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[I. Call Meeting to Order ]
GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.IT IS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 15TH, AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WHAT ALL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MITCHELL RIZZO, ELLISON FLORES, KALE HERE, BRADSHAW HERE, PARSLEY HERE.
[II. Approval of Minutes ]
NEXT APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 1ST, SECOND, AND SIXTH, THE REGULAR AND SPECIAL BY THE MAYOR.
SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM RESULTS ARE DISCUSSED AROUND THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council ]
NEXT UP CITIZEN COMMENTS PERIOD.AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS. PLEASE DO.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY.
SECRETARY HAVE THREE WHO HAVE, UH, REGISTERED SO FAR, UH, FIRST STEP IN STAFF, DEAN SCENARIO.
I LIVE AT 2, 2, 2 ARAPAHOE DRIVE IN KYLE TEXAS.
THE REASON THAT I'M COMING TO YOU THIS EVENING IS BECAUSE OF FAMILY HOLDINGS, THAT WE HAVE PROPERTIES HERE DOWNTOWN.
AND I NOTICED ON THE AGENDA THAT THERE ARE SOME CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE ZONINGS.
SO FIRST OFF, LET ME JUST TELL YOU WHEN THE PARK, WHEN THE MONEY FORUM, UM, THE PIPELINE WAS SPENT ON THAT PARK, I WAS NOT PLEASED.
HOWEVER IT IS BEAUTIFULLY DONE.
STILL WISHED THE MONEY HAD GONE TO EMS FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE.
IT IS COMPLETE CHANGING THE ZONING TO GET RID OF FOOD AND RESTAURANTS FROM THAT AREA IS SILLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE MENTIONED TO SOME FRIENDS, WHEN I SAW THAT A BEAUTIFUL PARK, WHEN IT WAS BEING BUILT, I SAID, OH, GOODY, I CAN LET MY KIDS PLAY WHILE I GO HAVE A BEER UNTIL TWO IN THE MORNING.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THAT PARK WAS TO DEVELOP FAMILY FRIENDLY DINING ACTIVITIES.
AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE OUR COUNCIL FULFILL THAT DREAM THAT WAS THOUGHT OF MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
SO THOSE ARE MY 2 CENTS, WHICH MAY NOT BE WORTH A PENNY.
BUT I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE IF WE'RE REALLY HERE TO BUILD A FAMILY FRIENDLY, BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY, LET'S SEE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
JUST TO, UH, TALK ABOUT THE WATER BILL, WHY OUR WATER BILL IS SO HIGH.
I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ON, ON MY NEXT DOOR APP AND THEY ALL COMPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON WITH A WATER BILL THAT IS SO HIGH.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M HERE TO LET Y'ALL KNOW WHY ANY OF ANYTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.
NEXT UP, MISS ANGELINA CHOPPER.
MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, SOME OF ALLINA CHAPA.
I LIVE IN, UM, HERE IN KYLE, UH, THE DISTRICT CBD ONE.
AND I'M HERE TO ASK YOU NOT TO CONSIDER THE, UH, ADDING THE USAGES TO OF THE BREW PUB TO CBD TOO.
AND I WANT YOU TO THINK OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE AND MAKING THEIR LIVING AS, AS A HOMETOWN, WHEN WE'RE ADDING ALL THESE PUBS, THIS BARS, I DON'T CONSIDER IT A, A SAFE TOWN.
AND I WISH THAT YOU WOULD THINK OF ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE THAT HAVE ISSUES WITH A LOUD NOISE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAVE.
I KNOW THAT THE, PROBABLY THE BREWING PUB WOULD HAVE MUSIC.
UM, I KNOW THE PAPA JACKS HAD THE KARAOKE AND THE PEOPLE WHO WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.
UM, SOME PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT
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THE STREET THAT'S SO DARK CENTER STREET.THEY'RE AFRAID TO EVEN COME AT NIGHT THROUGH THERE BECAUSE OF THE PEDESTRIANS.
PEOPLE TOLD ME THAT I'M TIRED OF CLEANING THE VOMIT ON THE SIDEWALKS.
OTHER RESIDENTS HAVE TOLD ME THEY THEY'RE TIRED OF PICKING BEER CANS, BOTTLES THROWN THAT ARE THROWN, OR EITHER BLOWN THERE.
ONE RESIDENT TOLD ME THERE WAS A DRUNK GUY ON THEIR PORCH, SLEEPING ON THEIR PORCH.
THEY WOKE UP AND THERE HE WAS, UM, OTHERS TOLD ME THAT AROUND THE GAZEBOS AND TIMES THEY FIND A LOT OF TRASH ON THERE.
I KNOW THAT I'VE JUST HEARING THE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, IT'S HERE.
THEY SAY THAT IT'S, THEY WANT TO BEAUTIFY IT TO ATTRACT, UH, TOURISM.
THEY WON BOTH TICKS SO PEOPLE CAN COME AND DO THEIR SHOPPING AND ENJOY THE, THE, THE TOWN.
THEY WENT EATERY PLACES SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE, UH, ENJOY IT, THEIR MEAL, AND THEN CONTINUE THEIR SHOPPING.
WELL, ALL OF THIS MAKES KYLE AND ORRICK FAMILY ORIENTED, ORIENTED PLACE.
BY ADDING MORE BARS TO KYLE, IT'S NOT BEAUTIFYING IT.
IT'S NOT MAKING IT A FAMILY ORIENTED AND BARS ARE ONLY OPEN AT NIGHT AND, UM, THE CLIENTELE WOULD BE DRINKING.
THEY WOULDN'T BE SHOPPING IN THOSE CUTE LITTLE BOUTIQUES.
SO I HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER DO NOT CONSIDER THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS.
THOSE ARE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE.
CITIZEN COMMENTS IS NOW CLOSED.
[IV. Appointments ]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPOINT A NOMINEE FOR POSITION OF THE KYLE ETHICS COMMISSION.UH, I DID WANT TO STATE BEFORE WE START THAT THE W I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICY, BUT FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD, THE ETHICS COMMISSION APPOINTEE IS A PROCESS THAT IS CONSIDERED OUTSIDE OF THAT.
UH, SO MS. PARSA IS A, THE RIGHT AND DUTY TO NOMINATE SOMEONE.
SO, UH, I'LL TURN THE FLOOR TO MS. PARSLEY.
MA'AM UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MY SUGGESTION TO APPOINT MS. SHERRY BIGELOW BAUER AS MY, UM, ETHICS COMMISSION NOMINEE.
UM, SHERRY IS AN IMMINENTLY QUALIFIED TO SERVE IN THE KYLE'S I THINK COMMITTEE.
UM, SHE HOLDS A DEGREE IN BUSINESS FROM WHEATLAND COLLEGE IN ILLINOIS AND HAS UTILIZED HER EDUCATION, BUT SERVING IN POSITIONS RANGING FROM SALES TO MARKETING AND MANAGEMENT, UH, FOR THE BIGELOW DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
UM, SHE ALSO HAS DEVOTED COUNTLESS HOURS TO CAUSES.
SHE HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE HAYES COUNTY, REPUBLICAN WOMEN FOR MANY YEARS, AND RECENTLY SERVED AS THE ORGANIZATION'S PRECEDENT, WHERE SHE OFFERS SOME MEMBERSHIP, SORRY, MEMBERSHIP EVENT PLANNING AND FUNDRAISING.
AND THIS IN THIS CAPACITY, SHERRY WAS SO SUCCESSFUL THAT SHE WAS ASKED TO OVERSEE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AT A FUNDRAISER FOR GOVERNOR ABBOTT IN HER PERSONAL LIFE.
SHE IS UNQUESTIONABLY THE VOTER TO HER CHILDREN AND WORKS TIRELESSLY TO ENSURE THEY ARE BROUGHT UP WITH THE VALUES THAT HAVE EXEMPLIFIED HER LIFE.
SHE HAS INVESTED 25 YEARS OF HOMESCHOOLING.
THE FRUITS OF THESE INVESTMENTS ARE OBVIOUS AS HER ADULT CHILDREN HAVE GROWN TO BECOME HIGHLY REGARDED AND PROFESSIONAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND HER YOUNGER CHILDREN AT VERY POLITE, RESPECTFUL, AND WELL-EDUCATED, UM, INFORMATION.
I SIMPLY CANNOT THINK OF A MORE QUALIFIED PERSON TO SERVE US ON THE ETHICS COMMITTEE THAN SHARE A BIG GOAL OF OUR, UM, HER PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL LIFE ARE A TESTAMENT OF HER UNWAVERING, ETHICS AND ETHIC AND DEDICATION TO HER COMMUNITY'S FUTURE.
I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY RECOMMEND THIS POWER FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND, UM, FOR YOUR APPROVAL, UH, FOR THE MEMBERSHIP ON THE ETHICS COMMITTEE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER TOBY'S YES.
UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO MS. BAUER AND WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION, UH SHE'S HERE OR THERE.
AND, UH, WE HAD A GOOD TALK ABOUT, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SHE WANTED TO BE APPOINTED IS, UM, FOR MANY YEARS OF VOLUNTEERING IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO WITH HER FAMILY BUSINESS, UH, AND SHE KIND OF DESCRIBED A LOT OF WHAT SHE DOES ON A DAILY BASIS WITH, UH, HER VOLUNTEERING AND WITH HER COMPANY.
AND IT SHOWS A HIGH REGARD FOR INTEGRITY.
AND, AND I DID ASK HER THE QUESTION THAT IF THERE IS EVER A SITUATION TO WHERE, UH, AN ETHICS CONCERN OR A COMPLAINT IS BROUGHT FORWARD, HOW SHE WOULD HANDLE, AND THE, UH, SHE STATED THAT I WOULD GET ALL THE INFORMATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, READ IT ALL AND BE FAIR ABOUT IT, AND LOOK AT THE, ALL THE FACTS BEFORE WE, UH, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UH, THE COUNCIL, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH OTHER
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COMMISSIONERS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND AND MAKE THIS A PRETTY MUCH AN EAT VERY EQUAL ON THAT.AND SO, UH, AGAIN, IT WAS A PLEASURE TO SPEAK TO YOU, MS. BAUER, IF YOU'RE UP THERE AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND GETTING BACK WITH ME AND, AND I LIKE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, FOR HER TO BE APPOINTED AS WELL.
IT'S BEEN A MOTION BY CUSTOMER TOBIA SECONDED BY CUSTOMER ELLISON THAT WE APPROVE, UH, SHERRY BIGELOW BAUER TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? WE'D LIKE YOU TO COME UP, PLEASE? I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHERE YOU ARE.
THAT'S THE REASON WHY, CAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING FROM THE BACK, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME YOU PUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND A WELCOME, THANK YOU.
IF THE VOTE GOES THIS WAY, A WELCOME TO DEAN KYLE.
UM, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AT LEAST FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, OPENING YOURSELF TO THAT OPPORTUNITY.
WE'VE SPOKEN ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
UM, AND, AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT MS. BAUER IS WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME, UM, I GUESS, UH, BELIEFS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, BLUE, RED, BUT SHE SHE'S GREAT.
LIKE YOU WOULD NEVER TELL SHE, SHE REMINDS ME A LOT OF, UM, MS. COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, IS IT? YOU JUST CAN'T TELL.
AND SO SOMETIMES I LIKE TO JUST SAY GUYS, MAYBE WE DON'T LOOK TOWARDS THAT AND WE LOOK PAST THAT BECAUSE, UM, I THINK IF I WOULD HAVE, UM, COME IN WITH THAT PRECONCEPTION, I WOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN YOU A FAIR CHANCE, BUT AFTER SPEAKING WITH YOU, YOU ARE, UM, A GREAT NOMINEE AND, UM, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU ON THERE AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU FOR EVEN ACCEPTING IT.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[6. President George Washington Day Proclamation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor ]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, PRESIDENT GEORGE WASHINGTON DAY PROCLAMATION, UH, I ALWAYS, UH, KIND OF HAVE A CERTAIN RULES ABOUT PROCLAMATION REQUESTS AND ONE OF THEM IS, UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL.
MR. SUE HOYT ALWAYS, UH, COMES TO MAKE THE, UH, UH, PROCLAMATION, UH, EVENTFUL AND MEMORABLE SO ON, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT AND INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD.
UH, AND WHILE YOU DO THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ OUT THIS PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WAS ESTABLISHED FOLLOWING THE WAR OF REVOLUTION FROM 1776 TO 1783, A WAR ONE THROUGH THE BRILLIANT AND COURAGEOUS LEADERSHIP OF GEORGE WASHINGTON, REVERED FATHER OF OUR NATION.
AND WHEREAS GEORGE WASHINGTON, WHO LIVED FROM 1732 TO 1799, MOBILIZE THE CONTINENTAL ARMY AND LED THE AMERICAN COLONIES AGAINST THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
FINALLY DEFEATING THE BRITISH AT THE FAMOUS BATTLE OF YORKTOWN VIRGINIA.
AND WHEREAS THIS REVERED FOUNDER OF OUR NATION, UH, RESISTED THE EFFORTS OF MANY SUPPORTERS TO MAKE HIM A KING OR DICTATOR INSTEAD USING HIS INFLUENCE AND POWER TO SUPPORT THE CREATION AND ADOPTION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND WHEREAS GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS ELECTED AS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SERVING TWO TERMS OF OFFICE FROM 1789 TO 1797.
AND THROUGH HIS DEVOTION WISDOM AND VISION BECAME THE EXEMPLAR OF DISTINGUISHED LEADERSHIP FOR ALL FUTURE PRESIDENTS.
AND WHEREAS THE WILLIAM HIGHTOWER CHAPTER OF SONS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION WISH TO ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THAT EPICAL, UH, UH, CONTRIBUTIONS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON, GEORGE WASHINGTON, TO OUR NATION BY CELEBRATING HIS BIRTH ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22ND, 2022.
UH, NOW THEREFORE, UH, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR DO, UH, PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 22ND, 2022 IS PRESIDENT GEORGE WASHINGTON DAY AND CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE BRILLIANCE, COURAGE, AND VISION OF THE FATHER OF OUR NATION AND THE RELEVANCE OF HIS LIFE AND THE PRESERVATION OF OUR DEMOCRACY IN TODAY'S COMPLEX WORLD.
UH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, MR. HOOD, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY YOU CAN STEP TO THE PONY IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE REMARK AGAIN, COUNCIL, MY NAME IS STU HOODS AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.
WE GET OUR MEMBERSHIP BY PROVING DIRECT BLOODLINE DESCENDANCY OF THOSE THAT SUPPORTED THE CAUSE OF FREEDOM THAT CAUSED THAT WE ALL ENJOY TODAY.
MY ANCESTOR FOUGHT AT THE BATTLE OF BUNKER HILL.
ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO PROMOTE AND NEVER ALLOW THE HISTORY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO BE RACE, BUT YET IT IS FEDERALLY.
THE FATHER OF OUR NATION GAVE 35 YEARS OF HIS LIFE SO THAT WE COULD
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ENJOY THE PRIVILEGES WE HAD TODAY.YOU HAD TO FIGHT HIS OWN GENERALS.
HE HAD TO FIGHT THE PEOPLE TO GET THINGS DONE.
AND YET WE HAVE A CONSTITUTION TODAY OF WHICH HE PRESIDED OVER.
THAT IS THE LONGEST, THE GREATEST, AND NO OTHER NATION CAN CLAIM THAT HERITAGE.
AND YET ON JANUARY 1ST, 1971, CONGRESS IN HOPES TO MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC PAST THE, UH, UNIFIED MONDAY'S HOLIDAY ACT, GIVING US A LONG WEEKEND WHAT A DEAL WAS KILLED.
GEORGE WASHINGTON'S BIRTHDAY TODAY, THE CHILDREN OF OUR SCHOOLS.
AND MOST OF YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHEN GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS BORN.
IT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR SUCH A MAN THAT GAVE HIS ENTIRE LIFE TO BE PUT SECOND PLACE IN HISTORY.
AND I WANT TO THANK THE KYLE CITY COUNCIL FOR PROMOTING FEBRUARY 22ND, GEORGE WASHINGTON'S BIRTHDAY.
AND IF WE'D LIKE TO, WE CAN STAY IN AND WE CAN DO A PHOTO WITH MR. ROY, IF YOU WANT TO STAY IN HERE, WE'LL SQUEEZE IN BEHIND YOU.
WE'LL BE UP HERE AND WE'LL TAKE PHOTO.
IS THAT OKAY? NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE PERFECT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
I GOT TO SEE YOU AT COMMISSIONER'S COURT TODAY.
SO DEFINITELY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[7. Spay Neuter Awareness Month Council Proclamation. ~ Dex Ellison, CouncilMember ]
RIGHT.NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, SPAY NEUTER AWARENESS MONTH.
COUNCIL PROCLAMATION CUTS RAILS.
UM, SO, UM, BRINGING FORWARD A PROCLAMATION COUNCIL PROCLAMATION HERE, UH, I DON'T HAVE, UH, THE POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE THAT THE PREVIOUS ONE WE THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING A BUNCH OF COMMUNITY CATS IN HERE AND, UH, HAVING THEM ROAM FREE RANGE, BUT THEN I REMEMBERED I'M ALLERGIC.
SO PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA DURING THE PANDEMIC.
ALRIGHT, WELL ANYWAY, UM, I LIKE TO PROCEED WITH, UH, READING THROUGH THIS A CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS DOMESTIC ANIMALS HAVE PROVIDED COMPANIONSHIP TO PEOPLE FOR CENTURIES OFFERING LOVE AND LOYALTY WITH PROVIDING MANY OTHER BENEFITS TO THEIR OWNERS AND HUMAN FAMILIES.
AND WHEREAS IT IS ESTIMATED THAT THE MAJORITY OF US HOUSEHOLDS OWN PETS, UNDERSTANDING THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL BENEFITS OF PET COMPANIONSHIP YET MILLIONS OF ANIMALS ARE STILL WITHOUT PERMANENT HOMES.
AND WHEREAS EACH YEAR MILLIONS OF ANIMALS WHO ARE OTHERWISE HEALTHY AND ADOPTABLE ARE EITHER EUTHANIZED LEFT, HOMELESS OR FORCED TO LIVE ON THE STREETS OR BE KEPT IN SHELTERS.
AND WHEREAS IT IS ESTIMATED THAT A MAJORITY OF PETS LIVING IN AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY ARE NOT SPAYED OR NEUTERED, LEAVING THEM OPEN TO REPRODUCING AND ADDING TO THE OVERPOPULATION PROBLEM.
AND WE'RE AS SPAY AND NEUTER INITIATIVES REDUCE INCIDENTS OF HOMELESS ANIMALS, CERTAIN LIFE THREATENING DISEASES, AND EVEN CURVED NEGATIVE BEHAVIOR.
WHEREAS THE CITY OF COLLIN SUPPORTED THE POSITIVE OUTCOMES, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN SUPPORTS RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP AND ENCOURAGES THE COMMUNITY TO FIX THEIR PETS, TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNWANTED PETS, WHICH MAY BECOME HOMELESS STRAY OR ENTER THE REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND WE'RE AS SPAYING AND NEUTERING OF PETS AND TRAP NEUTER RETURN OF FREE ROAMING COMMUNITY CATS ARE INTEGRAL COMPONENTS OF REACHING AN INCREASINGLY HIGHER LIVE OUTCOME RATE AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STRAY AND HOMELESS DOGS AND CATS.
THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF CALL THAT THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, 2020 TO HELP PROMOTE SPAY AND NEUTER AWARENESS SIGNED HERE THIS 15TH DAY OF FEBRUARY.
SO, UM, I WANT TO THANK, UH, SHERRY AND I'M SURE A BUNCH OF OTHERS THAT WORK TOGETHER, UH, HELPING ME GET THIS PROCLAMATION TOGETHER, UM, IS NOT OFTEN DID I GET A PROCLAMATION? DID I DON'T WRITE MYSELF? AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THIS ONE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH THAT.
UM, AS WELL, WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO BRING AWARENESS TO A, WE ALL USE THE SAN MARCUS ANIMAL SHELTER HERE IN THIS REGION.
THERE ARE, UH, CERTAINLY AS I MENTIONED, OVERPOPULATION ISSUES, WE'VE PROBABLY BEEN HEARING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT LATELY AND I'D IMPLORE THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP.
AND IT CAN BE SIMPLE THINGS, JUST AWARENESS, HELPING USE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS TO HELP PROMOTE A, A,
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A DIFFERENT ANIMAL EACH WEEK, OR JUST DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.BECAUSE JUST THE FACT OF KNOWLEDGE AND AWARENESS OF THESE, WHAT THE COMMUNITY CAN DO.
UM, ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, VOLUNTEERING OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOSTERING OPPORTUNITIES, MANY DIFFERENT AVENUES FOR THIS.
AND I LOVE TO GET THE CITY'S HELP AND, AND CONTINUE TO, UH, BRING AWARENESS TO THAT.
UM, BUT THAT'S MY PROCLAMATION CERTAINLY OPEN TO, UH, COUNCIL'S COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK, BUT IF NOTHING ELSE, AND THEN IF THERE'S SUPPORT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A PICTURE AS WELL.
ANY COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THE PHOTO.
I'M THE HAYES COUNTY ANIMAL ADVOCATE FOR THE JUDGE'S OFFICE, AND I'VE ALSO FOUNDED PREVENTED LITTER.
WE OFFER SPAY-NEUTER ASSISTANCE FOR LOW INCOME PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY AND LOW-COST SPAY NEUTER FOR RESIDENTS OF HAYES COUNTY.
WE'RE THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING RIGHT NOW FOR SPAY NEUTER ON A LOW COST AND 15% OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SERVICED WITH THEIR PETS LAST YEAR CAME FROM KYLE.
SO, UM, PREVENT A LITTER.COM FIX YOUR PET AND YOUR WORD FRIENDS.
[8. Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program,and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager ]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UH, CITY MANAGERS REPORT.
HAPPY TO PRESENT THE STATE MANAGER'S REPORT FOR THIS EVENING.
FIRST UP, GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE THE SLIDE.
JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT A CITY OFFICES ARE CLOSED THIS NEXT MONDAY FOR IN HONOR OF PRESIDENT'S DAY ON THE 21ST NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.
RESCHEDULED DIALOGUE FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS.
CELEBRATING, CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY MONTH WILL BE THIS FRIDAY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK SEVEN TO EIGHT 30 HERE AT THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AS WELL AS YOU CAN WATCH ONLINE, UH, CHANNEL 10, OUR FACEBOOK YOUTUBE CHANNEL, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND IF YOU MISS IT THAT NIGHT, SURELY ALWAYS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH ON ANY OF THOSE AS WELL AFTER THE FACT ALWAYS HAVE GREAT DISCUSSIONS, UH, DIALOGUE, CERTAINLY FOR PEACE IN PROGRESS, TALKING ABOUT VARIOUS DIFFERENT SUBJECT MATTER, UH, THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T TALK ABOUT, UH, PUBLICLY.
UH, AND THEN WE GET TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE TYPICALLY MIGHT NOT HEAR FROM AS WELL.
SO, UH, CERTAINLY I, I I'D BE REMISSED IF I DIDN'T SAY THIS.
AND I WAS CERTAINLY A PREMISE THAT I DIDN'T BRING IT UP DURING OUR VISIONING WORKSHOP.
AND SPECIFICALLY YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO, TO WORK WITH STAFF AND, AND CONTINUING TO HAVE THIS PROGRAMMING SINCE WE STARTED IN JUNE OF 2020.
UM, AND IT'S NOT LOST ON ME THAT THAT SUPPORT AND, UH, AND IN MANY CASES ENCOURAGEMENT BY YOU ALL.
AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT, UH, AS WELL AND HOPE WE CERTAINLY LOOK TO EXPAND ON THESE.
CERTAINLY IF ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO BE A PART OF THESE, UH, STAFF CAN ATTEST AND DOSE THAT WORK TO IT.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET A DIVERSE RANGE OF IDEAS AND OPINIONS ON THE PANELS TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE WE REALIZE WE DO HAVE VARIOUS DIFFERENT VIEWS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LIVE IN A HEALTHY AND COLLABORATIVE COMMUNITY, UH, TOGETHER.
AND SO THAT, THAT IS THE GOAL OF THIS, AND THAT'S WHY IT DERIVED THE NAME THAT IT HAS.
THANK YOU TO THE CITY THAT SUPPORTED AS WELL AND STAFF.
UH, SAMANTHA, LET'S TALK ABOUT SAMANTHA ARMBRUSTER GEORGIA COMMUNICATIONS.
OUR ANNUAL COMMUNITY SURVEY IS LIVE.
SO IT IS LIVE UNTIL, UH, APRIL 4TH, ANYONE WHO COMPLETES THE SURVEY, AND THIS IS OUR TIME
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TO REALLY HEAR FROM ALL RESIDENTS ABOUT CITY SERVICES.UH, WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING WELL, WHAT MAYBE WE CAN IMPROVE ON AND HOW IT WILL HELP COUNCIL AS WE MOVE INTO THE BUDGET YEAR.
SO VERY IMPORTANT SURVEY, ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO, UH, TO COMPLETE THAT AND ALL THAT INTER OR COMPLETE COMPLETED WILL BE ENTERED TO WIN A PRIZE PACK.
SO, UH, CITY OF KYLE.COM/SURVEY, IT IS AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND IN PERSON AT CITY HALL AND THE LIBRARY AS WELL FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T ABLE TO DO IT ONLINE.
AND JUST A NOTE TO THE PUBLIC, THIS IS A GREAT AND IMPORTANT STEP IN THE CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS.
SO WE HOPE WE GET AS MANY RESPONSES AS POSSIBLE.
UH, WE HAVE CITIZENS WHO MANDRA JAMES OR MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, JAMES AARP ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
I'M HERE TO ANNOUNCE THAT NEXT WEEK ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH, FROM SIX TO 7:00 PM HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, WE WILL BE HOSTING A PUBLIC OPEN, OPEN SESSION, OPEN HOUSE FOR, UH, THE SMART CITY INITIATIVE, UH, THAT IS BEING, UH, PUT TOGETHER BY, UH, HONEYWELL AND PARTNERSHIP WITH US.
UH, WE LOOK FORWARD AND ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT AND TO, UH, GIVE AN EXCHANGE.
THERE'LL BE EFFECTIVELY LIKE A PRESENTATION TO HELP THE PUBLIC THAT SHOWS UP TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FOUNDATION OF A SMART CITY IS.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE LOOKING AT SOLICITING FEEDBACK SO THEY CAN INCORPORATE THAT ULTIMATELY IN THEIR FINAL PLANNING.
WE HAVE THE GREAT TEXAS RIVER CLEANUP, KATHY BREAKER.
MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER, KATHY RAKER STORMWATER PROGRAM FOR THE RECORD.
WE ARE GEARING UP RIGHT NOW FOR THE 37TH ANNUAL GREAT TEXAS RIVER CLEANUP.
THIS IS GOING TO BE KYLE'S FIFTH YEAR TO PARTICIPATE IN THE EVENT SO FAR HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
UH, WE MEET AT 8:30 AM AT WATER LEAF PARK, AND WE'RE GOING BACK TO PRE COVID STANDARDS WHERE WE WILL BE SERVING BREAKFAST TACOS FOR BREAKFAST AND PIZZA FOR LUNCH.
UH, WE'RE STILL GOING TO ENCOURAGE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASK WEARING FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN VACCINATED.
UM, AND ALSO TOO, I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL FOR BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EVENT.
IT'S A FUN TIME AND SIGN UP IS AVAILABLE.
AND SO FAR, I THINK WE HAVE 14 VOLUNTEERS OUT OF A HUNDRED.
SO SIGN UP, EVERYBODY THAT'S WATCHING JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT AND, UM, ENCOURAGED COUNSEL AND THEIR FAMILIES TO GO OUT THERE.
I KNOW ME AND MY FAMILY COUNCIL RELEVANT ARE USUALLY AT THESE CLEANUPS.
OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UH, OH YEAH, TOTALLY.
I'M SORRY, MIKE, BUT, UM, YEAH, DEFINITELY.
IT'S A FUN EVENT, MY FAMILY, AND I ENJOY IT.
WE DO IT AS A FAMILY AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE OTHER FAMILIES THERE AS WELL.
I TALKED TO ONE FAMILY LAST YEAR, UH, THE RAY'S FAMILY, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW IT WAS A GREAT LIFE LESSON FOR THEIR KIDS.
SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT AND BE A PART OF IT'S GREAT.
AND WE, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO CLEAN UP OUR STREAMS IN SOME OF OUR PARKS.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION MARIANA SPEND WITH THEM.
GOOD EVENING, MARIANA SPINOZA, PARKS, AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
JUST A COUPLE UPDATES FOR PROGRAMS AND EVENTS GOING ON IN THE PARK.
IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN YET AT MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK, WE HAVE A VALENTINE'S BACKDROP AT THE GAZEBO.
UH, IT'S JUST OUT THERE FREE LOTS OF FUN PHOTOS AND GO OUT THERE AND TAKE SELFIES, SHARE THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
IT WILL BE UP ALL WEEK UNTIL NEXT MONDAY.
UM, YESTERDAY WE STARTED OUR FIRST SUNRISE YOGA CLASS AT LAKE KYLE.
IT'S AT SEVEN 15 EVERY MONDAY, AND IT IS A FREE CLASS.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SUNSET AT LAKE KYLE.
UM, IF YOU KNOW ANYONE INTERESTED IN THAT ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 28TH, WE WILL START OUR FREE BATON TWIRLING CLASSES FOR YOUTH.
THEY ARE FREE BASIC BEGINNER CLASSES.
AND OUR GOAL IS THAT WE WILL BUILD A KYLE BATON TWIRLING CLUB THAT WILL PERFORM IN OUR PARADES AND SPECIAL EVENTS.
UM, AND THOSE CLASSES WILL BE TAUGHT ON MONDAYS AT FIVE 30 AT LAKE KYLE AND OUR REGISTRATION FOR OUR FAMILY SKATE NIGHTS AT ASH PAVILION IS ALSO OPENING UP.
AND OUR FIRST FAMILY SKATE NIGHT IS MARCH 5TH.
[9. Presentation regarding additional services for WAV riders using the Kyle Uber$3.14 program. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Assistant City Manager ]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, PRESENTATION REGARDING ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR WAVE VEHICLES USING THE COLLIBRA THREE 14 PROGRAM, MR. JERRY HENDRIX, MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
JERRY HENDRICKSON IS THE CITY MANAGER.
AS YOU KNOW OUR CAR, UBER 3, 1 4 PROGRAM CONTINUES TO GROW AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO NOT ONLY OUR RESIDENTS, BUT THE RESIDENTS JUST OUTSIDER OR CITY LIMITS, AND ALSO IS BECOMING A MODEL FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA THAT ARE HEARING ABOUT IT AS A WAY TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES EFFECTIVELY, SCALABLY AND AFFORDABLY, BUT WE'RE NOT DONE WITH IT YET.
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TO WORK ON IT.ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS HOW TO IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY TO WAIVE SERVICES ARE WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES.
AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT OPTION AVAILABLE ON OUR, ON OUR APPLICATION, BUT IT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE.
SO WE'VE BEEN TURNING OVER EVERY BUSH AND EVERY ROCK TO FIND, UH, MORE SERVICES THAT WE FOUND THAT, UH, WITH, UH, MERIDIAN ENTERPRISES PROVIDE A SERVICE CALLED MT.
CONNECT CURRENTLY PROVIDING SERVICES IN SAN ANTONIO AND NEW BRAUNFELS.
AND WE BELIEVE WE'VE REACHED AN AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO BRING THEIR SERVICES INTO KYLE.
I HAVE 'EM ON THE RINGCENTRAL PARTS PER WEEK.
HE'S A DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR RUDY WHO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH.
HE'S GONNA TO RUN YOU THROUGH, UH, OUR PROPOSAL REAL QUICK AFTERWARDS.
WE'LL HAVE, UH, BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
AND IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THEN WE'LL START WORKING ON A CONTRACT.
I GET, I HEAR GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
UH, FOR THE, UH, KYLE COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO SPEAK WITH US.
UM, I'M SHARING MY SCREEN NOW TO PUT UP A PRESENTATION, UH, HOPE EVERYONE IS ABLE TO SEE IT.
UM, SO MARUTI IN A, UH, WE'RE A DBE CERTIFICATION PROVIDER IN, UH, THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN TEXAS.
UH, WE WORKED IN THE ENGINEER HERE FOR OVER 16 YEARS AND WE TEAM BOTH WITH PUBLIC AGENCIES AND PRIVATE AGENCIES, UM, ON THE, UH, PRESENTATION.
THERE'S A FEW OF THE, UH, CURRENT, UM, COMPANIES AND AGENCIES THAT WE'VE WORKED DIRECTLY WITH.
UM, IN SAN ANTONIO, WE ARE A STRONG PARTNER WITH, UM, HUMANA AND COMMUNITY, WHICH ARE HEALTHCARE SOLUTIONS.
CONNECT AS A NON-EMERGENCY MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, UM, THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH UBER TO PROVIDE.
UM, THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO ONE GUARANTEED TRIP AVAILABILITY FOR KYLE AND ITS RESIDENTS.
UM, THE SECOND IS PROVIDE A BOOKING SOLUTION FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
UM, MULTIPLE BOOKING SOLUTIONS.
THE, UH, PROGRAM IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW FOR NOT ONLY A CALL CENTER WHERE OUR TEAM MEMBERS WILL HAVE TO BOOK THE TRIPS FOR RESIDENCES, BUT ALSO ALLOW FOR ON THAT IN-APP BOOKING.
AND THE THIRD GOAL IS TO PROVIDE A SCHEDULE BOOKING FOR ALL THE RESIDENCES.
SO THIS WILL ALLOW RESIDENT WHO NEEDS TO USE A WAVE SERVICE, UM, BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE A TRIP TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE SO THEY CAN BE SURE THAT A VEHICLE WILL BE, UM, ONSITE THE EXACT MOMENT THAT THEY WANT IT.
AND IT WILL CUT BACK ON THE ISSUE OF THERE NOT BEING A SUPPLY.
WHEN I RESIDENT NEEDS TO SERVICE IN THE COMMUNITY, MOVING ON TO A LITTLE BIT BACKGROUND, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 50 VEHICLES, 50 VEHICLES AROUND FLORIDA AND TEXAS.
UM, OUR CLOSES CURRENT PROJECT IS IN SAN ANTONIO AND WHERE WE DO PROVIDE, UM, SERVICE TO, UH, OUR HUMANA MEMBERSHIP.
UH, CURRENTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS PROVIDING A GMT CONNECT SERVICE TO CAPEX IS, UH, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8:00 AM AND 7:00 PM.
UM, BY WORKING WITH, UH, JERRY, WHERE WE CAN POTENTIALLY HAVE THOSE HOURS INCREASE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH COVERAGE TO ALLOW FOR ANY SORT OF USE OF THE WEIGHT VEHICLE.
UM, BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING OUT OF, UH, SAN ANTONIO AND WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE FLEET THAT WE HAVE THERE.
WHEN YOU LOOK TO PROVIDE A SOLUTION THAT'S VERY COST EFFECTIVE AND WILL NOT BE TOO, TOO HARMFUL IN THE SENSE OF NOT HAVING ENOUGH VEHICLES AND HAVING SHOULD HAVE PUSHBACK FROM RESONANCES.
UM, LIKE I'VE MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE TWO RESERVATION OPTIONS.
THE FIRST OPTION WILL ALLOW FOR, UM, THAT, UH, ALLOW FOR RESIDENTS TO CONTACT OUR CENTERS AND BE ABLE TO, UM, MAKE A RESERVATION BY TALKING THROUGH AND, UH, INDIVIDUAL FROM A RESERVATION SIGN.
UH, THE SECOND OPTION IS DIRECTLY THROUGH, UM, THE APP ITSELF.
UH, BOTH WAYS OF RESIDENT WILL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE SMS, TEXT MESSAGES, ALERTS, UH, TO REMIND THEM OF THEIR TRIP THAT'S SCHEDULED.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE BELIEVE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UM, SO WE CAN PROVIDE AN EFFICIENT SERVICE MOVING FORWARD.
WE KIND OF, UH, QUICKLY PITCH PACE ON OUR ONLINE BOOKING PLATFORM.
UM, WE ALSO ALLOW FOR MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO BOOK ONLINE, UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SIMPLY VISIT UBER AND REQUEST OUR TRIP, OUR, OUR, OUR SERVICE AND CONNECT.
UM, EVEN IF THEY BOOK ONLINE, THEY WILL STILL RECEIVE SMS MESSAGES AND MOBILE ALERTS
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AND AUTOMATED CALLBACKS TO A LANDLINE.IF THAT'S HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE NOTIFIED ABOUT, UM, THIS HERE, WE KIND OF BREAK DOWN AND OUTLINE KIND OF WHAT THE USER EXPERIENCE, UM, SIMILAR TO THE, UH, THE CURRENT UBER X BOTTLE THAT'S, UH, BEING UTILIZED BY US IN KYLE.
WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE THE RESIDENT AND THE RIDER, A PICKUP CONFIRMATION WAITING SCREEN TO SEE HOW LONG THE TRIPLE PINK AND HOW FAR THE VEHICLE IS.
AND LASTLY, UM, ANY SORT OF INFORMATION ABOUT OUR THAT WILL COME AND PICK UP THEIR INDIVIDUAL ARE THE SAME.
UM, THE, THE RIDER IS ABLE TO SEE CLEAR, UH, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING TO THE TRIP, THE BEST ROUTE FOR THE TRIP AND, UH, THE BEST ROUTE THE OPERATOR WILL BE TAKING, UH, FROM THIS.
SO OFFICER ABLE TO ASSIGN NOTIFICATIONS.
SO IF THE RESIDENT IS GOING INTO A DOCTOR'S OFFICE OR A MEDICAL APPOINTMENT, UH, THEY'RE ABLE TO NOTIFY THEM WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE GOING TO GET, RIGHT.
UM, THIS KIND OF, THIS, THIS IMAGE IS OUR FLEET.
UM, SO THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT OUR VEHICLES WILL LOOK LIKE.
WE USE DODGE CARAVANS IN FOUR TRAINS.
IT'S, UM, THEY'RE CLEARLY MARKED, UH, TO SHOWCASE THAT THEY ARE ADA ACCESSIBLE.
UM, AND THEY'RE WELL-BRANDED SO, UM, THE RESIDENTS AND THEY'RE THE, THE WRITERS ARE VERY, THEY FEEL SAFE AND THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE VEHICLES THAT ARE PICKING THEM UP.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR HIM THAT WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THESE VEHICLES, UM, RUNNING AROUND IN PAL, TEXAS.
UM, UM, I ALSO WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY WE INCLUDE, UM, SOME OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES MAINLY FOR SAFETY.
SO WE, UM, ALWAYS SHARE THAT THERE'S A CAMERAS AND, UM, DASH CAMS IN, UH, PASSENGER FAMERS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ALL THE RESIDENTS AND ALL THE WRITERS AND, UM, DRIVERS.
WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ALL OF THEIR DRIVERS ARE IN FACT BEING, UH, AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY IS TRAPPED AND PRACTICALLY THAT'S ONE THING THAT IS REALLY BIG FOR BIRDIE IS SAFETY.
UM, AND WE WANT TO PASS THAT SORT OF SAFETY AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY HAS, UM, THE SAFEST AND BEST EXPERIENCE AT CANADA WHEN THEY'RE UTILIZING THIS KIND OF, THIS SUN ALSO KIND OF BREAKS DOWN SOME OF OUR COLLISION WARNING SYSTEMS, US AS A COMPANY, UH, PUTS ON ALL OF OUR VEHICLES.
UM, WE MONITORED THREE BIG THINGS WITH DRIVING, DISTRACTED, DRIVING TAILGATING, AND FOR COLLISIONS, ALL OF THESE ARE WARNING SYSTEMS THAT COME STANDARD ON ALL OF VERDI'S FLEETS AND ALL OF OUR VEHICLES.
UM, AND THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER ADDED BENEFIT OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL COME TO CAPEX AS PART OF THIS PARTNERSHIP.
UM, ONE THING, ANOTHER BIG THING I LOOKED TOUCH BASE ON IS BECAUSE MURRAY TRANSPORTATION, HIS BACKGROUND IS IN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND WE WORK WITH STATE AGENCIES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA.
IN ESSENCE, UH, WE STICK TO A VERY STRICT FOREVER TRAINING PROGRAM.
UH, WE ALLOW FOR ONLY TWO 80 HOURS OF OVERALL OPERATOR TRAINING.
UM, AND THIS IS A BRIEF TABLE THAT BREAKS OUT THE TYPE OF TRAINING.
THEY RECEIVE CLASSROOM PRE DRIVING SKILLS BEHIND THE WHEEL AND CONDEMNING THIS FALLS DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THAT POT, UH, AND A DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO.
IN FACT, YOU HAD ALL THOSE OBLIGATIONS AND OUR DRIVERS, UM, RECEIVED THE MOST AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT WE COULD PROVIDE.
UM, EACH DRIVER ALSO RECEIVES SUPPLEMENTAL TRAINING, UM, BY, UH, OUR HOURLY TRAINING.
THAT'S DONE ONCE A MONTH TO KIND OF REFRESH THEMSELVES ON ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, ITEMS THAT THEY COVERED DURING THEIR TRAINING COURSES, UH, BREAK DOWN IS FOR OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM AS WELL.
WE PROVIDE THE SAME SORT OF TRAINING TO ALL OF OUR CALL CENTERS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM MEMBERS.
AND, UH, THE BREAKDOWN IS, UH, BROKEN DOWN INTO FIVE DAYS LEADING TO TRAINING INTRODUCTION, UBER CENTRAL TRAINING, WHICH IS THE RESERVATION PORTAL THAT WILL BE, UH, ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL KYLE THAT'S DESCRIBES EVENTS, UM, CRISIS AND CUSTOMER, UH, MANAGEMENT TRAINING DRIVER, RIGHT ALONG IN ZONE AND ROUTE EDUCATION.
UH, DAVE FORD IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, UH, THAT ALLOWS ALL OF OUR TEAM TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE CONTEXT OF THE AREA AND REMEMBER IT, AND BE FAMILIAR WITH ALL THEM SEPARATE LOCATIONS AROUND CAPEX.
UM, THIS ALLOWS FOR US TO, IF THERE EVER IS A GRIEVANCE TO
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BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE, UM, TO THE CUSTOMER AND ENSURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A QUICK AND EASY SOLUTION TO WHATEVER GRIEVANCE THAT MIGHT BE COMING, UM, IN THE LAST DAY FIVE AND TRADING IS A LIVE CALL KINETIC, UH, THIS CALL, UM, CADETS ENSURES THAT THEY ARE TRAINED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO PROPERLY SPEAK TO THE CLAIMS AND THE CUSTOMERS, UM, TO AGAIN, UH, SOLIDIFIED THE FACT THAT OUR CUSTOMERS DO COME FIRST AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE.UH, WE ALSO PROVIDE IN DEPTH, UM, TECHNOLOGY TRAINING.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE NOT ONLY DO, IF THE RESIDENTS HAVE AN ISSUE WITH GETTING ON THE APP OR LOOKING FOR THE SERVICE IN PILE, WE, THEY CAN GIVE US A CALL AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM, UH, THE TRAINING IN THE CORRECT WAY OF, UM, ACCESS TO THE PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S DONE THROUGH OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES.
UH, LASTLY, I ALSO WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON OUR SAFETY RECORD, UM, AS A COMPANY IN GENERAL, WHEN WE LOG ON WHERE 4 MILLION MILES ON OUR VEHICLES.
UM, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HAVING A VERY, VERY, VERY LOW, UH, UH, ACCIDENT RATIO, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IN CORPUS CHRISTI, UH, FOR OVER 300, 400,000 MILES PER BED, WE'VE HAD MR ACCIDENTS AS OF LAST YEAR, UM, IN SAN ANTONIO FOR OVER 610,000 MILES DRIVEN.
UM, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF ITS MEMBERS, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT SAFETY FOCUS FORWARD.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE OUR CUSTOMERS ARE SAFE AFTER COVID-19.
SO ALL OF OUR VEHICLES ARE ROUTINELY DISINFECTED.
OUR DRIVERS DO, UM, WHERE, UH, PERSONAL PROTECTION EQUIPMENT TO ENSURE, UM, OUR CLIENTS ARE SAFE AND THEY HAVE THE BEST EXPERIENCE POSSIBLE, AND WE DO NOT PUT ANYONE AT RISK.
UM, ONE BIG THING THAT CAME FROM OUR PROGRAM IS, UH, WE PROVIDE, UM, UH, PROVIDING MEALS THAT ARE DELIVERED TO HIGH-RISK SENIORS IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WE TRY TO STOP THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS NOW.
UM, ALSO THE FACT THAT SINCE YOU ARE GOING TO BE WORKING TO BE WORKING TOGETHER AT VERDE KITCHEN COMES FROM THE TRANSPORTATION, AND WE ALSO, UM, ENSURE STRONG REPORTING AND ACCIDENT INCIDENTS, UH, RESPONDING.
SO, UM, OUR COMPANY POLICY IS TO ENSURE ALL OF OUR ROAD SUPERVISORS AND MANAGERS ARE ONSITE AT ANY SORT OF ACCIDENT TO THEM.
UM, THAT MIGHT OCCUR IN THAT WE PRAY THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN, BUT, UM, YOU NEVER KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN TRANSPORTATION.
SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO BE SURE THAT OUR TEAM IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND ONSITE, AND THAT WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF MANY OF THE MEMBERS OF PILOT, TEXAS, EVEN KEITH, EVERY WITH QUESTIONS AND CONSUMERS.
UH, LASTLY IS, ARE SAFETY STANDARDS, UM, AS A PARTNER WITHIN RIVERA, WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THEM.
SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT RUPERT PROVIDES THROUGH THEIR APP, UH, IT'S ALSO THE SAME THINGS WE ALREADY PROVIDES.
UM, AND THAT KINDA TOUCHES BASE ON PASSENGER TRIP, UM, LOCATION, GPS TRACKING, UH, RIDE CHECKS, UM, AND A DEDICATED TEAM TO RESPOND TO ANY SORT OF CONCERNS.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A PERFORMANCE MONITORING PLAN, UH, THAT WE'VE OUTLINED, UM, WITH THE KYLE KYLE TEAM, UH, TO MONITOR A LOT OF IMPORTANT KPIS OR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO SHOW HOW WELL THE PROJECT IS PROGRESSING.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE TOUCHED BASE ON ARE ON TIME PERFORMANCE, UH, COLLISION RATE, CUSTOMER COMPLIANCE, AND SYSTEM UTILIZATION.
UM, ALL OF THESE REPORTS WILL BE BUILT OUT IN A QUARTERLY OR MONTHLY, UM, MANNER, UM, DEPENDING UPON HOW FREQUENTLY KYLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE AND THE LAST COUPLE OF SIDES WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, MOBILIZATION AND TIMELINE, UH, SPEAKING TO COLLIN, UNDERSTANDING THE URGENCY OF HOW QUICKLY WE WANT TO PUT THIS SORT OF PROJECT OUT THERE.
UH, WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT A 12 WEEK, UH, TURNAROUND TIME, BUT BECAUSE OF OUR PROXIMITY TO CANNING RESOURCES IN SAN ANTONIO, UH, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THAT DOWN TO FOUR BETWEEN FOUR AND SIX WEEKS.
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UM, AND THAT'S BASED OFF OF, UM, DEPENDING ON UBER'S SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATION AND HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN DO IT, BUT WE'RE FAIRLY, FAIRLY SURE WE CAN GET IT DONE WITHIN SIX WEEKS.UH, WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE KYLE TEAM AS WELL, AND THEN I'LL PRAY SOME KIND OF, TO START OFF WITH AN INTEGRATION TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATION FEE, WHICH IS A ONE-TIME FEE, UM, $35,000.
AND THIS FEE, UM, JUST PUTS KYLE PLEXUS ON OUR PLATFORM AND ALLOW HIS, UH, KYLE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, UM, NEAR SAN ANTONIO, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO TRIPPED BREAKDOWNS, WE PROVIDE A $12, UH, PER TRIP LOAD FEE AND A PER MILE FEE.
UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS CHARGED TO THE WRITER.
UM, AND I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, ABOUT $3 AND 14 CENTS OF THAT PEOPLE WILL BE COVERED BY THE CITY.
UM, SO THAT IS KIND OF OUR PEAK STRUCTURE AND THAT CAN BE BROKEN DOWN, UM, PER RIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND, UM, AFTER PRICING, THAT IS MY, UH, THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION, AND I'LL KIND OF OPEN IT UP TO ANY SORT OF QUESTIONS ANYONE MIGHT HAVE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JERRY, ANYTHING TO ADD? JUST ONE THING, UM, THE RIDER WILL PAY $3 AND 14 CENTS, OR I'LL PICK UP THE REST OF IT.
IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME PLATFORM WHERE WE'RE GETTING WAVE.
WE'RE INTEGRATING WITH GOOGLE.
IT'LL BE A SPECIFIC COMPANY THAT COMES A LITTLE MORE COST TO THE CITY, BUT WILL ALLOW FOR US TO ACHIEVE A TRUE WAVE VEHICLE, YOU KNOW? YES, SIR.
AND ACTUALLY THIS COST STRUCTURE IS ACTUALLY VERY, VERY CLOSE TO REGULAR UBER, 3, 1, 4 RIDERS.
AND YOUR INTENTION IS TO, UH, BRING BACK A CONTRACT TO ALLOW US TO PURSUE THIS.
AND THIS ALSO WILL HELP US SATISFY AND, UM, UH, BE ON GOOD TERMS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOR TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF THAT IS OUR HOPE AFTER THIS MEETING, WE'LL SET UP OUR NEXT CALL WITH THEM TO INTRODUCE THEM TO THAT.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS DO I APPROACH? I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT, JERRY, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK WITH THE UBER THREE 14 PROGRAM AND WITH THE, UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN A PROCESS TO FIND SOMEONE THAT COULD HELP US WITH THE NEED THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THANK YOU FOR WORKING AS HARD AS YOU DO.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
I THINK THIS IS A GREAT COST SAVINGS FOR CITIES.
I WOULD IMPLEMENT, UH, ENCOURAGE OTHER CITIES TO LOOK AT OUR OVER THREE 14 PROBLEM TO HELP SOLVE SOME OF THEIR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
TOBY'S, UH, REAL QUICK, UH, JUST TWO QUESTIONS.
SO IF THIS GOES THROUGH, DO THESE VANS HAVE A ASSESSABLE FOR THOSE THAT ARE WHEELCHAIR THAT ARE BATTERY POWERED EMILY, SO BARK.
UH, ALL OUR VEHICLES ARE, UM, THEY'RE LONG WHEEL BASE, SO THEY WILL IN FACT BE ABLE TO, UM, BRING ON A BATTERY POWERED SCOOTERS CHAIRS.
SECOND QUESTION IS, AS I SEE THE HOURS ARE FROM EIGHT TO SEVEN.
UM, MOST DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE, UM, UH, DISABLED, HAVE THEIR APPOINTMENTS, USUALLY BETWEEN EIGHT TO 10, A LOT OF TIMES.
SO WOULD THAT CONFLICT WITH PICKUP TIMES AND SO FORTH? I DON'T BELIEVE IT LUNA PARK AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADJUST THOSE HOURS BASED ON DEMAND AND ALSO THE ABILITY TO BOOK A RIDE AT ANY TIME.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING SO HARD.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS NOT AN EASY TASK, BUT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE UNAWARE, BUT WATCHING OTHER SITUATION IT'S COULD YOU JUST GIVE LIKE A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ABOUT AND WHY THE CITY ALSO NEEDS TO LOOK FOR AN ALTERNATIVE? WHY WOULD WE USE WAVE? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE REALLY TOUCHED ON THAT DURING THIS MEETING.
SO, SO PART OF PROVIDING A TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM THAT USES PUBLIC MONEY, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE ADA STANDARDS, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS OF WHATEVER YOU PROVIDE HAS TO BE AVAILABLE AT THE SAME STANDARD AS, AS ANY OTHER PART OF THE PROGRAM.
AND WHEN WE LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM, UBER DOES HAVE A WAVE COMPONENT TO WHAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED HERE, THAT OUR EXPERIENCES, THAT, THAT WAY OF COMPONENTS NOT ALWAYS AVAILABLE LIKE THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER RIDES.
AND I'LL BE HONEST, I GET CALLS.
THE ONLY CALLS I GET ARE EITHER FROM PEOPLE IN OTHER CITIES THAT ARE MAD BECAUSE WE DON'T COME TO THEM AND, AND REGULAR UBER, 3, 1, 4 RIDERS THAT CAN'T GET, CAN'T GET A RIDE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING ABOUT 30 RIDES A DAY RIGHT NOW.
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UM, I'VE ONLY HAD ONE COMPLAINT AND IN A YEAR AND A HALF ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET A WAVE RIDE, BUT WE DON'T, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WAY RIDES REQUESTED, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THOSE RIDES AVAILABLE.AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO FIND SOMETHING TO BACK UP THE EXISTING WAVE.
AND WE'VE FOUND THAT WE BELIEVE WITH THE MT CONNECT AND THE PROGRAM THAT MR. PARKER, I'M A CALL IN PART BECAUSE I SCREW UP THE LAST NAME, BUT ANYWAYS, SO THAT'S PART OF OUR COMMITMENT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES, THE SAME SERVICES ON THE SAME PLATFORMS TO EVERYBODY.
AND WE BELIEVE THIS WILL TAKE US A LONG WAY TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT GOAL.
SO THIS, THIS IS GOING TO BE IN ADDITION TO, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE REGULAR UBER AND THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO, OKAY.
AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, AND KIND OF MY FEAR IS, UM, IF THIS DOES NOT MEET THE ADA COMPLIANCY AND WE SPEND THE $35,000, WHAT IS GOING TO BE OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT STEP, W REGARDLESS, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON IMPROVING ALL PARTS OF THE SERVICE.
I JUST DON'T WANT TO S YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND 35,000 TO INTEGRATE INTO THE WAVE SYSTEM.
IF, I MEAN, WE WILL BE ABLE TO OFFER THOSE RIDES, THE ADA RIDES, UM, WHICH WILL BE A RELIEF IN, AGAIN, IT'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? YOU SAID YOU GET MAYBE ONE CALL, UM, A MONTH, OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN ONE ALTOGETHER, BUT, UM, MY CONCERN WOULD BE IF THIS IS NOT A SUFFICIENT FOR THE ADA, AND WE'VE JUST SPENT $35,000, WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE DO? WE'LL KEEP LOOKING.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP LOOKING ANYWAY FOR, FOR ALL PARTS OF THE PROGRAM.
THERE'S A LOT OF PRODUCTS OUT THERE THAT, THAT WE HAVE IN THE QUEUE THAT WE HAVEN'T LAUNCHED YET.
AND, AND THIS ONE COVERS A LOT OF BASES FOR US.
IT ALLOWS FOR, FOR PEOPLE THAT, THAT NEED WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.
AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, THAT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL, BUT IT'S NOT JUST FOR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS, IT'S FOR DINING OUT WITH FRIENDS, GOING TO SEE MOVIES TO, TO THINGS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.
AND THIS GOES A LONG WAY TO SATISFY THAT COULD PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ADA, UM, THAT NEED ADA, CAN THEY MAKE, CAN THEY MAKE A, WAS OR USES SERVICE AS WELL? OR IS IT STRICTLY FOR THE, I'M JUST CONFUSED.
LIKE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE CAN WE INCORPORATE THIS INTO OUR EVERY, EVERY DAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND, I EVENTUALLY WE'LL GET THERE AND HAVE THAT, UH, WE HAVE TO, WE'RE DEPENDENT ON THE UBER PLATFORM.
UBER PLATFORM DOESN'T HAVE THAT FOR THE UBER X AND UBER XL AND, AND ALL THOSE OTHER PRODUCTS, BUT IT IS AVAILABLE FOR WAVE.
AND AS WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE ALL THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
UM, CERTAINLY SECOND, ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING ON THIS, JERRY, I KNOW I WAS A PART OF THE TASK FORCE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROGRAM AND YOU HAVE BEEN NOTHING OTHER THAN STELLAR, CONTINUING TO TRY TO FIND WAYS TO IMPROVE THIS PROGRAM.
UM, CERTAINLY, UM, UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO GET OUR DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, AND NOW THAT, OR PERHAPS YOU WILL HAVE THAT DIRECTION AND THEN TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DOJ SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO WE ACTUALLY SPEND ANY MONEY.
SO THAT THAT'S HOW THIS PROCESS WILL WORK.
SO THEY'LL BRING BACK THE CONTRACT.
SO CERTAINLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, THE ONLY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION I PROBABLY LIKE TO HAVE, UH, WHEN THE CONTRACT IS BROUGHT BACK IS, UM, CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THOSE LOAD FEES AND THE, UH, THE TWO 50 PER FEE, UH, OR PER MILE, UM, CORRECT.
IT WAS TWO 50 PER MILE AND THEN A $12 LOAD FEE PER TRIP.
UM, COULD WE, I KNOW YOU SAID WE HAVEN'T HAD A GREAT NUMBER OF THEM, BUT COULD WE HAVE A PROJECTION BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OF WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE COST IF WE HAD THIS PROGRAM IN PLACE FROM THE BEGINNING, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE US A BALLPARK, MAYBE ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH UBER USING THE AUSTIN BASED WAVE PROGRAM, WE PAY AN ADDITIONAL $40 PER RIDE EACH WAY FOR THEIR WAVE PRODUCTS.
SO THIS WILL BE RIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT IF NOT CHEAPER.
THANK YOU, JAY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
ALRIGHT, APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
[10. Presentation of the Kyle Police Department's 2021 Annual Racial Profiling Report. ~ Jeff Barnett, Chief of Police ]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 IS OUR ANNUAL RACIAL PROFILING REPORT RECEIVED THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY LIKE FOR A PRESENTATION.SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT AND, AND BRING THAT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
[11. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor ]
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, UH, CIP ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA.GETTING A NEW MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEERED START OFF WITH THE HEROES MEMORIAL
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PARK.UH, WE'RE ABOUT 56% COMPLETION.
UH, THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE MEMORIAL HONOR WALL AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE, AS YOU CAN TELL THERE, AND THEY POURED SOME ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT.
I GO TO THE PARK, WE'RE AT 44% COMPLETE, UH, THEY'RE INSTALLING THE UTILITIES OF THE PUMP VAULT.
WHAT'D YOU SEE THERE'S THE FLOOR OF THE NEW RESTAURANT IS GOING TO BE GOING IN THERE.
UH, WE'RE JUST ABOUT WRAPPING UP THAT PROJECT.
WE'RE PROBABLY NICE TO HAVE A 98% COMPLETE.
A LAMP POST WERE INSTALLED WILL BE COMPLETED SOON.
UM, THIS LOOKS LIKE AN OLD ONE TO ME, BUT, UM, WE DID FINISH BEING PAINTING CAUSE EVEN ON THE BELL TOWER, THE FURNITURE HAS ARRIVED.
IT DID ARRIVE TODAY AND, UH, THE INSTALLING THAT OF THE NEXT WEEK AND, UH, THEY ARE FINISHING THE ELECTRICAL AND SPRINGTIME LANDSCAPING OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, WE'RE STILL ABOUT 95% COMPLETE, UH, WE'RE INSTALLING THE WASTEWATER LINES.
AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'RE GETTING THERE CLOSER TO EDWARDS DRIVE AND, UH, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET, UH, TO WORK ON IT.
RUST DRIVE WASTEWATER LINE, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION, WE'RE ABOUT 86% COMPLETE.
UH, THEY DO WATERING FACILITIES ABOUT 7% COMPLETE.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS AS, AS THEY CAN.
THE HASN'T BEEN VERY HELPFUL FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UH, THE HEADWORKS THE INPUT LINE STATION AND THE BASINS FLARE BOX REPLACED ONLINE FRIDAY.
UH, EVERYTHING'S WORKING WELL, THE BYPASS OPERATION STILL THERE JUST IN CASE WE MIGHT NEED IT FOR WHATEVER SITUATION HAPPENS THERE.
UH, WE'RE STILL HAVING THE SUPPLY CHAIN DELAYS, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THESE IMPELLERS ARE BEING MADE IN NETHERLANDS.
AND SO AS SOON AS THEY'RE SHIPPED TO HOUSTON, UH, THERE'LL BE ASSEMBLED IN THE L THE PUMPS.
UH, WE SLIPPED ON OUR DATE A LITTLE BIT.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO OPEN THAT UP IN MID APRIL TO COMPLETE THAT PART OF THE PROJECT AND THE DE-WATERING FACILITY, UH, WILL BE COMPLETING ONLINE IN AUGUST OF 2022.
AND I'VE GOT A FEW PICTURES, UH, THAT'S OVERALL PLANT SITE, UH, STILL A LOT OF WORK GOING ON THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, DO WANT TO PASS SOME PREJUDICE INTO ARCHER WESTERN.
UH, WE NEEDED TO REMOVE ONE OF THE BAR STREAMS, WOUNDED PLANTS, EXISTING PLANTS IN THE, THEY HELPED US OUT WITH THAT.
THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS YOU WHAT WE'RE GENERATING FROM THE FLOWS THAT ARE COMING INTO THE PLANT.
YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE THERE TO, TO PLEASE IN PERSON, UH, IT'S NOT ARROGANCE ODOR THERE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE FINDING IN THE, UH, BAR SCREEN.
AND A LOT OF THIS WAS USED TO BE GETTING INTO OUR PLANTS AND THAT'S WHAT WAS CAUSING US A LOT OF PROBLEMS AT THE PLANTS.
UH, SO OUR OPERATORS ARE GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS IS THE WAY IT'S WORKING RATHER THAN THE OTHER WAY, BUT IN CREEK INTERCEPTOR, THE GOOD PART ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WE DID GET ALL OUR PIPE IN, UH, THERE'S.
THERE WERE STILL CLEARING DONE SURVEYING.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET STARTED ON THE WORK LATER THIS WEEK AND, UH, CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT PROJECT AND WRAPPING IT UP, UM, WITH HOPEFULLY WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS OLD POST ROAD, UH, COUNTIES WORKING ON PATIENT, THEIR THIRD LIFT OF A BASE THERE, UH, THEY'VE ORDERED SOME PIPE FOR THE CULVER CROSSING THAT WE NEED THERE.
SO THEY'RE JUST ABOUT READY TO WRAP THAT UP WITH, UH, I WOULD SAY ANOTHER THREE TO FOUR WEEKS ON THAT ONE AND MOVE TO THE NORTH END OF THE PROJECT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.
YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT THE, UH, UH, WEBSITE.
WE DO HAVE SOME LICENSE INFORMATION, BUT YOU HAVE SOME OLD INFORMATION ON THERE.
SOME OF THE WORK WITH SAMANTHA AND CLEANING THAT UP, ELLIOT BRANCH INTERCEPTOR, YOU MAY HAVE BEEN GETTING SOME CALLS ON THIS ONE.
WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ON THIRD STREET NEAR SCOTT STREET.
SCOTT STREET IS WHERE THE 21 INCH LINE ENDS THAT WAS PLACED BY THE SUB DIVISION DEVELOPER THERE.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TYING INTO THAT, UH, 21 INCH LINE TODAY, WE HAVE AN EIGHT INCH LINE, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AN ENGINEER TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.
THAT'S THE 21 TINY TO NIGHT INCH.
SO WE'RE REPLACING THAT A EIGHT INCH WITH A 21 INCH SUMMER IMPORTER PER SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE WITH THAT PROJECT.
UH, WE'RE JUST WRAPPING UP THE PAPERWORK.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.
UH, WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH UNION PACIFIC.
UH, WE, UH, WE'RE CHARGED FOR THAT AGREEMENT, UH, FOR PLACING OUR LINE IN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THE ONE ONE-TIME CHARGE RONAN LANE, UM, ABOUT 98% COMPLETE, OH, THEY STRIPED IT TODAY.
UH, WE HAVE TO CUT THE MEDIAN TOMORROW AND GET CUT IT BACK.
UM, PRE-SCHEDULED OPEN BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.
I HAD TO REALLY PRESS A DEVELOPER TO TRY TO GET AN ANSWER ON THAT SO WE CAN GET THAT ROAD OPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS ON IT ALSO AS WELL.
SOME OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TOO.
SO, UH, WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 14.
THAT'S ANOTHER AGREEMENT WITH, UH, IN PACIFIC, UH, WHEN WE RAISED THESE CROSSINGS, UH, WE DID, UH, THAT THERE'S A DISTANCE WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THEIR, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST A CERTAIN HEIGHT ABOVE THAT MEDIAN.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING THEM $17,000 TO RAISE THE PEDESTAL SO THEY
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CAN RAISE THE ARMS TO CLEAR THAT, UH, THE, THAT REQUIRED HEIGHT THAT THEY NEED.LEON GOING BACK TO ROLAND LANE.
UM, I KNOW I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL CALLS ON THAT AND PEOPLE WERE JUST REALLY FRUSTRATED WITH IT.
SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE END OF NEXT WEEK.
UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE THOUGH DRIVING THROUGH THERE ARE THE, UH, THE CONCRETE ON THE SIDES INSTEAD OF BEING THE CURBS ARE JUST STRAIGHT OUT AND THEN THEY JUST STAND.
I JUST WORRY ABOUT A CAR HITTING THAT I'VE I FIGURED THOSE WERE HAVING LIKE A 45 CUT AT THE END OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE JUST STRAIGHT.
IT'S LIKE A PIECE OF CONCRETE SITTING THERE JUST WAITING TO GET IT, UH, KIND OF CONCERNS ME.
IS THERE A REASON WHY WE HAVE THEM LIKE THAT I'LL HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT SITUATION.
I KNEW THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE MEDIAN ONE IN THE MEETING.
AND THE, THE MEETING WAS SCARY, BUT THE CURVES ON THE SIDE ARE JUST AS SCARY AS WELL TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
SO, UH, BUT YEAH, IF WE GET THEM TO GET IT DONE, IT'D BE GREAT BECAUSE I KNOW THE RESIDENTS ARE PRETTY FRUSTRATED AND, UH, UH, HAVE BEEN VOICING THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
CAUSE THEY DRIVE BY THERE AND DON'T SEE ANYBODY WORKING THERE, SO IT REALLY FRUSTRATES THEM.
AND THEN, UM, GOING BACK TO MARY KARL HARTSON PARK, I JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, HARPER AND HIS TEAM FOR GOING OUT THERE.
WE WERE LACKING A DRAIN IN THE PARK AND THEY WENT OUT THERE AND INSTALLED IT AND IT'S GREAT.
SO THANK YOU TO PUBLIC WORKS AND HARPER APPRECIATE IT, LEON.
YOU'RE WELCOME CUSTOMER TOBY'S UH, YES.
UH, VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THE NEWS THAT A MARTINEZ LOOP IN CORTEZ STREET IS GOING TO GET WORKED ON.
I'M WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND SOME DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES TO TRY TO SPEED IT UP.
SO JUST KIND OF GOING FROM THERE AND ALSO BUNTIN CREEK, JUST, I DROVE BY THERE TODAY GOING BY LAYMEN.
I SAID GOING TO BE A STRIPING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO, OR ARE WE GOING TO LEAVE IT, UH, THE WAY IT IS GOT TO COME UP? SORRY TO MEET YOU, PUT YOU ON THE SPONSOR.
DON'T GET TOO COMFORTABLE BACK THERE.
AND I WANT TO ECHO OFF OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING ABOUT ROLLING LANE, THOSE CURBS.
HARPER WILDE OR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT YET.
I'LL TALK WITH SCOTT EGBERT AND, UH, JESSE, UM, TOMORROW WE'LL GO OVER IT.
I'M TRYING TO RECALL IF IT WAS THERE.
IF THE CENTER LINE WAS THERE IN THE PAST AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS YELLOW.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S POTHOLES AND THERE'S PROS AND CONS WITH THAT, BECAUSE IF IT'S, IF A STREETS HAVE A CERTAIN WIDTH AND YOU PUT A CINDER LINE DOWN AND THEN YOU FORCED THEM TO STAY IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA, UM, IF IT DOES HAVE A CERTAIN WIDTH AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE, BUT I JUST, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT IN THAT ASPECT.
SO I NEED TO TALK WITH THEM TOMORROW.
CAUSE THAT WAS JUST MY EXPERIENCE DRIVING THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DRIVING IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN THEY HAVE TO VEER OVER TO THE RIGHT AND MOVE OVER TO THE LEFT.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF LINES DESIGNATED TO JUST KIND OF KEEP PEOPLE IN CHECK.
AND ALSO MAYBE IN THAT SENSE, SINCE IT IS NARROW, MAYBE THEY CAN ALSO SLOW DOWN TO YES, SIR.
WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.
UM, WE PUT IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS AND UM, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
[VI. Consent Agenda ]
ALL RIGHT.UH, ONE THING I WANTED TO NOTE IS I CHANGED UP SOME OF THE, UM, ITEMS AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS, I PUT THE ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT.
IF ANYONE WISHES TO PULL THEM JUST AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, THIS IS A PRACTICE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES I WAS LOOKING AT, UH, USED.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE, UH, THAT NOTE.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS FROM CONSENT MOTIONS? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 12 THROUGH 16.
MOVE BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO, SECONDED BY COUNSELOR FLORIST, KALE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ITS ENTIRETY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[17. Public hearing on an ordinance designating a contiguous geographic area within the City of Kyle, Texas as Reinvestment Zone Number Three, for the purposes of Tax Increment Financing and creating a Board of Directors ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager ]
UH, NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE DESIGNATING A CONTIGUOUS GEOGRAPHIC AREA WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AS RE-INVESTMENT ZONE.NUMBER THREE FOR THE PURPOSES OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AND CREATION OF A BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
THE ACTUAL ITEM RE RE UH, RELATED TO THIS COMES LATER.
MR. SELLERS, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT I DO? YOU MAY COUNSEL SCOTT SELLER, CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UH, JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT TIMING.
THIS IS TERS THREE, WHICH IS, UH, JUST WEST OF THE SIX CREEKS AREA OUTSIDE OF KYLE.
UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS TO BE AWARE OF FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE.
SO THIS, YOU KNOW, THE TERS IS THE COMPANY ACCOMPANIED
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ALSO WITH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? UH, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING, MEANING THAT THE, UH, ORDINANCE FOR THE TERMS WOULD BE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING MARCH 1ST.AND THEN SECOND READING, UH, COULD BE MARCH 15TH.
THE GOAL, UH, BELIEVED FROM THE CITY AND ALL PARTIES IS TO HAVE THE, UH, ORDINANCE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY ON THE FIRST FOR CLOSING PURPOSES.
UH, THERE IS ALSO AN ILA A LITTLE LATER THIS EVENING.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, THE ILA WITH HAYES COUNTY.
THE ORDER, UH, FOR THIS ITEM WOULD BE THE ANNEXATION FIRST RATING, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
UH, THE TERM PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW TERS FIRST AND POTENTIALLY FINAL READING MARCH 1ST, THE ANNEXATION, UH, READING MARCH 1ST, THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND READING AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT MARCH 1ST IN THE ORDER.
SO IF, UH, ONE OF THOSE ITEMS DOES HAPPEN TO SLIPPED AND THE ENTIRE TIMELINE WOULD SLIP BACK TO MARCH 15TH, BUT THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SELLERS BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE? UM, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF I THEY'RE NOT SET QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, WHEN WE GET THE ORDINANCE FINALIZE, COULD YOU BE SURE THAT THE ATTACHMENT ONE IS IN THERE AS THE PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN? AND I WENT TO READ IT LAST NIGHT AND IT WASN'T IN THERE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, CAN WE GET A BETTER MAP IN HERE AS WELL? UM, IT'S BLURRY.
AND SO I TRIED TO MAKE IT BIGGER.
IT GETS IF IT'S SMALL AND I WASN'T OLD, I COULD PROBABLY SEE ALL THAT STUFF, BUT I TRIED TO MAKE IT BIGGER AND IT, UNFORTUNATELY IT FADES OUT.
SO YEAH, IF WE COULD DO THAT FOR, UM, THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, UH, ANYONE ELSE OR IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW
[18. ( First Reading ) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle,Texas for the purpose of rezoning approximately 8.32 acres of land from RetailService District ‘RS’ to Mixed-Use Development ‘MXD’ for property located atKyle Marketplace Sec. 2 Lot A & 19.48 acres of land from Retail Service District‘RS’ to Mixed-Use District ‘MXD’ for property located at Kyle Marketplace Sec.2 Block F, in Hays County, Texas. (CSW KC II, LLC. - Z-21-0089) ~ WillAtkinson, Senior Planner ]
CLOSED.UH, NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 8.3, TWO ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES TO MIXED USE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT COLUMN MARKETPLACE SECTION TWO LOT A AND 19.48 ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES TO MIXED JUICE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT COW MARKETPLACE, SECTION TWO, BLOCK F UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
AND THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. WILKINSON, WELL, I CAN SEND SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD, UH, BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE, UH, THE ZONING PETITION THAT YOU, UM, HAD JUST BROUGHT FORTH, UH, TO REZONE THE AMEX D OR A COUPLE OF PARCELS FROM RS TO MXD.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS A LONG TIME COMING.
UM, AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, BEFORE THE SECOND READ HAPPENS, WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WRAPPED UP.
AND, UM, IN SHORT, THIS, THIS ZONING DISTRICT WORKS VERY WELL.
UH, THAT VERTICAL MIXED USE IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR A WHILE.
UH, THIS IS THE CENTRAL PART OF THE CITY OF KYLE.
THERE, YOU HAVE ROADS, YOU HAVE WATER, YOU HAVE WASTEWATER, WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD RESIDENCES TO THIS AREA.
UM, A PORTION OF IT'S GOING TO BE THE ENTIRE PARCEL BEHIND THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER.
AND THEN A LITTLE OVER EIGHT ACRES IS GOING TO BE WEST OF MARKETPLACE AVENUE, BUT JUST SOUTH OF 16, 26, UM, AND STAFF WHOLEHEARTEDLY RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF IT.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, UH, BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE OBJECTIONS OR I SING THAT I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS THAT'S REMEMBER FOR SCALE? OKAY.
UM, I WAS WATCHING THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AND, UM, I, I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED HOW TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA DID NOT GET BROUGHT UP AS AN ISSUE.
UM, AND I, IT WAS, IT WAS STATED THAT OUR R THREE WAS NOT BEST USE IN THIS.
SO MY QUESTION IS IF BY ADDING JUST STORES ON THE BOTTOM MAKES IT BETTER THAN WHAT A RESTAURANT, INSTEAD OF ALL OF THAT BE BEST USE.
IT'S A QUESTION OF, DO YOU WANT TO VERTICALLY INTEGRATE, UM, AND MAKE A COMMUNITY OUT OF IT WHEN IT IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO? SO WHEN YOU PUT GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL, UM, IN A, IN A ZONING DISTRICT, IN A DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ABOVE IT, IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE, TO
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SIMPLY WALK DOWNSTAIRS, ATTEND TO THE RESTAURANTS THEY WANT TO SHOP IN THOSE DISTRICTS AS WELL, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS PEOPLE TO COME AND VISIT AS WELL.AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE PARKING FOR BOTH, UH, THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE NOW.
UM, WELL, I DON'T HAVE A METRIC IN MIND FROM, FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE.
UM, AND THIS IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIA AND KYLE AT THIS TIME.
UH, GENERALLY THOUGH VERTICAL MIXED USE TENDS TO REDUCE TRAFFIC LOAD WHEN IT JUST ALL AROUND NOW, EACH SITE IS UNIQUE, UM, WITHOUT QUESTION, BUT FROM A, FROM A TRAFFIC PATTERN STANDPOINT, THERE'S MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS TO GET IN AND OUT OF THIS GENERAL AREA WHERE THEY'RE RUN THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER, YOU HAVE 16, 26, YOU HAVE MARKETPLACES GOING SOUTH SEVERAL ACCESS POINTS OFF ON TO 35.
UM, SO TRAFFIC VENDORS CAN BE FUSED PRETTY WELL.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD SCHOOL BUSES TO THAT AS WELL, CORRECT.
I MEAN, WHERE WERE THE KIDS THAT LIVE IN THAT BUILDING THEY'LL HAVE TO BE PICKED UP.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOME SCHOOL BUSES AND THAT'S KIND OF MY CONCERN AS WELL.
ALSO AS I WAS DRIVING TODAY, UH, TO COME BACK HOME FROM AUSTIN, I PASSED, UM, THE AREA WITH THE PO POKER POKER LOGO AND THEN THE AREA RIGHT NEXT TO IT.
AND THERE WAS ALL SIGNS THAT SAID FOR LEASE.
AND SO MY CONCERN IS HOW EASY AND WHAT KIND OF TENANTS ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE IN A VERTICAL MIXED USE IF WE ALREADY HAVE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND BUILDINGS, UM, THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT ARE NOT UTILIZED CURRENTLY, THAT'S A LOT TO A LOT EXTENT.
THAT'S THE PRIVATE MARKET PERSPECTIVE.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, IN CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HA HAVE BEEN HAVING WITH, UH, THE CSW GROUP, UM, THEY, UM, OR EXCUSE ME, JLL, IF YOU WILL, UM, THEY ARE PURSUING HAVING TENANTS FILLING THE SPACES.
THEY WANT IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
UH, PEOPLE ARE EXCITED TO MOVE INTO THERE.
UM, BUT I'M SURE THAT THE POLO LOCO IN THE, IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO IT FELT EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND SO IT DOES KIND OF MAKE ME NERVOUS TO GO, UM, GIVE UP THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT WHATEVER EVERY RESIDENT CRAVES IS, A RESTAURANT OR FOOD OF HIGHER QUALITY IN THAT AREA AND BYPASS IT FOR MIXED USE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TENANTS IN THE BOTTOM, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY INCREASE THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA, IF NOT BY ADDING JUST ONE, BUT PROBABLY FIVE TO 10 SCHOOL BUSES.
UM, I KNOW THAT I'VE TORN THE OTHER CITIES.
I'VE SEEN HOW THIS PROJECT DOES REDUCE, UH, TRAFFICKING AREAS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND AS WELL, THAT WE ARE ADDING SIDEWALKS, WE STARTED ADDING SIDEWALKS AND YOU TAKE AWAY BUSES BECAUSE THERE'S A STATE CODE FOR BUSES THAT IF ARE SIDEWALKS, THAT'LL CONNECT TO A SCHOOL, BUSES WILL NOT RUN.
SO THAT'LL HELP ALLEVIATE THAT RIGHT THERE.
UM, I LEARNED THAT WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT DOING SIDEWALKS UP AND DOWN ONE 50 AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THEY MADE ME AWARE OF THAT TO BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU PUT SIDEWALKS BECAUSE YOU LOSE, UH, BUS ROUTES AS WELL.
SO JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, BUT I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD PROJECT.
IT'S GOING TO BRING, UH, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL ON THE BOTTOM.
AND ONE THING TO KEEP MINDS THAT THIS IS A COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY PURSUES, UM, BUSINESSES TO COME TO THEIR, UH, PROJECTS.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO GET THERE.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MADE CONTACT WITH COMPANY POTENTIAL COMPANIES TO COME FORWARD.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, CUSTOMER TOBY'S OKAY.
REFERENCING THE SCHOOL BOARD, THE SCHOOL BUS SITUATION.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK IT'S A TWO MILE RADIUS, CORRECT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROVIDE A TWO-MILE RADIUS FROM THE SCHOOL.
IF YOU HAVE WALKABILITY, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A SERVICES.
SO HOW FAR IS THE LOCALLY? HOW FAR IS THE NEAREST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? IS IT MORE THAN TWO MILES? NO, IT'S UNDER, IT'S UNDER, IT'S UNDER TWO MILES.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WALK TO SCHOOL FROM THE TRAIN TRACKS ALL THE WAY TO COMPLEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I'M JUST, I'M JUST PUTTING A PICTURE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOOD.
THERE'S GOING TO BE NO THERE'S SCHOOL BUSES, UH, WOULD NOT NEED TO GO THERE IF WE HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE THERE.
SO THE CHILDREN WOULD HAVE TO WALK FROM THE SIDEWALKS ACROSS THE TRACKS ALL THE WAY DOWN, JUST PAINTING THE PICTURE.
THE SECOND THING IS, IS AGAIN, UH, TO REFLECT WHAT A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR SKILL SETS.
YES, YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, OPEN SPACE AND IT IS A PRIVATE MARKET, LIKE YOU SAID OF WHO'S COMING IN, BUT AGAIN, WHERE'S THE BUSINESS PLAN FOR, WHO'S GOING TO COME INTO THESE PLACES WHO ARE THE, WHO IS THE RESTAURANTS, WHO ARE THE TENANTS.
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WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL WHEN THEY COME HERE, OBVIOUSLY.UM, BUT AGAIN, WHEN I'M WORKING AUSTIN, I DRIVE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.
I WORK IN A CERTAIN FACILITY THAT'S NEARBY.
THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE PLACES THAT DO HAVE THOSE APARTMENTS, BUT LOTS OF EMPTY SPACES ON THE BOTTOM.
UH, I'M NOT TRYING TO DETER THAT BUSINESSES WON'T BE SUCCESSFUL HERE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND WHO IS GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SPACE AND FOR HOW LONG, AND IF IT'S JUST A ROTATING BUSINESS OR ROTATING, UH, BUSINESS THAT PROVIDES SERVICES THAT, THAT, UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST NEW TO KYLE.
SO THAT'S WHY MAYBE SOME OF US ARE A LITTLE HESITANT TO, TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THIS.
I, FOR 1:00 AM REALLY EXCITED.
THIS IS OUR FIRST OFFICIAL MIXED USE PROJECT, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A GAME CHANGER FOR THE CITY.
BUT SPEAKING TO COUNCIL MEMBER TO OBS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM JLL HERE.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE ARE ANY BUSINESSES THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US THAT HAVE SIGNED LEASES, OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO WAIT UNTIL FURTHER APPROVAL, IF I MAY INTERJECT, UM, I'M NOT SURE, UM, FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN DISCUSS THE SPECIFIC BUSINESSES, BUT IT MAY BE PRUDENT TO DISCUSS, UM, HOW WELL THEY'RE ATTRACTING, UM, CLIENTS, IF THAT'S OKAY, IF YOU'RE UP FOR THAT.
UH, IT MIGHT BE BETTER JUST TO SAY THAT THE, UM, THAT THE TOTAL PROJECT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD AS PART OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND, AND IT'S, UH, AN INCENTIVIZED PROJECT.
THE COUNCIL'S BEEN BRIEFED MANY TIMES ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES, AND THERE'S PROBABLY MORE, UM, UH, END-USERS RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR MIXED USE PROJECT THAT ARE OF THAT DESIRABLE, UH, LEVEL OF RETAIL THAT WE GET THEN REALLY ANY MIXED USE PROJECT THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN KICKING AROUND UP UNTIL THIS POINT.
SO IT IS CERTAINLY ACHIEVES THAT HIGH STANDARD OF RETAIL FROM AN END-USER STANDPOINT THAT A JLL IS WELL-KNOWN FOR.
AND CERTAINLY THE TENANTS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD ARE ONES THAT WILL BE EXCITED TO SEE IT NOW.
SO, BUT SO FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE MIXED USE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE FOR MANY THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.
UH, AND THEN ALSO ACTIVATION OF THAT RETAIL WITH, UH, RESIDENTIAL ON TOP.
SO, YEAH, BUT YOU PROBABLY CAN'T SAY WHAT END USERS RIGHT NOW, CAN YOU, I CANNOT, UH, FOR, FOR, UH, BUT EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID HITS IT RIGHT ON THE BREAD.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MOTIONS, MARY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18, SECOND, A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO SECOND BY CUSTOMER AND PARSLEY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[19. [Postponed 1/18/2022] (First Reading) An ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas,annexing 201.377 acres of lane, more or less located at 1899 Six Creeks Blvd.,Hays County, including the abutting streets, roadways, and rights-of-way into thecorporate limits of the City of Kyle. (Blanco River Ranch Properties, LP - ANNX-21-0014) ~ Will Atkinson, Senior Planner ]
RIGHT.NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19, UH, DECIDED WAS ORIGINALLY POSTPONED, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING OR TWO MEETINGS TO GO FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS ANNEXING 201.377 ACRES OF LAND, MORE OR LESS LOCATED AT 18 99, 6 CREEKS BOULEVARD.
UH, AND THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING DISTRACTED.
WELL, I CAN SEE YOU'RE PLAYING FOR THE RECORD, UH, BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE THE, THE FIRST TIME WE ARE TAKING ACTION ON THE, UM, POSTPONED ANNEXATION FOR, UH, APPROXIMATELY 201 ACRES, UH, DUE WEST OF THE EXISTING SIX CREEKS PHASE ONE SUBDIVISION, UH, BEFORE YOU ON THE SCREEN IS A IMAGE OF THE PROPOSED AREA.
UM, THEY ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTING, UH, A COUPLE PORTIONS OF THE SIX CREEKS FLOORED AND, UH, ALONG WITH OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT OPEN AND CALL FORWARD.
ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
UH, ARE WE READY TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS? OKAY, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THIS ITEM WILL COME BACK FOR A SECOND READING.
SO IT'S A PART OF A, KIND OF A SERIES OF ITEMS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD.
UH, UH, THE IDEA BEING CONSUMMATING, EVERYTHING I SUPPOSE AT THE NEXT MARCH 1ST MEETING.
SO IS THERE, UM, UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM MOTIONS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 19 MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO SECONDED BY COUNSELOR ELLISON THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 19.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[20. ( First Reading ) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle,Texas for the purpose of assigning original zoning to approximately 5.13 acres ofland from ‘A’ Agriculture to ‘W’ Warehouse District for property located at 1351Bunton Creek Rd, in Hays County, Texas. (Abel and Linda Tenorio - Z-21-0093) ~ Will Atkinson, Senior Planner ]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21ST
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READING AND ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF ASSIGNING ORIGINAL ZONING TO APPROXIMATELY 5.1, THREE ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURAL TO WAREHOUSE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1351 BUTTON CREEK ROAD IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PUBLIC, UH, BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FIVE TO ZERO MR. HACKETT.
WELL, I CONSIDERED SENIOR PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.
UM, OF COURSE WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS.
UM, THE APPLICANT DID REACH OUT TO ME THIS EVENING AND THEY DO WANT TO RECOMMEND THEY REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT UNTIL THE 1ST OF MARCH FIRST MEETING AT CITY COUNCIL.
UM, IF Y'ALL WOULD, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT Y'ALL ENTERTAIN THAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT? ANY OBJECTIONS BY STAFF, UH, OBJECTIONS BY COUNSEL.
IT HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IT'LL BE A LEAVE IT OPEN KIND OF SITUATION.
UH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I'M JONATHAN CSV WITH KIMLEY-HORN REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT AND WE ARE ASKING FOR POSTPONEMENT, UM, NOTHING WITH THE APPLICATION'S GOING TO CHANGE, BUT WE JUST HAVE SOME LOOSE ENDS THAT WE WANT TO TIE UP, BUT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF Y'ALL HAVE THEM.
UM, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING MOVED BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND ABOUT COUNSELOR ELLISON'S DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[21. Consider a request for a Conditional Use Permit for the purposes of allowing a height increase for future buildings located at 24801 IH-35 (Ord. No. 1161, Sec.53-1047(12)). (Alliance Industrial Company - CUP-22-0046) ~ Will Atkinson, Senior Planner ]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.
CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PURPOSES OF ALLOWING HEIGHT INCREASE FOR FUTURE BUILDINGS LOCATED AT 24 8 0 1 I 35.
UH, THIS ITEM ALSO HAS PUBLIC HEARING WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PNC FIVE TO ZERO.
MR. ATKINSON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR ONCE AGAIN.
WE'LL I CAN SEND FOR THE RECORDS TO YOUR PLANER.
UM, BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, TO REQUEST A HEIGHT, UM, INCREASE FROM 45 FEET MAXIMUM, WHICH IS ALLOWED IN THE WAREHOUSE ON NEW DISTRICT TWO 50 FEET.
UM, BUT, UM, UH, IF YOU ALL RECALL, UH, SOMETIME LAST YEAR, UH, Y'ALL PASS ORDINANCE NUMBER 1161, WHICH GIVES A, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER, UM, LOOSENING HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, IF YOU ALL FIND IT APPROPRIATE TO DO SO.
UM, ALLIANCE INDUSTRIAL HAS COME FORTH AND TO REQUEST THAT, UH, THEY DO WANT TO TAKE, BE ABLE TO, TO ATTRACT MORE OF A MARKET SHARE FROM AN END-USER PERSPECTIVE TO DO SO.
UH, THESE BUILDINGS ARE MASSIVE AS WE ARE SEEING, COMING IN ALL AROUND THE CITY, UH, THESE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WORK WELL IN THIS CASE, WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS, UM, THEIR WALL CONSTRUCTION, THEY ARE A HUNDRED THOUSAND, 200,000 SQUARE FEET BUILDINGS.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE INTERSTATE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL A FIVE FOOT DIFFERENCE, EVEN IF YOU'RE STANDING NEXT TO IT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO TELL A FIVE FOOT DIFFERENCE.
SO STEP DOES NOT REALLY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT, UH, THEIR REQUESTS, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE A MEANINGFUL WITH IT, TO BE HONEST, UM, FROM A, FROM A SITE PERSPECTIVE, UM, THEY WILL BE PLANTING, UH, LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL, UH, TO HELP SCREEN THE, THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT ALSO FROM THE QUAIL RIDGE SUBDIVISION.
SO WE ARE TAKING THOSE INTO ACCOUNT FOR, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL.
UH, THIS ADAM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM 21, SEEING NONE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MR. ATKINSON? UH, I HAVE ONE, UM, THE, THE 45 FEET, UH, HEIGHT TO 50 FEET.
DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS BEING, UH, YOU SAID, IS THAT A PART OF THE 35 OVERLAY OR IS IT TOO FAR? THIS, UH, THE SITE IS WITHIN THE .
SO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND SOMETHING I JUST DIDN'T MENTION IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE HEIGHT, UM, REQUEST.
WE'RE ALREADY REVIEWING A SECOND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SPECIFICALLY FOR RENDERINGS AND MAKING SURE IT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE OVERLAY.
THE, THE PROJECT FROM FRONT TO BACK IS WITHIN THE 35 OVER LESS.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? I WAS, I GUESS MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK FROM THE SUPER REGIONAL NODE OR THE REGIONAL NODE THAT GOES NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO WAREHOUSES AND, UM, UH, I WOULD ASSUME PROBABLY A CONDITIONAL USE WITHIN THE COMP PLAN.
IF MEMORY SERVES WITH THE REZONING, UM, THE WAREHOUSE WAS CONDITIONAL, UM, IT PER THE COMP PLAN, UH, BUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND Y'ALL CITY COUNCIL DID PASS THAT,
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UM, THAT RE THE ZONING REQUEST.UM, I WANT TO SAY TWO YEARS AGO, UM, IF MEMORY SERVES ACCURATELY, UM, A MAJORITY OF THE SITE WAS NOT IN THE OVERLAY, A SMALL, A SLIVER OF IT WAS W ESPECIALLY RIGHT WHERE IT FLARED OUT FROM THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS, BUT THE PARTS THAT WERE IN THE I THREE OF OVERLAY FROM A MAJORITY STANDPOINT WERE UNUSABLE FROM A BUILT ENVIRONMENT STANDPOINT.
SO THEY, SO THEY WILL BE HELD TO, UH, TO THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS OF THE 35 OVERLAYS ON THE ENTIRE SITE, EVEN THOUGH ONLY A SLIVER IS WITHIN.
THEY'RE NOT SUBDIVIDING IT INTERNALLY.
IT'S ALL ONE PROJECT FROM A LOT PERSPECTIVE.
SO IF ANY PORTION OF THAT LOT FALLS WITHIN THE THREE TO FIVE OVERLAY, ALL THE BUILDINGS AND THE ENTIRE SITE HAS TO BE HELD TO THAT STANDARD.
DO WE KNOW IF THIS IS A PROPOSED TO BE A CLASS, A INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE SITE, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DEFINITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR CLASS, SAY B CLASS C, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, THE HIGHEST STANDARD FOR WHAT THEY'VE SHOWN US AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, ALLIANCE INDUSTRIAL REPRESENTATIVE SHOULD BE HERE AS WELL, OR PERHAPS NOT.
UM, BUT I HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THEM MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
THESE ARE THE ONE FROM, UH, THE PRIVATE SIDE APPLICANT WHO CAN COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON IT.
IT'S A KIND OF STATE WAREHOUSE CLASS CLASS.
SO THIS WILL BE, THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE HIGHER QUALITY, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE FOR FLOURISH.
UM, SO MY CONCERNS WERE, YOU KNOW, THE BUFFER AND THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE, AND THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT YOU ALREADY ADDRESSED.
UM, THIS LAND OWNER IS VERY THOUGHTFUL WHEN IT COMES TO THE RESIDENTS AND, AND I TRULY APPRECIATE, UM, HOW HE'S DONE THAT OVERALL.
SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.
MOTION BY CUSTOMER FORCE, KALE SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM RESERVE RIZZO.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? UH, YOU SAID, UH, THERE'LL BE ANOTHER CUP ITEM COMING FORWARD.
CAN YOU SAY THAT WHAT THAT IS ONE MORE TIME.
UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WILL REVIEW THE RENDERINGS, HOW, WHAT MATERIALS THEY USE AND THE ARCHITECTURAL FINISHES, UH, RELATED TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDINGS.
UM, BUT THE PLANNING, BUT THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES STOP WITH THEM.
UM, STAFF IS LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW IN REVIEW.
UM, SO, UM, SO WE'LL BE COORDINATING WITH THEM AND, UH, YOU GOTTA MAKE IT SHEER, FAKE IT TILL YOU MAKE IT WELL, COME ON.
UM, NOW, UH, ONE DAY WE, IT, IT, IT DOES NEED TO BE TO THAT GOLD STANDARD.
SO WHAT WE HAVE, WE MAKE A REVIEW COMMENTS.
WE MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE IT AS FAR AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO MAKE IT THE BEST PROJECT WE POSSIBLY CAN.
SO WHAT OTHER ITEMS RELATED TO THE INDUSTRIAL PARK WILL COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL? AFTER THIS ONE? JUST PROBABLY ACCEPTANCE OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
I THINK MAYBE THERE'S A TERS PROPOSAL THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL TO FUND THE IMPROVEMENTS FOR, UH, SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS LIFT STATION, ROADWAY, STREETS, ET CETERA.
SO MY QUESTION THEN MIGHT BE, WHY ARE WE APPROVING, UH, AND GRANTING EXCEPTIONS BEFORE WE'VE GOT ALL THOSE EXTRA FACTORS IN PLACE TO CONSIDER? IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY BENEFIT TO RUSHING THIS ITEM FORWARD BEFORE WE CONSIDER THE OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT AGREEMENTS RELATED TO LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS, FACADES TYPES OF BUSINESSES USE, WHICH WERE, IT'S WHERE WE GET TO HAVE OUR BIGGEST SAY THERE.
SO THAT THE ANSWER IS YES, BECAUSE THE OWNER IS PUTTING TOGETHER THEIR PACKAGE RIGHT NOW AND HAVING THE, THE HIGHER HEIGHT CEILING HEIGHT ALLOWS THEM TO TARGET A DIFFERENT MARKET.
SO THEY HAVE HAD SOME INQUIRIES FROM, FROM A COUPLE OF MANUFACTURERS THAT NEEDED THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT WITHIN THE BUILDING ITSELF.
BUT IF WE GO AHEAD AND I GUESS MY POINT IS, IF WE GO AHEAD AND GRANT THAT ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, THEY PUT IT IN THE MARKET, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BY, RIGHT.
IF THEY HAVE THE ZONING, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BY.
AND SO, UH, THE, UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE MAY BE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN A LESS FAVORABLE POSITION, IF WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THEM THE VARIANCES THAT THEY NEED TO PURSUE THEIR PROJECT PRIOR TO MAKING THE REQUESTS THAT WE WISH TO MAKE FOR IMPROVEMENT, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WITH THE TERS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE,
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ALL OPPOSED.[22. ( First Reading ) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of modifying Section 53-1230 to restrict certain uses, and amend the zoning use chart. ~ Will Atkinson, Senior Planner ]
UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.FIRST READING AT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF MODIFYING SECTION 53 DASH 1230 TO RESTRICT CERTAIN USES AND AMEND THE ZONING USE CHART.
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING P AND Z VOTED FIVE-O TO RESTRICT SELF STORAGE.
THEY VOTED 500 TO ALLOW BREW PUB AND CBD TO.
THEY VOTED FOR ONE TO DENY THE RESTRICTION OF GAS STATIONS, AND THEY VOTED FOR ONE TO DENY THE RESTRICTION FOR CAR WASHES AND BARS WITHOUT RESTAURANTS, MR. ATKINSON.
SO THIS, UH, UPDATE IS A SIGNIFICANT ONE.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF BACKGROUND ON IT, UM, COORDINATION BETWEEN STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AS THE CITY IS GROWING, WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF CERTAIN LAND USE TYPES THAT ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER TOWN.
UM, AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY BAD LAND USE TYPES.
HOWEVER, UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE, UM, AN OVER ABUNDANCE OF THEM AND WE FEEL IN MOST CASES, UM, THAT THESE LAND USE TYPES CAN BE, UM, OTHER LANDIS' TYPES CAN BE BETTER ON SITES.
SO, UM, IN THIS CASE, WE ARE WORKING TO LIMIT GAS STATIONS, UH, CAR WASHES, AND SELF STORAGE FACILITIES.
UM, WE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR LENNY STIPES THAT EMPLOY MORE PEOPLE HAVE A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE, HAVE A HIGHER INCOME.
UM, AND DON'T TAKE UP SPACE HONESTLY, ON LAND THAT WE'RE HAVING, AS IT DEVELOPS, THERE'S LESS AND LESS OF.
UM, SO WE BROUGHT THESE AMENDMENTS FORWARD.
UM, I'LL EXPLAIN, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THEM AND EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT TO THOSE, THESE POINTS IN M AND A, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR DO YOU HAVE MORE, YOU WANT TO SAY I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT IT THAT'S OKAY.
SO THE FIRST ONE WE, UH, WE, UM, STARTED WORKING THROUGH WAS LIMITING GAS STATIONS FROM A RADIAL DISTANCE AND, UM, A LOT OF HOW I DETERMINED, UM, THE DISTANCES AND WHAT HAVE YOU FOR RADIO DISTANCES? WHAT I PULLED FROM THE CITY OF WEATHERFORD, THEY'RE ONE OF THE FEW, UM, MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA OR IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT ACTUALLY DO THIS AS WELL.
AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND, UH, A SIMPLE WAY FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE USE RESTRICTIONS, BUT ALSO BE EFFECTIVE AS WELL FROM LIMITING THOSE LAND USES.
SO, UM, WHAT WE DID, UM, I STARTED, I PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF HOW MANY GAS STATIONS THAT WE HAVE EXISTING, UH, SITE PLANS THAT ARE APPROVED, AND THOSE THAT ARE IN REVIEW BECAUSE THEY ARE VESTED.
THEY ARE THE GOT IN BEFORE ANY CODE UPDATES.
SO THEY'RE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.
AND WE TRANSLATED IT TO A MAP.
WE HAD OUR GIS GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND, UM, WE, WE SAID, HEY, LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT A HALF MILE RADIUS, NO BUILD ZONE AROUND THE PROPERTY LINES, WHICH MEANS IN REALITY, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MILE GAP BETWEEN PROPERTY LINE OF PROPERTY LINE FOR FUEL STATIONS CAUSE THEY WON'T OVERLAP.
SO THIS MAP YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE, LARGELY ACCOUNTS FOR THOSE.
UM, I THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO THAT WE'VE DISCOVERED SINCE THEN THE WE DIDN'T PUT ON THERE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF GAS STATIONS.
UM, THERE IS A GENERAL IDEA THAT WE HAVE A LOT.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE A LEAKAGE STUDY THAT I BELIEVE, UM, MR. JASON CONTRA THIRD PARTY, UH, ANALYSTS THROUGH CATALYST COMMERCIAL CAN GO THROUGH IN A FEW MINUTES AS WELL.
UH, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, WE HAVE 26 GAS STATIONS, UM, THAT ARE EITHER IN REVIEW OR EXISTING OR APPROVED.
AND, UM, FOR THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, WE ONLY NEED 15.
SO, UM, NOW AT THE SAME TIME, WHILE WE'RE LIMITING GAS STATIONS, GAS STATIONS ARE NECESSARY AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WHILE WE DO WANT TO LIMIT THEM, WE WANT TO PUT IN WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL A RELEASE VALVE, UM, IN CASE FOR FUTURE GROWTH OF THE CITY.
SO WE CAN'T JUST LIVE IN THEM OUTRIGHT AND STOP LETTING THEM COME IN.
SO, UH, WHAT I DID WAS I TRIED TO GET AN IDEA ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UTILIZED TO SERVE ARE NEEDED FOR A GAS STATION TO TH TO THRIVE.
AND IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE TO 6,000 PEOPLE.
SO I JUST DID AN EASY NUMBER OF 5,000, JUST FROM A CALCULATION STANDPOINT, WHICH TRANSLATES TO ABOUT 1,666 HOMES, UH, PER GAS STATION.
AND SO, UM, THE WAY I HAVE IT WORDED IS IF FROM THE DATE OF THE ORDINANCE, IF AN ADDITIONAL 65,000 PEOPLE ESTIMATED 5,000 PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO AN AREA, A GAS STATION IS ALLOWED IF THE ZONING IS THERE.
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UM, SO WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO LIMIT IT TOO MUCH, BUT WE DO.WE DON'T WANT THEM TO TAKE UP ALL THE PRIME SPOTS AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, FROM WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THE CAR WASHES, UH, WE DID, UH, A 0.75 MILE RADIUS, UM, CAR WASHES.
UM, THEY NOT ALWAYS WHERE THEY TEND TO BE LOW END DEVELOP DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, THEY'RE A VERY SIMPLE BUSINESS MODEL AND THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, BUT ALSO THEY TAKE A PRIME REAL ESTATE AS WELL, ALONG WITH THE GAS STATIONS.
UM, WE HAVE AN OVER ABUNDANCE PER THE AVERAGE POPULATION OF CAR WASHES AS WELL.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, WE DID A MILE RADIUS WITH SELF STORAGE FACILITIES, UH, WHICH MEANS A TWO MILES SPACE BETWEEN THEM.
AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S BETTER LAND USES OUT THERE TO TAKE UP A PRIME REAL ESTATE AND TO BE BETTER FOR THE CITY.
THEN THOSE THREE LAND USES TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE CAME FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON THOSE FIRST THREE ITEMS? MY PRETEND.
SO THIS, THIS ISN'T JUST, IT'S NOT STOPPING GAS STATIONS WE'RE COMING.
W WHAT IT DOES IS MAKE ASSURING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GAS STATION ON ALL FOUR CORNERS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, OR, YOU KNOW, AN INTERSECTION, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, A GAS STATION ROW DOWN THE STREET, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU GOT GAS STATION AFTER STATION, AFTER GAS STATION, WHAT THIS DOES, IT, IT, IT ALLOWS GUESTS, PATIENTS IN THE FUTURE AS WE'RE GROWING IN CERTAIN AREAS, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN PROXIMITY TO ANOTHER GAS STATION.
UM, AND FOR ME, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY GOT A LOT OF GAS STATIONS IN PROXIMITY.
SO I GUESS WHAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD BE CONCERNED IS ABOUT PRICE COUCHING.
IF YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWING SO MANY GAS STATIONS IN THE AREA WHERE THEY RAISE THE PRICE ON IT, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW THE WAY KYLE WAS SET UP, I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
I DON'T THINK SEE THAT COMING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HONESTLY YOU SEE IT IN AUSTIN, YOU SEE IT EVERYWHERE.
EVEN WITH THE, ALL THE GAS STATIONS, THEY HAVE, SOME GAS STATIONS ARE HIGHER THAN OTHERS.
YOU KNOW? SO, UM, YEAH, I GUESS THIS IS JUST TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THIS ISN'T STOPPING GAS STATIONS FOR FUTURE USE AS JUST LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF GAS STATIONS ARE IN AN AREA.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, IF ANYBODY NEEDS GAS, THEY CAN COME RIGHT DOWN ONE 50, WE GOT ABOUT SIX GAS STATIONS, RIGHT ALONG THE WAY.
UM, AND I, I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT YOU GUYS BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.
AND I WAS EXCITED WITH THE REPORT THAT I READ.
UM, AND I WISH MAYBE WE COULD PUT THAT ONLINE SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THE OVER ABUNDANCE OF GAS STATIONS AND CAR WASHES.
WE HAVE, WE IS THIS REPORT SAYS THE DEMAND IN KYLE SHOULD BE 2.58 FACILITIES, AND WE HAVE A SURPLUS OF 6.4, TWO LOCATIONS.
THIS MEANS WE HAVE A NINE CAR WASHES.
THIS IS ALMOST TRIPLE THE NEED AT THE CITY THAT THE CITY HAS.
ADDITIONALLY, WHEN I LOOK AT THE GAS STATIONS, WHICH ALONE ON MY ROAD IS A REALLY BIG ISSUE.
UM, IT SAYS THAT THE DEMAND HERE IN KYLE IS 15 UNITS, AND WE HAVE 26.
THAT MEANS 11 EXTRA UNITS, ALMOST 73% EXTRA THAN THE CITY NEEDS.
AND, AND I I'M WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO.
THIS IS NOT STOPPING, UM, GAS STATIONS FROM COMING.
THIS IS LIMITING, AND I THINK THAT'S A SMART MOVE ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
IT DOES NOT CREATE A MONOPOLY, EVEN IF WE STOPPED RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO MONOPOLY.
UM, AND I, WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE P AND Z MEETING, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS REGARDING, UM, STORES LIKE HEB AND COSTCO.
AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT FOR THE COSTCO SITUATION.
UM, COSTCO IS IN BETWEEN TWO OTHER GAS STATIONS, WOULD THAT HAVE STOPPED COSTCO? I DON'T KNOW.
I, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THE HEB LAND THAT'S RIGHT OVER BY MY HOUSE THAT ALSO SITS BETWEEN TWO GAS STATIONS AND ONE THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT.
WITH BIG STORES LIKE HEB AND COSTCO, NOT COMING IN WITH THEIR GAS, BECAUSE WE HAVE PLENTY HERE IN KYLE.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SHOW ANY KIND OF FAVORITISM TO ANY STORES BECAUSE THEY'RE BIG OR BECAUSE, UM, WE, WE REALLY WANT THEM HERE.
I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD TREAT THEM ALL EQUALLY, WHETHER IT'S A TEXACO OR WHETHER IT'S AN HGV, UM, THESE NUMBERS A LOT, AS SOON AS I GOT THIS REPORT, I WROTE SCOTT AND I SAID, WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHANGE THIS? WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO LIMIT, TO DELIMIT IT? AND THE TRUTH IS PEOPLE DO COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THE CAR WASHES WE HAVE AND PEOPLE DO COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU READ IT ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE GAS STATIONS AND EVEN THE APARTMENTS.
LET'S BE HONEST, APARTMENTS IS A BIG ISSUE TOO.
AND SO I APPRECIATE STAFF GOING OUT, COLLECTING THIS INFORMATION AND PROVIDING IT TO US.
UM, I AM ALL FOR AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THE CARWASH AND THE GAS, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A HUGE OVERABUNDANCE OF BOTH ITEMS. OH,
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I JUST, WHEN COUNCIL MEMO, UM, FLORES SCALP BASICALLY SAY WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT NOW.UM, WHEN, WHAT, HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH A 0.5 RADIOS BETWEEN GAS STATIONS AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE MODIFIED? UM, WHAT, UM, COUNSELING OR FLORES GAIL WAS SAYING IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THAT OVER ABUNDANCE OF GAS STATIONS.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN REGARDS TO RESTRICTING THOSE? BUT, UM, WITH THE CITY GROWING THE WAY IT IS, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE LOCATED AS THAT RADIO IS GOING TO BE MODIFIED TO, OR ARE WE GOING TO ESTABLISH WORK? AND THEY BE, IS IT, OF COURSE IT'S WHETHER IT'S OWNING APPLIES.
SO FROM, UH, ASSUMING WE'RE NOT TO THE BUILD-OUT LEVEL YET WHERE THERE'S STILL ROOM, AND THERE IS STILL SOME ROOM IN THE CITY TO BUILD MORE GAS STATIONS, IT'S MOSTLY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY.
BUT, UM, SO ASSUMING WE SAW A ROOM, WHICH YOU DO, UM, I TOOK A TRIP DOWN, YOU STEP IN ONE 50.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GAS STATIONS.
AND SO WE, WE, WE DID, UH, WE THREW A COUPLE OF NUMBERS IN, WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE AT HALF A MILE? WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE AT A MILE, UH, FROM A RADIO STANDPOINT AND HALF MILE, PRETTY MUCH WITH THAT WITH A MILE GAP BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, THEY CAN'T OVERLAP PRETTY MUCH, UM, PREVENTED, UM, MORE GAS STATIONS FROM POPPING UP.
IT WAS A, IT JUST FROM AN EFFECTIVENESS STANDPOINT, IT WORKED.
SO, UM, WE WENT WITH THAT NUMBER.
IT'S, IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT, BUT WE ALSO, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, WE DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IT TOO MUCH.
SO IF THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL POPULATION THAT IS ESTIMATED TO HAVE COME INTO PLAY AT A LATER DATE, AND SOMEONE WAS TO BUILD A GAS STATION THAT APPLICANT WILL NEED TO PROVIDE PROOF OR ESTIMATED POPULATION INCREASES.
AND WE HAVE AN IDEA FROM THE CENSUS WHERE OUR AVERAGE IS THREE, A PEOPLE PER HOUSEHOLD.
SO IT MAKES IT A VERY SIMPLE EQUATION IF THEY CAN PROVE TO US.
UM, AND WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK IT AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE SUBDIVISIONS ALREADY HERE OR THIS ONE WASN'T, UM, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT IF WE DO THAT, THEY, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT THE POPULATION YOU CAN SUPPORT ANOTHER GAS STATION.
UM, WE DID NOT PUT ADDITIONAL LIMITS ON WHERE THAT EXTRA GAS STATION CAN GO CAUSE IT, WE CAN'T SEE THE FUTURE EITHER.
SO WE STOPPED IT AT, IF YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ESTIMATE OF 5,000 PEOPLE, YOU CAN BUILD ANOTHER GAS STATION.
AGAIN, WE WANTED TO KEEP IT SIMPLE.
WE WANTED TO LIMIT THEM, BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE ORDINANCE.
HERE ARE THE CONCERNS ON THAT SIDE, OVER THERE ABOUT HAVING TOO MANY CARWASH EMPTY.
IF YOU DRIVE BY THOSE CAR WASHES, THEY'RE BUSY EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT HOMES, AND I KIND OF AGREE WITH, UH, UH, ALSO, UH, COMMISSIONER GEAR ON ANOTHER PART WITH HB, UH, WHEN WE'RE BUILDING HOMES THAT DON'T HAVE THE FRONT END DRIVEWAYS, THESE PEOPLE ARE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO WASH YOUR CAR IN THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE AND ALL THESE PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS, THEY NEED PLACES TO WASH THEIR CAR, BECAUSE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT TO WHERE WE'RE LIMITING THE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE THE FRONT YARD, AND THEY HAVE THE DRIVEWAYS, THAT'S WHERE I WASH MY CAR, UH, ON THAT END.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO KEEP THEIR CARS CLEAN AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT SERVICE.
UM, BUT, UH, YESTERDAY WHEN I WATCHED THE P AND Z AND I, AND COMMISSIONER YARRA DID MAKE A GOOD POINT.
IF WE LIMIT THE CAR WASHES, SAY, EXAMPLE FOR HEB LIKE, UH, MS. FLORES, KALE WAS MENTIONING, WOULD THAT ELIMINATE THEM FROM WANTING TO CONSIDER EVEN COMING TO KYLE? BECAUSE EVEN THAT COULD BE PART OF THEIR BUSINESS PLAN AS HAVING GAS STATION, UH, HAVING A SERVICE FUEL STATION.
I LIKE TO CALL THEM FUEL STATIONS AND CAR CARWASH.
AND IF WE LIMIT THAT WOULD OTHER, UM, PLACES NOT WANT TO CONSIDER COMING TO OUR AREA OR IN A SECTION OF TOWN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MUCH NEEDED, WHAT WOULD YOUR THOUGHTS BE ON THAT? SO FROM A, FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT, AS WE ARE REQUIRING, UM, CO COMPLIANT SUBDIVISIONS, IF THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ALLEY LOADED, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT MINIMUM DRIVEWAY DEPTH TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES AND ALSO HAVE SUFFICIENT SPACE IN THE GARAGES.
AND SO, UM, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE FRONT-LOADED, THEY WILL HAVE SPACE TO PARK THEIR CARS AND BE ABLE TO WASH THEIR CARS AS WELL.
UM, FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, UM, THAT MAY BE END UP SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL DO WANT TO CONSIDER IF Y'ALL DECIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF PROJECTS THAT HAVE A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE OR LARGER, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE METRIC NEEDS TO BE, I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST.
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WE DO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A CAR WASH AND WE DO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A GAS STATION THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN AMEND THE ORDINANCE.BUT IF MY THOUGHTS ARE, IF A LARGE GROCERY STORE OR COSTCO OR SIMILAR TYPE BUSINESS WANTS TO COME IN, A MAJORITY OF THE BUSINESS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THROUGH THEIR SALES TAX AND IN THEIR BUSINESS THROUGH COMING INTO THE STORE AND PEOPLE SHOPPING AND THE CARWASH AND THE GAS STATION ARE ANCILLARY USES BY FAR.
THEY, THEY, THEY I'M SURE THEY DO PROVIDE AN INCOME TO THE, TO THAT COMPANY.
I'M NOT SAYING THEY DON'T, BUT THE BULK OF WHY THOSE COMPANIES EXIST ARE TO SELL GROCERIES OR IN ASSOCIATED ITEMS. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
NUMBER ONE, IS THIS, UH, UH, IF PASSED, THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT DENIAL, IF THEY'RE WITHIN THE ZONE OR IS IT, UH, CONDITIONALLY APPROVED, MEANING IF SOMEBODY WISHED TO, UH, PUT A GAS STATION IN WITHIN A HALF MILE OF ANOTHER GAS STATION AND THEY CAME TO PLANNING AND ZONING ARE THEY CAME TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND SAID, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
YOUR PROCESS WOULD BE TO SAY, THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS, OR IT WOULD JUST BE NO LUCK IF, UM, IF THEY CANNOT PROVE THAT THEY, THERE'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL 5,000 EXTRA PEOPLE, IF WHEN IT COMES TO A GAS STATION THAT'S BEEN ADDED, UM, THEN WE WILL TELL THEM YOU CAN'T BUILD THERE.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR IN THE CODES, SAY YES OR NO.
SO, WELL, IS THERE A, IS THERE A CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS THAT COULD BE PUT IN PLACE INSTEAD, UH, AS OPPOSED TO AN OUTRIGHT DENIAL, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER, THAT'S FINE.
THE ASPECTS OF IT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER IS WHAT ARE THE METRICS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS TO APPROVE IT? SO IN THE CASE, IT COULD BE, THE POPULATION MIGHT BE PART OF IT.
UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM A GAS STATION STANDPOINT TO ALLOW IT, WHETHER IT'S FACADE, TREATMENTS, UM, LOCATION OF THE GAS FARMS, I'M JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE ACREAGE SIZE OF SOME OF THE MOST RECENT MODERN SUBSCRIPTION-BASED CAR WASHES? LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN COMING UP H HOW BIG THAT ACREAGE IS ONE AND A HALF TO TWO ACRES.
SO, SO RELATIVELY SMALL PIECE OF PIECE OF LAND AND OR USE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT KIND OF SALES TAX THOSE PROJECTS PRODUCE? NO, SIR.
WHAT ABOUT TAXABLE VALUE? HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE TAXED? NO, SIR.
UM, I VERY STRONGLY FOR MYSELF AM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE, AS IT RELATES TO RESTRICTING GAS STATIONS AND CAR WASHES, UH, GAS STATIONS, CAR WASHES ARE CONVENIENCE, RETAIL AND SMALL PIECES OF LAND THAT ARE USED BY THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SET THE MARKET, UH, UH, COUNCILMEMBER TOBY IS, IS, IS 100% CORRECT.
THE CAR WASHES IN PARTICULAR, THE MODERN CAR WASHES THAT ARE SUBSCRIPTION-BASED, WHICH IS THE, WHAT THE DEMAND WE'RE SEEING IS, UH, ARE, ARE OVERWHELMED RIGHT NOW WITH USE.
AND I WOULD THINK IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR PEOPLE IN OUR POPULATION PARK OUTSIDE.
THE COMMUNITY IS, IS, IS SAYING A DIFFERENT STORY TO ME, UH, WHILE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT GAS STATIONS AND CAR WASHES, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I MEET, UH, ENJOY AND USE THOSE SERVICES TO KEEP THEIR CARS CLEAN.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UH, LOGICALLY HOW YOU CAN RESTRICT A CARWASH, BUT ALLOW FOR A STARBUCKS TO COME IN UNRESTRICTED BECAUSE FROM A TAXATION STANDPOINT, FROM A CONVENIENCE RETAIL TAIL STANDPOINT, FROM A JOBS STANDPOINT, UH, AND FROM A CUSTOMER DEMAND, MEANING THE MORE COFFEE SHOPS THAT ARE GOING IN RIGHT NOW, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS A LINE OUT THE DOOR.
AND SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, DRACONIAN MEASURE.
IN MY PART, I DON'T THINK THAT TELLING A GAS STATION THAT IT CAN'T GO ACROSS THE STREET, UH, WHEN THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT THAT MONEY IN AND PUT IT IN ACROSS THE STREET IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE, UH, THE REASON FOR THEM GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET, NOT ONLY TO COMPETE ON PRICE, BUT ALSO TO COMPETE ON TRAFFIC PATTERNS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO TURN IN LEFT AND THEN COME OUT LEFT AND CROSS THE INTERSECTIONS MULTIPLE TIME AND FURTHER CONGEST, UH, IT'S UH, ABOUT ALLOWING FOR PEOPLE ON THEIR NORMAL ROUTE TO HAVE THOSE CONVENIENCES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I FIRST GOT MY CAR WASHED AT A SUBSCRIPTION-BASED CARWASH MODEL, WHICH IS THE NEW ONE THAT CAME ON THE EAST SIDE OVER THERE AT NEXT TO PHILOMENA, I USED THAT CONSISTENTLY.
UH, AND THEN I MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, UH, AND I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE ACROSS THE FREEWAY DOWNTOWN DOWN ONE 50 AND AROUND IN ORDER TO USE THAT SERVICE.
I STARTED GOING TO THE ONE AT THE COLLAR, ER, WHICH WAS CLOSER WHEN IT CAME IN.
UH, NOW THERE IS A NEW ONE, EVEN CLOSER TO MY HOUSE.
MY VEHICLE IS OFF THE STREET, LESS AND LESS
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AND LESS AS IT RELATES TO CAR WASH, AND I'M ABLE TO GET IT DONE FASTER AND FASTER.AND IT'S A SERVICE THAT IS SO VALUABLE TO ME THAT I WILL SWITCH CAR WASHES IN ORDER TO GET SOMETHING CLOSER.
UH, IT'S EXACT SAME WAY WITH STARBUCKS OR COFFEE.
I GO TO THE ONE THAT IS CLOSEST, UH, IT'S THE EXACT SAME WAY WITH GAS STATIONS.
I GET GAS, WHEREVER IT IS CLOSEST.
THAT'S THE POINT OF CONVENIENCE RETAIL ON SMALL PARCELS.
SO, UH, I, OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE HAS A VOTE, BUT I JUST WANT TO TRY TO ARTICULATE MY POSITION AND WHY, UH, OTHER DISCUSSION CUSTOMER HEALTH.
YEAH, WELL, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, UH, FOR A MINUTE HERE.
I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE AN ISLAND ON AN ISLAND WITH THIS ONE.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATION AND, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERNS I'D, I'D LOVE TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE ABOUT HAVING A CONVENIENT SERVICE NEAR THEIR HOME.
YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE A WALGREENS OR SOMETHING, WOULD THERE STILL BE THAT FRUSTRATION? WHAT IS IT ABOUT A GAS PUMP THAT, YOU KNOW, CHANGES THAT, BUT, UH, EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID, YOU PUT IT SO ELOQUENTLY.
I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO TAKE UP TIME SINCE WE HAVE 37 ITEMS, BUT, UH, I'M IN AGREEMENT.
I, I MIGHT JUST ADD, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT WE, UH, WE MADE RESTRICTIONS ON, UM, UH, DEALERSHIPS AND OR BUSINESSES THAT HAVE EXTERIOR DISPLAY OF INVENTORY ALONG WE PROHIBITED THAT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T END UP WITH A, UH, AUTO ROW ESSENTIALLY, UH, HERE.
UH, AND IT WAS ARGUED AT THE TIME THAT, UH, UH, THOSE KINDS OF ESTABLISHMENTS PRODUCE VERY LITTLE TAX REVENUE.
THEY TAKE UP LARGE CHUNKS OF LAND, UH, AND ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL WENT WITH THAT.
AND WHILE I DIDN'T AGREE, EVEN WITH THAT, I UNDERSTOOD THE ARGUMENT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE CITY AND ALSO THAT IT'S A DESTINATION RETAIL, NOT A CONVENIENCE RETAIL.
SO YOU DRIVE TO WHERE YOU GET VEHICLES.
SO EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT IT, I UNDERSTOOD THE LOGIC AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC FOR SELF STORAGE AS WELL.
UM, WHILE I DO THINK PEOPLE LIKE TO GO TO SELF STORAGE CLOSELY AND WE SHARE CERTAINLY, UH, SHOULD MAKE, UH, ROOM FOR THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT IS ALSO A CONVENIENCE ITEM.
UH, IT DOES PRODUCE A VERY LOW RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND CAN HAS A POTENTIAL TO TAKE UP LARGER, UH, UH, PIECES OF LAND DOES NOT PRODUCE JOBS.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH LAND, SO I CAN SUPPORT THE PERSONALLY THE SELF STORAGE, UH, REGULATIONS, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY WE'RE SINGLING OUT GAS STATIONS AND CAR WASHES WHEN THERE ARE MANY OTHER EXAMPLES.
UM, I DON'T PERSONALLY WANT TO SEE ANY MORE MATTRESS STORES IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
I DON'T PERSONALLY WANT TO ANY MORE, UH, FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS, SO WE CAN GO DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN THE LIST, UH, GETTING VERY DRACONIAN AND MICROMANAGING OF THE MARKET.
UH, WE HAVE ZONING CATEGORIES THAT TRY TO TRY TO ALLOW FOR SPECIFIC USES IN THOSE SPECIFIC ZONINGS.
UH, AND THAT'S GENERALLY THE WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HANDLE THAT IF YOU FIT, IF YOU'RE APPLYING FOR A USE, UH, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY AND YOU FIT IN THE ZONING CATEGORY, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, PERFORM THAT USE, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT YOU DON'T.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE SORT OF SIFT.
AND THAT'S WHAT COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE ALL ABOUT.
ZONING MAPS AND ZONING CASES ARE ALL ABOUT.
SO, UH, JUST MY THOUGHTS, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY IT AGAIN, BUT A CUSTOMER FLOURISH.
UM, CAN WE, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS? AND, UM, I DO WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THINGS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND, UH, MAYBE AN EXECUTIVE POSSIBLE, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TODAY, BUT IF WE COULD JUST POSTPONE THOSE TO A LATER DATE, UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY AND EXACT DID WE NOT WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PRESENTED? W WE DID, BUT I GUESS I'M JUST NOT SURE IF YOU'RE SAYING, ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR DO YOU WANT TO POSTPONE THIS TO A LATER DATE? BOTH.
I THINK THERE IS A SUBJECT TO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT NOW, UH, LIKE, UH, EXACT WOULD BE IDEAL, BUT IF NOT AND PAGE, WELL, SHE CAN'T, I MEAN, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S COVERED UNDER EXACT, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT IF YOUR QUESTION, BUT SINCE YOU'RE NOT SAYING WHAT IT IS, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO NECESSARILY WEIGH IN.
SO, I MEAN, WE COULD, WE CAN GO INTO EXEC AND WE'LL FIND OUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO, UM, IT'S, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, PLEASE.
UH, ANY OBJECTION TO GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AND WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
YOU'LL NEED TO NOTE THAT WE'RE GOING IN UNDER THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
I WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE RELATED TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.
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ALL RIGHT.I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THERE WILL BE NO ACTION TAKEN NOW.
UM, W WE'RE GOING TO HOLD OFF ON THE GAS STATION, UH, AND CARWASH ITEMS. UM, BUT WE, I BELIEVE, I DO BELIEVE WE DO WANT TO TAKE UP THE CBD TO ITEM NOW.
SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE CBD TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS RELATED TO, UH, BREW PUBS AND CBD TO MAYOR PRO TIMBERS ON? YEAH, WE'LL, UM, I SAW THIS COME FORWARD AND, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR WHY WOULD WE EVEN CONSIDER BRINGING, UH, BARS TO CBD TO W W WHY WAS THIS BROUGHT FORWARD, I GUESS IS WHAT MY QUESTION IS WHEN ALLOWING MY THOUGHTS WHEN ALLOWING, UM, YOU COMMERCIAL USES DOWNTOWN, WE SHOULD FIND USES THAT TO HELP PROMOTE DOWNTOWN FROM A, FROM A CUSTOMER BASE, UM, AND ALLOWING A LITTLE BIT LESS RESTRICTIONS ON ALCOHOL CAN HELP WITH THAT.
NOW, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, UM, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCES RELATED TO NUISANCES, THOSE DO NEED TO BE RESPECTED AS WELL.
UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE BARS THAT DON'T HAVE TO SERVE FOOD.
CAUSE SOMETIMES, UM, THE, THE FOOD THAT IF THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SERVE FOOD, UM, IT CAN GET IN THE WAY TO SOME EXTENT FROM A, FROM A SALES PERSPECTIVE NOW, UM, REGARDING THE BREW PUBS, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ANIMAL, UM, ARE FROM OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION LAST WEEK, UH, BREW PUBS TEND TO HAVE, UH, SEEM TO BE VIEWED MORE FAVORABLY.
AND THAT, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THAT SEEMS TO BE HOLDING TRUE, UM, YOU CAN HAVE OUTDOOR DINING WITH IT.
YOU CAN MAYBE HAVE A, UH, AN OUTDOOR STAGE WITH, WITH MUSIC, MAYBE HAVE A COUPLE OF GAMES AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND ENJOY SOME FOOD AND DRINK, OR TO HANG OUT WITH SOME FRIENDS.
AND YOU CAN, IF I DARE SAY, BRING YOUR FAMILY ALONG TO, UM, SO, UM, BREW PUBS WITHOUT QUESTION IS A GOOD THING I BELIEVE FOR DOWNTOWN.
UM, I AM ALSO OKAY WITH, WITH ADDING BARS WITHOUT FOOD TO DOWNTOWN AS WELL.
UM, BUT SOMETIMES THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF NEGATIVE CONNOTATION WITH THEM.
SO WE DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, I GUESS, UH, AN EXAMPLE IS DOWN THE STREET, SEEING A BLUE SQUARE THAT HAS BARS ALL THE WAY AROUND IT, AND IT'S ONLY BUSY IN THE EVENING.
SO FOR ME ADDING A LOCATION, JUST BARS, ISN'T OKAY WITH ME BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK THE PROGRAMMING HAS ALL DAY LONG.
SO IT'S JUST THAT NIGHT AND REALLY WHAT IT DOESN'T BRING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OUR AREA IN KYLE.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE COUNSELED MEMBERS HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID, WE'D LOVE TO SEE DINING.
WE LOVE TO SEE DINING WITH, YOU KNOW, MINIS INSIDE A BAR, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK WE'RE OKAY THERE WITH JUST A STRAIGHT BAR.
I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH WOMAN TO SEE HER.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME DINING AND SOMEWHERE THEY CAN HAVE A DRINK AS WELL.
YOU KNOW? SO I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PROMOTE AS A CITY.
WHAT BREWERIES, I I'VE SEEN PLENTY OF EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY CAN BE A POSITIVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE SEEN THEM IN SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVEN FROM MY OFFICE IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, I'VE GOT A BREWERY, RIGHT.
AND I NEVER SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD ALARM ME TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT A BREWERY IN MY AREA, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S NOTHING THAT WOULD SCARE ME.
BUT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO BARS, I JUST WORRY ABOUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE PROMOTING IN THAT AREA? YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH DOWNTOWN NEAR, I MEAN, WE JUST SPENT A BEAUTIFUL, A LOT OF MONEY TO BEAUTIFY OUR PARK.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ENCOURAGE FAMILIES.
WE'RE ENCOURAGING BUSINESSES, FAMILY FRIENDLY BUSINESSES.
SO, UM, YEAH, I DON'T THINK I COULD SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS BREWERIES, I THINK I'D BE OKAY, BUT BARS HAD SKIN SUPPORT THAT, BUT THEN YOU WILL CASPER PARSLEY.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT, UM, MAYOR PRETEND RISA JUST SAID, UM, WE JUST BUILD THIS GORGEOUS PLAZA AND I'M SO HAPPY.
THERE IS A PARK IN THERE FOR KIDS, CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING AROUND FOR CHILDREN.
AND ALL I HEAR IS WE NEED PLACES THAT WE CAN BRING THE FAMILY AND THERE, THERE AREN'T ANY.
SO I WILL, I WILL, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING ANY BREW PUB OR RESTAURANTS WITHOUT, WITHOUT FOOD, SORRY, BARS WITHOUT RESTAURANTS.
UM, IT WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BREW CHILDREN.
WON'T BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE SOMEWHERE ELSE, MAYBE A GOOD LOCATION, BUT NOT FOR DOWNTOWN.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE A GOOD USE OF THE SPACE.
UM, ROUTE POPS CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DOWNTOWN IS PLACES THAT I CAN BRING MY FAMILY OVER AND MY KIDS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO IN THERE.
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A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.I'M GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
BUT, UM, THE SO P AND Z VOTED FIVE-O TO APPROVE, UH, OUR CURRENT BARS THAT WE HAVE SINCE BARS OR WATER BEING THAT THEY'RE IN CBD TOO.
UM, AND UM, SO WHAT, SO THERE THAT'S CURRENTLY, ALREADY ALLOWED.
SO CAN, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN A BAR IN A BREW PUB? ARE YOU SAYING A BAR IS ALREADY ALLOWED, BUT NOT A BREW PUB? AND YOU'RE, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS I'M AWARE AND I DON'T, IT MAKES THEIR OWN ALCOHOL BROOMFIELD MAKES THEIR OWN ALCOHOL.
THEY ALSO SERVE FOOD AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S MORE OF A FAMILY ORIENTED ATMOSPHERE.
TYPICALLY YOU CAN SIT OUTSIDE AND ENJOY A COUPLE DRINKS, EAT FOOD, PLAY SOME GAMES.
AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, OCCASIONALLY THERE'S SOME, SOME LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, UM, A BAR, UM, TYPICALLY, UNLESS YOU REQUIRE, WON'T HAVE A LOT OF FOOD, IS THE DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT JUST GENERALLY.
NOW, ARE YOU ASKING WHY ROOM ONE 11 IS THERE, I'M ASKING IF A BAR IS ALLOWED IN CBD TWO CURRENTLY, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS MOST OF THE BUSINESSES IN OUR DOWNTOWN, UH, EAST OF BURLESON THAT SELL ALCOHOL EXCLUSIVELY, OR MOST BUSINESSES JUST IN GENERALLY ARE ALREADY IN CBD TO ZONING CATEGORIES.
SO WE ALLOW, UM, LET'S SEE, WE ALLOW BARS WITH RESTAURANTS ASSOCIATED.
SO SERVING FOOD IN THE CBD TO ZONING DISTRICT.
I'M, I'M PRESUMING THAT ROOM ONE 11 SERVES FOOD.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I THINK WHAT HE'S ASKING IS WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PUB AND A BAR IF THEY BOTH SERVE FOOD AND HOW COME A PUB DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR A BAR, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A PUB AND A BAR THAT WAS SERVED FOOD, BUT A PUB DOES SERVE FOOD.
AND IT SERVES ALCOHOL NOW FROM, FROM A USE PERSPECTIVE, UM, FROM OUR ZONING PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE FROM HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT IT.
IF WE DO REQUIRE BARS TO SERVE FOOD, OR IF WE HAVE A BREW PUB, BUT A BREW PUB SPECIFICALLY PRODUCES BEER ONSITE.
IT'S A, IT'S A SMALL MINOR MANUFACTURER.
NOW, IF YOU HAVE, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET THEM ALL MIXED UP OR ANYTHING, BUT A PUB THAT SERVES FOOD IS NOT NECESSARILY A BREW PUB, RIGHT? SO A PUB THAT SERVES FOOD HUB IS A BAR, RIGHT? A BREW PUB IS A BAR THAT BRUISE AND SERVES FOOD AND HAS THE ATMOSPHERE WHERE THEY WANT TO HAVE, DOES IT HAVE TO SERVE FOOD FOR THE SIC CODE? IT SERVES FOOD.
SO ARE YOU GUYS JUST LOOKING FOR PERMISSION TO BREW THE BEER? BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'D BE THE SAME AS A BAR.
SO A MICROBREWERY, UM, ALLOWS FOR ALCOHOL TO BE PRODUCED ONSITE.
UM, AND, BUT THEY ALSO, THEY SERVE FOOD AS WELL.
SO IT IS A SMALL SCALE MANUFACTURER.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THE SCALE OF MILLER, LIGHT, OR COORS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THE CAPS FOR STATE LAW, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT THEY PRODUCE AND SELL EVERY YEAR, UM, FROM HOW MANY BARRELS, BUT IT IS SMALL SCALE.
UM, THERE'S DOWNTOWNS ACROSS THE U S A LOT OF THEM ARE IN COLORADO, HONESTLY, WHERE THEY HAVE THEM DOWNTOWN AND IN THESE VERY GORGEOUS LOOKING BUILDINGS, VERY TRADITIONAL AND THE ATMOSPHERE ATMOSPHERE THEY PRODUCE WHEN YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU ENJOY THE FACILITIES, IS THIS IS GREAT.
SO WE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TRY TO EMULATE THAT MAYOR PRO TIP.
WELL, UM, YEAH, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LIMITATION ON WHAT A BREW PUB CAN SELL TO AN INDIVIDUAL.
I DON'T THINK THEY CAN JUST GET IN THERE AND START DRINKING ALL DAY LONG.
THEY CAN ONLY HAVE A, YOU CAN ONLY SELL A LIMITED AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL PER PERSON, I THINK IS WHAT IT IS.
I REMEMBER READING IT SOMEWHERE.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OFFHAND, BUT I, FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE, I THINK ANY BUSINESS OWNER THAT SELLS ALCOHOL WITH NEEDS TO BE CAREFUL HOW MUCH ALCOHOL THEY DO SERVE TO A CUSTOMER.
AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS BEFORE ABOUT, UH, BREWERIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I WAS THINKING THAT THEY DO HAVE A LIMITATION ON WHAT THEY COULD SELL PER INDIVIDUAL.
I THINK THE LIMITATION WAS TWO DRINKS PER INDIVIDUAL.
UM, I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT, UH, I KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE BREWERIES, CAUSE I REMEMBER TALKING TO A COLLEGE BREWERS ON, SO I'D LOVE TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
I LIKE, I LIKE THE PUB I'M IN AND I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BECOME MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE DOWNTOWN IS NECESSARILY A GOOD PLACE FOR A PUB.
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ELSE THAT YOU GUYS CAN STICK MAYBE EVEN FURTHER DOWN OR I DON'T KNOW.I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD FIT THAT AREA.
UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE A REALLY TIGHT PARKING ISSUE.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WOULD PARK.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE LOUD AS FAR AS LIKE MUSIC.
UM, MY REAL CONCERN IS LIKE, IS IT, OR IS THAT GOING TO KEEP PEOPLE DOWN THERE? I MEAN, IS IT GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO KEEP A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE DOWN THERE, BUT LIKE WHEN WE HAVE THE LIGHTING OF THE TREE AND THE EVENTS IN THE PARK, I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO STAY AND LIKE SHOP OR EAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THEY CAN EAT, EAT AT A PUB, BUT YOU PROBABLY WANT TO ORDER A BEER AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ORDER LIKE WATER AND EAT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PUP HERE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO SEE IT DOWNTOWN.
SO THE RETAIL SERVICES DON'T ANY DISTRICT ALREADY ALLOWS MICROBREWERIES OR BREWPUBS IF YOU WILL.
AND SO THIS IS ONE SHIFTING IT TO THE FIRST TIME YOU SEE IT IN THE CBD T-ZONE DISTRICT IS MAKING IT JUST SLIGHTLY LESS RESTRICTIVE FROM A LOCATION STANDPOINT.
SO ANYWHERE, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR ZONING MAP, THAT'S BRIGHT RED THAT'S RETAIL SERVICES.
SO WE HAVE IT ALL OVER THE CITY.
THEY CAN BE IN THE REST OF THE CITY PRETTY MUCH BY RIGHT.
UM, FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF DRAWING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, I THINK THE RIGHT TYPE OF BREW PUB ABSOLUTELY CAN, AND IT CAN ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE EVENTS THAT HAPPEN AND DRAW PEOPLE OVER THERE AND, AND VICE VERSA.
UM, BUT ONCE WE SAY YES, IT IS NOT UP TO THE CITY TO DECIDE WHAT GOES ON, RIGHT.
THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS.
AND PART OF THAT PROCESS, ESPECIALLY FOR DOWNTOWN IS MAKING SURE THAT, UH, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PARKING AND SOMETIMES CUSTOMER, SOMETIMES DEVELOPERS, IF THEY WANT TO DEVELOP A TON, THEY DO HAVE TO COME TO Y'ALL TO, UH, REQUEST A PARKING REDUCTION AND MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH, WE MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT.
UM, THEY ALSO, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND STUFF.
WE'LL WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ARCHITECTURE IS APPROPRIATE FOR DOWNTOWN.
WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY ARCHITECTURE THAT JUST STANDS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB.
WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S ATTRACTIVE.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE, UM, WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTROL IT TO SOME EXTENT, NO MORE RED BUILDINGS.
SO IT SEEMS BASED ON THE CITY MANAGER, SINCE SOMETHING WITH BREWPUBS, IT SEEMS THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BREW PUB AND A BAR IS THAT A BREW PUB CAN, IS ALLOWED TO MANUFACTURE UP TO 10,000 BARRELS OF BREW.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
SO IF SOMEBODY SAID, I DON'T WANT TO MANUFACTURE IT ON SITE, I WANT TO ORDER IN MY MILLER LIGHTS AND OTHER DRINKS FROM DISTRIBUTORS AND SELL, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THAT AND CBD TO BUY, RIGHT? AS A USE, ALCOHOL CAN BE SOLD IN CBD TO GENERALLY FROM A, LIKE, IF YOU'RE AT, IF YOU HAVE THE CONVENIENCE STORE OR A SMALL-SCALE GROCER, THEY CAN SELL IT.
NOW YOU CAN NOT HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE A BAR WITHOUT FOOD SALES IN THE CBD TO ZONING, WHICH WOULD ALSO APPLY TO A BREW PUB.
SO A BREW PUB WITH A MAXIMUM MANUFACTURING AMOUNT OF 10,000 BARRELS WOULD HAVE, AND IT'S THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY STATED IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE FOOD, RIGHT? SO IT WOULD HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT ANY SOMEONE SELLING ALCOHOL, SUCH AS PAPA JACKS, FORMERLY ROOM ONE, 11 RENTAL HOUSE, ANY OF OUR OTHERS.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
THEY JUST NOT ALLOWED TO MANUFACTURE IT ON SITE.
SO THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS ARE WE WANTING TO ALLOW FOR MANUFACTURING? AND SO WE'RE LIMITING THE BREW PUBS AND WE'RE ALLOWING THE BARS AS FAR AS THE WAY IT SEEMS TO ME SO THAT I, I, I DIDN'T WATCH THE PNZ MEETING THAT MIGHT BE WISE TO SURMISE THAT THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WHILE I, I THINK WE AGREE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY LIMITING, UH, UH, BARS, BARS ARE STILL ALLOWED IN CBD TOO, SO I'D BE MORE INTERESTED IN RESTRICTING BARS.
UM, BUT I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTARY ABOUT BREWPUBS GENERALLY BEING OF A HIGHER CALIBER AND OPEN AND INVITING TO MORE FOLKS, BUT JUST MY THOUGHTS, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I, I, WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY IF THAT'S WHAT MOST FOLKS WILL WANT.
SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO THAT FIRST BECAUSE IF YOU WANTED TO BREAK IT DOWN YEAH.
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MAYOR, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE SECOND, ALL ALRIGHT.ITS MOTION BY CUSTOMER TOBY SECONDED BY CUSTOMER ELLISON THAT WE DENY THE, UH, ITEM, UM, A PROPOSED AMENDMENT RELATED TO BREW PUBS IN SEEDY CBD TWO.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? NO CUTS FOR ELSA.
UM, UM, I WOULD SAY, UH, CERTAINLY THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE, UH, DISCUSS, UH, BY THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS BEING RESIDENTS THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS.
BUT FOR ME RIGHT NOW, MY FOCUS IS GREATER.
UM, IN OTHER AREAS OF IMPROVING OUR DOWNTOWN AND EXPANDING OUR DOWNTOWN, UH, SERVICES AND AMENITIES THAN, THAN THIS.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT ARE UNANSWERED AND WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION FLYING AT US RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO, UH, I THINK THIS COULD CERTAINLY HAVE SOME MORE, UH, THOUGHT PROCESS TO IT BESIDES MAKING A DECISION NOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS BESIDES THE MAJOR REGION RAISING, BEING TO, UH, THERE'S OTHER AREAS TO ADDRESS FOR DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION, UM, THEN, THEN THIS PARTICULAR THING, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS I DO AGREE WITH YOU, COUNSELOR NELSON.
I DON'T THINK A BREW PUB IS GOING TO SAVE DOWNTOWN EITHER AND I I'M IN AGREEMENT.
I THINK WE ALL ARE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT WANTING TO SEE IT BE JUST MORE OVERFLOWING ALCOHOL IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA THAN IT CURRENTLY IS.
SO MAYBE PROTEST READING, UH, THROUGH THIS, UH, INFORMATION HAS GOD SENT ME, UH, ACTUALLY THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SELL, SO IT'D BE LIKE HAVING A BAR.
SO YEAH, I COULDN'T SUPPORT THAT.
SO DEFINITELY THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION, SCOTT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
NAY MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.
I DO WANT TO BRING UP A SELF STORAGE OR DO WE WANT TO WAIT ON THAT ONE FELL STORAGE WAS THE OTHER ITEM THAT RECEIVED UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.
SO LIMITING TO THE REGIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT PERSONALLY.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS, UH, RECOMMENDING TO THE DISTRICT SELF STORAGE, UH, MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND BY CUSTOMER TOBY IS THE THIRD DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
SO FOR ME, IT'S UM, BECAUSE I'M AT A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH THIS BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT, YOU KNOW, UM, ALLOWING BUSINESSES TO PUT BUSINESSES ON TOP OF BUSINESSES AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT ANOTHER ONE.
SO FOR ME, IT'S LIKE OUR, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT THE SAME BUSINESS ON ALL FOUR CORNERS? OR DO YOU WANT A MIXTURE OF BUSINESSES? I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE BROUGHT UP EARLIER WAS YOU WANT TO SAY THAT, SEE THE SAME BUSINESS ON ALL FOUR CORNERS OF SECTION.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAD BROUGHT UP EARLIER.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT AND PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE, THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE PEOPLE WERE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
THEY'RE THEY'RE OKAY WITH SEEING THAT SAME BUSINESS ON ALL FOUR QUARTERS, INSTEAD OF HAVING A MIXED USE OF BUSINESSES.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT ANOTHER BUSINESS WHEN WE'RE SAYING IT'S OKAY TO PUT THE SAME BUSINESS ON ALL FOUR CORNERS.
FOR ME, I'D LOVE TO SEE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES ON ALL FOUR CORNERS.
WHEN YOU HAVE THAT SAME AMENITY ON ALL FOUR CORNERS, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THAT IT SEEMED LIKE THAT'S WHAT THE CONSENSUS EARLIER WAS TO ALLOW THAT.
SO NOW WHY ARE WE GOING TO TACKLE THIS, UH, AND LIMIT ANOTHER BUSINESS? SO FOR ME, IT'S LIKE, MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE EITHER DO, OR WE DON'T, WE CAN'T JUDGE AND PICK ON BUSINESSES.
UH, IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW ALL THE BUSINESSES TO GO ONE WAY, WE SHOULD ALLOW THE OTHER BUSINESSES TO OPERATE AS WELL.
I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT, I MEAN, IT WAS ALL THE SAME INFORMATION IN THE REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED AND, UH, I FEEL LIKE SELF STORAGE IS PROBABLY JUST AS IMPORTANT AS A CARWASH.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, I STILL THINK THE CITY STILL HAS ENTIRELY TOO MANY.
AND SO I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF RESTRICTING THE SELF STORAGE AS WELL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THAT WHERE IT IS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING STAFF MAY BRING BACK ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS.
I MEAN, I SUPPOSE IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS FOR SELF STORAGE.
WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE WE JUST TOOK THAT VOTE, UH, FRANKLY.
BUT, UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN APPETITE TO GO BACK AND ACTUALLY NOW THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS, IT'S NOT BEING,
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UH, AND, AND, AND HAVE, SELF-STORAGE BE A PART OF THAT OR ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING THE WAY THAT IT IS STILL I'M COMFORTABLE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY COULD BRING TO ME THAT I WOULD BE LIKE, OH, OKAY.ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.
[23. Consider and possible action on four Change Orders totaling $57,456.00 for the City's Public Safety Center project to be funded from the owner's project contingency balance and to authorize the City Manager to act on all future changeorders for this project not to exceed the guaranteed maximum price agreed uponwith the construction contractor, Bartlette Cocke General Contractors. ~ David Harding, AG/CM, Inc., City of Kyle Owner's Representative ]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23 CONSIDERED POSSIBLE ACTION ON FOR CHANGE ORDERS, TOTALING $57,456 FOR THE CITY'S PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER PROJECT TO BE FUNDED FROM THE OWNER'S PROJECT CONTINGENCY BALANCE AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ACT ON ALL FUTURE CHANGE ORDERS FOR THIS PROJECT, NOT TO EXCEED THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AGREED UPON WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR BARTLETT COCKE GENERAL CONTRACTORS, UH, MR. HARDY, MAYOR COUNCIL.UH, DAVID HARDING, HECM, UH, PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
UH, SO ACTUALLY WANNA START OFF WITH SOME GOOD NEWS.
UM, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO ACTUALLY AMEND THIS BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING.
WE KIND OF MET, WE JUST MISSED OUR WINDOW.
SO I DO NEED TO AMEND THIS AGENDA ITEM.
WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IS, UH, TWO CHANGE ORDERS RATHER THAN FOUR.
UM, THERE ARE FOUR RCOS WE WERE LOOKING AT OUR CEO IS REALLY JUST ONE AND FOUR FOR A GRAND TOTAL OF NOT 57,000, BUT 27,690.
SO JUST TO BE AWARE OF THAT, UM, THE OTHER TWO, WE ARE ACTUALLY HECM TOGETHER WITH THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND THE DESIGN TEAM HAVE GONE BACK.
WE ARE ACTUALLY, WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING, REVISITING THOSE OTHER CHANGE ORDERS.
RCOS TWO AND THREE, UM, FOR POSSIBLE REDESIGN AND COST SAVINGS.
SO WE STILL WERE JUST NOT READY TO PRESENT THOSE.
WE STILL WANT TO TRY TO SAVE SOME DOLLARS THERE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
SO ONE IN FOUR IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT.
AGAIN, THE TOTAL WOULD BE 27, 6 90 FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS, UM, RCO.
AND SO BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ARE OWNER DRIVEN DECISIONS, UM, THAT WE TOTALLY SUPPORT BY THE WAY.
UM, SO RCO NUMBER ONE, UH, WOULD BE TO, UH, DEMOLISH A TRANSFORMER PAD, UH, WHERE THE MONUMENT SIGN IS GOING TO GO ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE CITY HAD A DESIRE TO PLACE THIS MONUMENT SIGN THERE.
WE HAD EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AND IT WAS DECIDED, UH, THROUGH THE CITY AND THE DESIGN TEAM THROUGH COORDINATION THAT WE WANT TO DEMO THIS TRANSFORMER PADS, THAT IT IS NOT OBSTRUCTING ANY VIEW OF THIS, UM, TO DO THAT.
SO WE, WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE.
UH, NUMBER FOUR WAS A REROUTING OF A TELECOM WIRE.
THIS WAS PUT FORTH BY MATT DAWSON.
WHO'S THE DIRECTOR OF IT WITH THE CITY.
UM, IT WAS A GREAT IDEA, ESSENTIALLY EXTENDING, UM, THE, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONDUIT FOR TELECOM, UH, TO AGAIN, TO THE NORTH WEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR FUTURE USE, WHETHER IT BE AT AND T VERIZON SPECTRUM, ET CETERA.
UM, AND WE SUPPORTED THAT DECISION AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE OUR TWO, UM, UH, CHANGE ORDERS, IF YOU WILL, UH, UH, REALLY CONTINGENCY DRAWS ON THIS PROJECT TO DATE.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS, AS YOU SAID, MAYOR IS TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE MR. SELLERS.
UH, WE FELT THAT CONTRACTUALLY, THE CITY HAS TO HAVE, UM, ON THIS GMP PROJECT, SOMEONE TO SIGN OFF ON RCOS, UM, WE FELT THE BEST PERSON IN THIS CASE WAS PROBABLY FOR SCOTT TO DO THAT.
UM, AND WE PUT IT BEFORE COUNCIL, UH, FOR YOUR DECISION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HARDING OR MR. SELLERS? COUNCILMEMBER FLOOR SCALE.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT FIRST CHANGE ORDER AGAIN? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW, OF COURSE.
SO WE HAVE A MONUMENT SIGN, UM, BASICALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFYING, HEY, THIS IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
WE WANT TO PUT THAT IN A CERTAIN AREA.
AND BASICALLY THE DECISION WAS MADE, HEY, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE BY WAY OF A TRANSFORMER PAD THAT IS ALREADY THERE PRIOR TO MOBILE MOBILIZE MOBILIZATION OF THE CONTRACTOR ON SITE.
UM, SO IT WAS, IT WAS JUST KIND OF, UH, AN EYESORE OBSTRUCTING IT, AND IT WAS DECIDED THE CITY REALLY WANTED TO PUT THE SIGN THERE AND THE DECISION WAS MADE BY THE CITY.
HEY, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND RELOCATE THIS.
SO WE WERE OKAY TO RELOCATED IT ROUGHLY AS LIKE A HUNDRED FEET, I WANT TO SAY SOUTHEAST OF THAT LOCATION, UH, TO THE NEW LOCATION.
SO THAT WAS THE MOVEMENT OF A TRANSFORMER, UH, MOVING OVER TO A TRANSFORMER CONCRETE PAD.
OF COURSE, OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, IF I COULD GET ANYWHERE FROM BARTLETT POT TO PLEASE COME ON UP AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE BUILDING.
WE'VE HAD SOME RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO ME AND THEY WANTED TO GET A UPDATE ON IT.
UH, GABRIEL URIEGAS PROJECT EXECUTIVE WITH BARTLETT COCKE.
UH, SO WE HAVE SOME EXCITING ACTIVITIES HAPPENING THIS WEEK.
UH, WE HAD OUR FIRST CONCRETE POUR OF THE FOUNDATION THIS MORNING, UH, OVER 600 YARDS, UH, ALONG WITH SOME PAVING AND A VERY EXCITING TIME.
UM, WE SHOULD SEE SOME RED IRON GOING UP, UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS WELL.
SO, UH, IT'S, UH, GONNA GET A LOT OF ATTENTION.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS I'LL BE PRAYING FOR? GOOD WEATHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE DO OUR EMOTIONS MAYER.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDERS.
SO, UH, MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE THAT WE APPROVE THAT CHANGE ORDERS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YES.
ONE IS YOUR MOTION ONLY FOR THE CHANGE ORDERS AND NOT FOR, TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER ACT.
UH, SO I WOULD JUST CLARIFY CLARITY
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ON THE MOTION AND THEN, UH, NOT A BAD WAY TO START YOUR PRESENTATION WHEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR LESS MONEY THAN IT SAYS ON THE AGENDA ITEM.SO KUDOS TO YOU GO THERE TACTICAL, UH, TO MY MOTION, TO INCLUDE THE CHANGE ORDERS AND TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE, UH, WHAT WOULD BE AUTHORIZATION, RIGHT? YEAH.
IS THAT A MEANINGFUL THE SECOND? YEAH.
UH, IT'S BEEN MOTION THAT WE PROVE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23 IN ITS ENTIRETY BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FLOOR'S COUNSELOR DISCUSSION ON THAT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[24. Consider and possible action on an agreement by and between the City of Kyle,Texas and Schaumburg & Polk, Inc. for preliminary engineering services for The Vybe trail network in the amount of $257,000. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager ]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AND SCHAUMBURG AND POLK FOR PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE VIBE TRAIL NETWORK IN THE AMOUNT OF $257,000.MR. SELLERS AND COUNSEL, IN A MOMENT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE AGAIN, ALAN ROSS, WHICH I'M GOING TO POKE, UH, FOR THE ITEM ITSELF.
THERE IS A VISUAL THAT WOULD BE PLACED UP ON THE SCREEN.
UH, I WILL PLAY STUFF ON THE SCREEN.
AS SOON AS I SIT BACK DOWN, UH, GAINESVILLE RECENTLY, YOU ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE, UH, TRAIL NETWORK AS IT RELATES TO THE BROAD, UH, TRAILS PLAN IN KYLE, UH, IN OUR PAST PRESENTATION FROM MR. ROSS, UH, I THINK WE LEANED A LITTLE TOO HEAVILY ON THE, THE WE'LL WE'LL CALL IT THE, THE HARDSCAPE OR THE, THE CONCRETE PORTION OF THE TRAIL, BUT THAT IS ONLY A PORTION OF THE TRAIL.
THE CITY'S TRAIL PLAN CONSISTS OF NOT JUST THE VIBE, WHICH IS THE 12 FOOT CONCRETE TRAIL, BUT ADDITIONALLY, NATURAL TRAIL SEGMENTS, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL SINGLE-TRACK, UH, SEGMENTS FOR, FOR BIKING.
UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS PLACED BEFORE YOU AT THE LAST MEETING WAS, UH, PREDOMINANTLY FOR EAST SIDE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, BUT REALLY LOOKING AT THE HARDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE VIBE SECTION.
UH, IT ALSO INCLUDED TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, SCOPES, WHICH WERE THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS OR THE TRAIL CROSSINGS AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS, UH, WEST OF THE INTERSTATE.
UH, WE HAVE AGREED TO PULL BOTH OF THOSE SCOPES OUT, WHICH REDUCES FEE, UH, QUITE SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S, IT'S, UH, QUITE A BIT LESS THAN IT WAS AT THE LAST MEETING.
THE, UH, PLAN AS IT IS NOW IS REALLY FROM THE INTERSTATE EAST.
AND, UH, REALLY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS FOCUS OUR ATTENTION, NOT JUST ON ONE DIF OR ONE CERTAIN TRAIL TYPE, BUT ON LOOKING AT ALL TRIAL TYPES.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE BEFORE YOU IS A, AN AGREEMENT THAT BASICALLY INCLUDES ENGINEERING FLYOVER, UH, TO LOOK AT THE AREA WHERE THE TRAIL WILL BE, UH, CONSTRUCTED.
AND WHEN I SAY TRAIL, I, I MEAN BOTH, UH, VIBE AND NATURAL TRAIL SEGMENTS, AND THEN, UH, THE PER THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PORT WE'LL COME BACK AND SHOW THAT BOTH TRAIL TYPES CAN CO-EXIST AND POTENTIALLY AGAIN, EVEN THE SINGLE TRACK TRAIL, UH, MR. ROSS IS GOING TO STAND UP AND EXPLAIN THAT FURTHER.
BUT THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, UH, ABOUT THE NATURAL TRAIL SEGMENTS, UH, NEEDS TO BE AMENDED SLIGHTLY TO INCLUDE, UH, MORE OF A FOCUS ON THE NATURAL SIDE OF THINGS, RATHER THAN JUST THE PHYSICAL SIDE OF THINGS.
SO, UH, WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE IS THAT THIS ITEM BE INCREASED BY $19,000 TO INCLUDE THE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN 30% FOR THE, UH, NATURAL SECTION.
NOW ONE, UH, AREA THAT WE WILL NEED DIRECTION AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN IS WHAT SHOULD THAT NATURAL TRAIL LOOK LIKE? UH, AGAIN, THIS WILL LOOK AT LOCATION, UH, BUT IT WILL ALSO START LOOKING AT TRAIL TYPES.
SO IS THAT A EIGHT FOOT WIDE MULTIUSE PATH, OR IS IT SOMETHING SMALLER TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, DIFFERENT RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, SUCH AS MOUNTAIN BIKING WITH THAT? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE AGAIN, ALAN ROSS WAS SCHAUMBURG AND POLK WHO CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE, UH, THE DESIGN IN 30% PER YEAR? SCOTT, WHAT DID YOU SAY THE TOTAL WAS THE TOTAL? THE TOTAL WILL BE, UH, TWO SET, 276,000.
I'M ALAN ROSS WITH SCHOMBURG AND POLK CONSULTING ENGINEERS.
UH, WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE TRAIL SYSTEMS IN KYLE, TEXAS, AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED WAS, UH, WHAT HAS BEEN REFERENCED AS THE VIBE, WHICH IS A 12 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE SECTION TRAIL.
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THAT BASICALLY CAN BE YOU BE A LOOKED AT, I THINK AS I, UH, AN ALTERNATE FORM OR ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, IT IS A, IT IS A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT ACCOMMODATES HIKERS, BIKERS ROLLERBLADERS ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GET OUT AND USE A RECREATIONAL TRAIL, BUT IT'S ALSO A TRAIL THAT CAN GET PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO B IN THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT THE MYOB IS THAT IS LIKE THE CENTRAL SPINE OF THE PLUM CREEK TRAIL SYSTEM.AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OTHER TRAILS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR.
AND SO WE'VE AMENDED THIS AGREEMENT, UH, TO LOOK AT BOTH THE NATURAL TRAILS, UH, THIS 12 FOOT WIDE MULTI-USE TRAIL THAT WE CALL THE VIBE, UH, AND THEN, UH, OTHER OTHER TYPES OF TRAILS THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED AND FITTED INTO THE CORRIDOR.
SO THE STUDY REPORT PHASE SHALL ADDRESS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PROPOSED 12 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE MULTI-USE TRAIL AND THE SYSTEM OF EXISTING TRAILS, NATURAL TRAILS, ALONE PLUM CREEK.
THE NATURAL TRAILS ARE IMPORTANT RESOURCE FOR THE CITIZENS OF KYLE AND ARE USED OFTEN THIS REPORT WILL EXAMINE THE PHYSICAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PROPOSED TRAIL AND THE NATURAL TRAIL WHERE THE TWO TRAIL SYSTEMS WILL LIKELY COINCIDE COMMON STRING CROSSINGS AND HOW THE PROPOSED CONCRETE TRAIL AND THE NATURAL TRAIL SYSTEM CAN COMPLIMENT ONE ANOTHER.
THIS REPORT WILL ADDRESS ALIGNMENTS OF THE NATURAL TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NATURAL TRAIL AND THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPROVING THE EXISTING NATURAL TRAIL TO AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE NATURAL TRAIL SECTION WITH EITHER NATURAL OR IMPROVED SERVICES, SUCH AS CRUSHED LIMESTONE BASE, DECOMPOSED, GRANITE, EMULSIFIED, DIRT, GROUND TIRE, RUBBER, OR OTHER AVAILABLE MATERIALS.
SO THE STUDY HAS BEEN AMENDED.
THE SCOPE OF WORK HAS BEEN AMENDED TO INCLUDE BOTH THE PROPOSED 12 FOOT WIDE TRAIL AND THE EXISTING NATURAL TRAILS THAT YOU HAVE THERE AND HAS BEEN EXPANDED TO LOOK AT IMPROVING THE EXISTING NATURAL TRAILS, UH, TO BECOME UP TO AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE NATURAL SECTION.
SO THERE YOU HAVE IT AMERICANIZED ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY OFF HAND, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LONG DRIVE TO GET DOWN HERE AND YOU'VE MADE THAT DRIVE A COUPLE OF TIMES AND YOU JUST, UM, DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYONE PUTS OUT THE WORK TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE COMMUNICATING WELL WITH THE BOARD AND YOU YOU'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND, UH, HERE RECENTLY, EVEN AS WE'VE KIND OF DRUG OUT THIS DECISION.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, MAY PART TIME.
UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NATURAL TRAIL, I, I SAW SOME PICTURES.
I COULDN'T FIND THEM ANYMORE IN OUR BAG OF MATERIAL, BUT I SAW SOME PICTURES OF SOME REALLY NARROW RAILS.
AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT THIS IS TEXAS WE'RE KNOWN FOR OUR RATTLESNAKES AND OUR WATERMARK IS ESPECIALLY AROUND A WATER.
AND, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A WIDE WALKING TRAIL PATH.
AND THE REASON WHY IS IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANCE, A LITTLE WARNING TO SEE WHAT'S ON THE SIDE, BUT IF YOU GOT THAT VEGETATION UP CLOSE TO YOU, YOU'RE PROBABLY ASKING FOR IT.
I LOVE, I WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE ANYTHING NARROW.
OTHER COMMENTS THAT'S WHERE ELSA.
APPRECIATE, UH, I SECOND, THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS AND YOUR COMMITMENT, AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATED THE TIME YOU GAVE US.
SO THIS PAST WEEKEND AS, UH, WHICH, UH, WHETHER IT WAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, I WAS ALL FOR IT THOUGH, BY THE WAY, I WONDER WHAT A TUFTED, I WOULD'VE GONE.
UM, BUT NO, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROCESS, THE NATURE TRAILS WERE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION THAT I WAS MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
I CERTAINLY THINK WE'RE, UH, ONTO SOMETHING, UH, LEADING EDGE WITH THAT.
BUT, UH, THE NATURE TRAIL WAS JUST AS IMPORTANT IN US CONSERVING THAT AND EXPANDING THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THAT A CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION INTO THE PLAN.
UH, WHEN WE MET THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, VERY ENTHUSIASTIC MEMBERS OF OUR PARKS BOARD, MR. JIMMY MILLER.
I DO WANT TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY.
HE DID, UH, PUT TOGETHER A SHORT PRESENTATION.
UH, IF YOU WANTED TO EITHER PRESENT THAT, OR IF YOU WANTED, WE ARE HAVING OUR JOINT PARKS BOARD MEETING ON THE 28TH, OR IF YOU JUST HAD ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE ABOUT, UH, WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT OR WHAT YOU'VE SEEN AT, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AS WELL.
AGAIN, FOR THOSE GUYS I HAVEN'T MET IN THE COUNTY, I HAVEN'T MET, MY NAME IS JIMMY MILLER.
I'M RELATIVELY NEW CAL RESIDENT.
I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST TWO YEARS.
UM, I LIVE OUT IN STAGECOACH CROSSING.
SO, UH, I CAME ON, UH, START A NEW JOB IN HOUSTON IN OCTOBER, AND HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH YOU GUYS FOR THE BOARD POSITION IN OCTOBER AS WELL.
SO I CAME HERE TO THE BOARD BECAUSE I WAS EXCITED ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS DOING WITH THE PARK SYSTEM.
AND MOSTLY BECAUSE I'M KIND OF A SELFISH GUY WHO LIKES TO RUN THOSE LITTLE TINY TRAILS AND
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WATCH OUT FOR THOSE RATTLESNAKES.SO, YOU KNOW, I CAME FROM, UM, FROM LOUISIANA TO AUSTIN TO HERE, A LOT OF US AROUND THE COMMUNITY GET IN OUR CAR.
THEN WE DRIVE 15, 20, 30, 40, 60 MINUTES TO GO RIDE OUR BIKE OR TO GO RUN.
BECAUSE THOSE OF US THAT SPEND TIME OUT IN THE DIRT, WE WANT THE SMALL TRAILS.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE ON AN EIGHT FOOT TRAIL OR 12 FOOT WIDE TRAILS.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE VIOLET CROWN TRAIL IN AUSTIN.
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS AMAZING, JUST LIKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE VIBES IS GOING TO BE AMAZING.
BUT HAVING THOSE, UM, THOSE SECTIONS WHERE YOU JUMP OFF INTO THE END OF THE DIRT IS WHAT WE REALLY LIKE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A MOUNTAIN BIKER, A HIKER OR A TRAIL RUNNER, WE DON'T WANT THE CONCRETE PATH TO BE OFF IN THE DIRT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IDEA I PUT, I PUT SOME THINGS TOGETHER.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT DURING THE JOINT SESSION, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS.
PEOPLE LIKE ME, JOSH KELLER ARE SIMILAR.
THE PEOPLE ARE HERE IN TOWN, THE OWNER OF THE CAL BIKE SHOP.
WE WANT TO VOLUNTEER OUR TIME, TALENT EFFORT, HELP DESIGN THE SINGLE TRACK TRAIL, MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE I KNOW POOR BENITO AND STACY, WHEN IT RAINS, THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OUT AND CUT A TREE.
THAT'S BEEN ON THE TRAIL FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO IS AS A COMMUNITY OF VOLUNTEERS, WE GO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT WAS WHAT I, WHAT I PUT FORTH.
AND I, AND I KNOW IF YOU DON'T GET OUT AND SEE THAT EVERY DAY, YOU LOOK AND SAY THAT TRAIL IS KIND OF SMALL.
MAYBE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE THING THAT BRINGS PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW, OUR LACK OF THIS, IT BRINGS PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE QUICK TO PUT OUR BIKE ON MY CAR AND DRIVE INTO AUSTIN OR IN THE SAND MARKETS AND RIDE.
UH, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT HERE.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THANKS FOR THE TIME.
I ASKED ME A LITTLE TIME WITH, UH, MR. ALLEN TODAY.
WE WENT AND WALKED SOME SECTIONS TOGETHER.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER A LOT.
I THINK HE HAS A GREAT VISION OF WHAT HE WANTS TO DO, AND HE HAS IT GOING ON.
I HAVE A GOOD VISION OF WHAT I WANT TO DO, AND I THINK IT'S A COMPLIMENTARY EFFORT BETWEEN THE TWO OF US AND WITH THE COUNCIL WHERE WE COULD REALLY DO SOME GOOD THINGS TOGETHER.
GOOD TO MEET ALL OF YOU FOLKS.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT JOINT SESSION.
I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK BEFORE I RELEASED THE FLOOR.
THOSE LAST FEW COMMENTS YOU SAID, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID BEFORE THAT, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS THERE.
AND SO I HOPE THAT, UH, WE CAN, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND AS WE, UH, POTENTIALLY ENGAGE HERE, UH, THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH THAT AND CONTINUE TO USE, UH, THE, THE EXPERIENCE AND INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE YOU ALL HAVE WITH TRAILS.
I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT RESIDENTS ARE WANTING TO COME AND HELP US WITH THIS INITIATIVE.
I THINK THAT'S THIS, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT.
WE'VE GOT A, UM, KYLE HOCKEY COMING UP LATER ON THE AGENDA AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
HOW AWESOME IS IT THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS WANTING TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE VARIOUS INITIATIVES? OUR CITY.
THIS MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A LEADER HERE.
I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, A NARROW TRAIL FOR BIKES AND HIKERS.
HOW DO YOU GET AROUND EACH OTHER AND A NARROW TRAIL? YEAH, IT WAS FUNNY.
I'VE DONE THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
I LIVED IN NEW MEXICO FOR AWHILE, A MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS.
SO WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE COMING YOUR WAY, YOU DON'T HAVE A WINE TRAIL WHERE YOU CAN JUST SEPARATE FROM EACH OTHER.
IT'S A, IT'S A TRAIL ETIQUETTE THING, RIGHT? YOU SEE A RUNNER, YOU SEE A CYCLIST, EVERYONE KIND OF LOSES A SIDE.
THERE'S JUST THE WAY IT WORKS.
I'LL TELL YOU A STORY TO TELL I AGREE WITH, SO LET ME TELL YOU MY STORY REAL QUICK.
SO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A BIG FIGHT UP IN AUSTIN BETWEEN RUNNERS AND BIKERS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO AVOID IF I CAN.
AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT THE BIKERS DECIDED THEY OWNED THAT ALL THE GUYS ON THEIR BIKES DECIDED THEY OWN THE TRAIL AND THE BIKERS HAD TO JUMP OUT OF THE WAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WORRY ABOUT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER UP HERE, WHEN I'M MAKING DECISIONS LIKE THIS, IT'S EASY TO BUILD SOMETHING.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF I RODE A BIKE, LIKE I USED TO BACK IN THE DAY ON THE TRAILS, I'D BE ALL FOR JUST ALL TRAILS, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BELONGS TO ALL THE RESIDENTS.
SO WE'VE GOT TO KEEP ALL THE RESIDENTS IN MIND AND MAKE SURE WE'RE JUST NOT FOCUSING ON ONE GROUP.
SO YOU THERE, THE RIZZO, ONE THING I TALKED TO ALAN ABOUT TODAY IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERS WHO, WHO ACTIVELY OUT ON THE TRAILS EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE BECOME THE STEWARDS OF THE TRAIL.
WE BECOME THE ENFORCERS OF THAT.
WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE, I TELL ALAN, WE USE THE WORD TRAIL SHAMING.
WE TRAIL SAME SLANT THAT GOES ON BROWN ON THE TRAIL, IN THE MUD, BECAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T RUN A BIKE IN THE MUD.
IF THEY YELL AT RUNNERS TO GET OUT OF THE WAY, THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS A COMMUNITY OF LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE WANT TO USE THESE FACILITIES.
WE WANT THE CITY TO USE ALL THESE FACILITIES AND WE'LL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM EVERYWHERE TO GET IN THERE AND USE THEM.
SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR JOB TO POLICE OURSELVES.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE GROUP OF PEOPLE, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
SO I UNDERSTAND I'VE HAD HEAD ON COLLISIONS WITH PEOPLE RUNNING, CYCLING, EVERYTHING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS, BUT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET OFF ON THAT TRAIL, THAT'S THE LIABILITY YOU TAKE.
YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE ARE RELATIVELY, UH, CONSCIOUS OF PEOPLE AROUND THEN.
YOU HAVE BAD ACTORS, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE BAD ACTORS AT 35 AND BURLESON ROAD.
IT JUST HAPPENS, RIGHT? SO YOU COULD HAVE AN ACTIVE GROUP.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE-MINDED.
WE WANT THESE THINGS TO BE GOOD FOR THE CITY.
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YOU KNOW, I WILL TRAIN TRAIL SHAME.AND MOST OF OUR FOLKS WILL TOO.
I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING TO VOLUNTEER.
I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT.
THE MORE THAT OF OUR COMMUNITY, THAT VOLUNTEERS THAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE.
SO THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO VOLUNTEER.
UH, WE WON'T WE'LL AGREE TO DISAGREE RIGHT NOW, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS.
UH, FOR ME, I THINK IT'S KIND OF A, BOTH AND NOT AN EITHER OR SITUATION.
SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH SCHAUMBURG AND POKE IS, IS NECESSARY.
AND I THINK THERE ARE LIKE, I DON'T LIKE BICYCLING OR SEEING BICYCLISTS ON STAGECOACH, CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PASS ANOTHER BICYCLIST, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET REAL CLOSE ON A, UH, WITH A VEHICLE GOING 50 MILES AN HOUR AND THERE'S A TON OF THEM.
AND, UH, THEY JUST DON'T COEXIST VERY WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DRIVE UP INTO AUSTIN AND HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES TO GO ON BIKING TRAILS THAT ARE CONCRETE BECAUSE I HAVE A WHOLE FAMILY, UH, WITH ME AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT SAFER, BUT IT'S IN THE WOODS AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND MAINTAINED BY VOLUNTEER GROUPS.
AND, UH, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE OFF-ROAD.
SO WHEN I SAY IT'S LIKE SURF SURF, LIKE THE MORE DIVERSITY IN OUR TRAIL NETWORK, THE, YOU KNOW, THE BETTER.
SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A TIME IN KYLE WHERE FOLKS CAN BICYCLE ALONG STREETS, UH, SAFELY, UH, AND IN AS NICE WIDE CONCRETE PATHS, UH, THAT GO THROUGH OUR LAND SAFELY AND THEN ALSO POTENTIALLY IN, YOU KNOW, TERRAIN THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.
SO ALL THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE IS HOW YOU IS, HOW YOU HANDLE IT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS FOR THIS PRESENTER? THANK YOU.
UM, SO I AM VERY EXCITED BECAUSE I BIKE AND I RUN.
AND SO I DO KNOW THAT SYSTEM OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR LEFT, ON YOUR RIGHT, WHATEVER.
BUT, UM, I DO WANNA OFFER TO VOLUNTEER WITH YOU GUYS BECAUSE I AM VERY EXCITED.
I AM ONE WHO TAKES THE BIKE TO GEORGETOWN BECAUSE I'M SO AFRAID OF CARS AND TRAILS OR WHATEVER.
THERE'S NO CARS I'M GOING TO BE THERE.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT, UM, HELP, WHATEVER YOU GUYS NEED.
I WOULD LOVE TO OWN, SHE SAID ANYBODY WANTS TO GO JOIN.
AND WE STARTED A FACEBOOK GROUP CALLED THE PIE CAPITOL TRAIL COALITION.
SO WE DID USE THE CITY MONIKER.
I'M NOT SURE WHO ASKED, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF A COOL THING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF RUNNERS ON THERE BECAUSE I WANT, AGAIN, I WANT THIS TO BE A COLLECTIVE, A COLLECTIVE GROUP OF FOLKS.
NOT VERY INCLUSIVE, JUST ME, ALTHOUGH I AM PRETTY SELFISH AND ALL ABOUT ME.
I DO REALLY WANT TO GET THE OTHER OUT TOO.
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU GUYS AGAIN.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26, BUT TO INCREASE THE SCOPE, UH, TO, TO, UH, OF SERVICES TO EQUAL $276,000 AND INCORPORATE THE SCOPE, UH, AS PRESENTED A MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT DRILLS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.
[25. Consider and possible action on an agreement by and between the City of Kyle,Texas and Burgess & Niple, Inc., for the completion and submission of the ProjectInformation Form (PIF) to the Texas Water Development Board Clean Water –SRF Financial Assistance for the Wastewater Treatment Plant Improvements project . ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer ]
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AND BURGESS AND NIPPLE FOR THE COMPLETION AND SUBMISSION OF THE PROJECT INFORMATION FORM TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, CLEAN WATER, MR. BARBARA, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER KIND OF FEEL BAD WITH OUR PROJECT BETWEEN THESE TWO GREAT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE GOT IN FRONT OF SAM BEHIND US.UM, BUT ANYWAY, UH, WITH ME TODAY IS, UH, KELLAN HURST.
HE'S THE DISTRICT DIRECTOR FOR BURGESS.
AND SO I WANTED HIM TO EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM THAT, UH, TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS.
IT'S THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND, LOW INTEREST LOANS FOR WATER WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO START FUNDING.
UH, GRANTED THERE'S, THERE'S MY GRAPH.
LET ME, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A BIT OF BACKGROUND AS YOU, AS YOU KNOW, A CURRENT PLANT IS, UH, AT THREE MGD, 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TRADING.
AND WITH THESE LATEST IMPROVEMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING UP TO FOUR AND A HALF MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
SO WE'LL BE AT A, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED BY THE PERMIT THAT WE HAVE AT TCEQ.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ANOTHER FROM CPN, WHY THEY'RE WORKING ON, UH, GETTING WITH TCEQ AND THE STAKEHOLDERS RE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ASK TCEQ TO, UH, APPROVE THE PERMIT, TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY UP TO 9 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, AND EVEN POSSIBLY UP TO 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
UH, ONCE YOU TO SEE THIS GRAPH, THIS IS A BE PART OF THEIR REQUESTS TO TCEQ.
IF YOU CAN SEE THE GRAPH THERE, IT SHOWS, I THINK BY THE YEAR 2024, WE WILL BE AT FOUR AND A HALF.
COUNCIL, UH, THEORETICALLY, WHEN YOU HIT ABOUT 75% OF YOUR CAPACITY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON YOUR DESIGN.
AND, UM, I THINK BY THE YEAR 20,
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CAN'T SEE THAT WELL, 20 30TH THINK WE'LL BE AT NINE FROM WHAT I CAN TELL.UH, SO WE NEED TO START OUR PLANNING.
WE NEED TO START FINDING THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I SAID, WE HAVE A GREAT PROJECT GOING ON NOW.
IT'S GOING TO BE WRAPPED UP SOON.
SO, UH, WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT PROJECT, BUT THE FACT IS WE ARE GROWING EXPONENTIALLY.
WE'RE JUST EXPANDING LIKE CRAZY.
AS I'VE TOLD SEVERAL PEOPLE BEFORE THEY CALL ME, WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON.
ALL I CAN TELL THEM IT'S EXPLODING AND IT'S GOING TO GET SWAYED WAY.
AS SOON AS WE FINISH OUR SEWER LINES, IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN WORSE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES WANTING TO TIE TO OUR SEWER LINES.
UH, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO KEVIN AND LET HIM KIND OF EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT THIS AGREEMENT IS ALL ABOUT AND HOW IT'S WORKED.
IT'S GOING TO WORK THE DAMIAN MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, KAELIN HEARSE WITH BURGESS AND NICKEL AND WITH THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN, PERMITS PROJECTS COMING UP IN THE FUTURE.
UH, THERE ARE FUNDING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, VERY, UH, CITY, UH, FRIENDLY FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARDS CLEAN WATER SRF WOUND PROGRAM COMES INTO PLAY.
AND ESSENTIALLY THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO ACT ON.
AND THE FIRST ONE IS BASICALLY THROWING YOUR HAT IN THE RING SAYING WE WANT TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS MONEY.
AND THAT'S THE PROJECT INFORMATION FORM THAT IS TYPICALLY DUE MARCH 1ST, THIS YEAR IT'S DUE MARCH 4TH.
SO, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO, UM, PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND DO THAT AT NO COST AND ASSUMING EVERYTHING WORKS OUT WELL, UH, IT TYPICALLY TAKES ABOUT TWO MONTHS FOR THE T WDB TO REVIEW ALL THE FORMS THAT THE PIFF IS BASICALLY JUST A GENERAL INFO FORM.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT DO YOU WANTING TO USE THE MONEY FOR? AND THEN MAYBE MAY JUNE-ISH AREA.
THEY SEND OUT A DRAFT INTENDED USE PLAN, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY, UH, PROVIDE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANT TO USE ALL THEIR FUNDS FOR.
AND THEY OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS, AND THEN THEY PROVIDE THE FINAL INTENDED USE PLAN IN AUGUST.
AND AT THAT POINT, IF THE CITY WANTS TO USE, IF THE, IF THE CITY IS SELECTED FOR FUNDS AND DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN AT THAT POINT, THERE'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS.
IT'S A VERY, UM, MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT, UH, IMPACT IN TERMS OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS WITH, UH, DEVELOPING THE TIMELINE, THE SCHEDULE, THE, OR THE, UH, COST ESTIMATES, THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS, THE FINANCIAL AND LEGAL ASPECTS TO THE PROJECT.
AND THEN, UM, IF ALL GOES WELL, THEN, THEN YOU CLOSE DECEMBER, JANUARY.
AND, UH, THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR PRESENTER? UH, MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT SWIFT LOANS FOR WATER PROJECTS AND WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, UM, UH, INTERACTIONS IS THE BETTER, MORE FAVORABLE TERMS THAT CITIES OFTEN GET.
IT CAN BE SOMETIMES THE MOST COMPETITIVE INTEREST RATES THAT ANYONE CAN GET ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW, NOT ALWAYS, BUT THAT'S, UH, THAT MAKES IT MORE AFFORDABLE, UH, BORROW, BORROWING MONEY ON, ON WATER.
WASTEWATER PROJECTS IS ALMOST ALWAYS THE APPROPRIATE SOLUTION BECAUSE IT AMORTIZES, UH, THE COSTS INTO THE FUTURE.
SO, AND THE FUTURE IS THE REASON THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO COME UP WITH A PROJECT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND IT, IF LOW INTEREST CAN ALSO KEEP AND AVOID THOSE HIGHER FEES THAT MAY HAVE TO BE EMPLOYED FOR USING OTHER METHODS.
SO, UH, FULLY SUPPORTING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS, MARY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25.
MOTION BY MY PRO TIM RIZZO, SECOND, A BAD COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE CALLAWAY APPROVED AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[26. Consider and possible action to approve an agreement between KYLE HOCKEY and the City of Kyle for usage of the Ash Pavilion for youth and adult hockey programs. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation The Park and Recreation Board voted 7-0 to recommend approval ofthe agreement between KYLE HOCKEY and the City of Kyle for usage of the Ash Pavilion for youth and adult hockey programs. ]
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN KYLE HOCKEY AND THE CITY OF COL FOR USES OF THE ASH PAVILION FOR YOUTH AND ADULT HOCKEY PROGRAMS. UH, THIS ITEM IS, UH, MS. MARIANNA ESPINOSA, AND I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S GOING TO PASS.SHE BROUGHT IN THE BIG GUNS, SAYS SUPPORT.
I SEE OVER THERE WITH THE CRANE FAMILY.
SO, ALL RIGHT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MARIANNA SPINOZA PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, JUST OVER FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO, ASH CRANE WHO GRACE US WITH HIS PRESENCE THIS EVENING, UH, MADE IT WISH TO THE MAKE-A-WISH FOUNDATION FOR A HOCKEY RINK WHERE HE COULD PRACTICE HIS LOVE AND JOY OF PLAYING HOCKEY.
AND THEY MAKE A WISH FOUNDATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, PROVED THAT BUILDING OF THE ASH PAVILION IN NOVEMBER OF 2018, WE HAD THE RIBBON CUTTING OF THE ASH PAVILION IN OCTOBER OF 2020.
SO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE CRANE FAMILY, ALONG WITH OTHER COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, I'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD SPENDING
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COUNTLESS HOURS, TRYING TO BUILD A HOCKEY PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.AND THEY ARE NOW TO A POINT WHERE THEY HAD KIDS SUCCESSFULLY MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTING NEW YOUTH AND ADULT HOCKEY PROGRAMS, LEAGUES, AND TOURNAMENTS.
AND WE HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CRANES WHO HAVE FORMED A NONPROFIT CALLED TITLE HOCKEY, UM, ON REACHED AN AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY STAFF AND KYLE HOCKEY, UM, WOULD BE HAPPY WITH.
AND SO THE AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU IS TO PARTNER OR TO, UM, FORM AN AGREEMENT WITH THE KYLE HOCKEY PROGRAM TO ALLOW THEM TO USE THE, TO UTILIZE THE ASH PAVILION, UH, FOUR NIGHTS A WEEK FROM SIX TO 10:00 PM.
AND ON SATURDAY MORNINGS, UM, DURING THE YEAR FOR HOCKEY LEAGUES, YOUTH AND ADULT HOCKEY PROGRAMS, THE ASH PAVILION WOULD STILL BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC PROBABLY ON THE TIMES WHEN IT'S NOT BEING USED.
SO THAT'S ALL DAY LONG, UM, DURING THE DAY AND ALSO ON SUNDAYS, UM, THE KYLE HOCKEY DOES UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THE CITY HAS SPECIAL EVENTS OR PROGRAMS, UM, THAT WITH ENOUGH NOTICE IN ADVANCE THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE COLLEGE HOCKEY, THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE CITY AT ALL TIMES.
UM, LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THESE NOTES HERE.
UM, THE KYLE HOCKEY, THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR AGREEMENT TO WHAT THE CITY ENTERED IN WITH.
KYLE HOCKEY WILL SUBMIT MONTHLY REPORTS.
UM, WE WILL WORK WITH KYLE HOCKEY IN GETTING LISTS OF MAYBE NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS.
I ASH PAVILION, BUT ALL FINAL IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE CITY.
AND WHEN KYLE HOCKEY IS NOT USING THE ASH PAVILION, UM, WE, AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING AND GIVE THEM FAR ADVANCED NOTICE.
UM, KYLE HOCKEY WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE LIGHTS TO BE RETURNED ON AND OFF THE LIGHTS, AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO USE A SCOREBOARD.
THEY WILL PRESENT THEIR LIABILITY INSURANCE AND THEY WILL HELP KEEP THE PARK CLEAN AND MAKING SURE EVERYONE PARKS IN THE PARKING LOTS AND NOT ON THE GRASS.
UM, AND I HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM KYLE HOCKEY HERE, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS FOR ASH.
UM, SO I KIND OF TEASED THIS ONE EARLIER, BUT, UH, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
I CERTAINLY LISTENED TO DISCUSSION AT THE PARKS BOARD.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WHEN WE GET INTO THIS OFFICE, WE DON'T EXPECT TO BE A PART OF, WE DON'T EXPECT TO BE A DECISION MAKER IN A PANDEMIC.
WE DON'T EXPECT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME OUR WAY, BUT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT IT FITS IN THAT CATEGORY.
AND I NEVER THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE A PART OF A B YOU'RE JUST A SMALL PART OF A MAKE-A-WISH.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT SUCH AN UNSELFISH WISH, UH, WAS SO INSPIRING TO ME WHEN THIS CAME ABOUT HOW LONG AGO WAS THIS NOW, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS 2018, 2018.
AND SO, UM, SO THIS IS EXCITING TO HAVE, UH, HAD IT BUILT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE WISH WAS TO SHARE THE LOVE OF HOCKEY WITH KYLE AND YOU CAN'T SHARE THAT LOVE IF THERE'S NO HOCKEY GOING ON.
SO, UH, THE EXCITING THING IS THAT WE HAVE VERY CAPABLE PEOPLE TO PROGRAM IT AND DO WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THAT I HAD THE HONOR, UH, LATE LAST YEAR TO GO AND SEE ONE OF THE, THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES, VERY EXCITING STUFF.
IF YOU EVER GET A CHANCE TO GO SEE THAT HOCKEY IS A EXCITING SPORT TO SEE IN PERSON, UM, BUT PARTICULARLY AT ASH PAVILION.
UH, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, I DO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
IT'S MOTION BY COUNSELOR ELLISON, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FOR SCALE THAT WE APPROVE JEN ITEM NUMBER 26.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MAYBE CONTENT? YEAH.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, HOW IMPORTANT IS IS TO OUR CITY THE OTHER DAY I WAS THERE, MY DAUGHTER SHOOTING BASKETS IN THE ASH PAVILION.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE WAS A FATHER TEACHING HIS TWO SONS OUT TO PLAY HOCKEY.
AND ON THE SIDE THERE WAS A KID ON A SKATEBOARD.
THIS IS A GREAT MAKE-A-WISH AND, UM, IT'S GONNA BE THERE FOR THE FAMILIES FOR YEARS TO COME.
AND I STILL HAVE YOUR, UH, SPORTS CARD.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT TO CUSTOMER FIRST CARE.
UM, I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR THE AGREEMENT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS UPLOADED TODAY.
AND NEXT TIME I, I THOUGHT I UPLOADED IT IN MY HEAD TO THE AGENDA AND I'M SCROLLING THROUGH IT TODAY AND REALIZED I WAS NOT THERE.
AND THANK YOU TO ASHES PARENTS AND YOU GUYS ARE SO SUPPORTIVE AND SO GREAT.
AND, UM, THERE WAS A TEAM IN MOLINE, ILLINOIS, AND THEY WERE THE MIGHTY DUCKS.
SO I'VE SEEN A FEW, UM, I MEAN, I JUST WENT THERE JUST TO EAT AND WATCH, NOT REALLY WATCH THE GAME, WATCH THE FIGHTS.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY BIG UP NORTH TO COME DOWN NEXT.
WE NEED TO GET WRESTLING SOMEHOW INTO HERE.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, ASH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.
CAUSE WE GOT MORE ITEMS THOUGH.
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HAVE YOU BEEN, HAVE YOU BEEN GETTING TO PLAY HOCKEY AND HAVE YOU BEEN ENJOYING IT? YES, I HAVE.GLAD TO HEAR ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE THERE? UM, I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT IT'S BEEN GROWING A LOT, LIKE LAST SEASON WE HAVE TWO TEAMS AND NOW WE JUST START TWO MORE.
SO NOW WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE TO PLAY WITH.
WELL, IT'S WAY PAST YOUR BEDTIME.
SO, UH, SO, UH, YOU JUST GOT DONE WITH HOCKEY.
WELL, DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? DASH.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[27. Consider and possible action on an interlocal agreement by and between the Cityof Kyle, Texas, and Hays County regarding participation in in Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number Three. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager ]
DID NOT ITEM NUMBER 27 CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BY IN BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AND HAYES COUNTY REGARDING PARTICIPATION IN TAX INCREMENT, REINVESTMENT ZONE.NUMBER THREE, I LOVE THE RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE, WE WANT TO POSTPONE THIS ONE.
WELL, WE, UH, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A BACKUP ITEM ON THIS ONE.
SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AS AN UPDATE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENT THERE.
RIGHT? THE HAYES COUNTY HAS CONSIDERED THE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR PARTICIPATION IN CHURCH.
THIS WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING YOU HAD ON THE AGENDA EARLIER TONIGHT.
UM, HAD THEY APPROVED IT, UH, SUBJECT TO THE, UH, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FILLING IN SOME INFORMATION THAT HE STILL NEEDS TO GET FROM US ON THE, UH, THE ORDINANCE.
AND SO WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THAT.
HE'S AWARE OF OUR COMMENTS ON IT.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE TO GET THAT, UH, FINALIZED WITH HIM.
HE'S AWARE OF OUR ITEMS THAT WE NEEDED.
THIS IS SET UP SIMILAR TO THE, UH, TOURISM NUMBER TWO IN THAT THE COUNTY HAS TWO BOARD REPRESENTATIVES, UM, AND WOULD FUNCTION SIMILARLY TO TERTIARY.
NUMBER TWO, IN THAT REGARD, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BASED ON THE ITEM AT THIS POINT, I CAN ANSWER THEM OTHERWISE WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR, OKAY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR PAIGE AT THIS POINT? ALRIGHT.
WE'LL UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
[28. Consider and possible action to adopt a Boards and Commissions Policies and Procedures. ~ James R. Earp, Assistant City Manager ]
RIGHT.NEXT STEP, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
MR. MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, JAMES ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
UM, SO IT FELL TO ME TO TRY TO SYNTHESIZE THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAPPENING ON SUNDAY.
UM, UH, LAST SUNDAY, ACTUALLY, UH, ABOUT, UH, THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL AND HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, APPOINTING FOLKS, THE PROCESSES AND THE PROCEDURES OF APPOINTING FOLKS, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES.
SO WHAT I DID WAS I TOOK, I TOOK, UM, I TOOK ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS AND I DID MY BEST TO SYNTHESIZE THEM INTO SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS A, IS A WORKABLE SOLUTION AT LEAST TO START WITH, UM, COMPLETED THAT THIS WEEKEND, UH, AND SHOULD HAVE GOT SENT AROUND TO YOU ALL TO BUILD A, TO READ AND TO DIGEST A LITTLE BIT, AT LEAST, UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, AS I WAS WORKING THROUGH IT, I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE WHAT THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE WOULD BE AS FAR AS, UH, DEALING WITH MIDTERM, UH, VACANCIES THAT MAY HAPPEN OUTSIDE OF WHAT A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME WOULD BE TO GET THROUGH THE, THE JULY, THE JUNE TO JULY.
SO I DID CREATE SOME ALTERNATIVE LANGUAGE THAT Y'ALL COULD CONSIDER, UH, IN YOUR POLICY OR GIVE FEEDBACK ON.
UM, I, I DID SET IT UP TO WHERE ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS WOULD COME THROUGH IN THE WINDOW OF, UH, JUNE 1ST TO JULY 31ST.
UH, AND THEN THE COUNCIL WOULD CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, SO THAT DOESN'T PUT IT AT A PARTICULAR DATE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IT BY THAT DATE.
UH, AND THEN THAT THE, UH, FOLKS WOULD BE EXPECTED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ATTEND, UH, THAT SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
AND THEN THE COUNCIL COULD DEAL WITH IT, UH, IN THE, IN THE WAY THAT Y'ALL HAD DESCRIBED, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A NOMINATION PROCESS, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER ABLE TO NOMINATE AND THEN VOTES TAKEN.
UM, IT BECAME APPARENT TO ME THAT THERE MIGHT BE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU STILL HAVE A POOL OF CANDIDATES WHO ARE ELIGIBLE THAT MAY NOT GET APPOINTED.
UM, AND, AND NOT BECAUSE THE COUNCIL ISN'T WILLING TO APPOINT NUMB, BUT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S MORE INTEREST THAN THERE ARE SEATS.
SO, UH, HOW THOSE, UH, THE TENURE OR HOW LONG THOSE AGE, UH, SHOULD PROBABLY BE CONSIDERED.
UH, AND THEN, UM, ALSO IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF, OF TIE.
SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE, UH, MULTIPLE NOMINATIONS AND YOU TAKE A VOTE AND THEN THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW, FOUR VOTES, AND THEN YOU VOTE FOR THE NEXT ONE AND THERE'S FOUR VOTES AND YOU VOTE FOR THE NEXT ONE.
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THREE.WELL THEN HOW DO YOU SEPARATE TWO WHO RECEIVED THE FOUR VOTES? SO I TRIED TO THINK THROUGH THAT PROCESS, HOW IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE TO WHERE YOU WOULD TAKE THE VOTES ON ALL OF THE NOMINATIONS AND THEN NARROW IT DOWN TO THE ONES THAT ARE TIED FOR, I DUNNO, FIRST PLACE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU WOULD SAY, THE LEADER, THE LEADERS, I SUPPOSE.
UM, AND THEN YOU WOULD CONTINUE THAT PROCESS UNTIL THE COUNCIL IS ABLE TO GET DOWN TO THE NOMINATION.
SO THE OTHER THING THAT BECAME APPARENT WHEN I STARTED DOING THIS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AMEND THE CODE.
AND AS, UH, AN ATTACHMENT TO THIS FIRST EXERCISE, I DID GO AHEAD AND PROPOSE.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSTED AND YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TO THEM IN THE CODE.
BUT I DID PUT TOGETHER THE COMPULSIONS THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO AMEND THE CODE, TO ADDRESS THIS POLICY AND EFFECTIVELY CHANGING IT.
HOWEVER, IN DOING THAT, I'VE ALSO UNCOVERED OTHER THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL DIDN'T DIRECT US TO LOOK AT MODIFYING THAT DEAL WITH BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, INCONSISTENCIES.
UM, AND CONGRUENCIES BETWEEN THE QUALIFICATIONS, LIKE JUST THE BASE QUALIFICATIONS THAT YOU'RE WANTING THE APPLICATIONS TO BE COMPARED AGAINST.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, BOARDS SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY FOR 12 MONTHS, P AND Z SAYS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY FOR SIX MONTHS.
SO THERE'S DIFFERENT, THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, DEPENDING ON WHICH BOARD OR COMMISSION YOU MIGHT BE ON THAT.
I THINK THAT WE COULD STREAMLINE IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE BECAUSE THE P AND Z REQUIREMENT FOR SIX MONTHS, I BELIEVE IS BASED OFF OF STATE LAW, BUT THE BOARD 12 MONTH IS NOT A CHARTER.
IT'S A, IT'S AN ORDINANCE, AS FAR AS I COULD TELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT ADOPTED THE 12 MONTHS, SO WE COULD IN THEORY, STREAMLINE THOSE.
UH, ANOTHER THING THAT BECAME APPARENT WAS, UM, LIKE THE LIBRARY BOARD IS LISTED AS A FIVE MEMBER BOARD.
AM I GOING TOO WIDE? YOU'RE SET BY SAYING STREAMLINE, YOU'RE SAYING AMANDA ORDINANCE TO LOWER IT TO SIX MONTHS BEFORE.
SO WE WOULD TAKE THE BOARDS DOWN TO MATCH.
THE NEXT EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UM, BOARDS AS DEFINED ARE SEVEN MEMBERS, BUT THEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE LIBRARY BOARD AND IT'S FIVE MEMBERS.
SO, UH, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK AT AND MAKING CONSISTENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IT CONFLICTS.
SO THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL DIDN'T DIRECT US TO LOOK AT, OR TO EFFECTIVELY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGE, BUT THEY BECAME APPARENT AS WE STARTED GOING THROUGH IT.
SO, AND THEN LASTLY, THERE'S AT LEAST ONE BOARD AND COMMISSION, WHICH IS THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION, WHICH COUNCIL DOESN'T APPOINT THE CITY MANAGER DOES.
SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD JUST BE EXCLUDED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WELL, THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDS AND THEN THE COUNCIL APPOINTS.
SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT ONE WOULD BE EXCLUDED.
SO ANYWAY, SO I'LL STOP TALKING SO Y'ALL CAN HELP ME GET THIS DIALED IN IF IT'S NOT WHERE YOU WANT IT.
AND THEN IF YOU WANT US, OR YOU WANT ME TO LOOK AT THE OTHER ITEMS TOO, AND TRY TO GET ALL OF THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE SAME.
SO THE, THE POLICY THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING THAT YOU, UH, PULLED TOGETHER FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS WAS EMAILED TO US A DAY OR TWO AGO, CORRECT? UH, IT'S NOT IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL YET, SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S RELEVANT, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST DISCUSS THE POLICY AT THIS POINT, OR I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT I NAILED IT EXACTLY THE WAY THAT YOU WANTED IT ANYWAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT.
I MEAN, MAYBE THERE WAS THE INTENT TO GO AHEAD AND ADOPT IT TONIGHT.
UH, BUT THE, THE CODE IS NOT, AND THE CODE AMENDMENTS WOULD, BUT STILL PREVAIL.
WELL, THE POLICY, I THINK WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET SORTED, JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET A NEW POLICY AND PLAY SOME OF THE OTHER CON YOU KNOW, ALIGNMENT, UH, ISSUES THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, WE COULD PROBABLY DEAL WITH LATER.
BUT I THINK THE FOCUS OF DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE PRETTY SQUARELY AROUND THE SELECTION PROCESS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE WRITTEN OUT, WHICH I DID THINK WAS A FAIRLY ACCURATE SUMMARY OF THE DISCUSSIONS FROM OUR WORKSHOPS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSAL THAT JAMES SENT OVER? WELL, I JUST, UH, NOT SPECIFICALLY THAT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, UH, I GENERALLY AGREE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THERE ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE FLUSHED OUT.
AND WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT VERY BRIEFLY IN THAT TWO HOURS ON SUNDAY, UH, THAT THERE ARE NUANCES WITH VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UH, MAKING THE APPLICATION MORE ROBUST AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE VOCALLY AGREED ON IT, BUT I MENTIONED THAT I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY FOCUS ON THE POLICY NOW, GET THAT HAMMERED OUT, AND
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THEN WE CAN TACKLE THE APPLICATION AND GETTING IT TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, OR WE COULD TIE UP ANY LOOSE ENDS OR LOOPHOLES THAT COULD MAYBE MAKE OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MORE UNIFORM.SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS THAT, UH, I'M IN AGREEMENT.
AND MAYBE WE COULD GO ONE BY ONE HERE AND JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH EACH ONE IF WE HAVE, SO WE CAN KEEP EVERYTHING SUCCINCT AND HOPEFULLY MOVE THIS CONVERSATION.
SO IT DIDN'T TAKE TWO HOURS I DON'T HAVE IT PULLED UP JUST YET.
DOES EVERYBODY HAVE IT OUT? UM, SO I THINK NUMBER ONE IS GOOD.
IT'S JUST THE DATES REGARDING WHEN WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS.
AND THEN WHEN THE TERMS WERE GOING TO BEGIN, AND I WAS PRETTY SURE THOSE WERE THE DAYS THAT MIMIC WHAT WE DISCUSSED AS FAR AS THE SAME THING SAN MARCUS SAYS HERE SO, YEAH, I, I, WE DID DISCUSS THIS AND THOSE WERE THE DAY SICK.
I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD GO INTO AUGUST.
UM, CERTAINLY WITH THE LEEWAY OF HAVING ALL OF SEPTEMBER TO CALL THAT MEETING, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, EVEN IF YOU HAD APPLICATIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH OCTOBER 1ST 31ST.
SO YOU GET TO STILL CALL THAT MEETING LATER IN SEPTEMBER TO GIVE COUNCIL ADEQUATE TIME, FUTURE COUNCILS.
WHAT HAVE YOU GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO KIND OF FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT, UH, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT A HILL I'M GOING TO DIE ON ABOUT THAT DATE, BUT I, UH, IT JUST INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A TIME COMMITMENT AND CERTAINLY THERE MAY BE SOME FOLKS THAT KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR TIME COMMITMENTS ARE IN, IN JUNE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, I JUST THINK THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THAT AND THE TIME OF ACTUALLY HOLDING THOSE, UH, UM, THE APPOINTMENT, MAYBE BETTER, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, I'M, I'M IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT ALSO.
AND FOR THE PRECISE REASON OF, IF THERE'S NOTHING HAPPENING BETWEEN AUGUST 1ST AND AUGUST 31ST FROM AN INTERVIEW, THERE'S NO NEXT STEP FOR THEM TO TAKE OTHER THAN THE FOLLOWING MEETING, WHY WOULD WE NOT WANT TO TAKE APPLICATIONS? IT'S JUST LIKE A DAY, IT'S LIKE A DEAD TIME.
ALL IT DOES IS PUT IT OUT OF THEIR MIND.
SO THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO I THINK IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF SELECTION PROCESS PRIOR TO THE SPECIAL MEETING, THEN WE SHOULD ALLOW FOR AT LEAST UP TO THE WEEK BEFORE TWO WEEKS BEFORE OR SOMETHING, I THINK ALL THE WAY TILL THE END OF AUGUST MAKES SENSE MYSELF.
THAT GIVES US KIND OF, OR SEPTEMBER 1ST, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
SEARCHING EMAILS ON MICROSOFT.
I TYPED, I TYPED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
OH, JUST SIT, RESCIND A TABLE.
IT COULD NOT FIND IT SO STRANGE.
IF YOU DO EXTEND THE TIMEFRAME, THEN YOU DO COMPRESS THE AMOUNT OF TIME WHERE YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE THE NOMINATIONS DONE.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TWO MONTHS EFFECTIVELY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER.
YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY SEPTEMBER.
SO JUST UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE EIGHT WEEKS TO CHOOSE FROM RIGHT NOW TO SCHEDULE THAT SPECIAL MEETING BETWEEN BUDGET AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IF YOU MOVE APPLICATIONS TO THE END OF AUGUST, NOW YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN FOUR WEEKS IN SEPTEMBER.
THAT'D BE THE ONLY THING I WOULD POINT OUT.
SO FOR ME, WE ALREADY HAD THIS DISCUSSION, HAVING IT AGAIN, I THINK IS MY NUDE.
I'D LIKE TO JUST MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK THAT MAKEUP I'LL DO IT.
I, IF YOU WANT TO GO FAST, WE'LL GO.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND, UH, MR. HERB'S PROPOSAL ON POINT NUMBER ONE TO EXTEND THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST 2ND.
SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FLORES, KALE, SIR.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? MORE DECKS? NO.
UH, OFTEN ENOUGH, WHAT'S THAT? YEAH.
WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK AND CHANGE IT.
IT, UH, WHEN WE GIVE DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS PART HERE.
I GOING THROUGH THEM LINE BY LINE, WE'RE BUILDING CONSENSUS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TAKEN VOTES ON ANY OF THESE THINGS.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS ADOPTING IN THE POLICIES.
BUT, UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE OR A NUMBER TWO SAYS EACH MAY AN OFFICIAL JOB DESCRIPTION FOR EACH POSITION THAT IS EXPIRING OR VACANT WILL BE CREATED AND POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
UNDER THE VOLUNTEER APPLICATIONS PAGE, A CITY MAY TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL MEASURES THAT DETERMINES NECESSARY
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TO ENSURE THERE'S SUFFICIENT AWARENESS OF AN APPOINTMENT OPPORTUNITY.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DISCUSS ON THAT POINT CUSTOMER? FOR SCALE, I WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFY WHO IS GOING TO CREATE THAT POST.
LIKE WHO'S GONNA, WHO'S GONNA DRAFT IT.
WE COULD SAY LIKE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS IS OR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO, UM, CREATE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFY THAT IN THE POLICY.
SO NORMALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER OR HIS, OR HER DESIGNEE.
THAT'S USUALLY THE WAY THAT IT GOES, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IF COMMUNICATIONS CAN'T DO IT? WHAT HAPPENS IF SO-AND-SO CAN'T DO IT? YOU KNOW? SO I THINK, YEAH, THAT RIGHT THERE, THEREIN LIES THE ISSUE.
LIKE IF THERE'S GOING TO, IF THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY, THEN MY FEAR IS IT COULD JUST GO DOWN TO ANYBODY.
AND I THINK WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY, IT CAN CAUSE ISSUES IN THE LONG RUN.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF WE SAY, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, JAMES EARP IS GOING TO DROP IS GOING TO DRAFT THIS AND HE DOESN'T THAT HE CAN SAY, OKAY, I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS.
CAN SOMEBODY ELSE DO IT? BUT AT LEAST THAT WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF JAMES OR TAKES A NAP AND DOESN'T WAKE UP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT'S USUALLY, IT'S A GENERAL STATEMENT BECAUSE IT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY AT THE END OF THE DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS DONE.
I MEAN, NOT THAT I WON'T DO WHATEVER YOU ASK ME.
OH, AND I, WASN'T GOING TO SAY YOU, LIKE IN GENERAL, I SAID COMMUNICATIONS ORIGINALLY.
I JUST LIKE TO SEE THIS BE SOMEBODY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AND THEREFORE, IF, IF IT NEEDS TO BE PASSED ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE, WE KNOW WHO'S SUPPOSED TO PASS IT ON.
SO THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT I WOULD IMPLEMENT THIS AS IS HUMAN RESOURCES WOULD BE POSTING IT JUST LIKE THEY DO EVERY OTHER JOB DESCRIPTION, EXCEPT THAT HUMAN RESOURCES PRETTY FAR MOVED FROM BORIS.
I KNOW, BUT IT'S ON THEIR RADAR.
IT'S NOT, BUT IT'S NOT TODAY, BUT IT'S STILL VERY, IT'S THE SAME WORK.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES TO ALIGN IT WITH THE FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THE WORK.
WHAT ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT THAT THE BORDER COMMISSION FALLS UNDER? WELL, I MEAN, EFFECTIVELY EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE POSTED EVERY YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE VACANCIES AND TERM EXPIRATIONS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO REALLY ONCE WE GET THIS SET UP ON THE FRONT END, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT STARTS TO HAPPEN REGULARLY, AUTOMATICALLY EVERY MAY.
WE OPEN UP ALL THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION POSITIONS AND THE JOB DESCRIPTION DOESN'T CHANGE.
THAT'S I MEAN, IT CAN CHANGE OVER TIME, BUT YES, YES.
IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO CHANGE IT, BUT RIGHT NOW THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE ALREADY SET.
WE KNOW WHAT EACH BOARD AND COMMISSION CODE AND UNLESS WE HAVE A REASON TO CHANGE THEM.
CAN WE, CAN WE SEE THOSE WHENEVER WE, WHENEVER YOU CHANCE TO SEND THEM TO US.
SO WE GOING TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE.
YOU MEAN WHAT'S IN THE MUNI CODE OF WHAT THEIR DIRECTION IS? WELL, I, I THINK POSTED TO THE NEWSPAPER, RIGHT? NO, I THINK WE CREATED A JOB DESCRIPTIONS TWO YEARS AGO.
SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT FOR THE, FOR THE DIFFERENT BOARDS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE BOARD, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SMALLER, MORE NUANCED ONES, BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE LIKE A JOB POSTING, LIKE, LIKE AN ACTUAL JOB DESCRIPTION, IF YOU WILL.
SO, WHICH IS DERIVED FROM THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER FOR EACH OF THOSE BOARDS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT ONLY INCLUDES THAT.
THAT'S PROBABLY BE HESITANT TO SAY, THAT'S WHY I SAY IT THERE'S DERIVED FROM IT.
SO NUMBER THREE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON NUMBER TWO? ALRIGHT.
UH, MOVING ON TO NUMBER THREE AND APPLICATION FOR THE VACANT POSITION WILL BE POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE ON THE VOLUNTEER APPLICATIONS.
PAGE TABLE WILL BE CREATED SHOWING WHICH BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS HAVE EXPECTED VACANCIES, WHICH NICE THEY MEET FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE APPLICANTS AND POSTED TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
ALONG WITH THE POSTING, THE APPLICATION WILL ALLOW APPLICANTS TO SELECT THEIR PREFERRED ASSIGNMENTS.
THE APPLICATION MUST BE COMPLETED BY ANY PERSON WISHING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE POSITION PRIOR TO AUGUST 1ST.
UH, THAT'S ONE THING WE'LL NEED TO CHANGE.
SO IF IT'S OPEN TO THE, I THINK I'LL JUST CHANGE IT.
UM, WELL WORKING OFF OF THE DOCUMENT, IF WE GO THROUGH ALL THESE DOCUMENTS, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE AT LEAST TRY TO CALL FOR A VOTE.
SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO OFFICIALLY MOVE EACH OF THESE.
WE FINALLY HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK OFF OF IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE LAST WORD IN NUMBER THREE TO AUGUST 31ST.
WHAT'S THAT EMOTION THAT WAS EMOTIONAL WOULD SAY MOTION.
MOVE BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR ELLISON OR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
UH, YOUR INTENT IS TO MAKE IT TO MATCH WITH THE ENDING, BUT THE WORDING IS PRIOR TO, SO IT WOULD NEED TO BE THE FOLLOWING DAY, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER 1ST.
I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 1ST, IS THAT AGREEABLE SECOND? ALRIGHT.
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DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON POINT NUMBER THREE CUSTOMER FORCE CASE? THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A LOCAL NEWSPAPER AND SOCIAL MEDIA TO, UM, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE POSTED AT YES, PLEASE.
SO IT'LL READ AN APPLICATION FOR THE VACANT POSITION WOULD BE POSTED TO THE CITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LIKE CITIES WEBSITE, LOCAL NEWSPAPER AND ALL SOCIAL MEDIA OH YEAH.
CAN I, YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD LOCAL NEWS, NEWSPAPER AND SOCIAL MEDIA TO, UH, NUMBER THREE, PLEASE.
IT'S MOTION BY CUSTOMER FORCE.
KALE SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE AMEND POINT NUMBER THREE TO INCLUDE, UH, NEWSPAPERS AND SOCIAL MEDIA IS IN THE, UH, IN THE OUTREACH.
UM, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? ALL RIGHT.
APPLICATIONS WILL BE SCREENED AGAINST THE CITY'S CODES.
UH, BASIC CRITERIA FOR MEMBERSHIP.
ALL APPLICATIONS MUST MEET CITY CODE CRITERIA, UM, OR THAT MEET THE CRITERIA WILL BE PUT INTO A POOL FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO BE HELD PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, UNLESS EXCUSED APPLICANTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO ATTEND THIS SPECIAL MEETING.
UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? UH, I DISAGREE WITH THE ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENT, SO I, I AGREE WITH THE, UH, BEGINNING PART, BUT, UH, NOT ATTENDANCE.
SO I, I THINK IT'S, UM, UH, I THINK IT'S STRANGE TO ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY 20 PEOPLE TO SHOW UP FOR TWO POSITIONS AND GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHEN IT'S VERY UNLIKELY.
SO I JUST, AS FAR AS THE REQUIREMENT THAT TH TH THE I'VE HEARD ABOUT SAN MARCOS, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT'S HIGHLY ENCOURAGED.
IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP, YOU DON'T REACH OUT.
UH, THIS POLICY PUTS IT ALL ON US.
IF WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM, AND THEY'RE NOT HERE, IT'S ON THEM, I SUPPOSE.
SO, BUT THE RE THE REQUIREMENT, IF SOMEBODY CAN'T MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS APPLICANT.
THEY CAN'T MAKE IT FOR SOME REASON.
I GUESS THEY EXCUSED WOULD MAKE SENSE THERE, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THAT.
I JUST WOULD RATHER, I'D RATHER NOT REQUIRE IT MYSELF.
SO, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'S EVEN SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS THAT CUSTOMER? I ACTUALLY AM.
SO, UH, IN LOOKING AT ALL THE OTHER CITIES, UH, THEY DIDN'T, UH, NOT HAVE A ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENT EITHER.
YOU KNOW, UNDER THE OLD POLICY.
I DEFINITELY WANTED IT BECAUSE THERE WAS A NOMINEE THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD FROM INTERVIEWS THAT I WASN'T A PART OF, AND I'D WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MY OWN QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY THE APPLICANT.
THIS PROCESS GIVES US EVERYBODY.
SO, UM, WITH US HAVING EVERYBODY'S QUALIFICATIONS, EVERYBODY'S APPLICATION EVERYBODY'S RESUME.
WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THAT INFORMATION, I DON'T THINK IT, IT SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT EITHER STRONGLY ENCOURAGED.
CERTAINLY THEY CAN COME AND SPEAK AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEIR PIECE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMENTS, PERIOD, WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY CAN CERTAINLY EMAIL OR PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS THEY WANT TO DO.
BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, IF THE IDEA IS THAT THIS POLICY WILL, REGARDLESS OF IT'S FIVE PEOPLE APPLYING OR 55 PEOPLE APPLYING, UH, IT SHOULD STILL WORK PRETTY SEAMLESSLY.
AND I THINK THAT COULD WORK WHEN IT'S FIVE PEOPLE, BUT WHEN IT'S A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT BOARDS AND ONLY A FEW POSITIONS, THAT IS A PRETTY TOUGH REQUIREMENT.
SO I AM SYMPATHETIC TO THAT CUSTOMER FOR SCALE.
I AGREE WITH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW DO I ASK THIS APPLICANT QUESTIONS? IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO SHOW UP, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO.
SO IF I, SO HOW WOULD THAT WORK IN LIKE REAL WORLD? LIKE IF I WAS GOING TO GO TO A JOB AND I WAS LIKE, OH, I'VE NEVER SEEN A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE OF CALLING 20 PEOPLE IN TO A ROOM AND HAVING A BOARD OF SEVEN FOLLOW ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT THIS POLICY IS.
WELL, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN, YOU KNOW, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
IF I WANTED TO BE AN ACTOR, I JUST GO.
I WOULD RE AND THERE'S NO TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE PRIOR TO, RIGHT.
I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO SEE IT LIKE THE DAY OF, I GUESS, NO, I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IF YOU'RE, IF, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, IF YOU'RE NOT REACHING OUT TO A COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU'RE NOT SHOWING UP, UH, IF YOU'RE NOT WORKING THE SYSTEM, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE WAY THAT IT WILL GO.
SO YOU'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THEM ALL AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE THE APPLICATIONS WILL BE SENT OVER AHEAD OF TIME, BUT IT'S JUST THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY'RE HERE.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA SHAKE OUT.
I KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED AND THAT'S MY THOUGHT, MY PROTEST.
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THAT SUNDAY WAS I KINDA BROUGHT THIS UP.AND THE WAY IT EXPLAINED TO ME IS THAT THE, UH, APPLICATION IS GOING TO BE COMPLETE.
THAT THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BASE THIS ON.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO, UH, PULL AWAY FROM THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SUPPORT THAT, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO, IF WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO LOOK AT THE APPLICATION AND SAY, THIS IS THE BEST APPLICANT, CAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS EXPLAINED TO ME ON SUNDAY THAT WE CAME IN FOR THAT WORKSHOP TWO WEEKS AGO, THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT THE APPLICATION AND GO FROM THE APPLICATION.
WASN'T ABOUT THEM BRINGING THEM IN, UH, MAKING 20 PEOPLE COMING UP HERE.
AND HALF OF THEM WERE DENIED AND THEY SPENT THEIR ENTIRE DAY HERE.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO STICK TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
WELL, IT WAS A DISCRETION, THERE WERE NO BOATS OR ANYTHING TAKEN.
SO W W WHAT I'M GUESSING, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HERE, AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON YOUR POINT MIRROR, BUT WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING, WE HAVE AGENDA ITEMS ALL THE TIME THAT, I MEAN, COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS TALKED ABOUT, MEETING WITH THE ETHICS APPOINTMENT, UH, FROM DANIELLA, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING TO GET YOU DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE A DECISION COMING TO THIS DIOCESE.
SO I GUESS I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONCERN IS HERE ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IF YOU JUST WANT TO GO BY THE APPLICATIONS, THAT'S YOUR PROCESS.
IF YOU JUST WANT TO PICK NAMES OUT OF THE HAT, THAT'S YOUR PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, EVERY DIFFERENT THINGS WILL MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS TO EVERYBODY.
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PEOPLE PICKING FOLKS FROM CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY THAT THAT'S PART OF THEIR PROCESS.
SO THIS WAY, ALL OF US HAVE OUR OWN PROCESS AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE, UH, WHAT WE FEEL IS A FAIR APPOINTMENT TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION AND, AND, AND ENGAGE WITH THESE, UH, VOLUNTEER RESIDENTS.
BUT I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE IS.
THE MAYOR SAID, IF YOU DON'T SHOW UP AND YOU DON'T TALK TO A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, THEN WHY EVEN FILL OUT AN APPLICATION? I MEAN, THAT'S, WHAT'S GETTING TO ME RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, R R IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO REACH OUT TO US.
IS THAT WHAT MARY JUST SAID? THEY HAVE TO REACH OUT TO US OR ARE WE REACHING OUT TO THEM? I'M GOOD WITH US REACHING OUT TO THEM.
BUT THE STATEMENT THE MAYOR SAID RIGHT NOW WAS THAT IF YOU DON'T TALK TO A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA MAKE IT.
SO WHY EVEN TURN IN AN APPLICATION? SO ARE WE SAYING, TURN AN APPLICATION AND REACH OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, OR ARE WE SAYING TURN APPLICATION, AND WE MIGHT REACH OUT TO YOU IF THAT WAS THE MAYORS OF JUST HIS THOUGHTS THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH HIS, WELL, IT'S A RELEVANT QUESTION.
SO, YEAH, IT'S A RELEVANT QUESTION.
SO, BUT, BUT DEX HIS RESPONSE, OUR CUSTOMER ELLISON'S RESPONSES, UH, APPROPRIATE BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT REASONS FOR WHY THEY MAY OR MAY NOT SUPPORT SO MUCH.
SO, UH, IN THE PAST, SOMEONE NOT SHOWING UP HAS BEEN THE BASIS FOR VOTES GOING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, IT MAY NOT BE THAT WAY FOR EVERYONE, BUT IF WE MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY BE HERE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A STANDARD THAT WE'RE ALL AGREEING TO, BUT, BUT COUNSELOR ALISON'S COMMENTS, I THINK ARE MUCH ACTUALLY TRUE TO THE WAY IT WOULD WORK OUT.
WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE ALL GONNA VOTE BASED ON HOW WE INDIVIDUALLY WANT TO VOTE AND FOR NO OTHER REASON.
SO IF SOMEONE NOT SHOWING UP IS DISQUALIFYING FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL, THEY MAY CHOOSE NOT TO VOTE FOR THAT PERSON, IF NOT REACHING OUT OR NOT HEARING FROM THEM IN ANY WAY, THAT MAY BE THE WAY THEY CHOOSE, BUT REQUIRING THEM TO BE HERE, FLIPS IT ON TO THE POLICY AND SAYS, THAT'S SOMETHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LET'S, DON'T MAKE REQUESTS BECAUSE FOR ME, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT IT, WHETHER THEY SHOW UP TO THE MEETING OR NOT, IF I'VE GONE THROUGH AND HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, I UNDERSTAND I MIGHT WANT TO, WHETHER THEY CAN BE HERE OR NOT FOR THAT SPECIAL MEETING, MIGHT BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ONE OF US OR MORE OF US.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S THE, THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON THE REQUIREMENTS, I GUESS ALL I WAS SAYING ABOUT THE BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING FROM QUALIFICATION TO SELECTION OF THE THERE'S, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO VETTING PROCESS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS THERE'S QUALIFICATION.
AND THEN THIS, THIS PROCESS IS, IS THE VETTING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S ALL GONNA WORK, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK THAT I THINK, I THINK I'VE ALREADY MADE THE POINT.
SO I JUST DON'T THINK, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I MEAN, MAKING 20 APPLICANTS COME OUT HERE FOR TWO OR THREE POSITIONS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
I JUST, SOMETIMES I HEAR SOME BULLET POINTS AND IT SCARES ME, YOU KNOW? CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DETER PEOPLE FROM VOLUNTEERING.
I REMEMBER WE HAD TO BEG PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER IN THE CITY AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE NO MORE.
WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON NOT BEING HEAVY HANDED AND ENCOURAGING VOLUNTEERISM.
IT'S A VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION.
YOU'RE COMING OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF YOUR HEART TO GIVE OF YOUR TIME.
AND I KNOW THAT CAUSE I'VE VOLUNTEERED ALL OVER THIS COMMUNITY AND
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I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A VOLUNTEER.SO THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO BE CAREFUL AT.
I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE VOLUNTARY IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND THEY WANT TO SERVE AND THEY LOVE TO SERVE.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.
AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO STRIKE THE LAST SENTENCE FROM POINT NUMBER FOUR, THAT STATES, UNLESS EXCUSED APPLICANTS WILL BE REQUIRED TO ATTEND THE SPECIAL MEETING MOVE BY THAT MAYOR.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN ELLISON, HIS THIRD DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER FLOURISH KALE, CAN WE ADD INSTEAD OF JUST COMPLETELY TAKEN OUT, JUST SAY MENTIONED THAT ATTENDANCE IS, UM, ENCOURAGED.
SO THAT WAY THEY KNOW, I MEAN THE TRUTH IS, IS LIKE MAYBE I WOULD WORD IT THIS WAY.
APPLICANTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND THE SPECIAL MEETING PERIOD.
VERY SIMPLE, SUCCINCT, BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO ADD THE SENTENCE.
APPLICANTS ARE ENCOURAGED, BUT NOT REQUIRED TO ATTEND THIS SPECIAL MEETING AS A GRIEVANCE.
SO WE'LL MO WE'LL, UM, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION ON THE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS THE NEW ONE.
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE INITIAL MOMENT, UH, THE VOTE ON THE ORIGINAL, WHICH WILL STRIKE THE FIRST SENTENCE.
SO, UH, AS TO THE AMENDMENT, ADDING THE LANGUAGE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO AND NOW WE'LL TAKE A MOTION TO STRIKE THE ORIGINAL SENTENCE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
ANYTHING ELSE ON AGENDA ITEM OR I'M SORRY, ON POINT NUMBER FOUR.
COUNSEL CONSIDER ALL ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS BASED ON APPLICANT'S PREFERENCE FOR APPOINTMENT.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO SAY ON THAT ITEM? IF, AS LONG AS IT'S CLEAR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOO AMBIGUOUS, BUT UH, BASICALLY WE'RE ADDRESSING IN THIS, I BELIEVE IS THE IDEA THAT WAS DISCUSSED ON SUNDAY, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT THEIR PREFERENCE SO THEY COULD PUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE NIGGA PUT TWO, THEY COULD PUT THREE, THEY COULD ORDER THOSE THAT THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GETTING AT.
SO IF SOMEONE ONLY HAD INTEREST IN THE PARKS BOARD AND NOTHING ELSE, THEY COULD JUST PUT THAT.
IF THEY HAD PARKS, BOARD AND LIBRARY BOARD, THEY COULD PUT THAT IF THEY WANTED A DIP IN ANYTHING, THEN THEY COULD LIST THAT ORDER AS WELL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.
I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THAT IT HAS TO BE ORDERED, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST SELECT THE BOARDS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT I WOULD THINK.
AND THEN IF WE WANT IT TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT STEP TO SAY, OKAY, NOW PUT THEM IN A HIERARCHY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHAT'S YOUR FIRST CHOICE, SECOND CHOICE, THIRD CHOICE TYPE DEAL.
WE COULD DO THAT TOO, I SUPPOSE, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT Y'ALL PREFER.
THEY COULD JUST PICK ONE IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PICK ANYTHING ELSE.
I THINK WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE'LL JUST SET UP AS LIKE LITTLE BOXES THAT YOU CLICK, LIKE WHICH ONES EITHER YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ALL, WHICH IS ONE BOX OR YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SELECT ONES AND YOU SELECT THEM AND THEN THAT'S PROBABLY THE EXTENT OF IT.
SO, BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU CHECK, WHEN YOU SHOW UP, IF THE, IF IT'S AGREED UPON, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GO INTO ANY ONE, THAT'S MORE OF A FEEDBACK SYSTEM BECAUSE YOU'VE APPLIED, YOU'RE COMING FORWARD, YOU CAN BE NOMINATED BY US FOR ANYTHING.
SO IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE A BASED ON WHAT YOU CHECK.
IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T CHECK THAT IF THEY LEFT, UH, THE, UM, LIBRARY BOARD BLANK, UH, TECHNICALLY WE COULD PUT THEM ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE SOMEONE TO NOMINATE SOMEONE FOR A POSITION THAT THEY DIDN'T FILL OUT.
SO MAYBE THERE'S DISCUSSION MAYBE AN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT I THINK IT'S ALL FINE REALLY RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT'S GONNA WORK OUT, BUT RIGHT.
IT IS THE CASE THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY CHECK, IF IT WAS DEEMED, FOR SOME REASON THAT THE BOARD WANTED TO TAKE A VOTE TO PUT THAT PERSON IN THAT PARTICULAR SLOT, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO, I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF UP TO US IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF I FEEL AS STRONG EITHER WAY.
I MEAN, IF, IF SOMEONE WANTED TO JUST SUBMIT FOR ONE AND THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN THE OTHERS AND MAYBE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TO FEEL, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I THINK WE COULD WORK WELL.
THEY MIGHT ALWAYS DECLINE THE APPOINTMENT TOO.
THEY COULD DECLINE THE APPOINTMENT.
WOULD THERE BE ANY HARM IN JUST WHATEVER THEY CHECK, WHETHER IT'S 1, 2, 3, HOWEVER MANY ITEMS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT BOARD, THOSE NAMES ARE PULLED UP.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CHECKED ONE OF THESE BOARDS AND THEREFORE YOU'RE IN THAT INITIAL POOL, UH, THAT COULD BE NOMINATED BY ANY MEMBER.
WELL, I GUESS I'M JUST WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS IT THE CASE THAT THEY CAN ONLY BE CONSIDERED FOR THE BOARDS IN WHICH THEY APPLIED OR CAN THEY BE CONSIDERED FOR ALL BOARDS? BECAUSE WE'VE KIND OF BEEN SAYING IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS AND I JUST, THE POLICY I WANT, I THINK SHOULD BE CONSISTENT.
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AND THEN AS LONG AS IT'S CONSISTENT, WE CAN WORK WITHIN IT.AND UNDER CIRCUMSTANCE, I DIDN'T SAY SOLELY.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD NARROW IT TO WHERE, LIKE YOU COULD ONLY CONSIDER WHAT THEY SELECT.
IT WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS, ALL ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS, COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER ALL ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS BASED SOLELY ON THE APPLICANT'S PREFERENCE FOR APPOINTMENT THAT WOULD NARROW IT DOWN TO ONLY THE THINGS THAT THEY PICK IS THE WAY I WOULD INTERPRET THAT.
SO WITHOUT THE WORD, IT DEPENDS.
AS LONG AS YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT BEING OPEN TO WHAT YOU PREFER, THEN I THINK IT, IT WORKS AS LONG AS THEY GOT THE OPTION, JUST PICKING ONE UP.
I DON'T THINK COUNCIL WOULD GRAB SOMEBODY IF THEY DIDN'T CHECK A BOX BECAUSE IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE VERY UNLOCKED.
THANK YOU TO TRY TO FIND A MEDIUM TO THAT.
MAYBE WE COULD PUT SOMETHING THAT SAYS, UM, APPLICANTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY FOR ALL BOARDS SLASH COMMITTEES, WHICH THEY'RE WILLING TO SERVE IN THE FRONT AND IN THE BACK YOU COULD, OR THE SECOND SENTENCE WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT'S THERE NOW, WHICH IS COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER ALL ELIGIBLE ADVOCATES BASED ON THEIR PREFERENCE FOR APPOINTMENT.
WHAT WAS THE FIRST SENTENCE YOU SAID AGAIN, UM, APPLICANTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY FOR ALL BOARDS, SLAS COMMISSIONS, WHICH THEY'RE WILLING TO SERVE.
SO THAT WAY IT KIND OF PUTS THEM OUT THERE THAT A, YOU MAY NOT GET THE ONE THAT YOU WANT AND B DON'T CHECK ANY THAT YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO DO.
AND THEN AT THE END, THE LAST THAT LAST SENTENCE WOULD BE COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER ALL ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS BASED ON THEIR PREFERENCE FOR THEIR APPOINTMENT.
SO THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT YOU GUYS CHOOSE, THAT'S HOW WE'LL DECIDE OR WAS THAT TOO WORDY? SO WHAT I PUT IS APPLICANTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY FOR ALL BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, OR COMMITTEES THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO SERVE.
AND THEN THIS SECOND SENTENCE REMAINS, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL SENTENCE.
I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE SENTENCE.
THAT'S BEEN READ OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES TO NUMBER FIVE MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND BY COUNSELOR FORCE, KELSER DISCUSSION ON IT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
DURING THE FIRST ROUND OF EVALUATION, EACH BOARD COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION WILL BE ADDRESSED INDEPENDENTLY EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, RIGHT? NOMINATE ANY NUMBER OF ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS FOR CONSIDERATION, FILL ANY PARTICULAR VACANCY.
THESE APPLICANTS BECOME NOMINEES.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT PROCESS? UH, ONLY CONSIDERATION THAT I HAVE IS WHAT IF SOMEBODY IS, UM, UH, REALLY WANTING ONE AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THEM SYSTEMATICALLY, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE ON THE OTHER.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S JUST A SITUATION WHERE IF THEY HAD KNOWN THAT THEY WERE, OR WEREN'T GOING TO GET ONE SPOT, THEY MIGHT'VE SWITCHED UP WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SERVE JUST BASED ON THAT PROCESS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY WAY TO FIX THAT.
SO, WELL, THEY'LL PUT DOWN WHAT THEY WANT.
LIKE MAYBE WE COULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND DO THEM LAST OR SAY, HEY, WE PICKED THIS GUY.
SO I THINK THE, I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS IF I, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING IS RIGHT, I CAN SAY CLEAR CLEARLY, LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO BE ON THE PARKS BOARD AND YOU WANT TO BE ON P AND Z.
AND WE ALL THINK THAT THIS PERSON IS REALLY GOOD FOR THE PARKS BOARD, BUT THEY REALLY WANT TO BE ON P AND Z, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO GET ON P AND Z.
IN WHICH CASE WE MIGHT PUT THEM ON THE PARKS BOARD.
AND THEN THEY'RE NO LONGER AN APPLICANT FOR P AND Z.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S ONE OF THOSE KINDS OF SITUATIONS WHERE IT MIGHT PUT SOMEONE IN THE WRONG SEAT JUST BASED ON THE ORDER WITH WHICH, BECAUSE IT'S ONE GIANT POOL IS THE POINT.
AND THEY MIGHT SAY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT COULD PROBABLY WORK OUT THROUGH A CONVERSATION IF IT WAS STRAIGHT UP GETTING TO THAT POINT.
AND IF THEY COULD MAKE THAT KNOWN OR SOMETHING.
BUT THE OTHER WAY TOO, WITH YOUR POINT ABOUT NOT KNOWING IF YOU WOULD GET ON, BECAUSE LET'S SAY YOU HELD OUT FOR THE P AND Z AND YOU DIDN'T GET IT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO SERVE ON THE PARKS BOARD, BUT THAT ONE'S ALREADY PASSED NOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A SIMPLE WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM WITH A, WITH A PROCESS.
I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY JUST GOING TO HAVE TO NOODLE ON IT AND FIGURE IT OUT WHEN YOU'RE OKAY.
WHEN YOU'RE IN IT, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AND DOES ALLOWING THEM TO RANK IT, NOT RIGHT.
IF WE KNEW WHAT THEIR, WELL, THAT ONLY HELPS IF THE ORDER OF THEIR PREFERENCE MATCHES THE ORDER THAT YOU'RE TAKING THE COMMISSIONS.
AND THAT WON'T BE THE CASE, BECAUSE IF MY PREFERENCE, IF MY FIRST PREFERENCE IS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR LIST, SO YOU SKIP OVER ME FOR ALL THOSE OTHER ONES, YOU GET DOWN THERE.
AND THEN I DON'T GET THAT, THAT LAST APPOINTMENT.
THAT WAS THE LAST ONE THAT Y'ALL DID.
I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE MY SECOND OR THIRD CHOICE UP HERE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN FIX THAT.
QUITE FRANKLY, AT THAT POINT, I'M GOING TO KEEP US, THAT'S THE HELPFUL PART OF HAVING PEOPLE ATTEND IN PERSON WHERE THEY CAN TALK TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS OTHER DEAL, SO I'D PREFER TO HOLD OUT OR WHATEVER.
POINT NUMBER SEVEN, BASED ON THE FIRST ROUND EVALUATION OF THE APPLICANTS, UH, APPLICATIONS VOTE WILL BE CALLED ON EACH NOMINEE
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NOMINEE THAT RECEIVES THE MOST VOTES WILL BE APPOINTED.IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE NOMINEES TIED FOR MOST VOTES COUNCIL VOTE WILL BE CALLED TO TIE BREAK, REMOVING ANY NOMINEES THAT RECEIVE FEWER VOTES UNTIL THERE IS AN OBVIOUS NOMINEE.
THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR TO ME ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE.
NUMBER EIGHT, THE PROCESS WILL BE REPEATED FOR EVERY SEAT AVAILABLE FOR EVERY BOARD COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION UNTIL ALL SEATS ARE FILLED.
NO APPLICANTS CAN ACHIEVE A MAJORITY VOTE, OR THE APPLICANT POOL IS EXHAUSTED QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT ONE.
UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT MIDTERM VACANCIES.
UH, IT SHALL BE THE POLICY OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT IN THE EVENT, THERE ARE ONE OR MORE MIDTERM AND DESIRE.
THE COUNCIL EXPRESSLY BY MAJORITY VOTE IS TO FILL THE VACANCY PRIOR TO THE REGULAR ANNUAL PROCESS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY FILL SAID, VACANCIES BIOPROCESS THAT'S CLOSELY RESEMBLED PROCEDURE ABOVE.
AFTER A POSTING, APPLICANTS ARE OPEN FOR APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS.
AND APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THE COUNCIL WORKS THROUGH THE APPLICATION.
SO THE SAME PROCESS AS BUFF AND EVENT, THERE ARE ELIGIBLE APPLICATIONS REMAINING FROM THE PREVIOUS CALL FOR APPLICATIONS.
COUNCIL MAY ELECT TO FILL FROM THAT POLL WITHOUT, UH, POSTING A NEW CALL, UH, COMMENTS ON THAT ONE, THE MAY ELECT TO FILL FROM THAT POOL WITHOUT POSTING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION IN A WAY TO GET IT ONTO AN AGENDA ITEM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM FEELING FILLING FROM THE POOL.
I JUST, I JUST DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.
WELL, I GUESS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, TO, TO STRUGGLE WITH WAS YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE AN APPLICANT POOL, YOU GO THROUGH, YOU MAKE YOUR APPLICATIONS AND MAYBE YOU HAD A HUGE TURNOUT FOR A PARTICULAR BOARD.
THEN YOU GET INTO NOVEMBER AND THEN THAT BOARD HAS A VACANCY COME UP AND RATHER THAN START THE WHOLE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN FROM SCRATCH, WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE QUALIFIED APPLICANTS THAT WERE INTERESTED, THAT COULD SERVE.
SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF JUST PUT IT ON Y'ALL TO HAVE TO SAY AT AN, AT A COUNCIL MEETING TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION TO FILL THIS, THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL POLICY, WE WANT TO CONSIDER THE POOL OF APPLICANTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, OR TO SAY, WE WANT YOU TO POST AND OPEN IT UP FOR 30 DAYS OR TO SAY, WE WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THE POOL AND OPEN IT UP FOR 30 DAYS.
Y'ALL CAN DECIDE BASED ON WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.
I MEAN, WHEN I READ THROUGH IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT GIVES COUNSEL AND FUTURE COUNSELORS, THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE WHICHEVER OF THOSE OPTIONS THEY WANT TO DO, WHETHER THEY WANT TO FILL IT.
AND WHEN TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AND FILL THAT WHETHER THEY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE ANNUAL WINDOW, SORRY.
OR IF THEY WANT TO PULL FROM A PREVIOUS APPLICANT POOL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALL AT THEIR DISPOSAL.
AND I KIND OF LIKED THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES THE COUNCIL A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY TO DO, DEPENDING ON WHEN THAT HAPPENED IN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I THINK I NEED TO ADD ONE WORD AT THE VERY END TO MAKE THAT BETTER, WHICH WOULD BE COUNSEL MAY ELECT TO FILL FROM A POOL WITH, OR WITHOUT POSTING A NEW CALL.
AND THEN THAT MAKES IT TO WHERE YOU CAN DO EITHER.
OR YOU CAN INCLUDE THE, THE, THE EXISTING POOL, OR YOU CAN DO A NEW CALL OR YOU CAN DO THEM BOTH.
SO HAD THE WORD WITH, OR WITHOUT, BUT IF YOU HAD IT, IF YOU HAD A POOL AND YOU POSTED AND THEY DIDN'T REAPPLY, THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED UNLESS THE COUNCIL IS SAYING, WE WANT TO CONSIDER THE POOL PLUS OPEN IT FOR 30 DAYS.
I GUESS ALL THE OPTIONS ARE PROBABLY AVAILABLE AS CUSTOMER ALLISON WAS SAYING, YEAH, WHAT I WAS, WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING WAS ADDING JUST TWO WORDS AT THE LAST SENTENCE THAT CLARIFY.
BUT IF Y'ALL FEEL IT TO GOOD, I'M HAPPY TO LEAVE IT.
LIKE THE ADDING THAT ADDING THAT LANGUAGE WILL CREATE THAT EXTRA OPTION FOR THE COUNCIL.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE AS WELL, I'M GIVING THEM OPTIONS.
SO, AND I THINK THE WITH OR WITHOUT GIVES US, GIVES THE, A LITTLE DIRECTION TO THE NEXT COUNCIL.
SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT GUESSING AT IT.
THIS IS AS MUCH OF A PROCESS FOR ME AS IT IS FOR Y'ALL HANGING OUT.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND MIDTERM VACANCIES 0.1, THE LAST SENTENCE, UH, TO ADD WITH OR BEFORE, WITHOUT WE, THE BAYER SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON SORT OF DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THAT I GET AT THE RIGHT SPOT COUNCIL MAY ELECT TO FILL FROM THAT POOL WITH, OR WITHOUT POSTING A NEW CALL DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO BRING UP POTENTIALLY ADDING CUSTOMER FORCE CASE? THANK YOU.
I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE SOMETHING REGARDING, UH REAPPOINTMENTS.
UM, I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE TO AT LEAST FILL OUT ANOTHER APPLICATION IN CASE THEIR INFORMATION HAS CHANGED.
UM, ANYWAY, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY MENTIONED IN HERE AND I THINK REAPPOINTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE KIND OF AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.
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SO, SO I, I TACKLED THAT.I THOUGHT EPOD THE VERY FIRST ITEM ONE, A NORMAL TERM EXPIRATION REAPPOINTMENTS OR VACANCIES.
SO THAT EFFECTIVELY IS WRAPPING IT ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE IN EFFECT, IF YOU, IF YOUR TERM IS EXPIRING, THAT IS AN EFFECTIVE VACANCY, RIGHT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T REAPPLY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMETIMES PEOPLE SUGGEST REAPPOINTMENTS AND I DIDN'T KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO DO ANY GOOD TO SUGGEST A REAPPOINTMENT ANYMORE.
SO W IN THIS, THE WAY THAT THIS IS SET UP, IF I'M SERVING ON THE LIBRARY BOARD AND I WANT TO BE REAPPOINTED, I WOULD PUT IN MY APPLICATION AND MY APPLICATION IN MY COVER LETTER AND RESUME OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE THEM ATTACH BECAUSE THE APPLICATION'S ONLY GOING TO BE LIKE, ARE YOU ELIGIBLE PAPA, PAPA? THAT'S THAT'S IT.
AND WHICH ONES ARE YOU INTERESTED IN? ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE APPLICATION.
SO THE UPLOAD OF THE COVER LETTER, I WOULD ASSUME, WOULD BE THE THINGS IN THE RESUME WOULD BE THE THINGS THAT Y'ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING.
AND I WOULD PUT IN THERE, HEY, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SERVING AGAIN.
THIS IS WHAT I'VE DONE FOR YOU.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR APPOINTMENTS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF MARIANA WAS GOING TO SUGGEST A REAPPOINTMENT, WOULD THERE BE LIKE A, WELL, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT IT'S HAPPENED A COUPLE OF TIMES, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY CAN RECOMMEND IF THEY COULD DO LIKE A RECOMMENDATION LETTER.
IT'S NOT IN THIS POLICY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE COULD PUT THAT IN THERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR, I MEAN, BUT DOESN'T THAT, DOESN'T THAT GO AGAINST WHAT I KIND OF EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN? NO, I'M ALL GOOD WITH THAT.
IF WE LEAVE IT OUT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COVER ALL THE BASES, BUT IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THAT I, YOU, IT JUST REALLY, ISN'T A REAPPOINTMENT OTHER THAN THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER TERM, THAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS.
AND EVERYONE ELSE IS ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THAT SEAT TO NO FAST WOULD, Y'ALL BE INTERESTED IN, IN, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW, HEY, IS THIS PERSON, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, DO YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO ASK STAFF? WE COULD, WE COULD REACH OUT TO STAFF ON YOUR OWN.
ANYTHING ELSE? I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE EXACT LANGUAGE THAT IT SAYS.
SO I KNOW, AND THIS IS KIND OF ALSO TO THE POINT THAT, UH, MR. ART WAS MAKING EARLIER ABOUT THE DIFFERENT NUANCES.
THERE ARE FOR THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIBRARY BOARD IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS SOMETHING IN THE MUNI CODE THAT SAYS THAT THEY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AS WELL AS THE ONLY THREE OF THEIR MEMBERS HAVE TO BE RESIDENTS.
UH, BUT THAT, SO THEY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OPTION ON THE LIBRARY BOARD, AS IT STATES IN OUR, IN OUR CODE.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO PULL IT UP AGAIN, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICY.
IT CALLS IT OUT SEPARATELY IN THE MUNI CODE, IN THE MUNICH CODE.
THAT THOSE ARE THOSE CODE AMENDMENTS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE THINGS DON'T NECESSARILY COMPLETELY ALIGNED WITH EACH OTHER, TRYING TO FIND IT, TO GIVE YOU ALL THE EXACT, BECAUSE IF, IF YOU HAVE IT, IF THE, IF THE QUALIFICATION, EVEN WHILE HE'S LOOKING FOR THAT, IF THE QUALIFICATION IS ONLY THREE MEMBERS HAVE TO BE CALLED CITIZENS, WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE APPOINTED TO A BOARD OR COMMISSION IS TO BE A CITIZEN.
SO, YOU KNOW, LIKE THOSE, THAT'S THE THINGS I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHERE THEY CAN FLIP 2, 4, 2, 4, 4, 1.
I THINK THE DESIRE WOULD BE THAT ANY BOARD OR COMMISSION SUBJECT TO THIS POLICY SHOULD FOLLOW THE SAME REAPPOINTMENT PROCESS.
SO THAT WOULD BE, OR YOU THINK, NO.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, SO YOU'RE JUST SPECIFICALLY STATES AND THAT SECTION, THAT THE BOARD SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THE BOARD BY MAJORITY VOTE MAY RECOMMEND MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD.
AND, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? LIKE THEY THEY'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AS, AS A COUNCIL.
SO THE LIBRARY BOARD SAYS, WE WANT TO REAPPOINT, WE WANT THIS PERSON TO BE APPOINTED.
AND THEN THEY CAME TO COUNCIL, UH, RECOMMENDED BY THE LIBRARY BOARD FOR REAPPOINTMENT.
THAT'S IN THAT, RIGHT? OR WAS IT JUST NEW MEMBERS TO, PAUL'S NOT HERE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY I REMEMBER IT HAPPENING.
AND AGAIN, THE ORIGINAL LIBRARY BOARD WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE A SET PEOPLE SAY, SO THIS IS A, THIS JUST A PAGE QUESTION.
I MEAN, IF I WAS TAKING YOU OFF, I WAS JUST GOING TO TRY TO, ALL RIGHT.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A POLICY, BUT IT HAS TO BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE, UM, OR NOT.
THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT REQUIRE FIRST AND SECOND READING? AND IF SO, UH, AN ORDINANCE, I HAVEN'T DRAFTED IT AS AN ORDINANCE.
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IT'S A, IT'S JUST A POLICY POLICY.SO CURRENTLY IF WE VOTE ON IT, IT'S A, IT BECOMES POLICY.
AND THEN WHAT I WAS STATING IS A LOT OF THIS REQUIRES AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE, WHICH WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE TO ALIGN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT CONFLICT.
AND I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO CATCH EVERYTHING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON EVERYBODY'S BOARD AND COMMISSION, BUT I'M GOING TO CATCH AS MANY OF THEM AS I CAN.
AND THEN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THESE ARE THE CONFLICTS, AND THEN Y'ALL CAN DECIDE WHICH ONES YOU WANT TO ALLEVIATE, WHICH ONES YOU DON'T.
WELL, I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS, I'M JUST TRYING TO ESTABLISH THIS SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, ESTABLISH BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH IT.
I WANT TO ESTABLISH IT, MOVE FORWARD AND WORK ON IT.
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IF YOU ALL VOTE ON THIS AS A WHOLE, THAT'S, IT'S YOUR POLICY, RIGHT? SO I'LL JUST STATE THAT I'M KIND OF INDIFFERENT ABOUT THAT.
I CAN BE FINE WITH THE BOARD IF THEY WANT TO TAKE A VOTE AND RECOMMEND, UH, IT WOULD JUST BE A RECOMMENDATION AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COUNCIL IS STILL COULD NOT TAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATION FROM A BOARD OR COMMISSION.
UH, BUT IT DOES GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR THEM TO VOICE.
IF THERE'S A MEMBER THAT THEY REALLY FEEL THAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR TEAM AND THEY WANT TO KEEP THAT PERSON OR FEEL LIKE THE PERSON DESERVES REEMPLOYMENT, I DON'T SEE REALLY THE PROBLEM WITH THEM STATING THAT IF THAT BOARD FEELS SO COMPELLED TO, UM, I'VE CERTAINLY SEEN AND WITNESSED BOARDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SO FAVORABLE TO SOME OF THEIR COLLEAGUES, AND I COULD SEE THAT NOT HAPPENING IN THOSE CASES AS WELL.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M BEING MAYBE THAT SAYS ALL RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD BE WRITTEN AND THEN THEY COULD JUST UPLOAD IT WITH THEIR APPLICATION.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY.
I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT WAY YOU'RE GOING TO HONOR, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WAS TO GET REAPPOINTMENT REAPPOINTED, AND SOMEBODY MAKES A RECOMMENDATION JUST TO TOUCH THAT WITH THE APPLICATION, THAT DOESN'T MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S GOING TO HAVE HOW SAY SPECIAL TREATMENT, YOU JUST SUBMITTED EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SAME POOL OF ALL THE OTHER APPLICANTS.
YOU JUST HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
IF THE BOARD MAKES IT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO RECOMMEND YOU, THEY CAN ADD IT WITH YOUR APPLICANT.
YOU CAN ADD IT WITH THE APPLICATION.
SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT Y'ALL WANT COVER LETTER RESUME AS A PART OF THEIR APPLICATION PACKET.
IT'S NOT STAFF ISN'T SCREENING ANY OF THAT.
IT'S JUST, THEY ATTACH IT AS A FALL.
SO THEN YOU WOULD JUST ADD RECOMMENDATION AS THE THIRD THING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, JUST WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE SAYING.
JUST WHATEVER ROUND ROCK, GOOD, WHATEVER THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING HERE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I SIT ON THAT SUNDAY, THERE'S THE POLICY.
AND THEN THERE'S THE APPLICATION ROUND ROCK HAS A VERY ROBUST APPLICATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM THAT APPLICATION.
UH, SO A ROBUST APPLICATION WILL HELP A LOT WITH THAT REQUIRING A RESUME OR A COVER LETTER.
YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN RETIRED AND STUFF THAT LIKE, I HAVEN'T HAD A RESUME AND CAN USE, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAKING REQUIRING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IS ALL THAT NECESSARY, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
IF THEY WANT TO ADD IT, IF THEY WANT TO ADD A RESUME, IF YOU WANT TO ADD A COVER LETTER, IF YOU WANT TO ADD RE LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, ORGANIZATION, YOU'RE A PART OF IN THE CITY WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE COLIN, BADERS WANTED TO WRITE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ME TO BE ON THE PARKS BOARD OR SOMETHING AND JUST HYPOTHETICAL, UH, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO ADD TO IT IS DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT, YOU KNOW? BUT YEAH, BUT REQUIRING IT IS A DIFFERENT THING, RIGHT? LET THE APPLICANT DO WHAT THEY FEEL IS BEST TO HELP THE COUNCIL UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE AND WHY THEY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE SEVERAL VACANCIES, BUT PER THE POLICY WE'LL HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING AND PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.
BE TO ADD AN AGENDA ITEM DOWN THE ROAD FOR US TO CALL IT AND DECIDED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE THAT HERE, CAUSE THIS IS THE POLICY ITSELF, WHICH GIVES DIRECTION TO US.
AND THEN WE CAN FOLLOW THAT DIRECTION, BRING AN ITEM BACK.
ASSUMING THE COUNCIL WANTS TO FILL THOSE SEATS INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND WE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM COMING UP ON MARCH 1ST, THAT WOULD STATE IT WOULD BE OUR OPPORTUNITY TO CALL THE MEETING, RIGHT? CALL, CALL A MEETING.
POPE WILL NEED A POST FOR NEW APPLICATIONS.
UH, GIVE US HOWEVER, 30 DAY WINDOW, AT LEAST JUST FOLLOW THE FOLLOW THE POLICY.
SO THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD ADOPT A POLICY TONIGHT AND GET THAT STARTED TOMORROW, THAT 30 DAY CLOCK.
WELL, IT'S NOT POSTED FOR HER.
Y'ALL TO CALL FOR THE ITEMS NOT POSTED FOR THAT.
I DON'T THINK WILL BE POSTED FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE POLICY ADOPTED POLICY.
SO I'M SAYING WE ADOPT THAT POLICY AND PROCEDURES TONIGHT, AND THEN THEREFORE THAT TRIGGERS THE
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APPLICATION PROCESS STARTING 30 TO START A THIRD.NO, NO, BECAUSE THAT THE POLICY SAYS COUNCIL HAS TO TAKE A VOTE TO CALL, TO OPEN THE THING TO CALL IT.
OTHERWISE I WOULD WAIT UNTIL JIM.
SO NEXT, NEXT, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF MY, LIKE LET'S PASS THE, HAVE THE APPLICATIONS AND ALL THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT.
WE WON'T HAVE TIME TO GET ALL THAT STUFF CHANGED.
I THINK I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THAT POINT ON SUNDAY.
WE'RE TO HAVE TO TOUCH BACK THIS AND GET HAMMERED DOWN ON THE APPLICATION.
WE'RE GOING TO CUT YOU BACK AND IT'S GOING TO JUST TAKE A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH THE CODE AND COMPARING THAT.
UH, SO I THINK THERE'S OTHER WORK TO BE DONE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I WAS JUST HOPING TO GET, UH, I GUESS WE ADOPT THE POLICY TONIGHT, BUT I GUESS IF WE CAN'T MAKE ANY MOVES UNTIL MARCH 1ST TO DO ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES ADOPTING THE POLICY, THEN, THEN SO BE IT PAGE, COULD THEY VOTE TO, COULD THEY ADOPT THE POLICY VOTE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND THEN MAKE THE CALL? OR IS IT BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE ISN'T COVERING FOR THAT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THEY'RE SUSPENDING THE RULE TO OPEN UP THE, YEAH.
TH THEY'RE SUSPENDING THE RULE TO REQUIRE, TO REQUIRE THEM TO MAKE THE CALL.
WHICH IS WHAT THE POLICY WOULD SAY.
POLICY SAYS FOR THEM TO CALL IT EARLY, THAT THEY NEED TO VOTE TO DO THAT.
BUT IT'S NOT POSTED FOR THAT AT A REQUIREMENT IN THERE THAT FOR THE FIRST, UM, APPLICATION, AFTER THE POLICIES ADOPTED CALL IS OPEN IMMEDIATELY, YOU KNOW, PUT A LINE IN THERE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT.
I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT'S THE NEXT, WHEN THE EARLIEST WE CAN GET IT ON WAS THAT I WAS TRYING TO GET, SO YEAH, WHEN SHE SAID IT WAS PRETTY GENIUS, HE'S JUST ADD TO THIS, THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE EFFECT AND WE'LL DO IT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING.
SO ADD A LINE TO THE POLICY THAT SAYS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE POLICY, THE CALL IS OPEN FOR THE FIRST TIME MIKE RIGHT NOW.
FOR ANY VACANCIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY MIXED EMOTION.
I PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE THE VERBIAGE THAT PAGE.
UM, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? THIS IS GOOD.
SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A CALL OR BY ADDING IT, IT TRIGGERS IT AUTOMATICALLY BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST ONE IS TRIGGERS IT ON MAC.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICY AS AMENDED MOVE BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND ED BY CUSTOMER FORCE KILLS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
CAN WE TOUGHED IT OUT? WE CROSSED A BIG BRIDGE, SO CONGRATULATIONS.
[29. Discussion of qualifications and procedures for room dedications in the new Public Safety Center. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member ]
NEXT STEP GENERAL ITEM NUMBER 29.DISCUSSION OF QUALIFICATIONS AND PROCEDURES FOR ROOM.
WE'LL GET AUTOMATICALLY DO IT.
OR YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND DO YOU CAN ALREADY CALL IT? UH, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE STAFF'S GOING TO CALL IT, SO.
UM, NEXT UP JEN, ITEM NUMBER 29, DISCUSSION OF QUALIFICATIONS AND PROCEDURES FOR ROOM DEDICATIONS IN THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER COUNSELOR FOR THANK YOU.
SHOULD WE HOLD OFF UNTIL CHIEF COMES HERE OR DO YOU THINK BECAUSE REALLY THE DIRECTION IS GOING TO BE FOR HIM.
SO I MIGHT, YEAH, I DON'T MIND POSTPONING THIS UNTIL HE CAN BE HERE.
ANY OBJECTION? AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO ALSO, UH, WHEN IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS COURAGE, MAYBE THE ASSOCIATION OF ALL, DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT? UH, SCOTT QUESTION, JUST CAUSE IT'S THEY HAVE IT.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY MORE CHIEF.
I WAS JUST MAKING SURE WE COVERED EVERYTHING, GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH.
[30. Discussion regarding Chapter 53 - Zoning Article VII.- Nonconforming Uses and Structures. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member ]
RIGHT.NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 30 DISCUSSION REGARDING CHAPTER 53 ZONING ARTICLE SEVEN.
NON-CONFORMING USES INSTRUCTURE'S CUSTOMER.
SO I WAS READING OUR CITY'S NON-CONFORMING USE INSTRUCTORS.
I'VE HAD TWO RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO ME OR AS I'M TRYING TO ASSIST THEM IN, UM, EITHER BEING ABLE TO USE THEIR HOME OR BEING ABLE TO, UM, EXPAND THEIR HOME.
AND I, I THOUGHT THIS WAS KIND OF A, UM, ISSUE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, LONGER THAN THE, UH, ZONING.
I, I CAME ACROSS SOMEBODY THAT, UM, LIVED HERE TWO YEARS BEFORE
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THE ZONING ORDINANCE WAS EVEN CREATED.AND THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS TODAY WAS TOO MOSTLY FOR THE RESIDENTS, UM, TO PROTECT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, THE, YOU KNOW, LONGER THAN MOST OF US, UM, AND WHO ARE WANT TO EITHER EXPAND THEIR HOUSE OR, UM, IN ANOTHER INSTANCE, IF THEIR HOUSE HAPPENED TO CATCH ON FIRE, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REBUILD.
AND SO MY FEAR WAS, UM, WE WOULD BE LOSING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR AWHILE.
SO I SENT OUT, UM, CITY OF SAN MARCUS'S CODE OF ORDINANCE.
AND I REALLY WANT TO, I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I, I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE RESIDENTS PRIMARILY, BUT I THINK WE ALSO SHOULD FOCUS ON THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO, TO FIGURE OUT SOME BUSINESS, UM, NON-CONFORMANCE USE STRUCTURES THAT WE SHOULD ADD TO OURS AS WELL.
UM, AND SO I WOULD SAY ON PAGE THREE, UM, IT TALKS ABOUT DISCO DISCONTINUATION.
UM, I LIKE FOR RESIDENTIAL AT DISCONTINUATION IS 12 CALENDAR MONTHS.
UM, CURRENTLY I THINK WE HAVE 90 DAYS, UM, AND, UH, YEAH.
I'M LOOKING AT SINCE SAN MARCUS FOR RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL, I SHOULD SAY.
AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT SAN MARCUS, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE STRICTLY JUST RESIDENTIAL.
UM, IT ALSO IN LETTER K I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE LETTER K IT DEFINES THE WORD ABANDONMENT, AND THEN IT HAS, UM, THREE DIFFERENT TYPES.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AND AFTER EACH, SO IF SOMEBODY FALLS INTO ALL THREE OF THESE CATEGORIES, WE COULD DEEM IT ABANDONED.
UM, IT ALSO DISCUSSED, UM, ABANDONMENT AS FAR AS IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A REPAIR.
SO JUST BECAUSE YOU REPAIR YOUR HOME, UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU ABANDONED IT, BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU A TIMEFRAME OF WHEN THAT WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, AND THEN ON SECTION 20.3, FOUR, 5.04, ZERO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, IT DISCUSSED, UM, ALTERATIONS AND EXPANSIONS OF NON-CONFORMING USES AND STRUCTURES LITTER A MORE SPECIFICALLY ALLOWS FOR 10% OF GROSS HABITABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR OF STRUCTURE AND MAY BE EXPANDED TO THE MAXIMUM SETBACK OF THE PREVIOUS RESIDENTIAL ZONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HOWEVER, 15 OR 20%, UM, FOR RESIDENTS WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND, YOU KNOW, EITHER A BEDROOM OR A KITCHEN.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, SECTION 20.3, 4 5 0 0.06, DAMAGE AND OR DESTRUCTION.
AND THIS SPECIFICALLY DISCUSS, UM, THEY CALL IT CASUALTY OR ACTS OF GOD, WHICH CURRENTLY THE CITY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR US TO BUILD.
IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE, UM, FIRE, FLOOD, WIND EXPLOSION, EARTHQUAKE, OR OTHER CASUALTIES, OR ACTS OF GOD, UM, THEIR ORDINANCE ALLOWS IT TO BE REBUILT AS LONG AS IT FALLS INTO THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS THAT.
ANYBODY HAVE DISCUSSIONS CAN TELL US WHAT YOUR OKAY, WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TO ALLOW, UM, RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE AND THAT ARE NON-CONFORMING TO EXPAND ON THEIR HOMES BY W WITH LIMITATIONS.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD VERTICAL.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD BN BEYOND, UH, YOUR PROPERTY.
UH, THIS ONE IS I THINK A 10% YOU CAN ENLARGE YOUR HOUSE BY 10%.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT 15 OR 20% BECAUSE THOSE OLDER HOMES AREN'T AS BIG AS IT AS A NEWER HOME.
SO IF IT'S A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND WE WANT TO LET IT EXPAND 10%, THAT'S ONLY A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF BOTHERS ME TO KNOW THAT IF A HOUSE WOULD HAVE BURNED DOWN FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAD BEEN HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS, 60 YEARS, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REBUILD THEIR HOMES.
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JUST TO GET RID OF THE WHOLE THING.I WAS LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS.
CAUSE I KNOW IT HURTS OUR RESIDENTS, NOTHING, AND THIS NONCONFORMITY HELPS OUR RESIDENTS.
SO, BUT THEN I WAS REALISTIC AND I WAS LIKE, WE DO NEED THIS FOR THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE REZONE THAT WE'RE REALLY ABLE TO MAKE THAT EVENTUALLY UNIFORM.
AND I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOAL OF THE CITY AS WELL.
SO IF, IF, UH, IF, UH, IF THERE'S A RESIDENCE THAT IS, UH, BEING USED AS A RESIDENCE IN NON LEGAL NONCONFORMING WAY, BUT PERHAPS HAS A DIFFERENT ZONING, WHICH WOULD CAUSE IT NOT CONFORMING.
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO STILL BE ABLE TO DO ADDITIONS AND EXPANSIONS ON THEIR HOME FROM 10% TO WE'LL SAY, 20% IS WHAT YOU SAID.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT PERSONALLY.
SO IF IT'S 10% CURRENTLY AND THEY WANT TO MAKE IT 20%, BUT YOU CAN'T CHANGE, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE USE.
SO YOU CAN'T ADD, YOU KNOW, IF NOTHING GETS TRIGGERED, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL USE, UH, OUT OF IT, I SUPPOSE I HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT.
SO MELISSA, I'D BE LIKE THE AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING INCLUDED.
UM, SO FOR SAN MARCUS, THEY HAVE THAT IN THERE AND IT'S A PAGE SEVEN OF 10 SECTION 20.3, FOUR, 5.0 4 0 4, 0 MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF NONCONFORMANCE.
SO I GUESS I CAN JUST GIVE YOU THE SECTIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN HAVE STAFF WORK ON IT AND BRING IT BACK AS WELL AS INCLUDE ANY KIND OF, UM, NON-CONFORMING USE STRUCTURES FROM, I THINK THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FOR BUSINESSES.
CAUSE I'D LIKE TO SEE BOTH OF THOSE BE UPDATED, UH, THE ACCIDENT, GOD, UH, PORTION.
I, I DON'T, THAT'S A, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE I, THERE ARE SO MANY AREAS.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE, UM, UM, A SIGN THAT'S LEGAL NONCONFORMING, AND THAT SIGN FALLS DOWN, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PUT IT BACK UP.
UM, BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS KIND OF STRANGE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR IT, IF IT'S NONCONFORMING AND IT LOSES ITS VALUE, YOU HAVE TO BRING, BRING THE REPLACEMENT UP TO CODE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF THE BULBS GO OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S, YOU'RE STILL, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO REPLACE THE BULBS.
SO ACTUALLY THIS, THE DAMAGE AND DESTRUCTION DOES COVER THAT.
UM, IT SAYS, UH, IF I CAN READ IT, IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND, IF A NON-CONFORMING RESIDENTIAL OR NON-RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES DAMAGED OR DESTROYED BY FIRE, FLOOD, WIND EXPLOSION, EARTHQUAKE, OR OTHER CASUALTY, OR ACT OF GOD, THE PUBLIC ENEMY OR OTHER CAUSE THAT IS BEYOND THE CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
AND THAT COULD NOT OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY REASONABLE CARE AND MAINTENANCE OF THE STRUCTURE.
THE STRUCTURE MAY BE RESTORED, AN OCCUPANT OCCUPANCY AT THE TIME OF DESTRUCTION MAY BE RESTORED.
SO I THINK WHAT IT'S TRYING TO SAY IS, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT, AS LONG AS YOU ARE KEEPING UP WITH YOUR HOUSE AND IT'S NOT LIKE, UM, YOU HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH THE WIRING TO THE ELECTRICITY THAT YOU CAN REBUILD MY QUESTION.
WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE, WILL IT APPLY THE 50% DAMAGE TO THIS, TO, UM, FOR THOSE, IT WAS, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT, SO.
AND HIS HAND WAS HERE AND THEN IT WAS HERE AND THEN IT WAS HERE TOWARDS THE END.
WE GET A LITTLE LOOSER AND THAT'S OKAY.
THE REASON WHY WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD IS AGAIN, BECAUSE OF NERIAH, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALSO AS WELL IS, IS AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THEY NEED TO UPGRADE THEIR HOME.
WHETHER IT'S ADDING A WHEELCHAIR RAMP OR REMODELING THEIR BATHROOM OR ADDING ONTO THE KITCHEN BECAUSE OF ANY KIND OF, UH, DISABILITIES AS PEOPLE GET OLDER IN LIFE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FOREST KALE IS TRYING TO GET AT, BY IF THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN, THEY BEEN LIVING THERE AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO USE THIS AS A RESIDENCE, UH, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AT LEAST LET THEM BE ABLE TO REMODEL THEIR HOME AS NEEDED FOR REPAIRS.
WHILE YOU, UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T MIND YOUR, UM, RECOMMENDATION OF WORKING WITH STAFF TO BRING SOMETHING BACK.
I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE IMPLICATION OR RATIFICATION OF VARIOUS THINGS ARE LIKE I'M SAYING, CAUSE IT GOES ACROSS A LOT.
SO WE STAFF NEED TIME TO PREPARE SOME, SOME KIND OF, UH, ADVICE TOWARDS US ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS MAYBE A AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNTS, REMEMBER TO BE, WAS ALSO WORKING WITH YOU ON THIS.
I DON'T KNOW, BASED ON WHAT HE JUST SAID, IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS SOME KIND OF COLLABORATION I'D BE COMPLETELY OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE TWO OF YOU WORKING WITH STAFF, SITTING DOWN TO WORK OUT THE NUANCES, GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
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COUNCIL, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM.OH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
UM, I GUESS FOR ME, IT'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAD BUILT THEIR HOUSES BEFORE THESE ORDINANCES WERE IN PLACE WHEN THEY BUILT THEIR HOMES, IT WAS IN THE ATTEMPT TO LIVE THERE, BE THERE AND DO WHAT THEY WANTED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND WHEN THESE OVERLAYS CAME OVER THEIR PROPERTIES, I DON'T THINK THEY SAW IT COMING AND TO RESTRICT WHAT THEY CAN DO THERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE I JUST FEEL LIKE THESE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY FIRST MOVED INTO THEIR HOUSES, THEY WERE LIKE, MAN, I'M GOING TO LIVE HERE FOREVER.
AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T AFFECT MY NEIGHBORS AND FOR IT TO, FOR AN OVERLAY TO GO OVER IT.
AND THEY'LL BE REALLY, REALLY RESTRICTIVE ON WHAT THEY CAN DO THERE.
AND I, I JUST THINK ABOUT THAT COULD HAPPEN TO ME.
SOMEBODY COULD COME BACK AND PUT AN OVERLAY OR MY PROPERTY, MY PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN A FAMILY FOR, YOU KNOW, DECADES.
AND IT SCARES ME THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN TO ME AS WELL.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ME, ALL MY NEIGHBORS, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN IN THE SEA FOR A LONG TIME, BUILT THEIR HOMES EARLY ON, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT US? BUT, UH, THANK YOU.
UM, I, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO WEIGH IN.
SO THE, THE COMBINATION WOULD BE THE FEEDBACK WE WOULD GET WOULD BE THE SUGGESTIONS OF WHOEVER'S WORKING WITH STAFF.
UM, BUT STAFF WOULD ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, EXPECTATION FROM COUNCIL TO GIVE US THEIR OPINION ON, ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, I'D LIKE TO, SORRY, CAN I, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO GET DIRECTIONS TO UPDATE THE, UM, NON-CONFORMING USES AND STRUCTURES FOR BUSINESSES AS WELL USING SAN ANTONIO ORDINANCE.
WELL, SAN MARCUS IS GOING TO BE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND THEN FOR THE BUSINESS ASPECTS, WE'LL DO SAN ANTONIO, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, SAN ANTONIO HAS SOME PROVISIONS IN THEIR ORDINANCE THAT I RECOMMEND YOU CONSIDER FOR A DISCONTINUANCE OF NON-CONFORMING USES.
IF YOU WANT TO APPLY IT TO JUST COMMERCIAL THAT'S WITH YOUR DISCRETION.
BUT I THINK IT, UM, THERE'S SOME CASE LAW THAT IF WE, IF WE CHANGE IT TO WHAT SAN ANTONIO USES, IT'S A BIT MORE DEFINED.
IT GIVES YOU A BIT MORE DEFINITION AS TO WHEN THOSE THINGS WOULD END BASED ON A PERIOD OF TIME PAST.
WELL, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU COULD BRING BACK ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT UNDER THE NON-CONFORMING USES.
SO AS LONG AS EVERYBODY'S HAD THAT TIME, SO THE MORE YOU WANT TO CHANGE, THE MORE CANS OF WORMS THERE ARE THE LONGER IT WILL TAKE TO BRING IT BACK.
BUT, UM, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO REQUIRE IT, TO BE BROUGHT BACK AT A CERTAIN POINT, JUST WHENEVER Y'ALL ARE READY.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, DIRECT, UH, STAFF TO WORK WITH, UH, CUTS WHERE FLOORS KALE AND THE COUNSELOR MEMBER TOBY IS TO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO NON-CONFORMING USES, UH, IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER ELSA.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM 31 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE DIRECTION TO ESTABLISH A DATE FOR A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
I FORGOT THAT ADAM WAS ALREADY ON THERE.
SO I GUESS WE DON'T EVEN NEED IT.
NO, I FORGOTTEN NOW THAT WE ADDED THAT ITEM BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE DON'T NEED 31 ANYMORE.
[32. Discussion and possible direction regarding Minutes Policy for all City of Kyle Boards, Commissions, and City Council. ~ Jennifer Holm, City Secretary ]
NEXT STEP, GENDER ITEM, NUMBER 32.I CAN'T BELIEVE IT WAS ALREADY POSTED A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING MINUTES POLICY FOR ALL CIF, CARDBOARDS COMMISSIONS AND CITY COUNCIL, UH, MS. JENNIFER HALL, MAYOR COUNCIL, JENNIFER HOME CITY SECRETARY FOR THE RECORD, IT'S ME I'M SO, UM, AND THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT IT FOR MINUTES OR RECORDING OF OPEN MEETING REQUIRED.
IT SAYS A GOVERNMENTAL BODY SHALL PREPARE AND KEEP MINUTES OR MAKE A RECORDING OF EACH OPEN MEETING OF THE BODY.
WE CURRENTLY, EVERY TIME WE MEET FOR COUNCIL AND FOR SEVERAL OTHER BOARDS THAT WE HAVE, THE THERE'S TWO RECORDINGS MADE.
ONE OF THEM IS A LOCAL COPY, AND ONE OF THEM IS MADE THROUGH OUR PROVIDER, SWAG IT.
THAT'S ALREADY CREATED, UM, ALL THE ONES THAT ARE SUCCESSFULLY DONE THROUGH SWAG THAT ALSO COME WITH A TRANSCRIPT THAT'S DOWNLOADABLE.
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IT TAKES A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THE MEETING FOR THAT TRANSCRIPT TO BECOME AVAILABLE, BUT IT IS THERE.AND, UM, THEY'RE TIMESTAMPED SO THAT YOU CAN JUMP TO YOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND THAT HAS GREATLY REDUCED THE NEED TO HAVE WRITTEN MINUTES OF EVERY MEETING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UM, NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING LATELY.
UM, THE MINUTES, I KNOW A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, ONE OF OUR SETS OF MINUTES WAS 17 OR 18 PAGES LONG.
UM, IT'S VERY, VERY TIME CONSUMING ON ME AND MY ONE OTHER STAFF MEMBER, UM, TO DO THESE MINUTES.
AND SO I WANTED TO FIND OUT IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF ME BRINGING BACK A POLICY THAT BASICALLY IF WE HAVE, UM, A RECORDING, THEN THERE'S NO WRITTEN MINUTES TAKEN.
AND WE WOULD JUST CONFIRM THAT THE RECORDING IS SAVED IN A FORMAT THAT CAN BE, UM, VIEWED AND STORED LONG-TERM.
AND THEN IF WE HAVE A MEETING, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, OUR WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD OVER THE WEEKEND THAT'S THAT THERE IS NO RECORDING FOR THEN WE WOULD STILL DO WRITTEN MINUTES FOR MEETINGS.
SO BASICALLY ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA, AS YOU WOULD STILL HAVE AN ITEM TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES, BUT IT WOULD BE A VIDEO RECORDING OR IT WOULD BE WRITTEN MINUTES.
THOUGHTS, CUSTOMER FORCE, KALE.
UM, MAN, YOU'VE TOUCHED BASE ABOUT THIS ISSUE BEFORE.
UM, I WANT TO SAY THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO TAKE MINUTES.
UM, I, A HUNDRED PERCENT KNOW THAT YOU ARE TOO OVERWHELMED BY ALL THESE MINUTES.
SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE DON'T, THAT WE FEEL THE NEED FOR A MINUTES, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER OUTSOURCING THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
THEY'RE GOING TO WATCH THE VIDEO AND TRANSCRIBE IT OR FIGURE IT OUT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE? AND IT WAS DISASTROUS.
TH THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS THAT NOBODY TAKES MINUTES FOR THESE MEETINGS BETTER THAN JENNIFER DOES.
SHE TAKES EXTREMELY GOOD MINUTES AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT.
SHE'S ASKED ME FOR YEARS, FOR YEARS TO CHANGE UP THE POLICY.
AND I'M ALWAYS SAID NO, BECAUSE I'VE FOUND THE MINUTES TO BE HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO RESEARCH.
AND THEY'RE HELPFUL IN A WAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING A VIDEO FILE ISN'T AS MUCH, BUT THE TRANSCRIPT METHOD MIGHT BE.
AND ALSO WITH SWAGGY, WE HAVE THIS SOUND SEARCH CAPABILITY, WHICH MEANS THAT IF IT'S A VERBALIZED WORD, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEARCH FOR WHERE THAT POPS UP IN THE MINUTE AND THEN MEETING AND IT'LL DIRECT YOU TO THAT SPOT.
SO I JUST FEEL LIKE A LOT WITH TECHNOLOGY, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE COME ACROSS.
UM, AND THEN, AND THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THAT FOR OUR STORED VIDEO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD HAVE ALL THOSE FUNCTIONS FOR THE STORED PERMANENT FILE.
UM, I CAN LOOK INTO WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS JUMPING AHEAD TO ITEMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE VIDEO FILE WOULD STORE THAT INFORMATION, BUT IT IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT IF, EVEN IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, WHEN YOU FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, AS TIME GOES ON, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, TO FIND THAT.
UM, THE CURRENT MEETING THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, DO YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF PROVIDING THAT TRANSCRIPT OFF OF THIS MEETING RIGHT HERE? YOU DO HAVE THAT.
I WILL HAVE IT, BUT IT TAKES A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THE MEETING.
BUT YOU DON'T CURRENTLY, YOU DON'T ORDER IT, IS IT BECAUSE OF, IT'S LIKE A, IT'S LIKE A TALK TO TEXT TYPE TRANSCRIPTION.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO SAY THAT YOU SAID IT, BUT IT'LL JUST BE A LONG STRING OF IT'S LIKE A TEXT DOC.
THEY MIGHT GO ALONG WITH THE VIDEO.
DOES IT, IT, DOES IT GO WITH THE VIDEO TIMESTAMP? AND THEN THE NOTE FILE IS NOT A TIMESTAMPED TYPE THING.
WELL, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME GET TO GET TO THE POINT.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS HOW ABOUT WE TRY IT FOR THIS ONE? YOU, YOU FOLLOW THAT PROCESS AND POST IT FOR THE NEXT ONE AND IT'LL GIVE US A CHANCE TO LOOK AT WHATEVER THE MINUTES MIGHT BE.
DETERMINE THERE, CAUSE I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE.
YOU WOULD BE ADOPTING THE VIDEO AS THE MINUTES, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY STATE LAW.
WELL, IT'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
I MEAN, I COULD, I COULD PUT THE TRANSCRIPT TRANSCRIPTS, I CAN PUT THE TRANSCRIPT AND THE BACKUP MATERIAL IF YOU'D LIKE, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, BUT I CAN'T PUT THE VIDEO IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL.
DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO HER TRYING THAT FOR THE NEXT ONE? PUT THE, PUT IT IN THERE.
I WOULDN'T MIND, UH, JUST TO SEE IT, CAUSE I I'D HATE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING WITHOUT SEEING
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THE PROCESS.SO IF WE COULD PLAY WITH IT, IT'D BE GREAT.
YOU KNOW, UH, SEND US A LINK, UH, TO THE MINUTES.
I MEAN, TO THE VIDEO AND DO THE TRANSCRIPT.
I'M, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE TRANSCRIPT, LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
WHAT I CAN DO IMMEDIATELY IS SEND Y'ALL THE ONE FROM THE LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSCRIPT FROM THAT.
AND SO YOU CAN ALREADY SEE WHAT WE HAVE.
UM, EVERY TIME WE POST OUR COUNCIL AGENDAS, THERE'S A LINK TO THE NEW SOUND SEARCH IT'S ON THE CALENDAR EVENT, ON OUR CITY'S WEBSITE FOR ALL OF THE PUBLIC AND ANY OF YOU OR STAFF TO YOU.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I THINK WHATEVER WE COULD DO, JENNIFER, TO HELP YOU OUT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT TAKES DAYS TO GET IT DONE AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT OTHER PROJECTS YOU GOT GOING ON.
SO I DON'T OBJECT FOR TRYING TO USE NEW TECHNOLOGY TO HELP WITH THAT.
AND I THINK IF WE UTILIZE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, GET MORE OF THE MINUTES OF PEOPLE, EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING VERSUS TRYING TO TYPE OR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY WE ACTUALLY SAID.
OR DIDN'T SAY IT'D BE MORE ACCURATE BECAUSE THERE'LL BE ON VIDEO, IT'D BE ON FILM AND IT WILL BE, UM, ON A RECORDING.
AND WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO LEARN TO UTILIZE THE MICROPHONE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN CALL IN ORDER WHEN WE NEED TO THAT WAY IT'S SPECIFIED IN THE RECORDING.
DOES IT REQUIRE A POLICY CHANGE FOR US TO DO THAT? YOU'RE SAYING REALLY DOESN'T.
UM, BUT I THINK INTERNALLY WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IF THE VIDEO, IF THERE ISN'T A VIDEO RECORDING, THEN WE DO NEED TO TAKE THOSE MINUTES.
UM, AND IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE TO HAVE A POLICY TO GO WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S ALLOWED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
I JUST YOUR POINT RIGHT THERE, THAT BALL CAN NEVER BE DROPPED, UH, THAT ALWAYS HAS TO HAPPEN, UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT IF IT'S NOT RECORDED, THAT IT HAS TO BE, I PERSONALLY LIKED THE VIDEO.
I'VE COME BACK AND WATCH WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SAID MANY A TIMES.
AND I HAVE PREFERRED THAT THAN READING IT.
CAUSE AS YOU SAID, IT'S PARAPHRASED.
UM, YEAH, I I'M, I LIKED THE MIRROR SUGGESTION OF SEEING HOW THIS MIGHT LOOK, UH, TO KIND OF GET A FEEL OF IT.
SO THE COUNCIL CAN SEE THAT AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION, BUT I CAN ALREADY TELL, I THINK THAT'D BE FORWARD, RIGHT? WELL, WHY DON'T WE SAY THIS FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, FOR THIS ONE'S POST POST IN THE MINUTES, WHATEVER YOU THINK BASED ON THIS TECHNOLOGY.
AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE IT UP IN THE MINUTES, WE'LL JUST UNDERSTAND THAT IT'LL BE A DIFFERENT POTENTIAL BACKUP AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE YOUR FEEDBACK, WHETHER WE PASS THEM OR SAY, WE WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR GREAT SUMMATIONS.
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I'M THE OLD GUY HERE.
SO I STILL LIKE BOOK AND PAPER IN HAND, BUT UM, I KNOW YOU'RE REALLY SWAMPED AND YOU GOT A LOT GOING ON, SO I'LL DO MY BEST.
I'VE GOT, YEAH, THOSE, THOSE, THOSE MINUTES ARE GREAT BECAUSE THEY, SHE, WHENEVER THERE'S DISCUSSION, ESPECIALLY AFTER EMOTIONS, SHE, SHE SAYS, WHO SAYS WHAT? AND THEN WHENEVER WE CALL VOTES, THE REASON I SAY, WHO MADE THE MOTION AND WHO MADE THE SECOND IS THAT IT GETS ALL RECORDED VERY QUICKLY SO THAT YOU CAN GO BACK THROUGH AND TALLY.
I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S A LOT, JENNIFER.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING DILIGENT AND CARLA, UH, WORKING ON ALL THOSE MINUTES.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS,
[33. Discussion and possible direction regarding establishing a Keep Kyle Beautiful Committee. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation ]
I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.UH, NEXT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 33 DISCUSSION AND UH, POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING ESTABLISHING A KEY KYLE BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE.
MS. ESPINOSA, THANKS FOR STICKING WITH US.
MARIANNA SPINOZA PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS WE WERE WRITING OUR RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE KEEP KYLA BEAUTIFUL PROGRAM, WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY INCLUDE A STATEMENT ABOUT HOW THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE KEEP PILE, BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU GUYS, WITHOUT EVEN EXPLAINING WHAT THE COMMITTEE WAS OR THE DUTIES OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO WITH THAT SAID, BEFORE WE INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT, THE CITY KYLE OF THE CITY COUNCIL WILL RECOGNIZE THE KEEP KYLE BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE AS AN OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF KYLE.
WE WANTED TO DISCUSS OUR THOUGHTS FOR HOW THE FIRST COMMITTEE WOULD BE FORMED.
WE BEGAN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL AFFILIATE IN MAY OF 2020.
AND OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PARK BOARD AND STAFF TO GET EVERYTHING WE NEED TO FINALLY FINISH THE PROCESS WE MET WITH THE KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL ORGANIZATION.
AND WE ALSO PRESENTED THE PROGRAM TO OUR PARKS BOARD A COUPLE OF TIMES.
AND SO WITH KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL, UM, KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL, HIS RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVAL.
AND WE PRESENTED THE IDEA OF THE PARKS BOARD, THE PARKS BOARD, AGREE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE PARKS BOARD SERVE AS THE FIRST COMMITTEE FOR KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL.
SO THEN IF, IF WE WANTED TO LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD,
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CHANGE IT WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED, UM, OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR TO SERVE ON THAT COMMITTEE.WE COULD CHANGE IT LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, BUT STARTING, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE PARKS BOARD SERVES AS THE FIRST COMMITTEE FOR KEEP KYLE BEAUTIFUL.
SO BEFORE WE BROUGHT THAT RESOLUTION, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT HERE.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT W WHAT WOULD THE COMMITTEE BE TASKED WITH WITH, UH, FROM A DECISION MAKING STANDPOINT, AND WOULD IT BE RECOMMENDATIONS TO, IS THIS JUST LIKE A NEW BOARD AND COMMISSION ESSENTIALLY, UM, KIND OF LIKE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, IT JUST REC RECOMMENDING BODY, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE THE TASK, UM, LINED OUT FOR WHEN I ATTACH IT, WHAT'S THE RESOLUTION, RIGHT.
BUT JUST, UM, SUPPORTING STAFF IN, COMING UP WITH THE EVENTS FOR KEY PADDLE.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE TO REPORT EVERY MONTH TO KEEP KIND OF BEAUTIFUL AND ANNUALLY.
THE SECOND QUESTION IS, DOES IT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE COUNCIL'S BUDGETING PROCESS FOR BEAUTIFICATION OR THE DECISIONS WE MAKE TOWARDS BEAUTIFICATION CONTRACTS FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, DOES IT IMPACT, SO THE COMMITTEE DOES NOT, BUT WE DO PLAN ON PUTTING SOME BUDGET REQUESTS IN FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AS FAR AS JUST ADDING A LINE FOR THE KEEP PILOT BEAUTIFUL PROGRAM.
THAT I, I'M JUST, I'M WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THE COUNCIL IS WANTING TO TAKE INITIATIVE TOWARDS BEAUTIFICATION, IT'S, THAT'S A HUGELY IMPORTANT FACTOR FOR ME.
AND I KNOW SOME AS WELL THAT WE'RE ABLE TO STILL TAKE THAT INITIATIVE AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO TO A COMMITTEE TO MAKE A PROPOSAL, BUT WE'D STILL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT, UH, DIRECTLY FROM HERE.
THEY OPERATE JUST LIKE THE PARK BOARD, JUST A RECOMMENDING BODY.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DOES ANYBODY OBJECT TO HER? UH, UH, MISS ESPINOSA, BRINGING THIS THIS BACK, I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
[34. Discussion and possible direction regarding the Rules of Council including, but not limited to, meeting lengths and end times. ~ Ashlee Bradshaw, Council Member ]
NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM 34 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE DIRECTION REGARDING THE RULES OF COUNCIL, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO MEETING LINKS AND END TIMES CUSTOMER BRADSHAW.I WILL BE THE LONE WOLF FOR THIS ONE.
UH, I BROUGHT THIS UP FOR A FEW REASONS.
UM, JUST LARGELY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT THE TIME THAT OUR MEETINGS END IS JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE.
WE'RE NONE OF US ARE FUNCTIONING AT FULL CAPACITY AND WE ALL ARE MENTALLY FATIGUED, PHYSICALLY FATIGUED, AND THEN HAVE TO MAKE THESE LARGE DECISIONS FOR THE CITY AND THEN GET IN OUR CAR AND DRIVE HOME.
UM, SO I WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD AND REALLY JUST DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL TO COME UP WITH THE BEST PRACTICE ON HOW WE CAN BE MOST EFFICIENT, UH, AND INTENTIONAL WITH THE TIME THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER SO THAT WE, OUR MEETINGS SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THE CLOCK AT 1143 IN THE EVENING.
UM, AND WE CAN BE AT HOME IN OUR BED INSTEAD.
UM, SO I HAVE THREE SUGGESTIONS, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY LOVE TO HEAR SOME OTHER PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON IT.
UM, AND DEFINITELY OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL.
MY FIRST SUGGESTION WOULD BE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TIMELY MEETINGS THAT ARE NOT ENDING AT MIDNIGHT WOULD BE TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TO COMMENT AND QUESTION.
UM, MY SECOND SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO LIMIT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE SPENT ON EACH AGENDA ITEM.
AND MY THIRD SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO CLEARLY DEFINE, START AND STOP TIMES FOR THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHICH WOULD ALSO CREATE THE OPTION TO START EARLIER AND EARLIER AS WELL.
YOU SAY THAT LAST TIME WE DID CLEARLY DEFINE, START AND STOP TIMES, WHICH WOULD GIVE US THE OPTION TO START EARLIER AND EARLIER WE START OUR MEETING EARLIER THAN LIKE BOB.
WELL, THAT'S WHY THE PAY SITUATION COMES IN BECAUSE THE BIGGER THE CITIES GET, THE MORE THEY START MEETING IN THE AFTERNOON, LIKE EVEN SAN MARCOS WORKSHOPS IN THE AFTERNOON, I BELIEVE.
I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT NECESSARILY AGREEING, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN TO THE BIGGER YOUR TOWN.
I KNOW THE BEAR AND I'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AND, UH, IN THE PAST WHEN HE SAID FIVE, O'CLOCK IT JUST, I WAS LIKE, OH, FIVE 30, I'M GOOD.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M GOOD WITH MAYBE FIGURING OUT WHAT OUR QUITTING TIME WAS, BUT A LOT OF US, THIS IS A SECOND JOB FOR US, I GUESS THAT IT'S A VOLUNTEER MORE OF A VOLUNTEER POSITION, ANYTHING ELSE? SO STARTING EARLIER AND, AND PUTTING THAT BURDEN ON MY REAL JOB WOULD BE HARD FOR ME.
UM, CAUSE I'M ALREADY BOOKING IT TO GET HERE, YOU KNOW, AFTER
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WORK.AND I DON'T WANT TO BE LEAVING WORK EARLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO IS FOR MY FAMILY.
SO THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY HARD.
UH, BUT MAYBE YOU GETTING A HARD IN TIME.
I WOULD BE AGREEABLE TO, UM, BUT STARTING EARLIER, I JUST COULDN'T AGREE TO THAT.
AND, UH, THESE ARE, WE MAKE BELOW MINIMUM WAGE HERE AT THIS JOB AND, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, REQUIRE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RUN FOR THESE POSITIONS TO HAVE TO START EARLIER AS WELL.
SO BECAUSE OF HER, ALL RIGHT, I'M HEARING ABOUT STARTING EARLIER, BUT I ALSO HEAR A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS GO TO OTHER MEETINGS AS WELL, UH, IN AFTERNOONS, SOMETIMES MORNINGS AND SO FORTH.
THE WAY I LOOK AT TUESDAY MEETINGS IS GAME DAY.
IT IS GAME DAY WHERE WE MAKE THESE HARD DECISIONS.
AND, UM, IF IT, IF IT MEANS THAT WE S WE LOOK AT CHANGING THE TIMES, THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.
UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, MS. BRADSHAW MAKES GOOD POINTS ABOUT, AS IT GETS LATE.
IT'S NOT SO MUCH PERSONALLY FOR ME, I CAN BE ABLE TO HANDLE MY SCHEDULE AS MUCH AS I'M UP EARLY.
I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR TWO YEARS NOW, BUT I THINK IT GETS TO WHERE WE ARE MAKING A GOOD POINT ABOUT, UH, MISS HOME HERE HAVING TO HAVE THE MINUTES AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE CORRECT, BECAUSE IT, THE MEETINGS TRACK ON, OR, OR WE HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS, WHICH THEY ARE VALID, BUT I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH A, UM, A FORM OF STREAMLINING THIS FOR EVERYBODY.
CAUSE I ALSO CONSIDER STAFF ALSO CONSIDER OUR AUDIENCE OUT THERE FIRST AND FOREMOST.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE LIKE, NO, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN EXTRA MEETING ON A WEDNESDAY.
UH, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE ABLE TO OWN SPEND TIME WITH FAMILY.
THAT'S TRUE, BUT WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND, AND I DO HEAR A LOT OF THIS.
WELL, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T GET PAID MUCH FOR THIS, OR THIS IS THE JOB WE SIGNED UP FOR THIS.
IF IT WAS A MATTER OF THE STIPEND OR WE'RE NOT GETTING, UH, EXTRA INCOME FOR THIS, CAUSE WE'RE DOING A LOT, REMEMBER THIS WAS OUR CHOICE TO DO THIS.
AND IT'S MY CHOICE STILL TO BE HERE AT MIDNIGHT IT'S BUT I'M DOING IT FOR MY RESONANCE.
I'M DOING IT FOR THE CITY AND I'M DOING IT FOR EVERYBODY HERE TO BE SURE THAT I CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND, AND SERVE MY COMMUNITY.
SO I THINK WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IS I HEAR THE, THE, THE CALL TO WHERE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO IMPROVE AND BE MORE EFFICIENT IN THE MEETINGS.
AND IT GETS LONG IN THE NIGHT.
AND, AND I THINK WE LOSE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD IT FROM FIVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE BY NINE 30, WE LOST PRETTY MUCH MOST OF OUR AUDIENCE.
SO LET'S TRY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT IF IT MEANS PUTTING A TIME ON AN IN TIME OR LIMITING AGAIN, UH, THE AMOUNT OF, UH, TIME THAT WE SPEND ON BUDGET ITEMS OR A GIN ITEMS. I WATCH C-SPAN ALL THE TIME THEY GOT, OKAY, SOMEBODY GOT FIVE MINUTES TO DO THEIR SPILL.
AND IF THEY'VE GOT OVER FIVE MINUTES, THEY COVER IT OVER TO SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIND A BETTER WAY TO STREAMLINE AND BE MORE EFFICIENT IN THE MEETINGS.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE MS. PRECIADO IS GETTING AT, UM, CUSTOMER ELSA.
I AM SOMEONE WHO WORKS, BUT, UM, AS COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS SAID, WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AND SO IF TUESDAY WE NEED TO START AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
I WILL BE HERE AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
IF THAT MEANS THAT WE DON'T STAY HERE UNTIL MIDNIGHT OR 11.
UM, MY I'M BLESSED ENOUGH THAT MY, UM, SCHEDULE IS FLEXIBLE.
AND SO LET ME RE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS WEEK, THAT FRIDAY, MOST EVERYBODY WENT, UM, TO FRISCO AND HUNG OUT AND THEY WERE OKAY WITH TWO OF US STAYING BEHIND.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I AM PERFECTLY OKAY.
IF TWO PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING BECAUSE OUR SCHEDULES DON'T ALLOW FOR IT.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FAIR, BUT, UM, THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.
WE CANNOT ALL BE EVERYWHERE AT THE SAME TIME.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS COLLECTIVELY.
I APPRECIATE MS. BRUSH-OFF BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE IT IS EXHAUSTING.
I WAS EXHAUSTED STAYING UP READING THE VERY LONG AGENDA, UM, WHICH IS MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN ALSO DO, TRY TO LIMIT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S SO LONG AND I HAVE TO DO MY DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, SO I THINK THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO INCLUDE AN EARLIER MEETING TO INCLUDE TWO DAYS A WEEK TOO.
AND I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO DO ALL THIS, BUT THESE ARE OPTIONS.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SCOFF AT PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE AGREE WITH.
I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY OKAY TO JUST BRAINSTORM
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AND BRING THESE IDEAS.CAUSE ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER PERSON LIKES.
SO I AM OPEN TO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING TO BAKE IT.
SO WE'RE NOT HERE TILL MIDNIGHT, WHETHER THAT BE TWO DAYS, WHETHER THAT BE, UH, STARTING EARLIER, UM, WHATEVER IT TAKES FOR US TO GET THROUGH ALL THIS STUFF, UM, AND BE ABLE TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, I'LL DO WHATEVER I HAVE TO DO.
CAUSE WE'RE A PARTIALLY, I JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER TO V AS IN COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KEL SAID, UM, I MEAN, WE, OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL, WE SIGN UP FOR THIS, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, MAKE SURE THAT WE GO THROUGH ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS AND WE ARE MENTALLY CAPABLE TO MAKE THE SAME DECISIONS FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END.
AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS BEING SO TIRED THAT I'M OVERSEEING SOMETHING.
SO MAYBE STARTING EARLIER IS SOMETHING THAT I WILL BE, I MEAN, I WORK UNTIL FIVE 30, BUT TUESDAYS I NOT HAVE TO ADJUST MY SCHEDULE FOR THIS MEETING.
UM, MAYBE SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE TO DO TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO THEN THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO.
THE OTHER THING I BELIEVE IS, UM, IF, IF WE ALL READ THE AGENDA, WHICH I'M SURE WE ALL DO, AND I'M THE NEWEST PERSON IN HERE AND GET OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BEFORE COMING HERE.
AND THE DISCUSSION BECOMES A LITTLE, UH, LESS LONG WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS IN BETWEEN US AND THAT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP SPEED THE PROCESS WHEN WE ARE MAKING A DECISION, I BELIEVE THERE IS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AND IN STORIES THAT MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY NECESSARY TO HAVE, AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HELP.
I DON'T KNOW, SHORTEN THE TIME.
UM, MY, MY THOUGHTS ARE PRETTY MUCH IN AGREEMENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, WE DID SPLIT TUESDAY TO THURSDAY AND IT WAS PROBABLY IN MY ESTIMATION ABOUT THE SAME LENGTH, THIS ONE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE.
THE REASON FOR SPLITTING THE LAST MEETING UP, WHICH WAS OF, WE HADN'T DONE IT BEFORE, BUT IT WAS TO TRY TO MAKE IT SO THAT WE WEREN'T STAYING SO LATE.
PLUS WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT GOING ON BEFORE AND AFTER.
UH, SO, AND THAT, I THINK THAT WORKED OUT REALLY, REALLY WELL, FRANKLY, BECAUSE WE ENDED AROUND 10 O'CLOCK THE FIRST NIGHT.
AND THEN THE SECOND NIGHT WE CAME BACK WITH COMPLETELY REFRESHED, UH, AND WE GOT RIGHT TO BUSINESS AND THAT MEETING WAS JUST A COUPLE HOURS.
SO MIGHT SAY AS A THREE OR FOUR HOUR MEETING AND THEN A TWO HOUR MEETING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, TWO OR THREE, AND THOSE WERE EASIER WITHOUT DOUBT.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND I DO GAIN IN FATIGUE.
I DO FIND MYSELF WANTING TO RUSH THROUGH ITEMS BECAUSE I'M EXHAUSTED NOT WANTING TO LIMIT DEBATE TOWARDS THE END.
SO THERE'S COMMENTARY ABOUT THAT.
THE REASON WHY I DIDN'T DO IT THIS TIME IS BECAUSE THE COUNCIL HAS SPENT ALL DAY, FRIDAY, ALL DAY, SATURDAY, ALL DAY, SUNDAY, UH, OR HALF DAY, SUNDAY.
AND THEN HERE WE ARE WITH THE LATE MEETING ON TUESDAY, AND THEN WE'VE GOT ANOTHER POTENTIAL MEETING THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY, AND THEN ANOTHER MEETING THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY.
SO TO ADD A WEDNESDAY MEETING IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THAT I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T THINK, UH, WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT, UM, IT, I JUST KNEW WE, THERE WAS JUST NO CHANCE WE'D BE ABLE TO FINISH THIS KIND OF AN AGENDA BASED ON THE WAY WE CURRENTLY FLOW THROUGH THESE ITEMS, WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE, UM, LIKE THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICY ITEM.
I WAS GOING THROUGH THAT AS QUICKLY AS I POSSIBLY COULD, THE WAY TO GO THROUGH IT WAS POINT BY POINT.
IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THAT DECISION MADE.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE LIMITING, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UH, WHO GETS BOOTED AND, AND HOW DOES THAT WORK? IS IT JUST BECAUSE OF, UH, WHERE YOU ARE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH I KNOW HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION OF LATE, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU KNOW, THAT WE NECESSARILY WANT TO HAPPEN.
UM, BUT IT IS A PRIORITY IN MY MIND TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ITEMS THAT ARE READY FOR ACTION ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN NOTICED IN THE PIE, IN THE PAPER, UH, THAT HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ATTACHED TO THEM, UH, ANYTHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF ITEMS NEED TO BE DEALT WITH DURING THE MEETING, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM, LIKE I SAID, ARE NOTICED IN, IN PAPERS AND CALLED FOR ASKING FOR PUBLIC TO COME ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, WE SHOULD TRY TO TAKE IT UP.
SO, UM, IF WE ESTABLISH SOMETHING LIKE AN 11 O'CLOCK TIMELINE OR END, WHAT, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THERE MIGHT BE, WE, THERE WOULD BE TWO OR THREE ITEMS POTENTIALLY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT 11 O'CLOCK WAS FOR US HERE, BUT IT'S THE MAJORITY OF THE GENERAL DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE DIRECTION.
THE ITEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT THINGS FOR US TO DISCUSS AND THEY WOULD ALL GET BOOTED.
AND THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DO YOU RECESS UNTIL THE NEXT DAY, IF YOU REACH YOUR DEADLINE AND SEE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO, EVEN IF IT'S NOT POSTED, WE HAVE 24 HOURS, WE COULD SAY, ALL RIGHT, IT'S 11, WE'VE HIT OUR CURFEW.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF IT'S 11 AND WE'VE GOT 30 MORE MINUTES TO GO, OR 45 MORE MINUTES TO GO, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING
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WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO FORCE OURSELVES TO DO, WHICH IS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AND COME BACK THE, UH, THE FOLLOWING DAY.SO, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS TIME LIMITS PER ITEM IS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT TAKE US 30 SECONDS, THAT IT TAKES LONGER TO READ THE ITEM THEN TO DELIBERATE.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT TAKE 30 MINUTES, AND WE CAN'T, IT'S JUST REALLY HARD IN MY MIND TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A PARAMETER ON ONE WHEN, AND NOT NECESSARILY THE OTHER.
I MEAN, IF WE SAID NO MORE THAN 10 MINUTES PER ITEM, YOU KNOW, OF DELIBERATION, THEN, YOU KNOW, SO ONE, ONE WAY YOU MIGHT COULD DO IT IS YOU COULD SAY, UM, WE COULD REQUIRE MOTIONS IN SECOND, UH, EARLY, WHICH ACT TECH TECHNICALLY WE DO.
UH, AND, AND I KNOW, I KNOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S STILL KIND OF A, KIND OF A FLOW.
I'M TRYING TO ALWAYS FIND THAT FLOW.
BUT IF YOU GET HARDER WITH REQUIRING MOTIONS AND SECONDS, BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR DEBATE AND DISCUSSION, UH, THERE COULD BE A TIME LIMIT THEN FROM THE MOMENT THAT WE GET.
SO THAT'S AFTER A PRESENTATION OR A PUBLIC HEARING OR WHATEVER, ONCE IT GETS TO US MOTION, SECOND, THEN THERE'S A TIME CLOCK THAT STARTS ESSENTIALLY RIGHT THERE.
AND IF WE'RE NOT COMPLETE WITH OUR DELIBERATIONS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND THE TIMELINE.
BUT IF, IF WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RULE, THEN WE WOULD CEASE DEBATE AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AFTER THE MOTION AND SECOND AND CALL FOR THE VOTE.
SO STILL IT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGING EACH AND EVERY TIME, BECAUSE IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU CARE ABOUT AND, UH, I'M TRYING TO CALL FOR A VOTE QUICKLY, AND YOU HAVE MORE, YOU WANT TO SAY, I GENERALLY DON'T CALL FOR A VOTE UNTIL EVERYBODY SAID EVERYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY, UH, PER, PER POLICY.
I THINK I DO THAT FOR MY OWN SURVIVAL.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD LIKE ME TRYING TO SHUT THEM DOWN AND CALL FOR VOTES EXCEPT ON THE RARE OCCASION.
SO THAT'S JUST ALL THE FEEDBACK I HAVE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NECESSARILY HELPS.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, FRIDAY WAS POSTED AND ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
SO HOW'S THAT DIFFERENT FROM A TUESDAY MEETING.
AND SECOND WAS, IF YOU HAVE TO BE THERE AT FIVE O'CLOCK BECAUSE YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TO YOUR 11 O'CLOCK CAUSE YOUR ELECTED OFFICIAL, THEY, THEY THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE ELECTED FOR.
IF FIVE O'CLOCK, 11 O'CLOCK IS STILL TIME.
YOU'RE STILL HERE, SAME AMOUNT.
SO WHAT HAVE WE HAVE TO BE HERE AT 12 O'CLOCK ON TUESDAY? UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE US.
WILL YOU BE ABLE TO MAKE IT? WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS.
CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
YOU HAVE TO BE HERE AT A CERTAIN TIME.
OR YOU FINISH THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS YES.
LOT OF US HAVE JOBS, A LOT OF US WORK AND WE HAVE IT.
WE, A LOT OF US CAN GET OFF BY FOUR O'CLOCK.
A LOT OF US COULDN'T GET OFF BY FIVE.
THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE I HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT SAYS WHEN HE COMES TO THE MEETING DAYS, I CAN'T MAKE IT ON TIME OR LET'S, DON'T START IT EARLY BECAUSE MY JOB, YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT THERE'S, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT DO MAKE TIME DURING THE DAY TO GO ATTEND OTHER MEETINGS.
I'M TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT WILL BEST FIT FOR EVERYBODY.
A SUGGESTION THAT I WOULD COME UP WITH IS IF WE'VE GOT ITEMS LIKE THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE OVER 35 ITEMS, WE JUST BUMPED IT DOWN AN HOUR.
IT'S NOT OKAY BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY MISS SO SO MUCH TIME.
YOU CAN ONLY BE LATE SO MANY DAYS, UH, TO SO MANY MEETINGS BECAUSE WE MADE THE RULES OF COUNCIL AMENDMENT.
NOW YOU'RE KICKING COUNCIL MEMBERS OFF.
IS THAT YOUR OBJECTIVE? WE TAKE COUNCILMAN COUNCIL MEMBERS BY THE PEOPLE OF, WE SHOW UP AT AN EXECUTIVE AT FIVE 30, WE SHOW UP EXECUTIVE ED SIX.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE MEETING IS THE MOST IMPORTANT, NOT EXECUTIVE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING, GET RID OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NOW I DIDN'T SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU FINISH, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE HAVE THESE LARGE ITEMS HERE, WE CAN START THE MEETING.
OR WE CAN SAY, WE'RE GOING TO START AT SIX.
THE MEETING STARTED AT SIX AND THEN WE CAN GET THROUGH AS MUCH AS WE CAN, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE RIGHT AFTERWARDS.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN BE ABLE TO GET ALL THIS WORK DONE AHEAD OF TIME WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
BECAUSE WHEN WE GO TO THE BACK AND THE PEOPLE ARE HERE, THEY'RE WAITING ON US.
I W I WOULD SAY THAT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THE FLOW OF PEOPLE OUT OF THE BUILDING IS, IS EVER GOING TO CHANGE IT TO ALWAYS BE.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIND A BETTER WAY.
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ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, LIKE IF IT MEANS THAT WE'VE GOT A LARGE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE STARTED JUST STARTED AN HOUR EARLY, OR FOR, WE HAVE TO GET A CUTOFF AT 12.BUT IF WE HAVE TO CONTINUE THE NEXT DAY THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS HERE, WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT, OR TRY TO MAKE IT THE NEXT DAY FOR, FOR WEDNESDAY, NOT SAYING LET'S, LET'S CUT IT ALL OUT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M BEING REASONABLE ON THIS.
I'M BEING REASONABLE FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING STAFF, BECAUSE YEAH, LET'S HAVE A MEETING AT 12 O'CLOCK GUESS WHAT? WE JUST PULLED THEM FROM THEIR LUNCH HOUR.
WE JUST PULLED THEM FROM THEIR DEVELOPER MEETINGS.
WE JUST PULLED MARIANNA FROM MAKING AN INSPECTION IN THE PARTS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
LET'S FIND A WAY TO WHERE WE CAN STREAMLINE THIS A LOT EASIER.
AND IF IT MEANS THAT OUR DISCUSSIONS GO BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH, WHY I WANT TO ADD THIS, ADD THAT SO BAD.
YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY THAT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO, AND I THINK MS. BRADSHAW IS ON THE SAME PAGE IS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO STREAMLINE THESE MEETINGS SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE INVOLVED.
AND I'M GOOD WITH STREAMLINING.
THESE MEANS I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR.
I'M STILL GOOD WITH STREAMLINING THE MEETINGS.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THE WORKING CLASS ISN'T ALLOWED TO RUN FOR COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE MADE THIS A MEMO.
WE'RE GONNA START THESE MEETINGS EARLIER.
I MEAN, THIS IS STILL PRETTY MUCH A VOLUNTEER POSITION.
AND WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO VOLUNTEER, I JUST FEEL THAT THIS COUNCIL IS DETERRING VOLUNTEERISM.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE OUR BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS WERE DETERRING VOLUNTEERISM ON OUR COUNCIL.
AND NOW SITTING COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE GOING TO DETER VOLUNTEERISM BECAUSE I'M STILL A VOLUNTEER IN HERE.
EVEN THOUGH I GET A STIPEND, I'M STILL A VOLUNTEER.
I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY.
I'M NOT DOING THIS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING.
AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY BLUE COLLAR PEOPLE PUSHED OUT OF THIS PROCESS AND NOT BEING HERE TO, UH, REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF KYLE, THE WHOLE POINT AS WELL, TO STREAMLINE IT TO WHERE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE, WOW, I'D LOVE TO RUN FOR COUNCIL, BUT THESE GUYS GO TO ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
WOULD IT BE EASIER TO JUST SAY, HEY, LOOK, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER.
EVEN IF IT MEANS THAT WE START AT SIX O'CLOCK AND THEN WE CAN, WHEN WE KNOW WE GOT A HEAVY AGENDA ITEMS, IT ALSO IS GOING TO HELP STAFF CAUSE LOOK AT IT.
IT IS 12 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
IT'S IT'S THE POINT OF TRYING TO SAY YES, THESE GUYS ARE UP ALL NIGHT.
I DON'T WANT TO RUN, BUT IF WE MAKE IT TO WHERE WE CAN MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY FOR HEAVY ITEMS IN THE MAYOR.
AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, WHEN IT COMES TO HEAVY ITEMS, OVER 35 AGENDA ITEMS, THOSE ARE THE TIMES THAT WE'RE SAYING, IF WE'VE GOT SOME THAT ARE 28, I THINK WE CAN GET THROUGH THEM ALL.
WELL, AS I WAS SAYING, IF THIS, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY, SO MUCH, WE'VE DONE BEFORE, BEFORE THIS, AND, AND AFTER I PRIDE, I THOUGHT THE LAST ONE WENT WELL, AND I PROBABLY WOULD'VE SPLIT THIS ONE UP ALSO, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE WHERE I JUST KNEW WE HAD TO POWER THROUGH NO MATTER WHAT REALLY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROCESS IN PLACE, CUSTOMER BRADSHAW.
I CERTAINLY HEAR AND UNDERSTAND NOT BEING ABLE TO BE HERE EARLIER.
HOWEVER, I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY IS THAT THE SAME ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE FOR STAYING HERE LATE BECAUSE IT MAKES IT THAT JUST AS MUCH UNATTAINABLE AS GETTING HERE EARLY FOR PEOPLE DO HAVE TO WAKE UP AND GO TO WORK AND TAKE KIDS TO SCHOOL.
THE NEXT DAY ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALE.
AND THERE ARE SO MANY WEDNESDAYS WHEN I HAVE WOKEN UP FEELING LIKE I HAVE BEEN HIT BY A TRUCK BECAUSE OF EVERY, ALL OF THE ENERGY THAT I EXERTED THE NIGHT BEFORE.
UM, TOUCHING BACK ON WHAT MAYOR SAID IN REGARDS TO LIMITING AGENDA ITEMS. UM, I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND I, AND I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO, LIKE LIMITING OR, UH, TIMING PRESENTATIONS.
LIKE WE JUST WATCHED TODAY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A POWERPOINT THAT WAS EMAILED TO US AND WE COULD HAVE RESPONDED WITH QUESTIONS.
SO THERE ARE OPTIONS THERE AS WELL.
UM, I THINK FOR THE MOST PART, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL PASSIONATE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
BUT SOMETIMES THESE THINGS, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY JUST KIND OF TAKE CONTROL AND DICTATE OUR, OUR TIME WHEN REALLY WE'RE THE ONES UP HERE.
WE'RE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE SAYING, OKAY,
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LISTEN, I'VE HEARD ENOUGH ABOUT YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.UM, AND JUST KIND OF TAKE THAT BACK BECAUSE W WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO GET THINGS DONE.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS THERE, ANY SINGLE IDEA THAT WE MIGHT COULD JUST TRY TO IMPLEMENT JUST TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE SUBSTANTIVE? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, COULD WE DO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS ON DIFFERENT DAYS THAN MEETINGS? IS THAT SOMETHING TO CONSIDER MAYBE DOING ONE DAY EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN THE OTHER DAY AT THE MEETING, I DID ANYTHING.
IF WE COULD DO EXECUTIVE SESSION REMOTELY, THAT WOULD BE NICE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
OH, YOU CAN BE THERE A MOMENT.
IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO MEET? WE COULD GET A ROTATION.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT, UM, TO, TO, TO ROLL CALL.
AND THEN AFTER THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE'S SNOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THE BUILDING.
MY OTHER QUESTION IS COULD WE, COULD WE, AND NOT IF, IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH IT, OR COULD WE START THE MEETING OR EXECUTIVE AT FOUR 30 AND THEN MEETING, UH, SIX? NO.
I'M JUST TRYING TO WAIT IN OPTIONS.
THE IDEA OF EXECUTIVE BEING ON A DIFFERENT DAY, THEN, UM, THE MEETING, IT TAKES UP TWO HOURS.
AND SO I FELT LIKE IF WE COULD GET STARTED TWO HOURS EARLIER, WE COULD BE, I WOULD BE 10 O'CLOCK NOW.
SO YEAH, CAUSE SOMETIMES WE EVEN HAVE TO RUSH THROUGH ITEMS THROUGH EXECUTIVE, RIGHT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS, SO PART OF THE REASON FOR THE SEVEN O'CLOCK CONSISTENT START TIME THROUGH THE YEARS IS THAT IT'S CONSISTENT FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO THEY KNOW WHEN, BUT THEN ALSO SEVEN O'CLOCK IS GOOD FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
IF YOU START, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE MEETING START AT THREE OR AT FOUR, IT DOES ELIMINATE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM COMING SEVEN O'CLOCK IS RIGHT AFTER DINNER.
AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN COME IN AND, AND PARTICIPATE FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANT IT.
MY EXPERIENCE IS THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE LIKE TO COME IN FOR THE FIRST BIT, BUT THERE'S VERY FEW NORMALLY WHO ARE HERE WITH US.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MADE IT HERE TO THE END.
IT'S A, IT'S A RARE THING, FRANKLY.
IT'S NORMALLY AN EMPTY BUILDING THAT WE LEAVE TO EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY WRONG.
I THINK WE JUST, WE NEED TO TRY TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO GO THROUGH ITEMS FASTER WITHOUT LIMITING THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'RE ALL MAKING, WHICH ARE ALL VALID.
I MEAN, SO THE POINT IS IF EVERYBODY'S GOT SOMETHING TO SAY AND WANTS, AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO MAKE THEIR POINTS HEARD AND THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME PREPARING AND RESEARCHING AND THEY GOT THINGS THEY WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO SO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO DO, TO, TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED, SHOULD ALLOW EACH OTHER REALLY TO HAVE THE FLOOR FOR MORE THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A SET PERIOD OF TIME.
WHICH AGAIN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO DO IS TO BE TELLING YOU ALL YOU'VE HIT YOUR TIME LIMIT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S I I'LL TRY ANYTHING.
IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE US GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS FASTER.
NO, WE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE LIMIT OUR CITIZENS TO THREE MINUTES AND, UH, SOMETIMES WE CAN GO ON FOREVER.
MAYBE JUST BEING COGNIZANT OF THAT AND HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE COULD HELP THAT W WE'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN CAUSE WE'RE THE JUDGE OF OUR PEER, YOU KNOW, OF OUR MEMBERS.
AND SO WE'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKING IT SHORTER.
AND SHE'S NOT EVEN BEING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE REPHRASES IS TO BE CONSIDERATE OF YOUR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TIME.
AND, AND, AND THE TIME THEY PUT IN HERE ON THE DAYAS, YOU KNOW, SO TRYING TO LIMIT OURSELVES IN CONVERSATION, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES WE CAN BE OUR OWN, UH, UH, TALK KEEPERS.
SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.
WELL, YOU'RE OUT OF, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE, I KIND OF LIKE ALL OF THE ABOVE, I KIND OF LIKE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO FINISH BY 11.
WE'RE GOING TO BE AWARE OF HOW LONG WE'RE SPENDING ON PARTICULAR ITEMS. OBVIOUSLY HAVE YOUR ITEMS. WE SHOULDN'T ANTICIPATE SPENDING MORE TIME ON, BUT PRESENTATIONS LIKE THE ONES WE JUST HAD, WE CAN SAY, YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES.
UH, AND THEN, YEAH, SO, SO DEFINITELY JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DILIGENT ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON ITEMS AND AWARE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING OURSELVES.
AND ALSO I THINK THAT IF WE JUST MENTALLY KNOWING, HEY, WE GOT TO WRAP UP BY 11, JUST LIKE WE DO.
WHEN WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE ARE MORE EFFICIENT AND WE ARE
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GOING THROUGH THINGS AT A, AT A MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE PACE THAN WHAT WE DO OUT HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE COMING OUT HERE AT SEVEN.SO I THINK JUST HAVING THAT IN TIME IN MIND IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, IT'S THE RULES OF COUNCIL, BUT CAN WE CREATE SOME KIND OF GUIDELINES FOR, UM, THE AGENDA COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS? I KNOW WE HAD A VOTE THAT EVERYTHING WENT ON TOP.
UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE CAN JUST REQUEST TO BE PUT AT THE BOTTOM.
AND SINCE I WAS NEVER ALLOWED TO REQUEST TO BE PUT AT THE TOP, UM, I JUST, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE OUR VOTE WAS, WE ALL GO AT THE TOP AND THEN WHEN WE START THE MEETING, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO AT THE BOTTOM AND THEN COLLECTIVELY AS A DICE, WE CAN TAKE THAT VOTE.
OR JUST OFTENTIMES YOU SAY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT? AND THEN WE MOVE ON.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WE CAN ALL HAVE A VOICE IN, UM, IN THE, THE VOTE THAT WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN.
AND SO WE DON'T KIND OF DISREGARD THAT.
SO IF THE AGENDA COULD BE FINALIZED WITH, UM, OUR VOTE THAT WE PREVIOUSLY TOOK, AND THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MOVE THEIR ITEM, WE CAN JUST COLLECTIVELY TALK ABOUT IT DURING THE MEETING.
I THINK THAT, WELL, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S MAYBE SOME AMBIGUITY THERE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.
SO, CAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT I AGREE THAT THE, THE VOTE THAT WAS TAKEN WAS INTENDED TO SAY THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO SAY THAT YOU WANT YOUR ITEM TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE SECTION, UH, THAT I, THAT WHOEVER SETS THE AGENDA, CAN'T NOT PUT IT THERE OR THAT, THAT MIGHT BE THE DEFAULT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO SAY THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO HAVE IT TOWARDS THE END THAT THEY COULDN'T.
SO EITHER WAY WE CAN CLARIFY IT IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL, WE CAN GO THROUGH IT NOW OR WE CAN GO THROUGH IT LATER.
I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH THIS PARTICULAR VERSION.
I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL NOTICED THAT IT CHANGED IT UP BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK OF PUTTING THINGS AT THE TOP.
IT JUST, I DON'T USE A LOT OF SECTIONS GENERALLY, BUT AS IT RELATES TO THE SECTIONS, I THOUGHT I THOUGHT THIS ONE WAS A PRETTY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND STILL COMPLIANT WITH THE RULES, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I'M, I WASN'T TRYING.
SO I, FOR ME PERSONALLY, WHEN I TOOK THE VOTE AND I TOOK A VOTE BECAUSE I DIDN'T MAKE THE MOTION, UM, I, IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT MY ITEM.
I THINK, I THINK I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEEN ASH THIS MS. BRETT COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW'S ITEM UP TOP.
I THOUGHT, I WISH YOU WOULD'VE BROUGHT THIS WEEKS AGO.
UM, AND SO IT'S NOT, IT WAS NOT ABOUT MY ITEMS HAVING TO BE AT THE TOP.
IT WAS ABOUT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT AS COUNCIL, WE, WE HAD A VOICE AND THAT WE WEREN'T TALKING AT 2:00 AM TO OURSELVES.
UM, AND SO IT WASN'T AGAIN MEANT FOR ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR, JUST EVERYBODY.
AND SO I GUESS MY ASSUMPTION WAS SINCE PRIOR TO THE MOTION, I COULDN'T JUST REQUEST MYSELF TO BE AT THE TOP THAT WE ALSO, SINCE WE MADE A VOTE, EVERYBODY WOULD BE AT THE TOP.
WE COULDN'T JUST REQUEST TO BE AT THE BOTTOM EITHER, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
UM, AND I WAS GOING TO CALL A POINT OF ORDER AND I DID NOT BECAUSE WE WERE ALL GETTING ALONG AND IT WAS A GOOD DAY AND I DIDN'T WANT TO RUIN IT.
UM, BUT I'M GLAD THAT ASHLEY BROUGHT THIS WHOLE, THE GIRLS OF COUNSEL BACK BECAUSE I THOUGHT, OKAY, THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COLLECTIVELY AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT MY WAY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS NOT MY VOTE.
UM, ALTHOUGH I DID VOTE IN IT AND I, IT APPROVED.
UM, BUT, UH, WE DID THAT ALTOGETHER.
AND SO WHEN WE CHANGE ITEMS, I'D ALSO LIKE TO DO THAT ALTOGETHER.
SO I JUST WANT TO, SO IF I WANT MY ITEM AT THE END, I DON'T WANT COUNCIL DICTATING WHERE I'VE PUT IT.
I TRULY FEEL THAT WE TOOK THAT VOTE BECAUSE YOU HAD AN ISSUE WITH YOUR ITEMS. AND WE, I THINK I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR COUNCIL, BUT FOR ME, WHEN I VOTED FOR THAT WAS SO THAT YOU COULD GET YOUR ITEMS AT THE TOP.
I WAS IN VOTING TO MOVE MINE TO THE TOP.
SO YOU COULD GET YOURS BECAUSE YOU HAD A CONCERN.
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF THIS IS HAPPENING TO HER, IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING.
SO THAT WAY YOU COULD GET YOURS TO THE TOP.
BUT FOR ME, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY DICTATING THAT I CAN'T PUT MINE AT THE END BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE DICTATING TO ME.
SO WHAT ALMOST, WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO YOU IS ALMOST HAVING TO MEAN NOW YOU'RE FORCING ME TO PUT MINE AT THE TOP.
SO THAT'S, IT JUST, IT'S NOT REALLY WHAT I WANTED, BUT FINISHING, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK ASHLEY FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
IT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I THINK AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BETTER AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A GREAT STAFF ASKING QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND IS A WAY TO GET SOME OF THESE ANSWERS THAT WE NEED ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS, BECAUSE WE GET THESE THE THURSDAY BEFORE.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UH,
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SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE THOUGHTS.WE WANT TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC.
WE COULD DO THAT REALLY PRECISE AND QUICKLY AND BE DONE, BUT I REALLY AGREE WITH YOU ON THE PRESENTATIONS.
AND I LEARNED MY LESSON ON THAT LAST YEAR WHEN I HAD LARRY SIMONE COME IN HERE AND GIVE US AN HOUR PRESENTATION.
SO, AND ELLA, LARRY, HE'S A GREAT GUY, BUT THAT WAS ON ME.
I SHOULD'VE GOTTEN WITH LARRY.
I SHOULD'VE THOUGHT TALK TO HIM ABOUT THE PARAMETERS, WHAT THE TIMELINE WAS.
AND THAT TOTAL WAS MY FAULT, NOT LARRY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LESSON LEARNED.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.
WELL, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE PRESENTATION LINKS IS THE WAY PRESENTATIONS COME TO THE COUNCIL.
A LOT OF TIMES IT'S STAFF BRINGING FORWARD OR STEPS THAT SOME PRESENTER.
SO IT'S ALWAYS EASY FOR ME, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT THE PRESENTATION THEY'RE PREPARING CANNOT EXCEED A CERTAIN TIME.
IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE DID MAKE THAT A RULE AND SOMEHOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD JUST PUT THE ONUS ON ME AND SCOTT AND WHOEVER ELSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, THAT RULE IS FOLLOWED.
BUT THEN ANYONE REQUESTING A PRESENTATION WOULD HAVE TO GET IN THE HABIT OF LIMITING IT TO A PARTICULAR TIME.
UH, AND YET AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WERE SOME PRESENTATIONS THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM AND THEY TAKE LONGER, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY SO WE CAN EITHER TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING FORMAL OR I CAN JUST TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK AS NOTED.
AND I'M SURE SCOTT IS WELL CAN, I'M NOT SURE WHERE HE'S AT.
DO WE KNOW WHERE SCOTT WITH? HE DOESN'T FILL OUT.
ANYTHING ELSE? MOTION TO ADJOURN.