May 14, 2024 Planning and Zoning Meeting

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM VICE CHAIR DE LORI AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHEEL.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY.

GREAT.

MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER THREE, CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF REGULAR MEETINGS.

SPEAKERS ARE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS, AND THEY MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN CITIZEN COMMENTS.

OH, WE DO HAVE, WHAT IS THIS THAT, SHOULD WE READ THAT INTO CITIZEN COMMENTS? WILL ATKINSON PLANNING DIRECTED FOR THE RECORD? IS IT THE, UH, THE LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED? YES.

THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR AT THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UM, AGENDA.

HANG ON THEM FOR LATER WHEN YOU HAVE A COPY.

OH, I DO.

UNDER CONSIDERED IMPOSSIBLE ACTION WITH THE AGENDA.

WELL, SEEING NONE FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT NOW.

I DIDN'T CLOSE THE MEETING.

I JUST KNOCKED OVER THE GAVEL.

I'M GONNA DO IT AGAIN.

UM, SO CITIZEN COMMENTS IS NOW CLOSED.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CONSENT

[IV) Consent Agenda]

AGENDA ITEM 4.2 OR 4.1.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR 1 1 2 1 EAST FM ONE 50 LOT ONE SUB DASH 24 DASH 0 3 3 3.

LOCATION LOCATED AT 1 1 2 1 EAST FM ONE 50.

UH, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT ITEM? I'M STILL OUTTA BREATH.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MYSELF AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SERATO.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY DISCUSSION.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YES.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION WHY THIS IS BEFORE US.

IF WE HAVE TO VOTE YES, BECAUSE IT STATES IN THE PRESENTATION THAT LEGALLY WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO VOTE.

YES.

SO WHY ARE WE, WHY COULDN'T STAFF JUST OKAY IT AND WHY DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT? BECAUSE IT IS NOT A SHORT FORM PLAT.

UM, IT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS STAFF TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE IT.

SO IT'S A FINAL PLAT FOR A COMMERCIAL LOT.

AND, UM, IT'S, IT REQUIRES THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO APPROVE IT, BUT WE PUT IT ON CONSENT BECAUSE IT MEETS ALL THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, BEING TOLD THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE YES.

YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S JUST KIND OF OKAY.

, SO, OKAY.

, SHE HAD SOMETHING TO ADD.

I WILL SAY IF YOU FOUND AN ISSUE WITH THE PLAN OR SOMETHING OUTTA COMPLIANCE, YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY ASK FOR CLARIFICATION AND, AND OR VOTE NO ON IT.

BUT STAFF HAS LOOKED AT IT TO SEE IF IT MEETS THE, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, STATE AND LOCAL STATUTES FOR, FOR THE PLAT.

YEAH, AS I SAID IN THE PRESENTATION, IT PRETTY MUCH SAID YOU WE HAD TO VOTE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT ITEM? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY.

FIVE, CONSIDER AN POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM 5.1.

THAT PASSES.

UM, ITEM NUMBER

[3) Consider and make a recommendation to City Council regarding a request to rezone approximately 45.3 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services), to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development) with a base zoning district of RS for approximately 29.9 acres and R-3-3 (apartments) for approximately 15.4 acres for a project known as Two Step located at 22675 IH-35 in Kyle Texas. (Kyle Retail/Office LLC - Z-23-0119). Public Hearing ]

CONSIDER AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 45.3 ACRES OF LAND FROM RS RETAIL SERVICES TO PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH A BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF RS FOR APPROXIMATELY 29.9 ACRES AND R DASH THREE DASH THREE APARTMENTS FOR APPROXIMATELY 15.4 ACRES FOR A PROJECT KNOWN AS TWO STEP LOCATED AT 2 2 6 7 5 IH 35 IN KYLE, TEXAS, BROUGHT BY KYLE RETAIL SLASH OFFICE, LLC, Z DASH 23 DASH 0 1 1 9.

THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM,

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SO I'LL OPEN THAT NOW.

VOILA.

I'VE GOT A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.

OKAY, SO THIS IS FROM, I JUST READ IT OUT.

I'VE NOT HAD ONE OF THESE BEFORE.

I JUST READ IT OUT.

YES.

UH, YOU JUST, UH, READ THE, UH, THE LETTER AND BASED ON WHAT THEY SAID INTO THE RECORD, SO, OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS IS COMING FROM SMITH DAIRY QUEENS ADDRESS, 1 2 6 0 1 IH 35 CAL, TEXAS.

THEY'RE SAYING THEY ARE NOT IN FAVOR BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THE, ON THE PROJECT.

ANYONE ELSE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKIE DOKIE.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT NOW AT 6 35.

UM, MR. LUTZ, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THIS? UH, YES.

UH, CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, GOOD EVENING.

UM, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS, UH, KZ 23 0 1 1 9.

THIS IS A REZONING REQUESTING A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS IS THE LOCATION PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE.

THIS IS, UH, BASICALLY THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF FM ONE 50, UH, BEHIND THE EXISTING DAIRY QUEEN RIGHT ACROSS, UH, I 35 FROM US HERE TONIGHT.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING AT REQUESTING THIS PUD THEY'RE ALLOWING, UH, THE PUD WOULD ALLOW THIS PROPERTY TO DEVELOP, UH, A COMBINATION OF COMMERCIAL, UH, MULTIFAMILY OFFICE AREAS, UH, APPROXIMATELY 29 ACRES OF RETAIL SERVICES ZONING, UH, AND THEN 15 ACRES OF THE R THREE THREE.

AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS DIVIDED BY FM ONE 50, BUT THE PROJECT IS DESIGNED, UH, AND WILL, UH, OPERATE AS ONE, UH, UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THE P WILL ALSO HAVE AN ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO FURTHER REGULATE THE, UH, PROJECT, UM, AS WELL AS A THREE 80 AGREEMENT THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED, UH, BY CITY COUNCIL.

UM, THE DA IS GOING TO ALLOW A REDUCTION OF MINIMUM MASONRY REQUIRED, UM, FOR THE I 35 OVERLAY.

SO CURRENTLY, UM, THE I 35 OVERLAY REQUIRES 90%, UH, BRICK OR STONE.

UH, THIS ONE WILL ALLOW 60% MASONRY, BRICK, STONE, OR STUCCO WITH THE MINIMUM 40% ACTUALLY BEING A BRICK OR STONE.

SO, UM, THEY CAN ALLOW STUCCO AND, AND THE EXTRA 20% IF IF NEEDED.

UM, THE DA IS NOT PART OF Y'ALL'S PURVIEW, BUT I WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT THAT WAS IN THERE BECAUSE THAT IS GONNA BE PART OF THE, THE OVERALL LOOK AND FEEL OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA LOOK AT A PA MAXIMUM OF 350 MULTIFAMILY UNITS, UM, 24 TOWN HOMES.

UH, AND, SORRY, THIS IS A TYPO.

THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE AN ADDITIONAL, UH, 15, UH, FLATS AS THEY'RE CALLING THEM ON THE RS PARCEL ON THE WEST.

SO, UH, APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 39 MAXIMUM UNITS ON THE WEST SIDE OF ONE 50.

UM, AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY, THE R THREE THREE SECTION THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IS GOING TO HAVE A 350 UNITS TOTAL CAP ON THAT ONE AS WELL.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT 150,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES.

AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO DONATING OR OPENING APPROXIMATELY 13 ACRES FOR PUBLIC PARK LAND.

IT WILL BE PRIVATELY OWNED AND PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, BUT IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

UM, SO WE LOOK AT THE LAND PLAN HERE BEFORE YOU, AGAIN, THIS TRACT IS BROKEN UP INTO BASICALLY THREE PARCELS.

UM, YOU GOT PARCEL, UH, ONE, WHICH IS RS PARCEL TWO, UM, RS ZONING AS WELL.

AND THEN PARCEL THREE HAS THE BASE ZONING OF THE R THREE THREE.

UM, AGAIN, PRETTY MUCH, UH, BASIC LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY, UM, FOR THIS TRACT.

SO WE WILL LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, KIND OF IN SECTIONS.

I'LL TAKE EACH PARCEL PIECE BY PIECE.

UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE SOME FAMILIAR LANGUAGE REGARDING PROHIBITED USES.

UM, SO THE RS IS A PRETTY OPEN ZONING DISTRICT, UH, BUT CURRENTLY WE ARE GONNA RECOMMEND PROHIBITION OF THE FOLLOWING USES.

UH, THIS IS OUR STANDARD LIST THAT WE GENERALLY TAKE WHENEVER, UM, WE CONSIDER A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

UH, AGAIN, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF AND KIND OF THE UNIQUENESS PROBABLY DOESN'T LEND ITSELF WELL TO SOME OF THESE USES, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEMORIALIZE THAT IN THE PUT DOCUMENT ITSELF.

UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, PARCEL ONE, THIS IS RS AGAIN, THIS WILL BE MORE OF A DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT RETAIL, RESTAURANT, UH, OFFICE, HOTEL, AND THEN A VIBE SPOT.

UM, SOME OF THESE, UH, DIFFERENCES IN THIS POD VERSUS THE BASE ZONING WILL BE 20 FOOT SETBACKS FROM I 35 AND FM ONE 50.

UM, UNLESS THERE'S SOME KIND OF EASEMENT IN THERE, SOME OF SOME OF THESE AREAS MAY HAVE A 30 FOOT UTILITY EASEMENT, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN'T DEVELOP IN THOSE.

BUT, UM, IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A REDUCTION FOR WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE IN THE RS STANDARD ZONING, UH, SETBACK.

IT WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR ZERO SIDE YARD SETBACKS, UM, AND INTERIOR SIDE LOT LINES, UM, PROVIDED THAT THE, THE BUILDINGS DO MEET THE FIRE CODE FOR THE REQUIRED SEPARATION BASED ON BUILDING TYPE.

UM, THERE IS NO MINIMUM LOT SIZES ON THIS.

UM, AND IT WOULD ALLOW LOTS TO HAVE CROSS ACCESS EASEMENTS.

SO CURRENTLY OUR, OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES EACH LOT

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TO HAVE FRONTAGE.

UM, THIS ONE WILL WAIVE THAT FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT, ALLOW THOSE PARCELS TO HAVE CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT IF NEEDED, IF NEED BE, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW THE PROPERTY IS SUBDIVIDED.

UH, AGAIN, 24 RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOMES AND 15 RESIDENTIAL FATS LOCATED IN TWO AREAS.

THOSE ARE GONNA BE ON THE NORTH, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THE SOUTHEAST SIDE AS WELL, UM, JUST ABOVE THAT POND.

THOSE ARE THE TWO LOCATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THIS TRACT.

UM, PARCEL TWO IS GONNA BE AN ENTERTAINMENT RETAIL HUB.

THIS IS GONNA BE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL, JUST TO THE NORTH OR THE R THREE THREE MULTIFAMILY.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AGAIN AT PROPOSED VIBE, TRAIL RETAIL SHOPPING, OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACES, UM, POSSIBLE BEER GARDEN WITH THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AS WELL.

UH, AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES.

UH, WILL BE A WATER FEATURE, OPEN SPACE DOG PARK, UH, PICNIC, UH, AREAS, AND THEN AGAIN, PUBLIC ACCESS TO THAT.

UH, WATER FEATURE AMENITY.

UM, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE IMAGE, UH, JUST ABOVE THE SIDEWALK AS WE LOOK AT PARCEL THREE.

THIS IS OUR TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, UH, PARCEL.

UM, IT'S GONNA AGAIN BE CAPPED AT 350 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UH, WITH 1.3 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.

UH, THIS WILL HAVE 25 FOOT FRONT SETBACKS, UH, BUT 15 SETBACK FROM MIKEY COURT.

THAT'S A LITTLE STUB OUT STREET, UH, ALONG THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, IT'S ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THIS IMAGE.

UH, AND THEN AGAIN, THIS WOULD ALLOW ZERO SETBACKS ON INTERIOR AND SIDE LOT LINES, UH, PROVIDED THEY MEET FIRE SEPARATION FOR BUILDING MATERIALS.

UM, PARKLAND DEDICATION IS PART OF THIS, THIS PUT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THEY, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, 13.5 ACRES APPROXIMATELY PARKLAND, UH, AS WELL AS THE VIBE TRAIL AND THE VIBE SPOT.

UM, PARKLAND AC TRIGGER IS ILLUSTRATED ON EXHIBIT C.

I HAVE A COUPLE IMAGES THAT I'LL, I'LL RUN THROUGH AND KIND OF SHOW YOU WHERE THOSE ARE.

UM, THIS WILL SATISFY THEIR PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS TO THE CITY.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA AMENITIZE THIS, UH, AS WELL.

SO ANY OF THOSE, UH, COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE IZATION, UH, WILL GO TO ITS PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT FEE, UH, AS CREDIT.

SO, UM, THEY WON'T BE PAYING A SEPARATE FEE PER UNIT ON THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, THAT WE TRADITIONALLY SEE.

UH, AGAIN, UH, ALL PARKLAND PRIVATE, UH, IS GONNA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

IT'LL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, UM, EXCEPT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY TRACK.

UM, THE, THE POOL AND, AND THOSE PRIVATE AREAS, THOSE, THOSE WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE.

SO HERE'S KIND OF AN IMAGE OF SOME OF THE PARKLAND.

UH, WE'VE GOT SOME VIBE TRAIL GOING THROUGH THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, DOWN THROUGH THE CREEK.

UM, THERE'S ALSO A PARK, UM, KIND OF ENTRANCE AND PICNIC AREA JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF, OF FM ONE 50.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA, UH, EXTEND THE EXISTING 10 FOOT, UH, PEDESTRIAN PATH OR A SIDEWALK THAT'S A LONG I 35.

CURRENTLY.

THEY'RE GONNA EXTEND THAT ALONG THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN DOWNHILL STREET, THIS IS THE VIBE SPOT DETAIL.

THIS IS KIND OF THE CENTER OF THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL ON R THE R ONE TRACT, OR I'M SORRY, THE PARCEL ONE TRACT.

UM, AND THEN THESE ARE KIND OF SOME CONCEPT IMAGES OF WHAT, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THE INTERIOR OF THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE VIBE AREA.

UM, SO THIS NEXT FEW IMAGES, AGAIN, I WANT TO TOUCH THE DA'S GONNA COVER THE, THE REGULATIONS, UH, REGARDING BUILDING MATERIALS.

UM, BUT I DID WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS.

UM, I DO WANT TO, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL.

THEY MAY CHANGE, UH, DEPENDING ON THE ARCHITECT AND THE FINAL DESIGN.

UH, THIS WILL NOT BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU GUYS SEE AS PART OF YOUR NORMAL I 35 OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICTS BECAUSE OF THE DA AND THE ZONING.

UM, STAFF WILL NEED TO DO A THOROUGH REVIEW TO MAKE SURE IT ADHERES THAT POINT.

AND SO WE WILL BE KIND OF BYPASSING THAT NOW, IF THERE'S ISSUES OR CHANGES TO THE PLAN, UM, AND MAYBE WE DON'T AGREE, UH, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, THEY CAN'T APPEAL.

AND THAT MAY GO TO, TO YOU OR IF THERE ARE ANY FUTURE CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS THAT, THAT WOULD COME TO YOU AS WELL.

UM, SO REAL QUICKLY, I'M GONNA KIND OF JUST JUMP THROUGH SOME OF THESE, UH, CONCEPTUAL IMAGES.

UM, THIS IS THE RETAIL SECTION.

THIS WOULD BE THE VIBE AREA, THE VIBE SPOT, GETTING MORE RETAIL, AND THEN SIGNS.

UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF VARIANCES TO OUR SIGN CODE THAT WAS WORKED INTO THIS, UH, UH, AREA THAT, UH, MOSTLY RE RELATED TO SQUARE FOOTAGE AND MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR THESE.

UH, I BELIEVE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ON THIS IS GONNA BE 60 FEET, UH, FOR ANY OF THE, THE BIG LARGE ENTRY MONUMENT SIGNS.

AND THEN, UH, THE WATER TOWER THAT YOU SAW IN THAT FIRST IMAGE WILL ALSO BE AN ELECTRONIC READER BOARD SIGN.

UM, SO THAT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST A WATER TOWER.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SEE THAT FROM THE IMAGES, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE Y'ALL SAW THAT.

UM, SO, UH, THE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU TODAY ARE RECOMMEND

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APPROVAL TO REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE, UH, AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGES WITH ANY P AND Z RECOMMENDATIONS OR MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU DEEM NECESSARY OR THAT YOU'D LIKE TO INCLUDE.

UM, AND THEN YOUR OPTION THREE IS RECOMMEND DENIAL.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE AT THIS TIME.

UM, BUT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T, UH, ADDRESS.

SO THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MADAM CHAIR? YES.

UH, MR. LUTZ, UH, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE FOR MY OWN OWN EDIFICATION.

IF WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE, AT THE PLAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

THAT'S FINE.

UM, I'M, UH, I HAVE A CONCERN, IT'S A SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT THE INTERACTION BETWEEN TURNING TRAFFIC ON THE WEST ENTRANCE, THE TWO ENTRANCES THERE, AND THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD.

THE TRAFFIC IN THERE IS O OFTEN QUITE, QUITE FAST, AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE A TURN LANE TO GO IN OR OUT OF THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.

HAVE WE CONSIDERED OR HAS THE APPLICANT CONSIDERED DOING TURN LANES? UH, YES.

FOR THOSE ENTRANCES? UH, YES.

SO THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN COORDINATING WITH TXDOT MM-HMM, , UM, UH, I APOLOGIZE THAT I DID NOT HAVE A SLIDE FOR THAT.

UH, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A, UH, A PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY TXDOT.

UM, THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE A MID-BLOCK CROSSING.

UM, IF YOU LOOK ON THIS IMAGE RIGHT BELOW THE F ON FM ONE 50, THAT WILL BECOME A SIGNALED INTERSECTION.

UM, THERE WILL NEED TO BE IMPROVEMENTS DONE TO, TO THIS AREA.

UM, POSSIBLY DESAL LANES IN SOME AREAS, TURN LANES IN OTHERS.

SO THERE WILL BE SOME MODIFICATIONS.

WE DO NOT HAVE THAT, THAT FINAL PLAN APPROVED BY TDO AT THIS POINT.

BUT THE PUD DOES CONTEMPLATE TDO APPROVAL.

THERE ARE SOME EXHIBITS ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL KIND OF DICTATE WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE.

UM, IT WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO MODIFY THOSE, UH, DEPENDING ON, UM, EITHER CHANGES IN THE LAND PLAN OR TRAFFIC PATTERNS, UM, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST SOME DRIVEWAYS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU AT THAT POINT.

AND AS AMENDMENT IS WRITTEN THAT AS LONG AS T DOT SIGNS OFF AND, AND STAFF GIVES THEIR APPROVAL, UM, AND IT'S IN BASIC COMPLIANCE WITH, WITH WHAT'S THERE, THAT, THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THAT.

AGAIN, THIS, UH, SECTION ONE 50 IS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY OR NOT CONTROLLED BY THE CITY.

ITS ACCESS IS REGULATED THROUGH TXDOT.

SO I WASN'T REFERRING TO THE ONE 50.

I'M, I'M GLAD THERE'S GONNA BE A LIGHT THERE.

I WAS REFERRING TO THE, UH, TO THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD AND THAT AND 35 FRONTAGE.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S TEXTILE.

YES, YES.

SO IS OUR CITY ENGINEERING PARTICIPATING IN THIS TRAFFIC OR, UH, CITY STAFF HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE, IN THE INITIAL SCOPING, WE'VE ALSO REVIEWED AND MADE SOME COMMENTS, SO, YES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, SECOND QUESTION.

UH, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, USUALLY THE DEDICATION IS LAND THAT'S TURNED OVER TO THE CITY AND THEN THE CITY OPERATES IT AS A PARK, AS A, AS A CITY PARK, CORRECT? UM, I I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR RETAINING IT AS PRIVATE LAND AND, AND, AND PRIVATE MAINTENANCE BY, BY THE OWNERS.

UH, GENERALLY, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.

UM, IF PARKLAND IS BEING DEDICATED, THAT IS GENERALLY GIVEN TO THE CITY OWNED AND OPERATED.

UM, BUT AS I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE, THERE'S, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS ALTERNATE ROUTE WHERE THEY GET SOME CREDIT AS LONG AS THEY PROVIDE IT FOR, FOR OPEN AREAS AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, I THINK BECAUSE OF, OF THE NATURE OF THIS AREA.

UM, AND THAT'S NOT PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT TO TAKE ON.

UM, BUT THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO, TO OPEN IT UP.

UM, SO DURING OUR DISCUSSIONS, THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT WAS NEGOTIATED.

UM, IF YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS OR OTHER THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL CAN MAKE Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO, TO COUNSEL.

UM, BUT, BUT BASED ON THE KIND OF LAYOUT AND WHERE IT WAS AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS IN THE AREA, WE FELT THAT THIS WAS, UM, WORTHY, UH, ACCEPTANCE INTO THE POD.

YEAH, I JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

NORMALLY IF WE HAVE OUR OWN PARKS, WE, WE MAINTAIN THEM TO A CERTAIN STANDARD.

IN THIS INSTANCE, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT TO THE, TO THE OWNER TO MAINTAIN THE PARKS TO A CERTAIN STANDARD.

AND UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD AFFECT THAT.

ONCE IT'S ESTABLISHED, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT.

SO, UM, THE PARKLAND WILL BE DEDICATED, UH, EITHER VIA AN EASEMENT OR SOME SEPARATE PARKS AGREEMENT.

UM, SO AT THAT POINT WE CAN DISCUSS, UH, KIND OF HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, MAINTENANCE IF THERE'S SPECIFIC CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE THAT TRASH REMOVAL AND THINGS YES, SIR.

THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THAT GONNA BE PERMITTED LIKE NEAR THE BEER GARDEN OR IN THAT AREA? UH, YES SIR.

SO APPROVAL OF THIS POD WILL, WILL NOT GUARANTEE THAT THAT THIS PARK, WE STILL HAVE SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THERE, BUT ULTIMATELY THIS, THIS WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND SATISFY THE CREDIT.

OKAY, THANKS.

AND THEN IF, IF PARK GOERS FROM THE PUBLIC WANT TO PARK IN THE, UH, IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, IS THAT, IS

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SO THE, THE PARKING IS DESIGNED TO BE SHARED ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE, OBVIOUSLY, EXCEPT FOR THE R THREE THREE AREAS.

UM, IF WE HAVE SOME SPECIFIC CONCERNS ON THAT, UM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU, YOU PUT ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE INTO THE MOTION OR THE RECOMMENDATION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE COUNCIL'S AWARE OF THOSE.

THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

I, I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON IT, BUT WHEN ARE WE GONNA LEARN MORE ABOUT THE MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING USED? BECAUSE IT IS QUITE A JUMP FROM LIKE THE TYPICAL I 35 OVERLAY OF 90% TO 60%.

UH, YOU GUYS PROBABLY WOULD NOT SEE ANY MATERIALS AFTER THIS POINT.

UM, THEY WOULD BE BASICALLY HAVE TO BE IN LINE LINE WITH THOSE EXHIBITS.

UM, SO IF IF, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE 60% THAT WAS THERE, UM, THEN, THEN, YOU KNOW, VOTE HOW YOU WILL, IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN I WOULD, I WOULD SAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR WHATEVER PERCENTAGE YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE.

UM, BUT FROM A, FROM A MATERIAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU WOULD NOT SEE THAT UNLESS, UH, THE APPLICANT CAME IN WITH, WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF OUTSIDE OF WHAT THOSE CONCEPT IMAGES WERE.

UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA STATE, UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT.

AND IF STAFF FELT THAT DIDN'T REALLY MEET THE INTENT, UM, WE WOULD DENY THAT AND THEN YOU WOULD BE THE, THE APPEAL BOARD ON THAT.

ALRIGHT, SO WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, I WAS EXCITED FOR, UH, SEEING RS.

I LIVED DOWN ONE 50 AND I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR RS FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PLOT FOR QUITE A WHILE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, WE WERE PROMISED AN HEB HERE, THERE, SO, YOU KNOW, UM, HOWEVER, PARCEL ONE AND PARCEL TWO, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH PARCEL THREE.

WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE APARTMENTS HERE? WHY CANNOT THIS BE COMPLETE RETAIL SERVICES? UM, HAS THERE BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY? BECAUSE THAT STRETCH OF ONE 50 GETS VERY BACKED UP.

AND SO ADDING MORE HOMES, YOU KNOW, R THREE THREE THERE, UM, JUST THAT BOTHERS ME A LOT.

UM, MATTER OF FACT, COUNSEL HAS, UH, DECLINED R THREE THREE IN THAT SPOT TWICE BEFORE.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS HERE.

WHY CANNOT WE, WHY CAN WE NOT JUST HAVE IT ALL, UM, RETAIL SERVICES MAYBE WITH SOME TOWN HOMES AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMMERCIAL WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, LOFT SPACES.

I CAN HANDLE THAT, BUT THAT DENSE FAMILY, THAT, THAT BOTHERS ME A LOT.

UM, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, WOULD YOU HAVE ACCESS FROM YOUR NORTHWEST CORNER AREA OF, UM, OF, UH, PARCEL ONE? COULD YOU HAVE A WAY TO MAYBE HELP OUT DAIRY QUEEN WITH ITS ISSUE OF ITS DRIVE-THROUGH? 'CAUSE IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN THERE AT CERTAIN TIMES YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT DRIVE-THROUGH ACTUALLY GOES OUT ONTO ONE 50.

PEOPLE ARE PARKED ON ONE 50 UP TO THE ACCESS ROAD.

SO THAT'S A TRAFFIC HAZARD ALREADY.

AND I KNOW THE CITY'S BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH DAIRY QUEEN TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, BUT THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE ALREADY.

UM, SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO MAYBE WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, FIGURE THAT OUT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST, AND HAVING A LIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE, I JUST, AGAIN, SEE ALL THAT TRAFFIC BEING BACKED UP PAST ONE, UH, PAST THE, UH, ACCESS ROAD.

JUST LIKE IT HAPPENS SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TRAIN COMES THROUGH ON THE OTHER SIDE BACKED UP OR, UM, WHEN, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS JUST, JUST TRAFFIC IS HORRIFIC IN THIS AREA.

UM, SO I JUST WORRY ABOUT SAFETY WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE TRAFFIC OF, UM, JUST HAVING, ESPECIALLY JUST HAVING THAT MUCH R THREE THREE, AGAIN, A LOT OF RETAIL AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THAT RETAIL, YOU KNOW, ALL UP AND DOWN ONE 50.

AND NOW WITH THE NEW WATERSTONE DEVELOPMENT, ALL THOSE HOMES, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING FROM THOSE AREAS WHO WILL SUPPORT YOUR, UH, RETAIL SERVICES.

SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THE R THREE THREE AND,

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YEAH, I'LL, UH, I'LL HAVE TO TURN THOSE QUESTIONS OVER OKAY.

TO THE OWNER TO, TO ANSWER.

SO.

ALRIGHT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND LEMME SEE IF I CAN HELP CLARIFY A FEW THINGS.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR THREE YEARS AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.

WE WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS OPEN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IN KYLE, NOT JUST FOR THE MULTIFAMILY GROUP THAT'S GONNA POSSIBLY OCCUPY THIS PAR THIS PARCEL.

THE IDEA WAS ORIGINALLY WHEN WE CAME TO KYLE TO START TALKING ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY WANTED TO PUT SOME RETAIL UNDERNEATH SOME OF THE MULTIFAMILY.

AND THAT WAS KIND OF THE, THE THOUGHT BEHIND SOME OF THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT Y'ALL WERE DOING AROUND KYLE.

AND OUR IDEA WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE R ONE OR LOT ONE AND LOT TWO WERE OPEN FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO DRIVE THERE.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO GO GET THEIR GOLF CARTS OR COME IN THEIR GOLF CARTS.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO KIDS TO USE THESE AMENITIES.

AND THAT'S WHY WE SEPARATED THE RETAIL OR LOT TWO FROM THE, FROM THE MULTIFAMILY.

WE FELT LIKE THAT THE MULTIFAMILY IS GONNA HELP EMPLOY, OR THE RETAIL'S GONNA HELP EMPLOY SOME OF THE MULTIFAMILY.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT WAS JUST LIKE, IT JUST OPENS ALL THIS PARKLAND OF 30, 30 OF THE 45 ACRES FOR EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME VISIT FROM KYLE OR FROM SAN MARCUS OR FROM BETA OR WHEREVER.

SO IT'S MORE OF A DESIGN THAT WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO DO WHAT IS REALLY FOR THE KIDS AND THE NEIGHBORS AND EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME HERE ON A WEEKEND.

AND WE, AND WE WERE HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING, TRYING TO CREATE WAS A DESTINATION, NOT JUST ONE VIBE TRAIL THAT, UH, THAT JASON WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE WERE WANTING THIS OTHER AREA ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LIGHT TO BE IN THE POND, TO BE ANOTHER VIBE AREA, THAT THAT'S A PLACE THAT PEOPLE GO AND, AND ENJOY WITH THE KIDS WALKING AROUND THE PARK DOG PARK.

THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THESE TRAILS AND, AND, AND, UH, BY TRAILS COMING THROUGH HERE, WE WERE, UM, AGAIN, WORKING WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WOULD DO REALLY, REALLY WELL.

AND WE WANT IT TO ALL LOOK THE SAME.

WE WANT THE SAME MASONRY AND WE WANT THE SAME, UH, RESTRICTIONS THAT EVERY BIT OF THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE DEVELOPMENT, NOT THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS.

SO EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE DESIGNED TO A T AND THEN IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PICTURES THAT Y'ALL HAVE SEEN, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF RENDERINGS THAT WENT INTO THIS AND THREE YEARS OF WORK THAT'S GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS, ET CETERA.

SO WE'RE KIND OF AT THAT POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO WRAP EVERYTHING UP, BUT IT'S, IT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE WERE, WE'VE AGAIN HAD, I DUNNO, MULTIPLE MEETINGS A DOZEN OR MORE, PROBABLY A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS IDEAS ORIGINALLY THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SOME TOWN HOMES AFFORDABLE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WHAT WE BUILT INTO OUR PLAN WENT WITH THE LARGE RETAIL TRACKS.

SO WE PUT SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME TOWN HOMES THERE TO, BECAUSE IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE AFFORDABILITY'S GREAT PEOPLE LIKE THAT KIND OF, UH, DESIGN AND IT'S USEFUL.

THE SAME THING APPLIED WITH FLATS.

WE WERE, YOU KNOW, ASKED WOULD YOU PROVIDE US SOME FLATS WHERE PEOPLE COULD RENT OR BUY? SURE.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD WITH THIS PLAN AND JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN STILL TWEAK SOME THINGS AROUND HERE AND THERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE REALLY KIND OF DONE THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, UM, LAND PLANNERS.

AND SO THIS IS THE BEST PLAN THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH TODAY.

AND SO FAR, I MEAN, I HAD A PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL DECEMBER 19TH I BELIEVE.

AND WE WERE TOLD THAT EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT, PLEASE MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TRY TO GET Y'ALL TO APPROVE THIS PROCESS AND MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD.

AND WE'RE EXCITED.

WE WANNA GET THIS THING STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

WE'VE GOT HAD, UH, AN ELABORATE TTIA DONE ON THIS PROPERTY WITH TDOT, THE CITY, US AND TDOT HAVE ALL BEEN INVOLVED IN HOW TO FREE UP SOME LANES AND SOME TRAFFIC, INCLUDING DO CELL LANES AND SOME OTHER TURN LANES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED AND SHOWN BY A TDOT EXHIBIT THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT'S IN YOUR INFORMATION.

BUT, UM, WE'VE SPENT, WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT OF TIME DOING THAT AS WELL.

AND WE'VE WORKED WITH PECI MEAN, WE'VE WORKED WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, TO HELP US MAKE THINGS FLOW BETTER.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

WORK IN SOME OF THESE PLACES, WHETHER IT'S RESTAURANT SHOPS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WHERE IT ELIMINATES SOME OF THE PARKING.

SO THERE'S NO OPTION TO GET RID OF THE R THREE THREE AND MAKE IT ALL, UH, RETAIL SERVICES.

I, I CAN'T, I COULDN'T.

OR EVEN TOWN HOMES OR MORE OF THE LOFT SITUATION.

I JUST, I DON'T THINK AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT'S AN OPTION, I DON'T THINK IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS WHOLE PROCESS AROUND THESE, THIS MULTIFAMILY, AND AGAIN, I MEAN THERE'S AREAS IN, IN CENTRAL TEXAS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY PEOPLE THAT WANNA WORK BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA DRIVE TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO PARKING.

AND, AND PART OF THE R THREE, WE'RE HOPING THAT SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS DO COME OVER AND

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WE WANNA FREE UP SOME PARKING, NOT HAVE PARKING PROBLEMS. WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE LAID OUT WITH SIX, YOU KNOW, PARKING GARAGE, FOUR STORY PARKING GARAGE TO HELP ALLOW PLENTY OF PARKING FOR THE WEEKENDS AND FOR WEEKDAYS.

BUT, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART WE WANTED TO SEPARATE THE MULTIFAMILY WHERE IT STOOD ALONE.

IT WAS, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN POOLS, THEIR OWN AMENITIES, AND THIS IS REALLY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO ENJOY AND USE.

AND IF THEY WANT TO COME, THEN THEY'RE WELCOME TO IT.

BUT IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY GATED AND SEPARATED FROM THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHAT YOU JUST SAID WAS, THIS WAS A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT GREW INTO RS, NOT RS NEEDING MULTIFAMILY.

NO, I, I THINK, AND I'M SORRY IF, I MEAN, SOMETIMES I SAY THINGS THAT I DON'T MEAN OR SAY INCORRECTLY.

SO IT NEVER STARTED OUT TO BE A MULTIFAMILY TRACK AND THEN TO BUILD EVERYTHING AROUND IT, IT WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

ALWAYS.

I MEAN, I, I MEAN I BOUGHT THIS FROM HEB AND BARHOP OS IN MAY OF, WELL, SINCE I STARTED WORKING ON MAY OF 2021, CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY IN NOVEMBER OF 2021.

AND SO THEN WE REALLY, WE HAD ALREADY BEEN MEETING WITH THE CITY THE FIRST DAY OR FIRST WEEK I PUT THIS UNDER CONTRACT.

SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY CONSISTENTLY OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, ESPECIALLY AFTER CLOSING TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE TODAY.

BUT IT WAS ALWAYS TO BE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE WHOLE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY.

DOES THAT SAY, BUT I DIDN'T TAKE, I DIDN'T SAY I NEEDED MULTIFAMILY TO MAKE ALL THIS STUFF SUCCESS.

WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS COME TO KYLE AND BUILD THE BEST RETAIL ENVIRONMENT IN, IN KYLE, PERIOD.

I MEAN THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY DESIRE WAS TO BE, I DIDN'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE, I MEAN, AND I'M NOT KNOCKING ON THE DEVELOPERS, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER BRICK AND MORTAR, SAME THING.

I MEAN, MY IDEA, AND I MENTIONED THIS TO CITY COUNCIL IS TO, IS TO TRY TO RECRUIT AS MUCH LOCAL VENDORS AND STORES AND OPERATORS AS POSSIBLE, WHETHER IT'S RESTAURANT, RETAILER OR WHATEVER.

AND SO THAT WAS MY GOAL AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS.

I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER RETAILERS THAT SAID, WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHOP IT UP? AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANNA DO.

I WANNA MAKE AN IMPACT HERE WHERE IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY'S PROUD OF.

I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE GOOD PRODUCT HERE, EVERYBODY FROM, YOU KNOW, THE EAST OF ON ONE 50, THAT'S THEIR FIRST STOP.

AND SOUTH, YOU KNOW, SOUTH OF ONE 50, THAT'S GONNA BE THEIR FIRST STOP.

IF YOU HAVE AND NO NEED TO GO FURTHER NORTH, THAT'S GREAT.

AGAIN, I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING, UM, TRYING TO GET OUT ONTO ONE 50 OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THAT CURVE.

SO, SO LET ME, SO WHAT I'VE UNDERSTOOD, UM, THAT, I MEAN, MIKEY COURT IS, UM, NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.

IT'S ROUGH, IT NEEDS TO BE MM-HMM.

FIXED THE WHOLE STREET ITSELF.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT THAT THAT BECOMES MORE OF AN ENTRANCE AND AN EXIT THAN PROBABLY ONE 50 IF, IF YOU WILL.

I MEAN, I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA GO TO THE LIGHT, BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO THE LIGHT, THEY'RE PROBABLY COMING HOPEFULLY TO THE RETAIL ACROSS THE STREET.

SO I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY'S GONNA LEAVE THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE ONE 50 AND GO TO THE LIGHT AND COME OUT ONE 50 AND HEAD NORTH.

AND WE ARE, LIKE I SAID, TXDOT HAS ENCOURAGED US OR, OR ASKED US TO PROVIDE DESAL LANES AT ONE 50 WHERE IT GOES TO HILL STREET.

, UM, WE, THEY'VE ACTUALLY ASKED US TO PULL DOWN SOME CURBS ALONG ONE 50 WHERE IT GOES TO THE RED LIGHT.

SO WHERE IT'S, THERE'S MORE ST UM, MORE AREAS FOR PEOPLE TO LINE UP THEIR CARS AND GET INTO THE, TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE WHERE THE WATER'S GONNA BE AND THE WATER FEATURE, THE FOUNTAIN'S GONNA BE.

SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, IN DEPTH CONVERSATIONS WITH TEXT ON AND HOW TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THESE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT DOESN'T, UM, WHAT'D YOU CALL IT? MIGHTY COURT? WHAT WAS THE ROAD ON THE, UM, NORTH SIDE? MIKEY.

DOESN'T THAT NO, I'M SORRY.

HILLS, NOT MIKEY COURT.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

UM, DOESN'T THAT COME OUT ONTO THE PRIVATE DRIVE FOR THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY THERE RIGHT BEHIND DAIRY QUEEN? IS IT, AND THAT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE, IS IT NOT? UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, ALREADY PEOPLE USE IT TO BYPASS THE LIGHT AND COME DOWN FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, SO, SO YES, THAT SECTION, UH, NEXT TO MIKEY COURT, UM, THAT CONNECTS US PHILOMENA TO MM-HMM.

TO, THERE IS A, IS A PRIVATE DRIVE, UM, BUT IT, IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S CUT OFF OR ONLY USED FOR, FOR THOSE SPOTS.

EVERYBODY AT THE LIGHT OR TO FROM PHILOMENA SO THAT THEY CAN GO LEFT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO UP AND AROUND.

BELIEVE ME, THE PUBLIC USES IT.

YES, YES MA'AM.

THEY DO , AS I SAID, EITHER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BYPASS

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THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T THINK I CAN, OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH, YOU CAN GO.

NO, GO FOR IT.

I'LL GO ASK YOU.

GO FOR IT.

LASERS.

OH, I THINK THAT ROBERT'S WILL SAY I'M SUPPOSED TO GO LAST, BUT IF YOU INSIST, OH NO, JUST KIDDING.

GO PLEASE.

ALRIGHT.

IT SHOULD BE, SO ON, UH, THE PARCEL TWO DEVELOPMENT, THE WATER FEATURE THAT'S THERE.

YES SIR.

THERE'S AN EXISTING, I GUESS THE TRIBUTARY, UH, OR SOMETHING IS, YOU KNOW, FLOODING IS ALWAYS A CONCERN, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN IN THAT AREA.

YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH LEMAN ROAD BEING RAISED, IT RAINS SO MUCH AND WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT OUT WEST, IT ALL FLOWS DOWNHILL.

IT GETS SHUT DOWN.

SO BEING SO CLOSE THERE, IT'S LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THERE OR IMPERVIOUS COVER.

UM, PROBABLY GONNA ADD TO THAT.

WILL THAT WATER FEATURE THERE IS, IS THAT GONNA BE REALIGNED OR ANYTHING? OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE AN OPEN SPACE? LIKE WHAT EX LIKE, UH, UM, IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, SO THE WATER FEATURE ITSELF IS GONNA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THE CITY HAS ASKED US TO MAINTAIN ALL THAT WETLANDS AREA BACK THERE.

SO OUR IDEA IS TO CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE IT VERY USABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN THAT AREA.

SO, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY, REMOVE THE WETLANDS.

I'M SORRY, I SAID SO REMOVE THE WETLANDS, FILL IT IN THE WETLANDS.

I'M ASKING FROM A, FOR WHATEVER THE CITY AND THE ENGINEERS WANT US TO DO, WE WANNA MAKE IT AS NICE AS POSSIBLE FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF THEY TELL US THAT WE NEED TO REMOVE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE SHRUBS THAT SHOULDN'T BE THERE THAT ARE CAUSING FLOODING ISSUES, THEN WE'LL REMOVE THEM.

BUT IT'S GONNA BE REALLY BETWEEN THE CIVIL ENGINEERS AND YOUR, YOUR ENGINEERS TO HELP GUIDE US TOO.

NO, I MEAN, NO, I MEAN, I'M ASKING FROM A, LIKE A, SO FROM A 4 0 4 STANDPOINT, SINCE IT'S THE WATERS OF THE US, IT'S, UH, SO YOU FILL IN THE WETLAND, YOU GOTTA GET A PERMIT FROM THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

IF YOU EXCEED A CERTAIN GO OVER 10TH OF AN ACRE, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT MITIGATION.

AND THEN BEING THAT THERE AREN'T ANY MITIGATION, I'M ASKING BECAUSE I DEAL WITH THIS A LOT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S KIND OF, I GUESS HAS THERE BEEN THOUGHT INTO THE WATER FEATURE THERE? UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE IMPACTING THE WETLANDS AND STUFF YEAH, I'M, I'M GONNA ENGINEER SPEAK FOR THIS.

NO, IT'S, IT'S ALL GOOD.

SO, UH, FOR THE RECORD, I'M CARRIE BRESSLER WITH TDI ENGINEERING.

UM, I'M A PROJECT MANAGER AT AT TDI AND I, UM, I THINK WHAT WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE KIND OF MIXING UP TWO THINGS.

THE WATER FEATURE IS ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO BE OUTSIDE OF THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN.

THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN CONDITION THERE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS A BACKWATER THAT BACKS UP FROM LAKE KYLE UP TO A SPECIFIC CONTOUR ELEVATION.

IT'S, IT'S MORE LIKE A BATHTUB.

THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE CREEK FLOW ELEMENT THAT COMES DOWN THE CHANNELS.

MM-HMM MM-HMM.

BUT THE PREDOMINANT HIGH, UM, LEVEL OF THE FLOODPLAIN IN THE HUNDRED YEAR EVENT, UM, COMES TO A PARTICULAR LINE ALONG THE BACK.

AND IF YOU SEE THE, THE PARKLAND AREA, THAT'S SORT OF THE FADED DOWN BLUE, UM, WHERE THE WHITE TRAIL IS ON THE, THE CREEK SIDE OF THAT IS WHERE THE FLOOD PLAIN IS.

AND SO ABOVE THAT IS NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

AND I THINK, UM, THE IDEA IS JUST TO, UH, BUILD THE VIBE TRAIL, RIGHT.

AND, UH, DO ANY DRAINAGE DEBRIS REMOVAL THAT'S REQUIRED.

UM, RIGHT.

AND DURING THE DESIGN THEN, UH, ANY 4 0 4 ISSUES WOULD BE IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, IN THE DESIGN PLAN PROCESS WHEN IT'S ENGINEERED, WHEN THE, WHEN IT'S ENGINEERED RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE LINES ON A PAPER KIND OF NO, NO.

AND I'M JUST ASKING.

I MEAN YEAH, WHETHER IT'S, BUT THE TRIBUTARY ITSELF WOULD BE, SINCE HAS A NEXUS TO THE LAKE KYLE, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A, IT'S, IT'S REGULATED BY THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS.

SO YOU GOTTA, SO YOU GOTTA GET A PERMIT, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE THE FLOODPLAIN OR, OR NOT.

UM, IT IS A REGULATED WATER.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU GET A PERMIT, I'M, WELL THAT ONLY APPLIES TO THE JURISDICTIONAL WATERWAYS.

SO AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONAL WOULD IDENTIFY THE LIMITS.

THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

UM, AND SO A TECH, OR NOT TECH, I'M DRESSING FROM THAT, BUT ALSO THE, THE ISSUE WITH THE, WITH FLOODING IN THE AREA, IT'S LIKE IT, THAT AREA TENDS TO, TENDS TO FLOOD A LOT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ADDING IMPERVIOUS COVER SO CLOSE TO LEAVING, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA JUST CONSTANTLY FLOODS ANYTIME THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA BE ADDRESSED.

UH, WELL IN THE DESIGN, UM, THE ENGINEER WOULD PREPARE A DRAINAGE ANALYSIS THAT WOULD MEET THE CITY OF KYLE STANDARDS.

UM, AND WE, AND PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE HAS, OUR ANALYSES HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONDUCTED.

UM, BUT THEY NEED TO BE BASED ON THE FINAL DESIGN.

YOU KNOW, THIS WAS JUST, THERE'S BEEN A LOT LIKE THREE YEARS WORTH OF WORK TO, TO TRY TO FIGURE THINGS OUT ENOUGH TO GET TO THIS PLAN, BASICALLY.

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NO, NO, I, I UNDERSTAND.

IT'S JUST, YEAH, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WOULD HATE TO, I MEAN, YEAH.

LIKE, I, I UNDERSTAND, I MEAN YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK, YOU KNOW, YOU GO INTO DEVELOPING SOMETHING AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HATE FOR A SURPRISE TO COME AT THE END LIKE, OH MAN, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.

AND FROM A FOREST FOREST STANDPOINT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GET A PERMIT AND LIKE, HEY, NOW, NOW THEY REQUIRE MITIGATION.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY MITIGATION BANKS IN YOUR AREA, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE $2 MILLION OF MITIGATION, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND, I MEAN, IT JUST TAKES YEARS AND YOU WON'T GET YOUR PERMIT UNTIL YOU HAVE AN APPROVED MITIGATION PLAN.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, HEY, MAYBE KINDA START THINKING ABOUT IT.

BUT I MEAN, YEAH, IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A LOT ANYWAYS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ADDRESSED, SO.

SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PLANS FOR ANY WORK DONE IN THE CREEK AREA.

DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I'M GOOD.

NO.

UM, SO I'LL JUST FIRE QUESTIONS OUT.

FEEL FREE TO ANSWER THEM OR, UM, YOU CAN, STAFF CAN ANSWER IT.

WHOMEVER IS BEST SUITED.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT WAS THAT, UM, THE, THE PONDS, NOT THE RUNOFF AREAS, BUT THE ACTUAL PONDS, I SEE THREE OF THEM ON THE ILLUSTRATION HERE.

UM, I LIKE WATER.

I THINK WATER FEATURES ARE LOVELY.

UM, I DO HEAR A LOT FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW THEY DON'T THINK THE CITY IS USING WATER IN THE MOST RESPONSIBLE WAY.

AND, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHATTER ABOUT A, UM, PARK THAT WE HAVE HERE FOR VETERANS THAT HAS A NICE WATER FEATURE AND PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE USE OF WATER FOR THAT.

AND SO I'M QUITE CONCERNED THAT IF THE CITY WATER IS BEING USED TO FILL PONDS HERE, IF THEY'RE NOT EVEN HAPPY ABOUT WATER BEING USED TO HONOR VETERANS, I, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A TOUGH SELL.

SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU KNOW YET WHERE THIS WATER WOULD COME FROM TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS ARE FULL AND LOOKING NICE ALL THE TIME? YEAH, SO WHAT WE'VE SAID WE WANTED TO DO IS TRY TO DO SOME WATER COLLECTION, UH, MEANS ON TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS WATER CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE ON ALL, ALL THESE PONDS.

SO IT WASN'T, THE IDEA IS NOT TO COME IN HERE AND USE CITY WATER TO FILL 'EM.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT CONDENSATION, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RUNOFF, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FILTERING THE WATER TO MAKE IT CLEANER.

I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE ENVISIONING KIDS AROUND THERE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FEEDING DUCKS AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WILDLIFE'S AROUND DOGS.

SO OUR IDEA IS TO KEEP IT SAFE AND, AND, AND TRY TO GET WATER THERE THAT, UM, IS BEING CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH THAT IT'S NOT RUNNING OFF.

WE WANNA USE THE BEST LINERS THAT CAN CONTAIN IT AND DON'T, YOU KNOW, UM, FILTER THROUGH TO A COURSE UNDER LAYER, UM, UNDERNEATH IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING TOWARDS.

AND WE'VE TALKED TO THE CITY QUITE A BIT ABOUT.

BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THIS APPROVED, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE I CAN'T PULL ALL THESE PROFESSIONALS IN.

I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY HAD ALL THESE PROFESSIONALS.

I MEAN, I'VE GOT TWO ENGINEERING FIRMS AND ARCHITECTS AND YOU NAME IT, LAND PLANNERS.

BUT I MEAN, WE'RE JUST WAITING TO GET THIS APPROVED THROUGH YOU WHERE WE CAN SAY, OKAY, GO DO YOUR WORK.

AND BASED ON OUR COMMENTS AND CONVERSATION WITH CITY STAFF, WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE WITH THE WATER FEATURES.

AND WE REALIZE THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE WATER.

WE LIKE THE LOOK OF WATER.

WE'RE HOPING THE CITY, YOU KNOW, ENJOYS THE, THE FEATURES AS WELL.

BUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA DO ALL OUR BEST TO MAKE THIS THE BEST, UM, DEVELOPMENT HERE IN KYLE AND WHERE EVERYBODY ENJOYS IT.

SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN OUR PLAN ALL ALONG.

DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? I DON'T KNOW.

REALLY DIDN'T KNOW IF I GAVE YOU ANY RIGHT ANSWERS.

'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S MORE OF A CIVIL ENGINEER AND THAT'S OUTTA KIND OF MY PAY GRADE.

I MEAN, I JUST KNOW THAT THERE'S SEVERAL OF THESE AROUND AUSTIN THAT DO REALLY WELL AND, AND ARE GREAT AMENITIES.

AND I JUST THINK THAT IT WAS A GREAT ADD TO THIS TO AGAIN, OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC FOR SURE.

UH, I JUST, I WANNA ENCOURAGE, UM, IF THIS GETS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN TO NOT USE CITY WATER.

'CAUSE IF YOU USE CITY WATER, YOU WILL NEVER HEAR THE END OF IT FROM PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN.

THEY WILL UNDERSTOOD.

I'VE BEEN WATCHING Y'ALL'S COMMENTS BACK WITH SAN MARCUS AND BACK OKAY.

ON TV.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE Y'ALL ARE COMING FROM.

PERFECT.

ARE JUST GONNA BE, BASICALLY YOU'RE GONNA TAKE AN ELEVATOR UP OR TWO ELEVATORS UP AND YOU'RE GONNA GO UP, YOU'RE GONNA GO INTO A HALLWAY AND IT'S GONNA BE ONE OPEN AREA THAT'S GONNA HAVE A BEDROOM, A KITCHEN, AND A, YOU KNOW, 11 AREA.

UM, SO ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, THE, THE PUD USES THE TERMINOLOGY OF MULTIFAMILY FLATS QUITE A BIT.

THAT'S NOT A, A PHRASE THAT WE USE IN THE ORDINANCES RIGHT NOW.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT, WHEN Y'ALL TALK ABOUT A MULTI-FAMILY FLAT, WHAT IS THAT? SO THREE YEARS AGO YOU HAD A, A CITY MANAGER THAT WANTED THEM TO BE FLATS, AND THAT TERM CAME UP AND WE SAID, IF YOU WANT FLATS TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL, WE'LL GIVE YOU FLATS.

AND SO THE IDEA IS TO BUILD, UM, ON ONE OF THE BUILDINGS FACING KINDA THE AMPHITHEATER IS BUILD INDIVIDUAL UNITS.

I THINK WE'RE SHOWING 12, RIGHT? 15 THAT

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AND SO THAT WAS THE IDEA.

AND WHETHER THAT WAS FOR RENT OR FOR SALE WE'RE KIND OF FLEXIBLE.

SAME THING HAPPENED WITH THE TOWN HOMES AROUND THE GARAGES OR THOSE TWO WATER FEED FEATURES.

UM, THE CITY ASKED, COULD THIS BE FOR SALE INSTEAD OF FOR RENT? WE SAID ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, IF IT, IF IT HELPS BUILD AFFORDABILITY AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE 'CAUSE HOUSES ARE GOING SO, YOU KNOW, GETTING SO EXPENSIVE, THEN WE'D LOVE TO HAVE TOWN HOMES AROUND THERE AND GIVE PEOPLE THE AVAILABILITY TO BUY 'EM AT, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PRICE POINT IS.

IT'S THREE 50 OR FOUR 50 OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS.

SO RIGHT NOW BY THE WATER FEATURES, THOSE ARE GONNA BE TOWN HOMES AND THEN BY THE, UM, AMPHITHEATER VIBE SPOT.

THAT'S MORE OF A, MORE LIKE AN APARTMENT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO OWN PERHAPS INSTEAD OF SOMETHING THAT YOU RENT.

WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SAID NOT SURE YET.

ONE, 100% WHAT WE CAN DO THERE.

IT WE'RE, BUT WE'RE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT.

IF PEOPLE SAY, HEY, WE WANNA BUY A FLAT AND IT'S $250,000 AND WE SAY IT'S YOURS, FINE.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER, SO TO SPEAK.

SO I'M NOT, I MEAN, I'M GONNA MAKE SURE IT MATCHES WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND IT'S GONNA HAVE THE AMENITIES.

UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT'S ON HERE, THAT, UM, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A GARAGE, UM, A RENTAL AND SALES GOLF CART AREA SO PEOPLE CAN IN THE GARAGE.

SO PEOPLE CAN COME OVER HERE, PARK THEIR CARS IN THE GARAGE, GO RENT ONE FOR A DAY, RUN AROUND TOWN OR BUY ONE, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

BUT THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE KIND OF CLAIMING.

IT'S KIND OF A VIBE STOP TO GET PEOPLE HERE.

UM, SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I COULD ADD TO THAT.

I THINK JASON DID A GREAT JOB OF PRESENT YOU WITH EVERYTHING.

SO I THINK YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, POSSIBLY.

WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP HIM, UM, REALLY WHAT'S THAT? I SAID REALLY, REALLY? YEAH.

I MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

UH, OKAY.

A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.

AND, UH, I NOTICED THAT FOR THE RS ZONE, THE WAY THE PUTT IS PHRASED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MAXIMUM OF 39 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

UH, WOULD, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM NUMBER THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH? IF WE WANTED TO CODIFY THAT IN, IN THE P SAY A MINIMUM OF THIS NUMBER? IS THERE A NUMBER THAT YOU WOULD ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE? MM-HMM.

UM, I THINK WE'RE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT, THE KEEP IN MIND.

SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD LARGER UNITS, AND WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE LARGER UNITS, THEN YOU GOT TO A PRICE POINT OF, I MEAN, I WAS WORRIED ABOUT GETTING TO A FIVE OR SIX OR 800,000 TOWN ON 'EM BECAUSE THEY WERE SO LARGE.

AND SO I KIND OF SQUEEZED THOSE DOWN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE AFFORDABLE IN THIS AREA FOR THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT ARE THERE.

BUT EVEN THE FLATS FOR THAT MATTER, I MEAN, IF THE FLATS, IF WE GOT RID OF THE FLATS, IT'S NOT A DEAL KILLER FOR ME WHATSOEVER.

UM, THE IDEA WAS TO, YOU KNOW, TO SEE IF THE RESIDENTS WANTED THEM THAT LOOKED CLOSE BY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE ELIMINATED THOSE AND PUT OFFICE UP THERE OR SOMETHING ELSE, SOME OTHER TYPE OF RETAIL, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO THAT AT ALL.

THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I PERSONALLY LOVE THE, THE MIXING OF THE USES.

I WANT THE RESIDENTIAL THERE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LEGAL SPEAK, IF SOMETHING SAYS, OH, THERE'S A MAXIMUM OF THIS, BUT THERE'S NO RULE ABOUT A MINIMUM, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING THE RESIDENTIAL THERE DOWN THE ROAD IF, IF THE PLANS WERE TO NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.

I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT MIX OF USE IN THE PARCEL.

SO CORRECT ME PER WE HAVE MINIMUM OF 20, MINIMUM OF 20 IS WHAT'S IN THERE NOW? NO, NO.

HE GOT SWITCHED TO A MAXIMUM.

A MAXIMUM.

OH, I GOT SWITCHED FROM A MINIMUM TO A MAXIMUM.

I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT .

GOOD, GOOD.

SORRY.

UM, SO YES, UH, THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSAL HAD A, UH, A MINIMUM OF 24 PARCELS, I BELIEVE.

UM, THEN THE, WE ADDED THE FLATS, UH, SO THAT, THAT GOT US TO 39.

UM, WE HAD SOME INTERNAL STAFF DISCUSSIONS WHETHER IT SHOULD BE MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM.

UH, I THINK WE WENT WITH MAXIMUM 'CAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE DIDN'T GO OVER THAT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT 50 16.

IT KIND OF BECAME A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT.

UM, I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER KIN WAS CONSIDERING WAS, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE WITH LIKE MINIMUM OF 20 MAXIMUM OF TH TO GET A RANGE? ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK, I THINK SHE'S JUST TRYING TO GET SOME, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY.

PLACE THAT I COULD WALK TO TO GET, YOU KNOW, A CAN OF TOMATOES OR, UM, SOME BANANAS OR A BOTTLE OF WINE TO HAVE WITH MY DINNER THAT I'M COOKING AT HOME IN MY TOWN HOME OR A MULTIFAMILY FLAT OR IN MY APARTMENT.

COOL.

THANK YOU JASON.

THANK YOU MR. UM, OKAY.

MY LAST QUESTION IS PROBABLY DIRECTLY FOR THE, THE STAFF.

UM, FOR THE PROHIBITED USES CONVENIENCE STORE IS CURRENTLY ON THAT LIST.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW, WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS PLACE, IF I WERE TO LIVE HERE, I WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING A

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UM, WHY, WHY NO CONVENIENCE STORES? AND IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO, UM, TO GET THOSE STAFF OR OWNER STAFF PROBABLY, UM, I THINK GENERALLY THIS IS OUR, OUR KIND OF TYPICAL, UH, LIST.

UM, THESE ARE USES THAT I THINK, UH, COUNCILS KIND OF DIRECTED STAFF TO SAY, HEY, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE AMOUNT OF, OF THESE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE DIVERSITY.

UM, LESS CAR WASHES, LESS LESS GAS STATIONS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS THEM WITHIN SO FAR, UM, CONVENIENCE STORES HAS BEEN PART OF THAT BECAUSE NORMALLY IT'S VERY RARE IN TEXAS THAT, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH A GAS STATION.

YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF STANDALONE CONVENIENCE STORES IN, IN JUST OUR NECK OF THE WOODS.

UH, OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT'S PRETTY PERFECTLY NORMAL HERE, NOT SO MUCH.

UH, SAME WITH GAS STATIONS.

YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF GAS STATIONS THAT ARE JUST SO LOW WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF CONVENIENCE.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GENERALLY WHY WE PUT THOSE IN THERE.

UM, IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, SOMETHING IN THERE, YOU KNOW, MORE GENERALLY THAT'S A RETAIL, A CONVENIENCE STORE IS A RETAIL USE.

UM, IF YOU WANTED TO, TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT, THAT AS, AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT OPENING UP FOR GAS STATIONS, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S STAFF'S BIG CONCERN.

UM, THAT JUST KIND OF ANY ONE OF THESE USES KIND OF CHANGE THE LOOK AND FEEL OR CAN AFFECT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO DELETE MAYBE CONVENIENCE OR ALLOW CONVENIENCE STORE, DELETE IT FROM THIS LIST, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE JUST SAY CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT GAS OR, OR IF WE JUST SAY GENERAL RETAIL AND WE DON'T REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE SELLING, WHETHER IT'S FOOD, HAIR PRODUCTS, I MEAN, WE COULD KIND OF GO THAT WAY.

BUT, UM, I'D HAVE TO TALK TO, YOU'D HAVE TO TALK TO, I'M OPEN TO THAT ACTUALLY.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY HAVE ALL THESE, UH, BLUE, WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? ROYAL BLUE LITTLE GROCERY STORES DOWNTOWN IN SEVERAL AREAS IN AUSTIN.

SO I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I'M, I'M DEFINITELY OPEN FOR THAT.

I THINK IT SHOULD BE WITH EVERYBODY THAT'S LIVING AROUND HERE AND GOING TO WORK OR WHATEVER.

I KNOW THERE'S A SPROUTS GOING DOWN ONE 50, BUT STILL I LIKE GOING TO A SMALLER STORE THAN THE LARGER STORE MYSELF.

IT'S JUST EASY WHEN YOU NEED TO RUN, GET THINGS ON A WHIM, OH SHOOT, I FORGOT THIS.

AND THEN YOU CAN POP OVER AND GET IT.

AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT HOW TO KEEP CARS OFF OF THE ROAD.

IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE A TRIP TO THE STORE EACH TIME YOU NEED SOMETHING, THEN MM-HMM.

THAT COULD ADD TO CONGESTION THERE.

YOU JUST WANNA WALK AND GET A BOTTLE OF WINE.

UM, AND ALONG THAT SAME LINE, NOW THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, I'M WONDERING IF THAT DRIVE THROUGH USE IS, MAKES THE MOST SENSE THERE.

'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF CARS GOING IN AND OUT ROUTINELY, AND THAT COULD ADD TO THE, TO THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD VERSUS A USE WHERE YOU GO AND YOU, IT'S A, A DESTINATION WHERE YOU STAY FOR A BIT INSTEAD OF JUST COMING IN AND OUT WITH CARS.

ARE YOU, SO YOU'RE TALKING TO THE ONE BEFORE THE POND, RIGHT? TO THE SOUTH OF THE POND? YES, SIR.

SO THE IDEA BEHIND THAT ONE WAS WE HAD SOUTH SIDE BARBECUE OUT OF, WHERE ARE THEY? OUT OF BASTROP.

SO THEY WERE LOOKING, BUT THEY WANTED TO BE ON 35 AND THEY WANTED TO STANDALONE DRIVE THROUGH.

AND I SAID, NO, I DIDN'T WANT A STANDALONE DRIVE THROUGH ON THE LARGE PARCEL.

I, SO WE THREW THAT IN THERE.

IT'S KIND OF A LAST MINUTE AD.

MY THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A COFFEE SHOP OR IT COULD BE, UM, UH, A VET CLINIC WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU DROP OFF YOUR DOG FOR DAYCARE ALL DAY OR WHATEVER, GET SHOTS AND PICK HIM BACK UP AND HE'S GROOMED OR WHATEVER.

AND SO IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT I LIKE TO HAVE IT.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO AGAIN, WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND, AND YOU KNOW, STAFF SAYS, HEY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE DON'T WANT IT.

THEN IT'S GONE.

I'LL PUT SOMETHING ELSE THERE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.

VICE CHAIR DE LORI.

JUST, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION, UH, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED IT.

IN THE PACKAGE HERE SOMEWHERE, THE, THE HOTEL, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A TENANT COME IN TO DO THAT OR YOU'RE ENCOURAGING A, UH, A HOTEL LEADER TO COME AND BUILD ON YOUR SITE? HOW, HOW IS THAT GONNA WORK.

WE'VE, I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT AMENITY.

I'VE HAD SOME CITY STAFF SAY THAT THAT WOULD, THAT AS WELL.

I'M TRYING TO GET, I'M, I'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH WINDHAM AND MARRIOTT, BUT I'M, UH, NOT GONNA SELL IT TO A, A FLAG THAT I DON'T WANT THAT.

I THINK, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE AN BE AN AMENITY TO THIS AREA.

SO I'M NOT GONNA THROW, AND I DON'T WANT TO SLING NAMES OUT, BUT YOU, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE HOTELS I'M NOT PUTTING IN THERE.

THAT'S THE ONES I WAS THINKING ABOUT.

I'M LOOKING AT WINDHAM AND MARRIOTT, THOSE MY FIRST TWO PICKS.

BUT, UM, IF I HAD IT MY WAY, I'D HAVE A, YOU KNOW, ROOFTOP RESTAURANT, MAYBE WITH A LOUNGE,

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BUT WHO KNOWS.

I'VE GOT, I DO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WORKING RIGHT NOW.

ANY, ANYBODY ELSE? NO.

UM, SO WE ARE NOW TASKED WITH MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO START ON THAT.

UM, MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE APPROVE WITH THE, UH, STIPULATION THAT WE REMOVE THE CONVENIENCE STORE FROM THE PROHIBITED USES THAT THE CITY EXERCISES OVER THE, OVER THE OWNER.

UM, AND, AND JUST FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION, YEAH.

THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION THAT, UH, SOUNDS LIKE CONVENIENCE STORES WERE OKAY IN Y'S MIND AS LONG AS IT DIDN'T HAVE GAS.

UM, SO, SO MAYBE WE CHANGE THAT TO EITHER REMOVE IT OR, OR ALLOW CONVENIENCE STORES WITHOUT GAS.

I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION IF IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONE IT IS.

SO I'LL, I'LL CLARIFY.

AND THE, UH, THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR TO TO REMOVE CONVENIENCE STORE, BUT STIPULATE, UH, IN THE AGREEMENT THAT, UH, A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH NO GAS WOULD BE PERMITTED FOR TO THAT EFFECT.

SO FOR THE LIST OF PROHIBITED USES, COULD WE JUST AMEND CONVENIENCE STORE TO SAY CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GAS? YES.

WOULD THAT WORK FOR YOU? WOULD THAT WORK FOR STAFF? YES.

YEAH, POSSIBLY.

I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT.

WE GOT THERE BACKWARDS, BUT WE GOT THERE.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE, UH, THAT I SEE.

AND THAT'S MY MOTION PUT FORWARD.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PUD WITH THE CHANGE OF ADDING, UM, WITHOUT GAS TO, OR ADDING WITH GAS TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE PROHIBITED USE.

IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND? OKAY.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS FROM THE CROWD OUT? JUST, JUST A, A QUICK STATEMENT.

I THINK THE OWNER'S DONE DUE DILIGENCE TO, UH, CONFORM TO OUR, OUR CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE PUT THROUGH, UH, HELPING WITH THE VIBE TRAVEL WITH, UH, THE VIBE NODE, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, IS IT PERFECT? NO, BUT I THINK IT'S BETTER THAN MOST AND, UH, UM, I THINK, UH, IT DESERVES TO BE, UH, BUILT HERE.

I THINK WILL BE A, A NICE ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN KYLE.

ARE THERE COMMENTS? OKAY.

UM, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND SOME ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO THE P SO I'M GOING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A MINIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR THE RS ZONE OF 20.

UM, TO GO ALONG WITH THE MAXIMUM THAT'S LISTED OF 39.

UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT, UM, TO SECTION E TWO, UM, ABOUT THE VIBE TRAIL AND, UM, VIBE SPOT.

IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY SAYING THAT THE, UM, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE LAST RETAIL BUILDING IS DEPENDENT ON HAVING THAT VIBE TRAIL AND VIBE SPOT COMPLETED.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE LATE IN THE GAME.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT ORDER THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD THINGS IN AT, BUT, UM, I'M THINKING IF I'M IN RESIDENTIAL THERE, YOU SHOULD HAVE, UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO A VIBE TRAIL IF, IF YOU LIVE THERE.

SO I'M GOING TO, UM, RECOMMEND THAT WE MODIFY THE PUD TO SAY THAT THE, THE VIBE TRAIL HAS TO BE COMPLETE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE R THREE THREE.

UM, AND THEN FOR THE VIBE SPOT, UM, THAT HAS TO BE COMPLETE TO, UH, I DUNNO, MAYBE FIF 50% OF THE BUILDINGS AROUND THE VIBE SPOT WHEN THOSE ARE READY FOR OCCUPANCY, THE VIBE SPOT WOULD NEED TO BE SURE READY TO GO.

I THINK OUR INTENTION IS TO PUT ON ALL THE BIKE SPOT THE TRAILS EARLY.

IT'S, IT'S TO BE EARLY ON JUST BECAUSE, OKAY, ONCE WE START, WE HAVE ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, TRUCKS AND, AND, UH, EQUIPMENT MOVING BACK AND FORTH.

OUR INTENTION IS TO GET THAT DONE SOONER THAN LATER.

AND IT'S, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF PHASE ONE

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AND THREE.

SO THAT'S FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA START.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'RE STARTING.

AND I'M DEFINITELY AGREEABLE TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING HERE.

AND, OKAY.

SO LET ME, LET ME WORK ON MY LIST HERE.

DO WE NEED TO VOTE SECOND, UH, SEPARATE VOTE FOR HER AMENDMENTS? OR DOES HE NEED TO RESCIND HIS AND ADD HERS TO IT? THIS IS A MOTION TO AMEND IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

IT'S A MOTION TO AMEND HIS MOTION SO WHEN SHE'S FINISHED WITH HER MOTION, IF IT GETS A SECOND, YOU VOTE ON THE MOTION TO AMEND AND THEN YOU VOTE ON MOTION AS THAT'S I, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST MAKING SURE ABOUT.

UM, I'M JUST TAKING MY NOTES SO I CAN MAKE SURE I SAY ALL THESE THINGS THE RIGHT WAY WHEN I READ IT BACK, OR I COULD JUST WING IT AND TRY TO REMEMBER WHAT I SAID.

LET'S DO THAT FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME.

UM, THE LAST ONE THAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT, UH, I KNOW THAT I'M AMENDING A MOTION RIGHT NOW AND I'M SAYING A LOT OF WORDS THAT ARE NOT GOING INTO THE AMENDMENT, BUT I JUST WANNA GIVE SOME BACKGROUND FOR WHY I'M GONNA SAY WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY.

UM, THE ARTIFICIAL TURF SECTION HAS GOT ME A LITTLE BIT, UM, A LITTLE BIT WARY.

I'VE COME TO, UH, COME ON SOME LITERATURE RECENTLY THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS AROUND HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT RELATED TO CERTAIN ARTIFICIAL TURFS AND THE BACKING USED UNDERNEATH THAT AND THE FILLS.

UM, THINGS LIKE CARCINOGENS, UM, THE, THE HEAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GET HOTTER THAN ASPHALTS.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S MICROPLASTICS ALSO IN THAT STUFF, AND WE ARE QUITE CLOSE TO A FLOODPLAIN.

SO, UM, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THE ARTIFICIAL TURF IS SAFE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND IT'S SAFE FOR PEOPLE AND PETS OR PEOPLE THAT WILL COME INTO CONTACT WITH IT.

SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD SAY THE ARTIFICIAL TURF SHOULD BE LIMITED TO PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE EXPECTED TO TRAFFIC, WHERE IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE A DECORATIVE GREEN SPACE AREA, UH, TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF THAT USE.

SO THOSE ARE THE, THE THREE CHANGES THAT I WAS GONNA SAY.

SO THE MOTION, UH, THE AMENDMENTS THAT I'M RECOMMENDING ARE A MINIMUM ADDING THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM OF 20 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE RS PARCELS.

UH, THAT THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR R THREE THREE IS DEPENDENT ON THE VIBE TRAIL BEING COMPLETED AND THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE BUILDINGS AROUND THE VIBE SPOT.

UM, UH, 50% OF THE BUILDINGS ARE ON THE VIBE SPOT.

GOOD LORD.

WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? I DON'T KNOW.

UH, ARE YOU WORKING ON THE ARTIFICIAL NO.

CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WILL BE ISSUED FOR ANY, FOR ANY MORE THAN 50% OF THE BUILDINGS ARE ON THE VIBE SPOT UNTIL THE VIBE SPOT IS COMPLETED.

AND, UH, THE, YEAH, THE LAST PART ABOUT THE, UM, USE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF.

BE LIMITED TO PLACES THAT ARE NOT FOR, UM, REGULAR FOOT OR ANIMAL TRAFFIC.

I'LL SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT TERRIBLE THING I JUST SAID.

SORRY.

I'M OKAY WITH ALL OF THAT EXCEPT THE ARTIFICIAL TURF.

I THINK ARTIFICIAL TURF IS DEVELOPED AND IS FINE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.

WE HAVE IT IN OUR AREAS.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH THAT.

I, UM, YEAH, IT'S PERMITTED BY THE CITY.

IT'S PERMITTED BY MY SUBDIVISION.

ENCOURAGED ACTUALLY.

SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR REFERENCE WAS FOR THAT, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE AN UNDUE RESTRICTION ON THE DEVELOPER.

UM, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY COOLER THAN CONCRETE AND, UH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO KILL YOUR AMENDMENTS BASED ON ONE, ONE THING, SO I'LL THINK ABOUT IT.

I'LL LET YOU PONDER ON THAT.

UM, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED LATER, I CAN SHOW YOU SOME OF THE, THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS READING ON THIS.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO AMEND? OKAY.

'CAUSE WE JUST ADDED EVEN MORE TURF IN OUR PART.

I KNOW.

BUT YEAH, BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING YEAH.

WE FILL AND EVERYTHING WAS GOOD FOR IT.

SO, YEAH.

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UH, SO LET'S VOTE ON THAT MOTION TO AMEND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THOSE CHANGES.

I'M NOT GONNA NAME THEM ALL AGAIN UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, PLEASE SAY I, I, I, OKAY.

ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY.

NAY, NAY.

NA.

OKAY, SO THE AMENDMENT FAILS.

AND, UH, SO GOING BACK TO DISCUSSION ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ADDING WITH GAS TO THE CONVENIENCE STORE LINE FROM PROHIBITED USES.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? NO.

UM, I GUESS WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO COUNCIL TO, UH, APPROVE THIS P WITH THE DISCUSSED AMENDMENT, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, PLEASE SAY NAY.

NAY.

WE APPROVE THAT BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ONE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

ALL RIGHTY.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE NOW AT ITEM NUMBER SIX, ADJOURNMENT.

WE, I'M GONNA GO THE LONG WAY TODAY.

UM, WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHE AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SERRATO TO ADJOURN.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.