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[I. Call Meeting to Order]
THE TIME IS 7:04 PM.AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WOULD ALL.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MITCHELL BRAZEAU ELLISON FLORES, KALE HERE, BRADSHAW HERE, PARSLEY, TOBY.
ALL RIGHT, ALL MEMBERS PRESENT.
WE HAVE A QUORUM NEXT STEP, CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
MAYER.UH, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
IT'LL BE, UH, THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FOR JUNE THE SEVENTH, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FOR JUNE THE 21ST, THE MENDEZ FOR THE 25TH OF JUNE.
UH, SO CITY SPECIAL MEETING JULY 5TH AND REGULAR MEETINGS FOR JULY 5TH, 2022.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TOBIA SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
COMMENTS PERIOD.AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND, UM, UM, SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
I HAVE ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK, MS. VANESSA WESTBROOK.
MY NAME IS VANESSA WESTBROOK AND I AM THE TREASURER FOR THE HAYES COUNTY.
AND I'M GIVING YOU AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND AN INVITATION, UH, TOMORROW IS NATIONAL HOTDOG DAY.
IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT AND TO CELEBRATE, UM, NATIONAL HOTDOG DAY, THE NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS OF THE CHOANAS CHALLENGED ALL OF THEIR CLUBS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO DO SOMETHING, TO SUPPORT A HOT DOG DAY.
SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FREE HOT DOG LUNCH TOMORROW, AND EVERYONE IS INVITED, ESPECIALLY TO MAYOR, COUNCILMAN CITY, UH, CITY, UH, STAFF, TO COME OVER TO THE AMBIT BUILDING.
UH, THE COMPLEX IS LOCATED AT 4 0 1 VETERANS DRIVE, UH, VETERANS DRIVE.
UM, SO PLEASE COME AND JOIN US FROM 11 TO ONE TOMORROW FOR A FREE HOT DOG LUNCH.
WE WANT AS MANY PEOPLE TO COME OUT AS POSSIBLE.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SPONSORS OR THE ROTARY CLUB FROM THE AREA OF THE KYLE BUDA, UH, KIWANIS CLUB, THE VET GROUP, AND THE, THE LUX SETS CARWASH.
SO PLEASE COME JOIN US FOR LUNCH TOMORROW FROM 11 TO ONE AGAIN ON VENTURES DRIVE AT THE, THAT COMPLEX.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO PROPOSE TO MOVE ANY OF THE ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, JEN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN,
[7.
Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Acting City Manager
- Budget Workshops
- Road Bond Program Workshop - July 23
- South Central Regional Roundtable in Kyle - July 22
- Boards and Commissions Openings
- Dive In Movie - July 22
- Free Guided Trail Tours - July 23
- Bunton Bird Blind Ribbon Cutting - July 23
- Free Public Swim Day - July 24
- Music in the Park - July 25
- Stars At Night - July 30-31
- Pie in the Sky Day Celebration - Sept. 3
- Save the Date: Heroes Memorial Park Ribbon Cutting - Sept. 11
- Summer Reading Program
- Team Kyle Update
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, WELL, LET'S START OFF BY REMINDING YOU OF OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS.
OUR NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP IS NEXT THURSDAY ON THE 28TH WHERE WE'LL PRESENT THE CITY.
MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET FOR YOUR REVIEW AND COMMENT.
THE NEXT STEP IS THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM WORKSHOP THAT IS THIS SATURDAY, THE 23RD MEETING BEGINS AT EIGHT MOVING FORWARD.
I'D LIKE TO BRING, UH, VICTORIA VARGAS UP TO TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH CENTRAL REGIONAL ROUND TABLE.
HELLO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL VICTORIA VARGAS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, ON, ON THIS COMING FRIDAY, THE TEXAS DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION WILL BE HOSTING A REGIONAL ROUND TABLE HERE AT THE CREW CENTER.
SO THIS IS, UM, A NETWORKING OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY INVITE ALL OF THEIR MEMBERS TO.
AND WE ARE GOING TO SHOWCASE OUR DOWNTOWN, BUT MORE, WE WILL BE SHOWCASING WHAT OUR DOWNTOWN WILL BECOME IN THE FUTURE.
UM, IT WILL CONSIST OF THEY'LL START AT NINE O'CLOCK WITH WELCOME REMARKS BY OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, AND THEN WE'LL AMBER AND I WILL BE HOSTING A BRIEF DOWNTOWN WALKING TOUR FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES.
UM, SO, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, UM, TOMMY
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COASTS, CO-REC RICK FROM BG K ARCHITECTS DISCUSSING OUR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN WITH THE GROUP FOLLOWED BY BENITO FROM PARKS AND TRAILS, WHO WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS CITY'S TRAIL TRAIL SYSTEM.UH, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO, UM, THE CITY OF BERNIE IS ALSO JOINING THE PRESENTATION.
SO THERE'LL BE TALKING IN THE AFTERNOON.
UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, YOU CAN LET ME KNOW AND I CAN GET YOU REGISTERED.
NEXT UP IS RACHEL SAUDIA TO TALK ABOUT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OPENINGS, NO COUNSEL, RICHARD, SAM, YOU ENTER IN DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS.
SO OUR COUNCIL FOR, UH, OUR APPLICATIONS FOR BOARDS AND COMMITTEES IS OPEN UNTIL AUGUST 31ST, UH, TERMS WILL BEGIN ON OCTOBER 1ST.
WE HAVE CURRENTLY OPENINGS FOR THE, UH, ART COMMITTEE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING PARKS AND REC, AND OUR LIBRARY BOARD.
SO LOTS OF GREAT POSITIONS FOR LOTS OF GREAT PEOPLE.
UM, YEAH, AND IF YOU WANT TO APPLY, JUST GO TO CITY, KYLE.COM/BC.
NEXT STEP TO COVER JUST ABOUT, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE ON MY REPORT, OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, UM, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MARIANNA SPINOZA PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
SO WE HAVE A FUN WEEKEND COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, STARTING WITH FRIDAY, WE HAVE OUR DIVE IN MOVIE AT THE JAMES ATKINS POOL, STARTING AT SUNDOWN AND REGISTRATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
AND THEN SATURDAY MORNING, BRIGHT AND EARLY AT SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING, WE WILL START OUR GUIDED TRAIL TOURS.
THE TOURS WERE RUN FROM WATERLOO PARK TO LIKE KYLE PARK AND THEN AT 10 O'CLOCK, WE WILL HAVE THE OFFICIAL RIBBON CUTTING OF THE BUTTON, WILDFLOWER LOOP, UH, BIRD VIEWING STATION, WHICH WAS MADE POSSIBLE AS AN EAGLE SCOUT EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT FROM TROOP EIGHT 12.
AND THAT WILL BE AT 10 O'CLOCK THIS SATURDAY.
AND THEN ON SUNDAY, WE HAVE OUR JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH FREE SWIMMING AT THE JAMES ATKINS POOL BETWEEN 12 AND TWO.
AND THEN WE COME BACK WITH A REALLY FUN NIGHT.
WE HAVE OUR FINAL, UH, MUSIC IN THE PARK ON MONDAY FEATURING, UH, MOVING MELVIN BROWN.
HE IS AN INTERNATIONAL TAP DANCER AND SINGER WHO PERFORMED AT OUR MARKET DAY LAST YEAR.
AND BY POPULAR DEMAND, HE IS COMING BACK TO CLOSE OUT THE MONTH FOR US.
UM, AND THEN WRAPPING UP PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.
UH, NEXT WEEKEND, UH, JULY 30TH, JULY 31ST OR THE FINAL WEEKEND OF JULY IS OUR OVERNIGHT FAMILY CAMPING EVENTS, UH, STARS AT NIGHT AT LAKE KYLE PARK AND REGISTRATION FOR THAT IS ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE.
SO THAT WRAPS UP THOSE EVENTS.
AND THEN JUST A REMINDER FOR THE PIE IN THE SKY, SAVE THE DATE.
IT IS A ONE DAY EVENT THIS YEAR ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD, AND WE HAVE CONFIRMED THE ENTERTAINMENT SCHEDULE AS FAR AS BANDS GO.
SO FEATURING THIS YEAR IS ENTERTAINMENT SCHEDULE ARE THE BANDS OF BROKEN ARROW, LLC ROCKS ART, THE HEADY NIGHT, AND THE JUKEBOX PREACHERS.
THERE ARE GOMEZ AND THE BANDITS AND, UH, KYLE PARK WILL BE ON STAGE THIS YEAR AS WELL.
SO THAT SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 3RD, IT IS FREE TO THE PUBLIC TO GET IN.
UH, THE WEBSITE IS LOCATED ONLINE AT PINE, THE SKY.COM AND WE WILL UPDATE THE WEBSITE AS INFORMATION BECOMES AVAILABLE, ESPECIALLY AS THEY PERTAIN TO OUR PI RELATED ACTIVITIES.
UM, AND THEN OUR FINAL REMINDER IS FOR OUR RIBBON CUTTING EVENT ON SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH, IT WILL BE AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, NOT TENS WHAT'S NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
WE WILL CELEBRATE THE OPENING OF HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK AND MORE INFORMATION TO COME ON THAT AS WELL.
NEXT UP IS LIBRARY DIRECTOR PAUL FAILING TO TALK ABOUT OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM.
I'M PAUL FALLON DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.
SO WE'RE JUST ABOUT TO FINISH UP OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A FEW MORE COOL EVENTS COMING UP, BUT THE LAST OF THIS MONTH, UH, THIS THURSDAY, JULY 21ST AT 2:00 PM, WE HAVE THE JAPANESE ORIGAMI WITH JASU ISHIDA, AND THAT'S A VERY FUN PROGRAM THIS SATURDAY.
UH, THE PROGRAM WILL BE EXPLORED TIME AND SPACE LIKE DR.
WHO THAT WILL BE FROM 11 TO 1:00 PM, HAVE A DOCTOR WHO WATCHED PARTY VARIOUS CRAFTS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT FOR EVERYBODY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT ON THAT SAME DAY, OUR CARLA ASTRONOMY CLUB, WHICH IS A NEW CLUB THAT MEETS HERE IN TOWN, THAT'S SPONSORED BY THE LIBRARY.
SO THAT'S A 2:00 PM FOR ANYBODY THAT'S INTERESTED.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S BEEN WATCHING THE PHOTOGRAPHS COMING OUT FROM THE WEB TELESCOPE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THIS, UH, THIS GROUP MEETS AT 2:00 PM AND I'M SURE THAT BEFORE LONG THERE'LL BE SOME NIGHT VIEWINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT, SPONSORED BY THE LIBRARY.
THAT'S THE PLAN, UH, ON JULY 30TH, UH, THE
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WILL OUR CULMINATION PARTY, THE SABER GUILD, JOCK WHO TEMPLE WILL BE THERE FROM 11 TO ONE.AND THAT'S THE FOLKS THAT DRESS UP LIKE THE STAR WARS CHARACTERS AND COME OUT AND THE KIDS REALLY ENJOY THAT.
SO THERE'LL BE THERE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS DOING THAT.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE OUR TWO AND OTHER PEOPLE THERE AS WELL.
SO THE KIDS REALLY LIKE THAT NOW TO GIVE YOU SOME SENSE, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THESE NUMBERS THIS YEAR, LAST YEAR.
I MEAN, THINK WE HAD ABOUT 161 PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM.
SO IT WAS PRETTY DISMAL THIS YEAR, WE'VE GOT 524 SIGNED UP SO FAR AND IT'S GROWING.
YOU KNOW, WE STILL, WE'RE STILL HAVING PEOPLE THAT AND 166,979 MINUTES HAVE BEEN READ DURING THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM.
AND WE'RE JUST SOUTH OF 2200 PEOPLE IN OUR PROGRAMS IN JUNE.
SO THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY JULY, BUT IN JUNE.
SO WE'VE HAD VERY GOOD TURNOUT AND I IT'S GOOD NEWS.
I THINK THE PANDEMIC'S OVER AND PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK TO THE LIBRARY.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY MAYBE WE SHOULD GET A, HAVE LIKE A FEW DOZEN QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ASK HIM AND JUST KEEP HIM UP HERE FOR AWHILE.
SO SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT PAUL'S RETIRED AND HE'S LEAVING US TO GO PURSUE HIS PASSION TO TEACH SCHOOL IN SAN ANTONIO.
PAUL'S BEEN HERE FOR SIX YEARS AND, UM, I REMEMBER INTERVIEWING PAUL AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR OUR NEXT LIBRARY DIRECTOR.
AND PAUL WAS THE LAST ONE THAT WE INTERVIEWED OUT OF THAT BASKET OF PEOPLE.
AND BEFORE WE INTERVIEWED PAUL, WE WERE LIKE, HOLY CRAP, WE DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES.
SO THEN CAME PAUL, AND BY THE TIME WE GOT DONE INTERVIEWING PAUL HALF, THE PEOPLE IN THE INTERVIEW PANEL SAID, I'D GO WORK FOR THAT GUY.
AND, AND IT'S JUST BEEN ALL GREAT THINGS SINCE THEN.
UM, I THINK THE BEST THING THAT PAUL HAS DONE OR THE MOST NOTABLE THING PAUL HAS DONE IS TEST ALL NEW PROGRAMS THAT HAVE COME TO THE LIBRARY.
WE TASKED PAUL WITH CREATING THE LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE.
AND I THINK EVERY DAY, THE FUTURE JESSICA GETS CLOSER AND CLOSER AND CLOSER, AND HE HAS LED HIS STAFF.
HE'S, HE'S BUILT A VERY COMPETENT STAFF THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ON BEFORE, BUT I'LL PUT OUR LIBRARY AND OUR STAFF UP AGAINST ANYBODY'S AND, AND PAUL IS THE REASON FOR THAT IN ADDITION TO BEING A GREAT LIBRARY DIRECTOR, PAUL LOGISTICAL TOO.
HAVE YOU EVER, UH, ALWAYS REFERRED TO HIM AS THE COOLEST LIBRARY DIRECTOR IN TEXAS? CAUSE HOW MANY LIGHTS ARE LIBRARY DIRECTORS WILL DRIVE UP IN THEIR HARLEY LOW RIDER KIND OF THING, WEARING A LEATHER JACKET AND SHADES WITH NO HELMET WHEN HAIR JUST PULLED BACK.
SO, SO PAUL, THIS IS YOUR LAST MEETING.
I WANT TO SAY PERSONALLY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND I'M GONNA TURN YOU LOOSE TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, I JUST TO SAY THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE SAD TO GO.
I THINK THERE, YOU KNOW, THIS TOWN IS RIGHT ON THE CUSP OF, OF JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT THE NEW LIBRARY AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE COOLEST LIBRARY THAT'S EVER BEEN BUILT.
AND I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP ON THIS COUNCIL AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT JOURNEY, BUT FOR ME, AS MUCH AS I'M SAD TO LEAVE THAT BEHIND AND MY STAFF AND A CITY THAT I'VE ENJOYED, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I STARTED OUT THIS LIFE AS A TEACHER, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT I'LL BE DOING.
I'LL BE TEACHING AT THE ASTRADA ACHIEVEMENT CENTER, WHICH IS THE ALTERNATIVE SCHOOL IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND, UH, I'LL BE STARTING THERE ON APRIL 9TH OR WHATEVER, APRIL 11TH, PERHAPS.
SO I'LL BE GETTING BACK TO DOING THAT AND MAYBE GIVING SOMETHING BACK A LITTLE BIT TO THE COMMUNITY, HOPEFULLY.
SO, BUT ANYWAY, I KNOW THIS LIBRARY WILL BE IN GOOD HANDS WITH OUR GREAT STAFF AND I KNOW THIS COUNCIL IS GETTING READY TO DO SOME GREAT THINGS.
SO I'M GOING TO BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT.
AND I, I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.
I JUST WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE YEARS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN OUR CITY.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE ACHIEVED IN THE SHORT TIME YOU'VE BEEN HERE SIX YEARS AND I WISH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 10 JUST SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND FOR THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU SHOWED AT THE LIBRARY, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE TRULY MISSED.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, FROM BALTIMORE HEART, I'M GONNA MISS YOU BUDDY.
AND IT WAS PRETTY COOL TO GO TO OTHER CITIES AND SAY, WHAT'S YOUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR GOT MINE SHOWS UP IN HIS LEATHER JACKET AND SUNGLASSES.
I'VE RIDDEN MY MOTORCYCLE OVER TO YOUR HOUSE BEFORE.
I THINK, I THINK I REMEMBER THAT.
AND IF NOT BAD ENOUGH, WE'RE LOSING PAUL JAMES.
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SO I MAY OR MAY NOT.I MAY OR MAY NOT GET EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS ONE.
SO JAMES GOT HERE EXACTLY ONE WEEK AFTER I'D HAD ALMOST 16 YEARS AGO.
AND WE'RE LOSING A GREAT ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OUR STAFF AND EVERYTHING KYLE'S STANDS FOR HIM.
THAT'S MY MEMORY REALLY SUCKS.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT I HAD FOR BREAKFAST.
I HAD SOME PEOPLE HELP ME WRITE DOWN SOME OF ITS ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THIS MAY TAKE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
HE LED THE FIRST EVER MEET AND CONFER NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND THE POLICE ASSOCIATION.
HE SERVED AS A APPOINTMENT TO THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT BOARD.
HE SERVED AS THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS THE LEAD FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DRAFTED OUR FIRST EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN LED RESPONSE TO THE MULTIPLE FLOOD EVENTS, DRAFTED SEVERAL ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT, HELP FOSTER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, DESIGN, AND OVERSAW THE REMODEL PROJECT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT ONE 11 NORTH FRONT STREET HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN DESIGNING THE NEW, HELPING TO DESIGN THE NEW POLICE STATION.
HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN ORCHID ORCHESTRA AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY INSTRUMENTAL IN THE FORESIGHT TO BRING IN A PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO REVAMP PUBLIC WORKS.
AND JAMES AND I STARTED HERE AT PUBLIC WORKS.
HAD I THINK ABOUT FOUR EMPLOYEES.
IS THAT RIGHT, JAMES? THIS IS THE FOUR THAT WE'RE PROBABLY WORKING REALLY HARD AT THE TIME.
AND I REMEMBER OUR FIRST DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING SITTING HERE IN THE FALCON ROOM, LOOKING OUT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AT THE TIME JIMMY
SO WE'VE COME A LONG WAY SINCE THEN, UM, CREATION OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOP DEPARTMENT AND THE STAFFING CREATED IN-HOUSE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND STAFFING IMPLEMENTED THE ONE-STOP SHOP FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WORKED WITH DEVELOPERS AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT TO MANY, AN ACCOUNT PROBLEM-SOLVER IN ANY SITUATION.
ANY OF Y'ALL PROBABLY KNOW IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS, YOU COME TO JAMES HIT, HE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP YOU WITH IT.
HIS INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IN OUR CITY IS SECOND TO NONE AND QUIETLY RESOLVES CONFLICTS WITH CITIZENS.
THE STAFF SERVES ON THE CITY MANAGERS OF TOMORROW COMMITTEE AND PROBABLY WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN STARTING THAT ACTIVE AND TCMH SERVICE ON PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEES, A MENTOR TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S JAMES IN A NUTSHELL AND IT DOESN'T DO HIM JUSTICE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU, BUDDY.
UH, I'LL ACTUALLY ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.
JAMES I'VE TOLD, TOLD THIS STORY A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT JAMES, BUT YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER IT'S BEEN A LITTLE OVER SIX YEARS AGO NOW THAT I FIRST ACTUALLY IT'S NINE YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST MET JAMES, UH, HE RESOLVED A CONFLICT IN MY BUSINESS THAT I WAS DEALING WITH AS I WAS TRYING TO GET OPEN AND HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR HIM.
UM, I, I MIGHT'VE LOST MY HAIR EVEN FASTER.
UM, SO I WAS ALWAYS APPRECIATIVE OF THE WAY THAT YOU INTERACTED WITH ME AS I WAS STARTING A NEW BUSINESS, BUT MORE, MORE SO THAN THAT, YOU, YOU IMPARTED IN ME THE, UH, THE BELIEF THAT CONSISTENT LEADERSHIP IS IMPORTANT IN A COMMUNITY.
AND YOU CERTAINLY PROVIDED THAT TO THIS, UH, CITY, UH, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS CONSISTENT, UH, LEADERSHIP.
AND SO I TH I THINK THOSE ARE ADJECTIVES THAT DESCRIBE YOU VERY WELL.
AND SO, UH, I THINK THE CITY OF HUDDLE IS GETTING AN ASSET WITH YOU AND, AND WE, I CERTAINLY WISH YOU THE BEST I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU PRIVATELY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, THEY'RE THE BIG SHOES WHEN YOU STEP INTO THE TOP ROLE, IT'S A LOT MORE INTENSE.
UH, YOU'VE SEEN THAT THOUGH THROUGH THE YEARS.
AND SO YOU'RE NOT STEPPING INTO SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT VERY AWARE OF WHAT, UH, WHAT'S COMING.
AND SO, UM, I, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE JUST WHAT, JUST WHAT HUDDLE NEEDS.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY.
THEY MIGHT HAVE ANY THING THEY WANT TO ADD, WHICH IS, I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU, JAMES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, TAKING ALL THOSE LATE NIGHT CALLS WHEN I WAS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, TRYING TO LEARN MY JOB.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS BEING AVAILABLE.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME GROW AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT AS WELL, AND, UH, JULIE GONNA BE MISSED AND YEAH, I WAS GETTING GRADED ON ASSETS, SO, UH, WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND GODSPEED AS WELL.
THANK YOU AS CASPER FLOORS KILL.
SO I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU ABOUT A MILLION TIMES ABOUT HOW MUCH I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.
UM, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, UM, DISAGREEING WITH ME AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ME IN MY PLACE AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TELL YOU, UM,
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SOME THINGS ABOUT YOU THAT I THINK THAT, THAT HOPEFULLY HELP YOU GROW AS A LEADER.UM, I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM OUR CONVERSATIONS OVERALL AND NOT JUST ABOUT THE CITY, BUT SPIRITUALLY AND NOT BEING AFRAID TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND TO BE THE GOOD PERSON THAT WE ARE.
UM, I'VE ALSO LEARNED THAT I REALLY WISH YOU COULD HAVE STAYED HERE.
I WISH YOU COULD HAVE GROWN WITH KYLE AND I'M SUPER JEALOUS OF HADOW.
UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, I'M ALSO REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU WHENEVER I WANT AND DEVELOP A DEEPER RELATIONSHIP, UM, AND TO HAVE A DINNER AND TALK ABOUT STUFF OTHER THAN THE CITY.
SO, UM, I WISH YOU ALL THE SEVENS IN THE WORLD AND YOU DESERVE EVERY GOOD THING THAT'S GOING TO COME TO YOU.
SO I WAS VERY SURPRISED WHEN I SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU TODAY AND HE JUST WENT BACK LIKE, NO, HE'S BASICALLY OUT OF THE OFFICE.
AND I'M LIKE, I WAS ABOUT TO MESSAGE JERRY AND SAY, ARE WE DOING ANYTHING FOR JAMES, LIKE FAREWELL OR SOMETHING? SO I'M LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.
AND I AM INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID FOR ME.
UM, WALKING ME THROUGH PROCESS, EXPLAINING THINGS LIKE IT MUST, I'M A SECOND GRADER.
UM, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT BEING AT A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER AND NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING, YOU WERE AN AMAZING HELP.
SO I REALLY WISH YOU THE BEST.
UM, I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COME BACK TO KYLE AT SOME POINT, UM, AND I'M NOT GONNA LET ANYBODY SELL YOUR HOUSE.
JUST SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY, JAMES.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE JERRY, IT'S REALLY HARD TO REFLECT BACK ON 16 YEARS AND NOT GET TOO TERRIBLY EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT, BUT ALL OF THE SUCCESSES, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME, THEY'VE ALL COME BECAUSE OF THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE WONDERFUL STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITIZENS THAT WE HAVE, I FEEL VERY WELL PREPARED FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER IN MY LIFE AND A GREAT DEAL OF THAT.
SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE I'M LEAVING THE ORGANIZATION IN GOOD HANDS AND JERRY, AND I JUST WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR KIND WORDS AND LETTING ME FEEL, UM, JUST FEEL LOVED AS I'M ON MY WAY INTO THIS NEXT CHAPTER.
[8. BGK Architects Presentation regarding Downtown Masterplan Survey Results. ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Planning Director]
NUMBER EIGHT.DGK ARCHITECTS PRESENTATION REGARDING DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN SURVEY RESULTS.
WELL, I CAN SEND INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.
UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE, UM, PERFORMED BY, UH, UH, TOMMY, UH NARCIS AND MCKAYLA FROM BJ ARCHITECTS.
THEY ARE ONLINE AND, UM, I HANDED OVER Y'ALL.
ALRIGHTY, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES, SIR.
WELL, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL.
WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO VISIT WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT, UM, OUR FINDINGS FROM OUR PUBLIC, UH, EVENTS AND ENGAGEMENTS FROM ALL THE QUESTIONNAIRE RESPONSES AND THINGS WE RECEIVED.
I'M TOMMY CASARC WITH DGK ARCHITECTS AND WITH ME IS MCKAYLA PONCE, AND NARCISSE HOMES, BOTH, UH, WITH ME FROM BUK, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF OUR, UH, PLANNING WORK THAT WE'RE ALSO HELPING YOU, YOU ALL WITH FOR THE PAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT WITH MUCH ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY CITY STAFF.
THEY'VE BEEN SUPER HELPFUL IN HELPING US, HELPING US TO GET THESE, SOME OF THESE EVENTS AND, AND THINGS ORGANIZED, SUPER, SUPER HELPFUL.
SO THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, IN OUR WORK WE BELIEVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS AN INVOLVING STAKEHOLDERS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR ACHIEVING CONSENSUS AND BUY-IN, YOU KNOW, SO THEY, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY HAS A SENSE OF OWNERSHIP.
AND AS WE RECEIVE AND GET ALL THIS EXTRA INPUT, UM, IT'S GOING TO JUST HELP AND GUIDE AND HELP THE STUDENT TO MAKE THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE, UH, GUIDELINES AND A MASTER PLAN EVEN BETTER.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO MIKAYLA AND NARCIS TO TAKE US THROUGH, UH, OUR FINDINGS.
HI, SO, UM, I'M MIKAYLA PONCE, I'M AN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNER AT BG K OR BDK ARCHITECTS, AND I'M NARCISSE HOLMES AND I'M AN INTERN.
AND SO, UM, YEAH, I GUESS, UM, DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE THE SCREEN? OH, SWEET.
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YEAH.AND SO THIS IS A PRESENTATION THAT WE PUT TOGETHER REGARDING THE RESULTS THAT WE GOT FROM THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT QUESTIONNAIRE THAT, UM, WE, THAT WE HOSTED AND, UM, SHARED WITH THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE.
AND SO WE KICKED OFF THE LAUNCH OF THIS, UM, ONLINE QUESTIONNAIRE WITH THE EARTH DAY EVENT THAT PARKS AND REC PUT ON, UM, HANDING OUT FREE PLANS TO RESIDENTS AT THE MARY PILE HEARTS AND PARK.
AND WE DECIDED THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH RESIDENTS AND, UM, START GETTING, UM, IN TOUCH WITH THEM REGARDING THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND REALLY GETTING TO HEAR FROM THEM ON A ONE-ON-ONE BASIS ON WHAT KINDS OF THINGS THEY LIKE ABOUT DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW AND WHAT SORTS OF THINGS THEY LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO WE HAD, UM, THREE BOARDS, UM, THAT WE WERE SORT OF SHOWING RESIDENTS THE ONE REGARDING THE HISTORY OF KYLE, UM, ONE REGARDING PLACES THAT WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, PLACES THAT COULD BE IN DOWNTOWN KYLE.
AND THEN ANOTHER GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND WITH A QR CODE, UM, TO THE SURVEY LINK.
UM, IN OUR NEXT EVENT THAT WE HAD, UM, WAS THE MOVIE NIGHT.
THAT'S WHEN WE WENT OUT, WHEN THE KIDS WERE WATCHING JUMANJI IN THE PARK.
AND DURING THAT, UH, WE JUST HAD TWO BOARDS UP WHERE KIDS WERE ABLE TO TELL US WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE IN KYLE AND WHAT THEY ALREADY LOVE ABOUT KYLE.
UM, PARTICULARLY IN DOWNTOWN, AS YOU COULD SEE, DOG KONA WAS THERE, WHO WAS A REALLY BIG HELP IN BRINGING IN THE KIDS.
UM, AND THEN IT WAS OVERALL REALLY GREAT EXPERIENCE TO HEAR WHAT THE KIDS REALLY WANTED TO SEE.
AND SO, UM, I GUESS REGARDING THE QUESTIONNAIRE METHODOLOGY, SO, UM, THE QUESTIONNAIRE WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON APRIL 22ND AND, UM, REMAINED OPEN THROUGH JUNE 8TH.
UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF LAST MONTH.
AND SO, UM, LINKS TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE WERE POSTED ON THE CITY OF KYLE WEBSITE, AS WELL AS, UM, CITY OF KYLE SOCIAL MEDIA, LIKE INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK.
AND, UM, IT WAS A QUESTIONNAIRE HOSTED ON SURVEY MONKEY WITH 21 QUESTIONS AND WAS, UM, AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WITH THE LINK.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE WORD OUT DURING BIRTHDAY EVENT AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THE, UM, MOVIE NIGHT ACTUALLY SERVED AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER KIDS WHO MAY NOT, UM, INTERFACE WITH THE QUESTIONNAIRE QUITE AS EASILY AS TEENAGERS AND ADULTS COULD STILL GET THEIR, UM, YOU KNOW, OPINIONS HEARD AND GET TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET TO TELL US WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WANT DOWNTOWN YEAH.
AND SO, UM, REGARDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE WHO TOOK THE, UM, QUESTIONNAIRE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T ASK TOO MANY DEMOGRAPHICS QUESTIONS, BUT WE DID WANT TO GET, UM, A GENERAL SENSE OF WHO WAS RESPONDING TO THE SURVEY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS WERE ADULTS OVER THE AGE OF, UM, 25.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO GET A SENSE OF, UM, HOW LONG RESPONDENTS HAD LIVED IN KYLE.
AND SO OF COURSE, A GOOD NUMBER, UM, HAVE BEEN IN KYLE FOR MANY YEARS, 10 TO 25 YEARS.
UM, BUT THEN, UM, A DECENT CHUNK AROUND A QUARTER OF RESPONDENTS HAVE ALSO JUST MOVED TO KYLE.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS REALLY HELPS, UM, TO KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW TO KYLE AND WHO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, SEEKING NEW THINGS OR GETTING A SENSE OF THE CITY.
AND THEN OF COURSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE CALLED KYLE HOME FOR, UM, A LONG TIME.
AND THEN, UM, ADDITIONALLY, WE ALSO ASKED WHAT TIME OF DAY DO YOU VISIT DOWNTOWN KYLE? JUST SO WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHAT KINDS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES AND PLACES THAT MIGHT WORK VERY WELL DOWNTOWN BASED ON WHEN PEOPLE ARE ALREADY VISITING IT NOWADAYS.
AND THEN THE NEXT SET OF QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ASKING HOW OFTEN PEOPLE VISIT DOWNTOWN AND WHY.
UH, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST RESPONDENTS ONLY VISIT DOWNTOWN ABOUT LESS THAN ONCE A MONTH.
UM, BUT IN CONTRAST, THEY ONLY LIVE ABOUT ONE TO FIVE MILES AWAY.
THOSE ARE TWO MAJOR RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE IN VISITING DOWNTOWN WAS THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES FROM THIS.
WE WERE ABLE TO CONCLUDE THAT EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE RELATIVELY CLOSE
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TO DOWNTOWN, THE REASONS WHY THEY AREN'T VISITING IS BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ONSITE AND THEN MOVING ON IN THE QUESTIONNAIRE, WE DID ASK A VARIETY OF QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT 20, JUST SO THAT WE COULD GET A CONCISE ANSWER OF WHAT RESIDENTS OF DOWNTOWN REALLY FELT.UM, THERE WASN'T JUST ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS SAYING, WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT IT AND WHAT YOU DON'T? UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF CATEGORIES FOR PEOPLE TO TRULY GIVE THEIR INPUT ON THE SUBJECT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SAW ABOUT WITH IT, THESE ARE SOME OF THE, I GUESS, UM, SOME OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS THAT WE, UM, WE BELIEVE IN THE SURVEY THAT REALLY SH SHOWN SOME LIGHT ON PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS REGARDING DOWNTOWN KYLE.
AND SO, UM, A MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS STATED THAT, UM, DOWNTOWN KYLE DOESN'T HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE SCALE WAS, UM, ON ONE TO 10 WITH ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING SORT OF A LOW RATING ATTENDING A HIGHER RATING.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF GIVES A SENSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING, UM, WITH THE SECOND QUESTION, THE MAJORITY STATED, OR MAJORITY RESPONDENTS STATED THAT COUNTDOWN KYLE NEEDS TO BE BIGGER.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME, KYLE ISN'T FAMILY FRIENDLY, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT SEVERAL RESPONDENTS, UM, WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE THERE AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, A GOOD NUMBER WHERE, UM, WE'RE SAYING THAT IT ISN'T FAMILY FRIENDLY.
SO, UM, THESE WERE VERY HELPFUL FOR, UM, FOR US TO KNOW MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO, UM, WE ALSO GAVE RESPONDENTS THE, UM, THE OPTION TO WRITE IN, UM, UM, WE GAVE THEM THE OPTION FOR WRITING QUESTIONS.
AND SO, AS YOU ALL SAW ON THE EARLIER SLIDE, THERE WERE, UM, SEVERAL MULTIPLE CHOICE OR RATING QUESTIONS, BUT THEN, UM, THEY WERE A FEW QUESTIONS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, RESPONDENTS HAD JUST AN OPEN COMMENT BOX, SO THEY COULD, UM, TELL US WHAT KINDS OF THINGS THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IN DOWNTOWN KYLE.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VAST MAJORITY SAID THAT THEY WANT TO SEE SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN KYLE, UM, A SMALLER NUMBER, BUT STILL MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS THAT THEY WANT UNIQUE RESTAURANTS DOWNTOWN, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, LESS RESPONSE, BUT STILL A GOOD NUMBER SO THAT THEY WANT OUTDOOR SEATING, UH, BAKERY.
UM, THEY WANT BETTER PARKING DOWNTOWN.
UM, THEY WANT A GIFT SHOP IN ANTIQUE SHOP.
AND THEN, UM, THEY ACTUALLY MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY WAS LIKE A TRADER JOE'S DOWNTOWN.
SO I KNOW THAT SOME RESPONDENTS WERE SAYING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT A LOCAL FEELING GROCERY STORE DOWNTOWN THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT, YOU KNOW, A DEPARTMENT STORE LIKE HEB OR WALMART, BUT THAT THEY'D LIKE SORT OF A SMALLER GROCERY STORE DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN, UM, SOME RESPONDENTS, ESPECIALLY, UM, PEOPLE WITH KIDS OR KIDS THEMSELVES.
SO THEY WANTED AN ICE CREAM AND FROZEN YOGURT SHOP TO COOL OFF WITH AND THEN WE ALSO ASKED RESIDENTS TO WRITE IN THINGS THAT THEY LIKE ABOUT DOWNTOWN KYLE.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF RESPONSES TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT THE HOLIDAY LIGHTS ARE.
UM, IN A LOT OF PEOPLE ALSO RESPONDED HOW THEY'RE USING THE PARK, OFTEN THE MARRIOTT, UH, KYLE HERTZ, HIM PARK, AND THEN THE RAILHOUSE BAR AND THE PIE SHOP, UM, ARE BOTH BIG STAPLES IN KYLE THAT PEOPLE REALLY LOVE YEAH.
AND SO, UM, THIS QUESTION PROMPTED PEOPLE TO THINK OF, UM, SORT OF OTHER INSTALLATIONS AND, UM, THINGS MAYBE OUTSIDE OF BUSINESSES PER SE, THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE DOWNTOWN.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAID THEY WANTED TO SEE PUBLIC ART AND MURALS AND SUCH TO SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, GET LOCAL ARTISTS INVOLVED AND THE CITY'S AESTHETIC, UM, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT THEY WANT CHILDREN'S MUSEUM OR INDOOR PLAY AREA FOR KIDS.
UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT A BOOKSTORE OR A HARDWARE STORE, YOU KNOW, LOCALLY OWNED WOULD BE A FANTASTIC ADDITION.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF RESPONDENTS WERE SAYING THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT, UM, YOU KNOW, A BAR DOWNTOWN PER SE, BUT THEY WOULD LOVE SOMETHING LIKE A LOCAL CRAFT BREWERY, JUST BECAUSE THAT WOULD SORT OF FOSTER A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND HAVE A
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REALLY NICE, UM, OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN MEET UP.UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, UM, PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY KIDS AT THE MOVIE NIGHT EVENT AND, UM, AND SOME OF THE WRITING RESULTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY WANT, UM, SORT OF A WATER FEATURE TO BE ABLE TO COOL OFF WITH, UM, DURING THE SUMMER, ESPECIALLY AFTER PLAYING IN THE PARK.
AND SO THAT WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NOTED IN BOTH THE QUESTIONNAIRE AND, UM, IN THE MOVIE NIGHT RESPONSES.
UM, SO MOVING ON AND DOING A MORE IN DEPTH LOOK OF THE MOVIE NIGHT RESPONSES, AS YOU COULD SEE, THE THREE COLORS REPRESENT DIFFERENT AGES.
UM, SO THE GREEN COLOR REPRESENTS THE ZERO TO FIVE AGE RANGE.
YELLOW IS FOR SIX TO 11 AND PURPLE IS FOR 12 PLUS, AS YOU COULD SEE, THE MAJOR RESPONSE THAT WE GOT WAS A WATERPARK THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT WAS A HUNDRED DEGREES, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE FAVORITE.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT CHILDREN WERE INTERESTED IN.
THEY WANTED DOG PARKS, UH, TRAMPOLINE AREAS, ICE CREAM SHOPS, COTTON CANDY SHOPS, BASKETBALL COURTS, THE OVERALL CONSENSUS WAS THAT CHILDREN JUST WANTED A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO HANG OUT, UM, AND HAVE FUN OUTSIDE IN AN ENVIRONMENT.
AND THAT WAS WHAT A LOT OF OUR RESPONSES WAS TELLING US.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR TAKEAWAYS THAT WE GOT FROM ALL THIS IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, CO RESIDENTS WANT MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY PLACES, UM, YOU KNOW, PARENTS AND KIDS LIKE WANT MORE PLACES THAT THEY CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, INTERACT WITH AND SPEND TIME WITH, UM, THEIR FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO WANT UNIQUE SHOPS IN DOWNTOWN KYLE THAT REALLY MAKES IT FEEL LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, A DESTINATION LIKE ITS OWN PLACE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ALREADY LOVE SORT OF THE CHARM AND CHARACTER OF DOWNTOWN KYLE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY JUST WANT THAT TO BE, UM, SORT OF ENCOURAGED AND CELEBRATED, UM, IN ANY WORK GOING FORWARD ON DOWNTOWN KYLE.
UM, AND THEN I SUCCEED KIND OF MAKES A COMEBACK FOR OUR FINAL SLIDE TO TELL US KIND OF THE FINAL THOUGHTS THAT WE'RE REALLY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE MASTER PLAN.
UM, SO RESIDENTS WANT BETTER PARKING.
THEY WANT A GROCERY STORE, THEY WANT MORE RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS.
UM, THEY WANT MORE RESIDENTIAL DOWNTOWN, AND THEY ALSO JUST WANT A MORE WALKABLE STREETSCAPE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD WALK AROUND DOWNTOWN AND ENJOY IT.
ANYONE ON COUNCIL WANT TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK OR COMMENTARY CUSTOMER FIRST COUNT? THANK YOU.
UM, THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND I, UM, I THINK IT WAS PRETTY SPOT ON, UM, BUT MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, I SEE THAT THERE WAS A WANT FOR SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES.
UM, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAD A CATEGORY FOR GIFT SHOP.
SO GOING BACK TO THE SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES, DO WE KNOW WHICH TYPE OF SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE LOOKING FOR? UM, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
UM, YEAH, SO ACTUALLY ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS, UM, WAS A, UM, MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION WHERE YOU COULD SELECT, UM, SORT OF AS MANY DIFFERENT BUSINESSES AS YOU WANTED TO SEE DOWNTOWN.
AND, UM, IT HAD LIKE, I THINK 12 TO 15 CHOICES.
IT WAS A LOT, UM, THAT BRANDED FROM ARTS AND CRAFT STORES TO A GIFT SHOP, TO, UM, BOUTIQUE STORES TO, UM, LIKE A GYM.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, ALL OF THAT DATA IN A, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION AS WELL AS A PACKET THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO THE CITY.
AND SO, UM, THE GIFT SHOP IN ANTIQUE SHOP JUST HAD, UM, A LOT OF VOTES PUT TOWARDS IT, BUT THERE WERE ACTUALLY QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT KINDS OF BUSINESSES THAT PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN.
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, THAT THE ONES WE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED GOT GOT THE MOST, BUT JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE ITEMS GOT SOME AMOUNT OF, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS OR THAT, YOU KNOW.
MA'AM ANYONE ELSE MAY PRETEND? YEAH, I WOULD AGREE.
THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.
CAN WE GET THIS PRESENTATION SENT OUT TO COUNCIL PLEASE? OF COURSE.
UH, I WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE NUMBER OF RESPONDENTS THAT WERE, UH, THAT APPRECIATED OUR CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S BEEN A BIG OH YEAH.
UH, THEY, THEY LOVE THE, THE HOLIDAY FESTIVITIES AND ALL THAT.
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YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT SOMEHOW, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY KNOW HOW THEY, THEY LOVE THAT PARK SO MUCH.WE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE NEW ARCH AND PARK RIGHT.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST VERY BELOVED BY THE, BY THE COMMUNITY, THE FOLKS WE TALKED TO.
SO, YEAH, IT'S HARD TO FIND A TIME IN THE DAY WHEN THAT PART DOESN'T HAVE VISITORS, EVEN WHEN IT'S A HUNDRED DEGREES OUTSIDE, THERE ARE STILL VISITORS BECAUSE OF HOW WELL SHADED IT IS AND HOW ACTIVATED THE SPACES.
IT'S REALLY ENCOURAGED ACTUALLY, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH WE CAN BUILD ON IT.
[9. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
NEXT UP, UH, CFP ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.MAYOR AND COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
FIRST STEP HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK.
UH, THE PORCELAIN IS COMPLETE.
THE GRANITE IS NEAR COMPLETION.
UH, THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE LANDSCAPE AND PLANNING AND GRANITE PAVERS NEAR THE NEAR COMPLETION OF THE EVENT.
THEY'RE WATER PROOFING, SOME STRUCTURES AROUND THE AREA, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT LATER THIS MONTH, THE BED OF THE PARK, UH, WHERE AT 61% COMPLETION ON PLAYGROUNDS IS 90% COMPLETE SIDEWALKS AND HARDSCAPING IS ONGOING.
THE DECKING AND ROOFING AT THE BELIEF STRUCTURE IS IN PROGRESS.
INSTALLATION OF THE IRRIGATION IS IN PROGRESS.
A VOLLEYBALL COURT, UH, CONCRETE IS IN PROGRESS.
UH, THEY'RE EXCAVATING FOR THE FOOTER AT THE PAVILION IN THE THAT'S IN PROGRESS.
UH, WE'RE DOING THE ELECTRICAL ROUGH-IN AT PAVILION RESTROOMS, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO COMPLETE THIS LATE 2022 PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, 44% COMPLETE TRANSFORMER SET.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE ENTRY COLUMNS, UH, FRAMING, UH, APPARENTLY POURING THE CONCRETE POURS CONCRETE PARKING THAT'S THERE.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE MASONRY INSTALLATION ON PHASE ONE AND FOUR.
UH, THEY'RE INSTALLED THE ROOF MORAINE ON PHASE TWO AND THREE.
UH, SECOND FOR THE WORK NOW IN THE MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING, ROUGH N SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE.
THAT'S FEBRUARY 6TH, 2023 SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
WE WERE HOPING TO AS CONTRACTOR WOULD BE ABLE TO START A PROJECT THERE TO WRAP UP THAT LAST SECTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF IT.
IT'S DRIVING, UH, POST DROUGHT, APPARENTLY THERE'S SUBCONTRACTORS HAVING PROBLEM GETTING BARRIERS.
SO WE COULD BLOCK OFF THAT LANE, THAT FRONTAGE ROAD LANE, THAT TEXTS THAT'S APPROVED.
UH, THIS AFTERNOON, WE DID FIND SOME, UH, BARRIERS THAT THERE'LL BE ABLE TO SET UP.
SO WE HAVE TO START THAT PROJECT AND WRAP IT UP WITH WATER TREATMENT EXPANSION PROJECT.
UH, THE DE-WATER FACILITY IS 44% COMPLETE.
UH, THEY POURED THE CONCRETE SLAB ON JULY THE 12TH AND 13TH, UH, SHOULD HAVE THAT COMPLETE BY AUGUST OF 2022.
UH, THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE BULLS-EYE PLANT.
UH, THEY'RE IN, THEY'RE STILL CLEANING IT UP.
AND THE OPERATIONS BUILDING HAS RECEIVED THE T TCL, THE TEMPORARY OCCUPANCY PERMIT.
THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF OREGON IT'S GOING ON THERE.
UH, IT REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE THAT A LOW-IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FEATURE THAT'S FINISHED ALL IN THAT PROJECT, ELLIOT BRANCH INTERCEPTOR, THIS PROJECT SPENT 68% COMPLETE, UH, THE ROAD CLOSURES CONTINUE.
ALL THE TEST RESULTS HAVE PASSED.
SO OUR NEW WATER MAINS THAT WE PLACED, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUT IN SERVICE THIS WEEK AND CONNECTIONS WILL BE MADE NEXT WEEK.
UH, THERE'S SOME STORM SEWER INSTALLATION ON THE FALLING STREET IN SECTIONS.
THERE SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, SCOTT STREET AND THIRD STREETS LEGEND THIRD STREET.
UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO START RECONSTRUCTION ON SLED STREET NEXT WEEK.
AND THE PLAN IS TO COMPLETE THAT WORK IN ABOUT A MONTH.
SO COUNCIL TYPICALLY I'D TELL YOU MATH, UH, WITH ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR CONTRACTORS.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO SAY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS ON THIS.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE STORM SURGE.
THEY WERE WORKING ON RECENTLY, DOWNTOWN RELOCATION, OVERHEAD LINES, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 82% COMPLETE.
AND THE PEC CREWS WORKING ON NAT STREET, THEY'RE SETTING THE LAST POLE.
WHEN WE COMPLETE THAT, WE'LL START COORDINATION WITH PEC PER SWITCHING SERVICES, AND THAT SHOULD START POSSIBLY NEXT WEEK.
I'LL POST ROAD CONTINUES STILL.
UH, CONSTRUCTION STILL CONTINUES AT THE NORTH END.
UH, WE INSTALLED THE DRAINAGE PIPE NEAR ONE 50.
UH, THAT'S A PICTURE OF IT THERE.
THEY'RE INSTALLING BASE AT THE NORTH END, UH, THAT THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S AT LAUREN CONCRETE, THIS PROJECT IS ALMOST COMPLETE TOO.
THIS IS A PLUM CREEK ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
WE SHOULD START DISINFECTION THIRSTY, AND WE SHOULD START REFILLING THAT SAME DAY.
IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, WE SHOULD TAKE WATER SAMPLES NEXT WEEK AND HAVE THAT TOWER BACK IN SERVICE, INDIAN PAINTBRUSH LIFT STATION.
WE JUST STARTED ON THAT PROJECT.
UH, WE STARTED THE EXCAVATION FOR THE WET, WELL, THE BATON CREEK INTERCEPTOR LIFT STATION DE DECOMMISSIONING, BOTH LIFT STATIONS ARE DISCONNECTED.
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UH, THEY'RE TAKING THESE STATIONS APART AND THE PARTS OF PUBLIC WORKS CAN USE, UH, THEY'RE GOING AHEAD AND TAKING THOSE IN AND SAVING THOSE.UH, WE STILL NEED TO COORDINATE WITH PEC TO CUT OFF THE PAR.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S KIND OF SLOW AND STAY ON RIGHT NOW.
MICROSURFACING THAT STARTED THIS WEEK, ACTUAL, ACTUAL SERVICING LAST WEEK, WE'RE DOING THE PREP WORK.
THIS IS A PICTURE THERE HAS SCOTT AT OPEN LINE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. UH, NUMBER 11 IS INTERESTING BECAUSE OF COUNCIL BACK IN MAY OF 20, UH, WE DID THIS SAME PARTICULAR ITEM AND WHAT'S HAPPENED, I GUESS THE, UH, UM, TEXTILE CHANGED SOME REQUIREMENTS IN THERE.
SO I LOOKED AT BOTH THE RESOLUTIONS AND THEY'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL.
THERE WAS ONE PARAGRAPH THAT WAS ADDED.
SO THE COUNTY ASKED US TO RUN THIS BACK THROUGH FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
SO IN ESSENCE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER ABOUT 900 FEET OF ROAD ON 9 67 FOR MAINTENANCE BY THE CITY ON ITEM NUMBER 13.
THIS IS SOME ADDITIONAL WORK WE NEED TO DO ON THE ANTHEM WATER LINE.
UH, WE DID HAVE TO DO ONE MORE BORE OUT THERE.
WE TRIED TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THE BORES ALL AT ONE TIME, BUT, UH, THE OWNER WASN'T THERE THAT ONE DAY THAT WE WENT THERE TO DO THAT.
SO WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND PAY FOR THE RE MOBILIZATION ON THAT.
WE'RE ALSO DOING SOME, UH, ASSESSMENT.
WE HAVE DISCOVERED THERE MIGHT BE EVIDENCE OF THE, UH, WARBLER OUT THERE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AN ASSESSMENT ON THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE IT, BUT WE ENDED UP DOING WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, DEPENDING ON THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER ISSUE ON NUMBER 14, THIS IS ONE I'VE MENTIONED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
WE GOT SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS SECTION OF ROAD BETWEEN, UM, GAL CROSSING AND, UH, THE BRIDGE AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS THINGS, SOME FAILURES HERE THAT ARE, I'M NOT USED TO SEEING.
SO I'VE ASKED THEM THIS, THIS FIRM TO DO A REALLY GOOD FORENSIC STUDY OF THAT AREA.
SO I ASKED HIM TO DO THE WHOLE SECTION FROM
ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR LEON CUSTOMER PARSLEY? I THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM 14.
SO I WAS, UM, REVIEWING THE SERVICE AGREEMENT AND SECTION NINE, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO DO THE SAMPLING? BECAUSE FOR WHAT I'M READING HERE, UM, SAMPLING OBSERVATION AND TEST LOCATION.
THAT'S AN ELEVATION WILL BE PAD WILL BE BASED ON FIELD ESTIMATES AND OR INFORMATION FURNISHED BY THE CLIENT, WHICH WOULD BE THE CITY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WHAT ARE WE TESTING THEN? THEY'RE GOING TO USE ESTIMATES.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THREE TYPES OF TESTING THERE.
I'M GLAD YOU ASKED, WE'RE GOING TO DO THREE TYPES OF TESTING THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO DO ACTUALLY DRILL HOLES IN THE GROUND TO SEE WHAT WAS PLACED THERE.
FROM THE EVIDENCE THAT WE FOUND ON THE PLASTIC CONSTRUCTION PLANS.
WE DID FIND THE, BUT WE DID FIND THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SIX INCHES OF ASPHALT, SEVEN INCHES OF GRAVEL AND LIME STABILIZATION FOR ABOUT EIGHT INCHES.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE GOT WHEN THE ROADS WERE BUILT.
SO THAT'S ONE TEST THEY'RE GOING TO RUN JUST TO DO ACTUAL COURSE WHERE THEY'RE DRILLING INTO THE, INTO THE PAVEMENT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S THERE.
THE SECOND TEST WE'RE GOING TO DO IS A FALLING AWAIT DEFLECT.
TOLMATTER BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT.
IF THEY DROP A HUGE BALL UP ON THE, ON THE PAYMENT AND WHEN IT BOUNCES, IT MEASURES THE HEIGHT OF THE BOUNCE.
AND THAT TELLS YOU THE STRENGTH OF THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE.
THE OTHER TEST WE'RE GOING TO DO IS A GROUND PENETRATING RADAR.
SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT LAYERS ARE UNDER THERE.
MY SUSPICION IS IT'S NOT ONLY THE TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT'S GIVEN US RUBS, OR WE MAY HAVE SOME WATER UNDERNEATH ARE SOMEWHAT, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR A COMPLETE ANALYSIS OF WHAT, WHAT THE HECK IS HAPPENING HERE.
SO WE CAN FIND OUT BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE A SOLUTION THAT LOOKS GOOD FOR A YEAR OR TWO, AND THEN IT FAILS.
SO I NEED TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER SOLUTION WE COME UP WITH THAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATION THEY GIVE US IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO LAST US FOR ANOTHER 10 OR 15 YEARS.
SO WE WILL BE TESTING THE ACTUAL, UM, WHATEVER FRACTURE WE HAVE.
WE WILL, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE TESTING IN THERE JUST TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE UNDER THE CONCRETE, CORRECT.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS IN SECTION NUMBER 10, IT SAYS AREAS SHALL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ACTS OR OMISSIONS ON THE CONTRACTOR.
SUB-CONTRACTOR ENTITY PERFORMING ANY PORTION OF THE WORK, UM, DOES NOT GUARANTEE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CONTRACTOR AND SHALL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FAILURE TO PERFORM ITS WORK.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY DON'T COME WITH ANY CORRECT FINDINGS.
THEY'RE NOT TO BE LIABLE FOR THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY, THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED.
MA'AM IS THAT A SEPARATE CONTRACTOR? WE ASKED THEM TO HIRE THAT CONTRACTOR BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL STUDIES THAT WE NEEDED.
SO IF THEY HIRE A SUB-CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT STUDY AND THEY FAIL TO REPORT CORRECT INFORMATION, AND WE JUST LOST ALL THAT $29,000 ON THIS STUDY, WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE ANALYSIS AND, AND, UH, AND WE HAVE A GOOD PROJECT MANAGER.
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WITH ROAD CONSTRUCTION.SO SHE'S, SHE'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND SHE'S GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS REPORT AS WELL AS I AM TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE GET THE GATE IS GOOD INFORMATION.
SO WE'LL BE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT MAY
ANYONE ELSE? UM, TO KIND OF COUNTER OFF OF, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, PARSLEY.
SO THE SUB CONSULTANT PRICE OF 23, 23, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE BASING IT OFF? IF WE, SHE HAVE TO DO, IF WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER CONSULTING COMPANY, COME IN TO DO IT.
UH, TH TH THE, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TESTS AND THEY'RE GOING TO ANALYZE IT TO THE BEST OF THEIR ABILITY WITH THEIR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STAND BEHIND THEIR STAMPS IN THEIR SEALS.
THAT'S INFORMATION THEY GAVE US, CORRECT.
IS SOMETHING DOES FAIL GO WRONG.
THEN WE NEED TO GO AFTER THE ENGINEERS THAT PRESENT THOSE REPORTS AND PRESENTED THOSE FINDINGS.
BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, VERSUS IF THEY GET A THIRD PARTY CONSULTING COMPANY TO DO IT, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MS. PARSLEY WAS GETTING AT.
IF WE HAVE ISSUES LATER ON TO WHEN WE START CONSTRUCTION ON IT, OR WE START WORKING ON IT, WHEN WE HAD OTHER ISSUES AND WITH PROJECTS THAT WE HAD TO WHERE IT WAS AN ENGINEERING OR ERROR, AND IT'S ON THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE TO DO CHANGE ORDERS VERSUS THE ACTUAL CONTRACTOR DOING THE WORK, I GUESS IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COVERED THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING OUT ON THAT MONEY.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING AT AS WELL WITH THIS PARSLEY.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN EXPLAIN THIS BETTER.
WE ASKED, UH, RES TO HIRE THIS SUB CONSULTANT FIRM.
AND SINCE THIS IS NOT THEIR SPECIALTY, THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT THIS FIRM PROVIDES IS THIS IS A DIFFERENT, SPECIAL TYPE OF TESTING AREAS.
WE'LL BE DOING THE CORES AND THE BORINGS THAT WE'RE GASPING FOR.
SO THERE THEY'RE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THAT, WHAT THEY DO, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE ON THE, UH, THE REST OF THE FALLING WHITE DEFLECT DOMINATOR, OR THE PA, OR THE, UH, UH, WHAT I CALL THE GROUND PENETRATION RADAR.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT RESPONSIBILITY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE.
[VI. Consent Agenda]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO PULL ANY ITEMS, ENTERTAIN MOTIONS? HEY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 15 SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALES, OR THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[16. Consider and possible action on an interlocal agreement by and between the City of Kyle, Texas and Hays County, Texas for the improvement of park facilities at sites owned by the City of Kyle.~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]
AGENDA ITEM 16, CONSIDERING A POSSIBLE ACTION ON AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AND HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF PARK FACILITIES, SITES OWNED BY THE CITY OF KYLE, MR. HENDRIX, MARY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, JERRY HENDRICKS ACTED.THIS IS BRING, THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE A COUPLE OF YEARS WORTH OF WORK BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
YOU MAY REMEMBER BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2020 TO CITY, CITIZENS OF THE KYLE ARE GRACIOUS AND GENEROUS ENOUGH TO PASS A $10 MILLION BOND FOR PARKS IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SAME TIME COUNTY RESIDENTS FOR PRIVY TO HAVE A MORE GENEROUS BOND FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON PARKS, ALL ACROSS HAYES COUNTY.
AND WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE COUNTY EVER SINCE FOR THEM TO MATCH OUR 10 MILLION.
AND, UH, EARLIER TODAY, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVE THAT MATCH.
SO BEFORE YOU IS AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH, UH, COUNTY OF HAYES TO MATCH OUR $10 MILLION FOR THREE SEPARATE PARK PROJECTS, PROJECT ONE IS, UH, UPCOMING SPORTS PLAQUES THAT, UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE ELEMENTS OF THAT PROJECT INCLUDE ONE MILE OF MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL PICNIC AREAS, A COVERED PAVILION, OUTDOOR PUBLIC RESTROOMS, AND INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND.
THIS SKATEBOARD PARK COMPETITION, SOCCER FIELD COMPLEX, SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS, BASKETBALL COURTS, THAT OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER, THAT INNOCENT STRENGTH, EQUIPMENT RECREATION, AND PRACTICE FIELDS, LANDSCAPING, INCLUDING TREES AND VEGETATION PARKING AND ENVIRONMENTAL INTERPRETATION.
THE BUDGET FOR THAT, UM, PROJECT IS $7 MILLION FROM THE CITY'S 10 MILLION PLUS $7 MILLION MATCH FROM THE COUNTY.
SO TOTAL BUDGET FOR THAT PROJECT IS $14 MILLION.
THE SECOND PROJECT IS PLUM CREEK TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS.
THE ELEMENTS OF THAT PROJECT INCLUDES SEVEN MILES
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OF MULTIPURPOSE CONCRETE TRAIL, WHICH SHOULD BE PART OF OUR VIBE.SHADED REST STOPS ALONG THE TRAIL, PUBLIC OUTDOOR RESTROOMS, INTERACTIVE KIOSK TRAIL, MACHINERY, PARKING ACCESS, INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE, EXERCISE EQUIPMENT, EMERGENCY CALL STATIONS.
THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THAT IS $4 MILLION.
IT'S $2 MILLION FROM THE CITY'S BOND.
$2 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY BOND.
THE THIRD PROJECT IS GREG CLARK PARK PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
THOSE ELEMENTS INCLUDE BATHROOMS, CONCESSIONS, AND INTERIOR PARK ROAD, LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION LEVELING, AND GRADINGS, SPECTATOR IMPROVEMENTS, SKATEBOARD PARK, HASH PAVILION IMPROVEMENTS, PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENTS, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS, SOD REPAIR, AND IN BASKETBALL TENNIS COURT REPAIR.
THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THAT IS 2 MILLION, $1 MILLION FROM THE CITY.
AND $1 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY STAFF, VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
AND WE WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS AND THEIR COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR STAFF AND COUNTY JUDGE.
AND THERE'S OUR STAFF AS WELL.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS CUSTOMER TOBY'S OKAY.
SO WE'RE GETTING 2 MILLION FOR GREG PARK FOR TWO FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT, UH, 1 MILLION, 2 MILLION ALTOGETHER, 1 MILLION FROM US WHEN MANAGED FROM THE COUNTY.
SO THAT WOULD HELP WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, AND I HAD A QUESTION FROM THIS FROM RESIDENT AS WELL, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPORTSPLEX OF THE LAND ITSELF, DID WE PURCHASE THAT OR WAS THAT LAND THAT WAS DONATED TO US OR IS IT GOING TO BE PUBLIC LAND THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY HAD A, HOW DID IT ALL THAT WORK FOR THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE INFORMATION ON THAT.
I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN IT.
SO IT'S THE 11 ACRES FOR THE SPORTS PLEX WAS NEGOTIATED WITH OUR RETAIL ROADS AGREEMENT.
AND THE AGREEMENT WITH MO MARK PAGE CAN SPEAK TO THAT PORTION OF IT.
UM, THAT IS LAND THAT IS BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
UH, AND THEN IN ADDITION, IN 2018, WHEN WE NEGOTIATED OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH LENORE FOR PLUM CREEK NORTH, UH, THERE WAS ALSO SOME ACREAGE 20 PLUS ACRES DEDICATED TO THE CITY OF KYLE AND THE COMBINATION OF THAT.
SO NONE OF THE MONEY IS GOING TO PURCHASE THE LAND AND NONE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE ON PRIVATE LAND.
IT'LL ALL BE ON LAND THAT IS DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
UM, UH, AND SO ALL THE DOLLARS WOULD GO INTO THE IMPROVEMENT.
NOW WITH, WITH THE, UH, THIS, UM, APPROVAL, THEY CAME THROUGH THE COUNTY, ONCE WE'RE ALL DONE WITH YOU, YOU THINK, UM, IN TIME THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AN INFLUX OF, OF EXTRA FUNDS AVAILABLE TO WHERE IF WE NEED TO, WE COULD USE SOME OF THIS MONEY FOR OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, FOR IMPROVEMENT LANGUAGES, THE STEEPLE CHASE, OR SOMETHING.
LIKE I ALLOWS US TO USE SURPLUS FUNDS FROM RUM PROJECT TO PUT TOWARDS ONE OF THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS AT THE END, THE BOND MONEY FROM OUR, A BOND PROPOSITION THAT IS LEFTOVER, GOES BACK TO THE CITY.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE COUNTY PART PAGE.
COULD YOU ANSWER THAT IT'S AN EVENT.
IF WE GET ANY KIND OF SURPLUS OR WHATEVER, WE JUST HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 500 OR 200,000 FROM ALL OF THIS WE COULD ALLOCATE TO OTHER PARKS.
I WILL SAY WE HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT AREN'T LISTED HERE FOR THE PARKS AND THE TRAILS THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY ASK TO ADD IF THERE'S ANY EXTRA MONEY LEFTOVER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IS WAITING ON.
YEAH, WE'RE WAITING ON PAGE YET.
MARIN COUNCIL, PAGE SIGNS, CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.
SO THE COUNTIES, IF THE, IF THERE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECT CATEGORIES.
AND IF THE, THE FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOCATED BY THE COUNTY FOR ONE OF THE PROJECTS, IF THE CITY COMES IN UNDER, THEN THOSE FUNDS CAN BE ROLLED OVER INTO ANOTHER ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT'S ON THE LIST.
SO THAT'S ONE WAY THAT THE EXCESS FUNDS CAN BE USED ELSEWHERE FOR SCALE.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND LET ME PREFACE WITH THIS REALLY MAKES ME EXCITED.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE AS A CITY DOING THESE PARKS AND TRAILS RE I'M REALLY EXCITED, BUT I'M TORN.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S, I THINK IT'S A LOT TO TAKE ON AS AT A S AS A CITY AT THE CURRENT TIME.
UM, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, AND TO MAKE MY VOTE A LITTLE BIT EASIER, I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
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I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS LAND IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY, THE SPORTSPLEX, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE UNDER PURPOSE AND LEGAL AUTHORITY 1.1 IS, UM, IT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THAT PLAN IS OWNED BY THE CITY.IT'S DEFINITELY A REQUIREMENT THAT IT MUST BE OWNED BY THE CITY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO OWN IT.
THAT IT'S BEEN DEEDED OVER TO US AND IT'S COMPLETED BECAUSE IF NOT, THEN THAT'S CONTRARY TO THE CONTRACT.
WELL, IT'S IN THE RETAIL ROADS AGREEMENT.
WE'VE GOT AN AGREEMENT FOR IT TO BE CONVEYED, BUT IT'S NOT BEING COMPLETED.
THE, I THINK THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PARTIES IS THAT IT'S, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT IT WILL BE CONVEYED.
SO IF THERE NEEDS TO BE, IF THERE'S A CLARIFICATION THERE FOR COMFORT, WE CAN MAKE THAT.
BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'D HAVE TO, UM, DEMONSTRATE THAT THOSE HAD BEEN CONVEYED WHEN THE FUNDS ARE TO BE SPENT.
NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ACTING PREMATURELY AND THAT WE GET INTO THIS AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENS LATER ON AND THEN IT'S NOT NEEDED TO US.
SO THAT WAS JUST ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
UM, MY OTHER CONCERNS AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LATE IN THE GAME TO, TO FOCUS ON THIS.
AND I WAS REALLY CONFUSED CAUSE I KNOW WE HAD A CITY BOND AND THEN WE HAD A COUNTY BOND.
AND SO MY FACEBOOK SHOWS IT ALL LIKE MY CRAZINESS, MY LINE OF THINKING.
SO GOING BACK TO THE EXHIBITS FOR THE SPORTS PLEX, UM, TWO THINGS THAT KIND OF JUMPED OUT TO ME THAT MAKE IT HARD FOR ME TO, UM, FOLK FOR THIS IS THERE'S GOING TO BE A SKATE PARK AND AN OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER AT THE SPORTS PLEX.
UM, AND I KNOW THIS, THIS AREA IS ALREADY GOING TO HAVE AN AMPHITHEATER AND THEN GREG CLARK PARK IS ALREADY GOING TO HAVE A SKATEBOARD PARK.
SO, UM, SO THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED NOTHING FOR THE PARKS.
THE, I THINK THE WAY IT WAS IS THERE WAS A, WHEN WE MADE OUR INITIAL PROPOSAL TO POZAC, WE LISTED A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT IT COULD BE.
SO THIS SHOWS THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES IT'S LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, UP TO, BUT NOT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MEAN I WOULD EXPECT THAT MOST OF THE ITEMS FOR THE SPORTSPLEX WILL NOT END UP BEING DESIGNED.
SO MY QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THE FOLLOW-UP IS NOW THAT WE HAVE THE ILA, ASSUMING WE VOTE FOR THIS, UH, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE ILA IN PLACE, WE CAN ISSUE AN RFP FOR A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND HELP PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE, WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHAT WOULD GO, WHERE AND WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE.
WE DEFINITELY SHOULDN'T BE DOING, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO AN AMPHITHEATER COMPONENT AT LAVERDE AS WELL.
SO IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THERE'S THEY KIND OF THREW THE KITCHEN SINK AT THIS, BUT I THINK THE FOCUS PERSONALLY SHOULD BE ON THE SPORTS ASPECT OF IT.
WE HAVE SPORTS DESERT HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
WE ALREADY HAVE RFPS READY TO GO FOR THE SKATE PARK, CRAIG CLARK PARK AND EVEN A SPLASH PAD AT GREY CLARK PARK.
ASSUMING WE HAVE LEFTOVER FUNDS ABLE TO DO THAT.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL INTERPRETATION IS? PAIGE, CAN YOU TELL US, I WAS WONDERING THAT MYSELF, TO BE HONEST.
NO, I CAN NOT TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS.
SO FOR THE PLUM CREEK TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT PARKING, IS THAT FOR CARS OR GOLF CARTS? BOTH.
UM, AGAIN, THIS STUFF CAN BE WHATEVER YOU WANT IT TO BE.
WHEN WE FIRST PRESENTED THIS, HE DIDN'T HAVE THE VIBE TRAIL OR GOLF CARTS IN MIND, BUT WE CAN MAKE THIS WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO BE.
UM, MY CONCERN, WELL ACTUALLY LET ME ASK THIS, DO WE KNOW WHAT SOFT COSTS ARE GOING TO BE? UM, UNDER 13.2 SAYS THE PARTIES AGREE THAT THE FUNDS PAID BY COUNTY UNDER THIS AGREEMENT SHALL NOT BE UTILIZED TO FUND IN-HOUSE CITY OPERATIONS OR LABOR SHALL NOT BE UTILIZED TO PAY FOR SOFT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF THE PROJECTS.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED ANY FORMAL BUDGETS FOR ANY OF THIS, BUT AS WE DEVELOP THOSE, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULES OF THAT, OF THE ILA.
I GUESS I'M JUST OVERALL CURIOUS WHAT A SOFT COST IS.
IT IT'S, UH, IT'S LIKE ENGINEERING AND DESIGN, SO IT'S NOT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THE COST TO PUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ONTO THE PROPERTY.
BUT WE CAN USE CITY BOND MONEY FOR THAT, FOR THE COST OF THE DESIGN.
I GUESS I'M WONDERING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT FROM.
YEAH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD SPEND CITY BOND PROCEEDS TO DESIGN THE PARK, THE PROJECTS, ALL THREE, UH, AND THEN WHENEVER IT CAME TIME TO ISSUE CONSTRUCTION BONDS THAT THE COUNTY WOULD, THEY'RE ONLY GONNA PUT THEIR MONEY INTO THE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THE CITY'S, EXPENDITURE'S NOT LIMITED, BUT THE COUNTY ONLY WANTS TO PUT MONEY INTO THE ACTUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND MY KIND OF DEAL BREAKER IS SECTION FOUR CITY DUTIES, CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF PROJECT.
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4.1 4.2, 4.3.AND MY FEAR IS WE CURRENTLY ARE AT A PLACE WHERE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH CITY STAFF TO COVER ALL OF THIS.
AND I DON'T WANT OVERWORK THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE.
UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO FALL BEHIND, I DON'T WANT TO START THIS AND THEN FAIL LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, UH, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND WE'RE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH IT.
AND AS WE GET FURTHER ALONG IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND WE START WORKING ON OUR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AFTER THE ONE WE'RE WORKING ON NOW, WE'LL BRING UP ANY STAFF NEEDS FORWARD AT THAT TIME.
SO MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL TAKE A STAFF FOR AT LEAST PARKS AND REC IS OR WHO LIKE WHAT, I GUESS, WHAT STAFF ARE WE GOING TO NEED TO MONITOR ALL THESE? UM, IT LOOKS LIKE INSPECTIONS AND THEN REVIEW AND APPROVE PAYMENTS.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE, WE ALREADY HAVE CITY INSPECTORS THAT WE WILL USE FOR THIS.
AND WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR FINANCE TEAM THAT, AND I'LL PROCESS ALL THE PAYMENTS.
AND I THINK WE'RE WELL POSITIONED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS.
LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM THAT WE APPROVED INTO ITEM 16, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? MAYER? MY PART TIME, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE, UH, THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT, UH, FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP IN THIS.
AS I LOOKED THROUGHOUT THE, UH, HAYES COUNTY, IT'S VERY ENCOURAGING TO SEE THAT THE COUNTY AND CITIES IN HAYES COUNTY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO EXPANDING OUR PARKS PROJECTS, OUR TRAILS, AND THAT'S JUST IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT AND FOR ALL THE, UH, ALL THOSE THAT WENT OUT AND VOTED FOR THE BONDS.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET TO OUR CITY.
AND I ACTUALLY WANT TO, UH, I'LL PIGGYBACK ON THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN, UH, MORE THAN TWO YEARS OF DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, WAS AN ENTIRELY, YOU KNOW, WE WERE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE BACK WHEN WE VOTED FOR THIS PARKS BOND.
WE HAD, I THINK MAYBE IT'S THE FIRST PARKS BOND WE'VE EVER DONE.
UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT ANY OF OUR PREVIOUS PARKS PROJECTS WERE PRESENTED TO THE VOTERS IN THIS, IN THIS MANNER.
AND, UH, UH, THINKING STRATEGICALLY, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T JUST ASKING THE VOTERS FOR, UH, DOLLARS, BUT THAT WE WERE LEVERAGING THOSE DOLLARS, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING I'VE TRIED TO DO.
AND IN EVERY WAY, UH, AND REALLY LEAN LEANED ON THE COUNTY, WORKED WITH THE COUNTY TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MATCH SO THAT WE COULD ESSENTIALLY JUST DOUBLE THE VALUE OF EVERY DOLLAR THAT THE CITY RESIDENTS APPROVED.
WE GET, UH, YOU KNOW, DOLLARS COMING DOWN FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH JUST MAKES THESE PROJECTS MUCH MORE VIABLE AND MAKES OUR DOLLARS GO FURTHER.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, VOCALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE SPORTS PLEX FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, IF YOU'RE A, W OUR TOWN LOVES SOCCER AND THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO, THERE ARE NO SOCCER LEAGUES IN THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, NO SOCCER FIELDS, UH, SUFFICIENT TO HOST TOURNAMENTS, UH, PUBLIC TOURNAMENTS, UH, FOR THE, THE, OUR KIDS, UH, IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
UH, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME TO ACTUALLY HAVE CITY LEAGUES AND CITY EVENTS AND, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT TO EXPAND, UH, IN THAT WAY, THROUGH THE COMING YEARS, UH, AND FOR US TO PUT OUR NAME ON, UH, YOU KNOW, A PROJECT THAT WILL PROVIDE VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY FOR HOPEFULLY, FOR YEARS TO COME.
SO I'M JUST REALLY, REALLY EXCITED.
I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY, UH, GOT AN EARFUL FROM NOT JUST FOR ME THROUGH THE YEARS ASKING, UH, BUT FROM OTHERS AS WELL, THE, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THIS DEAL THAT WE HAD CAME TO FRUITION, IT TOOK TWO YEARS, UH, ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT, BUT, BUT YET HERE IT IS.
AND SO THE COUNTY HAS FULFILLED THEIR WORD ON THIS AND, AND THERE'S TRUST AND RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN THE COUNTY, UH, THAT WE HAVE.
AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS IS A, THIS IS A MAJOR SHOWING OF, OF, OF RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND TRUST THAT THE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED TO US.
AND SO I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT, THOSE, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTARIES COUNSELOR TOBY'S YES, SIR.
UM, BOTH Y'ALL CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT, WE WERE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD TO TWO YEARS AGO.
OBVIOUSLY IT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME.
IT FEELS SO LONG AGO AND WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THE IMPACTS OF COVID BACK THEN.
SO I'M FINALLY SEEING ALL THIS WORK COME THROUGH AND FINALLY STARTING TO SEE THAT, UH, WE CAN START GETTING THIS DONE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT REALLY, UM, IS EXCITING TO FINALLY TO SEE IT AND TO, YES.
YOU KNOW, THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR HOLDING THEIR OBLIGATION AND, AND
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HELPING US WITH THIS PROJECT FOR, UH, THE MUCH NEEDED FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR US TO, TO BUILD OUR GREEN SPACE, THAT WE'VE ALWAYS IN OUR PARKS.SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS IT'S FINALLY COMING AROUND WHEN PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME THROUGH THE YEARS, WHEN'S THE PARKS TO MEET BUILT, OR WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT? YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO FIX THIS AND FIX THAT.
AND SO, UH, IF THIS GOES THROUGH, UH, WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THIS, BUT, UM, JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
ANYONE ELSE CASPER YOUR FIRST CAMP.
I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS WAS A BOND THAT WAS VOTED ON IN 2020, THE BOND, VERY PLAINLY STATES, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR.
AND THEN IT SAYS THAT THE MAT, THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE MATCHED.
THIS IS WHAT WAS VOTED BY THE, BY THE RESIDENTS.
AND SO, UM, I DID NOT KNOW THAT INITIALLY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST, WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH WHAT THEY DISCUSSED IN 2020.
SO THIS IS NOTHING NEW, CORRECT.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[17. (First Reading) An Ordinance Repealing Ordinance No. 1033, Regulating Traffic, Authorizing and directing the installation and erection of stop signs for the traffic control at the intersection of Silverado Drive and fm150 (Rebel Drive) in the City Limits of Kyle; Repealing any ordinance or resolution in conflict; providing a severability clause; Declaring a penalty; and providing an effective date. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
YEAH.UH, NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.
FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE REPEALING NUMBER 10 33, UH, REGULATING TRAFFIC AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING INSTALLATION AND ERECTION OF STOP SIGNS FOR THE TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THE INTERSECTION OF SILVERADO DRIVE AND F-150, UH, VETERANS DRIVE.
OH, OH, UH, IN THE CITY LIMITS OF KYLE WHERE APPEALING, UH, ANY ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, DECLARING A PENALTY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER, UH, COUNCIL.
BACK WHEN WE STARTED THE BURSON STREET PROJECT, WE STARTED SETTING UP SEVERAL DETOURS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT TO US.
ONE OF THOSE D DETOURS THAT WE SET UP ACTUALLY FORCED PEOPLE TO USE SILVERADO TO GET TO WHAT WAS CALLED REBEL ROAD BACK THEN.
UH, SO AS A WAY TO HELP THE RESIDENTS AT A SILVERADO GET THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, WE WORKED WITH TECH TAUGHT TO ASK THEM TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF INSTALLING STOP SIGNS AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE ON WHAT WAS CALLED REBEL ROAD AT THAT TIME.
AND SO, SO LEON, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE REASON YOU'RE SAYING WHAT WAS CALLED REBEL ROAD, CAUSE IT'S IN THE CAPTION, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE ORDINANCE REPEALING.
THIS DOES REFER TO SAY THAT THERE WAS A NAME CHANGE.
SO IT IS VETERANS DRIVE TODAY, YESTERDAY, BUT THE REASON, UH, UH, WE DID TALK TO TXDOT THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THOSE STOP SIGNS THAT ARE IN THE NORTH SOUTH LANES OF, UH, UH, VETERANS DRIVE.
SO WE'LL BE REMOVING THOSE, THE, UH, VETERAN'S DRIVE, UH, SIGNS WILL BE REMOVED, BUT THE SILVERADO SIGN WILL STILL REMAIN IN PLACE.
SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS REPEALING, THIS ORDINANCE AND LEON, YOU SPOKE TO THE, UM, REPRESENTATIVES OF SILVERADO OR DID ANYONE I KNOW THERE WAS AT LEAST AN ATTEMPT TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
DID ANYBODY GET THAT FEEDBACK? I DID NOT DO THAT.
I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING GOING, GOING ACROSS.
THEY WERE THE ONES WHO WERE ASKING FOR THE STOP SIGN INITIALLY, BUT THOSE TRAFFIC PATTERNS HAVE CHANGED.
UH, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACTORS AROUND THIS FOR ME.
I, I DO THINK THAT THE STOP SIGN NEEDS TO BE REMOVED BECAUSE IT'S JUST IMPEDING TRAFFIC AND IS NOT NECESSARY, BUT, UH, MAY PROTEIN.
I KNOW ORIGINALLY WE VOTED ON THIS WAS, UH, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF BURLESON.
SO TRAFFIC WAS BEING DIVERTED OUT THROUGH SILVERADO AND THERE WAS AN ISSUE THERE.
UNFORTUNATELY, NOW WE HAVE A DIFFERENT ISSUE WITH BURLESON COMPLETE.
WE HAVEN'T BACKUP ON ONE 50 AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING OUT OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.
SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, A WAY OF MAYBE ALLEVIATING SOME OF THAT, UH, BY ERADICATING THESE STOP SIGNS AND MOVING THEM OUT.
UH, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP PRETTY HEAVILY ON WHAT 50 AND OUR INTENT WAS TO MAKE THESE STOP SIGNS TEMPORARY WHEN WE FIRST INSTALLED THEM.
AND THAT WAS, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE BURLESON, UH, BYPASS.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ACTUALLY, IF WE DO APPROVE THIS, THAT WE DO IT AND GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO PUT SOME KIND OF NOTICE ON SILVERADO DRIVE THAT IT'S NO LONGER A STOP SIGN, BECAUSE WHILE IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN VETERANS AND IT'S REMOVED, MAYBE YOUR INSTINCT MIGHT BE TO STOP, BUT THAT WON'T HURT ANYTHING.
BUT IF YOU'RE COMING UP ON SILVERADO AND YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE ON VETERANS ARE GOING TO STOP AND THEY'RE NOT, YOU MIGHT PULL RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF THEM.
SO THAT'S MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.
AND SO WE HAVE A, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MARQUEE SIGNS, THE DIGITAL SIGNS THAT WE USE, UM, THAT MIGHT BE WHAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT WE DO FOR THE FIREWORKS, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL EVENTS THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE COULD PUT THERE, UM, AS FLASHING LIGHT OR SOMETHING.
SO LET ME JUST ASK YOU WHAT YOU THINK
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WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE COMING OUT OF SILVERADO SEE THAT CROSS TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING TO STOP ANYMORE.I'LL BE WORKING WITH TEXTILE ON THAT ISSUE.
AND THE TEXTBOOK'S GOING TO HAVE A CONCERN ALSO ABOUT THAT SAME CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE MAYOR.
SO I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US WITH WHATEVER SIGNAGE AND WHATEVER, UH, UH, SIDEBOARDS THAT WE CAN PUT UP TO WARRANT THE RESIDENTS THAT IS COMING AND MAYBE SET A CERTAIN DATE OR DEF TIME DEFINITE DATE AS TO WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, GET, UH, THE, UH, MESSAGE BOARDS FROM THE COUNTY TO IF WE NEED THOSE.
SO I'LL, I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE BOTH AGENCIES TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT CORRECTLY.
YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED WE ALSO HAVE A POLICY THAT DICTATES A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF MESSAGING.
THAT TAKES EFFECT WHEN WE DO TRAFFIC CHANGES, THAT INVOLVES EVERYTHING FROM THE MESSAGE POURS TO SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION NOTIFICATION.
AND WE WILL PUT PEOPLE IN ALL THAT IN PLAY FOR THIS.
I THINK THERE'S, IT'S GOING TO BE DANGEROUS.
ALL IT TAKES IS ONE PERSON NOT PAYING ATTENTION, THINKING THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO STOP.
UH, LEON JUST REAL QUICK, UH, WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THAT STRETCH OF ROAD? UH, IT'S CHANGED, I THINK GIVES 45 AND THEY WERE TRYING TO LOWER IT DOWN TO A LOWER SPEED, BUT I'M GUESSING COUNCIL MEMBER ON THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WONDERING IF WE COULD LOWER THE SPEED JUST TO, UH, I REMEMBER WE WERE GOING TO DO A STUDY ON OUT, HAVE WE EVER LOWERED THE SPEED THERE? UH, BUT IF, IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO NOW, THAT'D BE GREAT.
CAUSE IN CASE WE DO HAVE THAT ACCIDENT, IT'LL BE AT A LOWER SPEED.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY DID RUN SPEED TEST ON THAT SECTION AND THEY WERE GOING TO DO SOME LOWERING AT THE SPEED LIMIT.
SO I'LL CHECK WITH TEXTILE TO SEE WHAT THE STATUS IS ON THAT AND LET YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, LEON CUSTOMER.
UH, YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
I REALLY THINK THERE, UM, I HOPE THERE'S NOT BECAUSE I WAS IN THAT AREA NOT TOO LONG AGO, JUST TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT DOLLAR GENERAL AND THE TRAFFIC THERE.
THE SPEED WAS JUST RIDICULOUS.
THERE'S NO STOP SIGN AND SOMEBODY TRYING TO PULL OUT A SILVERADO AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE GOING DOWN 65, PROBABLY 70 MILES AN HOUR, CAUSE THEY KNOW THERE'S NO LONGER A STOP SIGN THERE.
NOW I THOUGHT THE WHOLE IDEA WAS TO SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN, BUT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE BACKUP IS THERE.
LIKE WE NEED A, FROM BURLINGTON SO FORTH.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS JUST NOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE A FREE FOR ALL, THEY SEE AN OPEN ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO VETERANS.
AND FIRST, AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE JUST GONNA FLY DOWN THAT ROAD AND PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THAT CORNER OF SILVERADO, TRYING TO PULL OUT, NOT KNOWING THERE COULD BE AN ACCIDENT HAPPENED JUST PULLING OUT OF THE POST OFFICE IS SOMETIMES DANGEROUS ENOUGH.
SO, UM, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT
BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY ON THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, IF, EVEN IF IT MEANS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN AND IF IT JUST TAKES AN EXTRA FIVE MINUTES TO GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO, I'D RATHER DO THAT THAN HAVE AN ACCIDENT TO WHERE SOMEBODY'S LIFE IS LOST.
BECAUSE IF THAT AREA IS JUST LIKE A HIGHWAY IN YOU, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT I'M GETTING AT POINT OTHER COMMENTARY, CUSTOMER FLOW SKILLS.
SO I, MY DAUGHTER GOES TO THAT SCHOOL.
AND SO I KNOW BOTH THE HEARTACHE AND THE SAFETY AROUND THAT STOP THOSE TWO STOP SIGNS.
AND EVEN THOUGH IT IS INCONVENIENT, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN UTOPIAS, I WOULD RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY.
UM, AND MY INITIAL QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, WHY DO WE PUT IT UP TO BEGIN WITH? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTS BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION IN BURLESON BLOCKING THE ROAD, IT CHANGED THE PATTERNS AND WAS CAUSING A BACKUP.
AND NOW IT'S LIKE ONE 10TH OF THE TRAFFIC THAT IT WAS AT THAT TIME, BUT WE STILL HAVE NO INSIGHT ON HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.
I MEAN, WE CAN SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT IT IS AND THAT THEY'RE READY TO LET IT GO, BUT WE DON'T LIVE THERE.
SO I DON'T, I CAN'T, I'D LIKE TO KNOW I DRIVE THAT INTERSECTION TWICE A DAILY.
I'M VERY LOOK, IT IS, IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT CONVENIENT, BUT STOP SIGNS ARE NOT FOR CONVENIENCE.
AND SO IF WE WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S A SAFER PLACE, THAT'S ONE THING.
BUT IF WE WANT TO TAKE IT DOWN BECAUSE IT'S REALLY BACKING UP TRAFFIC, THAT'S ANOTHER, BUT SO ART, SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE ARE STOP SIGNS FOR SAFETY OR ARE THEY FOR HELPING VEHICLES TO GET OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? BECAUSE
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THEY CAN'T BECAUSE OF CROSS TRAFFIC, SLOWING OF TRAFFIC BY VIA STOP SIGN IS, IS NOT A PR PLANNING PRACTICE THAT YOU'RE LIKELY TO FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DONE BY SPEED LIMITS OR, UH, JUST OTHER THINGS.SO I THINK IT MAKES IT A CONTROLLED INTERSECTION.
AND SO THAT THE INTERSECTION IS WHAT GETS CONTROLLED.
SO YEAH, THAT THAT'S A SAFETY ELEMENT, BUT AS FAR AS THE SPEED, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN OTHER WORDS, EVENTUALLY IT WOULD BECOME A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND IT WOULD BE A GREEN LIGHT IN WHICH CASE PEOPLE WOULD BE DRIVING THE SPEED LIMIT.
SO IF THE SPEED LIMIT THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH, YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THE SPEED LIMIT.
STOP SIGNS IS LIKE A INDIRECT WAY OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING AND AT THE TIME IT'S JUST, AND IT ALSO CAN CAUSE PEOPLE TO RUSH THROUGH, YOU KNOW, DOING LOTS OF ROLLING STOPS.
IF IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE, WHICH IS YOU DON'T NEED A STOP SIGN WHEN THERE'S JUST ONE VERY FEW VEHICLES COMING OUT OF THE, THE OTHER SIDE.
BUT WE ON, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTARY ON YOUR THOUGHTS OF TYPICALLY WHEN YOU INSTALL A MULTI-WAY STOP, THERE'S A NUMBER OF WARRANTS THAT YOU LOOK AT AND, UH, USUALLY YOU HAVE EQUAL AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC.
YOU TRY TO HAVE EQUAL AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC FROM EACH LEG OF THAT INTERSECTION.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC COMING FROM SILVERADO THAT MATCHES WHAT'S ON ONE 50.
SO TODAY, IF THEY RAN A WARRANT TO SEE IF IT MET THAT MULTI-WAY STOP REQUIREMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD MEET BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TRAFFIC COMING OFF A SILVERADO.
SO FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, IT PROBABLY DOESN'T WARRANT THE NORTH SOUTH STOP SIGNS THERE AT THIS POINT.
BUT I UNDERSTAND COUNCILS MEMBERS, OTHER POINTS, STOP TRACKS.
IT'S NOT, IF YOUR TRAFFIC IS STOPPED, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET KILLED.
UH, BUT THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, CITIZENS THAT ARE GOING NORTH AND SOUTH, OR THEY WERE HAVING TO WAIT AN EXTRA FEW MINUTES AND THAT JUST BOTHERS THEM.
AND TO BE FAIR AND NOT TO GET OFF THE SUBJECT, BUT THAT BRINGS UP THE GREAT ARGUMENT OR THE DEBATES THAT I HAVE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STOP SIGNS OVER THERE, OFF OF BUNTON, LAYMAN, THOSE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD CAN TAKE UP TO 45 MINUTES JUST TO GET TO PARKWAY.
AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE OVER HERE OFF OF ONE 50 IS INCONVENIENCED BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT TO STOP IT SILVERADO, BUT IT IT'S, IT'S ALL OVER IT.
THIS IS WHY WHEN I'M ADVOCATING TO SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GET STOPLIGHTS VERSUS STOP SIGNS, THAT'S A LOT OF THE POINTS THAT I'M MAKING FOR, ESPECIALLY EAST OF KYLE, LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO LEAVE OUT OF SOUTH, LIKE RANCH, PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET OUT OF LAYMAN IN THE STEEPLECHASE, THEY'RE BACKED UP JUST AS MUCH.
BUT AGAIN, IN THOSE AREAS, IT'S MORE CONTROLLED BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE ONE 50, IT'S A STRAIGHT SHOT, IT'S A STRAIGHT PEOPLE FLY AT LEAST 60, 75 MILES AN HOUR.
THEN THEY COME TO A STOP, THEY CONTROL THEIR SPEED.
THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO STOP AND THEN THEY CAN PURSUE ON THROUGH.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S KINDA WHERE I GET MY, MY DEBATE ON THAT, ABOUT WHAT THE STOP SIGNS, THE STOP LIGHTS, I MEAN, ALL RIGHT.
UM, I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED IT.
SO I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE MOVE MOTION BY MAYOR SECONDED BY COUNCILOR BRADSHAW.
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(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 15.542 total acres of land from Retail Service District ‘RS’ to Planned Unit District – Mixed Use District ‘PUD MXD’ for property located at 5839 Kyle Parkway, in Hays County, Texas. (CTC Residential LLC - Z-22-0101) ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning and Community Development
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the request.
- Public Hearing
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER, BY THE WAY, THAT IS FIRST READING.
UH, UH, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 15.542 TOTAL ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES, UH, DISTRICT TO PLAN UNIT DISTRICT MIXED USE PUD FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 58 39.
KYLE, UH, PARKWAY, UH, DECIDED THEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, I CAN SEND A INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY REQUESTED A DELAY OF CONSIDERATION TO AUGUST THE 16TH.
SO IF YOU ALL WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER KEEPING THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL THAT TIME AND, AND VOTE ACCORDINGLY, UH, THAT STAFF SUPPORTS THE REQUEST AS WELL.
OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NONE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I'D LIKE TO MAKE
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A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE AUGUST 16TH COUNCIL MEETING.SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FOR SCALES OR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
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(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of amending Sec. 53-1230 (Zoning), to add Indoor Firing Range to the Entertainment “E” zoning district and amend the associated zoning use chart. ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning and Community Development
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 4-1 to recommend approval of the amendment.
- Public Hearing
19 FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING SECTION 53 DASH 1230, UH, ZONING, UH, TO ADD INDOOR FIRING RANGE TO THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONING DISTRICT AND AMEND THE ASSOCIATED ZONING USE CHART.
MR. ATKINSON, THIS ITEM ALSO HAS A PUBLIC HEARING WILKINSON ONCE AGAIN, A DIRECTOR, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
UM, SO SOMETIME BACK, UM, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL ABOUT, UM, ADDING FIRING RANGES, UH, ALONG THE
AND, UM, THIS IS THE RESULT OF THAT.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT WHY WE CAME TO CONCLUSION TO PUT IT IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT AS WELL.
SO, UM, WE HAVE AN, A POTENTIAL APPLICANT.
WHO'S WANTING TO HAVE A FIRING RANGE ALONG WITH 35 AND INDOOR FIRING RANGE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH OFFICES AND THEY'RE A LITTLE RETAIL SHOP AS WELL.
AND OUR CODE, OUR ZONING USE CHART DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THAT UNLESS IT'S IN THE WAREHOUSE ZONING DISTRICT, AS MOST OF YOU PROBABLY KNOW, UH, THE WAREHOUSE NEW DISTRICT IS ONE OF TWO THAT WE DON'T REALLY, WE WON'T ALLOW FOR ANY MORE ALONG
AND SO WE, AS WE STARTED DISCUSSING IT, WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, UM, FROM BOTH THE OSHA RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE SIC CODES, WHICH IS A STANDARD INDUSTRY CODES, UM, INDOOR FIRING RANGES ACTUALLY FALL WITHIN SIMILAR CATEGORIES AS, UM, CAMPS AND AMUSEMENT PARKS.
AND WHAT HAVE YOU LIKE THAT? UM, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, ADDITIONALLY, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE KIND OF MORE OKAY WITH THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONING DISTRICT FOR THIS USE WAS BECAUSE, UM, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN USES IN THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONING DISTRICT ARE CONSIDERED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS FROM CITY COUNCIL NOW PER STATE LAW.
UM, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO A CASE BY CASE BASIS WHEN IT COMES TO ZONING IS TO DO IT THROUGH A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A FIRING RANGE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ALONG I 35, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND IT HAS TO RECEIVE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION AND IT'LL HAVE MORE ROBUST, UH, REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE CAME FROM WHEN WE PUT IT IN HER REQUESTING TO PUT IT IN THE ENTERTAINMENT ZONING DISTRICT.
AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SUMMARY OF ALL RIGHT, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW A PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE? THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED SOUNDS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS COUNTS? REMEMBER TO BE S YES, SIR.
UM, MR. ATKINSON, I SEE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED FOUR TO ONE TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THIS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A REASON WHY THEY VOTED OR WHITE ONE DISAGREE.
NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE COMMISSIONER MCCALL, UM, MADE ANY SORT OF, UH, EXPLANATION AS TO WHY SHE JUST VOTED AGAINST IT.
UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY IN TEXAS, WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS KIND OF VOTE.
I'M JUST SAYING EVERYBODY LIKES THEIR GUNS IN TEXAS, SO I'M GENUINELY CONCERNED.
SO ANYWAYS, I'M IN FAVOR FOR IT.
I HOPE IT'S SOMETHING LIKE AUSTIN HAS, UM, GOING DOWN 35 SOUTH AND BY SOUTH PARK, I THINK, UH, THAT IS A REALLY, REALLY NICE RANGE.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN SOMEHOW, UM, ALLOW OUR OFFICERS TO USE IT MAYBE AT A DISCOUNTED RATE, UM, OR SOMETHING OF THE SORT.
UM, OTHERWISE I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
I AM VERY EXCITED THAT I DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TO LA CARS.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 19 SECOND MOTION MADE BY COUNSELOR PARTIALLY SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FOUR SCALES THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THEY HAVE PROTEINS.
ARE I JUST WANT TO SAY, UM, YEAH, DEFINITELY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I VISIT THE RANGE, UH, EVERY CHANCE I GET IN SOUTH AUSTIN AND IT'S A GREAT CONTROLLED SETTING AS INSTRUCTORS ARE THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO TEACH YOU THE PROPER USE OF A FIREARM AND IT'S WITH SO MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, UH, NOW PICK IT UP FIREARMS FOR THE FIRST TIME.
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A SETTING WHERE PEOPLE WOULD LEARN HOW TO USE AND STORE THOSE PROPERLY.
FOR ME, IT'S A SAFETY, UH, UH, PLUS FOR US, BECAUSE THESE ARE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE GONNA TEACH YOU HOW TO STORE AND HOW TO LOCK UP YOUR FIREARMS AND HOW TO USE IT PROPERLY AS WELL.
SO, UH, I THINK THIS IS A WIN FOR US WELL, AND, UH, YEAH, I CONCUR, I THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT.
MAYBE HAVING THAT RANGE NEARBY WHERE OFFICERS, I KNOW
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THE OFFICERS HAVE A RANGE OUTDOOR RANGE NEARBY, UH, BUT TO HAVE AN INDOOR CONTROL WHEN IT'S A HUNDRED SOMETHING DEGREES WOULD BE PRETTY AWESOME.WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY JUST DISCUSSING THE ZONING ITSELF.
IS THERE ALREADY SOMEBODY THAT WE KNOW THAT'S INTERESTED IN THE CITY? I KNOW HE MENTIONED THE COMPANY, BUT I JUST, I KNOW WE'RE JUST CHANGING THE ZONING.
THAT'S WHY HE'S GIVEN THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE HEARING THIS AND THEY SEE INDOOR FIRING RANGE AND YES, WE'RE IN TEXAS AND THE CLIMATE THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU CANNOT, IF YOU CAN'T, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I JUST, IT'S JUST NOT ANYBODY SPECIFICALLY.
I CAN'T RESPOND TO THAT PART YESTERDAY.
AND ANYONE ELSE, ALL RIGHT, I'LL BE THE BEARER OF BAD NEWS.
I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PIECE.
SO I'M VOTING AGAINST IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAREHOUSES AND APPROPRIATE ZONING CATEGORY FOUR, UH, FIREARMS, I THINK IT'S IN THE APPROPRIATE CATEGORY.
AND THE FACT THAT I, THAT IT'S WAREHOUSE IS NOT ALLOWED ON
SO IF A PROPOSAL COMES FORWARD FOR A PUD, ONCE THIS CHANGE HAS BEEN MADE, THAT'LL BE A CONSIDERATION THAT CHANGES, UH, MY VOTE AT THAT TIME.
SO THIS ISN'T THE ACTUAL APPLICANT.
THIS IS WHETHER IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PUT FIRE ARM OR WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PUT AN INDOOR FIRING RANGE AS A CATEGORY AND ENTERTAINMENT, WHICH BY MY ACCOUNT IS AN ABSOLUTE IND AROUND OF OUR CODE IN ORDER TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
SO, UM, JUST, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, UH, CUSTOMER BRADSHAW.
I'M JUST GOING TO PUSH BACK ON WHAT YOU SAID, BECAUSE THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF THE RANGE AND SOME OF THE OTHER SHOOTING RANGES THAT I'VE SEEN AROUND HERE, NONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE WAREHOUSE.
NONE OF THOSE MEET THE WAREHOUSE CRITERIA.
AND I THINK MOVING IT TO ENTERTAINMENT MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
SAY NAY MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.
UH, DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO, I WASN'T DOING THAT TO BRING IT BACK THOUGH.
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Consider and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City Council Authorizing and Creating the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District in accordance with Chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code; resolving other matters incident and related thereto; and providing an effective date. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager
- Public Hearing
UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING MS. SANDRA LEWIS, AMBER LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.
WE'VE GOT A PRESENTATION FROM THE DEVELOPER TEAM, IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR BOND COUNCIL TEAM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU MIGHT HAVE ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
UH, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK FOR YOUR TIME OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AND CONSIDERATION FOR OUR PROPOSED LIMESTONE CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS TO STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND GUIDANCE TO THE PROCESS.
I'M JUSTIN BELMORE WITH MERITAGE HOMES.
JOINING ME TONIGHT IS, UH, KEVIN PIERCE, OUR PID, UH, ATTORNEY AS WELL AS PATRICK BORN OUR PID FINANCIAL ADVISOR, FIRST TIME PRESENTING.
UH, I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
WE ARE STILL AN ENERGY STAR, UH, AWARD WINNER, UM, AND ALSO AN AVID AWARD WINNER FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE EXCELLENCE.
THIS IS OUR PROPOSED LAND PLAN, UM, FOR, UH, LIMESTONE CREEK AND THEN HERE, UM, IS THE REGIONAL BELMAR BENEFITS, UH, PURSUANT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON'S, UH, REQUEST.
UH, WE ROUTED A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED, UM, SUMMARY OF THE REGIONAL BENEFITS.
HOPEFULLY YOU'VE ALL HAD A TIME TO RECEIVE THAT AND REVIEW THAT.
UM, JUST BRIEFLY, UM, SOME OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, FOR THIS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WILL BE, UH, WATERSTONE BOULEVARD, UM, BUILDING OUT THE FULL SCOPE OF THAT CROSS SECTION OF RIGHT AWAY THROUGH THE, THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, AS WELL AS, UH, INCORPORATING, UH, GOFORTH BOULEVARD, AS WELL AS, UH, ADDITIONAL STORM DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BENEFIT, UH, QUAIL RIDGE SUBDIVISION, UH, ALSO ENHANCE, UH, AMENITIES, PARKS, AND TRAILS, AND THEN ALSO, UH, UTILITIES AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN OVER TO KEVIN PEARCE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
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I'M A PARTNER WITH NICHOLAS SINCLAIR.UM, WE, UH, FOCUSED ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
UM, I WANT TO TAKE A BRIEF OPPORTUNITY SINCE WE'RE JUST KIND OF STARTING THIS PROCESS.
WE WERE HERE LAST MONTH FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND THE DEPOSIT AGREEMENT WHEREBY THE DEVELOPER HAS PUT UP THE MONEY TO PAY FOR STAFF COSTS AND REVIEWING THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
UM, I WANTED TO TAKE JUST A BRIEF MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE, UM, KIND OF NOS AND TRANSPARENCY ELEMENTS TO THIS PID.
UM, NOT A LOT OF CITIZENS KNOW WHAT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS, UM, AND KIND OF THE MECHANICS, HOW IT WORKS, OR IF IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEM OR HOW THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP UP WITH IT.
AND SO AT THE OUTSET, I WANT TO TAKE JUST THIS MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A MULTI STEP PROCESS OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS.
UM, TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO FORMERLY CREATE THE DISTRICT.
UM, THIS DOES NOT CREATE ANY OBLIGATIONS THAT DOES NOT BURDEN ANY PROPERTY.
UM, SO THIS IS A VERY PRELIMINARY STAGE.
UM, IF THE COUNCIL PROVES THE CREATION OF THIS DISTRICT, UM, THE NEXT PIECE THAT HAPPENS, WE PUBLISH A NOTIFICATION IN THE NEWSPAPER, UM, SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT HAS BEEN CREATED HERE.
UM, FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS, UM, WHEN WE GET CLOSE TO ACTUALLY PUTTING ASSESSMENTS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S THE POINT WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE DISTRICT ARE GONNA BE OBLIGATED TO PAY, UM, WE WILL PUBLISH NOTICES IN THE NEWSPAPER AS WELL AS MAIL LETTERS TO ALL THE OWNERS OF PROPERTY WHO ARE GOING TO BE, UH, ASSESSED, WHICH IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE DEVELOPER AT THAT TIME.
UM, BUT THERE WILL BE NOTICED FOR THAT, UM, PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF KYLE'S PIT POLICY, WHICH YOU'VE ALL PUT IN PLACE FOR MANY YEARS NOW TO, UM, PROTECT YOUR CITIZENS AND TO HAVE A STRUCTURED FORMAL SYSTEM.
UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR PID SIGNAGE AT THE ENTRANCES, UM, AT POINTS OF INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR THE DISTRICT, SO THAT ANYONE WHO GOES IN TO SAY, HEY, I WANT TO GO BUY A HOUSE.
I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
OH, IT SAYS IT'S A, UH, A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
I SHOULD ASK THE SALES PERSON WHAT THAT MEANS WHEN I GET THERE, THAT SIGNAGE IS THERE CLEARLY AND PROMINENTLY, SO THAT A MOTORIST ON THE ROAD CAN SEE THAT SIGN.
FURTHERMORE, THE POLICY ALSO REQUIRES THAT THERE BE PID INFORMATION IN THE SALES CENTER, SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE PROSPECTIVE HOME BUYERS WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THEM BEFORE THEY EVEN DECIDE TO, UM, GO UNDER CONTRACT IN THAT, ON THAT PROPERTY.
UM, FINALLY, UM, UNDER SOME NEW STATE LAW AND WHICH WAS ALREADY PART OF THE PROCESS, UM, GENERALLY, UM, WHEN A, UH, HOME BUYER GOES UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE A HOUSE, THEY WILL RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION SAYING YOU ARE IN A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
YOU WILL BE OBLIGATED TO PAY APPROXIMATELY THIS MUCH MONEY EVERY YEAR.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SIGN THAT DOCUMENT AT THE TIME OF CONTRACT.
AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO SEE AND SIGN THE SAME DOCUMENT AGAIN WHEN THEY CLOSE.
SO THERE'LL BE TWO TIMES WHERE THEY WILL SEE THE SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE WALKING INTO SO THAT THEY KNOW I'VE GOT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.
THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, SIGN IT, SAY, YES, I KNOW I'M IN A PID.
THERE IS VERY, VERY LITTLE CHANCE OF SOMEONE GOING, GOING.
I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN, UM, THROUGH THE DEVELOPERS KIND OF STANDARD PRACTICES THROUGH STATE LAW AND THROUGH THE CITY'S PID POLICIES.
THERE IS A LOT OF VERY RIGOROUS PROTECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHERE OUR NEXT STEPS ARE.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PIECES THAT GO ON HERE.
UM, AND SO HERE'S KIND OF A WALKTHROUGH, GENERALLY, SPEAKING OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING AFTER THIS.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE THE NOTICE OF CREATION PUBLISHED.
UM, IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO APPROVE THE DISTRICT TONIGHT, UM, THAT KICKS OFF THE, THE DOCUMENT CREATION PROCESS, UM, FINANCING DOCUMENTS, BOND DOCUMENTS OF THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A TERM WHICH WAS MENTIONED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, THOSE DOCUMENTS WILL BE GENERATED AND DRAFTED NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER, UM, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, UH, YOUR BOND COUNSEL AT NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT.
UM, AS WELL AS YOUR OTHER CONSULTANTS, UM, SAM CO YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR, P THREE, WORKS YOUR PIT ADMINISTRATOR.
UM, A LOT OF HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED INDIVIDUALS AND TEAMS WILL BE WORKING TO CRAFT A DOCUMENT AND A SERIES OF DOCUMENTS THAT BOTH CREATES A GOOD FINANCING THAT IS, UM, GOOD FOR THE PROJECT, GOOD FOR THE CITY AND GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS WHO ARE GOING TO BE LIVING IN THE PROJECT.
UM, THE NEXT TIME WE COME TO SEE YOU GUYS WILL PROBABLY BE FOR THE CREATION OF THE TOURIST COMPONENT.
WE'LL BE PUTTING TOGETHER THAT INFORMATION AT THAT TIME.
UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF GOING PIECE, UH, IT'S THE SISTER HALF TO THIS PROJECT, THE TOURISTS AND THE PIT ARE GOING TO BE WALKING HAND IN HAND TOGETHER.
UM, THEN WE'LL BE COMING BACK AGAIN.
UH, ONCE WE'VE NEGOTIATED THE, UM, FINANCIAL TERMS, YOUR PIT ADMINISTRATOR WILL PUT TOGETHER THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN TO PRELIMINARY DOCUMENT OF THAT, WHICH WILL OUTLINE THE SPECIFIC DOLLAR
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AMOUNTS OF WHO'S PAYING WHAT, WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING, WHAT PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE PAID FOR, WHAT IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE PAID FOR.UM, AND THEN THE, THE TOURIST BOARD THAT WILL BE CREATED WILL APPROVE SOME OF THE FINANCE DOCUMENTS FOR THE TOURIST SIDE.
AND THEN AT THE END, EVERYTHING COMES TOGETHER AND WE APPROVE THE FINANCING DOCUMENTS, THE TOURIST DOCUMENTS, BOND DOCUMENTS, GO THROUGH THE ASSESSMENT HEARING AND ULTIMATELY APPROVE THE ENTIRE PROJECT, UM, AND FINANCE THIS DEAL.
UM, THAT'S, UH, A LOT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT OF STEPS ALONG THE WAY, BUT I WANT TO REITERATE, THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE STEPS ALONG THIS PROCESS WHERE WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL TO, UM, EDUCATE AND INFORM YOU ON THE STATUS OF WHERE EVERYTHING IS GOING, THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT, THE STATUS OF NEGOTIATIONS, SO THAT IT WILL BE AS TRANSPARENT A PROCESS AS WE CAN MAKE POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, WORKING IN THIS FIELD, THAT'S THE EFFECTIVE WAY TO DEVELOP THESE PROJECTS IS, UM, WITH A LOT OF CLOSE WORK WITH THE CITY TEAM AND BEING AS UPFRONT IN THE PROCESS AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO, UM, WE, WE ARE WELCOME.
WE WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN, UH, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE LEGAL ASPECT.
PATRICK BORNE IS HERE TO TALK ALL THE FINANCE AND NUMBERS AND, UM, JUSTIN CAN SPEAK TO THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
UM, BUT WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED TO START THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE CITY OF KYLE IS A FANTASTIC PLACE TO, TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
AND WE THINK YOU HAVE A FANTASTIC TEAM OF ATTORNEYS AND CONSULTANTS THAT I PERSONALLY REALLY ENJOY WORKING WITH.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE A REQUEST THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I HAVE A QUESTION I NEED TO ASK OUR ATTORNEYS AND I'M LIKE A COUNSEL TO BE PRIVY WHEN THEY GET THAT QUESTION.
SO I JUST TAKE US JUST A SECOND.
UM, THERE, THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I ALREADY HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'M GOING TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.
SECOND BY CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALES THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
WE'LL TALK TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT IF Y'ALL WANT TO TALK TO, UM, BOND COUNSEL, UH, YOU CAN DO THAT ON YOUR WAY OUT.
[21. Consider and possible action approving continued design for intersections at Kohlers Crossing and Marketplace Avenue and/or Kohlers Crossing and Kyle Crossing. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
ITEM NUMBER 21, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION.APPROVING CONTINUED DESIGN FOR INTERSECTIONS AT KOHLER'S CROSSING AND MARKETPLACE AVENUE AND OR COLORS CROSSING.
UM, MARIN COUNCIL, THIS ITEM TO DO THIS WORK WAS APPROVED BACK IN MARCH OF 2022 EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND WE ASKED CPN WHY TO LOOK AT TWO INTERSECTIONS IN PARTICULAR.
ONE WOULD BE THE COLORS AT MARKETPLACE AND COLORS CROSSING AT CAL CROSSING AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 1162, I THINK ORDINANCE NUMBER 1162, I BELIEVE NOW THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS INTERSECTION AND SEE IF A ROUNDABOUT IS GOING TO BE FEASIBLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY FEASIBLY BUILD IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THERE IN YOUR BACKUP.
THERE'S A PRETTY LENGTHY, UH, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT, SET SOME EXTRA PAGES IN IT BECAUSE OF THE BLANK PAGES WITH PLEASE IGNORE THOSE THE REPORTS ONLY ABOUT 64 PAGES LONG AND 1 68 PAGES LONG AND THE OTHER.
SO A LOT OF TABLES, A LOT OF CHARTS.
AND SO REALLY, I JUST USUALLY LOOK AT THE CONCLUSION OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS THESE ARE DONE IN A SIMILAR FASHION.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE GIVING US THREE ALTERNATES TO THINK ABOUT OR THREE OPTIONS TO LOOK AT THE FIRST OPTION.
THEY'RE SAYING JUST PUT SOME TRAFFIC SIGNALS UP AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION AND JUST PRETTY MUCH DON'T CHANGE MUCH OF ANYTHING IN THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
THE SECOND OPTION TALKS ABOUT HEADING LEFT TURN LANES AND WHERE IT'S NEEDED.
FOR EXAMPLE, AT CALL CROSSING, MOST OF THAT TRAFFIC MOVES FROM THE GOING EAST COAST TO THE NORTH, AND THEN GOING FROM THIS GOING SOUTH, THEY GO BACK TO THE WEST.
SO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY YOUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT YOU SEE AT THAT INTERSECTION.
SO THEY TALKED ABOUT PUTTING DOUBLE LANES IN THOSE PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS.
THE THIRD OPTION THEY LOOKED AT WAS THE ROUNDABOUT.
UH, I WANT TO GO THROUGH, UH, THIS IS MARKETPLACE, I BELIEVE.
UH, I GO UP A LITTLE BIT AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, MARCEL STRAWN IS ON THE VIRTUAL.
HE'S AVAILABLE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
IF YOU ASK HIM NEEDING TO ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS, HE'S A DESIGNER OF THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT AND, UH, GRANTED HE CAN MOVE BACK TO THE TOP.
LET ME START WITH MARKETPLACE.
THEIR FIRST PROPOSAL FOR THE INTERIM SOLUTION IS TO JUST INSTALL TRAFFIC SIGNALS THERE.
AND THEY ESTIMATE THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS 360,000.
THERE IS NO, UH, RIGHT AWAY NEEDED FOR THAT PARTICULAR, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
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DOES NOT INCLUDE DESIGN.THAT'S JUST THE CONSTRUCTION COST.
THE SECOND OPTION FOR JUST RECONSTRUCTING THAT INTERSECTION, ADDING TURN LANES WILL REQUIRE SOME RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THE REST OF THE MEETING ABOUT 1.7 BILLION FOR THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY WOULD BE THE REST OF MEETING AT ABOUT $125,000.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT $1.8 MILLION FOR THAT INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT.
THE THIRD OPTION IS AROUND ABOUT, AND THAT ONE'S A ESTIMATED AT A 3.7 MILLION PLUS ABOUT ANOTHER, ALMOST A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND IN THEIR SUMMARY OR THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
THEY DO NOT RECOMMEND THE ROUNDABOUT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND IF I COULD ASK MARCEL TO SHARE HIS SCREEN TO SHOW US THE ROUNDABOUT.
SO LEON, JUST TO BE CLEAR, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT COLORS AND MARKETPLACE WITH THIS? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT COLORS AND CAL CROSS COLORS AND MARKETPLACE? OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S ABLE TO SHARE IT.
THIS IS A ROUNDABOUT THAT'S PROPOSED AT THE MARKETPLACE AT KOHLER'S CROSSING.
NOTICE HOW IT ENCROACHES INTO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING.
AND, UH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH RSI RIGHT THERE.
SO WHAT YOU DO ON THIS ONE IS YOU'D HAVE TO PUSH IT FURTHER NORTH.
IF YOU LOOK TO THE NORTH, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DROP-OFF ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO NOW YOU'RE STARTING TO REALLY ADD COSTS TO THIS PROJECT.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THAT THEY DO NOT RECOMMEND THE ROUNDABOUT.
IN FACT, WHAT THEY RECOMMEND IS THE INTERIM SOLUTION AND THE INTERIM SOLUTION WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD GO WITH THE TRAFFIC'S, UH, NEW TRAFFIC'S, UH, POSTS AND A NICE TRAFFIC POSTS.
THEY WOULD BE EITHER BLACK POWDER-COATED OR THEY WOULD BE THE NICE, UH, NICE LOOKING TRAFFIC, UH, POLLS THAT YOU WOULD SEE A DINNER IS WE WANT TO HAVE A REALLY NICE FACILITY THERE, THERE WOULDN'T BE THE STANDARD, UH, UH, CORRUGATED, I MEAN, THE METAL, THE METAL FINISH THAT YOU HAVE.
SO IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE WHAT WE'D WANT TO PUT THERE.
I NOTICED THAT, UH, ON THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION, THERE'S A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
THAT'S GOING TO BE MOUNTED THERE.
I KNOW IT WAS ASKED TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, BUT, UH, THE MAST ARM IS JUST, IT'D BE TOO LONG.
THAT WOULD TAKE A REALLY, UH, TERRIFIC STRUCTURAL DESIGN TO COME UP WITH A MASSIVE WOULD REACH ACROSS THAT MANY LANES IN THE MEDIAN.
SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THAT A PREDICTOR, UH, FOUNDATION ON THE SIDE WHERE THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDINGS GOING TO GO.
AND AGAIN, NO RIGHT AWAY IS REQUIRED, BUT THAT WAS THEIR COST OF THE, TO DO THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT.
AND AGAIN, AS TIME GOES ON AND WE STUDY THESE INTERSECTIONS AND WE GET MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THERE AS THESE ROADS OPEN UP, WE WANT TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY LATER DOING ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY TO SEE MAYBE WE DO NEED TO ADD MORE TRAFFIC LANES IN THERE.
SO THAT WOULD BE AT A LATER PHASE THAT WE'LL DROP OVER TO THE KYLE MARKET, UH, CAL CROSSING AT, UH, AT KYLE CROSSING.
THIS IS AT COLLEGE CROSSING AND CAL CROSSING THE SAME THING HERE.
YOU HAD THREE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS JUST INSTALL SOME TRAFFIC SIGNALS THERE AND THEIR ESTIMATED COST IS 332,000.
AND IT DOES IT, IT CALLS FOR A LITTLE BIT OF RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION TO THINK ABOUT $5,000 IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
AND THEN, UH, ON THAT ALTERNATE TO THE THEY'RE ADDING LEFT TURN LANES AGAIN, MORE, MORE LEFT TURN LANES IN THAT AREA.
AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO START NEEDING MORE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEIR COST IS AROUND 2.1 MILLION.
AND PLUS THE COST OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH I BELIEVE IS AROUND $123,000.
SO IT STARTS GOING UP IN PRICE, OBVIOUSLY ON THE ROUNDABOUT.
THEY DO RECOMMEND THAT WE COULD USE AROUND ABOUT THERE.
IT'S ABOUT $3 MILLION PLUS RIGHT AWAY, WHICH IS ABOUT $374 MILLION.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING BACK TO RECOMMENDING THE FIRST OPTION, WHICH IS JUST TO DO AN INTERIM INSTALLATION THERE.
IF, IF WE GO WITH THESE INTERIM INSTALLATIONS OR WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING IN PLACE BY NEXT, SOMETIME NEXT YEAR, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE OTHER MORE EXPENSIVE AND MORE DETAILED, UH, OPTIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO OR THREE YEARS BEFORE THEY GET IN THERE, BECAUSE WE HAD TO BUY RIGHT AWAY, YOU HAVE TO DO THE DESIGN AND THEN IT'LL TAKE A WHILE TO CONSTRUCT THOSE PARTICULAR TYPES OF INTERSECTIONS.
SO THEIR PROPOSAL IS TO THEY'RE RECOMMENDING ON BOTH OF THESE INTERSECTIONS TO USE THE INTERIM SOLUTIONS ON THE INTERIM SOLUTION AT KYLE CROSSING, I DON'T FORESEE US PUTTING ANY FANCY, UH, UH, IMPROVEMENTS THERE BECAUSE THAT INTERSECTION MAY CHANGE AS TIME GOES ON.
UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT EXTENDING CAR CROSSING OVER AT 35.
THAT MAY BE A POSSIBILITY DEPENDING ON THE BOND ELECTION.
AND SO AT THAT POINT, TRAFFIC PATTERNS ARE GOING TO CHANGE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT INTERSECTION THIS TIME.
BUT WE DO WANT TO PROVIDE, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL AT THAT INTERSECTION AT THIS TIME.
SO, UH, COUNSEL, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A FOURTH OPTION? DO NOTHING.
THERE'S NO QUESTION YOU COUNCIL IS,
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LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.IF YOU WANT TO MOVE WITH ANY OF THESE OPTIONS, THEN I'LL PUT OTHERS, I'LL GET A PROPOSAL FROM THE CONSULTANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN WE'LL GET, COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT PROPOSAL.
LET YOU KNOW WHAT THAT COST IS FOR THAT.
WELL, I THINK THE ANSWER WOULD BE, DO NOTHING AT MARKETPLACE BECAUSE I THINK THAT UNTIL MARKETPLACE EXTENSION IS COMPLETED, WHICH GIVES WE'D HAVE TIME TO DECIDE ON MARKETPLACE THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE THERE'S NO TRAFFIC THERE AS FAR AS CROSS TRAFFIC.
SO WE COULD TAKE THAT ONE OFF, BUT THE OTHER ONE IS, YOU KNOW, DURING RUSH HOUR IN PARTICULAR IS BACKING UP, YOU KNOW, 50 CARS DEEP.
SO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION EVERY AFTERNOON.
YEAH, THAT ONE'S PRETTY ROUGH.
UH, SO, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT, SO YOU'RE ASKING W JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FROM US IS TO GIVE YOU A DIRECTION TO PROCEED IN A PARTICULAR WAY, AND THEN YOU'LL BRING BACK PROPOSALS OR THAT'S CORRECT, MARY.
IF YOU TELL ME TO JUST STOP ON MARKETPLACE, WE WILL STOP.
THEY WERE ENDED, WE'LL REFINE THE PRELIMINARY JURY REPORT, GET IT CLEANED UP AND CLOSED OUT.
AND THAT'LL BE THE END OF THAT FOR NOW.
IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON COLLAR CROSSING, LET ME KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO GET A PROPOSAL FROM THE CONSULTANT SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND INSTALL THE, GET A DESIGNED TO INSTALL THE TEMPORARY INTERIM SIGNALS THERE.
AND THEN I CAN GET A PROPOSAL FROM THE CONSULTANT, BRING THAT BACK TO YOU FOR A RECOMMENDATION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THE INTERIM SIGNALS, A COW CROSSING.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, TO DO NOTHING AT THE INTERSECTION OF MARKETPLACE AND KOHLERS AND TO PROCEED WITH OPTION ONE AT THE INTERSECTION OF KYLE CROSSING AND COLORS FOR TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS, MOTION OF THE MAYOR.
SECOND OF MY CUSTOMER, TOBY HIS THIRD DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
[22. Task force update on alternative traffic calming measures to be considered in single residential zoned areas (including but not limited to R-1-1, R-1-2, R-1-3, R-1-A, M-1, M-2, M-3). ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
ITEM NUMBER 22, UH, TASKFORCE UPDATE ON ALTERNATIVE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO BE CONSIDERED IN SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ZONES.UH, MR. BARBARA, MARIN COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS SO FAR ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON, BUT I THINK WE'RE WANTING TO GET A POSTPONEMENT SO WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH ON THIS ONE.
UH, MR. BARBER PRETTY MUCH SUMMED IT UP.
UH, I THINK THAT, UM, WE, WE HAVE HAD THREE MEETINGS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE AS SERGIO AND I WITH THE, UH, STAFF THAT WE ALIGNED, UH, FOR THE TASK FORCE.
UH, I THINK THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT THIS AND NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS, THE MORE WE SEE THE, WHAT, WHERE THEY WERE OVERTAKING HERE, BECAUSE WE WERE TASKED WITH TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES HERE, ONE, UH, ADDRESSING OUR SUBDIVISIONS AS THEY ARE NOW AND WHAT SOLUTIONS THERE CAN BE.
AND THEN, UH, WHAT PROPOSALS WE WANT TO BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL.
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE HAD A, UM, A MEMBER FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN, COME IN AND TELL US ABOUT THEIR TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AND WHAT THEY DO WITH, UH, SPEED PILLOWS OR SPEED CUSHIONS.
WE'VE KIND OF INTERCHANGED THOSE TERMS, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SPEED BUMPS.
UH, WE HAVE METRICS WE HAVE, UM, THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT.
WE HAVE CERTAINLY CONSULTED WITH EMERGENCY SERVICES AND GOTTEN THEIR FEEDBACK ON THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THERE'S JUST A NUMBER OF THINGS STILL.
AND AS YOU ALL CAN IMAGINE, IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH.
UH, WE'D HAVE CONDUCTED THREE MEETINGS, BUT AS, AS I, UH, OUTLINED, AND AS MR. BARBARA OUTLINED, UH, THERE JUST SOME MORE THINGS WE'D REALLY LIKE TO GET BUTTONED UP BEFORE WE MAKE, UH, BRING, UH, A PRESENTATION FOR THE COUNCIL.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO BRING THIS BACK AT THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST, MESS MY MOTION.
SECOND ABOUT MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? HAVE JUST A QUICK DISCUSSION JUST TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK AND FOR ALL THE RESEARCH THEY'VE BEEN BOMBARDING US WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I TRULY APPRECIATE BECAUSE WHEN WE MAKE A FINAL DECISION, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[23. Discussion and possible action regarding an update to the City's Personnel Policy regarding a capped pay out of unused, accrued sick time upon retirement or departure of employment (without cause) with the City. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
ITEM NUMBER 23.DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING AN UPDATE TO THE CITY'S PERSONNEL POLICY REGARDING A CAP PAYOUT OF UNUSED ACCRUED SICK TIME UPON RETIREMENT OR DEPARTURE OF EMPLOYMENT WITHOUT CALLS WITH THE CITY CUSTOMER FORCE.
UM, SO THIS POLICY WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UM, DURING TWO DIFFERENT TIMES, UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS ON JUNE 8TH WHEN I WENT TO MICHELLE'S JONES, HIS RETIREMENT.
AND, UH, WE JUST HAD A SHORT CONVERSATION.
I SPOKE TO HER ABOUT HER, THE DEPARTURE WITH THE CITY AND ASKED HER, UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING SHE'D LIKE TO SEE DIFFERENTLY.
UM, AND SHE, SHE MENTIONED THAT, UM, SHE WAS UNABLE TO DONATE HER TIME, HER UNUSED SICK TIME.
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AND I LOOKED AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE DONATION COULD ONLY BE DONE UPON, UH, TO A SPECIFIC PERSON.AND SO, UH, AND IT, IT CAME UP AGAIN IN AN EMAIL, UM, REGARDING THE PAYOUT FOR UNUSED SICK TIME.
AND SO, UM, I LOOKED AT IT AND I INITIALLY I WAS, UM, NOT IN FAVOR BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IF IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT JUST A SINGLE PERSON AT THAT TIME, UM, I WASN'T TOO SURE I WAS IN FAVOR OF IT.
AND THEN THE IDEA CAME ACROSS, UM, THAT MAYBE WE PRORATE IT BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT THE CITY THAT I FEEL THAT MAY HAVE EARNED SOME, UM, UNUSED SICK TIME.
AND SO, UM, JUST SOME GUIDELINES THAT I WAS, I WAS LOOKING AT WOULD BE, UM, FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE.
UH, IT WOULD BE CAPPED AT 144 HOURS, WHICH, UM, I THINK THAT KIND OF COINCIDES WITH, UM, SECTION 5.07, NUMBER SIX B, UM, WHERE, WHEREAS AN EMPLOYEE CAN UTILIZE UNUSED SICK LEAVE, UM, THAT USE IT, BUT BE PAID OUT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE FIRED FOR.
CAUSE, AND SO, UH, THOSE ARE MY OUTLINES AND I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, UM, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK I WILL SAY.
UM, IT OCCURRED TO ME WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THEIR WORKERS FOR THE CITY OF KYLE THAT WORK IN THE SUN OUTSIDE FOR FOUR TO SIX HOURS A DAY THAT MAKE $15 AN HOUR, THAT SOMEHOW WE NEED TO OFFER THEM A BENEFIT THAT WOULDN'T COST TOO MUCH TO THE CITY.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAYBE ENCOURAGE THEM NOT TO LEAVE AND, AND SHOW THAT WE APPRECIATE THAT THEY ARE HERE.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER FACTOR THAT I FACTORED IN TO, UM, TO ME BRINGING US TO THE DICE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS MAYOR PRO TEM? YEAH, DEFINITELY.
I, I DEFINITELY COULD GET BEHIND SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
I WOULD EVEN PROBABLY GO FORWARD AS MAYBE EVEN ALLOWING PEOPLE TO USE THEIR ACCRUED SICK TIME OR, UH, OR IF YOU WERE CALLING IT A SICK TIME OR IF YOU'RE CALLING IT A VACATION HOURS TO MAYBE EVEN, UM, ALLOW THEM TO USE THAT TOWARDS A RETIREMENT.
THE END, I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THAT, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ACCRUED ALL THIS TIME AND THEY'VE GOT LIKE FOUR MONTHS TO RETIREMENT AND THEY'RE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR THOSE FOUR MONTHS, UH, TO RETIRE FOUR MONTHS EARLY.
SO IT'S SOMETHING, JUST SOME FRUIT FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
STAFF HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS PROPOSAL.
MAYOR COUNCIL WANTS TO GO TO FOR THE RECORD, JERRY HENDRICKS ACTING CITY MANAGER, WE PUT TOGETHER SOME INFORMATION JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR SICK LEAVE AND OUR VACATION ACCRUALS AND HOW THAT GETS PAID OUT.
WE ALSO, UM, WE'RE ALSO PLANNING ON BRINGING SOME PERSONNEL POLICY CHANGES TO THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS THAT MIGHT ALSO ADDRESS PART OF THIS.
HELLO, SHARE MY SCREEN FOR THIS.
JUST TO GIVE YOU, I CAN FIND IT JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND OF WHAT OUR CURRENT POLICIES ARE.
SO OUR VACATION LEAVE RIGHT NOW, IT'S BASED ON A NUMBER OF YEARS OF SERVICE.
IF YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR ONE TO NINE YEARS, YOU ACCUMULATE 80 HOURS PER YEAR.
IF YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE CITY 10 TO 19 YEARS, YOU ACCUMULATED 120 HOURS PER YEAR, 20 PLUS YEARS, 144 HOURS PER YEAR.
THE MAX YOU CAN ACCUMULATE AND A CREW FOR ONE TO NINE YEARS.
IT'S 160 HOURS FOR 10 TO 19 YEARS.
WHEN YOU LEAVE THE CITY WITH THAT, THOSE VACATION ACCRUALS, YOU'RE ABLE TO TAKE THOSE WITH YOU.
THE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES, UH, POLICE OFFICERS, THE SWORN POLICE OFFICERS, THEY CAN ACCRUE.
THEY ACCRUE ACROSS THE BOARD 120 HOURS PER YEAR.
AND THE MAX THEY CAN ACCRUE IS 400 HOURS.
AND THEY TAKE THAT WITH THEM WHEN THEY LEAVE,
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AS LONG AS THEY LEAVE IN GOOD STANDING FOR SICK LEAVE, REGULAR EMPLOYEES CURRENTLY ACCRUED 96 HOURS PER YEAR.THEY CAN ACCRUE UP TO 480 HOURS A YEAR.
IF THEY LEAVE, THEY DID NOT GET TO TAKE THAT WITH THEM.
THERE IS NO CURRENT PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN DONATE THAT.
TYPICALLY YOU HAVE TO DONATE THAT TOWARDS A PARTICULAR PERSON OR CAUSE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES ACCRUE 120 HOURS PER YEAR WITH NO LIMIT, BUT THE SAME ROLE THAT THEY CAN'T TAKE IT WITH THEM.
IF THEY LEAVE, I THINK THEY CAN TAKE IT WITH THEM.
AND IT'S CAPPED AT 720 HOURS RIGHT UP TO, OH, THERE IT IS.
SO THE PAYOUTS ARE AS OUTLINED IN THE SLIDE AND WE KIND OF ALREADY WENT OVER THAT.
SO, AND WE ALSO DID A STUDY ON WHAT OTHER CITIES IN OUR AREA PROVIDE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR THE MOST PART, WE ARE BEHIND IN WHAT WE OFFER OUR EMPLOYEES IN TERMS OF A VACATION AND SICK LEAVE BENEFITS AND THE POTENTIAL PAYOUTS WHEN THEY LEAVE IN GOOD STANDING.
SO, UM, WERE OPEN TO DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.
UM, MY, MY FIRST RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO LET US BRING FORWARD OUR RECOMMENDATIONS DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
AND WE'LL PROBABLY LEAN HEAVILY ON INFORMATION.
WE HAVE ACCUMULATED FOR THIS PRESENTATION TO DEVELOP THOSE, OR, UM, IF YOU WANTED TO PROVIDE US DIRECTION RIGHT NOW, WE CAN, UH, IMPLEMENT THAT INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.
I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING YOUR, YOUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO BRING A POLICY, UM, FORD, ALL RIGHT.
WE WERE ALREADY WORKING ON, ON SIMILAR THINGS AND, UM, THIS WAS PART OF IT.
WE HAVEN'T JUST HAVEN'T FINISHED IT YET.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE THAT'S MY GUESS FOR TOBY'S YEAH, THAT'S A LOT OF HOURS FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE AND THEN OF COURSE THE SICK, UM, BUT THE REASON WHY THOSE HOURS GET ADDED UP SO FAST IS PEAK OR JUST ADD UP IS BECAUSE, UM, SO SERVICES LIKE YOUR POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE CONSTANTLY ON DUTY.
THEY DON'T, THEY ACCUMULATE A LOT OF VACATION, A LOT OF, A LOT OF SICK, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE HALF OF THAT, NOT EVEN THIS CLOSE TO ALL THESE HOURS THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.
UM, THERE'S A INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS.
THEY, THEY DON'T DO THE EIGHT TO FIVE AND YOU HIT THE GATE, YOU KNOW, AND DO YOUR EIGHT AND HIT THE GATE AS THEY SAY, THEY GOT TO STAY BEHIND.
AND, UM, SO I COULD SEE HOW THE, UH, SOME PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT IT LIKE, WELL, HOW COME THEY GET PAID OUT VERSUS THE OTHER? UH, IT'S JUST, UNFORTUNATELY, JUST A DIFFERENT CAREER ON THAT END.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS ON THE, I KNOW IT SEEMS A LITTLE, SOME PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT IT AS UNFAIR.
WE HAD THE SAME DEBATE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH, WITH US IN THE COUNTY.
BUT, UH, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW IS THAT YOU'RE ALREADY DEVELOPING SOME KIND OF NEW PLAN FOR THIS BUDGET TO WORK IN WHAT A COUNCIL MEMBER, FOREST KILZ KIND OF TRYING TO GET AT TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CAPPING CERTAIN ACCRUAL SICK TIME.
AND IF SOMEBODY IS TO SAY I'VE GOT 400 SICK HOURS OR WHATEVER IT IS, I LIKE TO JUST DONATE IT, NOT JUST TO ONE PERSON, BUT INTO A POOL OF EMPLOYEES.
AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, LET'S SAY THEY HAVE FIBULA OR THEY HAVE AN EMERGENCY OR THAT THEY NEEDED.
THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, OF, OF HOURS THAT WE CAN DO THAT PARTICULAR THING.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT WHILE WE ARE LOOKING AT IS ADJUSTING THE ACCRUAL RATES AND ADJUSTING THE PAYOUT POLICY.
IN ADDITION TO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WILL BRING FOR YOU TO ENHANCE OUR EMPLOYEES, BENEFITS THAT I'LL ALSO HAD.
WHAT'D YOU SAY ABOUT THE POLICE IS VERY TRUE, BUT GENERALLY ACROSS THE BOARD, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS OPERATE VERY LEAN AND WE HAVE THAT ISSUE OF TAKING VACATION TIME IS AN ISSUE ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, AND WITH COVID, WE'VE HAD TO LEARN TO NOT, NOT MUSCLE UP AND COME IN SICK ANYMORE.
SO, SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE LARGE ACCUMULATIONS OF SICK LEAVE AND VACATION TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE THOSE BECAUSE WE OPERATE SO LATE.
AND SO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AND MAKE IT MORE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, NOT ONLY WITH OUR SWORN STAFF, BUT WITH OUR CIVILIAN STAFF AS WELL.
YEAH, IT JUST ON A PERSONAL NOTE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THERE'S EVENTS IN THE CITY, AND IF YOU MAY NOT SEE ME THERE, OR IF IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE CHAMBER OR, OR MEETING DURING THE DAY IT'S IT'S BECAUSE WITH MY CAREER, I'M NOT ABLE JUST TO TAKE THOSE VACATION DAYS,
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I'D HAVE TO SOMETIMES ASK MANY, MANY MONTHS IN ADVANCE IF APPROVED, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT.BUT, UH, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF VARIANCES HERE.
WHEN YOU HAVE OUR POLICE WARS, THAT'S ALWAYS CONSTANTLY, YOU'RE 24 7, NO MATTER WHAT, YOU MAY BE OFF, OFF SHIFT THAT DAY, BUT IF THEY NEED YOU, THEY CALL YOU IN YOU'RE ON THE CLOCK.
AND THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY, UH, WE CAN, YOU CAN COME BACK WITH SOMETHING AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS IT EVEN MORE.
UM, AND I APOLOGIZE, I WASN'T TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES AND ORANGES AS FAR AS POLICE OFFICERS, BECAUSE I ALSO WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE MY MIND GOES TO THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BECAUSE THEY WORK EVERY SINGLE HOLIDAY, THOSE PARADES THAT WE LOVE BEFORE THE JULY THAT WE LOVE, THEY DON'T GET TO GO CELEBRATE IT.
SO ALTHOUGH I RE I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS, HAVING TO WORK WORKING IS WORKING AND IT'S PHYSICAL LABOR AND IT'S THEM OUT THERE AND IT'S, AND MAYBE IT'S EVEN ADMIN WORKING THROUGH BUDGET SEASON.
WHEN YOU WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT IN A CITY, YOU WERE WORKING ALL THE TIME ALL THE TIME.
AND I BELIEVE OUR CITY KIND OF LACKS BENEFITS.
AND IF THIS IS A WAY THAT WE CAN SOMEHOW GIVE BACK, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SUPER COSTLY TO THE CITY AND, AND, AND IT CAN HELP US RETAIN.
UM, CAUSE MY FEAR IS, UM, WHEN PEOPLE GET READY TO RETIRE OR LEAVE, THEY'RE GOING TO IMMEDIATELY START TAKING THEIR SICK TIME.
WHY? CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET PAID FOR IT.
SO IF WE CAN KIND OF ALLEVIATE THAT ISSUE AS WELL BY OFFERING THEM A CAPPED AMOUNT OF TIME, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
AND I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT AGAIN FOR ME PERSONALLY, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO MAYBE RETRO IT FROM THE FIRST OF THE YEAR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANY ONE PERSON TO BENEFIT FROM THIS.
I WANT IT TO BE, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE THIS FROM A WHILE AGO.
UM, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION AT GOING BACK.
I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF SANDRA COULD TELL US HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD AFFECT AND HOW THAT, HOW THAT WOULD LOOK COST-WISE.
IF WE CAN GET A COMPARISON FROM RETRO TO, YOU KNOW, CURRENT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK.
I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, YEAH, FOR ME PERSONALLY, IF WE CAN HAVE THINGS LIKE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SERVICE YEARS, SO MAYBE FIVE YEARS, I KNOW IT'S 10 YEARS TO GET IT UPON DEATH OR LIKE DISABILITY.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S A LOT WAITING.
I THINK FIVE YEARS YOU CAN KIND OF GET TENURED IN AND THEN A CAPPED AMOUNT OF HOURS.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, NOT FOR CAUSE, BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU LEAVE OR YOU, YOU RETIRE.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE, YOU WANT TO MAKE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK A POLICY, UM, WITH THE 1, 2, 3, 4 THINGS OR FIVE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT BEING RETROACTIVE FIVE-YEAR MINIMUM SERVICE KEPT AND THEN NOT FIRED FOR COSTS.
UM, JUST BRING THAT BACK AND PRESS TO REVIEW.
DO YOU WANT TO BRING THAT BACK AT A COUNCIL MEETING? ART BUDGET, WORKSHOP, BUDGET, YEAH.
KATE, I MEAN, WE HAVE A BUDGET MEETING THIS WEEKEND EVEN, RIGHT.
DO YOU WANT IT THIS WEEKEND OR DO YOU WANT TO, CAN YOU, WELL, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS CAN YOU DO IT BY THIS WEEKEND? I DON'T WANT TO KNOW.
SO YEAH, IF YOU CAN BRING IT BACK BY NOT THIS BUDGET, BUT THE SECOND BUDGET SESSION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT FOR THEM A SESSION ON, SO THE MOTION IS MADE BY COUNSELOR FLORES, KALE.
SECOND ABOUT A MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE BRING, UH, THE STAFF BRINGS BACK A, UH, A PROPOSAL FOR A PROPOSED POLICY FOR THE ISSUES THAT W W COUNCILLOR FOREST KALE STATED, AND THAT IT COMES ON THE BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR THE 28TH.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? MAY PROTEST A COUPLE OF FINAL THOUGHTS, COMMENTS, UH, YEAH, IT COMES TO WORK.
THERE'S A LOT OF OUR STAFF THAT WORKS HARD, I THINK ABOUT DURING THE SMOKE SNOWPOCALYPSE OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS, BEING OUT THERE IN THE FREEZING, UH, WEATHER AND WORKING DILIGENTLY, CHARGED TO BRING SERVICES BACK ON.
I THINK ABOUT THE IT DEPARTMENT WHEN WE HAD THE FIRE HERE AND THEY'RE SITTING OUT HERE AND THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING IN THESE LITTLE DESK, OUT IN THE ELEMENTS AND TRYING TO GET US BACK ONLINE SERVICES, ALLOWING THE CITY TO FUNCTION AND YEAH, DEFINITELY OUR CITY.
I MEAN, FROM THE LEVEL, THE TOP LEVELS DOWN TO THOSE THAT ARE DOWN ON THE GROUND, JUST WORKING REALLY HARD IN THE WEATHER.
FINDING SOMETHING TO, UH, MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT FORGOTTEN WOULD BE GREAT.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[24. Discussion and possible direction to form Council Compensation Committee per the City Charter and to direct said committee to recommend best practices for Council expense reimbursements as part of their compensation tasks. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24 DISCUSSION[02:10:01]
OF POSSIBLE DIRECTION TO FORM COUNCIL COMPENSATION COMMITTEE PER THE CITY CHARTER INTO DIRECT SAID COMMITTEE TO RECOMMEND BEST PRACTICES FOR COUNCIL EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS AS PART OF THEIR COMPENSATION TASKS.I WANT TO READ OUT THE SECTION 3.09 OF THE CHARTER.
UH, JUST SO THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE IT, HAVE IT READ.
I'M NOT GONNA ASSUME THAT EVERYONE'S READ IT JUST BECAUSE I POSTED THIS ITEM.
UH, UH, AND I WANT TO ALSO REMIND THIS, THIS SECTION WAS ENTIRELY, ALMOST ENTIRELY WRITTEN, UH, IN 2019, PRESENTED TO THE VOTERS IN 2019 A AND PASSED OVERWHELMINGLY, UH, BY THE COMMUNITY.
SO JUST AS THIS HA THIS IS, THIS IS SOMEWHAT FRESH.
UH, EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL SHALL RECEIVE AS COMPENSATION FOR THEIR SERVICES.
THE SALARY ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE ADOPTED AFTER TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, CHANGES TO COUNCIL SALARY SHALL ONLY BE CONSIDERED ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS AND SHALL BE CONSIDERED ONLY AFTER A RECOMMENDATION IS MADE BY COUNCIL APPOINTED COMMITTEE MEETINGS OF SAID, COMMITTEE SHALL BE HELD IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, A SALARY ADJUSTMENT APPROVED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SECTION SHALL BE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEAR.
AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE COUNCIL SALARY ADJUSTMENT SHALL BE FOR THE FIRST DAY OF THE FISCAL YEAR FOR THE BUDGET IN WHICH THE SALARY ADJUSTMENT IS INCLUDED.
COUNCIL IS PROHIBITED FROM AMENDING A BUDGET TO ADJUST COUNCIL SALARY.
A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL THAT IS ABSENT FROM ONE OR MORE MEETINGS IN A CALENDAR MONTH SHALL FORFEIT AND AMOUNT FOR EACH ABSENCE THAT IS PROPORTIONATE TO THE NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEETINGS HELD IN THAT MONTH.
MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL SHALL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THE SALARY ESTABLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRE PRIOR VERSION OF THIS SECTION UNTIL THEIR COMPENSATION HAS CHANGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS SECTION MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL ALSO BE ENTITLED TO REIMBURSEMENT FOR ALL NECESSARY AND APPROVED EXPENSES INCURRED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES.
THERE SHALL BE PROVIDED IN EACH ANNUAL CITY BUDGET AND AMOUNT FOR THE EXPENSES OF THE MAYOR AND FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, THE CITY COUNCIL BY ORDINANCE SHALL PROVIDE A METHOD FOR DETERMINING WHAT EXPENSES ARE REIMBURSABLE AND WHAT REQUIREMENTS MUST BE MET TO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT, NO STAFF OR ASSISTANT SHALL BE PROVIDED FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT IS LIKE FOUR TIMES AS THOROUGH AS WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, UH, 2019.
UH, AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN THAT WE ARE AT OUR THREE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
SO THIS WAS PASSED IN NOVEMBER OF 2019.
UH, WE FORMED THE COMMITTEE, UH, UH, AROUND THIS TIME IN 2000.
UM, I'M SORRY, I GUESS, WAS THIS P W AM I, DO I HAVE MY DATES WRONG? WE ARE AT THE THREE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY, CORRECT? 2020 2021, 2022.
SO, UH, THE TIME HAS COME FOR US TO REFORM THE COMMITTEE, UH, UH, PER THE, PER THE CHARTER.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO ONLY ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS, BUT IT, I OBVIOUSLY WITH ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD AROUND EXPENSES AND REIMBURSEMENTS, SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF FELT, UH, CHALLENGING, UH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS BODY IS TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT, UH, WHAT AN ELIGIBLE REIMBURSEMENT IS OR WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT FORM THAT SHOULD TAKE.
UH, THERE'S BEEN COMMUNICATION ABOUT STATE LAW, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE LAW, WHICH WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO.
UH, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AND, AND STATEMENTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE AS IT RELATES TO REIMBURSEMENTS AND EXPENSES, BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THAT I, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, I PROBABLY ONLY SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FOR MAYBE 10% OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF EXPENSES THAT I COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, 80% OF MY CELL PHONE IS USED FOR CITY BUSINESS.
UM, I CONDUCT A LOT OF MY MEETINGS REMOTELY, UH, AT HOME WITHOUT INTERNET.
I WOULD BE ALL VIRTUALLY DISABLED.
I THINK MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY, AND I'M NOT MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT IT'S THIS, IT'S ALMOST OUTSIDE THE SCOPE.
AND THERE'S A REASON WHY THIS CHARTER PROVISION WAS WRITTEN THE WAY THAT IT WAS.
IT ALLOWS FOR STAFF AND A COMMITTEE THAT WE FORMED TO ENGAGE ON THESE TOPICS AND TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO US, UH, PROVIDES FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY IN THAT MANNER.
AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING TO BE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND GET THIS COMMITTEE FORMED, UH, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET PREPARATION SEASON, UH, AND THEN ALSO TASK THEM.
AND ONE THING I DIDN'T PUT IN THE HEADING HERE, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TASK THEM WITH PROVIDING US WITH COST CENTERS, WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THIS BUDGET, BUT AS I READ IT, UH, IT SAYS THAT THERE, UM, UM, UM, THERE SHOULD BE, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO READ IT.
UM, YEAH, THERE SHALL BE PROVIDED IN EACH ANNUAL CITY BUDGET AND AMOUNT FOR THE EXPENSES
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OF THE MAYOR AND FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY CLEARLY DEFINED IN OUR BUDGET WHERE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS THEIR OWN COST CENTER, BUT THE WAY I READ IT IN SECTION 3.09, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, THAT WE PUT IN THERE AS WELL.
SO MY HOPE WAS TO HAVE US FORM A COMMITTEE, THE WAY THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE FORMED, LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR WOULD BE EACH OF US MAKE A NOMINATION, WE HAVE THEM MEET AND GO THROUGH IT.
UH, CAUSE I THINK STAFF HAS FELT LIKE STAFF WANTS TO HAVE INVOLVEMENT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE FINAL SAY THEY RECORD STAFF RECOGNIZES THAT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS AND UH, STAFF AND STAFF POLICIES RELATED TO REIMBURSEMENTS.
UH, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF FACTORS THAT ARE DIFFERENT.
A COMMITTEE COULD, THAT WE WOULD CREATE, COULD PROVIDE THE GO BETWEEN TO ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL HOURS AND SEVERAL MEETINGS DEVOTED SPECIFICALLY TO THIS TOPIC.
SO THAT'S WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING TO BE.
UH, AND THEN THEY COULD GIVE US THEIR RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT KIND OF POLICY THAT WE SHOULD ADOPT RELATED TO, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS EXPENSES AND THE LIKE WHAT SHOULD BE AUTHORIZED, WHAT SHOULD NOT BE AUTHORIZED, YOU KNOW, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO TAKE, UM, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS OF THINGS LIKE, UM, CELL PHONES OR VEHICLES OR FUEL, UM, AND, AND THEY COULD WEIGH IT.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHTS.
I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE NOMINATIONS AT, WE COULD BRING THEM FORWARD AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAVE, WHICH I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING ON THURSDAY.
WHAT IS OUR MEETING ON THURSDAY? WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT THURSDAY.
WE HAVE MEETINGS THIS SATURDAY.
WE COULD JUST BRING FORWARD THE NOMINATIONS, UH, ON SATURDAY AND THEN GIVE SOME OUTLINES FOR HOW OFTEN, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DECIDE HOW OFTEN, HOW LONG THEY WANT TO MEET, BUT THERE IS SORT OF AN END DATE IN ORDER FOR IT TO COMPLY WITH THE CHARTER AND BE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO IT JUST HAS TO COME BY SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT DATE IS FINAL READING OF THE BUDGET, UH, DO NOT KNOW THAT PREVENTS HIM BET PROVIDES KNOWS WHEN A BUDGET IS SCHEDULED TO BE APPROVED.
FINALLY, I THINK IT WAS BY THE END OF AUGUST, RIGHT? SO THERE'S SIX WEEKS.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S TIME, FIVE TO SIX WEEKS THERE'S TIME FOR A COMMITTEE TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THAT COULD ALSO COULD HELP POTENTIALLY D UM, INTENSIFY THE CONVERSATION THAT WE MIGHT BE FEELING HERE ON THE DICE, UH, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
[25.
[Postponed 7/5/2022] Update on the status regarding staff's creation of the City Council's credit card policy. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member and Travis Mitchell, Mayor
On April 19, 2022, Council directed staff to put City Council expenses on the City’s website and to bring back a Council expense policy for review and adoption. Motion carried 7-0.
]WE WERE TO APPROVE, UM, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, CREATION OF THIS COMMITTEE, HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT ITEM 25? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THAT'S UP TO US.SO THERE THERE'S BEEN A PROPOSED CREDIT CARD POLICY.
UH, THERE'S A DRAFT THAT'S THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WAS EMAILED TO US, BUT THERE THERE'S JUST A LOT OF LAYERS AND ELEMENTS TO THAT THAT I THINK MERITS SOME PRETTY SERIOUS DISCUSSION.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT US DISCUSSING OUR OWN, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS, WHAT IS, AND ISN'T A REIMBURSEMENT IS REALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE CHARTER.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THE, MY THOUGHTS CAME.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT, WE CERTAINLY COULD GO THAT ROUTE.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, FOR ONE, I MEAN, MAYBE OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT CAN, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE THAT STARTED ALL THIS WAS NOT SUBMITTING RECEIPTS.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED OR IS HAPPENING AT ALL FROM THIS DIOCESE.
SO AS FAR AS THE PRESSURE FROM LIKE TRYING TO CHANGE SOME CURRENT ACTION RELATED TO SUBMITTING RECEIPTS, IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY AN ISSUE THAT WE FACE.
SO I DON'T S NECESSARILY SENSE THE URGENCY IF WE PASS A POLICY WITHOUT REALLY THINKING IT THROUGH, WE MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MORE SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT REIMBURSEMENTS AND EXPENSES AND COMPENSATION.
SO, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO HAVE THIS BODY PROVIDE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION FOR US THAT CONSIDERS WHAT IS AN AUTHORIZED EXPENSE, WHAT IS NOT AN AUTHORIZED EXPENSE? WHAT FORM WOULD THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS SHOULD THEY TAKE? FOR EXAMPLE, IS IF, IF THERE IS, IF WE ARE, UM, INCURRING FUEL CHARGES AND, AND VEHICLE WEAR AND TEAR, SHOULD WE, UH, BE EXPENSING A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE THINGS? UH, UH, AND, AND WHAT SHOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND IF NOT, SHOULD THAT BE IN ALLOWING AN ALLOWANCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN A COST CENTER AND, AND, AND STAFF CAN GO INTO DETAIL DISCUSSING THE DIFFERENT PROS AND CONS OF THOSE ITEMS WITH THE COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE WHO'S NOT, WHO DOES NOT STAND TO BENEFIT OR NOT BENEFIT FROM IT CAN TAKE A REMOVED VIEW, WHICH IS THEY DID BY THE WAY IT THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED ALL THIS COUNSELOR, TOBY, IT WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE.
UM, THEY DID A GREAT JOB, I THINK, OF REALLY GOING THROUGH AND RECOMMENDING VARIOUS THINGS.
THERE WERE PEOPLE ON THE HIGHER
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END PEOPLE ON THE LOWER END, AND ULTIMATELY THEY SORT OF FROM THE COMPROMISE INTO A MIDDLE AND BROUGHT FORWARD A REALLY WELL THOUGHT OUT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.AND THAT COUNCIL WAS PRETTY INSTANTLY, YOU KNOW, UH, OR IT WAS, IT WAS ADOPTED ULTIMATELY, BUT IT, IT, IT PROVIDED A PATH FOR, UH, LOTS OF COMMUNITY INPUT AND FEEDBACK.
SO THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY IN THAT.
AND SO I WOULD THINK COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY US WOULD AGREE THAT THAT WAS VERY TRANSPARENT, THE WAY THAT WE WENT ABOUT IT, EVEN IF EVERYBODY DIDN'T AGREE ON THE AMOUNTS AND THE DOLLARS, IT WAS TRANSPARENT.
UH, AND IT ALLOWED FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO WEIGH IN THIS WHOLE SECTION READS TO ME THE WAY, THE WAY IT READS IS IT'S, IT'S DESIGNED TO PUT RESTRAINTS ON US SO THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONES MAKING OUR OWN DETERMINATIONS ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE HEARD THIS DICE SAY.
UH, UH, OVER THE PAST FEW TIMES THAT THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.
I JUST THINK MAYBE FOR ME, I, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T REALLY CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THE TIME HAS COME FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE SHOULD INCORPORATE THE REIMBURSEMENT POLICY AS SORT OF A PRIMARY TASK OF THE COMMITTEE IF WE WERE TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, I JUST READ THE ITEM 25 BACKUP MATERIAL, AND I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE CAN BE ADDED TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS JUST A DRAFT THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO VOTE ON TODAY BECAUSE IT KIND OF TIES UP TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, THAT DRAFT FOR ITEM 25 HAS LISTED ALL THE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE REIMBURSED.
THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T BE REIMBURSED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GOING TO EVENTUALLY DISCUSS, BUT THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP IS BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO CREATE A COMMITTEE TO SEE WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE, UM, WHO IS GOING TO FORM THAT COMMITTEE, ARE WE BEING APPOINTED TO DO THAT COMMITTEE? ARE WE APPOINTING SOMEBODY ELSE TO BE THAT COMMITTEE? RIGHT? SO BY THE CHARTER, WE ARE TO A POINT A COMMITTEE ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS TO REVIEW OUR COMPENSATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST READING OUT.
SO THE WAY WE WOULD DO IT IS EACH OF US WOULD HAVE A NOMINEE THAT WE WOULD BRING FORWARD ALL AT ONCE.
AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE A VOTE TO CREATE THE COMMITTEE THAT COMMITTEE WOULD MEET SUBJECT TO THE OPEN MEETINGS, ACT PUBLICLY TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD IN THE MERITS AND DEMERITS OF IT, BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE THINGS I WOULD WANT TO PUSH BACK ON IN THAT PROPOSAL.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S ALL BAD, BUT IT'S DESIGNED, UH, AS A SORT OF A STAFF DOCUMENT AND IT PUTS RESTRICTIONS ON THE COUNCIL THAT I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THE COUNCIL NECESSARILY WANTS TO HAVE PUT ON IT, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A COMMITTEE WHO TAKES A LOOK AT THAT AND CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE DRY CLEANING THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, EVENT THAT WE DO, SHOULD WE, SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE ALLOW FOR REIMBURSEMENT? IF THERE ARE FUEL CHARGES, HOW SHOULD WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT? THEY, UH, THAT PARTICULAR FUEL REIMBURSEMENT POLICY THAT'S IN THAT'S IN PLACE, UH, IS VERY CUMBERSOME.
AND IT'S DESIGNED FOR ESSENTIALLY FOR IT TO NOT BE THE CASE THAT YOU CAN HAVE A FUEL REIMBURSEMENT.
SO IF THAT IS NOT THE CASE, IF COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SPENDING A LOT, COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T HAVE OFFICES.
SO IF I HAVE 10, 15 MEETINGS IN A, IN A WEEK, I'M EITHER USING MY OWN PERSONAL INTERNET, MY OWN PERSONAL VEHICLE, MY OWN PERSONAL PHONE TO, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, TO PERFORM THE DUTIES OF MAJORING AND THE COUNCIL WOULD BE AN EXACT SAME POSITION, I WOULD ASSUME.
SO I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO WEIGH IN ON ALL OF THAT AND TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO IF WE WERE GOING TO FOLLOW THAT PATH, IT SEEMS, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, ADOPTING THE POLICY BEFORE WE SET THEM OUT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE POLICY WOULD, SHOULD BE.
DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE, BUT THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON IT.
I WOULD RATHER HAVE A COMMITTEE DISCUSS IT, THEN US UP HERE, TRY TO DISCUSS WHAT IS AND IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
I'M SORRY, I'M ASKING MORE QUESTIONS.
SO WILL WE BE APPOINTING SOMEBODY LIKE WE DID WITH, UH, ETHICS COMMITTEE? CORRECT.
JUST THERE'S JUST LIKE THE ETHICS COMMITTEE.
EVERYONE GETS THEIR OWN NOMINEE, BUT IT'S SUBJECT TO CONFIRMATION FROM THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AND WILL THEY BE, BE ABLE TO WORK WITH STAFF? CAUSE I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR THAT PROPOSAL THAT WE JUST GOT, I WILL STICK TO THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT IF I COULD, BESIDES I JUST READ IT.
AND I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT I THOUGHT I WANT IS PAPER FOR MY PRINTER BECAUSE I PRINT EVERYTHING IN ORDER TO WRITE STUFF DOWN.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF CD CAN GIVE ME PAPER AND I DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT.
BUT, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.
I READ THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
IF I COULD HIDE IT, LIKE ON FACEBOOK, YOU LIKE STUFF, I COULD HAVE DONE THAT, BUT SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE, WHO WAS PART OF THE COMMITTEE THREE YEARS AGO? DID THEY DO THE CREDIT CARD POLICY TOGETHER BACK THEN? NO, THEY, AT THAT POINT THEY WERE JUST FOCUSED ON COMPENSATION.
IN FACT, I THINK THEY MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON POTENTIALLY ON ALLOWANCES.
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I'M NOT SURE, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT WAS THE CASE THAT WE WANTED, THERE WANTED TO BE A PROPOSAL FOR A FUEL ALLOWANCE, AS A, AS OPPOSED TO SAYING YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, UH, EXPENSE FUEL, THIS WOULD BE YOUR FUEL ALLOWANCE IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW.UH, WE WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD NEED TO COME FROM THIS COMMITTEE AND THAT'S TIED INTO CREDIT CARD.
SO IT'S KIND OF ALL, IT'S ALL CONNECTED.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE A COMMITTEE THAT IT REMOVES, IT REMOVES US FROM THIS CONVERSATION AND LET THEM MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I'M NOT SAYING I WOULD LIKE WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE OR THAT YOU WOULD LIKE WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THEM TO GO INTO IT IN MORE DETAIL AND WE CAN ASSIGN STAFF JUST LIKE WE DID LAST TIME TO GO AND PROVIDE THAT.
I ALSO THINK STAFF WOULD PROBABLY PREFER TO WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE AS OPPOSED TO COMING UP HERE IN A COUNCIL MEETING AND HAVING, AND BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL WITH US.
BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE TEMPTED TO WANT TO GET STAFF, TO SAY CERTAIN THINGS, TO SUPPORT OUR WORLDVIEWS AND STAFF WOULD PROBABLY FEEL INFINITELY, MORE COMFORTABLE MEETING IN PUBLIC WITH A COMMITTEE THAT WE FORM BECAUSE THAT COMMITTEE IS NOT GOING TO HAVE SORT OF THE EMOTION OR THE THOUGHTS OF PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER ACTIONS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CORRECT.
OR MAYBE CURRENT PRACTICES THAT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER OR ANOTHER IS PARTICIPATING IN, THAT THEY DON'T AGREE WITH AND THEY WANT TO STOP.
IT JUST, IT'S A MORE FAIR JUST PROCESS FOR US TO GO THROUGH WITH THE COMMITTEE AS MY THOUGHTS.
I'M SORRY, IS THAT I AGREE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVING ANOTHER PERSON REVIEWING THIS WILL MAKE MORE SENSE.
THE ONLY THING I DO WANT TO ASK IS FOR MR. PRESS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE WHOLE PROCESS.
OKAY, MS. MARCY, FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS ACTUALLY ON THE COMMITTEE, I COULD HAVE ASKED HER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS.
EVERYTHING THAT YOUR, THAT TRAVIS SAID, YES.
WE GET TO PICK THE PEOPLE, WE GET POINT THE PEOPLE FOR THE, UH, FOR THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.
UM, AND THEY DO MEET, UH, WITHOUT COUNCIL.
THEY WERE, THEY HAVE ALL THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO USE.
CAUSE AGAIN, I WAS SELECTED TO BE ON THIS FIRST ORIGINAL, UH, COMPENSATION COMMITTEE.
I MEAN, MAYOR MITCHELL, UH, MENTIONED A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DID A LOT OF INVESTIGATION LAW, THOROUGH RESEARCH IN OTHER CITIES COMPARED THE, UH, STIPENDS THAT WERE, UH, PROPOSED.
UH, WHAT WAS ALSO PROPOSED ABOUT, OKAY, WAS THE IDEA OF INSURANCE, UH, TO BE HEADED AND SO FORTH.
UM, SO WE REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT CITIES AND GOT WITH INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MUCH, UH, COMPENSATION DOES YOUR MARY GET.
DO THEY GET, UH, YOU KNOW, ALLOWANCE FOR TRAVEL AND SO FORTH ON THAT END? SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THESE NUMBERS ADDED UP ON THAT END.
SO I THINK, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THIS COMPETENCE, THIS COMPETENCE COMMITTEE NOW, AND THESE IDEAS OF THE CREDIT CARD, UH, ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING AND THE RECEIPTS AND EVERYTHING, I THINK IT'S NOW TIME, AND THIS COULD BE THE PERFECT TIME TO FINALIZE ALL THAT AND PUT IT ALL IN A POLICY OF WHAT IS REQUIRED TO RECEIVE A STIPEND.
WHAT IS, WHAT KIND OF REIMBURSEMENT COUNCILS ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UH, ALSO WHAT KIND OF LIMITS, UH, IF A CREDIT CARD IS STILL TO BE USED OR SO FORTH IN, AND ALSO IF, UM, WHAT QUALIFIES ALSO FOR REIMBURSEMENT, IS IT OFFICE SUPPLIES? IS IT A PHONE? IS IT SOMETHING TO WHERE WE TRAVEL MEALS, ET CETERA, AND ALL THAT? I DON'T THINK IT WAS ALL SPECIFIED WHEN WE HAD, UH, POSSIBLY MAY HAVE BEEN IN THERE IN THE COVER ROAD IN DETAIL.
AND THEN WE ALSO, MS. MARCY GOT, UH, INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THEY WERE ABLE TO COME UP AND DO PUBLIC SPEAKING AND ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE, THEIR SUPPORT OR THEIR DISAPPROVAL, AND SOME GAVE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS SO HUGE.
THEY WERE ABLE TO BE BIPARTISAN ON THAT END WITH NO COUNCIL, UH, UM, INPUT.
THEY WERE ABLE TO, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND COME UP WITH DIFFERENT FORMULATIONS ON WHAT WOULD BE BEST SERVED FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, I KNOW A LOT OF THE ISSUES WERE WELL, YOU'RE HERE JUST TO SERVE.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME NOW DOING THE WORK ITSELF, IT IS KIND OF LIKE A FULL-TIME JOB, YOU KNOW, IN THAT SENSE.
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FAIR AS FAR AS THE COMPENSATION AND SO FORTH.BUT I THINK IF WE, UM, TRY TO GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THIS COMMITTEE, EVERYTHING THAT I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALE HAS BROUGHT UP WITH CARD, THE CREDIT CARDS, AND ALSO WITH EVERYTHING WE CAN PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND THAT, UM, POLICY THAT'S, THERE COULD BE THEIR BLUEPRINT THAT COULD BE THEIR BLUEPRINT TO WHERE THEY CAN SAY, HEY, LOOK, THERE'S SOMETHING ALREADY IN PLACE.
CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
WE JUST WAS JUST LIKE, HEY, WRITING DOWN NOTES, LET'S JUST GO WITH IT AND MEET UP.
BUT NOW THERE'S ALREADY POLICIES IN PLACE.
THEY CAN REVIEW THE CITY CREDIT CARD POLICY, THEY CAN REVIEW THIS.
THEY CAN ALSO REVIEW WHAT THE CHARTER STATES AND GO IN AND THEY CAN MAKE A BETTER INFORMED DECISION TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE ALL OUR CLIFF NOTES TOGETHER AND WE CAN ALL PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN BRING IT AS A PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL TO VOTE ON
UM, I JUST GOT SOME RESPONSES TO A FEW THINGS THAT WERE SAID.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE SECTION 3.09, DOESN'T SAY IT HAS TO BE A COMMITTEE.
IT JUST SAYS THE CITY COUNCIL BY ORDINANCE SHALL PROVIDE A METHOD FOR DETERMINING WHAT EXPENSES HAVE AND WHAT REQUIREMENTS MUST BE MET TO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENTS.
SO, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT ANTI COMMITTEE, I'M JUST SAYING IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A COMMITTEE.
UM, SECONDARY, THE F THE LAST COMMITTEE WAS NOT, IT WAS ONLY FOR COMPENSATION.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNICATION.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS SIMPLE AS JUST, HEY, LET'S CALL IT SAN MARCUS AND SEE HOW MUCH THEY MAKE.
IS IT OKAY IF I, CAUSE I WANT TO, I WANT TO CLARIFY WHY IF YOU WANT TO FINISH, THAT'S FINE.
BUT AT THAT POINT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY WHY I THINK IT IS, YOU CAN FINISH IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT TO FINISH.
I KNOW I'M NOT TRYING TO, I'M NOT TRYING TO STOP YOU, RIGHT.
I'M JUST SAYING SO IN EXP FUEL, LET'S TALK ABOUT FUEL, RIGHT? SO I HAVE USED THE CITI CARD TO REIMBURSE MYSELF FOR CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF FUEL, DEPENDING ON WHERE I'M GOING OR WHAT I'M DOING, RIGHT.
IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THAT IS PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE UNLESS THERE'S A MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT THAT THAT IS FOLLOWED IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.
SO I'VE STOPPED USING W UH, FUEL THE IND AROUND THE FIX TO THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE THE WAY THE MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT WORKS, STAFF RARELY USE.
I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE STAFF MEMBERS WHO HAVE THAT POLICY IN PLACE SAY IT'S TOO CUMBERSOME.
AND THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS TO FUEL THE OUTSIDE OF JUST YOUR MILEAGE.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE OFFICES EVERYWHERE WE DRIVE IS ON OUR PERSONAL VEHICLES, AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO BE COMPENSATED, BUT THROUGH THIS REIMBURSEMENT POLICY, IF IT WAS THE CASE THAT, UH, WE WANTED TO GO WITH A FUEL ALLOWANCE, THAT'S A W2 REPORTED INCOME, WHICH IS ALSO COMPENSATION OF SOME FORM, WHICH WE CANNOT GIVE TO OURSELVES WITHOUT A COMPENSATION COMMITTEE.
SO THAT'S MY POINT IS TO SAY THAT IN MY VIEW, THEY ARE SOMEWHAT TIED.
AND THAT'S WHY I CAME TO THE IDEA OF WANTING TO BRING THE COMMITTEE FORWARD.
IT WAS ON THE FUEL ISSUE, UH, AND REALIZING THAT ONLY THE COMMITTEE CAN LOOK AT ALL OF THE FACTORS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THOSE FACTORS.
AND STAFF CAN'T JUST PROPOSE IT IN THE BUDGET FOR A FUEL ALLOWANCE.
I WILL SAY, I THINK STUFF IS A GREAT RESOURCE BECAUSE THEY SEE WHAT WE SPEND.
THEY KNOW WHAT WE SPEND AND THEY HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
SO MAYBE IF ALONG THE WAY WE HAVE THIS COMMITTEE AND WE SUBMIT THOSE CREDIT CARDS, THEY CAN SEE WHAT WE SPEND ON.
I THINK THEY SHOULD DEFINITELY SEE EACH COUNCIL MEMBERS EXPENSES.
I WAS LIKE, WAIT PER NO PRINTER.
NO, BUT THEN I THOUGHT, OKAY, I COULD JUST ORDER THAT MINE WAS ORDERED THROUGH THE CITY.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW, I DIDN'T GO AND PUT IT ON THE CREDIT CARD, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T HAVE A PRINTER OR INK.
IT JUST MEANS THE WAY WE SHOULD DO IT SHOULD BE THROUGH THE CITY.
WELL, OR ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING IT IS EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS VERY DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THEY WANT TO BE REIMBURSED FOR, BECAUSE FOR ME, I DON'T PRINT OR USE THAT AND WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE JUST DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE COST CENTERS COME INTO PLAY OF.
YOU HAVE ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE YOUR OWN BUDGET.
THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS WITHIN THAT BUDGET THAT YOU CAN'T EXCEED.
AND AS LONG AS YOU STAY WITHIN THAT, YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT DISCRETION ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE.
THAT'S WHERE THE WHAT'S AUTHORIZED AND NOT AUTHORIZED.
FOR EXAMPLE, FOR ME, IT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, I WEAR A LOT OF SUITS FOR, YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF FUNCTIONS.
AND SO DRY CLEANING MIGHT MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
UH, BUT FOR YOU, IT MIGHT BE PRINTING BECAUSE YOU, YOU PREFER THAT.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO STOP YOU FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO STOP ME, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A BUDGET SO THAT WE ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT ON THE AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO REIMBURSE.
UM, I WANT TO JUST REMIND THAT THIS IS NOT A FULL-TIME JOB.
SO THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO FALL INTO IS WE'RE GOING TO GET TOO, HANDS-ON IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE 10 TO 15 MINUTE MEETINGS A WEEK THAT IS OPTIONAL THIS JOB WHEN WE TOOK IT.
UH, I KNOW WHEN YOU TOOK, IT WAS WHAT,
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A HUNDRED DOLLARS SALARY STIPEND, MAYBE EVEN, UM, IT'S NOW GONE UP.UM, AND, AND I THINK THE CHARTER AND THE WAY THE CITIES, MOST CITIES WORK IS THEY DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A FULL-TIME JOB THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS CITY MANAGER RUN IS, IS THAT WAY FOR A VERY PARTICULAR REASON.
AND SO MY FEAR IS, IF WE START EXPENSING THESE THINGS, WE'RE GOING TO START MAKING THIS OUR LIFE.
SOMETIMES I CAN'T MAKE IT TO ALL THE MEETINGS I CAN CAUSE I WORK, YOU KNOW, I WORK, I HAVE KIDS.
I WANT TO BE THERE AS MUCH AS THE NEXT PERSON, BUT MY LIFE JUST DOES NOT ALLOW THAT BECAUSE I DO WORK.
UM, AND, AND WHEN I SAY THAT, THAT'S NOT SAYING NOBODY ELSE HERE WORKS.
I'M SAYING I HAVE LIKE A REGULAR EIGHT TO FIVE JOB.
AND SO EIGHT TO 10, WHATEVER HOURS I GOT TO WORK THAT DAY.
BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS POSITION WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A FULL-TIME.
IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A PAID OUT.
IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE 10 TO 15 MEETINGS A WEEK.
SO ALTHOUGH I CAN APPRECIATE TRULY, TRULY APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR HAND IN THE BUSINESSES AND YOU UNDERSTAND IT, WHICH I THINK IS LIKE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNCIL.
THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE SHOULD REARRANGE OUR PAY BASED ON THE, THE MINIMAL PEOPLE.
LIKE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE DOES THAT.
MAYBE, MAYBE THEY DO, BUT, UM, I CERTAINLY DON'T DO THAT AND NOT TRUE.
UH, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU FRAME THE QUESTION.
IF THE QUESTION IS FRAMED TO THE PUBLIC, DO YOU THINK THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE TO PAY OUT OF THEIR PERSONAL RESOURCES IN ORDER TO DO THEIR JOB? THEN THE PUBLIC WOULD SAY NO, LIKE IF YOU'RE, YOU SHOULD, YOU HAVE TO LIKE PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN OFFICE.
AND SO ALL OF YOUR WORK REQUIRES DATA AND AN INTERNET AND YOU EMAIL AND USE YOUR DATA A LOT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY SHOULD REIMBURSE YOU FOR? BECAUSE WHILE YOU ARE NOT A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE OR AN EMPLOYEE, YOU ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS OF IMMENSE VALUE.
AND THERE SHOULD BE SOME LEVEL WHERE YOU'RE NOT BEING FORCED TO PAY OUT OF YOUR PERSONAL RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, OR THAT SHOULD BE WHAT THE COMMITTEE TAKES A LOOK AT IS, IS MY POINT.
I DO NOT ANTICIPATE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME CRAZY THING.
MY FEAR IS GOING TO COME BACK AND IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN STRICTER THAN WHAT PEREZ.
AND THAT IS, THAT IS DEFINITELY A POSSIBILITY.
UM, AND, AND I'M OKAY WITH IT EITHER WAY, YOU KNOW, I RAN AND WHEN I RAN THE FIRST TIME, I KNEW WHAT THEY MADE.
YOU KNOW, I KNEW THAT THERE WAS VERY MINIMAL.
UM, AND I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I TALKED TO TODD WEBSTER AND HE TOLD ME HOW MUCH HE MADE.
I WAS LIKE, MAN, YOU'VE GOTTA BE DOING THAT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO.
AND ULTIMATELY THAT'S THE TRUTH WHERE YOU, YOU KEEP THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING IT.
UM, WELL, NO, NOBODY IN THIS REIMBURSEMENT POLICY IS TRYING TO GET RICH HERE.
WE'RE ALL DOING IT BECAUSE WE WANT, SO, SO I GUESS MY COMMENT TO THAT IS I ALREADY HAVE INTERNET.
UM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT I ALREADY UTILIZED.
UM, CELL PHONES, LOOK, I KIND OF GET IT.
I USE MY CELL PHONE, UH, FOR A CITY STUFF ALL THE TIME, BUT DO WE WANT A SEPARATE CITY CELL PHONE BECAUSE THAT, THAT MAY BE WHAT IT'S REQUIRED.
UM, WELL, AND THEN ALSO, IF THE CITY IS REIMBURSING YOU FOR YOUR CELL PHONE, THEN IS YOUR ENTIRE CELL PHONE SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS, OPEN RECORDS, ALL KINDS OF, THERE'S A REASON WHY THAT WOULD BE, YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
I'M JUST THROWING OUT CONCEPTS THAT I THINK THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE GOOD TO DISCUSS.
SO I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER DANIELLA PARSLEY SAID.
AND I WOULD LIKE, I'M OKAY WITH THE COMMITTEE.
AND I THINK THERE'S, THERE NEEDS TO BE SEVEN IF WE ALL ARE REPRESENTED.
UM, I THOUGHT I HEARD FOUR, BUT I THINK SEVEN.
IF WE COULD EACH HAVE SOMEONE, UH, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF NOMINEE TEMPLATE, THIS WILL BE THE TEMPLATE.
THIS WILL BE THE STARTING GUIDELINES.
THEY WILL WORK WITH, UH, PEREZ.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO THINK THEY NEED TO SEE WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY SPENT.
THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE USE THESE, THE CARDS THE WAY WE DO, YOU KNOW, I'M VERY FRIVOLOUS, BUT I DO BUY INK, YOU KNOW, I BUY TONER AND THAT'S SOMEONE MIGHT LOOK AT IT AND BE LIKE, SHE SPENT $200 ON TONER, BUT HERE I SIT WITH ALL THIS PAPER.
I THINK IT'S GREAT TO GET A NON-BIASED OPINION.
SO LONG AS THIS AMAZING DOCUMENT THAT I I'M ASSUMING PEREZ CREATED IS, UM, IS A BEGINNING STARTING POINT.
AND AS LONG AS PEREZ IS THERE, UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
BUT WE DON'T BECAUSE WE'RE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I DON'T KNOW, JUST MENTIONED TO A COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO WE, AS, UM, INSTEAD OF APPOINTING ANOTHER PERSON, CAN WE JUST LET OUR ETHICS APPOINTEES NO, BY CHARTER, THEY CANNOT SERVE ON ANY OTHER COMMITTEE.
UH, ETHICS IS LIKE A WHOLE SEPARATE THING, SO IT CAN BE ANYONE, BUT YOUR ETHICS NOMINEE STRANGELY ENOUGH.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO I JUST THOUGHT I'M PRETTY SURE IN THE CHARTER, IT SAYS THAT THEY CAN'T BE ON ANY OTHER COMMITTEES CUTS WHERE BRADSHAW, SORRY,
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I JUST WANT IT.I JUST WANT MORE TIME THAN TO HAVE A NOMINEE BY SATURDAY.
I WOULD SAY MAYBE BUDGET MEETING NEXT THURSDAY, MAYBE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT SATURDAY, LIKE, I NEED TO THINK, LIKE, I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND NOT EVERYBODY IS JUMPING, YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN TO VOLUNTEER, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY, CAN WE GET THEM DINNERS OR BREAKFAST OR LUNCH CARDS? YEAH.
SO HOW ABOUT THURSDAY THAT GIVES US, THAT GIVES YOU A NINE DAYS.
IS THERE, IS THERE WHEN WE ASK THAT OUR NOMINEE, IS THERE SOME INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM AS FAR AS LIKE HOURS OR? YEAH, AND THIS ISN'T A, LIKE, WE CAN'T TALK TO OUR NOMINEE OR THE GROUP.
LIKE, I WOULD LOVE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY TO THE GROUP IF THEY WANTED IT.
THEY, THEY CALLED AND ASKED QUESTIONS.
HOW MANY HOURS DO YOU WORK A WEEK? THEY WANTED TO KNOW THEY WANT, CAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE JOB.
ONE THING THAT'S UNANIMOUS ACROSS THIS DIOCESE THAT NO ONE KNOWS THE JOB UNTIL THEY GET THE JOB, YOU KNOW? AND SO I'VE HEARD THOSE STATEMENTS FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON UP HERE THAT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS.
AND EVERYONE OUT THERE LIKES TO CAST JUDGMENTS UNTIL THEY GET HERE.
AND THEY REALIZE THAT IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, THERE'S A LOT TO IT.
AND UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE WOULD CORRESPOND WITH THEM, BUT IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THEM WHO MAKES THE RECOMMENDATION MAY PROTEST.
I, YOU KNOW, I'M SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT THIS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE GUIDELINES.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOMETHING SET IN STONE ON WHAT WE CAN DO PURCHASE WISE.
CAUSE I'M SCARED TO USE MY CARD.
I MEAN, I, I DROVE IN FROM AUSTIN FOUR TIMES TODAY AND PUT GAS OUT OF MY POCKET AND MY TRUCKS $125 TO FILL IT UP.
SO I, I JUST, I'M JUST SCARED TO USE MY CARD BECAUSE THERE'S NO SET POLICY THERE.
AND UH, UM, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.
UH, I SHOULD HAVE USED MY CARD A LOT MORE AND I'M JUST SCARED TO USE IT.
I MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE USING IT, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST.
I'M SECURITY IS THAT THING TO BE FAIR.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE HANDED BY PEREZ, THIS IS EVERY POLICY PUT TOGETHER EXCEPT FOR TWO THINGS.
THERE ARE POLICIES WHETHER WE KNOW THEM AND WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THEM IS ANOTHER THING.
BUT MOST OF THIS COMES FROM POLICIES WITHIN THE CITY.
I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT ARE NOT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE ARE POLICIES.
BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO PUT THEM ALL IN ONE, MAKE IT VERY WELL.
AND I, I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR.
I KNOW Y'ALL MAY NOT THINK THAT I DO.
I DON'T WANT US TO RUSH TO A POLICY THAT RESTRICTS THE COUNCIL IN A WAY THAT WE DID NOT INTEND OR THAT, THAT IS INTENDED TO BE PUNITIVE TOWARDS ONE MEMBER OR ANOTHER.
I WOULD RE I JUST THAT'S, THAT'S MY WHOLE POINT, BUT I TH I THINK THE CLARITY IS GOOD TO GIVE US THAT BECAUSE THIS NEEDS TO GET PUT BEHIND US.
SO YES, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, TO SELECT A COUNCIL COMPENSATION COMMITTEE THAT WOULD ALSO REVIEW ALL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, REFERENCING COMPENSATION FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, INCLUDING CREDIT, ANY REIMBURSEMENTS, UM, AND POLICIES THAT FALL IN LINE WITH THE CHARTER.
A SECOND ABOUT CUSTOMER FLOORS KILLS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
UM, THE COMMITTEE IS CREATED, BUT WITH THIS VOTE, BUT THERE'S STILL NO ONE SERVING.
SO IT'S A, IT'S AN EMPTY COMMITTEE.
WE'LL STILL NEED TO APPROVE THE NOMINEES, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING, OR I'M SORRY, ON THURSDAY.
AND THEN WHAT I WOULD ALSO SAY IS, UM, WE PROBABLY WANT TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION FOR WHEN TO BRING BACK THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
JUST ONE LAST COMMENT WHEN WE GET, YEAH.
MAY PROTESTS JUST A REAL QUICK.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE HOURS WE PUT IN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THESE FIRST OUTLINES FIRST CAME OUT.
I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED TO THE COUNCIL, I WAS AT THE HUNDRED DOLLAR MARK AS WELL, AND I WAS DOING THIS FOR SERVICE.
UM, SINCE THEN WE'VE GROWN EXPONENTIALLY.
WE'RE NOW A CITY OF OVER 50,000 RESIDENTS.
UH, THE TIMES THAT WE PUT IN AS A COUNCIL, COUNCILLOR, KALE, UH, ELLISON, UH, ALL THE COUNCILS, DELL, UH, MEMBERS TO THE LEFT OF ME PUTTING IN A LOT OF HOURS.
AND THE REASON WHY IS WE WANT TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS DILIGENTLY.
IT'S NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, US GOING OUT AND WANTING TO BE HANDS-ON.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT'S REQUIRED FROM US.
UH, TODAY I WAS IN FOUR MEETINGS AND, UH, IT, I, IT WORE ME OUT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, UH, I SOMETIMES ENJOY BECAUSE IT'S, THE MEETINGS ARE LONG, BUT THEY'RE, THEY HAVE TO BE DONE.
I MEAN, I'M, I'M, UH, I KNOW THAT IT, PEOPLE MIGHT THINK THAT WE JUST SHOW UP FOR TWO MEETINGS A MONTH.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
I THINK ABOUT ALL THE HOURS THAT I PUT INTO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER ROOM DURING THE DESIGN PHASES AND DURING THE, UH, GOING BEFORE BOND, I THINK ABOUT OUT OF THE PARK, I THINK ABOUT, UH, THE HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK AND THE PARK DOWNTOWN
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HERE, THOSE THINGS DON'T JUST HAPPEN.IT PUTS A LOT, IT'S A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WORKING TOGETHER AND PUTTING A LOT OF HOURS AS TASK FORCE AS WELL.
AND, UH, IT, IT DOESN'T COME TO FRUITION JUST ON ITS OWN.
SO IF IT'S OKAY, I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE ELECTRIC RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THE MOTION, TO GIVE THE D GO AHEAD AND GIVE THAT DEADLINE NOW, AND THEN ALSO TO INCORPORATE THE, UM, UH, CREDIT CARD POLICY AS A, UH, A FRAMEWORK.
THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS, WE'LL CALL THAT A MOTION BY THE MAYOR AND A SECOND BY, UM, UH, COUNCILLOR FLORIS KALE, UH, TH THE, THE, ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY.
NO, IT WASN'T A MOTION CAUSE I DIDN'T GIVE A DATE.
SO, UM, WHEN HIS FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET AND WHEN HIS SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET, AUGUST 25TH, IT'S A SECOND, WHICH IS A THURSDAY.
AND THEN I GUESS THE FINAL IS ON THE TUESDAY, THE 30TH.
JEEZ SO I THINK THE PRESENTATION, THE RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD BE ON AUGUST 16TH, SO WE CAN RECEIVE THAT AND TAKE ACTION THEN, AND IT WOULD BE, UM, RECORDED.
AND IF THERE IS ANY RECOMMENDATION BY THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION, TO GIVE DIRECTION TO THE, UH, FORMED COMMITTEE, TO BRING THEIR RECOMMENDATION BY AUGUST THE 16TH AND TO USE THE, UH, THE, UH, UH, DRAFT CREDIT CARD POLICY PROVIDED BY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AS A FRAMEWORK FOR THAT DISCUSSION.
ALL RIGHT, THERE, THERE YOU GO.
THERE'S THE MOTION TO AMEND IN SECOND.
SO WE'LL TAKE, UH, TWO QUICK VOTES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AND THEN, UM, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UH, NEXT STEP IS, UH, AGENDA 25 UPDATE ON THE STATUS REGARDING STAFF'S CREATION OF CITY COUNCIL'S CREDIT CARD POLICY.
I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN THE MAJORITY OF THAT.
SO ARE WE GOOD TO JUST MOVE ON? JUST MOVE ON.
[26.
[Postponed 7/5/2022] Consider authorizing execution of a professional services agreement with RSM US, LLP, in an estimated amount of $45,000.00 to conduct an examination of all City credit card transactions of and all expense reimbursements to City Council, City Manager, and other City staff incurred over a 5-year period beginning October 1, 2017 and ending March 31, 2022. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Acting City Manager and Paige Saenz, City Attorney
On April 5, 2022, Council directed staff to do an internal audit regarding council and city manager expenses and make sure they add up, and to see each line item as one reimbursement. Motion carried 5-2.
]26.UH, CONSIDER AUTHOR, UH, AUTHORIZING EXECUTION OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH RSM, US LLP, AND AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $45,000 TO CONDUCT AN EXAMINATION OF ALL CITY CREDIT CARD TRANSACTIONS AND ALL EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENTS.
THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, AND OTHER CITY STAFF INCURRED OVER FIVE-YEAR PERIOD BEGINNING AUGUST, OCTOBER 1ST, 2017 AND ENDING MARCH 31ST, 2022.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE.
I MEAN, A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? WAIT OUTSIDE AUDIT.
NO MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO, TO, UH, ALL
[27. Council Review of City Charter. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
RIGHT.AGENDA ITEM 27 COUNCIL REVIEW OF CITY CHARTER.
I ADDED THIS AT THE VERY END BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT I'VE ALWAYS STRUGGLED TO BE THE ONE TO REMIND US THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MY TASK TO DO SO, THE CITY CHARTER COMPELS US TO REVIEW THE CHARTER AT THE COUNCIL ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES AND THEN TO FORM A COUNCIL, UH, UH, COMMITTEE.
I'M SORRY TO FORM A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.
ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS WE WERE IN THE TWO YEAR WINDOW.
UH, IT'S WEIRD EVERY TWO YEARS.
AND THEN ONCE EVERY FIVE, CAUSE IT'S TWO TO ONE, TWO TO ONE, OR ACTUALLY BE TWO TO 1, 1, 1 IT'S IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S WEIRD, BUT IF THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU ALL WANT TO MAKE TO TAKE TO THE VOTERS, UH, WE'LL NEED THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT NOW, BUT THERE IS SOME DEADLINE BY WHICH WE MUST MAKE THOSE, UH, VOTES.
SO I'D LIKE FOR US TO, MAYBE JENNIFER CAN GIVE US WHEN THAT IS.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW IF WE WANT TO, OTHERWISE THIS IS GOING TO SERVICE IS OUR REVIEW.
IT'S A SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST.
ISN'T IT DEADLINE FOR CALLING THE ELECTION FOR CHARTER AMENDMENT, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
SO THAT'S THE 23RD, RIGHT? THINK SO.
DO WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 23RD? WELL, I'M GIVING YOU A THAT'S RIGHT.
SO DO WE REVIEW THIS OR DOES, DO WE HAVE A COMMITTEE REVIEW THAT CHART? THIS IS OUR TWO YEAR TIME.
SO IT'S JUST, IF WE, IF ANYONE ON THIS DYESS WANTS TO MAKE A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE CHARTER, WE CAN DO SO AND TAKE A VOTE AND SEND IT TO THE VOTE.
SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS REVIEWING THE CHARTER AND I WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE.
BUT FOR WHAT I WAS READING, I BELIEVE, UH, SOMEWHERE IT SAID THAT IN ORDER TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT, BEFORE IT GOES TO THE BORDER, THE VOTERS, YOU WILL HAVE TO BRING IT TO THE DIYERS.
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AND AFTER BEING APPROVED BY THAT I SEE WILL HAVE, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO COLLECT THE SIGNATURES FROM THE RESIDENTS BEFORE IT COMES HERE.AND THEN IT WILL NO, IF A RESIDENT WANTS, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REFERENDUM.
SO IF RESIDENTS WANT TO PROPOSE CHANGES, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SIGNATURE PROCESS.
UH, THE ONLY WAY THAT CHARTER CHANGES GET MADE OR BY MAJORITY VOTE OF COUNCIL.
SO EVEN THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT GETS FORMED ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO SEND ANYTHING ONLY WE DO.
SO IN THIS CASE, AND ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS, UM, YOU MAY JUST MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU WANT TO PROPOSE.
THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT, TAKE A VOTE.
AND IF IT'S PASSED, THEN IT GOES TO THE VOTERS.
WE'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES THROUGH THE YEARS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK ON THE 16TH AT THE LATEST, AT THE LATEST, OKAY.
CAN WE BRING ANY ITEMS ON THE FOLLOWING MEETINGS TO BE CONSIDERED, TO BE PROPOSED FOR THEM? AND THEN I GUESS, RIGHT.
SO THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST WOULD BE THE 2ND OF AUGUST.
IF YOU WANT TO BRING A PROPOSAL, THEN WE COULD CONSIDER IT, TAKE A VOTE.
AND I DON'T KNOW, IS IT A, IS IT REQUIRED TO TWO VOTES TO PROPOSE SOMETHING TO THE VOTERS? I MAY, OR IF I'M, IF I DON'T, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME JUST BRIEFLY INTERRUPTING, THERE MAY BE KIND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW WITH THIS COMPENSATION, UM, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS THEY BRING FORWARD, THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO ON THE CHARTER THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO ON THE BUTTON, THE BUTTON UP.
I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD PREFER NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE, WE, WE LABORED OVER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST PUSHING MAJOR FOR TIME RIGHT NOW.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
CAN I ASK WHEN THE LAST TIME, THE FIVE YEARS WAS FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, DID WE KNOW THAT WAS 20, 20, 20, 20.
ANYTHING ELSE? SECOND, SECOND.