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[00:00:01]

RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

[I.  Call Meeting to Order]

THE TIME IS 7:04 PM.

IT IS TUESDAY, JULY 20TH.

AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WOULD ALL.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, BUT THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL HERE, COACH HERE.

ALISON PRESIDENT FLORES, KALE HERE, RIZZO BRADSHAW HERE, HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ALL MEMBERS PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM NEXT UP

[II.  Approval of Minutes]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JULY SIX, SPECIAL MEETING AND ALSO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

SAME DAY, LIKE, ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILOR.

TOBIA SECOND ABOUT COUNCIL RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JULY 6TH.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO EXCEPT

[III.  Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

CITIZEN COMMENTS PERIOD.

AT THIS TIME, I ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM.

PLEASE DO.

SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AND THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT IT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.

I DO NOT HAVE ANY, UH, FORMS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AS OF YET.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? OKAY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

YES.

MY NAME IS WESLEY MATTHEWS.

I'M WITH THE HAYES COUNTY EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND SO WHAT I WAS WANTING TO DO IS JUST, UM, ADVISE EVERYBODY THAT HAYES COUNTY WENT AHEAD AND THEY RECEIVED THAT EMERGENCY FEDERAL EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND THEY DECIDED TO DO IT IN-HOUSE.

SO WE CREATED A NEW PROGRAM IN-HOUSE WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO ASSIST ANYONE THAT IN THE PAST THAT HAS PASSED RENT DUE TO COVID.

AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE CREATED FLYERS THAT ARE ALL A CUE CARD, READY? CUE CODE ON A QR CODE, READY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GO OUT NOW AND GET THEM SENT OUT TO.

ALL RIGHT, PERFECT.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT THERE AND START PROMOTING THE PROGRAM AND GETTING IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUT THE BEST.

THE WAY THE WHOLE PROGRAM IS SET UP, THAT ANYONE COULD SIT THERE RIGHT HERE AND THEY CAN SIT DOWN AND USE THEIR CELL PHONE, OR THEY COULD HELP SOMEBODY APPLY AND CREATE A TICKET.

AS SOON AS THEY CREATE THAT TICKET, WE GET NOTIFIED AND GET AN EMAIL AND WE'RE ABLE TO RUN THROUGH THAT.

WE'RE DOING THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.

ONE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE SENDING OUT LETTERS TO ALL THE DISTRICT COURTS.

SO THAT WAY ANY EVICTION THAT GOES THROUGH THERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A NOTICE THAT WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM.

WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRY AND ASSIST TO WE'RE CONTACTING ALL THE LANDLORDS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT ARE RENTING OUT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT ASSISTS THREE, REACHING OUT TO LIKE THE LIBRARY CITY COUNCILS AND EVERYONE TO SAY, LET'S TRY AND BECOME A PARTNERSHIP, GET THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANYONE THAT'S WANTING TO HELP WITH RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

OUR HAS PEOPLE THAT COME TO THEM, CONTACT US SO WE CAN GIVE YOU INFORMATION FLYERS AND THINGS TO ADVERTISE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, JERRY.

WOULD YOU MIND FOLLOWING UP WITH HIM TO GET INFORMATION SO YOU CAN SEND THAT TO US? YEAH.

THIS ONE, WE'LL GET IT.

UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS AND COMMENTS PERIOD.

IT'S NOW CLOSED.

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[3.  Presentation on Crisis Counseling Assistance and Training Program for Youth and Adolescents "Supporting Mental Well-Being During Covid-19" - Texas Recovering Together Team - Ms. Myla Peterson and Celyne Diaz. ~ Michael Tobias, Council Member]

THREE, PRESENTATION ON CRISIS COUNSELING ASSISTANCE AND TRAINING PROGRAM FOR YOUTH AND ADOLESCENTS SUPPORTING MENTAL WELLBEING DURING COVID-19.

UH, THIS IS THE TEXAS TOGETHER, UH, TEXAS RECOVERING TOGETHER TEAM MS. MYLA PETERSON AND UM, MS. DIAZ.

AND THIS IS COUNSELOR TOBY.

YES.

THANK YOU, MARY MITCHELL.

UH, JUST WANT TO BREATHE THIS OUT REAL QUICK.

IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN A YEAR NOW SINCE THE CORONAVIRUS COVID-19 PANDEMIC STRUCK THE UNITED STATES, INCLUDING OUR COMMUNITY WITH A HUNGRY A YEAR OF HUNKERING DOWN, SOCIAL ISOLATION, MASS SQUARING AT HOME, VIRTUAL LEARNING FOR STUDENTS, INCLUDING AN UNPREDICTABLE ECONOMIC AND PERSONAL WELLNESS FUTURE.

THIS PANDEMIC TOOK ITS TOLL ON EVERYONE.

AS WE LOOK BACK TO LAST SUMMER, WE KNEW THIS WOULD BE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME.

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WE, WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW DIFFICULT WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T KNOW.

THE CHALLENGE COVID-19 WOULD HAVE A LASTING EFFECT, EVEN THOUGH VACCINES ARE READILY AVAILABLE.

THE PANDEMIC STILL GOES ON TODAY IN DOING SOME RESEARCH, I FOUND AN APRIL, 2021 ARTICLE WRITTEN BY DR.

JOSHUA GORDON DIRECTORS AND DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MENTAL HEALTH.

HE STATED IN THE IMMEDIATE WAKE OF THE TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE, LARGE NUMBERS OF AFFECTED PEOPLE, EXPERIENCED DISTRESS, INCLUDING NEW OR WORSENING SYMPTOMS OF DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, AND INSOMNIA.

HE GOES ON TO SAY, MOST PEOPLE WILL RECOVER THOUGH.

RECOVERY CAN TAKE SOME TIME.

A NOTABLE FRACTION OF PEOPLE WILL DEVELOP CHRONIC SYMPTOMS SEVERE ENOUGH TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR MENTAL ILLNESS, SUCH AS PTSD POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER OR OTHER MAJOR DISRUPTIVE ORDERS.

PEOPLE EXPERIENCING MORE SEVERE STRESSORS, UH, SUCH AS EXPOSURE TO SOCIAL MEDIA GRAPHIC OR DISTURBING IMAGES ON TV AND THE TRAFFIC AND THE TRAGIC EXPERIENCE OF FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS SEVERELY SICK OR HAVE LOST LOVED ONES DUE TO THE COVID 19 PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP CHRONIC OR SEVERE REACTIONS IF THEY HAVE ONE OR MORE OF THESE RISK FACTORS, SUCH AS LACK OF SOCIAL SUPPORT, FOOD OR HOUSING, INSTABILITY, OR PREHISTORY MENTAL HEALTH.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE STUDY SHOWED THAT FOOD INSUFFICIENCY WAS INDEPENDENTLY ASSOCIATED WITH SYMPTOMS OF POOR MENTAL HEALTH, JOB LOSS, HOUSING, INSTABILITY, FOOD INSECURITY, AND OTHER RISK FACTORS HAVE AFFECTED EVEN THE MINORITY COMMUNITIES ON THAT.

WITH A POSITIVE NOTE, I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR CITY COUNCILMAN ROBERT RIZO FOR BRINGING FORTH THE EFFORTS IN BUILDING A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CENTRAL TEXAS FOOD BANK, WORKING ALONGSIDE THE CITY OF KYLE COMMUNITY AND MANY STUDENT VOLUNTEERS.

WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE A MONTHLY FOOD DISTRIBUTION AS A FORM OF SOCIAL SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WITH PROLONGED DISRUPTIONS AND ALSO LIKELY EXPERIENCED IN DURING SYMPTOMS. HOWEVER, I FEEL THAT OF FINDING LOCAL RESOURCES THAT CAN ASSIST THESE INDIVIDUALS, EXPERIENCING THESE ISSUES, THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM SOME TYPE OF INTERVENTION.

IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT FINDING RESOURCES AND COUNSELING TO OUR MOST VULNERABLE, OUR YOUTH AND ADOLESCENTS, I BELIEVE RECEIVING COUNSELING OR SOCIAL SERVICES SUPPORT AND USING COPING STRATEGIES CAN LOWER THESE RISKS AND MAXIMIZE A PERSONNEL'S CHANCES FOR FULL RECOVERY.

THIS BRINGS US TODAY TO THE TEXAS RECOVERING TOGETHER.

IT IS A CRISIS COUNSELING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT HAS LOCAL ERIE WAITING TO ASSIST OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR GUEST FOR THIS EVENING, THIS MYRA PETERSON FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE SERVICES THEY CAN PROVIDE FOR OUR CITY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START EXPLAINING OUR PROGRAM, WHICH IS CALLED TEXANS RECOVERING TOGETHER, BUT IT IS A PART OF THE CRISIS COUNSELING ASSISTANCE AND TRAINING PROGRAM, NOT MOVING.

OH, OKAY.

SORRY GUYS.

OKAY.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE CTP PROGRAM, IT'S LONGER NAME IS CRISIS COUNSELING ASSISTANCE AND TRAINING PROGRAM.

THIS IS A FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM, UM, BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY KNOWN AS FEMA.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY FEMA GIVES US THAT MONEY, WHICH ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE THOSE FREE MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES AND SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE DO SERVICE.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, TEXAS IS THE LONESTAR STAY.

WE ARE SUPER INDEPENDENT AND WE ARE PRIDEFUL IN THAT.

SO TEXAS IS CCP PROGRAM IS CALLED TEXANS RECOVERING TOGETHER, AND IT PROVIDES THE EXACT SAME THINGS TO THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT THE PRESIDENT DECLARED THE DISASTER.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE PANDEMIC WAS SOMETHING THAT AFFECTED EVERYONE GLOBALLY.

SO EVERYONE IN TEXAS IS ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS PROGRAM AND ITS SERVICES.

UM, AND WE ARE SPONSORED BY A LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, WHICH IS OVER HERE, WHICH IS HILL COUNTRY MAGD OR HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES CENTER.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY HOW COUNTRY I'M HTD IS A NON-PROFIT MENTAL HEALTH AGENCY.

IT IS ALSO THE LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY.

UM, THE L M H A IS HOW I'LL REFERENCE IT.

AND SO WE COVER THEIR SAME COUNTIES.

THEY HAVE 19 COUNTIES IN HILL COUNTRY, TEXAS.

THOSE COUNTIES ARE SHOWN HERE.

UM, AND SO OUR CCP PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY BASED OUT OF SAN MARCUS.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE CCP PROGRAMS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

UM, RECENTLY WE WERE APPROVED AGAIN FOR OUR GRANT TO GO UP UNTIL JANUARY 30TH.

SO AFTER THAT, THE SERVICES WILL NO LONGER BE, UM, PROVIDED, BUT THESE ARE THE COUNTIES WE'RE SERVICING AND THEN YOU FORGETTING, OKAY.

AND SO THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE WHO DO WE SERVE? SO

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WE SERVE JUST ABOUT ANYONE IN OUR CATCHMENT AREA THAT IS WITHIN THAT CATCHMENT AREA OF HILL COUNTRY.

I'M HTD OUR LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH AUTHORITY, BUT LET'S SAY SOMEONE CAME TO US AND WANTED SERVICES REGARDING MENTAL HEALTH OR WANTED RESOURCES BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING A CRISIS.

UM, WE WOULD REFER THEM TO THEIR APPROPRIATE CCP PROGRAM IN THEIR COMMUNITY, OR IF THERE WASN'T ONE AVAILABLE TO THEM, WE WOULD REFER THEM AND GIVE THEM LINKAGE TO THOSE RESOURCES AND SERVICES.

UM, AND SO MAYA'S GONNA TALK US THROUGH SOME OF THOSE, THOSE THAT WE'VE SERVICED.

OKAY.

SO, AND THEN CAL FOR HAVING THIS TODAY, AND THIS IS JUST A FEW OF MANY, UM, PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE CREATED AND SERVED WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THE FIRST PICTURE HERE IS WITH SOME LADIES IN DEL RIO, TEXAS, AND THIS IS A SUPPORT GROUP WHO HAVE, UM, THEY'RE STRUGGLING THROUGH LOSING THE LOVED ONE THROUGH COVID OR JUST, UM, MAYBE A TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED.

SO WE ALSO HELP WITH THAT.

WE'VE HELPED WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD, THE FOOD BANK IN CARMEL COUNTY.

WE ALSO SERVE HAYES COUNTY THAT'S AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN DIFFERENT COMMUNITY, UM, EVENTS.

AND OF COURSE, UH, OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, AS WELL AS WE, UM, DID A JUNIOR POLICE ACADEMY IN KERRVILLE, TEXAS WITH THE GROUP OF STUDENTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT.

WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE SAN MARCUS, UM, UM, CIS THEME WITH THE REBOUND STUDENTS DOING A PRESENTATION WITH THEM AND THE HAYES COUNTY JUNETEENTH FOUNDATION.

WE ALSO WERE A PART OF THAT.

SO WE WELCOME ALL OF OUR SERVICES TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S ALL FREE.

AND LIKE I'M CELINE SHARED WITH YOU.

IT IS, UH, FUNDED THROUGH FEMA.

ALL RIGHT.

SO JUST TO WRAP US UP REAL QUICK.

SO SOME OF THOSE SERVICES AND RESOURCES WE DO OFFER ARE FIRSTLY CCP MARKETING ITEMS, WHICH IS A LOT OF WHAT WE DID AT THE BEGINNING OF, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOCIAL DISTANCING WEREN'T ALLOWED TO BE IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE MARKETING ITEMS AND EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL, UM, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

AND PSYCHOEDUCATIONAL MATERIAL, UM, WHICH TALKS ABOUT VARIOUS MENTAL HEALTH TOPICS IN A BROCHURE OR A FLYER OR A ONE PAGER, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

UM, WE ALSO DO A PSYCHOEDUCATIONAL PRESENTATIONS WHERE WE COME OUT AND WE TALK ABOUT A VARIOUS TOPIC THAT AN INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE MIGHT NEED DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALSO DO INDIVIDUAL SKILL SPACE COUNSELING SESSIONS, AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION REAL QUICK, UM, OUR POSITIONS, OUR OUTREACH CRISIS COUNSELORS.

SO OUR JOBS ARE TO GET, GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, CALL ORGANIZATIONS AND ASK, WOULD YOU LIKE THESE SERVICES? AND THEY SAY YES OR NO.

AND THEN WE GO OUT THERE AND PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

UM, BUT WE ARE NOT LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELORS BY ANY MEANS.

WE JUST PROVIDE WAYS FOR THEM TO COPE THROUGH THE DISASTERS OR CRISIS THAT THEY MAY BE GOING THROUGH THROUGH COPING SKILLS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY SKILLS-BASED COUNSELING SESSIONS AND WE DO THOSE FOR INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE A FREE MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT LINE THAT'S AVAILABLE 24 7 IT'S COMPLETELY FREE.

AND WHEN THEY CALL, THEY GET PAIRED WITH A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL.

AND IF ALL OF THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE WANTED AND THEY WANT ASSISTANCE AND REFERRALS AND LINKAGES TO THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES, WE DO THAT AS WELL.

AND SO THOSE WERE ALL OF OUR SERVICES AND RESOURCES OFFERED.

AND THAT NUMBER FOR THE 24 HOUR HOTLINE IS RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP AT ONE EIGHT, THAT 1 808 NUMBER.

UM, AND SO ALL YOU GUYS HAVE LEFT TO DO IS ASK YOURSELF A QUESTION.

DO YOU, DO YOU YOURSELF, OR DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT'S STRUGGLING DUE TO COVID OR DUE TO GRIEF AND LOSS, OR JUST ALL OF THE STRESS FROM THIS PAST YEAR? AND IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES, THE CCP PROGRAM IS HERE TO HELP YOU ALL AND PROVIDE YOU THOSE SERVICES AND RESOURCES, YOU MIGHT BE NEEDING TO ADEQUATELY RECOVER FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH.

AND SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SET UP ANY SERVICES, OUR TEAM LEAD IS LAUREN MITCHELL.

THAT'S HER NUMBER AND EMAIL.

YOU CAN SET UP SERVICES THROUGH THERE, AND THAT'S ALL WE HAD FOR Y'ALL.

WE DO WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING, OH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US HERE AND TAKING AN INTEREST IN OUR SERVICES AND LETTING US SPREAD THE WORD, UM, UH, TEXANS RECOVERING TOGETHER AND OUR CCP PROGRAM.

AND WE GET THAT LAST ONE.

YOU SO MUCH, SORRY.

YOU HAD TO FIGHT THE FEEDBACK THERE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE'LL START MR. WC.

UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE.

THERE ARE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO FIND ON THE CITY WEBSITE, IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS NEEDING ASSISTANCE WHEN IT COMES TO THE COVID, UH, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT.

AND THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IS, UM, HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME FAMILY MEMBERS AND SOME FRIENDS, UH, WE'RE ABOUT READY TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL VERY SHORT, VERY SOON.

AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME STUDENTS THAT, UH, I'VE HEARD ABOUT FROM FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE VERY NERVOUS AND VERY ANXIOUS GOING BACK.

BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE NEWS ABOUT A NEW VARIANCE.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE ABOUT POSSIBLE MASS.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE ARE, BUT I'M JUST, IT'S

[00:15:01]

OUT THERE.

AND, UH, DURING OUR PEACE AND PROGRESS, UH, EVENT THAT COUNCILMAN ELLISON HAD, HE HAD, UH, A PERSON ON THE PANEL THAT MS. CURRY THAT STATED THAT HER ANXIETY WITH THAT SHE WAS MOST NERVOUS AND MOST, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT WERE HER STUDENTS, UH, THAT HAD BEEN AT HOME DURING THE PANDEMIC AND THE STRESSES AND THE ANXIETY THAT THEY'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH.

SO THIS IS WHY I BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

SO THAT WAY OUR RESIDENTS CAN KNOW THAT THERE ARE SERVICES OUT THERE AVAILABLE.

YOU'RE NOT ALONE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME STUDENTS AND JUST PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING VETERANS, UH, OR ELDERLY, AND JUST OURSELVES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH SOME CRISIS.

AND JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE THAT SERVICE AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANYONE ELSE HAVE YOU COMMENTARY CUSTOMERS? YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WORRY WHAT WE LOST AS, AS, AS, UH, AS, AS A CITY BEING SECLUDED, BEING ISOLATED.

UM, WHAT ARE PEOPLE GOING TO BE LIKE WHEN THEY COME OUT OF THE ISOLATION OF BEING DURING A PANDEMIC? AND I I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF, UM, SAUDI NOW BEING DIFFERENT.

I, WHAT I SEE ON THE HIGHWAYS IS DIFFERENT.

I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE GUILTY OF THAT AS WELL, BUT, UH, DEFINITELY PEOPLE'S ATTITUDES HAD CHANGED.

THEIR, THEIR DRIVING HABITS HAVE CHANGED.

UM, AND ALSO THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR SOCIETY.

UM, THE ELDERLY THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO, UH, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HAVE EXPLAINED THEIR FEARS AND HAVING A RESOURCE THERE WHERE THEY CAN CALL THAT THEY COULD MAYBE HAVE SOME OF THAT, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE ANSWERED OR EVEN JUST HEARING A VOICE WOULD BE GREAT.

SO I'M GLAD THERE'S RESOURCES OUT THERE.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO ANYONE ELSE HERE? COUNCILOR ALISON, SORRY.

YES.

UH, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE, AS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK SOMETIMES WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT THIS IS, IS, COULD BE A POTENTIAL PROBLEM AND, UH, SOMETIMES IT IS KIND OF LEFT BEHIND.

SO I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS AWARENESS FORWARD AND, AND, AND, UH, SPONSORING THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MS. DIAZ AND PETERSON FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

UH, IF WE COULD, I'M NOT SURE WHO YOUR CONTACT HERE IS WITH THE CITY, BUT IF WE COULD GET YOUR POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, I'D LOVE TO, AND I KNOW COUNCIL PROBABLY WOULD LOVE TO HELP, UH, SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

AND I KNOW THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS MENTIONED, WE ALSO HAVE SOME ITEMS ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL.

SO JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT IS THE BEST THING, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE CAN DO AS ELECTED OFFICIALS WITH OUR REACH AND OUR PLATFORM.

SO IF WE CAN HELP IN ANY WAY, UH, HAPPY TO DO SO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[4.  CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

ALL RIGHT, NEXT STEP.

I DO NOT NUMBER FOUR CIP ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.

MR. BARBA, MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.

START OFF WITH THE CHARLESTON.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO WRAP THIS PROJECT UP.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU, OUR PROJECT MANAGER IS GETTING VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS, BUT SHE KEEPS WORKING AT IT, SO, OKAY.

HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK.

UH, DOES IT LOOK LIKE THE POND THAT WE HAD THERE A FEW MONTHS AGO, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ARE.

THEY'RE ABOUT 2% COMPLETE, UH, UH, THAT LITTLE LIGHT BLUE, UH, CRESCENT SHAPED, UH, FIGURE THAT YOU SEE IN THERE.

THAT'S THE SPRING THAT THEY'VE UNCOVERED AS THEY WERE DIGGING.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESOLVE THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

THAT, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WATER IS CRYSTAL CLEAR.

SO, UH, THEY MAY EXPLAIN WHY WE NEVER COULD FIGURE OUT HOW THAT PALM WAS ALWAYS SEEMED TO HAVE WATER IN IT ALL THE TIME, EVEN DURING A DROUGHT.

SO MAYBE THAT'S THE REASON I'M ALL GOOD ABOUT HAVING A CRYSTAL CLEAR POND.

WE'RE SURE IT'S NOT A WATERLINE, RIGHT? NO, SIR.

IT'S NOT A WATER LINE.

UH, UPTOWN, CENTRAL PARK.

THE, THAT THEY'VE MOVED THE NOTION PROCEED DATE TO JULY 26TH.

YEAH, I SAW THAT ON THE, I WAS, I THOUGHT IT WAS SOONER THAN THAT, BUT THEY MOVED IT BACK.

YES, SIR.

IT WAS EARLIER THAN THAT, BUT THEY DID MOVE IT.

THAT'S THE LATEST INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.

OKAY.

UH, THIS IS MARY CAL HARTSON PARK PROJECT.

UH, IT'S ABOUT 10% COMPLETE.

THE LAYOUT IS COMPLETE FOR SIDEWALKS AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEY'RE ALMOST DONE WITH THE DEMOLITION ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT WHEN THE HEAL STRAIGHTENED RANCH PROJECT, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 71% COMPLETE.

UH, WE ARE DRIVING ON THE NORTH HALF OF WINDY HILL.

UH, THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON CHANGE ORDER NUMBER FOUR.

AND, UH, CURRENTLY THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME DITCH AND PERMANENT EROSION CONTROLS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLACING IN THERE.

UH, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE PLANNED PLANS TO OPEN THIS THING UP IN OCTOBER, 2021.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S STILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WILL BE LEFT, BUT THAT'S THE MAIN GOAL IS TO TRY AND GET THE THING

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SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

UH, THEY'RE ABOUT 84% COMPLETE DIDN'T CHANGE FROM THE LAST TIME.

UH, WE ARE WORKING IN FRONT OF THE ALEXANDER TRACKS AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE HEADING TOWARDS COUNTY ROAD 1 58 TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.

OKAY.

TREATMENT EXPANSION PROJECT.

UH, WE STILL ARE ENCOUNTERING ISSUES WITH THE RYAN, BUT THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO WORK SATURDAYS TO TRY TO SPEED UP THAT PROJECT AND STAY ON SCHEDULE.

UH, THEY'RE ABOUT 62% COMPLETE.

UH, AGAIN, UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THE RAIN AND WORKING ON THE WEEKENDS AS NECESSARY.

UH, THERE IS A D CONSTRUCTION IS ESTIMATE THAT IS IN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND REVIEWING THAT, UH, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL, UH, LATER.

UH, THERE'S NO CHANGES IN THE, AND WE STILL EXPECT TO HAVE THIS PLANT ONLINE IN MARCH OF 2022.

I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN CASE WE DID GO WITH THE THREE WITH THE DE-WATERING CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UM, THE PLANT WILL STILL BE EFFECTIVELY RUNNING MARCH OF 2022, BUT THE WORK WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE AFTER THAT TO INSTALL THAT DE-WATER CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, IF WE CHOOSE TO DO SO.

AND CREEK INTERCEPTOR, WE'RE AT 53% COMPLETE, UH, THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT BORING UNDERNEATH THE CREEK.

THAT'S UH, RIGHT NOW YOU CAN TELL IT'S FULL OF WATER, BUT THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT, UH, BORING THERE AT THE CREEK.

YEAH.

AND WELL, SITE NUMBER FOUR, ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO START WORK NEXT WEEK ON THE DOWNTOWN ELEVATED, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK PROBABLY ON THE LOGO AT THE WELL SITE FOR OH, POST ROAD.

THIS IS THE INTERSECTION THAT WE'D BEEN ABLE TO GET THE ALEXANDER'S DEGREE TO GIVE US THE RIGHT OF WAY AND GAVE SUSTAINS FOR THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.

I'M LEADING WITH THE ALEXANDERS THIS WEEK TO HAVE THEM HAVE ASKED THEM TO ALLOW US TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.

WE STILL NEED TO COMPLETE A WATER LINE THAT'S THERE, AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO ENCROACH ON THEIR PROPERTY.

SO WE HAD TO STOP RIGHT AT THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, DO WANT TO POINT OUT, WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT DIDN'T WANT TO CLOSE THIS ROAD AND DIDN'T HAVE TO OPEN IT AGAIN.

SO THAT'S WHY THE COUNTY IS NOT WORKING THERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING FOR US TO WRAP THIS UP.

SO HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK WE'LL BE ABLE TO START ON THAT, INSTALLING THAT WATER LINE SO THAT THE COUNTY CAN MOVE IN AND REDO THAT INTERSECTION FOR US.

ELLIOTT BRANCH INTERCEPTOR.

WE'RE ABOUT 26% COMPLETE, UH, WERE, UH, LEFT.

THE RAILROAD TRACKS ARE WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS SLEDGE COUNCIL AND MAYOR, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE HAVING ISSUES RIGHT NOW WITH SOME OF THE LARGE TRUCKS THAT ARE DRINKING, BRINGING MATERIALS IN TO THAT PROJECT.

THEY'RE HAVING TO COME DOWN SLEDGE AND WE'RE GETTING FOLKS THAT ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING THROUGH THERE.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE OTHERWISE TO GET IN THE CONTRACTOR LOUNGE TO BRING THAT GRAVEL AND MATERIAL IN THERE.

SO YOU CAN BUILD THAT PROJECT.

UH, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE IF MOBILE IS GOING TO BE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THAT PARTICULAR TRUCK ROUTE.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST ROUTE TO TRY TO NOT DISTURB THE NEIGHBORS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT WHAT, UH, TH TH THE UNFORTUNATE PART IS THAT ONCE WE LOST, WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE TO GO DOWN SLEDGE STREET ITSELF.

WE'RE AT THE ROAD'S GOING TO BE CLOSED EVENTUALLY.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TO DO WORK ON THIRD STREET, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS OR WATER LINES, WASTEWATER LINES, AND A RECLAIMED WATER LINE.

SO, UH, THERE'S A SAYING THAT THE BEST IS YOU HAVE TO COME, BUT IN THIS CASE, THE WORST IS YET TO COME ON THAT PROJECT.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

THIS IS OUR MICROSURFACING PROJECT.

UH, WE SHOULD BE COMPLETED NEXT WEEK.

WE HAVE SEEN SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE MICRO.

SO, UH, BUT WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS GET WITH THE INSPECTION GROUP AND WE'LL DO A PUNCH LIST WITH THE CONTRACTOR, ASK HIM TO CLEAN UP, STRAIGHTEN UP THINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ANY PATCHES OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO BE DONE AT A THEY'RE TAKEN CARE OF.

SO THEY SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP NEXT WEEK.

AND THAT'S, AGAIN, WEATHER PERMITTING, THE STRAIN HAS BEEN OR SOMETHING ELSE, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, LEON.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CUSTOMERS? UH, FIRST OF ALL, LEON, I JUST WANT TO, UM, GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE PARK DOWNTOWN.

I NOTICED THEY WERE DIGGING.

DID THEY GET THEIR A SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN, OR WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT WATER LINE THEY WERE DIGGING FOR? YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

THAT'S THE BEST I HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY TOLD ME THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT.

OKAY.

AND THEN FOR THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, UH, I THINK WHAT THE BIGGEST CONCERN WHERE THE RESIDENTS IS, IS SPEED.

I THINK IF WE COULD, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW A SPEED AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, PROBABLY THE WAY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S GOING TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT BECAUSE THE SPEED IS REALLY WHAT WORRIES THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THEY COME BARRELING DOWN THE ROADWAYS AND IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF SCARY PULLING OUT OF YOUR HOME.

UH, NOT I'M TELLING YOU FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

I, YOU KNOW, I, I SEE WHAT MY FAMILY MEMBERS ARE GOING THROUGH, PULLING OUT WHEN THE CONSTRUCTIONAL PRONOUNCED STAGECOACH WAS GOING ON.

IT'S PRETTY TOUGH, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S IT.

AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE MICROSURFACING.

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UH, HAVE WE LOOKED, HOW FAR DOWN ARE WE GOING WITH A MICRO SURFACING? ARE WE GOING DOWN TO SECOND STREET AND ALL THE OLD NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, FURTHER THAT WAY? NO, SIR.

THAT'S NOT ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THIS YEAR.

AND I DID LOOK INTO THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

IT'S NOT ON THOSE SCHEDULES EITHER.

WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS GET THE ROADS WITH THE MOST TRAFFIC ON THEM, AND THAT ARE IN DECENT SHAPE THAT WE CAN USE MICROSURFACING ON.

UH, IF IT'S TOO FAR GONE, OBVIOUSLY MICROSURFACING IS NOT THE RIGHT TREATMENT THAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR THAT, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE SECOND STREET OR THIRD STREET, THIRD STREET BY THE WAY, WILL BE TORN UP.

BUT FORTUNATE, IT WILL BE TORN UP NEAR SLOPE NEAR SCOTT STREET SAYING WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THAT AS BEST AS WE CAN AS WIDE AS WE CAN.

THEY'RE VERY, VERY NARROW STREETS ARE ABOUT 1920 FEET WIDE.

SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL WE'RE GOING TO FIT IN THERE, BUT WE DO PLAN AS WE GO THROUGH WITH OUR PROJECT ON THE ELLIOTT BRANCH IS TO, AS WE REPLACE THE WATER LINES OF WESTWORLD ALLIANCE, PUT INTO THE NEW WATER LINES.

AND, UH, THE RECLAIM LINES IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RE BE PAVED THOSE STREETS AND REBUILD THEM.

YEAH.

AND THEN FINALLY, UH, JUST ON THE SPRING, Y'ALL DISCOVERED, UH, I GREW UP IN THE AREA, SO I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THE SPRINGS ALLOWS SPRINGS.

DON'T POP UP UNTIL YOU'VE GOT A VERY HEAVY RAIN EVENT THAT LASTS QUITE A FEW MONTHS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE IN THAT KIND OF YEAR WHERE WE WERE HAVING RAIN AFTER RAIN, YOU KNOW, WEEK AFTER WEEK.

AND THAT SPRING WILL PROBABLY DISAPPEAR ONCE THE RAINS DO SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY Y'ALL, DIDN'T ENCOUNTER IT BEFORE AND WHY YOU'RE ENCOUNTERED IT NOW IS JUST, IT'S JUST THE WAY THE REGION IS BUILT UP HERE.

YES, SIR.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY DID DISCOVER WATER ABOUT 10 FEET DOWN.

AND, BUT THEN THIS IS ABOUT FIVE FEET DOWN, SO IT'S PRETTY HIGH.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, UH, JAMES ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER CUSTOMER IS, I JUST WANTED TO EXPAND ON THE, ON THE SQUARE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED.

I THINK PROBABLY THE ACTIVITY THAT YOU SAW WAS PUBLIC MOVING THE METER BECAUSE THE EXISTING METER WAS GOING TO BE UNDERNEATH WHERE HARDSCAPES WOULD BE.

SO THEY HAD TO RELOCATE THE METER.

THAT WAS THE BIG PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE, ON THE SQUARE PARK.

THANK YOU, JAMES.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, HELLO.

UM, SO I HAD MY ROTARY SURFACE AND, UM, I HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE COMPANY THAT WE HIRED AND I'VE ALSO RECEIVED EMAILS REGARDING THE QUALITY OF WORK.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING UP, MAKING SURE THAT THE ROADS WERE OKAY.

UM, I THINK THERE WAS SOME COURAGE OR SOMETHING THAT WAS, UM, THAT WAS COVERED.

SO, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE FOR NEXT TIME, IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE JUST AN ISOLATED INCIDENT, BUT IT'S KIND OF DISCONCERTING WHEN THERE'S SEVERAL INCIDENTS, WE WILL BE DOING A PUNCH LIST WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND WE'VE ALREADY BROUGHT IT UP WITH CONTRACTOR.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS IT VIKING? YES.

CASPER TOBY'S UH, JUST, UH, WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ECHO AGAIN WITH COUNSEL REASONS SAID ABOUT THE SECOND AND THIRD STREETS.

UM, THAT PART OF KYLE, UM, IS, UH, IS ONE THAT SHOWS CONCERNS FOR, FOR ALL OF US, BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE HAVE HAD THOSE STREETS LOOKING LIKE THAT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

UM, ARE WE, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO LOOK TO GETTING, GETTING TO THOSE ROADS, ARE WE LOOKING AT A TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION FOR ALL OF THAT AREA? OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE MICROSOFTING OR LIKE, KIND OF LIKE WHAT, WHAT I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT MARTINEZ LOOP ABOUT DOING THE WHOLE, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UM, PAVEMENT ON IT, ESPECIALLY IN BACK IN THAT AREA, IT WILL, ANY OF THOSE BE, HOW WOULD IT AWARDED THIS, UM, PUT ON THE BURNER FOR NEXT, FOR NEXT, FOR THE NEXT GO ROUND FOR THIS NEXT PHASE, TOO, ESPECIALLY BACK IN THERE.

CAUSE WE WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING SOME, UM, SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE ROADS ARE JUST GETTING REALLY, REALLY BAD OUT THERE.

AND I KNOW WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE HEAVY TRAFFIC ONES, BUT IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE TO WHERE WE CAN START LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE AREAS BACK IN THE BACK OF, OF, UM, OF, OF THE, OF THE CITY BACK IN THAT AREA? WE'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE WE DO HAVE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

I BELIEVE WE'RE ON OUR, THIS IS OUR THIRD YEAR OF OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN.

WE HAVEN'T UPDATED IT YET.

UH, SO NEXT YEAR WE DO HAVE A YEAR FOUR ALREADY PLANNED, BUT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY PUT THOSE ROADS UNDER ANY KIND OF MICRO SERVICING, WE PHYSICALLY GO CHECK EACH ROAD AND SEE, IS IT STILL A CANDIDATE FOR MICRO SERVICING? MICROSURFACING IS GOOD FOR ROADS IS IN FAIRLY GOOD SHAPE.

IF YOU TRY TO DO IT ON THE ROAD, THAT'S NOT A GOOD SHAPE.

THEN IT'S JUST REALLY A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY TO DO THAT.

YOU NEED TO GO TO RECONSTRUCTION.

SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T EVEN NEED TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION TIME.

SOMETIMES THERE'S A SEXIST SPRING BRANCH, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, RATHER THAN DOING A MICRO, UH, WHAT I DID IS I WENT DOWN ABOUT FOUR INCHES WITH THE HOTMIX AND UH, THAT ROADS IS STILL PRETTY GOOD SHAPE CAUSE THAT'S ALL IT NEEDED.

BUT SO EACH ROAD DID YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH ROAD AND SEE THIS ONE ROAD IS, UM, WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC DO WE HAVE ON IT? WHAT'S CONDITION.

IS IT, UH, PRETTY BAD SHAPE THEN? YEAH.

RECONSTRUCTION IS INVOLVED IN IT.

WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO RECONSTRUCTION, DO WE JUST RECONSTRUCT IT AS IT IS? OR DO WE START LOOKING

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AT CURBS AND GUTTERS AND ALL THAT? SO AT THAT POINT AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, THE COSTS START GOING UP.

SO WE TRY TO DO THE MINIMUM COST FOR GOOD STREETS, WHICH IS USUALLY SILK COATS, MICROS SLURRIES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S ABOUT THREE, $4 A SQUARE YARD.

SO THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON, ON MAINTENANCE THAT'S MAINTENANCE.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE GETTING THOSE ROADS WHERE THEY'RE IN WORST CONDITION, UH, AS YOU REMEMBER, PUBLIC WORKS, WORKED ON GONZALEZ STREET.

I BELIEVE THAT'S A STREET AND THAT WAS, WAS TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION AND THEY JUST REBUILT IT BACK TO TWO LINES IS WHAT THEY DID, BUT THAT TOOK TIME AND EFFORT TO DO THAT.

SO EACH ROAD IS DIFFERENT.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE, IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN DO A MICRO THEN CERTAINLY WE'LL DO THAT.

THE GOOD THING ABOUT MICROSOFT, YOU CAN DO IT IN LAYERS THAT WHERE YOU CAN BUILD IT UP, UH, WITH A SEAL COAT.

THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF THE IS JUST TO SEAL IT.

SO AGAIN, EACH ROAD IS DIFFERENT.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE A DETERMINATION WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE ROADS FOR CERTAIN AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE FUTURE ON THOSE.

THAT'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THOSE.

OH, THANK YOU.

YEAH, I GET THE POINT ABOUT THE HEAVILY USED ROADS ON THAT END, BUT THOSE ARE STILL RESIDENTS THAT STILL NEED, UH, REPAIRS ON THEIR ROADS.

AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE FORGOTTEN AS WE MAKE PLANS IN THE FUTURE ON ROAD REPAIRS THAT WE LOOK INTO ALL THE AREAS, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THOSE SMALLER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE CAN AT LEAST, UH, GET TO GET TO THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

JUST, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, LEON, I THINK, UH, THE, UH, FRUSTRATION WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ARE IN THAT AREA.

AND I THINK IT'S NOT JUST THE COUNSELOR.

IT'S BEEN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY TO FORGET THOSE SMALL AREAS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT OFF THE BEATEN PATH IN THOSE OLD NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.

IT'S JUST, UH, SOMETIMES THOSE LEAST TRAVELED ROADWAYS ARE THE ONES WE FORGET BECAUSE WE FORGET THEY'RE THERE, YOU KNOW? AND, UM, I'D SAY IT, I, SOMETIMES I FORGET THEY'RE THERE AS WELL.

I GREW UP IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S LIKE IT'S ALLEN STREET.

YEAH, JUST, THEY'RE JUST VERY, VERY SELDOM LEAVE TRAVEL EXCEPT BY THE RESIDENTS THERE, BUT THEY ARE TAXPAYERS AND WE GOT TO REMEMBER THEM.

SO WE DEFINITELY I'D LOVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT.

THANK YOU.

WELL, SPEAKING OF THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES I'VE HAD WITH, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS PLAN, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THE WAY THEY'RE GOING ABOUT ADDRESSING ROAD PROJECTS IS THAT I NEVER REALLY KNOW WHAT'S NEXT.

WHAT, WHEN THEY PLAN TO GET THERE, UM, THIS MIGHT BE MORE FOR SCOTCH, PROBABLY MORE FOR HARPER, HONESTLY, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT REALLY KIND OF LAYS OUT? THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE, HOW WE'RE UTILIZING OUR, YOU KNOW, UH, STREETS, CONSTRUCTION, DIVISION, STREETS, MAINTENANCE, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW WHAT STREETS ARE UP NEXT AND WHICH STREETS ARE TWO YEARS OUT, THREE YEARS OUT.

UH, THAT WAY, IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR ROAD THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO REPRIORITIZE, WE'LL HAVE THAT CHANCE TO SORT OF WEIGH IN AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING SORT OF BEHIND THE, BEHIND THE VEIL A LITTLE BIT.

IS THERE A PLAN LIKE THAT IN PLACE THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE NEXT 10 ROADS, THE STREETS, CONSTRUCTION AND STREETS MAINTENANCE CREWS ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON IS OUR HAIR AISLE.

I DON'T SEE HIM.

UM, I'M ONLINE.

GO FOR IT.

MAYOR COUNCIL HARPER WILDER.

YES, SIR.

WE DO.

UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD ROADS ALREADY SCHEDULED AND THEN, UH, THEY WERE PUT ON THE BOND.

AND SO WE HAVE A LIST NOW OF ROADS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUTSIDE THE BOND.

UM, AND I CAN GET THAT LESS TO YOU MAYOR.

YEAH.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU GET THAT TO COUNCIL THAT WE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT LIST ALSO INCLUDES THE SECONDARY KIPP'S HILL ROAD.

YEAH.

ALL OF IT.

IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE MICROSOFT JUST TO EVERYTHING RELATED TO ROADS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TOUCHING THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE IT IN ONE PLACE.

SO YES, SIR.

WE'LL GET IT TO THE CUSTOMER ELLISON.

I SEE YOUR HAND.

SORRY.

I CAN, OH NO, YOU ACTUALLY KIND OF MADE THE POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE ALREADY, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF ELABORATE OR PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT AND SAY, UH, I, I HEAR COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE S AND COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO.

UM, I THINK THEIR POINTS ARE ROTATING, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT, I THINK THAT FALLS ON THE COUNCIL, UH, THAT WE'VE GOT TO PRIORITIZE TO THEM, UH, WHETHER IT'S IN OUR CIP PLAN OR, UH, PROJECTS WITH, UH, AS THE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH, UM, WHAT PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING THAT WE WANT, THOSE ROADS PRIORITIZE.

AND SO I THAT'S REALLY, UM, IT FALLS ON US THAT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

AND, AND, UH, AND IF WE, IF WE WANT THOSE ROADS AS A PART OF THAT, BECAUSE AS MR. BARBER POINTED OUT, MICROSERVICES ARE NOT GOING TO HELP ON A LOT OF THOSE ROADS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA.

AS HE POINTED OUT, WE REALLY NEED TO PRIORITIZE THE RECONSTRUCTION OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH ROADS.

AND HOWEVER, THAT MAY BE FUNDING IT THROUGH OUR CIP PLAN OR FUNDING IT THROUGH OUR PUBLIC WORK STREET DIVISION, ANYONE ELSE CUTS WORKFORCE FLOORS KILL.

I'LL BE QUICK.

UM, BUT IT'S AMAZING WHEN I HEAR DEX TALK BECAUSE HE LITERALLY TAKES THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH.

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AND, UM, CAUSE I WAS SITTING HERE THINKING LIKE, OKAY, HOW DO WE GET THAT DONE? AND THEN I THOUGHT, WAIT, THAT'S US.

LIKE WE, WE GIVE DIRECTION TO SCOTT WHO GIVES DIRECTION TO STAFF.

SO, UM, MR. RIZZO AND, AND DUBIOUS, NEXT TIME WE TALK ABOUT BUDGETS.

SO WE TALK ABOUT THE ROADS WE WANT TO WORK ON.

IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT.

SO I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT ON, BUT, AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I JUST DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.

SO WHEN DECK SAYS THAT, I SAID, WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.

LIKE WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE PRIORITIZE OUR ROADS ON OUR OWN AND EVERYBODY ADVOCATES FOR THEIR OWN, BUT THERE ARE ROADS THAT DEFINITELY NEED HELP THAN OTHERS.

ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, LEON.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT STEPS.

CONSENT

[V.  Consent Agenda]

AGENDA.

I NEED TO PULL ITEM 14.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO PULL ANY OTHER ITEMS, MOTIONS, MAYOR I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 13.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO SECOND AND BACK COUNSELOR FLORES.

KAYLA, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I HAVE A QUESTION ON NUMBER NINE.

WHAT THAT WAS, WAS THAT THE SIX ZERO VOTE OR SIX ONE OR 6 0 6 0 6 0.

OH, YOU WERE ABSENT.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS JUST AN ORDINANCE, UH, FOR THE MASTER PLAN TO GET IT, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY HAS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS PAGE, WE WERE AMENDING THE CHAPTER ORDINANCE, JUST SO I HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF MARIN COUNCIL PAGE SIGNED FOR THE RECORD.

THAT THAT ORDINANCE JUST MAKES THE TERMS THAT ARE USING THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN MATCH UP WITH THE TERMS USED IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.

THAT'S ALL IT DOES.

IT'S SOME PLACES YOU STREET PLAN AND OTHER PLACES USE A DIFFERENT TERMINOLOGY.

SO WE JUST MADE IT ALL TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, HAVE MY EMOTION.

UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

FIVE TO 13.

WE NEED A SECOND.

OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK I READ THAT.

I READ THROUGH THAT WITH SECOND BY COUNSELOR.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO MOVE THE CITY.

MANAGER'S REPORT OUT BEFORE WE GO INTO, UH, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION.

UM, SCOTT, GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

WAS 14 POOLED? YES.

YEAH, IT WAS.

I WAS GOING TO BRING IT DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT LATER WITH THE H AND P ITEMS, BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO HAVE CM REPORT.

MOVE UP A LITTLE SAMANTHA'S I THINK GOT SOME WHOLESOME CELL PHONE.

SORRY.

I'VE GOT TO GIVE THEM A SECOND AFTER SCOTT FOR A LOOP THERE.

I KNOW I DID.

SORRY.

UM, LET'S TRY AGAIN.

IT'S COMING THERE IT IS.

OH BOY.

I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT ON THIS, THIS VIEWER HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

MAYOR COUNCIL, SCOTT SELLERS FOR THE RECORD.

UH, I'M GOING TO JUMP IT TO THIS ONE LAST CAUSE I I'M GOING TO HIT A COUPLE OTHER QUICKIE ITEMS FIRST AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL HIT THAT LIBERTY ITEM AT THE END.

SO WE HAVE THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR BUDGET CALENDAR.

UH, YOU'LL SEE, COMING UP OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION NUMBERS THREE IS SATURDAY, JULY 31ST, SAME TIME, SAME PLACE.

AND UH, YOU'LL SEE THE OTHER ITEMS THERE, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY EVENINGS.

SO DON'T, DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THOSE AS WELL.

OUR DINING IN MOVIE EVENT IS TAKING PLACE FRIDAY, JULY 23RD AT THE POOL.

SO THAT'S A DIVE DIVE IN FROM SEVEN 30 TO 10:00 PM.

PREREGISTRATION REQUIRED MORE INFORMATION@CITYOFKYLE.COM SLASH RECREATION.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR 2021 STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS, UH, HOSTED BY THE CAL CHAMBER AT TEXAS OLD TOWN.

THAT IS OUR MAYOR, TRAVIS MITCHELL, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE PUBLIC.

AND WE HOPE TO SEE AS MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE.

AND FINALLY, I'LL GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING, A RECAP OF OUR LAVERDE GROUNDBREAKING EVENT, UH, WHICH WAS VERY WELL THERE'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS THAT WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS, INCLUDING OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, HR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO FOR EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THIS EVENT, IT WAS DONE IT VERY WELL.

AND WE HAVE AN PARKS, SORRY, MS. PARKS.

UH, EVERYONE DID A GREAT JOB.

UH, WE HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO THAT WE'D LIKE TO,

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TO SHARE OF DENIED.

SO WITH THAT ROLL, THAT FOOTAGE RULE, THAT BEAUTIFUL BEAN FOOTAGE UH, GROUNDBREAKINGS ARE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU FINALLY GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU GET TO SHOW THE PUBLIC, WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME, THE IDEA FOR UPTOWN, WHICH IS NOW THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT, UH, IT GOES BACK MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT YOU KNOW, BACK INTO THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, HONESTLY, IT WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST PROJECTS, UH, THAT WAS CONCEIVED OF LAVERDE IS GOING TO BE A CROWN JEWEL FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.

IT IS A GREAT PROJECT THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE WORKED ON.

UH, IT IS A 1.6 ACRE PARK.

IT HAS AN EVENT LAWN THAT HOLDS UP TO 2200 PEOPLE, UH, MARKET SPACES, INTERACTIVE WATER FEATURES AND A WORLD-CLASS PLAYGROUND FOR THE KIDS.

THIS NEW PART THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING IS SOMETHING THAT CHILDREN OF ALL ABILITIES WILL BE ABLE TO PLAY TOGETHER.

NO PRICE OF ADMISSION, NO ADDITION TO THE RESIDENTS' PROPERTY TAXES OUTSIDE OF THE ZONE.

THE PARK IS UNIQUELY DESIGNED FOR EVERYONE.

IT IS TRULY MULTI-GENERATIONAL AS YOU CAN SEE WITH MY SHIRTS, UH, WELCOME TO THE FIRST PHASE OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICTS.

UH, THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT IS WHAT YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD.

A LOT OF IT IS THAT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, URBAN MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT INCLUDES RETAIL RESTAURANTS, OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL, AND PARKS, OVER 138 ACRES.

UH, OVER THAT ENTIRE AREA.

THE VISION ULTIMATELY INCLUDES 2,500 RESIDENCES, 250,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE AND 150,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.

WE WANT THIS TO BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE AND WORK AND PLAY IN KYLE AND NOT HAVE TO COMMUTE TO OTHER PARTS OF THE, OF THE REGION.

THERE WAS A SPANISH POET NAMED PEDRO CALDERON DELLA BOSCO, WHO ONCE WROTE GREEN IS THE PRIME COLOR OF THE WORLD AND THAT WHICH HITS LOVELINESS ARISES.

AND THAT IS PART OF THE INSPIRATION WITH THIS PARK.

SO I ASKED YOU ALL TO JOIN US IN A FEW MONTHS, UH, COMING THIS SPRING TO OUR GREAT NEW PARK, MY BAD DAY.

WELL DONE.

THANK YOU, SAMANTHA COMMS DEPARTMENT AS A THAT'S A GREAT VIDEO.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

IS THAT IT FOR THE CITY MANAGERS REPORT? THAT'S IT.

AWESOME.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

THAT WAS A FUN EVENT FOR SURE.

UM, THAT'S SO GOOD.

UH, OKAY.

UH, D DO YOU WANT TO PAGE, WE NEED TO WAIT ON ITEM 14 AND BRING IT UP WITH H AND P SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THEM TOGETHER.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE EASIER.

OR DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO DISCUSS 14 AND WHAT THE REQUEST IS? I CAN ADVISE WHAT 14 IS ABOUT.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL

[14.  Approve a Temporary Construction License Agreement - Park Property. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]

JUST BRING IT UP THEN.

AGENDA ITEM OR 14 APPROVE A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION LICENSE AGREEMENT PARK PROPERTY.

THIS AGREEMENT PROVIDES FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO LOCATE A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION TRAILER ON ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT'S OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER MOUNTAIN PLUM.

UM, THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE PARK SO THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, DO THE, THE PARK CONSTRUCTION.

THEY, THEY NEED THE CONTRACTOR IN THE CITY TO ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT.

UH, PARTICULARLY THE CONTRACTOR AGREES TO INDEMNIFY AND TO CARRY INSURANCE TO COVER ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT ARISE DUE TO THE CONTRACTOR'S USE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE CITY HAS ASKED TO BE A PARTY SINCE YOU'RE CONTRACTING WITH THAT CONTRACTOR TO DO THE PROJECT AND HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THE CONTRACTOR AS WELL.

UH, SO THERE WAS NO, IT'S NOT QUITE READY IS THAT IS WHAT I'M HEARING TOO.

YOU NEED TO FINALIZE THOSE.

WE DO.

WE, WE DO NEED TO EMOTION FOR THE MARITAL, AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE FINAL AGREEMENT APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

OKAY.

AND TH THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE OF THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.

YES.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PAGE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO FINALIZE THE FINAL FORM OF AGREEMENT APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

WHAT ELSE? I CAN MOVE ON MAYOR SECOND BY CUSTOMER FLOORS KILLS OR ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

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ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

UH,

[15.  Approve a Resolution authorizing the City Manager and City Engineer to negotiate an agreement with K FRIESE & ASSOCIATES, Austin, Texas, a civil engineering consulting firm, to provide project management services for the design and construction of specific road projects throughout the City to be funded under the 2022 Road Bond Program and to bring back an agreement with all terms and conditions including contract amount for City Council's approval at a future Council meeting.  ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]

NEXT UP JEN ITEM, NUMBER 15, APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ENGINEER TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH KAY FRIESEN ASSOCIATES, AUSTIN, TEXAS CIVIL ENGINEERING CONSULTING FIRM TO PROVIDE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF SPECIFIC ROAD PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO BE FUNDED UNDER THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM.

AND TO BRING BACK IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, ET CETERA, MR. BARBA, GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER, MARIN COUNCIL ON MAY THE 26TH.

WE PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS OR AN RFQ AS WE CALL IT, UH, ASKING THE VARIOUS ENGINEERING FIRMS TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL IN CASE THEY WERE INTERESTED IN OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UH, UH, THAT WE HAVE A NEED FOR, UH, ON JUNE THE 23RD, WE GOT THREE SUBMITTALS FROM, UH, THE FIRMS. AND, UH, SO WE HAD A PANEL REVIEW THE PROPOSALS.

WE ALSO HAD A PANEL DO THE INTERVIEWS AND BASED ON THEIR, THE SUBMITTALS AND THE INTERVIEWS, THE PANEL HAS RECOMMENDING K FRIESE ASSOCIATES TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

THEY WILL BE HANDLING ALL OF OUR FUTURE BOND PROJECTS, ROAD PROJECTS, AND COORDINATING WITH ALL THE VARIOUS ENGINEERING FIRMS. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, BUT THANK YOU, LEON.

A QUESTION I HAVE IS THE, THE, UH, THE, THE CAPTION SAYS 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM, BUT REALLY WE'RE, WE'VE GOT THE SPECIFIC ROADS THAT ARE IN THAT SCOPE, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO WHETHER WE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO START ENGINEERING, IT'S IN THE BUDGET, OR AT LEAST IT'S PROPOSED THAT WE'LL START ENGINEERING ON THESE ROADS PRIOR TO THAT.

SO WHETHER IT GOES TO A BOND OR WHETHER THE FUTURE, WHATEVER THE FUTURE HOLDS IS NOT DEPENDENT ON THE LANGUAGE OF THIS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE ROAD BOND BECAUSE WE'RE APPROVING THIS, RIGHT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING SO WE CAN GET SOME BETTER ESTIMATES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL QUESTION.

I HAD ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CUSTOMER TOBY'S.

OKAY.

SO PRETTY MUCH WHAT THIS A GROUP WOULD BE DOING IS LOOKING AT THE ROADS THAT WE HAD SPECIFIED THAT ARE NEEDING THE ATTENTION.

WOULD THEY BE KIND OF LOOKING AT AND DOING THE SPECS AND THE DESIGN AND THE ENGINEERING WORK ITSELF TO KIND OF GET BACK A POSSIBLE PRICING ASSESSMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE OVERSEEING THE ENGINEERS THAT ARE SELECTED TO DO THESE PROJECTS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE SPECIFICATIONS, MAKING SURE THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE, WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE.

UH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO CONTRACTS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING, UH, EVERYTHING THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THE CONTRACT, PUTTING A CONTRACT TOGETHER AND GETTING THE, OF GETTING YOUR PROJECT BUILT.

SO THEY'LL ALSO BE COORDINATING AMONGST ALL THOSE FIRMS. UH, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT SHE HAS SOMETIMES BEEN TRYING TO MANAGE DIFFERENT FIRMS IS THEY WANT TO USE DIFFERENT THINGS THAN WHAT WE DIDN'T, UH, OTHER FIRMS DO.

SO WE EXPECT THIS FIRM TO KIND OF KEEP AN OVERALL, UH, UMBRELLA, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WILL, OVER THESE FIRMS THAT WE MAKE SURE WE GET THE SAME TYPE OF PROJECT THROUGHOUT THESE, ALL THESE 13 OR 14 PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD.

SO AGAIN, THEIR JOB IS TO JUST TO BE THE OVERSEER, IF YOU WILL, OF THE, UH, OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, WILL THEY BE WORKING WITH ANY OTHER, UH, THIRD-PARTY COMPANIES ON THE DESIGN WORK? THEY MAY MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHICH FIRMS THAT WE WANT TO USE.

WE MAY USE THEM FOR THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, ANYONE WHO WAS ON THE PANEL WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT, UH, THE SELECTION? YOU KNOW, IT WAS, I WASN'T A PART OF THAT, SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY THOUGHTS.

WE'RE ALL GOOD.

COUNCILOR ELLISON.

YEAH.

I'LL JUST SAY IT WAS, IT WAS A CHALLENGING, UH, DECISION TO MAKE, UH, ALL THREE FIRMS HAD VARIOUS PARTS THAT THEY WERE STRONG IN.

AND THE GROUP OF, UH, UH, MY PRO-TEAM COACH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO AND MYSELF, UH, SCOTT, LEON, UH, IT WAS A CHALLENGE TO COME DOWN TO THE DECISION WE MADE FOR THIS RECOMMENDATION.

UH, BUT A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO IT BY ALL OF THOSE PARTIES MENTIONED.

AND, UH, WE ULTIMATELY AGREED ON THIS ONE TO BRING TO THE COUNCIL FOR RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MOTIONS, OR I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 15.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO.

SECOND ABOUT MAYOR PRO TEM COACH APPROVED AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT

[16.  Discussion and possible action to incorporate bond-related capital improvements into the scope of the City-wide Trail System Task Force. ~ Rick Koch, Mayor Pro Tem]

STEP, UH, JANETTA NUMBER 16, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO INCORPORATE BOND RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE SCOPE OF THE CITYWIDE TRAIL SYSTEM TASKFORCE, MAYOR PRO TEM COACH, UH, THE TRAIL SYSTEM TASK FORCE CONSISTING OF MYSELF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY S WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON OUR TRAIL SYSTEM PLANS.

IT'S BEEN COMING TOGETHER REALLY WELL.

WE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE A FEW WEEKS BACK.

UH, WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS, UH, WORKING RIGHT NOW AND IT'S KIND OF TIME TO

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START TAKING SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS.

SO WE WANTED TO BRING THIS BEFORE YOU, UH, TO JUST START TALKING ABOUT INCORPORATING, UH, BOND, UH, RELATED, UH, ITEMS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

SCOTT, YOU WANT TO JUMP IN ON THIS MAYOR, COUNCIL'S SCOTT SILVER FOR THE RECORD.

SO THE CITIZENRY APPROVED A $2 MILLION, UH, TRAIL DEDICATION.

AND THEN THE LAST NOVEMBER ELECTION GENERAL ELECTION, WE ARE HOPING TO LEVERAGE THOSE FUNDS AND ALSO RECEIVE MULTIPLE SOURCES OF OUTSIDE FUNDING AS WELL.

UH, BUT THE PROCESS FOR MOVING FORWARD AND ACTUALLY DESIGNING SOME OF THESE TRAIL SEGMENTS IS NOW PARTIALLY BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, UH, FUNDING AMOUNT FOR THE SPRING BRANCH SECTION OF OUR TRAIL.

SO THE QUESTION NOW FOR THE TRAIL TASKFORCE IS TO REALLY DIVE IN, LOOK AT THE MATERIAL, LOOK AT THE WIDTH, LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER TRAIL AMENITIES LIKE, UH, BENCHES DOG WASTE STATIONS, WHERE THE PARKING AREAS ARE GOING TO GO.

WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA BASED ON THE OPEN HOUSE AND BASED ON A LOT OF OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT THE TASK FORCE HAD BEEN HAVING.

UH, BUT WE ARE REALLY TO THAT POINT WHERE DESIGN IS, IS THE NEXT STEP AND UTILIZING SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS.

SO THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS BASICALLY, DO WE WANT TO HAVE THIS TASK FORCE PROCEED AND SAY, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS THE KICKSTARTING OF THE BOND RELATED CURRENT PROJECT.

SO, UM, ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT COUNCILOR FORESCOUT I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

WELL, THE TASK FORCE GIVE INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL TO VOTE ON.

OKAY.

SO NOTHING'S GOING TO GO PAST US WITHOUT RIGHT.

TASK FORCE IS A RECOMMENDING BODY.

AND, UH, THE REALLY, THE NEXT STEP ALSO IS TO FINALIZE AND APPROVE THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN IT'S BEING DEVELOPED AS WE SPEAK.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT TASKFORCE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND SO JUST TO ADD TO THAT, CAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

IT'LL BE ON THE NEXT ITEM WITH, UM, UH, COUNCILLOR ELLISON AS WELL.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE REALLY KIND OF EXPANDED THE IDEA OF HOW OF CREATING TASK FORCE TO GET A LOT OF THINGS DONE.

UM, IT HAS SORT OF REVOLUTIONIZED THE PRODUCTIVITY OF THIS COUNCIL SINCE WE'VE STARTED DOING THAT.

AND THE REASON THAT IT'S WORKED AS WELL AS IT HAS IS BECAUSE, UH, UP UNTIL NOW, THE TASK FORCES HAVE ALWAYS DONE A GOOD JOB OF, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THEIR PROJECT, THAT THEY ARE THE AMBASSADORS OF COUNCIL, UH, AND THEIR JOB IS TO ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, GO OUT FROM COUNCIL TO DO THE WILL OF COUNCIL AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO US.

IT'S JUST, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN DO ALL THE WORK HERE.

UH, AND SO IT'LL, IT ALLOWS FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL INTERESTS AND COUNCIL WILL, IS REPRESENTED AS THESE THINGS MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WE'RE NOT.

AND HONESTLY, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY HELPED STAFF TOO BECAUSE, UH, STAFF DOESN'T, IF STAFF ISN'T SURE WHICH WAY COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, THEY MAY GO WAY FAR DOWN A PATH AND THEN FIND OUT THAT THAT REALLY WASN'T WHAT THIS BODY WANTED ANYWAY.

SO IT KIND OF WORKS OUT PRETTY WELL.

SO IT JUST PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SAID, OKAY.

UM, WELL SAID, MER, UH, I'LL JUST ADD AS WELL THAT, UH, 100% AGREE WITH THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENS ON THESE TASK FORCE.

AND CERTAINLY, UH, THE COUNCIL COULD REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TASK FORCE THAT IS ALWAYS AT THE DISPOSAL OF COUNCIL, BUT IDEALLY WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT AS THE MAYOR PUT IS MORE IN SCOPE OF THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL AND DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD PUBLICLY AND TRY AND TAKE, GET INTO MINUTIA THAT HELPS STAFF AS WELL, UH, AND NOT GO DOWN A PATH THAT REALLY THE COUNCIL WASN'T CONTINUING TO GO.

UM, THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, UH, APPRECIATE FOR, UH, COUNCILMAN FLORES, KALE BRINGING THIS UP.

IT MIGHT BE HIGH TIME FOR US TO BRING A PRESENTATION FORWARD FROM THIS TASK FORCE TO KIND OF GIVE THE COUNCIL AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHERE WE'RE AT AND KIND OF KEEP THE COUNCIL ABREAST OF WHERE WE ARE ON THIS, BECAUSE A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN GOING INTO THIS NEXT, SINCE JANUARY WE'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS.

SO, UM, SO YEAH, WHAT POINT WE'LL TAKING COUNCILMEN EMPLOYERS.

YEAH.

UM, OTHER COMMENTS OR MOTIONS CUSTOMERS.

YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO THE PRESENTATION, UH, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR TRAIL SYSTEM OR CONNECTIVITY.

UH, I THINK THIS IS AN AMAZING, UH, UH, ASSET TO OUR CITY AND IS JUST GOING TO GET BETTER.

SO THE MORE IMPROVEMENTS WE'LL MAKE ON IT AND WE GET A RIDE IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT TRAIL.

SO DEFINITELY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

WOULD THAT BEING SAID, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO SECOND AND BY COUNCIL FLORES, KAYLA, WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM

[17.  Council consideration of forming a task force for bond-related capital improvements at Gregg-Clarke Park. ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]

NUMBER 17.

COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF FORMING A TASK FORCE, UH, FOR BOND RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AT GREG CLARK PARK COMES FROM NELSON.

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OKAY.

ARE YOU MARRIED? SO, UM, MY AGENDA ITEM PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT MORE CLOSE TO THAT AFFORDED TO THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM CAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, WELL, ONE PART OF, OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, THE SECOND IS, UM, TO ACTUALLY START MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

SO JUST LIKE THE TRAIL SYSTEM WAS A PART OF POT B THAT $10 MILLION THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED LAST NOVEMBER.

UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO GREG CART PARK, INCLUDING A SKATE PARK WAS A PART OF THAT AS WELL.

AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN KIND OF, UH, ON THE FENCE WITH THE COUNTY AND, AND MATCHING DOLLARS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

BUT FOR ME PERSONALLY, THIS IS COUNCILMEMBER MEMBER.

ALISON SPEAKING, I'M TIRED OF WAITING ON THAT.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO, I THINK WE CAN DO A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH THE ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS, UH, EARMARKED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARK, THROUGH THAT BOND.

AND I'D LIKE US TO GET ROLLING ON THAT.

UM, SKATE PARK IS SOMETHING THAT IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTING TO ME.

I'VE ALREADY GONE TO THE BUDA SKATE PARK AND SOME OTHER SKATE PARKS, UH, IN THE AREA, UH, SAN MARCOS AS WELL.

YEAH.

PROBABLY KINDA FELT WEIRD TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT I WAS APPROACHING THEM, BUT I WANTED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE, WE HAD THIS PARK, UH, APPROVED BY OUR VOTERS AND THIS WAS SOMETHING WE WERE LOOKING TO, UH, TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT.

AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEIR FEEDBACK.

AND I WAS PASSING OUT MY CARDS.

I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF EMAILS ALREADY LINED UP IN A, IN A FOLDER, READY TO GO OF FEEDBACK THAT THEY HAVE, UH, ON THINGS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE CHANGED ABOUT THE BUDA OR SAN MARCUS PARK OR WHAT THEY WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS LIKE US TO CONSIDER, UH, WHEN BUILDING A SKATE PARK.

SO, UH, THIS IS MORE OR LESS JUST KIND OF GET OFF THE FENCE ABOUT WAITING WITH THE COUNTY AND, AND MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT AND GETTING, UH, DESIGNS AND INCORPORATING INPUT, UH, TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.

UM, CUSTOMERS THOUGH.

YEAH.

I JUST WANT THAT ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, I KNOW IT WAS ALMOST ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THAT, UH, MY WIFE AND I WERE DOWN IN CORPUS CHRISTI AND WE SAW THE SKATE PARK THERE AND ACTUALLY, UH, START REACHED OUT TO STAFF YOU AND BROUGHT SOME NUMBERS ON WHAT IT WOULD COST A PER SQUARE FOOT TO BUILD SUCH A PARK.

AND, UH, SO I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.

AND, UH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO A SKATEBOARD PIECE, WE DO HAVE THE ASK PAVILION, BUT TO ADD TO THAT AND GIVE THEM ANOTHER OPTION IS GOING TO BE AMAZING.

UH, I KNOW A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN KYLE GET RUN OUT OF A LOT OF PLACES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ESCAPE THEIR PROPERTY.

OWNERS ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE LIABILITY, BUT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK CHILDREN OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD BENEFIT FROM BEING ABLE TO GO OUTDOORS AND TO EXERCISE AND NOT JUST STAY INSIDE AND PLAY VIDEO GAMES IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO.

SO THANK YOU.

AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK, UM, CAUSE THIS IS MY BACKYARD, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE TASK FORCE, BUT BEING COUNCIL MEMBERS KALE'S DISTRICT, I KNOW SHE'D PROBABLY BE, UH, WANTING ON THE TASK FORCE AS WELL.

I THINK IT'S CUSTOMER RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

NORTH SIDE OF CENTER STREETS, DISTRICT, SORRY, ASHLEY.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE LINES WELL, LET'S, LET'S DISCUSS FURTHER IS LIKE, WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED REGARDLESS OF DISTRICT? UM, I'M OKAY WITH NOT BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS TASK FORCE.

UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE, UH, THE TASK FORCE TO MAKE CONSIDERATIONS ON THE KIND OF A PARK OR A VARIETY OF SKATE PARK ISH AMENITIES.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN ITEMS BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST AND IDEAS OF PUMP TRACKS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

SOME THINGS THAT ARE VERSUS MORE VERSATILE TO JUST SKATEBOARDS THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN USE GATE BOARDS, BUT BIKES, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, SCOOTER ISH, THINGS THAT GO ON YOUR FEET.

YEAH.

HOOTERS STUFF THAT JUST STRAPPED TO YOUR BODY, SHOWING YOUR AGE THERE AND PIZZA, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE KIDS ARE DOING.

BUT, UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE TASK FORCE REALLY DIVE INTO THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THINK STRAIGHT SKATE PARK, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY AROUND US THAT YOU, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT THAT WE CAN ADD TO THIS PARK THAT WOULD DRAW OTHER PEOPLE TO IT AS WELL.

UM, BUT I, I VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE IMPROVEMENTS IN GREAT CLARK PARK.

IT'S A GREAT FAMILY PARK.

UH, IT DESERVES THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND I KNOW OUR TASK FORCE WILL WE'LL DO A GOOD JOB LOOKING AT ALL THAT STUFF.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE SOME KIND OF COMMENTARY ON THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE SKATE PARK CAN JUST BE ONE COMPONENT.

YOU KNOW, THE, THERE ARE THERE ELEMENTS OF GREG CLARK PARK THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED.

THE TENNIS COURTS NEED TO BE RESURFACED, UM, UH, OR IRRIGATION.

YEAH.

THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, THE, THE OLD, UH, HORSESHOE

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THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST NOT GETTING USED THERE'S ELEMENTS.

LIKE, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCOPE WOULD BE EXACTLY IN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TASKFORCE OR BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT RESOURCES WE HAVE.

AND WE ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT WILL GO.

OBVIOUSLY THE FOCUS WAS TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE SKATE PARK.

UM, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LOTS OF IDEAS FOR, WERE YOU ALL SORT OF GETTING A ALLOCATION FROM TDS FOR TREES EVERY YEAR THAT WE CAN USE THROUGHOUT OUR PARK SYSTEM? SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN INCORPORATE.

I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE FAMILIES HAVE REACHED OUT AND ASKED, YOU KNOW, FOR MORE SHADE TREES, ESPECIALLY BEING IN TEXAS.

SO, UH, THEY'D LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THEIR LAKE KYLE, UH, QUITE CLARK PARK, SOMETHING WE COULD START LOOKING AT AS THE CITY STARTED BRINGING, GETTING THOSE ALLOCATIONS AT DDS GIVES US A REAR AND START INCORPORATING THOSE TREES THROUGHOUT THE PARK SYSTEM.

YEAH.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER, I UNDERSTAND COUNCILOR ELLISON'S THOUGHT ABOUT PROCEEDING.

CAUSE I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE FOR US NOT TO GIVE UP ON THE ALLOCATION FROM THE COUNTY, I STILL THINK THAT WE'RE ON TRACK.

HOPEFULLY WE WERE PRESENTING YOUR THIRD TIME AT POZAC FOR THE MATCHING FUNDS.

YES, SIR.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE TASK FORCE AND THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT US TO GIVE UP ON IT AS MY, MY ONLY THOUGHT SO, UM, SO I'VE SEEN CUSTOMER ALISON GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

UM, POINT WELL TAKEN.

YEAH, CERTAINLY.

AND I DON'T I'M OF, THEY DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT IF WE GIVE UP ON IT, UH, I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD START MOVING THE BALL FORWARD ON THIS.

HASN'T BEEN REALLY MUCH DISCUSSION OR MOVEMENT ON IT.

UH, AND I THINK IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE VOTERS APPROVE SOMETHING, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PART OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CHART, TRY AND ACT ON THOSE THINGS.

AND CERTAINLY I THINK WE SHOULD STILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND SEE IF WE CAN EXHAUST EVERY OPTION POSSIBLE.

UM, I KNOW THAT WHEN WE ADVERTISED, UM, UM, PROP B, UH, IT DID SAY 1 MILLION IMPROVEMENTS OF RED CLARK, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION OF A SKATE PARK, BUT ALSO AMENITIES AT ASH PURVEYORS.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE VERY BROAD SCOPE.

UH, THERE WERE INITIALLY A TASK, A TASK, BUT AS MENTIONED IN THE PRIOR PRIOR AGENDA, THIS ONE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ANYTHING, ANY OF THE TASK FORCES, BRINGING BACK SOME PRESENTATIONS AND KEEPING THE COUNCIL, UH, INFORMED ABOUT WHAT IS BEING MOVED FORWARD.

I KNOW, UH, MY PRO TEAM COACH AND I, UM, IT WAS PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

UH, WE WERE ENTERTAINED BY THOSE PUMP TRACKS.

AND IT'S AN OPTION IS WHEN SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE KIDS AT THE SKATE PARK TOO, THEY SAID, PUMP TRACKS ARE GREAT.

AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT, BUT IT CAN'T BE THE WHOLE PARK.

THEY SAID, UH, THEY REALLY WANT, UH, UH, A SKATE PARK AS WELL.

SO JUST A LOT OF THINGS TO LOOK THROUGH AND CONSIDER.

BUT I THINK THE PUMP TRACK IS WHAT COULD BE ONE ATTRIBUTE IN THIS CAKE PARK AS A WHOLE, BUT ALSO OTHER AMENITIES.

UH, UH, IT SAYS THAT ASTRA PAVILION ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT ANYWAY, UM, BUT CERTAINLY I WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THIS.

AND, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, JUST ONCE AGAIN, KEEPING COUNCIL INFORMED AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND IT WILL BE OKAY.

SO WE'VE GOT COUNSELOR ELLISON OF CASPER FLOORS, KALE, COUNSELOR RIZZO SO FAR, SO FAR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY COUNCILMAN MARISSA, SORRY, ASHLEY.

I DIDN'T, I, I FORGOT ABOUT THE CENTER STREET LINES SOMETIMES AND I THINK IT WOULD BE YES, BUT IT WOULD BE IN GREAT HANDS WITH YOU, THE TASK FORCE.

YOU SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY THOUGH.

YOUR DISTRICT.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU, TOBY.

YES, YOU'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND TO APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO, AND CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE TO THE TASK FORCE.

MOVE BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, FOREST KALE.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT STEP

[18.  

(Second Reading) An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, Amending Article II to Include a Section 12-23 Roundabouts, Requiring Use of Roundabouts in Certain Intersections, Requiring Consideration of Roundabouts in Certain Intersections, Requiring Compliance with National Standards in the Construction of Roundabouts, Requiring Notice of Exclusions, Providing Severability, Effective Date, and Open Meetings Clauses; and Providing for Related Matters. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer

 

The City Council voted 6-1 to approve on First Reading.

]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.

SECOND, READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS AND MEANING ARTICLE TWO, UH, TO INCLUDE A SECTION 12 DASH 23 ROUNDABOUTS REQUIRING USE ROUNDABOUTS, UM, AT CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS AND CERTAIN, UH, COMPLIANCE OF NATIONAL STANDARDS, ET CETERA.

UH, THIS IS ITEM THAT IS BACK FOR A SECOND READING PAST 61.

SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR IT AGAIN.

IS ANYTHING CHANGED MR. BARBARA, ANYTHING TO ADD? NO MAYOR NOTHING'S CHANGED.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION ON FLOOR.

I'LL GET YOU EMOTIONAL AND FLOOR.

I NEED A SECOND.

WAIT A SECOND.

SO I GET SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

UH, MOVED BY MAYOR SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN ELLISON.

IS THERE ANY FURNITURE FOR THE DISCUSSION CUSTOMER FLOORS? SORRY.

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UM, SO AS I WAS READING THIS, I'VE PROBABLY READ IT LIKE THREE TIMES JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT.

I DO HAVE A CONCERN IN SECTION 12 DASH 23 REGARDING, UM, LETTER B.

UM, SO I GOT TWO ISSUES.

THE FIRST ONE IS, IS B.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE EITHER THAT PART REMOVED OR I WOULD LIKE NOT FEASIBLY DUE TO SPACE OR EXISTING ROAD RAVES DESIGNS AND THE EXCLUSIONS OF WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY APPROVED BY THE CITY.

BE A LESS VAGUE.

I WOULD LIKE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, UM, A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND NOT HAVE IT, LIKE, I WANT TO SEE WHAT DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR A ROUNDABOUT.

SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THIS OPEN-ENDED IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO I GET, WE WANT TO ADD THEM TO NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT FOR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY QUALIFY.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE WHEN WE SAY, OKAY, YOU'RE RIGHT AROUND ABOUT, CAN'T GO HERE.

THAT'S THE KIND OF WORDING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN SECTION B.

AND THEN IN SECTION FOUR, I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

UM, IT SAYS THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE IN FULL EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON ITS FINAL PASSAGE.

AND SO MY CONCERN IS WHAT ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY STARTED TO BUILD, UM, ARE THERE GOING TO BE REQUIRED, UM, TO, UM, TO HAVE THE ROUNDABOUTS PUT IN? IF I SEE DICK SHAKING HIS HEAD, I'M DISTRACTED.

UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING ALREADY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE FINANCIALLY BURDENED BY THIS NEW ORDINANCE.

SO I'LL, I'LL LET YOU ANSWER BOTH GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.

I'LL LET THE LEGAL BACK ME UP ON THIS, BUT THOSE CITATIONS ARE ALREADY VESTED.

IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR US TO GO BACK AND ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO DO THAT.

SO FOR MY FIRST CONCERN IS, IS SECTION B.

AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE FOR PAIGE IF SHE COULD FIND SOME, UM, VERBIAGE TO STICK IN THERE THAT WILL MAKE IT PLAIN AND CLEAR, NOT ONLY TO THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO TO THE DEVELOPERS WHO IS NOT REQUIRED TO PUT AROUND ABOUT IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

LIKE HOW DOES IT NOT QUALIFY MAYOR AND COUNCIL PAGE SIGNS FOR THE RECORD, I'M GOING TO ASK ENGINEERING TO BACK ME UP.

NOW, WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS TO MEAN IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ENGINEERING DECISION.

AND WHEN IT SAYS IT'S NOT FEASIBLE DUE TO SPACE OR EXISTING ROADWAY DESIGNS, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE, YEAH.

OKAY.

IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON THE, WHATEVER THE CONCEPT PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY PLANS ARE.

IF THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY ACQUIRED OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER ALREADY OWNS, THAT WOULD BE A BAR TO HAVING TO INSTALL A ROUNDABOUT.

FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF THERE'S AN EXIST, IF THERE ARE EXISTING ROADWAY DESIGNS THAT BECAUSE OF ENGINEERING CHALLENGES WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR ROUNDABOUT IN THAT AREA, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION PLAN STAGE.

AND THAT WOULD PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM BEING ABLE TO INSTALL A ROUNDABOUT.

I SEE THIS CALL BEING MADE BY ENGINE REALLY AT THE ENGINEERING LEVEL.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S PRETTY, YOU'RE PRETTY CORRECT ON THAT.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH SITUATION VERY CAREFULLY.

IS THERE A DRAINAGE FEATURE THERE THAT MOVE ALLOWS TO PUT A ABOUT THERE? IS THERE A NEIGHBOR THAT, UH, IS IT'S GOING TO BE REMOVAL OF A HOUSE OR A STRUCTURE IT'S JUST GOING TO DEPEND ON THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU RUN INTO.

NOW, IF YOU HAVE TWO COLLECTORS, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUBDIVISION AND IT'S, IT'S LOGICAL, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY RE ASK THEM TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT PUTTING AROUND ABOUT IN THERE.

UH, SO IT'S, IT'S EACH ONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT VERY CAREFULLY AND THEN, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

SO MY QUESTION IS, COULD WE TAKE OUT B AND HAVE C COVER, RIGHT? THAT WOULD REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY IN EVERY CASE.

AND I TH I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THAT IS PUTTING AN EXPENSE ON THE APPLICANT TO CONDUCT THAT STUDY IN ORDER FOR THAT DETERMINATION TO BE MADE.

I JUST THAT'S, THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS IF SEE, IMPOSES ADDITIONAL COST WHEN THE DECISION CAN BE MADE AT THE ENGINEERING LEVEL WITH BOTH THE DEVELOPER ENGINEER AND THE CITY ENGINEER CONSULTING AND REACHING A DETERMINATION.

SO I JUST WOULD BRING, I WOULD CAUTION, I THROW UP THAT CAUTION IF WE ONLY RELIED ON C MAY IMPOSE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS

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AGAIN, IF I THINK DEX HAS HIS HAND UP.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, I, I THINK I SEE WHERE COUNCILMAN FLOURISH KALE IS GOING.

UM, IT WOULD BE, THAT IS FOR, IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, CORRECT PAGE, AND THEN C IS MORE REFERRING TO NON-RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, I SAY.

AND THEN I THINK I KNOW WHERE I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THERE.

AT LEAST I THINK I I'M UNDERSTANDING HERE.

AND THEN HE WAS AN, I LIKED HE BEING IN THERE, CAUSE THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, DEVELOPERS COMPANIES TO, UH, REQUEST AN EXCLUSION FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY JUST WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY THE CITY.

BUT, UH, JUST NOT REALLY SO MUCH A QUESTION, BUT I THINK I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND TO, UH, UH, WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT FOR HIS KALE AND, UH, ALSO, UH, PAGE, UH, AN EXPLANATION ON THAT.

SO YES, B ADDRESSES RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND C ADDRESSES THE NON NON-RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AREAS.

I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT IN B WE DO INDICATE THERE THAT THE ROUNDABOUT STYLE IS REQUIRED AT MAJOR ROADWAY CONNECTIONS.

AND SO IT'S NOT JUST EVERY STREET IN THE SUBDIVISION WOULD JUST BE THOSE MAJOR ROADWAY CONNECTIONS.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU, YOU RUN INTO, IF SOME OF THOSE ROADWAY CONNECTIONS ARE ONTO EXISTING STREETS, THAT'S WHEN YOU START TO GET INTO, THERE'S ALREADY DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY.

THE, THE, THE DEVELOPER MAY NOT HAVE OWN ALL THE LAND WHERE ROUNDABOUT WOULD BE, HAVE TO BE CITED.

AND SO THAT GETS OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTROL TO BUILD AROUND ABOUT WHERE THEY DON'T OWN ALL THE LAND, WHERE THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD BE CITED, THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THE CITY ENGINEER BROUGHT UP.

I THINK THOSE WOULD BE, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO BE, HAVE IT BE SPECIFIC ENOUGH.

SOMETIMES THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME LEVEL OF DISCRETION LEFT BECAUSE WE CAN'T THINK OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE SOMETHING MAY NOT BE REQUIRED.

AND SO I JUST, AND THIS IS A LITTLE VAGUE.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE I JUST, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE MORE ISSUES WITH ARGUMENTS WITH DEVELOPERS AND THE CITY.

THEN, THEN IF WE JUST KIND OF NIP IT IN THE BUD RIGHT NOW.

AND, AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING LAUNDRY LIST OF EVERYTHING, BUT MAYBE JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE EASIER IN THE LONG RUN.

MAYBE NOT.

I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO AMEND IT LATER, THAT'S FINE.

LIKE, I STILL LIKE THE WHOLE IDEA OF IT.

UM, I WAS JUST READING THAT AND IT JUST KIND OF CONCERNED ME THAT IT COULD CAUSE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE OR ESPECIALLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS COUNSEL, MY REP, WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, I'M THINKING OF A BRAND NEW SUBDIVISION, AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT LOCAL STREETS, WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE REQUIRING ROUNDABOUTS.

BUT AS PAIGE MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THEIR INTERSECTIONS WITH OUR ROADWAYS THAT WE HAVE.

UM, AND IF THEY'RE FEASIBLE TO PUT THEM THERE, UH, THAT'S THE BIG DEAL AT RANDALL LOOKOUT.

SO YES, THERE WILL BE SOME HEARTBURN ON BOTH SIDES AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS LATER, THEN I'LL BE BRINGING THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGING WEEK.

WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO GO INTO AFTER THAT CHALLENGE AND SEE HOW WE CAN GET THESE DEVELOPERS TO WORK WITH US AND, AND, UH, AND MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

WELL, YOU USE THE WORD FEASIBLE AND, UM, WORKING IN THE LEGAL FIELD FOR A LONG TIME.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT FEASIBLE TO ME.

IT MAY NOT BE FEASIBLE TO YOU OR TO A DEVELOPER.

SO THAT'S WHERE I KIND OF LONG FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC OR HAS A POINT TO IT, OR LIKE AN ENDING.

BUT I UNDERSTAND I GET IT, BUT IT'S, FOR ME, I'M MY FEAR WAS JUST LIKE LONG-TERM OH, I WOULD NOTE THAT IF THERE'S A DETERMINATION MADE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED, THE DEVELOPER ALWAYS HAS A PROCESS APPEALING THAT DECISION.

SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY TO GET BACK INTO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE TWEAKED, BUT I, BUT AS CITY ENGINEER SAID, I THINK AS THEY WORK WITH IT, THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY DEFINE BETTER WHERE IT CAN AND CAN'T, AND THEN THAT WOULD INFORM THE INFORM THE, THAT PROVISION ARE WE, THE DECIDERS OF THAT REQUEST IS JUST SAID THE CITY FOR THE EXCLUSION REQUESTS IN E SO THAT WITH CAPITAL CCD.

SO IS THAT A COUNCIL EXCLUSION REQUEST OR IS THAT AN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT EXCLUSION REQUEST AND WHO WOULD BE THE ONES TO MAKE THAT DECISION? WHAT I ENVISION ON.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PRELIMINARY PLANS SUBMITTED, AND THAT'S A POINT WHERE WE MAKE OUR, OUR, UH,

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MAKE IT KNOWN THAT WE BELIEVE THIS IS WHERE THE, UH, ROUNDABOUT NEEDS TO GO.

AT THAT POINT, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND, UH, SEEING IF THEY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS AND IF THEY DO, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COMMON SENSE RESPONSE DO THEY HAVE TO, WHY WE CAN'T BUILD IT THERE? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS A STRUCTURE IN THE WAY? IS THERE A PEC SUBSTATION THERE THAT FORCES A PROBLEM? THERE? IS IT A DRAINAGE STRUCTURE? THAT'S THERE, THAT'S WHY THEY CAN'T DO IT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE A LOT OF COMMON SENSE ON THESE THINGS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE HARDEST PART IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE COMMON SENSE AND THEY USE COMMON SENSE, BUT THE, BUT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS THE ONE THAT WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THEY CAN APPEAL AND WELL.

OKAY.

WELL, IF THEY APPEAL, WHO DO THEY APPEAL? I DON'T THINK IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.

WE MAY HAVE TO SET UP A PROCESS FOR THAT.

OKAY.

CUSTOMER, ALISON YOU'RE HITTING THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH WHAT I'M WAS GOING TO GET AT MAYOR.

UH, CAUSE I THINK HE IS IMPORTANT TO THIS ENTIRE ORDINANCE HERE.

UH, BUT I THINK THE MAYOR BRINGS UP A REALLY GOOD POINT OF WHERE THAT APPEAL PROCESS GOES TO.

IS IT JUST ENGINEERING AND STAFF? AND CERTAINLY I BELIEVE IN THE COMMON SENSE OF LEON AND OTHERS, BUT OVER TIME.

RIGHT.

UH, AND THEN WHERE DOES THAT, THAT APPEAL IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT ENGINEERING HAS TO SAY, WHERE DOES THAT COME TO? I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY TRY TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS ON THAT, UH, AS WELL.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA SAY REAL QUICK, UM, PARDON ME, I ENDED UP WITH LANGUAGE RESPECT TIME, BUT, UH, HAS, HAVE WE HAD, CAUSE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SECOND READING, UH, HAS STAFF, UH, HEARD IN A, UH, FEEDBACK OR COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT FROM ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY CONTEXT THAT WE HAVE, UH, REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE COUNCIL MEMBER? I HAVE NOT RECEIVED SPRAY ME OR ANYTHING, BUT JUST CURIOUS.

YEAH.

WHO WOULD EARLY ON, WHO WOULD OCCUR TO THE COST OF A SAY WE, UH, ASK A DEVELOPER FOR A ROUNDABOUT AND WE'RE THINKING MIGHT BE A WATER ISSUE THERE, DRAINAGE ISSUE WHO WOULD OCCUR THAT COST.

WOULD IT BE THE CITY OR THE DEVELOPER COUNCIL MEMBER? WHEN YOU SAY, WHEN YOU SAY DRAINAGE ISSUE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THERE'S A STRUCTURE THERE IN THE WAY, OR I I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK, PUT OUT SCENARIOS ON WHO WOULD OCCUR THE COST.

ARE WE GOING TO FORCE SOMETHING ON A DEVELOPER WHEN, UH, I FEEL LIKE US AS A CITY, WE'RE PROMOTING ROUNDABOUTS.

ARE WE GOING TO GIVE THEM AN ADDED BURDEN WITH, UH, STUDIES, UH, DOING A STUDY FOR ROUNDABOUT, UH, IN THE AREA OR DRAINAGE ANY KIND OF, UH, FEE THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THEM BESIDES THE ROUNDABOUT THERE, THERE IS, THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE COST OF THE PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE ROUNDABOUT THEY SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAD GEO-TECHNICAL REPORTS TO IDENTIFY ANY KIND OF UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE PROBLEMS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, I MEAN, IF IT'S OBVIOUS, LIKE THERE'S A BOX CULVERT THERE AND IT'S A LARGE BOX CULVERT, THAT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORCE THEM TO TRY TO TAKE THAT OUT AND MOVE IT ANYWHERE ELSE.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO ASK THEM TO REROUTE THE STREAM.

THAT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT.

SO LIKE I SAID, EVERY, EVERY PROJECT IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT.

WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH ONE AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHY CAN'T THEY BUILD IT? AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THE REASONS THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD IT THERE, BUT TWO, THERE IS ADDITIONAL COSTS.

SO FOR THOSE ROUNDABOUTS WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THE STUDIES ON THE DRAINAGE FOR THE AREA.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT A GOING TO BE AN ADDED BURDEN TO THEM.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON IT? MAYBE BRING BACK MORE CLARIFICATION OR DO YOU WANT TO PULL THE ITEM AND POSTPONE AND JUST HAVE THAT HAVE, THAT DOES PROCESSES FLESHED OUT? DOES ANYBODY HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT? I'M, I'M FAVORABLE OF THE LATTER OPTION THAT YOU GAVE? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR RUSH TO DO IT.

AND IF WE CAN FLESH OUT THOSE PROCESSES THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT AND GET, GET ANOTHER CRACK AT IT.

AND AT THE AUGUST 1ST AUGUST MEETING, I THINK THAT WOULD, IF COUNCIL AGREES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE MOST PRUDENT WAY.

AND WE HAVE AN ANSWER ON APPEAL QUESTION.

UM, YES.

ON THE APPEAL QUESTION, UH, APPEALS FROM DECISIONS OF THE CITY ENGINEER, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, WHETHER ON PRELIMINARY OR FINAL REVIEW OF CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THEY, THOSE GO TO THOSE GO TO THE, UM, P AND Z AND THEN TO THE COUNCIL.

SO THEY'RE MAKING A DECISION AROUND CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT CAN BE APPEALED TO THE P AND Z AND THEN TO COUNCIL THE PNC APPROVES THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.

SO IF, IF THERE'S A DISCUSSION AROUND WHAT IF THERE'S A ROUNDABOUT IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN YOU'VE GOT TO, THAT'S GOTTA BE SHOWN ON THAT DOCUMENT.

P AND Z WILL APPROVE THAT.

SO THAT THAT ISSUE GETS APPROVED BY PNC.

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AT THAT STAGE, IF YOU'RE MAKING A DETERMINATION THAT THE, THAT THE ROUNDABOUT HAS TO BE SHOWN ON A PRELIMINARY PLAN, I THINK WE COULD GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON HERE OF AN APPEAL PROCESS AT THE P AND Z LEVEL OR THE COUNCIL LEVEL IS DETERMINED APPROPRIATE.

CAUSE WE DON'T, I'D ONLY, ONLY SEE THE APPEAL PROCESS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, BUT NOT FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAN STAGE.

YOU'VE GOT A CONSTERNATION LOOK, I DO WHAT IF THEY DON'T AGREE WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEY TURN IT INTO PRELIMINARY PLAN, NOT SHOWING IT, DID WE REJECT IT? OKAY.

I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ALMOST PERFECT.

WE JUST NEED ONE MORE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THERE'S NO RUSH.

AND I THINK IT'S GREAT AND I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO TABLE IT CAUSE I THINK IT'S GOOD.

BUT I THINK IF WE COULD JUST WORK ON A FEW THINGS THAT MAYBE WE'VE HAD TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE READ AND GO OVER, I THINK, UM, HOPEFULLY BY NEXT MEETING THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WITH A SOLID HEART SAY YES TO FINE BY ME.

RIGHT.

UH, UH, I'M GONNA WITHDRAW ALL EMOTION IF THAT'S AGREEABLE TO THE SECOND GENTLEMAN HE MADE A SECOND.

SO, UM, MAKE A NEW MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.

OKAY.

LET'S MOVE ON MAYOR.

SECOND BAG.

OKAY.

SORRY.

UH, SECOND BY CUSTOMER IN FLORIST KALE.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES 61.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19.

UH, CONSIDER APPROVING SITE-SPECIFIC DECLARATION OF COVENANTS RESTRICTIONS AND EASEMENTS FOR THE HEROES MOORE MEMORIAL TRACKS AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE DOCUMENTS RELATED TO CLOSING THE PARCEL MS. SIGNS, MARIN COUNCIL, PAGE SCIENCE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.

THE STATUS ON THIS ITEM IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THESE SITE-SPECIFIC DECLARATIONS FOR THE HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK PARCEL.

AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A RIGHT OF ENTRY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION AND THAT CONSTRUCTION IS ONGOING.

UH, WE, UH, I BELIEVE WE'VE GOTTEN A DOCUMENT THAT IS ACCEPTABLE AT THE STAFF ATTORNEY LEVEL.

UM, I'M ADVISED THAT THE POI STILL NEEDS TO REVIEW THAT AND CONFIRM THAT THEY'RE SATISFIED WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE SINCE THE LAST TIME THEY SAW IT.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE SEND IT TO THEM, GET THEIR APPROVAL AND BRING IT BACK FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL.

THAT WAY, IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES, WE WOULD WANT THE COUNCIL TO BE INFORMED OF THAT.

AND TO BLESS THOSE, YES, IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE TO A DATE.

CERTAIN I SKIP IT.

YES.

THANKS.

NEXT

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(First Reading) Approve an Ordinance regulating traffic, authorizing and directing the installation and erection of stop signs for traffic control at the intersection of W Blanco Street and N Sledge Street in the city limits of Kyle.Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer

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UP.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, UH, FIRST RATING APPROVE AND ORDINANCE REGULATING TRAFFIC AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE INSTALLATION OF DIRECTION OF STOP SIGNS FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL.

THE INTERSECTION OF WEST BLANCO STREET AND NORTH SLEDGE IS A MEETING FOR YOU.

YES, SIR.

MARIN COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEERS.

WE RECEIVED A REQUEST TO LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION TO SEE WHETHER IT WARRANTED, UH, UH, ALL THE WAY OR MULTI-WAY STOP SIGNS.

AND, UH, WE DID A REVIEW ON IT AND THE AGREE THAT IT PROBABLY COULD USE SOME MULTIPLE STOP SIGNS IN EACH DIRECTION, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY PUT UP SOME TEMPORARY STOP SIGNS THERE DURING THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS FOR THE KIDS AS THEY'RE CROSSING TO GET TO THE SCHOOL.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE INSTALLED PERMANENT, UH, HALLWAY STOP SIGNS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, MAYOR.

THIS IS, UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF COLUMN ENTRY.

AND ALSO THIS IS THE, OH, THERE'S THE SIDEWALK THAT LEADS TO THE MAIN DOOR OF COMPLEMENTARY GOES THROUGH HERE AS WELL.

THERE'S A WALKWAY THAT'S CLEARLY IDENTIFIED.

UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NO STOP SIGNS KEEPING PEOPLE FROM RUNNING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.

SO THE SCHOOL PUTS UP TEMPORARY STOP SIGNS.

I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT TEMPORARY SITE STOP SIGNS, UH, DO AS MUCH AS A REGULAR STOP SIGN WHERE PEOPLE GET USED TO THE HABIT OF STOPPING FOR IT.

AND I THINK THIS KIND OF CREATES A HAZARD FOR THE KIDS THAT ARE WALKING IN THAT AREA.

SO I'M KIND OF THINKING THAT WE, UH, AS A COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER THIS ALSO, UH, I KNOW IT WAS A YEARS BACK FOR, UH, SOMEBODY WENT THROUGH THAT AREA AND ACTUALLY HIT A YOUNG LITTLE GIRL AND WAS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR A LONG TIME.

UH, I KNOW THE FAMILY AND THE FAMILY WAS THE FIRST ONE TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY TO ASK FOR A STOP SIGNS IN THAT AREA.

AND NOW SOME WORK, UH, CITIZENS WITH THE CHILDREN THAT EVERY HAVE ASKED FOR IT.

SO I THINK JUST THINKING OF THE SCHOOL ITSELF AND ALL THE CHILDREN THAT CROSSED THE CROSSWALK, I THINK IT'D BE WISE FOR US TO APPROVE THIS CUSTOMERS.

TOBY'S THANK GOODNESS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

WOULD YOU, UH, WOULD YOU CONSIDER A ROUNDABOUT AT THAT INTERSECTION? IT WASN'T CONSIDERED THAT.

NO.

CAUSE WE'VE ALL STILL GOT TO GO THROUGH.

THAT

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WAS, THAT WAS THAT A, MAYBE IT WAS MAYBE STILL FUSSY ABOUT THAT, BUT IT IS TRUE WHAT COUNCILMAN RIZO SAYS, UH, AS OUR CITY HAS GROWN, UH, OF COURSE HUMAN.

I REMEMBER CROSSING THE STREET A LOT, ESPECIALLY GOING TO THE LIBRARY.

UH, BUT THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS HAVE CHANGED.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THERE PRETTY FAST SIDE STREET.

AND UM, SO THE, UH, THE, I DO, UH, WOULD SUPPORT IT, UH, STOPPED PLAYING THERE.

THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS ACROSS THE STREET ON BLANCO.

CAUSE RIGHT THERE, YOU HAVE THE, UM, THE PARKING SLOTS THAT ARE RIGHT THERE.

SO WHERE WOULD THE OTHER SIGN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE CO INCLUDING WHEN YOU GOT SCHOOL BUSES? I DON'T KNOW.

THE SCHOOL BUSES STILL GO IN FRONT OF IT.

DO YOU KNOW ROBERT OR ANYBODY KNOW THAT A SCHOOL BUS IS STILL GOING IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL? OKAY.

BECAUSE WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP, I SEE LIKE PINE CONES ON SLEDGE ON THE SIDE, A STOP SIGN ROAD, GO THERE, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT LIKE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE THE, THE CARS PARK IN.

RIGHT.

HOW WOULD THAT, HOW THAT WORKS? I KNOW THEY PUT A TEMPORARY STOP SIGN THERE.

SO IF IT, IF THAT TEMPORARY STOP SIGN IS NOT DETERRING THE SCHOOL BUSES, THEY SHOULD BE FINE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SAME SPOT.

YEAH.

SO YOU SPOTTED THAT AREA, BUT WE NOTICED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH PUBLIC, WORKS TO FIND A GOOD SPOT FOR THAT AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT ITS TIME STAYS UP BECAUSE WHEN YOU STICK A SIGN OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARKING AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PRIME CANDIDATE JUST TO GET A PIT OR KNOCKED DOWN.

SO WE'D ALL BE WORKING WITH ALL THE QUIRKS ON THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? IS THIS GOING TO BE ON BLANCO STREET KIT DIRECTLY FRONT AND CENTER IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.

OKAY.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SEEING ONE ON EACH SIDE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PUSH THAT.

I'M JUST, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I JUST THINK I WAS GOING TO BE A THREE-WAY.

OKAY, PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT.

I, AS YOU SAID, I WASN'T SURE IF I READ THAT WRONG.

OKAY, PERFECT.

OKAY.

MAYOR PRO TEM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF YIELD SIGNS CLOSE BY, I THINK RIGHT OFF OF WHATEVER ROAD, A COUPLE DOWN HERE ON THE WAY TO BROOKLYN.

I'M JUST CURIOUS OF YOUR OPINION ON WHAT MULTI-WAY YIELD SIGNS DO AS FAR AS SLOWING TRAFFIC DOWN VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THE STOP SIGNS OR JUST WHAT YOUR OPINION IS ON THAT.

SOMETIMES I SEE FOLKS YIELDING AND STOP SIGNS OR EVEN ACTUALLY RUNNING THEM.

SO, UM, YOU'LL SIGNS OR ABUSE FOLKS WILL JUST THINK THEY NOTICE THE YIELD.

THEY KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO STOP AND THEY'LL JUST BLOW RIGHT ON THROUGH.

BUT THE DILEMMA THAT YOU HAVE WITH PLACING A LOT MORE STOP SIGNS IS THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DO THE SAME THING.

THEY MAY HESITATE A LITTLE BIT, BUT A YULE SIGNS ARE FUNCTIONAL, BUT THEN FOLKS REALLY HAVE JUST HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW LAWN AND DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE DILEMMA.

THEY'RE NOT DOING IT.

ARE YOU ASKING ME IF I WOULD PREFER TO STOP SIGN OR YIELD CURIOUS BECAUSE THOSE YIELD SIGNS OVER THERE.

I MEAN, I, I CERTAINLY YIELD BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE DOESN'T HAVE YIELD SIGNS.

IT'S IT'S THROUGH TRAFFIC.

SO IF YOU DON'T YIELD AND YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST BLOW RIGHT THROUGH, YOU CAN GET T-BONED.

SO, UH, SO, SO THIS ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, OVER A YEAR AGO, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO CHANGE SOME OF THE YIELD SIGNS IN FRONT OF THE ELEMENTARY, THROUGH SOME OF THOSE STREETS AND ACTUALLY SOME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN FROM YIELD TO STOP SIGN.

AND THE REASON BEING IS THAT PEOPLE WERE JUST BLOWING THROUGH THOSE YIELD SIGNS AND THEY WEREN'T STOPPING.

THEY WERE JUST RUNNING THROUGH THEM.

UH, SO I, I WITNESSED ALMOST SEVERAL ACCIDENTS ON MY COMMUTE HOME AND BROUGHT IT TO ATTENTION TO THE CITY.

AND WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE.

UH, DO YOU REMEMBER WE DID THAT EARLY ON.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT PEOPLE'S BAD HABITS HAVE JUST CHANGED WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A CITY AND, AND YIELD SIGNS.

IT'S BAD ENOUGH THAT WE GET THE CALIFORNIA ROAD AT THE STOP SIGN.

THE YIELD SIGNS ARE JUST BLOWING THROUGH THEM.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN WORRIED ABOUT IT.

THEY'RE JUST, JUST GOING THROUGH THEM.

LIKE IF THEY'RE NOT THERE.

SO YOU'RE SAYING STOP SIGNS ARE THE NEW YIELD SIGNS.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

OKAY.

I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH IT.

FAIR ENOUGH.

I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR OPINION ON THAT.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND ONE LAST THING I'M GOING TO HAVE, IF THIS GETS APPROVED, UM, WILL THERE BE NEW MARKINGS ADDED ON THE SIDEWALK FOR THE CROSSWALKS, LIKE NEW PAINT? I NEED TO CHECK WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT, BUT I'LL BE THERE PUTTING STOP BARS.

SO WE MIGHT AS WELL THE INTERSECTION.

YES, SIR.

I THINK YOU SHOULD DIRECT THEM IN THE MOTION IF YOU WANT TO, BUT IF YOU WANT, I'LL DO IT.

MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 AND ALSO DIRECT STAFF TO, UH, REPAINT THE CROSSWALKS TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY THEM SECOND MOVED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER TOBY.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION

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CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM 21 BYPASS.

ANY OBJECTION TO THIS ITEM BEING FINALLY PASSED, SEEING NONE.

NONE FINALLY PASSED.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, MARIA.

LISTEN.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, I WOULD'VE GOTTEN A TEXT.

I PROMISE YOU BY JENNIFER WITHIN, UH, WITHIN TWO ITEMS, SHE'S A HAWK ON THOSE SECOND READING

[21.  

(Second Reading) An ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, annexing 24.563 acres, more or less, of land located in Hays County, Texas; including the abutting streets, roadways, and rights-of-way into the corporate limits of the City, at the request of the property owner; approving a service plan for the annexed area; making findings of fact; providing severability clause and an effective date; and providing for open meetings and other related matters. (Shelia Lynn Webb and Rebecca Ann Hadsell, Independent Co-Executors of the Estate of Janell Hadsell - ANNX-21-0009)~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development

 

City Council voted 6-1 to approve on First Reading.

]

AN ORDINANCE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21 SECOND, READING IT IN THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS.

ANNEXES 24.5 63 ACRES.

MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS, INCLUDING THE ABIDING STREETS ROADWAYS AND RIGHT AWAY INTO THE CORPORATE CITY LIMITS OF KYLE'S REQUESTED.

UM, I DIDN'T SEE THE WHERE IT IS EXACTLY, BUT THIS WAS SIX ONE ON FIRST READING, THE SECOND READING.

UH, THIS IS MR. KOONS.

UM, OR WILL ATKINSON ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS FROM LAST TIME? NOPE.

THIS IS JUST THE SECOND READ, WHICH WAS REQUIRED.

WHICH PARCEL WAS THIS? JUST, THIS IS THE HANSEL ESTATE AND IT'S ON THE S-CURVE ON BB ROAD.

AH, OKAY.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY'S? UM, I WAS THE ONE WHO VOTED NO ON IT, BUT I DID GET IN WITH A, UH, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE FAMILY AND I GOT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET AT.

SO I'M READY TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THEM.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE TO MOVE BY THE MAYOR SECOND BY COUNCILMAN RIZZO.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO NEXT GEN

[22.  Approve a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas to Adopt and Allocate Funds for an Outdoor Fitness Court® as Part of the 2021 National Fitness Campaign. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation]

ITEM 22, UH, UH, APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS TO ADOPT AND ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR AN OUTDOOR FITNESS COURTS.

PART OF THE 2021 NATIONAL FITNESS CAMPAIGN.

MS. ESPINOSA, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, MARIANNA SPINOZA FOR THE RECORD.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN TRYING TO WORK OVER TIME TO SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES, SUCH AS SPONSORSHIPS PARTNERSHIPS, GRANTS, SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO OFFER SOME MORE INNOVATIVE PROGRAMMING, UM, OUTDOORS.

AND SO ALL THE PRE REC PROGRAMMERS HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH THAT.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE GRANTS WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED WAS TO THE NATIONAL FITNESS CAMPAIGN FOR $25,000.

UM, AND SO I'M GOING TO LET AMY GARCIA TAKE IT FROM HERE SINCE THIS IS A RESULT OF HER EXTRAORDINARY WORK AND HER PUSHING ME BECAUSE IF I HAVE MY SECTION DONE EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR ABOUT A MONTH, SO I'M LET HER TAKE IT HERE AND I'M GONNA SHARE THE SCREEN WITH ME.

WOW.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AMY GARCIA, RECREATION PROGRAMMER FOR THE RECORD.

UM, SO TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ALL OF YOU REGARDING, UH, THE NATIONAL FITNESS CAMPAIGN IN REGARDS TO A FITNESS COURT COMING TO THE CITY OF KYLE.

SO LIKE MANY, UH, MARIO HAD MENTIONED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, SHE HAD KIND OF TASKED EACH RECREATION PROGRAMMER WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURSUE GRANT, UH, OPTIONS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT TO BRING DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO OUR, UM, AREAS.

SO FROM THAT POINT I WAS ABLE TO SET UP THE MEETING WITH THE NATIONAL FITNESS CAMPAIGN.

UM, FROM THERE I SPOKE WITH JACK LENAHAN THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE NATIONAL FITNESS CAMPAIGN.

UM, FROM THAT FIRST MEETING, IT WENT WELL, IT SOUNDED LIKE A GREAT IDEA TO BRING TO THE CITY OF KYLE, A FITNESS COURT THAT IS OUTDOORS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT WANTING TO GO INDOORS AND BE TRAPPED IN WITH EVERYONE ELSE.

SO, UH, THIS COURT CAME ABOUT, UH, AND THEN FROM THAT POINT, WE KIND OF GOT A BIT MORE INFORMATION.

UH, SO THE FA UH, NATIONAL FITNESS CAMPAIGN IS A BUILDING A ROADMAP TO HEALTHY LIVING WHILE PROMOTING POSITIVE SOCIAL INTERACTION.

THE NFC IS MISSION IS TO BUILD HEALTHY INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS AMERICA, TO FIGHT OBESITY AND TO MOVE, UH, IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYONE.

SO FROM THIS POINT, I HAVE A SHORT VIDEO.

IT IS THREE MINUTES, BUT WE CUT IT DOWN TO A MINUTE, FIVE SECONDS.

SO IF YOU GUYS CAN BEAR WITH ME REALLY QUICK, ONE SECOND.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK THROUGH A STREAM.

NO.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THROUGH THIS VIDEO, YOU KINDA JUST SEE HOW THE FITNESS COURT IS UTILIZED.

UM, IT IS OUTDOORS.

IT IS, UH, THEY CAN DO SEVEN MINUTE, UH, CIRCUIT WORKOUTS THROUGHOUT THE AREA.

UM, IT'S SELF GUIDED OR THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY, WHICH I'LL SPEAK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER IS THE AMBASSADOR TRAINING PROGRAM, WHICH IS FREE TO OUR, UM, DEPARTMENT ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, THE ORGANIZATION.

SO I'LL LET IT PLAY FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER, UM, BUT ARE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.

UH, THE CLOSEST AREAS

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TO US WOULD BE CONVERSE AND LEANDER.

UM, SO WE WOULD BE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF BOTH OF THOSE AREAS.

UM, SO I'M GOING TO LET IT PLAY AND I'LL STOP.

ALRIGHTY.

SO ON THIS PAGE, YOU KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING THE LOCATION COURSE.

UM, THIS COULD BE THAT YOU HAD PARKLAND KNOWN AS, UH, AND ART IS NORTH OF THE RV SUPER CENTER.

UM, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THIS IS A KIND OF THE LAYOUT OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

UH, IT IS IN THE CURRENT CONDITIONS.

SO THE DEDICATED PARKLAND IS 13.5 ACRES.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, OUR PROPOSED TRAIL IDEA IS TO GO THROUGH THIS AREA.

SO OUR TRAIL SYSTEM WOULD BE COINCIDE WITH THIS AREA.

SO IT WOULD GET A LOT MORE USE OUT OF THE FITNESS COURT.

UH, THE TRAIL HEAD WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS FITNESS COURT.

SO, UH, WE WOULD BRING A LOT MORE, UH, INDIVIDUALS INTO THIS AREA.

ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU SEE THE, UH, ANTICIPATED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FROM THIS, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION.

UM, LET'S SEE IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING ON THIS ONE ON THE VERY BOTTOM.

YOU SEE THE CURRENT IMAGES, I KNOW MARIANNA AND THE TRAILS TEAM HAVE GONE OUT THERE TO SEE THIS AREA.

IT IS, UM, A REAL BIG NATURE AREA.

IT'S, IT'S UNDEVELOPED.

SO, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF TREES OUT THERE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE FOR SHADE STRUCTURE.

UM, OUR PLAN IS TO BRING IN OTHER SHADE STRUCTURES INTO THIS AREA AS WELL, TO HELP WITH THE TEXAS HEAT.

UH, LET'S SEE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ON THIS IMAGE IS THE OVERALL, UH, IMAGE OF THE CITY OF KYLE.

THE RED STAR WOULD BE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSAL, UH, FITNESS COURT.

IT IS IN THE CENTER OF KYLE AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT NFC WANTED TO BRING AS WELL.

THEY WANTED TO BE SOMETHING CENTRALIZED SO THAT EVERYONE GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THIS FACILITY IN THIS COURT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

ALRIGHTY.

SO FOR THE PROGRAM FUNDING OVERALL, WOULD IT COST 130,000, BUT LIKE MARIANNA HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THE $25,000 GRANT.

UH, THE REST OF THE HUNDRED AND FIVE WOULD WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE, UH, PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND, UH, TO COME ALL OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO WORK TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT COST AND WORKING WITH LOCAL SPONSORS AND DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF PARTNER WITH US SO THEY CAN GET THEIR NAME OUT THERE AND GET THEIR NAME ON THE COURT, UM, AND GET SOME PUBLICITY FROM THAT.

UH, SO WITHIN THAT HUNDRED AND 5,000, WE WOULD GET THAT FITNESS COURT MOBILE APP.

IT IS A FREE APP THAT WE COULD EVEN PUT OUT QR CODES.

SO ANYBODY AT THIS AREA CAN SCAN, UM, THE FITNESS SEASONS THAT YOU SEE ON 2021 ACCESS, THEY HAVE A SUMMER, A FALL AND A SPRING.

UH, SO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT KIND OF THINGS GOING ON BETWEEN THOSE TIMES.

THEY HAVE A, A COMPETITION I KNOW WAS FOR THE SPRING TIME.

AND IT KINDA JUST GOES BASED ON THE SEASONS.

UH, THE AMBASSADOR TRAINING WAS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

THEY WOULD BRING THAT IN AND OUR STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TRAINED SO THAT WE CAN HOLD OUR OWN, UH, FITNESS, UH, ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE AND THE LAUNCH DAY KIT, WHICH IS ALSO WITHIN OUR PACKET.

ALRIGHTY.

SO ON THIS ONE, UM, MARIANNA HADN'T, I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT GOING WITH THAT PREMIUM COLLECTION AND WORKING WITH LOCAL ARTISTS TO DESIGN THE COURT.

YOU SEE ON THERE THAT STATED A STANDARD COLLECTION IS JUST A BASIC BLUE COURT.

UH, YOU KIND OF SAW IT IN A BIT OF THE VIDEOS BEFORE, BUT OUR IDEA IS TO BRING IN LOCAL ARTISTS SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM SOME PUBLICITY OUT THERE AND KIND OF BRING IN OUR IMAGE OF WHAT WE THINK THE CITY OF KYLE IS.

UM, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE ON THERE, THE MOBILE APP, THE MEDIA PRESS CONFERENCE.

SO ALL OF THIS IS INCLUDED IN THAT 105, ALONG WITH THE MATERIALS NEEDED TO CREATE THIS, UH, FITNESS COURT.

ALRIGHTY.

SO THIS IS THE FITNESS COURT LAYOUT.

IT IS 118 DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

UM, A GOOD THING TO KNOW ON HERE IS, UH, JACK, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO HIM, THESE, UH, STATIONARY BLOCKS ARE SIX FEET DISTANCE.

SO THEY'RE ALREADY PROMOTING THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING.

IF FOR ANY REASON, WE WERE NEEDING TO GO BACK TO SOCIAL DISTANCING OUTSIDE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BE SAFE.

UM, SO WE ARE SEEKING THOSE OUTSIDE SPONSORSHIPS TO HELP FUND THE ART COMPONENT OF THIS AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO ON

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THIS, YOU HAVE THIS DOCUMENT ATTACHED TO THE BACKUP INFORMATION ON YOUR AGENDA.

IT IS AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE.

UH, WE SPOKE WITH NFC ABOUT THE POSSIBLE SPRING LAUNCH, UH, BUT IF WE STICK TO THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE HERE, UH, THERE IS A POSSIBLE LAUNCH DATE OF AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, BLESS YOU.

EXCUSE ME.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, MAY PROTEST.

UH, THANK YOU, AMY, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, CAN YOU GO OVER AGAIN, THE LOCATION OF WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE PLACE, THE FITNESS CENTER? I THINK JUST EVERYONE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE LOCATION.

OKAY.

SO HERE IS THE, IT WOULD BE NORTH OF THE RV SUPER CENTER.

UH, IT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO PARKLAND ROAD THAT ROAD AT THE TOP OF THE THAT'S MARKETPLACE ROAD.

YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO IT'S BETWEEN MARKETPLACE ROAD, NORTH OF THE ROUNDABOUT ON BURLESON AND MARKETPLACE.

YEAH.

AND THEN ON THE VERY BOTTOM WOULD BE THAT, UH, 35.

AND SO WHERE IN THIS PROPERTY, ARE YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING TO PLACE THE FITNESS PARK? HOW DOES THAT WORK? HAS IT BEEN WORKED OUT WITH THE DEVELOPER? UH, NO, SIR.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR, SO WE WANTED TO BRING IT HERE.

THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE COUNCIL APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE CAN FULLY MAP OUT THE EXACT LOCATION AND THE IDEA WOULD BE SOMEWHERE NEAR THE TRAIL SYSTEM.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD, THAT'S A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE TRAIL SYSTEM.

DEFINITELY.

OKAY.

CUSTOMERS.

SO WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO A DEVELOPER, HAVE WE DONE A STUDY ON THE FLOOD PLAIN THERE? CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S AREAS THERE IN THAT AREA, THAT FLOOD.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF WE DID A STUDY THERE, I HATE TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE AND IT WASHED AWAY.

UH, IT'S PROBABLY NOT WISE.

UM, BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, W UH, WHAT IS THE, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS IN AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT MANY FOR A DEVELOPMENT, IS A DEVELOPER GONNA PUT, UH, CONTRIBUTING IN ANY WAY, BESIDES THE LAND DONATION, DEVELOPERS WORKING WITH A PARKS PLANNER TO HELP DESIGN THE AREA AND HELP US IDENTIFY THE BEST LOCATION FOR IT.

BUT ASIDE FROM THAT, I THINK 13 ACRES AT THAT WILL BE DEDICATED.

UH, NOTHING WILL BE PLACED FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR.

NOW IT CAN BE ADDED TO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, LIKE IF THEY DO HAVE A PAID, WE COULD ASK FOR THAT TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE PIN.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, UH, AND DID WE EVER CONSIDER ANY OTHER AREAS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS WELL? YES.

WE, UH, LOOKED AT GREG CLARK PARK, BUT LIKE, YOU GUYS HAVE MENTIONED THE SKATE PARK AND THINGS LIKE THAT WORD AND KIND OF PLANNED IN THAT AREA.

UM, WE FELT LIKE THIS WOULD BE THE BEST LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE, UH, A COMPANY.

UH I'M I'M, I'M JUST, I'M JUST, YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WAS, I WAS THINKING ABOUT STEVE WALSH SAYS THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND BECAUSE OF NOW HAVING THE, UH, THE DISC GOLF THERE.

I ALWAYS SEE PEOPLE EXERCISING THERE, BUT I THINK WE'RE LACKING AMENITIES IN THAT AREA.

UH, THERE, UH, I CAN ALSO THINK ABOUT WATERLOO PARKING AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT, UH, THE LAKE KYLE.

I THINK THAT WE'RE STILL LACKING A LOT IN THOSE AREAS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND I, I, FOR ME, I THINK GOD, I WOULD FEEL BETTER SEEING IT ON THE TRAIL SYSTEM IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY, UH, EXPANDED ON THE PARK SYSTEMS HERE IN THIS AREA.

BUT I, I THINK THAT AREA IS STILL LACKING.

I I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A CONSIDERATION ON THERE.

ONE REASON IS I, I THINK THAT, UH, WE, WE NEED TO INVEST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON IN THOSE THREE PARTS IN THAT AREA, COUNCILOR, ELLISON, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO MAKES A GOOD POINT.

UM, I'D KINDA LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON SELECTING THAT SITE.

I DO AGREE WITH CENTRALIZED, SO THAT WOULD PUSH ME AWAY FROM GREG CLARK PARK, WHICH I'LL ALREADY HAVE DONE, AND THAT WOULD PUSH ME AWAY FROM WATER LAKE.

SO, UH, IT COMES FROM A RIZZO BROUGHT UP STEVE-O CHASE AND LIKE KYLE AS OPTIONS.

COULD YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IN, UM, UM, SETTLING ON THE PLACE THAT YOU ALL, UH, WENT WITH? SO THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, SO WITH THIS, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT YOU ALL WERE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT, UH, GETTING, UM, PRIVATE DOLLARS TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THAT 1 0 5 COST AS WELL.

HOW WOULD THAT WORK IN THE TIMELINE THAT YOU ALL SHOWN WOULD DO? Y'ALL HAVE A PLAN OF ACTION ON GETTING THAT BECAUSE IF THE COUNCIL DID SUPPORT IT, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW MAYBE WHAT THAT AMOUNT THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO COMMIT.

AND THEN PART B OF THAT QUESTION IS, IS IT LOOKING TO BE, TO COME AT A PARK, UH, APARTMENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT FUNDS FOR, UH, THIS COST PER SEAT? SORRY.

SO THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST QUESTION WAS REGARDING TO THE LOCATION.

CORRECT.

JUST WANT TO, SURE.

OKAY.

SO,

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UM, WE DID SPEAK ABOUT THOSE OTHER ALTERNATIVE LOCATIONS.

UM, I KNOW WITH LAKE HIGH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ONCE YOU BREAK GROUND OUT THERE.

UM, SO, AND THE PARKING, I THINK THAT WAS A BIG THING THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT WAS A PARKING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE AT LIKE KYLE, THERE'S NOT EVEN ENOUGH FOR 20 FISHERS TO GO OUT THERE AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO PARK SUFFICIENTLY.

SO THAT WOULD ADD IN ANOTHER COST OF CREATING THAT PARKING AREA OUT THERE.

UH, WE DID SPEAK ABOUT A STEEPLECHASE, UH, AND I KNOW THOSE DIFFICULT DISC GOLF INDIVIDUALS LIKE THEIR SPACE, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ENCROACHED BY OTHERS, UM, TO BE WORKING OUT AND KINDA THE DISK HITTING, GOING OFF TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

SO THOSE LOCATIONS WERE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THIS WAS A SPOT THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT JUST RE IN REGARDS TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM.

AND THAT IS, THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO WE'D BE BRINGING SOMETHING NEW TO THIS AREA.

UH, WE COULD BRING IN THAT ASPECT OF THE PARKING AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, PLUS THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING INTO THAT AREA WOULD BRING THAT PARKING AS WELL.

UM, WHAT WAS THE SECOND QUESTION? I'M SORRY.

UH, SO THE, UH, PRIVATE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT THE DEADLINE? HAVE YOU ALL, UH, PUT TOGETHER AN ACTION PLAN ON, UH, WHO MIGHT TARGET THAT? BECAUSE, UH, JUST KINDA THINKING OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IF WE DID GET PRIVATE, UM, ASSISTANCE IN FUNDING, THIS THE ONE OF THE REMAINING 1 0 5 AND THANK YOU BY THE WAY, AND GETTING, UH, YOUR EFFORTS AND WORK AND GETTING THE $25,000 $25,000 GRANT.

UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, THAT'S A HUGE BONUS THERE.

UH, BUT HOW, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT WORKING OUT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OBVIOUSLY WOULD NEED TO COME IN WITH THE REST.

AND THEN PART B OF THAT QUESTION WAS, UH, WAS IT, UH, ASSUMED THIS IDENTIFICATION FOR FUNDING SOURCE WOULD BE DEPARTMENT? OH, YES.

I FORGOT TO MENTION, I'M SORRY.

SORRY.

I FORGOT TO MENTION BEFORE WE PROCEEDED WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS, WE DID SPEAK TO OUR PARKS BOARD, UM, AND THEY DID RECOMMEND AND GIVE US THEIR BLESSING TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS.

AND ALSO, UH, GAVE US THE BLESSING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, TAKING THE FUNDS FOR, FROM THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND.

AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BEFORE OUR, OUR THOUGHT IS TO PURSUE, IT WOULD BE MEDINA, I'S PURSUING THIS OUTDOOR FUN OUTSIDE FUNDING.

UM, AND THEN FROM THAT POINT, WHATEVER FUNDS WE DO GET ALLOCATED BACK TO OUR PARK, UH, PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND.

DOES THAT ANSWER IT RIGHT? OKAY.

I, MYSELF LIKE THIS LOCATION, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME, RIGHT, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN UNDERPASS.

AND SO PEOPLE FROM THE EAST AND WEST CAN COME AND ALTHOUGH I LIVE ON THE EAST, UM, AND, AND I KNOW THERE'S A NEED THERE.

I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD LOCATION FOR THIS IN SPECIFIC.

UM, I LIKED THE LOCATION.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS WILL, YOU GUYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO BECOME TRAINERS AND HELP OTHER PEOPLE THERE.

I LIKE THAT IT'S OUTSIDE.

I LIKED THAT THIS AREA ALREADY HAS TREES BECAUSE WE, YOU CAN'T SPEED THAT UP.

LIKE TREES TAKE FOREVER TO GROW.

UM, AND SO I LOVE THE IDEA.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S COMING FROM THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND, AND THEN HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO REPLENISH THAT SOMEHOW, BUT IF NOT, I'M STILL OKAY.

SPENDING THE $105,000 TOWARDS THIS CUSTOMERS WILL BE, UM, GREAT JOB ON BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I MEAN, IT'S BE EQUATE AMENITY FOR OUR CITY.

HAVE YOU REACHED OUT ALREADY TO ANY, UH, PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS AS FAR AS SPONSORS ALREADY TO, COULD BE ABLE TO START LOOKING INTO HELPING WITH THE OFFSET? UH, YES, SIR.

I'VE ACTUALLY, UM, STARBUCKS ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO ME, UM, IN REGARDS TO LOOKING TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH OUR DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I'M FOLLOWING UP ON.

UM, THIS WAS IN TALKS.

I GOT THE INFORMATION ON THURSDAY LAST THURSDAY, SO I'M FOLLOWING UP WITH THEM AND I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

UM, BUT OTHER FITNESS, UM, I GUESS, BUSINESSES AROUND, I'M LOOKING TO KIND OF BRING THEM IN TO GET THEIR NAME OUT THERE AS WELL.

UM, AND SO WE CAN ALSO PARTNER WITH THEM ON THAT GROUNDBREAKING AND BRINGING IN THOSE FITNESS, UM, OPTIONS FOR THEM AS WELL.

OKAY.

THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS, UH, KIND OF GO OFF OF WHAT WAS SAYING.

IF THERE'S A WAY TO WHERE WE CAN GET THOSE SPONSORS AND SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN ALLOCATE FROM THEM.

AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THE CITIES, SEE WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO ON OUR END TO FUND THE REST.

AND WOULD THERE ALSO BE WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, HAVE YOU, HAS THERE BEEN CONSIDERATION OF OUTDOOR LIGHTING OR ANY OF, UH, OUT THERE? UH, NO, SIR.

NOT, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.

THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP AT THIS TIME.

YEAH.

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WE CAN DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO SEEK SOME ADDITIONAL SPONSORSHIP AND MONEY WITH THE PART THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS WE'RE IN MILESTONE NUMBER TWO, AND IT'S YOUR AGENDA BACKUP.

AND SO WE'D NEED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION, WHICH IS A BLESSING FROM THE COUNCIL SAYING, YES, WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED.

UM, AND YES, WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THE 105, BUT MEANWHILE, WE CAN ACTIVELY WORK TO TRY AND SECURE SOME SPONSORSHIPS.

I JUST HAVEN'T SECURED DONATIONS AND SPONSORSHIPS FOR A LONG TIME.

NOW IT DOESN'T HAPPEN PROBABLY BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE US SEVERAL MONTHS TO SECURE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND WE WILL DEFINITELY WORK VERY ACTIVELY TO DO THAT.

AND THERE'S A TIMELINE WITHIN THE DATE THAT WE WERE AWARDED.

UM, SO OUR PHONE CALL WITH, UM, NFC WAS JULY 13TH, WHICH IS THE DAY-TO-DAY AWARDED US, UM, WITH THE $25,000 GRANT.

UM, AND YOU'LL SEE, WITHIN THAT 60 DAY DEADLINE FOR THE COMPLETION FROM THE CALL WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO HIT AS WELL.

UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF ON OUR TIMELINE AS WELL.

CERTAINLY I JUST, YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY REAL QUICK, MARY, I APOLOGIZE.

UH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO CARE CLARIFICATION ON THAT WE WOULD, UH, UPFRONT THE COST AND THEN BEING REIMBURSED BY ANY PRIVATE DOLLARS, UH, BACK TO THE FUND AFTER THE FACT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THE TIMELINE DID WE PROBABLY NEED TO ACT ON THIS NOW I GIVE THAT BLESSING AS OPPOSED TO WAITING ON THOSE DOLLARS, BUT AMY DID A GOOD JOB OF CLARIFYING THAT.

SORRY.

THANK YOU, MARY.

YEAH, SO, SO MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER IT MAKES ME THINK OF ASH PAVILION AND THE WORK THAT WE DID TO RECRUIT, UH, INVESTMENT PHILANTHROPIC INVESTMENT.

A LOT OF THAT ENDED UP COMING IN THE FORM OF, UH, DEVELOPERS AND ENGINEERING GROUPS AND SEEMING GROUPS THAT HAVE OTHER CONTRACTS.

AND SO IT WAS KIND OF CALLING IN A BUNCH OF FAVORS FROM THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK, TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THAT.

UM, THE, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY WE'D BE WISE TO PROCEED IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE MONIES THAT WE ARE COMMITTING TO IF WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

SO I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED CAUSE EARLY WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT FORWARD, I WAS THINKING THAT 25, IT WAS JUST A GRANT FUNDED PARK.

AND SO I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH OF A LOCAL CONTRIBUTION, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS GOING TO BE REQUIRED.

SO IF, UM, THE, THE, THE, WHAT MR. SELLER SAID ABOUT THE PID, UM, COMING IN AND MAKING IT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION, IT'S THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY WHO HAD PAID THE 105.

I THINK IF, IF THAT WAS THE CASE AND THEY WOULD AGREE TO PUT THAT IN THERE EITHER PID, PID, REIMBURSEMENT LIST, THEN MAYBE THAT IS A GOOD PLACE BECAUSE WE WOULD GET FULLY FUNDED.

BUT IF NOT, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE COUNSELOR RIZZO THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF UNUSED SPACE AT STEEPLE CHASE, UM, PARK.

SO I W WE, WE OWN THE PARK GOES ALL THE WAY TO LAYMAN, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE THERE, SO I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO MOVING IT THERE.

I KNOW THAT THE WORKPLACE DEVELOPMENT, IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLANS FOR THAT PARK AND THAT ENTRANCEWAY TO THE, TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM, BUT I WOULD WANT IT TO BE ACCESSIBLE, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO, TO DRIVE TO.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I THINK OF LIKE CAMP GLADIATOR, THEY LIKE TO BE PARKING AS A MUST AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO IF YOU PUT IT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROBABLY BE USED MOSTLY BY THE FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE AND MAYBE A FEW PEOPLE WOULD DRIVE IN TO USE IT, BUT IT'S STEEPLE CHASE.

MAYBE YOU'D GET MORE.

AND ALL I'M SAYING IS IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE SPOT, WE THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD AMENITY AND A GOOD WAY TO BRING SOMETHING FORWARD.

WE SHOULD HAVE THE DEVELOPERS PAY THE 1 0 5 THROUGH PIT REIMBURSEMENTS.

JUST MY THOUGHTS.

THAT'S AN EASY WAY TO GET THE MONEY MAYOR PRO TEM.

UH, I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, UH, YOUR THOUGHTS ON STEEPLE CHASE VERSUS THIS AREA, BUT THIS ALSO PLAYS INTO OUR OVERALL TRAILS PLAN.

SO, I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING OF THIS, THIS PITCH, BUT WHEN I THINK OF THAT AREA, I THINK IT IS CENTRALIZED.

IT'S ACCESSIBLE FROM BOTH SIDES AS PART OF THE TRAILS PLAN.

AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE YET.

SO THIS IS A PARK THAT HAS ZERO AMENITIES FROM US YET.

STEEPLECHASE HAS AMENITIES THAT WE PUT IN ALL THE PARKS HAVE SOME AMENITIES.

SO I THINK IT'S ALSO REALLY SMART OF US TO EACH TIME WE ADD SOMETHING, WE AMENITIZE IT IN SOME WAY.

SO, UH, LET'S GET THEM TO ADD LIGHTS BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE USED MORE AFTER DARK, IF THEY'RE LIT BECAUSE OF THE HEAT, YOU KNOW, DURING THE SUMMER DAYS OR EARLY MORNING OR EARLY MORNING, YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE ADD THAT EXTRA YEAR WHEN IT GETS DARKER EARLIER, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THAT MIGHT BE A CONVERSATION FOR WORD DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE TON OF LIGHTS, BUT SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE.

I ASSUME THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT LIT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST, WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS.

I KNOW.

SO IF THAT'S THE CASE FOR MR. MAYOR WITHOUT EVENTUALLY INCREASE THIS COST, IF WE ADD LIGHTS AT WORK, FOR SURE.

YEAH.

BUT THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL IS SEEKING A PIN.

I THINK IT'S A THREE OR A $4 MILLION

[01:55:01]

TOTAL PID.

SO, AND THERE'S A NEGOTIATION THAT TAKES PLACE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY, AS FAR AS EXACTLY WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE.

AND WE DEFINITELY GET, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY GET TO HAVE OUR SAY THERE.

SO I'M SYMPATHETIC TO EITHER WAY I DON'T REALLY CARE COMES FROM BRADSHAW.

I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF HAVING THE PID CONTRIBUTE.

I THINK THE LOCATION IS GREAT.

I THINK WITH ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN OVER THERE AND THE TRAIL SYSTEM, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EASILY ACCESSIBLE.

UM, AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO YOU FOR LOOKING FOR GRANTS AND PRIVATE FUNDING, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR CONTRIBUTION THE CITY.

THANK YOU, CUSTOMER ELLISON.

YEAH.

UH, I CONCUR, UH, I THINK SO WE COULD, WE COULD GIVE OUR BLESSING TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND THEN ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL LITTLE NUANCES THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE FOR THE SPOT WHERE IT IS SOME THEY'RE NOT, I AGREE WITH ACCESS TO IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT I THINK THE MAYOR MENTIONED THIS EARLIER THAT THIS MY CONCERN ON WHERE IT IS NOW OF WHO PROBABLY WOULD HAVE MORE ACCESS TO IT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK FOR ANYONE TO GET TO.

UM, BUT JUST THINKING LOGISTICALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH SOMEBODY KIND OF DRIVE DOWN IN THERE AND GET THERE, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE MORE USED BY THAT? I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES AND SEE THAT TOO, THAT STEVE-O CHASES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE QUOTE UNQUOTE CROWDED, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT IT DOES HAVE MORE ACCESS AND MORE PARKING SPACES.

SO, UM, I CAN DEFINITELY SEE IT BOTH WAYS, BUT COULD WE NOT, CAN WE BLESS THIS AND MOVE FORWARD AND THEN MAYBE WORK OUT SOME OF THE NUANCES, INCLUDING THE LIGHTING AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, AFTER THIS, BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE HARD WORK THAT WAS DONE TO GET THE GRANT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE WITHIN THE TIMELINE OF GETTING THAT ALSO.

I MEAN LIKE COOL SPRINGS PARK ON THE EAST SIDE IS ANOTHER CITY PARK THAT'S IN A, IN AN EAST SIDE DEVELOPMENT.

SO TO MAYOR PRO TIM'S POINT, YOU KNOW, EACH NEW DEVELOPMENT HAVING AMENITIES DOES, DOES HELP, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY AND BEING SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO KNOW THOUGH THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ON THIS SITE, THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A PIT PIT IMPROVEMENT.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE CLINCHER FOR ME.

GOT IT.

CUSTOMERS, ARE YOU HAVE MORE THOUGHTS? YEAH.

I WANNA AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.

I THINK IF WE BROUGHT THIS INTO A PIT BE GREAT, BUT I REALLY THINK STEEPLECHASE PARK WOULD PROBABLY BE THE NUMBER ONE CHOICE FOR ME, I GUESS, BECAUSE I SEE THE PEOPLE OUT THERE EXERCISING.

I KNOW THE TRAFFIC IS THERE.

I KNOW THEY'VE GOT THE PARKING SPOTS AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR THAT AREA.

UM, BUT IF A PIT IS TAKING CARE OF THE LIGHTING, TAKING CARE OF THE PAIN, THE EXTRA A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, I MEAN, I, I CAN'T SAY NO TO THAT ARGUE THAT IT'S HARD TO ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UH, THE, THE HARD WORK THAT WAS PUT INTO GETTING SCREENED IS GRANT.

I JUST WANT TO THANK Y'ALL.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK INVOLVED AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WAITING.

THAT'S THE HARDEST PART, BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HARD WORK MONEY ON A YEAR IN STAFF FOR BRINGING US FORWARD.

BUT, UH, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, A PLAN FOR BOTH, UH, LOCATIONS, UH, BUT IF THE PIT WAS GOING TO INCORPORATE IT, I THINK I'D LEAN FURTHER THAT WAY.

AND JUST A FOLLOWUP COMMENT ON STEEPLECHASE PARK, ART PARK, BOARD CHAIR LIVES IN STEEPLECHASE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE ALL LOVE THE STEVE.

WE ALL LIKED THE STEEPLECHASE PARK AS WELL, BUT WE GOT TO THINKING ABOUT IT A LITTLE MORE.

WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL HERE REALLY SOON, YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PARK STEEPLECHASE PARK, OR YOU WORKING AT STEEPLECHASE PARK.

I'M GOING TO RUN UNDERNEATH THE HIGHWAY.

I'M GOING TO GO WORK OUT AT BARTON.

I'M GOING TO RUN BACK TO STEEPLECHASE.

SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO JUST BRING THE TWO PARTS TOGETHER.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE WERE LEANING MORE TOWARDS BARTON AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRAIL HEAD RIGHT THERE.

UM, FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO START AT BARGAINING AND MAYBE COME TO STEEPLECHASE, BUT HERE SOON, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A METAL MANNER OF GOING UNDERNEATH THE HIGHWAY TO CONNECT THE TWO.

THAT WAS OUR THINKING AT LEAST.

YEAH.

I CERTAINLY, I SEE THAT.

I THINK, UM, IT'S STILL JUST THAT YOU GOTTA, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT AND YOU KNOW, THAT ACCESS AND GETTING OVER TO IT.

WE KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, IF SOMETHING IS A DISTANCE, IT CAN DETER SOMETHING.

UH, SO I, I DON'T DOUBT THAT Y'ALL PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO IT UNDER A MANDATE, UH, LIVES IN STEEPLECHASE AS WELL.

UH, BUT, UH, I, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO AS WELL.

IT'S HARD TO TURN THAT DOWN.

IF THE PIT CAN, CAN CONSUME THOSE COSTS.

YOU THINK YOU CAN GET US FEEDBACK IF WE APPROVE IT THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UH, THIS WEEK.

YES, SIR.

JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL PUT INTO THEIR SCOPE OF WORK.

I WILL DO IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK.

AND MAYBE ANOTHER OPTION,

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THIS, THE TIMING, TIMING ISSUE, WHO KNOWS, MAYBE WE'LL HAVE TO WONDER MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 22 SECOND.

UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILMAN SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM COACH.

WE PREACH IN ITEM NUMBER 22.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY LOVES THE IDEAS THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD WITH THAT SORT OF STUFF.

SO, UH, TO COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, TOBY IS HIS POINT, KEEP BRINGING THIS STUFF LIKE THAT WITH FRANCE ATTACHED AND IT GETS US EXCITED, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT HAS TO DO WITH PARKS.

CLEARLY THIS, THIS COUNCIL REALLY LOVES PARKS.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

UM, SO JEN ITEM 24 IS GOING TO BE POSTPONED AGAIN.

CORRECT.

SO I PUT IT AT THE BOTTOM 20.

WE NEED 23, RIGHT? YEAH.

I KNOW I'M SKIPPING.

I'M LOOKING AT, I WANT TO JUST BRING THEM UP TO THE VERY END, GET OUR BUSINESS OUT OF THE WAY FIRST.

SO I'LL TRY AND REMEMBER WHY 24 WAS THIS IT'S BEEN POSTPONED.

OH, THEY WANT IT.

THEY ACTUALLY, THE DEVELOPER ASKS FOR US TO, UM, POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.

THEY, THEY DON'T WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE ZONING ANYMORE.

SO I'M GOING

[24.  

[Postponed 7/6/21] (First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of assigning original zoning and rezone approximately 11.08 total acres of land from Agriculture 'AG' (.023-Acres) and Single Family 'R-1' (10.85-Acres) to Single Family Residential-3 'R-1-3' for property located between Scott Street and the 800 block of South Sledge Street, in Hays County, Texas. (LD Enterprises, LLC - Z-21-0084) ~ Howard J. Koontz, Director of Planning and Community Development

 

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 4-0 to recommend approval of the request.

 

  • Public Hearing
]

TO BRING UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24.

UH, FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CIF CALL TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ASSIGNING ORIGINAL ZONING, UH, IN REZONE 11.08 ACRES LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO AND SINGLE FAMILY R ONE TO SINGLE FAMILY ARE ONE, THREE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN SCOTT STREET AND 800 BLOCK OF SOUTH SLEDGE.

THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.

UH, SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A MOTION TO INDEFINITELY POSTPONE MOVE BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FORCE.

KELLY, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER ELLISON? YEAH.

THIS, THIS SEEMS LIKE A DIRECT RESULT OF THE DECISION WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I SEE WILL SHAKING HIS HEAD.

SO, UM, JUST SOMETHING TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT AS WELL.

I KNOW THERE WERE SOME FOLKS THAT WERE AGAINST, UH, WHAT THEY MAY HAVE PERCEIVED WHAT WAS DONE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.

UM, I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY, BUT, UH, I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS WERE AGAINST THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

THAT ALSO WERE AGAINST THAT.

SO, UM, THAT RESULT OR THAT DECISION LED TO, YOU KNOW, THIS RESULT KIND OF HERE.

SO THERE'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

I WOULD JUST SAY, BUT ANYWAY.

YEP.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO, UH, NEXT UP AGENDA

[25.  (First Reading) Amendment to an Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas Regulating Oil and Gas Pipeline Building Standards and Provisions; Making Findings of Fact; Providing Severability and Open Meetings Clauses; and Providing for Related Matters. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]

ITEM 25.

FIRST READING A MIN AMENDMENT TO AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS REGULATING OIL AND GAS PIPELINE, BILLING STANDARDS AND PROVISIONS MAKING FINDINGS OF FACT PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND OPEN MEETINGS, CLAUSES AND RELATED MATTERS.

THIS IS PAGES ITEM.

DO YOU WANT TO BRIEF IT OR MARIN COUNCIL PAGE SIGN CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD, THIS ORDINANCE AS PROPOSED MAKE SOME CLARIFICATIONS TO THE CONSULTATION PROCESS AND THE PIPELINE ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE AS STANDS REQUIRES AN APPLICANT TO WHO HAS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN 660 FEET OF THE CENTER LINE OF, OF A GUESTS OF A PIPELINE EASEMENT, UM, TO CONSULT WITH THE UTILITY PROVIDER AND PROVIDE A 15 DAY COMMENT PERIOD.

BASICALLY, UM, THAT PROCESS DOES NOT IT'S, IT'S JUST A PROCESS TO RECEIVE RES RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE, THE PIPELINE COMPANY.

THE, THE COMPANY COULD PROVIDE COMMENTS OR NOT PROVIDE COMMENTS.

AND THEN THE CITY PROCEEDS WITH ITS APPLICATION PROCESS FROM THERE, UM, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS MAKE SOME CHANGES AND CLARIFICATIONS TO THAT PROCESS IF THE COUNCIL DESIRES TO MAKE THOSE, BECAUSE THERE'S A, FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE THIS AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW? UM, NOT, I, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I THINK THAT THE PROCESS AS IT STANDS IS, IS FAIRLY CLEAR.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH HAD ANY ISSUES WITH IT, WITH ANY LIVE APPLICATIONS.

SO AT THIS TIME I'D RECOMMEND THE CITY CONTINUE TO LIVE WITH THAT, THAT ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

AS DRAFTED, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM INDEFINITELY SECOND, MOVE BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND BY CUSTOMER FLOORS SCALES, OR ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

LAST ITEM, AGENDA

[23.  Discussion and possible action to consider adding Council workshop sessions. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

[02:05:01]

ITEM NUMBER 23, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER ADDING COUNCIL WORKSHOP SESSIONS.

UH, THIS IS MY ITEM.

IT CAME FROM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY S A WEEK OR TWO AGO, UM, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE, THE QUANTITY AND VOLUME OF ITEMS, OF COURSE TONIGHT MAY NOT BE THE BEST EXAMPLE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THROUGH ALL OF OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'RE TO THE END OF THE MEETING HERE.

AND IT'S ONLY NINE 10, WHICH IS A RECORD, BUT EVEN STILL THAT'S A OVER A FOUR HOUR MEETING, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, IT COMES FROM, I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT WE TOBY'S WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAD 18 ITEMS, THE LAST MEETING, AND W WE REALLY CAN'T DO MUCH MORE THAN START AT FIVE O'CLOCK.

WE CAN'T GO ANY EARLIER.

AND THEN IF EXECUTIVE SESSION ROLLS OVER AND THEN SOMETIMES OUR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ITSELF THAT, YOU KNOW, MERIT FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SO WE FIND OURSELVES POSTPONING ITEMS OR DELAYING ITEMS, OR TAKING VOTES AT MIDNIGHT AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS.

AND THE, UM, THE THOUGHT MIGHT BE THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE, IF SOME OF OUR AGENDAS ARE GETTING BIGGER AND MEATIER AND HEAVIER, UH, WE MIGHT CONSIDER ADDING ANOTHER MEETING, A WORKSHOP TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SORTA PROCESS THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS, ASK MORE QUESTIONS IN A MORE INFORMAL MANNER, UH, AND THEN GIVE STAFF THE ABILITY TO SORT OF RESPOND TO THOSE, MAYBE GO BACK AND DO SOME RESEARCH AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

SO THE WAY SAN MARCOS DOES IT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY HAVE A WORKSHOP THE DAY BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING, LIKE, UH, ON A MONDAY.

UH, I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO DO THAT AT EVERY MEETING, UH, WHICH CAUSE IF WE DID THAT, THAT WOULD GO FROM TWO TO FOUR, BUT THERE'S SOME, UM, THERE'S SOME THOUGHTS AND I I'LL TURN THE FLOOR TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER.

TOBY IS, IF YOU'VE GOT ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS IS, IS, IS, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF SCHEDULING WISE IT WOULD EVEN WORK, BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET ALL OF OUR BUSINESS HANDLED IN A, IN AN EFFICIENT, UH, AND YOU KNOW, WAY WHERE OUR MINDS ARE CLEAR ON EVERYTHING, JUST IN THE TWO MEETINGS A MONTH THAT WE HAVE, UM, CAUSE FROM TOBY'S, I'M ALREADY KINDA THE LOOKS, BUT THIS IS AN OVERALL BECAUSE OF THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT CITY STAFF I KNOW, PUTS IN THE LONG HOURS AND INCLUDING GETTING AGENDA ITEMS. AND I THINK THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE BEEN SEEING OUR EXECUTIVE HAVING 15, SOMETIMES 18 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S GETTING LATE IN THE NIGHT AND OUT OF RESPECT TO GIVE EACH CITY MEMBER THEIR TIME TO DISCUSS THESE ITEMS. UH, I DON'T WANT US TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING RUSHED AND TRYING TO HURRY AND GET THESE DONE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE HITTING 12 OR ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

THE, THE ONLY REASON WHY I WAS BRINGING THIS UP IS AS WE'RE STARTING GETTING INTO THE BUDGET SEASON OR ACTUALLY THE BUDGET MONTH STARTING NEXT MONTH, UM, A LOT OF THE PROJECTS AND THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS ARE TAKING A LOT OF TIME AND IS JUST A CONSIDERATION FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN GIVE THE TIME AND GIVE STAFF THE, THE COURTESY AND US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME GOOD DECISIONS AND QUALITY DECISIONS AND, UM, AND HOLD IT IN.

SO AS AN EXAMPLE, AGAIN, UH, AN, AN IDEA I HAD, KEN WOULD HAVE IT TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE COUNCIL WEEK.

WE WOULD HAVE THE EXECUTIVE ON TUESDAY AND THEN WE WOULD, IF WE NEEDED IT TO FALL, AND THEN WE WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH A COUNCIL MEETING ON THE THURSDAY AND JUST HAVE IT ON THERE.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO GO FINISH UP ON, ON FOLLOW UPON WOULD BE THAT THURSDAY.

AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET IT ALL DONE WITHIN A MATTER OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF HOURS, UH, POSTING THE AGENDA OF COURSE, IS AN ISSUE WITH THE 72 HOURS.

AND WE COULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT ON THAT END, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT NOT AS GOING FORWARD, IF THIS WOULD BE THE NORM, IT WOULD BE IN SITUATIONS LIKE I'M THINKING ABOUT NEXT MONTH WHEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET COMING UP, UH, AND PLUS OUR WORKLOAD AS IT IS ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. IT IS JUST A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH THE MAYOR ON THAT AND, AND JUST GIVING THE TIME THAT WE HAVE.

AND I UNDERSTAND WE ALSO HAVE FAMILY.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TASK FORCE AND OTHER MEETINGS THAT WE'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH.

I AM NOT TAKING THAT AWAY.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE THAT, BUT THESE ARE JUST IDEAS THAT I'M COMING UP WITH TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WHEN IT COMES TO THE MEETINGS, TO WHERE WE CAN BE ABLE TO HAVE THE QUALITY TIME AND FEEL THAT WE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THE STAFF NEEDS FROM US, WE JUST HAVE THAT EXTRA DAY DURING THAT WEEK.

SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE CONVERSATION THAT'S WHERE RESUME.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE AT.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS

[02:10:01]

I WOULD START OFF WITH IS ENCOURAGING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS, UH, ANSWERED AHEAD OF TIME.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS WE WANT TO ASK DURING THE MEETING.

SO THE PUBLIC GETS THOSE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ON OUR AGENDA THAT WE CAN GO, UM, ON OUR OWN, INITIATE THE CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND GET THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED ANSWERED.

I THINK THAT WILL HELP FACILITATE THE MEETINGS A LOT QUICKER.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD ASK IS I GUESS, TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER SCHEDULED MEETING.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A STIPEND HERE THAT CHANGE THAT STIPEND.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT INCREASING, UH, A BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS BY DOING THAT WELL WITH THE, THE BURDEN THAT WE WOULD INCREASE WOULD BE STAFF RESOURCES AND THE PAY WE GIVE TO THEM, OUR, OUR PAY IS ESTABLISHED AS A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

IT WOULDN'T CHANGE.

OKAY.

JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE WEREN'T ADDING AN ADDED BURDEN TO OUR TAXPAYERS BECAUSE I KNOW WE GET PAID A STIPEND PER MEETING.

I DIDN'T SCHEDULE A MEETING.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS GOING TO ADD TO THAT OR NOT.

SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE ALLOWED.

UM, BUT YEAH, ADDING ANOTHER MEETING WOULD, I THINK IT'S KINDA TOUGH.

I MEAN, WE, WE, WE ALREADY GIVE A LOT OF TIME TO OUR CITY AND, UH, UH, I DON'T MIND GIVING TIME, BUT, UH, THERE, THERE'S A POINT WHERE, UH, YOU'RE WORKING FULL TIME AND YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM FAMILY TIME.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE.

I LOVE SERVING THE CITY.

I LOVE GIVING BACK TO MY CITY, BUT, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHERE'S THE POINT WHERE THE CUTOFF IS BECAUSE, UH, I, I'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT, UM, THIS ISN'T A FULL-TIME JOB.

THIS IS A PART-TIME JOB, EVEN THOUGH THAT MOST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PUT IN FULL-TIME HOURS, THIS IS A PART-TIME JOB IN, UH, I, I, I'M WONDERING, UH, WHERE WE DRAW THE LINE OR THOUGHTS WITH RIZZO, AS MUCH AS I LOVE TO SERVE.

AND I DO IT, I DO ABOUT 40 HOURS A WEEK.

I ALSO HAVE A JOB AND I ALSO HAVE A HUSBAND AND I ALSO HAVE KIDS AND I ASKED TO HAVE ME.

AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO LIE.

I'VE NEGLECTED ME A LOT LATELY.

AND SO I FINALLY HAD TO TELL MYSELF, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING THIS WEEKEND.

AND I DID ANYWAYS.

I STILL SPENT A SOLID 10 HOURS DOING STUFF FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND, AND AS MUCH AS I WISH WE HAD THE, THE TIME TO, UM, DO AN EXTRA MEETING FOR ME, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M GOING TO GET THAT TIME FROM.

I HAVE, I WORK UNTIL THREE 30 AND THAT'S IN WESTLAKE.

SO THEN I'D DRIVE BACK AND NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR 30 AND SO I GOT TO EAT SOMETIME.

AND SO I THINK MAYBE WHEN LIFE'S, MAYBE WHEN SCHOOL'S IN SESSION OR THERE'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF SCHEDULE, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT NOW IT WAS FOR SURE, NOT A GOOD TIME FOR US TO BE ADDING ANOTHER BUDGET MEETING OR ANY KIND OF MEETING.

IT DIDN'T MAKE LIFE EXTREMELY.

AND I DON'T WANT TO MISS ANY MEETINGS.

I REALLY ENJOY BEING HERE, CUSTOMER ALISON.

UM, YEAH.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT HERE AND I DO EMPATHIZE.

UM, CERTAINLY, UM, ESPECIALLY YOU COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS, UM, WITH YOUR WORK SCHEDULE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WHAT I ALWAYS JUST TRY TO REMIND RESIDENCES, YOU KNOW, CAUSE A LOT, I HEAR A LOT OF FOLKS IS THAT THREE MINUTES, ISN'T A TIME FOR ME TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, TO SAY EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY, WE'LL, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR EMAILS FLOOD OUR EMAILS, WHICH ARE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO GET TO US AND EXPRESS TO US YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS ON VARIOUS AGENDA ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

UM, THE OTHER THING I W WANTED TO SAY IS, UH, I THINK WE COULD DO THIS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

MAYBE JUST IN THAT DAY, WE KNOW, HEY, WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT MORE TO GO.

IT'S TUESDAY NIGHT, IT'S GETTING LATE AND MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO, I KNOW SOMETIMES WE JUST WANT TO POWER THROUGH, BUT MAYBE WE MAKE THAT DECISION AND SAY, HEY, WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT STILL A LOT MORE TO GO.

THERE'S STILL SOME WEIGHTY DECISIONS TO MAKE LET'S, UH, HAVE STAFF POST FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE 72 HOURS, UM, TIMEFRAME.

AND WE MEET WHENEVER, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY FRIDAY.

MAYBE WHENEVER THAT TIMEFRAME IS, AND WE JUST DO IT.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL THAT THAT'S A TOOL IN OUR TOOL CHEST, I GUESS, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

AND WHEN THAT COMES UP AND A LONG NIGHT THAT WE, WE TRY AND UTILIZE THAT, UM, I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SWAY COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM ASKING QUESTIONS, UM, AT COUNCIL MEETINGS, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE QUESTIONS THAT I MADE, I KNOW, OR HOWEVER I MIGHT FEEL ABOUT THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, CERTAINLY I ENCOURAGE COUNCIL AND I THINK HOPE I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF TURN WITH SCOTT HERE, BUT, UH, UM, WITH SCOTT AND THE EXTENSION OF STAFF TO ASK QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME.

SO, OR LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING

[02:15:01]

AHEAD OF TIME, BUT STILL ASK THEM THROUGH THE PUBLIC MIRIAM MEETING.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PUBLIC PROCESS IS ASKING QUESTIONS PUBLICLY.

EVEN IF WE ALREADY DO HAVE THEM ANSWERED, OR IF STAFF ALREADY KNOWS WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE.

UM, BECAUSE ONE THING I LEARNED FROM A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER RATE, BRIAN IS SOMETIMES YOU ASK QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERS TO, BUT IT'S TO GET IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE.

AND SO I'VE ALWAYS TAKEN THAT TO HEART AND I ALWAYS ADMIRED FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER WRIGHT BRYANT, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE LESSONS I LEARNED FROM HIM.

SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY MAYBE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE, YOU ASK YOUR QUESTIONS TO STAFF AND SAY, HEY, I'M GOING TO BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

THESE WILL BE COMING UP.

AND THAT WAY THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT IN THEIR ANSWERS AND RESPONSES, BUT, UH, I THINK IT JUST, ULTIMATELY, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST BE COGNIZANT, THIS IS THE TOOL IN OUR TOOL CHEST.

AND IF IT'S GETTING A LATE NIGHT THAT WE HAVE THE OPTION TO, UH, HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING LATER THAT WEEK, SCOTT, DOES IT HAVE TO BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING OR IT COULD BE A CONTINUANCE, I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR PAGE.

IT STILL HAS TO BE NOTICED.

IT HAS TO BE NOTICED.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'LL CONTINUE, BUT WHAT IF IT GOES PAST MIDNIGHT? I THINK IT'S THE ADJOURNMENT PROBABLY THAT TRIGGERS THE END OF ONE MEETING AND STARTING THE NEXT.

SO IF WE DID AN ADJOURN AND WE, UH, POSTPONE TO ANOTHER DAY, IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULD JUST BE CONTINUATION OF THE MEETING, CORRECT.

YOU CAN RECESS, BUT HAVE TO TAKE IT UP THE NEXT DAY.

OTHERWISE IT'D BE, HAVE TO BE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING, RIGHT? IF WE DO THE REDIRECT, CORRECT WITH THE 72 HOURS, NOTICE, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION PAGE.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND WHEN I'M BRINGING THIS OUT, IT'S NOT REFERENCING GETTING YOUR ANSWERS AHEAD OF TIME.

IT'S THE AMOUNT OF THE WORKLOAD THAT'S COMING THROUGH AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE PROJECTS AND HOW MANY MORE ITEMS AS YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS.

UM, IT'S JUST TO BE MINDFUL THAT IF WE DO HAVE MORE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA, MORE ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS, UH, IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND YES, I DO HAVE MY WORK SCHEDULE.

I DO THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, ADDRESSING THAT, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND, AND GOING INTO WORK AN HOUR LATER, AND I PULLED MANY HOURS, MANY HOURS OF THAT.

UH, I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN STREAMLINE THIS A LOT EASIER FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING STAFF.

THAT'S THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS.

WHY, WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP? YEAH, I CAN AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FRUSTRATIONS.

AND I THINK WE CAN ALL ADMIT THAT WHEN WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, WE ARE NOT AS CLEAR-HEADED AND NOT AS WITH IT AS WE ARE WHEN WE GET HERE AT FIVE OR SIX, OR EVEN WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS NOW SEVEN THROUGH NINE.

UM, AND I THINK THE KEY TAKEAWAY, BECAUSE IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE OBLIGATED TO A SECOND MEETING, BUT THE KEY TAKEAWAY THAT I'M GETTING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER TOPIA IS, IS THAT WE NEED TO FIND SOME EFFICIENCY IS THE WORD THAT HE USED.

WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING TO HELP US BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THESE HUGE AGENDAS AND WITH THESE HUGE THINGS THAT WE ARE TASKED WITH VOTING ON, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED AND MAKING SURE, UM, I THINK WE ALL DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF GETTING OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFOREHAND.

UM, BUT JUST DOING, FIGURING OUT WHAT WE CAN DO, THAT'S GOING TO HELP.

THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE MEETINGS RUN A LITTLE BIT SMOOTHER AND NOT GO UNTIL THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

I THINK SOME OF THAT CAN BE LIMITING PRESENTATIONS CAUSE PRESENTATIONS PROCLAMATIONS IN THE EARLY PART.

YOU KNOW, THERE'VE BEEN MANY TIMES WHEN IT'S NINE O'CLOCK BEFORE WE EVEN GET STARTED REALLY ON THE MEAT OF THE AGENDA.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I, UNLESS WE WANT TO ACTUALLY CREATE SOME KIND OF POLICY, YOU KNOW, WHICH I GUESS MAYBE WE COULD, BUT, UM, JUST SOMETHING FOR US TO ALL BE AWARE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, FROM A PRESENTATION STANDPOINT, SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST ONE AND SOMETIMES IT'S, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THEN STAFF BRINGS PRESENTATIONS AS WELL.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT A HOUR MEETING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET TO GET TO THE BUSINESS AT HAND, BUT THEN YOU THINK THE OTHERWISE LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEM HANGING AND DO GET OUR BUSINESS HANDLED FIRST.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO CAN WE EMAIL THE PRESENTATION? YEAH, WELL, THERE'S A THERE'S PURPOSES FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR PRESENTATION.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, BUT AT A MINIMUM WE OUGHT TO BE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING STAFF, WE OUGHT TO BE LIMITING THE, THE TIME, UH, THAT WE ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATIONS, UH, JUST IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, FROM ONE PRESENTATION TO THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE 10 MINUTES

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TRYING TO LIKE ROUNDTRIP IT.

I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND ONE REASON WHY IS THAT I REMEMBER A PRESENTATION JUST SHORTLY.

IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION, GREAT BUNCH OF PEOPLE, BUT THAT PRESENTATION TOOK AN HOUR AND THAT, YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME WE GOT TO THE WORK, WE'RE ALREADY A LITTLE TIRED, EVEN THOUGH IT'S EARLY IN THE DAY.

SO I THINK LIMITING THE TIME ON PRESENTATIONS, UM, WOULD BE GREAT.

DOES IT MEAN NOT HAVING A PRESENTATION, JUST BEING COGNIZANT OF EVERYBODY'S TIME AND, AND NOT JUST THE COUNCIL OR THE STAFF, BUT ALSO THE STUDENTS FOR YOU.

THAT'S WATCHING OUR MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, UH, HOW MUCH DO THEY WANT TO SEE IN A PRESENTATION OR DO THEY WANT TO GET TO THE BUSINESS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SO SOMETHING TO THAT, CERTAINLY THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE WATCHING FOR A SPECIFIC ITEM AND THEY FATIGUED WHEN THEY REALIZED THAT IT'S HOURS BEFORE THEIR ITEM MIGHT COME UP.

BUT THAT'S THE GOVERNMENT PART OF IT, YOU KNOW? SO, WELL, I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOT THE MOMENTUM HERE TO ESTABLISH ANYTHING YET, BUT AT LEAST WE'VE KIND OF HAD THE CONVERSATION.

I KNOW IT'S ON EVERYONE'S MIND.

SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON IT? WE'RE FINISHED WITH EXEMPT.

YES, SIR.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.