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[Roll Call]
[I. Call Meeting to Order]
EVENING, EVERYONE.THE DAY IS TUESDAY, JUNE THE SEVENTH TIMES 7:04 PM.
AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WOULD ALL.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO JUST STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
STEP APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.MAYOR LOOK LIKE TO GO AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL.
SPECIAL MEETING MAY 3RD, REGULAR MEETING FOR THE SAME DATE AND SPECIAL SAY TO MEETING FOR MAY 12TH, 2022 MOTION BY CUSTOMER TO BE A SECOND ABOUT IT.
KAYLA, WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MAY 3RD, MAY 3RD TO MAY 12TH.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
PERIOD.AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
I HAVE, UH, TWO, UH, WHO HAVE SIGNED UP SO FAR, FIRST UP CHRISTOPHER CAUCUS.
CAULKINS MAYOR CITY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY OF PAL.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT.
UH AMBITS AND I'M FIRST VICE MY, UH, COMMANDER'S HERE WITH US TONIGHT.
WE, UH, DO A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE SOMETHING WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT.
WE'D LIKE TO INVITE THE CITIZENS OF KYLE AND THE CITY CALL CONSOLE TO OUR FIRST ANNUAL PEOPLE'S WALK.
IT WILL BE JUNE 12TH WITH REGISTRATION STARTING AT 8:00 AM AND CLOSING AT 10:00 AM.
THERE WILL BE A SAFETY BRIEFING BY CERTS AT THE START AND ALONG THE WAY THERE WILL BE REST STOPS FOR WATER AND FRUIT AT THE REST STOPS.
WALKERS WILL BE CHECKED BY SEARCH TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT DEHYDRATED BECAUSE WE HAVE A WALKING CLUB CALLED KYLE AMVETS WALKERS, AND WE ARE CERTIFIED BY BOTH THE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL VOLKS SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS.
AND THERE WILL BE WALKERS FROM OTHER AREAS OF TEXAS IN THE UNITED STATES, AS WELL AFTER THE WALK, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING AND BITS, UH, 10TH ANNIVERSARY, BIRTHDAY AND KYLE.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE ALL CITIZENS IN CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR HIMSELF THAT, UH, BE INVITED.
UH, THERE WILL BE FOOD MUSIC, REFRESHMENTS FOR ALL ATTENDEES AT NO COST.
IT WILL START AT 11:00 AM AND CONCLUDE WHEN ALL HAVE THE LEFT OR ALL THE FOOD AND REFRESHMENTS IS GONE.
UH, WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK SAMANTHA ART.
BRUSTER RACHEL SONIA, JESSE SHORE, AND THE CITY OF KYLE FOR HELP IN PARTNERSHIP IN THIS PEOPLE'S WALK, COULDN'T HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT THESE INDIVIDUALS.
WE COULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN GOING THROUGH EVERYONE'S HELP AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING TWO WALKS NEXT YEAR.
UH, WE DO A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WHERE WE'RE PULLING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY, UH, WITH ALL THIS.
AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL OUT THERE.
I'M A CITIZEN OF KYLE AND I RESIDE IN AMBERWOOD LAST YEAR.
I CAME TO YOU ABOUT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR SENIORS AND THE DISABLED TONIGHT.
I WANT TO THANK DEXT FOR HELPING TO SHEPHERD THIS ITEM INTO THE AGENDA.
LAST YEAR IN 2021, THE LAND VALUE INCREASED $20,000.
NOW IN 2022, THE LAND VALUE HAS INCREASED AGAIN, 25,200 FOR A TOTAL OF $45,200.
IN JUST TWO YEARS, THE CITY OF KYLE ONLY ALLOWS $30,000.
AND THIS HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS, AND IT IS THE LOWEST OF ALL THE TAXING DISTRICTS ON YOUR PROPERTY.
TAXES HAYES COUNTY GIVES YOU $50,000 PLUS A FREEZE ON YOUR HOME VALUE.
WHEN YOU QUALIFY FOR THE EXEMPTIONS,
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SENIORS AND DISABLED HAVE LOST THE ENTIRE VALUE OF THE EXEMPTION WITH THE LAND VALUE INCREASE IN THE HIGHER VALUE OF THE HOMES.SINCE WE ALSO IN AMBERWOOD HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST WATER RATES, WE PAY $85 AND 48 CENTS PER MONTH TO THE CITY OF KYLE FOR OUR WASTEWATER AND GARBAGE.
SO WE, AGAIN, PAYING HIGH $4,000 COSTS, $85 AND 21 CENTS.
SO MY AVERAGE COST PER MONTH IS $170 AND 69 CENTS.
THIS ALLOWS ME TO HAVE WATER FOR HOME USES AND THE ABILITY TO FLUSH MY TOILET, THE SENIORS AND DISABLED NEED THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASED TO HELP US KEEP PACE WITH THE HIGH PROPERTY TAXES AND IT SHOULD BE EQUAL TO THE HAYES COUNTY AMOUNT OR TRULY RAISED TO $75,200 TO ACCOUNT FOR THE LAST $45,000 OF INCREASES.
WE HAVE INCURRED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, PLEASE HELP THE ELDERLY AND THE DISABLED AFFORD THEIR HOME TAXES SO THEY CAN REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES.
THEY'VE WORKED ALL THEIR LIVES TO AFFORD.
THAT IS ALL OF THE COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
IT IS NOW CLOSED NEXT UP AGENDA
[IV. Presentation]
[4. Memorial Day/D-Day Proclamation. ~ Robert Rizo, Mayor Pro Tem]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, A MEMORIAL DAY, A D-DAY PROCLAMATION.THIS MAYOR PRO TIM'S ITEMS. UH, HE IS TARDY.
HE'S DOING AN EVENT WITH THE POLICE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO A CUSTOMER TO BE STEPPING IN AND INSTANT.
UH, MAYOR PRO TAM IS NOT AVAILABLE THIS EVENING, BUT GAVE ME THE HONOR TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION.
SO, WHEREAS SINCE OUR NATION'S FOUNDING AMERICAN SONS AND DAUGHTERS HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY FROM CONCORD TO GETTYSBURG MARTIN, TO NORM AND NORMANDY AND FOR MY CON CACHE TO BAGHDAD IN QATAR, THEY DEPARTED OUR WORLD AS HEROES AND GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR A CAUSE GREATER THAN THEMSELVES.
WHEREAS WE PAY TRIBUTE TO THOSE WHO HAVE PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE TO DEFEND THE UNITED STATES AND THE PRINCIPLES UPON WHICH AMERICA WAS FOUNDED FOR MEMORIAL DAY AND DDT.
WHEREAS TODAY AMERICANS FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS AND CORNERS OF OUR COUNTRY SERVE WITH VALOR, COURAGE AND DISTINCTION IN THE UNITED STATES, ARMED FORCES, THEY STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH THE GIANTS OF OUR NATION'S HISTORY, WRITING THEIR OWN CHAPTER IN AMERICAN STORY.
MANY OF TODAY'S WARRIORS KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO LOSE A FRIEND TOO SOON IN ALL OUR SERVICE MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES UNDERSTAND THE TRUE MEANING OF SACRIFICE.
WHEREAS THIS MEMORIAL DAY, WE EXPRESS OUR DEEPEST APPRECIATION TO THE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHO GAVE THEIR LAST FULL MEASURE OF DEVOTION.
WE CHERISH THEIR MEMORY AND PRAY FOR PEACE, WHICH THEY LAID DOWN THEIR LIVES.
WE MORE WITH THE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF THOSE HAVE LOST AND HOPE.
THEY FIND COMFORT IN KNOWING THEIR LOVED ONES DIED.
WITH HONOR, WE ASK FOR GOD'S GRACE TO PROTECT THESE FIGHTING IN DISTANCE LENS.
AND WE RENEW OUR PROMISE TO SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, THEIR FAMILIES, AND OUR VETERANS THEY'RE UNWAVERING DEVOTION INSPIRES US ALL.
THEY ARE THE BEST OF AMERICA, WHEREAS THIS D-DAY, WE COME COMMEMORATE THE ALLIED INVASION OF NORMANDY DURING WORLD WAR II.
WHEN MORE THAN 156,000 ALLIED TROOPS, INCLUDING 73,000 AMERICANS STORMED THE BEACHES AND CLIFFS ON JUNE 6TH, 1944 FOR THE LARGEST SEABORNE INVASION IN HISTORY.
WHEREAS IT IS OUR SACRED DUTY TO PRESERVE THE LEGACY OF THESE BRAVE AMERICANS.
AND OUR REMAINS ARE CHARGED TO WORK FOR PEACE, FREEDOM, AND SECURITY.
LET US STRIVE TO UPHOLD THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES.
THEY DIED, DEFENDING LET THEIR LEGACY CONTINUE TO INSPIRE OUR NATION AND LET THE SOLEMN LESSON OF SACRIFICE AND SERVICE BE TAUGHT TO FUTURE GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS.
WHEREAS THEY HAVE, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN MANY LOCAL VETERANS WHO HAVE PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE.
THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF KYLE THAT IN HONOR, OF ALL KYLE AREA, VETERANS WHO HAVE PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE RESOLVED
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THAT MAY 30TH, 2022 IS KNOWN AS MEMORIAL DAY IN KYLE AND THAT ON JUNE 6TH, 2022 IS KNOWN AS D-DAY IN KYLE.WE RECOGNIZE ALFREDO LOPEZ AND MICHAEL DORMAN, TWO SONS OF KYLE WHO PAID THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE DURING THE VIETNAM CAMPAIGN.
WE ADDITIONALLY RECOGNIZED THE CENTRAL TEXAS AMBITS POST 1, 1 5, AND THE KYLE VETERANS OF FOREIGN LEGION WARS POST 1, 2 0 5 8 4, THEIR EFFORTS, AND RECOGNIZING OUR VETERANS WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES OR THEIR COUNTRY ON THIS MEMORIAL DAY SIGN IN ENTERED THIS DAY, THE SEVENTH, JUNE OF 2022.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND THANK YOU CUSTOMER TO BE, AS FOR READING IT FOR US.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, VETERANS WHO'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AS WELL TO BE A PART OF THE PHOTOS WE'RE GOING TO DO ONE FOR NO, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME BETTER.
I SEE SEVERAL OF THEM BACK THERE.
[5. Women Veterans Day (June 12th) City Council Proclamation. ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]
ITEM FIVE WOMEN'S VETERANS DAY, JUNE 12TH, CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATION, CUSTOMER ULCER.THAT WAS ABOUT TO SAY DON'T GO TOO FAR.
SO IT IS MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE, UH, THIS PROCLAMATION HERE, UH, FOR WOMEN'S VETERANS DAY, WHICH WILL BE JUNE 12TH.
AND, UH, IT IS MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE DANIELLE WHO IS PART OF OUR IT DIVISION HERE AT THE CITY.
AND SHE HAS GOTTEN USED TO WRITING PROCLAMATIONS NOW.
UH, SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO PRESENT YOU TONIGHT FOR THIS GREAT PROCLAMATION.
UM, WHEREAS WOMEN'S VETERANS DAY IS CELEBRATED ANNUALLY ON THE 12TH OF JUNE.
THE DATE WAS FIRST RECOGNIZED WHEN THE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY TO DECLARE JUNE 12TH, 2008, TO BE WOMEN VETERANS RECOGNITION DAY MARKING THE 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE GROUNDBREAKING WOMEN.
WOMEN'S ARMED SERVICES INTEGRATION ACT SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT HARRY S TRUMAN ON JUNE 12TH, 1948, THAT LAW ENABLED WOMEN TO SERVE AS PERMANENT REGULAR MEMBERS OF THE ARMY MARINE CORPS, NAVY AND AIR FORCE.
AND WHEREAS THE DATE IS NOT RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY, BUT AS RECOGNIZED BY A FEW STATES, EITHER THROUGH LEGISLATION, ORGANIZATIONS OR PROCLAMATIONS, THE FIRST TEXAS WOMEN'S VETERANS, THE FIRST TEXAS WOMEN VETERANS DAY WAS HELD ON JUNE 12TH, 2018.
WHEN TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT SIGNED A BILL DESIGNATING JUNE 12TH AS TEXAS WOMEN VETERANS DAY, THE STATED GOAL OF WOMEN VETERANS DAY VARIES SOMEWHAT BY STATE, BUT CAN GENERALLY BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS AN EFFORT TO HONOR THE WORK OF WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES TO RECOGNIZE THE UNIQUE CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACED.
AND WHEREAS WHILE WOMEN VETERANS DAY IS CURRENTLY ONLY A STATE RECOGNIZED COMMEMORATION, THERE'S AN EFFORT TO HAVE THE DAY RECOGNIZED AT A NATIONAL LEVEL.
US REPRESENTATIVE, MICKEY SHERRELL OF NEW JERSEY INTRODUCED A RESOLUTION IN BOTH 2019 AND 2020 TO HAVE JUNE 12TH OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED AS WOMEN VETERANS APPRECIATION DAY.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS RESOLUTION IS TO ADDRESS THE DISPARITIES AND CARE RECOGNITION AND BENEFITS THAT OUR WOMEN VETERANS RECEIVE AND TO HIGHLIGHT THE GROWING PRESENCE OF WOMEN IN THE ARMED FORCES AND TO PAY RESPECT TO WOMEN VETERANS FOR THEIR DUTIFUL MILITARY SERVICE.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE ACKNOWLEDGES THE CONTRIBUTION WOMEN CONTRIBUTIONS, WOMEN VETERANS BRING THROUGH THEIR SERVICE TO OUR GREAT NATION.
THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF KYLE THAT JUNE 12TH SHOULD BE CELEBRATED AS TEXAS WOMEN'S VETERANS DAY.
IT WAS MY GREATEST HONOR TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THIS TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS A MOTHER OF TWO AND, UH, AIR FORCE COMBAT VETERAN OF OPERATION, IRAQI FREEDOM AND OPERATION NEW DAWN.
I'M ALSO THE FOUNDER OF HER WOMEN'S VETERANS
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SOCIETY, WHICH IS A 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT FOR WOMEN VETERANS IN THE AREA.UM, SO THIS MEANS A LOT TO ME AND I'M DEEPLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT WORK.
SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE THAT.
UH, AND I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED YOUR NONPROFIT AS WELL, CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S A BIG DREAM OF YOURS.
UH, THANK YOU, COUNCIL FOR A SUPPORT OF THIS PROCLAMATION AND THANK YOU DANIELLE, FOR CONTINUING TO PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE AND SUPPORT THAT.
CAN WE GET A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR ALL OF OUR OTHER WOMEN VETERANS? WE'LL JUST GET IT ON THE, WE JUST NEED TO GET ON THE WEBSITE, BUT WE'LL GET IT BACK TO YOU.
YES YOU, YEAH, WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH YOU.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY THING TO ADD OUR NEXT
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Presentation of Graduates of the 2022 Team Kyle Academy. ~ James R. Earp, Assistant City Manager
]GEN ITEM NUMBER SIX, PRESENTATION OF GRADUATES OF THE 2022 TEAM KYLE ACADEMY, MR. JAMES OR MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, JAMESAND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING ASSISTED BY A ZANDER BULL CAUSE HE'S AMAZING.
I'M ZANDER, BAKER'S NOT HERE FOR THE SEAT TILE.
UM, ZANDER SOMEWHAT INHERITED THE ACADEMY AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, UH, GETTING THIS PROGRAM BACK UP AND RUNNING AGAIN.
WE HAD A REALLY GREAT TURNOUT FOR OUR FIRST, UM, INITIAL GROUP TO COME BACK AND, UH, I THINK THEY ALL HAD A REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE.
SO WE HAVE THEIR CERTIFICATES TONIGHT.
WE HAVE GRADUATION THAT'S COME THROUGH.
SO WE HAVE FOLKS THAT HAVE COMPLETED THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND A ZANDER IS GOING TO READ OUT THEIR NAMES AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THEM THEIR CERTIFICATES.
SO, UM, I GUESS WE'LL HOLD OUR APPLAUSE TO THE VERY END, UH, AS WE HAVE A NICE LARGE GROUP UP HERE.
SO AS I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME UP AND RECEIVE YOUR CERTIFICATE.
WE'RE GOING TO GET A PICTURE OF ALL OF YOU.
WE NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE KENNETH ROCIA GAYLYNN CARSON AND FRANK SCHULTZ.
SO MAYOR COUNCIL, THIS IS OUR GROUP.
UH, THEY COMPLETED THEIR, UH, UH, QUALIFICATION.
I'M GOING TO GET OUT OF THE WAY FOR PITCHERS WILL STAY UP HERE FOR THIS WOMAN'S FRIENDS.
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YES.IF EVERYONE WILL KIND OF SCOOT IN TOWARDS THE MIDDLE FOR ME PLEASE.
THANK ALL OF YOU FOR A WONDERFUL PROGRAM MIRROR.
I JUST SAY A FEW WORDS WHEN I'M, I'M SO PROUD TO HAVE THIS.
UH, I WENT THROUGH A SIMILAR TYPE OF CLASS SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO AND BACKED IN IT.
WE DID ONE CLASS A MONTH AND IT TOOK AN ENTIRE YEAR TO GET THROUGH THERE AND I DIDN'T GET HIS SHIRT EITHER, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.
UM, BUT, UH, NO, THOSE ARE WELL-DESERVED.
IT WAS FUN TO COME AND SIT ON, SIT IN ON MANY OF YOUR CLASSES, LISTENING TO THE GREAT QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL ASKED, UH, WATCHING YOU ALL PLAY ON THE EQUIPMENT AT PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC WORKS.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT REALLY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
SO YOU MIGHT GET HIT UP BY HARPER FOR A JOB, UH, BUT IT WAS REALLY SUCH AN ENJOY TO SEE OUR COMMUNITY COME TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW IN PARTICULAR THIS CITY WORKS.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOU ALL IN THE CLASS, WHEN I CAME AND SPOKE, YOU ALL WILL NOW BE OUR SMEES OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OUT THERE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES TO HELP SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS AND HELP PEOPLE ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW THESE THINGS WORK.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE TO BRING THIS CLASS, UH, IN THE FUTURE AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS, UH, AROUND TO HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN EVERYTHING.
WE TALKED ABOUT, PULLING OFF THE ROOF TO LET EVERYBODY IN AND UNDERSTAND.
AND I THINK WE DID PROBABLY A PRETTY SOLID JOB OF THAT.
WE LOOKED, WE HOPED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS WELL, SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE CLASSES EVEN BETTER IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU, CUSTOMER FLOURISH, KILL.
I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD JOB AND I EXPECT NO LESS THAN TWO OF YOU GUYS TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL.
MAYBE, MAYBE HE MIGHT BE MORE, BUT NOW YOU'RE QUALIFIED OVERQUALIFIED.
ANYONE WANT TO FOLLOW THAT? ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON NEXT UP.
[7. Spring Creek Trail Presentation. ~ Allen Ross, Schaumburg & Polk, Inc.]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, SPRING CREEK TRAIL PRESENTATION, MR. ALLEN ROSS.GLAD TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE REGARDING THE SPRING BRANCH SEGMENT OF THE PLUM CREEK TRAIL, WHICH IS A PART OF THE OVERALL VIBE TRAIL THAT THE CITY'S BEEN WORKING ON FOR MANY MONTHS NOW.
AND SO JUST A QUICK UPDATE, UH, OUR CONTRACT LET'S SEE HERE.
THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CONTRACT WAS DECEMBER 6TH, 2021.
AND THAT'S THE CONTRACT BETWEEN SCHOMBURG AND POLK AND THE CITY OF KYLE, THE CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE WAS ACTUALLY NOT EXECUTED UNTIL SOME MONTHS LATER.
BUT THE CONTRACT TIME BETWEEN, UH, FOR OUR CONTRACT WITH THE CITY IS 24 MONTHS.
SO THE PROJECT STATUS WE'VE COMPLETED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TOPOGRAPHICAL SURVEY AND THIS, I THINK SOME OF YOU CAME OUT AND MAYBE WITNESSED OUR GROWN FLYING PART OF THE PATH.
WE DID BOTH THE TOTAL PLUM CREEK TRAIL AND THE SPRING CREEK TRAIL ALL IN JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS, TIME.
UM, WE'RE 30% COMPLETE WITH THE DESIGN PHASE.
AND SO WHERE WE ARE AS WE'VE COMPLETED THE ALIGNMENT OF THE TRAIL THROUGH THE, THE, UM, SPRING BRANCH QUARTER.
AND SO THE SPRING BRANCH CORRIDOR IS PROBABLY ALL OF YOU KNOW, IS BETWEEN JAMES ATKINS ROAD AND FM ONE 50.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF ROAD CROSSINGS, UH, ACTUALLY CROSSES SPRING CREEK DRIVE.
AND SO THERE'S A GREAT BIG FLOODPLAIN.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO NAVIGATE BACK THERE, BUT WE'VE COMPLETED A FINAL ALIGNMENT.
AND SO WHERE WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH HOA FOR ACTUAL EASEMENTS TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT.
ONCE WE HAVE THOSE EASEMENTS IN PLACE, AND WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TWEAK THE ALIGNMENT ANYMORE, WE'LL COME UP WITH A PROFILE GRADE LINE AND FINAL DETAILS AND BE READY TO GO TO THE BIDDING PHASE.
SO WE ANTICIPATE COMPLETING THE DESIGN PHASE IN SEPTEMBER, AGAIN, THE CRITICAL PATH DRIVER, THERE IS ACQUISITION OF EASEMENTS THAT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A PROBLEM THERE.
ALL OF THESE EASEMENTS ARE ENCUMBERED ALREADY AS DRAINAGE EASEMENTS.
SOME OF THEM ARE ALREADY ENCUMBERED AS PART EASEMENTS, BUT WE WANT TO REFINE THAT LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SPECIFIC AUTHORITY TO BUILD THE TRAIL BACK THERE.
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UM, THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS EXPECTED TO LAST ABOUT A YEAR.UH, WE, WE FULLY EXPECT TO BE IN CONSTRUCTION BY DECEMBER AND HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
THAT'LL GIVE US PLENTY OF TIME TO GET THE PROJECT DONE WITHIN THE 24 MONTH CONTRACT TIME.
THIS PROJECT IS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY A $200,000 GRANT FROM TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT, THAT SWEETENED THE POT A LITTLE BIT, ANYTIME THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE LOCAL FUNDS WITH FUNDING FROM A FORM OF THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD DEAL.
I THINK FOR THE GOVERNING ENTITY OR FOR THE CITY, THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDING WILL BE FROM THE CITY COUNTY.
I'LL DO WHAT THERE ARE SOME CAUTIONARY NOTES HERE.
WHEN WE PUT THIS APPLICATION TOGETHER, IT WAS IN 2019.
A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2019.
I THINK INFLATION IS PROBABLY A WORD THAT EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH THESE DAYS.
AND SO THE PROJECT COSTS KEEP GOING UP.
WE EXPECT THIS SEGMENT OF TRAIL TO COST A LITTLE BIT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
THAT'S KIND OF A SCARY NUMBER.
UH, WE'RE EARLY ENOUGH IN THE DESIGN PHASE THAT WE'RE STILL DOING VALUE ENGINEERING AND FINDING WAYS TO CUT COSTS WHERE WE CAN.
BUT, UH, I THINK, UH, I THINK THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A BIG NUMBER TO GET THIS THING CONSTRUCTED HERE IS HERE IS THE PRELIMINARY TRAIL ALIGNMENT.
NOW I APOLOGIZE FOR THE RESOLUTION THAT IS JUST THE SCREEN, A SMALL, BUT IF YOU ZOOM IN, YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF DETAIL THERE.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO CONTOURS THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT ARE A PART, THE PROJECT.
SO WE FLEW THIS THING WITH A, WITH A DRONE AND I MEAN, OUR, OUR DRONE OR UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLE TAKES EXCELLENT PHOTOS.
IT DOES A GREAT JOB OF COLLECTING DATA POINTS SO THAT WE CAN, UH, WE CAN DETERMINE CONTOURS WITHIN ABOUT TWO TENTHS OF A FOOT.
THAT'S PRETTY GOOD FOR, FOR RAW PROPERTY.
AND SO WE'RE REAL PROUD OF THE FIGURE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE RED FIGURE IS THE ALIGNMENT OF THE TRAIL.
UM, IN THE MIDDLE HERE, UH, KIND OF SOUTH OF SPRING CURB, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE EAST OF SPRING CREEK DRIVE.
THERE'S AN UNUSUAL KIND OF PROJECTION THERE IN THE TRAIL.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE'RE DESIGNING THIS THING TO FH W A STANDARDS FOR OFF-ROAD VEHICLES IN THE FORM OF LIKE GOLF CARTS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO WE HAD TO HAVE SOME PRETTY WIDE RADIUSES ON PEOPLE DON'T RUN OFF THE TRAIL, UH, EITHER WITH, UH, WITH, UH, VEHICLES SUCH AS GOLF CARTS OR BICYCLES OR ANY TYPE OF WHEELED VEHICLE.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNUSUAL CONFIGURATION.
THERE IS, AS IT CROSSES THE LEVEE IN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW THE TRAIL FOLLOWS THE SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT UP TO SPRING BRANCH DRIVE, AND THEN OVER TO JAMES ATKINS.
SO ALIGNMENT SET SURVEYS, COMPLETE WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACQUIRING EASEMENTS.
SO WE HAVE 10 PROPERTIES HERE.
UH, THE, UH, TWO IN THE MIDDLE THAT ARE THE DARKER BROWN COLOR.
THOSE ARE ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF KYLE ALREADY.
SO WE DON'T NEED EASEMENTS THERE, BUT WE DO NEED EASEMENTS FOR ONE THROUGH FIVE AND THEN EIGHT THROUGH 10, WE'RE ALREADY ENGAGING, UH, THE DIFFERENT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, UH, MS. VICTORIA RIVERA, WHICH IS AN ATTORNEY THAT REPRESENTS THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH US TO DEVELOP THE EASEMENT LANGUAGE.
WE HAD A MEETING WITH HER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE PROGRESSING NICELY.
WE KNOW WHAT THE EASEMENT LANGUAGE NEEDS TO SAY.
AND SO I THINK THAT WE'RE LITERALLY JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AWAY FROM MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS ON ACQUIRING EASEMENTS.
WE BEGAN PUTTING TOGETHER OUR DRAWINGS, LIKE I SAY, WE'RE ABOUT 30% COMPLETE.
SO WE HAVE A SET OF DRAWINGS PUT TOGETHER.
SOME OF THIS STUFF IS JUST BOILER PLATE STUFF, LIKE TITLE SHEETS, GENERAL NOTES, WHICH THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE, THERE'S THE PROJECT LOCATION BETWEEN F150 AND JAMES ATKINS.
AND THEN THESE ARE STANDARD DETAILS THAT WE'LL USE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEN HERE ARE THE ACTUAL PLAN SHEETS.
AND AGAIN, ONCE WE HAVE THE ALIGNMENT NAILED DOWN, WE CAN PUT THE PROFILE GRADE LINE IN FOR THE TRAIL, AND THOSE WILL LOOK A LOT MORE COMPLETE, BUT WE'RE PLEASED WITH OUR PROGRESS.
WE WERE WELL WITHIN THE 20 MORE 24 MONTHS FIGURE, UH, TO GET THIS THING DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER CUSTOMER FLOORS CAMP? UM, THANK YOU.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A TOUR IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO WORK.
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TO LIKE, TAKE A FEW OF US ON A TOUR JUST TO LOOK AT IT? SURE.I HAVE A SPECIAL HIKING STICK THAT I FOUND ON THE FRAIL AND I'LL USE THAT WHEN WE HEAR IT, WHEN WE HAVE THE TOUR.
HAPPY TO DO THAT COUNSEL FOR US.
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Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager
- Budget Workshops
- Boards and Commissions Openings
- National Trails Day - June 4th
- Movie in the Park - June 7th
- Juneteenth Celebration/First Market Day - June 11th
- Family Skate Night - June 17th
- James Adkins Pool Public Swim Day open June 24th
- AMVETS Walker Event - June 12th
- Juneteenth Dialogue - June 17th
- State of the City - June 28th
- 4th of July Fireworks
- Summer Reading Program
I'LL WAIT FOR THAT SCREEN TO CHANGE OVER HERE.
MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, FIRST UP ON THE CITY MANAGER PART, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN AGENDA TONIGHT.
NOW WE ACTUALLY KNOW WHO'S COVERING WHICH SLIDES.
SO I'LL TAKE THE FIRST COUPLE AND, UH, WE'VE GOT A FEW THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.
SO FIRST OFF IS BUDGET WORKSHOPS AND WE HAVE OUR WORK SESSION.
UH, WHICH IS COMING UP ON JULY 7TH.
SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT IS MARKED ON YOUR CALENDAR IS FIVE 30.
AGAIN, PUBLIC IS ABSOLUTELY WELCOME TO JOIN US FOR ANY OF THESE WORK SESSIONS.
THEN YOU'LL SEE THE DATES FOR THE REMAINING THREE WORK SESSIONS.
UH, WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY AS STAFF GOING THROUGH ALL THE NUMBERS AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT NEXT WORK SESSION.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE BOARD AND COMMITTEES, UH, APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO WE ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW, AND THIS IS A BIG SHOUT OUT TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AND VOLUNTEER.
THERE ARE A LOT OF, UH, OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE BOARDS, COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS, ET CETERA, UH, THAT WILL HAVE SEATS OPEN.
AND, UH, YOU CAN FIND INFORMATION ON LINE@CITYOFKYLE.COM SLASH BC GAN.
UH, YOU'LL NEED TO SIGN UP BY AUGUST 31ST AND THEN, UH, YOU WILL BE INVITED TO A SELECTION BY COUNCIL.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MARIANA SPINOSA HEY, MARIN COUNCIL, ANDREA SPINOZA PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
UH, THIS FRIDAY AT GREG CLARK PARK AT SUNDOWN AT THE BASKETBALL COURTS.
WE'RE SHOOTING LITTLE RISK SKILLS.
THERE'S NO REGISTRATION REQUIRED AND IT'S FREE TO ATTEND.
AND THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY, THE SATURDAY, WE HAVE OUR FIRST JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION DOWNTOWN ON BURLESON STREET AND CITY SQUARE PARK.
AND IT WAS ALSO OUR FIRST BARGAINING DAY OF THE SEASON.
THE JUNE 10TH PROGRAM BEGINS AT 9:00 AM, AND THEN FOLLOWING THE VENDORS WILL OPEN YOU'LL THERE'S LIVE PERFORMANCES FROM OUR BRAND NEW KYLE BATON TWIRLERS, UH, FALLIN FRANKLIN, AND HOUSTON'S BALLET'S FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN BALLERINA.
SO THAT'S THIS SATURDAY AT CITY SQUARE PARK AT NINE O'CLOCK.
AND THEN NEXT SATURDAY, WE HAVE OUR SKATE NIGHTS AT ASH PAVILION.
UH, YOU DO HAVE TO REGISTER ONLINE TO SIGN YOUR WAIVER.
THAT'S FROM SEVEN TO NINE, AND WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF, OR WE CAN HAVE OPEN SWIM TIME AT THE POOL.
SO THE POOL WILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, RIGHT NOW, TWO DAYS A WEEK ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, UM, IF, AND WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO SECURE MORE STAFF THAT ARE TRAINED, WE WILL ADD MORE PUBLIC SWIM TIMES.
UM, AND THEN DURING THE WEEK, THE POOL IS HOSTING OUR SWIM TEAM AND STILL HOSTING ALL OF OUR RENTALS ON THE WEEKENDS.
SO PUBLIX WON'T BE ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS BEGINNING JUNE 24TH AND LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY, WE WILL BE CELEBRATING OUR NATION'S INDEPENDENCE.
UH, THIS YEAR, OUR FIREWORKS SHOW WILL BE LAUNCHED FROM LAKE KYLE PARK SINCE SEVERITY PARK IS NOT QUITE READY FOR THE, UH, FIREWORKS TO BE LAUNCHED OVER THERE.
SO WE, THIS YEAR ONLY, UM, PARKING WILL NOT BE ALLOWED AT LIKE HOW A PARK, BUT PARKING AND VIEWING OF THE FIREWORKS IS ENCOURAGED.
AND OTHER LOCATIONS SUCH AS TOBY ELEMENTARY STEEPLECHASE PARK, FRONT, THOSE ELEMENTARY, AND WITH THE PARK BEING CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC, WE ARE ABLE TO SHOOT LARGER SIZED SHELLS.
SO THE FIREWORKS WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE, BE SEEN FOR MANY LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT KYLE THIS YEAR.
UM, AND THAT WILL BE AT APPROXIMATELY NINE 30 ON MONDAY, JULY 4TH.
UM, AND THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT HAS SECURE RADIO STATION.
SO THAT WILL BE MARKETED AND YOU CAN HEAR OUR INDEPENDENCE DAY MUSIC AS YOU WATCH THE FIREWORKS SHOW.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF SLIDES.
UM, SO I, I WAS REACHED OUT BY A LOT OF RESIDENTS, UM, SHOWING THIS CONTENT FOR THE PLACE.
UM, AND OF COURSE THERE WERE DIFFERENT STORIES AND I APPRECIATE YOU TELLING ME EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES, BECAUSE I KNOW PARKING IS AN ISSUE AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TAKE SHUTTLES, UM, UH, COMMUNICATING AGAIN WITH A GOLF COURSE TO SEE IF THERE IS A CHANCE
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TO DO THEM THERE AGAIN.RIGHT? SO AS SOON AS WE FOUND OUT THAT LORETTA PARK WOULD NOT BE READY FOR THE FIREWORKS SHOW, WE DID REACH OUT TO THE CONCRETE GOLF COURSE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY I HAD ALREADY MADE OTHER ARRANGEMENTS SINCE WE HAD TOLD THEM WHERE HE HAD A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
I HAVE NOT BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM SINCE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS, BUT LAST I WAS TOLD IT WAS, IT WAS AN AVAILABLE FOR 4TH OF JULY.
SO, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CANNOT CHANGE.
I MEAN, LET'S SAY THAT THEY COME BACK AND SAY, YES, WE CAN DO THEM HERE.
IS THAT SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDER FOR THE CD OR WILL THAT BE TO I ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND CITY MANAGER? UM, IT LIKES, I FAR AS FAR AS THE JULY FIREWORKS IS LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY, SO I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE DIRECTION OF JERRY.
CARRIE, JERRY HENDRICKS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD, UH, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE GOLF COURSE AS RECENTLY AS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY STILL DID NOT HAVE AVAILABILITY FOR US TO OUR FIREWORKS SHOW THERE.
WE'VE ALSO EXPLORED OTHER POTENTIAL VENUES IN, UH, PUMP CREEK AREA.
AND THEY'RE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND A PLACE WHERE IT'D BE SAFE TO LAUNCH FIREWORKS THIS YEAR.
WE DO PLAN ON RETURNING TO THE PUMP CREEK AREA NEXT YEAR.
OH, CAN I HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTION? ARE YOU REFERENCING THE POOL? OKAY.
UM, I KNOW THIS IS A, AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH ALL THE OTHER CITIES TRYING TO HIRE LIFEGUARDS.
UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO HELP TRY TO PROMOTE THAT, THAT WE STILL HAVE OPENINGS? I KNOW WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE OPEN TWICE A WEEK, CORRECT? FOR THE WEEK FOR PUBLIC SWIM, FOR PRIVATE SWIM.
SO JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING AT TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO APPLY, RIGHT? THE POOL WILL BE UTILIZED BY THE PUBLIC SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BUT THEN THE CAPACITY WAS SWIM TEAM RENTALS AND TWO DAYS, BUT ONLY BE PUBLIC SWIM.
AND SO THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, AND OF COURSE WITH SUPPORT OF MANAGEMENT, WORKED REALLY HARD, UM, TO SECURE A $250 SIGN-ON BONUS FOR ALL APPLICANTS THAT ARE HIRED THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS RAISES STARTING RIGHT TO UP TO $15 AN HOUR.
UM, AND THOSE WERE TWO THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE, WHICH HELPED US RECRUIT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
UM, AND WE'RE STILL ACTIVELY, ACTIVELY TRYING TO GET OUT THE WORD OUT AND ON THE PUBLIC STAFF OF 10, SEVERAL JOB FAIRS, UM, TRY TO GET A NEWSLETTERS WITH THE CHURCHES IN SCHOOLS BEFORE THEY LET OUT.
UM, SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO RECRUIT MORE STAFF AND REALLY PUSHING THAT $250 HIGHER ON BONUS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT WE'VE ALSO BEEN TO THE SCHOOLS AND OTHER PLACES WHERE POTENTIAL LIFEGUARD CANDIDATES WOULD HANG OUT AND, UM, EVEN CONTRACTED THIRD PARTY COMPANIES THAT THEY WOULD HIRE OUT LIFEGUARDS.
AND NONE OF THOSE PLACES HAVE LIFEGUARDS IF I LEAVE EITHER MAYOR PRO TEM.
SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR SCREEN ON, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU ROBERT.
UM, IF YOU, HEY, JUST TEXT, TEXT ME, ROBERT, TEXT ME YOUR QUESTION AND I'LL BRING IT UP HERE IN A SECOND, IF YOU WANT.
SO, UH, IS THERE, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO ADD MARIANNA CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE? THANK YOU.
UM, FOR THE PRIVATE USERS, UM, DO THEY BRING THEIR OWN LIFE CARDS? NO, WE STAFF LIFE PART AS PART OF THEIR RENTALS.
SO WE DID, WE DID, UM, AMY, OUR RECREATION MANAGER DID EXPLORE WITH RCS INSURANCE AND IF IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO BRING THEIR OWN LIFEGUARDS, UM, THAT'S ONE OPTION WE DID EXPLORE, OR THE DECISION WAS MADE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO STAFF THEM.
IF WE CONTINUE TO STAFF IT, IS IT JUST THAT WE CAN OPEN TO THE PRIVATE PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE'S LESS PEOPLE BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A LIVE CARDS, I GUESS I'M JUST KIND OF CONFUSED AS TO WHY IT'S NOT OPEN TO THAT.
THE RENTALS ARE ONLY TWO HOURS.
REPUBLIC SWIM IS FIVE TO EIGHT HOURS.
SO WE CAN, IT'S EASIER TO GET THE LIFEGUARDS TO WORK FOR JUST TWO HOURS.
AND BASICALLY IT OPEN THAT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
AND IT'S ALSO BASED ON OUR LIFEGUARD AVAILABILITY, WHERE I DON'T HAVE VERY YOUNG ADULTS THAT WORK IN THE POOL HAVE BANNED EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, SPORTS TRAVEL, AND SO WORKING AROUND THEIR SCHEDULES.
THAT'S HOW THE SCHEDULE WAS DETERMINED.
SO THE REPORT WILL CONTINUE NOW AND WE HAVE RACHEL SONYA.
UM, SO I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE CENTRAL TEXAS AND VETS 5K AND 11 K WALK THEY HAVE COMING UP.
UM, IT WILL BE ON SUNDAY, JUNE 12TH.
SO THIS WEEKEND, UH, REGISTRATION
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STARTS AT 8:00 AM, ASH PAVILION AND GREG CLARK PARK.UH, THEY HAVE, I THINK SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIERS, $4 FOR MOST PEOPLE, I THINK $3 OR $2 FOR ANYONE UNDER 12.
AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO GET THE SPECIAL AVA CERTIFICATE, IT'S $5.
UM, EVERYONE THAT REGISTERS DOES GET A COMMEMORATIVE COOLING TOWEL FOR IT.
AND THERE'LL BE HAVING THE CELEBRATION AFTERWARDS FROM 11:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AT THE ACTUAL AND VETS POST 1, 1, 5, UH, FOR MORE INFORMATION GO TO OUR CITY CALENDAR PAGE.
THERE IS A CALENDAR EVENT PAGE FOR IT NEXT LEG.
UH, THE NEXT EVENT THOUGH WILL ALSO BE, UH, OUR JUNETEENTH DIALOGUE FOR A PIECE IN PROGRESS.
THAT'LL BE ON FRIDAY, JUNE 17TH, STARTING AT 7:00 PM.
UH, BUT THAT WILL BE, UH, THERE WE GO.
UH, THAT WILL BE HERE AT CAL CITY HALL.
THERE WILL BE STREAMING OPTIONS ON THE CITY OF KYLE FACEBOOK PAGE, AS WELL AS ON, UM, OUR KYLE TIN AND YOUTUBE CHANNELS.
UH, YOU CAN, UH, WE'RE STILL TAKING DIALOGUE PANELISTS RIGHT NOW.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING A DIALOGUE PANELISTS, YOU CAN GO TO CITY, KYLE.COM FORWARD SLASH DIALOGUE.
THERE'S A WEB FORM TO FILL OUT THERE, OR YOU CAN, UH, EMAIL COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, UH, TELLING THEM THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING A PANELIST.
AND OF COURSE THE 2022 STATE OF THE CITY IS COMING UP ON TUESDAY, JUNE 28TH.
UH, THIS IS HOSTED BY THE KYLE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, TICKETS AND SPONSORSHIPS ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE ON THE KYLE CHAMBERS WEBSITE.
UH, IT WILL BE A TEXAS OLD TOWN THIS YEAR AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE LOTS OF EXCITING INFORMATION AND THINGS TO DISPLAY THERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL FOR RACHEL.
AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE POLL THING OKAY, GOOD EVENING.
MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M PAUL FALLON DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.
AND OF COURSE OUR 2022 SUMMER READING PROGRAMMING HAS KICKED OFF ON JUNE 1ST.
IT WILL BE RUNNING THROUGH JULY 30TH.
AND SO WE HAVE A WHOLE RANGE OF ACTIVITIES FOR FOLKS, AND THIS IS ALL POSTED SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.
AND WE SHARE THIS OVER TO THE CITY ACCOUNTS AS WELL.
AND OF COURSE WE HAVE ALL THE MARKETING MATERIALS AT THE LIBRARY, BUT OUR LARGE PROGRAMS THIS YEAR WILL BE ON SATURDAYS.
SO WE MOVED THOSE HOPING THAT MORE FOLKS WOULD HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO THEM.
SO I THINK THIS, THIS SATURDAY, JUNE 11TH, FROM 11 TO 12, WE HAVE DIDGERIDOO DOWN UNDER NOW THAT WILL BE A STREAMED PROGRAM ON A LARGE SCREEN.
AND ONE OF THE RARE ONES THAT WE RAN INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT, SOME FOLKS STILL WANTED TO DO THAT, BUT, UM, AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATING CULTURE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, MUSIC DANCE FOR THE KIDS AND JUST A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS.
WE'LL HAVE MOVIE MATINEES EVERY THURSDAY.
UH, AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE'LL HAVE AUSTIN REPTILES ON JULY 2ND, PERCUSSION THINGS ON JULY 9TH, THE SATURDAY PROGRAMS, THE KIDS CAN ENJOY PLAYING DRUMS, UM, JAPANESE ORIGAMI IN ANOTHER PROGRAM, AND JUST LOTS OF MOVIES ON THURSDAYS AS WELL, AND OTHER THINGS SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE WEEK.
SO WE HOPE EVERYBODY COMES ON DOWN SIGNS UP FOR THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM NOW.
SO FOR AGES ZERO TO FOUR, WHEN YOU READ 120 MINUTES, YOU DO GET A PRI YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME PRIZES THERE AT THE LIBRARY, BUT ALSO YOU GET ENTERED FOR A DRAWING.
AT THE END, WE WILL HAVE GIFT CERTIFICATES AND THINGS AT THE END OF THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM FOR AGES FIVE TO 10, IT'S 180 MINUTES FOR THE MINIMAL AGES, 11 TO 17, IT'S TWO 40.
AND FOR ADULTS, IT IS 300 MINUTES.
SO WE HOPE ADULTS COME OUT AND READ AS WELL.
AND YOU CAN SIGN UP AT IT IS IT LET'S SEE WHERE'S THE ADDRESS I'M LOOKING AT HERE.
SO IT'S KYLE.BOOK POINTS.ORG, AND THE EASIEST WAY TO FIND THAT IS JUST GO TO THE LIBRARY CITY PAGE, CLICK ON LIBRARY.
AND RIGHT THERE, IT'S GOING TO SAY SIGN UP FOR THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM RIGHT HERE WITH AN EXCLAMATION POINT.
YOU CLICK ON THAT AND YOU'RE THERE.
SO THAT'S THE EASY WAY TO DO IT.
AND THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS.
I CAN KEEP COUNSEL, WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON AND SOME GREAT STAFF TO GET A DENSE.
UM, UH, WHEN WAS THE TIME FOR JUNE 11TH MARKET DAYS? WHEN DID IT START NINE TO TWO? THAT'LL BE FUN.
THERE'LL BE OUR FIRST, FIRST MARKET DAYS WITH THE NEWLY REVAMPED PARK.
SO I BELIEVE ITS CAPACITY IS SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASED FROM WHAT WE ALREADY HAD BEFORE.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ONE.
[9. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP CIP ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.[00:45:05]
GOOD EVENING.MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
UH, WE'RE FINISHING OUT THE GRANITE AT THE HONOR WALL WITH THE PORCELAIN COMING IN.
UH, THIS WEEK, THE RING WALL GRANTED INSTALLATION IS IN PROGRESS.
LANDSCAPING PLANNINGS ARE IN PROGRESS.
UH, THE WATER FEATURE WIRING FOR THE EQUIPMENT IS ONGOING AND THE PUMPING EQUIPMENT TESTING IS PENDING.
WE'RE WAITING TO FILL UP THE POND.
THERE WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE WATER TO BE ABLE TO TEST THAT.
AND THE EXPECTED COMPLETION DATE IS IN JULY THE PARK WE'RE AT 54% COMPLETE PLAYGROUND.
INSTALLATION IS GOING ON SIDEWALKS AND HARDSCAPE IS ONGOING.
WE'RE PREPARING FOR THE ROOFING THERE AT THE PAVILION.
UH, IRRIGATION IS BEING INSTALLED AND WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING SOME TOP SOIL FOR THE NEXT WEEK.
EXPECTED COMPLETION DATE IS LATE 2022 PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
THIRTY-FIVE PERCENT COMPLETE A PHASE ONE THEY'RE WORKING ON THE WINDOW FLASHING AND BLOCKING.
THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SECOND FLOOR METAL DUCT WORK PHASE TWO AND THREE.
THEY'RE STILL DOING SOME ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING.
ROUGH-IN ON PHASE THREE AND FOUR.
THEY'RE WORKING ON THE EXTERIOR SHEETING AND THEY'RE ALSO FORMING, UH, FOR THE NORTH PARKING LOT, UH, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATES, FEBRUARY 6TH, 2023, SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON PAST EVENTS.
WE'RE STILL AT 94% COMPLETE THE NEXT SESSION TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS EDWARDS DRIVE TO POST ROAD.
UH, THERE'S A CHANGE ORDER THAT I'LL TALK TO YOU LITTLE BIT ABOUT LATER IN MY PRESENTATION, EXCUSE ME.
UH, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION PROJECT.
JUNE 2ND IS A, THE PLANT CAME ONLINE ACCORDING TO OPERATORS.
UM, THE DE-WATERING FACILITY IS 25% COMPLETE.
WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK ON SATURDAYS.
UH, WE EXPECT TO COMPLETE TO DO AND FACILITY IN AUGUST OF 2022.
UH, WE'RE EXPERIENCED SUPPLY CHAIN DELAYS OBVIOUSLY, AS EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS IS WITH THE OPERATIONS BUILDING FURNITURE.
UH, I THINK WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A KIND OF A WALK THROUGH THE SITE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE ALL OF OUR LID OR A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STUFF COMPLETED.
AND THE FURNITURE IN THE BUILDING BEFORE WE HAVE STARTED HAVING ANY KIND OF WALKTHROUGH THROUGH THE BUILDING FOR FOLKS TO SEE THAT, BUT IN THE CREEK INTERCEPTOR, THE LINE IS IN USE.
UH, UH, WE'RE STILL FINALIZING PAPERWORK.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE LAST SLIDES WE'LL SEE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
OH, POST ROAD, THE COUNTY STILL WORKING ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROJECT.
THEY'RE SOUTH OF ONE 50, THEY'RE WORKING ABOUT 900 FEET.
THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO SOME TESTING ON THEIR FIRST LAYER BASE, ELLIOT BRANCH.
WE STILL HAVE SOME ROADS CLOSED IN THE AREA.
WE'RE INSTALLING THE LAST WASTEWATER SERVICE TODAY.
ALL THE WATER SERVICES WILL BE INSTALLED BY JUNE 17TH AND IT WILL BE DOING ALL THE TESTING DURING THE JUNE 9TH THROUGH THE GENES, THROUGH THE 17TH.
WE'RE EXPECTING TO COMPLETE THAT IN FALL OF 2022.
THE BIG LAST PART THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IS GOING TO BE THE, UH, PAVING THE ROADS.
I ADDED THIS SLIDE IN JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DOWNTOWN RELOCATION.
UM, THEY'RE ABOUT 74% COMPLETE.
ALL THE UNDERGROUND CONDUIT IS IN, UH, WE'RE WAITING ON PEC TO START MOVING SOME OF THE NOODLE LINES IN THAT THEY NEED TO PLACE.
AND WE'RE DOING SOME CLEAN UP THIS WEEK.
WE'RE ALSO HAVING A DELAY IN GETTING SOME OF THE PANELS AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED FOR SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL STUFF.
SO WE WE'RE HEARING IT'S ABOUT 22 WEEKS OUT WHEN SOME OF THE STUFF.
SO WE'RE DELAYING ON THIS PROJECT TO
[V. Consent Agenda]
GOING OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, UH, ITEM 10 IS IN YOUR LOCAL WITH HAYES COUNTY.THIS IS FOR A PROJECT THAT WE WANT.
THE LJA IS GOING TO BE THE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDING 12 FOOT OF A SHARED USE VEHICLE PATH THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THERE FROM, UH, ON DAISEY FROM BB TO CHAPA.
THEN FROM THERE, IT GOES DOWN TO 10 FEET.
THEY'RE ALSO INSTALLING STREET LIGHTING.
THEY'RE ALSO INSTALLING A TEMPORARY LIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF DC AND BB ON THE ITEM.
NUMBER 11, THAT'S RELATED TO ITEM 10.
THAT'S IN THAT IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT.
THIS IS TO PAY THE ENGINEER TO DO THE DESIGN SO WE CAN CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD THAT, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UH, NUMBER 22 IS A TASK ORDER TO LJ ENGINEERING.
IF MOST OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT, THERE IS NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON SOUTH OF YERINGTON.
IT'S THE NEW FM ONE 10 AND A THAT'S BRAND NEW RIGHT AWAY.
TXDOT DOES AT THAT PROJECT THERE, LJ LJ IS A DESIGN ENGINEER.
WE HAVE ASKED HIM TO ADD A 4,600 FEET OF WATER LINE, 16 INCH WATER LINE FROM OUR EXISTING GROUND STORAGE AND TAKE IT TO THE EAST AND TIED TO THAT.
UH, NEW DEVELOPED THERE AT WATERSTONE WATERSTONE, THEY'LL DEVELOP IT, WE'LL PICK IT UP AND ENTER INTO THEIR SUBSIDY SUBDIVISION ON ITEM 23.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KIND OF BRING UP AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR CHANGE ORDER.
UH, THERE'S THREE BIG REASONS FOR THIS PREDICTOR CHANGE ORDER BEING SO LARGE.
UH, TYPICALLY WHEN YOU DO THESE KINDS OF CONTRACTS, YOU DO BORES
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EVERY SO MANY FEET.THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, THE BOARDS WERE DONE ABOUT 1500 FEET APART, AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE, GUESTS, WHERE WE HIT THE HARD ROCK HE WAS BETWEEN THOSE TWO BOARDS.
WE LOOKED AT THE BOARS AND THE CONTRACTOR AND COUNTS AND REALLY HARD ROCKS, WHAT WE CALL THE BLUE ROCK.
AND SO HE FOUND A OUTCROP THERE OF THE BLUE ROCK.
IT TOOK HIM 43 DAYS TO GET THROUGH THAT SECTION OF ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET.
AND IT NORMALLY WOULD HAVE TAKEN HIM ABOUT EIGHT DAYS.
SO WE'RE ENDING AT PAM TO PAY FOR THAT.
THE DIFFERENCE OF THE GROUND CONDITIONS THAT WAS ABOUT $95,000 IN THAT PARTICULAR CHANGE.
THE OTHER MAJOR ONE WAS INFECTED THE ALEXANDER PROPERTY AS WE ACQUIRED THAT EASEMENT.
UH, ORIGINALLY WE HAD A FORCE MAIN OUT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY TEXTILES RIGHT AWAY AFTER WE ACQUIRED THE EASEMENT, WE DECIDED TO REPLACE THAT FORCED ME WITH A GRAVITY LINE.
AND OF COURSE, REGGIE LINE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN IS, IS DEEPER AND ALSO LARGER.
SO WE HAD TO PAY THE DIFFERENCE FOR THAT PARTICULAR INSTALLATION.
SO WE LOOKING AT ABOUT $200,000 IN THAT PARTICULAR CHANGE.
SO, AND THE CONTRACTOR WAS THERE IN THE AREA, SO HE DIDN'T WANT HIM TO HAVE TO REMOBILIZE.
SO HE SAID TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE PROJECT WE HAD REDESIGNED AND THEY BUILT THAT NEW SECTION WITH GRAVITY LINE.
WHENEVER WE HAVE FORCE MAIN, WE ALWAYS WANT TO TRY TO GET RID OF FORCE MAIN AND PUT A GRAVITY LINE THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY THE AMOUNTS OF $200,000 DIFFERENCE ON THE LAST ITEM.
IT'S FOR THE SECTION IT'S IN FRONT OF THE MURRAY PROPERTY.
UH, WE DECIDED TO TRY TO PUT THAT LINE BACK IN WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY WE HAVE ABOUT 30 FEET THERE, THERE'S A 12 INCH WATER LINE.
THERE'S A FIBER OPTIC THERE THERE'S GAS LINE, AND WE'VE GOT 30 FEET TO PUT AN 18 INCH GRABBY LINE IN A 14 INCH FORCE MAIN IN THAT SECTION, THAT'S LEFT THERE AS A RESULT.
UH, THEY ALLOWED US TO USE IT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BACKFIELD THAT WASN'T AS EXPENSIVE AS WHAT THEY ASKED US TO DO ORIGINALLY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONTROL.
THAT WAS ANOTHER $120,000 FOR THEIR CHANGE ORDER.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $415,000 OF THAT CHANGE ORDER WAS THOSE THREE BIG ITEMS, BUT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN IT A BIT BETTER TO YOU AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BARBARA CUSTOMER? TOBY IS OKAY.
THAT'S WHEN GEORGE STREET THERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE STREET LIGHT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT UP AT DACEY AT THE CORNER, UH, DE CMBB, IS IT GOING TO BE A ACTUAL WORKING TRAFFIC LIGHT OR IS IT GOING TO BE A LAMP? POSTLIGHT IT'S JUST A STREET LIGHT.
IT'S JUST A STREET LIGHT, KIND OF LIKE WHERE WE PUT ONE, IT'S A SETON PARKWAY, ONE OF THOSE, BECAUSE IT'S JUST A TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY FOR NOW THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS COMING.
WELL, I'M JUST GLAD IT'S COMING BECAUSE I GET FUEL THERE SOMETIMES AROUND EIGHT, NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, AND ALL YOU HAVE IS SOME SMALL STOP SIGNS.
I'VE SEEN SO MANY CARS RUN THOSE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE TO LINE UP.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT'S COMING.
I THINK THE LINE ITEM COSTS FOR THAT WAS AROUND A LITTLE OVER $3,000.
WE'LL TAKE YOU, CAUSE WE'RE PERSONALLY, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM 23.
SO, UM, NOW I KNOW YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE DOING TO GRAB THAT LENS VERSUS THE FORCE MAIN.
SO I KNOW FORCE ME NORMALLY, UM, YOU HAVE TO DIG DEEPER, UH, LESS DEEP THAN DOING A GRAVITY, WHICH PROBABLY REDUCES THE COST, BUT NORMALLY YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE A LIFT STATION FOR THAT.
SO HAD WE ALREADY BUDGET FOR THE LIFT STATION? WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT? YES.
THE LIFT STATION IS STILL IN PLACE.
THAT'S A REALLY, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S A REALLY LONG STRETCH OF GRAVITY, A FORCE MAIN.
AND WE REDUCED IT BY SIX, I THINK, 1600 FEET.
SO IT WAS A 14 INCH FORCE MAIN AND IT WAS ABOUT FOUR FEET DEEP AND REPLACED IT WITH AN 18 INCH LINE.
WHY EXACTLY THAT IT'S WELL, WE REPLACED IT WITH, AS A GRAVITY LINE MAINTENANCE WISE, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A GRAVITY LINE THAN A FORCE MAIN BECAUSE IT'S UNDER PRESSURE.
UM, AND I ALSO SEE THAT THERE IS ANOTHER LIFT STATION ADDED TO THIS CHANGE ORDER.
SO I WAS THINKING IF WE ALREADY HAD BUDGETED FOR THE ONE THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE FOR THE FORCE MAIN, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ONE OR WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE ONE THAT WE HAD ALREADY BUDGETED FOR WHEN WE WERE PLANNING ON HAVING A FORCE MAIN INSTEAD OF THE GRAVITY LINE, THE CHANGE ORDER DOES NOT INCLUDE A LIFT STATION.
THAT'S A LITTLE SLEEVE THAT THEY ADDED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS S FOR A SLEEVE TO ADD INTO THE LIFT STATION.
I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT, GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
SO THAT LIFT STATION THAT WE HAVE IN THE DRIVER DRIVEWAY BOX CULVER IS NOT THE SAME ONE, THE BOX CULVERTS.
WE HAD TO EXTEND THE BOX CULVERTS IN FRONT OF THE LIFT STATION SITE.
UM, AND SO MY QUESTION, NEXT QUESTION IS, UM, ARE WE DOING ANY SORT OF SOIL TEST FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT? LIKE IF WE FIND MORE ROCK AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUDGET FOR MORE EXCAVATION, THE LAST SECTION, WE HAVE ACTUALLY TWO MORE SECTIONS TO COMPLETE.
THE ONE IS IN FRONT OF THE MURRAY PROPERTY.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ROCK IN THAT AREA AND WE DIDN'T TAKE BOARS, BUT THEY'RE NOT SPACED THAT CLOSELY.
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GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH TROUBLE WITH THAT LINE.ANYWAY, PART OF THAT, PROJECT'S GOING TO BE COSTING US MORE MAINLY BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT THERE IN TEXTILE RIGHT AWAY, WE'RE GOING TO DIG IT UP, PUT IN AS MUCH PIPING AS WE CAN DURING THE DAY, THEN CLOSE IT UP AND COVER IT UP.
THE TEXTILE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING THAT VERY OPEN IN CASE IT RAINED.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY SLOW PROCESS, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE HITTING ROCK IN THAT AREA.
I JUST SEE THAT THE CHANGE ORDERS ARE SO EXPENSIVE AND WE HAVE HAD EIGHT ALREADY.
UM, IF WE ARE PLANNING AHEAD ON, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE BUDGETING FOR ALL OF THESE CHANGES.
UM, SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS WITH, AND OURS IS AS WELL COUNCIL MEMBER.
I SEE THERE, UM, THERE WAS A CREDIT FOR 14 FEET OR 14 INCH PROBABLY FORCE MAINE.
SO THAT GAVE US, UM, WHERE, WHERE DID THAT CREDIT COME FROM? WHERE I LIKE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME BECAUSE WE REPLACED THE 14 INCH FORCE MAIN.
THEY GAVE US A CREDIT FOR THAT, BUT WE STILL HAD TO END UP PAYING THE DIFFERENCE FOR THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE 18 INCH LINE THAT WE PUT IN.
SO, SO WE GAVE BACK THOSE 14 INCH OR DO WE HAVE THEM? UH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE NOT INSTALLED.
AND ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE OF THE, THE EASE, WHEN ISSUES THAT WE HAD IN THAT PARTICULAR, WE HAD A FORCE MAN GOING IN A 90 DEGREE ANGLE INTO ANOTHER MANHOLE.
SO WE HAD TWO 90 DEGREE ANGLES.
SO MAINTENANCE WISE, IT WAS NOT A GOOD THING TO HAVE, BUT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE BECAUSE OF THE EASEMENTS THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET AT THAT TIME.
AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS.
THE FACT THAT WE FINALLY GOT THE EASEMENT, WE REMOVED THOSE TWO 90 DEGREE TURNS IN THE MANHOLE.
I MEAN, THESE ARE BIG LINES AND YOU REALLY DON'T WANT 90 RETURNS IN THOSE THINGS.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO ELIMINATE TWO MANHOLES IN THAT CASE AND NOT HAVE TO DO THE 90 DEGREE TURNS.
THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS NOT CRAZY ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, OBVIOUSLY.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WE WERE ABLE TO DECIDED TO EXTEND THE GRAVITY LINE FURTHER SOUTH.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE THE 14 INCH LINES.
LIKE WHAT WAS THAT? THE SEED DOESN'T HAVE THEM AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH THEM.
BECAUSE THE CONCERN TO ME IS WITHOUT THAT CREDIT, THIS WOULD BE A $635,000 CHANGE ORDER.
AND SO WHERE DOES THIS MONEY COME FROM? THIS IS, UH, THESE PROJECTS ARE PAID FOR THROUGH THE IMPACT FEES.
CAN YOU KIND OF, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT AN IMPACT FEE IS? KITCHEN IMPACT FEES ARE PAID BY EVERY NEW HOUSE.
EVERY NEW ESTABLISHING THAT GOES IN, THERE'S A WATER IMPACT FEE AND THERE'S A WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS PAVED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THESE PROJECTS WERE DEVELOPED BACK IN 2011 AND THE DECISION WAS MADE TO EXTEND THESE SERIALIZED BACK TOWARDS THE SOUTH.
AND SO THE IDEA WAS TO PAY FOR THESE, WITH THE IMPACT FEES, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE LIFT STATION THAT WE HAVE THERE RIGHT NOW IN PHASE ONE, THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 2000 LUAS.
AND SO AT, AT THE CURRENT RATE THAT WE HAVE A $2,826.
WE'LL GENERATE AN IMPACT FEES.
EVERY TIME YOU BUY, SOMEBODY BUYS A HOUSE, THEY HAVE TO PAY AN IMPACT FEE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER.
SO THOSE IMPACT FEES ARE, UH, EVERY YEAR DURING THE BUDGET SEASON, THEY'RE ALLOTTED.
THERE ARE A LOT OF, FOR NEW PROJECTS.
SO DO WE KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH FROM IMPACT FEES TO PAY THAT $546,000? I TALKED TO THE FINEST DIRECTOR AND DATE SAID HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT.
SO, BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING WE'VE BEEN DELAYED ON.
SO THE FUNDING THAT WE WERE GOING TO USE FOR THOSE PROJECTS, WE STILL HAVEN'T SPENT THAT MONEY.
SO THEY'RE STILL THERE AND THEY'VE BEEN DELAYED AGAIN.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT OTHER MONEY TO SPEND IT ON THIS.
SO AS LONG AS IT'S ALL WITHIN THE IMPACT FEE, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO COUNSEL, DOESN'T SEE IT.
DOESN'T COME BACK TO US FOR A VOTE TO SAY, YES, WE WANT TO REDIRECT IT TO THIS IMPACT FEE INSTEAD OF THAT ONE, IS THAT CORRECT? WE CAN SPEND THE IMPACT PIECE ON ANY PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO UPGRADE TO THE LINE, FOR EXAMPLE, OR ADD A NEW LINE THAT'S COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE.
UH, WE HAVE CONSENT AGENDA NOW ITEMS 10 THROUGH 24.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL ANY ITEMS? MOTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 24 SECOND, A MOTION BY CUSTOMER FLOORS, KALE.
TOBIA SAYS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
[VI. Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
TO GO AHEAD AND ASK IF THERE ARE, IF THERE'S ANY, UH, OBJECTION TO FINALLY PASSING AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.[25.
Consider and possible action to waive the requirement of the 12-month waiting period in Sec. 53-1205(i)(2) of the City's Code of Ordinances with regard to the application for zoning or property located at 5839 Kyle Parkway, in Hays County, Texas. CTC Residential LLC (Z-21-0091). ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member
City Council voted 1-6 to approve on 1/18/2022.
]ALL RIGHT.[VII. Consider and Possible Action]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25, CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT OF 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD IN SECTION, UH, 53[01:00:01]
DASH 1205, THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES WITH REGARDS TO THE APPLICATION FOR ZONING, UH, OR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 58 39 KYLE PARKWAY, UH, DECIDED TO SPONSOR BY CUSTOMER PARTIALLY.I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, PROPOSE TO WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT.
UH, CDC, UM, HAS PROVIDED, UM, THE SIGN THAT I BELIEVE WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR KYLE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO COME AND TALK ABOUT IT.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL YOUR FACES AGAIN.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, I'M TRAVIS, DON AL, AND HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF CTC, RESIDENTIAL WITH MY PARTNER, SHAWN RIDER, WHO'S HERE IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM AS WELL.
UH, SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE.
UH, JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU GUYS HAVE A FEW THINGS.
SO WHAT WHAT'S CHANGED ABOUT THE PROJECT, I THINK IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
REALLY THERE'S TWO ISSUES THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING.
ONE ARE THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE SITE THAT WE'RE ON THE ONE YARD LINE OF RESOLVING.
IF YOU GUYS AREN'T AWARE, JUST TO REMIND YOU.
SO SEEING HOSPITALS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR SITE, THEN WE'VE GOT LOWE'S AND WALMART AND THIS 15 AND A HALF ACRE PARCEL RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IS SUBJECT TO RESTRICTIONS FROM ALL THREE OF THOSE ENTITIES.
SO WE'RE ON THE ONE YARD LINE OF LIFTING THE ONEROUS RESTRICTIONS FROM LOWE'S, WHICH WILL ALLOW, WHICH ARE CONTINGENT UPON THE PROJECT BEING MIXED USE, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO BUILD WHAT WE EXPECT WILL BE A REALLY EXCITING, UH, CLASS, A HIGH-END APARTMENT PROJECT WITH INTEGRATED RETAIL.
THE SECOND THING TO REMIND YOU OF WHICH HAS CHANGED IS WE, IF YOU GUYS WERE CALLED ON THE NORTHERN, UH, PROPERTY BOUNDARY OF OUR SITE IS BUNTON BRANCH CREEK.
UH, WE IN TURN THE SITE REALLY THINK WE CAN CREATE, WHAT IS IT, NATURAL NITTY INTO AN ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE'VE LISTENED TO YOU GUYS.
AND OTHER PRECEDENT ZONING CASES REALLY SEE THE NEED, UH, FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND OPEN GREEN SPACE FOR FAMILIES.
AND SO WHAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS WORKING WITH SCOTT AND THE PLANNING STAFF IS COMING UP WITH A REALLY NEAT DESIGN THAT CAN BE ENJOYED BY THE COMMUNITIES.
AND, UH, WE IS OUR NEXT STEP, UH, ARE GOING TO WORK OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
IF YOU GUYS GIVE US THE CHANCE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY IT THIS AGAIN, TO COME UP WITH A REALLY AWESOME DESIGN, THAT WILL BE A GREAT VALUE ADD TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE YOUR SPORTS TRY AGAIN, AND CROWNSVILLE.
JUST THE PROCESS HERE IS SINCE IT WAS NOT APPROVED, IT DOES NEED TYPICALLY A 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD BY COUNSEL ASKING FOR IT TO COME BACK TO STARTS THE PROCESS TO NOVA WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CLARIFY, THIS IS A RECONSIDERING, THE VOTE.
SO THERE'LL BE GOING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN.
UH, THE QUESTION I HAD IS, ARE YOU GOING FOR STRAIGHT ZONING? UH, OR ARE WE GOING TO BE BRINGING FORWARD A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT SORT OF ENCAPSULATES THESE PROPOSALS? I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ZONING, BUT, BUT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE, WE'RE GOING TO BE NEW GALLEY HITTING UPON JUST WANTING TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPOSALS FOR, UH, IT BEING CLASS A FOR EXAMPLE, THE PUD WON'T ITSELF WON'T NECESSARILY SPEAK TO THAT.
AND ALSO THE AMENITIES THAT ARE PROPOSED, UH, THAT THEY WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO AN AGREEMENT THAT ENSURES THAT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE.
AND THEN ALSO THINGS LIKE TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION, MEANING THAT THEY CAN'T JUST BUILD THE MULTIFAMILY, BUT THAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD THE RETAIL CONTINGENT, UH, OR CONCURRENTLY, I WOULD SAY WITH MULTI, THOSE SORT OF BASIC THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS ASK FOR IN THESE MIXED USE PROJECTS, MAYOR.
WE WILL BE NEGOTIATING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS WELL.
THAT WILL CONTEMPLATE MATERIALITY AND ALL, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE CUSTOMER FORESCOUT.
SO, UM, SO IT SAYS ON THE AGENDA, ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHY I THINK THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN SOME CONFUSION.
IT SAYS IT APPROVED ON 1 18 22 ACTUALLY WAS DENIED.
AND SO WHEN I SPOKE WITH YOU GUYS, YOU SAID IT WAS ONLY JUST TO GET A WAIVER TO START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN.
SO ALL THAT INFORMATION WE'RE GOING TO SEE LATER ON.
UM, MY ONE ISSUE THAT I HAD WAS WITH THE TRAFFIC REPORT.
UM, AND SO THE REPORT, UM, HAD ONLY INFORMATION REGARDING, UM, THAT THE HOUSING AND NOT WITH THE BUSINESSES.
SO IF YOU GUYS COULD OBTAIN ANOTHER REPORT, UM, AND I HATE TO MAKE YOU SPEND MONEY
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AGAIN, BUT JUST TO SHOW WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MIXED USE THAT WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE RELIEF.CAUSE I THINK FOR US, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS REGARDING THAT TRAFFIC.
UM, AND THE REPORT THAT YOU SHOWED SAID, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN WHAT WAS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR, BUT IT DIDN'T ALSO HAVE THE BUSINESS PART OF IT.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST ADD THAT TO IT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 MOTION BY CUSTOMER BRADSHAW, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLORES, KALES THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[26. Discussion regarding possible text amendments and/or alternative traffic calming measures to be considered in single residential zoned areas (including but not limited to R-1-1, R-1-2, R-1-3, R-1-A, M-1, M-2, M-3). ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM 26 DISCUSSION REGARDING POSSIBLE TEXT AMENDMENTS AND OR ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO BE CONSIDERED IN SINGLE, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONED AREAS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO OUR ONE-ON-ONE OR ONE, TWO OR ONE, THREE OR ONE A AND ONE IN TWO AND THREE CUSTOMER ELSON, UH, MIRROR, A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE AGENDA ITEM UNTIL AFTER AGENDA ITEM 35.
UH, SECOND, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEP.
I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY WE WOULD POSTPONE FOR UNTIL LATER ITEM.
WHAT'S THE REASON I LIKE TO DISCUSS IT LATER IN THE AGENDA, UH, PER THE COUNCIL RULES.
IT HAS TO BE AT THE TOP, WHICH WE COMPLIED WITH AND I'D LIKE TO, IT'S A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE WITH COUNCIL.
AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE MY TIME A LITTLE BIT WITH IT.
AND SO I JUST ASKED THAT WE, UH, DISCUSS IT TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[27. Discussion and possible action regarding the City of Kyle's process of creating the Comprehensive Plan. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
OUT OF 27 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY OF COLLEGE PROCESS OF CREATING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CUSTOMER FORCE KILL.UM, THIS MEETING WENT WAY FASTER THAN I THOUGHT.
SO LET ME GET MY INFORMATION OUT.
UM, SO I HAD REACHED OUT TO A WILL, WHO ALWAYS DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF RESPONDING WITH HIS ANSWERS.
UM, AND I WAS TRYING, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN.
PROBABLY ALL OF US HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A FULL FLEDGED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND SO THROUGH MY TIME ON THE DIAS, I LEARNED THAT, UM, I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT OF RESIDENT INPUT.
UM, AND THROUGH ONLY MY READING AS FAR I WENT BACK AND I WENT TO THE CHARTER AND I WENT BACK TO THE, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
UH, AND IT REALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NOT LIKE A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE, UM, RESIDENTS ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE.
SO I GUESS I'M KIND OF CURIOUS, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE PARTICIPATION WITHIN THE CHARTER LIES WITHIN THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, UM, AND THEN THE PLANNING AND ZONING POSITION DESCRIPTION.
SO UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING I'M MISSING, CAUSE I WAS THINKING, OH, MAYBE THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT OVERSEES THAT AS WELL.
UM, BUT I GUESS, I GUESS MY CONCERN WAS TO HAVE RESIDENTS INCLUDED AT THE BEGINNING AND NOT PROVIDE THEM SOMETHING AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT, BUT TO COLLECTIVELY BE ABLE TO, UM, MAKE DECISIONS TOGETHER, BUT I DON'T FIND ANYTHING THAT GIVES RESIDENTS THAT AUTHORITY.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FUSCO WELL, I CAN SEND SENIOR POINTER, UM, WITHOUT HAVING THE CHARTER IN FRONT OF ME.
MA'AM UM, I BELIEVE YOU'RE CORRECT.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THEM BE INVOLVED FROM THE CHARTER'S PERSPECTIVE.
HOWEVER, IT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA.
UM, WHENEVER WE DO ANY FULL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF WE DO A DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN REVITALIZATION PLAN, IF YOU WILL, ANYTHING THAT'S, UH, THAT IT WILL IMPROVE THE CITY AT LARGE.
UM, WE ALWAYS WANT CITIZEN INPUT.
IT'S THE MORE DATA POINTS WE HAVE, THE MORE INPUT WE HAVE, THE BETTER IT IS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I MIGHT ALSO ADD THAT IN, IN THE RF QUEUE THAT WE ISSUED IT CALLED FOR A VERY ROBUST, INNOVATIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLAN.
AND SO THE RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE SUBMITTERS HAD TO INCLUDE THAT, UH, AS YOU RECALL, WE SELECTED A FIRM TO START NEGOTIATING WITH AND WE ARE CURRENTLY STILL IN THE, IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM IN THE NEGOTIATIONS.
THAT INCLUDES A SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH ALSO WILL BE PART, OR THIS IS THE SCOPE OF WORK WILL INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
SO IT'S, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY OUR INTENTION TO HAVE A VERY ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE OF THAT.
UM, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.
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TO AN AGREED SCOPE OF WORK AND A PRICE, WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR Y'ALL'S, UH, CONSIDERATION AND Y'ALL WILL BE ABLE TO APPROVE THAT AT THAT POINT IN TIME.SO WE'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATION, NOTHING HAS, UH, BEGUN AS PART OF THE CUPBOARDS OF PLAN YET WE'RE WE'RE NOT STARTED.
OKAY, WELL THAT'S, I GUESS IT'S WHAT BROUGHT ME TO THE EMAIL WAS BECAUSE, AND I SHOULD'VE SAID THAT FROM THE GET-GO IS I READ, UM, ONE OF THE MONDAY MANAGER MEETINGS AND IT SPOKE OF POSSIBLE THE DIFFERENT ZONE CHANGES THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WHEN I REACHED OUT AND I SAID, WELL, HOW FAR ALONG ARE WE? AND THEY SAID, YES, THAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED TO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ZONE CHANGES.
SO THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED THE EMAIL.
UM, AND I D I DID INQUIRE TO SEE HOW FAR ALONG WE WERE AND IF THOSE DECISIONS WERE BEING MADE, I JUST WANTED THE RESIDENTS TO BE INVOLVED.
AND I THINK PROBABLY WHAT YOU READ IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS THAT WILL, HAS ALONG THE WAY, BEEN MAKING NOTES ABOUT THINGS THAT HICCUPS IN THE CODE THAT HE'S FOUND THAT, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE CONSIDERED AND CHANGED.
OF COURSE, ALL OF THAT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT HE'S MADE NOTE OF THAT.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT WHEN WE'RE READY TO DO A CODE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL EVEN WANTS TO DO, UM, AT A FUTURE POINT IN TIME.
BUT THE FIRST PART OF OF THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, WRITING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THEN THE SECOND PART WOULD BE TO DO THE CODE REWRITE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WILL, HAS JUST PASSED ON HIS NOTES BASICALLY.
AND ALL OF THAT IS STILL UP FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND CONSUMPTION.
UM, I REALLY THINK WHAT COUNSELOR KEL WAS REFERRING TO IS MAKING SURE THAT WE INCLUDE WHEN WE'RE NEGOTIATING, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT GETTING THE RESIDENTS INPUT EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO SOMETHING I REALLY WANT TO PUSH ON.
THE OTHER THING, I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION TO OUR CITY MANAGER, SCOTT, UH, WHEN WE STARTED GOING TO THE COMPLETE ANSWER PLAN, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR SENIOR PLANNER.
WE STILL HAVEN'T HIRED THAT POSITION.
UH, WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS? BECAUSE THAT REALLY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
COUNSEL, I THINK WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO BRINGING BACK A RESOLUTION FOR THAT ISSUE.
CAUSE THIS IT'S BEEN ON MY MIND QUITE A BIT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMING, SIR.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION CUSTOMER TOBY'S OKAY.
I GUESS IN HINDSIGHT, COULD WE ACTUALLY GET AN OFFICIAL DATE OR TIME LIKE BY AUGUST, BY SEPTEMBER, BY OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE NOW.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF THINGS ARE LIKE, WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, WE'RE DISCUSSING IT.
BUT I REMEMBER SPEAKING ABOUT THIS WHEN I FIRST GOT SIGNED ON ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO ABOUT TRYING TO GET THIS CHANGE AND REMEMBER WHERE COUNCILMAN ALLISON WAS BRINGING THIS UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
NOW WE'RE AT THIS PHASE AND WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, I THINK IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER NOW WE'RE ALREADY HITTING JULY.
SO I THINK FOR SOME OF US, MAYBE I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THEM, BUT FROM ME IS WHEN WILL WE ACTUALLY SEE A DATE TO WHERE IT'S LIKE, WE'RE NOW GOING TO BRING IT TO YOU ON OCTOBER, AUGUST 31ST OR SEPTEMBER 10TH OR SO FORTH.
WHAT TIME FRAME CAN WE START REALLY REALISTICALLY LOOKING AT? YES, SIR.
I CAN GIVE YOU A MORE IMMEDIATE QUESTION FROM A TIMEFRAME PERSPECTIVE.
UH, LATE LAST WEEK WE RECEIVED THE, UH, THE DETAILED DOCUMENT FROM, UH, THE MATERNITY GROUP FOR OUR WIDE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE COST OF IT.
AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THEY'RE BREAKING DOWN THE DIFFERENT PHASES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND WE ARE BEGINNING TO REVIEW THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE A MEETING OR TWO WITH THEM OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS IN A FEW WEEKS TO, UM, TO, TO REALLY DELVE INTO THAT WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
SEE IF THERE NEEDS TO BE ANY TWEAKS TO IT AT ALL FROM A, FROM ADJUSTMENT, FROM A COST OR FROM SERVICES THAT NEEDED TO BE ACCOUNTED.
UM, AND THEN WHENEVER, UM, WE'RE AT A GOOD SPOT WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THEN WE'LL PROBABLY BE BRINGING IT FORWARD, UH, TO Y'ALL AS THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
AGAIN, AGAIN, THAT'S MY POINT.
WHAT, WHAT DATE CAN WE ACTUALLY PUT IN CONCRETE? LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE THE DAY BY THIS TIMEFRAME BY FALL, BY, BY THE END OF THE YEAR, BY THE 31ST TO KICK OFF THE CON THE CON EXCUSE ME, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONTRACT CONTRACT.
SO THE PROCESS, UNFORTUNATELY IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE WHILE WHEN YOU START WITH THE RFQ, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU MOVE INTO THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL WHICH WE JUST RECEIVED.
UH, THE PROPOSAL CAME BACK VERY HIGH IN PRICE.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU ALL UPFRONT,
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WE WILL NEED A LOT OF NEGOTIATING PROBABLY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, BE NEGOTIATING THAT DOWN AND HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.SO WHAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT THE COMP PLAN IS A PIECE OF THE OVERALL PROPOSAL.
THERE IS A STUDY ON VALUE PER ACRE.
THAT'S THAT IS A PIECE COLLECTIVELY.
THEY FORM A BUDGET AMOUNT THAT IS FAR LARGER THAN WE BUDGETED.
SO WE'LL BRING BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, BASICALLY WHERE, WHERE YOU WANT TO GO FROM A PRIORITY STANDPOINT, WHAT YOU THINK THE BUDGET SHOULD BE FOR EACH OF THOSE COMPONENTS.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL FINALIZE THE NEGOTIATION AFTER THAT POINT.
MOST LIKELY WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK A, AN AGREEMENT WITH, FOR UNITY'S SOMETIME IN JULY.
UH, I WOULD HOPE THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY, WHICH IS THE FIFTH, AND THEN, UH, AT THAT POINT, WE'LL HAVE A SCHEDULE TWO TO BEGIN ONCE WE PUT THEM UNDER CONTRACT WE'RE WE'RE OFF TO THE RACES.
SO MY HOPE IS IN JULY, WE GET A SCHEDULE AND WE'RE STARTING THE PROCESS.
IS THAT ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
[28. Discussion and possible action regarding a change in the City of Kyle's homestead exemption. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A CHANGE IN THE CITY OF KYLE'S HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, COUNSELOR FORCE KILL.DUE TO THE INCREASE OF HOME APPRAISALS AND SEEING CITIES AND COUNTIES SUCH AS SAN MARCUS AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY CREATE AND RAISE THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
I WANTED TO BRING THIS AGENDA ITEM FORWARD TO DISCUSS AND DECIDE WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD IMPLEMENT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR RESIDENTS, TEXAS STATE ALLOWS FOR A CITY TO, TO EXEMPT UP TO 20% OF A HOME'S VALUE, BUT THE CITY ALSO HAS THE OPTION TO SET AMOUNT UNDER 20%, BUT AT LEAST $5,000 AS A HOMEOWNER, I CAN APPRECIATE THE BENEFITS OF AN EXEMPTION, AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE A CITY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH WILL BRING SOME RELIEF TO THE ALREADY FINANCIAL TRYING TIMES.
UM, AND I'M GOING TO DISCLOSE THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF TO SAY, I DON'T THINK THE CITY HAS ONE.
UM, I DID REACH OUT TO PEREZ AND UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE, UM, REGARDING IF WE HAVE ONE OR NOT, BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
SO I GUESS I WOULD START WITH 15,000.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A $15,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
UM, IF, IF NOT MORE, UH, HOUSES HAVE INCREASED PROBABLY 60, 60% MORE THAN THEY WERE LAST YEAR.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AN EXCEPTION OF EITHER A FLAT FEE OR, YOU KNOW, A PERCENTAGE WOULD BE NICE FOR A RESIDENCE AND THE CITY WOULD STILL, UM, UH, GAIN ADDITIONAL AD VALOREM TAX DOLLARS.
I WOULDN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, DO THE FULL 20, BUT SOMETHING IN BETWEEN WOULD BE NICE.
SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION CURRENTLY, WE ONLY HAVE THE 30,000, UH, EXEMPTION FOR OVER 65.
UM, Y'ALL PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT.
UH, SO, UH, MS. RUSS CAME AND SPOKE EARLIER.
UH, SHE ACTUALLY CAME AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST BUDGET CYCLE.
UM, SO SPRING OF LAST YEAR AND SAID MANY OF THE THINGS THAT SHE POINTED OUT TO US THIS EVENING AND, UH, ALL OF US WERE ON THIS BODY EXCEPT FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
AND, UH, AS A POINT OF THAT, WE HAD SOME EXECUTIVE SESSION CONVERSATIONS WHERE PREPARES AND STAFF TALKED TO US ABOUT THESE EXEMPTIONS.
WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE ALSO RECEIVED AN EMAIL ON OCTOBER 12TH OF LAST YEAR.
ONCE AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER PARKS.
IT WAS NOT ON THE DIETS AT THE TIME, BUT EVERYONE ELSE RECEIVED THIS, UH, WITH PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION OPTIONS, UH, BOTH FOR AGE 65 AND OVER HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, UH, FINANCE STAFF GAVE US FIVE OPTIONS WITH THAT AND THEN A GENERAL RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OPTIONS.
UH, AND THEY GAVE US 10 OPTIONS WITH THAT SHOWING US ANYWHERE, AN EXEMPTION AMOUNT FROM 5,000 AND THEN GOING IN $5,000 INCREMENTS ALL THE WAY UP TO 50,000 AND IT DISPLAYED HOW MUCH TAX REVENUE WOULD BE EXEMPTED AT EACH ONE OF THOSE LEVELS.
UH, FINALLY I ALSO BROUGHT FORWARD AT OUR VISIONING WORKSHOP, UH, THAT WE HAD IN FEBRUARY, UH, THIS EXACT TOPIC.
UM, AND I WILL SAY I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT FROM THIS BODY.
UM, SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT, THAT IT IS SOMETHING OF THE ATTENTION NOW.
UM, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON THAT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW TO GET COUNSELED, TO BUY INTO, UH, AN EXEMPTION.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
UH, I HAVE, UH, SINCE THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETING, UH, WE DIDN'T REALLY TAKE THE TIME AFTER WE HEARD ALL OF STABS PRESENTATIONS TO GIVE OUR INPUT ON THE BUDGET, TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET, UH, WORKSHOP THAT WE WOULD HAVE AT THE BEGINNING OF JULY.
UH, AND THAT WAS OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP WAS IN MAY.
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UM, AND SO I DID MEET WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND, UM, UH, UH, ANDY FROM THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UH, TO DISCUSS THIS AND MY TOP PRIORITY WAS EXEMPTIONS.AND WE LOOKED AT THE EMAIL THAT, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT PROVIDES, PROVIDED FOR US.
UH, I GAVE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT AND, UM, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PASS THE MIC OVER TO MR. SELLERS TO EXPLAIN THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE TO US ON, UH, GOING DOWN THIS ROUTE OF EXEMPTIONS.
I THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DISCUSS IT AS WE ARE GOING INTO THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS, BECAUSE THAT'S GIVES STAFF AN IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT TO FRAME WITH THOSE EXEMPTIONS.
SO THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO REALLY BE INCORPORATING THAT AND THE PERFECT TIME TO, UH, DIRECT STAFF ON WHICH LEVEL OF EXEMPTION AND WHICH ONES, IF WE WANT TO DO OTHER ONES, UH, TO STAFF AS THEY CRAFT THE BUDGET.
AND SO, UH, MR. SELLERS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INFORMATION, UH, THE ADDITIONAL DATA THAT IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO US AT THE NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP.
SO COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, AN EXEMPTION IS BASICALLY REDUCTION IN, IN PROPERTY TAX AND, YOU KNOW, IN THAT EMAIL THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON REFERRED TO EACH OPTION EACH $5,000 INCREMENT CORRESPONDS TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TAX REVENUE EXEMPTED FROM, FROM, UH, BEING RECEIVED BY THE CITY.
SO TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE, A $5,000 EXEMPTION, UH, IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR EQUAL TO ABOUT $250,000 OF EXEMPTED VALUE FROM THE CITY.
SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING FORWARD IS IN CONTEXT OF AN EXEMPTION WITH THE PROPOSED ROAD BOND, UH, PROPOSALS, WE KNOW WE'LL HAVE, UH, ROUGHLY, UH, WELL, A VERY LARGE NUMBER.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS YET, SO I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE, BUT WE HAVE NINE, NINE VERY LARGE ROAD PROJECTS.
UH, AND OUR ENGINEERS ARE VERY QUICKLY WORKING ON COMING UP WITH NUMBERS, WHICH WILL BE PROPOSED IN JULY, UH, WITH THAT WE WILL NEED TO DO QUITE A BIT OF ANALYSIS ON WHAT THE TAX VALUE EXEMPTED VERSUS, UH, THE CERTAIN RATES REMEMBER THERE IS A, WHAT'S CALLED AN INS AND INTEREST IN SINKING RATE COMPONENT OF THE PROPERTY TAX.
UH, THERE'S ALSO A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION COMPONENT OF THE RATE.
SO IF WE REDUCE, UH, IN THE EXEMPTION, IF WE HAD A $5,000 EXEMPTION THAT COMES OUT OF THE MAINTENANCE OPERATION PORTION, UH, AND SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW BEST TO, UH, CONSIDER EXEMPTIONS AT THE SAME TIME, PROPOSED A VERY LARGE NUMBER FOR ROAD BOND IMPROVEMENTS, UH, WITHOUT HOPEFULLY RAISING THE TAX RATE TOO MUCH.
UH, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE KIND OF AT A, AN OFFSET HERE.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE REDUCE ON ONE SIDE OF THE LEDGER, BUT YET WE, WE ASK ON ANOTHER, UH, FOR THOSE ROAD BONDS.
THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT EQUATION IS WHO IS PAYING WATCH.
THE EXEMPTION OBVIOUSLY IS AGE 65 AND OVER, UH, THE, UH, OKAY.
YOU CAN 65 AND OVER AS AN ADDITIONAL ONE, BUT YOU COULD ALSO DO ONE FOR ALL HOMEOWNERS UP TO 20%.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.
SO THERE'S ALSO A RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL ON, ON WHO PAYS WHAT, AND THEN THE LEVEL OF BURDEN ON, ON, UH, EACH, EACH COMPONENT TYPES.
SO, UH, IT'S ALL GONNA BE BAKED INTO A LARGE ANALYSIS CONSIDERING THE, THE PROPOSED DEBT ISSUANCES THAT, THAT NEED TO OCCUR FOR THE ROAD BONDS.
AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN EXEMPTION, WE, WE JUST ADD THAT TO OUR ANALYSIS AGAIN, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE IT UP ON THE OTHER SIDE, MAYOR PRO TEM SCOTT, JUST REAL QUICK, Y'ALL BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF CITIES GOT BROUGHT UP, UH, BUDA VINO HAS AN EXEMPTION, SAN MARCUS AS WELL.
UH, WHAT IS, DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ON KNOW PUTTING IN HIS BODY OR OF WHAT THEIR TAX RATE HAS IT GONE DOWN THROUGH THE YEARS OR DID IT GO UP? UM, NO.
WELL BELIEVE SAN MARCUS WENT UP TO FUND SOME, SOME BOND PROPOSALS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WENT UP, I WANT TO SAY EIGHT OR 9 CENTS.
IT WAS A, IT WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
UH, NOT TOTALLY SURE ON, IN THE CITY OF BUDO WHAT, WHAT THAT ENDED UP DOING, ALTHOUGH THEIR TAXABLE VALUES DID GO UP.
WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE DONE AS A CITY? LET'S SAY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, UH, WE HAVE STEADILY DECLINED IN OUR TAX RATE.
UH, BUT YET OUR TAXABLE VALUE AS A CITY HAS CONTINUED TO THAT AND UNDERSTAND THE TEXTILE VALUE GOING UP.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER IN MY HEAD, RIGHT.
CONDA FIT FROM 56 CENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 50 CENTS.
UM, I'M KIND OF SEEING THAT, RIGHT.
UH, MAYBE THE CITIES AROUND US DID THE HOMESTEAD BECAUSE THEY HAD RAISED THE RATE UP AND WERE AFRAID TO TEXT PEOPLE OUT.
AND THAT'S KIND OF HAPPENING WITH US WITH
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OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR APPRAISAL VALUES GOING UP REALLY HIGH.SO I I'M JUST, I'M JUST WEIGHING EVERYTHING IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.
SO YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT, BUT YEAH, THERE'S CAUSE WE ARE GETTING AN INFLUX OF DOLLARS BECAUSE OF THE HOME APPRAISAL VALUE.
SO I GUESS THERE COULD BE SOME WIGGLE ROOM AROUND THERE SOMEWHERE.
SO JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
UM, SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WE MAY ADD THIS AS A PROPOSAL WHEN WE ARE DOING THE VOTE, THE BOND VOTE IS THAT WHAT, WHEN W WHEN THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS HOW TO FUND, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PLUS MILLION DOLLARS OF, OF ROAD DEBT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED.
NOW IT CAN BE MADE UP SOME WHAT, IN THE AVAILABILITY OF TAX RATE, UH, BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE CITY HAS GROWN IN VALUE.
UH, AND SO THE TAX RATE, IF, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S WEIRD TO STAY, FOR EXAMPLE, AT, AT THE 50 CENTS, THERE IS ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IN THAT RATE TO PAY OFF DEBT SERVICE FOR THE BOND, BUT WE HAVE TO STILL COME UP WITHOUT ANALYSIS.
UH, OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UM, I THINK THAT, UH, YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK MR. SELLERS IS, IS PRETTY SPOT ON BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, AS IT RELATES TO THE TAX RATE AND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU, IT, IT'S, IT'S EASY TO MAKE, UH, ASSERTIONS IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT ONE SIDE OF THE LEDGER.
AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO INCORPORATE PROPOSALS INTO YOUR ANALYSIS, THAT INCLUDES A POTENTIAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WHILE WE'RE ALSO DECIDING WHAT OUR TAX RATE IS GOING TO BE AND HOW, HOW MUCH DEBT TO FUND IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME, WHICH I THINK IS IT'S GOOD THAT THIS IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WAS PART OF THE SCOPE OF YOUR BUDGET PROCESS OR ANALYSIS.
SO IF YOU WANT IT TO HAPPEN, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT INTO THE SCOPE, SO THAT WHEN WE'RE GETTING READY TO DISCUSS OUR BUDGET AND OUR, AND SET OUR TAX RATE, WE CAN CONSIDER THIS AS ONE OF THE FACTORS.
UH, AND THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THAT WILL ABSOLUTELY PUT INTO TENSION WHAT OUR RATE IS AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR, OUR BOND IS, OR POLICE OFFICERS AND OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT TENSION IS AND MAKES IT HARDER TO MAKE THE DECISION, BUT ALSO GIVES US THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND POTENTIALLY PULL FROM ELSEWHERE.
I MIGHT ADD TO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS RIGHT NOW, I'M LOOKING AT SHADING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF THE REQUESTS THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL RECEIVED.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND PAIR THAT DOWN INTO A BOX, UH, AS WELL AS BALANCED THE NEED FOR FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCES.
NOW LATER ON, ON THE AGENDA, YOU DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR A FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND BOND COUNCIL.
UH, WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL LOOKING FOR A FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT SPECIALIZES IN THE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE OVERALL SCOPE IS REALLY LOOKING DEEP INTO THE ANALYSIS OF THE TAX RATE, UH, VERSUS EXEMPTIONS VERSUS THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, TO INCORPORATE A POSSIBLE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INTO THEIR ANALYSIS, AS IT RELATES TO SETTING OF THE TAX RATE, UH, CALLING FOR BOND AND SETTING OF THE BUDGET.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER FLOW SCALE.
SO TWO THINGS I WANT TO ADDRESS ARE ONE I DO WANT DO NOT WANT TO INCENTIVIZE OR USE A HOMESTEAD TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR THE BOND.
THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES, AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE SAME BALLOT.
SO THE TAX RATE USUALLY GOES DOWN TO KEEP THE CITY FROM HAVING TO TAKE THE TAX RATE TO THE VOTERS.
SO WHAT IS NOT BEING DISCLOSED IS ONCE THE TAX, ONCE OUR VALUES GO TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, THE CITY IS ONLY ALLOWED TO TAX IT AT A CERTAIN RATE BEFORE IT GOES TO, UH, BEFORE THE VOTE, THE VOTERS HAVE TO SAY, YES, WE WILL ALLOW THIS RATE TO HAPPEN.
IS THAT INCORRECT? WE'RE CAPPED AT WHAT WEEK A CITY IS CAPPED AT WHAT THEY CAN TAKE FROM THE HEAD VALOREM TAXES, THE HOMESTEAD, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TAKES ONLY PEOPLE WHO OWN AND DWELL IN THEIR HOME AND GIVES THEM A SPECIFIC BREAK.
WHEREAS IF YOU RENT A HOME, YOUR TAXES WOULD GO UP BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO BRENDAN, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THE TAX RATE.
SO THE REASON WHY THE CITY WOULD ROLL BACK A TAX RATE IS TO KEEP FROM TAKING THAT RATE AND GOING OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WHICH THE VOTERS WOULD THEN HAVE TO VOTE ON.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EXCEEDING THE ROLLBACK RATE, CORRECT? YEAH.
THAT'S WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION EVERY SO IF NOT, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE DIDN'T ROLL BACK THAT RATE, THEN IT WOULD EXCEED THE AMOUNT AND THEN THE VOTERS WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON IF WE WANT TO KEEP THAT RATE OR NOT.
WELL, THIS WOULD BE GREAT ANALYSIS FOR THE STAFF TO PUT, PUT TOGETHER.
IT'S KIND OF FACTUAL INFORMATION.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE
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TO THIS.IT'S NOT JUST, OH, THE CITY IS ROLLING BACK THE RATE.
IT'S WHY IS THE CITY WILLING BACK THE RATE? IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE NICE IS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF WE TOOK IT TO THE VOTERS, IF THEY WOULD AGREE ON THAT.
UM, AND IT REALLY BOTHERS ME TO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT THIS, PUTTING IT ON THE BOND IS ABOUT IS LIKE, NOT ROLLING BACK THAT RATE.
IF WE REALIZE THAT NOW WE GO OVER THAT AMOUNT AND PLACING THAT ON THE BOND.
OTHERWISE, WHAT INFORMATION DO WE PUT ON THAT BOND? WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR IN THAT BOND FOR A HOMESTEAD EXCEPTION? I'M SORRY.
SO MY QUESTION IS IF WE PUT A BOND, IF WE PUT ON THE BOND WITH THE RHODES, A BOND OR A VOTE OF SOME SORT FOR THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHAT WOULD THAT LANGUAGE LOOK LIKE? YEAH.
WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE CAN, BY VOTER COUNCIL GIVE, AUTHORIZE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
THAT IS, THAT'S JUST, I JUST WANT TO HOPE THAT'S WHAT MY HOPE IS.
SO WHEN I WAS WRITING STUFF, I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL, THEY SAID, WE NEED A BALANCED THE BOND ALONG WITH THE RAPE, BUT REALLY IT'S THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT EVEN IF WE WERE, AND THEN THE VOTERS WILL HAVE TO APPROVE POTENTIALLY A TAX INCREASE WHEN WE PROPOSE THE BOND.
SO IF WE ADD THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION RIGHT NOW, IT DECREASES THE REVENUES, WHICH INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD THAT WE TAKE A, OF A BOND TO THE PEOPLE WITH A PROPOSED TAX INCREASE, WHICH THEN LOWERS THE CHANCES OF THE BOND PASSING AND LOWERS THE PROBABILITY OF US BEING ABLE TO FUND THESE ROAD PROJECTS.
SO THAT'S THE ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED TO DO AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS, THAT WE JUST HAVE ALL THE FACTS, THIS ISN'T A FAILURE TO DISCLOSE.
THIS IS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS AS WE MAKE THAT DECISION, BUT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING, I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK STAFF IS GOING TO BRING FORWARD A REQUEST TO TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL MEASURE TO THE VOTERS IN ORDER TO, IF THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TAX RATE, WHERE THE HOMESTEAD.
THEN I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
AND I, AND I WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT CAUSE I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER RESULT MADE MENTION OF OR RATE GOING DOWN, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING AND I WANTED OTHER PEOPLE IN THE DIOCESE TO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING WHY WE DECREASE THAT, THAT RATE, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BE NICE.
WELL, THE RATE GOES DOWN EVERY YEAR.
WE'VE GONE UP A PERCENTAGE FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW, SCOTT? UM, IT WAS, IT WAS 58 CENTS PER HUNDRED IN ASSESSED.
SO THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS IS RATE.
I WAS JUST ONE, JUST LETTING THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE DOWN TO THE CITY A LITTLE BIT WHILE OTHER CITIES AROUND US, THE COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS GONE UP AND MAYBE THEY'VE GONE UP OR ARE WE JUST SAYING THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT GOING UP, WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY TAX AND YOU GET AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND YOU SEE THAT THEY'VE GONE UP.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING AT.
THEY, AND THAT'S WHY, I MEAN, SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE REACHED OUT LIKE SAN MARCUS AND BUDA HAVE TRIED TO DO WHAT THEY CAN FOR THE RESIDENTS WHILE EVERYTHING'S GOING UP.
THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THE HOMESTEAD TO TRY TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT BURDEN.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO HERE AS A CITY AS WELL.
I WAS JUST SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE THEIR CITIES WERE GOING UP, WE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND NOW AN ADDED, YOU KNOW, A HOMESTEAD WOULD ACTUALLY HELP ALLEVIATE THAT BURDEN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.
UH, DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[29. (First Reading) An ordinance granting to Universal Natural Gas, LLC (d/b/a Universal Natural Gas, Inc.) and its successors and assigns, for a period of ten (10) years from the effective date of this ordinance, a non-exclusive franchise and right to enter the public ways to install, operate and maintain a distribution system within, along, across, over and under the public ways of the city of Kyle, Texas for the transportation, distribution and/or sale of gas to customers and the public in the city; defining the words and phrases therein; providing for assignment, sale or lease of the franchise; providing for use and repair of the public ways; providing for regulation of service; establishing depth of pipelines; establishing rights and duties in the movement and alteration of pipelines; providing for indemnification of the city of Kyle; providing for inspection of grantee’s records; requiring grantee to pay a franchise fee; providing for conditions of the franchise; providing for construction of this ordinance upon the invalidity of any part thereof; providing for acceptance of this franchise by grantee and both an effective and an operative date thereof; repealing all other ordinances directly in conflict herewith; providing for severability; providing for publication and prescribing an effective date. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Assistant City Manager
I'M NOT READING THIS ALL, UH, FIRST READING ORDINANCE GRANTED TO UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS LLC AND ITS SUCCESSORS ARE SIGNS FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS FROM THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE NON-EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE AND RIGHT TO ENTER THE PUBLIC WAYS TO INSTALL, OPERATE IN MAY, UH, AND MAINTAIN A DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, ET CETERA.
MAYOR COUNCIL, JERRY HENDRICKS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
FOR THE RECORD BEFORE YOU IS A PRETTY MUCH A STANDARD NATURAL GAS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS THAT PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF THE CITY.
IT PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF THE NATURAL GAS COMPANY.
IT HAS BEEN RE REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF, CITY LEGAL AND THE STAFF AND LEGAL OF THE COMPANY, UH, FOR THE MANDATE OR MAXIMUM 10 YEARS AT THE CHARTER ALLOWS FOR A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AND CALLS FOR 5% FRANCHISE FEE TO BE PAID FOR THE CITY.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE RICHARD BARD FROM THE COMPANY HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.
BESIDE HIM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HENDRIX OR, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT CUSTOMER FOR SCALE? THANK YOU.
UM, I GUESS, UM, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.
LIKE I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS, CAUSE I'VE TRIED TO READ IT AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WENT, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS PUT SOME KIND OF GAS LINE IN, RIGHT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE A PROVIDER OF NATURAL GAS TO CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY.
THE MAP OF THOSE AREAS WAS IN THE BACKUP.
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HAVE THAT.SO IS THAT GOING TO BE LIKE A NON-COMPETE? CAN SOMEBODY ELSE PROVIDE GAS IN THAT AREA? NO.
UM, HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT? HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS? IF THERE'S ONLY ONE, I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, OKAY.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO OTHER COMPANIES PROVIDING NATURAL GAS AND KYLE THAT'S CENTERPOINT GAS AND TEXAS GAS.
THERE'S ALSO AN ANOTHER COMPANY THAT HAS A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY PROVIDING GAS.
SO WE WILL GO FROM THREE TO ONE.
NO, WE'LL GO FROM THREE TO FOUR.
I WAS AFRAID WE WERE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO USE THIS ONE, BUT IF NOW, IF THIS INCREASES IT'S A FOUR.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, TO CREATE A LINE AND BURY IT.
AND THEY'LL DO THAT THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS IT GOES RIGHT BY THE MEDICAL CENTER.
AND DO, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF LIKE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS? DID WE GET ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK FROM THEM? WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT? CAN I CHIME IN REAL QUICK? SO YOU'RE THINKING BIG GAS LINE DOES THIS WALL OR A GAS LINE.
THEY RUN THROUGHOUT ALL THE CITIES.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES THROUGH AND THEN IT GOES TO DECOMPRESSION IN SMALLER AREAS, RIGHT? SO THIS ISN'T A BIG, LIKE A BIG KINDER MORGAN TYPE, UH, GAS LINE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A SMALL GAS LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH ALL CITIES.
SO IT'S NOTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO REALLY FEAR.
NOW, IF A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HITS IT, THEN YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A MESS AND YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN CUT OFF QUICK.
YOU JUST HOPE NOBODY GETS HURT, BUT NOTHING REALLY, THESE WILL BE LATE IN OUR PUBLIC WRITEAWAYS AFTER REVIEW BY OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE PIPELINES ARE GOING TO GO FROM 16 TO 30 INCHES IN BETWEEN.
LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME ARE 16, SOME ARE 20 AND THEN SOME ARE 30 MR. BARK.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING UP THIS AGENDA.
UM, MY NAME NAME'S RICHARD BARD WITH, UH, UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS, VICE PRESIDENT OF ENGINEERING FOR THE COMPANY FOR THE RECORD.
UM, SO THESE ARE DISTRIBUTION LINES.
UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, UM, ROUGHLY RANGING IN SIZE FROM TWO INCHES TO EIGHT INCH IN DIAMETER RUN AT DISTRIBUTION PRESSURE.
AS YOU MENTIONED, NOT NO HIGH PRESSURE GAS.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM, WHATEVER THIS IS A 30 MINUTE.
SORRY, I DON'T HAVE MY AGENDA RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, MOTION BY CUSTOMER FLOORS, KALE SECOND BY CUSTOMER TOBY TYLER THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? UM, DO YOU MIND EXPLAINING TO ME IF THIS IS GOING TO BE, UM, NATURAL GAS THAT IS GOING TO BE COMPETING WITH ANY OF THE ONES THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? IS IT GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL OR NOT FOR PUBLIC USE? UH, IT WILL BE INSTALLED IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE MAP.
TYPICALLY THE NATURAL GAS COMPANIES DON'T COMPETE WITH EACH OTHER IN SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, COUNSEL.
JUST A REMINDER THAT TO TRY TO REQUIRES TWO RATINGS OF FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
SO THIS WILL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE NEXT MEETING.
[30.
Consideration and possible action on an Ordinance of the City of Kyle Making a Finding of Special Benefit to the Property in the Kyle 57 Public Improvement District; Providing for the Method of Assessment of Special Assessments Against Property in the District; Approving an Assessment Roll for the District; Levying Assessments Against Property within the District; Providing for Payment of the Assessments; Providing for Penalties and Interest on Delinquent Assessments; Establishing a Lien on Property within the District; Approving a Service and Assessment Plan; Approving Landowner Agreements; Providing for Related Matters in Accordance with Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code; Providing an Effective Date; and Providing for Severability. ~ Jon Snyder, P3Works, LLC, City's PID Administrator
- Public Hearing
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 30 CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE MAKING A FINDING OF A SPECIAL BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY OF, UH, IN THE COMEDY SEVEN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UH, DECIDING HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, JOHN SNYDER WITH P THREE WORKS, THE CITY'S PIT ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, THIS IS THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.
IT'S REALLY JUST AN UPDATE TO THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU, UH, EITHER LAST MEETING OR THE MEETING BEFORE THE ONLY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN UPDATED ARE THE, THE NUMBERS AND TABLES.
AND THEY'RE JUST UPDATED TO REFLECT THE PRICING ON THE BONDS THAT, UH, THAT OCCURRED EARLIER.
LET'S ADAM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S NOW CLOSED MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOVE BY THE MAYOR.
SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FLORES, KELLY APPROVED AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 30.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
[31.
Consideration and possible action on an Ordinance Authorizing the Issuance of the City of Kyle, Texas Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2022 (Kyle 57 Public Improvement District); Approving and Authorizing an Indenture of Trust, a Bond Purchase Agreement, a Limited Offering Memorandum, a Continuing Disclosure Agreement, and Other Agreements and Documents in Connection Therewith; Making Findings with Respect to the Issuance of Such Bonds; Providing an Effective Date. ~ Jon Snyder, P3Works, LLC, City's PID Administrator
- Public Hearing
CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS, SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2022 FOR THE KYLE 57 PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
UH, THIS ITEM ALSO HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, SO FMS BONDS, BUT IN THE MARKET THIS MORNING AND PRICED THE BONDS, THEY CAME BACK VERY FAVORABLY.
IT WAS AN AVERAGE COUPON OF ABOUT 4.95%, WHICH IS, UM,
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IN TODAY'S MARKET.THAT WAS, THAT WAS BETTER THAN EXPECTED.
UH, SO THERE WAS, UH, ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE FOR THE PROJECT FUND TO, UH, TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS, BUT OVERALL SUCCESSFUL PRICING AND A POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE INVESTORS.
THIS DECIDE I'M ALSO HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PARSLEY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
[32.
Consider and possible action to approve an Infrastructure and Property Conveyance Agreement, a Property Conveyance Escrow Agreement, the Transportation Improvement Design, and Permitting and Construction Agreement in the Brick and Mortar District by and between Plum Creek Development Partners, LTD., Mountain Plum, LTD., and the City of Kyle, Texas, and the First and Second Amendments to Letter Agreement confirming Allocation of Land to Satisfy Land Dedication of Plum Creek Land to the City of Kyle, Texas. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager
]UP AGENDA ITEM 30 TO CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROPERTY CONVEYANCE AGREEMENT, PROPERTY CONVEYANCE, ESCROW AGREEMENT, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT, DESIGN, AND PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT IN THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT BUYING BETWEEN PLUM CREEK DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, LTD MOUNTAIN PLUM LTD, AND THE CITY OF CAL TEXAS, UH, IN FIRST AND SECOND AMENDMENTS TO LETTER AGREEMENT CONFIRMING ALLOCATION OF LAND TO SATISFY LAND DEDICATION OF PLUM CREEK LAND TO THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, MR. SELLER.THAT'S A MOUTHFUL AND THE AGREEMENTS A LOT MORE, UH, COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL ENTERS BOARD FOR THE LAST PROBABLY YEAR.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON A DISAGREEMENT AND WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING IT FORWARD IN FINAL FORMAT.
DISAGREEMENT RESOLVES MULTIPLE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN OUTSTANDING FROM BOTH THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE, THE UNDERLYING LANDOWNER.
UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS I WILL JUST BRIEFLY MENTION AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT.
SO THE TERS BOARD AND COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT ISSUING AN $8 MILLION, UH, BOND FOR ROADWAYS WITHIN THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT.
AND, UH, THIS AGREEMENT WILL ENSURE THAT THOSE BONDS OR THE ROAD RIGHT AWAY FIRST WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
UH, THOSE ROADS WILL THEN BE, UH, DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT.
UH, SO AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, THE UNDERLYING LANDOWNER WILL DEDICATE THAT RIGHT OF WAY TO THE CITY.
THE CITY WOULD AUTHORIZE THE BONDS, UH, THEN, UH, I'LL CALL IT PLUM CREEK FOR CONVENIENCE.
THEY WOULD DELIVER SEVERAL PARCELS TO THE CITY.
UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN PARCELS, A RESTAURANT PARCEL, UH, ADJACENT TO THE HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK, A A 11 ACRE PLUS OR MINUS SOCCER, UH, PARCEL THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING 22 ACRES SOCCER PERSONAL, UH, THAT IS AT THE NORTHERN END OF CROMWELL.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THERE IS A CLASS, A OFFICE PARCEL, ROUGHLY 1.75 ACRES, I BELIEVE, UH, THAT IS, UH, IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE LAVERDE PARK.
UH, THERE IS ADDITIONAL LAND FOR A HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER PARCEL, UH, THAT IS, UH, GOING TO BE IN A LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED ALONG CROMWELL.
UH, FINALLY THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MENTIONED IMPACT FEES BEFORE.
UH, THERE WERE IMPACT FEE CREDITS DUE TO THE DEVELOPER, UH, FROM YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
UH, THIS AGREEMENT RESOLVES ABOUT, UH, $1.9 MILLION OF IMPACT FEE CREDITS THAT WERE DUE FROM THE CITY BACK TO THE DEVELOPER.
SO THIS, UH, AGREEMENT ALSO W UH, BASICALLY ABSOLVES THE CITY OF THAT FINAL PAYMENT.
SO, UH, THOSE ARE THE KEY DEAL POINTS OF THIS AGREEMENT.
AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING IT FORWARD.
AND, UH, WITH, WITH ALL THE LAND CONVEYANCES, WE CAN NOW START MOVING FORWARD ON DESIGN FOR SPORTS PLEX, UH, IN DIFFERENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEALS AND AS WELL AS THE ROADS.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU, MR. SELLERS, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, CUSTOMER FORCE COUNT? THANK YOU.
8 MILLION IS GOING TO GO TO ROADS, CORRECT THAT THE, THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS SUPPOSED TO PAY, BUT THE CITY IS GOING TO PAY IT INSTEAD OR BOND OUT FOR IT.
SO ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER WOULD PAY AND THEN THE CITY WOULD HAVE ALSO BEEN, UH, DO THOSE IMPACT FEES AS WELL AS NOT HAVE THE ADDITIONAL LAND.
SO WE TOOK THE EQUIVALENT VALUE OF THE LAND AND THEN OFFSET IT WITH, UH, THE COST OF THE ROADWAYS.
SO WHEN DID THE TERSE BOARD MEET TO DECIDE THAT WHEN WAS THE LAST MEETING? UH, A YEAR AGO, I WANNA SAY, YEAH, THIS ITEM WILL COME BACK BEFORE THE TERM WORLD FOR RATIFICATION DOLLAR BOND.
WELL, YES, THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE FORTHCOMING.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME WAS CORRECT.
THIS BASICALLY IS THE TRIGGER TO CALL A TERSE BOARD MEETING TO HAVE THEM COME BACK AND START THE PROCESS.
SO THIS, THIS BOND IS FOR WHO IS GOING TO BE FOR THE BRICK AND MORTAR.
SO ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO OWN THESE ROADS.
UM, AND YEAH, IT WILL BE NOT ONLY THE ROAD, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE
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THAT GOES WITH BUILDING.SO WHY ARE WE SPENDING $8 MILLION ON AN AREA THAT'S NEWLY DEVELOPED, BUT WE DON'T DO THE SAME FOR THE REST OF THE CITY.
UH, WE'RE ABOUT TO SPEND $200 MILLION FIRST.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE HAVE $8 MILLION ON HERE.
THAT'S GOING TO, THAT COULD GO A LONG WAY TO PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY BEEN HERE AND NOT TO NEW DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT FOR ME IS REALLY CONCERNING.
WELL TO, TO CLARIFY THE $8 MILLION IS NOT GOING TO THE DEVELOPER.
THEY $8 MILLION IS A TRADE FOR $8 MILLION IN VALUE THAT COMES BACK TO THE CITY.
SO I'VE NEVER SEEN AN AGREEMENT WHERE WE ISSUED, UM, UM, UH, FINANCIAL RESOURCES IN, UH, TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND RECEIVED AND COMPENSATION.
IN ADDITION TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE EQUAL AMOUNT OF, UH, LAND.
UH, THIS IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE VISIONING WORKSHOP THAT WE WENT OUT AND, UM, UM, IN FRISCO AND THE, THE, UH, THE NAME OF THE GAME WAS ACQUIRE PROPERTY.
UH, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY SO THAT WE CAN THEN IN TURN, UH, USE THAT PROPERTY TO INCENTIVIZE, UM, YOU KNOW, WORLD-CLASS PRODUCTS AND AMENITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY, SUCH AS A REGIONAL SPORTS PLEX, VERTICAL CLASS, A HOTEL AND CONVENTION, VERTICAL CLASS, THE OFFICE HOTEL, AND CONVENTION CENTER, UH, AND RESTAURANT PARCELS.
SO THERE'S ROUGHLY 15 ACRES THAT THE CITY WILL BE RECEIVING THIS PLUS THE OFFSET OF ABOUT 2 MILLION OF CREDITS.
DO MARY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 32 SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER BRADSHAW.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES 6 2, 1 NEXT STEP AGENDA
[33. Consider and possible action on a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas accepting a Petition for Creation of the Porter Country Public Improvement District; Setting a public hearing under Sec. 372.009 of the Texas Local Government Code on the advisability of the creation of the Porter Country Public Improvement District within the City of Kyle, Texas; and Authorizing the issuance of Notice by the City Secretary of Kyle, Texas regarding the public hearing. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]
ITEM 33, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, ACCEPTING A PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF PORT, UH, COUNTRY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AMBER LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, THIS YOU'VE SEEN MANY RESOLUTIONS LIKE THESE BEFORE.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING, UH, THE PID PETITION FOR, UH, PORTER COUNTRY AND CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM FOR YOU AT THIS TIME.
IS THERE A, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MAY PROTON MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR FLORES, KALE THAT WE APPROVED AND I'M 33.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM 34, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ITEM 30 AND 31, UH, BEING FINALLY PASSED? THEY'RE NOT LISTED AS FIRST READING.
UH, THAT'S HOW WE RECEIVED IT FROM BICKERSTAFF, BUT THEY ARE, UH, ITEMS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE TO COME BACK.
AND SO, UH, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO FUNNILY PASSING THESE ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, THEY ARE FINALLY PASSED, UH, AGENDA ITEM,
[34. Consider and possible action to retain services of Mark McCliney from SAMCO Capital as the city's financial advisor. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 34, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO RETAIN THE SERVICES OF MARK MCLEANY, UH, FROM SAMCO CAPITAL AS THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR.MR. SELLERS MAY I'M MAY SPEAK TO 34 AND 35 TOGETHER IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO, UH, COUNSEL RECENTLY SENT OUT AN EMAIL ABOUT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.
WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, JUST EVEN TONIGHT WITH, BUT SCOTT, LET ME GO AHEAD AND PULL UP ITEM 35.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THEM, BOTH JUST A LITTLE, IT CAN BE CAREFUL.
I'M NOT READING THIS ALL OUT, BUT THIS IS
[35. Consideration and approval of a resolution approving an engagement agreement for Bond Counsel Legal Services with Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP; and other matters in connection therewith
A. The City Council of the City intends to engage Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP to provide the City with bond counsel legal services pertaining to the City’s issuance of public securities, including advising the City on its “official statement” to potential investors pursuant to Federal securities law and issuing a legal opinion as to the same.
B. Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP has consistently demonstrated its competence, qualifications, and experience as an industry leader in public finance matters through the provision of bond counsel legal services, the representation of local governments on federal income tax matters, the publication of disclosure policies and the representation of state agencies and political subdivisions within the State of Texas on public finance matters.
C. Accessing the public markets through the issuance of public securities and providing an “official statement” of the City to potential investors is governed by Federal securities law requires the advice of legal advisors that specialize in public finance matters and are well versed in Federal securities law.
D. Engaging an attorney in private practice who specializes in public finance matters and is well versed in all aspects of public finance matters (including state law, federal income tax law and federal securities law) pursuant to an hourly fee arrangement would likely result in higher fees paid by the City and such fees incurred would be payable by the City through amounts in the City’s General Fund, whether or not the public securities is issued.
E. Fees for professional services in public finance matters, including bond counsel services, have traditionally been paid pursuant to a contingent fee contract, where such fees become payable only upon the successful issuance of the public securities and out of the public securities proceeds. Entering into a contract for bond counsel legal services with Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP (a firm that specializes in public finance matters and is well versed in Federal tax and securities law) payment of which is contingent on the City’s successful issuance of public securities and payable out of public securities proceeds, provides the City a superior level of bond counsel legal services and fee(s) payable under the contract is reasonable in the public finance market and would likely be less than if such services were conducted pursuant to an hourly rate contract with an attorney specializing in public finance matters. This high level of bond counsel legal services pursuant to a contingent fee contract is in the best interest of the residents of the City. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager]
I JUST SAID, UH, SO WE HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT OF, OF RESEARCH INTO FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND BOND COUNSEL IN THE AREA, UH, TALKED TO SEVERAL INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE BEEN HELPING US AND WILL CONTINUE TO HELP US THROUGH OUR PIDS TOURS IS, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, ET CETERA, BUT ALL OF OUR SPECIAL FINANCING, WE HAVE A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBT, UH, THAT IS GOING TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD THROUGH THESE ROAD BONDS.
UH, NOW MORE THAN EVER THE NEED FOR, UH, VERY DETAILED, COMPLEX AND ACCURATE FINANCIAL INFORMATION ANALYSIS, UH, IS WARRANTED FOR OUR CITY.
UH, SO WITH THAT, I AM PROPOSING THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER, UH, SAMCO CAPITAL AS OUR NEW FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT AS THE CITY'S BOND COUNCIL.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SELLERS? UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE AS WELL.
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QUESTIONS FOR THEM, CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE.IS HIS PEREZ AVAILABLE? OH, HE'S NOT HERE TO SEE ME.
UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY OUR FINANCIAL DIRECTOR IS NOT HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? SO HE'S FINANCES NOW IN THAT CASE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, POSTPONE AGENDA ITEM 34 AND 35 OR 34 AND 35 UNTIL WE CAN SPEAK WITH OUR S UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR.
MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 34.
I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM SEPARATELY, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON AGENDA ITEM 34 SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR SECONDED BY COUNSELOR ELLISON.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER PARSLEY? UM, DO YOU MIND EXPLAINING WHY WE ARE CHANGING FINANCIAL ADVISORS? Y WE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IT'S JUST TIME IN THE CITY'S MATURATION, I THINK TO MOVE FORWARD TO MORE COMPLEX ANALYSIS, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL GET ISSUANCES IN THE PAST, ET CETERA, THAT WE HAVE USED A TEAM, A FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND BOND COUNSEL.
AND, UH, IN THIS CASE, THIS, UH, THIS TEAM THAT I AM PUTTING BEFORE YOU HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED VERY HIGHLY, UH, TO COME FORWARD AS A TEAM OF ANALYSIS.
SO, UH, REALLY IT'S, IT'S JUST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH HIGHER LEVEL ANALYSIS.
DID WE INTERVIEW ANY OTHER COMPANIES FOR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, UH, DIDN'T INTERVIEW OTHER COMPANIES PER SE, INTERVIEWED INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS, UH, WHO MADE SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, STRONG, STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS TEAM.
SO I INTERVIEWED THIS TEAM, HAVE WE PAID ANYTHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO COLLECT FROM THE OTHER COMPANY WE WERE USING, UH, WITH THE KYLE 57 PAID TONIGHT? UH, THOSE ARE THE LAST PROJECTS FOR THE LAST TEAM.
AND SO THEY WILL CONTINUE, UH, THERE, THEY WILL BE COMPENSATED FOR THEIR WORK WITH THAT.
SO KIND OF THE TIME FOR A CLEAN BREAK, ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE INTO, UH, THIS ROAD BOND PROJECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, CUSTOMER FOUR SCALE.
UM, SO THE CITY JUST VOTED IN THE LAST MEETING TO GO FORWARD WITH A TRANSACTION.
SO WHY DIDN'T WE, WHY DIDN'T WE BRING IT UP BACK THEN WITH THE TRANSACTION? THERE WAS A, YEAH, THERE WAS, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, THERE WAS ACTION REGARDING THE BOND COUNSEL, I BELIEVE.
AND SO I GUESS I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY WERE WE ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN IF HAS IT IT'S ONLY BEEN THREE WEEKS.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST THREE WEEKS TO CAUSE THIS KIND OF WANT FOR CHANGE.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH TRANSACTION, BUT THIS WAS ACTUALLY A CLEAN BREAK FOR THOSE PROJECTS TO BE SEPARATED THE KIND OF THE OLD PROJECTS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE INCEPTION OF NEW PROJECTS.
UM, SO WHY IS PEREZ NOT HERE? UH, PREVIOUS ASKED IF HE COULD GO HOME THIS EVENING, IT'S WHY DIDN'T PRESS SPONSOR THIS ITEM.
IT'S AN RFP OR AN RFQ REQUIRED? NO, MA'AM, THERE'S A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENTS.
DID ANYBODY SPEAK WITH OUR CURRENT REPRESENTATION? I DID.
AND WHAT REASON FOR OBTAINING OTHER SERVICES? DID YOU GIVE THEM? UH, WELL, I GAVE THEM A COUPLE OF THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
I'VE BEEN MOST RECENTLY ON MY MIND, AS FAR AS, UH, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN SERVED WITH ADEQUATE REPRESENTATION AND HOW COME THIS WASN'T BROUGHT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
COUNSEL HAD A TERS WORKSHOP AT THIS, UH, AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH REALLY BROUGHT FORWARD THE NEED FOR, UH, REPRESENTATION.
THAT WAS MUCH MORE PREPARED WITH, UH, THE STATUTE.
AND IN THAT MEETING, I HEARD MAYOR MITCHELL SPEAK MUCH LONGER THAN I HEARD THE ATTORNEY SPEAK.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTERRUPT AND CALL THE QUESTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? UH, IS THERE A SECOND ON CALLING THE QUESTION SECOND? ALL RIGHT.
THE QUESTION IS CALLED A, THAT IS A NON DEBATABLE MOTION.
IT CALLS FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
UH, THE ROLL CALL VOTE IS NOT ON THE ITEM.
IT IS TO CEASE DEBATE AND THEN CALL
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FOR A VOTE ON THE ITEM MITCHELL, RIGHT? ALISON FLORES, KALE BRADSHAW, TIBIAS PARSLEY RIZZO.UH, THE ITEM BEFORE US IS CALLED ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, HANG ON, LET ME READ IT OUT CORRECTLY.
ON AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 35, WE HAVE TO, I, THIS 34 WAS THE MOTION THAT WAS, UH, BROUGHT FORWARD.
UH, WE BROUGHT THEM BOTH FORWARD TOGETHER FOR DISCUSSION.
THAT ACTION TOOK PLACE FOR 34 35.
I WAS INFORMED EARLIER REQUIRES SPECIFIC LANGUAGE.
I MOVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE AND ENGAGEMENT AGREEMENT FOR BOND COUNSEL LEGAL SERVICES WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT, U S L L P IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.
MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 35? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, I'M SORRY.
UM, SO I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE MY, MY THOUGHTS ON THIS AND IT MIGHT COVER THE PREVIOUS ITEM HERE AS WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT, UH, FROM MY POSITION, I'LL JUST SPEAK FROM MY POSITION.
UM, I'M ABOUT GETTING RESULTS ABOUT GETTING QUALITY ANALYSIS IN ORDER TO MAKE STRONG DECISIONS ON THIS BOARD.
UM, AND WE LEAN HEAVILY ON OUR ONE STAFF MEMBER, UH, MR. SELLERS TO PROVIDE US WITH RESULTS AND QUALITY ANALYSIS AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS BOARD.
AND IF OUR CITY MANAGER DOES NOT FEEL LIKE THAT, THERE'S ANYBODY ON HIS STAFF PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACTED THAT IS NOT MEETING THE EXPECTATION OF THE GOLD STANDARD THAT WE EXPECT HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE, THE AMOUNT OF ANALYSIS WE EXPECT HERE, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AS WELL AS A PRESENCE, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL SINCE 2017.
I KNEW BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS.
UH, SO THIS IS NOT, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU IT WASN'T AN EASY DECISION FOR ME.
I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW DIFFICULT A DECISION THIS WAS FOR MR. SELLERS WHEN WE'VE WORKED WITH THESE FOLKS FOR A LONG TIME NOW, BUT FOR HIM TO MAKE A PROFESSIONAL DECISION TO CHANGE COURSE AND GO WITH A DIFFERENT FIRM ON THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
I THINK IT SPEAKS TO THE VOLUME OF HE'S TRYING TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OF THIS COUNCIL.
AND SO, UH, IT'S TOUGH AS THAT IS, UH, TO MAKE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CHANGE.
I DO COMMEND YOU FOR MAKING THIS TOUGH DECISION, EVEN IF IT WAS A ULTIMATELY IT'S YOUR DECISION.
AND EVEN IF YOUR STAFF GET DISAGREED WITH YOU, YOU'RE THE ULTIMATE ACCOUNTABILITY TO US.
AND SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS.
AND THAT'S, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE BRING ON THESE NEW FOLKS, I DIDN'T GET TO ASK MR. MCCLENNEY TO STEP UP AND SPEAK, BUT, UH, UH, FROM THE BOND COUNCIL, WE NEED, WE NEED PRESENCE HERE.
AND WHETHER THAT'S AT OUR MEETINGS AND OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS, WHETHER THAT JUST MEANS BEING VIRTUAL AND TURN ON THE CAMERA AND BE THERE FOR US TO ASK QUESTIONS OF YOU IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DECISIONS WE NEED TO MAKE, THAT IS HIGHLY IMPORTANT.
WE NEED ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW YOU BY NAME AND WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE.
AND SO, UM, ONCE AGAIN, I HOPE THERE'S NO HARD FEELINGS WITH THE PREVIOUS FIRMS. I KNOW THAT THERE PROBABLY WILL BE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M HERE AND ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS I CAN TO GET THE MOST PROPER ANALYSIS I CAN AND TO GET THE RESULTS THAT WE EXPECTED, THIS COUNCIL OF THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS STAFF.
AND SO THAT IS HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS DIFFICULT DECISION.
THANK YOU, UH, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
UM, I DO WANT A SECOND WHILE COUNSEL NUMBER ELLISON WAS SAYING I'VE BEEN IN COUNCIL FOR SIX MONTHS, ABOUT SIX MONTHS, AND I HAD NO IDEA WHO OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS WERE.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING, YOU KNOW, A BETTER GROUP TO THE TABLE.
MAYOR, IF I CAN JUST SAY TO, TO ECHO THAT COMMENT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, I'M SURE THEY'RE LISTENING AND I WANT TO TELL CHRIS AND GREG, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FRIENDS OF MINE AND IT WAS NOT EASY.
SO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE HARD DECISIONS AND WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY WORKING TOGETHER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE IN THE COURSE OF BUSINESS.
ANYONE ELSE? UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK THE SUDDEN SWITCH OF SERVICES IS A BAD
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LOOK FOR THE CITY.I THINK IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO WANT TO DO SERVICE, UM, WITH US, I THINK, UH, AS A COUNCIL, WHAT WE SHOULD, WHO WE SHOULD BE LEANING ON, AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL, UH, DIRECTION GOES, SHOULD BE OUR FINANCIAL DIRECTOR.
ANYBODY THAT KNOWS CITY BUSINESS UNDERSTANDS THAT EVEN THOUGH A CITY MANAGER HAS HIS HANDS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, W HE IS NOT A PROFESSIONAL IN ONE.
SO TO TAKE PEREZ OUT OF THIS, I THINK IS, UH, KIND OF NOT DOING JUSTICE TO PEREZ IN ORDER TO ALLOW HIM TO PROVIDE HIS OPINION.
AND SO, AS FAR AS THAT GOES, I'M, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT I DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH HIM.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS ON PURPOSE OR I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, PRESIDENT RETURNED MY CALL BECAUSE HE WAS JUST TOO BUSY.
UM, BUT I I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED AND I'M SAD FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SERVICES THAT WERE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND, UM, I FEEL LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN A LITTLE MORE PROFESSIONAL MANNER.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE, TRYING TO GET BACK TO IT.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP, UH, NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26 DISCUSSION REGARDING POSSIBLE TEXTS, AMENDMENTS AND OR ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO BE CONSIDERED IN SINGLE RESIDENTIAL ZONED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO OUR ONE-ON-ONE OR WHEN TWO OR WENT THREE OR AN A M ONE M TWO M THREE CUSTOMER.
I MAINLY JUST PUT THOSE IN THERE.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO READ THEM.
IT'S NOT AS BAD AS THE ONE I JUST HAD.
SO THERE'S A LOT TO THIS TOPIC AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL ALLOWING ME TO DO THIS A LITTLE LATER IN THE AGENDA BECAUSE I DON'T EXPECT A DECISION TO NECESSARILY BE MADE AT THIS POINT, BUT I AM ASKING FOR SOME BUY-IN FROM THE COUNCIL.
UH, AND, UM, SO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, UH, THERE WAS AN AGENDA ITEM BROUGHT FORWARD ABOUT A CORNERSTONE ROAD IN RED STAGE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MR COLTERMAN CAME AND SPOKE ON THAT AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE SPEEDWAY THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE.
AND I REMEMBER LISTENING TO THAT AND I SAID, WOW, WHERE HAVE I HEARD THAT UMPTEEN MILLION TIMES? I'VE HEARD THAT FROM AMBERWOOD RESIDENTS.
THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE A FUN LITTLE NAME FOR AMBERWOOD LOOP, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER T TO BE AS COULD PROBABLY TELL US WHAT IT'S CALLED IN KENSINGTON TRAILS.
THERE'S SUBDIVISIONS ALL OVER THIS CITY.
WE HAVE SUBDIVISIONS ALL OVER THIS CITY WHERE RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED AND COMPLAINING AND ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES THROUGH THERE AND WHAT MY CONCERN IS AND WATCHING THAT KIND OF PLAY OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TO, I THINK WE GET THE IMPULSE TO TRY AND SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS CAUSE WE EMPATHIZE WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, BUT SOMETIMES THE IMPULSIVE DECISION TO SOLVE THOSE IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST DECISION BASED ON THE DATA AND INFORMATION AND OTHER TOOLS THAT, THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL.
AND SO, UH, I WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
I DID PROVIDE TWO LINKS IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL, UH, ONE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF U S DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AS WELL AS ANOTHER ONE FROM A WEBSITE CALLED
I ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE MY MIND MADE UP ON WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO PLAY INTO THIS, AND I DO WANT TO INCLUDE COUNSEL IN ON THIS.
UH, SO I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ALL WENT THROUGH BOTH OF THOSE WEBSITES AND REVIEWED EVERYTHING, CERTAINLY COMPLETE STREETS, UH, DESIGNING WHAT THEY CALLED A ROAD DIETS, UH, TO MAKE THE ROADS NARROW OTHER DIFFERENT MECHANISMS TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
THERE ARE ALSO THINGS CALLED SPEED CUSHIONS, UH, NOT SPEED BUMPS, UH, BUT SPEED CUSHIONS THAT ARE MORE NARROW THAT A TYPICAL VEHICLES WOULD HAVE TO GO OVER, BUT ARE NARROW ENOUGH THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES DON'T HAVE TO GO OVER, WHICH HAS BEEN A CONCERN IN THE PAST.
AND I'VE SEEN THIS, BUT I NEVER CAN QUITE GET IT.
YOU CAN'T BECAUSE THAT'S THE IDEA, BUT FIRE TRUCKS AND LARGER EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THAT
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IS WHY THOSE THINGS ARE BUILT THAT WAY.AND THERE ARE ONES THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED WHERE THERE'S PIECES AND PARTS TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE MAY BE MAINTENANCE OVER TIME THAT MAKES THAT, THAT MAINTENANCE EXPENSE LESS, UH, RATHER THAN USING A SPEED BUMP, THAT ONE HAS NO BREAK IN THERE.
SO EVERYBODY HAS TO GO OVER IT, INCLUDING THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, IT'S A HIGHER BUMP.
SO YOU KIND OF GET A LITTLE BIT MORE NOISE AS WELL WITH THAT.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO LOOK AT WITH THIS.
AND SO MY PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL TONIGHT IS NOT TO MAKE A RASH DECISION ON ANY NUMBER OF THESE SPEED CALMING INITIATIVES, BUT I'M GOING TO BRING SOMETHING UP.
THE OLD TASK FORCE THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CERTAINLY IF COUNCIL WANTS TO GO ANOTHER WAY AND MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, I'M CERTAINLY UP FOR THE CONVERSATION.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR BUS TO PUT A TASKFORCE TOGETHER WITH ALL THE TASK FORCE POLICY THAT WE CREATED SEVERAL MONTHS BACK WITH THE TIMELINE AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS AND INCLUDE STAFF TO WORK THROUGH AND DISCUSS THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THOSE VARIOUS DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND PERHAPS MOST SPECIFICALLY A RECOMMENDATION TO, FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
SO WITHOUT BEING REALLY LONG-WINDED AND KIND OF GOING MORE INTO THESE WEBSITES AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND WHAT THEY TALK ABOUT, THAT THAT IS THE GIST OF THE SITUATION I'M BRINGING FORWARD.
SO AS WE CAN HAVE NOT ONLY IMPLEMENT NEW THINGS AS WE BRING ON NEW SUBDIVISIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BEING PARTICULAR TO SUBDIVISIONS IS WHERE I WANT TO FOCUS NOW, BUT ALSO SO CREATING GOOD POLICY FOR THE FUTURE, BUT ALSO LOOK AT WAYS THAT PERHAPS WE CAN GO BACK AND EXISTING PLACES TO MAYBE INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE IDEAS AS WELL.
SO THE FLOOR SCOTT, DID SHE HAVE SOMETHING? UH, YEAH.
COUNCIL IS SO, UH, APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE REMEMBER, LISTEN, WE DO HAVE AN INTERNAL TASK FORCE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, THEY FOR YEARS HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON TME, TCD, TRAFFIC WARRANTS, ET CETERA.
UH, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ITEM AND DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE CONTEXT, THEY, THEY DID WANT TO, UH, JUST BE AVAILABLE AND MAYBE SHARE SOME COMMENTS NOW ABOUT THIS ITEM.
SO IT'S HARPER AND LEON HARPER, LEON, JEFF, AND KYLE AND CHIEF TAYLOR.
SO, UH, THE OTHER THREE ARE ONLINE AND THEN, UH, HARPER IS HERE IN THE ROOM, BUT IF ANY OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, MENTION THEIR FEELINGS NOW ABOUT ROAD CONSTRUCTION, IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU ON WELCOME? ALL RIGHT, HARPER, I'M LOOKING AT YOU LIKE LIANA SYRIA, AREA HARPER, LEON, JEFF, AND CHIEF TAYLOR, CHIEF BARNETT, YOUTUBE AND I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARE CLARITY, YOUR PROPOSAL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING OUR SORT OF LIKE OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR HOW ROADS ARE DESIGNED, MOVING FORWARD, LIKE SUBDIVISION ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT 41 POSSIBILITY? CAUSE LIKE THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, WE CHANGED IT FOR ONE, ALL OF THAT TO TRY TO HAVE SORT OF AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC SPEEDS AND EMERGENCE.
SO IT'S KIND OF A SIMILAR THING, BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO, IS THERE, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT IS LIKE SORT OF A POLICY THAT WOULD BE IN EFFECT AT STAFF LEVEL AS SUBDIVISIONS ARE COMING FORWARD, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE RULES.
THAT COULD VERY MUCH BE, UH, ONE PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
UH, HARPER WILDE OR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
UM, SORT OF THE QUESTION THAT YOU WERE ASKING, WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU WANT FROM ME ON I'M SORRY.
I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE I ANSWER YOU CORRECTLY.
UM, SO THE, THE SPEED HUMP DISCUSSION HAS BEEN BROUGHT FOR MANY YEARS.
A MATTER OF FACT, I WENT AND DID SOME RESEARCH ON IT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP A LONG TIME AGO, 2011, IT WENT TO COUNCIL.
I BELIEVE I WENT TO SAN MARCUS AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THEIR SPEED HUMPS.
AND AS, AS MR. ELLISON SAID, THERE'S DIFFERENT SPEED, UH, DETER IT'S OUT THERE, THE SPEED HUMP.
IF WE HAD TO GO TO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST VERSUS A SPEED BUMP, WHICH IS A VERY ABRUPT HIT.
UM, IT'S A SHORT, NARROW KIND OF, UH, TALLER OBSTRUCTION IN THE ROADWAY WHERE THERE'S MORE CHANCE FOR THERE TO BE ISSUES.
IF WE WERE GOING TO GO TO SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE A SPEED HUMP, WHICH IS BASICALLY LIKE A SPEED PILLOW.
IT HAS A VERY GRADUAL SHORT HEIGHT AND A TAPERED OUT, UH, OVER A CERTAIN LENGTH.
AND IT GOES BACK DOWN THE SAME MANNER.
IT'S NOT AS ABRASIVE TO THE TRAFFIC.
UM, SAN MARCUS HAS SEVERAL OF THEM.
WE LOOKED AT SOME DOWN THERE THAT ARE DONE WITH
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ASPHALT.THEY USED TO DO THEM WITH THE RUBBER MAT, BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE, THE ANCHORS THAT THEY PUT DOWN IN THE GROUND WOULD ALWAYS GET WATERED OUT.
I MEAN, IT'S A CONTINUAL MAINTENANCE ISSUE THAT THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THE ASPHALT ONES.
WE ALSO HAD, UH, MR. ART BROUGHT FORTH, YOU KNOW, THE SPEED, A SPEED HUMP POLICY A LONG TIME AGO, BUT THE PROBLEM WAS, I DON'T BELIEVE IT EVER WENT THROUGH COUNCIL AND PAST, UH, COUNCIL.
I WENT BACK LOOKING AT NOTES BECAUSE I HAD TO PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE ALSO.
UH, IT WENT BACK COUNSEL SENT IT BACK TO THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.
MY COMMITTEE, UH, WAS NOT NECESSARILY FOR IT.
UM, BUT DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF NECESSARILY HOA, UH, WERE TO FUND IT AND, UH, BRING IT ABOUT, OR IF PRIVATE OWNERS THERE WAS, I THINK IT WAS 80% OF THE RESIDENTS ON THIS, UH, CERTAIN BLOCK, UH, ALL CAME FORTH AND SAID THAT THEY WANTED IT.
AND THEN THERE WERE CERTAIN CRITERIA.
IT COULDN'T BE IN FRONT OF A DRIVEWAY.
IT COULDN'T BE ACROSS FROM SOMEBODY WHO DID NOT WANT IT.
UH, THERE WERE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GUIDELINE TO WHERE IT COULD BE LOCATED AT NOT AT, NOT NEAR AN INTERSECTION SO FAR FROM AN INTERSECTION, COULDN'T BE ON A CURVE, UH, ANY KIND OF OBSTRUCTIONS THAT WOULD MAKE IT A SAFETY, SAFETY ISSUE.
SO ALL OF THOSE CAME ABOUT A LONG TIME AGO AND THEN THEY WERE DISCUSSED AND IT NEVER KIND OF WENT TO, UH, TO FRUITION.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I RECALL UNLESS SOMEBODY FINDS SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAPPENED IN A REPAIRED IN COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE HISTORY THERE AND BACKGROUND I KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, CHIEF BARNETT AND, UM, CHIEF TAYLOR COULD TALK MORE, BUT I KNOW THAT BACK IN THE DAY, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERNS OVER THE FIRST RESPONDERS, EMERGENCY VEHICLES, UM, AND HOW THEY WOULD BE AFFECTED, UH, IN THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SPEED BUMPS.
UM, HAVING TO GO OVER THOSE REGULARLY.
THERE'S ALSO QUESTIONS OF IF YOUR VEHICLE WERE TO, UH, CONTACT THAT SPEED BUMP AND MAYBE LOSE CONTROL, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF SAFETY OR DANGER DID THAT PUT, PUT PEOPLE IN POSSIBLY.
AND THEN MR. EARP ALSO, UH, MENTIONED ONE WHERE, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS AN ISSUE THAT THEY WEREN'T BRINGING ABOUT.
JAMES, DO YOU RECALL IT WAS THE ISSUE THAT, WHERE THEY WEREN'T USING IT BECAUSE OF THE LIABILITY FACTOR, BASICALLY WHAT IT WAS.
YEAH, NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP ALSO.
UM, SO THERE'S BEEN MANY THINGS ALONG THE WAY.
UH, I DO AGREE THAT THERE'S ISSUES WITH SPEEDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYTHING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY WE GO, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST A SPEED HUMPS OR SPEED PILLOWS VERSUS ANYTHING ELSE.
COUNCILOR ELLISON, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE SPEED PILLOWS, ACTUALLY.
YOU LIKE THOSE? UM, I THINK THEY DO QUITE A BIT.
UM, I HAVE TO DRIVE OVER ONE EVERY DAY IN SOUTH AUSTIN AND IT ACTUALLY DOES SLOW PEOPLE DOWN AT THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AND THEN FURTHER DOWN, THERE'S AN INTERSECTION THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT AND THERE'S ALWAYS WRECKS IN THAT OTHER INTERSECTION.
UH, CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THOSE PILLOWS AND PEOPLE WERE SPEEDING THROUGH THERE.
UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
I THINK, UH, UM, PEOPLE'S DRIVING HABITS HAVE CHANGED.
WE'VE GOT NOW AN INFLUX OF MORE RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY, IN OUR ROADWAYS.
PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING TO COMMUTE AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED AND I THINK WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN THE CITY TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
UH, I JUST FEEL THAT I'VE SEEN AND I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED AND WANTS SOMETHING DONE NOW.
AND, UH, IT IT'S, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE TASK FORCE, UH, BUT REALLY I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN REAL TIME.
IS THIS SOMETHING YOU COULD PUT TO YOUR TEAM COULD BUILD HARPER? YES, SIR.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WHEN WE WENT DOWN TO SAN MARCUS, THEY HAVE WHAT I CALL A COUPON.
IT'S A FRAME, A METAL FRAME THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY THE SIZE OF WHAT IT IS AND THEY GO OUT THERE AND THEY, THEY CUT OUT THAT RECTANGULAR AREA.
THEY LAY THAT FRAME DOWN, THEY FILL IT UP WITH ASPHALT UP TO THE TOP OF THAT FRAME AND THEN THEY TAPER OFF THE EDGES.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITH RELATIVITIES.
UM, I THINK SOME OF THE DETERMINATIONS IS WHERE THEY WOULD BE PLACED IN WHAT ROADS.
UM, WE'VE TALKED LEON AND I ARE STEADILY, UH, LOOKING AT PEOPLE'S SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THERE'S, WHERE WE SEE IT.
MAINLY AS LONG ROADS, LONG ROADS WHERE THERE'S NO KIND OF, UH, STOP SIGNS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH THE SPEEDING.
UH, IT SEEMS LIKE FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW.
SO MY, MY SECOND QUESTION IS TO CHIEF TAYLOR, CHIEF TAYLOR, DO YOU HAVE, UH, A WIDTH OF A SPEED PILLOW THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPLEMENTED? CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE WIDTH OF YOUR TRUCKS.
THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M ASKING YOU.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP.
WE DO HAVE IN OUR, OUR EXIT FIRE DEPARTMENT, ACCESS ROAD GUIDELINES AND THE FIRE CODE, THERE'S ONLY TWO TYPES
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THAT ARE ALLOWED.IT'S THE SPEED LUMPS AND THE A SPEED TABLE IS ON SAMSON WHERE THE GOLF CART CROSSING IS THAT'S A SPEED TABLE.
AND THEN THE, THE LUMPS ARE WHAT COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN ELLISON WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THE ONE WHERE THAT SPLIT AND THE MENTAL, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA WHERE I'M GOING WITH.
UH, I THINK, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IS, UH, THE CITY ADOPT THE SPEED TIP PILLOWS RIGHT NOW, BUT THEN CREATE, UH, A TASK FORCE TO REALLY, UH, IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS THAT ARE NEEDED.
UM, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW.
UM, I WAS KIND OF WHAT I LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN THIS EVENING.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? MAYBE MARY COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
UH, I AGREE WITH HARPER AND IT, IT, WE DON'T WANT TO DO ASPHALT SPEED TABLES OR WHATEVER THAT ARE NOT MADE AN ASPHALT UP.
THE I'VE SEEN THE OTHERS IN ACTION AND THEY DO COME APART.
SO THAT'S A DEFINITE, UH, I'M SUPPORTING ON USING MAT OF ASPHALT.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK THIS TASKFORCE, IF IT'S CREATED SET SPECIFIC CRITERIA, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GET MOST OF THE REQUESTS AND COMPLAINTS AND THE SUGGESTIONS ON WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THESE THINGS.
SO I NEED DEFINITE CRITERIA TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THOSE AND SAY, YES, IT DOES MEET OR NO, IT DOESN'T MEET.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH THE MULTI-WAY STOP SIGNS.
THEY LOOK THAT WE LOOK AT TYPICALLY IF YOU HAVE FIVE ACCIDENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THAT PREDICTOR INTERSECTION, THAT PRETTY WELL JUSTIFIES THE INSTALLATION OF A MULTI-WAY STOP.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, THEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC COUNTS.
IF YOU DON'T LOOK AT THAT, THEN YOU LOOK AT BLIND CORNERS AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE LAST WARRANT THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE ENGINEER CAN MAKE THE DECISION, SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK WE NEED ONE HERE.
SO THAT LEAVES IT UP TO THE ENGINEER, BUT THAT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON ME TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO I NEED DEFINITE CRITERIA IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY I WANT IT OFFER IT.
W W WELL, PERHAPS THE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE CURRENT TASK FORCE PLUS THREE OF THIS BODY WOULD BE JUST NEARLY PERFECT FOR BRINGING BACK THAT EXACT PROPOSAL THAT TAKE YOUR WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH.
I WENT TO EAST STAFFS CAUSE I CAN HEAR BOTH OF YOU AND HARPER AND TALKING ABOUT I'M SURE CHIEF'S ABOUT TO COME ON IN HERE AND SAY THE SAME THING.
PART OF THE TASK FORCE POLICY IS HAVING STAFF LIAISONS SO THAT YOU ALL WERE GOING TO BE LOOPED INTO THIS, TO GIVE YOUR OPINION, IN ORDER TO, TO COUNSEL THE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE ANYWAY, TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, I'VE ALREADY HAD A SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL AS WELL.
UH, AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL PROVIDING THE INPUT PUBLICLY AND FOR ALL OF COUNCIL TO HEAR TONIGHT, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER PART OF THE POLICY.
WHEN WE CREATE A TASK FORCE IS HAVING STAFF LIAISON.
THAT WOULD BE RELATIVE TO WHATEVER TOPIC IT IS.
AND I COULDN'T IMAGINE THAT TASK FORCE BEING FORMED WITHOUT AT LEAST YOU TWO GENTLEMEN AND PROBABLY MAYBE BEEN OUR CHIEF AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
I, I DID TALK TO HAYES COUNTY.
THEY, THEY DO INSTALL A SPEED PILLOWS OR SPEED CONTROL DEVICES.
THEY HAVE A POLICY THAT I WAS, I HAVE A COPY OF THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.
SO THEY DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF CRITERIA IN THAT MAYBE YOU WOULDN'T HURT AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS TO HAVE ONE OF THEM COME FROM THE COUNTY AND JUST KIND OF TELL US THE GOOD, THE BAD AND UGLY OF, OF DOING THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
ANY OBJECTION FROM THE, THE CHIEF TAYLOR OR LEON OR HARPER, CHIEF BARNETT, IF YOU'RE ON IT TO SERVING ON THE TASK FORCE TO HELP BRING THIS POLICY BACK TO US WITH COUNSEL, I CAN SERVE NO PROBLEM, CHIEF.
UM, WELL I WOULD ASSUME THE TWO OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, UH, IF THAT'S OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ON THE COUNCIL WHO'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE? CASPER TOBY? YES, SIR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CR OH, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WE, WITHIN THAT MOTION, WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL OF WHAT WE WOULD NEED IN THAT MOTION PER OUR, PER OUR TASK FORCE POLICY THAT WE ADOPTED.
SO WE HAVE THAT, UH, WE NEED TO CLEARLY DEFINE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UH, TASK FORCE REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL ON A REGULAR BASIS, UM, CLEARLY DEFINED, DISSOLVE DATE OR DELIVERABLE OF EACH TASK FORCE.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE SINGLE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS WOULD HAVE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL.
BUT SINCE THIS IS KIND OF A CITY-WIDE THING, I GUESS THAT THAT RULE MAY NOT BE SO RELEVANT, UH, THERE AS WELL.
AND, UH, YEAH, SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS ARE IN THE MOTION AS WELL.
DO YOU HAVE A TIMEFRAME FOR WHEN YOU WANT TO TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING BROUGHT BACK? UH, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE TWO OTHER MEMBERS HERE.
I LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING BACK AT ONE OF OUR JULY MEETINGS.
IF THAT'S NOT TOO QUICK FOR YOU ALL, WE JUST NEED TO GET ON IT.
CERTAINLY WE CAN MEET VIRTUALLY.
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HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE.UH, I'M COMMITTED TO MEETING ANY TIME OF THE DAY THAT WORKS FOR YOU ALL SORRY, STAFF.
UH, SO, UH, MY, I WOULD SAY BY THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD.
CAUSE, UM, TO, TO ADD TO EVERYTHING THAT, THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS WE'VE HAD, I'M SURE ALL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY, BUT CATHERINE NELSON SAYS CORRECTLY, ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT SIX, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPEN STREETS.
A LOT OF WIDE STREETS GOT A LOT OF, UH, STUDENTS SETS A WALK HOME AND SO FORTH AND CATCH BUSES.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS A, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS NOW AS A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN AND ISSUE, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT WE'VE GOT GOING.
SO IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING MAYBE HOPEFULLY IMPLEMENTED, UM, MAYBE BY AUGUST FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE IT READY BY THE TIME SCHOOL STARTS AND WE CAN BE ABLE TO SLOW SOME OF THIS TRAFFIC DOWN ON THAT END.
WE CAN PINPOINT CERTAIN AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, MAYBE CERTAIN SIDE STREETS, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
UM, I'M HOPING THAT THE SCOPE ALSO INCLUDES A POLICY RELATED TO TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN SO THAT WE DESIGN THE STREETS THE CORRECT WAY FROM THE BEGINNING, AS OPPOSED TO STREETS THAT CAUSE THAT ALLOW FOR SPEEDING.
IT SHOULD NEVER BE THE CASE WHERE WE GO BACK AND HAVE TO PAY FOR INSTALLING INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH, STREETS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY, UH, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DESIGNED SO THAT THERE WASN'T AN ISSUE TO BEGIN WITH SO THAT IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THE STREETS WIDE AND STRAIGHT, LIKE A HIGHWAY THAT THEY NEED TO INSTALL THESE SPEED TABLES OR SPEED HUMPS RIGHT AWAY, AND THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS OR, UH, PUT IN TRAFFIC CIRCLES, YOU KNOW, OR CURVILINEAR STREETS OR JUST ALL THE OTHER KINDS OF TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO CREATE A POLICY THAT TAKES THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE AS WELL.
THEN SAY THAT WE ADD ONE MORE STAFF MEMBER, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH MR. SELLERS, UH, MR. WILL ATKINSON, UH, TO THAT GROUP AS WELL.
AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR STAFF.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOW FIVE STAFF MEMBERS, THE MOST PERTINENT PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE THERE ARE THE THREE OF US.
AND IF YOU ALL CAN'T MAKE EVERY TIME WE TRY TO SCHEDULE THE MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE IDEAS, YOU CAN EMAIL THOSE IN CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO, YOU CAN VIRTUAL BE VIRTUAL AND ALL THAT STUFF.
BUT I THINK IN ADDING THAT TO THE SCOPE, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE OUR SENIOR PLANNER A PART OF THAT.
I JUST WANT THAT, UH, CHIEF TAYLOR AND EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE DURING THIS DISCUSSION, I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR ELLISON FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR KALE FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION, UH, LAST MEETING AND PUTTING THIS AGENDA, GOT THE, THE WHEELS ON THE BUS ROLLING.
SO SAY, UH, BUT I THINK THIS IS, I SEE THE CONSENSUS THROUGHOUT COUNCIL THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS IS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH A TASK FORCE RELATED TO ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE VARIOUS RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS PROPOSED IN THIS ITEM AND INCLUDE IN THAT TASK FORCE.
UH, CHIEF TAYLOR, CHIEF BARNETT, UH, LEON BARBARA HARPER WILDER, UH, WILL ACT IT'S IN ROBERT RIZZO, DEX ELLISON AND MICHAEL TOBY'S AND SET AS AN EXPECTATION THAT THE TASK FORCE WOULD BRING BACK, UH, A POLICY AS OUTLINED IN THIS DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS IS OUTLINED IN THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT A SECOND MEETING IN JULY, MOVE BY MAYOR SECOND BY CUSTOMER ELLISON.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? DID I GET THAT? WAS THAT GOOD? ALL RIGHT.
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 36.
CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF CITY OF KYLE TEXAS AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 1273 AND RESTATING THE CITY OF KYLE RULES.
WAS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL? SO I HAVE, UM, UH, BEEN WANTING TO BRING FORWARD, UH, MULTIPLE PROPOSED CHANGES TO HELP CLARIFY, UH, SOME OF THE RULES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, PER THE CITY CHARTER, UH, AND ALSO APPEAL TO THE COUNCIL TO ADAPT, ADOPT CERTAIN POLICIES THAT, UH, ARE THE HOLDEN, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS COUNCIL TO ESTABLISH.
AND SO, UH, RATHER THAN JUST SORT OF SPITBALLING WHY I THOUGHT IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE PROPOSED CHANGES, UH, AND RE READ THE MAIN ONES, THERE'S BASICALLY THREE MAIN SECTIONS, UH, READ THEM AND EXPLAIN WHY I WORDED THE CHANGES, THE WAY THAT I DID WHAT I'M HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, WITH THOSE CHANGES, UH, AND THEN ALLOW FOR FEEDBACK AND, UH, A VOTE OR NO VOTE.
UM, SO THE FIRST, UH, PROPOSED CHANGE IS AS IT RELATES TO THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA, UH, UH, LAST YEAR
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COUNCIL MADE A, UH, CHANGE TO REQUIRE THAT COUNCIL ITEMS GO TO THE, UH, BEGINNING OF EVERY AGENDA.AND IT'S THE, THE WORDING WAS TO PUT COUNCIL ITEMS AT THE BEGINNING OF, UH, WELL, WHATEVER COUNCIL REQUESTED, UH, OR WHATEVER SECTION THE AGENDA ITEM BELONGS TO.
UH, THERE WAS SOME, UH, INITIALLY, UH, SOME DESIRE ON MY PART CREATE ADDITIONAL SECTIONS SO THAT I COULD CLARIFY, NOT JUST ESSENTIALLY PUT COUNCIL ITEMS AT THE BEGINNING OF EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
UH, THERE WERE A LOT OF REASONS FOR THAT.
UM, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY I FELT LIKE THAT WASN'T REALLY FOLLOWING THE SPIRIT OF WHAT THIS BODY PUT FORWARD.
UH, AND FOR ME TO ADD SECTIONS, UH, DID FEEL A LITTLE BIT UNDERHANDED, EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVED THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
SO I, I HAVE SINCE CHANGED THAT, BUT I DO WANT TO COME BACK AND PROPOSE, UH, SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT THAT STILL TAKES INTO ACCOUNT.
WHAT I HEARD, UH, IN THAT MEETING WAS THE PRIMARY, UH, ISSUE.
AND THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT IF THERE ARE, UH, REASONABLE, UH, COUNSEL DOES THAT, IF THERE'S A REASONABLE COUNCIL DESIRE TO HAVE THEIR ITEM PLACED HIGHER UP, UH, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT SO LONG AS IT'S REASONABLE, UH, THAT THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE.
AND SO THE, THE WAY I REWORDED IT IS THAT AGENDA ORDER IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER.
AND WE'LL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING FORMAT, UH, PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS FIRST, THEN CITY BUSINESS, UH, THEN COUNCIL BUSINESS.
UH, AND IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WISHES TO REQUEST AN ITEM, BE PLACED IN A SPECIFIC LOCATION ON THE AGENDA, HE OR SHE SHOULD MAKE THE REQUEST AND WRITING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE AGENDA REQUEST AND SHALL INCLUDE AN EXPLANATION.
AND THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER SHALL ACCOMMODATE THE REQUEST IF IT IS DEEMED REASONABLE AND NOT HARMFUL TO THE FLOW OF THE MEETING.
AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THE ITEMS THAT COUNCIL BROUGHT FORWARD THIS TIME, UH, ONE WAS A RECONSIDERATION ITEM RELATED TO A ZONING, UH, AND IT HAD, UH, HAD IT BEEN, UH, UH, UP TO ME, I WOULD HAVE PLACED THAT FURTHER DOWN BEHIND OTHER ITEMS, UH, THAT WERE GETTING THEIR FIRST READING AS OPPOSED TO A RECONSIDERATION ITEM.
UH, OTHER ITEMS FROM THE COUNCIL MAY PROPOSE LIKE THAT WOULD BE AN UNVETTED ITEM, UH, THAT, THAT HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE THE COUNCIL BEFORE MIGHT FIND ITS WAY BELOW ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN BEING PREPARED FOR MONTHS OR YEARS, EVEN, UH, IN SOME CASES, MAJOR CONTRACTS WHERE WE HAVE, UH, PAID STAFF MEMBERS, UH, UH, THAT ARE HERE SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE ITEMS. AND, UH, ALSO, UH, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HERE TO PRESENT AND, OR DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.
AND SO, UH, I KNOW THAT IT'S, THERE'S NO PERFECT SCENARIO HERE, UH, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE BETTER WAY TO HANDLE IT, UH, AS OPPOSED TO CREATING A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SECTIONS AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE THAT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, UH, WOULD JUST BE TO ALLOW FOR THE FLOW OF THE AGENDA TO BE SET BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER KNOWS THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE RESIDENTS THAT ARE COMING SPECIFICALLY TO HEAR, UH, ON A PARTICULAR TOPIC, OR TO PRESENT, FOR EXAMPLE, ON A PARTICULAR TOPIC, THEY CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST.
AND THOSE, THOSE REQUESTS WOULD BE DEEMED VALID.
UM, UH, I'M GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THEM ALL JUST SO YOU CAN HEAR ALL MY THOUGHTS UP FRONT.
YOU WANT, YOU'D RATHER BE ONE AT A TIME.
UH, IS THERE, UH, ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT ITEM? MAYBE PROTEIN.
UH, MAYOR I'M READING THROUGH THIS ONE AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, REMOVE HIS AGENDA ORDER AT THE DISCRETION OF THE, AND THEN, SO IT READS MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER WILL, WILL FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING FORMAT IS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO SEE, UH, THERE, INSTEAD OF ALL THE OTHER LANGUAGE ON THERE.
AND IT'S JUST MY OPINION ON THAT.
I THINK I HAVE A KNEE ISSUE BECAUSE, UM, I AGREE WITH LIKE THE FORMAT THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK I SHOULD PUT AN EXPLANATION ON WHY I WANT AN ITEM TO BE PUT FIRST OR LAST.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HARMING THE FLOW OF THE MEETING IS GOING TO BE ANY PUT IN AN ITEM IT'S GOING TO BE REASONABLE OR NOT.
UM, I HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T COME TO THE MEETINGS, BUT THEY ARE WATCHING AS WE SPEAK AND THEY USUALLY MESSAGE ME.
AND I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE THEM WAIT FOR HOURS, LIKE HAVING AN ITEM THAT IS GOING TO TELL TAYLOR 11:00 PM.
UM, I'D RATHER, I MUCH RATHER HAVING ITEMS THAT ARE FOR COUNCIL AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE RESIDENTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PAYING TAXES AND WE WORK FOR RATHER THAN HAVING DEVELOPERS, HAVING ITEMS AT THE BEGINNING WHEN THEY'RE BASICALLY MAKING MONEY OUT OF US.
SO THAT, THAT TO ME IS A PROBLEM.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GIVE EXPLANATIONS TO
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THE CITY MANAGER OR THE MAYOR ON WHY I NEED AN ITEM TO BE AT THE BEGINNING.I DON'T, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT.
UM, I BELIEVE IN THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN MOVING ALONG FAIRLY WELL, SO I'M KIND OF CONFUSED AS TO WHY THIS CHANGE.
UM, I FEEL LIKE I'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS WITH MYSELF.
UM, I FEEL LIKE AS FAR AS THE STRUCTURE, I THINK IT'S GREAT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, I'M ON BOARD.
IF, YOU KNOW, IF, IF DEEMED NECESSARY THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION PROCLAMATION, AND WHAT KIND OF CONFUSES ME IS, YOU KNOW, CITY BUSINESS VERSUS COUNCIL BUSINESS, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY COUNCIL BUSINESS IS CITY BUSINESS.
AND SO LOOKING AT THIS ADDITION, IT LOOKS REALLY DISCRETIONARY, UM, WHICH WAS, I THINK THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD THE FIRST TIME GOING AROUND.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TOOK A VOTE AND IT PASSED TO PLACE AGENDA ITEMS THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO PUT AT THE TOP.
UM, AND AGAIN, I BELIEVE IT IT'S, IT'S WORKED REALLY WELL.
UM, THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS WE LOOK UP AND YOU SEE DEVELOPERS EVERYWHERE, AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE THEM WAIT THAN OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM, I, IT'S NOT ONLY DEVELOPERS THAT ARE WAITING ON THEIR ITEMS, IT'S IT'S STAFF.
SO THE DIRECTION OF, OF IS THAT STAFF HAS TO WAIT UNTIL ITEMS THAT THEY ARE PRESENTING, UM, ARE COMPLETED.
AND SO IT, AGAIN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL ITEM THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER MIGHT REQUEST WOULD NOT COME TO THE FRONT.
THERE SHOULD JUST BE SOME KIND OF MECHANISM IN PLACE, UH, FOR DISCRETION ON THE FLOW.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL IDEA BEING THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ITEMS THAT THEY'RE HERE FOR, THAT THEY DROVE HERE FOR, UH, OR THAT THEY'RE BEING PAID TO BE HERE FOR, ARE ABLE TO GET RESOLVED THE FASTEST.
UM, AND SO, BUT THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, THE DESIRE HERE IS NOT TO SAY THAT COUNCIL ITEMS CAN'T COME FORWARD FASTER, BUT RATHER IF THERE ARE POTENTIAL, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN SCENARIOS WHERE, UH, THE FLOW JUST WASN'T WASN'T RIGHT.
AND THERE WERE BASED ON THIS PARTICULAR RULE AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS PUT IN THERE, UH, IT, THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO ABILITY TO CHANGE IT AND ITEMS WERE BEING PUT AT THE BEGINNING THAT, UH, I DID NOT BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE THERE.
UH, AND I THINK THAT IT CAUSED ISSUES, UM, UH, WITH THESE MEETINGS, BUT THIS IS THE PROPOSAL I WANTED TO MAKE.
SO I HAVE IT, IT'S JUST MY PROPOSAL.
IS THERE OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
IN HINDSIGHT, WHAT IT IS THAT THESE, ALL THESE, ALL THESE ITEMS, WHETHER IT WAS BUSINESS OR COUNCIL MEMBER TONIGHT ITEMS, THEY JUST BECAME A LARGE DEBATE THAT LASTED SOMETIMES AN HOUR FOR ONE ITEM.
UM, YES, IT HAS BEEN RUN SMOOTHLY, THESE PAST FEW COUNCIL MEMBER MEETINGS.
UH, AGAIN, WE'RE GETTING THROUGH BUSINESSES, WE'RE GETTING THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY WANT TO BRING FORWARD.
UM, BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE BIG PICTURE OF IT ALL, THE REASON WHY THEY DRAGGED OUT SO LONG, THESE MEETINGS WAS EVERYTHING BECAME A DEBATE.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WE DIDN'T AGREE ON BOTH SIDES.
AND IT JUST DRAGGED ON WITH THAT.
THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THIS HERE IS THE FLOW THEMES TO BE OKAY WITH ME THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT, AS HOW I KNOW I CHANGED IT LAST TIME TO BE ABLE TO BECOME MORE THAN ALL BRANDS, TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF THINGS WORK.
CAUSE I'M, I'M MORE OF SOMEBODY WHO LET'S TRY SOMETHING NEW.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, I HAVE, I'VE ALWAYS FELT WE STILL NEED TO HAVE TIME LIMITS WHENEVER WE'RE BRINGING IN GIN ITEMS. I KIND OF RESEARCHED THE OTHER DAY, UH, LOS ANGELES CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
AND HERE IT SAYS WHENEVER, UH, THE ABOVE MEMBERS OPENS THE DEBATE, HE OR SHE HAS UP TO SIX MINUTES TO OPEN UP THEIR DEBATE.
EACH OF THE REMAINING COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY THEN SPEAK UP TO THREE MINUTES AND IT WOULD GO TWICE.
AND THEN AFTER THE SECOND TIME, THEN THAT WAS IT.
AND THEN YOU MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN YOU MOVE FORWARD.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED THROUGH THE YEAR IS THAT WE'VE CONTINUOUSLY, WOULDN'T LIKE, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS DISCUSSING THESE ITEMS. BUT MY IDEA HAS ALWAYS BEEN IS IF WE SET PARAMETERS AND SET TIME LIMITS ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS, WE CAN RUN THROUGH THINGS A LOT MORE QUICKLY, NOT SO MUCH QUICKLY, BUT MORE EFFICIENTLY IN THAT SENSE.
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TIME LIMITS CAN BE CHALLENGING.I AGREE THAT IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE FOLLOWED, UH, THAT YOU KNOW, OR WE ALL WANTED TO DO, THEN IT COULD, IT COULD MAKE SENSE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, THE MAIN REASON FOR ALLOWING FOR, UH, AN AGENDA TO BE SET WITHOUT, UH, THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER BEING FORCED TO PUT CERTAIN ITEMS IN CERTAIN SPOTS OR THAT THERE ARE ITEMS THAT JUST ARE NOT YET VETTED OR THAT ARE COUNCIL FOCUSED SUCH AS THE RULES OF COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S NOT A VETTED ITEM, MEANING ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO BRING FORWARD AND MAKE A PROPOSAL.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S RIGHT, THAT WE SHOULD LEAD OFF THE MEETING WITH THAT PROPOSAL AND ALLOW FOR THAT COUNCIL TO TAKE UP THE TIME THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE UP RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF THE MEETING WHEN WE HAVE URGENT OR W I WOULDN'T SAY URGENT, BUT WHEN WE HAVE BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD WITH A LOT OF RESOURCES, OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS HAVE GONE IN TO BRINGING THOSE ITEMS FORWARD AS WELL.
THERE AREN'T JUST DEVELOPER ITEMS. THERE'S ZONING, THAT'S AN ITEM OF PUBLIC INTEREST, THEIR CONTRACTS, THAT'S AN ITEM OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
AND SO MY GENERAL FEELING HAS BEEN FOR SIX YEARS, THAT THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE VETTED, THAT HAVE COUNCIL SUPPORT, OR THAT ARE READY TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL FOR A VOTE SHOULD BE THE THINGS THAT WE TAKE OFF THE TOP AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATION.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO TOWARDS THE END OF THE ITEM AT THE MEETING, THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT WE ARE INDIVIDUALLY WANTING TO PROPOSE.
AND THEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT POINT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR A MOTION TO BRING SOMETHING BACK, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCILLOR ELLISON'S ITEM, JUST NOW THAT HE PUT TO THE END THAT WE MADE A VOTE AND PUT A TASKFORCE ON WHEN THAT POLICY COMES BACK, THAT IS BY STAFF DIRECTION.
AND REGARDLESS OF WHO SPONSORS IT, THAT TAKES IT, THAT HAS A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN WHAT'S ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO BRING FORWARD AND JUST SORT OF THROW OUT THERE.
AND SO THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA FOR CHANGING FOR TAKING AWAY THE REQUIREMENT THAT COUNCIL ITEMS MUST BE AT THE FRONT AND ALLOWING FOR THERE TO BE MORE OF A FLOW, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC REASON WHY A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS THEIR ITEM PLACED HIGHER UP, THAT THEY CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST.
AND IN THE, THE WORDING HERE IS THAT THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER SHALL ACCOMMODATE THAT.
THE ONLY REASON WHY THAT WE WOULD, UH, POTENTIALLY NOT ACCOMMODATE THAT IS IF THERE, IT WAS TRULY AN UNVETTED ITEM.
AND THE FEELING BECAME THAT IT WAS A FORM OF WEAPONIZING, THE AGENDA OR DESIRE TO MAKE SPEECHES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, UH, TO PUT FOLKS ON TRIAL, UH, TO GAIN AN AUDIENCE, UH, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WHICH HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THIS, WITH THIS DYESS FOR CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME.
AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR IN PUTTING THOSE ITEMS, IF THEY ARE BEING PROPOSED TO THE END, UH, OF THE AGENDA, SO THAT, UH, THE AUDIENCE ISN'T HERE AND WE'RE NOT MAKING THOSE KINDS OF, UH, HAVING THOSE KINDS OF DEBATES AND DISCUSSIONS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE WHO IS HERE FOR ALL THE OTHER ITEMS, EXCEPT FOR THAT THAT'S, THAT IS, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SORT OF THE CORE ISSUE, UH, THAT IS AT HAND.
AND SO I TRIED TO COME UP WITH WORDING THAT YES, THERE IS, THERE IS GRAY AREA IN THE WORDING, BUT THE WORDING DOES LEND ITSELF TO THE, THE, THE COUNCIL IS STILL, UH, HAVING THE CONFIDENCE THAT AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HAVE SOME KIND OF NEFARIOUS INTENT THAT THE, THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER WILL BRING THAT, PUT THE ITEM WHEREVER IT IS PROPOSED BY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CUSTOMER FOR SCALE.
SO I, AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THIS FLOW IS WORKING.
I FEEL LIKE IT WAS CHANGED BECAUSE THERE WAS ABUSE ON THAT END.
I FEEL LIKE, UM, EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID WAS GREAT, BUT AGAIN, JUST SIX SHORT MONTHS AGO, WE CHANGED THIS BECAUSE THERE WERE AN ISSUE, THERE WAS ISSUES.
AND, UH, THE, THE, EVERYTHING IS GOOD.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS WORKING.
IF WE, IF WE HAVE IT IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL, THAT THIS IS THE WAY IT HAS TO BE, BUT YET WE CAN CHANGE IT DURING THE MEETING.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S BEST BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT WORKED FOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON TODAY.
SO I FIND MORE FAITH IN KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS NOW, AND THEN HAVING THE ABILITY TO CHANGE IT LATER THEN TO HAVE IT DISCRETIONARY AND CAUSE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO STRIKE THE CHANGES IN, UH, GIRLS OF COUNCIL AGENDA.
THERE'S A MOTION TO STRIKE THE AGENDA LANGUAGE IN, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER SECTION B'S OR SECOND WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR A SECOND.
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MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND CUSTOMER.UM, SO I'M, I'M IN A, UH, MIDDLE PLACE HERE.
UH, UM, I'LL, I'M NOT A FAN OF WHAT I SEE WRITTEN HERE.
I'LL ADMIT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY HEAR MY COLLEAGUES SAYING THAT THINGS WERE ABUSED.
SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE MADE A CHANGE.
UH, I ALSO HEAR THE MAYOR SAYING THAT HE FEELS LIKE THE OTHER WAY THAT IT WAS BEING ABUSED.
SO WE ALL HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT WHERE THAT HAS GONE.
I'LL ALSO SAY THAT SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE I'M IN A DIFFERENT MEETING THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
UH, WHEN WE CHANGED THE RULES OF COUNCIL, THIS WAS BACK IN JANUARY MEETINGS STILL WERE GOING SLOW.
WE HAD AN AGENDA ITEM COME UP ABOUT HOW TO SPEED THOSE, UH, SPEED UP OUR AGENDAS.
WHAT CHANGED WAS THE EARLY EMOTIONS AND USING THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL TO MAKE THE MEETINGS MORE EFFICIENT.
SO I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT WASN'T THE CHANGE IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL THAT CHANGED THAT IT WAS US USING THE TOOLS AT OUR DISPOSAL TO MAKE THE MEETINGS GO FASTER AND PERHAPS US BEING NOT.
SO LONG-WINDED, UH, WHEN WE SPEAK ABOUT IT ITEMS, THE NEXT THING I WOULD SAY IS, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, YOU KNOW, TODAY WAS A INTERESTING EXAMPLE.
I HEAR MY COLLEAGUE HERE FROM A DISTRICT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE OPTION FOR, YOU KNOW, PUT THE, MY ITEM AT THE TOP, LIKE THE RULES GO.
AND THEN I ASKED ON THAT ITEM TO MOVE IT BACK DOWN AND IT STILL WAS A NO FOR THAT.
SO, UM, SO, SO, YOU KNOW, CAN'T EVEN GET THAT INDIGENT ITEM WOULDN'T EVEN EXIST IF I DIDN'T BRING IT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I FIND REALLY INTERESTING ABOUT THE ARGUMENTS BEING MADE HERE.
SO I STATED THAT I'M NOT A FAN OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S WRITTEN HERE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SUBJECTIVITY, UM, IN PARTICULAR POSITIONS, WHICH WAS THE REASON WHY WE WENT AGAINST THIS.
SO MAYBE I'M JUST SPIT BALLING HERE.
NOBODY MIGHT NOT, MIGHT NOT LIKE IT, BUT HERE HERE'S AN OPTION.
SO AS OPPOSED TO THE RE UH, THE WRITING, WHICH I HEAR COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, PARTIALLY, UH, THAT YOU, YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PERHAPS THERE IS AN OPTION OF WE, YOU KNOW, YOU DID SAY YOU'RE, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE FORMAT THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR.
WHAT IF INSTEAD OF A, A WRITTEN REASONING ASKING THE MAYOR OR THE CITY MANAGER WITH, UH, AN EXPLANATION OF WHY YOUR AGENDA ITEMS SHOULD BE MOVED UP BECAUSE IT, AND I HEAR THE MIRROR, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT IT NOT BEING VETTED, NOT REALLY BEING, YOU KNOW, INTRODUCED, UH, WHERE THERE'S OTHER COUNCIL BUY-IN OR SUPPORT, EVEN IF THEY ENDED UP NOT VOTING FOR IT.
WHAT IF WE DID A, IN ORDER TO GET YOUR AGENDA ITEM MOVED UP OUT B BEYOND THIS FORMAT, YOU HAVE TO GET A CO-SPONSOR ON YOUR AGENDA ITEM.
SO THAT WAY THAT YOU HAVE, AND Y'ALL ALREADY KNOW I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF TALKING TO Y'ALL OUTSIDE THIS DIOCESE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU WANT YOUR ITEM MOVED UP, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK TO SOMEBODY AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THE MERITS OF WHY YOU SHOULD BE IN THIS ADDITIONAL ITEM.
IF YOU GET A CO-SPONSOR FOR THAT, THEN THAT AUTOMATICALLY MOVES YOU UP INTO A HIGHER, THE HIGHER CATEGORY OF THE AGENDA.
ONCE AGAIN, JUST ME SITTING HERE, LISTENING TO ALL THE BACK AND FORTH TO THIS CONVERSATION AND TRYING TO FIND A WAY FORWARD IN A COMPROMISE HERE, BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND BOTH THE MAYOR'S CONCERNS.
I'VE HEARD THEM, HE AND I HAVE DEBATED THEM SEVERAL TIMES.
AND, BUT I ALSO HEAR THE VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS OF THE MEMBER FROM DISTRICT FIVE.
SO IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KIND OF TAKE ALL THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS THE REASON WHY IN JANUARY, WE WENT SUCH A HARD LINE IN THE ROUTE BECAUSE WE WERE FRUSTRATED AS A COUNCIL, BUT, UH, I DO COMMEND YOU FOR MAKING AN EFFORT IN THIS CHANGE IN LANGUAGE.
LIKE I SAID, I CAN GET BEHIND SOME OF IT, BUT I THINK SOME OF IT IS A LOT OF SUBJECTIVITY THAT WE COULD PROBABLY FIND ANOTHER WAY TO, UH, ALLOW FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER TO GET THEIR ITEM MOVED UP.
WELL, SO JUST TO RESPOND, I ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A CO-SPONSOR VERSION OF THIS.
MY INITIAL DRAFT WOULD JUST BASICALLY JUST SAID THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED CO-SPONSORING OR IF THEY DON'T HAVE CO-SPONSORING, UH, THEN THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER COULD DENY AN ITEM.
AND SO THAT JUST DID NOT SOUND REMOTELY CORRECT AT THE TIME.
IT'S DIFFERENT THAN NECESSARILY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST A CO-SPONSOR TO MOVE IT FORWARD, RIGHT? SO YOUR PROPOSALS MUCH CALMER, I GUESS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REALITY IS WHETHER IT'S AT THE BEGINNING OR AT THE END, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEEN NOW WITH THE VALUE OF MOTIONS AND VOTES THAT WE CAN MOVE ITEMS UP.
AND THE WILL OF COUNCIL IS REALLY WHAT'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY DECIDE WHAT ORDER WE TAKE IN THESE ITEMS IN.
SO THAT, THAT THE, WHAT THE COUNCIL DOESN'T WHAT INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T
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KNOW WHEN THEY'RE PROPOSING AN ITEM IS WHAT IS EVERYONE ELSE PROPOSING? WHAT ARE ALL THE STAFF ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED? WHAT, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE FACTORS THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR HAVING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT 45 DIFFERENT ITEMS HAVE DIFFERENT STAGES OF BEING VETTED OF, YOU KNOW, AND OF IMPORTANCE BASED ON LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.BUT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THERE CAN BE AN ITEM AT THE BEGINNING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST SAYS ORDER ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE UP LIKE THE, THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER DECIDE THE ORDER.
AND IF THERE'S A REQUEST MADE, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN WRITING, BUT WE, WE GIVE IT OUR FIRST GO.
IT'S JUST LIKE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
PEOPLE PULL ITEMS OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO DO, TO DO THAT AS WELL.
BUT IF YOU MAKE A, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THERE'S AN ITEM AT THE BEGINNING, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT, WHERE YOUR ITEM WAS PLACED BEFORE I JUST START IN ON ALL THE ITEMS, THERE CAN BE, UH, A MOTION TO REORDER ANY PARTICULAR ITEM OR TAKE ANY ITEM OUT OF BOARDER.
I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKED THAT IDEA.
SORRY, I'M SPITTING OUT OF IT.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THAT PROPOSAL? ALL RIGHT.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT'S THE WAY IT PREVIOUSLY WAS THAT STILL CAUSED AN ISSUE.
SO BEFORE I, I HAD ASKED IF I COULD MOVE MY ITEM UP AND I WAS TOLD NO.
AND SO THEN IT WENT TO COUNCIL AND THEN I WAS TOLD NO AGAIN.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE ISSUE IS, BUT THAT SHOULD BE THE COUNCIL WILL, SHOULD BE WHAT PREVAILS AND THAT THAT'S NOT THE MAYOR.
I DIDN'T, I REALLY DIDN'T TRY TO WRITE THIS TO GIVE THE MAYOR A TON OF REACH HERE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF US DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE COUNCILMAN ELLISON'S ITEM, BUT THE MAJORITY OF US, UH, DID, BUT WE HAVE THAT WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW WITH KEEPING COUNCIL ON TOP, WE HAVE THAT STUFF IN THE SAME WAY YOU WANT TO CHANGE.
I FEEL SAFE, KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS.
AND SO IF WE CAN CHANGE IT FOR ME TO ASK AT THE TOP, THEN OTHER PEOPLE CAN ASK TO GO TO THE BOTTOM.
AND THAT SEEMS A LITTLE LESS DISCRETIONARY BECAUSE FROM RETRO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BOTH COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID, MAYOR WERE EXCELLENT COMPROMISES.
AND I WOULD, I COULD NOT EVEN ATTEMPT TO REPEAT THE VERBIAGE, BUT IF ONE OF Y'ALL WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR ONE OF THOSE THINGS, OH, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, THAT WE STRUCK OUT OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WE STRIKE AGENDA ORDER IS AT THE DISCRETION OF, AND BEGIN THAT SENTENCE WITH THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER.
UH, AND IN ADDITION, ADD LANGUAGE THAT, UH, PLACES BEFORE CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION, AN ITEM THAT, UH, CALLS THE MAYOR TO RECOMMEND, UH, OR, UH, UH, REQUEST, UH, UH, ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WISH TO MOVE ANY ITEMS SO THAT THE ITEMS CAN BE VOTED ON IF SUCH A MOVEMENT IS CONSIDERED.
AGAIN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THERE WAS, WELL, IT'S NOT MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND BY CUSTOMER OF TOBY IS TO CLARIFY THE MOTION.
IT'S, UH, THERE'S JUST GOING TO BE A STANDING AGENDA ITEM AT THE BEGINNING BEFORE CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION THAT WILL, WILL STATE, UM, UH, UH, ORDER OF AGENDA.
AND THERE WILL, I WILL BRING FORWARD AT THAT TIME.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO, UH, MAKE MOTIONS TO REORDER THE AGENDA OR ANY ITEM IN THE AGENDA? AND THERE CAN BE A MOTION MADE AT THAT POINT IN TIME? SO, YES.
SO I ACTUALLY LIKED THIS PROPOSAL MORE THAN MY CO-SPONSOR PROPOSAL.
UH, SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY YOUR EMOTION, A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO STRIKE THE LANGUAGE, STARTING WITH IF ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF THAT SENTENCE.
CAUSE THAT WOULD NEED TO GO IN ORDER FOR ME TO SUPPORT THAT.
SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE THE, THE FORMAT, BUT I LOVE THAT THIS ACTUALLY CODIFIED A POINT IN THE FORMAT OF THE AGENDA WHERE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN APPEAL TO THE BODY AND SAY, HEY, I WOULD LIKE MY AGENDA ITEM MOVED UP AND THEN THE COUNCIL WILL, WILL PREVAIL.
I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS, THIS SOLUTION, THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IF WE COULD GET THAT LANGUAGE, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WISHES ALL THAT, THAT STUFF NEEDS TO GO, BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT MY ISSUE WAS.
SO, SO THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE, UH, THE MAYOR AND, AND SORRY, MARIN CITY MANAGER WILL FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING FORMAT, PRESENTATION, PROCLAMATIONS NUMBER TWO, CITY BUSINESS, NUMBER THREE, COUNSEL BUSINESS.
AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO ADD THE LANGUAGE OF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THE OPTION TO REQUEST THEIR ITEM, GO TO THE TOP, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IT'S THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER, UH, UH, UH, NOT AN,
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THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING FORMAT, PRESENTATIONS OF PROCLAMATION, CITY, BUSINESS, COUNCIL, BUSINESS, UH, AND THEN STRIKE THE REST AND THEN PUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, UH, BEFORE CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION, THERE WILL BE A, UH, A STANDING ITEM AGENDA ORDER CALLED AGENDA ORDER.AND AT THAT TIME, COUNCIL CAN MAKE MOTIONS TO MOVE THE AGENDA ORDER.
IS THAT, YEAH, I THINK WE ALL, WE ALL KIND OF, THE WAY I SEE IT PLAYING OUT IS CERTAINLY, AND IF WE CAN STICK TO THAT, YOU KNOW, AS THE PRESENTATIONS PROCLAMATIONS, AFTER DOING THE MINUTES, ROLL CALL PLEDGE, ALL OF THAT, THEN CONSENT AGENDA, THEN IT'S THAT ITEM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AGENDA, ORDER, AGENDA ORDER, AND THEN THEY CONSIDER POPS GO ACTION.
AND THEN COUNCIL BUSINESS, IF THAT STICKS TO THAT SPECIFIC ORDER, I CAN, I CAN RIDE WITH THAT CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE BEFORE WE CAN WE, CAN WE BRING THIS BACK JUST TO REVIEW TILL WE GET A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE OF MARKING STUFF OUT, I'D LIKE TO GET A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT'S.
I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH THIS I'M OKAY.
I JUST, BEFORE WE FINALIZED, CAN WE JUST LAY EYES ON IT ONE MORE TIME? WELL, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD SENSE OF THE, OF THE LANGUAGE.
I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BRING IT BACK, SO, ALL RIGHT.
SO THERE'S A SCRIBNER ERROR CHANGED ON AN ITEM, NUMBER TWO IT'S MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS JUST CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE LANGUAGE, NOT, AND, UH, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.
UM, WE'LL TAKE THE, ALL THE SCRIBNER'S AREAS OF AT ONCE, YOU KNOW, SO I CHANGED COUNCIL MEETING PROCEEDINGS JUST BECAUSE THE COUNCIL STAFF ITEM IS DIFFERENT THAN COUNCIL MEETINGS.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR AGENDA ITEM FOR D ON PAGE THREE, UH, UH, ON PAGE FOUR, CHANGING YES.
TO NO ON MOTION TO ADJOURN, JUST BECAUSE HASN'T BEEN OUR HABIT.
UM, AND, UH, THEN AT THE END ON, ON PAGE FIVE AT THE END OF POINT, NUMBER THREE, HA HANDLING A MOTION, UH, IT'S JUST NOT THE WAY IT'S EVER BEEN DONE THAT THE LANGUAGE HAS STRUCK, UH, WHENEVER EMOTION A SECOND IS MADE, I CALL THE MOTION, CALL THE SECOND AND THEN ASK FOR, UH, FOR FURTHER COMMENTS.
SO GENERALLY I, YOU KNOW, DON'T GIVE THE FLOOR IMMEDIATELY BACK TO WHOEVER MADE THE MOTION AND THAT INCLUDES THE MAYOR WILL I IT'S REOPENED UP FOR DISCUSSION.
SO I STRUCK THAT, UH, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THAT WE ALWAYS DO IT.
UH, CALLING THE QUESTION, UH, IS REALLY, UH, MORE A POINT OF, OF CLARIFICATION.
UH, THE MAYOR, UH, DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTERRUPT THE SPEAKER, UM, UH, PER PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, BUT THIS JUST, UH, TO CALL THE QUESTION, BUT THIS JUST CODIFIES THAT THE MAYOR CAN DO THAT IN THE ORDER CUSTOMER FORCE KILL.
UM, CAN YOU POINT ME TO THAT? BECAUSE CALLING THE QUESTION IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE FLOOR.
SO I DIDN'T, CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE POINT OF ORDER YOU CAN INTERRUPT, BUT CALLING THE QUESTION IS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THE FLOOR, UH, WELL, THE POINT OF ORDER ACTUALLY CAN'T BE BROUGHT UP BROUGHT FORWARD UNLESS IT IS, AS IT RELATES TO THE ITEM AT HAND, WAIT, WAIT, YOU CAN INTERRUPT FOR THAT FOR THE POINT OF WHAT I'M SAYING FOR THE PRIORITY, YOU CAN INTERRUPT, BUT FOR CALLING THE QUESTION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FLOOR, RIGHT? YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE THE FLOOR, THE MAYOR CAN TAKE THE FLOOR, THE MAYOR, THE CHAIR CAN TAKE THE FLORIDA AT ANY TIME.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT, THE WAY THAT IT WORKS.
I DON'T, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT AT ALL, BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED TO ME TODAY AND IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO, NOW THAT I LOOK AT THE CALLING THE QUESTION SINCE I HAD THE FLOOR, UM, AND IT'S NOT A GOOD FEELING TO GET INTERRUPTED WHILE YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR CONVERSATION.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, STRICKEN AND ANYBODY WHO DISAGREES.
I I'D BE GLAD TO CALL THE QUESTION WHILE THEY'RE TALKING.
I THINK YOU MAY HAVE MADE MY ARGUMENT FOR ME THERE, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
UM, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM IN PARTICULAR? ALL RIGHT.
UM, UH, BASED ON THE NEXT ITEM, IT'S JUST GRAMMATICAL CHANGES, UH, AND CONSIDER ON, YOU KNOW, 0.7 0.8.
UH, AND THEN I'M TRYING TO GET DOWN TO, ALRIGHT, SO THE NEXT BIG ITEM IS DECORUM, SO WHAT'S THAT RIGHT? HERE'S THE GOOD STUFF DECORUM.
SO, UM, ON POINT NUMBER TWO, UH, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER.
NO COUNCIL MEMBER SHALL INDULGE IN PERSONALITIES, USE LANGUAGE PUBLICLY OFFENSIVE, OR USE LANGUAGE TENDING TO HOLD A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND I ADDED OR STAFF UP TO CONTEMPT.
UH, AND THAT, THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED TO ACCUSE EXPRESSLY OR IMPLIED ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF OF VIOLATING ETHICS OR STATUTORY LAWS PUBLICLY DURING A COUNCIL MEETING, NOR SHALL COUNCIL MEMBERS BE PERMITTED TO PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TO THAT EFFECT.
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SECTION APPLIES TO THE MAYOR, ALL STAFF AND ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS.SO TO A COUPLE OF POINTS OF CLAIRE MIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, THAT I'M BEING CLEAR.
THIS IS NOT TO PREVENT COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM, UH, HAVING STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT ANY NUMBER OF THINGS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WANTING TO MAKE STATEMENTS ABOUT W W OUR EXPENSE POLICY, FOR EXAMPLE COMES FORWARD.
THAT'S ALL, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE INBOUNDS.
WHAT'S NOT WHAT SHOULD NOT BE INBOUNDS.
AS I, AS I SEE IT IS TO MAKE AN ACCUSATION, UH, THAT, UH, IMPLIES AN ETHICS VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED, UH, OR, UH, STATE LAW HAS BEEN BROKEN BECAUSE THIS COURT IS NOT COMMISSIONED PER THE CHARTER TO ADJUDICATE SUCH ACCUSATIONS.
WE HAVE A BODY IN PLACE FOR, FOR THAT.
IF, UH, IF THERE IS A BELIEF THAT AN ETHICS VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED, UH, OR SOMETHING LIKE FRAUD HAS BEEN COMMITTED, UH, THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE WITH AN ATTORNEY WHO WE HAVE HIRED TO HANDLE THAT AND AN, AND AN ENTIRE APPOINTED, UH, BOARD, UH, IN PLACE TO, UH, TO ALSO, LIKE I SAID, TO ADJUDICATE THAT.
SO, UM, THE ETHICS VIOLATION PROCESS IS REALLY GOOD BECAUSE IT GIVES THE ACCUSED, UH, THE ABILITY TO HAVE 14 DAYS TO FILE A RESPONSE, AND THEN, AND THEN BE HEARD IN A NEUTRAL SETTING.
SO THERE'VE BEEN TIMES, UH, UH, UH, OF RECENT WHERE, UH, ACCUSATIONS THAT WERE VERY CLOSE TO, AND IF NOT OUTRIGHT, UH, MADE FROM, FROM THIS DYESS, UH, UH, IMPLYING THAT OR ACCUSING, UH, UH, UH, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THE MAYOR, OR THE CITY MANAGER OR OTHERS OF VIOLATING ETHICS LAWS, UH, WHERE THE, UH, PERSON WHO'S RECEIVING THAT ACCUSATION IS PUT ON THE DEFENSE AND HAS, UH, IS EITHER, HAS TO REMAIN SILENT OR HAS TO TRY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM THAT ACCUSATION, UM, IMMEDIATELY.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE FAIR AND MOREOVER, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.
UH, WE'RE HERE TO BE PASSIONATE.
WE'RE HERE TO HAVE, UH, OPINIONS.
WE'RE HERE TO GO THROUGH AND DEBATE WHEN DEBATE IS NECESSARY.
AND THEN WE'RE HERE TO HANDLE THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT ETHICS VIOLATIONS, UH, OR ACCUSATIONS ABOUT ETHICS VIOLATIONS BELONGS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION CUSTOMER FOR SCALE? UM, THANK YOU.
AND I JUST WANT TO, BEFORE I START, I JUST WANT TO SAY IF AN IMPLICATION IS INCORRECT, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT TOO.
UM, BUT AS A COUNCIL, WE'RE AWARE OF THE CURRENT FINANCIAL ISSUES, AS WELL AS OTHER ISSUES CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION AND DUE TO THE NUMEROUS CHARTER VIOLATIONS FROM THIS RED LINE, THIS VERBIAGE SHOULD NEVER CROSS AN ELECTED OFFICIALS MIND, MUCH LESS BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION THE CITY'S CHARTER TESTS COUNCIL WITH VERY SPECIFIC RESPONSIBILITIES, WHICH WE ARE BOUND TO BY LAW, BY LIMITING OUR ABILITY TO DO OUR JOB IS UNFAIR TO OUR RESIDENTS, THE CHARTER AND OATH WE TOOK WHEN WE, AND THE CHARTER AND THE OATS WE TOOK WHEN WE WERE SWORN IN THE FOLLOWING, OUR CHARTER CONFLICTS, I FOUND WITH THE BREAD LINE CHANGES IN SECTION D ARTICLE THREE, SECTION THREE, MEETINGS OF THE CITY'S CHARTER STATES THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER MAY REQUIRE ANY ITEM RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
FOR WHICH NOTICE MAY BE GIVEN IF COUNCIL VOTES TO ALLOW HER PROHIBITING SUBJECTS RELEVANT TO THE CITY BUSINESS, TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA OR DISCUSS ON THE DAYAS.
THIS WOULD BE A DIRECT VIOLATION OF OUR CITY'S CHARTER ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 3.05 CITY COUNCIL JUDGE OF ITS MEMBERS.
STATES CITY COUNCIL SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO PUNISH MEMBERS FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
THIS INCLUDES MISDEMEANORS INVOLVING MORAL TURPITUDE, WHICH THE CHARTER DEFINES AS DISHONESTY, FRAUD, DECEIT, MISREPRESENTATION, DELIBERATE VIOLENCE, OR THAT REFLECT AT FIRSTLY ON A MEMBER'S DISHONEST AND TRUSTWORTHINESS.
THIS VERBIAGE PROPOSED IN THIS RULE CHANGE WHAT DIRECTLY HINDER THE COUNCIL FROM SUCH DISCUSSIONS, SECTION 3.06, CORMAN ATTENDANCE, NO ACTION OF THE COUNCIL SHALL BE VALID OR BINDING AND LESS IN AN OPEN MEETING WITH A QUARTER OF A QUORUM PRESENT.
HOW COULD COUNCIL FULFILL ITS OBLIGATIONS AS JUDGES OF ITS MEMBERS AS REFERENCED IN SECTION 3.05 OF THE CHARTER, IF WE ARE UNABLE TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS ON THE DIOCESE, WHICH DISCUSSION REQUIRES PLACEMENT ON THE AGENDA, SECTION 4.03 B OF THE CITY'S CHARTER ENTITLED THE CITY COUNTS ENTITLED THE CITY COUNCIL STATES COUNCIL IS TO ENSURE ENFORCEMENT OF PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER AND THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY AND COMPLIANCE WITH POLICIES AND RESOLUTIONS.
IF COUNCIL IS LIMITED ON WHAT CITY BUSINESS THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PLACE ON THE AGENDA, HOW COULD COUNCIL FULFILL ITS OBLIGATION TO ENFORCE PROVISIONS OF THE CITY'S POLICIES AND ORDINANCES OR TO ENFORCE SECTION 4.03 M WHICH REQUIRES COUNCIL TO MAKE INVESTIGATIONS INTO MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS WHEN TOURING THE COLLEGE STATION POLICE DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR, I NOTICED
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A QUOTE ON THEIR WALL, WHICH READS THE ONLY THING NECESSARY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL IS FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING BY ALLOWING THIS VERBIAGE TO BE ADDED TO OUR WILLS OF COUNCIL.WE ARE NOT ONLY CENSORING EACH OTHER, WHICH IS NORMALLY PROHIBITED, PROHIBITED IN GOVERNMENT UNLESS OTHERWISE VOTED ON, BUT WE ARE SUPPORTING THE ACTIONS OF THOSE WHO MAY WANT TO COVER UP THEIR UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR, STATE REPRESENTATIVE.
JOE MOONEY SAID IT BEST WHEN HE STATED THESE RECORDS BELONG TO THE PUBLIC GOVERNMENT.
TRANSPARENCY IS GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY, EVEN WHEN IT'S NOT PRETTY, I YIELD THE FLOOR.
UH, ONLY POINT OF CLARIFICATION I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT IS NOT A VIOLATION OF SECTION 3.05, THE CHARTER, UH, FOR THE RULES OF COUNCIL, TO CLARIFY THE REQUIREMENT PER THE CHARTER THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY PLACE IN THE ITEM BEFORE RULES OF COUNCIL ARE INTENDED TO EXPOUND UPON THAT.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE RULES STATE THAT NO COUNCIL MEMBER CAN PLACE MORE THAN THREE ITEMS BEFORE, UH, THE AGENDA, IN WHICH CASE, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTED A FOURTH, IT WOULD BE DENIED.
AND THAT IS NOT A PROVISION THAT THE CITY CHARTER WOULD ALLOW FOR.
AND THE SAME ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT BY PLACING A FOURTH ITEM OR DENYING A FOURTH ITEM, YOU ARE VIOLATING THE CHARTER.
SO THE RULES OF COUNCIL DO PROHIBIT OR DO AFFORD US THE ABILITY TO DETERMINE OUR OWN PROCEEDINGS.
AND AS IT WAS STATED, WE ARE A, UH, JUDGE OF OUR MEMBERS.
SO IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION CASPER ELLISON? SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S CONCERNS ABOUT HOLDING FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ACCOUNTABLE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS ONE OF OUR CHARGES.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT READING THROUGH THIS, I CAN'T HELP, BUT THINK OF ONE PARTICULAR TIME WHERE THERE WAS AN ACCUSATION MADE ON THIS DIOCESE THAT I FELT WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF BOUNDS.
UH, AND THAT WAS THAT THERE WERE ESSENTIALLY STATUTORY LAWS BROKEN.
UM, AND I JUST, YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT IN THE US CONGRESS.
THERE, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT THEY CAN EVEN SAY AGAINST OTHER COUNTIES, OTHER US REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS.
YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE BLATANT ACCUSATIONS ABOUT YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND SENATORS, UH, SPEAKING AT THE PODIUM.
SO THERE ARE, THERE IS PRECEDENT AND OTHER LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT WHERE THIS IS THE CASE.
AND SO IF THERE IS AN ACTION THAT IS TAKEN BY ANY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL, WE SHOULD HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE THROUGH THE CHANNELS THAT ARE PROVIDED, UM, AT OUR DISPOSAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THAT SOMETHING IS WARRANTED HERE TO DO THIS.
WE CAN CERTAINLY DEBATE THE LANGUAGE IF WE WANT TO, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE SOME THINGS HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF HAND AS FAR AS ACCUSATIONS FROM THIS DYESS WITHOUT ANY KIND OF, UH, PROOF WITH ANY KIND OF BACKING OF THAT IN ORDER TO REINFORCE THAT ACCUSATION MADE.
UM, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THIS COUNCIL.
UH, CERTAINLY THINGS CAN GET, UH, UH, PASSIONATE UP HERE AND HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THINGS, BUT ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE BASELESS.
UH, AND DID, YOU WOULD NOT TAKE TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION, UH, WITH THAT, THAT ACCUSATION I THINK ARE UNFAIR TO THIS ENTIRE BODY.
AND SO THAT, THOSE ARE JUST MY COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
I FEEL LIKE AS LONG AS WE ARE ALLOWED, LIKE I'M NOT, I'M NOT DOWN WITH LIKE PUTTING PEOPLE ON THIS BAG, BRINGING THEM IN FRONT AND JUST ACCUSING THEM.
BUT, UM, AS LONG AS WE ARE ALLOWED TO DISCUSS THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE, THERE IS AN ISSUE, NO MATTER WHAT THE ISSUE IS, MAYBE SOMETHING ETHICAL IS BEING BROUGHT UP OR, UM, SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON WITHIN COUNCIL, AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT MAYBE NAMING SAME THERE'S THERE IS A SITUATION COUNCIL MEMBERS DOING SO-AND-SO AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT, BUT WE ARE NOT SAYING IT IS COUNCIL MEMBER FOR CLUB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THIS PROVISION.
IT IS THIS, THE SPECIFIC SAYS COUNCIL MEMBERS SHALL NOT BE PERMITTED TO ACCUSE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER OR STAFF OF VIOLATING ETHICS OR STATUTE RELATED STATUTORY LAW.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.
YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SAY SUCH AND SUCH, YOU'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'VE DONE THIS AND THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW.
AND I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOLDING SOMEONE UP TO CONTEMPT, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS REALLY MAINLY JUST CLARIFYING THE RULES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE BECAUSE THE RULES WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE SAY THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BRING ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL UP TO CONTEMPT.
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THIS JUST MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WHAT CONTEMPT IS, IT IS AN ACCUSATION OF AN ETHICS OR STATUTORY LAW BEING VIOLATED, BECAUSE IF IT IS THE BELIEF BY ANY OF US, UH, OR ANY ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS OR THE CITY MANAGER THAT AN ETHICS VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED, OR STATUTORY LAW HAS BEEN BROKEN, THERE ARE PROPER CHANNELS THAT CAN GO INTO PLACE THAT WILL BE MADE PUBLIC SO THAT THAT PERSON CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.SO THAT YOU'RE OUR ROLE HERE IS, IS NOT DIMINISHED IN ANY WAY.
WE'RE JUST AGREEING NOT TO USE THIS PLATFORM AS THE, UH, UH, AS THE, AS THE METHOD OF DELIVERING OUR OPINION, BUT RATHER WE'RE FOLLOWING UP JUDICIAL PROCESS.
I MIGHT'VE JUST SAID WE'RE OBLIGATED TO OBSOLETE IF WE FEEL THAT THE STAFF AS WELL, THAT THERE IS AN ETHICS VIOLATION, YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO REPORT THAT.
AND I BELIEVE THIS IS INTENDED TO PROTECT ALL OF US, ALL SEVEN OF US AND SUCH ACCURATE THE NEXT STEP.
THAT, AND IT'S JUST LIKE, BASICALLY ONE QUESTION WHEN IT SAYS, UH, YOU'RE NOT PERMITTED TO PLACE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TO THAT EFFECT.
CAN WE PLACE THE ITEM IN THE AGENDA THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ISSUE WITHOUT NAMING THE PERSON, YOUR ITEM ABOUT THE EXPENSE REPORTS HAVE NO NAMES.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM G TWO, UH, MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN AND PARTIALLY SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE.
THE CHANGES IN AGENDA ARE IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL DECORUM.
G TWO, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN TO THE LAST ONE.
UH, THAT'S A NEW SECTION THAT I'M PROPOSING COUNSEL STAFF COMMUNICATION.
UH, THERE, THERE BEEN LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS.
SO I'M GOING TO READ WHAT, WHAT I'M PROPOSING AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
THE FOLLOWING RULES SHALL APPLY TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR AS PER THE CITY CHARTER POINT.
NUMBER ONE, COUNCIL SHALL NOT GIVE DIRECTION TO ANY MEMBER OF STAFF, INCLUDING THE CITY MANAGER, BUT BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF COUNCIL AT A PUBLIC MEETING, THIS IS, UH, ALMOST DIRECTLY LIFTED FROM THE CITY CHARTER.
SO WHETHER WE VOTE TO APPROVE THIS OR NOT, THAT IS THE RULE, UH, AGENDA POINT NUMBER TWO, COUNCIL, UH, SHALL NOT MAKE REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION FROM ANYONE EXCEPT THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, CITY SECRETARY, OR AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
THE REQUEST SHALL BE IN THE FORM OF AN EMAIL.
AND IN ALL INSTANCES, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE COPIED.
UH, WHENEVER REASONABLE APPROPRIATE STAFF SHALL CULMINATE AND RESPOND TO COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER.
UH, INITIAL RESPONSE, TYPICALLY IN ONE TO TWO BUSINESS DAYS TO PROMOTE FAIRNESS AND TO MAINTAIN STAFF PRODUCTIVITY, THE CITY MANAGER MAY REDUCE THE TIMELINESS OF RESPONSIVENESS TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL INCREASE IF THE VOLUME AND NATURE OF THEIR REQUESTS ARE OUTLIERS COMPARED TO MOST COUNCIL INQUIRIES.
UH, THAT'S A LOT OF VERBIAGE TO TRY TO BASICALLY GET TO, TO DEFINE WHO WE'RE ALLOWED TO EMAIL REQUESTS OF.
UM, AND I DREW IT AT THE LINE OF, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO, UH, INDIVIDUALLY MAKE REQUESTS OF DEPARTMENT HEADS BECAUSE EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD HAS A BOSS WHO HAS A BOSS.
UH, AND SO OUR REQUESTS CAN BE MADE TO, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS AND THE CITY SECRETARY, UM, UH, A CITY ATTORNEY, UH, AND THEN, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY MANAGER HIMSELF IN THIS CASE, UM, THE ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE TOWARDS THE END IS BASICALLY GIVES THE DISCRETION TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH THE CITY MANAGER ALREADY HAS, BUT THIS JUST CLARIFIES IT, UH, THAT IF IN THE EVENT THAT, UH, UH, THE REQUESTS FROM INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, ARE EXCESSIVE, MEANING SOMETHING LIKE 10 TO 15 TIMES, THE VOLUME OF WHAT, UH, ANYONE ELSE'S, UH, PRODUCING, UH, OR IF THE CITY MANAGER BELIEVES THAT THE REQUESTS ARE TO, OF, OF SUCH A NATURE THAT STAFF, UH, UH, DIRECTION FROM, UH, THE CITY MANAGER IS BEING IMPEDED, UH, BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF THE REQUEST, THE CITY MANAGER HAS THE DISCRETION TO, UM, UM, UH, DIRECT STAFF, NOT TO RESPOND OR TO NOT RESPOND IN THE SAME TIMEFRAME AS PERHAPS IT'S BEING DEMANDED BY THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, CITY MANAGER ALREADY HAS ALL OF THOSE.
UH, BUT THIS IS JUST OUR, MY WAY OF TRYING TO GET US TO AGREE AND GIVE HIM THAT, THAT, UH, COMFORT, KNOWING THAT THAT'S OUR POLICY, UH, POINT NUMBER THREE, UH, COUNCIL MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS, UH, COUNSEL SHALL AVOID GIVING DIRECTION OR ASSIGNMENTS TO STAFF DURING MEETINGS, EXCEPT BY MOTION AND MAJORITY VOTE.
STAFF SHALL NOT CONSTRUE ANY QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS FROM COUNCIL AS DIRECTION, EXCEPT BY MOTION AND MAJORITY VOTE.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH POINT NUMBER ONE, AND IT IS ALREADY THE RULE THAT IS IN PLACE.
UH, UH, POINT NUMBER FOUR, COUNSEL MAY REQUEST AND ATTEND MEETINGS WITH STAFF WITH,
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OR WITHOUT THE CITY MANAGER PRESENT.AND THIS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE DEPARTMENT HEADS OR BELOW ANY, ANY MEETING, UH, BUT ONLY WITH THE, UH, WITH THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPRESS PERMISSION OF THE CITY MANAGER, MEANING THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CANNOT, UH, MAKE REQUESTS OF, TO MEET WITH STAFF WITHOUT THE CITY MANAGER'S KNOWLEDGE AND, UH, CONSENT.
UH, AGAIN, THAT IS ALL OF THESE ITEMS ARE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER AS IT IS, BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO POTENTIALLY, UM, UH, CODIFIED THEM IN OUR RULES OF COUNCIL.
SO IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER BRADSHAW? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
SO IN THE INSTANCE, LET'S SAY I'M NEEDING SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED REGARDING SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA ITEM.
THE PROTOCOL FOR PER THIS WOULD BE FOR ME TO SEND AN EMAIL TO, UH, SCOTT OR ONE OF THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS, NOT TO THE DIRECT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OR WHOEVER'S ITEM IS BEING SPONSORED AND ALLOW ONE TO TWO BUSINESS DAYS FOR THEM TO RESPOND.
SO I'VE HAD THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD BE IN OR OUT.
I COULD SEE WHY BEING ABLE TO INCLUDE DEPARTMENT HEADS WOULD, UH, WOULD MAKE SENSE, BUT THE, THE, AS IT RELATES TO AGENDA ITEMS, THE REASON WHY WE MOVED THE AGENDA POSTING TO THURSDAY, CAUSE IT USED TO BE ON FRIDAY.
YOU WOULDN'T GET A POSTED AGENDA UNTIL SOMETIMES FRIDAY AT 5, 6, 7 PM.
AND THEN THE WEEKEND COMES AND ALL STAFF IS UNAVAILABLE ANYWAY.
AND SO IT'S NOT UNTIL MONDAY THAT STAFF GETS ALL THE EMAILS, UH, FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AND THEY PROCEED FROM THERE, BUT YOU JUST DON'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF TIME MOVING THE AGENDA TO THURSDAY GIVES FRIDAY, UH, AND THEN MONDAY AND THEN THE DAY TUESDAY.
SO THERE'S THREE BUSINESS DAYS WHERE ANY QUESTION THAT'S POSED SHOULD BE RESPONDED TO.
BUT GENERALLY OUR IMPRESSION, MY IMPRESSION HAS BEEN THAT, UH, STAFF'S RESPONSES, UH, ARE QUITE TIMELY.
BUT WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS EXPECT THAT IF WE EMAIL SOMEONE AT 6:00 PM ON FRIDAY, THAT THEY SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO RESPOND IF THEY DO THAT'S, THAT'S A PERK, BUT WE JUST SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT AS AN EXPECTATION IS, IS MY THOUGHT.
SO I'M OPEN TO WHETHER WE WANT TO KEEP DEPARTMENT HEADS IN.
SO THAT WAY, IF YOU'RE WANTING TO EMAIL THE CHIEF OR WHOEVER SO LONG AS THE REST OF IT IS IN PLACE, THEN I THINK THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WOULD BE PROBABLY OKAY WITH THAT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO STRAIGHT TO THEM MOST LIKELY ANYWAY, IN MOST OF THE CASES.
SO, YOU KNOW, YEAH, I THINK THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE INCLUDED AS LONG AS WE'RE SEEING AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, SCOTT HIMSELF, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
UM, SO I AGREE THE POINT NUMBER ONE, NUMBER THREE, AND NUMBER FOUR.
UM, WE ARE ALL VERY AWARE OF HOW BC SCOTT IS ALL THE TIME AND I WILL NOT COME LANE BECAUSE HE ALWAYS GETS BACK WITH ME REALLY QUICK.
HOWEVER, UM, I, THESE, I, I THINK THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE DELEGATING IN HAVING FOR US TO GO TO HIM AND THEN FOR HIM TO SEND THE MESSAGE TO SOMEBODY ELSE THAT I NEED THIS INFORMATION FOR AN ITEM IN THE AGENDA.
IT IS BASICALLY WHAT I MENTIONED TO HIM MICROMANAGING.
UM, IF WE CAN JUST EMAIL EITHER THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS AND DIRECTORS TO OBTAIN INFORMATION, AND I WILL ALWAYS CC SCOTT BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS DONE IT.
I BELIEVE THAT HE'S REASONABLE.
I DON'T WANT TO REVIEW THE AGENDA ON A FRIDAY NIGHT OR A SATURDAY WHEN IT'S THE TIME THAT I HAVE OFF TO REALLY DEDICATE THIS AND REQUEST SOMETHING.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET IT UNTIL MONDAY.
AND I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THAT.
SO, AND MOST OF THE TIME HE REPLIES TO ME REALLY QUICKLY, BUT THEN WE'RE ALL GONNA PUT PRESSURE ON HIM, UM, BY, BY JUST LIKE MESSAGING HIM FIRST.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE BEING LIMITED TO THE COMMUNICATION WE CAN HAVE WITH STAFF LATELY.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST PUTTING THE CHERRY ON TOP, SO, OKAY.
SO TO CLARIFY, POINT NUMBER TWO DOES NOT RE REQUIRE YOU TO MAKE REQUESTS OF THE CITY MANAGER.
IT INCLUDES YOU CAN'T MAKE REQUESTS FROM ANYONE EXCEPT FOR THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY, SECRETARY, OR AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
AND THEN WE COULD ALSO STILL ADD DEPARTMENT HEADS IN.
CAUSE I JUST THINK THAT'S, I THINK IT'S TOO RESTRICTIVE UNLESS WE ADD DEPARTMENT HEADS.
UH, SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR TYPICAL CUSTOMARY EMAIL.
IF YOU'RE WANTING TO ASK, IF WE ADD DEPARTMENT HEADS BACK IN, IF YOU WANT TO ASK THE CHIEF A QUESTION ABOUT HIS ITEM OR LEON OR HARPER, WHOEVER YOU JUST HAVE TO CC SCOTT.
BUT THE MAIN SECTION THERE IS THAT IF IT'S SORT OF THE EXPECTATION OF COUNCIL, THAT, THAT SCOTT HAS THE DISCRETION TO DECIDE HOW
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QUICKLY THINGS GET RESPONDED TO AND THAT, SO THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF PROTECTION IN THERE IN, IN THE EVENT THAT THE, UM, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING SO MANY REQUESTS OR THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH A CERTAIN QUESTION OR A LINE OF QUESTIONING THAT, THAT ULTIMATELY THE CHOICE THERE IS, IS GOING TO BE THE CITY MANAGER WHO DECIDES HOW QUICKLY THAT QUESTION GETS RESPONDED TO WHAT ORDER OF, UH, WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE FOR, UH, FOR RESPONDING.UH, AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT A RESPONSE IS WARRANTED AT ALL OR NOT.
CAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS, UH, WARRANTED.
IT SHOULDN'T BE AN EXPECTATION.
IT'S CERTAINLY NOWHERE IN THE CHARTER THAT THE, THAT IF WE EMAIL STAFF THAT THAT STAFF IS REQUIRED TO RESPOND TO US.
IN FACT, THE CHARTER VERY MUCH IMPLIES THAT WE, BUT ONE EMPLOYEE AND WE ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN HAVE ONE, WE HAVE ONE SEVENTH OF ONE EMPLOYEE.
AND SO IT IS ULTIMATELY THE CITY MANAGER WHO HAS TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS ABOUT HOW THE FLOW OF INFORMATION BETWEEN STAFF AND THE COUNCIL.
AND HE ALREADY HAS THAT EXPECTATION.
IT'S HIS, IT'S HIS, IT'S HIS BURDEN, FRANKLY, UH, TO MANAGE THAT FLOW OF INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO EMPOWER AND, AND, UH, AS IT RELATES TO MICROMANAGING, THAT'S MR. SELLERS CAN ANSWER FOR HIMSELF, WHETHER HE BELIEVES THAT THIS POLICY, UH, WOULD GIVE HIM, YOU KNOW, UM, A BETTER ABILITY TO MANAGE, UH, THE, UH, THE STAFF OR WHETHER OR NOT THE CURRENT POLICY OR THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE CURRENTLY GOING IS, IS OKAY.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND ON THAT QUESTION, UH, IT DOES ACTUALLY SOMEWHAT LINE UP WITH, WITH OUR INTERNAL DIRECTION AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY CONCERN TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND I BELIEVE YOU WERE ADDRESSING IT HERE, IS THAT ANY QUOTE DIRECTION ALWAYS COME FROM THE COUNCIL AS A BODY, UH, AND NEVER AS AN INDIVIDUAL TO ANY MEMBER OF STAFF DEPARTMENT HEAD ACM INCLUDED.
SO EMAILS THAT HAVE SOME SORT OF DIRECTIVE, UH, SHOULD JUST BE DISALLOWED THAT DIRECTION SHOULD COME HERE AS A BODY.
UH, BUT OTHERWISE THE, THE PROCEDURE WE HAVE AT THE CITY AND, AND HAVE HAD FOR MANY YEARS IS, UH, COUNCIL CAN INTERACT WITH STAFF, UH, AS LONG AS I'M AWARE OF THAT INTERACTION.
AND I ACTUALLY VERY MUCH APPRECIATE HAVING AN ACM AND DEPARTMENT HEAD AWARE OF THAT INTERACTION AS WELL.
IF THAT STAFF MEMBER IS UNDERNEATH THEM.
IT ALL GOES BACK TO THAT FLOW CHART.
IT JUST GOES BACK TO YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND.
THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, I'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH, WITH, UH, PARKS OR MARIANNA.
I'M COPYING JERRY, I'M COPYING YOU.
ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CHIEF.
I'M COPYING JAMES, I'M COPYING YOU IF ANYTHING HAS TO DO WITH ECONOMICS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF I HAVE TO DEPRESS I'LL COPY AMBER, I'LL COPY YOU JUST FOLLOWING THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, FOLLOWING THAT ROSTER THAT THEY GAVE US.
AND THEN THAT WAY ALL BASES ARE COVERED.
CITY MANAGERS ARE AWARE IF SCOTT CAN'T GET BACK TO ME, AT LEAST SOMEBODY WILL, OKAY.
IT'S JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE, REAL EASY, JUST FOLLOW THE FLOW CHART.
AND THEN YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN TO WHO ARE IN THOSE AREAS.
ANY QUESTIONS YOU NEED, LOOK AT IT ON FRIDAY OR SATURDAY, THE AGENDA ITEMS, ASK A QUESTION, SEND IT AN EMAIL, COPY YOUR JCM AND YOUR CITY MANAGER.
AND ONE OF THEM WILL GET BACK TO YOU PROBABLY MAYBE SUNDAY, MAYBE ON MONDAY MORNING, YOU HAVE THAT POLICE 24 HOURS TO REVIEW.
SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER READY FOR TUESDAY NIGHT'S MEETING.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SECTION 4.05 STATES, AS FAR AS PROHIBITIONS.
UM, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT WE CAN DIRECT, BUT WHAT IT MEANS IS, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL NOT SHALL DEAL WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONS OF THE CITY SOLELY THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER AND OTHER COUNCIL APPOINTEES AS APPROPRIATE AND SHALL NOT GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGERS, SUBORDINATES EITHER PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY.
SO THIS DOES NOT EVEN ADDRESS BASIC COMMUNICATION.
THIS ADDRESSES, MANAGERIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS AS WELL AS DIRECTION.
SO IT'S KIND OF CONCERNING FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE HAD MAJOR ISSUES OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS WITH EMAILS, NOT BEING TIMELY, JUST TO GET SOME BASIC INFORMATION.
AND SO I, I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THESE ONE BY ONE.
UM, IF, IF YOU, IF I MAY, SO NUMBER ONE, I AGREE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY SINCE IT'S IN THE CHARTER, BUT, UM, I HAVE NO ARGUMENTS WITH IT.
UH, FOR NUMBER TWO, UH, THE CHARTER DOES NOT OUTLINE
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WHO COUNSEL MAY REQUEST INFORMATION FROM.SO WHY IS THIS LIMITED? ALL THE AFRA MENTIONED ARE DEFINED AS OFFICERS OF THE CHARTER, JUST THE SAME AS DIRECTORS.
THIS WILL CREATE EXTRA WORK FOR THE ACM AS WELL AS OUR CITY MANAGER.
UM, THE REQUEST WILL BE IN THE FORM OF AN EMAIL, WHICH THE CITY MANAGER WILL WE SEND TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
AND IN ALL INSTANCES, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE COPIED.
I AGREE, A THOUSAND PERCENT, I THINK THE CITY MANAGERS SHOULD ALWAYS BE CC'D AS WELL AS ANY KIND OF UPDATE IF THERE IS A MEETING GIVEN, UM, APPROPRIATE STAFF THAT'S UH, SO I GUESS THE REST OF IT IS IN, AND IN ALL INSTANCES, THE CITY MANAGER SHALL BE COPIED PERIOD, APPROPRIATE STAFF.
AND THEN MY QUESTION IS TO FIND APPROPRIATE STAFF SHALL ACCOMMODATE AND RESPOND TO COUNCIL REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION.
SO, UM, I THINK SOMETIMES THAT COULD ALLOW FOR SOME DISCRIMINATORY ACTIONS BEING AS, UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL OF MY EMAILS THAT WENT, UM, DAYS WITHOUT BEING ANSWERED AND EVEN A WEEK, UM, EVEN AFTER THE INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY MANAGER, IT TOOK AN EXTRA COUPLE OF DAYS TO PROVIDE TO ME.
UM, THE COUNCIL MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS, UM, COUNSEL SHALL AVOID, UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SHALL AVOID, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST AVOID PER THE CHARTER GIVING DIRECTION.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO, INSTEAD OF COUNCIL SHALL AVOID, UH, COUNCIL, I WOULD YOU SAY DOES NOT GIVE DIRECTION.
UM, SO AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THAT NUMBER THREE IS REPETITIVE AND IT'S THE SAME AS NUMBER ONE.
AND IT ONLY RELEVANT TO STAFF NUMBER FOUR, ALL CITY OR ALL COUNCIL REQUESTS TO ME AND ATTEND MEETINGS WITH STAFF WILL BE WITH THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF THE MANAGER, UM, THAT I FEEL LIKE IT COULD BE DISCRIMINATORY.
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH IN A TIMELY MANNER AND IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UM, AND SO I, AGAIN, I FELT LIKE I SHOULD BE ABLE TO WRITE PEREZ AND CC SCOTT AND REQUEST A MEETING AND THEN PEREZ WOULD THEN SEND A REPORT TO SCOTT, UM, TELLING HIM ABOUT WHAT WE DISCUSSED.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF ALL THIS MICROMANAGING IS NECESSARY.
I THINK AT SOME POINT I WAS GOING TO JUST VOTE YES FOR THIS, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO PUT AN DULY RESPONSIBILITY ON THE MA ON THE MANAGER, WHICH WILL SURELY SET HIM UP TO FAIL.
SO I THINK IT'S A LOT, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE.
I WAS SHOWING YOUR COLORS THERE.
I WAS GOING TO SEE IF HE COULD HANDLE IT.
YOU JUST ASKED HIM, HE SAID HE COULD DO IT.
SO, UM, I CHALLENGED THAT AND IF YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, I SAY, LET'S DO IT.
UM, HOWEVER, I, I, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY GET AN EMAIL STATING THAT I AM TRYING TO DESTROY SOMEBODY PERSONALLY, BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS I DON'T, I TRY TO KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL IN ALL OF MY EMAILS AND IT ALL MY CORRESPONDENCE.
UM, I JUST WISH I COULD RECEIVE THAT SAME PRETTY GOOD.
UM, SO THERE'S SOME INTERESTING CONVERSATION HERE.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT AND WHAT I SEE THAT A LOT OF THIS LANGUAGE TRIES TO DO IS NOT ONLY, UH, PROTECT COUNSEL, PROTECT SCOTT, BUT IT ALSO TO PROTECT STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU EMAIL, THEY STAFF MEMBER.
I'M NOT SAYING ANYBODY, PARTICULARLY JUST COUNCIL MEMBER X, UH, EMAIL STAFF, CERTAINLY CCS APPROPRIATE PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T GET BACK TO YOU IN A TIMELY MANNER.
YOU SAY YOU EMAILED THEM FRIDAY EVENING.
I DON'T EXPECT ANYBODY OTHER THAN THE CITY MANAGER TO RESPOND TO ME ON THE WEEKEND.
THAT IS, AND IF THEY DO MAJOR KUDOS TO YOU, BUT IT IS NOT AN EXPECTATION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN HERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY DOING YOUR THING.
THE ONLY PERSON THAT I EVER EVER EXPECTED THAT FROM, BECAUSE HE HAS MADE THAT EXPECTATION IS MR. SELLERS.
SO I HEAR YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT I SAID THAT EXPECTATION HAS NEVER BEEN FROM ME THAT IF I EMAIL A STAFF MEMBER OTHER THAN SCOTT ON A WEEKEND, THAT I WILL GET A RESPONSE FROM THAT.
UH, SECONDLY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AND THEN IF YOU DON'T GET A RESPONSE BY EMAILING A, UH, STAFF MEMBER, THERE'S NOT OUR STAFF MEMBER, THEN YOU MIGHT GET BY THAT.
AND THEN YOU WANT TO HOLD THAT, THAT STAFF MEMBER ACCOUNTABLE, THAT'S NOT OUR ROLE TO HOLD THAT STAFF MEMBER ACCOUNTABLE THAT IS ONLY SCOTT.
AND SO IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND THE BOND COUNCIL.
THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT I HOLD ACCOUNTABLE TO
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ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS.IF A STAFF MEMBER X DOESN'T DO SOMETHING THAT IS EXPECTED OF THIS BODY, I'M NOT HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
IT IS ULTIMATELY THE CITY MANAGER WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEM NOT MEETING THE EXPECTATION OF THIS COUNCIL OR WHATEVER THAT IS.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING ABOUT MICROMANAGING, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE CERTAINLY, I'VE BEEN A MANAGER I'VE DEALT WITH MANAGERS, I'VE READ ALL KINDS OF LEADERSHIP MANAGEMENT BOOKS.
THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE AS WE HAVE ONE STAFF MEMBER AND THAT IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT WE CAN HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHERE I JUST KIND OF, I, I KIND OF PUSH BACK ON THAT NARRATIVE OF THE MICROMANAGING BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE'S THE ONLY ONE.
THE CITY MANAGER IS THE ONLY ONE WE CAN HOLD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THINGS NOT HAPPENING.
SO IF HE WANTS TO BE A PART OF EVERY LITTLE CONVERSATION AND KNOW EVERYTHING GOING ON, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY HE'S THE ONE THAT WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE HE WILL BE THE ONE THAT I WILL HOLD ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THINGS DON'T GO EITHER MY WAY OR WOULD THIS COUNCIL'S WAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THESE ARGUMENTS IS WHO REALLY DO WE GET TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE MAY PRETEND.
ONE THING THAT REALLY STICKS OUT TO ME IS, UM, THE PART THAT SAYS, UH, DIRECTION WILL COME, JUST WILL COME FROM THIS BODY.
AND I WILL REMEMBER THAT THAT DIRECTION COMES FROM THIS BODY WHEN IT COMES TO EVALUATIONS OF STAFF, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, DIRECTING STAFF, IT HAS TO COME FROM THE SEVEN OF US, IF ONE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER, WHETHER I DON'T CARE WHAT THEIR TITLE IS, MAYOR PRO TEM, I DON'T CARE IS GIVING DIRECTION.
WHEN IT COMES TO STAFF TO EVALUATIONS, DORSA COUNSELORS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE, MOVING FORWARD.
BECAUSE IF WE IMPLEMENT THIS, THIS HOLDS EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE, IT HOLDS THE SEVEN OF US ACCOUNTABLE.
IT HOLDS YOU ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL.
DOES IT CUTS MY PARSLEY? I WON'T TAKE LONG.
SO I WANTED TO SAY WHEN I ASKED INFORMATION ON FRIDAY, I MEANT THE FRIDAY PROBABLY BEFORE A MEETING.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON NOT WORKING ON THE WEEKEND.
YEAH, NO, I HAVE DONE IT BEFORE.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN PLEASE, TO ME HOW THE PROCESS IS GOING TO LOOK JUST SO I MAKE THAT I DON'T MESS UP.
SO IF I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT FINANCES, WILL I CCU AND ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION TO YOU? AND THEN THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IN CHARGE OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND PEREZ, OR JUST YOU AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ASKING FOR THAT INFORMATION? HOW DOES THAT, SO MY ANSWER WOULD BE YOU WOULD HAVE DISCRETION.
SO IT'S ASSUMING WE ADD DEPARTMENT HEADS BACK IN, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD.
THEN, IF YOU HAD A QUESTION THAT YOU KNEW, THAT WAS JUST A STRAIGHT UP QUESTION FOR
THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER BOOM IT'S DONE.
HE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A RESPONSE VERY QUICKLY.
SOMEONE LIKE PERVEZ EMAILS BACK WHEN HE'S ON VACATION.
MOST OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS AND OUR CITY MANAGER, NOT ONLY DO THEY EMAIL BACK ON THE WEEKENDS, EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO, THEY EMAIL WHILE THEY'RE ON VACATION, THAT WE HAVE A PRETTY AMAZING STAFF IN THAT REGARD.
BUT SO THE POLICY WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT.
BUT IF YOU KIND OF ARE THINKING LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A MORE COMPLICATED QUESTION, OR IT'S A BROADER QUESTION, AND STAFF'S GOING TO NEED SOME DIRECTION ON HOW TO RESPOND.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU EMAIL SCOTT DIRECTLY AND SAY, HEY, I HAVE THIS QUESTION.
SO THAT, AND THIS POLICY, THE APPROPRIATE STAFF, THE WHO DEFINES APPROPRIATE STAFF IS THE CITY MANAGER AND ONLY THE CITY MANAGER.
AND IT COULD BE THE CASE THAT HE PUTS THE PROJECT MANAGER, LIKE WITH THE CASE OF TERSE, NUMBER TWO ANALYSIS, SOMEONE THAT YOU, DON'T NOT EVEN THINKING ABOUT TO GO AND TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE, OR HE MAY GIVE IT TO SCOTT, OR IT MAY BE JAMES, OR HE MAY CAN ANSWER IT.
AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING ONLY HE CAN ANSWER, BUT THAT WOULD JUST GENERALLY BE THE FEEDBACK.
BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO YOU SO LONG AS THE CITY MANAGERS INCLUDED.
SO WHAT HAS CHANGED? CAUSE NORMALLY THAT'S THE PROCEDURE I USE OUR CCU AND THE DIRECTOR AND ASK MY QUESTION AND JUST WAIT FOR WHENEVER YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO ANSWER.
SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S CHANGING, BUT NOT MUCH.
IT'S MAINLY JUST CLARIFYING THAT THAT IS THE PROCEDURE AND, AND NOT LOT.
AND THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS THE ONE IN CHARGE FOR ANY DISCRETION AS TO HOW, HOW
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TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS COMING FROM, FROM THE STATISTICS.IT'S THE CITY MANAGER WHO ALL RIGHT WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECTION J OF THE ITEM 36 AND ADD DEPARTMENT HEADS ON NUMBER TWO.
THE MOTION IS MADE BY CUSTOMER PARTIALLY THAT WE APPROVE, UH, UH, SECTION J, UH, AND, UM, UH, ALSO ADDING DEPARTMENT HEADS TO THAT LIST AND A SECOND MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SCOTT MARRIAGE IS WHEN I CLARIFY.
SO IN MY DISCRETION, IF THE REQUEST DOES REQUIRE OR WILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH TIME FEELS LIKE IT'S IN THE FORM OF DIRECTION.
DO I HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING AND DISCUSS THAT AS A WHOLE, AS A BODY? ALL RIGHT.
THE POINT IS FOR YOU TO HAVE DISCRETION ON HOW TO RESPOND PERIOD.
SO RESPONSE, INITIAL RESPONSE TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNSEL, RIGHT? IT SAYS INITIAL RESPONSE, AND THERE'S A SHELL THERE.
SO INITIAL RESPONSE IN ONE TO TWO BUSINESS DAYS, BUT YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION ON THE FORM AND FUNCTION IN THAT RESPONSE.
I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT POINT.
UH, ONE SMALL LITTLE FRIENDLY THING HERE.
SO FROM TIME TO TIME, THERE'S A, FOR EXAMPLE, EARLIER TODAY, UH, I ALMOST ASKED THAT OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER TO, UH, WHEN WE HAVE A WOMEN'S VETERANS DAY TO MAKE SURE WE GET A POST ON THE AGENDA.
WE'VE ALL KIND OF DONE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, COULD YOU MAKE SURE TO DO THAT? BUT IT WASN'T EXPRESSLY DONE IN EMOTION.
SO NUMBER THREE WILL REQUIRE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD ADD SOME LO A LITTLE BIT OF LANGUAGE TO SAY, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM THE REST OF THE COUNCIL ON SOMETHING THEN THAT WOULD GO FORWARD OR DO DOES, IF WE'RE FINE WITH BEING HARD LINE AND SAYING, EVEN SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, CAN WE THROW THAT ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE? WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS.
THAT HAPPENS WITH ALL OF US, A LITTLE, LITTLE COMMENTS OR REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER, RIGHT.
CAN YOU SEND US THE PRESENTATION FROM THAT'S DIRECTION TECHNICALLY? YEAH, I HEAR YA.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY TO, I I'VE CONSIDERED THAT FOR A WHILE.
THERE'S NO REAL WAY TO CODIFY THAT THE ANSWER IS THE CITY MANAGER TAKES DIRECTION BECAUSE THAT'S THE RULE.
AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION LIKE THAT, THAT YOU ASK, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST WOULD SAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING CITY MANAGER HAS TO BE THE ONE.
AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, IF C MANAGER HAS AN ISSUE WITH A REQUEST THAT WAS MADE BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, THEN WE'LL HEAR ABOUT IT, I SUPPOSE.
BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
I GUESS YOU COULD JUST SAY SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR, I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE DISCRETION.
I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD DO ANYWAY.
YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER.
MAYBE IT'S A REMINDER TO ME THAT WE NEED SOMETHING.
THAT'S, I'LL GET THAT THROUGH.
SO MAYBE ASK IT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION VERSUS VERSUS A DIRECTIVE.
LIKE, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD GET THIS ON THE WEBSITE? WHEREAS THE REASON THAT, THAT, THAT I WROTE THAT THE STAFF SHALL NOT CONSTRUE ANY QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS FROM COUNCIL AS DIRECTION IS TO, TO KIND OF HELP WITH STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING LIKE, HEY, CAN WE GET A POST ON JUNETEENTH NEXT WEEK? STAFF IS NOT TO CONSTRUE THAT AS DIRECTION.
IF THAT REQUEST COMES IN AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, YEAH, I'M GOING TO DO THAT.
THEN IT'S NOT TO SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE INFORMAL CONVERSATION ABOUT TOPICS, BUT AS IT RELATES TO DIRECTION, CITY MANAGERS, THE ONE WE HAVE PROTESTS, JUST ONE LAST COMMENT.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THESE CHANGES WERE MADE BY THE COUNCIL.
AND THESE CHANGES COULD BE CHANGED AGAIN BY COUNCIL.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT WORKING.
SO WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT PREROGATIVE.
SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THAT.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO GO AHEAD AND SUB AND MAKE A MOTION FOR, TO APPROVE THIS IN ITS ENTIRETY WITH THE AMENDED SECTIONS? THAT'LL BE NEXT.
THERE'LL BE ONE MORE VOTE AFTER THIS TO INCLUDE THE SCRIBNER'S ERRORS.
SO CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE, BEFORE WE MAKE THAT FINAL VOTE, CAN WE GO BACK TO ITEM SIX? CAUSE WE, I DON'T THINK WE TOOK ANY ACTION AT ALL.
UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO STRIKE THE MAYOR OR CHAIR MAY INTERRUPT THE SPEAKER TO CALL THE QUESTION IN EITHER CASE, IF THE QUESTION IS PROPERLY CALLED, WELL, THERE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR ALREADY FOR THIS.
AND THEN IF YOU WANT, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, WE CAN.
SO THIS IS JUST AS IT RELATES TO SECTION J IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? AND THAT INCLUDES THE AMENDMENT TO ADD DEPARTMENT HEADS BACK INTO IT.
SO I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR EV UH, TO TAKE, UH, ALL OF IT, INCLUDING THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE PLUS THE SCRIBNER'S ERRORS.
BUT IF YOU CUSTOMER FLOURISHED GAL THAT YOU MAKE THAT MOTION ON THE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, FOR NUMBER SIX, TO
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STRIKE, UH, THE ADDITION, THE MAYOR OR CHAIR MAY INTERRUPT THE SPEAKER TO CALL THE QUESTION IN EITHER CASE, IF THE QUESTION IS PROPERLY CALLED AND BELIEVE IN BY ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER OR LEAVE IT, LIKE REMOVE THE BY ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOESN'T REALLY BELONG THERE ANYWAYS.
SO TO APPROVE, TO DENY THE FIRST ONE AND APPROVE THE SECOND ONE.
THE MOTION IS MADE TO STRIKE THE, UH, LANGUAGE FOR, UH, UH, POINT NUMBER SIX.
IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, MOTION SECOND.
YEAH, THAT, THAT MOTION IS MADE.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? SO I CERTAINLY I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS FROM MY POSITION.
UM, I UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WANTS TO BE ADDED, BUT I'M NOT A FAN OF BEING INTERRUPTED.
UM, AS, AS I'M NOT A FAN OF THE TIME LIMITS ON THIS.
CAUSE I WANT TO GET THROUGH MY THOUGHTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IS, I GUESS I'M JUST PERSONALLY THINKING ABOUT MYSELF AND I'M, IF I'M AT THE FIRST TIME I'M SPEAKING ABOUT SOMETHING, I'M GOING THROUGH SOME QUESTIONS.
I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION FROM MY COLLEAGUE HERE ON THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN SUPPORTIVE, NOT ADDING THAT TO THEIR OKAY.
WELL, MY ONLY RESPONSE IS TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, IS THAT THE MAYOR OR THE CHAIR IN ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO INTERRUPT THE SPEAKER.
UH, AND THAT IS A PRIVILEGED IN ORDER TO PREVENT, UM, UH, FILIBUSTERING AND ALSO TO MAINTAIN CONTROL THE MEETING.
CALLING THE POINT, NUMBER TWO IS CALLING THE QUESTION DOES NOT SHUT THE SPEAKER DOWN.
IT, IT REQUIRES A SECOND AND THEN IT'S A ROLL CALL, VOTE TO SHUT IT DOWN.
SO THE SHUTTING DOWN OF THE SPEECH, THE SPEECH IS THAT THE DIRECTION OF THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL, IT'S JUST NON-DEBATABLE AND, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO I, I WOULD SUBMIT THAT I, THAT I PROBABLY HAVE THAT RIGHT, WHETHER IT'S ADDED OR NOT, BUT I WAS GOING THROUGH IT AND WANTED TO CLARIFY.
I KNEW THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WASN'T APPRECIATED HERE, BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WHY AS TO WHY I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED, UH, NOT ANYONE CAN DO IT, BUT THE MAYOR, THE CHAIR CAN, WE DID HAVE A SITUATION HERE WHERE THAT TOOK PLACE LITERALLY TODAY, UH, IN THIS MEETING, UH, IT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE COUNCIL.
HAD IT NOT BEEN, THE QUESTIONING WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY CONTINUED.
AND THAT'S JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH.
SO, BUT THERE IS A MOTION A SECOND.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, SO, SO A YAY VOTE, UH, STRIKES IT BACK OUT.
UH, NEVO LEAVES IT IN, UH, A ROLL CALL VOTE, UH, YEA STRIKES IT.
SO CAUSE HER MOTION WAS TO STRIKE IT.
BRADSHAW, ALISON PARSLEY FLORES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, RULES OF COUNSEL, INCLUDING SCRIBNER'S ERRORS AND ALL AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, INCLUDED.
SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEAMS, THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
[36. Consider and possible action to approve a resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas, Amending Resolution Number 1273 and Restating the City of Kyle Rules of City Council. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.[VIII. Executive Session]
WE DO HAVE EXEC.SO WE'LL GO IN ON JUST THAT, THAT LAST ITEM.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5, 5, 1 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME AS DEEMED NECESSARY.
DURING THIS MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL MADE CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5, 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING TOPICS PENDING LITIGATION TO COMP OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION TO, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 5, 5 1 0 7 1 CAUSE NUMBER 22 DASH 0 8 7 3.
THE STATE OF TEXAS X, L X RAIL 1200 SOUTH OLD STAGECOACH ROAD, LLC VERSUS CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS.
[38. Take action on items discussed in Executive Session.]
ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER[03:40:01]
AT 1145.THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NOW I MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, TO PURSUE AN ETHICS ADVISORY OPINION RELATED TO THE ITEM THAT WE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO MOTION TO ADJOURN.