Oct 08, 2025 City Council Regular Meeting

[15) Consider approval of Amendment No. 2 to Task Order No. 8 to Pape-Dawson Consulting Engineers, LLC. for additional right of way data, survey and design for the 2022 Road Bond Program Old Stagecoach Road North Project in the amount of $120,690. ]

AGENDA ITEM 15. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO TASK ORDER NUMBER EIGHT TO PAPE DAWSON CONSULTING ENGINEERS, LLC FOR ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY DATA SURVEY AND DESIGN FOR THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM. OLD STAGECOACH ROAD NORTH PROJECT. THE AMOUNT OF

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$120,690. THIS IS MR. TRIMBLE'S ITEM. MR. TOBIAS, YOU HAVE. YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. TRIMBLE, FOR RESPONDING BACK TO ME ON THE CLARIFICATION. THE EMAIL THAT I SENT WAS BASICALLY WAS WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THE STRUCTURE ITSELF, THE RETENTION POND. AND I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION OR MAYBE THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS GOING TO INTERFERE WITH THE SIX RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS BEFORE. BUT IF YOU COULD JUST CLARIFY WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS, AND AS FAR AS THE DETENTION POND ITSELF. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THIS AMENDMENT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH SOME ADDITIONAL WORK AND ANALYSIS THAT BOSTON DID WITH REGARDS TO OLD STAGECOACH ROAD NORTH. AND SO THIS IS THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROJECT.

THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO DO WITH ANY PHYSICAL DETENTION PONDS. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT DETENTION POND RELOCATION, THIS IS ABOUT WE HAD THE DETENTION POND DESIGNED IN ONE LOCATION ON THE NORTH PART, AND THEN WE HAD TO REALIGN THAT ALIGNMENT OF OF THE DETENTION POND. SO IT'S ALL WITHIN THE DESIGN. WE'RE NOT IMPACTING ANY CURRENT DETENTION POND OR RELOCATING ANY DETENTION POND OR IMPACTING ANY HOMES. IN THAT REGARD, THIS IS JUST MERELY A DESIGN EXERCISE, MORE OR LESS RIGHT NOW, SO WE CAN GET THE THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S NEEDED, CORRECT. AND UPDATE OUR PLANS. AND SO A LOT OF THIS WORK HAS TO DO WITH THAT. AND THEY'VE HAD TO DO SOME ADJUSTMENTS. THEY'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS LOOKING AT VERIFYING VERIFYING RIGHT OF WAY LINES, VERIFYING EASEMENT LOCATIONS. SO A LOT OF THAT ADDITIONAL WORK. AGAIN, THAT'S JUST PART OF WHAT'S PART OF THIS AMENDMENT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR? ZUNIGA. THANK YOU. MIKE. YEAH. SO SO I'VE BEEN YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM SOME SOME RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ONE. AND I DO HAVE TO BRING UP THAT. IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE GIVE A LOT OF CONSIDERATION TO THE DEVELOPER HERE TO REALIGN OR REDESIGN THE DETENTION POND. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GETTING RELOCATED OR RESIZED. AND THEN. TO SOME LANDOWNERS, WE WE DON'T SEEM TO GIVE THE SAME FAIRNESS IN CONSIDERATION. IT'S JUST MOVES TO EMINENT DOMAIN AND DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SIDE OF A STREET IS TAKEN. SO ARE WE GIVING THE SAME LEVEL OF CONSIDERATION TO. ON ONE HAND, I UNDERSTAND THAT HOW IMPORTANT STAGECOACH IS, BUT ARE WE WEIGHING THE SAME CONSIDERATIONS TO THE LANDOWNERS AND, AND SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE SOMETHING WAS DESIGNED. WE'RE WAITING, WE'RE GOING BACK TO WORK WITH THEM. AND THE SCHEDULE IS MOVES, BUT IT'S NOT MOVING, BUT IT'S MOVING, YOU KNOW, FASTER WHERE WE JUST NEED TO TAKE FROM A LANDOWNER, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND THEN WHOEVER, WHEREVER WE TAKE IT FROM, WE TAKE IT FROM. SO PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WHY? WHY ARE WE RECONSIDERING HERE MORE OF THESE CHANGES AND NOT SO MUCH ON THE PROPERTY OWNER SIDE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW, THEY THEY FEEL THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE SAME. COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH. SO WE, WE HAVE WE RUN THE SAME PROCESS WITH EVERY PROPERTY OWNER. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE A PRETTY RIGOROUS PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW IN ANY OF OUR RIGHT OF WAY ASSESSMENT AND ACQUISITION. AND HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, THE BEST STRATEGY FOR RIGHT OF WAY IS NOT TO NEED IT. HONESTLY. YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY IMPACTS ON PROPERTIES OR TO TO MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS. BUT WHEN WE DO, WE GO THROUGH A PRETTY RIGOROUS PROCESS AND WE FOLLOW THAT PROCESS WITH EVERY PROPERTY OWNER IN THE SAME WAY. AND SO WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, PLAYING ANY FAVORITES OR DOING A DIFFERENT PROCESS FOR A DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNER. SOMETIMES, THOUGH, WHEN WE GO THROUGH OUR DESIGN, WE MAY HAVE TO ADJUST SOMETHING BASED ON WHAT WE FIND OUT THERE IN THE FIELD IF WE'RE DOING SOME ANALYSIS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE FIND UTILITY CONFLICTS, WE MAY HAVE TO ADJUST A CERTAIN ALIGNMENT OF THE ROADWAY. ALSO, POTENTIALLY WE MIGHT NEED TO MITIGATE SOME ISSUE THAT'S OUT THERE. SO THAT WILL BE SOME OF THE ADJUSTMENTS WE DO. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD FOOTPRINT AND THEN A GOOD SURVEY OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO NEED. SO WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT RIGHT OF WAY FOR WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT AND NOT TRYING TO TO TAKE ANYTHING MORE OR TAKE ANY, ANY ACTION TO, TO PURCHASE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.

SO WE TRY TO TAKE THAT CARE IN THAT PROCESS. AND THAT DOES REQUIRE SOMETIMES SOME ADJUSTMENT READJUSTMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT IS, IS, HAS IN SOME OF THAT INCLUDED AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THAT, MIKE. IT'S THE STAGECOACH. SO DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS BRIAN. YEAH. SO I THINK AGAIN THIS IS OLD STAGECOACH NORTH. SO THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE RELOCATION OF THE TREE TO THE SOUTH OF THAT LOCATION. THIS ALIGNMENT IS IS THE

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COUNCIL KNOWS CHANGED ON THIS ROADWAY. WE'RE USING THE EXISTING ALIGNMENT AND THEN WIDENING THAT ROADWAY FROM ESSENTIALLY SIX CREEK BOULEVARD ALL THE WAY OVER TO VETERANS DRIVE. AND THAT'S NECESSITATED SOME ADDITIONAL WORK RELATED TO THAT. THIS IS A DETENTION POND THAT'S NEEDED FOR DRAINAGE OUT OF THE ROADWAY. AND SO WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE DETENTION POND FOR THAT DRAINAGE THAT COMES OFF OF OUR ROADWAY THAT WE'RE CONSTRUCTING. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE OTHER ACTION ON MOVING THE TREE AND THE OTHER DETENTION PONDS THAT WE DISCUSSED. I THINK BACK IN FEBRUARY. IT'S BEEN SOME MONTHS AGO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. SO IT'S TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ISSUES. HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS EXPLAIN IT. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN IT DOES I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET THE ROADS DONE. IT COSTS MONEY AND WE TRY TO WORK WITH EVERYONE. IT JUST IT JUST APPEARED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS, BUT THEY'RE NOT INTENDED. IT'S JUST THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THE TIMELINE AND WE'RE ONLY TAKING WHAT WE NEED. AS YOU SAID, MR. TAYLOR. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S CONSIDERATIONS THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE STATE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW AS CITIES. I THINK WHAT IT IS IS THAT WE AS PROJECTS CHANGE AND DEVELOP, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE THOSE CHANGES IN THERE, LIKE MIKE WAS ALLUDING TO, LIKE THE UTILITIES. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING IN THAT AREA THAT WE HAVE TO GO AROUND OR RELOCATE. SO THERE ARE THINGS, BUT NO, THE THE OTHER POND IN QUESTION THAT BRIAN WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT ONE WAS DONE PRE ATLAS 14. SO WE DON'T WANT TO TOUCH THAT POND AT ALL. AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT IF WE TOUCH THAT POND WE'D HAVE TO INCREASE THE DEPTH AND SIZE, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY COST US A LOT OF MONEY AND PROBABLY HAVE TO ELIMINATE SOME HOMES. SO NOT TOUCHING THAT POND IS A TOP PRIORITY. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT POND. IF PEOPLE THINK THAT WE'RE TOUCHING THAT POND, THEY'RE MISTAKEN. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH IT. BUT YEAH, I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED ALSO WE'D HAVE TO DO IT TO ATLAS 1414 NEW SPEC. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT POND AND THAT WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT POND, AND THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T DO THAT. AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT IT'D BE TOO COSTLY. THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS, JUST VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE PROCESS. SO ANYONE ELSE? MOTIONS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 15. THANK YOU. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL

[21) Consider approval of a resolution adopting amendments to the Kyle Public Library Policies.]

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 21. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING AMENDMENTS TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY POLICIES. THIS ITEM IS PRESENTED BY MISS SCOTT. MR. HEIZER, YOU PULLED THE ITEM. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD. YEAH. IF YOU JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH THE POLICY, I DO HAVE SOME THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, BUT I'M HAPPY TO LISTEN. OKAY. SO JUST GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, OKAY? YEAH. PLEASE. MY PLEASURE. SO CAIRO PUBLIC LIBRARY POLICY REVISIONS. WE HAVE A TABLE OF CONTENTS HERE FOR THE SECTIONS AS FAR AS THE BACKGROUND OVERVIEW, REVISIONS FOR THE LIBRARY USE MEMBERSHIP, CIRCULATION, TEXT SHARE, DISPLAY AND EXHIBITS, MAKER SPACE AND THEN OPTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THE BACKGROUND AND OVERVIEW IS THE PUBLIC LIBRARY CREATED ITS FIRST OFFICIAL POLICIES AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. FEBRUARY 25TH FEBRUARY 24TH OF 25. THE LIBRARY BOARD REVIEWED, REVISED, AND APPROVED THE POLICIES TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL. ON MARCH 18TH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE KYLE PUBLIC LIBRARY POLICY PACKET POLICIES HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR FOUR MONTHS AND AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. SO WHAT IS THE LIBRARY USE POLICY? IT IS THE POLICY THAT ESTABLISHES ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR AND EXPECTATIONS. WHILE INDIVIDUALS UTILIZE LIBRARY SPACE AND RESOURCES. THE REVISIONS PROPOSED ARE TO CLARIFY LANGUAGE AND ADDRESS REOCCURRING BEHAVIOR THAT DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO A WELCOMING OR SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL. THE PROPOSED REVISIONS ARE COMMON WITH LIBRARY POLICIES. THE POLICY DOES NOT CURRENTLY STATE HOW OFTEN LIBRARY POLICY SHOULD BE REVIEWED TO ENSURE AND ESTABLISH INTENTIONAL PROCESS, THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT WILL BE ADDED. THE KYLE PUBLIC LIBRARY POLICIES WILL BE REVIEWED ANNUALLY. THE POLICY STATES THAT GUARDIANS AND CAREGIVERS MUST SUPERVISE THEIR CHILDREN. IT LEAVES ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION AS TO WHAT SUPERVISE MEANS TO CLARIFY EXPECTATIONS. LANGUAGE WILL BE ADDED THAT ESTABLISHES A PARENT CAREGIVER MUST ACTIVELY SUPERVISE AND THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THEIR CHILDREN. THE CURRENT POLICY INCLUDES A SECTION TITLED RESTROOMS. THAT SECTION WILL BE RENAMED LIBRARY SPACES TO INCLUDE OTHER AREAS OF THE LIBRARY. THE SUBSECTIONS ARE RESTROOMS, YOUTH SPACES, AND UNAUTHORIZED SPACES. THE CURRENT POLICY STATES THE RESTROOM LABORATORY IS TO BE USED FOR WASHING THE PERSON'S HAND AND FACE. THAT WOULD BE

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CHANGED TO ONLY ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. THIS CHANGE ALLOWS THE LIBRARY TO ADDRESS EACH SITUATION BASED UPON THE PURPOSE. FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE HAS A SNACK AND WANTS TO BRUSH THEIR TEETH, BUT IT PREVENTS SOMEONE FROM BRINGING DISHES FROM HOME TO WASH IN THE SINK.

THE CURRENT POLICY DOES NOT ADDRESS DESIGNATED USE SPACES. LANGUAGE WOULD BE ADDED THAT STATES THOSE SPACES ARE RESERVED FOR THOSE SPECIFIC AGE GROUPS AND THEIR FAMILIES. AN IMPROVEMENT WE'VE MADE UPON THIS PAST YEAR HAS BEEN DESIGNATING MORE OF A COLLECTION AND SPACES THAT ARE FOR CHILDREN, OLDER CHILDREN, TEENS AND ADULTS. LANGUAGE WILL ALSO BE ADDED ABOUT UNAUTHORIZED SPACE. THIS WOULD BE STAFF ONLY AREAS AND ESTABLISH THAT THEY ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THE CURRENT POLICY DOES NOT ADDRESS WHEELED DEVICES, WHICH ARE ALSO CONSIDERED. WHAT WAS THE WORD WE USED? RECREATIONAL DEVICES INSIDE THE LIBRARY. CUSTOMERS HAVE TRIED TO BRING THEIR BICYCLES, SKATEBOARDS, E-BIKES INTO THE BUILDING. LANGUAGE WILL BE ADDED TO PROHIBIT WHEELED DEVICES INSIDE THE LIBRARY BUILDING. THE CURRENT POLICY DOES NOT MENTION CERTAIN BEHAVIORS THAT STAFF ADDRESS AND CORRECT WEEKLY. SUCH BEHAVIORS INCLUDE CUSTOMERS LAYING DOWN, RUNNING, OR OTHERWISE MISUSING LIBRARY SPACE, EQUIPMENT, FURNITURE BEYOND ITS INTENDED PURPOSE.

USING CELL PHONES ON SPEAKER MODE, PRODUCING NOISE THAT COULD DISTRIBUTE CUSTOMERS, AND EXCESSIVE PUBLIC DISPLAYS OF AFFECTION. LANGUAGE WILL BE ADDED THAT DIRECTLY STATES THOSE BEHAVIORS ARE NOT ALLOWED. THESE BEHAVIORS ARE EITHER BROUGHT TO THE STAFF'S ATTENTION BY ANOTHER CUSTOMER OR NOTICED WHILE MONITORING THE SPACE. SUCH BEHAVIORS DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO A WELCOMING AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL CUSTOMERS, A CAREGIVER OR PARENT LAYING DOWN ON THE COUCH IN THE CHILDREN'S AREA PREVENTS OTHER CAREGIVERS FROM SHARING THAT SPACE. THIS IS A NEWER ISSUE BECAUSE WE NOW HAVE COUCHES AND SOME LOUNGING AREAS IN THE LIBRARY. BEFORE, WE DID NOT HAVE THESE COUCHES FOR FAMILIES TO SIT TOGETHER TO HAVE A STORY TOGETHER, OR TO BE TOGETHER ON THESE COUCHES. IT'S COMMON PRACTICE TO ADDRESS THESE BEHAVIORS IN POLICY. LAYING DOWN IN THE LIBRARY SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN GEORGETOWN, ROUND ROCK AND SAN MARCOS LIBRARY POLICIES. ANOTHER POINT I WANT TO BRING UP IS THAT ANYTIME WE WOULD HAPPEN TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY FOR COOLING OR WARMING STATION, THE EOC TAKES PRECEDENCE OF OUR POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOLS. AND MR. JOHNSON HAS THOSE PROCEDURES ALREADY PLANNED AND THAT WOULD SUPERSEDE OUR POLICIES ON LAYING DOWN SLEEPING FOOD IN THE LIBRARY AND THOSE ALSO CLOSING TIMES. THE CURRENT POLICY DOES NOT STATE THAT CUSTOMERS NEED TO LEAVE. UPON CLOSING, LANGUAGE WILL BE ADDED TO STATE. CUSTOMERS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO REMAIN IN THE BUILDING WHEN WE CLOSE. THE CURRENT POLICY STATES, A CUSTOMER MAY NOT DISTRIBUTE LITERATURE OR OTHERWISE SOLICIT CUSTOMERS INSIDE THE LIBRARY, BUILDING OR PARKING AREAS. THIS WILL CHANGE TO. A CUSTOMER MAY NOT DISTRIBUTE LITERATURE OR OTHERWISE SOLICIT, PANHANDLE OR PROSELYTIZE ON LIBRARY PROPERTY.

THIS IS TO ADDRESS COMMON OCCURRENCES SUCH AS CUSTOMERS LEAVING RELIGIOUS CARDS, ASKING FOR MONEY SELLING SOMETHING, MEMBERSHIP AND LIBRARY CARD. POLICY REVISION. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD. APPLICANTS MUST REGISTER FOR A LIBRARY CARD AT LEAST 15 MINUTES BEFORE CLOSING.

IT TAKES TIME TO ENSURE A LIBRARY CARDS ARE ISSUED, THAT WE GATHER CORRECT INFORMATION, AND THAT WE TELL THEM ABOUT ALL OUR AWESOME SERVICES THAT WE OFFER. WE'D LIKE TO ADD THE YOUTH LIBRARY CARD MUST BE CONNECTED TO A PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIANS LIBRARY CARD. THIS IS VERY COMMON TO ENSURE FINES AND FEES ARE ATTACHED TO THE YOUTH CARD TO THE ADULT CARE CARD WHEN THEY AGE OUT. WE WANT THEM TO STAY WITH US AND BECOME ADULTS AND HAVE THEIR OWN ADULT CARD, AND IT STILL REMAINS THE ADULT'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH THAT CHILD'S CARD. THE CIRCULATION POLICY REVISION UNDER THE SECTION BLOCKED ACCOUNTS. AD BLOCKED YOUTH ACCOUNTS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARENT LEGAL GUARDIAN.

THE PARENT LEGAL GUARDIANS ACCOUNT WILL ALSO BE BLOCKED UNTIL ISSUES ON THE YOUTH ACCOUNT ARE RESOLVED. THIS IS FOR WHEN SOMEONE HAS A BOOK OR ITEM THAT IS LONG LOST OVERDUE.

WE NO LONGER CHARGE OVERDUE FINES. THIS IS FOR THE ITEM ITSELF. CURRENTLY, ADULT CUSTOMERS DO NOT HAVE TO ADDRESS THEIR CHILDREN'S BLOCKED ACCOUNTS. THEY CAN BORROW MATERIALS ON THEIR CARD WHILE THEIR YOUTH CARD REMAINS BLOCKED. THIS ADDITION WILL ENSURE THAT PROBLEMS ARE ADDRESSED AND FINES AND FEES ARE PAID. TEXSHARE POLICY

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REVISION USING A TEXSHARE CARD FROM ANOTHER LIBRARY, ADD TEXSHARE MEMBERSHIPS ARE VALID FOR ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE ISSUED OR RENEWED. ALL LIBRARY CARD TYPES, EXCEPT FOR THE TEXSHARE MEMBERSHIP, HAVE A TIME FRAME ESTABLISHED IN THE CURRENT POLICY, AND THIS WILL REMEDY THAT. OVERSIGHT. DISPLAYS AND EXHIBIT POLICY REVISION INFORMATION. TABLING AT THE LIBRARY FOR LIMITS ON TABLE SESSIONS FOR ONCE A QUARTER PER AGENCY. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD, OR ONCE EVERY 30 DAYS FOR ORGANIZATIONS WITH AN OFFICIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF KYLE. THIS INCREASES THE OPPORTUNITY OF TABLING FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY. MAKERSPACE POLICY REVISIONS. FEE FOR CONSUMABLE MATERIALS HAS BEEN REMOVED. ALLOW ONE ONE HOUR 3D PRINT PER MONTH PER HOUSEHOLD TO KYLE PUBLIC LIBRARY CARDHOLDERS FREE OF CHARGE. CUSTOMERS ARE REQUIRED TO BRING THEIR OWN MATERIALS FOR USE FOR THE DIE CUT, MACHINE SEWING AND THE CRICKETS. THIS WOULD BE FABRIC. PAPER.

THANK YOU. JESSICA. REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT OF MAKERSPACE RESERVATIONS. THE MAKERSPACE WILL BE AVAILABLE DURING A LAB TIME NOW. AGE FOR INDEPENDENT USE. EDITED FOR CONSISTENCY OF 1212 YEARS OLD INDEPENDENTLY ENOUGH AND PROHIBIT USE OF 3D PRINTER FOR POLITICAL OR BUSINESS PRINTING. THIS REVISION WILL ALSO REMOVE POTENTIAL FINANCIAL BARRIERS BY ALLOWING RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE 3D PRINTER AND OTHER MACHINES FREE OF CHARGE, AND IT WILL REMOVE THE TIME CONSUMING PROCESS OF MONITORING SUPPLIES FROM THE LIBRARY STAFF BY ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO BRING THEIR OWN MATERIALS, THE LIBRARY CAN FOCUS ON ASSISTING THE CUSTOMERS. THE LIBRARY BOARD UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY VOTED ON AUGUST 14TH TO APPROVE THE REVISIONS OF THE MAKERSPACE. TO GO TO COUNCIL AND THE LIBRARY, USE MEMBERSHIP AND LIBRARY CARD CIRCULATION, TECH SHARE, DISPLAY AND EXHIBIT POLICY WAS ALSO UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY VOTED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH TO APPROVE REVISIONS TO GO TO COUNCIL AS WELL. SO OUR OPTIONS ARE APPROVE REVISIONS, APPROVE REVISIONS WITH MODIFICATIONS, AND ADVISE STAFF AND LIBRARY BOARD TO REVISE POLICIES AND PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE. NO. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. LESLIE, I APPRECIATE THE CONTEXT AND THE EXPLANATION AROUND. AND THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD TO WORK ON THESE POLICIES. SO I THINK MY FEELINGS THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE ARE ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES ON PAGES FIVE, SIX, EIGHT AND THEN HANDING OUT LITERATURE, WHICH IS ON PAGE TEN. EVERYTHING ELSE I'M PRETTY OKAY WITH. SO WITH THAT SAID, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT HERE, AND WE ALL WANT THE LIBRARY TO BE AS SAFE AND WELCOMING SPACE FOR EVERYBODY. BUT I FEEL LIKE THESE CHANGES UNINTENTIONALLY CREATE BARRIERS FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO RELY ON THE LIBRARY AS A LIKE A TRUE PUBLIC SPACE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO FOR FREE. AND SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, I FEAR JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT IT HERE AND HEARING YOU LIKE HEARING IT OUT LOUD WITHOUT JUST READING IT. I THINK IT'S IT'S ALL INTERPRETATION BASED ON THE PERSON WHO'S BY THE PERSON WHO'S ENFORCING THE POLICY. AND TO ME, THAT CREATES CONFLICT IN THE INTENTION OF THE POLICY AND THE EXECUTION OF AND HOW IT'S APPLIED TO THE ALLEGED VIOLATION. SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO HERE, THAT TO SEE SOME SORT OF TRAINING INVOLVED WITH THE POLICIES THAT ARE MORE ARE LIKELIER TO CREATE CONFLICT WITH THE ALLEGED OFFENDER, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE STORIES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED THAT YOU GUYS HAVE EXPERIENCED IN THE LIBRARY, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT IT TO BE SAFE FOR STAFF ALSO. SO I THINK JUST ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS POTENTIAL CONFLICTS THAT COME UP AS A RESULT OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF SOME OF THESE POLICIES. AND YOU TOUCHED ON THE WARMING AND COOLING CENTER. SO I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT, THAT THERE'S A TRIGGER IN PLACE THAT WILL SUPERSEDE THE LIBRARY POLICY. AND YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF WHAT WHAT I HAD TO SAY. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REACHED OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THIS PAST WEEK SINCE THE AGENDA WAS POSTED, BUT WHEN IT WAS ON THE LIBRARY BOARD AGENDA A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST I THINK IT'S SOMETHING AT LEAST WE SHOULD DISCUSS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN ORDER TO PREVENT SOME OF THESE THINGS. YEAH. JUST ONE OTHER TOUCH ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER HEIZER WAS TALKING ABOUT. YEAH, I WAS LOOKING AT THESE POLICIES AND THERE WERE SOME SOME OF THE

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STUFF LIKE NOW THAT YOU GOT THE EXPLANATION OF, YOU KNOW, SCOOTERS COMING IN, THINGS LIKE THAT, I WAS WORRIED THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT THEY USE FOR THE KIDS, RIGHT, TO BRING IN THEIR STROLLER, STUFF LIKE THAT. WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE VERBIAGE THERE. SO THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO DO. BRIAN, AS A CITY, I'M LOOKING AT PICTURES RIGHT NOW OF THE LIBRARY, AND I'M LOOKING AT HOW OUTDATED OUR BIKE SLOTS ARE. RIGHT? MAKING SURE WE UPDATE THOSE IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT SO WE CAN PEOPLE WILL BE MORE COMFORTABLE PUTTING THOSE OUT, SOMETHING MORE UPDATED, MAYBE SOMETHING WITH LOCKING MECHANISM THEY COULD LOCK AND BRING IN THEMSELVES IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW, MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A CITY TO HELP YOU OUT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD REALLY PUSH FOR, IS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UPDATING OUR OUR BIKE RACKS AND GETTING SOMETHING MORE CONVENTIONAL, THE OUTDATED, YOU KNOW, JUST SIMPLE WIRE IS WHAT I CALL THEM. WIRE RACKS ARE JUST NOT FEASIBLE ANYMORE. MAYBE EVEN CHARGING STATION FOR THOSE LITTLE ELECTRIC BIKES OR SCOOTERS. SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT AS WELL. SO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE USER FRIENDLY, MORE WANT TO BE LEAVE IT OUTSIDE THAN BRING IT INSIDE.

THE OTHER THING I LOOK AT SOME OF THE POLICIES. LOOK, I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST, FOR ME, A LIBRARY IS A SAFE PLACE. THAT'S HOW I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED AT LIBRARIES. THEY'RE A SAFE PLACE FOR EVERYONE. IT SHOULD BE INCLUSIVE. THEY SHOULD ALLOW EVERYONE TO COME IN AND PARTICIPATE. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ECONOMIC STATUS IS, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR RELIGION, WHO YOU ARE. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF. LIBRARIES BEING A SAFE PLACE AS A KID. KYLE. LIBRARY MICHAEL AND I USED TO COME ACROSS THE STREET THERE AND FROM KYLE ELEMENTARY AND GO AND READ BOOKS THERE, AND IT WAS A SAFE PLACE FOR US, YOU KNOW. SO IT WAS GREAT. I THINK THE SAME THING FOR KIDS, FOR EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEM.

SO POLICIES KIND OF SCARE ME SOMETIMES. SO I'M NOT GOING TO LIE. BUT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AS A CITY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN KEEP THE LIBRARY SAFE, MAYBE EVEN THINKING ABOUT LATER AS WE GROW AS A CITY SECURITY GUARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. NOT AN OFFICER, BUT A SECURITY GUARD. SOMEONE JUST TO HELP. OUR LIBRARIANS SHOULD NOT BE ENFORCING RULES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I. I WORRY ABOUT, Y'ALL. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL AREN'T THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING TO GO UP AND SAY SOMETHING, BUT MAKING SURE IT'S A REAL POLICY THAT STILL INCLUSIVE OF EVERYBODY ELSE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE KICKING PEOPLE OUT JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR ECONOMIC STATUS IS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE INCLUSIVE AND KEEP LIBRARIES WHAT THEY INTEND TO BE A PLACE OF LEARNING, A PLACE OF INCLUSION, PLACE OF WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, A SAFE PLACE. AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING. AND PROGRAMING, I MEAN, IT'S IMPORTANT, I MEAN, WHAT THE PROGRAMING LIBRARY IS BRINGING OUT AND ENHANCING THAT PROGRAMING AS WELL. EVERYTHING WE CAN DO, I KNOW WE'RE LIMITED FOR SPACE, SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'LL WORK ON IT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE DEEPER AND TAKE SOME DIVES, MAYBE EVEN GET TO TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS POLICY, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH OUR RULES, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT'S NON-COMPLIANT. AND BEFORE WE BRING IT OR VOTE ON THIS SO WE COULD TABLE THIS, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND JUST TO GET MORE LOOK AT IT.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT ABOUT REMOVING PEOPLE, BECAUSE I DID ASK JESSICA. AND IN THE TWO YEARS, A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS, SHE'S BEEN THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. SHE'S NEVER ASKED ANYONE TO TO BE REMOVED OR TO REMOVE ANYONE. I'VE BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND I'VE NOT DONE THAT EITHER. IT'S SOMETHING THAT STICKS. IT'S A CORE MEMORY THAT IF YOU EVER HAVE TO DO THAT, I'VE HAD A 20 PLUS YEAR LEADERSHIP IN LIBRARY CAREER, AND I'VE NEVER ASKED ANYONE TO LEAVE OR HAD TO FORCEFULLY REMOVE THEM. SO THE POLICIES ARE VERY MUCH A SAFETY NET FOR EVERYONE. AND SO I'M CONFUSED AND CONCERNED ABOUT WHY THAT'S OUT THERE, THAT WE'RE REMOVING PEOPLE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT. WE ARE MONITORING BEHAVIORS. SOMEONE'S LAYING DOWN IN THE AISLE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THEM TO GET UP. AND PEOPLE DO ASK US WILL SHOW US WHERE IT SAYS, WE CAN'T DO THIS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE WE HAVE THAT CONFLICT, IF YOU WILL.

AND IT'S IT'S TOUGH. LIKE YOU SAID, I'M TRYING TO THINK AND LOOKING AT THE VERBIAGE KIND OF FEELS LIKE WE'RE REMOVING PEOPLE. IT DID SCARE ME, I'M NOT GOING TO LIE. AND BUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE. I'D LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INFORMING THE COMMUNITY WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING. YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY GIVES ME A LITTLE MORE FORESIGHT ON WHAT YOUR INTENT IS, BUT I STILL LIKE TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE DEEPER, DIVE AND JUST MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING JUST SO WE HAVE A LITTLE TIME MORE. I'M SORRY. THIS THIS CAME UP A COUPLE. WE GOT THIS FOUR DAYS AGO, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THE TIME TO LOOK AT IT. I KNOW I HAVEN'T.

I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR COUNCIL, BUT I'D LIKE TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE ON THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE AND AND MAYBE SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND AMY AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN OUR LEGAL LIMITS. AND WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE BUILDING A GOOD POLICY AND NOT ONE THAT'S GOING TO EXCLUDE ANYBODY. SO IT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M HOPING. ON.

COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA, GO AHEAD. WE'LL JUST KEEP GOING THIS WAY. THANK YOU. LESLIE. YEAH, I CAN

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UNDERSTAND THE INTENTIONS. AND THERE ARE SOME GOOD INTENTIONS HERE. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT COULD SUPPORT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVY LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT DOES SCARE PEOPLE. I'M REALLY SENSITIVE ABOUT HOW WE TREAT OUR COMMUNITY. RESIDENTS REACHED OUT TO ME LAST WEEK. MY PHONE WAS BLOWING UP ABOUT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE LISTENED TO SOME OF THE EXPLANATIONS, BUT I HAVE TO PUT MYSELF IN THE SAFE SPACE THAT THE LIBRARY IS RIGHT.

AND FOR MANY PEOPLE, IT'S A PLACE OF DIGNITY FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T JUDGE SOMEONE BY THEIR SITUATION. THEY MAY NEED HELP, AND THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO. COOL OFF, SIT DOWN, EAT A SNACK, TRY TO APPLY FOR A JOB. THEY MAY HAVE TO BRUSH THEIR TEETH IN THE RESTROOM. I CANNOT BE THAT GUY THAT WOULD TELL SOMEONE, YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T BRUSH YOUR TEETH HERE OR YOU SMELL BAD. I MEAN, AND IF IF THIS IS COMING FROM FEAR OF OF PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THE LIBRARY BECAUSE MAYBE WHAT THEY'RE WEARING OR, OR MAYBE THEY MIGHT HAVE A PHYSICAL ABILITY OR MENTAL ABILITY THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. LIKE, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T TREAT PEOPLE WHO MAY LOOK DIFFERENT OR ACT DIFFERENTLY WITH LESS DIGNITY. YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE RESPECTFUL PLACES. BUT THEY HAVE. BUT EVERYONE HAS TO SHOW RESPECT FROM STAFF TO THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE LIBRARY. RIGHT. AND LIBRARIES MEAN SO MUCH TO ME, RIGHT? THEY'VE GIVEN ME OPPORTUNITIES. SO FOR ME, FOR ME, I SEE THIS AS VERY RESTRICTIVE TO TELL SOMEONE THEY'RE LAYING DOWN THAT THEY NEED TO GET UP AND LEAVE. I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A GRIEVANCE POLICY. SO IF SOMEONE DOES FEEL THAT THEY WERE.

PICKED ON, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO FILE GRIEVANCE AND WE SHOULD KNOW, WAS IT FAIR OR WAS IT UNFAIR? WAS IT PREJUDICED OR UNPREJUDICED? RIGHT. SO I'M TRYING TO BE CAREFUL OF NOT.

GIVE LESS DIGNITY TO PEOPLE. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY MAY JUST NEED HELP. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THERE. AND IF WE DON'T, IF WE SEE THEM, IT'S BECAUSE MAYBE THEY'RE ASKING FOR HELP IN SOME WAY AND FOR US TO TURN THEM AWAY AND SAY, YOU'RE NOT WELCOME HERE. THAT'S THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME. RIGHT? RIGHT. JUST AS A PERSON. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE. RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO SO THAT'S WHERE I HAVE TO SAY, WELL, I HAVE TO STAND UP FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN, HOW I WOULD TREAT SOMEONE AND I WOULDN'T TREAT SOMEONE LIKE THAT. AND WHAT ALSO NEED TO BRING UP IS WHO FUNDED THIS LIBRARY, RIGHT. ALL TAXPAYERS FUNDED IT. AND I'VE HEARD STORIES THAT IT WASN'T EVEN CITY FUNDED. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE, BUT WHOEVER FOUNDED THIS LIBRARY AND GOT THE DONATIONS TO BUILD IT, MAYBE THAT WAS NOT THEIR INTENTION THAT THAT WE EXCLUDE PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE POLICY FEELS RESTRICTIVE AND WE HAVE TO. I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT, DID CITY DOLLARS PAY FOR ALL OF THIS LIBRARY? IF NOT, THEN HOW CAN WE SAY THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE CAN'T USE IT? SO, AND I DON'T I'M JUST TRYING TO BE VERY CLEAR. WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. THE FUNDING HISTORY. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. RIGHT. YES. CITY DOLLARS PAID FOR IT.

$2,013 YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IN THE 1960S WHEN A VERY WEALTHY AND ADMIRABLE MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY GAVE LARGE DONATION ANONYMOUSLY TO HELP FUND THE FORMER LIBRARY, AND IT WAS A DONATION TO THE CITY. AND THEN WHEN THE WE LEFT THAT IT WAS GIVEN, WE NO LONGER OWNED THAT PROPERTY. AND I KNOW MANY RESIDENTS USE THE LIBRARY TO THAT'S THEIR PLACE TO GO.

TEENAGERS WILL USE IT, KIDS WILL MISBEHAVE. THEY'LL BE KIDS. THEY'LL RUN AROUND. SO THERE ARE SOME RULES THAT WE NEED, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY PLACE THEY FEEL SAFE, THAT WHERE THEY CAN LIVE A NORMAL LIFE AND BE AROUND PEOPLE AND SEE THINGS. RIGHT. AND THAT MIGHT BE HOW THEY WANT TO GO AND SPEND SOME OF THEIR DAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO GO TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES. THEY'LL BE SHUT OUT. RIGHT? THERE'S A PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY WHO I WAS TOLD RIDES A BICYCLE EVERY DAY, HAS HAS ALZHEIMER'S OR SOMETHING, DOWN SYNDROME. AND HE GETS A PIECE OF FOOD SAME TIME EVERY DAY FROM THE OWNER OF THE RESTAURANT. THAT'S THOSE

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ARE THE STORIES THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, THOSE ARE PEOPLE WE HAVE TO HELP. AND THIS TO ME IS MORE ABOUT HELPING. I THINK MISS SCOTT WAS TRYING TO RESPOND TO YOU EARLIER. DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT OR JUST KEEP GOING? SORRY, SORRY. AND I DON'T MEAN I DON'T WRITE. I DON'T MEAN TO BE HARD ON YOU. YEAH, NO, IT'S TOTALLY FINE. BUT I THINK ALSO IN ONE INFRACTION DOESN'T MEAN WE REMOVE SOMEBODY FROM THE LIBRARY. IT MEANS THAT WE CAN JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM. AND THAT CONVERSATION ABSOLUTELY CAN LEAD TO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHERE WE FIND OUT HOW CAN WE ASSIST? MANY TIMES IF WE WOULD SEE SOMEONE LAYING DOWN. YOUR FIRST INSTINCT IS DO YOU NEED ASSISTANCE? DO YOU NEED HELP? ARE YOU INJURED? AND THEN IS IT GOING TO INJURE SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S JUST WALKING DOWN THE AISLE AS WELL? BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY INFRACTION LISTS LIKE IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION.

BUT IF YOU AND WE HAVE WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO COME TO US AND SAY, WILL YOU TAKE CARE OF THIS? AND IT PUTS US IN A SITUATION OF HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF IT IF IT'S NOT IN THE POLICIES? AND WHEN WE DO MENTION WE DO HAVE PATRONS AND CUSTOMERS THAT SAY, SHOW US WHERE IT'S IN THE POLICY. AND SO THAT'S WHY FOR OUR POLICY PACKET, ALTHOUGH IT IS PROBABLY SHOCKINGLY LONG TO YOU BECAUSE IT IS A FIRST TIME POLICY, THESE ARE ALL COMMON WITH ALL OF OUR BENCHMARK CITIES AND ACROSS THE NATION. AND IN FACT, DURING ONE OF THE LIBRARY BOARD MEETINGS, ONE OF THEM SAID THAT THEY'RE USED TO THEY'VE SEEN 45 AND 50 PAGE POLICIES. AND SO WE'RE NOT THAT HUGE CITY THAT NEEDS TO DO THAT. NOR ARE WE THE CITY THAT WANTS TO BE THAT RESTRICTIVE. BUT I WELCOME THAT WE WORK THROUGH THESE. ABSOLUTELY. I KNOW OTHER OTHERS OF YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ASK OR SAY AS WELL. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS, ONE OF THE POLICIES THAT I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE DISTRIBUTION OF LITERATURE. YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY SHOULD BE A FREE AND OPEN SPACE FOR DISCUSSION AND IDEAS, FREE FLOW OF IDEAS. I WOULD NOT OBJECT TO HAVING PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE LIBRARY WITH BROCHURES OR INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN HAND OUT. I THINK WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO IS RESTRICT THEM TO TO NOT BE. HOW WOULD I WORD THAT? NOT GRABBING PEOPLE OUT, NOT HOLLERING TO PEOPLE, COME OVER HERE AND SEE ME, BUT MAYBE HAVE A TABLE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT'S THERE THAT PEOPLE CAN APPROACH THEM. AND I WOULD SAY THE ONLY RESTRICTION I, I THINK I WOULD PUT ON THAT IS THAT WE WILL NOT TOLERATE HATE SPEECH. OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S JUST A FREE FLOW OF IDEAS. IT'S RELIGIOUS GROUPS WANT TO COME OVER THERE LIKE THEY DO AT THE CORNER OF OF MARY CULBERTSON PARK. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. IF POLITICAL GROUPS WANT TO STAND OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CANDIDATES WANTS TO STAND OUT THERE AND LET PEOPLE COME UP AND TALK TO THEM. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HATE SPEECH. ANYONE THAT IS PROMULGATING HATE OR DESTRUCTIVE OR VIOLENT BEHAVIOR BETTER THAN THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE A FREE FLOW OF IDEAS. COUNCILMEMBER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? TOBIAS HAS BEEN WAITING VERY PATIENTLY.

WELL, WE'RE GOING DOWN. WE'RE GOING. EVERYBODY WANTED TO SPEAK, SO WE'RE JUST GOING DOWN THE ROAD. EVERYBODY. I'LL JUST SUM UP REALLY QUICKLY. I'VE HAD A HANDFUL OF PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T FEEL WELCOME AT OUR LIBRARY, AND IT'S KIND OF HEARTBREAKING. AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME LEVEL OF BUREAUCRACY, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S EXCLUDING OUR RESIDENTS FROM BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND I KNOW YOU DON'T EITHER. YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW YOU'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO, AND I LOVE THAT. AND I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE YOU AT ALL, BUT I WANT US TO, I DON'T KNOW, ON THE SIDE OF INCLUSIVITY ON SOME OF THESE WHEN WE CAN. YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU WELL ENOUGH THAT I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT. YOU KNOW, YOU YOU DO A GOOD JOB. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT OUR RESIDENTS FEEL THAT, TOO. AND AND I'M I'M HEARING FROM INDIVIDUALS, GROUPS THAT THEY'RE JUST NOT FEELING THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE. AS FAR AS LIKE THE, THE WHEELED RECREATION THINGS, I THINK THAT WE CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES FOR EVERYBODY TO DRIVE THERE. I, I DON'T KNOW IF A SKATEBOARD COMING INSIDE THE LIBRARY DOES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DAMAGE. AND I CAN SEE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIKES AND THE, YOU KNOW, MOTORIZED SCOOTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE TEAR THINGS UP PRETTY QUICKLY. BUT I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH A SOLUTION WHERE THEY CAN STORE THOSE SAFELY AND SECURELY AND FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING THOSE OUTSIDE. I MEAN, I WAS I

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GREW UP IN THE LIBRARY, YOU KNOW, I WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS TEN YEARS OLD, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, I HAD TO GO LIVE WITH MY GRANDPARENTS, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ENERGY TO KEEP UP WITH THE TEN YEAR OLD. AND, AND I, I WALKED A LITTLE OVER TWO MILES TO MY LIBRARY, AND I WAS THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY. THEY KNEW ME ON A FIRST NAME BASIS. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN A LIBRARY CARD AT OUR LIBRARY AT TEN BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A PARENT THAT WAS THERE TO TO SIGN ME UP. I MEAN, THEY TOOK PITY ON ME AND, YOU KNOW, TRUSTED ME WITH I THINK I WAS ABLE TO TAKE HOME FOUR BOOKS THAT FIRST DAY. AND I READ THEM ALL THE FIRST DAY, AND I BROUGHT THEM BACK THE NEXT DAY.

AND I, I WANT OUR YOUTH TO HAVE THAT SAME EXPERIENCE. IT WAS A BIG PART OF MY FORMATIVE YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY ENCOURAGED ME TO READ. I, YOU KNOW, STILL AN AVID READER TO THIS DAY. IT'S ALWAYS JUST STRIVING FOR INFORMATION. I WANT US TO ENCOURAGE OUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH.

AND I'LL I'LL TRY TO BE REAL BRIEF ON THIS. AND IT HITS A POINT. WHEN WE HAD THAT VISIT WITH THE CONSULTANT THE OTHER DAY WITH ZUNIGA AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY MORE, AND THEY WERE ASKING US QUESTIONS ABOUT SURVEYS AND WHAT ARE THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE NOT SHOWING UP TO THE LIBRARY AND SO FORTH. AND THEN AND THEN WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, I'M LIKE, WOW, THERE'S A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS I SEE THAT IS IN PLACE. I SEE BOTH SIDES. OKAY. I'M LETTING YOU KNOW. I'M SEEING BOTH SIDES. I SEE THE SIDE WHERE YOUR STAFF PROBABLY HAS TO DEAL WITH SOME PEOPLE THERE THAT MAYBE ARE USING THE BATHROOM AS A BATHING LOCATION. AND I DO SEE THAT BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY MENTIONED IN HERE THAT SOMEBODY IS NOT MAKE SURE THAT WHERE DID THEY HAVE IT? RIGHT HERE. IT SAYS UNDER ATTIRE, A CUSTOMER MAY NOT ENTER AND REMAIN IN A LIBRARY IN A BATHING SUIT. SO THAT TELLS ME THAT PROBABLY HAPPENED. CORRECT. OKAY. OR CLOTHING THAT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT DOES NOT COVER UPPER OR LOWER TORSO, TORSO OR WITHOUT SHOES. SO HOW ARE YOUR STAFF APPROACH THAT? HOW IS YOUR YOUR STAFF GOING TO BE TRAINED AND JUDGE THE PERSON? NOT SO MUCH. DO THAT. SAY THERE IS A MAN OR THERE IS A YOUNG GIRL THERE THAT HAS HER TORSO SHOWING. I NEED TO GO ADDRESS THAT. WHERE DOES THAT BECOME? DOES THAT BECOME A LEGAL ISSUE? NOW? IT'S THE SAME THING WITH B NUMBER B, A CUSTOMER MAY NOT ENTER AND REMAIN IN THE LIBRARY IF HE ADMITS A STRONG ODOR DUE TO PERFUME, COLOGNE OR OTHER REASONS. WELL, I'M OUT THERE. THAT WOULD BE OFFENSIVE TO A PERSON'S ORDINARY SENSITIVITIES. HOW WOULD YOUR STAFF APPROACH THAT? A MAN OR A YOUNG LADY COMING IN FROM A CONSTRUCTION JOB THAT JUST CAME IN DIRTY, WHATEVER. TURNING IN A BOOK, HOW DO WE ADDRESS IT THEN? AND THEN LET ME GO BACK UP HERE TO THE ANIMALS AREA. IT'S IT'S BASICALLY STRAIGHT OUT A CUSTOMER MAY NOT BRING AN ANIMAL INTO THE LIBRARY UNLESS THE CUSTOMER HAS A SERVICE ANIMAL. WHERE'S THE LEGALITY ON THAT? ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN IDENTIFICATION ON THE ANIMAL? BECAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROCESS. BUT I HEAR PEOPLE COULD SAY, LOOK, HERE'S MY CAT, IT'S MY EMOTIONAL ANIMAL, AND I'M JUST GOING TO WALK IN WITH IT. OR HERE'S MY PET SNAKE THAT I THIS MAKES ME FEEL COMFORTABLE WHEN I'M AROUND PEOPLE. DOES THAT BECOME OFFENSIVE TO PEOPLE, OR WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE TO SAY, I'M SORRY, YOU GOT A SNAKE HERE OR A CAT? YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED IN THE BUILDING. AND BECAUSE THESE ARE RULES THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING AND IT GOES. SAME THING WITH THE FOOD. I GET IT. PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY BRINGING IN FOOD, LEAVING TRASH AND SO FORTH, LAYING DOWN, SLEEPING, SITTING ON THE COUCH. I GET IT, IT COULD BE A HYGIENE ISSUE FOR ALL WE KNOW, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S JUST HOW WOULD YOUR STAFF APPROACH THOSE SITUATIONS VERSUS HEY, NO MORE SLEEPING, YOU NEED TO GET UP OR YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT OR SORRY, COULD YOU PLEASE SIT UP? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T. WE HAVE A SIGN. SO I THINK SIGNAGES COULD LOOK COULD HELP, ESPECIALLY RIGHT BY THE COUCHES. HE SAYS, PLEASE, NO LAYING DOWN OR SLEEPING ON THE COUCHES, BATHROOMS. THE SAME WAY YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND PUT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE UTILIZE THE BATHROOM FOR ITS PURPOSE. NO, NO SHAVING WHATEVER TO KEEP THE BATHROOM CLEAN. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION. I THINK APPROACHING IT IN THAT WAY, I THINK COULD COULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT THAT YOUR STAFF IS GOING THROUGH. YES. SIGNAGE WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO TO SHOW THAT

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THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE POLICY SAYS. AND SO THEN WE PUT THAT OUT THERE. PLEASE KEEP YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR FACE TIME CONVERSATION TO A MINIMUM BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S SURE AND EVERYONE CAN I WAS THERE A MONTH AGO AND THERE WERE SOME KIDS THAT WERE RUNNING AROUND AND I WAS TRYING TO FOCUS AND MY DAUGHTER WAS THERE. AND AND I GET IT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUMPING AROUND AND AND YOUR YOUR STAFF WAS JUST KIND OF LOOKING AND LOOKING AT THE PARENT AND THE PARENTS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MINDING THEIR OWN. I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND. THAT'S WHY I'M SEEING BOTH SIDES OF THIS. THE, THE, THE PART OF IT ALL. BUT BUT IN THE OVERALL I THINK TO EVERYBODY HERE, WE WANT TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY LIBRARY VERY OPENING AND WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO UTILIZE THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FINDING THAT BALANCE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS I'LL TELL YOU. AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF MY YEARS I TALK TO MY WIFE ABOUT CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS. NEVER. AND BUT MY WIFE HAPPENS TO BE A LIBRARIAN. AND SO I DID TALK TO HER. AND SHE HAD A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS. AND SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A LIBRARIAN, I CAN TELL YOU THINK ABOUT THINK ABOUT THIS. WHAT ARE LIBRARIES KNOWN FOR? THEIR RULES SHOULD.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE NEED TO WE NEED TO BACK UP AND TRY TO GET OUR TO GET JUST AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF A FRAMEWORK AROUND WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS. BECAUSE WHAT I HEAR FROM EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES IS A BLEEDING HEART FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A GOOD THING, RIGHT? EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE TO FOR OUR LIBRARY TO BE INCLUSIVE. WE HAVE A VERY POPULAR LIBRARY, AND YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW INCLUSIVE IT IS BECAUSE AND GREAT IT IS.

OUTSIDE OF A PHONE CALL YOU MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN, IT IS THE HIGHEST RATED AND HIGHEST REVIEWED FROM A STANDPOINT OF CUSTOMER SATISFACTION OUTSIDE OF OUR MUNICIPAL COURT, WHICH IS STRANGE THAT THAT WE HAVE. SO HOW MANY HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU SERVE EVERY YEAR? I MEAN, MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING IN. SO I SPENT IRONICALLY, NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS. I KIND OF FORGOT THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA, BUT I SPENT FIVE HOURS IN THE LIBRARY TODAY, AND I CAN TELL YOU WITH CERTAINTY THAT IF WE IF AS IF THIS COUNCIL SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING RULES IN THE LIBRARY. SO WE WANT TO WE WANT TO SEND THAT MESSAGE. NO RULES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADOPT ANY STANDARDS. YOU'RE SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE STAFF. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

YOU'RE LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY IN THEIR LIBRARY TO ENFORCE ANY KIND OF RULES. AND I CAN TELL YOU, THERE'S NOT ONE LIBRARIAN THAT YOU'RE EVER GOING TO MEET.

WHO'S GOING TO SAY THAT THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO HANDLE THAT? BECAUSE IT IS A CONSTANT REVOLVING DOOR OF ALL MANNER OF PEOPLE. NOW, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT OUR STAFF IS FRIENDLY OR WHETHER OR NOT OUR LIBRARY IS GENERALLY INCLUSIVE IS ONE CONVERSATION, AND THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE RULES IN OUR LIBRARY IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION. SO MY ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY IN THIS DOCUMENT, IF YOU THINK THERE IS A SPECIFIC RULE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE, LIKE POTENTIALLY THE ODOR ISSUE, I COULD SEE THAT BEING A GOOD ONE TO TO TAKE OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS AS IT RELATES TO THE DISCRETION. BECAUSE IF YOU AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE SOMETHING OUT, THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH REAL WORLD PROBLEMS THAT ARE COMING IN ON A DAILY BASIS. AND IT'S LIKE MISS SCOTT HAS MENTIONED 2 OR 3 TIMES NOW, VERY KINDLY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A RULE, THEY CANNOT GO AND DEAL WITH A PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM HAS POWER OVER THEM, AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A LIBRARY WHERE THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO DEAL WITH A PROBLEM. SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I WAS THERE EARLIER. THERE'S A KID RUNNING AROUND, MOM'S ON THE OTHER END. I IF THE IDEA IS IF YOU THINK THAT OH, NOW THE LIBRARY IS IMMEDIATELY GOING TO GO, LIKE, KICK THAT PERSON OUT OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, THEY'VE MADE THE CASE VERY CLEARLY. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE'S EVER BEEN KICKED OUT OF OUR LIBRARY.

SO WE'RE USING STRAW MAN ARTICLES TO AVOID ALLOWING STAFF TO HAVE RULES AND PUT UP SIGNS AND PREVENT CERTAIN BEHAVIOR THAT NEEDS TO BE PREVENTED BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST AN INCLUSIVE PLACE, IT'S ALSO A LIBRARY WHERE PEOPLE ARE TAKING TESTS, THEY'RE DOING CLASSES.

THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF PROGRAMING GOING ON STUDYING, RESEARCH. YOU HAVE TO HAVE RULES IN A LIBRARY. SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO PASS THIS, BUT I YOU KNOW, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND ON THE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE OR IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO FREELY HAND OUT LITERATURE AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND, YOU KNOW, SOLICIT FOR BUSINESS AND ALL THAT, I GUESS THAT'S FINE. BUT WE AT LEAST NEED TO ALLOW FOR OUR STANCE TO BE CLEAR, SO THAT WE DON'T JUST SEND THE LIBRARY BACK WITH NO ANSWERS AS TO HOW TO DEAL WITH THE MYRIAD OF PROBLEMS AND CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A POLICY THAT'S EVEN ON PAR WITH EVERY OTHER PUBLIC LIBRARY IN THE REGION. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST KICK IT BACK TO

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YOU ONE MORE TIME AND SAY, DO WE REALLY WANT TO JUST TABLE THIS AND SEND IT BACK? OR DO WE WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE A LOOK AT ANY OF THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS AND TAKE VOTES ON IT AND GIVE THEM THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY NEED? MAYOR PRO TEM YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO WANT TO SOLVE THIS TONIGHT, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE I HAVE A SENSE THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO GO THROUGH THESE INDIVIDUALLY, TO DECIDE WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK WE WANT TO PROVIDE AND THAT WE ALL AGREE ON. SO. I THINK THE BEST OPTION FOR US, AND ESPECIALLY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MEETING, IS OPTION THREE TO ADVISE STAFF AND THE LIBRARY BOARD TO REVISE THE POLICY BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE PROVIDED HERE ON THE DIAS TONIGHT, AND TO COME BACK AND PRESENT IT AT A LATER DATE. SO WITH THAT, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TO GO WITH OPTION THREE, ADVISE STAFF AND LIBRARY BOARD TO REVISE POLICY AND PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE. SO I'LL SECOND THAT. BUT I WANT TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON IT. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO, THAT WE ADVISE STAFF TO TABLE THE ITEM AND BRING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE. A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION, MR. LANGLEY? YES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AND OPTIONS ABOUT EACH OF THESE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. I BELIEVE THE MAKERSPACE IS GETTING READY TO OPEN, AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT POLICY AND CONSIDER AT LEAST ADOPTING THAT POLICY THIS EVENING SO WE COULD OPEN THAT SPACE. LESLIE, I KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO OPEN THAT. EXACTLY. THERE'S A COUPLE ON HERE THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH BEHAVIOR, IF YOU WILL, UNDER THAT LIBRARY USE. SO THE MAKERSPACE, WE'RE SO EXCITED TO LAUNCH IT. WE WE ARE UNABLE TO LAUNCH IT WITHOUT A POLICY. AND WE ARE ACTUALLY REMOVING BARRIERS TO UTILIZE IT. AS FAR AS THE 3D PRINTING BEING FREE AND HAVING LAB HOURS TO VISIT, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT ONE FORWARD.

THE DISPLAYS AND EXHIBIT POLICIES. WE HAVE HAD ORGANIZATIONS THAT PARTNER WITH THE CITY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MEET MORE, OR OFFER A TABLING OF THE MASTER GARDENERS, OR THOSE ONE OF THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TABLE MORE OFTEN THAN ONCE QUARTERLY. THAT WOULD BE ALSO A GENEROUS ADDITION OR ADDITION. WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR THE FOR THAT. ALSO THE TEXSHARE POLICY THAT IS JUST ALIGNING THAT ONE YEAR ANNUAL CARD AND THE BLOCKED ACCOUNTS WE CAN EITHER COME BACK TO OR THAT ONE AS WELL. BUT REALLY, THE MAKERSPACE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE TEXSHARE BEING ALIGNED. THAT'S A TEXAS STATE WIDE. AND THEN THE AND THE DISPLAYS AND EXHIBITS TO ALLOW FOR TABLING. OKAY. BEHAVIOR ISSUES. WE COULD CERTAINLY COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION IF PERHAPS IF THERE'S 1 OR 2 THINGS YOU WANT TO PROVIDE DIRECTION ON OR JUST A GENERAL DISCUSSION, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO STILL GO WITH OPTION THREE, BUT TO STIPULATE THAT THIS MOTION WILL APPROVE THE NEW POLICIES AROUND MAKERSPACE TEXSHARE POLICIES AND TABLING SECOND SECOND. I HAD A SECOND. YEAH. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S AMENABLE TO THE SECOND. THE MOTION, THE NEW MOTIONS TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK REVISIONS ON THE BEHAVIOR BASED ITEMS, BUT TO APPROVE THE ITEMS AS STATED. IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? COUNCILMAN RUSSO? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE REVISIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE WE'RE UPDATING OUR POLICIES. THAT'S IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW, I JUST KIND OF FEEL LIKE I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY VISIT THESE POLICIES AND REALLY MAKE A DEEP DIVE. HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOURSELF, WITH AMY, SOMETHING I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MOVING FORWARD. I'D BE OKAY WITH THIS COMING BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IF WE WANTED TO. JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE CLEAR LANGUAGE ON THIS, BECAUSE I DID GET QUITE A FEW PHONE CALLS, EVEN AFTER I HAD WRITTEN HAD READ IT. SO. BUT THIS HAS NO REFLECTION ON WHAT YOU ALL DO AS A LIBRARY. I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HEAVY HANDED KICKING PEOPLE OUT, YOU KNOW, THROWING PEOPLE THROUGH THE DOOR, OUT THE DOOR OR OUT THE WINDOW. I KNOW THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. SO BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS JUST BEING CAREFUL. I MEAN, TO ME, LIBRARIES ARE A SAFE PLACE. SO I WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR LIBRARY IS A SAFE PLACE FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUSIVE TO EVERYBODY. SO IT'S IMPORTANT. BUT I'M GOOD WITH THE REVISION AND THE JUST MAKING SURE WE BRING BACK A POLICY THAT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH. AND I, I'M NOT AGAINST RULES. LOOK, HONESTLY, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE RULES. AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON THE RULES. WE DO. BECAUSE SOMETIMES RULES CAN BE OVERBEARING. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN. JUST MAKING SURE. SO MOVING FORWARD, SHOULD WE EACH ONE OF US TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLICY. AND IF WE WANT TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF THE VERBIAGE OR JUST HAVE CLARIFICATION, SHOULD WE SEND IT TO BOTH OF YOU AT A LIKE IN

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AN EMAIL FORM? AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION. THAT WAY WE HAVE THE TIME TO LOOK OVER IT AND THEN SAY, I LOOKED AT THIS HERE, THIS IS WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING. OR LIKE, LIKE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, ANIMALS NUMBER A CHANGE. THE VERBIAGE IN MY OPINION, SAY SERVICE ANIMALS ARE WELCOMED IF THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE WHAT IS IT, DOG COLLAR OR WHAT'S BARK? YEAH, WHATEVER IT IS, THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC RULES ON SERVICE ANIMALS. AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE THOSE AS CLEARLY AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S ALL IT IS. IT'S JUST MAYBE CHANGING THE WORDING ON IT. THAT'S THE WAY THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M REALLY LOOKING AT. SO COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS. YES. IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC SUGGESTION OR OR OPTION THAT YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER, PLEASE SEND US, ME AND LESLIE AND EMAIL. WE'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. I THINK WE HEARD A FEW THINGS FROM EACH OF YOU. I DON'T THINK THERE ARE MANY THINGS, HONESTLY, BUT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND COME BACK WITH SOME POTENTIAL OPTIONS AND LANGUAGE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. WE MAY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. I'M NOT SURE THE 21ST THAT WE CAN BE BACK WITH THAT, BUT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND BRING IT BACK AS SOON AS IT'S PRACTICAL TO GET IT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE RULES, SO IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING. THAT'S WHY MAYBE THE 21ST. BUT IF IT'S THE FOLLOWING MEETING AFTER THAT, THAT'S FINE AS WELL. BUT LOOK, HONESTLY, YOU'RE CONFINED TO SPACE AND THAT'S WHY YOU NEED THESE RULES. BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE SPACE THAT YOU NEED TO OPERATE A REALLY GOOD LIBRARY. YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE QUIET ZONES, WE HAVE KIDS ZONES. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT SPACE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING AS A DIOCESE OR A CITY, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ADDRESS MOVING FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU THE SPACE. SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THOSE ZONES FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE, EVEN TEENAGERS. EVERYBODY DESERVES A SPACE SO QUIET ZONES AS WELL, SO WELL. AND WE'RE AS I THINK AS, AS WE MENTIONED THIS EVENING, WE WANT IT TO BE AN INCLUSIVE SPACE. I KNOW THE COUNCIL WANTS THAT. WE WANT IT TO BE AN OPENING, WELCOMING SPACE. BUT THAT MEANS FOR EVERYONE. AND SOME OF THESE THINGS DO HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO YOU CAN HAVE EVERYONE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THE SPACE. AND THAT'S THE BALANCE ON THESE THESE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE. SOMETIMES SOME BEHAVIOR INTERFERES WITH THE OTHER'S ABILITY TO ENJOY THE SPACE. AND SO THAT'S THE BALANCE AND THE DANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE ON THESE. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND BRING IT BACK.

THANK YOU PRESENTATION. AND JUST KNOW THIS IS NOT AGAINST YOU OR THE STAFF. IT WAS JUST SOMETIMES THE VERBIAGE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND THERE'S A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING. I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT REACH OUT TO ME LATER AS WELL. AND JUST YOU GAVE SOME GOOD CLARIFICATION, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THE POLICY REFLECTS THAT IS IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU. AND WE CAN ADD THAT IN ABOUT THE EOC TAKING PRECEDENCE OVER THE THOSE SECTIONS AS WELL. COOLING, WARMING. OH GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY. ARE WE SURE THAT WE CAN'T POWER THROUGH THIS, RESOLVE THIS AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD? I WANT TO LOOK AT IT FURTHER, AND I WANT TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH AMY AS WELL ON THESE POLICIES. SO ANY MORE TIME I GET THAT, I NEED MORE TIME. I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T WE'RE NOT WHOLESALE REJECTING ALL OF THESE. I THINK IT'S 1 OR 2, AND I FIGURED WE COULD AGREE ON THOSE AND GO ON. BUT IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, I'LL DEFINITELY NEED MORE TIME. THANK YOU. FAIR ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL

[23) Consider approval of a resolution authorizing a memorandum of understanding between the City of Kyle and City of Buda for participation in animal care facilities and operations.]

RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 23. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND CITY OF BUDA FOR PARTICIPATION IN ANIMAL CARE FACILITIES AND OFFER. MR. ELIZONDO. OH, THIS IS MISS HARRIS. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THIS IS NEW BRINGING BUDA IN. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW, HAVE WE APPROACHED THEM BEFORE? HAVE HAVE APPROACHED US? I WANT TO KNOW THE IMPACT, BECAUSE IT WILL PROBABLY NEED US TO INCREASE THE SPACE THAT WE'VE DESIGNED IN THAT BUILDING AND WHAT THE FINANCIAL AGREEMENT WOULD BE WITH THEM. SURE, IT WON'T BE A TREMENDOUS INCREASE ON SPACE, BUT I CAN RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION FOR ANYONE WATCHING VERY QUICKLY. THERE'S ONLY A FEW SLIDES. THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CITY OF KYLE AND THE CITY OF BUDA IN RELATION TO THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY THAT WE'RE BUILDING, JUST FOR ANYONE WATCHING VERY QUICKLY THAT MAY NOT KNOW WE'RE GETTING KICKED OUT OF THE OUR INTERLOCAL WITH SAN MARCOS REGIONAL, AS ARE ALL THEIR PARTNERS IN 2026. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE LEARNED ABOUT THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND WE WE STARTED A FEASIBILITY STUDY RIGHT AWAY. WE'VE COMPLETED THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY. THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WE DID WAS PURELY FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. WHILE WE WERE DOING THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE WERE APPROACHED BY NOT ONLY THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO THE CITY OF BUDA. THIS THIS COUNCIL ADOPTED THE MOU WITH THE COUNTY ON AUGUST 5TH, AND THE COUNTY ADOPTED THAT MOU ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. SO THAT'S COMPLETELY ADOPTED BY BOTH SIDES. WHILE WE WERE DOING THAT, WE WERE IN TALKS WITH THE CITY OF BUDA BACK AND FORTH. THEY LET US KNOW RIGHT AWAY THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US. IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO NAIL DOWN SOME OF THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM. NOT NOT ON THEIR PART FOR ANY REASON, JUST GETTING BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM. WE HAVE A VERY SIMILAR MOU, THE SAME AS THE COUNTY FOR THEM. HOWEVER, THE

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COUNTY OBVIOUSLY WITH MUCH LARGER INTAKE THAT THEY HAVE AND THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT THEY HAVE HAD A MUCH LARGER PIECE OF THE FACILITY. THIS IS OUR FACILITY YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN. HERE'S CONCEPTS FROM THE FEASIBILITY. IF YOU REMEMBER, IN THE MOU FOR HAYS, THE HAYS COUNTY PARTNERSHIP, THEIR MULTIPLIER WAS AT 64.5%, WHICH IS FOR BOTH CAPITAL COSTS AND OPERATIONS. THIS IS MUCH, MUCH SMALLER MULTIPLIER, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT'S SMALLER INTAKE NUMBERS THAT WERE RESEARCHED IN OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY THROUGH BUDA, BUT ALSO BECAUSE THE TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN ARE MUCH MORE DOMESTIC. THEY DON'T WE DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE LARGE SEIZURES, SEIZURES OR EVENTS LIKE THE COUNTY DOES. SO THEY'RE MULTIPLIERS COME OUT TO ABOUT 2.8% FOR THE CAPITAL COSTS THAT WILL BE INCURRED.

AND THEN ONGOING OPERATIONS ABOUT 2.4 THE OPERATIONS IN THE MOU WILL BE EVALUATED EVERY YEAR BASED ON INTAKE. SO THOSE MIGHT CHANGE BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE AS FAIR FOR EACH PARTNER AS POSSIBLE. I WILL SAY THAT WHILE THIS MOU IS HERE TONIGHT, IT'S ALSO WITH THE BUDA CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT AS WELL. SO IF BOTH PASS, IT'LL IT'LL BE PASSED ALL TONIGHT TOGETHER.

AND THEN OUR TIMELINE FOR THIS IS HOPEFULLY OCTOBER 22ND. IF WE CAN'T MAKE THE 20 I MEAN 21ST. IF WE CAN'T MAKE THE 21ST IT'LL BE IN NOVEMBER. WE WANT TO BRING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR BOTH BUDA AND THE COUNTY, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE DETAILED DOCUMENT FOR PAYMENTS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT THE MOU OUTLINES, BUT WITH THE FULL DESIGN CONTRACT OF JACKSON AND RYAN AT THAT SAME DATE. SO WE'LL OUTLINE EVERYTHING ALL TOGETHER AND HOPEFULLY GET ALL PASSED AND GET STARTED ON FULL DESIGN FOR THE FOR THE ANIMAL ANIMAL CARE CENTER AND THEN CONSTRUCTION AFTER THAT IN 20. THAT SHOULD SAY. YEAH, 2627 FOR THE COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION. STARTING CONSTRUCTION 2526. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. IT'S A IT'S A MUCH SMALLER GROUP. THE THE DESIGN CONTRACT BECAUSE IT WAS INITIALLY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS JUST FOR WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THE DESIGN CONTRACT HAS BUILT INTO IT TO TAKE THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY AND DO SOME SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH AND DO SOME LITTLE EXTRA WORK. NOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT TO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE INCORPORATING NOT ONLY ALL OF THE HAYS COUNTY ANIMALS, BUT ALSO THE BUDA ANIMALS IN THAT AREA THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF. SO THERE'LL BE A LITTLE ADDED ELEMENT OF OF PUBLIC INPUT AND EVALUATION OF NUMBERS BEFORE THEY GO INTO FULL DESIGN SO THAT THE FACILITY WILL BE DESIGNED PROPERLY FOR THE NEXT 20 PLUS YEARS. THAT DOES ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR AT LEAST A GOOD YEAR NOW. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, DOCTOR HARRIS. THIS DID COME AS A SURPRISE THAT BUDA NOW SHOWS AN INTEREST, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY AS PART OF THE CITY'S REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP STRATEGY, THE CITY OF BUDA HAS EXPRESSED FORMAL INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING NOW IN THIS NEW FACILITY. THIS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OUTLINES BUDDHA'S INTENT TO JOIN. KYLE OWNED AND OPERATED FACILITY UNDER AGREED UPON COST ALLOCATIONS. PER THE TERMS, BUDA WILL CONTRIBUTE A ONE TIME CAPITAL COST BASED OF THE MULTIPLIER, HE SAID 2.8% AND SHARE ANNUAL OPERATION COSTS 2.4, SUBJECT TO AN ANNUAL INTAKE REASSESSMENT. KYLE WILL RETAIN FULL OWNERSHIP AND OPERATIONAL CONTROL OF THE FACILITY. HOWEVER, BUDA WILL HAVE A REPRESENTATION ON THE ADVISORY BOARD TO PROVIDE INPUT ON POLICY AND PROGRAMING. SO REALLY VERY WELL WRITTEN THERE. SO EXACTLY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SAY IN IT JUST AS MUCH AS WE'RE THE ONE TO BE PROVIDING THE LAND AND THE COST AND PROBABLY THE EMPLOYEES. SO THAT BUT BUDDHA IS JUST GOING TO BE ON THE BOARD TO MAKE THE POLICIES AND MAKE THE DECISIONS.

THE BOARD WILL BE THE. THAT'S CORRECT. THE BOARD WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION BOARD, JUST LIKE ANY OF OUR BOARDS THAT WILL ALL THOSE POLICIES AND DECISIONS WILL COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR FOR FINAL ADOPTION. OKAY. WHAT HAPPENS AT THE POINT TO WHEN WE START SEEING BUDA INCREASE THEIR INTAKE, IF THAT'S THE WAY, ARE WE GOING TO NOW HAVE YULIN INTERESTED AS WELL? I MEAN, I MEAN, THIS IS I'VE ASKED MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, I'VE YET TO SEE ANY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HERE TALK ABOUT THIS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ALSO BEING VERY ACTIVE IN THIS. I'M JUST WHO ELSE IS COMING ON BOARD WITH THIS FACILITY? BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO GET IT TO WHERE TEN YEARS OR FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT WE'RE HAVING MORE INTAKE FROM BUDA.

BUT THE ONLY THING THAT THEY HAVE IS THIS ONE TIME INPUT, BUT THEY'RE ON THE BOARD TO CONTROL THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ON HOW THIS PLACE OPERATES IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

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SURE, I CAN I CAN ANSWER A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. THE CAPITAL, THE ONE TIME INFUSION OF CASH IS FOR THE CAPITAL COST. SO THAT'S FOR BUILDING THE BUILDING AND GETTING IT UP AND RUNNING. THERE WILL BE AN ANNUAL REOCCURRING COST BASED ON INTAKE EVERY YEAR THAT'S EVALUATED TO EACH ONE OF OUR PARTNERS. SO IN IN THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE, IF BUDDHA'S INTAKE SKYROCKETS, THAT MULTIPLIER WILL ALSO GO UP TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. THAT ADDITIONAL INTAKE AND THE ANIMALS THAT ARE COMING IN THEIR REPRESENTATION ON THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A SEAT OR TWO, AS WILL HAYS COUNTY, AS WILL THE CITY HAVE REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATIVES ON THE BOARD AS WELL. AND AGAIN, THAT WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION BOARD THAT THEN COMES TO COUNCIL, JUST LIKE ALL OF OUR BOARDS TO BE ADOPTED. SO THEY WILL HAVE A SAY AS THEY SHOULD, AS THEY'RE AS THEY'RE A PARTNER OF OURS AND ARE ON THE BOARD. BUT IT WILL NOT BE A FINAL SAY. AND YOU ARE CORRECT. THE MOU OUTLINES THAT KYLE WILL OWN, OPERATE, HAVE, HAVE THE EMPLOYEES HAVE THE POLICIES. ALL OF THAT WILL RUN THROUGH THE CITY OF KYLE. AND WE'VE WE HAVE DISCUSSED ALL OF THAT WITH THE CITY OF BUDA, THEIR CITY MANAGER. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT. THEY'RE TAKING IT TO THEIR COUNCIL TONIGHT. SO IF I COULD JUST AMPLIFY SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE PARTNERS WE'VE LOOKED AT, IN ADDITION TO HAYS COUNTY, TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF KYLE, WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THE MOU AND THE PERCENTAGES WITH HAYS COUNTY. THIS IS A NET BENEFIT TO US. WE BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD PAY THESE SHARE OF THE COST. IT REDUCES THE REMAINING SHARE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE HAS TO PAY FOR THAT FACILITY. THERE IS SOME USAGE, BUT THAT MULTIPLIER IS JESSE MENTIONED IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT ANNUALLY. SO IF THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ANIMALS GOES UP, IT'S NOT 2.4%. IT MIGHT BE 5% OR 7% OR 8%, WHATEVER THAT IS, THEY'LL PAY THEIR PROPORTIONAL SHARE OF THAT COST. THAT'S WHAT THIS MOU IS DESIGNED TO DO, WHICH PROTECTS THE CITY. THE REASON THIS AGREEMENT IS ATTRACTIVE IN OUR, IN OUR ESTIMATION, IS BECAUSE THE CITY IS GOING TO GET A MUCH LARGER, MORE ROBUST FACILITY BY HAVING PARTNERSHIPS THAN WE WOULD OTHER WISE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ON OUR OWN. IT'S ALSO A CHEAPER COST TO THE CITY OF KYLE THAN IT WOULD BE TO BUILD IT ON OUR OWN TOO, SO WE BELIEVE ALL PARTIES WIN. THIS IS A WIN WIN PARTNERSHIP FOR ALL PARTIES. FOR BUDA. THEY DON'T. THEY GET TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SHARE OF A FACILITY THAT'S A LESS EXPENSIVE COST TO THEM THAN BUILDING THEIR OWN. SAME THING FOR HAYS COUNTY, SAME THING FOR US. IT'S RARE TO HAVE THOSE WHERE EVERYBODY WINS. WE BELIEVE EVERYBODY WINS IN THIS RELATIONSHIP, AND WE GET A FIRST CLASS FACILITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE DESIGN OF IT. THE PERCENTAGES WE'VE LOOKED AT VERY CAREFULLY TO NEGOTIATE THOSE, THOSE TERMS. BUT IT IS THE EXACT SAME TERMS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE MOU WITH HAYS COUNTY.

THE ILA WILL HAVE THE DETAILS. THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, EXCUSE ME, WILL HAVE THE DETAILS ABOUT HOW ALL THESE THINGS WILL WORK, THE REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD THAT JESSE MENTIONED. BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS TRY TO ADDRESS THE OVERALL STRUCTURE OF THIS SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS. ONE LAST THING, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, THE LAST PART YOU MENTIONED. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, IN CASE ANYONE FROM BUDA OR HAYS COUNTY IS WATCHING, IF ANOTHER CITY COMES IN, LET'S SAY WE BUILD THE BUILDING. WE'RE WE HAVE THE HAYS COUNTY INTAKE, WE HAVE THE BUDA INTAKE OF ANOTHER CITY COMES IN AT THAT POINT AND WANTS TO PARTNER ALL OF THESE MULTIPLIERS AND COST MULTIPLIERS THAT WE HAVE FIGURED GOING INTO THIS. THEY THEY ACCOUNT FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL COSTS THAT THOSE PARTNERS ARE PUTTING IN. THE MULTIPLIER WILL BE VERY DIFFERENT IF WE EVEN ACCEPT THAT INTAKE, IF SOMEONE'S COMING IN AFTER THE FACT. SO BEING IT BEING A PARTNER ON THIS, LIKE BRIAN WAS SAYING, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A WIN FOR EVERYONE THAT'S PARTNERING NOT ONLY IN THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO FOR THE FUTURE OF THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY. IF SOMEONE COMES IN AFTER THE FACT, ANOTHER CITY WANTS TO GET INVOLVED. AT THAT POINT, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION OF WHETHER WE EVEN DO IT AT THAT POINT OR WHAT THAT MULTIPLIER IS. IT COULD BE MUCH, MUCH HIGHER BECAUSE THESE THESE PARTNERS PARTICIPATED IN THE CAPITAL COSTS. AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WITH THE BUDA PARTNERSHIP IN HAYS COUNTY, APPROXIMATELY 70% OF THE COST OF THIS FACILITY IS FUNDED BY PARTIES OTHER THAN THE CITY OF KYLE. THAT THAT'S THE NET SUM OF IT. BUT JUST GET TO KNOW THAT THE CITY OF KYLE WILL NEVER HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER THIS FACILITY. NO WE DO. THAT'S NOT CORRECT. WE DO HAVE CONTROL.

WE WOULD, WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE TO BE PARTNERSHIP WITH THESE, WITH THE HAYS COUNTY AND WILL BE PARTNERSHIP WITH BUDA WHEN IT COMES TO POLICY AND PROCEDURES AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE ON OUR LAND, IT'S GOING TO BE OUR WATER, IT'S GOING TO BE OUR CITY FACILITIES, BUT WE WILL NEVER BE IN FULL CONTROL OF IT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE PARTNERING UP. THAT'S WHAT PARTNERSHIPS ARE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT PARTNERSHIPS UP. YOU GET A PIECE, YOU GET A PIECE, YOU GET A PIECE. BUT IN THE END, THE CITY KYLE WILL NEVER HAVE ITS OWN FACILITY ITSELF BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH DIFFERENT WITH DIFFERENT, WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A LOT OF THESE POLICIES. I GET THE FINANCIAL PART ALTOGETHER. I GUESS I HEAR THAT

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BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STATE OF THE ART ANIMAL SHELTER WITH, YOU KNOW, RESCUE CENTER AND VETERINARIANS AND SO FORTH. BUT FOR THOSE THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE SAYING, WHY ARE WE PARTNERING UP, WE'LL NEVER HAVE THE CONTROL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE SAY ON IT, BECAUSE WE'RE GOT TO LOOK AT IT IN THOSE IN THOSE EYES ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IS, AND WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR WITH BOTH HAYS COUNTY AND BUDA THROUGH THE MOU AND OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THE CITY OF KYLE WILL OWN AND OPERATE THIS FACILITY ENTIRELY. WE WILL HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD, AS JESSE MENTIONED, TO HELP MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON POLICIES. BUT THOSE POLICIES WILL BE GOVERNED BY THE CITY OF KYLE AND THIS CITY COUNCIL. SO WE WILL OWN AND OPERATE THE FACILITY. WE CERTAINLY WANT TO GET INPUT FROM OUR PARTNERS AND TRY TO HAVE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP ON ALL THESE THINGS, BUT WE WERE VERY CLEAR TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE FACILITY, THERE'S GOT TO BE ONE CHAIN OF COMMAND, ONE DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL SERVICES THAT'S CONTROLLING THIS FACILITY, NOT FROM AN EGO PERSPECTIVE, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RUNNING IT EFFECTIVELY. IT'S YOU CAN'T HAVE 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT PEOPLE TRYING TO TO RUN THE OPERATION.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE INTENT. I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, BUT THAT'S AT LEAST HOW WE'VE TRIED TO DESIGN THAT. THAT'S THAT MORE DETAILED CONVERSATION THAT COMES BACK IN THAT ISLA, WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENT OF HOW WE WOULD WORK ON THIS. THIS MOU IS MEANT TO BE A CONCEPTUAL DOCUMENT OF WHAT THAT PARTNERSHIP LOOKS LIKE. HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT. I DO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS. YEAH. CUSTOMER. YEAH, JUST TOUCH ON THAT. YEAH. YOU'RE CORRECT BRIAN. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO RUN THIS. WE WE OWN IT.

WE RUN IT. WE'RE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? THE CITY OF KYLE IS THE INVESTOR WHO'S BRINGING THIS FORWARD. SO THE BOARD JUST LIKE ALL OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WE'VE GOT BOARDS AND COMMISSION. BUT ULTIMATELY THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF THAT MAKE THAT DECISION WHATEVER DIRECTION WE GO. BUT AS FAR AS GETTING MORE PARTNERS IN, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

ONE REASON IS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DESIGNING THE BUILDING. WE'RE WE'RE MAKING UP FOR FUTURE INTAKE AS WELL. SO I WOULDN'T SEE US PARTNERING WITH ANYBODY ELSE IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S GOING TO BE. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO BRING FORWARD IS THE LANGUAGE IS BEING PUT OUT THERE REGIONAL. WE'RE NOT TAKING IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING THE RIGHT VERBIAGE OUT THERE AS A CITY. WE'RE TELLING THEM WHAT INTAKE POINTS WE'RE TAKING.

WE'RE NOT TAKING IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT IT OUT THERE THAT WE'RE TAKING IN THE REGIONAL, JUST LIKE SAN MARCOS DID. WE'RE NOT WE'RE LIMITING WHAT WE'RE TAKING IN AND MAKING SURE WE HIGHLIGHT THOSE POINTS. IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR ME, BUT NO, KYLE. KYLE OWNS THIS ANIMAL ADOPTION CENTER AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTROL IT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE WERE THE ONES THAT TOOK THE INITIATIVE. WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, AND IF PARTNERS WANTED TO COME IN, WE WERE WELCOMING THAT. BUT YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS BELONGS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE CITY OF KYLE WILL CONTROL IT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER RUSSO. THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT. COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER RIZZO SAID. CITY OF KYLE IS GOING TO OWN THIS. WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE IT.

WE'RE GOING TO LOGISTICALLY RUN IT. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE DECISIONS ON INTAKE, NOT OUT OF EGO, BUT BECAUSE WE WANT THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. BUT IT WILL BE CITY OF KYLE ANIMAL ADOPTION CENTER. BUT I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT. IT WILL NOT BE REGIONAL. IT'S GOING TO BE IN AN AREA THAT DOES HAVE A LOT OF NEED. THAT HAS WHERE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ABANDONED DOGS, SO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT AREA. AS YOU SHOWN IN THE DATA. RIGHT? THIS WAS THE AREA WHERE THERE WAS THE MOST PROBLEMS IN KYLE BORDERS ETJ AREA COUNTY LOOKED AT IT AS WELL. AND THIS IS THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL AREA. SO IT WON'T BE REGIONAL. THERE'S NOT AN EXPECTATION FROM MORE CITIES COMING IN HERE. I THINK WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT PRETTY CLEAR. THE CAPITAL COSTS RIGHT NOW BUDA, HAYS, HAYS COUNTY THAT'S ABOUT IT. RIGHT. AND THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED EARLIER. AND I GET WHY THEY PROBABLY WILL HAPPEN THE WAY THEY ARE IN TERMS OF THE STRUCTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION. WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT THAT DEEP, BUT WE HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. THAT PERSON WILL PROBABLY BE WORKING WITH THE VET, THE VET TECH, THE THE, THE FACILITY ADMINISTRATORS PARTICIPATING IN COMMUNITY STUFF GRANTS THOSE THINGS. RIGHT? IS THAT THE REASON WHY ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS WOULD NOT BE UNDERNEATH THAT SAME PERSON? BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT BRANCHES. NO. THE WAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IS THAT THEY WOULD BE ALL UNDER AN ANIMAL SERVICES. THEY WILL BE WITH THE DIRECTOR RUNNING THE DEPARTMENT FROM ALL THOSE DIFFERENT. IT'S VERY WELL SAID THE BREAKDOWN. THEY WOULD ALSO BE HELPING DEVELOP ALL THE

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POLICY THAT'S COMING FORWARD AND BRINGING IT TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD, ULTIMATELY TO COUNCIL. BUT YES, THEY WOULD ALL BE UNDER THE SAME DEPARTMENT OF ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THAT'S THAT IS HIRED ALL THOSE FTES HIRED BASED ON THE THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, THE INTAKE, THE NUMBERS AND ALL THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE FINANCIALS DISTRIBUTED AMONG OUR PARTNERS. OKAY. YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT DECISION WAS MADE YET. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS THE BEST DECISION. WHETHER YOU DO WANT ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS UNDER THAT OR NOT. LIKE I SAID, EITHER WAY, I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK SOMEBODY EXPRESSED THAT EARLIER THAT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE ALL IN SYNERGY TOGETHER.

YEAH. LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SURE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT DATA, BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR A PET RESOURCE COORDINATOR. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A COMPONENT OF THE COUNTY. SO I KIND OF WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A A ROLE THAT SOMEONE COULD HAVE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE, LOW COST SERVICES FOR SOME OF THESE PETS AND PROVIDE SPAY NEUTER, TNR, AND EVEN FOOD ASSISTANCE FOR SOME OF THE LOW, LOW COST ANIMAL SUPPLIES. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN VOICED TO ME TO SEE IF WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AS PART OF I KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE THE THE ANIMAL ADOPTION CENTER, BUT CAN WE HAVE THAT HELPING HAND OF A PET RESOURCE COMPONENT? JUST A COUPLE THINGS. THE DIRECTOR AND THE ACOS CURRENTLY AS THEY STAND. THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THAT'S NOT THE ONLY POSITIONS THAT WILL BE WITHIN THE CITY. ONE OF THE JOBS THE DIRECTOR WILL HAVE AS THEY COME ON, WILL BE TO NOT ONLY WORK WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND AND HAVE A LOT OF CONNECTIONS WITH ALL THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS AROUND THIS AREA, BUT ALSO TO DEVELOP OUT THAT ENTIRE FRAMEWORK OF THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THERE WILL BE THERE WILL BE OTHER POSITIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED.

THERE WILL BE THERE WILL BE A WHOLE FRAMEWORK OF AN ANIMAL, AN ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT WILL BE BUILT OUT. AND SO WHAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE LIKE YOU, I DON'T KNOW YET, BUT AS WE BUILD THEM OUT, IT WON'T JUST BE THE DIRECTOR AND THE ACOS. IT WILL BE A WHOLE HOST OF POSITIONS THAT WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE RUN THE DEPARTMENT SUCCESSFULLY. YEAH. VERY DYNAMIC. THINGS ARE STILL CHANGING. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE VERY EARLY ON AND THANK YOU FOR WORKING ON IT. I KNOW THIS WAS A NEED, A PRESSING NEED WITH THE CONTRACT BEING, YOU KNOW, AT THE END WITH SAN MARCOS, GREAT LOCATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE RENDERINGS OF WHAT JACKSON AND RYAN HAVE PROPOSED IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT. THANK YOU. JESSE. ALL RIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 23, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER RIZZO, THAT WE APPROVE. ITEM 23. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. ALL RIGHT. IT'S 1007. WE CONSENT. SO WE'RE ON A WE'RE ON A RECORD PACE HERE RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET SERIOUS. BUT I DO NEED A I DO NEED A BREAK. AND I THINK WE ALL NEED A BIT OF A BREAK. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE IT A QUICK ONE BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE FOLKS HERE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING. WE'RE ALL TIRED. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO I'M GOING TO CALL IT A FIVE MINUTE 9 I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. AND WE'RE GOING

[30) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary fee simple title to a parcel of land containing 0.3092 acre and a 0.0925 acre public utility easement (as described in Exhibits “A” and “A1” to the Resolution) from certain real property owned by PG Austin Complex LLC for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway improvements Bunton Creek Road project. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

TO BRING UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 30. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, FINDING A PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN, IF NECESSARY, FEE SIMPLE TITLE TO A PARCEL OF LAND CONTAINING 0.3092 ACRES AND A 0.0925 ACRE PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT, AS DESCRIBED IN EXHIBITS A AND A-1, TO THE RESOLUTION FROM CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY PGE AUSTIN COMPLEX, LLC FOR THE PUBLIC USE AND PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. BUNTON CREEK ROAD PROJECT. THIS ITEM HAS A ROLL CALL VOTE. MR. SCHMITZ, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHMITZ, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE SEVEN ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU TONIGHT. GOOD NEWS, TWO OF WHICH HAVE BEEN SETTLED. I BELIEVE THEY ARE 31 AND 32. SO WE WILL NOT HAVE TO ASK YOU TO TAKE ACTION ON THOSE.

BUT I HAVE, SINCE WE HAVE FIVE OF THEM, I WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE FULL PRESENTATION ON THIS FIRST ONE, AND THEN I WILL BE VERY BRIEF ON ON THE FOUR FOLLOWING. SO IN 2022, THE CITY OF KYLE VOTERS APPROVED PROPOSITION A IS A ROAD BOND FOR EIGHT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS ACROSS KYLE, TOTALING 10.3 MILES OF NEW LOCATION RECONSTRUCTION AND WIDENING PROJECTS TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. THIS PROJECT WILL IMPROVE BUNTON CREEK ROAD FROM LEEMAN ROAD TO PORTER COVE. THE ALIGNMENT AND DESIGN FEATURES WERE APPROVED

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BY THE COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF 2024. A TASK ORDER TO BGE TO COMPLETE THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WAS APPROVED IN MARCH OF 2023, AND THEN THE FINAL DESIGN WAS APPROVED IN APRIL OF 2024. THIS IS PARCEL 11 AND 11 E TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENTS NEEDED FOR THE ROADWAY. SURVEY WAS COMPLETED AND APPRAISAL WAS PERFORMED ON THE NEEDED TRACT. PROPERTY INTERESTS INCLUDE HERE. FEE SIMPLE RIGHT OF WAY OF 0.3092 ACRES AND PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OF 0.0925 ACRES. IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENT INCLUDE ROADWAY AND SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. SO PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY REFERS TO THE COUNCIL DETERMINING WHETHER THE CITY'S ACQUISITION OF AN INTEREST IN A SPECIFIC PIECE OF REAL PROPERTY, SUCH AS AN EASEMENT OR FEE.

SIMPLE TITLE IS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE A PARTICULAR PUBLIC USE FOR THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY. IN THIS SITUATION, THE PCN FINDS THAT THE BUNTON CREEK ROAD PROJECT IS NECESSARY AND REQUIRED TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THE ACQUISITION OF THE IDENTIFIED PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CITY ARE UNABLE TO REACH A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT, THE PCN AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO INITIATE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS IF NECESSARY TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY. AND SO WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE 3.3092 ACRES OF LAND IN FEE SIMPLE AND A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OVER 0.0925 ACRES OF LAND FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY PPG AUSTIN COMPLEX, LLC, AS DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 30 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING PUBLIC ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE BUNTON CREEK ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. MOTION BY MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR HARRIS THAT WE APPROVE THE ITEM. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ROLL CALL VOTE. RIZZO. AYE. MITCHELL. YES. ZUNIGA. YES, SIR.

YES. TOBIAS. YES, MA'AM. MCKINNEY. YES. HARRIS. YES. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0.

[33) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary a temporary grading easement from a parcel of land containing 525 square feet (as described in Exhibit “A” to the Resolution) from certain real property owned by General Telephone Company of the Southwest for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway infrastructure improvements for the Center Street On System project. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 33. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN, IF NECESSARY, TEMPORARY GRADING EASEMENT FROM A PARCEL OF LAND CONTAINING 525FT■!S, AS DESCRIBED IN EXHIBT A TO THE RESOLUTION FROM CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY GENERAL TELEPHONE COMPANY OF THE SOUTHWEST FOR THE PUBLIC USE AND PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PROJECT. THIS ITEM IS ROLL CALL.

VOTE MISS SCHMITZ AGAIN. THIS IS THE CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PROJECT. IT WILL IMPROVE CENTER STREET FROM VETERANS DRIVE TO MAIN STREET. HERE'S THE ALIGNMENT IN THE PROJECT LIMITS OF THIS PROJECT. HERE'S THE SIDE INFORMATION. IT'S PARCEL 16. PROPERTY INTERESTS INCLUDE HERE A TEMPORARY EASEMENT OF 525FT■!S. AND IMPROVEMENTS WITHN THE EASEMENT INCLUDE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION. AND WE DO BELIEVE THIS IS REQUIRES THE TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. AND WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE AUTHORIZE THE USE OF POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE TEMPORARY EASEMENT OVER 525FT■!S OF LAND FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY GENERAL ELECTRIC TELEPHONE COMPANY OF THE SOUTHWEST, AS DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 33, FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING PUBLIC ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT. IMPROVED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CENTER STREET ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SECOND MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ROLL CALL VOTE? MITCHELL. YES. HARRIS. YES. TOBIAS. YES.

ZUNIGA. YES. MCKINNEY. YES, SIR. YES. RIZZO. YES. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP

[34) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary a temporary grading easement from a parcel of land containing 400 square feet (as described in Exhibit “A” to the Resolution) from certain real property owned by Kyle 150 Center, LLC for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway infrastructure improvements for the Jack C Hays project. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

IS AGENDA ITEM 34. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN, IF NECESSARY, A TEMPORARY EASEMENT FROM A PARCEL OF LAND CONTAINING 400FTS IS DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A TO THE RESOLUTION FROM CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY KYLE 150 CENTER, LLC, FOR THE PUBLIC USE AND PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE JACK C HAYES PROJECT. MR. MIKE, AGAIN, THIS IS JACK C HAYES IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. IT WILL IMPROVE JACK C HAYES TRAIL FROM VETERANS DRIVE TO NORTH OF WOODY ROAD. HERE. THE PROJECT LIMITS. THIS IS PARCEL 80. PROPERTY INTERESTS INCLUDE HERE A TEMPORARY EASEMENT OF 400FT■!, AND IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE EASEMENT INCLUDE ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION. AND WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE TEMPORARY EASEMENT OVER 400FT■!S OF LAND FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY KYLE 150 CENTER, LLC, AS DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 34, FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING PUBLIC ROADWAY AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE JACK C HAYES ROADWAY

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IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCILOR HARRIS. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ROLL CALL VOTE. HI, SIR. YES, TOBIAS MCKINNEY. YES. RIZZO. YES. MITCHELL. YES.

HARRIS. YES. ZUNIGA. PRESENT. I'M JOKING. YES. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM

[35) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary fee simple title to a parcel of land containing 0.8852 acres and a public utility easement from two parcels of land containing 0.5337 acres total (as described in Exhibits “A” and “B” to the Resolution) from certain real property owned by Irma Gomez-Palacios for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway improvements for the Kyle Parkway Lehman Road Extension project. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

NUMBER 35. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN, IF NECESSARY, FEE. SIMPLE TITLE TO A PARCEL OF LAND CONTAINING 0.8852 ACRES IN A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT FROM TWO PARCELS OF LAND CONTAINING 0.5337 ACRES TOTAL, AS DESCRIBED IN EXHIBITS A AND B TO THE RESOLUTION FROM CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY IRMA GOMEZ PALACIOS FOR THE PUBLIC USE AND PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE KYLE PARKWAY LEEMAN ROAD EXTENSION PROJECT. AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE KYLE PARKWAY AND LEEMAN ROAD EXTENSION PROJECT. IT'S GOING TO EXTEND LEEMAN ROAD FROM BUNTON CREEK ROAD TO DACY LANE AND KYLE PARKWAY FROM DACY LANE TO THE NEW LEEMAN ROAD. HERE IS A MAP OF THE PROJECT LIMITS. THIS IS FOR PARCEL 20 AND 20 E.

THE PROPERTY INTEREST HERE INCLUDE FEE. SIMPLE RIGHT OF WAY IS 0.8852 ACRES AND EASEMENT OF 0.5377 ACRES. IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND EASEMENT INCLUDE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION AND DRAINAGE. AND WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE 0.8852 ACRES OF LAND IN FEE, SIMPLE AND PUBLIC, AND A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OVER 0.5337 ACRES OF LAND FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY IRMA GOMEZ PALACIOS, AS DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 35, FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING PUBLIC ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE KYLE PARKWAY ROAD ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SECOND MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCILOR HARRIS. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ROLL CALL VOTE. TOBIAS. YES, MA'AM. MCKINNEY.

YES. RIZZO. YES. HARRIS. YES. ZUNIGA. YES. MITCHELL. YES. HEIZER. YES. MOTION CARRIES 7

[36) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary fee simple title to a parcel of land containing 0.8797 acres and a public utility easement from two parcels of land containing 0.2705 acres total (as described in Exhibits “A” and “B” to the Resolution) from certain real property owned by Jo Ann Riojas-Edwards and Robert Edwards for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway improvements for the Kyle Parkway Lehman Road Extension project. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

TO 0. NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM 36. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN, IF NECESSARY, FEE SIMPLE TITLE TO A PARCEL OF LAND CONTAINING 0.8797 ACRES AND A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT FROM TWO PARCELS OF LAND CONTAINING 0.275 ACRES TOTAL, AS DESCRIBED IN EXHIBITS A AND B TO THE RESOLUTION FROM CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY JOE N EDWARDS AND ROBERT EDWARDS, FOR THE PUBLIC USE AND PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE KYLE PARKWAY LAYMAN ROAD EXTENSION PROJECT. AGAIN, THIS IS FOR THE KYLE PARKWAY AND LEEMAN ROAD EXTENSION PROJECT. IT WILL EXTEND LEEMAN ROAD FROM BUNTON CREEK ROAD TO DACY LANE AND KYLE PARKWAY. FROM DACY LANE TO THE NEW LEEMAN ROAD. THERE'S A MAP OF THE PROJECT LIMITS. THIS IS FOR PARCEL 21 AND 21 E. PROPERTY INTERESTS HERE INCLUDE FEE SIMPLE RIGHT OF WAY OF 0.8797 ACRES, AND AN EASEMENT OF 0.2705 ACRES. IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AN EASEMENT INCLUDE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION, AND WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE PCN.

ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE 0.8797 ACRES OF LAND IN FEE SIMPLE AND A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OVER 0.275 ACRES OF LAND FROM PROPERTY OWNED BY JOANNE RIOJAS EDWARDS AND ROBERT EDWARDS, AS DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 36 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING ROAD PUBLIC ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE KYLE PARKWAY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR SECONDED BY COUNCILOR HARRIS TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 36. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ROLL CALL VOTE. HARRIS. YES. ZUNIGA. YES. MITCHELL. YES. TOBIAS. YES. HEIZER. YES. RIZZO. YES.

MCKINNEY. YES. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU. AMBER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HOW MANY ITEMS DO WE BRING UP IN A ROW HERE, OR DO YOU WANT TO BRING THEM ALL UP AT THE SAME TIME FOR THE WEEKEND PROPERTY? IT'S 36, 37, 38, 39. ACTUALLY BE 37, 38, 39.

YES. THOSE 337 THROUGH 39. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO BRING ALL ITEMS UP AT THE SAME TIME. WE DO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON 38 AND 39. CAN I BRING THEM ALL UP AND THEN CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ITEMS AT THAT? OKAY. PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. SO

[37) (First Reading) Consider approval of an Ordinance authorizing a Development Agreement (DA) with RD & MML Wiegand Family Trust and CityPoint Kyle LLC for approximately +/- 99 acre tracts, for property located at 1100 E. FM-150, in Hays County, Texas. (DA-25-00014)]

[38) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance for a voluntary annexation of approximately 101.13 acres being 98.88 acres known as the Wiegand tract and 2.25 acres of adjacent CR 158 right-of-way (ROW) located at 1100 E RR 150, between CR 158 and RR 150. (ANNX-25-0025) Public Hearing ]

[39) (First Reading) Consider approval of an Ordinance to rezone an approximately 98.88 acres tract of land from the interim zoning classification of Agricultural (AG) to a Planned Unit Development (PUD), consisting of approximately 13 acres of Retail Services (RS) district, 48.4 acres of Single-Family Attached (R-1-A) Garden Home district, and 28.4 acres of Apartment Residential 3 (R-3-3) district, for property located at 1100 E. FM-150, in Hays County, Texas. (Z-25-0138) Public Hearing ]

WE'RE GOING TO BRING THEM ALL UP AT THE SAME TIME. PLEASE DON'T LET ME FORGET TO HOLD THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEM 37 IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH R.D. AND M.L. WIGAN FAMILY TRUST AND CITY POINT, LLC FOR APPROXIMATELY PLUS OR -99 ACRE TRACTS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1100 EAST FM 150, IN HAYS

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COUNTY, TEXAS. AND AGENDA ITEM 38 FIRST READING. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF APPROXIMATELY 101.13 ACRES, BEING 98.88 ACRES, KNOWN AS THE WIGAN TRACT, AND 2.225 ACRES OF ADJACENT COUNTY ROAD 158 RIGHT OF WAY, LOCATED AT 1100 EAST RR 150 BETWEEN COUNTY ROAD 158 AND RR 150, AN AGENDA ITEM 39 CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE AN APPROXIMATELY 98.88 ACRE ACRES TRACT OF LAND FROM THE INTERIM ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF AG TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 13 ACRES OF RETAIL SERVICES, 48.4 ACRES, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED GARDEN HOME DISTRICT, AND 28.4 ACRES OF APARTMENT RESIDENTIAL. THREE R3 THREE DISTRICT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1100 EAST FM 150, IN HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS. MR. LUTZ CAN PRESENT. THEN WE'LL DO THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THEN WE CAN OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPERS ALSO HERE AS WELL TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. I DO WANT TO NOTE BEFORE THE PRESENTATION THAT THESE ARE ALL FIRST READING ITEMS, MEANING THE DISCUSSION WE HAVE, THE VOTES WE TAKE ARE NOT FINAL. IF WE IF THE COUNCIL MOVES IT FORWARD TO SECOND READING, THAT'S WHEN THE VOTES WILL BE CONSUMMATED. MR. YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. SO WE'VE GOT A BIG PROJECT TONIGHT GOING TO BE DISCUSSING SEVERAL FACTORS. AND SO I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH FAIRLY QUICKLY. BUT IF I GO TOO FAST PLEASE ASK ME TO SLOW DOWN. SO TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROPOSED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE MULTIPLE APPROVALS. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE ITEMS. THAT'S FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. THOSE ARE IN BOLD.

THAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT'S GOING TO REGULATE OUR BUILDING MATERIALS UTILITY UPGRADES RESPONSIBILITIES PARKLAND FEES VIBE CITY OBLIGATION, DEVELOPER OBLIGATIONS. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ANNEXATION, WHICH WOULD BRING THE PROPERTY INTO THE CITY LIMITS AND ALLOWS FOR THE ZONING. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING INSTEAD OF THE INTERIM OF A-G, WHICH WOULD THIS WOULD COME INTO A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RIDERS WITH THIS PROJECT THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE 21ST MEETING ARE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THE WATER CERTIFICATE OF CONVEYANCE AND NECESSITY IS A SWAP WITH COUNTY LINE TO SERVE THE TRACT RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION.

THIS IS TO ALLOW A TAX CREDIT HOUSING PROJECT TO BE DEVELOPED ON THE SITE. AND AGAIN, THOSE WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON THE 21ST WITH THE SECOND READ OF THE THREE ITEMS WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT. SO THIS SUMMARY ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AGAIN, IT'S ESTABLISHING UTILITY SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS, TRANSPORTATION TIA REQUIREMENTS, PARKLAND, DEDICATION OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, TAX CREDIT, HOUSING AND BUILDING MATERIALS. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE UTILITIES AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AGAIN THIS IS CITY OF KYLE'S WASTEWATER, CCN. SO WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO SERVE THE TRACT AT ONE PORTION OF OUR COUNTY LINE AS THE WATER PROVIDER IN THE AREA. THE COUNTY LINE DOES NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE CURRENTLY INSTALLED TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHY THE APPLICANT HAS REACHED OUT TO THEM. AND LOOKING AT DOING A SWAP WITH THE CITY OF KYLE. BUT THIS SWAP WILL GIVE THE CITY FULL CONTROL OVER THE UTILITIES. SO NOT JUST SEWER, WE'LL HAVE WATER AND SEWER. THE DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES. THEY ARE REQUESTING APPROXIMATELY 740.

LOUISE, THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE LOO PER SINGLE FAMILY HOME, 0.75 FOR TOWNHOMES AND 0.5 FOR MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A PHASING PLAN THAT DISCUSSES THE LOUISE AND THE WATER AVAILABILITY. AND SO THE DATES LISTED IN BOLD ARE GOING TO BE FOR WHEN THOSE ALLOTTED LOUISE, EACH PHASE WOULD EXPIRE. AND THEN THERE'S SOME DATES ON WHEN THEY THEORETICALLY WOULD START. THE CITY CONSULTANT DID HAS MODELED THE WATER DEMANDS. WE DO HAVE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO MEET THE PROPOSED PHASING SCHEDULE THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS OUTLINED. SO PHASE ONE WOULD START APPROXIMATELY AUGUST 1ST THROUGH 2027. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 330 LOUISE. THAT'S 350 FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, 150 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND ABOUT 15,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL. PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE 160 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 3500FT■!S F COMMERCIAL AND THEN PHASE THREE, ANOTHER 170. LOUISE. THAT'LL BE THE 315 FOR THE SECOND MULTIFAMILY, AND THEN ANOTHER 20,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL AND TN WRAPPING IT UP. PHASE FOUR IS THE REMAINING 20 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR THE MULTIFAMILY OR FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE DA DOES DISCUSS THAT THERE IS THE MINIMUM 70,000 SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL IN HERE. IT ALSO HAS SOME TRIGGERS IN HERE THAT SAYS THEY MUST COMPLETE THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE COMMERCIAL BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE INTO ANY SECOND PHASE ON THE SINGLE FAMILY. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE COMMERCIAL BEFORE WE GET THE RESIDENTIAL. THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT PHASING SCHEDULE. THE DEVELOPER COULD MAINTAIN SOME LOUISE IF THEY ADOPT RESERVATION FEES, IF THE CITY DOES. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT IF THEY DO NOT DEVELOP IN ACCORDING TO THAT TIME FRAME, THEN THAT THOSE LOUISE WILL COME BACK AND THEY CAN BE REALLOCATED TO OTHER

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DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. IMPACT FEES FOR WASTEWATER SHALL BE PAID. THE ADOPTED 23 WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE RATE JUST FOR THE MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY UNITS IN PHASE ONE. IF THEY DO NOT COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION ON PHASE ONE BEFORE THE DECEMBER 31ST, 2028 DATE, THEN THEY SHALL PAY THE WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE RATE AT THE TIME THAT THEY COME FOR PERMITTING DEVELOPERS OBLIGATIONS. AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO DESIGN, PERMIT AND CONSTRUCT OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITIES, PROVIDE OR PAY THE COST FOR THE CITY SYSTEM IF REQUIRED, TO OVERSIZE THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN ALL COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE EXCEEDING THAT MINIMUM TO SERVE THE PROJECT WILL BE CREDITED TO THEIR IMPACT FEES WHEN THEY COME IN, AND PERMIT THOSE INDIVIDUAL PAD SITES. CITY'S OBLIGATION IS TO PROVIDE OUR WATER SERVICE IN THE PROPOSED PHASES AND TIMELINES. ACCEPT ALL THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ONCE THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED AND ACCEPTED, AND THEN WE WILL NEED TO ASSIST THE DEVELOPER WITH RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO USE OUR EMINENT DOMAIN POWER TO GET SOME OF THESE THESE PROPERTIES, TO EXTEND THOSE UTILITIES TO SERVE THE SITE, BUT THEY WILL COVER THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ACQUISITION. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALSO TALKS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 7.2 ACRES THAT'S GOING TO BE CONVEYED TO THE CITY FOR PASTRANO SENIOR PARKWAY. A.L.M FEES WILL BE WAIVED AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT, BUT THE VALUE OF THE LAND DONATED IS BETWEEN 900 AND 40,003.7 MILLION FOR THAT ROADWAY. THIS IS LOOKING AT A MINOR ARTERIAL OF 100FT OF RIGHT OF WAY. ONCE COMPLETED, THIS ROAD WILL CONNECT FM 150 AND YARRINGTON ROAD. SO THE CITY IS WORKING ON DESIGNING THE SECTION THAT GOES THROUGH THE ALADDIN TRACK THAT YOU SEE JUST SOUTH OF THE TRACK. SO THAT WILL BE ONE OF OUR OUR LARGEST SEGMENTS OF THE NEW NEW STREET HERE. TIA IS REQUIRED ANY OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS, NOT JUST ON PASTRANO, BUT ONE 5158 OR ANY OTHER INTERSECTIONS WOULD NEED TO BE DONE AT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER AT THEIR COST. BUT OUR ANALYSIS OF THIS SHOWS THAT UP TO 15% TRAFFIC DIVERSION OFF OF 150. ONCE THIS SECTION IS COMPLETED AND THEN AS AS THAT ROAD CONTINUES, THEN HOPEFULLY THOSE NUMBERS WILL CONTINUE TO CLIMB AND RELIEVE SOME OF THAT CONGESTION. THE CITY IS GOING TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE ROAD. WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE STORM AND SEWER AND DRAINAGE FOR THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE CITY WILL FUND THE PROJECT VIA THE DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION AND REPAY ITSELF VIA TERRY'S NUMBER FOR REIMBURSEMENTS. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALSO TALKS ABOUT PARKLAND. THERE'S A 1.5 ACRE COMMUNITY PARK AND PAVILION THAT'S GOING TO BE DONATED TO THE CITY. THAT WILL BE A FEE SIMPLE DONATION. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 0.9 MILES OR TWO ACRES OF TRAIL THAT'S BEING PROVIDED, SEVEN ACRES OF ACTIVE PARKS AND DETENTION THAT'S DEDICATED VIA PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENTS, ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY TRAILS AND PARKLAND IN THERE, AND THEN A RETAIL POCKET PARK, POSSIBLY, AND THEN 10.5 TOTAL ACRES OF PARKLAND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BUT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE DEVELOPER WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY PARK. AGAIN, THAT'S 1.5 ACRES, BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FOOT INDOOR MEETING SPACE, RESTROOMS, DRINKING FOUNTAIN, COVERED SPORTS COURT, PLAYSCAPE UTILIZING NATIVE LANDSCAPE. THE OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT SEVEN ACRES. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THEIR PARKLAND DEDICATION, THEY'RE EXCEEDING SO THEIR DEVELOPMENT OBLIGATIONS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 960,000. THEY'RE PROVIDING ABOUT 2 MILLION IN PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ALSO TALKING TO DISCUSS THE CCN SWAP AND THE RODEO. AGAIN NOT FOR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. THAT WILL BE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THESE ITEMS AGAIN THE PUD WILL BE FUN TO UTILIZE.

ROAD AND INFRASTRUCTURE COST. THE CCN SWAP IS GOING TO ENSURE THE PROJECT CAN BE SERVED IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND THEN AGAIN, THE RODEO IS JUST TO SUPPORT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECT. THE TAX CREDIT PROJECT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A PILOT PAYMENT TO THE CITY.

THAT'S GOING TO BE 3.5 MILLION UPFRONT AND 125,000 PLUS 3% EACH YEAR, STARTING IN YEAR 16 THROUGH 30. THIS IS DONE TO OFFSET SOME OF THE LOSS OF REVENUE AS WELL. THIS IS IN ITS TAX ABATEMENT STAGE, BUT THE PAYMENT SCHEDULE IS AS FOLLOWS. SO PROXIMATELY $100,000 WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER APPROVAL, 150,000. WITHIN 90 DAYS OF APPROVAL, IT'LL BE 250,000 WITHIN 180 DAYS AND THEN 500,000 UPON AWARD OF CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE PASTRANO EXTENSION, 900,000 WILL BE PROVIDED UPON COMPLETION, ACCEPTANCE AND OPENING OF THAT ROADWAY, AND THEN THE 1.6 FINAL 1.6 MILLION UPON ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT FOR ANY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT 3.5 UP FRONT PAYMENT. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALSO DISCUSSED BUILDING MATERIALS. THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS PROJECT

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IS NOT IN THE CITY, AND IT WOULD NOT BE IN AN OVERLAY IF IT CAME IN. SO THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN CONTROL BUILDING MATERIALS. SO THEY'RE PROPOSING 40% MINIMUM BRICK OR STONE.

THAT IS NOT STUCCO. THAT IS A TRUE MASONRY PRODUCT. AND THEN THE REMAINING MATERIALS CAN USE STUCCO, SIDING, METAL OR TILE. THEY DID INCLUDE SOME OF THE IMAGES. SO WHEN THIS COMES BEFORE STAFF THIS WOULD BE KIND OF THE THE IMAGES WE LOOK AT TO VERIFY WHETHER THEY'RE MEETING THE BUILDING ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS. I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO DISCUSSING THE ANNEXATION REAL QUICK. SO THE CITY THIS TRACT IS OWNED BY THE WIGGINS. THE CITY HAS A NON ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THEM. SO ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY SUBDIVISION OF LAND OVER THE NEXT YEAR, 60 DAYS, 30 DAYS WOULD TRIGGER ANNEXATION. SO WE WE WOULD BE BACK AT SOME POINT. THE PROPERTY IS TO BE ANNEXED IS APPROXIMATELY 101 ACRES. THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE THE 98 ACRES FOR THE CONTRACT. AND THEN ACCORDING TO STATE LAW, WE ALSO HAVE TO ANNEX THE COUNTY ROAD THAT'S ADJACENT TO THAT. SO WE'LL BRING THAT INTO THE CITY AS WELL. AGAIN, THE INTERIM ZONING IS AGRICULTURE, AND WHICH IS WHY WE'LL BE DISCUSSING A PUD FOR THAT MOVING FORWARD. HERE'S THE SCHEDULE FOR ANNEXATION. SEPTEMBER 16TH. WE HELD THE RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE ANNEXATION PETITION. WE'VE GOT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, FIRST READING ORDINANCE TONIGHT, AND THEN THE SECOND READING ON THE 21ST. SO THE PUD REQUESTED ZONING AGAINST 98 ACRES AS BROKEN UP INTO THREE DISTRICTS. THE RETAIL SERVICES, THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED GARDEN HOME DISTRICT AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL R-3 THREE DISTRICT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THEM BROKEN UP HERE ON THE MAP. AND THIS IS AN ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE RETAIL SERVICES LAND USES.

AGAIN, I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM 70,000 SQUARE FOOT THAT MUST BE CONSTRUCTED.

THEY CAN ALWAYS DO MORE SHOULD SHOULD THEY SUIT THEIR NEEDS. BUT THAT IS THE MINIMUM THAT THE CITY WILL BE LOOKING AT GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL USES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED IN THE RS IS A CIVIC PARK LAND. THE DEVELOPER IS LOOKING AT DONATING APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES TO THE CITY FOR FACILITY. IF WE DO NOT BUILD A FACILITY WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME, THEN THAT WOULD BE CONVERTED TO PARKLAND OR OPEN SPACE IN THE INTERIM. THERE ARE SOME LIMITED USES THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IN HERE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE OF EACH. THESE WOULD BE BANKS WITHOUT DRIVE THRUS, MATTRESS STORES, A MAXIMUM OF 2500FT■!S D A LIQUOR STORE MAXIMUM OF 2500FT■!S. PROHIBITED USES ARE KIND OF TYPICAL OF OUR LIST OF BAIL BONDS, PAYDAY LOANS, BAIT VAPE, TOBACCO SHOPS, GAS STATIONS, CAR WASHES, SELF STORAGE. DOG WASHING ICE MACHINES, STANDALONE KIOSKS, AND THEN AUTO SALES PARTS AND REPAIR. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THIS, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY SPECIAL SETBACKS OR LANDSCAPING.

THIS IS GOING TO BE ENTIRELY WITHIN THE CITY'S ADOPTED CODE. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE ON THE LANDSCAPING IS THAT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SCREEN THAT MULTIFAMILY THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE COMMERCIAL. SO PRETTY HAPPY WITH THE THE NO VARIANCES. AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RESIDENTIAL USES AGAIN IT'S 630 UNIT MAXIMUM. IT'S GOING TO BE TWO MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS. IT WILL BE A TYPICAL MARKET RATE. AND THEN A TAX CREDIT PROJECT. SOME ADDITIONAL USES. ARE ANY USES ALLOWED IN THE COMMERCIAL. SO IF ONE OF THE APARTMENTS WANTED TO DO SOME GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT, WHICH WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE AR33, THEY DO HAVE SOME VARIANCES. BUILDING HEIGHT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT FOUR STORIES AND 55FT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT SETBACKS AT 20FT TO PASTRANO SENIOR PARKWAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'LL EVEN GET THAT CLOSE. IF YOU NOTICED ON THE MAP THERE IS A VERY LARGE ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION LINE EASEMENT THERE. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALMOST 100FT WIDE, SO THEY PROBABLY WON'T GET INTO ANYWHERE THERE, EXCEPT MAYBE AT THE NORTHERN END CLOSER TO 150. AGAIN, LANDSCAPING IS GOING TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR OUR CITY'S LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE, AND PARKING IS 1.5 UNITS SPACES PER UNIT. THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE 10% GUEST PARKING, AND THEN 20% OF THE OVERALL PARKING WILL BE COVERED. SINGLE FAMILY LAND USES. THERE ARE 330 MAXIMUM UNITS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE DETACHED, FRONT LOADED, DETACHED, ALI LOADED, TOWNHOMES, PATIO HOMES OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. THERE ARE NO MINIMUMS LISTED FOR EITHER TYPE IN THIS PUD. THAT WAS A COMMENT MADE EARLIER TONIGHT. SO SOMETHING FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AS YOU MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS ARE THE BASIC SETBACKS. AGAIN 15 AND TEN CORNER SIDES ARE TEN SIDES 550 FOR THE TOWNHOMES REAR. PRETTY STANDARD. THESE ARE THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGES. SO DETACHED FRONT LOADS ARE

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4000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM. LOT ALLEYS ARE 3000 SQUARE FOOT AND THEN TOWNHOMES ARE 1200 SQUARE FOOT. IMPERVIOUS COVERS ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY. YOU'LL SEE 90% THERE. THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THOSE THOSE PROPERTIES WILL BE BUILT LOT LINE TO LOT LINE WITH A COMMON WALL GARAGE PLACEMENT, SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THEM QUITE A BIT. SO FRONT LOADED PRODUCTS, THEY HAVE A MINIMUM 20 FOOT FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE. THEY MAY NOT EXTEND TO THE FRONT OF THE FACADE OF THE HOUSE, SO THAT WILL PREVENT ANY KIND OF TYPICAL SNOUT HOUSES THAT YOU SEE. DETACHED ALLEY LOADED. AGAIN. THEY'RE BEHIND TOWNHOMES, PATIOS. THEY'LL BEHIND THE MAIN STRUCTURE AS WELL. WHEN WE LOOKED AT PARKING FOR THIS AREA, THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT HAVE PASEOS. SO THAT FRONT OF THE HOUSE ACTUALLY OPENS UP TO KIND OF A PARK AREA. SO THEY'RE ONLY PARKING IS IN THE REAR. THEY DON'T HAVE A STREET PARKING. SO GUEST PARKING WAS A CONCERN FOR US. SO THEY'RE DOING TWO PER UNIT FOR FRONT LOADED, TWO PER UNIT ON REAR LOADED PLUS 25% VISITOR PARKING. THAT PARKING CAN BE DONE EITHER ALONG RIGHT OF WAYS OR AT PARK AREAS. WE'LL SEE THAT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN. WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE THOSE ARE GOING TO GO. THE DEVELOPER WILL OUTLINE THAT AND THEN GARAGES, 70% OF ALL LOTS WILL HAVE THE GARAGES. THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW SOME SURFACE PARKING OR CARPORTS FOR REAR LOADED PRODUCTS. ONLY. WATER CONSERVATION WAS A BIG DISCUSSION WITH THE THE STAFF AND THE TEAM. THEY ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT ASPECTS OF ONE WATER. SO ONE WATER IS KIND OF A HOLISTIC APPROACH OF CAPTURING AND REUSING WATER ON YOUR SITE. THERE'S 100 THINGS IN THERE THAT CAN BE DONE. THEY'RE GOING TO UTILIZE SOME OF THESE, WHICH IS NATIVE DROUGHT TOLERANT LANDSCAPING, ARTIFICIAL TURF, MULCH OR AGGREGATE. THEY DO WANT TO UTILIZE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT DESIGNS, DRAINAGE SWALES, RAIN GARDENS AND THEN ULTIMATELY ALL THE WATER FROM THEIR DETENTION POND IS GOING TO BE CAPTURED, PUMPED BACK UP TO A WATER STORAGE TANK AND THAT WILL BE UTILIZED TO LANDSCAPE, IRRIGATE THEIR LANDSCAPING AND SERVE THE PROPERTY. SO HOPEFULLY LOWERING OUR RELIANCE ON OUR POTABLE WATER SUPPLY. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS PROPERTY WAS IDENTIFIED AS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL. THIS IS VERY GENERAL LOCATION, AS YOU CAN SEE, BY THE KIND OF CIRCLE THE CONSULTANTS FELT THAT WITH THIS VACANT LAND, THAT THERE'D BE SOME KIND OF REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA. IT'S ALSO TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO, THE PROPOSED USES FIT WITH WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MIXED USE TYPOLOGIES, YOU SEE THE TERM MANY OVER. THAT'S A FANCY WAY OF SAYING APARTMENT WITH GROUND FLOOR RETAIL. SO THE R3 THREE DOES ALLOW THE LAND USE. THIS PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE A MINIMUM, BUT IT DOES ALLOW THAT USE. SO IT WOULD MEET WITH THE COMP PLAN. WHEN WE LOOKED AT A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF THIS, WE KIND OF BROKE IT DOWN ON REVENUES THAT WE WOULD BE TAKING IN. SOME OF THEM ARE ONE TIME REVENUES, SOME OF THEM ARE ANNUAL REVENUES. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL REVENUE. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY BUILDING PERMITS, ANY SITE PLAN, ANY CONSTRUCTION PLANS. IT'S BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY TAX BASED ON THEIR IMPROVEMENTS, THE PILOT YEAR PAYMENT IN YEAR ONE, AND THEN PILOT PAYMENTS 16 THROUGH 30. THERE'S THE VALUE OF THE CITY CIVIC SITE AGAIN, THREE ACRES.

THERE'S THE SALES, PROJECTED SALES TAX REVENUE, IMPACT FEES FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.

BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WILL BE COLLECTING BOTH IF WE APPROVE THE CCN SWAP. THERE'S THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEE AND THEN THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AGAIN COULD BE UP TO 3 MILLION ON ON THAT VALUE OF LAND. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL REVENUE VALUE THAT COULD BE GENERATED FOR THIS PROJECT OVER 30 YEARS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 69 TO 72 MILLION. AGAIN, THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL REVENUES GENERATED FOR THAT, BUT IT ROUGHLY GOING TO AVERAGE 2.3 TO 2.4 PER YEAR MOVING FORWARD. SO WE DID GO TO PNC. ON SEPTEMBER 23RD. WE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING. THEY MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVED A VOTE OF SIX ZERO. THEY DID REQUEST A COUPLE OF CHANGES OR RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO COUNCIL. THEY WANTED TO REQUIRE ANY STRUCTURES LOCATED WITHIN PARCELS ONE AND TWO. THAT'S THE MULTIFAMILY TRACT AND THE COMMERCIAL TRACT GO THROUGH THE CUP PROCESS. THEY WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE ELEVATIONS AND BE ABLE TO APPROVE THEM AND NOT HAVE IT ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. THEY DID WANT TO LIMIT ANY SATELLITE PARKING FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, FOR GUEST PARKING TO TRAILHEADS, RETAIL AREAS, OR CIVIC LOCATIONS. IF THEY'RE GOING TO COUNT PARKING ON THE STREET AS THEIR GUEST PARKING, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT MEETS THE MINIMUM WIDTHS THAT WOULD ALLOW FIRE, LIFE, SAFETY AND PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. SO IF THEY HAVE STREETS SMALLER THAN THAT, THAT COULD AFFECT SOME OF THEIR PARKING AND THEIR LAYOUT. PNC ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THEY UPDATE THE BACKUP ATTACHMENTS. SO WHEN THE PUD IMAGES, WHAT YOU GOT IN YOUR PACKET WOULD

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SHOW THE NEW IMAGES AND RENDERINGS OF THE COMMERCIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING ELEVATIONS. SO THOSE WERE UPDATED PRIOR TO TO TONIGHT. AND THEN THEY ADD A STATEMENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY DESCRIPTION CLARIFYING THAT BOTH ALLEY LOAD AND FRONT LOAD CONFIGURATIONS WILL BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT. SO I DO WANT TO MENTION THOUGH ON THIS ONE, I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS IS ON BOARD WITH ALL OF THESE CHANGES. THEY DO HAVE ONE REGARDING THE CUP. THEY HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT THEY'D PROBABLY LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. AND THEN I'LL WE CAN TURN IT OVER TO THEM WHEN APPROPRIATE. SO AT THIS TIME, MAYOR, IF YOU CAN OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, RECEIVE COMMENTS AND CLOSE THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR EACH OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S ON BOARD. AND THEN YOU CAN CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON THOSE EACH INDIVIDUALLY. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS POINT YOUR YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR RECOMMEND DENIAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF OPTION ONE ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE ANNEX ORDINANCE THAT'S APPROVED AS PRESENTED. AND THEN FOR THE PUD ORDINANCE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED PUD WITH THE PNC RECOMMENDED CHANGES. SO AT THIS TIME, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THAT. THE DEVELOPERS HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. ALL RIGHT.

THIS ITEM HAS TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF THE 101.13 ACRES. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THE ANNEXATION, MR. ROACH? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I KNOW IT'S LONG, KENNETH. WHAT'S YOUR HOMETOWN? KYLE. SO IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR ALL OF THIS, FOR PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE TO HAPPEN IN SEQUENCE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE ANNEXATION, YOU HAVE THE PUD OR THE REZONING, AND YOU HAVE THE PYD. MY REQUEST, AND I DO HAVE TO AMEND. I THOUGHT IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I SAID, PULL IT. I KNOW IT'S NOT WAS TO ALLOW THE PIT HEARING TO HAPPEN. I KNOW EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ASKED TO DIGEST TODAY INCLUDES THE NTSB'S RECOMMENDATION. AND AS DILIGENT AS YOU WERE WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO THE SAME WITH THE PNC BOARD AND TAKE THIS MASSIVE PROJECT INTO CONSIDERATION PIECE BY PIECE, LUMPING IT ALL TOGETHER.

THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE MISSED. RIGHT. AND SO I UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO BE DILIGENT WITH IT. AND STAFF HAS BEEN. AND SO MY ASK IS JUST TO ALLOW THE PIT HEARING TO HAPPEN ON THE 21ST AND THEN ALLOW THE ANNEXATION TO DEVELOP AGREEMENT. AND THE OTHER ONES HAPPEN THE FOLLOWING COUNCIL MEETING. THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE EVEN THE DISCUSSIONS TODAY AND PUBLIC COMMENT WAS THAT SOME CONCERN REGARDING THE CUP AND SOME OF THE TOWNHOMES. THAT WAY WE CAN FLUSH OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, WHAT THE. DEVELOPER IS AMENABLE TO AS WELL, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS THE AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE MOSTLY IMPACTED. THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 21ST, FOR US TO DIGEST THAT AND THEN BRING HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING ALL TOGETHER AT ONCE.

SO THAT'S MY ASK AND YOUR CONSIDERATION IS APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS THE APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE THE ACRES ACREAGE AND THE PUD. SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THE ZONING? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR FOR COUNCIL IN PARTICULAR. I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO ENGAGE WITH THE DEVELOPERS. MAYOR PRO TEM, GO AHEAD. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. JASON, DO YOU GUYS MIND ONE OF Y'ALL COMING FORWARD? WITH ATX CAPITAL, THE DEVELOPER. THANK YOU. DO YOU? DURING THE PNC MEETING, YOU WERE ASKED TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO A SPECIFIC QUANTITY OF TOWNHOMES AS PART OF THE 330 MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT WERE THAT ARE LISTED IN THIS PRESENTATION. AND YOU SAID THAT THE MARKET DOESN'T THE MARKET AND KYLE DOESN'T COMMAND THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT. AND, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THAT WHERE THAT INFORMATION OR DATA IS COMING FROM TO SAY THAT. AND. YOU KNOW, LET'S START THERE. SINCE WE'VE

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BEEN WORKING ON ON THIS PROJECT, THE START OF THIS YEAR, WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL HOMEBUILDERS THAT ARE ACTIVE IN KYLE. AND IT BASICALLY COMES FROM THEM FROM FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM FROM SOME OF THE HOMEBUILDERS, IT IS SPECIFIC TO CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS AND CURRENT MARKET DYNAMICS, AND SPECIFIC TO THE PARTICULAR HOMEBUILDERS THAT WE ARE TALKING TO. SO IT'S NOT A BROAD STATEMENT ABOUT THE DEMAND OR LACK OF DEMAND IN KYLE FOR FOR TOWNHOME PRODUCT. IT'S MORE SO THE INTEREST THAT WE'RE THAT'S BEING RELAYED TO US FROM THE HOMEBUILDERS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWING MORE OF AN INTEREST IN IN THE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO THIS IS SOMETHING MY COLLEAGUES KNOW.

THIS IS SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT A GREAT DEAL I KNOW THE WIEGAND FAMILY IS HERE. AND JUST JUST, YOU KNOW, TALKING DIRECTLY TO YOU GUYS WITH THIS PROJECT CAME FORWARD CAME BACK EARLY LAST YEAR, AND I WAS TRYING AS HARD AS I CAN TO CARRY THIS PROJECT FORWARD AS TO BE A HOUSING, TO BE A HOUSING SOLUTION TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT GIVEN THE CURRENT CONSTRUCT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT EXISTS IN OUR CITY, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ONE PRODUCT AND A LOT OF ANOTHER, AND WE DON'T HAVE THERE'S A MISSING MIDDLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE THE, THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT WE HAVE. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 73 OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU WILL SEE THAT SINGLE FAMILY ALLOWS FOR ADUS, COTTAGE COURTS, TOWNHOMES, SMALL PLEXES, NONE OF WHICH ARE TOWNHOMES. EXCUSE ME, BUT NOT A QUANTITY OF TOWNHOMES. NONE OF THOSE OTHER THINGS ARE INCLUDED IN UNDER THE SINGLE FAMILY UMBRELLA FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD HELP TO INCREASE THE DIVERSIFICATION OF OUR HOUSING PRODUCT HERE IN THE CITY. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY HAVING MORE PRICE POINTS FOR FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP IS IMPORTANT. IT PROMOTES AFFORDABILITY, PREVENTS DISPLACEMENT, CREATES MORE PATHWAYS TO OWNERSHIP BALANCES. OUR TAX BASE ALSO PUTS LESS STRAIN ON OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE NEED TO INVEST IN MORE FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT IS BETTER FOR LAND SUSTAINABILITY AND WATER EFFICIENCY, AND ALSO IT PROMOTES A MORE WIDE RANGING.

WIDE RANGE OF AGES OF PEOPLE WHO CAN LIVE IN OUR CITY AND AFFORD TO LIVE IN OUR CITY. SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS. THOSE WERE THE REASONS WHY I WAS INTERESTED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT TO BEGIN WITH. AND THEN THERE WAS A CHANGE SOMETIME EARLY THIS YEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAME ON BOARD AND THE PROJECT, IN MY OPINION, LOST ALL OF THAT OUTSIDE OF JUST THE SMALL NUMBER OF OF, YOU KNOW, QUOTE UNQUOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS THAT IS TIED INTO THE MULTIFAMILY. SO IT'S IT'S FRUSTRATING TO BE SITTING HERE KNOWING HOW MUCH WATER I CARRIED FOR THIS PROJECT FOR VERY SPECIFIC REASONS. AND I FEEL LIKE THOSE REASONS WERE CONVEYED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM A FEW DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE DEAL POINTS THAT WE NEGOTIATED WITH THE FIRST GROUP WHO WAS WORKING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, THOSE DEAL POINTS CARRIED OVER WHEN YOU GUYS TOOK CONTROL OF THIS, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT ANY SORT OF ANY OF THE COMMENTARY THAT I JUST MADE AROUND HOUSING, NONE OF THAT CARRIED OVER. AND THAT TO ME IS VERY FRUSTRATING. AND TO THEN SEE THAT WHEN ASKED IF YOU GUYS WOULD MAKE A COMMITMENT TO THE TO THE SINGLE THING, THE SINGLE HOUSING PRODUCT THAT HAS ALLOWS FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP, THAT THE TOWNHOMES, YOU GUYS DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A COMMITMENT BECAUSE THE WAY THAT IT FELT IS A VIEWER AT HOME IS THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A PRODUCT THAT YOU NEEDED TO BUILD TO FILL A NEED IN THE CITY. AND I DON'T I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYONE WHO AGREES WITH THAT STATEMENT. I UNDERSTAND THE CONDITIONS FOR YOU GUYS AND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD IN THE MODELS AROUND HOME BUILDING, BUT IN ORDER FOR ME TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, I'M GOING TO NEED YOU GUYS TO MAKE COMMITMENTS TO CERTAIN QUANTITIES BECAUSE OTHERWISE THIS IS JUST A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT LIKE THIS IS GIVING US THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN TERMS OF HOUSING. AND I KNOW IT SOLVES, YOU KNOW, CHECK THE BOX FOR YOU GUYS, BUT IT DOESN'T FOR US. LIKE IT DOESN'T FILL ANY OF THE

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GAPS, LIKE EVEN THE, THE, THE PRESENCE OF MULTIFAMILY IS NOT IN LINE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LIKE THIS AREA DOES NOT. IT PROHIBITS MULTIFAMILY BEING BUILT. WE'RE MAKING CONCESSIONS ON THAT FOR YOU GUYS. WITH THIS PROJECT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO TO CONSIDER MAKING THOSE CONCESSIONS. YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE STATING WITH YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S NO NEED THAT THAT PUT THAT ASIDE BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED. WE HAVE A NEED FOR IT. IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE PRICE POINT TO BUY A HOME IS $360,000 IN THE CITY. THAT IS WAY TOO EXPENSIVE FOR IF WE WANT TO PROMOTE CONTINUITY IN OUR CITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE MOST AFFORDABLE, MOST VULNERABLE TO ALL THE INCREASES THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH WATER, WASTEWATER, TRACK, EVERYTHING IS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE. WE NEED TO BE DOING AS MANY THINGS FROM HERE AS WE CAN TO TRY TO MAKE THAT LESS PAINFUL FOR PEOPLE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO THE GROUP THAT WE THAT 20% OF THE 330 UNITS BE COMMITTED TO TOWNHOMES. AND WITH THAT SAID, LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE IT CAN'T JUST ALL BE DONE IN LIKE THE LAST PHASE OF THE PROJECT, LIKE THERE NEEDS IT NEEDS TO BE DISPERSED WITHIN THE PHASING OF OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH I THINK IS PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO AND PHASE FOUR. IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. IS THAT SOMETHING WITH ALL? SORRY FOR ALL OF THAT. BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD COMMIT TO? LIKE? IT'S ONLY THE ONLY THING I CARE ABOUT WITH THIS PROJECT. YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR FOR FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. AND ACTUALLY, AFTER THE LAST MEETING, WE DID HEAR THE THE FEEDBACK LOUD AND CLEAR. AND WE WEREN'T READY TO MAKE A COMMITMENT AT THAT TIME. AND ACTUALLY PART OF IT, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT OR ENVISION TOWNHOMES AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. EVEN IN THE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT JASON DID. WE DO HAVE TOWNHOMES CONTEMPLATE AS PART OF THE PROJECT. WE'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO MAINTAIN MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE WANT THE SITE TO BE DEVELOPED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND BUT BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUR OUR INTENT TO DEVELOP TOWNHOMES HERE. WE WE BELIEVE IN IN THAT PRODUCT TYPE. WE WE ARE THE THE PRODUCT TYPE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROPOSING IS OTHER THAN TOWNHOMES HAS BEEN A MIX OF 45 AND 35 FOOT LOTS AND THE 35 FOOT LOTS. WE DO SEE THEM AS AS AIMING FOR THAT MISSING MIDDLE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ATTACHED PRODUCT. IT IS DETACHED PRODUCT, BUT IT IT'S A SIMILAR, SLIGHTLY HIGHER PRICE POINT, BUT IT IS LOWER THAN THAN THE AVERAGE HOME PRICE IN KYLE. AND THUS IT IS TARGETED TOWARDS THAT MISSING MIDDLE. BUT WITH WITH ALL THAT SAID, WE WE CAN MAKE A COMMITMENT TO TO TOWNHOMES. THE ONLY MY ONLY CONCERN WITH WITH 20% IS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOSE SOME SOME FLEXIBILITY OR MOMENTUM, PARTICULARLY EARLY IN THE EARLIER PHASES OF THE PROJECT. I DO THINK THAT AS AS A RETAIL STARTS BEING DEVELOPED, IT'LL BE MORE THERE WILL BE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP DENSER PROJECT PRODUCT. BUT BUT IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WE CAN ACCOMMODATE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN COMMIT RIGHT NOW TO THE 20%, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING CLOSER TO 10 OR 15% WE COULD COMMIT TO RIGHT NOW.

AND IF NOT THE 20, LET US LET US GO BACK AND REVIEW AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BEFORE WE COMMIT TO THAT. OKAY? I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO HAVE IRONED OUT IN THE PUD WHEN THAT TIME COMES. IF WE CAN DO THAT. ALL RIGHT, I'LL HANG ON. LET'S, LET'S LET'S LINGER ON THAT FOR JUST A SECOND. SO WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT COME BACK AND NOT BE NECESSARILY WHAT WE WHAT WE'RE NEGOTIATING FOR HERE. SO JUST TO JUST TO SORT OF REITERATE, I DO AGREE. AND I'VE HEARD THROUGH THE YEARS, MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO SEE TOWNHOME PRODUCT. AND THROUGH THE YEARS I'VE BEEN TOLD BY DEVELOPERS, IN PARTICULAR HOMEBUILDERS, THAT THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT IS IS NOT FEASIBLE. AND THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS RESPOND AND SAY, WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MARKETABLE UNTIL YOU BUILD IT. AND IF YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT MARKETABLE AND YOU DON'T BUILD IT, HOW WILL YOU EVER KNOW? AND THE ONLY TOWNHOME PRODUCTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF KYLE ARE LIKE IN PLUM CREEK AREA AND A FEW OTHER SPOTS, AND THEY ALL DO EXTREMELY WELL, AND THEY DO PROVIDE FOR THAT MISSING MIDDLE, BUT THERE'S NOT THAT MANY. AND SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SAY THAT YOU WOULD COMMIT TO A CERTAIN USE. AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT OUR, THE PNC CHAIR WHO CAME AND SPOKE SAID, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF DOWN THE ROAD IT JUST BECOMES THE CASE THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY

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CANNOT GET A TOWNHOME PRODUCT. YOU'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME BACK AND APPLY FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT I THINK THAT COMMITMENT IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IN THIS AGREEMENT, TO FEEL LIKE IT ACTUALLY FULFILLS THE VISION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO IF THE 20% IS NOT SOMETHING, THEN THAT YOU CAN COMMIT TO, CAN YOU GIVE US A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT YOU MIGHT BE PURSUING? AND FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A SALE, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN THE WAY THE FINANCIALS ARE STRUCTURED, YOU'VE PROBABLY GOT A DEAL ON THE TABLE FOR AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE MULTIFAMILY. THAT'S WHAT THAT THAT SALE, THAT TRANSACTION IS WHAT'S GOING TO ALLOW FOR YOU TO PAY INTO THE SYSTEM. AND IT'S WHAT'S ALLOWING FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND ALL THE FINANCIALS AROUND THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PARTICULAR PART OF IT. BUT I DO THINK AN AGGREGATE OF SOMETHING LIKE 20% AS FAR AS THE OVERALL LAND USE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. SO CAN CAN YOU WORK WITH STAFF TO BRING BACK SOMETHING, EVEN IF YOU'RE TWEAKING IT IN ORDER TO FACILITATE WHAT YOU'VE GOT ON THE TABLE? THAT OBVIOUSLY IS WHAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS DEAL HAPPEN. CAN YOU BRING SOMETHING BACK THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS REQUESTING, SO THAT WE DON'T GET TO THIS POINT ON THE 21ST AND STILL BE MISALIGNED? YES, WE CAN. OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS, CAN I CHANGE THE TOPIC? YES. SLIGHT CHANGE. ON THE. ON WHAT YOU'RE CALLING THE ONE WATER. I DON'T FIND THAT TO BE ONE WATER AT ALL. THAT IS LANDSCAPING AND RUNOFF MANAGEMENT. THOSE ARE BOTH IMPORTANT AND THOSE PLANS ARE GOOD FOR THAT. I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST CONDENSATE RECAPTURE OR CAPTURE FOR WATERING IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE APARTMENTS AND THE RETAIL. I'M NOT EXPECTING THAT ON THE SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE VERY PRACTICAL AROUND THE RETAIL AND THE APARTMENTS. IT WOULD BE A DRIP, PROBABLY JUST A DRIP IRRIGATION FOR THE LANDSCAPING IMMEDIATELY THERE, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY PROVIDE A WATER SAVINGS. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING THROUGH WITH STAFF.

AND EARLY, EARLY ON, THEY STAFF DID A GOOD JOB AT POINTING US TO A PROJECT THAT'S A REFERENCE IN WIMBERLEY THAT VERY SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED SOME OF THE APPROACHES OF ONE WATER, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH, WITH A COMPANY THAT THAT DESIGNED THAT SYSTEM. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL. THAT'S RIGHT. INNOVATIVE WATER SOLUTIONS IS A COMPANY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO, AND THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WITH ONE WATER AND AND WORK PROACTIVELY AT IMPLEMENTING THAT APPROACH IN MANY PROJECTS. AND WE WE'VE DISCUSSED WHAT THAT BASICALLY THAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING IS THE MOST EFFICIENT AND POWERFUL WAY IN WHICH WE CAN REUSE THE WATER IN OUR SITE. CONSIDERING THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A 98 ACRE PROPERTY, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, AND EVERYTHING'S GOING TO DRAIN TO THE DETENTION POND. AND IF WE CAN PUMP THAT WATER FROM THE DETENTION POND INTO A VERY LARGE STORAGE TANK, WE COULD COLLECT A LOT MORE WATER THAN WHAT WE COULD COLLECT FROM FROM THE ROOFS, FROM THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS. AND THAT'S SUGGESTING ROOF CAPTURE. I'M SUGGESTING JUST THE AC UNIT CONDENSATE TO BE USED AROUND THE BUILDINGS IMMEDIATELY. THE ONE WATER AT THE SCHOOL IS VERY COMPLEX, AND IT TRULY IS ONE WATER. IT HAS OUTSTANDING. I'D LOVE TO SEE ALL OF OUR NEW BUILDINGS GO TO THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY PRACTICAL FOR US RIGHT NOW. I KNOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE IT AT LEAST TO HAVE THE CONDENSATE CAPTURE. AND AS FAR AS USING THE RUNOFF AND THE POND, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE GOOD, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT SO MANY OF THE RETENTION PONDS HAVE NO WATER IN THEM DURING THE SUMMER, WHICH IS WHEN YOU NEED MOST OF THE WATER. SO I DON'T THINK YOU CAN COUNT ON BEING ABLE TO USE THAT FOR ANY KIND OF IRRIGATION, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING INTO THIS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO INCORPORATE AS MANY ASPECTS OF WATER AS WE CAN, AND THE AC CONDENSATE IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT. AND SO WE'VE WE'VE BEEN RESEARCHING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND WE'VE WE'VE MET WITH MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS ASKED ABOUT THAT.

IT'S MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS AREN'T ALSO VERY FAMILIAR WITH WITH HOW TO DO THAT. THE THE

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EVEN IN THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, WE'RE TALKING MULTIPLE BUILDINGS FOR EACH PROJECT, PROBABLY AROUND EIGHT OR SO BUILDINGS, AND EACH UNIT IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN THEIR OWN SYSTEM. WE WON'T HAVE A CENTRALIZED SYSTEM. AND SO TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT THE CONDENSATE FROM THE AC FOR EACH UNIT, IT WOULD REQUIRE A VERY COMPLEX NETWORK OF PIPES TO BE ABLE TO TO COLLECT ALL THAT. AND AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH, WITH INNOVATIVE WATER SOLUTIONS AS WELL, TO SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT, THAT THEY CAN POINT US TO SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THEM AND LEARN HOW IT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN SIMILAR PROJECTS.

AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COME ACROSS ONE YET. AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK ON THAT TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE CAN COMMIT TO. BUT BUT RIGHT NOW, WE JUST HAVEN'T FOUND A, A SIMILAR PROJECT THAT HAS IMPLEMENTED THE AC CONDENSATE SOLUTION. IF, IF IT YOU SEE IT MORE IN, IN LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS OR EVEN HIGH RISE APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT HAS VERTICAL PLUMBING STRUCTURE. BUT IN OURS IT'S GOING TO BE THREE STORY BUILDINGS. IT'S MORE OF A HORIZONTAL STRUCTURE. AND SO IT BECOMES A LOT MORE DIFFICULT TO TO IMPLEMENT THE AC CONCEPT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TO LOOK INTO THAT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT AND BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK ON THE PAD. YES. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH. THE OUTLET MALLS IN SAN MARCOS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH WATER CAPTURE. IF YOU WANT TO GO AND SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE, I'D PROBABLY HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT THEY JUST GOT AN AWARD LAST YEAR ON THEIR WATER CAPTURE PROGRAM FROM THEIR CONDENSATION FROM AC. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING JUST TO HELP OUT A LITTLE BIT. JUST WANTED TO HELP Y'ALL. BUT THE OTHER THING I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE TURF. WE'VE GOT SOME TURF AROUND THERE. WHAT KIND OF TURF ARE WE USING, OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A TURF, OR IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DESIGNED TO DEFLECT A LOT OF THAT HEAT ISLAND THAT TURF DOES? WHAT WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING WITH THE TURF RIGHT NOW? WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A SPECIFIC PLANS OR REALLY THE INTENT TO USE A LOT OF IT. IT WAS REALLY MORE SO INCLUDED AS ANOTHER WAY TO USE LESS WATER AND HAVE LESS, LESS AREA TO IRRIGATE. SO NOT, NOT NOT REALLY ANY SPECIFIC PLANS FOR MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN SOME NATIVE, YOU KNOW, XERISCAPING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TURF, MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING TURF THAT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE A BARRIER FROM WATER GOING INTO THE GROUND, MAKING SURE IT'S NOT A THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF TURF OUT THERE. SO THERE'S SOME IT'S THE GRANULES YOU USE IN TURF AS WELL MAKING SURE USE SOMETHING THAT'S BIODEGRADABLE, MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT USING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT, YOU KNOW, THE WATER SYSTEMS AROUND US. SO WE DO HAVE SOME PONDS IN THE AREA, SOME CREEKS AS WELL. THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PHASING SCHEDULE. WHEN ARE WE LOOKING AT DOING THE COURTS FOR BASKETBALL AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER? WHAT STAGES ARE THOSE COMING ONLINE? THOSE ARE PLANNED TO COME ONLINE BY THE 200TH HOME SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO PROBABLY IN THE SECOND PHASE, SECOND PHASE, DURING THE SECOND PHASE. AND WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE THAT IT'S GOING TO GO ON? WHAT IF YOU GET ALL YOUR MULTIFAMILY AND DECIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE DONE? WHAT ASSURANCES DO I HAVE? DO WE HAVE AS A CITY THAT THOSE COMMUNITY CENTERS WILL COME FORWARD AND THE BASKETBALL GOALS AS WELL THE, THE, THE, THE COURTS ARE TIED TO THE SPECIFICALLY TO THE SINGLE FAMILY. SO BASICALLY, IF WE DON'T BUILD THOSE COURTS, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO ON AFTER THE 200TH HOME. SO WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO AFTER THOSE. SO WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE I JUST KEEP THINKING YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT MULTIFAMILY COMING IN. THOSE COURTS WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE PEOPLE IN MULTIFAMILY. I THINK THE COURT ASPECT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING I'D PUSH TO GET A LITTLE SOONER, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT MULTIFAMILY COMING IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER. I PROBABLY COULD WAIT UNTIL THE REST OF THE ROOFTOPS ARE COMING IN, BUT I THINK THE COURTS ARE GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO HAVING THAT SINGLE FAMILY, BECAUSE, I MEAN, MULTIFAMILY, BECAUSE YOU GOT THESE PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS NOW THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO GO. IF WE COULD MOVE THAT PHASING UP JUST ON THE COURTS, THAT'S NOT A BIG LIFT. I MEAN, IT'S NOT THAT EXPENSIVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE MOVING THAT ONE UP A LITTLE BIT. WE COULD WE CAN DEFINITELY MOVE UP AND THE BASKETBALL COURTS TO PHASE ONE.

YEAH THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY ON SCHEDULE WITH EVERYTHING. LOOK WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DEVELOPERS COME UP HERE AND PROMISES A LOT OF STUFF. AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK WE'RE PICKING ON YOU. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN PROMISED THE MOON A BUNCH OF TIMES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING THAT WE WE'RE PUSHING TO THE COMMUNITY SAYING, THIS IS WHY

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THIS PROJECT IS SO GOOD. THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE ROADWAYS, BECAUSE IT'S GOOD PROJECT. WE'RE GOING TO BRING SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I CONCUR WITH MAYOR PRO TEM THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR IS MORE, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, TOWNHOMES. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT THAT PRODUCT, AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE. I THINK IT WILL BE VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR YOU MOVING FORWARD. SO IF Y'ALL COULD COMMIT TO IT, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU COULD BE THE FIRST TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DID IT AND IT'S SUCCESSFUL AND PUT PUT THAT DEVELOPMENT TO OTHERS AS WELL. MAYBE YOU'LL BE THE CATALYST FOR IT. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT I'M THINKING IT WILL BE A GREAT PRODUCT FOR Y'ALL HONESTLY. SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES. AND THEN JUST MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL MY CONCERNS RIGHT NOW, AND JUST MAKING SURE YOU UPHOLD YOUR PART OF THE DEAL WHEN IT COMES TO PHASING. OH, MY LAST THING IS THE 158 BRIAN. 158 CAN WE GO BACK TO THE MAP FOR 158, PLEASE? WHERE IT SHOWS? 158 150 THE PROJECTS SO WE CAN SEE BOTH ROADS AFTER. THANK YOU, MR. WIZARD. WOW, THAT WAS QUICK. HE'S HE'S ALWAYS WATCHING. OH RIGHT HERE. YEAH THAT ONE WILL WORK RIGHT THERE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT 158 RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW THE WIDTH OF THE PROJECT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE ROAD RIGHT THERE. 150. THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. STATE HIGHWAY BUT 158. WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT ONCE WE ANNEX THIS PROPERTY. MAKE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO FOR THAT SEGMENT RIGHT THERE? YOU GOT A SINGLE.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SINGLE LANE OF ROAD. IT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TWO LANE, BUT IT FEELS LIKE A SINGLE LANE. WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THE TURNING RADIUS, FOR IMPROVING THAT SMALL SECTION OF ROADWAY? I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO THE ENTIRE 158, BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY ROAD'S GOING TO IT COULD BE BUILT IN PROCESSES, RIGHT? IN PHASES. WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THIS SECTION? AND THAT WAY WHEN WE GO TO DO MORE OF THE 158, IF WE ANNEX MORE OF IT, OR THE COUNTY BRINGS SOMETHING FOR IT, WE'RE SLOWLY BUILDING THIS AND MAKING IT A SAFER ROAD. WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THAT SECTION RIGHT THERE JUST TO MAKE IT SAFER, TO GET IN AND OUT? BECAUSE I CAN ALREADY SEE THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS. THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS TO TO IMPROVE ROAD SAFETY. I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GO INTO ANY DETAILS RIGHT AT THIS TIME WITHOUT WITHOUT HAVING THE FULL REVIEW OF THE TIA AND GOING THROUGH AND AND SEEING WHAT ELSE, WHAT SYSTEMS ARE AFFECTED, WHETHER IT'S WIDENING TURN LANES, DECEL LANE, I'M SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME REQUIREMENTS AS PART OF THAT TIA, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE REQUIRING THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SOUNDS GOOD. AND AS LONG AS WE ADDRESS THAT, MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN. LOOK, HONESTLY, IF WE'RE DOING SECTIONS AT A TIME, EVENTUALLY WE GET TO THE WHOLE ROAD, RIGHT? BUT MAKING SURE AS DEVELOPMENTS COME IN, WE'VE GOT SOME DEVELOPMENTS ALREADY. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING THAT WITH THOSE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT. I WASN'T AROUND BACK THEN, BUT NOW THAT I'M AROUND, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO IMPROVE ROAD AND SAFETY IN THOSE ROADS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY WERE OLD. AS COUNCILOR TOBIAS ALSO ALLUDES TO. THESE WERE, YOU KNOW, FARM ROADS MADE FOR TRACTORS AND PICKUP TRUCKS. AND NOW WE'RE PUTTING ALL THIS TRAFFIC ON THERE. SO MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING IMPROVEMENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT ROAD BE GREAT. EVERY SECTION THAT WE CAN. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA. THANK YOU. GEORGE, I THINK IT'S IT'S A REALLY NICE PROJECT. WE'VE LOOKED AT IT FOR MANY YEARS. I MEAN, TWO YEARS. I'VE SEEN THIS PROJECT COME BACK IN DIFFERENT SHAPES, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE UP HERE AND TRY TO COMMIT TO THIS VERSATILITY.

IT'S COMPLEX WITH THE WITH EVERYTHING INVOLVED. ONE THING I SEE WITH TOWNHOMES IS THEY JUST BECOME GOOD INVESTMENTS FOR OTHER PEOPLE. SO ALTHOUGH YOU'RE TRYING TO SERVE A DEMAND AND A NEED FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN GET INTO A LOWER BARRIER, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WITH MORE MONEY CAN JUST BUY THEM OFF AND THEY BECOME INVESTMENTS THAT THEY'RE HOLDING TO. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT'S WHY I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT. YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT'S WHAT'S BROUGHT INTO THE PRODUCT. THEN I, I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD THAT THE RETAIL HERE REALLY BENEFITS THE DEVELOPMENT FOR YOU IN THE PHASES THAT IT GETS COMPLETED AND THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIAL BASIC SERVICES THAT ARE USEFUL FOR FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE LIVING LIVING HERE, THOSE THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS TO THIS PROJECT OF YOURS. THANK YOU. AND I AGREE, THE RETAIL IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PUTTING A LOT OF EMPHASIS IN, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A CRUCIAL PART FOR THE FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT, PARTICULARLY IF WE ARE DOING MORE DENSE PRODUCT TYPE THAN WE'RE GOING TO. THOSE BUYERS ARE GOING TO NEED THE PROXIMITY TO RETAIL SERVICES. AND THEN I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, BUT FOR STAFF FOR BRIAN. SO I GET A LOT OF CONCERNS. OBVIOUSLY I

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LIVE IN THIS AREA, SO I'M GOING TO HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ON. ONE 5158 I KNOW THIS IS A DIVERSION OF SOME OF THE TRAFFIC FROM 150, BUT THERE'S STILL NOT A LOT OF WAYS OUT OF THERE. IN THE FUTURE, THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF MOVING ON TO THE FUTURE OF GOFORTH, BUT WHERE ARE WE WITH THE CONVERSATIONS, TIMELINES WITH TEXDOT? I KNOW IT'S A IT'S A STATE FM 150 AND WHERE ARE WE WITH 158 LIKE ONCE THIS IS BUILT? THIS IS A KEY PART INTERSECTION BETWEEN BOTH OF THOSE MAJOR ROADS. SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THOSE PARTNERS TO TELL THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THIS? WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE BRINGING MORE TRAFFIC, BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH TXDOT, WHICH IS A MAJOR PLAYER HERE ON 150 AND 158 BECAUSE BECAUSE THERE, AS WE'VE DONE WITH THE OTHER ROAD PROJECTS, WHEN WE GET TO A POINT WHERE THE ROAD COULD BE BETTER IMPROVED, IF WE JUST REACHED OUT AND DID A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES A BETTER, A BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO REASSURE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING INTO ANYMORE. THAT SURE.

WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? YEAH. MIKE TRIMBLE, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS TO THAT. ONE IS WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY TO DO A STUDY OF FM 150 IN THIS AREA, HOW TO IMPROVE MOBILITY AND SAFETY. ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO BE INCORPORATING THAT AND LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT KR 158 AS PART OF THE KYLE MOBILITY PLAN. AND THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS NEXT SPRING IN 2026 SO THAT THAT ANALYSIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A FROM A MOBILITY STANDPOINT. WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ANGLES RIGHT NOW. AND WE'LL BE PARTNERING WITH TXDOT ALONG THE WAY ON THAT. AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THE ONE THE ORANGE AND ROAD 150 REALIGNMENT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OFF OF 150 ONCE THE NEW ARLINGTON ROAD BYPASS INTERSECTION LOOP COMES INTO PLAY, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OFF 150 AND 158. THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT ROAD FOR US. I DID GET CONFIRMATION THE COUNTY DID GO FORWARD WITH THE CO BOND.

THEY GOT THE DOLLARS. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND GO COUNTY. THAT'S GOOD. AND I GUESS BRIAN I KNOW THERE WAS A SLIDE HERE ABOUT THE TOTAL REVENUES OVER THE 30 YEARS. AND THAT THAT KIND OF SEEMS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE COST OF THIS, THE THE PARK MAINTENANCE, THE STAFF, MORE, MORE OFFICERS. SO WHERE, WHERE WOULD THAT NUMBER, I GUESS, REALLY BE? YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU INCLUDE THE, THE 30 YEARS THAT WE DO STREET MAINTENANCE, PARK MAINTENANCE, THERE'S CLEARLY COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OVER THAT 30 YEAR PERIOD AS WELL. WHAT WE WANTED TO SHOW IS THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE REVENUES THAT WE THOUGHT WERE GOING TO BE THERE FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SOURCES. SO YOU COULD SEE ALL THOSE IN ONE PLACE. WE WENT THROUGH THE AGREEMENT. THERE WERE LOTS OF PIECES, THE PILOT PAYMENT, THERE WERE IMPACT FEES, THERE WERE COMMERCIAL. WE WANTED TO COLLAPSE ALL THAT IN ONE PLACE. YOU COULD SEE IT. IT'S A VERY LARGE NUMBER. ADMITTEDLY, THERE ARE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE COSTS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER, BUT THERE'S SOME VERY LARGE REVENUES THAT YOU'RE GETTING RIGHT OFF THE BAT ON. I THINK IT WAS 14 MILLION FOR IMPACT FEES. RIGHT UP, UP FRONT, YOU HAVE THE $3.5 MILLION PILOT PAYMENT, THOSE THINGS RIGHT UP FRONT TO HELP. AND THE DONATION OF THE LAND FOR THE ROAD THAT HELPED GET THAT PROJECT MOVING.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO SHOW WITH THAT. IT'S IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A FULL REVENUE AND COST ANALYSIS OF THE, OF THE PROPOSAL, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A MAGNITUDE OF IT AND TO SHOW IT ALL IN ONE PLACE. YEAH, I GET THE SENSE THAT IT WOULD BE NET POSITIVE ONCE WE FACTORED IN SEWERS, DRAINS, YOU KNOW, WASTEWATER, ALL THE STUFF WE HAVE TO PUT INTO IT THAT HOPEFULLY IT BECOMES NET POSITIVE AFTER. RIGHT. AND THOSE CUSTOMERS WILL BE PAYING WATER AND SEWER RATES ON THOSE UTILITIES, WHICH THOSE RATES ARE DESIGNED TO RECOVER, THE COST OF THOSE PIPES AND ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF THOSE SERVICES OVER TIME AS WELL. SO THAT'S MEANT TO BE A SELF-SUPPORTING SYSTEM WITH THE UTILITIES. BUT THE OTHER GENERAL GOVERNMENT TYPE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE THE DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS POLICE, FIRE, ROAD MAINTENANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT. AND I JUST HAVE TO ASK, UTILITIES WILL BE UNDERGROUND HERE AS WELL. NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE POLES RIGHT OFF OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. INFRASTRUCTURE IS REQUIRED TO BE UNDERGROUND. I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN INTO SCHEMATIC DESIGN ON WHAT'S EXISTING, BUT IF PRETTY MUCH IF THEY TOUCH IT OR REPLACE IT, THEN IT GENERALLY HAS TO GO UNDERGROUND. YES, SIR. OKAY.

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ANYTHING ELSE? SO ON THE PNC RECOMMENDATIONS YOU ARE GOOD WITH EVERYTHING. YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CUP? THE THE CUP PROCESS, AS IT WAS DESCRIBED TO ME, WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY ITEMS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL BUT WOULD ONLY COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND AS LONG AS IT WAS COMPLIANT WITH THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED. IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WHAT THAT DOES IS GIVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING JUST A CHANCE TO CONTINUE TO INTERACT WITH THE PROJECT AS IT MOVES FORWARD. SO IS THAT A, YOU KNOW, OUR ORIGINAL REBECCA LEONARD PLANNER WITH LIONHEART? OUR ORIGINAL HOPE WAS THAT THIS COULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SPENDING ALL THESE MONTHS, AS YOU'VE SAID, WORKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND MEETING OR EXCEEDING YOUR REQUIREMENTS AT THE CITY. AND AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING DURING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED, AND IT WOULD JUST CREATE ONE MORE STEP IN THIS PROCESS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE HOPE WITH THE PUD IS THAT IT CAN BE A STREAMLINED PROCESS FROM HERE ON OUT, MOVING FORWARD FOR IMPLEMENTATION. WELL, BUT, BUT BUT BY BY LAW, IF WE ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH A PUD THAT HAS DEVELOPER AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO IT, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WOULD BE REQUIRED AS LONG AS IT WAS COMPLIANT WITH THAT, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO APPROVE SUCH AN ITEM. AND SO IT DOES GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO CONTINUE TO INTERACT WITH THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND TO, YOU KNOW, ENSURE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE CIVILIAN SIDE, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN ONES, ENSURING COMPLIANCE, BUT THEN IT WOULD GIVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND NOT THE ELECTEDS BUT THE PLANNING BODY, JUST LIKE BEFORE, THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE SOME REALLY IMPORTANT RECOMMENDATIONS. IT WOULD GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS COMPLIANT WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD. SO I JUST I'M, YOU KNOW, JUST GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT AS AN IDEA, ALTHOUGH I DO VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN OF NOT WANTING SOME BODY OR BOARD TO RENEGOTIATE THE DEAL MOVING FORWARD. BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN'T DO THAT BY RULE. AND SO IT'S KIND OF A WHY WOULDN'T YOU ALLOW FOR THAT PROCESS THE WAY WE WE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, IT WOULD GIVE THEM SAY OVER, WE WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO RE-APPROVE THINGS LIKE THE BUILDING MASS, THE HEIGHT, THE, THE, THE MASONRY AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'LL HAVE A MINIMUM 40% MASONRY ON THE ON THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT IS GOING TO IS OPENED UP IN THIS UP. AND SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE NEGOTIATED THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CLARITY AROUND RIGHT NOW AS WE'RE GETTING THE PROPERTY ENTITLED. WELL, I WILL I WILL ADMIT, AND THIS IS A STATEMENT TO COUNCIL, THAT THAT IS CORRECT, THAT STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. AND SO THERE IS NOT A WHOLE LOT FOR PNC TO DO OTHER THAN TO DISAGREE, I SUPPOSE. AND THEY CAN'T REALLY NECESSARILY DISAGREE IF WE'VE AS LONG AS IT'S COMPLIANT. SO I'M I'M OKAY WITH IT EITHER WAY ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL HAD A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ITEM AND DECIDE FOR YOURSELVES WHETHER YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT ISSUE HAPPEN. WHEN THE PLUM CREEK DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS COME, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS A HEADACHE. SO BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR US, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE NEW PEOPLE ELECTED TO COUNCIL AND THEY WANT TO VOTE THE WAY THEY WANT TO VOTE, AS OPPOSED TO THE WAY A CONTRACT WAS PUT TOGETHER. AND SO I'M OKAY WITH IT EITHER WAY. BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE A DECISION. SO WE CAN EITHER SAY YES TO THAT OR MOVE ON FROM IT? I'M OKAY WITH EITHER WAY, BUT MAYBE STAFF COULD IF THEY FEEL THE NEED, AND ASK PNC TO LOOK AT SOMETHING IF THEY FEEL THE NEED. I MEAN, BUT I WOULD TRUST STAFF TO OVERSEE THE THE CONTRACT AND THE DEA COUNCILMAN. WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT SPEAKS TO THAT. SO CURRENTLY, IF THEY WERE TO MAKE A CHANGE IN ONE OF THEIR PROJECTS OR DO SOMETHING THAT WE FELT DIDN'T MEET THE CODE, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SEND THAT TO PNC TO KIND OF REVIEW. AND THEN IF THEY DON'T LIKE NZ'S RECOMMENDATION, THEN IT CAN COME TO COUNCIL. SO WE HAVE BAKED THAT INTO THE DOCUMENT AHEAD OF TIME. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO MAKE IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 37, 38 AND 39 WITH ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS RECOMMENDED PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CHANGES EXCEPT FOR THE CUP ITEM, THE INCREASE OF THE PHASING ON THE AS IT RELATES TO THE BASKETBALL COURTS GOING FROM PHASE TWO TO GUARANTEED IN THE CONTRACT TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN BY THE END OF PHASE ONE AND PROPOSAL THAT INCLUDES 20% OF TOWNHOMES TO BE DELIVERED THROUGHOUT THE PHASING OF THE PROJECT. SECOND MOTION SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS. IS

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THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? WOULD YOU ADD RESEARCH ON THE. WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO RESEARCH ON THE WATER CAPTURE. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO. AND I YOU KNOW SO FOR FOR ME I WOULDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY MAKE THAT A DEMAND RIGHT NOW IF THERE'S NOT A PROJECT THAT'S NEARBY THAT THEY CAN WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE ON, ON PHASE TWO ON, I MEAN, AT THE, AT THE, AT THE SECOND MEETING ON THAT. OKAY. SO OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? 20% ON THE TOWNHOMES. 20% ON TOWNHOMES.

YES. NOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK IT OUT WITH STAFF. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DO THINK THEY NEED TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY ON HOW THEY PUT THAT INTO THE PROJECT. CORRECT. SO AND I'M I'M I'M I WOULD RATHER JUST BE JUST AS HAPPY TO SEE SOME OF THAT COME OUT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY AS OUT OF THE MULTIFAMILY, BUT THAT'S ME PERSONALLY. AS LONG AS IT GETS THERE AND IS SATISFACTORY TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM. YOU KNOW, I'M GOOD WITH THAT AND I'D BE GOOD WITH THAT AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. SO SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING. PLUS P P AND Z RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN IT COMES BACK NEXT READING. IT SHOULD COME BACK FOR SECOND READING WITH ALL OF THOSE CHANGES. BUT I'M QUITE CERTAIN THIS BODY WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT THAT THEY'RE ALL THERE OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO BE FLEXIBLE ON THAT, NOT TO HOLD THEM ON 20%. BUT JUST WHAT IF IT'S A REASONABLE GOOD FAITH ATTEMPT BECAUSE WE'VE NOT DONE THAT FOR. HOW THEY DELIVER THE RIGHT. BUT I THINK IT'S VERY REASONABLE. THEY CAN BE CREATIVE. RIGHT. SO 2020 IS JUST GETTING THE OKAY. THEY COULD ALWAYS COME BACK FOR AMENDMENT. RIGHT. WELL I WANT THEM THAT WAY. YOU KNOW CREATIVE WITH IT RIGHT. THAT'S JUST MADE IT A LITTLE MORE CLOUDY FOR ME. YEAH. NO 20% DELIVERED IN THE AGREEMENT 20%.

20%. LET'S GO ON. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. SEE YOU IN A FEW WEEKS. THANK YOU. MAYOR

[40) Consider approval of a resolution to submit the City Council's nomination(s) for the two upcoming Director positions for appointment to serve on the Board of Directors of the Hays Central Appraisal District.]

COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 40. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO SUBMIT THE CITY COUNCIL'S NOMINATIONS FOR TWO UPCOMING DIRECTOR POSITIONS. FOR APPOINTMENT TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE HAYES CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. MR. MOHIT. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD, I'M PERVEZ MOHAN, CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE. A QUICK REMINDER THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, AND AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK FOR CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION REAL, REAL QUICKLY.

MOST OF THIS WILL LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU. SO THE CITY OF KYLE HAS RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE CHIEF APPRAISER OF HAYES CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL'S NOMINATIONS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE HAYES. THERE ARE TWO DIRECTOR POSITIONS COMING UP FOR APPOINTMENT. BOTH DIRECTOR POSITIONS ARE FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM THAT BEGINS JANUARY 1ST, 2026 AND ENDS DECEMBER 31ST, 2029. THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT THE NOMINATIONS TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER IS BEFORE OCTOBER 15TH, WHICH MEANS THAT THE COUNCIL, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO NOMINATE ANYONE, IT'LL HAVE TO BE TONIGHT. THE NOMINATION MUST BE SUBMITTED IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF NINE DIRECTOR POSITIONS ON THE BOARD. FIVE ARE APPOINTED BY THE TAXING UNITS, THREE ARE ELECTED BY MAJORITY VOTE AT GENERAL ELECTION, AND THE NINTH ONE IS THE EX OFFICIO DIRECTOR POSITION SERVED BY THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR. THE TWO DIRECTOR POSITIONS, WHOSE TERM ENDS ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2025, ARE CURRENTLY REPRESENTED BY DRIPPING SPRINGS ISD AND HAYS C-I-S-D. THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS MUST BE RESIDENT OF THE DISTRICT. MUST HAVE RESIDED IN THE DISTRICT FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE DATE THE NOMINEE TAKES OFFICE. A ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN SERVE AN EMPLOYEE OF A TAXING UNIT THAT PARTICIPATES IN THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, SUCH AS THE CITY MANAGER FINANCE DIRECTOR. WE ARE INELIGIBLE. A PERSON MAY NOT SERVE IF THEY'RE ENGAGED IN APPRAISING PROPERTY FOR COMPENSATION IN PRECEDING THREE YEARS, OR HAS BEEN AN EMPLOYEE OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN THE PRECEDING THREE YEARS. RECOMMENDATION BY THE CHIEF APPRAISER. WHEN CONSIDERING A NOMINEE, THEY RECOMMEND EXPERTISE IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT, INFORMATION SYSTEMS, COMPUTERS, ACCOUNTING, FINANCE, REAL ESTATE, AND TAXATION. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES ALLOCATED

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TO THE CITY OF KYLE IS BASED ON THE 2024 TAX LEVY OF EACH TAXING UNIT, SO THERE'S A TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES ALLOCATED 2000 VOTES AMONGST ALL TAXING JURISDICTIONS. CITY OF KYLE HAS BEEN ALLOCATED 4% OR 81 VOTES. THE KEY DATES ARE WE. IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO NOMINATE, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT IT PRIOR TO OCTOBER 15TH. BY OCTOBER 30TH, THE CHIEF APPRAISER WILL PREPARE BALLOTS LISTING THE CANDIDATES AND SEND IT BACK TO THE JURISDICTIONS. AND THEN THE TAXING UNITS MUST CAST THEIR VOTES BY DECEMBER 15TH. SO THE OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT ARE. OPTION ONE. NOMINATIONS BY CITY COUNCIL AND APPROVED THE RESOLUTION TODAY FOR SUBMISSION TO CHIEF APPRAISER BEFORE OCTOBER 15TH. THIS IS AN OPTION, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. OPTION TWO NO NOMINATIONS BY CITY COUNCIL TO SUBMIT, BUT WAIT FOR THE BALLOT TO COME BACK FROM THE CHIEF APPRAISER. THEN YOU CAST VOTE AS TO ONE OF THOSE NOMINATED ON THE ON THE BALLOT, AND OPTION THREE COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO TO DO. SO HERE WE ARE SEEKING YOUR DIRECTION. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE CAN NOMINATE ANYBODY FROM COUNCIL OR STAFF. IS THAT ACCURATE. COUNCIL FOR SURE. BUT STAFF WOULD BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE MOST OF US DEAL WITH THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT. WHAT ABOUT LIKE DAVID LOPEZ. OKAY. HONESTLY IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE THE VOTES. IT'S GOING TO BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS THAT VOTE ON THIS.

DEFINITELY WANT TO BRING SOMEBODY IN THAT WOULD GET THE VOTES, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY DIFFICULT. OR WE COULD JUST SIT BACK AND WAIT TO SEE WHO'S NOMINATED FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND THEN THROW OUR VOTES THAT WAY. IT'S KIND OF HOW THIS WORKS. I LEARNED THE PROCESS LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT SERVING ON THIS BOARD, AND SAW HOW THE VOTES COME FORWARD. IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY TEDIOUS WAY TO GET ON THERE. IT'S NOT EASY ON YOU. YOU GOT TO WORK A DEAL WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. YEAH, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA WORK WITH A LOT OF ENTITIES. SAN MARCOS HAYS. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO WORK VOTES IN. IT'S IT'S REALLY TOUGH, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WHOEVER YOU NOMINATE HAS THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A PART OF THIS BOARD. IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE.

AND THEY HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF MATH. SO I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WON'T NOMINATE.

BUT ANYWAY JUST JUST JOKING. BUT ANYWAY NO, JUST JUST KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IT'LL BE A TOUGH PROCESS TO GET ON THERE. I TRY TO GET ON THERE. LAST YEAR I KIND OF FELT LIKE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THE APPRAISALS WERE NOT FAIR AND DIDN'T REALLY TAKE THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, IN ACCOUNT. AND I TRY TO GET ON THERE LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS JUST A ROUGH PROCESS. SO WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO BE NOMINATED OR SERVE, I DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE MY VOTE.

DO WE NOT HAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD'S NOMINATIONS YET? NO, WE WON'T SEE IT UNTIL AFTER OCTOBER 15TH. WELL, CAN'T WE WAIT AND SEE? SEE WHO THEY NOMINATE? THAT WOULD BE OPTION NUMBER TWO. YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. THAT'S WORKED. AND THEN YOU CAN GET BEHIND SOME, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATE WITHIN YOUR REGION KIND OF THING. LET THEM TAKE THE LEAD BUT SHOW THEM THE SUPPORT. BUT THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE CAN NOMINATE SOMEONE.

THAT'S RIGHT. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE ON THE BALLOT, I WOULD GO WITH OPTION TWO, BECAUSE THAT WAY THE LIST MIGHT CHANGE FROM THE PEOPLE WE HAD LAST YEAR, AND AT LEAST WE CAN BE ABLE TO VET TO SEE WHO ACTUALLY WOULD BE QUALIFIED FROM THAT, FROM THAT AREA. AND LIKE I SAID, COUNCILMAN RIZZO, YEAH, YOU DID PUT ON THERE, BUT IT IS A VERY STRENUOUS I HEARD THEY'RE VERY PICKY ON WHO THEY THEY SELECT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN ALL FIVE OF THOSE CATEGORIES IN A SENSE, NOT JUST, YEAH, I'M A BUSINESS, I'M A BUSINESSMAN OR WHATEVER. AND I HAVE THIS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE ALL YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW WITH ALL THOSE THINGS. WELL, IT REALLY WASN'T THE STATE LAWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT WASN'T REALLY THE REQUIREMENTS THAT GOT ME. IT'S ALL THE DIFFERENT VOTING ENTITIES. THE REQUIREMENTS AREN'T THAT STRENUOUS. IT'S THE VOTING ENTITIES. YOU GOT TO GET THE BUY IN OF EVERYBODY AROUND YOU AND YOU'RE JUST DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. SORRY, I'M NOT TALKING RIGHT NOW, BUT YEAH,

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IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET THOSE VOTES. IT'S THE VOTES THAT ARE HARD TO GET GET, UNLESS YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED TO EVERYBODY PRIOR TRYING TO SOLICIT VOTES AND YOU CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, MY SCHEDULE IS REALLY BUSY. I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MY NAME IN AGAIN THIS YEAR BECAUSE I'VE JUST GOT TOO MUCH ON MY PLATE ALREADY. IT'S IT'S HARD TO WIN WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE 4% OF THE VOTE TO START WITH. YEAH, YEAH.

SO BUT I WOULD SAY IF YOU, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SERVING AND YOU CAN GET THEM TO NOMINATE YOU, THEN YOUR CHANCES GO UP DRAMATICALLY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. MOTION FOR OPTION TWO. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS.

[41) (First Reading) Consider approval of an Ordinance amending Ch. 53A, Art. II, Pt. B, Sec. 5 of the Code of Ordinances to reduce the "Front Yard" setbacks from 15 feet to 5 feet, reduce the "Side Yard" setbacks from 15 feet to 5 feet, and reduce the "Rear Yard" setbacks from 10 feet to 5 feet in the PC R-3 Multi-Family Residential PUD District of the Plum Creek Planned Unit Development (“Plum Creek PUD”). (Z-25-0139) Public Hearing ]

FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM 41, FIRST READING. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ARTICLE TWO, PART B, SECTION FIVE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE TO REDUCE FRONT YARD SETBACK FROM 15FT TO 5FT. REDUCE SIDE YARD SETBACK FROM 15FT TO 5FT, AND REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACKS FROM 10FT TO 5FT IN THE PLUM CREEK R-3 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT OF PLUM CREEK. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING. MISS SHARP, THANKS FOR STAYING WITH US. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, KAYLA SHARP, SENIOR PLANNER. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A SOME PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE PLUM CREEK PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO THE SETBACKS IN THE R-3 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SO THE THE MAP ON THE SCREEN HERE KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE AREAS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AFFECTED BY THIS, AS WELL AS UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES. SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A REFERENCE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT VERY MUCH PROPERTY LEFT UNDEVELOPED IN PLUM CREEK AT THIS POINT. SO JUST KIND OF SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THE PLUM CREEK PUD WAS CREATED IN 1997 AND HAS BEEN AMENDED PERIODICALLY TO REFLECT EVOLVING DEVELOPMENT GOALS. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TONIGHT ARE BEING REQUESTED TO BETTER ALIGN WITH THE GOALS AND VISION OF PLUM CREEK, AND THE REDUCED SETBACKS WILL SUPPORT A MORE URBAN AND PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

SO THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE REDUCING THE FRONT SETBACK FROM 15FT TO 5FT, SIDE SETBACK FROM 15FT TO 5FT, AND REAR SETBACK FROM 10FT TO 5FT. LIKE I SAID, THESE CHANGES WILL ONLY APPLY TO PROPERTIES DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE R-3 STANDARDS. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE R3 R3 DEVELOPMENTS ARE ALLOWED IN, OF COURSE, THE R3 ZONING DISTRICT, BUT ALSO IN THE PLUM CREEK MIXED. SO LIKE I SAID, THE PROPOSED SETBACKS WILL. HELP CREATE A MORE URBAN, WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. THESE SETBACKS WILL ALSO BRING SEVERAL EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS INTO COMPLIANCE AND ALSO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS. BUT THIS WILL NOT MODIFY ANY SETBACK OR BUFFER REQUIREMENTS ADJACENT TO OTHER RESIDENTIAL PUD DISTRICTS. SO IF YOU'RE ADJACENT TO LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY PUD DISTRICT, THERE WOULD STILL BE LIKE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT WON'T AFFECT ANY OF THAT. AND NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO MAXIMUM HEIGHT, DENSITY OR PERMITTED USES. JUST THE SETBACKS. SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS BETTER ALIGN WITH THE GOALS AND VISION OF PLUM CREEK. AND STAFF HAS FOUND THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS, THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LONG TERM VISION AND GOALS OF THE PLUM CREEK COMMUNITY. SO, KAYLA, WE RECOMMEND WE TOOK THIS VOTE MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS COMING BACK? WHY DID THE FIRST VOTE TO REDUCE TERRY MIGHT BE THE ONE TO ACTUALLY SPEAK TO THIS, BUT WHY IS WHY DID THE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS HAVE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK, NOT 15. AND WE TOOK A VOTE ON THAT. SO DO YOU KNOW WHY IT'S COMING BACK OR DID THAT NOT HOLD OR WHAT. WHAT AM I MISSING. WHY ARE WE HAVING TO DO THIS AGAIN? SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT WAS MAYBE MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION. I'M NOT SURE IF TERRY, WE TOOK A VOTE ON IT FOR SURE. I REMEMBER IT, OKAY. FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT WASN'T AMENDED ACTUALLY IN THE CODE. OKAY. AND SO NOW WE'RE KIND OF CORRECTING THAT AND CODIFYING IT HERE.

WELL, I HAVE ONE I HAVE ONE THOUGHT AND TERRY MAY NOT LOVE THIS, BUT SO I DO I DO AGREE WITH THE URBAN DESIGN AND THE MIXED USE DISTRICT. AND SO THAT'S A 15 FOOT SETBACK. IS, IS IS REALLY DOESN'T MAKE A TON OF SENSE. BUT ONE THING I DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT THE ORIGINAL APARTMENTS WAS THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT LEAD TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S BUILDING, SIDEWALKS ON THE CITY, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE MUCH WIDER AND MORE WALKABLE. BUT IT'S PRETTY CRAMPED. AND I SEE PEOPLE HAVING TO, LIKE, WALK OFF THE SIDEWALK IF BASICALLY IF TWO PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND. AND SO WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT THE DEVELOPER WOULD, AND THE APARTMENT BUILDERS AND MASTER PLANNERS

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AND ALL INVOLVED BE INTERESTED IN WIDENING THE SIDEWALKS AS THEY AS IT RELATES TO GOING IN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT WIDTH IS, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY HAVE TO BE THE VIBE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT A SLIGHT AMOUNT OF INCREASE IN THE SIDEWALKS, I THINK WOULD WOULD MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE WALKABILITY FACTOR, WHICH IS WHAT THE URBAN MODEL IS SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE BETTER. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IN EXCHANGE FOR THE FIVE FOOT SETBACKS? MAYBE ADD TWO FEET IN A EXCUSE ME, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TERRY MITCHELL. I'M PART OF THE PLUM CREEK TEAM. AND BY THE WAY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WE HOPE TO START IN IN A FEW WEEKS, 201 TOWNHOMES IN PLUM CREEK. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL COME OUT AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. I DON'T HAVE A CONCEPTUAL PROBLEM WITH YOUR REQUEST AT ALL. WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IS IF IT HAS ANY COMMERCIAL MEANING, RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL USE WHATSOEVER, THEN IT'S A FULL TEN FEET OR SO OR MORE I'M TALKING ABOUT IN FRONT OF THE APARTMENTS THAT THAT YOU BUILD, LIKE BASICALLY FROM THE, FROM WHATEVER THE SIDE STREET IS JUST, JUST BEHIND ARC. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN THERE THIS WIDE. I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY NOT NOT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS COMING WHEN I SAW HIM GO IN MY OWN PERSONAL PRACTICE HAS BEEN NEVER DO ANYTHING LESS THAN FIVE FEET. AND THEN WHERE THERE'S DEFINITELY A FIVE FEET.

OKAY, WELL THEN I'LL COMMIT TO FIVE FEET RIGHT NOW IN AREAS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE HIGH TRAFFIC, WE'LL DO SIX FEET ANYWAY, JUST BECAUSE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC GOING BACK AND FORTH, YOU WANT TWO STROLLERS TO PASS EACH OTHER KIND OF THING. JASON, DO YOU DO YOU KNOW, BY ANY CHANCE, DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE AS YOU'RE DRIVING IN? THAT'S A LIKE EXISTING THE EXISTING BRICK AND MORTAR APARTMENTS? YES. THOSE ARE GENERALLY PRETTY WIDE, I DON'T KNOW, AN ADJACENT LOT. I MEAN, WE CAN GET YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ON THAT, BUT WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE PLANS. SO WIDER THAN WHAT'S THE BRICK AND MORTAR IS WHAT HE'S ASKING. THAT'S WHAT I IF IT'S IF I, MAYBE I'M SPATIALLY CHALLENGED AND IT IS FIVE FEET I JUST I'M IT'S DEFINITELY NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR MY VIEW OF IT AND THE INTERACTION BECAUSE I'VE WALKED UP AND DOWN GOING, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO PARK IN A PARKING LOT, THEY'RE WALKING TO A FESTIVAL AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO I JUST, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GO TO SIX FEET IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT? JUST DO. SIX FEET IS A MINIMUM IN THE BRICK AND MORTAR AND RAISED AREAS. AND THAT WAY WE WON'T HAVE AN ISSUE THAT'S NOT GOING TO THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK A PROJECT I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE AMENDMENT. MAYOR, THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO OPENING A PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NONE. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SEE THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. NOW, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM, REDUCING THE SETBACKS FROM 15FT TO 5FT. BUT CHANGE THE IN THE APPROPRIATE AGREEMENT THAT ALL SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE BRICK AND MORTAR APARTMENT COMPLEX, DISTRICT, MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL AREA AND MIXED USE WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET OF SIDEWALK. SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. WE WERE DOING THE SETBACKS. IF WE WERE WIDENING THE SIDEWALKS AND THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SO YEP. YEAH.

THERE'S A MOTION BY MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR HARRIS. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH, DEFINITELY. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SETBACKS. I FIGURED THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT WAS TO MAKE WIDER SIDEWALKS. SO I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING TO GO SIX FEET. IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE WALKABILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE GOT FIVE TRAILS GOING IN ALL OVER THE CITY OF KYLE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. AND STAFF AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, LET'S MAKE WALKABLE SIDEWALKS IN OUR PROJECTS PLEASE. SO ALL RIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU TERRY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS AGENDA

[42) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding the launch of the City of Kyle's online, interactive Annual Budget Book for Fiscal Year 2025-26.]

ITEM 42. RECEIVER REPORT, WHOLE DISCUSSION. PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING THE LAUNCH OF THE CITY OF KYLE'S ONLINE INTERACTIVE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526. HOLLY HOLT TORRES. YES? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. HOLLY HOLT TORRES. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, FINANCIAL SERVICES, IS VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS EVENING TO BRIEF ON THE LAUNCH OF THE CITY OF KYLE'S FIRST EVER ONLINE BUDGET BOOK FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 2526 AND PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, THIS ONLINE BUDGET BOOK IS TO SERVE AS A DIGITAL, INTERACTIVE, USER FRIENDLY VERSION OF THE CITY OF KYLE'S TRADITIONAL BUDGET BOOK WITH ALL OF THE SAME COMPONENTS AND REPORTS, BUT WITH SOME FEW EXTRAS THROWN IN. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL HAS BEEN BRIEFED PREVIOUSLY ON THE CITY'S ACQUISITION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF OPENGOV. THROUGH THIS INNOVATIVE SOFTWARE, THE CITY LAUNCHED THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, CLOSELY FOLLOWED BY THE OPEN DATA AND TRANSPARENCY PORTAL IN MARCH. SO THE LAUNCH OF THIS ONLINE BUDGET BOOK IS ESSENTIALLY THE

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THIRD PHASE OF A CITYWIDE INITIATIVE FOCUSED ON TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

JUST VERY HIGH LEVEL. FOR THIS EVENING, I WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW KEY COMPONENTS OF THE BUDGET BOOK. SO THIS BUDGET BOOK IS COMPREHENSIVE. IT CONTAINS NEARLY 90 FINANCIAL REPORTS, ALL GENERATED THROUGH THE OPENGOV PLATFORM. IT IS GFOA COMPLIANT. GFOA REQUIRES CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES TO SUBMIT A BUDGET BOOK NO LATER THAN 90 DAYS FROM THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR. THIS ONLINE BUDGET BOOK MEETS ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND EXCEEDS THEM.

IT IS TRANSPARENT. ALL OF THE FINANCIAL REPORTS ON THE ONLINE BUDGET BOOK CAN BE LOOKED AT AT A FUND LEVEL, FUND LEVEL. EXCUSE ME. DEPARTMENT LEVEL, DIVISION LEVEL AND GENERAL LEDGER LINE LEVEL, WHICH IS THE INDIVIDUAL LINES ON A FISCAL REPORT. IT IS ALSO USER FRIENDLY. ANY REPORT OR PIECE OF INFORMATION YOU COULD HOPE TO GAIN THROUGH THIS ONLINE BUDGET BOOK CAN BE ACHIEVED IN ONE TWO CLICKS. AT THE MOST. IT IS ENGAGING AND IT'S ALSO TRANSLATABLE. WE HAVE A REALLY NEAT FEATURE ABOUT OUR TRANSLATION THAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. AND SO WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A FULL SENSE OF FULL SCOPE OF THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF THE ONLINE BUDGET BOOK BEFORE IT LAUNCHES. WE DO ENCOURAGE YOU, ONCE IT LAUNCHES, TO TAKE YOUR TIME AND NAVIGATE THROUGH THE SYSTEM, WE THINK YOU'LL FIND IT TO BE A REALLY KEEN RESOURCE FOR YOUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO THE SITE AND CITY LEADERSHIP AS WELL. BUT FOR SOME CONTEXT, THE OPEN THE ONLINE BUDGET BOOK IS EMBEDDED IN THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL, AND YOU'LL NOTICE AT THIS TIME THERE'S A PDF LINK. BUT ONCE IT LAUNCHES, IT WILL TAKE YOU RIGHT INTO THE BUDGET BOOK. AND WE'VE EMBEDDED A VIDEO TO SHOW YOU SORT OF THE LOOK AND FEEL OF IT. SO VISITORS WILL COME IN. THAT'S THE HOME PAGE. THEY'LL BE MET WITH A MESSAGE, AND THEN A LOVELY VIDEO BY THE CITY MANAGER, WHO GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO PROVIDE IT. THE VIDEO SHOWS VERY HIGH LEVEL HOW TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE SYSTEM. SORT OF SUMMARY HIGHLIGHTS HOW THE SYSTEM IS INTERACTIVE, HOW DATA IS SHOWN IN DIFFERENT VISUAL WAYS, HOW YOU CAN DRILL DOWN INTO THOSE VISUALS AND LOOK AT RAW DATA IF YOU'D LIKE, AND THEN FURTHER DOWN STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. AND HOW IN THE CITY OF KYLE, WE USE ALL OF THAT TO SHAPE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT. FURTHER DOWN THERE IS A NAVIGATION SITE ALSO, BUT AT THE TOP YOU'LL NOTICE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT ARE DROPDOWNS THAT WILL HELP YOU NAVIGATE THE SITE TO DIFFERENT REPORTS. EACH DEPARTMENT HAS ITS OWN PAGE.

YOU'LL SEE IT HAS ITS OWN DROPDOWN, VERY SIMILAR TEMPLATE FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT.

INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT. HIGH LEVEL FY 26 BUDGET ITEM INFORMATION. THE BUDGET REPORT, WHETHER IT HAS REVENUES AND EXPENSES WILL BOTH BE EMBEDDED HERE. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THE SITE IS FULLY TRANSLATABLE. SO I'VE SELECTED IT IN SPANISH. YOU CAN SELECT IT IN ANY LANGUAGE YOU'D LIKE TO NAVIGATE THE SITE OR RECEIVE YOUR INFORMATION. BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT A REALLY KEEN FEATURE ABOUT THIS. WE REALLY WANTED TO IN THE IN THE SPIRIT OF INCLUSIVITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS, INSTEAD OF THE TRANSLATION JUST BEING AT THE MAJOR CONTEXT LEVEL, JUST THE MAIN CONTEXT ON THE PAGE, YOU'LL NOTICE, AND I'VE STOPPED IT HERE, THAT THE FINANCIAL REPORT IS ALSO TRANSLATED. SO THE GENERAL LEDGER LINES ARE ALSO TRANSLATED. SO INSTEAD OF SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND FOOD UNIFORMS YOU'LL SEE THE UNIFORMS. IT'S GOING TO TRANSLATE TO THE LINE. AND THAT IS REALLY A REMARKABLE FEATURE.

AND SO WE'RE PROUD OF THAT TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO OUR RESIDENTS. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT MEETS OUR RESIDENTS WHERE THEY ARE. WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE SOME TIME IN YOUR FREE TIME TO, AS I SAID, NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM. WE THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT IT'S REALLY AN INCREDIBLE RESOURCE. IT'S MUCH MORE ROBUST THAN I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW YOU THIS EVENING, BUT I THINK YOU WILL SEE THAT. AND I ALSO WANT TO TAKE TIME TO THANK CITY LEADERSHIP FOR THEIR SUPPORT IN THIS PROGRAM, AND PARTICULARLY THE FINANCIAL SERVICES STAFF ON RECORD. I GET THE BENEFIT OF PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION, BUT THE HEAVY LIFTING WAS IN LARGE PART DONE BY THE FINANCIAL SERVICES STAFF. SO A PUBLICLY A VERY BIG THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK? COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY. YEAH, I, I GOT KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED AND WAS GOING AROUND, AND I HAVE BEEN GEEKING OVER THIS EVER SINCE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY FOR THE CITY LIKE THIS IS BEYOND PHENOMENAL. THIS IS THIS IS AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT TO DRILL DOWN TO. YES, IT IS JUST ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE AGREE WE FEEL VERY MUCH THE SAME WAY. I JUST KEEP THINKING ABOUT EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE AS A CITY TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT. OUR ENHANCING OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, MAKING SURE WE'RE GETTING MORE DATA OUT TO THE RESIDENTS. BUT THIS IS THE NEXT LEVEL. THIS IS REALLY AMAZING. I FEEL LIKE, MARK, I'M LIKE, MAN, LET'S GET EVERYTHING OUT THERE. LET'S THIS WAY PEOPLE CAN LOOK AND GO ONLINE WHEN THEY'VE GOT

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QUESTIONS, THEY CAN GO AND DO THE RESEARCH FOR THEMSELVES. IT'S THERE. THE NUMBERS ARE THERE, THE DATA, EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BUNCH OF OPEN RECORDS. THEY CAN JUST BRING IT UP AND IT'S THERE. IT'S PRETTY AMAZING. SO I'M I'M I'M GEEKING OUT OF IT AS WELL. SO GREAT. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE FISCAL REPORTS CAN ALSO BE SAVED TO YOUR LAPTOP OR DESKTOP. THEY CAN BE PRINTED. SO IT BECOMES MUCH MORE THAN AN ONLINE BUDGET BOOK. IT REALLY BECOMES A RESOURCE. SO TO YOUR POINT, IF YOU'RE IN A MEETING OR YOU'RE HAVING A MEETING WITH A CONSTITUENT AND YOU WANT A REAL CONVERSATION THAT'S MUCH MORE ROBUST, THIS WILL GIVE YOU THOSE NUMBERS TO DO THAT, THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S WORTH GEEKING OUT ON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE THAT SINCE THE MOMENT THIS ITEM HAS BEEN HAS STARTED, PERVEZ HAS BEEN SMILING AS MUCH AS I'VE EVER SEEN HIM SMILE THE ENTIRE TIME. DID WE GET A PERVEZ JOKE DURING THAT ENTIRE BUDGET SEASON? WE DID NOT. YOU'RE LEAVING ME JUST WANTING MORE WHEN I'M ABOUT TO LEAVE AND I DIDN'T GET ONE FINAL PERVEZ JOKE. LOOKS GREAT. I HAVE ONE MORE MEETING BUT I'M GOING TO BE REMOTE. ALL RIGHT? NO, NO. GOSH, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT JOKE WOULD BE. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU. MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING TO LAUNCH THIS BY THE END OF OCTOBER. THIS IS THE THIRD PHASE OF THE OPEN GOV PORTAL THAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF. THIS IS CONNECTED DIRECTLY INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND TO THE TRANSPARENCY SITE THAT HAS PERFORMANCE METRICS. SO PUTTING ALL THREE OF THEM TOGETHER IS TREMENDOUS. HOLLY AND HER TEAM HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB. IF YOU'RE GEEKING OUT NOW, COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, THIS IS THE FOUNDATIONAL LAYER THAT WE'VE BUILT. THE TEAM ALREADY HAS IDEAS OF HOW TO BUILD EVEN MORE ON THIS. THERE'S MORE AS WE GO YEAR OVER YEAR TO ENHANCE. SO IT'S VERY IT'S A VERY EXCITING LAUNCH. AND THERE'S MORE TO COME. YEAH. IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A GREAT FINANCIAL TEAM. BUT NOW NOW THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE LEADERSHIP HAS COME WITH THE CAPABILITIES OF THE ONLINE SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW IT'S A TESTAMENT ALL THE WAY UP TO BRIAN, BUT ALSO TO YOU JESSE AND JUST AND AND THE WHOLE TEAM THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TOGETHER. IT IS CERTAINLY IT IS CERTAINLY IMPRESSIVE. AND THE COOL THING IS LIKE THE I THINK WHAT I HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL IS JUST A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN YOUR ABILITY TO DELIVER THESE PRODUCTS TO THE PUBLIC. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HISTORICALLY, HAD THERE BEEN A, YOU KNOW, A PROPOSAL FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IN FACT, HISTORICALLY THERE WERE PROPOSALS, BUT JUST WE DID NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING IT. SO THAT'S PRETTY COOL. AND I WILL ALSO ADD, SINCE I IS MIKE STILL HERE IN THE BACK SOMEWHERE? YEAH. I WILL ALSO ADD TO THAT BOTH BOTH MIKE'S THAT YESTERDAY WAS MY LAST CAMP MEETING. AND AT THE CAMP MEETING I'M SAYING GOODBYE TO ASHBY JOHNSON, THE CAMP DIRECTOR, AND HE'S GIVING ME FEEDBACK ESSENTIALLY THAT THAT OUR OUR CAPABILITIES FROM OUR, OUR ROADWAY DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, ENGINEERING, ALL OF THAT IS LIKE MADE LEAPS IN TERMS OF HOW ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION LIKE CAMPO VIEWS THE CITY OF KYLE.

IT HAS BEEN TRANSFORMATIVE. HE ASHBY GLOWED ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE CITY OF KYLE IS BEING PERCEIVED BY HIM AND HIS STAFF IN TERMS OF OUR CAPABILITIES, WHICH IS JUST THAT'S THE THAT'S THE KIND OF IMPRESSION YOU WANT TO MAKE TO START PULLING DOWN THOSE CAMPO DOLLARS LONG TERM.

SO I JUST COULDN'T BE HAPPIER TO BE LEAVING WITH THESE KIND OF PRODUCTS AND THAT KIND OF FEEDBACK COMING FROM PROFESSIONALS WHO I RESPECT, WHOSE OPINION OF OUR STAFF MATTER A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT. SO I'M JUST SUPER PROUD. SUPER PROUD. SO THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE JUST THE BASELINE, THE SEED OF IT ALL FOR OUR CITY, FOR PARKS, FOR OUR STREET CREW. AND WE CAN GO BACK, YOU KNOW, YEARS FROM NOW. SO WHEN WE HAVE OUR BUDGET MEETINGS STARTING UP IN MAY, IF WE HAVE A QUESTION, WE WANT TO COMPARE NUMBERS FROM 2021. WE COULD BE ABLE TO PULL UP ALL THE INFORMATION THERE. WHAT WE WERE WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED FROM THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, OUR PARKS, AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS WHERE OUR PARKS ARE AT, TO SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE AT. AND THEN WE CAN AGAIN SHOW IT TO OUR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT LOVE TO DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND TRY TO GET US ON THE GOTCHA MOMENTS, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE THAT SAYS, NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE. LOOK HERE.

THIS IS WHERE WE WERE FROM 19 IN 2021, 22, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. RIGHT. WHICH WAS WHY THE TRANSLATION WAS SO IMPORTANT TO US. WE WORKED AS A TEAM. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW REMARKABLE IT IS TO HAVE SUCH A GRANULAR LEVEL OF TRANSLATION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO US THAT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS CAN NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM IN THE WAY THEY FEEL MOST COMFORTABLE, AND IT REALLY IS, AS YOU SAID, SUCH A TOOL FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN RECEIVE THEIR INFORMATION IN ANY WAY THEY'RE COMFORTABLE. YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT'S BEING INCLUSIVE. YEP. WHAT. ALL RIGHT.

[43) Consider directing the City Manager to evaluate crosswalk installations at the intersections of Center & Meyer (North-South) and Center and Veterans (East-West).]

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ON THAT NOTE, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE LAST ITEM, AGENDA ITEM 43. CONSIDER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO EVALUATE CROSSWALK INSTALLS AT THE INTERSECTIONS

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OF CENTER AND MAYOR NORTH SOUTH AND CENTER AND VETERANS EAST WEST. MAYOR PRO TEM. YEP. THANK YOU. AND GUYS I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK. THEY WE'VE ALL HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WHO HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE LACK OF BUS SERVICE TO KYLE ELEMENTARY, AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT ARE THAT WERE STRIPED, BUT THE STRIPING HAS WORN OFF. BUT I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE THINGS AS TO HAVE THOSE TWO CROSSWALKS RESTRIPED. AND ADDITIONALLY TO. TRY TO COLLABORATE WITH OR TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WOULD BE GOOD INTERSECTIONS FOR SIGNALIZED CROSSWALKS FOR, YOU KNOW, ANYONE WHO WANTS TO IS WE, YOU KNOW, LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN CHANGES. I WANT TO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE. HAVE YOU SEEN THE CROSSWALK WE INSTALLED OVER THERE BY DAISY CHAPEL? WELL, NO. OKAY. WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE, GO BY THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THAT THEY WE THAT BRIAN. AND THE PARK. YEAH. STREET AND MIKE AND ALL THEM WERE ABLE TO HELP GET. SO WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE KIDS WALK FROM SCIENCE HALL DOWN CHAPEL TO DAISY APARTMENTS BECAUSE THEY HAD THAT DAISY LANE, AND IT WAS LIKE, IT'S STILL A RACETRACK OUT THERE, BUT THEY HAVE A NEW CROSSWALK THAT'S INSTALLED WITH THE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO CHECK IT OUT. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED.

MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING THERE AS WELL. DOES IT HAVE RED LIGHTS TO STOP THE TRAFFIC OR JUST THE FLASHING? IT GIVES A FLASHING AHEAD OF TIME TO WHERE? IF THE KIDS ARE PRESSING THE BUTTON ABOUT A LIKE A QUARTER OF A MILE UP, IT STARTS FLASHING THAT YOU'RE COMING UP ON A PEDESTRIAN WALK, AND THEN AS IT GETS NEAR, IT HAS IT ALL LIT UP. DOES IT GO RED? IT JUST DOES A FLASHING LIGHT. IT SLOWS IT DOWN. WHAT COLOR IS YELLOW? YELLOW. YEAH. IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY STOP THE TRAFFIC. NO, IT DOESN'T STOP TRAFFIC. BUT IT ADVISES THE KID THAT THERE IS PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE WALKING ACROSS. AND WHAT'S WHAT'S THE YELLOW LIGHTS ARE FLASHING. YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO YIELD TO THEM. SO IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT. YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S GREAT SUGGESTIONS THE BUS SERVICE. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IS A SIDEWALK FROM STAGECOACH CROSSING CLOSE TO OUR PROJECT THAT WE HAVE COMING UP WITH ROUNDABOUT WITH SOMETHING WE COULD WORK ON RIGHT NOW AS A CITY, BECAUSE I'VE GOT KIDS WALKING OUT OF STAGECOACH. THEY LOST THEIR BUS SERVICE AS WELL. SO STAGECOACH CROSSING ON STAGECOACH ROAD NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND WE NEED TO ADD SOME LIGHTS. ANY POLES WE HAVE THERE, WE NEED TO ADD LIGHTS. I'VE GOT KIDS WALKING THERE IN EARLY MORNING AND IT'S GETTING REALLY DANGEROUS WITH THE IT BEING DARK AT THAT TIME. SO IF WE COULD DO SOME GET WITH PC, GET A COUPLE LIGHTS PUT IN THERE AS WELL. APPRECIATE ON ANY OF THE POLES AROUND NEARBY THERE THE THE TELEPHONE POLES. AND WITH THAT ALSO SANDERS. WE HAVE A RAISED CROSSWALK SUPPOSED TO BE COMING FORWARD SO WE CAN GET THAT ONE DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THE PARENTS ON SANDERS HIGHLIGHTED IT AND MADE SURE THAT WE PUT AN EMPHASIS ON IT, SO I PROMISED THEM WE WOULD. THEY HOA BOARD HAS REQUESTED THAT BE SET ASIDE UNTIL I BELIEVE, DECEMBER. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THERE ISN'T QUITE AS MUCH WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT CONSTRUCTED CLOSE TO THE BREAK. AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY CLOSE. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TIMING. DECEMBER I THINK THEY'D BE HAPPY WITH DECEMBER, SO THAT'D BE GREAT. AS FAR AS THAT. I YEAH. SO YEAH, JUST DO AN EVALUATION ALL AROUND OUR SCHOOLS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. YOU WANT ME TO PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HEAR ALL THE TIME. GO LOOK AT 150. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 43. WITH THE ADDITION TO. NO. THAT'S GOOD. EVALUATE CROSSWALKS. THAT'S GOOD. WITH THE CROSSWALKS AND THE OTHER PROPOSED SUGGESTIONS WE HAD A FEW MINUTES AGO ON THE SIDEWALK ON STAGECOACH AND THE LIGHTS. WAS THAT A SECOND? CAN YOU DO THE I MADE THE MOTION. NO. DO YOU WANT ME TO AMEND THE MOTION? YEAH. TO ADD MY STUFF ON THERE.