Apr 06, 2021 City Council Regular Meeting

GOOD

[I. Call Meeting to Order]

EVENING, EVERYONE.

THE TIME IS 7:07 PM.

IT IS TUESDAY, APRIL THE SIXTH.

AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WOULD ALL.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLAYED.

IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL HERE, COACH HERE.

ALLISON FLORES KALE HERE, HERE, HERE.

SEVEN MEMBERS, PRESIDENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA SWITCH AROUND THE MINUTES AND THE CITIZEN COMMENTS, WE WILL HAVE ONE SCHEDULED TO SPEAK AND

[4. Recognition of the Lehman Lobo Powerlifting Program - Boys and Girls State Championships 2020-2021. ~ Michael Tobias, Council Member ]

GOING TO GO AHEAD TO THE RECOGNITION SECTION.

UH, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW FOLKS HERE.

UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

UH, THIS ITEM IS FOR THE MAJORITY OF YOU WHO HAVE COME.

WE'VE HAD A PRETTY SPECIAL THING HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF COLVILLE.

LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, A RECOGNITION OF THE LAYMAN LOBO POWERLIFTING PROGRAM, BOYS AND GIRLS STATE CHAMPIONS, 2020 2022.

UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE.

WELL DONE SETTING RECORDS.

I'M GOING TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO COUNSELOR TOBY'S OKAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYBODY COMING OUT TODAY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A HUGE CROWD, A GREAT LEVEL OF SUPPORT I SEE OUT THERE.

AND SO I WANTED TO FIRST OFF JUST, UH, RAISE UP TO HERE.

UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE POWER LIFTING TEAM, WE HAVE BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS TEAMS HERE.

UH, LAST MONTH, UH, WE HAD TWO LAYMAN LEVEL POWERLIFTERS FROM KYLE JUNIOR, BRAYDEN BERNASKI AND SENIOR JACOB VASQUEZ, BOTH WIN FIRST PLACE IN THE RESPECT WAY CLASSES AT THE TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL POWERLIFTING ASSOCIATION, FIVE, A SIX, A STATE MEET, AND ABALEEN THE, UH, LOCAL BOYS POWERLIFTING TEAM CAPTURED THE T 2021 STATE TITLE FINISHING TWO POINTS AHEAD OF ODESSA HIGH.

THIS COMES A WEEK AFTER THE LOCAL GIRLS POWERLIFTING TEAM WON THE FIVE TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL WOMEN'S POWERLIFTING STATE IN CORPORATES.

THESE LADY LEVELS ALL FROM KYLE ONE SIX, WELL, SIX OF THE 12 TOTAL WAY CLASSES AT THEIR EVENT.

YEAH, SOPHOMORE ASHLEY VILLENUEVA SENIOR ALYSSA MARTINEZ, JUNIOR CAITLIN DEERS, JUNIOR, CARLA AMIDO FRESHMEN, CRYSTAL MARTINEZ AND SENIOR MILLENNIA.

SORRY.

CAPTURED FIRST PLACE.

SECOND PLACE WAS SOPHOMORE.

JASMINE HIGHNESS, SENIOR BROOKE DAVENPORT.

THIRD PLACE WAS JUNIOR JASMINE RODRIGUEZ, SENIOR LEAH, LOTTA JUNIOR, OLIVIA VALDEZ.

FIFTH PLACE WAS SOPHOMORE ARIANNA PRAILL AND IN SIX PLACE WAS SENIOR HUMANA CASTIEL JUNIOR ABBY, ADD ME AND STAY QUALIFIER WAS SOPHOMORE KATE JULIUS.

THESE YOUNG LADIES JUST DOMINATED AS WE SHOW ON OUR SHIRTS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT DOMINATED.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER IN TEXAS STATE POWER LIFTING PROGRAM THAT IS SCHOOL WITH BOTH BOYS AND GIRLS TEAM WON STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TITLES.

IN THE SAME SEASON.

THESE TWO CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS WERE LED BY POWER LIFTING, COACH COREY REDMOND AND STAFF.

BY FAR, THIS HAS BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT SCHOOL YEAR, NOT ONLY FOR THESE LAYMAN ATHLETES AND OTHER SCHOOL DEALS OTHER IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE AND COUNTRY DO THIS COVID PANDEMIC SCHOOLS WERE CLOSED.

GYMS ARE CLOSED, WORKOUT FACILITIES WAS VERY LIMITED.

THE SEASON LOOKED LIKE IT WAS PRETTY MUCH IN JEOPARDY FACE WITH SO MANY CHALLENGES AND OBSTACLES.

THESE BOYS AND GIRLS TEAMS FROM LAYMAN OVERCAME THE MALL, ONE SCHOOLS WERE CLEARED.

THESE STUDENTS GOT UP EVERY DAY FOR THEIR 6:00 AM MORNING PRACTICES, INCLUDING WEEKENDS TO MAKE UP THE TIME WITH OUR WEIGHT CLASSES.

THEY PROVED THAT HARD WORK AND DEDICATION PAYS OFF IN THE END.

BUT WHEN PRESSED ME THE MOST ABOUT THESE ATHLETES WAS DURING THEIR HOME MEETS, WHICH I ATTENDED.

AND I'M SURE SOME OF Y'ALL SAW ME OUT THERE WAS WHILE AT THESE MEETS, THESE POWERLIFTERS SHOWED GREAT TEAMWORK AND CAMARADERIE TO EACH OTHER, BUT ALSO GREAT RESPECT AND GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP TO OTHER VISITING

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TEAMS AND COACHES.

AND WE'RE A TRUE AMBASSADORS TO THEIR SCHOOL DURING THOSE TIMES.

SO COACH ROBIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU IN YOUR COACHES.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SKILL AND TRAINING THESE YOUNG ATHLETES IN THE SPORT THAT THEY LITERALLY DEARLY LOVE.

I KNOW THAT THEY WILL TAKE WHAT THEY HAVE LEARNED.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS OFF FROM YOU AND APPLY IT TO THEIR EVERYDAY LIFE OF HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT AND TO THE ENTIRE LAYMAN POWERLIFTING BOYS AND GIRLS TEAM.

I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR WINS AND APPLAUD YOUR DEDICATION TO YOUR SPORT.

I SEND BEST WISHES FOR YOU FOR CONTINUED SUCCESS IN YOUR ACADEMIC FUTURE AND AS WELL AS GOALS FOR YOUR NEXT SEASON.

WE ALL WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW PROUD YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS HAVE BROUGHT POSITIVE RECOGNITION AND HONOR TO YOUR SCHOOL.

TWO YEAR ENTIRE SCHOOL, STUDENT, BODY TEACHERS, FAMILY, FRIENDS, BUT MOST IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY HERE OF KYLE.

SO THANK YOU, LAYMAN LOUVER POWERLIFTING TEAM FOR BRINGING HOME STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TITLES TO OUR GREAT CITY.

AND I, AND I WANT TO THANK, UM, FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

I WANT TO THANK, UH, SAMANTHA, ARMBRUSTER OUR CITY, UH, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND HER STAFF FOR HELPING WITH THIS.

UH, WE'VE GOT SOME PROUD LAYMAN LEVEL PARENTS, UH, GINA BRUNELLESCHI AND HER FAMILY, AND WILL ENGLEMAN THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP WITH YOUR PHOTOGRAPHS AND ALL THE PARENTS THAT SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN IN THIS SPORT THAT THEY LOVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, PRINCIPAL, KAREN ZUNIGA.

MA'AM HEY, SCHOOL BOARD TRUSTEE, WILLIE, FOR SUPPORTING THESE STUDENTS CITY MANAGER, SCOTT SELLERS, AND ALSO MAYOR TRAVIS MITCHELL AND THE REST OF COUNCIL WHO YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT ON THIS PRESENTATION FOR THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN.

YOUR METALS, WHICH I WANTED TO SHOWCASE AS WELL.

THANK YOU, TOBY.

I THINK WE HAVE A VIDEO PREPARE.

VERY NICE.

AND I THINK, UH, UH, SORRY, THERE'S A LAG THERE A LITTLE BIT.

UH, WE'VE ALSO GOT A, UH, A PLAN TO PUT, UH, SOME CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BILLBOARD.

THE CITY OF KYLE HAS A ACCESS TO THE DIGITAL BILLBOARD OUT HERE.

SO, UH, KEEP AN EYE OUT.

SAMANTHA, WHEN, WHEN IS THAT GOING LIVE? I THINK READY TO GO SOON.

RIGHT? NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

SO WE'LL, HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE A PICTURE AND SEE THAT CONGRATULATIONS ON YOU'VE YOU'VE MADE US ALL VERY PROUD.

IT WAS REALLY COOL WATCHING THAT STORY GO THROUGH.

IT'S NOT EVERY DAY THAT BOYS AND GIRLS, UH, IN ANY PROGRAM BECOME STATE CHAMPIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC.

SO JUST EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY PROUD.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME, UM, SO WE HAVE SOME, UM, UH, CERTIFICATES HERE FROM THE CITY AS WELL.

UH, BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK COACH, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SPIEL ABOUT THE SEASON AND ABOUT YOUR TEAM , UH, FIRST THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE THESE ATHLETES.

ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO PROMOTE IS HARD.

WORK WILL ALWAYS PAY OFF.

AND, UH, THIS YEAR IT DID THESE JUNIORS AND SENIORS HAVE LITERALLY TAKEN ONE SINGULAR WEEK OFF IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

UH, LAST YEAR WE GOT SHORTCHANGED AND THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH, UH, I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH AND CAN'T FIND ANY PROGRAM THAT'S EVER DONE WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR.

SO 33 REGIONAL QUALIFIERS, 17 STATE QUALIFIERS, UH, 14 STATE PLACERS, EIGHT STATE CHAMPIONS, TWO STATE BEST LIFTERS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, TWO STATE TITLES.

SO, UH, WE, WE MADE HISTORY THIS YEAR, SO WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT, UH, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

THAT REAL QUICK.

I HAVE SOME CERTIFICATES.

SO YOU COME ON UP, I CAN GET YOU ONE AND YOU CAN ALSO SHOW COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY

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WHAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU WANT TO JUST STATE YOUR NAME, YOU WANT, YOU WANT ME TO DO THEIR NAME, WANT TO, SO WE HAVE STATE CHAMPION JUNIOR BRADEN MASCHI WON BEST LIFTER, LIGHTWEIGHT, BEST LIFTER AS A JUNIOR, A SENIOR STATE CHAMPION, JACOB VASQUEZ, SECOND PLACE, SENIOR BROOK DAVENPORT, UH, SIX PLAYS ABBY, A DOMINATE JUNIOR FIRST PLACE, UH, FRESHMEN, CRYSTAL MARTINEZ, JUNIOR FIRST PLACE CARLA OLMEDO, UH, SIX PLACE SENIOR, A MINUTE CASTILLO, FRESH OR SOPHOMORE, UH, 97 STATE CHAMP, ALYSSA MARTINEZ, SECOND PLACE, UH, OLIVIA VALDEZ, JUNIOR SECOND PLACE JASMINE HEIMAEY SOPHOMORE, FIRST PLACE AND BEST LIFTER FOR THE LADIES, SENIOR ASHLEY AND FIFTH PLACE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

NEXT UP.

WE'RE GOING TO DO, UH, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT, UH, PROCLAMATIONS.

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT SOME OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS HELP ME, UH, READ THOSE OUT IF YOU WANT.

WE CAN TAKE A, MAYBE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND LET EVERYBODY MOVE OUT.

SO WE'LL COME BACK IN SEVEN 25.

WE'LL DO A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

WE'RE GOING TO GO HEAD NEXT TO THE PROCLAMATIONS.

I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

[5.

Mayoral Proclamations. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor

Child Abuse Prevention and Awareness Month

Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month

National Public Safety Telecommunicators Week (April 11th – April 17th)

National Animal Control Officer Appreciation Week (April 11th – April 17th)

]

WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR PROCLAMATIONS.

SO, UH, UNLESS THERE WERE OBJECTIONS, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL JUST READ THROUGH THE PROCLAMATIONS, UH, UH, WITHOUT COMMENTARY.

AND THEN AT THE END, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF ANYONE WISHES TO PROVIDE COMMENTARY ON ANY OTHER PROCLAMATIONS, UH, TO, UH, TO DO SO.

SO WE ARE GOING TO START WITH, UH, MINE.

I'LL DO MINE FIRST.

TELECOMMUNICATOR THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO START WITH.

SO WE DO, WE HAVE OUR TELECOMMUNICATORS HERE.

HELLO.

UH, IT'S TELECOMMUNICATOR WEEK FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT JOB IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

UH, WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE IS A MEMBER OF THE CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, A REGIONAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS SERVING BACKDROP, BLANCO, BURNET CALDWELL, FAYETTE HAYES, LEE LAND'O, TRAVIS AND WILLIAMSON COUNTIES.

AND WHEREAS CAP COGS, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION, AND THE CITY OF POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING A HIGH QUALITY EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION SYSTEM TO THE CITIZENS OF THE REGION AND THE CITY OF KYLE.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE JOINS CAP COG IN RECOGNIZING THE PROFESSIONAL AND UNENDING SERVICES OF THE TELECOMMUNICATORS WHO ANSWER NINE 11 CALLS ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND WHEREAS NOW THE NINE ONE, ONE TELECOMMUNICATORS ARE THE LINK BETWEEN PEOPLE CALLING FOR HELP IN THE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE AGENCIES WHO ARRIVE ON THE SCENE.

AND

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WHEREAS THE NINE 11 COMMUNICATE TELECOMMUNICATORS ARE THE TRUE BACKBONE OF THE NINE 11 SYSTEM.

AND WHEREAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS HISTORICALLY ACKNOWLEDGED.

THE SECOND WEEK OF APRIL IS NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATOR WEEK.

NOW, THEREFORE ON BEHALF OF THE MORE THAN 600 TELECOMMUNICATIONS, UH, TELECOMMUNICATORS IN THE CAP COG REGION, INCLUDING 15 FULL AND TWO PART-TIME TELECOMMUNICATORS WITH THE CITY OF KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY COUNCIL DOES JOIN, UH, TOGETHER AND HEREBY DECLARES THE WEEK OF APRIL 11TH THROUGH THE 17TH 2021 TO BE PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATE TELECOMMUNICATOR WEEK IN THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS.

AND WE CALL ON ALL THE CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT WORK BEING DONE BY THESE MEN AND WOMEN, WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY RAISES THE LEVEL OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIANS, AS WELL AS PROTECTING THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELLBEING OF OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, UH, AND THE PROPERTY OF EVERYONE.

SO THANK YOU TO OUR TELECOMMUNICATORS NEXT UP ANIMAL CONTROL COUNCILOR RIZZO COUNCILOR FLOOR SCALE, SORRY, WE'RE AS THE NATIONAL ANIMAL CONTROL ASSOCIATION HAS DESIGNED THE SECOND WEEK OF APRIL, EACH YEAR'S ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER APPRECIATION WEEK, AND WHEREAS THE VARIOUS FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY TAKE THIS TIME TO RECOGNIZE, THANK, AND COMMEND ALL ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS AND ANIMAL CONTROL STAFF STAFF FOR THE DEDICATION DEDICATED SERVICES.

THEY PROVIDE TO THE CITIZENS, VARIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS IT SINCERE, THANKS AND APPRECIATION FOR THE OUTSTANDING SERVICE, THE ANIMAL, THE KYLE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS PROVIDE ON A DAILY BASIS TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY AND TO THE VARIOUS PUBLIC SAFETY PUBLIC SURFACE SERVICE AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE RECOGNIZES AND COMMENDS BRIANNA BREACHER AND HAZEL SOLACE, THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS FOR THE MANY DEDICATED AND LONG HOURS IN SERVING THIS COMMUNITY AND FULFILLING THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS COMMITMENT TO PROVIDING THE HIGHEST AND MOST EFFICIENT LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE.

AND WE'RE AS THE CITY OF KYLE, WHICH IS TO COMMEND OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, BRIANNA BREACHER, AND HAZEL SOLACE FOR THEIR SERVICE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS IN KEEPING WITH THE LONG AND DISTINGUISHED TRADITION OF THE ANIMAL CONTROL PROFESSION.

NOW, THEREFORE I HAVE ON KALE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM, APRIL 11TH THROUGH THE 17TH 2021 AS NATIONAL ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER APPRECIATION WEEK IN THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME IN EXPRESSING THEIR SINCERE APPRECIATION FOR THE SERVICE AND DEDICATION OF OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS.

THANK YOU, COUNSELOR FLORES, KALE.

UH, THE NEXT TWO ARE FROM THE HAYS CALDWELL, UH, WOMEN'S SHELTER RELATED TO, UH, CHILD ABUSE, UH, AND SEXUAL ASSAULT.

AND SO, UM, I THINK CHILD ABUSE IS COUNCIL RIZZO, GO AHEAD.

WHEREAS MORE THAN 42,717 CASES OF CHILD ABUSE AND NEGLECT WERE CONFIRMED IN TEXAS IN 2020 RESULTING IN 16,522 CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE IN TEXAS FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND THE DEATH OF 215 CHILDREN IN TEXAS IN 2020.

AND WHEREAS 404 CHILDREN WERE CONFIRMED VICTIMS OF ABUSE IN HAYES COUNTY AND WERE AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION IN A COMMUNITY RESPONSIBILITY AND FINDING SOLUTIONS DEPENDS ON THE INVOLVEMENT AMONG THE PEOPLE.

AND 2020 WAS AN ESPECIALLY TRYING TIME FOR CHILDREN WHO WERE UNSAFE IN THEIR HOMES THROUGH, THROUGH THE PERSEVERANCE OF OUR MANY COMMUNITIES, ORGANIZATIONS WORKING DAILY TO END CHILD ABUSE.

WE CONTINUALLY SERVE CHILDREN THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC AND WAREHOUSE LOCALLY REPRESENTATIVES FROM ACE COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD HAYES COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAYES, CALDWELL WOMEN'S CENTER AND ROXANNE HOUSE GREATER SAN MARCUS YOUTH COUNCIL, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATES, CASA SAN MARCUS, BUDA AND KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, HAYES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND CHRISTUS SANTA ROSA, SAN MARCOS HAVE JOINED FORCES TO PROVIDE PREVENTIVE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO CHILDREN, CHILDREN CAUSE THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

AND WE'RE AS EVERY CHILD IN KYLE DESERVES TO BE SAFE, NURTURED, AND SUPPORTED AND CARING RELATIONSHIPS.

NOW, THEREFORE THE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 20, 19 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION AND AWARENESS MONTH.

AND DO HEREBY CALL UPON THE CITIZENS OF COL TO WORK TOGETHER, TO RAISE AWARENESS AND PROVINCIAL ABUSE IN THE COMMUNITY AND BEYOND THANK YOU, COUNSELOR RIZZO.

UH, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS, UH, FROM

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BRADSHAW.

AND, AND OTHERS, UH, ALWAYS, UH, HELPFUL WITH THAT.

WHEREAS 6.3 MILLION TEXANS HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME FORM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THEIR LIFETIME.

AND WHEREAS TWO IN FIVE WOMEN AND ONE IN FIVE MEN IN TEXAS HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IN THEIR LIFETIME AFFECTING ALL RACES, AGES, GENDER AND ECONOMIC SITUATIONS.

AND WHEREAS THE HAYS CALDWELL WOMEN'S CENTER PROVIDED DIRECT SERVICES TO 693 ADULT VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND HAYES AND CALDWELL COUNTIES LAST YEAR.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE IS INTOLERANT OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN ANY FORM AND RECOGNIZE THIS, THAT EDUCATION AND AWARENESS MAY PREVENT SEXUAL ASSAULT.

AND WHEREAS EFFORTS TO REDUCE SEXUAL ASSAULT CAN ONLY BE SUCCESSFUL THROUGH CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT.

AND THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF KYLE DEPENDS UPON OUR ACTIONS TO END SEXUAL ASSAULT.

NOW, THEREFORE I, ASHLEY BRADSHAW BY THE VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS COUNSEL, WOMAN OF KYLE TEXAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL, 2021 AS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, RACHEL, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON ANY OF THESE PROCLAMATIONS, JUST WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR, UH, BRINGING THIS PROCLAMATION FORWARD AND, UH, SUPPORTING IT.

UH, CHILD ABUSE IS SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, AS CITIZENS CAN ALWAYS, UH, INTER INTERVENE IN SOME WAY.

IF WE SEE SOMETHING ON THE COMMUNITY, ALWAYS REMEMBER CHILD ABUSE, ISN'T JUST BEING HIT.

IT COULD BE VERBAL ABUSE.

IT COULD BE, UH, UH, BEING IN A HOME.

THAT'S NOT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT, AS A COMMUNITY, WE CAN DO SO MUCH MORE TO, UH, TAKE, MAKE SURE THAT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN IS PRIORITY.

NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE OUR FUTURE.

THEY'RE OUR FUTURE LEADERS.

THEY'RE, WHAT'S GOING TO BE MOST IMPORTANT TO US AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS PROCLAMATION.

THANK YOU CUSTOMER ALISON, THAT YOU WILL START AT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I, I CERTAINLY, UH, SECOND THAT APPRECIATION BY THE MAYOR, UH, FOR BRINGING THESE PROCLAMATIONS FORWARD.

UH, YOU'VE BEEN REALLY CONSISTENT WITH, WITH THESE OVER THE YEARS, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALWAYS BRING THESE, UH, THESE TWO AWARENESS FOR OUR CITY AND I WILL TAKE THE COUNCIL FOR ALWAYS BEING IN SUPPORTIVE OF IT AS WELL.

UM, I WANT TO THINK, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, TELECOMMUNICATORS, UH, I THINK, UH, IN THE PROCLAMATION IT WAS SAID THAT, UH, BEING THE BACKBONE OF THE, THE AGENCY.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE IT IS TRUE.

A LOT OF THAT IS DEALT WITH, AND SOMETIMES IT'S FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT YOU ALL DEAL WITH MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY AND, AND EVERYTHING.

SO, UM, MAJOR, MAJOR, KUDOS AND HATS OFF TO YOU ALL, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, BRIANNA, UM, AND OPPOSITE THESE, UM, UM, I THINK TH UH, I, I'VE KNOWN, UH, OFFICER BECKER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE SYSTEM POLICE ACADEMY ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO AND THE NUMBER OF THE OTHER, THERE ARE OTHER DIFFERENT OFFICERS, AND I APPRECIATE THE PASSION AND CONSISTENCY, UH, TO SERVE OUR CITY THAT, UH, THOSE INDIVIDUALS BRING, UH, THEY, UH, IT'S A FULL GAUNTLET OF WHAT THEY DEAL WITH THAT IT'S JUST THE TWO OF THEM FOR THE LONGEST TIME.

IT WAS, IT WOULD JUST OFFICER BRECKER.

UM, AND SO I APPRECIATE THEIR COMMITMENT DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALWAYS SUPPORTIVE AND HELPFUL OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S A NEED AND DEALING WITH VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS, AS WELL AS ROLLING WITH THE PUNCHES ON, ON THE TRANSITION OF, UH, THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND, AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO, UH, I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM, UM, FOR THEIR CONTINUED FLEXIBILITY AND COMMITMENT AND DETERMINATION TO THE JOB.

UM, THE OTHER PROCLAMATIONS, VERY SINCERE AND VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TO BRING THAT AWARENESS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS OVER BROUGHT IT UP, UH, VERY MUCH SO THAT IT CAN TAKE MANY DIFFERENT FORMS. AND SO IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO BE AWARE OF IT FOR EITHER PEOPLE THAT ARE DEALING WITH IT, UH, PEOPLE THAT KNOW FOLKS THAT ARE DEALING WITH IT, UH, AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, UM, TO, UM, SEEK, SEEK HELP FOR THAT AND THAT THERE IS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I WANT TO, UH, THINK OF ERICA GUYARDO.

UH, SHE TYPICALLY EMAILS US, UH, EVERY YEAR ABOUT THE, UH, PINWHEELS IN APRIL FOR, UH, UM, CHILD ABUSE, UH, AWARENESS MONTH WITH THE HAYES COUNTY CHILD PROTECTIVE BOARD.

AND SO, UH, I APPRECIATE HER COMMITMENT TO, AND ALWAYS WILLING AND SEEKING TO REACH OUT TO US TO HELP WITH THAT.

AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF.

I KNOW JERRY AND MARIANNA

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AND AS THEY WERE THIS YEAR AGAIN AS WELL.

SO, UH, UM, IF ANYBODY HASN'T SEEN THE PINWHEELS THAT ARE IN OUR FOUNTAIN OVER AT, UH, MARY HARTSON CAR PARK HERE IN OUR DOWNTOWN AS WELL, UM, YOU CAN GO CHECK THAT OUT, BUT, UH, THANK YOU EVERYONE.

UH, APPRECIATE THE PROCLAMATIONS.

THANK YOU, COUNSELOR LSA.

ANY OTHER COMMENTARY, ANYONE WHO CAME HERE TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATIONS WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SAY ANYTHING? OH, OKAY.

IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, UH, IS ANYBODY WANTING TO COME FORWARD FOR A, A PHOTOGRAPH CHIEF SAYS, YES.

UH, WITH APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, MARCH 16TH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FOR MARCH 16, 2021, AND THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR MARCH, 1641 SECOND.

SO W WE'LL DO, UM, WHICH ONE DO YOU, WHICH ONE YOU WANT TO DO FIRST CHIEF? IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S DO THAT.

I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY STAY UP HERE.

STAY UP HERE AGAIN, BUT WE'LL HAND THESE DOWN SEXUAL ASSAULT.

IF WE CAN GET COUNSEL BETWEEN COACH AND IF WE CAN GET IN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER THIS SIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE, HERE WE GO.

UM, NOW LET'S GO BACK TO THE START,

[II. Approval of Minutes]

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILOR RIZZO, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM COACH.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

TOBY IS ONE OF Y'ALL COUNCILOR.

TOBY IS SECONDARY.

I GOT THE SECOND.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

UP CITIZEN COMMENTS PERIOD.

[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM OF CITIBUSINESS TO PLEASE DO.

SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN, UH, COMMENT, FORM AND SUBMIT IT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.

I HAVE TO FILLED OUT IN PERSON, AND I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE ONE REGISTERED ONLINE.

SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH THE FOLKS IN PERSON FIRST, UH, NEXT, UH, FIRST UP MR. MICHAEL KLOSS, GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND CITIZENS OF KYLE.

UM, WELL DONE ON THE, UH, PREVIOUS, UH, PRO PROCLAMATIONS.

WHAT AN APPROPRIATE TIME.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU WORKING HARD AND I HOPE I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THOSE WHO ASKED ME

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TO SUPPORT THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL OF AN ORDINANCE BY THE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE SEXUAL ASSAULT PROGRAM ORDINANCE, WHAT A BEAUTIFUL MONTH IT WOULD BE TO GET IT PROPOSED, PASSED AND ENFORCED.

NOT AS MUCH.

THANKS IS GIVEN TO EACH OF YOU.

I KNOW YOU'RE SITTING IN SOME VERY LONELY SEATS EXPERIENCE TELLS ME I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO.

AND MOST OF ALL, FOR LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS OF KYLE, ESPECIALLY ME.

SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU, PULLED IT POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND, AND, UH, THAT POOR LADY GETS BITTEN MORE THAN ANYBODY, BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A SUPPORT.

JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT SUPPORT AND, UH, WHAT A BEAUTIFUL MONTH IT WOULD BE TO GET THIS COMPLETED.

THANK YOU, GOD.

BLESS OFF.

THANK YOU, MR. CLAUS.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, MR. PETER PARKER, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, CITIZENS.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO COME AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON, UH, ON THE KYLE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.

UH, WE'RE NOT GETTING AS FAST TO START AS I WANTED TO, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE, UH, THANKS TO THE SUPPORT FROM KPD AND KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS FROM THE HAYES COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICE.

UH, BASICALLY WE'RE STARTING TRAINING WITH DRIVER TRAINING ON THE 17TH, AND THEN WE'LL BE DOING A BASIC SHELTER OPERATIONS TRAINING ON MAY THE EIGHTH.

AND THEN IN JUNE, BY THE END OF JUNE, WE SHOULD HAVE FIVE, UH, HAM RADIO OPERATORS QUALIFIED TO THE GENERAL LEVEL.

WE WILL ALSO BE DOING EMERGENCY HELICOPTER LANDING ZONE PREPARATION AND MANAGEMENT.

AND IN SEPTEMBER WE WILL BE DOING, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE FULL NAME, BUT HOW TO HELP, UH, VICTIMS OF, OF, UH, TRAGEDIES AND EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.

UH, WE HAVE SOMEBODY BUILDING UP A COURSE ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

UH, ON THE CURT SIDE, WE HAVE, UH, 77 MEMBERS AS OF FIVE 30.

UH, WE HAVE AFFILIATED WITH CERT HAYES COUNTY CERT, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS GOING THROUGH THEIR TRAINING THAT FINISHED TODAY.

MORE MEMBERS WILL BE GOING THROUGH AT THE END OF APRIL AND IN MAY.

UH, SO WE HAVE THAT ON THE GO.

UH, AS FAR AS KURT GOES, WE'RE AVAILABLE ANYTIME FOR GENERAL VOLUNTEER.

UH, IF YOU NEED SOMETHING, LET US KNOW.

I'LL PUT IT ON, I'LL PUT IT ON THE PAGE AND AWAY WE GO, UH, ONTO THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ME ON THE, UH, KYLE CITIZENS VETERANS PARADE.

I KNOW IT'S A LONG WAY OFF, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS.

UM, SO FAR I HAVE 14 COMPANIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED ON OUR SIDE OF IT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OTHER ENTITIES THAT I WON'T MENTION RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT ARE JUST WAITING TO HEAR IF YOU ALL ARE DOING IT OR NOT.

AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU, MR. PORCHER.

TO TELL ME HE NEVER KNEW SHE WAS MARRIED OR KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT A CHILD.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE, UM, HERE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE, UH, PERSON REGISTERED ONLINE.

IS THAT PERSON AVAILABLE AND READY TO SPEAK? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

HELLO.

MAY I PROCEED? GO AHEAD.

OH, I'M DR.

OLSON, THE FIRST AND ONLY CONVERSATION I EVER HAD WITH JEFF BARNETT AFTER DISCOVERING THAT IT MIGHT'VE BEEN POSSIBLE THAT MY SON WAS ACTUALLY HIS WAS ON THE PHONE WHILE HE WAS IN HIS OPPOSITE.

KYLE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF MY SON WAS MINE AT THAT TIME.

AND I WAS SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH.

I HAD MADE NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT HIM IN HIS OFFICE IN KYLE AND GOTTEN THE RUNAROUND.

I FINALLY TOLD THE PERSON IN THE INTERIM, IT WASN'T GOING AWAY UNTIL I SPOKE WITH BARNETT BARNETT FINALLY TOOK MY CALL.

AND THE FIRST THING HE SAID TO ME WAS GLENN.

I'M A GOOD GUY THAT IS BURNED INTO MY MEMORY, GLEN.

I AM A GOOD GUY.

THEN HE PROCEEDED

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THE EXACT SAME THING.

HE TOLD URBAN THE CITY OF CARLTON DISAGGREGATION.

BUT WHEN I ACQUIRED EMAILS FROM HIS ACCOUNT AT A LATER DATE, HE SHARED WITH MY WIFE.

I DISCOVERED HE HAD LIED TO ME AND HE KNEW ALL ALONG THAT SHE WAS MARRIED.

AND THE PHOTO OF IT UNFOLDING, MR. HARLESTON, THIS IS THE MAYOR MITCHELL.

I'M GOING TO CALL A POINT OF ORDER.

THE, YOUR COMMENTARY DOES NOT PERTAIN, UH, TO GENERAL RELEVANCE, AND IT CAN BE PERCEIVED AS A PERSONAL ATTACKS, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE PROHIBIT YOUR CITIZEN COMMENTS.

YOU HAVE ANOTHER SUBJECT THAT YOU WISH TO DISCUSS.

YOU DON'T WANNA HEAR THE TRUTH.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SUBJECT OTHER THAN THIS? YOU WISH TO DISCUSS WITH US, SIR? OH, I DO.

LET'S SEE.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

THERE'S NO PERSONAL ATTACK HERE.

THESE ARE JUST THE FACTS.

IF YOU LET ME SPEAK, THESE ARE THE FACTS.

THESE ARE NOT, THESE ARE INDISPUTABLE FACTS.

I JUST HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHUT ME UP.

THAT'S WHAT THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR.

I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK.

I'M A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY.

I'M GOING TO FINISH.

THAT WAS, I DISCOVERED HE HAD LIED TO ME.

I KNEW ALL ALONG THAT SHE WAS MARRIED AND THE PHOTO OF HIM HOLDING THE CHILD ONE WEEK AFTER HE WAS BORN, WAS IN ONE OF THEIR EMAILS, ALONG WITH THE DNA TEST SHOWING HE WAS THE FATHER, JEFF BARNETT.

ISN'T A GOOD GUY.

LIKE HE WANTED ME TO BELIEVE THAT DAY AND ALL YOU TO BELIEVE NOW HE IS A LIAR WHO FALSIFIED THIS APPLICATION TO GET THIS JOB, UH, LIED ABOUT HIS FIRING AND PRINCETON AND LIED THAT THE HIRING COMMITTEE AND KYLE.

THANK YOU, MR. HUDDLESTON.

NEXT UP, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, APPOINTMENTS, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE REAPPOINTMENTS OF TIM SANFORD, JAMES HERB, AND DEREK TURLEY TO THE ALLIANCE, REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THREE-YEAR TERMS. UH, THIS IS MY ITEM, W WE'VE BECAUSE OF THEIR RE SHUFFLING, UH, UNDER THE NEW PROCEDURES WITH ARWA THESE ITEMS KEEP COMING BACK, BUT THESE ARE ALL OUR EXISTING MEMBERS, UH, IS NOT REALLY MUCH TO ADD OTHER THAN THAT, THEY NEED TO BE REAPPOINTED.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS.

IT IS NOW CLOSED

[6. Consider approval of a resolution confirming the reappointments of Tim Samford, James Earp, and Derrick Turley to the Alliance Regional Water Authority Board of Directors for three-year terms. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor
]

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND ABOUT MAYOR PRO TEM COACH.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

[7.

Reappointment to the Economic Development and Tourism Board. ~ Diana Torres, Director of Economic Development

Brian Ziegler, First United Bank, Financier Seat

Tessa Schmidtzinsky, PEC, Utility Seat

Don Tracy, ACC, Higher Education/Workforce Development Seat

]

NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, REAPPOINTMENT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD.

UH, THIS ITEMS MS. DIANA TORRES, A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION, ALL THREE APPLICANTS, OUR EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT.

UH, DIANA, GO AHEAD.

UM, MAYOR, WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING SO THAT WE CAN GET, UH, THE APPLICATIONS FOR THESE THREE, UM, MEMBERS, UM, TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW.

UM, WOULD, WOULD YOU WANT ME TO GO FORWARD OR DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT REQUEST? WELL, THEY'RE READY FOR REAPPOINTMENT.

IS THERE, IS THERE A REASON TO POSTPONE THEM? IT WAS A REQUEST FROM, UM, A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WAS HAD A CONCERN.

THAT WAS I.

IN THE CITY OF KYLE, THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY ON A BOARD OR COMMITTEE THAT MAYBE ARE NOT, SHOULDN'T BE ON THERE.

THE REASON FOR MY REQUEST IS BECAUSE ME AND ASHLEY ARE NEW TO THE DIOCESE AND WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER TALK OR TO, UM, MAYBE SEE A RESUME OR AN APPLICATION IN ORDER TO MAKE A VOTE ON THIS.

SO I'M NOT COMFORTABLE VOTING ON THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS.

I'M NOT SURE IF MR. OR MEMBER TOBY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE SAME INFORMATION AS WELL.

SO ALL I WAS ASKING FOR WAS TIME TO REVIEW, AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS WAS AN EASTER WEEKEND.

SO BY THE TIME I GOT, UM, THE AGENDA, I WAS RUSHING AS IT WAS TO LIKE READ AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

SO YEAH, MAY PUT SOME COACH.

THESE ARE ALREADY SITTING BOARD MEMBERS, AND IT'S NOT TYPICAL FOR US TO GO THROUGH OUR OWN INTERVIEW PROCESS WITH THEM.

AND SINCE THEY WERE WAITING TO BE APPOINTED, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT BRIAN ZIGLAR, UH, TESSA, UH, SHOULD IT ZINSKY AND DAWN TRACY TO, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURIST BOARD.

SECOND IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM SECOND BY CASPER RIZZO.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I HAVE JUST ONE AND I KIND OF AGREE IF IT IS A REAPPOINTMENT, WE ALREADY HAVE THEM ALREADY ON THE BOARD.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF REAPPOINTING THEM BACK IN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SOME NEW FACES ON THERE.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE.

LIKE, I HAVE NO INFORMATION ON THEM.

I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME TO MAKE A VOTE ON, UH, PEOPLE THAT I DON'T KNOW.

I CAN'T JUST SAY, WELL, THEY'RE ALREADY ON THERE, SO THEY GOTTA BE GOOD.

UM, CAUSE I THINK SEVERAL TIMES

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WHAT ARE THE TERM LIMITS ON THIS DATA TWO YEARS? THE WAY THAT THE, THE TERM, RIGHT? I THINK THIS QUESTION WAS TERM LIMITS.

THERE'S I I'M, I WOULD HAVE TO, UH, DEFER THAT QUESTION TO PAIGE OR MAYBE SCOTT MAYBE KNOWS OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL A TERM LIMIT.

UM, THE WAY THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS STRUCTURED IS THAT IT IS NOT A DECISION-MAKING BODY.

UH, IT'S SOLELY, UM, FOR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL.

UM, THEY REVIEWED THE FIRST YEAR ON US APPLICATIONS AND THEN MAKE AN APP A, UM, IN A POSITION TO, TO TAKE TO COUNCIL ON THAT, UM, THAT WE HAVE MEET EVERY MONTH.

AND THE WAY THAT THIS BOARD IS STRUCTURED IS THAT THERE IS, UM, A SEAT THAT WOULD EQUAL THE EQUIVALENT AS IF WE HAD AN EDC OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

UM, SO THOSE POSITIONS FOR THESE THREE IN PARTICULAR, ARE I'M A FINANCIER, UM, A UTILITY AND HIGHER EDUCATION.

YEAH, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS ALSO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26, UM, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING BOARD AND COMMISSION STAFFING POLICY.

I THINK IT'S A KIND OF HORSE BUGGING FOR THE HORSE TO DO ALL THESE REAPPOINTMENTS AND CONSIDER NOMINATION.

WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT SPECIFICALLY SPEAKS TO THESE, TO THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, MARY, WE HAVE A MOTION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION YOU HAVE DISCUSSION.

SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL SAY THIS CAUSE UH, CUSTOMER FLOURISH, GAIL DID BRING UP MY ITEM, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA.

UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS I'LL SAY ABOUT THIS ONE.

I AM FAMILIAR WITH THESE, UH, THREE PERSONS AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THEIR REAPPOINTMENT.

HOWEVER, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALE, AND PERHAPS IF THAT'S THE SAME CONCERN OF COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, UM, CERTAINLY I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD PRACTICE TO PROVIDE THAT IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL, JUST FOR FUTURE PURPOSES, UH, TO GIVE, UH, COUNSEL THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

UM, FOR ME, I WILL PARSE A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THAT THE REAPPOINTMENT WITH MY LONGEVITY ON THE COUNCIL, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT.

SO I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS APPOINTMENT.

IT'S THE NEW NOMINATIONS, UH, UH, TO A COMMISSIONER BOARD THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS PRIOR TO MAKING ANY NEW APPOINTMENTS OR NOMINATIONS, UH, UNTIL WE'VE HAD CLARITY ON THE POLICY, UH, OF NOMINATIONS.

SO, UH, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, I WILL BE MAKING THAT SAME REQUEST.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDER NOMINATIONS AND TAKE ACTION FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO FILL TWO VACANCIES WITH THE UNEXPIRED TERMS. UH, THIS ITEM IS ORIGINALLY LISTED FOR MR. COONS, BUT REALLY JUST, UH, WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE UNEXPECTEDLY, UH, A COUPLE, UH, PLAYING A ZONING SEATS CAME VACANT RIGHT AT THE SAME TIME AS WE WERE MAKING, UH, OUR MOST RECENT, UH, APPOINTMENT.

SO THE, THE, THE WAY THE REAPPOINTMENT PROCESS WORKS IS, DOES NOT REQUIRE THE NOMINEES TO APPLY.

SO ASKING FOR, AND I'M JUST GOING TO HANG ON.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT WHEN YOU ASK FOR APPLICATIONS TO COME FORWARD.

REAPPOINTMENT PROCESS AS WRITTEN IS VERY INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED TO CIRCUMVENT THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT OPENING IT UP, TAKING APPLICATIONS, MAKING A DECISION AMONG THE COMMUNITY.

REAPPOINTMENT IS SPECIFICALLY THE OPPOSITE OF KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS MAYBE THEY'RE NOT THE BEST, UH, IN WHICH CASE THE REAPPOINTMENT PROCESS MAY NOT SUIT YOU.

WELL, YOU MIGHT LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE NOT REAPPOINTED OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT WE TRY TO COME UP WITH A POLICY AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST, UH, BACK IN 2017 TO KIND OF ADDRESS, WELL, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WHEN WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN IT UP, WHICH GIVES FALSE HOPES WHEN WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE MEMBER.

AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH THE POLICY FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, OR A CHAIR OF A BOARD, ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, BRINGING FORWARD THAT REAPPOINTMENT SO THAT IT CAN CIRCUMVENT IT BYPASS THOSE POLICIES.

AND ESSENTIALLY YOU GO FROM ONE TERM TO THE NEXT, WITHOUT TOO MUCH TROUBLE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, AND IN PARTICULAR ON THESE THREE, UH, UH, THESE THREE POSITIONS, I THINK THAT'S, UH, PRETTY MUCH RIGHT IN LINE WITH KIND OF THE MOTIVATION FOR WHY WE CREATED THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

SO, UM, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO, UH, TO MOVE THEM ALONG.

UH, BUT YOUR, YOUR COMMENTARY IS CERTAINLY NOTED.

UM, I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW DO I MAKE A VOTE ON PEOPLE THAT I'VE NEVER EVEN SPOKEN TO? WELL, I CAN'T, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S CERTAINLY OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU TO GO TO THE BOARD MEETINGS.

UM, WE TALKED TO DIANA ABOUT MAYBE GETTING IN, GETTING TO KNOW IF THAT'S A PARTICULAR BOARD, MAJORITY OF THE BOARD APPOINTEES THAT I'VE VOTED ON THROUGH THE YEARS HAVE NOT BEEN PEOPLE WITH WHICH I'VE HAD PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS, BUT I TAKE IT ON THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE VARIOUS, UH, FOLKS WHO ARE IN A POSITION TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

AND SO MY VOTE, UH, IS AS IT RELATES TO THEIR,

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UH, NOMINATION.

SO I'M CONFIRMING AS OPPOSED TO DOING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS MYSELF.

SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THESE THREE ITEMS, THESE THREE FOLKS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, AYE.

ALL OPPOSED, NO MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE NEXT UP

[8.

Consider nomination and take action for appointment to the Planning and Zoning Commission to fill two vacancies with unexpired terms. ~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development

Patricia Snidow

Matthew Chase

]

AND BECAUSE WE HAD HAD SUCH, UH, SO MANY FOLKS APPLY, UH, WE HAD FRESHLY IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHER FOLKS IN THE LIST WHO DIDN'T MAKE, UH, THE ORIGINAL APPOINTMENT FROM A FEW WEEKS AGO OR A MONTH, MAYBE A MONTH AGO OR SO.

UH, AND SO THE QUESTION WAS BECAUSE WE HAD TWO VACANCIES AND THERE'S KIND OF A CORE ISSUE AS WELL.

AND WE HAD A PROCESS THAT WE'D FOLLOWED, UH, AND IT HAD PRODUCED TWO OTHER VIABLE CANDIDATES, WHETHER WE SHOULD BRING THESE FORWARD OR NOT.

UH, MY INTENTION WAS TO TRY TO KEEP THAT BOARD FILLED.

UH, AND SO THESE CANDIDATES IN PARTICULAR WERE THE ESSENTIALLY NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE ON THE LIST, UH, OF THOSE WHO WE INTERVIEWED AND VETTED HERE NOT TOO LONG AGO.

SO, UH, WITH THAT AND WITH THE DESIRE TO KEEP THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BOARD FULL, UH, I WANTED TO BRING THEM FORWARD FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, MR. MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM COACH.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT PATRICIA SNIT OUT AND MICHAEL CHASE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

I CAN TAKE IT ALL RIGHT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR RIZZO THAT WE APPOINT PATRICIA SNIFFED OUT SNIDE OWL, AND MATTHEW CHASED THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CUSTOMER ELLISON? YES.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE COUNCIL TO NOT MAKE THESE APPOINTMENTS AS OF YET, UNTIL AT LEAST WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE POLICY FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PRIMARILY THIS, THIS ONE, BECAUSE AS I BROUGHT UP IN OUR, UM, UH, FEBRUARY 23RD COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MEETING, UH, THERE WERE 13 APPLICANTS THAT APPLIED, BUT ONLY FIVE OF THEM WERE INTERVIEWED.

AND I WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THE QUALIFICATIONS PROCESS, UH, FOR INTERVIEWING APPLICANTS THAT ARE NEW TO BE NOMINATED TO A BOARD.

AND SO THAT, THAT REQUEST WAS MADE PRIOR TO THESE RESIGNATIONS.

UH, CERTAINLY I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO KEEP THE BOARD FULL AND KEEP THEM MOVING, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'VE TASKED THEM WITH, UH, ITEMS TO, TO HELP US WITH.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, IT WAS, UM, UM, NOT FORESEEING THAT THOSE, UH, PARTICULAR RESIGNATIONS HAPPENED ON APRIL 1ST OF THIS YEAR.

BUT, UH, I THINK IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE, UM, UH, FAIRNESS IN THE FOLLOWING OF THE POLICY AND UNDER ONCE AGAIN, UNTIL WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, I'M, I'M NOT CLEAR ON HOW, UH, THAT POLICY WAS FOLLOWED FOR THESE PARTICULAR INTERVIEWS BEING SCHEDULED.

UM, I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE APPOINTING NEW PEOPLE TO BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS UNTIL WE'VE CLARIFIED THAT AND HAD THAT DISCUSSION ON THE POLICY BECAUSE THERE CERTAINLY SEEMS TO BE AT LEAST SOME AMBIGUITY OR NON CLARITY ON WHAT, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I DID HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE APPLICANT.

I HAD AN EMAIL TO, UM, MR. COONS REGARDING, UM, PRESIDENCY.

AND SO I WAS WAITING FOR SOME KIND OF CONFIRMATION ON HOW RESIDENCIES ESTABLISHED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THE CITY AND IN THE STATE FOR THE 12 PRIOR MONTHS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

I THINK SCOTT'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT.

SO HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A RESPONSE.

SO THE QUESTION THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION, MAYOR COUNCIL SCOTT.

SO AS CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD, THERE WAS CONFUSION, UH, BASED ON THE GENERIC APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE HAD ONLINE, WE'VE BASICALLY BEEN USING ONE APPLICATION FOR ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.

UH, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME CRITERIA FOR APPLYING, UH, THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION HAS A SIX MONTH RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.

AND THE, THE STATEMENT IN THE CHARTER IS THAT, UH, BY THE TIME THEY ARE APPOINTED, THEY WILL, THEY SHOULD HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY OF RESIDE IN THE CITY FOR THOSE SIX MONTHS.

THAT'S THE BOARD THAT HAS SIX MONTHS, SOME HAVE 12, SOME DON'T HAVE A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.

SO WE'VE TALKED INTERNALLY ABOUT HAVING A MORE SPECIFIC, UH, APPLICATION

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DEPENDING ON THE BOARD THEY'RE APPLYING TO.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS THAT'S WHERE BRADSHAW.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HAVE COMMENTS.

UM, BUT I HAD THE SAME QUESTION AS YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.

I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE SIX MONTH VERSUS 12 MONTH, UM, REQUIREMENT FOR THE BOARD, BUT I ACTUALLY VERY GLAD THAT IT'S THE SIX MONTH BECAUSE PATRICIA REALLY WOWED ME WITH HER RESUME PORTRAIT, PATRICIA.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, BUT I PRINTED OUT ALL NINE PAGES OF YOUR RESUME AND HIGHLIGHTED EVERYTHING THAT I LOVED ABOUT IT.

AND HONESTLY, I WISH WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE YOU ON FULL-TIME STAFF HERE IN THE CITY, BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR EXPERIENCE IS INCREDIBLE WORKING WITH THE COLORADO GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, MAIN STREET MANAGER, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

THESE, THESE ARE TITLES, AND I PARTICULARLY LOVED ON YOUR ACTUAL APPLICATION THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THE MOMENTUM OF THE CITY AND THE, THAT THE CITY HAS CREATED AROUND QUALITY JOB CREATION, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING HIGH VALUE AMENITIES AND RETAINING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FAMILIES WHO LIVE HERE COMBINING FORM AND FUNCTION CREATES BALANCE.

AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED ON OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SO I WAS, I WAS REALLY GLAD THAT IT WAS THE SIX MONTHS AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON THERE.

THANK YOU, COUNSELOR BRADSHAW, ANYONE ELSE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET? UM, YOU KNOW, MY COMMENTARY ON THE TWO CANDIDATES IS THAT ONE, I DO THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR APPLICATION.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT PART IS CLEAR.

THE SIX MONTH REQUIREMENT IS ACTUALLY PER THE CHARTER.

UH, SO THAT'S, UH, INDISPUTABLE FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS BEING A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, UH, WHICH I'M, UM, I'M VERY MUCH, UM, I'M VERY MUCH GLAD TO SEE.

AND AS, AND AS FAR AS THE, THE, THE, THE PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE DISCUSSED WHETHER OR NOT THAT PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED, I MEAN, WE DISCUSSED IT 45 MINUTES, A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO, WE WENT INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED.

WE MAY OR MAY NOT ALL AGREE.

UM, MY OPINION IS THAT THE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED.

AND IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT PROCESS MORE CLEAR THAT CERTAINLY WORTHY OF A DISCUSSION, UH, BUT AT, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THESE TWO, UH, APPLICANTS, THEY WERE BROUGHT IN USHERED IN UNDER, UH, AN INTERVIEW PROCESS AND THE SELECTION PROCESS THAT, UH, PRODUCED TWO GOOD, UH, CANDIDATES.

AND AS A RESULT, I THINK THAT IT BEHOOVES US, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE ABRUPT RESIGNATION, IT BEHOOVES US TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THESE TWO QUALIFIED CANDIDATES ON, UH, WHO'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UM, WITH US.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M READY TO VOTE ON THIS ONE.

UH, AND I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD.

BUT THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

SO, UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HASN'T DISCUSSED WISHES TO DISCUSS, IF NOT, I'LL GO BACK TO COUNCILOR ELLISON, CASPER, ALISON, GO AHEAD.

UH, A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, POINT OF CLARIFICATION, WHERE IN THE CHARTER DOES IT SAY FOR PNC, UH, TO BE SIX MONTHS RESIDENCY, I'LL GIVE YOU ALL A MOMENT BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE CHARTER AND SECTION 2.6, TWO STATES THAT QUALIFICATIONS, UM, FOR THE CHARTER ARE LISTED AS ONE, BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE, TO BE A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES AND BE A QUALIFIED VOTER OF THE CITY FOR HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS AND IN THE CITY FOR AT LEAST 12 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS AND FIVE, NOT BE DELINQUENT ON ANY AND DEAD DEBTEDNESS TO THE CITY.

AND THEN FINALLY, SIX, IT, AN APPOINTMENT MAY NOT BE A CITY EMPLOYEE.

THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL SHALL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR APPOINTMENT TO A COMMITTEE ON THIS.

THE INDIVIDUAL MEETS THE FOLLOWING QUALIFICATIONS, WHICH I JUST READ.

SO IS THERE ANOTHER SPOT IN THE CHARTER THAT TALKS ABOUT THE, UH, SIX MONTHS FOR FINANCE ZONING IN PARTICULAR? THERE IS.

AND IF YOU GIVE ME ONE SECOND, I WILL FIND THAT FOR YOU.

UH, HOLD OFF ON ANY NEW APPOINTMENTS.

UH, APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IF IT'S SIX MONTHS, BUT LIKE I SAID, ONLY PLACE I'VE SEEN IN A CHARTER FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR A COMMITTEE HAS BEEN THAT SECTION SECTION TWO DASH SIX TWO.

UH, SO ONCE AGAIN, UM, I REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL TO, UH,

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I KNOW WE HAD A DISCUSSION.

IT WAS FOR 24 MINUTES, NOT 45, BUT 24 MINUTES.

WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY 23RD ABOUT THIS, UM, MANY OF THE SAME POINTS THAT, UH, I'M GOING TO MAKE TONIGHT.

UH, BUT AS WELL AS THE QUALIFICATIONS, UM, HAVE BEEN MET, AND IF BY THE SPIRIT OF THE POLICY, IF THAT WAS, UM, WHAT WAS DETERMINED, BECAUSE LAST TIME IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE 13 APPLICANTS, STAFF PLANNING, STAFF NARROWED THAT DOWN TO SIX AND FIVE SHOWED UP FOR THE INTERVIEW.

UM, IT WAS STATED THE LAST TIME THAT THERE WAS NARROWED FROM 13 TO SIX BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS OF THEIR RESUME COVER LETTER AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCES RELATIVE TO PLANNING AND ZONING, ONCE AGAIN, WITHIN OUR POLICY AND WITHIN THE CHARTER, THOSE ARE NOT STATED QUALIFICATIONS FOR A BOARD OR COMMISSION, UM, DITCH THE POLICY STATES THAT CITY STAFF WILL EVALUATE APPLICATIONS FROM THOSE CITIZENS WHO MEET THE CHARTER'S BASIC CRITERIA FOR MEMBERSHIP IN A FIRST ROUND EVALUATION.

THE ONLY QUALIFICATIONS LISTED ARE THE ONES THAT I STATED EARLIER FROM SECTION TWO DASH SIX TWO, THE POLICY ALSO READS THE STAFF MAY DETERMINED SIZE AND OR QUALIFICATIONS OF THOSE APPLICANT POOL ARE INSUFFICIENT AND REOPEN ADVOCATE SHIN, OR OTHERWISE EXTENDED DEADLINE TO ALLOW FOR MORE CITIZENS TO APPLY.

I E IF THERE ARE NOT, UH, CANDIDATES THAT APPLIED THAT MET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, UH, STATED IN THE CHARTER.

UM, AND IF, IF THAT IS NOT WHAT THAT STATING, AND THAT THIS IS PART OF WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR CLARITY ON THE SECOND, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN THE POLICY STATES THAT BASED ON THE FIRST ROUND EVALUATION OF APPLICATIONS, APPLICANTS THAT ARE DETERMINED TO BEST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE BOARD OR COMMISSION POSITION WILL BE SELECTED TO PARTICIPATE IN A SECOND ROUND PERSONAL INTERVIEW CONDUCTED BY, UH, THE FOUR MEMBERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, THE MAYOR CITY MANAGER, DIRECTOR OF THAT DEPARTMENT, THAT IS THE LIAISON OR THE CHAIR, UH, FOR THAT OR THEIR DESIGNEE.

THAT IS WHAT THE POLICY STATES.

SO THAT IS WHY, THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MADE ANY NEW APPOINTMENTS, WHICH MY, I HAD REQUESTED THIS AGENDA ITEM, EVEN ON FEBRUARY 23RD.

I STATED THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO BRING FORWARD AN AGENDA ITEM, TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS POLICY.

UM, WELL, BEFORE WE HAD THE RESIGNATIONS, UH, AND SO I BROUGHT FORWARD THIS AGENDA ITEM, UH, AND THEN WE HAD THE DEREGULATE NATIONS.

UM, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT HAPPENED, CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR BOARDS ARE ACTIVE AND FULL AS POSSIBLE HAVING MINUS AND Z COMMISSIONERS.

THEY STILL, UH, HAVE A QUORUM WITH FIVE.

UH, OBVIOUSLY IT JUST MEANS, UH, ONLY AT MOST ONE CAN BE ABSENT FROM THE MEETING ON ANY GIVEN TUESDAY.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND OF.

IF, IF THE PROCESS THAT HAPPENED FOR THESE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER, YOU HAD SEVEN PEOPLE, WHERE WERE THOSE OTHER SEVEN THAT WEREN'T CHOSEN? WHERE DID THEY MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS OUT THERE ONLY QUALIFICATIONS STATED OUTLINED IN THE CHARTER.

SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO JUST HOLD OFF A LITTLE BIT, TILL WE GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE POLICY.

WE MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE OF THE POLICY, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY FUTURE NEW APPOINTMENTS.

THANK YOU, COUNSELOR ELLISON.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT OR THOUGHTS TO THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE A MOTION A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

UH I'M OF THE OPINION TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT.

I DON'T, UM, THINK THAT OUR POLICY WAS FOLLOWED.

WE DISCUSSED IT OR THAT OUR POLICY WAS NOT FOLLOWED.

WE DISCUSSED IT, UH, AT LENGTH.

UH, I THINK WE'RE IN A SEMANTICAL ISSUE.

THE, THE HIRING GROUP, THE FOUR, UH, WE'RE INVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END, FROM THE, UH, INITIAL BEDDING, WHICH ALLOWED FOR THE 13 TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD AS QUALIFIED, UH, TO THE, UH, PARING DOWN, WHICH ARE THE SIX WERE BROUGHT IN TO INTERVIEW TO THE NOMINATION, UH, FOLLOWED ALONG EXACTLY AS IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED SINCE 2017, WHEN THIS POLICY WAS INITIATED, WE'VE FOLLOWED THE EXACT SAME STEPS THAT WE HAVE FOLLOWED SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING, UH, TO QUALIFY AND VET THESE, UH, THESE CANDIDATES.

BUT WITH THAT SAID, I THINK WE CAN PROVIDE MORE CLARITY AND CONTEXT, UH, AT THE END, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WISHES TO DO, IF WE WISH TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING IT FOR THE FUTURE, UH, BUT NOTHING IN THE WAY, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, UM, ARE THE NON, THE APPLICANTS WERE BROUGHT FORWARD AS NOMINEES HAS CHANGED SINCE 2017.

CERTAINLY NOT THIS ONE.

AND AS A RESULT, THAT'S WHY I'M READY TO MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED TO

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MOVE IT FORWARD.

UH, AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING UP THE POLICY, UH, SEPARATE FROM THESE TWO CANDIDATES.

SCOTT.

MAYOR COUNCIL HAS GOT SERVICE FOR THE RECORD.

I THINK I'M, I'M SEEING THE DISCREPANCY HEARING COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON IN THE, IN THE SECTION HE'S QUOTING, UH, IN THE CHARTER SECTION TWO, SIX, TWO TALKS ABOUT QUALIFICATIONS FOR SERVING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT THEN IT SETS OUT ANOTHER SECTION BEYOND THAT FOR THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION.

SO IF WE LOOK AT TWO, SIX, EIGHT, UH, REALLY STARTING AT TWO SIX, SEVEN THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THE FIRST SENTENCE TALKS ABOUT QUALIFIED VOTERS THAT HAVE RESIDED WITHIN THE CITY FOR SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THEIR APPOINTMENT.

THAT IS ADDITIONALLY IN SECTION 10.04 OF THE CHARTER.

SO IT'S IN TWO PLACES, THE SAME LANGUAGE, QUALIFIED VOTERS HAVE RESIDED WITHIN THE CITY FOR SIX MONTHS.

IT'S EXPANDING THE POOL BESIDES NEW PEOPLE.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING, UH, NEW OR SUBSTANTIVE THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THIS DISCUSSION CUSTOMER FOR SCALE? WELL, I HOPE WHAT I SAY, SOME SUBSTANTIVE, WHATEVER YOU SAY.

SO I'M GOING TO BE HONEST AFTER THE SITUATION WITH P AND Z, I WANTED TO LIKE BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO THESE PEOPLE.

I KNOW THESE WERE PREVIOUSLY INTERVIEWED THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN REAPPOINTED AND CLEARLY WE'RE NOT SATISFIED IN THEIR POSITION.

SO MY CONCERN IS WE NEED TO LOOK AT MORE THAN JUST A RESUME AND JUST RESIDENCY WHAT'S BY THE WAY, I WOULD PREFER SOMEBODY WHO HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME IN KYLE.

UM, SO WE CAN GET LIKE AN, YOU KNOW, OLD SCHOOL INSIDER'S PERSPECTIVE.

UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY AND ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE IS WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE PROACTIVE.

PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS, PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIKE THINK ON THEIR OWN INDEPENDENTLY, BECAUSE P AND Z DIRECTLY AFFECTS US.

EVERY MEETING.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THERE ARE DOING THINGS PROACTIVELY AND DON'T CAN, CAN SETTLE WITH THE GUIDANCE THAT WE GIVE DURING A MEETING CUSTOMERS THOUGH.

I THINK YOU FAILED TO MISS ONE POINT THOUGH, Z COMMISSIONERS ARE PUTTING A RESUME TO DO A JOB, NOT TO GET A PHONE CALL, TO GET BADGERED.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE MISSING HERE IS THAT WHEN YOU'VE GOT A PNC COMMISSIONER AND THEY'VE MADE A DECISION, THEY DON'T NEED TO GET A PHONE CALL FROM A COUNCIL MEMBERS AND BADGERING THEM AND MAKING THEM REGRET WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T DO THAT THE REASON WE'VE GOT THREE VACANCIES, NOT TWO, WE HAD ONE PRIOR IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LEARN OUR ROLE.

WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THEIR JOB, BUT WE CANNOT PUSH THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO RESIGN.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE, WE'RE BRINGING IN PEOPLE THAT ARE QUALIFIED.

LET'S NOT START FROM ZERO.

IF WE'VE GOT A CANDIDATE THAT CAN START AT 70, CAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE RESUME, THEY'VE GOT THE EXPERIENCE.

LET'S START THERE.

LET'S NOT START AT ZERO.

THE START HE'S 70 SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT MAYOR PRO TEM COACH.

OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE, HAD YOUR FINGER ON A BUTTON, CUSTOMER AND BRADSHAW.

UM, SO I ACTUALLY THINK THAT IT'S A WONDERFUL THING THAT WE HAVE TWO FAIRLY NEW RESIDENTS WHO HAVE MOVED TO KYLE AND WANT TO VOLUNTEER AND CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR COMMUNITY IN THAT WAY.

I CAN REMEMBER, IN FACT, ALL THE TWO OF US ON THIS DIOCESE ARE TRANSPLANTS HERE IN KYLE AND WE CLEARLY CARE VERY DEEPLY ABOUT THIS CITY TO THE CAPACITY THAT WE ARE NOW SITTING ON CITY COUNCIL.

SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO GET IN AND JUST DO WHAT THEY CAN TO GIVE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF THIS CALIBER.

IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN VERY WELL VETTED.

I ACTUALLY DID REACH OUT TO, UM, ONE OF THE CANDIDATES AS WELL.

UM, JUST TO OVER JUST SAID THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD NOT DO THAT.

UM, BUT, BUT I HAD QUESTIONS AND SHE WAS, SHE WAS WONDERFUL AND SHE ANSWERED THEM.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT REPRIMANDING THEM FOR ONLY BEING HERE FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

COULD I THINK THAT REALLY, I THINK THAT REALLY FOR ONE LIMITS THE POOL OF PROSPECTS ON FOR ANYONE ON THE BOARDS AND THE COMMISSIONS, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO KYLE.

WE ARE ALL FAIRLY NEW TO THE CITY.

THE CITY IS GROWING SO QUICKLY.

AND SO WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS SORT OF BACKGROUND IN THIS SORT OF EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY IN A PARTICULAR AREA THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO VOLUNTEER AND CONTRIBUTE THEIR TIME TO, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD COME IN THEM FOR THAT RATHER THAN THE OPPOSITE.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW? UM, AS FAR AS WHO'S ON P AND Z, WHO ARE NEW PEOPLE AND WHO ARE OLD TIME, KYLE PEOPLE.

SO MY CONCERN IS NOT NECESSARILY LIMITING THE POOL.

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I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY GO TO COUNSELOR ELLISON NOW AS WELL.

HE WAS, HE WAS NEXT UP CUSTOMER.

ALISON, GO AHEAD.

UM, SO CERTAINLY I THINK SH YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THE RESUMES AS WELL.

I COMPLETELY CONCUR WITH THE, UH, COMMENTS OF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, PARTICULARLY, UH, MADE ABOUT, UH, ONE OF THE CANDIDATES AND HOW WELL QUALIFIED THEY ARE.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE CANDIDATES.

ONCE AGAIN, I REQUESTED OF THIS AGENDA ITEM AND BROUGHT IT UP BACK IN FEBRUARY, AND NOW I'VE GOTTEN IT ON THE AGENDA.

HAD THERE NOT BEEN A RESIGNATION ON OUR P AND Z, UH, COMMISSION ON APRIL 1ST, WE WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW.

AND WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY.

UH, AND IF, IF AS A COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL HEARD FROM THE MAYOR, HE FEELS THAT THE, THE POLICY WAS FOLLOWED.

I BROUGHT IT FORWARD AGENDA ITEM AND HIGHLIGHTED THE SECTIONS THAT I DON'T THINK, UH, WERE, WERE FOLLOWED ON, ON THE POLICY AS IT IS.

IT WAS STATED BACK ON FEBRUARY 23RD, THAT IT WAS THE PLANNING STAFF AND, UH, DIRECTOR COONS THAT NARROWED THE FIELD FROM 13 TO SIX, NOT THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT DO THE INTERVIEWS.

SO THAT, THAT SAID DIFFERENCE IN STATEMENTS THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AT IS DOES THE COUNCIL FIELD THAT WITH THE, UH, INTERVIEWS THAT HAPPENED IN THE APPOINTMENT THAT THE POLICY WAS FOLLOWED AND IN MY UNDERSTANDING OF READING OF THE POLICY, UH, IT, IT STATES THAT THAT THE BASIC CRITERIA IS OF THE QUALIFICATIONS, THIS AND THE CHARTER.

AND IF DO WE KNOW IF THE OTHER SEVEN PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T CHOSEN TO BE INTERVIEWED, DID THEY MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE STATED IN OUR POLICY AND OUTLINED IN THE CHARTER THAT THAT IS, THAT IS SIMPLY WHAT I'M STATING, AND I'M NOT STATING THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, UH, MS. UH, SNIDE OUT AND, UH, THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, UM, I'M SORRY.

UM, ART, UH, MR. CHASE.

UM, ART OUTSTANDING CANDIDATES.

THEY COULD STILL VERY WELL BE THE CREAM OF THE CROP.

IF ALL OF THOSE WERE EVALUATED, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER SEVEN FOLKS THAT ALSO WERE WILLING TO HELP SERVE AND VOLUNTEER FOR THEIR COMMUNITY REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEIR RESIDENT'S REQUIREMENTS IS.

AND THAT IS IF IT'S SIX, THEN THAT'S FINE.

AND MOSTLY THAT, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO JUST GET A POINT OF CLARIFICATION WITH A CITY ATTORNEY TO SEE OBVIOUSLY THE CHARTER, UH, CAN ONLY BE CHANGED BY THE VOTERS, BUT IF WE NEEDED TO GET THAT CLARITY, THAT THERE, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN ONE PART OF THE CHARTER, IT SAYS 12 MONTHS.

AND THE OTHER PART, IT SAYS SIX MONTHS, IS THAT SUFFICIENT? IF IT IS, THAT'S FINE.

UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH, UH, PERSONALLY, WHETHER IT'S, UM, A PERSON THAT'S BEEN HERE JUST OVER THE QUALIFICATION PERIOD, OR HAS BEEN HERE 20 YEARS.

UH, I AGREE THEY ALL HAVE A PERSPECTIVE, UH, THERE COULD BE UNIQUE, UM, AND HELPFUL TO THE CONVERSATION, UM, AS WELL AS PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN A BACKGROUND OF PLANNING OR ENGINEERING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, ONCE AGAIN, I BROUGHT THIS UP IN FEBRUARY, IN FEBRUARY 23RD, THERE HAD BEEN SOME GREAT PLANNING, COMMISSION HUNTING AS ZONING COMMISSIONERS.

DID I, BEFORE I SERVE, WHEN I SERVED, UH, AFTER I SERVED THAT CURRENTLY SERVE THAT, YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO THE WAY IT IS NOW, I'M NOT SURE IF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD MAKE IT TO THE SECOND ROUND, UH, TO BE INTERVIEWED.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO, UH, UH, HOPE THAT WE CAN DO IS JUST GET A CLARIFICATION ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FURTHER WITH ANY, UH, UH, FURTHER APPOINTMENTS THAT ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I BROUGHT THIS UP BACK ON FEBRUARY 23RD, THAT I WANTED TO DO AN AGENDA ITEM TODAY, HAVING A DISCUSSION ON THIS.

UH, IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT THOSE APPOINTMENTS CAME THROUGH.

AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, UH, WANTING TO GET THOSE FIELDS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE, WE DISREGARD THOSE OTHER SEVEN AS WELL, UH, THAT MAY HAVE MET EVERY BIT OF QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE OUTLINED TO THEM.

AND DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY AS HAS BEEN STATED BOTH TODAY AND ON FEBRUARY 23RD TO SHOW HOW THEY WOULD, UH, REALLY BRING SOMETHING, UH, TO OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT WE CAN'T SEE ON A RESUME OR A COVER LETTER OR IN THEIR, UH, UH, LENGTH OF EXPERIENCE.

SO I REQUEST AGAIN, THAT COUNCIL IS, IT SAYS NOTHING TO DO WITH MS. STOUT, UH, SNIDE OUT AND MR. CHASE, UH, BUT FOR US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT PARTICULARLY PART FIRST, AND IF WE NEED TO TAKE OUT ANY AMBIGUITY OR MAKE ANYTHING CLEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT IT, IT STILL FITS WITH WHAT HAPPENED, THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO.

BUT I, I JUST NOT, I'M NOT CLEAR ON THAT.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

AND ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, ON FEBRUARY 23RD, IT WAS NOT STATED THAT THE FOUR THAT DID THE INTERVIEW WERE A PART OF THAT PROCESS FROM BEGINNING.

IT WAS STATED THAT THE PLANNING STAFF NARROWED IT DOWN FROM 13

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TO SIX BASED ON RESUMES, COVER LETTERS AND EXPERIENCE.

THANK YOU, CUSTOMER ELLISON.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, AS I'VE SAID, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE RE THE WAY I PERCEIVE THAT HAS HAVING GONE DOWN.

IN FACT, IT'S JUST, I WOULD STATE, THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY THAT IT WENT DOWN.

UH, STAFF, UH, DID NOT, UH, ELIMINATE ANYONE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, STAFF DID NOT ELIMINATE ANYONE FROM THE APPLICANT POOL.

UH, STAFF PERFORMED WORK TO NARROW IT DOWN AND PROVIDE THAT TO THE, TO THE GROUP, THE PANEL, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION THE PANEL THEN LOOKED AT ALL THE APPLICATIONS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT, THAT, THAT SERVICE THAT STAFF PROVIDED WAS APPROPRIATE.

UH, WE, UH, AND AS A RESULT, NO ONE WAS EXCLUDED, UH, BECAUSE OF A STAFF DECISION, THE VETTING TOOK PLACE, UH, AS IT, AS IT ALWAYS HAPPENS, UH, WITH, UH, THE COMMITTEE HAVING, UH, OVERSIGHT OVER THAT.

UH, AND SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MAY NOT LIKE THAT STAFF WAS PROACTIVE TO KIND OF HELP WITH THE LARGE APPLICANT POOL, UH, AT NO POINT DID THEY, WAS THAT TH THAT STAFF'S MOVING, UH, SOME OF THE APPLICANTS, UH, FROM, UH, TOWARDS THE INTERVIEW LIST AND SOME NOT, UH, WAS AT NO POINT WAS THAT THE ACTUAL SELECTION PROCESS, IT WASN'T ACTUALLY NARROWED DOWN, UH, UNTIL THE FOUR, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS MADE THAT DECISION TO, UH, GO WITH THAT NARROWED DOWN LIST, WHICH IS PER POLICY AS THE WAY WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT.

UH, ALWAYS, UH, SINCE I'VE BEEN AROUND AT LEAST SO WE CAN DISCUSS WHETHER WE WANT TO HAVE EVERYONE BE INTERVIEWED MANDATORY AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS LATER, BUT THE POLICY WAS FOLLOWED, UH, THAT BRINGS IT FORWARD.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE, UNLESS WE HAVE, UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON TOP OF THESE, THIS DISCUSSION OR NEW TO ADD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE, UH, UH, NOMINEES FURTHER, THEIR WILLINGNESS TO, TO SERVE.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VOTE AND WE CAN DISCUSS THE OTHER ITEMS WHEN WE GET TO IT.

AGENDA, CIP ROAD PROJECTS, AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.

ROLL CALL VOTE.

MITCHELL ELLISON, SAY IT AGAIN, ELLISON.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO TWO.

NEXT UP, UH, CONSENT

[VII. Consent Agenda]

THESE ARE OUR CURRENT ROAD BOND PROJECTS.

I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE TWO.

THEY'RE STILL AT SANDY CORSETS LAYMAN ROAD IN BURLESON STREET, BUT LAYMAN ROAD IS NOT COMPLETE.

WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED FROM THE CONTRACTOR.

SO YOU WON'T SEE THIS ON THE PRESENTATION NEXT TIME WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE.

THANK GOODNESS.

PICTURE WHERE WE ARE, UM, THIS PAST WEEKEND, SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

AND ONE MORE TO GO HILL STREET AND DRAINAGE PROJECT BASED ON OUR CURRENT ESTIMATES FOR ABOUT 48% COMPLETE, UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON CHANGE ORDER.

NUMBER TWO, UH, CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE IS IN PROGRESS.

UH, BUT THIS IS GONNA PUSH US OVER THE 5% CONTINGENCY THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THAT CONTINGENCY WAS A LITTLE OVER $124,000 INTO THE PROJECT MANAGER HAS BEEN MAKING CHANGES TO HELP MOVE THE PROJECT ALONG FASTER AND ADD MATERIALS WERE NEEDED AND SO FORTH.

SO, UH, I'LL BRING YOU A, UH, ITEMIZED LIST OF THAT CHANGE ORDER.

NUMBER TWO.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN SPENDING THAT EXTRA MONEY, BUT ON THIS CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE, THAT WILL MEAN THAT WE NEED TO COME BACK FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT.

UH, AS A CHANGE ORDER, UH, THE CONTRACTOR IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE SOUTH HALF OF THE WINDY HILL ROAD.

UH, RIGHT NOW INDIAN PAINTBRUSH IS CLOSED.

CHERRYWOOD IS OPEN, UH, PAVING IS SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 14TH.

SO HOPEFULLY I WILL HAVE A TRAFFIC SHIFT TO THE SOUTH HALF OF THE WEEK OF APRIL 19TH.

SO IT'S MOVING ALONG VERY WELL.

THAT'S A CURRENT

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UH, WE PARKED 78% COMPLETE.

THEY STILL HAVEN'T FINISHED THE DRIVEWAY PAUSE FACILITY.

UH, THEY ARE WORKING ON THE MANHOLE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD, AND SHOULD HAVE THAT COMPLETED FAIRLY QUICKLY THEN, UH, THEY STILL HAVE A MANHOLE IN THE WEST SIDE OF THE SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD THAT, THAT PREDICTOR MANHOLES IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR ELLIOTT BRANCH CONTRACTOR TIES IN TO THAT PROJECT.

ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION PROJECT.

UH, WE'RE ABOUT 51% COMPLETE.

THEY CONTINUE WORKING ON THE, UM, PIPE REWORK, UH, THE FORM WORK, THE REBAR, ALL THE MISCELLANEOUS MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE DONE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

THEY'RE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK ON SATURDAYS JUST TO EXPEDITE THE SCHEDULE AND MAKE SURE THEY GET BACK ON SCHEDULE.

UH, THEY, UM, ARE STILL WORKING ON DESIGN FOR THE BELT PRESS OR WHAT WE CALL THE DE-WATERING PROCESS.

AND THAT DESIGN IS DUE ON APRIL 30TH.

UH, THEY'RE STILL IN THE DEVIATIONS IN THE CONTRACT PROGRESS AND CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULES.

SO WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE.

THE EXPANSION IS, UH, WILL BE COMPLETED ONLINE MARCH OF 2022.

AND, AND THE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THAT'S 11 MONTHS AWAY.

SO WE'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER, QUITE A BIT OF CONCRETE WORK, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF FILLING GOING ON AROUND THE, UH, HEADWORKS, UH, THE WALLS ARE GOING UP ON THE OPERATIONS BUILDING.

UH, THEY STILL HAVE WORK TO DO ON THE DIGESTERS ON THE FAR RIGHT THAT'S THOSE WALLS STILL NEED TO GO IN.

SO THEY STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON THE FORM, WORK IN THE CONCRETE AND STEEL BEN CREEK INTERCEPTOR WE'RE AT 27% COMPLETE, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE, IF YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S HEADED TOWARDS THE TREATMENT PLANT.

SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO PUT ANOTHER INTERCEPTOR ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE, OF KYLE.

OKAY, WELL SITE NUMBER FOUR, WE'RE KIND OF OLD.

AND HOLD ON THAT ONE, WE'RE WAITING FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO GIVE US A ESTIMATE OF SOME ADDITIONAL WORK WE'VE ASKED THEM FOR ON THE DOWNTOWN ELEVATED, AND WE CONTINUOUSLY CALL AND TRY TO GET THEM TO HURRY UP AND, UH, GIVE US AN ESTIMATE.

WE ARE SITTING ON HIS RETAINAGE.

WE ARE SITTING ON SOME OF THIS PAY, SO THAT'S, UH, WE GET, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL GIVE SOME LEVERAGE TO GET HIM, TELL HER, HURRY UP AND GIVE US TO PAY US HER COST ESTIMATE FOR THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WHOLE POST ROAD.

WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT THE INTERSECTION OF COUNTY ROAD ONE 58, AND THEY'LL POST ROAD THEY'VE ASKED FROM ADDITIONAL WORK TO BE DONE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT WITH THEM.

UH, RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU HAVE IS THE CONTRACT.

I SHOULDN'T SAY OUR CONTRACTOR RFKS COUNTY IS OUR CONTRACTOR.

THEY ARE EXCAVATING ON THE SOUTH END OF THE PROJECT.

THEY'RE JUST ABOUT READY TO GET ELEVATIONS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE, THE MATERIAL NEEDS TO GO IN.

THAT SHOULD BE DONE LATER THIS WEEK.

AND HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK, THEY'LL START PUTTING BASE IN THERE.

THERE'S ABOUT 25 INCHES, 26 INCHES OF BASE THAT GOES BACK IN THERE.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY HEAVY DUTY ROAD AND ADDITIONAL ABOUT IN ADDITION TO ABOUT SIX INCHES OF ASPHALT LA BRANCH INTERCEPTOR.

THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF PICKS UP WHERE SOUTH SIDE DROPS OFF.

UH, WE'RE AT ABOUT 14% COMPLETE RIGHT NOW, THE CONTRACTORS, UH, WORKING ON CLEARING AND, UH, PROVIDING EROSION CONTROLS, ET CETERA, RANCH ROUNDABOUT, UH, LAST WEEK, TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER AND THE CONTRACTOR AND THE ENGINEER THEY'RE ABOUT 95% COMPLETE, AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THEIR PROPOSED PLAN FOR THE MEDIAN.

WE WERE DIRECTED AS STAFF TO LOOK FOR GRANTS THAT WOULD HELP US EMPLOY AN ADDITIONAL VICTIM SERVICES ADVOCATE.

PARAMOUNT SUBDIVISION, ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOPER, THEY'RE ABOUT 75% COMPLETE, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE THINKING IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER THREE WEEKS FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THAT PARTICULAR ROAD AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, LEON.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR LEON ON THOSE ITEMS? IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN, LIAM.

SAME HERE, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

YOU'VE GOT A FEW THINGS TO ADD TALKING ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS ROADS.

UH, THANK YOU, MARY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE, AND WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO NOT FOR YOUR REVIEW.

AND ALSO HAVE TWO OF MY STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE APPROACHING FROM BEHIND ME THAT HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF WORK TO SECURE THESE TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST IS ITEM NUMBER 14.

THIS IS ASKING PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR AND ACCEPT A STEP GRANT FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

STEP GRANT STANDS FOR OUR SELECTIVE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM.

THESE ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED GRANT PROGRAMS THAT THE STATE OVERSEES AND THEY'RE DESIGNED TO IMPROVE ROADWAY SAFETY AND TO REDUCE SERIOUS INJURIES.

AND THOSE KILLED FROM MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS.

THIS PARTICULAR GRANT IS CALLED A CLICK IT OR TICKET GRANT.

IT WILL RUN FROM THE DATES OF MAY THE 24TH OF THIS YEAR THROUGH JUNE, THE SIXTH OF THIS YEAR.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE GRANT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION IS $8,100.

OUR MATCH AS THESE TYPES OF GRANTS HAVE A 20% MATCH WOULD BE 1,620 OF THAT TOTAL.

UH, WE'RE NOT GUARANTEED THE 8,100, THAT WOULD BE OUR GRANT

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SUBMISSION.

AND CERTAINLY TXDOT COULD, COULD ALTER THAT IT WOULD NOT EXCEED THAT AMOUNT, BUT COULD COME IN A LITTLE BIT LOWER IF TXDOT SHOULD GRANT THAT AMOUNT.

WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ABOUT 131 BETWEEN 100 AND 130 HOURS OF ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, OUT ON THE INTERSTATE OUT.

AND I'LL, I'M GONNA LET SERGEANT VERONICA HAD FOCUSED ON THAT PART, BUT IT WOULD PUT ABOUT A HUNDRED TO 130 HOURS OF ADDITIONAL MANPOWER OUT ON OUR HIGHWAYS TO IMPROVE THOSE ROADWAYS DURING THIS UPCOMING HOLIDAY, UH, IN MAY, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT CONSIDERATION AGAIN, THAT'S COMING UP IN A FEW WEEKS.

WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE SHORT NOTICE ON THAT.

WE JUST BECAME AWARE OF THAT PARTICULAR GRANT.

UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ANSWER, AND I'LL ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE I BRING UP SERGEANT VERONA BECAUSE HE'S WORKED HARD ON BOTH SECURING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS GRANT, AS WELL AS OTHER GRANTS FOR THAT DIVISION THAT YOU SAY YOU HAVE SEEN IN SOME RECENT COUNCIL MEETINGS.

UH, AGAIN, THIS ACT, THIS PARTICULAR STEP GRANT IS FOCUSED ON REDUCING ACCIDENTS.

THAT'S HOW TXDOT WILL AWARD AND AUTHORIZE THE GRANT TO THE CITY OF KYLE.

SHOULD WE RECEIVE IT? UH, YOU KINDA KNOW THE TIMEFRAME, THE HOURS I'M GOING TO COVER.

UH, ACTUALLY, IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO LET SERGEANT RHONDA COME UP AND JUST GIVE YOU A REAL BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THIS GRANT IS GOING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SHOULD WE GET YOUR PERMISSION AND SHOULD WE RECEIVE IT? SERGEANT RONNA, WHO IS OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION SUPERVISOR, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THE CLICKER TICKET GRANT IS, UH, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE OTHER TECH STOCK GRANTS.

WE WERE UP HERE RECENTLY REQUESTING PERMISSION FOR THE SAME, UH, SAME PROVIDER TAKE STOCK.

THIS ONE IS FOCUSED ON SEATBELT ENFORCEMENT.

THE STATE OF TEXAS MAINTAINS DATA FROM CRASH REPORTS AROUND THE STATE, UH, STATE, ALL INCLUSIVELY, UM, FOR 2021, FYI, 2021, THERE WERE A LITTLE OVER 2,600 REPORTED CRASHES RELATED TO NOT WEARING SEAT BELTS.

THE INJURIES THAT WERE EITHER A SERIOUS BODILY INJURY OR DEATH, UH, RELATED IN SOME WAY TO NOT WEARING A SEATBELT IN THE MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES THAT WAS STATEWIDE.

UM, THOSE NUMBERS ARE VASTLY UNREPORTED SIMPLY BECAUSE THE REALITY OF IT BY THE TIME THAT SURGE RESPONDERS GET THERE, UH, THOSE FOLKS HAVE BEEN PULLED OUT EITHER.

THEY CAN'T BE ASKED EFFECTIVELY BECAUSE THEY'RE EITHER DECEASED OR, UH, BEING TRANSPORTED THE HOSPITAL, THEY WEREN'T SEAT BELTS.

THEREFORE WE CANNOT GET THAT DATA.

UM, OR THE LIKELY RESPONSE IS YES, THOSE AREN'T MY SEATBELTS.

THOSE NUMBERS ARE, ARE UNDER-INFLATED IF YOU WILL, BUT THIS ONE ISN'T SPECIFIED FOR SEATBELT ENFORCEMENT.

WHAT THIS MEANS TO US AS FAR AS THAT ENFORCEMENT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 2.5 STOPS PER HOUR DURING THIS ENFORCEMENT TIME.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED ENFORCEMENT HOURS, THAT'S A HOUR PER HOUR, WE CAN DO THE MATH 2.5, IF NOT MORE, UM, WE HAVE TO FACTOR IN HIGH FLOWER LOW, IF YOU WILL, AS FAR AS, UH, WHO GET ON AN ARREST, SOMETHING THAT TAKES LONGER THAN A TRAFFIC STOP, THEN OF COURSE THAT'S GONNA, UM, TAKE AWAY FROM, FROM THOSE NUMBERS.

BUT ON AVERAGE, YES, 2.5 PER HOUR.

AND WHAT THIS IS DESIGNED TO DO IS WE'LL CREATE TWO ENFORCEMENT ZONES FOR THIS ENFORCEMENT PULL FROM THE K DATA PROVIDED BY TXDOT.

THAT'S JUST NO ACRONYM, BUT IT MEANS EITHER KILLED OR SERIOUS BODILY INJURY, SERIOUSLY INJURED, SERIOUSLY BODILY INJURY.

UM, OUR DATA SPECIFICALLY WAS ALONG I 35.

SO WE'RE CREATE FROM THAT K DATA PROVIDED BY TXDOT ARE THOSE TWO ZONES ALONG INTERSTATE 35.

SO THOSE ARE THE HOT SPOTS THAT USE THAT TERMINOLOGY IN THE REQUEST IS HOURS OF SPECIFICALLY ALONG 35.

SO THAT'S WHERE OUR ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE FOR THIS GRANT.

AND IN TURN, WHAT IT DOES TO OUR MOTOR DRIVING THROUGH IS THEY SEE TRAFFIC LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, PERFORMING A NUMBER OF STOPS IN INCREASED AND, UM, FOCUSED ENFORCEMENT IN THIS AREA.

SO THOSE COMMUTERS, THOSE MOTORS COMING THROUGH, THEY SEE OFFICERS, UM, HEAVILY HITTING THIS AREA AND WE CALL THIS A VISUAL DETERRENT WAS THAT, THAT THOSE MOTORISTS WILL SEE A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OUTS.

SO IT'S JUST A REACTION.

THEY TEND MOTORS WILL TEND TO SLOW DOWN AND PAY THE SPEED LIMITS AND CHECK THEIR FEET BELTS, MAKE SURE IT'S ON, UM, FRO WITH THAT WE EXPECT TO AS OUR CITY AND THE STATEWIDE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS DROP AS FAR AS THOSE INJURED OR KILLED IN MOTOR VEHICLES WHILE NOT WEARING SEATBELTS.

SO THAT'S THE OVERALL GOAL AND SCOPE OF THE, THE GRANT.

THANKS SARGE.

THE SECOND ITEM, SORRY.

THE SECOND ITEM THAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER 15.

THIS IS A ANOTHER GRANT APPLICATION, AS YOU WILL RECALL, IN OUR MOST RECENT BUDGET PROCESS FOR OUR CURRENT BUDGET,

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UH, OUR VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR, KELLY DELA GARSA IS HERE WITH ME.

SHE HAS SPENT MANY MONTHS RESEARCHING AVAILABLE GRANTS SO THAT WE COULD DO AS INSTRUCTED.

SHE HAS LOCATED A GRANT THAT ALLOWS US TO APPLY FOR A TWO YEAR GRANT FROM THE TEXAS OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THAT GRANT WILL PAY A MAXIMUM OF $45,000 PER YEAR.

WE WOULD USE THAT TOWARDS THE SALARY OF THAT INDIVIDUAL.

AND THEN WE HAVE IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL, ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, FOR THIS POSITION, UH, THOSE TOTALS.

I'M GOING TO TAKE OUT THE VEHICLE THERE THAT WE HAVE IN THE BOTTOM.

I ASKED KELLY TO GIVE ME GOING TO THE ALL IN POTENTIAL EXPENSES.

IF YOU LOOK AT HER TOTAL, THAT WOULD BE $18,000, ROUGHLY AND FRINGE BENEFITS PER YEAR, AND THEN FOR EQUIPMENT UNIFORMS TRAINING.

AND IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'VE CERTAINLY DISCUSSED OUR LEASE PROGRAM THAT WE USE ANNUALLY, YOU COULD SEE A $42,000 COSTS FROM THE CITY'S PORTION.

THESE GRANTS ARE GENERALLY AWARDED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.

SO WE WOULD PROBABLY BE NOTIFIED THAT WE'VE GOT THE GRANT PROBABLY JULY OR AUGUST, AND THEN WOULD IMMEDIATELY THE HIRING PROCESS TO FILL THAT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BASICALLY SEE STARTING IN THE EARLY FALL, ALMOST COORDINATED WITH OUR UPCOMING BUDGET PROCESS.

THE STATE TENDS TO USE A GRANT PROCESS THAT STARTS IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST.

THEY ARE SEPTEMBER, I'M SORRY.

THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FISCAL YEAR THAN WE DO.

UH, BUT WE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY ASK YOUR CONSIDERATION TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT AS INSTRUCTED DURING OUR BUDGET PROCESS.

I HAVE KELLY WITH ME WHO COULD CERTAINLY, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I CAN TELL YOU.

SHE HAS ALL KINDS OF DATA ABOUT THE INCREASE IN VOLUME OF HER, HER DUTIES AND ASSIGNMENTS, THE VOLUME OF CUSTOMERS THAT SHE HELPS VICTIMS OF CRIME, UH, HAS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND WITH OUR GROWING POPULATION, WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY EXPECT THAT TO INCREASE HER DUTIES ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US, AND IT WAS OBSERVED DURING OUR MOST RECENT BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE SHOULD LOOK FOR SOME ASSISTANCE TO HELP HER IN ORDER TO PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THANK YOU, CHIEF.

YES, SIR.

UM, UH, AND THANK YOU, MS. STELLA GARZA FOR BEING HERE IS, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE BUDGET, UH, ON THAT VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR POSITION, BUT, UH, I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR FIRST CUSTOMERS, CHIEF, JUST REAL QUICK ON, UH, GENDER ITEM, NUMBER 14.

UH, TALK ABOUT THE, UH, GRANT FOR THE ENFORCEMENT.

UM, WOULD THAT BE OVERTIME OR WOULD THAT BE REGULAR? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

IT WOULD PREDOMINANTLY BE OVER TIME.

WE ACTUALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT TO OUR STAFF TO ALWAYS BE OVERTIME.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHORTCHANGE OUR NORMAL ENFORCEMENT HOURS OF THE WEEK.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE OFFICERS COME IN.

THIS GRANT IS DESIGNED AND IT WANTS TO PAY OFFICERS OVERTIME SO THAT YOU'RE NOT SHORTCHANGING YOUR REGULAR PATROL SHIFTS.

THE ONLY GIVE ONE CAVEAT TO THAT IF AN OFFICER SIGNS UP TO WORK THIS OVERTIME ASSIGNMENT ON A PARTICULAR SATURDAY, AND FOR SOME REASON, MAYBE THEY'RE SICK DURING THE WEEK OR THEIR NORMAL HOURS, AREN'T WORKED THEIR SHIFT HOURS.

AREN'T WORKED FOR SOME OTHER EMERGENCY, SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCE.

IT COULD BE THAT THEY ONLY RECEIVE THEIR REGULAR WAGES BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T YET ACHIEVED THE RIGHT NUMBER OF HOURS TO GET IT.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET PAID AT WHATEVER THEIR LAWFUL HOURLY RATE IS.

OUR PLAN IS THE GRANT'S PLAN IS, IS IT'S.

THIS IS ALL OVER TIME AND THAT'S HOW THEY FUND IT.

THEY FUND IT AT THE OVERTIME RATE.

THAT'S GREAT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE KEEPING UP, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR THE OFFICERS THAT WANNA, YOU KNOW, MAKE A LITTLE EXTRA, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR OFF TIME IS GREAT.

SO, UH, JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN, TO BE AS RIGOROUS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR BRINGING THIS FAN ALSO, UM, HARDEN BRINGING THIS HOARD, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OPENING UP THE STATE'S OPENING UP WITH A MANDATE SO FORTH, IS IT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF HEAVY TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THIS HOLIDAY.

SO THIS WILL BE KIND OF PERFECT TIMING AS WELL, UH, FOR THIS TO GO THROUGH, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE GRANTS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT FOR HOLIDAY SEASON.

YEARS FROM NOW, NO MATTER WHAT, UM, I DON'T WANT THIS GRANT AND WAITING ON AN ANSWER TO NECESSARILY CAUSE YOU ANY DELAY ON HIRING THAT SECOND POSITION, MEANING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS MONTH, NEXT MONTH REALLY STARTING OUR BUDGETING PROCESS.

UH, MY ONLY COMMENT WAS TO SAY, AS IT RELATES TO THE VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR POSITION, I THINK THAT'S BEEN A POSITION THAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, THANKS TO YOUR HELP, UH, BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND CERTAINLY THE DEMAND, UH, I CAN IMAGINE FROM 18 MONTHS AGO TO TODAY HAS DOUBLED TRIPLED.

I'M ACTUALLY FROM, UM, 2016 TO 2020, IT HAS DOUBLED, UM, AND IT'S JUST CONTINUOUSLY INCREASING FROM JANUARY 1ST UNTIL THE END OF MARCH.

I'M CURRENTLY AT 98 VICTIMS, UM, JUST FOR THE FIRST QUARTER.

SO REALISTICALLY, IF YOU TIMES THAT TIMES FOUR, I'M GOING TO BE OVER 400 FOR THE YEAR.

SO, SO MY THOUGHT IS TO JUST TO SAY THAT, UNLESS COUNSEL HAS ANOTHER THOUGHT HERE IS TO KIND OF LET SCOTT KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED FUNDED IN THE BUDGET, REGARDLESS SINCE WE'RE KIND OF COMMITTING TO FUND IT FOR TWO

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SO I THINK IT WOULD PROBABLY BEHOOVE US TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN THE PLUS CATEGORY FOR THAT BUDGET.

UH, JUST SO YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ASSURANCE.

I FEEL CONFIDENT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE GRANT, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS WITH THESE GRANTS IN THE PAST AND THEY'VE PROVEN TO BRING ON GREAT STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN HELPFUL TO US.

UM, BUT THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF POSITION I THINK IS, SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED.

SO I'M GLAD YOU HAVE A GRANT, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THAT.

THE GRANT MAY NOT HAPPEN.

I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST MARCH FORWARD ON THIS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTARY ON WHAT I JUST SAID? NO.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT IN THERE.

UM, AND AS FAR AS THE HOURS GO IS, IS THIS WOULD BE LIKE A 24 HOUR, UM, CALL POSITION AS WELL.

I WOULD PROBABLY KIND OF SWITCH OFF BECAUSE TECHNICALLY I'M NOT ON CALL.

I DON'T RECEIVE ON-CALL PAY.

UM, BUT I AM ON CALL 24 HOURS.

IF I GET A CALL AND CAN RESPOND, I'LL RESPOND AND TRY TO FLEX OUT TIME.

UM, BUT YEAH, I ALWAYS HAVE, YEAH, THAT BRINGS A GOOD POINT, MAYOR.

YEAH, WE NEED TO PUT IN THE BUDGET AND START LOOKING AT THAT, UH, CUSTOMER ELLISON.

UH, CERTAINLY I APPRECIATE, UH, CHIEF AND, UH, 200 GRAND AND, UM, UH, THE EXPLANATIONS AS WELL ON THIS.

SO A LITTLE BACK HISTORY HERE.

SO THIS WAS, UH, UH, A POSITION THAT, UH, I PROPOSED TO IN THE 11TH HOUR OF OUR BUDGET SEASON LAST YEAR.

UH, AND I APPRECIATE IT COUNCIL SUPPORT ON, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH IT LARGELY BECAUSE IT BEING IN 11TH HOUR AND I KNOW NONE OF US LIKED THOSE CHANGES THERE, BUT IT, IT WASN'T SOMETHING TO COMMIT TO THE BUDGET.

SO THAT WAS, UH, THE APPROACH WE USE DAN, BUT I CERTAINLY CONCUR WITH THE COMMENTS BY THE MAYOR THAT GOING FORWARD, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND SET THAT EXPECTATION FOR, UM, THAT DEPARTMENT AND THAT STAFF TO KNOW THAT BEYOND THE GRANT.

AND I AGREE WE WOULD MOST LIKELY WILL GET IT.

AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE FIRST VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR POSITION WAS IT WAS GRANT FUNDED AND THEN ROLLED INTO A FULL-TIME POSITION THAT THE COUNCIL, UH, SUPPORTED, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE BUDGET.

UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT APPROACH.

WHY WAIT, UH, UNTIL, I GUESS NEXT YEAR, UH, WHAT HAVE YOU, ONCE THE GRANT WOULD RUN OUT, UH, TO DO THAT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF CERTAINLY MOVING THIS FORWARD IS SOMETHING WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE, UH, UM, WE'RE PROMOTING AND TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE BOND FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, UH, IS INCREASED, UM, VICTIM SERVICES, UH, PROGRAMS AND, AND RESOURCES, AND THAT, THAT STARTS WITH THE PERSONNEL.

AND CERTAINLY WE ONLY HAVE ONE IN THAT POSITION RIGHT NOW, AS SHE JUST STATED, SHE'S NOT PAID FOR ON CALL, BUT SHE'S ON CALL THAT THAT'S TOUGH.

I DON'T LIKE HEARING THAT PERSONALLY.

UM, SO W WE NEED TO BACK IT UP WITH SUPPORT AS WELL.

AND SO I COMPLETELY CONCUR WITH THAT, BUT I APPRECIATE, UM, STAFF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GRANT, UH, THAT WE, UH, REQUESTED LASH IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, KELLY.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION MAYOR LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 15 SECOND, THAT'S BEEN MOVED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BRADSHAW THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBER 10 THROUGH 15.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

UP, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.

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(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of assigning original zoning to approximately 66.245 acres of land from Agriculture 'AG' to Warehouse District 'W' for property located at 24801 IH-35, in Hays County, Texas. (FM 158 Land LTD - Z-21-0071) ~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the request.

Public Hearing

]

FIRST READING, UH, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ASSIGNING ORIGINAL ZONING TO APPROXIMATELY 66.245 ACRES OF LAND FROM AG TO WAREHOUSE OR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 24 EIGHT OH ONE I 35 AND HAYES COUNTY.

UH, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION SIX TO ZERO HAS AND DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO MR. KOONTZ, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, CERTAINLY THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS HOWARD COLLINS.

I'M THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

UM, AS YOU STATED, THIS IS A REQUEST FROM, UM, RICK COLEMAN TO, AND HIS BUSINESS INTERESTS TO REZONE SOME LAND THAT SURROUNDS THE FORMER RACETRACK PROPERTY.

UM, EXCUSE ME FOR LOOKING AT MY COMPUTER SCREEN.

UM, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO HERE IS, UH, ACTUALLY SHARE MY SCREEN.

SO YOU GUYS CAN GET A LOOK AT THIS AS WELL.

UM, THERE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT NOW.

UM, THE HIGHLIGHTED PROPERTY IS, UH, HERE IN YELLOW, UH, IS JUST TO THE WEST.

THERE IS ADJOINING PROPERTY, UM, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH THIS

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THAT HAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY BEEN REZONED TO WAREHOUSE, WHICH WOULD BE THE RACETRACK PROPERTY ITSELF AND THE ACREAGE THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE RACETRACK PROPERTY.

THIS CROSS HATCHET HAIRY HERE IS PROPOSED TO BE ADDED TO THAT.

SO THE ENTIRETY OF THIS AREA WOULD ALL BE COMMONLY ZONED AT WAREHOUSE.

UM, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT YOU WANTED A, UM, CONSISTENT ZONING BETWEEN MULTIPLE PARCELS THAT HE OPERATES AND OWNS NOW, UM, FOR THE SAKE OF BEING ABLE TO ATTRACT BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY TO THESE PARCELS.

SO EXCUSE THE TRAIN GOING BY OUTSIDE, UM, THE, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS IS A, UM, UH, RECOMMENDED ZONING AND, UH, PNC AT THEIR MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO NOW, UM, VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT THE ZONING AS THE STAFF.

THANK YOU, MR. COONS.

UH, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW SEEING NONE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COONS OR COMMENTS MOTIONS? MY THOUGHTS IS THAT BASE BASED ON THE LOCATION WAREHOUSES APPROPRIATE.

I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON THIS ONE.

I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16, SECOND, OR IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNSELOR RIZZO, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR BRADSHAW.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION MAYOR PRO TEM, ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

FIRST READING, UH, AN ORDINANCE, UH, UH, THAT WAS PASSED SEVEN ZERO.

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.

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(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 14.08 acres of land from Single Family-1 'R-1' to Townhome District 'R-1-T' for property located at the north corner of Live Oak Street and St. Anthony's Drive, in Hays County, Texas. (WS Live Oak Kyle, LLC - Z-21-0072) ~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-1 to recommend approval of the request.

Public Hearing

]

ANY OBJECTION TO IT BEING FINALLY PASSED NEGATIVE, SEEING NONE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE AFTER HOWARD? YES, SIR.

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.

FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 14.08 ACRES OF LAND FROM SINGLE FAMILY OR ONE TO A TOWNHOME DISTRICT.

OUR WARRANTY FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTH CORNER OF LIVE OAK STREET AND ST.

ANTHONY'S DRIVE IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.

UH, THIS WAS FIVE TO ONE APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, MR. COONS, YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OFF THE TOP? ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WE'VE PUBLISHED FOR SOME TIME NOW, AS WELL AS, UM, NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WASTEWATER SERVICE IN THIS AREA, AS IT TRAVELS TO THE RIGHT TO THE EAST ON THIS MAP, OVER TOWARDS EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE NEAR, UM, UH, BURLESON STREET.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN.

UM, AS YOU STATED EARLIER, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF KYLE HAS SEEN IN THE PAST.

UM, I HAVE BEEN IN THIS ROLE WHEN THIS APPLICATION WAS MADE BY A DIFFERENT ENTITY.

UM, THIS TIME IT IS FOR 14.1 ACRES.

SO THE PARCEL IN QUESTION HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND IT IS TO THEM, THIS TO, UM, R ONE T R ONE T ONLY HAS ONE ALLOWABLE LAND USE.

UM, AND THAT'S FOR TOWNHOMES AND THE CITY OF KYLE DEFINES A TOWNHOME AS FOUR OR MORE DWELLING UNITS, UH, WITHIN THE SAME STRUCTURE.

UM, AND, UH, SO THESE, THESE WOULD BE NOT TRY BUNCHES.

UH, THEY WOULD NOT BE DUPLEXES.

THEY WOULD BE FOUR OR MORE UNITS, UM, SINGLE FAMILY STYLE ATTACHED UNITS IN THE SAME STRUCTURE.

UM, THE EXISTING ZONING, YOU CAN SEE, UM, SILVERADO NEIGHBORHOOD BEER, UH, ADJACENT, AND THEN, UM, RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UH, BUT THE GOLD OUTLINE WHEN THE YELLOW ZONING, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS OUR ONE T HERE, CONDITIONALLY, UH, AND TYPICALLY CONDITIONALLY.

UH, WHAT WE LOOK AT ARE THINGS LIKE WATER, WASTEWATER SERVICE AND THE EXISTING TRANSPORTATION NETWORK NEARBY.

UH, THERE WOULD BE AN EXPECTATION THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE CONNECTION FROM, I BELIEVE THIS IS CALLED MONTERA OR MONTERO DRIVE.

THIS STUB THAT WAS PUT IN, UM, THIS WOULD BE CONNECTED THROUGH THE SITE AND ULTIMATELY WOULD CONNECT WITH, UM, UH, THE, UM, IT'S JUST WENT OUT OF MY HEAD.

IS IT IT'S NOT RANGER DRIVE IT'S, UM, IN FRONT OF, UH, GREG CLARK PARK THAT SEPARATES GREG CLARK FROM THE POST OFFICE.

ANYWAY, MY, MY CURSOR'S DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW, ULTIMATELY, UM, THIS CONNECTION OVER HERE MONTERA WOULD, WOULD MAKE ITS WAY THROUGH AS THESE PARCELS IN BETWEEN DEVELOP AND WOULD CREATE A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION HERE, UM, AT, AT THEM ONE 50 WEST.

SO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM PMC WAS FIVE TO ONE IN FAVOR OF MAKING THIS, UH, THE HIGHER DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, UH, 10 UNITS TO THE ACRE, SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, UH, OUR WARRANTY STAFF SIMILARLY SUPPORTS THAT, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN LIKELY REQUIREMENTS MADE TO THE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK PURSUANT TO OUR, UM, FUTURE TRANSPORTATION PLAN MAP

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SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? LET ME MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, IS JUST AS CREDIBLE AS SAYING THAT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BE, UH, DISCHARGED INTO THE NEW PROPERTY AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. COONS, UM, UH, DECIDING DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO LET'S GO INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST, THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME COMMENTARY, UNLESS THERE WERE OBJECTIONS TO THAT.

UM, SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO GO AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS NOW CLOSED CUSTOMER BRADSHAW.

YEAH, HOWARD.

I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, UM, AS I WAS READING THROUGH THE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION AND, UH, SOME EMAILS THAT I, THE MAIN COMPLAINTS THAT I GOT, YOU ACTUALLY ADDRESS THEM BOTH, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ELABORATE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE REGARDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE TRAFFIC.

AND I ACTUALLY DROVE THROUGH THERE A FEW TIMES AT VARIOUS DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

AND REALLY, I ONLY NOTICED HEAVY TRAFFIC DURING, UM, SCHOOL SCHOOL, THE, YOU KNOW, GOING TO AND LEAVING OF, UM, SCHOOL HOURS.

SO CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON, YOU SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE TRANSPORTATION CHANGES.

WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE? I ABSOLUTELY CAN.

HANG ON ONE SECOND HERE.

I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN.

UM, WHAT I'VE GOT IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, IS A CUTOUT.

THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE CITY OF KYLE'S, UM, FUTURE TRANSPORTATION MAP AND WHAT WE HAVE SPELLED OUT IN, UM, AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT TO OUR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION MAP WAS A CONNECTION FROM, UH, YES, GREG DRIVE WAS THE NAME THAT HE NEEDED ME.

AND, UM, THIS IS WELL, IT'S LISTED THERE AS SAN PHILIPPE, BUT I THINK THAT'S AN ERROR BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS STUB THAT COMES OFF OF SANFILIPPO ACTUALLY IS ALREADY NAMED, IT'S ALREADY PLANTED.

AND I BELIEVE IT'S EITHER MONTERA OR MON MONTERO.

UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, BUT THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT THERE WILL BE A CONNECTION FROM THE SILVERADO NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY GO OVER AND CONNECT TO AN FM ONE 50 WEST.

SO THIS, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS RIGHT HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS AS WELL AS THE POLE OF THE FLAG LOT COMES DOWN AND, UM, NEARLY PUNCHES THE STREET THAT'S DOWN HERE, THE LIVE OAK STREET.

SO, UM, AS TO TRAFFIC, UH, I WOULD EXPECT THAT YES, THERE WOULD BE QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA AT SCHOOL TIME, AS WE'VE GOT A MIDDLE SCHOOL OVER HERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS MAP, AND WE'VE GOT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NEARLY IN THE CENTER, PART OF THE MAP, UM, COINCIDENTALLY, BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS ARE, IT SHOULD BE WITHIN COMFORTABLE WALKING DISTANCE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS WELL.

UM, THERE IS A CROSSWALK THAT HAS BEEN ADDED AT GREAT DRIVE TO GET YOU FROM THE WEST SIDE TO THE EAST SIDE OF GREGG FOR THE RESIDENCES THAT ARE ON THIS SIDE.

SO, UM, I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY IT'S A LOCK THAT, UM, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM THIS SITE WOULD BE A FUNCTION OF THE SCHOOL ACTIVITIES THEMSELVES.

IF YOU CAN GET IN YOUR CAR AND DRIVE YOUR CHILD TO SCHOOL, THEN YOU CAN ALSO CONCEIVABLY WALK THEM TO SCHOOL.

UM, UH, ANOTHER REASON WHY THE STAFF FOUND THAT CONDITIONALLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO OUR DOWNTOWN, TO THE SCHOOL SITES, TO THE POST OFFICE, TO THE PARK, TO THE CITY'S, UH, COMMUNITY POOL AND SOME RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL THAT ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN.

AS FAR AS, UM, WATER AND WASTEWATER, WE ARE AWARE, UM, THAT MORE THAN LIKELY THERE ARE, UM, DEFICIENT CONDITIONS FOR THE INSTITUTION OF THE LUVS, THE LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENT OF WHAT WOULD BE DISCHARGED INTO THE LINE.

THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE SUBJECT.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, UPDATES THAT WERE MADE, UH, ALONG, UH, BURLESON STREET THAT MOVED TO THE EAST AND CONTINUE THEIR WAY OVER TOWARDS, UM, THE TREATMENT PLANT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY.

SO THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE NECESSARY, UH, FOR ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES PRIOR TO BEING ABLE TO GET CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE HOMES THAT ARE BACK HERE.

UM, THAT WOULD BE AN IMPACT THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY BORN BY THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE UPGRADING OF THOSE LINES WOULD BE DIRECTLY A FUNCTION OF THE IMPOSITION OF THE NEW HOMES.

SO, UM, WE, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM, SOME MEANS FOR THE CITY TO WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN OUR ALREADY EXISTING, UM, IMPACT FEES AND, AND, UM, OTHER FEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE AND THE NECESSARY SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR WASTEWATER.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD BE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS, NOT NECESSARILY JUST THOSE FOR THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AS IT SHOWS UP, UM, AND COULD END UP BEING TO THE BENEFIT OF THE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING TODAY.

SO THE, THE EXPECTATION THAT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO DISPLACE TRAFFIC INTO

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SO IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE LITERALLY A TWO-WAY STREET.

THANK YOU, KATURAH IS AN HOUR.

UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE IMPROVEMENT ON THAT WASTEWATER LINE.

I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, SORELY NEEDED IN THAT AREA AND FOR THE DEVELOPER TO TAKE THAT ON.

AND IT'S GREAT.

UM, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO LOOK AT IS ALSO THE, UH, FLOOD MITIGATION THERE ST.

ANTHONY'S HAS A LITTLE BIT OF THE CHURCH.

THERE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF FLOOD, UH, ISSUES DUE TO THAT PROPERTY.

THERE'LL BE SOME UPGRADES ON THE FLOOD MITIGATION THERE AS WELL.

MY EXPECTATION BOTH GENERALLY AND SPECIFICALLY IS THAT, UM, STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT NEVER OCCURS UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPS, UM, THAT'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS PROPERTY.

UM, THEIR WATER STORMWATER THAT THEY GENERATE FROM THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES WILL BE REQUIRED FOR ANY NUMBER OF LEVELS OF LAW, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL LAW, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DISCHARGE THAT STORMWATER OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY ANY FASTER THAN THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT RATE.

SO, BECAUSE THIS SITE IS COMPLETELY GREEN, THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT ON IT.

UM, EVERYTHING THAT THEY BUILD ON THE SITE WILL HAVE TO BE DETAINED, SO IT WOULD BE COLLECTED IN THE POND AND THEN RELEASED, UM, AT A SLOWER RATE THAN YOU WOULD GET IN A POST-DEVELOPMENT CONDITION.

SO NOTHING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, UM, IS GOING TO EXACERBATE ANY EXISTING CONDITIONS.

THAT'S DEFINITELY WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT AREA, WITH THE FLOODING THAT'S OCCURRING THERE RIGHT NOW.

SO TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT AND RELEASE IT SLOWER IS JUST A PLUS FOR EVERYBODY DOWNSTREAM FROM THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.

SO I, I I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

UH, I KNOW WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF LETTERS UP POSITION ABOUT TRAFFIC.

I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED THAT.

I KNOW SOME SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THE WILDLIFE.

UH, I DON'T THINK THE WILDLIFE IS GOING TO GO AWAY.

UM, SOME, I THINK THEY'LL STILL BE AROUND IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF BIRDS, I THINK, UH, JUST SOME SMALL ANIMALS, UH, BUT THEY, THEY TEND TO STICK AROUND.

I PROMISE YOU IF YOU ASK SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA, THEY STILL HAVE THOSE VISITORS, SO THANK YOU.

UH, CUSTOMER RIZZO, CUSTOMER FLORES, KALE.

UM, I GOT THE SAME EMAIL AS EVERYBODY ELSE, AND I THINK I LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WAY.

UM, THE CONCERN FROM THE RESIDENT WAS THE, BETWEEN CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND THE PRESENTATION AT P AND Z, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, THE CHANGE WAS REQUESTED BY THE DEVELOPER TO RECOVER HIS COSTS BY INCREASING THE HOUSING DENSITY, BECAUSE THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS PAID BY THE DEVELOPER.

THIS INCLUDES WASTEWATER HANDLING SURFACE WATER, RUNOFF CONTROL, AND ADDITIONAL INTERNAL STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE CITY REQUIRING THE DEVELOPER TO PAY FOR THESE UPGRADES WAS THE MAIN DRIVING ISSUE FOR THIS ZONING UPGRADE TO OUR WARRANTY.

SO, ALTHOUGH I DO AGREE THAT THE DEVELOPERS AGREEING TO TAKE IT ON AND IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T INCREASE, THE DENSITY IS COMMENDABLE.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS THAT SITUATION.

ADDITIONALLY, I AM IN FEAR OF THE GREEN BEING GONE ON THAT SIDE, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACILITY MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE IT ON THAT SIDE.

THERE MIGHT BE ONE LITTLE SPACE, BUT IT'S GETTING TO BE LESS AND LESS.

AND THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS HIGHLY DENSE AS IT IS.

SO I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE ARE GIVING UP THIS GREEN SPACE, IT IS FOR SOMETHING THAT IS MORE THAN JUST A NEED IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO ACCEPT AND BE WILLING TO AGREE ON.

AND, AND I I'VE BEEN IN THAT AREA AND I KNOW THE TRAFFIC IS BAD.

UM, SO FOR THAT, I, I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO VOTE.

AND WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF INQUIRIES, UH, CONSERVATIVELY, I'D SAY FIVE PEOPLE HAVE COME TO ME IN THE PAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS WANTING TO KNOW WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THEM.

WHEN THERE'S LESS GREEN.

AND THEN I FEEL, UM, MAYBE THE DEVELOPER IS KIND OF TACKING ON, UM, THOSE EXTRA, UM, WASTEWATER SUGGESTIONS OR NOT SUGGESTIONS, BUT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE PUT ON THERE BY JUST INCREASING THE DENSITY IN THAT AREA.

UM, I MEAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I EXACTLY APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE, UM, OF, OF THE OBJECTION.

I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE THEATER IN WHICH THEY'RE SPEAKING, UM, THE, THE CITY OF KYLE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PERMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY UNTIL WE CAN ASSURE, UM, THE EVENTUAL INHABITANTS, THE BUYERS, UH, THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE WASTEWATER SERVICE.

AND IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW THAT ADDING ANY NUMBER OF, UH, NEW DWELLING UNITS OVER HERE, UH, CONSISTENT WITH, UH, DENSITY OF EITHER SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED OR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, UM, WOULD BE, WOULD BE MORE THAN THE SYSTEM WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE.

SO FOR THAT REASON, WE HAVE TOLD, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, THIS, THIS, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN MARKETED

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AND WE'VE TOLD THEM OF THE CHALLENGES ON THE SITE AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL NEED TO BE MADE BEFORE WE'D BE ABLE TO LET THEM MOVE FORWARD.

SO, UM, IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I DON'T HAVE THE PROFORMA.

I DON'T HAVE THE LIST OF PROFIT AND LOSSES, UM, OF THE DEVELOPER THAT HAS COME FORWARD AND WAS ASKING FOR THIS REQUEST.

BUT I CAN IMAGINE THAT, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, TO INSTALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY WOULD TACK ON AN APPRECIABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO EVERY NEW HOME THAT THEY EVENTUALLY MARKET.

UM, THEY MAY VERY WELL PRICED THEMSELVES OUT OF A MARKET BECAUSE OF THE SURCHARGES REQUIRED TO MAKE THE PROJECT WORK.

THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO IMMORTALIZE THOSE COSTS AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE TO EVENTUAL BUYERS IF THEY CAN, UM, SPREAD THAT COST OUT OVER ADDITIONAL UNITS.

SO THE STAFF AT THE CITY OF KYLE DID NOT REQUIRE THEM TO INCREASE DENSITY TO MAKE THIS WORK.

THEY PROBABLY RIGHTFULLY SAW THAT THE, UM, ECONOMIES OF SCALE WERE ON THEIR SIDE IF THEY JUST HAD MORE UNITS AND LESS OF A SURCHARGE PER UNIT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD RECOUP THEIR DEVELOPMENT COSTS.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THEY TALKED WITH US ABOUT AN INCREASE IN DENSITY AND IN THE PAST AND STILL TODAY, UM, THE STAFF HAS BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY WOULD MAKE THIS HIGHER DENSITY BECAUSE IT IS CLOSE TO OUR DOWNTOWN.

UM, IT IS CLOSE TO AREAS THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO, UH, WORK ON AND IMPROVE THERE, OUR EXISTING AMENITIES AROUND, UM, AND WE'RE, WE'RE AT NOT FOR THE DEFICIENCIES OF AN, UH, WASTEWATER SYSTEM THAT WAS INSTALLED DECADES AGO AND PROBABLY NEVER ANTICIPATED THIS MUCH USE.

UM, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET STARTED PROBABLY EARLIER THAN WE HAVE TODAY.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE HESITANCY FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK OUT AND SEE THIS PASTURE FOR DECADES AND WANT IT TO NOT GO AWAY.

BUT IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE EXISTING ZONING THAT TODAY, THE SUBJECT SITE IS, IS THIS GOLD BOUNDARY.

AND, UH, NEXT TO THAT ARE TWO ADDITIONAL LOTS THAT ARE ALSO ZONED, BUT ARE ONE, THIS HAS 50 FOOT, LOTS, UH, 5,000 SQUARE FEET OBESE, UM, AND ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY WE'VE HAD TODAY.

THAT ALSO HASN'T BEEN BUILT HERE BECAUSE MUCH FOR THE SAME REASON.

UM, IT'S A SMALLER PIECE OF LAND, EVEN IF YOU WERE TO ASSEMBLE ALL THREE OF THESE LOTS TOGETHER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, UM, ABSORB THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NOW TO THE, TO THE ADJACENT TO THE NORTH, TO THE NORTHEAST SILVERADO IS MUCH LARGER.

THEY HAD TO INSTALL BRAND NEW WASTEWATER SERVICE BECAUSE THAT WAS A GREENFIELD WHEN THEY GOT THERE, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO IMMORTALIZE THOSE POTS ACROSS ALL THOSE LOTS.

AND THE CHARGE WAS PROBABLY MORE PALATABLE TO THE BUYERS, THIS BEING A SMALLER PIECE OF LAND, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET MORE CREATIVE.

THEY'RE ALSO ADJACENT ALREADY TO SOME EXISTING R ONE T, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN BUILT YET.

UM, BUT, UH, IS, IS ZONED APPROPRIATELY.

IT HAS THE ZONING ENTITLEMENT, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS, UM, THAT LIVE OAK AND POCKET HIM AND GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO AT THEM ONE 50 ALREADY.

SO THIS, UH, REQUEST FOR OUR WARRANTY IS SOMEWHAT OF A BUFFER AND DENSITY, UH, BETWEEN WHAT YOU'VE GOT DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH, THE HIGH TRAFFIC TXDOT CORRIDOR TO THE WEST.

AND THEN THE, WHAT IS, WHAT IS HONESTLY BY ANY MEASURE, LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH AND THE NORTHEAST.

SO WHAT ROAD WOULD THEY BE USING TO GET AN OUT OF, OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UM, RIGHT NOW THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE, UM, THEY HAVE, MONTERA HERE TO THE NORTHEAST AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET A CONNECTION FROM OUR, UH, FROM THE PARCEL ONTO LIBO, WHICH WOULD A DAYLIGHT, UM, ON THE, ON THE SOUTHEAST.

EVENTUALLY THERE'LL BE A CONNECTION THAT WILL COME THROUGH AND EVENTUALLY GET THE QUARTER, UH, OVER HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS, WHICH WOULD GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO GO TO GO NORTHLAND I ONE 50 FROM THERE, BUT I DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME FOR WHEN THAT MIGHT BE BUILT.

SO THERE'S CURRENTLY NONE.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO NOT A TIMEFRAME.

WELL THERE'S SO, SO CURRENTLY IT WOULD BE THE CONNECTION TO THIS MONTERA BEER, WHICH IS ON THEIR NORTHEAST PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THEY, THEY HAVE FRONTAGE ALONG LIVE OAK RIGHT HERE AT THE DOGLEG AND ST.

ANTHONY'S AND LIVE OAK.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S TWO PLACES WHERE THEY TOUCH EXISTING RIGHT AWAY TODAY.

SO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WILL PROBABLY CONNECT TO THOSE TWO PLACES, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, HOWEVER, WILL BE BUILT WITH SNUBS TO THE SOUTHWEST FOR THAT EVENTUAL CONNECTION OF MONTERA, AS IT GOES THROUGH THE SITE, HEADED TOWARDS GREGG DRIVE TO THE WEST.

I DON'T HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR WHEN THAT CONNECTION TO THE SOUTHWEST WILL BE.

SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE IT AT SAN PHILIPPE DRIVE RIGHT THERE INTO THE, IS THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S GOING TO GO INTO?

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AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE AT THAT CORNER ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ST.

ANTHONY'S.

SO I DON'T KNOW DISTANCE, BUT I DO KNOW THERE'S NOT MUCH ROOM IN THERE BEFORE THAT CURVE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW SAFE THAT WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND OFF OF THAT ROAD.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS CAUSE FOR ALISON, THANK YOU.

UM, I SECOND, SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, I JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, OUR RESIDENTS FOR REACHING OUT TO US.

AND CERTAINLY EVEN IF IT'S IN DISSENT OF SOMETHING THAT ULTIMATELY IS IMPROVED, IT, IT IS REFRESHING TO GET THE EMAILS AND, AND, AND COMMENTS OF OUR CITIZENRY.

UM, I TOO REMEMBER THIS HOWARD, I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING WHEN THIS FIRST CAME THROUGH, UH, AND I DID A VOTE TO APPROVE IT, UH, AS A RECOMMENDATION, AS A COMMISSIONER AT THAT TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE TRAFFIC.

THAT'S A CONCERN EVERYWHERE THAT WE, UM, HAVE A REZONING, PARTICULARLY, UH, UH, I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE ADDED WOOD, COMMERCIAL REZONING TO NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL.

UH, WE HAVE ONE, UH, THE AREA OVER ON DAISEY AND, UH, UH, BB, UH, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, WE ADDED ON ONE 50, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AREAS, SO IT DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT CONCERN THERE.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IF CERTAINLY IT'S, IT'S, UH, ZONED R ONE, SO IT COULD BE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES RIGHT NOW, IF THE OWNER WANTED TO DO THAT, RIGHT.

THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING THEM FROM MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, WHICH WOULD BE THE SAME INGRESS EGRESS POINTS, UH, THERE JUST BEFORE SANFORD LEE BAY AND LIVE OAK.

AND AM I INCORRECT IN THOSE STATEMENTS, HOWARD? OH, IT'S, IT'S IT'S ZONING ENTITLED TODAY FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

UH, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION.

SO IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S TOWNHOMES OR WHETHER IT'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THAT, THOSE SAME CONCERNS.

SO BUY, RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THEY COULD DEVELOP THERE AND, AND DO THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

UM, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF GOOD POINTS THAT WERE MADE, UH, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO MAKE SOME CLARITY AS WELL ON THOSE POINTS THAT WERE MADE TO US.

UH, SOUNDS LIKE TO ALL OF US, UM, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. SELLERS, UH, AS THE CITY MANAGER, HAS THERE EVER BEEN AN OFFICIAL POLICY, UH, FOR, UH, QUOTE UNQUOTE PRO GROWTH? HAS THERE EVER BEEN AN OFFICIAL CITY POLICY THAT HE'S OUTSIDE HIS HOUSE? OH, SORRY.

MY APOLOGIES.

HE'S COMING UP.

SO TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN RIGHT.

UH, PEOPLE WITH PROPERTY, UM, CHOOSE TO SELL IT OR DEVELOP IT, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR CORE.

THEY HAD THAT, THAT PROPERTY RIGHT.

TO DO THAT.

UH, AND SO THE, THE CITY RESPONDS TO THOSE, UH, REQUESTS BY PROPERTY OWNERS OR POTENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT MAY WANT TO BUY A PROPERTY AS LONG AS THEY GET THE REZONING.

SO WE S WE SEE THAT ALL THE TIME.

I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A, UH, MAKE A POINT TO, UH, AS WELL.

SO THESE WOULD BE TOWNHOMES.

CERTAINLY.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE FROM APARTMENTS, HOWARD.

YOU, WE, YOU AND I, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

YOU WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF, UH, DIFFERENCE ON D TOWNHOMES AND APARTMENTS.

THE EASIEST WAY FOR ME TO DESCRIBE IT AS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOTEL AND MOTEL HOTELS, UH, BASICALLY ARE BUILDINGS WHERE EVERYBODY ENTERS THROUGH A COMMON AREA, WAY.

YOU GO INTO A LOBBY, AND THEN YOU ENTER YOUR DOMICILE FOR THE EVENING, FROM A COMMON HALLWAY.

THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE THE SAME AS MULTI-FAMILY MOTELS.

HOWEVER, USUALLY ARE WHERE YOU PARK IN THE PARKING LOT.

THEN YOU GET OUT AND YOU WALK TO A, YOU KNOW, A ONE STORY OR MAYBE A TWO STORY, AND YOU GO FROM THE OUTSIDE SPACES RIGHT INTO YOUR SPACE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR COMMON AREA TO GET TO WHAT IT IS THAT YOU OWN, OR, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF A MOTEL RENT, THAT WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY ATTENDANCE.

THAT WOULD BE A TOWNHOME TOWNHOMES, UM, ARE NOT STACKED, MEANING YOU WILL NOT HAVE A SEPARATE DWELLING UNIT ABOVE OR BELOW YOU.

UM, THEY'RE ALL THE SAME, THE SAME LEVEL, UH, ON A, ON A VERTICAL STANDPOINT, UM, THEY, THEY DO NEED TO BE ATTACHED.

THERE NEEDS TO BE FOUR OR MORE OF THEM PER UNIT.

THEY CAN TYPICALLY BE MULTI-STORY, UM, THEY CAN HAVE INTERIOR PARKING, OR THEY CAN HAVE, UH, EXTERIOR ON-SITE PARKING, OR THEY CAN HAVE A COMMON PARKING LOT, UM, WHERE THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO BE IN A STRUCTURE.

BUT, BUT GENERALLY IT'S JUST THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW MUCH OF THE COMMON AREAS YOU SHARE, UM, WITH YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR NEIGHBORS OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.

THANK YOU, HOWARD.

I'LL TAKE, UH, ONE STEP FURTHER TOO.

AND STATE THAT TYPICALLY WITH TOWNHOMES,

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THEY'RE USUALLY OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, WHEREAS A OPPOSED TO A, AN APARTMENT THERE ARE, THERE ARE RENTERS OR LACEY'S THAT, UH, PAY, PAY THE OWNER AND THEY BEAR THE BRUNT OF, UH, UM, HOMEOWNER'S FEES OR, UH, UTILITIES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, SO THAT'S ANOTHER KEY DIFFERENCE THERE AS WELL.

AND TYPICALLY WE'LL HAVE A YARD MAY NOT BE VERY BIG, BUT A YARD IN THE FRONT AND BACK AS WELL.

UH, SOMETIMES ALSO, UM, SO SOME, SOME KEY DIFFERENCES THERE, UM, IN THE OWNERSHIP, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, BALK IT AS APARTMENT DWELLERS, BUT, UH, CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND OWNERSHIP OF A PROPERTY GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT, UH, THERE WOULD BE MORE CARE OF IT.

UH, CERTAINLY IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE WILL BE, THESE COULD STILL BE, UH, UH, TURNED AROUND AND, AND, AND, UH, BY THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THERE'LL BE RENTAL PROPERTIES, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT COULD HAPPEN IN SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE, THE LIKING, HAVING A EMPTY, VACANT FIELD NEXT TO YOU.

THE CITY OF PROUD DOES NOT GET INTO OWNERSHIP ARRANGEMENTS.

WE WERE IN LAND USE BUSINESS AND ADMINISTRATION.

SO, UM, WHAT WE LOOK AT AS IS CHOOSING THIS AS A, AS A LAND USE AND, YOU KNOW, NOT TO EXPAND TOO MUCH, BUT I HAD THIS CONVERSATION EARLIER WITH SOME FOLKS HERE IN CITY HALL.

UM, KYLE MUCH LIKE THE REST OF THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT HAS A DESPERATE NEED TO MAKE UP THE MISSING MIDDLE.

KYLE IS VERY HEAVY ON SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE ARE VERY HEAVY ON MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

AND YET THERE'S NOTHING IN BETWEEN.

THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE TWO ENDS OF THE RESIDENTIAL SPECTRUM, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE MIDDLE FROM, UM, FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT OR FROM AN AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT.

SO, UM, COUNCILMAN ELLISON IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

W WE HAVE MADE CHANGES TO OUR ZONING CODE THAT MAKES THE MINIMUM LOT WITH IN THE 20, 22 FEET, THE, THE NET, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS AND MAKE THAT BLOCK WITH THAT NARROW, UM, IS NOT SO TO INCREASE DENSITY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

WHAT IT DOES IS ALLOW, UM, THE PARTITION WALLS BETWEEN THE DWELLING UNITS, LET YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND AND BELOW, AND YOU CAN PURCHASE A TOWNHOME FEE, SIMPLE, YOU CAN OWN IT, AND YOU CAN OWN THE DIRT UNDERNEATH OF IT.

NOT NECESSARILY JUST OWNING CONDOMINIUM, MEANING WOULD BE AGAINST AREA, THE SPACES WHERE THE SHELL AND THE REST OF THE COMMON AREAS WOULD BE A PART OF THE CONDO.

AND THERE WILL BE A FEE ASSOCIATION.

UM, THERE, THERE IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE THESE, UM, UH, FEE SIMPLE OWNERSHIP AND CLOSE THAT MISSING NOTES.

ABSOLUTELY HOWARD, AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER.

YOU TOOK IT TO MY NEXT POINT RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT BROTHER.

SO, UH, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT SINCE I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL.

UH, THE NEED FOR DIVERSIFIED AND HOUSING, WE HAVE TWO ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM, IT'S APARTMENTS OR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS.

AND, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DIVERSE DEMOGRAPHIC OF FOLKS HERE, AND EVERYBODY IS AT DIFFERENT STAGES OF THEIR LIFE AND, AND MOVING UP THAT HOME OWNERSHIP AND PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, UH, WHICH IS THE WAY TO FINANCIAL STABILITY IN OUR COUNTRY, UH, AND, AND WEALTH.

SO, UH, PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.

AND SO PEOPLE MOVE THROUGHOUT PROGRESSIONS IN LIFE.

AND RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE YOUR APARTMENTS, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW MANY WE HAVE OF THOSE.

AND THEN WE HAVE YOUR SINGLE DEVELOPMENT GOING TO HUMANS, WHERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT VARIOUS STAGES OF THEIR LIVES THAT MAY NOT BE THERE FOR THE HOMEOWNERSHIP THERE, BUT THEY DO WANT MORE OF THE HOME.

THEY WANT A, MORE OF A HOME TYPE DEAL, MAYBE STARTING ON SOME, GETTING SOME EQUITY IN PROPERTY.

UH, IN OUR PAST THAT APARTMENT DWELLING, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT HERE.

AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, UH, HOWARD, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND SINCE I WAS ON P AND Z ABOUT THE NEED FOR THAT DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, AND I SUPPORTED THIS BACK THEN AND I'LL SUPPORT IT NOW.

UM, AND, AND FINAL POINT I'LL MAKE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, NOT SO MUCH RECENTLY, BUT I DO LARGELY BELIEVE IN THE SMART GROWTH PHILOSOPHY, WHICH ONE OF THE PRINCIPLE, UH, PRINCIPLES OF THAT IS YOUR DENSITY IS TOWARDS THE CENTER OF YOUR TOWN.

I KNOW THAT THAT IS A POINT OF FRUSTRATION SOMETIMES, PARTICULARLY, UH, WITH OUR RESIDENTS, UH, IN THE AREA.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT.

TOTALLY.

I UNDERSTAND THE, THE NE UH, THE DESIRE FOR GREEN SPACE AND PARKS.

WE ARE PUMPING A LOT OF MONEY INTO OUR CENTRAL PARK DOWN AIR, UH, DOWNTOWN.

WE ARE AS WELL, THE VOTERS APPROVED FOR AN INVESTMENT AND OUR GREG CLARK PARK, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET EVEN MORE.

SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE, UM, TAKING ALL THAT IN CONSIDERATION.

ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY FIRST POINT OF WHAT, WHAT COULD HAPPEN ON IT RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT EVEN THE COUNCIL, EVEN HAVING A SAY IN IT, UH, ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD HAPPEN, BUT I THINK THIS IS A ONCE AGAIN, AN APPROPRIATE MEASURE, AND I'M SORRY TO KIND OF BELABOR ON THAT, BUT IT, ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I SAW THIS WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER I'M SEEING AGAIN AND AGAIN NOW I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT IT WOULD COME BACK.

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UH, IT, IT CAN BE, UH, VERY PLEASING ON THE EYE, UM, AND WHATNOT, BUT, UH, I THINK THIS IS, UH, I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF ZONING.

AND WE'VE BEEN, UH, REALLY, UH, HAMMERING FOR THAT FOR A WHILE NOW, UH, PARTICULARLY, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR ELLISON.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? I'LL BE NICE.

UM, WELL, I HAVE THOUGHTS TOO, BUT, UM, SO, UH, I WAS HERE ALSO, UH, AND AROUND WHEN THE WAS VOTED AND I'M GOING TO KEEP MY COMMENTARY VERY BRIEF.

UH, NUMBER ONE, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, CAN WE GET THAT MAP BACK UP? UH, A MAP IS FUN TO STARE AT THAT THAT'S OKAY.

THAT, THAT MAP, UH, SPEAKS TO ME BECAUSE I WAS HERE WHEN THE RESIDENTS THAT ONE, NO, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE, IT SPEAKS TO ME FOR A LOT OF REASONS.

NUMBER ONE IS THE, UH, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN SILVERADO, UH, DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT CONNECTION BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE, UH, THAT WOULD INVITE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE MOVING IN TO THIS PROPOSAL LOT TO GO INTO THEIR SUBDIVISION.

WHEN THE REALITY IS THAT THE OPPOSITE, I BELIEVE IS VERY MUCH MORE, THE REALITY A SILVERADO WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS CONNECTION TO LIVE OAK STREET IN SAN DIEGO, UH, ST.

ANTHONY'S DRIVE, UH, MORE SO THAN, UH, THEY WILL, UH, BE PUT ASIDE OR PUT OFF BY PEOPLE IN THE TOWNHOME SUBDIVISION FOR SOME REASON, WANTING TO DRIVE UP INTO SILVERADO, ALTHOUGH THERE WERE NO REAL CONNECTION REASONS FOR THEM TO DO SO.

SO, UM, I CERTAINLY WOULD CONSIDER THIS A FAIR TRADE, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS, UH, NUMBER TWOS INFILL, UH, IN DOWNTOWN IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A YES FOR ME, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, AS CUSTOMER ALISON POINTED OUT, UH, INFILL AND VACANT LOTS DOWNTOWN IS A PRIMARY TENANT TO, UH, FOR, UH, REVITALIZING, REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN AND UPGRADING THOSE OLD PIPES, CLAY PIPES, AND VARIOUS OTHER CHALLENGES.

UH, REDEVELOPMENT INTERIOR MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANY NEW ROADS INSTEAD.

WE CAN UPGRADE EXISTING ROADS THAT CERTAINLY NEED IT.

UH, AND NUMBER THREE IS THAT IT'S NOT GREEN SPACE.

UH, IT IS NOT GREEN SPACE.

THAT IS A VACANT LOT.

UH, JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER VACANT LOT TO GOT THERE FIRST, UH, THEY DON'T OWN THIS LOT.

IT'S NOT A WILDLIFE PRESERVE.

IT'S NOT CONSERVATION.

UH, IT IS, IT IS AS, HAS JUST AS MUCH OF A RIGHT TO DEVELOP AS SILVERADO HAD TO DEVELOP WHEN THEY CAME IN, UH, AND CHOSE TO BUILD THEIR FIRST, UM, UH, AND FRANKLY OUR S OUR STANDARDS HAVE IMPROVED SINCE THEN.

SO MY EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS, UH, OUR WARRANTY WOULD BE BUILT TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN SILVERADO WOULD BE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CASE OF REDUCED OR DIMINISHED PROPERTY VALUES AT ALL.

UH, UH, AND THEN, UH, FINALLY THAT THE, THE PARTICULAR LOT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE HAS GOT FLOODING AND VAGRANCY ISSUES WITH PEOPLE CAMPING OUT, BACK THERE AND DOING ALL KINDS OF OTHER THINGS.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A CITY, YOU HAVE LOTS THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED ON, UH, THAT ARE READY TO BE DEVELOPED, BUT FOR SOME REASON, THEY GET STYMIED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND JUST SIT THERE, FALLOW, UH, WHEN CERTAINLY THE MARKET CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT FOR, UH, THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED.

SO I'M CERTAINLY FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO WHAT I CONSIDERED TO BE RIDING A WRONG, WHICH IS TO VOTE FOR OUR WARRANTY, UH, AND ALLOWING FOR THIS PROJECT TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD OUT.

IT'S SMALL.

YOU CAN'T PUT RESIDENTIAL DETACHED, LIKE A TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT IN THERE BECAUSE OF ITS SIZE.

OUR WARRANTY IS THE PERFECT LAND USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED IN, IN MY OPINION, AND EVENTUALLY WHEN THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES DEVELOP AND THAT THE CONNECTION IS MADE STRAIGHT OUT TO PORTER AND TO REBEL, UH, NOT ONLY WILL THE SILVERADO RESIDENTS BENEFIT BY GETTING TO LIVE OAK SHRIEK, UH, THEY WILL BE USING THAT CONNECTION ALL THE TIME, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

UH, SO ANYWAYS, I FEEL STRONGLY, BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, COUNSELOR FLOOR SCALE.

I WANTED TO SAY, UM, THANKS TO DEX.

UH, HE HAS A LOT OF WISDOM, NOT JUST ON COUNCIL, BUT ALSO KNOWING HE WAS ON P AND Z.

HE ALWAYS MAKES THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR.

UM, AND EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT, I'M NOT IN TOTAL AGREEANCE WITH THIS, MOSTLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE DEVELOPERS CHANGE ZONING IN ORDER TO INCREASE DENSITY IN ORDER TO MAKE UP FOR COSTS.

THAT THAT FOR ME IS A LITTLE BIT TROUBLESOME.

UM, BUT THE WAY HE, MR. ELLISON DESCRIBED IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO VOTE.

UM, AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU TO DEX, I GUESS, FOR EXPLAINING THAT IN A WAY THAT NOT JUST ME, BUT IF I HAVE THESE QUESTIONS, I KNOW THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.

UM, AND SO THANK YOU.

THANKS.

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ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS, MOTIONS, MAYOR LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE COUNCIL CUSTOMER RIZZO SECOND AND BY CUSTOMER TOBIA.

SO WE APPROVE OUR WARRANTY ON THE PROPOSED ZONING.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.

WE WILL HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK FOR A SECOND READING.

NEXT UP AGENDA

[18.

(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of assigning original zoning to approximately 12.9 acres of land from Agriculture 'AG' to Mixed Use District 'MXD' for property located on the northeast corner of Philomena Drive and Bunton Creek Road, in Hays County, Texas. (Estate of Evelyn Franke, et al - Z-21-0074) ~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the request.

Public Hearing

]

ITEM NUMBER 18.

FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE AMENDING 53 ZONING, UH, TO THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ASSIGNING ORIGINAL ZONING TO APPROXIMATELY 12.9 ACRES OF LAND FROM AG TO MXD FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PHILOMENA DRIVE IN BUNTIN CREEK ROAD.

UH, THIS ITEM HAS PUBLIC HEARING WAS, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE P AND Z BY A VOTE OF SIX TO ZERO.

MR. COLLINS, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO ON YOUR SCREEN NOW IS THE NEARLY 13 ACRE PARCEL THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE REZONED.

CURRENTLY IT IS AG.

THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE THIS NXD MXD IS OUR MIXED USE DISTRICT.

THIS IS OUR, UM, UH, HIGHLY URBANIZED DISTRICT THAT THE CITY OF KYLE ENABLED ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, UM, TO THE NORTHEAST TO SETON HOSPITAL.

THIS LOT IS LOCATED WITHIN, UM, OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP TERMS, THE SUPER REGIONAL NODE.

THIS IS THE HIGHEST ACTIVITY DISTRICT THAT THE CITY OF KYLE HAS.

THE CENTER OF THIS DISTRICT IS THE INTERSECTION OF 16, 26 AND HUNDRED 35.

THIS IS SOUTHEAST OF THAT INTERSECTION BY ABOUT MAYBE HALF OR THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE.

UM, HERE'S THE BREAD BASKET.

YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE LABELED BUTTONED CREEK AND DC.

UM, I'M GOING TO MOVE THEM UP A LITTLE BIT AND LOOK AT THE EXISTING ZONING.

SO WE'VE GOT A LARGE UNDEVELOPED TRACT HERE.

UM, THIS IS THE HOSPITAL SITE ZONED HOSPITAL SERVICES.

THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL RS, UH, MARSHALL HERE, AND THIS IS A NATURALLY OCCURRING, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CONSTRUCTION MANUFACTURING DISTRICT THAT GOES UP AND DOWN THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE BUTTON CREEK ROAD.

AND TO A LESSER EXTENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, ONCE YOU MOVE TO THE SOUTHEAST, UM, THE REQUEST WAS PRESENTED TO, UH, PNC ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THEY, AT THE TIME VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO SUPPORT THIS, UM, ZONING DISTRICT.

AND MAX D IS RECOMMENDED IN THE SUPER REGIONAL, UH, NODE.

UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS IT, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED IT.

AND, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COUNCIL DO THE SAME SO I CAN MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, THANK YOU, MR. COONS, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO UNLESS THERE ARE OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN.

THE PUBLIC HEARING, A PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE? I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE? UM, I HAVE KIND OF SOME CONCERNS REGARDING THE DEED AND THE INDICES.

THERE IS, THIS IS IN A STATE AND THERE ARE SIX OR SEVEN PEOPLE.

UM, MY CONCERN IS REAL BECAUSE, UH, IF WE REZONE THIS AND ANOTHER CO-EXECUTOR DISAGREES WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THIS LAND, UM, IT WOULD MAKE ME EXTREMELY NERVOUS.

SO I HAD REQUESTED THAT PAGE REVIEW, UM, NOT THE APPLICATION, BUT JUST REVIEW THE INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE SIGNING.

AND BECAUSE EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROBABLY BUILDING OR LEASING ON IT.

SO I JUST, BEFORE WE HAD THAT WAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SEVEN DEEDS THAT ARE ON FILE AND THIS SIX TO SEVEN DIFFERENT PEOPLE, WHICH INCLUDE, I THINK LIKE THREE OR FOUR ENTITIES AND A CO-EXECUTOR THAT THEY'RE ALL LIKE WE DID, WE KNOW WHO IS IN CHARGER, ABLE TO MAKE THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS.

THEY RESTRUCTURE CORRECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MR. COONS? UH, I THINK MXD IS A PERFECT ZONING REQUIRES RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

SAME AS IT HAS BEEN.

SO, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE A MOVE BY THE MAYOR SECOND BY A CUSTOMER TOBY AS TO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CUSTOMER HOUSE.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE REALLY HAMMERED THAT OUT FROM OUR LAST DISCUSSION.

UM, SO I'M A LITTLE TORN ON THIS ONE.

UM, I BIG FAN OF MA UH, IT MAKES D UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL ZONING CATEGORIES WE, UH, ADDED IN THE 2017 COMP PLAN UPDATE.

UH, WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN IT REQUESTED, SO IT BRINGS ME GREAT JOY THAT IT'S FINALLY BEING REQUESTED.

SO THERE'S THAT HAPPINESS I HAVE ABOUT THAT? UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH FURTHER WE GOT ON ANY DISCUSSIONS, UM, ON PARTICULAR STRUCTURES, UH, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.

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SO THAT'S WHERE MY, UH, CONSTERNATION IS ON THIS ITEM OUTSIDE OF THAT.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL FOR IT, UM, GOING FORWARD, BUT I GUESS I'D LIKE SOME MORE CLARITY ON THAT.

I KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST READING, SO THAT GIVES ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE SECOND ONE.

AND SO I'LL DEFINITELY BE PURSUING THAT.

SCOTT, DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT QUESTION? MARY COUNCILS COST HEALTH, THE RECORD? I HAVEN'T SEEN AN UPDATED PLAN.

I KNOW THIS IS JUST ZONING, SO I'M NOT, WAS IT YOUR, IS IT YOUR ANTICIPATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR MORE THAN ZONING OR ARE THEY STILL DISCUSSING THEIR DEALS WITH THE CITY ON THE OVERALL PLAN? SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD BEFORE WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS ON SECOND READING TO GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THEIR OVERALL ASK IS.

I THINK THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT COUNSELOR ELLISON IS SAYING.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH, YOU GOT IT.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO TWO.

IT'LL COME BACK FOR SECOND READING.

NEXT STEP.

UH, GENDA

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[Postponed 3/16/2021] (First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, to rezone approximately 19.5 acres of land from Retail Service District ‘RS’ to Multi-Family Residential-3 ‘R-3-3’ for property located at 5492 Kyle Center Drive, in Hays County, Texas. (DDR DB Kyle LP - Z-20-0069) ~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-1 to deny the request.

Public Hearing

]

ITEM NUMBER 19.

UH, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED FEW TIMES IN ORDINANCE.

FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF RECEIVE KYLE TEXAS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 19.5 ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES ARE ESTA MULTIFAMILY ARE THREE, THREE A FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 15 EIGHT, FOUR 92 CALL CENTER DRIVE IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.

UH, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT HEARING IS STILL OPEN.

UH, SO, UH, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, I'M GONNA, UH, BRING IT FORWARD.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THIS, UH, ANY AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? UH, TRAVIS WILL, I'LL PULL YOU UP AND JUST ONE SECOND.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE.

AND SO THAT THEN STARTED TO GET INTO JANUARY, FEBRUARY, 2020.

SEEING NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE.

UH, THIS ITEM, HOWARD, YOU'VE PRESENTED THIS A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES.

MR. SAVEL.

DO YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD AND SAY YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON, ON THE ALBUM? RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR, FOR HAVING ME HERE IN PERSON.

I'VE WATCHED THE, UH, MEETINGS OVER THE LAST FOUR, FOUR MONTHS.

A NICE ACTUALLY SEE EVERYBODY, UH, OFF THE SCREEN.

UM, MY NAME IS TRAVIS SAVILLE AND, UH, YEAH, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER.

THAT'S GOT THIS PROJECT UNDER CONTRACT, UH, WHICH HAS CSW.

UM, IF POSSIBLE, I'D LIKE TO WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT SINCE WE HAVE TAKEN AN UNDER CONTRACT.

AND OUR INITIAL GOAL WHEN WE TOOK IT UNDER CONTRACT IN JUNE OF 2019, UM, WAS TO PUT TOGETHER A RETAIL PROJECT.

AND WE ACTUALLY CAME IN AND IMMEDIATELY SAT WITH THE CITY AS FAR AS DIANA TORRES, UH, YOUR EDC AND WALKED THROUGH HER VISION'S WAR OF THE PROJECT.

UM, WHAT THEY WERE HOPING TO SNAG AS FAR AS THEIR, THEIR TENANTS, THEIR USERS, AND TRY TO COLLABORATE WITH THAT, WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD GO THERE AS WELL.

AND OUR INTENT WAS TO DEVELOP A 42 ACRE RETAIL PROJECT.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE, WE, WITH HER COLLABORATION PUT TOGETHER SITE PLAN AND MARKETING PACKAGES THAT INCLUDED 355,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL VISION OF THIS.

WHEN DDR BUILT THEIR FIRST FACE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A PHASE TWO PHASE THREE, AND UNFORTUNATELY TWO AND THREE NEVER GOT BUILT.

AND THEN THEY STARTED TO UNLOAD THEIR PRODUCT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND HAVE SINCE SOLD PHASE ONE.

AND NOW, UH, ARE TRYING TO UNLOAD TWO AND THREE.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY THEY'RE SELLING IT, IT HAS TO BE BOUGHT ENTIRELY.

SO WE CAN'T BUY ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO SOLVE A 40 ACRES OF LAND.

UM, THAT BEING SAID WITH OUR MARKETING, WITH THAT 355 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, UH, WE HIT THE GAS RUNNING.

WE PUSHED ON THIS, WORKED ON THIS.

WE GOT ALL THE WAY INTO NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF 2019.

AND THE MARKET AT THE TIME STARTED TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT WE, UH, WE APPROACHED EVERY ENTERTAINMENT USER, EVERY, UH, BIG BOX USER, UM, ANYBODY THAT CAN GO AND FILL THAT LARGE TRACK OF LAND OF RETAIL, WHICH AT THE TIME IN 2008, THAT WAS POTENTIALLY ACHIEVABLE.

THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN, UM, INTO 2019, WE STARTED TO REALIZE EVERY RETAILER THAT WE THREW INCENTIVES AT, EVEN WITH THOSE INCENTIVES, THEY WERE NOT GETTING THROUGH COMMITTEES ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROJECT ON 35.

AND SO THEY WERE ALL GETTING THEIR COMMITTEE APPROVALS OVER ON 1626.

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AND WE'RE REALIZING WE NOW HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO AGAIN BUY THE ENTIRE 40 ACRES.

AND IT'S A PRETTY BIG CHALLENGE TO GO BUY ALL 40 ACRES AND MAKE SENSE OF A DEAL LIKE THAT WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE 19 AND A HALF ACRES SOLVE FOR.

AND SO WE GOT INTO THE SUMMER OF 2020 AND WITH INBOUND CALLS COMING FROM MULTI-FAMILY GROUPS, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD AND CLOSE AND GO BUILD WHAT WE WANTED TO BUILD, UH, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

SO I'M HERE TODAY TO, YES, ON THAT NIGHT, TWO AND A HALF ACRES, THAT'S OVER ON I 35, I'M TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.

UH, I'M NOT A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPER.

UH, WE DO, UH, RETAIL AND THAT'S PURELY WHAT WE DO.

AND WE ARE NOW TRYING TO DELIVER 155,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL OVER ON 1626.

UM, AND IT'S A RETAIL PROJECT THAT IS NOT A COOKIE CUTTER PROJECT.

IT'S BEEN A COLLABORATION WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, UM, THAT HAS SHAPED IT INTO A VERY UNIQUE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF AND EXCITED ABOUT.

BUT I THINK ALSO SETS A TONE FOR, I KNOW THERE'S A PLAN FOR MARKETPLACE AND THE CORRIDOR FROM MARKETPLACE AVENUE, UM, WITH SOME OF THE RENDERINGS WE'LL GO THROUGH, I THINK IT SETS THE TONE FOR THAT VISION, WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE, GO NORTH AND CONNECT UP THROUGH THE NORTH.

AND I GET IT.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLAN.

AND I THINK THIS SETS THAT TONE AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE VERY PROTECTIVE ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO ON THAT 1626 SIDE.

UM, WE, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS PRIOR TO US EVEN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT MULTIFAMILY, WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING PROPOSALS, ELLA WISE, INQUIRIES FROM GROUPS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY THEY FIT IN RETAIL.

UM, WE HAD A DIFFERENT VISION FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE WERE PROTECTIVE OF IT.

WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE UNIQUE.

AND SO THE FUELS, THE, THE C STORES, THE, THE, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS OR APPROACHING US, UM, AND PAYING VERY GOOD NUMBERS THAT WOULD MAKES IT VERY ENTICING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, IT DIDN'T FIT THE PICTURE.

AND SO THAT WAS WHY, UM, WHEN WE STARTED KIND OF TALKING WITH SCOTT AND WITH YOUR, YOUR TEAM AROUND HERE, IT WAS OKAY, HOW DO WE SOLVE FOR THIS? AND IT TURNED INTO A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS, UM, WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE HAVE SHAPED A LOT OF THINGS ON THAT PROJECT, AND YES, MULTI-FAMILY WAS ONE OF THEM, UM, WHICH IS NOT MY FORTE.

UM, SO WHAT WAS GETTING SHAPED FROM THAT? UM, I'M LISTENING, I'M RELAYING TO THE GROUP THAT HAS IT UNDER CONTRACT.

AND WHAT THAT SHAPED INTO WAS A FOUR AND THREE STORY URBAN PRODUCT THAT IS PUSHED UP ON THE PARAMETER STREETS THAT ARE ON THAT 19 AND A HALF ACRES ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

UM, THEY HAVE THEN HIDDEN THE PARKING ON THE INTERIOR OF THAT PROJECT.

THEY HAVE PUT THE WORK FOR LIVE PLAY, UM, UNITS ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF MARKETPLACE AVENUE, AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE NOT THEIR IDEA, BUT WAS REFERRED FOR, UH, INFORMATION WE WERE GETTING FROM THE CITY AND TRYING TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THAT AGREEMENT.

AND THAT'S ON THE MULTI-FAMILY SIDE OF IT NOW ON THE RETAIL SIDE OF IT, UH, OUR ORIGINAL VISION WAS GO AND BUILD BIG BOSS, TRADITIONAL PADS, BUT MORE OF THE JUNIOR AND BIG BOX GROUPS.

AND SO, AS WE WERE LISTENING TO WHAT THE CITY WAS LOOKING FOR, WHICH WAS DEMAND FOR, UH, RESTAURANTS, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF UNIQUENESS CUT DOWN ON THAT BIG BOX, UM, WHICH ENTAILED US REMOVING A LOT OF IT.

UH, WE'VE CREATED A GREEN ZONE.

WE CALL IT, WE CALL IT A CART COURTYARD, WHICH IS NOW BEEN KIND OF OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

AND ALSO THROUGH THAT AGREEMENT, WE'VE AGREED TO, UH, PUT UP A CHARGING STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AS WELL.

AND ULTIMATELY WE WERE DEDICATING ABOUT THREE AND A HALF ACRES TO THE CITY FOR MY UNDERSTANDING IS GOING TO BE PARK LANE.

AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, SCOTT, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE CAN KIND OF JUST WALK THROUGH BRIEFLY, UH, IF HE COULD PULL UP THE MULTI-FAMILY MARKETPLACE, THE RENDERING, THE RENDERING, PLEASE.

ITERATIONS TO GET TO THIS POINT.

SO THIS WAS MULTIPLE

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UM, WALKING BACK A LITTLE BIT, LIKE I SAID, UM, THERE WAS BIG DIRECTIONS TRIED TO GO VERTICAL.

AND SO THIS IS FOUR STORY PRODUCT HERE ON MARKETPLACE AVENUE.

UM, AGAIN, THAT URBAN PRODUCT, WHICH IS PUSHING IT UP TO ABOUT 15, 20 FEET UP TO THE STREETS, UH, THEY'VE CREATED ADDITIONAL PARKLAND.

UH, THEY'VE CREATED, THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THEIR CHARGING STATIONS ON HERE AS WELL.

AND, UM, SO THIS IS INCLUDED IN OUR MARKETING PACKAGES.

UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF YOU CAN GO TO, UM, THE CONCEPTUAL FOR THE RETAIL.

SURE.

OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE HAVE TO HIT CERTAIN, CERTAIN INCREMENTS.

AND JUST GO DOWN ONE TO THE SIDE PLAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

SO THIS HAS BEEN THE REVAMPED UPDATED VERSION FROM OUR COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY.

UH, ORIGINALLY WE DID NOT HAVE A, WE HAD ROWS OF PADS ON 1626, UH, THAT MIDDLE PART, WHICH HAS A CLUSTER THAT WAS GOING TO BE MORE JUNIOR ANCHOR SPACE.

UM, WITH OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY, IT WAS, WE WANT MORE ENTERTAINMENT.

WE WANT MORE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.

AND SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS OUR COURTYARD IS IN THE CENTER THERE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR, OUR, UH, WE CALL OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER RENDERING OF WHAT THAT COURTYARD LOOKS LIKE.

AGAIN WITH MORE GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY THAT WILL NOW INCLUDE A WATER FEATURE.

UM, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT ENLARGED AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURES OF IT AND ALL THE GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY, BUT OUR INTENTION IS TO 100% IS BUILT THAT THAT'S PART OF OUR FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, SO WITH THESE RENDERINGS AND EXECUTE DOWN REAL QUICK, WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THE RETAIL WILL LOOK LIKE THESE RENDERINGS.

UM, THIS IS FROM MARKETPLACE AVENUE IN 1626, LOOKING INTO THE PROJECT, UH, PLEASE CONTINUE TO KIND OF SLIDE DOWN.

THIS IS THE CURB CUT COMING IN OFF OF 1626, UH, WITH THESE TWO MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS, JUST SO YOU'RE SURE AND UNDERSTAND, UM, THESE HAVE BEEN ALMOST FULLY LEASED WITH WITH OTHER SERVICE TYPE TENANTS THAT ARE RESTAURANT USERS.

UM, BUT DON'T, THEY DO NOT GO INTO FREESTANDING CONCEPT.

SO THEY, THEY HIT THE SMALL SHOPS.

UH, IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE, THIS IS THE COURTYARD.

AGAIN, THIS WAS THE EARLY STAGES OF THE COURTYARD.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT VERSION OF THIS WHERE IT'S WILL AND KIMBER SOME OF THE, THE, UH, THE WATER FEATURES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAME THING, COURTYARD HERE AS WELL.

AND AS CONTINUED, I THINK THAT'S NOT THE GS, BUT THAT'S THE ARCHITECTURE.

THAT'S THE LOOK, ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

SO THAT IS OUR INTENT.

WE HAVE TO GO BUILD THAT AND WE WERE GOING TO GO BUILD THAT, UM, BECAUSE OF THESE RENDERINGS, THE F THANK YOU, SCOTT, THIS IS THE COURTYARD, UM, OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BIT, NOT AS CLEAN OF A RENDERING, BUT THIS IS MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF THIS.

AND IS, THIS WAS KIND OF LAST MINUTE TRYING TO GET THIS IN, BUT WE CAN TIGHTEN THIS UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT OUR, OUR JUST WAS.

SO THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, THOSE RESTAURANT USERS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, CLUSTER AROUND THAT USE THE OUTSIDE SEATING.

THAT'S BEEN A BIG THING FOR THESE PATRICK COVID FOR BEING ABLE TO HAVE OUTSIDE SEATING AND ACCOMMODATE THESE THINGS.

AND SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THESE RENDERINGS, UM, THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU HERE, ALL OF THIS, THIS IS INCORPORATED IN OUR MARKETING PACKAGE.

IT HAS BEEN A GAME CHANGER FOR WHAT WE ARE GETTING AS FAR AS INTERESTS COMING IN, UM, WITH COVID, A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF DROPPED OFF.

RESTAURANT GROUPS, GOT PUT ON HOLD.

UM, THEY ARE STARTING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE.

WE WISH THE ENTERTAINMENT GUYS WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE, BUT THROUGH THIS, WE ARE NOW GETTING OUR, UH, INTEREST FROM THE GROUPS, SUCH AS SUCH AS ULTA, SUCH AS TJ HOME GOODS.

THEY ARE IN THAT BACK PORTION OF THAT PROJECT.

WE'VE GOT GREAT INTEREST FROM THE SIT DOWN RESTAURANT GROUPS THAT ARE WANTING TO BE AROUND THAT CLUSTER.

UH, AND THEN ALSO AGAIN, UH, THE LIGHTS OF CHIPOTLE THAT ARE NOW, THEY ARE NOW CHASING THIS PROJECT AND THEY WERE COMING TO US.

AND SO IT'S BEEN A UNION YANG.

IT HAS BEEN A COMBINATION OF ALL, EVERYTHING THAT HAS WITH THE 450 UNITS OF THE MULTI-FAMILY URBAN FOUR-STORY PRODUCT THAT IS WALKABLE TO THIS IS NOW MADE THAT LAYOUT VERY, VERY ACHIEVABLE.

AND WE'RE EXCITED WHERE WE ARE WITH IT, CAUSE WE'RE MAKING TREMENDOUS TRACTION.

AND SINCE OF ALL OF THIS, NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST, THESE THINGS ARE COMING OUT AND IT HAS BEEN PROMISED WE WILL GO DELIVER RETAIL AND IT DOESN'T GET DELIVERED.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FEAR AND, UM, THAT INFORMATION, THAT KIND OF WORD LANGUAGE IS IN

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AND IN ORDER FOR THAT REZONING TO ACTUALLY STILL BE ACHIEVED.

UM, ALSO WITH THAT, WE HAVE FIVE TO SIX LEASES THAT ARE SIGNED WITH SOME OF THOSE GROUPS THAT I JUST MENTIONED.

IF WE DON'T DELIVER BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THAN WE ARE REIMBURSING SOMEWHERE IN THE TUNE OF $250,000.

SO I GET, THERE'S A FEAR OF IT.

WE HAVE A FEAR IF IT NOT GETTING DELIVERED, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND IT HAS TO GO OUT AND REIMBURSE ON DEALS THAT IF WE DON'T HIT OUR TIMELINES WITH TIMELINES ARE VERY, VERY TIGHT.

WE'VE ALREADY SAT DOWN WITH THE CITY FOR SOME PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS.

SO WE ARE GETTING A, BETWEEN, WE CAN START CONSTRUCTION CLOSING AND, AND I STARTED CONSTRUCTION.

I STARTED DELIVERING DVT GUYS, AND THAT'S WHAT IS INSIDE OF THOSE LEASES FOR OUR OUTSIDE DATES.

SO THAT SAID ALSO CSW IS A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY FOR RETAIL ONLY.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.

UM, I WOULD EMPLOY YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN.

THERE'S THERE'S MULTITENANT BUILDINGS.

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

WE HAD A PROJECT THAT IS OF SIMILAR SIZE, UH, 40 ACRES OR SO SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THIS WITH THE LAYOUT IS NOT TRADITIONAL.

UH, THERE'S NOT A BIG BOX LINEUPS PER SE.

AND THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS WE WEREN'T GOING INTO THE CITY AND SAYING, HEY, WE NEED A REZONING.

WE NEED THESE OTHER ITEMS IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

IT WAS KIND OF WHAT WE DID WITH DIANA ON THE FRONT END, UNDER CONTRACT.

LET'S GO GET WITH A CITY, LET'S HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY.

WE WANT TO DELIVER WHAT THEY WANT TO WANT TO SEE.

AND SO DO WE, WE WANT TO BE PROUD ABOUT WHAT WE DELIVER.

AND SO I WOULD ASK, UM, THE RENDERINGS THAT I SHOWED YOU HERE, THE SITE PLAN I SHOWED YOU HERE, WE HAVE IDENTICAL PLANS AND RENDERINGS THAT WE USE FOR GEORGETOWN, AND THAT PROPERTY IS ON THE GROUND DELIVERED TODAY.

AND THAT'S JUST HOW WE HANDLE OUR BUSINESS.

WE DON'T WANT TO COME IN AND SHOVE DOWN YOUR THROAT.

THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE HERE.

HERE'S HOW IT WORKS.

IT IS HOW DO WE GET TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER ON IT? AND SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS HAPPENING FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, JUNE, JUNE OF 2019.

UM, SOMETHING ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO JUST KINDA TOUCH ON IS IF WE ARE ON A TIMEFRAME AND A TIMEFRAME WITH THE UNDERLYING CONTRACT WITH DDR, AND WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE HAVE WORKED ON THIS SAME FOR TWO YEARS IN ORDER FOR THIS TO WORK FOR US, TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE ON AND DELIVER THE RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT WE WERE WANTING TO DO, THE ZONING HAS TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO CLOSE ON 40 ACRES, A PROJECT OF LAND WHERE WE DON'T HAVE HALF OF IT SOLVE FOR.

AND IF WE CAN'T GET THE ZONING AND THAT SOLVES FOR, THEN WE CAN'T CLOSE ON THE HARD WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS D DA THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR OVER NINE MONTHS.

SCOTT IS TIRED OF HEARING FROM ME.

I COULD FEEL IT IN HIS VOICE EVERY TIME HE TALKS TO ME, BUT HE DOES LISTEN.

I APPRECIATE IT.

BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT IN THAT DA AND THE COLLABORATION FROM EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, THAT PARTNERSHIP THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY.

I MEAN, WE'RE HERE TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO DELIVER THAT DA.

SO THE COURTYARD THAT GOES IN THERE, THE, THE, THE, THE CHARGING STATIONS THAT WE WANT TO PUT AROUND THERE, THAT RESTAURANT CLUSTER, THE, THE, THE DONATION OF THE LAND.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S, THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH US.

AND IF WE'RE NOT HERE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO UPHOLD IT.

AND I GUESS IN CLOSING, I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE APPRECIATED THE COLLABORATION, THE PARTNERSHIP HERE, UH, WE'VE DEVELOPED IN KYLE BEFORE WE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.

THEN WE SEE OTHER PLANS FOR THIS MARKET AS WELL.

UM, WE LOVE THE IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DELIVER OUR MARKETPLACE AVENUE THAT CUT THROUGH TO THE NORTH THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S ACHIEVABLE.

IS IT JUST YOU WILL TODAY? NO, THERE'S SOME TEACHERS THAT GOT TO GET PUT TOGETHER, BUT WE LIKE WHERE YOU'RE HEADING WITH THAT.

THERE'S SOME OTHER AREAS OF TOWN ON THAT THAT WE WANT TO TACKLE AND WORKING ON THAT AND WORKING ON THIS, THIS IS HOW WE OPERATE IN GIVING THE CHANCE TO DO NOT ONLY ON THIS, BUT FUTURE PROJECTS.

YOU CAN EXPECT THE EXACT SAME BEHAVIOR FROM US.

UH, WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

WE WANT TO DELIVER SOMETHING YOU'RE PROUD OF.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

WE HAVE AN EGO AS WELL.

WE WANT TO DELIVER SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF AS WELL.

AND THAT'S, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM ME? THANK YOU, TRAVIS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK? I HAVE A LITTLE BIT CUSTOMER, RIGHT.

THE LAND THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO GET THE REZONING FOR.

SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

SO JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR ON THIS, IF THIS, THEN THAT SITUATION.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU DON'T OWN

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IS THAT CORRECT? OR YOU DO OWN THE LAND.

WE HAVE CONTROL OF THE LAND.

WE HAVE AN UNDER CONTRACT.

CURRENT UNDERLYING OWNER IS DDR.

THEY HAVE OWNED THAT LAND.

THEY HAVE DEVELOPED WHAT IS THERE.

SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE GROUND, WHAT YOU SEE ON EIGHT 35, AS FAR AS THOSE PADS, THAT BLOCK, THAT VISIBILITY FROM OVER THERE, UH, THAT WAS WITH THE PREVIOUS DOING THAT, THAT THE CURRENT OWNER.

AND SO WE DO HAVE IT UNDER CONTRACT WITH THEM.

SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEVELOPING IT AND THEN SELLING IT OFF SO THAT YOU HAVE THE PROFIT TO INITIATE THE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU JUST SHOWED TO US.

WHAT THAT DOES, IS IT NOT, IT DOES NOT GIVE US A PROFIT.

IT MITIGATES OUR COSTS ON THE OVERALL PROJECT, WHICH IS TO THE, I CAN'T DISCUSS HERE.

IT DOES NOT GET US TO THAT PRICE.

UH, IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER, BUT IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM OF WHAT DO WE DO AT 19 AND A HALF ACRES.

THAT'S A VERY BIG THING TO HAVE TO SOLVE FOR, TO MAKE THESE, MAKE THE NUMBERS YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE PLOT OF LAND THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE REZONING ON.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

UM, SEVERAL, SEVERAL THOUGHTS.

THANKS.

UH, SO NUMBER ONE IS THAT CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN KIND OF THERE WITH YOU, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THIS LAST NINE MONTHS.

YOU AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS.

I KNOW YOU'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHERS ON THIS DICE, WORKED WITH STAFF, WE'VE DISCUSSED IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRETY OF THIS YEAR.

IT SEEMS LIKE CONTINUING TO POSTPONE.

THE REASON THAT WE CONTINUE TO POSTPONE IS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS TO LINE UP WITH OUR EXPECTATIONS.

AND THAT PROCESS HAS JUST TAKEN A LONG TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE FEAR ABOUT THE RETAIL NOT WORKING OUT CORRECTLY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SWALLOW A HORSE PILL IN ORDER, IN ORDER TO GET THAT CHIPOTLE THAT YOU'VE THROWN OUT, WE HAVE TO SWALLOW A HORSE PILL.

AND THAT HORSE PELL IS TAKING A PRIME RETAIL LAND THAT WE NEVER THOUGHT SHOULD BE.

MULTI-FAMILY, IT'S NEVER BEEN IN THAT DIRECTION AND HAVE CONSIDERED LETTING IT GO FOR THE SAKE OF THE PITCH THAT YOU HAVE MADE, THE TYPE OF PROJECT YOU'RE DOING AND TO BRING, UH, I WISH VERY MUCH, UH, THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE CARROT, YOU WEREN'T HAPPY, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR US TO ALL HAVE A GREAT RETAIL PROJECT THAT WE WANT, WE WANT TO SEE THE PROJECT, NOT, EVERYONE'S EXCITED ABOUT EVERYTHING IN YOUR RETAIL PROJECT, BUT I THINK ENOUGH OF US ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE RETAIL PROJECT TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOOD FOR THE CITY, BUT WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD IS THAT IN ORDER FOR THAT PROJECT TO GO ON, TO PROCEED, UH, WE HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THIS MULTIFAMILY, UH, TO, TO GO IN BEHIND THE TARGET.

AND, AND, AND HONESTLY, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE PROBABLY BEEN ON THE FENCE ABOUT NOT EVERYBODY ON THE DIOCESE ALWAYS EVEN BEEN IN AGREEMENT, UH, ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

UM, BUT THE, AS THESE MARKET CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED, I THINK WE'VE JUST ALL KIND OF BEEN MADE AWARE THAT OUR THREE, THREE IS NOT HIGH, SOME MISUSE THERE.

AND WHILE THE ARGUMENT HAS BEEN MADE, THAT THAT PARTICULAR, THAT DRR SOLD US OUT.

AND SO NOW ALL THAT CAN BE MADE OUT OF THE, UH, THE PROJECTS BEHIND THE TARGET AND BEHIND THE, THE CARWASH AND ALL THAT IS MULTIFAMILY.

AND THAT'S ALL THAT IT'S EVER GOOD FOR.

I JUST, I DON'T THINK THAT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET THERE TO SHARE THAT.

I KNOW THAT'S IN YOUR INTEREST FOR US TO BELIEVE THAT, BUT WE'RE SEEING SO MUCH RETAIL INTEREST RIGHT NOW.

UH, AND THEY'VE BEEN HOLDING OUT ON THAT PRO THAT PLACE FOR 13, 14 YEARS, TRYING TO SEE IT BE DEVELOPED RETAIL.

THE CHALLENGE IS FOR US TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE UP ALL THAT SPACE WHEN IT'S REALLY NOT EVEN THE MULTI-FAMILY WE ASKED FOR.

AND WE CERTAINLY VERY MUCH ASKED FOR MIXED USE EARLY ON IN THIS PROJECT SAYING, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY GET EVERYBODY BEHIND ON.

AND WE JUST VOTED IN MIXED USE ON A SIMILAR PRO UH, PLOT OF LAND, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY.

SO THE IDEA THAT IT CAN'T BE MIXED USE IS ALSO A CHALLENGE FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SEEING MORE AND MORE THAT MIXED USE IS A POSSIBILITY IT'S HAPPENING IN BUDA, IT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE IN SAN MARCOS.

UM, SO I'M, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT DONE WITH ARTHUR THREE, BUT, UM, IF THAT'S, IF THAT, IF THAT DOESN'T KILL YOU, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO STILL INCENTIVIZE THE RETAIL.

UM, ONE OF THE OPTIONS MIGHT BE, UH, PULLING THE TERS DOWN, UH, AND LOOKING AT TERSE FUNDS TO HELP INCENTIVIZE YOUR PROJECT.

WE HAVE LOTS OF RESTAURANT DEALS THAT, THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING TO HELP INCENTIVIZE RESTAURANT GROUPS.

UM, UH, THERE'S PROBABLY NO LIMIT TO WHAT WE COULDN'T WOULDN'T DO IN ORDER TO GET THE RIGHT KIND OF RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING, BUT YOU'RE ASKING US TO TRADE OFF SO MUCH MULTI-FAMILY

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FOR IT.

UM, AND I THINK JUST PROBABLY HERE RECENTLY, AS WE'VE BEEN CONSIDERING THAT MAYBE THERE ARE ACTUALLY STILL SOME GOOD USES BACK THERE BEHIND TARGET.

ONCE WE MAKE THE DECISION, WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION FOR ALL FUTURE USES TO SAY THAT THIS WAS HIGHEST AND BEST USE.

UH, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO DO SO.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK TO THAT, OR IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE ONTO THAT, BUT AS IT RELATES TO RIGHT NOW WITH WHERE WE ARE IN THE, IN THE PROJECT, UH, I'M NOT, UM, FOR MYSELF, AT LEAST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I THINK I'M PROBABLY LOSING THE DESIRE TO TURN THAT TO, UH, TO MULTIFAMILY.

SO, UH, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS OR DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF RESPONSE TO WHAT I JUST SAID? I GUESS MY RESPONSE WOULD BE, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THE RETAIL BEING THERE? BECAUSE WITH OUR PROCESS OF THE TWO YEARS OF PUSHING, PUSHING, KNOWING THAT THAT WAS OUR TRIAL CHALLENGE PROBLEM OVER THERE IN IT, AND INCENTIVIZING THOSE GROUPS WHO GO OVER THERE.

AND TWO YEARS OF THAT, THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN, WE CANNOT GET THESE APPROVED THROUGH COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE TO BE ON THE 1626 SIDE, WHICH IS NOT WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.

I WANTED TO HEAR.

I I'D LOVE THE RETAIL TO BE OVER THERE.

THIS WOULD BE A MUCH SIMPLER PROCESS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

CAN'T GET APPROVED THROUGH COMMITTEE.

SORRY.

WELL, THE FEEDBACK, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE IS THE EXISTING BUFFER THAT IS THERE ON 35.

AND THESE AREN'T BAD USES THAT THEY ARE DETERRENT FROM NATIONAL USERS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR VISIBILITY AND NOT TO BE BLOCKED WITH THIS BUFFER.

AND AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT BAD USES.

THEY'RE DETERRENCE FROM FEEDBACK THAT I'M GETTING FROM NATIONAL USERS, WHICH HAVE NOW SHIFTED TO THE 1626 SIDE.

WHEN YOU MENTIONED THEM.

I MEAN, IT'S CHICKEN EXPRESS, IT'S A CARWASH, IT'S A TWO STORY MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING.

IT'S A KYLE YAR AND NOW THERE'S A GAS STATION AND A CALIBER COLLISION.

AND THOSE AREN'T BAD USES THEY'RE BEING DELIVERED IN REVERSE.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO LAND PEOPLE BEHIND THAT, THAT WOULD WANT TO BE ON NINE 35.

THEY'RE NOW KIND OF BEING BLOCKED BY NOT THE CLASS, A TYPE OF USERS THAT ARE NOW GETTING DELIVERED.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS ON THE 16, 26 SIDE.

AND SO THAT IS WHY NATIONAL COMMITTEES, TJ HOMEGOODS FIVE BELOW GROCERS ULTA.

I MEAN, WE PITCHED AS MUCH AS WE COULD TO GET THEM OVER THERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.

AND THEN WE BECAME, WE GOT SETTLED WITH THE PROBLEM OF IT.

THEY'RE NOT GOING THERE.

WE CAN'T INCENTIVIZE THEM THERE.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S INCENTIVES FOR RESTAURANTS, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, NONE OF THAT UNFORTUNATELY MADE A DENT WITH THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR, I MEAN, IF, IF YOU THINK THAT'S HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THAT SIDE OF THE PROJECT, WHAT USERS DO YOU THINK GO THERE? BECAUSE EVEN BEFORE, BEFORE COVID THE MARKETING WAS GEARED TOWARDS THOSE USERS, THOSE JUNIOR USERS.

AND THEN WE SHIFTED, AND I KNOW THERE'S INCENTIVES FROM THIS CITY FOR, UH, ENTERTAINMENT USERS, UH, OUTDOOR GOLF, AND WE PITCH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE, AND THAT WAS PRE COVID.

AND SO AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S A PROBLEM WHEN YOU KIND OF STARTED TO SEE THERE AND THEN WHEN COVID HIT, IT WAS A MAJOR PROBLEM.

IN AT THAT POINT, WE'VE JUST GOT A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS THING THAT WE HAVE PURSUED AND, AND, AND SPENT.

AND NOW SPENT NOT ONLY LEGALLY WITH OUR TENANTS THAT WE HAVE SIGNED LEASES WITH, UM, BUT ALSO LEGAL WITH, WITH GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

AND I, I WAS NEVER LED UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT WOULD BE AN EASY PROCESS.

AND I, I LOOK AT THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THERE'S A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE, AND WE TRY TO ACCOMMODATE IN, IN, IN AS MUCH AS WE COULD ON BOTH SIDES.

YOU KNOW, I, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT.

AND I FELT THAT, UM, I THINK, UH, WE, I THINK WE HAD IT BUTTONED UP A MONTH AGO.

WE MIGHT, IT MIGHT'VE HAPPENED THAT THE PROBLEM IS JUST THAT YOU SAID PRE COVID AND THE, I THINK THAT WE'RE PROBABLY REALIZING THAT PRE COVID AND POST COVID ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR THE CITY OF KYLE THAN PERHAPS OTHER PLACES RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT THE WE'RE SEEING A SURGE OF INTEREST IN OUR CITY ACROSS THE BOARD, IN EVERY CATEGORY.

UH, OUR LAND HAS NEVER BEEN MORE VALUABLE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

THAT'S GENERALLY THE MENTALITY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT RESTAURANTS ARE

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ON THE BACK END OF THAT.

SO IF WE JUMP AND GIVE THE LOWEST USE THE ONES THAT ARE READY TO GO RIGHT NOW, UH, ARE WE DOING WHAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY? I THINK THAT'S JUST THE QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JUST TAKE A VOTE ON IT AT THIS POINT.

UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF REASONS.

THERE'S BEEN REASONS TO POSTPONE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DRIVE TOWARDS RESOLUTION, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE THERE, UH, ANY MORE, UH, I'M GOING TO TURN THE FLOOR OVER NOW.

SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO, UH, ADD ANY COMMENTARY.

IF I MAY SAY ONE MORE THING, IF SURE.

IF THIS IS THE SOLUTION, UH, ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVES THAT WE CAN EXPLORE? I MEAN, I PUT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS.

I CARE ABOUT THIS COMPANY, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS CITY, UM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE EXPLANATION OR ONE MORE EXPLANATION, BUT MORE BRAINSTORMING ON HOW DO WE KEEP, KEEP, KEEP DOING THIS AGAIN.

I'M, I'M GOING A TIGHT, TIGHT TIMEFRAME.

I POURED A LOT OF HEART AND SOUL INTO THIS.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE IN THIS ROOM TOO.

AND I, I RECOGNIZE THAT AND APPRECIATE IT.

SO I'D ALSO, I GUESS MY GAS WOULD ASK THEM WOULD BE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND BRAINSTORM ON BECAUSE I WANT TO DELIVER THIS.

I'M GOING ALONG AND I DON'T WANT TO DELIVER MULTI-FAMILY.

I WANT TO DELIVER RETAIL.

I KNOW YOU DO.

I THINK WE ALL DO BELIEVE THAT WE BELIEVE THAT YOU DO, BUT YOU'RE TELLING US WE HAVE TO GIVE MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO PLOTS OF LAND UNDER CONTRACT, YOU'RE SPECULATING ON TWO PLOTS OF LAND.

YOU WANT TO DO RETAIL, BUT WE HAVE TO GIVE UP RETAIL IN ORDER TO GET YOUR RETAIL.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM, BUT KELSEY ELLISON.

YEAH, I CONCUR.

AND SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY MY PIECE ON THIS.

UM, SO I KNOW, UM, AND MAYBE THE COMMITTEE HAD MENTIONED EARLIER WAS DEPENDING ON ZONING COMMISSION.

I KNOW THEY WERE NOT TOO, UM, FAVORABLE ON THIS ITEM.

I THINK THEY EVEN VOTED IT DOWN IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

UM, NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT OPTIONS, BUT, UH, STILL I I'VE, UM, THE COUNCIL KNOWS I HAVEN'T, UH, SPOKEN UP TOO MUCH ON, ON THE DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BECAUSE I WASN'T IN FAVOR OF IT.

AND, UM, MY, MY STAFF KNOWS THIS AS WELL.

I'VE ASKED FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT, UH, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY.

SO, UH, RETAIL AND SERVICES, UH, ON THAT FIRST FLOOR AND VERTICAL MIXED-USE, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN IN FAVOR OF.

SO IF YOUR STATE STANDING HERE BEFORE US, UH, STATING, YOU KNOW, WHAT DIRECTION WE WANT, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT WAS THE INITIAL DIRECTION WAS THAT WE WANT TO SEE MAKES USE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF.

AND I THINK, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING, MIGHT'VE BEEN IN FAVOR OF THAT AS WELL, AND BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

UM, SO IF I CAN HEAR YOUR CONCERN AND DESIRE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT COME TO FRUITION, UH, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER POSTPONEMENT, UH, PERHAPS THE ACCOUNTS WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT, BUT, UM, I WAS GOING TO REJECT, UH, THE, WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.

GOOD.

TO BE HONEST.

AND SO, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT, MY FEEDBACK, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT STAFF'S DIRECTION WAS.

AND, AND THEN PROBABLY RELATE TO YOUR PARTIES, ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK, MAYOR PRO TIP, UM, TRAVIS, WE S WE SPOKE ON THE PHONE QUITE A WHILE BACK AGO.

I MADE MY CONCERNS CLEAR TO YOU.

I THINK BACK THEN, IT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE'VE BEEN REPEATING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, UP HERE THAT WHILE I LOVED THE PROJECT THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING ON 1626, I CAN'T TRADE FUTURE RETAIL SERVICE SPACE FOR OUR 33.

WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH OF IT IN THIS AREA.

IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THE TIME'S NOT RIGHT NOW, THEN THAT SAYS TO ME THAT WE NEED TO BE PATIENT AND THAT THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN THE TIME IS CORRECT.

AND WE ARE ABOUT TO ENTER A BOOM IN THIS AREA.

AND SO I KNOW THAT YOU'RE ON A DEADLINE AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A TIME CRUNCH, AND WHILE I WANT YOUR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT ON 1626, , ISN'T GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO GET ME OVER THE EDGE ON THAT.

I THINK WE'VE MADE THAT MISTAKE IN THE PAST, OR WE'VE TRADED GOOD RETAIL SERVICE SPACE FOR OUR THREE, THREE, AND REGRETTED IT.

SO I DON'T WANT US TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN.

AND SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THAT.

AND I HAVEN'T SUPPORTED IT SINCE THE BEGINNING.

I WATCHED YOU GUYS WORK THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT

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TO TRY TO GET THERE.

AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB CONVINCING VARIOUS MEMBERS AND STAFF MEMBERS THAT THIS MIGHT BE THE WAY TO GO, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE TO A YES, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A NO FOR ME.

AND I JUST HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T FIND A BETTER USE THAN OUR THREE, THREE FOR THAT SPACE, THEN I BELIEVE WE NEED TO WAIT CUSTOMER FLOORS KILLED.

UM, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED HOW WE GOT THIS FAR AS A CITY AND AS A DEVELOPER, LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THIS HAS BEEN POSTPONED AND, AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW WE WENT ALONG AND AGREED.

I MEAN, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.

I WAS NEVER GONNA WANT APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA, BUT MY CONCERN IS WE DO WANT RETAIL.

AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? BUT WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR YOU? LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS RETAIL HAPPEN, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH YOU TO TRY TO DO THAT WITH? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT A STANDSTILL WITH THE APARTMENTS.

SO THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, WHICH IS WHAT I REALLY LIKE TO DO, BECAUSE I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET THAT RETAIL OVER HERE.

WHAT CAN WE DO MINUS THE APARTMENTS? WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO TRY TO GET THIS RETAIL ON 1626? OKAY.

OH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

LIKE, IS THAT, IS THAT ULTIMATELY IT LIKE, UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE DANDELION CONTRACT, DDR UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEIR TRAIL INCHES ARE, WHICH IS QUITE FRANKLY THE SAME CHALLENGES I HAVE 16, 26 MAKES SENSE.

THAT'S AN EASY ONE TO TRANS TRANSACT ON.

UM, THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AN ISSUE OVER ON 35.

AND SO THEY HAVE TETHERED THAT CONTRACT TO BOTH OR NOTHING.

SO, AND YOU ASK HOW, HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.

UM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION WE WERE GETTING FEEDBACK.

I DIDN'T HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO I WAS GETTING FEEDBACK FROM, BUT I WAS GETTING FEEDBACK.

AND WHAT WAS SHOWN TO YOU, UM, WAS NOT SOMETHING I PUT IT TOGETHER.

IT WAS WHAT WE WERE THINKING WE WERE MAKING TRACTION ON AND GETTING FEEDBACK ON AND HAD HAD HOPES THAT, THAT THE AGREEMENT HAD GOTTEN TO AN AGREED TO STATE.

AND SO, YEAH, I'M, I'M DISHEARTENED TO HEAR THAT NINE MONTHS OF THINKING THAT WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND TEAMING AND COLLABORATING, UM, TO HEAR TODAY THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY VERY FAR APART AND THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S PRETTY FRUSTRATING.

UM, AND I'M SURE IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON THE AGREEMENT AS WELL.

UM, THE PATH FORWARD IS SOMEHOW THAT SIDE HAS TO GET SOLVED FOR, AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT.

I W I WISH I DID.

IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY, ALREADY GONE DOWN THAT ROAD.

WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS ROOM, UM, FOR ME TO GO BUILD THAT 1626 SIDE PROJECT.

THEN THAT SIDE HAS TO BE PURCHASED IN SOME WAY.

IT HAS TO BE SOLVED FOR IN SOME WAY.

AND, AND IT'S JUST NOT THERE.

UM, AND I GET IT, SORRY TO DO THAT, BY THE WAY, THEY'RE HOLDING UP GOOD RETAIL IN ORDER TO OFFLOAD A BAD SITE, I'M HOLDING UP A GOOD RETAIL.

UM, AND AGAIN, JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT, I MEAN, WE'RE HERE TO WORK WITH YOU TO GET TO THAT, THAT RETAIL THAT DOESN'T GET DELIVERED.

HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO GO BUILD.

I MEAN, THAT WAS FEEDBACK COMING FROM YOU ALL.

AND, AND WE WANTED TO HOLD IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE UPHELD THE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN YOUR COMPANY AND THE CITY OF KALA HAVE BEEN IN GOOD FAITH SINCE THE BEGINNING.

SURE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE, YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU NECESSARILY HAD UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.

CAUSE YOU GOT BLOWN UP AT P AND Z OVER OVER THE CHUTE ISSUE, BUT OUR DISCUSSIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN GOOD FAITH.

UH, AND WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TRYING TO GET TO YES.

AND IT FELT LIKE THERE WAS A PATH, BUT THE KIND OF THE TIME HAS COME.

WE JUST, WE DIDN'T MAKE IT, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY.

AND I DO APOLOGIZE.

I KNOW IT'S FRUSTRATING.

UM, BUT THE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN GOOD FAITH.

THEY'VE BEEN TRANSPARENT AND HONEST WITH YOU ABOUT OUR FEEDBACK ON THE WHOLE PROJECT.

UH, WE'VE TRIED TO GET THERE AND I DO APOLOGIZE.

AND, AND THERE IS STILL MEAT ON THE BONE FOR YOUR RETAIL PROJECT TO, TO FIND OTHER PATHWAYS TO HELP YOU CAPITALIZE, UH, TO HELP YOU MAKE YOUR DEALS STRONG.

WE WANT TO SEE THAT, THAT PART OF THE AGREEMENT MOVE FORWARD.

UNDERSTANDING OBVIOUSLY THAT THE UNDERLYING FINANCIALS MAYBE HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU WERE TRYING TO LEVER THE R THREE, THREE SITE TO HELP YOU WITH THIS SITE.

UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE MAY START BACK FROM ZERO, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE

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TO ENGAGE THE CITY IF IT, YOUR DESIRE TO, TO DEVELOP THAT RETAIL.

UM, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO HELP YOU.

THAT'S THE ONE THING YOU HEARD FROM THE UNANIMOUS, THE THING YOU HEARD THAT WHERE WE DON'T LIKE IS THE WE DO LIKE THE RETAIL.

SO I JUST, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY TO CONTINUE WITH THIS.

AND WOW.

I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU'RE IN SOME WEIRD CONTRACT WITH DRR, NOT, I CAN'T, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH YOU ON THAT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS ON THE RETAIL SIDE, YOU GOT THE MAKINGS OF A GREAT PROJECT THAT THE CITY OF KYLE WANTS TO SEE HAPPEN.

AND WE ARE WHERE WE STAND HERE, READY TO WORK WITH YOU ON, ON THAT PROJECT ON, IN PRETTY MUCH IN ANY WAY I THINK TO HELP MAKE IT COME TO LIFE.

WE WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN TOO.

UM, IT'S JUST THE, IT'S BEEN A HORSE PILL TRYING TO TRY AND TO SWALLOW THE AND ULTIMATELY WE JUST CAN'T GET IT DOWN.

AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT.

I'M SORRY.

YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THESE LAST NINE MONTHS, UH, THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE, UH, UH, I WANTED TO SEE THIS PROJECT GET DELIVERED, UH, AS WELL, BECAUSE I WANTED TO S I WANTED TO SEE THAT RETAIL.

I STILL DO.

UH, SO, UH, ANYWAYS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO ADD OR THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD ON TOP OF THIS COUNCILMAN BRECCIA FIRST, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KEL, WHERE YOU FINISHED.

UM, I DO WANT TO SAY YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH FOR JUST THE BACK AND FORTH NEGOTIATIONS ON THE DA.

AND I THINK THAT, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT, ABOUT WHO YOU ARE.

AND I WOULD, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM.

I WOULD GIVE MY LEFT KIDNEY FOR A CHIPOLTE LAY HERE IN KYLE.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO COME UP WITH A WIN-WIN, UM, AND SEE THAT RETAIL HAPPEN.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE 19 ACRES THAT YOU INITIALLY ASKED FOR THE REZONING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S FINDING SOME OTHER SORT OF SUITABLE DEVELOPMENT ON THERE OR ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF MIXED USE.

AGAIN, I'M NOT REALLY SURE, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

WELL, I AM HERE.

I'D LOVE TO FIGURE IT OUT.

UM, I'M SORRY.

HAVE YOU, UM, HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH DIANA RECENTLY? UM, I WOULD SAY IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS, UM, AND NOR THE REASON OTHER THAN IT'S BEEN TUNNEL VISION ON THE DA AND TUNNEL VISION ON THIS.

UM, SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO REACH OUT BACK TO HER AND THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE THAT I'M MISSING THEN.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE, MIGHT BE WORTHY TO JUST MAYBE SET UP A MEETING OR SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER ON AND, AND FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION FOR THIS.

OTHER COMMENTS OR EMOTIONS, CASPER.

ALISON.

I JUST, UM, I THINK THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN FINE AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS PARTICULARLY NOW UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT BETTER, HOW MY COLLEAGUES FEEL ABOUT THIS.

UM, FOR ME, CERTAINLY RETAIL THE RESTAURANTS.

UH, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

UH, I THINK YOU GOT THE POINT, THE ONLY WAY I WAS REALLY INTO SWALLOW MULTIFAMILY WAS TO GET IT AND MAKES USE, UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT POINT, UH, CLEARLY THE CITY OF COLLEGE LOOKING FOR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT, UH, PAD SITES.

SO, UM, THAT IS MY DESIRE.

UM, AND TO SEE THAT ANY AND EVERYWHERE IN THAT AREA, YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, COUNCILOR, ELSON, UH, ONLY EMOTION I'D BE WILLING TO, TO MAKE OR SUPPORT WOULD BE TO POSTPONE.

UM, IF THAT'S THE COUNSELOR'S DESIRE AND THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE, UH, ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO, OR WHATEVER, WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO, UH, CERTAINLY I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THE, UH, ITEM.

OH, OKAY.

UM, UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.

ALRIGHT.

THERE'S A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.

IT'S BEEN MOTION BY CASPER ELLISON, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR BRADSHAW TO POSTPONE TO THE NEXT REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOM ORDERS UP? YEAH, JUST TO THE DEVELOPER REAL QUICK.

UH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE POSTPONEMENT? IS THAT A TORTURE YOU WOULD MIND GOING IN? SO YOU'RE TELLING ME I'M NOT DEAD RIGHT NOW.

IF I GO TO THE, YES, I'M GOOD.

I'LL GO TO THE POSTPONEMENT.

PLEASE FORGIVE ME FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF BEING THE SITUATION.

HOW CAN I SET UP A MEETING WITH YOU ALL TO TALK AND BRAINSTORM THROUGH THIS MORNING? CAN'T GOTTA GO, GOTTA GO THROUGH STAFF OR LESS THAN A QUORUM, YOU KNOW, ONE

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TO THREE OF US.

SO MAYBE BASED ON ALL THE FEEDBACK YOU CAN REACH OUT, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ANY ANYONE YOU WANT.

WE CAN ALL TALK TO YOU, BUT AS FAR AS, UH, AS FAR AS THAT GOT A LOT OF FANS UP THERE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAN OTHERS.

UM, SO MY FEEDBACK WOULD BE NOT TO POSTPONE, UH, CAUSE WE POSTPONED SO MUCH, UH, THE, THE THREE NAYS WERE BASED ON NO MULTIFAMILY AND THE REQUEST IS MULTIFAMILY.

I WOULD PREFER TO GIVE MR. SMALLVILLE THAT FEEDBACK.

NOW, IF THE, IF IT'S FOR SURE NOT GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO VOTE, UH, CONTINUE TO ENGAGE AND TALK ABOUT RETAIL AND MIXED USE.

STARTING TOMORROW.

WE JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT MULTIFAMILY OFF THE TABLE.

UH, IF THAT IS INDEED WHAT OUR DESIRE IS, WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND DO THIS AGAIN IN A FEW MORE WEEKS, I'M GETTING COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

EVERY MEETING WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IF POSSIBLE, BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M NOT A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPER.

I LOOKED AT WHEN THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ME, DOES MIXED USE WORK HERE ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF MARKETPLACE AVENUE? IS IT A STANDALONE? YEAH, IT DOES.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHATEVER THAT RETAIL IS, IS GOING TO BE COMPETING WITH THE 155,000 SQUARE FEET OUT POSITIONED GOOD RETAIL.

AND SO IF THERE IS A WAY TO BRAINSTORM ON CREATING, BEING CREATIVE BRAINSTORMING ON THAT FIRST FLOOR, THAT CAN TRANSITION INTO A RETAIL AT SOME POINT, IF WITH A TIMELINE OF SOME, SOME POINT WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE MATURE, BECAUSE I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON MARKETPLACE CORRIDOR.

AND I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING YOU GOT SOME CONNECT APPEAL ABILITY THAT YOU GOT TO REALLY GOT TO SOLVE FOR AT SOME POINT.

YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY, REALLY GREAT CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR FEATURE FOR KYLE.

TH THE THING IS THAT'S MIXED USE.

AND I THINK, I THINK YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY GET SOME OF THOSE.

YOU'VE HEARD THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT.

YOU COULD, IF YOU CAN TURN THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SWAY THIS THING AND GO GET THAT FEEDBACK ON MIXED USE.

SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT AS IT RELATES TO OUR THREE-THREE, I'VE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'VE BEEN HOLDING IT OPEN FOR A LONG TIME, UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS IS STILL OPEN TO OUR THREE, THREE.

WE SHOULD.

MY OPINION AS MAYOR IS THAT FOR THE SAKE OF MR. SAUL BELL AND FOR US HAVING CLARITY.

UH, SO WE'D GO AHEAD AND, UH, GO AHEAD AND GIVE HIM THAT FEEDBACK ON THE , UH, AS, AS SO, BUT IF WE WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN, LET'S KEEP IT OPEN.

THAT'S FINE.

BUT THAT'S MY FEEDBACK.

WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND AS THERE, UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, COUNCILMEMBER, ELSA CALCIUM ELLISON.

SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT MARRIED.

I, I, I GUESS I MOSTLY AGREE WITH IT, SO I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF OUR THREE, THREE THERE AT ALL.

SO IF THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE MOTION.

WELL, I MEAN, I'VE SAID THAT PRETTY MUCH FROM THE BEGINNING, UH, NINE MONTHS AGO, SIX MONTHS AGO, THREE MONTHS AGO.

UM, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'VE BEEN, UH, WHATEVER, PERHAPS IS THE BEST APPROACH FROM HERE.

CERTAINLY I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS OR WHAT STAFF MIGHT HAVE OR WHAT BETTER APPROACH TO GO THERE.

UM, UM, I'LL LEAVE THAT OPEN.

I JUST, UH, TRYING TO FIND A, UM, UH, COMPROMISE FORWARD IN ORDER TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION.

AND SO THE GENTLEMEN CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND GET THIS PROJECT, UH, ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND, AND TO A POINT WHERE, WHERE WE ARE GETTING, UH, WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR AND NOT HAVING TO SWALLOW THAT HORSE BILL, AS YOU SAID.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THAT.

WELL, I'M JUST I'LL LOOK MY CONSCIENCE ON THAT ONE.

DO YOU WANT TO RESTATE THE MOTION? THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY BUSINESS REASON THAT WE SHOULD KEEP THIS OPEN? SO I DO.

I WORK FOR A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY.

I, WE DO DEVELOPMENTS ALL THE TIME.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOU, LIKE, IS, IS THIS, WE ARE CLEARLY NOT GOING TO VOTE YES.

ON THIS, BUT TO KEEP IT OPEN AND TO HEAR IT NEXT WEEK, WOULD THERE BE ANY LIKE BUSINESS REASON TO DO THAT? OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH IT? IF WE JUST, I I'M OKAY WITH IT.

I MEAN, UM, I HAVE TO GO GET SOME EXTRA TIME FOR MY UNDERLYING SELLER, UH, WHICH I HAD TO MAKE THAT DECISION IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO, BUT YEAH, I REALLY DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN JUST WAITING.

AND AS LONG AS HE'S AWARE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO PROBABLY PLAN ON THIS, THERE'S A, THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST WHAT WE SEE RIGHT HERE.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BUSINESS ASPECTS AS WELL.

SO, UM, AS LONG AS YOU'RE OKAY, KNOWING THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH AND YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND TALK AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK NEXT TIME AND SAY, NO, THEN I'M, I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING THIS THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN BCI.

IT'S NOT JUST SO CUT AND DRY.

UH, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE? DO WE WANT TO VOTE ON IT? I LOST COUNCILOR ALISON OFF THE SCREEN.

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SO, UM, THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, ALL RIGHT.

I'VE LOST X, SO I NEED TO SEE HIS VOTE.

COMING DOWN.

YOU'RE GOING TO COME TAKE A SEAT THERE.

I JUST STEP AWAY.

OH, OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GONNA DO ROLL CALL, VOTE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE .

WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH, SO I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THE VOTE.

SO THE MOTIONS TO VOTE TO POSTPONE I POSTPONES NATE KEEPS IT ON THE TABLE, MEANING WE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE UP OR DOWN ELLISON ELLISON, MITCHELL COACH MA RIZZO.

HI BRADSHAW.

HI, TIBIAS MOTION TO POSTPONE FAILS.

FOUR TO THREE.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY OUR THREE-THREE ZONING.

IT'S BEEN MOVING THE MAYOR SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLOORS, KALE, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR HOWARD REAL QUICK.

SCOTT, YOU SHOULD BE SCOTT.

YOU CAN PROBABLY ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

WHAT ARE THE RULES FOR CHANGING A ZONING TYPE? IF THE APPLICANT DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, WANTING TO CHANGE IT TO MXD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS WOULD JUST BE A NEW APPLICATION.

IF THERE'S A BRAND NEW APPLICATION IS TO JUST DO THAT MONTHS TO APPLY FOR .

THEY HAVE TO WAIT WHAT THEY COULD BRING IN EXTREMES, RIGHT? YEAH.

THEY GET TO A DIFFERENT ZONE.

GO AHEAD AND APPLY RIGHT NOW.

THOSE ARE THE PROCESS.

NEXT UP.

[20. Third Amendment to the Development Agreement between City of Kyle, Texas and Clayton Properties Group, Inc. DBA Brohn Homes and Amendment to the Development Agreement Between the City of Kyle and Clayton Properties Group, Inc. DBA Brohn Homes. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager]

[21.

[Postponed 3/16/2021] (Second Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) for City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of assigning original zoning to approximately 29.8 acres of land from Agriculture 'AG' to Single Family Residential-3 'R-1-3' for property located southeast of Lehman Road and south of Lehman High School, in Hays County, Texas. (Clayton Properties Group, Inc D/B/A Brohn Homes - Z-21-0070) ~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-1 to approve the request.

City Council voted 6-1 to approve the ordinance on first reading.
]

AGENDA ITEM.

UM, UH, NUMBER 23RD AMENDMENT.

UH, SO 20 AND 21, UH, ARE, UH, RELATED ITEMS. CORRECT.

SCOTT.

SO DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING THEM UP AT THE SAME TIME? YES, SIR.

UH, HAS BEEN IN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES OR TWO DIFFERENT ANNEXATIONS, WHICH MEANS THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

I'M GONNA BRING ITEM NUMBER 20 AND 21 UP AT THE SAME TIME.

UH, I REMEMBER 23RD AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AND CLAYTON PROPERTIES, GROUP DBA, BRAUN HOMES, UH, AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND CLAYTON PROPERTIES GROUP INCLUDE, UH, INCORPORATED DBA BRAUN HOMES, UH, AS WELL AS THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ASSIGNING ORIGINAL ZONING TO APPROXIMATELY 29.8 ACRES OF LAND FROM AG TO SINGLE FAMILY.

, UH, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF LAYMAN ROAD, UH, IN SOUTH OF LAYMAN HIGH SCHOOL AND HAYES COUNTY, UH, PLAYING A ZONING, VOTED FIVE TO ONE TO APPROVE.

UM, IT WAS VOTED SIX TO ONE ON FIRST READING TO APPROVE.

UH, AND AS WE JUST LEARNED HAS BEEN POSTPONED CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

UH, IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU FEEL LIKE GETTING POSTPONED IS THE ONLY THING THAT HAPPENS THERE'S HAPPENING TO YOU ONLY.

IT'S NOT.

SO MR. UH, SELLERS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, UH, SCOTT SILVER CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.

SO AS, AS WAS STATED, UH, THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY COME BEFORE YOU MULTIPLE TIMES IN THESE, THE DEVELOPMENT,

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NUMBER ONE ON THE, THE LARGER PORTION, UH, INCLUDED WHAT WE KNOW AFFECTIONATELY REFERRED TO AS THE, A BUTTON, UH, ROAD OR BUN CREEK ROUNDABOUT.

AND THEN, UH, THERE WERE, UH, THERE WAS A SIDEWALK PORTION AS, AS PART OF THAT FIRST AGREEMENT.

SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU IS THE DEVELOPER IS READY TO MAKE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROUNDABOUT.

NOW YOU HEARD A LITTLE EARLIER, LEON SAID THAT, UH, THE FINAL ENGINEERING HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET.

UH, THAT IS MOSTLY, UH, THE ENGINEERING IS MOSTLY DONE, BUT IT HAS NOT YET HAD ITS FINAL SIGN OFF BY THE CITY STAFF.

SO THAT WAS A CORRECT COMMENT.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE DESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND WE'VE SHARED THAT WITH COUNCIL WE'VE COMPARED THAT WITH THE DESIGN FOR THE, UH, MARKETPLACE ROUNDABOUT OR BURLESON ROUNDABOUT AND IN IT IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY OR SUBSTANTIVELY THE SAME DIAMETER, LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THE INGRESS EGRESS ZONES, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME DIAMETER ROUNDABOUT.

I KNOW A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH THERE RECENTLY IN A FIRE TRUCK OR WITH A TRAILER, UH, TO SEE IF, IF THE, UH, THE DIAMETER WOULD WORK IN, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY CAN SHARE THEIR ANECDOTES ON THAT.

UH, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS IS THE ROUNDABOUT NEEDS TO HAVE A MOUNTABLE APRON.

SO THE, UH, EXISTING STANDUP CURB THAT, THAT CURB, UH, WILL BE TORN OUT FOR A ROLL CURB WITH A NINE AND A HALF FOOT APRON.

AND AGAIN, THE FINAL ENGINEERING THAT WE'LL APPROVE IS JUST TO SEE HOW THE APRON IS GOING TO BE, UH, GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED.

SO THE ADDENDUM BEFORE YOU, IN THAT, THAT FIRST DA IS TO SAY, MOVE FORWARD ON THE ROUNDABOUT, UH, ESCROW, SOME FUNDS FOR THE SIDEWALK, AND THEN WE WILL RELEASE THE BUILDING PERMITS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT FIRST PHASE.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A SECOND DA, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS IN TWO DIFFERENT ANNEXATIONS AND THE ZONING ITEM IS TO SET THE ZONING FOR THE NEXT, UH, FOR, FOR THIS DA NUMBER TWO, UH, THIS INVOLVED, UH, ROUGHLY 30 ACRES OF, OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, AN ISSUE, UH, BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, IS IT'S ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, PROPERTY DILEMMA, HIGH SCHOOL, UH, CERTAIN THINGS ARE ANTICIPATED TO OCCUR, UH, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH CALLS FOR A MORE SIGNIFICANT BUFFER THAN A TRADITIONAL WOODEN FENCE.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS, UH, AN AMENDMENT SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL PUT A MASONRY TYPE FENCE, LIKE A FENCE CRATE, UH, IN BETWEEN, UH, BASED ON THAT, ON THAT EDGE, THAT WESTERN EDGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S THAT AGREEMENT, UH, THE DEVELOPER IS HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, THE EXHIBIT OF THE ROUNDABOUT IS, UH, IS BEING ADDED TO THE EXHIBIT HERE IN, IN THE DA.

UH, EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH BEFORE YOU, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AGAIN, THE DEVELOPERS ARE IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

OR COMMENTS AS I MENTIONED VEGAS? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. SELLERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SELLERS OR THE APPLICANT OR COMMENTARY? YEAH.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, SCOTT, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE UPDATE ON THAT.

UM, ALSO I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT WE, UH, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK FOR LIGHTS, UH, AS A CITY, UM, FIND WAYS TO ELIMINATE THAT AREA WITH THE ROUNDABOUT.

UH, SOME, WE PROBABLY HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE FORESIGHT FOR, BUT NOW THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT, UH, LET'S CONTINUE THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT ALSO, UH, JUST THE DEVELOPER.

UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A PRETTY LONG A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS UP HERE, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THEM RIGHT.

AND, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS ON A PROJECT AND WE JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING RIGHT, AND IT'S NOT ANYTHING AGAINST YOU.

UH, WE, WE HOLD EVERYBODY TO THE SAME STANDARD AND, UH, SOMETIMES AS A CITY WE CAN MESS UP AS WELL.

UM, AND IT WAS ROUNDABOUT HAS BEEN KIND OF A NIGHTMARE FOR ALL OF US AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA.

UH, IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT.

SO THE SOLE BLAME, I THINK SOME OF US CAN PROBABLY TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT AS WELL.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THIS WAS ANYTHING AGAINST YOU.

WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE GOT THIS RIGHT, AND, AND WE COULD MOVE FORWARD.

AND ALSO, UH, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, APPRECIATE YOU, UH, GETTING WITH THEM AND, AND GETTING, UH, THAT, THAT PART OF IT HASHED OUT.

UH, MY SOLE PURPOSE OF, OF GETTING INTO THIS WAS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD.

SO, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

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UM, I'M SURE YOU HAVE MY EMAIL WITH THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL THE DOWN SIGNAGES OUT THERE.

UM, IT'S I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS APPROVED AND EVERYTHING, AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE DEVELOPERS IN THAT SPOT, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST FRUSTRATING FOR ME.

SOMETIMES IT'S WHEN I CAN JUST BARELY GO TO THE STORE AND PEOPLE ARE JUST CONTINUOUSLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT ROUNDABOUT AND THE, UH, OPTICALS OF IT, OF THE DOWN SIGNAGES AND ALL THE DEBRIS THAT'S OUT THERE.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN FINALLY START GETTING ADDRESSED ABOUT, UM, THE WAY IT LOOKS AND THE DIAMETER AND SO FORTH SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO THESE RESIDENTS AGAIN, LET THEM KNOW THAT IT IS FINALLY GOING TO BE WORKED.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S AN EYESORE THAT THEY DRIVE BY EVERY DAY, BUT, UH, IT'S, I'M STILL IN THE PROCESS OF JUST STILL LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING AS HARD AS WE CAN TO GET THIS DONE.

YOU BET.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.

HE'S ALREADY MENTIONED THIS TO ME BEFORE.

UH, HE CAN CORROBORATE, BUT, UH, IF ONCE THE DIAMETER, YOU KNOW, IS, IS CONSTRUCTED, THERE WERE WHOLE ROUNDABOUT, WHAT THE APRON, EVERYTHING IS CONSTRUCTED.

AND WE STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH RUNNING OVER SIGNS WITH CURVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE'LL COME BACK AND ADDRESS THAT AS PART OF LIKE AN INGRESS EGRESS LOOK.

AND WE'VE TALKED WITH, WITH TYLER ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THAT VEHICLES CAN SAFELY AND ACCURATE NOW ACCURATELY NAVIGATE THEIR ROUNDABOUT.

ON THE SIGNAGE, THE SIGNAGE THAT YOU'VE SEEN OUT THERE TODAY IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE CURB THAT NOW WE'LL SHIFT BACK NINE AND A HALF FEET.

ONCE THAT CON IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO SHIFT BACK, BUT WE HAD TO PAY, WE HAD PAPERS IN THERE ORIGINALLY.

NOW IT'S GOING TO BE STAMPED CONCRETE.

SO THOSE, THOSE SIGNS WERE PUT IN TEMPORARY.

SO WE COULD OPEN THE ROAD FOR THE CITY WHILE WE WERE TRYING TO WRAP EVERYTHING.

ACTUALLY, IT WAS WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO WRAP UP THE NORTHERN LEG ON, UM, GO FORTH.

UM, AND THEN FROM A, YOU MENTIONED THE CURB RUN IT OVER TO THE CURB, UNDERSTAND THAT UNDER THIS SCENARIO WITH THE ROLL CURB, PEOPLE ARE GOING, TRUCKS ARE GOING TO GO OVER THE CURB DOWN.

AND THAT'S WHY THE TRUCK APRON IS THERE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO THIS.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE PEOPLE, NOT RUNNING OVER THE MEDIAN.

QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S GOING TO MAKE TRUCKS GO OVER THE MEETING, BUT THAT'S THE INTENT OF, UH, THEY CALL IT A TRUCK APRON IN A MEDIAN.

SO TRUCKS CAN NAVIGATE IT.

I THINK I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF THE BURLESON ROAD.

YOU CAN SEE THE TIRE MARKS WHERE THE TRUCKS ARE GOING THROUGH, AND THAT'S THE INTENT.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THAT MEDIAN STRUCTURE THE WAY IT IS.

AND THEN I JUST SPOKE TO LEON WE'RE.

UM, WE STILL OWE HIM A GEO-TECH REPORT THAT SAYS, OKAY, THE, THE, UH, CONCRETE SEVEN INCHES THICK, THE BASE IS EIGHT INCHES THICK.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH HIM DIRECTLY RIGHT NOW ON THAT, BUT APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL'S WORK.

YOUR STAFF STUFF Y'ALL ARE TOUGH.

APPRECIATE IT WORKS AT WE'RE HAPPY TO GET IT DONE.

IT DOESN'T HELP US TO LET THIS DRAG ON ANY LONGER.

AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME GIVE AND TAKE ON BOTH SIDES.

YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THE DA REGARDING THE FENCE.

YEP.

UH, CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE.

YEP.

ME AND ASHLEY HAD THE HONOR OF GETTING TO RIDE IN THE FIRETRUCK, THE LARGEST ONE THEY HAD HERE IN KYLE.

UM, AND I WAS REALLY PLEASED AND WE RECORDED IT JUST TO BE SURE.

CAUSE I WAS LIKE, LOOK, IF I'M GOING TO SAY YES, I'M GOING TO HAVE IT.

AND SHE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

SHE LIKE RECORDED IT.

SHE'S LIKE, AND IT WAS GOOD.

IT WAS GOOD.

SHE WAS LIKE OUT THE WINDOW.

ARE YOU SURE? I WAS LIKE, DO IT.

I CAN'T, I CAN'T WITH A GOOD CONSCIENCE SAY YES.

SO, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE DONE REALLY WELL.

UM, IT'S BEEN SOME GIVE AND TAKE AND IT'S BEEN, I THINK SOME EMOTIONS OUT THERE AND THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT I AM PLEASED TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE FIXED THE ROUNDABOUT AND THAT, UM, YOU'RE WORKING WITH SCHOOLS.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE CAN ASK FOR REALLY, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE IT.

AND UM, IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT VOTE TONIGHT FOR ME, SO.

YAY.

WOW.

WELL, ON THAT NOTE, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO, TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBER 20 AND 21 AND MAKE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21 CONTINGENT UPON THE EXECUTION OF AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 20, MEANING ZONING COMES ONCE WE SIGNED THE PAPERS ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

ALL RIGHT, HANG ON.

LET'S GET THE VOTE IN.

I UNDERSTAND NOTED THREE OF EACH.

THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOORS OR SECOND, SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE MAYOR SECOND BY A CUSTOMER AND BRADSHAW.

THEY NEED DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

YOU READY TO SIGN? I'M GOING TO FINISH THE MEETING.

GET THAT ROUNDABOUT FIX PLEASE.

MPT.

YOU GO JUMP ON NUMBER 22.

I'LL GO SIGN.

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MAKE HIM HAPPY.

OR IS IT 21? YEAH, 22.

OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTORS, SAMANTHA ARMBRUSTER.

[22. Review and approve updated Communication and Social Media policy. ~ Samantha Armbruster, Director of Communications]

ITEM NUMBER 22.

UH, REVIEW AND APPROVE UPDATED COMMUNICATION AND SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO BEFORE YOU, THIS EVENING ARE POLICIES FOR OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN AND ALSO SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY.

THESE DOCUMENTS ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS MEANT TO BE REVIEWED AND UPDATED AS OFTEN AS NECESSARY.

AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOOK AT THEM IN A WHILE.

SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.

ONE OF THE, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THE EXPLOSION OF SOCIAL MEDIA SINCE WE PASSED OUR LAST COMMUNICATIONS POLICY.

SO WE THOUGHT IN ADDITION TO CREATING A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, WE MIGHT AS WELL TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMMUNICATIONS POLICY THAT WE HAD IN PLACE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS OUR NEEDS.

WE HAVE NEW ASSETS AVAILABLE TO US NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE WHEN THAT POLICY WAS PASSED.

SO WE'VE MADE SURE TO INCORPORATE THOSE.

THE INTENT OF COURSE, IS THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHO DOES WHAT AND WHEN, AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS AND EVEN INTERNAL STAFF GET INFORMATION.

SO IT'S THERE FOR YOUR REVIEW.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL, MEMBER BRADSHAW.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK YOU ARE WONDERFUL AND YOU HAVE DONE SO MANY AMAZING THINGS FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.

I THINK EVERYBODY THERE, THE PEOPLE WHO FELT UNINFORMED DURING THE MOST RECENT EVENT, WHICH WAS THE SNOWPOCALYPSE, I FEEL LIKE THOSE WERE VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN AND YOUR TEAM JUST DID SUCH AN EXCELLENT JOB OF PUSHING OUT THAT LOVE THAT YOU'VE TAKEN IT A STEP FURTHER AND TAKEN THE INITIATIVE TO CREATE THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT ON RECORD.

I KNOW I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, BUT I THINK THAT YOU ARE WONDERFUL AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SECOND.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I STILL GET COLD.

WHEN PEOPLE SAY STOLEN HOPPER CLIPS, IT WAS CRAZY.

I WAS OUT THERE FOR TWO WEEKS, UM, IN ALL THAT CODE.

AND, UH, I STILL GET COLD WHEN I HEAR THAT.

I JUST THINK OF THAT CHILL.

IT'S CRAZY, BUT YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

UM, RELAYING INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

OR THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES IT.

I'LL GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE THAT I SEE AND MEET ON DAILY BASIS AND THEY LOVE THE COMMUNICATION THAT'S COMING OUT OF THE CITY OF KYLE NOW, VERY TRANSPARENT.

AND I CONTINUE.

I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS WAYS WHERE WE CAN PROBABLY BE MORE TRANSPARENT AS TECHNOLOGY COMES FORWARD, BUT YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

SAMANTHA, JUST KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK THEN.

UT THANK YOU.

LAURA'S KALE.

UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION I WANTED TO, UH, WAS THERE ANYTHING MAJOR BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT LIKE A RED LINE, SO I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW, BUT I READ THROUGH IT AND I WAS LIKE, OH, OKAY, WELL, THIS SEEMS PRETTY SIMPLE.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS LIKE ANY MAJOR CHANGES OR IS THIS JUST REGULAR REALLY? IT'S PRETTY STANDARD.

THE ONLY THING THAT IS AN ADDITION TO OUR THINGS LIKE NEXT DOOR, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT EVEN AVAILABLE TO US BEFORE, UM, KYLE TIN, BEFORE IT WAS CONSIDERED JUST THE PEG CHANNEL.

SO NOW IT'S THE KYLE TIN CHANNEL.

SO I WOULDN'T SAY THEY WERE BIG THINGS THAT AND NOTHING.

UM, AND IT WAS REVIEWED OF COURSE BY INTERNAL STAFF AND ALL THE DIRECTORS.

EXCELLENT.

I GOTTA, I GOTTA AGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

KNOW YOU ROCK.

AND JUST TO MAKE SURE, I JUST, AS IF THE LUCKY ONE THAT GETS TO STAY UP LATE WITH YOU GUYS, REALLY, THE MAGIC IS BEHIND THE SCREEN GRANT.

RACHEL, SARAH ZANDER.

THEY'RE DOING ALL THE HARD WORK COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.

DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? I JUST SAW YOUR HAND UP.

I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION.

OH, THANK YOU.

UH, CERTAINLY, UH, SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH, ALL THE KUDOS THAT WERE GIVEN TO OUR COMMUNICATION STAFF, UH, BIG FANS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SINCE WE BOTH SAID THAT, UH, UM, DEPARTMENT, UH, AND I HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM THAT, UH, WAS HELPED BY, UH, YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THEIR SUPPORT AND, AND, AND THE SURVEY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO I'LL ELABORATE ON THAT, BUT GREAT JOB, GREAT, UH, FORWARD THINKING TO BRING THIS FORWARD AND CERTAINLY, UH, AGREE WITH, UH, THE WORK OF, UH, RACHEL AND ZANDER AND SARAH AND GRANT ALL THOSE FOLKS.

UH, CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING.

WE KNOW THAT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, BY OUR STAFF, OUR STAFF TO MAKE US LOOK REALLY GOOD TOO, AS WELL WITH THAT HARD WORK.

SO KUDOS TO THEM.

AND, AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

UH, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM IS WRITTEN.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

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ITEM PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO.

THANK YOU, SMITH.

I'M GONNA USE THE GAMBLE SINCE OUR MARRIAGE.

I USED IT ONCE TODAY.

DID YOU NOT KIND OF HURT MY WRIST WHEN I DID IT ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, UH, DIED DO THAT RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK I DID THAT.

PRESENTATION AND UPDATE ON STATUS MULTI-FAMILY RECYCLING PROGRAM, UH, FOR APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND KYLE COMES FROM ALISON.

UH, NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23,

[23. Presentation and update on status of a Multifamily Recycling Pilot program for apartment complexes in Kyle. ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, SO REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS PRESENTATION FORWARD, UH, TO YOU ALL AND THE PUBLIC.

UM, IT'S, UH, GIVING A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS.

SO, UM, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, I'M A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENT IN THE CITY.

AND, UM, I MAYBE WERE ALSO AWARE THAT, UH, I'M A BIG FAN OF, UH, UM, PRESERVING OUR ENVIRONMENT AND, AND RECYCLING, UH, SERVICES AS WELL.

UH, WE, WE RECENTLY DID A, UH, RENEWAL, UH, NEGOTIATIONS OF OUR CONTRACT WITH TDS AND STAFF IS CURRENTLY, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, FUNNILY, UM, BUTTONING THAT UP AND GETTING THAT DONE.

AND ONE LAST BASIS, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH TDS WITH, AND I'LL MENTION THEM A FEW TIMES THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER, UH, HELPING US WITH THIS IS, UM, THEY'VE BEEN REALLY, UH, WILLING TO STEP FORWARD, UH, TO HELP US ACHIEVE THIS GOAL.

UH, RECYCLING IS A SERVICE THAT IS PROVIDED TO, UH, OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UM, THE OTHER PART OF OUR CITY IS OUR MULTIFAMILY AND YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION, UH, WHY WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, UH, PERSONALLY, UM, I'VE HAD SOME, UH, STRUGGLES WITH, UH, RECYCLING CAPACITIES IN DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, AT MY, MY UNIT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT RECYCLING WASN'T OFFERED AT ALL OF OUR MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY THE CITY.

SO IT'S COMING COMPLETELY UP TO THE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPER TO EITHER HAVE THAT OR NOT BY THEIR CHOICE ALSO, UH, NOT ONLY JUST MY FRUSTRATIONS, BUT OVER THE PAST YEAR, UH, I'VE RECEIVED COMMUNICATION BY EMAIL, PHONE CALL, TEXT MESSAGES IN PERSON CONVERSATIONS OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT, UH, HOW CAN THEY GET RECYCLING AT THEIR MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX IS SOMETHING THEY GREATLY DESIRED, UH, WHETHER THEY WERE LONGTIME RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY, UH, AND IT MOVED INTO MULTI-FAMILY WHERE THEY DID HAVE RECYCLING, UM, OR THEY HAVE MOVED TO OUR CITY AND FROM OTHER CITIES THAT DID HAVE THAT SERVICE AS WELL AND MULTIFAMILY.

SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME INFORMATION AND SOME DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

AND WE, I HAVE TO SAY JERRY HENDRIX, UH, I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HIM AT THE END, BUT HE DID A GREAT JOB PUTTING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER AND WE'D LIKE TO TEAM UP TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

SO, UH, OUR PURPOSE STATEMENT HERE IS TO ALLOW KYLE RESIDENTS LIVING IN APARTMENTS TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO RECYCLE AS RESIDENTS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AND JERRY WILL EXPLAIN THE WHY.

SO WHY YOU MAY ASK? WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY ONE IS JUST IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, OUR POPULATION OF PEOPLE LIVING IN APARTMENTS AND FILE HAS DOUBLED, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO SLOW DOWN.

IF I'M CURRENTLY, WE HAVE ALMOST 3000 APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE CITY OR APARTMENT UNITS IN THE CITY.

IF YOU USE OUR REGULAR POPULATION ESTIMATE CALCULATOR TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN THOSE APARTMENTS.

IT'S ABOUT 7,000 PEOPLE RIGHT NOW LIVE IN APARTMENTS IN THE CITY OF KYLE, SORRY, 15 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND IT DOESN'T GO AWAY AFTER 15 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF KYLE.

SO KYLE CURRENTLY HAS ALMOST 600 UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OPENED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, ANOTHER 822 UNITS.

SO YOU ADD YOUR 2.5, A PERSON PER UNIT CALCULATOR ONTO THAT.

THAT'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE.

AND CURRENTLY ONLY HALF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS IN KYLE OFF OF RECYCLING.

SO THAT'S WHY A COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, UH, CAME FORWARD AND WANTED TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE RECYCLING AND AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY IN KYLE, NOT JUST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, EX PAGER, UH, NEXT WE'RE OUR ACTION STEPS.

SO WE SAW, UH, THAT THERE WAS A GAP IN SERVICES BEING PROVIDED TO, UH,

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MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND SO, UM, I APPROACHED, UH, JERRY ABOUT THIS AND, UM, HE, HE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH ME.

AND SO, UH, HE DID PUT ACTION STEPS AS COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.

UM, BUT I, I, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY, OBVIOUSLY I BRETT BROUGHT THAT TO ATTENTION, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT JERRY, AS HE POINTED OUT IN HIS PREVIOUS SLIDE, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALSO COMING TO HIS ATTENTION AS WELL, THAT, UH, THIS WAS A NEED.

AND SO I APPRECIATE JARED'S, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF THAT NEXT WE HAVE, UH, TELEPHONE DISCUSSIONS WITH PROPERTY MANAGERS, BULK OF THAT WAS DONE IN LARGE PART WITH, UH, BY JERRY HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, REACHING OUT ALL 14 OF OUR APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, PROPERTY MANAGERS TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THEIR RECYCLING SERVICES WERE AT, UH, THEIR DESIRE TO, UH, EITHER IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT, BRING THAT TO THEIR COMPLEX OR IF THEY DID, THEY'RE JUST, UH, HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THE SERVICE WAS BEING PROVIDED.

AND IF PERHAPS CAPACITY, UH, COULD BE INCREASED IF NEEDED, UH, NEXT WE'RE, UH, RINGCENTRAL MEETINGS WITH PROPERTY MANAGERS, UH, JERRY AND I HAD A RINGCENTRAL MEETING, UH, WITH A COUPLE OF PROPERTY MANAGERS THAT ALL OF THEM GOT THE INVITE.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF THEM, UH, SHOW, OH, WE HAD A GREAT SHOWING FROM TDS AS WELL AS A PART OF THAT RINGCENTRAL MEETING.

AND WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR PROPERTY MANAGERS THAT DID PARTICIPATE.

I WILL SAY THEY WERE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC AND GREAT, UH, PARTICIPANTS IN THOSE MEETINGS, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF SURVEYS FOR PROPERTY MANAGERS AND RESIDENTS.

SOME OF YOU ALL MIGHT'VE SEEN, UM, WE HAD THE SURVEY OUT FOR AWHILE AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM, BUT WE WEREN'T GETTING MUCH RESPONSE FROM OUR SURVEYS EITHER FROM THE PROPERTY MANAGERS OR RESIDENTS.

HOWEVER, I KNEW THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WELL, LIKE I SAID, I HAD BEEN REACHED OUT TO PERSONALLY, UH, FROM VARIOUS RESIDENTS THAT LIVED IN MULTIFAMILY ASKING ABOUT THIS.

SO I KNEW THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN AND A DESIRE FOR IT.

AND SO, UH, JERRY HAD THE GREAT IDEA OF TEAMING UP WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.

UM, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT PUT, UH, PUT UP A GREAT POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND OUR, OUR SURVEY RESPONDENTS, UH, QUICKLY SHOWED UP WITH THAT.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK, UH, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT FOR HELP.

JUST LIKE DAD DECKS THAT WHEN THE PROPERTY MANAGERS DIDN'T RESPOND TO THE SURVEY WE SENT TO THEM DECKS AND I WENT TO THE PROPERTY MANAGERS AND FILLED IT OUT IN FRONT OF THEM.

THAT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PROPERTY MANAGERS IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND I WILL, I NEED TO BE FAIR AS WELL TO THE PROPERTY MANAGER AS WELL, BUT TO JERRY'S POINT, THERE WAS A LOT ON THEIR PLATE FROM THE FEBRUARY SNOW STORM AND EVERYTHING GOING ON.

UH, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT JERRY AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, BECAUSE WE SPENT AN ENTIRE DAY, WE ACTUALLY DID A PRETTY, UH, PRETTY QUICK, BUT IT WAS, IT TOOK UP MOST OF OUR DAY.

UH, JERRY AND I WENT AND VISITED ALL 14 DEPARTMENT COMPLEXES AND HAD A SIT DOWN CONVERSATION WITH PROBABLY 11 OR 12 OF THEM.

UM, AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE THERE AND IN FRONT OF THEM AND NOT SEEING AN EMAIL, BUT THEY SEEM VERY OPEN TO AND SUPPORTIVE.

THEY, UH, THE ONES THAT WERE ALREADY PARTICIPATING IN WITH IT, THEY WERE EXCITED, UM, ABOUT, UH, UH, PARTICULARLY FURTHER EDUCATION OF THEIR RESIDENTS.

CAUSE THAT'S BEEN ANOTHER KEY PART OF IT.

AND WE'LL PROBABLY TOUCH ON THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'LL UM, IS JUST THE EDUCATION PIECE OF IT, OF THOSE APARTMENTS THAT DO HAVE RECYCLING.

A LOT OF THE TIMES, UH, THERE IS, UH, CONTAMINATION AND PROPER RECYCLING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A PROPER EDUCATION OF WHAT CAN BE RECYCLED IN THE PARTICULAR, UH, CONTAINERS THAT ARE PROVIDED FROM TDS.

UH, BUT WE, WE SPENT THE DAY, UH, VISITING WITH THOSE PROPERTY MANAGERS GOT SOME, UH, SOME GOOD FEEDBACK, HAD SOME, SOME WERE SHORTER CONVERSATIONS.

SOME WERE LONGER.

SOME WERE PARTICULARLY WITH THE ONES THAT DIDN'T OFFER RECYCLING.

THEY GAVE US GREAT FEEDBACK ABOUT THEIR PAIN POINTS AND SOME OF THE STRUGGLES HAD, AND THAT WAS REALLY THE APPROACH THAT JERRY AND I TOOK INITIALLY WITH THIS WAS THAT WE WANTED TO DO A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH, NOT A HEAVY HANDED.

ONE OF JUST WHERE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO DO THIS.

WE WANTED TO GET THE FEEDBACK AND COLLABORATION WITH OUR PROPERTY MANAGER.

NOW I WILL GIVE KUDOS TO THOSE THAT DEFINITELY DID IT.

THEIR NAMES ARE ESCAPING ME RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, SOME OF THE OTHERS ONES WERE A LITTLE LESS RESPONSIVE, UM, FOR WHAT REASONS, I'M NOT SURE, BUT UH, CERTAINLY HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS IN PERSON, WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK SO WE CAN BEST UNDERSTAND THOSE NEEDS AND, AND, AND, AND, UH, DIFFICULTIES THAT THEY WERE HAVING, WHETHER THEY HAD RECYCLING.

CAUSE WE, WE RAN ACROSS A NUMBER OF THEM THAT USED TO HAVE RECYCLING AND THEN GOT RID OF IT.

SO WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CHALLENGES WERE AND HOW WE AS A CITY COULD HELP THEM AS WELL AS THE PARTNERSHIP WITH TDS.

I JUST WANT TO ADD IN DEFENSE OF THE PROPERTY MANAGERS, THEY'RE STILL DEALING A LOT WITH, UH, THE SNOW, SNOW POP CLIPS, WHATEVER, I CAN'T PRONOUNCE IT, BUT, BUT, BUT THEY HAD, THEY WERE, THEY HAD A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON THEIR PLATE OTHER THAN FILLING OUT OUR SURVEY, BUT IT, IT TURNED OUT TO BE A REAL ASSET FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM IN PERSON INDEX.

DID YOU SAY THAT YOU TALKED TO THEM AND THEY HAD REASONS FOR WHY THEY STOPPED DOING RECYCLING? LIKE THEY HAD BEEN DOING IT AND THEN THEY STOPPED AND THEY GAVE YOU REASONS FOR WHY IS

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UH, BUT YEAH, THEY DID GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK, UH, ON THOSE VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.

WHAT, WHAT DID THEY SAY? WHY DID THEY STOP OFFERING IT? DID YOU GET ANY FEEDBACK FOR SOMEONE WHO SAID WHY? LIKE IT WAS LIKE ECONOMICS OR IT WAS MOSTLY, UM, PARTICIPATION AND BEING ABLE TO ADEQUATELY CONTROL CONTAMINATION AND, UH, LITTER THAT COMES WITH, UM, THAT KIND OF PROCESS.

AND THAT, THAT GOES BACK TO THAT EDUCATION PIECE.

THAT SINGLE FAMILY ALSO HERE.

IT'S ALL OF US.

YEAH, YEAH.

THAT THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

ON THE PROPERTY ON, IF YOU ADD RECYCLING ON HERE IN YOUR APARTMENT COMPLEX, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE RECYCLING? AND YOU CAN SEE THEY DO.

BUT YEAH, SO IT WAS A LOT OF THAT.

AND SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT HAPPENED.

SO WE, UH, WE GET THOSE EMAILS FROM THE PROPERTY MANAGERS ABOUT ALMOST ON A MONTHLY BASIS, UH, STATING THAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN, UH, PUTTING IN PROPER MATERIALS AND THE RECYCLING BINS, UH, PIZZA BOXES ARE COMMON, WHICH ARE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, NO RECYCLING OF THOSE PIZZA BOXES, THAT CONTAMINATION, UH, VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE, UH, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS TOO.

A RECYCLING BEING IN PLASTIC BAGS, THOSE PLASTIC BAGS CAN'T BE RECYCLED.

SO THEY HAVE TO BE EMPTIED THE CONTENTS OF THAT AND JUST DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK IT WAS JUST CREATING A CHALLENGE FOR THOSE PROPERTY MANAGERS AND OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF, AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY GETTING PROBABLY SOME, UH, FEEDBACK TDS.

AND SO THEY DECIDED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WASH THEIR HANDS OF IT, UH, BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY FELT A LITTLE ALONE AND NOT ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ALLEVIATE THAT PROBLEM OTHER THAN JUST GET RID OF GETTING RID OF RECYCLING.

BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A, EITHER, UH, A LARGE COST ISSUE OR A, UM, UH, A LACK OF DESIRE BY THE PROPERTY MANAGERS, UM, UH, TO, TO OFFER THE SERVICE.

AND THEY DEFINITELY, EVEN THE ONES THAT WERE NOT TOO THRILLED ABOUT OFFERING THE SERVICE BECAUSE IT PUT MORE ON THEIR PLATE.

AND WE HAD SOME THAT WERE VERY CANDID ABOUT THAT, UH, THAT THEY WERE HAPPY TO HAVE IT OFF THEIR PLATE BECAUSE IT'S JUST ONE LESS THING THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH.

UH, THEY, THEY DID ADMIT THOUGH THAT THEIR RESIDENTS HAVE COMMUNICATED ABOUT THE DESIRE FOR A DELIVERY OF SURVEYS AND SUBSEQUENT ANALYSIS.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME DATA TO PROVIDE TO Y'ALL HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.

AND THEN, UH, NOW WE ARE HERE AT THE COUNCIL PRESENTATION TO HOPEFULLY GET THE BLESSING OF THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD, SURVEY RESULTS.

JERRY WANT TO TAKE IT ALL RIGHT.

SO, SO WE SENT OUT A SURVEY, IT WAS, UM, PEOPLE CAME INTO OUR WEBSITE, THE QUESTIONS WERE OUT THERE.

THEY FILLED THEM OUT.

WE HAD ABOUT 250 RESPONSES, I'LL SAY RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S NOT A SCIENTIFICALLY VALID SURVEY AND THE NUMBERS DON'T ALWAYS ADD UP, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY VALID INFORMATION HERE.

SO THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, DOES YOUR APARTMENT CURRENTLY RECYCLED? AND THE SURVEY SAYS, UH, THE BIGGEST RESPONSE WE HAVE WAS, UH, ALMOST 200 SAID, NO, MY APARTMENT DOESN'T RECYCLE.

AND 51 SAID, YES, MY APARTMENT DOES, WHICH TELLS ME AND TELLS US THAT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO RECYCLING ARE THE ONES THAT WERE REALLY MOTIVATED THE COMPLETE SURVEY THAT THEY REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO RECYCLE.

THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, IF YOU ANSWERED YES TO THE SURVEY, HOW WOULD YOU RATE THE SERVICE? AND MOST PEOPLE RATED THE SERVICE AT LEAST AVERAGE.

UM, AND A LOT OF THEM, UM, SAID SERVICE WAS ACTUALLY EXCELLENT.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE PLACES THAT ARE RECYCLING ARE, UM, GETTING IT RIGHT BY THE RESIDENTS.

THE NEXT QUESTION WAS WHY MATERIALS ARE ABLE TO RECYCLE THAT ACROSS THE BOARD WAS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO RECYCLE.

AND THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WAS THAT THERE'S THIS THING CALLED VALET SERVICE NOW FOR GARBAGE AND RECYCLING APARTMENT COMPLEX IS WHEN I LIVED IN AN APARTMENT THREE DECADES AGO, UM, YOU HAD TO CARRY DOWN THE STAIRS HERSELF AND HOW THAT APPARENTLY DO IT FOR YOU.

SO, UM, MOST PLACES SAID THAT DID NOT HAVE VALET SERVICE THERE, MOST OF THE RESPONDENTS, BUT ALSO THOSE RESPONDENTS ARE PROBABLY ALONG THE SAME LINES WITH PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE RECYCLING IN THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEX.

SO THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND VALET SERVICE IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT REALLY HARD AND POTENTIAL PILOT PROGRAMS, BECAUSE ONE HAND IT CAN BE VERY EXPENSIVE TO PROVIDE THAT INDIVIDUAL TO GO AND COLLECT FROM, FROM YOUR PORCH, OR MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CURRENTLY.

IT IS THAT, UH, THE OTHER, THE BENEFIT OF VALET SERVICE, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO CONTAMINATION IS THE VALET CAN BE TRAINED ON HOW TO RECOGNIZE WHAT GOES IN THE RECYCLING AND WHAT DOESN'T.

SO IT'D HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON REDUCING CONTAMINATION.

IF YOU ANSWERED NO

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I DON'T KNOW WHO THE 12 ARE, THE DON'T, THEY WOULDN'T BE INVITED TO THE RECYCLING PARTY.

THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY ADDITIONAL RENT TO BE ABLE TO RECYCLE NOW, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ANSWER FOR THIS PART OF, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PILOTS IS WE WANT TO TEST.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DIVERT GARBAGE INTO A RECYCLING STREAM, THE, THE RATE AND THE TDS CONTRACT FOR RECYCLING DUMPSTER IS THE SAME AS THE RATE FOR A GARBAGE DUMPSTER.

SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO DIVERT ONE DUMPSTER OF GARBAGE INTO A DUMPSTER OF RECYCLING, THE NET COST TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEX SHOULD BE ZERO.

IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN BEING ABLE TO PULL THAT OFF.

BUT SINCE IT'S NOT ALWAYS LIKE YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY EXTRA AND AS KIND OF HALF AND HALF, BUT THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, IF YOU WERE TO PAY HOW MUCH MORTGAGE YOU STOMACH, AND, UM, OVER HALF PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE SAID THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY UP TO FIVE BUCKS ADDITIONAL TO FOR RECYCLING AND ANOTHER THIRD OR ALMOST THIRD SET UP TO SEVEN DECK SAID HE WOULD PAY 30.

SO THE NEXT QUESTION IS, IS THERE SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO RECYCLE THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY OFFERED? I JUST PUT A SAMPLING OF THE FREE COMMENTS IN HERE.

SOME OF THEM ARE QUITE FUNNY THAT, UM, TYPICAL, AND IT JUST KIND OF SPEAKS ALSO TO THE NEED FOR EDUCATION, NOT ONLY IN THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM, BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE MULTIFAMILY REALM, A LOT OF THINGS THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO RECYCLE, THEY CAN RECYCLE IF IT'S OFFERED IN THEIR APARTMENT, GLASS, CARDBOARD, COMPOST IS NOT.

UM, BUT THINGS LIKE BATTERIES AND AUTOMOTIVE FLUIDS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, SAN MARCUS FACILITY THERE TO TAKE THOSE TYPE OF HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS TO THEM TO BE, TO BE TAKEN CARE OF PROPERLY AND REAL QUICK ON THAT ONE.

JERRY, COULD YOU GO BACK? UH, SO WHY WOULD WE HAVE AUTOMOBILE FLUIDS IN APARTMENTS COMPLEXES? I'M SURE THEY DO.

OR ARE THEY ALLOWED OUT VEHICLES? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO CHANGE OIL IN THEIR APARTMENTS? UH, ONE REASON IS I'M THINKING THERE'S A SPILL TO RUN OFF, UM, FROM, THAT WOULD GO INTO OUR STREAMS AND IT'S JUST NOT SAFE.

I'VE NEVER GIVEN ANY THOUGHT REALLY? NO, JUST, I JUST WONDERING IF WE ALLOWED THAT AS A CITY THAT I WASN'T SAYING, JERRY DID IT, I'M JUST SAYING, RIGHT.

SO I CAN SEE KEEPING, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR CAR BURNS OIL, I CAN SEE YOU KEEPING SOME OIL AROUND OR SOME POWER STEERING FLUID.

SO YEAH.

BUT ANYWAY, THEY ASKED TO BE ABLE TO RECYCLE THAT.

SO PUT IT IN HERE AND, UM, THEY WANTED TO RECYCLE FURNITURE.

THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM.

A LOT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX MANAGERS, PROPERTY MANAGERS TOLD US ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF EVERY MONTH, WHEN THE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT, IT'S LIKE A GARAGE SALE OUT BY THE DUMPSTERS WITH ALL THE STUFF THAT ENDS UP THERE.

SO BACK WHEN I LIVED IN AN APARTMENT AS ALWAYS GETS GREAT STUFF BY THE DUMPSTER AT THE END OF THE MONTH, BUT, BUT FOR THEM, IT'S A, IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT CREATES LITTER.

IT IMPEDES ACCESS TO THE DUMPSTER FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GET THERE LEGITIMATELY, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY TO CLEAN IT UP.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT IN THIS PHASE OF OUR PILOT PROGRAM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AS WE CONTINUE OUT TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM WITH THAT BECAUSE OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS GET TO TWICE A YEAR, ALL CAN BRUSH AND, AND WE'LL FIGURE IF WE CAN WORK AWAY TO PROVIDE THAT TO THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

SO JUST REAL QUICK, JERRY ALSO, WE, UH, ARE, UH, RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE WILL HAVE THEIR OWN WATER METER.

ALSO GET TO DUMP A TRUCKLOAD OF, UH, GARBAGE ONCE THE, UH, ONCE A MONTH AT TDS FOR FREE.

THERE'S A WAY TO IMPLEMENT THAT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY MIGHT BE A WAY WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AND FIND A WAY TO, TO, TO ALLOW THEM TO DO THE SAME WOULD PROBABLY BE A ROAD.

WE COULD PROBABLY EXPLORE IT.

THAT'S BUILT INTO THE COST STRUCTURE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO WE'D HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT WITH TDS AND PILOT MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT.

BECAUSE A MULTIFAMILY IS CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME ABILITY TO DO THAT.

THEY'RE COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THEY'RE SERVICED BY DUMPSTERS.

BUT I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOK AT IS THE WAY TO TREAT THEM DIFFERENTLY.

AND I JUST PUT THIS LAST, THE SECOND COMMENT HERE, THEN WE HAVE SO MUCH TRASH BECAUSE OF IT SUCH, HE ACTUALLY WROTE INTO THE SURVEY AND THEN PLASTIC IS A HUGE THING,

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GLASS AND ALUMINUM TOO.

AND ALL THOSE ARE CURRENTLY RECYCLABLE DECKS.

YOU WANT TO TAKE NEXT STEPS.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, SO YEAH.

UM, CERTAINLY GOOD QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MADE A POINT OF CLARITY AS WELL.

BUT YEAH, THE, UH, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT WERE STATED, INCLUDING THE AUTOMOBILE FLUIDS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GUY THAT I LIVE NEXT TO, HE CHANGES HIS OWN OIL.

HE HAS HIS PAN OUT THERE AND HE DOES HIS THING.

HE'S VERY RESPONSIBLE.

IT SAME AS WE WOULD EXPECT FROM A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, OCCUPANT TO DO THE SAME, YOU KNOW, THE ORAL COULD HAVE THAT SAME TYPE OF SPILL.

SO JUST, UH, LIVING IN A MORE DENSE AREA, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE DIFFERENCE.

AND ESSENTIALLY, I GUESS WE DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY EITHER.

UM, THE NEXT STEPS HERE, UH, WOULD BE THE PILOT PROGRAM.

UH, SO WE HAVE, UH, PRIMARILY JERRY HAS BEEN SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH TDS AND, UH, THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP OF DOING A PILOT PROGRAM TO KIND OF ASSESS THE NEED BEFORE WE TOOK EVEN FURTHER STEPS.

AND SO WE, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WITH THE PILOT PROGRAM, UH, THAT THERE'D BE A TOTAL OF FOUR COMPLEXES, TWO THAT DO NOT CURRENTLY RECYCLE AND TWO DEBT DO RECYCLE.

SO WE HOPE TO, UH, BY HAVING A COUPLE EXAMPLES OF EACH REALLY DETERMINED, UH, THINGS FOR BOTH FACETS OF WHERE WE ARE, OBVIOUSLY HALF OF OUR APARTMENTS RIGHT NOW DO RECYCLE AND HALF DOME.

SO WE WANT TO GET AN IDEA OF THAT.

SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THE RECYCLING, UH, APARTMENTS THAT DO NOT HAVE IT, UH, GETTING THEM ON BOARD, FIGURING OUT SPACING OF WHERE WITH THE CONTAINERS, UM, GETTING THAT PROGRAM STARTED VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THE ONES THAT DO HAVE RECYCLING, MAYBE IT'S, UH, EVEN HEAVIER ON THE EDUCATION EDUCATION SHOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT HEAVIER ON THE EDUCATION TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE PROPERLY RECYCLING, RECYCLING THE MATERIALS, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, CAPACITY, MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF CAPACITY.

THAT WAS ANOTHER ISSUE, UH, THAT WE'VE WE'VE COME ACROSS IS, UH, RECYCLING IS TAKEN EVERY TWO WEEKS OF COURSE.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THE ONES THAT DO HAVE THE, UM, RECYCLING, THEY HAVE THE FOUR 96 GALLON CONTAINERS AT THE LARGER DUMP, UH, THE, THE LARGER TRASH DOWN THERE ON SITE, BUT THOSE THINGS FILL UP SO QUICKLY.

UH, IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, WHICH YOU'RE RECYCLING WITHIN THE COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER GDS COMES BY TO PICK UP RECYCLING, YOU'RE PROBABLY HOLDING ON YOUR RECYCLING FOR, UNTIL THE NEXT GO ROUND.

SO JUST DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT TO UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT THOSE CHALLENGES ARE.

AND HOPEFULLY THROUGH THIS PILOT PROGRAM, FIGURING THAT OUT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

OUR NEXT ITEM, UH, TDS IS WORKING WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, I CAN NOT THINK TDS ENOUGH FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO COME TO THE TABLE AND HELP US RESOLVE THIS.

THEY WERE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ON THE CALLS, HAD A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK AND A LOT OF GREAT THOUGHTS.

UM, THEY HAVE ONE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL.

HE IS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE EDUCATION PIECE PART OF IT BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND AS WELL THAT THAT'S A LARGE PART OF THIS.

WE CAN DO RECYCLING TOO.

WE'RE BLUE IN THE FACE, BUT IF IT'S NOT BEING PROPERLY DONE, WE'RE REALLY NOT ACHIEVING THE GOALS THAT WE WANT.

SO GETTING THAT EDUCATION PIECE, UH, IS A LARGE PART OF THAT.

I KNOW FROM OUR 96 GALLON CONTAINERS, THE TOP HAS TYPICALLY WHAT YOU CAN RECYCLE, BUT IT'S BEEN WEATHERED AND FADED AWAY, YOU KNOW? SO WE WERE THINKING ABOUT MORE OPTIONS FOR EDUCATION PIECES IN THEIR HOMES THAT THEY CAN PUT ON THEIR FRIDGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT IT'S MORE READILY AVAILABLE IN A REMINDER OF WHAT PROPER RECYCLING YEAH.

AND TDS BRINGS THE HOUSE WHEN THEY, THEY COME TO THESE MEETINGS.

IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, RAY IT'S RAY AND THEY'RE THEIR COMMUNICATIONS PERSON, THEIR MARKETING PERSON, THEIR OPERATIONS PEOPLE.

THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE SIX OR SEVEN OR EIGHT OF TDS PERSONNEL ON THESE CALLS COVERING DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PROGRAM.

SO, SO THEY'RE ENGAGED AND THEY'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING THIS WORK.

ALSO, CAN I STATE, UM, IF YOU GET THEIR APP OR IF YOU GO ONLINE, IF YOU PUT IN THERE, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO LIKE THROW AWAY OR RECYCLE, THEY'LL TELL YOU WHERE IT GOES.

THE CITY MAKING, MAYBE MAKING A DECISION THAT THEY WON'T HAVE IT.

WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INCORPORATE A SIMILAR APP FOR MULTI-FAMILY AT SOME POINT AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, NEXT STEPS AS WELL.

SO AFTER THE PILOT PROGRAM, GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF, OF THOSE NEEDS AND PAIN POINTS AND HOW TO BEST HELP OUR MULTIFAMILY COMP COMPLEXES NAVIGATE THOSE, UM, POTENTIALLY MOVING INTO A MULTIFAMILY RECYCLING ORDINANCE TO THEREFORE REQUIRE A MULTI, UH, FAMILY TO HAVE RECYCLING THE EXISTING ONES AS WELL AS ONES THAT ARE BEING BOUGHT ONLINE.

I KNOW, UH, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY THAT IS COMING, UH, THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE REPEATED AND THEY BROUGHT UP IS MAKE SURE THEY'RE ON BOARD, UH, WITH RECYCLING, FROM THE GET GO.

SO THEY'RE NOT COMING INTO

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THE EXPECTATION IS THE CITY IS GOING TOWARDS THAT GOAL.

AND THROUGH THE ORDINANCE ALSO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CREATE SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE STANDARDIZED PROCESS ACROSS THE BOARD AND HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, MAKE SURE THEY'RE ALL GETTING THE SAME SERVICE AND THEN, UH, FINALLY, UH, PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION THERE.

UM, ONCE WE HAVE THAT AND CERTAINLY, UH, IT IS NO CHALLENGE.

JERRY COULD PROBABLY TESTIFY TO THIS EVEN BETTER.

UH, HE DID DO HIS RESEARCH.

HE HAS HISTORY OF WORKING WITH RECYCLING AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, HE'S HAD SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF OUR SISTER CITIES IN THE AREA AND, UH, GETTING AN IDEA OF THE CHALLENGES.

SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO MEASURE AS MANY TIMES AS WE CAN AND TRY AND INCLUDE AS MANY OF THE PARTIES THAT WILL BE IMPACTED AS WE CAN TO HOPEFULLY COME, UH, FORWARD WITH SOME, UH, SOLUTIONS THAT EVERYBODY WHO WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS ARE A PART OF IT.

UM, UM, INVEST, MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, AS WELL AS, UH, HELPING THEM NAVIGATE ANY, UH, PAIN POINTS.

THEY MAY HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE.

AND IF FOR NO OTHER REASON TO RECYCLE JUST MAKES YOU FEEL AWESOME.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AND I ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

UH, THANK YOU, JERRY.

COUNCILOR ELLISON.

W THE ONLY QUESTION IS, DO YOU, DO YOU ACTUALLY WANT OFFICIAL DIRECTION FROM US? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB HERE, SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO IT UNLESS YOU TELL US NOT TO GO FORTH.

AND CONGRESS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.

THANK YOU, COUNCILOR ELLISON FOR WORKING ON.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I LOVE YOUR PASSION WHEN IT COMES TO RECYCLING, KEEPING THE ENVIRONMENT SAFE, UH, FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

BOTH OF YOU.

UM, I THINK THIS IS JUST A WIN-WIN FOR OUR CITY AND FOR OUR CITIZENS, EVEN IN THE FUTURE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK, BECAUSE I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT COUNCIL.

I WANT TO GIVE A HUGE THANKS AND APPRECIATION TO JERRY HENDRIX.

HE'S LIFTED THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS.

OBVIOUSLY HE UNDERSTANDS MY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AS WELL.

AND MY CONCERN FOR THE JERRY HAS HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THIS, UH, NOT ONLY PUTTING THIS GREAT PRESENCE TODAY, OCCASION TOGETHER AND INCLUDING A MEME, WHICH I'M ALWAYS A FAN FAN OF, BUT THE, THE TIME AND CONVERSATIONS AND HIS BREADTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE FROM HIS PREVIOUS WORK AS WELL HAS BEEN INVALUABLE, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

AND, UH, SO I, I CAN NOT THANK JERRY ENOUGH.

IT WAS REALLY A DELIGHT TO WORK WITH JERRY ON ANY PROJECT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, COUNSELOR, IF YOU EVER HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WHEREVER JERRY HENDRICKS, IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS TRULY A PLEASURE.

AND, UH, HE HAS BEEN JUST AN ABSOLUTE ROCK STAR.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HIM HIS PUBLIC KUDOS ABOUT THAT, AND MY SINCERE APPRECIATION TO TEXAS, KIND OF A FUN RUNNING MATE, TOO.

UH, ANYTHING ELSE OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

[24. A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas, Accepting the Petition for Annexation of 25.2 Acres, More or Less, of Land Located in Hays County, Texas; Setting an Annexation Schedule; Providing for Open Meetings and Other Related Matters. ~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development]

NEXT UP, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF CONTEXT IS ACCEPTING THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION OF 25.2 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS SETTING IN AN ANNEXATION SCHEDULE PROVIDING FOR OPEN MEETING AND OTHER RELATED MATTERS.

UH, THIS IS MR. COON'S ITEM.

UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF HOWARD'S READY TO PRESENT, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY ANNEXATION OF THE JAMESON PROPERTY.

THE ONLY CLARIFYING QUESTION I THINK WE WERE GOING TO NEED IS, IS IT THAT ENTIRE PARCEL, THE PARENT TRACK THAT IS BEING THAT, OR ARE THEY ASKING TO ONLY ANNEX THE ONE ACRES? BECAUSE THE TITLE SAYS 25.2, BUT THE STAFF MEMOED KIND OF PUSHES IT MORE TOWARDS THE, JUST THE LITTLE RED SPOT, JUST THE BASEBALL COMPLEX PIECE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IF, UM, TO, TO, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S THE 25.2, UH, THE 1.105 ACRES IS A DEVELOPMENT SITE.

CURRENTLY.

THAT'S WHERE THE BATTING CAGES WILL GO.

BUT BECAUSE THAT IS BEING SUBDIVIDED AWAY FROM THE PARENT PARCEL, WE HAVE MADE THE PARENT OWNERSHIP AWARE THAT THE ENTIRETY OF THAT PARCEL AS PLANTED WILL BE, UH, BROUGHT INTO THE CITY AS A FUNCTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MINOR PARCEL THAT'S BEING SUBDIVIDED AWAY.

SO AS YOU STATED, THIS IS A MINISTERIAL FUNCTION, UH, THAT THE, THE CITY WILL COMPLETE.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A PART OF AN EARLIER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, CHAPTER 43, NANEX I'M SORRY, NOT DEVELOPMENT, NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT.

UM, THAT STATED THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE ABLE TO STAY IN THE COUNTY UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT IT WAS DEVELOPED, UH, THROUGH SOME DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, THIS, THIS SUBDIVISION.

HOWARD, DID YOU SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT? WHO'S WANTING TO DO THIS.

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I'M SORRY.

SAY THAT AGAIN.

WHO HAS SPOKEN TO THE APPLICANT? BECAUSE THE READING OF IT, THE CITY PLANNER WILL, WILL AT KUNSAN HAD, UH, SENT NOTIFICATION TO, UM, BOTH THE, THE DEVELOPER AND THE JANSSENS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE OVERALL PARENT PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT THIS WOULD BE THE RESULT CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE PARCEL OF LAND THAT'S BEING REQUESTED FOR ANNEXATION.

I AM.

SO BECAUSE HE READS THE SITE ASSOCIATED WITH THE NON ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 25.2 ACRES WITH 1.105 ACRES TO BE SUBDIVIDED OUT FOR THE LARGER PARCEL AND O OR MAYBE IT'S FURTHER DOWN.

I JUST READ SOMEWHERE AND I READ IT LIKE THREE TIMES IN A ROW.

HERE'S AN ATTACHMENT THAT SPECIFICALLY SAYS 1.1 ACRE OUT OF TWO, 5.2 ACRES.

SO IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, IT SAYS UNDER PROPERTY, 1.105 ACRES OUT OF THE JOHN STEWART LEAGUE, ABSTRACT NUMBER 14, AND HE'S COUNTY, COMMON, TEXAS, SAME BEING OUT OF THAT CERTAIN 38.9 ACRE TRACT CONVEYED TO PEGGY LAYMAN JANSEN AND THE WARRANTY DEED RECORDED IN THE INSTRUCTION.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT REALLY IS THE 1.105.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD SAY OUT OF THIS, THIS WAS FILED.

THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TO, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE ASKING ME RUNS COUNTER TO MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TONIGHT'S PETITION WAS FOR THAT.

IT WAS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PARCEL.

I THOUGHT WE'D SPOKEN ABOUT THIS WITH LEGAL, AND I THOUGHT I'D BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS BY THE CITY PLANNER, BUT, UM, I'M TRYING TO SEE, SO THIS IS THE REQUEST AND PETITION TO THE CITY.

AND IN IT, IT READS THAT ALL CERTAIN LAND BEING 25.2 ACRES, UH, SECTION TWO ANNEXATION, SECTION THREE, HOWARD, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING, IF I MIGHT, UH, JAMES AARP ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, PART OF THE ISSUE IS BECAUSE THE JANSSEN PROPERTY WAS UNDER A NON-EXTRACTION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THE TRIGGERS ARE BUILT INTO THAT AGREEMENT, THAT STATE, IF YOU SUBDIVIDE THE LAND FOR ANY USE, IT TRIGGERS AUTOMATIC ANNEXATION OF THE ENTIRE TRACK.

THE QUESTION IS, ARE, ARE, IS, ARE YOU SUBDIVIDING AND ONLY ANNEXING THE ONE ACRE AND LEAVING THE REST IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, NON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT, OR DOES SUBDIVIDING TRIGGER ANNEXATION ON THE ENTIRE PARCEL? THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO TRIGGER THE ENTIRE PARCEL TO BE ANNEXED WHENEVER YOU SUBDIVIDE.

SO DO WE WANT TO SKIP THIS ONE, GO TO THE NEXT ONE WHILE YOU JUST DOUBLE CHECK AND CONFIRM THAT THAT IS WHAT THIS ACTION IS.

UH, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO IT AND PROBABLY PRETTY QUICKLY ADDRESS IT.

I WOULD THINK.

YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.

I THINK THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, AND I'LL, I'LL SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS THE ATTACHMENT ON IT.

WE'LL BE VOTING IN THE, AND THE ATTACHMENT IS FOR THE 25.2 ACRES.

THE REASON FOR THIS, THE REASON THIS ENTIRE THING HAS COME TO YOU IS BECAUSE OF THE REVISION OF THE ONE POINT.

THERE'S NO WAY, BUT THIS IS THE RESOLUTION AND IT'S CITY OF CALTECH ACCEPTING ANNEXATION OF TWENTY-FIVE 0.2 ACRES.

THAT'S YOUR READING AS WELL, SCOTT, RIGHT? YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF .

HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THEM AT ALL? NO, NOT SINCE THIS.

WELL, IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD AND WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET ANNEX SO THAT THEY CAN DO THEIR BATTING CAGES, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE I REMEMBER US TELLING THEM THAT WAS THE WAY TO GO A WHILE BACK.

SO IS THAT JUST ON A ONE ACRE, BECAUSE IT WILL BE SUBDIVIDED SUBDIVIDED, THEY'RE ANALYZING IT ALL THE ONE, THEY KEEP CALLING OUT THE ONE ACRE BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING, IT'S GOING TO BE SUBDIVIDED IN ASSIGNED TO CTX PARK, LLC, BUT THE WHOLE THING'S COMING ONE, WAIT ONE ZERO FIVE.

SUBDIVISION IS THE TRIGGER THAT HAS NECESSITATED THE ENTIRETY OF THIS PROCESS.

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING 1.105 ACRES AWAY FROM THE PARENTS PRACTICE 25 ACRES IS WHAT HAS TRIGGERED THE ENTIRE, THE ANNEXATION OF THE ENTIRE 25 ACRES, WHICH IS COMMENSURATE WITH THE RESOLUTION ON WHICH YOU'RE VOTING TO SEE.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, UH, WITH THAT STATED, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE MAYOR SECOND BY CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 RECONSIDERED DIRECTION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO REVISE THE CBD ONE, CBD TWO ZONING CODES.

UH,

[25. Reconsider Direction to the Planning & Zoning Commission to Revise the CBD 1 & CBD 2 zoning codes. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

UH, THIS IS MY ITEM, UH, AFTER THE LAST COUPLE OF RESIGNATIONS AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM P AND Z THAT I'VE HEARD OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

UM, MY THOUGHT WAS THAT PERHAPS AS WE'RE COMING INTO THE BUDGETING SEASON AND WE'RE THINKING OF DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE MIGHT, MIGHT LOOK MORE TOWARDS THAT AS OPPOSED TO THE DOWNTOWN ZONING ISSUES.

UM, UH, I DON'T

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KNOW THAT P AND Z IS EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE DOWNTOWN.

IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE PREROGATIVE OF THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THE COUNCIL, WHILE WE HAVE BEEN, WE'VE STRUGGLED TO FIND COMMON VISION WITH REGARDS TO THE DOWNTOWN.

UH, THE ONLY SOLUTION IS GOING TO BE THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL ON DOWNTOWN, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED UNTIL WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT.

AND I KNOW WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

SO IT'S REALLY JUST AS SIMPLE AS IT'S BEEN CONTROVERSIAL AND DRAMATIC.

THE P AND Z HAS NOT FELT LIKE THEY HAD CLEAR DIRECTION OR MAYBE THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD CLEAR DIRECTION, BUT NOW THEY DEFINITELY DON'T KNOW THE DIRECTION THEY WANT TO GO.

UH, SOME FOLKS WOULD LOVE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, I THINK, UH, ON THE P AND Z, BUT, UM, I JUST, I'D RATHER SEE US, WAIT, GO THROUGH OUR VISIONING WORKSHOP, GET SINKED UP AROUND PERHAPS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, AND, AND GO AHEAD AND MOVE, MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

UM, WHICH I KNOW THAT PROBABLY BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE P AND Z WOULD LIKE TO BE WORKING ON ANYWAY.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS.

I'M, I'M PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD ASSIGNMENT FOR THEM ANYMORE, SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD RECONSIDERATION.

AND IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO KEEP HAVING THEM GO THROUGH IT, THAT'S FINE.

BUT JUST MY THOUGHTS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON IT, MAYOR? UM, I AM ON THE, UM, WAS ON THE DOWNTOWN TASK FORCE AND, UH, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT TO BNZ FOR RECONSIDERED, A DIRECTION.

AND MY WHOLE THOUGHT FROM THE BEGINNING WAS TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE LIED WHEN IT CAME TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AS FAR AS WHAT BUSINESSES, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE AESTHETICS WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

IT WAS NEVER AN INTENTION TO CHANGE ANY CODES OR ANY, UM, ZONING IS TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAN PROMOTE, HOW CAN WE GET HELP FROM PLANNING AND ZONING TO PROMOTE, UH, THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND USE AGAIN, THE SQUARE AS THE FOCAL POINT, BUT WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF THE TWO RESIGNATIONS WE HAD, UM, KIND OF CONCERNS ME OKAY.

UM, OF THEIR DIRECTION OR WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

SO I THOUGHT ABOUT IT LONG AND HARD AFTER I SAW THE, A THIS ON THE AGENDA.

AND I, I KIND OF AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT SINCE THERE, THAT WE ARE COMING INTO A BUDGET SEASON, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LARGE TASK.

UH, IT'S GOING TO BE STARTING UP ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY THE WORKSHOP IT'S GOING TO BE STARTING UP ON MAY 1ST.

SO WE HAVE, WE'RE ABOUT READY TO GET TO, UM, A LONG HAUL AND OUR FOCUS, UH, OR PROBABLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED ON WORKING WITH THAT.

AND AS FAR AS THE DOWNTOWN, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, I'VE, I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW, SEVERAL MONTHS AND SEEN WHAT HAS BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH AS FAR AS THE, UH, WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN AND, UM, WAS TRYING TO GET A DIRECTION AS FAR AS HOW WE CAN IMPROVE IT.

BUT, UM, BUT WITH 'EM ALL AND SAY, I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY, UH, RE DO RECONSIDER DIRECTION, UH, AT THIS TIME.

UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, YES, WE JUST, UH, GOT TWO PEOPLE ON, BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO REALLY NOW SENSE OF ALL THIS WAS GOING ON A REDIRECT TO ADD POSSIBLY MAYBE AT ANOTHER TIME, I'LL NOTICE IF THAT'S HOW Y'ALL FEEL.

UM, CUSTOMER BRADSHAW, I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOPIA IS I THINK THAT THERE'S JUST EVER SINCE I'VE STARTED PAYING ATTENTION TO, UM, CITY COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CITY, AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT GOES, THERE'S JUST ALWAYS BEEN RESISTANCE DOWNTOWN.

AND TO ME, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WE COULD BE SPENDING THE TIME AND THE ENERGY AND THE RESOURCES TO, UM, MAYBE PUT THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RETAIL IN SOME OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE I THINK IT WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED, EASILY ACCESSIBLE, UM, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, CONTINUOUSLY TRYING TO PRESS FOR SOMETHING DOWNTOWN THAN IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE RESIDENTS WANT AT THIS TIME.

UH, AS A STEP IN THE WRONG DIRECTION OR, UH, UH, BACK TO SQUARE ONE BECAUSE WE ARE ABSOLUTELY PUTTING TIME AND AS MUCH WE'VE GOT AS MUCH TRACTION ON DOWN AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IRONIC BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE MORE TRACTION ON DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, UH, REHABILITATION, REVITALIZATION, WHATEVER THE WORD IS, UH, AS WE'VE EVER HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

ANYONE ELSE? THE ONLY THOUGHT IS TO SAY I, THE ONLY THING IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE ALL AGREED ON IS THE FOCUS ON THE SQUARE.

UH, I WAS PART OF A THREE HOUR MEETING WITH A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS MORNING AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO FLESH OUT MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK REDESIGN.

SO I, I DON'T CONSIDER THIS TO BE NECESSARILY,

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SO I, I JUST THINK THAT, THAT WE CAME UP, WE STRUCK GOLD AND WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA, LET'S FOCUS ON THE SQUARE.

WE ALL, WE ALL KIND OF CAME TO THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT SORT OF POINT OF SYNERGY WHERE THE DIVIDED SORT OF COUNCIL KIND OF FELL AWAY.

AND IT, IT, IT BECAME LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THIS IS, THIS IS THE AREA.

AND SO WE'VE GOT IT GOING.

WE'VE GOT A COMP PLAN POTENTIALLY IF IT GETS, IF IT FINDS ITS WAY TO THE BUDGET AND KIDS CAN SUSTAIN THE TRIAL BY FIRE THAT WE PUT THE BUDGET THROUGH.

BUT LET'S MY, MY THOUGHTS JUST TO FOCUS ON THAT ALLOW THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, BOARD THAT NOW HAS SEVERAL NEW MEMBERS TO GET THEIR FEET WET, UH, POTENTIALLY TO GET GEARED UP FOR FUTURE ASSIGNMENTS, BUT PROBABLY NOT IN PARTICULAR, THOSE TWO ZONINGS THAT HAVE HAD SOME, SOME IN THE PAST AS WELL.

SO JUST MY THOUGHTS, ANY ANYONE ELSE HAVE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? DO YOU WANT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD ON THE DOWNTOWN CBD ONES? UH, OBVIOUSLY I, I DISAGREE WITH THIS.

UM, IT'S DEFINITELY UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE RESIGNATIONS ON ANY OF OUR BORDER BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS.

UM, THE DIRECTION TO PLANNING AND ZONING WAS TO REVIEW AND REVISE THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED INTO ZONING DISTRICTS AND THIS AREA, UH, CBD ONE AND CBD TWO, AND THEN TO SOLICIT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IN THAT PROCESS, NOT TO REZONE ANYTHING, NOT TO, UM, FIGURE OUT WHAT BOUNDARIES THERE ARE, WHAT DOWNTOWN IS ANY OF THAT, THAT WAS NOT THE DIRECTION.

IT WAS SIMPLY TO REVIEW THE USES IN THAT AREA AND SOLICIT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON IT, SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED TO BE DONE.

IS IT THE MAIN THING? IS IT THE THIRD THING? THE SIXTH THING, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF MANY, AND I CONCUR WITH YOU MAYOR, UH, WHETHER THIS HAPPENS OR NOT FOR PNC TO TAKE THIS TASK ON THAT IS A TEDIOUS TASK.

UH, AND IT IS, UH, IS A CHALLENGING TASK.

BUT AS I STATED THAT NIGHT, WHEN A CUSTOMER WOULD TO BE S AND I BROUGHT THIS AGENDA ITEM FORWARD AND WE RECEIVED, UH, SUPPORT, UH, BY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL, UM, WAS THAT WE FELT DEPENDING IS ONLY COMMISSION WAS VERY CAPABLE, MORE THAN CAPABLE, AND CLEARLY THEY WERE CLAMORING TO GET THEIR HANDS ON SOMETHING.

YES, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, I BROUGHT THAT FORWARD BEFORE THIS AND, UH, THAT WAS PUSHED BACK ONTO THE WAIT.

UM, SO TURNED AND SAID, OKAY, WELL, NO SUPPORT FOR REVISITING THE COMP PLAN RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS PERHAPS THE DESIRE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH, I KNOW A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE MENTIONED TO ME THAT THAT IS, UH, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD THAT WAS REJECTED.

SO TURN GEARS.

AND HERE'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO DO, UH, OF THE MANY THINGS THAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING.

AND I AGREE, UH, THIS DOES NOT STOP ANYTHING, THAT'S NOT HALT ANYTHING.

UM, BUT IT WAS A TASK THAT NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.

AND WHETHER WE DO IT NOW, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE AT SOME POINT, WE NEED TO REVISIT THOSE USES BECAUSE THAT THE USES ARE A LARGE PART OF THE STRUGGLE IS FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA IS WHEN WE REZONED SOMETHING, EITHER FROM CB ONE TO CBD TWO, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE APPROVING ALL THOSE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THERE.

SO WE NEEDED TO REVISIT THAT TABLE.

AND CERTAINLY THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN, IN THAT LIST THAT WOULD, THAT, THAT LIST WAS CREATED OVER A DECADE AGO.

UM, SO THE, THE FEELING, UM, OF THE DOWNTOWN, UH, UH, TASK FORCE WAS THAT THIS WAS A, ANOTHER ONE OF THE PEGS THAT WE NEEDED TO FIGURE OUT IT WAS NOT THE FIRST AND LAST ONE.

UH, IT JUST ONE OF THE MANY, AND WE, WE ARE JUGGLING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND I DO APPRECIATE AND AGREE WITH THE STEPS THAT WE'VE MADE AND WE'VE MADE NUMEROUS ONES.

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UM, AND SO THAT WAS WHAT THE DIRECTION WAS, UM, SIMPLY NO MORE THAN THAT P AND Z ALWAYS HAS THE RIGHT BY THEIR BODY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT OUR DIRECTION.

UM, WE HAVE A FANTASTIC EXAMPLE ON OUR DIETS RIGHT NOW OF A BNZ COMMISSIONER, ALONG WITH A FORMER PANSY COMMISSIONER, THAT IS THE SHINING EXAMPLE OF THAT FINDING A PROBLEM IN OUR CODES, UH, WORKING ON IT, BRINGING IT TO THE RECIPE AND Z GETTING PANSIES BUY-IN AND THEN MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, WHICH EVENTUALLY BECAME AN ORDINANCE.

UM, SO THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN.

UH, I I'VE CERTAINLY EXPRESSED THAT TO OUR PREGNANCY COMMISSIONERS, AND I I'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH OUR PNC COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR CAPABILITIES AND THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

AND I I'VE, I FULLY BELIEVED THAT ALL OF THEM WERE CAPABLE OF DOING THAT STILL DO, UM, THAT THAT'S HOW WE IMPROVE THINGS.

UM, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST SITTING AND WAITING BACK FOR REZONINGS.

UH, THERE ARE CERTAINLY, UH, ACTION THAT CAN BE TAKEN.

SO I THINK THAT THIS STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU'RE INTERESTED AGAIN IN THE DOWNTOWN.

I THINK WE, WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR INTEREST IN IT AND YOUR, UM, YOUR INPUT ON IT.

IT'S INVALUABLE, UH, AS IS FROM ANY OTHER PERSON ON THIS BODY.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE ABOUT THE RESIGNATIONS, BUT THAT, THAT, FOR ME, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE RE WE CHANGE COURSE BECAUSE OF THAT.

UH, FOR ME, I THINK WE, WE STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT WE NEED WE NEEDED HELP WITH.

UM, AND THAT, THAT WAS THE IMPRESSION THAT ME AND A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS WHEN WE HAD OUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT, WAS THAT WE NEEDED THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE ADDRESSED.

AND WE FELT, UH, PANSY WITH THE CAPABLE BODY TO HELP US, UH, SIFT THROUGH A VERY TEDIOUS TASK AND AS WELL, GET INVOLVED WITH THE CITIZENRY, WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF, YOU KNOW, PANSY IS DEFINITELY VIEWED AS A PRESTIGIOUS BODY, A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT CAN, UM, THAT ARE DEALING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.

THERE'S A VERY LARGE SWATH OF, UH, MATERIAL THAT, THAT DEALS WITH.

AND, UM, THAT, THAT WAS MY HOPE WITH THIS.

UM, UM, SO YEAH, I I'M, I WAS, I MET, I WAS DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THIS AGENDA ITEM COME UP.

UM, I HAPPY TO HEAR SUPPORT FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

Y'ALL BEEN HEARING ME RAP ON ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE.

SO I LOVE TO, AND APPRECIATE THAT SUPPORT GOING FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, BUT THAT WAS THE DIRECTION.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE VOTED ON.

IT WAS NOTHING MORE THAN THAT.

CERTAINLY IF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BODY CAME WITH MORE RECOMMENDATIONS BEYOND WHAT OUR DIRECTION WAS THAT CAN BE ACCEPTED OR REJECTED AS IT IS ANYTHING FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, BUT WHETHER IT'S ACCEPTED OR EVEN REJECTED, I'M ALWAYS APPRECIATIVE OF THE P AND Z MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO US ON WHAT THEY FEEL IS A BODY COULD, UM, HELP OUR CITY AND THAT THAT'S WHY THEY WERE APPOINTED.

UM, AND SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR SERVICE.

THANK YOU, CUSTOMER ELLISON.

MY ONLY FEEDBACK IS JUST TO SAY THAT I, I THINK THAT P AND Z IS CAPABLE OF PROVIDING A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON CBD ONE AND CBD TWO AS WELL.

THE CHALLENGE IS THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS IN A POSITION WE'RE READY TO LET THEM DO THAT WITHOUT, BECAUSE WE KIND OF WANT TO FIGHT A PROXY BATTLE BECAUSE IF CBD ONE AND CBD TWO LA LAND USE AND ZONING ISSUES WERE BEFORE THIS BODY, WE'D PROBABLY DEBATE AND HAVE A SPLIT VOTE ON IT.

UH, SOME WOULD WANT TO ADD USES.

SOMEONE WANT TO TAKE USES AWAY.

UH, SOME, WE JUST HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS.

AND SO ASKING P AND Z TO TAKE ON THAT ISSUE, UH, LED TO A LOT OF US WANTING TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND HAVE INFLUENCE THERE.

AND THAT WAS REALLY WHAT I THINK KIND OF LED TO SOME OF THE RESIGNATIONS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, JUST HELP CLEAR IT UP IN MY HEAD, AT LEAST BASICALLY TO WHAT CUSTOMER RIZZO SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN HE MADE THE STRONG NO VOTE, WHICH WAS, UH, THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT ISSUE, UH, TO TRY TO USE PNC TO TAKE ON, BECAUSE WE NEED TO TAKE THIS ON SOME OTHER WAY.

UM, THEN THROUGH PNC, UH, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE CONTROVERSIAL ELEMENTS AND THE HISTORIC POLITICAL ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH DOWNTOWN, IT'S JUST, AND IS NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE POLITICAL ENTITY ABOVE THEM IS, IS NOT GOING TO BE

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ABLE TO SIT BY BECAUSE WE ALL CARE TOO MUCH, UH, TO DO THAT, WHICH IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE, JUST SQUARE, PEG ROUND HOLE.

THAT'S THE WAY IT FEELS.

SO IF CUSTOMER WANTS TO SAY, I TOLD YOU, SO YOU, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME, BUT I DOUBT YOU WOULD.

YOU'RE TOO HUMBLE FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, I STILL THINK, I STILL THINK P AND Z WOULD BE VERY MUCH CAPABLE OF, UH, OF HANDLING SOME, SOME GREAT, TOUGH CHALLENGES.

AND I HOPE WE PRESENT THEM WITH THAT OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, SOON, I JUST, FOR MYSELF, DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR SHOW.

I THINK IT CUTS OVER TOBY EVEN SAID IN WHAT HE SAID, IS THAT GOING TO GO THAT MAYBE THE DIRECTION THAT WE OFFICIALLY GAVE WASN'T REALLY WHAT HE HAD IN MIND EITHER.

UH, AND SO, UM, ANYWAY, MY VOTES CHANGED, WHICH IS WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD.

AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WANT TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION COUNSEL MAY PROTON, UM, LIKE IT, WHEN WE SAY SQUARE PEG ROUND HOLE FOR P AND Z, UH, THAT'S NOT HOW I VIEW P AND Z.

UH, THE ASSIGNMENT WAS THE SQUARE PEG ROUND HOLE, AS WHAT I WAS SAYING, I KNOW, BUT YOU'VE SAID IT BEFORE, WHEN IT COMES TO P AND Z, AND IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO EMPOWER P AND Z TO BE THE BEST THEY CAN BE.

AND, UH, I, WHILE I DO AGREE, THIS BECAME PROBLEMATIC, UH, BECAUSE WE GAVE THEM AN ASSIGNMENT AND THEN WE HAD MORE DIRECTION GIVEN ON TOP OF THE OFFICIAL DIRECTION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK INTO BEING P AND Z MEMBERS TO DO STUFF, TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK FOR WAYS THAT YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE CITY AND TO THE COUNCIL.

AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT AN OFFICIAL DIRECTION FROM US.

UM, BUT TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TO TRY TO HELP BRING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAN SOLVE PROBLEMS. UM, I DON'T WANT P AND Z THINKING THAT WE ARE STOPPING THEM FROM SERVING THE CITY, BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST EXPERIENCES FOR ME PERSONALLY, WITH THIS THE TWO YEARS I WAS ON P AND Z.

AND IT TAUGHT ME A LOT ABOUT HOW THE CITY FUNCTIONS AND, UM, I DIDN'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER ON A LOT OF THINGS.

I GOT TOLD THINGS WERE OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW AND STILL WIN.

AND WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS TOLD ME TO MEET OTHER PNZ COMMISSIONERS THAT WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT, UH, WE WORKED AS PRIVATE CITIZENS TO BRING THINGS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, AND THOSE THINGS MADE A DIFFERENCE TO THE CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, I WANT OUR P AND Z TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE RESPECTED AS A BODY AND THAT I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE, UH, APPOINTED TO RECOMMEND AND HELP US TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND BE AN AID TO US.

UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY, UH, THINK THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS JUST COMPLAIN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

SO, UH, WHILE I DO THINK THAT THIS SITUATION, UH, HAS GONE A LITTLE FARTHER OUTSIDE, UH, OF THE SCOPE THAT WE WANTED, UM, AND I'VE ALSO HAD A PREVIOUS ITEM THAT I TRIED TO EMPOWER P AND Z ON, UM, THAT DIDN'T REALLY GO ANYWHERE.

UH, I'M STARTING TO BELIEVE THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT SO MUCH COUNCIL INITIATED, BUT THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF P AND Z MEMBERS THAT WILL INITIATE FROM WITHIN THEIR BODY.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOK FOR WAYS TO BRING THINGS FORWARD THAT THE COUNCIL CAN BEAR AND LOOK AND SUPPORT TO IMPROVE, UH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING FROM UP HERE AS WELL.

SO, UM, I'M NEVER GOING TO WANT TO STOP THEM FROM, FROM, FROM DOING THINGS AND FROM TRYING THINGS AND FROM THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX ON WAYS THAT THEY CAN HELP, UH, IMPROVE THE CITY.

AND SO P AND Z COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU JUST HAPPENED TO BE WATCHING THE MEETING, I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE EMPOWERED TO MAKE POSITIVE CHANGES IN YOUR COMMUNITY, THROUGH THAT BODY AND RECOMMEND THINGS TO THIS BOARD.

UM, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALWAYS WAIT FOR US TO TELL YOU TO DO IT BECAUSE MAYBE THE THINGS WE TELL YOU TO DO, YOU'RE NOT AS INTERESTED IN, BUT LOOK FOR THINGS WHERE YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE AND MAKE THAT EFFORT AND, UH, AND GO FORTH, UH, AS YOU WISH ON THAT.

BUT, UM,

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I DON'T REALLY, LIKE, I DON'T REALLY LIKE THIS TOPIC BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE TOPIC OF TAKING THINGS AWAY FROM P AND Z.

UM, I DON'T LIKE SQUARE PEG ROUND HOLE.

I LIKE PROGRESS POSITIVE PROGRESS.

AND SO I JUST THINK THE PROBLEM BECAME THAT IT WAS NO LONGER POSITIVE.

IT BECAME NEGATIVE AND MAYBE THAT'S THE TOPIC.

AND IT'S THE ONE THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH IS DOWNTOWN.

ANY ARE RIGHT.

WE ALL CAME TO A CONSENSUS THAT THE SQUARE IS WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE AREA WHERE WE CAN ALL, UH, FIND AGREEMENT.

UH, BUT IT IS, UH, UH, NOT AN INDICTMENT ON P AND Z.

I KNOW THAT THEY WERE CONFUSED.

UM, SO, UH, NEW COMMISSIONERS, I DO THINK IS A GOOD TIME FOR THEM TO GET THEIR FEET WET.

AND, UM, MAYBE THERE'LL BE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT COMES FORWARD.

UM, IF WE CAN FIND THE RIGHT VENDOR THAT DOES A GOOD JOB, UH, AND THEY CAN HELP WITH THAT, BUT, UH, P AND Z DO YOUR THING.

AND DON'T ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL, ONE OF US DOES HERE.

IT SAYS HERE FROM THE DIOCESE, UH, YOU ARE YOUR OWN BODY.

YOU KNOW, I, I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID HERE, PRO TIM.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, AS A COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE A VOICE.

AND IF ANYONE FROM THIS DIOCESE EVER CALLS YOU TO INTIMIDATE YOU ABOUT USING YOUR VOICE, HOW YOU VOTED, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US AS A BODY AND LET US KNOW BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HOW WE RUN THINGS THAT WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, TO WORK TOGETHER, NOT TO INTIMIDATE AND NOT TO PUSH PEOPLE OUT OF THE DOOR.

I WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER AS A BODY COLLABORATING, MOVING FORWARD AS A CITY.

IS THAT'S, THAT'S EVERYTHING WE'D BEEN DOING, UM, FROM THE TIME ESSENTIALLY I'VE BEEN EVEN ON COUNCIL.

UH, ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? YES, GO AHEAD.

NEXT.

SO, UM, MY QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL, UM, AND I HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH, UH, SOME RESIDENTS IN OUR DOWN, UM, IN OUR CENTER STREET AREA, UH, ABOUT THIS, UH, AND FOCUSING ON THE SQUARE.

WE'VE SAID THAT A LOT.

UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I AM IN MY ASSESSMENT, WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON THE SQUARE.

THAT'S ALL THAT WE'VE DONE.

UM, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WE'RE SPENDING ALL THE PIPELINE MONEY DOWN THERE, UH, WAVE AND, UM, IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, UH, SIGNAGE, WHERE YOU'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT FOR THE HOLIDAYS AND THE FEST FESTIVITIES.

UH, ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER AGAIN, UH, WE'LL DO PROGRAMMING ON THE SQUARE AND ESPECIALLY DANCE.

UH, WE'VE APPROVED MONEY TO RENOVATE THE OLD DOWNTOWN, UH, CITY HALL.

UH, WE DID THE, UM, THE RAILROAD SITE LOCATION, THE, UH, THE, UH, TRAIN DEPOT.

UM, IT'S NOT THE SQUARE, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE AREA THAT PEOPLE KIND OF STILL ARE FINE WITH US DOING THINGS.

SO ALL THE ATTENTION HAS BEEN ON THE SQUARE.

THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN ACTION BY THE CITY TO GO SOMEWHERE OFF THE SQUARE THROUGHOUT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT TO PUSH FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN OR TO INVEST LIKE WE'RE INVESTING ALL OF THAT IS HAPPENING ON THE SQUARE.

SO MY, I JUST, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN IT SAID, FOCUS ON THE SQUARE, WHERE ARE WE NOT DOING THAT? AND WHERE ARE WE IF WE AREN'T DOING IT? WHERE, HOW, IN, WHAT WAY WITH MONEY? CERTAINLY I DON'T SEE IT BEING SPENT ANYWHERE ELSE, PROVE AREAS, UH, OFF THIS WHERE, UM, CERTAINLY DON'T SEE ANY OTHER KIND OF INVESTMENTS OR, OR, OR INITIATED ACTIONS BY THE CITY SQUARE.

SO THAT, THAT IS FOCUSING ON, ON THE SQUARE.

THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.

AND I CONCUR WITH THAT WHEN WE, WHEN IT COMES TO INVESTMENT, WHEN IT COMES TO RESOURCES, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHERE IT'S ALL HAPPENING.

SO I, I'M JUST CONFUSED ON THE NARRATIVE THAT WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON THE SQUARE

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UM, SO I DON'T THINK THERE IS A STRONG DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION, UH, WITH SOME MEMBERS IN THE AREA, UH, THAT HAVE COME IN TO VISIT US.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, THINGS DOWN CENTER STREET.

UM, IT HAD LIKED HIM TO SEE IMPROVED.

UM, THAT'S NOT SQUARE THOUGH.

UH, AND WE'RE NOT INVESTING TO DO THAT.

IT'S ALL BEING PUMPED RIGHT THERE ON THE SQUARE.

SO, YEAH, I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT WELDER BY THAT.

UM, I, ONCE AGAIN, I STILL FEEL NIPPY AND ZEE IS CAPABLE OF THIS.

I CONCUR ABOUT TAKING ACTION, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, I FEEL LIKE I'VE TOLD EVERYTHING IS THE ZONING COMMISSION THAT I'VE HAD CONTACT WITH ABOUT THAT THE, THE PARKING ORDINANCE THAT WAS DERIVED FROM THAT BODY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS NOT DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

THAT WAS TWO AWESOME PANSY COMMISSIONERS THAT TOOK THE BULL BY THE HORNS AND SAW SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE IMPROVED.

UM, AND SO THAT, THAT IS CERTAINLY, I REMEMBER FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AND FORMER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER, SHANE AIR B TOLD ME, AND, UH, COACH THAT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING OUT THERE AND LOOKING FOR THINGS TO IMPROVE WITHIN THE CODE THAT IS IN THE PURVIEW OF YOUR BODY, THEN YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT IS BEST AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER.

AND THAT HIT US HARD.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT PROBABLY DROVE THAT, THAT ACTION THAT, THAT I JUST SPOKE OF, UM, THAT'S APPRECIATED.

UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF BEING ON TEAM COP, WHICH OUR PANSY COMMISSIONERS ARE.

UH, AND CERTAINLY WE CAN ALL HAVE FRUSTRATIONS AND SEE PROBLEMS, BUT NOW WE'RE A PART OF TEAM COPS.

SO HOW DO SOLVE THEM? HOW DO WE FIX THEM? HOW DO WE MAKE IT BETTER? UM, THAT'S ON ALL OF US AS TEAM KYLE, WHETHER YOU'RE ELECTED, APPOINTED YOUR STAFF MEMBER, UM, WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, WE'RE ALL ON THAT.

WE'RE ALL ON THAT TEAM TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND, UH, UM, YEAH, I GUESS I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY THANK YOU.

UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND THE PREVIOUS DIRECTION TO P AND Z REGARDING CBD ONE AND CBD TWO ZONINGS.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALES, OR ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP AGENDA

[26. Discussion and possible action regarding Board & Commission Staffing Policy. ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]

ITEM NUMBER 26, UH, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING BOARDING COMMISSION.

A STAFFING POLICY COMES FROM ALISON.

UM, SO I WAS REALLY HOPING WE COULD HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE THE APPOINTMENTS EARLIER TONIGHT.

UM, CAUSE I THINK THAT, I GUESS MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT WANTED CLARITY ON, UM, THE POLICY AND HOW, HOW IT'S DONE.

UM, MARRIAGE STATED EARLIER THAT ALL FOUR, UM, OF THE PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE PART OF THE COMMITTEE TO, TO REVIEW APPLICANTS WERE A PART OF NARROWING IT DOWN FROM 13 TO 16 OR 13 TO SIX.

UM, AND, UM, I STAYED A LOT OF MY, MY POINTS ARE THERE ABOUT THE REMAINING SEVEN.

AND HOW, UM, DO THOSE, DID THOSE FOLKS MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS, UM, OUTLINED IN THE CHARTER? AND SO I'LL, I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION OF, UH, SCOTT AMERICAN COUNCIL SCOTT SUMMONS FOR THE RECORD.

SO I'LL GO BACK TO THE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH THAT WAS EVEN EXPLORED DURING THIS MEETING.

I THINK, I THINK THE BIG ISSUE HERE IS THE SECTION THAT WAS READ EARLIER TONIGHT WAS FROM THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION TWO 62 UNDER THE COMMITTEES AND THE QUALIFICATION QUALIFICATIONS FOR COMMITTEES.

UH, THE CHARTER IS IN SECTION 10.04 AND LOOKING AT THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE CHARTER, IT'S,

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IT'S A RESIDENCY AND QUALIFIED VOTER.

SO I DON'T SEE THEM BEING THE SAME IN THE CHARTER OR IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, NOT TO SAY THAT ONE CAN'T REPLACE OR, UH, BE PROJECTED TO ANOTHER, BUT THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR P AND Z IS 10.4.

AND IT'S JUST THE TWO W SO I MEAN, THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS OF THE PEOPLE THAT APPLIED, THAT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH APPLICATIONS, WERE THEY QUALIFIED VOTERS, ALL 13 WERE, AND THE ANSWER IS, YES, THAT IS THE CANDIDATE POOL IS THOSE WHO APPLIED, WHO WERE QUALIFIED VOTERS, THAT'S THE INITIAL VETTING.

SO IF SOMEBODY DID NOT LIVE IN THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN COLD, UM, RIGHT THEN AND THERE AT THAT TIME.

SO WE WERE PRESENTED WITH A CANDIDATE POOL.

AND THE QUESTION IS OF 13 MEMBERS, DO WE WANT TO REQUIRE, UH, THAT THE BOARD THAT WOULD BE MAKING THE NOMINATION INTERVIEW EVERY SINGLE QUALIFIED CANDIDATE, UH, OR ARE WE ALLOWING FOR DISCRETION FOR, UH, AYE SELECTION OF THE, UH, THE APPLICANTS TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD FOR A ROUND OF INTERVIEWS, AS OPPOSED TO ALL OF THEM, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT, UH, WHERE IF IT'S ONLY FOUR PEOPLE APPLY, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'LL PROBABLY BRING ALL FOUR IN, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ACROSS ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

SO, UM, I ONLY SPEAK FOR PNC.

THAT'S THE ONLY BOARD AND, UH, THAT I CURRENTLY AM A PART OF, UH, THAT PROCESS.

BUT, UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF WE GET A LOT OF APPLICANTS TO COME IN, IT'S COMMON FOR US TO, AND PER POLICY TO NARROW DOWN THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, UH, AND MAYBE ONLY INTERVIEW A SELECT FEW.

AND THEN IF IN THAT INTERVIEW PROCESS, WE DON'T FIND SOMEBODY WHO WE THINK IS THE RIGHT FIT.

MAYBE WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT, GIVE IT ANOTHER LOOK, UH, OR START THE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN, WHICH WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE DONE BOTH OF THOSE THINGS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

UH, AT VARIOUS TIMES WHERE WE'VE SAID THIS ISN'T A GOOD POOL.

WE DIDN'T GET ANY GOOD QUALIFIED RESPONSES, WHATEVER.

BUT, UM, FOR MYSELF, I BELIEVE THAT THE POLICY THAT SAYS SO WE CAN NARROW IT, WE DON'T HAVE TO INTERVIEW EVERYONE WHO APPLIES IS AN APPROPRIATE, UH, POLICY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD DO ANYONE ANY SERVICE BY IF THERE ARE 13 PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE TO GET FIVE PEOPLE IN A ROOM TO INTERVIEW.

UM, THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO, I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE TRYING TO INTERVIEW 13 PEOPLE ALL AT ONCE, UH, FOR THAT POSITION, UH, WITH THAT PANEL, IT CAN BE DONE, BUT THE INTERVIEWS WILL BE SHORTER AND I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT IT GETS YOUR BETTER, UM, UH, APPLICANT, BUT THAT IS THE CURRENT POLICY.

SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE IT, I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO SO TO, TO, TO PUT INTO THE POLICY THAT ALL QUALIFIED APPLICANTS WILL BE INTERVIEWED, THAT KIND OF A STATEMENT.

THIS WOULD BE THE SPOT TO SPOT TO THAT CUSTOMER RESEARCH.

SO THIS IS A PAUL .

UM, GO AHEAD, DEX.

HE CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME, SO THIS IS ON OUR CHARTER.

UM, SO WOULD WE HAVE TO BRING THIS TO THE VOTERS TO AMEND THIS? OR IS THIS JUST SOMETHING WE COULD DO? IN-HOUSE NO, IT'S, UH, IT'S THE BOARDS AND POLICIES, UH, ORDINANCE.

IT'S NOT THE CHARTER.

WE, THE CITY IN 2017 IN MARCH, WE PUT THIS, UH, PLAN IN MOTION.

SO THE, THE FOUR MEMBERS WHO DO THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT HEAD, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE, UH, CO UH, MAYOR DESIGNEE AND THE, UM, CHAIR OF THAT BOARD OR DESIGNEE, THAT'S ALL, WE ALL ESTABLISHED THAT ON PAPER HERE IN 2017.

SO WE CAN AMEND THAT.

SO IF WE WANT TO REQUIRE THE, THE, THAT COMMITTEE, THAT, THAT SELECTION COMMITTEE OR NOMINATING COMMITTEE TO INTERVIEW EVERYONE, IT'S AS SIMPLE AS, UH, AS SIMPLE AS A BOAT, UH, ALL WE DO SOME IN THAT POLICY, UH, AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD COMPEL US TO INTERVIEW EVERYONE WHO APPLIES.

THAT IS A REGISTERED VOTER, UM, BY THE CHARTER, UH, AND A RESIDENT OF KYLE.

AND RIGHT NOW WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE ALL THE APPLICATIONS IN STAFF, THE BOARD, THE COMMISSION TAKES A LOOK AT ALL THE APPLICATIONS, PICKS OUT THE TOP, UH, TIER OF THAT, OF THOSE DUE TO THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, AND THEN MOVES FORWARD WITH THE, UH, IF YOU GET 13, YOU, YOU MAYBE SAY FOUR OR FIVE, IF YOU GET FOUR OR FIVE, YOU DO ALL FOUR OR FIVE.

SO PRETTY MUCH THE WAY IT GOES IS THAT THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW THERE'S AN ONLINE APPLICATION.

THOSE ARE THOSE CANDIDATES ORIGINALLY VETTED TO SEE IF THEY WERE CONFORMATIVE FOR THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THEN THOSE APPLICANTS, THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE PLACED INTO FOLDERS.

THOSE ARE ALL PLACED ON THE SHARED DRIVE.

AND THIS IS BASICALLY HOW THIS WORKED.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE GIVEN A LINK AT ALL, 13 IN IT.

THEN THE, THE MEMBERS, THE INTERVIEWING COMMITTEE WAS ASKED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THEIR SHORTLIST

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OF THOSE 13.

AND, AND, AND FOR THE CASE OF P AND Z, WE WERE PROVIDED WITH THE SHORT LIST AHEAD OF TIME.

THIS IS WHAT SOME STAFF MEMBERS HAVE GONE THROUGH.

THIS IS WHAT WE THINK, BUT THAT WAS STILL, WE HAD ALL 13 A RECOMMENDATION.

IT WAS JUST, THEY WERE JUST HELPING US WITH THE WORK LIKE GIVING, CAUSE IT'S A LOT TO GO THROUGH 13 APPLICATIONS AND IT'S HOURS OF WORK.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THAT AND THEN WE STILL WENT THROUGH THEM ALL AND TO DECIDE WHETHER WE AGREED WITH WHAT KIND OF STAFF HAD PUT FORWARD AND THEN MADE CHANGES HERE AND THERE, THAT WHAT STAFF SAID, WASN'T WHAT ENDED UP BEING THE CASE AFTER THE COMMITTEE, CORRECT.

OR THE HIRING SELECTION COMMITTEE LOOKED AT IT.

WE SAID, WE'D RATHER IT BE THIS SIX AND THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ONE DIDN'T SHOW AS FAR AS JUST THE WAY THAT IT'S BEEN.

WE CAN MODIFY THAT PROCESS, BUT IT WORKS REALLY WELL.

SO OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANT TO, BUT IT CAN BE MODIFIED.

I THINK IT WORKS WELL FOR GETTING TO A NOMINEE IF THAT'S THE GOAL.

SO I SEE THIS AS, ALMOST AS A HIRING PROCESS, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS, WHAT IS OUR, UH, REQUIREMENT? WHAT DO WE DO RIGHT NOW WHEN WE HIRE AN EMPLOYEE, WHEN WE BRING OUT AN APPLICATION, CAUSE YOU COULD, YOU COULD GET A HUNDRED APPLICATIONS.

UH, HOW DO YOU BRING THAT FORWARD AS WELL? WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THE FINAL SELECTION, DO YOU BRING BACK ANY INTERVIEW, ALL A HUNDRED, UH, CANDIDATES, OR DO YOU VET THROUGH THOSE? YEAH.

THE H HUMAN RESOURCES WILL CALL THOSE OUT TO, UH, A NUMBER THAT CAN BE INTERVIEWED MANAGEABLE.

IS THERE LIKE A, A POINT, UM, PROCESS THAT CAN BE DONE AS PART OF THAT, OR IT LIKE, AS FAR AS LIKE A CERTAIN DEGREE OF EXPERIENCE, YOU DO A POINT SCALE AND THEN YOU CAN START NAILING IT DOWN, ALONG WITH THE DATE OF THE APPLICATION, THEY GOT THEIR TWO WEEKS TO PUT IT IN AND SO FORTH ON THAT.

AND YOU CAN START NARROWING DOWN.

YOU CAN GO FROM THE, ON THAT END.

TYPICALLY HUMAN RESOURCES WILL, WE'LL EXAMINE THE APPLICANTS.

THIS IS FOR JOBS, NOT THESE, BUT, UH, BASED ON THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE JOB.

AND THEN THEY'LL SUBMIT THE TOP X, YOU KNOW, THAT COMPLY WITH ALL THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND THEN THE HIRING BODY, WHETHER IT'S THE DEPARTMENT HEAD AND STAFF WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND THEN COLD THOSE DOWN.

LET'S SAY THERE'S 20 IN THAT BUNDLE.

THEY'LL CALL THOSE DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, SIX TO 10 THAT THEY THINK THAT THEY COULD REASONABLY GET IN FOR AN INTERVIEW.

I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD AND NEXT, GO AHEAD.

FINISH.

SO IF I'M A, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS AND I UNDERSTAND HELPING THE COMMITTEE OUT AND ALL THAT STUFF, SOMEONE PLEASE SHOW ME IN THE POLICY THAT WAS IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL, WHERE IT STATES FOR STAFF TO NARROW DOWN AND GIVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMITTEE.

SO THAT'S ONE, TWO, THE, SO THE STATEMENT IS THAT ALL FOUR OF THE PER PERSONS THAT ARE PART OF THE COMMITTEE TO INTERVIEW WERE GIVEN ALL 13 APPLICATIONS AND NARROWED IT DOWN TO SIX IS AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHAT WAS STATED EARLIER TONIGHT ON AGENDA ITEMS. AND THEN NEXT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE SOMEBODY COULD SHOW ME IN THE POLICY THERE, WHERE IT STATES THAT, UM, THAT, THAT POINT OF, IF, IF SOMEONE MEETS ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS THAT ARE THE BASIC CRITERIA, AS IT STATES IN THE POLICY, IF SOMEBODY MEETS ALL OF THAT, WHERE IT IS THE DETERMINED THAT, THAT IF, IF THEY MEET ALL THOSE QUALIFICATIONS, THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE, UH, MOVED TO THE SECOND, UH, WENT TO SAY THE SECOND ROUND.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOLUNTEERS.

SO I'D LIKE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

AND THE POLICY, SO ONE, WHERE DOES IT SAY STAFF TO NARROW DOWN BASED ON, UH, WHAT THEY FEEL, THE ABILITY IT IS TO DO THE JOB OF A COMMITTEE OR BOARD MEMBER? UM, NEXT I'D LIKE TO SAY I DON'T, I THINK THAT'S A FALSE EQUIVALENCE TO COMPARE IT TO A, UH, PAYROLL HIRED EMPLOYEE.

IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A PAYROLL EMPLOYEE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PARAMETERS AND THINGS IN PLACE.

THERE ARE LAWS THAT ARE IN PLACE.

ALL WE HAVE FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR A VOLUNTEER BODY IS THIS POLICY.

SO GOING BY THE POLICY IS WHAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO SHOW GOOD FAITH TO OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT IS EQUITABLE AND FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THAT THERE AREN'T PEOPLE BEING NARROWED OUT OR TAKEN OUT FOR THE REASON THAT THIS POLICY WAS CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE, UM, WHERE THERE WAS A CONCERN OF FAVORITISM OR PEOPLE BEING APPOINTED AND ALL THAT, THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

IF, IF THE POLICY IS FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER AND PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW,

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UM, OR IF THEY MEET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS IN THE FIRST ROUND, WE, WE, BY AND LARGE ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THAT CONCERN OF ANYTHING BEING DONE, WHERE PEOPLE WERE BEING CUT OUT OR PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO PITCH THEMSELVES IN AN INTERVIEW.

WE WE'VE HEARD, IT SAID ON FEBRUARY 23RD, WE HAD SAID EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT A PERSON'S ABILITY, UH, AND KNOWING IF THEY WERE, ARE ABLE TO CARRY OUT THAT JOB.

AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL YOU'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEM.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I BROUGHT IT UP ON FEBRUARY 23RD.

UM, THE REASON WHY I'M SO FEEL SO STRONGLY ABOUT THIS IS ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE PANSY COMMISSIONERS PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE THAT, UM, DID, THEY DIDN'T HAVE QUALIFICATIONS THAT WERE RELATIVE TO THIS, BUT THEY STILL HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT FANCY COMMISSIONERS.

AND SO THAT IS JUST MY CONCERN IS WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE A VOLUNTEER BODY THAT IS NOT A PAYROLL EMPLOYEE.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO MAKE THAT COMPARISON, BUT YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO SERVE.

I DON'T, I UNDERSTAND WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS MANY APPLICANTS BEFORE, SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S CHALLENGING, BUT THAT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT MENTIONED, IT WAS MENTIONED, UH, OVER A MONTH AGO ABOUT THE CHALLENGE OF INTERVIEWING ALL OF THOSE.

WELL, THAT'S WHY THE DESIGNEE IS ALSO A PART OF THAT.

UM, AND THEN AS WELL, THE LANGUAGE, SO THE POLICY WAS APPROVED IN MARCH OF 2017, AND THEN IT WAS, UH, REVISED IN AUGUST OF 2017 TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE FOR WHEN THERE'S OPENING ON OTHER BOARDS.

THOSE PEOPLE CAN BE INTERVIEWED AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME, SAY THEY'RE INTERVIEWING FOR PNC, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE, THE BODY FROM THE PARKS TEAM IN THERE TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE VACANCIES AND MAYBE IT'S DECIDED THAT MAYBE THERE'S ONE BODY OR THE OTHER THAT THEY'D BETTER FIT ON.

UM, SO THAT'S JUST, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS, UM, ONCE AGAIN, OR EVEN EARLY TONIGHT, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MADE ANY FURTHER APPOINTMENTS.

CAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PNC COMMISSIONERS, UH, THAT WERE APPLIED EARLIER, NOTHING TO DO WITH, AGAINST HIM AT ALL 100% AGREE THAT THEY ARE VALUABLE CITIZENS THAT COULD CONTRIBUTE A LOT.

AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THEY WILL AND THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS ONCE AGAIN, I BROUGHT THIS UP ON FEBRUARY 23RD BECAUSE OF THIS PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, APPOINTMENT.

WE HAD PARKS AND RECS APPOINTMENT THAT, THAT SAME NIGHT, UH, AS WELL, THEY INTERVIEWED ALL THE APPLICANTS.

YES, THERE WERE ONLY SIX OF THEM AS OPPOSED TO 13, BUT THAT GAVE THOSE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL LIKE THEY WERE HEARD AND ABLE TO SELL THEMSELVES IF YOU WILL, AND AN INTERVIEW.

CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO THE CITY IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE.

AND IT JUST CREATES, UM, WHEN, WHEN THAT PROCESS DOESN'T HAPPEN, AS THEY UNDERSTAND IT, LOOKING AT THE POLICY, THEN IT CREATES, UM, A LOT OF STRIPED AND DIVISION OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY, YOU KNOW, THIS DECISION WAS MADE WHEN THEY, THEY HAD BEEN IN THE CITY, THEY'VE MET ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS AND THEY JUST WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PATIENTS REGARDLESS IF THEY'RE CHOSEN OR NOT.

UH, JUST GETTING THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST HOPING WE COULD CLEAR UP TONIGHT, UH, CERTAINLY FOR, UH, THOSE SEVEN THAT DIDN'T GET, GET CHOSEN, BUT ALSO FOR FUTURE APPOINTMENTS AND GOING FORWARD.

CAUSE MY IDEA IS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO GET A LOT OF APPLICANTS AS THE CITY GROWS.

AND AS PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THINGS AND THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED OR MAYBE THEY ARE NOT FRUSTRATED WITH THINGS AND JUST WANT TO CONTRIBUTE FROM THEIR, THEIR EXPERIENCE AND LEVELS OF EXPERTISE.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO DO TONIGHT.

AND CAN CERTAINLY, UH, COUNCILOR ELLISON, YOU POST SOME QUESTIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT.

WOULD YOU LIKE A RESPONSE TO THOSE? YOU KIND OF GOT OFF OF THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT I LOVE TO SEE IN THE POLICY WHERE IT, WHERE IT STATES THOSE THINGS OR BE CLARIFIED TO ME BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'VE READ IT.

I DON'T SEE THAT IS WHAT CAME TO FRUITION, RIGHT? SO THE WAY, THE WAY WE'VE INTERPRETED IT, AND I WILL ADMIT AS AN OLIVE BRANCH THAT IT'S NOT THE MOST CLEARLY WORDED POLICY, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CUMBERSOME.

UM, BUT THAT THE, THE BIG ISSUE THAT I THINK THAT YOU AND I HAVE HAD, OR THAT YOU'VE HAD WITH THIS PROCESS AND HOW, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS FOLLOWED IS, IS WHAT IS THE FIRST ROUND BECAUSE THE POLICY SAYS, IF YOU'RE A QUALIFIED APPLICANT, UH, YOU HAVE PASSED THE FIRST ROUND.

UH, THE SECOND ROUND IS THE INTERVIEW ROUND, WHICH IS VERY CLEAR IN THE POLICY.

THAT ROUND NUMBER TWO IS THE INTERVIEW ROUND, NOT ROUND NUMBER ONE, ROUND NUMBER ONE IS QUALIFICATIONS.

NO ONE WAS DISQUALIFIED IN ROUND.

NUMBER ONE, NO ONE WAS ELIMINATED OR TAKEN OFF THE, UM, AND LESS, THEY DID NOT MEET THE MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS OF BEING A RESIDENT,

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UH, FOR SIX MONTHS OR BEING A REGISTERED VOTER, UH, ET CETERA.

THE ROUND TWO PROCESS, WHICH IS THE INTERVIEW PROCESS IS WHERE THE PARING DOWN TOOK PLACE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY EXPRESS EXPLICIT IT'S CONTEMPLATED IN THE POLICY AND STATED AS SUCH.

SO IF THERE WAS, I DID THE LANGUAGE THOUGH, WAS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT, NOWHERE IN THE LANGUAGE DOES IT SAY ABOUT STAFF NARROWING, DEPAUL, NARROWING APPLICANTS DOWN AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.

WE ARE INTERVIEWING THE TOP FIVE THAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND, AND ARE PROBABLY THE BETTER CANDIDATES FOR IT.

WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.

I SAID, NOTHING ABOUT STAFF NARROWING, ANYTHING DOWN I'M TALKING ABOUT.

ROUND TWO IS THE INTERVIEW ROUNDS, WHICH IS WHEN IT GETS PAIRED DOWN, WHICH IS IN THE INTERVIEW, WHICH IS IN THE POLICY WRITTEN UNDER ROUND TWO.

YOU'RE READING ROUND TWO IS ROUND ONE AND ROUND ONE IS ROUND ZERO IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE EVERYONE SHOULD GET AN INTERVIEW.

SORRY, EVERYBODY WANTS A, I'VE GOT HOWARD COUNSELOR BRADSHAW AND COUNSELOR RIZZO, BUT I AT LEAST WANTED TO GET MY RESPONSE TO THAT.

UM, BUT WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT? HOWARD? DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? CAUSE YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP, UH, ON THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN SO YOU CAN READ IT OR I'VE READ IT MANY TIMES IN THE LAST WEEK, BUT YES.

AND IT WAS IN OUR BACKUP MATERIAL.

IS IT THE ONE THAT'S DATED ON THE BOTTOM IS MARCH THE SECOND.

THAT'S THE ONE AND ONLY, YES.

I MEAN, IT MAY HAVE BEEN A MINUTE, BUT THAT'S THE AUGUST 15TH IS WHAT THIS ONE IS DATED.

THERE'S TWO OF THEM.

I STATED THAT EARLIER THERE WAS ONE IN MARCH AND THEN IT WAS REVISED IN AUGUST, RIGHT? AUGUST ONE IS WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR BACKUP MATERIALS.

LET ME, UH, THIS IS THE POLICY THAT I HAD ON MY SHARED DRIVE.

I'LL I'LL GET THE ONE THAT'S IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL.

IF YOU'D PREFER.

MAYBE THAT'LL TAKE ME A SECOND.

SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ASK A QUESTION WHILE I'M DOING THAT CUSTOMER RANCHO, OKAY.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.

I, I HEAR YOU WITH MAKING SURE THAT ALL CANDIDATES ARE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THE SELECTION PROCESS IS FAIR.

AND I DEFINITELY CAN SEE WHERE THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN THE CURRENT POLICY THAT WE HAVE, AND MAYBE JUST DOING SOME SORT OF MODIFICATION TO CREATE SOME CLARITY THERE.

I WOULD BE HESITANT TO INITIATE A POLICY THAT REQUIRES INTERVIEWING EVERY SINGLE APPLICANT, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN SUCH A SPIKE IN INTEREST FOR PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER IN THE COMMUNITY JUST WITHIN THESE PAST YEARS, WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE NEXT, GO ROUND FOR, YOU KNOW, A PNC COMMISSIONER TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD FROM NOW, IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE WOULD BE CREATING A POLICY THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE WAY TOO MANY APPLICANTS THAT IT JUST WOULDN'T BE FEASIBLY POSSIBLE TO INTERVIEW.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE CUSTOMERS THOUGH, YOU WANT TO GO NEXT? YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY ON WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT THE HIRING PROCESS.

WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO WAS THAT WHEN YOU POST A JOB AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T A JOB, THIS IS A COMMISSION POSTS, A VOLUNTEER POSTS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, ON X NUMBER OF APPLICANTS APPLY, WHEN DO WE SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO STOP INTERVIEWING EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO MANY.

I MEAN, WE'D BE TYING UP STAFF'S TIME, VALUABLE STAFF TIME, WHERE HE COULD BE WORKING ON SOMETHING ELSE WHEN WE'VE ALREADY HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THE APPLICATIONS.

AND THIS ISN'T ABOUT EXCLUDING SOMEBODY IT'S ABOUT TAKING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE QUALIFIED.

DO WE, WE NOW HAVE, WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE QUALIFIED PEOPLE APPLYING FOR POSITIONS THAT IN THE PAST, WE COULD HARDLY GET ANYONE TO COME IN AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR.

AND NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TAKING THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON THERE.

SO THIS PERSON, INSTEAD OF STARTING OFF AT GROUND ZERO ALREADY HAS SOME QUALIFICATIONS WHERE THEY CAN HIT THE GROUND RUNNING A LITTLE BIT FASTER, A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAINING, BUT NOW THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE JOB THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS THEY'VE BEEN THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY, I GUESS I HAVE A LITTLE ISSUE.

I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO NOT SEEING WHY WE WOULDN'T TAKE THE MORE QUALIFIED APPLICANT OVER THE, UH, APPLICANT THAT HAD NO EXPERIENCE WHATSOEVER.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WOULD INTERVIEW THAT PERSON WHEN

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I I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD DO THAT.

SO, UH, WANT TO CLARIFY THE POINT OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS NOT TO ADVOCATE FOR INTERVIEWING ALL CAMP CANDIDATES.

UH, I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT NOT BEING COMMUNICATED.

WELL, LET ME TRY AGAIN.

SO, UM, YES.

I UNDERSTAND.

NUMBER FOUR, VERY FIRST PART OF THE SENTENCE BASED ON THE FIRST ROUND EVALUATION APPLICATIONS.

SO FIRST ROUND IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT STING.

SO I CLEAR ON WHICH ROUND IS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IT'S WEARING THE POLICY.

DOES IT STATE FOR STAFF TO PARTICIPATE IN NARROWING DOWN THE APPLICATIONS? I'M NOT STAYING THEM.

NUMBER THREE THAT'S FOR ONE THOUGH, AROUND ONE THAT'S THE CITY YOU CAN GO OUT.

AND IF YOU CAN ALSO, IF YOU'VE BEEN A RESIDENT, RIGHT, CORRECT.

SO THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN SAYING, HEY, THESE FOUR APPLICATIONS, ALL SEVEN, MEET IT, BUT YET WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GIVE YOU THESE FOUR.

THAT IS NOT THE SAME THING I UNDERSTAND.

AND THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN IT.

MAYBE STAFF WAS TOO PROACTIVE TO TRY TO ASSIST US IN NARROWING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S ALL HE WAS SAYING.

THAT BECOMES DISCRIMINATORY.

BUT I READILY ADMITTING THAT THEY DID NOT, THEY DID NOT ELIMINATE CITY STAFF DID NOT ELIMINATE ANYONE FROM THIS PROCESS THAT, THAT THE, THE, THE BOARD HADN'T, DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW.

AND, AND, AND, AND THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO BRING FORWARD.

UH, SHOULD THAT BE OKAY FOR ALL FOUR OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAW ALL 13 APPLICATIONS.

I CAN ANSWER THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT WAS ON A SHARED DRIVE THAT THERE WAS A DRIVE THAT WAS EMAILED TO ME.

I DON'T KNOW.

I GET A LOT OF EMAILS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS WAS THERE.

WE WAS JUST A MATTER, WE HAVE TO HAVE DEBBIE BECAUSE DEBBIE IS THE ONE THAT REACHES OUT AND SCHEDULES THE INTERVIEWS, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

THERE'S A LOT OF STAFF SUPPORT FOR P AND Z.

SO, SO I JUST CHECKED BACK ON THE EMAIL THREAD ABOUT THE INTERVIEWS.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE APPLICATION, NARROWING IT DOWN FROM 13 TO SIX, ALL FOUR MEMBERS SAW ALL 13 APPLICATIONS AND NARROWED IT DOWN TO SIX.

THAT WAS THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE A FEW HOURS AGO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT AGENDA ITEM IT.

SO I LOOKED AT THE EMAIL THREAD AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE SENT TO, UH, THE CHAIRMAN CHAIRWOMAN, MICHELLE CHRISTIE.

BUT SINCE SHE DID NOT HAVE IT AT CITY OF KYLE EXTENSION ON HER EMAIL, THAT IT DID NOT GO THROUGH.

SO SHE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY EMAILED THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE SIX WHO WERE INTERVIEWED OR INTENDED TO BE INTERVIEWED.

SO SHE DIDN'T SEE ALL OF THEM.

SHE SAW ONLY THE SIX THAT WERE SENT TO HER DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF THE SHARED DRIVE ISSUE.

WELL, EVERYONE ELSE HAD THE 13TH, THEY ATTEMPTED TO SEND IT TO HER.

BUT SO THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WHEN, WHEN WE INTERVIEW FOUR PEOPLE, BECAUSE ONLY FOUR PEOPLE APPLIED, BUT SEVEN PEOPLE WHEN 13 PEOPLE APPLY IS IT BECOMES DISCRIMINATORY.

EVEN IF YOU, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU INTEND, THE OUTCOME IS YOU ARE ONLY INTERVIEWING X AMOUNT OF THIS ONE.

THAT'S THE NATURE OF IT.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT IS DISCRIMINATORY.

THAT'S WHAT INTERVIEWING AND PARING DOWN IS YOU ARE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST SOME PEOPLE WHO YOU DO NOT SELECT FOR PEOPLE THAT YOU DO.

THAT'S WHAT THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, BUT WHAT EVERYBODY JUST SAID WAS, OH, THEN WHEN THERE'S ONLY FOUR, IT'S NOT THAT HARD.

BUT WHEN THERE'S 13, WE ONLY WANT TO DO SEVEN.

THAT WAS NOT THE REASON YOU PREVIOUSLY GAVE.

IT WAS, OH, WE CAN'T DO TOO MANY AT ONE TIME.

NOT THAT IT'S INTENTIONAL, BUT WHAT YOU CAN LOOK LIKE, AND FROM THE PERSON ON THE OUTSIDE IS THAT YOU'RE NOT GIVING EVERYBODY A FAIR CHANCE.

WELL, BUT IF IT WAS FOUR AND YOU ONLY SELECT ONE, YOU INTERVIEWED EVERYONE.

THEY COULD SAY, WELL, WHY DIDN'T YOU GIVE ME A CHANCE TO BEING INTERVIEWED? AS, I MEAN, ONLY ONE WAS SELECTED OUT OF 13, WE FOLLOWED A PROCESS TO NARROW IT DOWN.

IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE PROCESS, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE, WHAT IT IS.

WE CAN DEBATE THIS UNTIL WE'RE BLUE IN THE FACE.

BUT JUST IF WE WANT TO REQUIRE MORE INTERVIEWS, LET'S PUT IT IN THE POLICY.

AND OBVIOUSLY, AND THE DISCRIMINATION IS ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS.

WELL, I DON'T BUY THAT EITHER.

BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOKED AT MY SCHOOL TRANSCRIPTS, YOU WOULD HAVE NO IDEA THAT I HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE BECAUSE I DON'T TEST VERY WELL.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE IN LET'S LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF PAPER AND MAKE ALL OUR JUDGMENTS BASED UPON THAT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.

YOUR QUALIFICATIONS DO NOT CONSTITUTE IF YOU'RE PERSONABLE, WILLING TO LISTEN, OR IF YOU WORK WELL WITH OTHERS.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY BROUGHT, THEY BROUGHT IN, UH, WELL, ORIGINALLY IT WAS FIVE.

IT WENT DOWN TO, OH, SORRY, SORRY.

BROUGHT IN FOUR AND INTERVIEWED

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THEM TO BREAK DOWN THAT PROCESS.

BUT THEY LOOKED AT ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS.

THESE WERE THE FIVE MORE QUALIFIED WE NEEDED ONE.

SO LET'S, LET'S INTERVIEW THESE FIVE TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS PERSONABLE.

WHICH ONE? YES.

AND IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

IT'S, WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT THE BULLET POINTS ON A, ON AN APPLICATION.

IT'S ALSO LIKE, HOW WELL DID THEY FILL IT OUT? UM, ARE THEY, HOW WELL DID THEY FILL OUT? DID THEY JUST GET IT? CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THESE REALLY FANCY RESUMES AND THEY JUST BLAST THEM OUT EVERYWHERE VERSUS PEOPLE WHO TOOK TIME TO APPLY.

SO YOU GET YOU DOING, THIS IS NOT A JOB PEOPLE.

AREN'T GOING TO BE LIKE, OH, I'M A BLAST THIS OUT TO EVERY COMMITTEE I CAN GET ON.

I MEAN, I REALLY TRULY FEEL LIKE IF PEOPLE ARE APPLYING FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, QUALITY OF THE APPLICATIONS ARE NOT THE SAME FOR ALL 13, REGARDLESS OF THE ACTUAL BULLETS, THEM, THE INTENTION.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT IT IS.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH YOUR, DID YOU FILL OUT EVERYTHING OR JUST SOME OF IT, IT'S JUST A PROCESS.

SO WE GO THROUGH IT IS SUBJECTIVE.

YOU CAN'T SCORE IT.

YOU CAN'T MAKE IT A PERFECT SITUATION.

IT JUST, IT IS.

OR I MEAN YOU CAN, BUT IT JUST CREATES.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.

I GUESS THIS IS MY POINT, BUT WE TRY OUR VERY BEST.

EVERY NOMINATING CON GROUP TRIES THEIR VERY BEST TO NARROW IT DOWN IN A FAIR AND RESPONSIBLE MANNER.

THAT'S WHAT THIS ONE WAS.

THERE WAS NO PREJUDICE TOWARDS THE NARROWING DOWN, BUT THAT THE, ULTIMATELY, IF THE NOMINEES ARE NOT GOOD, THEY GET VOTED AGAINST HERE.

AND THAT'S PART OF IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET ANY INFORMATION AND YOU DON'T GET TO VOTE ON IT THE WAY YOU'D LIKE TO.

SO MY WHOLE POINT IS, IF YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE OF SOME PEOPLE THINKING THERE'S FAVORITISM.

HOW OFTEN DID THESE FOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS CHANGE? THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE MIGHT LIKE LOOK INTO BECAUSE AT THE SAME PEOPLE ARE PICKING THE SAME APPLICATIONS EVERY SINGLE TIME.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S REALLY GOING TO LEAVE AN OPEN, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET THE SAME PEOPLE THAT THESE, THESE PEOPLE WANT.

RIGHT? WELL, KOONS HIS IDEA OF KYLE MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN MINE OR FROM DEXIS OR FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S.

BUT IF ALL THE SAME PEOPLE ARE PICKING THE SAME APPLICATIONS THAT'S MIGHT CAUSE A PROBLEM.

IT'S IT'S 12, 10.

WE NEED TO COME UP WITH EITHER SOMETHING OR MOVE ON.

UM, I'M, I'M TIRED OF THIS CONVERSATION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY ABOUT IT, BUT WE'RE JUST ARGUING.

WE'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE OF THE P AND Z NOW, AND PROCESS, I GOT PLENTY TO BE MAD WITH REGARDS TO P AND Z RIGHT NOW AND THIS COUNCIL.

AND LET ME JUST REMIND YOU REAL QUICK, MAYOR REAL QUICK.

THIS IS THE SAME POLICY THAT THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN VOTING ON THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR AWHILE.

WHY THE CHANGE NOW? I MEAN, WHY NOT DO THIS WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY, WHEN YOU FIRST, ORIGINALLY STARTED HERE, WHY NOT ADDRESS IT THEN? WHY NOW? AND I KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE WE PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH, BUT IT'S THE SAME POLICY HAS BEEN IN PLACE.

IT'S BEEN HERE.

I MEAN, RIGHT.

AND IF THE POLICY IS FOLLOWED, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE POLICY.

ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR EVERYBODY TO BE INTERVIEWED, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE BRINGING UP PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR A WHILE.

HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THINGS COME UP THAT YOU'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL AND THEN YOU EVENTUALLY GET TO IT.

IT'S JUST, IT'S THE NATURE OF IT.

YOU, YOU SPEND TIME ON IT, YOU HAVE VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS YOU DO.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE THAT I'M BRINGING UP NOW.

SECONDLY, THERE'S NOWHERE IN THE POLICY THAT IT STATES FOR AN A FILE TO EXIST OF A RECOMMENDATION OF THE PEOPLE TO BE INTERVIEWED.

SO THAT, THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT IS WHAT CREATES A PERCEPTION THAT, THAT THINGS AREN'T, IF PEOPLE CAN READ THE POLICY AND KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT THEN AN ADDITIONAL STEP WAS ADDED.

THAT THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

AND, AND I GET IT, MARY YOU'RE YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAD ABOUT THIS.

I YOU'RE.

UM, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE.

THIS WAS SOMETHING I WAS HOPING WE COULD, WE COULD WORK OUT AND HAVE A CIVIL DISCUSSION ABOUT JUST, JUST FALL INTO POLICY BECAUSE AS IT READS IT, IF THAT'S BEING DONE AS IT IS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

CERTAINLY NOT ADVOCATING FOR EVERYBODY TO BE INTERVIEWED, CERTAINLY NOT ADVOCATING FOR US TO SEE ALL THE APPLICATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, POLICY READS, ONE THING, ADDITIONAL STEPS WERE TAKEN THE FILE SHOULDN'T HAVE EXISTED ABOUT THE NARROWING DOWN.

JUST LET THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE A PART OF IT OR THEIR DESIGNEES, SEE ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND THE DETERMINED TO INTERVIEW.

SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT COUNCIL? MARISSA, I'LL BE BRINGING THIS AGENDA ITEM BACK WITH LANGUAGE OF, OKAY.

NEXT ITEM.

YOU WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE FOR ME? YOU WANT ME TO? YEP.

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ITEM 27 APPROVAL OF THAT CONEYS TRAIL, WORKFORCE HOUSING PAYMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

UM,

[27. Approval of Balcones Trail Workforce Housing Payment and Development Agreement. ~ James R. Earp, Assistant City Manager]

UH, JAMES R OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, JEFFREY SCOTT SELLERS IS, IS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT FROM HERE.

SURE WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, THERE'S FOUR OF US.

UH, OH, FIVE, FIVE, FOUR ON THE DICE.

SO THE MAYOR HAD RECUSED HIMSELF FROM THIS ITEM.

SO IT COUNTS WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR A WORKFORCE HOUSING ITEM.

UH, I WILL SAY THAT THE, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN A TROOPER AND HAS STUCK WITH US THROUGH THIS WHOLE MEETING.

SO IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

SHOULD YOU HAVE THEM? UH, THIS ITEM IS, UH, A AS I MENTIONED, WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, UH, BEING PROPOSED FOR PHILOMENA AND, UH, BASICALLY ACROSS FROM THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY ON PHILOMENA, UH, PER THE AGREEMENT, SEVERAL ITEMS, JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF IN THE AGREEMENT.

AND SO WITH THAT UP, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ASK IS, WELL, WHAT, WHAT LEVEL OF, OF, UH, SUBSIDY? SO THIS PROJECT HAS 276 UNITS OF WHICH 50% OF THE UNITS ARE RESTRICTED TO AN AREA MEDIAN INCOME OF 50% OR LESS.

AND THEN THE OTHER 50% OF THE UNITS RESTRICTED TO TENANTS HAVING AN AMI OR AREA MEDIAN INCOME OF 70% OR LESS.

SO THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THE, UH, OF THE, UH, LEVEL OF SUBSIDY.

UH, THIS PROPERTY WILL BE TAKEN DOWN, UH, BY THE CAPITAL AREA, HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, AND THEN THEY WILL IN TURN, ENTER INTO A LEASE WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT HAVE, WHO WILL THEN OPERATE THIS FACILITY FOR, UH, THE LIFE OF THE FACILITY THERE.

UH, THE APPLICANT WILL PAY ALL ASSOCIATED FEES TO THE CITY, INCLUDING A, UH, WHAT IS CALLED AN ALTERNATE FEE IN, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF $2.5 MILLION.

UH, THE WAY THESE HOUSING, UH, PROGRAMS WORK IS BECAUSE THEY'RE LEASING IT FROM THE CAPILLARY HOUSING, FINANCE AUTHORITY.

THEY DON'T PAY TAXES, THAT'S A TAX EXEMPT ENTITY.

SO IN LIEU OF PAYING AN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX TO THE TAXING ENTITIES, THEY COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF AN ALTERNATE PAYMENT STRUCTURE IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE $2.5 MILLION FOR THE FIRST 20 YEARS AFTER WHICH THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME WILL THEN ENTER BACK INTO NEGOTIATION ON WHAT'S CALLED A PILOT PAYMENT, WHICH IS A PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES.

AND, UH, ASSUMING THAT, UH, GOES THROUGH THAT'S GREAT.

UH, THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT, ASSUMING, UH, THE TWO PARTIES CAN'T REACH AN AGREEMENT AT THE TIME.

THEN THE DEFAULT WILL BE $150,000 PILOT PAYMENT TO THE CITY, UH, AND THAT WILL ESCALATE, UH, EACH YEAR BASED ON THE, UH, CPI AND, UH, A MINIMUM CASH PAYMENT.

UH, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN INTERESTED IN IN THIS PROJECT.

UH, YOU'LL SEE, IN SECTION EIGHT H UH, THEY WILL HAVE A WEATHERIZATION PLAN AND A RECYCLING PROGRAM.

SO BOTH ARE BEING REQUIRED.

UH, THE WEATHERIZATION PLAN WILL INCLUDE FIRE SUPPRESSION OR INSULATING FIRE SUPPRESSION PIPING, UH, DEVELOPER WILL ALSO SHOW, UH, ADHERENCE TO PRINCIPLES OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE USE OF PERMEABLE PAVERS.

UH, THIS IS A GATED DEVELOPMENT, SO THEY WILL HAVE A MASTER METER OUTSIDE THE GATE FOR THEIR RESIDENTS.

THERE WILL BE A SIX FOOT TALL DECORATIVE FENCE AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE HIGH POINTS OF THE AGREEMENT.

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AND JAKE MUSE IS HERE.

UH, ALSO HE'S THE APPLICANT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO SCOTT, IT'S A 2.5 MILLION UP FRONT FOR THE PILOT FOR THE FIRST 20 YEARS, CORRECT.

AND THEN $150,000, PLUS A $1,500 ESCALATOR, CORRECT.

CAPTOR, NO CAP.

UH, THAT IS THE DEFAULT THAT IS SHELL INCREASED 1500 ANNUALLY THROUGH AND INCLUDING YOUR 25.

UH, SO THAT IS ONLY IN CASE WE CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT.

SO IF THE 1500 IS KEPT FOR, AND IN CASE WE CAN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITHIN FIVE YEARS.

UH, WITHIN 180 DAYS PRIOR TO THE AGREEMENT EXPIRING.

SO SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE 20 YEARS EXPIRING, WE'LL SIT BACK TO THE TABLE AND RENEGOTIATE WHAT THIS PAYMENT WITH THE PILOT SHOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND IN THE EVENT THAT BOTH PARTIES STILL CAN'T COME TO THAT AGREEMENT, THEN THE $150,000 IS THE MINIMUM PAYMENT BASICALLY IS THE PAYMENT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, UH, THAT, THAT IS A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD AT WHICH POINT, THE TWO PARTIES NEGOTIATE AGAIN, UH, AT YEAR 25.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO PAY 150,000 IN YOUR 21 THROUGH 25.

NO, NO, NO.

OVER A YEAR, PER YEAR, PER YEAR WITH A 5,000, HUNDRED DOLLAR ESCALATOR ON EACH YEAR.

SO IN YEAR 25, IT'S WHATEVER THAT IS, WHATEVER THE MATH IS THERE, 59.

UM, AND THEN WE, WE NEGOTIATE FOR ANOTHER DEAL THAT COUNCIL IN THAT, UH, IN YOUR 25, AND IF THEY DON'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT, IT'S CAPPED AT THE ONE 50 PLUS WHATEVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS OF THE ESCALATOR HAS BEEN HERE, WE'LL JUST KEEP GOING UP THAT 1500.

SO IT'LL KEEP GOING UP TO 1500 EVERY YEAR, PAST THE FIVE YEARS AND INCLUDING YOUR 25 AND THE EVENT PARTIES UNABLE TO AGREE TO ESTABLISH PILOT, UH, IN, OR AFTER YOUR 26TH TO PILOT PILOT PAYMENT FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE RENEWED PAYMENT EXTENSION TERM SHALL BE EQUAL TO THE DEFAULT PILOT, WHICH IS THE ONE 50, WHICH WILL BE ADJUSTED FOR CPI FOR EACH FIVE-YEAR PAYMENT EXTENSION FOLLOWING YOUR 25.

SO INSTEAD OF A $1,500 INCREASE, IT'LL INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE BASED ON THE CPI.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO.

WELL, I WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MARIBEL TAM I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.

UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

NOPE.

SECOND, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WHAT IS IT? OH MAN.

WE SAID ALSO THAT I STILL WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

MANY MANAGERS REPORT PRESENTATION OF OUR SUPPORT.

TRUST ME.

I'M RIGHT WITH YOU.

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Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager

Community Survey

Upcoming Budget Dates FY 2021-22

COVID-19 Testing and Vaccine update

Business Booster webinar

Kyle Mass Food Distribution Event

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