Aug 26, 2025 Planning and Zoning Meeting

[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]

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AUGUST 26TH AND THE TIME IS 6:30 P.M. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COPELAND HERE. WEBB HERE. STEAGALL, HERE. HERE. HERE. HERE. HERE. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[II) Approval of Minutes]

CAN I GET A MOTION ON THOSE? I MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES ON JULY 22ND, 2025. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM COMMISSIONER SERRATO AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WEBB. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY I. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. OKAY. MINUTES ARE APPROVED. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF REGULAR MEETINGS. SPEAKERS ARE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS, AND THEY MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. SO I WILL OPEN CITIZEN COMMENTS NOW. OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP ROLLING. CONSIDER APPROVAL

[2) Consider approval of an amendment to a previously approved Conditional Use Permit regarding Building Elevation modifications for a retail development, in accordance with section 53-892 "Districts and boundaries," subsections (a)(7) "The Goforth Road conditional use overlay district," for property located at 1050 Bunton Creek Road. (CUP-25-0131)]

GOOD EVENING, KAYLA SHARP, SENIOR PLANNER. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR YOU. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN ONES YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. THIS WILL BE A REVISION TO A PREVIOUS CUP. THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, AND THEY DID NOT USE THE BUILDING MATERIALS THAT WERE APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS CUP. SO THEY ARE ASKING TO AMEND THAT. SO AS I SAID, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A REVISION TO PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLANS FOR A PROPERTY IN THE GOFORTH ROAD OVERLAY. JUST TO KIND OF FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH THE AREA. THIS IS KIND OF ON BUTTON CREEK ROAD BETWEEN PHILOMENA AND DAISY. THE APPROVED MATERIALS CONSISTED PRIMARILY OF STONE VENEER AND STUCCO, AND THE REQUESTED MATERIALS CONSIST OF STUCCO, A WOOD LOOK, FIBER CEMENT PANELING, AND BRICK. SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. THE ORIGINAL CUP WAS APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER 2023, AND CONSTRUCTION STARTED SHORTLY AFTER. DURING THE FINAL SITE INSPECTION BACK IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, IT WAS DISCOVERED THE BUILDING MATERIALS WERE CHANGED DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THE MATERIALS AND COLORS DID NOT MATCH WHAT WAS APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A LETTER OUTLINING THE REASONS FOR THE CHANGE, WHICH INCLUDED COST CONSTRAINTS RELATED TO THE HIGHER COST OF THE APPROVED MATERIALS AND A DESIRE TO BETTER ALIGN WITH THE ESTHETICS OF NEWER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA. SO HERE ARE THE APPROVED RENDERINGS. THE GRAY IS, I BELIEVE, THE STONE AND THEN OR THE DARKER GRAY I SHOULD SAY IS THE STONE. AND THEN THE LIGHTER GRAY IS THE STUCCO. THE BROWNISH COLOR WAS LIKE METAL TUBING. AND THEN THOSE DRAWINGS. AND THEN HERE IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED. SO THE DARKER BROWN IS THAT WOULD LOOK FIBRO CEMENT PANELING AND THEN STUCCO. AND THEN THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE BUILDING IS KIND OF HARD TO TELL IN THIS IMAGE IS BRICK. AND THOSE COLORED RENDERINGS. AND THEN HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING. SO THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD SOME OF THE KIND OF METAL TUBING BACK, TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL TO THE FRONT FACADE. THAT WOULD ALSO KIND OF SERVE AS A PLACE FOR, FOR SIGNAGE TO BE LOCATED.

SO THE BUILDING IS FULLY CONSTRUCTED AND THE GOFORTH ROAD OVERLAY DOES NOT HAVE SPECIFIC BUILDING MATERIAL OR ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS. SO STAFF IS GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THESE REVISIONS. IN ADDITION TO THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL TO ADD THE METAL TUBING BACK TO THE FRONT FACADE, WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING MODIFYING THE STUCCO JUST THE COLOR OF THE

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CORRECT. I DON'T EXPECT THAT YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF THAT, BUT WHY WOULD WE HAVE AN OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT HAS NO PARTICULAR STIPULATIONS AS TO MATERIALS? FOR INSTANCE, I THINK THE INTENT FROM WHAT WE'VE JUST KIND OF ALL GATHERED OVER THE YEARS IS THAT THE INTENT WAS MAYBE TO CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, AND THAT JUST NEVER HAPPENED. BUT IT'S ALSO KIND OF A TOOL THAT THE CITY CAN USE TO KIND OF GET SOME, SOME BETTER DEVELOPMENTS.

WHEN WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT COMES BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. SO ACTUALLY WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING IN OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT PLANS. THIS IS A PART OF MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS IS NEAR A MAJOR INTERSECTION ON THE EAST SIDE. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, TOO. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THEY NEVER MAYBE COMPLETED WHAT THEY MEANT TO DO REGARDING ANY STANDARDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OR APPEARANCE OF THE THE BUILDINGS, BUT NEVERTHELESS, THIS IS FAIRLY VISIBLE. LOCATION AND. YOU'VE ANSWERED WHAT YOU COULD FOR ME NOW. MISS SHARP, HOW OFTEN DO THESE RECONSIDERATIONS FOR THIS TYPE OF REASON COME UP? THIS HAS BEEN, I THINK, THE SECOND TIME IN THE THREE AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE. THE OTHER ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT A CP REVISION. YEAH. THANK YOU. QUESTION. SO I UNDERSTAND IS THE BUILDER HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. NO I LET THEM KNOW THEY SHOULD BE HERE. BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT. WELL THAT CERTAINLY DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. I'M STILL GOING TO ASK MY QUESTION. AND IF THERE'S JUST CRICKETS BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO ANSWER IT, I UNDERSTAND.

AT WHAT POINT DID THEY REALIZE THAT THERE WERE COST OVERRUNS, AND WHY DID THEY NOT BRING IT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR APPROVAL? SO I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER IT. I CAN'T ANSWER FOR THEM, BUT THERE WAS A LETTER FROM THE OWNER PROVIDED IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL, AND JUST FROM DISCUSSING WITH THEM, BASICALLY, ONCE THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION, THEY LOOKED AT KIND OF THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THINGS AND REALIZED THAT THE MATERIALS THAT THEY HAD PERMITTED IN THE CUP AND ALSO THE BUILDING PERMIT WERE GOING TO BE TOO COSTLY. THEY'VE DONE SOME OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY THAT WEREN'T IN OVERLAYS. AND SO WITH THOSE PROJECTS, THEY HAD BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF MAKE THOSE CHANGES IN THE FIELD. THEY DIDN'T REALIZE DURING THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD A CUP, THEY HAD TO GET APPROVAL TO CHANGE THE MATERIALS. AND MISS SHARPE, ONE MORE QUESTION WITH OPTION TWO, APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS. WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS IN WHICH THIS COMMISSION CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS? ARE THERE CERTAIN OUTER BOUNDS THAT'S TOO FAR OUT OF THE REALM OF REQUIREMENTS TO ISSUE A CUP? IS EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE WHAT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF LIMITATIONS ON RECOMMENDATIONS? I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, JUST ABOUT ANYTHING IS ON THE TABLE AND OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. IT'S JUST ULTIMATELY GOING TO COME DOWN TO, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE TO KIND OF AGREE TO ANY OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS HERE. IF IF THERE IS A MODIFICATION REQUESTED TONIGHT, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND DISCUSS WITH THEM. AND IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ABLE OR WILLING TO DO, THEN IT WOULD LIKELY END UP HAVING TO COME BACK. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK ANYTHING IS ON THE TABLE. THERE MIGHT BE SOME THINGS THAT MAY

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FOR STAFF. MY MICROPHONE WASN'T ON ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAIS. NO. I HAD IN MIND.

OKAY. PLEASE CARRY ON. VICE CHAIR. THE THIS COULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED BY TALKING WITH STAFF AT SOME EARLIER POINT BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION WAS COMPLETED. ABSOLUTELY, YES. SO IN A RESPECT, I DON'T MEAN TO IMPLY ANYTHING ABOUT MY PARTICIPATION HERE OVER THE YEARS, BUT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS NOTHING. IT COULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED SOME TIME AGO IN A WAY THAT WAS LESS COSTLY TO EVERYBODY, IS THE POINT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME, I GUESS, IN THREE AND A HALF YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE. AND I READ THE LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT, AND I LOOK AT EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON HERE. AND I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THESE SITUATIONS WHERE ONE MIGHT SAY, AS THEY USED TO, IT'S EASIER TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS THAN PERMISSION. AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S BEHIND THIS, ACTUALLY, I WOULD HATE TO ATTRIBUTE A MOTIVE TO TO THIS KIND OF THING, BUT CERTAINLY THEY WEREN'T PLAYING STRAIGHT UP. I MEAN, IF I HAD AN INVESTMENT LIKE THIS GOING ON, I WOULD HAVE AT LEAST CALLED YOU GUYS AND SAID, WE NEED TO CHANGE. METAL BARS, FOR INSTANCE. I COULD SEE THAT GOING AWAY. SURE, SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY MYSELF. IF YOU'RE TALKING STUCCO, BRICK AND STONE, MY EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE, ARE THEY RELATIVELY THE INSTALLATION AND MATERIALS ARE ROUGHLY ALL THE SAME. SO I DON'T GET THAT.

YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME. SO I REALLY DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. BUT I'D HATE TO IMPUTE A MOTIVE BECAUSE NEITHER MOTIVE I COULD IMPUTE WOULD NECESSARILY BE A GOOD ONE. TO. TO ADD ON TO THAT, WE SEEM TO HAVE HAD OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME IN HERE AND SAID PEOPLE WHO FOR A LIVING BUILD THESE THINGS AND DEAL WITH THE CITY AND SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT MY COSTS WERE. I WASN'T AWARE THAT WAS A RULE. I'M NOT BUYING THAT. WE HAVE A BUNCH OF LIKE, AIRHEAD BUILDERS OUT THERE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I THINK THIS WAS THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE, BUT I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. YEAH. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT HERE TO TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE IT'S REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT ANY RECOMMENDATION WE MAKE WOULD JUST END UP NOT BEING FOLLOWED ANYWAY. I MEAN, THEY CAME AT US ONCE WITH A CUP AND THEN DIDN'T FOLLOW IT. SO IS THERE ANY RECOURSE TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE REQUEST? LIKE, I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE YOU ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO ALONGSIDE OF IT. HAVE THEY NOT BEEN ISSUED A CO BECAUSE OF THIS. SO CURRENTLY THEY HAVE A AND THIS KIND OF TIES INTO MY ANSWER TO COMMISSIONER HAWK'S QUESTION AS WELL. CURRENTLY THEY HAVE A TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT UNTIL THE THE CUP IS HANDLED THAT THEY WILL NOT BE GIVEN A FULL CO. AND WITH WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR PLAN. SO WE COULD REVOKE THAT CO OR THE TCO IS VALID FOR 30 DAYS. WE COULD NOT EXTEND THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OR CONSULTATIVE BODY. WHAT IS THE WHAT ARE THE LIMITS OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE? SIMPLY THE ONES THAT ARE PUT BEFORE US. SO YOUR OPTIONS, LIKE I SAID, PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING'S ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION. THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED. SO UNLESS IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO KIND OF ALTER IT WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVISE LIKE FULL BUILDING PLANS, I WOULD SUGGEST NOT GOING THAT ROUTE. BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU ALL TO DETERMINE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE KIND OF COSMETIC. A LOT OF TIMES THAT FIBER CEMENT

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SO I'M GOING TO, I GUESS, LEAD WITH A MOTION AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS ON THAT IF IT GETS SECONDED. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE REVISIONS. I'LL SECOND. YEAH. SO MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO DENY REVISIONS MADE BY MYSELF AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WEBB. MY THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THIS IS THEY REALLY JUST KIND OF DISRESPECTED THE PROCESS, WHETHER INTENTIONALLY OR NOT. AND I THINK THAT TO ALLOW MODIFICATIONS AT THIS POINT, ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT WITH THEM, THE POINT IS MOOT. WE WOULD HAVE TO TABLE IT AND HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH US. SO I WOULD RATHER SAY, LET'S JUST TELL THEM TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN. AND THAT ALSO SETS A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS IN KYLE, IF YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS, I MEAN, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. IF YOU'RE GOING TO WORK HERE, YOU NEED TO RESPECT OUR STAFF. YOU NEED TO RESPECT THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY.

AND IF YOU COME TO US AND SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DELIVER ONE THING AND YOU DELIVER SOMETHING ELSE, THERE'S GOING TO BE CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR. SO OF COURSE, OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHY THAT WOULD BE DENIED. BUT THOSE ARE MY $0.02.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? I JUST HAVE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHAIR OR FOR STAFF IF. CAN THEY APPEAL THIS? YES. AND AND TO WHOM THEY WOULD APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL. RIGHT. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. IF NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS, THAT MAY BE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, REGARDLESS OF OUR VOTE. THEY NEED TO HEAR IT FROM PEOPLE WHO CAN TALK TO THEM DIRECTLY, NOT A CONSULTATIVE BODY NECESSARILY, THAT WE WILL RENDER OUR DECISION TONIGHT. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY CAN APPEAL IF THEY WISH, AND TALK TO PEOPLE WITH MORE AUTHORITY THAN WE. ALONG THAT LINE. DO. WE HAVE THE OPTION TO TABLE THIS MOTION IN THIS ITEM UNTIL A FUTURE MEETING, GIVING THE DEVELOPER A CHANCE TO COME AND PRESENT HIS OR HER CASE, AND THAT ALLOWS THIS BODY TO HEAR OUT THE OPTIONS AND VET THEM FOR COUNCIL. THAT WAY THEY HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION AND RANGE OF OPTIONS ON THE TABLE VERSUS THEM HEARING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME FROM THAT DEVELOPER. OR DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ONE OF THESE THREE OPTIONS TONIGHT? I THINK YOU CERTAINLY COULD TABLE IT IF IF THAT'S THE ROUTE YOU'LL CHOOSE TO GO WITH. I THINK FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT DIRECTION Y'ALL WOULD BE LOOKING FOR SO THAT WE CAN TALK TO THE THE OWNER DEVELOPER AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. CAN WE WORK TOWARDS THIS? SO THAT WAY IF THEY WERE TO BRING IT BACK, THEY'RE READY TO GO. MAYBE THEY'VE ALREADY MADE SOME OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS OR WE CAN JUST TABLE IT UNTIL THEY'RE ABLE TO TO ATTEND MY. ARE YOU DONE? SORRY. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CHAIR THAT I WOULD THINK THAT TABLING THIS SEEMS MOST PRUDENT. AND ASKING STAFF TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DEVELOPER. WHAT WOULD IT TRULY COST AND WHY IS IT PROHIBITIVE TO BRING IT BACK UP TO HOW THE CIP WAS INITIALLY ISSUED? AND ALONG THOSE LINES, I WOULD RECOMMEND, RATHER THAN LEAVING IT UP TO A YES OR NO DECISION, THEY COULD COME BACK WITH SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS, DIFFERENT RENDERINGS FOR DIFFERENT VARIOUS DESIGNS FOR US TO CHOOSE FROM, AND THOSE OPTIONS BE BASED OFF OF WHAT IS FEASIBLE AND WITH, YOU KNOW, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF CONSTRAINT, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF CLEAR PATH FORWARD THAT WE AGREE WITH, AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO TOTALLY KILL THEIR PROJECT, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A VACANT BUILDING WITH NO USE SITTING IN THAT PARTICULAR SPOT EITHER. SO I THINK SOME PREPARATION WORK WOULD BE ADVISABLE. SO MY THOUGHTS ON

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SO I, I DO THINK, YES, IT'S IT'S HARSH PERHAPS. AND I DID READ THE LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE REASONS FOR WHY THIS HAPPENED. BUT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE TIME OF STAFF HAVING TO WORK THROUGH THIS. THEY'RE ALREADY DOING IT ONE TIME. DO WE WANT TO OPEN UP THE DOOR FOR STAFF TO HAVE TO DO THIS ON A MORE FREQUENT BASIS? YEAH, AND I AGREE WITH YOUR USE OF THE WORD DISRESPECT. THAT WOULD SORT OF. UNCOVER MY FEELINGS ABOUT MOTIVATIONS TO SOME DEGREE ON THE PART OF THE APPLICANT. THIS IS THIS IS JUST I QUITE HAVEN'T QUITE SEEN ANYTHING THIS BAD. I MEAN, WE BEFORE REALLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GARAGE DOORS TO DO A WHOLE BUILDING IS SOMETHING ELSE. WE HAD A HOTEL COME TO TOWN AND ASKED FOR AN EXTRA STORY, AND WE VOTED TO APPROVE. THE COUNCIL NARROWLY VOTED TO FOLLOW ON THAT, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER CAME BACK AND SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, WE'D LIKE TO SWITCH OUT ALL THE STUCCO FOR HARDIPLANK. WE WENT THE WHOLE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY OTHER THAN THE ENTRANCE WHERE WE GOT INTO IT WITH THEM AND THEY THEY BACKED DOWN. THEY MADE A CHOICE. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DEVELOP IT ANY, ANY LONGER. SO YOU SEE, SOME THINGS CAN HAPPEN DECISIVELY IF EVERYBODY'S PLAYING THE GAME STRAIGHT. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M THINKING THAT THIS IS AND I AGREE THAT IT'S DISRESPECT. IT'S BLOWING OFF YOUR TIME. OUR TIME AND ENOUGH SAID. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID THAT I FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE WITH ALL OF IT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT I COULD ADD, CERTAINLY NOT AS POLITELY AND PROFESSIONALLY AS THE REST OF YOU ADDED IT. I'LL VOTE NO ON THIS 100 TIMES. THE ONLY REASON I COULD SEE TABLING IT IS I THINK WE SHOULD TABLE IT UNTIL THEY SHOW UP HERE AND SAY SOMETHING TO US. I FULLY BELIEVE THAT THE REASON THEY ARE NOT HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO APPEAL THE DECISION ANYWAY. SO WHY WASTE A TUESDAY EVENING? SO YEAH, I, I STILL I STILL SECONDED THE MOTION. BUT IF WE DECIDE TO TABLE IT I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT UNTIL THEY CAN SHOW UP. AND BEING RETIRED I DO HAVE SOME EXTRA TIME ON TUESDAYS, AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO APPEAR AT THE COUNCIL AND SPEAK FROM THE LECTERN DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS AS REGARDS THIS PROJECT, I'LL JOIN YOU. JUST BE CAREFUL WE DON'T REACH A QUORUM.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ON THE ON THE TABLE? OKAY, SO LET'S VOTE. THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE AMENDMENT TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DENYING PLEASE SAY I, I ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. NAY. OKAY. SO THAT MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

[3) Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding the following: American Planning Association Conference (Texas Chapter). Upcoming Project (Project Sahara). Planning & Zoning Commission Training. ]

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THERE IS A A PRETTY BIG EASEMENT ACROSS THERE FOR TRANSMISSION LINES. SO THAT AREA WILL BE UTILIZED AS BY PARKLAND AND DRAINAGE AREA KIND OF BISECTS THE SITE ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED ROAD. THIS IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY'D BE LOOKING AT.

330 MAXIMUM. THEY ARE DOING LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE UNITS 80% AT 60% AND THEN 20% AT 50. SO THESE ARE MORE IN LINE WITH KYLE'S MFI VERSUS AUSTIN. SO THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.

AGAIN PARKS AND OPEN SPACE ABOUT TEN ACRES LOOKING ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FEET OF MEETING SPACE A COVERED PAVILION, PLAYGROUNDS. SO HERE'S KIND OF A PHASING PLAN AND KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT ACQUIRING AS FAR AS LEASES, WHO THEY'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET IN THERE.

THIS IS NOT FINALIZED. THIS IS JUST THEIR COACH LOOKING AT KIND OF OPTIONS THEY WOULD SEEK TO TO HAVE IN THEIR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. HERE'S THE MULTIFAMILY KIND OF SOME OF THEIR CONCEPT DESIGNS. AGAIN, I'VE NOT SEEN ANY FINALIZED THOSE DOCUMENTS IN THE DA, BUT THOSE WILL BE COMING FORWARD. SINGLE FAMILY CONCEPTS. TOWNHOME CONCEPTS. AND THEN AGAIN TOUCHED ON THE RIGHT OF WAY. THEY'LL BE DEDICATING THAT 7.2 ACRES, BE BUILDING THE VIBE AGAIN PAYING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE PARKS OPEN SPACE. THEY ARE UTILIZING LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FOR WATER CONSERVATION. AND THEN CITY INFRASTRUCTURE EXTENSION.

SO THEY WILL NEED TO DO A CCN SWAP WITH THE THIRD PARTY WATER PROVIDER. THAT PROCESS HAS ALREADY COMMENCED AND THAT'LL BE GOING TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. SO THEY'RE LOOKING WORKING WITH STAFF TO UPDATE ALL DOCUMENTS AND THEN CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL ON PNC AND CITY COUNCIL. THAT SHOULD BE COMING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE'VE GOT A PRETTY TIGHT DEADLINE THAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS. WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO YOU GUYS WILL BE SEEING THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND THE APPLICANT IS IS HERE. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN TURN IT OVER TO HIM. I'M JUST THRILLED THAT YOU'RE HERE. I WAS GOING TO SAY REAL QUICK, PUT THIS PRESENTATION OUT A LITTLE BIT EARLY. THIS THIS TIMELINE HAS BEEN REFINED. THIS IS GOING TO BE COMING BACK FOR YOU FOR CONSIDERATION NEXT MONTH. SO I DID WANT TO WITH OUR PUBLICATION. NOW WE REALLY GOT THIS OUT EARLY AND ON TIME. SO THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF REFINED. SO THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNERS ARE DEFINITELY WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THIS WILL COME BEFORE YOU NEXT MONTH I THINK AT YOUR 23RD MEETING. AND THEN IT WILL PROCEED TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION IN OCTOBER. SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE SCHEDULE WE'RE LOOKING GOING TOWARDS. IF I UNDERSTAND RIGHT, OUR SOLE PURVIEW ON APPROVAL IS FOR THE PUD, CORRECT? YES, SIR. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE DETAIL AHEAD OF NEXT MONTH'S MEETING ON THE PARAMETERS OF THAT. WHAT HOW THAT OPERATES. ALL THE KIND OF DETAILS I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US. BUT JUST AS A

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SO IT WILL LOOK AT LAND USES WHAT THOSE SETBACKS ARE GOING TO BE AMOUNTS QUANTITIES ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE IN THAT. AND IT WILL HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE PHASING. SO IT WILL DEFINITELY GET SOME MORE MORE IN THE SPECIFICS OF THIS. BUT IT SHOULD BE. ABSOLUTELY CONSISTENT KIND OF WITH THIS OVERVIEW OF THE SLIDES THAT WERE PRESENTED TONIGHT. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IS COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT IT ACTUALLY. HONESTLY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SAW SOME STUFF ON THIS YOU KNOW SIX SIX PLUS MONTHS AGO AS WELL. THIS IS A NEW APPLICANT, A NEW DEVELOPER AT THE TABLE FOR THIS PROJECT. THEY HAVE KEPT A LOT OF CONSISTENCIES. SO IT SHOULD LOOK SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS BEING PLANNED BEFORE. BUT BUT COUNCIL HAS LOOKED AT THIS WITH SOME OF THE DA KIND OF COMPONENTS OF IT.

AND LOOKING AT THE CHEVAUX PASTRANA PARKWAY EXTENSIONS AND SOME OF THOSE AS WELL. SO SINCE IT WAS KIND OF FORECASTED OR SHOWED TO COUNCIL, WE'D LIKE TO BRING THOSE BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TOO. SO YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY KIND OF WHAT COUNCIL IS SEEING AND DO A FORECAST OF WHAT'S COMING UP BEFORE YOU AS A AS A BOARD. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE EVER GET DO WE GET ANY INPUT ON MATERIAL SELECTIONS FOR THE HOUSING AND MULTIFAMILY. OR IS IT STRICTLY ZONING RELATED. WELL IT IS ZONING RELATED. I THINK IF YOU WANT TO SHARE THAT NOW WOULD BE A GREAT TIME. THE OWNER AND APPLICANTS HERE. SO IF YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS, I THINK THEY'RE ALL EARS. I WAS TELLING HIM THAT MUCH LIKE COUNCIL WAS ABLE TO SHARE SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS AND IDEAS, I THINK YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. WHEN WE WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING WHERE WE WERE RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING CODE AND PLANNING AND EVERYTHING, ONE OF THE CONCERNS, AT LEAST I BROUGHT UP AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE SHARED IT WITH ME, WAS MOST OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS ARE STARTING TO ALL LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME. YOU CAN KIND OF DRIVE FROM ONE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT, AND GENERALLY, ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST SIDE, THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME. SO I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW COST IS A BIG FACTOR IN IT, BUT ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO BRING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CHARACTER OR CREATIVITY OR JUST A FEEL LIKE I'M IN A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT NOW FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE I DROVE THROUGH TO GET TO THIS ONE WOULD BE WOULD BE NICE. I THINK SOME OF THE RENDERINGS HERE ARE VERY NICE. AT LEAST THE TOP THREE PICTURES LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE FROM EVERY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. PERHAPS FOR THE DEVELOPER AS WELL AS FOR YOU. MR. LUTZ, IS THE POD GOING TO BE IS THERE GOING TO BE A PERFORMANCE SCHEDULE IN TERMS OF ROLLOUT OF THE PHASES? I THINK THERE'S SOME PHASING IN THERE THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR THE WATER MODELING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY KIND OF 380 TRIGGERS, INCENTIVES OR PENALTIES. I KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD IMMEDIATELY, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION. ANYTIME YOU'RE PUTTING THAT MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE COST IN, YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT ON A PROJECT.

BUT I DON'T I DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY, AS IT'S DRAFTED, THERE ARE SPECIFIC TRIGGERS THAT PHASE ONE WILL BE COMPLETED BY THIS DATE. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME TRIGGERS ON AND IF YOU CAN GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES MAYBE JASON, THEY ARE PROPOSING SOME TRIGGERS WHICH WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE D.R. VERSUS THE STANDARDS IN THE IN THE PUD THAT YOU'LL BE APPROVING. BUT WE ARE SAYING LIKE, HEY, YOU CAN DO IN PHASE ONE, THE FIRST PHASE OF THE MULTIFAMILY THAT THEY'RE DOING, PLUS THIS AMOUNT OF SINGLE FAMILY UNITS PLUS THE COMMERCIAL BEFORE YOU GO TO PHASE TWO. SO THERE WILL BE THOSE TRIGGERS IN REGARDS TO THAT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UNDERSTANDING THAT OBVIOUSLY THE DEVELOPER HAS TALKED ABOUT NEEDING A MIX OF BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TO REALLY KIND OF MAKE THE MIX WORK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DON'T WANT THE COMMERCIAL TO BE KICKED TO THE VERY LAST PHASE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN AT THE VERY END. SO THE THIS PHASING SCHEDULE WILL BE DEFINITELY HIGHLIGHTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THEN OUR PERMITTING WISE WILL ASSOCIATE WITH THIS AS WELL IN RELATION TO THAT. BUT WILL IT BE SUPER SPECIFIC IN THE THE PUD. PROBABLY NOT. IT'S MORE OF LIKE THE STANDARDS AND THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THAT, WHERE THE DA WILL REALLY HONE IN ON ON SOME OF THE PHASING REQUIREMENTS WITH IT. YEAH, JUST THE REASON THAT WE WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS IS THAT I'VE SAT THROUGH SEVERAL HEARINGS FOR PUDS, AND ACTUALLY THE GROUND HAS NEVER BEEN SCRAPED AT ALL. YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOTTEN THE DESIGNATION AND NOTHING EVER HAPPENED. AND SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING IN THAT LOCATION,

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I THINK IT'S AN ABSOLUTE MUST. I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE ONLY DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE. I MEAN, THE GROCERS ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN ARE DEFINITELY PACKED. SO I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY USE SOMETHING ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. I COMPLETELY AGREE. SO I WILL SAY I'LL FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON THIS FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE. ALTHOUGH WE TOO WOULD WANT A GROCER. I DO THINK THE GROCER WAS KIND OF A TRIGGER ITEM WITH THE PREVIOUS NEGOTIATIONS, AND THAT THAT SPECIFIC USE IS NOT A TRIGGER ITEM THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS SPECIFIC TO THE GROCER. SO THE THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED SOME OTHER THINGS. DEFINITELY KEEPING THE COMMERCIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL OR THE COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS THEY ARE LOOKING AT INCORPORATING A CIVIC SPACE TOO.

SO THREE ACRES OF CIVIC SPACE THAT COULD BE USED FOR A VARIETY OF KIND OF ON HONESTLY, A GOVERNMENTAL KIND OF USES WAS ATTACHED TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO THE 70,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL NT TO LIMIT THE GROCER REQUIRE OR ABILITIES, BUT TO HAVE IT NOT BE A GROCER REQUIREMENT IN THIS DA IN THAT CIVIC AND PARKLAND CHANGES WERE A CHANGE FROM THE LAST AGREEMENT AND RIGHT TO THE CURRENT ONE POTENTIALLY. IS THAT PART OF PHASE ONE, OR IS THAT TO BE DETERMINED AS PART OF THE OVERALL PACKAGE? IT'S A LITTLE BIT TO BE DETERMINED, BUT I THINK THEY TOO WANT THE CITY TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AS, AS, AS QUICKLY AS AS POSSIBLE AS WELL, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE KIND OF IN THAT COMMERCIAL RETAIL, BUT THAT'LL BE A TRIGGER. THAT WOULD BE MORE IN THE DA COMPONENT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK $0.02 COMMENT ABOUT THE BUILDING MATERIALS AND THE LOOK AND FEEL. IF YOU COULD GO FORWARD PLEASE ONE SLIDE TO THE APARTMENTS AND THEN WE CAN TOGGLE BETWEEN THAT ONE AND THE THE REST OF THE HOUSING TYPES. AND. THAT ONE. OKAY. SO I NOTICED FIRST THIS SLIDE AND THEN THE FOLLOWING SLIDE. IN MY OPINION THESE BUILDINGS DON'T BELONG TOGETHER. AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND HOW IT'S BEING SOLD AS AN

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BUT FOR NEXT TIME WE'RE HERE, WE'RE WE'LL SPEND SOME SOME TIME PUTTING A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION TOGETHER TO SPEAK TO THAT, HOW WE PLAN ON INTEGRATING ALL THAT. AND BUT I THINK I THINK THESE ARE REALLY GOOD SUGGESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YEAH. SO I, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT LIST OF ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT WERE GOING TO BE IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T THAT YOU WERE LOOKING INTO. YEAH. PLEASE. AND AND GEORGE, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE HOPES AND DREAMS AND POTENTIAL PARTNERS TO GO IN THERE. ABSOLUTELY. NO ONE SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE TO TO MOVE IN TO THIS DEVELOPMENT YET. SO THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT RETAIL COACH. THEY'RE KIND OF A THEY'RE A BROKER THAT HELPS FIND HOMES FOR RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS. WAS GENERALLY SAYING THIS WOULD BE SOME GREAT OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE FEASIBLE IN THIS AREA. I DON'T THINK HE'S GOT ANYONE SIGNED YET FOR I WASN'T TRYING TO SUGGEST HE DID. I MY MY PROBLEM IS, IS THAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE. AND I KNOW THIS REALLY ISN'T OUR PURVIEW, BUT I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION IT. THIS TOWN, IN MY OPINION, HAS A BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH CHAIN FATIGUE, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT NOTHING BUT CHAINS AROUND HERE FOR MILES. THERE'S ONLY A FEW LOCAL JOINTS THAT ARE STRUGGLING ALONG AGAINST ALL THESE CHAINS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AT LEAST A FEW LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESSES IN THAT IN THAT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. THAT'S JUST A PERSONAL OPINION, MAYBE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. I THINK IT'S FOR FOR THIS EXERCISE. YEAH. WE WENT WITH A WITH THE NAME BRANDS. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO TRY TO GO AFTER IT AT THIS POINT, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY WE WOULD LOVE TO I THINK THAT WOULD ADD A LOT OF CHARACTER TO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE WOULD LOVE THAT AS WELL. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I HAVE A FEW SLIDES ON OUR CONTINUING TRAINING. SO WE DID A TRAINING A COUPLE OF MONTHS BACK. KIND OF COVERED INTRO PURVIEW YOUR ROLE WHERE WE'RE SITTING. AND SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE TOOLS UTILIZED BY CITY STAFF AND YOURSELVES. SO THESE TOOLS ARE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS COMP PLANS, ZONING PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENTS AND OVERLAY DISTRICTS. MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE TERMS. JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON ON WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE AND HOW THEY THEY WORK TOGETHER. SO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THIS IS A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT. THIS IS DONE THROUGH CITY COUNCIL. IT'S TYPICALLY NOT A P AND Z TOOL, BUT IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR COORDINATING ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ANNEXATION TIMELINES, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESPONSIBILITIES FOR UTILITY UPGRADES, ADDITIONAL LOUISE OR BUILDING MATERIALS, THIS IS THE TOOL THAT GETS THAT DONE. SO AGAIN, PROJECTS, DESCRIPTIONS, RESPONSIBILITIES. IT WILL COVER DURATION. IT MAY HAVE SOME FINANCIAL PROVISIONS UTILITIES, ZONING, LAND USE. YOU'LL SEE THE PERMITTED USES. WE GENERALLY INCLUDE A PROHIBITED USE CHART OF BUSINESSES OR TYPE LAND USES WE DON'T THINK ARE VIABLE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, THEY'RE IMPORTANT FOR PROVIDING THAT LEGAL CLARITY. THE PARTIES CAN ASSESS AND ASSESS AND MANAGE THEIR RISK, ENSURE THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH ZONING REGULATIONS,

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AND THEN THE ACTION PLANS, THOSE ARE LISTED, IDENTIFIED STEPS TO ENSURE THAT THAT YOUR COMP PLAN IS GOING THROUGH. SO IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE BACK OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE KIND OF TIER ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE OF THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR COMP PLAN IS BEING ENACTED EFFECTIVELY. SO ANOTHER ONE IS ZONING. THAT'S WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY. Y'ALL ARE PRETTY PRETTY EXPERTS AT THIS. BASICALLY JUST DIVIDING OUR DISTRICT INTO CITIES, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL WHERE THESE DISTRICTS GO, WE REGULATE HEIGHTS, SETBACKS, IMPERVIOUS COVER. ALL OF THOSE CAN BE MANIPULATED OR CHANGED OR MODIFIED, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANT THAT DEVELOPMENT TO GO. WHAT REGULATIONS CAN ZONING ADDRESS? I JUST KIND OF TOUCHED ON THOSE. AGAIN, SINGLE FAMILY MULTI-FAMILY TOWNHOME VERSUS DUPLEX SETBACKS. DENSITY IS A BIG ONE, ESPECIALLY IN COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE TO LOOK ABOUT PROVIDING WATER WASTEWATER. WE WANT TO ANALYZE THE DENSITIES OF EACH DEVELOPMENT, MAKE SURE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THAT. AN ADDITIONAL PART OF ANY ZONING IS THE PUD. THESE ARE ZONING DESIGNATIONS OR CATEGORIES THAT ALLOW US TO CREATE KIND OF UNIQUE DEVELOPMENTS. THEY MAY TAKE IN MIXED USES. RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL. THE ONE WE SAW, SAHARA IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. IF IT WAS STRAIGHT ZONING YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT ONE TYPE.

AND SO IT OFTEN SEPARATES THOSE LAND USES. IT GETS VERY FLEXIBLE URBAN APPROACH. IT CAN REDUCE SETBACKS AS LONG AS YOU'RE MEETING FIRE. LIFE SAFETY CAN CREATE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ADDITIONAL PARKLAND. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY ITS OWN UNIQUE ZONING DISTRICT. SO A COUPLE OF WAYS WE DO THAT IS SOME FOLKS MAY PICK A BASE DISTRICT, SAY, HEY, WE LIKE THE USES ALLOWED IN OURS, BUT WE WANT TO MODIFY IT IN THIS WAY, WHETHER IT'S ADDITIONAL SIGNS, WHETHER IT'S ADDITIONAL DENSITY, ADDITIONAL USES, OVERLAY DISTRICTS ARE SOMETHING WE SEE A LOT. WE HAVE SEVERAL IN THE CITY. AS MR. SIEGEL POINTED OUT. SOME HAVE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS IN THEM, SOME DO NOT. SO WITH OUR CODE REWRITE WE ARE GOING TO START LOOKING AT THOSE THOSE KIND OF VACANT AREAS AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY REGS THAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE TO, TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE GUIDANCE FOR THE DEVELOPERS AS THEY GO INTO SOME OF THOSE OVERLAYS. HOWEVER, THE DIFFERENCES IS THIS OVERLAY WILL SIT ON TOP OF A DISTRICT. SO YOU COULD HAVE A PROPERTY THAT WAS ZONED, IT GOT BROUGHT IN. NOW IT'S A PUD HAS ITS UNIQUE ZONING, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME ADDITIONAL OVERLAYS THAT COME IN ON TOP OF THAT. SO OUR I-35 OVERLAY IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. WE HAVE SEVERAL PUDS THAT ARE ALONG THAT AREA. IF YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE OF OUR PROJECTS, THEY THEY WERE VESTED UNDER CERTAIN PUD REQUIREMENTS. THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO THIS, THIS AND THIS, BUT THE OVERLAY HAD MORE STRINGENT STANDARDS, WHETHER IT'S LANDSCAPING, SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY, PARKING RATIOS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THOSE ARE IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER APUD MIGHT HAVE. SO HOW DO THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER? SO REALLY DEVELOPMENT IS CONTEMPLATED. THE FIRST STEP IS TO EVALUATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IS IT MEETING THAT PLAN?

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SO AS WE DO IT HERE, WHEN WE PRESENT THESE, WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING. IF THERE'S A PID, IF THERE'S A PUD, IF THERE'S A DA, IF THERE'S A 380 AGREEMENT, WE WILL TOUCH ON ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS, LET YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW THE WHOLE PROJECT WORKS TOGETHER. BUT YOUR PURVIEW MAY ONLY BE THE PUD ITSELF AND NOT THE DA OR THOSE OTHER DOCUMENTS.

SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. I DID ATTACH SOME OF THE PRIOR TRAINING SLIDES FOR ANYBODY THAT WEREN'T DIDN'T ATTEND THE LAST ONE. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION? YOU DID SUCH A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OH, WE HAVE A COMMENT FROM VICE CHAIR STEVE. IT'S TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT IN THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WITH THE COMP PLAN THAT WE HAVE, WHICH IS NOT THAT OLD, TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS THIS CITY GETS BUILT OUT AND BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE NOT JUST DOING TODAY, BUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE FUTURE. THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE PUD REQUEST IS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THEM SITTING AROUND TOWN. I CAN NAME SOME.

WELL, ONE NO LONGER IS A IS IS HAS BEEN BUILT OUT. IT WAS APPROVED IN 2011 AND BUILD OUT IN 2024 WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEVER BE BUILT OUT TODAY. WHEN WE THINK OF LOOKING AT IT TODAY AND SEVERAL OF THE MORE CONTENTIOUS SITUATIONS THAT HAVE ARISEN WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND TOWN AND WITH PIDS AND PUDS AND HOA COSTS, AND WHY AREN'T WE IN THE CITY? AND EVERY OTHER KIND OF COMPLAINT THERE IS REALLY GET TO THE ROOT OF DECISION MAKING IN 2015 AND 16. AND THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO THINK AHEAD AND EQUIP OTHERS TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE LEFT BEHIND, THAT WE HAVEN'T CREATED PROBLEMS THAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAS GOT TO FIGURE OUT IN 10 OR 15 YEARS. THIS IS A VERY BIG THING FOR ME. I KNOW WE HAVE ONLY SOME INFLUENCE OVER THAT, BUT WHEN WE MAKE OUR DECISIONS, EVEN AS WE DID TONIGHT ON THAT CUP, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHY WE'RE DOING THAT. IT'S NOT JUST THAT FAILURE OF RESPECT. IT'S CONSISTENCY AND RESPECT FOR AN ENTIRE PROCESS OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHOLE CITY. SO JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. THERE ARE VERY GOOD REASONS TO LOOK AT THIS AND TO REALLY TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT IN MY WAY. YOU KNOW, IN THE STATE LAW, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GENERAL HEALTH, WELFARE AND GENERAL WELFARE, HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY, LIKE MOST BODIES OF THIS KIND. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET DOWN TO PARTICULARS, WE'RE LIVING IN KYLE, TEXAS. AND I THINK IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO USE ALL THE TOOLS WE HAVE, ALL THE GIVE THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY DO A GOOD JOB WITH THIS. AND I THINK IT'S QUITE MEANINGFUL NOT JUST FOR US TO PARTICIPATE, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I'VE BEEN UP HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE WHAT THE CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS ARE, AND MANY OF THEM ARE VALID AND USEFUL, AND I THINK WE NEED TO LEARN FROM THEM AND FROM OUR OWN EXPERIENCE SITTING UP HERE IN THE DAIS. WITH THAT ITEM, DO THE COMP PLANS AND THE PUDS SUNSET. NO PLANS CAN BE AMENDED LONG TERM. SO IF A DEVELOPMENT SITS OR THERE'S MARKET CHANGES OR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES, MAYBE IT WAS A USE

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WITH THAT, WE HAVE CONCLUDED ALL OF THE BUSINESS ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE ADJOURNED AT 620. MY WATCH IN THAT WATCH ARE NOT THE SAME. AND NOW THERE'S NO TIME ON THERE. WHAT TIME IS IT? SEVEN

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