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AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL ROLL MITCHELL RIZZO, ALISON FLORES, KALE BRADSHAW HERE, PARSLEY TOBY.
SO WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS PRESENT.
WE HAVE A QUORUM NEXT UP CITIZEN COMMENTS PERIOD.
AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAS COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO PLEASE DO SO.
I SEE MS. LILA NIGHT, I'VE GOT HER REGISTERED.
MY NAME IS LAILA NIGHT AND I JUST LIKE HEARING MYSELF TALK.
I'VE BEEN ATTENDING LCD COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR AROUND 30 YEARS.
I'VE SEEN REALLY GREAT CITY COUNCILS.
I'VE SEEN THE CITY ON THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AS BAD AS THIS ONE.
THERE ARE A FEW HOT POINTS THAT NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE YOU'RE SPENDING IS OUTRAGEOUS.
I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
YOU SEEM TO THINK THERE'S AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY, JUST SPEND YOU'RE DEPENDING ON GROWTH.
CONTINUING WHEN WE REALLY DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL OR NOT.
AND APPARENTLY WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A CITY MANAGER AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN EXPLAINED TO ANYONE SO BEST OF LUCK AND I WISH YOU ALL WELL, BUT MY EXPECTATIONS ARE NOT VERY HIGH.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS AND COMMENTS PERIOD.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS CONSIDERING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. NUMBER ONE ROAD BOND ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER, 2022.
TIMELINE, KEY DATES AND MILESTONES FOR THE CITY OF KYLE BOND ELECTION, UH, IDENTIFICATION OF ROADS COST ESTIMATE FOR EACH PROJECT TIMELINES ROAD SELECTION PRIORITIZATION, DETERMINATION OF NUMBER OF BOND PROPOSITIONS AND SET DATE FOR, TO CALL THE BOND ELECTION.
I GUESS WE CAN START WITH NORTON ROSE COME ON IN THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, STEPHANIE LOBBY WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS AND ISSUES TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE OF.
I HAVE BROUGHT WITH ME THIS MORNING, A DRAFT COPY OF AN ELECTION ORDINANCE FOR EVERYONE TO REVIEW.
IT'S BEEN DRAFTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR DISCUSSIONS FROM LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
AND SO WHAT YOU'LL FIND WITHIN THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE IS TWO SEPARATE STREET PROPOSITIONS, ONE FOR EXISTING STREETS, ONE FOR NEW STREETS, WHICH EACH OF THE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR PRIOR DISCUSSIONS.
UM, IF YOU TURN TO EXHIBIT C OF THE BOND ORDINANCE, SHE WILL FIND THE VOTER INFORMATION DOCUMENT.
AND THAT'S THE, UH, SCHEDULE THAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WOULD INFORM THE VOTERS AS TO THE TAX RATE IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH EACH, UH, WHICH EIGHT, THAT WHAT EACH OF THE PROPOSITIONS.
AND SO AS PROPOSITIONS BECOME SET AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE, WE CAN WORK WITH, UH, MARCO KLEINIAN, ANDREW FRIEDMAN AT SAM KOCH TO INPUT ALL OF THIS FINANCIAL INFORMATION SO THAT THE COUNCIL HAS IT.
THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF.
I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS THIS WEEK WITH THE CITY SECRETARY, UH, ABOUT BREEDING REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH ORDINANCES AND JUST TO INFORM COUNCIL, THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE LAW AND THE GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 1201 THAT PROVIDES THAT A BOND ELECTION ORDINANCE IS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UPON ITS FIRST PASSAGE.
AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS A PREFERENCE
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FOR TWO READINGS OF ORDINANCES UNLESS AN ORDINANCE PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE OF THAT STATE LAW PROVISION.
IF YOU DO WANT TO HAVE TWO READINGS FOR THE ELECTION ORDINANCE AND HAVE IT PASSED BY COUNCIL TWICE, THAT IS PERMISSIBLE, BUT BOTH OF THE READINGS, BOTH OF THE ACTION ITEMS WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR WITHIN THAT CALL WINDOW.
BECAUSE THE AUGUST 23RD, BETWEEN AUGUST 10TH AND AUGUST 22ND, THAT'S THE THAT'S KIND OF THE 12 DAY WINDOW AND BOTH READINGS WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING FOR SLIMY? ALRIGHT.
UH, UH, NEXT WOULD BE THE K FREE SECTIONS TIMELINE, UH, OR I'M SORRY, IDENTIFICATION OF ROADS AND SEGMENTS COST ESTIMATES FOR EACH ROAD AND PROJECT TIMELINE, ENGINEERING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
I'M GOING TO SHARE THE SCREEN IF I COULD.
ARE YOU ALL ABLE TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE NO, WE HAD, CAN WE
I THOUGHT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED, UH, BECCA IT'S IN THE, I'M SENDING YOU A POWER POINT.
IT'S THE SECOND AND THIRD SLIDE.
WELL, I COULDN'T EXP SUCH EXPLAIN WHAT WE'VE DONE BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND THIS MORNING AND IN TODAY'S MEETING AND THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE COST OF THE TWO BONDS.
UH, ONE IS, I THINK WE MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME.
HE SAID, UM, THE SCHEDULE FOR DEVELOPING THESE 10% PLANS, THESE, UH, PRELIMINARY JUDGING REPORTS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY AMBITIOUS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONSTANTLY IN THIS MODE OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD GET, UM, AS MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND WHAT THEY WOULD COST AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, UM, WHAT WE KNOW AND DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PROJECTS AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO BETWEEN THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND TODAY, UH, THAT WAS ONE, UH, YOU KNOW, MOTIVE, REFINEMENT.
AND SO THE COSTS HAVE GONE UP.
I THINK THE LAST TIME COUNCIL MET ABOUT THESE EIGHT PROJECTS.
THE COST WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND 260 OR 270,000.
UH, IT'S NOW ABOUT FOR THE TWO PROPOSITIONS.
IT IS ABOUT, UM, 2 97, 290 $7 MILLION.
AND SOME OF THAT COSTS HAVE COME FROM THIS IS THE DESIGN ENGINEERS FOR FINDING THEIR COST ESTIMATES.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD TO GO BACK IN AND, UM, INCLUDE THE COSTS OF ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTING, WHICH WE HADN'T DONE AT THAT POINT.
AND SO THOSE TWO THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, AS THAT'S BEING SENT TO YOU AND YOU START TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT IS WE HAD TO ASSUME, UM, ALL THE DESIGN ENGINEERS ASSUMED THAT, UH, THE CITY OR THE PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TO BEAR THE COST OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IN OTHER WORDS, NONE OF THAT RIGHT AWAY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UH, DONATED OR TRADED OR GIVEN.
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AND WE ALSO ASSUMED THAT ALL THE UTILITIES WOULD BE BORN BY THE PROJECT.IN OTHER WORDS, UM, THEY HADN'T HAD THE TIME TO GET INTO WHETHER OR NOT, UM, SOME OF THE UTILITIES WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR RELOCATING SOME OF THE UTILITIES.
AND I KNOW THAT REALLY DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO AFFECT YOUR DECISION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE COST ESTIMATES YOU HAVE, BUT THOSE ARE, I THINK A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT NOTES IS THAT WE HAD TO ASSUME THAT ALL THE UTILITIES WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE PROJECT.
AND WE HAD TO ASSUME THAT ALL THE RIGHT AWAY WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE PROJECT.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT NONE OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE BORN BY OTHERS, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THAT ACTUALLY PANS OUT TO BE TRUE REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE WAS PROBABLY SOME OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO HAVE SAVINGS ON RIGHT AWAY AND SOME OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SAVINGS ON UTILITY RELOCATION COSTS.
THE OTHER THING TO NOTE ABOUT THE COSTS IS THAT FOR THE MOST PART, THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, UH, USED, UM, AN INFLATION RATE OF 4%.
UH, THERE ARE ONE OR TWO PROJECTS WHERE THEY USE SOMETHING HIGHER IT'S BECAUSE THOSE PROJECTS ARE SHORTER IN DURATION.
AND SO THE WINDOW, YOU KNOW, THAT TIMEFRAME WAS RIPE IN FRONT OF US.
AND SO WE KNOW LIKE TODAY INFLATION IS REALLY, REALLY HIGH.
SO FOR LIKE A ONE-YEAR PROJECT, THEY USE THE HIGHER RATE.
BUT FOR THE PROJECTS THAT HAD A HIGHER DURATION, THEY SORT OF PARED IT DOWN AND USE LIKE SAY AN AVERAGE OF 4% A YEAR.
UM, AND SO, AND WE ALSO USED A PRETTY HEALTHY CONTINGENCY OF, OF, UH, FOR THE MOST PART 30%.
UM, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THERE SOMEPLACE A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS AND THE REASON WE USE SUCH A, A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY IS BECAUSE WE'RE AT A 10% PRELIMINARY ENGINE ENGINEERING REPORT STAGE.
AND YOU CAN ARGUE THAT AT THIS STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT AND HAS REALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH KYLE, IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE WAY THINGS LIKE THIS GET DONE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST, UM, YOU DON'T KNOW AS MUCH AS, ALMOST AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
THERE'S ALWAYS, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF A PROJECT OR PROJECTS LIKE THESE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF UNCERTAINTY AND THE WAY WE COMPENSATE FOR THAT OR DEAL WITH THE RISK IS YOU JUST ADD A CONTINGENCY.
SO THERE ARE PRETTY CONTINGENT, PRETTY HEALTHY CONTINGENCIES.
UM, AND TWO THINGS WILL HAPPEN AS YOU GO THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS AND HEAD TO A CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THESE THINGS GET FIGURED OUT, ALL THE DETAILS GET FILLED IN, AND YOU'LL EITHER EAT UP THAT CONTINGENCY, YOU KNOW, OR, OR HAVE CAUSED TO USE IT, OR YOU'LL FIND THAT YOU WON'T NEED IT AND CAN EITHER PUT IT INTO OTHER FEATURES FOR THE ROAD OR DEPENDING ON HOW YOUR ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN AND HOW THE BONDS GET GO.
YOU COULD PUT IT TOWARD OTHER PROJECTS THAT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANTED TO ADD STUFF TO, WE NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CONTINGENCY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE THAT YET, BUT THAT'S, UH, WELL, THE TIMING WORKED OUT.
I WAS ABLE TO GIVE MY INTRODUCTION WHILE I WAS BEING CALLED UP ON YOUR SCREENS.
IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING? THIS IS THE ONE.
AND I KNOW IT'S OBVIOUS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SHEET, BUT, UM, WE HAD ORGANIZED ALL THE PROJECTS IN ONE GIANT PILE.
LAST TIME, THIS TIME, WHAT WE DID WAS WE DIVIDED IT.
AND I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE INSTRUCTIONS.
WE WERE GIVEN LESS TIME, UH, THE TOP OF THE EXISTING ROADWAY THAT WOULD BE PROPOSITION ONE, PROPOSITION TWO IS IN THE MIDDLE, AND THOSE ARE, UM, THE GREENFIELD PROJECTS MORE OR LESS.
AND THEN JUST SO YOU'D HAVE IT FOR HISTORY.
AND FOR REFERENCE, WE INCLUDED THE THIRD, YOU KNOW, THAT BOTTOM PORTION OR THE EXCLUDED PROJECTS.
AND SO YOU COULD SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WOULD COST.
SO, BUT YOU HAVE THEM ALL IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, PROP ONE, PROP TWO, AND THE PROJECTS THAT WERE EXCLUDED.
SORRY, I KEEP, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THE, JUST THE EXCLUDED PROJECTS ONLY, RIGHT? UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, OH, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER.
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THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER OF EACH ONE OF THOSE BLOCKS, YOU'LL SEE THE TOTAL FOR THAT PROPOSITION.SO PROPOSITION ONE, THE TOTAL IS 1 73, 7 49 34.
PROP TWO IS 1 25, 2 92, 8 26, AND THEN THE EXCLUDED PROJECTS.
AND THAT WAS WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS REFERRING TO.
THE TOTAL FOR THE EXCLUDED PROJECTS IS 2 0 3 8 78, 6 6 87.
SO BASICALLY ON PROPOSITION ONE, UM, THE EX EXISTING ROADWAY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 7.2 MILES IN LENGTH FOR, FOR THAT COMBINED.
AND, UM, PROPOSITION TWO IS 3.1.
DOES THAT, UH, WHAT THE CALCULATIONS WERE WITH THE TOTAL MILEAGE? YES.
ANOTHER QUESTION ON BB ROAD AND PROPOSITION ONE, YOU HAVE THE ROWL ACQUISITION.
DO WE HAVE A REASON WHY IT'S CLOSE TO ALMOST 8.8 MILLION? IS IT JUST THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD ITSELF OR THE TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION THE RIGHT OF WAY I'M BETTING THAT'S BECAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS PROPOSED FOR BB ROAD TO BE MOVED ENTIRELY ONTO THE CARAWAY TRACT, WHICH MEANS THAT THE ENTIRE STRETCH NEEDED TO BE OBTAINED.
AND WE HAVE SINCE MOVED THAT BACK TO BEBE ROAD ITSELF.
SO I'M THINKING THAT NUMBER MIGHT COME DOWN TO JUST A GUESS.
IT DOES SEEM HIGHER THAN OBVIOUSLY ALL THE OTHER ONES.
IT'S AN EX WELL, ALL OF KYLE, RIGHT.
YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER THAN I DO.
IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT I THINK THE MAYOR IS ON, ON THE TRACK.
A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH BEING ON THE ROAD, AS OPPOSED TO GOING ACROSS LIKE GREENFIELD.
CAN WE GET COSTS THAT DO NOT INCLUDE THE VIBE CROSSING AS WELL? UM, I THOUGHT WE HAD ASKED FOR THAT LAST TIME, BUT RIGHT HERE, HE SAYS BY CROSSING IT'S LIKE PROPOSITION WHINING $2.2 MILLION BASICALLY.
SO JUST TRACK THAT AMOUNT FROM, YEAH.
IT'S IT'S UM, UH, WELL, THIS IS JUST THE PLANNER'S OPINION.
THE VIBE IT'S THAT THAT COLUMN IS ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE RIGHT.
AND AS THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED FOR PROP ONE, THE COST OF THE VIBE IS JUST OVER $2 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF $173 MILLION, YOU KNOW, PROPOSITION.
AND FOR PROP TWO, IT'S CLOSER TO $2.2 MILLION AGAINST $125 MILLION.
BUT IF THEY BOTH PASS, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, LIKE TWO, ALMOST 2.2 OR 4.2 MILLION.
SO THAT'S, AS I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN IS THAT NOW IF WE COMBINE THE TWO, IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND COMPETE, RIGHT? SO COMPARATIVELY TO THE ROADS, BUT CONTENT PALLIATIVELY TO LIKE EMPLOYMENT OR THINGS THAT WE COULD USE FOR THE CITY IN THE AMOUNT OF $4 MILLION, OR EVEN AS WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, IT COULD BE 4 MILLION THAT WE COULD USE FOR LOANS THROUGHOUT STANDING THAT WE COULD USE TO BORROW AGAINST THE CITY.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN IS TO SEE IF, CAN WE UTILIZE $4.2 MILLION IN ANOTHER WAY AS OPPOSED TO THE VIBE TRAIL,
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BECAUSE I'M ALL FOR THE VIBE, BUT NO, NO.IF, IF WE TAKE THE VIBE OUT, THE VIBE IS DONE.
IF WE TAKE IT OUT OF THIS PROPOSITION ON THE NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTIONS, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO CANCEL THE VIBE.
SO, AND I, THAT'S FINE IF THAT'S WHAT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL WANTS TO BE, BUT IF WE DON'T BUILD IT ON THESE ROADS CONCURRENT HERE, THEN THERE IS NO VI PLAN.
SO ORIGINALLY WE DISCUSSED, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE TOOK ACTION ON IT OR NOT, BUT WE DISCUSSED 15 MILLION AS THE, AS THE BUDGET THAT WE WANTED TO BRING FOUR, FIVE TRAIL CONSTRUCTION IN THIS CURRENT BOND.
SO FOUR IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THAT, BUT I, YOU YOU'VE BROUGHT IT UP.
SO I THINK MAYBE WE CAN JUST HAVE A VOTE AND WE CAN JUST DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO, TO REMOVE IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE SIMPLE AND AN EASY WAY TO, OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT NOT WITH A SENSE THAT IT'S ALL OR NOTHING THAT LIKE, IF WE DON'T FOCUS ON, OKAY, WELL, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS DOESN'T KILL THE BOT VILE.
HOW ARE WE MOVING FORWARD IN THE DIRECTION OF COUNTRIES I WAS CREATED IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR? SO WE HAD A PLAN THEN AND WAS A PLAN, ALWAYS JUST A BOND BECAUSE THAT HASN'T EVEN BEEN DISCUSSED UNTIL RIGHT NOW.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PAYMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN BACK WHEN WE VOTED ON IT, HOW WE WERE GOING TO PAY FOR IT VERSUS TODAY WHERE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN PAY FOR THIS.
WELL, IT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY WE CAN.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S MY WHOLE POINT.
THAT IS ALL I'M SAYING IS YES.
IF WE TAKE A VOTE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL OR NOTHING.
AND MAYBE WE DO IT FOR ONE AND WE DON'T DO IT FOR ANOTHER.
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY THAT'S VOTING TO FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW, IT'S DEAD.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT.
SO, SO WHAT WOULD BE THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT IF WE DIDN'T PUT IN A BOND, BUT IT COME OUT OF THE GENERAL.
YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I'M NOT, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT SHOULDN'T BE TALKED ABOUT, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR PEREZ, I BELIEVE, OR JERRY FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH IN A SEPARATE ITEM WHEN WE TAKE THIS TO THE BALLOT.
AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED A PLAN INSIDE OF INCLUDED IN THE ROAD BOND, BUT IT COULD BE ITS OWN SEPARATE BOND.
IT COULD BE A NUMBER OF OTHER WAYS, BUT I THINK I'M, PRE-VISIT AN ENGINEER WOULD PROBABLY AGREE THAT IF I INCLUDED IT IN A BOND, WE ACHIEVE SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT WILL MAKE IT CHEAPER, AS WELL AS THE INCORPORATE THE TIMING.
AND IF THERE'S A NUMBER OF ADVANTAGES TO HAVING IT IN THE BOND AND TO BE CONSTRUCTED CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ROADWAYS.
AND IF WE DON'T, IF WE TOOK THE 4 MILLION OUT SIDEWALKS STILL GET CONSTRUCTED, THEY'RE JUST NOT AS WIDE.
SO IT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING LIKE, WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING THESE ROADS WHERE THE VIVE TRAIL IS PLANNED AND IT'S COMPLETE STREETS THAT WE'RE BUILDING.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE VIBE IN THOSE SECTIONS.
IF WE TAKE THE 4 MILLION OUT, IT'S NOT LIKE THE ROADS GET BUILT WITH NO STREET SIDEWALKS, THEY JUST, INSTEAD OF IT BEING, UH, 12 FEET AND IT'S REDUCED TO THE STANDARD SIX OR EIGHT FEET OR WHATEVER IT, WHATEVER IT IS.
AND THAT JUST MEANS THAT THAT SECTION IS DEAD.
AND SO THE VIBE WOULDN'T BE CONNECTED.
AND SO THE VIBE WOULD BE FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, MAYOR, IF I MAY INJURY, YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT, WHICH IS IT'S FOR A LOT OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE IN PROJECTS, NOT JUST THINGS LIKE THE VIBE OR THE SIDEWALK, UM, I MEAN, EVEN UTILITIES OR LIGHTING, ANYTHING IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE AS COST-EFFECTIVE TO PUT THINGS INTO A ROADWAY PROJECT AS IT IS WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE PROJECT.
SO TO GO BACK FOR EXAMPLE, UM, AND I WON'T PICK ON PEDESTRIAN STUFF RIGHT.
TO GO BACK AND ADD LIGHTING ON WILL BE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IT IS TODAY WHEN YOU'RE JUST GOING FORTH AND DOING THE ROAD.
IT JUST THINK ABOUT IT IF YOU'RE BUILDING A HOUSE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN PUTTING REALLY, REALLY NEAT CABINETS IN, OR ADDING MORE SPACE.
YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT OPT TO ADD THE SPACE BECAUSE IT'S NEVER GOING TO GET CHEAP TO ADD IT.
AND THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND ADD COST EFFECTIVELY.
THE OTHER THING, AND I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND ME OFFERING A PLANNER'S PERSPECTIVE IS I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, I THINK THERE'S A VALUE THERE THAT GOES WAY BEYOND, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO MOVE JUST CARS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN ANY COMMUNITY IN ANY CITY THAT EITHER CHOOSE NOT TO DRIVE OR CAN'T DRIVE EITHER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO.
AND I THINK HAVING A WELL CONNECTED AND ROBUST, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN SYSTEM THAT IS REPRESENTED BY A PLAN LIKE THE VIBE ALLOWS PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO DRIVE OR WHO CAN'T DRIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OR BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO, IT GIVES THEM AN ALTERNATIVE MODE OF TRAVEL.
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AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IN TERMS OF ALL THE CREW COOL GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE PLANNING AND HOW YOU'RE TRYING TO CONNECT ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.I THINK THE VIBE GOES A LITTLE BIT BEYOND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE STRAIGHT UP IT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, A ROBUST SIDEWALK SYSTEM.
I THINK IT ALLOWS ALL ELEMENTS OF YOUR POPULATION TO BE ABLE TO MOVE AROUND THE CITY.
UM, IF THEY CAN'T OR CHOOSE NOT TO USE A CAR.
SO WHY DON'T WE, I MEAN, CAUSE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A COUPLE TIMES, SO WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A MOTION AND A VOTE SO WE CAN PUT IT TO BED? CAUSE I HAVE A FEELING YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT UP AT ALL THE FUTURE MEETINGS TOO.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONTHS TO DO A MOTION AND THEN I STILL DO HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S AS CUT AND DRY RICHER ITEMS. OH.
SO I GUESS MY MOTION WOULD BE TO FIND DIFFERENT FUNDS TO BUILD THE VIBE AND NOT USE THE BOND MONEY FOR IT TO REMOVE IT FROM THE BOND.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MADE SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH DIFFERENT FUNDS, BUT TO REMOVE IT FROM THE BOND.
SO NOT BORROW THE MONEY, SPEND IT AFTER CASH.
I MEAN, AGAIN, THE WAY THAT IT'S FUNDED WOULD HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST FIGURE OUT AT THIS MOMENT THAT WOULD BE PUTTING A LOT OF PRESSURE ON PEREZ, BUT THAT IS IT, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IF WE REMOVE IT FROM THIS.
IF, IF WE REMOVE IT FROM THIS PROGRAM AND YOU STILL WANT IT TO GO FORWARD, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT KILLING IT, WE MUST FIND A NEW, A NEW FUNDING SOURCE BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING THESE PROJECTS.
SO GOING BACK, I'M SEIZING THESE PROJECTS FOR FIVE YEARS OUT, RIGHT? SO TO DO A BOND, YOU KNOW, IN NOVEMBER FOR THAT'S FIVE YEARS OUT, IT CAN WE FIND FUNDS IN BETWEEN NOW FIVE YEARS OR NOW IN FOUR YEARS OR NOW, AND WHEN THESE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETED.
SO I'M NOT THE ONE WHO'S SAYING WE HAVE TO HAVE EMOTION.
AND THEN IF WE ALL AGREE YET, LET'S JUST KEEP IT IN THERE.
BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS.
SO I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE, SIX DIFFERENT TYPES OF TIMES WE'VE HAD THIS.
I'M NOT, THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE IT BELONGS IN MY OPINION.
SO AGAIN, IF WE DISCUSSED IT, WHAT WERE THE ALTERNATIVES FOR THE FUNDING? THE ALTERNATIVES ARE OUR DEBT OR CASH.
SO IF YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST PLACE TO FIND THE DEBT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE DEBT, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO PROPOSE TO PUT IT IN A CIP.
SO IF IT'S PREVIOUSLY BEEN DISCUSSED AND IT'S DEBT OR CASH, WHAT DOES THAT CASH LOOK LIKE? VERY EXPENSIVE.
BUT IF, IF IT'S PREVIOUSLY BEEN DISCUSSED, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AS FORWARD, AS FAR AS WHERE WOULD THE CASH WILL COME FROM? THE CASH WOULD COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND, ONLY THE GENERAL FROM THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION DURING THESE MEETINGS WHERE IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED.
SO IF YOU COULD, I TH I TH I THINK IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE JUST ARGUING FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUING.
NO, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE COUNCIL HAS A WILL.
AND THE, THE, THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS WITHOUT US GOING INTO GREAT.
WELL, I WOULD REALLY HATE TO SEE IT GO TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT BEING DISCUSSED.
BUT IF THAT'S THE WAY OF THE TRUE COUNCIL, THEN I WILL NOT ARGUE THAT.
WELL, THE, THE, THE, JUST WE'VE DISCUSSED THE VIBE AT EVERY MEETING AND WHETHER TO INCORPORATE THE VIBE INTO THE ROAD, BONDS PROJECT, AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES, WE HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DISCUSS THAT.
YES, PLEASE DO SEE IF YOU GOT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF PLOT TO DECIDE WHAT ARE THE FIVE CROSSING WE'LL GO ON PROPOSITION.
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS IF IT'S SOME SORT OF CONNECTIVITY, IS IT, DOES IT BELONG ON THAT CONSTRUCTION? SO IT'S, WE HAVE THE VIBE MASTER PLAN.
I HAVE NOT SEEN IT ON IN THE INDIVIDUAL TRACKS, BUT IT'S WHEREVER THE PROPOSAL GOES ALONG IN THE MASTER PLAN, IF WE'RE DOING RECONSTRUCTION OR NEW ROADS, AND THAT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN, THAT WOULD BE VIBE TRAIL, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO, LET'S SAY WE TAKE OUT THE VIBE, WHICH IS 1.4% OF THE TOTAL OF PROPOSITION ONE.
AND TO TAKE THAT OUT, AND THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN THAT SECTION? SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PHYSICALLY WHERE THAT VIBE CROSSING WILL GO.
IF IT KIND OF BELONGS TO IT, ATTACHES IT AND SET SOME SORT OF CONNECTION IN THOSE ROADS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL MAKE SENSE TO TAKE IT OUT.
UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PLATFORM IT ON THE ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER HERE IS ON THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE NEXT TO THESE ROADS THAT WE'RE RECONSTRUCTING A PART OF OUR, THE REASON IT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN IS BECAUSE WHEN THE DEVELOPMENTS COME, WE ARE TELLING THE DEVELOPERS ON THEIR SECTION, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET ENTITLEMENTS, THEY MUST CONSTRUCT THE VIBE VIBE IS BEING CONSTRUCTED RIGHT NOW IN VARIOUS SECTIONS.
SO ON THESE ROADS, WHEN WE RE REBUILD THEM, IF WE DON'T BUILD OUR SECTION OF THE VIBE, THEN THEY WILL BE BUILDING, UH,
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THEY WILL BE ADDING COST TO THEIR PROJECT WITH NO BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THE BENEFIT OF THE VIBE IS THE CONNECTION FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER.SO WE REALLY DO NEED TO JUST, WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT WE EITHER NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, OR WE NEED TO STOP IT RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S WHY I KEEP SAYING, LIKE, I HEAR THAT THERE'S PUSHBACK.
THERE'S A LACK OF REALLY A DESIRE TO FUND IT.
SO, BUT WE JUST NEED TO GET CLEAR BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND IT ON THESE ROADS, THEN WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS AND TELL THEM THEY DON'T NEED TO BUILD THE VIBE EITHER, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT BUILDING IT ON OUR SECTION AND WE'RE FORCING THEM TO BUILD IT ON THEIR SECTION AND THERE'S GAPS IN BETWEEN THE ROADS, WHAT ARE WE DOING? THAT IS NOT GOOD LEADERSHIP.
SO WE JUST NEED TO PICK A PATH HERE AND I'M OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S SOME SENSE OF, WE DON'T WANT THE VIBE, THEN LET'S, LET'S TAKE THAT THAT PATH.
BUT WE MUST BE CONSISTENT IN OUR LEADERSHIP.
THIS IS, THE VIBE IS A MULTI-YEAR, IT'S A DECADES LONG PLAN.
IT REQUIRES CONSISTENCY OF EXECUTION OF THIS PLAN.
SO CAN I ASK WHAT HAPPENS? CAUSE I SEE BB ROAD IS ON THERE AND THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME DEVELOPMENT ON THAT.
SO IF THERE'S SOME DEVELOPMENT ON BB ROAD, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE TAKE OUT A BOND? UM, AND HOW MUCH WAS BB WROTE AGAIN? DOES IT SAY HOW MUCH THE VIBE IS GOING TO COST FOR THAT 707? OKAY.
SO THAT'S MONEY THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD PAY.
IT WOULDN'T COST THE DEVELOPER 770, BECAUSE WE WOULD BUILD IN OUR, OUR PORTION, A SIDEWALK, UNLESS YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT WE TAKE SIDEWALKS OUT AND THEN SAY THAT THAT DEVELOPER HAS TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK.
THERE'S NO GOVERNMENTAL POLICY TO ALLOW FOR SUCH A MANEUVER, BUT WE WOULD STILL BE BUILDING, RIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT 770,000 BECAUSE WE WOULD BE BUILDING.
BUT I'VE SAID, SO YOU SAID WE DON'T DISCUSS IT.
THE 770,000 IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REGULAR SIDEWALK AND THE VIBE TRAIL SIDEWALK.
JUST LIKE WHEN WE DID THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE REGULAR SIDEWALK AND THE SIDE SIDEWALK.
SO IF WE TAKE THE VIBE OUT, BB ROAD WILL HAVE A SIDEWALK ON IT.
AND THEREFORE, IN ORDER FOR US TO GO BACK, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADD THE EXTRA SIDEWALK AND ALL THE VIBE FEATURES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD COST, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE 770,000 CONCURRENT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD.
IT WOULD BE SOME DIFFERENT NUMBER.
SO TO CONFIRM THE SIDEWALK IS GOING TO BE THIS REGULAR SIDEWALK, BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE LOCATED IN TWO DIFFERENT SPOTS.
A SIDEWALK WOULD HAVE, SHOULD USUALLY BE LIKE ON BB ROAD AT, ALONG THE ROAD, BUT THE VIBE IS GOING TO BE INSIDE OF THE TRACK.
SO IS THAT TWO DIFFERENT COSTS THEN? OKAY, SO LET'S OKAY.
SO MY ULTIMATE FEAR IS THIS NOT PASS IT.
I WANT THIS ROAD BOND TO PASS.
SO WHATEVER IT TAKES, MY FEAR IS IF SOMEBODY SEES, OH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A VIBE TRO, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT A DESCRIPTION IN ALL OF IT.
IF THEY DON'T VOTE FOR IT, BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT'S GOING TO HURT THE CITY MORE THAN HAVING TO FIND ALTERNATIVE FUNDS FOR THE VIBE.
MY ONLY FEAR I'M OKAY WITH BUILDING IT AND GOING FORWARD.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WANT THESE BONDS TO PASS WELL AGAIN, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM AS FIRST.
CAUSE IF WE TAKE THIS OUT, WE SAY, LET'S JUST REMOVE THIS $2 MILLION AND WE JUST DON'T ADD IT TO THIS PROPOSITION.
AND THEN FIVE OR SEVEN YEARS LATER, WHEN IT'S ALL DONE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH NON CONNECTIVITY IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE, OF THAT SECTION.
SO BY ADDING THIS, YOU'RE ALREADY ADDING THE MONEY TO FUND IT NOW.
AND JUST LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING WHENEVER WE'RE BUILDING THESE SIDEWALKS OR REBUILDING THESE ROADS, NOW WE DON'T ADD THE SIDEWALKS AND THE LIGHTING, LIKE WE HAVEN'T IN EAST KYLE, IT BECOMES MORE EXPENSIVE LATER ON BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY.
AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE SAYING, OKAY, LET'S TAKE THE MONEY OUT THE $2 MILLION OUT.
BUT THEN LATER ON, WHEN OTHER COUNCILS ARE GOING TO NEED TO GET THOSE SIDEWALKS CONNECTIVITY, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE IT'S GOING TO COST THEM.
SO I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF AGAIN, FROM THE BEGINNING WITH THE VIVE TRAIL OR JUST THE TRAIL ITSELF IS TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT FROM AS MUCH AS WE CAN FROM EAST OF KYLE ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO WHERE WE CAN MAYBE SOMEDAY REDUCE SOME OF THIS TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER WE'RE STARTING TO GET PEOPLE TO WALK OUT MORE OR RIDE BIKES OR WHETHER THE EVENTUALLY IF THE GOLF CART, UH, SCENARIO WORKS OUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WHAT I SEE A LOT IS THAT WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS MONEY FROM? AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE ADDING IT TO IT NOW VERSUS LATER ON SAYING, OKAY,
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WELL WE NEED TO GO IN.IF WE DON'T VOTE ON THIS OR WE DON'T SUPPORT THIS THEN YEARS FROM NOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET THAT CONNECTIVITY ON THE SIDEWALKS.
AND IT MAY COST THE CITY EVEN MORE LATER ON.
AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEARS THAT YOU DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO PASS.
BUT I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE ADVOCATE FOR THIS TO UNDER, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET CONNECTIVITY WITH SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.
I THINK TOO, MEMBER, TO BE AS POINT LET'S SAY WE BUILT, YOU KNOW, THE REGULAR SIDEWALK, FIVE, SIX FEET.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH THE AVERAGE ONE IS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT LATER ON.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE PROMOTING THE VIBE AS A WAY FOR RESIDENTS TO MOBILIZE WITHOUT USING VEHICLES AND THEY WANT TO BRING A GOLF CAR BICYCLES, I DON'T KNOW, THEN THERE WILL BE THAT ONE PARTICULAR SECTION THAT MAYBE A GOLF CART WON'T BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH.
AND SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO REDESIGN THAT IT WILL PROBABLY BE AN ADDITIONAL COST? UM, SO THERE'S AMOUNTS THAT WE HAVE IN HERE.
WE'LL BE PROBABLY THAT DIFFERENCE, CORRECT? IT WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE FROM REGULAR SIDEWALK TO THE 12 FEET, THE 12 FOOT IN SOME AREAS, SOME AREAS THE VIBE WAS GOING TO BE ON THAT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONCURRENT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME.
THE VIBE IS GOING TO BE AT ONE SPOT AND THE SIDEWALK THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTS.
NOBODY'S ASKING TO TAKE THAT OFF.
NOW, THE VIBE TRAIL COULD BE THE SIDEWALK THAT THE CITY USES OR COULD NOT BE IS I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE THIS IN HERE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LEAVE THE VIBE IN THE BOND SECOND.
COUNCILMAN FLORES, CAL SECOND BY THE MAYOR.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES, UH, SIX TO ZERO.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE, I HAVE FEARS ABOUT WHETHER THIS WOULD PASS TO, BUT THE VIBE IS NOT MY PRIMARY FEAR.
MY PRIMARY FEAR IS NUMBER ONE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT, WHICH WOULD BE SHELL SHOCKING TO SOME PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION.
AND NUMBER TWO WOULD BE, UH, THE WEIGHT OF EAST ROADS VERSUS WEST ROADS IN TERMS OF THE WAY OUR VOTERS VOTE.
UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE PROBABLY 70% OF THE DOLLARS BEING SPENT ARE BEING SPENT ON EAST SIDE, UH, PROJECTS.
AND SO IF IT WAS FLIPPED, THERE WOULD BE OUTCRY.
UH, I CAN IMAGINE, I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT LAYOUT OF THE ROADS BECAUSE THESE EAST SIDE ROADS IN PARTICULAR, UH, BB BUNTIN AND WINDY HILL ARE MUCH, MUCH NEEDED AND THEY'RE HUGE PROJECTS, BUT THAT DOES NOT AFFECT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.
SO, UH, IT'LL BE UP TO OUR, UM, UH, VENERATED, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF AND CONSULTANTS TO HELP US WITH THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SO THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE NEED, UH, UH, FOR THESE PARTICULAR ROAD PROJECTS.
SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A GREATER RISK THAN THE VIBE, BUT WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN.
YEAH, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ADVERTISED.
WELL, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING, BUT AGAIN, TO, TO ADVOCATE FOR, UH, EAST, EAST OF KYLE, IT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED.
UM, AND IT'S VERY OBVIOUS WHEN YOU GO FROM ONE SIDE OF THE TOWN TO CITY, TO THE OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GO BY JACKSON HAYES TRAIL AND THERE'S STREET LIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS AND NICE RAMPS AND STREETLIGHTS, YOU GO TO BB ROAD AND YOU STILL HAVE POTHOLES.
YOU HAVE A DITCH THAT YOU COULD TURN INTO AND FALL IN.
UM, SO, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME VOTERS OUT THERE THAT WILL CHOOSE EITHER SIDE, BUT I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO, UM, PUSH THE, THE, THE NEED.
AND, UM, THE IDEA THAT THESE ARE MUCH NEEDED ROADS.
I THINK THAT THE ENTIRE CITY WILL REALLY LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE AND UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, UH, THESE ARE ALL ROADS THAT WE ALL TRAVEL AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN BE ABLE TO, UH, SEE THAT IN A POSITIVE LIGHT.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ONE BOND VERSUS, OR ONE PROP VERSUS A TWO PROPS, OR IS THERE A DISCUSSION OF WANTING TO TAKE UPON FURTHER CONSIDERATION WANTING TO ADD A PROJECT BACK UP FROM THE EXCLUDED LIST OR TO REMOVE FROM THE EXISTING LIST? ARE WE STILL, SO I'M FINE WITH KEEPING THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE LEFT OFF LEFT OFF, BUT MY TWO THINGS ARE, MY CONCERNS ARE THE CITY NEEDS ANOTHER OVERPASS.
WE KNOW THAT IT'S MAXED OUT AT, UM, UH, WHAT IS IT CALLED AT THAT POINT? SO 16, 26 AND ALSO HERE AT CENTER STREET.
SO I WORRY THAT IF SOMEBODY LOOKS
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AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH YES, WE NEED ALL OF THESE ROADS AND PROP ONE AND THEY VOTE YES TO THAT.AND THEY'RE LIKE, BUT WE DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK, WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO APPROVE ANOTHER 125 MILLION, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO JUST SAY NO TO THE OVERPASS.
AND ALSO THE MARKETPLACE AVENUE IS, IS REALLY A NON-NEGOTIABLE AS WELL FOR PD FOR THE NEW POLICE STATION GOING IN.
SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST GOING TO DELAY RESPONSE TIMES IF WE DON'T BUILD THAT ROAD, THE, THAT BRINGS UP A VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MS. BRADSHAW FOR BRINGING THAT UP LAST YEAR, UM, COUNSEL OR THE YEAR BEFORE REALLY, UM, ADVOCATED FOR A LOBBYIST TO TRY TO SEE ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET FUNDS FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY.
HAVE WE HAD ANY UPDATES ON ANY, UM, PROGRESS ON THAT AND IF THERE'S ANY OF THAT THAT COULD, UM, BE USED FOR FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW OF THAT COULD MAYBE HELP WITH SOME OF THESE OVERPASS, THAT DATA MS. BRADSHAW IS BRINGING CONCERNS ON.
UH, I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL TRIPS TO, UM, DC, UH, TALKING TO SOME OF THE LOBBYISTS OR THE PEOPLE THAT WE HIRED.
IS THERE ANY UPDATES ON, UH, MR. HENDRICKS ON ANYTHING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH WITH THEM ALONG WITH TXDOT ABOUT, UH, ASSISTING US WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBER, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.
HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY GET CAUGHT UP ON, ON THAT PART YET.
CAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UM, COUNSEL WAS REALLY HOPING TO UTILIZE THE, THAT GROUP FOR ESPECIALLY ROAD PROJECTS.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE THIS BOND HERE, BUT I WAS, UM, WAS KIND OF WONDERING BY NOW IF WE HEARD SOME KIND OF A MASTER PLAN FROM THEM BECAUSE I, I, I KNOW, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM WAS REALLY ADAMANT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, WORK WITH SOME OF THESE PEOPLE TO GET, UH, SOME PROJECTS, UH, LINED UP IF POSSIBLE.
I THINK THE, THE OVERPASSES OR UNDERPASS OR WHATEVER, UH, I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A LIFT THAT REQUIRES THE CAMPO AND TXDOT AND FEDERAL FUNDS, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PROPOSAL IS THE FULL FUNDING FOR THE COLOR'S UNDERPASS.
UH, AND, UH, IT SAYS OVERPASS, BUT UNBELIEF, THE DESIGNS ARE FOR AN UNDERPASS.
UH, SO IF WE WANNA, IF WE WANTED TO TRY TO ADD THAT, SO COUNCILOR RACHEL, LET ME ASK, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WERE HOPING TO ADD THE SECOND OVERPASS BACK INTO IT, OR YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE WORRIED THAT BECAUSE IT'S TWO PROPOSITIONS WE MIGHT CHOOSE THAT VOTERS MIGHT NOT, UH, FOREGO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN AND JUST DO THE RIGHT.
YEAH, NO, I THINK THE ONE 50 OVERPASS WILL BE A NEED DEFINITELY DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT AND ESPECIALLY JUST CONGESTION WITH TRAFFIC COMING FROM AUSTIN OR BUDA IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY THAT IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO DO THE OVERPASS THERE RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ADDED TO THE FIRST PROPOSITION.
I'M FINE WITH SPLITTING BECAUSE I'M CONFLICTED, I'M FINE WITH SPLITTING THEM UP.
AND IF WE SPLIT THEM UP, THIS MAKES SENSE.
BUT IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE THE OVERPASS AND YOU MOVE IT TO THE FIRST PROPOSITION, THEN THAT LEAVES, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT FOR PROPOSITION TWO.
I DO KNOW THAT MARKETPLACE AVENUE SHOULD BE PRIORITY.
AND IF WE MOVE ANYTHING UP, I WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE PD NEEDS THAT ROAD MARKETPLACES.
CAN I JUST REAL QUICK? I JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE BEGINNING I WAS, I WASN'T IN FAVOR OF SPLIT THESE UP, BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE VOTERS WERE TELLING THERE'S $167 MILLION BOND, $125 MILLION BOND IS STILL BEING COMPLETELY HONEST, REALLY WELL.
OUR NEED IS THE TWO BONDS COMBINED.
THESE ARE, ARE OUR BIGGEST, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE NEED NOW.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CONVENIENT TIMES IN THE CITY, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S APPARENT THAT WE NEED THESE ROADS.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO, FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER JUST COMBINING THE TWO BONDS, GIVING THE CITIZENS A CLEAR NUMBER
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AND THEY'RE SPLITTING IT UP.LIKE, IT JUST FEELS LIKE SMOKE AND MIRRORS TO A LITTLE BIT, I THINK COMBINING THE TWO, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THESE ROADS ON THOSE FIRST TWO BONDS ARE MUCH NEEDED.
AND I THINK, UH, WE NEED TO JUST BE TRANSPARENT.
CORY, THE CITIZENS, THEY LOOK, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.
THIS IS WHAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING BECAUSE OF OUR STUDY.
THESE ARE THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT.
AND LET'S JUST PUT ONE CLEAR NUMBER OUT THERE.
I'M GOING TO SAY, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE MAD AT THE BOND THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED AND WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING TO UTILIZE FOR THE, FOR THE PARKS.
AND THAT WAS VOTED ON TWO YEARS AGO.
SO I CANNOT IMAGINE IF WE CAME TO THE ONES WHO WERE UPSET, WHY TO YOUR DELAY.
SO, BUT MY WHOLE POINT IS IF THEY'RE MAD AT A BOND THAT PASSED TWO YEARS AGO, IF WE COMBINE THESE SO LIKELIHOOD OF ANY OF THEM PASSING IS GOING TO BE NONE.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK, I THINK IF WE KEEP IT SEPARATE AND EVEN IF LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW SAID, MAYBE WE PUT RM F150, WEST EXTENSION AS ITS OWN T AND THE REASON WHY I'M DOING THIS, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RESIDENTS HAVE, IF IT WERE ME, WE JUST BREAK IT ALL DOWN.
THERE'D BE 15 DIFFERENT BONDS.
UM, WHICH IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
WE KNOW THAT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR ROAD ACROSS TOWN.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU IT WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE, BUT IT WOULD BE FAIR, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE MOST FAIR WHAT PEOPLE AND YOU WOULD GET A TRUE, ACCURATE VOTE ON WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
WELL, WHEREVER THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF VOTES IN TOWN, I PROMISE YOU, YOU WILL GET SOME VOTERS OR YOU WOULD GET THEM.
THE ONES THAT ARE ON THIS WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER.
IF YOU PUT ALL THESE INDIVIDUALLY, I PROMISE YOU THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL VOTES THAT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN BEFORE.
MY WHOLE POINT BEING, IF WE DO TWO SEPARATE ONES, PROBABLY NOT GOING TO PASS.
MAYBE THAT MY HOPE IS THEY BOTH PASS, BUT IF WE COMBINED THEM ALL THE LIKELIHOOD OF THEM PASSING WHEN THEY SEE THAT BIG NUMBER WOULD BE WELL, VERY LOW RATE, REALLY, IT COULD GO EITHER WAY, BECAUSE IF, IF THERE TRULY IS, UH, AN IMBALANCE IN VOTER TURNOUT BETWEEN EAST VERSUS WEST OR WHATEVER, THEN ADDING AN OVERPASS IS GOING TO BENEFIT.
THE ENTIRE CITY COULD INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF A VOTER VOTING ON THE WEST SIDE OF KYLE TO VOTE FOR THE BOND.
IF WE BOOK EVERYTHING TOGETHER, DO IT.
I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT COMBINING A BOND ONE IN BOND TWO, COMBINING BOND THREE, WITH THAT, THE ONLY CONCERN I SEE WITH IT.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND WE ALL NEED ALL THESE ROADS LIKE FOUR YEARS AGO OR LONGER.
UM, BUT WHATEVER BOND PASSES, WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LOGISTICS PART OF IT ALL.
THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN OUR CITY WITH ALL THESE ROADS.
AND WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO HAVE PLANS TO MAKE SURE WE UTILIZE TRAFFIC AND REROUTE TRAFFIC IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT ALSO THAT WITH WHATEVER PASSES, UM, WHEN THE CONCRETE STARTS SKINNED TO BE POOR, IT'S GOING TO TAKE, OBVIOUSLY WHEN I SEE 53 MONTHS, GENERALLY ANOTHER ONE'S 60 MONTHS, 46 MONTHS, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LONG TIME FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH DETOURS AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION ZONES.
SO BY ADDING ALL OF THESE ALTOGETHER, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN THAT SENSE FOR OUR, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE SOMETIMES A MESS LIKE YOU HAVE IN LARGER CITIES WHERE YOU'VE GOT SO MANY ROADS CLOSED DOWN, UH, AND TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT, YOU'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION ON THE EAST CONSTRUCTION ON THE WEST.
I MEAN, JUST IMAGINE ALL THAT.
SO IT'S A MATTER OF LIKE WHAT'S PRIORITY AND WHAT CAN EVENTUALLY WE CAN WORK WITH, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, WHAT DO OUR CIP PROGRAMS, OR WHAT ARE OUR C OUR PROJECTS LOOK AT TO WHERE MAYBE SOME OF THESE ROADS WE CAN DO? IN-HOUSE WHETHER IT'S THE, UH, REPAIRS OR THE RECONSTRUCTION.
CAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION AND WE HAD REPAIRS IN LOOKING AT IT LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD USE OUR GENERAL FUND MONEY.
UH, THAT'S ALREADY ASSIGNED TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE TAKE ONE OF THESE ROADS OUT THAT MAYBE PASSED OR DIDN'T PASS.
AND WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.
AND WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION, WE CAN ALSO, UM, HELP OR TRAIN,
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UH, NEW EMPLOYEES OR EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THESE ROADS FOR, TO WHERE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE TO WHERE SOME OF THESE ROADS WE CAN HAVE THEM JUST FIX.UH IN-HOUSE AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT IN, IN, IN THOSE EYES.
IS THERE A, WELL, I'M SORRY, WE DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT FULL CREW YET WHERE WE CAN DO UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.
DO THE PAVING, DO THE CONCRETE SIDEWALK.
THERE WAS NO WOULD BE A VERY HUGE UNDERTAKING.
IS THERE, IS THERE A DESIRE OF THE COUNCIL TO TRY AND PRIORITIZE, WHICH OF THESE ROADS, WHETHER IT'S ONE PROPER OR TWO PROPS, IS HE FROZEN ROBERT? I THINK YOU'RE FROZEN.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE DID THE FIRST TIME WHEN WE BROKE IT DOWN.
WE DID, I CAN GO EITHER WAY, ONE PROP OR TWO PROPS, BUT I DO THINK THAT IF WE KEEP IT TO MARKETPLACE SHOULD BE MOVED TO THE FIRST PRODUCT.
WELL, SO IF, IF MARKETPLACE, SO THERE ARE MARKETPLACES THE ONE ROAD THAT HAS THE, HAS MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PATHS TO CONSTRUCTION.
UM, IT'S THE ONE ROAD THAT COULD BE REMOVED FROM THIS ENTIRELY.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU'RE WANTING TO GUARANTEE AND NOT PUT IT UP TO THE VOTERS, YOU COULD JUST TAKE IT OUT ALTOGETHER AND USE TERS ONE REVENUES.
UH, CAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT TERS ONE IS PRODUCING THE CASH FLOWS TO BORROW THE DEBT AND YOU COULD DO IT.
SO THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OPTIONS.
THAT'S NOT REALLY MY PREFERENCE THOUGH.
UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE POTENTIAL USES FOR TERSE ONE REVENUES THAT MIGHT BE MORE INTERESTING TO THE COUNCIL THEN FOR THE MARKETPLACE, BUT, AND YEAH, AND IT'S UNDER ONE MILE IT'S 0.6 AND IT WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY MAYBE 20 MONTHS TO COMPLETE.
YEAH, IT'S GOING TO GO, IT CAN GO SO FAST, THE RIGHT AWAY.
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS TO TRADE FOR THAT RIGHT AWAY.
SO IT GOES FROM A $12 MILLION PROJECT TO A $10 MILLION PROJECT.
SO HOW FAST IS SO FAST BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS GOING TO BE FINISHED IN LIKE 200 DAYS.
RIGHT? WELL, WHEN WE DID OUR 2013 ROAD BOND, THE FIRST ROAD TO BE BUILT WAS MARKETPLACE BECAUSE IT WAS ALL 31 OWNER'S LAND.
THERE WAS NO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC TO WORK AROUND AND IT'S JUST UTILITIES.
THAT'S WHY IT'S CHEAPER AND EASIER.
SO WE CAN DO THE MARKETPLACE EXTENSION FAST.
THERE'D BE AN IMMEDIATE, UH, VISIBILITY TO THE ROAD, THE PROJECTS.
SO I REALLY KIND OF, I WANT TO LEAVE IT, BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO FUND THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THERE ARE NO OTHER WAYS TO FUND BASICALLY EVERYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PATH.
BUT SO, BUT MY QUESTION ABOUT PRIORITIZATION IS SO IS IT BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE, UH, OURSELVES NOW AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHICH OF THESE PROJECTS WE'RE GOING TO KICK OFF FIRST? BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO LEARN.
AND WE'VE BEEN BEING BRIEFED BY OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR THAT WHILE YES, WE CAN PRESENT A $297 MILLION BOND, UH, WITH THE 9 CENT TAX INCREASE.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH, UH, CAPACITY WITHIN THE FIRST FEW YEARS TO KICK THAT OFF AND WE HAVE TO WAIT TO KICK OFF THE REST.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF STRATEGY FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO LAY THESE ROADS OUT, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, WHICH ARE GOING TO GO FIRST.
MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE, I WANT TO JUST SAY IS TO SAY NO, THAT WE DO NOT, THAT WE SAY THESE ARE ALL OF THEIR PRIORITIES, BECAUSE IF WE SAID, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE DID NOT WANT TO, WE WANTED STAGECOACH TO GO OFF LAST.
UH, UH, AND WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON BB AND BUNTIN AND WINDY HILL THAT MIGHT HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE TURNOUT.
SO WE NEED A CHANCE TO LET THE VOTERS DECIDE WHETHER THIS GROUPING OF PROJECTS IS THE RIGHT GROUPING.
UM, CAN WE PUT THAT IN THE BOND, LIKE A VOTE FOR LIKE THOSE PROJECT FIRST, THIS PROJECT FIRST, NOT JUST LIKE PROP ONE, PROP TWO, AND THEN WE KNOW THAT'S WHERE WE FOCUS ON.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHERE I GUESS WE, UM, WE REALLY RELY ON OUR MR. BARDEN IN THIS GROUP TO DO THOSE SURVEYS, TO DO A SURVEY, AS FAR AS WHAT THEY FEEL THE RESIDENTS WOULD FEEL VERSUS IN REFERENCING THERE'S TWO PROPOSITIONS, ONE AND TWO, AND THE SURVEY WOULD GO OUT AND IT WOULD HIT ALL OF THE CITY AND GET THE RESIDENTS INVOLVED.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MATTER THE MOST, THEY'RE THE ONES GOING TO BE DRIVING ON THE ROAD AND THERE'LL BE THE ONES, UH, FLIPPING THE BILL.
UM, THAT WOULD BE A SUGGESTION THAT
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I WOULD HAVE IS TO PUT IT OUT THERE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO SAY, THESE ARE THE ROADS.THIS IS WHAT COUNCIL'S LOOKING AT.
IS THERE ANY INPUT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR COMMENTS AND SO FORTH, CONSTRUCTIVE COMPETENCE, EVERYONE, UH, ABOUT THESE ROADS IN, IN HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
I MEAN, TALKING ABOUT PUTTING OUT WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT, BECAUSE IN 2013 THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHICH ROADS WERE GOING TO GO FIRST OR THROATS.
AND THAT PECKING ORDER, IF WE, IF WE PRESENT THAT TO THE VOTERS FOLKS, IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE ROAD THAT GOES FIRST IS CLOSEST TO YOU.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT ME ACKNOWLEDGING, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NO ROAD, I HAVE WANTED TO SEE RECONSTRUCTED IN THIS TOWN, MORE THAN STAGECOACH I HAVE MADE AND PERVEZ CAN, CAN TELL YOU JUST HOW LONG I'VE BEEN PUSHING TO GET STAGECOACH RECONSTRUCTED.
I, I DO NOT NECESSARILY THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE THE ROAD THAT WE SEND OFF FIRST.
BUT IF YOU TAKE STAGE COACH OFF THE LIST AS THE PRIORITY PROJECT, IT'S REALLY THE ONLY WEST.
IT'S REALLY THE ONLY SIGNIFICANT ROAD ON THE WEST THAT PEOPLE USE EVERY DAY THAT WOULD BE MOTIVATING FOR THEM.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION SELECTION, WHICH IS THE NEXT SECTION OF THIS.
I'M TRYING TO SORT OF SEGUE, UM, AND, AND WOULD PREFER THAT WE ADOPT A STRATEGY OF THESE ROADS ARE ALL IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE DONE SURVEYS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE COMMUNICATED THAT ALL OF THESE ROADS THAT WE ARE PRESENTING ARE IMPORTANT AND THEY ARE SORT OF CROWDSOURCED.
I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT GRAPHIC FROM OUR SURVEY THAT SHOWS THE MAIN ROADS AND IT'S STAGECOACH, WENDY HILL BUTTON BB, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE MAIN ONES.
UM, I WOULD PREFER TO JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THAT AS WELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION DERIVED FROM LESS CENTRAL PLACES, LIKE MAYBE, UM, DO AN EVENT ON THE EAST SIDE AND GET SOME FEEDBACK OVER THERE.
WHEN I WAS WATCHING, UM, SOME OF THE VIDEO, I THINK, IN THE LAST MEETING FOR ANOTHER LIKE GATHERING OF INFORMATION, IT WAS A LOT OF IT WAS DONE AT MARKET DAYS.
A LOT OF IT WAS DONE AT THE CENTRAL AND I GET IT AS A CENTRAL PLACE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY NOT ALL OF THE EAST SIDE COMES TO THOSE EVENTS.
AND SO TO GET A FAIR ASSESSMENT, MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING RIGHT.
THEN EVERYTHING I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE EAST SIDE, EVERY WORD OUT OF MY, YEAH, NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M NOT ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS ADDITIONAL INQUIRIES FROM PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY DON'T UNDERSTAND OR ARE AWARE THAT THERE WERE REMAINING AT MARY KARL HARTSON PARK TO HAVE A GATHERING AND TALK WHETHER IF IT'S A LANGUAGE BARRIER OR WHATEVER IT IS, MAYBE WE ALSO HOLD SOMETHING ON THE EAST SIDE AT LAKE KYLE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH.
THAT'S SO JEFF QUESTION, BUT I WOULD ASSUME HE'S GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALL OVER TOWN BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE, I'M SORRY.
DO YOU, DO YOU WORK WITH THE CHOICE AS WELL? JUST TO BE LIKE, AS LOCALIZED AS POSSIBLE.
TYPICALLY WE WORK WITH BONDS, WE TRY AND GET INFORMATION DIRECTLY TO HOA SO THEY CAN PUT OUT TO THEIR MEMBERS AND THEN OFFER TO HAVE WHAT WE OFTEN CALL POP-UP MEETINGS, OR, YOU KNOW, SPAWN SMALL MEETINGS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS OR THAT SORT OF THING.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO GET INFORMATION IN THE HANDS OF HOS WHO HAVE, UH, WEBSITES OR FACEBOOK PAGES THAT WE CAN PUT, YOU KNOW, DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION ABOUT THE BONDS WILL PROVIDE THE CONTENT OR, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE DATA AT LEAST THAT THEY NEED SO THEY CAN HELP SHARE THAT MESSAGE.
W W WHAT, UH, HERE, HERE'S AN IDEA.
WHAT IF FOR ONE WEEK MAYOR, IF WE SET UP IN REAL TIME TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ON ALL THESE ROADS, OKAY.
TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS BASICALLY SEEING HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS COMING IN AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, CERTAIN DAYS OF THE WEEK, AND CALCULATE THOSE NUMBERS AND SEE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS TRAVELED ON EACH ONE.
CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW SURFACE WIDE, THEY ALL NEED TO BE REDONE BECAUSE OF THE, THE FOUNDATION, THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF.
BUT IF WE USE THAT DATA, THAT ANALYSIS THAT WOULD REALLY TELL US HOW MUCH MORE HEAVIER TRAFFIC IS BEING FLOWED THROUGH, AND THAT CAN GIVE US A BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBER OF THE AMOUNT OF CARS DRIVEN ON A SATURDAY MORNING VERSUS A MONDAY AFTERNOON.
AND THAT RIGHT THERE COULD GIVE US NUMBERS OF 1,169 CARS OR WHATEVER IT IS, UH, ON SATURDAY VERSUS MAYBE 400.
AND THAT COULD MAYBE HELP US IDENTIFY THE MOST TRAVELED ROADS TO WHERE WE CAN BABY BREAK DOWN TO SAY, HEY, LOOK, THIS COULD BE MORE OF A PRIORITY
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ROAD THAN THE OTHER BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S TRAVEL.AND WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE WE CALLED THE BOND TO WHERE WE CAN, AT LEAST WHETHER IT'S JUST A WEEK LONG BEFORE WE DECIDE, UH, LIKE THE PRIORITY AND JUST THAT WAY WE COULD SAY, AND THAT CAN ALSO GIVE US REAL TIME INFORMATION, MR. BARTON, TO WHERE THE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL, WHY IS THIS ROAD MORE IMPORTANT? WELL, ACCORDING TO OUR DATA ANALYSIS, THESE ROADS ARE TRAVELED MORE ON THE WEEKENDS OR TRAVELED MORE DURING THE WEEK VERSUS THIS ONE.
SO WE'RE HAVING TO LOOK AT THE HIGHER TRAFFIC FLOW AND YOU UTILIZE THAT INFORMATION AS FAR AS MAKING THE DECISION AS FAR AS WHICH ONE GOES FIRST AND SO FORTH ON THAT END.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M FEEL THAT THE MOST LIKE THE BC IS ROADS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE, WILL STRUGGLE FIRST.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO YEAH.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR POINT IS LIKE ANALYZE, WHICH WENT OUT TO THE BUSIEST ONE THEN BEFORE WE DIG INTO THAT HAVE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES FOR THOSE DRIVERS TO GO BY THE TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BLOGGED THAT ROAD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND YOU CAN EXACTLY PERFECT.
CAUSE YOU COULD UTILIZE ALL THAT DATA AND SAY, LET'S SAY THE STREET IS MORE BUSIER THAN BB ROAD AT CERTAIN PARTS OF THE DAY.
AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE PROPOSITION AND WE COULD SAY, THESE ARE THE ROADS THAT ARE ON THERE AND THIS IS WHY THIS IS NUMBER ONE, HERE'S THE DATA, HERE'S THE INFORMATION.
HERE'S HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, AND STOPLIGHTS AND STOP SIGNS AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES FOR A CAR TO GO THROUGH, UM, THAT ALSO COULD BE USED FOR LATER ON WHEN CONSTRUCTION BEGINS, YOU CAN SAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD.
NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO PUT THIS AS A PRIORITY STREET, BUT WE'VE ALREADY HAD PRE ROUTE DETOURS READY TO GO.
AND TO WHERE, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS, THIS IS THE TIME OF THE DAY.
THIS IS THE TIME OF THE WEEK WHERE IT'S THE MOST HEAVIEST AND WE CAN BE ABLE TO STRATEGIZE THE ROAD CLOSURES AND EVERYTHING ELSE FROM THERE.
SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO WHEN I DRAFTED WHAT YOU HAVE AS A ELECTION ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU, I DID NOT GIVE PRIORITIZATION FOR ROADS.
I PUT THE ROADS INTO THE PROPOSITION BASED ON THE SPREADSHEET THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE ENGINEER.
THERE WAS NO INTENT FOR THIS TO LIST WHO GOES FIRST AND WHO GOES SECOND.
IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT'S COMING ACROSS, I WOULD PROBABLY GO BACK AND PUT THESE ROADS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BECAUSE THERE REALLY WAS NO INTENT TO SAY THAT BB ROAD WENT FIRST BECAUSE IT'S LISTED FIRST ON THE PROPOSITION.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE DISCUSSION.
I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LIKE, THESE ARE THE ROADS IN GENERAL, THAT WOULD BE READY FOR PROPOSITION ONE AND THEN PROPOSITION TWO.
AND I THINK MAYBE INTERNALLY FOR US, WHEN WE VOTE TO SAY, OKAY, THESE ROADS GOT APPROVED NOW, WHICH ONE GOES FIRST, WE USE THAT INFORMATION.
WE USE THAT DATA THAT WE HAVE TO WHEN WE START THE CONSTRUCTION ITSELF.
BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, YES, WHEN PEOPLE SEE, OH, BB IS FIRST, I DON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
I'M NOT VOTING FOR THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THESE ARE THE ROADS IN GENERAL THAT, THAT ARE ON THE PROPOSITION THAT WE FEEL THAT WELL, WE SEE THAT IS THE PRIORITY, RIGHT.
BUT IF YOU NEVER, IF YOU NEVER DRIVE BB AND BB IS THE ROAD THAT HAS THE MOST TRAFFIC AND YOU NEVER DRIVE IT, DO YOU WANT YOUR TAXES TO GO UP, TO PAY FOR IT REGARDLESS OF HOW BAD IT IS OR THE TRAFFIC, IT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM.
SO I, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AS WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S NO ANALYSIS YOU CAN REALLY DO FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT OF, I MEAN, THERE IS ANALYSIS YOU CAN DO, BUT IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE.
LIKE IF WE'RE DOING THE SETON, OH, YOU KNOW, THE KOHLER'S OVERPASS TO SEATON, THAT'S A WHOLE NEW ROAD THAT ALLEVIATES PRESSURE FROM BB.
UH, AND, AND SO THERE'S SOME CONSIDERATION THAT HAS TO BE MADE THERE.
HAVE WE GOT THE RIGHT ROADS THAT ARE GONNA CONNECT WITH THE PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM SAY YES.
OH, I, I THINK WHAT ALL I WAS LOOKING AT WAS LET'S SAY PROPOSITION PAST HOW WE DECIDE AS COUNCIL, WHICH GOES FIRST USING THAT DATA AND ON THAT END AND GOING FORWARD AND SAYING, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAYBE WENDY HILL WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN STAGECOACH OR STAGECOACH WAS THE HIGHEST AND THEN SO FORTH.
WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE MY INTENTION TO AT LEAST ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER STARTING THE ENGINEERING AND RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION ON ONE OR TWO OF THESE PROJECTS BEFORE THE BO THE, THE BOND, SO THAT WE'VE GOT THEM UNDERWAY.
IT MAKES ME WONDER IF WE MIGHT NEED TO REARRANGE THIS PROPOSITIONS AND THE ROADS
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THAT ARE IN EACH OF THEM, BECAUSE MAYBE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE SOME SORT OF MIXTURE BETWEEN NEW ROADS AND, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS CONSTRUCTION JUST TO ALLOW FOR THE VOTERS TO HAVE NOT TO BE SO CENTRALIZED.I DON'T DRIVE THESE ROADS, SO I'M NOT VOTING FOR THIS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A MIXTURE OF NEW AND ALL CONSTRUCTION IN PROPOSITION ONE AT THE SAME TIME, DOING A STUDY OF LIKE, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO CREATE AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FOR THE NEXT ROADS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDED FOR THE NEXT PREPOSITION.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT I JUST SAID? I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE IT MADE SENSE, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
WELL, WHAT WE DID IS WE SEPARATED ON PURPOSE AND WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT IS FOR US TO MIX THEM.
SO PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH NO, I DON'T RIDE THAT.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS GOING TO BE THAT MAYBE WE TALK TO SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS ABOUT THIS.
WHO'S AN ENGINEER WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE, WHO COULD LOOK AT A MAP AND GUIDE COUNSEL AND NOT JUST SIT HERE INDIVIDUALLY AS PEOPLE WHO RIDE CERTAIN ROADS, BUT MAYBE GO TO OUR LEADERSHIP AND ASK THEM THEIR PROFESSIONAL OPINION.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS LEON, YOU THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.
I DON'T ENGINEER IT JUST SO LONG AS YOU DON'T ASK OUR LEADERSHIP ON THE STAFF LEVEL TO PERFORM POLITICAL ANALYSIS ON OUR BEHALF.
OH NO, THAT WOULD, THAT I WOULD BE HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED IF THAT'S THE RESPONSE THAT I RECEIVED.
AND I PROBABLY WOULDN'T ASK THAT IF I FELT LIKE MY STAFF MEMBER WOULD GIVE THAT BACK TO ME.
UM, AND WE COULD ALSO EVEN OBTAIN ADDITIONAL IF LEON'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS BEYOND MY SCOPE AND THIS IS A HUGE BOND AND HE'S NERVOUS.
HE CAN ALSO OBTAIN HOPEFULLY ADDITIONAL OUTSIDE INFORMATION TO HELP US DECIDE, MAKE THIS DECISION.
I THINK THAT WAS A QUESTION TO YOU, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT, BUT MY, MY GOAL IS TO PUT, FOCUS ON THE EXPERTS, THE PEOPLE THAT WE HIRE, AND WE CAN TRUST TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS, TO GUIDE US AND TO MAKING THE BEST CHOICE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROJECT SINCE IT BEGAN.
AND I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT, THAT, UH, I'M FORESEEING IS THE, UM, EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME TO DO IS TO WHICH ONE GOES FIRST, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE ONLY HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES FOR MOVING UTILITIES.
THERE'S LIMITED RESOURCES FROM PEC TO MOVE THEIR, THEIR LINES AND STUFF.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM TO TELL THEM THIS IS A ROAD THAT WE WANT FIRST, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONCENTRATE ON THAT ROAD, DO THEIR ENGINEERING, DO THEIR RELOCATIONS AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET THESE ROADS READY FOR US TO REBUILD.
SO THE ROADS THAT WE PICK A MAYOR, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
MARKETPLACE IS GOING TO GO FIRST.
IT'S JUST, IT DID ON THE LAST BOND ELECTION.
IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST ONE ON THE LAST PANEL, BOND ELECTION, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BUT HE WENT FIRST BECAUSE IT WAS GREENFIELD WAS EASY TO, TO BUILD REBUILD THAT ROAD.
UH, WE CAN LOOK AT THESE AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT LOOKING AT POLITICS, I'LL BE LOOKING STRICTLY AT ENGINEERING.
WHAT'S THE BEST ONE TO TRY TO HIT FIRST LOOKING AT THE POSSIBLE DETOURS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE FOR THOSE PREDICTOR ROADS AND SEATS.
SEE WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHAT MAKES, WHAT MAKES SENSE FROM AN ENGINEERING SIDE? YEAH.
AND MAYBE IF WE GAVE HIM SOME MORE GUIDANCE, LIKE WHAT ROADS ARE GOING TO CONNECT KYLE IN THE BEST WAY, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT BB ROAD AND I UNDERSTAND THEY NEED THOSE ROADS UPDATED.
BUT OUR GOAL, I THINK IN UPDATING OUR ROADS IS TO MAKE KYLE MORE CONNECTIVE AND NOT HAVING A 30 MINUTE DRIVE FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO MILES.
SO MAYBE IF WE GAVE ADDITIONAL, AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, IF WE WANT TO COLLECTIVELY TO LEON, WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON, THAT WILL MAKE HIS JOB EASIER.
I AGREE, BUT I, I HAVE, I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME IN THESE ROADS TOO.
AND I HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT WHICH ROADS I THINK WE SHOULD KICK OFF.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NOW BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN THE BEST INTEREST, PUT IT ON THE BOND.
I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST LAY OUT.
THESE ARE, THIS IS THE SCOPE, THIS IS THE COST.
THIS IS THE TAX RATE IN IMPACT.
GIVE EVERYBODY HOPEFULLY SOMETHING TO THAT.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL IMPACT EVERY CITIZEN IN A POSITIVE WAY TO GIVE THEM A REASON TO VOTE FOR IT.
UH, AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
BUT THEN ALSO AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE GETTING STARTED ON THIS DETERMINE POTENTIALLY ONE PROJECT OR TWO THAT WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO, THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, AND THEN WE COULD START THE RIGHT OF WAY AND ENGINEERING OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.
BUT NOT NECESSARILY RIGHT NOW, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
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IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK FOR SURE.AND IT SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION.
UM, AND AGAIN, I S NOT FOR THE BOND, BUT A DISCUSSION IN GENERAL AND IT SHOULD BE VOTED ON IN GENERAL.
AND I WOULD LIKE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LEON HAVE REALLY GOOD DIRECTION TO MAKE HIS JOB EASIER.
MAYOR, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ASKED, COULD WE DO SOMETHING IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO, TO REALLY, UM, SEEK OUT CITIZENS' OPINIONS ON THAT? AND I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO COMBINE SOME OF THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DO BEFORE YOU CALL THE BOND.
AND THERE IT'D BE HARD TO GET ANY KIND OF MEANINGFUL ENGAGEMENT, GET THAT BACK AND LEAVE YOU ALL OPPORTUNITIES TO CALL YOUR BOND ON TIME.
AND THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS, AS YOU SAID, UNLESS YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE FULL CONTEXT TO PEOPLE, THEN PEOPLE MISREAD THOSE PRIORITIES.
IT CAN LEAD TO SOME PROBLEMS IN THE ELECTION, BUT I THINK WE CAN INCLUDE SOME INTERACTIVITY IN SOME OF THOSE ARE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT LET PEOPLE, UM, EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS OR EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS ON, ON WHERE PRIORITIES NEED TO BE, OR HOW MOBILITY IS THAT GIVES YOU SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD USE IN THE FOLLOWING MONTHS, AS YOU STRUGGLE WITH HOW TO PRIORITIZE OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO HAVE IT.
SO LET'S SAY, SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE REALLY TWO QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ANSWER HERE IS NUMBER ONE IS WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE WE GOOD WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED? AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS ONE PROPOSITION OR TWO I'VE HEARD ARGUMENTS FOR BOTH.
UH, SO WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER FOCUSING ON THOSE AND MAYBE TAKING, TAKING VOTES ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE BOAT THAT WE NEED SO THAT STAFF CAN PRESENT TO US.
IT'S REALLY HARD AND COMPLICATED, AND NOBODY'S GOING TO NECESSARILY FEEL PERFECT BECAUSE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PREDICT THE FUTURE HERE, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I WOULD PREFER TO HEAR FROM JEFF AND PERVEZ ONE PROPER TWO FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS AND THEIR, THEIR OPINIONS.
AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN TRY TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM LEON TOO, TO SEE IF, IF YOU CONSIDER PROPOSITION ONE, MAKES SENSE PROPOSITION TO MAKE SENSE, OR DO WE NEED TO BE SWAPPING SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS IN BETWEEN PROPOSITIONS? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL HAVE TO REVIEW IT OR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER.
I WAS IN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS.
AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO LET'S FIX THE OLD ROADS FIRST.
UM, BUT I ALSO SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF PROVIDING NEW ROUTES FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO USE, TO GET SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC OFF THE EXISTING ROADS AND, AND, AND SPREAD THE TRAFFIC AROUND, SO TO SPEAK.
SO IT'S, AGAIN, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THE EXISTING ROADS, BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE OF MY BACKGROUND WITH, UH, OPERATIONS OF MAINTENANCE FOR SO MANY YEARS THAT, UH, UH, WE, WE COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THE OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE.
IT WAS JUST DIFFICULT BECAUSE HE HAD TO REPAIR ROADS UNDER, UNDER TRAFFIC.
SO NEW ROADS, THEY'RE EASY TO BUILD BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY IN YOUR WAY.
THAT'S WHY HE SAID DIVISION'S GETTING BUILT SO FAST.
THERE'S NOBODY OUT THERE TO STOP YOU FROM.
YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL.
YOU JUST GOT THERE AND BUILD YOUR ROAD AND YOU'RE DONE.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE.
I WAS HOPING Y'ALL, WOULDN'T ASK ME THAT QUESTION.
IT IS STRICTLY A COUNCIL DECISION AS STAFF, WE WILL SUPPORT AND MAKE MEGAN WORK W WHETHER WE HAVE ONE PROP TO PROP OR INDIVIDUAL PROPS.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THE MORE OPTIONS LOADERS HAVE THE BETTER TO MAKE THEIR DECISION AS A VOTER MYSELF, NOT IN COP, BUT ANOTHER JURISDICTION.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON MY BRAND PROPOSITIONS, BUT HARASSED JUST REAL QUICK.
WOULD YOU LEAVE PROP THREE OFF BECAUSE IT'S THE SMALLEST ONE AND VOTERS COULD BE INCLINED TO GO AFTER THAT REAL SMALL NUMBER, AND NOW LOOK AT WHAT THE ROADWAY ARE, OR WOULD YOU GO WITH PROP WANTING TO JUST POP ONE INTO WHAT I MEANT? WHAT IS, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? OH, THE, THE VERY LAST ONE 40 WEST EXTENSION.
MAY I APPROACH HIM? I DON'T THINK WE WERE CONSIDERING THAT AS A PROPOSITION.
I THINK THAT WAS JUST, THOSE WERE JUST ROADS WE CATEGORIZED AS THE IT'S THE LARGEST.
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I HEARD A COUNCIL MEMBER STATES THAT WERE READY PUMPED THREE.THAT'S WHY IT WORRIED ME WHEN I CALL IT TOMORROW.
NO, IT'S JUST EXCLUDED FROM THE BOND IN HIS YES, SIR.
UM, OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO WE KNOW HOW MANY LANES CENTER STREET TO VETERANS DRIVE IS GOING TO BE? DID YOU JUST LOOK OVER HERE SOMEWHERE? I DON'T THINK THEY'RE PROPOSING NECESSARILY TO ADD LANES, BUT IT WOULD BE.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE THING IS MORE OPTIONS IS GOOD FOR VOTERS BECAUSE THAT GIVES THE VOTERS THE ABILITY TO BE MORE SELECTIVE AND BEING MORE SELECTIVE ALLOWS FOR DIFFERENT VOTER GROUPS TO DECIDE AND SHAPE OUTCOMES OF VOTES.
IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE ARGUMENT OF LET'S PUT EVERY ROAD OUT THERE AND LET THE VOTERS PICK AND CHOOSE EACH ONE, WHICH WILL WEIGH THE OUTCOMES BASED ON POPULATION CENTERS AND VOTING, VOTING BLOCKS.
I, LISTEN, I AGREE WITH PREVENTATIVES.
IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION, BUT I WILL OFFER SOME INSIGHTS MAYBE FROM WORKING WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF TRUTH TO WHAT PERVEZ SAYS THAT VOTERS REALLY LIKED TO SEE MULTIPLE PROPOSITIONS.
UM, I'M NOT SURE THOUGH, THAT THAT LEADS TO VOTERS VOTING FOR MULTIPLE PROPOSITIONS.
WELL, VOTERS LIKE THAT, AS YOU SAID, MIRROR, WHAT THAT, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SOMETIMES IS THAT LEADS TO DIFFERENT VOTING BLOCKS IN A COMMUNITY, THEN LINING UP BEHIND THEIR SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY OR FOR THEIR PARTICULAR ROADS LOOKING AT JUST RECENT HISTORY AND INSTANCE WHERE TEXAS, I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO THE COUNCIL.
WE JUST WORKED, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN PFLUGERVILLE, CEDAR PARK, BUDA, UH, HAYES COUNTY UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR ON ROAD PROJECTS.
SO ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES STRUGGLED WITH THIS SAME ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER.
I WILL SAY THAT MOST OF ENDED UP CHOOSING ONE PROPOSITION FOR TRANSPORTATION.
THEY WENT WITH ONE PROPOSITION FOR SAY, IF THEY WERE DOING PARKS AND REC AS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ISSUE, BUILDING NEW PARKS, ONE FOR DRAINAGE, UM, ONE FOR FACILITIES AS YOU OFTEN SUCH AS LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THEN ONE FOR, UH, ROADS PFLUGERVILLE PASSED ONE, FOUR ROADS IN 2024 WITH 68% CEDAR PARK IN 2022 WITH 70% BUDA IN 2021 WITH 74% HE'S COUNTY IN 2016, 60%, UM, AUSTIN IN 20 18, 80 1%, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS A LIMITED ROAD PROJECT AND THE BIG AUSTIN RED PROJECT AND 720 MILLION IN 2016 FOR 59% THIS LAST YEAR IN, IN LIVE OAK ABOUT 67%, JUST DOWN THE CORRIDOR IN SAN ANTONIO.
SO THERE DOES SEEM TO BE A CRITICAL MASS IN THE REGION OF PEOPLE WHO REALLY WANT TO SEE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVED WHEREVER YOU ARE.
THIS IS A BIG AMOUNT FOR KYLE.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER FROM THE, FROM THE STRICTLY THE, THE PUBLIC EDUCATION OR THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PERSPECTIVE.
THERE'S A REAL BENEFIT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, YOU'VE GOT CHOICE.
I THINK THAT WILL PLAY WELL WITH SOME PEOPLE.
THERE'S, THERE'S SOME REAL COMPLICATION TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THE QUESTIONS THAT WILL INEVITABLY ARISE OR WHAT HAPPENS IF WE PASS ONE, BUT NOT TWO, OR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE PASS TWO AND NOT ONE, IF, IF THE, IF MAINTENANCE ARE YOUR PRIORITY, BUT THE NEW ROADS PASS, THEN THAT'S COMPLICATED AND TRY AND EXPLAIN THAT TO INDIVIDUAL GROUPS.
WHEREAS YOU TALK TO HOA IS THAT GETS A LITTLE, A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED.
SO I THINK IF YOU, IT'S NOT THAT WE CAN'T DO IT.
IT'S NOT THAT WE AREN'T HAPPY TO DO IT, BUT IF YOU TRY TO TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL SYSTEM OF CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE OVERALL NETWORK OF CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, THEN I WOULD SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO EXPLAIN THAT IN A WEBSITE AND HAVE MAPS THAT SHOW THAT ULTIMATE CONNECTIVITY AS A, AS A, A SINGLE COMBINED ENTITY.
AND AGAIN, I JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT THAT'S YOUR, I THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE IS A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER.
THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS TO WEIGH THERE AND YOU ALL ARE THE EXPERTS ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH ELSE TO DISCUSS.
CAUSE THAT'S THE SAME THING WE SAID LAST TIME, ACTUALLY, WE CAME TO THE AGREEMENT AND THE AGREEMENT THAT WE DID, SO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY TAKE AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE
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TO CHANGE IT.SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TRY TO COMBINE, THESE WILL NEED TO HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
OTHERWISE THE LAYOUT IS SET BECAUSE WE TOOK VOTES AT THE LAST MEETING.
MARY I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO COMBINE PROPOSITION ONE AND PROPOSITION TWO.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE SPLIT ALL THIS.
SO A IS MADE BY CUSTOMER BRADSHAW SECOND BY THE MAYOR THAT WE SPLIT, UH, THAT WE COMBINED PROPOSITIONS ONE AND TWO.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL UH, I'VE GOT MY EYE ON EVERYONE.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
I DO LIKE THE INA THAT DOES MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE DELAY.
SO THERE'S NOT TWO PROPOSITIONS.
SO EITHER ALL THE ROADS PASS OR NONE OF THEM, IT WAS FOUR TO TWO.
SO ME AND TOBY AS VOTED NAY, AND EVERYBODY ELSE VOTED YET.
I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE HEALTHY CONVERSATION THERE W IT WAS A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION.
I THINK WE LEARNED A LOT AND WE WERE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER HERE.
UH, HOW'S THE VOTE WITH, SO WE, YOU NEED TO REWRITE THE ORDINANCE THEN TO INCLUDE JUST ONE PROPOSITION AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF HAVE TO COME BACK AND VOTE ON THAT.
SO DOC, SO EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD BE THIS.
I CAN READ THIS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO BE THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR IT'LL BE ONE.
SO BASICALLY YOU'LL JUST HAVE YOUR PROPOSITION A I'LL REMOVE NEW STRAIGHT SUCCESS STRAIGHTS, AND THEN I'LL LIST ALL OF THE RED PROJECTS WITHIN THAT ONE.
I MEAN, THE PROPOSITION LANGUAGE ITSELF WILL STAY THE SAME.
AND THE LIST OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CALLED OUT WILL JUST BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ALL OF THEM.
SO OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, UM, WE CAN BRING IT INTO, WE CAN SEPARATE IT NEXT YEAR AND THEN VOTE AGAIN.
RIGHT? WHAT WOULD CAUSE THE WAY IT'S BEING PRESENTED NOW IS ALL OF THEM, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME BOND AS IF YOU SEPARATE IT AND MAKE IT DIFFERENT.
RIGHT? SO IF THIS BOND ELECTION DOES NOT PASS, THE CITY WOULD BE PROHIBITED FROM ISSUING CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS FOR ANY OF THE ENUMERATED ROAD PROJECTS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP THE CITY FROM CALLING ANOTHER BOND ELECTION, SAY CALL A BOND ELECTION TO PROBATE AND YOU'D CALL BON LUNCHEON FOR NOVEMBER.
AND SO IF THE BOND PROPOSITION DOES NOT PASS, YOU CAN CALL ANOTHER STREET'S BOND PROPOSITION WITH THE SAME STREETS, WITH THE SAME STROKE, THE PROHIBITION ONLY APPLIES TO CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS.
WHAT WOULD A TOURIST REVENUE BOND BE CONSIDERED A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION? NO.
UM, BUT A CERTIFICATE OBLIGATION PAID FROM TOURIST REVENUES.
REVENUE BOND WOULD NOT BE PROHIBITED.
SO THAT COULD BE MARKETPLACE, RIGHT.
IF, IF NECESSARY, IF, IF WORSE COMES TO WORSE, PREVENTABLE, LOVE THAT.
UM, YEAH, IT'S AN INSIDE THING.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, UM, LET'S TALK, LET'S TALK TAX RATE.
MY NAME'S ANDREW FRIEDMAN WITH SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS, UH, MARK MCCLAIN, HE'S BUSINESS PARTNER.
UH, THE BACK OF YOUR PACKET, WE PUT TOGETHER JUST A SIMPLE THREE SLIDES, UH, OUTLINING WHAT WE'RE CALLING OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, UH, TO, TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS.
THEY THEY'RE STRIKINGLY SIMILAR.
SO I WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY DISCUSS, UH, WHAT THOSE SIMILARITIES ARE AND WHAT UNDERPINS, UH, THE ANALYSIS THAT DRIVES, UH, THE, THESE TWO OPTIONS IN TERMS OF THE TAX RATE IMPACT.
UH, ONE, UH, THE CITY'S EXPERIENCE OVER THE LAST DECADE AND AVERAGE OF 15.1, 2% GROWTH, UH, EXPERIENCING ROUGHLY 33% GROWTH IN THIS CURRENT YEAR, IN A FUTURE YEARS WHERE WE'RE CONSIDERING THE TAX RATE IMPACT OF THIS BOND, UH, PROJECT OVER THE COURSE OF A DECADE, UH, WE CONSIDER 5% GROWTH ANNUALLY FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, AND THEN 2% GROWTH INTO PERPETUITY.
UH, IF YOU CONSIDER THAT INFLATION HISTORICALLY
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IS BETWEEN 2.9 AND 3.1%, UH, THAT GROWTH, UH, WE WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER, UH, TO BE CONSERVATIVE, UH, THE PROJECTED TAXABLE VALUES THAT ALSO UNDERPIN THIS ARE INCLUSIVE OR EXCLUSIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THAT YOU ALL, UH, MOST RECENTLY ADOPTED.SO WITH THAT, WE THEN CONSIDER HOW TO ACHIEVE THE FULL FINANCING.
UH, IF APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.
IN THIS CASE, IT WAS 279 MILLION BASED ON THE NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS MORNING, THAT'D BE 299 MILLION.
THE RESULT IS, IS VERY MUCH MANAGEABLE WITHIN WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE THOUGH, OF A POTENTIAL, UH, 8.2 SET TAX RATE INCREASE.
8.20 CENT TAX RATE INCREASE IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE FULL FINANCING, UH, THAT WE PROJECT BETWEEN BY AUGUST OF 2030.
UH, YOU'LL RECALL THAT YOUR CITY CHARTER, UH, WILL ALLOW FOR THAT AUTHORIZATION TO REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR A DECADE.
SO WE HAVE TO GET ANY OF THE BONDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE ISSUED BEFORE 2032, UH, IN EACH OF THESE SCENARIOS, YOU GET THERE BY 2030.
SO, UH, THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO ANALYSIS IS HOW QUICKLY WE CAN ISSUE THAT FULL AUTHORIZATION.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT OPTION ONE, UH, WE CONSIDER THE ISSUANCE OF $40 MILLION IN 2023, PRESUMABLY NEXT AUGUST YOU ISSUE BEFORE YOU YOU'RE ADOPTING YOUR TAX RATE, WE'D HAVE NEW TAXABLE VALUES AT THAT POINT FOLLOWED BY A $100 MILLION BOND ISSUE IN 24, 70 MILLION IN 2027.
AND THE REMAINING AUTHORIZATION IN 2030 OPTION TWO IS SIMPLY SLOWING THAT DOWN.
IF EITHER TAXABLE VALUES AREN'T INCREASING AT AS QUICK OF A RATE AS PROJECTED, YOU SLOW THOSE BOND ISSUANCES DOWN EITHER BY DELAYING THEM OR BY ISSUING SMALLER AMOUNTS OF BONDS IN THOSE YEARS.
SO OPTION TWO CONSIDERS ISSUING $40 MILLION IN 2023, $80 MILLION INSTEAD OF THE $100 MILLION IN 2024, $80 MILLION IN 2027 AND 79 MILLION, UH, THAT REMAINING BALANCED BY 2030 ALL WHILE ACHIEVING THAT ROLE, THAT GOAL, WHICH IS KEEPING THE TOTAL TAX RATE BELOW 59 CENTS.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN'T ACHIEVE THIS FULL, UH, BONDING, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THAT DECADE AND REMAINING WITHIN THAT 59 CENT CALL AN INFORMAL GOAL, UH, IN THE FUTURE RATE, UH, THERE'LL BE MONEY REMAINING TO BE AUTHORIZED PERHAPS, OR AUTHORIZED, BUT ISSUED AFTER 2030, BUT CERTAINLY BEFORE 2032, WHEN THAT, UH, AUTHORIZATION FROM THE VOTERS WOULD EXPIRE PER THE CHARTER.
I HAVE, WE TRIED TO, UH, ESTIMATE INTEREST RATES ON THE HIGHER SIDE BETWEEN 4.75 AND 5% IN TODAY'S MARKET.
WE'RE PROBABLY JUST BELOW 4%, UH, ON THESE FINANCINGS.
UH, AND AGAIN, UH, THIS TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
SO WITH THAT, WELL, WE CAN CERTAINLY GO THROUGH AND REVISE, UH, THE, THE, THE BONDING TO, TO REFLECT, UH, THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING.
UH, BUT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH PROCEEDING WITH THAT UNDERLYING, UH, ANALYSIS.
AND WE'LL CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO, TO UPDATE THIS WITH
UH, AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT NEXT YEAR, FOR INSTANCE, THE ASSUMING THE TAXABLE VALUE INCREASES BY 5% WELL, WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING WELL NORTH OF THAT EVERY YEAR IN THE EARLY YEARS THAT WE GET BIGGER GROWTH THAN WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING WITHIN THIS ANALYSIS HELPS ALL SUBSEQUENT YEARS, IF WE GET 15% GROWTH NEXT YEAR, THAT CREATES THAT FUTURE CAPACITY.
UH, BUT CERTAINLY NO ONE HAS A CRYSTAL BALL TO KNOW WHERE THE ECONOMY, UH, WILL GO FROM HERE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE, AS CONSERVATIVE AS POSSIBLE IS CERTAINLY ARE GOING FORWARD TO THE VOTERS IN YOUR COMMUNICATIONS AND MAKING A, AN INFORMAL PROMISE AS IT WERE.
SO WE WANT TO, UH, BE AS CONSERVATIVE AS, AS WE CAN.
SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO VOTES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN HERE BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY OUTLINED THE DIRECTION.
UM, IT SEEMS BASICALLY WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, W THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN ON, YOU'RE PROPOSING TO CONTINUE, AND WE HAVE A SENSE OF THE SCHEDULE, AND A LOT OF THIS SCHEDULE DEPEND ON THE GROWTH, AND WE CAN SPEED IT UP.
I DO THINK THAT IT'S A, IT'S AN INTERESTING STORY.
THE NUMBER IS SO MUCH HIGHER THAT WE'RE ASKING THE VOTERS TO APPROVE.
AND YET THE TAX RATE IMPACT IS ONE THIRD OF WHAT IT WAS WHEN WE IN 2013, WHEN WE ASKED THEM.
SO AS FAR AS WHICH GROUP OF PEOPLE, UH, WERE, UH, SPENDING THE MONEY, UH, MORE OUT OF CONTROL, YEAH.
THE GROUP BEHIND THE 2013 BOND COULD IT, YOU COULD MAKE THAT ARGUMENT, UH, THOSE THAT SUPPORTED IT BACK THEN.
SO, UH, BUT EITHER WAY, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH WOULD BE THAT IN 2013, WE PROPOSED
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A VERY SIMILAR SCHEDULE AND THE ACTUAL TAX RATE IN IMPACT WAS FOUR TO FIVE PER CENT.UH, SO THAT IS, THAT IS GOOD FORM OF EDUCATION TO HELP I THINK, GET VOTERS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.
UH, AND THEN ALSO THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SLOW IT DOWN DEPENDING ON MARKET ANALYSIS AND, UH, KEEPING TAX RATE UNDER 60 CENTS, I THINK STILL GOOD.
SO, AND CERTAINLY THE, THE LOGISTICS OF HOW YOU'RE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THESE PROJECTS IS GOING TO PLAY INTO, UH, HOW THE BONDS ARE ROLLED OUT.
THERE'S IRS LIMITATIONS, UH, THAT WANT TO SEE THE CITY WHEN YOU BORROW MONEY TO SPEND IT WITHIN LARGELY SPEND IT WITHIN THREE YEARS.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO GO OUT, EVEN IF WE COULD BORROW $299 MILLION, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A FEASIBLE WAY TO CONSTRUCT THAT MUCH PROJECT.
SO WE WOULDN'T BE ADVISING TO PROCEED WITH THAT MUCH.
SO THAT'S THERE, THERE'S LOTS OF FACETS TO THIS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION FROM THE CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING SIDE, AND ALSO THE FINANCING SIDE.
WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO BORROW THE, OR TO ISSUE THE 40 MILLION IN 2023 WITH THE NOVEMBER, 2022 ELECTION.
I THINK IT WOULD BE PROBABLY DIFFICULT FOR US TO BORROW MUCH OF ANYTHING, UH, IN THAT VERY FIRST YEAR, BUT 40 MILLION IS A LOT.
I MEAN, THAT'S SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OF THE ROADS PROJECTS READY IN THAT FIRST YEAR.
IT ALL BE DESIGNED AND ENGINEERING.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF EXCITING THE 40 AND THE A HUNDRED, EVEN IF WE GET BEHIND AND IT'S 20 TO 24, 20, 25, MAYBE THAT IT GROWS, BUT WE ARE, IF THE VOTERS APPROVE, WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIGHT MULTIPLE PROJECTS AND REALLY, AND REALLY SEE SOME ACTION HERE WITHIN JUST A FEW YEARS TIME.
SO THAT'D BE PRETTY EXCITING TO ME, PERVEZ, IF I LEFT ANYTHING OUT THAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO COVER THAT I'M NOT HAVING CONSIDERED.
ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO DISCUSS? I THINK WE GOT IT.
WELL, I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO CONCLUDE THE WORKSHOP PORTION.
WE STILL HAVE, UH, WE STILL HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO IF THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO OTHER OBJECTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND DISMISS THE, OUR CONSULTANTS AND STAFF THAT ARE NOT A PART OF IT.
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENIENT TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME TO SEEM NECESSARY.
DURING THIS MEETING CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENIENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5 50, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING TOPICS, A POSSIBLE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL ESTATE PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.07, TWO DOWNTOWN PROPERTY ACQUISITION PERSONNEL MATTERS PURSUANT TO SECTION 51.07 FOR APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER.
WE WERE AN EXACT, ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO A TIME SEVEN, TEN, SEVENTEEN AM.
I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NOW I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN EARNEST MONEY CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 10, UH, CENTER STREET IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000 AND AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NEEDED TO CLOSE ON THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UM, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ALSO LIKE TO MOTION TO PLACE, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. SCOTT SELLERS ON PAID ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE PENDING INVESTIGATION OF INTERNAL COMPLAINT INTO A POINT JERRY HENDRIX AS ACTING CITY MANAGER.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY, UH, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.