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THE TIME IS 7:05 PM.AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WOULD ALL.
PLEASE RISE TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL WITH THE CITY SECRETARY POLICE CALL THE RULE HERE.
RIZZO PRESENT FLORES KALE HERE, BRADSHAW HERE, PARSLEY HERE.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
QUORUM NEXT STEP APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETINGS, AUGUST 16TH, 2022 SPECIAL, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, ACTUALLY THE REGULAR MEETING 16TH SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 22ND, 2022 AND SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FOR AUGUST 25TH, 2022.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBI SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO.
TIM RIZZO IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
UP CITIZEN COMMENTS PERIOD.AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO PLEASE DO.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY'S SECRETARY.
I'VE QUITE A FEW REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
FIRST UP, MR. STEVEN CO DEAR MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS STEVEN COOK MEMBER OF THE KYLE VFW MASON LODGE OF MANY ORGANIZATIONS.
AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF INSTALLING A FLAG RETIREMENT AREA IN THE NEW HEROES MEMORIAL PARK.
I KNOW THIS WAS NOT DISCUSSED IN THE INITIAL PHASES, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS MUCH NEEDED FOR OUR TOWN.
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THIS FLAG CON GONZALEZ AND JEFFREY IS HOLDING.
NOW, WE DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS FLAG, BUT WE DO KNOW IT'S SEEN BETTER DAYS.
WE DO NOT KNOW IF IT FLEW AT A VETERAN'S HOUSE, A POLICE OR FIREFIGHTERS OR ANY FIRST RESPONDER'S HOUSE.
WE DO NOT KNOW IF IT FLEW OVER A LOCAL CEMETERY.
I THINK THE MAJORITY OF US WOULD SAY, REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT WAS FLOWN, IT DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE THROWN IN THE TRASH, STUCK IN A CLOSET FOR YEARS, STEPPED ON OR BURNED.
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS IT WAS DROPPED OFF AT THE VFW FOR PROPER RETIREMENT.
NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE, THIS OTHER FLAG.
NOW THIS FLAG IS MUCH BIGGER IN COMPARISON, BUT IMAGINE IT ABOUT 15 TO 20 TIMES BIGGER.
THIS IS THE SIZE OF THE FLAG THAT WILL BE FLOWN OVER THE HERO'S MEMORIAL.
ONCE THE NEW FLAG AT THE PARK IS INSTALLED, THE NEW FLAG WILL BE FLYING 65 FEET IN THE AIR, OVER THE MEMORIAL FOR OUR VETERANS FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR HEROES OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS NEW FLAG WILL BE ABLE TO SEEM FROM FAR AWAY AND WILL FLY PROUDLY TILL ITS DAY WILL COME.
AND IT WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED LIKE THIS ONE HERE.
I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE ONCE TAKEN DOWN IT TWO WILL NEED A PROPER RETIREMENT.
WHAT A BETTER PLACE TO RETIRE, RETIRE THAN THE SITE.
IT HAD BEEN SO PROUDLY FLYING OVER AND REPRESENTING THE SITE CAN BE A MULTIPLE USE RETIREMENT AREA FOR OUR VETERANS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
THERE ARE MANY FLAGS WITH MANY COLORS.
WE AT THE VFW KNOW OUR TIME IS SOON TO COME TO AN END AT OUR BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.
WE HAVE SERVED THIS CITY FROM INITIAL START FOR OVER 15 YEARS AND HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH ALL THE CITY.
THE SIMPLE FACT IS WE'VE OUTGROWN THE FACILITY MANY YEARS AGO.
COMRADE BROTHER, PETE CREW GOT US TO THE LOCATION ARE TRULY BLESSED TO BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, BUT OUR FUTURE IN THE CITY AND LOCATION IS UNDETERMINED AT THIS TIME.
I, MY COMRADES AND FELLOW FIRST RESPONDERS STAND HERE TODAY BEFORE
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YOU IN SUPPORT OF A PERMANENT LOCATION TO BE INSTALLED AT THE HERO'S MEMORIAL PARK.WE STAND HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT JUST WANTED TO, UH, TALK AGAIN ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING TRAFFIC ISSUES FOR LAYMAN ROAD AND BUNTON CREEK AND ALSO D ROAD AND BUNTON CREEK.
AND THAT WE NEED A RESOLVE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S CAUSING A LOT OF PAIN AND HEADACHES AND DIFFICULTY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO COME THROUGH AND ALSO COULD BE A HAZARD AND, AND SAFETY ISSUE FOR PEOPLE WALKING ALONG THAT ROAD.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GET STOP LIGHTS INSTALLED AT THE BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS THAT ARE TIMED TO ALLOW THE MAIN TRAFFIC TO GO THROUGH.
AND WE THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THE, THE ROAD CHANGES AND THE ROAD BOND COMES THROUGH.
THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE TO SAY, BUT THANK YOU.
UH, NEXT UP, ALEX, A, A BODY MR. MAYOR, DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, I OWN THE TWO PROPERTIES, UH, ON NORTH OF, UH, PLANT CREEK DEVELOPERS.
UM, AND I HAD COUPLE OF CONCERN, WHICH I RELATED TO SEE THE LAST WEEK, I GUESS, AND THEY MADE SOME RECOMMENDATION FOR SECTION 8.1, WHICH, UH, I THINK IT'S NUMBER 34 FOR TONIGHT, UH, IN AGENDA.
UM, AND THEN OTHER CONCERN ABOUT SECTION 13.3, UH, FIRST I SUPPORT JOE BROOKS IN WHATEVER HE DOES.
WE ARE NEIGHBORS AND WE BOTH WANNA DO THE SAME THING.
UH, THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN, UH, THE DECISION IS SUPPOSED TO BE MADE IN MY LAND.
AND, UH, I THINK IF THE APPLICATION IS JUST FOR PLUM CREEK DEVELOPERS AND NO OTHER OWNERS IS PART OF IT, SO EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ACTUALLY OWNED BY PLUM CREEK DEVELOPERS.
SO MAKING MY LAND A WETLAND AND DEDICATED AS A PARK IS SOMETHING PROBABLY WE, WE CAN DO TOGETHER LATER ON.
BUT AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE I WAS NOT PART OF IT, UH, I JUST CAN'T WAIT AND TALK TO THE CITY ABOUT IT.
I HAVE PUT THIS IN TWO SECTION, SECTION EIGHT, ONE TO BE MOVE, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY STAFF, UH, DATA MEETING ON THIS.
AND THEY WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE OFF AND THAT'S IN THE AGENDA.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UH, YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND THE LAST ONE, UH, 13.3, UH, I LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION BY THE COUNCIL TO, UH, INDICATE THAT ANYTHING PLUM CREEK DEVELOPER NEEDS TO DO HAS TO BE EITHER INVOLVED WITH THE OWNERS THAT THEY PARTICIPATE.
OTHERWISE THEY CANNOT MAKE DECISION FOR THE OWNERS.
NEXT STEP IS THAT CALL MAYOR MITCHELL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M A RESIDENT OF SILVERADO, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF THE STOP SIGNS AT THE INTERSECTION OF ONE 50 AND SILVERADO.
NOW I'M NOT, NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY TRAFFIC STUDY ON THE REMOVAL OF THE STOP SIGNS.
SO I CAN'T SAY WHETHER IT'S THE RIGHT DECISION OR THE WRONG DECISION.
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TRUST THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION.THE PROBLEM I HAD WITH THE DECISION AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS HAD WITH THE DECISION IS WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED ABOUT IT BEFORE THE DECISION WAS MADE.
AND THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE FOR YEARS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE SIGNS WERE TEMPORARY.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT TRAFFIC PATTERNS HAVE CHANGED, BUT FOR YEARS, THE RESIDENTS OF SILVERADO RELIED ON THOSE STOP SIGNS TO MAKE THAT INCREDIBLY BUSY INTERSECTION SAFER.
MOST OF US DIDN'T FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE BEING REMOVED UNTIL ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE REMOVAL ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE SILVERADO COMMUNITY.
THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF IT BEFORE THE DECISION ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
IT'S PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE FOR US.
WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE IN KYLE.
IT'S A VERY INCONVENIENT INTERSECTION.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S INCONVENIENT TO HAVE TO PASS THAT INTERSECTION TWICE A DAY, GOING TO AND FROM WORK.
BUT FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN SILVERADO, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
WE PULL OUT INTO THAT INTERSECTION WHEN WE'RE GOING TO, AND FROM OUR HOMES, NOT JUST DURING THE WEEK, BUT DURING WEEKENDS AND THE INTERSECTION JUST KEEPS GETTING BUSIER AND BUSIER.
SO NOTICE REALLY WOULD'VE BEEN APPRECIATED.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED, AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO MAKE THAT INTERSECTION SAFER.
I THOUGHT YOU BROUGHT UP A, A GOOD POINT WHEN THIS ISSUE WAS, WAS DISCUSSED.
WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW, IF THE ISSUE IS SAFETY, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE IN ADDITION TO STOP SIGNS, YOU CAN REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT.
MR. TOBIAS, YOU MENTIONED THAT, I THOUGHT THERE'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
YOU COULD PUT IN A DEDICATED TURN LANE.
THE PROBLEM IS NONE OF THAT WAS DONE BEFORE THE STOP SIGNS WERE REMOVED.
AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT TOMORROW THE CITY IS GOING TO MEET WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR SILVERADO.
AND ALL I WOULD ASK IS THAT AT THAT MEETING, SOMETHING IS DISCUSSED ABOUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT INTERSECTION SAFER.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE OTHER THAN THE STOP SIGNS, THAT ADDRESS ALL EVERYONE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND FINALLY, I WOULD ASK THAT IN, IN FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, IF A DECISION LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE MADE, JUST PLEASE PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S GOING TO BE MOST AFFECTED BY IT.
THAT WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
JENNIFER, DID YOU GET HIS INFORMATION? YOU HAVE HIS INFORMATION.
THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD, JAMES PLANT, I'M SPEAKING AS A, UH, KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION, VICE PRESIDENT, AND A COMMUNITY OUTREACH OFFICER FOR THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING A FEW THINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION ABOUT UPCOMING EVENTS THAT WE HAVE COMING ON FOR BLUE SANTA.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR THIRD ANNUAL BLUE SANTA FIVE, UM, DAMN FIVE MILE, UM, 5K AND FIVE MILE RUN.
I KNOW YOU GOT SOME RUNNERS UP HERE ON THE DI, SO WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO COME OUT FOR THAT.
THAT IS GONNA BE ON SEPTEMBER 24TH AT 7:30 AM AT FIVE MILE DAM PARK.
UM, JUST DOWN THE STREET, UM, YOU CAN RUN THE 5K OR THE FIVE MILE, UH, WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE INTO.
UM, I'LL DEFINITELY BE OUT THERE DIRECTING TRAFFIC, MAKING SURE YOU GUYS ARE SAFE OUT THERE.
UM, ALL PROCEEDS FROM THAT EVENT ARE GOING TO OUR BLUE SANTA PROGRAM.
WE'RE GOING TO, THIS IS OUR KICKOFF TO THE BLUE SANTA SEASON.
LAST YEAR, WE HELPED A LITTLE OVER 300, 300 KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND OVER 110 FAMILIES.
SO WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, WE WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE FAMILIES AND MORE CHILDREN TO HELP OUT.
ALSO OCTOBER 4TH IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
UM, WOULD LOVE TO INVITE YOU GUYS OUT, TO RIDE WITH OUR OFFICERS.
UM, IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO THAT NIGHT, WE WILL ALSO HAVE A DOWNTOWN PARTY.
UM, AT OLD HISTORIC CITY, KYLE, MARY HARTSON PARK, UM, WE WILL BE HAVING A, UM, EVENT DOWN THERE HOSTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, FROM SIX TO NINE.
BUT IF YOU CAN WRITE OUT IF YOU'LL EMAIL, UH, MYSELF OR CHIEF BARNETT, UM, I WILL DEFINITELY GET YOU SET UP WITH A RIDE OUT, UM, IN YOUR, IN YOUR DISTRICT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN ATTEND YOUR PARTIES.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, I BELIEVE 10 OR 12 PARTIES SIGNED UP, BUT WE ANTICIPATE TO DOUBLE THAT NUMBER.
AND OUR LAST THING, UM, WE WERE BRINGING BACK THE PANCAKE BREAKFAST FUNDRAISER FOR BLUE SANTA.
IT WAS SOMETHING WE DID FOR MANY YEARS AND IT KIND OF WENT AWAY, UM, PRECO OR YOU'RE ON COVID COVID TIME, BUT WE'RE BRINGING THAT BACK.
IT'S GONNA BE AT THE, UH, FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH HERE IN KYLE ON OCTOBER 15TH FROM 7:00 AM TO 11:00 AM.
SO WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME ON OUT AND SUPPORT THE CAUSE AND GET SOME, ALL YOU CAN EAT PANCAKES AND SAUSAGE.
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A GREAT TIME TO JUST HANG OUT AND, AND TALK TO, UH, TALK TO THE LOCALS TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY THAT COME OUT FOR THAT EVENT.WE'VE GOT NEXT UP, JULIE SNYDER.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, MAYOR PROAM AND COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS JULIE SNYDER AND I AM HERE TONIGHT TALKING, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE KYLE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON AGENDA ITEMS, 31 AND 32 IN REGARDS TO THE CTC RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, ACROSS THE WAY.
AND I WILL TELL YOU FOR, UH, DISCLOSURE, I HAVE NOT READ THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO, UH, JUST IN GENERAL, I BELIEVE THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE ALSO MET WITH MR. RAT AND MR. NELL.
AND YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM MR. NELL LATER ON TODAY.
ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT THE KYLE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS REALLY PROUD OF THIS DEVELOPER IS THAT THEY LISTENED YOU AS COUNCIL.
AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY STAFF MET WITH THE DEVELOPER, LET THEM KNOW THAT WE WANT MORE THAN JUST A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
AND BY INCORPORATING NEW AMENITIES THAT IN THAT CAN ENGAGE FAMILIES.
AND ALSO IN OUR SIDE, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS BUSINESS COMMUNITY OR THE AMENITIES THAT ARE INCORPORATED CAN, UH, BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO SMALL BUSINESSES, POSSIBLY SOME INCUBATOR TYPE OF BUSINESSES.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS APPROVED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET A TENANT WITHOUT IT BEING THERE.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO NOT ONLY MAKE THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE ASKED, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ALL THERE OR NOT.
THE GOOD SIGN IS THERE MAKING THE EFFORT TO INCORPORATE VERY HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IN ADDITION TO PATRONS, THAT WILL BE AT THE HOSPITAL EMPLOYEES THAT WORK AT THE HOSPITAL AND WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A SMALL BUSINESS TO BE INCORPORATED INTO A GREAT AMENITY THAT CAN OFFER PROBABLE SUCCESS BECAUSE OF THE RESIDENTS AND BECAUSE OF THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY THAT CAN COME AND ENJOY THE FOOD, THE BEVERAGE, THE GRASSY AREA, BRING THEIR DOGS.
THEY CAN HAVE LITTLE, UH, ARTS IN THE PARK.
IT JUST ADDS SOME MORE DYNAMIC TO THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE AND INCORPORATES THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO TO MOVE FORWARD, I COMMEND YOU.
THIS IS ALSO PART OF THE VIBE TRAIL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE KYLE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OF COMMERCE SUPPORTS AND ENCOURAGES BUSINESS BUSINESSES TO BE A PART OF, TO BRING IN AND HELP THEM GROW THEIR BUSINESS.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I COMMEND YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
GOOD EVENING COUNCIL IN THERE.
UM, IT'S BEEN, UH, I GUESS 15 YEARS
MY NAME IS CIVIC GALLO AND I'M A EAST SIDE ACTIVIST.
I ALSO HAVE A NONPROFIT THAT HAS BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY, STARTING FROM THE LAYMAN, UH, WHAT SHE TALKED ABOUT IN THE FIRST, UH, MEETING ABOUT THE STOP SIGN.
I ACTIVELY GOT INVOLVED WITH ASKING FOR SOMEONE TO DIRECT THAT TRAFFIC 15 YEARS AGO.
AND SO HERE WE ARE AGAIN, REVISITING THAT.
UM, I ALSO, UM, I'M A RESIDENT BUSINESS OWNER AND ACTIVIST FOR THE E SITE DEVELOPMENTS.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE WHEN IN MY ABSENCE OF BEING, NOT BEING OFFICIALLY INVOLVED WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON, BUT I'VE BEEN ACTIVELY SEEING THE GROWTH AND, UH, SEEING ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE.
SO I WANTED TO COMMEND ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED, UH, PARKS AND REC THE PIE IN THE SKY.
I, THAT WAS AN AWESOME, UH, SOMETHING
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THAT WAS DEAR TO MY HEART EVENTS HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY IS A BIG PART OF WHY I'M STANDING HERE TODAY.UH, I GOT, I WAS ACTIVELY, UM, ABLE TO TRAVEL THE WORLD ACROSS THE WORLD.
MY SON SERVES IN THE MILITARY AND HE IS, UH, HE WAS A VOLUNTEER HERE IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
I STOOD WITH THE VFW DUE TO THE FACT THAT MY WHOLE INVOLVEMENT OF GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND PUTTING MY MOUTH WHEREBY POCKETBOOK WAS, IS BECAUSE I WANT MY CHILDREN TO COME BACK AND LIVE HERE IN KYLE.
THE REASON WHY I GOT ACTIVELY INVOLVED 15 YEARS TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE I WANT MY FAMILIES TO COME BACK HERE AND WANT TO LIVE HERE AND NOT BE JUST A PASSING THROUGH COMMUNITY.
SO I'M GRATEFUL COSTCO IS COMING IN.
IT TOOK A WHILE, BUT THEY CAME AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT AND THANKFUL FOR ALL THE EFFORTS THAT THE CITY HAS MADE.
UM, ALSO I JUST WANTED TO BRING BACK MY LOVE AND PASSION OF DOING EVERYTHING I DID IN THE LAST 15 YEARS OF BEING ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE CITY OF KYLE WITH THE EAST SIDE DEVELOPMENT.
I LIKE TO REVISIT AND REOPEN YOUR MINDS TO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THIS KYLE VISTA PARK.
LET'S NOT LET THAT SLIP AWAY AGAIN.
ONCE WE FOUND FUNDING, IF I FOUND FUNDING, ONCE I KNOW WE CAN FIND THAT FUNDING AGAIN.
SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO COME TOGETHER.
I'VE SPOKEN TO OTHER, AS I'M SILENTLY WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES, I'VE WORKED, I'VE TALKED TO COUNTY, UH, HAYES COUNTY, AND I'VE TALKED TO LOCKHART AND I'VE TALKED TO OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE REALLY WANTING TO GET INVOLVED, TO BUILD THIS REC CENTER THAT THE CITY NEEDS.
AS IN THE PAST, I DID A MAJOR SURVEY TO SHOW THE NECESSITY OF BUILDING THIS REC CENTER, THE SKATE PARK, AND JUST HAVING THIS AMENITIES, BEING THE FIRST PERSON TO BRING SOCCER TO THE CITY OF KYLE, THAT, THAT I ONLY ANTICIPATED 34 PRECIPITANTS I GUESS MY SPANGLISH TAKES IN
AND IF I DID THAT ONCE I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS THIS, THEY CONTINUE ASKING ME TO BRING BACK.
VFW IS LOOKING FOR A PLACE, GUESS WHAT? WE HAVE IT.
THAT WAS THAT I BROUGHT TO YOU, YOU ALL SIX YEARS AGO, LET'S JOIN TOGETHER, BRING THIS BACK TO LIFE.
SO MANY OF YOU HAVE FOUGHT AND, AND STOOD KNOCKING ON DOORS FOR THE PEOPLE.
EAST SIDE NEEDS THIS, OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS THE SUB LIBRARY.
THIS, THIS LOCAL COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER TO BUILD IT FOR THE PEOPLE YOU ALL REPRESENT.
THE PEOPLE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE HERE AND NOT JUST WORKING AND LEAVE SOMEWHERE AND COME BACK.
THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE AND PLAY HERE TOO.
SO PLEASE LET'S BRING THAT REC CENTER BACK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, THAT IS ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE FILLED OUT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.
[IV. Agenda Order]
NEXT UP IS, UH, AGENDA ORDER.UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WANT TO MOVE AROUND? MAYOR PRO MAYOR WAS THINKING ABOUT MOVING A AGENDA ITEM NUMBER? UH, I BELIEVE IS IT 39, 30, 37 37.
WE STILL HAVE SOME OF THE VETERANS.
THAT'S THE REASON I WAS BRINGING IT FORWARD.
SEE IF ANY OF VETERANS WERE HERE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO STAY LATER.
UH, I SEE A COUPLE, SO LET'S, LET'S GO MOVE FORWARD, PLEASE.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO BRING FORWARD? ANY OTHER ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT ITEM OFF.
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Consideration and possible action to approve a Flag Retirement Element at Heroes Memorial Park in an amount not to exceed $86,667.00. ~ Robert Rizo, Mayor Pro Tem
]TOP.NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 37 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A FLAG RETIREMENT, UH, ELEMENT AT HEROES MEMORIAL PARK IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $86,667.
UM, I'M BRINGING THIS FORWARD, UH, AS PART OF THE DESIGN FOR THE PARK THAT WE HADN'T INCORPORATED EARLY, UH, PHILIP WOULD NUDGE DESIGN, UH, CAME BACK AND DID A RETIREMENT PIECE FOR THE PARK.
SOMETHING THAT WOULD, UH, HERE WITH ALL OF THE AMENITIES THAT ARE IN THE PARK ALREADY.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN TOLD IS WE STILL HAVE MONEY IN OUR CONTINGENCY TO, UH, PAY FOR THIS.
UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? FLAG RETIREMENT PIECE.
AND, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE COMING FORWARD.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE? I KNOW DAVID COULDN'T BE HERE.
WHO'S HIS WHO'S INSTEAD HERE FOR DAVID.
MAYBE THEY'RE ON, I'M LOOKING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ON REMOTELY OR NOT.
SO IF I COULD GET PEREZ JUST TO UP HERE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE THAT MONEY IN CONTINGENCY FOR THE PARK.
BEFORE HE GETS HERE, I JUST WANT TO
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ADD THAT THIS IS A, HERE HE COMES.HE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE GONNA MOVE IT FORWARD AS PROBABLY HE WAS.
HE'S RUNNING, HE'S RUNNING MAYOR, MAYOR PROAM COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD.
MY CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MAYOR.
PROAM THE FUNDS ARE THERE IN CHARGE.
MAKE SURE THAT WAS STILL THERE.
UM, RYAN, DO YOU WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO IT? WE BROUGHT THE ITEM FORWARD FLAG FLAG RETIREMENT PIECE GAVE ME MAYOR, COUNCIL.
AND WHEN Y'ALL BUMPED IT UP, I HAD TO RUN OVER HERE.
UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ITEM BEFORE YOU, SORRY.
GUESS ME? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS FINANCING, UM, CUZ I REALLY HATE TO SEE US FINANCE $87,000 INTO A BOND.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A BOND, IT'S NOT A BOND.
WELL IT'S CONTINGENCY IS WHAT I HEARD INITIALLY, WHICH IS THE, A CIP P THAT WE HAVE.
SO IT'S JUST ALLOCATED FUNDS THERE.
BUT IF WE WANT TO USE IT OUT OF TUR FUNDS, THEN THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGETED AMOUNT, BUT IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US WITHIN TUR FUNDS.
SO THE CONTINGENCY IS, WILL NOT COVER THIS, THIS, THIS ITEM.
SO IT IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR CONTINGENCY OUTTA THE PROJECT, BUT WHICH MAKES SENSE, CUZ IT IS ADDED SCOPE.
SO I NEED TO FINISH MY QUESTION PLEASE.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF, IF OR HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAD IN THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.
AND IF, IF WE HAD ENOUGH, IF WE COULD USE THAT FOR THIS.
CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT USE OF THE MONEY WE COULD.
IT WOULD QUALIFY IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BRING FOLKS IN, I WOULD THINK.
BUT THE DISCRETION ON THAT IS THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT PUT HEADS AND BEDS? YOU KNOW? AND SO IS THERE A SCENARIO WHERE A FLAG RETIRE FLAG RETIREMENT CEREMONY WOULD BE PROMOTING THE TOURISM INDUSTRY? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES.
I WAS GONNA SAY THE ENTIRE PARK WOULD PROBABLY DO THAT.
CUZ THE REASON PEOPLE WOULD BE COMING TO THE CITY IS TO LOOK AT THE PARK, BUT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, UM, A FLAG RETIREMENT CEREMONY DURING, YOU KNOW, YOUR VISIT TO THE PARK WOULD PROBABLY SOLIDIFY THAT AS BEING SOMETHING CRUCIAL TO THE PARK, THE, THE PARK ITSELF IS, IS, IS A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
ANYTHING THAT WE ADD TO IT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT COULD, IT CONFERS WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THERE WITH ALL THE, UH, LANDSCAPING, WITH ALL OF THE MONUMENTS, EVERYTHING THAT EVERYTHING'S UNINNOCENT THAT NOTHING LOOKS ODD OR OUT OF PLACE.
AND THAT'S WHY, UH, WHEN WE GOT TO THIS POINT WHERE WE NEEDED TO, UH, THE VETERANS POINTED OUT THAT WE NEEDED THIS PIECE, WE DECIDED TO GO BACK WITH PHILLIP, HAVE HIM DES HIM AND HIS TEAM DESIGN IT SINCE THEY DESIGNED THE PARK.
AND THIS IS WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
CAN I HAVE, UM, PEREZ COME UP HERE JUST SO I CAN, UM, CLARIFY AND THERE, THERE YOU ARE.
SO A, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THAT ACCOUNT? WHICH ACCOUNT HO THE HOT TAX I CAN ASSURE YOU? WE DO NOT.
THE HOT FUNDS ARE SPOKEN FOR AND THE BUDGET THAT CITY COUNCIL JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED.
SO THE POSSIBLE FUNDING AND THE BEST FUNDING IN MY RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WOULD BE TO CONSIDER USING TAR FUNDS.
UH, IN ADDITION TO CITY'S PORTION OF TAX REVENUES IN THE TAR FUNDS, YOU'RE ALSO BENEFITING FROM THE COUNTY'S PORTION.
THAT WOULD BE SUPPLEMENTING THAT TE OKAY.
SO I I'M OKAY WITH USING TUR MONEY FOR THE $87,000 AND, BUT WE'RE CONFIRMED, THERE'S NO CONTINGENCY AND THEN THERE'S NO HOT.
UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE BID ITSELF.
I'M LOOKING AT ALL THE BACK OF MATERIALS, BUT THOSE ARE JUST DRAWINGS FROM WHAT I SEE.
UM, WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, UH, SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S $86,000 AND I KNOW IT'S, IT, IT, IT WILL LOOK NICE, BUT I MEAN, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT IT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS IT GONNA LOOK LIKE AT THE END PRODUCT? I SEE THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIALS THAT NEED TO BE USED WITH IT.
UM, GRANTED, UH, OPERATOR COSTS, CONCRETE LABOR, ALL THOSE COSTS 5,000, THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR, UH, SOD REPLACEMENT.
AND SO I'M LOOKING AT ALL THE DETAILS OF WHAT IT IS, THE LABOR, THE MATERIAL, THE COST OF IT ALL.
AND SO WHEN I GET THESE KIND OF THINGS, I LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE FULL END PRODUCT, CUZ IT'S LIKE WHEN I GO IN AND BUYING A VEHICLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WANNA SEE THE
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END RESULT OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.SO IF YOU LOOK AT A DRAWINGS, IT'LL SHOW THAT IT'S MARBLE, IT'LL HAVE, UH, THE FLAG STRIPES ON THE SIDE IT'LL HAVE STARS ON THE TOP, BUT THE PIT WILL ALSO BE MADE IN A WAY WHERE WE CAN CLEAN IT EASILY.
IT'LL BE EASY ACCESS TO CLEAN THE PIT, THE, THE FIRE PIT AS WELL.
AND IT'LL ALSO HAVE A LOCK, UH, LOCKING LID ON TOP.
SO PEOPLE DON'T GO OUT THERE AND BARBECUE ON IT, RIGHT.
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE LAST THING WE WANT IS, UM, SO IT IS GOING THE, THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THIS IS THE MARBLE.
YOU'LL HAVE A FIRE BRICK, UH, SOMETHING THAT'LL BE, UH, FIRE RETARDANT AS WELL, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE MARBLE.
IT'S GONNA BE THE HIGHEST COST ON THIS PIT.
SO, AND THAT THAT'S TO KEEP A UNISON WITH ALL OF THE, UH, MEMORIAL ITSELF.
SO WHO'S GONNA BE MAINTAINING THIS, UH, THIS, UH, THIS PIECE HERE.
WHO'S GONNA BE IN CHARGE WITH THE MAINTENANCE AND CLEANING UP AND SO FORTH.
SO THE VETERANS BE THE AVIS, IS IT GONNA BE THE CITY STAFF OR WE'RE GONNA HIRE ANOTHER CONTRACTOR? NO, IT'S GONNA BE WHOEVER USES IT.
SO WHETHER IT'S THE AVIS, IT'S THE BOY SCOUTS OR THE VFW, THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING OUT THE INSIDE OF THE BED.
THE OUTSIDE OF IT WOULD BE OUR STAFF, CUZ THEY'RE GONNA BE CLEANING OF THE I MARBLE ALREADY ON THE PREMISES.
SO IT'LL BE OUR STAFF THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MARBLE.
SO THEY WILL ALSO HAVE A SPECIFIC TYPE OF CLEANING PROCESS.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF THE BOY SCOUTS USE THIS, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW DO, IS THERE A TYPE OF, UH, SPECIFIC TYPE OF CLEANING PROCEDURE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE? CHEMICALS, UM, TOOLS, MATERIALS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PURCHASED LATER ON.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME NO, IT'S JUST TAKING A, PULLING THE PAN OUT, UH, SWEEPING EVERYTHING OUT OF THE INSIDE, CUZ REALLY IT'S A BURN PIT.
THE INSIDE'S GONNA STAY, YOU KNOW, BURNT IT'S THE OUTSIDE.
THE MARBLE THAT WHILE OUR STAFF IS LOOKING IS, IS TAKING CARE OF THE MARBLE AND THE REST OF THE PARK.
THEY WOULD COME AND TAKE CARE OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE MARBLE THERE AS WELL.
BUT REALLY THE INSIDE'S JUST SWEEPING IT OUT, MAKING SURE YOU DON'T LEAVE THE DEBRIS IN THERE.
IT'S MADE IN A WAY WHERE IT'S EASY TO CLEAN.
I LIKE THE, I LIKE THE WHOLE PROCESS AND I LIKE HOW, UH, IT, IT MAY BRING PEOPLE IN MY CONCERN IS GONNA BE, UM, A LIABILITY TO THE CITY AS FAR AS, UM, IF WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO CLEAN IT THEMSELVES.
UM, SO MAYBE WE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINITIVE ON WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WOULD BE, BECAUSE I IMAGINE AFTER YOU, AFTER YOU BURN IT, THE FLAG THAT YOU THEN HAVE TO LET IT COOL.
SO HOW DO WE LIKE, DO THEY COME BACK? DO THEY WAIT FOR IT TO COOL? LIKE WHAT'S THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? YEAH.
IT COULD BE A, IT COULD BE AN APPLICATION TO THE CITY TO USE THE FACILITIES AND THEN THEY WOULD SIGN OFF ON SOME, LIKE A WAIVER, VARIOUS THINGS.
THAT'S A PROCESS THAT WE COULD PUT INTO PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN, BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
CAN THAT BE DONE LIKE A WAIVER? WE CAN, WE CAN DEVELOP AN APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THAT AND I'M SURE THAT WE CAN, UM, LEVERAGE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR VETERANS TO HELP US MAINTAIN THAT, THAT PIECE IN THE PARK.
SO MAYBE WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE A TWO PART MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE USE TUR FUNDS, A THREE PART APPROVE USING TUR FUNDS AND THEN TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF, TO DEVELOP A PROCESS FOR HOW THE PIT IS USED AND DISPOSED OF.
IS THAT EMOTION? NO, I WAS GONNA LET HIM CONTINUE DO IT IF YOU WANTED.
YEAH, JUST, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO IT IS THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PARK AND THERE'S A LOT OF, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S LACKING IS A LITTLE BIT MORE PROGRAMMING.
AND I THINK FOR YOU AS A, AS A RESIDENT OR SOMEONE COMING OUTTA THE CITY, COME VISIT THE PARK TO SEE THIS CEREMONY GOING ON, CUZ A BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN TO A FEW AND IT'S, IT'S A GREAT CEREMONY TO SEE THIS HAPPENING IN THE PARK IN REAL TIME WOULD BE A BENEFIT FOR OUR CITY I THINK WOULD INC INCREASE TOURISM.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY ALL SAY YOU'VE GOTTA GET THE BUY-IN FROM THE LOCALS BEFORE YOU GET THE TOURIST STAND.
SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PIECE FOR IT.
AND I KNOW THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT JUST FOR THE VFW.
IT'S ALSO FOR THE BOY SCOUTS AND ALSO FOR THE AVIDS AS WELL.
SO MANY OF THE GROUPS HERE WILL BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM IT.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, UH, UH, FLAG RETIREMENT PIECE, UH, FOR IT TO COME OUT OF THE TUR FUND AND FOR US TO, FOR STAFF TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS, UH, FOR USAGE SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TIM SECOND BY COUNCIL MAYOR, FLORIDA SCALE THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 37 AND USE TE FUNDS AND DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A, UM, UH, OR TO NOT NECESSARILY COME BACK, BUT TO DEVELOP A, UM, UH, PLAN FOR USAGE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MESSAGE, UH, CUSTOMER TOUS JUST ONE LAST THING REFERENCING THE CONTRACT, UM, THERE'S A 12,486 MARKUP.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THAT'S THE, UH, OVERHEAD AND PROFIT AND ACTUALLY, UH, THIS AFTERNOON, UH, WE GOT THAT REDUCED BY $5,000.
SO THE FINAL THAT IS EXECUTED WILL BE A TOTAL OF 81,000 AND SOME CHANGE
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VERSUS WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE CMC PERSONNEL 8,000.THAT'S THE CADENCE MCCHAIN PERSONNEL.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS THE GENERAL CONDITIONS, UM, THEIR OVERSIGHT AND THEIR PERSONNEL, UM, TO, TO, UH, OVERSEE THE PROCESS, UH, BECAUSE IT DOES, UM, EXTEND THEIR SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FINISHING UP AND SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION IS KNOCKING ON THE DOOR RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'LL EXTEND THEIR CONTRACT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND SO THAT'S TO COVER THEIR PERSONNEL COSTS.
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? ALL IS A FAVOR.
[6. Proclamation recognizing the achievement of Kyle resident Dylan Mumma in completing a 292-mile journey on a kayak along the Colorado River. ~ Robert Rizo, Mayor Pro Tem]
RIGHT.NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE ACHIEVEMENT OF KYLE RESIDENT, DYLAN MUMA IN, IN COMPLETING THE 292 MILE JOURNEY ON A KAYAK ALONG THE COLORADO RIVER OR
I SAW YOU BACK THERE WITH YOUR SHADES ON.
I WAS LIKE FIRST TIME YOU RECOGNIZ.
SO MAYOR, UM, A PROCLAMATION OF THE CITY OF COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS RECOGNIZING THE ACHIEVEMENT OF DIBABA MUA.
MUMBA IN THE COMPLETION OF A 292 MILE JOURNEY ON A KAYAK ALONG TO COLORADO RIVER, DYLAN MUMA BEGAN HIS JOURNEY ALONG TO COLORADO RIVER FROM FM 9 73 BRIDGE IN EAST AUSTIN, AUSTIN ON THE MORNING OF JULY 27TH AND REACHED ME AGORA BAY IN THE GULF OF MEXICO AROUND 9:00 PM ON AUGUST 1ST.
AND WHEREAS DYLAN MUMA ALONG THE WAY, CAMPED OUT ON HIS KAYAK UNDER A BRIDGE CROSSINGS AND BOAT RAMPS AND ED AND SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATED NATURAL DANGERS AND WILDLIFE USING SKILLS CARED FROM THE TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER IMPORTANT RESOURCES.
AND WHEREAS DYLAN MUMA COW RESIDENCE IN 2016 MET PEOPLE AND IN COMMUNITIES ALL ALONG THE COLORADO RIVER, DOING THIS TRIP AND REPRESENTED THE ENDURANCE, TENACITY AND STRENGTH AND WILL OF THE RESIDENCE OF KYLE WHILE ON HIS JOURNEY.
NOW THEREFORE BE PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AT THE CITY OF COUNCIL RECOGNIZES DYLAN MUA ACHIEVEMENTS OF TRAVELING ALMOST 300 MILES ON A SOLO JOURNEY ALONG TO COLORADO RIVER, SIGNED AN INTERN THIS SIXTH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2020.
AND I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THIS.
SO THIS WASN'T PLANNED, HE SHOWED UP ON HIS KAYAK AND HE TOOK OFF FROM THE BRIDGE WITHOUT A LOT OF SUPPLIES AND MADE THIS INCREDIBLE JOURNEY ALONG THE WAY.
IF SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH SOUTH TEXAS, THERE'S ALLIGATORS ALL UP, PUT DOWN THE RIVER THERE.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF WILDLIFE.
UH, SO TO SEE SOMEONE DO THIS WITHOUT A LOT OF PLANNING IS AMAZING AND IT JUST SHOWS, UM, HIS, HIS RESOLVE, BUT DYLAN ACTUALLY DID THIS BECAUSE HE, HE WAS GOING THROUGH A HARD, UH, DIFFICULT LITTLE, UM, BREAKUP WITH A FRIEND OF HIS AND DECIDED, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA GO KAYAK FOR A LITTLE BIT.
ENDED UP ON, TOOK OFF BIG JOURNEY.
SO I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT, UM, THANK YOU.
WHEN I SAW IT UNUSED, I THOUGHT IT WAS AMAZING FOR SOMEONE FOR KYLE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND SOMETHING THAT SEVERAL WAS ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT IS DOING THE BIG RACE FROM MARTINDALE DOWN TO THE BAY.
YOU DID IT FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT MANY PEOPLE DO IT THAT WAY.
UH, I THINK I WAS THE FOURTH PERSON TO DO IT.
UH, I KIND OF SEE WHY NOW
I DEFINITELY WOULD'VE BROUGHT MORE WATER, STASHED IT UNDER MORE BRIDGES.
CUZ THAT WAS ALL, I WAS KIND OF COASTING ON UNTIL THE NICE PIECE PEOPLE OF SOUTH TEXAS AND BAY CITY THREW ME SOME BEERS IN THE WATER
WAS THIS CONSECUTIVE LIKE YOU JUST GOT ON, IT WAS FOUR NIGHTS, FIVE DAYS.
UH, SO YES MA'AM I LEFT, UH, AUSTIN ON A WEDNESDAY MORNING I BELIEVE.
AND I WAS IN MATAGORTA UH MATAGORTA SUNDAY.
SO IT WAS JUST KIND OF, YEAH, NONSTOP.
I DID THE FIRST 110 MILES TO, UH, LAGRANGE AND ONE GO OTHER THAN STOPPING AT A FRIEND'S BOAT RAMP AND BASS DROP, UH, BASS DROP RIVER COMPANY.
IF YOU GUYS ARE EVER OUT THERE IN BASS DROP, IT'S THE ONLY RIVER OUTFITTER IN BASS DROP.
UH, THEY HELPED ME
UH, SO I WAS ABLE TO STOP THERE AND REFUEL, UH, AND THEN ONTO LAG GRANGE, ANOTHER 62 MILES, UH, MAKING 110 BEFORE I GOT MY FIRST NIGHT'S SLEEP UNDERNEATH THE BRIDGE IN LAG GRANGE.
OH, KEPT GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE COAST.
AND UH, ONCE I GOT THROUGH, MY BUDDY WAS WAITING FOR ME IN MY TRUCK, SO YEAH.
IT WAS A JOURNEY THAT'S FOR SURE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTARY CUT? THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION.
HOW DID YOU GET BACK
MY GOOD FRIEND COLTON WAS WAITING FOR ME IN MY TRUCK AND IT WAS KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE I DRIVE CONSTRUCTION TRUCK WITH THE FLASHERS AND HE FLIPPED THEM ALL ON, ON THE BEACH.
SO I KNEW EXACTLY WHERE TO GO.
AND AS I'M COMING UP, I JUST SEE THE FLASHERS GOING
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OFF.I'M LIKE, I KNOW THAT'S MY TRUCK.
IT'S LIKE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
AS I GOT CHASED OUT OF A GATOR'S NEST AND GLEN FORA, A LITTLE TOWN CALLED GLEN FLORA.
UH, AND I HAPPENED TO WALK UP TO THE ONLY BAR AND GRILL IN TOWN, UH, A POPULATION LIKE 600 AND THE BARTENDER AT 1:00 AM HAPPENED TO BE THE NEPHEW OF THE, UH, THE LOCK MASTER IN MATAGORDA WHO HAD MET A WEEK PRIOR.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF A, A FUNNY COINCIDENCE CUZ I, I MET THE LOCK MASTER TO WONDER HOW I GO THROUGH THE LOCKS IN A KAYAK.
IF YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANNA GET HIT BY A BARGE.
SO HE TOLD ME A RADIO IN AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK ON MY TRIP, I MET HIS NEPHEW A HUNDRED MILES INLAND AT A BAR DURING THIS TRIP.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT I THINK I COULD'VE KEPT PADDLING HONESTLY, BUT I KNEW THAT THE NEXT STOP WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, EITHER CUBA
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I WASN'T READY FOR IT TO END.
IT BRINGS TO MIND FORCE GUMP A LITTLE BIT.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE ASKED IF I'M GONNA TURN AROUND AND PADDLE UP.
I SAID, NOW THAT THE DAMS, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK UP THEM GETTING DOWN THEM WAS HARD ENOUGH.
WELL, WE'RE GLAD YOU MADE IT SAFELY.
THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TIM FOR THANK YOU GUYS, BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
SO THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING KYLE.
COULD WE GET A PHOTO REAL QUICK? YEAH, BE GREAT.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN MOVE THIS BACK JUST SO ALL
[7. Kyle/Buda Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) Proclamation. ~ Michael Tobias, Council Member]
RIGHT.NEXT UP KYLE BUA COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM CERT PROCLAMATION CUSTOMER TOUS.
UH, VERY HONORED TO READ THIS, UH, PROCLAMATION.
UM, WE, AS A CITY ARE PRIVILEGE TO HAVE THE KYLE BETA COMMUNITY RESPOND EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM KNOWN AS CERT.
THIS TEAM IS IN HAY BASED IN HAYES COUNTY AND IS PRESENT IN EVERY CITY SPECIAL EVENT.
THE CERT TEAM IS HIGHLY DEDICATED TO THE COMMUNITY AND ROUTINELY ENACTS EFFORTS TO ENSURE KYLE IS LOOKED AFTER WITH MEDICAL TENTS, TRAINING, STAFF, WATER STATIONS, AND ANY OTHER REQUESTS THAT IS SENT THEIR WAY WITH ALL THEIR EFFORTS, TIME AND COMMITMENT.
WE, THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE LOCAL VOLUNTEERS PUBLICLY AND FOR THE MANY HOURS THEY PUT IN AND THE GREAT WORK THEY PROVIDE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO AGAIN, IT'S MY HONOR TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION, ACKNOWLEDGING THE EFFORTS FOR THE KYLE BETA COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.
WHEREAS IN 2022, THE CITY OF KYLE HAS HOSTED A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY EVENTS AND EXPERIENCED SEVERAL EMERGENCIES REQUIRING SUPPORT OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
AND WHEREAS SPECIAL EVENTS HAVE FREQUENTLY NEEDED FOR ASSISTANCE IN AREAS OF MASS CARE, FIRST AID, SHELTERING, AND VIGILANT COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND WHEREAS THE KYLE BU A CERT IS COMPRISED EXCLUSIVELY OF VOLUNTEERS FROM OUR COMMUNITIES WITH SPECIFIC TRAINING IN FIRST AID, MASS CARE AND SHELTERING TRAFFIC AND CROWD MANAGEMENT.
AND WHEREAS THE CERT SERVICE INCLUDES INVOLVEMENT WITH THE AMVETS MARCH HEALTHY KIDS SERIES WINNER, DOG RACES, VETERANS DAY PARADE, 4TH OF JULY FESTIVITIES, KYLE FDS, 5K BENEFIT RUN AND PAPA JACK'S FIRE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AND PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO THE UPCOMING HEROES MEMORIAL RIBBON CUTTING AND FOUNDER'S DAY PARADE AS WELL AS PROVIDING FREE SEARCH TRAINING TO THE PUBLIC AND OFFERING COMMUNITY INFORMATION AND QUESTION AND ANSWERING SESSIONS.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE HAS IMPLEMENTED AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THIS YEAR.
AND WHEREAS THE CERT HAS BEEN HIGHLY PROACTIVE IN BECOMING INVOLVED IN PLANNING AND UNPLANNED EVENTS IN COLLABORATION WITH
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THE FLEDGING OF OFFICE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.NOW, THEREFORE IT BE PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE EXPRESSES ITS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND APPRECIATION OF THE EFFORT OF OUR COMMUNITY, VOLUNTEERS TO THE REGULAR FUNCTION AND CONTINUED ASSISTANCE OF THE CERT TESTIMONY WHERE MAYOR CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE HAS UNDO THE SUBSCRIBE, THEIR NAMES AND HAVE CAUSED THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF KYLE, UH, AFFECTS THE CITY OF KYLE ON THIS DAY, SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2022.
AND, UH, I CAN REMEMBER DURING THE SNOWSTORM AND ALSO WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE WAS GOING ON THAT, UH, WE SAW YOU OUT THERE, I BELIEVE YOU ALSO WERE AT LAST YEAR'S EMERGENCY RESPONSE, FAIR GIVING OUT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT YOU DO AND LOOK AT FOR VOLUNTEERS.
I REMEMBER, UH, SPEAKING TO SOME OF Y'ALL OUT THERE.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU HAVE DONE, UH, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
IT IT'S IT'S REALLY MUCH NEEDED.
IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY ADVOCATED FOR COMING ON COUNCIL WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, SYSTEMS AND, UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT'S IN PLACE FOR CRITICAL INCIDENTS IN OUR CITY.
AND I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO RELY ON YOU AS VOLUNTEERS TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR, OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY COUNCIL, FL CAL.
UM, SO A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT I'VE, I'VE MET PERSONALLY AND THEY ARE REALLY TRULY GREAT PEOPLE.
UM, ON A SIDE NOTE, I THINK MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP FUND THEM.
I KNOW THEY'RE FUNDED, I THINK BY THE COUNTY.
UM, BUT FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO FOR KYLE, I THINK AT SOME POINT WE SHOULD CONSIDER SOME KIND OF GIVE BACK.
MAYBE IT COULD JUST BE OUR TIME.
UM, I'VE BEEN OFFERED TO ATTEND THESE CLASSES MANY TIMES
THAT'S REALLY HUGE CUZ I, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF ANYONE'S EVER COME IN CONTACT WITH THEM DURING ANY KIND OF EVENTS, BUT I'VE SEEN, UH, I THINK DURING OUR VETERANS DAY PARADE, WE HAD KIDS THAT WERE GETTING DUNKED AND THE WATER TANK, WHICH WAS FUN DURING THE DAY, BUT THEN IT GOT THE, LIKE THE, THE, THE SUN WENT DOWN AND IT WAS REALLY COLD.
AND SO AT SOME POINT THEY HAD THE KIDS WRAPPED UP AND, AND, AND WARMING THEM UP.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO FOR US.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU NEED, PLEASE JUST KIND OF LET, LET US KNOW.
IF WE CAN, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A NICE A PHOTO WITH YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS AS WELL, COUNCIL.
UH, CAN I JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THIS WAY, COUNCIL? ALL 3, 1, 2, 3.
[8. Hunger Action Month Mayoral Proclamation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
RIGHT.NEXT UP IS THE, UH, HUNGER ACTION MONTH MURAL PROCLAMATION.
UH, THIS IS ONE THAT I DO EVERY YEAR.
UH, WHEREAS ACCORDING TO FEEDING AMERICA, THE PANDEMIC, UH, HAS MOST IMPACTED FAMILIES THAT WERE ALREADY FACING HUNGER OR ARE ONE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM FACING HUNGER.
AND WHEREAS HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE FOOD INSECURITY AND MANY OF THE, UH, THESE HOUSEHOLDS DO NOT QUALIFY FOR FEDERAL NUTRITION PROGRAMS LIKE THE SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND VISIT THEIR LOCAL FOOD BANKS AND OTHER FOOD PROGRAMS FOR EXTRA SUPPORT.
AND WHEREAS HAY COUNTY FOOD BANK REPRESENTS A COUNTY-WIDE EFFORT TO PROVIDE NUTRITIOUS FOODS, UH, TO THE FOOD INSECURE IN THE GREATER HAYES COUNTY AREA MADE POSSIBLE BY THE GENEROUS CONTRIBUTIONS OF INDIVIDUALS, CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESSES.
AND WHEREAS IN 2021 HAYES COUNTY FOOD BANK AND ITS PARTNERS SERVED ON AVERAGE EACH WEEK, 2,500 LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS, AND THOSE FACING A FOOD EMERGENCY DISTRIBUTING MORE THAN 1 MILLION POUNDS OF FOOD TO THOSE HOUSEHOLDS IN NEED.
AND WHEREAS 40% OF ALL HAYES COUNTY FOOD BANK CLIENTS IN 2021 CONSISTED OF KYLE RESIDENTS AND AN ADDITIONAL 23% OF TOTAL PARTNER NONPROFITS SERVED WERE BASED IN KYLE, INCLUDING CHURCH AND, UH, SCHOOL FOOD PANTRIES.
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A $20 DONATION CAN PROVIDE 60 MEALS THROUGH THE BUYING POWER OF FOOD BANKS.AND WHEREAS NATIONAL HUNGER ACTION MONTH IS A FEEDING AMERICA EFFORT TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE HUNGER EPIDEMIC IN THE UNITED STATES AND TO ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS TO TAKE ACTION IN SOME FORM AGAINST HUNGER.
NOW, THEREFORE WE, THE CITY COUNCIL OF KYLE BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VEST IN US DO HEREBY PROCLAIM.
THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, 2022 IS HUNGER ACTION MONTH IN KYLE, TEXAS, AND CALL UPON THE PEOPLE OF KYLE TO PLEDGE, TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST HUNGER IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT BE BY FUND OR FOOD DONATION, VOLUNTEERING OR ADVOCACY.
UH, AND I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, A SPECIAL GUEST WHO COMES.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE HAYES COUNTY FOOD BANK HERE AS WELL.
UH, UH, WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH, UH, HAYES COUNTY FOOD BANK, AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHERS HERE GONNA CAN SPEAK TO THAT EVEN BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT, UH, UH, THE HAY COUNTY FOOD BANK, I, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE LIKE, UH, WITHOUT YOU.
UH, SO IT IS VERY MUCH A, UM, UH, UH, AN HONOR OF MIND TO, TO TRY TO HELP SHED JUST THIS, UH, LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT.
I THINK THERE'S SOME KIND OF TURKEY, UH, BACK THERE WHO LIKES TO COME FORWARD AND HELP TO, UM, UH, BRING THAT, BRING YOU, BRING THAT FORWARD.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, MAY PRO TEMP? YEAH, JUST, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ECONOMY BEING WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE NEEDS THAT'S GOTTEN LARGER HERE IN HAYES COUNTY.
SO IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER DONATING TO THE FOOD BANK, YOUR DONATION WOULD GO A LONG WAY.
UM, I'M ALSO PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE HAYES COUNTY FOOD BANK SERVING UNDER ELEANOR AND WITH MARK JONES AS WELL.
SEVERAL OTHER RESIDENTS, UH, FROM THE HAYES COUNTY, IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.
THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT REALLY RIGHT NOW THE NEED IS REALLY STRONG.
SO WE NEED DONATIONS THAT CAN COME IN WOULD REALLY BE APPRECIATED.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, AGAIN, THANK THE, UH, THE FOOD BANK FOR THAT, AND ALSO COMMISSIONER MARK JONES FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS AS WELL.
AND MAYOR PRO 10 FOR BEING ON THE BOARD.
UH, IT, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE IT WILL BE THE HOLIDAY SEASON SOON.
UH, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE, UH, FOOD BANKS, UH, UH, UP AND RUNNING AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, FOOD AND GROCERIES TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START NOW, IT'S SEPTEMBER.
I KNOW WE JUST BARELY HAD LABOR DAY, BUT MAYBE WE CAN START LOOKING INTO THAT.
AND, UH, THAT WAY WE COULD BE, HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL, UH, HOLIDAY SEASON FOR THESE RESIDENTS THAT NEED IT.
AND JUST, JUST IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO, UH, REMIND THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, HAS A DISTRIBUTION OF EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS AND DOES A GREAT JOB.
SO I'M CHALLENGING OUR PD TO, UH, DO THE SAME AS WELL.
SO CHIEF BARNETT, UM, IF Y'ALL HEAR, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UH, THE CHALLENGE IS ON, ALL RIGHT.
Y'ALL LIKE TO COME UP FORWARD.
IS, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING OR OKAY, NOW I KNOW WHO IT'S
I'M THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS COORDINATOR WITH THE HAYES COUNTY FOOD BANK.
WE JUST WANTED TO THANK THE CITY OF KYLE FOR PROCLAIMING SEPTEMBER AS HUNGER ACTION MONTH.
IT'S A TIME DEDICATED TO SPREADING AWARENESS OF THE ISSUE THAT OUR NEIGHBORS FACE, WHICH IS HUNGER.
UM, TAKE TIME TO ADVOCATE, SPREAD THE WORD, SHARE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
YOU CAN ALWAYS DONATE $1 EQUALS THREE MEALS, AND YOU CAN ALWAYS VOLUNTEER.
WE HAVE A DISTRIBUTION EVERY TUESDAY AT THE ST ANTHONY'S CATHOLIC CHURCH.
WE'RE ALWAYS NEEDING AN EXTRA HAND FOR THAT.
AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST HERE, MARK JONES, AND A TURKEY COSTUME TO BRING AWARENESS FOR OUR LARGEST CAMPAIGN OF THE YEAR.
TURKEY'S TACKLING HUNGER, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
UM, $30 WILL PROVIDE ONE THANKSGIVING MEAL FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN NEED.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG PUSH COMING UP SOON.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS AND DONORS FOR THAT AS WELL.
IT'S LIKE TO SAY COUPLE WORDS.
NO, I JUST WANT, I HOPE Y'ALL NOTICE.
AFTER 10 YEARS THEY FINALLY BOUGHT ME A NEW SUIT.
AND STUFF DIDN'T SAY ANY STUFFING WITH, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I HAD ENOUGH.
I DIDN'T EVEN, I ALSO WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR WEARING MY HAT IN HERE, BUT IN THE PAST I'VE GOT COMPLAINTS.
WHEN WE TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE COUNCIL, IT'S HARD TO TELL ME FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
AND I KNOW WE'RE GONNA KNOW Y'ALL ALL GONNA BE SUPPORTING OUR FOOD BANK AND OUR TURKEYS TACKLING HUNGER, BUT THANK Y'ALL.
CAN WE HAVE, CAN WE GET A PICTURE WITH THE YEAH.
AT WHAT TIME DO YOU GUYS, UH, NEED VOLUNTEERS IN TUESDAYS? SO THAT DISTRIBUTION IS FROM 12 TO 1245, BUT THE VOLUNTEER SHIFT IS LOOKING ABOUT 1130 TO ONE 15.
SO IT'S ONLY TWO HOURS OF YOUR TIME AND IT REALLY LETS YOU SEE THE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY.
Y'ALL YEAH, DEFINITELY TAKE ONE ON Y'ALLS AND I'LL TAKE ONE OF MINE
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ON THIS BLOCK.[9.
Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Acting City Manager
- Pie in the Sky Recap
- Heroes Memorial Park Ribbon Cutting - Sept. 11
- Doggie Dip - Sept. 18
- Squeeze Box Market Day - Sept. 24
- Dance for People with Disabilities Halloween Boo-gie - Sept 30
- Dialogue for Peace & Progress - Celebrating Hispanic Heritage Month - Sept. 16
- Hays County Creates Film Advisory Board
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HOSTED THE ANNUAL PIE IN THE SKY EVENT DAY.
THIS SATURDAY, UH, WE HAD A REALLY GREAT TIME OUT AT GREG CLARK PARK.
THE EVENT WAS HELD FROM 12 TO EIGHT.
ALL BANDS WERE ABLE TO PERFORM INCLUDING BROKEN ARROW, LC ROCKS, UH, THE JU BOX PREACHER FEATURING ART DE HEINA, KYLE PARK, ANDREA GOMEZ, AND THETO BANDITS.
UH, THE PIE ACTIVITIES INCLUDE THE PINE BAKING CONTEST, THE PIE EATING CONTEST, AND IT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE TO SEE THE PIE RECITAL CONTEST.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE HOT AIR BALLOONS COULD NOT GO UP UNDO TO WEATHER, BUT WE HAD A REALLY GREAT TIME AND WE ARE GETTING READY FOR NEXT YEAR, LABOR DAY, 2023 BACK AT LAKE KYLE, UM, AND LIKE ALL EVENTS.
THIS ONE REALLY TOOK MANY, MANY DEPARTMENTS TO PUT ON, INCLUDING THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, COMMUNICATIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND TRADES POLICE, FIRE STAFF FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HUMAN RESOURCES, HAYES COUNTY EMS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, CITIZENS ON PATROL AND CERT WHO YOU JUST RECOGNIZED.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS PAST WEEKEND.
AND THEN THIS SUNDAY AT 9:00 AM WE HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR HEROES MEMORIAL PARK? THE PROCESSION WILL START RIGHT AT NINE.
O'CLOCK FOLLOWED BY A FLAG RAISIN CEREMONY FROM THE HONOR GUARDS, A CEREMONY WITH NATIONAL ANTHEM FROM THE HAYES HIGH SCHOOL HONOR, UH, HONOR CHOIR.
UM, THE CEREMONY WILL CONCLUDE WITH A FLYOVER FOR THE COMMEMORATIVE AIR FORCE, UH, CENTRAL TEXAS WING AND PARKING WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE HAYES PACK.
UM, OVERFLOW PARKING WILL BE AVAILABLE AT ACC.
SO THAT'S THIS SUNDAY AT 9:00 AM.
AND THEN NEXT SUNDAY, WE HAVE THE DOGGY DIP AT GREG CLARK PARK THAT WILL CLOSE THE POOL SEASON FOR THE YEAR.
UH, REGISTRATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AND WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE 12 SPOTS LEFT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PRETTY BIG CURL NEXT SUNDAY AT THE POOL TO BRING ALL YOUR FUR DOGGY FRIENDS OUT.
AND THEN WE'RE WRAPPING UP THE MONTH.
SO AFTER YOU RUN THE BLUE SANTA 5K ON THE MORNING OF SEPTEMBER 24TH, YOU CAN COME ON OVER TO MARY KYLE HARTSON CITY SQUARE PARK FOR THE SQUEEZE BOX MARKET DAY.
THE SQUEEZE BOX MARKET DAY FEATURES ACCORDION BASED MUSIC.
AND THIS YEAR LINEUP IS A CELEBRATION OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
SO FEATURING THIS YEAR, WE'LL START THE YEAR WITH THE POPULAR BY DEMAND, UM, THE, UH, OFF THE GRID BAND.
AND THEN JOE MEDO WILL PLAYTO ILO CHAMPS, AND ANDTO BANDITS THAT'S ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH FROM 10 TO SIX.
AND THEN OUR FINAL EVENT OF THE MONTH IS ON SEPTEMBER 30TH FROM SIX TO EIGHT AT GEMSTONE PALACE.
IT IS COMPLETELY FREE SINCE THE VALENTINE'S DANCE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES WAS SO POPULAR.
WE'LL BE HAVING A BOOGIE BOOGIE, WEEN, UH, DANCE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, UM, GENEROUSLY SPONSORED AT THE GEMSTONE PALACE AND REGISTRATION FOR THAT IS ALSO ONLINE.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UM, I'M OUTTA CURIOSITY.
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YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE VETERANS, UM, PARADE? SO REGISTRATION FOR VETERANS PARADE, UM, SHOULD BE PO, UH, POSTED ONLINE AND AVAILABLE.I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON IT IF IT'S NOT OPEN, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST ACCEPTING VENDOR REGISTRATIONS FOR THE PARADE AND THE LOCATION IS TO BE ANNOUNCED.
AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR JERRY OR EVEN COUNCIL.
UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED AS I AM TO KIND OF BE ON A COMMITTEE TO HELP, UM, THE VETERAN'S DAY PARADE.
I KNOW OUR FIRST ONE WAS LAST YEAR AND I WAS INVOLVED IN IT AND IT WAS REALLY AMAZING.
UM, SO IF POSSIBLE, IF ANYBODY WAS INTERESTED IN DOING THAT AGAIN AND IT'S NOT TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO, IT'S JUST, JUST BE TOLD WHAT TO DO
LAST YEAR WAS, WAS SO IT WAS AMAZING AND THINK, AND, AND IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT.
AND, AND BEING, UH, INVOLVED IN THAT PLANNING WAS GOOD.
WE WANTED TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE PARADES AS INCLUDING THE FOUNDERS TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S IN LINE.
BUT I, I THINK THERE IS SOME INTEREST FOR SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE VETERAN'S PARADE, UH, UM, HELPING OUT WITH WHATEVER THINGS LIKE THAT, CUZ IT, IT DOES MEAN A LOT TO A LOT OF US, UM, BEING A SON OF A VETERAN.
AND UH, AND OF COURSE THE NEPHEW THAT A LOT OF US HAVE THOSE TIES WITH WITH THAT TYPE OF, UH, CELEBRATION IN SENSE.
SO COUNCIL, I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT YOU EMAIL MARIANA WITH HOW YOU'D LIKE TO BE INVOLVED AND SHE WILL FIND A PLACE FOR YOU.
AND BOUNDARIES DAY REGISTRATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE RIGHT NOW.
SO I WILL CONFIRM ON VETERAN'S DAY VETERAN'S PROVIDE REGISTRATION AND THAT IS STILL FOR OCTOBER THE EIGHTH CENTER, OCTOBER 8TH.
NEXT UP IS OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, RACHEL SONIER FOR, UH, DIALOGUE FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS.
HELLO COUNSEL, RACHEL SONIER FOR THE RECORD DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS.
UH, SO WE HAVE THE DIALOGUE FOR IN PROGRESS, UH, CELEBRATING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, WHICH IS A FRIDAY, UH, IT'LL BE HERE AT CITY HALL, BUT IT'LL ALSO BE LIVE STREAMED ON OUR YOUTUBE, COLTON AND OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.
UH, WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR PANELISTS.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL APPLY, BUT WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE, UH, ANYONE FROM, UH, INTERESTING BACKGROUND OR THAT HAS ANY KIND OF THOUGHTFUL, UH, THINGS TO, TO SPEAK ON ON HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, PLEASE APPLY.
UH, YOU CAN EITHER EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS, D E P T DEPARTMENT CITY KYLE.COM OR GO TO THE CITY, KYLE.COM/DIALOGUE, AND FILL OUT OUR WEB FORM THERE.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THOUGH, UH, JUST EMAIL THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.
LAAS IS CERTAINLY NOT LEAST IS OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, VICTORIA VARGUS, MAYOR COUNCIL OF VICTORIA VARGAS FOR THE RECORD, I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, SOME GOOD NEWS THAT THE HAYES COUNTY JUDGE RUBEN BETTA CREATED A HAYES COUNTY ADVISORY BOARD FOR, UM, FOR FILM FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES.
AND HE APPOINTED HIS, UH, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT ANITA COLLINS AS THE CHAIR OF THAT FILM ADVISORY BOARD.
AND HE APPOINTED ME AS THE VICE CHAIR, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UH, EMBRACE FILMING IN TEXAS AS IN KYLE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'VE SEEN, UH, HBO HERE, UH, AMC, AND ALSO THE CW HAS FILMED HERE IN KYLE AND IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO PROMOTE OUR COMMUNITY AS A FILM FRIENDLY COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO GET EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTY CERTIFIED AS A FILM FRIENDLY COMMUNITY SO THAT THE WHOLE COUNTY CAN BE CERTIFIED.
AND IT'S PERFECT TIMING WITH THE RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE LARGEST FILM STUDIO IN THE UNITED STATES TO BE LOCATING WITHIN OUR COUNTY.
SO THE SPINOFF FROM, FROM THAT, UM, WELL WE WILL FEEL IT IN THE ENTIRE REGION.
SO IF WE'RE CREATING A BOARD OF, UM, FILMMAKERS EDITORS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO HELP STUDENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED IN FILM WITH INTERNSHIPS ALL THE WAY UP TO, UM, EVEN, UH, TEXAS STATE STUDENTS THAT ARE ALSO FILMMAKERS.
SO I'M HAPPY TO BE APPOINTED TO THAT BOARD AND, UM, I'LL BRING YOU UPDATES AS, AS WE PROGRESS.
[10. Presentation regarding Dacy Lane and Bebee Road. ~ Eric Moreno, Project Engineer for Hays County]
RIGHT.NEXT UP WITH AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 10 PRESENTATION REGARDING DA LANE AND BBE ROAD.
UH, ERIC MARINO, GOOD EVEN COUNCIL MAYOR.
I WORK FOR BGE AND I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF HAYES COUNTY.
AND UMM, JUST KIND OF HERE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE OF THE, UM, ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECT GOING ON AT, UH, D LANE AND B BEBE ROAD.
SO LITTLE PROJECT UPDATES, JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THE IT'S A ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT GOING
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FROM TWO, TWO LANES TO FOUR LANES.IT STARTED IN APRIL OF 2021 AND IT'S ESTIMATED COMPLETION IS DECEMBER OF 2023.
UH, TOTAL COST IS ABOUT 19.5 MILLION AND UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF BROUGHT ON BY THE COUNTY KIND OF TO HELP IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH A COUPLE MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA, IT'S KIND OF, UH, A NEEDED THING AND UH, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS IS GOING PRETTY WELL.
UH, LITTLE OVERVIEW OF IT, IT, THE PROJECT LIMITS START FROM BB ROAD AND UH, GO ALL THE WAY TO HILLSIDE TERRACE, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE MILES, A LITTLE OVER THREE MILES.
UH, CURRENTLY WE'RE AT 59% COMPLETE AND UM, ABOUT 50% TIME HAS BEEN USED.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE WILL BE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS SHOULD BE STARTING PHASE TWO OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, WINDY HILL AND BB.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, WINDY HILL AND DESY, UH, RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES ABOUT THE TRAFFICS, UH, THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THIS INTERSECTION, BUT THIS KIND OF REPRESENTS KIND OF SHOWS THE, THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
UH, THIS NEXT PHASE IS THE, A PICTURE OF WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
UM, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE BEING, BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY FOR A FEW MONTHS.
UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY PHASE TWO STEP ONE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THE PROJECT AS WE MOVE FURTHER, THE PROJECTS, UH, AT WINDY HILL AND DAY WILL MOVE FURTHER SOUTH.
SO THE, THE WAY THAT IT WAS PHASED, THE PROJECT WAS PHASED IS WE STARTED KIND OF AT THE HILLSIDE TERRACE AREA AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WORKED ITS WAY BACK, GOING SOUTH TOWARDS BB.
SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF BB AND DCY AND THE CONGESTION THERE AND THE LIGHTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO MANAGE OVER THEIR, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO.
UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S SHOWING THAT WE WILL, PHASE THREE IS WHEN THE ACTUAL INTERSECTION LIGHTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UP, UH, IT'S KIND OF ANTICIPATED AND MADE 20, 23 AND WE DO TAKE, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO HOPEFULLY THESE SIGNALS AND THIS INTERSECTION WILL BE IMPROVED HOPEFULLY BY THE START OF SCHOOL NEXT YEAR.
UM, BUT MAY 20, 23 WOULD KIND OF BE RIGHT, RIGHT AT THE END WHEN SCHOOL'S, UH, BEING RELEASED.
UM, A LOT OF THIS, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION HAS KIND OF BEEN, UH, DRIVEN BY UTILITIES IN THE, IN, IN THE AREA.
SO, UM, WE, IT'S JUST BEEN ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE WE'VE CURRENTLY CONTINUALLY, UH, CONTINU TO PROGRESS DOWN THE, THE DOWN THE ROAD, UH, PARTS OF THE PROJECT, UH, HAVE BEEN IN ADDITION TO LOIS LANE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S DRIVEN OUT THERE, UH, BEFORE IT IT'S, IT'S CLOSE TO MCCORMICK MIDDLE SCHOOL AND IT, IT, IT REACHES OUT TO, UM, FLUGER, UH, RALPH FLUGER ELEMENTARY, THIS, THIS ROAD HAS, IS NOT COMPLETE YET.
IT'S IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMPLETE THE, THE PAVING'S DONE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL SURFACE ON THERE YET.
SO I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF HAD SOME ISSUES WITH, UM, TRAFFIC KIND OF GOING OUT THERE.
WE ENDED UP HAVING TO BLOCK IT WITH BARRICADES, CUZ PEOPLE KEPT KIND OF GOING AROUND THE BARRICADES AND GOING, IT LOOKS NICE AND PRETTY, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT COMPLETE.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS THINGS MOVE ON LATER THIS YEAR THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET THINGS OPEN, UH, BUT JUST LIKE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTION WE'RE HAVING DELAYS WITH MATERIALS AND, AND, AND ISSUES LIKE THAT.
UH, THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF IT.
UH, AGAIN, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN OUT THERE, I THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE SEEN IT.
UH, THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER PART OF THE PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, LEON, LEON AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AND TRYING TO GET ADDED.
UH, WE ARE IN PRETTY MUCH THE FINAL STEPS OF ADDING AN ADDITION TO, UH, SHARED USE PATH THERE ALONG, UH, BB, WHICH IS CLOSE TO CHOPPA MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UH, WE ARE ALSO IN THE FINAL PROCESS OF GETTING ILLUMINATION TO BE ADDED CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALKS, JUST SO, UM, TO IMPROVE THE AREA.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A FEW TIMES AS WELL.
SO, UM, WORKING WITH THE CITY OF KYLE HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN GREAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, I'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, MET, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTOR OUT THERE, WARREN A FEW TIMES THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH YOU, ANYTHING WE'VE NEEDED, THEY'VE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE ACCOMMODATED.
AND THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THESE PICTURES HERE TO SHOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE GETTING ADDED OVER THERE BY, UM, CHOPPA MIDDLE SCHOOL.
WE GOT ANY QUESTIONS
AND THANK YOU LEON FOR BRINGING US, UM, THAT IS MY AREA AND I'M THE ONE THAT ALWAYS BRINGS UP THE SIDEWALKS AND, AND THE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING.
UH, I DID SEE THAT LIKE DURING SUMMER THERE WAS SOME REALLY HEAVY CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AND THE ASPHALT LAYING DOWN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP.
SO THAT'S WHEN I STARTED GETTING INTO EMAILS AND THE PHONE CALLS, HEY, WHAT HAPPENED HERE? YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS CONTINUING ON, SO, UH,
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APPRECIATE THE UPDATE ON THE STREET LIGHTS.SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAY 20, 23 TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, THE ATTORNEY SIGNALS AS WELL.
TO BE ABLE TO TURN, UH, BOTH, UH, EAST AND WEST AND NORTH AND SOUTH, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO, OKAY, SO THAT, SO WE'RE ON TRACK WITH THAT.
THE SIDEWALKS YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED CONSTRUCTING RIGHT AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND YOU'RE WORKING YOUR WAY DOWN TOWARDS CHOPPA.
AS YOU KNOW, YOUR CHOPPA ONLY HAS LIKE A LITTLE SIX FOOT KIND OF SIDEWALK THERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO IS IT JUST GONNA KIND OF MERGE TOGETHER CUZ I KNOW THAT'S DISTRICT, UH, PROPERTY, BUT YOU SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IT WIDE TOWARDS LIKE 12, I THINK IT'S 12 FEET.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S CALLED TO BE TOTALLY RECONSTRUCTED.
SO OH IT OUT LOUD AND IT'S GONNA BE REROUTED AND IT'S GONNA BE, UH, WELL ORIGINALLY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE JUST A 10 FOOT SIDEWALK.
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WE'VE KIND OF COME UP, IT'S GONNA END UP BEING A 12 FOOT SIDEWALK AROUND SUNFLOWER ALL THE WAY TO AMBERWOOD LOOP, WHICH KIND OF WRAPS AROUND GOOD, GOOD TO, UH, AROUND CPA.
AND THEN, SO, UH, THE SIDEWALK QUESTION THERE.
NOW AS IF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DURING SCHOOL HOURS, UH, DURING PICKUP MM-HMM
SO FROM TECHNICALLY IF YOU'RE GOING NORTHBOUND FROM BB TO AMBERWOOD LOOP OR GOING TOWARDS WIND HILL GOING NORTH MM-HMM
IT WON'T BE A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE OR A LEFT TURN LANE.
IT'S JUST GONNA, THEY'LL HAVE FOUR COMPLETE, PRETTY MUCH, PRETTY MUCH FIVE LANES.
THE LEFT, THE LEFT THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN YEAH.
THAT WE HAVE THEIR OWN LANE ON THE, THAT.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT WILL HAVE PRETTY MUCH FIVE LANES AS YOU KEEP GOING TOWARDS HILLSIDE TERRACE.
EVERYTHING GOES DOWN TO, UM, TWO LANE OR JUST A TURN LANE AND THEN REALLY WIDE ONE, ONE LANE'S ON THERE.
SO I KNOW YOU ALREADY CONSTRUCTED ONE SIDE ALREADY AT THE CURVE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THE ADDITIONAL, UM, ROADWAY'S GONNA BE ALL THE WAY TO WHERE IT'S EXTENDED OUT TO AGAIN, FORD LANES, CORRECT? CORRECT.
YES, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY SEEN PEOPLE, STUDENTS WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK ALREADY AND THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE PICKING UP THEIR KIDS AND THAT LIVE ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS AND SO FORTH.
SO IT'S ALREADY STARTING TO BE UTILIZED, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF GOOD TO HEAR, CUZ THAT WAS ONE OF MY THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN UPDATE TO FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE.
SO WHEN I HAVE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONING OR, OR I SEE AT THE SCHOOL PICKING UP MY DAUGHTER AT CHOPPA, YOU KNOW, THEY PULL ME ASIDE SAY, HEY, WHAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE STATUS.
AND I CAN AT LEAST GIVE THEM SOME KIND OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK THAT BY, BY THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR STREET LIGHTS WILL COME UP.
BUT AS WHAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SCHOOL WILL BE OUT.
SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FINISH UP A LOT OF THAT HEAVY WORK.
IT'S ALWAYS, WE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, NAVIGATE AROUND SCHOOL TIMES IN SUMMER AND WE TRY TO PUSH IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN THE SUMMER BECAUSE THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, MEANING LIKE BUS ROUTES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT THE REASON YOU SAW MORE OF THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE BB INTERSECTION AT THE BEGINNING IS IT WAS THE PHASING, YOU KNOW, WAS PHASED THAT WAY.
SO YOU SAW HEAVY, HEAVY BY CHOPPA AND THEN WE MOVED ALL THE WAY TO HILLSIDE TERRACE.
SO RIGHT NOW WINDY HILL AREA GOING TOWARDS HILLSIDE TERRACE IS ALMOST NOT COMPLETE, BUT IT'S, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF WORK THERE, BUT EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA START WORKING OUR WAY BACK TOWARDS CHOPPA MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO THE TIMELINES REALLY, REALLY HELPED.
CUTS WHERE FLUSH KE I'M HE COUNCIL MEMBER TO IS I THINK DID, DID A GOOD JOB COVERING ALL THE BASES.
SO, UM, ALL THAT ASIDE, I WANNA EXTEND A BIG FAT, THANK YOU YOU GUYS, BECAUSE THESE ROADS ARE, ARE MUCH NEEDED FOR UPDATES AND IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S GONNA BE HARD, BUT IN THE FUTURE IT'S GONNA BE A GAME CHANGER.
UM, AND LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO.
JUST LIKE MY NAME IS BE STYLE I'M WITH HAYES COUNTY TRANSPORTATION.
AND UH, I KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN VERY HAPPY ABOUT WHEN WE PUT IN LOWEST LANE IS THAT THAT'S GONNA HELP WHERE THEIR SCHOOL BUSES GOING INTO FLUGER AND GETTING THE STUDENTS OUT OF, UH, SHADY HOLLOW BACK IN THERE BACK IN TWO DAYS.
SO I KNOW WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF POSITIVE COMMENTS FROM, FROM THEM, SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN WORKING OUT.
UH, I THINK WE'RE DOING OKAY WITH THE SCHEDULE.
I THINK WE'RE AT THE END PRODUCT.
I THINK EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA WILL BE, WILL BE HAPPY WITH.
THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR COUNCIL BECAUSE THAT SHOWS RIGHT THERE THAT WE'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WE'RE ALSO ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS AS WELL, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE TYPE OF ROADS, THOSE TYPE OF STREETS AVAILABLE.
SO THAT WAY IT'S SAFE FOR STUDENTS TO CROSS AND IT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR THE BUSES AND SO FORTH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S BAD WEATHER AND SO FORTH.
I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU GUYS HAVE DRIVEN DOWN D LANE, EXISTING LANE.
WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE CONTRACTORS AS WE SEE POTHOLES TO GO AHEAD AND FILL 'EM UP AND SO, SO FORTH.
BUT ONCE WE GET THE NEW ROAD IN, I THINK EVERYBODY WILL BE NICE AND VERY HAPPY WITH.
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YOU BERT.[11. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
I P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER.
WE'LL START OFF WITH LAVETTA PARK.
UH, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, SO I WON'T GO OVER THE DETAILS ON IT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE, UH, DOING A LOT OF WORK IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND THAT'S A GOOD PICTURE OF IT RIGHT THERE.
IT'S STILL, UH, QUITE A BIT OF WAYS FROM, UH, BEING COMPLETED THERE HERE'S MEMORIAL PARK.
YOU PRETTY PROBABLY KNOW THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED DO WE'RE DOING THE PUNCH LIST RIGHT NOW ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, WE'RE CLOSING OUT DOCUMENTS AND UH, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION WILL BE EXPECTED THIS WEEK.
PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, ABOUT 49% COMPLETE.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON QUITE A BIT OF WORK IN THERE ALSO ON THE DIFFERENT, UH, LEVELS AND THE DIFFERENT, UH, PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
SO, UH, WE'RE STILL EXPECTING TO COMPLETE THAT FEBRUARY OF SIXTH OF 2023.
THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD PICTURES OF THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT THERE.
SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, WE'RE ABOUT STILL AT 95, 90 4% COMPLETE.
UH, WE JUST INSTALLED THE GRAVITY LINE FORCE MAIN PAST THE MURRAY PROPERTY.
THAT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY NARROW.
AND UH, WE HAD SOME DEEP TRENCHES IN THERE AND DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF ROOM TO WORK IN.
UM, AND WE ALSO GOT SLOWED DOWN BY THE RAIN A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE NARROWNESS OF THOSE TRENCHES THAT WERE IN THERE.
AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING IN A 18 INCH, UH, GRAVITY LINE AND THEN THEY WERE FALLING IN THAT WITH A 14 INCH FORCE MAIN, ALMOST ON TOP OF THAT, UH, 18 INCH GRAVITY LINE AND OUR CONNECTION THERE AT EDWARDS DRIVE THAT WE WORKED ON THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE, THAT CONNECTION IS COMPLETE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S THE CONNECTION.
AND IT'S PROBABLY BACKFILLED BY TODAY.
TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION PROJECT, A DEWATER FACILITY IS ABOUT 74% COMPLETE.
THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE BULLSEYE PLANT, UH, NUMBER TWO MODIFICATIONS, UH, WHERE WE LOST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BECAUSE OF, UH, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND, AND WE'RE WAITING FOR PE SEE, TO KIND OF DO SOME WORK OUT THERE.
AND ALSO WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF RAIN TOO, OUT THERE AT THE SITE.
UH, THE PUMPS THAT WE WERE WAITING, WAITING FOR, THEY WON'T BE EX UH, DELIVERED TILL MID-SEPTEMBER.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE WAITING ON THE P C FOR THEM TO PROVIDE OUR POWER SUPPLY TO THE WATERING FACILITY.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S A PRETTY, A MASSIVE SITE THERE WITH THE, UH, WATER FACILITY'S GONNA BE.
THAT'S A LOT OF CONCRETE THERE AND IT'S A REALLY EXPENSIVE, UH, STRUCTURE.
THAT'S SITTING OVER THAT, UH, DEWATERING FACILITY TO KEEP IT OUT OF THE WEATHER.
UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME ROAD CLOSURES IN THE AREA.
UH, WE DID START STREET RECONSTRUCTION AT, UH, SCOTT STREET AND WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY TO MYERS AND THE GROSS.
AND WE ALSO GOT SLOWED DOWN BY RUNNING A LITTLE BIT.
UH, THIS S PROJECT HAS BEEN TOUGH FROM THE BEGINNING.
THINK ONE OF MY PREVIOUS MEETINGS FROM WAY BACK WHEN I EXPLAINED TO COUNCIL THAT THE ROUGHEST AREA WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO WORK IN WOULD BE AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF THE WATER LINE WE WERE PUTTING IN THERE, THE WESTWATER LINE AND THE RECLAIMED WATER LINE.
SO WE LITERALLY TORE THE STREETS UP AND, UH, TRYING TO GET THOSE LINES IN.
THEN WE HAD THE DRY SPELL AND THEN WE HAD THE DUST PROBLEMS. AND OF COURSE, THEN WE HAD THE RAIN WHEN WE DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO, AS WE STARTED EXCAVATING THAT'S WHEN THE RAIN CAME, THAT'S REALLY NOT THE GOOD THING TO HAPPEN, BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT THE, SOME OF THE ROADS ARE STARTING TO BE COVERED UP NOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE STARTING TO COVER THOSE ROADS UP WITH BASE DOWNTOWN RELOCATION, OVERHEAD LINES.
UH, PUC IS PRETTY WELL COMPLETE WITH THAT PART OF THEIR, UH, WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO OUT THERE.
UH, WE ARE WAITING FOR SPECTRUM AND FRONTIER TO GET BACK AND, AND, UH, TAKE THEIR LINES DOWN THAT PICTURE THERE ON THE RIGHT IS THE POLE THAT, THAT, UH, STILL HAS A SPECTRUM AND A FRONTIER LINE.
SO WE WE'VE GOTTEN SOME COMP, UH, COMMENTS BACK FROM SPECTRUM AS WHEN THEY THINK THEY CAN GET BACK THERE AND DO THE WORK.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING IN ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MONTHS, UH, BUT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WRAP THIS UP AND THEN FRONTIER, UH, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO PUSH THEM TO HURRY AND FINISH UP AND GET THEIR WORK DONE THERE.
I WANTED TO KINDA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OVERVIEW ON THE QUIET ZONES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU'VE GOT SOME CALLS AND, UH, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO IS HIGHLIGHT THE PHASES THAT WE GO THROUGH TO IMPLEMENT A QUIET ZONE ON THE PINK.
UH, THERE, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL PHASE ONE.
THAT'S WHERE WE DO THE INITIAL PLANNING.
WE LET THERA AND UNION PACIFIC KNOW THAT WE WANT TO DO A QUIET ZONE IN THE AREA.
SO WHAT WE END UP DOING IS ISSUING A NOTICE OF, UM, INTENT.
AND SO WE TELL 'EM, THIS IS WHAT OUR PLAN IS, AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THE PROJECT.
AND THAT TAKES SOME TIME JUST TO GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THAT YELLOW IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT.
SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF TIME INVOLVED WITH THAT.
THEY NEED TO REVIEW THE PLANS, THEY MAKE COMMENTS AND THEY MAKE THEIR CHANGES AS, AND WE
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MAKE THE CHANGES AS THEY WANT.UH, LAST PHASE IS, IS THE, UH, GREEN PART.
THAT'S, WHAT'S CALLED THE NOTICE OF ESTABLISHMENT.
THAT MEANS WE'RE FINISHED WITH THE PROJECT AND WE'RE ASKING UNION PACIFIC TO COME LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE.
WE ALSO HAVE TO DO SOME NOTIFICATIONS ON THAT AND THEY CAN MAKE CHANGES.
THEY CAN MODIFY THINGS AS THEY SEE 'EM OUT THERE.
IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE, THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIX WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY WANT US TO HAVE FIXED.
SO, AS YOU CAN TELL, IT'S A PRETTY COMPLEX LITTLE PROCESS JUST TO STOP YOUR QUIET ZONE.
UH, ACCORDING TO FRA, AS YOU'LL SEE THE NOTE ON THE BOTTOM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S GOT THE GATES, THE BELLS AND THE WHISTLES AND THE HORN BLOWING, THAT'S WHAT THEY FEEL IS THE SAFEST, UH, CROSSING AT A RAILROAD CROSSING.
IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE, YOU DON'T WANT A HIGH RISK VALUE AT YOUR CROSSING.
AND SO IF YOU TRY TO DO ANY IMPROVEMENTS THERE TO IMPLEMENT A QUIET ZONE, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU DO THERE MAKES IT SAFER THAN WHAT THE, THE CURRENT, UH, SAFETY Z NUMBER IS FOR THAT SECTION, FOR THAT CROSSING.
SO WHATEVER WE DO THERE, WE INSTALL MEDIANS.
WE INSTALL STRIPING SIGNS, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SAFER THAN WHAT'S THERE WITH THE BELLS, WITH THE HORNS BLOWING, UH, ON, ON THE NEXT PAGE, WHAT I'VE SHOWN YOU.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL HERE.
I REALIZE THAT IT'S QUITE A BIT TO COVER, BUT YOU SEE, YOU CAN STILL SEE WE'RE DOING PHASE ONE, WORK PHASE TWO, WORK IN PHASE THREE WORK.
UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT'S BEEN RAISED FOR US IS ABOUT THE BROSEN STREET CROSSING.
UM, BACK IN THE 2019, UH, WE WERE ADVISED BY, UH, OUR CONSULTANT TO COMBINE ALL FIVE CROSSINGS.
WE HAD ALREADY DONE A NOTICE OF INTENT FOR JUST THE BROSEN STREET CROSSING, BUT THEY FELT THAT IF WE, IF WE COMBINE AND WE WOULD GET A LOWER RISK VALUE BY COMBINING ALL FIVE CROSSINGS.
NOW WE DIDN'T FINISH THE BROSEN STREET CROSSING UNTIL, UH, 20 EARLY 21, LATE 20, UH, 2021, EARLY 21.
SO THAT WAS ALREADY UNDER THE NEW NOI THAT WE, UH, IMPLEMENTED.
UH, BUT GUESS WHAT? THEY SAW SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE, OR THEY'RE MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'RE DOING THE NOI AGAIN.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER PROCESS THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH, BUT, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON PHASE TWO.
THE PLANS ARE BEING DESIGNED HAVE BEEN DESIGNED, UH, THEY'RE UNDER REVIEWED BY UNIT PACIFIC AND BY THERA, THIS IS FOR CENTER STREET AND SOUTH STREET.
THOSE ARE THE LAST TWO REMAINING CROSSINGS THAT WE NEED TO FIX OPAL LANE ROLLING LANE IN BROON STREET, AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED ARE COMPLETE, BUT WE'LL FIND OUT LATER WHENEVER, UH, WE GET REVIEWED BY F AND UNIT PACIFIC RAILROAD, UH, PHASE THREE.
AND I KNOW YOU DON'T WANNA SEE THIS DATE AT THE BACK END, BUT WE ANTICIPATE DECEMBER OF 20, 23 WILL HAVE EVERYTHING DONE.
AND IN ORDER BY THEN WHOLE POST ROAD, UH, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO WRAP THAT PROJECT UP AS YOU CAN SEE ADDED QUITE A BIT BASE DURING THEIR THIRD LIFT RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY'VE GOT ONE MORE LIFT OF BASE TO PUT IN COUNCIL MEMBER.
ARE WE WAITING ON ANY EASEMENTS FOR THIS ROAD? UH, POST ROAD? YES.
I'M WORKING WITH, UH, LAUREN CONCRETE ON A DRAINAGE ISSUE THAT I'VE GOT THERE.
BUT EASEMENTS ARE NOT AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
NOW NOT AN, NOT AN ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
NO, WE'VE, WE'VE WORKED OUT OUR SOLU, UH, OUR ISSUES WITH BOTH THE CHURCH AND WITH LAUREN.
SO I JUST NEED TO WORK MY FINAL AGREEMENT WITH LAUREN.
SO I'VE GOT A CONTACT THERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT.
IT'S DRAINAGE ON THE DRAIN SIDE.
AND DO WE HAVE KIND OF AN ETA ON THAT? THEY SAID LATE SUMMER, BUT WE'RE IN LATE SUMMER NOW, SO I'M SURE WE'LL SEE IT ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO.
MM-HMM
THEY'RE ABOUT 9% COMPLETE, UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON SUBMITTALS AND, UH, THEY'RE STARTING TO PUT OUT SOME, UH, GETTING SOME FORM WORK READY.
SO THEY START POURING CONCRETE PEN CREEK.
ICEP THIS PROJECT IS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED, BUT WE'RE WAITING ON P C TO GET OUT THERE AND DISCONNECT ALL THE POWER TO THOSE TWO LIST STATIONS.
AND AFTER THAT'S DONE, WE CAN, UH, WRAP IT UP CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. UH, WE DO HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13 THAT PROVIDES THE EASEMENT TO P C SO THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY INSTALL THE POWER TO OUR, UH, UH, DEWATERING FACILITY AT THE, AT THE TREATMENT PLANT.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WITH THE QUIET ZONE, UH, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND DO SOME MORE WORK ON THE PLANS.
UH, IT STARTED OUT AT ABOUT A 20 PLUS PAGE SET OF PLANS.
UH, TODAY WE HAVE 55 PAGES OF PLANS FOR THE TWO PROJECTS YOU WOULD THINK WITH JUST A MEDIAN, STRIPING AND SCIENCE.
IT WOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH INVOLVED, BUT, UH, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S 55 PAGES OF PLANS THAT WE HAD TO PROVIDE FOR BOTH THE TEXT DOT FOR THE FRA AND FOR THE, UH, MUN PACIFIC TO REVIEW.
AND, UH, I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO CHIEF BARN.
THANK YOU, MARY COUNCIL, JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD, UH, TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR CONSENT RELATED, UH, ITEMS. WE HAVE, UM, ITEMS NUMBER 18 AND 19.
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IS AN AGREEMENT WITH WHEELING ENGINEERING.IT OFFERS A CLOUD-BASED SOFTWARE FOR THE VERY NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS, UH, THE TRAFFIC PREEMPTION LIGHT EQUIPMENT.
THIS WILL HELP US, OR THEY'RE THEY'RE.
I GOT THESE FLIPPED BACKWARDS ON THE SLIDES.
THAT'S WHAT, UH, IS GOING TO BE PLACED ON OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEN POLICE AND FIRE VEHICLES ARE RESPONDING TO AN EMERGENCY AND THEY ACTIVATE THE SWITCH THAT WILL SEND A GPS BASED SIGNAL TO THAT INTERSECTION AND WILL CHANGE THE LIGHTS TO GREEN IN THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL OF THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE TO IMPROVE OUR SAFETY AT OUR INTERSECTIONS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND ALL OF OUR CITIZENS ALIKE.
SO THAT'S 18 AND 19 NUMBER 20 AND 21 OR TWO RELATED ITEMS. ALSO, UH, I'M SORRY, LET ME BACK UP ON THOSE ITEMS. THAT ITEM IS BUDGETED, UH, WAS INCLUDED IN OUR MOST RECENT BUDGETING PROCESS.
ADAM 20 AND 21 ARE ALSO RELATED.
THIS IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE AXON, UH, COMPANY THAT SUPPLIES OUR TASERS, OUR BODY WORN CAMERAS AND OUR IN-CAR CAMERAS, AS WELL AS A CLOUD-BASED, UH, STORAGE SYSTEM AND EFILING AND A, A PLETHORA OF, OF OTHER ASSOCIATED, UH, PRODUCTS THAT, THAT COME ALONG WITH IT.
UH, BOTH OF THESE ITEMS WERE INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR BOTH OF THESE.
ANY QUESTIONS, MAYOR? YOU MAY PRO TIM.
YEAH, JUST, UH, THIS ONES FOR JERRY JERRY ON THE HEROES MEMORIAL PARK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE POND, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WEEDING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UH, DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THAT YET? THEY HAVE A CRUISE OUT THERE CURRENTLY ACTIVELY WEEDING AND IMPROVING ON THE LANDSCAPE.
WE HAVE A SIDE VISIT WITH THEM TOMORROW MORNING AND WE'LL BE ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PARK IS READY FOR OUR RIBBON CUTTING ON SUNDAY.
THEY'VE ALSO ENGAGED, UH, A COMPANY TO GO OUT THERE AND HELP, UH, REMOVE A LOT OF RATTLESNAKES THAT THEY'RE ENCOUNTERING ANYONE ELSE.
[VI. Consent Agenda]
RIGHT.NEXT UP IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WANNA PULL? COUNCIL MEMBER FLOSS SCALE.
I ONLY NEED TO PULL AGENDA ITEM, SORRY, 16.
OTHER THAN THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, 12 13, 14, 15 17, 18, 19 20 21 AND 22 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER.
FLOS KALE SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TIM RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA INTO ITS ENTIRETY.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER 16 IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
[VII. Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
AGENDA ITEM 16.FIRST READING APPROVE AND ORDINANCE ADMITTING THE CITY'S APPROVED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2122 BY APPROPRIATING $362,532 AND 10 CENTS AND ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND REDUCING FUND BALANCE IN THE GENERAL FUND.
BY THE SAME AMOUNT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT ONE 10 WEST CENTER STREET AND 1 0 7 VETERANS DRIVE IS AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 23RD AND JULY 28TH, 2022, RESPECTIVELY CUSTOMER FIRST GO.
UM, SO I I'M AWARE THAT WE TOOK A VOTE TO, UM, APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THESE REAL ESTATE, EITHER COMPANY, THE LAND OR BUSINESS OR BUILDINGS.
I WAS NOT AWARE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY IN LIKE ALREADY ALLOCATED.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DOING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR, IS THIS FOR LAST YEAR'S AND OUR NEW ONE GOES INTO EFFECT.
IS IT OCTOBER 1ST? OCTOBER 1ST.
SO WE ARE AMENDING THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE ARE GONNA PULL FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
SO LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH COUNCIL MEMBER.
SEE, IN THE AGENDA BACKUP PACKET, I HAD PROVIDED A BREAKDOWN AS TO HOW WE DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF THE APPROPRIATIONS THAT WE NEEDED TO AMEND THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET.
SO THE TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE WITH CLOSING COSTS FOR BOTH PROPERTIES WAS SLIGHTLY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
WE HAD COUNCIL HAD ALREADY APPROPRIATED 1.1 MILLION FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION ACCOUNT.
IF YOU RECALL, FROM OUR PAST DISCUSSIONS, WE HAD ACQUI ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AT GREG CLARK PARK.
WE HAD APPROPRIATED SOME FUNDS FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANNING THAT LEFT US WITH $638,332 AND 65 CENTS IN THAT ACCOUNT.
SO THAT THOSE FUNDS WERE AVAILABLE TO APPLY TOWARDS THESE TWO PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS.
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SUBTRACT 630, $8,000 IN SOME CHANGE, THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THAT ACCOUNT FROM THE TOTAL COST, WE NEED ANOTHER $362,532 AND 10 CENTS TO BE APPROPRIATED, OR THE CURRENT BUDGET NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO PROVIDE FULL FUNDING FOR THE ACQUISITIONS.FOR THOSE TWO PROPERTIES, ONE AT ONE 10 WEST CENTER STREET AND THE OTHER AT 1 0 7 VETERANS DRIVE.
SO THE BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU COUNCIL IT IS TO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 22, THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO COMPLETE IN SEPTEMBER TO AMEND THAT APPROPRIATION FOR EXPENDITURES BY $362,532 AND 10 CENTS, THAT WOULD GIVE US THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE THESE TWO TRANSACTIONS.
SO I KNOW FOR THE NEW BUDGET, WE HAVE AN AMOUNT SET ASIDE AS WELL, IF, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THESE TWO, UM, REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS ARE ON A TIME SENSITIVE BASIS, BUT IF WE WAITED UNTIL AFTER OCTOBER, COULD WE USE THAT MONEY THAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THESE, THE CITY HAS CLOSED ON THESE TWO PROPERTIES.
SO COUNCIL DID AUTHORIZE AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THOSE TWO DATES THAT THE MAYOR READ, UM, THE DIRECTION TO CL UM, TO STAFF FROM COUNCIL WAS TO CLOSE ON THESE TWO PROPERTIES, WHICH WE DID.
UM, AND NOW WE ARE SETTLING ON THE ACCOUNTS.
SO NORMALLY HOW THE REAL ESTATE PROCESS WORKS IS FUNDS ON THE DAY IT CLOSES.
SO WHAT FUNDS DID WE USE TO CLOSE? SO WE USED THE 630, $8,000 THAT WE HAD IN THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION ACCOUNT.
WE ALSO USE THE CITY COUNCIL'S AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED, AND WE INTERNALLY BORROWED FROM OUR INVESTMENT POOL.
MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.
THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO, RIGHT
[23. Discussion about possible solutions to traffic issues at the Lehman and Bunton Rd intersections. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]
[24. Discussion and possible action on operations cost and installation of Traffic Signals/ Streetlights, to include pedestrian crosswalks at two locations at Bunton Creek Road at Dacy Lane and Lehman Road / Bunton Creek Road Intersection, for improvements in infrastructure and traffic. ~ Michael Tobias, Council Member]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23, UH, AND 24 ARE BOTH RELATED, BUT THEY WERE WORDED DIFFERENT.SO I DIDN'T WANNA TRY TO COMBINE THEM, BUT IF, IF THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS, I FIGURED WE'D BRING 'EM UP TOGETHER.
UH, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO TRAFFIC ISSUES AT THE LAYMAN AND BUTTON ROAD, INTERSECTION AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON OPERATIONS, UH, COSTS AND INSTALLATION OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND STREET LIGHTS TO INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS, TWO LOCATIONS OF BUTTON CREEK ROAD, UH, IN DCY LANE AND LAYMAN ROAD, BUTTON CREEK ROAD INTERSECTION FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRAFFIC.
THESE ITEMS WERE SPONSORED BY COUNCIL AND PARSLEY, UH, CUSTOMER TOBIS.
I BELIEVE MAYOR PRO TIM ALSO HAD MADE A REQUEST INITIALLY BEFORE SEEING THAT THESE WERE ON THERE.
SO SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF COUNCILS WANTING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
WHO'D LIKE TO GO FIRST SAY, BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH.
I THINK WE JUST, I, I REALLY WANTED TO OPEN FOR DISCUSSION THE ISSUES WE'RE HAVING WITH BUNTON AND ROAD AND LEHMAN AND, YOU KNOW, SEE HOW WE CAN HELP ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC.
UM, THE WAIT TIMES THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE FACING.
UM, I KNOW WE BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE LAST MEETING, THE POSSIBILITY OF PURCHASING, MAYBE, UM, SOME, UM, SOME LIGHTS IN ORDER TO ADD TO THIS INTERSECTIONS, WHICH I THINK IT WILL BE A PHENOMENAL IDEA, ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW, HAVING CONSTRUCTION AREA.
IT'S SOMETHING, IF IT, I THINK JERRY MENTIONED IT'S ABOUT $10,000 A MONTH TO RENT THOSE LIGHTS.
I THINK PURCHASING ONE WOULD BE, UM, CERTAINLY A LOT MORE, UM, WE BE CHEAPER A PLAN WITH SOME OPTIONS THAT LEON IS PREPARED TO DISCUSS THE COST FOR THOSE TEMPORARY LIGHTS, THE PORTABLE TEMPORARY LIGHTS, TEMP, YEAH.
IS, HAS GOT UP TO $11,000 PER LIGHT PER MONTH.
I, I, I WOULD LIKE JUST TO SEE HOW WE CAN HELP THE RESIDENTS FROM THE MAYOR COUNCIL LAND, BARBARA CITY ENGINEER DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH, UM, ON, ON THIS SUBJECT.
UH, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING TEMPORARY, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS THERE, BUT, UH, BASED ON WHAT I FOUND OUT, IF WE DID THAT TODAY, WE WOULD BE LEGALLY, WE MAY NOT BE LEGALLY, UH, ABLE TO DO THAT AND NOT BE ENFORCEABLE TO DO ANYTHING THERE WITH, UH, ANY KIND OF CITATIONS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A LEGAL, UH, UH, SETUP.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY FIRST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THE WARRANTS FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND IS THAT WE, UH, AUTHORIZED, UH,
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COB FINLEY.ONCE I GET A PROPOSAL FROM THEM, COBB FINLEY IS THE DESIGNER THAT WAS WORKING ON THE, UH, BUTTON CREEK PROJECT.
THEY HAVE SOME STUDIES AND THE STUDIES THAT THEY DID HAVE SHOWED THAT THE INTERSECTION REALLY DIDN'T QUITE MEET THE WARRANTS, BUT THAT WAS BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED.
SO THAT SCHOOL STARTED, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT IT'LL, IT WILL MEET WARRANTS.
SO ONCE IT MEETS WARRANTS AT THAT POINT, THEN WE COULD, WE SHOULD, IF WE WANNA DO TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WE COULD DO THAT, THAT POINT.
THEN IF WE WANTED TO DO MOVE FURTHER WITH THAT, WE COULD ASK THEM TO PROVIDE A PROPOSAL TO ACTUALLY DO THE DESIGN.
SO WE COULD, UH, INSTALL POSSIBLY WOODEN POLES WITH, UH, THE CABLES AND REGULAR TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
CUZ IF YOU'RE GONNA WAIT FOR THE STEEL POLES, IT'S GONNA BE A GOOD YEAR OR SO JUST FOR THE POLES, AT LEAST JUST TO GET THOSE ON ORDER AND GET 'EM GET 'EM HERE.
SO THE QUICK SOLUTION WOULD BE LET'S GET OUR, UH, STUDY, GET A PROPOSAL TO YOU NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO GET THEM STARTED ON THE, ON THE STUDIES THAT WE NEED.
IF YOU WANNA DO BOTH INTERSECTIONS, WE COULD DO, UH, DAY ALSO ALONG WITH LAYMAN AND LOOK AT BOTH THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY BOTH MEET WARRANTS.
AND IF ONE MEETS WARRANTS, THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE.
IF THE OTHER DOES NOT MEET WARRANTS, THEN WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT MEETS WARRANTS.
BUT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE IMMEDIATELY.
AND ONCE THAT STUDY'S IN, IN OUR HANDS AND WE SEE THAT IT DOES MEET WARRANTS, THEN WE WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
AND TO YOU THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE A TRAFFIC STUDY? I WAS TOLD 30 TO 45 DAYS WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING.
CAUSE THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE COUNTERS OUT THERE AND, UH, WE WOULD, UH, NEED FOR ABOUT A WEEK TO HAVE THOSE COUNTERS OUT THERE TO DETERMINE ALL THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND ALL THE CARS THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT USUALLY RUNS FOR THE 24 HOURS, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEAK TIMES THAT THIS EXACTLY.
UM, WAS THERE EVER A STUDY DONE BEFORE TO WHERE THAT'S, WHERE Y'ALL CAME UP WITH? A CONCLUSION OF A ROUNDABOUT WAS THEY DID AN ANALYSIS OF A ROUNDABOUT AND, UH, I DON'T, WE DIDN'T DO AN ACTUAL, I MEAN WE DID STUDY, BUT IT WAS BASED ON THOSE COUNTS THAT WE HAD BEFORE.
IS THAT, I DUNNO IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
WELL, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING BACK TO WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THE STUDY FOR THAT.
UM, I GUESS I LOOK AT IT FROM, UH, A RESIDENCE POINT OF VIEW AND THE OBVIOUS IT'S BACKED UP EVERY DAY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UH, I REACHED OUT TO THE CHIEF AND I REACHED OUT TO MR. HENDRICKS ABOUT TRYING TO GET, UM, SOME, SOME FORM OF PHYSICAL RELIEF, UH, REAL TIME RELIEF OUT THERE, WHICH I BELIEVE WE DID.
WE HAD OFFICERS OUT THERE DIRECTING TRAFFIC AND WHICH, WHICH HELPED, BUT, UH, WE WERE VERY GRACIOUS TO GET, UH, TWO REPORTS FROM, UM, SERGEANT TRACY VAREK AND THEN ALSO SERGEANT BONE TO GIVE US A BREAKDOWN OF THE TIMES THAT WE HAD HAD.
AND IT WAS PRETTY THOROUGH, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE VERY MUCH, BUT IT SEEMS THAT AFTER EIGHT 30 THERE WAS JUST INEFFECTIVENESS DIRECTIONS WAS JUST BACKED UP CONSTANTLY ALL THE WAY.
SO I GUESS WITH THIS DISCUSSION, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR, FOR AT LEAST A GOOD YEAR NOW IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION.
AND, UM, HAVING THE MONEY OR HAVING THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, UH, TO WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE TO FINALLY IMPLEMENT THESE, THESE TWO AGENDA ITEMS, THESE TWO, TWO, THESE TWO STREET LIGHTS, BECAUSE THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, IF WE HAD A STREETLIGHT AT LAYMAN AND BUNTON AND WE HAD ANOTHER ONE AT BUNTON AND DEY, AND YOU HAVE THEM IN SYNC WITH PHIL ANEMA AND ALL THE WAY UP TO THE HIGHWAY, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, I THINK IT'S FIVE OUTLETS.
YOU HAVE THE LAYMAN GOING LEFT.
YOU GO UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN YOU HAVE ANOTHER IN SYNC GOING UP DEY.
SO THAT'S TWO, THEN YOU HAVEA TURNING LEFT AND TURN IN, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU GO ALL THE WAY UP.
SO THERE'S FIVE OUTLETS THAT YOU COULD BE ABLE TO GET TRAFFIC TO GO AND SPLIT UP IF WE HAD IT IN SEEK WITHIN SPECIFIC TIMES OF THE DAY, WHICH COULD ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC.
AND IT ALSO BRINGS UP THE AGENDA ITEM THAT CHIEF HAD ABOUT THE STREET LIGHTS, ABOUT HAVING THE SIGNALS, BEING ABLE TO TURN GREEN IN EMERGENCIES, WELL, DRIVING THAT.
AND I, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT MAYOR PRO TIM CAME OUT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HE FINALLY CAME OUT AND SAID, HEY, I'M STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
BS, IT'S BAD AS I'M SO GLAD YOU CAME OUT HERE TO SEE ME.
BUT HE, HE ACTUALLY CAME OUT AND SAW THAT HOW BAD IT'S BEEN.
AND HE SAW THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF SOLUTION, WHICH I APPRECIATE THAT MAYOR.
PPRO ROBERT REO WHO GOING OUT THERE AND, AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
CUZ IF WE HAVE A CRITICAL INCIDENT, WE HAVE A SITUATION AT SOUTH LAKE RANCH WHERE WE HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY.
WE CAN'T GET OUR FIRST RESPONDERS OUT THERE.
HEAVEN FORBID WE HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHETHER WE HAVE, UH, SOME KIND OF EMERGENCY
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OR A SITUATION GOING ON RIGHT AT THAT PEAK TIME OF SCHOOL.AND AFTER SCHOOL, UH, WE GOTTA BE ABLE TO GET THOSE EMERGENCY VEHICLES THROUGH THERE AND TO BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH.
SO IT, IT IT'S TO THE POINT NOW WHERE I'M JUST FEELING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE FUNDING.
AND FINALLY, JUST GO AHEAD AND PULL IN THE TRIGGER ON THIS AND SEEING ABOUT GETTING THESE LIGHTS IN THERE, CUZ IT'S JUST A LARGE REQUEST FROM THE RESIDENTS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT PROSPECTS NOW DIDN'T WE HAVE A, AN ITEM TO WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE TO USE FUNDS FOR EASTSIDE PROJECTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING THAT WE HAD FROM, UM, TOLL BROTHERS, THE TOLL BROTHERS, WE ALLOCATED SOME FUNDS AVAILABLE TO WHERE WE COULD USE THAT IN, IN, IN FUTURE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE OR EAST SIDE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
COULD WE BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING IF POSSIBLE OR EARMARK SOME OF THAT SEED MONEY TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT IF IT COMES BACK TO WHERE, UH, LEON BAR YOUR, THE TRAFFIC STUDY CONCLUDES THAT WE COULD BE ABLE TO PUT A COUPLE LIGHTS THERE, COULD WE BE ABLE TO USE SOME OF THAT SEED MONEY AS THAT, UH, FUNDING SOURCE INSTEAD OF USING THE GENERAL FUND, WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE SOURCES OF FUNDING TO, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE WHATEVER THE TRAFFIC STUDY WARRANTS TO PUT THERE.
SO I, I THINK WE PROCEED WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND WHILE WE'RE IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE MAKE PLANS TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE TEMPORARY WOODEN POLE LIGHTS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS.
THAT, THAT WOULD REALLY HELP BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE REALLY, UM, MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
AND, AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE BOND GOES THROUGH, YES, IT'S PROBABLY ON THAT, UH, FOR AS FAR AS REDEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THE RESIDENTS NEEDED LIKE SIX YEARS AGO.
SO THAT'S JUST WHY IT'S JUST SO URGENT FOR ME.
AND I KNOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AND I'VE TALKED TO MS. FLOS KALE MANY, MANY TIMES, AND SHE HAS THE SAME CONCERNS FOR HER RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN BUNTON CREEK IN DISTRICT TWO, THAT WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND SOME IMMEDIATE RELIEF.
SO I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR ON THIS.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THE OTHER TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, BUT, UH, IT'S NOT JUST DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, UH, SCHOOL TRAFFIC DURING THE DAY, IT'S ALSO THE TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM WORK AS WELL IN THE EVENING.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DO THE MORNING TRAFFIC YET, BUT I IMAGINE THAT'S JUST AS BAD FOR COMMUTERS GOING OUT OF TOWN, UM, TO WORK.
BUT COMING IN, IN THE, THE AFTERNOON I GOT THERE AND I WAITED AT THAT INTERSECTION FOREVER, BUT THEN IT STARTED RAINING.
SO IT EVEN GOT WORSE WHEN YOU HAVE IMPLEMENT WEATHER, IT'S, IT'S JUST GONNA ADD TO THE DELAYS AND THE FRUSTRATION THERE.
UH, BUT YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS PRETTY BAD, BUT IT WASN'T DURING SCHOOL 32 MINUTES.
IT WASN'T JUST THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC IT'S AFTERWARDS, IT'S THE AFTERNOON TRAFFIC PEOPLE COMING IN, TRYING TO GET TO THEIR HOMES.
THAT COMMUTE SHOULDN'T BE A 25 MINUTE COMMUTE.
IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST 10 MINUTES OF THE MOST.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ALLEVIATE THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND HELPFUL.
SO I, I HAVE A, I HAVE A COUPLE THOUGHTS GOING TO THE TEMPORARY SIGNALS, THE WOOD POLE, THE FUNDING.
UM, SO LET'S SEE IF I CAN SAY 'EM ONE AT A TIME.
SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, THE MONEY FROM THE TOLL BROTHER STEEL, THAT MONEY WAS INCLUDED IN THEIR, UM, THAT MONEY COMES OUT WHEN THEY ISSUE PID BONDS AND THE PID BONDS DON'T GET ISSUED UNTIL THEY'RE BASICALLY AT THE POINT OF BUILDING OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED.
SO I WOULD NOT SEE THAT AS A RELIABLE SOURCE OF MONEY PRESENTLY TO SOLVE AN IMMEDIATE ISSUE.
IT'S MUCH MORE OF A TWO TO THREE YEAR KIND OF WINDOW.
SO LIKE, WE'RE JUST NOW DOING SOME OF THE SIX CREEK PID BONDS.
YOU KNOW, THOSE AGREEMENTS CAME OUT IN 2015.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S MORE OF LIKE A LONG TERM, GOOD NEGOTIATION, BUT YOU CAN'T RELY ON IT LIKE NECESSARILY IN THIS BUDGET YEAR.
UH, MY OTHER ACTUAL QUESTION IS, AGAIN, I KEEP COMING UP WITH THIS, THESE BOND PROCEEDS, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE? AND I, I WISH STEPHANIE WAS HERE.
MAYBE SHE COULD HELP, BUT, UH, PAIGE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE, UM, BOND PROCEEDS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE DOING, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT INTERSECTION, BUT IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING IMMEDIATE, LIKE A TEMPORARY LIGHT, UH, IF THE BOND PASSED IN NOVEMBER, COULD WE APPLY BOND PROCEEDS, UH, TO, TO THAT MAYOR COUNCIL PAGE SIGNS FOR THE RECORD? THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A QUESTION I'M CALLING ABOUT AND I CAN ANSWER ACCURATELY, BUT I CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER FROM BON.
THAT, YEAH, THAT'D BE ONE BECAUSE I COULD SEE HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY PUT THAT INTO A FUNDING
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STRATEGY, NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO DO RIGHT AWAY, BUT, UM, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD SOURCE TO HELP US, UH, FUND THAT IF WE COULD.UH, I THINK IF THE, I THINK THE POLLS ALMOST CERTAINLY WE COULD, UH, BUT THE ACTUAL, UM, MOVEABLE LIGHTS, THE ONES THAT ARE TRULY TEMPORARY THAT YOU CAN MOVE AROUND.
THAT THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION I WOULD LOVE TO GET THE ANSWER TO AS WELL, IF WE COULD USE BOND PROCEEDS FOR THAT.
UH, AND THEN I JUST, I DID WANT TO VISIT WITH THE, ON THE IDEA OF THE TEMPORARY METAL ON TRAILER LIGHTS THAT YOU CAN MOVE AROUND.
I, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND I WAS A BIG FAN OF THE IDEA OF ACQUIRING THOSE.
AND I, I DON'T REALLY RECALL WHY WE NEVER DID AT THE TIME.
UH, BUT THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR ONLY OPTION WHEN THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE NEED TRAFFIC GETS DISRUPTED OR SCHOOL STARTS AND THERE'S, THIS IS THAT OUR ONLY OPTION IS TO SEND OFFICERS OUT THERE.
UH, AND THAT'S ALSO NOT A GOOD USE OF FUNDS, BUT I, I JUST KEEP THINKING ABOUT MAN, IF WE HAD THOSE A SET, A GOOD SET OF TEMPORARY SIGNALS, WE COULD ROLL THOSE THINGS OUT AND TIME THEM SYNC THEM UP AND USE THEM.
AND THEN, AND THEN WHEN WE'RE DONE THERE, THEN WE CAN MOVE THEM SOMEPLACE ELSE.
OR IF THERE'S AN EVENT, I AGREE WHERE WE'RE WANTING TO REROUTE TRAFFIC, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, JUST, THERE'S JUST A TON OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
AND I, I THINK, ESPECIALLY AS IF IT'S $11,000 A MONTH AND IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PURCHASE, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT, THAT WE SHOULD ACQUIRE THOSE.
CUZ WE COULD USE THOSE FOR 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 YEARS TIME CONSISTENTLY, YOU KNOW, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AT DIFFERENT SPOTS.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER GOING AHEAD AND STARTING THAT PROCESS, DOES, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE LEAD TIME MIGHT BE ON ACQUIRING ONE OF, OF THOSE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEAD TIME IS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT THE COST FOR THOSE LIGHTS.
LAST WE CHECKED WAS ABOUT $150,000 PER LIGHT WITH, UH, $10,000 PER LIGHT TO RENT PER MONTH.
YOU HAVE TO USE THEM A LOT, BUT WE CAN BRING IT BACK.
I, BUT WE CAN ALSO WORK ON A CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THOSE TEMPORARY LIGHTS VERY QUICKLY.
IF WE NEED TO ON A RENTAL BASIS, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO, IF WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE, LIKE THE MAYOR SUGGESTING WE COULD USE THEM AROUND THE CITY AND LET'S SAY WE COULD TEST THEM OUT, MAYBE AT THE SILVERADO ONE 50, JUST, JUST IF WE WANTED TO, JUST TO GET, JUST TO START GETTING AN IDEA HOW THE TRAFFIC FLOWS.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF JUST SAYING, OKAY, WELL LET'S JUST PUT THESE TEMPORARY LIGHTS OUT THERE.
WE SEE HOW THE TRAFFIC PATTERN WORKS.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S PUT SOME TEMPORARY LIGHTS THERE AND GET MORE OF A REAL TIME DATA, REAL TIME INFORMATION ABOUT IF WE PUT LIGHTS HERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT PERMANENT, WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE HOW EASILY THE FLOW WOULD GO AND WE CAN SYNC IT WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO WHERE WE CAN TURN LIKE WE DID AT DAY SEEM BEBE.
IT WAS A BIG FIGHT WHEN WE GOT THESE, BUT WHEN THE RESIDENTS FINALLY STARTED TO GET USED TO THEM, IT REALLY PAID A BIG DIFFERENCE WHEN WE HAD THAT HUGE MESS WITH THE ROUNDABOUT.
CUZ THAT WAS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING ROAD RAGE INCIDENTS.
WE HAD PEOPLE PULLING OVER STARTING FIGHTS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST SO STUCK IN THAT TRAFFIC FRUSTRATED.
AND, AND THIS WAS JUST A WAY TO BE ABLE TO RELIEVE IT.
EVEN IF IT WAS STREET LIGHTS IS STILL HELP THE FLOW.
SO I, I WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL, BUT GOING BACK TO HERE, IF YOU, IF THE CITY AND THE ADMINISTRATORS ARE FINALLY LOOKING AT MAYBE A PERMANENT SOLUTION, UH, I REALLY WOULD SUPPORT THAT WHOLE HARLEY WITH, WITH WHATEVER EFFORT YOU CAN GIVE.
AND THEN THAT THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THE WOODEN POLES STRUNG OUT WITH LIGHTS, IF THAT'S TRULY A TEMPORARY PROPOSAL THEN FINE.
BUT I, I, I WANT TO SEE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES IN ON THE EAST SIDE OF I 35 AS WELL AS THE WEST SIDE OF I 35 BE TOPNOTCH INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I, I STRUGGLE STRINGING LIGHTS ACROSS WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH BETTER, MORE PERMANENT WAYS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF THERE BEING DELAYS, BUT I'M JUST WHAT I'M THINKING IS LIKE ALL IN MY MIND, THE, THE ROUNDABOUT IS THE MOST COMPLETE, UH, BEST LONG TERM SOLUTION.
BUT IF THE DESIRE OF THE COUNCILS TO TAKE THAT OFF THE, UH, THE PLATE, THEN I WOULD WANT TO PUT, UH, POWDER CODED BLACK POWDER, CODED NICE, UH, STREET LIGHTS OUT THERE.
THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL TO SEE.
BUT IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN, THEN THE REGULAR, UH, STEEL STREET LIGHTS AND THEN WAY DOWN THE LIST IS THIS IDEA OF PUTTING IN, UH, WOODEN POLES WITH STR STRUNG OUT LIGHTS.
THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANNA SEE FOR EAST KYLE.
SO FOR, YOU KNOW, OR FOR ANY, ANY PART OF KYLE, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT ANYWHERE.
SO IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT THESE INTERSECTIONS ARE EAST.
SO MY CONCERN IS IF WE GO WITH THIS ROUTE OF SAYING, BECAUSE,
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YOU KNOW, TIME IS AN ISSUE WE'RE GONNA SELL OURSELVES SHORT.AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST GONNA BE WHAT IT IS OUT.
THERE IS SOME KIND OF RATTY LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WOODEN POLES WITH, WITH STRUNG OUT LIGHTS OVER, YOU KNOW, TAKING US BACK 50 YEARS.
AND THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S NOT THE MESSAGE THAT I WANNA SEND TO ANY INTERSECTION.
SO MY QUESTION IS TO SOMEONE I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S LIKE, IS, IS THAT, IS THAT THE PATH THAT WE'RE GOING HERE? I, IF WE DON'T, IF ARE, ARE WE PROPOSING TO GO DOWN A PATH OF ACTUALLY PUTTING IN WOODEN POLES WITH STRING LIGHTS OUT THERE AND THAT BEING THE SOLUTION THAT IS OUT THERE FOR YEARS TO COME WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.
I WOULD SAY THAT WE FIRST START WITH A TRAFFIC STUDY.
SO I THINK DOING THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IF WE DID DO POLLS, IT WOULD BE TEMPORARY.
IF THE BONDS PASS, THEN WE WOULD, UH, GO TO CONSTRUCTION ARCHITECTURE, I MEAN, ARCHITECTURE, CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN GO FROM THERE AND REDESIGN IT.
BUT NO, I THINK THE, UH, STRING LIGHTS ARE JUST GONNA BE TEMPORARY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING FROM YOU, LEON, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
CAUSE, UH, IT'S JUST, WE HAVE A LIMITED RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, WE WOULD TRY TO AVOID HAVING TO GET ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF AWAY THAT JUST SLOWS US DOWN.
AND SO WHENEVER THE NEW ROADS COME IN, THERE WILL BE RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION.
THAT'S WHERE WE'LL PUT THE NEW SIGNALS.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE PRODUCT MANAGER FOR THE LEMON ROAD PROJECT, TRY IT REALLY HARD TO PUT SOME FOUNDATIONS IN THERE.
SO WE COULD, BECAUSE SHE ANTICIPATED SOMEDAY DAY, WE'D HAVE A NEED FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
SHE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME WITH UTILITIES.
SO THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO THAT PROBABLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT WON, WON'T THAT BE THE SAME ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S WOODEN POLES OR METAL POLES, IT DEPENDS ON IF WE'RE GONNA WIDEN THE ROAD, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO TAKE YOU OUT THE WOODEN POLES ANYWAY AND PUT IN NEW ONES AT THAT POINT.
THAT'S WHEN WE PUT IN NICER ONES.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE AFTER YOU, THE TRAFFIC STUDY GETS DONE? LET ME, LET ME, UH, STANLEY FEES IS WITH COBB FINLEY.
LET ME, UH, I THINK HE'S HEARD THE CONCERNS.
SO LET ME ASK HIM TO COME UP AND GIVE YOU SOME BETTER INFORMATION ON, ON WHAT, WHAT HIS PLANS MIGHT BE FOR THAT GOOD EVENING.
MARRIED COUNSEL STANLEY FEES WITH KYLE PENLEY AND ASSOCIATES, UH, AS LEON WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, WE HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT OUR INITIAL LOOK AT THIS, UH, FIRST THING WE REALLY NEED TO DO, AS LEON SAID, WE NEED TO GET A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE.
AND THEN BASED ON THAT, THAT'LL TELL US AS YOU KNOW, YES OR NO, WE NEED TO PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN OR, OR IT MEETS THE WARRANTS.
AND WITH THAT TIMELINE, IF WE COME BACK ON THE 20TH WITH A PROPOSAL FOR DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY, WE'LL GET THAT DONE WITHIN SAY 45 DAYS, GET SOME RESULTS TO YOU.
AND THEN BASED ON THAT, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WORKING ON A SINGLE DESIGN THAT WILL TAKE US ROUGHLY TWO MONTHS.
SO IF YOU THINK TIMELINE STARTING ON THE STUDY ON THE 20TH OR THE SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE WOULD HAVE THE RESULTS TO YOU BY 1ST OF DECEMBER, SAY, AND THEN START WITH THE DESIGN.
BY THAT TIME YOU WOULD ALREADY KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOUR ROAD BONDS WOULD'VE PASSED.
AND SO WE COULD UTILIZE THAT INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD WITH DESIGN, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DOING A TEMPORARY PULSE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, WE CAN DO IT OPTIONS EITHER WAY.
I WAS GONNA SAY BECAUSE, UH, AFTER THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC STUDY, IF IT SHOWS THAT WE DO NEED 'EM, WE'LL BRING IN CONTEMPORARY ONES TILL WE GET THE POST.
BUT IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING IN REAL TIME IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
CAUSE RESIDENTS NEED THE RELIEF NOW, RIGHT? NOT, NOT A YEAR FROM NOW OR AFTER THE BONDS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON IT AS A DIAS NOW.
AND WE ALSO WORKING WITH HAYES COUNTY, WE HAD ANOTHER PROJECT WITH THE METAL POLES AND THE LONG LEAD TIME WITH THOSE PROJECTS AND WHAT HAYES COUNTY DID TO HELP ACCELERATE THE PROJECTS WAS ONCE WE DETERMINED THE SIZE POLES THAT WE NEEDED DURING OUR DESIGN PHASE, THEY WENT AHEAD AND TOOK THAT INFORMATION AND PUT IT OUT TO BID SO THEY COULD BUY THE POLES AT THAT POINT IN TIME BEFORE THE ROAD PROJECT GOT FINISHED.
AND THEN WHEN THE CONTRACTOR COMES IN ON BOARD, THEY'RE READY TO BUILD THE PROJECT COUNTY ALREADY HAD THE POLES IN HAND.
THEN THERE WAS NO DELAY AT ALL AT GETTING THE SIGNALS PUT UP.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE COULD DO WITH CITY OF CO GUESS FOR FLOURISH.
UM, THIS COMMENT IS MORE FOR, UM, JERRY.
UM, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY WORRIED ABOUT CITATIONS BEING NECESSARY.
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WHAT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON AS A COUNCIL IS GIVING SOME RELIEF TO THAT AREA.UM, I, IT WOULD BE MY PERSONAL, UM, THOUGHT TO GO AHEAD AND JUST GET SOME TEMPORARY ONES OUT THERE.
I, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO WAIT FOR A STUDY.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUS EVEN WITHOUT A STUDY, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THERE'S ISSUES THERE.
AND SO IF WE CAN PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE EVEN JUST TEMPORARILY, AND THEN I'VE EVEN DURING THE BUDGET, I'VE SPOKEN OUT ABOUT BEING A PROPONENT FOR BUYING SOME STOPLIGHTS LONG TERM BECAUSE THE CITY IS JUST GROWING SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE, THE COST IS 150,000.
IS THAT FOR ONE OR FOR BOTH? ONE FOR ONE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WHEN WE TALK LIKE THAT, WE SHOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE 300,000.
UM, IT'S GOTTA BE THREE, CAUSE IT'S A THREEWAY INTERSECTION FOUR 50,000.
SO AGAIN, BUY 'EM IN TWOS BECAUSE TWOS IS ALWAYS GONNA BE WHAT WE NEED.
SO IF WE BUY LIKE SIX OF THEM, THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR FOUR OR THREE.
BUT MY WHOLE POINT IS I THINK COLLECTIVELY WE'VE ALL SAID, WE NEED TO DO THIS RIGHT AWAY RIGHT NOW.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH I APPRECIATE THE STUDY AND THE STUDY IS GONNA COME AND THIS, WE NEED IT.
UM, I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR, THE RESIDENTS AND PROVIDING THEM SOME, SOME RELIEF.
I KNOW THE BUDGET DOES HAVE SOME MONEY FOR THESE TEMPORARY STOPLIGHTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA CHANGE THAT TO PURCHASING SOME OF THEM.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK COLLECTIVELY, WE ALL AGREE THAT IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY, UM, TO PURCHASE SOME SO WE CAN USE 'EM THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT PARTS I KNOW ON, ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S GONNA BE PROBABLY SOME MAJOR CONSTRUCTION WHEN WE DO THE IDEN BI THE BYPASS.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT TOLL BROTHERS AREAS IS PROBABLY THEY'RE GONNA EXPECT SOME KIND OF, UM, LIGHTS AND, AND TRAFFIC CONTROL AS WELL.
SO I THINK LONG TERM FOR THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH IT COSTS A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE SHOULD BUY THE, THE PERMANENT ONES, BUT FOR AN IS IMMEDIATE SOLUTION.
I THINK WE NEED TO PLACE SOME OUT THERE PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.
AND IF ANYBODY DISAGREES I'M OKAY.
I JUST SAT AND I LISTENED TO EVERYBODY AND IT SOUNDS LIKE COLLECTIVELY, WE WANNA GIVE THOSE PEOPLE SOME RELIEF YESTERDAY.
I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCIL FORGI.
I WANNA GIVE 'EM RELIEF YESTERDAY ON, UM, THE ONLY THING I I WANNA DO IS GET THE TRAFFIC STUDY, CUZ I WANT THE PERMANENT LIGHTS IN WHETHER IT'S STRING LIGHTS OR, AND I'M THINKING THE STRING LIGHTS, UH, IT, WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED THREE LIGHTS UP THERE, TEMPORARY LIGHTS BECAUSE IT'S A THREEWAY INTERSECTION.
YOU NEED ONE FROM THE WEST SIDE, EAST SIDE AND FROM THE NORTH SIDE.
SO IT'D HAVE TO BE, IT'D BE $450,000.
IF WE PURCHASED THEM, YOU'D HAVE TO BUY 'EM IN THREES.
BUT I REALLY THINK THAT, UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS WARRANTED SO WE CAN GET AT LEAST THE STREET LIGHT, THE STRING STREET LIGHTS DONE.
SO I I'M, I'M NOT REAL HAPPY HAVING TO WAIT, UH, AS A COUNCIL FOR THAT STUDY, BUT I KNOW THE STUDY'S VERY IMPORTANT SO WE CAN GET THE PERMANENT FIX IN THERE.
SO, UM, I THINK DOING THE STUDY IS PROBABLY THE, THE SMARTEST PLAY TO DO.
UM, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LIGHTS UP YESTERDAY, BUT I KNOW THE STUDY'S IMPORTANT.
SO DOING THE STUDY IS IMPORTANT, BUT AS SOON AS THE STUDY'S DONE, I WANNA SEE US DO SOMETHING AS A CITY QUICKLY, MAKING SURE WE GET THOSE LIGHTS UP, CANCER PARSLEY.
UM, SO YEAH, I THINK THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE, WE NEED TO SHOW SOME SENSE OF URGENCY FOR THE RESIDENT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, FOR BONTON CREEK ROAD AND DES LANE AND THEN ONE FOR LEHMAN ROAD IN BONTON CREEK ROAD.
AND ALSO TO, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO DO A DIFFERENT MOTION FOR THEM, UH, TO DIRECT STAFF, TO LOOK INTO PURCHASING THREE OF THE TEMPORARY LIGHTS.
CAN WE DO FOUR, FOUR MAKE SENSE, FOUR TEMPORARY LIGHTS WE USE 'EM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT WOULD BE TWO AND TWO, FOUR.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, SECONDED BY COUNCIL RIZZO THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO, UH, DO A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR, UH, BUNTON AND LAYMAN AS WELL AS D AND BUTTON.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? BUTTON CREEK? NO, SORRY.
BUNTON AND CREEK ROAD AND D LANE AND DEMON ROAD IN BUNTON CREEK.
AND THEN SECOND TO, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO BRING UP BACK OPTIONS FOR PURCHASING TEMPORARY TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
UM, UP TO FOUR, I BELIEVE IS THE NUMBER, BUT I THINK WE'LL GET OPTIONS CUZ I THINK THEY COME IN, LIKE I'VE LOOKED AT 'EM BACK IN THE DAY AND THERE'S LIKE, THEY HAVE LIKE A MAIN ONE AND THEN THEY HAVE LIKE, UH, SECONDARY LIGHTS THAT COME IN THAT ARE SMALLER THAT ARE SO IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT AND THEY'RE OPTIONS.
YOU KNOW, MY ONLY, UH, UH, THOUGHT ON IT IS, UH, I JUST, I DO THINK THAT IT'S GOOD TO INVEST IN THOSE AS OPPOSED TO IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE PUTTING OUR FOCUS IN ONE PATH OR THE OTHER, BUT SOME OF IT DEPENDS ON LEAD TIME.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET A STRING LIGHT SITUATION OUT THERE? HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THE TEMPORARY PORTABLE LIGHTS WE'LL CALL 'EM, UH, OUT THERE AND IF THERE'S
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ONE FASTER THAN THE OTHER, MAYBE THAT'S A PATH, BUT I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT 10 ROADS THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO TRY TO START CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ON HOW GREAT WOULD THOSE SIGNALS THAT THE PORTABLE LIGHTS BE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THEM AROUND FROM PROJECT TO PROJECTS? I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S MONEY WE, THAT WOULD BE POORLY SPENT, BUT AGAIN, THE BIG QUESTION WOULD BE EVEN IF WE'RE COMMITTED TO BUYING THEM FROM THE GENERAL FUND, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE, UH, TO, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR STAFF TO GET AN ANSWER ON THIS, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UH, IF THE BONDS PASS BECAUSE THESE LIGHTS ARE GONNA BE MOVING AROUND ALL OVER THESE ROAD PROJECTS, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO USE, UH, THE ROAD BOND, IF THE, IF ASSUMING IT PASSES TO FUND IT BECAUSE THAT REALLY WOULD HELP SOLVE THE FUNDING ISSUE AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET WHAT WE NEED, UH, AND, AND ACTUALLY JUST BE ABLE TO BORROW FOR IT AS WELL AS A PART OF THIS OVERALL RHODE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[25. Discussion and Possible Action Regarding the City's Plan to Handle Safety Issues from Low Hanging Lines, to Include Frontier Communication's Phone Lines, Located on 150 East. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 25 DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY'S PLAN TO HANDLE SAFETY ISSUES FROM LOW, UH, HANGING LINES, UH, TO INCLUDE FRONTIER COMMUNICATIONS PHONE LINES LOCATED ON ONE 50 EAST COUNCIL FLOORS.UM, I HAD SOME BACKUP MATERIAL THAT I WANTED TO SHOW AS FAR AS PICTURES.
UM, IF WE COULD HAVE THOSE UP PLEASE.
SO, UM, CAN EVERYBODY ELSE SEE THAT WE COULD SEE IT, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE, YEAH, THEY, I THINK THEY COULD SEE IT ON THESE UP HERE.
UM, SO LET'S JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
THERE, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT THAT OCCURRED APPROXIMATELY AT SIX TO 6:30 AM IN THE MORNING, UM, WHICH WAS AN HOUR BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED.
SO THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE SEMI ENTANGLED IN LOW HANGING WIRES, WHICH I PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED THE CITY TO REVIEW TO BE SURE THE LINES ARE IN ORDER WITH THE CITY'S ORDINANCE.
SO THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, IT SHOWS THE SAME, SAME SITUATION, THE WIRES FROM A DIFFERENT VIEW, RIGHT.
IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT TWO WAYS PICTURE, UM, OH, THESE ARE KINDA OUTTA ORDER.
SO THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, UM, SHOWS A SEMI AFTER THE I, THE, THE WIRES WERE CUT AND, UH, THE EXTENSIVE DAMAGE TO THE TOP OF THE TRAILER.
THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS KIND OF OUTTA ORDER, BUT THIS PICTURE SHOWS THE WIRES LAYING ON THE GROUND AFTER THE INCIDENT.
UM, I THINK IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A CITY, BUT THEY HAD TO, UM, CUT THE WIRES.
SO THAT IS PICTURE NUMBER THREE THAT I HAD THIS PICTURE SHOWS A GLIMPSE OF THE TRAFFIC BACKED UP ON ONE 50, UM, AND SAYS SINCE OLD POST ROAD IS CLOSED, THE MAIN ACC, UH, AS THE MAIN ACCESS THE RESIDENTS HAD TO GET AROUND THIS MI, UM, THE ONLY ACCESS THEY HAD WAS TO CUT THROUGH TOBIAS ELEMENTARY DRIVE THROUGH BROOKSIDE OR CREEKSIDE AND EXIT VIA THE FOUR SEASON SUBDIVISION.
AND THEY, SO THE VERY LAST ONE WE HAVE IS THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT, UM, WHICH IS THE WIRES LANE ON THE GROUND.
AFTER THE ACCIDENT, UH, WHILE FRONTIER WAS FIXING THE OVERHEAD WIRES, THEY CUT OFF ACCESS TO THE ONLY ENTRANCE SLASH EXIT TO BROOKSIDE.
UM, ALSO KNOWN AS CREEKSIDE, GIVING THE RESIDENTS TWO CHOICES TO ACCESS 1 51.
THEY COULD TURN AROUND AND GO THROUGH FOUR SEASONS OR TWO.
THEY COULD CUT THROUGH TOBY ELEMENTARY.
MY OBSERVATIONS WAS THE LATTER OF THE TWO.
UM, ADDITIONALLY THIS ISSUE CAUSED, UM, A COMPLETE INCONVENIENCE, I WOULD SAY FOR A SOLID 24 TO, YOU KNOW, 30 HOURS.
SO MY FIRST QUESTION TO STAFF, I'M NOT SURE WHO THAT'S GONNA BE IS, ARE THESE LINES HEIGHT COMPLIANT WITH THE CITY'S ORDINANCE? ANYBODY, ANYBODY? YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS LIKE THE THIRD TIME I BROUGHT THESE BACK.
AND SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO WAS WORKING ON THIS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HARPER OR NOT.
AND I DON'T THINK HE WAS BORN YET EITHER.
I, I JUST, I DON'T, THEY, I SEE, THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE THEY, THEY REALLY WEREN'T THAT INVOLVED.
SO JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE CITY ORDINANCE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE FACT THAT THEY STRUCK THE TOP OF THAT 18 WHEELER WOULD MEAN THAT THEY WERE BELOW ANY ORDINANCE OR ANY STATE LAW THAT THAT'S IN PLACE.
IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PARTICULAR 18 WHEELER DRIVER MISSED HIS TURN INTO THE BUSINESS PARKING LOT AND THEN PROCEEDED TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE STREET AND DECIDED TO OBVIOUSLY TURN AROUND, TO TRY TO MAKE IT BACK TO HIS ORIGINAL DESTINATION.
OBVIOUSLY THE FACT THAT THOSE, THOSE WIRES AT THAT TIME WERE LOW ENOUGH TO STRIKE HIS VEHICLE WERE
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LOWER THAN ANYBODY WOULD ALLOW INCLUDING STATE LAW.UM, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER HE WAS RECKLESS DRIVING OR DRIVING TOO FAST OR WHATNOT.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S PARTICULARLY THE CASE.
THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW MUCH DAMAGE HE DID TO HIS OWN VEHICLE AND HOW STRONG THE LINES WERE AND HOW MUCH IT CUT INTO HIS TRAILER.
BUT NONETHELESS, THE, THE WIRES WERE TOO LOW.
ONE QUESTION THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED IS, DO WE HAVE A, A PRACTICE IN PLACE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DEAL WITH THESE TYPES OF, OF CALLS, MEANING THE LOW HANGING LINES.
AND WE DO, IF THEY'RE NOTED BY A CITIZEN AND THEY CALL OUR DISPATCH, OR IF ANY OF OUR OFFICERS NOTICE, UH, ANY LINE, CUZ THERE'S A VARIETY OF TYPES OF LINES THERE THAT ARE HANGING TOO LOW.
OUR DISPATCH CENTER HAS ALL OF THE AFTER HOUR CONTACT NUMBERS, OUR EMERGENCY NUMBERS FOR ALL OF THOSE COMPANIES, WHETHER IT'S TELEPHONE ELECTRIC OR WHATNOT ARE CABLE.
AND WE WILL CALL THOSE COMPANIES AND ASK THEM TO RESPOND TO THE SCENE IMMEDIATELY.
IF IT IS A LINE THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH AND MOVE, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, A TELEPHONE LINE, THEN WE'LL MOVE THAT LINE OURSELF.
IF IT'S IN THE ROAD OR WE'LL BLOCK IT OFF, WHATEVER WE, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO, UH, AS FAR AS THE CONDITION OF THOSE LINES PRIOR TO THAT ACCIDENT, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THEY WERE LOW ENOUGH TO HIT ON THAT 18 WHEELER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT, THAT WOULDN'T BE WHAT WE WANT, BUT AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE CITY OR EVALUATING ALL OF THE LINES IN THE CITY, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S DONE, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT PROVIDES YOU AN UPDATE ON THIS PARTICULAR CALL.
SO WHEN THEY FIXED THESE LINES, THEY MADE IT NONE THE TALLER.
UM, AND SO I WAS KIND OF FRUSTRATED WITH THAT.
I KNOW AT LEAST TWO PRIOR OCCASIONS BEFORE I I'VE KIND OF HIT ON THE FACT THAT I HAD A RESIDENT WHO WAS DELIVERING A SHED AND THAT PERSON COULD NOT GO THROUGH THAT ENTRANCE.
THEY HAD TO CUT THROUGH THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE, IF THESE LINES CONTINUE TO IMPEDE ON TRAFFIC, IS THERE A FINE, IS THERE A FEE, WHAT, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS? I WOULD SAY IF THEY'RE IN, I DON'T, I'M NOT EXACTLY CERTAIN IF THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT REGULATES THEIR HEIGHT, THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT ISN'T HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE.
SO THE OFFICERS, BUT I DO BELIEVE OBVIOUSLY IF THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OR IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE LOWER THAN WE WILL WANT, WE CERTAINLY WANT THEM TO FIX THEM.
SO WE CALL 'EM, BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN OF THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY RESEARCH IT AND GET BACK TO YOU, NOT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, JERRY, IS IT, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT REGULATES THE HEIGHT? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SPEAKING TO, UM, THE WORKERS THAT WERE THERE FOR FRONTIER AND FOR P C, THAT THESE LINES WERE TOO SHORT FOR P C.
SO THEY SOLD THEM TO FRONTIER AND THEN FRONTIER HAS MAINTAINED THEM SINCE.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF THEY'RE TOO SHORT FOR, FOR P C YEAH.
THAT, WHY DO THEY P C BEING AN ELECTRIC LINE IN FRONTIER BEING A COMMUNICATIONS LINE? IT DOESN'T QUITE SOUNDS RIGHT.
WHEN I, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE, UH, STATE LAWS, STATE LAW HAD HAD SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS THAT WAS 22 FEET FOR POWER LINES AND IT WAS LOWER.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR NON-POWER LINES, AGAIN, NOT REFERENCING AN ORDINANCE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE, BUT, UM, IT, IT WOULD BE ODD THAT FRONTIER WOULD TRY TO BUY POWER LINES FROM P C.
SO I, I DON'T THINK IT WAS A POWER LINE.
THERE'S THE POSE THAT THEY PURCHASED FROM.
OH, SO POWER LINES MAYBE MAINTAIN IN NAMES.
SO POWER LINES HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN HEIGHT.
AND THEN THE, UH, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? CABLE LINES HAVE TO BE A LITTLE OVER 16 FOOT.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AUSTIN HAS AN ORDINANCE IN.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING AS A CITY WE WANNA LOOK AT AS WHAT ORDINANCE WE WANT IMPLEMENT SOMETHING.
WE, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN AGAIN.
SO, UH, IT'S A WISH OF COUNCILS PASS AN ORDINANCE TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE, UH, CABLES, UH, COMPANIES ADHERED TO AN ORDINANCE OF THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT WOULD BE GREAT TO DO.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE POLLS THERE THAT ARE DANGEROUSLY WOBBLY.
AND I DON'T KNOW, WHO'S RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAY IN SAFE CONDITION.
UM, BUT I'VE HAD SEVERAL RESIDENTS REACH OUT TO ME AND, AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THOSE POLL? YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE LINES, BUT WHAT ARE WE ALSO GONNA DO WITH THOSE POLLS? AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ORDINANCE FOR THAT AS WELL THERE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
THERE'S NOT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DEVELOP ONE AND BRING IT BACK TO, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE ALSO CURRENTLY HAVE A PROTOCOL FOR, FOR INSPECTING THOSE LINES OR THOSE POLES THAT ALSO DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DEVELOP ONE AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
WELL, WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF CREATE AN ORDINANCE REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF POWER LINES, SECOND CABLE, CABLE LINES, OR JUST ANY LINES, REALLY CABLE LINES, THE POWER COMPANIES SEPARATE.
THEY ALREADY HAVE TO ADHERE TO STATE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF CREATE AN ORDINANCE REGARDING LOW HANGING LINES.
UM, AND ADDITIONALLY, TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE REGARDING UNSAFE POLES, OR IF ANYBODY HAS BETTER LANGUAGE THAN THAT, I'D
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APPRECIATE IT.AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW.
THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALE.
IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE ADDRESSING LOW HANGING POWER LINES OR UTILITY UTILITY LINES OF ANY KIND AS WELL AS TO ADDRESS, UH, WOBBLY OR UNSTABLE POLE, MAYBE LIKE FOR REPLACING.
AND SO IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER BRADSHAW? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SEE WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE AS FAR AS, UM, BECAUSE SHE'S RIGHT.
THESE POLES AND THESE POWER LINES ARE,
UM, BUT TO SEE ABOUT SINCE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIX THEM ABOUT JUST IMPLEMENTING SOME SORT OF, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO ALLOW SOME UTILITIES TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT IMPLEMENTING UNDERGROUND UTILITIES SO THAT WE CAN AVOID THIS IN THE FUTURE.
THAT, THAT I BELIEVE WE ALREADY HAVE.
IS THAT, IS THAT FOR ANY NEW LINES THAT COME IN? SO CAN WE REVISIT THAT AND SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR, I MEAN, THIS PROVIDER THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THESE LINES.
THERE'S NO WAY, I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DIFFERENT UTILITIES.
UM, WE'D PREFER THEM TO BE UNDERLINED TO BE ON UNDERGROUND, TO BE HONEST.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, I DON'T JUST WANT TO SAY, HEY, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT THESE UNDERGROUND? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING FIRM AND SOLID SAYING THAT IF THEY HAVE TO REPLACE THEM, THAT THEY NEED TO GO UNDERGROUND, RIGHT.
WE'LL LOOK, THEY THEY'VE LET THESE CONDITIONS GET TO THIS POINT.
AND NOW WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS AND PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.
WE WE'LL LOOK INTO WRITING THAT INTO ORDINANCE.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO CROSS REFERENCE THAT WITH STATE LAW, THAT ALSO REGULATES A LOT OF THE UTILITIES THAT WE DEAL WITH.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UH, EXAMPLE THERE, MS. BRAD, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP BECAUSE WE CAN ACTUALLY, IF WE GET AN ORDINANCE WRITTEN AND WE GET AN ORDINANCE PASS, WE CAN SAY, AS OF THIS DATE, ANY POLLS GOING FORWARD THAT ARE DAMAGED, THAT ARE BROKEN, THAT ARE SEEMED SAFE, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT BACK ON THE COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO JUST, UH, PUT IT UNDER THE GROUND IN THAT SENSE TO WHERE, AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN START GETTING THEM MORE MODERNIZED AS FAR AS THE WAY WE HAVE ALL THEIR ELECTRICITY POLES AND START GOING FROM THERE.
WE'LL CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT RIGHT INTO THE ORDINANCE, AS WE'RE ABLE TO.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO ISSUES WITH STATE LAW, BUT BASICALLY WHAT I'M HEARING, WHICH I AGREE WITH IS AS CLOSE TO THAT LINE, AS WE CAN GO, STAYING ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT, WE'D LIKE TO GO.
SO WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO JUST HAVE ALL THE TOOLS AND THE TOOL BAG.
SO THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS TO ALLOW FOR US TO CITE OR FIND, UH, ANY UTILITY PROVIDER FOR HAVING LOW HANGING LINES, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REMEDY BECAUSE I, I, IT'S PROBABLY HALF A DOZEN DIFFERENT TIMES I'VE MADE CALLS AND HARPER PROBABLY TELL YOU THE DIFFERENT TIMES I'VE MADE CALLS ON LOW HANGING LINES.
UM, THEY, IT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ALWAYS LIKE INTENT, NOT INTENTIONAL.
IT'S NOT EVEN ALWAYS A NEGLECT SOMETIMES JUST ONE DAY YOU LOOK UP AND A LINE IS TOO LOW.
THERE'S ONE ACROSS STAGE COACH CROSSING.
UM, UH, THE OTHER DAY THAT WAS REAL LOW.
AND IT JUST A MATTER OF TIME SOMEBODY BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION.
I'M LIKE, HOW DOES THIS SIT THERE? AND THEY, I THINK A PHONE CALL AND IT GOT RESOLVED, BUT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TEETH IN THE EVENT THAT SOME RIGHT AWAY, OH, THE RIGHT WAY RIGHT AWAY.
WHAT, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE'LL BRING BACK WHEN WE, WHEN WE DRAFT THIS IN WORKING WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL WILL BE TO ADDRESS THOSE THAT ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF POWER LINES AND SUCH THAT ARE ON PRIVATELY CONTROLLED PROPERTY.
SO MOST LIKELY YOU'LL SEE LANGUAGE THAT ONLY ADDRESSES THOSE THAT ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL WORK ON.
I WANNA SAY, THANK YOU TO HARPER AND MARK CHIEF BARNETT.
THIS WAS THROWN AT YOU GUYS AT THE LAST MINUTE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNEW YOU'RE GONNA COME OVER HERE AND TALK, BUT YOU DID GOOD.
AND I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.
I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM, UM, JERRY AS WELL.
OH, NO, I JUST, I WAS, I WAS SAYING, THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A KIND OF A TIMELINE WHEN, FOR WHEN WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR BRINGING THIS ORDINANCE BACK, THAT'S WHAT, UH, PAIGE AND I WERE JUST DISCUSSING IS TRYING TO BRING IT BACK BY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, BUT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO CROSS REFERENCE STATE LAW AND OUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS.
CAN WE BRING THIS BACK BY THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER? I'LL CERTAINLY TRY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE FAVORS SAY AYE.
[26. Authorize the Mayor to execute an agreement with SANAVA, LLC, dba GRAVITI ENERGY, Houston, Texas, to provide a turn-key Electric Vehicle Charging Station (EVCS) network. ~ Kathy Roecker, Stormwater Management Plan Administrator]
AGENDA ITEM 26 AUTHORIZED MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, SON NAV, LLC DBA, UH, GRATI ENERGY, HOUSTON, TEXAS, TO PROVIDE[02:15:01]
A TURNKEY ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION NETWORK.HI MAYOR, MAYOR PROAM COUNCIL MEMBERS, KATHY RAKER STORMWATER PROGRAM FOR THE RECORD IN MY EXCITEMENT TO GET THIS ITEM BACK TO Y'ALL HAVING IT BEEN REPOSTED.
UH, I REALIZED THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED A FEW MORE QUESTIONS OF THE TOP TWO CANDIDATES.
UM, AND IN ORDER TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DUE, DUE DILIGENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO POSSIBLY BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
I DO FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO REALLY KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD MAINLY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
I KNOW THAT EB CHARGING STATIONS, UM, WERE PLANNED ON GOING IN OUT THERE.
UM, BUT Y'ALL DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY HEARTBURN LIKE THAT? NO, THAT'S FINE.
WHILE I'M STAYING HERE, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL, WOULD'VE THROWN AT ME THAT I COULD MAKE SURE TO ASK MAY PRO YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, KATHY IS, UH, THESE CHARGING STATIONS.
WILL THEY, UM, ARE THEY GONNA BE JUST FOR ONE SPECIFIC TYPE OF VEHICLE? WILL THEY BE ABLE TO HANDLE, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES OUT THERE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS OF COURSE TESLA HAS THEIR OWN CHARGER, BUT I, WE WOULD PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT UNIVERSAL CHARGERS.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO POSSIBLY AT THE PD BUILDING, UH, DOING A DC FAST CHARGER THAT WILL ALLOW AT LEAST ONE VEHICLE TO CHARGE SUPER FAST, AS OPPOSED TO MORE OF LIKE A EIGHT HOUR CHARGE.
HOW ARE YOU? UM, JUST HOW MANY ARE WE LOOKING AT GETTING AT, JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, JUST CURIOUS.
WE DO NOT HAVE A NUMBER IN MIND.
WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA, YOU KNOW, IT'S FOR CITY OWNED LOCATIONS.
SO, I MEAN, IN MY THOUGHT PROCESS, I'M THINKING OF THE VIBE NODES, UM, UM, OF COURSE PD, UM, WHERE WE SEE THE NEED, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THEM.
SO REALLY WE DID NOT HAVE A NUMBER IN MIND.
THE RFP WAS PRETTY VAGUE AND, AND I THINK THAT LED TO A LOT OF CONFUSION WITH THE FIRST POSTING.
SO I TRIED TO MAKE IT MORE BROAD THE SECOND TIME AROUND, BUT LIKE I SAID, THE, THE TOP TWO, UM, ONE HAS COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AND THEN ONE SAYING NO CHARGE.
UM, AND WITH THE FIRST SUBMITTAL THAT WE HAD RECEIVED, I HAD PUT IT IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL THAT, UH, THEY WERE HOPING TO GET GRANT FUNDING.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES WHEN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE TOP TWO.
SO I JUST WANNA CALL, I WANNA CALL EACH OF THEM AND GIVE THEM A HYPOTHETICAL, SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR FIVE CHARGERS, ONE DC, FAST CHARGER, YOU KNOW, UM, FOUR LEVEL, TWO CHARGERS, WHAT KIND OF COST ARE WE GONNA BE LOOKING AT? THAT'S GOOD.
SO ARE ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.
[27.
(First Reading) An ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, amending Chapter 53 of the Code of Ordinances by Amending Article VII Nonconforming Uses and Structures. ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval.
- Public Hearing
]RIGHT.
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 27, FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY AMENDING ARTICLE SEVEN, NONCONFORMING USES AND STRUCTURES.
THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WILL ATKINSON, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD, UH, BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE, UM, AN ORDINANCE, UH, ESSENTIALLY REPLACING OUR EXISTING NONCONFORMING USE AND STRUCTURES ORDINANCE, UH, TO MAKE A MORE ROBUST AT DIRECTION OF COUNSEL AND, UH, WITH COORDINATION WITH, UH, OUR LEGAL TEAM AND PLANNING.
THIS IS THE, THE RESULT OF A, THIS ITEMS THAT IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL, UH, JUST, UH, TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET, UM, MAJOR BULLET POINTS ON THIS.
UM, WHEN LEGAL WENT AND THROUGH, WENT THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THIS, UH, THIS WAS ESSENTIALLY JUST REWRITTEN TO ACCOUNT FOR STATE LAW AND CASE LAW, UH, PROVIDE MORE SIGNIFICANT, ROBUST PROTECTIONS OF RESIDENTIAL USES OR STRUCTURES AND THO, AND EVEN THOSE THAT ARE INCLUDED IN COMMERCIALLY ZONED AREAS, UM, PROVIDING A PROCESS TO APPROVE AN EXTENSION OF TIME FOR LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING USES OR STRUCTURES, PROVIDING A PROCESS FOR APPROVING LEGALLY NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES IN NEWLY ANNEX AREAS AND ALSO TERMINATION OF LEGALLY NONCONFORMING USES AND STRUCTURES.
SO THIS ACTUALLY GIVES US A LOT MORE TO WORK WITH FROM, FROM A, A TOOLKIT, IF YOU WILL, TO PROPERLY ACCOUNT FOR, UM, LEGAL NONCONFORMITIES, THE ONE CITIZENS COME AND TALK WITH US ABOUT IT, AND WE'RE QUITE HAPPY WITH THE ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED.
UH, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, EXCUSE ME.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
UH, UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS SIDE? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, COUNCIL, FORK.
UM, FIRST I DON'T MEAN TO BE NITPICKY, BUT THIS WAS REALLY HARD TO READ INITIALLY BECAUSE IT WAS RED, BLUE AND BLACK.
AND SO, UM, WHEN, USUALLY WHEN I SEE A RED LINE, IT'LL ALL BE ALL THE CHANGES, WHETHER IT'S DELETED OR ADDED WILL ALL BE IN RED.
AND SO I DID HAVE TO GO BACK AND TRY TO FIGURE, I'M ASSUMING THE, THE BLUE IS THE NEW, THE RED IS GONE AND THEN THE BLACK IS JUST ORIGINAL.
THERE'S ALSO A, A, THE, UH, FINISHED COPY AS WELL ON THE BACK
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OF MATERIAL.I TRIED TO MAKE SURE I PUT BOTH ON THERE BECAUSE YEAH.
UM, SO I HAVE JUST REALLY TWO ISSUES WITH THIS AND I, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT ORDINANCE.
UM, I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS, UM, BROUGHT TO THE TABLE FOR THIS ONE.
SO ON, WELL, THERE'S NO, I'M LOOKING AT THE RED LINE AND SO GOING TO, UH, LEGAL WAIT.
IT'S GONNA BE UNDER SECTION 53 DASH 1140, AND IT'S GONNA BE THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.
UH, NON-CONFORMING USERS AND STRUCTURES MUST HAVE BEEN LEGALLY ESTABLISHED.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME IS THE THIRD SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS THE PERSON CLAIMING THE LEGAL NONCONFORMING USE OR STRUCTURE HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO ESTABLISH THAT THE USE STRUCTURE OR IMPROVEMENT QUALIFIES AS LEGAL.
AND THE REASON WHY I HAVE A REAL CONCERN FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THESE STRUCTURES THAT ARE NORMALLY IN NONCONFORMING AREAS ARE STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE IN THEIR OLDER HOMES.
AND IN WHAT I LEARNED IN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE IS THE REC.
SOMETIMES THE CITY DOES NOT EVEN HAVE RECORDS TO, TO SHOW ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
SO IN THE EVENT, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE RECORDS THAT BURDEN OF PROOF IS NOW PUT ON THE HOMEOWNER.
HOW WOULD YOU EXPECT THEM TO PROVIDE YOU PROOF THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WHEN THERE'S NOTHING ON THE CITY SIDE THAT SAYS, OTHERWISE, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, IT, IT ALL STARTS WITH THE CONVERSATION WITH US.
UM, WE, UH, AND IT HELPS IF YOU'VE BEEN EMPLOYED HERE FOR A LONG TIME TOO.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO AS YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND, YOU CAN SEE THE, I, THE, THE STRUCTURES ARE JUST KNOW THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU WILL.
SO, UM, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH UNDERSTANDING THE RESIDENT OR THE PERSON ASKING THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, IS THIS LEGALLY COMPLIANT? IS THIS GRANDFATHERED IN? AND THEN WE DO THE BEST JOB THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN BASED ON THEIR SITUATION TO COORDINATE WITH THEM ON THAT.
NOW ON TOP OF THAT, UM, WITH THIS NEW ORDINANCE, THERE TALKS, THERE'S A REGISTRY FOR LEGAL NONCONFORMITIES.
SO YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND SAY, IF, IF THERE'S, IF WE'RE HAVING SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER IT IS OR ISN'T, BUT WE'RE REASONABLY CERTAIN THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROBABLY THE RESIDENT OR THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PROBABLY ACCURATE.
WE, THEY CAN APPLY AND HAVE THEIR PROPERTY REGISTERED FOR AS ILLEGAL NONCONFORMITY.
WELL, IF, IF COUNCIL IS ON BOARD AND THEY APPROVE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SOMETHING THAT ALSO GIVES LIABILITY, OR I GUESS, A PROTECTION IN CASE THE CITY CAN'T DISPROVE THAT, UM, WHERE, AND MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE RECORDS, AND THAT COULD BE NOTED AS AN EXCEPTION.
SO IN THE, IN THE EVENT THAT THE, UH, EITHER HOMEOWNER OR A LANDOWNER CAN'T PROVIDE THOSE RECORDS AND NEITHER CAN THE CITY, THEN THE BURDEN OF PROOF NO LONGER EXIST.
AND IT IT'S AUTOMATIC THAT THEY, WHATEVER THEY'RE CLAIMING IS, I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, THIS IS ONLY GONNA AFFECT A HANDFUL OF HOMES.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, MY GOAL WITH UPDATING THIS ORDINANCE WAS TO PROTECT THOSE HOMEOWNERS.
AND, AND, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES YOU'RE CORRECT, THERE IS NO PROOF ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND SO, UM, AS WEVE DISCOVERED IN A COUPLE OF, UH, PROJECTS, I'LL SAY PROJECTS,
SO WE JUST HAD IT IN THE CODE AND WAS NEVER UPDATED.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO COORDINATE WITH THE RESIDENT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GO AS FAR AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO DETERMINE THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND THEN THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE, THE, UM, OH, THE, THE OPTION FOR THEM TO ESTABLISH IT AS A LEGAL NONCONFORMITY IN A DATABASE.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, YEAH, WE THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
HERE'S, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IT.
AND SO MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THAT IS ALL THAT'S GONNA BE BASED ON THE OPINIONS OF WHOEVER'S IN THE OFFICE OR WHOEVER'S ON THE BOARD OR WHOEVER IS STAFFED.
SO, UM, PAGE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO STICK THAT VERBIAGE IN, UM, SECTION ONE REGARDING, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY CAN'T PROVE OR DISPROVE THAT THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS DOESN'T EXIST AND THE NONCONFORMING, IF,
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IF YOU'LL LET US WORK WITH THE STAFF TO SUGGEST SOME LANGUAGE, I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND CUZ THERE'S DIFFERENT BURDENS OF PROOF DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS.AND SOMETIMES THAT SHIFTS TO THE CITY.
SO WE WANNA BE ACCURATE ABOUT WHEN IT'S THE CITY'S BURDEN OF PROOF AND WHEN IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND SO, AND DOES ANYBODY, SORRY ON COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT I'M DISCUSSING IT.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO THAT SAME SENTENCE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE WORD OR THE, THE TITLE SAYS PERSON CLAIMING WOULD, SHOULD IT BE ALSO VERIFIED LIKE IF RESIDENT OR CURRENT HOMEOWNER OR ARE WE JUST SAYING PERSON? SO YEAH.
THAT'S WHERE IT'S KIND OF AMBIGUOUS.
BECAUSE A PERSON COULD BE, I WAS INHERITED THE HOUSE, BUT I'M NOT REALLY THE HOMEOWNER, BUT I'M IN CHARGE OF IT.
YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS WHO IS THE ACTUAL OWNER OR THE, UH, ENTITLED INDIVIDUAL.
SO WOULD THE, IS MEANING THAT THE, THE PERSON CLAIMING COULD BE A DAUGHTER WHO WAS INHERITED THIS HOUSE OR IT COULD BE, UH, A BROKER OR AN ESTATE AGENT? IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT TO BE CLEAR AS FAR AS WHO SHOULD HAVE THE SAY? WELL, I THINK, UM, PAIGE HAD A REALLY GOOD IDEA AS FAR AS, UM, WHEN IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
AND THEN WHEN IT'S THE RESIDENTS OR THE LANDOWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY WHERE THAT BURDEN OF PROOF FALLS, UM, CUZ SOMETIMES IF THE CITY IS SAYING, NO, THIS IS NO LONGER RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY CAN'T PROVE ANYWHERE IN THE RECORDS THAT IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL, THEN THAT BURDEN OF PROOF SHOULDN'T FALL ON THE PERSON SAYING NO, NO, NO.
IT IS RESIDENTIAL THAT, SO THE LAND OWNER VERSUS THE PERSON IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
I THINK IF YOU GUYS JUST BRING BACK SOME LANGUAGE, I THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTAND JUST SO THAT WAY JUST REAL, REAL, CUZ I CAN SEE 10 YEARS FROM NOW IF IT'S IN ESTATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY'RE GONNA BE REAL PICK OR PARTICULAR ABOUT THE DETAILS ON JUST SEEING HOW ATTORNEYS WOULD PROBABLY DISSECTED.
AND THEN MY OTHER, IF NOBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE ONE MORE OTHER, UM, KIND OF ISSUE.
UM, AND THAT'S UNDER THE SAME SECTION NUMBER FOUR CONTINUATION OF NONCONFORMING RESIDES, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, UM, LETTER A, UM, NONCONFORMING RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES MAY CONTINUE TO BE MAINTAINED AND USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT WHERE THEY'RE LEGALLY ESTABLISHED.
I KINDA HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PROVIDED THAT NO ADDITIONS OR ENLARGEMENTS ARE MADE THERE TOO.
AND NO STRUCTURAL ALTERATIONS ARE MADE THEREIN EXCEPT THOSE REQUIRED BY LAW OR EXPRESSLY PERMITTED BY THIS ARTICLE.
SO IF, IF I'M READING THAT AND IT SAYS, OR EXPRESSLY PERMITTED BY THIS ARTICLE, WHERE WOULD I GO BACK TO READ WHERE THAT'S RELEVANT? SO THE, THE SECTION IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THAT SUBSECTION B THERE'S ONE ASPECT OF IT WHERE IF THEY'VE ESTABLISHED, UM, THEY'VE RECEIVED THEIR PERMIT, THEY'VE STARTED CONSTRUCTION PRIOR TO THE RULES, CHANGING THE REGULATION, CHANGING.
THAT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS WHERE THEY, THEY CAN GO BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE WORK OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND, AND KEEP EXPANDING IN A, IN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE A LEGALLY NON-COMPLIANT MANNER.
I WAS GONNA SAY ONE OF MY HOPES WAS THAT, UM, THESE HOMES QUALIFY FOR NON-CONFORMING WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, ALTER THEIR HOMES OR EXPAND IT AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T GO AGAINST THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ORDINANCE.
UM, I, I, SO I DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT SECOND SENTENCE AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE ALLOWING FOR, UM, ALTERATIONS TO BE MADE, NOT TO EXCEED THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA ASK, I REMEMBER FROM THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION WE WERE DISCUSSING A PERCENTAGE.
I THOUGHT THAT MADE A LOT OF SENSE TO ALLOW FOR AS LONG AS IT, YOU KNOW, 15% OR I THINK THAT WOULD MAYBE 10 OR 15% OF AN EXPANSION FROM A SQUARE FOOTAGE STANDPOINT, WOULDN'T TRIGGER ANY NONCONFORMING USE CLAUSES.
SO IS THAT NOT IN THIS PROPOSAL? IT IS NOT.
AND SO IF COUNCIL WANTS TO ADD THAT, WE CAN DO THAT.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES, BUT IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE 15 IMPROVE.
15, IF WE COULD DO 15%, BUT CAN WE ALSO PUT IN THERE NOT TO EXCEED THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WE, WE CAN, UM, FROM, FROM THE ZONING PERSPECTIVE, THEY ALREADY CAN'T DO THAT ANYWAY, REGARDLESS.
SO, BUT IF IT, IF IT HELPS MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER.
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THANK YOU.UM, IF NOBODY HAS QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER.
TO BRING BACK, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS CODE OF ORDINANCES WITH THE AMENDMENTS DISCUSSED DURING THE MEETING.
UM, I'M GONNA CLARIFY, THAT'S A MOTION TO APPROVE AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK ON SECOND READING.
SO A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL FLORES, KALE SECONDED BY, UH, MAYOR PRO TIM RIZZO, AND TO BRING INTO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK THE AMENDMENTS DISCUSSED UPON SECOND READING.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UM, YOU COMFORTABLE WITH, YEAH, I'M JUST SITTING BACK THERE THE ENTIRE TIME.
[28.
(First Reading) An ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, amending Chapter 11, Section 11-162, Section 11-175, Section 176, & Section 11-177 of the Code of Ordinances by amending items relating to food trucks. ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval.
- Public Hearing
FIRST READING IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS AMENDING CHAPTER 11, SECTION 11, 1 62, 1 75, SECTION 1 76 AND SECTION 11, 1 77 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY MANY ITEMS RELATED TO FOOD TRUCKS.
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
TO KEEP A BRIEF ONCE AGAIN, UH, WILL ATKINSON, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD, UM, PER Y'ALL, UM, CITY COUNCIL'S, UH, VISIONING SESSION EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, Y'ALL HAD DIRECTED STAFF TO BRING BACK CHANGES TO OUR FOOD TRUCK ORDINANCE TO BETTER FACILITATE ALLOWANCES FOR PEOPLE TO ESTABLISH FOOD TRUCKS IN THE CITY.
UH, BOTH OF THOSE FROM A TEMPORARY STANDPOINT, ALSO THOSE FROM A FOOD TRUCK COURT, IF YOU WILL.
SO WE WENT THROUGH, UM, AND LARGELY WITH THE HELP OF OUR NEW CITY PLANNER, KAYLA SHARP, UM, WE PUT TOGETHER A, A MUCH BETTER ORDINANCE, QUITE FRANKLY.
UM, SO JUST SOME OF THE BULLET POINTS, UH, A REDUCTION IN REQUIRED PARKING TO MAKE IT MORE, UM, MORE PALATABLE FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO BE ABLE TO CONGREGATE, UM, INCREASED FLEXIBILITY RELATING TO WHERE A FOOD TRUCK MAY BE PLACED ON A PARCEL INCREASED LENGTH OF TIME.
IF FOOD TRUCK MAY BE ALLOWED IN ONE LOCATION, MORE ROBUST FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND INCREASED NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS ALLOWED IN A FOOD TRUCK COURT.
UM, THE, THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS IS, UM, IT WAS REALLY BROKEN INTO TWO SECTIONS.
THERE WAS, UM, MOBILE AND TEMPORARY VERSUS FOOD COURTS.
AND SO WE'VE CONSOLIDATED THAT INTO ACTUALLY, I APOLOGIZE, THREE SECTIONS WE'VE CONSOLIDATED INTO TWO INTO TEMPORARY AND MOBILE FOODS YEAH.
SO PRIOR TO, OR ACTUALLY CURRENTLY TO THIS ORDINANCE, UM, A FOOD TRUCK CANNOT EX STAY IN ONE PLACE FOR LONGER THAN 12 MONTHS.
UM, IN A LOT OF CASES, UH, FOOD TRUCK VENDORS THERE WHEN THEY'RE SELLING THEIR FOODS OR THEIR WEARS, THEY ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH A CUSTOMER BASE.
AND, UM, AS WE STARTED DOING OUR RESEARCH AND A LOT OF IT FOCUSED UP IN THE DFW AREA, UM, WE FOUND THAT, UM, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THEM HAD TO ESSENTIALLY NEEDED TO STAY IN PLACE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS BEFORE THEY COULD ESTABLISH A GOOD FOLLOWING IF YOU WILL, WHICH THEN ALLOWS THEM TO TRANSITION INTO MORE OF A BRICK AND MORTAR KIND OF LOCATION.
UM, AND THEY CAN, THEY ALSO CAN, DON'T NEED EXTRA PERMITS TO GO THROUGH A CITY PROCESS AS WELL, LIKE A CITY EVENT AS WELL.
THEY CAN TALK WITH US JUST TO GET THOSE TAKEN CARE OF, UM, THE FOOD TRUCK COURT SIDE OF IT THOUGH AS WELL.
UM, WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF PARKING.
THEY STILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME PARKING FOR EACH UNIT, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UM, THE FOOD TRUCKS WERE ALLOWED TO CONGREGATE IN A SAFE MANNER, BUT ALSO IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY FASHION PRIOR TO, OR PRIOR TO THE RIDING OF THIS, THIS DRAFT, UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ABOUT 150 FEET BETWEEN A FOOD TRUCK TO FOOD TRUCK AND A FOOD COURT.
AND THAT THAT'S A REALLY, REALLY LARGE DISTANCE.
THAT'S APPROXIMATELY THREE HOUSE, LOTS BETWEEN, UH, BETWEEN FOOD TRUCKS.
SO WE WANTED TO BRING IT DOWN TO WHERE IT JUST, IT NEEDED TO MEET FIRE CODE, WHICH IS ABOUT A 10 FOOT SEPARATION FROM A, IF THEY HAVE ANY, UH, PROPANE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND SO AS PART OF, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WHERE THEY HAVE SITE PLANS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE REVIEWED, UH, FIRE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT IT AS WELL AS PLANNING AND ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE COULD BE MORE FLEXIBLE WHERE IT WAS APPROPRIATE, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE STAYING SAFE WITH US.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YEAH.
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DO IT THE SAME WAY EVERY TIME.
OTHERWISE I'LL FORGET TO CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ONE OF THE THINGS I, I WANNA POINT OUT THOUGH, WE HAD AN ORDINANCE IN THIS THAT SAID THAT THEY, THE TEMPORARY ONES HAD TO HAVE A BATHROOM LOCATION NEARBY.
DID WE REMOVE THAT FOR THE TEMPORARY ONES? FOR THE TEMPORARY FOOD TRUCKS? WE DID NOT NECESSARILY REMOVE IT, BUT WE ALL STAFF ALSO HAS FLEXIBILITY WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE.
TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATIVELY WAIVE
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THAT REQUIREMENT.ASSUMING YOU COULD GET TO A RESTROOM IN AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF TIME, YOU HAVE ADA COMPLIANCE AND ALL THAT KIND OF FUN.
AND, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I'M BRINGING THAT UP AS A CITY, WE STILL HAVEN'T, UH, GOTTEN INTO THAT PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE YET IS GETTING, YOU KNOW, SOME PUBLIC BATHROOMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR OUR FOOD TRUCKS.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME TALK AND SOME PLANS ABOUT IT, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE YET.
UH, BUT AS THE CITY'S GROWING, WE HAD A BIG DEMAND FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOOD.
SO HAVING THESE FOOD TRUCKS IN HERE IS GREAT AND THEY, AND YOU'RE CORRECT.
THEY DO GO INTO BRICK AND MORTAR, UH, AITA BAKERIES, PROBABLY OUR BEST EXAMPLE.
THEY WENT FROM THEIR LIVING ROOM TO THE FOOD TRUCK, TO A BRICK AND MORTAR AND UNDER A YEAR, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF, USUALLY IT TAKES THREE YEARS TO DO THAT.
THEY DID IT IN ONE YEAR, WHICH IS AMAZING.
THEY'VE GOT A GREAT PRODUCT BY THE WAY.
SO IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY, UH, UH, A GREAT ORDINANCE.
SO I, I APPRECIATE YOU AND I, I APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY ON THE FERENCE AS WELL.
WELL, I THINK ACTUALLY MICHAEL CUSTOMER TOBI, I WAS JUST MOTION.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL AND BRADSHAW SECONDED BY ACCOUNT MEMBER FLORES, KELLY APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28 IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER TOUS YES, SIR.
UH, I'M GLAD THAT ON SECTION C YOU HAVE A FOOD TRUCK LOG TO WHERE IT, UH, BASICALLY, UH, LET THEM KNOW THAT THE WE'RE EXPECTING THESE FOOD TRUCKS TO KEEP A ACCURATE LOG OF THE SERVICING SIGNATURE OF, I GUESS, WHERE THEY'RE AT, WHAT WAS SERVED AND SO FORTH JUST IN THE EVENT, THERE'S AN OUTBREAK OF SOME KIND.
WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE TRUCKS THAT WE HAD WERE IN COMPLIANCE AND SPEAKING OF COMPLIANCE, WHO WOULD, UH, BE ASSIGNED FROM THE CITY, UH, TO MAYBE DO RANDOM CHECKS WHENEVER WE HAVE THESE OUT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THEM HEALTH PERMITS, MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S IN ORDER, IT'S ACTUALLY A HA THE HAYES COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT TAKES CARE OF THOSE ITEMS. SPECIFICALLY.
THEY, ANYBODY WHO HAS A FOOD RELATED PERMIT HAS TO GET PERMITS THROUGH THEM AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THOSE HEALTH LOGS AS PART OF THE PROCESS.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WENT OVER AND POURED OVER THE DRAFT THAT YOU JUST OBLITERATED
AND, UH, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE LANDED ON IT THEN EITHER.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE CONTINUING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS, UH, BETTER.
I THINK BY ALL ACCOUNTS YOU ARE.
SO YOU KNOW, THAT THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES RELATED TO FOOD TRUCKS.
YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THE RAILHOUSE WHEN THEY FIRST WERE ADDING THOSE EXTERIOR, UM, UH, THE FOOD DISTRIBUTION BUILDINGS AND WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY THEY, THEY, THEY HAD TO LIKE PUT 'EM ON WHEELS OR TAKE 'EM OFF IN ORDER TO MAKE IT CODE COMPLIANT.
UH, I KNOW WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH, UM, TAMALI, UH, SLINGING OUT OF TRUNKS OF VEHICLES.
YOU KNOW, IT ALL KIND OF COMES INTO, THERE'S JUST, THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT NEED TO BE PUT INTO PLACE.
SO I, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS A GOOD ATTEMPT, BUT ULTIMATELY THE GOAL IS TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCE AND RESTAURANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN A HEALTHY AND SAFE AND MANNER.
BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A FOOD COURT FOOD TRUCK COURT, UH, LOCATED HERE IN THE CITY.
I KNOW THERE'S MAYBE SOME POTENTIAL FOR ONE RIGHT DOWN HERE, UH, IN FRONT OF THE PAWN SHOP.
THAT'D BE NEAT TO SEE THAT COME TOGETHER.
SO I'D LOVE FOR OUR ORDINANCES TO ALLOW FOR THAT AND NOT TO HURT IT.
UH, SO IN YOUR, IN YOUR MIND, YOU THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS POSSIBLE BASED ON THIS? YES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL US A FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AGENDA ITEMS, 29 AND 30, UH, NEED TO BE POSTPONED IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE'RE GONNA SKIP THOSE ATOMS. NOPE.
[31. Approve a development agreement between the City of Kyle and CTC Residential, LLC. ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning and Community Development]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 31, APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, AND CTC, RESIDENTIAL LLC.UH, SO BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE, UM, BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE ZONING, UM, FOR THE CTC RESIDENTIAL, UM, REQUEST, UH, THE FIRST ONE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, IT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS.
IT'S AN ITEM BROUGHT TO YOU TO ACCOUNT FOR THE, UM, THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE PROJECT AND ALSO FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF KYLE PARKWAY AND SEATON PARKWAY.
UM, THEY ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLING A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S CURRENTLY, UM, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A FOUR WAY STOP AND IT DOES NOT FUNCTION WELL.
SO, UM, WITH OUR PROJECT AND COORDINATING WITH THE, UM, REPRESENTATIVES FROM CTC, UM, THIS IS THE OUTCOME OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, THEY DO, THEY, THEY HAVE LISTENED TO BOTH STAFF, TO YALA CITY COUNCIL TO GET EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ALL WANTING.
AND THEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB IN OUR MINDS.
UM, AND THEY DID HAVE A COUPLE THINGS THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HERE
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AND THEY DO HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT WE WILL KEEP IT BRIEF AS WELL AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS IS A VERY LONG COUNCIL MEETING.SO, UM, I'M GONNA THROW IT UP HERE ON THE SCREEN JUST REAL QUICK.
AND IF I'M GONNA PASS
WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS A LONG AND TRAVIS, THIS IS A LONG MEETING.
IF WE COULD JUST KEEP IT TO QUESTIONS OF THE COUNCIL AND JUST GO OVER, WHAT'S CHANGED.
I THINK THAT'D BE A BETTER USE OF OUR TIME THAN ABSOLUTELY.
ONE'S THE DA ONES PUT, OH, THANK YOU.
SO, UM, AND I'M PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO RELY ON TRAVIS HERE TO, TO HELP BACK ME UP HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, UM, THE ORIGINAL, UM, RENDERINGS AND ELEVATION SHOWED IN THE, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY WERE, UM, PITCHED ROOFS.
UM, AND THEY DID HAVE, UM, A LITTLE BIT LESS, UH, ARCHITECTURAL ACC ACCOUTREMENTS TO 'EM.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE IN THE, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION RIGHT HERE THAT THEYVE PROVIDED, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE EXHIBITS AS WELL, BY THE WAY, UM, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THIS FURTHER MATCHES, UM, THE EXPECTATION OF CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF AS WELL WHEN IT COMES TO A MORE URBAN FORM AND THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THAT.
UM, THEY HAVE ADDED MORE, UH, ALLOWANCES FOR FOOD TRUCKS ON AN EVENT LAWN THAT'S ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THE PROJECT AND ALREADY IS, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE 7,500 SQUARE FOOT, UM, FOOD AND BEVERAGE BUILDING.
UH, THAT EVENT LAWN IS 38,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT IS JUST UNDER AN ACRE, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGE, UH, PROJECT.
THEY'RE GONNA BE ADDING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FUNDING TO A PUBLIC ART IN COORDINATION WITH OUR NEWLY FORMED ARTS COMMISSION.
AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT BASED ON THE, UH, TRAFFIC PLAN THAT THEY HAVE SHOWN IN THERE.
AND, UM, THEY'VE SHOWN SOME BOULEVARD DETAILS IN THERE FROM A STANDARD DETAIL.
UH, THE YELLOW PART ARE THE BUILDINGS.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE DETAIL CUZ THEY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE, UM, HOW THE, THE INTERIOR BOULEVARD WILL FUNCTION FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT.
AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, THE PUBLIC ACCESS IN THE RED, AND THEN RIGHT HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS WHICH YOU, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY SEEN BEFORE.
UM, BUT UH, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE HOW THE FANTASTIC JOB THAT THEY HAVE DONE TO ACCOUNT FOR Y'ALL FOR THE WISHES OF THE CITY TO MAKE THIS PROJECT JUST IT'S FANTASTIC.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST PARTS ABOUT IT? UM, THEY ARE, UM, THE JOB IS IN STAFF'S OPINION IS ABOVE AND BEYOND TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MOTIONS, CUSTOMER SHAW MAYOR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 31 31 SECOND.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLOOR SCALES THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
YES, MAYOR, UM, ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IT JUST GETS BETTER AND BETTER.
HOW WAS IT? MAYOR PRO TOO? YEAH.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, GOTTA FIND THE LANGUAGE IN HERE ABOUT THE, UH, BIG GREEN SPACE THAT IT WON'T BE CLOSED OUT TO THE PUBLIC IF THEY SOLD IT OR ANYTHING ELSE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALWAYS PUBLIC SPACE.
IS, IS THERE SOMETHING IN HERE? YEAH, SURE.
IT'S UH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S A SLIDE BACK UP.
THERE'S UH, A PAGE NUMBER ON THE SLIDE THAT CAN POINT YOU TO IT.
I BELIEVE IT'S ON PAGE 18, 18.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DID AND THIS WAS AN EXHIBIT MISSING FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE PUBLIC.
CAN YOU FLIP TO GO UP TO THE BEGINNING? IT'S A PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE, YEAH, IT'S GO UP TO LIKE SECOND OR THIRD SLIDE.
AND THE REASON I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE VIBE.
TRAIL'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE SPOTS, MAKING SURE IT'S ALWAYS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, IT NEVER GETS CLOSED UP OR FENCED OFF, UH, JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS CUZ WE ARE APPROVING THIS AS A PUBLIC AREA.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED HASHED LINES, THIS IS A CREATIVE SOLUTION.
WE CAME UP, THAT'S GONNA CONNECT THE, THE PARK TO THE, UH, BALANCE OF THE SHOPPING CENTER THROUGH THE BOULEVARD AND WHAT WE'VE SAID AND RESTRICTED.
UM, THE PROJECT FROM IS PUTTING ANY SORT OF FENCING OR BARRIERS ALONG THESE ROADWAYS.
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SORT OF CAR CAN COME THROUGH AND ACCESS THE PARK.AND WE ALSO APPLIED THE SAME RESTRICTION TO ANY SORT OF FENCING AROUND THE PARK ITSELF.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S CODIFIED, UH, THAT THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, I WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE BOULEVARD.
I FEEL LIKE THAT, UH, THE STREET SCAPES AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN PRETTY WELL, UH, CAPTURED HERE.
SO IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME URBAN STREETS BEING, BEING PROPOSED IN THIS AS WELL.
UM, THIS WHOLE THING EXCITES ME.
I LOVE THE FAMILY GET TOGETHER TIME.
UM, I, I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SHADED AREA.
UM, BECAUSE TEXAS LOVES ARE OUTSIDE, BUT IN THE SUMMER AND IT'S A HUNDRED AND YOU KNOW, FIVE DEGREES, IF, UM, WE COULD JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD DO IT IF YOU COULD BE CREATIVE TO GET SOME SALES.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S AMAZING.
AND I'M ALSO WANNA, IF YOU COULD POINT ME TOWARDS THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ART FUNDING AND THE DA.
DID YOU? I JUST SAW IT, BUT I I'VE ALREADY FLIPPED OVER THAT.
LET ME TELL YOU THAT IS AMAZING.
UM, THIS, THIS IS A NEW COMMISSION AND I, I THINK WE GOT 65,000 DURING THE BUDGET.
SO YOU GUYS HAVE EXCEEDED EVEN WHAT THE CITY HAS STARTED OUT WITH.
AND SO I'M SURE FOR THAT COMMISSION, THIS IS GONNA BE SUPER EXCITING.
HOPEFULLY THERE'S A WAY TO SPEND THAT MUCH.
SO I, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE CITY.
UM, YOU'VE TRULY LISTENED TO EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE ASKED.
UM, AND SO, UM, AND AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TR WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT OVERALL, JUST, YOU KNOW, WALKABILITY AND HAVE, UM, THE MULTI-USE IN, IN THE SAME AREA AS WE CAN HAVE FAMILY.
SO ARE WE, I CAN WAIT, THANK YOU BECAUSE WE'RE PARTIALLY, THANK YOU.
UM, SO I DO WANT TO ADDRESS, I KNOW, I KNOW SOME RESIDENTS ALWAYS WONDER WHY DO WE MEET WITH DEVELOPERS? AND I THINK THAT THIS IS WHY, BECAUSE YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS MET WITH ALL COUNCIL, BUT YOU GOT INPUT FROM EACH ONE OF US AND YOU DELIVER AND YOU ARE DELIVERING SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE IN KYLE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE MEET WITH YOU GUYS AND WE APPRECIATE HOW ACCOMMODATING AND YOU GUYS WERE TO MEET WITH US AND YOU ARE OKAY WITH LATE RESPONSES.
UM, MY NEXT QUESTION IS I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION IS THAT SPLASH ZONE, ADULT FRIENDLY.
AND YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE JOB YOU GUYS DO.
UH, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO GET TO KNOW YOU, AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING, UH, FOR US, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOCAL TEXANS AND THIS WON'T BE OUR, OUR LAST PROJECT.
AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH THIS ONE AND MAKE YOU VERY PROUD.
WELL, I THOUGHT I SAW THE A HUNDRED GRAND IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT I HAVEN'T FOUND IT, BUT WE CHECK FOR MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S WHERE I SAW IT SHOULD BE UNDER THE, UH, VIBE PARK.
I THINK IT WAS JUST HIGHLIGHTED.
SHOULD PAGE 17 OR LET'S SEE, BOULEVARD, VIBE SPOT.
DEVELOPERS SHALL SPEND $100,000 WITHIN THE PARK AND F AND B BUILDING ON ITEMS TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ARTS MURALS, TELESCOPES FOR LOOKING, UH, INTO BUTTON, UH, BRANCH CREEK RESERVOIR, ET CETERA.
SO THAT MONEY'S GONNA STAY WITHIN THAT AREA.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION CUSTOMER TO JUST ONE LAST THING? YES.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT FOR THE KIDS TO GO OUT THERE.
HE'S WITH THIS TELESCOPE IS GONNA BE REALLY EXCITED TO FINALLY SEE THAT AND TO SEE THE BIRDS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, I WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, THIS IS PRETTY INTERESTING.
I WATCH DEVELOPERS COME THROUGH A LOT AND I WATCH ZONING VOTES GO DOWN, UH, A LOT.
UH, IT'S RARE THAT A DEVELOPER STICKS WITH IT, UH, AND BRINGS FORWARD THEIR A GAME IN ORDER TO GET THIS COUNCIL.
I THINK MY PROUDEST MOMENTS TO THE COUNCIL I WOULD SAY IS WHEN, UH, COUNCIL GOES FROM A NO TO YES.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT GOES FROM A ME TO REALLY GREAT, UH, BE BECAUSE THEN YOU ARE, BECAUSE THEN IT SHOWS, UH, THE POWER OF, UH, OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL CAN BRING, UH, WHEN THEY HAVE A GOOD PARTNER, UH, INVOLVED.
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YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW YOU WANTED TO TALK TO ME A WHOLE LOT MORE, BUT I WAS NEVER THE ONE YOU HAD TO CONVINCE, UH, YOU ALWAYS HAD TO CONVINCE MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE.AND SO I WAS GONNA STAND FOR TOP NOTCH DEVELOPMENT AS, AS FAR AND LONG AS I COULD, WHETHER I'M A YES OR A NO, YOU KNOW, SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THE, THE BIG IMPROVEMENTS THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BROUGHT FORWARD.
I STILL, UH, HAVE THINGS I WISH THAT WERE BETTER, BUT I, I THINK THAT THIS IS, UM, PRETTY SOLID, UH, FRANKLY, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE MORE RESTAURANTS AND COOL SPACES, UH, COME TO THE CITY EAST OR WEST IN THIS CASE EAST, BUT I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT COMING SO WELL.
UM, YEAH, SO I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA BE BRINGING THIS BACK LIKE A MONTH FROM NOW, BUT WE, WE FIGURED IT OUT.
ANYONE ELSE? ALL A FAVOR, SAY, AYE, ALL OPPOSED.
[32.
(Second Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 15.542 total acres of land from Retail Service District ‘RS’ to Planned Unit District – Mixed Use District ‘PUD MXD’ for property located at 5839 Kyle Parkway, in Hays County, Texas. (CTC Residential LLC - Z-22-0101) ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning and Community Development
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the request.
City Council voted 6-0 to approve on First Reading on 8/16/2022.
]UH, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 32.UH, SECOND READING AND ORDINANCE MINI CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 15.542 TOTAL ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UH, DISTRICT, UH, MIXED USE DISTRICT PUT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 58 39 COL PARKWAY.
UH, THIS ITEM DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE AGENDA ITEM 32 SECOND.
SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR PRO RIZZO SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLOS CA WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 32 IS THEIR DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION.
ALL A OPPOS MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[33. [Postponed 8/16/2022] Approve a development agreement between the City of Kyle and Plum Creek Developers, LLC (Joe Brooks). ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning]
UH, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 33.THIS WAS POSTPONED OUR LAST MEETING APPROVE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND PLUM CREEK DEVELOPERS, LLC.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND THROW THIS UP ON THE SCREEN HERE.
SO THE, UM, THE DEVELOPER, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTED BY MR. BROOKS IS, UH, BEING REFERENCED AS THE WATERFRONT AND MARKETPLACE DEVELOPMENT, UM, AS WITH, UH, MOST DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAS AT MINIMUM A, UM, THAT HAS THE ELEVATIONS IN IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS A BUILDING OR DEVELOPMENT OF SUFFICIENT QUALITY IN KYLE, UH, ALONG WITH THE REZONING REQUEST, UH, THIS IS IN THE I 35 OVERLAY.
SO IT'S GONNA HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER DENSITY AS WELL.
UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING A REZONING FROM R THREE, UH, FROM RS TO R THREE THREE IN A POD AND ALSO WITH, UH, SOME RS MAY STAYING WITHIN THE POD, BUT A MINIMUM OF TWO STORIES AND HAVING TO COMPLY WITH THE I THREE, FIVE OVERLAY.
SO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SPECIFICALLY IS FOCUSING ON THE MULTIFAMILY ASPECT OF THE, UH, SUBSEQUENT, UH, ZONING HEARING.
AND, UM, IT IS, AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT DOWN HERE, DOES THAT SCROLL, I SCROLL DOWN AND I'LL ROTATE THIS.
UH, THIS IS A, UH, FOUR STORY, UH, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING.
UM, IT DOES HAVE A PITCH ROOF, NOT EVERY SINGLE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING THAT COMES FORWARD IS NECESSARILY GONNA HAVE A FLAT ROOF.
HOWEVER, THEY DO HAVE, UM, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF, UM, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN ELEMENTS TO IT.
UM, WITH A MIX OF STUCCO, THEY HAVE A BRICK ON THERE AS WELL.
UM, THEY HAVE, UH, SOME COLUMNS, SOME TOWERS ON IT AS WELL.
SO IT DOES FIT IN ACTUALLY QUITE NICELY.
IT IS A, A CUT ABOVE YOUR STANDARD, UM, GARDEN STYLED P FAMILY.
AND THAT IS WHAT THIS SPECIFIC AGREEMENT IS RELATED TO.
THIS ITEM DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.
UH, DO YOU HAVE RENDERINGS OF THE OFFICE OR RETAIL? NOT YET IS AND THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, WHAT'S WRAPPED UP IN THE DA, CORRECT.
SO THE, THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT IS GONNA FOLLOW THE I THREE, FIVE OVERLAY AT MINIMUM, RIGHT.
AND NOW IT'S GONNA BE OUR GOAL TO MAKE IT, UH, TO ENSURE THAT IT EXCEEDS THAT AS WELL, BUT IT DOES HAVE THAT COMPONENT IN THERE.
AND IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THAT'S PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS NOT READY AT THIS TIME FROM, UH, FROM THE MATERIAL STANDPOINT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND.
SO DO Y'ALL WANT TO BRING IT UP AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ZONING ALSO YES.
ALL, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA BRING UP A GEN ITEM 34 AS WELL.
UH, IT'S FIRST REAGAN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF CALL TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 18.84 ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF A MARKETPLACE, A AND CITY LOTS DRIVE IN HAYES COUNTY.
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HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.SO YOU WANT TO, TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS THIS AS WELL, THIS PART, YES.
AND, UH, WILL, I CAN SIT FOR THE RECORD INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
SO THIS IS THE ZONING ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUEST.
UM, THEY ARE WANTING TO REZONE A TOTAL OF 18.84 ACRES INTO A POD WITH A PORTION OF IT BEING R THREE, THREE, AND, UH, TWO SEPARATE AREAS ZONED FOR RS.
UM, THE, THE MULTI-FAMILY ASPECT OF IT ITSELF, UM, IT WAS NOTICED INCORRECTLY IN THE NEWSPAPER.
SO WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT IN THE POD TO KEEP IT A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE AS THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A PUT DOCUMENT AT WHENEVER YOU NEEDED TO BE THE BIGGEST, UH, THE IDEA OF THE MARKETPLACE AVENUE, WHOLE, THE, THE WHOLE CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE BURLESON STREET ROUNDABOUT, ALL THE WAY UP TO CITY LIGHTS DRIVE IS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A HIGHER DENSITY AREA TRANSITIONING FROM OUR DOWNTOWN AREA ALL THE WAY UP TO THE, UM, UP TO THE, UH, TARGET SHOPPING CENTER.
IT IS A LINEAR TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN ALONG THAT STRETCH WITH, UM, ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, THE BARTON PROJECT, AS A CORE OF THAT WITH THEIR TOWN CENTER.
SO ALL THE PROJECTS AROUND IT, IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK FROM A VERTICAL MIXED USE, UM, KIND OF IDEA, WE WILL, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ALWAYS APPROPRIATE OR WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK FROM A PERFORMANCE STANDPOINT.
SO OCCASIONALLY YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT TYPES, IN OUR OPINION.
SO WHETHER IT CAN BE A, SOME HORIZONTAL HORIZONTALLY INTEGRATED PROJECTS OR VERTICAL MIXED USE, WE TRY TO APPROACH IT FROM A VERTICAL MIXED USE PERSPECTIVE IF WE CAN, BUT SOMETIMES IT JUST, WE CAN PUSH AS FAR AS WE CAN, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.
SO, UM, THE RESULT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH MR. BROOKS AND THIS DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS IS, UH, THIS POD THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU.
AND SO THEY'RE WANTING TO, UH, HAVE THE ZONING TO CONSTRUCT APPROXIMATELY 300 TO 330 UNITS OF MULTIFAMILY, UH, UPWARDS OF, UH, 28 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IT MATCHES THE CURRENT R THREE THREE.
AND THEN, UM, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS OF, UH, RETAIL.
ONE OF 'EM BEING TWO TO THREE ACRES, UM, ON THE NORTH END AND A COUPLE ACRES ON THE SOUTH END.
AND THERE'S SOME LIMITS ON THE TYPES OF USES THEY CAN HAVE IN THERE AS WELL.
UH, THEY DID REQUEST A INCREASE TO 60 FEET ON THE MULTIFAMILY TO ACCOUNT FOR, UM, THE, TO ACCOUNT FOR THE FOUR STORY PERSPECTIVE AND TO ALLOW FOR THE, SOME OF THE FINER DETAILS OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND AS WELL AS THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A MINIMUM OF, UM, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWO STORIES FROM THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF THINGS FROM THE RS PERSPECTIVE.
UH, STEP DOES ASK THAT WE STRIKE, UH, SECTION 8.1 FROM THE, UM, FROM THE PUT AS THEY ARE GONNA BE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD, ASSUMING THEY GET THE ZONING, UH, COORDINATING WITH STAFF TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT HAS ADEQUATE STORM WATER, UH, DETENTION FACILITIES, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS, UH, LIMITED IMPACT ON PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO IT IN DOWNSTREAM AS WELL.
AND I'M GONNA GO DOWN TO THE, AH, HERE WE GO, THE CONCEPT WIN.
SO JUST AS A, A, SOMETHING TO NOTE THE WET DETENTION, UM, TO THE SCREEN RIGHT OF THIS PROJECT IS NOT PART OF THE RE ZONER REQUEST.
UM, BUT IT'S THERE FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS FROM A CONCEPT PLAN TO, TO LAY OUT THE PROJECT.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES SUPPORT, UM, BOTH, UH, THE RE THE ZONINGS WITHIN THE POD.
SO STAFF DOES NOT HAVE A PROBLEM PRESENTING THIS AS WELL AS A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR THEY HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, YES.
THE ZONING ORDINANCE DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? YES, PLEASE.
AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
HI, AGAIN, UH, MR. ATKIN, THE ADDRESS IS SECTION 8.1.
UH, THE ONLY THING LEFT IS SECTION 13.3, WHICH, UM, UH, MR. BROOKS SPONSORED, DEDICATE, UH, UH, THE PROPERTY, WHICH I OWN, UH, AS A PARKLAND, WHICH I OBJECT YOU OBJECT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID, RIGHT? YEAH.
BECAUSE I'M NOT PART OF THIS, UH, PROCESS.
UH, WE MAY DO IT LATER WITH THE CITY DIRECTLY.
SO TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE SAYING THAT STAFF IS, UM, WELL ACTUALLY WE'RE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO I HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO ON THAT, AND COUNCIL MAY HAVE AS WELL, BUT WE CAN ASK YOU THAT AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH TO SAY? NO, JUST ALL.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK?
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ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.UM, SO TO BE CLEAR, ARE, ARE WE REQUIRING DEDICATION OF LAND THAT IS NOT OWNED BY MR. BROOKS IN THIS? THIS IS I I'M LOOKING AT 13.3 RIGHT NOW.
IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL DEDICATE BOTH WATERWAYS AS WELL AS THE WET DETENTION AREA TO PARK LAND, IF DESIRED, COUPLED WITH A TUNNEL EASEMENT FOR A WAIVER OF PARKLAND FEES, UH, FOR CLARIFICATION TO DEDICATE LAND TO THE CITY OF KYLE FOR PARKLAND PURPOSES.
THIS REQUEST HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PARK BOARD FOR A RECOMMENDATION PRIOR TO CONSIDERATION OF CITY COUNCIL, THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT THAT MR. BROOKS OWNS, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, UM, IS, UM, THERE'S AN EASEMENT ON THERE.
THAT'S A DRAINAGE FOR THE, YOUR, UM, THE UNI PACIFIC RAIL AND THE SPRING BRANCH, UH, DRAINAGE AREA.
AND SO, UM, IT IS, IT IS ESSENTIALLY A DRAINAGE EASEMENT IF YOU WILL NOW, UM, TO THE NORTH.
SO I WAS PROVIDED WITH AN EASEMENT.
DID YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE? OR YOU, YOU, YOU CAN FINE.
UM, TO THE NORTH, THE PROPERTY THAT MR. ABODY OWNS, IT HAS AN EASEMENT PLACED ON IT FROM 2017 PRIOR TO MR. BODY OWNING IT, I'VE RECEIVED THE EASEMENT, I'VE CHECKED IT.
IT IS LEGALLY RECORDED AT HAYES COUNTY AND WHERE THEY HAVE AN ALLOWANCE UP TO 50% OF MR. BROOK'S SITE IS ALLOWED TO GO ONTO THAT PROPERTY FOR A STORM DRAINAGE PERSPECTIVE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO WHAT WE DID NOT CATCH IN OUR REVIEW, AND I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST WAS SECTION 13.3 FROM THE ASPECT OF AN OWNERSHIP ARRANGEMENT OF PROPERTY.
SO IF WE NEED TO AMEND THAT, WHICH I RECOMMEND THAT WE DO AND STRIKE IT, OR EDIT IT TO WHERE IT LEGALLY REFLECTS THE OWNERSHIP ARRANGEMENTS OF THE PROPERTIES THAT SHOULD BE ACCOUNTED FOR.
UM, I ALSO, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER, WANT TO, I DID, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE DA.
I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT, UH, WHAT GETS, UH, DEVELOPED WHEN BETWEEN A RETAIL AND MULTIFAMILY STANDPOINT.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, SOME PROJECTS WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL GETS DEVELOPED FIRST IN THE RETAIL PERHAPS STAYS VACANT FOR YEARS OR DECADES.
UH, THAT THAT'S JUST FOR ME, JUST ON HIS SURFACE, THAT'S A DEAL KILLER.
SO I NEED TO SEE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, SOMETHING THAT COMMITS THE RETAIL TO BE DEVELOPED, UH, PRIOR TO, OR CONCURRENTLY WITH THE MULTI-FAMILY.
WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE, WELL, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
UH, FIRST, WHY, WHAT WERE THE NA VOTES? I WAS A BIT CONFUSED.
WAS IT BECAUSE OF THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE ACREAGE IN THE PUT VERSUS WHAT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER FOR, AND Z, GIVE ME ONE MOMENT, LET ME PULL IT UP REAL QUICK.
IT WAS A DISCREPANCY FOR WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS, UM, YES, IT WAS THAT DISCREPANCY.
SO, SO THEY VOTED NO, BECAUSE THERE WAS A MISTAKE, CORRECT.
IN WHICH WE ATTEMPTED TO ACCOUNT FOR IN THE PUT DOCUMENT ITSELF.
TO PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO THE, THE EXHIBIT WITH SHOWING WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP IN THAT STANDARD.
SO, UM, WHEN WE WORKED TO TRY TO GET THE ACREAGE CORRECT IN INTERNALLY OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT POD, WE MADE A MISTAKE IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE JAIL L UH, DA THAT WE DID, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM TO ENCOURAGE CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
UM, AND I SEE A FEW IN HERE THAT WE, IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD, THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO STEER CLEAR OF.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD, COULD HAVE, IF WE COULD ENTERTAIN THOSE SAME CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS DEVELOPER AS WELL, BECAUSE AS ANYONE IN KYLE KNOWS, WE HAVE ENOUGH BANKS AND MATTRESS STORES AND MEDICAL OFFICES, DENTIST OFFICES, UH, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF AND DON'T NECESSARILY NEED OR SHOULD ENCOURAGE.
AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THIS SORT OF PUD ZONING, I, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND REALLY JUST FOCUS ON GETTING SOME GOOD RETAIL IN THERE THAT ARE AMENITIES THAT OUR RESIDENTS DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE PLENTY OF.
WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH HIM AS WELL.
AND WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM COME UP AND TALK IF THAT IS YOUR WISH AS WELL, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
UM, I THINK I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE FLOODPLAIN AREA AND IF THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT HIS PROPERTY AND THIS DEVELOPMENT MR. BROOK'S PROPERTY OR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
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SO STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT STORM WATER COMING OFF SITE TO SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY CANNOT EXCEED, UM, THAT FLOW FROM AN UNDEVELOPED STANDPOINT TO A DEVELOPED STANDPOINT, RIGHT? SO WHENEVER THE PROJECT IS DEVELOPED, UM, THEY HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN THEIR DESIGN NOW.AND THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE CIVIL ENGINEERING PROCESS AT THE SAME TIME, THE PREVIOUS OWNER OF THE PROJECT MADE AN AGREEMENT FOR WHAT'S.
NOW, MR. BODY'S PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR UP TO 50% OF THE FLOW OFF OF MR. BROOK'S SITE ONTO THE ONTO MR. BODY'S PROPERTY, THAT EASEMENT IS STILL IN PLACE.
SO THAT AGREEMENT RUNS WITH THE LAND.
SO THERE'S, SO THERE'S STATE LAW, AND THERE'S ALSO AGREEMENTS THAT WERE MADE, UH, RUNNING WITH THE LAND FOR THAT PROPERTY AS WELL THAT THE CITY HAS NO LEGAL AUTHORITY TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT? HE IS MET.
WE DO, WE DO NOT INCLUDE IT IN THE BACK OF MATERIAL CUZ UH, UH, WE RECEIVE IT AFTER AFTER THAT.
BUT, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY MAKE SURE Y'ALL RECEIVE IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO READ IT FOR, I MAKE ANY KIND OF, UM, DECISION.
UM, AND OVERALL THIS, IF I MAY SPEAK, I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU FIRST.
UM, THIS WHOLE SITUATION KIND OF MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE AND I UNDERSTAND OUR LIMITATIONS AS COUNSEL AND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T USE FOR REASONS TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE, BUT CLEARLY THIS IS A FLOOD AREA.
AND SO MY CONCERN IS HOW IT IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE ADJACENT AREAS.
UM, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS ON COUNCIL AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE.
UM, AND SO WHAT KIND OF STUDIES HA OR ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES HAVE BEEN HAD BY THE LANDOWNER TO SHOW THAT ALL THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GONNA FUCK AFFECT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES? SO WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONTINUING, CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT REGARDING THAT, UH, THERE WAS A CL OR DONE BACK IN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT YEAR, 20 12, 20 14 TIMEFRAME, I BELIEVE, UM, THAT, UM, BASED ON OUR NEW ATLAS 14, UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE MAY NOT BE, UM, COMPLIANT ANYMORE.
SO, UM, WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THEM ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, UH, WITH UPDATED NUMBERS, UM, WE'RE, THEY THEY'LL NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT WITH A CIVIL ENGINEER SIGNING OFF ON THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE DOWNSTREAM FLOW IS NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING OTHER LANDOWNERS AS WELL.
WELL, IF, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IF IT ALREADY CURRENTLY FLOODS, HOW IS ADDING CONCRETE AND PARKING LOTS AND, AND OTHER, UM, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE TO IT, HOW DOES THAT NOT IMPEDE ON AND THE SURROUNDING ADJACENT LOTS AT A, AT A 30,000 FOOT LEVEL? UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO CUT AND FILL THE PROPERTY.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S A PROJECT THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY FEMA FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
SO IF, IF AND US AS WELL, SO FEMA HAS TO SIGN OFF ON IT.
THE CITY HAS TO SIGN OFF AT IT FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE.
UM, ALONG WITH THAT CUT AND FILL, THEY HAVE TO ADEQUATELY ACCOUNT FOR ACCOUNT FOR, WITH AN ATTENTION WITH DETENTION, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST.
SO, UM, IT HAS TO BE DESIGNED TO ACCOUNT FOR ATLAS 14, UH, RAINFALL TOTALS.
SO, SO WHERE I SIT, UM, I WILL LEAVE HAVING A PUT OR OFFERING A POD ZONING IS A PRIVILEGE.
UM, AND SO, AND IT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT THE CITY HAS TO DO, AND IT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT OUR STAFF HAS TO DO.
SO IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SUCH LITTLE INFORMATION TO, TO, TO DO A WHOLE REZONING.
UM, AND SO FOR ME, I'M GONNA NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REASSURANCE THAT THIS IS WORTH MY STAFF'S TIME.
UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY, CURRENTLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON IT, BUT TO MOVE FORWARD, I THINK IS GOING TO BE EVEN MORE.
AND SO, UM, IT'S, THERE'S, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD, UH, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED CAUSE ROBERTO COOL.
I DIDN'T REALIZE MY MIC WAS STILL ON, UM, MAYOR.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS, 33 AND 34 TO GIVE STAFF TIME TO, UH, MAKE THE SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS IN THE DEA HAVE CONVERSATIONS, UM, REGARDING THE RETAIL.
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BRING BACK FURTHER EVIDENCE REGARDING FLOOD PLAINS IS THAT SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLO SCALE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM, UH, TO THE NEXT AGENDA.SO WE'LL POSTPONE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN, UH, THAT'LL BE THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
UH, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT, UH, MOTION? I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE, IF THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, UH, IN PARTICULAR ON THE, THE CONCEPT OF, UH, DEVELOPING THE RETAIL CONCURRENTLY WITH THE MULTIFAMILY.
SO IF THAT'S, CUZ IF THAT'S A DEAL KILLER, THEN DID YOU WANNA LIKE SURE.
AND THEN ALSO LIMITING THE USES TO, UH, PROBABLY EXCLUDE THERE'S A FEW, LIKE I, I SAW THAT ARE IN THERE LIKE BANKS, BLOOD AND PLASMA CENTER.
SO A FEW OF THOSE THAT WE PROBABLY WANNA TAKE OUT TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE ONE IN THE SAME WHAT'S THAT
I REPRESENT PLUM CREEK DEVELOPMENT.
I'D LIKE TO KIND OF SPEAK TO SEVERAL OF THESE PIECES.
UH, ONE THE FLOOD PLAIN, WE DID DO A FEMA PERMIT.
THERE IS A FEMA PERMIT FOR ALO, FOR THE WHOLE REGION FOR THE WHOLE HUNDRED ACRE AREA, INCLUDING MR. BODY'S PROPERTY, MR. BARTON'S PROPERTY, OUR PROPERTY, THE REMITTING PIECE OF THE PARKER PROPERTY SINCE THE CITY HAS ADOPTED ATLAS 14, THERE HAS TO BE A CONFIRMATION WHICH HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE CITY ENGINEER THAT THE RAINFALL AMOUNTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO USING WILL'S TERMS FROM A 30,000 FOOT MACRO PERSPECTIVE, PLUM CREEK IS CURRENTLY A 20 FOOT WIDE STRING OF WATER PER THE CL DESIGN.
IT'S 150 FOOT WIDE, FIVE FOOT DEEP CHANNEL.
AND NOW IT'S GONNA GET DEEPER AND MAYBE GET WIDER TO ACCOUNT FOR ATS 14, THE PERSPECTIVE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CL OR THE FLOOD PLAIN WORK IS TO ENSURE THAT YOU DON'T CHANGE THE FLOW OR DISPLACE ANY MORE WATER DOWNSTREAM THAN YOU ALREADY GET.
DOUCETTE HAS JUST DONE A STUDY THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE FOR THEIR PROPERTY IN THAT REGARD TO COMPORT TO S 14.
AND WE HAVE ENGAGED ENGINEERING FIRM TO DO THE SAME FOR HOURS.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF COMFORT FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE THAT OUR WATER FLOW DOESN'T AFFECT ANYBODY ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN IT ALREADY DOES, AND IT WILL IMPROVE IT PARA PURSUE WITH THE BARTON STUDY.
AND I THINK MR. BARTON ACTUALLY CAME WHO'S MOST LIKELY TO BE AFFECTED BY ANY DISPLACEMENT OF WATER.
I THINK YOU SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THIS AT THE P AND Z MEETING.
AND WE'VE BEEN CIRCLING AROUND THE SAME ENGINEERS FOR 14 YEARS.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOU HERE ON COUNCIL.
WE ARE THE EASEMENT DONATORS OF MARKETPLACE.
WE PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER WITH THE CITY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO HERE WE ARE TO THE NEXT STEP TO GO VERTICAL.
WE WANT TO TAKE THE RETAIL WITH THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THE MULTIFAMILY PIECE IS CURRENTLY IN AN ESCROW TO BE PURCHASED BY AN EXTREMELY REPUTABLE DEVELOPER.
WE WANTED TO BE, KEEP AND RETAIN THE COMMERCIAL FOR OUR OWN VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP USES.
I'M NOT BIG A FAN OF BANKS OR BLOOD EITHER.
WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
MOVING UP TO MR. A BODY'S SITE.
WE DID DO A TRADE FIVE YEARS AGO WITH THE PARKER FAMILY TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD HAVE EXCESS WATER DETENTION.
THE FIRST SITE PLAN I BROUGHT IN HERE 14 YEARS AGO SHOWED THAT IS LAKE PREVIOUS MEMBERS OF MANAGEMENT S FOR A LAKE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S REPRESENTED ON THE RENDERING, WORKING WITH MR. ABODY.
WE OVERSTEPPED A IT WITH OUR STATEMENT TO DONATE, TO PARKLAND FOR THAT BECAUSE THE CITY REQUESTED IT BE A PUBLIC SPACE.
AND SO THE RESPONSE TO THAT BEING A PUBLIC SPACE IS WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIABLE FOR THE PUBLIC.
WHY DOESN'T PARKS TAKE IT? THE COMEBACK WAS OKAY IF YOU MAINTAIN IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A VOLLEYBALL THAT'S BEEN MOVING BACK AND FORTH.
SO IN THE PUT WE CAN DEFINE WHO OWNS THE LAND, BUT THE LAND OWNER NEEDS AN OPTION TO DONATE DONATED, AND THE CITY HAS AN OPTION WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT IT.
SO WE DON'T CONTROL EITHER ONE OF THOSE
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ASPECTS.WELL, I THINK, YEAH, I THINK WE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CLARIFY.
IT SOUNDS LIKE, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REMEDIED IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
WE TELL SOME MORE JOKES ABOUT THAT.
IT'S BEEN A VERY LOW, LONG, SLOW PROCESS.
AND, AND YOU ARE, YOU ARE RIGHT.
I MEAN, THESE, THESE SITES UP AND DOWN MARKETPLACE DO HAVE VALUE FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE IT BEING MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, BUT THE, THE, I OBTAINED THE ORIGINAL ZONING FOR THE 28 UNITS PER ACRE FOR THAT PURPOSE, RIGHT? SO THE 18 UNITS, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE, THE RETAIL, CUZ YOU WANT THE PEOPLE THERE AND THAT THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS FOR GETTING UP SOUTH, YOU KNOW, AND DOWN WITHOUT IMPACTING TRAFFIC VERY MUCH THE COMMUNITY WE'RE TRYING TO GRAB THAT VIBE TRAIL.
THAT'S WHY WE DID THE EASEMENT ON SOUTH PL FOR A TUNNEL TO GET THAT VIBE TRAIL THROUGH TO MR. BARN'S PROPERTY.
BUT WE'RE JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL.
AND ESPECIALLY FOR MYSELF, IS LIKE, WE GO KIND OF SLOW AND MAKE SURE THAT AS THIS IS GOING THROUGH THAT, WE'RE SURE WE'RE GETTING WHAT WE WANT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THIS IS A POD THERE, THERE AREN'T REALLY ANY, UH, ELEVATIONS FOR THE COMMERCIAL.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT'S REALLY WORKING FOR DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY'RE BRINGING THEIR PROPOSALS TO US ON THESE MIXED USE.
PUD PROPOSALS IS SOME, SOME PRETTY GOOD ELEVATION CONCEPT PLANS FOR THE ENTIRE LAYOUT SO THAT WE CAN GET A, A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF THE VALUE THAT'S GONNA BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY BY APPROVING THE ZONING, CUZ CUSTOMER FORCE KILLS RIGHT AT THIS.
THAT'S UNDERSTOOD, BUT I I'M THE LANDOWNER TRYING TO GET A ZONING IN PLACE.
I DIDN'T COME IN HERE AS A DEVELOPER TO BLOW UP A 50 MILLION PROJECT ON THAT SITE MYSELF.
SO I DIDN'T COME WITH THAT KIND OF ARTWORK.
THAT TO ME WOULD BE MORE OF A PERMIT APPLICATION OR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE STEPS WHERE WE HAVE THE CONTROL IAND AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE, I FEEL YOU I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU HERE BECAUSE I AM LISTENING.
WE WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES HERE.
AND, AND SO IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF YOU.
WE'VE ALL GOTTA FEEL COMFORTABLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
I THINK THERE, THERE CAN BE QUESTIONS ANSWERED ON THE FLOOD.
I THINK THERE CAN BE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, UH, ON THE RETAIL, UH, AND ALL THE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, BUT WE WANNA BE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ONCE WE, ONCE, IF THIS CAN BE PASSED, WE DON'T SEE IT AGAIN.
SO WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES COMES TO A CERTAIN STANDARD, I ABSOLUTELY DO APPRECIATE THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND WE WILL DELIVER WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
WHAT YOU HAVE IS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WERE AND IF THEY'RE HIGHER, WE'LL MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE CUSTOMER FORCE KILL? THANK YOU.
UM, IS KHA, I THINK HE'S OUR FLOOD ADMINISTRATOR.
IF WE COULD, NEXT TIME HE COME, WE MEET.
IF WE COULD HAVE HIM KIND OF GIVE HIS PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
UM, CUZ EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A FLOOD ENGINEER AND, AND PROBABLY NOBODY HERE IS KHA IS PRETTY GENIUS AND HE'S GONNA BE STRAIGHTFORWARD AND HONEST WITH US.
AND SO I REALLY VALUE HIS, HIS OPINION.
SO IF THE NEXT TIME THAT WE MEET, WE COULD HAVE KHA, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH HIM IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.
ANYONE ELSE? AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BE BRINGING THE, UH, BACKUP MATERIAL, THE FLAW STUDY THAT WAS DONE, BUT WE HAVE THE SET STUDY ON FILE AND YOU HAVE THE CL ON FILE AND I HAVE THE HAYES COUNTY AND THE CITY PERMIT AND RELEASES FOR THAT WORK.
SO IF I MISSED IT, I APOLOGIZE.
I GUESS LET'S CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE, THE FLOOD STUFF.
UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE FROM GETTING IT ALL UP.
ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, IF THERE NO, NO OBJECTIONS I'M GONNA REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? YOU WANNA COME SPEAK AGAIN? I'M REOPENING IT SO I CAN LEAVE IT OPEN.
UM, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO SAY, AND THAT IS THAT I'M AWARE OF THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND MR. BROOKS.
BUT AT THAT AGREEMENT WAS BASED ON HIM TO GIVE 13 LINE ITEMS TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER, WHICH PREVIOUS OWNER TELLS ME HE DOESN'T HAVE IT.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT 13 ITEM, WHICH IS THE PERMIT FROM THE CITY PERMIT FROM THE HAYES COUNTY
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FOR A PLUMBER THAT I CAN USE.SO IF THERE IS NO CONSIDERATION FOR THAT 50% OF, UH, UH, DETENTION PLAN, I JUST NEED THOSE INFORMATION.
AND I HAVE TOLD MR. BROOKS, UH, HE NEEDS TO PROVIDE ME THOSE 13 ITEMS, WHICH WAS A BASIS FOR THAT 50%, UH, DETENTION PLAN.
UH, ANYONE ELSE? CAN I, WE JUST CONFIRM THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THAT EASEMENT.
[35.
[Postponed 8/16/2022] (First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 54.223 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services), ‘R-1-T’ (Townhomes), ‘R-1-2’ (Single Family Residential) & ‘T/U’ (Transportation/Utility) to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development) for property located at 1500 E RR 150 in Hays County, Texas. (Jackson Walker LLP - Z-22-0103) ~ Will Atkinson, Interim Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the request.
City Council voted 6-0 to postpone until 9/6/2022 on 8/16/2022. The Public Hearing was left open.
- Public Hearing
]AGENDA ITEM 35.
UH, FIRST READING THIS ITEM IS POSTPONED TO THE LAST MEETING AS WELL.
UH, FIRST REIGNING IN ORDINANCE ADMITTING CHAPTER 53 ZONING OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 54.2, TWO THREE ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES, R ONE T R ONE TWO AND UH, AND TU TO A, A PUT, UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING MR. AON FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1500 EAST, UH, R R ONE 50.
UH, WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD HIT INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
SO BEFORE YOU PETITION NUMBER Z DASH 22 DASH 0 1 0 3.
UM, RIGHT HERE, YOU HAVE THE VICINITY MAP, UH, FOR THE, THE PROPOSED REZONING.
THAT'S A POD, UH, TO, UM, R ONE TWO R ONE T AND RS SPECIFICALLY THAT CURRENTLY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.
AND THEN ALSO HAS SOME TRANSPORTATION UTILITIES AT THE SOUTH END.
UH, THIS IS LOCATED AT 1500 EAST R ONE 50, RIGHT ACROSS FROM SUNSET RIDGE IN THE NEW, UM, IN THE WATER LEAF NEIGHBORHOOD SANDWICH BETWEEN EAST FM ONE 50 AND COUNTY ROAD 1 58.
SO WHEN, UH, THE APPLICANT APPROXIMATELY A YEAR AGO CAME TO TALK TO US ABOUT, UH, WANTING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, UM, THEY WANTED TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO TO, UH, PROVIDE MORE RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG.
UM, THE ONE 50 EAST FM ONE 50, UH, CORRIDOR, UM, APPROXIMATELY AT THE SAME TIME IS WHEN WE STARTED REALLY GETTING INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE WHOLE VIBE NODE SYSTEM AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS RELATING TO THAT.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST, UH, PROJECTS THAT TO COME FORWARD THAT ACTUALLY, UH, COMPLIES WITH THAT, UH, ALONG WITH A LOT OF STAFF TIME, UM, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FROM A CONCEPTUAL STANDPOINT AND THE WHOLE DESIGN AROUND IT IS, UH, BASED ON, UH, A PEDESTRIAN FOCUSED, UM, VIBE, TRAIL ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
SO RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE, HOW THE IN THE, THE COLORED BLOCKS YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ZONING FALLS OVER THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND I'LL, I'LL THROW UP THE CONCEPT PLAN HERE IN IT, JUST A FEW MINUTES, UM, WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE POD, UH, YOU HAVE TOWN HOMES UP AGAINST FM, ONE 50, YOU HAVE THE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THAT'S DETACHED IN THE MIDDLE.
AND THEN, UH, THE, THE, UH, RETAIL SERVICES DOWN AT THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE TRACK PLAN WEST, BUT REALLY THE SOUTH END OF THE TRACK CENTERED AROUND, UM, IN, IN INTEGRATED INTO A, UM, A, A, UH, SPRINGED POND.
THAT'S PART OF THE CHAIN OF PONDS ALONG THE, THE, UH, THE COOL SPRINGS PONDS.
IF YOU WILL, THE DEVELOPER THAT'S BEEN WORKING WITH US, THEY HAVE HAD A LOT OF PATIENCE WITH US AND UNDER TRYING TO FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE ASKING WITH THIS PROJECT AND THE WHOLE VIBE SYSTEM.
UM, AND IT DID TAKE THEM TAKE SOME CONVINCING TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE GONE ALONG WITH IT.
AND WE, WE REALLY HAVE APPRECIATED IT.
THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS SUPPOSED TO BE CENTERED AROUND THE LAKES THAT THAT'S ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, WE ASKED THEM TO PUT A LITTLE BIT OF COMMERCIAL DOWN THERE INTEGRATING INTO A LOOP TRAIL SYSTEM AROUND IT WITH A VIBE SKIRTING, ONE SIDE OF IT.
UH, THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT INTO A LITTLE FOOD TRUCK, A LITTLE BEER GARDEN, IF YOU WILL, UM, ASSOCIATED NEARBY, UM, LITTLE EVENT VENUE, IF YOU WILL, THERE, UH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE ALLEY LOADED WITH, WITH MUES FOR PEOS, FOR PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGH, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A SPINE ROAD WITH THE VIBE TRAIL GOING UP THE WHOLE PROJECT AND WITH, UH, WITH LITTLE OPEN SPACES AREAS TO PLAY, UM, THEY GOT A AMENITY CENTER AT THE NORTH END, UH, AND AERATED PONDS.
SO THERE'S NOT A, A BIG PORTION OF IT THAT, UH, THAT ALGAE DOESN'T FORM THE PONDS.
THEY'VE DONE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK IN TERMS OF TRYING TO MAKE THIS, THIS PROJECT FUNCTION PROPERLY FROM A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, AND ALSO TO INTEGRATE INTO THE VIBE SHELL SYSTEM IN A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT COMPREHENSIVE MANNER.
UM, AND THEY ARE, AND THEY'RE OVER PARED ON TOP OF THAT, BUT IT'S JUST DESIGNED WELL, UM, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE BEFORE US.
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IS THE POTENTIALLY THE FIRST READ FOR THE ZONING.THERE'S GONNA BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT COMES BACK ON THE 4TH OF OCTOBER BECAUSE, UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WANTED IT TO COME BACK TO THEM TO CONSIDER, UH, LAND DEDICATION AROUND THE POND FOR A PUBLIC PARK.
UM, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR A PUBLIC HEARING THIS ADAM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW SEEING NONE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK, UH, TRACY SHIELD, I'M GONNA SPEAK AS PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR WATER LEAF IN REGARDS TO THIS, UH, PARTICULAR ITEM.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL ONE 50 IS A TWO AND A HALF LANE HIGHWAY OR ROAD, I SHOULD SAY.
AND AS THE PICTURE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, FLORES KALE SHOWED EARLIER DURING SCHOOL HOURS AND DURING THE WORK TRAFFIC PERIOD, ONE 50 ALREADY GETS HORRIFICALLY BACKED UP TO THE POINT OF IT TAKING SOMETIMES ALMOST 30 MINUTES, 20 TO 30 MINUTES TO GET FOUR MILES.
SO AS THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME IN, EVEN THOUGH THEY LOOK GREAT AND EVERYTHING, WE JUST ALSO NEED TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THAT TRAFFIC PATTERN AND MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT GETTING MORE TRAFFIC, BEING ABLE TO BE UTILIZED ON ONE 50.
IT'S JUST AT THIS TIME, IT'S, IT'S A NIGHTMARE SOMETIMES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, THIS DEVELOPMENT LOOKS GREAT, BUT CAN ONE 50 SUPPORT IT? THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY.
IF THEY CAN GET BACK TO 1 58 TO HELP OUT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE PIECE OF PROPERTY GOES BACK THAT FAR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? I'M EMMA CHAPA AND, UM, I AGREE WITH, UH, MS. SCHS FRIDAY.
I, I NEVER GO TO THE GROCERY STORE IN THE EVENINGS AND FRIDAY I DID, AND WE STOPPED AT, UH, THE LIGHT RIGHT HERE ON I 35 AND WE WEREN'T MOVING MY DAUGHTER AND I WERE GOING TO WALMART AND WE WEREN'T MOVING AND I SET THE GREEN LIGHT'S ON, WHY CAN'T WE GO THROUGH? AND SHE SAID, THE TRAFFIC ALL STOPPED.
AND I, I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE, THE LIGHT ON ONE 50, WHERE NICUS MUST HAVE BEEN, AND WE COULDN'T MOVE BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE ON EAST, IN MR. TOBI SECTION, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC.
I KNOW THAT I HAVE THE TRAFFIC AFTER SCHOOL AND ON HERE ON ONE ON, ON CENTER STREET, BUT THAT'S A PRICE ME, AND THAT WAS AN EYEOPENER FOR ME, LI LIVING ON THE WEST SIDE.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, MAY THE APPLICANT SPEAK AND GIVE A SHORT PRESENTATION? UH, YEAH, I WANNA LET, I'LL LET COUNCIL MEMBER HAW ASK HER, UH, QUESTIONS.
WELL, I, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, SO IF YOU WANNA LET THEM SPEAK FIRST.
UH, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK OR MR. KAISER MAYOR COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING, UH, TODD KAISER WITH B GK ARCHITECTS FOR THE RECORD, DO WE HAVE SLIDES? OH, GREAT.
UH, MAYBE IF WE COULD START WITH THE SITE PLAN OVERALL.
SO BASICALLY I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT ABOUT SORT OF HOW WE ARRIVED AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH THE DESIGN AND GOING WAY BACK TO OUR FIRST CONSULTATION WITH THE, WITH THE DEVELOPER, WE STARTED WITH THE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS COULD NOT BE A TYPICAL COPY PASTE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION BECAUSE OF ITS, UH, ADJACENCY TO THE VIBE TRAIL, AND BECAUSE OF THE EXPECTATIONS FROM COUNCIL AND
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STAFF.AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, WE'LL TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF IT.
IT DOES CONNECT ONE 50 TO 1 58.
UM, THE VIBE TRAIL RUNS TO THE HEART OF THE PROJECT, WHICH WAS, UH, A REVISION THAT WE MADE WITH THE DEVELOPER TO REALLY ALLOW FOR MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION.
SO NOT EVERYONE HAS TO DRIVE IN THIS SCENARIO, SO IT COULD RELIEVE SOME TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
OBVIOUSLY WE NEED SOME STRUCTURAL CHANGES AS WELL WITH THE ROADS, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S HOLISTIC IN ITS APPROACH.
UM, THE DESIGN ITSELF, IF WE TALK ABOUT UP ALONG ONE, UH, 58 ON, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, NO 1 50, 1 50.
WE HAVE THE AMENITIES CENTER AND THEN A SERIES OF GREEN SPACES.
SO TONS OF TREES AND LOTS OF OPEN SPACE.
IN FACT, YOU CAN'T GO MORE THAN 200 FEET WITHOUT ARRIVING AT AN AREA OF RELIEF.
SO OPEN SPACE WITH TREES, WE CALL THEM MUES, BUT THEY'RE PARKS, LINEAR PARKS, UH, A BIG CENTRAL SPACE FOR FAMILIES.
UH, IT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO THROW A FRISBEE, PLAY FOOTBALL, WHATEVER.
UH, AND THEN AS YOU MOVE TO THE LEFT, OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, THE RETAIL AND SERVICES AND A LARGE, UM, POND, IF YOU WILL, IF WE COULD MOVE TO THE RENDERINGS.
SO THAT'S SORT OF BIG HOLISTIC, UM, THAT'S THE VIBE TRAIL.
AND WILL, DID MENTION THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE ALLEY FED.
AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT, UM, ALL OF THE GARAGES ARE IN THE BACK.
SO THIS REALLY IS A, UM, IT'S A TYPE OF COMMUNITY PLANNING IT'S CALLED NEW URBANISM.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S REALLY, UM, PORCHES AND COMMUNITY IS THE EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE ON THE VIBE TRAIL OR DRIVING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU SEE THE FRONTS OF HOUSES, YOU SEE PORCHES, YOU DON'T SEE LOTS OF GARAGES.
UM, SO ALL OF THE RESIDENT PARKING IS BACK IN THE ALLEYS, EITHER IN THE GARAGES OR IN THE DRIVEWAYS GUEST PARKING IS OUT ON THE STREET IN PARALLEL PARKING SPACES.
SO THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, THAT'S GONNA COME BACK TO Y'ALL ON THE FOURTH IS GONNA HAVE, UM, ELEVATIONS FOR BOTH TOWN HOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.
AND IT'S ALSO GONNA CONTEMPLATE THE, UM, THE LAND DEDICATION AS WELL FROM THE PARKS PERSPECTIVE.
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT I NEED TO KNOW REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GO THIS FAR FROM LEGAL, CAN WE VIEW THE PRESENTATION FROM THE HOUSE PERSPECTIVE NOW? OR DO WE NEED TO WAIT TILL NEXT TIME YOU'RE AT THE ZONING STAGE, RIGHT? CORRECT.
DO YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ONE AT THIS TIME? NOT AT THIS TIME, IT'D BE BETTER TO WAIT FOR THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE TAKE ONE STEP TOO FAR, SO LET'S, SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS COMING BACK ON THE FOURTH AFTER IT GOES TO, UM, UM, THE PARK SPORT, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN PRESENT TO WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT.
SO IF YOU HAVE THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEMONSTRATE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL ENCUMBERED, ESPECIALLY KNOWING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS COMING FORTH.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE ITSELF AND THE DESIGN.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE OVERALL SITE AND HOW WE BELIEVE FIRMLY THAT IT IS ELEVATED.
IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN THE TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL OF THOSE DESIGN SITE PLANNING PRINCIPLES.
UM, THE ARCHITECTURE CONTINUES THAT THEME, UH, THIS, THIS IS NOT, UM, INTENDED TO BE ORDINARY IN ANY SENSE.
AND THAT STARTS WITH THE DESIGN ITSELF.
UM, WE HAVE FLOOR PLANS AND ELEVATIONS OF SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL AS TOWN HOMES.
UM, THE CONCEPT FROM THE BEGINNING WAS TO USE REAL SOLID MATERIALS.
SO LOCAL, TEXAS BRICKS, UM, GOOD WINDOWS, STEEL PLANTERS IN FRONT OF EVERY HOUSE, UM, WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLANTINGS.
SO AGAIN, GIVING OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE SIMPLICITY, BUT STRENGTH.
UM, WE TRIED TO STAY AWAY FROM TREND AND FLASHINESS, BUT TO FOCUS MORE ON SIMPLICITY AND QUALITY.
UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS REAL MASONRY HERE.
THIS IS OLD TEXAS BRICK MANUFACTURED IN TEXAS.
UM, WOOD FOR DOORS SOFFITS UNDER OVERHANGS WOULD, WOULD POSTS HERE AS WELL AS HARDY BOARD, WHICH IS A DURABLE, LONG LASTING MATERIAL.
THERE'S NO FAKE BRICK, NO FAKE STONE.
SO WE REALLY PUSHED AND WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE COULD STAND BEHIND AS ARCHITECTS.
AND THAT WE BELIEVE MEETS THE INTENT OF THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL AS BEST WE UNDERSTAND.
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IS AN EXAMPLE OF A TOWN HOME, UH, HARDY PLANK, UM, MASONRY WOOD SOTS.AND AGAIN, THESE ARE CONCEPTUAL, BUT WE DO HAVE FLOOR PLANS THAT MAKE THEM WORK.
UM, AND A LOT OF THESE MATERIALS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE, TEXAS, TEXAS LIMESTONE, UH, IN THAT VIEW AND HERE AS WELL, COMBINATION OF TEXAS LIMESTONE AND HARDY PLANK AND WOOD AND, UH, JULIET BALCONIES.
SO WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE WITH ALL OF THESE IS THERE'S NO GARAGES IN VIEW.
AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT THE SIDEWALK EXPERIENCE.
AND MAYBE IF YOU CAN GO, CAN YOU GO UP TO ONE, DO, DO THE TOWN HOMES HAVE GARAGES? THEY DO, THEY'RE ALL PARKED, UM, TWO CAR GARAGES, UH, ALONG WITH A DRIVEWAY, WHICH COULD HOLD TWO CARS FOR GUESTS OR MULTIPLE CARS, WHATEVER.
UM, MAYBE COULD YOU GO UP JUST, UH, COUPLE MORE, ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IT'S A DESIGN THING, BUT IT'S ALSO, UM, A PLANNING THING IS THAT, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THIS HOUSE HERE, WHEN YOU WRAP A CORNER, UM, WE DO SOMETHING THAT MOST DEVELOPERS DON'T AND WE WRAP MASONRY.
SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU DON'T SWITCH TO A CHEAPER MATERIAL.
WE'VE ALWAYS ADDRESSED THE CORNER WITH SOMETIMES A WRAPPED PORCH OR WRAPPED MASONRY, BUT, UM, REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE MOMENTS WHEN YOU HAVE PARK SPACE OR A MUSE, IF YOU WILL.
UM, AND FRANKLY SPENDING SOME MONEY WHERE OTHER DEVELOPERS MAYBE WOULD NOT CHOOSE TO DO SO.
SO IT'S TAKING A LOT OF GREAT CARE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE FROM THE SIDEWALKS AND IN THESE PARK SPACES, UM, IS REALLY ELEVATED.
AM I ABLE TO NO, I'M JUST WAITING ON.
WELL THANK YOU, MS. CHOPPA AND MS. SHIELD FOR BRINGING THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS TO OUR ATTENTION.
I THINK EVERYONE UP HERE IS VERY AWARE THAT ONE 50 GETS EXTREMELY CONGESTED.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, I WILL SAY WITH THE CURRENT ZONINGS AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, A LARGE PORTION OF THIS PROJECT COULD BE DONE WITHOUT COUNCIL APPROVAL, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
SO MEANING WE WOULD HAVE NO SAY IT.
THEY COULD BASICALLY GO ON AND CARRY IT OUT.
THE PUT ZONING JUST ALLOWS US TO ALLOWS THE CITY TO ELEVATE THE DEVELOPMENT, TO HAVE MORE OF A SAY IN, IN THE CONVERSATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE STANDARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THE GREEN SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, IT'S EITHER THEY DEVELOP ON THEIR OWN TERMS AND DO THEIR OWN THING, OR THE CITY CAN JOIN THE CONVERSATION AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS TO GET THE BEST THAT KYLE DESERVES.
SO
I THINK THAT THIS IS AN EXCELLENT DEVELOPMENT.
I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT REALLY WENT INTO EVERY ASPECT OF, I MEAN, EVERYTHING FROM THE DESIGN OF THE HOMES, TO THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, TO THE GREEN SPACE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT KYLE DESERVES AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU ADDRESSING THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND IT LOOKS, UM, IN THE PICTURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAID THIS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE 1 58 IS ALSO AN OPTION AS AN EXIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE'S THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
IS THERE SECOND? I WAS SECOND FOR THE CONVERSATION.
MOTION BY CUSTOMER BRADSHAW, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TIM RIZZO IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER.
TOUS HOW MANY HOMES, UH, OR UNITS ARE YOU LOOKING AT PIVOTAL FOR THAT AREA BALLPARK FOR A YEAR OR WHAT IT'S OUTLINED 1 98, MAYBE.
AVERAGE HOME HAS THREE TO FOUR CARS PER HOUSEHOLD.
THAT'S 760 MORE CARS ON THAT ROAD.
NOT, NOT TO BE THE DEVIL ADVOCATE ON THAT, BUT I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS WE'RE HAVING ON THAT TRAFFIC IT'S UNDERSTAND UN UN UNDERSTOOD.
UM, WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH TEXT DOT, UH, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE, UM, THE CONVERSATION WITH THE, UM, DEVELOPER AND TEXT DOT RELATED TO, UM, TURN LANES THAT THEY HAVE TO IMPROVE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, THE, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THE, THE SPINE ROAD AS WE'LL CALL IT, UM, THAT'S GONNA RUN NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THE PROJECT, DOES PROVIDE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT DOWN TO COUNTY ROAD 1 58, IF TRAFFIC BACK TO NEW COUNTRY ROAD OR, AND WHAT HAVE YOU WATER LEAF IS, IS BACKED UP TO SOME EXTENT
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AS WELL.UM, IT'S ALSO WIDE, I'M SORRY.
SO THE, UH, THE SPINE ROAD GOING THROUGH THERE, IT, IT, IT DOES PROVIDE FOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT FOR DISBURSEMENT ALONG OFF OF ONE 50 AS WELL.
UM, SO CAN I ASK WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING IS? THE CURRENT ZONING IS A MIX OF R ONE, TWO R ONE T RS ANDT.
SO RS IS UP WHERE THE TOWN HOMES ARE SHOWN HERE.
UM, SHOWN CURRENTLY IN THE, IN THE CONCEPT PLAN.
IT'S A VERY LARGE, UH, SECTION WHERE IT'S NOT LIKELY FOR RETAIL SERVICE TO DO THAT SKILL IS GOING TO DEVELOP, UM, WITH, UH, WITH TOWN HOMES THEN, UM, FOLLOWING IT WITH R ONE, TWO R ONE, TWO UP TO THE LAKE, AND THEN, UH, TRANSPORTATION UTILITIES.
IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, JUST FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM DISCUSSION ORIGINALLY, UM, THE TU WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR A SOLAR FARM AT ONE POINT.
I'M NOT REAL SURE IF THAT'S ACCURATE OR NOT.
UM, BUT THAT'S NEVER COME TO FRUITION.
SO THE, THE RETAIL SERVICES DOWN THERE AT THAT END FOR WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THE CONCEPT PLAN FITS IN REALLY WELL WITH AN INTEGRATION INTO THE, THE LAKE AS WELL.
UM, THE PROJECT TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS, UH, WATERSTONE, WHICH IS A MUD THAT'S IN THE SAME MARKET JURISDICTION WILL ALSO PULL A LOT OF TRAFFIC FROM A, UM, FROM A CUSTOMER BASE TO THIS RETAIL AS WELL.
SO TECHNICALLY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S KIND OF ZONED IT'S THEY, THEY COULDN'T GET THIS WITH THE CURRENT ZONING.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS THE OUTCOME OF A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CONVERSATION BETWEEN STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER.
THE YELLOW PART OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, IS THE DRAWING THAT SAME CONCEPT LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AT CREEKSIDE.
AND IT IS BY FAR THE MOST DIFFICULT PARKING I'VE EVER PARKED.
AND SO I HAVE A REAL CONCERN, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, BUT THERE'S A GARAGE IN THE BACK AND IT CAN HOLD TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND THEN TWO CARS IN THE ACTUAL DRIVEWAY.
THAT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME BECAUSE THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS WHEN PEOPLE COME OVER, THEY DON'T PARK AT THE, AT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, THEY PARK AT THE FRONT, AND THAT HAS CAUSED A REAL SAFETY ISSUE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR.
SO I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S GONNA BE ANY BETTER HERE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT.
I MEANT TO TAKE A PICTURE BECAUSE I, I HAD A RESIDENT WHO HAD AN ACCIDENT AND I WENT TO FIND HIS HOUSE, WHICH WAS PRETTY IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THE ADDRESSES AREN'T AS, UH, READABLE AS A REGULAR HOUSE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY, AND THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, AND FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE A FIREFIGHTER OR A POLICE OFFICER AND YOU HAVE TO GET TO YOUR RESIDENT, IT IS A LOT HARDER TO FIND THE ADDRESS IN AN AREA LIKE THIS, AND MAYBE EVEN HARDER TO PARK TO, TO GET TO THAT PERSON BECAUSE THE PARKING HERE WORKS FOR SOME PLACES.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I CAN RESPECT THAT.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T WORK EVERYWHERE.
AND SO MY CONCERN IS THE PARKING FOR THAT AREA.
IT IS ALSO THE ACCESS TO 1 58, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO HERE IS DRIVEN 1 58.
IT IS IN NO WAY READY FOR THIS MANY HOUSES, NO WAY WHAT WHATSOEVER.
SO THAT MAKES ME REALLY NERVOUS.
SO THE ONE WAY THAT THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, YOU ALSO HAVE ACCESS OVER HERE IS, IS NOT A GOOD ALTERNATIVE.
WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO IS YOU'RE GONNA CAUSE MORE STRESS TO THAT ROAD THAN THERE ALREADY IS.
THE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA CANNOT SUSTAIN ALL OF THIS.
NOW WHAT I LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE AREA.
WHEN THE CITY IS PREPARED AND READY, TRAFFIC WISE, WE ARE NOT READY FOR THIS.
I, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THE, THE BACKUP THAT THIS WOULD CAUSE PEOPLE EVEN WITHOUT THE ACCIDENT AND EVEN WITHOUT ANYTHING MAJOR ON A TYPICAL DAY, THAT LIGHT OFF A ONE 50, UH, AND LAYMAN GOES ALL THE WAY PAST THE DAIRY QUEEN SOMETIMES BACK TO THE LIGHT.
AND THAT IS A REAL INCONVENIENCE FOR MY RESIDENTS.
AND IF WE CAN BRING THEM NOTHING ELSE, LET'S JUST NOT BRING THIS.
THIS IS, THIS IS HARD FOR ME TO SWALLOW, CUZ IT IS JUST SO MUCH.
WOULD I LIKE TO SEE TOWN HOMES? ABSOLUTELY.
I DON'T THINK WE ARE PREPARED FOR THIS BY WAY OF TRAFFIC.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS FROM A, FROM A PARKING RATIO STANDPOINT, UH, WE CAN ADDRESS THE PARKING FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT WITHOUT QUESTION.
SO THE, THE TOWN HOME UNITS, THERE ARE TOWN HOMES ARE TYPICALLY TWO BEDROOMS. UH, THEY ARE FOR SMALLER FAMILIES AS KIND OF A STEP UP IDEA FROM AN APARTMENT TO A TOWN HOME, TO A SINGLE FAMILY.
AS YOUR FAMILY GROWS, YOU CAN MOVE UP PRETTY MUCH IN PLACE.
THAT'S THE IDEA OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND SO THE MINIMUM PARKING RATIO FOR
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A TOWN HOME PER OUR CODE IS, UH, TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.UM, AND WE MADE SURE EARLY ON THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE CREEK CREEKSIDE PROJECT BACK THERE ON THE BACKSIDE OF FOUR SEASONS FARM WHERE THEIR GARAGE OR NOT THE GARAGES THEY'RE PARKING SPACES FOR THEIR DRIVEWAYS ARE LITERALLY WHAT SIX FEET DEEP OR WHATEVER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP THEY ARE, BUT THEY'RE REALLY SHALLOW AND THEY'RE NOT PRACTICAL.
SO WE, WE MADE SURE THAT THE, THAT THE APPLICANT IS AWARE THAT WE EXPECT HIM TO BE A PRACTICAL PARK, UH, HAVE A PRACTICAL PARKING APPLICATION TO THAT.
SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE CARS, THEY HAVE TWO FOR A GARAGE AND THEY HAVE TWO FOR THE PARKING SPACES THEMSELVES ON THE, ON THE, UH, ON THE DRIVEWAY.
ADDITIONALLY, UM, CUZ WE ANTICIPATED THIS, THIS QUESTION POPPING UP.
WE WEREN'T SURE WHO WAS GONNA ASK IT, BUT WE DID ANTICIPATE PARKING.
HOW ARE WE GONNA RESOLVE THIS? WELL TO, TO BE CLEAR MM-HMM
PEOPLE USE THEIR GARAGE FOR OTHER THINGS.
SO THE REALITY OF IT IS GOING TO BE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PARK, LET'S SAY 50% OF THE PEOPLE DON'T PARK THEIR CAR IN THE GARAGE AND THEY PARK IT IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
AND, AND NOW WHERE DO VISITORS PARK? AND, AND IN GENERAL, I KNOW EVEN WHEN I GO TO PLUM CREEK, I DON'T PARK IN MY FRIEND'S BACKYARD.
I DON'T KNOW VERY MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE SAY, HEY, LET ME GO PARK IN THE BACK AND THEN WALK AROUND TO THE FRONT.
THEY USUALLY PARK IN THE FRONT AND THEN WALK UP THE DOOR.
AND UM, AS PART OF THE, THE, THE STREET DESIGN PROJECT, THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF PARALLEL PARKING THAT YOU NORMALLY SEE ALONG STANDARD STREETS.
THEY THERE'S, THOSE STREETS ARE DESIGNED ADEQUATELY TO A PARK ON BOTH SIDES.
NOW, UM, THE ALLEYS THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING, THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY WIDER THAN YOUR STANDARD 20 FOOT ALLEY.
SO THERE IS THE, AS, AS ODD AS IT MAY SOUND FROM A FIRE PERSPECTIVE, THOSE ALLEYS ARE SUFFICIENTLY WIDE ENOUGH TO PARK A CAR.
ON ONE SIDE, THEY ARE 30 FEET WIDE FROM A PAVEMENT PERSPECTIVE.
SO WE, AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE TRIED TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT WITH AN ADEQUATE SPACING TO GET BETWEEN THE HOUSES, TO GET BACK THERE FROM A PEDESTRIAN STANDPOINT, IF YOU DO HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREET UP FRONT, UM, THEY, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, THE, THOSE ALLEYS, IF THEY'RE AS THEY ARE 30 FEET WIDE, THEY ARE, YOU, YOU CAN, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO GET A FIRE TRUCK DOWN THEM.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A SAFE AND A GOOD DESIGN ALL AROUND.
SO THEN HOW DO WE NAVIGATE TRAFFIC ON ONE 50 WITH THIS MANY MORE NEW HOMES? SO, UM, ONE 50 IS A TECH DOT ROAD.
SO AS PART OF THEIR COORDINATION, THEY ARE ACCOUNTING FOR, UM, TURN LANES ON ONE 50 ITSELF.
AND THEY'RE ACCOUNTING FOR A TURN LANE OFF OF 1 58 INTO THE PROJECT.
UM, 1 58 IS A BIT OF A, A BIT OF AN INTERESTING ROAD PER SE.
A GOOD CHUNK OF IT IS OUR JURISDICTION.
SOME OF IT'S SAM MARCUS FROM AN ETJ PERSPECTIVE.
SO IN THE END, IF THIS SECTION OF COUNTY ROAD 1 58 IS EVER SUBJECT TO A CIP P UM, THAT'S GONNA BE AN INNER JURISDICTIONAL SOLUTION THAT HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR.
I A ASSUME, NOT, NOT ANYTIME SOON, BUT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TECH TECH ONE 50 IS A TECH STOP ROAD.
AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND.
I, IT CAN'T COME FAST ENOUGH FOR ME, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, HOW DO WE SUSTAIN? HOW DO I LOOK AT MY RESIDENTS AND SAY, HEY, GUESS WHAT? WE'RE GONNA JUST BUILD ANOTHER 150 MORE HOUSES KNOWING DARN GOOD AND WELL THAT WE CAN'T SUSTAIN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AS A COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW STATE EARLIER THOUGH, UM, WE, WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE IT FUNCTION PROPERLY FROM A VEHICULAR STANDPOINT.
BUT IN THE END, THE ZONING THAT'S ALREADY THERE PROVIDES FOR A PROJECT THAT IS FAR LESS, UM, GOLD STANDARD, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE.
SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM AND BRING A PROJECT THAT'S FAR, FAR BETTER.
IT FUNCTIONS FAR BETTER THAN THE PROJECT THAT THEY COULD JUST DO BY, RIGHT.
WHICH WOULD NOT HAVE ADEQUATELY ACCOUNTED FOR A LOT OF STUFF.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN ABSOLUTELY AUTOMOBILE CENTRIC AND VERY, VERY LIMITED DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY ENFORCE.
I REALLY, I, I DO, I, I KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
I, I, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S BAD, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS HOW DO I LOOK AT MY RESIDENTS AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT WE'RE ALLOWING THIS MANY MORE HOMES INTO THAT AREA WITH NO IMMEDIATE PLAN TO EXPAND ONE 50, THEY WILL BE DEDICATING RIGHT AWAY FOR THEIR PROJECT.
UM, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM OVER THERE TO THE PLAN, RIGHT? UM, AND AS PART OF THAT, RIGHT OF AWAY DEDICATION, THAT'S GONNA BE THE TURN LANES.
SO THERE'S, UM, THERE'S A CONCEPT CALLED RATIONAL NEXUS.
AND WHAT IT IS IS THE PROJECT.
IF YOU ARE REQUIRING TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS HAS
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TO BE ABLE TO, UM, MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN RELATION TO THE SCALE OF THE PROJECT.SO, UM, WITH THE, WITH APPROXIMATELY 200 HOMES IN THERE, THERE'S, IT'S A, WHILE THIS MAY HAVE SOME TRAFFIC IMPACT, I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE TRAFFIC IMPACT ON ONE 50 AND COUNTY ROAD, 1 58.
UM, THERE IS GONNA BE THAT ON THERE.
THESE, IT IS FROM A GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, A SMALLER PROJECT.
SO THE FACT THAT TEXT DOTS ONLY REQUIRE THEM TO DO THE TURN LANES MAYBE AS ABOUT, AS FAR AS YOU CAN PROBABLY GO FROM A PROFOR STANDPOINT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT MAKES IT EVEN HARDER.
UM, AND THEN TO KNOW THAT THE SCHOOLS ARE GONNA, THE SCHOOLS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON DOWN THAT ROAD ARE ALREADY OVERPOPULATED.
AND SO IT, FOR ME, IT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT THIS TIME.
I, I DON'T, I HEARD YOU SAID SOMETHING A MINUTE AGO, WILL THAT COTTON CAUGHT MY HERE? AND YOU SAID THAT IF WE DON'T GO WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEN THEY COULD BUILD ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT WITH EVEN MORE HOMES WITHOUT A PERMISSION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE MORE HOMES PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT WON'T BE AS HIGH QUALITY THEY COULD DO.
IT CAN BE, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A HUGE CHUNK OF RETAIL UP AT THE FRONT THAT I PROBABLY WON'T EVER, EVER BE DEVELOPED FROM A TAX BASED PERSPECTIVE.
UM, OUR, OUR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS ARE STRAIGHT OUT OF THE EIGHTIES.
THEY ARE DEFINITELY SUBURBAN IN NATURE.
AND AS DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHANGE OVER THE YEARS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CATCHING UP ON THAT.
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THE VIBE SYSTEM, THE, THE IDEA INTO OUR CODE AND THIS PROJECT IS DIRECTLY ON THE VIBE.
SO WE TRIED TO TURN IT TOWARDS THAT.
SO THIS IS A MESH OF, OF, OF GOOD PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, UM, DEVELOPMENT WITH THE VIBE NEW URBANISTIC AS, AS, UM, TODD EXPLAINED, UH, IN A VERY SUCCINCT MANNER.
AND, AND HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PROJECT FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE TO, TO DO OUR VERY BEST, TO PROTECT THE PEDESTRIANS, ALLOW FOR GOLF CARTS AND ALSO ACCOUNT FOR ADEQUATE, UM, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC THROUGH HERE.
AND IT'S, IN MY OPINION, QUITE FRANKLY, VERY ROBUST FROM A, FROM A PROJECT STANDPOINT AND ALL THE, THE ITEMS THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING.
SO I GUESS FOR ME, IT'S, UM, I THINK REALLY THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS, DO YOU WANT THIS PROJECT, OR DO YOU WANT A LESSER PROJECT RIGHT NOW? I'M LOOKING AT THESE HOUSES AND I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? ALL, ALL THE AMENITIES AROUND IT.
AND I'M THINKING, WOW, THIS IS AWESOME.
I COULD POINT TO A DEVELOPER AND SAY, YOU CAN BUILD IT ON THE EAST SIDE.
CUZ LOOK, THEY'RE BUILDING IT ON THE EAST SIDE.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT YOU COULD DO.
IT'S GOT TOWN HOMES, EVERYTHING.
BUT AS THE COUNCIL, I GUESS WHAT WE'RE HAVING DECIDES, DO WE WANT THIS? OR DO YOU WANT A LESSER PROJECT CUZ EITHER WAY IT'S COMING, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT'SS WHAT I NEED CLARIFICATION ON.
THERE'S SOMETHING'S GONNA BE BUILT THERE NO MATTER WHAT.
SO DO I WANT SOMETHING THAT'S LESSER QUALITY OR DO I WANT SOMETHING WITH A BETTER QUALITY WITH ALL THE AMENITIES? SO THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS RIGHT NOW IS WHICH PROJECT DO YOU WANT THIS ONE OR ONE WITH LESS QUALITY.
CUZ WHAT, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU WILL, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU WILL, THAT SOMETHING'S GONNA GET BUILT THERE NO MATTER WHAT.
THE, WITH THE CURRENT ZONING IN PLACE, SOMEONE CAN COME IN AND JUST TAKE DOWN, TAKE IT DOWN AND DEVELOP IT WITH, WITH NO OVERSIGHT FROM A, FROM A URBAN DESIGN STANDPOINT FOR ARCHITECTURE, IT JUST NEEDS TO MEET BUILDING CODE AND THEY CAN JUST SLAP UP A, THE QUICK HOUSE WITH A THAT'S DOMINATING.
ARE WE EVEN A PRE RETAIL FOR THIS? I'M SORRY, HOW MUCH RETAIL ARE WE GIVING UP? HANG ON.
SO IT'S MPT AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE CUSTOMER PARTIALLY AND THEN I'M GONNA HAVE YEAH.
SOME THINGS TO SAY JUST, UH, SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M I'M THINKING ABOUT IS SO, AND YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT, BUT LET, LET ME FINISH UP MY THOUGHT HERE.
SO YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT AND I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW AMAZING IT LOOKS, CUZ I WAS LOOKING AT THE HOUSES AND EVERYTHING, THE TOWN HOMES, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS COVERED, UH, GARAGES FOR THE TOWN HOMES AS WELL.
BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE EITHER GO WITH THIS GREAT PROJECT OR WE GO WITH A LESSER PROJECT, CUZ NO MATTER WHAT SOMETHING'S GONNA GET BUILT THERE, THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA GO ON THE, THE ROAD NO MATTER WHAT, IT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT A BETTER PROJECT OR LESS PROJECTS, WHAT I'M GETTING FROM YOU.
BUT I'M ALSO LOOKING AT US GETTING SOME RETAIL.
DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL WE'RE GETTING RIGHT THERE NEAR THE UH, THE, UH, ROADWAY OFF FEED? I DON'T KNOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT FROM A DEVELOPABLE PAD SITE, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO, JUST UNDER TWO AND A HALF ACRES.
UM, BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, THE LITTLE FOOD TRUCK AREA, UM, A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTHWEST OR PLAIN NORTH THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POND.
AND THEY ALSO ARE GONNA HAVE A DOG PARK DOWN THERE IN THE NEAR
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THE GAS PIPELINE EASEMENT AS WELL.SO, AND I WILL SAY THIS, THE, UH, THAT, THAT RETAIL AREA IS ALSO LIMITED TO SOME EXTENT BY THE KINDER MORGAN PIPELINE SETBACK THAT WE HAVE.
SO THEY'VE DESIGNED AROUND THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THESE EXTERNALITIES THAT WE'VE, WE'VE PLACED ON THEM QUITE HONESTLY.
SO REALLY THE QUESTION FOR US AND, AND I WANT YOU TO ASK ANSWER TRUTHFULLY, THE QUESTION FOR US.
DO WE WANT A GREAT PROJECT OR DO WE WANT A LESSER PROJECT? CUZ EITHER WAY A PROJECT'S GONNA GO IN THERE, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE IN THERE NO MATTER WHAT THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA BE IN THERE, NO MATTER WHAT IF IT DEVELOPS.
SO IN MY OPINION, I BELIEVE A GOLD STANDARD OR A BETTER FUNCTIONING PROJECT FROM AN OVERALL DESIGN IS MUCH BETTER THAN THE STANDARD CONCERNING THAT PLACE.
AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THAT, CAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ASKING, CUZ YOU KNOW, UH, I'VE DRIVEN UP AND DOWN ONE 50, QUITE A BIT.
I'M ACTUALLY UP AND DOWN THERE QUITE A BIT.
AND I KNOW THE TRAFFIC GETS TO BE A PAIN, BUT IF SOMETHING'S GONNA COME THERE NO MATTER WHAT AND THE TRAFFIC'S GONNA BE THERE, NO MATTER WHAT IT'S UP, THE COUNCIL DECIDE WHAT THEY WANNA SEE THERE.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE ARE BEING TRAPPED EITHER.
YOU JUST PICK THIS OR SOMETHING WORSE IS GONNA COME.
LIKE WHY DO WE HAVE TO TAKE ONTO SOMETHING WORSE? I, I, I DON'T SEE THE CONNECTION.
THIS IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TRAFFIC NO MATTER WHAT, BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTION IS LIKE, HEY, PICK THIS OR WE'RE GONNA BRING SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE REALLY NOT GONNA LIKE, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA SET IT IN HERE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE RUSHING INTO JUST TAKING.
I THINK THE HOUSES LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
BUT I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONNECTION THAT YOU'RE SAYING, LIKE PICK THIS OR, OR WE WILL GET SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE REALLY NOT GONNA, LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU.
BUT WHO SAID THAT? WHO SAID THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS GONNA COME AND IT'S GONNA BE WORSE? NO WILL SAID THAT IT'S ALREADY ZONED.
SO THE HOUSE IS ALREADY APPROVED.
SO WE EITHER GO WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR PICK SOMETHING ELSE OR WE CAN PUT WHATEVER THEY WANT.
IS THERE, CAN WE HAVE LESS DENSITY, LESS HOUSES, BIGGER HOMES, MORE ACRES.
SO THE ACRES IN PLACE ARE, ARE THERE HAVE SOME RETAIL AND APOLOGIZE CUZ WE'RE GONNA GIVE SOME RETAIL.
SO MAYBE ADDING SOME RETAIL AND, AND BIGGER LOTS THAT WILL CREATE LESS DENSITY FOR LESS TRAFFIC.
THAT IS AN OPTION TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REASON WHY IT HAS THE DENSITY THAT IT HAS IS TO ADEQUATELY ACCOUNT FOR THE EXPENSE OF THE VIBE TRAIL AND MAKE IT INTO A VIBE NODE TO, TO PROVIDE THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE, THAT WE'VE ASKED.
WE WANT THE VIBE TRAIL, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY RIGHT NOW TO HAVE 200 HOMES IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU JUST MENTIONED.
THEY'RE GONNA GO MAYBE DOING A HUNDRED AND, AND DOING BIGGER HOMES.
AND SO IT'S A MORE QUALITY, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES.
WE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA LIKE OR THIS IT'S JUST LIKE WE HAVE OPTIONS.
MAYBE SAY THE DEVELOPER SOMETHING.
YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS.
I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING THROUGHOUT THE EVENING.
AND WHAT STRIKES ME IS SO INTERESTING IS HOW THE STAFF'S INTEREST IN DEVELOPING KYLE THE RIGHT WAY TRANSLATES OVER HERE.
SO I KNEW THAT WHEN WE STARTED WORKING A YEAR AGO AND I GET IT HERE, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT, I CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TOWARDS A DISCUSSION WITH THE TRAFFIC, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A T DOT ROAD OUT FRONT.
UNFORTUNATELY, FINANCES BEING THE WAY THAT IT IS, THE WAY THAT THEY ARE DOING FEWER HOMES IS NOT AN OPTION FOR US.
HOWEVER, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC CONCERN, WHAT MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE, THIS, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THE PROJECT ALONG.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE A WHOLE SERIES OF THINGS IN THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO AGREE TO.
ONE OF WHICH WILL BE, UH, THE PARK THAT WE'RE DEDICATING THAT WE'RE.
AND I, I'M NOT THROWING OUT A NUMBER, BUT JUST TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, JUST THAT SQUARE AREA IS
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$600,000 WORTH OF JUST HARDSCAPE AND LANDSCAPING, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE, THAT CAME UP, UH, EARLIER, YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE AREA OF A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY WAS GONNA BE PUBLIC SPACE ALL THE TIME.THIS IS THE SAME THING HERE, AND IT WILL BE PUBLIC SPACE.
IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD, WHAT I CAN DO WITH WILL IS I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY TO GET US OUT ON, TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON 1 53, IF IT WERE TO COME BACK THAT WE NEEDED A TRAFFIC LIGHT OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BIG LIKE THAT.
AT THAT TIME BETWEEN MYSELF, MY COMPANY, THE CITY AND TDOT TRY TO WORK THROUGH GETTING THAT DONE.
BUT AT THE VERY LEAST IT WILL START TO SPEAK TO WHAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE.
I MEAN, IT, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR ME TO STAND UP AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE GARAGES IN THE BACK, WE MEET ALL OF THE PARKING, WE MEET ALL OF THIS, WE MEET ALL OF THAT.
IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU, IF YOUR PERCEPTION IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TOO CROWDED.
SO WE HAVE WORKED, UM, PRETTY TIRELESSLY FOR THE PAST YEAR TO GET TO THIS POINT.
ORIGINALLY THE RETAIL WAS UP FRONT AND WE WERE ASKED TO MOVE IT TO THE BACK.
WE ENDED UP, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IT IS, BUT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE BUILT.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT, WHICH ACTUALLY AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND UNTIL THEY EXPLAINED IT TO ME WAS THEY WANTED RETAIL IN THE BACK TO HELP CREATE SOMETHING ALSO FOR THE MUD THAT'S GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THAT MADE PERFECT SENSE TO US.
SO I, I GUESS MY ONLY STATEMENT TO YOU ABOUT THAT IS THE TRAFFIC IS THERE, IT IS A T DOT ROAD.
UM, IF IT WAS A CITY ROAD, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT WE ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE I THINK THAT ARE PETITIONING TO BUILD ON THAT, ON THAT, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE INGRESS EGRESS OUT ON THAT ROAD.
WE HAVE A ROAD THAT'S 50 OR 60 FOOT WIDE THAT SPINES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT CAN COME OUT THE BACK END.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING ANYWAY.
I WANTED TO JUST OFFER THAT UP BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE ARE, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT OUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE CITY GOES BEYOND JUST WHERE WE ARE.
WE WANNA DO OTHER THINGS HERE IN TOWN.
AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO, TO SAY.
I JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN MY SIDE OF IT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, WOULD YOU OUT OF THE 54.2, TWO, THREE ACRES, COULD YOU JUST DO A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY R ONE, TWO R ONE T AND R S YES.
I THOUGHT WE TO PUT THAT, PUT THAT IN HERE.
IT DIDN'T SHOW THE EXACT ACREAGE, BUT CORRECT.
GIVES YOU A FEEL FOR THE SIZE.
SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS WHAT ARE WE GIVING UP IN ORDER TO GET THIS? CAUSE I THINK IT, I THINK THIS WAS ZONED FOR A GAS STATION.
AT ONE POINT, IF I'M REMEMBERING THIS CORRECTLY, I THINK IT WAS A GAS STATION.
AND THEN I ALSO THINK IN THE BACK, WE JUST RECENTLY REZONED THAT PROBABLY WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO, BUT I COULD BE NOT.
SO THAT'S WHERE MY CURIOSITY IS PEAKED.
HOW MUCH RETAIL SPACE ARE WE GONNA GIVE UP? AND EVEN THOUGH THE TRAFFIC IS AWFUL, IF IT'S ENOUGH RETAIL, DO WE WANNA GIVE THAT UP? YOU KNOW, AND IN THE EVENT THAT WE CAN HAVE A GROCERY STORE THERE AND WE CAN SHORTEN THE COMMUTE OR, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING, UH, THE BEST ZONING FOR THE RESIDENTS IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO ME.
I'M LOOKING UP THE, UH, THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THAT'S EXISTING.
SO WHILE, WHILE HE'S LOOKING THAT UP, UH,
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COUNCILMAN OF OUR FLORES, KA, I HEAR YOU AND I WANT TO PROTECT RETAIL.LIKE IT IS THE MOST VALUABLE THING THAT WE HAVE IN KYLE, BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT IS, BUT I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE DEAL THAT WE JUST APPROVED FOR THE KYLE PARKWAY, WHERE WE GAVE UP 15 ACRES OF RETAIL FOR 7,500 SQUARE FOOT OF RETAIL WOULD FORMAL MULTIFAMILY ON A, ON A SUGGESTED ROAD.
I WOULD TAKE THAT AND PUT IT RIGHT HERE FOR SURE.
I MEAN, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.
IT'S NOT THE SAME AT ALL IN ANY CAPACITY.
THIS IS LESS, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE MINUTES, LESS MULTIFAMILY GOING IN, IN TILE PARKWAY, LESS AS FAR AS AMENITIES TO THAT AREA.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE ARE GONNA GIVE UP IS, IS WE COMPLETELY THINK THROUGH IT AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING THE RIGHT SACRIFICES CUZ SACRIFICING FOR HOMES IS NOT WHAT THAT AREA NEEDS.
SO THE RETAIL SERVICE AT THE VERY FRONT WAS, UH, JUST UNDER 21 ACRES AT 20.94 ACRES.
UM, THE TOWN HOMES WERE 11.62 ACRES, UH, R ONE TWO IS 16.98 AND THE REMAINING ACREAGE IS 4.8.
SIX IS WHERE THE TU, UM, IS CURRENTLY.
SO THAT'S FROM MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, 21 ACRES OF RETAIL SERVICE THAT FAR DOWN EAST FN ONE 50.
I'M GONNA CALL IT MID BLOCK BECAUSE WITH 21, AT ONE END YOU HAVE LAYMAN ROAD I 35 AT THE OTHER END, A BIG BLOCK OF 21 ACRES OF RETAIL SERVICE IS NOT PROBABLY GONNA GET DEVELOPED.
UH, HISTORICALLY THAT WE'VE SEEN.
UM, IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE EXCEPT WHERE WE HAVE THE NEW OR IT COULD BE A GAS STATION.
IT IT'S, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A CAR WASH, A GAS STATION, UM, THOSE ENTRY LEVEL, UM, THOSE BOTH ARE LIMITED AND THERE'S A CAR CAR WASH AND A GAS STATION, CORRECT.
SO I CAN TELL YOU WHAT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE RIGHT.
SO THERE'S SOME ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT'S GOT IN BEFORE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE ALREADY A GAS STATION, BUT 21 ACRES IN THAT PORTION OF EAST FN, ONE 50 IS NOT LIKELY TO DEVELOP IN A RETAIL SERVICES MANNER.
IT'S IT'S, IT'S THE WRONG SCALE.
UH, YES, EAST FN ONE 50 IS A HIGHLY TRAFFICKED, UM, UH, STATE HIGHWAY.
AND, BUT IT IS SECONDARY IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY 16, 26 IS SECONDARY FM.
ONE 50 WOULD PROBABLY EVEN BE CONSIDERED SOMETHING RESEMBLING A TERTIARY HIGHWAY.
AND SO, UH, WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE BIG, LARGE, LARGER SCALE RETAIL IS GONNA BE AT THE INTERSECTIONS OF TWO STATE HIGHWAYS, WHICH IS 21 AND ONE 50 OR AN I 35.
SO REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL SERVICES OF COMMERCIAL ZONING, UM, IS, IS PROBABLY APPROPRIATE.
SO THIS IS PROBABLY LESS THAN A MILE AND A HALF FROM ONE 50 AND 21.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S FURTHER THAN THAT, BUT I CAN, I CAN PROBABLY, UH, I CAN PROBABLY GET THAT AND OUT CURIOSITY, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY ACRES COSTCO NEEDED TO BUILD OFFHAND? I DON'T KNOW THE ACREAGE AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I WOULD ASK IS BECAUSE NOT, WE'RE NEVER GONNA GET A COSTCO THERE, BUT IN THE EVENT WE WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING NICE THAT WOULD GIVE AMENITIES TO THE RESIDENTS.
I DON'T WANNA TAKE THAT COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE.
IT MAKES ME NERVOUS TO REZONE FROM RETAIL, EITHER TO A POD WHERE WE COULD LOSE RETAIL, UM, OR TO, TO RESIDENTIAL.
I, I BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUALLY ADDING, UM, MORE AMENITY EVEN THOUGH WE'RE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE FOR RETAIL SERVICES, UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE DESIGN THAT THEY HAVE OF THE PROJECT.
UM, IF YOU WILL, IT, UH, IT'S PRIMARILY COHESIVE DESIGN WITH THE VIBE TRAIL SYSTEM, THE, THE, THE LAKE AROUND IT, YOU HAVE THE WALKING TRAILS, THOSE THAT RETAIL IS DESIGNED TO INTEGRATE INTO THE POND INTO THAT SPRINGED POND.
SO YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE SITTING OUT THERE ENJOYING THE LAKE, ALL THOSE BALD CYPRESSES THAT ARE AROUND IT AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND, UM, SO IN MY OPINION, I BELIEVE THAT NECESSARILY IT'S NOT NECESSARILY EQUATING, UM, REDUCING RETAIL SERVICES DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE LOSING AMENITIES IF YOU WILL.
SO BASED ON THE PROJECT THEY'VE DESIGNED, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY GOOD.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE DISTANCE FROM THE SITE DOWN TO 21, IT'S A LITTLE OVER THREE MILES, THREE MILES.
MM-HMM
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HAS A POOL WATER LEAVE HAS A BASEBALL FIELD.SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DRAW WILL NECESSARILY BE OTHER, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE VIBE, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE VIBE ALL AROUND.
SO THAT RETAIL THAT'S GONNA BE IN PLACE IS GONNA HAVE, UH, POINT OF SALE RETAIL TO, FOR A SMALLER SCALE.
UH, MAYBE THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ICE CREAM SHOP IN THERE WHERE THERE'S A, A SMALL DINER THAT YOU CAN ENJOY THE AMENITIES OF SITTING OUT THERE, OR SOME SORT OF SMALL, UH, I WON'T SAY CURIO SHOP, BUT, UH, SOMETHING SO MUCH OF THAT TO WHERE YOU CAN, YOU CAN JUST ENJOY THE DAY AND WALK AROUND.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE SPOTS FOR FOOD TRUCKS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LAKE AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO, AND I ALSO BELIEVE, UH, IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE CONSIDERING, UH, UM, CREATING, UH, ACTIVATING THE PARK WITH, WITH EVENTS AS WELL, THE, THIS PROJECT.
I JUST, I HATE GIVING UP THAT RETAIL SPACE.
UM, SO I THINK WE'VE PRETTY MUCH SAID I, I HAVEN'T REALLY SAID A WHOLE LOT.
UM, I, I DON'T, I'M NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND, SO I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE MY COMMENTARY SHORT.
UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE FOCUS OF THIS COUNCIL SHOULD BE ON ELEVATING THE DESIGN STANDARDS IN PARTICULAR OUT EAST I'VE FOUGHT AGAINST STRAIGHT ZONING AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES FROM STRAIGHT ZONING FOR A LONG TIME OUT THERE IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE I'VE SEEN DEVELOPERS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CHEAP LAND THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM OUT EAST TO BUILD ROWS OF HOUSES, SUCH AS WATER LEAF, POST OAK, AND ALL THOSE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS DOWN ONE 50 THAT I CONSIDER TO BE, UH, INFERIOR COMPARED TO THE STANDARD THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO FOR ME, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL IS A DESIGN THAT ALLOWS FOR THE AUTOMOBILE NOT TO BE THE MOST, UM, UM, IMPORTANT THING.
AND THAT IS, UH, A BIG PORTION OF WHY I WOULD SUPPORT THIS.
UM, IT IS PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED.
IT IS QUALITY OF STANDARD OF MATERIAL.
UH, SO MANY OF THOSE HOMES, UH, IN THOSE STRAIGHT ZONING, SUBDIVISIONS OUT EAST ARE JUST ROWS UPON ROWS OF SNOUT HOUSES, UH, WHERE ALL YOU SEE LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET ARE VEHICLES.
YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT VEHICLES, PARKING IN THE FRONT, UH, AND, AND CLOGGING UP STREETS AND CLOGGING UP SIDEWALKS.
HOW MANY OF THOSE EAST SUBDIVISIONS DO YOU GO OUT? AND YOU GO LOOK ESPECIALLY ON A WEEKEND WHEN EVERYONE'S PARKED AND YOU CANNOT EVEN USE THEIR SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THEY'RE BLOCKED BY VEHICLES, ROWS AND ROWS OF VEHICLES YOU'RE DOING LIKE THIS.
AND THE, THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE AT, UH, AT STAKE BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING TO HAVE KIDS RUN AROUND THE BACKSIDE OF VEHICLES AND YOU'RE BACKING OUT, UH, INTO BUSY AND CROWDED STREETS.
AND THE AMENITIES ARE NOT WELL FOUGHT OUT AND NOT WELL DESIGNED.
UM, SO I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE QUALITY OF, OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND I DO, I DO HEAR THE, THE DESIRE TO INCREASE THE, UM, OR TO CONSIDER THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON ONE 50 FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT.
BUT, UH, AS WAS ARGUED IN THE VOTE WE TOOK EARLIER, UH, IT'S ALMOST A CERTAINTY THAT FROM THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, IF THEY WENT AND STUDIED THE CURRENT ZONING AND THE IMPACT OF TRAFFIC ON ONE 50 WITH CURRENT ZONING VERSUS WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, THAT THE IMPACT WOULD GO DOWN, WHICH JUST DESTROYS THE ARGUMENT OF TRAFFIC.
BUT SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE WANT.
WE WANNA MAKE THE VOTE WE WANNA MAKE.
UH, SO YOU KNOW, IT, IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS, BUT I JUST WANNA EMPLOY THIS COUNCIL TO, TO LOOK TOWARDS DESIGN STANDARDS AND LOOK TOWARDS MAKING SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME COME WITH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN, UH, REQUIRE STANDARDS.
UH, AND THAT'S, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, IS TAKING THE ZONING THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, AND RECONFIGURING IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN, UH, ENSURE THE OUTCOME, UH, THAT WE WANT.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, BUT, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION ABOUT, ALL RIGHT.
ROLL CALL, VOTE RIZZO, UH, BRADSHAW.
AYE, TOBIAS, NA PARSLEY, NA FLORES KILL NA MITCHELL.
[36.
[Postponed 8/16/2022] Consider and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City Council Authorizing and Creating the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District in accordance with Chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code; resolving other matters incident and related thereto; and providing an effective date. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager
- Public Hearing
The public hearing was left open at the 8/2/2022 Council meeting.
]36, CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE.AM I ON 36, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF COUNCIL, UH, AUTHORIZING
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AND CREATING THE LIMESTONE CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.UH, THIS ITEM'S BEING, UH, REQUESTED TO BE POSTPONED.
UH, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT OPEN AND MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL BRADSHAW'S DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
[38. Discussion and Clarification of implementing a Personnel Employment Improvement policy on grounds to improve retainment within all city employees. ~ Michael Tobias, Council Member]
UH, NEXT STEP IS AGENDA ITEM 38 DISCUSSION AND CLARIFICATION OF IMPLEMENTING A PERSONNEL, UH, EMPLOYMENT IMPROVEMENT POLICY ON GROUNDS TO IMPROVE RETAINMENT WITHIN ALL CITY EMPLOYEES, COUNCIL MEMBER TOUS.UM, THIS WAS, UH, AN ITEM THAT WAS ON THE LAST AGENDA.
UM, I, I DID, I WAS, UH, ONE OF THE DISIN VOTES ON THIS, BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT BACK, UM, FOR DISCUSSION AND CLARIFICATION.
IT'S BASICALLY IMPLEMENTING THE PERSONAL EMPLOYMENT POLICY.
UM, SO I'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS FROM THE ORIGINAL COUNCIL MEMBER WHO BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, WHICH WAS, UH, YVONNE FOR SCALE.
AND, UM, RIGHT UP HERE IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I DID RESEARCH ON AS FAR AS TO TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE, UH, WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IT SAYS, HERE IS THE, THIS IS A CONTINUED DISCUSSION IS TO DEVELOP A FORMAL CITY EMPLOYEE IMPROVEMENT OR POLICY DEVELOPMENT POLICY THAT SHOULD BE, UM, TO ALL PERMANENT FULL-TIME AND PART-TIME EMPLOYEES IN THE CITY, IF NOT ALREADY.
SO THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND MANAGERS AND HUMAN RESOURCE SHOULD COLLABORATE TOGETHER TO BUILD A CONTINUOUS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT CULTURE.
UM, IT IS ALSO THE EMPLOYEE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ALSO SEEK NEW LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES TO ADVANCE OR IMPROVE THEIR PROFESSION.
THE MANAGER SUPERVISOR'S RESPONSIBILITY, MY OPINION IS TO COACH THEIR TEAMS, TO IDENTIFY EMPLOYEES DEVELOPMENT NEEDS AND ITS HRS RESPONSIBILITY IN MY, AGAIN, MY OPINIONS TO FACILITY, TO ANY STAFF DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES AND PROCESS TO ALIGN THE OVERALL GOALS TO THE DEPARTMENT.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LOST, LIKE TO SHARE THIS WITH, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES, KALE, SHE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE AND TO ADD ON TO WHAT THE DISCUSSIONS WERE TO, TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
THANK YOU ALL IF WE COULD SKIP TO THE NEXT SCREEN.
UM, AND, AND SOMETHING I'VE LEARNED DURING THIS PROCESS IS THAT I'M GOING TO TRY MY HARDEST TO EXPLAIN THINGS, UM, IN A DIFFERENT MANNER, BECAUSE I THINK, UH, DURING THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF CONFUSION.
AND SO ME AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOBYS KINDA HAD A TALK.
AND SO I SAID, LET'S JUST PUT IT IN A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT IS I'M ASKING.
UM, SO OUR QUESTION WAS LIKE, WHAT DO WE MEAN BY DEVELOPMENT? LIKE PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT BY THE EMPLOYEE? UH, THESE IDEAS WOULD BE FORMAL TRAINING SESSIONS INDIVIDUALLY, OR WITH THE CITY EMPLOYEE COACHING AND MENTORING, EVEN DURING ANY PROBATIONARY PERIOD, PARTICIPATING IN CONFERENCES AND EVENTS PROVIDE ON THE JOB TRAINING JOB SHADOWING, IF NEEDED AND POSSIBLE JOB ROTATION, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SCREEN.
OUR GOAL, MY GOAL FOR THIS TO IMPLEMENT A P I P POLICY WOULD BE TO REDUCE EMPLOYEE TURNOVER.
UH, AS A CITY, WE ALWAYS WANNA DEMONSTRATE RESPECT FOR THE CITY EMPLOYEES.
UH, LISTEN TO THEM, DEEPLY, USE THEIR IDEAS, NEVER RIDICULE OR SHAME THEM THROUGH COMMUNICATION, SHARE THAT WE VALUE THEM.
UM, WE CAN ALSO OFFER A PERFORMANCE FEEDBACK AND PRAISE, GOOD EFFORTS AND RESULTS TO REDUCE CITY EMPLOYEE TURNOVER.
RECOGNITION OF EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION IS THE MOST POWERFUL FORM OF EMPLOYEE REINFORCEMENT AND RETENTION.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW THAT THEIR WORK MATTERS AND MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CAREER AND PERSONAL GROWTH THROUGH TRAINING AND EDUCATION, CHALLENGING ASSIGNMENTS AND MORE RESPONSIBILITY.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO COMMUNICATE DEPARTMENT GOALS, ROLES, AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO EMPLOYEES KNOW WHAT IS EXPECTED AND AS ALWAYS LEAVE ANY POLITICAL OR PERSONAL FEELINGS OUT OF THE EQUATION AT ALL TIMES.
IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE.
SO WHAT ARE BENEFITS OF UTILIZING PROBATIONARY PERIODS? UM, HAVING A PROBATIONARY PERIOD CAN SORT OF BEHAVIORAL EXPECTATION FOR EMPLOYEES WHICH CAN GET THEM STARTED ON THE RIGHT FOOT.
PROBATIONARY PERIODS CAN BE A WAY AROUND OTHER RESTRICTED POLICIES.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE CITY HAS A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH A GROUP SUCH AS CIVIL SERVICES, SINCE THE CITY IS AN AT WELL TERMINATION DURING A PROBATIONARY PERIOD, IT IS SUGGESTED THEIR SUPERVISOR READ A FORMAL STATEMENT TO THE EMPLOYEE ADVISING AND REMINDING THEM OF THIS POSSIBLE ACTION.
WHEN UTILIZING A PROBATIONARY PERIOD FOR AN EXISTING EMPLOYEE, RATHER THAN A NEW HIRE, AN EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE GIVEN A REASONABLE
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DATE FOR IMPROVEMENT.THIS CAN IMPRESS THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE SITUATION.
AND FOR CLARIFICATION, IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD TO THE LAST ONE, UM, THERE WE GO.
I AM NOT SUGGESTING PIP'S PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS BECOME A REQUIREMENT.
HOWEVER, IN THE EVENT, THE CITY CHOOSES TO UTILIZE A PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WITH AN EMPLOYEE.
I BELIEVE FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY SHOULD BE SHOWN TO ALL WHO ARE PLACED ON ONE IN ORDER TO OFFER A HEALTHY WORK ENVIRONMENT.
I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY TO ITS EMPLOYEES.
I BELIEVE A POLICY REGARDING THE CITY'S CURRENT USE OF PIPS IS A WAY TO DO THAT.
AND I, NOW I WANNA OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY WHO HAS A QUESTION, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MAY I APPROACH TIP? YEAH.
SEE, I LIKE THIS A LOT BETTER.
UM, WHEN WE HAD THE EARLIER CONVERSATIONS, IT SOUNDED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS COMING BACK TO COUNCIL AND IT, IT FELT LIKE COUNCIL WAS GONNA HAVE A LOT OF OVERSIGHT ON THIS.
THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN GET BEHIND BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL'S GONNA BE WATCHING.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF IS GONNA IMPLEMENT AND STAFF WILL, UH, GO THROUGH THE STEPS TO, UH, WITH WORKING WITH AN EMPLOYEE.
BUT YEAH, WHEN WE WERE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, IT KEPT, I KEPT HEARING THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THINGS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL TO REVIEW FILES, TO LOOK AT PERSONNEL POLICIES AND SOMETHING I COULDN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SUPPORT.
SO, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK I COULD PROBABLY SUPPORT A LOT BETTER.
IT GIVES A DIRECTION AND IT KEEPS COUNCIL OUT OF IT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD PROBABLY GET BEHIND CUSTOMER TOES.
THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR, FOR ALLOWING US TO BRING THIS BACK.
AND, AND AGAIN, UM, WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT, UH, TODAY'S JOB MARKET AS WELL.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT ARE LOSING A LOT OF EMPLOYEES TO, UM, RES AS THEY SAY, THIS IS THE WHAT RESIGNATION GENERATION.
AND SO WE DON'T WANT US TO BE LIKE THAT.
WE WANT BE ABLE TO, UH, EMPOWER THE EMPLOYEES AND FIND SOME KIND OF EMPOWERMENT DEVELOPMENT POLICY THAT CAN BE ABLE TO HELP THESE, UH, OR BOOST NOT ONLY MORALE FOR THE EMPLOYEES, BUT TO GET 'EM ON THE RIGHT PATH FOR THEIR CAREER, ANDRE, THEIR MEET THEIR CAREER GOALS.
AND THERE WILL BE SOMETIMES WHERE YOU HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT NOT BE MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS OR THE PERFORMANCE LEVELS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
AND I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE POINT TO WHERE YOU GET TO THE PROBATIONARY PERIOD, THAT WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO ESTABLISH SOME FORM, NOT SO MUCH OF REHABILITATION, BUT A FORM OF GIVING THEM MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT, BECAUSE WE WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED THAT MUCH TIME AND ENERGY AND MONEY AND TRAINING AND SO FORTH.
IT'S TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH RETENTION ON THAT END.
IT'S THE SAME THING WITH THE, UH, THE MEANING OF THE DEVELOPMENT POLICY.
AGAIN, OFFERING YEARLY FORMAL TRAINING SESSIONS THAT'S RELATED TO THE JOB OR THE POSITION, YOU KNOW, EITHER WHETHER IT'S INDIVIDUAL OR WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, DO SOME CROSS TRAINING, ALLOW SOME OF THESE, UH, UM, THESE EMPLOYEES TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT GOES ON IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAVE A DAY TO WHERE THAT PERSON FROM THE OFFICE TO GO DO A CROSS TRAINING IN FINANCE OR ON THE FIELD, OR OUT THERE WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF SEE WHAT IT IS THAT, THAT, UH, THAT ENTAILS.
SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO BRING THAT KIND OF A POSITIVE OUT OUTCOME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, KNOWING THAT THERE WILL BE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT MIGHT, UH, MAY NOT BE HAVING SOME HOW WE'RE HAVING SOME PERFORMANCE ISSUES, WE CAN DO OUR BEST AS A CITY TO, UH, HELP WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND MOVE FORWARD ON THAT END TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE STAFF HAVE, HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS FOR THE RECORD, JERRY HENDRICKS, ACTING CITY MANAGER.
I THINK WE'RE ALREADY DOING A LOT OF THIS.
IF THE COUNCIL, LIKE FOR US TO BRING BACK A PRESENTATION ON, ON WHAT WE ARE DOING IN REGARDS TO THIS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO DIRECT US TO BRING BACK AN ADDITIONAL POLICY IN THIS REGARD, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
IT WAS ALWAYS BEEN MY GOAL TO HAVE A POLICY PUT IN PLACE TO ENCOURAGE, UM, CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, IN THESE INSTANCES THERE, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE PEOPLE WHO ARE WITHIN THEIR 90 DAY PERIOD.
IT IS GONNA BE SOMEBODY PROBABLY WHO'S BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, A YEAR TO TWO YEARS, IF NOT MORE.
UM, AND IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT RETAINING, UH, THESE EMPLOYEES AND THE LEAST WE CAN DO AS A CITY IS, UH, WHEN WE SEE AN ISSUE IS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES
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AND THEN, UM, BRING HIM, YOU KNOW, LET THE STAFF HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THAT.UH, AND WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF BRING BACK A POLICY REGARDING THE PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT PROCESS.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLOSS SCALE SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, PARTIALLY THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT POLICY PROCESS.
SANDRA DURAN HUMAN RESOURCE DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
I DID WANNA SHOW YOU THAT, THAT PACKET THAT I GAVE YOU RIGHT NOW, UM, IF YOU WILL UNCLIP IT, IT'LL SHOW THAT YOU HAVE PART OF THE PERSONNEL POLICY SECTION 2.06.
IT HAS THE AT WILL EMPLOYER SECTION, AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE, TWO 16 VIOLATIONS OF POLICY.
AND THEN THE NEXT PACKET IS, UM, ADVERSE ACTIONS.
SO IT SHOWS YOU THAT THE REASONS WHY THE CITY CAN SUSPEND DEMOTE OR REMOVE AN EMPLOYEE, AND IT'S FOR GENERAL, IT TELLS YOU, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE'S PRIOR HISTORY, YOU SHOULD TAKE INTO UNDER CONSIDERATION, UH, WHETHER THE CONDUCT AND EVIDENCE OF THE INDIVIDUAL WARRANTS, UH, SUCH DISCIPLINARY ACTION, ET CETERA, IT'S ALSO FOR SPECIFIC FACTORS, UH, LIKE IMPROPER CONDUCT, DISHONESTY, DISTURBANCE, ET CETERA.
SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU WHAT THE POLICY IS.
AND THEN ON PAGE 52, IT TELLS US, AGAIN, THERE'S ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR US TO, UH, BE ABLE TO APPLY TO ALL THESE CASES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE POSITION FOR WHICH THE, THE PERSON IS IN INCLUDING, UM, THE SEVERENESS OF THE CONDUCT, THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE CONDUCT, THE RECENCY OF THE CONDUCT, UH, CONTRIBUTING SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, THE ABSENCE OR PRESENCE OF THE REHABILITATION OR EFFORTS TOWARDS REHABILITATION.
SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE TAKE ALREADY UNDER CONSIDERATION WHEN, UH, WE ARE GONNA APPLY ADVERSE ACTION, OR IF WE'RE GONNA DO A P I P AND WORK WITH A, AN EMPLOYEE, IF YOU GO TO PAGE 53, IT SHOWS THAT DISCIPLINARY PROBATION, ANY EMPLOYEE MAY BE PLACED ON DISCIPLINARY PROBATION.
THE SUPERVISOR MAY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY MANAGER PLACE, AN EMPLOYEE UNDER THE SUPERVISORY MANAGEMENT, UH, MANAGEMENT ON DISCIPLINARY PROBATION, WHICH IS WHERE THE P I P THE PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN COMES TO PLAY.
AND THEN ON PAGE 54, AGAIN, WE HAVE A NOTICE THAT IF THE P I P DIDN'T WORK OUT, UM, AFTER THAT, THEN YOU CAN DO A DEMOTION.
YOU CAN DO, UM, OTHER THINGS SET FORWARD IN THERE.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY SPELLED OUT ON WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.
AND THEN ON THE NEXT PACKET, YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS AND THE STEPS THAT WE TAKE.
SO, UH, HOW TO DETERMINE IF A P I P IS APPROPRIATE.
SO IT WALKS YOU THROUGH IT, IT SHOULD BE USED WHEN THERE'S A COMMITMENT TO HELP THE EMPLOYEE IMPROVE.
NOT THAT A WAY, NOT AS A WAY FOR A FRUSTRATED MANAGER TO START A TERMINATION PROCESS.
SO YOU CAN READ THAT STEP TWO, DEVELOP AND DRAFT A PLAN.
SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA MAKE THIS, UH, P I P VIA SUCCESS FOR THE MANAGER AND FOR THE EMPLOYEE? SO YOU HAVE TO SET SMART GOALS THAT THE EMPLOYEE HAS TO ACHIEVE, WHICH IN 30, 60, 90 DAYS, EVERYTHING IS VERY MEASURABLE.
UM, STEP THREE IS REVIEW THE PLAN, STEP FOUR, IMPLEMENT THE PLAN, STEP FIVE, MONITOR PLAN, PROGRESSION, PLAN, AND CONCLUSION.
AND THEN, UM, THERE'S TWO EXAMPLES.
UM, WE HAVE P I P THAT CAN BE AS A LETTER.
SO IF YOU SEE THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, THAT I TOOK OFF THE NAME OF THE EMPLOYEE, THAT'S IN THE LETTER FORMAT OF A P I P, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE TEMPLATE THAT THE SUPERVISOR CAN FILL OUT.
AND IT'S REALLY EASY FOR THEM TO FILL OUT WHAT THE CORRECTION NOTICE IS AND WHAT THE P I P IS ON THE SECOND PAGE AND WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE WHEN THEY'RE GONNA MEET THE EMPLOYEE SIGNS, UM, THE SUPERVISOR SIGNS AND ALL THIS IS WITNESSED AND APPROVED BY THE HR DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT,
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UH, WE ARE LOOKING INTO PUTTING THIS INTO POLICY.UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM.
SO EVERYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN WHAT YOU GAVE US LOOKS TO BE, UM, FOR TERMINATION OR SOME KIND OF NEGATIVE ACTION.
CAN YOU POINT ME TO RETENTION? WHAT IS THE CITY'S IDEA OF RE OF RETAINING, UM, OR EVEN A PROCESS OR THOUGHT WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS YOU SHOWED ME FOR, UM, TERMINATION AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.
CAN YOU SHOW ME THE SAME THING FOR RETENTION? I CAN TELL IT TO YOU.
UM, BUT WE DO A LOT FOR RETENTION.
WE DO A LOT OF RECOGNITION FOR RETENTION.
UH, WE DO, UH, I MEAN, ONCE SOMEBODY'S BEEN SAY YOU SEE AN EMPLOYEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN WITH THE COMP THE CITY FOR 10 YEARS.
MM-HMM,
AND I DON'T WANT, MAKES SENSE.
I DON'T WANT ONE BAD DAY TO DEFINE IF THEY'RE GONNA STAY HERE OR NOT.
AND AGAIN, I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT EVERYBODY GO ON A P I P WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THIS PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT YOU GIVE ME WHERE IT SAYS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR ALL EMPLOYEES THAT YOU DECIDE TO PUT ON THIS.
SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE A POLICY THAT EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND THE EMPLOYEE, THE STAFF AND COUNCIL.
SO THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
I'M NOT LOOKING TO PUT EVERYBODY ON A P I P THAT'S THAT, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE WAY OUT OF OUR CONTROL THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULDN'T KEEP THAT EMPLOYEE.
MY GOAL IS ONCE THEY ARE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHAT IS, IT SHOULD BE FAIR.
AND EVEN TO EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, COME AROUND AND, AND FIX WHATEVER ISSUES THEY HAVE, WHETHER IT BE COMMUNICATION OR JOB PERFORMANCE.
AND ONCE THEY'RE PUT ON THIS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THEM, LIKE HERE.
I DON'T THINK WE SAY 90 DAYS AND THEN COME BACK A WEEK LATER AND FIRE THEM.
SO WE CAN ONLY DO THAT THROUGH A POLICY.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT DONE BY US THAT I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE DONE BY STAFF COUNCILOR.
WHAT, WHAT, I'M ALSO LOOKING AT YOU, YOU DID SAY THAT THEY HAVE A YEARLY, UH, REVIEW, CORRECT? EVERY EMPLOYEE, DO THEY HAVE A YEARLY REVIEW ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY DATE? YES, SIR.
WHEN THE EMPLOYEE STARTS, THEY HAVE A PROBATIONARY PERIOD.
SO AT THAT TIME THEY GET FEEDBACK, THEY GET FEEDBACK 30 DAYS WITHIN THEY GET FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, EVERY SO OFTEN.
UM, BUT AT THE SIX MONTHS IS MORE FORMAL.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY BECOME A PERMANENT EMPLOYEE WITH THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND AFTER THAT IN ANOTHER ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS, WHICH IS A YEAR FROM WHEN THE EMPLOYEE STARTED, IT'S THEIR YEARLY VALUATION.
AND THAT'S WHEN THEY GET, THEY DO A SELF REVIEW, BUT THEN THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY ALSO FOR BOTH OF THEM TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO TALK ABOUT THEIR GOALS, WHAT THEY WANNA DO, WHAT TRAINING THEY NEED TO ATTEND TO MEET THOSE GOALS, YOU KNOW, CROSS TRAINING, JOB SHARING.
SO, SO THE CITY HAS THAT ALREADY IN PLACE TO WHERE EVERY EMPLOYEE CAUSE LIKE WITH US, WE DO OUR YEARLY ON OUR ANNIVERSARY TIME AND WE GO OVER OUR REVIEWS.
AND ALSO WE, UH, ARE ALSO EMPHASIZED TO LIST THREE GOALS, CORRECT.
AND, AND WHAT CAN I DO AS YOUR SUPERVISOR TO HELP YOU ACCOMPLISH THOSE, WHETHER IT'S TO HELP YOU GET BETTER IN SHAPE, OR TO, I WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH, UH, FINANCING OR WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS.
I WANNA CROSS TRAIN WITH THEM ONE DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, ALLOWING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
CUZ I THINK, I GUESS THAT'S MAYBE WHERE I'M AT IS, IS I'M LOOKING AGAIN, I'M LOOKING IN GENERAL OF, OF NOT JUST OUR CITY OURSELVES, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT AS A WHOLE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF COMPANIES OUT THERE, A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOSING PEOPLE.
AND I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING THE EMPLOYEES AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, BUT JUST EMPHASIZING THAT AGAIN AND ENCOURAGING THE EMPLOYEES TO, UM, GIVE MORE FEEDBACK IF POSSIBLE AND SO FORTH IN SO WAY, THEY CAN BE ABLE TO KEEP THE RETAINMENT ON THAT END.
CAUSE I THERE'S TWO THINGS THERE'S ALWAYS PAY AND THERE'S ALWAYS WORKING CONDITIONS.
AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE VERY WE'RE HUMAN NATURE.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPRESS OURSELVES BECAUSE OF THE WORKING CONDITIONS, WHETHER YOU'RE WORKING OUTSIDE OR YOU'RE WORKING OVERTIME OR SOMEBODY OVER HERE DOESN'T GETS TO LEAVE EARLY AGAIN AND I'M HAVING TO STAY LATE.
THOSE KIND OF, UH, DISPARITIES SOMETIMES PLAY IN A WORKPLACE OR IN AN OFFICE AREA.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE ALSO THAT WE'RE BEING FAIR ON THIS AND MAKING SURE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO AN
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EMPLOYEE THAT WE, UH, WE PROVIDE AS MUCH OF THIS IMPACT AND IMPROVEMENTS FOR THEM AND ALSO BE FAIR ON A DAILY BASIS.AND I CAN SAY TOO THAT I SEE A LOT OF, UH, SUPERVISORS MANAGERS GIVING YOU PROJECTS, UH, FOR THEM TO EXPAND AND EMPOWER THEM TO BRING BACK, YOU KNOW, TO PROPOSE NEW PROCESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, THAT GETS THEM ENCOURAGED TO DO MORE AND TO CONTRIBUTE MORE TO THE TEAM.
I THINK STAFF'S GONNA NEED MORE DIRECTION THAN TO BRING BACK A PIP POLICY BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONE.
AND SO THE ONLY ACTIONABLE THING I'VE BEEN TOLD SO FAR THAT WE'RE WANTING TO SEE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT A STAFF MEMBER CAN'T BE FIRED NO WHILE ON A PIP.
UM, SO WHAT I SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING BACK TO THE ACTUAL PERFORMANCE CORRECTION NOTICE IS THERE IS A PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN RIGHT HERE.
AND, AND I GUESS I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ALSO TO WHERE THIS CAME FROM.
THERE'S NO PAGE NUMBERS ON IT, SO, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A FOOTER.
SO WHERE DID THIS, WHERE'S THIS FROM THE PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS JUST TELLING YOU WHAT, WHAT THAT IS AND HOW WE HANDLE IT.
IT'S NOT IN THE PERSONNEL POLICY.
SO MAYBE WE COULD START THERE EVEN TO INCLUDE IT.
SO PEOPLE, WHEN THEY SIGN, CUZ THEY HAVE TO SIGN FOR THEIR POLICIES OR LIKE A HANDBOOK MM-HMM
SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE THIS INTO THE HANDBOOK.
UM, SO WE, WE KNOW THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, UM, OR AT LEAST THEY SAY THEY READ IT, UH, RIGHT HERE INTO THE PRO PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THERE'S LIKE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE DONE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BE CONSISTENT IN A, IN A POLICY.
CAUSE I KNOW THIS LOOKS TO BE A POLICY, BUT THE FIRST ONE IS TO EVEN DETERMINE IF THERE'S A P I P THAT'S NOT A POLICY.
SO THE STEP TWO IS TO DRAFT A PLAN.
AND IN THAT AREA, ALL THAT SHOULD BE THE SAME FOR ALL PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLANS.
NOW THESE LOOK LIKE OPTIONS AND NUMBER THREE SAYS, REVIEW THE PLAN.
UM, SO EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT.
SO DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH, THAT EMPLOYEE, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
IT CAN'T BE THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY THERE.
SO THERE COULD BE LIKE GENERAL GUIDELINES, FOR EXAMPLE, HEY, WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH THE EMPLOYEE AFTER FIVE DAYS OR WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH THE EMPLOYEE AFTER 10 DAYS.
I THINK THE IDEA THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY HAS HAD OF KIND OF LETTING THE EMPLOYEE KNOW THAT YOU ARE, WE ARE STILL AT, WILL THIS, AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO END WITH YOU STAYING HERE.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE MY BELIEF IS IF I WAS PUT ON A P I P AND I WAS GIVING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS TO IMPROVE, UM, THAT I WOULD BE GIVEN THOSE DAYS MM-HMM
WE GAVE YOU 10 DAYS, YOU'RE STILL DOING THIS.
SO AT THE END OF THE P I P IF I STILL AM NOT.
SO IF, IF YOU'RE IN, I P I P DUE TO PERFORMANCE ISSUES AND ALL THAT'S LAID OUT IN HERE AND THE COMMITMENT TO MEET WITH YOU 30, 60, 90 DAYS, ALL THAT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU'RE IN A P I P AND YOU'RE IN A PROBATIONARY PERIOD, YOU STEAL SOMETHING, RIGHT.
OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING EGREGIOUS LIKE THAT, YOU ARE GONNA GET DISMISSED.
I WOULD NEVER, IN A MILLION YEARS THINK THAT IF I STOLE THAT I WAS GONNA BE PROTECTED BY A P I P OKAY, IF YOU'RE DO IT, THAT'S WHY I ADDED THE ADVERSE ACTIONS, BECAUSE THERE IS A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO THAT YOU CAN GET DISMISSED, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE IN A P I P LOOK, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.
THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN IS NOT OKAY.
BUT IF YOU, I'M NOT, IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT, THEN WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO, WHAT ARE WE STAFF NEEDS CLARITY TO KNOW WHAT TO BRING BACK, BECAUSE UP UNTIL YOU SAID, YOU AGREED WITH THAT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I HEARD THE BIG PUSH BEHIND.
SO AGAIN, THIS PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONSISTENT FOR EVERYBODY.
YOU WE'RE GONNA, AND IT COULD BE VERY BASIC, RIGHT? ONCE YOU'RE PUT ON A PLAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE A FIREBALL OFFENSE, THEN YOU'RE, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH YOU FOR 20 DAYS OR WHATEVER.
YOU'LL BE REMINDED AFTER 10 DAYS, OR THERE'LL BE A FOLLOW UP AFTER THESE DAYS, IT'S PUT INTO THE, THE POLICY.
AND I THINK THIS, WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY IS A GREAT BEGINNING, BUT WHEN I ASKED THE CITY FOR THIS POLICY, I WAS NOT GIVEN THIS UNTIL RIGHT NOW.
SO PLACING THIS INTO A HANDBOOK WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIGN AND SAY, YES, I HAVE, IT IS A GREAT START.
BUT ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE CONSISTENCY
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FOR THE PLANS FOR EVERYBODY.AND AGAIN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC, RIGHT? YOU CAN EVEN LEAVE A BLANK DOWN HERE FOR WHAT YOU WANT FOR THAT SPECIFIC PERSON.
BUT INITIALLY IT SHOULD BE, WE'RE GONNA PUT YOU ON A PLANE FOR 30 DAYS AFTER FIVE DAYS, WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW UP AFTER 10 DAYS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A REMINDER THAT WE ARE STILL AT WILL.
SO THE EMPLOYEE KNOWS WHAT TO, TO EXPECT, RIGHT? SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I'M HEARING THAT I'M HEARING THAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND.
BUT THE FIRST THING I WANT TO ADDRESS IS THE P I P ITSELF IS A RETENTION TOOL.
IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY AS SUPERVISORS TO MEET WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC THINGS WHERE THEY'RE NOT LIVING UP TO OUR EXPECTATIONS OF THEM.
THEY GET TO TELL US IF WE'RE NOT LIVING UP TO THEIR EXPECTATIONS TOGETHER, WE MAP OUT, UH, A PATH TOWARDS SUCCESS TO WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY CAN CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND BEING PRODUCTIVE.
WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN INCORPORATED INTO OUR EXISTING PERSONNEL POLICY AND THAT WE CAN, CAN DO.
AND WE CAN, LIKE SANDRA SAID, ALL OF THEM ARE DIFFERENT.
SO, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT A PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT POLICY IS THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PATH TO BEING TERMINATED.
THAT IT'S A PATH TO RETAINING YOUR EMPLOYMENT, BUT ALL OF THE ONES THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH EVER, WHEREVER I'VE WORKED, INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT FAILURE TO MEET THE TERMS OF THIS POLICY WILL LEAD TO ADDITIONAL REPERCUSSIONS UP TO AND INCLUDING TERMINATION.
BUT TERMINATION IS NOT OUR GOAL OF WRITE A, A PEP IT'S RETAINMENT.
THAT IS EX THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANNA HEAR.
SO WHEN THERE IS, WHEN IT SAYS IN THE POLICY, WE'RE GONNA GIVE SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, 30 DAYS TO IMPROVE, UNLESS THERE IS A FIREBALL OFFENSE, THEN I WOULD EXPECT THE CITY TO GIVE THAT EMPLOYEE 30 DAYS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN A POLICY, CUZ THAT BRINGS FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY TO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES, CUSTOMER PARTIALLY.
UM, SO I WISH THAT THIS WOULD'VE BEEN PUBLIC ON THE CITY OF CAL BEACH.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A POLICY ALREADY IN PLACE OR A THERE'S THERE'S NOT A POLICY.
THERE'S NOT A POLICY IN PLACE.
UM, IT'S A PRACTICE, IT'S A PRACTICE.
SO LET ME SEE IF I AM UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A POLICY WITH KIND OF LIKE THESE PRACTICES IMPLEMENTED, ADDED TO THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK? YES.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE CANNOT SPECIFY A NUMBER OF DATES CUZ EVERY EMPLOYEE'S GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT.
AND THAT'S WHERE OUR QUESTION ARE.
HOW ARE, IS THERE A NUMBER THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE? WOULD WE LIKE TO GIVE, CUZ WHO'S GONNA GIVE 15 DAYS, YOU HAVE 15 DAYS TO BE BETTER.
AND IT REALLY DEPENDS BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY MAY TAKE 90 DAYS TO ACHIEVE A GOAL AND SOMEBODY MAY TAKE 30 DAYS, IT DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SPECIFY, MAYBE WE CAN PUT A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DATES THAT THE POLICY CAN HAVE.
LIKE IF I, THIS DAY YOU HAVE NOT IMPROVED THEN, OR, BUT MAYBE A MINIMUM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU AT LEAST 30 A MONTH TO GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER AND, AND TO IMPROVE YOURSELF.
IF I MIGHT JUST ADD, WHEN I HAD ON MY, MY ORIGINAL CONCEPT WAS IS WHEN UTILIZING A PROBATION PERIOD FOR AN EXISTING EMPLOYEE THAT CAN IMPRESS THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE, OF THE SITUATION, THE EMPLOYEE SHALL BE GIVING A REASONABLE DATE FOR IMPROVEMENT.
BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU'RE CORRECT.
IF THE PERSON GOES OUT AND CRASHES THE CAR OR CASHES THE TRUCK, UH, THAT COULD LEAD TO AN AUTOMATIC TERMINATION.
AND THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, OF COURSE YOU YOU'VE GOTTA DO.
I WOULD ADD, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT, BUT I WOULD ADD THAT IF IT BECOMES APPARENT WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME THAT THIS EMPLOYEE IS NOT DOING THEIR PART TO, TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT WE'VE ASKED THEM AND IS IN FACT PURPOSELY NOT DOING THAT, YOU DON'T NEED 30 DAYS TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
RIGHT? WELL, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT LIKE SAY WE HAVE A LANDSCAPER, SOMEONE ON LANDSCAPE TEAM WHO'S PERPETUALLY LATE AND YOU PUT 'EM ON A 30 DAY PERFORMANCE AND MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEY JUST KEEP SHOWING UP LATE AND THEN YOU PUT THEM ON THAT AND THEN THEY JUST CONTINUE TO SHOW UP LATE.
YOU HAVE TO WAIT 30 DAYS TO NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO EVEN PUT 'EM ON A P I P YOU COULD JUST WARN THEM AND THEN FIRE THEM.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN THE CITY FILLS THE NEED TO UTILIZE A P I P LET'S GIVE THAT SOME CONSISTENCY.
IF, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN TO WORK LATE 30 DAYS A MONTH, I GET IT.
I'M AGAINST WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS
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RETAINMENT.I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE ARE, IF THERE IS STAFF THAT WE COULD RETRAIN, MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN HERE.
I KNOW, I KNOW AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE SAME FIELD, LIKE SAY, UH, THE SAME PARK FOREVER.
THEY PROBABLY JUST NEED TO MOVE TO ANOTHER PARK.
AND THEN YOU PUT 'EM ON A P I P IF, IF YOU FEEL NECESSARY AND THEN YOU SAY, OKAY, THIS WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE CAN KIND OF, UH, SERIOUS, STRAIGHT.
AND AT THE SAME TIME TO MR. ANN'S POINT, EVERYTHING IS A CASE BY CASE.
CUZ WE COULD HAVE A PERSON WHO'S BEEN HERE 15 YEARS AND THEY'RE STARTING TO COME IN LATE AND COME IN LATE.
AND THEN WE PUT 'EM ON THIS PERFORMANCE PLAN.
THEY WOULD REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE A SICK CHILD AT HOME AND THEY HAVE A SICK HUSBAND.
AND THEY JUST SAID, I'M SORRY, I'M RUNNING LATE ALL THE TIME, BUT THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING.
DO WE START PUNISHING THEM? NO.
OR NO, DO WE DO WE, OR ARE WE GONNA BE CONSISTENT? BECAUSE IF THE PERSON OVER HERE LIKE MAYOR MITCHELL SAID, THE GUYS HAVE CONTINUALLY BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS CALLING IN SICK, RUNNING LATE.
YOU KNOW, WE PUT 'EM ON THIS PLAN, BUT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR 15, 20 YEARS.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY HAVE A ILL PARENT AT THE HOUSE THAT THEY'RE CARING FOR.
AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY CALLING IN SICK, WHICH IS, COULD BE A POLICY VIOLATION.
WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE? WELL, WE WOULD PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW THAT CUZ WE, BY THE TIME YOU GET TO PIP, THERE'S ALREADY BEEN COACHING AND FACE TO FACE DISCUSSIONS.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE AS A WORK GROUP.
SO WE WOULD ALREADY KNOW THAT NOW WE HAVE OTHER POLICIES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT LOVED ONE OR WHATEVER THAT SITUATION IS.
THANK YOU SO LONG AS IT IS A TOOL THAT STAFF CAN USE THAT STAFF DISCRETION TO RETAIN OR IMPROVE AN EMPLOYEE SITUATION.
WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT IT BECOMES A HANDCUFF THAT PREVENTS STAFF FROM ACHIEVING THE GOALS THAT THEY HAVE SET OUT.
SO I MEAN, I HOPE THAT YOU, AS AN HR DIRECTOR, YOU WERE IN TRUST ME THAT WE WOULD BE FAIR WITH THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE PUT AND AT P I P YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE DO 30, 60, 90 DAYS.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GONNA SAY YOU HAVE 10 DAYS TO DO THIS AND IF NOT, YOU'RE YOU'RE OUTTA HERE.
WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU SAID TRUST BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
BOTH OF YOU, ALL OF YOU AND IN DOING YOUR JOB AND KNOW THAT I TRUST YOU TO MAKE THOSE HARD DECISIONS WHEN A P I P IS NECESSARY AND WHEN IS NOT NECESSARY AND WHEN TERMINATION IS NECESSARY, THAT'S YOUR JOB.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO DO.
I'M NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN PUTTING ANYTHING INTO A POLICY BECAUSE I DO AGREE IT IS, IS BINDING.
AND AS MR. TOBY SAID, AND AS YOU HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY IS THAT IT IS BY A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND YOU SIMPLY CANNOT CREATE A BLACK AND WHITE POLICY FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS SO MUCH GRAY AREA.
SO JUST MY 2 CENTS, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN BEING ANYBODY'S BOSS, ANYBODY'S MANAGER.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE TO DO.
UM, SO I, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S MY PIECE.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THIS POLICY.
UH, I WOULD BE OPEN TO IT ONLY IF IT IS CLEAR IN THE WAY THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING IT, THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE DISCRETION THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT THAT I, I, I WILL SAY TO SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE THERE IS THAT IF IT, IF THE, IF IT'S NOT IN THE HANDBOOK AT ALL, IT, IT, IT COULD BE BENEFICIAL POTENTIALLY FOR YOU AS WELL TO LAY THAT OUT IN FRONT OF EMPLOYEES, UH, AS THEY'RE BEING HIRED.
SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING FORWARD IS A PROPOSAL, UH, THAT SHOWS IN THE HANDBOOK, HOW YOU WOULD HANDLE A PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO PUT SOMEONE ON THAT AND WHAT THE SORT OF PARAMETERS MIGHT BE? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY BENEFICIAL.
SO ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[39. Discussion and possible action to seek engagement from a group communication specialist for Council. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]
UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 39, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO SEEK ENGAGEMENT FROM A GROUP COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST FOR COUNCIL CUSTOMER, PARTIALLY.SO IT, IT IS REALLY NO SECRET THAT AT A TIMES, COUNCIL HAS DISAGREEMENTS AND I BELIEVE HAVING DISAGREEMENTS, ISN'T A BAD THING.
AS LONG AS THE COMMUNICATION IS ALWAYS GET RESPECTFUL.
UM, BUT WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL SITUATIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH, UM, WE HAVE HAD DISAGREEMENTS THAT HAVE GOTTEN OUTTA HAND, UM, AND THE COMMUNICATION HAS BECOME TOXIC.
I THINK THAT THAT CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR COUNSEL TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.
UM, SO I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD, DESPITE, YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGES WE'RE FACING AS A CITY, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER.
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UM, HERE IN THE DI AND EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOTICED THAT, UM, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT REALLY DOES IMPRESS HELP US PRESENT THE WAY THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF THE CITY.SO, UM, MY ASK TODAY IS FOR YOUR, YOUR OPINION, NUMBER ONE AND SECOND, TO CONSIDER INTO HOPEFULLY DIRECT STAFF TO ENGAGE WITH A GROUP COMMUNICATION COMPANY, UH, SOME SORT OF, UM, MEDIATOR, UH, TEACHER, UH, THERAPIST.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANNA CALL IT.
LIKE I JUST 20 MINUTES AGO, I FEEL LIKE I MIGHT HAVE RAISED MY VOICE A LITTLE AND I DIDN'T WANNA DO THAT.
SO, UM, IN ORDER TO KEEP THE COMMUNICATION EFFECTIVE BETWEEN ALL OF US AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT TAKING VOTES OR DECISIONS OUT OF SPITE.
UM, I GUESS SOMEBODY TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE LISTENING, WE'RE LISTENING TO UNDERSTAND, NOT TO JUST COME BACK WITH A RESPONSE AND HOW AM I GONNA WIN THIS ARGUMENT, WHETHER I AGREE OR NOT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
AND I FEEL LIKE THE ITEM THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE ARE NOT COMMUNICATING THE RIGHT WAY THOUGHTS AND SOMETIMES STICKS CHIPS AND SALSA, BUT NOT ALL THE TIME, THAT'S GONNA BE THE CASE.
YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE DID IT LIKE IN A DAY RETREAT WHERE WE ALL GET TOGETHER AND WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, UH, VOICE OUR CONCERNS, OUR FRUSTRATIONS WITH A COACH THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY PROBABLY BE A WIN.
SO HAVING, UH, SOME KIND OF A COACH THERE, THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER WORD.
I WANNA THINK OF A SHRINK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ANYWAY, UH, HAVING A COACH WOULD BE GREAT, BUT REALLY IT'S COMMUNICATION.
IT'S ALWAYS BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND REMEMBER THAT THESE VOTES AREN'T PERSONAL, WHAT WE WE'RE DOING UP HERE AS A JOB, WE ARE ALL ELECTED.
WE'RE ALL REPRESENTATIVES OF THIS CITY.
EVEN IF YOU'RE IN A DISTRICT, YOUR VOTE AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY IS NOT JUST YOUR DISTRICT IS NOT JUST, UH, SMALL AREA.
EVERY VOTE UP HERE AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY.
AND SOMETIMES I THINK WE FORGET THAT AS A COUNCIL, BUT IT'S ALSO RESPECTING EACH OTHER.
IT'S, UH, ALLOWING EACH OTHER TO FINISH WHEN THEY'RE SPEAKING.
UM, THERE THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, BUT IT'S HAVING THAT COMMUNICATION IS KEY.
I MEAN, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS UP HERE, DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT PERSONAL, IT'S WORK, WE'RE DOING A JOB AND LET'S, LET'S, IT'S MOVING FORWARD, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY BE IN FAVOR OF, UH, BRINGING A COACH IN TO HELP US GET THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH IN A DAY, UM, SABBATICAL OR SOMETHING, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, UM, DEFINITELY WOULD BE A WIN FOR US.
I THINK AS A COUNCIL, COMMUNICATION'S ALWAYS KEY CUSTOMER FLOW SCALE.
UM, I'M NEVER OPPOSED TO, UM, LEARNING A NEW WAY TO COMMUNICATE.
UM, I THINK WE TRY TO DO THAT EVERY DAY.
UH, BUT WITH THAT SAID, I ALSO THINK THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA DO, THIS IS GONNA BE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
AND SO MAYBE WE PAY FOR IT OURSELVES.
I WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING IN ON SOME TYPE OF COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST.
UM, JUST SO, I MEAN, AGAIN, I'D HATE TO PUT THAT OFF ON THE, ON THE RESIDENTS.
UM, I, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO SPLIT MY HALF OF THAT OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT, UM, I THINK IN ORDER TO, TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WORKING RELATIONSHIP AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN HAVE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT VOTING OUT OF SPITE OR OUT OF ANGER OUT OF FRUSTRATION, THAT WE BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THAT IN, IN SOME WAY, IN WHATEVER LITTLE TRUST THAT WE CAN BUILD, THAT, THAT WE DO THAT ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS.
WELL, IT'S, UH, SEPTEMBER THERE'S AN ELECTION CUZ SO ONE THING I HAVE NOTICED IS THAT THE DYNAMIC, THE COMMUNICATION DYNAMIC CHANGES EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO THAT'S, UH, A BIT OF A CHALLENGE, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, FEBRUARY VISIONING WORKSHOP MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO INCORPORATE THAT.
SO IT, MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST A FACILITATOR, WHO'S HELPING US WITH STRATEGIC GOALS, BUT THAT WE CARVE OUT SOME PORTION OF THE TIME WHILE WE'RE THERE, UH, TO WORK ON COMMUNICATION AND TRYING TO SET, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UH, I THINK THE SCHOOL BOARD AND IT'S, I I'VE NEVER REALLY GOTTEN BEHIND IT CUZ I, I HAVE MY OWN CRITICISMS OF IT, BUT UH, THEY DO THEIR OWN COUNT OR UH, MEMBER GOALS.
WHAT IS IT CALLED? IT'S LIKE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.
AND THEY JUST STAY THERE ALL DAY AND, AND WORK IT OUT AND THEY, BUT THEY COME UP WHAT THEY INTERNALLY, HOW THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE THEIR COMMUNICATION.
AND I THINK THEY DO THEIR BEST TO, AND HONESTLY I, I WATCH THEIR MEETINGS AND THEY THEY'RE,
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THEY THEY'RE PRETTY WELL, UH, KEPT UNDER WRAPS.AND I WILL ALSO SAY FRANKLY THAT WHILE I KNOW THAT WE GET KIND OF HEATED, I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING TERRIBLE.
AND RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY, UH, IN THIS CURRENT CURRENT ITERATION, UH, I, I, I WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE US PASSING MARKS.
UM, BUT IT CAN, IT CAN SLIP BACK EAS, UH, EASILY AND IT'S ON EACH OF US.
BUT SO ONE, ONE THOUGHT IS, UH, TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE GIVES OUT A LOT OF RESOURCES ON THAT.
THE, THE UPCOMING CONFERENCE, UH, IN OCTOBER, THAT'LL BE IN SAN ANTONIO THAT YOU CAN DRIVE TO, UH, THERE'LL BE, UH, DIFFERENT BREAKOUT SESSIONS THERE THAT YOU CAN GO TO FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, AS FAR AS PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR COUNCIL COMMUNICATION.
I THINK THERE WAS A GOOD, UH, ARTICLE AND RESOURCES THAT WERE SENT LIKE A MONTH OR TWO AGO, UH, FROM CITY MANAGER, UH, ABOUT COUNCIL COMMUNICATION, UH, AS WELL.
UH, BUT SO THAT WOULD BE, MY INTEREST WOULD BE TO SAY, IF WE WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY COME IN, NOT JUST A FACILITATOR, WHO'S FOCUSED ON THE FACILITATING IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE, BUT ALSO EXERCISES, COMMUNICATION EXERCISES, OR EVEN COMING UP WITH AN AGREED, LIKE WHAT THE SCHOOL SCHOOL DISTRICT DOES.
I'D BE OPEN TO THAT, BUT IT, IT TAKES TIME TO FLESH THAT OUT.
SO YOU GOTTA DO IT AT LIKE A VISIONING WORKSHOP.
AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THE PERFECT TIME BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE NEWEST, NEWEST MEMBER WILL BE SITTING HERE WITH US.
SO THAT WILL BE A GREAT, GREAT WAY TO WELCOME AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SET THOSE BOUNDARIES.
WHAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS NOT FOR US TO EVER GET TO THE POINT THAT IT BECOMES TOXIC AND THEN DISRUPTS THE, THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN US.
AND THEN IT TAKES, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS UNTIL WE GET BACK TO, OKAY, WE ARE, WE ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER AGAIN.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO AVOID.
CAN WE JUST LIKE HAVE A RED CAR AND A BLUE CAR, LIKE, HEY, YOU ARE JUST ABOUT TO GO TO THE LIMIT THAT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET THERE.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE TAKING IT DAY OFF THE VISIONING WORKSHOP, JUST TO WORK THROUGH ALL OF THAT, THAT WILL BE PHENOMENAL, JUST ACTIVITIES.
AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WE CAN DO SOMETHING OUT.
SO, UM, I DO, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT OUR VISIONING WORKSHOP SHOULD HAVE AN EXTRA DAY LIKE, CUZ RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT'S WORKING IS WE'RE GETTING UP THERE AND IT'S JUST, EVERY MINUTE OF THE DAY IS DEVOTED TO TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE BIG IDEAS, THE BIG THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON MM-HMM
AND I THINK THOSE COULD BE VALUABLE, UH, SETTING THE TONE FOR A YEAR.
SO WE, UH, WE COULD SET AN ITEM, MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK, WE NEED TO, WE ALSO NEED TO PLAN THAT THING AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT SORT OF LAST MINUTE.
SO THAT WE'VE REALLY THOUGHT THROUGH THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
UM, SO IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE STARTED PLANNING THAT LIKE, UM, BEFORE THE HOLIDAY, THE FIRST HOLIDAY, IT WAS LIKE IN OCTOBER, BECAUSE NOVEMBER WOULD BE HERE SOON AND EVERYTHING WAS FINALIZED BY THEN, AS FAR AS LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING, WHAT ARE WE DOING? BUT, UH, I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE WAS THE IDEAS OF GROUP BONDING AND STUFF, BUT I THINK IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, UM, OF LIKE WHAT A COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY'S DOING, YES.
HAVE A FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND JUST FOCUS ON THAT HAPPEN A SPECIFIC TIME WHERE WE CAN JUST FOCUS ON GOAL SETTING AND COMMUNICATION FOR THE FOLLOWING.
YOU WOULD DO THE, THE TRUST BALL THING.
I EVEN THINK THAT JUST, YOU WOULD TRY ME HAVING THAT AS THE OPENING OF THE VISION AND WORKSHOP THAT WAY.
WHEN WE GO INTO THE ACTUAL ITEMS, THEN WE CAN PRACTICE EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S THE HEADING ON THAT ITEM FROM, FROM STAFF STANDPOINT, DO Y'ALL NEED, DO YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS AS FAR AS WHEN WE MIGHT BE BRINGING BACK A PLAN FOR THE VISIONING WORKSHOP, AS FAR AS SETTING THE DATES, SOME FRAMEWORKS, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UH, I THOUGHT WE MIGHT WAIT TILL AFTER THE ELECTION TO SEE WHAT NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS WE MIGHT HAVE, BUT WE CAN START DOING THAT.
IT'S JUST, THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE DECEMBER.
AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE EVEN INTO JANUARY BEFORE THAT IT'S SOLIDIFIED.
CAN WE, SO CAN WE JUST BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING? SURE.
AND DISCUSS LOCATION AND DATES.
[IX. Executive Session]
SESSION.I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH ALL ONES WE HAVE.
I THINK WE GOT THROUGH MOST OF THEM.
I'LL READ IT IN DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENTS AND ADVANCE.
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ALL RIGHT.UH, PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM TIME TO TIME DEEMED NECESSARY.
DURING THIS MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5 50, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR ALL OF THE FOLLOWING TOPICS, UH, ONE PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION, OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.071 INTERNAL COMPLAINT AGAINST THE CITY MANAGER AND THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER.
UH, TWO POSSIBLE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL ESTATE PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.072 TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE.
DOWNTOWN PROPERTY ACQUISITION, THREE PERSONNEL MATTER, UH, MATTERS PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.074.
THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY MANAGER, FOUR CONVENING TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0.08, SEVEN TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE REGARDING THE OFFER OF ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO ONE OR MORE BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE LOCATE STAY OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE CITY PROJECT.
[41. Take action on items discussed in Executive Session.]
ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.THERE IS NO ACTION TAKEN DURING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
NOW I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER TO SEND A LETTER TO THE PARTIES, UH, TO THE, UH, C C, C ILA GIVING NOTICE OF KYLE'S, UH, TRANSITION OF DISPATCH SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND REQUEST TO NEGOTIATE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ILA.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLORES.
ALL THE OPPOS MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN CAUSE NUMBER, UH, 12, 12 82, JESSE ESP ESPINOZA VERSUS THE CITY OF CALL TEXAS IN THE 22ND JU JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS, AND CASE NUMBER 4 0 7 18 3 0 9 8, JESSE HA JESUS ESPANOZA VERSUS KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OFFICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS.
SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND AND BY CUSTOMER TOBI IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE A SEPARATION RELEASE AND WAIVER AGREEMENT WITH SCOTT SELLERS.
SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FLORES.
SCALE IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A FOURTH MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT JERRY HENDRICKS AS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER.
SECOND, SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER OR BY MAYOR PRO TIM RIZZO.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
UM, ALRIGHT SO Y'ALL YOU ARE TO SIGN.
WHAT YOU GONNA DO? WHAT'S IT GONNA