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ONE, UH,

[I.  Call Meeting to Order]

AT THE TIME IS 7:00 PM.

IT IS TUESDAY, JUNE 21ST.

AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WOULD ALL.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL HERE.

ELLISON FLORES, KALE HERE, BRADSHAW HERE, PARSLEY HERE, TIBIA.

ALL RIGHT, ALL MEMBERS PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM NEXT STEP APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[II.  Approval of Minutes]

MAYOR LIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP MEETINGS, MAY 16TH SPECIAL MEETINGS MAY 17TH, REGULAR MEETING 17TH AND SPECIAL MEETING FOR JUNE 7TH.

ALL RIGHT, MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER.

TOBIA SECOND.

AND BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS POSTED AS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT UP

[III.  Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

CITIZEN COMMENTS.

UH, AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM.

PLEASE DO.

SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THOSE TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.

UH, FIRST UP HANAFORD GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS HONDA FORD, AND I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT IN OPPOSITION TO AGENDA ITEM OF 39, WHICH SEEKS TO BAN POLITICAL SIGNS AND PARTISAN TENTS AT ANY CITY EVENTS.

I'VE BEEN AN ACTIVE RESIDENT OF KYLE FOR SIX YEARS, BUT I HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT VITAL PERSONAL CONNECTIONS WITHIN OUR CITY EVENTS CAN HAVE ON OUR ALLOWING OUR CITIZENS TO STRENGTHEN THEIR VOICE YEARS AGO.

I WAS UNTETHERED FROM MY COMMUNITY UNTIL I HAPPENED ON A FEW EVENTS AT KYLE MARKET DAYS, AND I FOUND BRIGHT, ENERGETIC NEIGHBORS WHO WERE USING THEIR VENUE TO AMPLIFY THEIR DESIRE TO CONNECT PEOPLE THROUGH CIVIC DISCUSSION AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HELPING ME GET MY VOTER REGISTRATION UPDATED TO REFLECT MY NEW KYLE ADDRESS.

UH, SINCE THEN THEIR PASSION HAS BEEN CONTAGIOUS.

AND NOW I FIND MYSELF PRIVILEGED TO CARRY FORWARD THAT LEGACY IN PARTICIPATING IN THOSE SAME VOTER REGISTRATION TABLES, BOTH AT CITY EVENTS AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, I STAFFED THE KYLE BUDA AREA DEMOCRATS TENT, WHICH WAS BY THE WAY, AN INSPIRED SUCCESS FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED AT OUR PAST CITIES, JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION.

UM, SPEAKING OF WHICH I NOW ADDRESS COUNCIL WOMAN PARSLEY.

UM, I'M AWARE THAT IT WAS YOU SPECIFICALLY WHO PLACES ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO SEE YOU AT THE EVENT, JUST IN PASSING.

I KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY SPEAK, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S TIME, YOU COULD PERHAPS GIVE MORE CONTEXT FOR THE LEVELS OF DISCOMFORT THAT YOU EXPRESSED WITH ME AND MY FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS REGISTERING PEOPLE TO VOTE AT OUR TENT.

I MEAN, I'M A VOLUNTEER REFUGEE DESERT REGISTRAR, AND I DON'T EVER PROCEED MY QUESTIONS OF, UH, CAN I GET YOU REGISTERED TO VOTE WITH, WAIT, ARE YOU A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN? I'M REQUIRED TO REGISTER EVERYBODY.

AND I DO SO GLADLY, UH, REGARDLESS WHETHER OR NOT A TABLE IS PARTISAN OR NOT.

I WORRY THAT OUR COMMUNITIES WILL LOSE THEIR VOICE AND THEIR ABILITY TO CONNECT.

IF THESE TABLES ARE BANNED.

I ALSO, FOR THAT MATTER, WORRY ABOUT OUR CANDIDATES, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL, ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE AFFECTED IF THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN CITY SPONSORED EVENTS WITH POLITICAL SCIENCE AND CAMPAIGN LITERATURE.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT EVER GOING TO AGREE ON POLITICS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE ABLE TO FULLY PARTICIPATE IN CIVIC LIFE, INCLUDING REGISTERING TO VOTE, WHETHER IN PARADES OR MARKET DAY EVENTS OR OTHER CELEBRATIONS, THEY HELP BRING US TOGETHER AS AMERICANS, AMERICANS LIKE ME AND THOSE FAR LESS PRIVILEGED THAN ME CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT LOSE THIS BENEFIT.

THAT DEMOCRACY DEPENDS ON IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

NEXT UP KATE MATHIS.

GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

I AM KATE MATHIS AND I'M SPEAKING ALSO IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 39, WHICH SEEKS TO BAN POLITICAL SIGNS IN PARTISAN TENTS AT CITY, ANY CITY EVENT, I'M GOING TO READ

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SOME COMMENTS TO THE GROUP OF FRIENDS AND I CAME UP WITH, AND THEN WITH MY LAST FEW SECONDS, I'LL JUST PUT IN MY 2 CENTS AS NOT A BRAND NEW, BUT ALMOST NEW A RESIDENT OF KYLE I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW SUCH AN ORDINANCE WOULD RESTRICT RESIDENT'S ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN CIVIC EVENTS.

I BELIEVE IT COULD INFRINGE ON THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

POLITICAL PARTIES ARE PART OF AMERICA'S RICH HISTORY INGRAINED IN OUR CIVIC LIFE.

SINCE OUR COUNTRY'S FOUNDING, I BELIEVE THAT POLITICAL PARTIES AND CANDIDATES ADD VALUE TO OUR PUBLIC DISCOURSE AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN CIVIC EVENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, OUR HAYES COUNTY REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF PARTICIPATING IN THE KYLE FOUNDER'S PARADE.

THEY PARTICIPATE WITH GROUPS OF AREA RESIDENTS WEARING POLITICAL SHIRTS AND FLOATS PLASTERED WITH POLITICAL SIGNS.

THESE ARE ENJOYABLE EVENTS FOR ALL RESIDENTS, EVEN IF THEY DON'T SUPPORT WHATEVER PARTY FLOAT IS GOING BY THEM.

WE GATHER AS AMERICANS TO SUPPORT THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, TO GATHER TOGETHER AND EXPRESS THEIR PREFERENCES FOR A PARTY OR CANDIDATES AT PARADES IN ANY OTHER CITY SPONSORED EVENT, PARTISAN GROUPS AND CANDIDATES SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE AT ALL CIVIC EVENTS THAT ARE OPEN TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, INCLUDING MARKET DAYS WHERE PARTISAN TENTS WOULD BE ON DISPLAY.

THERE'S NOTHING INHERENTLY OFFENSIVE OR PROVOCATIVE ABOUT A POLITICAL GROUP STAMPING, A VENDOR BOOTH THAT IS REGISTERING VOTERS, PROVIDING CANDIDATE LITERATURE AND SELLING POLITICAL MERCHANDISE.

IF SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE A PARTY OR CANDIDATE, THEY CAN SIMPLY WALK ON BY AND ENJOY THE REST OF THEIR DAY.

SO AS A FAIRLY NEW, UH, I'VE MOVED HERE ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE COVID LOCKED EVERYTHING DOWN AND I DON'T HAVE ANY FAMILY IN TOWN.

I WAS ABLE TO MEET ONE FRIEND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AT A POLITICAL SOCIAL EVENT, AND SHE BECAME MY LIFELINE TO THE WORLD OUTSIDE BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN HERE FOR YEARS AND SHE'S IN THIS ROOM AS A MATTER OF FACT, BUT SHE, UM, WAS WELL CONNECTED WITH SEVERAL LARGE GROUPS AND WAS SO SUPPORTIVE.

UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD PORTS HAPPY HOUR, UM, AT HER HOUSE EVERY WEDNESDAY.

AND THAT WAS MY MENTAL HEALTH, UM, ADDITION TO A LITTLE BIT OF FAMILY, BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN OMA CRON, UH, I'M ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE I KNOW THAT HAVEN'T HAD COVID SO I WAITED UNTIL I'M A CHRONIC DIED DOWN.

THAT'S HOW CAREFUL I WAS.

AND I STARTED GOING TO THESE LITTLE SOCIAL EVENTS, UH, MARCH, APRIL, MAY, AND THEN IN JUNE, I VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE IN OUR FIRST BOOTH EVER AT THE MARKET DAYS.

AND KYLE AT THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION.

THAT'S ABOUT THAT.

SORRY, YOUR TIME IS UP.

OKAY.

I HAD A BLAST AND I LOVE KYLE AND I DON'T WANT IT TO REPRESS OUR CITIZENS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP, LAURA LEE HARRIS.

YEAH, THAT'D BE ME.

KATIE'S TALKING ABOUT, I HIT HER JOY, MY FRIENDS AND PLUM CREEK NEIGHBORS, KATIE AND HANNAH IN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 39 AS THE CITY GROWS, DEVELOPS AND BECOMES A WONDERFUL DYNAMIC RESOURCE.

WE ARE WATCHING OUR MARKET SQUARE DEVELOPED AS WELL.

WE ARE WATCHING THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC DISCOURSE BLOSSOM AND WE ARE DOING IT SO WITH GREAT JOY.

UM, I TOO WAS AT THE ISRAELI ANT THIS AT, UM, THE JUNETEENTH EVENT.

I TOO AM A VOTER DEPUTY REGISTRAR, AND I WAS REGISTERING PEOPLE TO VOTE.

IT WAS A REMARKABLE EVENT.

PEOPLE OF BOTH PARTIES STOPPED BY OUR BOOTH.

WE HAD DISCOURSE WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE REPUBLICAN AND ASKING US QUESTIONS AND IT WAS, IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

I ALSO HAVE BEEN AT OTHER EVENTS, SUCH AS THE HALLOWEEN FESTIVAL, UM, THAT WAS DOWN ON MARKET SQUARE, WHERE THE CANDIDATES WERE OUT.

THEY WERE TALKING TO PEOPLE.

UM, THIS IS SUCH A MARVELOUS WAY FOR OUR COUNCIL, OUR BOARDS, OUR CANDIDATES TO MEET THE COMMUNITY.

I WOULD REALLY HATE TO SEE ANY OF THAT LIMITED, UM,

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INCLUDING SIGNS.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE WANT TO RESTRICT HOW MANY MONTHS YOU CAN HAVE THEM UP FOR IT, BUT, UM, THEY HELP US UNDERSTAND THE CANDIDATES AND WHO'S RUNNING AND ALLOWS US TO KNOW THEM BETTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT UP DEBRA MOORE HI, MY NAME IS DEBORAH MOORE.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF KYLE SINCE I MARRIED MY HUSBAND, UH, 27 YEARS AGO.

HOWEVER, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN, UH, IN HAYES COUNTY SINCE 1876.

SO WITH THAT, I KNOW THE AREA'S GROWING.

I KNOW INFANT STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

THAT IS NOT WHY I'M HERE TODAY.

I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WE ARE BEING BLOCKED FROM OUR HOMES.

WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO OUR HOMES.

THERE'S THREE WAYS I COULD GET TO MY HOUSE.

AND TODAY I COULDN'T GET TO MY HOUSE.

UH, THEY'RE UH, LAYING NEW PIPES, WHICH IS NEEDED AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE BETTER ORGANIZED.

SO WE ARE NOT RESTRICTED FROM OUR HOMES.

I ALSO HAVE AN 87 YEAR OLD MOTHER-IN-LAW IF I WOULD'VE HAD TO CALL THE AMBULANCE TODAY, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET TO HER BECAUSE ALL THREE STREETS WERE DUG UP AND BLOCKED.

THAT IS NOT OKAY.

UM, NO CITY SUPERVISION IS OUT THERE.

I EVEN CALLED THE CITY AND SAID, WHO DO I NEED TO TALK TO? UH, THE FOREMAN ONSITE.

OKAY.

SO I DID.

HE JUST SAYS, I'M SORRY, IT'S A PLAN.

IT'S BEEN LAID OUT.

I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW I CAN HELP YOU.

UH, SO, SO I DON'T RUN OUT OF MY TIME.

I'M JUST GOING TO LIST OUT NO CITY SUPERVISION ON AN, ON THE INSTRUCTION OF THE JOB.

UH, IMPROPER PLACEMENT OF DETOUR SIGNS, BLOCKING ALL ROUTES TO HOUSES, INSTALLING NEW LINE ON PROPERTY, WITHOUT PERMISSION OR EASEMENT.

THAT WOULD BE MY PROPERTY.

UH, WE DID SIGN RIGHT OF ENTRY FOR THEM TO SURVEY THINGS BECAUSE, UH, A CREEK BED RUNS THROUGH A DRAINAGE RUNS THROUGH AND IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED OUT AND UPDATED BECAUSE OUR HOUSE HAS FLOODED TWICE.

SO YES, SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT.

SO WE SIGNED THE, UH, RIGHT OF ENTRY, BUT THEY DUG UP MY BACKYARD AND THERE WAS NO EASEMENT.

SO, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION DUDES, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO STORING THEIR EQUIPMENT IN THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY AND REPAIRING THEIR EQUIPMENT ON OUR PROPERTY.

NOBODY'S ASKED US, WE PROBABLY WOULD SAY YES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD CITIZENS.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE LIKE TO HELP PEOPLE, BUT NOBODY'S COME AND TALK TO US.

UH, THEY ALSO PUT, SO THERE IS A WATER HEIGHT, A FIRE HYDRANT AT THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THEN WITH THIS NEW THEY'RE LEAVING THAT, BUT THEN THEY PUT A NEW ONE AT THE END OF MY MOTHER-IN-LAW'S SIDEWALK, RENDERING HER SIDEWALK.

UNUSABLE, YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND IT, WALKING THE YARD AND THEN GET ON THE SIDEWALK.

OKAY.

UH, DAMAGE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY PRIOR TO THE PROJECT SAYING, HEY GUYS, THIS, THIS PROJECT'S HAPPENING.

SO BE AWARE NOR ABOUT ROAD CLOSURES.

HEY, MAKE, MAKE PREPARATION BECAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR PROPERTY.

UH, LEAVING UNMARKED HOLES IN THE ROAD.

UH, I HAD TO GO THROUGH OUR YARD AND GO AROUND BECAUSE THERE WAS LIKE A MAJOR POTHOLE.

UM, MY HUSBAND FINALLY JUST FILLED IT IN BECAUSE NOBODY WAS FIXING IT.

UH, AND THEN, UM, BASICALLY JUST COMMUNICATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IF THERE'S NO.

UM, I WAS TRYING THE ENTIRE TIME TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SUBDIVISION YOU WERE IN BASED ON ALL YOUR DESCRIPTION AT THIRD STREET, SECOND STREET SLEDGE, SOUTH CREWS ALL TIME HIGH.

AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, BUT WELL, JUST CAUSE YOU NEVER MENTIONED THAT IN ALL YOUR TIME.

SO I THINK WE, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I THINK RIGHT.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, WOULD WE BE OPPOSED TO STAFF GETTING WITH THIS RESIDENT TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN SHE JUST BROUGHT UP? YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

NEXT UP.

LATE AT NIGHT, IT'S BRIEF TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS LAILA NIGHT, UH, AND I LIVE IN KYLE AND I'VE LIVED HERE A VERY LONG TIME.

UH, HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS FIRST WITH REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM 39.

ALL OF YOU TOOK AN OATH OF OFFICE WHEREIN YOU SOLEMNLY SWORE YOU WOULD PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND

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THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

I ASSUME ALL OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY READ THE CONSTITUTION.

IT'S REALLY QUITE SHORT.

IT'S NOT A LONG READ AND TO PROHIBIT POLITICAL SIGNS OR A POLITICAL EXPRESSION IN A TRADITIONAL PUBLIC FORUM, WHICH IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED PARKS, SIDEWALKS, STREETS, ET CETERA, WOULD BE EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC AT BEST.

AND I'M CERTAIN, YOUR ATTORNEY WILL ADVISE YOU THAT CONTENT BASED REGULATIONS SUCH AS PARTISAN VERSUS NON-PARTISAN POLITICAL EXPRESSION ARE GENERALLY DEEMED PRESUMPTIVELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR A PUBLIC FORUM.

SO IT'S ALREADY LAID OUT THE CASE.

LAW IS ALREADY THERE.

I'M CONFIDENT THAT NONE OF YOU WANT TO ABRIDGE OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

SO I'M VERY CONFIDENT THIS IS GOING TO WORK OUT WELL.

HOWEVER, I AM NOT AS CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL EVER GET AROUND TO PASSING ANY KIND OF HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR OUR CITIZENS.

YOU JUST KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD ON THIS.

WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KEEP SPENDING REALLY ENORMOUS SUMS OF MONEY.

I DO APPRECIATE THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE KEEP BRINGING THIS BACK UP FOR CONVERSATION, BUT WE NEED ACTION.

AND THAT ACTION SHOULD NOT HINGE ON YOUR BUDGET, YOUR TAX RATE, BE IT M AND O OR INS OR THE, OR A ROBOT BEGIN WITH THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

THEN FIGURE THE REST OUT.

YOU'RE HERE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS.

I KNOW HOW YOU LIKE TO BLAME OUR HIGH TAXES ON THE SCHOOL TAX REC, BUT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE THAT EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN HASTE COUNTY HAS A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF $25,000.

AND I THINK Y'ALL CAN DO BETTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, NEXT UP VANESSA WESTBROOK.

WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UH, MY NAME IS VANESSA WESTBROOK.

I AM A CITIZEN OF KYLE, TEXAS, AND I AM HERE TO SAY ON JUNE 11TH AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TILL ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK THE CITY IN KYLE CAME TOGETHER AND HAD A FABULOUS EVENT OVER IN CITY PARK.

IT WAS CELEBRATING JUNE 19TH, BUT ALSO COINCIDED WITH MARKET DAY.

AND THERE WE HAD FOLKS WHO GATHERED TOGETHER WHO HAD SOMETHING IN COMMON.

THEY LIVED IN KYLE AND WE ACTUALLY HAD SOME VISITORS ALSO.

AND I'D LIKE TO SAY, WOW, IT WAS SO COOL.

I JUST WANT TO SAY IT WAS GOOD.

UM, IMAGINE WHEN I GOT HOME THAT EVENING AFTER HELPING TO TAKE STUFF DOWN AND WHATNOT, UM, AND I LOOKED ON SPECTRUM NEWS AND SAW A ANNOUNCEMENT OR A REPORT SAYING THE CITY OF CALL KICKED OFF JUNE 10TH FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE.

WOW.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE DID THEIR STUFF ON THE 18TH AND WE DID, I WAS ON THE 11TH.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE MY, UM, BEING VERY PLEASED ABOUT THAT.

NOW I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT, UM, THERE WERE A GROUP OF CITIZENS WHO CAME TOGETHER AND THEY ACTUALLY SAT AND TALKED AND SAID, WHAT, WHAT SHOULD THIS LOOK LIKE? THIS EVENT THAT THE CITY IS DOING, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS DOING, WE'RE DOING IT, THE CITY PARK AND EVERYONE WHO I CALLED TO SAY, HEY, CAN YOU COME AND BE A PART OF THIS DISCUSSION SAID, OKAY.

AND SO WE HAD TRACY SHIELD, WE HAD SHEILA HENDERSON.

WE HAD ANTHONY DAVIS, CYNTHIA BENTLEY, DEFINITE SCENARIO, MARK TREY HAND.

WELL, MAJORITY SUSAN REYNA, UM, MARCY CURL MYSELF.

AND I ACTUALLY BOUGHT TWO COLLEAGUES WHO I'VE TAUGHT WITH FOREVER AT THE HIGHER ED LEVEL TO COME IN AND BE A PART OF THIS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, LET'S KEEP THIS UP.

PEOPLE CAME TOGETHER.

THEY HAD A GREAT TIME.

AND I THINK WE LEARNED SOMETHING BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE, UH, WE ENDED ACTIVE WITH EACH OTHER AND WE HAD FUN, BUT THERE WAS A PROGRAM.

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WE HAD A REENACTMENT OF A GENERAL GRANGER BY ONE OF OUR CITIZENS WHO DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

IT'S ON YOUTUBE.

CHECK IT OUT IF YOU HADN'T SEEN IT.

SO I WANT TO SAY IT WAS FABULOUS.

AND WE HAD WHAT, FIVE PEOPLE UP HERE AND SIX PEOPLE UP HERE ALREADY.

THREE OF THEM MENTIONED THE JUNETEENTH EVENT.

SO WE'RE ON A ROLL.

LET'S KEEP THIS GOING BECAUSE I AM WILLING TO HELP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORMS I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ADRIANA? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE TO THIS AND COMMENTS.

IT'S NOW CLOSED.

[5.  Agenda Order. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ORDER.

DOES ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE AN ITEM THEY WISH TO MOVE AROUND ELLISON? UM, I GUESS NOT IN PARTICULAR.

I, I, I GUESS, UH, I'LL JUST REACH OUT TO MY OTHER COLLEAGUES.

DID Y'ALL WANT, WHERE YOU ALL FIND WITH WHERE OUR AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE RECAP OR I WANT TO MOVE IT UP OR DID Y'ALL FIND WHERE IT'S AT? I'M REALLY INDIFFERENT.

THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I HAD MIRROR.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM 39 TO THE TOP.

OKAY.

LET'S UH, OR IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE'RE GOING

[39.  Consider and possible action to create an ordinance to prohibit political signs or partisan tents at any city events and clarify the city's existing political sign regulations. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]

TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE AGENDA ITEM 39, UH, OFF THE TOP.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 39.

UH, CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTUALLY, TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT POLITICAL SIGNS OR PARTISAN TENTS AT ANY CITY EVENTS AND CLARIFY THE CITY'S EXISTING POLITICAL SIGN REGULATIONS, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME TO VOICE THEIR OPINION ABOUT THIS AGENDA ITEM.

UM, I'M GOING TO TRY TO KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT I WANTED TO DO INITIALLY.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN A VERY DIVISIVE AND HEATED POLITICAL CLIMATE, UM, AND I'M WANTING TO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY FOR AS LONG AS POSSIBLE NEEDS TO STAY AWAY FROM FEDERAL POLITICS AND HAVE ANY SORT OF AFFILIATION WITH POLITICAL PARTIES.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT RESIDENTS COME TO CD SPONSOR EVENTS TO ENJOY.

THEY COME TO MEET THEIR NEIGHBORS.

THEY COME TO CHAT WITH OTHER RESIDENTS.

AND THE LAST THING I BELIEVE THAT THE CD NEEDS IS TO HAVE THIS EVENTS POLITICIZED.

UM, I FEEL LIKE FOR FAR TOO LONG, MOST OF IMPERSONAL BRANDS WOULD PUT ON HOLD AND JOINING A TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY OR A MARKET DAY SHOULD BE TO THE ENJOYMENT OF THE KYLE FAMILIES.

NOT TO BE, NOT SOMETHING TO BE PULLED AT A SIZE.

UM, SO I KNOW, UM, AFTER REVIEWING THE AGENDA AND DISCUSSING WITH MS. PAIGE, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE A VIOLATION OF INITIALLY WHAT I WANTED TO PROPOSE WAS TO HAVE NO PARTIES IN TENTS, BUT ALLOW LOCAL CANDIDATES TO DISPLAY THEIR SIGNS IN A BOOTH IN ANY OF THE COLLEGE EVENTS, IT WILL BE LIKE, UM, SCHOOL BOARDS, COUNCIL, OR MAYOR, UM, ELECTIONS.

HOWEVER I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A VERY THIN LINE.

SO, UM, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO REMOVE THAT OUT OF MY PETITION.

UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, REQUEST IS THAT DURING THE EVENTS THAT ARE HOSTED OR PAID FOR BY TAXPAYER MONEY, IF A CANDIDATE IS GOING TO BE DISPLAYING THEIR SIGNS TO BE INSIDE THEIR BOOTH, NOT HANGING FROM ANY PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF KYLE, WE ALL RECEIVED AN EMAIL ON JANUARY FROM A VERY CONCERNED AND DISCOURAGED RESIDENT.

UM, AND WHAT THE ISSUE WAS WITH A TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY AND WHERE THE SIGNS WERE LOCATED FOR A RUNOFF ELECTION.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IN ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

UM, OR IF THAT CAN BE CORRECTED IF THERE IS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A, AN INCUMBENT RUNNING FOR CITY ELECTION AND HAVING THOSE SIGNS DISPLAYED AT CITY PROPERTY.

SO I CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION GENERALLY.

UM, THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME STATE LAW THAT ADDRESS POLITICAL SIGNS AND THIS HOW THE CITY CAN REGULATE THOSE.

SO WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT, UM, IF THE CITY'S GOING TO ENACT ANY REGULATIONS ON SIGNS, THEY HAVE TO BE CONTENT NEUTRAL.

UH, YOU CAN REGULATE TIME, MANNER IN PLACE, BUT ONCE YOU START LOOKING INTO WHAT IS, WHAT DOES THE SIGN SAY? THAT'S WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO RESTRICTING FREE SPEECH, AND THEN THERE, THE COURTS LOOK AT, IS THERE A COMPELLING INTEREST FOR DOING THAT? AND SO THOSE ARE THE LEGAL ISSUES WE THINK ABOUT WHEN WE LOOK AT ASSIGN

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REGULATION, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT THE, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT WHETHER THE CITY COULD ENACT AN ORDINANCE THAT LIMITS LOCATION OF POLITICAL SIGNS ON CERTAIN PUBLIC PROPERTY AT CERTAIN TIMES, IS THAT IT WILL BE LIKE THE CITY EVENTS.

LIKE WE HAD AN ISSUE AND WE ALL GOT AN EMAIL ON JANUARY SEVEN OF A RESIDENT THAT WAS UPSET BECAUSE THERE WERE INCUMBENT SIGNS DISPLAY AT THE TREELINE IN CEREMONY.

SO IT LOOKED LIKE THE CD WAS SPONSORING OR ENDORSING THE CANDIDATE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS? WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE IF THAT IS, UH, AN OPTION THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT TOO MUCH LEGAL RISK.

UM, IN GENERAL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO A CITY EVENT THAT BECOMES MORE OF A LIMITED PUBLIC FORUM THAN A TRADITIONAL PUBLIC FORUM.

AND SO YOU FOCUS THE SPEECH ON JUST THE PURPOSE OF THAT EVENT THAT GIVES YOU SOME MORE LEEWAY ON REGULATING SPEECH, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO PROHIBIT.

AND NOW I'M NOT SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING TO HAVE ALL THE EVENT.

UM, I MEAN, I THINK IT WILL BE OKAY FOR A CANDIDATE PARTISAN OR NOT TO SET UP A BOOTH AT AN EVENT IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

AND IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE DISPLAYING THEIR SIGNS FOR THE SIGNS TO BE DISPLAYED WITHIN THE BOOTH, NOT HANGING FROM A WALL AT THE PARK, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YES.

YEAH.

I THINK WE CAN KIND OF REFINE THE RESEARCH TO SEE IF THAT IS A POSSIBILITY AND THEN REPORT BACK TO CITY MANAGER TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL PAGE.

I THINK THERE'S ALREADY AN AUDIENCE STATE ORDINANCE PROHIBITING THAT, UH, ACTION.

UH, I LEARNED THAT THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF SIGNS ON THEIR FENCE AND IF IT'S PAID FOR, BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS, YOU CAN USE IT, YOU CAN USE THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN'T USE A STANDING OCTAVE LIKE A BILLBOARD OR, OR A FENCE THAT'S OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

LIKE YOU COULDN'T PUT A SIGN UP ON THEIR MARQUEE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING THAT STATE THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT SITUATION.

UH, EVERYTHING THAT YOU BRING OUT FORWARD NOW HAS TO BE A PART OF YOUR BOOTH OR, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU CAN'T USE SOMETHING THAT BELONGS TO THE PUBLIC IN THAT MANNER THAT LIKE A FENCE.

SO I THINK THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING IN PLACE.

SO I DON'T EVEN THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT AS A CITY.

WE CAN SEE IF YOUR CITY, YOUR ORDINANCES ALREADY COVERED THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

AND THE POINT BEING IS BECAUSE THAT RESIDENT IN PARTICULAR REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL MEMBERS OF STAFF AND THERE WAS NO VIOLATION.

SO, UM, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IF WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE, ARE WE GOING TO BE PROMOTING ALSO NOT ONLY THE INCUMBENT PERSON, BUT THE REST OF THE CANDIDATES, IF YOU ALLOW ONE, YOU'D HAVE TO ALLOW THEM ALL.

EXACTLY.

SO IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HANG AS SIGN NEXT TO THE TREE DURING THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY, THEN THE OTHER CANDIDATES COULD POTENTIALLY PUT THEIR SIGNS IN THERE.

IF YOU ALLOW ONE, YOU'D HAVE TO ALLOW THEM.

OKAY.

THAT'S THOSE WERE MY CONCERNS.

SO WE CAN BASICALLY SCRATCH THE PARTY SENTENCE.

AND THEN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO LOOK INTO IF WE ARE ALLOWING THOSE SIGNS TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, HANG IN CITY PROPERTY DURING EVENTS.

OKAY.

CUSTOMER, THANK YOU.

UM, I REMEMBER RECEIVING THAT SAME EXACT EMAIL AND MY WORRY WAS, UM, HER COMMENT WAS, WELL, IF WE CAN ALLOW ONE PERSON TO HANG THIS SIGN, I WILL LINE UP EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN HIDE, HANG UP THEIR SIGNS.

AND SO SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT PRO-LIFE AND PRO-CHOICE, AND I DON'T THINK AT ANY POINT, THE CITY WANTS TO GET LIKE THAT THE REAL ISSUE AT HAND WAS WHY WAS YOUR ASSIGNED LOCATED? EVERYBODY FELT A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE AND WHY WASN'T THERE ACTION TAKEN ON THAT? SO MAYBE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH LMS, AS FAR AS IT CAN ONLY BE UNDER BOOTH, OR IT COULD BE LIMITED TO A STANDALONE, BUT NOT IN THE GROUND OR NOT I'M ON THE FENCE OR ANY OTHER AREAS THAT THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE HELPFUL.

AND MAYBE THAT WILL BE A COMMON GROUND, BUT I DO REMEMBER THAT EMAIL AND SHE WAS VERY UPSET.

UM, AND SO IN ORDER, I KNOW WE'VE GOT EVENTS COMING UP AND IN ORDER TO AVOID THIS FOR THE NEXT ELECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING PROGRESSIVELY DONE TO GET IN FRONT OF, IN FRONT OF THIS ISSUE.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WANT TO THANK, UH, THE RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT, UM, TO EXPRESS THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS.

UM, I KNOW WE PRIMARILY FROM THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT, UH, IF WE HAD SOME REPUBLICANS, UH, THAT ALSO PUT UP TENTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, HE WOULD PROBABLY BE A FAIRLY SAME SENTIMENT HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW,

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WHEN I SAW THIS AGENDA ITEM COME UP, I'VE SEEN SOME PRETTY INTERESTING AGENDA ITEMS IN MY TIME HERE ON COUNCIL, BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT, I WAS A LITTLE SHOCKED BY THIS ONE AND THE LANGUAGE THAT IT WAS THAT WAS PROPOSED ON IT.

AND ONCE AGAIN, AS WE'RE REMARKED BY SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, UH, MY, MY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT WENT TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND, AND, UH, THE RIGHTS WE ALL HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ALL THROUGHOUT LIFE IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT TIMES, AND I UNDERSTAND PUBLIC EVENTS ARE CERTAINLY, UH, A TIME FOR US TO ENGAGE IN WHATEVER THAT PUBLIC EVENT IS AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN, BUT THAT INCLUDES OUR POLITICAL DISCOURSE AND OUR, OUR POLITICAL IDEOLOGY, UH, EVEN IF THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN THAT ALREADY BUILT IN.

UH, BUT THAT IS PART OF, IN MY OPINION, WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT IS THAT WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS IN PUBLIC SETTINGS.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, I WAS LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS MADE, UH, BY ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ABOUT, UH, PEOPLE OF THE OPPOSITE PARTY COME IN AND ENGAGE IN THAT TENT.

SO, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR CLARIFICATION ON THIS.

I ACTUALLY HAD AN INKLING THAT IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH A REALLY CONTENTIOUS, UH, CAMPAIGN LAST FALL.

AND SO I, AND I DO REMEMBER WE ALL RECEIVED THAT SAME EMAIL BACK IN JANUARY.

SO I HAD, UH, AN ASSUMPTION THAT IT HAD TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT, BUT YOUR AGENDA ITEM LANGUAGE, I THINK, IS WHAT REALLY SHOCKED A LOT OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING YOUR COLLEAGUES, OR AT LEAST I'LL SAY FOR MYSELF, UM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE NOTHING.

I WOULD WANT ANY PART OF, UH, WHAT YOU WROTE ON THAT AGENDA ITEM.

UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN AND AS THE MAYOR PRO TIM BROUGHT UP, THERE ARE ALREADY THINGS THAT ARE IN PLACE FOR WHERE SIGNAGE CAN BE, UH, BETWEEN ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO PUBLIC PROPERTY.

THERE'S A TON OF VIOLATIONS THAT I SEE ON POLITICAL SIGNS LEFT AND RIGHT, UH, THAT ARE, UH, AGAINST LAW OF WHERE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE PROPER, UM, A DISCLAIMER ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SIGN OF WHERE IT CAN BE POSTED, UH, WHAT THAT POLITICAL AD IS PAID BY.

ALL OF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON YOUR SIGN.

I'VE SEEN TONS OF SIGNS ACROSS THIS CITY AND ACROSS THIS COUNTY THAT DON'T HAVE THEM.

I'VE SEEN WHERE PEOPLE HAVE, UH, THEY'RE RUNNING FOR A CERTAIN POSITION AND THAT TITLE IS LARGER THAN THE ELECT, OR, UH, AND IF THERE ARE ACTUALLY RULES ABOUT HOW LARGE YOU CAN MAKE THE TITLE OF THE OFFICE YOU'RE RUNNING FOR, BECAUSE IT CAN GIVE THE ILLUSION THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT TITLE.

SO THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF THINGS ALREADY SET IN THE CODE THAT I THINK PEOPLE IGNORE ALL THE TIME AND NO ONE BATS AN EYE ABOUT, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, BUT, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN NOW, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ARTICULATING WHAT MORE SPECIFICALLY YOU WERE TRYING TO GET AT.

AND IT SEEMS TO BE THAT SPECIFIC CASE, UH, AGAINST THE OPPONENT YOU HAD IN, IN THE FALL.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHEN HE ADDRESSED THAT, I WOULD JUST HIGHLY CAUTION THE COUNCIL IN POSTING AGENDA ITEMS TO BE CONSCIOUS OF OUR LANGUAGE THAT WE PUT IN THERE, BECAUSE I THINK IT CAN BE A BIT MISLEADING OR GIVE CAUSE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY IN MY OPINION, UH, OUT OF BOUNDS.

UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT CLARIFICATION.

UH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY BUTTON UP OUR, OUR, UH, LOCAL ORDINANCES TO MATCH ALL THE STATE LAWS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN REGARDS TO SIGNAGE.

AND CERTAINLY, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE.

SO I'D PROBABLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, COMB THROUGH THAT AND MAYBE PROPOSE THOSE SPECIFIC CHANGES AS OPPOSED TO THE GENERAL LANGUAGE THAT YOU PROPOSE IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM.

UH, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY MY, MY 2 CENTS ON, ON THAT THOUGHT THERE.

ALRIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? CUSTOMER TOBY.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT, UH, CASPER NELSON, CAUSE, UH, AGAIN, READING THIS AND THE, UH, SEVERAL NUMEROUS TEXTS AND PHONE CALLS I RECEIVED ON IT, UH, STIRRED UP A LOT OF, UM, CONVERSATION.

AND, AND BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT IT, I WAS BASICALLY LOOKING AT IT IN THIS SENSE.

AND I, AND I NOW KNOW THE REASON WHY IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT EMAIL ABOUT MAYOR PRO TEM COACHES SIGN AT THE CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE OF THAT? OKAY.

WE'RE BRINGING THAT UP.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WITH MAYOR PRO TEM COACH HAVING A TENT, HAVING A SIGN, HAVING A TABLE AT A FAMILY, SIT, EVEN

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IN LESS, REMIND YOU TO MS. PARSLEY AT THE VETERAN'S DAY PARADE VETERAN'S DAY FESTIVAL, YOU HAVING A TENT, YOU HAVING A TABLE, YOU HAVE IN YOUR SIGN IN MANY FAMILY MEMBERS WALKING AROUND WITH T-SHIRTS TO SAY PARSLEY, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THERE? THERE'S REALLY NOT BECAUSE BOTH OF YOU WERE EXERCISING AND DEMONSTRATING AND PARTICIPATING IN YURI EQUAL RIGHTS IN YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

YOU'RE DEMONSTRATING, YOU'RE SHOWING YOUR FIRST GOD GIVEN HER FIRST AMENDMENT.

YOU ARE BOTH DISPLAYING THAT.

SO WHEN I FIRST SAW THAT IT REALLY KIND OF THREW ME FOR A LOOP THERE OF WHY WE DID THAT.

BECAUSE AGAIN, BOTH OF YOU AT A CITY EVENT AT A CITY FUNCTION WHERE WE'RE CELEBRATING CHRISTMAS, AND WE'RE ALSO CELEBRATING VETERANS WHERE WE HAD BOTH OF YOU CAMPAIGNING FOR THE SAME OFFICE.

SO AGAIN, IT KIND OF MISLED MYSELF ABOUT THIS AND I'M GLAD, UH, COUNCILMAN NELSON CLARIFY THAT.

AND, UM, I KNOW IT WAS BECAUSE THE SIGNS WERE HUNG ON A CITY FENCE THAT WAS PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP BECAUSE OF THAT.

AND, AND, UH, IN SOME PEOPLE FELT LIKE, WELL, THE CITY'S ENDORSING THIS PERSON, OR IF THEY DID, THEY DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB BECAUSE YOU WON.

CONGRATULATIONS, YOU WON.

SO THAT'S MY POINT ON THAT IN, OKAY.

YOU, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH OUR RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE AS CITIZENS OF AMERICA.

THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY IS ALL ABOUT.

AND WHEN WE START CLOSING THE GAP ON THIS, MY THING IS THIS WHAT'S NEXT? ARE WE GOING TO START BANNING POLITICAL SYMBOLS? YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE, RIGHT? THOSE ARE FLAGS.

THOSE ARE MODELS.

THOSE ARE BUTTONS, RIGHT.

ARE WE GOING TO START THERE NEXT? IS THAT GOING TO BE THE NEXT THING? AM I NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MY BLUE BLUE LINE FLAG SUPPORTING THE POLICE? IS THAT GOING TO BE NEXT? IS IT GOING TO BE, MY FRIENDS HAVE TO TAKE DOWN THEIR BLACK LIVES MATTER SIGN OR THE PRIDE FLAG WHAT'S NEXT.

SO WE HAD TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHO WE ARE.

WE ARE AMERICANS, WE HAVE DEMOCRACIES AND WE HAVE RULES IN PLACE IN GOING FORWARD.

I THINK WE'LL LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCE GOING FORWARD WHEN WE DO HAVE THESE CAMPAIGNS TO SEE, OKAY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT IN VIOLATION OF CITY ORDINANCE BY RESTRICTING THAT AND COMING UP WITH AN ORDINANCE TO ELIMINATE THAT THAT'S WHERE WE START TAKING AWAY OUR FREEDOMS. SO YOU MUST BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, JUST ONE LAST THING THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, IT WAS, THE EMAIL WOULD CAUGHT ME IN THE EMAIL WAS ABOUT BANNING, UM, EVERY CANDIDATE FROM OUR FUNCTIONS THAT WAS PARADES AND EVERYTHING THAT THE, UH, EMAIL STATED.

AND FOR ME AS I'M, I WANT TO SEE MY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THOSE RUNNING FOR OFFICE PARTICIPATING IN OUR EVENTS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THOSE WHO ARE SEEKING OFFICE TO ENGAGE OUR PUBLIC.

I, UH, I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO OUR PARADES AND I DO IT BECAUSE I LOVE MEETING THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE.

I'M VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY, BUT IN THE PARADES, IT BRINGS OUT MORE OF YOUR RESIDENTS.

AND THESE ARE MORE PEOPLE YOU GET TO ENGAGE WITH, UM, WHETHER IT'S AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE STATE LEVEL.

I THINK IF THIS CITY IS, IF YOUR COMMUNITY OF COMMUNITIES ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU'LL COME OUT AND YOU'LL BE A PART OF THOSE, UH, EVENTS WHEN THEY'RE THERE, BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE AS WELL.

SO, UH, FOR ME, I WOULD NEVER EVEN CONSIDER BANNING, UM, ANYONE RUNNING FOR OFFICE TO PURSUE FROM PARTICIPATING IN OUR EVENTS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO ENGAGE THE CITIZENRY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO SERVE THEM.

SO, UH, I, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS AGENDA ITEM DID SCARE ME A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS SO THAT WE CAN VET THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT THE REASON WAS FOR THESE AGENDA ITEMS. AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AS A COUNCIL HERE TONIGHT.

UH, I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN VERY COURTEOUS AND WE'VE, UH, DID A GREAT JOB OF VETTING THIS.

SO THANK YOU ALL CASPER PARSLEY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE WAY THAT THE ITEM GOT WORDED.

I THINK I PROBABLY DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB TRYING TO EXPLAIN IN THE TITLE EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

I REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THE CITY NOT INVOLVED IN POLITICS, JUST FOR, I GUESS, THE PEACE OF THE RESIDENTS.

UM, BEING ABLE TO GO WITH, TO AN EVENT WITHOUT

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HAVING TO ENGAGE PEOPLE INTO A HOSTILE CONVERSATION.

MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I THINK I WAS TRYING TO AVOID.

HOWEVER, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MIGHT BE A VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT.

SO I GUESS TO NOW, UM, TO THE EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW EXACTLY IF THE SIZE COULD BE, HANG ON A FENCE OF CD PROPERTY.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK INTO JUST FOR FUTURE EVENTS.

UM, I THINK IT'S PHENOMENAL TO HAVE LOCAL CANDIDATES TO HAVE A BOOTH AT EVENTS THAT ARE PAID BY THE CITY, BECAUSE THAT IS A WAY FOR A CANDIDATE TO ENGAGE WITH THE RESIDENTS AND EXPLAIN THE PLATFORM I WASN'T AGAINST THAT.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE FEDERAL POLITICS OUT OF THE CITY, JUST BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE CLIMATE RIGHT NOW IS NOT ENJOYABLE.

I GUESS I WILL SAY THAT, THAT, BUT WITH THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO REVISE ON WHEN THE SCIENCE CAN BE HANGED, IF THEY ARE ALLOWED IN CITY PROPERTY OR NOT, OR JUST SET SOME RULES ABOUT IT, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY YET YOU MIGHT LIKE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO, CAN YOU TRY TO MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR AS EMOTION? OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

SO IT WILL BE, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO MAYBE LOOK INTO CREATING A ROLE SOLVE POLITICAL SCIENCE PLACEMENT WITHIN CITY PROPERTY.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK INTO THE POLITICAL SIGN ORDINANCES IN PARTICULAR, WHERE THEY CAN BE PLACED SECOND AND BY CUSTOMER FLOORS SCALES OR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

YEAH, MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY REAL QUICKLY, I THINK THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING IN THE BOOKS AT STATE LEVEL ABOUT PROHIBITING THOSE SIGNS ON A PUBLIC, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT OWNED, UH, AREAS WHEN IT COMES TO FENCES SIGNS ARE KEYS.

SO I THINK THERE'S ALREADY SOMETHING IN THE BOOKS, HOLD ON.

HE'S TALKING.

SO, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK INTO THOSE RULES FIRST, BEFORE WE EVEN LOOK AT ANYTHING, BUT I'M OKAY WITH STAFF LOOKING AT THAT ORDINANCE AND JUST BRING RC ORDINANCE UP TO DATE WITH THAT CASPER, ALISON YEAH.

ALONG THOSE SAME LINES.

SO I DON'T JUST NECESSARILY WANT TO SUPPORT JUST STAFF BRINGING BACK, UH, JUST GENERAL THINGS I WANT.

I WOULD LOVE FOR, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT SOUNDS PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN 100% SURE ON THE EXACT RULES AND HOW THEY ALIGN WITH STATE LAW.

SO HOW ABOUT WHEN INSTEAD WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK EVERYTHING THAT OUR CODE STATES, AS FAR AS THE SIGNS, AS WELL AS STATE STATUE ON THAT.

AND THEN WE CAN WORK FROM THERE RATHER THAN JUST KIND OF AN AMBIGUOUS COME BACK TO US WITH THIS THING SO WE CAN GET IT THAT WAY.

STAFF WILL BRING IT BACK TO US.

IT'LL BE PRESENTED ON AGENDA ITEM.

IT WILL BE MADE PUBLIC SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE ALL THOSE RULES AS WELL AS US.

AND THEN WE CAN TIE UP ANY LOOSE ENDS OR BUTTON UP, ANYTHING THAT MAY, THAT WE MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST OR THAT WE'RE MAYBE CONCERNED ABOUT.

THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THOSE.

I'D LIKE A, PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION IN PRODUCTION ON THE, ON THE, UM, MOTION THAN RATHER JUST A GENERAL BLANKET, BRING BACK SOMETHING MY PERSONAL OPINION, UH, OTHER DISCUSSION.

SO THERE IS CURRENTLY A REGULATION THAT 2 59 DASH 0 0 3, THAT TALKS ABOUT REGULATION OF POLITICAL SCIENCE BY MUNICIPALITY, BUT IT DOES ONLY TALK ABOUT PRIVATE REAL PROPERTY.

IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING THAT REGULATES POLITICAL SCIENCE ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY.

I'M LOOKING AT THE ELECTION CODE TITLE 15.

I THINK THIS IS WHY I'M MENTIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING STAFF TO RESEARCH ALL OF THAT, TO BRING IT BACK.

AND SO THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR OUTLINE OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CODES.

THERE ARE BOTH HIM WITHIN OUR ORDINANCES AS WELL AS STATE STATUE.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON THAT AND WE CAN ALL SEE IT TOGETHER AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE.

THANK YOU.

I WAS JUST GOING TO AGREE.

YEAH.

IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE QUICKEST AND MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO JUST GET ALL THE INFORMATION GIVEN TO US.

AND THEN WE, AFTER WE REVIEW IT, WE CAN DISCUSS HOW WE WANT OUR ORDINANCE TO LOOK WITHIN THE LAWS OF THE STATE.

UM, SO I WAS JUST GOING TO AGREE WITH THE

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INDEX, SENT IT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND YOU MADE THE SECOND.

SO ARE YOU WANTING TO WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND? YES, SHE CAN AMEND HERS AND I CAN, I CAN SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, TO LOOK INTO CURRENT ORDINANCE REGARDING POLITICAL SIGN PLACEMENT AND BRING THAT BACK FOR US TO DISCUSS INCLUDING STATE AND FEDERAL STATUTES.

OH, THAT'S IT THAT'S THE SAME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CLICK CLARITY IS.

UH, THAT WAS, WHAT ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OFFICE SIGNS? BASICALLY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY RULES ALREADY IN PLACE, I TALK ABOUT WHERE THE SCIENCE CAN BE PLACED IN CITY OWNED PROPERTY, IF THERE IS ANY, I THINK, UH, WHAT I UNDERSTAND WOULD TAKE AWAY IS WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION BOTH FROM STATE LAW AND THE CITY ORDINANCES.

AND THEN BASED ON WHAT I'M THINKING, COUNCIL'S WANTING TO DO SOME SUGGESTIONS ON DEALING WITH THE BOOTH AND THE FENCE ISSUES.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AN ORG IN CITY ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES THAT.

SO JUST BASED ON THE DISCUSSION, THERE'S PROBABLY JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS WE COULD SUGGEST THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER WOULDN'T.

I WOULD PREPARE THE ORDINANCE, JUST A COUPLE OF SENTENCES THAT EXPLAIN HERE'S WHAT YOU COULD CONSIDER DOING.

I THINK I SEE WHAT THERE IS AND I THINK I SEE WHAT THE SUGGESTION IS, BUT THEY'VE, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES IN STATE LAW THAT I NEED TO JUST CONFIRM.

OKAY, WELL, I WANT HIM, I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I DON'T WANT THE DIRECTION.

I DON'T WANT STAFF TO, TO INTERPRET FROM THE MOTION THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING BACK, UH, RULES FOR PROHIBITING POLITICAL SIGNAGE ON FENCE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL.

WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL IS THAT WE WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLITICAL SIGN ORDINANCE IS COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW.

AND IF IT IS NOT COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW TO BRING BACK ANY REVISIONS NECESSARY TO MAKE IT COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW.

AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, IF THERE IS A DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO PROPOSE ABOVE AND BEYOND MEASURES, THEN COUNCIL CAN BRING FORWARD PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE DUTY OR THE BURDEN OF STAFF TO TRY TO INTERPRET THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD IS NOT.

SO DOES SHE NEED TO RESTATE HER PROMOTION THEN? OKAY.

IF OKAY.

DEEP BREATH.

OKAY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, TO DO A REVISION OF THE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS FOR POLITICAL SITE PLACEMENT AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, UM, THEY COMPLY TO ENSURE THAT SO ORDINANCE ON POLITICAL SCIENCE IS COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE MOTION IS TO, UH, UH, MADE BY CUSTOMER PARTIALLY TO DIRECT STAFF, TO, UH, LOOK INTO OUR POLITICAL SIGN ORDINANCE AND ENSURE THAT IT IS COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW AND TO BRING BACK ANY REVISIONS, IF IT IS NOT THE SECOND MADE BY COUNSELOR FOREST KALE, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

[6.  Juneteenth proclamation. ~ Dex Ellison, Council Member]

NEXT STEP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, JUNE 10TH, PROCLAMATION CUSTOMER CENTER.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM UH, SO I APPRECIATE DR.

WESTBROOK COMING UP AND GIVING A RECAP PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE COL MARKET DAYS.

AND I APPRECIATED THAT BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT ONE FOR, UH, THE SPOTLIGHT, BUT YOUR EFFORTS ON GETTING THAT PROGRAM TOGETHER AND GETTING THE MEMBERS THAT YOU ALL GAVE THEIR MUCH DO CREDIT TO IT.

A LOT OF THAT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT YOU, DR.

WESTBROOK.

AND SO I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT, UH, AND TAKING THE LEAD ON, ON GETTING THAT GOING.

SO, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HERE AT THE, UH, CITY OF KYLE, WE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CELEBRATIONS, UH, FOR JUNETEENTH.

I RECALL SEEING ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AT SOMEONE WHO WAS WONDERING WHY WE WERE CELEBRATING JUNETEENTH ON JUNE 11TH.

AND I LOVE THE RESPONSE FROM OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL EVENTS COMMEMORATING THE, THE HOLIDAY.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I SAW THE RESIDENT, I BELIEVE GIVE A THUMBS UP ON THAT.

AND SO, UH, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UH, WHEN I GIVE MY GRATITUDE TO ALL RESIDENTS, STAFF, UH, COUNCIL THAT PARTICIPATED IN ANY OF THOSE EVENTS, UH, WE DID HAVE OUR, UM, SECOND ANNUAL DIALOGUE FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS ON JUNE EIGHT, 17TH.

YES, 17TH,

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THE FRIGHT LAST FRIDAY, UH, WHICH IS OUR PANEL DISCUSSION, UH, BY THE CITY OF KYLE.

I DO WANT TO, UH, SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS YET ANOTHER GREAT CONVERSATION, UM, AMONGST OUR PANEL, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I HOST AND MODERATE THOSE, BUT I, AS THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT CAN PROBABLY BACK ME UP ON THIS.

MY LARGE GOAL OF THAT IS TO NOT HAVE ME, UM, PRONOUNCED IN ANY WAY ON THOSE, BECAUSE I TRULY FEEL THAT THAT IS A CITY EVENT.

AND SO I KNOW, UM, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WOULD KIND OF BE LONG.

WE TRY TO KEEP THEM DO AN HOUR AND A HALF, BUT I WOULDN'T.

I KNOW, UM, I'VE SEEN SOME OF YOU ATTEND THEM IN THE PAST.

I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO WATCH THOSE, UH, AND TAKE IN THE CONVERSATION AND DIALOGUE.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE FAMILIES AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON IN YOUR SCHEDULE TO NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND THOSE, BUT, UH, SOME SUPPORT EITHER WITH SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS OR, UH, PRONOUNCING THAT WE ARE DOING THAT, WHICH IS SOMETHING I THINK IS VERY UNIQUE FOR A CITY TO DO, UH, TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

A LOT OF CITIES DO FESTIVALS.

A LOT OF CITIES DO PARADES AND BARBECUES AND DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TOUGH TOPICS THAT THERE ARE, UH, OUT THERE, UH, IS SOMETHING UNIQUE.

AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COUNCIL SHOULD, UH, REALLY PRONOUNCE AND EXALT THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

SO I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT THERE.

LASTLY, WE DID HAVE OUR JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IN COORDINATION WITH THE KYLE AREA, SENIOR ZONE, UH, KUDOS TO THEM ON DOING A GREAT PROGRAM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE US WAS THERE AS WELL.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SO UNIQUE ABOUT THAT WAS THAT WE DID A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY, WHICH IS THIS HISTORY, UH, THE CITY'S FIRST EVER, AND TO RAISE THE JUNETEENTH FLAG, WHICH NOT MANY PEOPLE EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE OR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

IT IS A RED, WHITE, AND BLUE FLAG.

AND THAT IS ON PURPOSE.

AS I MENTIONED IN MY DESCRIPTION ABOUT THE FLAG, THE CREATORS OF THE FLAG IN 1977 MADE IT RED, WHITE, AND BLUE ON PURPOSE BECAUSE ALL AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE ALWAYS AMERICANS.

AND THAT IS WHY THAT FLAG IS RED, WHITE, AND BLUE.

SO I KNOW SOMETIMES THESE TOPICS KIND OF DIVIDE US, OR WE FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES THESE THINGS ARE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT JUNETEENTH IS NOT TO TAKE AWAY SOMETHING.

IT IS SIMPLY TO INCLUDE ALL THOSE, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITIES BOTH PAST AND PRESENT AND FUTURE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAME FROM MANY YEARS OF STRUGGLE.

UH, SO, UH, WE DID A FLAG RAISING CEREMONY WHERE EVERY PERSON PRETTY MUCH DID ATTENDED THE CEREMONY, GOT TO GO, GOT TO DO ONE, CRANK UP THE FLAG UP THE POLE.

IT WAS SOMETHING VERY MOVING.

UH, I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE HAS MADE SOME VERY POIGNANT COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.

HAVING GROWN UP IN THIS CITY AND THE EXPERIENCES HE HAD AS A YOUNG BOY, UH, IN THIS COMMUNITY AND HOW THAT HAS CHANGED.

AND WE'VE SEEN VARIOUS DIFFERENT CHANGES IN OUR COMMUNITY HAPPENED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN PARTICULAR.

AND SO, UM, I JUST WANT IT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE US, AND THANK YOU TO THE CALORIE SENIOR ZONE FOR PUTTING THAT ON.

NOW, I KNOW I SAID A LOT, BUT I HAD TO TAKE THE PRIVILEGE, UH, TO SPEAK ON THAT THIS MAY BE MY FINAL JUNE PROCLAMATION.

SO I WANTED TO GET MY THOUGHTS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND CERTAINLY SHARE WITH YOU ALL HOW I FEEL AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THIS GREAT CITY NOW INTO THE CITY OF CAL COUNCIL MEMO, CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATION, WHEREAS JUNETEENTH ALSO KNOWN AS FREEDOM OR EMANCIPATION DAY CELEBRATES THIS 157TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR, JUNE 10TH IS A HOLIDAY THAT COMMEMORATES THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY IN TEXAS IN JUNE, 1865.

THIS OCCURRED 901 DAYS AFTER EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION WAS ISSUED BY PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

AND WHEREAS THE FOLLOWING WAS READ IN GALVESTON, TEXAS ON JUNE 19TH, 1865, BUT GENERAL GORDON GRANGER.

THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS ARE INFORMED THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH A PROCLAMATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE OF THE UNITED STATES, ALL SLAVES ARE FREE.

THIS INVOLVES AN ABSOLUTE EQUALITY OF PERSONAL RIGHTS AND RIGHTS OF PROPERTY BETWEEN FORMER MASTERS AND SLAVES.

AND THE CONNECTION HERE TO, FOR EXISTING BETWEEN THEM BECOMES THAT BETWEEN EMPLOYER AND HIRED LABOR, THE FREEDMEN ARE ADVISED TO REMAIN QUIETLY AT THEIR PRESENT HOMES AND WORK FOR WAGES.

THEY INFORMED THAT THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO COLLECT AT MILITARY POSTS AND THAT THEY WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED IN IDLENESS EITHER THERE OR ELSEWHERE IN QUOTE, AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH COMMEMORATES AFRICAN-AMERICAN FREEDOM AND EMPHASIZES EDUCATION AND ACHIEVEMENT IS A DAY A WEEK.

AND IN SOME AREAS A MONTH MARK WITH CELEBRATIONS, GUEST SPEAKERS, PICNICS, AND FAMILY GATHERINGS IS A TIME FOR REFLECTION AND REJOICING.

IT IS A TIME FOR ASSESSMENT SELF-IMPROVEMENT AND FOR PLANNING THE FUTURE IN CITIES, ACROSS THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE OF ALL RACES, NATIONALITIES AND RELIGIONS ARE JOINING HANDS TO TRUTHFULLY ACKNOWLEDGE A PERIOD IN OUR HISTORY

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THAT SHAPED AND CONTINUES TO INFLUENCE OUR SOCIETY TODAY, SENSITIZED TO THE CONDITIONS AND EXPERIENCES OF OTHERS ONLY THEN CAN WE MAKE SIGNIFICANT AND LASTING IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR SOCIETY? AND WHEREAS IN THE WORDS OF FORMER TEXAS STATE REPRESENTATIVE AL EDWARDS, WHO AUTHORED HOUSE BILL 10 16, MAKING TEXAS THE FIRST DATE WITH JUNE TEETH AS AN OFFICIAL STATE HOLIDAY QUOTE, EVERY YEAR, WE MUST REMIND SUCCESSIVE GENERATIONS THAT THIS EVENT TRIGGERED A SERIES OF EVENTS.

THAT ONE BY ONE DEFINES THE CHALLENGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT SUCCESSIVE GENERATIONS.

THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS HOLIDAY IN QUOTE.

AND WHEREAS TWO DAYS AFTER PASSING THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES BY A LARGE MAJORITY ON THE 17TH DAY OF JUNE, 2021, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SIGNED THE UNANIMOUS AND BIPARTISAN EFFORT OF THE SENATE CHAMBER CREATING THE JUNETEENTH NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE DAY ACT AND THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF CALL THAT THE 19TH DAY OF JUNE SHOULD BE CELEBRATED AS JUNETEENTH OR EMANCIPATION DAY IN RECOGNITION OF JUBILEE DAY AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED, AND THE SPIRIT OF JUNETEENTH THAT CELEBRATES AFRICAN-AMERICAN FREEDOM, EDUCATION AND ACHIEVEMENT WHILE ENCOURAGING CONTINUOUS SELF-DEVELOPMENT AND RESPECT FOR ALL CULTURES SIGNED AND ENTERED THIS 21ST DAY OF JUNE, 2022.

UM, ONE LAST THING I'LL, I'LL SAY, UH, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL SUPPORT IN THESE PROCLAMATIONS, THANK YOU TO THE UNBRIDLED SUPPORT AND ALLOWING ME TO, UH, CONDUCT THE DIALOGUES FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS.

WE HAVE DONE SIX OF THEM NOW AND SINCE JUNE, 2020, AND HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO DO THOSE.

WE HAVE ONE MORE SCHEDULED FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR IN SEPTEMBER TO HONOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

I ENCOURAGE ALL TO COME OUT TO THAT, JOIN IT, JOIN THE PANEL.

IF YOU'D LIKE, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.

I KNOW LAST YEAR WHEN I DID THE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH DIALOGUE PANEL, UH, AT LEAST THREE OF YOU ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT MAYBE EVEN TAKE LEAD ON THAT.

I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO COORDINATE WITH YOU ON THAT, PASS THE BUCK OR WHATNOT, BUT THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL SUPPORT ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THIS PRO-TIP YEAH, MAYOR.

AND THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE FOR OUR CITY AND FOR OUR COUNTRY AS WELL.

UM, I RAN ACROSS THIS, UH, POEM BY JANELL WESTMEYER.

I'D LIKE TO READ IT REAL QUICK.

IT SAYS MY FATHER'S HANDS SITTING HERE IN MY CHAIR.

I LOOK OVER AT A PHOTO OF MY DAD.

MY DAD WAS AS ENGAGED IN SMILE AND GENTLE EYES SHOWS HIM KNEELED BY BRONZE STATUARY TIGER.

THAT WAS A MASCOT OF HIS HIGH SCHOOL DURING THE GRADUATION CEREMONY ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PHOTO OF THE WORDS WRITTEN, SAY HIS NAME, THE DATE, THE PICTURE THAT WAS TAKEN MAY 4TH, 2013, THE DAY OF MY BIRTHDAY, THE WORDS ONCE A TIGER, ALWAYS A TIGER.

THIS WAS THE LAST PHOTO THAT MY DAD WOULD HAVE TAKEN.

AS I LOOK AT THE PHOTO, I LOOK AT MY DAD'S HANDS THAT IS RESTING ON THE BACK OF THE BRONZE TIGER.

I REMEMBER HOW I WOULD ALWAYS LOOK AT MY DAD'S HANDS AND WOULD SEE THE STRENGTH AND GENTLENESS OF THEM.

THOSE HANDS HELD MINE FROM AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, THEY PROTECTED ME, CARED FOR ME, HELD ME WHEN I WAS SCARED, WIPE THE TEARS FROM EYES AND COMFORTED ME.

I THEN LOOKED DOWN AT MY HANDS OR MY DAD'S WEDDING RING NOW REST.

AND I NOTICED THAT MY HANDS LOOKED SO MUCH LIKE HIS AS A MOTHER, I DO THE VERY THING THAT MY DAD DID FOR ME.

I DO FOR MY CHILDREN, AND THEN THINK OF HOW IT WOULD BE, HAVE BEEN FOR MY GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN FATHER, WHO WAS A SLAVE AND WON HIS FREEDOM, SERVING IN THE CIVIL WAR.

THEN YEARS OF HARDSHIP THAT HE HAD TO ENDURE.

AND BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN, IN SPITE OF THE LIFE, GIVEN TO HIM, HE WAS A MAN OF HONOR IN A WORLD WHERE YOU WERE JUDGED BY THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, BUT IN THE CITY, HE CHOSE TO BE HIS HOME.

HE WAS JUDGED BY THE CONTENT OF HIS HEART AFTER LEARNING SO MUCH ABOUT MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER.

I UNDERSTAND WHY MY DAD IS THE WAY HE IS.

MY DAD ALSO GREW UP WHERE HE WAS ALSO JUDGED BY THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN, BUT DAD GAVE HIS HEART AND DEDICATION FIRST TO GOD, HIS FAMILY AND THE COMMUNITY THAT HE LOVED, EVEN THOUGH MY HANDS ARE NOT DELICATE AND FEMININE, BUT LARGE SCARRED ROUGH.

I LOOK AT MY HANDS WITH THE NEW APPRECIATION, RESPECT, PRIDE, KNOWING I HAVE MY DAD'S HANDS, THE HANDS OF STRENGTH, AND THAT WAS WRITTEN BY JANELL WESTERN MEYER.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTARY? JUST REAL QUICK? UM, NOT TO MAKE THIS A ABOUT ME, BUT IT, IT WAS SUCH A REMARKABLE EVENT FOR ME TO ATTEND DOING THAT FOR MY CITY AND RAISING THAT FLAG AND COUNCILMAN NELSON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL.

YOU'VE DONE.

UM, BRINGING THESE, UH, CONVERSATIONS, CAUSE AGAIN, GREAT CONVERSATIONS LEAD TO BETTER COMMUNICATION IN IT STARTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE PEACE,

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WE WILL HAVE PROGRESS.

SO THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, I ACTUALLY WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING TO IT, UH, AS WELL, UH, TO CUSTOMER ELLISON, TO DR.

WESTBROOK AND TO SOME OF THE OTHERS WHO'VE BEEN, UH, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, MAKING A NOTICEABLE IMPACT, NOT ONLY FOR JUNETEENTH, BUT UH, JUST IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL, TO HELP BRING COMMUNICATION AND DIALOGUE.

UM, IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY FOR COMMUNITIES TO, UH, ACCEPT THAT THEY, UH, DON'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING AND THAT MAYBE THEY, UH, HAVE THINGS THEY'D RATHER NOT DISCUSS.

AND YOU'VE DONE A, YOU'VE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB, FRANKLY, HELPING TO BRING THAT DISCUSSION TO THE FOREFRONT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND YOU.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK MAYBE SOME PEOPLE HERE KNOW, BUT CUSTOMER ELLISON WRITES ALL OF HIS OWN PROCLAMATIONS, UH, AND, UH, THAT'S, UH, ALSO TO BE COMMITTED THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO PUT THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.

SO I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.

UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S RELEVANT? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, UH, AS CUSTOMER, WE DO TAKE A PICTURE.

UM, I KNOW SOMETIMES FOLKS ARE A LITTLE, UH, PICTURE SHY ON NATE TAKING THIS, BUT DO ME A SOLID HERE, ANYONE IN SUPPORT OF JUNETEENTH AND WHAT, WHAT I JUST WROTE AND PLEASE COME UP HERE AND JOIN US FOR A PICTURE IN FRONT OF THE DIOCESE AND A FORM OF UNITY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE A COMMUNITY WITHOUT UNITY.

NICE, GOOD.

AND THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT A WIDE ENOUGH CAMERA FOR THIS SCREENSHOT 1, 2, 3.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP AGENDA

[7.  Presentation of Graduates of the 2022 Team Kyle Academy. ~ James R. Earp, Assistant City Manager]

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

PRESENTATION OF GRADUATES OF THE 2022 TEAM KYLE ACADEMY, MR. JAMES, OR WE DID SOME MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.

WE HAVE, UH, JAMES AARP, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

I'M JOINED BY JULIE CROOKSTON.

GO AHEAD.

JULIE CROOKSTON AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

UM, WE HAD A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL, UH, CITIZENS WHO WENT THROUGH THE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY WHO HAVE NOW COMPLETED THEIR REQUIREMENTS.

UH, MOSTLY THE 55 PAGE PAPER THAT WE MADE THEM WRITE A LITTLE WHILE TO TURN IN.

SO YOU'LL BE GRADING THOSE RESETS.

SO I WILL BE CALLING OUT THE NAMES AND THEN JULIA WILL BE PRESENTING THE CERTIFICATES.

SO, UH, FIRST WE HAVE SUSAN CARTON STAND UP.

NICE MARCO ABOUT DORIS KENDALL BUYERS AND SUSAN JANE REYNA.

HERE WE GO.

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COUNCIL MEMBER FOR, SORRY.

YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT HIDDEN, KIND OF FIND THAT WINDOW.

ALRIGHT.

ON THE COUNT OF 3, 1, 2, 3.

PERFECT.

THANK Y'ALL ALL RIGHT.

NEXT

[8.  

Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ J. Scott Sellers, City Manager

 

  • Budget Workshops
  • Boards and Commissions Openings
  • James Adkins Pool Public Swim Day - June 24
  • July is Parks and Recreation Month
  • 2022 Independence Day Fireworks Show – July 4
  • Pie in the Sky Day Celebration - Sept. 3
  • State of the City - June 28
  • Summer Reading Program
  • New Employees
]

UP.

SEE MANAGER REPORT.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL WAIT FOR THAT TO LOAD UP.

THERE WE GO.

MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, TONIGHT ON THE CITY MANAGER REPORT, WE HAVE THE AGENDA.

FIRST ITEM, GO AHEAD AND SCROLL THROUGH THERE.

I'M NOT SURE WHO'S GOT THE CONTROLS TONIGHT.

HERE WE GO.

UH, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT AND I WILL START OFF WITH THE NEXT SLIDE BUDGET WORK SESSIONS.

SO A WORK SESSION.

NUMBER TWO IS JULY 7TH, COUNCIL PRIORITIES, UH, AND THE, THE DEBT PICTURE OF THE CITY ARE GOING TO BE, UH, TWO LARGE TOPICS.

AND THEN WE'LL GIVE, UH, AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THE BUDGET, UH, FROM WORK SESSION NUMBER ONE.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THREE BIG PILLARS EXPECTED FOR WORK SESSION NUMBER TWO, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE, THE AGENDA FOR WORK SESSIONS THREE THROUGH FIVE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, JUST A REMINDER.

WE'VE MENTIONED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT WE ARE IN OPEN APPLICATION SEASON FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES.

SO PLEASE, UH, FOR ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SERVE, UH, GO TO CITY OF KYLE.COM/BC.

AND YOU WILL FIND AN APPLICATION FOR THE OPEN SEATS NEXT TO ELECT TO BRING UP, UM, MARIANNA ESPENOSA THE EVENING, MARIANA SPINOZA PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

THIS FRIDAY, THE JAMES ATKINS POOL WILL OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC.

UH, RIGHT NOW THE SCHEDULE IS OPEN ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS FROM ONE TO FIVE 30.

AND THEN WITH JULY, JUST AROUND THE CORNER, JULY IS PARKS RECREATION MONTH.

WE HAVE A MONTH LONG FILLED OF ACTIVITIES BEGINNING WITH NEXT SET TODAY.

UH, WE HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING OF OUR BUTTON CREEK, UM, BIRD FLU VIEWING STATION.

AND THAT WILL BE AT 10:00 AM NEXT SATURDAY.

AND WE'LL COME BACK WITH ALL THE REST OF THE EVENTS FOR THE WHOLE MONTH, THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY.

UM, AND THEN ON MONDAY, JULY 4TH, WE HAVE OUR 4TH OF JULY FIREWORKS SHOW.

THE FIREWORKS SHOW WILL BE LAUNCHED FROM THE PLUM CREEK GOLF COURSE ISSUE AS I HAVE IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.

UM, PARKING IS ENCOURAGED AT THE HAYES PERFORMING ARTS CENTER AND SURROUNDING AREAS AND THE FIREWORKS SHOW.

UM, IF YOU LISTEN TO 88.7 FM, YOU CAN HEAR FIREWORKS MUSIC AS YOU WATCH THE 20 MINUTE SHOW.

UM, AND IT WILL BE NO SPECTATORS AT PLUM CREEK GOLF COURSE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN PARK IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND AROUND 9:30 PM IS LUNCHTIME, APPROXIMATELY 30, AND THEN JUST A SAVE THE DATE FOR THE, THIS JERRY'S ANNUAL PIE IN THE SKY EVENT, IT IS GOING TO BE A ONE DAY EVENT DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF BLAKE KYLE PARK.

SO THIS YEAR'S EVENT WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD, FROM 12 TO EIGHT AT THE GREG CLARK PARK.

UM, IT WILL INCLUDE TWO STAGES, UH, ENTERTAINMENT AND LIVE BANDS.

THE EVENT WILL BE FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

UH, THERE WILL BE FOUR TETHERED, HOT AIR BALLOONS THAT WILL BE FOR AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE IF, UM, PARTICIPANTS CHOOSE TO HAVE TETHERED RIDES.

UM, THE ESTIMATED OVERALL EXPENDITURES FOR THAT EVENT FOR THE ONE DAY ARE 40,000.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WE HAVE RACHEL SODA COMMUNICATIONS UH, RACHEL SUNDAY, INTERIM DIRECTOR COMMUNICATIONS.

SO WE HAVE OUR STATE OF THE CITY COMING UP ON TUESDAY, JUNE 28TH, FROM 1130 TO ONE 30 AT TEXAS OLD TOWN.

UH, THIS IS AN EVENT HOSTED BY THE KYLE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.

TICKETS ARE ON SALE AND SPONSORSHIPS ARE ON SALE@THEKYLECHAMBER.ORG, BUT THE, UH, STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS ACTUAL SPEECH WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR FREE, UM, ON THE CITY WEBSITE AFTERWARDS.

AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING, PLEASE CHECK OUT THE CALENDAR THATPAGE@CITYKYLE.COM SLASH CALENDAR.

THEN WE HAVE PAUL FAILING OKAY, GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR COUNCIL.

I'M PAUL FALLON DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.

OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM IS GOING

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PRETTY STRONG RIGHT NOW, AND WE DO HAVE SOME EVENT EVENTS I'D LIKE TO KEEP YOU APPRISED OF.

SO THIS 30 THURSDAY, WE HAVE THE LION, THE WITCH AND THE WARDROBE THAT'S FROM ONE TO 4:00 PM, JUNE 23RD ON FRIDAY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GREAT PROGRAMS. THE BUZZ ABOUT BEES WITH KIM LEHMANN, A VERY EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM ABOUT BEEKEEPING, THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY'RE IMPORTANT IN OUR ECOSYSTEM IN TERMS OF POLLINATORS.

THE ALL AGE PRESENTATION WILL BE FRIDAY, JUNE 24TH, FROM ONE TO 2:00 PM.

AND THEN FROM TWO TO 3:00 PM, WE HAVE A PROGRAM BY THE SAME PRESENTER, ALL OF YOUR BEES WAX, ANYBODY CAN COME TO IT, BUT IT'S KIND OF GEARED MORE TOWARD THE TEENS.

SO WE'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO GET THE TEENS OUT.

IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY LIKE TO COME TO THIS, IT SHOULD BE A LOT OF FUN.

THE FOLLOWING THURSDAY, WE HAVE THE HG WELLS TIME MACHINE, THURSDAY, MOVIE MATINEE.

THAT'S JUNE 30TH FROM ONE TO 4:00 PM.

AND THEN ON THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY, THE NEXT SATURDAY, WE HAVE AUSTIN REPTILES.

THAT'S JULY 2ND FROM 11 TO 1:00 PM.

SO I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN COME BY AND CHECK OUT THE PROGRAMS. WE'VE HAD SOME VERY GOOD ATTENDANCE SO FAR.

AND JUST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO HAVE ONGOING.

IF YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THE KYLE CHESS FEDERATION NOW ON MONDAYS AT 4:30 PM.

SO FOLKS THAT WANT TO COME OUT AND LEARN TO PLAY CHESS OR GET BETTER AND START PLAYING COMPETITIVELY.

THAT'S A REALLY COOL THING.

WE DO THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LIONHEART HOBBY, OPEN TABLE, DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS.

THAT IS A TUESDAY PROGRAM AT 5:00 PM.

THESE ARE ONGOING PROGRAMS. AND OF COURSE ON THE FOURTH THURSDAY, WHICH IS THIS THURSDAY IS WHY I'M SAYING WE HAVE THE KPO GAMERS.

SO WE HAVE VARIOUS GAMES FOR THE TEENS TO DO.

THAT'S A TEEN PROGRAM AND, AND A NEW PROGRAM.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF ATTENDANCE YET, BUT WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL.

SO IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT IS IS LEARNING ENGLISH, BUT WOULD LIKE TO COME TO A PROGRAM AND IMPROVE THAT WE ON THURSDAYS AT 6:30 PM, WE HAVE THE ESL CONVERSATION GROUP THAT MARY VAN FOLSOM IS A STAFF MEMBER AND SHE RUNS THAT.

AND SO SOME FOLKS THAT MIGHT JUST WANT TO COME OUT AND BE RELAXED AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS.

AND AS A LANGUAGE LEARNER MYSELF, I KNOW YOU GET CONSCIOUS.

SELF-CONSCIOUS ABOUT MAKING MISTAKES ALL THE TIME, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTS WHERE YOU CAN SIT AROUND AND TALK AND KIND OF GET MORE FLUENT WITHOUT THEM TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, PAUL.

THEN WE HAVE SANDRA DRAIN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, SANDRA DURAN, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES FOR THE RECORD.

AND WE'VE BEEN BUSY THIS, UH, A COUPLE OF FEW MONTHS WE'VE BEEN HIRING.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A NEW TEAM MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE CHASE BEARD CIRCULATION, DESK CLERK, SHANNON MCCONVILLE AND KPD ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

DAVID AMSLER IS OUR MANAGEMENT ANALYST, JESSE BARBRA POLICE OFFICER.

AND WE HAVE JACQUELINE GONZALEZ, PUBLIC WORKS CLERK AND TECHNICIANS FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

WE HAVE TYLER TO GOODNESS, COLEMAN SALAZAR, JAMES DODDS, MICHAEL VAN WRINKLE, AND JOHN PRICE.

WE'VE ALSO HIRED ABOUT 23 SEASONAL EMPLOYEES FOR THE CAMP AND THE POOL.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE AT THIS MEETING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BROOKE, IF HE, SHE CAN STAND UP SHE'S BACK THERE.

UH, BROOKE COMES FROM THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK AND WE HIRED HER AS A RECREATION PROGRAMMER.

SHE HAS SEVEN YEARS OVERSEEING SPECIAL EVENTS, OUTDOOR EDUCATION, ATHLETIC AND RECREATION PROGRAMS. AND SHE HAS A BACHELOR'S IN SPORTS MANAGEMENT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS.

SO WELCOME BACK THERE.

AND THEN I'LL CALL, UM, JENNIFER TO INTRODUCE HER NEW EMPLOYEE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M SO EXCITED TO INTRODUCE THE CITY'S NEWEST ASSISTANT CITY SECRETARY, EMILY HUGHES SHE'S IN THE BACK THERE.

UH, EMILY COMES TO US FROM TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE WHERE SHE SUPPORTED THE TEXAS CITY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION.

SHE HAS A MASTER'S OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM THE, UH, FROM ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY.

SHE LOVES HIKING AND PARTICIPATING IN, SO SHE'S READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING HERE AT CLEVER.

GOT A QUESTION ON THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

FIRST OF ALL, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I KNOW EVERYONE CAN'T MAKE THE EVENING MEETING, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN STAFF DOES GET INTRODUCED PUBLICLY, UH, WELCOME, UH, BROOKE AND MLA, CERTAINLY TO THE TEAM.

UM, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN GREAT HANDS, MLA WITH JENNIFER AND BROOKE IS AN AWESOME PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE.

SO I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE IT EVEN MORE THAN ROUND ROCK.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, WELCOME TO THE TEAM.

UH, SECOND REAL QUICK NOTE ABOUT PAUL.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING

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UP THAT THURSDAY EVENING, UH, ENGLISH LANGUAGE CLASS.

THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT.

AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING GET THAT WORD OUT.

UH, MY, MY FINAL TRUE QUESTION HERE IS, UH, SO ONE OF YOUR ITEMS HERE WAS THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS, AND WE DID GET AN EMAIL FROM YOU, UH, RECENTLY ABOUT, UM, UH, THE DEADLINE FOR THE OR THE EXEMPTIONS ON PROPERTY TAXES.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD AS A COUNCIL AGREED TO DISCUSS THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET SEASON.

UM, ON TOP OF THAT, WE DID GET THE EMAIL FROM PAGE, UH, AND THAT WAS MY AGENDA ITEM.

UH, THAT WAS UNDERSTANDABLY SO ACCORDING TO OUR RULES, UH, REJECTED FROM BEING ON THIS AGENDA.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. SELLERS, IS THERE ANYTHING AGAINST US AS A COUNCIL, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION FOR YOU TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE BEGINNING OF JULY SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN WEIGH IN ON PROVIDING EXEMPTIONS IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEADLINE FOR NEXT YEAR? I, WELL, LET'S GET A DISCOUNT.

SO THAT'S THE RECORD.

I USUALLY CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY.

IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ME CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, I APPRECIATE THE DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE, TO DIRECT FOR THE COUNCIL, DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, UM, PREFERABLY THIS WEEK, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A JULY 1ST DEADLINE.

UM, AND IF IT DOESN'T PASS UNANIMOUSLY ON FIRST READING, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND READING BEFORE JULY 1ST.

SO THAT'S WHY THE PRESSURE FOR TIME ON THIS PARTICULAR WEEK.

UM, SO MY MOTION IS TO HAVE COUNCIL DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER CALLED A SPECIAL MEETING THIS WEEK WITH THE AGENDA ITEM FOR DIRECTION ON, UH, EXEMPTIONS ON PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER ELLISON.

SECOND BY CUSTOMER FLOORS, KALE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL THIS WEEK RELATED TO HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS THERE, DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

IS THIS A LAWFUL EMOTIONAL, UNLAWFUL, LAWFUL ITEM, CONSIDERING THAT IT'S CITY MANAGER'S REPORT IT'S LAW FOR, FOR THE COUNCIL TO REQUEST AND YOU HAVE TO LIMIT DISCUSSION TO JUST CALLING THE MEETING ON THE ITEM.

THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SO THE MOTION IS LAWFUL LIMIT DISCUSSION.

I'M SORRY.

UM, I'M THE, THE MOTION IS LAWFUL.

IF COUNSEL IS GOING TO DISCUSS THE MOTION, IT HAS TO BE LIMITED TO WHETHER TO HAVE THE MEETING OR NOT, BUT NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

OKAY.

UM, WOULD, WOULD, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR CALENDARS AND DETERMINE WHEN WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT MEETING MAY PROTEST THE PAGE.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION.

SO MAKING SURE THAT WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO THIS RIGHT.

SO THAT WAY NOTHING COMES BACK AND BITES US LATER.

IF WE TAKE SOME ACTION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ACTION THAT WE TAKE LATER WHEN IT COMES TO THE ITEM THAT WE'RE PROPOSING GETS THROUGH.

OKAY.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY.

SO WITH RESPECT TO THE ITEM YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE COUNCIL CAN LAWFULLY.

IF AN ITEM COMES UP, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

YOU CAN, YOUR ANY DELIBERATION IS LIMITED TO ASKING THAT THE ITEM BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

AND SO THAT CAN BE REQUESTED AND THEN INTO DISCUSSION.

AND ACTION IS LIMITED TO WHETHER THAT ITEM WILL BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

SO THIS DISCUSSION HERE IS APPROPRIATE.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT MOTION AND VOTE, AND THEN YOUR MEETING THAT YOU HOLD ON, THE ITEM HAS TO BE HELD IN COMPLIANCE WITH OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND ALL THOSE THAT'S WHAT I, I GUESS IS WHERE I'M MAKING SURE WE'RE OKAY.

WE'RE CROSSING OUR T'S DOTTING OUR I'S.

SO WE, UH, WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA IS FOR CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING? THE CRITERIA ARE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN REQUEST A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING UNDER THE CHARTER.

YOU CAN DIRECT THE COUNTY, THE CITY MANAGER TO SET THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.

THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL STILL NEED TO ADHERE TO OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

SO IT'D BE 72 HOURS.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

SO THAT MEANS IT HAS TO BE FRIDAY EITHER FRIDAY NIGHT OR NEON, CORRECT.

OKAY.

LET ME SATURDAY MORNING.

UM, IT'S JUST NOT AVAILABLE FRIDAY EVENING AND I'M AVAILABLE SO I CAN RESCHEDULE MY WORK SCHEDULE SATURDAY, IF NEED BE.

BUT FRIDAY EVENING, THAT'S THE ONLY DAY I CAN DO IT TOMORROW.

I CAN DO A THURSDAY.

IT'S JUST FRIDAY.

I HAVE AN EVENT ACTUALLY DOWNTOWN.

THAT WAS PRE-PLANNED WITH THURSDAY NIGHT.

B

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NO, STATUTORILY LIMITED THE FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SATURDAY MORNING.

YEAH, I'M AVAILABLE.

IT'S VERY MORNING AS WELL.

SATURDAY MORNING, THE EARLIER THE BETTER I DO, I I'LL HAVE TO REQUEST OFF WORK, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT OF ME TO DO IT.

YEAH, I HAVE, I HAVE A WORK OBLIGATION MYSELF, BUT I CAN ARRANGE TO GO IN LATER ON THAT MORNING.

SO EIGHT O'CLOCK IS THAT AMENABLE TO EVERYONE, NOT ME.

I CAN'T MAKE IT AT THIS THIS WEEK.

WE NEED AT LEAST FORTH.

AND IF YOU CAN ATTEND VIRTUALLY OUTSIDE OF THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT AS WELL.

I COULD VIRTUALLY MY CAMP HERE PHYSICALLY.

ONLY FOUR OF US HAVE TO BE HERE PHYSICALLY.

I CAN COMMIT TO BEING HERE AND MAKE THE CHANGES IN MY PERSONAL LIFE TO DO THAT.

IF THE ACCOUNTS, IF THREE, OTHERS CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

HI, AGAIN, I CAN BE HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT CONSENSUS.

YEAH.

IT COULD BE YOUR OWN SURVEY.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO ALSO ADD AN ITEM TO CALL A FOLLOW-UP MEETING.

SOUNDS LIKE ON THAT AGENDA, CORRECT? YEAH, IT WAS A MOTION A SECOND.

ARE YOU GOING TO COMPLETE THE WELL, THE DIRECTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER CAN POST ON THE AGENDA, THE ITEM TO CALL THE FOLLOW-UP MEETING AS WELL.

SO IF I NEED, DO I NEED TO AMEND MY MOTION? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT PAGE? WELL, COUNSEL TOOK A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO, OKAY.

WELL THE MOTION, THE SECOND WAS TO CALL A MEETING THIS WEEK.

WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED WHEN THAT MEETING WOULD BE.

SO THE CITY MANAGER WOULDN'T CALL IT ON THAT DAY, BUT HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ITEM, THE ITEM COMING FORWARD AS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BUT IT DOESN'T, HE'S NOT PREVENTED FROM ADDING ADDITIONAL ITEMS. RIGHT.

SO IT SHOULD BE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I MAY, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR WOULD BE AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY.

THIS IS IMPORTANT SATURDAY MORNING.

IT'S MY MAN.

THANK YOU FOR THIS.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

SAY NAY MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP

[9.  CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]

CIP ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.

MR. BARBA.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.

BY THE WAY THAT POLICE OFFICER NAMED JESSE BARBARA IS RELATED, UH, WE WILL BE MEETING FOR THE FIRST TIME.

SO ON THE HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 96% COMPLETE.

WE'RE GETTING THERE.

WE'RE FINISHING OUT THE GRANITE THAT THE HUNTER WALL AND THE PORCELAIN INSTALL HAS BEGUN.

UH, THE RING WALL GRANITE INSTALLATION IS IN PROGRESS.

LANDSCAPING AND PLANNINGS ARE IN PROGRESS.

THE WATER FEATURE WIRING FOR THE EQUIPMENT IS ONGOING.

UH, THE PUMP EQUIPMENT TESTING IS PENDING AND THE REASON IT'S PENDING IS BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET SOME WATER IN THAT POND.

UH, HELLO, OF COURSE, HE'S GOING TO BE ASSISTING WHEN, TRY TO GET SOME WATER INTO THAT POND.

UH, THE EXPECTED COMPLETION DATE IS JULY 11 OF THE PARK.

UH, WE'RE AT ABOUT 54% COMPLETE.

THE PLAYGROUND INSTALLED IS ONGOING NEARING COMPLETION.

UH, THEY'RE INSTALLING SIDEWALKS, CURB TOGETHER AND CRUSHED GRANITE TRAILS.

THEY'RE ALSO PREPARING FOR THE ROOFING AT THE PAVILION.

UH, THE IRRIGATION INSTALLED IS ALSO IN PROGRESS AND THEY'RE BRINGING IN SOME TUFTS A LITTLE NEXT WEEK.

UH, THE EXPECTED COMPLETION DATE IS LATE 2022 PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

UH, WE'RE ABOUT 35% COMPLETE ON THAT.

UH, THEY'RE WE'RE ON PHASE ONE, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE WEATHER BARRIER ON PHASE ONE THROUGH THREE, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE OVERHEAD AND THEN WALK COPPER PIPING AND DONE SOME FRAMING INSPECTIONS ON PHASE TWO AND THREE.

THEY'RE WORKING ON THE MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING ROUGH IN ON PHASE THREE, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE WINDOW FLASHING AND BLOCKING.

UH, THEY DID COMPLETE THE SOUTH PARKING AND, UH, THE, UH, CAR PORT PEERS, UH, ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE WORKING ON THE METAL DUCT WORK, UH, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE IS FEBRUARY 6TH, 2023 SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS.

THEY ARE PACED PAY ESTIMATES WERE STILL ABOUT 95% COMPLETE.

UH, THE CONTRACTOR IS COORDINATING HIS TRAFFIC INSTALLATION THERE ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD WAS A SUBCONTRACTOR.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO NEED COORDINATE WITH TEXTILE ON THAT.

WE ARE LOOKING AT UTILITIES, MAKING SURE THEY'RE CLEAR TO THOSE.

AND THE NEXT SESSION WILL BE RIGHT THERE BY THE EDWARDS DRIVE AND WE'LL CONNECT TO POST-STROKE.

THAT'LL BE THE LAST MAJOR SECTION OF THAT PROJECT, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION.

I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THE PROJECT ITSELF HAS COMPLETE, UH, AND BASED ON THE ESTIMATES OF THE DEEPWATER FACILITY, WE'RE ABOUT 25% COMPLETE.

AND, UH, THEY ARE WORKING ON SOME REHABILITATION OF THAT.

BULLS-EYE PLANT NUMBER TWO, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE BEGINNING NEXT, UH, THIS WEEK OF SATURDAY WORK DAYS.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT ANYMORE.

THEY'RE GOING TO DISCONTINUE THAT AND WE EXPECTED THE WATER FACILITY TO BE COMPLETE IN AUGUST OF 2022.

WE'RE ALSO HAVING PROBLEMS WITH SUPPLY CHAIN

[01:25:01]

DELAYS I'LL POST ROAD.

UH, THEY CAN, UH, CONSTRUCTION STILL CONTINUE ON THE NORTH END.

UH, THEY DID COMPLETE THEIR THIRD LAYER OF BASE.

UH, THEY ARE STARTING TO PLACE THE FOURTH LAYER BASED ON A PORTION OF THE ROAD AND THEY SHOULD BE STARTING TOMORROW.

IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTION, THEY WILL ALSO BE STARTING ON A STORM DRAIN THAT'S ON THE NORTH END LATER THIS WEEK, OR PROBABLY NEXT WEEK ON THAT ONLY BRANCH SENSOR INTERCEPTOR.

YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT EARLIER.

UH, WE'RE ABOUT 68% COMPLETE.

WE STILL HAVE SOME ROADS CLOSE TO THROUGH TRAFFIC.

UH, THEY COMPLETED, OR THEY'RE WORKING ON THE TESTING OF THE WATER LINES THAT HAVE JUST BEEN INSTALLED AND ALL THE SERVICES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER WEATHER BITE SPOTS OF THAT PROJECT PROJECT RIGHT NOW IS AT THAT BRADFORD METALS LIFT STATION IS OFFLINE.

IT'S SHUT.

WE'RE DONE WITH THAT.

SO ALL THE FLOWS THAT ARE IN THERE AND GRAVITY, WE DON'T HAVE A LIFT STATION ANYMORE.

IT'S GONE A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION SCHEDULE FOR FALL OF 2022.

UH, WHILE WE WERE HEARING THOSE FIRST COMMENTS, I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR PROJECT MANAGER IS, UH, WE LOST HER PROJECT MANAGER ON THAT PREDICTOR ELLIOT BRANCH.

HE MOVED ON TO A BETTER JOB, I GUESS I HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY FOR HIM, BUT, UH, YVONNE GILL VIA WAS PICKING UP AS A PROJECT MANAGER ON THAT PROJECT.

SO SHE JUST GOT STARTED ON IT.

SO SHE'S ALREADY TEXTED ME AND SAID SHE WILL GET WITH THE INSPECTOR AND THEY WILL MEET WITH THE RESIDENT ON THOSE ISSUES THAT SHE BROUGHT UP AND THEY ALSO HAVE A DUST ISSUE.

SO OUT HER, HE HEARD ABOUT THAT TOO DOWNTOWN RELOCATION OF OVERHEAD LINES.

UH, THIS IS THE CITY'S PORTION OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE PEC ESTIMATED COMPLETION.

IT'S STILL AT 74%.

THE PEC CREW IS WORKING ON MOORE STREET AND THEY'RE ESTIMATING TO BE COMPLETED BY MIDDLE OF JULY.

WE'RE ALSO COORDINATED WITH PEC FOR SWITCHING SERVICES BY THE END OF JULY AND PREVENTS.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR WHEN THE POLES WOULD COME DOWN? THAT MEANS THE POLES DOWN ON CENTER STREET.

I ASKED SPECIFICALLY ON THE PROJECT, I HAD READ THE POLLS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.

SHE SAID, THEY'RE LOOKING AT BELIEFS SEPTEMBER.

BY THE TIME EVERYTHING GETS MOVED AND RELOCATED.

THIS IS ONE OF OUR NEWER PROJECTS.

WE JUST ISSUED THE NOTICE TO PROCEED ON OUR ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AND A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS SUPPOSED TO BE 90 DAYS.

AND WE'LL HAVE FOUND COMPLETION DATE IN ABOUT 120 DAYS.

THOSE LITTLE POSTS THAT YOU SEE HANGING OUT FROM THE TOP OF THAT PARTICULAR ATTIRE, THOSE WERE WHERE THESE SHOUTINGS AND BE HUNG FROM.

SO JUST IN CASE YOU THINK WE'RE ADDING STUFF TO IT, WE'RE NOT, THAT'S JUST FOR THE SURROUNDING

[VI.  Consent Agenda]

CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBER 11 IS AN AMENDMENT TO A TASK ORDER FOR K FREES AND ASSOCIATES FOR ADDITIONAL WORK THEY HAD TO DO ON THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT.

WE HAD TO REBID THAT PROJECT.

SO THERE WAS ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WAS CREATED FOR THE REBATING PROCESS ON NUMBER 15, THAT'S A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE APPROVED TO ONE APPROVE WITH THE BIRCH DENIAL.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME MODELING FOR THE KYLE MARKETPLACE DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A PASS THROUGH THE DEVELOPER IS PAYING FOR THAT SERVICE.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PRINT THE MODEL AND THEN GIVE THEM THE RESULTS OF THAT MODEL.

THE REASON WE WANTED TO PUSH THIS ONE ON THROUGH IS BECAUSE THAT IS A FOUR STORY BUILDING.

WE HAVE ABOUT 50 PSI IN THAT AREAS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOURTH FLOOR WASN'T GOING TO HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE RUNNING THE MODEL.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KILLED TO BRING UP A POINT ABOUT ONE OF THE ITEMS IN OUR PROPOSAL.

IT MENTIONED USING 2018 DATA.

AND THAT WAS WHEN WE GOT THE PROPOSAL.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAD AT THE LATEST.

WE JUST, I JUST FOUND OUT RECENTLY THEY DO HAVE THE 20, 21 THAT WE JUST GAVE THEM.

AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BE USING 2021 DATA FOR THAT.

SO THAT'LL BE BETTER INFORMATION FOR US TO USE NUMBER 17, MARION COUNCIL.

YOU SAW THIS SITE AND BACK IN JUNE OF 2021, IT'S THE SIMILAR ITEM WE AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO ALLOW THEM CONSTRUCTION FOR DOING THIS PARTICULAR WORK ON CENTER STREET, PHASE ONE, THEIR ESTIMATE OR THEIR CONSTRUCTION COST IS AROUND 500,000.

AND THE NEXT BIDDER WAS AROUND 800,000.

SO WE WENT WITH THE LOW BID, WHICH WAS LAB CONSTRUCTION.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AFTER WE OPENED THE BIDS, WE GOT APPROVAL FROM TXDOT TO BE ABLE TO DO AN OPEN CUT ON HILL STREET INSTEAD OF DOING A BORE.

AND OUR BELIEF WAS THAT WE WOULD GET A BETTER PRICE.

WELL, THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

BUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, ALL THE PRICES STARTED GOING UP.

NEXT THING WE KNEW THE CONTRACT WAS ASKING FOR NOT ONLY WHAT THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT PRICE, BUT WHAT ABOVE THE 5% CONTINGENCY AT THAT POINT, WE SAID, NO, WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS OUT FOR REBID.

SO WE TOOK BIDS RECENTLY.

WE DID GET SEVERAL BITTERS AND REWARDING IT TO THE LOW BIDDER, DID WITHDRAW THEIR BID.

THEY WERE AROUND 500,000.

THE SECOND BIDDER IS AROUND 600,000.

AND THE REASON WE WENT UP TO 660,000 IS WE WANTED TO USE SOME NEW MANHOLES.

THEY'RE POLYMER TREATED MANHOLES.

THEY'RE ALMOST INDESTRUCTIBLE.

THESE ARE DEEP MANHOLES, PRETTY GOOD SIZED LINE.

THESE THINGS DON'T NEED CODING.

LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH INDESTRUCTIBLE.

SO READING A DEAL WITH THESE NEW MANHOLES, AND THESE WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE EVER USED THESE UPCOMING PROJECTS.

WE JUST STARTED EROSION CONTROLS ON THE INDIAN PAINTBRUSH LIFT STATION.

AND THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE TO UPGRADE THAT PARTICULAR LIFT STATION TO HAVE GREATER CAPACITY

[01:30:01]

THERE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A LIFT STATION AT SOUTH LAKE AND BUTTON CREEK ARE BEING DECOMMISSIONED BECAUSE OF THE BENT CREEK APPS INTERCEPTOR THANKING HIS SOUTH LAKE IS OFFLINE.

IF SOME OF YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT PARTICULAR LIFT STATION, BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

IT'S GONE.

AND THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE THE BUNK CREEK INTERCEPTOR.

SO WE'LL HAVE TWO MORE LIFT STATIONS OUT OF COMMISSION MICROSERVICE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING AT IN JULY OF THIS MONTH, COMING UP NEXT MONTH, COMING UP, I'M WAITING FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO GIVE US A SCHEDULE.

AND SO WE CAN GET THAT ON TO YOU AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND THE CITIZENS ALSO, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR LEON MAYOR PRO TIP KELLY ON REAL QUICK ON THE THIRD STREET PROJECT, UH, WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A RESIDENT THAT CAME OUT AND TALKED ABOUT HER DRAINAGE.

DID WE, UH, GET THAT, UH, UH, ADDRESSED, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE INSPECTOR ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SOUNDS GOOD.

I BELIEVE WE DID, BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK AND HE SENT ME AN EMAIL AND THAT APPRECIATE IT.

I WILL DO THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU FOLLOW UP WITH ALL OF US ON THAT EMAIL, SO WE'RE ALL PRIVY TO IT.

UM, I JUST, SORRY WERE, UM, ONE, I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT A PROJECT MANAGER, YVONNE, AS I CALL HER IS BEING PLACED ON, UH, MOVED OVER TO THAT.

UH, THE PROJECT WE DISCUSSED ON, SHE DID, UH, FROM EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN IN, IN WAS PRIVY TO ON THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION.

SHE DID ONE HECK OF A JOB.

SO WE'RE PRETTY, I'M PRETTY THRILLED TO HEAR THAT SHE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO OVERSEE ONE OF OUR, UH, VERY IMPORTANT PROJECTS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE NOW.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WISH TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? CUSTOMER FORCE CAP.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PULL AGENDA ITEM 12 FOR CLARIFICATION AND THAT'S IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, WELL, HANG ON ONE SECOND.

DOES HE, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WANT TO PULL? ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD, COUNSELOR.

FOR FOUR SKILLS.

I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS. 10, 11, 13 THROUGH 21 SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION IS MADE BY COUNSELOR FORCE KALE SECOND BY CUSTOMER TO BE ASKED THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 AND 11 AS WELL AS 13 THROUGH 21.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

[VII.  Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]

UH, NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, SECOND READING AND ORDINANCE, UH, GRANTING TO UNIVERSAL NATURAL GAS LLC AND ITS SUCCESS RESOURCE SIGNED A 10 YEAR, UM, UM, RIGHT AWAY AGREEMENT, UH, DECIDED MS. MR. HENDRIX, UH, CUSTOMER FLOW SCALE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST, I WAS READING THE BACKUP MATERIAL IN THE ORDINANCE AND I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED.

UM, MY CONCERN IS WITH ASSIGNMENTS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CAN'T JUST BE ASSIGNED TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND I FEEL LIKE THERE IS, UM, LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT KIND OF GOES AGAINST ITSELF.

SO IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, THE NINTH SENTENCE DOWN, UM, IT SAYS PROVIDING FOR ASSIGNMENT SELLER LEASE OF THE FRANCHISE.

BUT THEN IN SECTION, I THINK IT'S THREE, IT PROHIBITS ASSIGNMENTS.

SO IF I CAN GET SOME CLARIFICATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, AND UM, IF THEY CAN ASSIGN THIS, IF THE GAS COMPANY CAN ASSIGN US, I'M GONNA HAVE TO LEAN ON LEGAL FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

DO YOU MIND IT'S YOU SAID SECTION THREE, WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE? SURE.

IT SAYS THE FIRST ONE IS IN THE FIRST, THE VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH, THE NINTH SENTENCE DOWN.

AND IT ALSO SAYS IT IN THE AGENDA ITEM INFORMATION TALKS ABOUT PROVIDING FOR ASSIGNMENT STILL, OR AT LEAST TO THE FRANCHISE FOR FIGHTING FORCE.

OKAY.

SO THE FIRST PARAGRAPH BEING THE CAPTION WOULD JUST BE A GENERAL STATEMENT OF THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROVISION IN THE DOCUMENT THAT ADDRESSES ASSIGNMENT.

SO THAT'S, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH, THAT'S ALL CAPS, THAT'S JUST AS DESCRIPTION OF WHAT'S IN THE DOCUMENT.

SO THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE FIRST PART.

AND THEN THE SECOND.

YEAH, THE SECOND ONE, JUST BE TO CONFIRM THAT THEY CANNOT ASSIGN THIS WITHOUT COUNCIL PERMISSION.

THAT IS CORRECT IN SECTION THREE, YOU'RE RIGHT AT CAN THEY CANNOT SELL, TRANSFER OR SIGN THE FRANCHISE WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION OF CITY COUNCIL EXPRESS BY ORDINANCE.

AND THAT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR CHARTER AS WELL THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT REQUIREMENT IN THERE.

OKAY.

WELL WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION MADE BY COUNSELOR FLOORS, KALE SECONDED BY CUSTOMER TOBIA THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM.

NUMBER 12 IS A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES

[01:35:01]

SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS CONSIDERING A POSSIBLE ACTION

[22.  Consideration and approval of a resolution of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas, Authorizing the acceptance of certain revenues in the tax increment fund from Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number Two, City of Kyle, Texas to pay certain project costs, including projects to be financed by the City through the issuance of Certificates of Obligation; Agreeing to be reimbursed by TIRZ #2 for all annual debt service payments on the Certificates of Obligation until their stated maturity or prior redemption; Making findings of fact; and Other matters in connection therewith. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP]

[23.  Consideration and approval of a resolution approving the City’s plan of finance pertaining to the contemplated issuance of obligations to be designated as “City of Kyle, Texas Combination Tax and Limited Pledge Revenue Certificates of Obligation, Series 2022”; Authorizing City staff and the City’s financial advisor and bond counsel to proceed with this plan of finance; and Authorizing other matters related to the foregoing. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP]

[24.  

Consideration and approval of a resolution approving the City’s plan of finance pertaining to the contemplated issuance of obligations to be designated as “City of Kyle, Texas General Obligation Bonds, Series 2022”; Authorizing City staff and the City’s financial advisor and bond counsel to proceed with this plan of finance; and Authorizing other matters related to the foregoing. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP

]

[25.  Consideration and approval of a resolution relating to Establishing the City’s intention to reimburse itself for the prior lawful expenditure of funds relating to constructing various city improvements from the proceeds of tax-exempt obligations to be issued by the City for authorized purposes; Authorizing other matters incident and related thereto; and Providing an effective date. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP]

ITEMS. 22 THROUGH 25 ARE ALL RELATED TO THE SAME ITEMS. SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO BRING THEM ALL UP AT THE SAME TIME.

UH, ITEM 22 IS CONSIDERED AN APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY OF CALTEX IS AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF CERTAIN REVENUES IN THE TAX INCREMENT FUND FROM, UH, TERJE NUMBER TWO, UH, AGENDA ITEM 23 IS CONSIDERED AN APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CITY'S PLAN FOR FINANCE PERTAINING TO THE COMPLETED ISSUANCE OF OBLIGATIONS TO BE DESIGNATED AS CITY OF KYLE, UH, TEXAS, UH, REVENUES CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS.

HERE'S 2022 AGENDA ITEM 24 IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CITY'S PLAN OF FINANCE PERTAINING TO THE CONTEMPLATED ISSUANCE OF OBLIGATIONS TO BE DESIGNATED OF CITY OF KYLE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SERIES 2022 AND AGENDA ITEM 25 IS CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION RELATED, UH, RELATING TO ESTABLISHING THE CITY'S INTENTION TO REIMBURSE ITSELF FOR THE PRIOR LAWFUL EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS RELATED TO CONSTRUCTING VARIOUS CITY IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE PROCEEDS OF TAX EXEMPT OBLIGATIONS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY, STEPHANIE LADDIE, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER, STEPHANIE LIMA WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT, OR FROM SARAH SAYS BUNK COUNSEL FOR THE CITY.

AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT EACH OF THESE ACTION ITEMS. SO RELATED TO ACTION ITEM NUMBER 22, UH, PRIOR TO TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING TOURIST, NUMBER TWO DID HAVE, OR THE BOARD OF TOURIST.

NUMBER TWO DID HAVE A MEETING AT WHICH THEY ADOPTED A RESOLUTION, UM, TO REQUEST THE CITY'S ASSISTANCE WITH FINANCING OF CERTAIN TOURIST PROJECTS, UH, THROUGH THAT RESOLUTION, THEY'VE REQUESTED THAT THE CITY ISSUES, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS, UM, TO FINANCE CERTAIN ROAD PROJECTS, AND THOSE CEO'S WITHIN BAKERY PAID THROUGH TOURIST REVENUES FROM TOURIST BOARD.

NUMBER TWO.

SO I ACTION ITEM NUMBER 22 IS CORRESPONDING RESOLUTION JUST FOR THE CITY TO ACCEPT, UM, THE REQUEST THAT HAS BEEN MADE BY TOURIST BOARD.

NUMBER TWO, UM, ACTION ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A WE CALL MOVING FORWARD RESOLUTION.

AND SO THAT IS A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CITY'S FINANCE TEAM, WHICH CONSISTS OF SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS AS THE CITY'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND OUR FIRM AS BOND COUNSEL TO PUT INTO ACTION, A PLAN OF FINANCE TO BRING THOSE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS TO THE MARKET SO THAT THEY CAN EVENTUALLY BE SOLD IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WILL COME BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UH, TO ADOPT A NOTICE OF INTENTION RESOLUTION AT WHICH TIME WE'D GIVE THE PUBLIC NOTICE OF THE CITY'S INTENTION TO ISSUE THOSE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS.

AND THAT ACTION IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

UH, ACTION ITEM 24 IS A SIMILAR RESOLUTION.

THAT'S A PLAN TO FINANCE RESOLUTION PERTAINING TO ISSUANCE OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

THESE ARE BONDS THAT ARE AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY'S VOTERS THAT HAVE NOVEMBER 20, 20 BOND ELECTION.

SO PORTION OF THOSE BONDS FROM THE BUTTER AUTHORITY WOULD BE ISSUED A AND AGAIN, UH, THIS RESOLUTION WOULD AUTHORIZE THE CITY'S FINANCE TEAM TO PUT A PLAN OF FINANCE TOGETHER, UM, FOR THAT GEO BOND SALE TO PROCEED.

AND AGAIN, THAT, UM, UH, THE FINANCE TEAM WOULD COME BACK BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE A BOND ORDINANCE ADOPTED TO ACTUALLY EFFECTUATE THE SALE OF THE BONDS ACTION ITEM 25 AS A RESOLUTION RELATED TO THE CITY'S INTENT TO REIMBURSE ITSELF FOR PRIOR EXPENDITURES RELATED TO THOSE 2020, UH, ARE THE 2020 VOTED UP AUTHORIZATION WHEN CITY COUNCIL CALLED THE NOVEMBER, 2020 BOND ELECTION COUNCIL DID ADOPT A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.

HOWEVER WE BELIEVE BECAUSE OF SCRIBNER'S ERROR.

THE CURRENT RESOLUTION THAT'S ON FILE AT CITY RECORDS DOES NOT MATCH THE ACTION ITEM THAT WAS PASSED AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

SO ACTION ITEM 25 IS SIMPLY JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING, UH, RELATED TO MAKING SURE THAT CITIES, I GUESS, THE CITY FILES OR THE CITY ACTION ITEMS RELATED TO THAT REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION MATCH, WHAT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL SO THAT WHEN THE GEO BONDS ARE ISSUED IN THE CITY AND TENDS TO REIMBURSE THEMSELVES FROM THOSE BOND FUNDS, THERE'S NO QUESTION RELATED TO ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES AND THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MS. SLOBBY.

THAT'S A LOT.

I'M VERY GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU CAUGHT THAT, UM, UM, PROVIDING HELP TO US IN THAT WAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS COUNCILOR FOR SCALE? THANK YOU.

I HAVE TWO FOR TWO DIFFERENT ONES.

UM, SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS GOING TO BE FOR OUR BOND COUNSEL, UM, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, IF THE CITY DOES NOT APPROVE THE CEO BONDS, HOW WOULD THOSE ROADS BE BUILT IF THE CITY DOES NOT ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS TO CONSTRUCT THE ROAD PROJECTS FOR TOURISTS TO THEN THE TOURIST BOARD ITSELF CAN ELECT TO ISSUE BONDS THAT ARE SECURED BY THOSE TOURIST REVENUES.

SO THE TOURIST BOARD, UH, CAN ISSUE TOURIST REVENUE, BONDS,

[01:40:01]

OR THE ROAD PROJECTS CAN BE FUNDED ON A PAY AS YOU GO BASIS WITH THE JURORS REVENUES.

OKAY.

SO IF WE DON'T DO BONDS AND THE TOURISTS CAN USE BONDS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO SAVE WEED.

IF THERE ARE NO BONDS TO PAY FOR THESE ROADS, HOW WERE THOSE ROADS GOING TO GET BUILT? IF THERE ARE NO BONDS, THEN THE ROADS CAN BE BUILT ON THE PAGE A GOOD BASIS, OR THE ROADS DON'T GET BUILT.

OKAY.

AND THE CITY WOULD PAY FOR THOSE ROADS.

UM, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE ROADS.

I ACTUALLY PAID QUESTION BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS THAT WE WOULD DEFAULT ON OUR RETAIL RATES AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED WITH THEM SO THAT WE HAVE VOTED ON PREVIOUSLY AND CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD, UH, UNDER THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT.

IF THE BONDS ARE NOT ISSUED, THEN THERE THERE'S A WALKAWAY PROVISION.

THE PARTIES COME TOGETHER TO SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO GET THE ROADS BUILT, BUT THEN, UM, IF THE BONDS ARE NOT ISSUED, THEN THE PARTIES CAN WALK AWAY FROM THE AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS GOING TO BE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25, UM, BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH YOU ABOUT THIS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS PROVIDED.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL BECAUSE THE, THE AGENDA ITEM ACTUALLY DID NOT HAVE THE BACKUP MATERIAL, UM, OR THE ASSIGN ORIGINAL ASSIGNED RESOLUTION.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF AT SOME POINT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE STICKING THOSE WITH, UM, WITH THE EXHIBITS, WITH THE RESOLUTIONS.

UM, BUT WHAT I FOUND TO BE A LITTLE DISCOURAGING DISCONCERTING WAS, UH, THE AMOUNTS AND THE DISCREPANCIES.

AND SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION TO ME, UH, TO EVERYBODY THAT MAYBE WATCHING, JUST SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S A 40,000 PLUS MILLION DIFFERENCE.

SORRY.

SO I THINK WHEN THE ORIGINAL REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION WAS DRAFTED, IT WAS DRAFTED WITH THE $6.5 MILLION FIGURE.

UM, AND THAT WAS ATTENDED TO JUST TO COVER SOME OF THE INITIAL DESIGN WORK FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE BONDS ARE GOING TO COVER.

WHEN THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL, IT WAS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ELECTION OR NANCE WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

AND BECAUSE COUNCIL HAD TAKEN ACTION ON THE ELECTION ORDINANCE AND THEY HAD THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF BOTH OF THOSE PROPOSITIONS, THE $47 MILLION, WHICH IS THE CUMULATIVE AMOUNT FROM THE TWO PROPOSITIONS WAS FRONT AND CENTER.

AND SO WHEN MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION, THE MOTION WAS MADE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AND AN AMOUNT SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE TWO BOND PROPOSITIONS THAT WERE JUST PLACED ON THE BALLOT BY COUNCIL.

SO THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION WAS MADE AND THE FULL $47 MILLION AMOUNT THAT WAS VOTED ON AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN CITY FILES STILL HAS THAT $6.5 MILLION FIGURE THAT WAS IN THAT DRAFT AMOUNT.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS WE'RE BRINGING A NEW RESOLUTION BEFORE COUNCIL TO CORRECT THAT ERROR.

SO CITY RECORDS NAIL REFLECT THE ACTUAL ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN BY COUNCIL.

WE'RE ALSO BEING CAREFUL SO THAT WE'RE NOT RESETTING OUR TIME PERIODS BECAUSE TO REIMBURSE FROM BOND PROCEEDS TAX EXEMPT BOND PROCEEDS, THE IRS CODE HAS SET IN CERTAIN, UH, TIME LIMITATIONS TO CERTAIN, UH, CERTAIN TIME LIMITATIONS FOR WHEN THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS CAN BE MADE.

OUR TAX LAWYERS DID NOT WANT US TO QUOTE UNQUOTE, RESET THE CLOCK.

THEY WANT THE CLOCK TO BE THE AUGUST, 2020 COUNCIL MEETING AT WHICH THAT REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION WAS ADOPTED.

OKAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, ONE MORE QUESTION, I GUESS, FOR THE CITY, BECAUSE SINCE I DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, DO WE KNOW IF IT WAS SIGNED BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A SPOT FOR TWO SIGNATURES, ONE FOR THE CITY OF KYLE AND THEN ONE FOR THE ATTEST.

AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SO THE, THE RESOLUTION WAS SIGNED.

I DID GET A COPY OF THE SIGNED DROUGHT RESOLUTION FROM STAFF THIS WEEK, WHILE WE WERE PREPARING THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.

OUR INTENT WAS NOT TO INCLUDE IT THAT PRIOR RESOLUTION BEHIND THE, THIS CORRECT RESOLUTION AS THE BACKUP, WE WANT TO INCLUDE THE CERTIFIED MINUTES FROM THAT AUGUST, 2020 MEETING.

SO THAT WE'RE DOCUMENTING THE ACTUAL OFFICIAL ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN BY COUNCIL AND REFLECTING WHAT WAS PASSED AND ADOPTED.

NO, I, I COMPLETELY APPRECIATE THAT TOO.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL KIND OF UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WENT THROUGH SEVERAL SETS OF EYES.

THIS WASN'T JUST THE FAULT OF ONE.

THIS IS A FAULT OF MANY.

AND SO IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS.

UM, AND WITHOUT SEEING THE ORIGINAL, I WASN'T SURE

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WHO ALL HAD A HAND IN THIS, SO I DON'T WANT IT TO SEEM LIKE THIS IS, UH, BASED ON ANY ONE MISHAP, BUT OFFICE SEVERAL, IF IT, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS SIGNED AND THEN IT WAS ABOUT FILED.

SO WITH THAT I'M OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MAY I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A CARCINOGEN ITEMS 20, I MEAN, AGENDA ITEMS 22 THROUGH 25, PLEASE MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO.

SECOND BY CUSTOMER ELLISON THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 22 THROUGH 25.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED MOTION.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES 7, 6 2, 1 MOTION CARRIES 61.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA

[26.  Consider and possible action on a proposal from Verdunity, Inc. for Professional Services for the Comprehensive Plan Update and to authorize the City Manager to execute a contract in an amount not to exceed $300,000.00. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]

ITEM NUMBER 26, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSAL FROM VIRGINITY INCORPORATED FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT AND AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED $300,000.

AMBER LEWIS, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AMBER LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

FOR THE RECORD IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL FROM VIRGINITY AND, UH, IT IS IN THE AMOUNTS OF $3,300,000 TO, UH, PERFORM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD PROPOSAL.

UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE YOUR BUST, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, ENGAGEMENT AND AWARENESS PROCESS.

IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A LAND USE FISCAL ANALYSIS THAT WILL BE HELPFUL IN GUIDING YOUR DECISIONS.

AND, UM, SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE PROPOSAL.

I DO HAVE FOR DUCATI CALLED IN.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF KEVIN SHEPHERD AND AJA FARBER.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE COUNCIL MEMBER FLOURISH, CAMP TWO QUESTIONS.

AND, UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UM, ITEM, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE ONE THAT IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE THE CODE READ, RIGHT.

AND THEN, UM, ARE WE GOING TO NEED A BUDGET AMENDMENT? BECAUSE I THINK WE DID NOT BUDGET 300,000 FOR IT.

SO NUMBER ONE, WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE CODE RAID RIGHT AT THIS TIME.

SO ONCE WE GET THE CONFERENCE OF PLANS DONE, WE CAN GO BACK AND WE CAN DECIDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO PROCEED WITH.

UM, THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE CONTRACT.

UH, THE SECOND QUESTION, UM, WITH REGARD TO BUDGET, THIS WILL COVER PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT.

UM, IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE $155,000 BUDGETED FOR IT.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER WILL BE PAID FOR IN NES NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WE HAVE PROPOSED ENOUGH TO COVER THE REMAINDER OF THE COST.

UM, IS THERE ANY WAY TO TELL IF THERE COULD BE LIKE A, I DON'T WANT TO SAY A DISCOUNT, BUT LIKE IF IT COULD BE CHEAPER, IF WE DO THE CODE WRITE REWRITE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOGETHER, IT WAS MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO BOTH.

SO THAT'S WHY WE SHAVED OFF THE, I KNOW THE CODE NOT MUCH EXTRA.

THAT WOULD BE, IT WAS QUITE A BIT, QUITE A BIT MORE.

OKAY.

NOW I GET, I, BUT LOOK, I'M ALL ABOUT SAVING MONEY, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT.

AND I KNOW OUR CO'S ARE IN DIRE NEED OF UPGRADING.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN JUST GET THAT AMOUNT AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE IF WE WANT TO TRY TO BUDGET FOR THAT? SURE.

I CAN SHARE THAT AMOUNT WITH YOU.

UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO APPROACH THE CODE REWRITE, WHICH COULD INCLUDE POSSIBLY HIRING ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER, A PLANNER WHO COULD TAKE ON THAT KIND OF CODE REWRITE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMP PLAN IS GOING TO IDENTIFY ALL OF THAT.

I KNOW THAT WILL HAS ALSO MADE HIS OWN LIST.

AND SO THEY COULD GO THROUGH AND MAKE THOSE CHANGES AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26, PLEASE MOTION BY CUSTOMER FORCE, CAL SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON THAT WE APPROVE.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER ELSE? OH, THANK YOU.

MA'AM UH, YES, REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS COUNTS.

REMEMBER FLORES KALE, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO ONCE I HAD.

SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING ON THAT.

I GET YOUR POINT.

YOU'RE MAKING ABOUT DOING THE BUNDLE, IF YOU WILL, UH, THAT IF WE DO THE BUNDLE, MAYBE IT'S JUST ARBITRARY NUMBERS HERE, $50,000 MORE.

I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THAT, UH, TO DO IT TOGETHER, WHEREAS OPPOSE IT MIGHT BE $75,000 SEPARATELY TO DO IT.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE LINE OF THINKING YOU WERE KIND OF GOING WITH, SO I APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING THOSE NUMBERS TO THE COUNCIL.

UM, I DO HAVE, UM, AND SO JUST CLARIFYING ON THAT BUDGET COMMENT, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY.

SO WE DID ALLOCATE $150,000 IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, UH, THAT CAME INTO EFFECT FISCAL YEAR OF OCTOBER 1ST, LAST YEAR.

UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT ONE 50 THAT WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET NOW IS GOING TO ESSENTIALLY DO PHASE ONE AND TWO OF IT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE 50 WILL NEED TO BE

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TACKLED IN FISCAL YEAR BUDGET 20 22, 23.

IS THAT MY CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? IT'S 1 55 THIS YEAR, AND THEN IT WOULD BE 1 45 NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE 1 55 WE'LL ESSENTIALLY DO PHASES ONE AND TWO.

AND THEN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHAT THE 1 45 WOULD, UH, TAKE ON PHASE THREE, FOUR AND FIVE.

CERTAINLY.

UH, SO TWO OTHER COMMENTS, AND THEN I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAVE PRODUCED CITY ON THE LINE.

OKAY.

SO GET QUEUED UP OR DIRTY.

CAUSE I'M GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION.

UH, SO ONE THING, I JUST WANT TO POINT A CLARIFICATION HERE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE DID AN RFQ, WHICH IS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

SO WE GOT A NUMBER OF RESPONDENTS BACK FROM THAT THEY COULD SAY, YEAH, WE CAN DO ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU WANT US TO DO, AND WE'RE QUALIFIED TO DO IT.

AND HERE'S X NUMBER OR HOWEVER MANY REASONS WHY, WHEN WE DO IT LIKE THAT THOUGH, UH, YOU, YOU CAN GET ANY NUMBER OF REQUESTS FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR THEM TO DO THAT.

SO YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY ASKING WITH RFQ AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG STAFF, UH, CAN YOU DO ALL THIS SCOPE OF WORK? YES WE CAN.

AND THEN WE GO INTO, WE WENT INTO THOSE NEGOTIATIONS AND THEN WE SAW HOW MUCH IT WAS, AND IT WAS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO AN RFQ? IF WE HAD DONE AN RFP AND WE SAID, OKAY, THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAD UP UPFRONT.

CAN YOU DO THIS IN THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY? WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE GOT AS MANY RESPONDENTS BACK FOR ONE.

UH, BUT THAT ALSO IT'S A DIFFERENT NAVIGATING WAY OF GETTING TO THE PROCESS.

SO I KNOW THERE WAS SOME FRUSTRATION LAST COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT THE PROCESS TAKING A WHILE.

I JUST WANT TO JUST MAKE THE COUNCIL WHERE IT'S A LOT OF THE TIMES IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE GIVE TO STAFF THAT CAN REALLY EITHER MAKE THINGS HAPPEN QUICKER OR KIND OF TAKE THE LONG WAY AROUND.

IT BOTH HAVE THEIR BENEFITS OF DOING THEM VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS.

BUT, SO I JUST WANTED TO, ONCE AGAIN, STAFF, IF I'M INCORRECT IN EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE, I'M NOT TOO PROUD TO LEARN AS WELL.

UH, SO THAT'S JUST MY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'RE DOING THANK YOU FOR BEING PRESENT.

THANK YOU FOR TURNING ON YOUR CAMERAS.

WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE OUR GUESTS TURN ON THEIR CAMERAS.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, MY QUICK QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF THE COUNCIL IN GENERAL, UH, GOING INTO A PROCESS LIKE THIS, UH, AND CERTAINLY, UH, PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO A PLAN, WHICH, UH, I BUY INTO THIS TYPE OF DOCUMENT BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DO THINK THE MORE ENGAGED WE ARE AS A COUNCIL AND A STAFF, THE MORE LIKELY THAT THIS COUNCIL IN PARTICULAR WILL ABIDE BY AND TRY TO CARRY OUT THE THINGS THAT THEY PUT SO MUCH HARD WORK INTO CREATING.

UH, SO, UH, I KNOW CITIZEN COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IS IMPORTANT AND ENGAGEMENT IS IMPORTANT.

COULD YOU ALL RUN THROUGH, UH, AND CERTAINLY FEEL FREE TO BE ROBUST ABOUT IT, UH, YOUR, UH, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF THIS, UH, PARTICULAR PIECE? UH, YEAH.

THANK, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

UM, AND JUST REAL QUICK, UH, AGAIN, MY NAME'S KEVIN SHEPHERD WITH DANITY, UM, I'LL BE THE PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE ON THE PROJECT AND, UM, I'VE GOT WITH ME AS WELL AT J WILL BE OUR, UH, OUR PROJECT MANAGER THAT THE TWO OF US ARE THE, THE TWO YOU'LL SEE THE MOST THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UM, I'M GOING TO KICK IT TO AGA HERE IN A SEC TO TALK ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT APPROACH, BUT JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK A BIT AND TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE, THE CODE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, WE DID, UM, AS YOU JUST POINTED OUT IN OUR SUBMITTAL, YOU KNOW, W WE RESPONDED TO EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THE RFQ, UH, ADDRESSED EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD DO AND HOW WE WOULD IDEALLY ADDRESS IT.

UM, AND THEN, UH, OVER THE LAST MONTH OR MONTH AND A HALF OR SO, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF TO, UH, TO REFINE THE SCOPE, TO GET WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT YOU HAD.

UM, AND REALLY, UH, I HAD SENT AMBER AN EMAIL WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE SCALED BACK.

THERE WERE A FEW COMPONENTS OF ENGAGEMENT THAT GOT SCALED BACK.

UM, THE CODE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE, THAT WE REMOVED, UM, PRIMARILY, UM, BECAUSE WE JUST, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN DO THOSE TWO TOGETHER, UH, IT TENDS TO WORK BETTER IF YOU CAN GET THROUGH THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND MOST OF THE PLAN FIRST.

SO WE KNOW KIND OF WHERE AND WHEN AND HOW THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO DEVELOP.

AND THEN YOU CAN GO BACK AND DO THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC AND, UM, IN EDIT YOUR CODE THERE.

SO YOU YOU'LL, YOU'LL PROBABLY GET A TIGHTER SCOPE AND, UM, AND BUDGET FOR THE CODE UPDATE AT THAT POINT.

THEN IF WE HAD TO JUST KIND OF GO IN WITH SOME GUESSES RIGHT, RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S PART OF WHY THAT WAS, WAS SCALED BACK, BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT WE, WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH IS, UH, STILL, UH, A PRETTY ROBUST SCOPE FOR, FOR A COMP PLAN.

WE, WE DID NOT COMPROMISE ON THE FISCAL ANALYSIS.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY MADE, VERY CLEAR THAT, THAT YOU ALL WANTED.

UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE IN AS A CENTRAL PART OF OUR, OUR APPROACH.

SO, UM, I GUESS, ADJ, YOU WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT AND JUST KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE,

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THE BIG ELEMENTS OF, OF ENGAGEMENT.

SURE.

AGA FATHER WITH VIRGINITY.

SO A LOT OF THE ENGAGEMENT ELEMENTS ARE DESIGNED TO ELICIT THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC.

UM, ONE OF THOSE IS COLLECTING INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC.

ONE IS EDUCATING THE PUBLIC BY PUTTING INFORMATION OUT TO THEM AND BRINGING THEM ALONG THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND THEN THE THIRD ELEMENT IS THAT TWO WAY DIALOGUE, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GIVE INPUT, BUT THEN ALSO HAVE SOME CONSENSUS AND COLLABORATION AND THEN SEE HOW THAT MAKES IT INTO THE FINAL PRODUCT.

SO THE WAYS THAT ARE STILL REMAINING IN THE PROJECT INCLUDE A NUMBER OF SURVEYS, PERSON MEETINGS, A PROJECT WEBSITES, AND SOME STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS.

I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT WITH MANY OF OUR CLIENTS, UM, TYPICALLY THROUGH THEIR PUBLIC INFORMATION STAFF AND OR THEIR PLANNING STAFF, UM, THEY MAY OFTEN CHOOSE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT TOOLS AT COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT ARE ALREADY PLANNED, UM, OR TO PUSH OUT INFORMATION THROUGH SOME OTHER CHANNELS THAT THE CITY HAS, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH A CITY NEWSLETTER, UTILITY BILLS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND SO WE CAN OF COURSE TAKE IN ANY INFORMATION THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO COLLECT ON THEIR OWN.

IN ADDITION TO THOSE METHODS THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

AND I THINK, UM, JUST TO, TO BUILD ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE PROJECT WEBSITE, UM, WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT AS A, AS A STANDALONE WEBSITE.

SO IT'LL, IT'LL HAVE ITS OWN URL, BUT WE'LL ALSO LINK IT UP DIRECTLY WITH THE CITY'S WEBSITE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WITH YOUR FORMER COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR.

AND THEN ON THAT WEBSITE, THERE'LL BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TOOLS TO GET DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENGAGEMENT.

SO THERE IS GOING TO OBVIOUSLY BE THE, UM, KIND OF THE, THE FRONT, THE FRONT PART OF IT, WHERE YOU JUST KIND OF HAVE THE TIMELINE AND, AND INFORMATION, BUT THERE'S ALSO A MAPPING TOOL THAT WILL WORK INTO IT.

UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT KIND OF RANKING SYSTEMS. UH, THERE'S ALSO AN ELEMENT IN THERE TO DO A VIRTUAL, UH, LIKE A VIRTUAL PUBLIC MEETING OR A VIRTUAL TOWN HALL KIND OF, UH, CAPABILITIES.

SO, UM, WE WANT TO TRY TO DO THE, THE ONLINE AS WELL AS WE CAN, BUT SOMETHING THAT, UH, I THINK AJA AND I BOTH, I KNOW AGI BOTH FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT IS THE, THE IN-PERSON ENGAGEMENT AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT TWO WAY DIALOGUE, UM, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM ON, ON PEOPLE'S TURF, YOU KNOW, ON THEIR OWN TURF.

UM, SO IF THAT'S, WHEN WE ARE IN TOWN, PART OF OUR TIME COULD BE NEIGHBORHOOD WALK SHOPS, YOU KNOW, DOING SOME WORKSHOPS THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS.

PART OF THAT COULD BE JUST DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM SETTING UP IN DIFFERENT LOCAL BUSINESSES AND, YOU KNOW, IN POLLING OR TALKING TO PEOPLE AS THEY COME IN OR, OR OUT OF THE BUSINESS, UH, WE'VE GOT IT SET UP TO WHERE THERE'S, I WANT TO SAY FOR FOUR OR FIVE TRIPS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'LL BE MAKING, UM, TWO OR THREE DAYS, UH, FOR, FOR THOSE TRIPS.

AND ONE OF THE VERY FIRST THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO, UH, AS PART OF THE SCOPE AND THE KICKOFF IS TO, UH, TO SIT DOWN WITH, WITH STAFF, SIT DOWN WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AND LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE NEXT YEAR, THE WHOLE NEXT 12 TO 12 TO 15 MONTHS OF ALL OF THE COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, AND PUT TOGETHER THAT, UM, VER YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE DETAILED ENGAGEMENT PLAN OF, OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO.

AND WHEN, UM, AND TRY TO GET IN FRONT OF THE, ESPECIALLY KIND OF THE, THE SOCIAL MEDIA ELEMENT, WHERE WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN FOR PROVIDING YOU ALL WITH SOME INFORMATION THAT, THAT YOU CAN THEN SHARE THROUGH YOUR SOCIAL CHANNELS.

CAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT, THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT THE, UH, THE FORMER COMMUNICATIONS PERSON IS, WAS PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT, OF JUST CONTROLLING THE KEY KIND OF CONTROLLING THE MESSAGING WITH THE, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING IT ALL THROUGH THE CHANNELS THAT EVERYBODY'S ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE ON THAT.

VERY THOROUGH, UH, THREE COMMENTS, ONE, I KNOW IT MAY SEEM, IT SEEMS SIMPLE TO ASK THIS IN THIS DAY AND AGE, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN.

THE WEBSITE WILL BE MOBILE FRIENDLY AND RESPONSIVE.

FANTASTIC.

UH, SECONDLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED OUR CITYWIDE SURVEY THAT WE DO ANNUALLY HERE AND THE CITY OF KYLE, AND WE SET A TARGET GOAL, UH, TO OUR STAFF BY THE COUNCIL TO GET OVER A THOUSAND RESPONDENTS TO THAT.

AND WE EXCEEDED THAT AND I WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, SCIENTIFIC POLLS, THAT IS THE MINIMUM NUMBER THAT IS TO TAKE ANY POLL SERIOUSLY, JUST BASICALLY SPEAKING.

UH, SO DEFINITELY LOOKING IN MY THOUGHTS AND ESTIMATIONS AT LEAST, OR RESPONDENT OF THAT.

AND THEN, UH, FINALLY I WILL SAY, AND THIS IS MORE DIRECTED TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE.

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UH, A BIG PART OF WE GOT ELECTED.

SO THAT MEANS WE KNOW PEOPLE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW US WHO ARE AWARE OF US.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT PURDUE CITY AND STAFF THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS TO LEAN ON US SO WE CAN PROMOTE THESE SURVEYS AND RESPONSES IN ORDER TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT WE'RE DOING THIS.

UH, WE HAVE A PLATFORM TO USE COUNCIL, AND I THINK IN ORDER TO GET THE RESPONSES AND ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK THAT WE WANT TO WANT TO GET ON A COMPETENCY, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LIKE WE'RE UNDERTAKING IN, WHICH WILL BE THE LARGEST ONE WE'VE DONE IN THE CITY'S HISTORY, NOT ONLY IN DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT AS FAR AS THE PROJECT.

UM, SO, UH, JUST REALLY LEANING ON THE COUNCIL TO, UH, USE OUR CHANNELS, TO HELP PROMOTE THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS, UH, AS, AS WELL.

CERTAINLY WE LOVE THE IN-PERSON PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IF WE CAN EVEN GET ENGAGEMENT THROUGH OTHER WAYS AND SURVEYS AND DIFFERENT COLLECTION OF INFORMATION, I THINK IS GREAT AS WELL.

CAUSE WE ALL KNOW EVERYBODY'S BUSY, CAN'T ALWAYS COME IN PERSON, BUT IF WE CAN GET AS MANY RESPONSES HERE FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE GREAT, THAT'S THE END OF MY COMMENTS ARE YOU'RE THE FLOOR MAYOR PRO TEM.

YEAH.

MAYOR.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR VETTING THIS COMPANY THAT THEY SEEM LIKE A REALLY GREAT COMPANY.

UM, BUT AT THIS TIME I'D LOVE TO, UM, ASK THAT WE, UH, POSTPONE THIS ITEM BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING A CRUCIAL PIECE.

I CAN'T SEE US MOVING FORWARD AS A CITY ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHERE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLAN DIRECTOR IN PLACE.

THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS HAVING TO HAVE PLANNING DIRECTOR AND HIS INPUT.

SO I'D ASK THE COUNCIL TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL WE, UH, HIRE A BLIND DIRECTOR, PLEASE.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MOTION YET ON THE ITEM.

SO JUST, JUST TO REQUEST, IS THERE A OTHER DISCUSSION? THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD CAUSE FOR WAS, UH, BASICALLY AGAIN, MY, THE TIMELINE AGAIN, CAUSE AGAIN, COUNSEL, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE DICE FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW.

UM, SO THIS PROPOSAL THAT I'M SEEING HERE IS VALID FOR 45 DAYS, CORRECT.

IF APPROVED AND THEN IT STATES HERE, THE WORK WILL THEN BEGIN, UH, WITHIN 12 TO 14 MONTHS.

SO IS THAT IN BETWEEN THAT TIME FOR THAT 45 DAYS IS, IS, IS IN THERE THAT, THAT TIMEFRAME, THIS PROPOSAL, THE QUOTE IS GOOD FOR 45 DAYS.

SO WE HAVE 45 DAYS TO ACCEPT THAT.

UM, AND THEN ONCE WE ACCEPT THAT IT WILL TAKE 12 TO 14 MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE PLAN.

IS THAT RIGHT? KEVIN THAT'S YES.

HE'S NODDING.

YEAH.

I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR CONCERN MAYOR PRO TEM ON THAT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME.

UH, AND SO, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE VETTING PROCESS OF FINDING OUT THE COMPANY AND GETTING SOMETHING IN PLACE.

AND I'M VERY EXCITED, BUT GET THIS BALL ROLLING.

CAUSE THIS IS WHAT I VISITED SOME OF THESE CITIES AND THEY'VE TOLD ME THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, HAS REALLY BENEFITED THEIR GROWTH.

IT REALLY INSPIRES ME TO SAY, WE'VE GOT TO GET SOMETHING GOING AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M HOME FOR THAT, IF NOBODY ELSE IS GOING ON THAT CUSTOMER FORCE KILL.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO AS EXCITED AS I AM FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, AND TO RESPOND TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY, AS MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW MANY CITIES DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHOUT A PLANNING DIRECTOR? I DON'T THINK IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND I'M GLAD HE BRINGS IT UP BECAUSE I WAS EXCITED.

I JUST SAW IT AND I WAS EXCITED.

I WAS LIKE, I WANT TO GET IT DONE 12 TO 14 MONTHS.

I MIGHT STILL BE ON DICE.

UM, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF PLANNING DIRECTOR INVOLVED IN THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS, SO I WOULD SAY THAT THERE ARE CITIES WHO DO THIS WITHOUT A PLANNING DIRECTOR, OBVIOUSLY VERY SMALL CITIES DON'T HAVE PLANNING DIRECTORS.

THEY HAVE CITY ADMINISTRATORS WHO DO, YOU KNOW, DO THAT WORK.

I WOULD SAY YOU'RE IN VERY GOOD HANDS.

YOU HAVE A VERY COMPETENT SENIOR PLANNER.

YOU HAVE A VERY COMPETENT PLANNER ON STAFF AND YOU HAVE ME AND I WILL SHEPHERD THE PROJECT THROUGH.

UM, I THINK MOSTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOES IS COMMUNITY INPUT.

RIGHT? SO WHILE WE, WE WANT, WE WANT THE GUIDANCE FROM MAYBE A PLANNING DIRECTOR OR PROFESSIONAL PLANNER.

I, I THINK WE HAVE THAT, BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THE PLAN TO REFLECT HIS OR HER WANTS A NEEDS ONLY, RIGHT.

WE WANT THIS TO BE A COMMUNITY PLAN.

AND WE'LL ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I FEEL LIKE WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO SELECTING

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AT LEAST AN INTERIM OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF INTERVIEWS GOING ON.

UM, SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO MAKING THAT SELECTION.

UM, BUT I W YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE, IF WE COULD APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, THEN I THINK BY THE TIME WE GET TO EXECUTING THE CONTRACT AND THEN STARTING THE PROCESS, WE PROBABLY WILL HAVE THAT POSITION FILLED OR SOME SORT OF PLAN FOR THAT POSITION.

UM, THAT FOR ME, IT'S A CONCERN.

IT'S A HUGE CONCERN.

AND AS MUCH AS I FEEL LIKE WE NEED THE RESIDENTS FEEDBACK, I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE NEED THE FEEDBACK OF OUR PROFESSIONAL.

AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE'LL CAN DO THIS JOB, BUT THAT HE'S STILL NOT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, YOU KNOW, AND HE'LL HAVE HIS INPUT AS WELL, THE OTHER PLANNERS, BUT, UM, A HUGE PART OF IT IS WHY, WHY IS IT ALMOST A YEAR? AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE A PLANNING DIRECTOR.

NO, NO, NO, I DIDN'T.

I WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO THAT.

PLAYS EYES SAW THE INTERACTION THAT MAKES ME HIGHLY UNCOMFORTABLE.

WELL, IT'S A, IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY, IT'S A VERY POINTED QUESTION TO A STAFF MEMBER RELATED TO HIRING PRACTICES.

IT'S OUT, IT'S INAPPROPRIATE.

SO THAT'S THE REASON NO.

WHERE INAPPROPRIATE, I THINK AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN OUR STAFF TO ENSURE THAT OUR CITY IS GOING TO BE PROPERLY STAFFED AND WE CAN GROW IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.

IT'S, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, IT'S NOT LIKE I'M BEING NOSY, RIGHT? THIS IS LITERALLY MY JOB.

AND SO I DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT WHEN I LOOK OVER THEIR FACES AND SIGNS BEING GIVEN AS IF OTHER PEOPLE CANNOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

OTHER PEOPLE THAT SET UP HERE THAT ARE HELPING RUN THE CITY PERSONNEL MATTERS.

I AM TALKING, I AM SPEAKING.

I'M SORRY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH AMBER.

UM, AND I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK.

I, I HATE TO PUT YOU IN THIS UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THAT WAY IF THERE WAS JUST SOME KIND OF COMMUNICATION.

SO I, I GUESS MY EXPRESSION IS BECAUSE IT IS A PERSONNEL MATTER AND IT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS AT THIS POINT.

UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TALK OFFLINE WITH YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, NOT IN A PUBLIC MEETING WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS.

UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UM, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT YOU ARE IN VERY COMPETENT HANDS.

WE HAVE NOT SKIPPED A BEAT WITHOUT A PLANNING DIRECTOR.

WE'RE DOING MORE PLANNING, MORE PERMITTING, BETTER DEVELOPMENT THAT, THAT HAS EVER COME TO KYLE, RIGHT.

AND Y'ALL ARE ALSO LEADING US THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS AND EXCELLENT HANDS, AND THERE'S NO CAUSE FOR CONCERN.

AND THERE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE, WE HAVE THESE, THIS GREAT GROUP OF CONSULTANTS ON ONBOARD.

WE HAVE AN AWESOME TEAM AND I FEEL LIKE WE COULD PROCEED CASSEROLES CAUSE WE'RE PARSLEY.

THANK YOU.

UM, MY, MY OPINION ON THIS IS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN OF NOT HAVING A PLANNING DIRECTOR, BUT STILL EVEN IF WE WERE TO HIRE SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW, THERE WILL BE SOME TRAINING AND ADJUSTMENT TIME NEEDED.

SO THIS IS GONNA BE JUST LIKE PUSHING, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MONTHS.

SO THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 26.

YOU MADE A REQUEST.

YOU DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION.

THE MOTION IS MADE BY CUSTOMER AND PARTIALLY SECONDED BY CUSTOMER ELLISON TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? MY PROTEINS? YEAH.

UM, I'M SORRY.

OUR, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS STRETCHED THIN RIGHT NOW, AND I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE PUTTING THIS ON THEM AS WELL.

WE'RE SHORT MEMBERS ALREADY.

WE'RE SHORT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.

I MEAN, YOU WERE LOOKING AT MAYBE EVEN ADDING STAFF MEMBERS BECAUSE OF ALL THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO DO RIGHT NOW.

AND WHEN I TALKED TO, UH, UH, PEOPLE, RESIDENTS AND STAFF MEMBERS AS WELL, I KNOW WHAT THE STRESS IS RIGHT NOW.

AND I JUST AIN'T COMFORTABLE ADDING MORE STRESS TO THEM.

I LOOK, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IMPORTANT, BUT THIS IS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FULL STAFF THAT CAN GIVE THE AMPLE TIME TO IT.

IF WE DO THIS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO SHORTCHANGE THE RESIDENTS.

AND THIS PLAN IS NOT GOING TO BE THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IT'S GOING TO BE.

IT'S GOING TO BE WHEN STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE ALREADY SPRITZED, THEN CAN COME OUT AND WORK ON THIS.

AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO GIVE US THE PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO POSTPONE THIS AND, AND WAIT TILL WE HAVE THAT PLANNING DIRECTOR FILM, A ROW FILLED SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THE RESIDENTS THE MOST PERFECT, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE CAN WITH ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT IT, IT NEEDS.

THAT'S WHERE ALISON, THANK YOU.

SEE ON KNOW ME MR. HISTORY HERE.

SO TWO YEARS AGO, OVER TWO YEARS AGO, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS TO CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD, A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS CAUSE.

YOU KNOW, AND WE REJECTED THE GROUP THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD THROUGH THE

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TASK FORCE, WHICH I WAS ON TO BRING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.

THIS WAS IN 2020, AND I LED THE REASON FOR THAT.

OBJECTION, ME AND ANOTHER COLLEAGUE.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS.

COUNCIL LAST, UH, BEGINNING OF 2021.

I COMPELLED THE COUNCIL TO AMEND THE BUDGET AND CREATE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 2021 AT THE BEGINNING OF IT, NO SUPPORT FOR THAT.

IT DIDN'T UNHAPPEN.

AND SO NOW WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF 2022 AND NOW YET ANOTHER REASON TO NOT GO FORWARD WITH IT.

THERE WERE UMPTEEN REASONS IN 2020, THERE WAS, I CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE WHAT THE REASONS WERE IN 2021, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I COULD ARTICULATE WHAT I UNDERSTOOD.

NOW WE'RE IN 2022 AND NOW IT'S THE PLANNING DIRECTOR.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT THIS, BUT I PLAN TO, I ATTEND THE HECK OUT OF THESE PLANNING ASSOCIATION CONFERENCES, BOTH IN THIS STATE AND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.

AND THERE ARE CITIES ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND ALL ACROSS THE STATE THAT DO NOT HAVE PLANNING DIRECTORS AND DO NOT HAVE PLANNING STAFF COMPLETELY FILLED OUT THAT'S ANY DEPARTMENT USA IN ANY USA CITY.

SO WE GOING TO SIT IDLY BY AND WAIT UNTIL EVERY LITTLE POSITION IS FIELD IN ORDER TO TAKE ACTION.

THE SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS YOU'RE SELLING OURSELVES SHORT, AS WELL AS WHAT I JUST COMPELLED AND ASKED US TO DO.

IF THE SEVEN OF US PUT OUR EFFORT INTO MAKING THIS THE PERFECT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND WE PUT OUR EFFORT INTO THIS AND WE ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS WHERE WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.

AND WE ARE THE STEP SUPPORT.

THEN IT, REGARDLESS OF A DIRECTOR WHO AT THE END OF THE DAY IS NOT A DECISION MAKER.

THE SEVEN OF US ARE.

SO I COMPELLED THE COUNCIL TO STOP HAVING REASONS FOR NOT GOING FORWARD WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE CAN DO THIS.

WE CAN MAKE IT GREAT.

I BELIEVE IN THE STAFF, I BELIEVE IN US, IN OUR ABILITY TO DO IT, LET'S DO IT.

THE MOTION'S ON THE TABLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE BOAT SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S NON-DEBATABLE MOTION.

UH, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.

VOTE AN UP A VOTE.

YES.

THAT IS A VOTE TO CEASE DEBATE.

A VOTE.

NO IS ABOUT TO CONTINUE DEBATE.

IF WE VOTE YES.

TO CEASE TO EIGHT, WE WILL IMMEDIATELY CALL THE QUESTION.

YES.

YES.

HI FLORES.

KALE.

YES.

BRADSHAW.

HI PARSLEY.

HI MITCHELL RIZZO.

ALISON.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

NOW WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE TO APPROVE ALISON MITCHELL.

RIGHT? PARSLEY RIZZO FLORES, KALE, NEG BRADSHAW.

AYE.

TOBY IT'S.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO TWO.

[27.  

(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 5.4 acres of land from Agriculture ‘A’ to ‘R-1-T’ (Residential Townhouse 1) and approximately 4.6 acres ‘RS’ (Retail Services) for property located at 951 Windy Hill Road in Hays County, Texas. (Everardo Rosales - Z-22-0098) ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager

 

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the request. 

 

  • Public Hearing
]

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.

FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 5.4 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURAL A TO R ONE T RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME AND APPROXIMATELY 4.6 ACRES.

OUR, UH, OUR S RETAIL SERVICES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 9 51.

THAT'S WHAT I'M READING.

WHAT DID I SAY? I SAID 21.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M READING A TO CLARIFY I'M READING ITEM 27.

UH, IT'S UH, OUR WARRANTY AND RS FOR 9 51 WINDY HILL ROAD DECIDE THEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, MS. LEWIS, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AMBER LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD I PINCH HITTING FOR WILL AT CONSENSUS NIGHT, SENIOR PLANNER.

UM, THIS I'LL BE BRIEF.

YOU HAVE A DETAILED, UH, STAFF MEMO AND ANALYSIS IN YOUR PACKET, BUT THIS IS TO REZONE 10 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES, UH, OF WHICH IS 4.6 ACRES.

AND THEN A TOWNHOME RESIDENTIAL OF WHICH IS 5.4 ACRES.

AND WHEN THEY WERE ANNEX, THEY WERE ZONED AGRICULTURE, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE CITY ANNEXES PROPERTY.

AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE USES OF BOTH OF THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS.

UM, SO THIS IS COMPLIANT WITH, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, UH, WINDY HILL WILL BE A FOUR-LANE ARTERIAL.

AND SO THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE RIGHT AWAY AND ALSO PAY ADJACENT LANE MILE FEE TO HELP.

AND THEN FINALLY WATER SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED BY MONARCH AND WASTEWATER WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF KYLE AND THEN POWER BY PEC.

AND THEN AT THE JUNE 14TH PNC MEETING, UH, THE COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ZONING AND STAFF SUPPORTS THIS REQUEST AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT, THIS ADAM HAS

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A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

SEEING NONE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON THE DECIDE OF A CUSTOMER TO ABUSE? YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, LOOKING AT THE REQUEST LETTER, IT SAYS HERE THAT THE ZONING'S PROPOSED 4.6 ALONG WINDY HILL, WHERE, UH, IT MIGHT INCLUDE A PROPOSED GROCERY STORE.

CORRECT.

DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF GROCERY STORE OR RETAIL MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THAT AREA? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? THIS SMEAR.

SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS SUBDIVISION AS A WHOLE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M NOT SEEING HERE AS A PARK, AM I MISSING THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO PROPOSED, UH, PROPERTIES, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE METALS OF KYLE, I DON'T SEE A PARK IN THAT AREA WHATSOEVER.

UM, AND OUR ORDINANCE SAYS THERE'S GOTTA BE A WALKING PARK WITHIN FOUR MINUTES OF ANY, UH, HOME.

UM, IS THERE A PROPOSED AREA FOR A PARK HERE? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WILL COME LATER.

THIS IS TONIGHT IS JUST A REQUEST TO REZONE.

SO THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WHATEVER STANDARDS AS THEY YES.

AS THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES.

YES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MOTIONS? THEY ARE ELECTRICAL.

I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 27.

OKAY.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN NEIL, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR PARSLEY.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES 61.

[28.  

(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 32.34 acres of land from Agriculture ‘A’ to Retail Service District ‘RS’ for property located at the north corner of E RR 150 & SH-21 in Hays County, Texas. (FM RD 812, LLC - Z-22-0100) ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager

 

Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the request. 

 

  • Public Hearing
]

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28.

FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53.

ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 32.3, FOUR ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE NORTH CORNER OF EAST, UH, R UH, RANCH ROAD ONE 50 AND SOUTH HIGHWAY 21 IN HAYES COUNTY.

UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.

MS. LEWIS, GOOD EVENING, AMOR LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.

UH, THIS REQUEST IS RE ZONE, UH, 32.34 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES.

HERE'S WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

UM, ON THE NORTH CORNER OF ONE 50 IN HIGHWAY 21, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AG AND THIS IS RE THIS IS COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THERE WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT MADE IN 2021 AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

THEN, UM, TXDOT HAS ONE 50 AND HIGHWAY 21 WATER WOULD BE COUNTY LINE.

SUD WASTEWATER IS NONE.

THEY'RE GOING TO DO SEPTIC AND THEN ELECTRICITY PEC.

AND THEN WE GIVE A TIMELINE FOR PERMITS AND THEN P AND Z APPROVED THIS ON JUNE 14TH AND STAFF SUPPORTS THE APPROVAL AS WELL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, SEEING NONE.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS COMES FROM FOUR SCALE? THANK YOU.

UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE JUST DOING THE OUTLINED GREEN, UM, WHERE IT SAYS, I GUESS IT'S THE FIRST PAGE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A COUPLE, LIKE AN ORANGE OUTLINE TO THE LEFT.

A COUPLE OF ORANGE OUTLINES TO THE RIGHT.

THOSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE JUST REZONING THE BLUE OUTLINE.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

UM, AND IS, IS KIND OF SAD AS I AM THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A GAS STATION HERE.

I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND WITH THAT SATELLITE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28, PLEASE.

OKAY.

MOTION BY A CUSTOMER FOR SCALE.

SECOND OF MY CUSTOMER TOBY IS THAT WE PROVED INTO I'M 28.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION OR PROTEST? YEAH, I'M A REAL QUICK.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ZONING FOR THE RETAIL SERVICES? UH, NO.

UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALL SEPTIC AND WHO T WHO CRUDES THE CHARGE OF A MP? THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BUSINESS, CORRECT? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON THE CITY, CORRECT? I'M SORRY.

THE SEPTIC TANKS IT'S GOING TO BE THE BUSINESSES, RIGHT? CORRECT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

JUST MAKING SURE THE CITY WASN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION CUS RAILS? YES.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, SO I KNOW, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, WE REVIEWED THIS AREA FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT REG PNC RECOMMENDED.

UM, I WON'T TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS, BUT ONE OF, ONE OF THEM THAT WE DID DISCUSS WAS A NODE IN THIS AREA, CORRECT?

[02:20:03]

YES.

UM, SO I GUESS THIS GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, LARGE REGION FOR DOING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CODE AMENDMENTS IS BECAUSE I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT A GAS STATION, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE APPROVED ZONING, WE'RE PROVING ALL OF THE USES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY IN THAT ZONE ZONING CATEGORY.

AND THAT'S ONE, ANOTHER REASON WHY WE NEED THESE, THESE CODE UPDATES AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO WE CAN BE VERY SATISFIED.

MAYBE THERE ARE NEW ZONING CATEGORIES THAT ARE CREATED IN DIFFERENT THINGS, MORE FOR MORE SPECIFIC AND NUANCED USES, BUT THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE NOW WE JUST HAVE A BROAD RS ZONING.

THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT USES IN THERE.

CERTAINLY ONES THAT WE'D LOVE TO SEE I A GROCERY STORE, ESPECIALLY FOR THAT AREA IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT AS WELL UNDERNEATH RS, THERE ARE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CONVENIENCE STORES OR GAS STATIONS.

SO JUST KIND OF FOLLOWING UP, I KNOW ON A PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, BUT THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF DOING THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, IMPORTANT OF DOING THESE CODE AMENDMENTS IN ORDER TO GET THE, THE NUANCE IN THE CODE THAT WE WANT TO SEE SO THAT WHEN WE ARE REZONING, WE'RE GETTING MORE SPECIFIC TO THE TYPE OF USES WE WANT TO SEE RATHER THAN JUST A BROAD SWATH THAT THESE FOLKS CAN COME IN AND APPLY FOR.

SO I KNOW THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S MY COMMENT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MOTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION MADE BY MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, RIZZO SECONDED BY COUNSELOR TO BE S THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 28.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? I THINK I ALREADY MADE A MOTION.

DID I? NOT, NOT THIS 1 28.

OKAY.

NO, ACTUALLY I BELIEVE SO.

YEAH.

I THINK I MADE A MOTION IN THE TOPIA SECOND.

YES.

I'M SORRY.

I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

SORRY.

I, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE THE THINGS THAT THROW ME OFF WHEN I DO IT.

CAUSE THERE'S BEFORE THE HEARING AND THEN DISCUSSION THAT EMOTION THEN DISCUSSION.

I LOSE TRACK.

I DO APOLOGIZE.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

UH, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS ITEM BEING FINALLY PASSED? SEEING NONE IT IS PASSED.

ALL RIGHT,

[29.  Consideration and possible action to approve PR-4 "Constant Technologies" addition at Public Safety Center in the amount of $1,109,678.03. ~ David Harding, AG|CM]

NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE PR FOR A CONSTANT TECHNOLOGIES EDITION OF AT PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION, $109,000 IN CHANGE.

MR. DAVID HARDY MARION COUNCIL WAS THE PARTY AGCS PROJECT MANAGER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT, UH, MEASURE RED.

WE HAVE 1.1 ROUGHLY JUST OVER 1.4, 1 MILLION FOR THE CONSTANT TECHNOLOGIES.

ADD WHAT THIS IS, IS TECHNOLOGY FOR OUR, UM, EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

IT IS TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS ACTUALLY BUDGETED EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT, UH, UNDERNEATH THE BOND, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE GMP, UH, TO ALLOW FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, NAMELY CAMERA SYSTEMS, VIDEO SURVEILLANCE, UM, SPECIALTY FURNITURE AND, AND THE LIKE, UM, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CENTER.

SO WE'RE FINALLY WRAPPING UP ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF THIS.

UM, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN A LOT OF COORDINATION SURROUNDING THIS FROM QUOTES TO BUILD OUT AND ALL OF THESE THINGS, WE FINALLY WERE ABLE TO COORDINATE ALL THROUGH DESIGN, AND THIS IS THE FINAL NUMBER OF THIS.

SO THIS IS THE NUMBER YOU'RE LOOKING AT, INCLUDES EVERYTHING.

THIS IS FOR THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF.

THIS IS ALSO FOR THE BUILD-OUT OF THE CENTER TO ACCOMMODATE.

I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HARDING? UH, CUSTOMER FORCE FORESCOUT.

THANK YOU.

I JUST HAVE ONE.

UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE ANY CONTINGENCY MONEY, CORRECT? THIS IS ALL JUST GOING TO BE BOND MONEY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD COME UP.

THIS WOULD BE COME OUT UNDER THE BOND, UM, BOND CEILING AT 37 MILLION.

WE WOULD BE, UH, WE HAVE A LINE ITEM DESIGNATED FOR THIS, UH, ROUGHLY IT'S JUST OVER 3 MILLION, 3 MILLION, $76,807 FOR TECHNOLOGY, UH, FFNE FURNITURE, FIXTURES EQUIPMENT, UM, AS WELL AS A SPECIFIC SOUTHWEST SOLUTIONS.

UH, YOU MAY, YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER THAT APPROVAL, UM, FOR SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT, EVIDENCE, STORAGE, LOCKERS, GUN LOCKERS, AND THE LIKE, SO THIS IS, THIS CAN FALL WITHIN THAT CATEGORY AND BE ACCOMMODATED.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29.

OKAY.

MOTION BY CUTS WERE FORCED CAL SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CASPER TOBY'S YEAH.

SO I GUESS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGIES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE THING OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT? THAT INCLUDES CARD READERS.

WE ARE NOT, AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY POC, WE ARE AS EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE RESIDUAL FUNDS REMAINING FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE CAPTURED.

MOST OF THOSE ITEMS WOULD REMEMBER, ARE BEING CAPTURED UNDER THE GMP ALREADY.

UH, ANYTHING OUTSIDE

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THE GMP THAT NEEDS, THAT HAS A NEED FOR THIS, THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE SOME ALLOCATED, UH, LINE ITEMS FOR THAT.

SO THIS, THIS WILL NOT BLOW UP EVERYTHING.

YOU WILL HAVE MONEY REMAINING FOR THOSE CODES.

OKAY.

SO JUST, IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A LITTLE EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU WOULD USE, WOULD IT BE LIKE FOR THE FIREARM OPTICS, WOULD IT BE FOR THE TEMPLE LINE? SOME OF THE THINGS INCLUDED IN THIS? ABSOLUTELY.

I'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST RIGHT HERE FOR IT.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S THERE, BUT NO FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT THIS LARGE NUMBER IS, WHAT'S GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IT COMING OUT OF, UH, SORRY TO CLARIFY.

YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT AND SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE.

THAT'S CONTROL INTERFACE, A VIDEO WALL.

UH, SO ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS IS, UH, WE HAVE THESE MASSIVE VIDEO WALL.

SO WE HAVE A, WHAT WE CALL VIDEO DISPLAY ERASE JUST BASICALLY A RAISE OF TELEVISIONS IN CERTAIN AREAS, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, CHECKING ON VIDEO SURVEILLANCE OF THINGS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CAMERAS IN THERE THAT CAN ACTUALLY IDENTIFY A LICENSE PLATE GOING THROUGH A PARKING LOT WITHOUT HUMAN INTERACTION, WHICH IS AMAZING.

UM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE, UH, NEXT LEVEL AND, UH, AND FORWARD THINKING FOR POLICE STATIONS THESE DAYS.

AND I REALLY APPLAUD KYLE FOR INCORPORATING THOSE TYPES OF TECH INTO THEIR BUILDING.

UM, THAT WOULD BE SO DISPLAY A RAISE IN WALLS WOULD BE PART OF THAT.

UM, CABLE, TV, TUNER OWNER, FINISHED, UH, OWNER FURNISHED PC FOR VIDEO CONFERENCING, CODEC.

YOU ALSO HAVE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MICROSOFT SURFACE PRO TABLETS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, UM, CINEMA MASSIVE CONTROLS CAMERAS FOR VIDEO CONFERENCING.

UH, SOME OF THESE THINGS, I, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THIS TECH IS LIKE BEYOND SO MANY OF US, BUT ENCODED WORKSTATION INPUTS, OWNER, FURNISHED LAPTOPS, WE ALSO HAVE CUT FROM THE CUSTOM CONFERENCE TABLES.

UM, BINGO IS PART OF THE FURNITURE INSTALLATIONS WE HAVE.

LET ME SEE HERE JUST TO KIND OF, CAUSE AGAIN, I AGREE WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC SERVES TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING INTO THIS STUFF.

JUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO, RIGHT.

YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, RIGHT THERE.

YOU GOT TO HIT.

YEAH.

HERE'S THE SECURITY CAMERA FOR THIS SPECIFIC ROOM.

YEAH.

BUT IT'S JUST IN GENERAL OF WHAT IT IS BECAUSE I WORK IN A FACILITY LIKE WHAT'S BEING BUILT AND JUST THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE IS JUST, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING AND IT'S MUCH NEEDED AND SO FORTH.

SO IT REALLY HELPS WITH OUR, WITH KEEPING THE PLACE SECURE AND SAFE AND ALL THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MY PLEASURE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT

[30.  Consideration and possible action to approve the addition of the Vybe Trail (Option 2) at Public Safety Center in an amount not to exceed $340,000.00. ~ David Harding, AG|CM]

UP AGENDA ITEM 30 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE ADDITION OF THE VIBE TRAIL.

OPTION TWO AT PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $340,000 MR. HARDEN.

SO WHAT THIS IS, UM, MARIN COUNCIL IS A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

WHAT WE HAVE IS THE VIVITROL THAT YOU'RE BUILDING ALL AROUND THE CITY.

THERE IS ALSO GOING TO ROUTE PAST AND BEYOND THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

AND SO IT HAS BEEN POSED THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY CAPTURE THIS INSIDE, UNDERNEATH THE BOND CEILING.

WE DO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.

UM, THERE WERE TWO OPTIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED EARLY ON THROUGH DESIGN AND THROUGH THE CITY.

UM, AND REALLY THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO OPTIONS WAS JUST A SMALL EXTENSION OF THE TRAIL IN ONE SPECIFIC LOCATION VERSUS THE OTHER.

AND THE CITY OPTED TO GO WITH THE MORE ROBUST OF THE TWO OPTIONS.

UH, SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE 340,000 THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT GOING TO EXCEED THAT.

IT WILL LIKELY COME UNDER THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO UMBRELLA TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE CONSERVATIVE AND COMFORTABLE.

AND AGAIN, VERY LIKELY WE'LL COME UNDER THAT NUMBER.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THIS, UH, THIS 12 FOOT WIDE VIBE TRAIL.

I WISH I COULD PUT THIS UP ON THIS.

OH, WOULD THAT BE USEFUL? NOPE.

WE'VE GOT YOUR HERE SO YOU CAN SEE IT HERE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF CALLS OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT A 12 FOOT WIDE CONCRETE TRAIL, UM, THAT WILL INTERLOCK AND INTERLACE WITH THE REST OF THE CITY'S FIVE TRAIL ALONG THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HARDING? CUSTOMER BRADSHAW? YEAH.

DAVID, LAST TIME WE SPOKE, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE, UM, OPTION FOR PAYING OR FINDING FUNDING FOR THE BIOME TRAIL, AS OPPOSED TO TAKING IT AWAY FROM MONEY.

THAT SHOULD BE IN THE BUILDING.

RIGHT? SO W WE TALKED ABOUT CONTINGENCY, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO TAKE THIS OUT OF CONSTRUCTION CONTINGENCY, BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS PUT THIS UNDERNEATH THE BOND CEILING.

SO OUTSIDE THE GMP, NOT CONTINGENCY RELATED AT ALL UNDERNEATH YOUR TOTAL BOND CEILING, YOU DO HAVE THE MONEY TO ACCOMMODATE IT THERE.

UM, BUT IT'S STILL TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO FINISH OUT THE BUILDING.

UH, NO, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, SO YOU HAVE A SURPLUS.

YOU HAVE, I ACTUALLY HAVE THE NUMBERS HERE.

UM, AND, AND THIS, THESE HAVE BEEN SENT TO MARIN COUNCIL AS WELL.

WHAT YOU HAVE IS A $37 MILLION BOND CEILING, UH, BROKEN DOWN VERY ROUGHLY YOU HAVE ABOUT JUST OVER 30 MILLION IN YOUR GMP, WHICH IS YOUR CONSTRUCTION FOR BARTLETT.

COCKE YOU HAVE YOUR DESIGN AND CONSULTING FEE, WHICH INCLUDES US, UH, YOUR DESIGN TEAM, YOUR TESTING, AND BALANCING IT JUST OVER.

IT'S ABOUT 2.3 MILLION.

YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 93,000

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IN YOUR MATERIAL AND TESTING, UH, FOR FURNITURE FIXTURES EQUIPMENT, WHICH WE JUST DISCUSSED WITH TECHNOLOGY AND FURNITURE.

YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OVER 3 MILLION.

UM, AND SO THAT PUTS YOU AT A TOTAL OF ABOUT $35,766,380.

UM, AGAIN, WITH THE BOND PSYLLIUM 37, YOU HAVE A RESIDUAL 1.2, THREE, $3,000,620.

SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE, LET'S JUST SAY THIS 340, NOT TO EXCEED VIBE TRAIL OUT OF YOUR RESIDUAL 1 MILLION, 230 3006 20, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE $893,620.

WE'RE MAKING IN YOUR BOND ON THIS BUILDING.

IS THAT KIND OF THAT'S, THAT'S NOT AT ALL WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO WHEN, WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

I APOLOGIZE IF I'VE MISREPRESENTED.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

IT WAS PROBABLY ON MY END, BUT THANK YOU.

YEAH.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SUPPORT TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER TO BUILD A SIDEWALK THAT WAS NOT EVEN PROPOSED IN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING OR PROJECT CUSTOMER PARSLEY.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN PUSH THIS TO THE END OF THE PROJECT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT AMOUNT AVAILABLE, JUST CONSIDERING OF ALL THE POSSIBLE THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN OR WE MIGHT BE MISSING AT THE END OF THE COMPENSATION.

THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL I WOULD LIKE TO PUSH THIS TO, TO THE END IF I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS OPPOSED TO THAT.

YEAH, DAVID, UM, I, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TAKING THIS OUT OF THAT FUND EITHER, BUT I, I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME BOND MONEY FROM OUR TRAIL SYSTEM, OUR PARK SYSTEM THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS WELL.

SO THERE'S SOME OTHER AVENUES WE CAN PURSUE, BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH TAKING THIS OUT OF THE BOND FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

NO PROBLEM.

AND THE GOOD NEWS IS WE DO HAVE SOME, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY ROUGH.

WE DO HAVE SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGNS ON THIS ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE AT ANY POINT.

RIGHT? SO WE CAN, WE'RE GOING TO HANG ONTO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT FOR THE CITY AT SUCH TIME THAT YOU WANT TO ENGAGE WITH.

WE'LL DEFINITELY HAVE TO FIND A FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT TRAIL.

I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING, PULLING THE DOLLARS OUT OF THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY CASPER FLOOR SCALE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO MY FIRST COMMENT IS GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE A QUESTION ACTUALLY.

UM, THE SURPLUS THAT WE HAVE DOES THAT INCLUDE THE FUTURE DESIGNS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO CREATE.

ONE STAFF IS NO LONGER IN THAT BUILDING, BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS LEAVE THAT BUILDING AND IT HAVE ANOTHER COUNCIL AND ANOTHER TIME HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN IT BACK INTO IT, JUST A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

SO DOES OUR SURPLUS CURRENTLY INCLUDE THAT IT'S SO THERE'S NOT A LINE ITEM FOR THAT IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET AND AMOUNT.

I WILL SAY THAT BEING THIS, BEING A GMP PROJECT AND SPECIFICALLY SEEING THE RISK GMP PROJECT, WHATEVER DOESN'T GET SPENT UNDER THIS BOND IS OF COURSE RETURNED TO THE CITY SO THAT THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED AT THE CITY'S DISCRETION AT THAT POINT.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE TO ALLOCATE FOR FUTURE ENDEAVORS DOWN THE ROAD.

SURE.

YOU COULD DO THAT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S, I WILL SAY THERE'S NOTHING BUDGETED FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

SO MY CONCERN IS WE HAVE A FUTURE ROAD BOND COMING UP, AND AS WE ARE ALL AWARE, WE NEED NEW ROADS.

AND SO MY FEAR IS IF WE USE THIS MONEY IN A WAY THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T APPROVE THAT THEY MAY NOT APPROVE THE NEXT ROAD BOND OR THE NEXT BOND THAT WE NEED, AND THEN WE'RE REALLY IN A PICKLE.

SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MONEY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTERS STAY WITHIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER FOR MORE THAN ONE REASONS, BUT MOSTLY BECAUSE I WANT TO KEEP THAT TRUST WITH THE PUBLIC.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'VE GOT SOME THOUGHTS ON THIS.

SO, UH, NUMBER ONE, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE VIBE TRAIL SYSTEM JUST IN GENERAL AND MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL'S AWARE OF THIS SIGNAL.

YOU KNOW, THE MESSAGING THAT WE'RE SENDING OUT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UH, WE'RE NEGOTIATING DEALS WITH DEVELOPERS ALL AROUND.

AND WE WERE TELLING THEM THAT AS A PART OF THEIR PROJECT, THEY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE CITY'S VIBE TRAIL SYSTEM ON THEIR PROPERTY AS A PART OF THEIR PROJECT.

SO THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS WHAT KIND OF SIGNAL ARE WE SENDING IF WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE WITHOUT TOUCHING ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE PLANNED AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE BOND PROCEEDS TO CONSTRUCT DIVIDE VIDE TRAIL SYSTEM.

AND WE JUST DON'T DO IT.

UH, THE, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE SIGNAL THAT SENDS TO ME, WHICH I THINK IS THE ACTUAL SIGNAL, IS THAT WE REALLY DON'T BELIEVE IN THIS, UH, UH, UH, TRAIL SYSTEM.

UH, SECOND SECONDARILY THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS DESIGNED, WAS DESIGNED AND BUDGETED TO BE THE EXAMPLE ACROSS THE BOARD OF WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WE WANTED TO SEE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

SO THAT GOES BACK MORE THAN TWO, TWO YEARS.

SO THE CHOICE OF BRICK, THE CHOICE OF LANDSCAPING, THE UPGRADES THAT WE MADE THROUGHOUT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, UH, YOU JUST ON AND ON DOWN, DOWN WEEK, THE LIST WE GO, WE WANTED TO SHOW THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY BY THIS PROJECT, EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF A STANDARD THAT WE WANTED TO SET.

AND SO WHILE I CAN UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, MAYBE, UH, TO, UH, TO NOT CONSTRUCT

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THIS, UH, I REALLY WANT TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER GOING AHEAD AND TAKING THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN EXCESS TO CONSTRUCT THE, UH, THE VIBE TRAIL SYSTEM.

UH, WE ARE NOT TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IN ORDER TO DO THIS.

WE WERE PUTTING IT INTO THE PROJECT, INTO THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES TO CONSTRUCT, UH, JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO CONSTRUCT TREES AND LANDSCAPING AND UPGRADED FENCING.

UH, ALL OF THAT IS A PART OF THIS PROJECT.

AND WE DO HAVE IT WITHIN OUR BUDGET TO MAKE THIS UPGRADE.

WE HAVE, WE DID INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER BEFORE WE TOOK IT TO THE VOTERS SPECIFICALLY, IN CASE THERE WERE THINGS THAT CAME UP THAT WE WANTED TO, UH, USE MONEY TO ENHANCE.

AND THIS IS THE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THE BULLSEYE FOR ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO ENHANCE OUR PROJECT, UH, TO, TO CONSTRUCT THAT TRAIL SYSTEM, BECAUSE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROJECT COME FORWARD AND WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE, THE, THE VIBE TRAIL.

AND IF WE DON'T CONSTRUCT OUR END, THEN WE CAN'T TELL THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THEIR END BECAUSE THEY WON'T CONNECT.

AND IF WE'RE NOT CONNECTING IT, IF THE CITY IS NOT DOING IT ON THE CITY'S DOLLAR, THEN I JUST, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT WE'VE, UH, MADE THOSE DEMANDS AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

I'M VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UH, MAY PROTEST.

YEAH, WE'RE NOT SAYING NOT BUILD IT.

WE'RE JUST SAYING LET'S FIND A FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT.

I THINK THAT THE VIVITROL IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT SOME CHANGE ORDERS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER THAT WILL REALLY BRING DOWN THAT RESERVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COST OF MATERIAL RIGHT NOW.

UM, I'M JUST WORRIED OF, OF TOUCHING THOSE DOLLARS RIGHT NOW, AND IN FALLING SHORT ON THIS BOND, CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER THAT WE'RE, UH, TALKING ABOUT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE CHANGES.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M NOT SAYING NOT BUILD IT.

LET'S FIND A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE RIGHT NOW, UNTIL WE CAN, UH, FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

YOU WANT US TO JUST ADD THIS TO IT, JUST TO KIND OF ROUND UP THIS COUNCIL'S FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROJECT.

I MENTIONED KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE BOND CEILING, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE GMP ITSELF.

AND SO AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER WITHIN THE GMP, YOU ALSO HAVE ROBUST CONTINGENCY POTS FOR SPECIFIC THINGS.

I'M YOUR OWNER CONTINGENCY ALMOST $400,000 REMAINING IN THAT ALONE, UM, WITH ESCALATION AS WELL AND CM CONTINGENCY.

SO YOU HAVE, YOU DO HAVE SOME THINGS AVAILABLE.

I DO NOT HAVE, UH, AN OPINION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THIS ONE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I COMMUNICATE ALL THE INFORMATION FOR YOUR USE, UH, CUSTOMER TOBY'S.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM MAYOR.

UH, YOU WERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING DEVELOPERS TO COME IN.

THIS IS WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE VITRIOL AND SO FORTH.

I DO, UH, BUT I JUST WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF DISAGREE BECAUSE IN THIS SENSE, THIS IS STILL BOND MONEY.

THIS IS STILL BOND MONEY THAT WE, UH, ARE ALLOTTED TO FOR THE COMPLETION AND FOR FURTHER POSSIBLE CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, UH, WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING UP WITH ALL THE CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, PRICES ARE GOING UP ON PRODUCT SUPPLY, WHATEVER IT IS.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A MATTER OF CAUTION RIGHT NOW.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE MS. PARSLEY, ME AND MS. BRADSHAW IT'S COMING FROM US.

WAS THERE OTHER WAYS OR OTHER MONEY THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THIS? IF WE WERE TO DO THIS, UH, I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY.

WE WANT TO HAVE THAT GREEN SPACE, BUT, UH, I JUST KIND OF CAUTION ABOUT US, UH, SPENDING $340,000 RIGHT NOW ON THE TRAIL, WHICH, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WHAT ITS FULL PURPOSE IS, EVEN THOUGH THE MONEY IS STILL ALLOTTED FOR JUST THE POLICE STATION FOR THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS FOR RIGHT NOW AT THIS TIME, CUSTOMER ELLISON.

THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THIS ITEM THIS WEEKEND, I HAD THIS KIND OF DEBATE WITHIN MY MIND AS WELL.

THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE ON THIS DICE.

AND ONE PART, YOU KNOW, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING WE CAN INTO THE BUILDING AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

I MEAN, LISTENING TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM, THIS IS NOT ONLY GOING TO BE THE GRANDEST BUILDING THE CITY'S EVER BUILT, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE THE MOST TECHNICALLY LOGICALLY ADVANCED BUILDING THIS CITY WAS EVER EXPERIENCED, UH, PROBABLY IN THIS COUNTY TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.

UM, SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT AND, AND IN THAT MAKES A GREAT IMPRESSION ON ME.

I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND.

AND I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS THOUGH.

AND THERE, I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE TAKEN LIGHTLY BECAUSE W W WILL COME A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE THE LARGER VISION OF THE, THE, THE VIBE TRAIL, THE BIGGEST PART THAT GETS ME SO EXCITED ABOUT

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IT IS THE EQUITY OF THE TRAIL.

BEING ABLE TO GET PEOPLE FROM ALL AROUND OUR CITY, FROM SUBDIVISION TO SHOPPING CENTERS, TO PARKS, TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IN AN EQUITABLE WAY THAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A VEHICLE TO GET THERE AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO THAT PART MAKES AN IMPRESSION ON ME AS WELL AS WELL.

AND YOU ALL KNOW THIS, I, THESE, THOSE THAT WERE AROUND THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN OF THIS, I HAD A BIG PUSH ON LID WITH THIS BUILDING.

DOES THAT THERE'S THAT GO TOWARDS PUBLIC SAFETY? DOES THAT GO TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS WAS THAT PROPOSED IN THE BOND? NO, NOT NECESSARILY, BUT IT WAS IN THAT SAME MINDSET OF WHEN WE CONSTRUCT SOMETHING IN THIS CITY, WE WANT TO SET AN EXAMPLE OF EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING DEVELOPERS TO DO IN OUR CITY.

SO I YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BOB TRAIL, I E A LOW-IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE TWO HUGE RAINWATER HARVESTERS THAT WE HAVE ON, ON THIS BUILDING.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE, DOES THAT GO TOWARDS THE PUBLIC SAFETY? NO, BUT IT'S A BIG, IMPORTANT PACK OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE, UH, PLOT OF LAND.

SO I SEE THAT AND THEREFORE THAT'S WHY I'M ON THE FENCE, BUT I THINK WHERE I WILL FALL OFF THE FENCE ON ONE SIDE IS THAT I WANT TO DO THIS TO SET THAT EXAMPLE AND DO EXACTLY EVERYTHING THAT THE MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT AND SETTING THAT EXAMPLE, WHETHER IT BE WITH THE VIBE, WHETHER IT BE WITH LID AND SUCH AND SO FORTH.

I JUST WOULDN'T BE INCLINED TO EITHER AS COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY SAID, WAIT TOWARDS THE END, OR AS COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW ALLUDED TO FINDING ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.

I THINK THIS COUNCIL HAS SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THAT IF WE'RE COMMITTED TO SOMETHING AND WE WANT TO FUND IT, WE WILL FIND A WAY TO FIGURE OUT TO DO THAT.

AND SO THAT'S, I GUESS, WHERE I'M GOING TO FALL ON THE SIDE OF THE FENCE HERE IS THAT I LIKE TO DO THIS PROJECT.

I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS PROJECT.

I SEE, I SEE YOU BLOCK IT EVERYWHERE, BUT I THINK, RIGHT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD FIND A, EITHER THE, AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SPOKE INITIALLY AT COUNCIL MEMBER PARKS.

SO THESE ARE WAITING TO THE END OR FINDING A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE TO DO THIS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE IN THE BIKE TRAIL AND WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT ACROSS THE CITY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK WE'LL JUST MOVE ON.

SO, WELL, I THINK COUNCIL WHALES HAVE MADE A GREAT POINT ABOUT FINDING ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GREAT ADDITION TO THE TRAIL.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT GO AWAY, BUT I DO.

I'M JUST A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT SPENDING DOLLARS FROM A BOND ON WHEN WE'RE STILL NOT COMPLETE WITH A BUILDING.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS AS A COUNCIL, FIND A FUNDING SOURCE TO FINISH THIS PART OF THE TRAIL OFF.

AND, UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M COMING FROM THE CASPER FLOOR SCALE.

THANK YOU.

I'M I'M IN AGREEANCE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO.

THERE'S NO WAY ANYONE'S GOING TO CONVINCE ME TO TAKE THIS BOND MONEY AND PUT IT TO A VIBE.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO TAKE, MAKE A MOTION TO INSTRUCT, UM, STAFF TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THE VITE TRAIL AROUND THE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER FLOORS, KALE SECOND, AND BY THE MAYORS, THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, UH, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, GETTING IT RIGHT.

YOU SAID A FUNDING SOURCE.

I WOULD LIKE IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OPTIONS RATHER THAN JUST ONE, IF WE CAN AT ALL.

BUT, UH, AND MY EMOTION TO, UM, BE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, TO FIND AS MANY FUNDING SOURCES THAT IS NOT THE BOND TO FUND THE SIDEWALK AND TRAIL AROUND THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

THAT'S AMENABLE TO THE SECOND.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? MAYOR? I HAVE AN ANSWER.

SO PRESENT, I SPOKE ABOUT THIS EARLIER, THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, GENERAL FUND, YOU KNOW, ABSENT ANY SORT OF GRANT AT THIS POINT, UH, THERE IS NOT A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE OTHER THAN BOTTOM LINE, UH, TO DAVID THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS BUILT CONCURRENTLY WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE FLATWORK IMPROVEMENTS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

SO IF YOU'VE SEEN THE DIAGRAM, THIS IS THE SIDEWALK OUT FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UH, THE PATH ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING, ET CETERA.

SO IT REALLY DOES NEED TO BE BUILT CONCURRENTLY WITH THESE, THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO IT'S A DESIGN IN A CONSTRUCTION THAT CAN'T BE DELAYED.

SO, OKAY.

SO THE WHOLE POINT, SO THE MOTION WAS MADE TO FIND ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE.

IF YOU BRING THIS BACK WITH A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE, THEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE IT WITHIN THIS SCOPE.

MY QUESTION WOULD JUST BE, IF THE CASE COMES THAT WE DON'T EXHAUST ALL OF OUR 37 MILLION, WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR REIMBURSEMENT WITH THIS 340,000, THAT PERHAPS WE WOULD SPEND FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BE REIMBURSABLE FROM BRAUN PROCEEDS AT THAT POINT, WHICH WOULD KIND OF GO TO THE OTHER POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ABOUT MAKING IT THE LAST THING,

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RIGHT? SO I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT FROM A CITY MANAGER PERSPECTIVE, IT WAS PART OF THE OVERALL SITE IMPROVEMENTS CONTEMPLATED IN THE BOND LANGUAGE PAGES HAS READ THAT LANGUAGE AND I'LL HAVE HER RESPOND AS WELL.

I MEAN, IT'S ULTIMATELY A POLICY DECISION FOR THE COUNCIL REGARDING MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE I'M JUST, IS IT LEGAL FOR US? IF WE HAVE $340,000 LEFTOVER AND BOND PROCEEDS THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE VIBE TRAIL SYSTEM, THAT BARTLETT COCKE INSTALLS AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT, I MIGHT ASK FOR SOME ASSISTANCE FROM BOND COUNSEL ON THIS QUESTION.

OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

FOR THE RECORD, THE ANSWER WAS IT'S FINE.

I MEAN, LET ME JUST WEIGH IN REAL QUICK.

SO SCOTT, THE ORIGINAL SIDEWALK IN THE FRONT IS GOING TO BE FUNDED BY THE BOND.

IT'S THE PROPOSED ON THE SIDE.

THAT'S NOT, SO THE ORIGINAL SIDEWALK IN THE FRONT DOES COME FROM THE BOND.

SO WE HAVE TO EXCLUDE THAT FROM THE PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT'S SO YEAH, THE ORIGINAL SIDEWALK WAS NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO BE AT THE VIVITROL AND THAT'S THE ISSUE EITHER WAS THE PAST.

SO THE PATH AROUND THIS SIDE ALSO CAME FROM THE BOND, BUT AGAIN, WASN'T WIDE ENOUGH.

SO THESE ARE TO SHORE UP AND MAKE IT ONE.

YEAH, I THINK I'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH FINISHING UP THE FRONT, EVEN EXTENDING IT A LITTLE BIT AND HAVING THAT COME OUT OF THE BOND BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS PROPOSING TO BOND THE FRONT SIDEWALK.

IT'S THE VIBE DRONE, THE SIDE THAT I, I WOULD, UH, HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, BUT YEAH, THE TRAIL ON THE SIDE I THINK WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO BE EIGHT FOOT AND I'LL LOOK AT DAVID FOR THAT, BUT I THINK IT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS EIGHT.

SO THESE ARE JUST TO, TO WIDEN TO 12, THE FRONT AND THE SIDE, AND THEN TO CREATE THAT LITTLE TAIL UNDER THE BRIDGE.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

WHY, WHY THE EXISTING, WHICH WAS ALREADY GOING TO BE IN THE BOND? MAY I ASK A QUESTION? WHY CAN THIS WAIT TILL THE END? I, IT, IT CAN WAIT TILL THE END.

UM, IT CAN WAIT UNTIL LATER.

UM, THERE, THERE DOES, THERE WILL COME A POINT AT WHICH THIS BECOMES PROHIBITIVE TO BARTLETT COCKE IN TERMS OF, UM, EXTENDED GENERAL CONDITION DAYS TO THEIR CONTRACTS.

SO IT BEHOOVES YOU IN A WAY THAT YOU, YOU HAVE A CONTRACTOR ON SITE WHO'S ALREADY MOBILIZED TO WHO HAS THE CAPABILITY AND SOPHISTICATION TO DO THIS FOR YOU.

UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ENGAGE HIM AT THE RIGHT POINT AND I WILL FIND OUT WHEN THAT IS WHERE YOU, UH, I ALREADY HAVE BEEN IN MY MIND TO DO, AND I WISH I HAD ALREADY THOUGHT THAT THROUGH, BUT I WILL GET THAT FOR YOU.

UM, KIND OF THE POINT OF WHICH OF THE POINT OF NO RETURN BEFORE YOU START TO SEE AND, OR INCUR DELAYS BY, BY MEANS OF EXTENDED GENERAL CONDITIONS.

I CAN FIND THAT DROP DEAD DATE FOR YOU OUT.

UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE THE DATE AT WHICH YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD WANT TO HEAVILY CONSIDER YES OR NO ON THIS, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, YOU THEN CONSIDER LETTING THIS GO FROM BARTLETT COCKE SCOPE, ENGAGING A SEPARATE CONTRACTOR, PAYING MOBILE.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PREMIUM TO ENGAGE A SEPARATE CONTRACTOR THEN TO ENGAGE THE ONE YOU ALREADY HAVE ON SITE.

I UNDERSTAND MY THING IS LIKE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SURPLUS, RIGHT? BUT WE HAVE ALL SEEN WHAT HAPPENED WITH LAVAR DAY AND THEN LIKE LIFT STATION, DIDN'T GOT PUT INTO PLANS.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO ADD THAT TO, UH, TO THE COST OF THE PROJECT.

WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, A MONTH AND A HALF FROM NOW, THERE'S SOMETHING WE'RE MISSING.

AND THEN THE SURPLUS KEEPS GOING IS GOING TO GO DOWN.

SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND BRINGING BACK, WHEN IS THE DEADLINE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION, I WILL REALLY APPRECIATE THAT IF WE CANNOT FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WHICH IS THE EMOTION THAT WAS JUST ME.

AND IF WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH, WE MAY ACTUALLY FIND THAT THAT DATE, WHATEVER IT IS, MAY COINCIDE WITH A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF COMPLETION THAT LEAVES THE COUNCIL WITH A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMFORTABILITY.

AT THAT POINT IN THE PROJECT COMPLETION, THEN YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, WE'VE EXECUTED THE MAJORITY OF THIS CONTRACT.

THE LIKELIHOOD THAT SOMETHING BLOWS UP AT THIS POINT IS PROBABLY LESS.

AND THEN THEREFORE, MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO I'LL GET THAT FOR YOU.

SO, OKAY.

SO THE HAPPY MEDIUM IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED DOLLARS FOR SOME OF THIS.

SO LET'S DEDUCT THOSE DOLLARS THAT WE HAD FROM THE ORIGINAL PRICE THAT YOU GAVE US SOMEBODY TO GO OF 330, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE.

AND THEN THE ONLY FUNDING SOURCE YOU HAVE TO DO.

WHAT'S THE ADDITIONAL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS THAT, YEAH, I SHOULD, I SHOULD CLARIFY THIS.

THIS IS FOR THE ADDITIONAL WORK INVOLVED THAT THIS WOULD BE OVER AND ABOVE.

SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR TO FIND NOW IT'S NOT THE 300 AND SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS IT'S CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME DOLLARS ALLOCATED FOR SIDEWALKS IN THAT.

WHERE ARE THOSE DOLLARS THAT WERE ALLOCATED FOR THAT? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT WAS.

DAVID, DO YOU HAVE THAT? I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT OFF HAND, BUT I CAN GET THEM READY AS WELL.

UH, THREE AT THREE 30 THOUGH, GETS US TO FROM EIGHT TO 12.

BUT IF WE'VE GOT THOSE ORIGINAL DOLLARS ALREADY PROPOSING THE BOND, WE'VE ALREADY TOLD THE RESIDENTS WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THAT ON IT.

SO WE COULD ADD THOSE DAUGHTERS AND THEN ADD WHAT WE'RE SHORT.

WELL, I THINK IF WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THIS, WE JUST SAID, WE'RE NOT TAKING IT.

WE'RE BUILDING IT TO SPEC.

IT WOULD BE AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, CORRECT.

IT GETS BUILT.

SO WE HAVE TO

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GIVE SOME KIND OF SIGNAL TO BORROW THE COP, WHETHER WE WANT TO DO THIS OR NOT.

SO MY PROPOSAL AND MY, MY OPINION IS THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY PROJECT FOR US TO COMPLETE CONCURRENTLY WITH THIS.

UH, IF THE, IF THERE IS A DESIRE OF COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DEPLETING THE BOND PROCEEDS, AND WE WANT TO USE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.

NOW, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE BOND COUNCIL HAS TOLD US THAT IF WE DIDN'T EXHAUST ALL OF OUR FUNDS, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE FOR THAT.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SEND THE MESSAGE THAT WE DO WANT TO CONSTRUCT THIS.

UH, SO I WOULD PREFER AS OPPOSED TO THE MOTION TO HAVE THEM.

UM, THE, UH, THERE'D BE SOMETHING BROUGHT BACK TO JUST APPROVE IT, BUT TO INSTRUCT FINANCE, TO TAKE THIS OUT OF GENERAL FUND, AS OPPOSED TO BOND PROCEEDS.

AND I'M CURIOUS IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD SUPPORT SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS THING OFF HIGH CENTER WITHOUT DEALING WITH THE, UH, WITHOUT IMPACTING THE, UH, THE BOND BUDGET AT ALL CUSTOMER FOR SCALE.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THERE IS NO BETTER SHOW APPROVED THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS VIBE THAN TO PUT IT IN OUR BUDGET AND THEN PAY FOR IT THAT WAY.

INSTEAD OF SAYING, WE WANT TO PAY FOR IT WITH A BOND, WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR IT OURSELVES.

AND AT THE END OF THE 10 YEARS, OR WHENEVER THE END OF THE TIME WE CAN HAVE EXTRA MONEY, WE CAN REPLACE IT ACCORDING TO THE BOND COUNCIL, WE CAN REPLACE THAT MONEY.

BUT I THINK SHOWING THAT THE DEVELOPERS SHOWING THE DEVELOPERS THAT WE ARE WILLING TO SPEND OUR OWN MONEY OUTSIDE OF A BOND, I THINK THAT SHOWS REAL COMMITMENT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED.

IS THERE A SECOND? HANG ON.

THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED.

IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED, THERE'S BEEN A SECOND.

SO WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE TO CEASE DEBATE, PARSLEY RIZZO, PREVIOUS ELLISON BRADSHAW, MITCHELL FLORES.

KALE.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES FOUR TO THREE, A ROLL CALL, VOTE ON THE MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES RELATED TO THIS ITEM.

BRADSHAW.

BYE.

I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? HI.

HI MITCHELL.

ALRIGHT, FLORES KALE.

YES.

RIZZO ELLISON.

FIRSTLY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES.

SEVEN ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT STEP AGENDA

[31.  Consider and possible action on a proposal from AG|CM Inc. for Project Management Services for the proposed 104 S. Burleson Building Project and to authorize the City Manager to execute a contract in an amount not to exceed $211,152.00. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]

ITEM NUMBER 31.

CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROPOSAL FROM AGC M UH, FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE PROPOSED 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON, UH, PROJECT, AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACT AND AMOUNT, NOT TO EXCEED $211,152.

AMBER LEWIS, GOOD EVENING.

AMBER LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

FOR THE RECORD.

UH, YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL IN YOUR PACKET FROM AGC M TO PROVIDE PROJECT MANAGER SERVICES FOR THE BUILDING AT 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON.

UM, IT WILL BE SIMILAR IN SCOPE TO THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES THEY PROVIDE, UH, ALL OUR OTHER PROJECTS.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF AGC, UM, RYAN IS HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, COUNCIL MEMBER, FLUOROSCOPE? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

UM, I REALLY LIKE ACGM.

I THINK THEY'RE, UM, THEY HAVE GREAT CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIPS.

THEY'RE VERY THOUGHTFUL.

UM, AND WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 31 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FLOORS.

KALE.

SECOND ABOUT COUNSELOR.

ALISON, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, UH, NEXT UP OUR AGENDA ITEMS, 32 THROUGH 34, THEY ARE ALL RELATED.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO ME, BRING THEM UP TOGETHER.

UH, AGENDA ON 32

[32.  Consider and possible action on a Public Improvement District Deposit Agreement by and between the City of Kyle, Texas and Meritage Homes of Texas, LLC (Limestone Creek). ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]

CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT DEPOSIT AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF CONTEXT IS THE MERITAGE HOMES FOR, UH, OF TEXAS LLC LIMESTONE CREEK, UH, AGENDA ITEM 33

[33.  Consider and possible action on a Development Agreement by and between the City of Kyle, Texas and Meritage Homes of Texas, LLC (Limestone Creek). ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]

CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY IN BETWEEN SAFE CONTEXT IS MERITAGE HOMES, ELLA OF TEXAS, LLC, LIMESTONE CREEK AND AGENDA ITEM 34

[34.  Consider and possible action on a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas accepting a Petition for Creation of the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District; Setting a public hearing under Sec. 372.009 of the Texas Local Government Code on the advisability of the creation of the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District within the City of Kyle, Texas; and Authorizing the issuance of notice by the City Secretary of Kyle, Texas regarding the public hearing. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]

CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION OF CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, UH, ACCEPTING A PETITION FOR CREATION OF A LIMESTONE CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

MS. AMBER LEWIS, MR. LEWIS TO THE MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.

SORRY, I'M GETTING TIRED.

UH, MATT, IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE POWERPOINT THAT I EMAILED YOU EARLIER TODAY, THAT'D BE GREAT.

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UM, BEFORE YOU, TONIGHT, YOU HAVE A DEPOSIT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS, UM, SIMILAR TO ALL PIDS.

THEY, UH, OUR DEPOSIT TO PAY FOR ALL THE CONSULTANTS THAT THE CITY USES TO HELP THEM THROUGH THE PID PROCESS.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND I'LL KIND OF POINT OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AS PART OF THAT.

AND THEN THE FINAL IS THE RESOLUTION AND, UM, SETTING A DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, LET ME SEE.

OKAY.

SO I THINK WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS, UH, THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT THE PID TOR TERS IS GOING TO PROVIDE.

AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD, UH, THEIR PORTION OF WATERSTONE BOULEVARD.

WHOOPS, WHAT HAPPENED? OKAY.

UH, WITH LANDSCAPING, HER SCAPE THAT'S $5.4 MILLION, UM, GO FORTH BOULEVARD AND STORM DRAINAGE.

AND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE QUAIL RIDGE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

UM, IN, IN THESE PARKS AND TRAILS AND 2.8 MILLION AND THEN A WASTEWATER LIFT STATION IN FOREST MAINE, AND THE PRO RATA SHARE OF OFFSITE ELEVATED STORAGE WATER TAKE.

AND WE DO HAVE ELLIOT JONES WITH MERITAGE MERITAGE HOMES HERE TONIGHT.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF HIM, SOUNDS GOOD.

YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS, GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR COUNCIL, LEE JONES, MERITAGE HOMES DIVISION VICE-PRESIDENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET ME FLIP BACK TO HERE, INTRODUCE MYSELF.

UH, MERITAGE HOMES IS NOT PRESENTLY BUILDING, UH, IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

WE HAVE IN THE PAST, UH, WE BUILT IN, UH, UH, WOODLANDS OFF OF A FM ONE 50 ON THE EAST SIDE.

AND, UM, WE DIDN'T DEVELOP THAT COMMUNITY.

UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP THIS COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MERITAGE, WE, UH, UH, WE'VE BEEN THE ENERGY STAR PARTNER OF THE YEAR FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS.

AND WE HAVE MADE AN UNPARALLELED COMMITMENT TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY, UH, UH, FOR A PUBLIC BUILDER.

AND, UH, THIS AWARD IS SOMETHING THAT'S GIVEN OUT BY THE EPA.

EVERY HOME WE BUILD HAS SPRAY FOAM INSULATION, MULTI-SPEED HVAC, UH, IN KIND OF SEVERAL OTHER FEATURES, SORRY, I'M MAKING YOU SIT THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S REALLY COOL.

CHECK IT OUT.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE LIKE THE VIDEO DOORBELL AND THE IN CONNECT SERIES AND THE, UH, REMOTE CONTROLLED GARAGE DOOR, THE SMART DOOR LOCKS AND THE SMART THERMOSTAT, THIS TYPE OF THING.

WE ALSO ARE AN AVID AWARD-WINNER, WHICH IS A POST-CLOSE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SURVEY THAT'S GIVEN TO OUR CUSTOMERS.

AND, UM, SO ANYWAY, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROUD OF.

UH, WE, UM, JUST HIGH LEVEL AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BUT THIS, UH, PROPERTY YOU PREVIOUSLY, UH, ZONED IT.

AND IT HAS A PRELIM THAT PREDATES, UH, THE CITY'S THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

UH, AND SO WE APPROACHED THE CITY ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND, UH, WORKED WITH STAFF ON, UH, SOME FINANCING DISTRICT ALTERNATIVES TO IMPROVE THE PLAN, UH, THE PRELIM.

AND SO WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

UH, PREVIOUSLY IT HAD 708 LOTS.

THIS ONE HAS 682.

SO IT'S, UH, 24 FEWER, UH, WHICH IS THE RESULT OF ADDING GOFORTH BOULEVARD AND THE, UH, ROUNDABOUT THERE ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, THAT WILL, UH, INCLUDE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL, UH, IN THE ROAD WILL EXTEND TO THE SOUTH EDGE OF QUAIL RIDGE.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH CORAL RIDGE, IT'S GOT, UH, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUES AND SOME FLOODING ISSUES, AND THIS WILL, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THAT SITUATION.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'LL BUILD THAT UP TO THE NORTH, UH, UH, BOUNDARY LINE.

UH, PROJECT WILL INCLUDE AN AMENITY CENTER, UH, WITH A, UM, A POOL CABANA RESTROOMS, SPLASH PAD, UH, PLAYGROUND PARKING AREA.

UH, WE'LL HAVE OVER 5,000 LINEAR FEET OF TRAILS.

UM, THIS, UH, GOFORTH BOULEVARD WILL ALSO INCLUDE, UM, 12 FOOT, UH, SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE, FIVE FOOT ON THE OTHER, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, UM, UH, 2,800 LINEAR FEET.

AND, UH, IT'S A 52 FOOT PAVEMENT SECTION.

UH, WE'LL ALSO, SO THIS PROPERTY HAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, UH, AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND THIS IS AN AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

UH, THE PREVIOUS ONE HAD US BUILDING TWO LANES OF THIS, UM, UH, WATERSTONE BOULEVARD THAT RIGHT OF WAY WAS CONDEMNED BY THE WATERSTONE DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHICH IS THE LASALLE GROUP, UH, TO THE EAST, WHICH IS IN THE CITY OF ST.

MARCUS.

UH, BUT, UH, THEY CONDEMN THAT.

AND SO THEY HAVE A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDES IT.

DON'T BUILD THE FIRST TWO LANES AND WE'D COME IN AND BUILD THE SECOND TWO BY DOING IT THIS WAY.

ALL FOUR LANES WILL BE BUILT AT ONCE, WHICH, UM, I THINK IS ACTUALLY KIND

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OF BETTER FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

SO ANYWAY, AS, UM, UH, MS. LEWIS JUST KIND OF WALKED YOU THROUGH, THESE ARE OUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, IS A RESULT OF THE PROJECT.

UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT AND SAM CO BECAUSE THEY REALLY KIND OF STEPPED IN HERE, UH, AND, UM, HELPED PUT, UH, A BOW ON THIS SO WE COULD GET IT BEFORE YOU.

AND IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR, SO I'LL STOP THERE AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO ACTUALLY COMMEND YOU FOR THE, YOUR STEADFASTNESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN, YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND IT IS COMPLICATED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LAYERS OF COMPLEXITY THERE ARE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE COMPLICATED PROJECTS JUST FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, TO DEAL WITH THE CHALLENGES OF PIPELINES AND DRAINAGE AND NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE PROBLEMS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE AS OPPOSED TO, UH, ADD TO, UH, WHICH I THINK PROBABLY IS RESOLVED HERE.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES, IN MY OPINION OF, UH, AN EAST SIDE PROJECT THAT, THAT REALLY STEPS UP TO THE PLATE.

SO I, FOR MYSELF, I WANT TO JUST COME IN, USE THEIR DISCUSSION, UH, ON THIS ITEM MAY PRETEND THE FULL CABANA.

IS THAT JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE SUBDIVISION OR RESERVED MY FAULT? YEAH.

SORRY.

I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT SOME OF THE AMENITIES.

I KNOW THE POOL IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT AS FAR AS THE PLAYSCAPE FROM THAT IS THAT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, UH, SIR, IT'S ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATED AS A, UH, PRIVATE AMENITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS.

OKAY.

UH, I'M, IT'S GREAT FOR THE RESIDENTS.

I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE.

WHAT WE COULD DO IN THIS PROJECT, SCOTT, TO TRY TO BRING ANOTHER LITTLE PARK IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING REALLY IN THAT GENERAL AREA, WE DO HAVE PARKS DOWN ONE 50.

I WAS JUST THINKING OF SOMETHING IN THAT AREA THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO SOME, MAYBE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INCORPORATED IN THAT.

WELL, COOL.

QUAIL RIDGE IS GETTING A MAJOR FINANCIAL BENEFIT IN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE BEEN PLAGUING.

I, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

CAUSE I, I, THIS, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I'M GOING TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO EXTRA, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO FOR THE RESIDENTS OF COVERAGE.

IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT A MINI I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD COME UP WITH, TRY TO BRING SOMETHING ELSE TO THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA.

CAN WE COUNSEL NEVER, I, I APOLOGIZE.

LET ME, AS I SIT HERE AND THINKING ABOUT THIS, THE, THE, A POOL AND A SPLASH PATTERN IN CLOSED AREA, UH, THE PARKING AREA IN THE, UM, UH, PLACE GATE, UH, THAT'S NOT RESTRICTED ACCESS IN ANY WAY.

IT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT PART'S NOT OTHERWISE OKAY.

THAT THAT'S ALL I WANT.

I KNOW THE POOLS HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, BECAUSE OF, UH, THE SAFETY FEATURES, I KNOW THAT HAS TO BE RESTRICTED, BUT KNOWING THAT THE PLAYSCAPE THERE IS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

I'M GOOD WITH IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I MIGHT ALSO ADD IT.

IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE COOL SPRINGS, PALMS AND TRAILS, JUST TOMS AND OUTDOOR DEVELOPMENT THERE.

SO THAT IS A CITY PARK.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

CUTS RAILS.

YEAH.

AND, UH, I WANNA THANK THE COMMENTS THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT UNPRECEDENTED EITHER THAT WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED WITH DEVELOPERS TO PROVIDE PUBLIC AMENITIES.

WE HAD ONE DOWN, UH, UH, THE FOLKS, UH, DANIEL'S GROUP.

UM, I FORGET I'M FORGETTING THE NAME RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT BIG, HUGE PUBLIC POND THAT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY.

SO THERE, THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION I SEE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PONDS ON HERE.

COULD YOU JUST DESCRIBE WHAT THOSE WOULD ACTUALLY BE? THERE'S LIKE SIX OF THEM, OR SO ARE THOSE JUST DETENTION OR JUST DETENTION PONDS? UM, MAYBE PUT DETENTION ON THERE.

UH, BUT SO I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.

MY, MY COMMENTS THOUGH, UM, MORE RELATION TO THE, UM, THE VARIETY IN HOUSING, UH, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SETS HERE.

I'VE BEEN A PROPONENT OF A VARIETY OF HOUSING FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN THIS CITY, INCLUDING TOWNHOMES.

SO, UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE GRADUATE THROUGH, UH, THEIR HOME NEEDS AND WHAT THEY WANT AS FAR AS THAT GOES THROUGHOUT THEIR PROGRESSION IN LIFE.

SO I'M ALWAYS A FAN OF TRYING TO GET A VARIETY THERE.

SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

I DO ALSO SEE THAT, UH, ALL THE TOWNHOMES WILL BE DONE WITHIN THE TWO FIRST TWO PHASES AS WELL, WHICH IS GREAT.

UM, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAD, BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE THAT IN THE AGENDA ITEMS IS THERE'S A, THERE'S A TERM IN YOUR SLIDE THERE, COME COMING WITH THAT ABOUT,

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UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

I'VE GOT SOME SMART CONSULTANTS WITH ME THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO RELY ON IF WE GET IN TOO MUCH INTO THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF THE TERM.

BUT THE IDEA HERE IS I'M TRYING TO, UH, USE THIS PROJECT TO MAXIMIZE THE CONTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE CITY.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S SORT OF BEEN THE THEORY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DELIVER THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU WANT.

UH, AND THE SPECIFIC REASON FOR USING THE TERMS IS, UH, TO CAPTURE, UM, UH, ENOUGH VALUE THROUGH A FUTURE BOND SALE, UH, IN ORDER TO FINANCE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT, AND I HAVE TO APPEAL STUFF OUT SO THAT, AND THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE, A YEAR LONG PROCESS THAT WE DISCUSSED, BUT IT LED TO, UH, KIND OF THIS INCLUSION OF, UH, UH, GO FORTH AND ASSOCIATED, UH, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS BASICALLY.

OKAY.

SO, AND I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT, CAUSE WE'VE HAD THAT ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT INSTANCES.

WE'VE HAD SOME THAT HAVE OBTAINED DETERS.

WE'VE ALSO PUSHED BACK AND DEVELOPERS HAVE COME BACK WITHOUT THE TERRORS AND STILL DONE REALLY INCREDIBLE PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE'VE BROUGHT INTO OUR CITY EVEN.

SO THIS IS CHALLENGING BECAUSE MY BIG TEST FOR D FOR TERS, WHICH, UH, I KNOW WE GAVE DIRECTION SEVERAL MONTHS BACK TO HAVE A POLICY ON THIS, BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THAT, MY BIGGEST GAUGE ENCOMPASS FOR TERS OR WHAT IS THE GREATER BENEFIT TO THE REGION.

AND I AM VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER IN THE QUILT RIDGE AREA.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS PLAGUED THOSE PEOPLE FOR FAR TOO LONG.

AND SO I SEE THAT AS A GREAT BENEFIT IS A REGIONAL BENEFIT.

I REALLY DO.

UM, I KNOW TYPICALLY WE HAVE LOOKED AT PARKS AND PUBLIC SPACES AS THAT REGIONAL BENEFIT.

THAT IS A BIG REASON WHY I'VE BEEN A SUPPORTIVE TERJE NUMBER TWO, UM, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ALWAYS STUFF YOU CAN SEE THOUGH, OR AT LEAST ON THE EPR DAY.

AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, THE DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THE STORM WATER ISSUES THAT THIS AREA HAS HAD, I'M INCLINED TO THINK THAT PERHAPS THIS COULD MEET THAT BAROMETER.

UM, IT'S TOUGH THOUGH, BECAUSE I I'M, THE COUNCIL CAN PROBABLY TELL YA I'M NOT LIED ON GIVING OUT TOURS.

I REALLY, UH, UNLESS I SEE A LARGER BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, YOU YOU'RE GETTING A PID, WHICH DEFINITELY ADDS AN ADDITIONAL VALUE IN ORDER TO GET A GREATER VALUE OUT OF YOUR, UM, UH, THE TRACT HERE.

AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN, UM, THE HOT ITEM AS OF THIS PAST YEAR, THE PID TERS COMBOS, BUT I JUST WANT TO GENERALLY SAY TO DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT I'M, I'M SPEAKING AS COUNTS, MOVIE DECKS, ELLISON, UH, PID, TURDS COMBOS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO SEE.

THE BELMONT COMMUNITY CONTINUED TO COME WITH THEIR HAT IN HAND ASKING FOR IF I'M GOING TO BE QUITE FRANK, IF YOU ARE DEVELOPING A COMMUNITY, BRING A LARGE REGIONAL BENEFIT TO THOSE SURROUNDING IN THE AREA, IMPROVE SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S WHY I'M LEANING TOWARDS, UH, SUPPORT OF THIS, THIS PROJECT, JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE, THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, SCENARIOS.

IF I COULD REQUEST OF YOU AND STAFF TO INFORM ALL OF COUNCIL WILL BE AN EMAIL, A DETAILED OUTLINE OF THE OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REGIONALLY BENEFITING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT ALL IN ONE PLACE.

THAT'LL BE MY ASK OF THIS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU CUSTOMER EVER TOBY.

NO, CATHERINE.

DOESN'T THAT SOUNDS FAIR.

YEAH.

TO GET A WHOLE BROAD PROSPECT OF THAT AREA, EVERYTHING IS EVERYTHING I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A JANATA 32 THROUGH 34 MOTION BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES.

KALE'S THIRD DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP JEN, I'M

[35.  Discussion and possible action regarding pay increases for seasonal pool staff with the purpose of providing residents with more public access to the city pool. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]

35 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING PAY INCREASES FOR SEASONAL POOL STAFF WITH THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING RESIDENTS WITH MORE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE CITY POOL CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE.

THANK YOU.

UM, CAN I CONFIRM I, WHEN I LOOKED ONLINE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A STARTING PAY OF $12 AN HOUR FOR LIFEGUARDS.

IS THAT STILL CORRECT? THIS MARIANA

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ON THE SPINOZA PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

THE STARTING PAY IS $12, BUT ONCE CERTIFIED THEY GET THE $3 INCREASE TO $15.

OKAY.

SO I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMPLAINTS REGARDING JUST NOT HAVING ACCESSIBILITY TO THE POOL.

AND I KNOW WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON IT, FIXING IT UP.

SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE COULD SOME OUT TEMPORARY, LIKE JUST PAY THE SEASONAL PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY TO BE IN THIS HOT SUN.

AND DID YOU THIS TEDIOUS TASK OF LIFEGUARDS SO WE COULD UTILIZE OUR CITY POOL.

THAT'S ULTIMATELY MY GOAL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OPEN UP TO, I MEAN, HOW MANY HOURS IS THE POOL OPEN USUALLY? WELL, SO THE POOL IS OPEN EVERY DAY FOR OUR SUMMER CAMP AND FOR OUR SWIM TEAM.

UM, AND THEN IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, AND THEN ALL THE RENTALS FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.

SO, SO IF WE WERE GOING TO STAFF IT FOR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, HERE'S THE DEAL.

IT IS SUMMER.

AND THERE ARE A LOT, ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST SIDE, A LOT OF PLACES AND SUBDIVISIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE SWIMMING POOLS.

SO WHAT I WANT TO OFFER THE RESIDENTS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GO SWIMMING, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY BASIC, UM, THING THAT TI OFFERED TO THE RESIDENTS.

AND SO IF WE WERE TO STAFF IT, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT DOES A NORMAL, I GUESS, WHAT WAS IT OPENED LAST YEAR? THE YEAR BEFORE? WHAT DOES A NORMAL FIVE TO SIX HOURS A DAY, EXCEPT FOR ONE DAY OF THE WEEK, WE SHUT DOWN FOR CLEANING.

OKAY.

AND I DON'T, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY.

I DON'T WANT TO OVERWHELM YOU GUYS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY HOPE FOR EXTRA PAY IS SO WE CAN GET PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THEN WANNA MAKE SOME MONEY.

UM, BUT WOULD OPENING THIS POOL FIVE DAYS A WEEK OR FOUR MORE, WOULD THAT PUT A BIG STRAIN ON YOU GUYS? SO, UM, WITH A RECENT INCREASE OF $15 AN HOUR, UM, WE CURRENTLY WOULDN'T, WE'D HAVE TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THAT LINE ITEM IF YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE IT ANYMORE.

UM, AND THEN IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT THE STAFF THAT GET HIRED ARE CERTIFIED.

IF THEY'RE NOT CERTIFIED, IT COULD TAKE TWO WEEKS, JUST A LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS TO GET THEM CERTIFIED.

UM, BUT IF WE COULD PAY PEOPLE MORE, I MEAN, ALWAYS HELPS.

WELL, I KNOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND I'M BY NO MEANS, WANT TO LOOK UP TO AUSTIN, BUT I KNOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS STARTED ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES AT $22 AN HOUR.

AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE PAY $22 AN HOUR, BUT MAYBE $22 FOR SEASONAL PEOPLE.

THAT WAY WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY NOT HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PAY FOR, FOR THE POOL AND WOULD BE IDEAL FOR ME.

SO I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.

YEAH.

AUSTIN DID GO UP TO $22 AND STEEL CANNOT FILL THOSE POSITIONS.

UH, SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW COUNCIL OR STAFF WOULD FEEL ABOUT IT IS LOOKING AT HIRING FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND KEEPING THE POLL OPEN YEAR ROUND.

WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MONTHS THAT YOU CAN'T USE A POLL.

AND EVEN IN JANUARY, WHEN WE DO THE POLAR BEAR SPLASH, PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE ENJOYING IT.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE STAFF COME BACK MAYBE WITH A PLAN FOR HIRING A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES TO KEEP THE POOL UP AND SEASONAL.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN, WE CAN GET MORE USE OUT OF THAT POOL INSTEAD OF JUST CONCENTRATING ON THE SUMMER MONTHS.

I THINK THAT THE WEATHER HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS IS, IS STILL ALLOWS OUR RESIDENTS TO USE THAT POOL MORE THAN JUST THOSE FEW MONTHS THAT WE ALLOCATE EVERY YEAR.

SO I JUST, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THERE, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE OUR POOL OPEN A LOT MORE.

RIGHT? YEAH.

I'M ABOUT TO MAKE ME LEARN HOW TO SWIM AND CARPENTRY $2 AN HOUR.

JUST TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, TELL YOU RIGHT NOW.

I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO SWIM, BUT I WOULD LEARN.

UH, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I CERTAINLY, AND WE'VE ALL GOTTEN THESE EMAILS.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

I THINK COUNT ALL OF COUNCIL HAS BEEN GETTING THESE EMAILS AND, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I TELL RESIDENTS WHEN THEY REACH OUT AND LIKE, WE ALL AGREE WITH YOU.

WE WANT THIS POOL OPEN THAT IT'S THIS SUMMER, THIS IS TEXAS.

THAT IS THE DESIRE.

THERE'S NO ONE UP HERE OR IN STAFF.

I DON'T THINK ANYWHERE THAT DOES NOT WANT THAT CITY POOL OPEN.

YOU ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THE MORE DIRECT QUESTION IS WHAT WOULD BE THE FULL TIME THAT YOU WOULD IDEALLY IF STAFF WASN'T AN ISSUE WITH LIFEGUARDS AND SUCH THE TIME IN WHICH TO HAVE THE POOL OPEN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TARGETING.

THAT'S THE QUESTION THERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING DIFFERENT CITIES AND THE NATIONAL NEWS NATIONALLY, IT'S A SHORTAGE OF LIFEGUARDS EVERYWHERE.

EVERY CITY IS STRUGGLING TO GET THEM.

UH, THE LATEST DATA I HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO, 50% OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS GOT A SUMMER JOB.

NOW IT'S DOWN TO A THIRD.

SO THAT IS A PIPELINE THAT HAS BEEN DRYING UP.

AND I'M NOT SAYING HIGH-SCHOOL STUDENTS, AREN'T DOING SOMETHING ELSE REALLY

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GOOD, BUT THEY'RE NOT BEING LIFEGUARDS RIGHT NOW.

AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN CITIES ACROSS JUST TO, UH, UH, THE MPDS POINT RAISING, UH, THE WAGE HASN'T NECESSARILY SOLVED THAT PROBLEM ALL THE TIME EITHER.

UM, DESPITE MY COMMENT EARLIER, UH, AND SO IT WAS, YOU DID, I WAS LISTENING TO THE END OF THIS PODCAST TO SEE WHAT THE MAGICAL SOLUTION WAS ON HOW TO FIX THIS.

AND IT WAS ESSENTIALLY CHANGING WHAT WE THINK OF WHEN IT COMES TO LIFEGUARDS, WHETHER THAT'S THE LOOK, THE AGE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

I, I KNOW, UH, THE CITY STAFF AND CITY MANAGER PROPERLY, WE WERE TAKEN BACK BY THE COMMENT BY AMERIPRO TIM RIZZO.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE SOLUTION, BUT IT MAY TAKE SOME OUT OF THE BOX THINKING SOMETIMES TO MAYBE TRY AND FIND THAT SOLUTION.

UH, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

AND I THINK I PROBABLY DON'T TRY TO GO OUT THERE ON THIS BRANCH VERY OFTEN, BUT SPEAKING FOR THE ENTIRE COUNCIL PUBLIC, WE ALL WANT THAT, THAT POOL OPENED AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.

UH, AND SO IF, IF IT'S STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT HOURLY WAGE INCREASE, CAUSE I KNOW IT'S THE 12 COMING ON, THEN THEY GET BOOSTED UP TO 15 WITH THE CERTIFICATION.

THERE'S ALSO THE $50 SIGN-ON IF THEY COMPLETE THE SEASON, THEN THEY GET ANOTHER 200.

CORRECT.

SO THEY'RE THERE THERE'S BEEN, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF BEEN INCREMENTAL, BUT THERE'S BEEN EFFORTS TO TRY AND USE THE CARROT OF MONEY TO BRING PEOPLE IN IF YOU WILL.

AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL NOT QUITE GETTING THERE.

SO DOES, I DON'T THINK 22 IS WHERE WE GO, BUT 16, 17, WHAT'S THAT MAGIC NUMBER THAT REALLY DOES DO THAT IF AT ALL, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE COULD RAISE IT UP TO $18 AN HOUR AND STILL NOT GET ANYBODY APPLIED, THEN WHAT'S THE SOLUTION.

RIGHT.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

AND I KNOW JUST WAX POETIC UP HERE FOR A BIT, BUT I WOULD, I'D LIKE A MORE STRATEGIC AND CERTAINLY EXPEDITED, UH, REVIEW BY STAFF ON WHAT YOU ALL REALLY FEEL LIKE WOULD BE THE CARROT TO BRING THIS IN.

IF IT IS AN INCREASE IN THE WAGE, WHAT IS THAT WAGE? WHAT DO Y'ALL BASE THAT ON? UH, I LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE NUANCE AND DIRECT FEEDBACK FROM STAFF RATHER THAN, THAN JUST MAKING UP AN ARBITRARY NUMBER UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE THAT REALLY DOESN'T MOVE THE NEEDLE.

THAT'S MY CONCERN COUNCIL.

AND SO, UM, MAYBE IT'S INCREASING THE SIGN-ON BONUS.

CAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES THAT THE SIGN-ON BONUS RATHER THAN THE HOURLY WAGE KIND OF PULLS PEOPLE IN.

I KNOW IT RAN OFF BROOKS WERE PAYING NEARLY $1,300 FOR PEOPLE TO SIGN ON, TO WORK AT FOR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.

WE'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME ISSUES OF LIFEGUARDS AND EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY THERE IS OUT THERE.

SO I JUST, WOULDN'T LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE NUANCED AND DIRECTED PLAN RATHER THAN JUST MAYBE COMING UP WITH AN ARBITRARY NUMBER UP HERE ON THE COUNCIL FOR AN HOURLY WAGE TO REALLY MIGHT NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

AND MAYBE JUST KIND OF LOOK LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE GENUINELY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, BUT WE'RE NOT WORKING SMART ABOUT IT.

THAT'S MY COMMENTS, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO I HAVE A QUESTION, MARIANA.

UM, HOW MANY LIFEGUARDS DO YOU GUYS USUALLY NEED? DAVID? I NEED FOUR TO FIVE IN THE POOL OF, FOR UP TO 30 SWIMMERS AT A TIME.

YES.

OKAY.

UM, BECAUSE I WAS THINKING MORE TOWARDS WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER IS, WHO SAID I'M FULL TIME NOW THE POOR, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS REASONABLE TO OPEN THE POOL YEAR ROUND.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY PROBABLY FROM APRIL TO OCTOBER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO NOW IF I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE TO BUDGET FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AT THE PARKS AND REC COULD USE IN FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS WHEN THE POOL IS CLOSED, I FEEL THAT THAT WILL GIVE STABILITY TO THE JOB, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS LACKING RIGHT NOW.

AND I FEEL THAT'S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY OPEN POSITIONS THAT PROBABLY ARE NOT BEING FILLED.

UM, I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE A PART-TIME JOB.

I MEAN, I KNOW SOME KIDS WILL WANT TO DO THAT, BUT HE DIDN'T PLANT CREEK POOL WAS HAVING A HARD TIME HIRING LIFEGUARDS.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO BRING TO A BUDGET SESSION TO TRY TO CONSIDER MAYBE HIRING FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES FOR PARKS AND RECS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ALLOCATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE POOL DURING CERTAIN MONTHS OF THE YEAR? OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO FIND YOU'RE RIGHT.

I, I SWIM REGULARLY AT THE YMCAS, A MEMBER THERE.

I TAKE MY KIDS THERE AS WELL.

AND I, AFTER THE $250 ANNOUNCEMENT AND THE INCREASE IN PAY, I WENT AND TRIED TO RECRUIT THEM A BUNCH OF, BUNCH OF, I WENT AND WAS LIKE CITY OF KYLE, $250 SIGNING BONUSES COME, WE'RE GOING TO GET

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THIS PARK OPEN.

AND THEY LAUGHED ME OUT OF THE ROOM.

THEY WERE NOT EVEN REMOTELY INTERESTED.

THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM, THEY WERE LIKE, NO, WE, WE DO WAY BETTER HERE.

AND WE HAVE IT'S AIR CONDITIONED INSIDE.

MY HUSBAND IS A SWIM COACHING.

HE WAS TRYING TO RECRUIT PEOPLE FOR MAYOR.

WE HAVE COMPLETED, STAFF'S COMPLETED A THOROUGH REVIEW OF LIKE ALL THE SURROUNDING CITIES.

WHAT DAYS ARE OPENING, HOW MANY LIFERS THEY HAVE, WHAT THEY'RE GETTING PAID.

UM, AND JUST TO COME A MAYOR PRO TEM RESULTS POINT, THE CITY OF NEW BRAUNFELS IS THE ONE THAT'S HIRING THE MOST LIFEGUARD RIGHT NOW, OPENING THE MOST POOLS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE TO TRAIN THEIR STAFF YEAR AROUND WITH THEIR INDOOR FACILITY.

UM, SO OF THE CITIES, I MEAN, OF COURSE ALL OF THEM ARE OPENING ABOUT A COUPLE OF DAYS A WEEK.

I'M PAYING ABOUT $15 AN HOUR, OF COURSE, AS ARE CITY STREP 18 AND 20.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE'RE FALLING RIGHT IN WITHIN THE MEDIAN.

BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OTHER CITY OTHER THAN NEW BRAUNFELS REALLY THAT'S OPENING ALL THEIR POOLS AND WE JUST HAVE ONE TO TRY AND OPEN, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT I HAD BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHEN I WAS COMING UP WITH THIS IDEA WAS THE AGE.

SO IF THE, IF WE CAN'T GET YOUNG PEOPLE IN THERE, HOW DO WE GET SOMEONE A LITTLE BIT OLDER IN THERE? AND THAT'S WITH A FULL-TIME POSITION, WHETHER WE DO THE POOL YEAR ROUND, OR WE USE THEM FOR SEVEN MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR AND THEN THE THREE MONTHS THAT ARE ACTUALLY CODE IN TEXAS AND REALLY NOT THAT CODE.

UM, WILL YOU REALLOCATE THOSE STAFF MEMBERS TO SOMETHING ELSE, SOME OTHER TYPE OF PROGRAMMING, BUT I THINK IF WE REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THIS, I THINK FULL-TIME MIGHT BE THE WAY WE HAVE TO GO AND TARGET A DIFFERENT AGE GROUP BECAUSE THE YOUNG GROUP THAT WE'VE TARGETED, CLAIRE IS NOT WORKING IN AUSTIN, MOVED THEIR PAY WAGES UP TO $22 AN HOUR FOR GUARDS AND AS STILL ARE SHORT, SEVERAL LIFEGUARDS, UH, SO THAT DIDN'T HELP THEM AT ALL.

I'M THINKING TARGETED A DIFFERENT AGE GROUP AND, AND JUST REALLY THINKING ABOUT KEEPING THAT POLE UP AND A LOT MORE, UH, CAUSE IT'S AN AMENITY FOR OUR TOWN.

AND I, I THINK IT'S A MINI THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO KEEP OPEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE USUALLY DO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

EVERYBODY'S HITTING ON VERY SPECIFIC POINTS PAY IT'S SUMMER.

UM, FULL-TIME UH, MAYOR GOES TO THE Y NEW, UH, NEW BRAUNFELS HAS INDOOR.

OKAY.

UH, AS FAR AS THE AGE, I THINK WE'VE HIT IT BECAUSE WE'VE OPENED IT UP TO EVERYBODY.

CORRECT.

I WAS ACTUALLY AT THE, IN A WAY WE'VE KIND OF OPENED IT UP TO A CERTAIN AGE GROUP CAUSE I WAS THERE WHEN WE'RE DOING THE, UH, THE WALKTHROUGH.

AND THEN YOU HAD YOUR JOB FAIR FOR THE LIFEGUARDS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP TWO PEOPLE, 4, 4, 4 PEOPLE.

SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT NOT JUST SALARY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY FOR HIRING A 25 AN HOUR, BUT MS. FLORES, YOU SAID IT'S RIGHT.

IT'S SUMMER.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S 105 OUT THERE AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE FINE HOURS, AND THEY'VE GOT KIDS.

SO YOU NEVER KNOW SOMEBODY LIKE, I DON'T WANT THAT LIABILITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO THIS JOB AND BEING THERE ALL DAY LONG IN THAT WORKING CONDITIONS.

CAUSE YOU GOT TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY SALARIES, WHICH ALSO LOOK AT THE WORKING CONDITIONS ITSELF, UH, COOK BY A BIG FACTOR.

LOT OF THESE PLACES I THINK THAT ARE DOING WELL, HAVE INDOOR POOLS, CORRECT.

OR JUST THE ENVIRONMENT ITSELF.

SO I DO COMMEND YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TRYING TO RECRUIT, UH, AS MANY LIFEGUARDS, DO WE REALLY KNOW THE ANSWER? IS IT BECAUSE THE KIDS OR ADULTS JUST DON'T WANT TO COME OUT AND BE LIVE CARDS OR GET THAT TRAINING AND BE OUT THERE ALL DAY LONG? OR WHAT IS IT ON THAT END? SO IT'S REALLY FOR US.

I MEAN, I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO IS JUST SEEING WHO'S AVAILABLE TO WANT TO COME AND BE LIFE CARDS, I GUESS, ON THAT END.

BUT, UH, I THINK WE CONTINUE TO, TO JUST SAY, WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THE SALARY.

WE STILL MIGHT BE IN THE SAME BOAT.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO MATCH AUSTIN, BUT WILL WE GET THOSE RECRUITS? WILL WE GET THOSE APPLICANTS TO WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THE POOL OPEN AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT HOURS? BECAUSE THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT IS HOT AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO CLOSE IT AFTER A WALK CAUSE IT BECOMES A DANGER FOR THE CHILDREN, RIGHT? YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO HAVE INTER INTERMEDIATE RECESS ON OCCASION.

SO I THINK WE'RE JUST KIND OF IN THE SAME SPOT AS, AS EVERYBODY ELSE AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN RECRUIT MORE LIFEGUARDS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE KEEP THEM AS WELL IN THIS MONEY? THE IS MONEY, THE REAL ISSUE? WELL, IT'S DEFINITELY AN INDUSTRY RIDE ISSUE AND NOT JUST THE AQUATICS SINCE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL JOBS AND DIFFERENT PROFESSIONS, BUT TO YOUR ALL'S POINT, WE DID LIKE, OH, WELL MAYBE WE'RE TARGETING THE WRONG GROUP.

NOW LET'S GET THESE SCHOOL TEACHERS THAT ARE OFF OR,

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YOU KNOW, UM, A LOT OF HOMESCHOOL MOMS GO OUT THERE.

UM, SO WE'VE TRIED TO SPREAD THE WORD AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT THE HIRING EVENT WAS OPEN TO EVERYONE AND WE DO MARKET THE JOB VACANCIES TO ALL AGES.

WE DON'T JUST TARGET ONE GROUP.

AND CERTAINLY, I HOPE Y'ALL KNOW IN MY COMMENTS, I WAS ALLUDING THAT YOU ALL TARGETED A CERTAIN GROUP.

I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETIMES THE MINDSET THAT WE HAVE OF WHAT THAT LIFEGUARD LOOKS LIKE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, UH, THE SANDLOT LIFEGUARD YOU KEPT GOING OR WHATEVER.

ANYWAY, UH, BUT I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UH, BRUCE, I REMEMBER, YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE YOU MOVED UP FOR A REASON.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ENLIGHTEN US WITH? I KNOW YOU CAME FROM ANOTHER CITY AS WELL.

UH, PERHAPS THERE'S SOMETHING YOU COULD ADD TO THE DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, UM, MAYOR COUNCIL, BROOKE COLLINS, UM, FOR THE RECORD, UM, PREVIOUSLY WORKING WITH ROUND ROCK, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE TO GET LIFEGUARDS.

UM, SO, UH, WE'VE DONE PROMOTING IN SCHOOLS, GO INTO SCHOOLS DURING THEIR LUNCHTIME, TRYING TO FIND LIFEGUARDS AND IT'S JUST BEEN A STRUGGLE THROUGHOUT.

SO, UM, AND ALL HONESTY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE TRIED, WE'VE TRIED REALLY HARD TO RECRUIT AND UM, I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE NO MATTER WHAT POOL YOU HAVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD OTHER THAN WHAT MARIANA HAS ALREADY SAID.

SO, NO, I APPRECIATE IT.

IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE UNIQUE THING WE HAVE WHEN WE GET FOLKS FROM OTHER CITIES, THEY CAN PERHAPS SHINE A LIGHT ON DIFFERENT THINGS.

EVEN YOU RE REITERATING WHAT WE MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS HELPFUL.

SO THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP, BRO.

OKAY.

SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD DISCUSSION.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROPOSAL ABOUT HOW TO, IS THERE ANYTHING ACTIONABLE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, ANY ACTION THAT WE WANT TO TAKE TO TRY TO HAVE AN IMPACT THIS SUMMER ON HELPING GET LIFEGUARDS? CAUSE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE QUESTION CUSTOMER PARTIES.

IS THERE ANY WAY THEN MAYBE WE CAN START WITH AN $18 AN HOUR NOW, AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS DURING BUDGET SEASON ABOUT HIRING FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES TO BE ADDED TO FOR NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT JUMP.

WELL, I JUST WOULD THINK THAT IF WE'VE ALREADY BEEN LOSING DAYS, THAT'S WAGES THAT WE ARE SAVING.

SO IF WE APPLIED THOSE SAVED WAGES TO THE REMAINDER OF THE SUMMER, WE COULD PROBABLY STILL MANAGE OR A SIGNING BONUS INCREASE THE SIGNING BONUS.

YEAH.

SOME FLASHY AND SPLASHY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO RUN THE NUMBERS AGAIN BECAUSE WHEN WE RAN IT OVER THE WEEKEND, UH, WITH AS MANY HOURS, WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THE 10 PEOPLE THAT WE DO HAVE AND ALREADY INCREASE THEM $3 H A PIECE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE BUDGETED TO REALLY PAY MUCH MORE.

SO WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THE NUMBERS, BUT WE CAN DO THAT AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN OFFER MORE.

SO WE'RE GOING TOWARDS THE WAGES OR THE SIGN-ON BONUS.

CAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

OH, IT'S I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I THINK WE'VE GOT TO START LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT GROUNDS.

UM, CAUSE LIKE I WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED, AUSTIN WENT UP TO 22 AND STILL CAME, FILL THOSE POSITIONS.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

I THINK IT'S TRYING TO FIND A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.

THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF LEAN TOWARDS THE SIGN-ON BONUS.

AND I LIKE HOW WE DO IT IS THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT UP FRONT AND THEN IT'S THE OTHER HALF ON THE BACK END AND MAKE SURE YOU KIND OF COMPLETE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, RIGHT.

BECAUSE MONEY IN HAND IS THAT BIRD IS WORTH MORE.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE SIGNING BONUS IS.

THE HOURLY WAGE YOU HAVE THERE.

I ACTUALLY WORKED AT, AND I KNOW THE INTENTION IS TO HAVE THEM WORK, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE STRONGER CARROT TO ME IS THE SIGN-ON BONUS BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, HALF A 50 NOW MAYBE IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, ONE 50 AND THEN ANOTHER COACH TO 200 AND YOU FINISHED, MAYBE WE BUMPED THAT UP TO 300.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT FOR ME.

AND IF I'M JUST GOING BACK TO MY MINDSET BACK THEN I'D BE MORE INCLINED FOR THE SIGN-ON BONUS.

THEN I WOULD PROBABLY WANT THE HOURLY WAGE.

THE OTHER DILEMMA WE'RE FACING IS AVAILABILITY.

LIKE, YES, WE DO HAVE 10 LIFEGUARDS, BUT THEIR AVAILABILITY IS KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO WE'RE HAVING TO OPEN THE POLL BASED ON WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE AND WELL, THAT'D BE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL JOBS MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY ARE THE YOUNGER POPULATION THAT BAND CAMPS, SPORTS CAMPS, SUCH A CURRICULAR FAMILY, VACATIONS, A FEW HAVE SECOND JOBS.

AND THEN A COUPLE OF COLLEGE KIDS, UM, ARE DOING THEIR INTERNSHIPS.

YEAH.

COULD WE PERHAPS MAYBE AGREE ON ONE OF THE

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OTHER AND THEN AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, I'D OBVIOUSLY THAT'S TWO WEEKS AND TIME, BUT MAYBE GET A FEEDBACK FROM STAFF ON WHATEVER WE INCORPORATED.

IF THAT'S MOVING THE NEEDLE AT ALL AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN PIVOT.

I, I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US TO TRY TO GET THE POOL.

I AGREE BECAUSE IF ANYTHING, IT COULD BE SET THE PARAMETER FOR NEXT SEASON.

MY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION, THE DIRECTION IS TO BRING BACK IN A PLAN AND SET AN EXPECTATION FOR WHAT WE WANT.

SO BUDGETING FOR OUTCOMES, WHICH IS WHERE IF WE JUST THROW ANOTHER NUMBER AT IT AND STAFF COMES BACK AND SAYS, DIDN'T WORK, OKAY, THEN WE'RE NOT REALLY PROVIDING THE LEADERSHIP.

THE LEADERSHIP IS WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION.

OUR POOL NEEDS TO BE OPENED THIS MANY HOURS.

YOU TELL US WHAT TO DO TO GET THERE AND THEN WE'LL HOLD YOU TO THAT STANDARD.

THAT WOULD BE MY, THAT'D BE MY PREFERENCE FOR HOW TO HANDLE IT.

AND THEN THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX IS NOT ON US.

IT'S ON THE STAFF AT THAT POINT, FEEL LIKE SCOTT'S BURNING SICK.

I DID.

I JUST WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, STAFF'S GONNA OPEN THE POOL AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE TIME FROM OTHER DUTIES THAT THEY NEED TO BE AT TO OPEN THE POLL.

AND REALLY IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WANT TO FILL THOSE ROLES RIGHT NOW.

AND TO PUT THAT ON STAFF, THAT'S TOUGH, YOU KNOW, ANY PERSON.

YEAH.

BUT USUALLY TYPICALLY IN THE PAST IT WAS YOUNG PEOPLE THAT FILLED THOSE ROLES.

I HAD BREAKFAST, I GOT YOUR, BUT IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

INSTEAD OF JUST OPENING FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, LET'S TRY AND OPEN AS MANY DAYS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

SIX DAYS A WEEK, ONLY A COUPLE HOURS EACH DAY.

BUT LIKE SHE JUST SAYING, IT'S VERY HARD BASED ON THEIR AVAILABILITY, UM, TO EVEN TRY TO DO LIKE A MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY OR MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, AND THAT'S WHY THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND SATURDAY OR CHOSEN.

SO, I MEAN, WE'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OPTIONS, BUT UM, AND IF WE WERE FULLY STAFFED WITH LIFEGUARDS, WHICH IS A SEASONAL POSITION, IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY FROM WHAT STAFF WOULD BE DOING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THAT POINT.

IT'S JUST, WE'RE MISSING THE SEASONAL PARTS OF IT.

SO ALL STAFF IS DOING IS TO THE MARRIAGE POINT IS BRAIN BACK THERE, THEY'RE THE ONES THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX TO BRING BACK HOW WE CAN HELP THEM GET TO OUR OUTCOME THAT WE WANT.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT EXPLANATION.

THE EXPLANATION I HEARD WAS, WELL, LET'S COME BACK WITH THE HOURS THAT WE WANT AND MAKE SURE STAFF KNOWS THE EXPECTATIONS.

SO I FELT LIKE WE'RE THROWING IT ON STAFF TO BE SURE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE OPEN THIS MANY HOURS.

AND THAT'S WHAT SCARED ME CAUSE YEAH, WELL THAT, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.

SO YOU ARE CORRECT.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BUDGETING FOR OUTCOMES IS INTENDED TO BE WHERE YOU SIT, WHAT YOU KNOW THEY EXPECT AND I, IT'S FINE NOT TO DO IT.

I'M JUST THAT I DON'T EXPECT FOLKS TO WANT TO NECESSARILY DO THAT, BUT THAT'S WHY WE DON'T BUDGET FOR OUTCOMES, BUT WE JUST PUT DOLLARS TOWARDS THINGS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT IF IT'S A PRIORITY OF COUNCIL FOR THE POOL TO BE OPEN FOR THE RESIDENTS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, THEN WE SHOULD SAY, IF WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THEN WE SHOULD SET THAT AS OUR EXPECTATION.

AND THEN WHATEVER IS REQUIRED IS REQUIRED TO MAKE SACRIFICES AND OTHER AREAS IS NECESSARY AND HOLD THAT LINE.

BUT THAT'S JUST, THAT'S SORT OF MY, UH, MY PHILOSOPHY FOR ACHIEVING OUTCOMES RELATED TO LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT WITH SEASONAL POOL WAGES, BUT I DO AGREE 1820 $2 AN HOUR.

IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE DON'T HAVE AN EXPECTATION FOR, UH, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THAT, IT'S UNLIKELY TO MAKE A DEBT, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO CASPER FOR SCALE.

THANK YOU.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO BRING THE SLATE, THIS SLATE INTO THE SEASON.

I, I HAD NO IDEA THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE A POOL LIKE FULL TIME NORMAL UNTIL PROBABLY A COUPLE OF, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I GUESS I DID NOT, NOT THAT YOU DIDN'T TELL ME.

I JUST, I GUESS I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I KNEW THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE THE PULL OPEN REGULAR HOURS ALL THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.

AND SO I KNOW THERE WAS SOME ISSUES AS FAR AS SUPPORT RUNNING, BEING UP AND RUNNING.

UM, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK IS THAT I SPRUNG THIS ON YOU AT THE LAST MINUTE.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE GOTTEN IN FRONT OF THIS BEFORE SUMMER EVEN STARTED.

UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN OPEN SINCE 2019 IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, 2020 IN THE PANDEMIC.

IT WAS CLOSED AND YEAH, WE HAD REGULAR HOURS OPERATION LAST YEAR, BUT BECAUSE I THINK, UM, MAYBE MANY PEOPLE WERE HESITANT TO COME OUT STILL BECAUSE OF COVID IT DIDN'T GET USED AS MUCH WHEN IT WAS OPEN REGULAR HOURS LAST YEAR, THERE'S STILL STORM DAMAGED, MAJORITY OF IT.

RIGHT.

AND THEY OPENED LATE.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS OPENING LATER.

SO YEAH, IT'S JUST, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE FIREWORKS SHOW.

IT JUST W IT'S LIKE WE'RE SNAKE BIT GONE ON OUR POOL FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

NO BLAME.

YOU JUST, JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO THROW THE KITCHEN SINK AT IT TO GET IT FIXED.

BUT, UM, MY THOUGHTS, SCOTT, YOU'RE JUST HOLDING THAT

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MICROPHONE, SAY CHALLENGE, EVERYBODY'S GO.

AND THEN WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

WE GOT IT.

I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE YOUR THINKING.

SO IS A POOL NECESSARY OUTDOOR POOL.

AND YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE RUSH TO THE ANSWER THAT MANY CITIES ARE REMOVING THEIR POOLS AND DOING SPLASH PADS INSTEAD, NOW WE HAVE WITHIN 45 MINUTES, THE WORLD'S LARGEST OUTDOOR WATER PARK AND INDOOR WATER PARK, NORTH AND SOUTH.

WE ALSO HAVE OTHER OPTIONS TYPE IN TEXAS, ET CETERA.

AND THEN MOST OF OUR HOS HAVE POOLS.

SO I DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND I SEE A DOZEN OR MORE HOA POOLS FULL DURING THE SUMMER WITHOUT LIFEGUARDS.

WHAT I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE WE ARE IN CRAZY TIMES RIGHT NOW, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A CRAZY SOLUTION, ADDING 15 NEW STAFF MEMBERS THAT WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FILL TO YOUR 0.4 OR ADDING ADDITIONAL WAGES TO IT, WHICH MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE SOLUTION.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SOLUTIONS AROUND, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE IMTA, IT'S JUST A LOT OF THINGS I GO BACK TO JUST BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS PROBLEM THAT SEEMS TO BE OVER AND OVER AND OVER CITIES ARE JUST CHANGING THE WAY THEY LOOK AT WATER SPORTS IN GENERAL, AND SAYING A SPLASH PAD COULD BE THE SOLUTION RATHER THAN A SWIMMING POOL.

UM, LOT CHEAPER TOO.

SO, SO I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT NO, I THINK THE FOOD IS REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SWIMMING POOLS AND DON'T HAVE THE, TO GO AND JOIN THE Y YMCA.

THERE, WE DO HAVE A SEGMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT AREN'T DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES.

SO, SO ON THAT, WOULD IT BE CHEAPER THAN TO PROVIDE A VOUCHER OR PASS FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES TO OTHER POOLS? WELL, I JUST THINK TO GO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, IF WE WANTED TO PULL IT TO BE OPEN AND FULLY STAFFED, WE COULD SOLVE THAT PROBLEM IMMEDIATELY.

ALL WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS TELL OTHER STAFF MEMBERS THAT THEY MUST, AS A PART OF THEIR DUTIES, GO GET CERTIFIED AND BE, AND ROTATE IN.

AND WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THE POINT I'M MAKING IS THAT IT IS A MATTER OF COMMITMENT AND PRIORITY FOR US TO DETERMINE IN THE SEAT THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE, THE OUTCOME.

WE JUST HAVE TO WANT TO BAD ENOUGH.

SO WHEN I'M SAYING, COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND HOLD TO THAT SOLUTION, IF WE SAY IT'S A PRIORITY, WE CAN DO IT.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF SETTING THAT EXPECTATION.

THAT'S MY, AND I WOULD, I WOULD DO ANYTHING THIS COUNCIL WANTED TO SUPPORT AS FAR AS MAKING THAT HAPPEN, BECAUSE I FUNDAMENTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID, MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT IT IS A PRIORITY AND WE SHOULD GET IT OPEN.

UH, AND, UH, IT JUST, MY THOUGHTS, CAN WE VOLUNTEER? THERE YOU GO.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A SET OF SEVEN, SEVEN OF US RIGHT HERE.

IF WE CAN, WHERE ARE WE AT? I'VE CONSIDERED, I TOLD BROOKE BOTH SHE AND I CAN GET AN, A LIFEGUARD CHAIR.

WE CAN ONLY HAVE 30 PEOPLE ON THE POOL, BUT AFTER 15 MINUTES, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A BREAK BECAUSE WE LEGALLY HAVE TO ROTATE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU NEED THE FOUR TO FIVE AGAIN.

YEAH.

WHAT DO WE DO? I MEAN, FOR, I, FOR ME, I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT.

I LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION THAT DOES NOT HAVE A POOL.

AND IF I TRY TO SNEAK INTO THE OAK POOL, THEY'RE GOING TO KICK ME OUT.

AND SO I CAN'T DO THAT.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND SO AS MUCH AS, YEAH, WE COULD JUST GIVE THEM A SPLASH PAD OR WHATEVER, THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, SOMEHOW WE CAN NOT FALL.

YOU CAN'T SWIM LAPS IN A, IN A SPLASH PAD.

AND SO, UM, YOU CAN TRY, BUT, UM, AGAIN, I THINK PART OF SUMMER IS SWIMMING AND AS PART OF YOUR CHILDHOOD AND THAT'S PART OF MAKING MEMORIES AND THIS PART OF A LOT OF CITIES, I'M NOT AWARE OF MANY SEAS THAT DON'T HAVE EITHER AN INDOOR OR AN OUTDOOR, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SOLUTION.

UM, WE WILL RACK OUR BRAINS TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT SO I CAN, I, CAN I MAKE THEM CRAZY MOTION? UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO FULLY STAFF THE POOL AND PRESENT THAT PLAN AT THE NEXT COUNCIL.

SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.

SECOND BY CUSTOMER TOBY ASSIST THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

I RECOGNIZE THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE.

UM, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.

SO I'M GOOD WITH IT.

I'M GOING TO SAY YES, BUT JUST KNOW THAT STAFF LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP THE SEVEN OF US, LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND DON'T FEEL THAT WE'RE GONNA, UH, THINK LESS OF Y'ALL.

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE AND ALLOW US TO HELP YOU AS WELL IN THAT PROCESS.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP THAT HAPPEN? AND THAT'S WHAT THE CHALLENGE IS RIGHT NOW.

CAN I GET CLARIFICATION? SO I THINK I WENT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

SO RIGHT NOW THE POOL IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TWO HOUR, TWO DAYS A WEEK ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS.

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SO THE PLAN IS TO BE OPEN.

HOW MANY DAYS, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER THE POOL BEING FULLY OPEN AT IDEAL LEVELS? HOW MANY HOURS A WEEK? YOU SAID FIVE TO SIX HOURS A DAY, SIX DAYS A WEEK.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIRECTION TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH THAT OBJECTIVE AND, AND BRING, BRING THAT BACK.

IT'S A CHALLENGE.

I MEAN, I KNOW SEVERAL, MAYBE A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THE CURRENT STAFF, GETTING THE CHAIRS.

IT'S ME GETTING THE CHAIR IS A BRICK GETTING INTO THE CHAIR.

UM, I TAKE SOME TIME AND PROCESS IT.

SO SEE WHAT YOU COULD COME UP WITH, GET THIS NEEDS TO BE UP AND DOWN.

WE'RE GIVING THAT DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER.

SEE ANDREW NEEDS TO TAKE THAT DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP AGENDA

[36.  Grand Junction Trip Recap. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member; Dex Ellison, Council Member; and Robert Rizo, Mayor Pro Tem]

ITEM 36 GRAND JUNCTION RECAP, CUSTOMER PARTIALLY ELLISON, AND MAY PRETEND ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE LEAD.

OKAY, I'LL GO.

ALRIGHT, BUT TRUST ME, I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR YOU ALL.

CAUSE I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS.

UM, SO JUST TO GIVE THE IDEA HERE.

SO, UH, COMES MEMBERS, UH, PARSLEY, RIZZO AND MYSELF ALONG WITH, UH, MR. SELLERS, MR. HENDRICKS, UH, MICHAEL KAUFMAN FROM OUR LIBRARY.

UH, AND IS THAT IT SIX? YEAH, IT WAS SIX OF US, UH, WENT TO GRAND JUNCTION, UH, TO, UH, LOOK AT THE VIBRANT DOWNTOWN, WELL THE VIBRANT ART SCENE AND THE IMPRESSIVE DOWNTOWN.

I WANT TO CHANGE THAT UP.

THERE'S A REASON WHY I'M TAKING BACK THE VIBRANT ON THE DOWNTOWN.

WE'LL GET TO THAT, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS DOWNTOWN.

AND THE ART SCENE IS JUST MIND BLOWING WHAT THEY HAVE THERE AND THEIR ARTS COMMISSION IS INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TOOK, UH, MR. KAUFMAN FROM OUR LIBRARY BECAUSE HE IS GOING TO BE OVERSEEING OUR ARTS COMMISSION AS WELL AS WE, AS A COUNCIL HAVE MADE IT A PRIORITY TO REVITALIZE OUR DOWNTOWN, MAKE IT A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY PLACE, A COMMUNITY FRIENDLY PLACE, A FAMILY-FRIENDLY PLACE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO WE LEARNED A LOT, UH, ON THIS TRIP, UH, AND I'M GOING TO CERTAINLY OPEN IT UP TO MY COLLEAGUES AND STAFF TO GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, UM, THAT WE EXPERIENCED, UH, DARREN GRAND JUNCTION.

AND, UM, I'VE ALREADY KIND OF GIVEN A GOOD INTRODUCTION.

SO I'M GOING TO OPEN UP TO THE REST OF THE FOLKS THAT WENT THERE AND LET THEM GIVE THEIR COMMENTS.

AND I'LL JUST KIND OF SIT IN THE BACK AND FILL UP ANY GAPS.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND ME GOING NEXT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT SOME OF THE CREATIVE IDEAS THAT THEY USED IN THEIR STREETSCAPING WAS TO SLOW DOWN SOME OF THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA.

UM, AND IT WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE ON HOW THEY DID IT WITH CURVATURE STREETS, BUT THE WAY THEY DID IT WAS IN A WAY THAT IT HIGHLIGHTED THE DOWNTOWN AS WELL.

IT ENHANCED IT AND THAT'S WITH, UH, ALL THEIR FLOWERBEDS AND ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANNINGS BEEN SMART ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PLANTS ARE WE'RE USING STUFF THAT WAS FRIENDLY TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS NATIVE TO THE AREA AS WELL.

UM, SOMETHING THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME WAS HOW INVITING IT WAS IN THE AREA AND HOW CREATIVE THEY WERE, UH, EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE THEY REDUCE SOME OF THE PARKING LOTS AND THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL MEMBER ELLS, AND ALL THOSE THINGS ABOUT IS, UH, REDUCING SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES IN DOWNTOWN BEING CREATIVE WITH IT.

AND I ACTUALLY NOW SEE WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND GIVING YOURSELF MORE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD CONGREGATE, UH, MORE OUTDOOR DINING, MORE, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKED, UH, WHEN WE WERE DOWN THERE IS THAT THEY, THEY HAD THESE STATIONS WHERE YOU COULD GO AND GET ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR CITY AND ALL THE EVENTS THAT WERE GOING ON.

UH, THE PLACES TO EAT A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING THEY EVEN HAD.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PAID STAFF MEMBER THAT GO, UH, SITS OUT THERE IN THE CORNER OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE DISTRICTS AND GIVES OUT INFORMATION AND GIVES OUT, UM, VERBAL INFORMATION AS WELL, NOT JUST LITERATURE.

AND HE WAS, HE WENT FROM EVERYTHING FROM, UH, DINING TO, UH, UH, THINGS TO DO THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO IT WAS PRETTY AWESOME, BUT SOMETHING THAT I REALLY ENJOYED ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN WAS, UH, HOW IT REALLY ENHANCED THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.

THE LOCAL BUSINESSES HAD A BUY INTO IT, NOT JUST WITH THE AESTHETICS OF THE STREET, BUT ALSO WITH THE PROGRAMMING, WHICH WAS THE, UH, THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT ALL THE PUBLIC ART THAT WAS DISPLAYED IN THE CITY? SOMETHING THAT THEY DID THAT WAS VERY CREATIVE, WAS TO GET LOCAL ARTISTS, TO BRING OUT THEIR PIECES AND DISPLAY THEM AND EVEN HAVE THE OPTION TO SELL THEM, UM, UH, THROUGH THAT DISPLAY.

SO THAT WAY THE CITY WAS ABLE

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TO RE UM, TO CHANGE OUT ART PERIODICALS WITHOUT HAVING TO PURCHASE ART, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY CREATIVE.

AND IT GAVE, UH, AN ARTIST SOMEWHERE, NOT JUST A LOCAL ARTIST TO ACTUALLY HAVE PIECES FROM ARTISTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD COME OUT AND DISPLAY THEIR ART AND THE SEA WASN'T HAVING TO PURCHASE THESE PIECES TO, UH, YOU KNOW, DISPLAY ART IN YOUR AREA.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY SMART.

UM, SOMETHING ELSE THAT I LIKE TOOK AWAY FROM THE LIBRARY WAS THEIR PROGRAMMING.

UH, THE LIBRARY IN THE CITY WAS, HAD SOME REALLY AMAZING PROGRAMMING AND IT KINDA GAVE US A, JUST A, WHAT WEIRD, PROBABLY GOING TO NEED THE NEAR FUTURE HERE IN KYLE, AND THAT'S A LARGER LIBRARY, BUT IT ALSO GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE IN A LIBRARY THAT CAN SUSTAIN A GROWING CITY, THE SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED NOT TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO THE BUSINESSES.

UH, THEY, THEY WERE DOING A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING OUT, UH, A VERY, UH, EDUCATED, UM, WORKFORCE, NOT ONLY EDUCATION AND, UH, SPANISH AND ENGLISH, BUT ALSO GDS ALSO HELPING THEM IN ALL ASPECTS OF THEIR LIVES.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY COOL.

THEY HAD DIFFERENT AREAS FOR, UH, IN THE LIBRARY AS WELL, MAKING A VERY, UH, RECEPTIVE TOWARDS TEENAGERS IN ONE AREA TO YOUNGER KIDS IN ANOTHER AREA, AND THEN ADULTS.

SO THEY, THEY FOCUSED ON ALL THREE AGE GROUPS.

IT WAS SOMETHING I REALLY ENJOYED THE TOUR OF THE LIBRARY WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE.

AND I THINK OUR LIBRARY STAFF AS WELL, UH, UH, MICHAEL LEARNED A LOT FROM THERE AS WELL.

AND I THINK HE'S LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS HERE, BUT, UH, I'LL GIVE COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY A LITTLE TIME TO CHAIR AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE A PRIORITY BEING ON COUNCIL, IT'S A DOWNTOWN IN REVEL, A REMODELING OF THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND SO GOING TO GRAND JUNCTION REALLY GAVE ME A LOT OF IDEAS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUGHT MY EYE WAS SAID, THERE ARE NO FRANCHISE BUSINESSES IN THERE.

EVERYTHING IS SMALL BUSINESSES.

UM, A LOT OF OUR GALLERIES, UM, MOM AND POP RESTAURANTS.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THAT RESIDENTS ARE CRAVING HERE IN KYLE.

UH, THE ART IN THE CORNER WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE.

UM, IT'S LIKE EVERY CORNER YOU WALK, THERE IS A PIECE OF ART WITH HIS STORY ON IT.

SO YOU'RE BASICALLY LEARNING AS YOU WALK.

UM, THE WHY SIDE WALKS WERE PHENOMENAL.

UM, THE CONCEPT THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE DOWNTOWN THE STREET, IT WAS VERY INTERESTING, NOT REALLY SURE THAT THAT WILL WORK IN KYLE HAVING IN FRONT OF US, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER NOW WHAT THIS REALLY, UM, MADE ME SEES THAT THEY HAVE A DOWNTOWN BOARD.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SUCH A THING IN KYLE.

UM, SO THEY HAVE A, UH, MERCHANT ASSOCIATION AND A DOWNTOWN BOARD SIMILAR TO THE NATIONAL MAIN STREET PROGRAM, BUT THEY'RE NOT NATIONAL MAIN STREET, WHICH WAS A GREAT DISTINCTION THAT THEY MADE.

UH, SO WE DO NOT HAVE A BOARD HERE.

WE, WE COULD COME UP WITH ONE THAT'S, SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BRING UP TO COUNCIL, UM, IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS OR SO HOW CAN WE CREATE? CAUSE ALL OF THESE IDEAS WOULD GET FROM, FROM THIS TRIP THAT WE JUST TOOK.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING THOSE IDEAS AND KYLE AND I JUST LEAVE IT AS LIKE WE WENT, WE VISITED, WE LOVE IT.

HOW CAN WE JUST BRING THAT TO THE CITY? UM, ANOTHER THING THAT REALLY, REALLY STRUCK ME WAS THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON TOP OF BUSINESSES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT ALLOWS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESSES TO STAY OPEN PAST 9:00 PM.

SO, UM, ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER.

SO JUST GETTING ALL OF THIS IDEAS OF HOW GREAT GRAND JUNCTION HAS DONE IT WITH OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.

UM, ALSO WITH THE LIBRARY, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH MAYBE A BOAR FOR DOWNTOWN OR A TASKFORCE FOR THE DEVELOPING OF THE DOWNTOWN.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COMING OUT FROM, FROM COUNCIL.

ONE THING THAT I WOULD ADD ON TO THAT IS THERE, THEIR BOARD IN PARTICULAR, THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS, IS THE BOARD OF WHAT'S CALLED THE DDA OR THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.

SO THEY HAVE A SEPARATE TAX FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND KNOW THAT MERCHANTS HAVE TO VOTE THEMSELVES INTO THE DDA.

AND USUALLY IT'S CREATED WHEN THERE'S SOME SORT OF BLIGHT, UH, THEY CAN SEIZE ET CETERA, OR WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED SOME ENHANCEMENT.

UH, SO THEY HAVE, WHAT'S CALLED A DDA.

THEY ALSO HAVE A BID, WHICH IS A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND THEN THEY HAVE A MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION.

SO THERE ARE THREE KIND OF

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DIFFERENT GROUPS ALL MEANT TO HELP THE DOWNTOWN.

I'M GUESSING HERE.

OUR DOWNTOWN IS, UH, FIRST OF ALL, SOMEWHAT LIMITED IN GEOGRAPHY.

TWO DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF, UH, UNDERLYING PROPERTY TAX PAYERS.

UH, SO A DDA, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF WHAT KIND OF OUR EQUIVALENT WILL BE PAID, UH, MAY NOT FLY AT FIRST, BUT A MERCHANT ASSOCIATION COULD, COULD BE ASSEMBLED PRETTY QUICKLY WITH, UH, DOWNTOWN MERCHANTS.

SO I JUST WANT TO ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I'D CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.

I THINK HE GAVE A REALLY STRONG FEEDBACK ON WHAT THAT IS, AND SIR, THAT I WANT TO BRING IN JERRY IF HE HAS ANY COMMENTS AS WELL.

BUT ONE THING JUST GENERALLY ON THESE TRIPS, IF COUNTS, IF WE'RE TAKING THESE AND THE IDEA IS NOT TO COME BACK TO IMPLEMENT THINGS, WHETHER THAT WE'VE LEARNED THAT WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THAT WE, OR A MIRROR OR SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT WE LEARNED, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER THING ABOUT THESE TRIPS IS WE LEARN THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GET AWAY FROM.

UH, AND THE CHALLENGES.

I MEAN THE, THE TRIP TO FLORIDA, WE LEARNED ABOUT THE AND TURNING THEM INTO REAL OPERATION CENTERS.

UH, PEACHTREE CITY, THE VIBE TRAIL HAS COME FROM THAT, UH, CARAMEL THERE'S BEEN UMPTEEN, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FROM THAT.

SO I WANT TO JUST BE CLEAR THAT IS THE GOAL WITH THESE AND THAT IS WHY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THEM.

UH, BUT SECONDLY, ONE THING I THINK WE LEARNED, UH, AND WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAD A REALLY GREAT RECAP MEETING.

I THINK THERE WAS THURSDAY EVENING.

WE ALL KIND OF SAT AROUND AND TALKED ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF DIFFERENT THINGS, WHETHER THAT'S ON STREET PARKING, UH, THEY HAVE A CHALLENGE THERE.

AND THE REASON WHY I TOOK BACK MY VIBRANT COMMENT ON DOWNTOWN IS IT'S NOT REALLY THAT VIBRANT AS FAR AS A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC.

NOW THERE'S SOME GREAT STORES AND I COULD HAVE SPENT TWO DAYS DOWN THERE AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER PARCEL.

THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY DOWN, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL NEAR THEIR DOWNTOWN.

IT IS A HUGE BUSINESS DISTRICT.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE EVENING TRAFFIC, THE FOOT TRAFFIC, AND EVEN THE DAYTIME FOOT TRAFFIC ONLY HAPPENS WHEN IT'S THE BREAKFAST AND LUNCHTIME.

THERE WERE TIMES WHERE WE WERE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST GROUP ON THIS BEAUTIFUL DOWNTOWN STREETSCAPE THAT SERPENTINE THROUGH THE AREA, CARS WERE VERY SLOW.

WE GOT PAST IT, EVERY TYPE OF STREET WE'D NEVER WALKED, BUT WE GOT BACK ACROSS THE STREETS.

THERE WAS THE LANDSCAPING AND THE STREETSCAPE WAS ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.

IT WAS INCREDIBLE.

UH, THERE WERE SOME THINGS WE LEARNED ABOUT TRULY THE FULL FOOTPRINT OF THE STREETSCAPE.

THERE WERE PLACES THAT WERE MUCH LARGER AND WIDER WITH PLAY AREAS FOR CHILDREN, OUTDOOR DINING, LARGE LANDSCAPING AREAS, ART, ART, SCULPTURES, INTERACTIVE PIECES.

UH, BUT THEN THERE WERE SOME AREAS WHERE IT WASN'T AS CONDUCIVE TO WALKING.

AND WE, AS THE SIX OF US WERE HAD SEVEN OF US WITH OUR TOUR GUIDE, IT KINDA GOT PACKED.

UH, SO THERE SOME PROS AND CONS, WE CERTAINLY LEARNED FROM THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR DOWNTOWN, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP THE LIBRARY.

I COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT WAS ANOTHER, THE THIRD PRONG OF THE TRIP.

UM, AND SOME OPPORTUNITIES WITH THAT AS WELL.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE THOUGH.

THEY HAVE COUNTY FUNDING, THERE'S A SEPARATE FUNDING, UH, PORTION THAT DOES THAT AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED OR OTHER AVENUES THAT THEY JUST HAVE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE.

AND EVEN IF WE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT WE, OUR STATE, WHATEVER DOESN'T ALLOW FOR IT.

SO I JUST WANT TO JUST KIND OF MAKE THOSE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, THAT I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS AS WE ARE BUILDING OUT OUR STREETSCAPE AND LOOKING TO TAKE THAT AS WELL.

UH, THAT IS SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO GIVE DIRECTION ON.

DO WE WANT TO KEEP IT JUST LINEAR OR DO WE WANT A SERPENTINE, UH, TYPE LANDSCAPING? WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE IN THAT? WHAT IS, WHAT IS IMPORTANT IN THAT? SO I THINK THAT HAPPENS OVER, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY JUST ONCE WE COME BACK IN SOME INITIAL DIRECTION, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS AND I WAS PRESSING THAT STAFF THERE ABOUT IT, AND YOU ALL HEARD ME, UH, THE FUNDING THAT THEY GIVE THEIR ARTS COMMISSION, BECAUSE WE'RE NOW IN OUR BUDGET SEASON.

I SAID, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS.

THIS IS THE TIME TO IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS.

SO THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT WE IMPLEMENT.

NOW, THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS WE IMPLEMENT OVER THE BUDGET WORKSHOP SEASON.

THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT GET IMPLEMENTED LATER ON.

UH, BUT THAT IS THE GOAL.

AND I HOPE, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THAT COUNCIL TAKES THESE TRIPS, THEY LEARN BOTH WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, WHAT THEY, WHAT THAT CITY IS TELLING US THAT THEY WOULD AVOID IF THEY COULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.

THE FINAL THING THAT I WANT TO SAY THAT I DIDN'T HEAR MENTIONED WAS THAT RIVERFRONT PROPERTY THAT WE TOOK THE TRIP TO THIS WAS AN INCREDIBLE DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE AS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, UH, A COMPANY CALLED BONZAI.

YEAH, THAT'S IT, UH, GOOD JOB DEX.

UH, THEY, UH, WERE THE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IN THIS.

THERE WERE OTHERS IN THE AREA, BUT THEY WERE THE BIG ONE.

THEY'RE HELPING TO BUILD A ZIP LINE OVER THIS, UH, MAN-MADE POND THAT THEY HAD FROM,

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UH, OVER THE COLORADO RIVER THAT THEY ALSO HAVE DOWN THERE.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN INCREDIBLY GORGEOUS PROJECT, UH, THAT THE, THE PUBLIC ENTITY AND THE PRIVATE ENTITIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER ON AND THEIR FUNDING WAS VERY SIMILAR, I THINK JUST IN REVERSE WITH OUR TOURS NUMBER TWO.

AND IT WAS INCREDIBLE.

AND TO SEE WHAT THAT CAN BE LIKE, AND TO SEE THAT PUBLIC AMENITY FROM THAT SAME KIND OF FINANCING MECHANISM THAT WE'RE DOING IN TERMS OF NUMBER TWO WAS INCREDIBLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE I COULD HAVE STAYED DOWN THERE ALL DAY, ESPECIALLY CAUSE WE WENT THERE IN THE MORNING.

IT WAS REALLY NICE.

UH, IN THE AFTERNOON IT FELT LIKE TEXAS, BUT, UH, IT, IT WAS REALLY AN EYE OPENING EXPERIENCE TO NOT ONLY SEE SOME THINGS THAT WERE MORE MATURE OF WHAT WE'RE KIND OF IN THE INFANCY ON AND AS WELL, SEE, UH, THE PROS AND CONS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE DONE IN THEIR DOWNTOWN AND THEIR STREETSCAPES.

UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, I, JERRY WENT AND I KNOW HE PROBABLY MIGHT HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FOR US AS WELL.

YEAH, MY, UM, MY FIRST IMPRESSION WHEN I GOT DOWNTOWN AND HOW THE CAR AND IN THE HOTEL SPACE, LOOKING DOWN THE STREET IS IT WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.

AND THE WAY THEY ENGINEERED THE SERPENTINE ROAD, GOING THROUGH DOWNTOWN ALLOWED FOR A LOT OF CREATIVE USES OF LANDSCAPING AND CREATED SOME ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO SIT OR, UM, OUTDOOR DINING FOR RESTAURANT SPACES.

THEN YOU CAN SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND LOOK DOWN THE STREET AND ONLY SEE, UM, MAYBE A BLOCK OR HALF BLOCKS.

IT WAS VERY PRETTY.

THE OTHER THING THAT STRUCK ME ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WAS HOW QUIET IT WAS AND I REALLY ENJOYED THE QUIETNESS, BUT THEN I REALIZED THAT IT'S QUIET BECAUSE THERE'S NO PEOPLE THERE.

AND, UM, AND LIKE, UH, DEC SAID, THERE'S THE ONLY TIME WE SAW PEOPLE WAS AT LUNCHTIME.

AND THEN IN THE EVENING THERE WAS VERY LITTLE FOOT TRAFFIC FOR EVENING DINING, AND THERE WAS EVEN LESS FOR, UH, EVENING ENTERTAINMENT.

I WALKED DOWN THE STREET AT NINE 30 BOTH NIGHTS.

I WAS THERE AND IT COULD AS WELL BEEN MIDNIGHT.

THERE WAS VERY FEW PEOPLE THERE.

SO MOST OF THE SHOPS WERE, UM, OUTFITTER RELATED, OUTDOORS RELATED CAUSE THEY HAVE A HUGE OUTDOOR RECREATION TYPE COMPONENT.

UM, SO I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME LACK OF DIVERSITY IN THEIR SHOPS AND IN WHAT SCOTT'S ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT AS A PRIMARY LORE AND DIDN'T REALLY SEE A PRIMARY LOWER THERE, THEY HAD THE GRAY WATERFRONT, BUT THERE'S NO REAL CONNECTION FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE WATERFRONT.

SO IT WAS A LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT.

THE ARTS PROGRAM WAS, WAS OUTSTANDING AND, UM, I DIDN'T QUALIFY AS A PRIMARY LOWER, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S KIND OF ANCILLARY TO WHY YOU'RE THERE ENJOY WHILE YOU'RE THERE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING PEOPLE THERE.

I THOUGHT THE, UH, SOMETHING ELSE I THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, TODAY WAS THAT ALL THE HOTELS WERE ON ONE SIDE OF TOWN BY THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE HOTELS WEREN'T SPREAD OUT A LITTLE BIT THROUGH DOWNTOWN TO KIND OF BRING VISITORS INTO, UM, MORE PARTS OF THE DOWNTOWN.

I THOUGHT THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING.

THEY EVEN HAD A PARKING GARAGE AND IT WAS VERY WELL HIDDEN IF THEY HAD POINTED OUT.

I DON'T THINK WE HAD SEEN IT.

SO LOTS OF CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION ON THE PART OF THE CITY PLANNERS.

AND I GUESS THEIR NEXT STEP IS FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET MORE PEOPLE THERE.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUR, WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING AUSTIN RIGHT UP THE STREET.

SO WE HAVE A LARGE POPULATION TO DRAW FROM AND THEY DON'T HAVE THAT.

UH, I GUESS THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BRINGING IN A LOT OF REALLY BIG ENTERTAINMENT.

THEY HAD, WE JUST MISS EASY TOP.

WE WERE THERE.

THEY WERE BRINGING IN MELISSA ETHERIDGE AND BOSS.

SCAGGS RON WHITE.

SO LOTS OF BIG NAME ENTERTAINMENT COMING THROUGH THERE.

IT WAS A VERY, I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY THOUGHT PROVOKING EXPERIENCE JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT.

UH, THE CREATIVITY OF HOW THEY GOT PEOPLE THERE FOR THEIR EVENTS WAS THE EVENTS CALENDAR.

THEY ALSO HAD AN INTERACTIVE EVENTS CALENDAR WHERE, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS COULD PUT, UH, EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE HOA, THEY WERE ABLE TO PUT THAT ON THE CITY PAGE.

THERE'S GOING ON IN ONE OF THE AREAS THROUGHOUT CITY, THERE WAS AN EVENT GOING ON.

UH, THE, THE RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THERE.

THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO MONITORS IT, MAKE SURE SOMETHING CRAZY.

DOES IT GO ON THERE? BUT I DID LIKE THAT PART OF IT, SEEING THAT EVENTS CALENDAR, BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN THE MARQUEE DOWNTOWN, I KNOW IT WASN'T A, A VERY GOOD SIGHT TO SEE AT MARQUEE DOWNTOWN, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MARK HE DID FOR US, IT GAVE US, I GAVE THE COMMUNITY A PLACE TO PUT DOWN THEIR EVENTS AT AND GIVE THE PUBLIC A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE AREA, WHICH IS GREAT FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE AFTER WE HAVE AN EVENT OR THERE'S AN EVENT IN THE AREA.

PEOPLE SAY, MAN, I WISH I WOULD'VE KNOWN ABOUT THAT TO HAVE A PAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO PUT THAT EVENT ON THERE AND BRING IT OUT DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY WOULD BE GREAT.

I'D LIKE TO

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SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT COME UP FORWARD WHERE OUR, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CREATE A PAGE LIKE THAT IN OUR CITY WEBSITE WHERE WE COULD PUT EVENTS ON THERE, COMMITTEE MEMBERS COULD PUT EVENTS ON THERE, SAY THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON AT AN HOA.

WE COULD PUT THAT DOWN THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAVING A BLOCK PARTY OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW.

UH, JUST, JUST THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

I KNOW FOR ST.

ANTHONY'S ADVERTISING THE FIESTA.

CAUSE WE USED TO DO THAT ON THE MARQUEE OUT THERE AND WE LOST THAT NOW.

SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN TOUGH SINCE THEN, BUT, UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT.

AND I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MICHAEL A. LITTLE BIT IF HE'S ONLINE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MICHAEL'S ONLINE XEON.

I DON'T THINK SO.

UH, WE SHOULD PROBABLY LET MR. SELLERS GIVE HIS THOUGHTS AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO COUNCIL OF ONE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE USED TO HAVE FIVE ITEMS AND IT'S 11 O'CLOCK.

YEAH.

MY THOUGHTS ARE GOING TO BE BRIEF.

UH, ONE, I JUST HOPE MATT WAS LISTENING.

WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE EVENTS CALENDAR, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SHARE THE PASSWORD THAT YOU CAN ALSO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING THROUGH RSS FEED.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IN OUR NEXT UPDATE.

UH, MY COMMENT MORE THAN ANYTHING IS WE ARE TO A POINT RIGHT NOW WITH OUR DESIGN, WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME REAL DECISIONS ON CENTER STREET, AS WELL AS ON, UH, THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THAT BTK IS PUTTING TOGETHER.

IF COUNSELOR CALLS, THEY REORIENTED WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING MAIN STREET, WHICH ARE OUR CENTER STREET FROM EAST WEST, NORTH, SOUTH TO FOLLOW BURLESON DOWN TO AMERICA, HEARTS AND PARK, AND THEN DOWN MAIN STREET FOR X NUMBER OF BLOCKS, LET'S SAY TWO TO THREE BLOCKS EACH WAY.

SO THE CONCEPT THAT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE THE COUNCIL TO WAS TO SERPENTINE ROADWAY.

AND, UH, ONE THING THAT IS LIMITING AND KYLE, UH, ESPECIALLY ON CENTER STREET IS WE HAVE 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY HAVE A A HUNDRED FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY NOW THAT'S RESTRICTS OUR ABILITY TO PARK IT.

COUNCIL RECALLS FRISCO.

THEIR DOWNTOWN WAS KIND OF DEAD AS WELL.

AND THEY WERE ABOUT TO START A REHAB OF THEIR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AREA.

AND THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REMOVE ON STREET PARKING IN DEFERENCE TO STRATEGIC PARKING GARAGE LOCATIONS.

AND THEN THEIR HOPE WAS TO BRING WIDE SIDEWALKS ALL THE WAY OUT, YOU KNOW, 20 PLUS FOOT SIDEWALKS ON EACH SIDE, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, AN OPPOSING TRAVELING AND GRAND JUNCTION.

WE ASKED THE QUESTION, HOW IMPORTANT IS THE SERPENTINE ROADWAY? AND THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, THEIR MAIN STREET WAS SERPENTINE.

AND THEN THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT STREET, WHICH I THINK WAS COLORADO STREET WAS, WAS NOT, AND IT WAS 80 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO IT EVERY TIME.

SERPENTINE HANDS DOWN.

IT CREATED TRAFFIC CALMING, CREATE A BEAUTIFICATION SPOTS, CREATED, UH, OUTDOOR SPOTS FOR, FOR DINING, ET CETERA.

UH, AND WE TALKED TO OUR PARKING ISSUES THROUGH AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID KIND OF THAT FIRST GO MODEL, THEY WOULD ALSO DO IF THEY COULD DO IT OVER AGAIN.

AND THEY DID HAVE A PARKING GARAGE JUST OFF THEIR MAIN STREET, UH, AND YOU KNOW, HAD LIMITED NUMBER OF SPACES.

SO TIMING WISE, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL, YOU KNOW, BIG DECISIONS TO MAKE.

AND I LIKE COUNCIL, JUST TO BE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PARAMETERS OF THE SERPENTINE, WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THE SERPENTINE, WHETHER YOU'D LIKE TO BRING THOSE SIDEWALKS OUT TO 20 PLUS FEET AND THEN JUST DO A 10 FOOT TRAVEL IN EACH DIRECTION LIKE GRAND JUNCTION, I'LL OPEN THE, UM, I'D EVEN EXPAND ON THAT IN SOME OF OUR AREAS WHERE IT ALLOWED DOING SOME RAISED INTERSECTIONS AS WELL.

CAUSE THAT REALLY PROVED TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN WITH RIDING TABLES SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE AS WELL.

AND THE OTHER THING IS IT'S STILL A STATE OWNED ROADWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO OVERCOME THAT WITH, WITH, UH, OUR BYPASS, BUT MOST LIKELY WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE DESIGNATION REMOVED FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS COUNCIL PRIORITIZES THEIR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, IT COULD BE THAT CENTER STREET FROM VETERANS DOWN JUST TAKES A BACK SEAT PRIORITY-WISE UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT DOWNTOWN SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND BEHAVE NORTH SOUTH EAST, WEST CASPER TOBY REAL QUICK.

CAUSE I KNOW WE, WE GOT A LOT TO GO THROUGH AND WE GOT SIX STILL.

UM, LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS HAD A GREAT TRIP.

UM, AND A LOT OF INFORMATION YOU'RE GIVING US TO US.

DID ANYBODY TAKE ANY PHOTOS BECAUSE ALL THIS GREAT STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ROBERT AND ALL THIS GREAT STUFF ABOUT SERPENTINI IN THE LIBRARY AND THE KIOSKS AND THE GREEN SPRAYS, I'D LOVE TO SEEN IT.

I'D HAVE LOVED TO SEEN IT IN THIS PRESENTATION.

SO MAYBE THE NEXT, THE NEXT ONE WE DO, UH, WE CAN SHOW THE PHOTOS.

SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND TO HEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT DOES SOUND EXCITING.

IT DOES.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BEEN ABLE TO LIKE KIND OF HEARING GUYS AND TRYING TO VISUALIZE WHO WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOOD.

AND THEY'RE A GREAT IDEA.

I THINK IF WE WOULD'VE HAD MORE TIME

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BETWEEN THAT REALLY SHORT TRIP AND THEN I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THEY JUST FILED FOR THIS.

CAUSE IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A TRIP BECAUSE YOU GET THERE SO QUICKLY AND YOU'RE SO PRESSED FOR TIME.

YOU REALLY DON'T GET TO TAKE IN MORE THAN YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

AND IT'S, IT'S TOUGH.

I MEAN, I KNOW I GOT BACK, I GET BACK REALLY TIRED.

I NEED A VACATION FROM THAT WORK, MAKE ASIAN, I CAN COMMIT TO BRING A LITTLE POWERPOINT BECAUSE I WANTED TO DO IT.

DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME.

AND I ACTUALLY, SO THAT WAY, THAT WAY THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS WELL.

AND WHAT YOU SAW.

AND THEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM OR THIS SIDEWALK OR SOMETHING, AT LEAST THEY CAN HAVE A LITTLE IDEA.

I COMMIT TO THAT.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE EXTRA PHOTOS, WE SHOULD ALSO, CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF US ALL HAVE PHOTOS.

WE SHOULD, WE GET CENTERED.

WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS DANIEL AND I, WHEN WE COUNT SOME MOVING PARTS AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN WE WERE WALKING, I WAS LIKE, MAN, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT BECAUSE I SAW EVERYBODY TAKING PICTURES.

I SAID, IF WE COULD JUST COMPILE THAT.

BUT I WAS LIKE, MAN, WE BOTH SAID, THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.

AND WE'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT GOING ON THIS WEEKEND WHERE IT'S A QUICK TURNAROUND TO DO THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SO WE KNEW THAT THE EXPECTATION FROM COUNSELORS TO REPORT IT AS IMMEDIATELY AS POSSIBLE ON OUR TRIPS.

BUT YEAH, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY.

DANIELLE, IF YOUR CUSTOMER PARTS, IF YOU'RE OPEN TO PUTTING THAT TOGETHER, I THINK ALL OF US TOOK PICTURES AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO SEND THEM OVER TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM 37

[37.  Consider and possible action to host Kyle market dates on a weekly or biweekly basis all year round.  Except when City events are taking place. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]

CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO HOST KYLE MARKET DAYS, UH, UH, ON A WEEKLY OR BIWEEKLY BASIS ALL YEAR ROUND, EXCEPT WHEN CITY EVENTS ARE TAKING PLACE CUSTOMER PARSLEY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THE KICKOFF OF MARKET DAYS WAS PHENOMENAL.

UM, LOTS OF VENDORS, LOTS OF TENTS.

UH, I THINK IT WAS REALLY A GREAT, EXCITING EXPERIENCE FOR MOST OF THE RESIDENTS.

UH, I SAW PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY AND I KNOW IT WAS HOT AND I HAVE TO SAY I AM.

SO I APPRECIATE WHAT PARKS AND REC DID WITH THE, UH, TEND TO CALL DOWN RESIDENTS.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST PHENOMENAL.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

UM, TALKING TO SOME STAFF MEMBERS, UM, I WAS WONDERING WHY DON'T WE DO THIS EVERY WEEK? LIKE MOST CITIES DO.

CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT WILL GIVE CONSISTENCY TO THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE TO GO TO THE FARMER'S MARKET.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE INCLUDE FARMERS INTO THESE EVENTS AND IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, UM, A STAFF MEMBER THAT WAS AT THE PARK EXPRESS, UH, OPINION, AND SAID THAT THAT WOULD BE PHENOMENAL BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT PUT MUCH OF, OR EXTRA WORK ON STAFF BECAUSE BASICALLY VENDORS FULL SET UP AS THEY GO EVERY WEEK.

SO IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CD WILL CONSIDER TO HAVE A WEEKLY OR MAYBE TWICE A MONTH MARKET DAYS EVENT? I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY FOR A FARMER'S MARKET.

I WOULD LOVE TO CREATE THAT CONSISTENCY WITH THE CAL RESIDENTS AND THE VENDORS TOO.

WE'RE GOING TO CAL MARKET DAYS.

YEAH.

SO, UH, IT IS A TOPIC THAT WE HAD BROUGHT UP WITH THE PARK BOARD BEFORE, UM, KIND OF PRE COVID.

WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A WEEKLY MARKET AND AT THE TIME IT CAME DOWN TO WEEKEND VERSUS WEEKDAY.

UM, A LOT OF THE MARKETS AND WE RECENTLY THIS WEEKEND DID A SURVEY OF 38 MARKETS IN THE AREA, UM, AND OF THOSE ALL, BUT THREE OF THEM ARE ON THE WEEKEND.

THREE OF THOSE MARKETS ARE DURING THE WEEK.

AND THE PROBLEM WITH DOING ANOTHER WEEKEND MARKET IS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE VENDORS ARE ALREADY, UM, DEDICATED SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE WEEKENDS.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE DOING A WEEKDAY MARKET NOW, RIGHT NOW, OUR MARKET DAY IS AN ARTIST AND MARKET.

UM, WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT MAYBE GEARING IT TOWARDS MORE OF A FARMER'S MARKET.

SO LIKE A WEEKDAY FARMER'S MARKET MIGHT BE OUR BEST ROUTE.

UM, DEFINITELY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE PARK BOARD AGAIN AND WITH STAFF, BUT IF THAT'S DIRECTION GIVEN IT'S SOMETHING WE PROBABLY DID DISCUSS THAT WE'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT.

WOULD IT BE EASIER ON STAFF TO DO IT DURING THE WEEKDAYS? ABSOLUTELY.

CAUSE WE ALREADY WORK EVERY WEEKEND.

PRETTY MUCH.

WE WORK A LOT OF WEEKENDS, SO IT WOULD BE EASIER ON THE STAFF.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING MORE I'D LIKE TO DO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK.

HE CAN JUST RELAX HIS SHUL, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME LIKE LEGIT FARM FOOD.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, CAUSE AS MUCH AS I LOVE OUR VENDORS, UM, SOMETIMES I JUST WANT TO, WE, THERE WAS ONE IN LOCKHART, THERE WAS A FARM FARMER'S MARKET IN DOCKER AND THEY HAD THE BEST PUMPS.

AND SO I BOUGHT LIKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF WALLETS.

IT'D BE NICE TO, TO DO THE SAME HERE.

SO AGAIN, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

SO IN THE SAKE OF KIND OF MOVING THINGS ALONG, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'D ALL LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, MA GIVE DIRECTION FOR THE PARKS BOARD? BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS GREAT, UH, FOR THE PARKS BOARD, UH, TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS AS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED THIS EVENING.

I SECOND

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THAT MOTION BY CASPER ELLISON.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO ENGAGE THE PARKS BOARD IN EXPANDING CAL MARKET DAYS, POSSIBILITIES AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND SERVE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT

[38.  

Discussion and general direction regarding logistics for selection of time capsule items for Heroes Memorial Park~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor

]

UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 38 DISCUSSION AND GENERAL DIRECTION REGARDING LOGISTICS FOR SELECTION OF TIME, CAPSULE, EYES FOR HEROES, MEMORIAL PARK, UH, GOTTA SHOW Y'ALL.

THIS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.

I WAS EXPECTING, I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE THIS BIG, UH, SO THEY ARE, THIS IS THE TIME CAPSULE.

SO I WANTED TO THROW THAT UP SO THAT EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

IT'S PRETTY, UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, I GUESS, BUT IT'S FIBERGLASS ON THE INSIDE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN WITH FIBERGLASS SHOP.

IT'S LIKE A SWEAT IT'S WHEN MOTORCYCLE FABRICATION PLACES.

INTERESTING.

UM, SO THE, THE TIME CAPSULE, UH, THE TIME CAPSULE PLATE IS GOING TO BE IN THIS IS FROM THE DESIGNS THAT WE ALL HAVE.

UH, I'M SHOWING YOU ALL THIS BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A, SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, UH, QUARTER INCH, UH, BRONZE LID WITH HAND RUBBED, ANTIQUE FINISH INLAID FLUSH INTO THE BLACK GRANITE, ALL TECHS RACE AT LEAST ONE 32ND OF AN INCH.

UH, IT SAYS TIME CAPSULE BURIED 9 11 20 22, WHICH IS WHEN OUR ANTICIPATED, UH, YOU KNOW, RIBBON CUTTING IS GOING TO BE ON SEPTEMBER 11TH TO BE OPEN 9 11 21 0 1, WHICH WILL BE THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF NINE 11.

AND, UH, THE ENTIRE PLINTH, UH, OF HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK IS, IS BLACK GRANITE.

UH, SO IT'S SPECIAL.

IT IS THE IDEA.

SO, UH, ALL OF THAT IS GREAT.

IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THE IDEA FOR, HEY, LET'S HAVE A TIME CAPSULE.

LET'S MAKE IT SIGNIFICANT.

LET'S HAVE IT BE BURIED ON NINE 11, OPEN ON THE HUNDREDTH ANNIVERSARY.

UM, MY KIDS WILL BE 93 IF THEY'RE STILL AROUND MY OLDEST.

UH, SO THAT'S THE IDEA THAT WHATEVER WE BURIED THERE IS GOING TO ABSOLUTELY OUTLAST ALL OF US, UH, WHO WOULD BE A PART OF THE BURYING, WHICH IS KIND OF A LEGACY MOMENT.

UH, SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CARE ABOUT A LOT, BUT ALL OF THAT IS GREAT.

AND THEN THE QUESTION IS, WELL, WHAT DO YOU PUT IN THERE AND WHO MAKES THE DECISIONS WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A CONFINED SPACE? AND SO THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF DIFFERENT THOUGHTS IN MY HEAD ABOUT IT, AND NOW THE TIME HAS COME TO MAKE SOME KIND OF DECISIONS.

SO I HAVE A GENERAL PROPOSAL.

I THINK THAT GENERALLY IT NEEDS TO REPRESENT, UH, THREE THINGS, UH, VETERANS, FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE CITY OF KYLE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ARE REPRESENTED IN THE CREATION OF, AND THE MEMORIAL IS, UH, OF THE PARK.

SO MY THOUGHT, IF THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED WOULD BE TO HAVE A COUNCIL CONTINGENT ON, UH, CREATE SOME KIND OF COMMITTEE THAT GOES OUT AND HELPS TO MARKET AND PROMOTE, AND THEN MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON WHAT GOES IN.

IT WOULD BE POLICE CHIEF, THE FIRE CHIEF, THE EMS CHIEF, THE, UH, AMVETS COMMANDER, THE VFW COMMANDER, UH, THE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT GROUP.

AND THEN, AND THAT, THAT WAS JUST PRETTY MUCH MY THOUGHT, AS FAR AS THE SELECTION GROUP, I THINK THAT THE FOUNDERS ALL SHOULD GET TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY GET TO PUT IN THERE, WHICH WOULD BE EVERYONE WHOSE NAME IS ON THE COUNCIL PLAQUE, UH, WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE.

UH, I THINK THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE, UM, THE, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT I'VE MENTIONED SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE.

BUT THEN THE PARTICULAR GROUP THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE ABLE TO MAYBE GO OUT TO THE SCHOOLS OR GO OUT TO CREATE CONTESTS, FACEBOOK CONTESTS, OR, UH, JUST GO OUT AND SOLICIT THE COMMUNITY.

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL? IF YOU HAVE A GROUP THAT CAN MAKE THE DECISION, THEN YOU CAN, IT'S LIKE A, IS IT THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR OR IS IT THE CREAM OF THE CROP, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MENTALITY.

AND I ALWAYS TRY TO GO FOR THE CREAM OF THE CROP MENTALITY, BUT IT JUST REQUIRES BEING WILLING TO SAY YES OR NO TO THINGS.

THE OTHER OPTION IS JUST TO SAY, WELL, THE COUNCIL IS JUST GOING TO MAKE THE DECISIONS FOR WHAT GOES IN, BUT JUST LOGISTICALLY I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT DOING THAT.

SO THOSE ARE MY PROPOSALS AND I'M OPEN TO FEEDBACK.

I GUESS WE COULD START OFF WITH REACHING OUT TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND SEEING IF THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR ITEM, SMALL ENOUGH

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FROM EACH ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL IN KYLE, THEY'LL LIKE TO DONATE SOMETHING OF THEIR SCHOOL OF THAT YEAR, SOMETHING SMALL AND SAY, IT COULD BE, THIS WAS FROM CHAPEL MIDDLE SCHOOL, THIS ONE'S FROM KYLE ELEMENTARY, THIS ONE'S FROM NEGLEY AND SO FORTH IN THAT SENSE IT'S CELLS THAT SIGNIFIES THE, THE EDUCATION, THE SCHOOL PART OF THAT, UH, I GUESS ALSO GETTING WITH EACH MEMBER OR, OR ORGANIZATION, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT THEN AGAIN FROM US, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO CHOOSE WHAT WE WOULD FEEL WOULD SIGNIFY THAT WOULD NEED TO GO IN THERE.

UH, IRONICALLY, I HAVE MY OWN KIND OF TIME CAPSULES THAT I'VE BEEN KEEPING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

I DO HAVE THE OFFICIAL ACTUAL NEWSPAPER THAT CAME OUT ON NINE 11, 2001.

I STILL HAVE IT.

I EVEN STILL HAVE THE PRINTED EDITION THAT CAME OUT LATER ON THAT AFTERNOON AND THE NEXT DAY.

SO I HAVE A LOT OF THAT HISTORY STILL OF THE ACTUAL NEWSPAPER FROM THE STATESMEN OF NINE 11.

AND I CAN SEE RIGHT NOW IT HAD ROUND ROCK EXPRESS ON THE FRONT PAGE.

YEAH.

WELL, THAT'S KIND OF THE THOUGHT IT'S LIKE, WHERE ARE THE GENERATION THAT IS ALIVE AT NINE 11? YOU KNOW? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE, THE, THE YOUNGEST OF US WERE AROUND, YOU KNOW, I WAS A SOPHOMORE IN HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH DATES ME, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS THING IS OPENED, WITHOUT DOUBT, NO ONE WHO IS PRESENT TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF COLLEGE IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY THREE, 400,000 PEOPLE BY THEN.

AND NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON IN THE CITY WILL HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT NINE 11 WAS, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING OUR, YOU KNOW, HUMANITY CONTINUES TO.

YEAH, I GUESS WE CAN LOOK AT IT IN THAT ASPECT IF WE WERE TO REACH OUT TO, UM, SOME AT THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES AND WHAT, WHAT SYMBOLIZES NINE 11 FOR THEM, AND THEN HAVE, HAVE THEM DONATE A SMALL LITTLE TOKEN OF SOME SORT, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THAT IT COMES SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO, UM, I LIKE THE IDEA, I ACTUALLY LOVE YOUR PROPOSAL AND ALL THE GROUPS THAT YOU PROPOSED.

I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.

I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS ADDS A GREAT ADDITION TO THAT, TO GET ALL THE SCHOOLS.

I KIND OF THINK OF THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, AT THAT DATE, UH, THAT YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF THOSE SCHOOLS WILL NOT EXIST AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SOMETIMES HAPPEN.

SO IT'S KIND OF MARKING THAT TIME IN OUR HISTORY, UH, THAT ALL THESE SCHOOLS, UH, ARE A PART OF IT.

SO I LOVE ADDING THAT PIECE TO IT, BUT I THINK ALL OF THE ENTITIES THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED VERY MUCH FOR IT, I WOULD LIKE PROPOSE TO, FOR US TO PROPOSE THAT, THAT PROCESS.

I THINK IT'S A, TO ME, IT MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD.

SO, UM, UH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, REPRESENTATIVES, YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, VETERAN, UH, REPRESENTATIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY BETWEEN BFW AND M BETS.

YOU MENTIONED, UM, WHAT WAS HE EITHER RACHEL, AND THEN ACTUALLY I FORGOT TO MENTION, BUT JERRY WOULD BE THE, YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THE, THOSE STAFF LIAISONS THAT ARE PERTINENT.

SO COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, JERRY HENDRIX, UM, WHO ELSE DID YOU MENTION? SO, UH, AND BETS, COMPETITOR, COMMANDER, VFW COMMANDER, CHIEF FAILURE, POLICE CHIEF IN EMS, EMS, THOSE STAFF MEMBERS.

I KNOW YOU MENTIONED BEING ON IT AS WELL, WHICH I SUPPORT THAT.

UH, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO KIND OF HOW WE DO THE TASK FORCE.

I LOVE THE IDEA REALLY.

I KNOW SIMILAR CALM AT NIGHT, AND I HAVE AN IDEA UP HERE, UH, SIMILAR TO THAT, OF GOING OUT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AND KIND OF GETTING THAT FEEDBACK FROM THOSE VARIOUS DIFFERENT ENTITIES AS COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE AS MENTIONED, GOING TO THE SCHOOLS, USING SOCIAL MEDIA OR AT THE DIFFERENT CONTEST TO TRY TO FIND THE CREAM OF THE CROP OF ALL THOSE IDEAS, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS SOON AS PEOPLE FIND OUT ABOUT THIS AND WE START PROMOTING IT, EVERYBODY AND THEIR MOTHER IS GOING TO HAVE AN IDEA.

SO WE NEED A GROUP THAT WILL BE THE YES AND NO, AND MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS TASKFORCE LIKE, UH, TO KIND OF JUST WAIT THROUGH THAT, CERTAINLY BRINGING BACK THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL, THAT'S FINE.

AND ALL THAT STEP TWO, IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.

BUT, UM, I, I LIKE THIS IDEA.

SO I'M GOING TO MOTION TO, UH, UH, APPROVE THAT OR MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, ALL THE PARTIES THAT WE JUST MENTIONED, DO I HAVE TO MENTION THOSE AGAIN ARE A PART OF THAT.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY ADD AT LEAST ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER OR TWO TO THAT BODY, IF ANYBODY'S BURNING TO BE ON THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO, BUT I WILL CLAD LADIES TAKE A STEP BACK.

IF THERE ARE TWO OTHERS THAT REALLY, REALLY WANT TO BE ON IT.

WELL, I ACTUALLY WOULD THINK THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO ADD TO, IT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION THAT IT WOULD BE YOU AND MAYOR PRO TEM BECAUSE OF BEING A PART OF THIS PROJECT FROM THE BEGINNING.

SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT

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WAS MY THOUGHT FROM THE BEGINNING, IF, IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTED, BUT THAT'S MY SUGGESTION.

IT'S NOT INTENDED TO MAKE ANY KIND OF STATEMENTS, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT IS NEARLY FINISHED AND IT'S BACKWARDS FACING, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING ON IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE MAYOR PRO TEM WANTS TO BE IN MOTION.

SO, UM, WELL YOU SAID IF, IF A COUPLE OF COUNCIL YOU KIND OF, OH YEAH, YEAH.

SORRY.

SO I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU WITH, YEAH.

TO ADD TO THAT MOTION THAT, UH, ON TOP OF MAYOR BEING ON THAT, UH, RIZZO AND MYSELF BEING, UH, ON THAT AS WELL, RIGHT.

THE MOTION IS MADE BY COUNSELOR ELLISON SECONDED BY CUSTOMER TOBY IS THAT WE ESTABLISH, UH, AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, WITH THE TASK FROM, UH, WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, DIRECTION OF COUNCIL TO, UM, UH, FIGURE OUT HOW, WHAT GOES IN THE TIME CAPSULE, UH, AND TO BE A PART OF THE PROMOTION OF THAT.

UM, UH, AND THE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE WOULD BE, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO, CUSTOMER ELLISON, UH, MAYOR, UH, RACHEL SONIA, UH, JERRY HENDRICK FROM THE CITY, AS WELL AS THE, UH, FIRE CHIEF POLICE, CHIEF EMS, CHIEF, AND COMMANDER AND VFW COMMANDER.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, OH, CUSTOMER FORCE COUNT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO DID WE DECIDE ON A YEAR? CAUSE I'M NOT SURE I'M TOO, TOO KEEN ON GOING BACK TO 2021.

I UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ALIGN IT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NINE 11.

BUT TO ME, I FEEL LIKE A TIME CAPSULE IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THAT DAY.

UM, AND IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TEDIOUS AND A LOT, A LOT OF WORK FOR PEOPLE TO GO BACK A YEAR AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WANT TO PUT IN THERE.

UM, SO THE TIME FOR ME IS KIND OF, UM, AN ISSUE.

AND THEN, UM, IT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION AND I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE ON HERE WILL NOT AGREE, BUT I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT NONPOLITICAL.

UM, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, COUNCILS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH.

UM, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'LL KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLE.

UM, AND THE INFORMATION SHOULD BE ABOUT THE CITY AND THE STATE AND THE WORLD AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT DAY OR THAT WEEK, AS OPPOSED TO BEING THIS BIG GRAND THING, THAT'S ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT REALLY IT'S SUPPOSED TO JUST BE ABOUT THE STATE OF SOCIETY AT THAT TIME.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I KNOW I AM THE MINORITY.

WELL, I GUESS, POLITICAL, WHAT DO YOU SHAME FOR US TO AVOID? I KNOW IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE, WE'RE GOING TO, THE NAMES ARE GOING TO BE ON THE MEMORIAL, CORRECT? FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YEAH.

SO THEN I WONDER DOES IT NEEDS TO BE ON THERE AND THEN IT DOES.

DO THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE COUNCIL TOO? LIKE, IS THAT IT WOULD BE UP FOR THE COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE WHO PUTS WHAT THERE, THEY WOULD BE THE ONES WHO WOULD DETERMINE, I FELT LIKE FOUNDERS WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO WANT TO PUT IN.

I ALSO THOUGHT LIKE A NUDGE DESIGN MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING THEY WANT TO PUT IN JUST DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED WOULD BE, UH, ALLOWED TO PUT ONE ITEM IN THAT TIMEFRAME.

WHEN YOU SAY IT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE, THAT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL.

CORRECT? BECAUSE THAT'S MY FEAR.

MY FEAR IS LIKE, THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE A MERRY-GO-ROUND WHEN, WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

AND TH TH JUST HOW CERTAIN PEOPLE WERE SUPER INVOLVED AND OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MUCH INSIGHT OF WHAT WAS GOING ON.

I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE THIS.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE TIME CAPSULE.

I LOVE IF YOU GUYS FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE A TASKFORCE AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT THE GOAL OF WHATEVER GROUP YOU GUYS WANT TO CALL IT, IT SHOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

SO YOU GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.

NOW I'M NOT SAYING COUNCIL NEEDS TO DECIDE ON ALL 30 DIFFERENT KINDS OF IDEAS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, BUT IF THE GROUP OF PEOPLE CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO LIKE FOUR AND THEN BRING IT BACK AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE COLLECTIVELY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN YOU GUYS DECIDING.

AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO JUST GO ALONG WITH IT.

WELL, IT'S A, IT'S A LARGE GROUP.

THAT'S MAKING A DECISION.

IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL.

WHO'S MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.

WE'RE SAYING THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE COUNCIL.

WHO'S THE BEST DETERMINER BECAUSE IT, THE CITY PORTION IS ONLY A THIRD OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS SORT OF THE GOAL HERE.

SO THERE'S THE VFW.

AND THEN THERE'S THE FIRST RESPONDERS AND THEY PRETTY MUCH KIND OF HAVE A THIRD OF IT.

AND WE'RE ALL COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT SIZE.

THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRY TO ELEMENTS, TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT WAITING AND WAITING AND WAITING UNTIL THE LAST DAY.

AND EVERYONE SHOWS UP AND PUTS THEIR STUFF IN.

THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND YOU HAVE TO LIKE PUT IT TOGETHER.

LIKE A JIGSAW IS HOW I SEE IT IN MY HEAD.

LIKE, THERE'S JUST A LOT TO IT.

AND THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S JUST NOT A, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS BODY, THIS, THESE, THESE MEETINGS IS NOT THE TIME FOR US TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE.

SO MAYBE A GOOD MEDIUM WOULD BE WHATEVER COUNCIL

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WANTS TO STICK IN THERE.

THEY BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

BUT THE THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO STICK IN THERE, THAT'S UP TO THEM BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU GUYS, THERE'S THREE OF YOU GUYS THAT WANT TO DECIDE WHAT WAS IN THERE, BUT THREE IS NOT THE MAJORITY.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY FAIR THAT THREE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON A MINORITY OF THE COUNCIL.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT HE'S GETTING AT.

YOU WERE INVOLVED IN DIFFERENT CITY GROUPS, CITY, INDIVIDUALS, TO BE PART OF THIS.

AND YOU HAVE THE THREE PEOPLE THAT YES, ARE ON COUNCIL TO BE PART OF THAT AREA.

AND AGAIN, IT'S A COLLABORATION AS FAR SCALE.

IT'S, THEY'LL HAVE OF FINDING THESE PIECES TO WHERE WE CAN MEMORIALIZE YES.

RIGHT HERE IN THE HISTORY, BUT ALSO TO WHERE THIS WOULD BE OPENED MANY, MANY YEARS FROM NOW.

AND AGAIN, JUST COMING UP WITH A SUGGESTION OF ALL THE SCHOOLS COMING UP WITH A SCENE, IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED.

SO I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A MATTER OF LIKE WHERE YOU OKAY.

WE'LL, LET'S ALL COME BACK AND LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

NO, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS IN HERE.

NO, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT.

NO, I DON'T HAVE THIS.

OKAY.

LET ME CLARIFY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT TO SAYING, LIKE, I WANT TO HAVE A SAY TO SAY, WELL, I DON'T APPROVE OF HAVING THAT IN THERE.

I DON'T LIKE THIS ONE AND I DON'T THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF WHAT IT IS.

AND WE CAN, THE CONCEPT I'M TRYING TO PUSH EITHER.

IF YOU, IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT I SAID, WHAT I SAID WAS I WOULD, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THOSE GROUPS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE GROUP OF COUNCIL AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DECIDE TO PUT IN THERE, THE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE COUNCIL GROUP, THEY GET AT LEAST BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

SO WE CAN ALL COLLECTIVELY DECIDE WHAT COUNCIL STICKS IN THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE SCHOOLS OR ANY OTHER GROUPS TOOK IN THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY HE MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT EACH ONE OF US, IF WE CHOOSE TO CAN HAVE AN ITEM, IF WE CHOOSE TO, TO ADD IN THERE AGAIN, IT'S JUST, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION SAYING, HERE'S THE TASK FORCE FOR THIS.

AND IF WE AS DECIDE TO EACH INDIVIDUAL, WANT TO ADD SOMETHING, OR, I MEAN, AGAIN, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, THIS SUGGESTION, I ALREADY KNOW WHAT I WANT TO ADD.

AND IT'S A PAPER, IT'S A SPEECH.

SO I WANT TO WRITE, I WANT TO WRITE A SPEECH.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

THEN MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING.

CAUSE WHAT I THOUGHT, WHAT WAS GOING ON WAS THE THREE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO DECIDE WHAT, COUNCIL'S SIX IN THERE.

NO, EACH COUNSELOR, LIKE, IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BRING IN? BECAUSE YOU'RE A FOUNDER.

SO WHAT IS YOUR ITEM? ARE YOU, WE WANT TO ADD THIS PEN AND HAVE YOUR NAME, THREE OF US, JUST PUT IT IN POSSIBLE FOR THE ENTIRE THING AND COMING UP WITH THAT PLAN.

SO WHAT I THOUGHT, WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS WAS YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO DECIDE WHAT COUNCIL WOULD STICK IN THERE.

SO OBVIOUSLY MISCOMMUNICATION.

SO I'M GLAD I PICKED UP ON THAT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT WE, AND MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE RULES ABOUT THE SIZE, LIKE YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THOUGHTS OF FUNNY THINGS I WANT TO PUT IN THERE, BUT THEY'RE TOO BIG.

RIGHT.

AND SO LIKE YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER.

AND SO OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S CONSIDERING EACH OTHER, LIKE, SORRY, THAT'S TOO BIG.

YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE THREE OF US WHO HAD DECIDED THAT'S THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER, WHO WOULD BE DECIDING THAT HOPEFULLY YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF WAY OF NARROWING DOWN AND MAKING THESE DECISIONS AND DOING THEM IN A SORT OF A TIMELY MANNER, UH, OTHERWISE SEPTEMBER 11TH AND COMMENT.

AND WE JUST WON'T BE EVEN CLOSE TO HAVING A REALLY GREAT TIME.

CAUSE THE POINT IS LIKE IN 2101 FOR WHEN THEY OPEN, IT'S JUST FULL OF AWESOME STUFF AS OPPOSED TO YEAH.

WE DIDN'T REALLY PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS.

AND THAT'S MY FEAR IS THAT WE WON'T PUT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF THOUGHT INTO MAKING SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S JUST GREAT WHEN THEY FINALLY DO OPEN AND WE WON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S GREAT.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MY MISUNDERSTANDING.

CAN YOU GIVE A LINE THAT ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE ALIVE? YEAH.

WE'RE ALL GONE.

WE'RE GONE.

I FIGURED OUT SOME WAY TO CRYO FREEZERS.

BUT UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A FUN PROCESS.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[40.  Discussion and possible action regarding the creation of a city auditor position under financial department. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]

40 DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CREATION OF A CITY AUDITOR POSITION UNDER FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT.

COUNCILMEMBER FLUOROSCOPE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

PER SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS, SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE GROWTH AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR OTHERS.

IT MAY BE JUST TO SURVIVE THEIR TERM WITHOUT AGING IN 20 YEARS.

BUT FOR ME IT'S TO BE ABLE TO LEAD THE CITY IN A BETTER SELF-SUSTAINING POSITION THAN WHEN I FOUND IT.

ONE OF THE REOCCURRING PATTERNS THAT I SAW IN MY RESEARCH TO MAKE KYLA MORE SELF-SUSTAINING CITY WAS A CITY AUDITOR CITY AUDITORS ARE USED TO EXAMINE CITY OPERATIONS TO HELP IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES, TO REDUCE COSTS AND INCREASE EFFICIENCY AS WELL AS TO HELP CREATE A MORE EQUITABLE CITY BY PERFORMING AUDITS AND ANALYZING INFORMATION WITHIN THE CITY WORKPLACE AND FOR THE RESIDENTS, THE CITY IN MY BACKUP

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MATERIAL, I LISTED SEVERAL PERFORMANCE AUDIT LINKS TO INFORMATION FOR THOSE AUDITS.

AND AS WELL AS PROVIDE INFORMATION ON OTHER CITIES, WHICH HAVE BOTH A FINANCE DIRECTOR AND AN AUDITOR, SOME WILL SAY THIS ITEM COULD BE BROUGHT UP DURING THE BUDGET MEETINGS, WHICH I WILL NOT DISAGREE.

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE MORE RESIDENTS WANT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND AS ALWAYS, IT IS MY GOAL TO OBTAIN AS MUCH FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS AS POSSIBLE TO BE CLEAR, I HAVE NOT LOOKING FOR AN AUDITOR TO REPLACE OUTSIDE AUDITS, BUT TO OBTAIN AND ANALYZE THE CITY'S INFORMATION, WHICH WE CAN UTILIZE TO GROW A BETTER KYLE AND I YIELD THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION DISCUSSION.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.

SO THAT WAY YOU CAN GET YOUR THOUGHTS ACROSS THE RESIDENTS.

I DO WISH HOPE THAT OUR HOPE IS TO BRING THIS BACK DURING BUDGET.

CAUSE I KNOW SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL PROBABLY BE VYING FOR POSITIONS THAT THEY FEEL ARE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

SO HAVING THIS DISCUSSION DURING THE REGULAR BUDGET MEETING IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

SO I HOPE YOU'RE AMENABLE TO BRINGING THAT BACK THEN BECAUSE FOR ME, I ALREADY HAVE A LIST OF DEPARTMENTS.

I THINK WE NEED TO FILL AND POSITIONS WE NEED TO FILL AS WELL.

SO, UH, IF WE, WE DO IT DURING THAT TIME, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, THAT'S MY OPINION AS WELL.

UM, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, INITIALLY WHEN I READ THE ITEM AND TALK ABOUT HAVING A CITY AUDITOR, UM, OF COURSE I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT'S GOING TO BECOME AN ISSUE SINCE WE SHOULD BE HAVING A THIRD PARTY AUDITOR, DO THE AUDITS FOR THE CITY.

BUT, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I HAVE EVER HEARD OF THIS POSITION OF SOMEBODY THAT WILL ANALYZE DIVERSITY AND WORKPLACE CLIMATE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PAUL'S BELONG, YOU KNOW, HR, UM, SAME FOR THE EMPLOYEES WORKFORCE DIVERSITY IN SALARY TRENDS, ROTE PAVING.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ONE PERSON CAN DO AN AUDIT TO ANALYZE THAT ALL OF THAT IS TAKING PLACE.

AND IF THAT WILL BE THE NAME OF THAT POSITION, UM, I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THAT.

SO IS THERE SUCH A THING? YES.

SO ALL THESE CAME FROM THE LINKS BELOW AND IT WAS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY AUDITOR.

SO, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GIVE EXAMPLES TO GIVE YOU GUYS TIME TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND RESEARCH AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS A CITY AUDITOR WOULD DO.

I THINK CARL IS GROWING SO FAST AND IN ORDER TO, UM, DEVELOP EQUALLY ON BOTH SIDES AND AN AUDITOR, COME IN AND TELL US WHAT WE'RE LACKING ON ONE SIDE OR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER SIDE.

THEY CAN ALSO COME IN AND, UM, TELL US WHAT WE COULD DO TO BE A BETTER EMPLOYER OR WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN OFFER.

UM, AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FINANCIAL.

IT COULD ALSO BE BENEFITS THAT WE CAN OFFER.

IT'S IT'S REALLY JUST A BREAKDOWN AND ANALYSIS OF NUMBERS.

AND, UM, I, THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO PUT ON ANY ONE STAFF THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

UM, AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF CITIES DO HAVE AUDITORS.

I KNOW THE CITY OF KYLE, I MEAN THAT'S CAUSE KYLE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS ONE.

BRIAN HAS ONE LAKE CITY HAS ONE.

AND I TRIED TO PUT CITIES IN THERE THAT HAD COMPARABLE POPULATION OR A POPULATION THAT WE MIGHT BUILD OUT TO BE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

UM, IF THIS IS A PERSONNEL ISSUE, CORRECT.

UM, MR. SELLERS, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS POSITION HERE? IF WE DECIDE TO TALK ABOUT IT DURING BUDGET SEASON, WHETHER IT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER OR FEEL NOT AT THIS TIME? WELL, TH THIS POSITION IS TYPICALLY INDEPENDENT, RIGHT? SO THIS WOULD BE A POSITION OF COUNSEL NOT REPORTING TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OR TO MYSELF.

OKAY.

SO COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT.

WHETHER THE COUNCIL FEELS LIKE WE NEEDED AN ON-STAFF AUDITOR.

WE DO HAVE, UH, A CURRENT THIRD-PARTY AUDITOR THAT DOES, UH, AN ANNUAL FINANCIAL AUDIT.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUDITOR TO DO FORENSIC AUDITS, BUT WE CAN ALSO, UH, UTILIZE OUR, OUR THIRD PARTY, OUR PARTY AUDITOR FOR THAT PURPOSE.

SO IT REALLY BE, UH, TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THIS POSITION.

UH, AND THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A POSITION THAT FROM A CITY MANAGER PERSPECTIVE THAT I WOULD UTILIZE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE I WANT TO MOVE ON.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP

[41.  Discussion and possible action regarding all City policies, to include the process of keeping Council updated on any policy changes, in order to comply with Section 4.03b of the City's Charter. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]

AGENDA ITEM 41 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ALL CITY POLICIES TO INCLUDE THE PROCESS OF KEEPING COUNCIL UPDATED ON ANY POLICY CHANGES IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH SECTION 4.03 B

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OF THE CITY'S CHARTER.

HI, THANK YOU.

POLICIES ARE CREATED, IMPLEMENTED TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY AND EQUALITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SECTION 4.03 B OF THE CITY'S CHARTER REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL TO ENSURE ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER AND THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY AND COMPLIANCE WITH POLICIES AND RESOLUTIONS.

SINCE IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF COUNCIL TO ENFORCE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL CITY POLICIES, NO POLICIES SHOULD BE CREATED OR ENFORCED WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE COUNCIL.

I HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED OR SEEN ANY POLICY REGARDING STAFF ATTENDANCE DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS, BEING DEPENDENT ON THEIR NAME, BEING PLACED ON THE AGENDA.

THE ABSENCE OF CITY DIRECTORS STEERING OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHICH IS A CHANGE IN BRIAR EXPECTATIONS CAN HAVE A MAJOR EFFECT ON DECISIONS MADE BY COUNCIL, NOR HAVE I SEEN A POLICY OUTLINING WHAT THE INFORMATION IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TO THE CITY MANAGER AFTER I STAFF OR STAFF SLASH COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, IF THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO ENFORCE EITHER OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED CURRENTLY ENFORCED POLICIES, THE CITY WILL NEED TO CREATE SUCH POLICIES AND PRESENT THEM TO COUNCIL TO MAKE AWARE, AND IF NEEDED REVIEW OR REVISE ANY POLICIES.

THIS IS TO PROTECT THE EMPLOYEES, THE CITY, AND ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

THIS PROCEDURE IS NOT, AND SHOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO WHAT I JUST DISCUSSED.

THE REQUIREMENT EXTENDS TO ALL POLICIES, THE CITY AND FORCES.

UM, ALSO, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY I DISAGREE WITH THESE POLICIES.

I THINK FOR CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THAT, UM, WE ARE GOING TO ENFORCE ANY KIND OF POLICIES THAT IT SHOULD BE, UM, SOMEHOW CODIFIED OR IN WRITING.

THANK YOU.

I YIELD THE FLOOR DISCUSSION.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE, IF THOSE, IF THAT'S THESE POLICIES THAT I JUST SPOKE ABOUT, IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE POLICIES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM IN FOR THE STAFF TO HAVE CONSISTENCY AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT, THAT THE CITY MANAGER EXPECTS FROM THEM AT LEAST WRITTEN DOWN, IT MAKES IT HARD TO ENFORCE OR TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING, OR WE'RE W WE'RE FORCING AS COUNSEL, IF, IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN IN SOME WAY.

RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THAT OR HAVE QUESTIONS, I GUESS FOR ME, IS IT JUST ALL OF THE CITY MANAGER COMES UP WITH OR SEE, SO THERE'S REALLY NO INTERNAL LIKE MANAGER POLICIES.

THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF LUXURY.

IT'S NOT A BUSINESS.

SO ANYTIME THERE ARE POLICY, THERE'S A POLICY OR A ROLE, UM, WHICH HAS CHANGED OR BECOMES NEW THAT I FEEL LIKE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THAT.

AND I LIKE TO SEE IT IN WRITING AND DISCUSS TO US.

USUALLY I JUST FIND THESE OUT THROUGH PROCEDURE.

LIKE IF I HAVE A MEETING, THEY SAY, OKAY, I NEED TO RECAP.

AND I'M LIKE, OH, OKAY, WELL, I'VE NEVER DONE THAT.

AND I'M NOT SAYING I DISAGREE WITH IT AT ALL.

I THINK, I THINK OUR CITY MANAGERS SHOULD BE UPDATED AND INVOLVED IN ALL THE MEETINGS WE HAVE.

THAT IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE SHOULD HAVE A POLICY OUTLINING FOR THE EMPLOYEES, WHAT IT IS EXPECTED OF THEM AFTER EVERY MEETING OR POLICY FOR YOU TO HAVE A POLICY.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

THE CITY SHOULD HAVE A POLICY, RIGHT.

SO IF IT'S EXPECTED THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO WRITE LIKE A DEBRIEFING, THEN THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF EXPLANATION OF WHAT THAT DEBRIEFING SHOULD CONSIST OF JUST TO ELIMINATE ANY KIND OF DISCRIMINATORY ISSUES IN THE FUTURE.

BECAUSE MAYBE WHAT ONE THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT ANOTHER THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S NOT THE, IF YOU TRIED TO SAY THAT POLICIES HAVE TO BE CREATED IN ORDER FOR DIRECTION TO BE GIVEN OR CHANGED, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT IS GOING TO GOING TO BE INAPPROPRIATE THING.

IT'S JUST, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO THE CITY MANAGER, NOT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES IN THE OPPOSITE.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE.

SO I CAN BE IN THE LOOP BECAUSE IF SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY HE GOES, FOR EXAMPLE, IF, IF STAFF IS NO LONGER, DIRECTORS ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED TO BE AT THE MEETINGS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT.

SO I CAN AT LEAST REQUEST FOR THEM TO BE HERE.

UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS A THING.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE BOTTOM LINE OF IT RIGHT THERE.

SO I'M BE IN THE LOOP.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY MANAGER INFORM YOU.

IF THE CITY MANAGER TELLS IT SOMEONE THAT TO GIVES DIRECTION FOR SOMEONE TO BE AT THE MEETING OR NOT AT THE MEETING.

SO THEN WHAT CONSTITUTES, I GUESS WHERE'S THE LINE DRAWN BETWEEN DIRECTION AND A POLICY.

SO IF THEY DON'T DO IT AND IT'S, IT'S A POLICY, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A CONSEQUENCE RIGHT.

MARY FROM HER CUSTOMERS.

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SO FOR ME, I GUESS THIS ONE GOES ALONG THE LINE OF, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE BRINGING UP AS VERY SPECIFIC TIME.

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO WHEN I LAST TALKED ABOUT THAT, THE END OF THE DAY, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN MICROMANAGING THE CITY MANAGER STAFF, THAT THAT IS CAN RESPECT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY MANAGER IS THE ONLY ONE ACCOUNTABLE TO US.

SO IF THERE'S INFORMATION THAT WE WANT TO GET, AND IF A DIRECTOR IS NOT HERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THAT'S ON THE CITY MANAGER TO BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT OR NOT.

AND IF HE FAILS TO ANSWER THAT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE HIS GENERAL HERE, THAT THAT'S ON HIM, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE ANSWER IS FROM HERE ARE ONE STAFF MEMBER.

SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE ARE DISAGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE GENERALS AND THE CEO OF OUR CITY, BUT ULTIMATELY HE'S THE ONE THAT MAKES THAT DECISION THAT HAPPENS IN THE COURSE OF EVERY BUSINESS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HEARD LAST COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT FOLKS BEING CONCERNED ABOUT MICROMANAGING, ALL OF THIS STUFF.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I FEEL LIKE THAT IS.

WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT IS RESPONSIBLE TO US AND WHAT WE WANT TO SEE THE OUTCOMES OF IF HE NEEDS HIS GENERALS HERE OR NOT TO DO THAT, THAT IS ON HIM.

THAT IS ULTIMATELY HIS RESPONSIBILITY.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE NUANCE OF CREATING POLICY OR DIRECTING THAT WE MUST KNOW EVERY TIME THE CITY MANAGER MAKES A DECISION ON HIS STAFF AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M OUTCOME ORIENTED.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER OUTCOME, THIS COUNCIL, THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL DIRECTS, THEY GET THAT FROM OUR CITY MANAGER.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THEM.

THAT IS HIS DECISION TO EITHER PASS OR FAIL.

THAT JUST BE CAREFUL COUNSEL.

I THINK I GET, WE WANT INFORMATION.

I GET, WE WANT IT AS MUCH DATA AND ANALYSIS AS WE CAN GET.

AND EVERY LITTLE THING, BUT ULTIMATELY THE ONLY POSITION THAT'S ACCOUNTABLE TO US TO GET IT RIGHT, IS THAT ONE.

SO LET'S JUST STICK WITH THAT.

AND IF THAT, THAT POSITION THAT YOU CAN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT, BUT A LITTLE PROFESSIONALISM HERE.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS THE COURSE IN WHICH THIS BODY IS CREATED AND THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND ALL OF THAT.

IT JUST BLOWS MY MIND THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO NUANCE INTO EVERY LITTLE POSITION IN EVERY LITTLE DECISION THAT THE CITY MANAGER MAKES AT THE ULTIMATE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WANTED THE CITY MANAGER TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO US AND WHAT ARE OUR OUTCOMES AND DIRECTION ARE.

AND SOMETIMES WE DO GET VERY SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON HOW TO DO THAT.

BUT MOST TIMES I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE BROAD DIRECTION ON HIM BEING ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WANT AS AN OUTCOME FOR OUR CITY.

THAT IS WHY WE ARE COUNSELED.

I'M SORRY.

YOU FEEL THAT WAY.

IT WOULD, THIS WAS NOT ABOUT MICROMANAGING.

THIS WAS ABOUT COMPLIANCE WITH POLICIES.

SO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LIKE MANAGING STAFF OR THIS HAS TO DO WITH AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT, UM, WITH, FOR WHATEVER REASON STAFF COMPLAINTS, BECAUSE, OR QUITS OR GETS FIRED.

AND THERE WAS A POLICY THAT THEY DID NOT FOLLOW THAT COUNCIL HAS TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE, IT WAS BEING ENFORCED AND IT WAS IN COMPLIANCE.

IF I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT, HOW AM I EXPECTED TO TAKE ANY ACTION? SO AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE IF YOU THINK THIS WAS MICRO-MANAGING, THE MANAGER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

IT WAS MORE ABOUT KNOWING WHAT OUR POLICIES ARE, SO I CAN DO MY JOB AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO ADD TO THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION? ALRIGHT.

EXECUTIVE

[IX.  Executive Session]

SESSION, I'LL READ IT OUT.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

DURING THIS MEETING CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5 51, THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING TOPICS PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF A CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.071 SOUTHWEST WATER COMPANY NEGOTIATION POSSIBLE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL ESTATE PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.07, TWO RIGHT AWAY, ACQUISITION VETERAN'S DRIVE PROPERTY ACQUISITION, UH, CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.08, SEVEN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE REGARDING THE OFFER OF ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO ONE OR MORE OF THE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE STAY OR EXPAND INTO NEAR THE CITY PROJECT ON THE TRACKS.