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[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]
TIME IS SEVEN O'CLOCK ON JULY 2ND, 2024.AND WE'LL NOW CALL THIS KYLE CITY COUNCIL, UH, MEETING TO ORDER ALL THOSE PLEASE RISE FOR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND CHOOSING REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, THE LIBERTY OF JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WILL THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROW.
[II) Approval of Minutes]
UH, AT THIS TIME.UM, COULD WE, UM, HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? MAYOR PRO TIM RIZZO.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 18TH, 2024, UH, THREE O'CLOCK SPECIAL MEETING, AND AT FIVE 30, THE SPECIAL MEETING ON THAT MINUTES.
AND ALSO THE REGULAR MEETING FOR SEVEN O'CLOCK ON JUNE 18TH, 2024.
[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
RIGHT AT THIS TIME WE'LL OPEN UP, UH, CITIZEN COMMENT.UM, WE'LL NOW OPEN CITIZEN COMMENT TO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM, PLEASE DO SO.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND, AND COUNSEL.
WE ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT ASSISTANT COMMENTS FORM AND YOU TURN 'EM IN EITHER INTO MYSELF OR THE CITY MANAGER.
I MEAN, CITY SECRETARY, SORRY.
THIS TIME WE HAVE JASON PAYNE, HONOR
I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE KYLE VFW, UH, POST NUMBER 12 0 5 8.
UH, JUST WANNA GIVE, UH, INFORMATION ON OUR EVENTS COMING UP TO SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SUPPORT OUR, OUR, UH, VETERANS COMING UP.
UM, FIRST OFF, WE ARE, UH, DOING A TELETHON FOR THE, UM, ANNUAL, IT'S A SECOND ANNUAL SERVICE DOG TELETHON.
UH, WE'VE GOT SOME FLYERS ABOUT IT.
UH, AND WHAT THIS IS, IS THIS IS TO PROVIDE, UH, NEEDED CANINE COMPANIONS TO VETERANS, UH, TO ASSIST THEM WITH WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE, PICKING STUFF UP IF SOMETHING FALLS.
UH, ADDRESSING ANY ISSUES WITH THEIR, UM, HEALTH, UH, NOTIFYING THEM THEIR BLOOD PRESSURE'S UNDER, UH, NOT IN CONTROL, DIABETES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE SERVICE ANIMALS THAT ARE SPECIALLY TRAINED FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL ON WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.
AND IT'S AT NO COST TO THE VETERAN THEMSELVES, BUT THERE IS COSTS THAT ALWAYS COME FROM TRAINING 'EM AND GETTING THE VETERAN, OF COURSE, TRAINED AS WELL.
UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD THE FIRST ONE WITH THE VFW AND THE STATE OF TEXAS.
AND WITH THAT, WE RAISED 22,000 IN ONE DAY.
AND THAT WAS ALL TO UNITE THESE ANIMALS WITH THEIR, UH, VETERANS.
UH, VETERANS HAVE TO SHOW UP TO A, KINDA LIKE A SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING.
AND THESE DOGS HAVE TO GO THROUGH EXTENSIVE TRAINING, JUST LIKE ANY CANINE, UH, PARTNER THAT YOU'D SEE OUT THERE.
UM, WE ARE ALSO GETTING READY FOR THE FIRST EVER VFW HAUNTED HOUSE.
IT'S GONNA BE AT THE VFW OFF OF VETERANS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MULTIPLE TWO, WELL, I SAY MULTIPLE, BUT TWO DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE THAT'S A LITTLE MORE SCARY FOR THOSE BRAVE AT HEART TO CHALLENGE IT.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE FOR THE YOUNGER, YOU KNOW, KIDS MAYBE WANTING TO TAKE A SEPARATE PATH.
NOT SO SCARY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ALL, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY OR EVERYBODY'S WELCOME.
WE'RE GOING DO UP THE WHOLE VFW INTO A PRETTY DECENT, UM, HAUNTED HOUSE.
WE HAVE LOTS OF DECORATIONS AND YOU'LL SEE LOTS OF US, UH, UH, VETERANS THERE, AS WELL AS SOME WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING SOME OTHERS TO BE, UH, UM, ZOMBIES IN LIKE OUR, WE'RE GONNA HAVE LIKE A ZOMBIE PARK AREA.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME, UH, PEOPLE DRESSED UP FOR ZOMBIES IN, IN THAT.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE VERY INTERESTING.
UM, WE ALSO WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY
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THAT EVERYBODY'S WELCOME TO COME EVERY FRIDAY AT EIGHT O'CLOCK TO THE KYLE VFW POST.WE HAVE A BREAKFAST, AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME IN, ENJOY SOME BRE BREAKFAST AND BE THERE WITH OUR, UH, LOCAL VETERANS AND EVERYTHING AND, AND DIFFERENT, WE HAVE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND LOCAL, UH, COMPANIES THAT WILL, THAT COME OUT AND SPONSOR, UH, THE BREAKFAST.
BUT IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, JUST COME IN, SIT DOWN, EAT, TALK, HAVE FUN.
UH, ALSO, UH, FOR ANY, UH, MORE UPDATES, PLEASE VISIT OUR KYLE VFW POST, UH, NUMBER 12 0 5 8, UH, ON FACEBOOK FOR ANY UPDATES.
RIGHT NEXT WE'VE GOT CONLEY ROBINSON.
I AM HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT APPEARS TO ME AS INCREDIBLY IRRESPONSIBLE SPENDING, UH, OF THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY.
OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, I'VE NOTICED MISUSE OF PUBLIC FUNDS BY YOU AND CITY STAFF.
UH, IT APPEARS THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN SPEND WHATEVER YOU WANT FOR ANY REASON YOU WANT, AND NO ONE CAN STOP YOU.
WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT IT, YOUR RESPONSE HAS BEEN, IT'S IN THE BUDGET AS IF THAT MAKES IT OKAY.
A $2,000 MEAL WITH A $400 TIP.
SERIOUSLY, DO YOU THINK WE AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION YESTERDAY, A US SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SAID IN AN EXPLANATION OF A DECISION THAT ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY.
AND I THINK THAT APPLIES TO OUR LEADERSHIP OF OUR CITY.
OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, I'VE WATCHED KYLE CITIZENS COME UP TO THIS PODIUM AND EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT OUR CITY, ONLY TO HAVE YOU IGNORE THEM AND CONTINUE TO RECKLESSLY SPEND OUR MONEY.
IT IS OUR MONEY AND YOU WORK FOR US.
AND NOW YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO AWARD YOURSELVES WITH FREE HEALTHCARE IN CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE CITY CHARTER, AND ONCE AGAIN, PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS CITY.
YOU MAY THINK THE VOTERS IN THIS CITY ARE SO APATHETIC THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT WE ARE BEGINNING TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY.
MORE AND MORE OF US ARE NOTICING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WE HAVE A TOOL THAT'S FAR GREATER AND EFFECTIVE THAN ANY CREDIT CARD YOU HAVE.
WE HAVE A VOTE THIS COMING NOVEMBER.
TWO OF YOU ARE UP FOR REELECTION, AND IN NOVEMBER, 2025, MORE OF YOU WILL BE UP FOR REELECTION.
WE ARE WATCHING YOU AND WE WILL RESPOND WITH OUR VOTE TO CURB CORRECT CORRUPTION IN THIS CITY.
AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME.
I AM NOT SURE IF I'M IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO ADDRESS THIS, BUT I WAS TOLD THAT THIS IS WHERE I SHOULD GO.
UM, I HAVE SOME ISSUES I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH WITH THE, UM, UTILITY DISTRICT IN REFERENCE TO, UM, MY TRASH SERVICE THAT I HAD CANCELED FOR SIX YEARS.
AND THEN I WENT TO REESTABLISH IT AND I WAS TOLD I OWED FOUR YEARS OF WASTEWATER BILLING THAT HAD NOT BEEN PAID, BUT I HAD NEVER BEEN BILLED FOR.
AND WHEN I ASKED WHY I WAS NOT BILLED FOR THAT AND WHY I NEEDED TO FIND A WAY TO REPAY THIS BEFORE I COULD GET MY TRASH SERVICE PICKED BACK UP AGAIN.
THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO BILL, WHICH I FIND CONFUSING.
AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO BILL BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TRASH SERVICE.
AND I SAID I DIDN'T HAVE TRASH SERVICE, BUT I STILL HAD WASTEWATER.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T TURN THAT OFF.
THEY SAID YES, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO BILL FOR THE WASTEWATER 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TRASH SERVICE.
I SAID, BUT YOU JUST CHECKED THE CAD SYSTEM TO SEE WHO THE TAXPAYER IS ON THIS PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE I CAN REESTABLISH MY SERVICES.
SO HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW WHO TO SEND A BILL TO? FOR MY WASTEWATER? I SAID I RECEIVED MY CITY TAXES AND MY COUNTY TAXES AND NOBODY HAD ANY TROUBLE FINDING ME THEN TO SEND ME MY BILLS.
WHY WAS THE BILL NOT SENT TO ME FOR MY WASTEWATER? THEY TOLD ME THAT IT WASN'T SENT.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TRASH SERVICE.
IT WAS GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES.
SO I HAD TO NOW COME UP WITH OVER
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$2,000 TO COME UP WITH, UH, TO PAY OFF MY WASTEWATER SO THAT I CAN HAVE MY TRASH SERVICE.AND I HAD TO COME UP WITH A PAYMENT PLAN.
MY PAYMENT PLAN EXPIRED AND I HAD MY TRASH CANS PICKED BACK UP AGAIN AND WENT BACK TO REESTABLISH A NEW CONTRACT OF REPAYMENT BECAUSE THE ONE THAT I FIRST CREATED WAS NOT GOING TO FULFILL THE BACK PAYMENT BEFORE IT EXPIRED.
SO I STARTED ANOTHER ONE AND I WENT THREE WEEKS WITHOUT TRASH SERVICE AND HAD TO PUT TRASH IN MY GARAGE BECAUSE THERE WAS CONFUSION OVER GETTING MY TRASH CANS REDELIVERED TO ME.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO CHANGE HOW THAT'S HANDLED BY THE UTILITY DISTRICT THAT'S FOR THE CITY.
'CAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MY WASTEWATER, WHICH CANNOT BE TURNED OFF, STILL HAS TO BE COLLECTED, IS TIED INTO MY TRASH BILL, WHICH CAN BE TURNED OFF.
AND I SAID, SO IF I LIVED IN MY HOUSE FOR 30 YEARS AND THEN DIED AND MY STEPSON TRIED TO SELL MY HOUSE, AND LET'S SAY THERE WAS A LIEN, I DUNNO IF THAT HAPPENS, YOU'D ONLY BE GETTING FOUR YEARS.
APPARENTLY THAT'S AS FAR BACK AS YOU CAN GO OF WASTEWATER WHEN YOU COULD HAVE BEEN GETTING 26 MORE YEARS OF BILLING IF YOU HAD SENT ME A BILL FOR MY WASTEWATER.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT GETS HANDLED OR WHAT CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE WAS AWARE THAT THIS EVEN HAPPENS, BUT I AM, BECAUSE NOW I, I OWE, STILL OWE OVER $1,800 THAT I HAVE TO PAY BACK FOR MY WASTEWATER SERVICE ON TOP OF MY CURRENT BILL THAT I'M PAYING FOR MY WASTEWATER AND MY TRASH.
SO JUST WANTS TO BRING THAT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION AND SEE IF THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED AND PERHAPS LOOKED INTO AND MAYBE SEND SOMEONE A BILL AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO LIVES AT THE RESIDENCE.
I SAID, SEND IT TO THE PROPERTY AND THE PERSON WHO'S LIVING AT THE PROPERTY CAN GIVE IT TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IF IT'S NOT THEM.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN SEND ME A TAX BILL AND YOU CAN CHECK THE TAX RECORDS TO SEE IF I'M ALLOWED TO REESTABLISH MY TRASH SERVICE, BUT YOU CAN TELL ME THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY TO BILL.
UH, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP HERE.
I HAVE AN EXHIBIT HERE AND I WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THIS PICTURE HERE IS FROM PLANO, TEXAS LAST YEAR WHERE THEY DINED OUT ON OUR MONEY TO THE TUNE OF OVER $2,000.
WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORCING CITY CREDIT CARDS AND REIMBURSEMENT POLICIES, WE ARE CONTINUALLY TOLD BY OUR CITY MANAGER THAT WE'LL FOLLOW POLICY.
IT CAN'T BE THE SAME POLICY ON READING THE CITY'S POLICY STATES AUTHORIZED CHARGES MUST BE REQUIRED OR NECESSARY WHEN CONDUCTING CITY BUSINESS TO THE DIRECT BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
THAT MEANS US CITIZENS WHILE TRAVELING ON SEEMINGLY POINTLESS JUNKETS.
THE PUBLIC RECORD SHOWS KYLE'S CITY OFFICIALS HAVE RUN UP EXTRAORDINARY CREDIT CARD DEBT BY LODGING AT SWANKY HOTELS AND DINING AT FIVE STAR RESTAURANTS.
WHO ARE Y'ALL TRYING TO IMPRESS, BY THE WAY? WHERE ARE THOSE WRITTEN SUMMARIES FOR THE STAY AT HOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SHARE WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS SUCH AS MIGUEL AND, UH, MICHAEL OVER HERE? HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD ABOUT ANY OF THOSE JUNKETS, WHAT, WHAT YOU FOUND OUT OR ANYTHING? SO IT'S NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY.
MY EXHIBIT A SHOWS A RECEIPT HERE FOR $183.
THERE'S A WRITTEN NOTATION STATED, THIS WAS FOR DINNER.
IT WAS ATTENDED BY FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THREE OF THEM ACCOMPANIED BY THEIR SPOUSES, PLUS THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS SPOUSE.
AN OPEN RECORDS SEARCH SHOWS NEGATIVE FOR ANY NOTICE OF POTENTIAL QUORUM AND NO MINUTES EXIST.
THIS WAS NOT A COST TO CONDUCTING CITY BUSINESS YET IT WAS CHARGED FOR THE CITY CREDIT CARD AND PAID FOR WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
THE NEXT RIP OFF IS, UM, EXHIBIT BI SHOW YOU TO LET, UH, SHOW YOU HAD ANOTHER RECEIPT FOR THE CITY'S JUNKET HELD LOCALLY WITH THE SEVEN FIVE MILES OF KYLE AT THE LOST PINES RESORT AND SPA IN MASTRO.
THIS FIVE STAR DINNER PARTY COSTS THE TAXPAYERS $805 AND 79 CENTS.
SO TONIGHT I'M CALLING FOR A TOWN MEETING TO BE SCHEDULED FOR CITIZENS WITH OUR CITY MANAGER BECAUSE THE CITY CHARTER BARS THE COUNCIL FROM INTERFERING AND THE CITY MANAGER'S DAY-TO-DAY SUPERVISION OF HIS DEPARTMENT HEADS AND STAFF.
THEREFORE, FOR ME, IT CAN ONLY BE A PERSONAL CAREER DECISION TO NEGLECT INSTRUCTING HIS STAFF AND DEPARTMENT HEADS TO VIGOROUSLY SCRUTINIZE AND ENFORCE IF NECESSARY ALL CITY POLICIES, PROCEDURES, CHARTER RULES TO THE VERY BEST OF HIS ABILITY TO ALLOW THESE CITIZENS WANT TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY MANAGER UNENCUMBERED
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BECAUSE HE CONTINUES TO ALLOW AND PROMOTE CREDIT CARD FRAUD, EVEN WITH SOME OF HIS OWN ABUSES, YET HAS ALWAYS MAINTAINED DEFENSE THAT KYLE'S CREDIT CARD POLICIES AND CHARTER RULES ARE BEING VIGOROUSLY APPLIED AND ENFORCED.THANK YOU MR. NEXT UP IS STEPHANIE MCDONALD.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN CASE YOU DID NOT ATTEND THE PRIDE THEME MARKET DAYS, WHICH BY THE WAY, I DIDN'T EITHER.
I UNDERSTAND THE TURNOUT IS LOW, WHICH MAKES, UM, ME RE REINFORCE THE FACT THAT THAT THEME WAS NOT NEEDED.
IT DOESN'T, WE DON'T NEED A THEME AT MARKET DAYS.
IN THIS CASE, IT ACTUALLY HURT THE VENDORS AND THE SHOPPERS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE MUSIC PROVIDED BY WAS PROVIDED BY A DJ AND IT CONTAINED ENTERTAINMENT THAT WAS NOT FAMILY FRIENDLY.
WHY ARE WE TRYING TO SEXUALIZE MARKET DAYS? WHAT IS THE POINT AND HOW DOES IT BENEFIT THE CITY AND AGENDA? ITEM 17, UM, IS REGARDING A HEALTHCARE PLAN, A HEALTHCARE ENDEAVOR FOR MINORS, JUVENILES.
I WANNA KNOW WHY THE CITY'S INTERJECTING ITSELF INTO THIS ENDEAVOR.
WHY NOT LEAVE THIS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE HAYES COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT? AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER ZIKA FOR MAKING AN EFFORT BY THIS PROPOSAL TO REIGN AN EXCESSIVE SPENDING BY THE COUNCIL.
I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO GO BACK TO 2020S PROCEDURES ONLY FOUR YEARS AGO BY CANCELING THE CREDIT CARDS.
REVOKING THE $500 A MONTH STIPEND EXPENSES SHOULD BE PLACED ON THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL'S PERSONAL CREDIT CARD AND SUBMITTED FOR REIMBURSEMENT BASED ON PROPER DOCUMENTATION AND ELIGIBILITY.
WHY WERE THE CREDIT CARDS NOT REVOKED WHEN THE STIPEND WAS ADDED? WHAT IS THE STIPEND FOR? SPEAKING OF STIPENDS, WHY DID DEPARTMENT HEADS, CITY EMPLOYEE DEPARTMENT HEADS NEED A $500 A MONTH? VEHICLE STIPEND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19.
I'M ALSO ASKING COUNSEL TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND BE ETHICAL AND RECONSIDER THE UNETHICAL MOVE TO GIVE YOURSELVES THE HEALTH INSURANCE.
FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, CITY EMPLOYEES.
HAVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAD ACCESS TO INSURANCE AT THEIR OWN EXPENSES.
REVERT TO THIS UNTIL THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE MEETS AND STAY WITHIN THE CHARTER.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK FOR A TOWN HALL MEETING.
IT'S FUTILE AND DISCOURAGING TO MAKE COMMENTS DURING THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING AND NOT GET ANSWERS.
WHEN WILL OUR CONCERNS BE ADDRESSED? THERE ARE MANY RESIDENTS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND RECEIVE A RESPONSE.
I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY'S COFFEE AND CHATS AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZIKA'S UH, MEETINGS.
BUT WE NEED A TOWN HALL MEETING WHERE CITIZENS CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER.
I'M CALLING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY AND I WANNA THANK COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA AND TOBIAS FOR THEIR STANCE.
STANDARDS AND VALUES ARE IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN LEADERSHIP.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK AGENDA ITEMS 17, 18, 19 TO MOVE TO THE TOP OF THE DISCUSSION.
UM, I'M ALSO ASKING FOR THE CITY TO BUDGET FOR POSITION OF CITY AUDITOR, AUDITOR THAT WOULD BRING TRUTH, TRANSPARENCY, AND TRUST BETWEEN THE CITIZENS AND THE CITY.
IT WOULD BE A PLACE OF SAFETY FOR WHISTLEBLOWERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
UM, IF WE HAVE MONEY FOR THINGS LIKE SENDING FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, FIVE CITY EMPLOYEES ON A TRIP TO LOOK AT ROUNDABOUTS COSTING THE CITY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS RECENTLY OR THIS YEAR SO FAR, CITY COUNCIL SPENT OVER ABOUT 50,000 ON TRAVEL.
THE, UH, DECISIONS YOU MAKE AFFECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
I WANNA START BY ASKING IF WE CAN MOVE UP AGENDA ITEMS 18, 19 AND 23 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS YVONNE FLORES KALE.
NOT JUST AS A RESIDENT OF KYLE, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE AND INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR CITY IS A PLACE WE ALL CALL HOME.
A PLACE WE CHERISH FOR ITS DIVERSITY, ITS OPPORTUNITIES, AND ITS PROMISE OF A BETTER LIFE.
RECENT EVENTS AND ONGOING CONCERNS HAVE HIGHLIGHTED INSTANCES WHERE TRUST BETWEEN CITY LEADERSHIP AND RESIDENTS HAS BEEN BETRAYED.
LIZ HAVE BEEN TOLD, AND VOTES COULD HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED.
AND APPROPRIATE SEXUAL BEHAVIORS AS WELL AS A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY HAS VIOLATED AND UNDERMINED THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR CITY GOVERNANCE.
I URGE EACH OF YOU TODAY AS I DID TWO WEEKS AGO, AS WELL AS THE TWO WEEKS BEFORE THAT, TO CONFRONT THE ISSUES THAT STRIKE AT THE CORE OF OUR VALUES, THE NEED FOR GREATER ETHICAL STANDARDS AND BETTER TRANSPARENCY.
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RESIDENTS, WE ENTRUST YOU OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES WITH THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF MAKING DECISIONS THAT AFFECT OUR DAILY LIVES, OUR FAMILIES, AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.THIS TRUST IS THE FOUNDATION UPON WHICH OUR CITY WAS BUILT.
ETHICS MUST BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR CITY'S CORE VALUES.
CITY LEADERS SHOULD UPHOLD THE HIGHEST ETHICAL STANDARDS, FREED FROM CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND UNDUE INFLUENCE.
THE DECISIONS MADE IN THESE CHAMBERS RIPPLE THROUGH OUR CITY, AFFECTING EVERYTHING FROM LOCAL BUSINESSES TO OUR PUBLIC SERVICES AND BEYOND.
ONCE AGAIN, I CALL UPON EACH OF YOU TO CHAMPION INITIATIVE INITIATIVES THAT PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY AND ETHICS IN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
AS COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA HAS DONE TODAY AS A RESIDENT, I ASK FOR OPENNESS AND ACCESSIBILITY.
NOT ONLY FOR SOME, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO DISAGREE, ETHICAL CONDUCT.
OUR CITY NEEDS TO IMPLEMENT AND ADHERE TO CLEARER ETHICAL GUIDELINES THAT PROVIDE CONSEQUENCES FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITY EMPLOYEES.
THIS MEANS HOLDING NOT ONLY YOURSELVES, BUT THOSE SITTING AMONGST YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING REMAINING SILENT DOES NOT MAKE YOU INNOCENT.
BY EMBRACING THESE PRINCIPLES, YOU NOT ONLY STRENGTHEN THE CITY'S DEMOCRACY, BUT ALSO WE AFFIRM THE COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE PEOPLE WE ENTRUSTED YOU TO BE THEIR WHO ENTRUSTED YOU TO BE THEIR VOICES USING THE THOUGHTS OF WILLIAM HUR.
THE MEDIOCRE LEADER TELLS THE GOOD LEADER EXPLAINS THE SUPERIOR LEADER DEMONSTRATES AND THE GREAT LEADER INSPIRES.
MY HOPE IS THAT EACH OF YOU STRIVE TO BE A GREAT LEADER.
AT THIS TIME, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE.
CITIZEN COMMENT, CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.
[2) Agenda Order per Rules of Council Sec. B1.]
ORDER.ANYBODY WISHING TO MOVE ANYTHING? AGENDA ORDER? UH, YES, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE? I THINK THEY ASKED FOR 18 AND 23.
UM, I JUST WANNA OBJECT TO, UH, THE 18 AND 19 BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.
UH, THE COUNCIL RULES OF COUNCIL CLEARLY SAY THAT THE ORDER OF BUSINESS SHOULD BE, UH, CITY, BUSINESS AND, UH, RESIDENCE PROCLAMATIONS, CITY BUSINESS.
AND THEN, UH, COUNCIL RELATED ITEMS. THERE CANNOT BE AN ARGUMENT MADE THAT THIS IS A TIME SENSITIVE.
THESE ARE TIME SENSITIVE MATTERS AS THEY HAVE BEEN PERPETUALLY, UH, UH, BEFORE US EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
SO I WOULD PREFER IT'S NOT MUCH LATER, BUT I PREFER TO KEEP THE AGENDA ORDER AS IS OR AT LEAST REGISTER MY VOTE OF OBJECTION, UH, TO PUTTING THE BUSINESS OF THOSE WHO HAVE, UH, JUST SPOKE FRONT AND CENTER FOR THIS MEETING.
SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL BRING UP, UM, ALL THOSE WANTING TO MOVE AGENDA ORDER 17 UP.
WE'LL DO 'EM, UH, ONE AT A TIME, SAY AYE.
THE COUNT, UH, AGENDA ORDER NUMBER 18.
ALL THOSE WISHING TO MOVE IT FORWARD, SAY AYE.
UH, MOTION TO PUT, UH, MOVE AHEAD.
ARE YOU DOING THEM SEPARATELY? YEAH, SEPARATELY.
WELL, WE'RE JUST VOTING ON 'EM SEPARATELY.
[17) Consider approval of a resolution approving a contract with Hill Country Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Centers to establish a Juvenile Behavioral Health Program.]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.UH, ROSIE TRULOVE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONTRACT WITH HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT DISABILITY CAREER CENTERS TO ESTABLISH A JUVENILE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAM.
ROSIE TRULOVE, DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
UM, AS THE MAYOR PRO TEM JUST READ, WE HAVE AN ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU TO CONSIDER, UH, APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT WITH HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH, UH, AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY CENTERS TO ESTABLISH A JUVENILE HEALTH PROGRAM.
UM, SO A LITTLE BIT HISTORY ON THIS ITEM.
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CITY RELEASED, UH, AN RFP TO CONSIDER PROPOSALS AROUND A MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM, UH, FOR YOUTH IN KYLE.UH, ON, ON FEBRUARY 16TH, WE RECEIVED, UH, WE RECEIVED SIX RESPONSES.
UM, STARTING IN, IN MARCH, WE STAFF BRIEF COUNSEL ON THE RESPONSES, UH, AND RECEIVED DIRECTION TO PROCEED WITH EVALUATION, INCLUDING, UH, BRINGING IN PARTNERS WITH THE HAYES COUNTY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HAYES, OR HAYES, CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HAYES COUNTY.
UM, ON MAY 18TH, SORRY, THAT'S WHEN MAY 18TH IS WHEN WE RECEIVED THE DIRECTION TO, UM, AWARD THE SOLICITATION TO HILL COUNTRY AND, UM, OR AGAIN, DIRECTED TO, UH, NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT.
SO THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM, UH, ARE THE CITY OF KYLE HAYES, CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, HAYES COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH, AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDED CONTRACTOR ON THIS HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, UH, CENTERS.
UH, THEY ARE OUR LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY FOR HAYES COUNTY.
UM, AND AND WITH THIS COLLABORATION, WE, WE ARE FORMING A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD, SHOULD WE CHOOSE TO ENHANCE THIS PROGRAM, WOULD ALLOW US ACCESS TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND RESOURCES.
THE CITY OF KYLE HAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, BUDGETED IN ONE-TIME FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024.
UH, THE HAYES CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL SPACE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS ACCESS TO A PIPELINE OF QUALIFIED, UH, POTENTIAL INTERNS.
UH, HAYES COUNTY HAS IDENTIFIED POTENTIAL SPACE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY OUTREACH SPECIALIST, UH, THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO PARTNER WITH HILL COUNTRY.
AND HILL COUNTRY HAS ACCESS TO THE TEXAS RESILIENCE AND RECOVERY SERVICES, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ENHANCED SERVICES.
SHOULD, UH, PATIENTS COMING THROUGH THIS PROGRAM NEED THOSE ADDITIONAL SERVICES? THE PRIMARY FOCUS, UH, OF THE PROGRAM AS WE HAVE NEGOTIATED IT, IS, UH, TO PROVIDE, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TREATMENT OF YOUTH.
THIS, THIS WOULD INCLUDE, UM, FENTANYL AND OTHER OPIATE SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT, ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, AND OTHER SUBSTANCES, UH, TREATMENT FOR THAT, FOR, FOR USE, UH, UH, OF THOSE SUBSTANCES, UH, AS WELL AS MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT BASED ON PROGRAM DESIGN.
AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM DESIGN CAN EITHER ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE THESE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, UM, IN DIFFERENT, IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS.
UM, THE PROVISION OF OUTPATIENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE SERVICES IS CURRENTLY NOT READILY AVAILABLE OR ACCESSIBLE IN HAYES COUNTY.
SO THIS PROGRAM WILL ADDRESS A DEEP COMMUNITY NEED THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, UM, HERE IN OUR, IN OUR AREA.
UH, THE PROGRAM WILL CREATE A UNIQUE AND COLLABORATIVE AND INDIVIDUALIZED RECOVERY PLAN FOR THE PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS.
PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS, UH, COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, IS ALSO OCCURRING WHILE THEY DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT, UH, PREVENTATIVE PROGRAMMING, UH, THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR.
AND THIS IS ALIGNED WITH THE 2022 MEADOWS MENTAL HEALTH POLICY NEEDS ASSESSMENT RECOMMENDATION TO INCREASE, UH, SCHOOL-BASED TREATMENT.
SO, AS FAR AS THE PROGRAM STRUCTURE AND METRICS, UM, THIS PROGRAM WILL INITIALLY BE BASED ON HAYES CONSOLIDATED CAMPUSES AND COULD SERVE CHARTER SCHOOLS.
IN ADDITION, ADDITIONAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS IF PROVIDED SPACE.
UH, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH SCHOOL FACULTY AND STAFF WILL IDENTIFY AND, AND HELP CARE FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE USING OR WHO HAVE USED IN AN EFFORT TO CURB THAT SUBSTANCE USE, IMPROVE WELLNESS, IMPROVE, EXCUSE ME, IMPROVE WELLNESS AND TEACH ALTERNATIVE METHODS FOR COPING.
UM, THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR REFERRAL INTO THE TEXAS RESILIENCE AND RECOVERY SERVICES PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE PSYCHIATRIC MEDICATION MANAGEMENT AND FAMILY PARTNER SERVICES.
WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR HOW WE CAN STAFF EACH OF THESE TWO OPTIONS HAVE DIFFERENT FISCAL IMPACTS AND DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS FOR HOW THE PROGRAM CAN BE SCALED.
UH, THE FIRST OPTION IS TO HIRE A SCHOOL-BASED LICENSED CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY COUNSELOR.
AND THE SECOND OPTION IS TO HIRE A SCHOOL-BASED, LICENSED PRACTITIONER OF THE HEALING ARTS.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT EACH OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS HERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS ARE CONTINGENT ON OFFICE SPACE BEING IDENTIFIED AT HAYES CONSOLIDATED AND OR HAYES COUNTY.
AND WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING RIGHT NOW THROUGH THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE 100 UNDUPLICATED CLIENTS FOR BOTH OPTIONS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER WE CHOOSE TO STAFF WITH OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO FOR THOSE UNDUPLICATED CLIENTS THAT WOULD COME WITH, WITH SCALING THE PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD BE AVAILABLE UNDER OPTION TWO.
SO OPTION ONE IS, UH, OUR LICENSED CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY COUNSELOR.
SO THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD SERVE, UH, WOULD BE DUALLY CERTIFIED AS A QUALIFIED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, A-Q-M-H-P.
UM, WITH TRAINING FOR OVERLAPPING MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS, WE ANTICIPATE THIS IS, THIS IS THE OPTION THAT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE BUDGET THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE TO US HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
IT WOULD BE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST YEAR, AND YOU WOULD SEE SLIGHT SCALING AND IN YEARS TWO AND THREE, UH, TO ALLOW FOUR
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INCREASES TO THE PROGRAM EXPENSES OVER TIME.THE SECOND OPTION IS TO BRING IN A LICENSED PRACTITIONER OF THE HEALING ARTS.
I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT ACRONYMS AS I WAS WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS HERE ON THIS.
UM, THIS COULD BE A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR, A LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKER, OR A LICENSED MARRIAGE AND FAMILY THERAPIST WITH A MINIMUM OF TWO YEARS PROVIDING SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT.
THIS LICENSED PROFESSIONAL OF THE PRACTITIONER OF THE HEALING ARTS, UM, IS AN ENHANCED SERVICE MODEL BECAUSE THIS INDIVIDUAL CAN PROVIDE COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY TO ADDRESS SYMPTOMS OF DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY AND OR TRAUMA-FOCUSED COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY.
THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE THAN THAN WHAT CAN BE PROVIDED WITH OPTION ONE.
UH, WHERE THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE, UH, OR ONLY TRAINED AS A LICENSED CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY COUNSELOR.
THIS OPTION IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
UM, IT WOULD HAVE A HIGHER COST AT ABOUT 154, UH, THOUSAND FOR THE FIRST YEAR, AND THEN YEAR AND TWO, UH, AND THREE, SCALING SLIGHTLY ACCORDINGLY.
BUT THERE ARE BENEFITS TO THIS, UH, TO OPTION TWO.
THIS EXPANDS OUR CAPACITY FOR IN-HOUSE THERAPY, UM, INCLUDING THE, THE COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY, MEDICATION MANAGEMENT AND PSYCHOSOCIAL REHAB.
UH, STARTING THE PROGRAM WITH THE LICENSED PRACTITIONER OF THE HEALING ARTS WILL ESTABLISH OUR ABILITY TO EFFECTIVELY SCALE THE PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT LICENSED PRACTITIONER OF THE HEALING ARTS CAN SUPERVISE ADDITIONAL STAFF, INCLUDING, UH, THOSE UNIVERSITY BASED INTERNS.
UM, THAT, THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT OFTEN HAS, IS APPROACHED BY OUR, OUR INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER EDUCATION, LOOKING FOR OPTIONS TO PLACE, UH, PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS THAT NEED INTERNSHIP CREDIT FOR, FOR, FOR THIS VOCATION.
UM, AND IN THE FUTURE, SHOULD WE HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL PARTNERS THAT COME IN, SHOULD WE BE SUCCESSFUL AT SEEKING ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDS? WE CAN BRING IN ADDITIONAL STAFF LIKE A LICENSED CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY COUNSELOR THAT CAN BE SUPERVISED BY THE LICENSED PRACTITIONER OF THE HEALING ARTS.
RIGHT? YOU CAN'T HAVE THE CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY COUNSELOR SUPERVISE OTHER STAFF.
THEY CAN'T SUPERVISE THE INTERNS, BUT THE LICENSED PRACTITIONER OF THE HEALING ARTS CAN, UM, THESE CREDENTIALS, UH, OPEN THE DOOR FOR NEW OPPORTUNITIES AND ALLOW FOR PROGRAM EXPANSION THROUGH, UH, ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS OR ANY GRANT-BASED, UH, FUNDS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, TO SEEK AND BE SUCCESSFUL WITH.
SO AS WE MENTIONED, UH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE AS AN ONGOING BUDGET ITEM.
SHOULD PROGRAM OPTION TWO BE SELECTED? UH, THE BALANCE CAN BE ACCOMMODATED IN THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE, WE HAVE OPTIONS OPTION PROGRAM, OPTION ONE, PROGRAM OPTION TWO.
WE CAN, WE CAN DECLINE TO, TO PROCEED WITH THE PROGRAM.
UM, THE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, AND THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION BOTH OF STAFF AND OF OUR PARTNERS, UM, HAYES CONSOLIDATED IN HAYES COUNTY, UH, IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION TWO.
WE FEEL LIKE THAT PROGRAM OPTION TWO PROVIDES THOSE DEEPER LEVELS OF SERVICE AND OUR ABILITY AND ENHANCES THAT ABILITY TO SUPERVISE AND EXPAND ADDITIONAL STAFF.
UM, AND IT SHOULD, WE ONLY MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION ONE.
IT WILL BE HARDER TO SCALE THE PROGRAM, UM, SHOULD WE FIND OPPORTUNITIES TOO WITH OTHER, UM, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OR PARTNERSHIPS.
SO THAT IS THE, THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.
ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR ZENGA? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SEE, UM, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH OPTION TWO AND CREATE THE PROGRAM, UM, WOULD THIS BE, UM, EXPANDING THE RANGE OF BEING ABLE TO FIND GRANT FUNDS AND FINDING SOURCES? OR IS THIS GONNA CREATE A PROGRAM THAT WILL COMPETE WITH ALREADY LIMITED RESOURCES THAT OTHER PROGRAMS ARE FIGHTING FOR? 'CAUSE I, WHAT I'D WANNA DO IS MAKE SURE WE'RE CREATING A PROGRAM THAT, UM, CAN BE BROADER AND, AND, UH, HAVE A WIDER RANGE OF, OF ACQUIRING FUNDING.
SO THIS IS THIS, IT'S AN INTERESTING NICHE THAT ISN'T CURRENTLY EXISTING RIGHT NOW.
UM, I THINK THE WAY WE'VE STRUCTURED THIS PROGRAM IS THAT IT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO BE COMPETITIVE IN, IN THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE CREATING WITH HAYES COUNTY AND WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE ACTUALLY ARE NOT COMPETING WITH THEM.
THERE IS, UM, HAYES COUNTY WAS JUST, UH, HAD AN ITEM IN FRONT OF THEIR, UM, THE, THE COUNTY COMMISSION TODAY.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE WAS, BUT THEY WERE APPLYING FOR A GRANT AND, UH, FOR A MENTAL HEALTH RELATED GRANT THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ONLY COUNTY HEALTH AGENCIES.
AND WE ARE PROGRAM HERE WAS LISTED AS A POTENTIAL SUBRECIPIENT OF DOLLARS SHOULD THEY BE SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING THAT GRANT.
SO IT ALLOWS US TO PARTNER WITH, UM, WITH OUR LOCAL AGENCIES.
UM, AND, AND IT'S NOT, AND, AND NOT IN A COMPETITIVE
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WAY IN THAT FRONT.AT LEAST NOT HOW IT'S ENVISIONED RIGHT NOW.
I, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF THAT VOTE PASSED, UH, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION TODAY, ROSIE, I BELIEVE THAT WAS 75,000.
I'M SORRY, DID I SAY SOMETHING WRONG? NO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE AMOUNT.
UM, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PROPOSAL.
IT MOVES FORWARD, UM, AN ISSUE THAT'S A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
UM, I WOULD PREFER THAT WE LOOK AT OR ACCEPT OPTION TWO.
UM, I HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE.
UH, LCDC SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE THE, THE SKILLS, UH, OR TRAINING TO WORK WITH YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE ANXIETY DISORDERS, DEPRESSION, UM, BEHAVIORAL ISSUES.
UM, THEY, THEY WORK VERY WELL WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS.
BUT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT USUALLY THE PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS USUALLY SOME OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH FIRST.
SO, UM, I WOULD, I, I LIKE THE PROGRAM.
UM, I VISITED WITH, UM, THE DIRECTOR OF COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.
UH, THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING A PARTNERSHIP WITH US AND THEY HELP THIS PASSES.
I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, ON SOME MEMBER PARSLEY.
SO YOU SAID THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAID THAT THEY HAD LOCATED A PLACE FOR LIKE TO HAVE IT.
SO WHAT IS THE SCHEDULING GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN WE START THE PROGRAM? ARE THEY GOING TO BE WORKING DURING REGULAR SCHOOL HOURS? ARE WE GONNA BE AVAILABLE DURING THE WEEKEND? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL DETERMINED YET.
UM, I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE FOLK HAVE THE, THE HILL COUNTRY STAFF PRIMARILY DURING SCHOOL HOURS WHEN WE KNOW WE WOULD HAVE, UM, THE AVAILABILITY OF REACHING THE KIDS, UM, AT SCHOOL.
BUT, UH, IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, MOVE INTO EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, TO ACCESS THE POPULATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCESS, I'M SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO.
BUT THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WILL BE DETERMINED AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS.
AND IS THE LOCATION GOING TO BE INSIDE A SCHOOL, OR IS JUST SCHOOL DISTRICT GROUNDS? IT IS, HOLD ON.
I'M LOOKING AT WHAT I RECEIVED FROM DR. WATSON TODAY WITH HAYES.
IT'S, UM, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS AT KYLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED RIGHT NOW.
AND SO ARE WE GOING TO BE SERVING ONLY KYLE YOUTH? NO.
SO WE'RE OPENING THIS TO HAYES COUNTY.
AND ANY, HOW ARE WE SERVING CHARTER SCHOOLS? SO WE CAN EITHER, UM, THE, THE, THE EMPLOYEE OF HILL COUNTRY WILL BE MOBILE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT AND CAN GO VISIT OTHER SCHOOLS AS THEY NEED TO.
UM, WE HAVE THE FACILITIES OR THE, THE OFFICE SPACE OR THE MEETING ROOM OR THE CLIENT SPACE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT, UH, KYLE ELEMENTARY.
UM, I THINK WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO HAYES COUNTY AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, SIMILAR OFFICE LOCATION IF NECESSARY.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH, WITH THE CHARTER SCHOOLS, THEN WE WOULD BE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT HOW EITHER WE CAN HAVE THAT POPULATION COME TO, YOU KNOW, A, A HAYES CONSOLIDATED SCHOOL DISTRICT SITE OR TO THE COUNTY SITE, OR FIND THAT THAT RIGHT SPACE AND, AND WAY TO REACH THAT POPULATION.
BUT WE ARE VERY CLEAR IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF THE PARTNERS THAT THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO JUST KYLE RESIDENTS.
UM, AND IT'S NOT LIMITED TO JUST HIS CONSOLIDATED INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WELL SEE, I FEEL LIKE THERE IS CONFLICT IN THERE.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY DOING REGARDING, UM, YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH FOR THE STUDENTS.
AND THEN WHAT ARE WE DOING? ARE WE JUST LIKE, IS THERE ANY SORT OF INTERFERENCE? AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, I MEAN, THIS IS OUR TAXES.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE FOCUSING ON KYLE YOUTH.
UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF HAVING THIS IN SCHOOL DISTRICT GROUNDS, WHICH I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT THEY'RE DONATING THE LAND, UM, IF THAT IS GOING TO BE DETRACTIVE TO THE KIDS THAT ARE NOT GOING IN HAZE, LIKE WE HAVE YOUTH THAT PROBABLY IS NOT GOING TO SCHOOL.
AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE APPROACHING THOSE, THOSE KIDS ALSO, ARE WE COUNTING ON, 'CAUSE IF WE'RE DOING THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO ADVERTISE IT TO KYLE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THOSE SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE.
AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THE KYLE, YOU TO HAVE, UM, PRIMARY, UM, ACCESS TO THESE SERVICES.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR ME TO SAY THAT I APPROVE A OR B RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.
HOW WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND IF SOMEBODY NEEDS
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TO REACH OUT TO THEM ON A SATURDAY, ON A SUNDAY, UM, I THINK I NEED MORE INFORMATION FOR ME TO PICK OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO.I MEAN, I WANT THE PROGRAM, BUT I WANT IT FOR THE KYLE YOUTH NOT BEING MEAN TO THE HAYES COUNTY KIDS.
I'M JUST SAYING, UM, IS, IS THAT WHAT, WHAT IS THE DIFF LIKE HOW ARE WE MAKING IT DIFFERENT FROM WHATEVER THE COUNTY'S DOING AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING? ARE WE DOING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SERVICE? I I'M JUST ASKING 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
I I COULD TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THAT.
I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS ANOTHER COMMENT.
BUT I, I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, THE FIRST THING IS THIS, THE PILOT PROGRAM, IT'S NEW, IT'S NEW FOR EVERYONE.
WE ARE, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT WE THINK IS A STRONG NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.
THESE ARE FAIR QUESTIONS THAT, THAT EVERYONE'S ASKING ABOUT EXACTLY HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE.
UM, BUT WE DO BELIEVE THIS POSITIONS US TO SCALE THE PROGRAM AS ROSIE HAD TALKED ABOUT, AND GET ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING TO DO EVEN MORE THINGS FOR A LARGE, MUCH LARGER POPULATION.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT THEY WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS YOUR, UH, CONTRACT, HOW DOES IT WORK? HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU SERVING? WHAT IS THE STAFF THAT YOU HAVE? AND WE'RE REALLY NOT POSITIONED WELL TO, UH, APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS UNTIL WE HAVE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS.
SO OUR THOUGHT HAS BEEN TO, TO TRY TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE BASED ON ALL THE FACTORS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AND THE PARTNERS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED HERE.
AND THEN, UM, OVER TIME TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND BETTER HOW WE'RE SERVING THAT POPULATION AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GROW IT.
UH, BUT WE DO HAVE, WE HOPEFULLY SOME GRANT FUNDS, UH, RIGHT AWAY THAT WILL HELP US GROW THE PROGRAM.
AND, AND THE IDEA IS TO CONTINUE TO GROW THAT AND, AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.
UM, BUT WE DO THINK THERE'S A NEED OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO IF WE WERE TO APPROVE ANY OF THE OPTION, IS THAT GOING TO LOCK US INTO THE THREE YEAR TOTAL? NO.
IT'S, IT'S STRUCTURED AS AN ANNUAL CONTRACT.
BUT THE IDEA IS, UM, THAT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE ENOUGH SURETY MOVING FORWARD THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT THE PROGRAM ON OUR, ON THE CITY OF KYLE'S PART, UM, TO SEE IT GET ESTABLISHED.
UM, WHICH WOULD BE LONGER THAN, SO IT WOULDN'T BE A THREE YEAR, LIKE, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE, WE ARE NOT LOCKED INTO A THREE YEAR.
WE WOULD ADD SOME KIND OF, WE DO HAVE CANCELLATION PROVISIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT IN, IN THE AGREEMENT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES WORKING WITH SOME OF THE HOSPITALS, THE NONPROFITS TO PROVIDE SOME FUNDING AS WELL.
AND THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPRINGBOARD, TO THEN GO AND, AND TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THOSE FUNDS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GROW IT EVEN FURTHER.
BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT AND PROGRAM IN PLACE TO ACTUALLY APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS.
AND THE WAY WE WOULD STRUCTURE THE INITIAL CONTRACT IS A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH EXTENSION OPTIONS.
SO WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO THREE FULL YEARS.
UH, BRIAN, WHAT WOULD THE ACTION BE IF THIS WERE TO PASS TONIGHT? WHAT WOULD BE THE STAFF TAKEN BY OR THE STEP TAKEN BY STAFF? SO WE WOULD ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT WITH, UH, HILL COUNTRY AND THEY WOULD IN, UH, HIRE THE PROFESSIONAL, UM, TO, TO GO AHEAD AND ASSIGN TO THAT AREA.
WE WOULD WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO GET THE SPACE READY AT THEIR FACILITY AND TO START THAT SERVICE AS, AS SOON AS PRACTICAL, HOPEFULLY WITH A NEW SCHOOL YEAR.
SO AT WHAT POINT WOULD THE FRAMEWORK OF OPERATION, UH, BE SOLIDIFIED? SO TO COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY'S QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO WE'RE SERVING? MM-HMM.
WHEN IS THAT? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS VOTE TONIGHT.
IS ANYTHING TO DO WITH, WITH THE ANSWER THAT SHE'S LOOKING FOR? 'CAUSE I, I DON'T THINK IT DOES, BUT, 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME BACK AFTER AFTERWARD.
I, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE US, UM, IF, IF, IF WE'RE HERE NOW IN, IN EARLY JULY, THAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE SOLID PROGRAM DESIGN UNTIL AT LEAST 30 TO 45 DAYS FROM NOW.
NOT HAVING CONSULTED WITH HILL COUNTRY ON THAT, BUT IT WOULD TAKE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO, TO GET THAT ORGANIZED.
I THINK THE GOAL WOULD SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME.
I KNOW SCHOOL STARTS A LITTLE EARLIER THAN SEPTEMBER, BUT TO TRY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK IN THAT TIME PERIOD WHERE WE WOULD BE READY TO START.
SO, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE AND THANK THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO HAVE BEEN EXCEPTIONAL PARTNERS, UH, AND THOSE AT HILL COUNTRY FOR PARTICIPATING ON THIS JOURNEY TO TRY TO HELP SOME KIDS IN, IN, UH, IN OUR CITY, IN OUR COUNTY.
UH, KIDS WHO REALLY BADLY NEED MORE SUPPORT.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR, FOR STANDING UP AND BEING WILLING TO, TO COLLABORATE, UH, TO GET US TO THIS POINT.
AND WITH THAT SAID, UM, MAYOR PROTIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OPTION TWO FOR ITEM NUMBER 17.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER.
SECOND BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WELL HOLD ON.
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ON.DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SORRY.
WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME ON THE NEWS.
UH, FOR MENTAL HEALTH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE YOUTH.
UM, THE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM, BUT WHAT IF THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, THAT IS NEEDING ASSISTANCE, UM, WHERE'S THE LIABILITY GONNA COME FROM WHEN THE SCHOOL IS NOTIFIED? THE PARENTS, WHERE DO THEY GET INVOLVED IN THIS? OKAY.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS A LIABILITY FROM THE CITY.
WE JUST CAN'T GO AND SEND A STUDENT TO THIS FACILITY OR RECOMMEND THAT.
WHERE'S THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE PARENTAL SUPERVISION GONNA COME FROM ON THIS? IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUTH, UM, AGE LIMIT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO ON AND SAY AN INDIVIDUAL IS HAVING ANXIETY OR BIPOLAR OR HAVING EPISODES, WHICH DOES HAPPEN.
UH, BUT AS SOON AS THEY TURN 18, WHAT HAPPENS THEN? OKAY.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
UM, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CHARTER SCHOOLS, MS. PARSLEY HAD SOME GOOD POINTS THERE.
UM, EACH WE'RE DEALING WITH HAYES, ISD SHOULD AN IDEA OR ANY OTHER SCHOOL CHARTER SCHOOLS, VALOR OR WHOEVER IT IS, ARE THEY ON BOARD WITH THIS AS WELL? HAVE WE CONTACTED THEM YET? HAVE WE VISITED WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT THEIR INPUT WOULD BE? OKAY.
I HEAR ALREADY AT, AND THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO MY EMAIL.
'CAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS A KEY FACTOR THERE.
WHAT IF, IF WE'RE OPENING THIS UP TO ALL OF HAYES COUNTY, SAN MARCUS BETA ALT, AND THE ONLY FACILITY AVAILABLE IS KYLE ELEMENTARY, HOW'S THAT STUDENT OR THAT INDIVIDUAL GONNA GET THERE? AND MENTAL HEALTH IS A 24 7 ISSUE.
IF A STUDENT OR A CHILD OR A TEENAGER IS IN CRISIS
ARE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEEDING ASSISTANCE, WILL THEY, WOULD THIS COVER UNDER THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE, WHETHER IT'S MEDICARE, MEDICAID OR THEIR, THEIR PARENTS' INSURANCE AND SO FORTH TO WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE DEDUCTIBLES THERE? 'CAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE WHAT MAYOR PRO TIM WAS SAYING, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE MEN INTO THE HEALTH BUSINESS.
WE'RE NOT GETTING INTO THE HEALTH BUSINESS.
BUT THESE ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HOLD THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT LIABLE FOR ANY LAWSUITS.
THIS IS A NEED, I'M NOT DISMISSING THAT AT ALL.
BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE FACTORS THAT COME INTO PLAY BEFORE WE GO FORWARD ON THIS.
WE, I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE STUDENTS AND THEIR INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED THIS HELP, BUT AGAIN, ACCESS TO THE BUILDING, PARENTAL CONTROL AS FAR AS NOTIFICATIONS, HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE? UM, AND THE DISCRETION AS WELL IF YOU HAVE IT.
ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, KIDS TALK THEY GOSSIP VERSUS HAVING THAT CONFIDENTIAL AREA FOR A SPECIFIC CENTER.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I THINK WE, WE NEED TO ALSO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE MAKING THIS VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER TOBE, IF I MAY JUST ADDRESS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP IN REGARD ON JUST MAKING SURE, HAS EVERYBODY GONE? THAT'S OKAY.
COUNCIL WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IN DISCRETION, UH, THE, THE DISTRICT ALREADY HAS TWO PROGRAMS OR A, A GRANT FUNDED PROGRAM AND THEN ANOTHER PROGRAM CALLED COMMUNITIES AND SCHOOLS, WHERE SOME OF THE SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT HAVE, UH, A SINGLE COUNSELOR ON CAMPUS.
SO THIS IS ALREADY IN PRACTICE.
THEY'RE JUST LIMITED IN THE VOLUME OF KIDS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SEE DUE TO THE FUNDING THAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO SECURE.
UM, SO WHEN YOU'RE TA TALKING ABOUT DISCRETION AND, AND KIDS TALKING AND, UH, REFERRAL PROCESSES AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALREADY HAPPENS WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND THIS EFFECTIVELY WOULD JUST BE, UH, PROVIDE A WRAPAROUND ELEMENT TO THE CARE THAT THE KIDS ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE DURING THE DAY.
YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THE, THE, THE LAST THING WE WANT WHEN WE HAVE A KID, WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IDENTIF OR, YOU KNOW, A TEACHER, A COUNSELOR, A PRINCIPAL IDENTIFIES A KID WHO'S STRUGGLING AND WANTS TO GIVE THEM, THEY QUALIFY FOR THAT SUPPORT IN THE SCHOOL DURING THE DAY.
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THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE PROGRESS.THE LAST THING WE WANT IS FOR THEM TO GO HOME, RIGHT BACK INTO THAT SITUATION THAT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED THEM THE ISSUES TO BEGIN WITH.
SO THE IDEA WAS TO CREATE A WRAPAROUND PROGRAM SO THAT IF THE KIDS CANNOT GET, OR THEY MAX OUT THE AMOUNT OF SESSIONS THAT THEY CAN GET THROUGH TEACH A, WHICH IS A STATE FUNDED PROGRAM, THAT THERE IS SOMETHING, THERE IS A SOFT LANDING SPOT FOR SOME OF THESE KIDS.
AND YOU KNOW, IN THAT, THAT BACK ROOM A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, UH, THERE WERE OVER 10 PARENTS WHO LO WHO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY WHO LOST THEIR KIDS TO FENTANYL AND DRUG OVERDOSE.
AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM ADVOCATED FOR SOMETHING, A SOLUTION LIKE THIS.
AND ESPECIALLY THE ADDICTION SUPPORT TREATMENT THAT KIDS CAN GET.
'CAUSE THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CALL OUT OF THOSE PARENTS, IS THAT EITHER THEIR INSURANCE DIDN'T COVER MORE THAN ONE TRIP TO, TO REHAB OR, UM, SESSIONS WITH, UH, UM, A PSYCHIATRIST WHO CAN PROVIDE MEDICATION.
UM, OR THERE WASN'T ADDICTION SUPPORT LOCAL FOR THEM TO GET, UH, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR KIDS AFTER, UH, THEIR WORKDAY AND AFTER THE SCHOOL DAY.
SO EVERYTHING THAT ROSIE HAS LAID OUT, UH, WITH THIS PROGRAM THAT WAS CREATED BY A ROOM OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT CONSISTED OF, UH, THE HAYES COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, SOMEONE FROM THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, TWO OFFICERS, OUR, OUR MENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS FROM THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND SOMEBODY WHO WORKS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
AND WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO VOTE ON TONIGHT IS THE OUTCOME OF THOSE MINES GETTING TOGETHER.
AND SO, WHILE YOUR QUESTIONS ARE, ARE VALID, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THEM, I DON'T THINK, I THINK WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT AFTER THIS, THIS VOTE BECAUSE THERE'S STILL NO FRAMEWORK FOR THE PROGRAM.
IS THERE, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY TO TRY TO HAVE A LAYOUT OF THE POSSIBLE OPERATION OF THIS FACILITY BEFORE WE TAKE THIS VOTE? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND WE WANNA KICKSTART, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE IN DEPTH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK ON YEAR ONE AND YEAR TWO WHEN WE HAVE THIS NUMBERS IN FRONT OF US.
AND WHAT I MEAN IS LIKE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACHIEVE TO REACH OUT TO THE KIDS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY? LIKE ARE WE LOOKING INTO, UM, ADVERTISING CODE FOR THEM TO KNOW WHAT IT IS LOCATED? AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A GOOD POINT TOO, LIKE HOW WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO VALOR OR TO IDEA OR TO ANY OTHER OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS, UM, AND KIDS THAT ARE BEING HOMESCHOOLED.
SO I, I THINK THAT LOOKING INTO THOSE THINGS MIGHT BE GOOD BEFORE WE SET UP AN AMOUNT.
I THINK WE ALL WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP, BUT I, I DON'T THINK, I THINK THE NUMBERS, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SURE THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEM TOGETHER KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
BUT I, I THINK THERE IS SO MANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER YET.
SO ROSIE WITH THE, UH, AGREEMENT THAT WOULD KICK THIS OFF BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNCIL, THIS IS THE, THE ACTION THAT'S HERE TODAY WOULD GIVE, UH, THE CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE THAT FINAL AGREEMENT BASED ON THE PROGRAM DESIGN OPTION THAT YOU HAVE SELECTED.
BUT WILL THAT FINAL AGREEMENT COME BACK TO US TO, I MEAN, 'CAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGAS QUESTIONS WERE VALID.
SOME OF THEM WILL BE ANSWERED IN THE OPERATING AGREEMENT.
UM, AND MY OTHER CONCERN IS, UM, TRYING TO SERVE THE WHOLE COUNTY WITH ONE PERSON IS UNREALISTIC.
AND, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER THAT IT BE LIMITED TO THOSE WHO ARE RECEIVING THEIR SERVICES AND KYLE, OR WHO ARE KYLE RESIDENTS.
UH, WE CAN'T SERVE THE WHOLE COUNTY WITH ONE PERSON.
THEY CAN'T BE TRAVELING TO WIMBERLEY OR TO SAN MARCUS AND USE THEIR TIME EFFECTIVELY.
UM, I'M, I'M GONNA GO REAL QUICK.
UH, JUST WANNA SAY THAT WHEN I FIRST, WHEN THIS FIRST WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, I HAD A MILLION QUESTIONS.
Y'ALL PROBABLY WERE HERE AT THE LAST MEETING AND HEARD 'EM ALL.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I DO IS I DO MY DUE DILIGENCE.
I GO OUT AND REACH RESEARCH AND START ASKING QUESTIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I DID BEFORE THE OTHER MEETING THAT WE HAD ON THIS.
WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP, I HAD A MILLION QUESTIONS.
UH, TO SEE THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, GET BEHIND.
THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD FOR ME.
I REALLY, I REALLY HAD A BIG QUESTION WHETHER THEY WOULD OR WOULDN'T.
AND FOR THEM TO STEP UP AND SAY, YES, WE'VE GOT SPACE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
'CAUSE THAT SAVES US A LOT OF COSTS THERE.
SPACE IS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST PART OF IT.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS, UH, MENTAL
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HEALTH, FENTANYL, I MEAN, IT'S REAL.I MEAN, DO WE DO, DO WE DO NOTHING AND JUST ALLOW THINGS TO KEEP HAPPENING THE WAY THEY ARE? I MEAN, THIS ISN'T GONNA SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS, BUT IF THERE'S A FIRST STEP FORWARD AND EVERYTHING, I MEAN, ARE WE GONNA, DO WE CARE ABOUT KIDS? THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE QUESTION IS RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THERE WAS A FUNERAL A FEW WEEKS AGO FROM A KID.
THAT'S HOW I GREW UP IN MY PARISH FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE HELPED HIM.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.
COULD WE HAVE HAD THAT HELP? AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT REALLY THERE'S NOTHING RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE'VE GOTTA ASK OURSELVES AS A STATE.
WE'VE HAVEN'T DONE A GREAT JOB OF MENTAL HEALTH AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.
I MEAN, WHERE'S THE FIRST STEP FORWARD IN HELPING OUR KIDS? I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA TAKE A STEP SOMEWHERE.
UM, I MEAN, I KNOW WE WANT TO HELP EVERYONE, BUT SOMETIMES HELPING A FEW IS, IS WORTH IT.
I MEAN, I REMEMBER BEING AT THE FOOD DRIVES AND THE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS.
I WANTED TO GIVE EVERY FAMILY A MEAL DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC.
I MEAN, SO CAN CAN I ASK WHAT IS THE START? SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
I CAN, I, SO WHAT IS THE 1 54 GOING TO BUY US THE FIRST YEAR? IT WILL, UH, COVER PROGRAM SETUP.
UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? EQUIPMENT, TECHNOLOGY, COMPUTER, THAT KIND OF, THAT KIND OF, UM, EQUIPMENT.
UH, AND THE COST OF THE, THE BULK OF THE EXPENSE FOR EITHER OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO IS REALLY A PERSON.
IT'S, IT'S THE STAFF MEMBER THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, PROVIDING THE ASSISTANCE HERE PLUS CERTAIN SLIGHT PERCENTAGES FOR, UH, ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE LARGER HILL COUNTRY, UH, ORGANIZATION.
SO IT WOULD BE, THE FACILITY WILL BE DONATED.
THE FACILITY IS BEING DONATED.
THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HAYES COUNTY AND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH SPECIALIST IS, IS IN PARTNERSHIP.
AND COLLABORATION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE FUNDAMENTALLY GOING TO BE PAYING FOR WITH THESE DOLLARS IS STAFF TIME.
AND THEN YOU SAID COMPUTERS AND EVERYTHING.
YEAH, THAT'S WHY IT'S JUST THE INITIAL, THAT INITIAL SETUP TO ESTABLISH THE POSITION WITHIN HILL COUNTRY.
SO MAYOR PROTO AND COUNCIL, I, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE.
THE CONTRACT DOES INDEMNIFY THE CITY.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT HOLDS US, UH, HARMLESS FOR ANY KIND OF OUTCOMES THAT WERE KIND OF RAISED.
SO THEY HAVE FAMILIARITY WITH THAT.
AND AS YOU, UH, THINK THROUGH THIS AND CONSIDER THE ITEM HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED, UH, ONE, UH, THING WE COULD OFFER IS IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO PROCEED WITH THIS, THEN WE COULD COME BACK AND HAVE A DETAILED, EVEN THOUGH THE CONTRACT WOULD BE APPROVED WITH THIS VOTE THIS EVENING, WE COULD COME BACK AND PROVIDE A DETAILED OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM, INTRODUCE THE SPECIALIST, AND GO THROUGH THAT WITH THE COUNCIL, IF THAT'S YOUR CHOOSING.
SO JUST AS A COUPLE OF OPTIONS FOR YOU AS YOU CONSIDER IT.
I THINK IF IT'S APPROVED, WE DEFINITELY WOULD WANT THAT.
SO THAT WAY WE KNOW WHAT THE STARTING POINT IS.
AND THEN MAYBE AS A CITY LATER ON, WE CAN SEE WHERE IT GO WOULD BE IF WE COULD IDENTIFY MORE FUNDING, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE.
UH, BUT YEAH, JUST, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I GUESS JUST MY THEORY COUNCIL TO MY THEORY ON THAT IS WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE THAT AHEAD OF TIME? YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THESE, THESE QUESTIONS HERE, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING MENTAL HEALTH IS NOT AN ISSUE, BUT THERE ARE LIABILITIES THAT COME ALONG WITH THIS.
AND I KNOW THE EMOTIONAL PART OF IT ALL, I WAS HERE WHEN THOSE PEOPLE CAME UP FOR THE FENTANYL.
ACTUALLY I WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT 'EM UP HERE TO SHOW THE, THE PICTURES AND I SHOWED THE, THE, ON THAT END.
BUT, UH, I JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S COVERED.
YOU UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY OF THE CHILD THEMSELVES, THE PARENT, THE PARENTAL SUPERVISION THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT.
THE FACILITY ITSELF ON THAT END.
UM, SO I THINK I WOULD'VE FELT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE VOTE IF WE HAD ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS.
LIKE YOU SAID, WE WILL GIVE YOU A WHOLE PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS, WE'VE ALREADY GOT WITH THE OTHER CHARTER SCHOOLS, THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID, THESE ARE THEIR CONTACT PEOPLE AT, AT IDEA OR VALERO OR VALOR.
I MEAN, ALL OF THESE WOULD'VE PRETTY MUCH ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE
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FOR THE MONEY NOW.AND IT'S LIKE ANY OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT LATER AS WE GO ALONG.
WHETHER HAVING SOMETHING VERY CONCRETE AS FAR AS ALL THESE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE FACILITY, ACCESS, THE 24 HOUR ACCESS AND SO FORTH.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT AS WE GO ALONG.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S OTHER CAMPUSES THAT ARE, ARE WILLING TO WANNA PARTICIPATE.
HAVE WE CONTACTED THEM? BUT ALL WE HEARD SO FAR IS JUST ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DOWN THE ROAD.
WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS AT SIMON? WHAT HAVE THE, THE KIDS AT HAYES? IT'S JUST THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS.
UH, I HOPED OR PLAN WE WOULD'VE HAD AHEAD OF TIME TO WHERE IT COULD MAYBE ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD, OR ON THAT END, I THINK IT'S PREMATURE.
I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A VOTE.
AND IF YOU GUYS WANNA VOTE NO ON THIS, THEN THAT'S ON YOU.
BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA KEEP KICKING THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
WELL, I DON'T IF, IF THAT'S HOW THE ATTITUDE YOU HAVE MR. HEISER FINE.
THAT'S THE ATTITUDE YOU HAVE, SIR.
UM, SO DO WE WANNA POSTPONE THIS? DO WE WANNA TAKE A VOTE TO MAKE THE MOTION? I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO POSTPONE IT.
I DON'T WANNA VOTE AGAINST THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION RIGHT NOW TO VOTE.
I MEAN, YEAH, WE'RE PROVE $154,000 RIGHT NOW FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING, THE, UM, THE STAFF.
BUT SEE, I, I FEEL LIKE THERE IS GONNA BE A LARGE POPULATION IN CAL THAT WILL NOT BE AWARE OF THE BENEFIT.
'CAUSE WE HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE ONE STOP PERSON? AND I KNOW THAT EVERY LITTLE HELPS.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE IN STAFF.
LIKE, HOW, HOW ARE THOSE SERVICES GOING TO BE? UM, HAVE ACCESS TO LIKE, JUST CALLING, HEY, I HAVE A CRISIS.
LIKE, CAN I GO AND SEE YOU? AND THERE'S LIKE A THREE WEEK WAIT.
HOW, HOW DOES THAT OR SO SOMEBODY FROM THE SCHOOL CAN REACH OUT TO THE PERSON, JUST WALK IN.
I NEED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT MY FENTANYL.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND.
WE CANNOT BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A PROFESSIONAL ON, ON STAFF TO ANSWER THOSE FOR US.
SO, SO WOULD IT BE WISE FOR US TO KIND OF POSTPONE IT AND HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHO CAN MAKE AN APPOINTMENT? HOW ARE YOU GONNA MAKE AN APPOINTMENT? WHAT WOULD THE WAIT TYPE LOOK LIKE? AND THEN IS IT GOING TO BE THAT SOMEBODY HAS ACCESS FROM THE SCHOOL OR NOT? I FEEL A LOT OF THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE PROGRAM DESIGN WILL BE IRONED OUT AS WE ESTABLISH THE PROGRAM AND WORK ON THE, UM, AND GET HILL COUNTRY WORKING WITH, UH, OUR PARTNERS.
SO, I DON'T KNOW, EVEN IF HILL COUNTRY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT AND, AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A A LOT OF THE PARTNERS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ARE BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY THIS WEEK, ARE JUST NOT IN THE OFFICE THIS WEEK.
UM, I THINK THAT WE, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN, UM, SOME OF THOSE DETAILS WILL COME ABOUT AS WE ESTABLISH THE PROGRAM AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA CONDUCT THE OUTREACH AND, UM, AND ASCERTAIN, I MEAN, THAT, THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WILL COME.
IT'S JUST UNTIL WE HAVE A CONTRACT OR UNTIL WE HAVE DIRECTION TO START, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS IS TO GET APPROVAL OF THIS.
AND THEN WE WOULD START WORKING ON THE DETAILED PROGRAM DESIGN THAT WOULD COME, UM, AS WE ROLL INTO IMPLEMENTATION.
SO THEY JUST, THEY JUST WANT THIS APPROVED SO THEY CAN SAY, HEY, I HAVE THE CONTRACT.
AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THE STRATEGY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU THINK? NO, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE STRATEGIES THEY'RE GONNA BE BUILDING ON WORK THAT, THAT THEY DO IN OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE WORK THAT HILL COUNTRY DOES.
THEY ARE OUR LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY SAKS ASKED IS, IS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY TURN 18.
THIS ALLOWS THEM THAT ENTRY INTO THE HILL COUNTRY SYSTEM.
AND SO I, I DON'T, I, I DON'T ENVISION ANYONE WOULD BE DROPPED JUST BECAUSE THEY TURNED 18.
THEY WOULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, TRANSITIONED INTO OTHER ASPECTS OF THE LARGER MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAMS THAT HILL COUNTRY OFFERS.
YEAH, I, I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ASK OR TO ADD.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, LETTING ME CHIME IN JUST A BIT.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT THINGS KIND OF HAVE COME TO MIND LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION.
UH, THE, THE FIRST IS THE COMMENTARY AROUND DO WE KNOW ENOUGH? DO WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION? WHICH I THINK PROBABLY EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE AROUND A LOT OF TOPICS NEARLY EVERY, EVERY MEETING.
AND I THINK PROBABLY THE ANSWER OF DO WE HAVE ENOUGH
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INFORMATION TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP OR DO WE NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO TAKE? THE NEXT STEP COMES KIND OF DOWN TO, AT YOUR BASE LEVEL WHETHER YOU REALLY SUPPORT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEING PURSUED OR NOT.SO I THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE TENSION, UH, THAT I FEEL OR, UH, THAT I HEAR IS REALLY COMING FROM LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S PARTLY IN MY HEAD.
UH, THE SECOND THING, WHICH SORT OF DOVETAILS FROM THAT IS THE, THE COMMENTARY AND THE RHETORIC THAT I'VE, UH, PUT OUT IN THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST, UH, FOUR AND A HALF YEARS WITH REGARDS TO, WELL, I WOULD SAY JUST OVER FOUR YEARS WITH REGARDS TO MENTAL HEALTH.
UH, I HAD THE PERSPECTIVE AND I KNOW, UH, UH, COUNCILOR PRO, UH, UH, TOBIAS WAS ALSO THERE FROM THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING, AS WELL AS A LOT OF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO ALSO, UH, ALL OF US THERE.
WHEN, WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT AND WE, WE SAW HOW WHATEVER MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM WE HAD IN PLACE, UH, UH, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL, STATE SCHOOL, UH, PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, UH, IT WAS NOT CLOSE TO ENOUGH, UH, TO HANDLE THE STRAIN, THE MENTAL HEALTH STRAIN.
SO MENTAL HEALTH WENT FROM SOMETHING THAT I OBVIOUSLY THINK ABOUT, BUT ALMOST LIKE A SORT OF LIKE A, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO STAY IN SHAPE.
YOU'RE PROTECTING YOUR MENTAL HEALTH TO A CRISIS MODE, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
AND I WILL SAY THAT MONITORING IT OVER THE LAST, THESE LAST FOUR YEARS, ONE THING HAS BECOME CLEAR.
UH, AND THAT IS THAT THE CRISIS THAT STARTED IN 2020 WITH IN PARTICULAR YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, HAS NOT GONE AWAY.
AND WE HAVE NOT REVERTED BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WERE BEFORE.
AND SO THE QUESTION REALLY COMES DOWN TO, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY OF KYLE TO TAKE A STEP FORWARD TO TRY TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM KNOWING THAT THERE IS NO CHANCE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
UH, AND ON THAT, I DRAW ON MY THIRD POINT, WHICH WOULD BE SOME MEMORIES OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE IN THE PAST WITHOUT FULL AND COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE.
UH, SOME THAT LATER BECAME, UH, REALLY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS, UH, AND SOME THAT ULTIMATELY DID NOT, WHERE WE REALIZED WE HAD BETTER PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL OR AT THE STATE LEVEL, OR MAYBE IT WAS BETTER PRIVATIZED.
UH, ONE OF THOSE IS THE, BUT KYLE TAXI PROGRAM, UH, THAT WAS A KIND OF A NOVEL IDEA THAT WE WERE PURSUING.
IT HAD A LOT OF HOLES IN IT, UH, TO HELP WITH MOBILITY, BUT WE HAD A NEED, UH, THAT WE WERE HEARING FROM REGULARLY WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS, UH, TRANSPORTATION.
AND SO WE PUT FORWARD THE KYLE BUTTA TAXI TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.
UH, AND ULTIMATELY IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
AND I HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND WAS VERY SKEPTICAL OF THAT PROGRAM.
BUT SOMETIMES, UH, WHEN A CITY RECOGNIZES THAT A NEED THAT A NEED IS THERE, UH, AND THEY'RE ALL TAKING IT SERIOUSLY, TAKING A STEP FORWARD, EVEN IF ULTIMATELY THAT PROGRAM DOES NOT BECOME THE END RESULT, I DO NOT THINK IT'S A BAD THING.
AND SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, UH, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, TAKE THIS VOTE.
UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT IT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, PUTS MY, UH, YOU KNOW, VOTE MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE IMPORTANCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, JUST AS WE TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
CAN I MAKE A LAST QUESTION? COUNCIL, BOARDMAN.
SO LET'S SAY THAT THE PROGRAM GETS APPROVED TODAY.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE IN ABOUT A THREE, FOUR MONTHS THE OPERATION PLAN FOR THIS? ABSOLUTELY.
BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE ESTABLISHED WITH THE VOTE THAT IT WILL BE CONTINGENT ON US GETTING, UM, OPERATION PLAN.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST AND, AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT, UM, AT A COUNCIL MEETING.
AND I HONESTLY DON'T THINK IT'LL TAKE THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.
UM, I, I, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE IN THE TWO MONTH RANGE, UM, ALL TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT AND, AND WE'LL BRING OUR PARTNERS IN, UM, TO SHARE, SHARE A THAT, DO YOU NEED TO HAVE A CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE FOR US TO HAVE THE OPERATIONS PLANS TO BE BACK IN HERE IN TWO MONTHS? I, I, I LOOK AT BRIAN AND AMY.
I MEAN, I CAN TAKE THAT AS VERBAL DIRECTION AND, AND CAN WORK TO BRING BACK A BRIEFING ON THAT.
BUT IF, IF THAT NEEDS TO BE MEMORIALIZED IN THE ACTION, I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE IN THE MOTION, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY, UH, WE'LL TAKE THAT DIRECTION BACK FROM COUNSEL AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
DO YOU MIND, UM, AMENDING YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AND HAVE BACK OPERATIONAL PLAN BY THE END OF I NO.
SEPTEMBER OR COUNCIL MAYOR HEISER? YES.
UH, COUNCIL MAYOR HARRIS, DID YOU SECOND IT? YES.
COULD YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION, PLEASE? YEAH.
DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING, MIGUEL? YES.
SO, YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS WHY I REALLY BELIEVED ADAMANTLY THAT I WANTED TO SUPPORT A COMMUNITY CENTER AS A PRIORITY.
'CAUSE I SEE THIS MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT AS ONE ESSENTIAL COMPONENT THAT WOULD BLEND IN THERE.
AND THAT'S WHY I STIRRED VERY FIRMLY ON COMMUNITY CENTER, I BELIEVE
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WAS THE TOP PRIORITY THAT THE CITY NEEDED.I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE.
I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY, UM, MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER, UH, OPTION TWO TWO FOR ITEM NUMBER 17, UH, TO INCLUDE THAT STAFF BRING BACK THE OPERATIONAL PLAN, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR MONTHS OR WHEN READY? TWO, TWO TO MONTHS.
THREE MONTHS I THINK WOULD BE REASONABLE.
SINCE I'M NOT ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT WITH HEALTH COUNTRY.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE MOTION FOR COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
DO WE WANNA BRING THOSE UP TOGETHER? SEPARATE? DO YOU WANNA BRING 'EM SEPARATE? MM-HMM,
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA BRING ANY ITEMS TOGETHER? OKAY.
I, I JUST WAS SAYING 'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF SIMILAR.
TWO DIFFERENT, THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT MOTIONS.
[18) Consider and Possible Action to cancel all city council and city manager's credit cards.]
GOOD.ITEM NUMBER 18, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO CANCEL THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER'S CARDS, UH, COUN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, IS I YOUR ITEM, SIR? YEAH.
UM, SO THIS AGENDA ITEM, I JUST WANT TO FIRST START TO BEGIN BY STATING THAT I'M NOT GONNA SPEND TIME TRYING TO CONVINCE OR INFLUENCE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ON THEIR USE OF THE CREDIT CARD OR THEIR CHOICES, WHETHER GOOD OR BAD, WHETHER RATHER I'M GONNA FOCUS ON THE COMMUNITY OF RESIDENTS, UM, THAT HAVE SHARED WITH ME THEIR CONCERNS, THEIR QUESTIONS, AND THEY'RE SEEKING SOME TRANSPARENCY ON THE ISSUES OF CREDIT CARD EXPENDITURES.
BECAUSE ULTI, ULTIMATELY, IT IS NOT OUR MONEY.
SO TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT, UH, CREDIT CARDS, UM, THEY'RE NOT USED IN EVERY CITY, BUT WE HAVE 'EM HERE.
AND FROM THE BEGINNING IN 2021, THERE WAS CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND IT WAS DEBATABLE ABOUT WHETHER THERE WAS BUSINESS OR PERSONAL EXPENSES, SOME REIMBURSEMENTS, OPEN RECORDS, ET CETERA.
AND THE AUDIT, UM, COST THE TAXPAYERS $45,000 RIGHT AWAY SOON AS CREDIT CARDS WERE ISSUED TWO YEARS LATER.
UM, BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN THE END OF THE STORY.
AT THE END OF THE STORY, THE AUDIT DIDN'T EVEN FIND REALLY, IT DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY GUIDANCE TO CREDIT CARD POLICIES.
SO, UM, THERE ARE REALLY NO GOOD ANSWERS.
WAS IT REIMBURSABLE? WAS IT PERSONAL? WAS IT BUSINESS? UM, YOU DECIDE.
SO, UM, IT BASICALLY, IT JUST LEAVES A POLICY OUT THERE THAT'S FLOATING THAT SAYS EACH COUNCIL MEMBER MUST USE THEIR OWN DISCRETION.
UM, IT'S BASIC AND JUDGMENT FOR SPENDING.
THIS IS MY INTERPRETATION OF IT.
JUST WANNA BE VERY CLEAR TOO, THE TAXPAYERS.
AND SO TO THE MATTER OF THE CREDIT CARDS, HERE WE ARE ONCE AGAIN.
SO DID WE LEARN ANY LESSONS FROM THE LAST AUDIT? WELL, HERE WE ARE ONCE AGAIN.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING, UH, RECEIPTS, WE'RE SEEING OPEN RECORDS IN SOCIAL MEDIA, WHATEVER.
UM, THERE'S FREQUENT, AND THESE WERE, AND MOST OF THIS IS BECAUSE THERE'S FREQUENT TRAVEL WITH STAFF.
THERE'S SOME LAVISH MEALS, UPGRADED HOTELS, VALET PARKING MEALS, HOME DINNERS WITH, WITH FAMILY, ET CETERA.
SO AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS JUST DEBATABLE.
IS IT NECESSARY? OR FRANKLY, SOME OF IT'S STILL HIGHLY SKEPTICAL.
UM, WHETHER IT IS NECESSARY OR ESSENTIAL.
SO JUST GETTING BACK TO THE CREDIT CARDS, THE CARDS ARE PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THEY ARE A GOLDEN TICKET TO SPENDING IN OUR APPROVED BUDGET.
SO, SO THE BUDGET IS APPROVED, BUT WHAT THE CREDIT CARD DOES, IT PROVIDES A RAPID ACCESS TO SPENDING AND LINE ITEMS SUCH AS TRAVEL.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAJOR EXPENSE TRAVEL.
OKAY, SO I'M GONNA COME BACK TO THAT.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE BECAUSE IT CAN
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LEAD TO MINGLING AND EVEN UNDERMINING STAFF MEMBERS, UM, PRESUMABLY.SO THIS HAS A RESULT THAT IT, UM, REDUCES OR REDUCTIVELY REDUCES THE PUBLIC TRUST.
IT RAISES QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF FUNDS INTEGRITY AND THE RESPONSIBLE USE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
BUT THE LARGEST NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT I SEE IS THAT IT INFLATES AND IT IMBALANCES ALL OUR COUNCIL SPENDING BECAUSE IT CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT TO SPEND IT ALL OR LOSE IT.
SO AS WE'RE MOVING TO THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON, WE'RE GONNA HAVE NEW, NEW BUDGETS.
UM, SO, SORRY, I HAD A LOT HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN.
UM, SO HOW DOES IT DO THAT? OKAY.
BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE MONEY IS BUDGETED AND THE CREDIT IN, IN OUR BUDGET, 'CAUSE WHAT YOU GET IS, WELL, IF IT'S BUDGETED, WHY DOES IT MATTER? WELL, IT DOES MATTER BECAUSE THE CREDIT CARD ALLOWS YOU TO DRAW DOWN A CERTAIN AMOUNT, AND THEN THE NEXT LINE ITEM HAS TO MOVE OVER TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT IS BEING SPENT OUTTA CREDIT CARD.
AND YOU CAN SPEND IT, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED.
BUT, UM, THIS INFLATES THE BUDGET BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET AN ACCURATE, UM, PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT DO, WHAT DO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER ACTUALLY NEED, UM, GOING INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CAUSING A CYCLE.
SO IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CREDIT CARDS AND A POLICY THAT, UM, DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT ISN'T STRICTER, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR BUDGETS GROW BECAUSE THE MOST OF THE DRAW OF THE CREDIT CARD, AS I SEE, IS FROM THE TRAVEL.
SO, UM, HOW DO WE FIND A BETTER SOLUTION FOR THIS? UM, YOU KNOW, THE MOTION I, I, HAVING EXPLAINED THIS, THE MOTION I'D LIKE TO MAKE, UM, DO I MAKE A MOTION NOW OR LET PEOPLE THIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN I'LL MAKE MY MOTION AT THE END.
AND, BUT THIS, THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO BRING UP ON TERMS OF THE CREDIT CARD.
YOU'D LIKE TO OPEN UP A MOTION? UH, MAYOR MITCHELL, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, MAYOR.
YEAH, I JUST BRINGING BACK MEMORIES OF THE ZOOM MEETINGS.
CAN Y'ALL SEE MY SCREEN? CAN Y'ALL READ THAT ON THE SCREEN? HELLO? YES.
I'M SORRY THAT INTERNET'S A LITTLE BAD, BUT THERE IT IS FOR ALL TO SEE.
SO I SPENT A COUPLE TI UH, A COUPLE OF DAYS GOING BACK THROUGH MY OLD EMAILS AND, UH, PHOTOGRAPHIC RECORDS, OLD BUDGETS, UH, TRYING TO COME UP WITH, UH, A LIST OF ALL THE OUT CITY TRAVELING THAT I'VE DONE OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
UH, AND I KNOW THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT IS CONTINUALLY BROUGHT UP.
UH, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A LOT HERE IN THE, THE LAST, UH, THREE OR FOUR MONTHS WITH REGARDS TO OUR SPENDING.
AND I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME OTHER TOPICS THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN IN THERE, UH, AND SOME ONLINE CHATTER.
UH, BUT HISTORICALLY THE ISSUE IS NOT NEW TO ME AT ALL.
UH, IT'S PROBABLY THE ITEM THAT I HAVE THE MOST ENGAGEMENT WITH, UH, ON THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, RELATIVE TO ANY OTHER TOPIC.
SO, UH, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE TRAVEL LOG THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH, UH, AND MAKE A, UH, AN EXPLANATION HISTORICALLY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, UH, OR WHY IT IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT ALLOWING FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO TRAVEL, UH, AND SEEK FURTHERING EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT.
BUT I ALSO WANNA TELL YOU THAT IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT A, UH, UH, AN OPINION THAT I HAD WHEN I FIRST STARTED.
SO I STARTED ACTUALLY IN, UH, 2016 ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND, UH, BACK THEN, THE CULTURE AND THE POLICIES, UH, WERE ACTUALLY, I WOULD SAY SORT OF PUNITIVE, UH, TOWARDS COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO TRAVELED OR WHO REQUESTED REIMBURSEMENTS FROM THE CITY FOR MEALS, UH, OR FOR ANY EXPENSES REALLY.
AND FOR EXAMPLE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S THERE OR NOT, BUT SHE CAN CONFIRM IT, UH, I SAW, UH, COM, UH, COUNCILOR HER IN THE AUDIENCE.
UH, SHE WAS REPLACED, UH, I, UM, UH, IN 2016 IN THE YEARS PRIOR.
IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THAT, SHE WENT, UH, ON A TRIP WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO, UH, ICSC IN LAS VEGAS.
AND SHE WAS, UH, HEAVILY CRITICIZED FOR THAT PRIVATELY AND PUBLICLY.
AND I'LL SAY TO MY SHAME, BACK IN 2016
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WHEN I RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL, I PROBABLY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT AS SORT OF AN EASY OPPORTUNITY TO GET PEOPLE UPSET, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE POLITICALLY ADVANTAGEOUS TOPIC, UH, FOR A CRITIC, UH, TO SEIZE ON, TO GET PEOPLE TO NOT LIKE A POLITICIAN THAN, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THEIR TRAVEL HABITS.UH, AND I WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE AND JOINED WITH THE CONSERVATIVE, UH, COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
UH, AND IT WASN'T UNTIL PROBABLY SIX MONTHS IN THAT I STARTED TO REALIZE THAT NOT ONLY WAS MY THINKING, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WRONG, UH, BUT IT WAS ALSO VERY DETRIMENTAL TO THE LONG-TERM, UH, UH, BENEFIT OF THE CITY.
UH, AND ULTIMATELY IT'S BECAUSE I FOUND OUT IN 2016 WHEN I WAS ELECTED THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING
I HAD NOT SERVED ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION BEFORE, UH, OF THE 18 COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I'VE SERVED WITH, I THINK MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE OF THEM, UH, SERVED ON ANY BOARD OR COMMISSION OR ANY, IN ANY CAPACITY, UH, FOR THE CITY, UH, IN TERMS OF TRAINING, UH, PRIOR TO HOLDING THE SEAT, MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
UH, AND I, I VERY MUCH RIGHT AWAY REALIZED THAT, NUMBER ONE, LIKE, YES, I KNOW WHAT MY FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS AND OPINIONS ARE.
I KNOW WHAT THE FEELINGS, EMOTIONS, AND OPINIONS OF THE PUBLIC ARE, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT DECISION IS FOR THE CITY BECAUSE I HAVE NOT LEARNED ANYTHING, UH, AND ONLY JUST HAVE MY BASE EMOTIONS TO GO ON.
UH, SO I DECIDED, AND I WAS TOLD IN 2017 WHEN I DECIDED TO RUN FOR MAYOR, THAT IF I PURSUED AN AGENDA THAT ALLOWED FOR THE, THE CITY TO DEVELOP A CULTURE OF TRAVELING, CONTINUING EDUCATION AND MODEST COMPENSATION SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME SECURITY IN THE POSITION, UH, THAT IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOME, YOU KNOW, A A POSITION MET WITH, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL OPPOSITION AND RIDICULE.
UH, IT HAS, UH, IT WAS THE PRIMARY TOPIC IN 2019, UH, WHEN THERE WAS AN EFFORT MADE, UH, FOR A RECALL PETITION.
MANY OF THE FOLKS EN ENGAGED IN THE ONLINE CHATTER, NOW WERE ENGAGED IN 2019 AT THAT TIME.
UH, AND ULTIMATELY IT COMES DOWN TO DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ABOUT THE, THE JOB.
WHAT MAKES A GREAT COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT MAKES A, UH, A GREAT MAYOR.
UH, BUT I TRAVELED, AND I CAN SHOW YOU HERE MY RECEIPTS, UH, WHERE I'VE GONE, WHAT I'VE DONE.
UH, THE ARGUMENT ABOUT THE CREDIT CARD, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, IN MY BONES IS A, IS A RED HERRING.
'CAUSE WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE FROM 2018 TO 2024, AS I'VE, UH, GONE AND PURSUED AND, UH, TRAVELED AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE GONE OUT AND, UH, TRAVELED, MET WITH OTHER CITIES, UH, MET WITH RETAILERS, UH, AND, AND PURSUED ONGOING EDUCATION, UM, IS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED MORE TRANSPARENT POLICIES.
THE, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE BUDGET AND THE RECORDS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I, MY TRAVELING WAS LIKE IN 2018, UH, I'M GIVING IT TO YOU AND IT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER TO FIND OUT, BUT IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND OUT, UH, WHAT WE WERE UP TO BACK IN 2018 BECAUSE WE JUST DID NOT HAVE THE POLICIES IN PLACE.
BUT OVER TIME, AS THE COUNTER COUNCIL STARTED TO ADAPT A CULTURE OF INVESTING IN THEMSELVES, AND INVESTING IN THE, IN THEIR, THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE LONG-TERM DECISIONS, UH, WE STARTED DEVELOPING MORE TRANSPARENT POLICIES.
UH, IT WAS NOT ALWAYS EASY, UH, BUT, UH, THE RE RE RESULT IS THAT WE NOW HAVE CALL CENTERS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH IS SOMETHING I'VE PURSUED.
UH, IN YEARS PAST, YOU COULD NOT KNOW HOW COUNCIL SPENT ITS MONEY OR WHO WAS SPENDING MONEY IN WHICH WAY.
AND THAT, UH, VERY MUCH BOTHERED ME.
UH, AND SO I PURSUED CALL CENTERS.
THE CREDIT CARD REALLY ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO THE, UH, A, A SIMPLE QUESTION.
AND THAT IS WHO IT SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FRONTING THE MONEY IN A LEGITIMATE COUNCIL EXPENSE SCENARIO.
AND THERE IS ROOM FOR DEBATE ON THAT.
UH, WE INITIALLY USED A REIMBURSEMENT, UH, UH, METHOD, BUT I FOUND THAT OFTENTIMES, UH, I WAS FOR MYSELF HAVING TO DO THINGS LIKE BOOKING HOTELS AND HAVING TO WAIT, PUTTING ON MY PERSONAL CARD, HAVING TO WAIT AS MUCH AS A MONTH FOR THE CITY TO HAVE TO PAY.
NOW, IF YOU THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS OR MYSELF SHOULD NOT BE TRAVELING, UH, TO A CONFERENCE OR, OR, OR PURSUING CONTINUING EDUCATION, UH, THEN YOU PROBABLY THINK THAT THAT'S A BAD IDEA ALTOGETHER.
BUT IF YOU HAVE THE OPINION THAT WE SHOULD INVEST AND ALLOW FOR A TRANSPARENT AND BUDGETED TRAVEL AMOUNT, UH, THEN ALLOWING FOR THE CITY TO PAY FOR IT UPFRONT AND THEN POSTING THOSE TRANSACTIONS EVERY MONTH AS THEY OCCUR, UH, I THINK IS PROBABLY MORE TRANSPARENT THAN SAYING, YOU SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
AND WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU SUBMIT FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
I, I JUST DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THAT IS APPROPRIATE OR FAIR.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE POLICY AS IT IS IN PLACE IS IF YOU WISH TO TRAVEL, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A BUDGETED AMOUNT.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF YOU KEEP ALL OF YOUR RECEIPTS AND THAT YOU SUBMIT THOSE RECEIPTS.
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ITEMIZED, UH, LISTS ON THE POLICY FOR WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT SPEND MONEY ON.AND THERE IS A LIMITED AMOUNT AND BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET.
AND THEN FINALLY, AS AN EXTRA STEP, ALL RECEIPTS ARE POSTED ONLINE, UH, AFTER THEY'RE SUBMITTED AND PROPERLY, UH, ACCOUNTED FOR THROUGH THE PAYMENT, UH, THE PAYROLL PROCESS.
AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, ANYONE CAN IMMEDIATELY SEE ANYWHERE WE EAT, INCLUDING DEL FRISCO'S AT A VISIONING WORKSHOP WHERE ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, INCLUDING ONE OF THE MEMBERS WHO SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS IN THE PICTURE THAT WAS HELD UP, SHE WAS THERE.
WE WERE ALL THERE PARTICIPATING IN THAT.
IT'S ALL VERY TRANSPARENT, REALLY JUST THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SPEND THAT MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND CUTTING CREDIT CARDS WILL NOT AFFECT THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
COULD I, UH, COUNCIL MAYOR PARSLEY, THANK YOU.
I HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO CHIME IN INTO THIS ITEM AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT.
'CAUSE I THINK I SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THIS ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO.
SO, UM, THERE IS A LOT TO BE SAID AND A LOT RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN DO TO COMPARE.
FIRST I WENT INTO ASK MYSELF, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? IS IT THE CARS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM OR IS IT THE BUDGET THAT WE ALL APPROVE? THAT IS A PROBLEM.
SO GOING INTO SEVERAL CITIES IN TEXAS TO SEE THAT HAVE SIMILAR POPULATION THAN WE DO HAVE, LIKE I WENT TO LEANDER POPULATION ABOUT 80 K, THEY RECEIVED NO COMPENSATION.
I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR BUDGET FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
CEDAR PARK, 77,000 PEOPLE, NO COMPENSATION, BUT ALL EXPENSES IS INCURRED, UH, IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THE OFFICIALS, UM, ARE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
SAN MARCOS, 72, THEY RECEIVE ABOUT 1300, 300 IS FOR CAR ALLOWANCE.
I BELIEVE THEIR HEALTHCARE IS 90% PAID.
AND THEY DO HAVE CREDIT CARDS.
VILLE, 66,000 PEOPLE, NO PAY POSITIONS, NO RICHLAND HILLS.
THEY HAVE THE PAY FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS $50 PER MEETING, PLUS ANY ACTUAL EXPENSES SUPPORTED IN WRITING, WHICH SHALL HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND RECEIVE APPROVAL.
SO WHEN I WAS LOOKING INTO, 'CAUSE I WAS, I WAS BIG INTO CANCELING THE CREDIT CARDS, BUT THEN I THOUGHT THE BENEFITS THAT I FIND WITH IT IS THAT I DON'T MIX MY PERSONAL CARDS WITH MY, UM, REGULAR.
I LIKE, THEY'RE JUST SEPARATE.
I EVEN HAVE A DIFFERENT WALLET FOR THE CITY CAR WHERE I PUT ALL MY RECEIPTS IN THERE SO I KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE I'M GONNA FIND EVERYTHING.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I FEEL LIKE IT ALSO BENEFITS IS LIKE IF I'M USING MY PERSONAL CREDIT CARD TO BOOK A HOTEL OR TO BOOK, UM, CONFERENCE, THEN MY CREDIT CARD GETS POINTS.
SO IF I WERE TO HAVE A BUDGET OF $5,000 TO TRAVEL OR FOR CONFERENCES, HOW MANY POINTS AM I GETTING OUT OF A CITY BUDGETED ITEM AND DO I NEED TO REPORT THAT? AND HOW DO YOU DO IT? SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CAME TO MY MIND, LIKE, I'M GOING TO BE USING ALL MY BUDGET WITH MY PERSONAL CARD, SUBMIT REIMBURSEMENT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M MAKING MONEY OUT OF THE CITY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL PLAY WITH FINANCES OR IF YOU NEED TO REPORT THAT TO THE IRS, I DON'T KNOW.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I DO FEEL THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY CARD, THE CITY CREDIT CARDS, UM, WHAT I FEEL LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINTS WE GET IS BECAUSE THE CARS ARE BEING MISUSED.
BUT HONESTLY, WE APPROVED THAT BUDGET.
THAT BUDGET WAS APPROVED BY FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE SITTING IN HERE, AND TWO, UM, OTHER MEMBERS.
SO IF THE PROBLEM IS THE TRAVELING RIGHT IN THE PROBLEM, IT IS THE USE OF CONTINUED PURCHASES OF COFFEE OR RESTAURANTS, THEN WHAT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO IS INSTEAD OF HAVING IT, UH, CONTRACTUAL SERVICES AS CATEGORY 52 AND WE HAVE FOR TRAVEL, WE HAVE BUDGET $5,200, THEN MAYBE TRAVELING AND MEALS NEED TO BE THEIR OWN CATEGORY.
AND WE NEED TO SET, UM, A CAP AND THOSE BUDGETED ITEMS THAT WE CANNOT GO OVER.
BECAUSE HAVING THAT UNDER THE CATEGORY 52 OPENS UP, LIKE WE HAVE $2,500 FOR SUBSCRIPTIONS THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY OF US HAVE COME CLOSE TO THAT.
AND THEN LEGAL SERVICES IS $5,200.
THAT ALSO IS MO FOR MOST OF US, IT'S STILL INTACT.
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SO IT ALLOWS FOR TRAVELING TO BORROW FROM THOSE, UH, LINE ITEMS, WHICH MEANS THAT THE BUDGET FOR TRAVELING CAN GO UP TO $20,000.SO I WILL, THE PROBLEM, IF, IF THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM, THEN WE NEED TO CAP TRAVELING AND FOOD AND MEALS AS A SEPARATE CATEGORY.
AND WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH THAT WE CANNOT GO ABOVE THOSE LIMITS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL THAT NEEDS TO BE ESTABLISHED.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, THERE ARE LINE ITEMS AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO CATEGORY 52, WHAT I HAVE, I HAVE TRAVEL MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT, MEMBERSHIPS, SUBSCRIPTIONS, LEGAL SERVICES.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE OTHER MEMBERS THAT HAVE COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC RELATIONSHIP RELATIONS, SPONSORSHIPS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LINE ITEM GOT ADDED.
IF IT NEEDED TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR US TO ADD IT.
I THOUGHT THAT SPONSORSHIPS WERE NOT ALLOWED.
SO I, I HAD THAT QUESTION YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THAT.
AND THE, I KNOW YOU, YOU HAVE THE HAND UP.
WELL, I HAVE TO CALL A POINT OF ORDER BECAUSE THE ITEM IS PRESENTED AS CREDIT CARDS BEING CUT UP AND WE ARE TALKING COMPENSATION LINE ITEMS AND BUDGET AND ALL OF THAT IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE WAY.
SO WHAT IS HE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? IT SAYS TAKING THE CARDS AWAY, BUT THE, THE CARD WILL, THE BUDGET WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE.
'CAUSE HE WAS ADDRESSING TRAVELING WITH IT.
YOU DON'T DO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO CUT IT, CHANCES ARE WILL, IT WILL FAIL.
SO YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU WANNA GET DONE.
WELL, WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION.
AND YOU, YOU'RE MAKING EXCELLENT POINTS ON THE TRAVEL.
THE LAST THING, COUNCILOR PARSLEY.
YEAH, MAY I, YOU WERE ENGAGING HIM, SO YOU WERE MAKING HIM TALK, RIGHT? OH, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, I HAVE USED THIS PROBABLY ONE TIME.
I THINK WE SHOULD GO TO A REQUEST FOR EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT FORM.
AND WE SUBMIT OUR RECEIPTS WITH OUR EXPENSES ONCE A MONTH.
AND IF YOU LOST YOUR RECEIPT AND IT WAS A CITY, UM, THAT'S A, YOU DID A CITY PURCHASE, THAT'S A POINT OF ORDER THAT, I'M SORRY, THAT'S, THAT IS NOT THE, HOW THIS ITEM LISTED ON THE AGENDA.
SO THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THIS DISCUSSION IS LIKE, NEEDS ITS OWN, UM, DIFFERENT DAY.
LIKE IF WE WANTED TO DO A WORKSHOP ABOUT THE COUNCIL CREDIT CARDS, THEN THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO GO.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.
CAN I JUMP IN BACK IN? YEAH, WE GOTTA GIVE EVERYBODY FIRST.
I'M NOT DUMB, BUT ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCIL
UM, WE ALL, WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE, WE SEE THE NUMBERS, WE SEE THE RECEIPTS.
I'M NOT GONNA GO THERE, BUT I WANNA GO AND, UM, ASK BRIAN FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CREDIT CARDS THEMSELVES EVERY MONTH, HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT IS BEING USED FROM CITY STAFF TO HAVE TO PROCESS ALL THE FEES OR ALL THE CREDIT CARDS ALONG WITH THE TRAVEL? UH, I UNDERSTAND MAYORS MITCHELL'S POINT ABOUT THE TRAVEL, YOU'VE GOTTA GO TO CONFERENCES AND GET TRAINING AND SO FORTH.
I THINK THE OTHER ISSUE IS, IS THE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CREDIT CARDS, IT'S THE USAGE, THE DAILY USAGES.
I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING ON THAT END.
BUT MY QUESTIONS BASICALLY TO YOU, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT WHEN YOU'RE DONE.
UM, THE, UH, MY QUESTION TO YOU, BRIAN, IS HOW MUCH TIME AND EFFORT IS BEING UTILIZED FROM CITY STAFF PERSPECTIVE ON PROCESSING THESE, UM, THESE CREDIT CARDS ON A MONTHLY BASIS? I DON'T HAVE A A GOOD ANSWER FOR YOU.
ON A MONTHLY BASIS, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT, IT, IT, UH, IS ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN FTE, SO THAT WE'RE SPENDING TO KEEP UP WITH THE PROGRAM.
WHAT WOULD THAT BE? I'M SORRY.
70, 75% OF A POSITION'S COST 75% OF THE ACTUAL POSITION OF THE EMPLOYEE OR OF AN EMPLOYEE.
SO 75% OF THEIR TIME AS AN EMPLOYEE IS JUST TO PROCESS THE CREDIT CARDS MONTHLY.
IT'S, IT'S RELATED TO, UM, KEEPING TRACK OF THE RECEIPTS, UH, MAKING SURE THE RECEIPTS AND THE ITEMS ARE POSTED TO THE CORRECT ACCOUNT NUMBERS, MAKING SURE ALL THAT INFORMATION IS POSTED ONLINE, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF ENCOMPASSED IN THAT PROGRAM.
ANYONE ELSE? I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE A BRIEF.
AND I DO THINK, UH, MAYBE THIS NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO LET THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND.
WE DO HEAR THEM, WE SEE WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, AND THE TRAVEL IS, AS I SAID, I I WANNA BRING UP THAT THERE IS A STIPEND.
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OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR SERVICE AND THEN WE GET A STIPEND, A $500 STIPEND THAT IS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE EXPENDITURES OF MEALS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.BUT THE CREDIT CARD AS THE CREDIT CARD, WHAT BOTHERS ME, WHAT WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT WE HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR TRAVEL.
SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE IN, IN THE BUDGET PLUS THE STIPEND.
AND THEN WHEN YOU TAKE MORE TRIPS IN THE YEAR TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SEE MORE OF THESE PROJECTS.
SO AS THEY TRAVEL, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY DEPLETE THAT LINE ITEM, BUT THE CREDIT CARD LETS THEM REPLACE IT FROM THE OTHER LINE ITEMS. BUT YOU CANNOT DO THAT IN THE STIPEND.
SO THAT'S WHERE MY POINT IS THAT IF WE, LET'S JUST MAKE THAT LINE ITEM LARGER SO THAT WE DON'T INCREASE OUR BUDGETS EVERY YEAR BECAUSE SOME DISTRICTS ARE USING UP MORE, WHICH HAS GIVEN US AN INACCURATE VIEW OF WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED, YOU KNOW, TO, TO DO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO UP HERE, YOU KNOW, A NON FULL-TIME POSITION.
WHAT IS IT THAT WE REALLY NEED? HOW MUCH IS TRAVEL IS NECESSARY? AND LET'S JUST PUT THAT IN THERE SO THAT WE DON'T DO ANY DOUBLE DIPPING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
MAY I CHIME IN INTO THE STIPEND COMMENT? OH, MAYOR MITCHELL.
YEAH, SO I'LL JUST BE BRIEF ON A, ON A COUPLE OF THE POINTS THAT WERE, UH, THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
FIRST WAS THE, UH, COMMENT BY, UH, COUNCILOR TOBIAS, WHICH IS WELL, WELL RECEIVED, WHICH HAS BEEN THE, THE CONSISTENT CRITICISM ON, UH, THE DAILY USE OF SOMETHING LIKE A LUNCH OR A COFFEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
AND SO, FOR THE RECORD, UM, UH, THE, THE REASON THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I HAVE PUT FORWARD AND SUBMITTED, UH, CHARTS TO THE CITY AS OPPOSED TO NOT, I DON'T ALWAYS DO THAT.
UH, BUT, UH, TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN GIVE YOU A BUNCH OF EXAMPLES.
UH, SAY SOMEBODY WANTS TO MEET WITH ME, AND ESPECIALLY HISTORICALLY, UH, THEY OFTEN WANNA MEET AT A PLACE LIKE A COFFEE SHOP.
AND IF IT'S A RESIDENT, MAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE COMFORTABLE PAYING OR NOT PAYING, UH, SAY IT'S A DEVELOPER, SOMEBODY WHO HAS A PROPOSITION, SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN ITEM OR AN ISSUE OR FRUSTRATION THAT THEY WANNA BRING FORWARD.
UH, OFTENTIMES THEY WILL, WHO PAYS DO I PAY? DO THEY PAY? UH, AND, UH, I HAVE FOUND, UH, I LEARNED THIS LESSON HONESTLY FROM A JOURNALIST, UH, A WHILE BACK WHO WOULD NOT LET ME, UH, PAY FOR A CUP OF COFFEE, UH, BECAUSE THEY WANNA MAINTAIN A CERTAIN T UH, TYPE OF INDEPENDENCE.
SOMETIMES I PAY FOR A CUP OF COFFEE IN ORDER TO HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF INDEPENDENCE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO ALLOW FOR, UH, NUMBER ONE, UH, SOMEBODY WHO'S TAKING TIME OUT TO INTERACT WITH THE MAYOR TO HAVE TO COME AND SPEND MONEY TO DO SO, BECAUSE I'VE ONLY HAD AN OFFICE FOR ABOUT NINE MONTHS OUTTA THE EIGHT YEARS.
UH, UH, AND ALSO SOMETIMES IF I'M AT A LUNCH, AND MAYBE IT'S A DEVELOPER OR SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN TOWN WHO'S GOT AN ISSUE BEFORE THE COUNCIL THAT THEY WANT TO TALK TO ME ABOUT.
AND A LUNCH MEAL IS OFTEN WHEN PEOPLE GET BREAKS WHO ARE WORKING.
YOU CAN'T, YOU'RE NOT JUST FREE TO, UH, MEET, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN MEET IN THE MORNING OVER COFFEE AT LUNCH, OR YOU CAN MEET LATE IN THE, IN OVER A MEAL.
BUT OFTENTIMES, UH, I DON'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE TO, TO, AND THEY FEEL OBLIGED OFTENTIMES TO WANNA PAY FOR MY FOOD.
UH, AND I THINK OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS PROBABLY EXPERIENCED THAT AS WELL.
ME, UH, I OFTENTIMES FIND MYSELF SAYING, ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA PUT THIS ON THE CITY.
THE CITY IS, THIS IS A MAYOR AND CONSTITUENT OR MAYOR, AN APPLICANT MEETING.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS ON ITS FACE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT PAYING, DOING ME A FAVOR, AND I'M NOT DOING YOU A FAVOR.
AND I'VE FOUND THAT TO BE VERY HELPFUL, AND IT'S SOMETHING I'VE DONE NOW FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS.
UH, SO IT'S A, A PRETTY BAKED IN POLICY FOR WHY THE EVERY DAY.
UH, AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COST CENTER QUESTION THAT, UH, COUNCILOR ZUNIGA BROUGHT UP, UH, YOU'RE CORRECT.
THE ITEMIZATION OF THE BUDGET THAT HAS DIFFERENT, UH, UH, LINE ITEMS IS NOT VERY ACCURATE TO HOW THAT COUNCIL IS SPINNING.
AND THAT IS AN AREA OF WHERE TRANSPARENCY IS LACKING, UH, BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S EVEN PROBABLY GONE ON ONE TRIP, MAYBE TWO TRIPS IN A YEAR, UH, WILL HAVE BLOWN THROUGH THEIR TRAVEL BUDGET, AND IT WILL COME FROM OTHER BUCKETS WITHIN THEIR OVERALL BUDGET.
IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO WHEN WE ESTABLISHED THE COST CENTER BUDGETING SYSTEM, CUSTOMER PARTS, I BELIEVE WAS THERE.
SO IT PROBABLY, I'M THINKING MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO, UH, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS PROBLEM IN GREAT DETAIL BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THE 2,500 FOR SUBSCRIPTIONS AND THE VARIOUS ITEMS WAS NOT REALLY VERY ACCURATE.
AND WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION AS A COUNCIL WITH THE PUBLIC THERE ABOUT WHAT, THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OVERALL BUDGET.
AND IF THEY SAVED MONEY IN ONE AREA AND SPENT IT IN A DIFFERENT AREA, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY WANTED TO USE THEIR BUDGET, THAT BECAUSE THE CHARTER ALLOWS FOR, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FOR THEM TO BE REIMBURSED FOR NECESSARY
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BUSINESS, WE FELT THAT THAT WAS OKAY.AND SO, YES, THERE ARE LINE ITEMS THAT DO MOVE, AND I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT MAYBE CHANGING THAT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
BUT WE NEED TO DO THAT AS A PART OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS.
NOT THIS, OUR HAIR IS ON FIRE EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
AND BECAUSE FRANKLY, THE RULES OF COUNCIL ARE DESIGNED SO THAT WE DON'T GET COMPLETELY STUCK ON A BAD DECISION.
YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL, UH, THAT MR. ROBINSON, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE GUYS ARE STILL THERE, BUT IF THEY ARE, THE, THE COMMENTARY IS NOT LOST ON ME, THAT THEY GET TO DECIDE WHO THEY WANNA VOTE FOR AND THAT'S HOW THEY TAKE OUT THEIR, UH, THAT THAT'S THE ULTIMATE CONSEQUENCE.
IT'S WHETHER OR NOT WE WIN OR LOSE IN AN UPCOMING ELECTION.
AND THAT JUST, THAT INFLUENCES WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO STAY AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CRITICIZE OR ENGAGE WITH THEM, UH, WHETHER WE SPEND MONEY OR DON'T.
BUT THAT'S THE ULTIMATE ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE'VE AGREED ON A SET OF FRAMEWORKS, WE CAN IMPROVE IT IN THE BUDGETING SYSTEM, BUT WE DO NOT NEED TO KEEP HAVING THESE ITEMS COME BEFORE COUNCIL EVERY MEETING, UH, AND CONTINUE TO, UH, HASH THIS OUT THE WAY THAT WE ARE.
IT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE AND WE'RE LETTING THE COMMUNITY DOWN.
IF WE KEEP HAVING HOUR AFTER HOUR OF DISCUSSION ON THAT, JUST CHIME BACK IN.
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THERE WAS, UH, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF THE CREDIT CARD THAT THE, EVEN THE FINANCE REVIEW COMMITTEE, UM, DID NOT INTEND OR TO SEE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS, UH, MAYOR BECAUSE, UH, UH, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU SEE CAN OCCUR SO THAT WE DON'T FALL BACK INTO LOOKING AT AN AUDIT SPENDING SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY AND THESE RECEIPTS AND OPEN RECS.
I MEAN, I WANNA PUT A CLOSE TO THAT.
AND SO EXPLAIN TO OUR TAXPAYERS THAT IT'S BASICALLY LINE ITEMS ARE BEING MOVED.
IT'S, IT IS IN THE BUDGET, BUT IT'S NECESSARILY ALSO, IT'S CREATING AN INCENTIVE FOR SOME MEMBERS TO SPEND IT ALL DOWN.
SO I WOULD, I'D RATHER SEE SOMETHING MORE ACCURATE IN, IN, IN THOSE LINE ITEMS SO THAT, UM, WE HAVE A BETTER BUDGET MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE'RE NOT JUST BLOWING UP DISTRICT AND IM BALANCING OURSELVES, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THESE POLICIES.
I, I CAN GIVE FLOWERS TO A DEVELOPER USING MY CREDIT CARD.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GONNA, THAT WOULD STOP ME.
I COULD SAY THAT IS A BUSINESS, UH, MEETING OR THAT'S SOMETHING.
SO I WANT THOSE THINGS NOT TO HAPPEN.
IT, IT CREATES A BAD LOOK ON OUR CITY AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT FROM, FROM EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVE.
MAYOR, MAY I ADD SOMETHING NOW? COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
UM, SO I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SUN THERE.
UM, I REMEMBER ASKING PEREZ UNDER AFTER 2022, AND I WENT TO WATCH THE MEETING AGAIN, AND I WATCHED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE MOTION TO REMOVE, TO WRITE THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE EXPENSE WAS FOR ON THE RECEIPT.
I DON'T, I MEAN, I ALWAYS DO IT.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY IT GOT REMOVED BECAUSE TO THAT POINT, I CAN GO TO WORK EVERY DAY AND GRAB A COFFEE AND AS LONG AS I SUBMIT MY ITEMIZED RECEIPT, THEN THE CITY'S GONNA PAY FOR IT.
AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL EVERY ANYONE WHAT THE, IF I'M LIKE GOING TO DO COUNCIL THINGS OR NOT, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY WRONG, LIKE THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, WHETHER SOMEBODY'S GOING TO WRITE TRUTHFUL STATEMENTS OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF DESCRIPTION OF, THIS IS WHY I'M SPENDING THIS MONEY, AND THEN YOU WRITE IT IN YOUR RECEIPT.
THE SECOND THING IS, IN 2022 THAT WE HAD THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE MEET, IT WAS, IF I RECALL A RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT COMMITTEE THAT IF, BECAUSE WE ALL WERE GOVERNING IN A DIFFERENT WAY, THAT YOU MAY MOVE, UM, FROM ONE LINE ITEM TO ANOTHER IF YOU WERE TO NEED TO DO SO.
AND BECAUSE IT WAS A TRIAL AND ERROR THING, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO DECIDE THAT MAYBE TRAVELING AND FOOD NEEDS TO BE THEIR OWN POCKET.
AND THEN WE NEED TO PROBABLY ESTABLISH THAT THOSE THINGS CANNOT GO ABOVE THE AMOUNT THAT HAS BEEN BUDGETED.
BECAUSE AGAIN, UM, IT, IT WAS, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GONNA USE IT, BUT WE APPROVED THE BUDGET.
SO THAT NEEDS TO, THERE NEEDS TO BE A REVISION, MAYBE GOING ON AN AVERAGE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE ALL SPENDING FOR US TO ESTABLISH THE NEW AMOUNTS AS WE GET TO THE BUDGET SEASON.
SO THOSE WERE MORE, AND THE THIRD THING IS WHEN THE STIPEND WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, WE NEVER ESTABLISHED WHAT THE STIPEND WAS FOR, WHICH IS BASICALLY WE ARE INCREASING THE SALARY.
AND, UM, AND IT FOR SOME MAY HAVE BEEN FOR COFFEE, FOR OTHER ONES, MAY HAVE BEEN FOR A MEAL.
SO I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO DO ANY SORT OF INCREASE OF STIPEND TO GET RID OF THE CARD BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S GONNA USE THE STIPEND FOR.
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SO, MAYOR MITCHELL, I JUST WANNA SAY THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE STIPEND WAS AS IT RELATED TO, UH, UH, CERTAIN COUNCIL EXPENSES THAT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, INCLUDING STATE AND FEDERAL LAW, SOME EXPENSES THAT ARE BEING INCURRED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, SUCH AS FUEL IN YOUR OWN VEHICLE OR WEAR AND TEAR OF YOUR VEHICLE, TRAVELING TO CITY AND FROM CITY FUNCTIONS THAT ARE NOT ENCAPSULATED IN A HOTEL STAY OR A, OR A MEAL.UH, AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE STIPEND.
AND IT'S LIKE WE'VE COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION.
IT'S BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, WAYS THAT THE POSITION AND DOING THE JOB WITH TRAVELING, A LOT OF THAT IS LOCAL TRAVELING CONSTANTLY AROUND TO VARIOUS EVENTS AND MEETINGS, WHICH AS HAS BEEN NOTED, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO NOT GET PAID VERY MUCH FOR, BUT THE THINKING HA WAS WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE SHOULDN'T, UH, MAKE COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTUALLY LOSE AND NOT BE ABLE TO BE RE UH, RECUPERATING, UH, OF THEIR EXPENSES WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY NOT PAID VERY MUCH.
BUT THEN ALSO LOSING BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO GO AROUND AND, AND PUT IN THOSE EXPENSES, UH, IN OTHER WAYS THAT THEY CAN'T GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR.
SO TO TRY TO TAKE THE STA THE, THE $500 STIPEND AND CONNECT IT TO THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAVE REIMBURSABLES FOR FOOD AND TRAVEL IS, IS AN ERROR THAT IS CAUSING PEOPLE TO BE CONFUSED WHEN IT WAS ALWAYS SET UP VERY CLEARLY.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL JUST END ON THIS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS IS GONNA GO, BUT I WANT THE DAIS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR TO ALWAYS JUST KEEP THIS IN MIND, WHETHER IT'S YOUR DISTRICT OR NOT, EVERY SINGLE, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS APPROVED ITEMS, YOU'RE THE APPROVED BUDGET, IT'S TAXPAYER DOLLARS, IT'S THEIR MONEY.
SO WE CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT TRAVEL EXPENSES.
WE CAN GO ON ABOUT THE CREDIT CARD BUDGET.
IT'S THEIR MONEY, THE STIPEND, SO FORTH.
AND YOU GUYS REPRESENT ME AS WELL.
SO WHEN YOU WE'RE ALL REPRESENTING EACH OTHER AND, AND I, AND I KNOW IT, IT, IT SEEMS FRUSTRATING, MAYOR THAT YOU'RE HEARING ME SAY THIS, I CAN SEE IT, BUT WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ROOT OF IT ALL.
YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING WE ALL KNOW THAT, RIGHT? YEAH, I KNOW.
SO, SO THE, THE MOST POWERFUL AND MOST VULNERABLE AND SACRED ELEMENTS TO ANY RELATIONSHIP, WHETHER IT'S WITH COWORKERS OR WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS TO THE RESIDENTS OR WHOEVER IT IS, GUYS, IT'S TRUST.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO ESTABLISH TO THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO TRUST US.
OKAY? THEY HAVE TO TRUST US WHEN WE USE THESE CREDIT CARDS.
DO WE NEED TO TRAVEL? YES, WE DO.
I GO TO TML AND HAVE I USED MY CARD BEFORE? YES.
AND MAYOR MITCHELL, HAVE WE GONE OUT TO LUNCH BEFORE? YES, WE HAVE.
I HAVEN'T USED THE CARD BEFORE, BUT IT'S BEING RESPONSIBLE AND I THINK THE WHOLE ISSUE IS, IS US FOR US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS MOVING FORWARD FROM TODAY TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE AND BE MORE LUCRATIVE AND BE MORE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE SPENDING ON.
SO THAT WAY, AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, MAYOR, WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
SO THAT'S ALL I ASK IS THAT WE JUST COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING FORWARD, WE USE DISCRETION AS MUCH AS WE CAN AND, AND JUST MOVE FORWARD AROUND.
I CAN'T SEE ALL TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK.
SO I, I, I DO THINK THE ACTIONABLE ITEM FROM THIS, WHICH I DO APPRECIATE, NOT, NOT THAT IT'S BEING BROUGHT UP BECAUSE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA ARE SAYING IS CORRECT.
THERE, THERE ARE SOME WAYS WE CAN BE MORE TRANSPARENT ABOUT OUR PROCESS.
IT CUTTING UP THE CREDIT CARD DOES NOT CHANGE THE TRANSPARENCY, BUT, BUT TWEAKING OUR COST CENTERS YEAH.
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WHEN, WHEN WE SAY THIS IS HOW MUCH IS BUDGETED FOR TRAVEL AND EXPENSES PER COUNCIL MEMBER, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, UH, UH, WE SHOULD STICK TO THAT.
I THINK THAT IS MORE TRANSPARENT AND A GOOD SORT OF COMPROMISE.
AND, BUT WE CAN DO THAT AS A PART OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS, WHICH IS LITERALLY THE NEXT LIKE, MEETING AFTER NEXT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE FRONT HOUR LONG CONVERSATION OF A COUNCIL MEETING.
AND I THINK THAT IT'D BE FAIR THAT ALL SEVEN OF US WILL COME UP WITH DIFFERENT WAYS MOVING FORWARD ON HOW WE CAN BETTER THIS PROCESS.
I'LL, I'LL WEIGH IN REAL QUICK.
UM, LOOK, I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST HIT THE DAIS, WE WOULD TURN IN RECEIPTS.
I, I REMEMBER WAITING A MONTH.
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IT TOOK A MONTH TO GET A RECEIPT BACK TO GET COMPENSATED FOR WHATEVER OUR EXPENDITURE I HAD.UM, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA TRAVEL.
LOOK, ANYONE THAT SAYS THAT THEY'RE GONNA RUN FOR THIS POSITION, NOT TRAVEL, THEY GOT ANOTHER THING COMING.
I MEAN, I REMEMBER MY VERY FIRST MONTH ON COUNCIL, I HAD TO GO TAKE TML TRAINING.
I REMEMBER GETTING ON, I PUT IT DOWN ON FACEBOOK, I WAS PROUD THAT I WAS DOING MY JOB.
I'M GETTING THE TRAINING AND SOMEBODY WROTE DOWN ON THE CITY'S DIME AND MY RESPONSE WAS LIKE, WOW, I AM HERE ON THE CITY'S DIME.
I'M HERE GETTING TRAINING FOR THE CITY'S DIME.
AND MY RESPONSE WAS, I PAID FOR MY GAS AND I TOOK VACATION TIME FOR MY REAL JOB TO BE HERE AND I'M NOT GETTING COMPENSATED FOR IT.
AND SHE SAID, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, IS WHAT SHE SAID.
UM, I, I ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I WAS GONNA ANSWER THAT.
I MEAN, IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO ANSWER THAT.
'CAUSE I WAS LIKE, I AM SITTING HERE AND I'M SITTING HERE ON THE CITY DIME, STAYING IN A HOTEL, DOING MANDATORY TRAINING.
AND UH, SO I WAS LIKE, SO RIGHT OFF THE BAT YOU'RE GONNA TRAVEL.
I MEAN, NO ONE CAN SAY YOU'RE NOT.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONFERENCES.
WE GO, A LOT OF US SIT ON A LOT OF BOARDS.
I I SIT ON QUITE A FEW BOARDS REPRESENTING THE CITY OF KYLE.
UM, I DON'T TURN IN GAS RECEIPTS.
AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT, UH, IF I TURN IN A GAS RECEIPT FOR $30, THAT GAS RECEIPT WILL NOW AS A TAXPAYER COST ME PROBABLY ABOUT 90 BUCKS.
'CAUSE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH STAFF.
THEY HAVE TO DO A, UH, STIPEND ON IT AND MILEAGE.
I, IT IS CHEAPER FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO EAT THE GAS, PUT IT OUTTA MY OWN POCKET THAN TO TURN IN A RECEIPT.
AND THAT'S ME BEING A GOOD STEWARD.
UH, OUR TAX DOLLARS FOR MYSELF AS WELL.
I COME IN FROM AUSTIN FOR MY JOB TO MEET, UM, HAVE MEETINGS HERE AT THE CITY HALL AND, UM, I JUST PUT FOR GAS OUTTA MY OWN POCKET.
SO IT'S, IT'S COME ONE OF THE THINGS I DO, UH, MY CREDIT CARD, I'VE BEEN ALWAYS VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT MY CREDIT CARD.
UM, YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT A LOT OF MY EXPENDITURES.
I'M VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE CREDIT CARD AS WELL.
I'M LIMITED ON TRAVEL BECAUSE OF MY REAL JOB.
I ONLY HAVE SO MANY WEEKS OF VACATION PER YEAR.
SO I'VE, I'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T EXCEED THOSE.
'CAUSE THEN I'M NOT GETTING PAID FOR THOSE DAYS.
SO, UH, BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
BUT THE BEST PART OF OUR CREDIT CARDS IS THAT IT'S TRANSPARENT.
SO IT, THE RESIDENTS HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE WHEN WE HAVE PURCHASES ON THERE THAT DON'T ALIGN WITH THE VALUES THEY BELIEVE IN.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT COUNCIL MARGA DID MAKE A GOOD POINT ON THE TRAVEL.
UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PULLING FROM DIFFERENT FUNDS IS IMPORTANT AND BEING MORE EFFICIENT.
BUT, UH, THE OTHER THING, THE FINAL THING IS THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE AFFORD AFFORDED THE RIGHT TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD IT OR CAN AFFORD TO TRAVEL OR TO MOVE.
UM, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE NO MATTER WHAT THEIR ECONOMIC, UH, CLASS IS.
YOU KNOW, THE CITY PICKS UP THEIR TRAVEL AND THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE MEANS WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE, HONESTLY, THINK, JUST THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE.
I WAS SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT ALL THE CONVERSATIONS I KEPT THINKING ABOUT IT.
OKAY, SO WE DO AWAY WITH CREDIT CARDS AND NOW SOMEBODY'S PAYING OUTTA THE POCKET.
WHAT IF SOMEBODY RUNS FOR THE DAIS THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE MEANS TO DO THAT AND CAN'T TRAVEL? I MEAN, ARE WE SAYING THAT PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD, UH, TO BE ON THE DAIS CAN'T RUN FOR OFFICE? I MEAN THIS, THIS SHOULD BE AN OFFICE THAT EVERYBODY GETS TO RUN FOR.
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S GONNA AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY DESERVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THIS DAIS.
I KNOW I DON'T WANNA DO THIS JOB FOREVER.
THE REWARD'S NOT ALWAYS GREAT.
AND LOOK, I'LL TELL YOU, THE AMOUNT OF HATE YOU GET IS CRAZY.
I MEAN, UH, I'M GLAD THAT WHEN I GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT, THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON I ANSWER TO.
AS LONG AS THAT PERSON WHEN I'M PRAYING TO 'EM KNOWS THAT I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT.
AND, UH, I, I KNOW I'M ON SOAPBOX NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, I WORK REALLY, REALLY, REALLY HARD TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT HERE.
I WORKED IN THE COMMITTEE FOR 30 YEARS BEFORE I RAN FOR OFFICE.
I SERVED IN THIS COMMITTEE FOR 30 YEARS BEFORE I RAN FOR OFFICE.
HOW MUCH SERVICE DOES EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE? I GAVE TO THE COMMUNITY ALL I HAD AND THEN RAN FOR OFFICE.
UM, SO I DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND THAT'S ALL I WANNA DO.
I THINK THE REST OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO EXTENT TRY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
BUT THE BEAUTY IS THAT IT'S TRANSPARENT.
SO MAYOR MITCHELL, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO WE, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION CONTINUE FOR, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE BOARD.
YEAH, IT'S MY AGENDA ITEM WITH OUR CURRENT DID YOU NOT MOTION? I DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION YET.
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SORRY.I'M, I HAVE, I I HAVE DULY RECOGNIZED THAT I HAVE THE FLOOR.
YOU HAVE THE, YOU DO NOT GET THE RIGHT TO MAKE A MOTION.
I, BECAUSE YOUR, THAT THIS WAS MY AGENDA ITEM.
MAYOR MITCHELL, YOU HAVE THE COURT.
IT MEAN YOU GET TO MAKE THE MOTIONS.
RIGHT? I'D LIKE TO, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO, UM, UH, UH, CON TO CONTINUE FORWARD, UH, WITH THE CURRENT, UH, POLICY WITH REGARDS TO CREDIT CARDS, UH, AND, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS, UH, AND OUR COST CENTERS AND DIRECT STAFF, UH, TO ANALYZE COUNCIL, UH, TRAVEL EXPENSE HABITS AND BRING A PROPOSAL AS A PART OF THE BUDGETING PROCESS THAT MORE ACCURATELY REFLECTS OUR TRAVEL AND EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS SO THAT IT CAN BE PROPERLY BUDGETED.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR MITCHELL, SECOND BY DR. HARRIS IN DISCUSSION.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF STAFF BRINGS BACK TO US, UM, A PROPOSAL FOR TRAVELING, ARE WE GONNA CONTINUE WITH THE CREDIT CARDS OR IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR US WHEN THAT DISCUSSION COMES BACK TO MAYBE GO INTO DOING A REQUEST FOR LIKE EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT PROCEDURE AND USE IN THESE CASES, UM, A FORM IN ORDER TO GET REIMBURSED USING YOUR PERSONAL CARD? 'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE TRANSPARENT.
IT, IT DOES MEAN THAT, IT MEANS, LIKE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT IF WE SAID YES RIGHT NOW, AND BY THE TIME THE STAFF BRINGS A PROPOSAL, WE CAN STILL HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE CARDS.
NO, WE'RE BRINGING BACK, NO, WE CANNOT.
AND THOSE WHO VOTE AGAINST IT WILL LOSE, WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK FOR 12 MONTHS.
SO THIS IS TAKING, I'M ASKING FOR US TO TAKE ACTIONS ON THE CREDIT CARD POLICY, UH, AND ALLOW FOR OUR VOTE TO STAND, UH, AND THEN FOR US TO MOVE ON AFTER HAVING MADE THAT DECISION, KNOWING THAT THE DECISION WAS MADE, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGETING PROCESS.
THE, THE MOTION IS VERY CLEARLY TO CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THE CREDIT CARD POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH OUR PURCHASE CARDS AND FOLLOW THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS OUTLINED.
SO IF YOU VOTE YES, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE FORWARD, BUT THE WAY WE'RE GONNA PURSUE TRANSPARENCY IS TO ADJUST OUR BUDGET, WHICH IS LITERALLY TWO MEETINGS AWAY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE LINE ITEMS ARE, UH, MORE TRANSPARENT.
COUNCIL TO, ALRIGHT, ONE LAST QUESTION ON THAT.
NEXT YEAR WE BRING THE COMPENSATION COMMITTEE TO FORM.
SO ARE WE SAYING BY YOU, BY THIS VOTE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT THIS IS OFF THE TABLE FOR THEIR DISCUSSIONS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR COMPENSATION? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, IT'S JUST MOVING FORWARD.
NO, THEY, THEY, THEY DO NOT, THEY'RE NOT BOUND BY THE RULES OF COUNSEL.
THEY CAN MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATION.
I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO ESTABLISH A CITIZEN FINANCIAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND GET A BETTER CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF OUR CREDIT CARD POLICY AS IT SPEAKS TO PER DIEM VALET PARKING, UPGRADES AND TIPPING.
SO A LOT OF THESE, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
THE MAYOR WAS OUT OF ORDER TOO.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION, UH, NO.
A POINT OF ORDER CAN BE CALLED, YOU NEED TO READ THE RULES OF COUNCIL.
A POINT OF ORDER MAY BE CALLED, WHEN SOMEONE IS SPEAKING OUT OF ORDER, YOU DOT HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED TO DO SO.
NOBODY, NOBODY SAID THAT THEY WERE AGAINST IT.
ALL THOSE, UH, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WHAT THE HECK WAS THE MOTION? I SAID NO.
MOTION YOU CAN CALL THE, TO CONTINUE CALL THE GRIZ.
[19) Consider and Possible Action to ratify non-binding proposition to accept or reject health insurance for non-full time elected officials.]
AGENDA ITEM 19.CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION, RIGHT.
RATIFY NON-BINDING POSITIONS TO ACCEPT OR REJECT HEALTH INSURANCE FOR NON FULL-TIME ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO, TO THIS AGENDA ITEM I BROUGHT, I BROUGHT IT FORWARD AT THE REQUEST OF CONCERNED RESIDENTS THAT DID NOT WANT COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE, UH, NOT FULL-TIME TO HAVE
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TAXPAYER PAID HEALTH INSURANCE.THERE'S A LOT OF, I'D LIKE TO CALL A PORT ANOTHER POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE.
BUT THE POINT OF ORDER THAT I'D LIKE TO CALL YOU'RE, AS IT RELATES, RELATES TO WHETHER OR NOT DECIDE WAS PROPERLY POSTED AND IN VIOLATION OF THE RULES OF COUNSEL.
THE RULES OF COUNSEL STATE THAT IF THE COUNSEL TAKES AN ACTION WITH REGARDS TO SOMETHING AS INSURANCE, THAT THOSE WHO VOTED ON THE FAILING SIDE CANNOT BRING THAT ITEM BACK AND DISCUSS IT FOR A PERIOD OF EITHER SIX MONTHS OR 12 MONTHS SINCE THE VOTE TO, TO DEAL WITH THE INSURANCE HAS BEEN TAKEN PLACE.
THAT ITEM HAS NOT BEEN, UH, THAT AMOUNT OF TIME IS NOT PROPERLY PASSED.
UH, AND SO THE POINT OF ORDER THAT I'M CALLING AS IT RELATES TO THIS ITEM IS THAT IT, UH, IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE DISCUSSED AND BROUGHT FORWARD BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED AGAINST IT SIX MONTHS, UH, UNTIL SIX OR 12 MONTHS OR WHATEVER IT SAYS IS PASSED.
AND SO, I'D LIKE A RULING AND MAYBE AN OPINION.
AMY, CAN WE GET AN OPINION PLEASE? WHAT, WHAT IS THE ITEM THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS NO, NOT TRUE.
THE ITEM IS TO BRING A NON, TO BRING A NON-BINDING PROPOSITION ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT TO ALLOW THE CHARTER'S RULES OF DEMOCRACY TO ALLOW THE VOTERS TO DECIDE TO ACCEPT OR REJECT COUNCIL MEMBER PAID, UM, HEALTH INSURANCE FOR NON FULL-TIME MEMBERS.
SO THE VOTERS GET TO DECIDE ON THE BALLOT.
THE RULES OF COUNCIL STATE THAT YOU, IT'S NOT BINDING.
YOU CANNOT A COUNCIL MEMBER IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE PREVAILING SIDE OF A VOTE WITH REGARDS TO INSURANCE, THAT THEY CANNOT BRING AN ITEM BACK OR ONE OF SOME OF SIMILAR NATURE TO TRY TO UNDO MAYOR THE NA MAYOR, THE VOTE THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE.
MAYOR, MAYOR, BY MY READING, THIS IS THE EXACT REASON, MAYOR, THAT SUCH AN ITEM IS STEPPED FORWARD AND VOTED AND ADOPTED BY THE MAYOR BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
MAYOR, PLEASE, CAN YOU GIMME A MINUTE TO READ THE RULES OF COUNSEL? OKAY.
CAN WE TAKE A, A BREAK? NO, WE'RE GONNA, SO SHE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WE GO BACK, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET REVIEW MINUTES.
WOULD IT REALLY HELP IF THEY MADE THESE OBJECTIONS IN ADVANCE?
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COUNCIL ZOGA? SO WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE DEMO DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IN OUR CHARTER AND ON THIS NOVEMBER BALLOT BY, UH, ADDING A NON-BINDING PROPOSITION TO ACCEPT OR REJECT HEALTH INSURANCE FOR NON FULL-TIME COUNCIL MEMBERS.THIS DATA CAN BE USED BY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE NEXT YEAR TO SEE IF IT'S REALLY WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS AND IF HEALTH INSURANCE NEEDS TO BE FUNDED IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGETS.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW THE PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE, AMY? SURE.
UM, OUR CITY CHARTER DOES ALLOW FOR A NON-BINDING REFERENDUM THAT WE CAN PLACE ON THE BALLOT IF WE WISH TO DO SO.
IT IS NON-BINDING, WHICH MEANS THAT WHETHER IT PASSES OR NOT, IT DOES NOT REQUIRE ACTION BY COUNSEL.
IT'S REALLY KIND OF GAUGE THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY LIKE OR DON'T LIKE AND DECIDE.
AND HE WILL GO IN THIS SAME BALLOT AS THE BALLOT THAT WILL GO IN NOVEMBER, CORRECT? IT'S CALLED IN IN AUGUST AT WHEN WE'RE CALLING OUR GENERAL ELECTION AND WE CAN PUT IT ON THE SAME BALLOT.
SO IF WE TOOK THE ACTION AT THE NEXT MEETING TO, BECAUSE THE WAY COUNCIL ITEMS WORK IS WE DIRECT CITY MANAGER BRING IT BACK.
SO WE DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER, BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING.
WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AUGUST BALLOT AUGUST OR ELECTION.
SO WILL THAT BE YOUR MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING THAT BACK? TO BRING IT BACK? OKAY.
YOU WANNA MAKE IT? SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING BACK, UH, AMY, WHAT YOU SAID FOR OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO VOTE ON.
SO IT'S A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK AN ITEM, ADDING A NON-BINDING REFERENDUM REGARDING COUNCIL HEALTH INSURANCE ON THE GENERAL ELECTION IN THE BUDGET.
IT IS A MOTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK AN ITEM PLACING A NON-BINDING REFERENDUM IN BRENTWOOD CITY CHARTER ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION REGARDING CITY COUNCIL INSURANCE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING BACK, UH, TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK AN AGENDA ITEM TO PLACE A NON-BINDING PROPOSITION ON THIS NOVEMBER'S, UM, BALLOT REGARDING THE HEALTH INSURANCE REGARDING THE COUNCIL MEMBER HEALTH INSURANCE.
SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL UNA A SECOND BY COUNCIL COUNCILOR PARSLEY.
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? SORRY, CAN YOU TELL THE VOTE? LET'S, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
I SHOULD HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.
AND BRIAN, JUST TO MAKE BE CLEAR, THIS IS JUST TO BRING SOMETHING BACK.
WE'RE STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE, UH, ITEM ITSELF ONE MORE TIME, CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
I'LL BE BRINGING BACK AN ITEM AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THAT VOTE.
THAT WAY EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT HERE.
I MEAN, WE'VE, WE SPENT TWO, TWO HOURS AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY CITY BUSINESS.
LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
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WE'LL NOW CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO WATER.COULD EVERYBODY PLEASE TAKE A SEAT? UM, WE'RE GOOD.
[23) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on the Tax Increment Refinance Zone (TIRZ) opportunities to expand current TIRZ Districts #3 and #4 to support roadway infrastructure.]
WE NOW SEND, UM, STAFF REPORTS.WHOLE DISCUSSION, UH, PROVIDES STAFF DIRECTION ON THE TAX EQUIPMENT, RING FINANCE ZONE, OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND CURRENT, UH, TOURIST DISTRICT THREE AND FOUR TO SUPPORT ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE PRESENTER AMBER SCHMITZ JOINT.
UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TIM.
OH, THIS IS THE WRONG PRESENTATION.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO PULLED THIS.
WHO PULLED THIS ONE? UH, AGENDA ITEM 23.
OH, COUNCIL, IT WAS ABOUT THE THREE TWO FIRST.
UM, EXCITING PROJECTS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UM, WE ARE GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT EXPANSION OF TOUR DISTRICTS, SO THAT WAY WE CAN BUILD, UM, TWO CRITICAL ROAD PROJECTS.
UM, ONE ON THE WEST SIDE AND ONE ON THE EAST SIDE.
UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, UM, TS THREE.
IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF KYLE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE ROAD THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS THE FM ONE 10 BYPASS.
IT'S THE ROAD THERE COLORED IN YELLOW.
UM, IT IS A $70 MILLION PROJECT, 6.8 MILES.
IT WILL CONNECT FROM ONE 50 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO UM, YARRINGTON ROAD.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, SOUTH GO FORTH ROAD WITHIN TOURISM NUMBER FOUR.
IT IS $75 MILLION AND 3.1 MILES.
UM, THE SECTION IN PURPLE THERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE SECTION IN GREEN, UM, THAT CONNECTS TO 1 1 50.
WHAT IS THAT ONE? 1 58? UM, IT'S ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO THEN IT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY UP TO BEBE.
AND SO THESE TWO ROADS COMBINE TOGETHER.
THEY PROVIDE CRITICAL NORTH SOUTH MOVEMENT THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CITY.
AND THEN EAST WEST CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE, THE YARRINGTON ROAD CONNECTION ESSENTIALLY LOOPING OUR CITY.
UM, THE OTHER ROADS INDICATED ON THE MAP ARE THE ONES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITHIN THE ROAD MOD PROGRAM.
SO IT JUST SHOWS, UM, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE AT THE CITY TO GET CONNECTIVITY, UH, MOVEMENTS AND IMPROVE THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN KYLE.
WHAT'S THE PROJECT? SO CURRENTLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF KYLE, WE HAVE TOUR NUMBER THREE.
IT'S OVER WHAT WE CALL THE TOLL BROTHERS PROPERTY.
IT WAS CREATED IN APRIL OF 2022.
IT'S A CITY AND HAYES COUNTY TOUR.
UM, WE WOULD PROPOSE TO EXPAND THAT BY 1,097 ACRES, UM, TO A TOTAL OF 1,298 ACRES.
SO IT WOULD INCORPORATE THE YELLOW AND BLUE.
UM, IT, THE EXPANSION WOULD BE A PARTICIPATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY TO BE DETERMINED AND IT WOULD PAY FOR THAT 6.8 MILES OF THE FM ONE 10 BYPASS, WHICH IS THE $70 MILLION PROJECT.
AND HERE YOU CAN SEE HOW THE ROAD, UM, KIND OF BISECTS THE TWO, UM, PROPERTIES AND HOW THE EXPANSION OF THE DISTRICT WOULD HELP PAY FOR THAT.
SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE EXPAND IT INTO THE THOUSAND 97 ACRES OF REMAINING BLANCO RIVER RANCH PROPERTY.
THE PARTICIPATION RATE WOULD BE DETERMINED, UM, IT WOULD BE A 30 YEAR TURS.
UM, THE COUNTY WOULD ISSUE BONDS FOR THE FM ONE 10 PROJECT AS PART OF THEIR ROAD BOND, UM, PROJECT THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT ON THE BALLOTS.
AND THEN A PORTION OF THE TOUR THREE REVENUES WOULD BE DEDICATED FOR COUNTY DEBT SERVICE.
SO WE WOULD HELP ACCELERATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF, OF THE ROAD, GET IT DONE FASTER, AND IT WOULD BE A CITY COUNTY PARTICIPATION TOUR.
NUMBER FOUR, THE PROJECT YOU SEE HERE, UM, AGAIN, UM, TOUR NUMBER FOUR IS CURRENTLY WITHIN, UM, 179 ACRES.
THE AREA IN RED, IT'S LIMESTONE CREEK.
IT'S A CITY ONLY TOUR THAT WAS CREATED IN MARCH OF 2023.
UH, WE WOULD PROPOSE TO EXPAND, EXPAND THIS BY 1300 ACRES, ESSENTIALLY, AND IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF 1,552 ACRES.
UM, THIS EXPANSION WOULD BE A 50% PARTICIPATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND IT WOULD PAY FOR 3.1 MILES OF GO FORTH ROAD $75 MILLION.
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DIRECT STAFF TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TOUR THREE AND FOUR EXPANSIONS, THIS IS WHAT YOUR TIMELINE WOULD LOOK LIKE.WE'D HAVE A RESOLUTION, UM, AT THE NEXT, UM, COUNCIL MEETING AND THEN AT OUR SPECIAL MEETING OR BUDGET WORKSHOP.
UM, WE'D HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND FIRST READING FOR EXPANSION OF THE TWO.
UM, AUGUST 6TH, WE'D HAVE TWO OF THE BOARD MEETINGS TO ADOPT THE FINAL FINANCING PLAN.
AND THEN ON AUGUST 20TH, WE'D HAVE THE SECOND RATING FOR EXPANSION.
UM, SO OPTIONS AND RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU.
UM, NUMBER ONE IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY IN ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, THAT, THAT THE TOURS WOULD OVERLAY, UM, ON THE KIND OF PROJECTS THEY COULD BRING TO HELP, UM, FUND THAT INCREMENT TO EXPAND THE TOUR THREE AND TOUR FOUR TO HELP FUND THE FM ONE 10 BYPASS AND THE SOUTH GO FORTH ROAD PROJECTS.
OR YOU COULD CHOOSE TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPOSED PROJECTS.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS OPTION ONE.
AND THERE AGAIN IS THAT BEAUTIFUL MAP SHOWING THE CONNECTIVITY AND THE NORTH SOUTH MOVEMENT.
VERY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE, WITH HAYES COUNTY.
THEY'VE BEEN AN INCREDIBLE PARTNER, UH, WITH THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND SO, UM, IT'S UP FOR Y'ALL TO DISCUSS IF I HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE NOW.
UM, THE PIECE THAT YOU HAVE THERE ON THE MAP ON THE FM ONE 10, UM, OFF 35, HAS THAT PIECE ALREADY BEEN, UM, IMPROVISED OR WHY IS THAT LITTLE PIECE NOT PART OF THE, THE LOOP SYSTEM? IT'S, IT'S ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
THAT LITTLE PIECE THAT'S NOT YEAH.
IT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED CONNECTED.
AND IT, IT'S A GOOD, UM, I GUESS IT FITS.
IT WAS BUILT BY, IT FITS WELL INTO THIS.
IT WAS BILLED BY THE DEVELOPER.
YEAH, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION, MR. RIZZO.
SO AMBER, HAVE ANY DEVELOPERS ON THE EAST OR THE WEST, UM, BEEN, UM, TALKED TO ABOUT POTENTIALLY HELPING BUILD THE ROADS OR MAYBE IN THE TURS, REIMBURSING THEM IF THEY BUILD SOME OF THE ROAD OR DEDICATE SOME LAND TO THE CITY OR COUNTY FOR THE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, FIRE STATIONS AS WE GROW AND HAVE MORE DENSITY IN THESE AREAS? WE, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM ABOUT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WOULD, WOULD HELP FUND TO, TO PAVE MM-HMM,
UM, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO SPECIFICS AS MUCH AS THAT KIND OF DETAIL REGARDING PROPERTY FOR FIRE STATIONS.
AND AS WE LOOK AT A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN, WE CAN CONSIDER BRINGING SOME OPTIONS BACK TO YOU THAT HAVE SOME ELEMENTS RELATED TO THAT.
WE'VE HAD SOME LARGE PROPERTY OWNERS ON BOTH OF THESE ROADWAYS THAT WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH.
DON'T HAVE ANY FINAL DEVELOPMENT DETAILS TO SHARE, BUT, UH, WE THINK THERE'S A WILLINGNESS TO PARTNER IN SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT WE CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK THAT WORKS, BUT THE DETAILS WILL NEED TO BE FLUSHED OUT AND AGREED TO AND THEN BROUGHT BACK AT A LATER TIME.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A VERY GOOD, UH, DESIGN MAP SYSTEM.
ONE, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND THE COUNTY, WHICH IS AMAZING.
WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIPS.
UH, AND WE'RE BRINGING SOME MA TWO MAJOR ROADS TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
THIS ONE WILL BE, UH, SOUTH, UH, SOUTH NORTH, NORTH, SOUTH ROADWAY, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU LIVE OFF OF ONE 50, THIS IS GONNA BE A WAY TO ALLEVIATE, YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO, UH, NORTH AND IN SOUTH WHEN YOU'RE LEAVING, UH, YOUR SUBDIVISION'S THERE ON ONE 50.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS THE ONE 50 BYPASS.
WE'RE GETTING READY TO TAKE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC OFF OF ONE 50, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS OFF OF ONE 50 HAVE REALLY ASKED FOR A LONG TIME IF THE POND PASSES, IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL.
BUT TO HAVE THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY TO PUT THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF KYLE, DEFINITELY NEED TO THANK OUR COUNTY, UM, ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, FOR TAKING THIS BOLD STEP FORWARD AND, AND WANTING TO FUND TWO REALLY BIG PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
UH, I THINK IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE COUNTY ON THIS.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALLEVIATE SOME OF OUR CONGESTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM.
WAS THIS 23? 23 WITH, UM, OPTION ONE? RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.
UH, SECOND BY MAYOR PROAM, ROBERT RIZZO.
IS MAYOR NOT ON MAYOR? ALRIGHT.
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BUT, UM, I'VE BEEN GONE SO YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T LOOKING.[V) Consent Agenda]
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON.I, UM, O ORDER OF THE, UH, MEETING NOW.
ANY, UH, OTHER ITEMS? I GUESS THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM YOU WANT TO PULL OR IS THERE ANY ITEMS THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO I WAS GONNA PULL, OH, SORRY.
WHICH ONE WAS THAT NUMBER? I DON'T KNOW.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THREE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UH, SO ANY MOTIONS? WELL, I ALSO WANNA JUST ASK A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, KAY FREEZE, UH, 12 AND 13 SO WE CAN, WE CAN APPROVE THE REST OF THE CONSENT TO AGENDA ITEMS. IF, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE EXTENDED ITEM ITEMS. 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11 AND 14.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.
[VI) Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
ALL RIGHT.CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER THREE, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $499,849 AND 47 CENTS OF VIKING CONSTRUCTION FOR MICROSURFACING SERVICES, WHICH WAS, UH, PROCURED VIA THE CITY'S INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH GRAND PRAIRIE.
I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A QUESTION ON THIS ITEM.
I, I GUESS I, I MAY HAVE SENT THE EMAIL TO LEON INSTEAD OF YOU, BUT IT, IT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, JUST REAL BRIEFLY ON SUNFLOWER CIRCLE IS THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT LATER ON.
UH, FOR, INSTEAD OF RESURFACING, IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, IT HAS TO BE LIKE A CONSTRUCTION ROUTE.
'CAUSE NOW WE KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ROAD PROJECT AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THAT STREET.
'CAUSE THEY ASKED EVENING, UH, MAYOR, MAYOR PROAM, COUNCIL, LEON, BARB, CITY ENGINEER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TO BS.
THERE COULD BE MICROSURFACES AND THAT PARTICULAR ROAD IS A GRAVEL ROAD.
TYPICALLY WE DON'T USE MICRO ON THAT TYPE OF ROAD SURFACE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT, BUT, UH, BUT IT, BECAUSE IT'S GRAVEL, WE USUALLY DON'T USE THAT MICRO.
WE HAVE OTHER METHODS THAT WE USE TO, TO COVER THOSE ROADS, SUCH AS A SEAL COAT OR, OR POSSIBLY AN OVERLAY.
COAT'S OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE.
IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE AND, UH, AND IT OVERLAYS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO A DOUBLE CHIP SEAL AND I COULD WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT AND COME UP WITH SOME, UH, SOLUTIONS ON THAT.
AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ON THE MAP BECAUSE I SEE THAT AMBER WOODS'S GONNA BE AFFECTED AS WELL IN THIS AREA.
AND SO I JUST WANNA LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOME OF THEIR STREETS, UH, REDONE, WHICH IS, UH, GONNA BE REALLY NEEDED AND, UH, HELP IMPROVE WITH THE, UH, THE LIFE OF THE STREETS ON THERE.
SO WITH THAT, IF ANYBODY DOES ANYTHING ELSE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
SECOND MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIA SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
CONSIDER J OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION FOR DEF DEFENSE.
DEF, AH, I CAN'T EVEN TALK NOW.
DEFIANCE OF NOT LESS THAN $3,585,000 IN OUTSTANDING CITY OF KYLE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS DURING THE UPCOMING PHYSICAL 20 24, 20 25 IN ORDER TO REALIZE AN ESTIMATED $725,000 INTEREST COST SAVINGS, AND TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR THE NEXT PHYSICAL YEAR FOR 2024.
2025, AT THE SAME RATE AS THE CURRENT PHYSICAL YEAR OF 0.4693 PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS IN NON-TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATIONS.
PERMA WHEAT COUNCIL, ZENGA, YOU PULLED THIS ITEM? YEAH, GO, GO AHEAD PEREZ.
YOU CAN GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION FIRST.
SO, MAYOR, MAYOR PROTE, COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD.
I'M PERVE MOHIN CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
I HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION AND ALONG WITH ME, WE HAVE THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR, ANDREW FRIEDMAN.
WE ALSO HAVE THE CITY'S BOND COUNCIL, MS. STEPHANIE LIBE.
SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT BONDS, WE CAN GET INTO THAT.
SO ON JUNE 8TH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A, A BRIEF BACKGROUND, ON JUNE 8TH DURING A SPECIAL CALL CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR, MARK MCCLINNEY, WITH SAMCO CAPITAL, PRESENTED OPTIONS
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FOR MANAGING THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR NEXT YEAR, INCLUDING POTENTIAL DFE OF OUTSTANDING BOND DEBT FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.SO AT THIS SPECIAL CALL MEETING, THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR PRESENTED FOUR OPTIONS TO MANAGE THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR NEXT YEAR.
OPTION NUMBER ONE WAS, WE DO NOT DO ANY DEFE.
WE FOLLOW THE SENATE BILL TO CALCULATION METHODOLOGY AND ALLOW THE CITY'S TAX RATE TO DECREASE ACCORDINGLY.
CURRENT ESTIMATE, THEIR ESTIMATE FINANCIAL ADVISOR'S ESTIMATE FOR 2024, THE PROPERTY TAX RATE WOULD DROP DOWN TO 41.67 CENTS.
OPTION TWO TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING PROPERTY TAX RATE OF 46 93 PER $100.
THIS WOULD REQUIRE US TO, AT LEAST, DEPENDING ON THE MARKET, AND THE INTEREST RATES AT LEAST NO LESS THAN $3.6 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING BONDS.
AND WE WILL ACHIEVE INTEREST SAVINGS, COST SAVINGS BY DOING THAT OF ABOUT $725,000.
OPTION THREE AS PRESENTED, WAS TO INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE TO PRIOR YEARS LAST FISCAL YEAR'S LEVEL OF 52 82 PER $100.
THIS WOULD REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF $6.3 MILLION IN DFE OF OUTSTANDING BONDS FOR A ESTIMATED INTEREST SAVINGS OF SLIGHTLY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THEN OPTION FOUR THAT THEY PRESENTED WAS TO INCREASE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE TO THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE PROJECTED FOR THE ROAD BONDS, WHICH WAS 59 99 PER $100.
THIS WOULD REQUIRE DFE OF APPROXIMATELY 12 MILLION, $12.7 MILLION IN OUTSTANDING BONDS AND WOULD ALSO GENERATE, UH, INTEREST SAVINGS OF SLIGHTLY OVER $2 MILLION.
SO AT THE END OF THAT MEETING, CITY COUNCIL GAVE, UH, STAFF DIRECTION, WHICH WAS Y'ALL DIRECTED STAFF TO PROCEED WITH OPTION TWO.
AND OPTION TWO WAS TO DE FEES AT LEAST $3.6 MILLION TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE THE SAME AS THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 46 93.
SO NEXT YEAR WE WOULD SET THE PROPERTY TAX RATE AT LEAST AT 46 93 AND GENERATE, UH, INTEREST COST SAVINGS OF $725,000.
SO WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF THE PROPOSED DEBT DEFIANCE? JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD, WE WILL, WE ESTIMATE THAT THE FEES AT LEAST NOT LESS THAN $3.6 MILLION, THE AMOUNT OF FEES IS DETERMINED BY THE REQUIRED INTEREST IN SYNCING PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TAX CALCULATION FOR NEXT YEAR.
THAT IS NEEDED TO SET THE TAX RATE.
IT IS NOT SET IN CONCRETE AT $3.5 MILLION, BUT IT WILL BE AT LEAST $3.5 MILLION.
WHAT IS THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THE DEBT? DFE NEXT YEAR'S INTEREST IN SINKING PORTION OF THE TAX RATE WILL GENERATE ENOUGH DOLLARS TO DO THIS, DEFIANCE OUR EXPENSES INCURRED BY THE CITY TO COMPLETE A DEBT DEFE TRANSACTION.
AND THE ANSWER IS YES, IT IS ESTIMATED THAT IT WILL COST US BETWEEN 15 AND $20,000.
SO OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU BASED ON DIRECTION GIVEN TO STAFF ON JUNE 8TH.
OPTION TWO, YOU DO NOT APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR DEBT DFE.
AND OPTION THREE COULD BE ANYTHING ELSE THAT Y'ALL MIGHT WANNA DO.
IF COUNSEL ADOPTS THE DFE RESOLUTION TONIGHT, THE DEFE BONDS WILL BE INCLUDED IN, IN THE CALCULATION OF DEBT SERVICE FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.
AND THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX RATE WILL BE SET TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO BE GENERATED FROM THE PROPERTY TAX RATE TO PAY FOR THE EXISTING DEBT SERVICE AND THE DFE BONDS.
IF COUNCIL CHOOSES NOT TO ADOPT A DFE RESOLUTION TONIGHT, THE CITY WILL CALCULATE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR NEXT YEAR BASED ONLY UPON THE DEATH SERVICE THAT IS DUE IN 2025 WITHOUT THE D.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, COUNSEL.
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BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.AND WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, BOND ATTORNEY AND THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR HERE.
UH, SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T, I WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE US, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE IN THE FUTURE IT, IT, IT, IT'S NOT BENEFICIAL WHERE, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OTHER WAYS TO DO DFE AND, UM, THEY SEEM TO BE DONE WHEN THE INTEREST RATES ARE FALLING.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE HIGHER INTEREST RATES.
SO HOW DO WE KNOW THAT BY DOING THIS, IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT US WHEN THESE INTEREST RATES ARE HIGH RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO, SO THE DEFE BASICALLY IS GONNA PREPAY THE BONDS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING.
SO WE WILL PAY OFF EARLY BONDS THAT ARE CALLABLE UP TO 3.6, 3.7 MILLION, WHATEVER IT TAKES, RIGHT? BUT WHEN WE TAKE NEW BONDS, WE'RE GONNA TAKE 'EM AT A HIGHER INTEREST RATE.
IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN WE ISSUE NEW DEBT MM-HMM.
WE'RE NOT REFINANCING THE DEFE PORTION.
OKAY? SO THOSE BONDS ARE GONE.
WE'RE PAYING SOME OFF EARLY TO SAVE MONEY.
SO IT WOULD NATURALLY FALL AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEN A MUCH LARGER INCREASE BACK ON THE TAX RATE WHEN THOSE BONDS ARE ISSUED.
SO PART OF THE REASON THAT YOU WANNA DO THIS IS TO MINIMIZE THE TAX RATE FLUCTUATION.
AND THE SECOND REASON IS THAT AS YOU PREPAID DEBT EARLY, LIKE YOUR OWN MORTGAGE THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT HOME, WHEN YOU PREPAY THAT MORTGAGE OR PREPAY THOSE BONDS, YOU SAVE ON THE INTEREST COSTS THAT YOU WOULD'VE OTHERWISE PAID.
SO I, I MAY HAVE SAID SOME THINGS YOU WERE GONNA SAY, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO, TO, TO CHIME IN AS WELL.
BOTH, BOTH EXCELLENT ANSWERS FOR THE RECORD.
ANDREW FRIEDMAN WITH SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO THE CITY, UH, THE DEBT DFE, UH, THE BONDS THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT BEAR AN INTEREST RATE AND IT FLUCTUATES BETWEEN FOUR POINT A HALF AND 5% DEPENDING ON HOW MANY MATURITIES WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE.
UH, BUT THEY'RE BEING PAID OFF WITH CASH.
SO THE RELATIVE INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT, UM, THESE BONDS WILL BE FROM 2013.
UH, INTEREST RATES WERE HIGHER THEN THAN THEY ARE NOW.
UH, SO THERE'S AN INTEREST COST AS AN INTEREST SAVINGS THAT THIS PRESENTATION AND PERVEZ POINTED OUT, UH, IN EXCESS OF $700,000 IS SET IN STONE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REFINANCING IT WITH RATES THAT ARE NOT KNOWN IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE REFINANCING THEM OR PAYING THEM OFF ENTIRELY WITH CASH ON HAND.
SO WE REC WE'RE JUST REMOVING THOSE BONDS FROM OUR BOOKS AT WHATEVER INTEREST RATE THEY ARE.
AND THEN TO, UH, BRIAN'S POINT, UH, WE'RE FREEING UP THAT CAPACITY FOR NEW DEBT FOR THE ROAD BONDS THAT ARE ALREADY, UH, AUTHORIZED BY THE VOTERS.
IT'LL BE LAYERED IN OVER TIME.
IT ALLOWS US TO MINIMIZE ANY FLUCTUATION IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE OVER TIME AS WE TAKE THOSE, THOSE DEBTS ON.
BUT I, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THIS WAS FOR BOND CAPACITY FOR OUR NEW BONDS, CORRECT.
WELL, FOR, FOR THE ROAD BONDS THAT WE HAVE AUTHORIZED FOR ANY DEBT THAT MAY COME ON IN THE FUTURE PAID FOR FROM THE INS TAX RATE.
SO IF THAT'S TO THE TUNE OF 150 OR $250,000 A YEAR, THAT'S $250,000 IN NEW DEBT PAYMENTS THAT COULD BE ADDED ON WITHOUT IMPACTING THE CITY'S TAX RATE.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING GOING INTO THE SECURITY OF THE ESCROW THAT IS IN THE AGREEMENT IN THE BACKEND THAT SAYS THERE'S AN ESCROWED AGENT, ALL OF THAT LANGUAGE, SOME SECURITY THAT'S GONNA GIVE PAID WITH THE FULL BALANCE AND THE INTEREST? THESE BONDS ARE CURRENTLY CALLABLE, MEANING THAT WHEN WE ACT ON THE DFE WILL GIVE THE BOND BOND HOLDERS THE REQUIRED 30 OR 45 DAY NOTICE.
SO WE'LL BE USING CASH, THERE WON'T BE ANY ESCROW SECURITIES.
SO, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY SECURITIES BOUGHT, UH, FOR THE ESCROW.
SO THERE'S NO REINVESTMENT RISK OF THESE, OF THIS DFE? NO, SIR.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE TERM I HEAR THE REINVESTMENT RISK THAT NOW WHEREVER YOU PUT IT DOESN'T GENERATE ENOUGH TO PAY THAT DE FEES AMOUNT.
SO THAT'S THE REINVESTMENT RISK.
IF THAT, IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BUY SECURITIES THE GUARANTEE.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE CURRENTLY CALLABLE, THEY'LL BE PAID OFF NEARLY IMMEDIATELY.
THAT'S AN ADVANCE REFUNDING IS WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE
I SEE WHERE OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT TO SAVE, BUT THIS IS CASH.
BUT THEY, THEY, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE BONDS THAT WERE CALLABLE RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD BE TAKING OUT
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IN ADVANCE REFUNDING THEM ESSENTIALLY AND WE WOULD BE HAVING TO BUY SECURITIES.BUT YOU'RE, YOU ARE CORRECT WHERE THAT'S THE CASE.
I I, I WAS AWARE THESE ARE, THEY HAVE TO BE THE CALLABLE BONDS, UM, PER DESIGN.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT ACCRUING LARGER DEBT.
A IF THESE WERE CALLED TO INTO DIFFUSE THESE, THESE WOULD GO AWAY OFF THE BOOKS.
WE'RE PAYING OFF DEBT TO MY QUESTION.
UM, MR. RIZZO MAYOR PRO TEMP, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM SEVEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM SEVEN.
NO IS ALL ITEM NUMBER 12, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE TASK ORDER NUMBER FIVE TO RPS INFRASTRUCTURE INC.
FOR BID PHASE SERVICES FOR MARKETPLACE AVENUE PROJECT OF THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM AND THE AMOUNT OF $10,512.
AND NUMBER 13, BRING 'EM TOGETHER.
YOU WANNA BRING NUMBER 13 TOGETHER? MM-HMM.
FOR CONSTRUCTION PHASE SERVICES FOR MARKETPLACE AVENUE PROJECT, UH, OF THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM AND THE AMOUNT OF $48,987.
OFFICER
UH, JUST A QUESTION TO MR. JOE.
UH, CANTA LOOP, UH, HAVE ANY, UM, TRAFFIC DE TRAFFIC DESIGN STUDIES BEEN DONE? TRAFFIC ANALYSIS STUDY AT MARKETPLACE, NO TRAFFIC RELATED TO THIS PROJECT? COUNCIL MEMBER? YEAH.
UH, WHAT'S IT CALLED? TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
NOT FOR THE, NO, THIS IS JUST, WAS THE SCHEMATIC.
SO DO WE HAVE NO, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ON THE ROAD BOND THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, DONE ON THE MARKETPLACE SIDE? THERE IS NO TIA THAT WAS DONE FOR THIS UHHUH.
SO HOW ARE WE GONNA MANAGE, I GUESS, THOSE INTERSECTIONS AND STUFF THAT, UH, THAT ARE ON THE ROAD BOND INTO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR AREA? I GUESS THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.
IF WE HAD MORE, IF WE WERE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD ALREADY ON, YOU KNOW, THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD THERE ON MARKETPLACE BY THE ETB.
SO, SO THE, THE SCOPE OF THE MARKETPLACE PROJECT RIGHT, IS TO CONNECT, UM, IS TO IMPROVE THE PIECE.
AND THEN FROM WHERE THE ROAD ENDS NORTH TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
UM, AND THAT'S THE SCOPE OF THE, THE PROJECT THAT IT'S A GAP PROJECT.
UH, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WHEN, WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT INTO THE BOND, DID NOT INCLUDE DOING A, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UH, THERE WAS SOME WORK DONE, UH, IT WASN'T AN ANALYSIS, BUT THERE WAS, UM, AS PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS TO MODIFY BY THE INTERSECTION AT 1626, UM, THAT WAS TAKEN THROUGH THE TECH STOP PERMITTING PROCESS AND THEY MADE SURE THAT THE PLANS WERE IN COORDINATION OR MATCHED MM-HMM.
BUT THAT DOESN'T EVEN GET CLOSE TO DOING A-A-T-I-A.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I, I JUST THOUGHT MAYBE WE HAD MORE OF AN ANALYSIS OF, YOU KNOW, THAT WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN THERE AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
WELL, IF, IF I COULD JUST, JUST ONE THING THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THESE TWO CONTRACTS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, BUT ON KOHLER'S CROSSING MM-HMM.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, FOR THOSE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A SEPARATE ENGAGEMENT FOR 1626 AND MARKETPLACE.
AND THE, AND I'M FORGETTING THE NAME OF THE ROAD THAT'S, UH, RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THAT.
UH, THAT, THAT WITH THE, UH, DELINEATORS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS, WE HAVE A STUDY THAT'S UNDERWAY TO LOOK AT THAT TO SEE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THESE CONTRACTS.
WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC FLOWS AS THEY COME OUT ONTO THOSE TWO ROADWAYS TO SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND IT WAS 'CAUSE I READ MARKETPLACE, SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 12 AND 13.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER UNI.
GOT TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 12 AND 13.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS.
[15) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the Code of Ordinance, to rezone approximately 0.89 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services), and 4.33 acres of land from “A” (Agriculture) to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development, approximately 5.22 acres ‘RS’ for property located at 24155 & 24321 IH-35 in Hays County, Texas.(Kyle Rancher / Aleena Noor Enterprise, Inc. - Z-23-0115) Public Hearing ]
CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, CONSIDER[02:40:01]
APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CODE OF THE ORDINANCE TO REZONE A PROPERLY 0.89 ACRES OF LAND FROM RS TO RETAIL SERVICES.AND 4.3 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO PUT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPROXIMATELY 5.2, 2.22 ACRES, RS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 24 1 55 AND 24 3 21 IKE 35 IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
UM, KYLE RENTER, ALINE NO ENTERPRISE IS, IS, UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, DO WE WANNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE THE PRESENTATION? OKAY.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN UP THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
WE'LL NOW CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
SO BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE, UH, PETITION NUMBER Z DASH 23 DASH ZERO HUNDRED 15, UH, REFERRED TO AS THE POST ROAD PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AS STATED, THIS IS COMBINED A 5.22 ACRE SITE AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE NORTHBOUND IH 35 FRONTAGE ROAD AND EAST POST ROAD.
UH, IT IS CITED BETWEEN I 35 AND THE RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT 0.8 MILES NORTH OF YARRINGTON ROAD.
AND THE PURPOSE, THE OVERRIDING PURPOSE OF THIS PLANE UNION DEVELOPMENT IS TO ALLOW A GAS STATION ON SITE SO THEY CAN PRESERVE THE EXISTING MASSIVE 58 INCH LIVE OAK TREE THAT'S IN SUPER GREAT CONDITION.
UM, THE, UH, EXISTING APPROVED SITE PLANE FROM 2013, UH, HAD A PARKING AND BUILDING, UH, AREA WITHIN THE ROOT CANOPY.
YOU KNOW WHAT, AND IF IT WAS ALLOWED TO MOVE FORWARD TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN THIS MAIN AREA, IT WOULD VERY LIKELY KILL THE TREE AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO REMOVE IT.
THAT WAS PRE, UH, TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE.
SO, UH, THE IMAGE ON THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER IS, UH, THE COMBINED, UM, WITH THE RED TRIANGLE IS THE 0.89 ACRES AND A LITTLE SLIVER IN THE BOTTOM, AND THEN THE REMAINDER 4.33.
UM, AND THEN THE PUT IS GONNA BE THE AREA IN THE PINK.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE AS STATED, THE GREEN BUBBLE THERE, THAT IS THE SIDE OF THE TREE.
THE AREA IN RED IS THE EXISTING APPROVED BUILDINGS.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE GRAY AREA AS PARKING.
SO THERE'S NO WAY THE TREE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PRESERVED.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THE NEW ORDINANCE, UH, 1196, WHICH LIMITS, UH, NEW GAS STATIONS WITHIN, UH, UM, IT SAYS A HALF MILE RADIUS OF OTHER EXISTING ONES BY PROPERTY LINE AND PROPERTY LINE, UH, THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ESSENTIALLY ANY NEW GAS STATIONS WITHIN A MILE OF EACH OTHER.
SO THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE 58 INCH LIGHT LIVE OAK TREE.
IT IS VERY BEAUTIFUL AND WE WANT TO HELP PRESERVE IT.
AND THEN RIGHT HERE YOU HAVE AN IMAGE OF THE MAP SHOWING, UH, OTHER ENTITLED SITES IN GREEN WHERE ONE COULD PUT A GAS STATION.
RIGHT NOW, UH, THEY'RE VESTED FOR DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND THE AREA IN RED IS, UH, WHERE MR. MEIA, AS THE APPLICANT WANTS TO MOVE THE GAS STATION OVER SO HE CAN PRESERVE THE TREE.
ALSO, THERE'S SOME, UH, RESTRICTED USES.
THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER MORE THAN WE USUALLY SEE IN A PUD, UH, THAT MR. MEIA WAS WANTING TO ACCOUNT FOR AS WELL.
UH, BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WE HAD TOGETHER.
AND THE GAS STATION ON THE LEFT, THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS WHAT WOULD FIT INTO WHERE THE, OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE, WHERE THE GREEN CIRCLE IS.
SO YOU CAN SEE A, A GENERAL LAND PLAN WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THE NEW GAS STATION FOLLOWING APPROVAL OF THE ZONING, UH, PERMITS APPLICABLE.
THEY'LL NEED A FINAL PLAT, A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THAT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE IRS ZONING DISTRICT 9 35 OVERLAY.
AND THEY'LL NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ALL BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED ON SITE, WHICH IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF THE I THREE FIVE OVERLAY AND THE KYLE DESIGN STANDARDS GUIDE AS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH THEM.
AND THEN THE, AFTER THAT THEY'LL NEED JUST THEIR COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMITS TO MAKE SURE IT'S COMPLIANT WITH THEIR BUILDING CODE.
AND, UH, THE LAST OPTION, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LAST WEEK VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.
AND, UH, STAFF HAS, UH, RECOMMENDS OPTION ONE, BUT YOU DO HAVE THE OPTIONS TO MODIFY THE PUD AS PRESENTED OR DENIED THE REQUESTED PUT AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR TOBIAZ.
UM, SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY VOTED FOR FIVE ZERO? YES, SIR.
DID THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS BY CHANCE, UH, OF THAT AREA AT ALL? NOTHING AT ALL.
MS. COMMISSIONER? YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, BECAUSE THIS IS A SECTION LIKE RIGHT OFF I 35.
AND SO KEEP IN MIND, THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED AS A GAS STATION.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS A MODIFICATION.
TO MOVE IT SO WE CAN SAVE THE OAK TREE.
WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS SAVING THE OAK TREE
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YOU KNOW.PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE VERY, UH, GRATEFUL THAT HE WAS WANTING TO SAVE THE OAK TREE.
AND, UM, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH JUST 'CAUSE ALL IT REALLY IS, IS CONFIGURING IT.
AND THEN MOVING IT OVER A LITTLE BIT.
HOW LONG THIS HAS BEEN IN PROCESS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS? THREE YEARS.
THIS APPLICATION SITE, THE SITE OR THE, OR THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
THE, WELL, THE OWNER WORKING ON GETTING THIS PROJECT GOING YES.
UM, LAST YEAR WE BROUGHT IT TO COUNCIL AT ONE POINT FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION AND, UH, KIND OF GIVEN A NOD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE TREE.
UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE HIS EFFORTS TO REALLY SAVE THE TREE.
AND HE HAS MOVED EVERYTHING WAY OFF THAT TREE LINE.
UM, THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND HIM FOR IS THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX PROPERTY.
HAS LOTS OF EASEMENTS COMING THROUGH IT.
HE'S HAVING TO DO A LOT OF ADJUSTING AND HAS HAD TO GIVE AWAY A LOT OF HIS PROPERTY OR SELF EASEMENT, BUT A LOT OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED FOR EASEMENT.
SO I COMMEND HIM ON HOW HARD HE'S WORKED TO MAKE THIS A USABLE PROPERTY.
MR. COUNCILOR ZUNIGA, I'D LIKE TO, UM, KIND OF ECHO WHAT MS. HARRIS, UH, DR.
UM, HARRIS HAS SAID ON MR. LOUDON.
YOU DID A, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN IMPROVING THE STANDARDS OF THIS GAS STATION AND TAKING EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, CHOPPED DOWN THAT TREE, UH, 10, 10 YEARS AGO, AND HE BUILT THE GAS STATION ON THE ORIGINAL DESIGNS, BUT HE MOVED ALL OF THE, HE MOVED HIS DESIGNS OVER TO SAVE THAT TREE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, REMARKABLE THAT NOT EVERYBODY WILL DO THAT.
AND, UM, UM, IT'S, IT'S A VERY NICE PROPERTY.
I THINK IT'S REALLY GONNA HELP THE COMMUNITY AS YOU'RE DRIVING INTO IT.
YOU DO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND YOU, BUT, UM, I THINK IT, IT'S A GOOD LOCATION.
IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE VERY VISIBLE.
IT, UM, WHAT I'VE SEEN, UH, YOU, YOU WENT BEYOND THOSE OVERLAY STANDARDS ON I 35 THERE, SIR.
'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN DEVELOPMENT ON ROLAND LANE WHERE THEY JUST MOW DOWN ALL OF THOSE OAK TREES.
AND FOR YOU TO BE IN CONSIDERATE OF THAT AREA, IT'S, IT JUST PUTS IT AS A VERY NICE GEM THAT YOU LEAVE THAT THERE.
AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A LANDMARK LATER ON FOR YOUR PROPERTY.
UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THE CHARGING STATIONS THAT ARE GOING IN THERE AS WELL.
UM, I'M ECHO WHAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAS DONE.
THANK YOU FOR PRESERVING A VERY BEAUTIFUL OLD TREE.
UM, THE GREAT THING IS THAT A STUDY ON IT WAS DONE.
IT'S A REALLY GOOD OLD TREE, SO IT'S GONNA LAST FOR A LONG TIME.
IT'S PROBABLY 500 YEARS OLD,
BUT, UH, NO, I'M EXCITED FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING INTO THAT AREA.
BUT THE CHARGING STATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY ARE LACKING IN OUR CITY FOR YOU TO PUT IN AS SOME MORE CHARGING STATIONS FOR EV IS IMPORTANT.
AND, UH, WITH THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 15.
UH, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNT MAYOR PRO TIM ROBERT RIZZO.
AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[16) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the Code of Ordinance, to rezone approximately 0.762 acres of land from ‘A’ (Agriculture) to ‘RS’ (Retail Services) for property located at 1105 E FM 150 in Hays County, Texas. (Quantum Auto Tech, LLC. - Z-24-0125) Public Hearing ]
ALL RIGHT.UM, CONSIDER A FIRST READING, CONSIDER APPROVAL AND ORDINANCE AND AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE ZONING OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.762 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO RS SERVICES WHERE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 1 0 5 EAST FM ONE 50 IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, ANYONE, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, MAYOR, MAYOR PROTON AND COUNCIL.
UM, SO THIS ONE, I KNOW WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS LATELY.
UM, THIS ONE IS JUST A, UM, WHAT WE WOULD CALL A STRAIGHT ZONING CASE FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON EAST FM ONE 50, CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING RETAIL SERVICES AND THE PROPERTY'S CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
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SO THE ADJACENT ZONING YOU HAVE, UM, THE PARCEL FRONTING, UM, EAST FM ONE 50 IS ZONED RETAIL SERVICES.THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IS ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN BEHIND THE PROPERTY IT IS ZONED MANUFACTURED HOME PARK DISTRICT OR M DASH THREE.
UM, AND JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD AND POINT OUT THAT, UM, IF THIS ZONING IS APPROVED, WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, APPROPRIATE SCREENING IS REQUIRED ADJACENT TO ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTIES PER THE STILL, I GUESS NEWLY ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THIS IS IN A REGIONAL COMMERCIAL AREA FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
UM, AND THIS RS ZONING IS APPROPRIATE BASED ON THAT.
UM, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN USES BUILDING TYPOLOGIES RATHER THAN, UM, LAND USE DISTRICTS.
SO IN THIS CASE, FOR REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, UM, THE APPROPRIATE BUILDING TYPOLOGY WOULD BE MIXED USE, REGIONAL SCALE COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL.
UM, AND THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THAT KIND OF REGIONAL SCALE COMMERCIAL.
UM, IN THIS CASE, WE DO KNOW THE INTENDED USE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE OWNER INTENDS TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR OFFICE AND STORAGE SPACE FOR A MOBILE MECHANIC BUILDING OR A MOBILE MECHANIC BUSINESS, UM, WHICH IS PERMITTED IN THE RS ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, BUT HOWEVER, I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT ANY USE IS ALLOWED IN THE RS ZONING DISTRICT PER SECTION 53 DASH 1230 WOULD ALSO BE PERMITTED.
STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THIS REQUEST IS APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST ON JUNE 25TH.
SO YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE APPROVE, APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR DENY ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF HE CHANGES? CHANGES? OH, SORRY.
WHAT HAPPENS IF HE CHANGES HIS MIND AND WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT SINCE HE'S REZONING FOR RE FOR COMMERCIAL? ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS? ARE THE SAME RESTRICTIONS APPLY? CORRECT.
AND THE THINGS THAT HE CANNOT? SO ANY USE, UM, THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE RETAIL SERVICES DISTRICT PER OUR USE CHART WOULD BE ALLOWED.
UM, THIS IS A FAIRLY SMALL SITE, SO THERE WOULD BE SOME LIMITATIONS BASED ON THAT.
IT'S ALSO A FLAG LOT, SO ACCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO THE SITE.
UM, BUT DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, MANAGEABLE AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THROUGH THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS.
UM, ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE A PRETTY DECENT SCREENING STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE AS WELL AS SOME LANDSCAPE BUFFERING AROUND THE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, WE ALSO HAVE LIKE NOISE ORDINANCE AND NOISE ORDINANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN PLACE TO KIND OF LIMIT DISTURBANCES TO RESIDENTIAL.
THAT, YEAH, I HAVE QUESTIONS TOO.
THAT RAISES A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH.
SO THIS, WHAT THIS OWNER IS HAVING IS BASICALLY A MOBILE STYLE, UM, SPACE.
IS IT GONNA BE AN ACTUAL BUILDING POSSIBLY BUILT THERE OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE LIKE A WORK TRUCK KIND OF DEAL TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, IF, IF IT GETS TO THE POINT TO WHERE THE NEIGHBORS AROUND ARE NEEDING SPECIFIC BUFFERS, WOULD THAT BE A CONFLICT GOING FORWARD? SO BASED ON OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE OWNER'S INTENDED USE, IT WOULD BE FOR PRIMARILY OFFICE AND STORAGE SPACE WITHIN BUILDINGS.
UM, WE WOULD REQUIRE ALL STORAGE TO BE, UM, INSIDE A BUILDING.
AND AS FAR AS THE MOBILE MECHANIC OPERATIONS, UM, TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WORK TRUCKS FOR THE BUSINESS COMING AND GOING.
NOT NECESSARILY BRINGING VEHICLES TO THE SITE TO BE WORKED ON THERE.
AND ONE LAST FOLLOW UP, IS THIS PERSON GONNA ALSO NEED TO REQUIRE ANY KIND OF PARKING SPACES AND ANY HANDICAP OR THINGS LIKE THAT? YES.
THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR, OUR PARKING REGULATIONS AND ANY, UM, ACCESSIBILITY FOR, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS, A DA RAMPS, HANDICAP PARKING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE COUNT FOR THAT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
QUESTIONS
SO YEAH, I DID REACH OUT TO THE OWNER TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS HIS INTENTION.
HE SAYS HE'S MOVING ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT AS A MOBILE MECHANIC.
UM, HE'LL HAVE FOUR OR FIVE VEHICLES, THEY'RE PARKED.
UM, SO MY CONCERNS WERE, UM, HOW DO WE, UM, ENFORCE THAT, UH,
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THIS WON'T BECOME LIKE STORAGE SHEDS OR RVS CAMPERS THAT ARE LEASED IN PARK THERE BECAUSE IT IS SURROUNDING A, A, A MODULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.YOU KNOW, DOES IT FIT WITH WHAT'S AROUND IT AND WHAT'S AROUND IT IS A SALON AND A CHIROPRACTOR.
SO IT'S KIND OF AN AWKWARD KIND OF, UM, SITUATION.
UM, SO WHAT DO WE HAVE, UM, IN TERMS OF OUR ORDINANCES, UM, TO PREVENT, YOU KNOW, UM, TRAILERS AND TRUCKS AND CAMPERS SITTING AROUND THERE? YES.
SO AS, UH, BASICALLY A JUNKYARD IS WHAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF.
UM, SO SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY LIKE A JUNKYARD OR STORAGE FOR RVS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED BASED ON THE ZONING.
WE ALSO HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR STORAGE TO BE, UM, PRIMARILY WITHIN AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UM, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE PARKING OF, UM, VEHICLES THAT WERE BASICALLY IN DISREPAIR.
SO HE DID TOLD ME HE, HE WANNA, WANTS TO, HE WANTS TO WALK INTO IT SLOWLY AS AN INVESTOR, BUT HE'S HAS HIGH STANDARDS FOR THE, FOR THAT AREA COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA, LIKE I SAID, I, UM, I, I'M SURE THERE'S NO REASON TO, TO DOUBT, BUT JUST I DON'T WANT AN INCONVENIENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IS IS MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND THE OPERATION OF MAYBE 24 HOURS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A CONCERN FOR ME THE 24 HOUR.
IF, IF THERE'S, DO WE ALLOW BUSINESSES TO OPERATE LIKE THAT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 24 HOURS? IT DEPENDS ON THE SPECIFIC USE.
THERE'S CERTAIN CASES, ESPECIALLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL WHERE IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ALLOW FOR 24 HOUR USE.
UM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE KIND OF ON THE PROPERTY MAKING A LOT OF NOISE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT IN THIS CASE, MORE THAN LIKELY, UM, AS FAR AS WE'RE AWARE IT'S NOT 24 7, UM, COMING AND GOING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IF IT BECAME AN ISSUE, UM, THERE, THERE MIGHT BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, ISSUE WITH THAT, THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO.
YEAH, I MEAN THE GAS STATIONS ARE OPERATING 24 HOURS, SO WOULDN'T THIS FALL IN THE SAME APPLICABLE USE OF A 24 HOUR? I MEAN, COMMERCIAL, NOT NECESSARILY.
YOU KNOW, MOST AUTO MECHANICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AREN'T OPEN 24 7 MM-HMM.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR OWNER, UM, IF HE OPERATES HIS BUSINESS 24 7.
BUT, UM, TYPICALLY IF IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, WHAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER, UM, A NUISANCE TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS WELL.
SO I'D LIKE TO, MAYOR, IF YOU'RE STILL HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS BROUGHT UP WHEN I WAS LEARNING FROM YOU ABOUT DOES IT FIT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY? AND THAT'S A TRICKY QUESTION.
RIGHT? UM, SO WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS OF, YOU KNOW, DOES IT FIT? SO MAYOR MITCHELL, SO YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? I'M SORRY THOUGH.
LAST TIME I WAS SPEAKING I COULDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
SO I'M, I'M SURE IT SOUNDED CRAZY, BUT CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? MM-HMM.
UM, EARLY ON BACK IN THE 16, 17, 18 YEARS, WE, WE DID A LOT OF STRAIGHT ZONING CASES.
WE STARTED TO GET AWAY FROM THAT, WHICH IS PROBABLY, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST ZONING CASES, STRAIGHT ZONING CASES WE'VE DONE.
WE JUST OBVIOUSLY JUST DID ONE AS WELL.
BUT WHAT I, I JUST WANNA REMIND ON A COUPLE THINGS 'CAUSE YOUR QUESTIONING IS GOOD, BUT WHAT KAYLA SAID AT THE BEGINNING IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WHEN YOU MAKE VOTES ON ZONING, STRAIGHT ZONING, THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE PUD ZONING, THIS IS JUST ZONING.
YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER ALL OF THE ALLOWABLE USES, UH, WITHIN THAT ZONING CATEGORY.
NOT WHAT THE, UH, LANDOWNER IS TELLING YOU THEIR SPECIFIC INTENDED USE IS.
BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO LIMIT TO THAT USE, YOU HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, WHERE, WHICH IS A CONTRACT.
BUT WHAT WE ARE GIVING THE LANDOWNER WITH THIS QUESTION IS RETAIL SERVICES AND EVERYTHING THAT IS LESS INTENSE THAN RETAIL SERVICES.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S IN, UH, UM, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, ANYTHING THAT'S IN COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, ALL OF THAT CAN GO INTO THIS CATEGORY AS WELL.
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AT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER, AND THIS IS THE STATE LAW, WHICH IS WHERE I, I THOUGHT MAYBE AMY MIGHT JUMP IN, BUT YOU, YOU, WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING A, A CASE DELIBERATELY AS A COUNCIL BY STATE LAW, YOU ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO CONSIDER THE LAND USE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.AND WHETHER OR NOT THE LAND USE IN ITS ENTIRETY FITS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CONSIDER THE SPECIFIC INTENDED USE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PUT FORWARD.
BECAUSE IF YOU VOTE NO, BECAUSE YOU SAY VERBALLY THAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE SPECIFIC INTENDED USE, UH, THEN THAT'S A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW.
SO WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE JUST VOTED ON AND ALL OF THE POTENTIAL USES AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT, AND I'M NOT MAKING ANY JUDGEMENTS 'CAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA ASK FOR THE MAP AGAIN 'CAUSE I COULDN'T QUITE SEE IT.
UM, BUT JUST THAT, THAT'S MY ADVICE.
AND IF AMY WANTS TO JUMP IN OR IF ANYONE ELSE I CAN HEAR WILL, WILL IN MY HEAD, ALL THE ALLOWABLE USES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD HIM SAY THAT.
WHEN, BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE WERE DOING LOTS OF ZONING DISCUSSION, I GUESS, UM, IS IT LISTED AS WHAT THE BUSINESS NAME IS? IS IT QUANTUM MODEL? YES.
SO THAT IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT LIKE MAYOR MITCHELL JUST SAID, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, UM, ALL OF THE POTENTIAL USES, UM, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS ALSO PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL IF YOU NEED TO REFERENCE THAT.
UM, SO WHILE THE, WHILE THE INTENDED USE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
YOU ALSO DO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE OTHER ALLOWABLE USES.
UM, THERE ARE SOME CONSTRAINTS WITH THIS SITE, WITH IT BEING A FLAG LOT, WITH IT BEING, YOU KNOW, UNDER AN ACRE.
UM, AND WITH ALL OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET, YOU KNOW, A FIRETRUCK IN THERE AND HAVE THEM BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND.
THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME CONSTRAINTS THAT KIND OF LIMIT WHAT THE USES COULD BE.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING A WALMART THERE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, IT'S JUST THE SITE'S NOT BIG ENOUGH.
UM, SO THERE ARE SOME CONSTRAINTS WITH THAT, BUT ULTIMATELY YOU SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT ALL OF THE ALLOWABLE USES ARE.
IT'S A SMALL LOT, BUT IT'S, IT OPENS UP A BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT COULD BE USED.
SO I, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK IF WE COULD PUT THE, THE MAP BACK UP.
DO YOU WANT THE CURRENT ZONING MAP OR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP? JUST THE MAP THAT WILL SHOW EXACTLY WHERE IT IS.
THE ONE THAT IT SHOWED, THE, THE, THE UC RIGHT THERE.
IT'S RIGHT OFF ONE 50.7 ACRES.
WHAT IS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? IT'S SUNSET RIDGE.
WHAT'S THE STREET RIGHT BEFORE IT? IT'S SUNSET RIDGE AREA.
I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE, UM, WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA PUT DOWN AS FAR AS, UH, SURFACE AND, UM, IT, DO WE HAVE TO DO A STUDY ON, YOU KNOW, RUNOFF IF THEY DO PUT SOME DOWN, AND HERE'S MY CONCERN REALLY, IS THAT IF THEY PUT DOWN BASE, IT'S JUST GONNA BLOW INTO ALL THE NEIGHBOR'S YARDS THAT ARE THERE.
IF WE DO PAVEMENT, THEN IT'S A LITTLE BETTER.
OR EVEN CRUSH PAVEMENT WOULD BE GREAT.
I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT IT BEING, UH, LIKE WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF OUR YOUNG LUMBER COMPANIES HERE WHERE THE TRUCKS RUN AROUND AND THE DUST TILE COMES OUT.
LUCKILY OUR LUMBERYARD HERE IS FAR AWAY FROM ANY NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT RIGHT HERE IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT IT BEING A NUISANCE LATER.
I, I REMEMBER A RESIDENT, UH, CALLING ME, 'CAUSE THEIR HOUSE WAS NEXT TO A SITE LIKE THIS.
UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND, UH, THEY WERE SAYING EVERY TIME THE TRUCKS DROVE DRIVING THAT ROAD, IT WAS, IT WAS DIRT ROAD.
SO IT WAS DUSTING EVERYTHING IN THEIR YARD UP EVERY DAY.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT DRIVEWAY GONNA LOOK LIKE? MM-HMM.
SO THESE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE COVERED IN OUR CODE.
REMEMBER, THEY'RE NOT REALLY ZONING RELATED.
SO THEY WILL COMPLY WITH THE CITY CODE CODE WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPING.
AND KAYLA MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT'S IN THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEFORE THE COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.
UM, PRETTY MUCH, UM, ANY, ANY SURFACE THAT'S GOING TO BE DRIVEN ON WOULD HAVE TO BE PAVEMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CODE.
AND ALSO THERE ARE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITATIONS AS WELL.
SO YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE, UM, DUST AND DEBRIS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT.
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I, I GUESS THE SAME CONCERN EVERYBODY HAS IS, YOU KNOW, UH, IS IT GONNA BE A STORAGE WAREHOUSE WHERE WE'RE JUST STORING STUFF IN? IT'S AN EYESORE.BUT WILL THERE BE A SITE PLAN? SORRY, I DON'T WANNA JUMP IN.
WILL THERE, WILL THIS COME BACK? WILL THIS COME BACK TO US WITH THE SITE PLAN OR ANYTHING TO REVIEW? NO.
SO WITH STRAIGHT ZONING, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A CONCEPT PLAN.
AGAIN, IT FALLS UNDER THE MM-HMM.
AND THAT WOULD DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE SITE PLAN.
UM, I WILL SAY THIS IS IN THE FM ONE 50 OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH DOES NOT REALLY HAVE ANY STANDARDS ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT THE I 35 OVERLAY HAS.
UM, BUT IT DOES KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BRING BOTH PARTIES TO THE TABLE, UM, TO COORDINATE ON THE SITE AND THE ARCHITECTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT WILL GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UM, FOR THEIR APPROVAL OF THE, ULTIMATELY THE SITE PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS.
MAYOR PATAM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, UM, ITEM 19.
DID YOU SET, YOU DENY? MM-HMM.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM 16.
IS THERE ANY DIS UM, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY TO DENY ITEM 16.
IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
I DON'T WANNA BE TOO QUICK TO DENY THIS.
I'M JUST GONNA BE HONEST WITH THIS.
'CAUSE THE, UM, THE LAND USE IS REAL SMALL AND I'M THINKING WHAT ELSE CAN GO THERE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I DEFINITELY WANT US TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS.
IT'S JUST A WEIRD SHAPED PROPERTY.
UM, IT'S OWNED BY AN INDIVIDUAL.
I AM LOOKING AT THE LAND USES.
IT'S SO WIDE, YOU KNOW, AND THERE IS NOTHING SPECIFIC.
AND THEN IF HE CHANGES THE MINE, WELL, HE'S LIMITED TO WHAT HE CAN CHANGE HIS MIND TO.
WITH THE RS SERVICE ZONING, TO ME IT WILL END UP BEING SOME SORT OF, SOME SORT OF JUNKYARD.
I MEAN, WE'RE IT'S SPECULATION THOUGH.
BUT THEN LIKE, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THEN THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.
IT IS RIGHT NOW AG THAT IS NOT GONNA STAY AG? NO.
UM, WE'VE GOT A PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS REQUESTING, I THINK FOR THE ONE 50 CORRIDOR, PRETTY REASONABLE ZONING RS.
UM, IT'S NOT EXCESSIVE USE FOR THAT AREA.
UH, IT HAS, UM, ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY, TWO PIECES OVER THAT IS ALREADY RS.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE IT DOES BACK UP TO RESIDENTIAL, THERE WILL BE BUFFERING AND FENCING AND, UM, I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANYTHING JUNKY GOING IN THERE.
SO I, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER TO HAVE A ZONING.
UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT ELSE WE WOULD WANT.
WHAT OTHER KIND OF ZONING WE MIGHT WANT THERE OTHER THAN RS MAYOR HAD HIS HAND UP.
MAYOR MITCHELL, I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE MAKE SURE WE KEEP OUR COMMENTARY ON, UH, THE, WHETHER THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND USE AND THE OVERALL SCHEME.
QUESTION OF QUESTION OF USE, UH, AND, UH, COMMENTARY WITH REGARDS TO MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.
THOSE ARE ALL ADDRESSED IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR CODE AND THEY CANNOT BE USED AS THE BASIS FOR OUR CONSIDERATION IN A ZONING CASE.
SO TRYING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
YEAH, I THINK I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
I MEAN, OURS IS PROBABLY THE BEST USE OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UH, I I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE.
IT'S THE SIZE OF THE LOT THAT GETS 'EM.
UH, I, I HAVE A HARD TIME JUST TELLING A PERSON WHO OWNS SOME LAND THAT CAN'T USE IT.
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE RS THE ZONING IS PROBABLY RIGHT FOR THAT AREA.
PROBABLY THE ONLY KIND OF ZONING FOR, I MEAN, IT'S EVEN TOO SMALL FOR AG ANYMORE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT RS ZONING ON ONE 50 IS WHAT WE FIGHT FOR AS A ZONING CASE.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH HOW WE, HOW WE ADDRESS OR, AND RS IS OWNING REQUESTS ON ONE 50.
I THINK IT IS A GREAT USE FOR THAT WEIRD SHAPED PROPERTY.
I, I THINK IT'S, UH, PROBABLY THE ONLY THING YOU CAN APPROVE
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IN THAT AREA.THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT CAN COME TO MIND THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THAT.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I NEED TO RE I NEED TO RECAST TO, IT'S TO, UM, ALL THOSE UH, OPPOSED, AYE.
UH, WHAT WAS THE VOTE? MAYOR PRO WAS A VOTE CALL ON THE MOTION.
LET'S DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS ONE.
WAS IT TWO? WAS IT THREE? THREE OR FOUR TO TWO TO NINE? IT WAS A THREE.
THREE TO DENY THE ZONING IT WAS THREE.
IF THE MOTION, IF THE MOTION TO DENY FAILED FOUR TO TWO.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO, UH, IT FAILED AND WE'RE GOING, IS THAT RIGHT, BRIAN? ARE WE GONNA DO ROLL CALL? VOTE? 'CAUSE IT WAS CONFUSING.
WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL TO LET'S WHAT THE VOTE WAS.
STATE YOUR MOTION AGAIN PLEASE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE CH THE ZONING CHANGE FOR ITEM 16.
AND, AND I HAD GOTTEN A SECOND FROM SUNGA SUN.
DO I STILL HAVE IT OR NOT? YES.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS.
[20) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on the Roadway Condition and Preservation 5-Year Capital Improvements Plan.]
STAFF REPORTS AND PRESENTATION.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TIM.
MIKE MURPHY, DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES.
SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU, UH, IS A GOOD, A GOOD NEWS ITEM.
AND THIS IS A STATUS REPORT ON OUR ROADWAY CONDITIONS PRESERVATION AND CIP PLANNING.
SO IN FEBRUARY, JUST A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY HERE, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES REALLY QUICK, BUT A BRIEF HISTORY HERE.
BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 23, COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH KCI TECHNOLOGIES TO PERFORM A COMPREHENSIVE EVALUATION OF THE CONDITION OF THE ROADWAY PAVEMENT AND PROVIDE GUIDANCE FOR FUTURE FUNDING LEVELS.
THE PROCESS UTILIZED, UH, KCI TO DEVELOP A REPORT USING THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX.
SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE GOOD NEWS IS, UH, THE LARGE MAJORITY OF OUR STREETS ARE IN A GOOD TO SATISFACTORY CONDITION.
AND WE MET WITH A, UH, WITH A CONTRACTOR JUST TODAY, AND HE WA HE WAS AMAZED AT THE CONDITION OF OUR ROADWAYS HERE.
AND, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT TESTAMENT TO THE HARDWORKING MEN AND WOMEN IN THE PUBLIC COURSE DEPARTMENT WHO MAINTAINED THESE STREETS.
SO THE STREET CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR THE FIVE YEAR PLANNING.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT $1 MILLION IN OUR ROAD REHABILITATION PROGRAM AND $500,000 IN OUR MICROSURFACING PROGRAM.
AND YOU JUST SAW CITY, UM, ENGINEER BARBARA PRE, UH, PRESENTING A CONTRACT FOR VIKING CONSTRUCTION TO START WORK ON THE MICROSURFACING PROGRAM.
UM, THE ROADS THAT WE'VE FINISHED SO FAR ARE THE INDIAN PAINTBRUSH ROAD, UM, GO FORTH ROAD, WHICH WAS A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE, UH, I THINK WE BUDGETED $1.4 MILLION IN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND TO DO THAT.
AND THEN WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON HIDE AND RECH, WHICH WE'VE GOT ANOTHER $1.2 MILLION THAT IS WELL UNDERWAY.
AND THESE ARE ALL BEING PERFORMED BY CITY CREWS, WHICH IS A, A TESTAMENT TO, UM, A LOT OF THINGS.
BUT, UH, THE ELEMENTS IN THE ENVIRONMENT IS, IS PRETTY HARSH ON THESE MEN DOING THIS WORK.
SO WE WANT TO DEFINITELY THANK THEM.
BUT SO FAR, UH, IN FIRST YEAR OF THIS
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PROGRAM, WE'VE COMPLETED 10 LANE MILES OF TWO INCH MILLING OVERLAY, 1.2 MILES OR TWO FIVE MILE LANE MILES OF FULL DEATH REPAIR AND THREE AND A HALF LANE MILES OF CHIP SILL.AND WE'VE GOT MORE TO DO, UH, AS WE GO INTO THE YEAR.
UM, AND, UM, SO APPROXIMATELY, UM, TWO LANE MILES OF MILL AND OVERLAY OLD STAGE COACH OPAL LANE, UM, ROLAND ROAD AND POST ROAD.
UH, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE REST OF THEM THAT WE'VE GOT LAID OUT HERE AND THE MICRO CEILING, UM, JUST LIKE, UH, CITY ENGINEER BARBARA WAS SAYING, UM, WITH VIKING CONSTRUCTION IN THIS PROJECT, WE HOPE TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED, UM, HOPEFULLY BY OCTOBER, IF NOT OCTOBER, THEN BY SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER, WHICH IS A VERY AGGRESSIVE MICRO SEALING, UH, UH, PROGRAM.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE ROADS THAT ARE ON OUR LIST TO, TO COVER WITH THAT.
SO APPROXIMATELY 15 LANE, THIS IS THE UPCOMING PROJECTS FOR 24 25.
UH, WE'VE GOT 15 LANE MILES PROGRAMMED OF, UH, MILL AND OVERLAY, FOUR LANE MILES OF CHIP SEAL AND 34 LANE MILES OF MICROSURFACING.
AND THE AREAS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON, YOU CAN SEE ARE STAGE COAST IN SOUTH LAKE GREEN, UM, IN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE CRYSTAL BALL KIND OF A THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO AND GROUPING STREETS TOGETHER, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING THE WORST CONDITION.
AND TYPICALLY WHAT WE WILL DO IN THIS, IN THIS NEXT THREE TO OUR YEARS, THREE THROUGH FIVE, IS WE'LL IDENTIFY THOSE REALLY BAD ROADS AND THEN AS THE, AND WE'LL TAKE A SURROUNDING LOOK AT THE AREA SO WE CAN DO NEIGHBORHOODS INSTEAD OF HOPSCOTCHING AROUND THE CITY.
WE FIND THIS IS GONNA BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
AND THEN THE FINAL SLIDE IS THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE LEFT TO DO, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND I KNOW THIS IS HARD TO READ, IT'S A HARD, THIS SLIDE IS NOT A, THE SLIDES ARE NOT WHAT? I CAN'T SEE IT SCREEN.
ARE THEY SHOWING THIS SCREEN? I'M NOT.
NOW, NOW THEY JUST GOT OVER HERE.
UM, SO THESE, THESE ARE THE ROADS THAT WE ARE GOING TO COMPLETE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND, AND SOME OF THEM WE'RE GETTING SOONER.
LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO GROUPS INSTEAD OF JUST INDIVIDUAL STREETS, BECAUSE IF YOU'VE GOT A, A, A ROAD THAT'S IN TERRIBLE CONDITION AND YOU GOT ONE THAT'S IN POOR CONDITION NEXT TO IT AND ONE THAT'S IN VERY POOR, YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR, OUR PROGRAMMING IS GONNA BE.
WE TRY TO GROUP ALL THOSE TO MINIMIZE THE, UM, HAVING TO REMOBILIZE FOR EVERY LITTLE PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA WORK OUR WAY ACROSS THE CITY AND IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE'LL HAVE ALL THESE ROADS COMPLETE.
AND THEN, UM, THIS IS JUST, JUST OUR APPROACH ON HOW WE DO IT, BASICALLY WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.
AND THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT GOES INTO LOCATING THE STREETS, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A WATER SEWER LINE PROJECT, YOU WANT TO DO THAT AHEAD OF THE REPAVING OR RESURFACING.
AND SO WE TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT AND THEN WE TRY TO, WE TRY TO BE AS, AS MONEY WISE AS WE CAN POSSIBLY BE BY TRYING TO GROUP THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER AND, AND DO LARGE, UH, SWATCHES OF ROAD INSTEAD OF SMALL PIECES.
REAL QUICK, MIKE, UH, MAYBE I'M NOT SEEING IT, BUT I KNOW THAT PRAIRIE AND THE CREEK WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THAT LIST, OR IS, IS THAT OUR JUST BEING DONE? SO IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST, BUT PRAIRIE AND THE CREEK WAS SOMETHING WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
UM, I HAD TALKED TO ABOUT, UM, WITH OUR FARMER STREET DIVISION, UH, HARPER WILDER, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMING FORWARD.
IS PRAIRIE ON THE CREEK ON ANY LIST AT ALL? WELL, LET ME JUST ASK MY STAFF HERE.
WHERE'S CHRIS AT? CHRIS? YES SIR.
YOU HONOR SCOTT BERT, UH, CITY OF KYLE STREETS DEPARTMENT.
UH, I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT, SEE WHERE IT FALLS ON K C'S YEARLY LAYOUT.
UM, SEE WHAT SECTIONS THEY HAVE ON THERE.
UM, I CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF NEEDED, IF, JUST DEPENDING ON WHERE IT FALLS.
AND ONE REASON WHY IS THAT WE HAD BEEN TALKING AND, UH, WE HAD, UH, TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS THERE AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THE CRACK SEAL AND THEN GO BACK AND SEAL THE, THE PA THE PAVE COMPLETELY AND SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.
UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT THAT TIMELINE 'CAUSE THERE WERE PROMISES AND I, I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE A PROMISE TO SOMEONE AND THEN SEE IT NOT COME TO FRUITION.
SO YES, SIR, I'LL LOOK INTO THAT.
MAYOR PERAM, COULD YOU TELL ME THE ROAD AGAIN THAT YOU'RE MENTIONING? QUITE IT'S THE SUBDIVISION, UH, IT'S, UH, PRAYER AND A CREEK PRAYER AND, ALRIGHT, GOOD.
SO SCOTT IS OUR DIVISION MANAGER OVER, UH, ROAD RESURFACING.
MANY OTHER DUTIES THAT HE PERFORMS TOO.
SO ANYHOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF THAT PRESENTATION.
IT'S A GOOD NEWS PRESENTATION.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ON TRACK FOR THIS FIRST YEAR.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN OUR UPCOMING BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK TO, UH, EXPAND THAT PROGRAM, UH, FROM $1 MILLION TO, UH, $1.8 MILLION FOR REHABILITATION AND FROM 500,000 TO $1 MILLION FOR, FOR MICROSURFACING.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OUR UPCOMING BUDGET PRESENTATION.
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THANK YOU.THAT INCLUDE THE STRIPING, MIC, STRIPING, ALL THE OTHER, IS THIS JUST THE MICROSURFACING? NO.
SO STRIPING IS PART OF, PART OF OUR PROGRAM.
WE'VE GOT, UH, WE'VE GOT A GOOD STRIPING TEAM AND WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BE USING THOSE FELLOWS TO DO THIS PRO UH, ASSIST IN THIS PROGRAM.
REAL QUICK, COUNSEL, VIRTUAL ABUSE, REAL QUICK REFERENCING YOUR WORKERS, THE CITY CREWS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
I SAW SCOTT THE OTHER DAY AT A GAS STATION.
HE WAS COMPLETELY FEELING DIRT, COMPLETELY SWEATY, YOU KNOW, BUT HE WAS JUST SAYING THAT YEAH, WE'RE KNOCKING OUT HIDE RIDE.
WE'RE GETTING IT DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
BUT THAT JUST SHOWS RIGHT THERE THE DEDICATION THAT THESE EMPLOYEES HAVE IN THESE GUYS WITH THE STREET.
SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, SCOTT, FOR, FOR BEING, BEING OUT THERE WORKING REALLY HARD.
UH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
EVEN THOUGH YOUR GUYS ARE OUT THERE IN THE HOT SUN, YOU'RE OUT THERE LAYING DOWN ALL THAT PAVEMENT.
REMEMBER, YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE, FOR THE RESIDENTS.
YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT WHILE YOU'RE OUT THERE PAVING THAT ROAD, THAT THEY HAVE A SAFE ROAD TO DRIVE ON.
AND SO JUST REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU GUYS, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE WORKING HARD IN THAT SUN, THAT WE ALL APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THIS WORK.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU ON THAT.
COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, I'M GONNA TAG ALONG ON TO WHAT TOBIAS WAS SAYING BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN YOUR CREW WORK NONSTOP.
AND, UH, IT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED ALSO THE RESPONSE TIME.
LIKE THE MINUTE THAT I MESSAGED SAYING, HEY, I HAVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS, IT'S LIKE, WITHIN 24 HOURS, THEN I SEE THE CRUISE.
SO I, I, THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE SINCE I GOT ON COUNCIL.
IT'S JUST LIKE, JESUS, THIS IS REALLY WORKING.
AND SO IT MAKES ME VERY EXCITED.
I JUST WANT TO FINISH OFF WITH, UH, COUNCIL VISEZ BRINGS A GREAT POINT.
TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF, TAKE CARE OF YOUR GUYS.
MAKE SURE WE'RE TAKING APPROPRIATE BREAKS AND WE'RE STAYING HYDRATED.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS A CITY TO HELP OUT IN THAT FRONT, LET US KNOW.
AND THEN JUST KNOW THAT, UH, WE KNOW THE DANGERS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW WITH THE EXTREME HEAT.
AND JUST TAKE CARE OF Y'ALL CELLS, PLEASE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.
YEAH, WE GOT THIS, THIS IS GOOD NEWS TOO.
[21) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on Water Utilities and Public Works Department proposed budget and Capital Improvements Plan for Fiscal Year 2024-2025.]
SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS ON THIS ONE.ITEM 21, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON WATER, UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORK DEPARTMENT.
PROPOSED BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THANK YOU MIKE MURPHY AGAIN.
UH, DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES.
AND THE GOOD NEWS ON THIS ONE IS WHEN WE FIRST MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK I HAD 80 SLIDES.
AND SO, UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'VE, WE'VE NARROWED THAT DOWN TO JUST AROUND 20 SLIDES THAT I CAN GO THROUGH VERY QUICKLY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS ON THIS PROJECT.
SO HERE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS SINCE I, I GOT HERE ON REORGANIZING THREE DEPARTMENTS, UH, WATER UTILITIES, PUBLIC WORKS, AND ENGINEERING.
AND SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY IS OUR NEW ORG CHART AND, AND WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, BUT, UM, SO IS NOW, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER UTILITIES.
AND UNDERNEATH THAT WE'VE GOT THE WASTEWATER WATER AND WASTEWATER DIVISION.
WE'VE GOT PUBLIC WORKS DIVISION, AND WE'VE ALSO GOT ENGINEERING.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT 44 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES IN, IN WATER WASTEWATER, 58 EMPLOYEES IN, UM, PUBLIC WORKS.
AND THEN 13, UM, IN ENGINEERING.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WHILE THIS KIND OF COMES TOGETHER, AND I KNOW THIS IS A, THIS IS A BIG BUSY SLIDE HERE, AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH IT VERY QUICKLY.
BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE CREATED A BLUEPRINT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER UTILITIES.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE HERE IN BLUE IS OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE IN GREEN ARE OUR PROPOSED, UH, UH, EMPLOYEES FOR THE, WHAT WE'RE CALLING PHASE ONE OF THE BLUEPRINT.
AND THEN WHAT YOU SEE IN RED IS GONNA BE IN PHASE THREE.
AND CURRENTLY WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 16 EMPLOYEES, UH, THIS YEAR IN WATER UTILITIES.
DID THAT SWITCH? NO, I'M SORRY.
I F****D, MY THUMB WENT TOO FAST.
OKAY, SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE ORG CHART FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, WHAT YOU SEE IN BLUE IS OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, FOR EMPLOYEES OR OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FOR EMPLOYEES IN PUBLIC WORKS.
WHAT YOU SEE IN GREEN IS OUR PROPOSED PHASE ONE, WHICH IS, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25.
AND WHAT YOU SEE IN RED IS FISCAL YEAR 26.
AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE LOOKING AT CREATING A, UH, DEPARTMENT OR A DIVISION OF TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION.
THIS IS GONNA BE NEW FOR THE CITY.
AND WHAT YOU SEE ON THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE CHART THERE IS IN
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YELLOW IS WHAT IS OUR PROPOSED CURRENTLY PROPOSED ORG CHART FOR THIS, THIS DEPARTMENT.WE PUT A PLACEHOLDER IN THERE THIS YEAR FOR A DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION.
IT MAY BE A DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, IT MAY BE A, UH, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER OVER TRANSPORTATION.
IT MAY BE AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ON THE PUBLIC WORKS.
BUT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT AS PART OF OUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WE'LL COVER HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
AND SO, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS A BIG STEP FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND, UH, AND THE CITY TO CREATE ITS OWN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL LIKE THE TIME IS RIGHT NOW TO DO THIS.
OKAY? SO THIS IS ENGINEERING, ENGINEERING.
WHEN THEY, THEY HAD A VERY FLAT CHART.
YOU HAD ALL THIR, ALL 12 ENGINEERS WORKING UNDERNEATH LEON.
AND SO, UM, I THINK WE WERE ABOUT TO KILL LEON WITH, UH, ALL THE WORK THAT WE WERE PUTTING ON HIM TO DO THAT.
SO, UH, TO HIS CREDIT, HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.
BUT WE WANT TO, UH, BRING UP LOU ZANG.
SO SHE IS THE ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER, SO WE'RE GIVING HER MORE RESPONSIBILITY AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE SOME OF THE LOAD OFF OF LEON SO THAT HE CAN SPEND MORE TIME ON DOING THOSE THINGS THAT I NEED FOR HIM TO DO.
SO, BUT, BUT ANYHOW, SO THIS IS THE REORG THAT WE'RE DOING FOR ENGINEERING.
AND EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN BLUE IS WHAT IS EXISTING.
AND WHAT YOU SEE IN GREEN IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN PHASE ONE THIS YEAR.
AND THE CRITICAL ONES THAT I THINK, UM, ARE GONNA HAVE THE MOST IMMEDIATE IMPACT.
NOT THAT THEY WON'T ALL, BUT, UM, THE LAND ACQUISITION MANAGER AND, UM, ASSISTANT TO THE LAND ACQUISITION MANAGER AND THE, AND THE ORG CHART.
AND SO, UM, AS YOU KNOW, PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, HOW MANY PROJECTS WE HAVE THAT REQUIRE EASEMENTS, LAND ACQUISITION NEGOTIATIONS WITH HOMEOWNERS AND LANDOWNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S ABOUT TIME TO BRING THIS, THIS, UH, THESE TWO POSITIONS ON BOARD.
AND THIS IS GONNA TAKE A LOT OF BURDEN OFF OF, UH, THE DEPARTMENTS ON HAVING TO TRACK ALL THIS STUFF DOWN THEMSELVES.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS, UH, THE, UH, THIS IN THE, THIS, THESE TWO POSITIONS TO TAKE OVER THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
AND THEN WE WANT TO IDENTIFY A PROJECT MANAGER SPECIFICALLY SPECIFICALLY FOR PARKS AND RECREATION PROJECTS.
OKAY? SO THAT, THAT GIVES US THE, THAT GETS YOU PAST THE STRUCTURAL PART, UH, OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
AND SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GET IT QUICKLY.
I'M GONNA GO REALLY FAST HERE.
SO SOME OF THE SUCCESSES AND HIGHLIGHTS, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THESE.
MOST OF THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE THESE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
YOU SEE OUR MEN OUT THERE WORKING HARD ON THESE PROJECTS.
SO WE HAD SEVERAL PROJECTS COMPLETED IN OUR MILL AND OVERLAY PROGRAM, AND THEY'RE ALL LISTED RIGHT THERE.
UH, AND EQUALLY AS TOUGH A JOB AS THE SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
UH, WHETHER IT'S SIDEWALK REPAIR OR CONSTRUCTION AND POTHOLES.
UH, WE INITIATED A CURB REPAINTING PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THE RESPONSE THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING OUT OF THAT.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
AND THEN, UM, IN THE WATER SIDE OF THE, OF THE OPERATION, THE EXPANSION, UH, OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, IT'S A BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT AND HAPPY TO BE WORKING ON.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT 44 ACTIVE CIP PROJECTS.
UM, 40 OF 'EM ARE IN DESIGN AND CLOSE TO BIDDING OUT MANY OF THEM.
AND THEN FOR UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN WE GOT OUR BIG PROJECT THAT COUNCIL GAVE US MONEY FOR EMERGENCY FUNDING FOR THE 1626, UH, UH, A AR WA WATER TAKE POINT, UH, THAT YOU SEE.
IT'S JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OVERPASS.
ON THE OTHER, UH, I GUESS IT'S, UH, WEST OF, UH, HEBI THINK THAT'S RIGHT WEST OF HEB.
UM, AND THAT IS A BIG PROJECT AND WE'RE GONNA BE GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT ALONG WITH ARWA AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THEIR PIPELINE PROJECT, BUT I'VE ALSO ASKED TIM TO PUT, PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION, UM, ON THE STATUS OF THE 1626 PROJECT, BECAUSE THAT WAS A $25 MILLION ASK THAT, THAT COUNCIL APPROVED.
AND WE WANNA SHOW YOU THE GOOD WORK THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT THERE AND, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT PROJECT IS ON SCHEDULE FOR FEBRUARY OF 25, WHICH IS, IS, IS, UH, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG STEP IN ITS OWN RIGHT.
SO THAT, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN, EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THAT'S UNDERWAY.
SEVERAL OF YOU ATTENDED THESE OPEN HOUSES THAT WE HAD A FEW WEEKS AGO.
AND THEN WE'RE, THE CITY STAFF IS ALSO WORKING CLOSELY WITH, UH, HAYES INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.
'CAUSE WHEN WE INSTALL THESE SIDEWALKS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EVERYTHING IS, IS WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THEIR BUS ROUTES BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT.
SO WE'RE WORKING VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT LEADERSHIP.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE, WELL UNDERWAY, WE'VE GOT THE WATER MASTER PLAN.
SO JUST JUST LAID OUT QUICKLY THE, UH, 16 EMPLOYEES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN WATER AND WASTEWATER.
YOU CAN SEE 'EM ALL LISTED THERE.
UH, AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS, WE'RE ASKING FOR A TOTAL OF EIGHT EMPLOYEES AND ENGINEERING A TOTAL OF FOUR EMPLOYEES.
AND THIS FOR THIS FIRST YEAR, UH, THIS IS, UH, WE'LL ADD 28 EMPLOYEES TO OUR EXISTING PORTFOLIO OF
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EMPLOYEES.UH, WATER UTILITIES, PROPOSED BUDGET CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS YEAR.
WE GOT THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THAT WILL, WILL TIE INTO, UH, OUR TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION, UH, DIVISION.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DESIGN THAT BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TRA UH, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
AND THIS IS, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS SORELY NEEDED THAT WE, THIS IS SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT ALMOST AT EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS, UH, TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION.
THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES AN INI STUDY, IS 750,000.
THE REASON THAT IS SO HIGH IS TYPICALLY ABOUT A $500,000 STUDY.
BUT CITY ENGINEER IS PUTTING IN $250,000 ON HIS, UH, UH, SEWER MONITORING PROGRAM THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER.
AND HE'S ALREADY GOT FUNDING $250,000 FUNDING FOR THAT, UM, DRAINAGE FEE STUDY.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, UH, STREET IMPACT FEE STUDY.
AND WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO IS TO INCLUDE THAT IMPACT FEE STUDY WITH THE WATER WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE STUDY.
THAT'LL SAVE US SOME TIME AND MONEY.
AND THEN THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN THAT, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AMBER, IS GONNA BE GOING THROUGH HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, EQUIPMENT, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR OPERATIONS, AND A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE SAFETY RELATED AND A LOT OF PROJECTS ARE JUST, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE 'EM.
AND, UM, THE TOTAL REQUEST FOR, UM, FOR WASTEWATER AND FOUR PUBLIC WORKS IS, UH, JUST, JUST UNDER $2.7 MILLION.
AND THEY'RE ALL LISTED OUT HERE.
AND IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE, I GOT, UH, THE TEAM HERE THAT CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE NEED OF THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
SO, CLOSING OUT OUR OPERATING BUDGET, IT'S A BIG ASK.
WE KNOW IT'S A BIG ASK, BUT, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING 37 POINT, UH, $37.7 MILLION IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET, AND THAT'S ABOUT A SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
AND A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO THE WELLBEING OF OUR AND HEALTH OF OUR WATER UTILITIES, OUR ROADWAYS, AND, UM, OUR CAPITAL PROJECT PROGRAM.
OKAY, SO LET'S GET INTO THE, UM, CIP BUDGET.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS I DID THAT ONE.
SO, OUR PRIORITIZATION, PRO PRIORITIZATION PROCESS AND CREATING OUR CIP SPENDING PLAN IS VERY SIMPLE.
WE TAKE THE HIGH PRIORITY, HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS OF CITY COUNCIL, HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS OF OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER MODELS.
UH, WE IDENTIFIED THE HIGH PRIORITY, UM, BASED ON OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENT PLAN, AND OUR DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.
AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ALL KIND OF PUT IN A PUT IN OUR, UM, OUR LITTLE MIXING POT AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A, A REALLY GOOD, STRONG, SOLID, UM, SPENDING PLAN.
SO, UM, IN THIS, THIS YEAR'S, UM, SPENDING PLAN, I'M GONNA HIT ON SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE ASKING TO INCREASE OUR MICROSURFACING BUDGET TO $1 MILLION FROM WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS AT 500,000.
AND THEN OUR, UM, PRESERVATION AND RECONSTRUCTION BUDGET FROM $1 MILLION TO 1.88 MILLION.
SO OUR BUDGET WILL GO FROM 1.5 TO TO 2.88, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
AND THEN OUR WASTEWATER LINE REPAIR, UH, REPLACEMENT AND SLIP LINING PROGRAM, UH, TO INCREASE THAT TO $2.5 MILLION.
AND THIS IS TO REDUCE, UH, INFLOW INFILTRATION INTO OUR SEWER LINE.
THIS, THIS RESULTS IN, UH, WHEN WE HAVE LARGE RAINS, UM, UH, SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS, AND IT PUTS A HEAVY BURDEN ON, ON OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND UNTIL WE GET THAT UP TO THE 9 MILLION GALLON PER DAY LEVEL, THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL PROJECT TO MAINTAIN THE HEALTH AND CONDITION OF OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT SEVERAL DRAINAGE AND PROJECTS, UH, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FUNDED, UH, AT AN AMOUNT OF $13.2 MILLION.
AND YOU CAN SEE WE GOT THOSE LISTED OUT HERE.
SO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ACCESS ROAD, THIS IS A, SO THIS IS A CRITICAL PROJECT ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT LEVELS.
THE EXISTING ACCESS ROAD AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO CARRY THE KIND OF CONSTRUCTION LOADS THAT WE PUT ON IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND SO IT IS OBVIOUSLY VERY DETERIORATED.
UM, AND AS PART OF THE HIDE AND RIGHT PROJECT, WE'RE WAITING TO GET THROUGH THAT.
BUT WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS, UM, ROUGHLY 2300 LINEAR FEET OF ROAD INTO OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND THE BONUS TO THIS IS WE'RE GONNA CUT OFF ACCESS TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD.
NO LONGER ARE WE GONNA DRIVE OUR HEAVY TRUCKS, OUR WASTEWATER EQUIPMENT, OUR CONTRACTOR TRUCKS COMING THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE GONNA COME IN OFF OF HIDE AND RIGHT ROAD.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A WIN-WIN, NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE, IN THE, UH, NEIGHBORING AREA.
WE'RE LOOKING THERE, UH, SOUTH FOURTH SOUTH GOFOR DRAINAGE CHANNEL.
WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK ON GO FORTH ROAD, BIG PROJECT.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT $2 MILLION, UH, TO CONSTRUCT A CHANNEL SOUTH SIDE TO THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE
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OF WATERSTONE TO REDIRECT WATER INTO CLEAR FORK AT PLUM CREEK.AND THEN THE, UH, RECLAIMED WATER FILL STATION.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, IS A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR $1.5 MILLION TO BUILD, UH, AND ESTABLISH A CONTRACTOR FILL STATION SOMEWHERE ALONG THE, THE RECLAIMED WATER LINES.
UM, IN, IN OUR AREA, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIND THE BEST LOCATION THAT SATISFIES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT SATISFIES THE CONTRACTORS AND, UH, SATISFIES OUR, OUR EXISTING CUSTOMERS.
NOW, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO, TO, UH, GARNER SOME REVENUE OFF OF THIS 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA SELL THAT WATER.
AND USING THE SORT OF THE BUDDA MODEL, WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN GET SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $280,000 PER YEAR TO AROUND $300,000 A YEAR JUST BY SELLING WATER TO CONTRACTORS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE HAVING TO TRAVEL LONG DISTANCES, UM, TO GET WATER AND BRING IT BACK INTO THE CITY.
AND THAT HAS A, THAT HAS A DOMINO EFFECT ON COST OF CONSTRUCTION, PRICE OF HOMES, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT PLUS TAKING RECLAIMED WATER AND USING THAT FOR A GOOD USE.
UH, RECLAIMED, UH, IRRIGATION WATER FOR CITY PARKS, SAME, SAME THEORY.
WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY AREAS ALONG THE EXISTING PIPELINE.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR $2 MILLION TO DO THIS.
THE, THE CHALLENGE HERE IS WHAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS WATER, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS TO ADD TO OUR POTABLE WATER PORTFOLIO.
AND RECLAIMED WATER IS ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THOSE SOURCES.
WE EVEN MET ON IT AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY AFTERNOON TALKING ABOUT POSSIBILITIES OF HOW WE CAN USE THIS AND DO EITHER, UH, BY AQUIFER STORAGE OR DIRECT REUSE OF, OF RECLAIMED WATER.
SO THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE, THE WATER IS THERE, AND SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK REALLY HARD AT THAT AS PART OF OUR WATER MASTER PLAN, AND WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS BRING TO COUNCIL ON THAT.
UM, SO THE OTHER THING IS WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO, TO OUR BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS.
AND IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS OR A HOME NEXT TO A WASTEWATER, UH, OR WATER FACILITY OR A LIFT STATION, IT CAN, IT CAN BE AN ISSUE.
AND IT WOULD DRIVE ME CRAZY TOO IF, UH, IF THE, IF I LIVE NEXT TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THE CITY WASN'T TAKING CARE OF IT.
SO, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MASONRY FENCE PROJECT TO, UH, AND REPLACE ALL OF THE CHAIN LINK FENCES AROUND OUR 12, UH, UH, WATER FACILITIES.
AND SOME MAY, POSSIBLY SOME OF OUR, UH, LIFT STATION LOCATIONS THAT HAVE THAT, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR $3.1 MILLION TO DO THAT.
UH, I THINK THIS WILL BE A BIG BENEFIT TO THE CITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO LIVE NEXT TO OR ADJACENT TO, UM, ONE OF OUR FACILITIES.
YEAH, MIKE, ON THAT FENCE, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT, UH, AS HIGH AS POSSIBLE ON THE RESIDENT SIDE, SO THAT WAY THE AIR WILL ESCAPE A DIFFERENT ROUTE, UH, JUST TO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT HEY, EVERYTHING WE DO AS A CITY TO TRY TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE ORDERS WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
BUT IF WE COULD GET IT AS HIGH AS WE CAN ON THE RESIDENT SIDE, IT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO, UM, WORKING, WORKING WITH, UH, WITH WILL AND HIS TEAM AND MELISSA AND HER TEAM, WE'RE LOOKING AT EIGHT FOOT TO START THAT.
AND, AND NOT ONLY WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING IT FOR ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, BUT ALL NEW FACILITIES THAT WE BUILD IN THE FUTURE, THAT BECOMES PART OF, OF THE, UH, PROGRAM THAT WE GIVE TO THE CONTRACTORS WHEN THEY WANT TO DEVELOP A SITE, WHICH INCLUDES A, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF WATER UTILITY FACILITY.
IF, IF I COULD JUST ADD ON THAT REAL QUICK, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING THE FENCING, WE RECENTLY HAD AN ISSUE AGAIN IN WATER LEAF WHENEVER THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT LEAKED THROUGH TO WHERE WE HAD TO GET, YOU KNOW, GET IT REPAIRED.
ARE WE LOOKING AT ADDING THOSE ODOR FILTERS OR TANKS THAT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE? I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE 'EM OR NOT.
I, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT CAN HELP ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE ODORS? UH, OH, OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID ODORS SOMETHING.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS ABSOLUTELY, I DON'T THINK IT WAS ADDED IN THE BUDGET.
OR THE OIL, IT IS BUILT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY BE NEEDED.
AT ALL OF OUR LIST YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AT OUR LIMITATIONS.
SO WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT, AND, AND I BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SINCE I DID AN INTERVIEW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE ODOR PROBLEM WE HAD AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, I'VE GOT PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK TELLING ME THAT THEY'VE GOT A NEWER TECHNOLOGY ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ODORS AT LIFT STATIONS AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS,
I I'VE PROBABLY GOT FIVE OF THEM JUST TODAY.
SO YES, WE ARE DEFINITELY GONNA DO THAT.
THAT'S PART OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN, UH, WATER UTILITIES.
SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.
UM, AND SO HERE'S, HERE'S ANOTHER BIG ONE.
UM, AS, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE HIRING, YOU'RE TRYING TO HIRE ALL THESE ADDITIONAL STAFF.
SO, UM, AS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO, UM, FIND THE LAND TO BUILD, UH, MORE OFFICES AND OPERATION FACILITIES.
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HERE IS, UH, FOR LAND ACQUISITION, FOR A SITE TO PUT IN WATER UTILITIES, UM, ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATIONS, WHICH WE THINK ALSO WILL INCLUDE, AND YOU'LL HEAR AMBER ON, STILL OVER HER THUNDER.BUT ONE OF THE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A FLEET FACILITY WHERE WE START MAINTAINING AND MANAGING OUR OWN FLEET, WHICH IS CRITICAL INSTEAD OF RENTING EQUIPMENT FROM, FROM A, A CONTRACTOR.
AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A FUELING STATION FOR ALL CITY EQUIPMENT, CITY, UH, VEHICLES INCLUDING A LARGE WASHING BAY.
UM, AND, UM, AND A FUELING, FUELING STATIONS FOR ALL THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG THING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON VERY, VERY CLOSELY FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'RE THIS PROJECT AND ONE THAT FOLLOWS THIS, WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING A, UM, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT TO HELP US IDENTIFY POSSIBLY 15 ACRES, 16 ACRES FOR THIS.
AND SO WE'RE SETTING ASIDE $5 MILLION TO DO THAT.
MAYOR COUNCIL HARRIS, UM, ARE WE LOOKING AT, UM, CONVERTING SOME OF THE FLEET TO EV? YES, WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT THAT.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH ENTERPRISE.
UM, BUT WE HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT USE FOR IT IF, IF WE CAN POSSIBLY DO THAT.
BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT THAT AS PART OF OUR NEW FLEET.
SO CHARGING STATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN THE, IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE BUILD OUR OWN FUELING STATION FOR SURE, THERE WOULD BE CHARGING STATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO CITY OF ROUND ROCK, UH, SPEAKING WITH SOME OF THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE REALLY GONE TO A LOT OF THEIR VEHICLES BEING ELECTRIC FLEET.
AND WHAT THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THE COST SAVING ON NON COMBUSTIBLE ENGINE REPAIR.
BUT, UH, I WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT ROUND ROCK WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND GETTING SOME INPUT FROM THEM AND MAYBE, UH, WE CAN GET SOME GOOD PRACTICES ON WHERE WE COULD USE IT.
UH, BUT HAVING A PARTNER DOWN THE ROAD THAT IS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED WOULD PROBABLY A GOOD, BE A GOOD START.
AND SO, UM, HERE'S ANOTHER, AND SO WE, WE SORT OF CREATED THIS PHRASE IN, UH, IN OUR DEPARTMENT, UH, GOTTA GO PROJECTS.
THIS IS DEFINITELY A GOT TO GO PROJECT.
THIS IS THE THIRD, UH, ALLIANCE, THIRD TAKE POINT.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE I'M FOLLOWING UP WITH, UH, THAT TIM AND HIS TEAM ARE WORKING ON, UH, TO IDENTIFY A LOCATION, PREFERABLY IDEALLY A 12 ACRE SITE WHERE WE CAN PUT OUR NEXT TAKE POINT SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING ON, ON 1626.
THIS IS CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE THIS, UH, BUILT, UH, PIPELINE AND PUMP STATION BUILT AND READY TO TAKE WATER, UH, SOMETIME IN 2027.
NOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME OFF, BUT IN, IN THIS WORLD IT'S NOT.
SO IT'S GONNA BE ON US BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
SO THIS IS A CRITICAL GOT TO GO PROJECT, AND THIS IS 2 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER, UM, TO GO TO THE 1.7 THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN AT, UH, AT 1626.
SO THIS IS A GOTTA GO PROJECT.
YEAH, I'M GLAD, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF BRINGING IN LINE A, BUT LINE B AND C AS WELL IS IMPORTANT 'CAUSE THE LINES ON THE WATER ARE A, B, AND C.
SO BRINGING IN B AND C IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANT TO SEE COME IN SIMULTANEOUSLY.
SO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO GET THAT PROJECT GOING AND GET THAT WATER INTO THE CITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO THANKS FOR DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT.
WELL, MIKE, ON ON THAT IS THIS THIRD TAKE POINT.
WOULD THAT INCLUDE WATER COMING IN FROM THE SECOND PHASE OF THE PROJECT THAT WE JUST VOTED FOR? THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO 1626 NOW.
UM, TIM CAN, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT MEAN, THAT'S THE CURRENT PROJECT, BUT NO, THE CURRENT PROJECT IS 1.7 THAT'S GONNA GO INTO 1626 MM-HMM,
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON SCHEDULE TO BE READY TO TAKE THAT WATER.
SO THE ONE WE JUST VOTED FOR AT OUR WAS YES MA'AM.
THAT WE'RE GONNA PARTNER WITH GBRA.
UM, SO THIS THIRD TAKE POINT WOULD HANDLE WATER COMING IN FROM THAT, OR WOULD WE NEED ANOTHER TAKE POINT TO HANDLE MORE WATER FROM THAT? THIS, THIS.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS WHAT THE WATER COMING OUTTA THE CARRIZO AQUIFER.
SO WE GOT 1.7 GOING TO 1626 MM-HMM,
AND THEN WE'VE GOT ANOTHER 2 MILLION COMING IN FROM, UM, UH, WHEREVER WE DECIDE TO LOCATE THIS FACILITY, 2 MILLION COMING FROM THE CARRIZO AQUIFER.
NOW, THEY MAY HAVE TO EXPAND THEIR WILL, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT REALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE ON THAT 'CAUSE I'M STILL RELATIVELY NEW TO, TO ARAWA.
BUT, UM, ONCE WE GET INTO THE WIL WILCOX AQUIFER, WHICH IS IN THE 20 30, 20 35 IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, GOING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, THEN THAT WILL, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE EXISTING TAKE POINTS OR WE'LL HAVE TO CREATE NEW ONES, BUT, OKAY.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT YES, MA'AM.
NEXT PHASE OF THAT PROJECT THAT WE'RE GOING INTO.
ANYTHING TIM, YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? TIM SANFORD FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANTED, SO ONE C 1D IS THE NEXT PHASE OF THE ALLIANCE PROJECT ONE B IS WHAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED AND EXPECTED TO COME ONLINE FEBRUARY OF 25.
UM, SO THAT ONE C 1D WILL CONTRIBUTE TO ALL OF OUR TAKE POINTS, NOT ONLY THIS THIRD TAKE POINT, UH, THIS WAS IDENTIFIED THE THIRD TAKE POINT IN OUR MODELING THAT WE'VE CONDUCTED WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM AS A NEED TO SUSTAIN
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OUR DEMANDS IN PRESSURE PLANE NUMBER TWO.SO OUR PARTICIPATION IN THE ALLIANCE PROJECT GOING FORWARD, BEING MUCH GREATER WITH THE SUPPORTIVE COUNCIL AND AND STAFF IS IT WAS SOUGHT AS NECESSARY TO HAVE THIS AS A, AS A TAKE POINT TO ACCEPT THAT WATER AND BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE IT APPROPRIATELY IN THE WATER SYSTEM.
SO HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
MY, MY, MY KNOWLEDGE IS ABOUT HERE AND IT NEEDS TO BE ABOUT HERE, BUT WE'RE LEARNING TOGETHER, SO YOU AND I ARE ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
I, BRIAN, IF, UM, IF ALL OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS WERE TAKEN, UM, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THOSE INCREASING IMPACT FEES, AND I KNOW WE HAD TO KIND OF PROJECT THAT, WHAT WAS THE GROWTH, WHAT WAS THE WASTEWATER, WHAT WAS THE WATER NEEDS? SO, UM, AS WE'RE BUILDING AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ADDITIONAL TAKE POINTS, WERE ALL OF THESE PART OF THOSE FACTORS OR ARE THESE NOW AFTERWARD FACTORS? NO, THOSE WILL BE, SEEMS TO COME IN SO MUCH LATER.
SO THOSE WILL BE, SOME OF THESE WILL BE NEW COSTS.
AND WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEW, UH, WATER MASTER PLAN, A LOT OF THOSE WILL BE NEW COSTS THAT WEREN'T CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE IMPACT FEE.
SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WILL HAVE IS TO UPDATE THE IMPACT FEE CALCULATIONS BASED ON THAT NEW CAPITAL PLAN THAT WE COME UP WITH.
WE WON'T KNOW ALL THE WATER MASTER PLAN UNTIL, I THINK IT'S LATE THIS YEAR, THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR BEFORE WE GET ALL THOSE RIGHT.
WE'LL START DELIVERING INFORMATION TO US LATE THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S REALLY THE FIRST QUARTER OF 25 WHEN WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT MASTER PLAN COMPLETED.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE, THE COMMENTS COUNCIL HAD THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT THE IMPACT FEES WAS TO MAKE SURE WE WERE UPDATING THOSE ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS.
WE ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT.
SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE ALL THAT COST INFORMATION, WE'LL PLUG THAT IN, UPDATE THOSE FEES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RECOVERING AS MUCH OF THAT COST FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD IS THAT THE FEES HAVEN'T KEPT PACE WITH, UH, THE COSTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
AND IN SOME CASES, ALL OF THE COSTS WEREN'T IDENTIFIED.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
I REMEMBER YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE A PLAN IN ORDER TO KIND OF CAPTURE IT.
SO WITHOUT THAT PLAN, YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, I'M GONNA BUMP 'EM UP BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THEM ALLOCATED YET INTO PROJECTS.
AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD WITH MIKE AND HIS TEAM TO GET ALL THOSE DETAILS PUT TOGETHER.
SO, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, WE'VE, WE'VE PUT A, A PROGRAM IN PLACE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY, UM, SINGLE POINTS OF FAILURE IN OUR WATER SYSTEM.
AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS KIND OF EERIE AND KIND OF KIND OF GORISH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE IN.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THIS IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED SINGLE POINTS OF FAILURE.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF THIS SYSTEM GOES DOWN, THEN IT PUTS GREAT STRESS ON OUR, ON OUR WATER SYSTEM.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT RESULTS AFTER THAT? SO SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION KNOWN AS SCADA, IS WE IDENTIFIED THIS AS A SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE IN OUR SYSTEM.
THIS IS THE, THE REMOTE SYSTEM THAT WE CONTROL OUR ENTIRE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM FROM THIS.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S ANTIQUATED.
UM, IT'S FAILING ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THINK TO THANKS TO THE GREAT WORK OF THE, THE MEN AND WOMEN IN OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT, WE'RE ABLE TO HOLD IT TOGETHER.
AND, AND AS, AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY, UM, IT COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS EVERYTHING GOES INTO MANUAL OPERATION AND THAT PUTS A, A HUGE BIND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF OUR, OF OUR OPERATION.
AND THEN WE'RE GETTING FALSE REASON.
THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IN THE NEXT COUN, THE SECOND COUNCIL MEETING IN AUGUST, WE'RE GONNA BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS WORKING WITH THE WATER UTILITY STAFF TO CREATE AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT, UH, TO GET THE DESIGN UNDERWAY.
AND THAT'S ABOUT 10% OF THE ASK HERE.
THE ASK IS $2 MILLION TO REBUILD OUR, OUR, UH, SCADA SYSTEM, INCLUDING, UM, VIDEO SURVEILLANCE AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE YET.
SO THIS IS A VERY, THIS IS A CRITICAL PROJECT TO WATER UTILITIES.
SO, UM, BUT THIS IS, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS AS A POTENTIAL SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE.
I'M SORRY, DOES THIS INCLUDE CYBER SECURITY MEASURES? WELL, YEAH.
SO THAT WE WE'RE WORKING, UH, WITH MARCO ON ALL OF THAT STUFF.
SO YES, IT WILL, IT, I'M NOT SURE IF IT THE SCADA SYSTEM, BUT IT WILL, WE WILL HAVE THAT, UH, PROTECTION OF OUR SCADA SYSTEM.
SO, UM, YEAH, BECAUSE THAT IS, THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME.
IT'S A, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY KNOW IF WE GET A CYBER ATTACK ON ANY OF OUR CRITICAL SYSTEMS AND IT, IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANY CITY.
BE AN EMAIL NOT TOO LONG AGO ABOUT THAT VERY THING.
SO DEFINITELY WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
'CAUSE SHE'S MY BOSS, YOU KNOW.
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DO THAT.COUNCILOR HARRIS BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT I WAS GONNA MAKE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SCADA SYSTEM, I KNOW WE HAD, UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT, UH, SCADA, WE STARTED LOOKING AT CYBERSECURITY.
WHO HAD THE BEST CYBERSECURITY OUT THERE? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED A TEAM THAT JUST FOCUS ON CYBERSECURITY.
'CAUSE WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES, A LOT OF HOSPITALS, OTHER, UH, ENTITIES HOLD HELD FOR RANSOM.
RIGHT? THE RANSOMWARE IS REALLY BAD.
UH, SO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST, UH, CADA SECURITY THAT WE CAN GET IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME.
THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE'RE GOING WITH CDR, WE'RE GONNA GO A MI BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE REALLY HAVE PUSHED FOR IN THE LAST, UH, THREE YEARS IS A MI, MAYBE FOUR NOW GOING BY.
AND THE REASON A MI IS SO IMPORTANT IS THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT WATER CONSERVATION, UH, WHEN WE HAVE, UH, LEAKS THAT ARE GOING IDENTIFIED FOR A LONG TIME PERIOD OF TIME, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE PREVENTED WITH A MI.
SO I'M STILL GONNA BE A BIG PROPONENT OF A MI, I THINK IT'S THE BEST THING OUT THERE, UH, WHEN IT COMES, UH, I'VE SEEN IT IN ACTION.
I SAW, YOU KNOW, FREDERICKSBURG, WHICH IS A SMALLER MUNICIPALITY AND IT HAS A MI, THEY WERE ABLE TO, UH, DURING THE FREEZE, THEY WERE ABLE TO DETECT THEIR LEAKS AND GO FROM LARGER LEAKS TO SMALLER LEAKS, REALLY MAX MAXIMIZING THEIR STAFF IN A WAY TO NOT LOSE SO MUCH WATER.
UM, AND, UH, OUR STAFF DID REALLY GOOD.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE RELYING ON SITE OR CALLS, UH, FOR BROKEN LINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
A MI WOULD'VE IDENTIFIED ALL THAT OUR STAFF WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT IN A, A PLAN AND IDENTIF AND BEING ABLE TO ATTACK THE LEAKS FROM LARGER TO SMALLER LEAKS INSTEAD OF US BEING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO I WAS STILL A BIG PROPONENT OF A MII BELIEVE SCADA IS GREAT, BUT IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT SECURITY IN PLACE, SO JUST NO.
SO MY THOUGHTS WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT ONE COUNCILMAN.
UM, WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR A MI PLAN AS WE SPEAK.
WE'RE, WE'RE MEETING, UH, REGULARLY WITH, UH, OUR EXISTING CONTRACTOR THAT PROVIDES OUR WATER METERS TO US.
AND SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH A MI, WE'VE GOT A VERY AGGRESSIVE PLAN.
WE'VE GOT $2.9 MILLION IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND SO WE ARE DEFINITELY MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE ON THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT IS ANOTHER GOTTA GO PROJECT FOR US.
WE'RE GONNA HEAR THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
SO, UH, JUST TO JUMP IN, MIKE.
SO AS TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MAYOR PROTO RIZZO WAS SAYING, I WAS LISTENING TO REPORTS LIKE THE CITY OF MEXICO IS IN A WATER CRISIS, RIGHT? AND 40% OF THEIR WATERS LOST, UH, LEAKS IN THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, UM, I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE UP HERE AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WATER CONSERVATION AND I ASKED FOR HOW DO WE GET RESIDENTS, UH, WATER REPORTS SO THAT THEY CAN KNOW IF YOU COULD SAVE THIS MUCH WATER, WHAT THE CONSERVATION IMPACT WOULD BE.
AND I THINK YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW, SO, SO WE'RE, ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THAT IN IN YES.
IN ALL THIS THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING? YEAH, SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY WORKING ON THAT.
WE, WE HAVE A WATER WATCH MEETING, UH, ON A WEEKLY BASIS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WITH THE DEPUTY, THE TWO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER O OVER HERE.
AND SO YESTERDAY IT WAS A BIG EMPHASIS ON HOW WE GET THE MESSAGING OUT WITH RACHEL AND HER DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY'VE GOT A VERY AGGRESSIVE, AND I THINK A, A FIRST RATE PLAN THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING READY TO LAUNCH HERE WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE NEXT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF RACHEL IS STILL HERE.
YEAH, SO, SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO LAUNCH THAT QUICKLY AND IT'S GONNA, AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, A DASHBOARD, YOU KNOW, UH, EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT WATER UTILITIES, WE'RE GONNA PUT IN THAT.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE VERY STRONGLY WEIGHTED TOWARDS WATER CONSERVATION.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
SO OUR WATER CONSERVATION PLAN IS GONNA BE 365, 365 DAYS A YEAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT.
'CAUSE I THINK IF I MAY ADD UP TO THAT.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT WE COME UP WITH ON THAT.
SO, UH, QUICKLY ROUNDABOUT IN CORRIDOR BEAUTIFICATION, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.
AND, UM, SO THE, WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING A $1 MILLION PLACEHOLDER IN HERE TO DO FOCUS ON LAND THAT FOCUSES ON LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING AND BRANDING STRATEGIES FOR OUR ROUNDABOUTS AND CORRIDORS.
SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, THIS PROJECT.
JUST TO REEMPHASIZE MY EMPHASIS,
UM, AND I'M, I'M VERY AWARE THAT THE PEC HAS OFFERED, I DON'T KNOW TO US, BUT I KNOW TO OTHER CITIES, UH, FUNDS FOR STREET LIGHTING, THAT IS HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WANT US TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE USING THE MOST UPTODATE LIGHTING STANDARDS THAT MOST UPTODATE, UH,
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COLOR TONES OF LIGHTING, THE BRIGHT, BRIGHT WHITES, JUST DON'T CUT IT.UM, AND THAT WE, WE REALLY CARE ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF OUR RESIDENTS AS FAR AS LIGHTING'S CONCERNED.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, ON, ON SEVERAL PROJECTS IS, UH, IS ADHERING TO THE DARK SKY, UM, EFFORT.
AND WE'RE, WE'LL DEFINITELY WE'LL DO THAT ON THIS PROJECT OR UPCOMING PROJECTS TOO.
THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING WE LOOK AT.
OH, THIS IS TO, YEAH, IF I COULD, I, THIS IS JUST TO TRY TO PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR, UH, THE BRANDING AND BEAUTIFICATION PROGRAM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS.
WE TALKED, UH, COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES PRESENTED, UM, A MEETING OR TWO AGO ABOUT THE CONCEPTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
SO THIS WILL PROVIDE SOME FUNDING.
UM, IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A PLACEHOLDER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DESIGN, SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
BUT I KNOW LIGHTING ON SEVERAL CORNERS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS AND I HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, DACY LANE AND SOME OTHER AREAS.
AND SO, UH, BUT WE WANNA BE SENSITIVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THOSE THINGS WITH THE DARK SKIES.
AND I THINK ANY TIME, ANY TYPE PROP, ANY TYPE OF PROJECT WE'RE GONNA BRING FORWARD IS GONNA BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
THAT'S PERFECT TIMING, BECAUSE I'VE GOT AN EMAIL THAT I'M GONNA BE SENDING YOU AND TO YOU MAYOR PRO TEM, ON THE SAME THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE THERE ARE LIGHTING FIXTURES OUT THERE THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE RESEARCHED AND LOOKED AT THAT GO BY THIS DARK SKY INITIATIVE.
WE MIGHT BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL SOON TO LOOK AT.
AND I, AND I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE ROUNDABOUTS A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW, UH, WE HAD THAT PRESENTATION, I WAS REALLY ADAMANT ABOUT NOT, UH, SPENDING MONEY, EXTRA MONEY TO, UH, LIGHT UP ROUNDABOUTS.
AND MY RECENT TRIP TO CAR INDIANA TAUGHT ME, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD LEARNING TRIP FOR ME BECAUSE I LEARNED MORE ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS, LEARNED ABOUT THE SAFETY.
UH, HONESTLY, IT WAS, IT, IT WAS VERY, UH, HAD A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I, I'M, I'M ABLE TO BRING BACK NOW AND MAKE A BETTER, UH, DECISION WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
AND I KNOW THE IMPORTANCE NOW OF LIGHTING THOSE ROUNDABOUTS.
UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T TAKE ANY SHORTCUTS WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHTING UP THESE ROUNDABOUTS 'CAUSE OF THE SAFETY, UH, ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
UH, DURING MY TRIP TO CARMO INDIANA, ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO WANNA DO IS JUST MAN REASSURE PEOPLE THAT THESE ROUNDABOUTS SAFE LIVES.
I, I MEAN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT CAR INDIANA WAS GIVING US, I MEAN, UH, THEIR FATALITIES AND SERIOUS ACCIDENTS, IT WENT WAY DOWN.
I MEAN, FROM HUNDREDS TO ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE MM-HMM.
IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE LOOKING AT THEIR NUMBERS.
REAL DATA WAS VERY, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? UH,
I MEAN, YEAH, IT WAS VERY CONVINCING.
SO WHEN I, WHEN I SPOKE LAST TIME, I WAS LIKE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO LIGHT THESE THINGS UP.
I'M LIKE, FOR THE SAFETY AND FOR THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS, LET'S LIGHT 'EM UP.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE REALLY GOOD ROUNDABOUTS AND THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING, YOU CAN SEE THEM WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN A DARK ROAD.
AND THAT WE KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
I, I HAD A CHANGE OF HEART ON MY LAST STATEMENT.
SO, ROADWAY AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS TOO.
SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, FOUR, UM, MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND, UM, ROADWAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY STUDYING.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE LISTED HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE ESTIMATED TO ADDRESS EACH ONE OF THESE.
BUT THESE ARE STILL IN THE PLAN OR THE REVIEW STUDY AND THEN HOPEFULLY DESIGN PHASE OF THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS A VERY AGGRESSIVE, UH, PROGRAM.
THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE ROAD BOND PROJECT.
AND THIS IS THE, THE CLO ONE OF THE CLOSING SLIDES HERE.
SO, UM, FOR FI UH, FISCAL YEAR 25, WE'RE LOOKING AT $131 MILLION.
UM, AND, AND, UM, LIKE MANY OF THESE PROJECTS, THIS IS NOT JUST WATER UTILITIES, BUT THIS IS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM OF CIP PROJECTS.
UM, AND, UH, ROADS, WATER WASTEWATER, RECLAIMED WATER DRAINAGE AND, AND OTHERS THINGS THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE.
AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, A GROWING CITY WHERE THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, CLOSE TO A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS ON PROJECTS.
AND SO THAT, THAT TAKES OUR, UM, WORKLOAD TO 57 PRO ACTIVE, OUR WOULD BE 57 ACTIVE PROJECTS.
THIS IS, THIS IS A SIGN OF A GROWING CITY.
AND SO, UM, GOOD FOR, GOOD FOR EVERYBODY HERE.
UM, AND SO CLOSING, I'M GOING TO KIND OF GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO PERVEZ, BUT, UM, SO FEBRUARY 26TH, UM, COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTRACT WITH REF TILLIS, UH, TO DO, UH, FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS TO CONDUCT A COST SERVICE AND RATE STUDY FOR THE CITY'S WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITIES.
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AND, UM, SO IT'S ABOUT 75% COMPLETE.UH, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR WILL BE BRINGING THIS TO YOU ON AUGUST THE SIXTH TO DISCUSS AND HAVE CONSIDERATION FOR DECISIONS ON RATE OPTIONS.
AND, UM, JUST, JUST TO BE PREPARED, THERE WILL BE RATE INCREASES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.
AND SO, UM, IF I COULD JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO, UH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JUST ONE MINUTE.
I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE, THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORKED ON THIS BUDGET TO TAKE IT FROM 80 SLIDES AND, AND GET IT DOWN TO THIS PRESENTATION OF 26 SLIDES.
SO, TIM SANFORD, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER WATER UTILITIES.
CHRIS ARNOLD, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER PUBLIC WORKS, LEON BARBARA, EVERYBODY KNOWS HIM, CITY ENGINEER.
AND THEN, UH, SCOTT, ER, THERE HE IS, UH, HE'S OUR MANAGER OVER, UH, UH, DIVISION MANAGER OVER STREETS.
AND THEN, UM, THE PERSON WHO PULLED ALL THIS TOGETHER AND, AND ALSO THE CITY MANAGER AND AMBER FOR, FOR DIRECTING US.
'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS MY FIRST BUDGET HERE FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, AND I'M JUST ENJOYING THE HECK OUT OF IT.
AND, UM, THIS IS MY STAFF'S FIRST BUDGET.
SO, UM, WE, WE, UH, WE NEEDED A LOT OF HELP, BUT, UH, THE PERSON WHO SORT OF PULLED ALL THIS TOGETHER, I THINK AMBER CALLED IT HERDING CATS, IS LOUANNE.
SHE'S, SHE'S THE BRAINS BEHIND ALL OF THIS, PULLING ALL THIS TOGETHER AND KEEPING US IN LINE.
SO THAT'S IT, THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.
WELL, I, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK MIKE TOO.
UM, THIS IS, UH, A HERCULEAN TASK TO PULL TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, VERY COMPLEX SERIES OF PROJECTS AND BUDGETS AND TO TAKE A VERY ANALYTICAL AND STRATEGIC FOCUS ON ALL THESE OPERATIONS AND GIVE US, UH, AN IDEA OF WHERE WE NEED TO GO FOR THE FUTURE.
AND, AND, AND HE IS ONLY BEEN HERE, IT FEELS LIKE A LONG TIME, BUT IT'S JUST A FEW MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS.
SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO COME IN AND HAVE TO PRESENT A BUDGET LIKE THIS WITH JUST A FEW MONTHS OF EXPERIENCE HERE.
AND, UH, I JUST WANNA COMMEND MIKE AND HIS TEAM.
I, I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO ANALYZE ALL THESE ISSUES.
IT'S A VERY SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER, PROBABLY LARGER THAN ANYTHING THE COUNCIL'S SEEN BEFORE OUTTA THESE OPERATIONS.
BUT WE THINK IT'S, IT'S ABSOLUTELY NEEDED FOR A GROWING LARGE, UM, COMPLICATED CITY WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPERATIONS.
AND, UH, THIS POSITIONS US WELL IN THE FUTURE.
AND THE OTHER PART ABOUT THIS IS THIS ALL INFORMATION JUST ON PAGES.
IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT WE GOTTA GET THESE THINGS DONE.
AND THAT'S THE OTHER PART SIDE OF THIS IS TRANSITIONING SO THAT WE'RE READY TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT AND CONSTRUCT EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS.
SO MIKE'S DONE A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, FOR ME SEEING THIS, AND I THINK FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL, IT SHOWS THAT THE CITY'S PUTTING A REALLY BIG FOCUS AND EMPHASIS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE'RE GIVING A, WE'RE PUTTING A TRUE COMMITMENT INTO OUR CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT'S ROADS, WATER, I MEAN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS SEE.
WE SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE HAVE ALL THESE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GET EMAILS ON IT AND WE GET QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, I WAS AT MARKET DAYS AND I GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR WATER.
AND TO SEE THE CITY PUT IN A COMMITMENT LIKE THIS, I THINK WOULD REALLY HELP THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THAT WE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND THAT WE'VE GOT GREAT STAFF WORKING ON IT.
AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
UH, THIS DOESN'T COME FORWARD WITHOUT STAFF.
WE TAKE THE VOTES UP HERE, BUT STAFF PUTS IN THE WORK.
AND I JUST WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR PUTTING THE WORK IN THIS.
UH, I LOOK AT THIS AND I'M LIKE, WOW, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY, AS A CITY GONNA COMMIT TO DOING SOME MAJOR PROJECTS AND BRINGING SOME GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT FUNDING AS WE GROW, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT BURDEN, YOU KNOW, SPREADS OUT OVER MORE, UH, RESIDENTS KEEPING IT THE COST AS LOW AS WE CAN ON THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE RIGHT NOW.
SO AS WE GROW WITH THE CITY, AS MORE PEOPLE MOVE IN, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE ON SOME OF THAT BURDEN AND WE TAKE, ALLEVIATE THE BURDEN ON PEOPLE.
UM, INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY PAYING A BIG NUMBER, EVERYBODY WILL PAY THEIR SHARE, BUT IT WON'T BE AS HIGH AS, YOU KNOW, PROTECTED.
ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, ARE THIS, BESIDES BEING AS A BACKUP MATERIAL, UM, AS AN AGENDA ITEM, ARE THESE PRESENTATIONS POSTED ANYWHERE ON THE WEBSITE? BECAUSE I LOVE MM-HMM.
SO I LOVE THE ORG CHART THAT YOU'RE PUT IN HERE.
I THINK IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE IT.
UM, AND THE PRESENTATION MAKES IT EASIER FOR US WHEN, YOU KNOW, BUDGET COMES TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE THINGS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A, I THINK WATER UTILITIES IS GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN WEBSITE PRETTY SOON, AT SOME POINT.
UM, MAKE THINGS EASIER, I HOPE
I I JUST THINK IT SHOULD BE UP.
AND I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL DO IS, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE A BUDGET PAGE THAT HAS OUR CALENDAR AND A LOT OF THE, THIS IS ONE OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW
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MONTHS.AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT ADDING ALL OF THOSE SLIDE DECKS OUT THERE.
ARE THEY ALREADY THERE? THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ALL THE VIDEOS AFTER ALL THE
SO WE'VE GOT AN FY 25 PAGE THAT HAS ALL THAT ON THERE.
I COULDN'T RECALL IF WE HAD THAT.
SO IT SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION.
AND IT'S A NUMBER OF THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, WHETHER IT'S BEEN FLEET OR FACILITIES OR, OR, OR, UH, COMPENSATION, WHATNOT.
AND JUST TO BRIEFLY ADD TO WHAT SHE'S SAYING, WE GET EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS.
THEY'RE ALWAYS SENDING US, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THE WATER? YOU GOT ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THROUGH, HOW ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR IT? A LITTLE BIT OF A WEBSITE TO LINK THAT.
WE COULD JUST BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE EMAIL TO THE RESIDENT AND HAVE A LINK TO FOLLOW A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU LISTED HERE SO THEY CAN GO AT THEIR LEISURE TIME ON THAT END.
IT KIND OF HELPED US ON THAT END, WHENEVER, 'CAUSE LIKE MAYOR PUTIN SAYS HE'S AT A, HE'S AT AN EVENT, HE'S ASKING ABOUT THE WATER.
I'VE GOT THREE EMAILS COMING BACK FROM COLORADO ABOUT THE WATER ISSUES, HOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S Y'ALL'S PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND SO FORTH.
HAVING SOMETHING TO WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A LINK THAT WE CAN DIRECT THEM TO, OR JUST THE SLIDES TO WHERE THEY COULD BE ABLE TO GO FROM THERE.
AND WE COULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FROM THERE.
AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THIS.
NO ONE IS, UH, AMBER'S BEEN LOOKING, LOOKING FORWARD TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION, SO LET'S GET IT OVER WITH.
I'M DYING TO PRESENT THIS TO, TO CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE ITEM UP.
DO YOU HAVE 80 SLIDES? I DO NOT HAVE ANY SLIDES.
UM, BUT IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO FOLLOW IN, UM, MIKE'S SHOES.
'CAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS INCREDIBLE.
[22) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding City's Facilities Master Plan.]
I FORGOT TO CALL UP THE ITEM.UH, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION, UH, REGARDING CITY FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, PRESENTER, AMM.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO, MAYOR PROTO AND COUNCIL.
AMBER SM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT FACILITIES MASTER PLANNING.
UH, HERE'S A SUMMARY OF OUR FACILITIES.
UH, WE'VE GOT THEM MAPPED OUT FOR YOU SO YOU CAN SEE THEM.
UH, WE HAVE 10 FACILITIES TO HOUSE STAFF.
WE ALSO HAVE THE CREEK CENTER, BUT IT DOESN'T HAS HOUSE ANY STAFF.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 397 STAFF AUTHORIZED.
AND THE FIVE YEAR PROJECTED GROWTH WILL BRING THE TOTAL NUMBER TO ABOUT 552.
AND THIS IS STILL PENDING, UM, THE STAFFING STUDY THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS UN UNDERGOING.
UM, THE NATIONAL AVERAGE OF OFFICE SPACE PER STAFF IS 175 SQUARE FEET CURRENTLY ON AVERAGE.
UM, THE OFFICE SPACE THAT WE PROVIDE PER STAFF IS 84 SQUARE FEET.
IF YOU TAKE OUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, IT'S ACTUALLY ONLY 66 SQUARE FEET.
HERE'S A GRAPH THAT SHOWS THE PROJECTED, UH, STAFF GROWTH BY YEAR.
UM, WE ALSO COMPARED IT TO OUR POPULATION.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR IT'S 10%, UM, 7%, 6%, 6%.
UM, AND WE ASSUME A POPULATION GROWTH AT OUR RATE OF 8% PER YEAR.
SO WE ASKED ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO PROVIDE A, A FIVE YEAR PROJECTION ON WHAT THEY EXPECTED THEIR STAFF TO GROW OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND THIS IS WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU, UM, PICTURES AND INFORMATION ABOUT EACH OF OUR FACILITIES.
UM, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ABOUT 17,000.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, 54, UM, EMPLOYEES WHO WORK HERE.
ABOUT FOUR OF THOSE WORK FROM HOME.
AND THEN NINE OF THOSE ARE FIELD STAFF.
UM, FIVE RESTROOMS. OF COURSE, WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENT SPACES HERE.
WE HAVE CONFERENCE ROOM, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE COUNCIL AREA.
WE, WE BROKE IT ALL DOWN BY COMMON AREA.
I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO ALL OF THAT.
BUT, UM, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE STATS ON CITY HALL PUBLIC LIBRARY.
WE HAVE 13 STAFF MEMBERS WHO, UM, ALL WORK IN THE OFFICE OVER THERE.
OF COURSE, THEY HAVE THE LIBRARY SPACE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT WE TRIED TO BREAK IT DOWN BY OFFICE SPACE, SO WE COULD GIVE YOU A GOOD COMPARISON OF WHAT THOSE ALL LOOK LIKE.
UM, THIS IS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
IT'S GOT 2,500 SQUARE FEET AND WE HAVE 17 STAFF WHO WORK OUT OF THERE.
UM, ALL, ALL WORKING IN THE OFFICE.
UM, THIS IS OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, 4,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE OFFICE WORKING AREA, WE HAVE
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709 SQUARE FEET OF WORKING, UM, OFFICE AREA.WE HAVE SEVEN IN STAFF, UM, IN OFFICE STAFF THERE.
JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THAT.
UM, IT CURRENTLY HOUSES, NO, NO CITY STAFF.
UM, BUT IT HOUSES THE SENIOR ZONES ACTIVITIES.
UM, THE PARK MAINTENANCE SHOP IS 3,700 SQUARE FEET.
UM, OFFICE WORKING AREA IS 370 SQUARE FEET.
UM, WE HAVE 37 FIELD STAFF WORKING OUT OF THERE.
AND WOULD WE GIVE, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THIS, UM, COMPARISON.
WE, WE TOOK ABOUT 25% OF THE TIME THAT A FIELD STAFF WOULD BE WORKING IN THE OFFICE WOULD NEED OFFICE SPACE.
UH, PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING A IS THE PRIMARY BUILDING.
UM, 650 OF THAT IS THE OFFICE AREA.
WE HAVE 12 THAT ARE IN THE OFFICE.
AND THEN NINE FIELD STAFF OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING.
THIS IS PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING B.
IT HAS 487, UM, OFFICE SQUARE FEET, 9 90, 800, UH, SQUARE FEET TOTAL.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT FIVE IN THE OFFICE.
THIS IS OUR TREATMENT OPERATIONS BUILDING.
ALSO ON THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, FACILITY LAND, IT HAS 870 SQUARE FEET.
UM, 800 OF THAT IS AN OFFICE WORKING AREA.
WE HAVE 11 FOLKS IN THAT OFFICE.
UM, THIS IS OUR PUBLIC WORKS INSPECTOR'S OFFICE.
UH, USED TO BE THE OLD IT DEPARTMENT.
UM, IT HAS 655 SQUARE FEET, 630 OF THAT IS OFFICE AND FIVE PEOPLE WORK THERE.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, IT'S OBVIOUSLY BRAND NEW AND WAS DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY.
WE'VE GOT 67,000 SQUARE FEET THERE.
UM, 18,000, ALMOST 19,000 OFFICE, UH, WORKING AREA, UM, 30, OR SORRY, 59 WHO WORK IN THE OFFICE THERE.
WE HAVE 75 FIELD STAFF OFFICE WITH THEIR OFFICERS WHO WORK OVER THERE.
UM, WE HAVE 19 RESTROOMS AND SIX STALLS AND LOCKER ROOMS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A GOOD BENEFIT TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO HERE'S JUST SOME PICTURES OF SOME WORKING CONDITIONS THAT OUR FOLKS ARE IN.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT DESKS AND DESKS AND DESKS AND PEOPLE ON TOP OF PEOPLE.
UM, YOU CAN JUST SEE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE PICTURE ON THE LOWER RIGHT, THAT'S OUR ENGINEERING OFFICE.
I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY CAN PULL A CHAIR OUT TO PASS EACH OTHER TO GET OUT OUT OF THEIR DESK.
SO THEY, THEY, UM, WORK FROM HOME SOMETIMES SO THEY CAN DESK SHARE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT, UM, THEY'RE WORKING IN HERE.
PUBLIC LIBRARY, UM, NEEDS, NEEDS MORE STORAGE AREA.
UM, THIS IS A SHARED, YOU KNOW, JUST SHARED WORKING AREA.
UM, THIS IS PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AT LAKE, LAKE KYLE.
UM, I BELIEVE IN THE LEFT HAND PICTURE THERE ARE THREE WORKING DESKS IN THAT PICTURE.
UM, YOU CAN JUST SEE BOXES, FILE CABINETS, DESKS, UM, REALLY NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
SOMEONE'S NOT EVEN AT AN APPROPRIATE DESK THERE.
UM, AND THEN TO THE RIGHT, YOU SEE WE HAVE OUR HALLWAYS ARE CLUTTERED WITH STORAGE.
I MEAN, AGAIN, YOU CAN JUST SEE, UM, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.
THIS IS THE LEFT IS OUR, UM, OUR, I JUST LOST THE WORD FOR IT.
UH, WHERE WE ANALYZE CHEMICALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN, UM, ON THE RIGHT FOR THE WATER TESTING LABS.
AND THEN, UM, IN THE MIDDLE, UH, OR IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER, YOU CAN JUST SEE THAT WE'RE STILL, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE.
UM, WE'VE GOT FILE CABINETS OUT IN THE MIDDLE.
WE'VE, WE'VE GOT SOME STORAGE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT SHOULD BE A LOBBY AREA.
UM, HERE'S OUR OFFICE WORKING AREA AT THE TREATMENT PLANTS.
AGAIN, MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN THE SAME OFFICE.
HERE'S THE KRUG CENTER, JUST IN CASE Y'ALL HAVEN'T BEEN IN THERE, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC GOT TO SEE THIS.
THIS IS OUR PARK MAINTENANCE SHOP.
UM, THIS IS WHERE THEY WORK, EAT, TAKE A BREAK, DO EVERYTHING, UM, STORE THINGS.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR MAINTENANCE SHOP.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW CROWDED IS WITH OUR EQUIPMENT AND, UM, MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR OUR TECHS TO DO THEIR JOB EFFICIENTLY.
THIS IS PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING A, UM, AGAIN, PEOPLE, MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN THE SAME OFFICE, LACK OF STORAGE.
UM, WE'VE GOT WORKSTATIONS AND HALLWAYS HERE.
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B WHERE WE HOUSE MOST OF THE FIELD STAFF.AGAIN, MULTIPLE OFFICE SHARING STORAGE ISSUES.
THIS IS WHERE THEY TAKE BREAKS, WORK, EAT, THEY DO EVERYTHING ALL IN THIS SMALL SPACE.
UM, THIS IS THE PUBLIC WORKS INSPECTOR'S OFFICE.
YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A WINDOW AIR CONDITIONING UNIT THERE.
UM, PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, OBVIOUSLY NEWEST FACILITIES.
I ALSO WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT.
WE ARE TRYING TO PURSUE OTHER PROPERTY.
UM, AND THE 1500 DACY LANE PROPERTY, UM, COULD, COULD PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF OUR RECREATION NEEDS.
SO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, LIKE I SAID, IS 175 SQUARE FEET.
WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AT 244 SQUARE FEET FOR AN OFFICE.
UM, SO THE SOLID LINE IS THE 175 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE DOTS BELOW THAT, SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THAT SHOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OFFICE SPACE FOR OUR, UM, EMPLOYEES.
AND I ADDED THIS LITTLE DOTTED LINE IN HERE.
THIS IS A MINIMUM OFFICE SIZE AROUND 70 SQUARE FEET OF WHAT YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU WOULD CONSIDER SUITABLE FOR CALL CENTER TYPE ENVIRONMENT.
AND YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF OUR FACILITIES ARE BELOW EVEN A CALL CENTER.
UM, EVEN IF WE DIDN'T WANNA LOOK AT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
SO HERE'S OUR OFFICE SPACE NEEDS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR PROJECTED GROWTH WITH OUR STAFF AND, UM, HOW, IF WE GREW AT THE PROJECTED PERCENTAGE WITH OUR STAFF NUMBER, HOW THAT COMPARES TO HOW OUR SQUARE FOOTAGE SHOULD GROW IF WE BASE IT ON THE NATIONAL AVERAGE SPACE.
SO TODAY WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE 69,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE.
AND THEN WE WOULD GROW ALL THE WAY TO 96,000.
YOU KNOW, AS WE GREW WITH OUR EMPLOYEES TODAY, WE ONLY HAVE 29,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE.
SO LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING TO OUR STAFF.
SO THE KEY TAKEAWAYS I THINK FOR, FOR YOU ALL FROM THIS IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH OFFICE SPACE TO HOUSE STAFF.
UM, THE PROJECTED FIVE YEAR GROWTH OF STAFF WILL EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM.
UM, SO WE NEED TO ACTIVELY EXPLORE OPTIONS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE.
UM, A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT WAS THE $5 MILLION FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION FOR, UM, THE KYLE WATER UTILITIES OFFICE, SPACE RELATED OPERATIONS, AND THEN FLEET AND FUEL.
UM, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, LEASING PORTABLE TRAILERS FOR INTERIM OFFICE SPACE, UM, FOR WATER, UTILITIES, PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS AND REC.
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE POTENTIAL TO PURCHASE SPACE TO HOUSE THE SENIOR ACTIVITIES.
AND THEN THE CREW CENTER COULD POSSIBLY BE REPURPOSED AND REIMAGINED FOR DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SPACE.
BUT WE, ANY KIND OF DIFFERENT SPACE? WELL, WE, IT IS A POSSIBILITY.
GOT, WE'VE GOT THE UPSTAIRS, THE UPSTAIRS COULD BE AN OFFICE.
AND WE, WE, WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT.
THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA THINK ABOUT.
NO, I THINK THAT THE CROOK CENTER NEEDS TO BE, UH, CONSIDERED ALSO FOR THE COMMUNITY FIRST AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S A NEED THERE TOO.
THE BOTTOM, BUT THE TOP COULD BE OFFICE.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T ALLOW PEOPLE ON THE SECOND STORY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AN ELEVATOR.
SO, SO I, I DON'T WANT US TO GET HUNG UP ON THE CRUISE SITTER.
IT'S A FACILITY THAT WE OWN THAT COULD BE REIMAGINED.
SO, SO BASICALLY WE WOULD, WE NEED A SOLUTION IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY.
UM, AND SO WE BELIEVE OUR NEXT STEPS IS A, TO, TO UNDERGO A PROFESSIONAL FACILITY MASTER PLAN.
THIS WAS JUST A HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATE, UH, DONE BY STAFF, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
WE WOULD HAVE A SPATIAL NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THEY WOULD DEVELOP A PROJECTION OF FUTURE SPACE NEEDS, ASSUMING A 20 YEAR HORIZON.
IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO OPTIMIZE OUR CURRENT SPACE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR CITY HALL? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE LIBRARY? ALL, ALL, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND THEN ADDRESS OUR ENTIRE OPERATION, INCLUDING STORAGE ROOMS, WHICH WE REALLY DIDN'T GET INTO TONIGHT.
AND CONFERENCE ROOMS, PARKING SPACE, YOU KNOW, RESTROOMS, ADMINISTRATIVE USES.
UM, AND THEN ALL OF THOSE ANCILLARY USES THAT GO ALONG WITH OPERATING THE CITY.
AND THEN, UM, WE SHOULD CONSIDER A NEW FACILITY, UH, IN THE MASTER PLAN.
WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT NEW FACILITIES, A RENOVATION AND OR ADDITION TO EXISTING BUILDINGS, UM, JUST TO IMPROVE OUR EFFICIENCY AND WORK PERFORMANCE.
AND THAT'S ALL JUST TO, I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, UM, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS ISSUE TO YOUR ATTENTION AND, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE PUT SOME FUNDS IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET TO START ADDRESSING THIS.
AND AS WE START LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY CITY HALL AND DOWNTOWN OFFICE SPACE, WE
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FEEL LIKE THIS STUDY WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO FIGURE OUT, WELL WHAT SHOULD WE BUILD? HOW BIG SHOULD IT BE? WHAT'S THE TIME HORIZON? WE WANT TO LOOK AT PARKING, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT KIND OF GO WITH IT.WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF GIVE A MORE COMPLETE ANSWER ON THAT.
BUT THERE ARE SOME OPERATIONS THAT WILL REQUIRE IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
AND PARKS IS PROBABLY MY HIGHEST PRIORITY OF LOOKING AT THAT FACILITY.
IT'S ABYSMAL AND WE JUST SIMPLY CAN'T GET THE KIND OF SERVICES THAT WE'RE GONNA WANT TO HAVE AT OUR PARK PARKS OPERATION WITH THAT KIND OF FACILITY.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO YOU VERY QUICKLY.
I KNOW MIKE'S OPERATION, HE'S GOT A LOT OF VERY TECHNICAL KINDS OF POSITIONS, UH, 28 STAFF MEMBERS THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT BRINGING UP IN THIS NEXT BUDGET.
WE GOTTA HAVE A PLACE FOR HIM.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS AS WE LOOK FOR THAT LONGER TERM.
BUT WE WANTED TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF YOU SO YOU COULD SEE IT.
I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT HOPELESS.
WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF SOLUTIONS FOR THIS, BUT IT DOES TAKE TIME TO GET THOSE DEVELOPED.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
WE'RE GONNA BE TRANSITIONING SOME EMPLOYEES FROM CITY HALL TO THAT FACILITY TO MORE MAXIMIZE THAT SPACE.
THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE OFFICE SPACE AND FOR CITY EMPLOYEES, NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT FOR CITY EMPLOYEES, THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATION SPACE, THERE'S MORE OFFICE SPACE THERE THAN THERE IS IN CITY HALL.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE TRANSITIONING SOME EMPLOYEES OVER THERE, FREEING UP SOME SPACE HERE BACK AT CITY HALL AND, AND CONTINUING TO TRY TO MANAGE ALL THAT AS WE GROW.
YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY GROWING.
UH, I KNOW THAT THE CITY TOOK A SMALLER PORTION, UH, ONCE WE BROUGHT THE, UH, DISPATCH BACK.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE ORIGINAL ALLOCATION WAS.
UH, UH, 14% OF THE BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WHEN WE BROUGHT BACK THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, DISPATCH, WE CUT INTO THAT PORTION AS WELL.
SO I KNOW WE'RE LIMITING OUT THERE AS WELL.
BUT, UM, YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEED TO ADDRESS PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE, UM, WE GO TO PARKS AND REC.
I MEAN, IT'S, I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE CRAWLING OVER EACH OTHER AND I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST ALL OUR FACILITIES, RIGHT? SO YES, SIR.
YEAH, I'M, I'M, I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD, AMBER, AND YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE A DEEP DIVE IN AND OUR LOOK AND REALLY GET GOING ON.
IT, THAT'S A GOTTA GO PROJECT.
WE'RE GONNA KEEP, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT.
WE'RE GETTING SOME T-SHIRTS MADE.
COULD WE LOOK AT, LIKE WE DID WITH THE 1500 AC TO REALLY START LOOKING AT SOME OF THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE BUILT NOW THAT ARE FOR LEASE AROUND, WHETHER IT'S IN THE TARGET AREA OR LIKE ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.
I KNOW THERE'S A BIG, UM, THE RV PARK THAT USED TO BE THERE IS NOW EMPTY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE, HUGE SPACE.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS LIKE WE DID WITH 1500, LOOKING AT EXISTING BUILDINGS NOW AND SAYING, HEY, LOOK, IT, COULD WE GET A, A ONE TWO YEAR LEASE, GET PEOPLE MOVED IN QUICKLY ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO LAKE KYLE, UH, FINISHING OFF THE REST OF THE PARKING LOT ALL THE WAY DOWN, OR MAYBE EXPANDING IT OUT, JUST DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
BUT I THINK AS I DRIVE AROUND THE CITY, I KNOW I SEE SOME LITTLE SMALL SECTIONS OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT, THAT ARE FOR LEASE OR THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S AN OFFICE SPACE OR WHATEVER, EVEN IF IT'S JUST MAYBE MOVING A SPECIFIC SECTION OF THE CITY INTO SOME OF THOSE AREAS COULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT SPACE THAT'S, THAT'S NEEDED.
I KNOW WE ALL WANNA BE CENTRALIZED.
I KNOW IT'S NICE TO HAVE EVERYBODY CLOSE TO US.
UM, BUT IF WE HAVE TO SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE THAT'S THE OPTION THAT WE HAVE TO, TO LOOK AT.
AND YOU NEVER KNOW, THE BUSINESS NEXT TO 'EM EVENTUALLY WILL MOVE ON AND THEN WE CAN ACQUIRE THAT.
AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK AT FOR THE IMMEDIATE SOLUTION.
WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE.
UM, WE'RE ALWAYS ON THE LOOK FOR SOME OTHER PROPERTIES.
I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THERE'S VERY LITTLE OFFICE SPACE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY OF KYLE THAT'S VACANT.
JUST I'VE BEEN LOOKING SO, UM, YEAH, ALMOST NONE.
SO I, AND I, I THINK, UH, WE'RE ROLLING.
WE'LL LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.
I, I THINK, UM, ONE THING I I WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF IS, UH, SOMETIME YOU SEE THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN BUILT AND ADDED ONTO AD HOC WITH DIFFERENT THINGS.
THEY SEEM AT THE TIME TO BE CHEAPER ALTERNATIVES THAN BUILDING YOUR OWN BUILDING OR INVESTING IN SOMETHING.
BUT OVER TIME, I BELIEVE THEY COST YOU A LOT MORE BY DOING THAT.
UM, SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KIND OF WEIGH INTO.
IF THERE'S A GOOD FACILITY THAT'S A GOOD SIZE, IT MAKES SENSE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
UM, BUT WE WANT TO THINK LONG TERM, WHAT DO WE NEED THAT FIVE OR 10 YEARS? AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S CERTAINLY CONSTRUCTION.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT NEVER SEEMS TO GO DOWN.
SO THE SOONER YOU CAN BUILD IT, THE THE CHEAPER IT SEEMS TO BE.
THAT'S ALL WE HAD FOR YOU ON THAT.
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ALL RIGHT.ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.