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[1. Call Meeting To Order]
EVENING.I'D LIKE TO CALL US REGULARLY SCHEDULED PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING TO ORDER.
[3. Minutes]
THREE, THREE, A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES FOR AUGUST 9TH, 2022.IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER TIMMINS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CHASE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[4. Citizen Comments]
FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ARE WELCOME TO WE ASK THAT YOU, UM, COME UP TO THE FRONT.DO YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? YOU THOUGHT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND YOU LIMIT YOUR TIME TO THREE MINUTES.
DOES ANYONE WHO LIKE SPEAK DURING CITIZEN COMMENTS? YOU MAY COME UP NOW SEEING NONE.
I WILL CLOSE TO THIS AND COMMENTS.
CITIZEN COMMENTS IS NOW CLOSED.
[5. Consent]
ITEM, FIVE CONSENT.WE HAVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, A THROUGH C MR. CHAIR.
MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS A THROUGH C.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SHAY SECOND AND BY VICE CHAIR MCCALL.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[C. Consider a request to allow overhead electric lines to provide power for certain portions of the Kyle Wastewater Treatment Plant (Section 50-1 Utilities to be installed underground). ]
CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION.UM, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS, STAFF HAS REQUESTED THAT WE MOVE SIX C UP TO THE BEGINNING.
I'M GONNA CALL THAT ONE FIRST, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTIONS.
ITEM NUMBER SIX, C CONSIDER REQUEST TO ALLOW OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINES TO, UH, PROVIDE POWER FOR CERTAIN PORTIONS OF KYLE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT SECTION 50 DASH ONE UTILITIES TO BE INSTALLED UNDERGROUND.
UM, YES, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS TIM SANFORD TREATMENT OPERATIONS MANAGER.
WELL PUT CITY OF CARL POET WORKS IS ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO BE MADE TO ORDINANCE 1 0 9 5 FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY TO HAVE OVERHEAD POWER LINES INSTALLED AT THAT LOCATION.
UH, AS YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN IN THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED SECTION, THAT IS A PROPOSED OVERHEAD LINE AND THEN THE BURGUNDY KIND OF RED LINE GOING OFF INTO THE TREATMENT FACILITY.
AND ACTUALLY I CAN DO THIS HERE.
SO IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THOSE PROPOSED UNDERGROUND LINES, UH, THE REASON WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS EXCEPTION IS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, THEY COST VERSUS OUR UNDERGROUND VERSUS OVERHEAD.
WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY $350,000 TO RUN THIS LINE UNDERGROUND, UH, FOR THE COST TO DO THIS OVERHEAD LINE IS AROUND $50,000.
THAT'S THE COST OF THE CITY, UH, THAT WAS NOT ESTABLISHED IN THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT.
IT WAS LATER EDITED LATER TIME.
SO WE'RE HANDLING US TO A CHANGE ORDER.
UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH RUNNING WIRES, UNDERGROUND, SOME MAINTENANCE ISSUES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO AVOID.
UM, THIRD, THE LENGTH OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE, UH, COULD POTENTIALLY CAUSE SOMETHING THAT'S ESSENTIAL TO OUR OPERATIONS TO GO DOWN AND BE DOWN FOR SOME TIME, IF WE HAD TO MAKE REPAIRS TO UNDERGROUND LINES.
UM, I'VE GOT SEVERAL OTHER SLIDES HERE JUST TO TRY TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE SURROUNDING AREA DOES LOOK LIKE.
THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW AREAS ARE EXISTING OVERHEAD LINES THAT ARE IN THE AREA THE MOST DO THIS TO MAKE SURE THIS THERE AREA AREAS, WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO HAVE OVERHEAD LINES BEING INSTALLED.
AND THEN AGAIN, THIS IS THIS AREA HERE IS THE, WHAT WILL BE, UH, UNDERGROUND MINES AND OUR PROPOSAL.
AND AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER OVERVIEW OF THE SITE ITSELF.
THE HIGHLIGHTED PORTIONS ARE BASINS AND CLARIFIERS THAT ARE FOR FUTURE EXPANSIONS, JUST SO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SITE IS TO LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, AT ITS FULL EXPANDED POINT IN OUR CURRENT PROJECTED PLANS.
SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
YOU SAID THAT THE EXISTING OVERHEAD POWER LINES, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON PLEASE? SORRY.
UH, THERE'S EXISTING POWER LINES, OVERHEAD POWER LINES ALONG THE FRONT EDGE OF THAT PROPERTY.
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MAP OR THIS IS THE BEST MAP TO SHOW TO REPRESENT THAT.SO THIS JUST YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED SECTION, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL CAN SEE THAT ALL ALONG HERE.
THIS IS ALL CURRENTLY OVERHEAD POWER LINES.
UH, THIS SUBDIVISION RIGHT HERE, THIS BEING WATERLOO SUBDIVISION, RIGHT? THAT, THAT KIND OF CHANGES MY VIEW ON THIS BECAUSE INITIALLY WHEN I READ THIS AND SAW THAT THE COMMENT WAS THAT IT DIDN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE AESTHETICS.
AND I WOULD, I DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE OVERHEAD POWER LINES ABSOLUTELY DO AS OPPOSED TO UNDERGROUND TO GROUND.
HOWEVER, IF, AND, AND I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THROWING SOMETHING UP THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE PREVIOUSLY, BUT IF THERE ARE POWER LINES THERE THAT KIND OF CHANGES THE FRONT FOR ME, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY IF, IF THERE WEREN'T, I WAS PLANNING TO OPPOSE THIS, BUT AS IN FACT THAT THEY WERE ALREADY THERE, AND THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION AND THAT KIND OF MODIFIES OPINION CONSIDERABLY, THANK YOU.
WHAT'S THE LINEAR FEET FOR THE PROPOSED.
SO THE PROPOSED RYAN, WHICH IS NEVER GOOD.
UH, THIS SECTION HERE JUST FOR OVERHEAD POWER LINES, I BELIEVE IT'S APPROXIMATELY 770 FEET.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS UNDERLINE UNDERGROUND MINE IS.
I DON'T KNOW THE APPROXIMATE FOOTAGE ON THIS UNDERGROUND BEHIND THAT RUNS FROM HERE TO THE DE-WATER FACILITY.
UM, ACTUALLY I DO KNOW IT'S 305 FEET, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THIS EXHIBIT HERE.
SO ON YOUR, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG, BIG COST DIFFERENCE HERE.
UM, I DON'T THINK I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THE RUN RUN LENGTH.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY.
IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? THANK YOU.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER MARTHA SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? OKAY, GREAT.
UM, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
[A. Consider a request to construct retail buildings consisting of 7,506sq. ft. (Lot 4A) and 7,034sq. ft. (Lot 5A) located at 5120 S FM 1626 at the southwest corner of FM 1626 and Marketplace Ave. within the I-35 zoning overlay district. (Kyle Crossing Multi-Tenant Retail Buildings Lot 4A & Lot 5A - Conditional Use Permit - CUP-22-0061)
SO U P DASH TWO TWO DASH 0 0 6 1.
UM, MS. SHARP, KATELYN SHARP CITY PLANNER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, AND JUST TO START OUT, WE JUST HAD A LITTLE ERROR IN THAT, UM, AND IT IS NOT WITHIN THE
UM, SO THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR BUILDING ELEVATIONS WITHIN THE, UM, CAL MARKETPLACE DEVELOPMENT IS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF 1626 AND MARKETPLACE AVENUE.
THEY HAVE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CONSTRUCT WITH PRIMARY.
MY MATERIALS CONSISTING PRIMARILY OF BRICK VENEER, CEMENT, PLASTER, WOOD, WOOD PANELING, AND SOME OTHER APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES.
UM, AND SO THIS ONE ON THE SCREEN SHOULD BE FOUR LOT FOR A, UM, THE FRONT ON THIS ONE IS MOSTLY, I BELIEVE THE BRICK VENEER AND CEMENT PLASTER.
UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE SOME WOOD SIDING DETAILS, UM, AND MORE WOOD SIDING ON THE BACK.
UM, AND THE FRONT OF THESE WILL BE FACING, UM, 1626 AND THEN THIS ONE IS FOR LOT FIVE, A, THIS ONE IS PRIMARILY THE CEMENT PLASTER AND WOOD SIDING ON THE FRONT.
UM, WITH SOME MORE ARCHITECTURAL
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FEATURES ON THE SIDES AND IN THE BACK, THIS ONE WILL ALSO BE FACING FM 16, 26 UM, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THESE FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IS IN PLACE AND THEY DO COMPLY WITH THE AGREEMENT AND WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.
MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX A SECOND.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SHAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MATA.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[B.
Consider a request to develop a 4.516-acre tract and construct an approximately 6,400 square feet convenience store with gasoline pumps for property located within the I-35 overlay district. (TXB Kyle C-Store - Conditional Use Permit - CUP-22-0058)
Following the Planning & Zoning Commission's direction to amend the elevations, the applicant has resubmitted the elevations. The updated design simply has the outdoor sitting area on the south side of the building, with the elevation originally facing E FM 150 now on the north side of the building.
]SIX B CONSIDER REQUEST TO DEVELOP A, UM, 4.516 ACRE TRACT AND CONSTRUCT APPROXIMATELY 6,400 SQUARE FEET CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE PUMPS, UH, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THEWE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED THIS ONE TO THE COMMISSION, UM, BACK IN JULY AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ON ADDING MORE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO THE SIDE FACING FM.
ONE 50 STAFF HAS, UM, DISCUSSED BACK AND FORTH WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND THEY HAD DECIDED TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY MIRROR AND FLIP THE BUILDING SO THAT THE, UM, COVERED PATIO AND THE RAINWATER COLLECTION WILL BE ON THE SIDE FACING FM ONE 50.
UM, SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY JUST, UM, FLIPPED AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
UM, AND SO STAFF FEELS THAT THIS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSES, UM, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? THANK YOU.
IT'S GOING TO MOVE BY COMMISSIONER MARTHA.
IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TIMMINS? UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YES, SIR.
UM, I GUESS SO IT WAS A PRETTY SIMPLE FLIP AROUND, SO I'M GLAD THEY CAME BACK TO THE TABLE WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE SAME, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, DEFINITELY A LOT CHEAPER THAN REDESIGNING THAT WHOLE SIDE.
UM, I, I W I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM ONE 50.
AND, UM, I KNOW THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT KEEPING THE SEATING ON THE OTHER SIDE TO PROTECT IT FROM, FROM THE STREET, BUT I STILL DO THINK THIS IS A, THIS IS A POSITIVE MOVE FORWARD, UH, COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAD THE LAST TIME.
SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE.
[D.
Consider an amendment to Sec. 53-1138, Sec. 53-1139, & Sec. 53-1140 for the purposes of updating the Nonconforming Uses & Structures ordinance in the City of Kyle, Hays County, Texas.
- Public Hearing
- Recommendation to City Council
AND SECTION FIVE, THREE DASH 1, 1 4 0.
FOR PURPOSES OF UPDATING THE NON-CONFORMING USE AND STRUCTURE ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF KYLE HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS, THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU MAY COME UP.
NOW WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR TIME TO THREE MINUTES.
YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
UH, MR. ATKINSON, UH, WELL, I CAN SEND INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD, UH, BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE, UM, A COMPLETE, UH, I CAN'T TALK, I COMPLETE A CODE REWRITE OF OUR LEGAL NONCONFORMITY CODE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT ONE, THAT'S IN, UM, THESE THREE SECTIONS, UM, IT'S PRETTY VAGUE.
IT'S JUST ESSENTIALLY THROWN IN THERE TO SAY THAT WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR THIS.
AND IF ANY SITUATIONS COME UP, YOU DEAL WITH THEM AS BEST AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN, UH, IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO, THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF, UM, OR EVEN CLOSER TO A YEAR NOW.
THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF, UH, UH, SITUATIONS FROM A LEGAL NONCONFORMITY STANDPOINT THAT, UM, HAD CONCERNS CITY COUNCIL, AND THEY GAVE US DIRECTION TO, UH, WORK WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM TO COMPLETELY, UM, UPDATE IN FULLY REPLACE OUR LEGAL NONCONFORMITY CODE.
AND THIS IS THE RESULT OF THAT.
THIS IS CODE COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW AND ALL THE CASE LAW THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE OUR LEGAL NONCONFORMITY
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SECTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE IN 2003.AND SO, UM, IT COMPLETELY REFLECTS THAT AND PROVIDES A PROCESS FOR US TO ESTABLISH THEM IN A, IN A, AN OFFICIAL MANNER IF SOMEONE COMES IN TO APPLY SO THEY CAN KEEP PRESERVING THAT IT ALSO, UM, PROVIDES SIGNIFICANTLY ROBUST PROTECTIONS FOR OUR RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE LEGAL NONCONFORMITIES.
UM, AS PART OF THE, UM, LEGAL NIGHT AS PART OF OUR JOB IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, WE FREQUENTLY HAVE TO WORK WITH, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS TO, FOR THEM TO BRING THEIR, THEIR PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE.
AND WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, WHEN IT'S COMMERCIAL, UH, IT'S USUALLY PRETTY EASY TO WORK WITH THEM ON AND THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, THEY'RE THERE TO MAKE A PROFIT AND EVERYTHING.
SO THEY GO AND BRING IT UP TO CODE.
THEY WANT US TO LOOK NICE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO RESIDENTIAL, WE HAVE TO BE ESPECIALLY CAREFUL, UH, BECAUSE THOSE ARE PEOPLE'S HOMES.
AND SO, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG FOCUSES THAT CITY COUNCIL WANTED US TO FOCUS ON.
WHEN WE EVER, WE ARE DRAFTING THIS OR THE LEGAL DID A BULK OF THE WORK, AND WE JUST LOOKED AT IT, WE LOOKED IT OVER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MADE SENSE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO THERE, THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF EXCEPTIONS FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT AND BUILT INTO THIS.
UM, THIS IS THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, BE SURE TO ASK, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
NO, I WAS, I WAS APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR GUYS' WORK ON THIS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SECOND AND BY COMMISSIONER TIMMINS.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[E.
Consider an amendment to Sec. 11-162, Sec. 11-175, Sec. 176, & Sec. 11-177 for the purposes of updating the food truck ordinance in the City of Kyle, Hays County, Texas.
- Public Hearing
- Recommendation to City Council
FOR THE PURPOSE OF UPDATING THE FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS, THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AS WELL.
THERE'S ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE OF ME MAY COME UP.
NOW WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR TIME TO THREE MINUTES THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND THAT YOU, UM, FILL OUT A COMMENT FORM.
SEEING NONE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC FORUM, UH, NEXT MR. ATKINSON.
AND IF WE DO DECIDE TO HAVE SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION ON THIS, I WILL SAY, UM, I PROBABLY PROVIDED SOME DIRECTION TO KAYLA, BUT SHE ACTUALLY CARRIED THE BULK OF THIS, OF THIS ORDINANCE, THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN TO.
SO IT MAY BE THAT SHE CAN ACTUALLY EXPLAIN THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN ME IN THIS CASE.
SO, UM, BUT YES, UH, WELL, I CAN SEND TO INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS ALSO DIRECTED, UM, AS PART OF, UM, THE COUNT CITY COUNCILS VISIONING PROCESS THEY DID EARLIER THIS YEAR, THEY WANTED TO FULLY UPDATE OUR FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BEING OVERLY BURDENSOME ON OUR, UH, ON A FOOD TRUCK OPERATORS THAT WE, THAT LIKE TO COME TO KYLE.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT CURRENTLY STANDS IS LIKE FALLS INTO TWO CAMPS.
SO YOU HAVE MOBILE FOOD VENDORS AND, UM, WELL ACTUALLY IT'S THREE CAMPS, MOBILE FOOD VENDORS, WHICH IS FOUR HOURS OR LESS ONSITE.
AND YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FOR LIKE, IF YOU'RE STOPPING AT A HOA PARK TO SELL, UM, SOME KIND OF ICE OR WHATEVER, UM, BETWEEN FOUR HOURS IN 12 MONTHS, WHICH IS A TEMPORARY FOOD VENDOR WHERE YOU CAN BE ON SITE FOR, UM, LIKE JUST DOWN HERE AT THE END OF THE BLOCK.
UM, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE RESTROOMS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO THAT.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE FOOD COURT ALLOWANCES WHERE YOU PUT IN THE PERMIT INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE EASIEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT IS IT'S A, IT'S AN RV PARK FOR FOOD TRUCKS.
SO YOU GOT YOUR SLOT TO GO IN THERE, YOU PARK IN THERE, UH, YOU HOOK UP TO ELECTRICAL AND YOU HAVE SOME PARKING SPACES DEDICATED FOR EACH SLOT.
THERE YOU HAVE A PERMANENT, UH, RESTROOM FACILITY, MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE OUTDOOR STAGE OR WHATEVER, SO EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY IT, UH, FROM A MASSING PERSPECTIVE IN A FOOD TRUCK DENSITY.
SO YOU HAVE YOUR CHOICES, UH, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE, THESE AMENDMENTS, WE'VE ACTUALLY PAIRED IT DOWN TO TWO.
SO IT'S 12 MONTHS OR LESS, OR, OR FOOD TRUCKS, THE FOOD COURTS, EXCUSE ME.
AND, UM, THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE'VE CHANGED ABOUT IT ARE RELATED TO, UM, THE REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING.
WE WANT IT TO BE MORE EQUITABLE AS FOOD TRUCKS GENERALLY.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S A STEP INTO A MORE PERMANENT, UM, UH, BRICK AND MORTAR KIND OF STORE LATER ON DOWN THE LINE.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR IS INTERESTED IN, BUT FOOD TRUCKS ARE, THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY LESS EXPENSE
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TO DEVELOP THAN SAY A CHICK-FIL-A OR A CHILI'S OR WHATEVER.SO, UM, AND PARKING IS AN EXPENSE THAT IS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS EQUITABLE IN THAT STANDPOINT, UM, INCREASED FLEXIBILITY RELATING TO WHERE A FOOD TRUCK MAY BE PLACED ON A PARCEL.
UH, RIGHT NOW, FOR INSTANCE, WE REQUIRE, UM, HE CAN'T BE ANY CLOSER THAN 50 FEET TO WHAT'S THE CARRIAGE WAY OF A STREET, THE, THE LANE FOR TRAFFIC, BUT IN SOME CASES THAT'S NOT EVEN A THING LIKE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL THE FOOD TRUCK UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE, EVEN WHETHER YOU WANT TO FACE INTO IT, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE WINDOW FACING IT OR FACING OUT ONTO THE, ONTO THE SIDEWALK, ASSUMING THERE'S SUFFICIENT SIDEWALK.
AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR REVIEW AS WELL.
UM, ALSO HOW CLOSE YOU CAN SPACE FOOD TRUCKS, UH, HOW LONG THEY CAN BE IN ONE LOCATION PROVIDED THERE'S SUFFICIENT REVIEW FROM STAFF AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND, UM, LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN ALSO AN INCREASED NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS ALLOWED IN A FOOD TRUCK COURT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT METRIC OFFHAND, BUT IT'S BETWEEN 150 AND 300 FEET SPACING BETWEEN THREE TRUCKS IN A FOOD TRUCK COURT, WHICH IS COMPLETELY DESIGNED WITH ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE IT DOESN'T NEED THAT.
AND SO WE REDUCED IT DOWN TO ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 2000 SQUARE FEET, UH, PER FOOD TRUCK, THE SPACE THAT THEY NEED, WHICH INCLUDES PARKING A COUPLE SPACES OR A COUPLE OF, UM, UM, PICNIC TABLES AND WHAT HAVE YOU, SO THAT ALL THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN FIT IT IN THERE.
SO WITH THAT, AND THE WHOLE GOAL IS JUST TO MAKE IT BETTER, MAKE IT TO FUNCTION BETTER.
UH, WE RECOMMEND THAT Y'ALL VOTE TO APPROVE IT.
DID I MISS ANYTHING? YES, SIR.
SO YOU MENTIONED MORE ROBUST FIRE REQUIREMENTS, IS THAT OUTSIDE OF THIS ORDINANCE, BECAUSE I'M SEEING A, A PARAGRAPH ABOUT SAFETY, AND IT'S JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW THE FIRE MARSHALL WILL BE ABLE TO CODE, ET CETERA MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL, BUT THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS LISTED IN HERE.
1,175 H IF YOU, IS THAT WHAT IT IS? UH, YEAH, H RELATED TO BE ONE D 4 11, 1 76 SO IN SECTION 11 DASH 1 76, IT DISCUSSES THE ACCEPTABLE LOCATIONS FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND, UM, 20 FEET FROM ANY PERMANENT STRUCTURE, UM, MINIMUM OF 10 FEET BETWEEN EACH FOOD TRUCK PAD SITE.
SO IT FALLS UNDER THAT SECTION.
I REMEMBER US HAVING A DISCUSSION IN THE PAST ABOUT THAT, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS, WAS STICKING IN THERE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
UM, YOU, THE OTHER PART OF IT, THE, THE NON FOOD COURT, UM, THE MOBILE VERSION, YOU, YOU SAID YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER.
SO IS IT, IS IT THAT, THAT, BECAUSE THE ONE THAT WAS LESS THAN FOUR HOURS DID NOT REQUIRE RESTROOM FACILITIES, AND SUSAN ASKED ANYONE LESS THAN 12 MONTHS DOESN'T REQUIRE RESTROOM FACILITIES, THEY STILL DO, OR THEY STILL WILL, BUT, UM, THERE'S PREDICTS OR CIRCUMSTANCES.
STAFF CAN WAIVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
UM, IF IT'S FOUND APPLICABLE, UH, FOUND NECESSARY, UM, THE REASON WHY WE KIND OF COMBINED THE FOUR HOURS, THOSE TWO ITEMS FOR 12 MONTHS, FROM A PERMITTING STANDPOINT, THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY THE SAME.
IT'S JUST A F WE CAN PROVIDE, UM, PUT CONDITIONS ON THE APPROVAL, THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS OF THIS NEW ORDINANCE, MAYBE IT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, I REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE THERE MORE THAN SIX HOURS.
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KIND OF THING, SO WE CAN PUT CONDITIONS ON IT AS APPROPRIATE.AND THEN FOR THE ACTUAL COURT, UM, THE MOBILE, WHAT MOBILE COURT, UM, WHAT ZONING IS THAT IN? UH, THE, THAT PART DIDN'T CHANGE.
IT'S STILL R S
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A HOLD OVER FROM THE EXISTING ONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? YES, SIR.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX E.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SHAY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MARTHA.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[7. General Discussion]
GENERAL DISCUSSION, SEVEN, EIGHT DISCUSSION ONLY REGARDING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO SAY IT, BUT THAT SOME OF THESE ITEMS WE DISCUSSED A WHILE AGO, AND THEN ONE OF THEM WAS THE RESTROOM IN DOWNTOWN THAT SORT OF, HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED ANY FURTHER, HAVING A RESTROOM? LIKE IF YOU WERE AT THE PARK, YOU'D BE ABLE TO ACCESS.IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED INTERNALLY, UM, WITH THE 1 0 4 SOUTH BURLESON PROJECT THAT'S HAPPENING.
THAT'S IN THE VERY BEGINNING OF DESIGN STAGE, UM, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SENIOR CENTER.
UM, THEY ARE THE ARCHITECTS, BTK ARCHITECTS THAT THEY'RE VERY AWARE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
THAT THE CURRENT IDEA IS TO HAVE A, OH, I W I WOULDN'T CALL IT A SALE, BUT A, UH, A PASS THROUGH AT THE GROUND LEVEL TO GET TO THE BACK REAR YARD WHERE THERE MAYBE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME GARDENS OR WHATEVER.
SO THAT'S THE RESOLUTION ON THAT POTENTIALLY.
THAT WE'RE PRETTY GUNG-HO ABOUT.
UM, UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, FROM THE SOLUTION ON A CIP PERSPECTIVE SPECIFICALLY, WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION AT THIS TIME.
UH, WE WILL COORDINATE IN RELATING TO FOOD TRUCKS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE, UH, PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE RESTROOMS AS WELL.
OCCASIONALLY THEY DON'T NEED THEM.
UM, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY, THEY, THEY WILL.
SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? UM, YES, I THINK SO.
UM, IT JUST, I WANTED TO JUST KEEP BRINGING IT UP AS MUCH AS I CAN THAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UH, ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ON FUTURE AGENDAS? OKAY.
[8. Staff Report]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, STAFF REPORT EIGHT EIGHT STAFF REPORT BY WILLIAM ATKINSON, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.SO WE HAVE, UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE EVERYBODY REGISTERED WHO WANTED TO GO TO THE, UH, STATE CONFERENCE, UM, IN OCTOBER FOR APA IN EL PASO, UM, UH, 18TH THROUGH THE 22ND, I BELIEVE, UM, IS WHEN WE'RE HEADING OUT THERE AND COMING BACK.
UM, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT A REGISTRATION NOTIFICATION, UM, TODAY, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T CHECKED YOUR EMAIL.
SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME MINOR, OR I SAY MINOR CODE AMENDMENTS, BUT WE WERE GOING TO BE BRINGING BACK THE, UH, AND THREE HERE AND IN RELATIVELY SHORT ORDER.
UM, I ALSO HAVE SOME IDEAS I NEED TO STILL VET IT THOUGH.
UH, AND AN ADMINISTRATION FOR US, A COUPLE OF OTHER ORDINANCES RELATED TO AID USE.
UM, AND THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO NOTICE THOSE APPROPRIATELY AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT AS THEIR CODE AMENDMENTS TO ZONING.
SO, UM, I'VE SENT THE, UH, CONTRACT FOR THE, UH, ACTING CITY MANAGER TO SIGN FOR OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR VIRGINITY TODAY.
UM, WE ARE ALREADY STARTING TO WORK WITH THEM, TRYING TO GET THEM DATA THAT THEY NEED AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THAT WILL BE STARTING AND KICKING OFF HERE AND IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO TOO.
SO I THINK THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAD TO COVER, SO, OH, UM, WE'LL BE, UM, WORKING TO PUT, UH, A VICE-CHAIR ELECTION AT, PROBABLY AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER ON THE, ON THE, UM, ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT ALSO KIND OF DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY COUNCIL MOVES ON THE SELECTING OF, UH, NEW APPOINTMENTS FOR THE, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO IT WOULD BE A CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR ELECTION.
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ITEM NUMBER NINE.I MOVE, WE ADJOURN HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.