BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS AN INTERESTING PHOTO.
HERE IS ANOTHER WATER SAVER LANDSCAPE.
SO AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT REMOVING ALL THE GRASS.
UM, AND SO IT'S A NICE OPTION FOR RESIDENTIAL.
THIS WAS SOMETHING WHILE I WAS OUT DRIVING AROUND PREPARING FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
IT JUST SO HAPPENS I WAS DRIVING BY H E V AND I WAS LIKE, YOU'VE GOT NO, UM,
ONE THING TO POSSIBLY CONSIDER, UH, IS ONE THING THAT IS MIGHT WE MIGHT WANNA DISCOURAGE IS TRYING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO IRRIGATE SUCH SMALL LITTLE GRASSY AREAS.
UM, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR Y'ALL TO CONSIDER, UM, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO IRRIGATE, ESPECIALLY SPRAY IRRIGATION, UM, A LOT OF IT, I DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH TELL IN THE PHOTOS IT'S IN, IT'S ENDING UP IN THE STREET AND ON THE SIDEWALKS.
SO WE HAD, WE DID HAVE SOME RECENT ORDINANCE CHANGES, UH, IN CHAPTER 54, LANDSCAPE
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CODE.UM, WE ARE ENCOURAGING RAINWATER HARVESTING SYSTEMS. IN FACT, T X B DID INSTALL ONE, UM, IN CHAPTER 54 AS WELL.
UM, WE ARE ALLOWING ZERO SCAPING IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT UNDER THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
UM, THE SOMETHING ELSE UTILITY BUILDING, I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO WATER CONSERVATION, THE CITY OF KYLE HAS A TIERED WATER RATE STRUCTURE.
SO THE MORE WATER A CUSTOMER USES, THE RATE PER THOUSAND GALLON INCREASES.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM OVERUSING WATER, UH, JUST BY THE, THE WAY WE HAVE STRUCTURED OUR RATES HERE IN KYLE.
UM, ALSO TOO, EVERY MONTH UTILITY BILLING RUNS A REPORT FOR EVERY ACCOUNT LOOKING FOR ANOMALIES OR OUTLIERS.
FOR AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU NORMALLY HAVE A LOWERED WATER USE AND THEY RUN THIS REPORT AND THEY NOTICE THAT IT'S EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER, UTILITY BILLING WILL ACTUALLY FLAG THAT METER AND SEND A METER TECH OUT TO RESEARCH TO SEE IF THERE'S A LEAK.
UM, UTILITY ALSO HAS A NEW, OR A 2019 HAS A WATER LEAK ADJUSTMENT POLICY THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AGAIN JUNE OF 2019.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ALREADY DOING.
WE CAN RE-IMPLEMENT, RE-IMPLEMENT THE PREVIOUS REBATE PROGRAM, REQUIRE, UH, NEW COMMERCIAL SITES TO INSTALL AT LEAST 50% ZERO ESCAPING DURING CONSTRUCTION.
AGAIN, THAT WON'T ACTUALLY COST THE CITY ANYTHING BECAUSE IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE REQUIRE THEM TO DO WHILE THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UH, WE CAN GIVE INCENTIVES, REBATES FOR EXISTING COMMERCIAL SITES TO INSTALL ZERO ESCAPING.
WE CAN GIVE INCENTIVES, REBATES FOR RESIDENTIAL WATER SAVER LANDSCAPING RE WE CAN REQUIRE NEW COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY SITES TO USE DRIP IRRIGATION.
AGAIN, SPRAY IRRIGATION IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU DO LOSE A LOT OF THE WATER THROUGH EVAPORATION, UH, AND POSSIBLY WIND DRIFT.
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE OTHER, SO YOU GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
HOW WILL THE REBATE LOOK LIKE? LIKE IF A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER SAID, HEY, I HAVE A LOT OF, UM, GRASS ON MY FRONT YARD AND I WANT TO DO SIR ESCAPEE.
IS THAT, WILL THEY COME TO THE CITY? HOW, HOW MUCH WOULD WE GIVE? LIKE IS IT A HUNDRED DOLLARS? IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL FOR US TO WORK WITH ANY OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES TO SEE IF WE CAN PARTNER IN GETTING SOME DISCOUNT FOR THOSE REBATES? I JUST WANNA HAVE AN IDEA HOW WILL THAT LOOK LIKE IT, UH, WITH THE WATER SAVER OPTION, AGAIN, I WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING STRICTLY AT SAN ANTONIO'S.
THEY, THEY DO HAVE A DOCUMENT ONLINE AND I CAN DEFINITELY SHARE THAT.
UM, BUT PRETTY MUCH IT WAS, YOU REMOVE APPROXIMATELY 200 SQUARE FEET OF GRASS, UM, AND YOU DO HAVE TO REMOVE, IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, PROBABLY MYSELF TO GO OUT THERE AND VERIFY THAT THE IRRIGATION MM-HMM.
'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE IRRIGATING.
UM, YEAH, THAT KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE.
UM, AND THEN THEY CAN GET A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
WE COULD HAVE A HIGHER, UH, REBATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD SET WHAT THAT REBATE WOULD BE.
I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF DOING THIS.
I JUST DON'T KNOW BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY TO YOUR POINT, WE WILL NEED TO SEND THE STAFF MEMBER TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING A REBATE AND THE PERSON IS ACTUALLY CHANGING THEIR LANDSCAPING.
AND I WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH FINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT, 'CAUSE I, I CAN'T WRITE CHECKS, I DON'T WANNA WRITE CHECKS.
I AM, I'M, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR REQUIRING THIS TO COMMERCIAL SITES, THE SERIES KEEPING AND THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF.
BUT I DON'T KNOW FINANCIALLY HOW WE WILL DO THE OTHER PART.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE, THE QUESTION IS JUST REALLY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN ANY OF THESE CONCEPTS? AND I THINK FOR ANY OF THESE OPTIONS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE, THEN WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THE REBATE MIGHT BE, HOW IT WOULD BE PROCESSED, WHAT DO WE THINK THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS.
I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THESE HAVE BEEN HEAVILY UTILIZED IN THE PAST.
AND, UH, SO THERE'S REALLY BEEN VERY MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE CITY.
UM, WE WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU.
THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RAIN BARREL PROGRAM.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO IT'S REALLY PART OF A LARGER SERIES OF OPTIONS ABOUT CONSERVATION THAT WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU AND, AND JUST GET SOME GENERAL FEEDBACK ABOUT HOW YOU'D LIKE US TO APPROACH IT.
UM, I'D LIKE MORE, I, I'D LIKE TO GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF ALL OF THESE OPTIONS, UM, TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND COST TO THE CITY.
UM, THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY ASKED WHAT WE COULD
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DO, UM, WHAT P AND Z COULD DO TO REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO, UM, TO INSTALL, UM, THE IN-HOME, THE LOW FLUSH TOILET SHOWER HEADS, DUO FLUSH CONVERSION KITS, TOILET TANK, FLAPPER REPAIR KITS, ALL OF THE, THE IN-HOME, UM, ITEMS THAT COULD BE USED FOR, UH, BETTER WATER EFFICIENT OR WATER EFFICIENCY WATER USE.UH, WHAT WOULD, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM, FROM US? WELL, I, I GUESS IF THE, IF THE, THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL IS IN ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WE DO FOR, FOR HOUSING THAT INCLUDES HOUSING IS THAT WE HAVE SOME KIND OF ELEMENTS IN THERE THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE WATER CONSERVATION AND WE COULD SPELL THOSE OUT AND THAT WOULD BE DIRECTION THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE TO US THAT WE COULD LOOK AT HOW TO DO THAT.
AND THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
I THINK SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING ISSUES THAT ARE OUT HERE, UM, OR HAVE HOAS, WE HAVE SOME ZONING ADJUST, YOU KNOW, STANDARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL TO SEE KIND OF HOW THAT WOULD BE DONE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A GLOBAL SOLUTION ON ACROSS THE CITY, BUT WE CAN COME BACK FOR WITH SOME MORE DETAILS FOR YOU.
BUT COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION IS ON SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS WITH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY INCLUDE THAT.
IT'S JUST DIRECTION GOING FORWARD.
THIS WOULD NEED TO BE MULTIPLE MOTIONS THEN.
IS THAT ACCURATE? POTENTIALLY.
OR, OR IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE IT ALL AT ONCE.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYONE'S GONNA FEEL ABOUT ALL OF IT.
SO, UM, BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA, I AGAIN, WE'RE, IF THE COUNSEL WANTS TO MAKE INDIVIDUAL MOTIONS, YOU CAN, BUT THIS IS REALLY MEANT TO BE MORE OF DISCUSSION OF JUST DIRECTION AND THEN WE'LL BRING YOU BACK ALL THESE DIFFERENT PIECES SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT YOU CAN ADOPT OF WHAT THE SPECIFIC REBATES AMOUNTS WOULD BE.
IF YOU WANNA JUST GIVE US DIRECTION OF HOW YOU'D WANT TO MAYBE, LIKE, I'D LIKE YOU TO DO THAT.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK OUR CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO BRING BACK OPTIONS FOR, UH, AROUND COSTS AND I GUESS LEGALITIES TO IMPLEMENT OPTIONS.
1, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE, UH, ON THE SLIDE HERE.
WELL, I'M NOT COUNTING MAKE NO CHANGES 'CAUSE THAT'S
ARE WE INCLUDING THE ARTIFICIAL TURF IN HERE? WE COULD WILL THERE ESCAPING, BUT, SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO APPROVE, UH, ALL THE CONCEPTS AND IN THE FORM OF GIVING THE CITY MANAGER A DIRECTION TO BRING BACK PROPO CONCRETE PROPOSALS IS THEIR SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE, UH, THIS DIRECTION.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.
[22. (First Reading) An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the Purpose of Amending Chapter 8, Building Regulations, Article VII, Building Regulations and Permitting Involving Pipelines and City’s Rights-Of-Way, Roadway and Utility Infrastructure, Section 8-251 Technical Provisions for Building Around Pipelines, to Amend the Restricted Pipeline Area from 200 Feet to 100 Feet of a Natural Gas Transmission Pipeline; Providing a Severability Clause, Effective Date, Open Meetings Clause, and Providing for Other Related Matters. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.FIRST READING IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING CHAPTER EIGHT, BUILDING REGULATIONS ARTICLE, UH, SEVENTH, WE ALREADY DID 21 BUILDING REGULATIONS AND PERMIT, UH, PERMITTING INVOLVING PIPELINES IN THE CITY'S DRIVEWAY, ROADS, ROADWAY AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
SECTION 8, 2 51, TECHNICAL PROVISIONS FOR BUILDING AROUND PIPELINES TO AMEND THE RESTRICTED PIPELINE AREA FROM 200 FEET TO 100 FEET OF A NATURAL GAS PIPE, TRANSMISSION LINE, ET CETERA.
MS. SUNS MAYOR AND COUNCIL PAGE SIGNED CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.
I DON'T, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO MOVE THAT ALONG.
UM, THE, BUT ON JULY 18TH, THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT, UH, REDUCES THE RESTRICTED AREA AND ADJACENT TO THE PIPELINES, GAS PIPELINES FROM 200 FEET TO 100 FEET.
AND THIS ORDINANCE ACHIEVES THAT DIRECTION AND COUNSEL HAS THE OPTION FOR APPROVING THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED, DENYING THE ORDINANCE OR GIVING FURTHER DIRECTIONAL REVISIONS TO BE MADE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? MOTIONS, COUNCIL FOR, FOR SCALE? ALL RIGHT.
UM, THIS IS NUMBER, I'M SORRY, 22.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, I DON'T QUITE GET THE REASON FOR THE SETBACK.
AND, UM, ODDLY ENOUGH, WHEN I WAS DRIVING AROUND KYLE, UH, COUNTY ROAD 2 0 2, I LOOK UP AND BEFORE ME I SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS, CAUTION HIGH PRESSURE GAS LINE AND IT'S RIGHT BY A SCHOOL.
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I LITERALLY MADE MYSELF SICK, WORRIED ABOUT BUILDING NEAR A GAS LINE WHEN I REALIZED THERE'S GAS LINES EVERYWHERE.LIKE, I WISH I AND SECOND THOUGHT I HAD WISHED THAT WE HAD JUST GOTTEN RID OF THE SETBACK ALTOGETHER AND JUST KEPT THE 50 FEET.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF, UM, COUNSEL WAS, UM, WILLING OR AMENABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT FURTHER.
UM, BECAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE MY CONCERN WAS SAFETY AND IT'S KIND OF BEEN THROWN OUT THE WINDOW SINCE I SEE GAS LINES, UH, SIGNS AND WARNINGS.
I SAW ANOTHER ONE TODAY, UM, EVERYWHERE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO IMPEDE ON THE LANDOWNERS, UM, ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY HAVE.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE, NOT JUST THE SETBACK, BUT THE EASEMENT.
AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT, MAYBE CUTTING IT BACK, THE SETBACK EVEN TO THE 50 FEET.
I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T KNOW IF A HUNDRED FEET AND 200 FEET AND 50 FEET, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET A CLEAR IDEA OF THAT AS FAR AS SAFETY ISSUES OR WHATEVER COUNSEL'S CONCERNS ARE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS ON THE SUGGESTION? IS IT COULD, COULD I MAKE A MOTION? YEP.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, TO GET RID OF THE SETBACK ALTOGETHER AND JUST MAKE THE, UM, JUST HAVE THE EASEMENT, THE 50 FEET EASEMENT, OR 50, THAT MEANS IT WILL BE THE SAME AS THE REST OF ALL THE GUYS.
YES, IT WOULD BE THE SAME SECOND.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES SCALE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THAT WE ELIMINATE THE SETBACK PROVISION ON THE NATURAL GAS PIPELINE, UH, ORDINANCE, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION NEAR KINDER MORGAN TO BE UP TO THE EASEMENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT OVER IT.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
AND EVEN THEN I MIGHT NOT GET IT RIGHT.
[23. Approve a contract for real estate broker services to be provided to the City of Kyle by Chris Torrey dba Elite Reality Advisors for the purposes of property acquisitions for public purposes. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Assistant City Manager]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23, APPROVE OF CONTRACT FOR REAL ESTATE, UH, UH, BROKERAGE SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED, UH, TO THE CITY OF KYLE BY CHRIS TORY, D B A ELITE REALTY ADVISORS FOR THE PURPOSES, PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS FOR PUBLIC PURPOSES.JERRY HENDRICKS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD BEFORE YOU IS, UH, AGREEMENT WITH, UH, CHRIS TORY, UH, D B A ELITE REALTY TO SERVE AS REAL ESTATE BROKER FOR US, UH, COUNCIL HAS MADE A PRIORITY AND STAFF HAS BEEN A PART OF THAT PRIORITY TO BEGIN ACQUIRING LAND IN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS.
UH, JUST HERE IN DOWNTOWN KYLE, WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OUT ADJACENT TO CITY HALL.
WE BOUGHT, UH, 1 0 7 VETERANS AND, UH, CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE COUNSEL ASKED, AND WE BRING BACK, UM, CHRIS TORY, WHO'S DONE THESE TRANSACTIONS FOR US IN THE PAST AND BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO, UH, SIGN AN AGREEMENT WITH HIM TO HAVE HIM MOVE FORWARD AND START WORKING TOWARDS OTHER PROPERTIES.
WE'RE CONSIDERING THE CONTRACT STIPULATES A 3% SALES PRICE TO BE A COMMISSION FOR HIM.
HE ONLY GETS PAID IF WE ACTUALLY, UH, PURCHASE AND SUCCESSFULLY CLOSE ON A PROPERTY.
UM, HE'LL WORK TO GAIN PAYMENT FROM THE SELLER, LANDLORD AGENTS, UH, CITY OF PAY AMOUNTS TO THE BROKER, UH, NOT PAID BY SELLER, LANDLORD OR AGENTS.
UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT WITH ANY PROVISIONS THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
THANK YOU MI MR. HENDRICKS, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? YOU KNOW, I HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS.
UM, NUMBER ONE IS THAT PART OF THE REASON FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD HAS TO DO WITH SOME PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IN EXEC.
SO, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM MY STANDPOINT AT LEAST, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO MAYBE LIMIT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE TO JUST THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING SO THAT
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IT'S NOT JUST A BLANKET INDEFINITE CONTRACT.SO I WAS CURIOUS IF COUNSEL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT SO THAT WE CAN LIMIT IT.
SO WE, WE CODENAMED THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, THAT WE HAVE SPECIFIC INTEREST IN BRINGING THIS CONTRACT, THIS P S A FORWARD ON, UH, THOSE WERE CODENAMED RAIL, UH, RAIL YARD AND GREAT OUTDOORS.
UH, I BELIEVE, BUT THE POINT OF THIS CONTRACT AS FAR AS I SEE IT, IS TO, UH, IMMEDIATELY TRY TO GO AND, UH, START WORKING ON PRODUCING DEALS ON THOSE TWO PARTICULAR, UH, CONCEPTS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING WE COULD PURSUE.
AND IF IT MADE COUNCIL MORE COMFORTABLE, WE COULD MAKE THAT DIRECTION TO BE STIPULATED IN THE CONTRACT SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST FOR AN UN FOR JUST AN OPEN KIND OF DISCUSSION, BUT RATHER SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND, UM, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT ALSO ADDING THE STIPULATIONS.
SHOULD I MENTION THEM? MM-HMM.
SO WE HAD CONVERSATIONS, UH, ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF OR STIPULATING THAT THERE CAN'T BE, THAT THE BROKER CAN'T BE AN INTERMEDIARY, SO HE WOULD REPRESENT US EXCLUSIVELY.
IS THAT THE ONE YOU WANTED THE MOST? THAT ONE AND THE 2%.
AND THEN IF WE, IF WE DO THE BOTH PROJECTS, UM, TOGETHER THEN AND AUTHORIZE HIM THAT WAY, THEN HE WOULD AGREE ON A 2% RATE.
MR. TORY IS HERE AS WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF HIM.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? I'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING.
I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS AND, AND I'M AMICABLE TO THAT, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE FOR FUTURE PURCHASES THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO GATHER A LIST OF REAL ESTATE BROKERS, LOCAL, LOCAL REAL ESTATE BROKERS THAT WE CAN USE IN OUR ROTATING BASIS SO EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE.
SO I THINK I COULD PUT ALL, ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS INTO A MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23 WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT MR. TORY NOT BE, UH, ALLOWED TO BE AN INTERMEDIARY.
THAT THE, UH, COMMISSION RATE BE, UH, REDUCED TO 2% THAT THE PROJECTS THAT HE BE AUTHORIZED TO PURSUE OR CODE NAMED RAIL YARD AND, UH, GREAT OUTDOORS.
WAS THAT IT? DID I MISS ONE? OH.
AND DIRECT AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO, UM, UH, PUT TOGETHER A PROCUREMENT POLICY FOR BROKERAGE SERVICES, UH, MOVING FORWARD FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THOSE TWO CODE NAMED.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? COUNCILOR
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WOULD NECESSARILY BE AN END DATE ON IT, BUT IT WOULDN'T E EITHER THE PROJECTS MAKE OR THEY DON'T.
IT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE PROJECTS BASED ON YOUR MOTION.
THERE'S NO END DATE IN THE CONTRACT, BUT IT COULD BE TERMINATED BY THE CITY AT ANY TIME.
MIGUEL, IT'S NOT GONNA STOP US FROM DOING ANYTHING ELSE AS PART OF THE R F P PROCESS IS ALL RIGHT.
I JUST DIDN'T, I DIDN'T WANT A CONTRACT TO BE OPEN ENDED WHERE IF WE'RE NOT MOVING ON IT, IT'S STILL THERE.
BUT THEN IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE ANOTHER DIRECTION, THERE'S STILL CONTRACT OPEN WITH MR. TORY.
SO I THINK IT'S SAFE, IT'S SPECIFIC TO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, BUT IF IT'S SPECIFIC ENOUGH I'M FINE WITH THAT.
YEAH, I DIDN'T WANT AN OPEN-ENDED CONTRACT.
ALL RIGHT, SO I JUST WANNA DISCLOSE, UH, I WAS NOT INFORMED THAT MR. TORRY, UH, PREVIOUSLY DID ANY OF THE, UM, NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE CITY.
AND SO I DO HAVE, UM, QUESTIONS.
SO HOW, WHEN WE USED MR. TORY PRIOR TO THIS, HOW, UM, WAS HE RECOMMENDED TO YOU? UH, I'M TRYING TO, I REMEMBER THAT THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES, UH, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND UH, UH, I BELIEVE MR. TORY'S NAME WAS MENTIONED AS THE PERSON THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO USE FOR THE PURCHASE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
I DON'T, NO, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT AN EXECUTIVE AGAIN.
WE WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE WE 1 0 8, BEFORE WE PURCHASED THE THREE BUILDINGS.
WELL IF THAT WAS AN EXECUTIVE, I CLEARLY MISSED ALL THREE OF THOSE TIMES THAT IT WAS, UH, IT WAS MENTIONED TO US.
SO, UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS GONNA BE FOR MR. TORY.
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ALL RIGHT.UM, SO DID YOU NEGOTIATE ONE 10 WEST CENTER AND 1 0 8 WEST CENTER FOR THE CITY? YES.
UM, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, WHY ARE WE VOTING ON THIS NOW? IF, IF, IF IT'S, IF WE PREVIOUSLY USED MR. TORY, WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR PERMISSION NOW? WE WANTED TO FORMALIZE A AGREEMENT WITH MR. TORY TO MOVE FORWARD FOR FUTURE PURPOSES.
YEAH, I, I THINK, UH, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF AN EXISTING CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH MR. TORY.
AND SO THAT'S, THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR ON THE RECORD.
SO, AS BROUGHT UP PRIOR TO, UH, BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF, UM, PROCESS TO THIS, AND NOT IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOW I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD, AS A, AS A CITY, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING TRANSPARENT AND OPEN THIS WHOLE TIME.
I, I DO NOT SUPPORT HOW MUCH WE PAID FOR, UM, THE, AT LEAST THE SECOND BUILDING, WHICH IS, UH, JACK'S, NOT JACK SAXES, PAPA JACK'S.
UM, I FEEL LIKE IT WAS SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, IT WAS PAID WAY MORE THAN WE SHOULD HAVE.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY NOT THE KIND OF NEGOTIATION SKILLS I WANNA SEE FOR THE CITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE GOTTEN SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT, UH, CLOSER TO WHAT WE PAID FOR, UH, THE, THE BUILDING THAT WAS ATTACHED.
AND SO, UM, I JUST, I JUST WISH WE COULD HAVE SEEN MORE OPTIONS BEFORE WE WERE PRESENTED WITH JUST ONE.
AND MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD, UH, COMPARISON PRICES AND APPRAISALS FOR PROPERTIES.
YEAH, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF WE'RE DOING THAT MOVING FORWARD, WHY DIDN'T WE DO THAT NOW? APPRAISALS THAT HAVE APPRAISALS FOR PROPERTIES? NO, NO.
WHY DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR, WE'VE ALL AGREED THAT MOVING FORWARD WE ARE GOING TO, UM, HAVE MORE OPTIONS.
SO MY, MY QUESTION WAS, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT NOW FOR, FOR REALTORS? IS, IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING? YES.
FOR THE BROKER? WELL, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DIRECTED ME TO BRING THIS CONTRACT FORWARD.
CUSTOMER HAS, I JUST, I THOUGHT IT WAS, BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED THERE WAS TIMELINESS AND TIME.
THIS IS ONLY, THIS ISN'T AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE OF THESE PROPERTIES.
WE CAN STILL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION DOWN THE ROAD.
WE'LL, YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT RUSHING TO GET ANYTHING THAT'S WE SPOKE ABOUT.
AND TIMELINESS IS NOT OF THE ESSENCE TO ME FOR THIS.
SO, WELL, I, YES, I, I, I'M WELL AWARE.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? JUST A COMMENT.
COUNCILOR ZUNIGA, UH, FROM MR. TORRY, UM, YOUR LISTINGS ON YOUR WEBPAGE, SIR.
UH, YOU DON'T, I DID NOT SEE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE? I KNOW YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, BUT THANK YOU.
DO YOU HAVE ANY UNDER YOUR LISTINGS CURRENTLY OR CLOSED AND SOLD? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
THE WEBSITE YOU SEE IS MOSTLY A RESIDENTIAL WEBSITE.
UH, A LOT OF THE OTHER BUSINESSES DONE, LIKE THROUGH COSTAR OR THROUGH LOOPNET, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL SITE.
AND, UM, YEAH, WE'VE CLOSED, UH, SEVERAL COMMERCIAL DEALS THIS YEAR.
UM, I, I WOULD SAY A HANDFUL, MAYBE SIX DEALS TOTAL SO FAR THIS YEAR.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.
[24. Discussion and possible action to direct City Manager to distinguish directional terms and city communications to reference central, northeast, northwest, southeast, and southwest. ~ Miguel A. Zuniga PhD, Council Member]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO DISTINGUISH DIRECTIONAL TERMS AND CITY COMMUNICATIONS TO REFERENCE CENTRAL, NORTHEAST, NORTHWEST, SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST.CUSTOMER ZUNIGA, I FORGOT THIS ONE WAS MINE.
SO
WE HAVE A LOT, LOT OF GROWTH, A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF EMERGENCIES WITH SOME OF THE WILDFIRES.
AND ALSO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CODE ISSUES.
AND, UM, AS A RESIDENT MYSELF, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU CALL KYLE PD, YOU, YOU, THE FIRST QUESTION YOU GET IS, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE INCIDENT? WHERE ARE YOU? AND AS A RESIDENT, YOU HAVE TO THINK RIGHT AWAY, OKAY, WHAT STREET IS THIS? UH, WHAT'S NEAR ME? AND, UM, SOMETIMES THAT MIGHT NOT BE READILY AVAILABLE.
SO IN ORDER TO BE MORE ACCURATE AND HELP SPEED UP, UM, RESPONSE TIMES OF YOU COULD KIND OF CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH DISPATCH BY SAYING, I'M, I'M IN SOUTHEAST KYLE, OR I'M IN NORTHWEST KYLE.
UM, THAT WOULD BE TERMINOLOGY THAT WOULD HELP NAVIGATE THIS ENTIRE CITY A BIT.
UH, THE OTHER REASON IS WITH THE LAST FIRE WILDFIRE EMERGENCIES, WHEN THE ANNOUNCEMENTS COME OUT FROM THE CITY SIDE, UM, WE HAVE THE ADVERTISING THAT SAYS WILDFIRE,
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UH, HOMES IN DANGER OR ACRES IN DANGER.AND ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYONE GOES INTO A PANIC.
UM, IS IT GONNA BE MY HOUSE? IS IT, IS IT, IS IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD? BUT IF WE HAD BIT MORE SPECIFICITY THAT SAYS FIRE NORTHWEST KYLE, OKAY, IF YOU'RE NORTHEAST, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAFER NOW.
IF YOU'RE SOUTHWEST, YOU'RE SAFER NOW.
SO THIS IS REALLY JUST TO GET US TO START THINKING AT THAT HIGHER LEVEL AS WE'RE GROWING.
AND THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING VERY COMMON IN, IN OTHER CITIES, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE LITTLE SPRINKLE, WE HAVE SOME SPRINKLES OF THAT ALREADY IN THE CITY.
WE'RE ALREADY REFERENCING SOME POINTS OF OUR, OF OUR CITY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE UBER MAP, THERE'S ALREADY TERMINOLOGY THAT SAYS NORTH LAKE.
THERE'S TERMINOLOGY THAT SAYS NORTH PLUM CREEK.
SO WE SHOULD START TO CONSIDER ADOPTING THIS AND, UM, TRYING TO BE MORE ACCURATE WITH OUR, UM, DIRECTIONS, WITH OUR NAVIGATIONS.
AND IT ALSO HELPS TO UNDERSTAND, UM, DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, WHERE ARE THEY? UM, FOR EXAMPLE, KINGS, INWOOD, AMBERWOOD.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS.
YES, THEY'RE BOTH NORTHEAST, BUT I GUESS I CAN GET A PROXIMITY AND SAY THEY'RE IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND I DON'T HAVE TO SCRAMBLE AROUND, UM, AND TRY TO FIND CERTAIN, CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS LIKE LIMESTONE.
UM, I DON'T THINK MANY RESIDENTS KNOW WHERE LIMESTONE IS.
AND THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONFUSION THAT WE SHOULD CLEAN UP.
IT GETS A LITTLE MURKY AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THESE ROADS.
UH, IN OUR PAST VISIONING WORKSHOP, UH, WE ARE DISCUSSING GO FORTH ROAD.
THERE'S AN OLD GO FORTH, AND THEN THERE'S A NEW GO FORTH.
AND I WAS TALKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS ABOUT GOFOR.
I NOT THOUGHT GOFOR WAS, UM, IN HIS AREA.
AND THEN I FIND OUT, NO, IT'S GOFOR COMING INTO MY AREA.
SO THERE WILL BE A CONNECTIVITY FOR THAT ROAD.
BUT IF, IF CITY COUNCIL OR STAFF WOULD SAY GULF FORTH SOUTHEAST, OKAY, IT'S MY ROAD, IT'S IN, IT'S IN MY AREA, MY ZONE, AND WE CAN REFERENCE DOWNTOWN AS CENTRAL.
NOW THIS MAY NOT GET APPROVAL.
A LOT OF MY, MY MOTIONS DON'T GET PASSED.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, UH, FOR ACCURACY TO BE MORE INTELLIGENT AND TO BE MORE AWARE OF, OF HOW WE'RE GROWING AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW RESIDENTS THAT, THAT MOVE INTO THIS CITY AS WELL.
I AM NOT, JUST, NOT LIKE, I DON'T WANNA HAVE THAT PERCEPTION HERE.
SHE COMES TO NOT APPROVE MY ITEM.
UM, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT MAKES SENSE.
'CAUSE PART OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE ROAD THAT THEY'RE IN.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'LL NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT QUADRANT YOU ARE FROM THE CITY.
AM I IN THE NORTHEAST OR SOUTHEAST OR SOUTHWEST? UM, THAT'S JUST, JUST MY OPINION.
IF IT'S LOCATION, I BELIEVE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ENOUGH DESCRIPTION IN THE REPORTS.
YOU KNOW, I KIND OF WENT A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH WITH WILL ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T KNOW FROM SAFETY PERSPECTIVE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE CHIEF OR OUR, UM, EMERGENCY COORDINATOR CAN WAIT IN.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL? BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DECIDE THIS, BUT MAYBE WE, WE COULD GIVE DIRECTION TO LOOK INTO MAYBE ANALYZING IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD WORK ON.
JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
SO FROM A DISPATCH STANDPOINT, THEY'RE TRAINED TO ASK A NUMBER OF QUESTIONING QUESTIONS TO DETERMINE SOMEONE'S LOCATION.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, DEPENDING ON THE DEVICE THAT YOU'RE USING TO TALK TO DISPATCH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRIANGULATE AND FIND YOU.
UH, MOST LIKELY IF YOU'RE USING A CELL PHONE, WE CAN G P S TRACK YOU.
SO WE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THOSE THINGS NOW.
THE REST OF IT IS JUST A POINT OF DISCUSSION THAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO IDENTIFY CERTAIN AREAS AND WE'LL INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE QUESTIONINGS THAT WE, WE ASK IN 9 1 1.
UM, BUT THE REST I'LL LEAVE TO WILL, IF HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANNA DO MESSAGING AND RACHEL, HOW WE WANNA DO MESSAGING FOR EVENTS.
'CAUSE I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WANNA KNOW WHAT PART OF TOWN IS THAT IN IF THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE STREET.
BUT FROM A DISPATCHING STANDPOINT, WHERE WE GO AND OUR OFFICERS ARRIVING AT CALLS, FIRST RESPONDERS ARRIVING, I THINK WE'VE GOT THAT COVERED.
THANK YOU CHIEF FOR THE RECORD.
WILL PI STOSH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, WE CURRENTLY RELEASE THE CROSSROADS AT THE VERY MINIMUM FOR ANY SORT OF EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENTS UNLESS IT AFFECTS THE CITYWIDE.
AND THEN WE SAY ALL ACROSS THE CITY, UH, BOIL WATER NOTICE IS RELEASED WITH A POLYGON SHOWING MORE OR LESS WHERE ALL OF THE WATER CUSTOMERS ARE AS SEPARATE FROM,
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UH, MONARCH OR THEIR NEW NAME AND ANY OTHER WATER PROVIDERS THAT MAY BE OPERATING IN OUR CITY LIMITS WITH THE NEW FUSS SOFTWARE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START DOING THAT WITH WILDFIRES.WE'LL BE ABLE TO PLOT THEM A LOT FASTER THAN HAVING A FLYOVER AND HAVE THEM SEND A MAP THE NEXT DAY.
SO IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING POSITIVE TO COME OUT OF THIS, I I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, THE POSITIVE ASPECTS OF HAVING THIS DISTRICT OR REGION'S DIVISION WOULD BE.
BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF JUST THE NAME, I WILL THINK IT WILL CREATE EVEN MORE DIVISION THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I DON'T MAKE MENTION OF EAST WEST.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO NOT SEE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS JUST GOING TO REINFORCE SOME SORT OF DIVISION WITHIN THE CITY.
I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY AUSTIN HAS.
I HAVE ONLY HEARD SOUTH AUSTIN, NORTH AUSTIN, SO.
UM, I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS TO, UH, THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE, UH, 'CAUSE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY AND THE GROWTH, JUST REFERENCING WHAT ZIKA'S SAYING ABOUT THE FIRE OR THE EMERGENCY WE HAD, WHENEVER THE CALL WENT OUT FOR THE OAK GROVE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS AT, UM, INCLUDING WHAT AZTEC VILLAGE.
AND I REMEMBER, UH, WHEN THAT CAME OUT, I REMEMBER SENDING AN EMAIL TO RACHEL.
'CAUSE I THINK THE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PART OF, WAS IT SAN MARCUS OR KYLE.
BUT ANOTHER EXAMPLE I SEE IS WE RECEIVED OUR MICROSOFT ROADS MAP THAT CAME OUT AND LIST A BUNCH OF STREETS.
SO I CAN SEE AT THE VERY END IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY GOING TO BE NEAR CENTER STREET.
BUT I GUESS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS IT WOULD BE HELPFUL I GUESS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE OR SPECIFIC ROADS THAT NEED TO BE REPAIRED.
UH, I KNOW THE POLICE USE SECTORS CORRECT LIKE, LIKE, UH, BAKER, LIKE IN AUSTIN, IT'S CHARLIE UNIT, CHARLIE AREA, GEORGE UNIT DOWNTOWN, THOSE KIND OF SCENARIOS.
ALPHA, BEN, BRAVO, ALL THAT STUFF.
SO I, IT IT'S JUST AS OUR CITY'S GROWING THERE, WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING IN.
I THINK ALSO IT WOULD HELP MAYBE TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR C I P IF WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON A SPECIFIC DISTRICT OR REGION, UM, WE COULD JUST USE THOSE TERMS LIKE SOUTHWEST OR SOUTHEAST OR EAST CENTRAL OR CENTRAL KYLE.
IT COULD GIVE PEOPLE A BETTER DIRECTION OF LIKE WHERE SOME OF THE ROADWORKS GONNA BE DONE.
OR ALSO IF THERE'S DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING UP, UM, WE CAN SAY IT IS SOUTHEAST OR EAST CENTRAL AND WE CAN HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF THE PART OF CITY THIS IS, THIS IS COMING TO, 'CAUSE AGAIN, A LOT OF US WHO HAVEN'T LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I KNOW WHERE ALL THE BACK ROADS ARE BY THE WAY.
UH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THE ROADS OF GULF FORTH AND Y'ALL KNOW WHERE COUNTRY COUNTRY ROAD IS IN GREEN PASTURES THAT AREA.
IT'S EXACTLY, UM, SO IT'S THOSE KIND OF ROADS CROSSROADS THAT, THAT MAYBE COULD HELP IDENTIFY CERTAIN REGIONS OF THE CITY WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OR WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT ROAD PROJECTS.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION, WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH GULF FORTH ROAD AND DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE WERE IN THE WHOLE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING JUST TO MAYBE WE SHOULD START LOOKING AT OR GET SOME SUGGESTIONS ON HOW WE CAN DO THAT GOING FORWARD.
UH, WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD, UH, FROM A, FROM A CARDINAL DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE COMPASS AND YOU GOT NORTH, SOUTHEAST, WEST, SOUTHEAST, SOUTHWEST.
UH, WHERE WE START, IT STARTS GETTING MURKY IS WHEN YOU START CREATING SECTORS IN TERMS OF LIKE CENTRAL KYLE, UM, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
WE KNOW, OR WE'RE, WE'RE HONING IN ON WHERE THAT AREA IS SPECIFICALLY FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.
BUT HOW FAR OUT DOES CENTRAL KYLE GO FROM AN AREA PERSPECTIVE? SO, UM, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY RECOMMEND SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM LIKE LITTLE PODS OF THAT, IF YOU WILL.
OR, UM, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IS TO OF COURSE USE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CREATED WI WITHIN THE SUBDIVISIONS AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UM, CARDINAL DIRECTIONS IS FINE.
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BY JUST GOING BACK TO THE BASICS OF, OF USING DISTRICTS, AGAIN, DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO, WE, WE ALREADY HAVE 'EM SPLIT UP.WE CAN UTILIZE THAT MAP OF AREAS OF TOWN.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL DISTRICTS? MM-HMM.
LIKE, WELL, IT'S SPECIFIC DISTRICT FOUR OR DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT SIX.
I MEAN, I GUESS FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, 'CAUSE AGAIN, NOT EVERYBODY MIGHT KNOW WHERE IT WOULD BE AT.
AND THERE'S TIMES WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S LIKE IT'S OVER THERE FOR ONE 50 AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHERE WE GOTTA SEE THE MAP.
AND AGAIN, CERTAIN AREAS PEOPLE DON'T UNDER DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT.
WELL, I THINK IF THE, IF THE IDEA IS THAT WE GENERALLY DO A BETTER JOB OF JUST PROVIDING SOME DIRECTION OF WHERE THINGS ARE WHEN WE'RE MAKING MEDIA ANNOUNCEMENTS OR OTHER KINDS OF DEVELOPMENT CASES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO ALL THAT.
WE CAN COME UP WITH A MAP, DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE COUNCIL AND JUST SAY, HERE'S SOME GENERAL AREAS.
I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT OF OUR ACTUAL DISTRICTS AND ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IF IT'S JUST FOUR QUADRANTS AND THE CENTRAL CORE AREA OF THE DOWNTOWN THAT YOU'RE FOCUSED ON, WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND SEND IT TO YOU GUYS AND, AND SEE IF THAT'S, I THINK IF I'M HEARING RIGHT, THAT'S THE GENERAL IDEA IS, IS WHEN YOU'RE HAVING AN EMERGENCY OR SOME CASES COMING UP THAT WE IDENTIFY, IT'S IT'S IN THIS PART OF THE CITY.
AND, AND TO ADD TO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE ARE, ARE EXPANDING AND THERE'S BEEN TIMES WE'VE, WE'VE ANNEXED AREAS.
WE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THE DIVIDE BETWEEN WHAT'S THE CITY AND WHAT'S THE COUNTY.
IF WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON BB ROAD, HOW FAR UP DO WE NEED TO GO BEFORE IT COMES INTO PRECINCT TWO? AND IT'S JUST THOSE KIND OF GENERALIZED AREAS AND MAPS.
UM, SO I TOO WAS REALLY CONFUSED BY THE AZTEC FIRE.
AND UM, ORIGINALLY WHEN I HEARD A RED TALK TO SPOKE ABOUT THE, THE LABELING OF SOUTHWEST SOUTHEAST, I THOUGHT IT WAS, UM, A LITTLE SILLY UNTIL I THOUGHT, HEY, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY LAYS OUT.
AND SO ODDLY ENOUGH, TODAY WHEN I'M DROPPING MY DAUGHTER OFF AT HAYES HIGH SCHOOL, I SEE, UH, A NORTH PLUMP CREEK, WHICH I THOUGHT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
LIKE THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THAT LOCATION.
SO WHEN YOU TELL SOMEBODY YOU'RE IN PLUM CREEK AND YOU THINK ABOUT HOW BIG IT IS, SO THEY SPECIFY THEIR LOCATION BY SAYING THAT THEY'RE NORTH PLUM CREEK.
SO DO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR A CITY? I DO.
I THINK TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ON MAKING SURE WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT OR WHERE WE WHERE WE'RE DEVELOPING, ESPECIALLY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE, UM, SPECIFIC NORTH SOUTHEAST.
AND IT, I, FOR ME, IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT DIVISION, IT'S ABOUT LOCATION AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND 'CAUSE OUR CITY'S GROWING SO BIG.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO TO KIND OF DEFINE THAT THOUGH.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO WILL TO, TO SAY, HEY LOOK,
BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THAT PICTURE, I, I SNAPPED IT, SENT IT TO ZUNIGA, I WAS LIKE, LOOK, THIS MAKES SENSE NOW I GET IT.
LIKE WAS A LIGHT BULB THAT CAME ON FOR ME.
UM, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, UM, SMALL THINGS.
IT'S ABOUT THE BIG THING ABOUT KNOWING WHERE WE'RE AT AND, AND BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN NOT JUST TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO OUR FRIENDS, LIKE WHERE WE LIVE AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA MEET UP AT.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY SPECIFIC.
UM, SO WHENEVER WE ARE BEGINNING TO MEET WITH DEVELOPERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO ASK IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA BE CALLING YOUR DEVELOPMENT? UH, THE PRIMARY REASON IS WE DON'T WANT ANY SIMILAR NAMES TO OTHER EXISTING PROJECTS FOR FIRE SAFETY, FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND ALL THAT.
UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF OAKS OF, OR A LOT OF BUTTON CREEKS AND, AND RELATED STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, JUST SOMETHING TO ADD ON TO THAT AS AN IDEA.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF ACTION ON IT, BUT IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK INTO THE OPTIONS OR BENEFITS OF CREATING THIS DISTRICT OR JUST TO SEE IF THERE IS A GOOD POTENTIAL OR GOOD BENEFIT TO IT? I BELIEVE I GAVE VERY LOGICAL EXPLANATIONS UP HERE.
I THINK THAT THE REASON WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS IS BECAUSE I'M THE PERSON THAT BROUGHT IT UP HERE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO, TO DIRECT BRIAN.
MR. LANGLEY TO, UM, TO GIVE US SOME OPTIONS IS ON THE LAYOUT OF THE CITY BASED ON GEO GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION, GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS.
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OKAY.USING COUNCILWOMAN COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES CALE'S EXAMPLE OF HOW, WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE IN PLUM CREEK, PEOPLE KIND OF KNOW WHERE THAT IS ACROSS THE CITY.
AND ALSO CAN WE, I THINK THERE'S MANY OTHER EXAMPLES OF HOW WE COULD USE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO IDENTIFY LOCATION.
MAY I, MAY I JUST MAKE A QUICK COMMENT TO THAT SECOND ADDED A YES.
JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, PLUM CREEK NORTH CAME AFTER THE PLUM CREEK BASICALLY MASTER PLAN WAS DONE.
AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNEW THAT THEY'RE NOT A PART OF THE ACTUAL PLUM CREEK AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME H O A OR THE SAME.
IT WAS JUST LIKE, AND THAT IT, SO JUST LIKE, HEY, WE'RE NOT THE SAME.
TO TALK ABOUT THE KIND OF DIVISION THAT I MENTIONED, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW KNOW, I JUST, I LET YOU KNOW, SAID, HEY, THEY HAVE POOL, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN THINGS.
UM, ANYWAY, UM, BUT CAN WE ALSO TOUCH IF, WHEN HE YOU BRING BACK THAT INFORMATION, CAN WE TOUCH ON THE FACT THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW COUNCIL FEELS ROADS GOING FROM EAST TO WEST WITH THE SAME NAME.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF CONFUSING.
UM, I, I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
DOES DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I, I I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING YOU SOME AREAS THAT WE COULD CALL NORTHWEST, YOU KNOW, SOUTHEAST, EVEN NORTHEAST, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
BUT PLUM CREEK NORTH IS IN THE NORTHWEST PART PORTION OF THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MORE CONFUSING OR LESS CONFUSING PERSONALLY.
SO I, I THINK WE COULD CERTAINLY GIVE YOU SOME GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES OF SOME DISTRICTS AND SAY THESE ARE THESE AREAS.
DOES THIS SOUND ABOUT RIGHT, WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING? WHEN WE SAY CENTRAL KYLE, I DON'T THINK THE, THE DOWNTOWN, EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF US THINK OF AS CENTRAL KYLE, IT'S REALLY NOT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO KNOW.
AND SO YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, SO WE COULD CALL THIS THE DOWNTOWN AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK WILL AND I CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT'S REALLY JUST A USEFUL TOOL FOR WHEN WE COMMUNICATE DIFFERENT EVENTS AROUND THE CITY.
UH, AND THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE FOR.
AND IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE'D TRY TO IDENTIFY IT.
BUT I, I THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NAMED CERTAIN THINGS THAT DON'T ALWAYS FIT WITH THESE CATEGORIES.
SO NORTH PLUM CREEK IS GONNA BE A NORTHWEST, YOU KNOW, AREA, OR IT COULD BE CENTRAL KYLE, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE IT.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THIS HAS TO BE COMPLICATED.
I MEAN, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT EAST WEST, BUT WE'RE NOT REFINING THAT.
SO LET'S JUST BE MORE REFINED IN OUR, IN OUR LANGUAGE AND GIVE EACH OTHER BETTER, I GUESS, MORE ACCURATE SPECIFICITY OF WHERE THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE.
WHAT SIDE OF THE CITY ARE WE ON? SO, YEP, THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING FOR.
WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO PUT YES, SIR.
WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY TO PUT A MAP TOGETHER LIKE THAT, THAT HOPEFULLY CAPTURES THE ESSENCE OF THE CONVERSATION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
I I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT IT ANYMORE.
[25. Debrief to residents and council regarding the Oak Hill Fire, including but not limited to, discussion regarding EOC procedures, communication with council from the Emergency Management Coordinator and future protocols regarding emergencies and evacuations. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale and Miguel A. Zuniga PhD, Council Members]
AGENDA ITEM 25.DEBRIEF, UH, TO RESIDENTS AND COUNSEL REGARDING OAK HILL FIRE, INCLUDING ME, NOT LIMITING TO DISCUSSIONS REGARDING, UH, E O C PROCEDURES, COMMUNICATION WITH COUNSEL FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, AND FUTURE PROTOCOLS REGARDING EMERGENCIES AND EVACUATIONS.
UM, I BROUGHT THIS 'CAUSE I WANT TO GIVE THE FLOOR TO YOU.
I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE AND, AND MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT CLEANER, CLEARER NEXT TIME.
UM, I FEEL LIKE WE KIND OF WENT OVER THIS IN COVID, UM, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE AN EMERGENCY COORDINATOR DURING THAT TIME.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE A EMERGENCY COORDINATOR, SO I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK.
AND, UM, UH, AGAIN, I'M BILL PISTE BOSCH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
I'VE DEVELOPED THIS, UH, BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE AFTER ACTION THAT Y'ALL BE RECEIVING.
YOU'LL RECEIVE A WRITTEN DOCUMENT WITH A FORMAL AFTER ACTION REPORT AND IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN THE COMING DAYS.
UH, 15 AND A HALF ACRES BURNED.
APPROXIMATELY 50 TO 60 HOMES WERE EVACUATED AS A PRECAUTION BY THE INCIDENT COMMANDER ON SCENE.
WHO WAS, UH, CHIEF, UH, CHIEF TAYLOR OF THE KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
CHIEF KYLE WOULD JUST BE TWO ON THE NOSE OF THE KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, THIS IS THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS ONE FORTY SEVEN.
THE CALL CAME IN, UH, THROUGH ACTIVE 9 1 1 TO OUR DISPATCH CENTER.
THEY WERE ALERTED OF FIRE OF A FIRE IN THIS AREA.
I WAS NOTIFIED BY CHIEF BARNETT AS HE WAS EN ROUTE TO THE SCENE.
COMMANDER JONES WAS THE PD LIAISON AT THE SCENE UNTIL CHIEF BARNETT'S ARRIVAL WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PUBLIC WORKS, UH, WAS ALSO OUT THERE WITH THEIR WATER TRUCKS TRYING TO KEEP A, A TAMPER ON THINGS UNTIL ADDITIONAL RESOURCE COME OUT.
BIG SHOUT OUT TO THEM BECAUSE THAT IS NOT WITHIN THEIR WHEELHOUSE OR THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION AND THEY ABSOLUTELY ROCKED IT.
UH, WE HAD AIR ASSETS, WE HAD ASSETS FROM ALL OVER THE REGION WITHIN HALF
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AN HOUR.YOU COULDN'T GET A PIZZA FASTER THAN CHIEF TAYLOR GOT EVERYTHING IN HERE TO INCLUDE BUCKET DROPS FROM THE AIR.
UM, UNION PACIFIC WAS NOTIFIED.
THE E O C WAS OPEN FOR THE FIRST TIME.
WE HAD STAFF AT THE E O C PARKS AND RECREATION WAS LEADING THE MAS CARE EFFORT.
WE OPENED UP THREE CENTERS AT, OKAY, WE'RE SAFE.
WE, UH, WE OPENED UP THREE COOLING CENTERS FOR PEOPLE DISPLACED, UH, TO WAIT OUT THE FIRE UNTIL THEY COULD FIND OUT IF THEY'RE RETURNING TO THEIR HOMES OR NOT.
H E B WAS CONTACTED BY THE COUNTY, MIKE JONES, UH, TO SOLICIT DONATIONS FOR THOSE, UH, AIR FOR THOSE CENTERS.
PARKS AND RECREATION WITHOUT ANY LIKE PROMPTING.
PUT TOGETHER A BUNCH OF BOARD GAMES TO MAKE SURE NOBODY GOT BORED AT OUR CENTERS AND WENT OUT AND ACTIVELY SERVICED ALL THREE LOCATIONS.
UH, AT FIVE 16, I WAS NOTIFIED OF 90% CONTAINMENT AND THAT THE ROADS WOULD BE REOPENING SOON THAT PEOPLE COULD RETURN TO THEIR HOMES AND WAS GIVEN THE GOOD NEWS THAT THERE WERE NO, UH, LOSSES OF LIFE OR PROPERTY LIKE THIS WILL ALL BE IN THE AFTER DIRECTION AS WELL.
IF YOU WANNA REVIEW THE TIMELINE.
UH, THE OPERATION ITSELF AT THE SCENE WAS HEADED UP BY KYLE FIRE.
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS IN SUPPORT.
THE E O C WAS STAFFED BY CITY MANAGERS.
BRIAN WAS THERE, JERRY WAS THERE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS.
PARKS AND RECREATION WAS REPRESENTED BY CLAUDIA.
UH, EVERYTHING REGARDING MASS CARE WAS RUN FROM THERE.
ANY SUPPORT THAT THE INCIDENT COMMAND HAD NEEDED IS PROVISIONED FROM THAT LOCATION.
UM, IT BECAME THE INFORMATION CLEARING HOUSE.
IF ANYONE WANTED TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, WE HAD THAT INFO AT THE E O C.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THE FUTURE.
'CAUSE THAT WAS GIVEN THE SMALL SIZE OF THE INCIDENT.
GIVEN WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST.
HARVEY COVID, UH, THE FIRST WINTER STORM, NO, THIS WINTER STORM, THIS WAS LIKE A TEXTBOOK ACTIVATION OF AN E O C.
IT WORKED OUT THE PEOPLE WHO NEEDED TO BE THERE TO MAKE DECISIONS THEY NEEDED TO MAKE WERE THERE QUICKLY.
INCIDENT COMMAND BASICALLY RAN ITSELF.
UH, THEY WERE VERY CELL CONTAINED BECAUSE THEY WERE ADDRESSING THE ONE THING THE FIREFIGHTERS KNOW HOW TO DO BEST, WHICH IS A BIG FIRE.
IT DIDN'T BREAK OUT OF ITS BOUNDARIES, UH, SPREAD ANYWHERE ELSE.
SO IT WAS MORE OR LESS AS IDEAL AS A FIRE CAN BE WITHOUT IT NOT BEING A FIRE.
UH, THE ONLY THINGS THAT I WOULD BE ASKING FOR PROTOCOL TO ACTIVATE THE E O C I MADE THAT CALL WHILE DRIVING UP HERE.
WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, POLICY IN PLACE.
AND THERE ARE DRAFTS SITTING IN FRONT OF JERRY, BRIAN, AND AMBER.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO DISTINGUISH A LIMITED AND FULL ACTIVATION.
WHAT SORT OF STAFF WE SHOULD EXPECT, UH, WHO WILL BE ASSIGNED TO RESPOND AS WELL AS, UH, BEST PRACTICES OF THREE DEEP LIST OF ALTERNATES.
IF THE FIRST IS NOT ABLE TO RESPOND DUE TO THE DISASTER, THEIR ALTERNATE WILL SHOW UP.
UH, PARKS AND RECREATION REQUESTED ADDITIONAL MATERIALS TO TAKE TO OUR SHELTERS OR CENTERS AS THEY MAY OPEN ANY SORT OF, UH, MASS CARE OPERATIONS.
WE SHOULD ALSO ADOPT A FORMER SHELTER POLICY.
ONE I'M USING THIS LANGUAGE CENTERS.
WHAT ARE CENTERS? A TRUE SHELTER IS DEFINED IN THE MASS CARE ANNEX, THE FEDERAL LEVEL BY THE RED CROSS AND BY THE STATE AS FACILITIES THAT HOUSE PEOPLE FOR PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME.
USUALLY OVERNIGHT, WATER, FOOD, ALL THESE THINGS ARE PROVIDED A CENTER SHORT TERM, YOU'RE JUST OUT OF THE SUN, YOU'RE OUT OF THE HEAT.
YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME WATER PARKS BROUGHT BOARD GAMES, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THE FULL MASS CARE PACKAGE.
SO WHAT IS FORMALLY IN POLICY A CENTER VERSUS A SHELTER? WHAT DOES THE CITY DISTINGUISH THESE THINGS? THAT IS ALSO DRAFTED, THAT'S BEFORE THE CITY MANAGEMENT RIGHT NOW.
UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, WITH YOU GUYS, CONDUCT A TABLETOP E O C EXERCISE BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A, UH, A COMPLETE GRASP OF WHAT THE EOCS RELATIONSHIP IS WITH THE INCIDENT COMMAND POST, WHAT YOUR ALL'S ROLES ARE IN THE E O C.
AND HONESTLY, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE FUN.
I CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.
SO ON THE DAY OF THE FIRE, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT YOU GOT A LOT OF MESSAGES AND EMAILS AND, UH, EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL WAS EMAILING OR TEXTING SOMEBODY.
AND, UM, I CANNOT ONLY IMAGINE HOW OVERWHELMING IT IS WHEN YOU DON'T GET ANSWERS RIGHT AWAY.
LIKE I STARTED GETTING LIKE, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW, IS IT COMING TO KYLE'S, NOT COMING TO KYLE, HOW FAR IT IS, IS IT CONTAINED? IS IT NOT CONTAINED? NOBODY'S RESPONDING.
SO I'M TEXTING CHIEF TAYLOR AND I'M PRETTY SURE HE WAS GETTING TEXT MESSAGES FROM EVERYBODY.
AND THEN, UH, IF I DON'T HEAR FROM HIM, THEN HE SENT ME A MESSAGE FOR MIKE JONES.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO ESTABLISH ON EMERGENCIES LIKE THIS, TO HAVE A LINE OF ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, YES.
COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US CITY MANAGERS OR DIRECTORS, ANYBODY THAT IS GOING TO BE AFFECTED.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE BUGGING PEOPLE.
WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU KNOW, NOW THERE, THERE IS A PLAN.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A WRITTEN PLAN FOR THIS.
I'M TRYING TO CREATE A WRITTEN PLAN FOR THIS.
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TO ME, I BROUGHT IN EVERYBODY WHO IS TEXTING ME CONSTANTLY INTO THE E O C.AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA DO WITH YOU GUYS.
WE DO HAVE ROOM IN THAT BUILDING TO HOUSE ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO HOST STANDARD BRIEFINGS.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT IT.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, A FEW PEOPLE DID COME.
THEY OBSERVED WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I DID SEE MAYOR PROTIME THERE.
I DID SEE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER THERE.
THEY LOOKED IN, THEY SAW, AH, THE OPERATION'S PROGRESSING.
UPDATES WERE COMING IN AND IT WASN'T FLOODING PEOPLE'S PHONES.
BECAUSE THE LAST THING I KNOW CHIEF TAYLOR LEFT, THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS PESTER HIM FOR HALF HOUR UPDATES.
UM, LUCKILY THIS ONE WAS SMALL, BUT LIKE THE OAK ROW FIRE, 400 SOME ODD ACRES.
I DON'T WANNA BOTHER HIM EVERY HALF HOUR.
I SHOULDN'T BOTHER HIM EVERY HALF HOUR.
SO WHEN THEY RELEASE THAT INFO, IF WE HAVE THESE CONSISTENT BRIEFINGS WITHIN THE E O C FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS, FOR, UH, MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS, FOR CITY MANAGEMENT, THEN YOU DON'T NEED TO TEXT, YOU DON'T NEED TO SPECULATE.
AND THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I WANNA HAVE THE EXERCISE WITH YOU GUYS TO, I I THINK THAT WOULD BE, TO GO OVER ALL OF THIS.
AND IT'S NOT JUST IN WRITING, BUT IT'S IMPRINTED IN THE DOING PART OF YOUR BRAIN.
IT, IT, IT WOULD BE SUPER BENEFICIAL.
IF YOU DON'T MIND ADDING, JUST GOT HOME FROM WORK, GOT READY TO CHANGE MY SHORTS AND T-SHIRT AND GOT CALLS FROM EVERYBODY.
THERE'S A FIRE ON ROLAND LANE, OBVIOUSLY.
SO OF COURSE THE PANIC SET IN AND EVERYBODY WAS CALLING ME AND I FIND OUT I DID NOT CHECK MY EMAIL AT AZTEC VILLAGE.
AND IT'S LIKE, I ALREADY KNOW THAT AREA WITH ALL MOBILE HOMES, SO GET IN THE CAR AND I DROVE BY, OF COURSE I DON'T STOP BECAUSE I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE PERSON.
BUT I WENT TO THE LIBRARY TO CHECK ON THE SHELTER.
AND SO THAT'S KIND WHY I MADE A CALL TO ONE OF THE SPECIFIC MANAGERS.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, JUST CHECKING IN, SEE IF ANYBODY NEEDS ANYTHING.
THEN I WENT TO THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH AND THEY WERE ALREADY SETTING UP THERE IN THE FELLOWSHIP HALL MM-HMM.
UM, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WHO FROM THE CITY WAS ACTUALLY NEEDING TO REPORT AT THE FIRST BAPTIST.
AND ALSO AT THE LIBRARY, CLAUDIA DID ARRANGE FOR STAFF FROM PARKS AND RECS TO BE AT BOTH.
UH, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE AT THE TIME THAT EACH WERE OPENED.
LIBRARY SENT ME A HEAD COUNT OF SIX THAT ARRIVED AT THEIR FACILITY FOR THE DURATION OF THE FIRE.
AND, AND MAYBE I GOT THERE BEFORE THEY GOT THERE.
BUT I MEAN, I, I DID HEAR THAT EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS PLANNED OUT ALL THE WAY.
AND SO I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL THAT WE DO IN THESE SITUATIONS.
UH, WE USE THE, WE GET A COMMAND CENTER GOING AN INSTANT COMMAND CENTER.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE PEOPLE THERE AND IF WE NEED TO DO A LIVE BROADCAST, LIKE A FACEBOOK POST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GIVE AN UPDATE SO THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN KNOW.
'CAUSE AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE LIKE SAYING, WHAT'S THE STATUS? WHAT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.
RACHEL, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THAT A LOT OF RESIDENTS FROM MY SIDE OF TOWN WAS LIKE SAYING YOU GUYS WERE ON IT.
YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE EVERY LIKE HOUR OR HALF HOUR THERE WAS A, THERE WAS SOMETHING.
AND UH, OF COURSE WITH THE WIMBERLEY FIRES, THAT REALLY MADE EVERYBODY NERVOUS.
I THINK IT, AFTER, AFTER A WHILE, ONCE YOU GET A POSSE GOING, I THINK IT'LL REALLY HELP.
AND, AND I WOULD DO, I WOULD SUGGEST, UH, A MOCK EXERCISE WITH COUNCIL TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE FAMILIARITY.
I'LL ASK HOW TO BUDGET POLICY AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALL THE, THE, THE SERVICE AND THE SUPPORT DURING THE FIRES AND FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENT MADE ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTERS.
UM, THE ONLY THING IS, SO HOW MANY PEOPLE EVACUATED OUT OF THE FIRES TO THE CHURCH OR TO THE LIBRARY OR AN ESTIMATED OF SEVEN PEOPLE, SIR.
AND THEN DURING THAT OAK GROVE ONE, I GUESS THAT I DON'T HAVE FINGERS ON, DID, DID HE NEED EVACUATE BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN OUR CITY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHO WAS EVACUATED, WHERE THEY WENT.
SO I, I DID SEND AN EMAIL AND I WAS REQUESTING THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER OR THE CITY HALL BE USED AS A COOLING CENTER.
SINCE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF VERY TRIPLE DIGIT, UM, HEAT DAYS MM-HMM.
UM, UM, FOR A COOLING CENTER, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE THEY WOULD GET IS, IS JUST WATER BASICALLY.
AND SOMEBODY THAT WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
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IF IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.UH, THE LOBBY AREA IS OPEN, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TOUCH ON IN THE SHELTER POLICY, DEFINING WHAT A CENTER IS.
ALL A CENTER IS, IS JUST A BUILDING THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY OR A BUILDING THAT WE DESIGNATE AND IS MANNED BY CITY STAFF THAT'S OPEN DURING THE DAY.
UH, THIS ROOM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NEVER LOCKED DURING BUSINESS HOURS.
ANYONE CAN COME IN OFF THE STREET TO COOL OFF.
SAME THING WITH THE LIBRARY, SAME THING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.
WHETHER OR NOT WE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED RIGHT.
WE, WE DO NOT PUBLICLY ANNOUNCE THAT.
SO HOW WOULD RESIDENTS KNOW, HEY, IF MY AIR CONDITIONING'S OUT AT HOME, UM, THERE'S A PLACE FOR ME TO GO COOL OFF.
AND IT'S NOT THE LIBRARY BECAUSE NOT EVERY, NOT EVERYBODY'S NEAR THE LIBRARY.
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BE IN ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY WHERE ANOTHER, A FACILITY MIGHT BE CLOSER TO THEM.
WELL, AND ARE WE TALKING, UH, HYPOTHETICAL CONTEXT OF JUST SOMEBODY WITHOUT POWER AT THE MOMENT? OR ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE? WELL, I GUESS IT'S A, UM, IN AS A COOLING CENTER, IF, DO WE STILL HAVE THE COOLING CENTERS GOING ON TO, UM, HERE IN, HERE IN THE CITY? IS THE LIBRARY STILL COOLING CENTER AS DEFINITION? IT WOULD NOT BE AN EMERGENCY OPERATION IF SOMEBODY JUST LOST POWER AND WANTED TO GO COOL OFF SOMEWHERE.
BUT THEY CAN STILL WALK INTO ANY BUILDING BECAUSE WE'RE ALL OPEN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PARKS BUILDING.
AND EVEN THAT, EVEN THAT ONE, I'M NOT SURE, I'VE JUST ALWAYS SEEN THE DOOR LOCKED.
UM, BUT NO, FOR A, JUST A REGULAR ONE HOUSE IS OUT OF POWER.
WE WOULDN'T DECLARE THAT AN EMERGENCY, WE WOULDN'T ACTIVATE THE EOCS.
THERE WOULDN'T BE STAFF TO GIVE OUT WATER BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO RESPOND.
VO IT, I'M, I'M NOT CLEAR THAT I ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED THOUGH.
DID I ANSWER THE QUESTION I WAS ASKED THAT? NOT REALLY.
WELL, I GUESS YOU SAID, YOU SAID IT HAS TO BE TO A CERTAIN LEVEL WHERE WE, WHERE WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO ANNOUNCE IT.
UM, SO THE FIRE DISPLACING 60 HOMES, YOU KNOW, THAT ROSE TO THE LEVEL THAT THE CITY, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD HAVE RESPONDED.
UH, I ACTIVATED THE OC WE HAD STAFF AT DESIGNATED CENTERS.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE YOU ASKING WHY THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING'S NOT JUST GENERALLY USED LIKE THIS? OR IF IT'S WHY WAS IT NOT DESIGNATED AND STAFFED WITH PARK STAFF ON THIS ONE EVENT? WELL, YEAH.
DURING, DURING THE FIRE EVACUATIONS.
SO DURING THE FIRE EVACUATION, WHY WAS THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING NOT STAFFED WITH PARK STAFF OR CITY HALL OPENED UP? UH, WE COULD HAVE USED EITHER.
THE LIBRARY WAS IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE.
THE KRUG CENTER WAS, I WAS TOLD, BE ABLE TO BE MADE AVAILABLE QUICKLY AND WAS COMPLETELY EMPTY.
SO WE COULD JUST FILL THAT UP TO THE RAFTERS AND NOT DISRUPT ANYONE'S WORK.
UM, THOSE WERE THE REASON I PICKED THOSE TWO.
THE COUNTY CONTACTED ME AND SAID THAT FIRST BAPTIST WAS OFFERING TO OPEN THEIR DOORS THAT WAS OF THEIR OWN VOLITION.
I DIDN'T ASK THEM AND SAID, OKAY, WE'LL ADD THEM TO THE LIST.
WE'LL PROVIDE STAFF, WE'LL PROVIDE WATER OR RATHER H E B PROVIDED WATER, BUT WE'LL DELIVER IT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S SERVICED.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF COUNCIL MEMBER
AND WHEN WE HAVE THIS JOINT, UH, TRAINING EXERCISE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING, UH, IN THE E O C AND WALK THROUGH THAT, THIS DRAFT SHELTER MANAGEMENT PLAN, I THINK IS WHAT YOU'VE CALLED IT, UH, WE COULD IDENTIFY THOSE PLACES THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE AS A COOLING CENTER ALSO, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT A WARMING CENTER MM-HMM.
BUT AT SOME POINT THERE'LL BE, WE WILL BE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS OF WHEN DO WE NEED TO OPEN WARMING CENTERS AND WHERE DO WE WANT THOSE TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY? AND SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN A POLICY THAT'S CLEAR FOR, UH, THE COUNCIL TO KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DIRECTED US TO DO AND THAT WE HAVE A PLAN FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH.
UM, SO WE ALL HAVE A, A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THIS WOULD BE.
SO I THINK WE COULD DELINEATE THAT AT THAT TIME WHEN WE HAVE THAT TRAINING, GO THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION AND TALK ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF EVENTS WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE AND WHEN WE WOULD WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT.
AND, AND PART OF THAT IS WHEN I SAW THE IMAGES, THE IMAGINATION I HAD WAS 60, 70 HOMES ON FIRE IN THE, IN THE AZTEC VILLAGE.
AND RESIDENTS LOSING EVERYTHING, LEAVING WITH ONLY THEIR CLOTHES ON THEIR BACK.
SO I'M THINKING, UM, THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
SO ABSOLUTELY ALL HANDS ON DECK RIGHT NOW.
SO FOR THAT, YOUR HOME, YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO IT.
WE GO TO FULL TRUE SHELTER OPERATIONS.
WE HAVE COTS SET UP IN A GYMNASIUM FOR PEOPLE TO SLEEP IN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GO HOME.
THAT'S, THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OPERATION THAN JUST A COOLING CENTER.
UH, IT'S MUCH BRIGHTER, UH, GRANDER IN SCALE.
WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE CERTAIN HERE PARKS WOULD BE, AND TO MARIANA'S CREDIT, AS SOON AS I CALLED, EVEN FOR THE COOLING CENTERS WITH THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE GO TO OVERNIGHT OPERATIONS, SHE SENT STAFF HOME TO SLEEP TO GET READY TO WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO SERVICE THE SHELTER.
LUCKILY WE DIDN'T NEED THOSE SHELTERS, BUT WE WERE PREPARED TO JUMP IN AND DO EVERYTHING WE COULD.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST, THANK YOU, SIR.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, YOU ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS IN YOUR PRESENTATION
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ALONE.I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, BEING PROACTIVE ON A SEVERAL THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA DISCUSS AND, AND POINT ON.
AND I THINK MOVING FORWARD, THIS WAS A GREAT, UH, LEARNING OPPORTUNITY SINCE THERE WERE NO LOSSES OF LIFE OR, OR HOUSING.
SO I THINK AS, AS LONG AS WE TAKE IT AS THAT AND WE MOVE FORWARD, I THINK, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE OKAY.
DID WE EVER FIND THE CAUSE OF THE FIRES? WAS IT AMBER'S OR THE ORIGIN WAS DETERMINED TO BE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD DUE TO THE AIRDROPS? NO EVIDENCE REMAINED AT THE SITE ACCORDING TO THE FIRE MARSHAL.
SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN JUST SOMEBODY IDLING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THEY'RE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, UNDERNEATH THE CAR?
THE, THE CONVERTER WAS HOT ENOUGH TO TOUCH OFF THE GRASS.
COULD HAVE BEEN CIGARETTES TOSSED OUT THE WINDOW, COULD HAVE BEEN ANYTHING.
THEY JUST KNOW IT WAS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
BUT YEAH, WITH THIS CONDITIONS, IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH ONE CIGARETTE OUT INTO SOME DRY GRASS WITH IT THAT KIND OF WIND.
ANYTHING ELSE? MOTION TO ADJOURN.