[I. Call Meeting to Order]
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AND EVERYONE, THE TIME IS SEVEN, 10:00 PM.
IT IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21ST.
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WOULD ALL.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
FOR ALL WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL COACH HERE.
ELLISON FLORES, KALE HERE, RIZZO BRADSHAW PRESENT.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.HAIR LIKE TO GO AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL, A SPECIAL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 7TH AND THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER.
TOBIA SECONDED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE THE MEETING MEETING MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 7TH.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
PERIOD.AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
I HAVE ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK, UH, MS. K RUSH.
WANTED TO DISCUSS THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION ON WINDY HILL.
THERE'S BEEN A WARNING SIGN ON THE ROAD THAT IT COULD BE CLOSED ON SPECIFIC DATES.
THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENT IS ALWAYS AFFECTED BY WEATHER AND IT SOMETIMES CHANGES AND TIMELINES CHANGE ON ANY PROJECT.
LAST WEDNESDAY AS I CAME HOME AT THREE 30 TO FOUR O'CLOCK I CHECK THE TRAFFIC TO SEE IF THERE WERE SIGNS ACROSS THE BRIDGE STATING THAT THE ROAD WAS CLOSED.
AS I WATCHED THE TRAFFIC, I DECIDED TO CROSS OVER THE BRIDGE AND COME UP WINDY HILL TRAFFIC WAS COMING BACK UP TOWARDS 35 IN A NORMAL FASHION.
EVERYTHING LOOKED FINE UNTIL I MADE THE TURN.
AS SOON AS I MADE THE TURN, I CAME UPON A HUGE TRAFFIC MESS.
WE HAD LARGE TRUCKS IN IT AND WE WERE TURNING AROUND ON A ONE LANE DIRT ROAD.
I, I CALLED AS I WAITED IN THIS MESS TO KYLE PD AND ASK FOR TRAFFIC ASSISTANCE.
I TALKED TO THE DISPATCHER AND EXPLAIN THE SITUATION AND WHERE I WAS AND THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF SIGNAGE.
AND IF A LARGE TRUCK, WHICH TRAVERSES WINDY HILL ON A REGULAR BASIS CAME DOWN THERE, THERE WAS NO WAY THEY COULD MAKE THE TURNAROUND.
SHE TOOK MY INFORMATION AND I WAS CALLED BACK BY A TRAFFIC OFFICER.
HE TOOK, WHEN I EXPLAINED THE SITUATION TO HIM, HE TOLD ME THAT HE NEEDED TO CONTACT THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IN ORDER TO GET ANY ASSISTANCE THERE WITH THE TRAFFIC CONTROL.
MY QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY MANAGEMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ARE YOU WORKING WITH THESE VARIOUS ROAD PROJECT PROJECT MANAGERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGNAGE IS IN PLACE, HAYES ISD SHOULD BE GETTING UPDATES SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS WITH THEIR SCHOOL BUS SCHEDULES.
THE CITIZENS OF KYLE WHO ARE ALSO THE TAXPAYERS FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS DESERVE BETTER SIGNAGE AND TRAFFIC DIRECTION.
AS THEY CONTINUE TO COMMUTE TO WORK AND DEAL WITH ALL THE ERRANDS AND DAILY LIFE.
THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL CONTINUE FOR YEARS.
AS KYLE GROWS AND DEVELOPS, I ASKED CITY LEADERSHIP TO TAKE UP THIS TASK OF MAKING TRANSPORTATION FLOW.
A PRIMARY ISSUE SINCE CITIZENS MUST TRAVERSE THESE ROADS DAILY, AS TRA AS CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES, I THINK PROPER ROAD CLOSURE SIGNS AND REDIRECTION OF TRAFFIC SHOULD BE A TOP PRIORITY WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, MAKING SURE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS AFFECTED AND THE AFFECTED PARTS OF THE CITY GET CORRECT INFORMATION AS THEY DRIVE IN THESE AREAS ON A DAILY.
THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, COMMENTS FORM MS. CHAPA
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COUNCIL MEMBERS.UM, IF I KNOW YOU MET CHAPA AND LAST MEETING KIND OF GOT REALLY UPSET WHEN I HEARD THAT CITY STAFF WAS GOING TO BE MOVING INTO THE SAFETY CENTER.
I FELT THEN I, I THINK THAT BACK IN 2018, THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY STAFF WAS GOING TO BE MOVING OFFICES DOWN TO UPTOWN.
AND THE PEOPLE CAME TO THE MEETINGS AND THIS HURT, BUT WE FELT THAT IF ANYBODY DESERVED A BUILDING, A NEW BUILDING WOULD BE THE POLICE STATION THAT THEY DESERVED.
AND I THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE KIND OF EXPECTED THAT.
HOWEVER, I WENT BACK THROUGH SOME INFORMATION GIVEN BY SOME OF THE MEMBERS AND, UM, IT HAS THE, UH, PARAGRAPH, THE LAST PARAGRAPH OF WHERE DESCRIBES OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE SAFETY CENTER.
AND IT HAS ABOUT THE, UM, ADMINISTRATION WILL BE ADMINISTERING SOME OF THE UP THROUGH THE OFFICES IN THE CENTER.
AND I FELT THAT IF ANY, IF I FELT THAT THE PEOPLE VOTED, MAYBE BECAUSE IN THE BALLOT, IT'S NOT WRITTEN THAT LAST PARAGRAPH IS NOT WRITTEN ON THE BALLOT.
AND TO ME, I FEEL IT THAT'S NOT BEING CRIED QUITE UNLESS THEY WENT TO READ THE BACKGROUND.
SO I THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S SAD THAT, THAT WE CAN LET THE, UH, POLICE BE THERE ON THEIR OWN.
I KNOW THAT IT TAKES 20 YEARS TO PROBABLY FILL UP THAT, THAT, UH, BUILDING.
BUT IN 20 YEARS, I KNOW I WON'T BE HERE AND I DON'T KNOW, Y'ALL, WON'T BE PROBABLY ON BOARD, BUT, UM, I, I'M JUST KIND OF SAD THAT, THAT, UM, IT WENT THAT WAY, BUT THERE ARE TWO CONCERNS THAT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.
EACH STAFF IS GOING INTO THOSE BUILDINGS.
IS THAT MONEY THAT'S GOING TO FURNISHING THE STAFF OFFICES IS THAT COMING FROM THE $37 MILLION.
AND ALSO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE.
I KNOW THERE WAS A SITUATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN AUSTIN, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS VERY UPSET WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH A POLICEMAN'S.
AND HE WENT AROUND KIND OF NOT SHOOTING WINDOWS AT BUSINESSES.
THINK IT WAS AROUND SIXTH STREET AND SEVENTH STREET WHERE IT, THE MAN WAS SHOOTING, BUT IT WAS LIKE TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WHERE IF WOULD HAVE BEEN DURING THE DAY, HE COULD HAVE HARMED A LOT OF WORKERS.
SO THAT'S PART OF MY CONCERN, THE COST AND THE SAFETY, THE STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
OH, CAN I NEED TO THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, JENNIFER FURNISHED THAT SOME INFORMATION THAT MR. TOBY HAS GOT FOR ME, MR. LISA LISTENED TO ME, MS. KILLED IS MR. ALISON DIDN'T KNOW WHO WROTE, WHO CALLED HIM, BUT I WAS THE ONE THAT, THAT TEXTED.
OR IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? SEEING NONE? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.
[IV. City Manager's Report]
CITY MANAGERS REPORT ERIC COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER, SCOTT SELLERS FOR THE RECORD.UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, GROUNDBREAKING, AND WE HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT WELL, THAT GETS QUEUED UP.
JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HELD THIS LAST FRIDAY, GREAT TURNOUT AND A GREAT SPEECHES.
SO WHAT AN EXCITING DAY FOR THE CITY OF KYLE AND THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS DAY FOR A LONG TIME, BECAUSE THIS DAY SYMBOLIZES THE TRUST AND THE FAITH THAT YOU HAVE IN THE MEN AND WOMEN AT THE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SERVE YOU AND SERVE OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.
WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE GREAT LEADERS THAT SAW, SAW FIT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER THAT WILL SERVE THIS COMMUNITY FOR 20 YEARS
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AND BEYOND.IT WOULD ALLOW US TO INTERACT WITH THE CITIZENS.
IT WILL ALLOW US TO IMPROVE OUR SERVICES.
IT WILL ALLOW US TO SERVE YOU BETTER.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE DURING THESE VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.
AND AS IMPORTANTLY TO THE CITIZENS, YOU ARE THE ONES THAT WENT TO THE VOTING BOXES, AND YOU SHOWED YOUR SUPPORT ON VOTING DAY.
YOU SHOWED THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE YOU, THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THEM.
AND YOU CARE ABOUT THE FACILITIES IN WHICH THEY OPERATE, BECAUSE TODAY IS THE DAY THAT THEY ACTUALLY SEE THAT IT'S HAPPENING.
THEY THEY'VE SEEN A LOT OF MEETINGS.
THEY'VE HEARD THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED A NEW PD.
TODAY IS THE DAY WHEN THEY SEE THAT DIRT MOVING AND THEY SEE THE EQUIPMENT OUT HERE THAT IT'S REALLY HAPPENING.
THIS IS HONOR TO STAND HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY ON THIS MOMENTOUS GROUNDBREAKING OF OUR NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, THE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT BEGAN FORMAL OPERATIONS IN APRIL OF 1981 IN 1996, THE CALL POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS LOCATED TO 1 0 8 SOUTH BURLESON.
IN 2001, THE COMPLEX DEPARTMENT WAS MOVED TO A LOW-CODE LOCATION AT 1 0 3 SOUTH FRONT STREET, WHICH IS NOW THE COLONY OF W IN 2003.
WE KICKED THAT CAN FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS PARTIALLY MOVED INTO THE FIRST NATIONAL BANK AT ONE 11 NORTH FRONT STREET.
EACH WAS A TEMPORARY FIX FOR AN EVER-GROWING POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE 64,000 SQUARE FOOT TWO-STORY FACILITY WITH ADEQUATE PARKING.
THIS NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER WILL HAVE HUGE BENEFITS.
YOU'LL PROVIDE BETTER ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC INCREASE RESPONSE TIMES BY BEING CENTRALLY LOCATED, I'M PROUD TO LIVE AND SERVE IN A CITY WHERE THE PUBLIC BELIEVES IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
AT THE MOST HIGH TODAY'S GROUNDBREAKING IS A NEW BEGINNING, TURNING TO PAGE AND ADDING ANOTHER CHAPTER.
OUR HISTORY BOOKS WE'D RECOGNIZE THE DEDICATION DEBT DAILY SACRIFICE OF ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR COP POLICE DEPARTMENT SWORN AND CIVILIAN STAFF, ADMINISTRATORS, COUNSELORS, POLICE DISPATCHERS, AND OUR COP PROGRAM AS WELL.
IT ALSO RECOGNIZES THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WEAR THE UNIFORM, WHO WORK WITH PRIDE AND INTEGRITY.
WE UNDERSTAND THE GOLD STANDARD OF OUR CITY, BUT MOST OF ALL, WHO TOOK THE OATH TO PROTECT AND TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND ITS PRINCIPLES.
THIS NEW FACILITY WILL BE A TESTAMENT TO THAT.
IT WILL BE THEIR NEW HOME LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THERE ARE NO GREATER HEROES INTO ONES YOU SEE HERE BEFORE YOU AND THE BLUE UNIFORMS KYLE'S PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS THE BIGGEST INVEST BUILDING.
THE CITY OF KYLE WILL HAVE EVER BUILT AT 64,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S ALMOST FOUR TIMES THE SIZE OF CITY HALL.
WHY SO BIG? WELL, KYLE IS GROWING AT FAST, FASTER THAN WE CARE TO ADMIT OR WANT TO ADMIT.
SOMETIMES OUR ONCE 5,000 RESIDENTS ARE NOW AND ALMOST BUSTLING 60,000 SEEMINGLY OVERNIGHT IN THIS MOMENT, KYLE TEXAS IS CHOOSING TO LEAVE KYLE'S PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS RAISED EXPECTATIONS.
OUR COMMUNITY IS OUR DRIVING IS DRIVING OUR FOCUS TO ACHIEVE THE BEST PUBLIC SAFETY PRACTICES.
AND THEY SUPPORT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A MANNER THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF FOR THAT WE AIM TO BE THE BEST TO ACHIEVE RAISE EXPECTATIONS.
KYLE IS LOOKING STRAIGHT INTO THE FUTURE OF OUR POLICING.
STARTING WITH THIS PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
KYLE IS LEADING BY FEVEROUSLY LEARNING HOW TO BUILD THE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ALL OF CENTRAL TEXAS.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ONE, THE CITY AS A WHOLE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR DEPARTMENT FOR FINALLY GETTING A PERMANENT HOME.
UH, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BOTH PAST AND PRESENT THAT HAVE WORKED TO GET THIS AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
IT TOOK A LOT OF ACTION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
THIS WAS A THREE-YEAR PROCESS FROM WHEN WE SAT DOWN AND SAID, WE WANTED TO GET THIS DONE TO GETTING TO THIS POINT.
AND IT IS AN AMAZING GROUP THAT I'M PROUD TO BE IN THIS CITY WITH MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, LIKE THE ONES THAT DO.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO GET A QUICK ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT SERVE AND PROTECT EVERYDAY.
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GREAT JOB GRANT, VERY WELL DONE.UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK A PRETTY LARGE TEAM TO PULL THAT WONDERFUL EVENT OFF.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO SEVERAL CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS.
OBVIOUSLY OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND CITIZENS ON PATROL VOLUNTEERS, PARKS AND RECREATION, PUBLIC WORKS, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND TRADES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HUMAN RESOURCES.
SO KUDOS TO EVERYONE THAT, THAT WORKED SO HARD IN THIS KEVIN HERNANDEZ MAYOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
GOOD EVENING, UH, LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
UH, WE ARE SCHEDULED STILL FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 5TH.
UH, CURRENTLY WE ONLY HAVE SIX PARTIES REGISTERED WITH, WITH OUR DEPARTMENT.
UH, TYPICALLY, UH, ON REGULAR YEARS WE HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 18 TO MID TWENTIES.
UM, SO WE ARE SEEING A LOWER NUMBER.
UM, SEVERAL AGENCIES IN HAYES COUNTY THOUGH HAVE CANCELED THEIR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
WE'RE STILL SCHEDULED TO GO, UH, HAYES, COUNTY, BUDA AND SAN MARCUS ALL HAVE DECIDED TO CANCEL HERE WITHIN THIS.
UM, JUST IN THE LAST FEW DAYS I BELIEVE IS WHEN THEY MADE THEIR DECISION.
BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW I THINK WE HAVE TWO OF THEM SCHEDULED ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN AND THEN FOUR ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND THEN THIS YEAR WE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOWN DOWNTOWN, WE WERE NOT GOING TO HAVE A, UH, DOWNTOWN, UH, BLOCK PARTY, LIKE WE HAVEN'T IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
WELL, I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR MAKING THAT BUILDING HAPPEN AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAD WORKED ON THAT GROUNDBREAKING EVENT, SO I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THAT BUILDING GO UP.
SO THANKS AGAIN, JUST REAL QUICK.
COULD WE GET A LIST OF THE LOCATIONS THERE COULD PARTICIPATE? I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE LOCATIONS, UH, THE EXACT NO, NO, SIR.
I JUST KNOW THAT TWO ARE ON THE WEST SIDE.
OFFICER PLANT, I THINK HAS THEM, BUT HE JUST PROVIDED ME A GENERAL OVERVIEW AND I KNOW TWO ON THE WEST SIDE AND FOUR ON THE SIDE, BUT WE CAN GET THOSE FOR YOU.
UM, AND THEN, UH, JUST REMINDING EVERYONE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE EVENTS THAT WE HOLD, THERE'S STILL SOCIAL DISTANCING, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO KEEP SAFE AND STILL HOLD EVENTS IS KEY.
SO LET'S JUST KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CAPTAIN HERNANDEZ, BUT I DO REALIZE THAT THIS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT FALLS ON A TUESDAY, WHICH IS A COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, NOT HAVE A FIVE O'CLOCK MEETING.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO DO SEVEN BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INVITED TO SEVERAL NATIONAL NIGHTS OUT GATHERINGS.
AND, UM, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF WE HAVE A FIVE O'CLOCK MEETING, WE TYPICALLY MOVE IT.
DON'T WE, WE TYPICALLY MOVE IT TO MONDAY NIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S HISTORICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE.
UM, MY, MY QUESTION FOR YOUR CAPTAIN WAS, UH, WAS THE TRAIN DEPOT CONSIDERED EV AT ALL TO, AS A REPLACEMENT FOR MARRIOTT HEARTS AND KYLE, OR WAS THERE SOME LOGISTICS OR SOMETHING THAT KIND OF RULED THAT OUT, PERHAPS BECAUSE I KNOW THE DOWNTOWN ONE'S ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, AN EXCITING ONE AND KIND OF DRAWS A LOT OF ATTENTION, BUT, UH, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS CONSIDERED AT ALL.
NO, WAIT, WE DID NOT CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE LOCATION FOR THAT ONE.
IS IT TOO LATE TO DO THAT? NO.
I MEAN, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
WE CAN TRY TO MAKE THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PD, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S DECENT YARD.
THEY HAVE, UH, SOME AMENITIES OUT THERE AND OKAY.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING THEN? I WOULD LOVE THAT.
SCOTT, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN CLOSE THE STREET DOWN FOR THAT EVENING FOR SCOTT SELLERS? YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'D BE NECESSARY TO SHUT THE STREET DOWN.
I MEAN, THERE'S PLENTY OF AREA IN THAT GREENSPACE THERE AND THAT, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
BACK DURING THAT YARD AREA BEHIND IT.
I KNOW WE TYPICALLY HAVE A FEW BOOTHS.
WE DON'T TYPICALLY TAKE UP ALL OF MARY HEARTS IN KYLE WHEN WE DO THAT IN THE PAST, BUT JUST AN OPTION BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS, THIS IS HUGE IN THIS COMMUNITY TYPICALLY YOU'RE RIGHT.
TYPICALLY THERE ARE PARTIES ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I'VE DONE RIDE ALONGS WITH YOU ALL IN THE PAST, TRYING TO MAKE AS MANY PARTIES AS POSSIBLE.
OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, BUT, UH, I DON'T, I WAS JUST THINKING THAT MIGHT, COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO WHAT WE DO.
WE'LL START LOOKING INTO THAT IN THE MORNING AND SEE WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THAT INVITATION EXISTS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL OUT TO Y'ALL IF Y'ALL WANT TO RIDE WITH, WITH, UH, AN OFFICER THAT EVENING, THEN WE CAN, WE CAN SCHEDULE THAT.
AND JUST REACH OUT IF Y'ALL WOULD
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REACH OUT TO OFFICER PLANT AND SEND THEM AN EMAIL REQUESTING THAT YOU'D BE PAIRED UP WITH AN OFFICER.SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO SCHEDULE IT ON A MONDAY? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, I MEAN, MARY, CORRECT ME.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
HAVEN'T WE MOVED THE MEETING TO A DIFFERENT NIGHT CAUSE I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T REMEMBER.
CAUSE I FEEL LIKE I KNOW WE'VE DONE THAT AROUND ELECTION BECAUSE ELECTIONS ARE TUESDAYS, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW WE'D DONE THAT.
IT'S WITHIN OUR ABILITY TO DO SO.
I REMEMBER GETTING THE MEETING, SORRY LATER, BUT UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF MOVING TO A MONDAY.
I'LL MOVE MY SCHEDULE AROUND IF I HAVE TO.
WELL JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I THINK WE USED TO CHANGE THAT MEETING.
AND IF I RECALL THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES, WE WE'D STILL TRY TO DO COUNCIL MEETING ON THE SAME NIGHT, UH, WHICH HAS SOMEWHAT BEEN A DISRUPTION TO THE BLOCK PARTIES.
SO IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE MEETING TO THAT MONDAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE PRECEDENTS DOING IN THE PAST.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF I SAY I CAN COME TO THESE NATIONAL NIGHT OUTS, THAT I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO.
SO I'D BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING INTO THAT MONDAY.
ARE YOU LOOKING FOR DIRECTION OR NO, THAT'S NOT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE CAN'T DO THAT DURING THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT, BUT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEND OUT SOME INFO, YOU KNOW, SEND OUT A QUESTIONNAIRE TO COUNSEL THEM.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS? SURE.
UH, SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE FOURTH DIALOGUE FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS THAT WE'RE DOING.
UH, THIS ONE IS THEMED THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
UH, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
WE HAVE A FANTASTIC PANEL, UH, THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TOPICS RELATING TO HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE PAST DIALOGUES FOR PATIENT PROGRESS, THEY ARE VERY MOVING.
THE PANELISTS REALLY CARRIED A DISCUSSION AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE HAD FROM, UH, THE IDEAS FROM PEOPLE THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T GET TO HEAR FROM IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND TALK ABOUT TOPICS OF CONVERSATION THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T TALK ABOUT, UH, AT A BROAD WAY PUBLICLY, UH, BUT IN A RESPECTFUL WAY AND A WAY FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS, UH, AS A TITLE TO THE NAME.
SO, UH, THIS IS A HYBRID ADVANTAGE THAT SAYS THERE'LL BE HERE AT CITY HALL THAT NIGHT FROM SEVEN TO EIGHT 30, OR YOU CAN WATCH ONLINE AT THAT SAME TIME THROUGH ALL OF OUR CHANNELS, CHANNEL 10 OR FACEBOOK, YOU CAN COMMENT ONLINE A REALLY COOL EVENT TO WATCH LIVE BECAUSE THERE ARE AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION PIECES ALONG WITH THE DISCUSSION.
SO IF YOU CAN WATCH IT LIVE, THAT WOULD BE PREFERABLE, BUT AS ANYTHING THAT'S EVER DONE IN THIS CHAMBER, IT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO WATCH ONLINE OR AT OUR CALL YOUTUBE CHANNEL AFTER THE FACT.
GREAT, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND THEN CONTINUING THAT THEME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR, PAUL FAILING.
I'M PAUL FALLON DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES AND JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. SO FOR NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE AN EXHIBIT UP CALLED VAQUERO GENESIS OF THE TEXAS COWBOY.
IT IS A BILINGUAL EXHIBIT THAT KIND OF LOOKS AT A SINGULAR FAMILY, BUT LOOKING AT KIND OF THE TRADITIONS OF THE VOLCANOES IN TEXAS AND THE GENESIS OF THE TEXAS COWBOY AND THAT EXHIBIT IS ACTUALLY MADE POSSIBLE BY A, WE, THE PEOPLE GRANT FROM THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT OF HUMANITIES.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT WHEN WE GOT IT THROUGH THE HUMANITIES, TEXAS, AND THAT WILL BE, WE'RE RUNNING THAT FROM SEPTEMBER 16TH, OF COURSE, TO OCTOBER 13TH.
NOW ON OCTOBER 13TH, THROUGH NOVEMBER 6TH, WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL EXHIBIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES CALLED VOICES, AMERICANOS LATINO LITERATURE IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY INTERESTING ONE.
AND IN FACT, YOU CAN SEE THE, ONE OF THE PICTURES UP THERE, BARBACOA
AND THIS IS, IT PRESENTS IMAGES OF AUTHORS, BOOKS, MOVIES, STILLS, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS, ILLUSTRATIONS, AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
SO IT'S LITERATURE, BUT IT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE VISUAL
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SIDE OF THE ARTS.SO THAT WILL BE FROM OCTOBER 30TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 6TH.
SO IT'S RUNNING AFTER A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE THESE WITH ALL THE OTHER PLACES THAT ARE TRYING TO GET THEM.
WE WERE VERY LUCKY TO GET BOTH OF THESE DURING THIS TIME.
AND, UH, IN ADDITION, WE DO HAVE A, A BOOK DISPLAY UP, OBVIOUSLY CELEBRATING OUR HISPANIC LITERATURE AND AUTHORS.
AND ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS WE'RE DOING IS ONE OF THE PERSONS ON THE DIALOGUE FOR A PIECE OF PROGRESS.
UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING A BOOK, TALK WITH HER, WHICH WILL BE FILMED AND THAT WILL COME OUT.
UH, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE DAYS AND WE'LL PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THAT ON HER BOOK ABOUT, UH, UH, YES, AND VOTING RIGHTS IN SOUTH TEXAS.
AND IT WAS AN EXCELLENT BOOK THAT SHE PUT TOGETHER.
UH, MARIANNA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME AND TALK, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MARIANNA SPINDLES ARE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
JUST TWO REMINDERS ABOUT OUR UPCOMING PARADES.
WE HAVE THE FOUNDER'S DATE AND THE VETERAN'S DAY PARADE FOUNDER'S DAY PARADE IS ON OCTOBER 9TH AND BEGINNING AT 10:00 AM.
AND WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE THREE SPOTS LEFT IN THE PARADE.
AND OUR VETERANS DAY PARADE IS ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH AT NOON WITH ACTIVITIES FOLLOWING AFTERWARDS AT GREG CLARK PARK, INCLUDING A FLYOVER AND FIREWORKS ANY QUESTIONS, JUST EXCITED ABOUT THE ADDITION OF THE VETERANS DAY PARADE THIS YEAR.
ALL THE COUNCIL IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT ADDITION AS WELL.
UH, FOR ALL THE, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THAT, BUT THANK YOU, MARIANNA AND SANDRA DURAN FOR OUR TEAM, KYLE NEWS, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT LAST THURSDAY, WE RECOGNIZED TWO OF OUR BEST KYLE TEAM MEMBERS.
SEPTEMBER 1ST WAS CHIEF OF STAFF, JERRY HENDRICK'S 50TH ANNIVERSARY, AND ALSO SEPTEMBER 24TH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, JAMES AARP, BOTH GENTLEMEN SERVED THE CITY FOR 15 YEARS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOUR GREAT SERVICE AND DEDICATION.
AND, UH, WE DID HAVE A GREAT RECOGNITION FOR BOTH OF THESE TWO UPSTANDING GENTLEMEN AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF KYLE.
THERE THEY'RE GREAT TEAM CALLED MEMBERS, AND I WAS ABLE TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, JERRY HENDRIX WAS ALSO PROMOTED TO THE POSITION OF ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THANKS TO THE, UH, THE COUNCIL AND THE, THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
SO WE'VE GOT TWO WONDERFUL ASSISTANTS LEADING THE CITY AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE YEARS TO COME WITH THEIR LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS OF SERVICE TO CITY.
THEY ARE LITERALLY TWO OF THE NICEST PEOPLE I'VE EVER MET.
VERY GOOD PEOPLE IN KYLE IS VERY BLESSED TO HAVE THEM.
AND SO WE'RE YEAH, WE'RE OVER HERE 10, 15 MORE AND WE'RE NOT KIDDING WHEN I SAY WE IT'S ME INDEX AT LEAST SO CONGRATULATIONS AT 15 YEARS.
UM, AND I'LL SWING BY AND MAYBE HAVE A SURPRISE AT THE END OF THE WEEK IF YOU'RE STILL HERE.
ALL OF THAT ENJOY WORKING WITH BOTH OF YOU GUYS.
I'VE WORKED WITH YOU ALL FOR A LONG TIME, EVEN BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL AND THE DEDICATION AND WORK ETHIC FROM YOU, BOTH IS UNMATCHED.
AND, UH, CERTAINLY IT IS A BLESSING TO HAVE YOU BOTH IN OUR CITY.
NEXT, WE HAVE THE NOVEMBER COUNCIL MEETING.
THE MAYOR DID MENTION THIS A LITTLE EARLIER, BUT TYPICALLY WHEN THE ELECTION LIGHT FALLS ON A CITY COUNCIL NIGHT, WE DO RESCHEDULE THAT MEETING TO THE MONDAY PRIOR.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING.
SO PLEASE MARK YOUR CALENDARS FOR MONDAY, NOVEMBER 1ST OR THE, OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING, UH, IN THAT FREES UP OUR FALCON ROOM AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS FOR THE ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 2ND.
AND THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT.
[4. National Hispanic Heritage Month Proclamation. ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]
UP NATIONAL HISPANIC, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION.THANK YOU MA'AM SO IT IS MY HONOR TODAY TO
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PRESENT THE CITY CALL CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATION, AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNSELOR'S SUPPORT ON THIS.WE HAVE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN A STRONG EFFORT TO, UH, HAVE THESE PROCLAMATIONS TO RECOGNIZE VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND I'M CERTAINLY HONORED TO BE A PART OF THAT AND HAVING WRITTEN THIS ONE AS WELL, CALL CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS DURING NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, THE CITY OF COL RECOGNIZES THAT HISPANIC HERITAGE IS AMERICAN HERITAGE.
AND WE SEE THAT INFLUENCE IN ALMOST EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES.
AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR AMERICANS OBSERVED NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH BY CELEBRATING THE HISTORIES, CULTURES, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS WHOSE ANCESTORS CAME FROM MEXICO, SPAIN, THE CARIBBEAN AND CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA.
AND WHEREAS THE OBSERVATION STARTED IN 1968 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE WEEK UNDER PRESIDENT LYNDON JOHNSON, AND THEN WAS EXPANDED BY PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN IN 1988 THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE ENCOURAGEMENT OF COUNCIL MEMBER, ESTEBAN TORRES OF CALIFORNIA, TO COVER THE PERIOD AT WHICH IT IS CELEBRATED TODAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH.
AND WHEREAS THE DAY OF SEPTEMBER 15TH IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT IS THE ANNIVERSARY OF INDEPENDENCE FOR LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES, COSTA RICA, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA, HONDURAS, AND NICARAGUA.
IN ADDITION, MEXICO AND CHILE CELEBRATE THEIR INDEPENDENCE DAYS ON SEPTEMBER 16TH AND 18TH RESPECTFULLY.
AND WHEREAS IN THE WORDS OF FAMED MEXICAN DESIGNER, DESIGNER, MARISOL, BUT ALTA, YOUR INDIVIDUALITY IS IMPORTANT, BUT SO IS BELONGING RECOGNIZE THE PARTS OF YOUR CULTURE THAT HAVE SHAPED YOUR PAST AND THE PARTS YOU WANT TO CARRY WITH YOU INTO THE FUTURE.
AND WHEREAS AS ACTIVISTS, DOLORES HUERTA ENCOURAGE INVOLVEMENT, QUOTE, WE ARE NEEDED, WE HAVE TO BE ENGAGED AND GET OURSELVES ELECTED TO SCHOOL BOARDS AND CITY COUNCILS, THESE SAFE WAY AT IT.
AND TRULY WE HAVE SEEN THIS LOCALLY MANY TIMES OVER AT THE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARDS, CITY COUNCILS, BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND INFLUENTIAL ACTIVISTS ALL THROUGHOUT OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.
THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF CALLED THAT ON THIS DAY, WE RECOGNIZE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2021 THROUGH OCTOBER 15, TWO TO 2021 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND RECOGNITION OF THE INTELLIGIBLE FOOTPRINTS OF HISPANIC CULTURE IN OUR DAILY LIVES.
AND A REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.
AS, AS PAUL MENTIONED, WE HAVE SOME GREAT EXHIBITS AT OUR LIBRARY.
I'M EXCITED, UH, TO HAVE THE DIALOGUE FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS IN THE NAME OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH ON THE FIRST AS WELL.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND GROW.
I KNOW I'M CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN LEARNING AS I RESEARCHED FOR THIS PROCLAMATION AND GETTING PREPARED FOR THAT.
AND THAT CERTAINLY IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
AND SO I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S CONTINUOUS SUPPORT ON THIS AS WELL.
I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
UH, NO, HE'S REALLY EXCITED WITH A PIECE OF PROGRESS AROUND THE CORNER.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, UH, FOR DOING YOUR RESEARCH AND YOUR HOMEWORK.
YOU KNOW, THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'VE, THAT HISPANICS HAVE MADE IN, IN JUST IN TEXAS AND IN THE NATION, IT STARTS OFF WITH JUST THE SIMPLE TASK OF THE VOC GHETTO.
WHEN HE STARTED IN SOUTH TEXAS AND MEXICO, AND IT'S ROPING RIDING AND HURTING COWS AND TRAINING HORSES, WE NEVER KNEW IT WOULD BLOW UP INTO WHAT IS TODAY WHEN YOU GO TO PLACES AS FAR NORTH, AS WYOMING, AND YOU SEE THE COWBOY STATE AND YOU KNOW, THE BIRD THAT WAS DOWN IN SOUTH TEXAS, IT'S, IT'S INCREDIBLE.
WELL, THE LEGACY WE'VE LEFT BEHIND AS A PEOPLE, I CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THOSE PEOPLE ARE OUR KIDS, OUR CHILDREN, THOSE NEXT GENERATIONS TO CONTINUE TO REACH FOR THE STARS.
DON'T GIVE UP, DON'T HAVE LIMITS, DON'T LIMIT YOURSELF TO ANYTHING, CONTINUE TO REACH FOR THE STARS.
YOU HAVE GREAT ABILITIES AND YOU HAVE GREAT INFLUENCE.
SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THE COUNCIL FOR, UH, PROCLAMATION AND, AND, UH, TO ALL THOSE, UH, ELECTED LEADERS, HISPANIC ELECTRIC LEADERS.
REMEMBER THEY'RE WATCHING THE LEGACY YOU LEAVE BEHIND IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO FOLLOW.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO DECKS.
UM, HE NEVER FAILS TO AMAZE ME AND I WAS GIVING A COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO A HARD TIME BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, MAN, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN US.
LIKE REALLY? WE'RE LIKE WE'RE HISPANIC.
WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
SO I, IT'S GOING TO BE MY GOAL FOR NEXT YEAR TO WRITE MY OWN PROCLAMATION FOR THE SAME DAY.
UM, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S MY BIRTHDAY, BUT I'M ALSO BECAUSE IT IS MY HERITAGE.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT NEVER TO FORGET THAT.
SO THANK YOU TO DEX AND THANK YOU FOR THE PIECE IN PROGRESS.
UM, IT REALLY IS A IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT, UM, SITUATION TO SIT AND WATCH.
I REMEMBER WATCHING ONE WITH OUR MAYOR, TRAVIS MITCHELL,
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AND JUST LEARNING ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND AND SEEING HIM MORE IN A HUMANE WAY.AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST A GOOD WAY TO SEE MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE OUTSIDE OR JUST WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT YOU.
SO, UM, I HOPE, I HOPE YOU GUYS WATCH THAT.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT.
IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANYONE HERE YOU WANT TO BRING UP OR DO A PHOTO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UH, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WE TYPICALLY WOULD, OUR PROCLAMATIONS TAKE PICTURES.
I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE IN A WHILE, SO I, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT? UH, UH, SO IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME UP TO COUNCIL, UH, HERE AND WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE A QUICK PICTURE TO PUT THAT WITH THE PROCLAMATION THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.
CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF KYLE, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS HERE WITH THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT CALL, I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CERTAIN, TO COME UP AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH US IN SUPPORT OF THE, UH, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH PROCLAMATION.
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Consider nomination and take action to reappointment to the Planning and Zoning Commission to fill expired terms. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor
- Patricia Snidow
- Matthew Chase
- Alex Guerra
I THINK TWO OF THEM ARE FILLING PARTIAL TERMS. UM, AND ONE OF THEM IS FILLING A COMPLETE TERM.
IT COULD BE, I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT, BUT EITHER WAY, THEY'RE ALL UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT, UH, UNDER THE NOMINATION OF THE, OR THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE, UH, THE CHAIR, UH, AT THE TIME.
UH, AND THEN, UM, UH, BECAUSE THE CHAIR IS NO LONGER SERVING, UM, UM, CARRYING IT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE START THAT'S FOR FLOOR SCALE.
UM, I ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH MS. MICHELLE CHRISTIE AND SHE HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT EACH OF THE THREE PEOPLE WE WANT TO REAPPOINT AT TWO THINGS THAT I ASKED HER ABOUT WERE ATTENDANCE AND PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE IN ANY GROUP THAT WE SHOULD HAVE, UM, AT A MINIMUM ATTENDANCE, UM, BUT ALSO TO HAVE PARTICIPATION.
AND SHE ASSURED ME THAT EACH OF THESE, UM, REAPPOINTMENTS WERE VERY ACTIVE AND THEY, AND THEY SHOWED UP AND THEY WERE VOCAL.
SO I HAVE WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE NO PROBLEM REAPPOINTING ANY OF THESE THREE.
UH, LAST NIGHT I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF, UH, CONTACTING, UH, PURCHASE A SLIDO.
AND, UH, IT WAS GOING TO BE JUST A QUICK CONVERSATION IN UP BEING ALMOST A FULL HOUR.
AND WE HAD A GREAT, GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CITY AND HER DESIRE TO SERVE AND JUST HEARING HER BACKGROUND, UH, REALLY EXCITED ME TO SEE A LOT OF HER EXPERIENCE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IN HER VIEW OF THEIR CITY, HOW MUCH SHE REALLY LOVES THIS TOWN.
I CALL IT A TOWN, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A CITY.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT I LIKE TO SEE IS SOMEBODY WHO'S REALLY WANTS TO SEE WHERE OUR CITY IS GOING IN THE FUTURE.
AND, AND REALLY TAKING THE TIME TO SEE WHEN WE HAVE, UM, ZONING, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP, THAT THE, UH, PNC TAKES THE TIME TO REALLY SEE THE DIRECTION WHERE OUR CITY IS GOING TO GO.
AND I HOPE IN THE FUTURE, UH, WE DO WORK WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TO BE ABLE TO GET A GUIDELINE, TO SEE WHERE WE'RE ALL COMING TOGETHER AS A TEAM ON THIS.
SO, UH, AGAIN, I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM AGAIN, SUPPORTING ALL THREE OF THESE AS WELL.
HE HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST MAYOR PRO TEM COACH.
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TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT I DID THE VOTING ON TWO OF THE THREE NOMINATIONS, BUT REPEATING MYSELF FOR, UH, MR. GARRISON OMNI THAT'S WHERE ELSE DO WE HAVE, UH, MS. SNYDER AND SHIT.UH, IS IT CHASE MATTHEW CHASE? DO WE HAVE THEM PRESENT HERE THIS EVENING? NO, I DON'T SEE THEM ALL RIGHT.
WELL, JUST NOT TO BE A STICKLER, BUT THE POLICY DOES SAY THAT THEY SHOULD BE HERE WELL ON THEIR THIRD APPOINTMENT.
UH, UM, SO I GUESS, UH, I DID HAVE, I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
I ALSO TALKED TO A FORMER CHAIR OF P AND G MICHELLE CHRISTIE, AND I SECOND THAT SHE HAD GLOWING THINGS TO SAY ABOUT ALL THREE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS.
I'VE WATCHED THESE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.
UH, THE BENEFIT OF A P AND Z AS THEY ARE, THEY HAVE THEIR MEETINGS IN HERE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY ATTEND THEM TO WATCH YOU ON, BUT WE'RE, WE ARE ALWAYS WATCHING.
AND, UH, I, WELL, UH, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT AND TIME THAT IS PUT INTO IT.
UM, CERTAINLY, UH, MR. CHASE AND MS. MRS. SNYDER ARE RELATIVELY NEW, BUT THEY HAVE JUMPED IN AND BEEN GREAT, UH, ACTIVE TEAMMATES AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
UH, BUT MR. GHETTO, SINCE YOU'RE HERE TODAY, UH, I WANNA ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON YOU.
UH, YOU HAVE BEEN A FANTASTIC PANSY COMMISSIONER.
I HAVE BEEN SO PROUD OF THE, UH, EFFORT YOU'VE PUT INTO IT.
YOU CAN TELL THAT YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
YOU CAN TELL YOU TAKE TIME OUTSIDE THE MEETINGS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE COMING TO DO, UH, ON THOSE SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAYS.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT WORK ETHIC.
UH, I, MYSELF AND A MAYOR PRO TEM ALSO SERVED ON PNC.
WE KNOW WHAT THAT SERVICE IS LIKE.
WE HAVE MR. REVSON HERE AND THE AUDIENCE'S EVENING, WHO WAS MY CHAIR WHEN I WAS ON P AND Z AND SHOWED ME THE WAY AS WELL, AND, UH, LEARNED A LOT FROM HIM.
AND IT'S JUST SO ENRICHING TO SEE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GIVING UP THEIR TIME AS VOLUNTEERS TO BE A PART OF THIS, BUT NOT JUST TO BE A PART OF IT AND SAY, THEY'RE APPOINTED FISH OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT TRULY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND MR. GHETTO, YOU'RE ONE OF THE BEST I'VE SEEN, UH, INCLUDING THE TIME THAT I'VE SERVED.
SO, UH, IT IS, UH, CERTAINLY AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU ON OUR, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UH, AND SO, UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR NOMINEES, BUT, UH, SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT ALL THREE OF THE, UH, THAT'S RIGHT.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, UH, MRS. SNYDER AND MR. CHASE, UH, FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
IT'S MOVED BY CUSTOMER ELLISON, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FORCE KALES OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I'LL HOLD FOR THE NEXT ONE.
AND THEN I GUESS, UH, HE'S RECUSED HIMSELF.
UH, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, UH, MR. ALEX GEAR, UH, REAPPOINT HIM TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION SECOND, RIGHT.
MOVE BY KESTRA ELLISON SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR TOBIA.
IS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CUSTOMER ELLS? YES.
UH, MR. GARRETT, IF I COULD HAVE YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM.
SO, UH, I WANTED TO MAKE THE, UH, THE REAPPOINTMENT EMOTION FIRST, BECAUSE I THINK YOU, UH, OBVIOUSLY CLEARLY DESERVE TO BE REAPPOINTMENT REAPPOINTED.
I'M SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU REAPPOINTED.
UH, SO THIS QUESTION IS MORE, JUST A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY, UH, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU ARE NOW IN YOUR, THIS WOULD BE YOUR SECOND OR WOULD BE YOUR THIRD TERM.
I JUMPED ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, AND IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SHORTER FIRST TERM, BUT ONCE.
WELL, YOU'VE, YOU'RE CERTAINLY, UH, HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE AND INVOLVED IN THAT TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN ON THERE.
AND YOU'RE CLEARLY, UH, SEEN AS A LEADER BECAUSE YOU'RE THE CURRENT VICE CHAIR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, A FINDING ON ZONING.
UH, I JUST WANT TO TRY TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, HAVING SERVED ON PLANNING AND ZONING FOR A WHILE NOW.
UH, WE DID RECENTLY HAVE A RESIGNATION ON OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
WE HAD TWO OTHERS AND THE, THE SPRING AS WELL, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, AND HAVING SAT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND BEING HEAVILY INVOLVED IN OBVIOUSLY SEEN AS A LEADER BY YOUR PEERS, WHAT DO YOU FEEL LIKE IS THE DISCONNECT THAT WE'RE HAVING SO MUCH, SO MANY, UH, RESIGNATIONS AND SEEMS TO BE SOME BIT OF FRUSTRATION, UH, BY PNC AND WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WOULD BE SOME ADVICE TO COUNCIL THAT YOU WOULD GIVE TO HELP US FOSTER A BETTER RELATIONSHIP THERE? UM, FIRST JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE KIND WORDS IT
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WAS.IT WAS, IT WAS VERY, UM, INSPIRING.
UM, I, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I, I, I, I THINK THERE WERE SOME MISTAKES MADE, UM, BACK SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UH, JUST BETWEEN, UM, WHEN, WHEN WE ARE ASKED TO DO A TASK, UM, THEN WHAT I PERSONALLY WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEEN IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TASK AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU AT THAT POINT.
WE ARE, I, I AM PERFECTLY FINE.
YOU KNOW, YOU SAYING, NO, YOU SAYING YOU HAVING YOUR REASONS FOR IT.
UM, THE COMMISSIONERS DID DO A BIT OF WORK AND THEN WE WEREN'T EVEN ABLE TO PRESENT THAT WORK FORWARD.
UM, THAT WAS A FRUSTRATION FOR SOME OF OUR COMMISSIONERS, BUT I THINK IT WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE IN ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CBD, UH, UH, DESIGNATION WE GAVE YOU ALL TO HELP US DETERMINE THE USES AND CBD ONE CBT.
UH, UM, AND, AND SO JUST, I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT RESIGNED, BUT FOR MYSELF PERSONALLY, UM, THE WORK THAT I DID WITH SEVERAL OF THE OTHER, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WE WOULD HAVE ALIGNED AT LEAST LIKE TO BRING THAT FORWARD, UH, TO SEE, UH, AND THEN, THEN YOU ALL COULD TAKE IT FROM THERE, ADOPT IT NOT.
UM, BUT AS YOU HAVE IT JUST, UH, UM, AND, AND, BUT, BUT I REALLY DO THINK A LOT OF THE MISCOMMUNICATION WAS FROM THAT ONE TIME.
AND, UM, I THINK BOTH THE COUNCIL AND, AND THE COMMISSION GOING FORWARD SHOULD HAVE LESS ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.
DO YOU THINK A JOINT MEETING OF THE TWO BODIES COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMISSION? I DO.
UM, YOU KNOW, MYSELF ONCE, ONCE COMMISSIONER, UM, UH, SHAD MEYER'S TERM IS OVER, UM, I MYSELF WILL BE THE SECOND MOST SENIOR PERSON ON, ON PLANNING ZONING.
AND MY FIRST TERM WAS A BIT SHORT.
SO WE ARE A YOUNG COMMISSION AND IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE DIRECTION AND MORE INSIGHT FROM YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY AS WE DO HAVE, WE'LL HAVE TWO NEW MEMBERS SOON AND QUITE A FEW MEMBERS THAT ARE JUST STILL IN THEIR FIRST YEAR.
AND ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, MR. GATTO, SO THAT, THAT COMMUNICATION AND THAT, THAT COMBINED MEETING THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, DO YOU THINK IT'S SUITED BETTER TO DO THAT ONCE PEOPLE ARE APPOINTED AND THE EARLIER IN THEIR TERM THE BETTER, OR DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO WAIT AND ALLOW THE COMMISSION TO GET SETTLED FIRST? WHAT WOULD YOU BE? WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVICE ON THE BEST WAY TO REALLY EXPRESS FROM THE COUNSEL THAT YOU ALL ARE RECOMMEND RENTING BODY TO OF WHAT OUR GOALS AND, UH, UH, OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TACKLE AND THE, OBVIOUSLY THE ASSISTANCE WE NEED FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING.
DO YOU FEEL THAT THAT'S BETTER DONE IMMEDIATELY AFTER APPOINTMENTS AND CATCHING THEM SOONER? OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S BETTER TO WAIT? GREAT.
ALL THINGS EQUAL, I WOULD SAY SOONER IS BETTER.
UM, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT COME INTO THIS WITH YOUR SCHEDULES AND, AND SO ON.
AND SO JUST HAVING A MEETING IN ITSELF WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL.
WITH THESE COMMISSIONERS, WE'RE GOING TO WANT THEM TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AS BEST AS THEY CAN.
AND THE EARLIER WE CAN DO THESE THINGS, I THINK THE BETTER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, FEEDBACK AND NOT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
THE REASON WHY IS WHEN WE, UH, DISCUSSED, UH, THE DOWNTOWN, THAT ONE INSTANCE, I KIND OF FELT LIKE WE WERE JUST GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT WE, WE SPEND A GOOD DEAL OF TIME THAT EVENING TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE WERE WANTING THE COMMISSION LOOK AT, BUT THERE'S NO COMMISSIONERS HERE.
I FELT LIKE WHAT WE WERE GETTING TO YOU NOW WAS THIRD-PARTY NEWS.
YOU'RE GETTING IT FROM A LIAISON AND I'M REALLY GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO REALLY LOOK AT THE MEETINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WATCH THEM OR NOT.
UM, BUT I ENCOURAGE ALL THE PNZ MEMBERS TO WATCH THE MEETINGS.
SO WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING DIRECTION FROM US DIRECTLY, YOU'RE NOT GETTING IT FROM A THIRD PARTY OR STAFF, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ENCOURAGE, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION IS KEY IN ANYTHING WE DO IN THE CITY.
SO ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO COUNSEL, COME OUT AND TALK TO COUNCIL AS WELL.
THAT THAT PODIUM IS THERE FOR A REASON.
SO PLEASE USE IT COME OUT AND LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND MOVING FORWARD.
BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, WANTING TO SERVE THE CITY, UH, FOR ANOTHER TERM.
I KNOW YOU AND I, WHEN YOU FIRST WERE APPOINTED, HAD A PRETTY GOOD CONVERSATION IN YOUR LIVING ROOM.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU INVITING ME INTO YOUR HOME.
AND SO I COULD GET TO KNOW THE PERSON THAT WE'RE GOING TO POINT.
AND, UH, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
UM, YOU ALSO REACHED OUT TO ME BEFORE I KNEW YOU WERE ON P AND Z, AND I LIKED THE FACT THAT YOU WERE A CONCERNED RESIDENT AS WELL.
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EFFORTS IN, IN PUTTING FORTH, UH, FOR THE CITY AND MAKING IT BETTER, UM, ON A DIFFERENT NOTE AND FOR COUNCIL, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH P AND Z, BUT COLLECTIVELY AS A GAIUS.I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN WE COME TO THEM AS ONE, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT, UM, CONFUSING OR FRUSTRATING.
UM, BECAUSE WE, WE SPEAK AS ONE WHEN WE SPEAK UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE, BUT WHEN WE SPEAK THEM INDEPENDENTLY, I THINK THAT MAYBE OUR INDIVIDUAL WANTS AND NEEDS MIGHT GET PASSED AS OPPOSED TO OUR COLLECTIVE NEEDS AND WANTS AS A DIOCESE.
UM, I LOVE, I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE TO SEE P AND Z UP ON THE PODIUM, EVERY, EVERY CHANCE THEY GET.
UM, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE GOING UP TO INDIVIDUAL, UM, COMMISSIONERS AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS.
SO IF WE CAN AVOID THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, THAT WOULD ALSO MAKE THE WHOLE SITUATION BETTER.
I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF DIRECTION YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN, BUT I JUST KNOW IT'S A LOT LESS CONFUSING WHEN WE SPEAK RIGHT HERE FROM THE DIOCESE.
UM, THEN WHEN WE CALL YOU OR WE EMAIL YOU AND IT'S NOT AS A WHOLE IT'S IT'S IT'S INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, SO W A S SPEAKING BACK TO THE CBD ONE CBD TO EVENT THAT THAT DID HAPPEN.
UM, I WOULD SAY FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY, JUST MYSELF PERSONALLY, I REALLY DID TAKE THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE AND APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
AS MY DIRECTIVE, WE DID GET A FEW MEMBERS OF YOUR DIOCESE TO, TO TELL US THEIR INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVE ON THAT, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY THE MOTION AND, AND, AND THAT WAS PASSED THAT, THAT I USED.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE CAN BRING BACK TO YOU WHAT WE HAD AND THEN, UH, AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PERSONAL PERSPECTIVES FROM THEIR OWN.
AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE THAT YOU GUYS WERE NOT ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO US.
UM, AND ALSO I WAS VERY NEW INTO MY TERM.
AND SO I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT REACHED OUT AND I SENT THE VIDEO BECAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS CLARIFICATION NEEDED.
I WAS TRYING TO GIVE NO DIRECTION BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE SAID, PLEASE WATCH IT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COME BACK TO US.
AND THEN I REALIZED THAT'S PROBABLY, MAYBE THAT PUTS SOME PRESSURE ON THEM OR CONFUSES THEM, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T TRY TO TELL YOU WHAT IT IS I WAS TRYING TO SAY OR WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS.
I NEVER WANTED TO LIKE COUSIN, YOU KIND OF COMMOTION, BUT, UM, I, I WAS QUICK TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND TO SAY, YEAH, INDIVIDUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WE MEET UP WITH YOU GUYS OR, YOU KNOW, OR EMAIL.
AND, AND, AND JUST, JUST TO YOUR POINT, UM, I, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANY OF YOU WHENEVER YOU HAVE THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS, BUT, BUT I, I TOO WILL TAKE THE MOTIONS YOU PRESENT TO US AS, AS WHAT THE ENTIRE, UH, COUNSEL IS, IS SAYING.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
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Appoint nominee for position on City of Kyle Ethics Commission. ~ Ashlee Bradshaw, Council Member
- Krista Piferrer
I AM EXCITED AND HONORED TO NOMINATE KRISTA FLIPPER AS MY ETHICS COMMISSION APPOINTEE.
I THINK THAT HER PASSION FOR THE CITY OF KYLE AND EXCELLENT MORAL COMPASS AND BACKGROUND IN POLITICS MAKES HER AN OVERLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATE FOR THIS COMMISSION.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ASK HER QUESTIONS, KRISTA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? UH, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE NOMINEE CAT'S WORKFORCE CAP? I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A MILLION QUESTIONS, CAUSE I DIDN'T ASK YOU ENOUGH ON THE PHONE.
I PERSONALLY KNOW CHRIS SAYS OUR KIDS WENT TO DAYCARE TOGETHER, UM, AND, AND SHE MADE, SHE REALLY MADE THIS GREAT COMMENT.
I WISH EVERYONE COULD SEE IT AND HEAR IT.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO REPEAT IT.
SHE SAID SHE REALLY LIKED MY FACEBOOK BECAUSE MY POSTINGS ARE ALWAYS REALLY FUNNY.
UM, BUT I THINK CHRIS IS GREAT.
UH, SHE MADE A COMMENT THAT HIT ME RIGHT IN THE HEART AND SHE S SHE MADE THE COMMENT THAT HER MORAL COMPASS IS UP.
AND, UM, I DON'T, YOU DON'T GET THAT A LOT NOWADAYS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S, UM, IT'S KIND OF FROWNED UPON TO HAVE THAT KIND OF MORAL COMPASS.
UM, PEOPLE WANT TO TELL YOU THAT YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN OTHER PEOPLE, AND YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO BE YOU JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT.
SO, UM, I ENJOYED THAT CONVERSATION AND I'VE ENJOYED KNOWING YOU FOR FOREVER.
UM, AND SO I THINK YOU WOULD MAKE A GREAT CANDIDATE.
SO, UM, MY QUESTION WILL BE, WILL BE DIFFERENT.
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UH, CUSTOMER, UH, BRADSHAW MENTIONED, UH, YOU WERE INVOLVED POLITICALLY.I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU IN WHAT REALM, WHAT, SAY WHAT, BUT I AM GOING TO ASK YOU, WOULD THAT, UH, DID PERSUADE YOU OR DETER YOU IN MAKING A DECISION, OR WOULD YOU HAVE AN OPEN MIND WHEN, UH, IF SOMETHING CAME BEFORE YOU? OH, UM, NO, CERTAINLY I, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE.
I WORKED IN THE GOVERNMENT IN FLORIDA AND TEXAS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AS WELL AS, UH, FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
UM, I HAVE WORKED FOR A CAMPAIGN, BUT THE, UH, THE BULK OF MY EXPERIENCES THAT, AND SO I GREATLY VALUE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY MY ROLE AS BEING A STEWARD OF PUBLIC TRUST.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, UH, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERING AND WORKING FOR NONPROFITS.
IT'S, UH, DEFINITELY GOT MY VOTE FOR, THANK YOU.
I GUESS FOR ALISON COUPLE QUESTIONS.
ONE, I WILL ASK, UH, WHAT, UH, YOU SAID YOU WORKED FOR A CAMPAIGN, WAS IT LOCAL? NO, SIR.
SO WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW APPROACHED YOU ABOUT THIS, WAS IT AN IMMEDIATE YES.
UM, I'M HONORED AND FLATTERED THAT YOU WOULD THINK OF ME.
UM, I ASKED HER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD AT MOMENT, AND THEN FOLLOWED UP WITH THE CITY SECRETARY WITH FURTHER TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOURSELF INTO.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A RESIDENT OF COL? ALMOST 1500, 15 YEARS.
AND WHAT EXCITES YOU MOST ABOUT SERVING ON THE ETHICS BOARD? UM, SO I, I CAME BEFORE THIS BODY MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO AGO TO TALK ABOUT SOME DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, ONE OF MY OPENING LINES FOR THAT WAS THAT, UM, I'VE LIVED IN KYLE FOR 15 YEARS, BUT I'VE EITHER WORKED IN AUSTIN OR IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND SO I WOULD TELL PEOPLE, OH, I LIVE IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT I SLEEP IN KYLE.
AND, UM, UH, OF COURSE COVID FOR THE PAST YEAR HAS HAD A LOT OF US, UM, LIVE AND WORK IN THE SAME PLACE, UM, NAMED LIKE YOUR KITCHEN COUNTER.
UM, BUT, UH, BEYOND THAT, I'VE ALSO, UM, NOW I HAVE THREE LITTLE KYLE TEXANS, UM, AND SO I FEEL VERY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE, UM, SERVE BEHIND THE SCENES, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HOLD TO ACCOUNT, UM, YOU ALL TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO REPRESENT MY NEIGHBORS.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO.
I'VE RUN THREE CAMPAIGNS IN THIS CITY, AND I'VE TALKED TO PLENTY OF FOLKS THAT SAID SIMILAR THINGS LIKE YOU, THAT I LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND I JUST SLEEP HERE AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONVERT A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE IN CHICAGO, PEOPLE FOR A LONG TIME.
SO I'M HAPPY THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE JUMPED FULL DAY ON TO THIS, AND IT'S A GREAT CITY.
AND, UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON, ON BOARD, UH, UH, TO HELP US OUT WITH THIS COMMISSION.
ANYONE ELSE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOVE BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FLORIST KELLY, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
[7. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
JEANETTE, I'M NUMBER SEVEN, CF P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
WE'RE STILL AT BURLINGTON STREET TRYING TO WRAP THAT PROJECT UP.
I VISITED WITH THE PROJECT MANAGER TODAY AND I ASKED HER HOW, HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE TO WAIT? SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CONTRACTOR AGAIN.
COUNCIL WILL REMIND YOU, WE'RE SITTING ON AT LEAST OVER $300,000 OF THEIR MONEY IN RETAINED IT.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT GETTING A RESPONSE.
I KNOW, BUT, UH, WE'LL KEEP CONTACTING THE CONTRACTOR AND TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO HURRY UP AND RAMP IT UP.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS, IS, IS THERE SOME PARTICULAR TASK YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO DO? THERE IS A MAYOR, UH, THERE'S A PARKING AREA THAT, UH, WE DISCOVERED DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MATERIAL IN IT, UH, BASED ON THE SPECIFICATIONS.
SO WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A CREDIT FOR THAT.
AND SO WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THAT.
THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE WITH SOME ROYAL THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO LOOK AT INSTALLING AS A SAFETY PRECAUTION.
SO WE'RE WAITING ON SOME ESTIMATES OR AT LEAST FOR HIM TO GET BACK AND ASK HIM IF HE'S GOING TO DO THAT PROJECT OR NOT.
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WE ALSO HAVE AS-BUILTS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE DONE FOR THE PROJECT.UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE AS PART OF THE, THAT'S, WHY WE'RE HOLDING UP.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP THE RETAINAGE UNTIL WE GET EVERYTHING DONE IN, IN, IN PLACE AND FINISHED.
SO THERE'S MINOR DETAILS, BUT RIGHT NOW THAT PARTICULAR CONTRACTOR IS ON WINDY HILL.
SO HE'S TRYING TO WRAP THAT UP.
SO I'LL GIVE HIM THAT, BUT WE STILL NEED TO WRAP IT UP ON THE VINE OR OTHER DETAILS THAT WE HAVE THE HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK.
UH, WE'RE AT 12% COMPLETE, UH, THEY'RE FORMING THIS ROCK CASCADE WALL AND THE CALLS FOR THE BRIDGE HAD BEEN POURED, UH, READY FOR THE SUPERSTRUCTURE.
IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT, UH, WE'RE ALSO FORMING THE FLAGPOLE STEP TO SEATING FOR THE PROJECT, WHETHER THE PARK IS, UH, ABOUT 8% COMPLETE, UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SITE AND THE BUILDING PAD GRADES, AND THEY'RE ALSO INSTALLING UTILITIES, MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK PROJECT, UH, IT'S ABOUT 25% COMPLETE ELECTRICAL DRAINAGE, IRRIGATION, UH, UNDERGROUND TRENCHING AND CONDUITS ABOUT 98% COMPLETE, UH, ELECTRICAL LAYOUTS, COMPLETE, UH, WORKING ON THE IRRIGATION AS THEY FINISH THEIR CONCRETE, UH, HAS BEEN DELIVERED INSTALLATION SUPPOSEDLY BEGINS THIS WEEK AND PAVERS ARE BEING PLACED ON THE PROMENADE THIS WEEK.
SO LEON, THE, THIS MIGHT BE A JAMES QUESTION, BUT AS IT RELATES TO THE ELECTRICAL, UH, ARE WE GOING TO BE ON TIME LINE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE ELECTRICAL PERMITS AND HAVE ELECTRICITY DELIVERED TO THE SITE? UH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT GETS DELAYED.
SO WE'D BE ABLE TO RUN, RUN A, RUN, A LIGHT SHOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BALLARDS ARE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN ELEMENTS AREN'T THERE YET.
SO FOR THE RECORD, JAMES AARP, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THAT ALL ALONG, WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING FOR POWER STAYING IN THE PARK.
UH, THE WAY THAT WE HAVE MANAGED TO DO THAT IS WE TOOK DOWN ONE OF THE POLES THAT'S ON MAIN STREET, BUT WE'VE LEFT ONE OF THE POLLS THAT IT'S ON MILLER STREET THAT STILL HAS POWER TO IT.
SO EVEN IF PEC ISN'T DONE DELIVERING THEIR UNDERGROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, BORING AND, AND RUNNING THE LINES AND REROUTING EVERYTHING, WE STILL HAVE POWER IN THE PARK.
SO THAT HAS BEEN THE PLAN SINCE DAY ONE.
SO ASSUMING THAT IF WE HAVE DELAY ON SOME OF THE SUPPLIES ISSUES THAT EVERYBODY'S RUNNING INTO WITH, WITH THE VARIOUS THINGS IN CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, WE CAN STILL HAVE POWER IN THE PARK AND STILL HAVE LIGHTS.
UH, OUTLETS CAN STILL BE INSTALLED, EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE BOLLARDS.
UH, SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE MAKING.
SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE POWER.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLUG IN LIGHTS AND TO HAVE THE PARK LIT UP.
EVEN IF SOME OF THE ITEMS ARE STILL WAITING TO BE DELIVERED.
AND I KNOW YOU SAID THAT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL, SO THANK YOU.
UH, BUT ALSO, UH, I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO, IT IS, UH, HOW ARE WE LOOKING ON US FYS WHEN WE START GETTING INTO THE LANDSCAPING? UM, HAVE WE STARTED LOOKING AT SUPPLIES PRE HAND, UH, THE CONTRACTOR, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING SUPPLIES.
I THINK THE LANDSCAPING IS THE LEAST OF THE CONCERNS FOR THE MOST PART.
IT'S A LOT OF THE HARD THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE MANUFACTURED OR, OR PREPARED FOR EXAMPLE, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF, OF WHAT, WHAT I'M POINTING OUT.
UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN MY EMAIL OR PICTURE THAT I SENT TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE, UH, THE CUSTOM HANDMADE WELDED, UH, FENCE, UH, POSTS.
UH, THOSE ARE LIKE THE MAIN ONE THAT'S THAT WILL BE AT THE EDGE OF, OF THE ENTRYWAYS.
AND THOSE ARE BEING, THOSE ARE BEING FABRICATED BY HAND.
UH, THE BOLLARDS ARE AN ISSUE GETTING IN THE STREETLIGHTS ARE ORDERED AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN.
SO IT'S MORE ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING MANUFACTURED.
I KNOW WE HAD THE BIG FREEZE ISSUE, WHICH WAS A LOT OF THE, OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, THE CONTRACTOR IS HERE AND I JUST DIDN'T ASK ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING PLANTS.
UM, MAYBE THEY CAN JUST GIVE ME A HEADS UP OR SIDEWAYS RATHER THAN HAVING TO COME UP, BUT ARE Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL HAVING ISSUES SOURCING THE PLANTS ARE Y'ALL LOOKING OKAY ON THAT.
THE ARCH FOR THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, A LIST OF PLANTS THAT ARE VITAL, I'LL REPEAT IT FOR THE PEOPLE ON ONLINE PLANTS THERE.
AND THEN WE SEND THEM THIS REPLACED AS A, TODAY, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD PROBLEM.
SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING ONLINE AND COULDN'T HEAR BECAUSE OF NO MICROPHONE, NO WORRIES.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT HE SAID WAS IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PLANTS THAT ARE UNAVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY HAVE SENT A SUBSTITUTE LIST TO THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THEM TO SIGN OFF ON AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING ISSUES TRACKING DOWN PLANTS.
SO WE WILL DO A LOT OF THE PLANTING OF COURSE, IN THE, IN THE SPRING, UH, JUST SO THAT WE DON'T PUT FRESH PLANTS IN THE GROUND DURING THE WINTER, AND THEN THEY DIE, UH, FOR
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NOT HAVING THEIR ROOTS ESTABLISHED.AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK'S GOING ON THERE.
I, I PASS BY THERE DAILY, THE PROGRESS LOOKS TO BE GOING AT A GREAT PACE.
AND THANK YOUR CREWS AS WELL FOR THE HARD WORK CONTINUING ON, UM, WENDY HILL STREET AND DRAINAGE PROJECT, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 98% COMPLETE, UH, THE TRAFFIC'S DRIVING ON THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED WINDY HILL, AND WE DID COMPLETE CHANGE ORDER FOUR, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ONE MORE CHANGE ORDER.
THIS SHOULD BE THE FINAL ONE FOR THE PROJECT.
THIS IS WHERE WE GO THROUGH ALL OUR PLUSES AND MINUSES AND, AND RECONCILE EVERYTHING ON THE PROJECT.
UH, WE STILL HAVE THE FINAL STRIPING IN THE FALL PROTECTION, RIGHT, WHEN THAT WE'RE WAITING ON.
AND, UH, WE DID HAVE A WALK TODAY ON THE PROJECT JUST TO START PICKING UP THE PUNCH LIST ON THAT.
THAT'S THE VIEW OF THE ROAD TODAY, SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 88% COMPLETE THAT WE DID COMPLETE THE WORK BY THE ALEX ALEXANDER PROPERTY.
NOW WE'RE HEADING OVER TO THE MURRAY PROPERTY WHERE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN TRYING TO SQUEEZE A COUPLE OF MAJOR LINES IN THE TEXT DOTS RIGHT AWAY.
CREMA PLANT EXPANSION, UH, HAS NOT CHANGED FOR THE LAST SLIDE THAT I SHARED WITH Y'ALL WE'RE UP ABOUT 71% COMPLETE, UH, CONTINUE WORK ON SATURDAYS TO TRY TO CATCH UP ON OUR SCHEDULE AND MAINTAIN OUR SCHEDULE.
UH, WE DID HAVE TWO EMERGENCY GENERATORS JUST DELIVERED.
UH, IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO SEE THEM, UH, THEY'RE VERY LARGE, VERY LARGE GENERATORS, BUT ANYWAY, UH, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ON A CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE THIS PLANT OPEN BY MARCH OF 2022 AND THE DE-WATERING FACILITY RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WAITING ON, UH, THE, A SUBMITTAL SO WE CAN REVIEW AND APPROVE THOSE SO THEY CAN GET STARTED ON THE ADO WATERING FACILITY, BEN CREEK INTERCEPTOR.
WE, WE'RE STILL ABOUT 58% COMPLAINT.
WE VISITED WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND ASKED HIM IF HE'S HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE PIPE BEING DELIVERED THAT WE NEED TO PLACE THERE.
AND HE'S STILL WAITING ON THE SUPPLIERS TO GIVE THEM A DATE ON THAT.
SO, UH, WE'LL KEEP CHECKING AND SEE WHEN WE CAN GET THAT PIPE IN SO WE CAN COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
UH, WE DID HAVE THE BORING SUBCONTRACTOR, UH, LEAVE THE PROJECT, BUT THEY'RE BACK.
SO THEY SHOULD BE BACK ON SEPTEMBER 27TH TO WRAP UP THE BORE THAT'S LEFT ON THIS PROJECT, HOPEWELL STRODE.
UH, I HAVE GIVEN A PROPOSAL TO THE ELDERS, SO I'M WAITING ON HIM TO, TO LET ME KNOW IF THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GOING TO BE OKAY WITH WHAT HE'S LIKE TO SEE.
UH, THE COUNTY WAS OUT THERE TODAY, PLACING CONCRETE, THEY'VE POURED THREE DRIVEWAYS AND DID ALL THE LADY RAMPS.
SO THOSE ARE COMPLETE ON THAT PORTION.
THEY SHOULD START GRADING THE DITCHES ON THAT SECTION THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, STARTING HOPEFULLY NEXT WEEK.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A SIDEWALK? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? IS THERE GOING TO BE A SIDEWALK GOING AROUND? IS THAT WHAT I SEE THE BOTTOM? RIGHT.
THAT'S JUST, THAT WAS AN EXISTING ADA RAMP THAT WAS THERE, BUT OUR PLAN IS TO GET A PROPOSAL FROM THIS PARTICULAR ENGINEERING FIRM TO LOOK AT PUTTING SIDEWALKS AND STREET LIGHTS ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO, UH, UH, MY, UH, ONE OF MY SUPERVISORS SAID WE'D LIKE TO GET A 12 FOOT PATH THERE.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TRYING, SQUEEZE THAT IN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN SQUEEZE A 12 FOOT WIDE PATH IN THERE.
BUT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO PUT ABOUT A FOUR OR FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK IN THERE ALONG WITH SOME STREET LIGHTING.
WE HAVE STARTED THE, UH, WE DID HAVE CLOSER ROAD CLOSURE ON SLEDGE AND, UH, WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THERE'S, UH, SOME BOARDS THAT WE NEED TO DO UNDERNEATH THAT CULVERT.
AND THERE'S A LINE THAT GOES, UH, FROM, UH, THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE ALL THE WAY UP TO THIRD STREET.
SO THAT'S, UH, STARTED ALREADY.
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, CASPER, ELSA? A COUPLE.
UM, I'LL START WITH OLD POST ROAD.
UM, SO W WHEN WAS THE LAST, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT RIGHT AWAY ISSUE IS AT THE 1 58, THE SOUTH SIDE OF OLD POST ROAD.
UM, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S PROGRESS BEING MADE ON THAT, OR HAS THERE BEEN A BIT OF DELAY SINCE YOUR LAST COMMUNICATION THERE? HOW DO YOU, WHAT IS YOUR OVERALL TEMPERATURE ON THAT? I WAS PLANNING TO MEET WITH THE OWNER, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT THEY HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY, SO THAT DELAYED THAT HAPPENING, UH, SO LAST AND WHEN CAN WE MEET? SO I WANTED HIM TO PHYSICALLY SEE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, NO MISTAKES ON, ON, ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO OUT THERE.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING HE'S GOING TO BE HERE IN NEXT WEEK.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA TRY TO ASK HIM TO VISIT THE SITE.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S OKAY WITH HIS, UH, AND GET TO GET HIS APPROVAL TO START THE BACK IN THAT SECTION.
WE STILL HAVE TO RECONNECT THE WATER LINE THERE, THAT'S THERE.
AND ONCE WE DO THAT, THEN WE CAN TURN THE COUNTY LOOSE IN THAT SECTION.
AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TO THAT.
I'M SURE THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES AS WELL.
AND, AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK
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WITH THEM AND FIND A AMICABLE A WAY FORWARD.WHAT IS THE PROJECTED TIMELINE FOR COMPLETION ON THAT ONE AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER ORIGINALLY, IT WAS NOVEMBER, OBVIOUSLY.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE NOVEMBER.
WE STILL HAVE THE NORTH HALF TO DO.
UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, UH, UH, CONCRETE COMPANY.
ALSO, WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A DRAIN EASEMENT FROM THEM, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT TO GET THAT WRAPPED UP.
SO PIPE HAS BEEN ORDERED FOR THE NORTH END OF THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE INSTALLING SOME NEW CULVERTS.
SO THE PIPE IS GOING TO BE DELIVERED TOMORROW AS A MATTER OF FACT.
SO WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING READY FOR THAT NORTH HALF AND TURN THE CONTRACTOR LOOSE.
THERE'S STILL GONNA BE THE QUESTION OF THAT FINAL TWO INCHES OF HOT MIX THAT HAS TO BE LAID.
SO, UH, WE STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT RESOLVED YET FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY WANTS US TO DO THAT, BUT THAT MAKES SENSE.
UH, AND THEN, UH, MY FINAL QUESTIONS WILL BE ABOUT WINDY HILL STREET.
SO, UH, YOU SHOW ON HERE THAT IT'S 98% COMPLETE THOUGH.
WENDY HE'LL WALK THROUGH WAS DONE TODAY.
SO ARE WE, UH, SO THERE'S JUST SOME LIGHT, UH, FINAL LITTLE TOUCHES THAT NEED TO BE DONE ON THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL BE FINISHED THERE.
WE HAVE THE, THAT REMAINS, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE PEDESTRIAN MOUNTING THAT WE NEED TO INSTALL THE PROBLEM WITH THE PEDESTRIAN RATTLING THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED.
UH, WE NEED TO WRAP THAT UP BECAUSE OF THE GLS REQUIREMENTS TO GET THIS CONTRACT WRAPPED UP BY OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, I BELIEVE.
AND THAT RAILING TAKES TIME TO BE MANUFACTURED AND BROUGHT IN.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK AROUND THAT AND GET THAT DONE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION OF TIME, UH, WITH, FROM THE GLO TO WRAP UP THE PROJECT, BUT A SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE IT SHOULD BE IN OCTOBER.
WELL, UH, AND I KNOW WE HAD ASSISTANT COMMENT EARLIER.
IT WAS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR STREET AND ABOUT THE SIGNAGE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO A POINT WELL TAKEN, I THINK, FROM OUR RESIDENT.
UH, BUT I THINK THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE WITH IT.
SO, UH, IT'S EXCITING TO HAVE THAT DONE.
I KNOW THAT RIGHT TURN LANE TO GO INTO, UH, AMBERWOOD IS HUGE FOR TRAFFIC.
AND THEN THE, THE TURNING LANE, UH, TO TURN LEFT AS WELL IS, UH, A GAME CHANGER FOR THAT AREA.
I MAY OR MAY NOT LIVE IN THAT AREA, BUT, UH, UH, SO, UH, I I'VE SEEN A MAJOR DIFFERENCE AND IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD OVER THERE.
[VIII. Consent Agenda]
AGENDA CUSTOMERS THOUGH, MARY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, 8, 9, 11, AND 12.SO I'M GOING TO READ MY MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, EIGHT, 11, AND 12.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, FLORIST, KALE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT, 11, AND 12.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[9. Approve a Change Order in the amount of $126,065.65 to T. F. Harper & Associates, LP, for Additional Electrical Required at Mary Kyle Hartson Park. ~ James R. Earp, Assistant City Manager]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, APPROVE A CHANGE ORDER IN THE AMOUNT OF $126,065 AND 65 CENTS TO TF HARPER FOR ELECTRICAL REQUIRED AT MERRITT COLLEGE PARK CUSTOMERS, OR YOU PULLED THIS OUT.LET ME BEGIN BY ASKING WHO INITIATED THESE ADDITIONAL CHANGES? WAS IT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY REQUESTS? YES.
SO THESE CHANGES ALL REFLECT THE COST TO CHANGE FROM HAVING THREE DIFFERENT FEEDS IN THE PARK THAT ARE OVERHEAD TO ONE FEED THAT'S UNDERGROUND.
WHENEVER WE ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR THE CONTRACTORS TO PROVIDE THEIR BEST PRICE TO US, WE HAD NOT MADE THAT COMMITMENT AS A CITY TO GO AHEAD AND PURSUE PEC, TO LOOK AT SPENDING THE DOLLARS TO REROUTE AND TAKE THE OVERHEAD LINES DOWN AROUND THE PARK AND MOVE THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, BLOCKS BACK OR INTO THE ALLEYS IN CERTAIN CASES.
SO ORIGINALLY THE POWER FEED WAS, WAS, UM, I GUESS IT WAS DE-CENTRALIZED TO WHERE IT WAS BEING FED FROM, YOU KNOW, A POLE ON ONE SIDE, A PULL OVER HERE, PULL OVER HERE, AND IT WAS ALL FEEDING IN.
WHENEVER WE MADE THE DECISION AS A CITY TO GO UNDERGROUND, THEY HAD TO REWORK ALL OF THEIR ELECTRICAL AND EFFECTIVELY HAVE MADE LIKE AN ELECTRICAL HIGHWAY UNDER THE PROMENADE AND PULLED EVERYTHING NOW OVER INTO THE FAR CORNER, UH, WHICH WOULD BE THE, IT'D BE THE SOUTHWEST CORNER ON MILLER STREET IN BURLESON.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE, THE PEDESTAL WILL BE SET.
THE NEW PEC FEED WILL BE THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A THREE-PHASE FEED INSTEAD OF MULTIPLE SINGLE PHASE.
SO IT'D BE A THREE-PHASE FEED WITH THE PANELS.
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SO THEY HAD TO GO TO THREE PHASE PANELS AND THAT'S A LOT OF THE COST DIFFERENTIAL.UM, ALSO HAD THIS REVIEWED BY, UH, BOB WITH AGC, EM, BECAUSE THEY CERTAINLY DID HAVE SOME ELECTRICAL COSTS IN THEIR ORIGINAL BID.
SO HE WENT THROUGH AND MADE SURE THAT THIS IS ONLY THE EXTRA STUFF THAT WE WERE HAVING TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT PAYING FOR, UH, TO MAKE THE CONTRACTOR WHOLE.
SO IT WAS T OF HARPER ACTUALLY DOING ALL THIS STUFF, WHERE ARE THEY BIDDING IT OUT? OKAY.
SO ALL THE ELECTRICAL WORK IS GOING TO BE DONE BY THEN.
UM, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I KNOW ON THE NEXT PAGE, THERE'S ANOTHER INCREASE THAT ASK FOR THE SAME FOR THE PARK AND SORRY.
IT IS FOR THE PART, BUT THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND I'LL, I'LL PROPOSE THAT WHENEVER THAT ITEMS HERE.
OKAY, WELL THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA, AGENDA ITEM NINE.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CUSTOMER FORCE, KALE SECONDED BY COUNCILOR RIZZO, THE APPROVED AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
[10. Approval of a citywide trail master plan. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager
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UM, I GUESS MY, UH, QUESTIONS TO SCOTT SELLERS, SCOTT, I WAS LOOKING AT, I FORGOT WHAT PAGE IT IS.
I THINK IT'S THE THIRD OR FOURTH PAGE.
IT SAYS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY TO HIRE FOUR PERSON CONCRETE CREW TO BEGIN WORK ON THE VIBE.
UM, AND THAT KIND OF CONCERNS ME.
AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT? I I'VE NEVER SEEN A CREW THAT SMALL WORK ON SIDEWALKS.
THE MINIMUM OF CREW I'VE EVER SEEN AT THE MINIMUM HAS BEEN A SIX PERSON CREW.
I'M LOOKING AT WHAT THE DUTIES ARE AND THAT'S A DUMP TRUCK.
THAT'S A, SKID-STEER, UH, YOU'VE GOT THREE GUYS FORMING.
SO YOU YOU'VE THE MINIMUM EVER SEEN IS A SIX PERSON CREW.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT TRYING TO DO THIS WITH A FOUR PERSON CREW, BUT I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT NOT GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE THERE, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE THAT ARE SKILLED AND QUALIFIED.
SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE THAT, AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
IT NEEDS TO BE AN EXPERIENCED CREW SO WE CAN GET THE BEST AMOUNT OF WORK OUT THERE, UH, PER DAY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN BECAUSE IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA PUT THEM TOGETHER AND IT'S GOING TO BE SHAMBLES.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING THIS EARLY ON MAYOR COUNCIL SCOUT.
SO IS FOR THE RECORD, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, I TEND TO AGREE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS IN THE PLAN THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE COMPLETELY FINALIZED YET.
OUR GOAL IN BRINGING THE PLAN FORWARD TONIGHT FOR APPROVAL IS THAT THIS BECOMES A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT, AND WE PLAN TO BRING FORWARD ADDITIONAL UPDATES AS NECESSARY.
ONE OF THOSE IS THIS CONCRETE CREW.
UH, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR IN-HOUSE CAPABILITIES ARE VERSUS POTENTIAL OUTSOURCING.
WE DO HAVE A, A, A FULL MAINTENANCE CREW RIGHT NOW.
UH, BUT UNTIL THE TRAIL IS BUILT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAINTENANCE SIDE IS REALLY MORE IN THE, IN THE NATURAL SIDE, RATHER THAN THE CONCRETE MAINTENANCE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE DUTIES MIGHT ENTAIL FOR ONE.
BUT THE SECOND THING IS WE ARE, UH, CONSIDER OFFERING THE, THE TOTAL LINEAR FOOTAGE OF TRAILS THAT, THAT NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED VIA CONCRETE VERSUS, UH, THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER SECTIONS THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPER FUNDED.
UH, THERE ARE SECTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY ON EXISTING SIDEWALK.
THERE ARE SECTIONS THAT, UH, WOULD GO INTO THE STREET WHERE A SIDEWALK COULD NOT BE BUILT.
AND, UH, AS WE'RE LOOKING CLOSER AT THAT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES MUCH LESS OF A DAUNTING TASK FOR A FOUR OR SIX PERSON CREW TO BUILD OVER 50 MILES OF TRAILS.
IT ACTUALLY ONLY MAY BE FIVE TO 10 MILES.
UH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, LET'S SAY IT IS ONLY FIVE MILES, THEN IT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE TO OUTSOURCE THAT CONSTRUCTION PIECE AND THEN LEAVE THE MAINTENANCE TO OUR EXISTING MAINTENANCE CREW.
UH, WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH OUR IN-HOUSE ENGINEER, JEFF PREDO TO DEVELOP ATYPICALS AND STANDARDS SECTION THAT WILL GO IN THE DOCUMENT.
AND THEN WE WILL BRING THAT BACK FOR APPROVAL.
UH, WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH OUR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT, UH, JASON KLONTZ FROM CATALYST COMMERCIAL, UH, WHO YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM A LITTLE LATER.
AND, UH, THAT TAKES A MUCH DEEPER LOOK AT EACH OF THE, THE VIBES SPOTS THAT ARE CALLED OUT IN THE DOCUMENT.
AND ONCE WE HAVE THE, UH, THE EDITS FOR THAT, THAT SECTION, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AS WELL.
SO, UH, AGAIN, LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT, BUT I COMPLETELY AGREE.
THINGS ARE BOUND TO CHANGE FROM IT.
I'M HAPPY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT APPROVAL OF THIS PLAN TONIGHT, UH, WITH A
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SIX PERSON CREW OR JUST A PR FIRM, IT, AS IT IS KNOWING THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT ARE FORTHCOMING.I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT A CHANGE ONLY REASON.
THEY'D JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REMEMBER, UH, AND, UH, THAT WE ADDRESS THAT.
UH, SO THAT WAY MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE NOT PUTTING PRESSURE ON A SMALL SKELETON CREW TO DO THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK.
AND JUST TO HAVE THAT IN THERE, IT JUST REASSURES ME.
I MAYBE JUST RECOMMEND A SIX, SIX PERSON CONCRETE CREW OR OUTSOURCED.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 10.
NO, YOU STILL, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR THOUGH.
SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
SO LET ME MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER 10 WITH THIS ADDITIONAL TWO STAFF MEMBERS OR OUTSIDE SOURCING THE PROJECT.
IF IT'S MORE EQUITABLE, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCIL RIZZO, SECONDED BY COUNSELOR.
REMEMBER TOBY S THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, UH, AND ADD TWO ADDITIONAL MEMBERS TO THE, UM, UH, RECOMMENDED, UM, TRAIL CONSTRUCTION CREW OR OUTSOURCING PER DISCUSSION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COMES FROM FORCED? YES, I HAVE.
UM, I WAS HOPING TO GET IT IN BEFORE THAT, BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, SO THE FIRST CA MY FIRST CONCERN IS USING CONCRETE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO USE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE POROUS, UM, SINCE THIS IS GOING TO GO FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST SIDE AND LOOKING AT THE MAP, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN SOME AREAS OF, OF FLOODING.
SO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESEARCH WAS PUT INTO THAT AS FAR AS LAYING CONCRETE VERSUS ASPHALT OR SOMETHING, A LITTLE MORE POROUS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, AND THEN I CAN, I CAN HIT MY OTHER NOTES UP.
UH, WE, WE HAVE RESEARCHED CONCRETE VERSUS A VARIETY OF OTHER MATERIALS AND, UH, HAVE PUT OUR, OUR EYES AS WELL AS OUR FEET ON SEVERAL OF THESE DIFFERENT MATERIALS, UH, WHEN IT CAME TO POROUS MATERIAL IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AREAS, WHICH IS A LARGE PORTION IN ONE WASN'T THAT YOU JUST CALLED OUT, UH, THE MAINTENANCE FOR POROUS MATERIAL IS, IS EXTREMELY DEMANDING.
THE DIRT AND DEBRIS THAT, UH, FALLS IN BETWEEN THE CRACKS OF THE SMALL ROCKS HAS TO BE ROUTINELY VACUUMED OUT AND MAINTAIN THEM.
SO IT CREATES JUST A, UH, A VERY EXPENSIVE ONGOING MAINTENANCE PROBLEM.
UH, IN ADDITION, SOME OF THAT, UH, THE MATERIAL FOR, FOR POROUS PAVEMENT, UH, TENDS TO NOT BE SO DESIRABLE FROM A RECREATIONAL STANDPOINT, UH, BOTH IN THAT IT CATCHES ON SOULS OF, OF FEET.
UH, SO WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING OR STROLLING, SOMETIMES IT TENDS TO GRAB YOUR SOULS.
UH, AND THEN THE, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF MODALITIES ON THE TRAIL DIFFER, UH, PER THE TYPE.
SO THE MOST UNIVERSAL MATERIAL TYPE IS CONCRETE, UH, PUSHING A SMALL WHEELER OR, YOU KNOW, STRAPPING ON SMALL WHEEL, UH, ROLLERBLADES SKATES, ET CETERA, UH, IS, IS NOT AS CONDUCIVE TO THAT TYPE OF MATERIAL SKATEBOARDS, ET CETERA.
SO THE, THE TRAIL TASKFORCE LOOKED AT EACH OF THOSE MATERIALS, UH, EXAMINED TO DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH AND DETERMINED, UH, THAT CONCRETE WAS THE BEST MATERIAL TO USE.
AND THIS WAS ALSO CONFIRMED, UH, THROUGH OUR VISIT TO PEACHTREE CITY, GEORGIA, WHERE THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY IS CONQUERED.
I GUESS I WASN'T AWARE THAT THERE WAS A TRAIL TASKFORCE.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHO IS ON THAT TASK FORCE? I CAN PULL THAT UP.
I KNOW THAT I'VE PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED INFORMATION LIKE THIS, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GUYS GO ON TRIPS, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM RECEIVING THAT INFORMATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST STAY UP TO DATE ON THEM.
AND ALSO IF THERE IS A TASK FORCE LIKE THIS, I KNOW NOT TO GO TO TOBY IS COACH OR REX OR DECK.
UM, SO IF WE COULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UP-TO-DATE ON THAT JUST TO AVOID ANY TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT VIOLATIONS.
WELL, I'M STILL NOT, I'M STILL NOT IN FAVOR OF CONCRETE NECESSARILY.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE IN WRITING AND PRESENTED TO US AS FAR AS, UM, THE BENEFITS OF ONE OVER ANOTHER.
AND I'M NOT EVEN SAYING IT HAS TO BE ASPHALT.
IT COULD BE, WE COULD BE A LITTLE NEW AGE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THE CONCRETE, BECAUSE OUR TEXAS HEAT AND OUR TEXAS WATERS, UM, MAKE IT REALLY DIFFICULT FOR US TO LIKE MAINTAIN.
I MEAN, I COULD JUST WALK IN THE FRONT OF MY SIDEWALK IN THE FRONT OF MY SUBDIVISION AND SEE
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WHAT THE HEAT AND THE FLOODING DOES TO THE CONCRETE.SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, UM, IF YOU HAVE AN UPDATE FROM POZAC, UH, EXCUSE ME.
SO THANK YOU FOR ASKING WE DID, AS A CITY ARE PRESENT ARE, UH, SEVERAL REQUESTS TO THE COUNTY PARKS AND OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND THEY, UH, I THINK WERE, WERE VERY FAVORABLE OF OUR THREE REQUESTS.
UH, THESE ARE THREE REQUESTS OR THREE PROJECTS THAT ALSO APPEARED ON THE NOVEMBER, 2020 BALLOT.
UH, SO, UH, EAST SIDE TRAILS WAS ONE THAT WE, WE, UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT, UH, DEFINITELY FALLS WITHIN THIS VIBE TRAIL PLAN.
UH, GREAT CLARK PARK WAS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT, UH, WOULD RECEIVE HOPEFULLY SOME, SOME PRETTY MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WITH THE ADDITIONAL COUNTY FUNDING TO MATCH THE CITY FUNDING.
AND THEN, UH, THE BRICK AND MORTAR AREAS, SPORTS, PLEX IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE DID PRESENT EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS.
WE, WE WRAPPED ALL THREE TOGETHER AS THEY WOULD RELATE TO THE VIBE, UH, AND, UH, REALLY WHAT THEY WOULD DO FROM A RECREATIONAL, UH, OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION, UH, ATTRACTION, UH, AMENITY, AND, AND, AND ESPECIALLY THE, THE OVERARCHING HEALTH AMENITY FOR, FOR UTILIZING THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND ENJOYING THE OUTDOOR AREAS.
SO I FEEL LIKE THE PRESENTATION WENT WELL AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THE, THE POST SAC RECEIVED THE PRESENTATION.
WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHEN I THINK MID NOVEMBER ROUGHLY IS WHEN THEY WILL HAVE THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR FUNDING AND, UH, WE WILL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED.
SO IF NO FUNDING COMES FROM THEM, IS IT GOING TO BE STRICTLY FUNDED BY THE CITY? AND WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? UH, SO FAR WE, WE HAVE, UH, THE CITY $10 MILLION, WHICH WAS APPROVED AGAIN, THAT WAS SPLIT $7 MILLION FOR THE SPORTS PLEX, UH, $2 MILLION FOR EAST SIDE TRAIL AND $1 MILLION FOR GREAT CLARK PARK.
WE ALSO HAVE RECEIVED SOME FUNDING FROM TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT OR THE TRAIL SYSTEM, AND THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PURSUING OTHER AVENUES OF FUNDING FOR THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
SO AT THIS POINT, IT IS JUST THE CITY PLUS TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE FUNDING, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY WE WILL, WE WILL RECEIVE MORE AND WE WILL KEEP LOOKING FOR THOSE AS WE'VE MOVED FORWARD.
SO DID THE TASK FORCE CREATE THIS MAP AND THE VIBES IN, WITHIN THE MAP? UH, YES.
MA'AM THE TASK FORCE OF COUNSEL, WHICH ALSO HAS, UH, I WANT TO SAY SIX OR SEVEN STAFF MEMBERS ON IT AS WELL.
SO COLLECTIVELY WE WENT THROUGH THE, THE, UH, CITY, UH, ANALYZED OPEN SPACE AREAS, ANALYZED WAYS THAT WE COULD REDUCE THAT GRADE CROSSINGS AND, UH, PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY TO BASICALLY ALL AREAS AROUND THE CITY.
AND, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE IN THAT PLAN IS, UH, THE RESULTS OF MANY, MANY HOURS OF, OF LOOKING AT THE CITY AND, AND CREATING THIS, THIS TRAIL SYSTEM.
UM, AND THEN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, UM, WHY, WHAT LOGIC YOU GUYS USED TO PUT SEVEN VIBES ON THE EAST SIDE AND 16 ON THE WEST SIDE? SO THE VIBES ARE, UH, WHAT WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH FROM A DEVELOPER, UH, FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.
SO THOSE VIBES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN AGAIN, AS A PLAN IS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT MEANT, CAN CHANGE.
UH, HOWEVER, THESE ARE DEVELOPMENT AREAS WHERE THE CITY HAS BEEN APPROACHED OR DISCUSSED, UH, THOSE AREAS THAT ARE STILL GREEN SPACE FOR DEVELOPMENT.
UH WE'D OF COURSE, WELCOME MORE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE TRAIL NETWORK, EAST SIDE OR WEST SIDE.
UH, BUT THESE WERE THE ONES THAT HAVE ALREADY EITHER APPROACHED THE CITY OR, UH, BECAME OPPORTUNITY AREAS WITH THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN.
SO WE CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE VIBES TO THIS.
AND THEN MY VERY LAST QUESTION I PROMISE, UM, IS GOING TO BE, UM, W WHO CAME UP WITH VIBE.
I DON'T LIKE THAT NAME AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE.
UM, BUT I, I WAS, I GUESS I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHY WE DIDN'T GET A LITTLE BIT MORE RESIDENT INVOLVEMENT IN NAMING SUCH AN AMAZING, UM, LIKE A TRAIL.
I, I I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, EITHER ONLINE VOTE
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OR, OR SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN HAVE OUR RESIDENTS MAYBE TELL US WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE.UH, THE NAME DID COME FROM THE TASK FORCE IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IT, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL.
UH, WE DID HAVE A, UH, AN OPEN HOUSE WITH THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS A SURVEY THAT WAS ADMINISTERED.
IT DID NOT HAVE THE NAME, UH, VIBE THAT, THAT DID COME LATER, BUT WE DID TRY TO SOLICIT AS MUCH INPUT FROM THE CITIZENRY THROUGH TO DIFFERENT SURVEY METHODS AND AN OPEN HOUSE.
SO IN THAT SURVEY, DID IT DISK GOING BACK TO CONCRETE? DID IT DISCUSS WHAT KIND OF, UM, ROAD THAT THE RESIDENTS WANTED TO SEE? IT DID MENTION TRAIL TYPES AND ASKS FOR OPINIONS ABOUT TRAIL TYPES AND WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OUTCOME WAS, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT THE FIRST ONE WAS TO LEAVE A NATURAL TRAIL, IS THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO.
SO IS THAT DOABLE? WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING, OR WOULD THAT BE TOO HARD TO MAINTAIN? YEAH, UH, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO, UH, DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AND WE'LL CALL THEM NATURAL TRAILS AS POSSIBLE.
UH, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT VERY WELL DOWN IN THE, THE PLUM CREEK DRAINAGE AREA.
AND THERE WILL BE SEVERAL MILES OF OPEN SPACE TRAILS.
WE WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WELL IN THE FAR WEST AREA AROUND THESE SIX CREEKS BLINK RIVER RANCH AREA, UH, WITHIN THE PHYSICALLY BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF THE CITY.
UH WE'RE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT, UH, WHERE WE CAN, WE WILL, UH, CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN ACTUAL TRAILERS.
MY ONLY REQUEST WOULD BE TO MAYBE GET A LITTLE MORE INPUT ABOUT THE NAME FROM OUR RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S NOT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO THE TASKFORCE THAT SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND I'M SURE EFFORT ON THIS, BUT, UM, I THINK THE CITY DOES A LOT OF STUFF AND IT, AND IT DOES IT KIND OF IN A TASKFORCE WAY.
AND I'D LIKE TO GET THE FEEDBACK OF, UH, OF THE RESIDENTS IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CUSTOMER, ELSA, UH, POINT WE'LL TAKE HIM COUNSEL MOVE FORWARD TO GO.
UH, SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS, UH, AND COACH AND IRR SIT ON THE, UH, TASK FORCE FOR THIS, UH, THIS ONE'S BEEN VERY CHALLENGING FOR ME.
UM, JUST TO THE POINT OF, I THINK NO ONE PROBABLY IS THIS TAKES HIM OFF GUARD, BUT I I'VE BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF NATURE TRAILS.
I THINK THAT A TRAIL CERTAINLY IS, UH, MEANT TO GO AS NATURE AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING WITH THIS HERE IS A MULTI-USE PATH.
I'D PROBABLY RATHER USE PATH THAN TRAIL ON, ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, UH, JUST AS A POINT OF STICKLER OF TERM TERMINOLOGY HERE.
UH, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH TASK FORCE IS SOMETIMES THERE'S COMPROMISE AND COHESIVENESS, AND WE, WE, WE MOVED TOGETHER TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, TO EITHER ACCEPT OR REJECT, UH, SOMETIMES, UH, YOU'RE JUST OUTNUMBERED.
AND, UH, I THINK I'M OUTNUMBERED ON THIS ONE AND I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS, UH, TRAIL PLAN.
I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO SOLIDIFY AND CODIFY IN THIS PLAN, MORE, UH, TRUE TRAILS, WHICH ARE OUR NATURE AND MOSTLY UNIMPROVED TRAILS.
UH, I THINK THAT'S THE, THE EXCITEMENT OF IT, OF, OF A TRAIL IS GOING OUT AND BEING IN NATURE AND NOT HAVING A CONCRETE AND IMPROVED AREA.
I THINK THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN AUSTIN THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO, UH, FOLLOW, BUT I WILL SAY PARKS AND TRAILS ARE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE CITY OF COLLEGE IS DOING WELL.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS OBVIOUS CITY OF AUSTIN IS DOING WELL, AND I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON TRAILS IN MY LIFE.
AND MOST OF THEM, UM, TRUE TRAILS, UH, TRUE NATURE ONES ARE UNIMPROVED.
AND, UH, FOR ME, UH, I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO WEIGH THIS AND GET ON BOARD WITH IT, BUT AS IT STANDS, I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS PLAN.
UH, AS OF YET, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DO YOU DON'T MIND, UM, BEING ON THE TRAILS TASKFORCE? UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I DID AS WELL HAVE SOME, UH, ISSUES WITH, UM, UH, I'M JUST EXCITED THAT WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO THIS POINT.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE MAKING THE MOTION AS A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW, TO GO FROM
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THERE AND THERE COULD BE CHANGES THAT CAN BE MADE.UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE REALLY WANT TO GET THIS GOING, BUT I, UH, I DO, UM, UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.
UM, AS FAR AS KALE ABOUT THE CONCRETE, UH, WE DID, UH, I REALLY W WHEN I DID GO TO THE, UH, AREA IN GEORGIA, I REALLY, UM, SPOKE TO THE INDIVIDUALS THERE AND THEIR CITY COUNCIL ABOUT LIKELY, OKAY.
WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ASPHALT VERSUS THE CONCRETE? OF COURSE, UM, A LOT OF THEM WERE SAYING JUST, IT'S JUST CONTINUOUS MAINTENANCE THAT HAS TO BE DONE ON IT BECAUSE IT'S SNOWS UP THERE, IT RAINS AND ALL THAT STUFF EVENTUALLY DETERIORATES IN TIME.
SO THERE'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL COST VERSUS CONCRETE HERE.
UH, I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE SOIL THAT WE HAVE HERE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT WON'T, IT FLOODS IT FLOODS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMETHING WITH A VERY STRONG STRUCTURED TO WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S LASTING.
SO, UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHY THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CONCRETE.
AND ALSO, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN NELSON.
WE NEED TO KEEP SOME OF THAT TRAIL AS MUCH NATURAL AS POSSIBLE ON THAT END, UM, COMING FROM LIVING IN AUSTIN MANY YEARS AND GOING DOWNTOWN LAKE, UH, THAT WAS THE WHOLE VIBE OF WHY I ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HERE.
AND, UM, AS MUCH AS I WANT TO GET THIS GOING, UH, I THINK COUNCIL, UH, CITY MANAGER, SCOTT SELLERS KNEW THAT I WAS NOT A VERY FOND OF THE VIBE AS WELL ON THAT END.
UH, I, I FELT LIKE SINCE WE WERE GOING TO BE INVESTING IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IF THERE'S A, MAYBE A CONSIDERATION OF, OF ANOTHER NAME OF SOME SORTS, YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S A RADIO STATION RIGHT NOW CALLED THE VIBE AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT I KNOW ABOUT, BUT, UH, GOING FROM THERE, UH, I DO LIKE TO TRY TO GET THIS, UH, APPROVED, AND IF WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES AS WE GO ALONG, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU TOUCHED ON EARLIER, SCOTT WAS THAT ONLY SOME OF THIS IS GOING TO BE CONCRETE.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE AREAS THAT, UM, AND WASH OUT AREAS THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO BE ACCESSIBLE WHEN IT RAINS, YOU KNOW, OUR TRAIL SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WALK IT FROM A WATER LEAK PART TO, UH, ALL THE WAY TO OUR, UM, LAKE KYLE, THERE'S SOME TIMES THROUGHOUT THE SEASONS THAT YOU CAN WALK IT, CAUSE IT'S JUST CONTINUOUSLY MUDDY.
SO YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON THAT.
SO THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS AND, AND BE ABLE TO, UM, ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE THIS AT ALL TIMES, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST GOOD WEATHER.
SO THERE THERE'S SOME AREAS WE CAN IMPROVE ON, BUT THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A COMPLETE CONCRETE TRAIL.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE ITS SECTIONS.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, NATURAL PATROL AS WELL.
AND I THINK, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, BUT JUST TO REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, NO, WE GOT REACHED OUT TO, BY RESIDENT ABOUT HAVING A LOT MORE NATURAL TRAILS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE AWESOME HAVING THE NATURAL TRAIL SYSTEM, BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS TO KEEP THAT CONNECTIVITY ALIVE.
WE'LL HAVE TO PUT SOME CONCRETE DOWN, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE SHOULD BE ALL NATURAL.
A LOT OF NATURAL SURFACES IS WHAT MY HOPE IS.
ANYONE ELSE CAN I SUGGEST THAT WE CALL IT A MULTI-USE PATH LIKE MR. ELLISON SAID, CAUSE I THINK I I'M ON BOARD WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT A TRAIL.
UM, I, TO ME DRILLS ARE LIKE DIRT AND LONG AND I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'LL, IT'LL FIT SOME ASPECTS, BUT, UM, I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUT GOLF CARTS ON IT IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY QUALIFY IT AS A REGULAR TRAIL.
UM, AND SO TO STAY TRUE TO WHAT IT IS, WE JUST CALL IT, YOU KNOW, THE MULTI-USE PATH WHAT'S THAT? I DON'T THINK IT'S NITPICKY, IT'S BEING HONEST AND TRUE.
I MEAN, IF WE TELL SOMEONE FROM AUSTIN, HEY, COME, COME RUN ON A TRAIL AND THEN THEY GET HIT BY A GOLF CART.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE LIKE, HEY, A TRAIL, DOESN'T HAVE A GOLF CART.
IT'S NOT BEING NITPICKY IS BEING TRANSPARENT.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY MY POINT THAT I GET THAT THE IDEA IS THAT, BUT IT'S NOT CODIFIED IN THIS PLAN.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT IN THE PLAN SHOWING WHERE WE TRULY WILL COMMIT TO NATURE PARTS OF THE TRAIL.
THAT THAT'S THE THING THAT'S CONCERNING ME IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT TRULY CODIFIED HERE.
AND THAT'S A LESSON I LEARNED FROM THE LAST, UH, COUPLE TASKFORCE AGO IS THAT YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE PLAN.
AND SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE TASKS FOR US KIND OF TAKE OVER AND, AND KIND OF HAVE A, AN IDEA OF THEIR OWN.
AND FOR ME, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO LOOK AT THIS AND BE INVOLVED IN THE MAP AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE CHANGES.
SO I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT CODIFIED AS WELL.
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KNOW YOU GUYS WERE JUST IN GEORGIA LIKE FOUR WEEKS AGO, SO I THINK THIS IS MOVING REALLY FAST AND AS MUCH AS I LOVE IT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM IN JUST HOLDING OFF ANOTHER MEETING OR TWO UNTIL WE CAN GET SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SOLID.SO SCOTT, THIS IS JUST A DOCUMENT, CORRECT.
SO IT'S ALMOST, UH, LIKE OUR, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT, IT, IT, UH, IT'S A SUGGESTION, SO WE COULD STILL MAKE CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENTS LIFE, CORRECT.
IT'S A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT.
AND THE REASON WHY WE WOULD, WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD NOW, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE ITERATIVE CHANGES, FORTHCOMING, BECAUSE WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH SOME DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE VIBER, THE TRAIL NETWORK, THE PATH, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT.
THESE AREAS THAT UNDER DEVELOPMENT IN BEING PLANNED RIGHT NOW NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS THE OFFICIAL DIRECTION OF COUNCIL TO INCORPORATE A 12 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE PATH IN THEIR DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THEN THE ASSOCIATED, UH, CONDITIONAL USE, UH, PLAN THE, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AS IT RELATES TO THESE, THESE AREAS, UH, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S JUST A LOT THAT THAT IS STILL FORTHCOMING, BUT THIS SIGNALS, THE COUNCIL'S INTENT THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED TO THE PLAN.
AND YOU WOULD LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO FOLLOW SCOTT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THE REQUEST? IS THERE A, DO YOU THINK IT'S WITHIN YOUR ABILITY TO, UH, NARROW DOWN, GET MORE GRANULAR ABOUT WHICH PORTIONS ARE PROPOSED TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FULL MULTIMODAL THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING DISCUSSING AND WHICH, WHICH, WHICH PATHS ARE, ARE, ARE STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THERE, HOW WIDE THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE COMPOSED OF.
THAT THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING.
I'M NOT SURE AS A TIMING WISE, IT'LL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING OR THE FOLLOWING, BUT AS YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ALL COUNCIL KNOWS.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT.
AND SO, UH, THESE UPDATES AND THESE MAP REVISIONS WILL COME PRETTY QUICKLY BACK TO COUNCIL SO WHAT MESSAGE ARE YOU WANTING TO SIN? BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A WE'RE IN A SPLIT VOTE SITUATION ON IT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH OF IT IS GOING TO BE CONCRETE, THE, THE AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY NATURAL.
SO IF WE THINK ABOUT THE, THE NON BUILT ENVIRONMENT, UH, OF KYLE ALONG THE PLUM CREEK, EAST KYLE, AND THEN, UH, SOME OF OUR DRAINAGE BELTS WEST KYLE DOWN TO THE BLANK OVER THOSE AREAS ARE THE PRIMARY AREAS WHERE WE CAN HAVE NATURAL TRAILS, EITHER, YOU KNOW, PROXIMATE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WE CAN, OTHER SIDE OF THE CREEK, ET CETERA, UH, THERE RIGHT NOW, NOT NECESSARILY THE PRIMARY DEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UH, SOME OF THE, THE MAIN FOCUS AREAS ARE WITHIN THE BUILT MORE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, WHICH DON'T REALLY LEND THEMSELVES TOWARD A NATURAL TRAIL WITH THAT SAID, WE WILL TRY TO IDENTIFY THOSE NATURAL TRAIL SEGMENTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND, AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED MANY ALREADY, UH, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, HOPEFULLY EVEN TO THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KEY IS THESE SEVERAL.
I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR I CAN THINK OF RIGHT NOW, DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE REALLY JUST WAITING TO KNOW IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL, BUT AGAIN, THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE MORE IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND LESS THAN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ROLL CALL, VOTE BRADSHAW.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THESE TRAILS INDIVIDUALLY ELLISON COACH.
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(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of assigning original zoning to approximately 318 total acres (PUD Zoning - 256 acres to Single Family Attached ‘R-1-A’) (43.92 to Apartments Residential-3 ‘R-3-3’) (18.38 acres to Retail Service District ‘RS’) for property located at 700 Bunton Lane and 800 Bunton Lane, in Hays County, Texas. (RPC Kyle, LLC and Kyle 120 LLC - Z-21-0088) ~ William Atkinson, City Planner
P&Z voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the request.
- Public Hearing
FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ASSIGNING ORIGINAL ZONING TO APPROXIMATELY 318 TOTAL ACRES,
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UH, PUD ZONING, UH, 256 ACRES SINGLE-FAMILY R ONE, A 43.92, UH, TO MULTI-FAMILY ARE 3, 3 18 0.38 ACRES TO RETAIL SERVICES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 700 BUTTON LANE, 800 BUTTON LANE AND HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, MR. WILKINSON, WELL, IF YOU WANT TO JUST PRESENT THE ITEM, THEN WE'LL HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN WE'LL HAVE COMMENTARY AFTER.
UM, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER NOW? THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO DO THEIR PRESENTATION FIRST, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
ANY OPPOSITION TO THAT, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE DEVELOPMENT? YES.
BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE ASSUME THERE'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING FIRST, MY NEW, BUT YES.
TYPICALLY YOU JUST GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN WE BRING THE APPLICANT UP.
THAT'S THE WAY WE NORMALLY DO IT.
UH, BEFORE WE, WE HAVE THE, UH, THE REZONING FOR, UM, Z DASH 21 DASH 0 1 0 8 8.
UM, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY WANTING TO DO A TOWN CENTER DEVELOPMENT.
UH, IT'S LARGELY RNA SURROUNDED BY, OR HAVING OUR THREE, THREE IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, AND THEN SOME RETAIL SERVICES AT THE VERY CORE, KIND OF LIKE A WEDDING CAKE, IF YOU WILL.
UM, THEY ASKED TO DO A PUD SO THEY COULD HAVE SOME, UM, SOME WAIVERS OF VARIOUS IS BUILT INTO THE PUTT STANDARDS TO MAKE ANY MORE URBAN TYPE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEY DO DOING A LOT OF THINGS TO MAKE OUR STANDARD DEVELOPMENT A LOT BETTER.
UM, THEY'RE WANTING TO CONVERT ONE OF THE, THE, THE OLD HOMESTEADS ON THE SIDE TO MAKE IT INTO A RESTAURANT, A NICE PLACE TO HAVE OUTDOOR DINING.
THEY WANT TO HAVE THE, THE, THE LIST IS ENDLESS.
UM, EVERYTHING THEY'RE ASKING THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM OUR CODE.
IT'S HONESTLY JUST TO MAKE IT A LOT BETTER.
THAT'S THE ATTENTIVE IT, UM, WITH A MORE URBAN FORM, REDO SETBACKS.
UM, SOME OF THE PARKING IS REDUCED, BUT THEY DO HAVE PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR.
UM, THEY HAVE A SCHOOL SITE PICKED OUT.
THEY HAVE, UM, VARYING LOT SIZES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AS WELL.
IT'S, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
HONESTLY, WE WERE WORKING WITH THEM FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF ON IT.
UM, THEY'VE ASKED TO GO AHEAD AND BRING IT FORWARD.
AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LARGELY SUPPORTS.
IT SAID, HE'S GONNA PROVIDE WASTEWATER.
UH, CAROLINE'S GONNA BE ON WATER.
UM, THERE'S A FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS AND TALKS ABOUT WHAT BETWEEN THE CITY AND US OR IN THE DEVELOPER.
SO, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND KIND OF PUSH IT THROUGH, THIS IS THEIR, UM, THEIR SLIDES, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE IT IS, UM, RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, SOUTHEAST OF AN ADJACENT TO THE BUNNY CREEK RESERVE, UH, PROJECT THAT'S ALMOST FINISHED.
THEY HAVE A EXTENSION OF GRISTMILL ROAD IN THERE AS WELL.
AND THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE TYING INTO THE PLUM.
CREEK'S A TRAIL SYSTEM AS WELL THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, THE, THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF IT.
THE TWO THIRDS IS OUR ONE, TWO, AND THE, UH, THE REMAINDER IS AG.
AND, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS RECENTLY ANNEXED AND THIS KIND OF SHOWS, UM, THE AREAS IN THE AREA THEY'VE GOT BUTTON LANE, WHICH IS NUMBER ONE, UM, ALONG WITH, UH, BUTLER CREEK AS WELL, GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY, UM, WILDLY PARKED TO THE SOUTHWEST AND THIS PROJECT HAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO BE SOMETHING GREAT.
UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? WE'LL DO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
SO, UM, SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
UH, I THINK THE APPLICANTS HERE IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME, DO YOU HAVE MORE, YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE UM, OVER READY? UH, MY NAME IS HUNTER FLOYD.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT WITH RASTAGAR PROPERTY COMPANY.
UM, AS WILLIAM MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF NOW, UH, JUST FIRST OFF, ONE OF THE THANK, UH, ALL KYLE'S CITY KYLE'S STAFF AND EVERYBODY THAT'S KIND OF HELPED WITH THIS.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN OUR TIME TO TRY AND GET THIS RIGHT AND CITY CALL'S BEEN FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH.
UM, AND, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS, SO THANK YOU.
UM, WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, UH, 2019, UH, ADDED ONTO IT, UH, IN 2020.
UM, AND INITIALLY WENT OUT TO THE PROPERTIES.
YOU JUST KIND OF EXPLORE IT AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT HAD TO OFFER.
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AND, AND FRANKLY FOUND A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND IN EAST KYLE, UH, TWO CREEKS, YOU'VE GOT PLUM CREEK, YOU'VE GOT BUNTIN CREEK.UM, WE SAW THAT AS A REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, PROVIDE KIND OF OUTDOOR ACCESS.
UM, THERE'S SOME, UH, OLD BARNS AS WILL MENTIONED AS WELL, UH, THAT ARE REALLY INTERESTING AND NEAT THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO SAVE, UH, AND TURN INTO A RESTAURANT AND KIND OF GATHERING SPACE.
UM, AND WE ALSO WENT OUT AND JUST SORT OF TALKED TO A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN EAST KYLE.
AND I THINK WE FOUND A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF HOMES, UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE REALLY PRIDEFUL, FRANKLY, ABOUT THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE, UM, WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF PLACES FOR THEM TO KIND OF GATHER, EAT, UM, REALLY FEEL A SENSE OF COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF THEIR HOMES AND SOME PARKS.
UM, SO WE SET OUT TO, TO REALLY CREATE, UM, KIND OF A NEW IDENTITY AND A, AND AN A POINT OF PRIDE, UH, IN EAST KYLE, UM, THAT, THAT RESPECTS THE PAST, UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF HAS A NOD TO THE FUTURE OF, I THINK WHAT THE CITY, UH, IS BECOMING.
UM, AND, AND TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE, WE SOUGHT OUT TO DO FROM THE, FROM THE GET GO.
AND THAT WAS, UH, OR ACTUALLY, I SHOULD SAY A FEW THINGS THAT WE, UH, WE SAW ANOTHER REALLY STRONG COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT WE WANTED TO CREATE HERE THAT, THAT WE SET OUT TO DO HERE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT NUMBER ONE, THEY ALL HAVE WALKABILITY.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PARAMOUNT TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.
EVERYTHING THAT WE DID IN OUR PLAN IS REALLY LOOKING TOWARDS, UH, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO WALK TO PLACES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND HAVE KIND OF A HOLISTIC EXPERIENCE SO THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, TO USE THE OVER OVERUSED TERM LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY, BUT IN THE SAME PLACE, UM, WE ALSO, UH, THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THERE WAS ACCESS TO A REALLY DIVERSE DEMOGRAPHIC.
UM, SO, SO WE SOUGHT OUT TO PROVIDE DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPE OLOGIES, UM, EVERYTHING FROM 60 FOOT, FROM A 60 FOOT, LOTS TO A 22 FOOT TOWNHOUSES, UM, AS WELL AS SOME RENTAL PRODUCT AS WELL.
SO THAT REALLY PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT STAGES OF THEIR LIVES, UM, WHETHER THEY'RE FAMILIES OR SINGLE PEOPLE, OR, UH, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, UH, ECONOMIC ABILITIES, UH, COULD AFFORD, UM, AND WANT TO LIVE IN THE LOCATION.
UM, WE ALSO THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, FOR CENTRAL TEXAS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE OUTDOORS AND HIKING TRAILS AND PATHS.
AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT PROVIDING THAT AS AN AMENITY, UM, FOR THE FUTURE RESIDENTS, NOT ONLY OF OUR COMMUNITY, ABOUT HAVING PUBLIC ACCESS TO, UH, THIS, THIS STRETCH OF, UM, BUNTING CREEK, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A REALLY BEAUTIFUL STRETCH, UH, AS WELL AS WHAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE UP, THERE IS A REALLY NICE POND, UM, THAT PEOPLE THAT THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ACCESS, NOT JUST NECESSARILY OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, AND TO SOME DEGREE, UH, MOST IMPORTANTLY, PLACES WHERE PEOPLE COULD GATHER PUBLICLY AND, AND EAT TOGETHER, UM, AND CONNECT WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UM, I FORGET THIS IS A TOUCHSCREEN, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, UM, WE PUT TOGETHER A REALLY, WHAT I THINK IS A REALLY STRONG TEAM, UM, GOT MYSELF PEOPLE A LOT SMARTER THAN ME, FRANKLY.
UM, AND, UH, LIONHEART WHO YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
GREAT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND URBAN PLANNER, UH, BGE WHO'S, WHO'S DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE CITY OF KYLE IS OUR CIVIL ENGINEER, UH, CAR, CAR DEVELOPMENT, UM, WHO WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR US AND THEN PRINCIPAL DOMAIN WITH OUR LAND PLANNER.
I THINK WE'LL KIND OF TOUCHED ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.
UM, BUT JUST, I THINK ONE THING TO NOTE, UH, IN THIS REGIONAL MAP HERE THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT IS, IS KIND OF, WE STRADDLE BETWEEN 35 AND 21 AND 21 CONNECTS TO ONE 30 AND ONE 30 CONNECTS TO EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE EAST SIDE OF AUSTIN, INCLUDING TESLA AND SAMSUNG'S NEW FACTORY AND TAYLOR, AND A LOT OF THE MAJOR JOB MARKET AND JOB GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE AS WELL AS THE AIRPORT.
UM, SO WE THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT CONNECT, UH, CONNECTION POINT.
AND BY BUILDING GRISTMILL OUT, NOT ONLY TO THE WEST, BUT TO THE EAST, WE CAN CONNECT TO THAT.
THIS IS JUST A LOOK AT YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN, JUST KIND OF SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF A MISSING PIECE OF THAT PUZZLE.
UM, WITH GRISTMILL THERE, JUST TO LOOK AT IT FROM, UH, FROM GOOGLE MAPS, UM, TO SHOW HOW WE PLAN ON BUILDING THAT OUT.
AND I'M GONNA PASS ON TO, UH, TO REBECCA LEONARD WITH LIONHEART HERE TO KIND OF TAKE THE REST OF THE SLIDES.
HI, AH, I WON'T COVER SOME THAT WILL'S ALREADY COVERED FOR US SINCE IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT ALREADY, BUT, UH, WE'LL COVERED WITH THE CURRENT ZONING IS R ONE, TWO SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED RESIDENTIAL 65 FOOT LOTS.
UH, IN ADDITION, WE ARE, UH, NORTH OF THE WATERLOO FALLS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE WATER LEAF PARK AND, UH, JUST EAST OF BUN CREEK RESERVE, UH, ABOUT 60 ACRES OF THE 318 TOTAL ACRES ARE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN,
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UH, BUNTON CREEK AND PLUM CREEK.UH, WHEN THE TEAM GOT TOGETHER, UH, HUNTERS KIND OF TOUCHED ON MANY OF THESE GOALS, BUT THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST EXERCISES.
SO THE PLAN WAS REALLY ABOUT WAS GOAL-DRIVEN PLAN.
AND THIS WAS TO CREATE A WALKABLE DIVERSE AND ACCESSIBLE NEW HUB FOR EAST KYLE.
WE'VE GOT PLUM CREEK AND OTHER THINGS HAPPENING IN WEST KYLE.
THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOME, UH, CENTER AND GATHERING PLACE FOR EAST KYLE VARIETY OF A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING TYPES.
SO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT NO MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE YOUNG AND JUST STARTING OUT YOU'RE SENIOR AND YOU NEED TO DOWNSIZE, OR YOU'RE IN THE THICK OF RAISING YOUR FAMILY, THERE'S A HOUSING PRODUCT HERE FOR YOU, UH, CREATING A VIBRANT AND AUTHENTIC PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET TO KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS, LOTS OF GATHERING PLACES FOR, FOR MEETING, UH, HONOR, THE AGRICULTURAL PAST.
THERE'S SO MANY GREAT RELICS ON SITE.
AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO USING SOME OF THEM AND IN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRAILS AND RECREATION IN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
AS HUNTER SAID, WE DID A STUDY SEVERAL DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY, UH, FROM AGRITOPIA AND PHOENIX, UH, TO CLOSER TO HOME WITH MUELLER AND PLUM CREEK AND, AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE STRENGTHS OF THOSE WERE AND WALKABILITY AND SOCIAL GATHERING PLACES WAS A KEY TO THAT AS WAS MIX OF USES.
SO, UH, THIS ISN'T JUST A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS HAS A CORE THAT WILL HAVE A MIXED USE COMPONENT TO IT.
THE TOWN SQUARE, UH, IT'LL HAVE 20% OF THE LAND WILL BE PARKS, UH, AND ALSO, UH, A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES.
ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS, UH, EARLY IN THE PROJECT THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPERS, UH, DID WAS STUDY WHERE, UH, PEOPLE GO TO GET THEIR GOODS AND SERVICES IN THIS PART OF THE CITY, AND THEY HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY TO
UH, IN FACT, THIS TABLE HERE REALLY SHOWS HOW MUCH, UH, SPENDING POWER THIS PART OF THIS THE CITY HAS.
AND WE REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOME OF THOSE SERVICES CLOSER TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
UH, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT WE'RE, UH, ACCOMPANYING WITH THE PUD.
I, YOU CAN SEE 61 ACRES OF PUBLIC PARKLAND.
UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY RANGES FROM A DIFFERENT VARIETY OF SINGLE FAMILY, LOT SIZES TO TOWNHOMES, PATIO HOMES AND OTHER THINGS.
UH, WE HAVE A MULTIFAMILY, UH, COMPONENT TO IT, AND THEN THE TOWN SQUARE ITSELF, THIS IS A ILLUSTRATIVE MASTER PLAN OF THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, UH, AROUND BUTTON CREEK AND AROUND PLUM CREEK RESTAURANT.
WE ENVISION THIS REALLY GREAT DESTINATION RESTAURANT SPACE IN THE OLD HOMESTEAD AREA.
UH, THAT WILL BE AN EXPERIENCE, A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET A FEEL FOR, FOR KYLE, UH, AND BRING PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE CITY AND ALL OVER THE REGION INTO THIS AREA.
UM, COMMERCIAL USE IN PLAZA, WE'VE GOT A MIXED USE BUILDING IN THE PLAZA SPACE.
UH, THAT'S EVOLVING, UH, AND, UH, SURROUNDED BY A VARIETY OF MULTI-FAMILY.
UH, WE'VE GOT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SITE OVER ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NOW FOR MANY MONTHS TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE IS THE RIGHT SIZE AND THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THEM AND DIVERSE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING TYPES.
THIS BREAKS DOWN THE DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE SINGLE FAMILY AREA.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A MONOLITHIC, YOU KNOW, SAME SIZE COOKIE CUTTER, LOT SITUATION.
THIS IS GOING TO BE MIXED UP IN EACH STREET.
AND SO TOWNHOMES DIFFERENT ALLIE LOADED PRODUCTS, ALSO FRONT-LOADED PRODUCTS, DIFFERENT SIZES.
UH, FINALLY, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PUBLIC SPACES.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PARKLAND ABOUT 20% OF THE SITE, THE RESTAURANT AND GATHERING PLACE WILL BE A REALLY FUN SOCIAL PLACE.
THE PLAZA WILL ALSO BE A PLACE TO GRAB A COFFEE AND HANG OUT WITH THE KIDS AND PLAY IN THE PLAZA SPACE.
WE'VE GOT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN THE TRAIL ORIENTED CONNECTIONS DOWN ON THE SOUTH TO PLUM CREEK.
SO ALL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY'S GOT ACCESS TO WALKABLE DESTINATIONS.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE PLAN FROM THE BEGINNING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO WALK VERY FAR TO GET TO SOMETHING FUN.
SO THIS IS PICTURES OF THE EXISTING RELICS ON SITE.
SO YOU'LL SEE IT IN SOME OF THE RENDERINGS.
WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO USE IT AS PART OF THE RESTAURANT GATHERING AREA.
UH, GREAT TREES, BEAUTIFUL VIEWS, SCENIC VIEWS OVER THE, UH, THE FLOODPLAINS AND, AND THE RANCH LANDS, FORMER RANCH LANDS.
SO THIS IS A RENDERING OF WHAT THIS RESTAURANT AND GATHERING PLACE, UH, COULD LOOK LIKE USING SOME OLD STRUCTURES.
SOME NEW STRUCTURES CAN HAVE FUN, MODERN PLAY ON SOME OF THE OLDER MATERIALS AND THE VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURE IN THE AREA.
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IS A PLAN VIEW OF IT CREATING A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE, COME THROUGH A PECAN GROVE, OUT TO A RESTAURANT AND BREWERY, UH, NESTLED INTO KIND OF A FARM SPACE WHERE THE KIDS CAN RUN A MUCK AND GO INTO THE COMMUNITY BARN.AND OUT TO THE EVENT LAWN, WE HAVE A TASTING DECK AMPHITHEATER PLAY ON THEIR SCULPTURES AND PUBLIC ART, AND THEN A BEAUTIFUL MEADOW SPACE THAT WILL CONNECT PEOPLE DOWN TO THE BARTON CREEK AREA.
THIS IS CON SOME CONCEPTUAL RENDERINGS OF THE PLAZA SPACE AT THE HEART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, SURROUNDED BY A MIXED USE BUILDING A CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA, CENTRAL LAWN SPACE AND EVENT PAVILION, UH, THINGS THAT WILL PROVIDE GREAT ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY TO THE FOLKS IN EAST.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, BEEN WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THIS IS KIND OF A CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF WHAT THE SCHOOL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL COULD LOOK LIKE ON ABOUT 11 ACRES IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEN FINALLY TYING INTO TRAILS AND PATHS.
YOUR OCCURRENT TRAIL PLAN SHOWS THIS AREA AS BEING CONNECTED THROUGH A GREENBELT OF TRAILS.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO TIE INTO THAT AND BE PART OF THAT.
AND EVEN THE NEW LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN ABOUT TRAIL ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS AND REALLY LOOKING AT WAYS TO NOT JUST CONNECT GREENSPACES TO ONE ANOTHER WITH THE TRAIL, BUT ALSO TO CONNECT DESTINATIONS.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ONE OF THOSE DESTINATIONS THAT WE CAN, EVERYBODY CAN GET TO BY TRAIL.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE FOR THAT.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE CUSTOMER IS, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING A PROJECT LIKE THIS TO THE SIDE.
UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT ACCESSIBILITY OUT IN CASE OF A FLOOD THAT IT DOES FLOOD.
THOSE ROADWAYS ARE PRONE TO THAT.
MAKING SURE WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE WILL BE KEY AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS THE POND.
UM, FORTUNATELY I DIDN'T SEE A NARRATOR IN THE PICTURE.
I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME AIR RAIDERS IN THOSE PICTURES.
AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT WE'VE GOT SOME BEAUTIFUL PONDS AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEY'RE LOOKING IN SHAMBLES NOW BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT FRESH WATER, FRESH AIR GOING IN THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ADD SOME AIR RAIDERS FOR THAT.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S A GREAT, UH, PROJECT IT'S GOING TO BRING SO MUCH NEEDED RESOURCES TO THE AREA.
UH, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT MORE COMING INTO THE ROADWAY SYSTEMS THERE THAT ARE PROPOSED.
UH, BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND I THINK HE'S GOING IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO, UH, THE, TO THE, THE BIG PECAN TREE THAT'S THERE.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO Y'ALL PRESERVING THAT.
THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE COMING IN TO PRESERVE THAT.
AND SOME OF THE OLD STRUCTURES THERE AS WELL.
SO KEEPING A LITTLE BIT OF COW'S HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO YOU'RE DOING THAT AND PRESERVING IT.
SO I THINK IT WAS A GREAT PROJECT.
UM, RATHER ABOUT IT, IT IS A, A GOOD PLAN, A GOOD SETUP.
I LIKE, UM, NOW I'M GOING TO JUST ADDRESS MY CONCERNS BECAUSE I LIVE IN THAT AREA.
UH, HAS ANYBODY DRIVEN DOWN BUTTON CREEK ROAD ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON? YOU'RE THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
AREN'T YOU HAVE IT OVER THERE BY THE ROUNDABOUT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT PROBABLY A GOOD MILE AND A HALF, TWO MILES FROM THIS LOCATION THERE.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG CONCERN FOR THE TRAFFIC AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK UP ON THAT.
I UNDERSTAND, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN PUSHING THIS LAST BUDGET AND ABOUT TRYING TO SEE ABOUT WHERE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS OR WHERE ARE WE AT ON BUNTING CREEK ROAD, INCLUDING WIDENING OR GETTING SOME KIND OF PLANNED DOWN.
THAT'S GOING TO BE MY BIG CONCERN ON THAT ROAD RIGHT THERE.
UH, OF COURSE IN THAT AREA, UH, AGAIN, I'LL BE CONCERNED CAUSE I DO HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE OUT IN TWINS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT DID FLOOD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
THAT'D BE ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE THERE.
UM, BUT ANOTHER ISSUE THAT, THAT I MIGHT WANT TO RAISE, UH, SOME QUESTIONS ON IS THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, UH, LIKE I SAID, I HATE TO BE THE PERSON THAT'S BRINGING ALL THIS NEGATIVITY.
I'M NOT TRYING TO DOWNLOAD IT.
IF I'M JUST BEING REAL ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN OUR CITY.
WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR SCHOOLS IN THAT AREA OF NEAR STEEPLECHASE, WHERE WE HAVE HUGE TRAFFIC ISSUES, UH, FROM IDL TO WINTERS, TO LAYMEN.
AND WE HAVE BUILT SCHOOLS IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINTS THAT I GETS ON MY EMAILS AND PEOPLE CALL ME ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, THOUGH I SEE THAT THIS IS A GOOD PLAN.
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GREAT VIBE FOR EAST OF KYLE.I MEAN, I'M NOT KNOCKING THAT, UH, THESE ARE JUST THE CONCERNS THAT I KNOW IF WE START BUILDING THESE TYPES OF SUBDIVISIONS, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ROADS WITH SIDEWALKS IN PLACE THAT LEAD TO
AND SO THE CONNECTIVITY, I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND WHERE WE WOULD HAVE THAT FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE TO GET TO SOME OF THE SCHOOLS OR SOME OF THE AMENITIES CLOSER TO A 35.
SO I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THE, UM, THE ROAD, UH, IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE THE REST OF OUR PROPERTY HAS BEEN LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, HUNTER SAID LIKE WHAT A YEAR AND A HALF OF NEGOTIATING.
SO ALL OF THE EAST SIDE ROAD PROJECTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, UH, REALLY THEIR GENESIS CAME FROM THE REST OF OUR PROPERTY, UH, THE BUTTON ROW BUTTON LANE IN PARTICULAR AND IMPROVING IT FROM BASICALLY FROM THIS SITE WEST TO
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN OF THE OPINION THAT WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS AND ROAD PROJECTS IN PARTICULAR, THAT WHEN A DEVELOPMENT IS COMING, IT NEEDS TO PROVIDE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS, UH, HELPING WITH THAT ROAD.
AND THE REST OF OUR PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR IS WORKING ON TERS THREE AND BONDED, UH, PROJECTS TO HELP BRING ABOUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ON BUTTON LANE.
SO IF WE WEREN'T ACTIVELY IN THE ENGINEERING FOR EXACTLY WHAT YOU MENTIONED, I WOULD THINK THIS SITE WOULD BE A PREMATURE AS WELL, BECAUSE IT WOULD SIGNAL THAT THE CITY'S NOT REALLY PREPARED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THE, UH, ON IMPROVING THE ROADWAY, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHERE I FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT SOLVES HELPS US TO ACTUALLY SOLVE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET ENGINEERING COMPLETED ON BUTTON, INCLUDING SIDEWALKS AND AMENITIES, UH, AND TO HAVE IT, UH, READY TO GO TO THE, TO THE VOTERS BY NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, LONG BEFORE THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY COMES INTO, UH, INTO BEING.
SO, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT IS THAT, UH, THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO ACTUALLY HELP BRING FUNDING TOWARDS THAT.
UM, AND, UH, AND THEN ALSO GRIS MILL IN PARTICULAR IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT CONNECTION ROAD THAT HELPS TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC.
UH, SO THEN BRINGING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, PIECE OF ROAD, ALTHOUGH THE GRISTMILL IN BUTTON CREEK, UH, ISN'T REALLY WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A ROAD IT'S I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS EXACTLY, BUT IT, THE, I THINK IT MAY HAVE DONE IRREVOCABLE DAMAGE TO THE LONG-TERM PROSPECTS OF GRIS MILL.
UM, BUT, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE PREPARING TO BUILD BUTTON ROAD OR BUTTON LIGHT.
I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE IT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT, ACTUALLY PASSED THIS SITE IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, BOND THAT WE'RE PREPARING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER, IS THAT RIGHT? MAYER, THE, UH, THE, THE BOND FOR BUNTON DOES, UH, WRAPPED THROUGH THE REST OF OUR TRACT AND THEN DOWN TO CHRIS MILL TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN HAS THAT ROAD, UH, SWINGING UP THROUGH A PROPERTY THAT WE CALL, UH, KYLA STATES EAST, AND THEN, UH, FURTHER, UH, JOINING A ROADWAY TO THE NORTHEAST.
AND THEN CHRIS MILL DOES DEFINITELY GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO HIGHWAY 21.
SO THERE'S, UH, A VARIETY OF, OF ROADWAYS THROUGH THERE.
AND THE, UH, THE BOND PROGRAM WILL HELP US ACCELERATE THOSE AND, AND BUILD IT AT LEAST THROUGH THE CITY LIMITS.
WELL, BUT AS IT RELATES TO REST A GARDEN, CAL STATE EAST, CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF WHETHER OR NOT COUNSELOR TOBIA SAYS, QUESTION IS, IS BEING ADDRESSED, IT WILL BE ADDRESSED.
THESE, THOSE ROADWAYS ARE A PART OF THERESE.
UM, MY QUESTIONS, UH, ON THE PROJECT ARE RELATED TO, UH, DENSITY AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE.
SO OUR RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE COMPELS DEVELOPERS TO ALLIE LOAD A PRODUCT OF 50 FEET OR LESS A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S IN THIS PROPOSAL IS MORE LIKE A, JUST A FRACTION OF THAT.
THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS, THE 40 FOOT LOTS, AND A 50 FOOT, LOTS THAT BY BY THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE ARE REQUIRED TO BE ALLEY LOADED.
UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S, THAT'S THE CASE HERE.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE A LOT OF 40 AND 50 FOOT FRONT-LOADED LOTS LIKE 70% OF THE TOTAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
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WHICH ARE ALLOWED BY THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE STYLE GUIDE, CORRECT? NO FIFTIES, FIFTIES REQUIRED TO BE ALLEY LOADED GREATER THAN 50.SO THE DEMARCATION IS ON THE 50, BUT IF IT'S 50 FOOT LOT, IT'S, IT'S ACCORDING TO THE STYLE GUTS SUPPOSED TO BE LA LOADED, BUT YEAH, THERE'S LIKE 800 PLUS OUT OF THE 1100, I THINK IN TOTAL THAT ARE FRONT-LOADED.
AND THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS, YOU KNOW, ARE, IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE YOU DESIGNED IT TO GET AROUND.
SO, UH, ON THE FIFTIES, OUR INTENT WAS TO MEET THAT, MEET THAT REQUIREMENT ON THE FORTIES.
WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE ALLOCATION IN THE FORTIES AND WE DON'T HAVE A MINIMUM ALLOCATION ON THE FORTIES, SO WE MIGHT NOT BUILD ANY, BUT, UM, THE FIFTIES WERE INTENDED TO MEET THE RESIDENT STYLE GUIDE.
SO IF WE NEED TO GO TO 51, SO BE IT WELL, FIFTIES WITHIN AN R THREE, THREE ZONING, YOU KNOW, UP TO 50, AND THEN GREATER THAN THAT IS, IS, ARE, ARE ONE, THREE.
AND THE GREATER THAN THAT, IT'S OUR ONE, TWO.
SO THE
OUR ONE IS TYPICALLY REQUIRED TO BE PREDOMINANTLY ALLEY LOADED.
SO IT JUST, IS IT, IS IT, IS THERE SOME KIND OF AVERSION TO REAR DETACH SIDE SIDELOADED ALLEY LOADED STREETS, CURVILINEAR STREETS OUT HERE? WE DO HAVE SOME CURVILINEAR STREETS AND OUR STREETS ARE REALLY KIND OF RESPONDING TO THE SITE REALLY.
SO WHERE THE SITE HAS CURVES, THEN THE STREETS SORT OF CURVE WITH IT AND WHERE THE SITE IS FLATTENED SORT OF ORTHOGONAL AND THE STREETS ARE A LITTLE BIT, UH, LESS CURVY OR CURVILINEAR.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE FORT AND THE ALLEY LOAD OF PRODUCT, OR OUR CURRENT LAND PLAN HAS ENOUGH DEPTH TO DO ALLEY LOAD PRODUCT.
IF THE BUILDER THAT WE BRING ON EVENTUALLY DECIDES THEY WANT TO DO ALLIE LOAD PRODUCT THERE.
AND FRANKLY, ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF THEM THAT WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO DO INTEND TO DO ALLIE LOAD PRODUCT ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE, EXCEPT FOR THE PERIMETERS.
UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE CAN BE SOME MORE NUANCE THERE AND SOME MORE DETAIL ADDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE STYLE GUIDE APPROPRIATELY.
UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE POD DESIGNATION, WE'RE INTENDING TO OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, VARY FROM THAT A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER TO GET ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR HERE, INCLUDING THE SCHOOL SITE AND THE TOWN CENTER AND THE PLAZA, AND SORT OF THE PUBLIC STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING THAT, UM, UH, IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO PULL OFF.
UM, AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, SOME SMALLER LOT SIZES THAT WE THINK HAD DENSITY AND WALKABILITY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
DEFINITELY YOU'VE ADDED A LOT OF DENSE DENSITY WITH TOWNHOMES MULTIFAMILY, UH, AND THEN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST DENSE SINGLE FAMILY THAT, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE OFFER PER CODE, IT'S JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE REALLY SPEAKS TO TRYING TO MAKE SURE IF YOU'RE GOING FOR THAT DENSITY, UH, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT CREATING, UM, UH, STREETS THAT ARE JUST PREDOMINANTLY JUST ROWS AND ROWS OF GARAGES.
SO THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I SEE, I SEE WHAT I THINK IS PREDOMINANTLY THAT, SO IT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF MY FRUSTRATION IS, UH, THE TRADE FOR DENSITY COMES AT THE, THE RIGHT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS FOR CARS NOT TO BE JUST OVERWHELMING STREETS AND DRIVEWAYS AND ALLOWS THEM TO GET MORE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY SHOULD SO THAT IT'S NOT AUTOMOBILE FOCUSED.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS VERY, THE LOT TYPES, RIGHT? SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, 40 FOOT LONG TYPE OR 50 FOOT LOT TYPE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS.
WE DO HAVE ALLEY LOADED PRODUCT AS WELL IN THE MIX.
UM, AND WE HAVE 60 FOOT LOTS IN THE MIX AS WELL.
SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE DIVERSITY ON THOSE STREETS WITH THE DIFFERENT LOT TYPES AND THE DIFFERENT SETBACKS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE LOT TYPES.
I MEAN, THERE'S FORTIES, FIFTIES, AND SIXTIES, MOSTLY FORTIES, AND THEN MOST AND FIFTIES THAT ARE, UM, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM ALLEY LOADED.
I MEAN, YOU CAN LOOK, THE LAND PLAN IS MAJORITY, UM, STRAIGHT STREETS AND ALLEY LOADED WITH FAIRLY DENSE AND NARROW LOT LINES.
SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT WE GOT TO THE, UH, PLAN THAT SEEMS TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, PUSH THAT STYLE GUIDE A LITTLE BIT TOO, TO THE SIDE, ESPECIALLY THE IDEA OF TRADING IT OUT, TRADING OUT THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE TRY, WE, WE SEE I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF TRADING DENSITY FOR HIGHER QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY, UM, MIXED USE, UH, TO ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO EXPERIENCE MORE THEIR LIVE LIFE AND QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN THE PROJECT ITSELF.
OUR BIGGEST MASTER PLAN SUBDIVISIONS ALL DO THAT VERY WELL.
UH, THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY AMENITIES OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROADS.
ANYWAY, IT'S JUST, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF TRADING CONFORMITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE, UH, IN ORDER TO GET COMMERCIAL THAT DOESN'T REALLY FIT.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE HARD CAUSE RESTA GAR HAS BY AND LARGE BEEN, UM, A BREATH OF FRESH
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AIR AS IT RELATES TO DEVELOPMENTS.I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN THE, THAT THIS LAND PLAN HERE UNTIL, UNTIL RECENTLY.
AND I THINK THAT IT COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR MY TASTING, AT LEAST IN PARTICULAR TO, TO HAVE THOSE DENSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOUR TOWNHOMES RALLY LOADED, WHICH I'M APPRECIATIVE OF, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH ELSE, UH, IN THE WHOLE PROJECT IT'S ALLI LOADED, SIDELOADED REAR DETACHED.
EDU'S ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, 80 TO ARE, ARE PROVIDED FOR WITHIN, WITHIN THE ZONING HERE.
AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE, AS WE MOVE TO ADU WITH THE FRONT LOADED GARAGE, UH, WELL WE DO HAVE ALLEY LOADED PRODUCT AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE'VE GOT 30 FOOT GARDEN HOME ALLEY LOADED AS WELL AS THE TOWNHOMES.
UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME 40 FOOT ALLEY LOADED CURRENTLY AS WELL IN THERE.
SO, UH, BUT YOU CAN DO STILL DO AN ADU IN THE BACK OF A FRONT-LOAD AT HOME NOW, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? JUST ABOVE THE GARAGE, PART OF THE WHOLE SEPARATE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, BUT WITHOUT A DRIVEWAY, CORRECT? YEAH.
THE FLOOR CUSTOMER FORCE KALE.
UM, I'M NOT A FAN OF ALLEY LOADED COURAGEOUS, SO I HOPE YOU MAKE THEM ALL 60, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT, UM, I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF IT.
UM, THAT'S WHY I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE AND OTHER PEOPLE LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE.
THEY TRY TO MAKE THAT IN THE BACK OF OUR SUBDIVISION AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT VERY WELL.
SO, UM, LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN WORK AROUND THAT.
UM, AND WITH THAT SAID, I WAS JUST KINDA CURIOUS HOW, UM, HOW YOU GUYS, HOW LIONHEART AND RESCUE GUARD GOT TOGETHER, BECAUSE I SEE THAT LIONHEART'S ALSO WORKING IN, IN LAGUARDIA.
AND SO I WAS JUST KINDA CURIOUS HOW THAT RELATIONSHIP DEVELOPED.
UM, WELL, UH, I'M AN ARCHITECT BY TRADE AND REBECCA AND I HAD WORKED PREVIOUSLY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN ON A DESIGN COMPETITION AND AN EXERCISE WITH CITY COUNCIL, UH, IN EAST AUSTIN ON 12TH STREET TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, AND A MIXED USE PROJECT OVER THERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE INITIALLY MET.
AND, UM, FRANKLY I LOVE THEIR WORK AND, UH, AND LOVED WORKING WITH REBECCA AND HER TEAM AND SUPER TALENTED.
SO, UH, IT WAS THE RIGHT FIT, I THINK, FOR THIS PROJECT.
NO, AND I, I LOVE THIS PROJECT HANDS DOWN BY FAR.
I AM SUPER STOKED AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THAT PROPERTY WITH YOU GUYS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I'VE SEEN YOUR SINCERITY AND I'VE SEEN YOUR COMMITMENT TO NOT JUST THE LAND, BUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THEM HAS BEEN UNMATCHED, UNMATCHED.
AND SO I'M, I, I THINK AT ONE POINT I MADE A COMMENT AND I WAS FAIRLY GREEN AND SIX, LIKE SAGAMI I WAS NEW AND I NEVER DIDN'T EVEN THINK WHEN I SAID IT, BUT I SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES IS, OH MY GOD, I WOULD LIVE HERE.
AND YOU LOOKED AT ME AND YOU'RE LIKE, WELL, I CAN'T GET YOU A DISCOUNT.
AND I WAS LIKE, I DON'T EVEN WANT A DISCOUNT.
IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? IT WAS LIKE, THIS PLACE IS SO GREAT.
I WOULD LITERALLY MOVE MY FAMILY HERE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I STAND BEHIND IT BECAUSE WE'VE WALKED IT.
YOU SHARED YOUR IDEAS, THE FACT THAT YOU NOTICED AN OWL SITTING IN THE TREE AND THAT YOU WERE RESPECTFUL OF THAT AL SAYS A LOT ABOUT, LIKE, ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHO WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THE SCHOOL BUILDING BECAUSE MAKES ME NERVOUS TO THINK THAT WE JUST HAD A BOND FOR THIS, ANOTHER SCHOOL BUILDING.
SO TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE A BURDEN ON THE PECS TAXPAYERS.
UH, SO I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH MAX CLEAVER WITH HAYES ASD FOR A BETTER PART OF NINE MONTHS, I THINK ABOUT THIS.
AND, UH, AND THEY'VE RUN SOME, UH, SOME STUDIES ON THE AREA ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN AND, AND HOW MANY SCHOOLS THEY THINK ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED ON THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE OVER HERE.
AND IT'S, UH, IT'S A PRESSING ISSUE FOR THEM.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE ANOTHER BOND PROBABLY NEXT YEAR THAT COMES OUT, THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED FOR DESIGN, UM, AND THE BOND.
AND I THINK THE BOND WOULD APPROVE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AS, AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE THIS AS A, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 320 ACRE TRACKS.
SO, UM, THIS THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PHASING INVOLVED.
UM, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GET BUILT QUICKLY.
AND I THINK, UH, THE SCHOOL WILL PROBABLY BE ON A, ON A SIMILAR PATH.
ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY'RE FEELING THE PRESSURE TO BUILD NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WITH THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, UM, TO A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS JUST TO, TO COMMENT ON YOUR QUESTION ABOUT, UH, SCHOOLS AND KIND OF THE COMPLAINTS YOU GET THERE.
UM, AND THOSE STUDIES THAT WE RAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, THE CATCHMENT AREA FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WOULD BE BUTTON ROAD TO THE NORTH OR NORTHEAST, I SHOULD SAY.
UH, AND I THINK LAYMAN TO THE WEST.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT KIND OF AREA OF EAST KYLE WOULD NOW BE GOING EAST INSTEAD OF WEST, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING FOR TRAFFIC IN LIEU OF EVERYBODY KIND OF GOING TO THE WEST TO DROP OFF THEIR KIDS.
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UM, SO I MEAN THAT THERE'LL BE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT THERE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN KIND OF, UH, THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM THEM THUS FAR.JUST, JUST, JUST TO GO OFF OF THAT, UH, AGAIN, IF REAL, WHEN YOU'RE THERE, IT'S, IT'S STILL ONE LANE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES YEARS FOR, I UNDERSTAND FOR THESE ROADS TO GET BUILT.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING THAT TO WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THE NEWER DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE KIDS GOING TO THAT, TO THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO STILL END UP IN THE SAME SITUATION.
WE HAVE TRAFFIC OVERALL WITH BUSES AND, UH, PICKUP LINES IN, IN CARS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH, AND THEN ALSO ADDING THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC OF PEOPLE, TRYING TO GET HOME AROUND THAT TIME.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I HATE TO ALWAYS BE THAT THAT PERSON THAT'S ALWAYS, UH, KNOCKING THE CITY ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ROADS, BUT IT IS A REALISTIC ISSUE THAT GOES ON FOR A RESIDENCE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.
AND ESPECIALLY BY STEEPLECHASE LEHMAN, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF THAT SCHOOL, UH, AT ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE PICKING UP MY SON AND LAYMAN, AND THEN THERE'S AN AMBULANCE TRYING TO GET THROUGH FIRETRUCK AND IT JUST TAKES FOREVER.
AND THOSE ARE JUST MY CONCERN BECAUSE AGAIN, PUBLIC SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR ME, AND THEN ALSO LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS WHENEVER THEY GET INTO THESE SITUATIONS.
SO THOSE ARE JUST THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, CAUSE THOSE ROADS ARE STILL FARM ROADS AND Y'ALL BEEN OUT THERE, Y'ALL SEEN IT, THEY'RE ALL STILL FARM ROADS.
AND SO JUST IMAGINE ADDING 500 MORE CARS OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ADDITIONAL BUSES AND OTHER VEHICLES THERE, IT'S JUST A BIG CONCERN THAT I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WILL, WILL SHOW LATER ON.
I KIND OF SEE THE CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY HAS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE KEEPING IN MIND IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE BUSES THERE.
THOSE KIDS ARE TRAVELING FOREVER TO GET TO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THERE'S NO SCHOOLS NEAR THEM.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS, THE NICE THINGS OF HAVING A SCHOOL THERE IS NOW THEY'RE TRAVELING LESS, YOU'RE PUTTING LESS CONGESTION ON THOSE ROADWAYS.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ADDING HOUSES, THEY'RE GOING THERE.
UH, THE NEW, UH, PATHS THAT WE HAVE COMING FORWARD, UM, MIGHT BRING THE KIDS FROM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, ON THE NEW PATHS AS WELL, ALLEVIATING SOME OF THAT WITH SOME MORE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS WELL, SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
I'M NOT A FAN OF VALLEY LOADED EITHER.
UH, I CAN'T STAND DOWN THE ROAD TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
UH, BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
UH, I LOVE THE 40 FOOT, LOTS, ANYTHING SMALLER NET PROBABLY BE SAYING NO TO, BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT.
UH, AS FAR AS, UH, THE TRAFFIC WE'RE STARTING SOMEWHERE AND THE UPGRADES YOU'RE DOING TO THE ROADWAYS IN THAT AREA ARE GOING TO HELP, UH, IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY AS WE BRING BACK OUR PLANS AND THE FUTURE ROAD PROJECTS.
AND LIKE, YOU'RE S YOU'RE SAYING THIS ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN TOMORROW.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT WE'LL HAVE AS A CITY, WE CAN DO OUR PART AND GET THOSE ROADWAYS UP THERE AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE VOTERS SAY, BUT YEAH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS KIND OF A PROJECT IN THIS AREA BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BEEN LONG OVERDUE.
WE JUST SHOW THAT EVERY PART OF THE CITY MATTERS TO US WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING PROJECTS.
AND THAT THIS PROJECT RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BRING SOME AMENITIES TO THE CITY, A GROCERY STORE, BRING MORE, UH, UH, ITEMS TO THEM WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO HELP ALLEVIATE THAT TRAFFIC NOT HAVING TO DRIVE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN MILES TO HUB, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S GOING TO HELP.
THAT'S WHERE ALISON PERFECT TIMING TRAIN.
UM, UH, WELL, I I'VE, I'VE GOT A FEW THOUGHTS AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS THAT THEY PUT INTO THESE, UH, ITEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SECOND SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, I APPRECIATE THE MEETING WE HAD AND I SECOND, UH, THE PASSION AND, AND CERTAINLY, UH, THE INTEGRITY, UH, THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM PUT FORWARD IN, IN THIS PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS CONCERNED WITH THE ROADS AS THEY ARE NOW.
AND I WOULD BE CONCERNED AS, AS HE IS AS WELL.
IF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT, WE HAVE INVESTED, WE VOTED ON FUNDING TO ENGINEER AND GET THESE, UH, ROADS TO WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THE FINAL SAY WILL BE WITH THE, THE BOATERS, BUT THERE IS A LEGITIMATE PLAN IN PLACE TO IMPROVE THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA.
AND ROSS SCAR HAS BEEN A, A PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND, AND CERTAINLY THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT GIVES ME A LOT OF VOTE OF CONFIDENCE AND BRINGING SOMETHING OUT THERE.
I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT REAL QUICK, CAUSE WE ALL KNOW
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THIS, WE HEAR THE EAST VERSUS WEST SIDE CONVERSATIONS ALL THE TIME.AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THE WEST SIDE GETS ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND PROJECTS AND THINGS.
AND WHAT I TELL PEOPLE WHEN I HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS INDIVIDUALLY OR SMALL GROUPS, IS THAT A LARGE PART OF THE REASON WHY THAT HAPPENED IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE DEVELOPERS ON OUR EAST SIDE THAT ARE WILLING TO RAISE THE, AND DO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.
AND SO IT TAKES THOSE, THOSE DEVELOPERS WANTING TO NOT JUST MEET THE BAR AND MAYBE SHIMMY OVER IT, BUT REALLY EXCEEDED AND, AND, AND BLOW PAST THAT.
AND, UH, I THINK A LOT OF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T SEE AND UNDERSTAND THAT ASPECT OF THIS.
AND I THINK RASTAGAR HAS BEEN DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO ATTEMPT AND MEET THAT.
UH, LIONHEART WAS ACTUALLY OUR MASTER PLANNER FOR ALL OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT AND NOT JUST THE VIRTA AND WE'VE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND PROCESS WITH THEM.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE FOUND A, UH, SEEMINGLY LIKE A GREAT PARTNER IN RASTA, GAR AND LIONHEART AND THE TEAMS THAT THEY ARE WORKING WITH.
I THINK WE HAVE A SOLID PLAN IN PLACE FOR IMPROVING THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS CERTAINLY WITH THE SCHOOL AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS YOU ALL ARE HAVING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON THAT.
BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE FACED IN THE PAST AND WHERE WE STUMBLED.
BUT WITH THIS ONE, I FEEL LIKE THERE, THERE IS A GREATER PLAN IN PLACE TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT TYPICALLY HAPPEN.
AND I KNOW THE MAYOR MADE THE COMMENT OF THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG TYPE OF THING THAT IS THE FUNNEL COUNCILS UPON COUNCILS UPON COUNCILS OVER AND OVER, AND TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
BUT THIS IS HOW YOU GET THOSE THINGS DONE.
AND WE ARE STEPPING FORWARD WITH AN EVEN GREATER OPPORTUNITY WITH DETERS AS WELL.
AND SO, UM, SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
AND JUST AROUND FINISH UP MY THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S FOLKS ALL OVER THE DIOCESE, OBVIOUSLY ON ALLEY LOADED AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WILL MAKE THIS COMMENT AND IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE TRAILS POINT EARLIER WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAN AND YOU DON'T PUT CERTAIN THINGS IN IT, YOU DON'T, WE'RE IN DC TEMPORARILY.
I KNOW Y'ALL HEARING ME SAY THAT ALL THE TIME.
AND SO IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN THE PLAN, THAT'S WHAT THE LONGEVITY IS.
THAT'S WHAT OUTLAST ALL OF US.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO SEE CERTAIN THINGS IN A PLAN.
I HAPPEN TO BE A BIG FAN OF THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE BECAUSE I WAS ON P AND Z WHEN WE CREATED IT.
AND THEN I BECAME ON COUNCIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD OUTLIVE MY TIME HERE.
AND THAT WAS MY MARK ON SOMETHING THAT I FELT LIKE WAS BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE JUST GIVE A LITTLE POINT BACK TO MY TRAIL'S COMMENT.
THAT'S WHY YOU PUT THINGS IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SOLIDIFIED IN THERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU'LL BE IN THE SEATS IN ORDER TO INFLUENCE THAT.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS THOUGH, I WOULD LISTEN TO THOSE, UH, VERY STRONGLY.
I, I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH HIM ON A LOT OF WHAT HE SAID, AS FAR AS THAT, AND KIND OF WORKING ON THAT WITH THOSE, THOSE, UH, THOSE CERTAIN PRODUCTS, BUT YOU ALL HAVE SHOWN EVERY BIT OF WILLINGNESS TO WANT TO, TO BE GREAT PARTNERS, UH, WANT TO, UH, BUILD A DEVELOPMENT ON OUR EAST SIDE AND TO HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE IN SOME AMENITIES OVER THERE AND A QUALITY OF LIFE OVER THERE THAT REALLY WE ARE LACKING.
AND THAT COMES A LOT WITH BUILDING THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH DEVELOPERS THAT ARE WILLING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.
I KNOW WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SAY THAT PUBLIC AND I APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED EFFORT ON IT.
APPRECIATE THAT CUSTOMER RETRO SHE'S BACK.
SO I ACTUALLY HAD A FEW QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS EARLIER, BUT, UM, THEY WERE ALREADY ASKED AND ANSWERED AND I WAS JUST SITTING WITH MY HAND UP.
SO, BUT QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED.
W WELL, I'LL SAY MY PARTING PIECE ON THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE.
SO I KNOW IT MAY BE NICE TO HEAR A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY THEY DON'T AGREE WITH ASPECTS OF THE RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL STYLE GUIDE, BUT THAT IS AN ADOPTED AND APPROVED COUNCIL POLICY.
UM, DO NOT LIKE HEARING THAT YOU DID NOT MEET THAT STANDARD BECAUSE OF COST MEASURES SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE SOME OTHER SITES, SOME OTHER PART OF THE SITE BETTER.
UM, SO I DON'T CONSIDER THAT MEETING STANDARD.
UM, THAT SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I DON'T, I GUESS THIS IS THE, UH, THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA, WE'RE GONNA THROW OUT WHAT THAT STYLE GUIDE SAYS.
UH, I THINK YOU MIGHT FIND DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON ALLIE LOADED WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LONG,
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STRAIGHT STREETS WITH NOTHING BUT 40 FOOT LOTS FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, A GARAGE IS HALF OF THAT.SO YOU'RE TALKING MOSTLY GARAGE IS ALL, YOU SEE A GARAGE THAT NO ONE PARKS IN AND THEY USE THIS STORAGE.
UH, AND SO, UH, UH, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A WILD SITE, GO, GO DOWN HERE IN FIVE YEARS WHEN THAT'S DONE AND GO LOOK DOWN THAT LONG, STRAIGHT STREET ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON, AND EVERYONE'S WATCHING THE GAME.
IT'S LIKE A WALMART PARKING LOT.
THERE'S NO SENSE OF PLACE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 40 FOOT WIDE, UH, LOTS, UH, THAT ARE ALL FRONT-LOADED.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE, AS, AS IT RELATES TO ARTICULATION, HOW MUCH OF THE FRONT FACADE CAN BE GARAGE DOMINATED AND ALL OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ADHERED TO, BUT I KIND OF HAVE TO ASK NOW, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM ALLEY LOADED, ARE YOU ARE, I MEAN, IS THE PLAN STILL TO FOLLOW ALL THE OTHER, UH, ELEMENTS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ARTICULATIONS AND YEAH, I DON'T THINK SO.
WE HAVE A VARIED FROM THE REST OF THE STYLE GUIDE.
I THINK IT'S JUST, JUST THE 40 FOOT, LOTS THAT VARY FROM THAT, THAT WE DID ASK FOR A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL MATERIALS, UM, THAT COULD BE USED, UM, PRIMARILY METAL AND WOOD, UH, WHICH WE THINK WOULD KIND OF MATCH WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE BARBECUE AND BREWERY AREA.
UM, BUT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE NOT VARYING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE.
THERE ARE SETBACKS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN TERMS OF THE ZONING, BUT NOT, NOT THE STYLE GUIDE.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AND I, I CERTAINLY, I HEAR YOUR POINT.
I THINK I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TOTALITY OF THE PROJECT, BUT CERTAINLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE, I KNOW THE SETBACKS, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
UH, BUT I THINK THE MAYOR CAUGHT SOME REALLY GREAT POINTS ON THAT.
WOULD THERE BE ANY OBJECTION ON YOUR END FROM, UH, IF WE WERE TO TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO CRACK AT THIS AGAIN AND SEE IF THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES WE CAN DO TO ADDITIONALLY MEET THE SPIRIT OF THE STYLE GUIDE WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE ALLEY LIGHTING PROJECTS? OR IS THIS, CAN WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WITH YOU GUYS FOR A LONG TIME? SO I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT'S WHAT'S RIGHT FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, AN ISSUE IF WE NEED TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THE 40 AND 50 PHILOSOPHY AND THE RESIDENTIAL STYLE GUIDE, WHAT'S TWO MORE WEEKS IN A YEAR AND A HALF TO BE HONEST.
UM, SO ABSOLUTELY WE'D BE WILLING TO WORK, WORK THROUGH SOME OF THAT THAT'S VERSA.
AND I WASN'T IMPLYING THAT WE DON'T FOLLOW A STYLE GUIDE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MY PIECE ON, ON A PRODUCT THAT I'M NOT A FAN OF.
BUT, UM, AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, YOU CAN GO DOWN THOSE STREETS AND YOU CAN'T GET THROUGH THEM CAUSE THERE'S CARS IN THE FRONT YARDS PARKED IN THE FRONT STREET.
SO WAS DEFINITELY A REASON WHY I'M NOT A FAN OF THOSE, UH, CAUSE IT'S HARD TO DRIVE THROUGH THOSE STREETS WHEN YOU HAVE, INSTEAD OF PEOPLE PARKING, THEIR REAR GARAGES, THEY'RE PARKED ALONG THE FRONT OF THEIR STREETS AS A REASON ON A FAN OF THAT.
BUT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A CLUTTER.
IT'S LIKE A PARKING LOT ALL THROUGH IT, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE REASON I'M NOT A FAN OF THEM, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IF IT'S ALLEY LOADED, IT'S LIKE A PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT AND IF IT'S NOT LA LOADED, IT'S LIKE A PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT DOOR.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE EITHER WAY.
I MEAN, PEOPLE WEREN'T GONNA USE THE GARAGES NO MATTER WHAT.
I GUESS THE ONLY ANSWER IS AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, GOLF CARTS, GOLF CARTS, BRING IT ALL THE WAY BACK.
SO IT WAS CRAZY, BUT YOU'VE GOT A GREAT PRODUCT.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OTHER TWO WEEKS, UH, TO HASH TO THIS.
THANK Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL'S PATIENCE.
UH, WELL THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO, YOU KNOW, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO MOVE IT TO THE SECOND READING, YOU KNOW, OR I GUESS WE COULD LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN IF YOU WANT TO JUST NOT TAKE A VOTE, BUT YOU KNOW, MY COMMENTARY WASN'T INTENDED TO, UM, TO, TO NECESSARILY TO DELAY VOTES.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT BROUGHT BACK FOR A SECOND READING EITHER WAY, MY PRO TEAM, SORRY, YOU GUYS CAN'T SEE ME.
SO I ENDED UP, UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
WHAT PERCENTAGE AGAIN, OF THE 35 TO 45, UH, LOTS, OR IS IT TOTAL? THIS PROJECT LET'S SEE OVERALL PERCENTAGE.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MINIMUM ALLOCATION OF, OF 12% FOR THE DETACHED TALLY LOAD 35 TO A 45 FOOT.
THEN THERE'S NO MAX ALLOCATION ON THAT ONE.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER MINIMUM ALLOCATIONS THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUT A CAP ON IT.
WELL, I'M GLAD THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON BROUGHT UP POSTPONING FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO, UH, TRY TO COMPLY MORE WITH THE STYLE GUIDE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD'VE COST ME.
SO TO THE, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO THE SECOND READING WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT WE MIGHT MAKE SOME CHANGES, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE STYLE GUIDE VARIATIONS.
SO I DO HAVE A PREFERENCE ON THAT BEFORE I MAKE THE STATE THAT PREFERENCE.
WOULD IT BE OKAY IF WE, UH, RECEIVE YOUR PRESENTATION,
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IF YOU COULD SEND THAT TO STAFF.AND SO STAFF COULD SEND THAT TO US.
I LIKE PEOPLE, BUT, UM, I TRY TO BE CONSISTENT AND MY CONSISTENCY ON THIS IS NOT TO VOTE AND TAKE THINGS TO SECOND READING AND RATHER WORK ON THEM AND TRULY GET THEM TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE, UH, RATHER THAN KIND OF MOVING THE BALL, INCHING IT FORWARD.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
AND SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE WILLING TO COME AND GOOD FAITH AND TRY TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON THAT.
BUT MY PREFERENCE WOULD TO BE, TO, UH, SUSPEND THE BOAT UNTIL AT LEAST FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS TO OUR FIRST OCTOBER MEETING, UH, PAGE, UH, THAT THIS ITEM HAS PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN OPEN TO END CLOSED.
DO WE NEED TO REOPEN IT AND LEAVE IT OPEN? OR IS IT, UM, IN ORDER TO RECONSIDER THIS FOR FIRST READING AT OUR NEXT MEETING, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE FIRST READING TONIGHT.
YOU CAN POSTPONE SECOND READING TILL THE NEXT WEEK OR SO UP TO A MONTH.
IF YOU NEED IT, SAY THAT AGAIN, YOU DON'T NEED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE FIRST READING ON THE SAME NIGHT AS THE PUBLIC HEARING SO YOU CAN POSTPONE FIRST READING.
UM, ALL RIGHT, WELL, I MOVE, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT US TO BRING IT BACK TO A DATE CERTAIN, OR DO YOU WANT TO WORK ON IT AND THEN BRING IT BACK? I MEAN, WE'D LOVE TO BE ON THE OCTOBER 5TH, UH, AGENDA AS WELL.
SO, UM, JUST TWO WEEKS SAYING IF WE, IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON OCTOBER 5TH, IT HAS TO COME OCTOBER 5TH, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU'RE AT IN THE PROCESS.
I THINK WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY AS LONG AS WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS QUICKLY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION, I GUESS, IN OTHER WORDS, DO WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT IT'S ON THE OCTOBER 5TH AGENDA NOW? OR DOES THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN THE WEEK BEFORE? IF WE, IF WE MAKE A VOTE NOW TO PUT IT ON OCTOBER 5TH, IT LOCKS YOU IN.
IF YOU DON'T, THEN THERE'S SOME LATITUDE, BUT IT CAN BE BROUGHT BACK.
THE INTENTION IS FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT BACK.
AND WE SAID, IF YOU WERE STILL WORKING ON IT, YOU'D HAVE A FOLLOWUP MEETING.
IT'D BE, THAT'D BE A COLLABORATIVE.
WE SET THE AGENDA SEPTEMBER 30TH FOR THAT OCTOBER 5TH MEETING.
SO NOT IT'S ALL THE WAY THROUGH OCTOBER.
SO WE HAVE A WEEK TO DECIDE IF WE'LL BE ON THE FIFTH OR NOT MORE OR LESS.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO MOVE ON, UH, FROM THIS ITEM WE'RE GONNA NEED, UH, CAN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE SOME AGENDA ITEMS, THE AIDED ITEMS THAT WE'VE HAD FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING UP TO THE NEXT SET AGENDA ITEMS, MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE UP, AGENDA ITEM 19, AND THEN 21 THROUGH 27 NEXT.
WELL THAT THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT EMOTION IS SECOND IN BETWEEN ITEMS. UM, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SUGGEST WE TAKE A SHORT BREAK.
WELL I JUST, I MEAN, THEY'RE EIGHT ITEMS FROM MULTIPLE WEEKS AGO.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE EARLIER IN THE EVENING AND LATER IN THE EVENING.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S TAKE A, LET'S TAKE A BREAK.
WE'VE BEEN GOING AT IT PRETTY HARD.
WE'LL RECONVENE AT 10 O'CLOCK AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER AT 10 0 4.
UM, THE COUNSELOR, ALISON, THE, THE ITEMS THAT YOU YOU'RE WANTING TO MOVE UP.
UH, I THINK WE CAN MOVE SOME OF THEM UP, BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH DOES IT, YOU KNOW, SET UP IN A WAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE, THE ITEMS THAT I KNOW WE HAVE FOLKS HERE FOR AS BEST AS WE CAN.
UM, THE, THE NEXT ITEM COFFEE D SEVEN HAS THREE PRESENTERS READY TO GO.
SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT THEM, UH, PUT THEM FURTHER BACK RELATED TO OTHER COUNCIL PRIORITY ITEMS, BUT WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TWO OR THREE MORE THAT ARE IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE FOLKS HERE FOR.
SO I I'M, I'M, I'M PREPARED TO STAY AND TRY TO GET THROUGH ALL THIS TOO.
I JUST, I DON'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT ORDER, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT.
SO, AND I COMPLETELY AGREE, AND I DO.
MY ONLY POINT IS THOSE ITEMS, SOME OF THEM ARE FROM A MONTH AGO, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE AS WELL, LOOKING TO PRESENT THE GRANITE SHOWS PRESENTERS HERE.
THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT I KNOW ARE FOLLOWING ONLINE WITH THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. THEY MAY NOT BE PHYSICALLY HERE, BUT EVERY AGENDA ITEM IS IMPORTANT TO SOMEBODY.
AND SO THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN PUSHED OFF IN SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT MIDNIGHT AND ONE IN THE MORNING ON SOME OF THESE THINGS AND I, I GET IT AND I GET THEY'RE HERE TO DO THEIR THING AS WELL, BUT THERE ARE FOLKS WAITING TO, TO MOVE THROUGH THESE THINGS AND FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, AND THESE ARE JUST FROM PAST AGENDAS.
AND THAT, THAT IS REALLY MY POINT HERE IS THAT THESE THINGS WOULD, WOULD NEED, WOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE WE DIDN'T GET TO DO THEM THAT NIGHT, BECAUSE IT WAS ONE IN THE MORNING.
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THEM BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM THE NEXT DAY.AND IT'S JUST, I WANT WANNA, LIKE I SAID, THOSE, THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE AS WELL.
AND THERE'S PEOPLE FALLING IN.
IF WE WANT TO DO 14 FOR THOSE THREE PRESENTERS AND HAVE THEM DO THAT AND THEN PICK UP IT.
I JUST, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROPOSING, UH, WHICH ONE IS THE, WHICH ARE THE ONES YOU'RE WANTING TO PUT THE EIGHT POSTPONE.
SO THAT'S 19 AND THEN 21 THROUGH 27.
I SAID, IN FACT, I SENT AN EMAIL TO PAIGE AND SCOTT AND TOLD THEM THAT I WAS CONCERNED REGARDING A POTENTIAL TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT VIOLATION.
CAUSE I SAID DURING THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING COUNCIL WAS ADVISED THAT ANY RECESS OF A MEETING WOULD HAVE TO MEET AGAIN IN GOOD FAITH WITH ANY LEFTOVER ITEMS BEING RESUMED WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY FOR 24 HOURS.
SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO VOTED TO RESUME THE NEXT DAY, FAILED TO SHOW UP TO THE COUNCIL MEETING.
AND THE QUORUM WAS NOT MET AFTER REVIEW OF THE AGENDA SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 21ST.
I TOLD THEM THAT I NOTICED THAT YOU'RE PUSHING SOME OF THOSE ITEMS FROM THE POSTPONED MEETING YET AGAIN, TO THE END OF THE AGENDA.
AND IN COUNCIL MEMBER ALISON'S CASE, IT HAD BEEN TWO MEETINGS SINCE THE NUMBER 24 IS POSTPONEMENT THE RECORD.
IT'S MUCH, MUCH LONGER THAN TWO MEETINGS FOR US TO GET POSTPONED.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ITEM RIGHT NOW THOUGH.
SO THIS ISN'T REALLY A DEBATE, THIS DISCUSSION, CERTAINLY NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SPEECHES, BUT WE'RE JUST REQUESTS.
WELL, WE ALL, WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OPINION AND TO MAKE A SPEECH AND TO DO WHATEVER WE FEEL LIKE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE WANT TO VOICE.
YOU DO VERY MUCH THINK THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
I'M NOT IN BECAUSE YOU SAID, SO I'M NOT OKAY, WELL, LET'S TAKE UP 14 AND THEN, UM, WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THE OTHERS.
THE, THE, THE THREE AT THE END, WE NEED TO GET THE ACTUAL CONTRACTS AND THOSE THINGS FIRST.
BUT, UM, BUT, BUT WE CAN TAKE UP SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS, UH, AS WELL.
SO I'M GOING TO BRING UP AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER
[14. Consideration and Possible Action on Request to Waive the Value to Lien Ratio in the City's PID Policy for the Kyle 57 Project. ~ James R. Earp, Assistant City Manager]
14, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON REQUEST TO WAIVE THE VALUE TO LIEN RATIO IN THE CITY'S PIT POLICY FOR THE COFFEE D SEVEN PROJECT, MR. MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, JAMES AARP, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, THE, THE CONSULTANTS ARE CERTAINLY HERE.SO I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINT.
THE REQUEST IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMPLE.
UH, WHEN WE CREATED OUR PID POLICY, WE ESTABLISHED A 3, 2, 1 LEAN RATIO THAT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF, UH, BONDS THAT CAN BE ISSUED UNTIL THE EVALUATIONS ON THE PROJECT ARE HIGHER, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF CALL 57, HE HAS ONLY 57 ACRES SINCE THE NAME.
UM, THEY'RE IN A POSITION WHERE IF WE HOLD THAT TIGHT, THE REQUIREMENT, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO A SECOND BOND ISSUANCE FOR LIKE $800,000 LATER.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE COSTS OF THE BOND ISSUANCE ON TOP OF IT.
SO THEY HAVE A PROPOSAL SINCE THERE'S REAL COSTS TO THEM.
IF THEY HAVE TO DO TWO ISSUANCES, THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO WAIVE THE THREE TO ONE REQUIREMENT, AND WE HAVE JOHN STEIDER HERE FOR PID, AND WE HAVE, UH, THE BOND FOLKS, AND WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER ALL HERE TO BUILD, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
BUT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, THEY CAN, THEY CAN, UH, OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS BY, UH, CONTRIBUTING MORE DOLLARS TOWARD THE BEARING OF THE OVERHEAD, UH, COMMUNICATION LINES, RIGHT? AND THEY CAN ONLY, THEY ONLY HAVE TO DO ONE BOND ISSUANCE AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THEY GET THINGS BUILDING THEY'LL HAVE THE VALUATION ON THE GROUND THAT THEY NEED.
SO HOW MUCH CLOSER DOES THIS GET THEM TO THE FULL AMOUNT THAT IT IS THE FULL AMOUNT EFFECTIVELY? CAUSE THEY, THEY ESTIMATED IT TO BE A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO NOW THEY HAVE THE 500,000, WHICH WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PID PROPOSAL.
AND BY, BY SAVING THE EXTRA ISSUANCE DOLLARS IN MIDDLE TO DO IT UPFRONT, THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE ANOTHER 500,000 AND MAKE IT A MILLION DOLLARS.
UH, IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE CODIFIED WITH THIS VOTE? YES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY THE, THE, THE PID, THE NEXT PIECE IS THE PDF AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED.
AND THAT'S WHEN ALL THE LIST OF ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE RIGHT, JOHN.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY IT.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM AND LET Y'ALL ANSWER ANY, OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR THEM.
UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL DANIEL MCELRATH WITH A MILESTONE COMMUNITY BUILDERS, A DEVELOPER ON THE PROJECT.
UM, AS JAMES SAID, THE, UM, THE ASK HERE IS A SLIGHT WAIVER ON THAT THREE TO ONE VALUE LANE.
BY DOING THAT, WE HAVE ENOUGH, UM, ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS ALREADY IN THE BOND TO SUPPORT AN EXTRA $600,000 IN THE, UM, IN THE BOND PAR, WHICH WOULD GET US TO ABOUT AN EXTRA $500,000.
IT WOULD MAKE UP THAT TOTAL OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WE'RE ESTIMATING THE COSTS TO BE, TO GO TOWARDS BEARING THOSE TELECOMS, UH, ALONG ONE 50 WHILE WE'RE BUILDING THE PROJECT AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO THAT RATHER THAN HAVING TO WAIT.
AND THE CITY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT, UH, UH, I THINK AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A CONSIDERATION
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OF A CIP BOND IN PLACE TO HELP GENERATE THE FUNDS TO BURY THE TELECOMS ALONG ALL ONE 50.SO IT WOULD ALLOW US TO GENERATE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS NEEDED TO BURY THOSE TELECOMS IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY WHILE WE'RE CONSTRUCTING THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS ON OUR PROPERTY.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT CUSTOMER ZONE.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS ON ONE 50, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE GOTTEN BACK FROM THE RESIDENTS IS THAT, UH, ANY IMPROVEMENTS GOING ON ONE 50, UH, USUALLY DON'T BE IN PR AREN'T IMPROVED.
SO THE CONDITIONS AROUND THERE, THE FENCING'S THAT ARE GETTING, UH, PUSHED AROUND WITH SOME OF THE WORK BEING DONE FROM THE PRIVATE, UH, ALONGSIDE THE HOMES OF THE PRIVATE RESIDENTS, UH, GRASS NOT GOING BACK IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ANYTHING THAT WE DO ALONG ONE 50, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GO BACK AND WE FINALIZE, UM, PLANTING, GRASS, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO.
SO THERE ISN'T ANY, ANY FOLKS I KNOW YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND THAT'S THE ANTHEM WATERLINE THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT IN THEIR PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S THEIR PROPERTY.
SO THERE W THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY, ANY PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO READ VEGETATE AND DO THE NORMAL STUFF, VEGETATION STEAL.
CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE COMING INTO THE CITY, THAT'S STILL ONE OF OUR GATEWAY.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE, UH, TAKE CARE OF THOSE IMPROVED, THE SURFACES IS IMPORTANT.
UM, SO IN THE LETTER IT SAYS YOU'RE REQUESTING A ONE-TIME WAIVER OF THE CITY'S THREE TO ONE VALUE LANE.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, THERE IS NO ATTACHMENT TO THIS.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE VALUE TO LEAN THAT YOU GUYS WANT IT? SO THE VALUE TO LEAN ON THIS AND, UM, IT'S IN THE, IF YOU INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL $500,000 TO GET, UM, TO THE BOND PAR $600,000 TO THE BOND, PAR THAT VALUE TO LEAN BECOMES 2.35 TO ONE.
UM, AND WHAT I CAN SAY IS WE GET THAT VALUE TO LEAN BACK UP TO THREE TO ONE VERY QUICKLY.
IT WOULD TAKE, WELL, YOU NEED TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY UNDER 10 HOMES, UH, VERTICAL TO GET THAT VALUE, TO LEAN BACK UP TO THREE, TO ONE ON THE PROJECT.
AND BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK OUT WITH CITY STAFF, WE HAVE A, UM, PRAIRIE BUILDING PLAN IN PLACE THAT ACTUALLY IS ALLOWING US TO BUILD 20 HOMES, UH, SIMULTANEOUSLY TO OUR SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS THAT ALLOW US TO HAVE THOSE HOMES COMPLETED WHEN OUR SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETED AS WELL.
AND SO THE TIMELINE ON THAT IS IN THE RANGE OF NINE TO 10 MONTHS, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE THAN THE 10 HOMES NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THAT THREE TO ONE VALUE TO LANE, UM, CONSTRUCTED IN PLACE AND READY TO CLOSE TO CUSTOMERS, CLOSE TO HOME HOME HOMEOWNERS.
DOES DOES THIS, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT US THE CITY? SO IS THIS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE ASKING PEREZ? LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DEFAULTS? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION THAT MAY BE SUITED TO JOHN AMERICA COUNCIL.
JOHN SNYDER WITH B3 WORKS WHERE THE CITY'S PAID ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, SO AS WAS MENTIONED, THE CITY'S PIT POLICIES THREE TO ONE, THIS WOULD TAKE IT DOWN TO 2.3, FIVE, UM, AND TRIPPED TO HAVE A BOARD WITH FMS BONDS.
HE CAN, HE CAN TALK TO WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN FROM AN UNDERWRITING PERSPECTIVE, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE VALUE TO LEAN IS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE LOTS, UH, AS COMPLETE.
SO IF THEY HAVE ALL FINISHED LOTS, THEN YOU'VE GOT IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE BASS, A LITTLE TOUGH TO DO MY HEAD, BUT 2.35.
SO IF IT'S, UH, UM, THE VALUE WOULD HAVE DECREASED BY AT LEAST HALF, FOR THE LOT TO BE WORTH LESS THAN THE OUTSTANDING BOND AT A 2.35.
AND EVEN THEN THE DEBT DOESN'T ACCELERATE SO THAT IF THERE'S A $10,000 LIEN ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, IT'D BE, UH, LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLAR ANNUAL PAYMENT.
AND SO SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO WALK AWAY FROM THAT LOT FOR LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLAR PAYMENT, UH, WHEN THE LOT WAS PROBABLY VALUED AT CLOSE TO 25,000 IN THIS CASE.
UM, SO EVEN THE 2.35, UM, WE HAVE DONE DEALS, UH, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR EVEN SLIGHTLY LOWER THREE TO ONE IS A CITY POLICY.
SO THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING WE'VE PREPARED TO DATE AND EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE IS THAT THE 3, 2, 1, SO THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY POLICY UNTIL WE GET DIRECTION FROM YOU, I'LL SAY, AND WE WANT TO DEVIATE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US THAT DIRECTION, WE CAN, WE CAN DO IT.
BUT UP UNTIL NOW, EVERYTHING, ALL THE SAP'S, EVERYTHING WE'VE DRAFTED HAD BEEN WITH THE 3, 2, 1, BUT PYD BONDS ARE NON-RECOURSE
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TO THE CITY NOW, NOT A PART OF OUR BOOKS, CORRECT.SO, UM, THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY IS IT IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO DO LESS THAN THREE TO ONE? IF THE CITY IS NOT AFFECTED? SO THE CITY, IT, IT DOESN'T DIRECTLY IMPACT THE CITY'S DEBT OR BONDING CAPACITY, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY ARE A CITY OF KYLE BONDS.
SO WE DO WANT TO BE DILIGENT AND CAREFUL, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THERE JUST HEADLINE RISKS.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE BONDS GO IN DEFAULT.
AND WE'RE READING IN THE PAPER THAT CITY OF KYLE ISSUED ISSUED BONDS, THAT THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PROTECT THE CITIES OF TRUST.
WELL, I, MY ONLY FEAR THAT I HAVE IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SHORTAGE OF SUPPLIES.
AND SO IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT YOU GUYS AT LEAST NEED TO IN HOMES, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE MUCH AT ALL, BUT, UM, I KNOW A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS HAVE COMPLETELY STOPPED BUILDING BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SUPPLIES.
SO, UM, THREE THAT'S THE REASON FOR ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING OURSELVES AS A CITY AND IN, AND OUR RESIDENCE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO, UH, THE DEVELOPER ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT IN WRITING TO BEAR THE FULL COST OF BEARING THE LINES.
SECOND, MOVED BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR RIZZO.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YOU CLEAR WHAT I MEANT BY THAT? SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'LL, UH, YOU'LL HAVE YOUR APPROVAL, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO GET IN, IN WRITING WITH THE CITY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BURY THE LINES WITH THE EXTRA PROCEEDS FOR THE PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY FACING ONE 50.
SO SIR, DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? YES, SIR.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AND MAYOR FOR THE RECORD, THAT SAME INFORMATION THAT YOU REQUESTED WILL ALSO BE IN THE PAF THAT COUNCIL WILL ALSO HAVE TO ACCEPT.
WE HAVE ONE MORE PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE.
ARE THEY WAITING ON AGENDA? CORRECT.
WHICH ONES THAT YOU ARE YOU READY TO HOP? HOP AROUND A LITTLE WITH THIS, JENNIFER.
YEAH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION.
I'M GOING TO BRING UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
[24. Consider a request from the Southlake Ranch HOA to remove no parking signs on Granite Shoals Dr. ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]
24, CONSIDERED A REQUEST FROM THE SOUTH LAKE RANCH HOA TO REMOVE NO PARKING SIGNS AND GRANITE SHOALS, UH, COMES ALISON.UH, SO THIS IS THE ITEM I SPONSORED, UH, PER THE REQUEST OF THE, UH, SOUTH LAKE RANCH, H A UH, JUST A LITTLE BACK HISTORY.
UM, UH, THE COUNCIL APPROVED TO PUT UP NO PARKING SIGNS AND CREATED AN ORDINANCE, UH, TO GOVERN IN SOUTH LAKE RANCH.
AND THEY'VE BEEN UP FOR THESE TWO YEARS OR SO NOW TWO YEARS TIME FLIES.
UM, AND SO, UM, I WAS APPROACHED ABOUT HOW TO GET SOME OF THE SIGNS REMOVED, AND I TOLD THEM THAT THAT WOULD BE THE SAME PROCESSES THEY DID BEFORE AND REQUESTING THE SIGNS TO BE PUT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE SHE'S STILL ON THE HOA BOARD.
A BRAND NEW HEINDEL CAME IN AND GAVE A PRESENTATION TWO YEARS AGO TO COUNCIL.
AND, UH, THEY SURVEYED THEIR RESIDENTS.
THEY GAVE, THEY SHOWED US DATA AND INFORMATION THAT THEY DID TO PULL THEIR RESIDENTS IN THE MAJORITY OF THEM SAID THAT THEY WANTED THEM AND ON THE VARIOUS STREETS THAT WE PUT THEM.
SO THAT WAS, UM, IF I MAY SPEAK FOR A COUNCIL BACK THEN, THAT WAS BY AND LARGE, WHAT MOVED THE COUNCIL TO PUT THE SIGNS THERE.
AND I TOLD THEM THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD REMOVE ANY WITHOUT THE SAME KIND OF DUE DILIGENCE THAT WAS DONE, UH, TO GET THEM PUT THERE.
AND SO, UM, MR. AARON MARGIN IS HERE TO PRESENT.
HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA HERE AT THE SOUTH LAKE RANCH, UH, SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO HIM.
THE PRESENTATION IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS BEFORE WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH DATA BECAUSE OF COVID.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PROVIDE AS TO WHY TRAFFIC IS DIFFERENT.
OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS SPECIFIC STREET, IT IS NOT A THROUGH STREET IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
IT THERE'S NO OTHER RESIDENTS THAT HAVE TO GET TO THEIR HOMES GOING THROUGH OUR STREET, UH, THROUGH BRANDISH WHOLE SPECIFICALLY.
AND SO 15 OF THE 22 RESIDENTS WANT THOSE SIGNS REMOVED FROM THAT STREET.
UM, SINCE SCHOOL HAS BEEN BACK IN SESSION, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY, ANY PROBLEMS WITH PARKING IN THAT GENERAL AREA.
GRANTED AGAIN, THE STREET SIGNS ARE UP BRIGHT.
HOW DO YOU PROVE A NEGATIVE? SO I'M, I'M AT A MUCH BIGGER DISADVANTAGE HERE THAN,
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THAN MY PREDECESSOR WHEN PRESENTING ANYTHING.UH, HOWEVER, AS I SAID OF THE 22 RESIDENTS ON GRANITE SHOALS DRIVE, SPECIFICALLY 15 OF THEM DO WANT THE SIGNS DOWN.
AND, UH, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE SIGNATURES IF YOU NEEDED SIGNATURES.
I KNOW DEX TOLD ME THAT THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY NECESSARY, BUT I CAN PROVIDE THOSE TO YOU IF YOU NEED THEM.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE GET TO REUSE THE SIGNS YOU'RE RIGHT HERE.
CERTAINLY I'LL SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND MR. MARSH AND WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE IN TIME THAN WE WERE TWO YEARS AGO, BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY WERE ABLE TO GET THE NUMBER OF 15 OUT OF 22, AND I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRUDENT OF YOU TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW COUNSEL THAT THAT IS THE REQUEST.
AND I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T TAKE YOUR WORD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT YOU'RE NOT A TRUSTWORTHY PERSON, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT COMPELLED COUNCIL LAST TIME WITH BRANDY'S PRESENTATION IS SHE HAD SO MUCH DATA FOR US TO CONSUME AND THEN MAKE OUR DECISION ON.
SO I HAVE TO SAY I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THAT ISN'T THE CASE TONIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU, I GUESS I MUST HAVE MISSED THAT ON THE SIGNATURE PART.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE BECAUSE I THINK THAT DOES HELP SHOW, YOU KNOW, THAT IF THERE ARE 222 RESIDENTS ON THERE AND 15 OUT OF THE 22, THAT'S IT, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER AND THE MAJORITY REQUESTING THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S COMPELLING, BUT WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE TOUGH BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN READING THE MESSAGE BOARDS ON NEXT DOOR AND THE FRUSTRATION AND COMPLAINTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HEARING THROUGH THE WINDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE SIGNS.
AND WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING THAT.
AND I'M LIKE, THERE HAS BEEN NO SUCH DISCUSSION OF THAT.
AND I WENT ON THOSE MESSAGE BOARDS AND SAID IT SUCH THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION ON THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM.
AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE TOUGH THING ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS IS ONCE ONE NARRATIVE GETS OUT THERE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH FACT IS IN THAT OR NOT, THAT TENDS TO BE THE STORY BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST NARRATIVE PUT OUT THERE.
AND SO I'LL CERTAINLY LET COUNSEL HAVE BATTED ON THIS, BUT I WILL SAY I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO CONSIDER JUST LIKE WE DID TWO YEARS AGO ON MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT IT WAS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEIR STUDENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I KNOW THEY HAVE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT STRIDES IN IMPROVING THAT, AND I CAN IMAGINE HOW CUMBERSOME AND IT MAY BE WITH THOSE SIGNS.
DO YOU LIVE ON THAT STREET? DO SOME SHORTENED.
AND SO, AND SINCE THOSE SIGNS WERE PUT UP THE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE SCHOOL HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
THEY ACTUALLY CUT THROUGH THE CONCRETE.
SO THAT WAY STUDENTS CAN ACTUALLY GET THROUGH BOTH, BOTH EXITS AND ENTRANCES, WHICH ALSO MADE A DIFFERENCE ON BUTTON CREEK.
SO IN GENERAL, WE'VE SEEN, AND AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO SAY THIS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IN PERSON SCHOOL LAST YEAR.
BUT SO FAR THIS YEAR, THOUGH TRAFFIC HAS BEEN BAD.
IT WAS DEFINITELY BETTER THAN IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN 2019 BEFORE EVERYTHING GOT SHUT DOWN FOR COVID.
UM, SO AGAIN, LIKE HOW TO QUANTIFY BAD, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY CARS TRAVEL THAT ROAD EVERY DAY OR EVERY MORNING TO QUANTIFY THAT SPECIFICALLY.
BUT
UM, THIS WAS BECAUSE OF THE PARKING ISSUE, BECAUSE WHAT ABOUT TRUE TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING ELSE? BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE STUDENTS WERE PARKING THERE AND THE REASON THEY WERE PARKING THERE IS TO GET AROUND, UH, NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR A PARKING PLACE, OR MAYBE I'M NOT BEING COMPLETELY COMPLIANT WITH SOME OF THE SCHOOL RULES.
SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT THE KIDS WERE PARKING OVER THERE, GAVE HIM A PLACE TO PARK AND NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT ON THE LOT, OR THE LOT WAS TOO FULL.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES FOR STUDENTS.
SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THESE SIGNS.
IF WE MOVE THAT WAY, LUCY SIGNS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACK HERE A MONTH LATER, IT'S ASKING US TO PUT THEM BACK UP BECAUSE THERE'S NO PARKING.
THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS, I REMEMBER THE RESIDENTS COMING OUT HERE AND THEY WERE LIKE HELP PLEASE, BECAUSE IT WAS THAT BAD.
AND WHAT I WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THIS.
IF YOU BRING FORWARD THE SIGNATURES, EVERYTHING ELSE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M NOT GOING BACK DOWN THAT ROAD.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING OUR RESOURCES IN THE CITY TO TAKE THEM UP, TAKE THEM DOWN, PUT THEM UP, PUT DOWN.
SO REALLY THINK HARD ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BECAUSE ONCE IT'S DONE, IF IT GETS DONE, IT'S NOT GOING TO GET DONE AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH.
UM, CAUSE I REMEMBER THE RESIDENTS AT THAT TIME, REALLY COMING IN HERE AND HAVING A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT.
I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT A PERSON THAT WAS HANDICAPPED, NOT BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THEIR HOME.
UM, SO, UH, JUST MAKE SURE YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING
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BEFORE, UH OH AND ABSOLUTELY.THIS AGAIN IS JUST FOR THE STREET OF GRANITE SHOALS DRIVE BECAUSE LAKE WASHINGTON, BUT HECK LAKE WASHINGTON IS EVEN STILL A PROBLEM JUST FOR PARENTS PICKING THEIR STUDENTS UP, RIGHT? EVERY SINGLE DAY, EVEN WITH THE NO PARKING SIGNS, THE PARENTS LINE UP DOWN LAKE WASHINGTON, LAKE WASHINGTON IS STILL A PROBLEM AND RENEWING REMAINS A PROBLEM.
THAT'S WHY LAKE WASHINGTON IS NOT A PART OF THIS.
UM, HOWEVER, AS I SAID, GRANITE SHOALS DRIVE IS NOT A THROUGH STREET.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO ON GRAND INITIALS DRIVE.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
SO PART OF THE REASON WHY THEIR SCIENCE NEVER GOT PUT UP ON GRANITE SHOALS TO BEGIN WITH WAS IT WAS A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION VOTE WITH PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LIVE ON THAT STREET SINCE THEN.
WE'RE NOW TWO YEARS LATER AND THE RESIDENTS OF THAT STREET HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, WHICH IS WHY, AS I SAID, 15, AT THE 22 HOMES HAVE SPECIFICALLY ASK YOU WHAT THE PROBLEM IS WITH IT.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE WITH THAT? WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, I'LL JUST USE MINE.
I HAVE TWO VERY LARGE TRUCKS, VERY LARGE TRUCKS.
AND ACTUALLY YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A WHILE AGO, YOU PUT MY TWO VERY LARGE TRUCKS IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN YOU PUT MY CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.
AND I NOW GO TO THE VERY EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH APPARENTLY I DON'T OWN.
SOME OF MY DRIVEWAY IS CITY PROPERTY, RIGHT? THAT, THAT SMALL EASEMENT, WELL NOW I'M GETTING TICKETS FROM CODE COMPLIANCE BECAUSE I'M THREE FEET PAST ON MY DRIVEWAY.
SO WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT? YOU KNOW, I CAN'T JUST SELL MY TRUCK TO LIVE AT MY HOUSE.
WE'VE GOT, IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THERE? WE HAVE OTHER RESIDENTS.
UM, WELL ACTUALLY THEY ALL HAVE TRUCKS.
I HATE TO TELL YOU AT THIS POINT, THE MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE TRUCKS.
UM, THE FAMILY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, THEY HAVE THREE KIDS THAT ALL DRIVE.
PLUS THE TWO ADULTS THAT DRIVE FIVE CARS, ONE DRIVEWAY, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.
RIGHT? SO THEY TRY, THEY DO THEIR BEST, BUT THEY USUALLY HAVE TO USE THE NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY.
SO BACK BEFORE I HAD, YOU KNOW, FOUR VEHICLES THEY'D USE MY DRIVEWAY OR HER OTHER NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAY, WE'VE GOT MANY FAMILIES WITH MULTIPLE DRIVERS IN THE HOUSE.
AND SO AGAIN, AT THIS POINT FOR A STREET THAT NEVER HAD A PARKING PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH TO HAVE NO PARKING SIGNS, WHEN WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM, BEING ABLE TO FIT ALL OF OUR VEHICLES, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN.
WHAT KIND OF TRUCKS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PICKUP TRUCKS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL TRUCKS? I HAVE A DOT, I HAVE A RAM 2,500 LONG BED QUAD CAB WITH GRILLS ON IT.
AND THEN I'VE GOT A F 50 LONG BED QUAD CAB DOOLEY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY BIG PICKUP.
I WASN'T TRYING TO BE INSULTING.
JUST LIKE TRYING TO EXPLAIN THIS THE SHEER MASSIVE SIZE OF THE TRUCK.
SO THE, I WAS JUST WONDERING, I WAS MAKING SURE THAT THIS WASN'T COMING FORWARD, MAYBE SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES, COMMERCIAL THEIR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN, IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AS REASON FOR MY QUESTION IS JUST TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, UH, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S FOR PERSONAL VEHICLES, NOT FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLE, UH, KNOWS THE REASON I WAS ALLUDING TO THAT.
BUT YEAH, UH, DEFINITELY I WOULD COME BACK WITH MORE, UH, FOR MY, MY SAKE.
I'M NOT TALKING FOR COUNCIL FOR MYSELF.
I LIKE TO SEE A COUPLE MORE RESIDENTS HERE AS WELL, BECAUSE LIKE I TELL YOU, THIS WAS, THIS WAS A VOTE THAT WE TOOK AND THE PEOPLE WERE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.
SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT SAME PASSION COME BACK.
I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE OTHER SIDE DID YOU TALK TO THE OTHER SEVEN PEOPLE IF YOU DID, AND WHAT DID THEY SAY? I KNOCKED ON DOORS.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I DID NOT GET TO TALK TO.
AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO SAID NO, THAT THEY WANT THE STREET SIGNS TO REMAIN.
THERE WAS ACTUALLY ONLY SPECIFICALLY TWO PEOPLE I TALKED TO WHO DID WANT THE STREET SIGNS TO REMAIN.
AND THEN THERE WERE WELL, FIVE, THE MATH, FIVE OTHER PEOPLE WHO DID NOT ANSWER, OR THEY WERE NOT HOME OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
THERE'S TWO ACTUAL ACTIVE PEOPLE WHO TOLD ME.
YOU'RE WELCOME CUSTOMER TOBY'S.
YEAH, THIS IS IN MY AREA AND UH, WE DID HAVE OUR CONVERSATION AND, YOU KNOW, UH, I DID GO BACK AND DID RESEARCH.
I ACTUALLY GOT WITH, UH, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, DAPHNE ENTREPRENEURIAL ON THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE I WANTED THE HISTORY OF, I WANTED THE WHOLE NOT WHOLE STORY ABOUT WHAT IT WAS.
UM, AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE STUDENTS AND THERE WAS A HUGE PETITION THAT CAME OUT AND YES, WE DID HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT NOW, SCHOOL IS NOT AS, UH, IN MOTION AS WOULD,
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WOULD BECAUSE OF COVID.BUT THEN AGAIN, WHEN IT DOES GET BACK TO NORMAL AGAIN, UM, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO THEN AS WELL? ARE WE GOING TO PUT THE SIGNS BACK UP? BECAUSE THE SAME, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
YOU WERE SAYING THAT IT WORKS.
STUDENTS WERE PARKING IN THE, IN THE AREA AND IT WAS NOT SO MUCH THERE, BUT NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT IT HAS TO DO WITH VEHICLES THAT ARE GETTING TICKETED.
SO IS THAT THE REAL ISSUE OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ON GRANITE SHOALS FEELS LIKE, HEY, THERE WAS NEVER A PROBLEM FROM THE BEGINNING AND GOING BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER FLOORS, THIS QUESTION LAKE WASHINGTON HAS SCIENCE, CORRECT.
HOW, WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN SAYING? WHAT ARE, IF WE TAKE THOSE SIGNS DOWN ON YOUR STREET, ARE THEY GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT OUR SIGNS REMOVED AS WELL, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN GETTING EMAILS ABOUT THEM HEARING SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I'VE HAD AT LEAST TWO RESIDENTS ALREADY VERY, VERY CONCERNED SAYING, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THESE SIGNS DOWN.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN HEARING SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT US DOING THAT.
AND I HAD TO REASSURE ONE PERSON.
I HAD TO CALL THEM AND CALM THEM DOWN AND SAYING, RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD UNTIL JUST RECENTLY WHEN IT'S BEEN PUT ON THE AGENDA.
SO AGAIN, IF WE WERE TO GO THIS ROUTE ONCE MORE, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE AMMUNITION, OR WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, WE REVERSING WHAT IT IS.
AND THEN ONCE IT'S DONE, WE DON'T WANT TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY GET BACK IN SESSION AGAIN AND IT'S GOING TO BE FOREGOING.
AND SO ARE WE GOING TO SEE OURSELVES A YEAR FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW WITH EVEN MORE TRAFFIC? LIKE I'VE BEEN SAYING BEFORE, UH, OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE LATER ON? UNDERSTOOD.
AND AS I SAID, EVEN WHEN TRAFFIC WAS IN FULL SWING, GRANITE SHOALS DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARKING ISSUE.
SO THAT WAS LAKE WASHINGTON DOES SOUND LIKE BEN DOES.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE AS YOU SAID SO FAR, NO RESIDENTS HAVE NOT, A SINGLE RESIDENT HAS ASKED TO REMOVE THE SIGNS ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE STREETS.
UM, AND IN FACT, NOW AGAIN, TURNOUT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY LOW TO HOA MEETINGS.
IN FACT, OUR LAST MEETING DID NOT HAVE A SINGLE RESIDENTIAL UP, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE TELLING ME THAT THEY WANT SIGNS DOWN OTHER THAN GRANITE SHOALS DRIVE.
SO, AND FACT, I HAVE NOT HAD A SINGLE RESIDENT OTHER THAN GREENISH HILLS DRIVE COME TO ME.
AND THIS WHOLE THING STARTED WITH ABOUT SIX RESIDENTS COMING TO ME, ASKING FOR THE SCIENCE TO COME DOWN.
I SAID, HEY, THAT'S A CITY THING.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE UP WITH CITY AND THEN MORE CAME FORWARD.
AND THEN I WENT KNOCKING ON DOORS BECAUSE AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO DECKS AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PROOF, BUT YOU KNOW, SIGNATURES MAY NOT BE NECESSARY, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PROOF THAT I HAVE TO PROVIDE.
SO THAT'S WHY I WENT KNOCKING ON DOORS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, MAYBE I MISSED THE SIGNATURE PART, BUT I SPECIFICALLY SAID, BRANDY HIGH-DOSE PRESENTATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD FOLLOW.
AND THAT IS WHAT SHE BROUGHT FORWARD.
SHE BROUGHT FORWARD A LOT OF DATA AND THAT INFORMATION THAT I KNOW, I SPECIFICALLY HAMMERED ON THAT POINT AND I'M GOING TO SAY, YOU MISSED THAT POINT.
AND SO I ALSO PURPOSELY MADE THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR YOU ALL TO OWN THIS.
AND YOU JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CITY THING.
WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.
THIS IS THE HOA OF SOUTH LAKE RANCH REQUESTING THIS.
AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHY GRANITE SHOALS WAS THE ONLY STREET NAMED ON THIS BECAUSE EXACTLY WHAT COUNTS MEMBER TO BE IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THOSE SAME EMAILS.
HE'S GETTING, I'VE SEEN THOSE COMMENTS.
I'VE GOTTEN THOSE EMAILS AS WELL, AND PEOPLE ARE, ARE CONCERNED, AND THIS IS PRETTY MY OPINION.
YOU ALL HAVE TO OWN, THIS IS DO Y'ALL WANT THE SCIENCE GONE, THEN SHOW US THAT YOUR RESIDENTS WANT THE SCIENCE GONE.
AND IF YOU FEEL THE ONLY WAY THAT CAN BE DONE TO DO SIGNATURES, THEN BY GOLLY BRANDON, THE SIGNATURES NAVY NEEDED MORE FEEDBACK.
NO, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.
YEAH, JUST TO COME PREPARED NEXT TIME.
THEN IF YOU CAN BRING SOME MORE RESIDENTS FROM YOUR STREET, BE GREAT AS WELL.
AND YOU KNOW, PICTURES HELP AS WELL.
PRESENTATION WILL HELP AS WELL.
SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO GO OVER THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE STREET.
UM, SCHEDULE HAS BEEN PRETTY BUSY, BUT, UH, ANYTHING YOU CAN BRING FORWARD, THAT'D BE GREAT.
WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THEIR ITEMS WITH, UM, UH, PRESENTERS.
SO THAT'S HALF OF LAST WEEK'S AND HALF THIS WEEK'S BUT THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS.
[16. Discussion and possible action to approve employee insurance plans and authorize the City Manager to execute any and all documents for implementation of the plan. ~ Sandra Duran, Director of Human Resources
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ITEM NUMBER 16, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE EMPLOYEE INSURANCE PLANS AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.I THINK WE ALSO HAVE, UH, BRETT BAUER'S ONLINE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, SANDRA DURAN FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY WENT FOR BID FOR EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, UH, DUE TO OUR CURRENT PROVIDER WAS INCREASING THE PREMIUM SIGNIFICANTLY.
THE CITY REVIEWED SEVERAL COMPETITIVE QUOTES, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY SWITCH ITS INSURANCE PROVIDER FROM UNITED, UM, PROVIDER TO UNITED HEALTH CARE COMPANY, OPTION TWO.
AND THE INFORMATION PACKET THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED, THE UHC PROPOSAL PROVIDES THE BEST PRICING OPTION FOR THE CITY BECAUSE OF A CONTINUANCE OVERALL ON THE MEDICAL PLAN, COVERAGE, LEAST AMOUNT OF AUTO POCKET EXPENSES FOR EMPLOYEES AND MAINTAINS THE COVERAGE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE EXISTING CITY PLAN IS STILL GENERATES COST SAVINGS FOR THE CITY, WHICH HELPS US MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL AND THE CURRENT MEDICAL PLAN.
AND WE'LL CREATE THE LEAST FINANCIAL IMPACT AND MINIMAL REDUCTION, IMPLANT COVERAGE FOR EMPLOYEES.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND I DO HAVE BRETT BOWERS FROM HUB AND HE ASSISTED WITH US GOING OUT TO MARKET.
UH, BRETT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? UH, NO SIR.
OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT WE DID DO A COMPREHENSIVE RFP AND WE DID COVER THE MARKET.
UH, SO IS THAT A SITTING UNITED, AS YOU MAY NOT BLUE CROSS TML, UH, MUTUAL OF OMAHA.
THERE'S PROBABLY 30 DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT WE DID SOLICIT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF KYLE AND A UNITED HEALTHCARE WAS BY FAR THE BEST PARTNER.
AND, UH, I DO KNOW THAT IT WOULD, UM, BENEFIT THE CITY, UH, AS FAR AS THEIR BUDGET AND ALSO BENEFIT THE EMPLOYEES AS FAR AS THEIR OUT OF POCKET COSTS.
THANK YOU, BRETT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, CUSTOMER FLOORS, KALE? UM, SANDRA, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US WHAT THE GREATEST GAIN WILL BE BY SWITCHING? THE GREATEST GAIN WOULD BE PROVIDING COPAYS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.
THEY'VE BEEN WANTING COPAYS FOR THE LONGEST TIME AND RE UH, KEEPING THE DEDUCTIBLE LOW.
LIKE WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW AT TWO 50 AND STAYING WITH THE SAME NETWORK THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY WITH TML, WE HAVE UNITED HEALTHCARE, THEY WILL BE SWITCHING TO BLUE SHIELD, BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.
SO IN CONTINUING IN THAT SENSE, WE'LL PROVIDE THE BIGGEST BENEFITS FOR EMPLOYEE CONTINUITY.
WHAT WOULD BE THE GREATEST LOSS? THE GREATEST LOSS, UM, WOULD BE GOING OUT OF NETWORK.
SO IF THE EMPLOYEE IS NOT SMART AND NOT SHOPPING WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, AND THEY GO OUT OF NETWORK, IT IS GOING TO HURT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CONTINUE PUSHING THAT.
UH, THE NETWORK IS BIG, SO THERE'S NO REASON TO SHOP AT A NETWORK.
AND JUST TOUCHING ON IT, A PART OF IT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOW ENSURING THE, UH, FAMILY THAT PRICE IS GONNA DROP COMPLETE, UH, QUITE A BIT, CORRECT.
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE NUMBERS TO MAKE SURE IT DOES DROP IT, UM, ALL THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW SHOW THAT IT IS A DECREASE.
SO HOPEFULLY A LOT OF THE EMPLOYEES CAN NOW SHARE THEIR SPOUSES AND THEIR KIDS WOULD BE GREAT.
WE ALSO, UM, STAFF IS DISCUSSING THAT MAYBE POSSIBLY DO A SELF-INSURED PLAN WHERE WE'D BE ABLE TO OFFER MORE THINGS FOR OUR FAMILY MEMBERS.
IS THERE A SPECIFIC MOTION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FROM US? UM, YES.
IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THE MOTION, IS IT TO SWITCH TO UNITED HEALTH CARE PROVIDER EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST? OR DO WE DO SHE IN THERE? SHE'S COVERED.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, I WOULD, SO THE AGENDA LANGUAGE SERVES YOU WELL FOR MOTION LANGUAGE.
IT AUTHORIZES THE, UH, APPROVING THE NEW INSURANCE PLAN WITH, I WOULD NAME THE SPECIFIC INSURANCE PLAN AND COMPANY AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF WHEN IT WILL BEGIN JANUARY AND I'LL THROW CITY MEANT YOU HAD AUTHORIZED THE MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN AND TO, UM, SWITCH FROM YOUR CURRENT INSURANCE PROVIDER TO THE NEW INSURANCE PROVIDER.
ANYBODY WANT TO GIVE IT A SHOT? SO AS A UNITED HEALTHCARE COMPANY, WHOEVER WANTS TO REPEAT THAT EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2022, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM
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NUMBER 16, AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SWITCH, UH, INSURANCE PROVIDERS, UH, TO UNITED HEALTH CARE, UH, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, MOVED BY THE MAYOR.SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALE GO, I PAGE, I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION.
SANDRA, DO THEY NEED TO SPECIFY WHICH OF THE UNITED PLANS IS BEING CHOSEN? OPTION TWO.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MEND THAT EMOTION TO INCLUDE OPTION TWO, IS THAT AGREEABLE TO YOUR MO YOU'RE THE SECOND.
SO THE MOTION IS TO TAKE THE UNITED HEALTHCARE OPTION TO A EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER TIBIA? I JUST HAVE ONE REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK.
WHEN IT COMES TO PRESCRIPTION MEDS MEDICATIONS, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A, UH, A COST DECREASE FOR 80 MEDICATIONS VERSUS THE OLD, OR IS IT GOING TO BE THE SAME? THERE'S A COST DECREASE WHERE IF IT'S A PREFERRED GENERIC, WOULD THAT SEES THE SAME $10? THERE'S A DECREASE IF IT'S A PREFERRED BRAND, UM, BY $5, BUT THE BIGGEST ONE IS A SPECIALTY DRUGS.
IT'S GOING FROM A HUNDRED TO 70.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW THAT THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF KYLE GET THE BEST HEALTH CARE AND PRESCRIPTIONS.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 17, THEN WE'LL GO 20 AND 21.
[17. Authorize execution of a 12-month professional services agreement with CATALYST COMMERCIAL, INC., Dallas, Texas, for consulting fees not to exceed the amount of $25,000.00 to provide services related to the activation of key mixed use (“Catalyst” areas or “Vybe” areas) within the City of Kyle for the period September 1, 2021 through August 30, 2022. ~ Diana Torres, Director of Economic Development]
AUTHORIZED EXECUTION OF A 12 MONTH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH CATALYST COMMERCIAL, UH, FOR CONSULTING FEES, NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $25,000 TO PROVIDE SERVICES RELATED TO THE ACTIVATION OF KEY MIXED USE, UH, AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE FOR A PERIOD FROM SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR THROUGH AUGUST 30TH OF NEXT YEAR, DIANA TORRES, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL DIANA TORRES, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE RECORD.UM, AS THE MAYOR JUST STATED HERE BEFORE YOU TO ASK FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CATALYST CONTRACT, UM, WE DISCUSSED, UH, THIS CONTRACT DURING BUDGET WORKSHOPS, UH, WHERE WE WERE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON RETAIL RECRUITMENT AT THE TIME.
UM, WE HAVE SINCE, UM, LOST OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND WE HAVE REALLY NEEDED TO FOCUS ON, UM, IDENTIFYING HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF DIFFERENT AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, UH, BECAUSE OF REQUESTS THAT WE'RE GETTING REQUESTS THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS GETTING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UM, THEY HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED A COMMUNITY TOUR WITH BG K.
THEY ARE WORKING ON THE TRAIL STANDARDS TO ADD TO THE FUTURE LAND USE, AND THEY MET WITH, UH, THE CARE WAYS TO JUMPSTART, CALIBRATION OF OWNERSHIP AND CITY GOALS FOR A DESTINATION GATEWAY THAT INTEGRATES INTO THE TRAILS.
THEY HAVE COORDINATED OR ARE WORKING ON COORDINATING WITH POLO LOCO AND END USERS TO ACTIVATE THE TRAILS AND SET UP A COORDINATED AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK.
THEY'RE EVALUATING OUR CURRENT LAND USE STRATEGY AND ACTIVATION FOR THE BOAT TRACK AND COORDINATING LAND USE AND ACTIVATION STRATEGY FOR WORKPLACE.
JASON, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR BACKGROUND IS, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIANA, FOR MR. CLAUNCH CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE? THANK YOU.
I SEE THIS AS IN REFERENCE TO VIBE, UM, WHICH WOULD JUST PASS, SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED.
UM, SO WHEN, WHEN IS THIS $25,000, THIS IS GOING TO BE A ONE-TIME OR WILL THIS YOU KEEP COMING BACK AND ASK YOU MORE, UM, TO INCREASE? LIKE, WHAT DOES IT COVER? DOES IT COVER EVERYTHING IT WOULD BE FOR AND NOT TO EXCEED 25,000? SO WE HAVE BASICALLY, UM, THEY'RE BILLING HOURLY.
AND SO WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF UNTIL THEY HIT 25,000, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR HOURLY RATE IS? JASON? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
JASON, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY? YES.
SO OUR HOURLY RATE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON VARIOUS STAFF.
UM, OUR HOURLY RATE IS $300, BUT, UH, OUR STAFF IS ALSO, UH, AT A RATE OF 201 50.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT STATED IN THE CONTRACT AS WELL.
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I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? LIKE A, WHY ARE WE GOING OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT INSIDE OUR CITY WHEN WE HAVE, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO RUN A ROOKIE.THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE, LIKE PART OF OUR SCOPE AND ROLE WILL BE, UM, MEETING WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN ESSENTIALLY BRINGING, UH, OUR INFORMATION BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN A WORKSHOP AND WORKING WITH STAFF AND, AND, UH, DIANA AND SCOTT, UM, UH, TO OUTLINE THE STRATEGY FOR SOME OF THE VIBE AREAS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN ANTICIPATION OF YOUR FUTURE COMP PLAN.
I THINK THAT, UH, IS ANTICIPATED TO ROLL OUT MAYBE NEXT YEAR AND THEIR BUDGET CYCLE.
I THINK THIS IS AN INTERIM STOP GAP AND, AND REALLY TO KEEP A MINIMUM MOMENTUM ROLLING, AND THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS ALIGNED WITH YOUR GOALS.
SO, UM, UH, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST FEW WEEKS WITH THE STAFF AND, AND MR. SELLERS THAT THEY SEE SCOTT COME ONLINE TO SORT OF PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COLOR OF NEEDED.
SO YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY, LET ME ASK STAFF THIS AND TO INCLUDE SCOTT, HAVE WE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ALREADY WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL? UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE QUESTION, LET ME, LET ME PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
SO THE CITY OF COSMIN WORKING WITH CATALYST COMMERCIAL FOR THE LAST DECADE AND, UH, JASON AND HIS TEAM WAS BROUGHT IN TO HELP THE CITY, UH, RECRUIT FROM A RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, AND THEN MASTER PLAN, UH, DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
THAT'S WORKING WITH THE CITY AND WORKING THE DEVELOPERS THEMSELVES.
AND SO THIS CONTRACT IS BASICALLY JUST BRINGING BACK, UH, ANOTHER YEAR OF, OF CATALYST COMMERCIAL, SIR, VERSUS, UH, AND THE SCOPE HAS, HAS EVOLVED OVER THE LAST DECADE.
UH, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY WE WERE BASICALLY JUST TRYING TO GET RETAIL ON THE GROUND.
UH, AND THEN AS THE CITY HAS GROWN AND MATURED, IT HAS SHIFTED MORE TOWARD THE MASTER PLANNING SIDE OF THINGS.
UH, I WILL SAY THAT JASON AND HIS TEAM WERE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US BRING COSTCO TO KYLE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, OF ALL THEIR EFFORTS.
AND, UH, JASON, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH SOME OF OUR KEY DEVELOPERS, UH, INCLUDING, UH, RICK SHELDON, MIKE ANDERSON, TERRY MITCHELL, UH, AND OTHERS IN, IN THESE KEY DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
AND SO NOW AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR DEVELOPERS, UH, THE, THE NAME MAY SAY VIBE BECAUSE THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
BUT IN GENERAL, JASON HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THESE DEVELOPMENT AREAS, UH, ALONG SIDE CITY STAFF TO HELP MASTER PLAN THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
SO NOW WE DIDN'T RETAIN JASON PREMATURELY OR CATALYST COMMERCIAL TO WORK ON THE VIBE.
UH, WE BROUGHT COWS COMMERCIAL INTO HELP, UH, MAXIMIZE OUR DEVELOPMENT AREA, POTENTIALLY.
WHAT WOULD BE THE CAUSE YOU MADE THE COMMENT OF HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS, THIS CONTRACT AND THEN JUST DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, JASON, YOU WANT TO HIT THEM FOR ME? YEP.
PART OF OUR WORK IS REALLY CONTINUED TO MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE DATASETS, REALLY EXPLORE DEVELOPMENT SCENARIOS, AND THEN BRING THAT INFORMATION TO STAFF AND, AND OR COUNCIL IF NEEDED TO HELP UNDERWRITE SOME OF THE DECISION-MAKING, UH, OR FUTURE DECISION-MAKING OF SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS AS THEY START TO EVOLVE AND PLAY OUT.
AND AS WE KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S CURRENTLY OCCURRING, UH, ON THE TABLE.
AND SO WE'LL HELP YOU GUYS ASSIST WITH, WITH SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT, UH, APPROVALS, UM, UNDERWRITING, AND THEN ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, ALIGNED WITH THE TYPE OF TENANTS THAT MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST.
IF I CAN AN OFFER, MAYBE AN ANALOGY, YOU KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TAKES A LOT OF OUR LARGE MASTER PLANS LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, EVEN THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN, WATER, WASTEWATER, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, STRATEGIC PLAN, YOU KNOW, AND IT TRIES TO COALESCE THAT INTO ONE BROAD OVERARCHING VISION FOR DEVELOPMENT IN KYLE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS, UH, EVEN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, LIKE, LIKE ZONING, UH, CONDITIONAL USE, FUTURE LAND USE, ET CETERA.
SO IT'S JUST A VERY BROAD AREA, UH, BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY A PLAN TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE ON DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFIC AREAS.
AND THAT'S WHERE A CATALYST COMMERCIAL COMES IN AND THEY REALLY TARGET THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULDN'T GET INTO THAT MUCH DETAIL.
SO IF WE DO A COMPREHENSIVE, OKAY.
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IF WE DO THE CATALYST COMMERCIAL AGREEMENT AND THEN WE DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEY DON'T MATCH UP, THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE, WE PAY $25,000 TO A COMPANY THAT CAN DO TARGET SPECIFIC AREAS, AND THEN WE DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR BEGIN IT.AND IN A YEAR WE REALIZED THEY DON'T MATCH UP.
THEN WHAT DO WE DO FROM THERE? I THINK THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD, WOULD ALSO INCLUDE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SO ANY OUTCOMES FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING EFFORT WOULD ESSENTIALLY HELP US CALIBRATE AND REAL REALIGN ANY OF OUR EFFORTS IN REAL TIME.
SO I THINK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING EFFORT WOULD ESSENTIALLY COMPLIMENT AND HELP US REFINE THE WORK THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING.
AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD DO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
FIRST, THESE DEVELOPMENT AREAS, MANY OF THEM ARE, ARE ALREADY WELL UNDERWAY.
AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, REGARDLESS OF, YOU KNOW, CITIZEN INPUT IS NOT GOING TO, UH, GET INTO THE, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO OR LANDOWNERS GOING TO FOR THEIR, THEIR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOING TO BE A GREAT SUPPLEMENT OR AGAIN, THAT KIND OF THE OVERARCHING VISION, BUT THEN CATTLE'S COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO REALLY GET IN AND TARGET EACH ONE OF THOSE, THOSE DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
WE'RE GOING TO, WE'LL AGREE TO DISAGREE.
I BELIEVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOULD COME FIRST AND THEN THAT, WHICH HAS THE RESIDENT INPUT.
AND THEN FROM THERE, CATALYST CAN COME IN AND THEY CAN DECIDE FROM THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HOW WE SHOULD DEVELOP OUR CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO BRING IN A THIRD PARTY TO TELL US HOW THEY THINK WE SHOULD DEVELOP OUR AREA AND THEN GO INTO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I JUST DON'T, I THINK IT'S DOING IT IN THE WRONG ORDER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, PROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.
UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE MAYOR SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM THAT WE APPROVE THE 12 MONTH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, CATALYST COMMERCIAL.
UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH.
MAYOR SENT ITEM 17 OR 16 ON MY ITEM IN 16.
16 WAS 16 WAS, UH, THE INSURANCE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AUTHORIZING, UH, EXECUTION OF A 12 MONTH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH CATALYSTS COMMERCIAL.
OH, IS IT 12 MONTHS OR $25,000 FOR CONSULTING FEES? NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $25,000 TO PROVIDE SERVICES RELATED TO THE ACTIVITY ACTIVATION OF KEY MIXED USE AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE FOR A PERIOD, SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2021 THROUGH AUGUST 30TH, 2010 OR 12, THAT WAS THREE WEEKS AGO.
CAN WE MAKE IT UH, THERE'S UM, RESTATED MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
SO, UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE MOTION AS WELL? YES.
SO YEAH, SO WE GOT THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.
UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? CAN WE, CAN WE HAVE THE PERIODS STARTING LATER AND NOT RETROACTIVE? SO TODAY IS SEPTEMBER WHAT? 21ST.
SO INSTEAD OF THE FIRST, WHICH I'M KIND OF CONFUSED, UM, WE WOULD JUST DO FOR THE PERIOD, SEPTEMBER 21ST THROUGH AUGUST 30TH, IT'S A 12 IT'S 12 MONTH AGREEMENT.
SO THAT'S THE 12 MONTH THEY'VE ASSIGNED.
IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT? NO, I'M JUST CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE'RE GOING TO START AN AGREEMENT.
AND IT WAS FROM THREE WEEKS AGO.
I I'M TRYING TO GET THE MOST MONEY FOR OUR RESIDENTS FOR THE $25,000.
SO IF WE START IT TODAY, AS OPPOSED TO THREE WEEKS AGO, THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US THREE EXTRA WEEKS OR EXTRA TIME OR EXTRA.
I DON'T KNOW, TO ME, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO GO INTO THIS AGREEMENT THAT WAS RETROACTIVE I'M JUST ASKING, CAN WE UPDATE IT TO SAY SEPTEMBER 21ST, AS OPPOSED TO SEPTEMBER 1ST? I'M FINE.
SO IF THAT'S, WHAT IF Y'ALL WANT TO CHANGE IT BY THREE WEEKS, WE CAN DO THAT.
SO IT'S NOT, SO I'M GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF VALUE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE, BUT THAT'S FINE IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.
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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW TO AGENDA ITEM
[20. Consideration and possible action on the termination of the Non-Standard Form of Agreement Between the City and Cadence McShane Construction Company, LLC for the Multi-Story Commercial Building & Mary Kyle Hartson Park Landscaping. ~ James R. Earp, Assistant City Manager]
NUMBER 20 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE TERMINATION OF THE NON STANDARD FORM OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, UH, AND CADENCE MACHINE CONSTRUCTION, UH, FOR THE MULTI-STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING.UH, THIS IS CONNECTED WITH, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21 AS WELL.
SCOTT, DO YOU WANT TO, OR I GUESS THIS JAMES SCOTT, THIS THERE MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, JAMES
SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE NEED TO DO BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING A NEW DESIGN ON THE BUILDING FOR 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON IS TO TERMINATE THE EXISTING CONTRACT THAT IS EXISTING WITH CADENCE MCSHANE, UH, THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE RFQ FOR DESIGN BUILD.
SO THE FIRST ACTION ITEM THAT YOU CALLED UP IS THE, IS THE OFFICIAL NOTICE OF TERMINATING THAT CONTRACT.
AND WE DID TALK IN THE PAST THAT WE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE CHARGES THAT WE'VE INCURRED UP TO THIS POINT.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, NOTHING ELSE.
AND THEN IF WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE DECIDE, WE WANT TO REBID IT FOR DESIGN BUILD OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR JAMES OR OTHERS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE THE BUILDING AND THE LANDSCAPING WE'RE GOING TO DO.
WE'RE GOING TO TERMINATE BOTH OF THOSE CONTRACTS.
UM, AND ARE WE GOING TO MAKE UP FOR THAT LANDSCAPING CONTRACT SOMEWHERE ELSE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
UM, WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL A LANDSCAPING CONTRACT, ARE WE GOING TO DEVELOP ANOTHER ONE? CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN 21.
WELL, SO NORMALLY WHENEVER YOU DO A BUILDING, UH, THE DESIGN TEAM HAS LANDSCAPE PEOPLE AT THE TIME.
WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEPT AND COLEMAN'S FROM DOING THE LANDSCAPING FOR BOTH OF THE LOCATIONS, BECAUSE SHE'S THE FIRM THAT'S DOING THE DOWNTOWN MARY CALLED HUDSON SQUARE AND WE WANTED THE LANDSCAPING TO ALL WORK TOGETHER.
AND UM, WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S THE BEST WAY OF PUTTING IT.
WE WANTED IT TO WORK TOGETHER.
SO, SO WE GAVE HER A SEPARATE CONTRACT TO DO THE LANDSCAPING AND WE KEPT THE LANDSCAPING OUT OF CADENCE MACHINE.
SO WE WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE ENDING UP DOING ANOTHER CONTRACT AGAIN IN THE FUTURE FOR WHATEVER THE NEW FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS.
AND CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE CHARGES INCURRED WERE? NO.
UH, I WANT TO SAY THAT THE LAST NUMBER I SAW AND SCOTT, MAYBE YOU, YOU REMEMBER THIS BETTER THAN ME OR HAVE IT AVAILABLE.
I WANT TO SAY IT WAS AROUND A HUNDRED AND TWENTY, A HUNDRED FORTY, A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY.
IS THAT SOUND RIGHT? WE'LL GET THERE.
I DO KNOW THAT THEY SAID THAT THE LAST NUMBERS THAT THEY SENT AROUND THAT THERE WERE STILL A FEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS THAT FOR ME, IT WAS $126,000 THROUGH AUGUST 24TH.
SO WE'LL HAVE, I MEAN, WE WERE PRETTY MUCH STOPPED WORK, BUT THERE'S STILL INVOICES THAT WILL COME IN.
AND SO WHO IS THAT GOING TO BE A TOTAL LOSS OR CAN WE TAKE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION OR PUT THIS? I DON'T THINK SO.
CAUSE THAT'S ALMOST ALL DESIGNED, SO SOME OF IT WE'VE PAID FOR SURVEY AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN, BUT THAT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL AMOUNT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS.
THEY ARE ELECT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE MOTION TO, UM, UH, MAKE DETERMINATION ON THE, UH, AGREEMENT WITH, UH, CANDICE MACHINE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, MULTI COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND MARY KYLE HARMON, PARKS LANDSCAPING.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COUNCILMAN TO BE A SECOND ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM, CANCELING THE CONTRACT WITH CAIN'S MACHINE AND ON THE LANDSCAPING AS WELL.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[21.
Approve a proposal from BARNES GROMATZKY KOSAREK ARCHITECTS (BGK Architects) in an amount not to exceed $603,000.00 for a 15,000 Square Foot Building for design services for the City's 104 S. Burleson capital improvement project. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager
]ITEM NUMBER 21, APPROVE A PROPOSAL FROM BARNS GRUMET SKI BECAUSE REC ARCHITECTS THE BTK IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 600, $3,000 FOR A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING FOR DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE CITY'S 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.MR. SELLERS AND THEIR COUNSEL.
I HAVE, UH, TODD KAISER, WHO IS ONE OF THE PRINCIPLE, THOSE WITH, UH, BG K ARCHITECTS.
THE COUNSEL AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING HAD APPROVED A COUPLE OF ITEMS
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FOR BTK, NAMELY THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANNING ITEM, AS WELL AS THE CREATION OF DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE CITY.UH, THEIR PROPOSAL WAS ACTUALLY IN MULTIPLE PARTS AND THIS WAS THE FINAL PIECE OF THIS, WHICH WAS THIS.
THEY ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN, UH, LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT CITY OWNED INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON, WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DESIGN FOR THOSE PROPERTIES? AND SO, UH, DGK LOOKED AT THE, UH, LOOKED AT THE LOT AND THEN PROPOSED SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE EXISTING DESIGN THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, WITH EDMUNDSON FLYNN AND, UH, LARGER, UH, QUITE A BIT LARGER AND, AND, UH, BUT FILLS THE BLOCK MORE.
AND SO WITH THAT AS, AS THE BACK DROP HERE, I, I LIKE TO ASK TODD KAISER JUST TO MAYBE SHARE THE THOUGHTS, UH, WHAT WENT INTO THE PROPOSAL AND WHAT'S BEING ANTICIPATED FOR THE DESIGN OF ONE OF FOUR SANTA ROSA.
UH, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN HERE? SO I'LL SHARE JUST A FEW SLIDES.
UM, THERE'S A LOT TO THIS, BUT I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF.
UM, REALLY OUR FOCUS ON THIS WAS TO TIE IT INTO A DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
AND WE LOOKED AT THE POTENTIAL OF THE CURRENT DESIGN BY COLEMAN ASSOCIATES FOR MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK IN THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS YOUR RURAL SOME BUILDING HERE.
UM, IN ESSENCE, THIS WAS REALLY MOSTLY A STUDY JUST TO SHOW HOW WE OPERATE IN THE POTENTIAL OF SOME DIFFERENT SITES WITHIN THE CITY.
ONE, AS SCOTT MENTIONED THAT WE HIGHLIGHT IT WAS THIS, UM, THIS PROJECT AT MARRIOTT KYLE HARTSON HEART.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IN THE DARK MAROON COLOR IS IN ESSENCE, THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND IS DESIRED TO BE FOOD AND BEVERAGE OR SOME TYPE OF RESTAURANT SPACE.
UM, AND IN THE BACK, THIS, THIS PARK DESIGNED BY COLEMAN, UM, AND ACROSS THE STREET, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, OF THE NEW PARK.
AND, UH, IN ESSENCE, THE CONCEPT WAS TO DO SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL WITH THIS FIRST BIG PROJECT, UH, IN THE DOWNTOWN AS A CATALYST, IF YOU WILL, AND TO TIE IN TO THIS CONCEPT OF VIBES AND THE CATALYST.
NOW THIS IS JUST A PLAN VIEW, BUT HOW IT LOOKS IN 3D IS, IS LIKE THIS, THIS IS A SKETCH.
UM, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT IT WOULD INCORPORATE THE NEW DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE CITY.
UM, SO IN A WAY IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO BE A SHOWCASE, UM, TO SHOW OFF THIS NEW PALETTE, THIS, THIS, UM, UM, NEW WAY OF BUILDING A MORE CAREFULLY, UM, BEAUTIFULLY THAT REPRESENTS KYLE.
AND PART OF THAT IS ALL UNDER DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS IN TERMS OF THE MATERIALS, BUT WE HAVE SOME IDEAS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH WE'VE PRESENTED, UH, WE PLAN TO, UM, DEVELOP THEM FURTHER WITH, WITH YOUR GROUP.
BUT, UM, WE SEE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THE RESTAURANT, AS I MENTIONED AT THE LOWER LEVEL, SOME FOOD AND BEVERAGE TO COME OUT ONTO THE SIDEWALK TO AGAIN, ENGAGE THE PARK ACROSS THE STREET, UH, TO CREATE SOME SENSE OF A PASSAIC TO GO THROUGH, UH, IN BETWEEN THE BUILDING TO THE NEW PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND AGAIN, JUST IN TERMS OF THE MATERIALS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY SOME, WE, WE MENTIONED THE, UH, PARTICULAR STONE OR MASONRY PRODUCT THAT WOULD BE PARTICULAR TO KYLE AND BE CARRIED THROUGH IN ALL OF THE FUTURE PROJECTS.
UM, UH, SOME, SOME WOOD, UH, IN THE UNDERSIDE OF THE ROOF, MAYBE SOME OUTDOOR SPACES, UM, AGAIN, DEVELOPING AN ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER, UM, AND REALLY MAKING A, UM, A BOLD AND STRONG STATEMENT WITH THE FIRST PROJECT HERE ON THIS REALLY SPECIAL SITE DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND THAT'S SORT OF WHAT WE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
UM, I SHOULD NOTE ALSO THAT WE HAVE MET WITH CADENCE MCSHANE, UM, PREVIOUSLY, UM, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND JUST UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS WAS AND THE PROCESS, UM, AND JAMES, TO YOUR EARLIER POINT, WE HAVE GATHERED A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY DID DO QUITE A BIT OF SITE DUE DILIGENCE SURVEYS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE CAPTURE THAT VALUE AS BEST WE COULD.
UM, SO IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT WE RECAPTURE SOME OF THAT.
IT WAS NOT ALL A LOSS, UM, TO PERSON FOR KALE'S EARLIER QUESTION.
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OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, A CONCEPT, UM, BUT WITH A TON OF POTENTIAL AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT ANY, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, I JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, I D I DEFINITELY DO NOT SUPPORT THIS.
I'VE STATED THAT AS MUCH, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH QUALITY OF THE ARCHITECTURE.
I BELIEVE THAT WHAT K WILL PROPOSE IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, I'LL WANT TO SEE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE A HUNDRED GRAND, UH, GONE.
WE'RE ABOUT TO ADD 600 MORE TO IT ON A $7 MILLION PROJECT THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR.
SO, UM, THIS IS, THIS HAS GOT SERIOUS RISK ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS IS BECAUSE I QUESTION THE, THE ABILITY OF US TO DEVELOP THE POLITICAL WILL TO FUND AND CAPITALIZE A PROJECT LIKE THIS, UH, EVERY MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD UP UNTIL THIS POINT, UH, WE BROUGHT FORWARD ALONG WITH THAT CAPITAL PROJECT, THAT PROPOSED METHOD OF FUNDING, UH, TO THE END, UH, IT IS, IT IS, YOU KNOW, EVEN OUR ROADS PROJECTS.
YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WHERE WE'RE STARTING ENGINEERING ON THOSE, BUT WITH A, WITH A PLAN TO TAKE THOSE ROADS TO BOND.
UH, SO WE HAVE A WAY OF, UH, GETTING THE ENGINEERING ALL THE WAY TO THE END, UH, PRODUCT.
SO NOBODY HAS BROUGHT THAT UP ON THIS SITE.
WE HAD A, WE HAD A PROJECT, UH, THAT WAS DESIGNED FUNDED, BUDGETED, AND READY TO GO.
UH, IT WAS NOT AS GRAND AS THIS ONE, BUT, UH, IT WAS REAL.
UH, THIS ONE, I JUST, I HOPE THE COUNCIL, IF THEY VOTE FOR THIS IS PREPARING TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING IT, UH, ALL THE WAY.
SO, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT YET, OR HAVEN'T IN MY OWN MIND, FIGURED OUT HOW TO, HOW TO BRIDGE THE GAP.
UH, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.
ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, CUSTOMER FORCED KILL.
GOT, CAN YOU TELL US HOW THIS WILL BE FUNDED IF HE SAYS NO, HE SAYS, NO, NOTHING AT ALL.
I MEAN, I FIND THIS HARD TO BELIEVE.
WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLAN YEAH.
WITH PERVEZ AND I HAVE DISCUSSED IN A PREVIOUS, IF YOU MIND JUMPING ON AND SHARING OUR THOUGHTS, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD ON
WE HAVEN'T REALLY FINALIZED FOR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL YET IT WILL BE PART OF THE FUNDING CYCLE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT IT COULD BE THAT THIS PROJECT CAN BE FUNDED FROM GENERAL FUND 100%, BUT OVER A 24 TO 36 MONTH PERIOD, MEANING TWO TO THREE YEARS IN CASH FUNDING, THE PROJECT, THE OTHER OPTION COULD BE ISSUING CEO'S FOR THIS PROJECT EXCLUSIVELY FOR THIS PROJECT, ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO $7 MILLION, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THAT THIRD OPTION COULD POSSIBLY BE A COMBINATION OF BOTH, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE NOT REALLY FINALIZED WHICH OPTION OF THE THREE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND.
UH, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE NOT ISSUE CEO, BUT DO IT USING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, UH, FOR A PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX, AND OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, MEANING 24 TO 36 MONTHS, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, NOT MY CONCERNS, UH, MY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND I'M WITH, UH, MAYOR MITCHELL ON THIS, MOSTLY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'VE KIND OF FLIPPED BACK AND FORTH.
AND EVEN WITH THIS PRESENTATION, AS I LOOK AT THE BACKUP MATERIAL, I SEE THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS YET.
WE ONLY SEE ONE, UM, THERE WAS ONLY A RENDERING OF, OF THE, OF THE GRANDER ONE.
AND OF COURSE THAT ONE IS A $603 JUST TO, UH, DEVELOP.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, $5 MILLION AS OPPOSED TO THE SMALLER VERSION OPTION ONE, WHICH WAS 3 MILLION, WHICH IS STILL, I THINK AT THAT 0.3 TIMES, THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAD, I THINK THEY ORIGINALLY LIKE PUT THE, THE, UM, GAS LINE MONEY TOWARDS THIS.
SO THAT WAS LIKE ONE POINT SOME ODD MILLION.
AND SOME SOMEHOW IT'S MADE ITS WAY UP TO, UH, BETWEEN THREE AND 5 MILLION.
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AND THAT COMPLETELY MAKES ME NERVOUS, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THE GENERAL FUND.UM, AND SO I RE AS OF NOW, I, WITHOUT A SOLID PLAN, I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE VOTE FOR THIS, BUT YES, FOR THIS, AT LEAST ANY OTHER COMMENTS, CUSTOMER BRADSHAW.
UM, SPEAKING TO WHAT YOU SAID, MAYOR MITCHELL ABOUT POLITICAL, WILL IT REALLY JUST COMES DOWN TO THE QUESTION OF, DO WE WANT TO BUILD THIS BUILDING OR DON'T WE, IF WE DO, WE ARE LOOKING AT AN OPTION LIKE THIS, BECAUSE IN KYLE, WE SAY WE HAVE THE GOLDEN STANDARD.
AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.
AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO INVEST SOME MONEY INTO IT.
I CONSIDER THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WILL PROVIDE THE CITY WITH AN ROI.
UM, SO I THINK OF IT AS MORE OF AN INVESTMENT OR A BUSINESS INVESTMENT RATHER THAN A LIABILITY OR A COST WHEN IT COMES TO THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS.
BUT I THINK US AS A COUNCIL, WILL YOU JUST REALLY NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO, DO WE WANT TO BUILD THIS BUILDING? IF WE DO, WE KNOW WE WANT TO DO IT WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SETTLE FOR SUB PAR WORK SUBPAR PLANS, WHICH IS WHY WE JUST CANCELED THE CONTRACT, NOTHING AGAINST KAYDEN CADENCE, MICHIGAN'S MCSHANE'S WORK, BUT THE SCOPE HAS CHANGED AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BIGGER AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BETTER.
AND SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS.
SO THE QUESTION TO COUNCIL ISN'T WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, OR WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THESE PARTICULAR DESIGNS.
DO WE WANT THIS BUILDING OR DON'T WE AT THIS POINT FINANCIALLY? YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE, UH, ALL SIDE OF IS THAT THIS IS A BUILDING TO BEAUTIFY OUR CITY, BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE'LL BE A MONEY GENERATING ENTITY IT'LL, UH, HAVE LEASE SPACE OUT.
IT'LL HAVE, UH, THESE PAID FOR RESTAURANTS, FOR OFFICE SPACE AS WELL.
SO YOU'RE, WE'RE NOT JUST INVESTING INTO A BUILDING AND LOSING MONEY.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BRINGING MONEY BACK IN AND IMPROVING, UM, BRINGING SOME AMENITIES TO DOWNTOWN KYLE'S.
WELL, UH, WE'RE INVESTING IN THE PARK HEAVILY.
WE'RE, UH, LOOKING AT INVESTING IN ENTIRE THE CITY, UH, HOPING TO HELP SHAPE, UH, SOME OF THE CITY.
SO I'M HOPING THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE THE POLITICAL WORLD BEFORE, BUT JUST REMINDING EVERYONE THAT THIS WILL ALSO GENERATE REVENUE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST, UH, THROWING MONEY AT SOMETHING AND NOT GET NOTHING IN RETURN.
IT'LL TAKE A WHILE TO PAY ITSELF OFF, BUT EVENTUALLY IT WILL, AND WE'LL HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING DOWNTOWN TO SHOW FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
SO THIS IS A PROPOSED 15,000 SQUARE FEET BUILDING.
IS THAT RIGHT? ROUGHLY 15,000 OR IS IT YES.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY ANTICIPATE SEVEN TO $8 MILLION AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE PRICE TAG WE'VE GOT, HOW MUCH IS CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET PERVEZ FOR THE PROJECT YOU'RE MUTED, YOU'RE MUTED PEREZ.
MARY, WE HAVE ABOUT 7 MILLION BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.
SO FAR FUNDED, UH, BOTH FOR THE PARK AND THE BURLESON BUILDING.
WELL, I NEED, I NEED MORE CONTEXT AROUND THAT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE ARE OUR, WHAT'S THE FUNDING GAP BETWEEN MARY CAL HARTSON AND 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON? WHAT'S THE FUNDING GAP WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FINALIZE AT LEAST THE FINAL NUMBERS ON THE PARK PROJECT.
SO WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH REMAINS AVAILABLE FOR THE BURLESON PROJECT AND THE UTILITY, THE UTILITY RELOAD AS WELL.
YEAH, SO WE, THIS, THIS WAS THE INITIAL BUDGET, OUR NOT INITIAL BUDGET, BUT THE LATEST UPDATED BUDGET AS OF JULY 21ST, WE HAD $3.1 MILLION FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING MIXED USE BUILDING AND RESTAURANT 1.8 MILLION FOR THIS, FOR THE PARK REDEVELOPMENT DESIGN FEES, 350,000 OVERHEAD.
YOU TOTALLY RELOCATION 2.5 MILLION AND A SMALL CONTINGENCY OF 387,000, WHICH MADE
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UP TOTAL ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS OF 8.1 MILLION OF THAT.WE HAD SECURED FUNDING, $7 MILLION, MOSTLY FROM GENERAL FUND AND ABOUT 2.7 MILLION, UM, FROM THE, UH, KINDER MORGAN SETTLEMENT.
SO MAYBE ABOUT A $5 MILLION GAP.
WE'RE LOOKING IF, IF THE PARK PROJECT STILL HOLDS TRUE AT 1.8, THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND $5 MILLION GAP.
SO HE GAVE US, HE GAVE US TWO OPTIONS, OPTION.
NUMBER ONE WAS THROUGH GENERAL FUND, UH, MEANING JUST, UH, AND THAT'S AT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT, UH, THAT WE'RE HAVING TO COMMIT NOW.
AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION CEO AND THE REASON THE CEO IS PROBABLY NERVE RACKING IS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING RIGHT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, UH, ISSUING POTENTIALLY LOTS OF DEBT.
AND SO OUR, OUR BORROWING CAPACITY IS GOING TO BE, UH, PRETTY LIMITED DESIGNING A BUILDING DOES NOT TAKE TWO FISCAL YEARS, UH, TO DO IT'S MORE, MORE ALONG THE FOUR TO SIX MONTHS RANGE TO GET IT DONE.
SO I JUST, IF WE DON'T, WE GOT TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THE GAP AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL IF THERE'S A PLAN.
IF WE KNOW WHAT THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO COUNCIL MEMBER RASH, AL'S POINT OF, OF, OF ACHIEVING THIS HIGH, UH, QUALITY BUILDING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF WAY OF FINANCING IT, YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY SHORT.
I THINK THIS DISCUSSION WOULD PROBABLY RUN QUITE A WHILE LONGER, LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK AT ANOTHER MEETING WITH MORE WITH STAFF DIRECTION, TO HELP US TRY TO FIND A FUNDING SOURCE.
THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE UP TO ME.
SO WHATEVER ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SAY.
SO THE MOTION IS JUST A POSTPONE TILL WE DO MORE HOMEWORK ON, OKAY.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY CAUSE RIZZO SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FOREST KELSER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
I ASKED HIM THIS QUESTION MAY PRO TEMP.
SO THIS ISN'T ABOUT BUILDING THIS BUILDING.
THIS IS ABOUT SETTING STANDARDS FOR HOW WE MOVE FORWARD DOWNTOWN AND NOT JUST GOING WITH KNEE JERK REACTIONS ON WHAT TO PUT WHERE, AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PROCESS OF THE OTHER BUILDING, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT WASN'T, THAT WAS FUNDED AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
THEN A BUILDING WAS CHOSEN AND FOUND OUT THAT THE FUNDING THAT WAS IN PLACE FOR IT COULDN'T SUPPORT THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE WAS ALREADY A GAP THERE THAT HAD TO, UH, BE DEALT WITH AND A SOLUTION FOUND.
AND THEN IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT, UM, LEARNING FROM OTHER CITIES WHO DO THEIR DEVELOPMENT IN A WAY THAT IS, UH, A GOLD STANDARD, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, WE WENT DOWN THE ROAD OF TRYING TO FIND AN ARCHITECTURE FIRM THAT WAS GOING TO, UH, HELP US WITH OUR DESIGN STANDARDS FOR DOWNTOWN, AND REALLY YOU UTILIZE, UH, THE MAX POTENTIAL OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE.
SO, UH, WHAT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SEE IS LOOK AT THIS CONCEPT AND GO, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, THAT IS, THAT IS NOT WHAT THE BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE PROCESS THAT WAS, UH, BG PAY GIVEN US EYE OPENERS ON WHAT WE MIGHT BE MISSING OUT ON TO MAXIMIZE POTENTIAL.
SO, WHILE I DO UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR'S OBJECTION ABOUT FUNDING GAPS, UH, WE DEAL WITH FUNDING GAPS ALL THE TIME.
AND WE, THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT WAS IN PLACE THAT WE JUST KILLED THE CONTRACT FOR HAD A HUGE FUNDING GAP.
AND IN THAT PROCESS, WE DIVIDED UP THE COST OF THAT BUILDING AND THE PARK TO KEEP THE PARKSIDE MOVING.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO, UH, VOTE THIS DOWN, I MEAN, BY ALL MEANS, DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO, BUT IT'S NOT THIS BUILDING THAT YOU'RE BUILDING DOWN, IT'S DESIGN STANDARDS THAT YOU'RE VOTING DOWN.
IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DIG IN TO WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THROUGH PROFESSIONAL'S EYES TO GET THE BEST OUTCOME.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A $7 MILLION BUILDING.
IT CAN BE A $5 MILLION BUILDING.
IT CAN BE A $4 MILLION BUILDING.
WE WILL END UP WITH A BETTER BUILDING THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY NEED JERK REACTION PICKED TO TRY TO PUT IN THAT SPOT AT THE EXACT SAME PRICE.
SO REALLY IT'S ABOUT DOING IT THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE, UM, AND
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USING THEIR EXPERTISE TO GET THERE.AND THEN WE CAN DO THAT MOVING FORWARD.
UM, I GLADLY VOTED TO, UH, ELIMINATE THAT CONTRACT BECAUSE I KNEW THE WAY WE APPROACHED IT WAS A NOVICE APPROACH.
AND WE'RE LEARNING AS WE GO HERE TOO ON THAT.
UM, BUT THIS IS THE STEP FOR THAT.
THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, OUR MODEL, THIS IS A CARAMEL MODEL.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, THAT'S REALLY WHERE, WHERE IT STAYS.
AND, AND SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT FUNDING GAPS AND WE CAN USE THAT EXCUSES TO NOT DO SOMETHING THE RIGHT WAY, BUT THIS IS A PATH TOWARDS RIGHT WAY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS.
ANYONE ELSE JUST REAL QUICK, I, I KIND OF DISAGREE ON THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, IT ALL HAS TO COME DOWN TO HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE ON, THIS IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS BUILDING? I UNDERSTAND THAT GOLDEN STANDARD AND UNDERSTAND THE EVERYBODY'S WILLINGNESS TO, TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
BUT AGAIN, WE DO THIS, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MORE DENTAL OR IT, AND IT MAKES US VERY NERVOUS.
THEY CALL OF US, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS AT, AT, AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM LINE? UM, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT I CAN GO ON AND SAY OTHER THINGS THAT OUR CITY NEEDS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE SUBJECT AND THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF MAKING.
WHEN WE, WHEN I FIRST VOTED ON THIS, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, I WAS SEEING A VISION OF A DOWNTOWN, BUT REALITY COMES TO ME TO WHERE IT'S LIKE, IF WE INCURRED THIS DEBT, YOU KNOW, WE STILL DON'T HAVE THAT PLAN IN PLACE OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT IN FALL.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE MY BIG CONCERN ON THAT MARIN MUTUAL CUSTOMERS.
SO I, I HAVEN'T GIVEN UP ON THIS AND THAT'S WHAT WORRIED ME WHEN I BROUGHT MY MOTION FORWARD IS THAT I FELT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE HAD GIVEN UP ON THIS.
I'M NOT GIVING UP ON BEAUTIFYING OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THIS AREA.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT BOARDED UP ONE DAY.
I WANT TO SEE IT VIBRANT AND FAMILIES, UH, PLAYING IN THE PARK, UH, SHOPPING IT'S ONE OF THE VISIONS OF ALWAYS HAD FOR OUR HISTORIC PART OF DOWNTOWN.
I SEE A LOT OF HISTORIC DOWNTOWNS THAT ARE BOARDED UP AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE OUR DOWNTOWN, UH, NOT WHILST IN THE SEAT.
UM, I LOVE THE POINT THAT, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM BROUGHT FORWARD IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SIT ON A $6 MILLION BUILDING.
WE COULD, UH, GO DOWN IN PRICE IF WE NEEDED TO, BUT WE WOULDN'T, UH, GIVE UP DESIGN, UH, DESIGN IS PROBABLY WHAT'S KEY TO US.
UM, SO IF, IF IT'S THE HIGH PRICE TAG, LET'S LOOK AT, UH, UH, A DIFFERENT, UH, LET'S, LET'S SAY A HIGH DESIGN, BUT A SMALLER FOOTPRINT IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO AS WELL.
UM, WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO IS THE COUNCIL, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ON OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
UH, DEFINITELY DON'T SO W UM, UM, I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT COUNCIL HAS THE SAME, UH, RESOLVE AS I DO.
UM, SOME OF US DO SOME OF US DON'T, UM, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT THE DOWNTOWN SUBORDINATE, WE NEED TO DESIGN A STANDARD THAT'S QUALITY AND, UH, IT'S OF BRING FAMILIES AND MORE VISITORS TO THE DOWNTOWN.
WHAT ELSE? BESIDES THE DESIGN OF A BILLION AT 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON IS INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THIS CONTRACT.
K IF YOU COULD JUMP IN HERE, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS STUCK ON DESIGN OF, OF THE BUILDING FOR THAT SPACE.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL, THIS CONTRACT IS SEPARATE FROM THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND MASTER PLAN.
THIS ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY IS REALLY A TURNKEY SOLUTION FOR THIS SITE.
SO IT WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE DESIGN FEES, ALL OF THE CONSULTANTS, SPECIALTY CONSULTANTS, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, ANY IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT AROUND THIS, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
AND AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST A SKETCH CONCEPT.
SO NOT THIS BUILDING IN PARTICULAR, BUT SOME BUILDING ON THIS SITE WITH THESE TYPES OF QUALITIES.
AND THAT, THAT FEE FOR THE DESIGN, AS I MENTIONED, WAS FOR ALL OF THE CONSULTANT TEAMS INCLUDED WITHIN THAT MAYOR.
I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
WE CAN GO UP OR DOWN ON THIS NOW.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO, TO WASTE MORE TIME.
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I'LL RESCIND MY MOTION MOTION.YOU WERE SENDING YOUR MOTION TO POSTPONE BECAUSE I THINK HE WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTE.
I THINK SOME OF THE ISSUES MISCOMMUNICATION, BECAUSE I THINK ANYBODY WANTS A CRAPPY BUILDING OVER THERE.
WE ALL WANT A HIGH PROFILE BUILDING.
WE WANT IT TO BE NICE AND WE WANT IT TO BE THE GOLD STANDARD.
WHAT SOME OF US WANT IS A WAY TO PAY FOR THAT, OR AT LEAST AN EXPLANATION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT.
I'M OKAY WITH THIS BUILDING SO LONG AS WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT.
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE IS HOW WE HAVE A $5 MILLION BUILDING AND THEN CRAP ROADS ALL DOWN HIGH STREET OR HIGH ROAD.
SO I DON'T, IT'S NOT, I'M NOT ANTI THIS BUILDING.
I'M TAKING THIS BACK TO STAFF, FIGURE OUT A WAY AND THEN BRING IT BACK.
OTHER THAN THAT, I'M OKAY WITH IT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THE DOWNTOWN FIXED UP AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.
WELL, I JUST, TH THE, THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE WILLING TO SAVE 5 MILLION MORE DOLLARS IN ORDER TO BRING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO BEAR, TO, TO ACHIEVE THAT STANDARD? BECAUSE WE'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO SAVE IT, OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ISSUE A CEO.
THERE'S REALLY NOT GOOD, YOU KNOW? WELL, IN THE, IN THE RENDERINGS OR IN THE BACKUP INFORMATION, IT HAS TWO DIFFERENT PRICES AND ONE IS $3 MILLION.
SO WHAT DOES $3 MILLION LOOK LIKE OVER THERE? AND LIKE HE SAID, THIS IS JUST A DRAWING.
THIS MIGHT NOT EVEN BE WHAT WE HAVE, BUT YOU REALLY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SELL US ON IT, I NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M GOING TO VOTE ON.
SO IF WE COULD GET SOMETHING THAT'S A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT $3 MILLION WOULD GET US.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING DOABLE.
IT'S NOT FIVE, BUT IT'S THREE.
AND IT'S, IT'S A GOLD STANDARD THREE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS NOT PUT TOGETHER ENOUGH FOR ME TO MAKE A GOOD, A GOOD, SOLID VOTE.
TH THAT IS WHY I'M IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING.
SCOTT, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU COULD KIND OF REARRANGE THINGS AND MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, CONCRETE AND THEN BRING IT BACK WITHIN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, TWO TO FOUR WEEKS AND PRESENT US SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE ALL WANT TO WORK DOWNTOWN.
SO I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE THAT.
SO IF YOU COULD BRING US SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO BE AND WHERE THE FUNDING IS GOING TO COME FROM, I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN SEE ME, BUT WE GO AHEAD AND ASK THEM TO, TO DESIGN A BUILDING FOR US AND THEN BRING IT BACK.
NOT NECESSARILY DESIGN, BUT GIVE US A PLAN, A CITY LIKE A BUDGET PIT LAND FOR FUNDING.
I THINK SHE'S ASKING STAFF FOR FUNDING PLAN IS WHAT SHE'S ASKING FOR.
PROVIDES YOU, YOU THINK YOU COULD BRING BACK SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE, A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE, AND MAYBE WE COULD ADOPT AS A PART OF THIS DESIGN IS, SIR.
I SURE CAN, BUT I WON'T BE BACK IN THE OFFICE TILL OCTOBER FOR, UH, I'M SUPPOSED TO BE SIPPING MY TIE UNDER A COCONUT PALM TREE SOMEWHERE.
UM, IF, IF WE CAN COME BACK TO THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER, IF I COULD HAVE THAT MUCH TIME, I CAN CERTAINLY PRESENT AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR OPTIONS FOR FUNDING MOTION TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK, UH, THE SECOND MEETING.
BUT CAN WE ALSO GET SOME KIND OF LIKE, YOU SHOWED US THIS, THIS IS NOT PLAYING, THIS IS JUST AN IDEA.
CAN WE SEE WHAT A $3 MILLION BUILDING MAY LOOK LIKE? SURE.
I CAN JUST PUT MY HAND OVER HALF OF THIS IMAGE.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT SETS AN ANSWER.
WELL, UNLESS YOU'D BE HALF THE PRICE THEN, CAUSE IT'S 3 MILLION AND 5 MILLION.
IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US HALF OF IT, THEN IT HAS TO BE 2.5 MILLION.
WE'VE GOT EMOTIONAL MOTION BY CUSTOMER IS A SECOND BUY A CASPER FLORES KALE TO, UM, POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER.
SO DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO TWO SCOTT SAID HE JUST LOST HIS CONNECTION.
NOW I'M GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH THE ITEMS AS
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BEST AS I CAN.UH, NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
[15. Approve a contract with UBER TECHNOLOGIES, INC., to provide public transit services within the Kyle city limits and other areas as specified in the agreement. ~ Jerry Hendrix ,Assistant City Manager]
15, APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH UBER TECHNOLOGIES TO PROVIDE PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE CITY LIMITS AND OTHER AREAS AS SPECIFIED IN THE AGREEMENT, MR. HENDRIX, MAYOR COUNCIL, JERRY HENDRICKS, ASSISTANT THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.THIS IS A CONTRACT TO BRING A TOWER TO CONTINUE OUR UBER SERVICES.
AND THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THIS CONTRACT ALSO ADDS A EXPANDED SERVICE AREA.
IT BRINGS THE NUMBER OF TRIPS FROM EIGHT TO 10 FOR THE REGULAR, UH, CALL OVER THREE, ONE, FOUR RIDES ALSO ADDS ONE TRIP TO THE AIRPORT THAT WILL BE SUBSIDIZED.
A RIDER WILL PAY A 31.4% OF THAT RIDE AND WE'LL PICK UP THE REST.
ALSO ADDS, UM, TRIPS TO THE VA CLINIC IN AUSTIN FOR OUR VETERANS.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM ANY QUESTIONS FOR JERRY MAYOR MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 15, MOVED BY CASPER RIZZO.
SECOND, MY CUSTOMER TO BE A SENIOR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
[18. Approve a proposal by T.F. Harper & Associates, LP, in an amount of $112,361.86 for Additional Site Improvements at Mary Kyle Hartson Park. ~ James R. Earp, Assistant City Manager]
HARPER NUMBER 18 YET? YES, MA'AM ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18, APPROVE A PROPOSAL BY TFR AND ASSOCIATES AND AN AMOUNT OF $112,361 AND 86 CENTS FOR ADDITIONAL SIDE IMPROVEMENTS TO MARRY CARDS APART.
MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, JAMES
UM, AS I ALLUDED, THIS IS A DIFFERENT ITEM THAN THE ELECTRICAL ITEM BEFORE.
SO IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH TF HARPER EARLY ON AND, UH, IN OUR DESIRE TO, TO HAVE THE GOLD STANDARD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS PUTTING ALL THE MONEY THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, INVESTING INTO THE PARK AND THEN HAVING SOME OF THE LEGACY ITEMS THAT ARE THERE NOT LOOK AS NICE AND BRILLIANT AS THE NEW THINGS THAT WE'RE INSTALLING.
SO I ASKED THEM IF, IF YOU COULD DO ANYTHING IN THIS PARK THAT WOULD MAKE IT LOOK BETTER, WHAT WOULD IT BE? AND THEN THEY PULLED TOGETHER THIS LIST OF ITEMS. SO THIS IS NON BUDGETED.
THESE ARE NOT REQUIRED ITEMS. UM, SOME OF THEM, I THINK, AS WE GO THROUGH AND YOU'VE READ ABOUT THEM, OR IF YOU HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THEM ARE, ARE PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS, BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS MOSTLY ABOUT SPENDING MONEY ON IMPROVING THE FOUNTAIN, IMPROVING THE GAZEBO AND THE BILL TOWER AND THEN POWER WASHING EVERYTHING AND MAKING EVERYTHING NICE AND CLEAN AT THE VERY END OF THE PROJECT, UM, TO MAKE THE PROJECT JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY POP.
SO $43,000 TO REROOF THE GAZEBO.
YEAH, THAT'S THE GAZEBO AND THE, UM, AND THE BELL TOWER WITH THE METAL ROOF THAT MATCHES THE EXISTING CRUDE, UH, BUILDING AND THAT PRICE JOKE.
NO, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE QUOTE.
SO THE, THE METAL ROOFING STUFF, THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP CONSIDERABLY.
SO, BUT THESE ARE THE ITEMS I WANT TO COUNSEL TO SEE.
AND I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW LIKE WHAT THINGS YOU'RE INTERESTED IN PURSUING.
YOU CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO GET ADDITIONAL QUOTES ON CERTAIN THINGS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT THESE WERE THE ITEMS THAT THEY PULLED TOGETHER, THE LIST AND THEN THEIR PRICES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
SO ANY, UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I GUESS MY, MY COMMENT IS ON THE ROOF.
IT'S JUST SEEMS LIKE A REALLY HIGH PRICE.
UH, EVEN WITH THE PRICES HAVE GONE UP, IT JUST SEEMS REALLY, REALLY PRICEY.
IT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT USING COPPER, WE'RE USING METAL, IT'S A SEAMLESS METAL, BUT, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A REALLY HIGH PRICE.
AND, AND FRANKLY, I THINK WHAT THEY TOLD ME WAS IS THAT IT DOUBLED FROM THE, FROM THE TIME WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY DID THIS TO THE TIME THAT THEY HAD EVERYTHING PULLED TOGETHER, THEIR, THEIR ROOF CONTRACTOR THAT THEY GOT THE ORIGINAL BID FROM CAME BACK AND SAID, MATERIAL PROCESSOR ARE SO HIGH.
SO I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S EXACTLY HOW IT WENT DOWN.
SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY LIKE A $15,000 TO POWER WASH THE WINDOWS.
UM, THESE ARE THE QUOTES, THESE ARE ABSURD PRICES, JAMES.
OKAY, WELL, AGAIN, I DIDN'T PREPARE THESE.
AND I SAW THAT PARENT IN A BIT OF AN EMOTIONAL REACTION RIGHT NOW.
WELL, NO, IN ALL FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE PROCESSES THAT THEY QUOTED OUT.
I BELIEVE WHENEVER YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S ACTUALLY POWER WASHING EVERYTHING, NOT JUST THE WINDOWS, BUT ALL OF THE SAME.
SO YOU HAVE THE DEEP CLEANING ITEM FOR THE FOUNTAIN AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SEALANT FOR THE FOUNTAIN AND THEN THE AUTO AUTO FILL WATER LEVELER IN THE WIND CONTROL AND THOSE THINGS FOR THE FOUNTAIN.
SO AGAIN, THESE ARE, NONE OF THESE ARE REQUIRED TO BE DONE.
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YEAH.THE OTHER PRICES LOOKED PRETTY GOOD.
UH, I'M JUST, I THINK THE METAL IS THE ONE OF REALLY GOT ME SHOCKED.
I KNOW THE PRESSURE WASHINGTON'S GOING TO BE.
IS THAT GOING TO BE THE BUILDING? THE IT'S GOT IT.
SO THERE'S, THERE SHOULD BE A SECOND ATTACHMENT THAT YOU GOT THAT HAS A DESCRIPTION OF EVERYTHING THAT'S INCLUDED.
SO IF I GO TO THE WASHING IT'S AFTER ALL, THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS.
AFTER ALL THE PARK WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED, THIS PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO WASH DOWN THE BUILDING AND SIDEWALKS, BRING THE HISTORICAL BUILDING.
AND OH, BEING THAT IT'S HISTORICAL BUILDING IN SIDEWALKS, THE PSI OF THE WATER IS REGULATED TO NOT EXCEED 300 PSI.
UH, SO IT'S A LOT OF LABOR IS WHAT IT IS.
THIS INCLUDES, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE WASHING THE ROOF.
THE SIDEWALKS AROUND THE PARK ARE INCLUDED TO REMOVE THE DIRT FROM POST-CONSTRUCTION AND THE REASON THE PSI LEVEL.
SO LOWS THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, UH, KEEPS, UH, THE CONTRACTORS TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T, UM, DESTROY OR, UH, MESS UP ANY OF YOUR HISTORICAL MARKER.
IT'S SOME OF THE PITTING AND, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STEP OUT THERE.
I KNOW YOU LIKE TO DO SITE VISITS, BUT HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT THE HISTORIC SIDEWALK LOOKS WITH? THE RIBBON, JUST FROM THE STREET? IT ACTUALLY TURNED OUT, WELL, WE HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO SAID IT WAS GOING TO TURN OUT GOOD.
IT TURNED OUT A LOT NICER THAN I THOUGHT I WAS, UH, I WAS NERVOUS, BUT I'VE, I'VE HEARD THAT IT'S CERTAINLY NOTICEABLE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S NOT CLEAN.
I THINK SOME OF THESE PROCESSES ARE CRAZY, BUT I WANT TO SEE THIS PARK SPARKLE WHEN IT'S DONE CUSTOM FOR SCALE.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY NICE IF TF HARPER TO GIVE US THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE INFORMATION WHERE WE CAN TAKE IT AND SAY, OKAY, WELL WE WANT STAFF TO DO THIS OR WE WANT, SO THIS WAS, THIS IS JUST LETTING US KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, A GOLD STANDARD LOOKS LIKE.
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GO GET SOME QUOTES, UM, WITH THE REALLY HIGH PRICE ITEMS. UM, CAUSE MAYBE THEY, THEY MAYBE THEY'RE THE CHEAPEST, I DON'T KNOW.
AND THEN MAYBE WE'LL DECIDE AFTER LOOKING AT ALL THREE THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY WANT TO DO IT.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF GO DOWN THE LIST AND GET SOME QUOTES FROM, FROM OTHER PLACES, UM, THAT'LL GIVE US SOMETHING TO COMPARE IT TO.
AND THEN, AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE CAN DECIDE, DO WE REALLY WANT TO SPEND $42,000, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE METAL ROOF? AND MAYBE WE DO.
I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT THE ONLY ITEM THAT Y'ALL WANT ME TO GO GET COMPETITIVE BIDS ON FOR, FOR ME, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE.
CAUSE UH, THE PRESSURE WASHINGTON, I KNOW THE, UH, LABOR THAT'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE LOW PSI.
SO I THINK ACTUALLY THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD PRICE.
UH, EVERYTHING ELSE I'M LOOKING AT, IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.
UM, I, I GUESS THE BELL TOWER AND THE CREW BUILDING ARE THE ONLY CHEESE THAT GOT ME A LITTLE STUMP, UH, CAUSE IT JUST SEEMS HIGH ON THOSE TWO PRO ON THE ROOFING ON THE ROOF HERE BECAUSE THE REPAINTING IS ALSO IN THERE AND THAT'S LIKE 20 GRAND AND THAT'S REPAINTING THE, YOU KNOW, THE INTERIOR AND THEN OF COURSE ALL THE EXTERIOR STUFF TOO.
SO THE REPAINTING IS PART OF THE ROOF PRICE.
NO, THAT'S THE SECOND ITEM BELOW, CORRECT? REPAINT THE WHITE PORTIONS OF THE GAZEBO.
SO I WOULD SAY FROM THE 15,000 TO THE 19,000 AND THEN THE 14,001, NOT ANYTHING THAT'S I GUESS OVER 10, I WOULD SEE IF YOU COULD GET AT LEAST A QUOTE.
WELL, SO I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO POINT OUT OUR PURCHASING POLICIES, RIGHT? SO 15,000 IS THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE CAN DO, I THINK WITHOUT ACTUALLY GOING TO COMPETITIVE BID.
AND THEN I THINK ANYTHING 15 TO 50 REQUIRES ADDITIONAL BIDDING TYPE STUFF AND 50 AND ABOVE IS LIKE SEALED TO COMPETITIVE BID.
CAN WE PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER AND SEE, I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO DO IT THE CHEAPEST WAY POSSIBLE MAKENA OBVIOUSLY CALL A ROOFING GUY AND SAY, HEY, WHAT WOULD IT COST THE REROOF THIS WITH THE METAL ROOF THAT MATCHES.
UM, THAT'S JUST WOULD BE AN UNOFFICIAL QUOTE, BUT WHEN, IF WE ACTUALLY DECIDE, WE WANT TO DO IT AND IT'S OVER THE CERTAIN THRESHOLDS, THEN THERE ARE PROCEDURES WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO WITH TF HARPER BECAUSE THEY'RE COVERED UNDERNEATH THE, THE STATE BY BOARD WITH TFR PREVENT.
MY LAST THING IS I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT THIS AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT TINA HARPER HAS ALREADY WORKED WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, DONE THE APPROVALS.
I'M THINKING IF WE BID THIS OUT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START THAT PROCESS OVER AND I'D HATE TO EVEN GO DOWN THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M THINKING, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE GAZEBO OR THE BELT TOWER PROPER ARE LISTED ON THE HISTORIC REGISTER.
I DON'T THINK, UM, THE BELL CERTAINLY IS AND THE CRAIG CENTER CERTAINLY IS IN THE SIDEWALK CERTAINLY FROM, SO I, I I'LL TELL YOU THAT I DID GET FEEDBACK FROM THE TOWER AND WE'VE GOTTA BE VERY CAREFUL AND TIFF HARPER HAS ALREADY GOT THE APPROVAL.
SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THE TOWER IN THERE FOR THAT.
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I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOT THE HISTORICAL.THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE I WOULD PROBABLY TAKE OUT TO BID TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING BETTER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DOWNGRADE THE QUALITY OF WORK EITHER.
I WANT THE GOLD STANDARD AS WE ALWAYS PREACH, BUT I THINK THE BELL TOWER, WE NEED TO JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT BECAUSE, UM, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE APPROVAL FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH.
AND I THINK THE PRESSURE WASHING AS WELL, I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE THEY HAVE TO DO BECAUSE OF, UH, THE RELATIONSHIP THEY HAVE WITH THE, AND THE UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
SO DEFINITELY I MAY REMARK, MAYBE I SHOULD ALSO ASK, IS THERE ANYTHING ON THIS LIST THAT'S MISSING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT TO ADD THAT DIDN'T GET ADDED? NO, I MEAN MAYBE BETTER.
I'M KIND OF WITH COUNSELOR RIZZO.
I ALMOST JUST WANT TO SAY YES, WE CAN'T JUST KEEP POSTPONING EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT WE JUST GOT TO VOTE.
IT WE'VE GOT TO VOTE ON IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN SAVE A LITTLE MONEY BY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, COMPOSITION SHINGLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'D BE A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT FOR CITIZENS.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO YEAH, NO, NO.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS ALL FINISHED BY NOVEMBER.
THIS IS, CAUSE THIS IS AT THE VERY END, RIGHT? THIS, I MEAN, THIS WILL EFFECTIVELY WILL BE PROBABLY WOVEN IN.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE, THEY'RE GOING TO FINISH EVERYTHING AND THEN GO DO ALL THIS STUFF.
SOME OF THESE ITEMS CAN'T BE DONE UNTIL THE VERY END BECAUSE THEY'RE CLEANUP ITEMS. SO THEY'LL EFFECTIVELY BE ADDED TO THE SCHEDULE.
AND THE OTHER THING WAS, I WAS WHEN I WAS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT WITH YOU WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE THE PROCESSES IN PLACE FOR MAINTENANCE, LIKE POWER WASHING SIDEWALKS.
IT'S A HALF DAY FOR ONE EMPLOYEE WITH THE TRUCK LIKE THEY'RE DOING ON GREG DRIVE RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE NOT SPENDING $15,000 TO POWER WASH OFF THE PAINT.
YOU KNOW, THE OLD PAIN ON GREG DRIVE.
WE'VE GOT A GUY OUT THERE WHO'S ABLE TO GET IT DONE.
WE'RE NOT SPENDING ANYTHING OTHER THAN RESOURCES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.
SO I'M JUST, I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE MAINTENANCE TO GET IT TO A STANDARD AND THEN TO KEEP IT THERE, NOT TO TACK ON 112,000 TO THE PROJECT, I CAN SEE IT ON THE ROOF BECAUSE THE ROOF NEEDS IT.
THE PAINT, I GUESS, I GUESS PAINTING THE D THE GAZEBO IS $15,000.
I MEAN, NONE OF THESE PRICES EVEN COMPUTE WITH ME, FRANKLY, BUT, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW.
I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, UH, KEEPING THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, HAVING ALL THE ROOF LINES MATCH UP.
I I'M WORRIED THAT IF WE, UH, DON'T GO WITH TF HARPER, THAT WE'LL HAVE TO GO DOWN THE PROCESS OF HAVING TO REAPPLY WITH DARKO COMMISSION, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE USING A DIFFERENT COMPANY.
UH, AND I WON'T SEE IT MOVE FORWARD.
SO AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME TO SAY, UH, SAY THIS, I THINK WE NEED JUST, JUST TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS A RUBBER SECOND MOVE BY CUSTOMER RIZZO.
SECOND ABOUT CUSTOMER TOBY, A SENIOR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
YEAH, NOT REALLY CRAZY ABOUT THE PRICES, BUT THIS IS ABOUT FINISHING THE PROJECT AND, AND NOT HAVING TO START THE PROCESS OVER ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO THREE WE DID 19.
[19.
Discussion regarding proposed code changes to Sec. 11-176, Sec. 11-177, Sec. 41-136, Sec. 53-143 and provide direction to staff to pursue code amendments. ~ Will Atkinson, City Planner
]ITEM NUMBER 19 DISCUSSION REGARDING PROPOSED CODE CHANGES TO SECTION 11 DASH 1 76, 1 77 41 DASH 1 36 53 DASH 1 43.PROVIDE DIRECTION TO STAFF PURSUIT, CODE AMENDMENTS, MR. ATKINSON, UH, WILKINSON ATKINSON CITY PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.
UH, I AM ASKING FOR DIRECTION FROM Y'ALL ON THESE GOOD AMENDMENTS AS STATED.
UM, THESE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE IMPORTANT TO BE CONSIDERED.
AND, UM, THEN I'LL KIND OF SMOOTH DEVELOPMENT PROCESSES.
AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE BACK OF MATERIAL.
UM, THERE MIGHT BE A SECTION FOR, UH, FOR PARKING RATIOS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY, I'M ASKING YOU NOT TO CONSIDER THAT TONIGHT, CAUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE MORE FLESHED OUT, BUT ALL THE OTHER ONES.
SO LET ME START WITH A SECTION 41 DASH 1 36, LOTS.
UH, THIS CREATES A SUBSECTION G FOR UTILITY LOTS.
OUR CURRENT ZONING CODE DOES NOT GIVE DISCRETION TO STAFF TO ALLOW SUBSTANDARD SIZED, LOTS FOR PURPOSES TO EXPLAIN TO THEIR LIKE FOR POCKET PARKS, EASEMENTS, UM, MAILBOX, LOTS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
THINGS THAT CAN BE THAT ARE APPROPRIATE IN SUBDIVISIONS, BUT WE JUST CAN'T DO IT.
UM, AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT TO PUT A MAILBOX ON OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
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SO THIS ALLOWS THAT, AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND SAY, HEY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A GAS LINE.THESE WOULD COME THROUGH HERE.
IT ALSO HELPS WITH, UH, LOOPING UTILITY LINES THROUGH CUL-DE-SACS THAT PUBLIC WORKS LIKES.
UM, DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT.
WE JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK AND IF WE CAN BRING IT BACK AS AN ACTUAL AMENDMENT.
OH, IS THIS ABOUT THE WHOLE THING OR ARE YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT LOSS NOW? JUST THE UTILITY LAW ONE.
THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FUN GIVEN THE HISTORY OF, UH, OF GARAGES IN KYLE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS AS YOU INTENSIFY DENSITY AND GET SMALLER, SMALLER LOTS, IT GETS HARDER AND HARDER TO PUT A 480 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE ON A PROJECT JUST FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT.
SO THIS, IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH IT, UM, WE HAVE REMOVED THE REQUIREMENT FOR GARAGES, BUT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO IT, BUT WE ALSO PUT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTIVE, UM, UH, WORDING IN THERE FOR, UM, WHERE THEY CAN PUT THE GARAGE AND TRYING TO FOCUS IT ON REAR LOADED AT THE SAME TIME.
IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, THAT'S FINE.
UM, WE CAN AMEND IT OR YOU CAN SAY NO TO THE ENTIRE TOWN HALL THING, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO BIG PROJECTS COMING FORWARD, A TOWN HOMES, AND THEY'RE HAVING A BIT OF HEARTBURN TRYING TO MAKE THEIR PROJECTS WORK WITH THE 480 SQUARE FOOT GARAGES.
SO, SO FOR THE LARGER, LIKE 80 FOOT LOTS, THE 65 FOOT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED THOUGHTS, THE 50 FOOTERS, THE, EVEN THE RNA ONES.
WE'RE NOT, WE HAVEN'T, WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THOSE.
THIS IS JUST FOR TOWNHOMES TOWNHOMES.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE FOOD TRUCK LOT, THE FOOD TRUCK, COMPLETE AMENDMENT.
SO, UM, WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE FOOD TRUCKS MORE PALATABLE IN KYLE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECTION AT ALL, BUT I WENT, I WENT THROUGH IT UNDER THE TEMPORARY FOOD VENDOR SECTION AND THE, UM, THE, UM, THE FOOD TRUCK AREAS, THE DEVELOPMENT LOSS, YOU CAN BUILD AN ACTUAL FOOD TRUCK PARK ON TO SEE HOW OUR CODE MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR, UM, INCUBATORS TO MOVE FROM FOOD TRUCKS UP TO RESTAURANTS AND CHANGE IT TO MAKE IT MORE AMENABLE IT'S FOR, TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO WANT TO DEVELOP.
IT STARTED OUT AT A SMALLER SCALE.
UM, ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS? I'VE GOT SEVERAL THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE.
FIRST OF ALL, IT LOOKED LIKE THEY HAD TO REAPPLY FOR A PERMIT EVERY THREE MONTHS, WHICH I THINK IS ASKING A LOT FROM THEM.
UM, I THINK I'D BE MORE AMENABLE TO ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
I MEAN, EVERY SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR.
UH, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, UH, I KNOW IN OUR ZONE WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THEM HAVING TO HAVE RESTROOM ACCESS, BUT IF IT'S, I CAN UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS A SIT DOWN TO GO SIT DOWN AREA.
BUT IF IT'S TO GO, I REALLY DON'T THINK WE, WE NEED TO BE THERE.
AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THOUGHTS ON IT, BUT I JUST, I THINK MAKING THAT A REQUIREMENT, UM, TO GO FOOD TRUCK, UH, I DUNNO, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ASKING FOR A LOT.
CAUSE NOW YOU'RE, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RESTRICTING FOOD TRUCKS BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A PARTNERSHIP WITH A BUSINESS OR SOMETHING.
HOW MANY BUSINESSES WANT A FOOD TRUCK NEAR THEM? YOU KNOW? SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE.
WHAT ARE THE FOOD TRUCK DOESN'T HAVE A BATHROOM? I MEAN, NOT JUST, THAT'S NOT JUST FOR THE CUSTOMER, IT'S ALSO FOR THE RIGHT, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO WORK THERE AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A RESTROOM, WHAT DO THEY DO? IT'S NOT THAT MY POINT IS, IS NOT JUST FOR THE CUSTOMERS.
SO, UM, MY THING IS THAT MORE THAN ONE FOOD BUCK, TRUCK WORKER AND THEY ROTATE AND THEY GO DOWN THE STREET OR SOMETHING, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I KNOW IT WAS JUST TOUGH, UH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, NOW YOU'RE PUTTING A BURDEN ON A FOOD TRUCK.
I MEAN, IS IT REALLY EQUITABLE FOR YOU TO HAVE TO RENT OUT SPACE, UH, FOR A BATHROOM AND YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE COST OF THE FOOD TRUCK, UH, CAUSE FOOD TRUCKS ARE NOT CHEAP.
MOST OF THESE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AND UM, YOU KNOW, GOTTA MAINTAIN THE WATER, EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO THEY'VE GOT THEIR SINKS, EVERYTHING ELSE, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE BATHROOMS. UH, I GUESS YOU COULD DO A PORT-A-POTTY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT POTTER POTTIES ALL THROUGH THE CITY OF KYLE.
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THING I WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW.WE GOT TO, I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT WE COULD FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM THERE SOMEWHERE.
WELL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO IN AUSTIN? I DON'T, TO BE HONEST, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SOLO IN AUSTIN.
I KNOW THERE'S A BIG FOOD TRUCK LOT AND THEY USE PORT-A-POTTIES, THAT'S A WRITE OFF OF CONGRESS DURING THEIR, DURING ALL THEIR NICE DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE DOING.
SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THEY'RE DOING PORT-A-POTTIES AND THAT'S, UH, YOU'VE GOT BEAUTIFUL, BUT DEVELOPMENT COMING UP AND YOU GOT THESE FOOD TRUCKS IN THE CENTER WITH PORT-A-POTTIES.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN AUSTIN.
SO IN SOME CASES THEY ARE, BUT THEY'RE THE PICNIC ON BARTON SPRINGS IS A FOOD TRAILER PARK.
UH, THAT'S VERY POPULAR, UH, RIGHT THERE BY ZOCOR.
THERE IS A STRUCTURE, UH, FOR BATHROOMS RIGHT THERE AT THE FOOD TRAILER PARK.
AND I THINK THERE ARE ALSO PORTA-POTTIES, BUT, UH, THERE'S THOSE BATHROOMS THERE AS WELL.
SO I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.
WHATEVER WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD A FOOD TRUCK COURT.
THERE IS AN EXPECTATION AND WE DIDN'T CHANGE IT IN THE CODE WHERE THEY HAVE TO BUILD A PERMANENT RESTROOM FACILITY.
UM, I'LL, WE'LL DO SOME MORE THINKING IN SOME RESEARCH ON THE, ON THE, UH, TEMPORARY.
I CAN SEE A FOOD TRUCK HAVING THAT KIND OF RESOURCE DO, UH, BUILD BATHROOMS LIKE THAT.
IT JUST, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S EXPENSIVE.
I MEAN, YOU'RE PUTTING UP A BUILDING NOW, JUST GO AHEAD AND RENT A BUILDING COUNCIL MEMBER RESULT.
IF I MIGHT THAT'S FOR LIKE, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS WHENEVER THERE ARE MULTIPLE FOOD TRUCKS IN A COURT WHERE YOU, MAYBE YOU HAVE FOUR OR FIVE FOOD TRUCKS, AND THEN THEY SHARE ONE COMMON BUILT RESTROOM ONSITE, NOT, NOT ONE TRUCK HAVING TO BUILD A RESTROOM FOR THEMSELVES.
AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASON THAT WE, WHENEVER WE ORIGINALLY WROTE THIS CODE, WE WROTE IT TO BE RESTRICTIVE.
THERE WAS ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY POINTING OUT THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID DO THAT GOES TO YOUR POINT WAS TO ALLOW THE FOOD TRUCKS TO COHABITATE, IF YOU WILL, WITH ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT WAS ZONED RS OR CBD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN HAVE AN AGREEMENT FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR, UH, PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE THE RESTROOMS OF THE EXISTING BUSINESS.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE DID IT ON A ONE TRUCK BASIS.
BUT IF, IF IT, IF THERE'S A BUSINESS THAT IS DRAWING PEOPLE TO IT AND IT'S STATIONARY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN HEALTH CODE COMPLIANT, THINGS THAT, THAT KIND OF START TO MUCK UP HOW FLEXIBLE WE CAN END UP BEING.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE PORTA-POTTIES PROBABLY IN AUSTIN.
UH, I'VE SEEN THE TRAILERS THAT ARE LIKE THE NICE AIR CONDITIONED RESTROOMS, UH, HAVE BEEN BROUGHT INTO, UH, SOME OF THE LOCATIONS.
AND THEN I'VE SEEN THE, THE, THE STICK BUILT OR CINDER BLOCK BUILT, UH, RESTROOMS THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR ADA, THE COMPLIANT, AND THOSE ARE USUALLY A CITY LED TO PROJECT.
SO THE CITY OR THE DISTRICT IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, BUILD THAT TO ENCOURAGE THE FOOD TRUCKS, TO COME TO THE AREA.
SO THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MAKING THE FOOD TRUCK DO IT.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY AN AREA IS BUILT AS A CITY AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO DO AS A CITY.
IF THAT'S GOING TO BRING US MORE, UH, OPTIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS MORE OPTIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, MORE PLACES FOR THEM TO EAT AND, AND TRY DIFFERENT THINGS.
I MEAN, I'VE, UM, I LOVE THE FOOD TRUCKS IN SOUTH AUSTIN.
UH, I'M, I'M, I'M EATING DIFFERENT KINDS OF FOODS FROM SOUTH AMERICA IS GREAT.
UH, THEY KNOW THAT BANANAS COULD BE, UH, SERVED IN DIFFERENT, UH, PALLETS.
LIKE THEY ARE, IT'S KIND OF CRAZY THE WAY THEY COOK THEM AND THE WAY THEY USE THEM WITH DIFFERENT FOODS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M ENJOYING THAT EXPERIENCE.
I, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT CAUSE YOU GET TIRED OF THAT SAME OLD, SAME OLD.
SO, UH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY WANT US TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THIS.
AND IF IT'S TRYING TO PUT A, A DISTRICT UP WHERE WE AS A CITY, ENCOURAGE IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN BUILDING A BATHROOM OR SOMETHING, UM, MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO.
UM, I DO HAVE KIND OF A CONCERN UNDER E WHEN THEY DISCUSS A VENDOR DENSE DENSITY.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A NUMBER PER SE, BUT I THINK THE PRACTICAL LIMITATIONS OF THE SITE LAYOUT THAT CA IS, IS REALLY VAGUE.
I THINK THAT MAY CAUSE SOME ISSUES.
AND I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE A LITTLE MORE DEFINED.
UM, YEAH, THAT WAS AN AREA WHERE I WAS LIKE, WELL, IS IT OKAY TO DO THIS OR THAT? I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE WHENEVER I'M THINKING OF PRACTICAL LIMITATIONS ON HABIT IN THE PARENTHESES THERE THAT YOU MAKE, MAYBE YOUR, YOUR DRIVE AISLE HAS TO BE 25 FEET WIDE FOR FIRE CODE.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA, RIGHT NOW, IT'S A MINIMUM OF FOUR PARKING SPACES FOR FOOD TRUCK IN A FOOD COURT.
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TO HAVE LANDSCAPING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY, UH, USES.UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BUILD A DETENTION POND OF SOME SORT OR SOME SORT OF DETENTION FEATURE IF THEY'RE ADDING IMPERVIOUS COVER.
SO IT MAY START WHITTLING DOWN WHERE THEY CAN PUT IT JUST FROM A PRACTICE STANDPOINT.
AND ALSO FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY SLOT THE TRUCKS IN JUST PULLING IN THERE.
SO, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
AND THEN MAYBE THE 12 UNITS BREAKERS FINE.
MAYBE WE CAN DO LIKE, NO MORE THAN 12 OR LIKE NO MORE THAN 10.
UM, THAT GIVES YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO UNDER, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS YOU A MAX, A NUMBER.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER BEEN ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S 12 AND NOT EVEN IN AUSTIN, 12 DIFFERENT VENDORS.
I THINK THE MOST I'VE SEEN IS LIKE FIVE.
UM, SO I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT TO TAKE OUT THE 12.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I THINK, MAYBE A SOLID, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE DEFINITE WOULD BE EASIER FOR THE VENDORS AND FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND, ARE YOU GOING TO QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE OR DIRECTION, OR DO WE WANT TO TAKE HIM TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ONE? I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA FOR YOU TO GO BACK AND KIND OF, I THINK WE JUST DISCUSSED TWO THINGS THAT MAYBE TO REVISE AND THEN BRING BACK.
ARE WE IN ANY RUSH TO DO THIS? IS THERE SOMETHING WAITING? UM, PROBABLY THE, THE, THE TOWNHOME, ONE'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE JUST FROM, CAUSE THERE'S BEEN TWO REASONS ZONING'S ON IT.
SO, UM, IF, IF THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY WRONG WITH OR ANYTHING THAT'S CONCERNED, YOU WOULD GET THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND NOTICE IT IN THE NEWSPAPER OR, AND ALSO THE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION ONE AS WELL.
THE UTILITY LAW MAY, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE ITEMS EXCLUDING, UH, THE, UH, UPGRADES ON THE, UM, FOOD TRUCKS AND, UH, INSTRUCTING STAFF TO, UH, BRING THAT BACK, UH, FOR A LATER DATE FOR A VOTE MOVED BY CUSTOMER RIZZO SECOND AND BAD CUSTOMER FLOORS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SO WE'RE JUST VOTING TO APPROVE THE UTILITY LOTS AND TOWNHOME UPDATES.
AND ALL WE GOT TO NOTICE THEM AS APPROPRIATELY.
AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND YOU TAKE ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.
YES, WE ARE THE FINAL THREE ONE, OR WE MISS ONE WE'RE ON 21 TO 22.
NEXT UP IS, YOU KNOW, ITEM NUMBER
[22.
A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas accepting the petition for annexation of 2.548 acres of land, more or less, located at 4750 Dacy Lane, in Hays County, Texas; setting annexation schedule; providing for open meetings and other related matters. (ANNX-21-0011) ~ Will Atkinson, City Planner
]22 RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS ACCEPTING THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION OF 2.5, FOUR, EIGHT ACRES OF LAND, MORE OR LESS LOCATED AT 47 50 DACEY LANE.
UH, THIS ONE IS REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT OR ACTUALLY WITHDRAWAL UNBELIEF.
NO, NO, THAT'S THAT'S THE, THE CARE WAY, RIGHT? IS THAT NOT THIS ONE? NO, NO, THIS ONE THAT'S THE NEXT ONE.
SO THIS IS, UH, THE FIRST STEP IN, UH, BEGINNING OF THE ANNEXATION PROCESS OF, UH, TWO AND A HALF, APPROXIMATELY TWO AND A THICKER, UH, STRIPPING ANNEXATION, UM, WITH THE SHADOW CREEK MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT.
UM, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT ALL CITY BOUNDARIES ARE CONTIGUOUS.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS TO EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO ANNEX SOME PROPERTY, UH, NORTHERN SHADOW CREEK, AND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO DO THIS.
AND SO, UM, THE CITY AND THE LEGAL TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE MUD TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS, THEY ARE MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM.
WHAT NUMBER WAS THAT? OKAY, 20, 22, PLEASE SAY AGAIN, MOVE BY CUSTOMER IS A SECOND OF MY CUSTOMER TOBY'S IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[23.
A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas accepting the petition for annexation of 37.99 acres, more or less, of land located in Hays County, Texas; setting annexation schedule; providing for open meetings and other related matters. (ANNX-21-0012) ~ Will Atkinson, City Planner
]NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23 RESOLUTION OF CITY OF CONTEXT IS ACCEPTING THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION OF 37.99 ACRES, MORE OR LESS.UH, THIS IS THE CARE WISE AND THEY DID ASK THE TO POSTPONE SINCE WE TAKE HIM BACK TO START.
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ALL RIGHT.UH, DID WE NEED A POSTPONEMENT FOR A DATE? CERTAIN ARE THEY ACTUALLY WANTING TO JUST WITHDRAW? UH, PAIGE, DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS ON THAT BY CHANCE? WE SHOULD NOT WAIT.
UH, WE NEED SOME TIME TO WORK OUT SOME AGREEMENTS WITH THEM.
I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG THAT WILL TAKE.
UM, SO IF, IS IT, IF WE CAN POSTPONE UNTIL THE AGREEMENTS ARE ALREADY FOR APPROVAL, THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23 UNTIL AGREEMENTS ARE ALREADY TO BE BROUGHT BACK BY STAFF.
SECOND, MOVE BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER TOBY, ASSIST THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
YOUR REASON WHY WE DON'T JUST, I WAS JUST GOING TO KEEP BRINGING IT BACK UNTIL THEY'RE READY.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WE TOLD THEM NO, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT, SO THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ANNEXED.
NOW THAT WE'VE TOLD THEM THEY CAN'T DO SO WHY ARE WE GOING TO KEEP US ON HERE? NO, THEY DID NOT ASK.
WE COULD TELL THEM NO, WE COULD VOTE AND SAY NO AND THEN BE DONE WITH IT AND THEN COME BACK AND TRY IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WITH AN AGENDA WITH 27 ITEMS AND LAST WEEK WAS 40.
LIKE WHY DO WE KEEP STUFF ON HERE THAT IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE? WELL, YOU'VE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO POSTPONE FOUR OUT OF THE LAST FIVE ITEMS WITH AN END DATE.
WELL, THIS ONE HAS AN END DATE.
IT'S JUST NOT SUBJECT TO A DATE.
CERTAIN IT ALLOWS FOR STAFF TO BRING IT BACK AT A TIME WHEN AN AGREEMENT, RIGHT, THE HOLE IS A HOLDUP OURS, OR IS IT THEIRS? SO THE HOLDUP IS OURS.
I CAN UNDERSTAND POSTPONING AT THE HOLDUP IS ON THEIR BEHALF BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T DONE FIGURED OUT WHAT THEY WANTED AND THE AGREEMENTS THEN WHY CAN'T THEY JUST FIGURE THAT OUT AND THEN BRING IT? I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CITY WANTS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE, IT'S FINE.
WE HAVE, THERE'S A MOTION, A SECOND, THIRD DISCUSSION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[25. Discussion and possible action on implementing a process to create a Human Services Board/Commission to review, advise, and create an equitable and fair process for allocating grant funding to non-profits organizations serving in the Kyle area. ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]
[26. Evaluation of expectations, from City Council and City Manager, when presenting direction of council, to staff. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
[27. Discussion and possible action to restructure official City task forces. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
UP IS GOING TO BE AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 25 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO, UH, ON IMPLEMENTING PROCESS TO CREATE HUMAN SERVICES, BOARD COMMISSION, TO REVIEW, ADVISE AND CREATE AN EQUITABLE AND FAIR PROCESS FOR ALLOCATING GRANT FUNDING TO NON-PROFITS ORGANIZATIONS, SERVING IN THE COWL AREA, CUSTOMER RAILS.SO, UM, ESSENTIALLY ESSENTIALLY FIND MYSELF HAVING DEJA VU AND IN THE SAME PLACE I WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
UM, THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE NOT GOING TO BE SHORT DISCUSSIONS.
WE STILL HAVE FOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS TO GO AND USE A LOT OF MENTAL POWER TO.
I DON'T WANT TO PRESENT THIS ITEM AT, AT MIDNIGHT AND, AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EARLIER.
AND THEN IN THE MEETING, WE SPENT AN HOUR ON ONE AGENDA ITEM EARLIER ALONE.
AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, POSTPONE UNTIL THE 1ST OF OCTOBER AGENDA MEETING AGENDA ITEMS, 25, 26 AND 27, OR, UH, I'LL FIND I'LL JUST DO MINE, UH, AGENDA ITEM 25 SECOND, MOVED BY KESTRA ELLISON, SECONDED BY COUNSELOR FORCE, KALE THAT WE POSTPONED AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 TILL THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? IF WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS AS ONE OF THE FIRST FEES.
THAT'S ALL ACTION ITEM ON THE, ON THE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION.
I WANT THIS TO BE THE FIRST, THE VERY FIRST ONE.
IT POSSIBLE I'LL WAIT TO I'M OKAY.
WAITING AS LONG AS IT GETS TO IT.
THAT IS SOMETHING I REQUESTED REGARDING THE LAST THREE.
SO IF WE CAN AGREE THAT THE LAST THREE WILL BE THE FIRST THREE OR THE NEXT AGENDA I'M OKAY.
WAITING OF CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO CONSIDER FOR THIS ONE.
THE EMOTIONAL I AM IN MY EMOTIONS MAY, MAY I GO? GOTCHA.
I JUST WORRY THAT WE WOULD FIND HERSELF IN A SIMILAR SITUATION TO WHAT WE FOUND OURSELF IN THIS EVENING, WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING TO PRESENT.
WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE GOING TO BE LONG CONVERSATIONS AND WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE QUICK AND DEFINITELY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE TIMES OF THE PRESENTERS AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE.
UM, I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST WORRY THAT WE WOULD FIND OURSELVES IN THE EXACT SAME SITUATION THAT WE DO WITH EVERY SINGLE MEETING WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO SPEAK AND WHO GO FIRST.
AND THEN WE ALWAYS SAVE THE LONGER DISCUSSION ITEMS, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA.
SO IT, MY PERSONAL OPINION, I WOULD RATHER JUST SPEAK
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ON EVERYTHING NOW I, OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SPLIT IT UP.IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS MORE TAKES PRIORITY OVER, DO YOU KNOW IF ITEM 25 TAKES PRIORITY OVER I'M 26 OR 27, BUT SPLIT IT UP THAT WAY AND MAYBE NOT LOAD IT ALL ON ONE AGENDA.
I I'M I'M OPEN, BUT I REALLY JUST WOULD WORRY ABOUT PUSHING IT BACK AND TRYING TO SQUEEZE IT IN FIRST ON ANY AGENDA FOR ANY MEETING.
WELL, I WILL SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE AGENDA ITEMS MATTER TO PEOPLE AS WELL.
AND I GET PRESENTERS HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND WE'VE GOT TO WORK WITH THEM AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT THESE THINGS MATTER TO OUR RESIDENTS.
AND SO WE WE'VE BEEN POSTPONING THESE ITEMS THEY'VE BEEN PUT AT THE END CONVERSATIONS AFTER MIDNIGHT AND MAKING THESE DECISIONS.
I WANT TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS UPFRONT, WHERE WE ARE ALL FOCUSED IN, IN HERE AND HAVING A COGNITIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE THINGS, BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS FOR A REASON BECAUSE THEY ARE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS.
AND I'M JUST, I'M TIRED OF HAVING THESE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS AFTER MIDNIGHT, ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, WE STILL HAVE FOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS TO GO.
SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT AS WELL.
AND THE DEVELOPER PRESENTATIONS, WE WE'VE WE'VE PUT THEM BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE CONSTANTLY PUT THEM BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND I'M TIRED OF PUTTING INTO DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS AHEAD OF THINGS THAT OUR RESIDENTS CARE ABOUT AND OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND THEIR, THEIR INTEREST AS WELL.
AND I, I WOULD, I AGREE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THESE AS COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS SAID THESE THREE ITEMS OFF THE GATE CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION AND HECK, UH, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED AND, AND AGENDA ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PLACED ON THERE.
MAYBE WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRATEGIC ABOUT THAT.
WE KNOW ONCE WE GET OVER 25 AGENDA ITEMS, IT'S GOING TO GO LATE.
AND I JUST WANT TO HAVE A SINCERE, HONEST CONVERSATION AT THE TOP OF THE MEETING ABOUT THESE THINGS, RATHER THAN LATE INTO THE HOUR WHERE WE'RE ALL TIRED STAFF HAS BEEN HERE FOR 14, 15 HOURS.
PROBABLY MANY OF US HAVE HAD LONG DAYS AT WORK TOO.
AND COMING HERE, THE PUBLIC DESERVES THAT, THAT TIME AND THAT ATTENTION AS WELL, MAYBE WHEN THEY MAKE THE AGENDA, THEY COULD TAKE HIM UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF TRAVIS WANTS TO TALK ABOUT, UM, MAYOR MITCHELL, SORRY, WANTS TO TALK ABOUT HIS, HIS AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'M WITH DEX ON THIS.
I FEEL LIKE IT ALL DESERVES AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF, UM, COGNITIVE THINKING AND DISCUSSION.
AND AGAIN, MAYBE WHEN WE CREATE THIS AGENDA OR THE NEXT AGENDA IS CREATED BETWEEN SCOTT AND OUR MAYOR, THAT THEY CAN TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
WHEN I SAY THIS, I MEAN THE LENGTH OF THESE THREE, UH, WHEN THEY CREATE THE OTHER AGENDA.
AND SO WE DON'T RUN 27 DEEP 28 ACTUALLY.
UM, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IF WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS, IF WE DON'T, THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP POSTPONING OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM AT MIDNIGHT, WHICH TO ME DOES NOT SHOW TRUE EFFORT IN TRYING TO, UM, CONFRONT THESE ISSUES.
IT'S MOTION IS SECOND TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT? UM, I ADMITTED MY EMOTION TO INCLUDE AGENDA ITEMS. TWIGGING SIX AND 27 WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THEY ARE AT THE BEGINNING OF CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION OF THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER, ALL OF A SUDDEN, I BELIEVE YOU MEAN 25 AND 26.
DO YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR AGENDA ITEM CONVERSATION HERE TONIGHT? ME? YES.
WELL, I THINK THE, I THINK THE FIRST ITEM THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, UH, IS RELEVANT, UH, UH, TO BE HAD AT THE FRONT.
WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE IT MORE AT THE BEGINNING.
THE REASON IT DIDN'T THAT I DIDN'T PUT IT ABOVE SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS IS BECAUSE, UM, I FELT LIKE THE, THE, UH, THERE WAS MORE TIME BECAUSE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EVEN BUDGETED.
SO EVENTUALLY WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THAT ITEM.
UH, IT, IT, IT DEFINITELY WAS ONE THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED FOR US TO HAVE DISCUSSED AHEAD OF TIME.
THE LAST TWO ITEMS ARE, UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT AHEAD OF OTHER, UH, BUSINESS OF THE CITY PERSONALLY, BUT I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
AND I AGREE THAT 25 AND 27 COULDN'T, YOU'RE NOT DOING, YOU'RE NOT DOING STAFF ANY FAVORS BY SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ONE FIRST
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AND HASH THIS OUT FOR A COUPLE HOURS AND, AND DISCUSS EMAILS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS, AND THEN PUT ALL THESE OTHER ITEMS. ALL YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE TAKING THE AUDIENCE AND TELLING THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO ALL SIT AND WAIT WHILE WE DISCUSS INTERNAL ISSUES, UH, AND THEN PUT THOSE ITEMS TO THE, TO THE BACK.SO IT'S JUST NEVER BEEN THE WAY I'VE APPROACHED SETTING THE AGENDA.
AGAIN, I'M SEPARATING YOUR ITEM FROM THE LAST TWO ITEMS, WHICH I BELIEVE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, DON'T, DON'T DO BEST, I THINK WOULD PROBABLY BE, UH, A LITTLE BIT TEMPTED TO GET, YOU KNOW, GRAND SANDY WITH A BIG AUDIENCE, TRYING TO TRY TO MAKE POINTS IN SCORE, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THAT WAY.
SO I'VE JUST NEVER BEEN, UH, SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO PUT CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS AT THE FRONT WHEN THEY'RE COUNCIL SPONSORED AND THEIR COUNCIL POINTED.
SO I'M JUST, I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
I ALSO, FOR SURE, I FEEL THAT YOUR, YOUR AGENDA ITEM IS JUST AS IMPORTANT MAYOR AND THAT'S THAT'S.
MY WHOLE REASONING IS BECAUSE ALL THREE OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT, INCLUDING YOURS.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, UH, ABOUT YOUR, YOUR AGENDA ITEM.
AND SO, UH, AGAIN, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND TIME GOING AROUND ON THIS AND NOT FOR THE RECORD.
I DID MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COME WITH A NICE, THE LAST MEETING THE FOLLOWING DAY, BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THE PERSONS THAT WOULD SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO HAVE THESE EXTRA MEETINGS.
UH, AND I FELL TO THAT AND I APOLOGIZED TO THE RESIDENTS IN THE DIOCESE FOR NOT ARRIVING THE FOLLOWING DAY.
I TAKE THAT OWNERSHIP AND THAT ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS RIGHT HERE, I FEEL THAT ALL THREE, INCLUDING YOURS, MAYOR MITCHELL IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN TACKLE THESE AND GET THESE DISCUSSIONS DONE, I THINK WE CAN FINALLY PUT THIS TO REST AND WE CAN MOVE ON WITH BUSINESS.
THE, THE, UM, THE MOTION, UH, IS TO BRING ITEMS TO POSTPONE ITEMS 25, 26 AND 27 UNTIL THE NEXT TIME NEXT, REGULARLY SCHEDULED ENDING WITH THE I'M TRYING TO RESTATE IT AND TO HAVE THOSE THREE ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, AT THE TOP OFF OF FIRST OFF OF CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
[X. Executive Session]
UP EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5, 5, 1 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
DURING THIS MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5, 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING TOPICS PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 5, 5 1 0 7 1 WEST FM ONE 50 CCN, HOMESTEAD, EXEMPTIONS, AND OTHER TEXTS, FREEZES TAX RATE, FREEZES, AND EXEMPTIONS, NANCE BRADSHAW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND POSSIBLE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL ESTATE PURSUANT TO SECTION FIVE, FIVE, ONE.ZERO SEVEN, TWO TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, PROPERTY ACCUSE ACQUISITION, UH, ACTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.