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MITCHELL HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK NOW? YOU'RE READY.
SO WE, THIS IS OUR THIRD BUNCH OF WHATSAPP, AND HOPEFULLY WE ARE ALL PROFESSIONALS BY NOW WITH, UH, THE PROPOSED
UH, YOU HAVE A FULL PACKET IN FRONT OF YOU.
WE'VE GOT SOME SLIDES HERE ONLINE, WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO BECAUSE THERE WERE VERY FEW CHANGES MADE AT THE END OF THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP IS WE COMPILED THOSE CHANGES INTO A SLIDE, WHICH IS SLIDE THREE.
AND MY INTENTION THIS MORNING IS TO JUST GO THROUGH THESE CHANGES.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME FROM THE LAST WORKSHOP WE DID SEND OUT EARLIER THE ESTIMATED TAX ROLE, BUT IT IS NOT FINAL.
SO WE ARE NOT YET READY FOR THE, UH, THE TAX RATE CONVERSATION THAT WILL BE AT BUDGET WORKSHOP.
NUMBER FOUR, WITH THAT SAID AGAIN, SLIDE THREE IS THE SUM TOTAL OF THE, THE CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.
I DO KNOW THAT FROM THE LAST MEETING TO THIS, THERE'VE BEEN SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, UH, ABOUT PROPOSED CHANGES IN, UH, OR FORTHCOMING IN THIS MEETING.
SO WE ARE, I BELIEVE PREPARED TO DISCUSS SOME OF THOSE ALSO ON THE HIP BULLET.
NUMBER ONE, AND JUST GO DOWN SLIDE THREE.
SO A BUDGET WORKSHOP HELD JUNE 26TH, BUT IT WORKSHOP TWO, I SHOULD SAY THE NEXT BULLET HERE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WERE PROPOSED AS FOLLOWS.
SO IN THE BUDGET, WE HAVE ADDED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION FOR THE SENIOR CENTER PROJECT.
NOW I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF PAUSE AND GIVE A LITTLE UPDATE ON EACH ONE OF THESE, THE SENIOR OR CAZ, I SHOULD SAY THE, THE KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE TASKFORCE MET WITH KAZ THIS WEEK, UH, WENT OVER THE PLANS FOR THE NEW BUILDING AS PROPOSED BY, UH, STEVE BAKER.
WHO'S A MEMBER OF CAZ AND AN ARCHITECT.
UH, HE DID SEND A PROPOSAL AND AS WE, AFTER WE LOOKED AT THE PLANS, SO THAT THESE PLANS LOOK GOOD AND MAKE SURE THAT CAZ IS, IS ALL FOR THE DESIGN.
HE SENT A PROPOSAL IN FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES TO TAKE THOSE PLANS ALL THE WAY TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CD OR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
AND THAT PROPOSAL WAS ROUGHLY 7% OF TOTAL BUILDING COST, UH, BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE GOING RATE OF BUILDINGS OR FACILITIES.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY A $10 MILLION FACILITY FOR WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ON THOSE FIVE ACRES.
UH, SO AGAIN, ABOUT 7% OF THAT PUTS, YOU KNOW, $700,000 INTO QUESTION AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO COME UP WITH THAT AT THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP? AND PRIOR WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, THE CITY SPLITTING THAT COST WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH CAS AS WELL.
SO, UH, I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY NEGOTIATE.
AND AS THE DESIGN GOES INTO THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE A LITTLE LONGER THAN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UH, SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO COUNCIL IS THAT WE LOOK AT INCREASING THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO 200,000, THAT WILL PUT THE ONUS AGAIN, BACK ON THE KYLE AREA, SENIOR ZONE TO RAISE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THEMSELVES AS WELL AS TO GO TO HAYES COUNTY AND GET THAT OTHER THIRD.
NOW THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE US FROM GOING TOWARD STATE AND FEDERAL SOURCES TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS, WHICH WE WILL DO NOW WITH THE ADDITION OF OUR FEDERAL LOBBYIST.
THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE QUESTIONS.
NUMBER TWO, UH, ADDED 78,000 4 32 FOR A SENIOR PLANNER POSITION IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AGAIN, THAT WAS A PROPOSAL RECOMMENDATION MADE DURING THE LAST WORKSHOP.
SO WE WENT FORWARD AND ADDED THAT AS WELL.
NUMBER THREE, ADDED $12,610 TO CHANGE THE PARKS CREW LEADER POSITION TO A PARKS AND TRAILS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR ITEM FOUR, ADDED
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$130,000 FOR OUTDOOR FITNESS COURT.THE CIP FOR THAT COURT, UH, FROM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, AND THERE'S AN ASSOCIATED OFFSETTING REVENUE.
SO THAT FUTURE PAID REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE WORKPLACE DEVELOPMENT IS, ARE ASSOCIATED TO OFFSETTING REVENUE FOR THAT ITEM, ITEM FIVE, WE ADDED TO THE UTILITY, THE WASTE WATER UTILITY $2.1 MILLION FOR A SLUDGE DE-WATERING PRESS SYSTEM FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION.
THIS ONE IS A PRETTY HEFTY ITEM.
UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A POSITION WITH OUR SLUDGE, UH, OUR PRESS AND HOLLER, WHO IS THE SAME COMPANY RIGHT NOW.
UH, THEY ARE, UH, IMMINENTLY GOING TO BE WRAPPING UP SERVICES FOR THE CITY BECAUSE OF SOME FOREST AS YOUR ISSUES THAT THEY ARE CLAIMING.
AND, UH, WE'RE ACTIVELY TRYING TO SOLICIT ANOTHER PROVIDER FOR OUR PRESS AND HALL.
UH, WITH THAT THE, THE COST IS INCREASING QUITE A BIT IN THE PRESENT HALL.
AS WE LOOK AT OUTSOURCING, CONTINUING TO OUTSOURCE THAT, UH, THE COST IS, IS GROWING, UH, TO WHERE IT MAKES SENSE JUST TO ADD OUR OWN PRESS AND THEN PROVIDE, UH, HAULING THROUGH TDS BASICALLY UNTIL WE GET OUR OWN HAUL TRUCK AND A WHOLE PERSON.
SO THIS $2.1 MILLION ADDS A LARGER, I THINK IT'S A THREE METER PRESS, WHICH IS A LARGER PRESS, ALLOWS US TO PRESS MORE SLEDGE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, TIME IN THE OPERATOR WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO BE AT THE PRESS.
AND THEN IN FUTURE BUDGET YEARS, WE'D COME BACK PROBABLY FOR AN ADDITIONAL OPERATOR POSITION AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, UTILIZING ADDITIONAL FUNDS WITHIN THE CURRENT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BOND, UH, HELPS US BRING THE COST OF THAT PRESS DOWN.
IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
THERE IS SOME CONTINUANCY THAT WE CAN PERHAPS USE DEPENDING ON HOW THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO PROGRESS TOWARD COMPLETION.
UH, BUT THIS WOULD GET US COMFORTABLY TO ADDING THAT THREE METER PRESS WITHOUT THE CONTINGENCY.
AND SHE SAID SHE WAS NOT IMPRESSED.
I WAS LIKE, THAT IS FANCY, WAS LIKE, I WAS LIKE READY TO PROCESS.
AND SO, AND I WAS LIKE, THAT'S DISGUSTING, BUT LIKE SO OLD.
AND I WAS LIKE, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY.
IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES YOU DON'T REALLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT IT DOES, BUT, UM, WHAT DOES CALL IT A THREE METER PRESS UH, OKAY.
ITEM SIX IS A $415,000 FOR SITE-SPECIFIC BEAUTIFICATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
THESE ARE THE CIP ITEMS FROM THE W L E PROPOSAL.
FROM THE FIRST TIME WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE W LEE CONTRACT, WE, WE BASICALLY PUT A BUNCH OF MAINTENANCE IN THERE JUST TO GET OUR BEAUTIFICATION STARTED.
UH, THIS IS TO TAKING BASICALLY PHASE TWO OF THE BEAUTIFICATION PLAN AND STARTING TO ADD CIP ELEMENTS TO THAT, THOSE CIP ELEMENTS.
JAMES, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SEVERAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED SO EFFECTIVELY EVERYTHING THAT CAME INTO THE CONTRACT FOR LAST YEAR, WHENEVER WE ORIGINALLY ACCEPTED THAT CONTRACT, THERE WAS A LAUNDRY LIST OF CIP IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE IN THEIR ORIGINAL BID FOR THEIR TWO YEAR CONTRACT.
SO THE FIRST YEAR WE ONLY DID MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS WITH WLA THIS YEAR, WE PROPOSE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE CIPS THAT WLA HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, WHICH INCLUDES THINGS SUCH AS INSTALLING IRRIGATION IN THE MEDIANS OF, OF 16, 26 CALLED PARKWAY, INSTALLING TREES, UM, CREPE, MYRTLES, AND THEY DO, THEY DID HAVE SOME PLANS FOR THE, FOR THE BURLESON ROUNDABOUT, BUT PUBLIC WORKS ALSO HAS LIKE A SIGN THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
UH, YOU KNOW, SOME MONUMENTATION IN THE MIDDLE.
SO THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD GO TOGETHER, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S NOT ONLY JUST PUTTING IN TREES AND THINGS TO MAKE THINGS MORE BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT'S ALSO BORING UNDERNEATH KYLE PARKWAY TO BRING WATER ACROSS, PUTTING IN THE SLEEVES, PUTTING IN THE IRRIGATION, FIXING ALL THE IRRIGATION, THAT'S ON
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CALL PARKWAY EAST OF 35.SO THAT WHOLE STRETCH THAT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO SETON.
UM, IT'S, IT'S THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
SO THOSE ARE ALL LISTED OUT IN THE WLLE CONTRACT.
THEY'RE ALREADY BID, WE'VE ALREADY ACCEPTED THEIR CONTRACTS.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS NOW JUST FUND THOSE PROJECTS.
AND THEN THE LAST BIT THAT I KNOW WOULD BE OF INTEREST IS ONCE WE AUTHORIZE THOSE EXPENDITURES, LIKE WHEN CAN THEY DELIVER? AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR SCHEDULE FOR ME RIGHT NOW TO BUILD A SHARE OUT TO SAY EXACTLY WHEN IT WOULD DELIVER.
YEAH, IT'S A ONE-TIME EXPENSE.
YOU'LL HAVE THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE, WHICH WILL BE INCREASE BECAUSE WE WILL BE ADDING THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY MAINTAINING, BUT ALL OF THEIR IMPROVEMENT, CORRIDORS, OR CORRIDORS THAT THEY ALREADY MAINTAIN AND TAKE CARE OF.
SO THE INCREASES SHOULD BE INCREMENTAL.
IT SHOULD BE LIKE, NOW WE NEED MORE CHEMICALS FOR TREES, OR NOW WE NEED MORE CHEMICALS FOR THIS, OR NOW WE NEED MORE MULCH, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPES OF INCREMENTAL INCREASES VERSUS, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE THE COST OF MOBILIZING A CREW TO GO TO A DIFFERENT AREA THAT THEY'VE NEVER GONE TO BEFORE.
SO, SO THE FOUR 15 BASICALLY BRINGS THAT CIP ITEM UP.
UH, WE STILL HAVE BEAUTIFICATION MONIES FOR LIKE THE GATEWAY SIGN THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, UH, AND YOU KNOW, SOME SMALLER BEAUTIFICATION TYPE UPGRADES, BUT W L E CIP AND MAINTENANCE KIND OF PART THAT BIGGER BEAUTIFICATION BUCKET.
BUT, WELL, BASICALLY WHAT IT IS IS BY THE TIME YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE, THE, THE W L E ONGOING MAINTENANCE PLUS THE CIPS PLUS THE, UH, LIKE THE ENTRY MONUMENT SIGNAGE FOR CENTER STREET AND PLUS THE LIGHTING OF, OF THE, UM, THE SIGNS AND THE LIGHTING OF THE, THAT FOUR 15 IS THE DELTA DIFFERENCE OVER THE 500,000 THAT WE STARTED WITH, PLUS THE WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT GOT DONE THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE FOUR 15 DELTA.
YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING THE FOUR POINTS.
UM, BUT THE NEWER SIGNS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR INSURANCES, RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A BUDGET IT WITHIN THIS BUDGET TO TAKE CARE OF THE REST OF THOSE SONGS? CORRECT.
SHOUT OUT TO THAT GREAT PRESENTATION BY MARY CITY.
UH, I KNOW IT WAS TOUGH PROBABLY TO HEAR THAT, BUT THAT IS, I THINK HE SAID IT WELL, THAT'S HOW YOU GO FROM GOOD TO GREAT AND NOT SETTLING.
SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OVER THERE, ALL IN ALL THREE, ALL FOUR.
THOSE, UH, THE, THE PARTS, THE DRIVERS FOR THOSE LED LIGHTS ARE ON ORDER.
WE HOPE TO HAVE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THEN HE'S READY TO GO OUT AND CHANGE THOSE OUT AT THAT SCIENCE.
ITEM SEVEN, $20,000 FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
AGAIN, WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING.
THIS IS TO BRING BACK THE CATALYST COMMERCIAL CONTRACT, AND THIS WILL HELP US SET A NEW STRATEGY, A NEW PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
NUMBER EIGHT, OUT OF 20,000 FOR DPS LABORATORY SERVICES AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THIS WAS A KIND OF A NEWER, UH, EXPENSE THAT WE'VE, WE JUST WEREN'T ANTICIPATING.
JEFF, DO YOU WANT TO MENTION WHAT THAT IS? I SURE CAN.
AND GOOD MORNING, JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WANTED TO EXPEDITE THE DRUG-RELATED CASES THAT THEY'RE PROSECUTING AND THE TYPICAL LAB WITHOUT THESE SERVICES IS ABOUT 18 MONTHS OUT.
SO IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR THEM TO GET CASES, UH, PROCESSED BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING ON THE LABORATORY TO PROCESS THE DRUGS AND CONFIRM WHAT IT WAS AND THE WEIGHT AND SUCH.
SO THE HAYES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, IS ASKING ALL THE PARTNERS IN THE COUNTY TO COST SHARE IN A, UH, DPS LABORATORY TECHNICIAN.
AND THAT PERSON WILL WORK SOLELY ON HAYES COUNTY CASES.
SO WE WILL TAKE, WE WILL DELIVER THOSE DRUGS TO THE DPS LAB AND THAT DEDICATED PERSON TO HAYES COUNTY WE'LL GET THOSE, UH, DRUG ANALYSIS, UH, REPORTS RIGHT BACK TO HAYES COUNTY IN A TIMELY MANNER IT'S WEEKS IN TERMS OF 18 MONTHS.
AND THAT WILL IN TURN, KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE HAYES COUNTY JAIL AND LET THEM RELIEVE SOME OF THEIR PRISONS.
THEY'RE A PRISONER POPULATION.
AND THAT'S OUR COST SHARE THAT YOU SEE IN THERE.
WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATURE ON THINGS LIKE, I'M SURE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALL DRUGS, BUT MARIJUANA IS A LARGE ONE OF THAT.
AND GETTING BACK IF IT IS ACTUALLY MARIJUANA, AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHER SUBSTANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IT COULD BE, SIR.
HOWEVER, THE I'M GOING TO SAY 95% OR MORE OF THIS IS ALWAYS YOUR FELONY DRUGS, COCAINE, METH, UH, MAYBE SOME PRESCRIPTION PILLS THAT THEY NEED ANALYSIS.
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VERY SELDOM DOES THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, END UP NEEDING THE ANALYSIS ON THE MARIJUANA BECAUSE THEY KIND OF EITHER PLEAD THOSE CASES OUT IN OTHER WAYS OR WHATNOT.BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THIS IS YOUR FELONY DRUG RELATED CASES.
SO METH POWDER, POWDER, COCAINE, AND SUCH.
SO IT'S, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S TAKING THE 18 MONTHS SOMETIMES ON YEAH.
IF WE USED TO THE REGULAR STATE LAB, DPS LAB WITHOUT A DEDICATED TECHNICIAN, THAT'S ABOUT WHAT IT'S TAKEN TO GET THOSE REPORTS, BUT THEY'RE SO FAR BEHIND.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT, ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THAT CERTAINLY FOR OUR AUDIENCE WATCHING TOO, HOW THAT HELPS A BIT ON THE JAIL SIDE OF MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT FASTER AND DE CROWDING THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO, UH, EXCELLENT BENEFITS OF US PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM WITH THE COUNTY AND THE OTHER AGENCIES.
NUMBER ONE THAT HELPS, UH, MOVE THE CASES THROUGH THE PROCESS MUCH FASTER IF THEY HAVE THAT COURT ANALYSIS.
AND IN MANY CASES, SINCE WE'RE TALKING FELONIES, UH, SOMETIMES THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO SIT IN THE COUNTY JAIL UNTIL THEIR CASE IS HEARD.
AND, UH, THAT CAN BE MONTHS AND MONTHS, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE WHILE WE TAKE CARE OF THEM IN THE JAIL SYSTEM.
AND THE FASTER OUR PROSECUTORS CAN GET THE ANALYSIS BACK AND THEN WORK WITH THAT DEFENSE ATTORNEY AND THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL ACCUSED TO, UH, REMEDY THAT CASE.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.
THERE IS A SECONDARY BENEFIT AS WELL.
UM, OUR COUNTY IS HELD TO A STANDARD FROM THE STATE FOR FUNDING BASED ON THE, UH, COMPLETION OF YOUR COURT CASES.
AND YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LET THOSE SIT OUT THERE TOO LONG.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A CLEARANCE RATE BASICALLY FROM THE COURT SYSTEM.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN FINDING EVERYBODY GUILTY OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE YOUR CASES PROCESSED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
AND WHEN THE COURT SYSTEM GETS BACKED UP, THAT CAN HAMPER TO THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY GETTING FUNDS FROM THE STATE BECAUSE THEY GIVE THEM A TIMEFRAME AND A CLEARANCE RATE THAT THEY'RE EXPECTED TO UPHOLD.
UH, THE REASON WHY, WELL, DUE TO COVID, THEY GOT A ONE-YEAR REPRIEVE, BUT WE'RE NOW WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE STATE WE'RE BACK ON TRACK AND THE EXPECTATIONS ARE THERE AGAIN.
SO IT'LL HELP MOVE THAT AS WELL.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW WE GOT THE EMAIL, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UH, FATI AUDIENCE AS WELL, THIS IS DEFINED A POSITION.
AND THEN IT, THE COST BREAKDOWN WAS A PERCENTAGE OF OVERALL CASES THAT WE'VE SENT TO THE COUNTY OVER THE PAST YEAR.
OR COULD YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY ON THAT, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING DO A POPULATION-BASED AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT SINCE THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIND AN EQUITABLE WAY TO COST, SHARE THAT OUT EACH YEAR.
ANOTHER GOOD THING THAT THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S GOING TO DO IS SEEK RESTITUTION IN COURT CASES.
IF THE JUDGE WILL ALLOW, AND THAT WILL REDUCE OUR OVERALL COST, THIS IS YOUR ONE.
SO THEY COULDN'T ESTIMATE THOSE NUMBERS VERY WELL, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT THIS YEAR OR FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE A REDUCTION EVEN IN OUR COST SHARING.
UH, HOW MANY, UH, JURISDICTIONS ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS, THIS COST SHARE? UH, THEY'VE ASKED FOR ALL OF THIS CITY MUNICIPAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE SAN MARCUS, KYLE AND BUDA, AND THEN THE HAYES COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND THEY WOULD COVER THEIR COST OF OFFICES AND SUCH.
AND THEN, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
I'M PRETTY SURE TEXAS STATE WAS INCLUDED IN THAT.
I JUST DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THEM ON THAT.
I'M PRETTY SURE THEY WERE SO, SO IT'LL BE EACH OF THE ENTITY, EACH OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND HAYES COUNTY COVERING THE CONSTABLES AND THE OTHERS.
UH, AND FINALLY, NUMBER EIGHT OR NUMBER NINE, I APOLOGIZE IS $5,280 FOR A 4% CO-LOCATION COST INCREASE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S A NUMBER WE, WE JUST RECEIVED FROM HAYES COUNTY.
UH, WE DO HAVE A SMALL INCREASE ALSO FOR ANIMAL CONTROL THAT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, BUT WE'RE NOT SURE HOW FINAL THAT THAT NUMBER IS YET EITHER.
SO COUNTY SAN MARCUS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL FINALIZING WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE, BUT, BUT WE WERE TOLD TO PLAN FOR 4% INCREASE FOR THE CO-LOCATION SERVICES.
THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING.
SCOTT, WHAT ARE WE PAYING NOW? THAT'S CO-LOCATION UH, GIVE US ONE SECOND.
THE REMAINDER OF THE PRESENTATION WAS THE SAME AS LAST TIME.
SO WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DO, UH, IF, IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT IS JUST GO STRAIGHT TO SOME OF THE COUNSEL REQUESTS OR ANY DISCUSSION, ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS AND, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU AFTER THIS CONVERSATION, WE'LL JUMP INTO ITEM TWO ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TAX RATE COMPONENT TO IT.
AND WE'LL HAVE PERVEZ TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
SO THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF
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ALL GOOD.UM, SO AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT, UH, SCOTT NEEDED HELP AND, UH, KALE AND BRADSHAW KIND OF LED THAT DISCUSSION.
AND THAT WAS PROBABLY THE THING I TOOK AWAY MOST FROM THE LAST ONE IS REALLY THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME SCOTT PUTS INTO THIS JOB.
AND, UH, IT'S OBVIOUS, I THINK TO EVERYBODY THAT HE NEEDS MORE HELP.
AND SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ASSISTANCE AND WHAT WE COULD DO TO PROVIDE THAT HELP SO THAT WE COULD RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY.
SO I, UM, ASKED HIM WHAT HE THOUGHT HE TRULY NEEDED TO KEEP PUSHING THE CITY FORWARD AND FROM AN ASSISTANT LEVEL.
AND, UH, THE IDEA OF A SECOND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION CAME UP TO BE ABLE TO RELIEVE HIM OF A LOT OF HIS, UH, DUTIES SO HE CAN SPEND MORE TIME DOING THE OTHER THINGS WE NEED HIM TO DO.
SO I ASKED HIM TO LOOK INTO THAT AND HOW THAT MIGHT, UH, LAY OUT IN THE, THE FORMAT, UM, AND THE WORK STRUCTURE OF THE CITY.
AND SO, SCOTT, I KNOW YOU'VE PREPARED A COUPLE OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT IN REGARDS TO THAT.
UH, BUT IT'S MY HOPE THAT WE JUST GET HIM THE HELP THAT HE NEEDS SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.
THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE WHEN WE ADD FTES AND KIND OF GO FROM THERE.
SO SCOTT, NO, THIS ONE, I MEAN, THERE, THERE, IT IS A TINY LEVEL, BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT CONSIDERATION AND THANKS ALL THE COUNCIL FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, NOTICING.
IT'S DEFINITELY ANOTHER THING THAT I, THAT I ASKED FOR.
SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, UH, WE ALL PUT IN A TON OF WORK AND WHEN I SAY WE ALL, LET ME STARTING WITH ME, JAMES AND JERRY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND STAFF, YOU MEAN WE ARE ALL COMPLETELY FULL OF WORK RIGHT NOW.
UH, I WOULD GUESS THAT WE ARE THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN AMERICA.
IF WE'RE NOT WE'RE RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP, YOU KNOW, 10% GROWTH HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN, UH, YEP.
THE FASTEST GROWING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED AS FAST GROWING ARE EIGHT, 9%.
YOU CAN WORK WITH 10, I THINK FRISCO HAD ANOMALY A YEAR AGO AND THEY WERE LIKE 14%, WHICH IS JUST CRAZY.
BUT, UH, SO WE'RE RIGHT THERE.
AND IF YOU COMPARE OUR STAFFING LEVELS TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, OF OUR SIZE, WE'VE JUST THE RATIO OF POPULATION TO STAFF IT'S DISPROPORTIONATE RIGHT NOW.
UH, IT HAS BEEN MY GOAL TO ADD STAFF INTO THE DEPARTMENTS JUST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND TO KEEP PUSHING THAT, UH, WHICH OFTENTIMES MEANS THAT, UH, THAT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT HEADS PICK UP MORE OF THE LOAD.
AND WE HAVE BEEN PICKING UP A LOT OF THE LOAD LATELY.
UH, SO WHEN, WHEN MAYOR PRETEND BROUGHT THAT FORWARD TO ME, MY FIRST BLUSH WAS TO SAY, NO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN JUST KEEP SHOULDERING THE ADDITIONAL LOAD.
UH, BUT COUNCIL HAS, HAS BEEN PUSHING AND NOTICING HOW MUCH WE ARE SHOULDERING, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL.
SO, UH, I WAS ASKED AND I'VE MADE A LOT OF, UH, OR I'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, STAFF AND COUNCIL TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE IN OUR ORGANIZATION.
AND THE MORE I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, THE MORE I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH, THE MORE I THINK IT DOES MAKE SENSE, UH, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING.
AND I WANT TO KIND OF MAKE THAT CLEAR.
THIS COUNCIL IS DEFINITELY THE MOST PROACTIVE COUNCIL THAT I'VE EVER WORKED WITH, UH, HANDS DOWN.
UH, THE, THE EXPECTATION OF COUNCIL IS, IS SUPER ELEVATED, WHICH IS A GREAT THING.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN COUNCIL SAT DOWN AND HAD THEIR RETREAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND SAID GOLD STANDARD, OR I GUESS EARLY LAST YEAR, AND THEN REITERATED THAT AGAIN IN THE RETREAT THIS YEAR, UH, YOUR FOOT HAS BEEN ON THE GAS PEDAL ALSO TO MATCH THAT GROWTH RATE AND IT HAS NOT COME OFF.
AND I THINK THAT'S A FANTASTIC THING.
WE, AS STAFF HAVE HAD TO ADJUST TO THAT.
UH, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
IT JUST, IT'S NOT ONLY DOES IT ADD TO THE WORKLOAD, IT JUST CHANGES THE FOCUS OF A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'VE BEEN OPERATING.
SO FOR ME AS CITY MANAGER TO, TO REACT TO THE DIRECTION AND THE FOCUS OF THE COUNCIL, IT'S BEEN A GREAT GROWING OPPORTUNITY FOR ME, VERY MUCH A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT'S SHIFTED MY ROLE FROM
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WHAT I WOULD CALL JUST TRADITIONAL MANAGEMENT TO, UH, BEING A LITTLE MORE 30,000 FOOT, YOU KNOW, UH, FROM A PLANNING ASPECT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, MEETING WITH OUTSIDE ENTITIES, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT SUPPORT, NEGOTIATION NEGOTIATION.SO THERE'S, THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF, UH, ADDITIONAL COUNCIL SUPPORT.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE ROLE OF CITY MANAGER THAT WAS NOT THERE BEFORE.
AND I SEE THIS POSITION CONTINUING THAT TRANSITION, AND I SEE THIS COUNCIL CONTINUING TO PUSH FOR EXCELLENCE, WHICH IS PERFECT FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND, AND WE ARE, WE ARE A GOLD STANDARD CITY.
SO JUST TO MEET THAT DEMAND OF THE GROWTH TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE COUNCIL AND THE PUSH FOR EXCELLENCE, THE GOOD TO GREAT, AND THE GREAT TO EXCELLENCE.
UH, I THINK THIS POSITION IS NEEDED TO KIND OF OFFLOAD SOME OF THE, THE, THE TRADITIONAL MANAGEMENT ROLES TO PROVIDE HELP, UH, WITH JAMES AND JERRY AND WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING AND TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
SO, UH, WE DID PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET NUMBER FOR THAT.
IF YOU REMEMBER THE LAST ORG CHART.
AND I, I DID A LITTLE KIND OF CREATIVE EDITING TO THE ORG CHART AND CREATED, UH, A SAMPLE OR CHART IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO PUT, PUT THAT UP THERE, UH, WITH THIS NEW POSITION, BUT IT BASICALLY SHIFTS SOME OF THOSE DIRECT REPORTS THAT I WOULD HAVE HAD TO THIS, THIS NEW ASSISTANT.
UH, I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WHERE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THAT BE A DEPUTY POSITION THAT WOULD BE OVER ASSISTANCE? SO WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF LOOK AT THAT, BUT IF WE DO THAT ASSISTANT OR DEPUTY POSITION, UH, WE HAVE PUT AN ALL IN NUMBER IN THE BUDGET OF 250,000 3 48, THE OFFSET, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE'RE ADDING NOW TO THE BUDGET NEEDS SOME SORT OF OFFSETTING REVENUE, UH, OR DEDUCTION FROM WHAT WE PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
NUMBER TWO, WE ARE PROPOSING TO DELETE THE, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORP MANAGER POSITION.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE FINAL PART OF THIS PUSH.
WE MADE A PRETTY STRONG PUSH I'LL CALL THAT THE CARMEL POSITION.
UH, BUT WE MADE A PRETTY STRONG PUSH TO ADD A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPS DIRECTOR, UH, THAT WOULD OVERSEE SOME OF THE PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS AND DISPOSITIONS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AS WELL AS OVERSEE SOME OF THE, THE, UM, DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE NEW STANDARDS THAT THE COUNCIL IS PUSHING.
SO AGAIN, THAT POSITION WOULD COME OUT.
THOSE ROLES AND DUTIES WOULD FALL LARGELY ON MYSELF.
UH, AND ALSO THEN SOME BE TRANSITIONED TO THAT ADDITIONAL ASSISTANT OR DEPUTY POSITION.
UH, THERE WAS ALSO, SO THAT WAS 88,511.
THERE WAS A, UH, LEGAL COUNSEL AND ARCHITECT PLANNER ALLOTMENT THAT WENT WITH THAT, UH, OF 150,000.
SO THAT WOULD COME OUT ALSO NOT TO SAY WE WOULD REMOVE THE ARCHITECT, UH, AND LEGAL POSITION SERVICES.
UH, WE HAD $1.1 MILLION ALSO IN THIS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORE, UH, BUCKET THAT WAS GOING TO BE FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION.
UH, THE PROPERTY THAT WAS IN QUESTION THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS NO LONGER ON THE MARKET.
UH, WE'VE USED SOME OF THOSE FUNDS FOR AN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY DOWNTOWN.
THE REMAINDER OF THAT WOULD BE USED FOR THOSE ARCHITECTURES SERVICES, AS WELL AS LEGAL COUNSEL.
SO THAT, WAIT, SAY THAT AGAIN, SCOTT, IT
SO IF YOU TAKE 1.1 SUBTRACT WHAT WE WILL BE EXTENDING FOR THE, THE PARK PROPERTY THAT REMAINDER THERE WOULD BE FOR ARCHITECT SERVICES FOR 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON, AND THEN, UH, YEAH, MASTER PLAN AND DESIGN GUIDELINE SERVICES DOWNTOWN.
SO WITH THOSE DELETIONS OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COURT POSITION, AS WELL AS THE ONE 50, JUST BEING REPURPOSED, THAT MAKES UP THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? ALL RIGHT.
COULD YOU PUT IT TOGETHER? I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE
UH, AND I WILL THROW THAT A PLAYER ON THE ONE
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NO, UNLESS THERE'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSION ON, OR YOU WANT TO, YEAH, I GUESSSO IF YOU REMEMBER THIS LAST YEAR, WE, WE KIND OF WENT AWAY FROM A, JUST A TRADITIONAL, YOU KNOW, TREE HIERARCHY OF AN ORG CHART, AND WE'VE MADE IT A LOT MORE FUNCTIONAL TO HIT THE CITY COUNCIL GOALS.
UH, THOSE, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS PART OF THE, THE CASE FOR KYLE KYLE BUILT ACCOUNTABILITY STANDARDS FOR EXCELLENCE, AND THERE WERE SIX, UH, KEY FUNCTION AREAS FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE, WE FOCUSED OUR ORGANIZATION AROUND THOSE SIX CORE AREAS.
AND YOU'LL SEE, ON THE SCREEN IN THE BOXES, UH, YOU ARE THE DEPARTMENTS AND YOU'LL SEE THE WHITE HERE, UH, IN, WITHIN EACH CIRCLE IS THE FUNCTION AREA.
NOW I DID ADD ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO YEAH, AS AN ADDITIONAL ONE, BUT THESE OTHER, UH, WHITE CIRCLES ARE THE SIX FUNCTION AREAS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAME UP WITH.
SO THIS WOULD BE, UH, ASSUMING THAT THE ASSISTANCE, THE MANAGER AND COUNCIL, BEFORE WE KIND OF STRUGGLED WITH HOW COMMUNICATIONS, UH, BECAUSE IT TOUCHED EVERYTHING.
UH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING LIKE A LITTLE BAR UNDER IT ALL AT THIS WAY.
I JUST KIND OF PUT THAT CIRCLE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, BECAUSE IT TOUCHES, UH, BASICALLY ALL FACETS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND THE COUNCILS REALLY THE COUNCIL PRIMARY GOAL WAS TO COMMUNICATE ALL THE GREAT THINGS WE'RE DOING.
AND, AND I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, YOU'LL KIND OF SEE HOW EVERYTHING TOUCHES, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WITHIN THE, THE ORGANIZATION.
UH, IF YOU RECALL, FROM THE LAST TIME WE, WE WENT OVER THIS, THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ITALICIZED ARE JUST KIND OF PROJECTS WITHIN WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, FOCUS AREAS, UH, OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, LIKE TECH STOCK HERE.
SO EVERYTHING JUST FITS WITHIN ONE OF THESE, THESE CIRCLES.
AND THEN AGAIN, UH, YOU'LL SEE HOW THE, THE OVERSIGHT OF EACH WOULD HAVE WHAT, WHICH OF THOSE CIRCLES WOULD BE NEW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, BE INCORPORATING, UH, OR WE HAVEN'T GONE THAT FAR YET.
I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY END UP RESTRUCTURING A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WOULD BE THIS ONE OVER HERE IN THIS, THIS RIGHT CIRCLE OR RIGHT.
THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE MY DIRECT REPORTS AND, YOU KNOW, I WILL APOLOGIZE TO, TO THEM BECAUSE OF MY BUSY-NESS, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE, THE MANAGEMENT, THE COACHING, THE OVERSIGHT THAT THE OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS HAVE RECEIVED, UH, FROM JAMES AND JERRY, UH, JUST BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO DO THAT.
SO FROM A STAFF DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THERE FOR THEM, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN PROACTIVELY THERE FOR THEM.
AND THAT'S JUST MY, MY TIME LIMITATIONS.
SO THIS WOULD FREE THAT, THAT POSITION UP, YOU KNOW, PUT, PUT THEM DIRECTLY UNDER SOMEBODY WHO WOULD HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DO MORE OF THAT COACHING AND, AND STAFF DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UH, THE OTHER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION IS WHAT JAMES IS CURRENTLY DOING.
IS THAT WHAT JAMES IS OUR IN TUNE RIGHT NOW? JAMES JAMES HAS THESE, UH, THESE COUPLE OF FUNCTIONARIES WITH DIRECT OVERSIGHT OVER ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS, PLANNING, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND TRADES.
AND THEN JERRY HAS DIRECT OVERSIGHT OVER, UH, PARKS AND REC LIBRARY, HR AND POLICE.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
SO THIS, YOU KNOW, AND I DID KIND OF OVERLAP BOXES INTENTIONALLY HERE BECAUSE, UH, ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER DOES NOT WORK WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD AND I DO FREQUENTLY.
SO DON'T THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNDER, YOU KNOW, IN THAT CIRCLE OF MINE, UH, I COMMUNICATE AND WORK WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M IN MEETINGS WITH THEM ALL THE TIME.
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THIS IS REALLY MORE, IT HAS TO DO WITH MORE OF A DIRECT MANAGEMENT SUPERVISION AND COACHING STAFF DEVELOPMENT THAN IT DOES, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GETTING THINGS DONE.SO I WILL STILL BE VERY INVOLVED WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT, UH, BUT JUST IN A DIFFERENT ROLE, IF YOU WILL, THE COMMUNICATIONS AND EVENTS, I'VE, I'VE STILL LEFT RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT WOULD STILL BE A DIRECT REPORT, LEGAL BY CHARTER AS A DIRECT REPORT, A CITY SECRETARY WOULD KIND OF BE A SHARED ROLE FROM A STAFF DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.
IT WOULD BE PART OF THIS NEW POSITION.
UH, AND THEN FROM AGAIN, JUST OVERSIGHT, ET CETERA, FROM, UH, WORKING WITH COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE WITHIN THAT CENTER CIRCLE WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL LIES AND THEN SAME WITH, UH, HR CIVIL SERVICE AT THOSE DUTIES, OR, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY BLEND MORE INTO THE CITY COUNCIL ROLE OR, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER ROLE AS NEEDED BRANDING.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I CAN.
THERE'S BRANDING BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT IS KIND OF SHARED BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HERE, AND THEN LOBBYING LEGISLATIVE IS, WOULD BE SQUARING IN MY ROLE AND AGAIN, BECAUSE COUNCIL IS VERY INVOLVED IN TOUCHES EVERYTHING ALSO THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SQUARE IN THAT, THAT CENTER ROLE, UH, TOUCHING EVERY FACET OF THE ORGANIZATION.
I'LL LET YOU THINK ABOUT IT FOR A BIT.
ALRIGHT, WELL, YOU CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT COUNCIL ITEM.
UH, I'LL JUST SAY THIS ABOUT IT.
I THINK, UH, I KNOW YOU'VE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS AND FIGURING OUT WHAT IS MISSION SPECIFIC AND WHAT REALLY HELPS ACHIEVE THE GOALS.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I I'VE MANAGED PEOPLE.
I KNOW MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE AS WELL.
UM, IT, IT CAN BE A CHALLENGE TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND HELP DEVELOP THOSE THAT REPORT TO YOU.
UH, BUT THAT IS PART OF WHAT YOU DO IN MANAGEMENT AND SUPERVISING OF PEOPLE.
THAT IS ALSO VERY MISSION SPECIFIC.
AND, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN UP TO YOUR STANDARDS AS WELL FOR THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS TO DO WITH WHAT TO YOU DONE.
SO FOR YOU TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY AND ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IN FRONT OF THEM TODAY, UM, I HOPE THAT THAT MEANS SOMETHING.
IT MEANS SOMETHING TO ME, I HOPE IT MEANS SOMETHING TO THEM.
UM, AND THIS IS AN IDEA TO TRY TO HELP SOLVE THAT AND, AND HELP THEIR PROFESSIONAL GROWTH AS WELL, UH, WHICH IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, UH, TO THE MORALE OF STAFF.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL INCLUDING COUNCIL BE ALWAYS COGNIZANT OF STAFF MORALE AND, AND HOW, AND, AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO THE MISSION AS WELL.
UH, WE TALK ABOUT PAY PARODY AND, AND OTHER DIFFERENT THINGS, GROWING DEPARTMENTS, GETTING MORE POSITIONS, GETTING MORE HELP TO PEOPLE THAT ARE GIVING THEIR ALL, AND WE HAVE AN AMAZING TEAM CALL THAT GIVES THEIR ALL IN EVERY DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE AWARE OF.
AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT.
UM, IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAT WE COULD USE IN, IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND STUFF, BUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S EVERY YEAR, EACH ONE OF US HAVE THREE, THREE BUDGETS THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF OVERSEE IN OUR TERM.
AND SOMETIMES IT IS, YOU KNOW, TACKLING ONE THING AND ONE BUDGET YEAR AND THEN GOING AFTER IT TO NEXT AND THE NEXT.
SO, UM, I'M CERTAINLY NOT BALKING AT THE IDEA IS IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, I GUESS, UH, SAME TIME.
WE KIND OF ALL WANT TO MULL IT OVER, BUT SURE.
I, I APPRECIATE IT BEING BOUGHT UP.
WHAT WAS THE, UH, UH, TOTAL PAY FOR THAT, UH, POSITION? UH, WE, WE HAVE 250 YOU PUT IN WITH, WITH ALL SALARY AND BENEFITS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT COSTS.
I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS HOW THE OTHER IS GOING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ON THEIR JOB DUTIES.
AND THEN IT'S GOING TO DO THE JOB OF RELIEVING IN THAT PENNY, ADDITIONALLY, SOMETIMES WHEN YOU MAKE MORE MONEY.
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SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T RUN INTO THAT ISSUE, UM, OR TO MAKE SURE THAT JAMES IS OKAY, LIKE I'M KIND OF INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT HE FEELS CAUSE HE KNOWS HE'S GOING TO BE ADDING A PARTNER TO WHAT HE DOES.AND THEN JUST MAKING SURE AT THE END OF THE DAY IS I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON.
AND THEN WE STILL HAVE MISCOMMUNICATION.
PEOPLE DON'T ARE NOT THE SAME PAGE SOMETIMES.
SO JUST MAKING A PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A, I KNOW WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE A MANAGER MEETING ONCE A WEEK, BUT, UM, SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE THOROUGH FOR MAYBE JERRY, UM, JAMES, YOU, AND THEN THE NEW PERSON, JUST TO BE SURE RURAL, UH, YOU GUYS ARE ALL APPRISED.
SO I ASK JANE OR ASK JERRY A QUESTION, THEY'LL KNOW THE ANSWER AND I WON'T HAVE TO GO TO YOU.
WELL, I'LL SAY THIS, UM, SEPTEMBER WILL BE MY 15TH ANNIVERSARY.
AND I WAS THE FIRST ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THE CITY EVER HIRED OR CREATED.
IT WAS A BRAND NEW POSITION WHEN I WALKED IN THE DOOR AND WE WERE ABOUT 10 YEARS TOO LATE TO ADD A SECOND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
SO, SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA IN THAT REGARD.
NOW I WILL SAY THIS, THE JOB DUTIES, AREN'T THAT TOO TERRIBLY DIFFERENT TO ME, BETWEEN ME A NEW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
AND LIKE MR. SELLER SAID THESE AREN'T, THESE AREN'T AREAS THAT JERRY AND I ARE CURRENTLY OVERSEEING THAT ARE BEING RETOOLED OR SENT AWAY.
IT'S THINGS THAT HE HAS BEEN OVERSEEING THAT HE JUST CAN'T.
SO IN THAT REGARD, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF LIKE OUR JOBS CHANGING TOO TERRIBLY MUCH, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND NEW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND WHAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF DOES EITHER, BUT THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE IN PAY.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THESE TYPES OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, I JUST WOULD, I WOULD ASK FOR EQUITY AMONGST EVERYBODY BECAUSE THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND EXPOSURES ARE BASICALLY ALL THE SAME.
SO, AND MOST OF THESE, OUR SIZE, I THINK YOU COULD, YOU COULD JUSTIFY THREE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS PRETTY EASILY PRIMARILY FOR WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE AS THE ORGANIZATION GROWS IN COMPLEXITY, YOU JUST NATURALLY FIND AREAS THAT KIND OF BECOME YOUR THING.
RIGHT? AND FOR ME, IT'S BEEN DEVELOPMENT.
AND SOME OF THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE I WAS HERE WHEN THE CITY WAS DEVELOPING AND IT'S THE SKILLS THAT I DEVELOPED.
IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BACKGROUND THAT I BROUGHT, GRANTED, YOU KNOW, BANKING, FINANCE, AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF I BROUGHT WITH ME.
SO IT KIND OF WORKS, BUT IN ANOTHER LIFE, MAYBE I WOULD HAVE ENDED UP OVER FINANCE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED THAT WAY, BUT IT JUST, IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT IT WORKED OUT.
SO I THINK THESE, WHENEVER I GO AND LOOK IN OUR PROFESSION, I USUALLY SEE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS OVER ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, OVER DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN OVER PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT'S USUALLY THE THREE THAT YOU SEE AND, AND YOU MAYBE YOU'LL THINK OF SOME MORE, BUT THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE THREE AREAS THAT YOU SEE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND THIS PRETTY CLOSELY.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? DOES THAT GO WHAT JAMES SAID AND JUST SAY, I'VE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF CITY MANAGERS OVER TWO CITIES.
I NEVER SEEN ANYBODY WORK AS HARD AS SCOTT.
SO, UM, AND I CAN SEE THE STRAIN ON THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE HE'S, HE'S OUT A LOT TOO IN THE WORK THAT HE DOES.
AND I THINK AN EXTRA HAND TO PROVIDE THAT DIRECT SUPERVISION FOR HIS DIRECT REPORTS UNDER HIS DIRECTION WOULD BENEFIT THE ORGANIZATION.
I'M LOOKING AT THE, UH, UH, WHAT THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WOULD BE OVERSEEING.
UM, AND THE ONE THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND I JUST KEEP THINKING ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS ASK FOR LIKE THE REST OF, I KNOW DIANA UNDER HER TEAM DO A GREAT JOB, BUT I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ALWAYS ASK FOR, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU THINK, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'VE MAYBE NOT BEEN ABLE TO BRING THOSE KINDS OF BUSINESSES HERE IS BECAUSE WE NEED SOMEONE, UH, HELPING GUIDE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW, YOU KNOW, I, TO BE TOTALLY HONEST, I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
UH, AND I THINK COSTCO THIS LAST WEEK WAS A GREAT EVIDENCE OF THAT.
THESE THINGS TAKE TIME FOR ONE AND THE MATURITY OF THE CITY, UH, IS THE SECOND ONE THAT THEY LOOK FOR.
THEY LOOK FOR A CERTAIN POPULATION BASE, CERTAIN INCOME BASE, CERTAIN TRADE AREA BASE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY LOOK AT OTHER RESTAURANTS THAT ARE EITHER THE, OR SIMILAR IN THEIR, IN THEIR PRIMARY TRADE AREA.
SO I THINK WE IN KYLE ARE, ARE GROWING INTO MATURITY WHEN IT COMES TO BEING RIPE FOR SOME OF THESE NICER UPSCALE RESTAURANTS.
SO FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT, I KNOW YOU'VE ASKED FOR A LOT OF FINE DINING, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.
UH, AND WE'VE HEARD THE SAME STORY A LOT IS, YOU KNOW, SAN MARCUS HAS THOSE SOUTH PARK.
MEADOWS HAS A GOOD TO HAVE THOSE.
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UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S YOUR POPULATION, WHAT'S YOUR AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME.UH, AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE LOOKS AND BETTER LOOKS FROM SOME OF THESE.
WE ALSO HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE MORE SOPHISTICATED NOW THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO ATTRACT AND, UH, LOCATE IN, IN BETTER SPOTS FOR THESE RESTAURANTS.
SO THERE'S, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE WORKS TODAY THAT WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE.
UH, I WILL SAY IN THE PAST WE HAVE, UH, ENGENDER THOSE RELATIONSHIPS FOSTER THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE RESTAURANT GROUPS.
UH, DIANA HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
I HAVE BEEN WITH HER AT SOME OF THE CONFERENCES WHERE WE'VE SAT DOWN WITH THESE OWNERSHIP GROUPS AND, UH, TALKED TO THEM ABOUT KYLE THEY'VE STARTED THEIR FOLDER FOR KYLE, RIGHT? AND THOSE FOLDERS SIZES ARE, ARE INCREASING AS, AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH COUNSEL HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND GO OVER THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE FOR SOME OF THESE, THESE UPSCALE RESTAURANTS.
AND THEN WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH THE, NOT ONLY THE RESTAURANT OWNERSHIP GROUP, BUT THE DEVELOPER TO TRY TO BRING THEM HERE.
UH, AND THEN THE FINAL THING I'LL SAY IS THAT THE COUNCIL BY BEING VERY PROACTIVE AND VISIONARY HAS CREATED THAT RESTAURANT INCENTIVE.
THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYWHERE ELSE, TO BE HONEST.
AND I, THAT IS GAINING TRACTION MOMENTUM, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE INDUSTRY THERE, THEY'RE HEARING THAT KYLE NOT ONLY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WANTING THESE RESTAURANTS, BUT WILLING TO INCENTIVIZE THEM WHEN, WHEN THEY MAKE SENSE AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE UPSCALE.
SO THAT'S, UH, THIS POSITION, THIS NEW ROLE, UH, WILL, WILL ONLY ADD TO THE STRENGTH OF OUR, OUR, UH, UH, ATTEMPT TO BRING THEM HERE.
UH, BUT IT, IT'S NOT FOR A, I CAN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY UP TO THIS POINT.
IT'S BECAUSE WE WE'VE BEEN DEFICIENT IN THAT AREA.
IT'S JUST, THE TIMING IS NOW HITTING.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA NEED ALL HANDS ON DECKS ON DECK AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I APPRECIATE THAT BREAKDOWN BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS, I THINK WHEN WE ARE ALL, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO US, THEY THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE CAN GO OUT AND GRAB RESTAURANTS AND SAY, WHERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING.
I KNOW FOLKS CAN'T SEE THIS PROBABLY, BUT THROUGHOUT YOUR ENTIRE EXPLANATION, DIANA IS AFFIRMATIVELY SHAKING HER HEAD.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES REALLY.
AND IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BRING IN FINE DINING AND SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS.
WE KNOW THAT WE HEAR THAT, UH, COMMUNITY, BUT IT IT'S.
THEY HAVE TO, ALL, THEY HAVE TO WANT TO COME HERE.
THEY HAVE BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE MARGINS AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT, UH, UM, THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO MEET IN ORDER TO COME HERE.
UH, AND SO I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT, THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INCENTIVES AS WELL, SO WE'VE, WE'VE PUT IT ALL OUT ON THE TABLE AND HOPEFULLY THAT STARTS TO BEAR SOME FRUIT HERE.
UH, BUT, UM, IT IS CERTAINLY NOT FROM A LACK OF GIVING EVERY BIT OF EFFORT.
AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT MY, MY ROLE WILL CONTINUE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE'RE JUST ADDING ADDITIONAL STAFF SUPPORT AND, AND SUPPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT.
UH, SO THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO, AGAIN, TO, TO ADD MORE STRENGTH THERE.
UH, THEY, THEY HAD A NEW POSITION THIS LAST YEAR.
THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF INTERNAL AS WELL.
I MEAN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST ATTRACTION, BUT IT'S, OR, OR RECRUITMENT, BUT IT'S RETENTION, RIGHT? SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON, UH, CURRENT BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT WE HAVE IN KYLE.
WE, WE SURE DON'T WANT THEM TO, TO LEAVE FOR ANOTHER COMMUNITY ALSO.
SO, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, UH, ABILITIES IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAVE JUST INCREASED AS MORE WITH ADDED STAFF.
WE'LL ADD THIS POSITION AGAIN.
I'M NOT GOING TO WALK AWAY FROM THAT.
I FEEL LIKE I'M, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF MY PASSIONS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, IT'S JUST MORE SUPPORT, WHICH IS ONLY GOING TO HELP KYLE.
SO MAYOR PRO TEM WAS NICE ENOUGH TO LET ME LOOK AT HIS SCREEN AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS PERSON THAT WE WOULD HIRE WOULD HAVE KIND OF A FOCUS IN THE DOWNTOWN, WHICH I, I REALLY LIKE, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE SLACKED FOR, AND IT'S JUST NOT LACKED, JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT.
IT'S A LOT EASIER TO GO, GO WORSE, AND THAT'S SUCH A STRUGGLE TO DEVELOP.
UM, AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I LIKED THE DOWNTOWN, THE ECONOMIC GROWTH.
SO NOW THAT I COULD SEE I, OKAY, GREAT.
I KNOW DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN A PRIORITY HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT HAS BEEN A HIGH PRIORITY.
UM, SO THIS REALLY JUST ALLOWS US TO FOCUS ON ALL AREAS OF THE CITY EQUALLY AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THE RISING TIDE FLOATS THE ENTIRE CITY OF KYLE.
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UM, SO I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS, QUESTIONS AND PROPOSALS, SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING THE FEEDBACK.I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF GO DOWN THE LINE HERE FROM THE, THE CHANGES HERE.
SO FORGIVE ME COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE MIC FOR A LITTLE WHILE, UH, THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE SENIOR CENTER.
UH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE FULL AS CAROL AND I ARE ON THAT TASK FORCE.
WE HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH THEM THIS PAST WEEK.
THEY WERE REALLY EXCITED TO GO FROM THAT, BUT I THINK THEY KIND OF FINALLY GOT AN IDEA OF WHAT IT TAKES TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE REALLY EVER GOTTEN TO THAT POINT.
THEY WERE LIKE, WHY NOW, WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GUYS WILLING TO DO NOW? THEY'RE LIKE, NO, WE ALWAYS KIND OF, AND I THINK THEY THEY'VE REALIZED THE CHALLENGE ON THAT AND, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND, UH, THE GENTLEMAN, UM, FORGIVE ME, STEVEN, UH, WHAT'S HIS NAME THAT DID THE DESIGNS.
SEE BUTLER THAT DID THE GREAT CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS BY THE WAY, COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THOSE DESIGNS, THEY'RE UPSTAIRS ON THAT TABLE, JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE THOSE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER, REALLY GREAT JOB.
THEY'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING AND HAGGLING WITHIN THEIR OWN GROUP ON WHAT THEY WANT IN THERE, WHICH WE TOLD THEM, UH, AT THAT MEETING, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SHOOT HIGH HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE AND THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MEET THAT EXPECTATION, AKA FUNDING.
SO, UH, WE TOLD THEM TO COME WITH EVERYTHING THEY'D LIKE, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY EVEN HAD SOME DISAGREEMENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED IN THERE, BUT WE TOLD THEM WE'RE LEANING HEAVILY ON THEM ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THERE.
AND SO THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO AND CONTINUE TO SHARPEN THE PENCIL ON THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK WE ALSO HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME, OR AT LEAST I'LL SAY THIS FOR ME, THAT STEVEN BUTLER COULD TAKE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
AND, UH, FROM ONE THING I'VE LEARNED HERE ON BEING ON THE COUNCIL NOW FOR FOUR YEARS, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT GOING OUT AND GETTING MONEY AND FUNDING PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LOBBYIST AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
A LOT OF TIME THAT MONEY COMES WHEN PROJECTS ARE SHOVEL-READY OR AS CLOSE TO SHOVEL-READY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, THEY DON'T HAPPEN AT THE VERY EARLY STAGES OF CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND BUILDING UP TO CONSTRUCTION DESIGN.
AND SO THAT IS A HUGE PART OF IT.
AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, AN HOUR LONG OF, UH, CITIZEN COMMENTS LAST TIME WE WERE HERE IN JUNE, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL GOT THE IDEA, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE END, ADDING THE CONTRIBUTION FOR TAKING THE CON CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS TO THE FULL CONSTRUCTION, DESIGNING WHAT THAT WOULD COST.
AND MR. BUTLER DID SAY THAT HE COULD DO THAT.
AND SO, UM, THAT WAS A HUGE PART OF IT.
AND WE TOLD, WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BREAKING IT DOWN INTO A THIRD, UH, OF SHARING THAT COST BETWEEN THE CITY, UH, THE SENIORS, AND THEN ANOTHER ENTITY I E THE COUNTY GRANTS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO, UH, AT FIRST THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BIG BAKE SALE TO GET THEIR 200,000 OR SO.
UM, BUT THEY HAD ONE GENTLEMAN, UH, A GROUP CALLED AGE.
UH, THEY KIND OF WAS HELPING THEM AS WELL AND TALKED ABOUT OTHER AVENUES THAT THEY CAN GO THROUGH HOSPITAL, UH, GRANTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO AS WELL TO TRY TO HELP, YOU KNOW, SECURE, UH, THEIR THIRD.
BUT I THINK THEY HAVE SOME OPTIONS THAT THEY CAN DO THAT.
AND I THINK THAT JUST KIND OF REJUVENATED THEM.
UH, I KNOW I'M LOOKING TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE TASK FORCE.
THAT WAS AT LEAST MY IMPRESSION FROM THAT.
AND SO IT WAS A GREAT MEETING.
THEY WERE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT.
THEY, I THINK THEY HAVE A CLEAR VISION OF WHAT THEY NEED TO DO AND WHAT THEY NEED TO ACCOMPLISH TO LIFT THEIR, UH, LEG OF THIS PROJECT.
AND, UM, I'M ALL FOR INCREASING THAT TO 200,000 TO, TO GET US MORE TOWARDS THAT.
UH, I KNOW, UH, MR. BUTLER, UH, GAVE SCOTT HIS, HIS NUMBER TO DO THAT, HOPEFULLY THAT INCLUDED THE CAST DISCOUNTED, BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT WAS JUST A VERY IMPACTFUL MEETING.
I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT AND MOVING THIS FORWARD, I SHARED THAT APPRECIATION THROUGH KAZ AND THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD.
UH, I'LL STOP THERE BEFORE I MOVE ONTO MY NEXT ITEMS. IF A COUNCIL MEMBER, FLOYD SCALER COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS HAD ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT ONE.
IT TO READ, CANCELED IT TO BE, THIS WAS A RECORD.
IT WAS A GOOD MEETING THAT WE HAD THE OTHER DAY.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND LIKE EMPHASIZING AGAIN, THE NEED FOR THIS COMMUNITY CENTER FOR OUR SENIORS THAT WAS REITERATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE DOLLARS OF WHERE WE COULD START OFF AND, UM, GIVING SOME
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DIRECTION AS FAR AS WHERE WE CAN GO TO GET IT THROUGH IS THROUGH SOME FEDERAL GRANTS, STATE GRANTS, AND ALSO, UH, WHO BUY WHAT WE CAN DO ON OUR END.THE SENIORS WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT, UH, IT TAKES A LOT MORE THAN JUST SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF PROCESSES AS COME TO PLAY.
SO I, I THINK WITH THIS, THIS COULD HELP JUMPSTART THE PLANNING PROCESS AND GET IT GOING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL ABOUT SHOVEL-READY.
AND SO IF WE CAN GET THIS GOING, UM, I DO THINK THAT THIS WOULD REALLY HELP AND THEN THEY CAN DO THEIR PART AND WE CAN GO AND ASK FOR OTHERS FROM THE OTHER AREAS, QUESTION ON THAT IS, SO IS THE GOAL 200,000 FROM THE CITY AND THEN, BUT NOT TO START THE DESIGN UNTIL WE RAISED THE REST OF IT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I'VE NEVER SEEN A MORE EAGER GROUP OF PEOPLE IN MY LIFE, AND I WISH EVERYBODY HAD THAT SAME ENERGY.
EVERYTHING WAS LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'S NEXT, WHAT'S NEXT, WHAT'S NEXT? AND SO, UM, I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO SEE IT AND THEY WERE SO GRATEFUL AND THEY WERE SO, UM, JUST A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE TO WORK WITH.
AND SO I'M EXCITED TO GET MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR US, THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP US ON OUR TOES AND THEY'RE GOING TO LIGHT THAT FIRE.
AND SO, UM, IF WE CAN GET RESIDENTS TO OUT HERE AND HELP US DO THAT IN THE SAME WAY TO DO OTHER THINGS.
AND, UH, I D I DID APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY DID GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT SO CUT AND DRY.
AND I WISH WE COULD SIT WITH THE RESIDENTS ON A ONE-ON-ONE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THE PROCESS OF ALL THE THINGS THAT REALLY HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES, BECAUSE JUST, YOU KNOW, A SHORT YEAR AGO, I WAS THAT, AND I SIT HERE AND I THINK, OH MAN, I WAS SO WRONG ABOUT SO MANY THINGS.
SO, SO ANYBODY OUT THERE WATCHING US, IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME.
AND THEN I, I DON'T MIND EXPLAINING, CAN WE GET A TIMESTAMP ON THAT COMMENT RIGHT THERE? UM, WELL, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY ABOUT ITEM NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO.
UM, SO I DID SEE THE ADDED OF THE SENIOR PLANNER POSITION FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR LOOPING ME IN ON THE CONVERSATION, UH, WITH STAFF, UH, EMAIL ON THE FTES.
AND ORIGINALLY IT WAS, UH, DISCUSSED FOR OUR PROCESS PLANNER FOR SHORT TERM AND HERE AND NOW ISSUES, I GUESS IT WAS CALLED AND THEN A LONG-TERM RANGE PLANNER, UH, AS WELL.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GET HOWARD'S FEEDBACK, UM, SINCE THAT DEALS WITH HIS DEPARTMENT.
AND HE WOULD OVERSEE THAT, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU FEEL WOULD BE AN EFFICIENT WAY OF ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED WITH A SENIOR PLANNER POSITION? TALK TO ME ABOUT THE BENEFITS PROS, CONS OF, OF DOING IT THIS WAY, AS A, AS OPPOSED TO THE BREAKING DOWN TO THE TWO.
WELL, WE STILL HAVE EXISTING STAFF, SO, UM, WE CAN JUST LOOK AT THEIR, THEIR STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES AND, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IN NEW PEOPLE AND JUST REARRANGE THE WORKLOAD.
SO IT'S, IT'S MORE ABOUT BODIES AT THIS POINT, ASSIGNMENT OF THE WORKLOAD CAN COME LATER, BUT I MEAN, I JUST, I JUST, WE'RE, WE'RE SHORT ON MEAT WHERE, YOU KNOW, NOT HARDWARE, NOT SOFTWARE WE'RE SHORT ON THE, ON THE PRACTITIONERS.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY ANY, ANY HELP IS GOING TO HELP.
UM, I APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, UH, WANTING TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
AND I HOPE STAFF KIND OF SEES THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE ARE DEALING, PARTICULARLY WITH THESE POSITIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK.
AND I WAS REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT, UH, JAMES AND JERRY HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE LAST POSITION AND GETTING THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN HOWARD YOURS ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
SO, UH, I WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT LAST TIME WE TALKED AND, AND CERTAINLY I SEE THE BENEFIT AS WELL FOR OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING, UH, IN OTHER AREAS.
AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE.
UM, SAME THING WITH THE PARKS POSITION.
UM, MARIANNA, I KNOW LAST TIME COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO BROUGHT UP, UH, TRANSITIONING THAT TO A TRAILS MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR.
COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND, UH, AS I SOMETIMES CALL IT THE KITCHEN SINK, UM, MEETING, WHICH IS, IS GOOD.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT I CALL IT THAT BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY EVERYTHING THAT WE BRING OUR STAFF BRINGS FORWARD IN THAT FIRST MEETING IS, UH, CAN BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR CITY, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A PIE AND IT IT'S THE SIZE THAT IT IS, AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT.
BUT, UH, TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW TRANSITIONING INTO THIS ROLE COULD BE AN EFFICIENT, GOOD OR BAD IN YOUR, IN YOUR POSITION, KIND OF THE SAME RIGHT
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NOW RECEIVED BODIES WHILE I DID INITIALLY REQUEST FOR A TRAILS LEAD AND A PART MAINTENANCE LEAD, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED IN BOTH SIDES AND THE WORKLOAD IS VERY HEAVY, A PARK MAINTENANCE AND TRAILS LEAD ALL IN ONE IS BETTER THAN NOT HAVING A LEAD AT ALL.UM, AND SO, YEAH, DEFINITELY HAPPY WITH ANYTHING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET.
I LIKE HOWARD SAID SOMETIMES JUST MOVING THOSE, UH, THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES AROUND, BUT DEFINITELY NEED THE POSITIONS IN THE BODY.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM, SO I, IF WE DO AN INCREASE OF PAY FOR SOMEONE FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, 12,000, IT DOESN'T REALLY CREATE A BODY, DOES IT AT ALL FOR EITHER ONE, IT JUST, DOES IT CREATE EXTRA DUTIES FOR SOMEBODY? CAUSE I GUESS, AND I WANT IT LIKE THIS.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD, BUT I ALSO THINK WE'RE NOT REALLY ADDING ANYBODY.
WE'RE ADDING MORE RESPONSIBILITIES, WE'RE CHANGING THE TITLE AND RESPONSIBILITY OF A NEW POSITION.
SO IT IS SO WE ARE ALREADY OKAY, PERFECT.
SO THAT $12,000 ADDITION IS FOR THE INCREASE IN SALARY AND FRINGE BENEFITS FOR THE NEW POSITION.
BEFORE IT WAS, WASN'T A SUPERVISOR, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO FILL THAT POSITION THAT THAT PERSON MOVES UP.
CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING? OKAY.
WE'RE SIDEWAYS OR HIGHER END, BUT YEAH.
AND THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE IS BECAUSE WE'RE GIVING THEM MORE DUTY, SAID ORIGINALLY IT WAS PROPOSED JUST FOR A PART SLEEP, BUT NOW HE'S GOING TO BE A PARKS AND TRAILS LEAD.
SO HE'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE DUTIES OR SHE, OR SHE YEAH, SORRY.
UM, MOVING ON DOWN HERE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE OUTDOOR FITNESS COURT, UH, OR SLUDGE.
SO COULD YOU, UH, CERTAINLY, AND CERTAINLY I'VE SLEPT TOO AND, UH, REMIND ME OF THE CATALYST CONSULTING CONTRACT AND BRINGING THAT BACK.
AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE NEWER COLLEAGUES AS WELL THAT WEREN'T ON HERE FROM THE FIRST TIME IT WAS HERE.
COULD YOU, UH, YOU OR DIANE OR SOMEONE GIVE US A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THAT DID BEFORE AND HOW IT CAN BE BENEFICIAL, BRINGING THAT BACK NOW BETTER.
GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, SO IN REGARDS TO THE CATALYST COMMERCIAL, UM, CONTRACT, THAT IS A CONTRACT THAT WE WORKED WITH, UM, AS AN OUTSOURCING, UH, SO THAT WE COULD FOCUS ON SPECIFIC RETAIL RECRUITMENT.
UM, WE WORKED WITH THEM FOR PROBABLY NINE OR 10 YEARS, UM, BEFORE WE PULLED THAT BACK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY RETAIL SPACE THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO BE LEASED.
SO IT WAS KIND OF PAYING IT, GOING TO BE PAYING A CONSULTANT TO RECRUIT AND GET AN ANSWER FROM THE RETAILERS, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO? SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THE SPACE ON THE GROUND, UM, AND HAVE HAD THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE NEW, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE JOINING US IN KYLE'S IN REGARDS TO BUSINESSES, UH, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD TIME AND ALSO KIND OF TO THE COMMENTS OF COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO EARLIER.
UM, THEY HELP US FOCUS ON THAT IN REGARDS TO THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME, TO ME IS, UM, BEING ABLE TO, UH, SCHEDULE MEETINGS FOR US, UH, CAUSE THAT WAS VERY TIME CONSUMING.
UM, AND THEN TO KEEP THAT FOLLOW-UP GOING AND KEEP US INCLUDED THE ENTIRE TIME.
SO WE GET PULLED IN, UM, YEAR ROUND WITH THEM IN MEETINGS.
WE MAKE VERY SPECIAL REQUESTS OF THEM.
UM, THEY DO FOR THIS, UH, PROJECT THAT JUST ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK, THEY DID VERY SPECIALIZED DATA RESEARCH, UM, THAT THEY KNOW THAT THAT COMPANY, EXCUSE ME, LOOKS AT BECAUSE THEY ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, WORK WITH A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES IN SITE SELECTION.
SO THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THAT, ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT SCOTT OR, OH, REAL QUICK.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD CAPITALISTS COMMERCIAL ON CONTRACT TWO YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE TWO YEARS AGO.
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AND SO THAT WOULD BE THAT $20,000 WOULD BE A CONTRACT FOR ONE YEAR.SO THAT WOULD BE IF WE WERE EXPECTING TO CONTINUE THAT THAT'D BE, YEAH.
SO WE HAD FIVE IN THE BUDGET JUST FOR CONSULTING.
SO WE'RE ADDING THE 24, 20 $5,000 CONTRACT WITH CATALYST AND, UH, YEAH, OUR ANTICIPATION IS THAT WE, WE BRING THIS AGAIN YEAR OVER YEAR, UH, AS THEY'RE ADDING VALUE AND BRINGING THESE RETAILERS TO THESE POWER CENTERS, UH, WE, WE HAVE NOW THREE, I WOULD SAY LARGE POWER CENTERS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT WE CAN LOCATE RETAILERS INTO WHO ARE, UH, NOT JUST BIG BOX RETAILERS, BUT GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT RESTAURANTS, CANDLES, COMMERCIAL HAS A GREAT, GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF THESE FINE DINING ESTABLISHMENTS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE, UM, HOW COULD THIS BENEFIT? SO THE ONLY, UM, I THINK WHEN WE HAD THE COSTCO ADDED EARLIER THIS WEEK, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST UNIVERSALLY I'VE SEEN PEOPLE EXCITED ON A SOCIAL MEDIA POST TO BUYERS PROBABLY EVER.
THERE WERE A HANDFUL OF COMMENTS THOUGH, AND I THINK THEY'RE, UH, THEY THINK THEY'RE A FAIR, LEGITIMATE COMMENTS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE SMALLER BUSINESSES AND WHAT THIS CITY DOES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO SEE THE LARGE RETAILER LIKE COSTCO COME IN AND THEY, UH, RIGHTFULLY SO, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THAT SMALL BUSINESS OR, YOU KNOW, OR HAVE FAMILY OR SUPPORTIVE OF SMALL BUSINESS SHOPPING AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS CITY DOES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, MAYBE HOW THIS CONTRACT MAY EVEN BE ABLE TO HELP BENEFIT THAT AND SOMETHING THAT WE ARE AWARE OF AND KEEP? SURE.
SO, UM, OVER THE PAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, UM, WE HAVE HAD A BIG FOCUS MAYBE EVEN LONGER NOW ON THE FIRST YEAR ON THIS PROGRAM, UM, WHICH IS THE REIMBURSEMENT OF TAXES FOR, UM, COMMERCIAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY CREATED SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, UM, FOR A, AN INCENTIVE TYPE PROGRAM FOR ANY SIZED BUSINESS IN KYLE.
UM, SO ANYBODY OF ANY SIZE THAT'S DOING ANY KIND OF PERMANENT IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR PROPERTY, UM, QUALIFIES FOR THAT? UH, WE ALSO DID, UM, PUT $150,000 IN THE, UM, COVID, UM, PROGRAM FOR SMALL BUSINESS RELIEF.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING PEOPLE TO EVEN APPLY FOR IT.
SO THAT WAS A LITTLE DISHEARTENING.
UM, AND SO WHEN WE HEAR THESE OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT YOU DO FOR SMALL BUSINESS, IT, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES A DIFFICULT, UM, KIND OF LINE TO WALK, BUT, UM, WE KNOW THAT SMALL BUSINESS AND MOM AND POPS ARE THE HEART OF COMMUNITIES.
AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, DO A LOT OF HAND-HOLDING.
UH, WE DO A LOT OF, UM, KIND OF MEDIATING IN THE, THE REALM OF GETTING BUSINESS PLANS, UM, DONE.
UM, NOW THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE SPECIFICALLY THAT'S HELPING WITH BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION, THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THEM AS WELL, IF IT'S AN EXISTING, UM, LIKE MOM AND POP OR SMALL BUSINESS.
AND, UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSING MORE ON, UH, ADDING PROGRAMMING FOR THEM, LIKE TRAINING AND ACTUALLY PARTNERING WITH THE LIBRARY ON SOME OF THE, UM, THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAD STARTED.
CAUSE WE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE WERE BOTH KIND OF, UM, GOING TOWARDS THE SAME, UM, GOAL THERE WITHOUT REALIZING IT.
SO W WE'RE PARTNERING UP ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE ON A DAILY, UH, ASPECT, ANYBODY CAN CALL US WITH ANY OF THEIR NEEDS OR QUESTIONS.
AND, UH, UM, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY BEEN SURPRISING, UM, LIKE SINCE COVID AND PEOPLE HAVE HAD, HAD TO PUT PACKAGES LIKE FINANCIAL PACKAGES TOGETHER, UM, TO HAVE THE REALIZATION, UM, THAT MOST, OR A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES DON'T EVEN REALIZE WHAT THEY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE BACKEND SIDE THAT THEY SHOULD BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH AND KNOW LIKE THE BACK OF THEIR HAND, THEY ARE NOT.
SO WE'RE KIND OF STARTING THERE, UM, TO HELP THEM GET A GOOD BASE UNDERNEATH THEM.
SO I HEARD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE INCENTIVE OPPORTUNITIES.
THEIR FIRST YEAR ON US, I'VE HEARD, UH, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND BEING ALWAYS AVAILABLE, UH, TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE ALL THE TIMES CORPORATIONS HAVE THOSE IN-HOUSE, THIS IS SOMETHING MAYBE A SMALL BUSINESS DOESN'T HAVE AN, A RESOURCE THAT IS FREE ESSENTIALLY TO, UH, OUR SMALL BUSINESSES TO UTILIZE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FOR BUSINESS PLANS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT WAS STATED DURING THE, THE CHAMBER LUNCHEON, UH, JUST
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BEFORE THE JUST STAYED AT CITY ADDRESS WAS, UH, HP APIS, UH, BUILDING AS WELL ON THE NEW BUILDING STARTED DOING, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT DOING A SMALL SQUARE, SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, TO KIND OF MEET THE NEEDS OF SOME OF SOME OF THOSE SMALLER BUSINESSES AS WELL.DO YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT? SURE.
SO, UM, OVER THE PAST DECADE, WE WERE REALLY RECRUITING FOR, UM, BIG INDUSTRIAL SPEC, CAUSE THAT WAS A MAJOR GAP IN BETWEEN AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO THAT WAS GLARING TO EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY WAS CHASING IT.
SO NOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN FILLING THAT GAP, THE NEXT IS, UM, REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THE TRENDS ARE THAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND ONE OF THOSE HAS BEEN, UM, FOR SOME SMALLER INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING TYPE SPACE, WHICH WE HAVE SEVERAL MOM AND POPS THAT WERE LOOKING FOR THAT SPACE.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE GROUND BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH NEW BUILDING KYLE.
UM, AND THEN THESE LARGE PROJECTS THAT WERE COMING IN WERE NOT WILLING TO, UM, SUBDIVIDE AS SMALL AS THESE MOM AND POPS OR, OR KIND OF STARTUPS, UM, WOULD REALLY NEED OR REQUIRE RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT BECAME KIND OF A GLARING GAP WAS THE IN-BETWEEN.
AND SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THAT NOW, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT.
UM, WE DID HAVE ONE SMALL PROJECT ON THE EAST SIDE THAT DID A FEW 10,000 SQUARE FOOT HOURS, UM, THAT FILLED UP IMMEDIATELY, BUT ONCE THOSE WERE FILLED AND, UM, DID NOT REALLY MEET THE LOGISTICAL NEEDS OF SOME OF, UM, THESE GROWING COMPANIES, WE REALLY NEEDED ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT KIND OF SIZE FACILITY, BUT IN A REALLY GOOD, UM, LOGISTICAL POSITION, UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, INGRESS AND EGRESS AND TRUCKS AND BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
THE HPI IS DECIDING TO BE ABLE TO SUBDIVIDE.
SO ALSO BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU'RE A SMALL BUSINESS OUT THERE, REACH OUT, LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP IN THAT WAY.
UH, I'M ALMOST DONE COUNSELOR.
UH, SO THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
THE CHANGES ON THE SLIDE HERE, I HAD ONE OTHER, UH, ITEM OF A NEW PROPOSAL FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
UM, SO AS WE, AS WE KNOW, UH, WE HAD PROP F PASS, UH, LAST NOVEMBER WITH THE, UM, UM, POLICE, UH, OVERSIGHT COMMUNICATION, UM, COLLABORATION, UM, PROPOSITION CHANGE TO OUR CHARTER THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED LAST NOVEMBER, UH, OVERWHELMINGLY.
AND THEN, UH, IT DICTATED THAT AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE, UH, NEED TO BE CREATED TO IRON OUT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT VERY BROAD LANGUAGE.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT, UH, EVER SINCE THEN, IN SOME WAYS, UH, UH, EVER SINCE THAT VOTE PASSED AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED A TASK FORCE TO, UH, REALLY GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THIS AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE WRITE ONE SINGLE WORD OF THAT ORDINANCE, WHICH IS A VASTLY DIFFERENT WAY OF APPROACHING, UH, WRITING AN ORDINANCE TYPICALLY THAT IS NOT HOW I KNOW ORDINANCE HAS CREATED.
UM, BUT I'M, I'M APPRECIATIVE THAT COUNCIL BEING SUPPORTIVE OF IT, DOING THIS WAY IN GATHERING INPUT, FROM WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ON THE TASK FORCE, THE THREE PRONGS, UM, OUR CITIZENRY, OUR CITY ADMINISTRATION, AND INCLUDES COUNCIL, AND THEN OUR POLICE FORCE, WE NEED ALL THREE OF THOSE PRONGS COMING TOGETHER, GIVING INPUT AND FEEDBACK AS WE CREATE THIS ORDINANCE, SOMETHING THAT'S ALSO UNIQUE ABOUT THE CREATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
AND SO, UM, I'VE, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO AND COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE S ON TASK FORCE.
UH, LAST, I GUESS IT WAS EARLY THIS MONTH.
UH, IT WAS THE DAY BEFORE WE HAD THE VERY DAY GROUNDBREAKING.
WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING AS A TASK FORCE.
SECOND TIME I'VE GONE TO MEET WITH CLIA AND KIND OF GO OVER WHERE WE WERE AT GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK.
AND IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH, ROBUST DISCUSSION.
WE TOOK UP QUITE A BIT OF THEIR TIME, BUT I WANT TO SAY IT WAS ALL EVERY SECOND OF IT WAS MEANINGFUL AND IMPACTFUL AND A LOT FOR US TO TAKE, TO TAKE BACK AND CONSIDER AS A TASK FORCE AND THEN ULTIMATELY BRING TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION ON THEIR THOUGHTS ON VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND SO I WANT TO THANK, UH, THOSE MEMBERS OF THAT ASSOCIATION FOR THAT FEEDBACK, UH, AS WELL AND THEIR INPUT AND WILLINGNESS TO SPEAK UP.
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THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT OR DISCUSS, UH, TO ELECTED LEADERS, BUT WE'RE TAKING THE APPROACH OF HAVING A VERY OPEN MINDED AND FEEDBACK ORIENTED APPROACH TO THIS.AND SO I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO AND COUNCIL MEMBER, AND TO BE AS, UH, BEING A PART OF THAT.
SO, UH, WE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PIECES OF FEEDBACK.
WE WENT OVER HOW THE CITY HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET.
UH I'VE I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE PRIVATELY, AND I'LL SAY IT PUBLICLY AS WELL.
I LOVE THE SLIDES THAT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT PUTS TOGETHER AND, UH, REALLY SHOWS HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
AND IF YOU LOOK BACK AT OUR POLICE SLIDES, YOU WILL SEE THE INCREASE OF OUR BUDGET AT ABOUT $1.2 MILLION A CLIP.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I'M LOOKING AT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY EACH YEAR IN THAT INCREASE.
UH, SO OUR COMMITMENT TO THAT, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT YEAR OVER YEAR, OBVIOUSLY PUTTING THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER ON THE BALLOT IN A PANDEMIC YEAR THAT HAS BEEN WORKED ON FOR TWO YEARS.
WE STARTED ON THAT PROCESS IN, UM, IN, WELL, REALLY THE EARLY DISCUSSIONS WITH THOSE THAT ARE STILL ON COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2018.
AND MOVING THAT FORWARD IN DECEMBER, 2019, NARROWING IT DOWN FROM ABOUT EIGHT DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO EVENTUALLY COMING TO A NEW SITE, GOING THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS, UNAWARE THAT A PANDEMIC WOULD HIT US, UH, PREPARING EVERYTHING TO BE ON SLATE FOR THE 2020 ELECTION, WHICH WE KNEW THAT WE'D HAD THE HIGHEST VOTER TURNOUT IN THE CITY'S HISTORY BEING A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
AND IF WE WERE GOING TO PROPOSE A BOND TAX INCREASE TO OUR VOTERS, WE WANTED TO HAVE AS MUCH SAY ON THAT.
AND SO ALL OF THAT HAS HAPPENED AND INCLUDING OUR VOTERS PASSING, UH, WILLING TO OPEN OR PASSING THIS PROP F THEY WERE ALSO SAYING IN THAT SAME ELECTION THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO OPEN THEIR POCKET BOOKS AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR POLICE.
UH, SO THAT'S A UNIQUE COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN AND WE WORKED FOR, UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING AND REALLY TELLING, BUT, UM, GOING BACK TO THE TASK FORCE AND THAT, THAT CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH CLEAR EARLIER THIS MONTH AND GETTING SOME FEEDBACK, AND WE SHOWED THEM SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE, THAT WERE PROPOSED IN THIS BUDGET, UH, THE STRATEGIC ANALYST POSITION, BECAUSE WE ARE ASKING FOR A LOT OF INFORMATION AND DATA, UH, BASED ON THE CHANGE IN THE CHARTER AS WELL WITH THE ORDINANCE WOULD ASK FOR.
AND SO HAVING A POSITION THAT WOULD BE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLECTING THAT AND DOING THAT, AND THEN THAT WOULD NOT FALL ON OUR LIEUTENANTS AND OTHER, UH, SUPERVISORS, OR EVEN OUR OFFICERS TO COMPILE THAT DATA AND GET THAT, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC AND CITY ADMINISTRATION TO SEE, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UH, POSITION I BELIEVE IS A SERGEANT POSITION THAT WE'VE, WE'VE ADDED AS WELL TO CONTINUE FOR WITH THAT EFFORT OF COMMUNITY POLICING AND COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, UM, THROUGH, THROUGH OUR, UH, POLICE FORCE AND HOW WE WOULD APPROACH THAT.
AND SO THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THESE THINGS.
AND I WANT TO JUST MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AS WELL AS, UH, ALL THE OTHER ADDITIONS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS GIVEN US FEEDBACK IN THAT, AND I, IT REALLY HIT HOME FOR ME.
AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION AS A TASK FORCE ABOUT THIS WAS WITH ALL THE EFFORTS AND THEY AGREE WITH WANTING TO BE MORE COMMUNITY POLICING, ORIENTED, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ORIENTED, UH, THAT THEY STILL NEED THEIR, HEY, HAVE TWO SHIFTS.
AND THEY ARE STILL IN NEED OF PATROL OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND DO THOSE THINGS, BUT WE WANT TO DO THAT.
UH, AND SO GETTING THAT SUPPORT AND BOLSTERING, UH, THE FORCE, UH, HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY SAID WOULD BE EVEN HELPFUL, MORE HELPFUL TO THAT MISSION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND SO, UH, WE HAD A CONVERSATION AS A TASK FORCE DEBRIEFING FROM THAT, AND THE TASK FORCE DID, UM, COME UP WITH THE IDEA TO ADD, UH, TWO PATROL OFFICERS, UH, TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, FOR THE REASONS THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE AND HELPING SUPPORT THAT, UH, THE EFFORTS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY POLICING.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DID ASK PER BEZ FOR COST ESTIMATES ON A PATROL OFFICER PLUS SUPPORTING COSTS, A PATROL OFFICER PAYROLL COSTS, UH, PLUS BENEFITS WOULD BE $80,095.
SO THAT'S THAT'S FOR ONE UNIFORM AND SUPPLIES WOULD BE $5,500.
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UM, IF WE WERE TO ADD A VEHICLE AS WELL, UM, FOR THE, PROBABLY EVEN SHARING THAT BETWEEN THE TWO, IT'D BE 16,000 8 48, WHERE THE, UH, COST ESTIMATES WE RECEIVED FROM FINANCE FOR THAT.SO YOU CAN DO QUICK BACK OF THE MAP, NAPKIN MATH THERE, ESSENTIALLY FOR THE 85,600 FOR THE PAYROLL AND UNIFORM COSTS TIMES TWO FOR TWO OFFICERS, AND THEN ADDING THE, JUST UNDER 17,000 FOR THE PATROL, UH, PURSUIT VEHICLE FOR THAT POSITION.
UM, AND BEFORE, I GUESS, BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE SECOND PART OF THAT, UH, I KNOW I'VE BEEN HOGGING THE MIC AND I D I DEFINITELY KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO AND CUSTOMER TO BE AS MIGHT HAVE SOME ADDITIONS.
THEY WANT TO ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY WE FELT LIKE THESE TWO POSITIONS WERE, UH, NECESSARY TO DISCUSSION SCALES OVER YEARS, UH, WORKING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT MYSELF.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE, THE OFFICERS, THE BOOTS ON THE STREET.
UM, JUST HEARING, GOING TO THE MEETING WITH THE, UH, CLIA IN HEARING THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, BEING SHORT STAFF, HAVING THAT EXTRA ADDITIONAL OFFICER, I REALLY FEEL THAT WE GOT TO HAVE THAT, UM, THAT EXTRA PERSON DUE TO THE FACT THAT WHENEVER SOMEBODY IS OUT OR SOMEBODY IS OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE, YOU HAVE THOSE OFFICERS THAT ARE PATROLLING.
AND IF THERE IS EVER AN ASSISTANCE CALL THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO REACH OUT TO ANOTHER AGENCY BECAUSE OF THEIR SHORT STAFF.
AND I WOULD REALLY HATE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN TO WHERE WE, WE HAVE, UM, A SITUATION TO WHERE OFFICERS ARE SHORT-STAFFED ON THE EVENING OR DURING THE DAY.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL AS I WOULD SAY, A SEARCH INDEX OR SEARCHING EX OFFICER AVAILABLE TO RELIEVE THEM FOR WHATEVER IT IS.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT BACKUP AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
AND I FEEL THAT ADDING A D ADDITIONAL TWO POSITIONS YOU COULD POSSIBLY, UH, AGAIN, IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WE COULD, UH, HAVE ONE FOR THE APP FOR THE DAY SHIFT AND ONE FOR THE EVENING, OR HOWEVER WE WOULD WORK IT OUT.
BUT I JUST STRONGLY FEEL THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE GOING TO REALLY BACK OUR BLUE, WE GOT TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE PRIORITY IS IN GETTING AN ADDITIONAL OFFICERS ON THE STREET THAT THAT SHOULD BE THE TOP PRIORITY.
AND THAT'S THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT FOR A SAFETY AND SECURITY STANDPOINT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.
I THINK THE, UM, I THINK THE, THIS YEAR WE HAD A COUPLE OF NEEDS WE NEEDED TO FILL, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS THROUGHOUT THE, I KNEW A PATROL WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST NEEDS WE NEEDED TO FILL.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, WE HAD A MONKEY RATE'S THROWN INTO THAT.
UH, ONE HAPPENED WHEN THE, JUST WHEN THE, UH, THE TASK FORCE FOR THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT DISSOLVE THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNTY, UH, CITY OF KYLE AND SAN MARCUS DISSOLVED.
WE, UH, HAD TO FILL THAT VOID AND WE DID IT WITH, UH, ADDING AN OFFICER DRUG, UH, INTERVENTION OFFICER WITH THAT.
AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED, UH, UH, UM, MANAGEMENT POSITION WOULD PROP UP PAST AS WELL.
SO I THINK THAT KINDA, UH, TIED OUR HANDS A LITTLE BIT AND WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH, UH, PATROL, BUT I I'D LIKE TO SEE AN OVERLAPPING, UH, PATROL.
UM, THE TWO OFFICERS COULD GIVE US THAT AND THOSE KEY AREA, KEY HOURS OF THE EVENING WHEN, UH, WE'RE HAVING MORE ISSUES WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST TIME TO, FOR THOSE TWO OFFICERS TO COME IN TO HELP.
UH, AND ALSO, UH, I, I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE FALLING FURTHER BEHIND IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO FILL THESE TWO POSITIONS, IF WE DID ACTUALLY REACH OUT AND TRY TO, UH, CREATE THESE TWO POSITIONS THAT WORKED SO LIKING IN, UH, THE REASON IS WE CONTINUE TO GROW AS A CITY.
AND WE'RE, I, I JUST WANT US TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH, BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UH, WE MIGHT BE BEHIND.
AND, UH, IF WE CONTINUE TO, UH, AS I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY, PUSHES CAN DOWN THE ROAD, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GONNA TO FALL FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND.
AND, UM, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS.
AND I THINK THESE ARE TWO POSITIONS WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER
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YES, UH, ABSOLUTELY.I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS MADE THERE.
AND CERTAINLY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RESOS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS HIS, UH, BACKGROUND IN LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE INVALUABLE TO THIS TASK FORCE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND WE REALLY, WE'RE NOT JUST HAVING THESE MEETINGS JUST TO SAY, WE'RE HAVING THESE MEETINGS.
WE, WE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE FROM THIS AND TRYING TO ADD TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE WE'VE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AND, UH, IT'S BEEN SAID A LOT OF TIMES BEFORE THAT IT SEEMS A LOT OF REACTIVE WHAT OUR POLICE FORCE IS DOING INSTEAD OF BEING PROACTIVE AND ADDING, UH, ENFORCEMENT AND OFFICERS TO OUR AGENCY CAN HELP US BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE PATROL.
I KNOW I'VE HAD, UH, EMAILS, PROBABLY SOME OF YOU ALL HAD AS WELL ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT SUBJECT IN ITSELF.
I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THE FIREWORKS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, I, I HEARD FROM A LOT OF FOLKS OVER IN MY AREA, IN AMBERWOOD ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO THIS, THIS CAN HELP US GET THERE.
I KNOW LAST TIME WE HEARD ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY NEEDING TO DO IT IN FOURS, BUT SOMETIMES WE CAN, WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN.
AND WE, WE AIM FOR AN ANOTHER BUDGET YEAR, AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A PRUDENT WOULD STEP FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, AND ONE THING THAT I I'LL SAY THIS, AND I'LL, I'LL, UH, FINISH UP MY, MY POINTS OF WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KEEP THE BAR, THE BAR HIGH, AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY LOVE ABOUT OUR HIRING PRACTICES WITH ACROSS THE CITY, REALLY, BUT SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT OUR PD, WE JUST ADDED A STAR OF HIS CLASS CANDIDATE THIS PAST WEEK.
MR. KYLE, I FORGET HIS LAST NAME CROUCH, BUT HE HAS THE GREAT FIRST NAME
YOU KNOW, WE DO TRAINING ALL THE TIME.
I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER OF BRADSHAW, AND WE APPROACHED HIM.
AND, UH, I THINK ONE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WAS AT OUR LAST, UM, FITNESS TRAINING AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS PAN OUT TO GETTING THE NUMBERS AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE KEEP THE BAR HIGH AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST IN THIS AGENCY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ADDED THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS TO HELP WITH RECRUITMENT AS WELL.
NOT JUST TO THAT AGENCY, YOU KNOW, HAS LONG NEEDED THAT, BUT IT CAN HELP WITH RECRUITMENT AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF HAMMER DOWN THOSE POINTS REALLY QUICK ON THAT.
AND SO, UH, AND, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT WE KEEP THAT BAR HIGH AND CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST IN EACH CLASS.
UH, SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S ABOUT $188,000 THAT, UH, WE'D NEED FOR TWO OFFICERS PLUS SUPPORT COSTS, SUPPLIES, UNIFORMS, AND ALL THAT.
PLUS ONE VEHICLE ESSENTIALLY PROBABLY COULD WORK FOR ADDING THOSE TWO OFFICERS.
SO THAT'S WHERE I GET THE $188,038 FROM.
SO, UH, THE INITIAL PROPOSAL THAT THE TASK FORCE CAME UP WITH WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT, UH, THE LOBBYIST POSITIONS AND HOW THAT CAN HELP US FIND GRANTS AND OTHER DIFFERENT POSITIONS, UH, OR OTHER DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
AND I THINK, UH, THE, THE TASK FORCE THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON FINDING THOSE LOBBYISTS HAS DONE A GOOD JOB, UH, WITH THE FINDING A TOP FEDERAL LOBBYIST CANDIDATE, UH, THAT EVEN HAD, UH, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THEIR MATERIALS, THEY HAD A, WHAT WAS IT, FORMER REPRESENTATIVE LAMAR SMITH, UH, WHO IS FROM TEXAS AND KIND OF ADDS ANOTHER ADDITION TO NOT ONLY JUST FEDERAL CONNECTIONS, BUT STATE CONNECTIONS AS WELL.
AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE CAN EACH BUDGET YEAR.
AND I, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WAS AN AGREEMENT ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE TWO LOBBYIST POSITIONS LOOKING AT A FEDERAL AND STATE ONE.
BUT I THINK, UH, FROM THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD AS A TASK FORCE, IT MIGHT BE PRUDENT THAT WE COULD TACKLE ONE OF THOSE LOBBYISTS THIS YEAR, AND THEN MAYBE LOOK AT NEXT YEAR FOR THE SECOND LOBBYISTS.
SO WE PROPOSED, UH, WHATEVER FUNDS THAT WEREN'T USED TO.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS HAVE GONE TOWARDS THE FEDERAL LOBBYISTS INSTEAD OF DOING A STATE LOBBYIST THIS YEAR, WE TAKE THOSE COST SAVINGS FROM THERE, UH, TO ADD TOWARD THIS POSITION, BALLPARKING IT, HAVING TALKED WITH SCOTT, UH, PREVIOUS ABOUT THIS.
UM, IT, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT ONE 60, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FOR THE FEDERAL LOBBYIST, THAT WE WERE KIND OF LOOKING AT 1 72, 1 72.
SO ONE 28,000 WOULD GO TOWARDS CUTTING INTO THAT 180 8.
SO THAT'D BE ABOUT 60,000 LEFTOVER THAT WE'D HAVE TO FIND A ADDITIONAL
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FUNDINGS THERE.AND I DID KIND OF GIVE SCOTT AND THEREFORE HIS TEAM, A HEADS UP ON THIS ON ANOTHER WAY TO KIND OF TACKLE THE REST OF THAT, UM, COST ESTIMATE AMOUNT TO, TO FEEL BOTH OF THESE POSITIONS AND SCOTT, IF YOU HAD ANY, UH, THING TO FILL THAT IN FOR THAT SCOTT SCOTT, BEFORE YOU MOVE UP, UH, CAN I PROPOSE SOMETHING? UH, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AS WELL, AND, UH, BUT IT WILL CONSIDERATION INTO IT.
WE, UH, HAVE THE 45,000 WE SAVED ON THE FIREWORK LAST YEAR, WHICH WOULD BRING OUR COSTS DOWN TO 1 43.
WHAT DO WE HAVE ON THE OVER AND UNDER, UH, UH, RESERVE FOR THE CITY? IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE BOTTOM LINE CASH POSITION OF THE CITY RIGHT NOW, THE SLIDE NUMBER THREE HAD ALL BEEN WRAPPED INTO THE BOTTOM LINE, GENERAL FUND NUMBERS TO, TO BALANCE THE BUDGET.
THE ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED FOR THE SENIOR CENTER WOULD, WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT.
SO WE'RE MAKING A LIST OF THE, THE CHANGES RIGHT NOW.
UH, THE $45,000 WAS I BELIEVE PROVIDES AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT WAS ALREADY WRAPPED INTO HELP MAKE THE CHANGES ON SLIDE THREE.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE, WE KIND OF CAME INTO THIS MEETING EVEN WITH A BALANCED BUDGET.
SO WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO RESERVE TO FUND THIS.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO DIG INTO CASH RESERVES FOR, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PULLING FROM RESERVES FOR THIS POSITION, WE'D HAVE TO, TO BRING NEW MONEY, YOU'D HAVE TO READ IT THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE, BECAUSE I WAS AWARE OF THE CONVERSATION.
AND SO WE'D BEEN WORKING HARD BEHIND THE SCENES, UH, TO, TO FIND SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OFFSET.
UH, I'VE TALKED TO CHIEF AND I'D LIKE TO ASK CHIEF BURNETT TO, TO SHARE A FEW THINGS THAT, THAT MAY JUST HELP ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SO THIS NEXT YEAR WE SEE A RETURN IN SOME OF OUR OPERATIONS TO WHAT WE WOULD CALL RETURNING TO NORMAL OPERATIONS.
WE OBVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED SOME ANOMALIES WITH THE COVID AND THAT ADJUSTED OUR PATROL RESPONSE, AND IT ALSO IMPACTED OUR STAFFING.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD STAFF MEMBERS THAT CAME DOWN WITH COVID OR THAT WERE EXPOSED TO COVID.
SO THEY HAD TO DO THEIR QUARANTINING AND THAT IMPACTED OUR STAFFING LEVELS.
AND THEREFORE WE HAD RESIGNED RE REASSIGNED MANY OFFICERS FROM THEIR SPECIALTY POSITIONS.
ONE OF THOSE IN PARTICULAR IS OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION.
MANY OF OUR TRAFFIC OFFICERS HAD TO RESUME NORMAL PATROL DUTIES, WHICH MEANS OUT THERE ANSWERING CALLS INSTEAD OF NECESSARILY ENFORCING OUR TRAFFIC LAWS, UH, AND THINGS ARE RETURNING TO NORMAL OR WITH OUR STAFFING LEVEL.
AND WE HOPE THAT THEY'RE WELL KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT THERE AND ENFORCE THE TRAFFIC LAWS IN A WAY THAT WE WOULD WANT TO IMPROVE OUR ROADWAY SAFETY.
UM, ANOTHER IMPACT THAT HIT US AND FOR OFFICER SAFETY REASONS, OUR OFFICERS, WHETHER THEY BE PATROL OR TRAFFIC OR OTHERWISE WERE ACTUALLY INSTRUCTED FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS TO NOT MAKE TRAFFIC STOPS, UNLESS WHAT THEY HAD OBSERVED WAS AN ABSOLUTE DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM.
SO THE ROUTINE TRAFFIC STOPS FOR AN EXPIRED REGISTRATION OR INSPECTION OR OTHER SMALLER ITEMS, UH, WERE NOT BEING MADE.
AND THIS IS BACK IF YOU, IF YOU GO WAY BACK TO WHEN COVID, UH, WAS VERY, VERY UNCERTAIN FOR ALL OF US AND, AND NOBODY WANTED TO HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH ONE ANOTHER, UNLESS IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
WE DIRECTED OUR OFFICERS TO STOP MAKING THEIR ROUTINES, SMALLER VIOLATION, TRAFFIC STOPS.
ALL OF THAT IS COMING BACK INTO PLAY.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY THE TRAFFIC, WE ALL SEE IT IT'S BACK.
CENTRAL TEXAS IS THRIVING, AND EVERYBODY'S ON THE MOVE.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR ACCIDENTS HAVE RETURNED AND THE GOAL AND PURPOSE OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IS TO IMPROVE ROADWAY SAFETY.
SO OUR TRAFFIC OFFICERS ARE RESUMING THEIR DUTIES.
THEY'RE RETURNING FROM THEIR PATROL ASSIGNMENTS.
UH, AND THEY'RE GOING BACK TO WORK.
ANOTHER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF DUTIES.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE INSPECTION OR ENFORCEMENT THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING.
THAT'S A VERY SPECIALIZED SET OF TRAINING COURSES THAT OUR OFFICERS ATTEND, THAT OUR TRAFFIC OFFICERS ARE ATTENDING.
AND THERE'S A BY-PRODUCT OF THAT.
WE DO IT FOR TWO REASONS TO IMPROVE ROADWAY SAFETY FOR ALL OF OUR MOTORS, GYM, PEDESTRIANS, AND SECOND, TO, TO PREVENT THE DAMAGE TO OUR CITY STREETS.
THESE OVERWEIGHT VEHICLES THAT ARE USING CITY STREETS, THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE ARE DAMAGING AND TEARING UP THE STREETS.
AND THE CBE OFFICERS IT'S OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION WILL BE OUT ENFORCING THOSE NEW LAWS AS WELL.
AND I SAY NEW TO THEM, THEY'RE NOT NEW ON THE BOOKS.
THOSE HAVE A BI-PRODUCT THOSE HAVE VERY HEFTY FINES.
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THE STATE INTENDS FOR OVERWEIGHT LOADS AND HEAVY TRUCKS THAT HAVE OTHER VIOLATIONS SUCH AS BRAKES THAT ARE NOT WORKING AND TIRES THAT AREN'T KEPT IN GOOD SHAPE.THEY WANT TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON THEM.
SO THEY ALLOW VERY HEFTY FINES.
UH, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT COME IN THROUGH THE NORMAL COURSE OF ENFORCEMENT.
ALSO, OUR WARRANT OFFICER, UH, WAS ASKED TO MINIMIZE HIS CONTACT WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC.
AND THEREFORE WE WERE NOT NECESSARILY BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE COURT.
REMEMBER CITY HALL WAS CLOSED.
WE WEREN'T BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE COURTROOM TO PAY THEIR FINES, NOR WERE WE GOING OUT AND MAKING THOSE ARRESTS AND TRYING TO STACK THE JAIL DURING COVID WITH CLASS C MISDEMEANORS, UH, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT TIME NOW.
AND ALL OF OUR OFFICERS, INCLUDING TRAFFIC AND WARRANTS ARE RETURNING TO THEIR NORMAL DUTIES.
THE OTHER GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE NOT SLOWED DOWN IN OUR HIRING PROCESS AND WE HAVE HIRED A NUMBER OF NEW OFFICERS AND CADETS, UH, AT THEIR VARIOUS LEVELS.
WE JUST RECENTLY HAD SOME GRADUATE FROM THE ACADEMY THAT ARE NOW RESUMING THEIR, THEIR IN-HOUSE FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.
WE HAD, UH, WE'VE HAD SOME GRADUATES FROM THE FTO PROGRAM, AND THEY'RE NOW OUT ON THE STREETS, PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES AS FULL-TIME OFFICERS.
AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE STARTING IN ABOUT, UH, 10 DAYS FROM NOW.
SO WE HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE OF OFFICERS THAT'LL BE STARTING.
SO WE'RE AVOIDING THE ACADEMY THERE.
WHAT DOES THAT ALL MEAN TO THE TRAFFIC DIVISION AND, AND POTENTIAL? UH, AS, AS, AS A SIDE BENEFIT, THE REVENUE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THEM DOING THEIR NORMAL DUTIES IS THAT WE'RE GETTING FULLY STAFFED.
WE ARE VERY, VERY, WE ONLY HAVE ONE OPENING RIGHT NOW, ONE VACANCY.
WE HAVE SOME IN TRAINING AND WHATNOT, BUT WE HAVE, UH, JUST ONE VACANCY AND WE HAVE SEVERAL IN BACKGROUNDS.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF SOON, ALL IN ALL THAT MEANS MORE OFFICERS ENFORCING THE TRAFFIC MORE, DOING THE JOB THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS WE RECOVER FROM COVID AND GET OUR STAFFING UP.
UM, SO I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OFFSET THERE THAT WE'VE, THAT WE DID NOT REALIZE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID AND STAFFING SHORTAGES, THOSE NUMBERS THAT ARE HISTORICAL WILL RETURN TO NORMAL.
HOLD ON, SUMMARIZE THAT WELL ENOUGH.
YOU TALKED ABOUT, UH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, ROBERT, FINE TO ME, ROBERT, ROBERT
THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE OUR RADIO, ALL THOSE DOWN TO THAT EMERGENCY SERVICES.
UM, I'M SURE HE SAID SOMETHING GREAT AND I WOULD'VE PROBABLY AGREED WITH IT, SO YEAH, I'M SURE.
CAN HE SEE US? I THINK HE'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND 10 OFFICERS NOW HE'S AT 10, 10 OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
WE, WE, WE WERE UNABLE TO HEAR YOU.
IT DID IT SOUND LIKE SOMETHING WAS BLEEDING INTO THE SYSTEM, BUT IT DID NOT SOUND WHAT NUMBER REAL QUICK WOULD THAT PUT US TOGETHER? YES, SIR.
I WAS JUST ASKING, WHAT NUMBER WOULD THAT PUT US AT? OH, GOD, I TURNED OFF MY, UH, CASPER.
I THINK THE CAMERA IS MESSING ME UP.
I JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAY WITH THE COVID NUMBERS RISING, UH, 333 NEW CASES, UH, WE JUST HAD A DEF, UH, THIS PAST WEEK, I THINK WE'RE STILL NOT OUT OF THE WOODS ON THAT, BUT I DO SEE THE INCREASED TRAFFIC AND THE RECKLESS DRIVING.
AND I REALLY LIKE US TO FOCUS ON THAT PART OF IT.
I KNOW REGISTRATION STICKERS ARE OUT, BUT I THINK IT'S STILL PEOPLE BEING AFRAID OF GOING INTO PUBLIC PLACES TO RENEW THEIR REGISTRATION.
AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO PULL ONLINE.
SO I THINK RIGHT NOW, I, I JUST DON'T SEE US BEING OUT OF THE WOODS WITH COVID YET.
UH, AND I'D STILL CAUTION ON, ON, ON, UH, WHERE WE PUT OUR OFFICERS AT IN, IN WHEN IT COMES TO LINE OF DUTY.
BUT, UH, THAT'S KINDA WHAT I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW, BUT YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED AND INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION IS THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY.
UH WE'VE WE ALL KNOW THAT WE CAN DO BETTER WITH THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND LPR, THE LPR SYSTEM, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN OUR BUDGET WILL ALSO HELP OUR OFFICERS PERFORM THOSE DUTIES THAT WILL HELP THEM DETECT STOLEN CARS, MISSING CHILDREN, MISSING ELDERLY CITIZENS FOR THE GRAY ALERTS.
AND IT WILL ALSO HELP THEM DETECT THOSE THAT HAVE WARRANTS AND THOSE THAT HAVE EXPIRED REGISTRATION AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL HELP
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THEM DO THEIR DUTIES.AND I THINK THAT'S USING SMART MONEY RIGHT THERE, UH, TO HELP THEM PERFORM THEIR SERVICES AS WELL.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOU INCLUDING THAT IN THERE TOO.
AND I THINK CUSTOMER, YOU, YOU ASKED HOW MANY OFFICERS WOULD WE HAVE COMPLETELY.
SO TODAY WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO 54.
WE HAD THREE THAT WERE, I'M GOING TO SAY TENTATIVELY APPROVED ALREADY IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS OF THIS BUDGET.
AND THEN I HEAR YOU MENTIONING TWO MORE TODAY THAT WOULD PUT US AT A TOTAL SWORN STAFF OF 59 AND THAT'S FROM THE CHIEF TO THE NEWEST OFFICER.
GOTCHA, SIR, I APPRECIATE YOU ADDING THE TECHNOLOGY PART AS WELL.
THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT OF THIS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR ALL THE TIME TOO, PARTICULARLY FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND WE ALL KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT AS WELL, TRAINING AND BY ADDING OFFICERS, I KNOW OUR AGENCY DOES VERY COGNIZANT OF TRAINING AND SENDING TO TRAINING, BUT THAT IS ALSO, IT COULD BE HELPFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE WE THEY'RE OFF THE TRAINING.
WE NEEDED THAT BACKFILL AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO INCREASING THE TRAINING AND AWARENESS AND DEESCALATION, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TALK ABOUT.
WE NEED, WE NEED STILL BODIES TO KIND OF FILL IN WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE DOING THAT AND TO ALLOCATE THAT TIME TO DO THAT AS WELL.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE TECHNOLOGY PIECE ALSO AS WELL ON THAT.
WHAT WAS OUR NUMBER? W IF WE WERE TO ADD THOSE TWO OFFICERS, I'M SORRY, CHIEF.
THAT WOULD BRING US TO A TOTAL OF 59 OFFICERS.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE PREVIOUS THREE THAT YOU'VE TENTATIVELY APPROVED IN OUR DISCUSSION.
AND THAT'S, UH, FOR A CITY OR 58,000 RESIDENTS.
UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UH, TOTAL SAN MARCUS SCOTT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR TOTAL RESIDENTS ARE? I HAVE AN IDEA IS HE HE'S IN OUR CONVERSATION.
UM, THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS IS SLIGHTLY SOMEWHERE AROUND 70,000 OR SLIGHTLY BELOW.
AND I BELIEVE THEIR CURRENT AUTHORIZED STRENGTH IS A 116 SWORN OFFICERS, 116.
SO DOUBLE, ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, UH, ACTUALLY DOUBLED MORE THAN, YEAH.
MORE THAN DOUBLE AND BUDA IS CURRENTLY AT 30 SOME THOUSAND RESIDENTS.
I BELIEVE IN WHAT, HOW, HOW LARGE IS IT? I THINK THEY'RE JUST UNDER 30.
I THINK THEY'RE APPROACHING 30 OFFICERS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BALLPARK ON HIM, UM, WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW AS A DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, I'LL KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME WORK IS ALSO HAS TEXAS STATE, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE IS ABOUT 42 OFFICERS, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A HUNDRED.
AND IF YOU WERE TO COMBINE THOSE TWO, 160 SOMETHING OFFICERS IN SAN MARCUS, THE SAN MARCUS AREA.
THANK YOU, CHIEF CHIEF SOVIETS HERE.
UH, ON AVERAGE, WHAT IS YOUR, UH, RATIO AS FAR AS OFFICERS ON DUTY WITH, UM, A AND B SHIFT? SO WE OPERATE FOUR SHIFTS JUST TO COVER THE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
SO WE HAVE AN, A, B, C, AND D IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, UM, WE GENERALLY HAVE FOUR OFFICERS AND A SERGEANT.
UH, IF EVERYBODY'S THERE, IF EVERYBODY WERE TO BE ON STAFF, WE WOULD HAVE FIVE PLUS A SERGEANT WITH OUR CURRENT STAFFING THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYBODY'S OUT OF TRAINING OUT OF FTO.
AND SO, SO FIVE OFFICERS PER SHIFT.
FIVE, FIVE OFFICERS JUST FOR THE LARGE AMOUNT OF CITY WE GOT.
SO WE ADD THE ADDITIONAL, YEAH, THAT WOULD HELP.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S, IF EVERYONE'S THERE AND NOT IN TRAINING AND NOT SICK LEAVE AND NOT FMLA AND YOU NAME IT ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LEAVE, BUT YES, SIR, IF EVERYONE'S REPORTING TO DUTY, WE WOULD HAVE FIVE OFFICERS AND A SERGEANT.
AND THESE TWO THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED TODAY WOULD GO A LONG WAY IN IMPROVING OUR SERVICES.
JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP FOR THE RECORD.
YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING, GETTING THAT, UM, YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD HANDLE THE TWO FTES OUT OF THE POLICE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT NEW REVENUES COMING IN.
IT'S A BALANCED PROPOSAL FROM THE CM.
I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT CHARLES.
AND THAT'S IN LARGE PART DUE TO A RETURN TO NORMAL OPERATIONS AS WE BOUNCE BACK FROM COVID AND WHEN OUR STAFFING IS UP AND WITH ALL THE NEW EMPLOYEES THAT WE WERE GIVEN AND WE'RE FILLING THOSE VACANCIES NOW I DO BELIEVE SO.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME TO JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT THEN CLARIFYING YOU COULD FIND $188,000 TO ADD THESE TWO POSITIONS AND A VEHICLE WITHOUT US HAVING TO CUT ANYWHERE ELSE, OR I DO THINK SO, BASED ON THE INFORMATION, THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON INCREASED REVENUE FOR SERVICES AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, THAT THE PD PRODUCES, I THINK THERE'S A BALANCING EFFECT BETWEEN THEIR WORK PRODUCT AND WHETHER IT BE WARRANT SERVED AND MONEY BROUGHT INTO MUNICIPAL COURT CITATIONS ISSUED, UH, AND THEIR NORMAL COURSE OF WORK.
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WE'RE NOT JUST SPITBALLING WITH THAT.WE LOOK AT HISTORICAL NUMBERS AND THE WAY WE ARE TODAY COMPARED TO HISTORICAL PRIOR TO COVID PRIOR TO SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES AND BEING FULLY STAFFED LIKE WE ARE NOW, UH, AND WE, WE HAD THOSE REVENUES HISTORICALLY.
SO WE THINK AGAIN, JUST BY BEING POST COVID ADDITIONAL TECHNOLOGY AND THE WAY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, THAT WE'LL JUST GET BACK CLOSER TO THOSE HISTORICAL NUMBERS IS BY THE NATURE OF, OF ACTIVE POLICING.
SO JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, MY, MY THOUGHTS ON THAT ARE, IF WE'RE, IF THAT'S THE PROPOSAL THAT THAT'S FINE.
IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT CUTTING FROM THE BUDGET, I HAVE SUGGESTIONS THAT I MIGHT WANT TO BRING UP TO WHERE WE WOULD CUT AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE FOR THE RECORD.
I AM NOT INTERESTED IN CUTTING ANYTHING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MOSTLY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT PUNISHED FOR THE POSITIONS THAT, UM, THEY'VE BEEN REQUIRED TO HIRE IN REGARDS TO THE, TO THE, UM, NOT THE, TO THE BOND, BUT TO THE PROP F SO WE'VE SOMEHOW, UM, TAKING THOSE POSITIONS AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY, USE THEM AGAINST, BUT, UM, USE THEM AGAINST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THOSE ARE POSITIONS THAT WE COULD HAVE USED IN OTHER WAYS.
EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE I STAND AND I DID ALL MY HOMEWORK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, ALL THE CRIME STATISTICS, THE POPULATION, HOW BIG WE ARE, HOW MANY WE SHOULD HAVE, HOW MANY WE DO HAVE.
AND I I'M ALWAYS GOING TO VOTE YES.
AND I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW, MAYBE THE BUILDING'S NOT BIG ENOUGH, BUT EVENTUALLY IT WILL BE.
AND WHEN THAT DAY COMES, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE RUSHING AROUND TO GET MORE OFFICERS.
SO I'M, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CUTTING ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE IN IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MAYBE MONEY AND FEES.
WE CAN'T BE SURE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT FROM NECESSARILY.
AND, AND THEN I KNOW HE SAID, WE'RE GOING BACK TO NORMAL, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE ON THAT.
AND SO, UM, I'M NOT WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK WHEN WE HAVE MONEY IN OTHER WAYS, AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FROM THE LOBBYISTS.
IT CAN BE FROM OTHER PLACES, BUT, UM, UH, I, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WHAT'S, WHAT'S ON THE SHEET.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS A BALANCED BUDGET.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S BEING PROPOSED THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CUT ANYTHING.
AND I THINK HE WAS SAYING HE WOULD HAVE THINGS TO CUT, NOT FROM PD.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE A DISCUSSION WHO WOULD WANT TO CUT.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN PROPOSED TO CUT THE LOBBYISTS BECAUSE THE PROP F TASK FORCE MAYBE CAME UP WITH THAT IDEA.
LET ME SEE, LET ME MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY COULD USE THEIR OWN FUNDS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE PROPOSAL, BUT ARE THOSE FUNDS BEING USED FOR THIS EXTRA FUNDS THAT WE ASSUME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE, OR ARE THEY LIKE FOR SURE FUNDS THAT WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT THEY'RE GETTING ALL REVENUE, PROJECTIONS ARE ASSUMED, OKAY, THEY'RE NOT, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
RIGHT? SO LIKE, WE'RE LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS OVER SALES TAX OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY'S GET BALANCED, BUT IF THE, THE FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CITY MANAGER THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE THREE OF YOU HAVE PROPOSED WITHOUT CUTTING FROM ANOTHER, THAT'S A MUCH EASIER PATH SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT WHICH RESOURCES ARE MOST IMPORTANT TO CUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE EASIEST PATH IS RIGHT BEFORE US, CERTAINLY.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TASK FORCE DISCUSSED THIS, WE WERE UNAWARE THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM, FUNDS AVAILABLE WITHIN THE OWNED DEPARTMENT TO, AND PROPOSE REVENUES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO FUND SUCH A POSITION.
SO THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP TRYING TO PREPARE COMING TO THIS DISCUSSION WITH SOME OPTIONS TO CUT.
AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT EVEN THE PROPOSAL THAT WE GAVE MAY GIVE SOME HEARTBURN, BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE FELT WAS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO ADD TO THE CRITICAL MISSION OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
NOT ONLY AS A TASK FORCE, BUT AS, AS A, AS A WHOLE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE BROUGHT FORWARD THAT POSITION.
UH, WE WERE COMPLETELY UNAWARE THAT THIS COULD POSSIBLY BE, UH, COVERED, UH, THROUGH REV AND PROPOSED REVENUES, WHICH IS, I THINK, NEW TO NEW TO US.
UM, AND HONESTLY WOULD HAVE HAD, THAT WAS AN OPTION WOULD HAVE LIKED TO MAYBE SEEN THAT SOONER.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I THINK, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S REALLY ADVOCATING FOR ANY CUTS FROM THE PD.
I THINK IT WAS FROM OTHER PLACES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CUT, RIGHT.
IF NECESSARY, EVERYONE IN COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE TO CUT FROM THE BUDGET.
THAT'S NOT A PROP F FORCE DISCUSSION.
THAT'S A COUNCIL LEVEL DISCUSSION MAKING A PROPOSAL IS FINE, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS AS, AS I'M SURE THE OTHERS WHO ARE NOT IN THAT ROOM WOULD HAVE THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM TO CUT OUT OF THE BUDGET.
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NEEDED TO COME WITH AN IDEA AND WE KNEW WE COULDN'T JUST COME WITH A PROPOSAL AND NOT COME WITH AN IDEA OF WHERE WE COULD GET THOSE FUNDS FROM, OR AT LEAST STARTING TO DISCUSSION FROM.SO THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
CERTAINLY WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE THREE AND THE COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO WEIGH IN ON THAT DECISION.
IT'S A RECOMMENDATION IF THAT'S THE CASE.
UM, COULD WE STILL LOOK AT POSSIBLY GOING THROUGH WITH THAT AND INSTEAD OF WHAT THE TWO EVENTUALLY END UP WITH FOUR POSITIONS, YOU REALLY WANT TO CUT THE LOBBYING BUDGET TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL TWO OFFICERS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE A TOTAL OF FOUR.
I THINK TWO IS GOOD RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ZERO ADDING ZERO, UH, PATROL THIS YEAR.
I THINK TWO IS, IS A GOOD CON STARTING POINT.
UH, I THINK, UH, NEXT YEAR WE'LL LOOK AT ANOTHER TO, TO FILL IN THAT VOID.
AND I THINK TWO OFFICERS, UH, IS, IS GOOD BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING OTHER POSITIONS AS WELL.
AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UH, SO DEFINITELY I DON'T WANT TO SEEM LIKE WE'RE JUST A ONE SIDED AND WE'RE JUST GOING IN ONE DIRECTION.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, UH, UH, COUNT OUR BLESSINGS RIGHT NOW THAT WE GOT THE TWO OFFICERS THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR.
CAUSE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR BUDGET THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NEED ALL THE WAY ACROSS IN ALL DEPARTMENTS, BUT GETTING THOSE TWO OFFICERS AND NOT HAVING TO CUT NOTHING.
I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A BLESSING RIGHT NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, WE, WE'RE NOT CUTTING BOTH LOBBYISTS OUT.
WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT POSTPONING ONE FOR ONE YEAR.
MY, MY, MY RESPONSE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE LOBBYING BUDGET IS ALSO WAY OVERDUE AND IT'S THE ONLY LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET, OR IT'S ONE OF THE VERY FEW LINE ITEMS IN OUR BUDGET THAT ARE DESIGNED TO BRING IN MORE REVENUE, AS OPPOSED TO LESS, THERE ARE PROBABLY 10, 15 OTHER THINGS I'D RATHER CUT THEN THE LOBBYING BUDGET, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF HOW IMPACTFUL THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE TO OUR OVERALL BUDGET UP TO, AND INCLUDING GOING OUT AND GETTING POLICE DOLLARS AND ALL OTHER KINDS OF DOLLARS, UH, GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST, I THINK THAT GOING AFTER THE BIG DOLLARS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PURSUE, BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.
I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILD A LOBBYING BUDGET.
SO THERE'S JUST A, THERE'S JUST A TON OF DIFFERENT ITEMS IN HERE THAT I THINK IF OUR PRIORITY IS WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WEIGHT MORE HEAVILY ON THE POLICE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE BETTER TO TAKE FROM, UH, THAN, THAN THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, WE CAN GO THAT LIST, BUT I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT DONE.
SO, I MEAN, DO WE WANT TO GO DOWN THE PATH OF TRYING TO CUT SOMETHING? WE CAN JUST ALL WE CAN ALL GO AROUND.
I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THE LIST.
I DON'T WANT TO FRUSTRATE Y'ALL AND SAY SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL CARE ABOUT.
JUST LIKE I DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT I CARE ABOUT BEING PROPOSED.
SO I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD PROPOSAL HERE.
SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL SUPPORT.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION UNLESS WE HAVE THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO SEE FIT, TO HIRE THE ADDITIONAL TWO.
OTHERWISE THAT WOULD JUST BE A WASTE OF BREATH.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE COULD CUT WHEN THE MAJORITY DOESN'T EVEN WANT THE ADDITIONAL TWO OFFICERS.
WELL, IT'S AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT ONE, BUT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND CUTTING ELSEWHERE.
DOESN'T WANT TO GO TO FOUR OFFICERS PROPOSES A CERTAIN SET OF THE TWO.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BE BS HAS MADE HIS THOUGHTS ON THAT.
I UNDERSTAND THE LOBBYIST PART.
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT GETTING THE DOLLARS AND ADVOCATING FOR THAT, UH, I GUESS, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND ALL DEPARTMENTS AND I'M NOT TRYING TO WEIGH IN SAYING THAT THIS IS JUST A TOP PRIORITY FOR ME.
OF COURSE, WHAT'S WHAT I DO, BUT IT'S, IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY AND THAT'S THE KEY POINT WHEN WE HAVE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, SAFE CITY, ALL OF THOSE ENTAIL WHETHER YOU'RE DEALING WITH ECONOMICS, THE ECONOMIC PART OF OUR CITY AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN MY, MY, MY VIEW IS, IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE TOP PRIORITY.
BUT, UH, I UNDERSTAND, AND I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY ON THAT END.
AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS CAUSE I GOT TO GET THIS PART OFF MY CHEST WITH THE, WITH THE LOBBYISTS.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
IT'S MY FIRST YEAR ON THE COUNCIL.
YOU AND I, UH, YOU BROUGHT UP THE LOBBYISTS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S A BALLPARK
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DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS GIVEN OUT THERE.UH, WE HAVEN'T EVEN ACCOUNT AS A COUNCIL WAS SEEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE THAT A FEDERAL LOBBYIST AND A STATE LOBBYIST WOULD ABLE TO BE ABLE TO BRING? I KNOW Y'ALL ARE DOING THOSE INTERVIEWS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT NOTHING'S BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL ON THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING BOTH KINDS OF LOBBYISTS IS PARTICULARLY IN THIS FIRST YEAR, WHAT, WHAT THAT POTENTIALLY, WHAT A STATE LOBBYIST COULD BRING THAT A FEDERAL LOBBYIST COULDN'T DO OR WHAT A FEDERAL LOBBYIST COULD DO THAT A STATE LOBBYIST COULDN'T DO.
I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENCES, BUT HAVE THOSE BEEN EXPLAINED AND UNDERSTOOD.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT LAMAR SMITH, A, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IS A PART OF THAT, THAT FEDERAL LOBBYIST CONTINGENT CONTINGENCY.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING TOO, THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WITH THE 300,000, WE'RE KIND OF TAKING A LEAP OF FAITH ON, YOU KNOW, THESE TWO BRINGING SOMETHING FORWARD, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING CONCRETE ABOUT WHAT THOSE, WHAT THOSE DIFFERENCES WOULD BE BETWEEN THAT IS THAT, WELL, YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
AND THE NOBODY HAS ENGAGED REALLY AT THIS POINT, ANY STATE LOBBYISTS, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY'S IN THE BUDGET AND THAT THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT OF THAT.
SO IT GETS, IT GETS CONVOLUTED WHEN THERE'S A DESIRE FROM ONE, YOU KNOW, FROM, UH, FROM A GROUP OF THE COUNCIL TO ADD OFFICER'S OR ADD TO THE BUDGET.
AND THEN THERE'S A PROPOSAL TO CUT FROM SOME OTHER, FROM SOME OTHER GROUP.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S EASIER TO TRY TO SEPARATE THOSE THINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT, OR MAYBE THE BETTER WAY TO SAY IS, IS THE GOAL TO ADD OFFICERS OR IS THE GOAL TO CUT THE LOBBYIST BUDGET? SO IF THE GOAL IS THE FIRST THAT THERE'S A LOT, Y'ALL HAVE MADE A PROPOSAL, WE COULD ALL MAKE PROPOSALS, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR ME, THAT'S JUST NOT WHERE I WOULD GO.
I WOULDN'T GO TO, TO THAT ITEM.
UH, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF IT JUST DEPENDS, I, YOU KNOW, IF THE GOAL IS TO DO THAT, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I GUESS ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SPEAKING FOR MYSELF WHAT THE BENEFITS OF A STATE LOBBYIST, THEY WOULD BRING THAT A FEDERAL LOBBYIST WOULDN'T BRING RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CLEAR CONVERSATION AS A COUNCIL ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT STATE LOBBYIST WAS TARGETED AS FAR AS A PROPOSAL FOR A POTENTIAL CUT.
BUT THE GOAL IS TO ADD OFFICERS AND FOR CHIEF, WE'RE NOT MICROMANAGING THIS FOR CHIEF TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST UTILIZE THAT IN THE OVERALL MISSION OF HIS DEPARTMENT, THAT IT'S HIS, HIS DECISION TO MAKE.
BUT THE GOAL IS BY FAR THE FIRST THING WE HAD TO TRY TO FIND AN INITIAL AREA TO MAKE A PROPOSAL TO THIS COUNCIL, WITH THIS BUDGET MEETING IN MIND ABOUT WHERE WE WOULD START TO TRY TO FUND THAT.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT.
IT IS NOT THE SECOND HALF OF OUR GOAL IS TO GET RID OF THIS SECOND LOBBYIST OR THE STATE LOBBYIST THAT WAS NOT THE OUTSIDE OF THIS.
THE OUTSIDE WAS TO ADD, UH, POSITIONS TO OUR RPD.
I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT WHEN PEOPLE BRING IDEAS, NOT NECESSARILY SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT LIKE, HEY, THIS IS OUR IDEA.
AND THIS IS HOW WE PLAN ON GETTING IT DONE.
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES SOME PEOPLE JUST SAY YES OR NO, AND THEY HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE PLANS.
AND I THINK THAT MAKES GOING FORWARD OR BEING PROGRESSIVE, UM, A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT.
SO I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY BROUGHT THE IDEA OF THE LOBBYISTS, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE WERE TOLD THAT THIS IS ALL WE CAN AFFORD.
AND SO THEY WERE TRYING TO JUST BE PROACTIVE.
I DON'T THINK THEY MEAN ANY MALICE OR ANY HARM.
SO, SO THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER WHO WORKS REALLY HARD AND LISTENS TO ALL THE COUNCIL.
THEY HEARD THE, THAT THERE WAS A DESIRE FOR TWO ADDITIONAL PATROL OFFICERS.
YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY ALSO KNEW THERE'D BE HARD TO ACCOMPLISH THAT BY CUTTING THE LOBBY LOBBYIST POSITION OR THAT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD CREATE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A SPLIT ON THE COUNCIL OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO THEY WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT AND ACCOMPLISH WHAT ESSENTIALLY WHAT EVERYONE WANTED, WHICH IS THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT EVERY CITY MANAGERS REQUIRED TO DO.
SO, YOU KNOW, OR TO, TO, TO PURSUE AT LEAST.
SO THAT'S WHERE I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, LET'S GO FOR MORE AND LET'S, LET'S ADD EVEN MORE.
I THINK THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER OR NOT Y'ALL WANT TO GO TO FOR NOW.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO COME UP WITH A, KIND OF A NEW, NEW CRACK AT IT.
SO MAYBE IF THE TASK FORCE HAD BEEN A PRIZE OF, OF THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER FUND BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I JUST FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO BEFORE THE MEETING, THERE IS NO POLICE BUDGET TASKFORCE.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOT SAYING THAT.
BUT DEX SAID HE HAS SPOKEN TO SCOTT ABOUT IT.
AND THEN, SO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION THERE PRIOR TO, BUT YET HE'S JUST LEARNING THAT THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF FUNDS.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY HAD THAT BEEN DISCUSSED PRIOR TO THE, MAYBE THAT WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT THE LOBBYIST AT ALL? YEAH, I AGREE.
I THINK HE JUST TOOK SOME COMPENSATIONS AND SOME HEADS
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COMING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO NOT HAVE TO CUT ANYTHING AND HOW WE COULD PAY FOR IT WITHOUT, SO THAT'S FINE AGAIN.I AGREE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT HAPPENED, BUT NOBODY KNEW ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION UNTIL RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED PRIOR TO, SO HAD YOU REACHED OUT TO DEX AND TOLD HIM, HEY, THIS IS YES, I DID.
LET'S LET'S PUT THAT ON THE TABLE.
WE TALKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
THIS IS ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM COURT FINES.
JUST TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO WRITE MORE TICKETS AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
SO WE NEEDED TO COME UP WITH AN OFFSETTING REVENUE FOR IT.
HISTORICALLY OUR REVENUES HAVE BEEN MUCH LOWER THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK TO BASICALLY PRE COVID TIMES, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT SOME SORT OF QUOTA, IT'S NOT ANYTHING IT'S ANTICIPATING WHAT WE'RE MOVING INTO.
WE DID HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
SO I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT WE DID TALK ABOUT IT.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT CONVERSATION WAS TO FIND THE DELTA BETWEEN TO PAY FOR THE ADDITIONAL, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO BE SHORT, EVEN IF WE CUT THE LOBBYISTS TO GET TO THE 188,000.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I'M NOT QUARRELING OR DISAGREEING WITH SCOTT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUES PERHAPS PROPOSE OR TO GET THE DELTA BETWEEN WHAT WOULD BE BETWEEN CUTTING THE STATE LOBBYIST POSITION AND GETTING TO THE REST OF THE WAY THE 40 TO $60,000 WE NEED.
SO THAT, SO MAYBE THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN US, BUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS ABOUT.
NOW THERE'S A DELTA, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT TWO POSITIONS IN A, IN A PATROL VEHICLE TO FIND.
SO WHETHER THAT COMES OUT OF THE LOBBYIST MONEY, WHETHER IT COMES OUT OF INCREASED REVENUES FROM THE COURT FINES, WHETHER IT COMES OUT OF CUTTING OTHER ITEMS, THERE'S DEFINITELY A DELTA.
SO WE'VE, YOU KNOW, IN FURTHER CONVERSATIONS, AFTER SPEAKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE WITH THE POLICE CHIEF, UH, AND BASICALLY LOOKED AT THE HISTORICAL NUMBERS.
BUT WITH PERVEZ, WE FEEL LIKE THE DELTA CAN BE MATCHED JUST WITH THE ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE.
SO THEN THE QUESTION IS, DO WE, DOES THIS COUNCIL WANT TO NOW TRY TO TAKE IT TO FOUR AND CUT SOMETHING? OR ARE WE SATISFIED WITH WHERE THIS IS? OR FOR ME, I, I, I, I, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE HARD TO FIND MONIES FOR THE TWO AND I'M SATISFIED GETTING THE TWO OFFICERS, UH, THAT'S WHAT THE ASSOCIATION, UM, RELATE TO US AT THE ADDITION OF TWO OFFICERS WOULD REALLY HELP THEM, UH, DRAMATICALLY.
AND I'M GOOD WITH THE TWO OFFICERS.
I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THOSE FUNDS.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? NO, PLEASE, SIR.
OH, I WAS JUST, I JUST WANT THE FEEDBACK FROM CHIEF BEFORE.
THEN I WANT TO JUMP IN ON THE MORE PART, BECAUSE, UM, SCOTT, YOU SAID WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK TO HISTORICAL REVENUES, RIGHT? WE'RE BASING THIS ON HISTORICAL REVENUES, CORRECT.
SO THEN WITH THE GAP WITHIN THOSE HISTORICAL REVENUES SHOULD COVER THE COST OF THE POLICE OFFICERS TOO, RIGHT.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING AT LEAST THAT CORRECT.
IT MIGHT BE A JUMP TO SAY FOR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BRIDGE IS THERE.
I DON'T REALLY CARE, BUT I HAVE THINGS I LIKE TO, I LIKE THINGS I WANT TO PROPOSE, BUT I TRY TO KEEP THE BUDGET BALANCED AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A LONG PROCESS AND EVERYBODY'S INVOLVED.
SO I ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, LIKE I CAN COME WITH A BUNCH OF BASS AND THEY'RE RELATED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY.
SO MY ASK NOW, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS SOME SORT OF GAP AND CHIEF, YOU CAN SHUT THIS DOWN AND IT'S TOTALLY FINE, BUT YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE CITIZENS ON PATROL PROGRAM AND WHAT I THINK THAT DOES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH PATROLLING THE EXTRA EFFORTS, THE GREAT VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAVE THERE.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET FOR THEM.
AND WE'VE BEEN SCRAPING BY, IS THERE SOME SORT OF AMOUNT, AND IT'LL BE A SMALL AMOUNT COMPARED TO THE TWO OFFICERS.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF FUNDS TO HELP THAT PROGRAM, WHO I THINK HAS EXCEL DURING COVID AND SHOWING THEIR VALUE, ADD SOMETHING THERE TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR CITIZENS ON PATROL, USING THAT GAP THAT, THAT WE'RE WE'RE DISCUSSING.
SO I THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO BETTER THAN THAT.
SO WE WERE HOPING TO GROW THAT PROGRAM.
REMEMBER WE STARTED WITH FOUR.
SO I THINK I CAN MAYBE ABLE TO EVEN DO BETTER THAN THAT.
SO REMEMBER WE CAME TO COUNCIL YEARS AGO TO DISCUSS THE PROGRAM AND THEN IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM WITH YOUR PERMISSION.
WE WANTED TO START SMALL IN BABY STEPS AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PROGRAM WAS WELL RAN.
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MEMBERS OF CITIZENS ON PATROL.WE'VE SEEN THEM PERFORM A VARIETY OF SERVICES, WHETHER IT BE WEATHER RELATED COMMUNITY RELATED SUPPORT OF THE PD AND SUCH, UH, THIS YEAR, WE WERE HOPING TO ACTUALLY GROW THAT DIVISION.
I ACTUALLY THINK I CAN DO THAT WITHIN OUR EXISTING BUDGET.
I DON'T THINK I WILL EVEN NEED ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO IS COME BACK BEFORE YOU AND SAY, WE'RE ASKING PERMISSION TO GROW FROM FOUR TO SIX OR EIGHT MEMBERS.
AND TO EXPAND THE ROLE OF THAT PROGRAM, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF COMPLAINTS THAT COME IN, TYPICALLY THAT COULD BE HANDLED BY SUCH A GROUP, WHETHER IT BE MODERATE PARKING COMPLAINTS, WHETHER IT BE VERY SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINTS AND THEY'RE WILLING TO, THEY WANT TO HELP THEY, THESE VOLUNTEERS ARE SOME OF THE BEST YOU'LL FIND ANYWHERE AND THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I THINK WE CAN ABSORB GROWTH IN THAT DIVISION AND USE THEM IN A BIGGER AND BETTER WAY THAN WE HAVE BEFORE, BECAUSE WE WERE TAKING BABY STEPS WITHOUT ANY INCREASE IN FUNDING.
WE WOULD JUST COME BACK BEFORE YOU HAD A COUNCIL AND GET PERMISSION TO GROW THE PROGRAM.
COULD I GET YOU TO, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S NO LINE ITEM NECESSARILY FOR THAT PROGRAM.
COULD I GET YOU TO PUT SOMETHING IN A LINE ITEM SO I CAN SEE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WATCH IT GROW, BECAUSE I AM VERY PROUD OF THE PROGRAM THAT YOU STARTED WITH THAT I ACTUALLY LIKED THAT.
I MEAN, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
I'M IN SUPPORT OF THAT AS WELL, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I, I GOT TO WITNESS HOW IMPORTANT, UH, THE COP WAS DURING, UH, THE ICE STORM DURING THE PANDEMIC, UH, THEM BEING OUT THERE.
I REMEMBER ONE EVENING THEY WERE OUT THERE ALL MORNING AND INTO THE AFTERNOON, UH, IN FREEZING TEMPERATURES, DIRECTING TRAFFIC.
AND THAT STAYS WITH ME, UH, THE LOVE THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS VOLUNTEERS GOES BEYOND NO MEASURE.
I MEAN, THEY, UH, THEY WERE OUT THERE, THERE WERE CARS SLIPPING ON THE ROADWAYS, ON THE BRIDGES, AND THEY WERE OUT THERE STANDING IN THE RAIN THE ENTIRE TIME, DIRECTING TRAFFIC AND GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE VACCINATION CLINICS.
AND, UH, I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THEM.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US GROW THAT PROGRAM AND IN THE SAME GOLD STANDARD THAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
CAN I ALSO SAY ANYTIME WE NEED VOLUNTEERS, THOSE ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE WE GO TO AND WITHOUT HESITATION, JUST TELL US WHEN, JUST TELL US WHERE WE ARE TO BE.
SO THEY'RE AMAZING GROUP OF PEOPLE, UM, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS UP FOR THE TASK.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT.
I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR, JIM, FOR THINKING OF THAT AND BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
CAN I SAY, I THINK THEY'RE ALL EXCELLENT IDEAS.
WE MAY NOT AGREE, BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET UPSET OVER IDEAS.
WE WERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE STILL GOT TO TRY TO SEE EACH OTHER'S POINT OF VIEW, TRAVIS AND I DIDN'T INITIALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT TRAVIS WAS SAYING, BUT NOW THAT I DO, I THINK IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
WE KEEP THE LOBBYISTS AND WE FIND FUNDS FOR TWO POLICE OFFICERS.
SO LET'S NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE HEAT AND THE, AND THE FRUSTRATION, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS UNPRECEDENTED.
AND I THINK WE'RE DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB.
SO IF I'M HEARING ENOUGH CONSENSUS ON THAT AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF I AM, BUT IF I'M HEARING, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PLAN FOR THE TWO WEEK, WE'D HAVE STEPS ON HOW TO GET THERE.
SO I'M GOING TO LOOK TO COUNCIL AT THIS POINT TO WRAP THAT UP AND THEN THROW ANYTHING ELSE ON THE TABLE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO.
SO DOES EVERYONE HAVE THE SHEET THAT, THE SHEET, SO WE NEED TO, WE'RE GOING TO, AT THIS POINT, ANY CHANGES THAT THEY WERE, THEY'RE GOING TO REQUIRE, PROBABLY I'M ASSUMING COUNCIL ACTION.
WE JUST GAVE THAT TO YOU TO LEAD THAT, UH, AH, THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT, CAN YOU THROW IT UP ON THE SCREEN? THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO AHEAD NEEDS IN ORDER TO HELP UNDERSTAND THAT.
CAN YOU SHOOT THAT IN AN EMAIL? I JUST GOT HANDED IT.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A TOTAL CHANGE IN THE BUDGET OF 430, $8,000.
IT'S THE ADDITION OF ONE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER POSITION, TWO PATROL OFFICERS, UH, ONE POLICE PURSUIT VEHICLE.
UH, THE PLANNER POSITION IS IN THERE AND IT SAYS ADDITIONAL AND THERE'S A BLANK.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE'S NO AMOUNT TO THAT.
UH, AND THEN THE REDUCTIONS ARE THE DELETION OF THE LGC MANAGER POSITION.
UH, THE COUNCIL AND ARCHITECT PLANNER, THE, UH, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL FINES, CITATIONS, AND MISCELLANEOUS OTHER ADJUSTMENTS IT'S BALANCED.
SO WHAT IT IS IS ONE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, TWO PATROL OFFICERS, ONE POLICE PURSUIT VEHICLE, AND THEN THE PLANNER IS IN THERE, UH, AS A BLANK, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT WAS
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ALREADY ADDED INTO THE BUDGET, BUT IT WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL.SO WE'D NEED AN ACTION, I GUESS, TO, WELL, WE, YEAH, WE MAKE, I PULLED THAT OUT.
THAT IS MAYOR WHAT'S THAT I PULLED THAT OUT SINCE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE ON THE SCREEN, IT'S IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT PLANNER POSITION.
BUT WHAT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE IS THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND ADDITIONAL FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDED TO, AND THEN THE OFFSET WOULD BE GENERAL, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD, IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN TRYING TO TAKE SOME KIND OF ACTION, IT WOULD BE ACTUAL ON THIS PARTICULAR PAGE.
SO YEAH, SO THE ITEMS IN THE TOP WOULD BE THE ITEMS ADDED TO THE BUDGET.
TWO OTHER THINGS I'M LOOKING AT AND PLUS ADDING THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, AND THEN THE ITEMS BELOW ARE ITEMS THAT WOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP PROPOSAL.
WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT FIND ANYTHING FOR THE CITIZENS ON PATROL, OR THAT WILL BE WITHIN THE EXISTING BUDGET.
AND WE GET OTHER CRACKS AT THIS.
THIS JUST KEEPS, KEEPS US MOVING.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE CONVERSATIONS THAT TAKE PLACE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DEPUTY ACM, UH, VARIOUS OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, BUT AS FAR AS SAYING, CONCEPTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TO MOVE THIS AS THE, FROM, UH, ON THE OUTSIDE TO THE INSIDE, THIS WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD DO IT.
WE HAVE TWO OTHER WORK SESSIONS AFTER THIS.
UM, SO, SO WE NEED TO GIVE OFFICIAL DIRECTION.
WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO HAVE MOTIONS ON THIS.
SO LET LET'S, HOW ABOUT WE GO FROM TOP TO BOTTOM BECAUSE I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND IF COUNCIL AGREES, AND I GUESS IF, IF NOT, MAYBE WE COULD TAKE A MOTION ON ADDING THAT, UH, DEPUTY SLASH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER POSITION.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, A VOTE ON IF WE WANT TO ADD THAT POSITION FIRST.
AND THEN, BECAUSE I THINK WHERE, WHERE I'M GETTING AT IS I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE INSTEAD OF A DEPUTY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE, IT SHOULD BE AN ACM.
I THINK JAMES MADE SOME VERY, UH, RELATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE EQUITY ACROSS THERE.
AND I THINK THAT THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER COSTS WOULD BE MORE THAN IF IT WERE THE CITY MA ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, SALARY AND BENEFITS.
SO THERE WOULD BE A CUT THERE.
UH, SO FIRST, DO WE AGREE WITH ADDING A POSITION SECOND? SHOULD IT BE A DEPUTY OR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER? CAN I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IN THE JOB DUTIES? A DEPUTY IS BASICALLY JUST THE LEAD ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS.
SO IT WOULD BE OVERSEE, OVERSEE THE OTHER TWO SUPPOSED TO BE, WELL, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD NOT USE NAMES BECAUSE IT'S AN OPEN POSITION.
ANYONE CAN FEEL THE DEPUTIES FROM, UH, FROM, UH, FROM AN ORGANIZATIONAL STANDPOINT, THE DEPUTY ACM WOULD BE THE LEAD ACM CHIEF STAFF OR B.
SO, SO MY TAKE ON THAT IS, UH, POINT OF THE CONVERSATION IS WHAT DOES SCOTT FEEL AS A CITY MANAGER, HE NEEDS TO, TO SUCCESSFULLY MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
AND SO IF HE WANTS TO GO WITH THE DEPUTY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AS THE BEST POSSIBLE TO ADD TOWARDS THE TOP BAR EXECUTIVES, THEN I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.
IF HE WANTS TO THEN SAY, I WOULD RATHER DO AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT AS WELL, BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S UP TO HIM TO DECIDE WHAT'S BEST.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE PAY HIM FOR.
AND FOR HIM TO BE THE LEADER OF THE STAFF AND UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS.
AND I'M THERE TO SUPPORT HIM ON WHATEVER THAT DECISION IS THERE.
AS LONG AS WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT HE DOES NEED THE HELP AT THE TOP.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN SALARY BETWEEN A DEPUTY AND JUST A REGULAR? OKAY.
I'D SAY, LET, LET ME COME BACK TO WORKSHOP FOR US.
I THINK THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED BEFORE.
BUT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PATROL OFFICERS AND THEN IN A VEHICLE, OR WE'RE JUST GOING TO WAIT TO VOTE IT ON A LITTLE LATER.
WELL, WE'LL NEED A VOTE TODAY FROM COUNCIL.
SO IF YOU WANT TO DO A PIECEMEAL OR ALTOGETHER, AND SCOTT, ARE YOU SAYING YOU DO NOT WANT US TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE NO.
I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A VOTE ON, AT LEAST ADDING THIS POSITION.
WE CAN CALL IT DEPUTY SLASH ASSISTANT AT THIS POINT.
BUT YEAH, IF I COME BACK FOR WORKSHOP NUMBER FOUR AND IT'S JUST AN ACM, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL JUST THE BUDGET.
CAUSE I NEED TO GET A COST ANALYSIS.
AND THAT WAY, HOW MUCH THAT THE PAY DISPARITY WOULD BE OR THE DIFFERENCE.
AND GO AHEAD AND SCOTT, ANYTHING THAT WE
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VOTE ON TODAY IS NOT SO INSTALLED.WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE FINAL BUDGET.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE VOTE ON TODAY CAN BE AMENDED.
WELL, I, MY THOUGHTS WOULD BE TO JUST ADOPT THE WHOLE THING AND ALLOW FOR SCOTT TO CONTINUE WORKING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE, BUT WE GOTTA, WE GOT TO TAKE SOMETHING.
SO THEN YOU, THEN WE WOULD DO DEPUTY AND OR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER INSTEAD OF JUST DEPUTY.
IF EVERYBODY IS OKAY WITH THAT.
THAT WORKS PREPARES FOR CLARIFICATION.
WHEN'S THE FIRST VOTE ON A PROPOSED EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.
BECAUSE ONCE YOU SAY THAT NUMBER, THEN YOU CAN ONLY COME DOWN FROM THAT NUMBER.
SO THE FIRST READING IS AT THE NEXT BUDGET WORK SESSION, BUT THEY CAN COUNSEL CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS ALL THE WAY TILL THE LAST BUDGET WORK SESSION ON AUGUST 25TH.
BUT ONCE YOU PUBLICLY SAY A TAX RATE, YOU CAN'T INCREASE IT AFTER THAT.
NO, BUT YEAH, WHATEVER INCREASES THE COUNCIL MAKES AT THAT POINT, WE'LL HAVE TO COME FROM THE FUND BALANCE OR WE CUT SOMETHING ELSE EQUIVALENT.
I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE ALL THE DOLLARS AS ARE.
CAUSE I DO THINK JAMES'S POINT IS RELEVANT.
IT'S EASIER TO REDUCE IF THAT'S THE DESIRE.
SO, SO DOES EVERYBODY NOW HAVE THAT PAGE IN FRONT OF THEM? IS IT BEEN EMAILED? I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.
I DIDN'T EMAIL CAUSE IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT OKAY.
I THINK EVERYONE HAS SEEN IT SO WE SHOULD STILL GET IT IN IT.
SINCE THERE ARE ADDITIONS AND SUBTRACTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO DO THEM ONE AT ONE ITEM AT A TIME BECAUSE IT'S A BALANCED PROPOSAL.
SO IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE WHOLE THING, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO AMEND THE PROPOSED BUDGET AS OUTLINED ON THE SCREEN ABOVE A TOTAL OF 438,000 AND NEW ADDITIONS, 438,000 AND NEW REVENUES.
UH, AND THE ADDITION OF ONE, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER POSITION THAT COULD BE CHANGED, UH, TO PATROL OFFICERS WITHOUT VEHICLES AND ONE POLICE PURSUIT VEHICLE IN THERE.
CAN YOU ADD THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SENIOR CENTER? I'LL DO THAT.
YEAH, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
WE'LL ADD THE SENIOR SITTER BECAUSE, UH, ON THE NEXT MOTION, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO AND SOMEBODY WANT TO DO THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM THE TASKFORCE EMOTION.
ALL OF A SUDDEN, ALL SECOND YEARS, MOTION, MOTION TO ADD ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TOWARDS THE, UH, FOR CITY'S CONTRIBUTION FOR THIS SENIOR CENTER PROJECT.
SECOND BY CASPER TOBIA SYDNEY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
DO YOU HAVE, I HAVE A DISCUSSION, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS MOTION YOU ADDED THE TWO POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE COMING FROM WITHIN THAT, THAT REVENUE WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WELL THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO AMEND THIS MOTION TO ADD THE LINE ITEM FOR THE CITIZENS ON PATROL.
THAT'S FINE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR CITIZENS ON PATROL TO CHANGE THE BUDGET WITH NO WAY MORE THAN THAT.
CAN YOU, WELL, CAN WE, CAN WE FINISH THIS AND THEN DO A SEPARATE, SEPARATE, UH, SO THAT'S THE MOTION WE HAVE A SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO MPT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, ADD A LINE ITEM TO THE POLICE BUDGET FOR $15,000 FOR CITIZENS ON PATROL SECOND BY PT, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? I'M ASSUMING THAT NUMBER JUST CAME FROM CHIEF.
THERE'S BACK AND FORTH OVER THERE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BE FLYING OFF THE SEAT OF MY PANTS COME FROM OTHER ADDITIONAL REVENUES FROM THE, UH, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND COST SAVINGS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE OTHER POSITIONS.
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SO ARE YOU GOING TO FIND ANOTHER 15,000 ON TOP OF, WOW.I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE FINDING IT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A CONSTANT RATE.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.
SO IF WE ARE REALLOCATING EXISTING FUNDS, THEN WE'RE GOOD ON OUR BUDGET.
WE'RE JUST GONNA MAKE IT WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
IF WE'RE PULLING 15,000 FROM AN EXISTING LINE ITEM AND JUST PUTTING IT IN A, AN IDENTIFIED LINE ITEM.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE IT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH BECAUSE OUR, UH, THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.
WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER FOR NO COST OR VERY LOW COST WAS HAVING THEM SHARE A VEHICLE AND WHATNOT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GROW THERE, I THINK THERE'S A GOOD COMMITMENT HERE FROM THE COUNCIL TO MAYBE DO EVEN MORE THAN WHAT I WAS SAYING.
LET'S GET THEM A GOOD RENTAL VEHICLE THAT THEY CAN USE AND SOME MORE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY CAN USE.
I WAS GOING TO DO A MINIMAL PROGRAM WITH THE BEST THAT WE HAD.
I'M HEARING THAT WE WANT TO DO EVEN BIGGER AND BETTER AND MORE, UH, MORE TOWARDS THAT GOLD STANDARD.
SO, SO, SO CAN WE W WHAT, WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH CHIEF? AND I WILL AMEND THE MOTION, BUT I WANT YOU TO GO GOLD STANDARD WITH THE PROGRAM AND REALLY PUT SOME BEHIND BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT.
IF I MAY, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS IDEA, I REALLY DO LIKE IT, AND I AGREE GOLD STANDARD ON IT.
I LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SOME PROPOSALS OF WHAT YOU WOULD DO WITH THAT TO KIND OF SEE TANGIBLY, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S ADDING, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE, WHATEVER ELSE THAT IS TO RATHER THAN JUST KIND OF, I'M NOT SAYING SPITBALL LIKE A NUMBER, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU A QUICK BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THAT WE CAN LEASE A VEHICLE THAT A THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE VERY SUITABLE FOR OUR PROGRAM TO USE THE OTHER 4,000 WOULD GO TO BUY THEM THE NEW MEMBERS.
REMEMBER I MENTIONED, WHEN I GO, I WANT TO GROW IT SIX TO EIGHT MEMBERS TO GET THEM ALL UNIFORMS. THESE, THE NEWER MEMBERS UNIFORMS TO HAVE THEM ATTEND THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE.
SO IT'S A VARIETY OF POCKETS WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD NEED TO GO.
UH, BUT WE CAN DO THAT WITH $4,000 IF WE GROW IT TO EIGHT MEMBERS.
AND THE BIGGEST BULK OF THAT IS TO GET THEM A LEASED VEHICLE.
YOU PROBABLY SEE THE VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A RETIRED VEHICLE FROM ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT THAT HAD USED, USED IT TO IT'S ALMOST IN-LAWS.
AND THEN WE KIND OF REVAMPED IT FOR A LITTLE BIT.
WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO LA FOR A LITTLE WHILE IT'S WORKING, BUT I'M HERE IN GOLD STANDARD AND WE WOULD NEED TO GET THEM A NEWER LEASE TO VEHICLE IT'S ABOUT $11,000 A YEAR, AND THEN $4,000 IN EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING IS THAT $11,000, LIKE, I GUESS WHAT KIND OF CAR DOES IT? AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A FOUR-DOOR, UH, CHEVY OR FORD PICKUP BECAUSE THOSE WELL, NO, HERE'S WHY, BECAUSE YOU THINK OF PICKUPS COSTS MORE WHEN YOU GO TO PURCHASE THEM.
HOWEVER, THE LEASING COMPANY THAT WE USE ACTUALLY GETS AN OUTSTANDING DEAL BECAUSE THEY BUY MORE OF THEM IN BULK, ON THE FOUR DOOR, A TWO WHEEL DRIVE PICKUPS, BECAUSE THEY BUY SO MANY OF THEM FROM ALL OF THEIR OTHER CUSTOMERS.
THOSE ACTUALLY COME IN CHEAPER THAN THE VEHICLES THAT YOU THINK THAN OTHER VEHICLES.
SO IT WILL PROBABLY BE THAT IF NOT, IT'LL JUST BE A FOUR-DOOR SEDAN CAR.
WE'LL, WE'LL FIND THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE, BUT YET EFFECTIVE VEHICLE FOR THEM.
SO, AND THAT'S AN ANNUAL LEASE PAYMENT.
CAN I GET THAT FOR ME? THAT IS A HECK OF A, YEAH.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THEIR REBATES BECAUSE REMEMBER THAT LEASE PROGRAM, THOSE VEHICLES GO BACK INTO THE PROGRAM AFTER THREE YEARS, AND THAT INCLUDES THEIR REBATE PROGRAM THAT WE GET TO.
I THINK FOR 15,000 WE CAN DO VEHICLE AND UNIFORMS AND TRAINING FOR UP TO EIGHT MEMBERS.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE GOING TO SEE YOU GO ON WITH FORD FOR DEPENDABLE.
I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT 15,000 ALL IN TOTAL IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN FIND THOSE DOLLARS.
I MEAN, COMPARED TO WHAT WE SPENT.
IF WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THE COP PROGRAM EXPANDS, WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN DO IT AT THIS MEETING OR AT THE NEXT EITHER ONE IS FINE, BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST HOW WE GO ABOUT, LIKE CHIEF SAID, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE WAY THAT IT CAN BE FOUND.
THERE'S ANOTHER WAY THAT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE COUNSEL.
IF WE CAN, IF WE ALL WANT IT TO HAPPEN, I'M SURE WE CAN GET THOSE DOLLARS IS KIND OF WHAT I'M SAYING.
THE LOBBYIST THEY CAN DO THAT THE COUNCIL WILL.
SO WHAT'D HE SAY? HE SAID MOVING ON.
SO THE MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR, YEAH.
MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO ADD $15,000 THERE'S UM, UH, TO THE END, CREATE A LINE ITEM, ADD $15,000 THROUGH CLP PROGRAM.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
AND WE'RE JUST CLEAR ON WHERE WE'RE GOING TO FIND THAT.
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AYE.I WANT TO JUST AS PERVEZ, JUST TO GO OVER SOME ESTIMATES ON THE TAX RATE AND THEN, UH, WE'LL WE'LL THEN DIP INTO THE CAN, CAN WE DO THAT UNDER ITEM TWO? OR SHOULD WE JUST KEEP DOING THAT UNDER ITEM ONE? OKAY.
SO MAYOR, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, THAT ALL, THAT ALL WAS PART OF THE MAYOR'S MOTION.
MAYOR, IF YOU WANNA MOVE US TO ITEM TWO AND THEN PROVIDES, WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A RESOLUTION TO RECORD YOUR VOTE, THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER A PROPOSAL AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING OF A TAX INCREASE.
AND PLEASE BE PATIENT I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS.
IT'S REALLY NOT A TAX INCREASE SORTA, UM, THE TAX CODE OR THE STATE STATUTES REQUIRE COUNSEL TO RECORD THEIR VOTE, THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO CONSIDER A PROPOSAL WHEREBY THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE AND THE TAX APPROVAL TAX RATE.
THESE ARE THE OLD EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.
AND THE ROLL BACK TAX RATE, WHICHEVER IS LOWER THAT IF YOUR PROPOSED TAX RATE IS HIGHER THAN ONE OF THOSE TWO LOWER RATES, YOU MUST HAVE THIS VOTE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THAT.
SO WITH THAT AS A BACKDROP, LET ME GO OVER THE TAX.
SO BEFORE YOU ON THE SLIDE, WE HAVE THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE HAYES COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, OR FOR THEM IT'S TAX YEAR 2021 BECAUSE THE TAX BILLS GO OUT IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
SO 2021 CERTIFIED TAX ROLL IS $4.2 BILLION FOR KYLE.
THIS INCLUDES THE CERTIFIED TAX APPRAISED VALUE FOR BOTH OF OUR TAXES.
ONE AND TWO, THE SAME VALUE LAST YEAR WAS 3.7 BILLION.
SO WE HAVE INCREASED BY $522 MILLION OR 14%.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT INDIVIDUALLY, THE CITY BY ITSELF AND THE TUTORS IS THE PERCENT IS LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO CITY, IF YOU CARVE OUT THE TOUR'S WENT INTO THE CITIES, AVI INCREASED BY ABOUT 12 AND A HALF PERCENT.
BUT WHEN YOU THROW IN THE BOAT IS IT'S 14%.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CERTIFIED TAX ROOM? YOU SAID BEFORE YOU THROW IN THE CHARGES, IT'S WHAT, UH, 12 AND A HALF PERCENT FROM THE YEAR BEFORE SO THIS NEXT SLIDE IS SHOWS THE DIFFERENT TAX RATES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND WE STAFF CAN CALCULATE OUR OWN TAX RATES, BUT IT DOES NOT COUNT.
IT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED BY THE HAYES COUNTY TAX APPRAISER COLLECTOR.
THAT'S THE OFFICIAL TAX RATES WE CAN ADOPT ONCE THAT SHE GOES THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND PROVIDES US THAT INFORMATION THAT WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE TO US PERHAPS UNTIL THE NEXT WORK SESSION, BECAUSE THE HAYES COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR COLLECTOR HAS TO CERTIFY OR CALCULATE AND CERTIFIED THE TAX RATES FOR ALL TAXING JURISDICTIONS WITHIN HAYES COUNTY.
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SO WE'RE ALL IN QUEUE WAITING TO RECEIVE OUR TAX RATES.HOWEVER, WE HAVE DONE OUR OWN CALCULATIONS, WHAT THE TAX RATES MAY LOOK LIKE.
SO YOU SEE A LOT OF YELLOWS HERE, A LOT OF DISCLAIMERS HERE, LOT OF ESTIMATES HERE, A LOT OF SUBJECT TO CHANGE HERE.
THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY.
SO ON THE LEFT SIDE IS THE TWO COMPONENTS OF OUR PROPERTY TAX RATES, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS ALSO COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS M AND O RATE.
AND THEN THE SECOND COMPONENT, WHICH MAKES UP THE PROPERTY TAX RATE IS INTEREST IN SINKING OR INS RATE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION RATE COVERS FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT THAT COMES FROM PROPERTY TAX, SUCH AS POLICE LIBRARIES, STREETS.
UH, THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, INTEREST IN SINKING IS USED.
THOSE REVENUES ARE USED TO PAY OUR DEBT SERVICE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON A DEBT SERVICE THAT IS TO BE PAID FROM PROPERTY TAXES.
SOME ARE FAR DEBT SERVICES PAID FROM UTILITY FUNDS.
SOME OF IT IS PAID FROM TERS, UH, BUT MOST OF IT IS PAID FROM PROPERTY TAX.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND COLUMN, OUR CURRENT TAX RATE TODAY IS 52.01 CENTS PER $100.
THE SECOND COLUMN IS THE NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE.
THIS IS A, JUST A NEW BRANDING BY THE STATE FOR THE, WHAT WE COMMONLY WERE AWARE OF OR KNOWN AS THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.
AND IF YOU RECALL, WHAT EFFECTIVE TAX RATE MEANS IS BASICALLY AT WHAT TAX RATE WILL THE CITY GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IT DID THE YEAR BEFORE.
SO FOR US TO HAVE A NO NEW REVENUE TAX RATE WITH THE NEW CERTIFIED TAX ROLL, WE WOULD HAVE TO KEEP THAT TAX RATE AT 47.89 CENTS.
NO, THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE IN MY CHANGE WHEN THE TAX ASSESSOR, UH, CALCULATE THEIR OWN IN THE PAST, WE'VE BEEN WITHIN ONE 10000TH OF A PENNY.
SO IT MAY CHANGE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, WHICH USED TO BE THE ROLL BACK RATE IS CALCULATED AT 50.66 CENTS BASED ON THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL HERE.
AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES MY CHANGE, OKAY.
TAX LAW, THE, THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON THE TAX LAW REQUIRES THAT IF THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE OR THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, OKAY, IT'S THE CITY'S PROPOSED TAX RATE IS HIGHER THAN THE LOWER OF THESE TWO.
IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT OUR CITY'S PROPOSED TAX RATE WILL BE HIGHER THAN THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE, BUT LOWER THAN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.
THERE'S I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND, I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOUR DOCTOR TAX RATE THAT IS ABOVE THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, BECAUSE YOU WILL, BY A NEW LAW, HAVE TO GET THE VOTERS OF KYLE TO APPROVE THAT ANYTHING ABOVE THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.
SO THE REVENUES THAT IS PROJECTED IN THE GENERAL FUND PROPOSED BUDGET IS BASED ON OUR ESTIMATE OF 50.60 CENTS TAX RATE FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO YOU'RE BASICALLY BY ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION.
YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WILLING OR NOT WILLING, WHICH ARE WHERE YOU WANT TO VOTE TO ADOPT A TAX RATE THAT MIGHT BE HIGHER THAN THE NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LOWER OF THE TWO, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE INTENSE, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.
YOU'RE NOT ADOPTING A TAX RATE.
YOU'RE ONLY VOTING ON THAT YOU'RE WILLING
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OR NOT WILLING TO CONSIDER A PROPOSAL AT A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING.SO WHAT I'M HEARING PERVEZ IS THAT WE'RE ADOPTING A NEW TAX RATE AND THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE WITHIN ONE 10000TH OF A POINT OF THE REALITY, RIGHT? NO, SIR.
UH, MY, MY ONLY QUESTION IS THE, THE, THE, THE GEO BONDS THAT WE ISSUED, UH, HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO, DOES THAT, DOES THAT PLAY INTO, BECAUSE THE INS RATE IS GOING DOWN AND I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE INS RATE WOULD GO UP WITH THE ADDITION OF THE PROPOSED GEO BONDS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
SO MAYOR YOU'LL RECALL FROM THE, THE PRIOR WORK SESSIONS, ONE OF OUR MISSION AND GOAL WAS TO DEFER THAT TAX RATE IS INCREASED AS FAR AS WE COULD POSSIBLY COULD.
UH, SO THE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR IS THAT THE TAX RATE IMPACT FOR THE $37 MILLION PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY AND THE $10 MILLION BOND THAT THE CITIZENS APPROVED FOR THE PARKS, A TOTAL OF 47 MILLION, THAT THE DEBT SERVICE ON THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DEFER UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 23 AND THE 5 0 6 5 IS BELOW THE ROLLBACK.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT IF THE ROLLBACK COMES IN AT 5 0 6 6, THAT OUR PROPOSED TAX RATE BEEF 5 0 6, FOR YOU SAYING, FOR NOW TO SET THE MAXIMUM, TO NOT EXCEED THE ROLE, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO SET ANYTHING TODAY, SIR, WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME KIND OF VOTE IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, IS IT NOT A, NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT? THAT'S NORMALLY THE WAY WE DO IT THOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH.
IF YOU LIKE, UH, BUT I, I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL ROLLBACK TAX RATE WILL BE.
SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE PR MOTION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER A TAX RATE THAT IS HIGHER THAN THE NO REVENUE TAX RATE, BUT LOWER THAN THE WATER TAX RATE, AND YOU NEED THAT IN A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE CONSIDERATION OF A TAX RATE THAT EXCEEDS THE NOTE NEW REVENUE TAX RATE, BUT THAT DOES NOT EXCEED THE ROLLBACK TAX RATE.
SECOND MOVE BY THE MAYOR SECOND AND BY CUSTOMER FLOORS SCALES OR DISCUSSION ON THAT.
AND MAYOR, WE NEED A ROLL CALL, VOTE ON THIS.
ROLL CALL UP THIS MICROPHONE COACH.
IS THAT IT? DO WE NOT HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT WE DID THIS ONE? NOPE.
WELL, REAL QUICK BEFORE WE DO THOUGH, CAN I JUST ASK THAT NEXT BUDGET SESSION? WE'D GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINITIVE.
WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT SERVICES AND OPPORTUNITIES WE WILL GET BETWEEN THE FEDERAL LOBBYISTS AND THE STATE LOBBYISTS.
I KNOW Y'ALL ARE STILL WORKING OUT THOSE THINGS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COUNCIL TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BENEFITS AND SERVICES AND OPTIONS WE GET BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS.
AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, I KNOW WE'VE RECEIVED SOME INVOICES FOR THE LIGHTS ON, UH, FOR THE CHRISTMAS, UH, FESTIVAL AND WHATNOT.
HAVE WE EXPENDED ANY OF THOSE DOLLARS YET ON THAT? AND IF SO, HOW MUCH? SO FAR THE CHRISTMAS DISPLAY DECORATIONS, ALL THE TREE RAPPING AND THE CENTER STREET DECORATIONS, ALL THE VENDORS HAVE RECEIVED THE PURCHASE ORDERS.
UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING HAS BEEN PAID YET.
SO LET ME JUST, THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE IF THE DOLLARS ARE EXPENDED FROM THAT, THEN THAT WOULD, THAT, THAT THIS WAS THE END OF THE LAST WORK SESSION QUESTION.
AND I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER ON IT UNTIL AFTERWARDS, IF THOSE DOLLARS ARE EXPENDED BEFORE
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THIS FISCAL YEAR IS UP, THEN THAT WOULD NOT NEED TO ROLL OVER TO NEXT, UH, FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, CORRECT STAFF.THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING AT END OF THE MEETING LAST TIME.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT COSTS WOULD COME DOWN.
SO IF WE CAN EXPEND ANY OF THOSE, THOSE DOLLARS TO PAY THOSE INVOICES, WOULD WE NOT HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WOULD COME OUT, COME FREE BECAUSE OF THAT? UH, NOT QUITE IF LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW THE REAL NUMBERS, BUT FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, LET'S SAY THE PO IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THIS FISCAL YEAR, THEY ONLY SPEND 30.
SO THE REMAINING 70,000 FOR THAT PO WILL ROLL OVER FOR NEXT YEAR IS WHEN THEY ACTUALLY PAY.
IF THEY PAID ALL A HUNDRED THOUSAND THIS YEAR, THERE'S NOTHING TO ROLL OVER.
BUT IF THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, THEY ONLY SPENT 70,000 OF THE A HUNDRED.
THEN THE 30,000 BECOMES A BIT, RIGHT? SO THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT CHANGES, RIGHT? SO IF, IF IT'S, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WE ALSO WITHHOLD PAYMENT TYPICALLY UNTIL THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, IT'S NOT COMPLETE TO OUR SATISFACTION.
SO, BUT THE THING I THINK THE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IF YOU SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR 200,000 OUT OF GENERAL FUND, AND ONE, ONE YEAR THAT THE MONEY IS, IS, IS SPENT AND WE AMENDED THE LAST YEAR OR THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR IT.
SO I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 200,000 BECAUSE OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, OR BECAUSE WE SPENT 200,000, IT'D BE A PORTION OF 200,000.
THE ONLY PORTION THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO BE REUSED, WHICH IS KIND OF WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THE 45,000 POTENTIALLY FOR FIREWORKS IS IF IT'S NOT EXPENDED AT ALL, BUT REGARDLESS OF WHICH FISCAL YEAR IT COMES IN, IF WE'RE PLANNING TO SPEND IT, WHICH YEAR WE SPEND IT IN, DOESN'T MATTER FOR YOU, YOU CAN'T TAKE THE, YOU CAN'T TAKE AN AMOUNT BECAUSE WE SPENT IT IN ONE YEAR AND THEN MAKE IT AVAILABLE IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO YOU HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE, UH, A HUNDRED, WE'LL JUST SAY A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT NUMBER, BUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE AMENDED THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR.
AND WE'RE ALSO PUTTING IT INTO NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO EXPAND 30,000 OF THAT BEFORE THIS FISCAL YEAR IS UP PAYING ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS, KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE DON'T PAY THE FULL THING BECAUSE OF JERRY'S POINT THEN WOULD THAT NOT CHANGE THE BUDGET LINE ITEM TO $70,000 FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BECAUSE 30,000 OF THAT IS SPENT, OR YOU STILL WOULD KEEP THAT AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, EVEN THOUGH 30,000 WAS SPENT BEFORE THIS FISCAL YEAR WAS UP WITH THE AMENDED BUDGET.
DOES THAT QUESTION MAKE SENSE? EXCUSE ME.
THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS, IT DEPENDS.
RIGHT? UH, SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHEN THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED.
SO IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE US TO, BY THE TIME THE BUDGET IS APPROVED TO REDUCE THAT LINE ITEM IN THE FUTURE, YEAR'S BUDGET TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT WE'VE ALREADY EXPENDED IN THE POS, THEN WE CAN DO THAT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN ASKING.
CAN I ALSO MAKE A REQUEST THAT WHATEVER ONE COUNCIL MEMBER GETS OR WHATEVER ONE PERSON GETS THAT IT'S PASSED OUT? MOSTLY BECAUSE I'M A PAPER GIRL AND I LIKE TO WRITE ON IT AND TAKE NOTES.
AND SO I KNOW THERE WAS, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T PRINTED OUT AND, AND GIVEN TO US, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING, ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS COULD SHOW ON THE SCREEN, I WOULD BE REALLY GRATEFUL.