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TODAY IS TUESDAY, JANUARY 9TH, AND THE TIME IS 6:31 PM AND I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER.MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DELORE HERE.
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NUMBER THREE MINUTES.ITEM THREE, A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING.
MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 12TH, 2023.
WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THOSE WITH A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JAMES AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STEGEL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CITIZEN COMMENTS.
ITEM FOUR, A CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF REGULAR MEETINGS.
SPEAKERS ARE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS, AND THEY MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN CITIZEN COMMENTS.
[5. Consent]
FIVE, CONSENT ITEM FIVE A, THE CROSSMAN SUBDIVISION, PHASE SIX B AND ITEM FIVE B FOR CENTER.81 PEC SUBDIVISION LOT TWO BLOCK A.
AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. MADAM CHAIR.
MOTION NOW CONSENT TO, UH, ITEM FIVE A ONLY FIVE A, OR BOTH FIVE A AND FIVE B.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM VICE CHAIR DELORE AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER STEGEL TO, UH, APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
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Consider and make a recommendation to City Council regarding a request by Todd Leverett of Mayse & Associates for a conditional height exception pursuant to Sec. 53-1047(12) & Sec. 53-1048 of the City of Kyle Code of Ordinances for property located at 22497 IH-35 in Hays County, Texas (Country Inn Suites - CUP-23-0093).
- Public Hearing
CONSIDER AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST BY TODD LEVERETT OF MAYS AND ASSOCIATES FOR A CONDITIONAL HEIGHT EXCEPTION PURSUANT TO SECTION 53 DASH 10 47 12 AND SECTION 53 DASH 10 48 OF THE CITY OF KYLE.
CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 2 4 9 7 IH 35 IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS COUNTRY IN SUITES CUP DASH 23 DASH 0 0 9 3.
THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT NOW AT 6:34 PM I SHALL CLOSE IT NOW AT 6:34 PM DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM? YES.
SO THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A HEIGHT VARIANCE, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT Y'ALL HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST.
UM, SO THIS IS A PROPERTY LOCATED, UM, A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD.
UM, IF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH, UM, WHERE THE SEVEN 11 AND STARBUCKS ARE ACROSS FROM, UM, AT CENTER STREET AND I 35, IT'S OVER IN THAT AREA.
UM, THE ZONING IS RETAIL SERVICES AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED PER THE ZONING IS 45 FEET.
THIS REQUEST WOULD ALLOW THEM TO BUILD UP TO 58 IN HEIGHT, AND IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE I 35 OVERLAY.
SO PER SECTION, UH, 53 DASH 10 47 12, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS ALLOWED TO BE GRANTED TO AUTHORIZE AND EXCEPTION TO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT UP TO 150 FEET.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 58 FEET.
THIS WILL ACCOMMODATE A FOUR STORY, UH, MINIMUM 87 GUEST ROOM HOTEL.
SO HERE IS KIND OF THE SITE PLAN, AND THEN THIS JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA FOR, UM, WHAT THE HEIGHT WILL BE AND, UM, KIND OF SOME OF THE, UM, DETAILS GOING ALONG WITH THAT.
AND THEN THE SIDE AND THEN THIS, UM, THIS IS JUST A CONTOUR MAP TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE IN HEIGHT FROM, UM, THE STREET AND THEN THE ACTUAL SITE.
IT'S ONLY ABOUT A TWO FOOT DIFFERENCE.
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BUT THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, UM, KIND OF GOOGLE STREET VIEW FROM I 35, THERE'S DEFINITELY A SLOPE DOWNWARD TO THE SITE.SO WHILE THEY'RE REQUESTING 58 FEET, WHICH MIGHT SOUND LIKE A LOT, IT'S NOT FROM I 35, IT'S NOT GONNA SEEM LIKE IT'S THAT MUCH HIGHER THAN, UM, WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE ALLOWED PER THE, PER THE ZONING.
SO STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS REQUEST IS REASONABLE AND ALLOWED PURSUANT TO SECTION 53 DASH 10 47, SUBSECTION 12, AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN ALSO JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK ON JANUARY 16TH.
AND THEN, UM, DEPENDENT UPON THEIR VOTE, UM, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE I 35 OVERLAY FOR THE MATERIALS WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD AT A LATER DATE.
SO THIS REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HEIGHT, AND THEN WITH THE I 35 OVERLAY, THE MATERIALS WILL COME BACK LATER.
SO ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, UH, LETTER FROM THE ASSOCIATES HERE, MAS AND ASSOCIATES.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS THEY SAID THAT THEY WANTED THE HEIGHT VARIANCE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IN GROUND FLOOR LEVEL MEETING ROOMS. YES.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.
SO GENERALLY WE DON'T, I, THEY HAVE SHARED THAT WITH US AS WELL, BUT THAT'S GENERALLY NOT SOMETHING WE NECESSARILY CONSIDER WHEN LOOKING AT THESE THINGS.
BUT THEY WILL HAVE SOME TALLER CEILINGS ON THE GROUND FLOOR FOR THE LOBBY, FOR MEETING ROOMS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THINGS THAT ARE PRETTY STANDARD FOR HOTELS.
SO WE'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ITEM WITH A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE PROVIDE ITEM SIX A SECOND.
SO THIS ITEM IS PHRASED AS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.
SO A RECOMMENDATION, THE MOTION IS TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE.
CAN I REPHRASE HIS MOTION THAT WAY, OR DOES HE HAVE TO REPHRASE HIS OWN MOTION? YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT WORKS.
IT'S A, THERE MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND NO APPROVE.
UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM SIX A FROM COMMISSIONER JAMES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SERATO.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION BEFORE WE VOTE? MADAM CHAIR? YES.
UH, I THINK, UH, I AGREE WITH, UH, UH, THE PLANNING STAFF.
I'D BE LESS INCLINED TO THINK AT A REASONABLE REQUEST IF IT WAS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE, UH, TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
AND SO FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, UM, I WOULDN'T BE SO INCLINED, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE I AM.
UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER DEJO THAT, UH, PARTICULARLY BEING ON A SLOPE, THAT THAT DOES ACCOUNT FOR THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE.
I WOULD ADD THOUGH THAT, UH, FOR OUR THOUGHT THAT THIS IS, UH, WILL BE, WOULD BE THE NEAREST ACCOMMODATIONS, PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS TO DOWN NEAR DOWNTOWN.
AND IF WE HAVE ANY, UH, INTENTION REALLY OF CARRYING THROUGH WITH THE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT, IT MIGHT BE QUITE THE THING TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO US.
I WOULD FURTHER NOTE THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT, UM, MEETING ROOMS IS THAT I THINK THAT THERE ARE A FEW MEETING ROOMS, PUBLIC MEETING ROOMS IN THE CITY, AND THAT THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD LOCATION TO HAVE AVAILABLE MEETING ROOMS FOR PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, UH, PURPOSES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHTY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
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TONIGHT IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM, SO I'LL OPEN THAT NOW AT 6:40 PM AND IT WILL BE CLOSED NOW.
IT'S 6:40 PM UM, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE ITEM? UH, YES.
JASON LUTZ, UH, SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, SO WE'RE CULMINATING IN THE, THE END OF A TWO YEAR PROCESS HERE TONIGHT.
UH, THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON A COMPREHENSIVE
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PLAN.UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, MARSHALL HINES.
HE WILL BE LEADING THIS PRESENTATION, UH, ON OUR FINAL WRAP UP.
AND THEN WE'LL BE MAKING, YOU'LL BE MAKING YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL ON THE JUNE, JULY, UH, SORRY, JULY, JANUARY 16TH MEETING.
SO, UM, MARSHALL, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND, AND THEN IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, WE CAN ANSWER THAT AFTER THAT.
WELL, I, UM, LIKE TO THINK OF MYSELF AS A WELL PREPARED PERSON, AND I'M REALIZING NOW THAT A FILE I NEED TO OPEN IS NOT, UH, PLAYING NICE WITH ME.
SO BEAR WITH ME HERE FOR JUST A SECOND.
SO, UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO, UM, REALLY TELL EVERYONE HOW EXCITED I AM TO BE HERE.
THIS PROCESS GOT STARTED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MOST OF YOU FOR ALL OF THAT TIME.
UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT I HAVEN'T YET MET, MY NAME IS MARSHALL HINES.
I'M THE CREATIVE DIRECTOR FOR VERITY, WHICH IS A PLANNING AND ENGINEERING FIRM, UH, BASED HERE OUT OF TEXAS THAT THE, UM, CITY CONTRACTED WITH TO HELP GUIDE, UH, THIS PROCESS AND PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO HELP GUIDE THE FUTURE, UM, OF, OF KYLE.
SO WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO TONIGHT IS I JUST, BOTH FOR YOUR OWN SAKE, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND THE PUBLIX, I'M GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH JUST SORT OF A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PLAN ITSELF.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE BITS OF FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT, UM, THROUGH THE FEEDBACK FORM THAT WE PROVIDED BACK, I THINK IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER, AS WELL AS THE WORK SESSION THAT YOU GUYS DID WITH CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF.
AND THEN I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS AT THE END.
SO, UH, WITH NO FURTHER ADO, WE'LL GET STARTED.
THE, UM, THE PLAN ITSELF IS, IT HAS SORT OF THREE BIG INTENTS.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THREE IMPORTANT THINGS WITH THIS ONE DOCUMENT.
THE FIRST IS THAT WE WANT TO EDUCATE AND INFORM THE DOCUMENT WAS VERY INTENTIONALLY WRITTEN AND DESIGNED SO THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE AND READABLE BY MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS.
OF COURSE, THE PRINCIPAL USERS OF THIS DOCUMENT ARE GONNA BE YOURSELVES, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE, THE STAFF.
BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU WANT A COMMUNITY TO HAVE BUY-IN TO A GUIDING DOCUMENT LIKE THIS, THAT THEY CAN FEEL THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE MATERIAL THAT'S IN IT.
AND, AND THUS, UM, THE PLAN AIMS TO INFORM, UH, ON MANY OF THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND LAND USE PLANNING AND THE WAY THAT NEIGHBORHOODS GET BUILT.
UM, UH, AND SO THAT IS THE, THE FIRST OF THE THREE BIG THINGS THAT THE PLAN IS TRYING TO DO.
THE SECOND IS THAT IT IS ATTEMPTING TO COMMUNICATE THE FISCAL REALITIES ON THE GROUND IN KYLE TODAY AS IT PERTAINS TO LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO THE PLAN DISCUSSES HOW, UM, THE ECONOMICS OF LAND USE WORK, AND IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY AND HOW YOU CAN WORK TOWARD A MORE FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE FUTURE.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE PLAN, UH, AIMS TO PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR DECISION MAKING IN THE FUTURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BY TYING YOUR LAND USE DECISIONS TO THE TENANTS OF THE PLAN THAT WE SEE ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UH, THE DOCUMENT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE ACTIONS IN THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER, UM, YOU CAN REALLY BE CHECKING YOURSELF AS YOU MAKE THE KINDS OF DELIBERATIVE DECISIONS THAT COME BEFORE YOU HERE, UM, ABOUT WHETHER THOSE CHOICES ARE, UH, REFLECTING WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND YOURSELVES HAVE ARTICULATED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
SO, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF OF THE PLAN.
IT'S BROKEN UP INTO ONLY FOUR CHAPTERS.
UM, THE FIRST CHAPTER IS THE INTRODUCTION, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S REALLY GONNA GET HEAVILY AT THE EDUCATIONAL UNDERPINNING FOR MANY OF THE CONCEPTS THAT ARE GOING TO RUN THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, REALLY SETS THE STAGE FOR THE REST OF THE MATERIAL.
THE SECOND CHAPTER IS CALLED LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS.
AND THIS INCLUDES BOTH THE LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE EARLY IN THIS PROCESS, BUT IT ALSO, UM, PROVIDES SOME BACKGROUND MATERIAL ON THE THINGS THAT CAN AFFECT HOW A FISCAL ANALYSIS OF A COMMUNITY TURNS OUT.
SO IT, IT DOES A LITTLE BIT OF THAT EDUCATING AS WELL.
CHAPTER THREE IS THE MAJOR COMPONENTS CHAPTER, AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO THE REAL HEART OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE IN THE CATEGORIES OF LAND USE AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WE LOOK AT MANY OF THE CONCEPTS AND STRATEGIES THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED TO GET KYLE TO A STRONGER AND MORE RESILIENT FUTURE.
AND THEN THE FINAL CHAPTER IS THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER.
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AND THAT TAKES ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLAN, AND IT BREAKS THEM DOWN INTO A SERIES OF VERY ACTIONABLE STEPS.UH, THE RELEVANT PLAYERS INSIDE THE CITY GOVERNMENT ARE IDENTIFIED AS WELL AS RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT CAN ALSO TAKE PART, TAKE PART IN THAT IMPLEMENTATION, UH, WHICH WE BELIEVE TO BE VERY, A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS GOING FORWARD.
SO I WANNA TAKE YOU THROUGH JUST SOME HIGH LEVEL TOPICS THAT ARE COVERED THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.
WE'LL GO THROUGH IT IN IN ORDER.
UH, THE INTRODUCTION IS FOCUSED ON THAT IN EDUCATING AND INFORMING, UM, UH, KYLE'S DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OVER TIME IS ADDRESSED HERE IN THIS CHAPTER.
AND WE EXPLORE, UM, HOW THE MASSIVE EXPANSION THAT YOU'VE HAD HAS AFFECTED THE FISCAL BOTTOM LINE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY'S HISTORY.
THE CHAPTER ALSO EXPLAINS HOW FACTORS, SUCH AS, UM, THINGS LIKE LOT COVERAGE AND BUILDING HEIGHT AFFECT HOW MUCH VALUE IS CREATED IN THE CITY.
BUT IT ALSO PAIRS THAT WITH DISCUSSION OF THE CHARACTER AND INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
UM, CHARACTER AND INTENSITY WERE THINGS THAT WERE OF PRINCIPLE CONCERN TO A LOT OF, UH, THE PUBLIC AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.
WE ALSO, UH, SET UP AND EXPLAIN HOW THE ENGAGEMENT, UH, WORK THAT WAS DONE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS REALLY TIES INTO THE DOCUMENT.
WE WANT THE PLAN TO TIE VERY DIRECTLY TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM YOURSELVES, UH, COUNCIL STAFF AND THE, THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE WANNA MAKE CLEAR HOW THAT TIES INTO THE DOCUMENTS.
MOVING INTO CHAPTER TWO, WHICH IS THE, UH, UH, LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS CHAPTER.
UM, THE LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS TAKES A REALLY HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE FINANCIAL SITUATION AS IT IN KYLE AS IT PERTAINS TO LAND USE.
WE LOOK AT A BUDGET BREAKDOWN AND WHAT THE CITY IS SPENDING TO MAINTAIN ITS ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE TODAY.
UH, YOU ALL WILL, WILL REMEMBER THIS FROM ONE OF OUR VERY FIRST MEETINGS, THAT MUCH OF WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT IF THE CITY IS REALLY TRYING TO SET ASIDE ENOUGH MONEY TO ENSURE THAT THERE, THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO REBUILD ROADS WHEN THAT'S NECESSARY, UH, THAT IS NOT BEING ACHIEVED RIGHT NOW.
AND IF THAT CONTINUES, THEN THAT ULTIMATELY CAN CAUSE SIGNIFICANT, UH, FISCAL PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.
THE PLAN ALSO IDENTIFIES A SERIES OF REVENUE PER ACRE GOALS, UH, FOR DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT THE CITY IS ADEQUATELY FUNDING, UH, HAS THE FUNDS TO ADEQUATELY FUND STREETS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE.
UH, AND REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANTLY, THE PLAN SHOWS WHAT A MORE FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN LOOKS LIKE.
AND, AND THE TRUTH IS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A REALLY NICE PLACE TO LIVE.
UM, IN BOTH THE INFILL AND GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, THE KINDS OF PLACES THAT ARE FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE TEND TO PROVIDE MORE DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS AND MORE DIVERSE PRICE POINTS.
UH, THEY ALSO CAN PROVIDE MUCH MORE OPEN SPACE, UM, THROUGH THOUGHTFUL CONSERVATION OF NATURAL AREAS.
AND THEY MIX NEIGHBORHOODS SCALED SERVICES INTO DEVELOPMENT IN A WAY THAT ACTUALLY CAN REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING PUT ONTO YOUR ARTERIAL ROADWAY SYSTEM.
UH, IN CHAPTER THREE, WHICH, UH, ARE THE MAJOR COMPONENTS IN THE LAND USE COMPONENT, UM, WE LOOK AT THE LOGICAL PLACES FOR GROWTH BY ASSESSING WHERE THERE IS CURRENTLY VACANT LAND AND WHERE THAT INTERSECTS WITH LAND THAT ALREADY HAS INFRASTRUCTURE RUNNING TO IT SO THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT CAN BE FOCUSED WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE MADE INVESTMENTS IN THE GROUND.
BUT IT, IT DOES ALSO ACCEPT THAT THERE ARE CAPACITY CHALLENGES THAT YOUR STAFF IS WORKING THROUGH.
AND SO IT IDENTIFIES AREAS, UH, WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO NEED ATTENTION TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE KIND OF GROWTH THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING.
CHAPTER THREE INTRODUCES AND EXPLAINS THE MODERN TOOL FOR LAND USE PLANNING, WHICH ARE PLACE TYPES AND THESE SUPPLANT WHAT ARE GENERALLY LAND USE, UH, EXCUSE ME, UH, USE BASED LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, AND THEY ALLOW FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY ACROSS THE CITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FO GOING TO FOCUS PRIMARILY ON THE CHARACTER OF EACH PLACE.
SO THE PLAN AIMS TO ILLUSTRATE BOTH INWARDS ON EACH ONE OF THESE PAGES AND IN IMAGES HOW THESE PLACE TYPES COULD AND SHOULD FEEL.
AND VERY IMPORTANTLY, THE PLAN TIES THESE PLACE TYPES TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT BY INDICATING THE BUILDING TYPOLOGIES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE IN EACH ONE OF THESE PLACE TYPES.
THERE ARE A SERIES OF GROWTH SECTORS WHICH ARE INTRODUCED, UH, AND THESE ARE BASED SIGNIFICANTLY ON YOUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD OUT TO HELP FOCUS WHEN POSSIBLE WHERE NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE GOING, UM, BEFORE YOU START INSTALLING NEW LINES OUT TO THE FARTHEST REACHES OF THE ETJ.
AND AS CHAPTER THREE MOVES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS COMPONENT, UM, THE LEVELS OF INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE MIS MIXING OF HOUSING TYPOLOGIES IS ALSO DISCUSSED
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AS WELL AS THE BENEFICIAL IMPLICATIONS OF THIS, RIGHT, WHICH IS OF COURSE, STUFF LIKE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.YOU ALL, UH, MAY REMEMBER THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD, UM, WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THOSE VARYING LEVELS OF HOUSING INTENSITY, UM, AND WHERE THE BREAK POINTS WERE FOR HOW THAT FELT APPROPRIATE TO YOU WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE.
UM, AND, AND SO THIS PART OF THE, OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS CHAPTER REALLY ATTEMPTS TO SYNTHESIZE AND REPRESENT HOW EXISTING COMMUNITIES CAN FLEX AND BE AND IMPROVE OVER TIME, BUT ALSO VERY IMPORTANTLY, TO PRESENT A BETTER PARADIGM FOR NEW NEIGHBORHOODS AS YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT COMING TO YOU IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN, UM, WE SPEND TIME TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT MAKE UP, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SORT OF, OF, UM, LAID OUT ALONG A PEDESTRIAN TO AUTO ORIENTED CONTINUUM.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE PRESENTED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE PLANS FOR NEW NEIGHBORHOODS.
YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IT OUGHT TO BE, OUGHT TO TO BE A RURAL NEIGHBORHOOD, A TRANSITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, OR MORE COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND WHEN YOU USE THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHEN YOU CHECK, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETHING COMING BEFORE YOU AGAINST THESE DESIGN GUIDELINES, YOU CAN SAY, WELL, WE BELIEVE THE INTENT IS THAT IT IS TO BE, FOR EXAMPLE, A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
DOES THIS, UH, PROPOSAL REALLY SHOW ALL OF THESE, OR AT LEAST MANY OF THESE ELEMENTS THAT MAKE UP A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD OR DOES IT TREND SOMEWHERE ELSE? SO IT CAN HELP ALIGNMENT IN THAT AS YOU PROGRESS FORWARD.
AND THEN THE DOCUMENT WRAPS UP WITH CHAPTER FOUR, WHICH IS THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY.
AND THAT IS REALLY DESIGNED AROUND MAKING MEANINGFUL CHANGE THROUGH MANY SMALL ACTIONS AS OPPOSED TO BIG MONUMENTAL PROJECTS.
UM, THE, THE KEY DECISION MAKING PRINCIPLES, WHICH WERE IDENTIFIED VERY EARLY IN THIS, UH, PROCESS, UH, THROUGH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT WE DID JUST ACROSS THE STREET AS A MATTER OF FACT, UM, IS PRESENTED IN THIS CHAPTER AS WELL AS A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN KIND OF ASK YOURSELF AS YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH DECISIONS THAT THIS BODY HAS TO MAKE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT HAS BEEN ARTICULATED, AS I SAID EARLIER, BY YOURSELVES THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY FOR WHAT, UM, HOW THEY WANT THEIR LEADERS TO BE MAKING DECISIONS.
AND THEN, UM, THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLAN ARE ALL BROUGHT TOGETHER AND SORTED BY THEIR MAJOR COMPONENTS.
AND THEN A SERIES OF GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL CHAPTER AS WELL.
WHAT'S REALLY KEY HERE AS YOU BEGIN IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN IS THAT YOU CAN USE THE SMALLER ACTIONS WHICH ARE UNDERNEATH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO REALLY MAKE THAT MEANINGFUL PROGRESS.
UM, THE PAGES ARE SORTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE YOU NEED TO GET STARTED ON A TASK.
SO EACH RECOMMENDATION, AS I SAID, IS BROKEN UP INTO THOSE SMALLER PARTS.
THE TYPE OF ACTION BEING RECOMMENDED IS IDENTIFIED.
YOU ALL PLAYED A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PART IN THIS, AS A MATTER OF FACT, BECAUSE THE, UM, ACTIVITY THAT WE DID BACK IN JULY WAS REALLY ABOUT PRIORITIZING INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS AND GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF YOURS.
AND THE COUNCIL'S IDEAS ABOUT HOW THEY WANTED TO FOCUS THEIR ENERGIES FOR, UM, PARTICULAR ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN AFTER THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED.
MANY OF THE ACTIONS AND A WHOLE LOT OF THE PHASING WAS DIRECTLY INFLUENCED BY THAT WORKSHOP.
YOU KNOW, HOW EACH INDIVIDUAL ACTION IS TIED TO THE VALUES AND ASPIRATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS PLANNING PROCESS ARE IN THERE, UH, WHEN THEY SHOULD HAPPEN.
SO YOU'VE GOT TIMING PHASING INCLUDED, UM, THE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT SHOULD PLUG IN TO EACH ACTION BECAUSE NOT EVERY CITY DEPARTMENT HAS TO GET INVOLVED IN EVERY ACTION, WHICH DELIBERATIVE BODIES LIKE YOURSELF AND OTHER CITY ENTITIES WOULD BE INVOLVED.
AND REALLY CRUCIALLY HOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN PLUG INTO ACTIONS.
WE CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT INVOLVING THE PUBLIC IN THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES GIVES A REAL SENSE OF OWNERSHIP OF THESE ACTIVITIES TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO HAVING A, A CLEAR FRAMEWORK WHERE YOU CAN SAY, HERE IS HOW THE PUBLIC COULD HELP WITH REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR ACTION IS VERY POWERFUL.
SO EACH OF THOSE ARE INCLUDED AS WELL.
SO THAT'S A, A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PLAN.
UM, I DON'T WANNA RUSH ANYBODY.
UM, I CAN PAUSE ANYTIME YOU WANT ME TO.
THE NEXT THING THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS THE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT, AND I WAS JUST GONNA TALK THROUGH HOW WE APPROACHED THAT AS WE WERE UPDATING THE PLAN.
UM, IS IT ALRIGHT WITH YOU GUYS IF I HEAD ONTO THAT? OKAY, GREAT.
SO, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT WERE FROM CHAPTERS TWO AND THREE.
WE ABSOLUTELY DID GET A FEW FROM CHAPTERS ONE AND FOUR, BUT MOST OF, MOST OF THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WE JUST FELT COULD BE, UM, ADDED TO THE PLAN AS IS.
THEY DIDN'T REQUIRE A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
UM, I'M, I, I'M NOT, UH, I'M NOT ONE GENERALLY FOR HYPERBOLE, BUT I REALLY HAVE TO SAY THAT ALMOST EVERY BIT OF FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WAS REALLY MEANINGFUL AND REALLY GOOD.
AND MOST OF IT WE JUST INTEGRATED INTO THE PLAN AS IT CAME TO US, WHICH IS NOT OFTEN THE CASE.
THERE WERE A FEW THINGS WE WE WANT TO CHAT WITH YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, BUT ANYWAY, KUDOS TO YOU GUYS AND THE COUNCIL AND STAFF.
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DID WE HEAR IN CHAPTER TWO? WELL, THE FIRST THING, UH, AND THIS I BELIEVE CAME FROM THE, UH, WORK SESSION.THERE WAS THIS QUESTION ABOUT DOES THE PLAN DESIGNATE GREEN SPACE IN THE COMMUNITY? WHAT THE COMP PLAN DOES IS IT TAKES A WHOLE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO GREEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE PLAN.
WE FOCUS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF OPEN SPACES, UM, AND WE TRY TO INFUSE THAT THROUGH EVERY CHAPTER OF THE DOCUMENT.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT SPEAKS TO HOW YOU PRESERVE LAND OVERALL, BUT IDENTIFYING SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THAT ARE PERHAPS UNDEVELOPABLE FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A CODE AMENDMENT.
AND, AND WE BELIEVE, WE'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT THERE IS, UH, A PROCESS EITHER BEGINNING OR TO COME SOON, THAT THERE'S A, A PARKS PLAN UPDATE THAT IS ON THE BOOK, SO TO SPEAK.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE PLACE WHERE, UH, SPECIFIC DESIGNATIONS LIKE THAT WOULD BE, UM, UH, MORE APPROPRIATE.
SECOND ITEM IS, UH, WE WERE ASKED IS THERE A TRADE OFF? LIKE DO WE GIVE MORE DENSITY FOR GREEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, ON A ONE-TO-ONE BASIS, EFFECTIVELY THE SAME ANSWER AS BEFORE, BUT, UM, YOU DON'T PUT THAT IN A COMP PLAN, BUT YOU DO DO IT IN A CODE UPDATE.
SO YOU APPROACH THOSE THINGS ON A, ON A CODE LEVEL.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE THAT YOU WOULD SORT OF FOCUS ON THAT.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE FISCAL ANALYSIS AND DIFFERENCES IN WHAT IS ON THE GROUND TODAY AND, UH, WHERE WE WERE WHEN THE, UH, FISCAL ANALYSIS WAS DONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PLAN.
IT'S BOTH FACTUALLY TRUE AND CORRECT TO, TO HAVE IT IN THE DOCUMENT AS IT WAS.
UM, UH, AS THE ASSESSMENT WAS DONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, THAT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE EFFECTIVELY A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.
IT BASICALLY GIVES YOU A BASELINE ON WHERE THE COMMUNITY WAS BEFORE YOU, UH, ADOPTED THIS PLAN AND BEGAN IMPLEMENTING THE PLAN.
AND ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER IS TO COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER FISCAL ANALYSIS IN REASONABLE INTERVALS.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THEM YEARLY, BUT IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO DO IT ON A THREE TO FIVE YEAR BASIS.
AND WHAT YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND COMPARE THEM.
UH, YOU GET A LOT OF MEANINGFUL INFORMATION OUT OF THE COMPARISON.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IN THE DOCUMENT IS THAT SNAPSHOT OF THE CITY AS IT WAS WHEN THE ASSESSMENT WAS RUN.
UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CREATED FROM INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE MADE CLEAR THAT IT REALLY IS POSSIBLE TO PARK AN INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
YOU'LL SEE THAT ON PAGE 57, UH, 57 OF THE DOCUMENT.
BUT TRAFFIC REDUCTION REALLY COMES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ITSELF.
WHEN YOU PUT PEOPLE CLOSER TO THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO, THEY USE THEIR AUTOMOBILES LESS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMES OVER TIME.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HIGHER INTENSITY IN A VACUUM IS NOT WHAT THIS PLAN IS LOOKING FOR.
IT'S LOOKING FOR SEAMLESSLY, UM, ADAPTING THE COMMUNITY OVER TIME.
AND SO TRAFFIC CONCERNS ARE ALLEVIATED BY ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO MORE CLOSELY AT HAND.
AND THEN IN CHAPTER THREE, UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN BOUNDARIES.
IT SEEMED AS THOUGH BASICALLY THE CONCERN WAS, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THE DOWNTOWN BOUNDARIES BEING IDENTIFIED AND ARE THEY A PART OF THIS PLAN? THE DOWNTOWN BOUNDARIES AS DETERMINED BY THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, ARE NOT AFFECTED BY THIS PLAN.
WE DON'T EVEN TOUCH ON THAT IN THE DOCUMENT.
IT'S NOT INTENDED TO OVERRIDE OR SUPPLANT THE BOUNDARIES THAT, UM, HAVE MUCH OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH DOWNTOWN.
IN THIS PLAN ARE THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE TYPE, WHICH MUCH OF, UH, DOWNTOWN IS TAGGED AS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE INFILL AND ENHANCED GROWTH SECTOR.
BOTH OF THESE ARE GETTING AT DIFFERENT THINGS, RIGHT? THE, THE, THE DOWNTOWN BOUNDARY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE DOWNTOWN PLAN IS ABOUT CHARACTER OF DOWNTOWN, ET CETERA, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
UH, HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE INFILL AND ENHANCE, UH, GROWTH SECTOR.
IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT'S ALREADY ON THE GROUND AND RESPECTING AND MAINTAINING THAT IN THE FUTURE.
THERE WAS A, A QUESTION ABOUT SCHOOLS AND WHERE THEY DEVELOP.
UM, I THINK THAT THE SUPPOSITION WAS THAT, WELL, THE DISTRICT HAS DECIDED WE'RE DOING ALL OF THESE SCHOOLS OUT ON THE FRINGE.
UM, AND SO HOW IS THAT GONNA PLAY INTO A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT MIGHT CHANGE ALONG WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THE BASIC ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT SCHOOLS BUILD, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS BUILD SCHOOLS WHERE PEOPLE ARE, IF YOU CONTINUE TO BUILD IN A SUBURBAN PATTERN THAT SPRAWLS OUTWARD, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO GET, UH, SCHOOLS THAT ARE REFLECTIVE OF THAT PATTERN.
THE SCHOOLS HAVE LOTS OF VERY TALENTED DEMOGRAPHIC, UH, FOLKS ON STAFF WHO WILL UPDATE THOSE PLANS AND THE PLAN.
UH, WE EVEN HAD A COUPLE OF INTERVIEWS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS AT THE EARLY PART OF THIS, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS.
SO THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THIS, UH, PLAN AS WELL.
AND THEN LASTLY, THERE WAS CONCERN THAT PERHAPS THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN IS NOT REALLY ACCOMMODATING FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSE.
UM, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DISPEL THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE WITH THIS PLAN AT
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ALL.UM, IF YOU JUST THINK ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE TYPE AND THE RURAL PLACE TYPE, UM, BOTH OF WHICH WOULD PROVIDE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, THOSE MAKE UP SOMETHING LIKE 90% OF THE LAND AREA ON YOUR, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, SO WE ARE NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYBODY IN A POSITION WHERE IF YOU WANT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE.
WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO ALLOW FOR OTHER HOUSING TYPOLOGIES TO BE INTRODUCED TO THESE AREAS WHERE, UH, HISTORICALLY YOU WOULD'VE ONLY ALLOWED SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSES.
SO THAT IS REALLY THE CRUX OF THE PLAN, NOT TO, NOT TO DISALLOW A PARTICULAR HOUSING TYPE.
SO, UH, THAT COVERS ANYTHING THAT I DIDN'T COVER HERE EFFECTIVELY JUST GOT UPDATED IN THE DOCUMENT AS WE RECEIVED THE FEEDBACK.
SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS.
I'M VERY, UH, WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, CLARIFY, UM, BUT I'M HERE AT YOUR DISPOSAL.
SO, AND AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.
UM, I GUESS AT THIS TIME WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE FLOOR IF, IF YOU WANNA GO.
WAIT, YOU WANNA TALK? YES, MR. MR. STEVE.
I WAS GONNA FILL THE VOID AS I MIGHT
UM, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, OF COURSE, I, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR AN AWFULLY LONG TIME AND, AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE DOCUMENTS AGAIN, I FOUND THAT I WAS FAIRLY WELL SATISFIED WITH WHAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, PER SE FOR YOU, BUT I, I'M GLAD WE HAVE COME TO THIS POINT, RIGHT? AND, UM, I'M GLAD THAT, UM, WE NOW ARE GOING TO BE FACED WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF IMPLEMENTATION ONCE THIS IS APPROVED AND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL SAY HERE AT THIS POINT, UM, IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO ME AS A CITIZEN, AS A MEMBER OF P AND Z BECAUSE IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF COLLABORATION AND PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING AND THE COUNCIL TO BEGIN TO PUT THIS INTO ACTION.
AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK AND EFFORT AND PAYING ATTENTION IN A PARTICULAR WAY, MAKING REFERENCE TO THIS DOCUMENT WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE CODE, FOR INSTANCE.
I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THAT PROCESS SO THAT WE REALLY CAN BEGIN TO MAKE CHANGE HERE.
WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, IT WAS, I HAD THE SENSE IT WAS ALREADY GETTING AHEAD OF US WITH WHAT I KNEW CLEARLY.
UM, THE DEVELOPERS ARE ALWAYS A STEP AHEAD OF US AND IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE PHYSICAL WORLD, AND THEN HOW WE LIVE IN THIS SPACE IS REALLY BEST TO GET ON WITH THIS QUICKLY AND REALLY COLLABORATE QUITE CLEARLY WITH EACH OTHER.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST OFFER THAT IN THE VOID HERE FOR A MOMENT.
UM, I WANNA START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU TO, UH, MR. HINES AND THE VIRGINITY TEAM.
UM, I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB BY CHOOSING AN EXCELLENT TEAM TO HELP GUIDE US THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND I WAS HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE THROUGH IT.
I FELT LIKE, UH, MY VOICE AND VOICE OF, UH, UH, PLANNING ITS ZONING COMMISSION WAS HEARD THROUGHOUT AND, UH, AND I THANK YOU FOR ASKING US TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND, UH, AND OTHER SESSIONS THAT, THAT YOU HAD GOING.
UM, I'M GONNA ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, MY, UH, ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE HERE.
I THINK THAT, UH, THIS IS WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL THE KICKOFF FOR THE REAL PROJECT, AND THAT IS, UM, HELPING TO SHAPE OUR CITY FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE UP TO THE TASK, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
I SAW THAT WE HAD TRACY IN, OR COMMISSIONER SHEILA IN THE MEETING, SO IF SHE WANTS TO SPEAK, I WANNA GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, SORRY I COULDN'T BE HERE THERE,
UM, BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
I KNOW I CAME IN LATE TO THE PROCESS AND, UM, DIDN'T HAVE MUCH INPUT EXCEPT FOR IN THE COMMUNITY SIDE OF THINGS.
BUT THIS WAS A PROJECT STARTED BACK IN 20, UH, 17 OR 2018, REALLY, WHEN WE REALLY WANTED TO GET THIS PROJECT STARTED, AND THEN WE PUT IT, PUT IT ON THE BACK SHELF AND THEN, UM, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, GOT PULLED BACK UP AGAIN.
SO I WANT TO COMMEND EVERYBODY ON THE PNZ COMMISSION WHO HAS WORKED SO HARD TO GET THIS FINALLY GOING AND GETTING IT DONE PROPERLY.
SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU FOR THE TEAM, UM, JUST AS A WHOLE STAFF, UM, PNZ, EVEN COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY
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AS WELL.UM, I WAS VERY, UH, UM, IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY, UH, A LOT OF THE CITIZENS AND WE GOT QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC INPUT AND I WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY, AND I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND NOW WE JUST NEED TO INITIATE IT AND COMPLY WITH IT.
ALL RIGHT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UM, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND GO NEXT.
UM, A QUESTION I GUESS FOR STAFF REAL QUICK.
SO ANY COMMENTS THAT WE GIVE TONIGHT? ARE THEY ABLE TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS STILL TO THE PLAN OR IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT? IT, BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW, UM, LIKE CROSSING THE T'S DOT IN THE, I'S SORT OF THINGS THAT I FOUND WHEN I DID A REREAD OF IT.
AND I CAN LIST THOSE IF IT'S HELPFUL.
BUT IF WE WOULD RATHER JUST BE IGNORANT OF THEM 'CAUSE WE CAN'T FIX THEM, THEN I'LL KEEP THEM TO MYSELF.
UM, WE WON'T FIX THEM BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNSEL.
UM, SO THE DOCUMENT WILL BE PRESENTED TO COUNSEL AS IS, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE CHANGES YOU WANT TO MAKE OR THINGS CALL OUT, PLEASE INCLUDE THOSE IN THOSE MOTIONS.
THEN COUNSEL, WHEN THEY CONSIDER IT, UM, IF IT'S MINOR THINGS, UH, TYPOS, VERBIAGE, UM, THEY CAN APPROVE THOSE.
IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT MAYBE CHANGES THE PLACE TYPOLOGY OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION ON WHETHER THEY COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE.
SO THEY MAY AGREE WITH YOU OR MAY NOT.
SO, UM, THE CHANGES WILL GET MADE AND THEY WILL GET BROUGHT UP TO COUNCIL, BUT NOT IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
IT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED IN THE SAME FORM IT WAS PRESENTED HERE TONIGHT.
UM, SO I GUESS I WOULD GO THROUGH THOSE IN A MOTION.
UM, I WILL SAVE THOSE FOR LATER.
AND THEN I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I WANTED TO RAISE JUST ABOUT CONTENT.
UM, SO OUR DECISION MAKING PRINCIPLE FOR EQUITY AND JUSTICE, THAT'S ON PAGE ONE 18, OR IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PDF, IT'S 1 26.
IT STATES THAT DECISIONS REGARDING TRANSPORTATION, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE MADE WITH EQUITY AND JUSTICE IN MIND.
SO IT'S LOGICAL TO ME THAT A CITY HAS RESPONSIBILITY, ALLOCATING RESOURCES FOR TRANSPORTATION, PARKS, OPEN SPACE.
UM, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY IS MEANT TO ADDRESS EQUITY AND JUSTICE FOR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
SO COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME PLEASE? UM, EQUITY AND JUSTICE IN RETAIL IS A LITTLE BIT DIF DIFFERENT THAN, THAN KIND OF SERVING YOUR, YOUR AVERAGE CITIZEN.
BUT THERE WE DO HAVE TO TREAT ALL BUSINESSES THE SAME.
UM, SO WE CAN'T JUST GO THROUGH AND BE ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS ON, UM, WHAT TYPE OF RESTAURANTS WE WANT IN.
UM, SO WE, WE KNOW KYLE WANTS RESTAURANTS, BUT SAY A PARTICULAR RESTAURANT WERE TO COME IN THAT THAT SOME IN THE CITY WOULD, WOULD NOT WANT TO FREQUENT.
UM, WE CAN'T JUST BAN THOSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THAT TYPE OF RESTAURANT OR THAT TYPE OF BAR.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE DO HAVE TO BE EQUITABLE AND, AND PROVIDE THOSE LANDOWNERS AND HOMEOWNERS THEIR JUSTICE EITHER THROUGH THE DUE PROCESS, THROUGH VARIANCES OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT SPEAKS TO, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
THAT IS NOT WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY.
I HAVE TO
I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE WANNA TAKE A STAB AT PART TWO? DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING? YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THAT.
UM, THE, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF EVERY ONE OF THE DECISION MAKING PRINCIPLES IS TO PROVIDE SORT OF A NEW FRAMING WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING.
UM, I I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SUGGEST THAT IT'S SO GRANULAR AS TO SAY THAT, UM, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS ASSESS INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS THROUGH A MORE CONVOLUTED LENS THAN YOU WOULD OTHERWISE.
BUT WHAT WE DO WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT CREATING AN EQUITABLE AND JUST KYLE AT LARGE, IS THAT, UH, WE SHOULD BE CONSCIOUS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING AND ENDORSING THROUGH OUR APPROVALS OF PARTICULAR, UM, DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.
UM, AND AS WE CONTINUE ON AFTER THIS, THE PLAN IS ADOPTED AND YOU START THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE CODING, UM, UPDATING A CODE OR, OR OTHER, UM, OTHER GUIDING DOCUMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THAT LENS, THE LENS OF ENSURING THAT WE DON'T BUILD UNNECESSARY
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BIAS INTO OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS IS IMPORTANT.SO, UM, I I WONDER IF, JUST FOR MY OWN CLARITY, ARE YOU TAKING ISSUE WITH THE, THE CONCEPT OF APPLYING, UH, THE, THE, UH, A DECISION MAKING PRINCIPLE AROUND EQUITY AND JUSTICE TO DEVELOPMENT OR THE FACT THAT IT'S REFERRING SPECIFICALLY TO RETAIL DEVELOPMENT? UM, I GUESS, SO WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, I, TO ME THAT'S A PRIVATE THING.
UM, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE RESPONSIBILITY OVER ALLOCATING ITS OWN RESOURCES.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT ALLOCATING RESOURCES, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH RETAIL DEVELOPMENT? AND I THOUGHT THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GOING TO HERE TONIGHT WAS GOING TO BE IN REGARDS TO, UM, INCENTIVES AND TAX REBATE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND MY CONCERN AROUND THAT IS, UM, I GUESS I DON'T WANT US TO BE PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS, UM, BASED ON THE PHYSICAL LOCATION OF SOMETHING IN THE CITY.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT MY BRAIN WAS THINKING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM Y'ALL.
SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE THERE.
THESE, THESE WORDS ARE JUST KIND OF WORDS SALAD TO ME.
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION OF EQUITY AND JUSTICE, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS A DECISION MAKING PRINCIPLE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE OR, OR MEAN FOR THE CITY.
I THINK THAT, UH, AT LEAST WITH REGARD TO THE WAY THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN, IT WAS THINKING LARGELY ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND THAT WE MAKE DECISIONS.
I MEAN, LET'S JUST BE VERY FRANK.
I MEAN, IT WAS A VERY COMMON THING THAT WE HEARD FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY FEEL THAT THERE IS OFTEN A DIVIDE IN THE CITY OF KYLE BETWEEN THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF TOWN.
AND SO, UM, WHEN THIS WAS BEING DRAFTED, THERE WAS THOUGHT GOING INTO, IF WE'RE ALLOCATING OUR RESOURCES ALL IN ONE PORT, PART OF THE CITY THAT INHERENTLY IS NOT PROVIDING EQUITY FOR PEOPLE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND SO APPROACHING OUR DECISIONS AND OUR ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES IN A WAY THAT IS SUFFUSE AND PROVIDES, UM, OPPORTUNITIES CITYWIDE, UH, THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE LANGUAGE HERE.
I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT GETTING IT THAT, OR THAT IT'S CONFUSING BECAUSE WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT, UM, KYLE IS A BIG PLACE GEOGRAPHICALLY.
THERE IS A LOT OF LAND AREA OVER WHICH THE CITY OF KYLE HAS SOME JURISDICTIONAL POWER.
AND SO WE SHOULD ALLOCATE OUR RESOURCES.
WE AS THE COMMUNITY OF KYLE, SHOULD ALLOCATE OUR RESOURCES IN A WAY THAT IS EQUITABLE TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
SO I, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION A LITTLE BIT MORE, THOUGH.
AND CHAIRMAN, I THINK YOU'RE ON TRACK WITH, WITH THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, MY RESPONSE WAS BASED KIND OF ON A ZONING LAND USE PERSPECTIVE.
MARSHALLS IS MORE A COMP PLAN, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT NOTWITHSTANDING, UM, INCENTIVES JUST TALKING ABOUT RESOURCES THEMSELVES, SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, DEPENDING ON THEIR TYPE, MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL WATER USAGE OR LUE CAPACITY AT OUR PLANT.
UM, THAT THAT MAY NOT BE, UH, AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE.
SO WE DO NEED TO TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT BIG PUDS OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE ASKS FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, LUS, ARE WE SACRIFICING SOMEONE ELSE'S L LUS TO TO GIVE THEM MORE? ARE WE DOING IT FAIR? IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE GONNA HANDLE IT? CAN WE SPREAD THAT OUT? SO I THINK, I THINK THIS, THIS KEY QUESTION IS, IS GONNA COME UP IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND BEING ADDRESSED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO IF YOU DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON THE LANGUAGE WHERE YOU WANT SOMETHING TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT, PLEASE PUT THAT IN YOUR MOTION.
SO, SO WE CAN WORK WITH VIRGINIA TO ADD THAT.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK I HAVE THE RIGHT WORDS TO, TO CLARIFY IT EITHER, BUT I, I HAD TO ASK.
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T ASK, YOU DON'T LEARN.
UM, MY LAST SUBSTANCE QUESTION IS FROM THE IMPLEMENTATION SECTION.
SO IT'S PAGE ONE 30, OR IF YOU'RE IN THE PDF, IT'S 1 38.
UM, I'M GOING TO JUMP OVER TO THAT MYSELF.
IT SAYS, UM, DEVELOP TRANSPARENT GUIDELINES AND CRITERIA FOR DISTRIBUTING RESOURCES, ENSURING THEY ARE FAIR, IMPARTIAL, AND BASED ON THE NEEDS OF VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS AND PARTS OF KYLE FILE.
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TO ME, THESE ARE THINGS WHERE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE MY INTERPRETATION OF FAIRNESS IS THAT EVERYONE IS GETTING THE SAME SUPPORT FROM, FROM THE CITY, IMPARTIAL, SIMILAR.UM, WELL I'M, I MIGHT CHANGE MY DEFINITION OF FAIR NOW THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING ALL DAY.
MY HEAD IS A TERRIBLE PLACE TO BE IN.
UM, AND THEN BASED ON NEED, SO BASED ON NEED AND IMPARTIAL, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS TOGETHER.
I THINK SOMETHING, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE FAIR, IT COULD BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL OR IT COULD BE FAIR AND BASED ON NEED.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU INTERPRET FAIR.
SO I THINK THAT WHAT I MIGHT RECOMMEND, BUT I WANNA HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.
UM, I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT WE STRIKE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND JUST SAY, BASED ON NEED GIVEN THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IS ABOUT EXERCISING EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES.
UM, BUT THAT MIGHT BE MY MISINTERPRETATION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WELL, LET ME START BY SAYING
I THINK THIS IS THE WAY THAT YOU GET IT THE BEST POSSIBLE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING SET OF QUESTIONS.
SO IF WE POSE IT AS A BIT OF A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT AND WE SAY THAT WE WERE TO STRIKE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND SIMPLY SAY, BASED ON NEEDS, UH, IT IS TRUE THAT WHAT THIS RECOMMENDATION IS DOING IS ASKING YOU TO CREATE A SERIES OF TRANSPARENT GUIDELINES.
THE GUIDELINES THEMSELVES DO NOT COME OUT OF THIS ONE SENTENCE IN THE DOCUMENT.
IT'S SAYING, ONE OF THE TASKS THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERTAKE AS YOU BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLAN IS TO DEVELOP A SERIES OF GUIDELINES THAT WILL, UM, THAT WILL BE TRANSPARENT AND HELP YOU MAKE THESE KINDS OF, UM, UM, RESOURCE ALLOCATION DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST PARTIALLY THE IDEA IS THAT SOME OF THAT NEEDS TO BE FLESHED OUT IN THE LONG RUN.
UM, BUT THINKING ABOUT STRIKING THE WORDS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL, I THINK THE, I I DO NOT MEAN THIS TO BE THAT.
I'M SIMPLY TRYING TO PLAY THE D DEVIL'S ADVOCATE, BUT IF WE JUST KIND OF TAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND, AND THINK ABOUT IT, I WONDER IF THE PROBLEM WITH HAVING SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS AS NEEDS IS THAT IT, IT, IT LEAVES OPEN SUCH OPENNESS FOR INTERPRETATION ABOUT WHAT NEEDS ARE.
LET'S THINK ABOUT A VERY SPECIFIC SMALL EXAMPLE.
YOU GOT TWO NEIGHBORHOODS IN TWO DIFFERENT PARTS OF KYLE, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
AND THEY BOTH HAVE A GAP WHERE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.
WHICH ONE OF THOSE NEEDS THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION MORE THAN THE OTHER? UM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT A GREAT MANY OTHER THINGS.
AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT, UM, SOME OF THAT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, INHERENT FAIRNESS OF A SIDEWALK IN A PLACE THAT MAYBE ONE OF THEM HAS A LOT OF SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY.
AND THIS INHERENTLY MAKES, UH, EXCUSE ME, LET'S SAY THAT ONE OF THEM HAS, HAS SOME SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY IN IT SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO WALK ALONG SIDEWALKS, BUT THIS ONE GAP MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO ACCESS, YOU KNOW, A GROCERY STORE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON FOOT.
WHEREAS THE OTHER ONE, PERHAPS IT'S MORE RURAL IN NATURE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF SIDEWALKS, BUT THERE'S A PARTICULAR GAP ALONG A ROAD WHERE THERE'S NO OTHER ACCESS TO SERVICES.
THE NEEDS ARE EQUAL, THERE'S A GAP.
BUT IF WE DON'T TAKE FAIRNESS AND PERHAPS LOGIC INTO ACCOUNT, CAN WE REALLY, UH, DETERMINE BASED ON THAT ONE CRITERIA WHICH ONE IS APPROPRIATE? ULTIMATELY, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION IS MAKE IT OPEN-ENDED ENOUGH THAT THESE SORTS OF SMALL NUANCED ISSUES CAN BE SORTED OUT IN THE GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT YOU CREATE.
WE DON'T WANT TO HANDICAP THE PROCESS OF CREATING A GUIDING DOCUMENT BY HAVING A RECOMMENDATION THAT'S SO NARROW THAT YOU CAN'T GET AT WHAT YOU NEED TO.
BUT WE DO, I THINK, UH, IF WE'RE SPEAKING, IF WE'RE WORDSMITHING RIGHT NOW, TRANSPARENCY IS REALLY A BIG KEY THAT GETS AT ANOTHER ONE OF THE, UM, DECISION MAKING PRINCIPLES.
PEOPLE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISIONS.
AND WHEN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY A DECISION IS BEING MADE, THEY OFTEN CAN SEE THE INHERENT FAIRNESS IN IT IF THE, IF THE, UM, THE PROCESS TO GET THERE WAS TRANSPARENT.
SO, UH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.
UM, I THINK FAIRNESS IS LIKE AN INHERENTLY GOOD, UH, GOAL OF OF, OF ANY
UM, I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT IMPARTIALITY, IT'S CAN SOMETHING BE BOTH IMPARTIAL AND BASED ON NEEDS? I'D PROBABLY HAVE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IN THE DICTIONARY TO ANSWER THAT FOR YOU, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT.
YEAH, I, I MEAN I CERTAINLY ASSUME THAT EVERYTHING THE CITY DOES, THEY ASPIRE TO BE FAIR.
UM, SO I I'M FINE TO, TO LEAVE FAIR IN THERE.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW ELSE COULD WE PHRASE THIS WHERE IT WOULD BE CLEAR
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AND THERE WOULDN'T BE LIKE, WELL I'M SUPPOSED TO BE IMPARTIAL, BUT I'M SUPPOSED TO BASE ON NEED AND WELL, WHAT'S FAIR? LIKE, AH, I DON'T KNOW.YOU'LL GIVE US A, AN A DAY OR SO.
WE'LL CHAT ABOUT IT TOMORROW, MYSELF AND THE REST OF THE TEAM AND WE CAN, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS WITH STAFF AND THEN MENTION, EXPLAIN THIS TO COUNCIL THAT THIS CAME UP WHEN WE DO THE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AND YOU KNOW, OUR RECOMMENDATION GOING FORWARD.
AND I PRESUME THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH STAFF THAT THEY COULD JUST, UH, IF THEY CHOOSE TO ADOPT THE PLAN, THEY CAN ADOPT IT WITH THOSE CAVEATS.
WE MAKE THE CHANGES IN THE DOCUMENT AND WHEN THE FINAL ONE COMES BACK, IT WOULD BE MEETING WITH EVERYBODY'S APPROVAL AT THAT POINT.
SO STAFF, I WOULDN'T NEED TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ABOUT THAT IN A MOTION.
Y'ALL COULD TALK ABOUT IT OVER, OVER THE COMING DAYS.
'CAUSE LORD KNOWS I DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR HOW TO, TO PHRASE THAT.
SO I WILL LET Y'ALL WORK THAT OUT.
I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, FALLING WITH ME ON THAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR Z STAT? OKAY, JUST FOR A, UH, A THOUGHT HERE ABOUT, UH, FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S IN COMMON USAGE IN LANGUAGE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL THAT HAS SORT OF LEGAL UNDERPINNING TO IT IN THE END, UM, IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT.
AND SO I APPRECIATE THE IDEA ABOUT ADDRESSING NEEDS, BUT THEN THE THOUGHT OCCURS TO ME THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS NEEDS IMPARTIALLY AND BE A FAIR JUDGE OF THEM, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF ANY GIVEN SITUATION.
SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THAT AND WHERE THAT GOES.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE KIND OF COVERED, UM, USING THE TERM VERY IMPARTIAL FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT ASPECTS REALLY.
UM, SO I, I PERSONALLY AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE USAGE OF THAT LANGUAGE FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH.
UM, BECAUSE I HAVE THE T'S CROSSING AND I'S DOTTING LIST, I THINK I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION ON THIS ONE.
I'M REALLY SORRY TO BE NITPICKY.
I JUST, I, I READ THIS AND I SAW THINGS AND I WROTE THEM DOWN.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CITY OF KYLE 2030 COMP PLAN, UM, WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE ON THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS PAGE.
THAT'S, UM,
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I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED ON IT, BUT I DO WANT US TO LIKE DOUBLE, TRIPLE CHECK.
THE ALL KNOWN DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW ARE INCLUDED AND REPRESENTED ON BOTH MAPS SO THAT WE DON'T GET DOWN THE ROAD WHERE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN CONFLICT WITH THE PLAN.
UM, ON PAGE 66, IT'S A MAP ABOUT STATES OF DEVELOPMENT.
I SEE THAT UNSERVED SLASH UNDEVELOPED IS SHOWING UP TWO TIMES ON THE LEGEND.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THOSE IS UNSERVED UNDEVELOPED WITHIN THE CITY AND THEN OUTSIDE THE ETJ.
THEY MIGHT BOTH NEED TO BE THERE, BUT MAYBE A BIT MORE CLARITY WOULD BE GOOD.
UM, PAGE 1 0 9, IT REFERS TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE TYPE I AMEND OR I MOTION THAT WE CHANGE THAT TO SAY TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO ALIGN WITH THE PLACE TYPE THAT WE HAVE ON PAGE 73.
AND ON PAGE ONE 10, WE, UH, I THINK WE'RE CALLING IT A, A MIXED USE PLACE TYPE OR, OR HANG ON, I PAUSE PAGE ONE 10.
I DIDN'T WRITE THIS ONE DOWN THE WHOLE WAY SO I GOTTA CHECK IT.
YEAH, WE'RE CALLING IT A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD ON PAGE ONE 10.
AND I BELIEVE THE TERM THAT WE USED WAS URBAN MIXED USE PLACE TYPE.
PAGE 2127, LUGM SIX B REFERS TO AN URBAN VILLAGE PLACE TYPE.
UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT ONE IS ALSO MEANT TO BE URBAN MIXED USE.
SO, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, I RECOMMEND THAT WE UPDATE THAT ONE.
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1 26 OR 1 27, SORRY, 1 27.UM, SO IF YOU'LL GIMME A SECOND, I CAN TRY TO RECAP THAT.
DO I HAVE TO RUN THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST AGAIN EVERY TIME I REPEAT THE MOTION? OKAY.
UM, SO AGAIN, MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE, UM, UPDATES JUST NAMED.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR PERSON, KIN, AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JAMES.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS BEFORE WE VOTE? YES.
UM, I THINK ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN I SAID THE TEXAS A PA COMMISSION, I WENT TO LIKE THE FINAL AWARDS THING.
'CAUSE I WAS LIKE CURIOUS WHAT OTHER COMP PLANS LOOK LIKE.
AND THAT WAS LIKE, MAN, I REALLY WANNA WIN ONE OF THESE AWARDS.
HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND I THINK WE'VE GOT OUR ANSWER HONESTLY.
LIKE OF ALL I'VE, I'VE WORKED ON A COMP PLAN PREVIOUSLY IN A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY AND THIS IS LIGHT YEARS BETTER.
AND WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT, I THOUGHT ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, WHICH IS HOW DO WE TELL THE STORY OF KYLE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND OUR DECISION? HOW DO WE CONNECT THE KYLE OF YESTERDAY TO THE KYLE OF TOMORROW? HOW DO WE HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE MAKING CRITICAL CHANGE AT THIS TIME? HOW DO WE LEAVE THIS PROCESS GIVING FUTURE COUNCILS AND COMMISSIONS A BETTER PROCESS THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS? HAVE WE CREATED A SPACE IN WHICH EVERYONE AND KYLE GETS A CHANCE TO BE PART OF THIS PLAN IF THEY WANT TO BE AND CAN WE MAKE IT HAPPEN? I THINK THIS IS THE WORK THAT REALLY DEFINES WHAT WE DO ON THIS COMMISSION.
IT DEFINES NOT ONLY HOW WE USE LAND USE, BUT ALSO HOW FUTURE COMMISSIONS AND COUNCILS GET TO USE LAND USE.
IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISIONS WE CAN MAKE AND I THINK WE'RE MAKING A REALLY GOOD DECISION.
BUT I ALSO WILL SAY WE CAN'T CONTROL HOW FUTURE COUNCILS AND COMMISSIONS GET TO USE OUR DECISION MAKING PRINCIPLES OR ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN HERE.
THIS IS THE TRUST THAT IF WE DO OUR JOB THE RIGHT WAY, WE'LL LEAVE THEM SEEING THE DECISIONS THAT WE MADE SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE DID.
I THINK WE MUST BE CAREFUL ABOUT LIMITING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE PUT IN THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT'S BROAD FOR A REASON.
BECAUSE OUR COUNCIL WILL HAVE, OUR COUNCIL AND COMMISSION WILL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.
OUR CITY WILL HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS IN FIVE, 10 YEARS THAT WE CANNOT ADDRESS OR WILL NOT ADDRESS TODAY.
AND SO I'M EXCITED TO VOTE FOR THIS PLAN.
UM, I DEFINITELY JUST WANNA LEAVE THAT THERE BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT VERY SPECIFICS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE IT BROAD ENOUGH THAT EVERYBODY CAN USE IT.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
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Staff Report by Will Atkinson, Director of Planning.
- Anticipated Comprehensive Plan approval at regularly scheduled City Council meeting on January 16th, 2024.
- Anticipated adoption of Downtown Masterplan in late February or early March.
- RFP for Development Code Rewrite - April/May timeframe.
- National Planning Conference - April 13-16 in person, May 8-10 online.
ITEM SEVEN, A STAFF REPORT BY WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, OR MAYBE NOT BY WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR PLANNING.
'CAUSE I SEE JASON LUTZ WALKING UP TO NO, JASON LUTS SENIOR PLANNER.
UM, SO YES, BEFORE I TOUCH ON THIS, CONGRATULATIONS.
UH, I WAS NOT EXPECTING, UH, THAT QUICK OF A, OF CONVERSATION.
SO THAT'S KUDOS TO YOU GUYS FOR STAYING ON TOP OF THIS DOCUMENT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
UM, WE KNOW FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST READ, ALTHOUGH VIRGINITY DID A GREAT JOB ON MAKING IT THAT WAY.
SO THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG, WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF CHANGES.
UH, THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO YOUR WORK ON THIS.
UM, SO WITH HAVING SAID THAT, GO ON A STAFF REPORT, UH, KIND OF FUTURE ITEMS. UM, SO THIS IS GONNA MOVE TO COUNCIL ON JANUARY 16TH.
UM, HOPEFULLY COUNCIL WILL WILL TAKE ACTION ON THAT ONE, UM, AND INCORPORATE THE, THE CHANGES, UM, THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY CHAIRMAN.
UM, AFTER THAT, UH, THE KIND OF BIG WORK STARTS.
UM, ONCE THE COMP PLAN IS ADOPTED, UM, WE'LL MOVE NEXT INTO THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
OUR GOAL WOULD BE AN ADOPTION IN LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH.
UH, KAYLA'S DOING A GOOD JOB ON FINALIZING THAT DOCUMENT SO WE CAN GET THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, AND THEN ONCE THAT IS COMPLETE, WE'LL BE WORKING ON, UM,
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AND FINALIZING RFP FOR OUR CODE REWRITE.THAT'LL BE THE FIRST ACTION STEP IN THE COMP PLAN, UM, TO DISCUSS.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE AT THE END THERE WAS YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO.
UM, STAFF WILL NEED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND KIND OF HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S NEXT ON THAT LIST.
BUT THE CODE REWRITE IS A MAJOR ONE.
UM, WE WILL WORK THAT RFP, UH, BRING THAT OUT AND HOPEFULLY HAVE APRIL, MAY, SOMETHING BEFORE YOU GUYS IN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
UM, AND THEN DURING APRIL, WE ALSO HAVE THE NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE.
SO I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU ATTENDED LAST YEAR, PHILADELPHIA THIS YEAR IT'S IN MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA.
UM, SO, UM, IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING IN PERSON, THOSE DATES ARE THE 13TH THROUGH THE 16TH.
UM, WE DO HAVE A BUDGET FOR EVERYBODY TO GO, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, BUT CAN'T MAKE THE TRIP PHYSICALLY.
THEN THERE ARE SOME, UM, ONLINE VERSIONS THROUGH MAY 8TH THROUGH 10TH.
SO, UM, JUST KIND OF LOOK AT YOUR CALENDARS, UH, KINDA LET US KNOW IF YOU PLAN ON ATTENDING SO WE CAN START WORKING IN THOSE INTO OUR SCHEDULE.
UM, BUT THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ADJOURNMENT.
WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION AND I'M SORRY.
UM, AND IT JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ONCE THE FINAL DRAFT OF THIS COMP PLAN IS PRINTED, THAT NOT ONLY EACH OF US AND THEN COUN CURRENT COUNSEL GETS, UH, COPIES, BUT ALSO THAT WE PRINT ENOUGH COPIES FOR ANY FUTURE COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THAT THEY HAVE A PHYSICAL COPY OF IT AS WELL.
IT'S JUST SO MUCH EASIER TO TRY TO HAVE THAT YOU, YOU HANDED IT FROM THE GET-GO WHEN YOU'RE A COMMISSIONER SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW IT AND HAVE TIME AND BE ON TOP OF THAT.
AND I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PRINTED, THEN IT, IT'S ALSO A NICE GIFT.
UH, WELCOME TO THE COMMISSION.
SO IF WE DON'T MIND, LOVELY IDEA.
WILL, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET ALL OF THE, ALL OF YOU GUYS A UPDATED COPY OF THIS ONCE IT'S APPROVED.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ADJOURNMENT.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA DO IT Y'ALL'S WAY THIS TIME.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN FROM COMMISSIONER SIEGEL AND A SECOND BY VICE CHAIR DE LORI.