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[1. Call Meeting To Order]
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE CITY OF KYLE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, REGULAR MEETING TO ORDER.CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MEYER MEYER.
PAUL, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
DID YOU HEAR DEB? NO, I DIDN'T TRY IT AGAIN.
[A. Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes for July 27, 2021, and August 10, 2021.]
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 27TH, 2021 AND AUGUST 10TH, 2021.MAY I HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? YES I MOVE.
WE APPROVE THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FOR JULY 27TH, 2021 IN AUGUST 10TH, 2021.
CAN I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CITIZEN COMMENTS.
THIS IS A CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, PLANNING AND ZONING WELCOMES ANY COMMENTS FROM THE CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF A REGULAR MEETING.
SPEAKERS ARE PROVIDED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME ONLY ON AGENDA ITEM OR OTHER ITEMS CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS.
THERE'S A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
IS THERE ANYONE I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, CITIZENS COMMENT, WHOOP CITIZENS COMMENTS.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SEEING NO ONE? I WILL CLOSE CITIZENS.
[5. Consent]
NUMBER FIVE, CONSENT AGENDA.LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AS A PROVIDED SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND TWO SECONDS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
[A.
Consider a request by RPC Kyle, LLC and Kyle 120 LLC (Z-21-0088) to assign original zoning to approximately 318 total acres (PUD Zoning - 256 acres to Single Family Attached ‘R-1-A’) (43.92 to Apartments Residential-3 ‘R-3-3’) (18.38 acres to Retail Service District ‘RS’) for property located at 700 Bunton Lane and 800 Bunton Lane, in Hays County, Texas.
- Public Hearing
- Recommendation to City Council
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'VE BEEN TOLD THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
SO IF YOU ARE HERE, PLEASE COME ON UP OR COME ON DOWN AND GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I'M HUNTER FLOYD WITH RASTAGAR PROPERTY COMPANY.
I HAVE REBECCA LEONARD HERE WITH ME AND A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM.
UH, FIRST OFF, JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING THE TIME TONIGHT AND DOING THE PUBLIC SERVICE THAT YOU DO.
UM, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SHOW YOU WHAT, UM, THE PROJECT WE HAVE, UH, PUT FORTH TONIGHT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME WITH CITY STAFF, UH, WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY IN, UH, 2019, UM, WE DID A LOT OF EXPLORATION IN KYLE AND JUST TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE RIGHT FIT, UH, FOR THIS AREA IN KYLE AND WHAT THE CITY WANTED, WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED AND WHAT WE THOUGHT THAT THE LAND SORT OF DICTATED FOR THE SITE AS WELL.
UM, WITH THAT, WE FOUND A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN EAST CAL.
THEY WERE VERY PROUD OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR REGION AND KYLE, AND IN MY OPINION, UNFORTUNATELY, WITHOUT A LOT OF PLACES, LOCAL PLACES TO REALLY BE PROUD OF.
UM, SO WITH THAT, WE, WE, WE, FROM THE OUTSET, WE, UH, WE PLANNED, UH, OR, OR STROVE TO, UM, CREATE A COMMUNITY THAT HAD PLACES THAT PEOPLE, B PEOPLE COULD BE PROUD OF.
UM, WE HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL NATURAL AREAS WITHIN THIS SITE THAT ARE NOW GOING TO BE OPEN, UH, TO COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE ENTIRETY OF ALL KYLE,
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UM, TRAILS THAT LINK UP WITH THAT, UH, AS WELL AS SOME, SOME ENTERTAINMENT, UH, AND USES THAT WE THINK, UM, ARE, UH, REALLY GOING TO BE NUMBER ONE, NEEDED A NUMBER TWO, A POINT OF PRIDE FOR PEOPLE ON EAST KYLE.SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, UM, KIND OF SHOW YOU THE FRAMEWORK FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE CREATING TO CREATE THIS, THIS FUTURE COMMUNITY AND THE ZONING STANDARDS.
AND I'LL START TO FLIP THROUGH THE SLIDES.
UM, I THINK IT'S AN ALL-STAR TEAM, UH, RASTAGAR PROPERTY COMPANY BEING A DEVELOPER, UH LIONHEART, WHICH IS A FANTASTIC URBAN PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM.
WE NEED TO KIND OF FLIP THEM AROUND.
ARE WE, ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT.
YEAH, WE STRUGGLE ON ZOOM ALL THE TIME NOW TO GET THE RIGHT THING ON THE SCREEN.
I GUESS WE SCRUBBED, WE STRUGGLE IN PERSON TOO.
UM, SO AS I WAS SAYING, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A FANTASTIC TEAM.
UH LIONHEART UM, GREAT PLANNING FIRM, GREAT URBAN DESIGN AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM.
UH, REBECCA LEONARD'S HERE WITH ME TONIGHT.
THAT'S DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, SETH MIRIK AND CHRIS ROLES.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES CONSULTANT AND CAR CARRA DEVELOPMENT.
LAUREN ANDERSON'S HERE TONIGHT, IAN QUEUED, UH, WHO'S WORKED ON A LOT OF PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF KYLE IS A, IS A MEMBER OF THE TEAM AS WELL.
AND THEN ON LAND PLANNING, UH, PRINCIPAL DOMAIN FROM SAN ANTONIO, STEVE CAUSAL, I'M GONNA START WITH JUST GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT AND TO WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS.
I'M SURE YOU GUYS, UH, GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE MAP OF THE CITY OF KYLE EVERY WEEK OR TWICE A MONTH, WE'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE REGIONALLY THE LOCATION HERE, UH, AND THAT WE ARE SORT OF STRADDLING HIGHWAY 21 AND 35.
UM, AND I THINK 21 HAS BEEN A BIT OF A, UH, A FORGOTTEN SORT OF TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE WITH ALL THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE EAST SIDE OF AUSTIN, UM, AND THE GROWTH AROUND ONE 30, INCLUDING TESLA, SAMSUNG, AND OTHER THINGS, UH, 21, WHICH CONNECTS WITH ONE 30 IS GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
UM, THIS IS A LOOK AT YOUR, UH, FUTURE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WAS JUST APPROVED, I THINK LAST WEEK, UM, UH, IMPORTANT WE ARE, WE ARE RIGHT SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF ONE OF THE, UH, UM, REGIONAL COLLECTORS, UH, OUTLINED IN THAT TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
UM, AND WITH OUR PROPERTY, WE WILL BE BUILDING OUT A LARGE CHUNK OF GRISTMILL ROAD, WHICH WILL BE A NEW KIND OF EAST WEST CONNECTOR, UH, FOR THIS AREA IN KYLE, JUST TO FURTHER LOOK AT THAT, JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SEE IT ON THE MAP AND UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT WE'RE BUILDING OUT THERE.
UM, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY IMPORTANT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, AND, UH, AND HAVE INCORPORATED IN OUR, IN OUR PLANS AS KIND OF THE SPINE OF THE COMMUNITY FROM THE GET-GO I'M GOING TO PASS IT OFF TO REBECCA AS WE GO FORWARD HERE.
UM, BUT I'LL BE AROUND FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL AND FILLING IN.
THANK YOU, REBECCA LEONARD WITH FLYING HEART.
UH, GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE HERE, UH, ABOUT 200 ACRES OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY ZONED R ONE TWO, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, UM, RESIDENTIAL OF 65 FOOT WIDE BOTS.
UH, WE HAVE LOTS OF THAT AROUND THE AREA AND THEN ANOTHER 118 ACRES WAS RECENTLY ANNEXED AND IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL TEMPORARILY UNTIL, UH, IT GOES THROUGH A PROCESS SUCH AS THIS.
SO A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT ABOUT THE SITE.
UH, THE SITE IS 318, UH, TOTAL ACRES ABOUT 60 ACRES OF IT IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
UH, YOU CAN SEE BUNTON LANE IS, UH, LABELED A NUMBER ONE ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE SITE, UH, WHICH PARALLELS BUNTON CREEK PRETTY MUCH THROUGH THE SITE.
UH, PLUM CREEK IS THE BOOK IS THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE SITE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, WATER LEAF PARK IS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF PLUNK CREEK FROM THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
UM, WATER, UH, WATERLOO FALLS NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UH, ACROSS THE CREEK AS WELL.
AND THEN TO THE WEST IS THE BUTTON CREEK RESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE'RE KIND OF RIGHT IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY THAT'S GROWING RAPIDLY, UH, SURROUNDED BY BEAUTIFUL AMENITIES LIKE
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THE CREEK NETWORKS.SO AS THE TEAM GOT TOGETHER TO START TO PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT, SOME KEY GOALS STARTED TO BUBBLE TO THE TOP.
FIRST OF ALL, THEY WEREN'T LOOKING TO DO A SINGLE USE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY REALLY WANTED TO CREATE A WALKABLE DIVERSE HUB FOR THIS PART OF THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, PROVIDING A VARIETY OF MIX OF USES AND HOUSING TYPES.
UH, AND I'LL SHOW YOU MORE ABOUT THAT, UH, IN A MINUTE.
AND ALL OF THAT CENTERED AROUND A PUBLIC OPEN SPACE NETWORK, CONCLUDING A PLAZA.
SO CREATING A VERY VIBRANT AND AUTHENTIC PLACE WHERE RESIDENTS COULD GET OUT AND GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
AND I REALLY FEEL AT HOME AND BUILD A COMMUNITY THERE.
UH, ANOTHER GOAL WAS THEY WANTED TO HONOR THE AGRICULTURAL PAST OF THIS AREA.
AND SO THINKING ABOUT WAYS TO KEEP SOME OF THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND TYING INTO ALL THE WONDERFUL, UH, RE UH, OPEN SPACE AND NATURAL AMENITIES IN THE AREA LIKE THE CREEKS WITH TRAILS AND RECREATION.
SO, UH, EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, THE TEAM LOOKED AT SEVERAL BENCHMARKS.
I GIVEN THIS AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE AGRITOPIA, WHICH IS IN, UH, PHOENIX, ARIZONA WAS ONE THAT CAME TO MIND, UH, AND THE GROUP LOOKED AT AS WELL AS MUELLER AND PLUM CREEK, A LITTLE CLOSER TO HOME HERE, UH, IN, UH, KYLE AND AUSTIN.
AND SO REALLY WHAT W WHAT WAS LEARNED THROUGH ALL THIS ANALYSIS OF OTHER BENCHMARKS OUT THERE IS THAT THIS IDEA OF MIXING USES AND MIXING HOUSING TYPES REALLY DOES DELIVER A FANTASTIC PLACE TO LIVE AND BUILD COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, UH, WE ALL HEADED.
I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE.
WE'VE GOT SOME SINGLE FAMILY, UH, APPROXIMATELY 60% OF THE SITE AREA WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY.
UH, THERE WILL BE A TOWN SQUARE THAT WILL INCLUDE SOME, UH, COMMERCIAL USES AND A PLAZA SPACE.
THERE WILL BE ABOUT 20% OF THE SITE IN PARKS, TYING INTO THE CREEKS AND IN GREENBELTS IN THE AREA.
AND THEN ABOUT 14% OF THE SITE IS, UH, FOR, UH, MULTIFAMILY AND EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, THE, UH, THE CLIENTS DID A MARKET STUDY TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER LAND USES, UH, ARE NEEDED IN THIS AREA.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY LOOKED AT WAS RETAIL, AND WHAT IS THE ACCESS OF THIS AREA OF YOUR COMMUNITY TO, UH, RETAIL.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, FROM THIS, THE SITE AND, AND KIND OF THE NEAREST RETAIL IS THREE MILES AWAY.
AND, UH, THAT MEANS IT'S NOT WALKABLE.
EVERYBODY'S GETTING IN A CAR TO GO TO THAT RETAIL.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S ONE THING THEY WANTED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THEY BROUGHT SOME OF THAT CLOSER TO HOME.
ANOTHER OUTPUT FROM THAT STUDY WAS THIS ACCESS TO RETAIL SERVICES, BREAKING DOWN EVERY POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, RETAIL, UH, PURCHASE A HOUSEHOLD MIGHT MAKE.
AND, UH, LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WAS UNDER SUPPLIED IN THIS AREA IN THE THREE MILE AREA.
AND SO THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT AND OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME, IF NOT ALL OF THESE IN THIS AREA WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, KEEP PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO TRAVEL SO FAR AND ALSO KEEP SOME OF THE SALES TAX HERE IN KYLE THAT THEY MIGHT SPEND ELSEWHERE.
SO, UH, THIS IS A, AN IMAGE OF THE, THE PLAN, THE CODIFIED PLAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, IN THE DARK GREEN AND, UH, UP AT THE NORTH ENDS, UH, THE PUBLIC PARK SPACE, IT'S ABOUT 61 ACRES.
UM, YOU CAN ALSO SEE SINGLE FAMILY IS THE GREEN, UH, AREA THAT KIND OF LIGHTER GREEN ON MY SCREEN ANYWAY.
UH, AND THEN WE'VE GOT ORANGE FOR MULTIFAMILY, AND THAT'S NOT JUST STUCK OUT ON THE EDGE.
THAT'S INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNITY AS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERED AROUND A TOWN SQUARE IN SOME COMMERCIAL AREA.
SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE PARK SPACE, LONG BUTTON CREEK TO THE NORTH, UH, ADJACENT TO, IT WILL BE A RESTAURANT AND GATHERING PLACE.
AND I'VE GOT SOME IMAGES I'LL SHOW YOU IN A SECOND ON THAT, UH, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF, THERE WILL BE THIS COMMERCIAL, USE THIS, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND PLAZA SPACE CREATING KIND OF A CENTER CENTER RIGHT ON GRISTMILL ROAD.
SO AS PEOPLE ARE DRIVING, YOU KNOW, COLLECTING AS THAT ROAD IS IDENTIFIED, UH, THROUGH THIS AREA, THEY WILL HAVE A PLACE TO COME IN AND PICK UP SOME GOODS AND SERVICES THERE.
UH, WE HAVE VARIED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT SORT OF RING OUT FROM THAT CENTRAL PLAZA SPACE, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE, WHICH, UH, THE, UH, OWNERS HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND, AND WORKING THROUGH THE SITE AND SIZE AND LAYOUT AND LOCATION, AND THEN A DIVERSE, SINGLE FAMILY, DIVERSITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING TYPES.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE, UM, WHAT WE LOVE AND WE CALL THE CONFETTI PLAN HERE, BUT IT'S THERE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ONE STREET.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES ON EVERY STREET, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE KEY HERE.
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SO AS I MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE A VARIETY OF HOUSING AND HERE'S HOW THEY BREAK DOWN.WE'VE GOT SOME DETACHED, WE'VE GOT SOME TOWNHOMES AND WE'VE GOT A RANGE OF POSSIBLE, UH, UNITS.
THAT'LL BE TOWNHOMES FROM FIVE TO 20%.
WE'VE GOT DETACHED ALLEY LOADED.
UH, SO THESE ARE SMALL LOTS, UH, 35 TO 45 FOOT WITH AN ALLEY WE'VE GOT DETACHED.
UH, FRONT-LOADED, WE'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT SIZES, THREE DIFFERENT SIZES OF THOSE, AND ALL OF THOSE WILL BE MIXED IN, UH, INTO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT, AGAIN, YOU WON'T HAVE ONE STREET THAT'S ONE PRODUCT TYPE FOR THE MOST PART, UH, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SPACES, I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THE PARK SPACE AROUND BUNK AND CREEK AND THE RESTAURANT AND GATHERING PLACE, THE CENTRAL PLAZA.
WE'VE GOT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A TRAIL ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTHERN END.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU, UH, SOME, UH, RENDERINGS OF EACH OF THOSE, BUT I THINK THE KEY FIRST IS THAT WANTING TO MAKE SURE THERE IS AN AMENITY THAT'S WALKABLE TO EVERY SINGLE HOUSEHOLD IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS HARD TO ACHIEVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS, DON'T DO THAT.
AND SO BY DISTRIBUTING THESE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND PUBLIC SPACES AROUND THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY CAN GET OUT THERE AND WALK AND, UM, HAVE ACCESS TO TRAILS AND HEALTHY LIFESTYLE.
UM, SO LET'S LOOK, WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE SITE AND GOT INSPIRED BY THOSE THERE'S AN EXISTING BARN OUT THERE, BEAUTIFUL TREES, LOTS OF GROVES OF TREES AND RIPARIAN AREAS THAT HAVE SOME REALLY HEALTHY TREES, UH, THE OLD HOMESTEAD, AND, UM, JUST BEAUTIFUL WHEN, UH, WHEN ROWS OF TREES AND PRAIRIE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
SO THAT, THAT CENTRAL, UH, RESTAURANT AND GATHERING PLACE THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE CREEK, UH, BUTTON CREEK.
IT'S CURRENTLY IN DESIGN AND, AND WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF INCLUDING OUTDOOR DINING, VERY AGRICULTURAL RELATED, UH, COULD HAVE A NUMBER OF AMENITIES.
UH, HERE'S A SITE PLAN, UH, CURRENTLY IN WORKS IN THE WORKS.
UH, YOU'D COME, UH, FROM THE PARKING LOT THROUGH A PECAN GROVE, INTO THIS CLUSTER OF OUTBUILDINGS, SOME OF WHICH ARE EXISTING BUILDINGS LIKE THE BARN AND SOME ARE NEW, UH, BUT ARCHITECTURE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PLAY ON THE AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE OF THE AREA.
UH, AND YOU'D ENTER THAT FARM SPACE.
UH, THERE'D BE THE COMMUNITY BARN AND EVENT LAWN.
UM, ALSO A TASTING DECK, UH, FOR IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BREWERIES OR WINERIES OR THINGS HERE, UH, MEADOW, AMPHITHEATER, SCULPTURE, AND ART, AND THEN A CONNECTION DOWN TO THE CREEK, UM, UH, THROUGH A MEADOW, THE PLAZA SPACE AT THIS IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THAT CENTERED AROUND, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND ALSO THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
WE ENVISION A PLAZA SPACE, UH, THAT THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING WILL KIND OF WRAP AROUND, AND THIS WILL, UH, HAVE A PASEO THROUGH IT FROM PARKING AREAS INTO THE PLAZA SPACE.
SO EVERYONE, EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, YOU AREN'T THERE AT THE OFFICE BUILDING, YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL LIKE YOU CAN GET TO THAT, UM, THAT, UH, THROUGH THE PASEO, INTO THE PLAZA SPACE QUICKLY AND EASILY, WE'VE GOT A CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA PLANNED A CENTRAL LAWN SPACE FOR EVENTS AND AN EVENT PAVILION SPLASH PAD, AND THEN COFFEE KIOSK AND TREE GROVE.
WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT THE PHILOSOPHER FAMILIES LIVING HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED LOTS OF COFFEE.
SO, UM, WE ALSO HAVE, AS I MENTIONED, BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HAVE AN 11 ACRE SITE IDENTIFIED WITH THEM, UH, AT THE, UH, KIND OF EASTERN EDGE OF GRISTMILL AND, UM, WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THAT.
BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE, THE PLANS, UM, FOR WHAT THAT, UH, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE COULD BE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE ASSETS WE'VE BEEN TRAINED TO WORK WITH IS CONNECTED TO ALL THE GREENBELTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO, UM, TO CONNECT.
AND SO WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
AND WHAT WE FOUND REALLY EXCITING IS THAT EVEN THE NEW, UH, PLANNING THAT'S BEEN COMING THROUGH ABOUT TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE HAS BEEN IDENTIFYING, NOT JUST RECREATIONAL AMENITIES THAT ARE CONNECTED BY THE TRAIL, BUT ALSO OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS, WHERE YOU CAN GET OFF THE TRAIL AND ACCESS SOMETHING THAT HAS GOODS AND SERVICES, UH, COFFEE RESTAURANTS, UH, AND OTHER THINGS.
AND SO WE FIT RIGHT INTO THAT.
OUR LITTLE TOWN CENTER WILL MAKE A GREAT LITTLE, UM, UH, CONNECTION DOWN TO THE PLUM CREEK GREENBELT.
AND IT'S ALREADY IN THE PLANS THAT YOU ALL HAVE AS A CITY.
AND WITH THAT ALTERNATIVE BACK OVER TO YO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANYONE, NO, PAUL, WELL, YEAH, I JUST, I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE INCREASE IN, UH, DENSITY
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IS GOING TO BE RELATIVE TO WHAT IT WOULD BE HAD.WE REMAINED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING THAT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR THIS I DON'T KNOW, WHAT'S IN OUR MASTER PLAN.
IS THERE A COMPARISON OF THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE? OH, WAIT A MINUTE.
WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
DO YOU, WE, WE HAVE A STUDY THAT I COULD, WE COULD DO THAT WITH THE, WITH THE STAFF REPORT.
WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
UH, WELL, I CAN SEND FOR THE RECORD.
UM, SO YOUR PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF CON, UM, THEY DID A GREAT, UM, PRESENTATION THERE.
SO I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE TO ADD, EXCEPT I'LL JUST KIND OF MAKE MY WAY THROUGH THE PRESENTATION IF YOU DON'T OR THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT.
UH, THIS IS, UH, WE'RE USING THE ADDRESS OF 700 BUTTON LANE.
UH, IT'S ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, 700 AND 800 BUTTON LANE, BUT JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE EVERYTHING, IT'S 700, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO REZONE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 200 ACRES FROM ARM TWO AND 118 ACRES AG TWO, UH, FOR A TOTAL OF 318 TO THE PUD, WHICH INCLUDES A 256 ACRES ARE ONE, A 43.9, TWO ACRES ARE THREE, THREE AND 18.38 ACRES TO RS.
UM, RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE SANITY MAP, UH, MIKE, UM, REPRESENTATIVE FROM, UH, LIONHEART.
UM, YOU HAVE THE BUTTON SUBDIVISIONS, BOTH BUTTON CREEK RESERVE, AND THE TWIN ESTATES UP THERE TO THE NORTHWEST.
UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH EAST, BETWEEN HEIDENREICH AND, UM, THE REST OF OUR PROPERTY.
UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING DEVELOPED AND, AND BUILDING A BIT OF A STUB TO, UM, CHRIS MILL AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN HE GOT WIRELESS TO THE SOUTH, ALONG WITH THE PLUM CREEK AND THEN A BRANCH OF PLUM CREEK.
I THINK IT'S OUT OF THE BUTTON BRANCH TO THE NORTH FLUNKY AND ON EACH SIDE, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT IS A PRIMARILY ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF IT ARE, ARE ONE, TWO, WHICH IS 65 FOOTERS ON THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.
AND THEN THE REMAINING THIRDS ABOUT IS AG, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR ROW CROPS ON, HAVE YOU SINGLE FAMILY, UH, IN VERY LOW DENSITIES, UH, FROM A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PERSPECTIVE, UH, THEY WILL BE, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, THIS AREA IS EXPECTED TO FROM THE, THE, A DISTRICT 118 ACRES TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THAT EAST NEW SETTLEMENT.
AND WE'LL BE DOING A LOCAL NODE WHENEVER THE COMP PLAN IS, UH, FINISHED HERE RELATIVELY SOON.
UM, THE REASON WHY THEY'RE DOING A POD IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DO, THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE A PROJECT LIKE THEY'VE ALREADY STATED THAT IT WAS EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY AND SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE OVER HERE ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN, AND SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE AND WANTING TO MAKE A TOWN CENTER FEEL TO IT.
AND THEY WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, A PLETHORA OF HOUSING TYPES, UM, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A CENTRAL CORE OF A TOWN CENTER.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE A DESTINATION PLACE AND ALSO MEETING WITH OUR TRAIL NETWORK REQUIREMENTS, UM, OUR TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, UM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE WASTEWATER FROM US.
AND AGAIN, WATER FROM COUNTY LINE SAID, SO THEY HAVE ALL THESE ITEMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE REQUIRED, BUT THEY WANT TO DO THEM.
AND WE SHOULD ALWAYS, ALWAYS TRY TO HELP OUT THOSE PEOPLE WANTING TO DEVELOP PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT MAKES KYLE BETTER.
IT'S WE JUST, WE SHOULD ALWAYS HELP IF THEY LEGITIMATELY WANT TO MAKE IT BETTER.
UM, THEY'RE TYING INTO THE VIBE CONCEPT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SOME OF Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT YET, BUT IT'S A, IT'S AN IDEA THAT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE'RE STARTING THE NEW MOVE FORWARD WITH, FROM A CODE EDITS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME MEETINGS INTERNALLY AND THEN HAVING TO BRING THOSE FORWARD TO Y'ALL AS WELL, WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ALL HIKE AND WALK AND BIKE, UM, AROUND TOWN AS AN ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, BUT HAVE THESE NODAL AREAS WHERE THEY CAN HAVE LITTLE ENTERTAINMENT OR LIKE A PATIO RESTAURANT OR OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EXTREMELY NICE, VERY NEAT CONCEPT.
AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THAT AS WELL.
UM, THE DENSITIES, I DON'T HAVE THE OVERALL
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DENSITY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.I APOLOGIZE, UH, ONTARIO, BUT I DO REMEMBER FROM A CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLY ON WITH Y'ALL THAT THE COMPARABLE DENSITIES, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DENSITY TYPES, UM, B TRAFFIC GENERATION, THERE WAS NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE BECAUSE DIFFERENT, UM, RESIDENTIAL LAND USE TYPES AND DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL LAND USE TYPES, AS THEY'RE ALL COMBINED TOGETHER, THEY AVERAGE OUT IT'S VERY SIMILAR COMPARED TO JUST IF YOU SKEW STRAIGHT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.
SO, UM, THEY, UH, UH, THEY'RE GOING FROM 60 FEET AND UP ALL THE WAY UP TO TOWNHOMES, UM, THE NEW ONE, A NEW, SOME MULTIFAMILY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR VERTICAL MIXED USE.
THERE'S, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF HOUSING TYPES.
ONE THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTING A TOWN CENTER FIELD, AND THESE GUYS ARE DOING IT RIGHT.
UM, THEY ARE ASKING FOR SOME, SOME PUD STAMPS THAT ARE NOT TYPICAL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, BUT SO THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE TO PROJECT BETTER.
AND THOSE ARE TO REDUCE THE STEPS TYPICALLY TO HELP BETTER ACTIVATE THE STREET FROM AN INDUSTRY STANDPOINT, SOME TO SOME EXTENT, SOME PARKING RATIOS, SOME HIGH, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE ON AMONG UNITS FOR, UM, THE MULTI-FAMILY.
BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT EXCEPT I CAN, UM, KNOW PROBABLY ALREADY SEEN IT, BUT, UM, I CAN SHARE THE PUD STANDARDS IF YOU WOULD LIKE, OR I CAN SHOW THE MAP OF THE WAY OF THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
IF YOU, IF THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO SEE, Y'ALL HAVE ANY, I HAVE A QUESTION WE'LL UM, WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THE ZONING, THEY'RE ASKING FOR SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED
NOW YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT TOWNHOMES AND I SAW THEM ON THE PLAN, BUT THERE'S NO ZONING FOR THAT.
AND YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT MIXED USE VERTICAL MIXED USE, AND THERE'S NO ZONING FOR THAT.
SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S WHAT I'M BUILDING, BUT IF IT'S NOT ZONE THERE, HOW DOES IT HAPPEN? THE, THE PUD STANDARDS.
UM, IF YOU ALSO LOOK ON THE MAP, THE LAYOUT THERE, INCLUDING RNT AS A GROUPING IT TOGETHER WITH THE R THREE, THREE, FROM A PERSPECTIVE, JUST FROM A CONSOLIDATION STANDPOINT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MAP LAYOUT, YOU'LL SEE WHERE THERE'S AREAS OF TOWNHOMES.
UM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO INCLUDE SOME OF THOSE IN THEIR RETAIL SERVICES.
BUT HOW DO, HOW WOULD WE ALLOWING THEM TO BUILD? I SAW IT ON THE PLAN.
I MEAN, I COULD SEE WHERE THEY ARE, WHERE THEY INTEND FOR THEM TO BE, BUT HOW CAN THEY DO THAT IF IT'S NOT ZONED THAT, AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I MEAN, I'M BEING SERIOUS.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO PUT THOSE IN WITH, UM, FROM A, FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.
SO WITHOUT A PUD, OUR ZONING DISTRICTS ARE SEPARATE BETWEEN TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY, RIGHT? WHEN IT COMES TO THERE'S FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU CAN HAVE BUILT INTO THAT.
AND THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE JUST SIMPLY ASKING TO HAVE THOSE BUILT INTO THE ROOM TOGETHER FROM A, JUST FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, FROM THE ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WHERE DID IT SAY THAT IN THERE, UM, STANDARDS THAT I MISSED, I DIDN'T, WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT, THEY, THEY WISH THE ZONING FOR A TOWNHOMES TO BE INCLUDED WILL BE INCLUDED WITH THEIR SAY FAMILY ATTACHED OR WHATEVER.
WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S MO IT'S ON THE, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES.
SO THE TOWNHOMES ARE GROUPED TOGETHER WITH THE ZONING OF THE
SO BY REFERENCE, THAT'S HOW THEY ARE SHOWN IN THERE IF BETWEEN NOW AND, UM, WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND NEXT WEEK, IF, IF IT HELPS YOU ALL FEEL BETTER TO BE ABLE TO CLARIFY THAT AND EDITING THEIR STANDARD IN THE WORDING, THAT'S FINE.
WE CAN DO THAT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT PERSPECTIVE.
YOU ALSO MENTIONED MIXED USE TOO, WHICH WOULD BE RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM AND APARTMENTS ON TOP.
AND I DIDN'T, I MEAN, I READ THE STANDARDS AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE WHERE THAT INCLUDES, THAT I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW AS A CITY, SHOULD WE BE ALLOWING THAT IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN SOMEWHERE, IF THIS IS A PUD AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING, THEIR STANDARDS ARE HIGHER
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THAN OURS.I JUST WANT TO SEE THAT IN, IN THE WRITING THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I DON'T WANT 10 YEARS FROM NOW FOR, UM, UH, SOMETHING TO HAPPEN WHERE THE, THEY CAN'T GET THE RETAIL IN THERE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE MULTIFAMILY OR A SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THERE THAT'S HAPPENED BEFORE IN THIS CITY.
AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
UM, FROM THE, IN SECTION E ON THE FLOOD STANDARDS THAT TALKS ABOUT IN RETAIL SERVICES WHERE THEY CAN HAVE A VERTICAL MIXED USE IN THERE AS WELL.
SO IT TALKS ABOUT UNDER USES, UH, FOR MID AN RS DISTRICT.
UM, RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, FOR SOME BULLETS CASE, I, FOR ONE, IF YOU WILL, UM, RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE PERMITTED WITHIN A MIXED USE BUILDING AND LOCATED ON UPPER FLOORS OR ON THE LOWER FLOOR AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, UM, AND WHAT HAPPENS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE IT RIGHT THERE FOR THE AREAS ZONED.
JUST GET THE TOWNHOUSES IN THERE.
I'M COOL WITH IT, MARY SECTION TWO, UM, UNDER THAT SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE AREA, THAT IS OUR ONE A, SO UNDER OUR 180, YOUR ALREADY PERMITTED TOWNHOMES, THEY DON'T NEED THE SPECIFIC OUR WARRANTY.
SO ESSENTIALLY TOWNHOMES ARE BEING PULLED INTO THAT WHOLE SINGLE FAMILY AREA, BUT THEN THE, AND YOUR STANDARDS TABLES ON THAT NEXT PAGE, YOU'VE GOT A MINIMUM ALLOCATION OF TOWNHOMES.
SO THAT ESSENTIALLY ENSURES THAT YOU'VE GOT A ZONING THAT ALLOWS THEM, AND THEN THESE GUYS ARE REQUIRED TO BUILD THEM AT THAT MINIMUM.
BECAUSE WE DESPERATELY NEED TOWNHOMES IN THIS CITY.
WE DO, WE, I MEAN, WE HAVE KAJILLION SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT BOY, WE CAN REALLY USE THOSE TOWNHOMES.
THAT'S WHY I'M DRIVING THIS HARD MINIMUM ALLOCATION OF 5%, MAXIMUM 20%.
SO THE MORE SINGLE FAMILY TOTAL THAT THEY BUILD, THE MORE TOWNHOMES THAN HAVE TO COME IN WITH THAT.
I DID HAVE, I WANTED TO SAY ONE MORE THING.
I DO SPEAK ABOUT THE R THREE, THREE AND THE TOWNHOMES.
IT IS JUST SOUTH OF WHERE THE
AND IT IS PART OF THE RNA PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE GENTLEMAN WHO YOU JUST WALKED UP AND SPOKE, HE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
IT'S SO WELL GOING ALONG WITH THAT, UM, THE RNA IT'S 256 ACRES TO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED ARE ONE A, SO ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY, ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY IN THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE ZONED R ONE A, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE MOST, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS LOOKING AT THE PLANS WRONG.
MOST OF IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS ACTUALLY ATTACHED.
SO WE'RE JUST GROUPING IT ALL TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH, OR ARE THEY ALL ACTUALLY ATTACHED HOMES? NO.
THEN IF THEY'RE NOT ALL ATTACHED TO WHY, WHY NOT HAVE DIFFERENT ZONINGS INSTEAD OF JUST CALLING EVERYTHING RNA, UM, IT'S IT'S FRONT, WELL, FROM A REGULATORY STANDPOINT, WHEN STAFF'S LOOKING AT IT, WHEN THE DEVELOPER'S LOOKING AT IT, IT'S, UH, FROM AN EASE OF KEEPING IT ONE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, GETTING IT ON A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED AND DETACHED, THE 35 FOOTERS UP TO FIFTIES AND SIXTIES, UM, YOU CAN BUILD ALL THOSE IN THERE AND THE WAY THE CODE, THE WAY THEY'RE EDITING THEIR ROLE IN, WITHIN THE POD, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE.
SO THAT WAY THERE IS, THEY CAN LOOK AT IT FROM ONE ZONING PERSPECTIVE AND THEN THEY CAN GO REFERENCE THE ZONING STANDARD IS OKAY.
CAUSE YEAH, I'M WITH I'M WITH THE CHAIRPERSON.
I'M JUST, UM, YEAH, ACTUALLY I VERY MUCH LIKE WHAT I'VE SEEN ABOUT THIS PROJECT, JUST THE ZONING ITSELF DOES WORRY ME BECAUSE THINGS DON'T ALWAYS PAN OUT THE WAY THEY ARE PRESENTED AT FIRST AND THE WAY WE'RE ZONING.
SORRY, IF I MAY, WELL, WOULD YOU MIND PULLING UP THAT, THAT A POD STANDARDS TABLE THAT OUTLINES KIND OF THE MINIMUM OF MAXIMUM USES WITHIN EACH DISTRICT, PRIMARILY THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, BECAUSE THOSE YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT IS OUR ONE A AS AN OVERALL ZONING, BUT WE ARE WITHIN THE PUDGE STANDARDS REQUIRED FOR A MINIMUM, FOR CERTAIN HOUSING TYPE POLICIES AND A MAX AS WELL.
SO LIKE CHRIS MENTIONED BEFORE ON THE TOWNHOUSE PRODUCT WHERE WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF FIVE AND A MAX OF 20, IT'S THE SAME THING WITH
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EACH DIFFERENT CATEGORY.SO IT'S KIND OF OUTLINED IN THAT.
UM, THIS BRINGS UP A QUESTION ON THE SETBACK.
IT SAYS A TOWNHOME PATIO HOME HAS A 10 FOOT SETBACK.
SO, UM, AND 12 FOOT, UM, PARKING SPACES.
WHAT IS THE SIZE OF YOUR PARKING SPACE OR STREETS PARKING SPACES? SO ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING GARAGES IN THESE TOWNHOMES BECAUSE 10 FEET IS NOT A PARKING SPACE? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT GARAGES OR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE GARAGES ARE REQUIRED.
BUT IF WE DO PROVIDE A GARAGE, I THINK WE HAVE LISTED A 400 SQUARE FOOT, RIGHT.
AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED, BUT THE PARKING SPACE IS REQUIRED NINE BY 18 AND A HALF FEET.
SO, UH, WE INTEND AS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE ON STREET PARKING AS WELL AS PARKING WITHIN DRIVEWAYS.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING WORSE IN MY OPINION THAN A CAR THAT'S GOING TO STICK OUT IN A SIDEWALK AND A COMMUNITY THAT'S MEANT TO BE WALKABLE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR INTENT, UH, THERE NOW, IF WE HAVE A GARAGE IN THE FRONT AND THERE'S THERE'S ROOM FOR A CAR TO PARK WITHIN THE GARAGE AND THAT 10 FOOT SEPARATION IS ENOUGH FOR THAT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE MOVING SLOWLY AND, AND VEHICLES WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO PARKING ON STREET IS, IS A, IS A WAY TO KIND OF FACILITATE THAT AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WALK ON THE SIDEWALKS AND LOOP OF DRIVING AT HIGH SPEEDS.
AND, AND, AND, UH, AND APOLOGIES, BUT THE, UH, AND THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT, WE, WE WILL HAVE THE GARAGES AND THE REAR, SO THEY'RE ALL REAR LOADED.
SO THERE'LL BE A NINE BY 18 AND A HALF FOOT PARKING SPACE, SOMEWHERE IN A GARAGE FOR EVERYBODY'S PICKUP TRUCK.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S IN THE GARAGE OR IN A DRIVEWAY.
I WANT OFF STREET, BIG ENOUGH FOR SOMEBODY TO PICK UP TRUCK.
IT'S TOUGH TO, UH, IT'S TOUGH TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF DRIVE PLANNING OF, OF HOUSING, PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, MORE DENSE SORT OF HOUSING THAT'S MEANT TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, DRIVING A WALKABLE COMMUNITY TO, TO, TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, PICKUP TRUCKS, UM, DRIVE THAT RATHER THAN THE HOUSING TYPOLOGY PICK THE, YOU KNOW, DRIVE THE CAR THAT YOU PICK.
BUT, UM, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN TO THAT.
I AGREE, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M LIVING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND I DON'T WANT TO RECREATE THAT IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT CREATES A LOT OF CONTENTION AND TENSION WITHIN A COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF COMMUNITY YOU WANT TO CREATE.
AND WHAT ARE, HOW WIDE ARE YOUR STREETS SINCE YOU'RE WANTING ON STREET PARKING? HOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT, HOW WIDE ARE THE STREETS? SO 50 FOOT WRITEAWAYS CHRIS, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS IN MORE DETAIL, BUT THOSE ARE ALL WITHIN THE PUTT STANDARDS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH.
SO 70 FOOT COLLECTOR, 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY IN THE LOCAL STREETS.
AND JUST CLARIFYING THE TOWN HOMES.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE OUTMODED.
SO THEY WON'T BE ON STREET PARKING STRICTLY ON SPEED ON THE STREET.
IF SOMEBODY IS PARKING IN A DRY WAY AND CAN'T FIT THEIR GIGANTIC TRUCK IN THE DRIVEWAY, IT'S BOOKING ENTITY, NOT ACTUALLY INTO YOUR SIDEWALKS, WE CAN'T HEAR WHAT'S BEING SAID, AND THEY STEPPED UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
THE TOWNHOMES ARE ALLEY LOADED.
SO THEY'RE LOADED FROM THE REAR.
SO IN MOST CASES, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A GARAGE, BUT IF THEY DON'T, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARKED INTO A DRIVEWAY OFF OF AN ALLEY NON OFF OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY FRINGES.
SO NOBODY'S GOING TO BE PULLING OUT INTO THOSE SIDEWALKS ARE KIND OF WALKABLE AREAS, BUT THEY WILL HAVE A PARKING SPACE THAT THERE, YES, THERE WILL BE ROOM TO PARK, REGARDLESS.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT DRIVEN FOR GARAGES, BUT GOOD QUALITY PARKING SPIT OFF STREET, PARKING SPACES ARE IMPORTANT.
UM, AND JUST TO KIND OF GO INTO DETAIL ON WHAT YOU'D ASKED ABOUT, AS FAR AS THE TREATMENTS, IT'S 50 FEET RIGHT AWAY.
UM, THEY VARY, I THINK 26 FEET IS THE MINIMUM, PROBABLY 28 FEET OF PAVEMENT IN MOST CASES.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF 60 FOOT SORT OF, UH, COLLECTOR ROADS.
UM, AND THEN GRISTMILL OBVIOUSLY IS 70 FEET BEING THE MAIN ARTERIAL COMING THROUGH THERE.
NOW WEALTH FOR THE 26 FOOT STREETS.
IF PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, IS THAT LEGAL FOR PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THOSE STREETS? NO.
SO IF IT GETS BELOW 32 FEET, UH, FACE THE CURB, THE FACE OF CURB, UM, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LIMITS THAT TO ONE SIDE APART.
ONCE I PARKING THAT WAY, THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT ACCESS TO GET A FIRE TRUCK DOWN THERE.
OUR MINIMUM RIGHT NOW IS 28 ANYWAY, UM, IN OUR SUBDIVISION CODE.
SO THEN STAY, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, SECTION FOUR D THAT'S SHOWING IT WITH A 28 FEET MINIMUM AND THAT'S COMPLIANT WITH OUR CODE ALREADY.
THEN THEY DEFINITELY NEED OFF STREET PARKING.
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YEAH.SO ALL THE TOWN HOMES HAVE A 400 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE.
THAT MAKES ME FEEL HAPPY RIGHT THERE.
UM, I NOTICED THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON THERE.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SELLING POINT.
UM, HOW'S THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CODIFIED WITHIN THE ZONING TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.
ARE WE ABLE TO, AND FORGIVE ME FOR NOT KNOWING THE ANSWER AND WE'LL MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, WHAT'S ZONING IS REQUIRED FOR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COME BACK LATER AND DEAL WITH HER HOW'S THAT PLANNED ON HAPPENING? SO IT'S A, IT'S A TWO-PRONGED QUESTION.
THE FIRST FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, IT WOULD FALL UNDER THE FEDERAL LAW OR LOOMPA WHERE, UM, RELIGIOUS LAND USE AND INSTITUTION WILL ACT.
IF YOU, IF NOT, UM, THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH GO IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT.
THEY WANT, UM, WHATEVER ZONING DISTRICT I GO IN, THEY HAVE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THOSE CODES.
UM, SO IT'S SCHOOL DISTRICTS CAN GO WHERE THEY WANT.
YOU'LL SEE YOU LOOK AT A ZONING MAP AND THEN YOU PUT THE, WHERE THE, THE EXISTING SCHOOLS ARE IN CITY OF KYLE THERE'S.
THERE'S A SCHOOL THAT HAS WAREHOUSES THERE'S SCHOOLS THAT HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL ZONINGS OR SOME THAT HAVE PROBABLY ONE, AT LEAST AS COMMERCIALS.
SO THEY, THEY, THEY WANT THE KIND OF EXEMPT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE FROM WHICH ZONING DISTRICT THEY CAN GO.
AND IF YOU WILL, UM, I DO NEED TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE CODE FOR WHICH ONE THEY DO GO INTO IF YOU WILL.
SO THE OTHER SIDE OF IT IS, UM, ON THE PRIVATE SIDE BETWEEN THE, IF THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO WORK OUT BETWEEN WHERE THE CONTRACT WITH THEM IN TERMS OF WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, PUT THE, UH, GIVE THE LAND OVER TO THE, TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, IF, HOW QUICKLY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT EXPECTS TO HAVE A SCHOOL BUILT, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TO FUND IT ALSO IN A BOND PACKAGE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD IN TERMS OF WHEN THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO GO THERE.
AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A GRAY AREA.
SO JUST, JUST TO ADD TO THAT SECTION THREE C IN THE PUD.
SO REMEMBER THE PUZZLES, THEIR BIBLE, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW WHAT'S IN THE PUD, UH, IN THE POD.
IT STATES THAT THEY SHALL NOT MAY OR CAN, OR PROBABLY IT DOES SAY THAT THEY SHALL A RESERVE, AN 11 ACRE SITE SCHOOL SITE.
WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TOWN SQUARE LAND USE AREA, WHEN I LOOK AT THE USES THAT I GO TO ITEM FOUR, IT TALKS ABOUT OUTDOOR LIVE ACOUSTIC MUSIC AND AMPLIFIED SOUND.
WHY ARE WE SPECIFYING ALREADY BEFORE 11:00 PM ON WEEK NIGHTS AND 10:00 PM WEEKDAYS? LIKE, WHY IS THAT NECESSARY TO THE PUD? I'M LOOKING AT THE DEAL REAL QUICK, THAT PUTS SENIORS.
UM, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT AS FOR, TO HELP PROVIDE ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS TO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE SOME EVENTS, SOME LIVE MUSIC, AND WHAT HAVE YOU TO DRAW CROWDS TO THE COMMERCIAL AREAS IN THAT TOWN CENTER FIELD.
UM, COULD WE DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO SPECIFY ALREADY BEFORE 11:00 PM ON A WEEK NIGHTS AND BEFORE 10:00 PM ON WEEKDAYS.
AND ALSO IF THIS IS RELATED TO SOMETHING ELSE IN THE CITY, WOULDN'T THAT ALREADY COVER THE PUD? CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS KIND OF RESTRICTIVE FOR NO REASON.
SO FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU CAN HAVE UNAMPLIFIED MUSIC OUTDOOR, UM, USES LIKE THAT, UM, WITHIN THE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OTHER OUTDOOR USES.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS IN HERE, UM, AS WELL IN TERMS SO THEY CAN ALREADY HAVE IT ON ACTIVE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO OUT AND GET SPECIAL PERMISSION FOR IT.
ANYONE ELSE WHAT'S YOUR, UH, LOCK COUNT WITH THE CURRENT MIX OR YOUR, YOUR DOORS? WHAT ARE YOUR DOORS? NOT, NOT INCLUDING MULTI-FAMILY YOUR HIGH END? I'M SORRY.
WAIT FOR WILLING TO ANSWER 1,008.
BASED ON THE LAND PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED, CORRECT?
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YEAH.AND JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW THAT THE LANE PLAN, THE PUD STANDARD STILL BE PART OF THE ORDINANCE AS BACKUP MATERIAL, UM, FOR WHEN THE ORDINANCE, IF IT'S PASSED.
SO THERE WILL BE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REFERENCE THAT AS WELL AS SIDE OF IT.
THE I'M ASSUMING AT MAX UNIT COUNT, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE FOOT IN THERE FOR THE, FOR THE LAND.
I THINK TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF THE PUD STANDARDS, THERE'S A MAX DENSITY ALLOWED WITH IT WITHIN EACH SORT OF DISTRICT, IF YOU WILL.
I JUST DON'T SEE A MAX NUMBER ON HERE.
GRANTED, I'M LOOKING AT IT ON A CELL PHONE.
SO, SO IT'S BROKEN DOWN WITH EACH USE, RIGHT? SO C3 FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, YOU LAND USE AREA.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO THE MULTIFAMILY, THERE'S AT THE MAX DENSITY THERE AS WELL.
THE SAME THING FOR RETAIL SERVICES OR RETAIL SERVICES.
I GUESS A FOLLOW-UP TO, THAT WOULD BE, IF THIS IS KIND OF WITHIN A BOUNDS, HOW HIGH OR LOW IN COMPARED TO THE BALANCE, IS IT BECAUSE I LOOKING AT SECTION FIVE PHASING WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT WHEN YOU CAN BUILD OR WHEN YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE TOWN SQUARE LAND USE AREA.
AND MY CONCERN IS IF ANYTHING EVER DROPS BELOW 800, UM, LIKE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY, WOULD YOU EVER HAVE TO GO EITHER, IF THERE'S EVER ANY REASON WHERE SOMETHING HAPPENS, WHERE YOU WOULD ESSENTIALLY HAVE PROMISED, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THESE, UH, NICE HOMES AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD THIS NICE TOWN CENTER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THINGS, THE ECONOMIC AND ECONOMIC SITUATION CHANGES.
IT'S NOT VIABLE YOU, DON'T NOT BEING ABLE TO DO IT NECESSARILY.
AND THEN IT JUST DOESN'T GET BUILT IN THAT AREA.
OR WE CONVERT THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY INTO SMALL, TO LARGER LOTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND KEEP IT ALL RESIDENTIAL.
HOW DO WE AVOID THAT? UH, I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT PHASING IS, IS TO GIVE US SOME SORT OF, TO GIVE YOU GUYS, FRANKLY, SOME SORT OF CONTROL WHERE WE CAN'T BUILD, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T JUST CONVERT THE ENTIRE THING TO SINGLE FAMILY AND BUILD 1500 LOTS.
RIGHT? SO IF WE GET OVER THAT 800, THEN WE HAVE, THEN YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BUILD THE TOWN SQUARE.
TO BUILD THAT AS THE CENTER OF THE COMMUNITY TO START WITH.
BUT TO YOUR POINT MARKET CONDITIONS ARE OF COURSE GOING TO DRIVE THAT AND WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN FINANCE IT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE ZONING FOR THE TOWN CENTER, UM, DOESN'T ALLOW FOR EVEN WITHIN THE BUDGET, DOESN'T ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, THE COUNSELOR IS THE RS, THE RETAIL SERVICES BASED ZONING.
UM, SO FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THAT OVER TO SINGLE FAMILY, OR EVEN WANT TO BUILD THAT AS SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR THEY'LL WANT TO DO, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO GET AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING BEFORE THEY COULD BE THAT ANYTHING ELSE, ANYONE ELSE ARE WE SURE.
NOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S COMING NEXT.
WE APPROVE ITEM SIX A AS WRITTEN I SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES.
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS IN EAST.
I THINK EAST KYLE SPECIFICALLY IS SOMETIMES PASSOVER WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN THINGS.
AND SO DEFINITELY SEEING THIS, SEEING IT PART OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM IS A VERY POSITIVE THING FOR OUR FUTURE.
ANYONE ELSE? NO, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
UNANIMOUSLY ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
UH, BEFORE I GO ON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ANSWERING ALL OUR QUESTIONS AND THE PRESENTATION WAS VERY GOOD.
[A.
Consider a request to construct an approximately 7,620 square foot convenience store, associated fuel pumps & canopy and a 3,900 square foot carwash for property located at 1805 W. FM 150 within the Rebel Drive Overlay District. (Old Stagecoach C-Store - CUP-21-0032)
]A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT AND APPROXIMATELY 7,620 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE ASSOCIATED, FUEL PUMPS AND CANOPY AND A 3,900 SQUARE FOOT CARWASH FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1805 WEST FM, ONE 50 WITHIN THE REBEL DRIVE OVERLAY DISTRICT OLD STAGECOACH, SEE STORE CUP 21 DASH 0 0 3 2.
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MR. ATKINSON ON NOBODY'S HERE.SO BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE THE OLD, A C STORE, A FUEL STATION.
NOW WE'LL SEE STORE OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, SEASTAR FUEL STATION AS WELL.
WE'RE, WE'RE REFERRING TO THE CPS.
UM, AND IT'S, UH, AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, IT'S A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH A FIELD STATION AND THEY ALSO HAVE A THERE A PROPOSED CARWASH ON THE SAME SITE.
IT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF OLD STATE CHURCH ROAD AND A REBEL, NOT REVEL DRUNK ANYMORE, UH, VETERANS DRIVE.
SO EXCUSE ME, UH, I'LL PULL UP THE HERE JUST A MOMENT.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A REFERENCE POINT.
UM, UH, MICHELLE HAD SAID THAT STATED IT'S APPROXIMATELY 7,600 SQUARE FEET FOR THE CONVENIENCE STORE FEEL UPON CANOPY AND A 3,900 SQUARE FOOT CARWASH.
IT'S ON APPROXIMATELY 2.6, SEVEN ACRES OF LOT ONE BLOCKADE, FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
UH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES SUCH AS CANOPIES WINDOWS, UH, SOME INCH OF SIDING, STUCCO AND BRICK FUNNIER, UM, COMPLETING THE EXTERIOR FACADE, UH, RIGHT HERE IN THE HIGHLIGHTED BLUE AREAS WHERE, UM, AS THE LOT THAT THEY HAVE, UH, WHENEVER MOST OF Y'ALL KNOW THIS, UM, BELIEVER IS ALREADY THAT'S ON THE DYESS HAS DEALT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THIS MANNER BEFORE WE HAVE SEVERAL POTENTIALLY SEVEN OVERLAY DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE, UM, UH, WITH THE OTHER FIVE OVERLAY HAVING THE ONE WITH SPECIFIC, UM, FACADE REQUIREMENTS.
BUT EVERYONE STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITHIN IT, EVEN IF THERE'S NO STANDARDS.
SO, UH, THE BASE STANDARD THAT THE MINIMUM THAT I TRIED TO PULL FROM IN THIS CASE IN THE REBEL DRIVE OVERLAY, UM, IS FOR, UM, THE SECTION OF RETAIL, THE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT, UH, FOR SECTION 53 DASH 43, WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FACADES, YOU KNOW, FACING THE RIGHT AWAY, HAVING TO HAVE, UH, A MASONRY VENEER AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND TRIED TO PUSH IT FROM THERE AS MUCH AS WE COULD, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT, WE WANT EVERY DEVELOPMENT IN KYLE TO HAVE THE BEST DESIGN WE POSSIBLY CAN.
UM, BUT TECHNICALLY THIS IS COMPLIANT.
UM, LET ME PULL UP THE EXTERIOR RENDERINGS REAL QUICK.
SO BEFORE YOU RIGHT HERE, THIS IS A, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UH, THIS IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING FROM A VETERAN STRIVE, UH, IT'S A MIX OF A FIBER CEMENT BOARD WITH, UH, UM, ARCHITECTURAL BLOCKS.
YOU HAVE, UH, SOME BRICK VENEER ON IT, ILLUMINATING CANOPY, AND, UM, THEY'RE GOING OUT THERE.
IT'S NOT JUST A SQUARE BUILDING.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS ON IT, ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
AND SO THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND TO BRING SOMETHING ATTRACTIVE TO THE CITY OF KYLE OVER HERE, YOU HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING RIGHT HERE ON THE REAR.
SHE HAS RIGHT HERE, THIS SIDE IS FACING AWAY FROM ANY RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THERE'S BUS ARCHITECT REACHES ON IT, BUT STILL HAVE SOME.
AND THEN OVER HERE IS THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE FACE OF THE BUILDING.
THERE'S A DIRECTOR WRAPPED AROUND THE SIDE.
UM, I WILL SAY THIS AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT HERE IN A MOMENT.
UM, BUT, UH, AND, UM, TRYING TO GET THE, THIS ALL WRAPPED UP, WE DID FORGET TO COORDINATE WITH DOING THE, UH, FUEL CANOPY AS PART OF THE REVIEW.
UM, SO I WILL ASK THAT IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH THE DEVELOPER TO, UM, BRING FORWARD OR FIGURE OUT A COMPLIANT AND BETTER FUEL CANOPY THAN THAT, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM, UM, WITH, WITH SAP BEING ABLE TO APPROVE IT.
BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT HERE IN JUST A MOMENT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
AND HERE'S THE CARWASH DESIGN.
IT SHOWS THAT THE GENERAL LAYOUT, IT HAS A LOT OF SIMILAR FEATURES FROM, UH, FROM THE, UH, FACADE PERSPECTIVE OF THE, UH, THE C STORE.
AND IT HAS SOME CANOPIES FOR WHENEVER YOU PARK TO, YOU KNOW, TO DETAIL YOUR VEHICLE AS WELL.
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AND IT IS COMPLIANT.THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
UM, THEY DO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED FROM THAT SECTION IN THE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THEN I WILL SHOW THE SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPE AS WELL, LANDSCAPE PLANNER.
SO RIGHT HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
UM, THE F-150 AT THE TOP, THE STAGECOACH ROAD AT THE BOTTOM, WE'VE GOT THE C STORE, THE GAS PUMPS, AND THEY HAVE A CONNECTIVITY TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE NORTH OR PLAIN LEFT, IF YOU WILL, A PROPERTY TO THE WEST OR, OR PLAYING SOUTH IS ACTUALLY NOT ZONED FOR RETAIL.
SO WE DON'T REQUIRE ACTION OR CONDUCTIVITY.
AND RIGHT HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, UM, SHOWING ALL OF THEIR PROPOSED LINES GAPING.
THEY PRESERVED A FEW TREES AS WELL.
UM, GOING BACK TO THE, UH, AGAIN, BACK TO FUEL CANOPY, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEITHER ONE OF US PICKED UP ON AND I APOLOGIZE GUYS, UH, FROM BOTH THE APPLICANT AND MYSELF, IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH IT.
UM, I PLANNED TO ASK THEM TO, UM, TO ADD TO YOU, USUALLY WHAT WE DO IS ON THE POLES, HOLDING THE CANOPY UP, WE MAKE THEM ADD, UH, SOME SORT OF MASONRY FACADE THAT HAS, UH, SOME OF THE SAME MATERIALS THAT THE BUILDING HAS.
SO IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE PERMISSION TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE.
UM, I CANOPY THAT MATCHES THE TWO OTHER BUILDINGS, BUT OTHERWISE THIS IS COMPLIANT.
UM, IT MEETS AND EXCEEDS THE, UM, THE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT AND THE, UH, THE RAILROAD OVERLAY REQUIREMENTS.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T KNOW IF IT APPLIES, BUT I DON'T SEE SIDEWALKS OR CAN YOU POINT THEM OUT TO ME REAL QUICK? JUST WANT TO SURE.
SO LET ME ANNOTATE HERE RIGHT HERE IS A SIDEWALK.
SO YOU GET TO SEE MY SCRIBBLES HERE IS A CROSS BLOCK OVER THERE COMES AROUND AND THEY ONLY NEED TO BUILD TO THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT THERE'S ONE THAT COMES IN HERE.
THERE'S ONE THAT COMES OVER HERE TO THE BUILDING FOR THE CARWASH, AND THEY HAVE A CONNECTION POINT THAT KIND OF CONNECTS IT ALL AS WELL.
AND I GUESS THAT ROADWAY, THERE HAS BEEN KIND OF DONE IN MIND WITH WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING RIGHT NOW AND OLD STAGECOACH.
THERE MIGHT BE A FEW REVISIONS, BUT RIGHT ON THE INTERSECTION, UM, THAT, THAT SHOULD STAY IN PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT.
NOW, FOR THE FURTHER YOU GO WEST ON OLD STAGECOACH ROAD, THERE, THERE MIGHT BE PLANS LATER ON FOR HIM, THE CITY TO REALIGN THE ROAD.
BUT THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION, THAT THE CLOSER IT IS TO TRUE, BASED ON THEIR CLAIMS, BUT NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE MATERIALLY AFFECT ANY OF THIS STUFF WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE TODAY.
I GUESS EVEN IF IT HAD MOVED AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE TRASH CANS ARE IN A GOOD SPOT TO GOOD WORK.
WE'LL UM, IF WE DO A MOTION ON THIS, DO WE HAVE TO, SHOULD WE, WE SHOULD, I GUESS INCLUDE THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE FUEL PUMPS.
YES, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A, THIS SAME SIMILAR CLOUDING ON THE, ON THE POLES FOR THE FUEL PUMPS AT THE SORENESS.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? YES.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED AND TO PROVIDE STAFF WITH ADMINISTRATIVE POWER TO APPROVE THE CANOPY OVER THE FUEL PUMPS.
CAN I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES.
I DON'T, I HAVE NO REASON TO NOT PROVE THIS AND I'M GOING TO PLAN TO PROVE IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE CONVENIENT SORT OF CAR WASHES ACROSS FROM ANOTHER CONVENIENCE STORE CARWASH, ESPECIALLY ON THIS ROAD.
THEY'RE LIKE, I HAVE NO REASON TO SAY NO.
SO I CAN'T SAY NO TO THIS, BUT LIKE EVERYTHING IN MY PLANNING GUT TELLS ME, THIS IS A TERRIBLE DECISION.
IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE OTHER.
WELL, HOPEFULLY THE OTHER ONE WILL BOTH SEE IT AND IMPROVE WHAT THEY'VE GOT, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MISERABLE OVER THERE RIGHT NOW.
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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.[B. Consider a request to construct an approximately 15,000 square foot Pet Paradise facility, a business that offers luxury pet boarding, grooming, day camp and veterinary care located at 2361 Kohler's Crossing within the I-35 Overlay District. (Pet Paradise - CUP-21-0034)]
B CONSIDER A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT AN APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FOOT PET PARADISE FACILITY.A BUSINESS THAT OFFERS A LUXURY PET BOARDING GROOMING DAY CAMP END VETERINARY CARE LOCATED AT 2, 3, 6 1 COLA'S CROSSING WITHIN THE
WE HAVE THE OTHER ONE FOR THE DAY, FOR THE EVENING PET PARADISE.
THE DRY RIVER DISTRICT, A CUP DASH 21 DASH SHOES FOR THREE, FOUR, OR THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD APPROXIMATELY A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, LUXURY PUB MORNING GROOMING DAY CAMP AT VETERINARY CARE FACILITY.
UM, IT'S GOING TO COMPRISE OF, UH, IT'S GONNA HAVE SOME CANOPIES WINDOWS AND STONE SPLIT-FACE TO CMU, SOME STUCK, UH, UM, IN DETAIL FEATURES AND ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES.
ARE THEY ALSO GONNA HAVE A COMBINATION OF BRICK AND METAL DECORATIVE FENCE LINE THE EAST AND NORTH SIDE OF THE FACILITY? SO THESE ARE THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FACILITY OR THE DRIVEWAY GOING OFF FOR COLORS AND THE SIDE FACING EVO.
YOU CAN SEE IT THERE ON THE BLUE SQUARE THERE RIGHT BEHIND SCHLOTZSKY'S IS ISN'T THE
SO THEY ARE, THEY ACTUALLY IS, UH, PLANS, UH, THAT THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FROM A CODE PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEY DO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT ACTUALLY.
UH, SO IT MEETS AND EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR THE
UH, SO WE ASKED THAT YOU APPROVE IT.
UM, I WILL PULL UP THE RENDERINGS AND MISSIONS HERE REAL QUICK.
YOU MEAN THE LOAD FASTER? YOU ONE SECOND.
COMPUTER'S RUNNING A BIT SLOW TONIGHT.
SO HERE IS A DECORATIVE FENCE ELEVATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT AROUND THE NORTH AND THE EAST SIDE OF THE, OF THE FACILITY.
I WILL, UM, AS SHOWN IN THE DOCUMENT, IT WILL, UM, BE AN OUTER FENCE TO AN INNER SECURITY FENCE TO HELP KIND OF, UH, SHIELD THE, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT AILEEN IS FOR THE SECURITY FENCE, BUT, UM, THEY HAD TOLD ME THAT DOG ANIMALS CAN GET OUT OF THE DECORATIVE FRANCES, AND THEY LIKE TO HAVE A SECURITY ONE ON THE INSIDE.
SO IT KIND OF SHIELDS THAT TO SOME EXTENT IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PRETTY ALL RIGHT HERE, YOU SEE THE GENERAL LAYOUT WOULD FACE A COLOR'S CROSSING.
THEY CAN DRIVE UNDER AND DROP YOUR DOG OFF.
AND THERE'S ABILITIES INTERNAL.
THERE'S A DOCK, THERE'S LITTLE POOLS AND LITTLE OUTDOOR AREAS FOR THEM TO PLAY.
AND THERE'S CANDLES WRAPPING AROUND IT.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE BUILDING, IT HAS THE STONE WATER TABLE AND COLUMNS.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STUCCO AT THE TOP OF IT WHERE THE SIGNS CAN BE THE LITTLE DOG BONE SIGN.
UM, BUT ONLY IN, UP IN THAT LITTLE AREA, THE REST OF IT'S GOING TO BE A CMU.
SO I SHOWED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THESE GUYS HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND.
UM, I HAVE NO CONCEPT OF WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO AND, UM, IN MY OPINION, IT CAN BE APPROVED WITHOUT, WITHOUT PERMISSION.
UM, BUT DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YOU GO, UM, YEAH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN.
AND I HAVE BEEN A USER OF DOG DOGGY DAYCARE AND DOGGY BOARDING FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, MY QUESTION IS MOST OF THEM THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, PARTICULARLY IN A MORE URBANIZED AREA, THE EXTERIOR PENS ARE NOT QUITE AS EXPOSED TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
AND I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
LIKE IF THERE WAS A RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE WANTED TO SIT OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, HOW WAS THAT SOUND OF BARKING DOGS GOING TO BE BUFFERED FROM THE, PROBABLY BY THE 14, 18 WHEELERS HAS ALWAYS PARKED AROUND THERE.
I'M SAYING EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW,
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SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT WANT TO BE WELL, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN A SECOND, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP A RESTAURANT OR, OR WHATEVER KIND OF BUSINESS, IF THIS IS ALREADY THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO RIGHT.YOU KNOW, SO YOU MAY THINK TWICE SOMETHING ELSE MORE APPROPRIATE, MORE ALL INDOOR OR WHATEVER WOULD BE THERE THAT YOU WOULDN'T HEAR IT.
I JUST SAY, AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE 18 WHEELERS.
SO, AND I CALL THIS CROSSING IS A PRETTY NOISY, UM, INTERSECTION, TO BE HONEST, RIGHT THERE.
UM, THEY USE IS ALLOWED, UM, IN, IN RETAIL SERVICES, UH, DOG ROOM, DOG KENNELS, UH, NEREUS PHARMACISTS.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH WANTING TO DO SO TO BE HONEST, THAT QUESTION DIDN'T HAVE SOME POPPED UP IN ANY CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH THEM.
WHAT ABOUT CATS? NAM? WHAT ABOUT CATS? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
WHAT IF I HAVE A PET PARAKEET AND I WANT TO BOARD IT THERE.
IT DOES SAY PET PARADISE, STUMPED THEM.
I WOULD, I, OF ALL PEOPLE WOULD ASK ABOUT CATS.
YOU HAD TO KNOW THAT DEBBIE PAID ME TO ASK THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
NOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I NEED, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MADAM CHAIR.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PRESENTED.
CAN I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[A. Discussion only regarding Planning and Zoning Commission request for future agenda items.
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ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA TO MAKE WHEEL CRAZY? NOTHING A, I GUESS.
SO, UH, IT'S A SEVEN EIGHT MADE ME THINK OF A QUESTION.
CAN THAT BE CHANGED? AND IS THAT, IS THAT GOING TO BE CHANGED? IT'S SOMETHING WE DIDN'T CATCH UNTIL HONESTLY UNTIL THIS, SEE IF HE CAME UP.
UM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW VETERAN'S DRIVE.
AND IT'S POLICIES, THE SAME BOUNDARIES.
SO IT'S REALLY, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THEY'RE ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT WIDER THAN THE DRIVE, BUT, UM, I THINK YES, FROM A, FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, IT PROBABLY DOESN'T TO CHANGED.
I'LL, I'LL BE JUST ALL, I'LL DISCUSS THAT WITH PEOPLE THAN ME.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE FUTURE AGENDAS? NO.
[A. Staff Report by William Atkinson, City Planner.]
NINE, STAFF REPORT STAFF REPORT BY WILLIAM ATKINSON, CITY PLANNER, MR. ATKINSON.SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LIST HERE, WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, MAYBE I DIDN'T, MAYBE I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT IT, UM, AS MOST, IF NOT, ALL OF YOU ALREADY KNOW, UM, MR. COONS, UH, HIS LAST DAY WAS ON SEPTEMBER THE 10TH, WHICH WAS LAST FRIDAY.
HE'S NOW THE, UH, PLANNING DIRECTOR OVER AT DRIPPING SPRINGS.
UM, SO HE WILL NOT BE ATTENDING MEETINGS ANYMORE AS A STAFF MEMBER.
I MEAN, MAYBE HE'LL WANT TO SHOW UP ONE OF THESE DAYS WHO KNOWS, BUT, UH, AS A MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE, SO HE, UH, FOR THE TIME BEING, UH, DUTIES ARE BEING SPLIT BETWEEN MYSELF AND JAMES AARP, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UM, I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN WITH ACTUALLY I'M BACKING DEBBIE UP WITH, UH, KEY, UH, PERMITS MOVING FORWARD.
UM, SHE'S, SHE'S REALLY THE, THE PERSON KEEPS THEM MOVING.
UM, BUT, UH, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THINGS COMING FORWARD.
AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND IN THE MEANTIME, BEFORE WE, UNTIL WE HIRE ANOTHER PLANTING DIRECTOR, UM, I THINK, UM, OUR INTERVIEW ALL INTERESTED IN GOING TO THE, UM, THE APA CONFERENCE THIS FALL SURE.
VIRTUALLY OR IN VIRTUALLY IT WOULD BE GREAT.
UH, DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS THEY'RE OFFERING? UH, IT'S IN FORT WORTH, IF YOU WANT TO GO, UM, OR THEY'RE OFFERING IT VIRTUALLY IF IT'S MORE MEANINGFUL TO YOU BECAUSE
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YOU KNOW, THE PANDEMIC SHALL GO ON AND WHAT HAVE YOU.UM, SO WHAT I CAN DO, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, LET US KNOW, SHOOT US AN EMAIL, UM, THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING, WHETHER IN PERSON OR VIRTUAL AND I'LL COORDINATE WITH, UH, JAMES TO SEE WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE, UH, UH, FOR COVERING COSTS ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, BUT, UM, IF IT'S ANYTHING LIKE YEARS PAST, UM, MULTIPLE WE'LL FIGURE OUT, UM, WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR, UH, COVERING COSTS.
UM, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG THINGS I HAVE HAD.
UM, WE'RE STILL COORDINATING BETWEEN ADMINISTRATION COMMUNICATIONS AND, UM, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS, THE, UH, OUR PLAN AMENDMENT AND FIGURING OUT THE DETAILS OF THAT, MOVING IT FORWARD.
SO, UH, I KNOW IT KEEPS SEEMING LIKE SEEMINGLY BEING DELAYED, BUT THINGS KEEP POPPING UP.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE MOVING IT FORWARD IN THE CORRECT PATH THOUGH.
SO WE'LL BE FIGURING OUT THOSE DETAILS SOONER THAN LATER.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ATKINSON? YEAH, I KIND OF CURIOUS WHEN'S MY LAST DAY.
UM, ARE YOU GUYS YOUR, YOUR LAST DAY IS WHEN THEY GET A REPLACEMENT? OKAY.
IT'S WHEN THEY GET, WHEN THEY GET A REPLACEMENT, IT SAYS NINE 30, BUT YOU, ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER, YOU ARE SEATED UNTIL A REPLACEMENT IS FOUND AND THEN YOU DISAPPEAR.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, UM, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE TOO MUCH OF AN ANSWER FOR THIS, BUT LIKE WHAT BEST CAN WE DO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AS A BOARD TO MAKE SURE YOUR TRANSITIONS ARE AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE? LIKE, DON'T ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS.
I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE ASK, EVEN IF I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, I'D RATHER PEOPLE BE CURIOUS ABOUT, UM, PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, WHETHER IT BE ZONING OR PLOTTING OR, UM, SITE PLANS, THE OCCASIONAL, WHEN IT COMES TO TLC, IF HE'S, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING OVER THE WEEKEND WHILE YOU'RE REVIEWING, UM, THE, UH, THE AGENDA THAT, UM, IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA, OR YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT AND EMAIL US.
UM, CAUSE SOMETIMES IT HELPS A LITTLE BIT TO HAVE BE ABLE TO DO A BIT OF RESEARCH TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE WE MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWER IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE MEETING.
UH, MOST OF THE TIME THAT WE TRY TO, BUT, UM, OTHERWISE JUST, UH, KEEP YOU AWESOME.
YOU'RE Y'ALL ARE FUN TO WORK WITH, SO WE APPRECIATE IT.
WELL, I HAVE SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO SAY.
I'M SURE YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE IT, BUT, UM, YOU HAVE TO SAY IT AS OF TODAY, I AM TENDERING MY RESIGNATION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, LOTS OF THOUGHT HAS GONE INTO THIS AND I CAN NO LONGER DEAL WITH THE NONSENSE THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH HERE ON THE COMMISSION.
THESE COMMISSIONERS ARE VERY DEDICATED TO THEIR WORK.
AND AS SOME OF YOU WHO WERE NOT HERE, WHEN WE DID THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT KIND OF PUSHED ME OVER THE EDGE, PAUL, THOSE APP, UM, WE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE HAD A VENDOR COME IN AND THEN THE CITY TURNED EVERYTHING DOWN, SAYING THEY KNEW THEY WERE DOING A BETTER JOB THAN ANYBODY WE COULD BRING IN.
SO WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST DISRESPECTFUL.
AND IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I FEEL THAT GOES BACK TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY COUNCIL, NOT TELLING US, MEETING WITH US, UM, SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS SO THAT WE KNOW BETTER HOW THEY WANT US TO PROCEED ON THINGS.
WE KIND OF FLOUNDER AND GET THINGS WRONG.
AND AGAIN, EVERYBODY HERE DOES A GREAT JOB.
THE TWO COMMISSIONERS WHO LEFT BECAUSE OF THIS NONSENSE DID A GREAT JOB.
AND I THINK IT WAS THE CITY'S PASSAGE OF THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PLAN THAT PUT ME OVER THE EDGE.
YOU KNOW, WE'D BEEN BEGGING FOR CITY, UH,
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FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.WE STARTED SOME WORK ON IT AND QUIT IT.
AND APPARENTLY THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN COMING TO US AND MEETING WITH US AND SEEKING OUR HELP OR OUR ADVISEMENT AND ASSISTANCE WITH THAT.
IT ALSO SPEAKS TO THE WAY THEY NOW I'M NOT GOING THERE.
UM, BUT I'M JUST, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I LOVE YOU ALL AND I WILL MISS THIS DESPERATELY, BUT MY SANITY IS MORE IMPORTANT.
I AM RETIRED AND THIS IS STARTING TO FEEL LIKE WORK.
AND THAT'S A FOUR-LETTER WORD TO ME THAT I CAN'T USE ANYONE.
SO I LOVE YOU ALL, BUT I'M OUT.
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS ADJOURNMENT.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION WITH A MOTION? YES.
CAN I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? NO.
SAY I NEEDED TO, I NEED TO SAY YOU'VE DONE A DAMN GOOD JOB AND I'VE BEEN REALLY, UH, HAPPY TO SERVE ALONGSIDE WITH YOU.
AND I HOPE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, YOU'LL BE BACK WHEN IT'S NOT AS MUCH A FOUR-LETTER WORD, KIND OF STUFF'S GOING ON.
WE'VE APPRECIATED EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
YOU'VE BEEN AN AMAZING CHAIRPERSON.
AND, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP ATTENDING MEETINGS ANYWAY, WHETHER THAT'S VIRTUALLY OR TO SPENDING TUESDAY NIGHT, ALMOST ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.