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EVENING EVERYONE.[I. Call Meeting to Order]
TIME IS 7:02 PM IT'S TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18TH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER WITH ALL, PLEASE RISE TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE ALL.
WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL RULE MITCHELL? HERE.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING, OCTOBER 3RD AND THE REGULAR MEETING, UH, SAME DAY, OCTOBER 3RD, 2022.
SECOND, MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIS, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO RIZZO, UH, THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
UP CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO SO.
WE ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM, UH, AND THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
WE ALSO, UM, UH, ASK THAT, UM, UH, I MESSED THAT UP.
I HAVEN'T MESSED THAT UP IN A LONG TIME.
SO, UH, FIRST UP, SUSAN RAINA.
MY NAME IS SUSAN RENA, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF KYLE.
I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD THAT, UM, OWNS THE CATHERINE AND PORTER HOUSE HERE IN KYLE AT 5 0 8 WEST CENTER STREET.
AND I WANTED TO LET EVERYONE IN KYLE KNOW ABOUT AN EVENT WE HAVE COMING UP NEXT WEEK.
WE HAVE A WELL KNOWN, UH, ARTIST, A POET WHO WILL BE DOING A READING AND BOOK SIGNING ON THE EVENING OF OC FRIDAY, OCTOBER 28TH AT 7:30 PM THERE AT THE CATHERINE ANN PORTER HOUSE AT 5 0 8 WEST CENTER STREET.
HER NAME IS AMY NSU KUMA TA, AND I ASK HER FORGIVENESS FOR HER, HOW I PRONOUNCE HER NAME, BUT SHE'S THE AUTHOR OF THE NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLING ILLUSTRATED COLLECTION OF NATURE ESSAYS, WORLD OF WONDERS IN PRAISE OF FIREFLIES WHALE SHARKS AND OTHER ASTONISHMENTS.
SHE HAS FOUR PREVIOUS POETRY COLLECTIONS AND, UH, A CHATBOOK AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT SHE'S DONE.
BUT, UM, HER WRITING HAS APPEARED IN THE BEST AMERICAN POETRY, THE NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE, ESPN PLOW SHARES, AMERICAN POETRY REVIEW AND TENHOUSE.
IN 2021, SHE BECAME THE FIRST EVER POETRY EDITOR FOR SIERRA MAGAZINE, THE STORYTELLING ARM OF THE SIERRA CLUB.
SHE IS A PROFESSOR OF ENGLISH AND CREATIVE WRITING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI'S, MASTER OF FINE ARTS PROGRAM, AND WE ARE VERY HONORED TO HAVE HER COME TO KYLE.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO INVITE EVERYONE AGAIN TO COME OUT ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 28TH AT 7:30 PM AT 5 0 8 WEST, UH, CENTER STREET HERE IN KYLE.
THAT'S ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.
[IV. Agenda Order]
UP IS AGENDA ORDER.IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO MOVE ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? COUNCILWOMAN FLUSH KILL.
UM, SINCE MY ITEM WAS POSTPONED FROM LAST WEEK, I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 34.
YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT RIGHT NOW? YES, PLEASE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCLAMATIONS FIRST AND PRESENTATIONS? YES.
[4. Presentation and recognition of the Parks and Recreation Board and Parks and Recreation Department for their work to establish Kyle as a Gold Certified City by Scenic Texas. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PRESENTATION AND RECOGNITION OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR WORK TO ESTABLISH KYLE'S A GOLD CERTIFIED CITY BY, UH, SCENIC TEXAS.
THE, THE, THE CITY OF KYLE WAS, UH, VERY HONORED TO BE, UH, PRESENTED WITH A GOLD CERTIFICATION AT THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE CONFERENCE.
THERE WERE, UH, I BELIEVE FOUR OF US ON COUNCIL WHO WERE THERE.
UH, IT WAS A PRETTY NEAT MOMENT.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, RECEIVED BEFORE.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S A TESTAMENT TO, UH, THE WORK OF THE COUNCIL, THE WORK OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE WORK OF OUR PARKS, UM, BOARD.
UH, AND WHILE WE WERE THERE, I WANTED TO GIVE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST REALLY, UH, SPEAK TO THE WORK OF OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND OUR PARKS BOARD BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SCENIC, UH, SCENIC CITY CERTIFICATION WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE WAS ON ANY OF OUR RADAR, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD PURSUED, UH, AND, UH, THE DEPARTMENT, UH, PUT IN THAT APPLICATION AND, AND
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RECEIVE.AND SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO TAKE US, UH, IF YOU'RE IN THE, ON THE PARKS BOARD OR IF YOU'RE HERE FROM WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND STANDING, I'D LIKE TO GIVE 'EM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
UH, UH, I SEE AMANDA, I SEE LORI LEE.
I SEE, UH, MARIANA IN THE BACK.
THANK Y'ALL, UH, FOR YOUR WORK.
UH, WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A PICTURE AND I WANTED TO, UH, UH, TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAD ANYTHING THAT THEY WANTED TO ADD.
UM, GOING TO THE TML CONFERENCE AND, AND THEN HAVING, UH, BEING INVITED OUT THERE, IT WAS, UH, VERY, UH, HUMBLING TO SEE THE GREAT WORK THAT Y'ALL ALL DID.
AND IT WAS VERY NEAT TO SEE THE CITY OF KYLE IN A LOT OF THEIR PARKS AND A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT WAS IN THEIR PRESENTATION, ALONG WITH OTHER CITIES FROM B VERDE AND CORPUS CHRISTI AND OTHER HU IN BIG CITIES LIKE HOUSTON.
AND TO SEE THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, UP THERE.
AND, AND A LOT OF IT IS, UH, ALL TO YOU FOR, FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
SO, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
THANK YOU TO THE PARKS TEAM FOR, UM, THEIR HARD WORK WORKING OUT THERE, MAKING SURE THAT OUR PARKS ARE BEAUTIFUL, AND ALSO TO THE PARKS BOARD THEMSELVES FOR COMING UP WITH VERY CREATIVE IDEAS TO MAKE OUR CITY VERY BEAUTIFUL.
SO, MS. STARK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND EVERYBODY ELSE, I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
SO THIS TIME WE CAN BRING EVERYBODY FORWARD TO TAKE A PICTURE.
YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND JOIN US, RIGHT? I MIGHT NEED Y'ALL TO SQUISH IN JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO EACH OTHER SO I CAN GET EVERYONE IN.
[5.
Presentation and brief overview of Pillows for Peace - Unforgettable Families and Friends of Kyle, in bringing continuous awareness during Domestic Violence Awareness Month. ~ Michael Tobias, Council Member
]RIGHT.NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PRESENTATION BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PILLOWS FOR PEACE, UNFORGETTABLE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF KYLE, AND BRINGING CONTINUOUS AWARENESS DURING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SPONSOR THIS, UH, AGAIN IN CONTINUANCE TO RECOGNIZE THE AWARENESS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, AWARENESS MONTH.
UH, THIS, UH, PROJECT CARE PILLS FOR PEACE, ACTUALLY IS GOING ON 15 YEARS.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, INVITE MS. CYNTHIA BENTLEY AND MISS VANESSA WESTBROOK TO THE FRONT TO HELP WITH, UH, THE PRESENTATION.
UH, THESE TWO LADIES HERE ARE VERY STRONG ADVOCATES, AS YOU KNOW, IN OUR COMMUNITY AND DO GREAT WORK FOR US.
AND SO I, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT, UH, THEM TO YOU SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO GIVE US A OVERVIEW OF THE PILLOWS OF PIECE.
UM, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE KYLE BUTTA KIWANIS CLUB.
I'M THE TREASURER, ALONG WITH MS. CYNTHIA BENTLEY, WHO WILL INTRODUCE HERSELF IN JUST A SECOND.
FOR UNFORGETTABLE FAMILY AND FRIENDS, A PILLOW OF PEACE IS A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THE CITY NOW FOR A WHILE, AND CYNTHIA HAS LED EFFORTS IN REGARDS TO ASSISTING THE, UM, HAYES IN CALDWELL COUNTY WOMEN'S SHELTER IN PROVIDING THIS PROGRAM TO VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE THAT THIS MONTH WE LOOK AT, UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN REGARDS TO PROVIDING EDUCATION, IN REGARDS TO PROVIDING VARIOUS TYPES OF INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC, AND HOPEFULLY GETTING INFORMATION TO THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED.
UH, WE BRING, UM, AWARENESS TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
WE HELP THOSE IN NEED, AND WE EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT THIS SLIDE, UH, NEXT SLIDE.
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THAT? WHO'S CONTROLLING THAT? I CAN.UM, WE WANNA SAY THAT, UH, THIS IS IN MEMORY OF SAMANTHA AND MATLIN DEAN, WHO WERE, UH, MEMBERS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED TO THEM, WHICH OF COURSE WAS A PART OF THIS IDEA OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
NOW, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF PILLOW OF PEACE, WE'RE TRYING TO EMPOWER, UH, SURVIVORS AND, AND REASSURE THEM THAT THEY DESERVE TO BE SAFE AND FREE FROM VIOLENCE AND WHATEVER WAY WE CAN PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THEM, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
AND WE DO THAT BY SUPPORTING THE HAYES CARDWELL WOMEN'S CENTER.
THE WOMEN'S CENTER HAS A MISSION WITH SEVERAL BROAD PERSPECTIVES.
ONE OF THOSE IS TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE VIOLENCE AND ABUSE ARE NOT TOLERATED IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE OTHERS, BUT EDUCATION, VIOLENCE, PREVENTION SERVICES, AND CRISIS INTERVENTION, AMONG OTHER THINGS, TO THE VICTIMS HERE IN OUR COUNTY WHO RELY ON US TO HELP THEM THROUGH THEIR NEEDS.
IN 2021, THE CENTER SERVED 2055 VICTIMS JUST, JUST DURING 2000 OR 21.
THEY ALSO PROVIDED 7,753 NIGHTS AT A SHELTER, WHICH MEANS THAT FOLKS BE THAT WHOEVER THEY WERE, IN MANY INSTANCES, THEIR CHILDREN WERE TAKEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND GIVEN CARE AND SUPPORT DURING A VERY TRAGIC TIME.
NOW, ONE COULD PROBABLY NOT EVEN IMAGINE THIS IDEA OF YOU LEAVING YOUR HOME WITH JUST WHAT YOU HAVE ON.
AND IN SOME INSTANCES IT COULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE PAJAMAS ON NIGHTGOWN AND GOING TO A FACILITY SO THAT IT COULD HELP YOU TO BE SAFE.
THE IDEA BEHIND PILLOW OF PEACE IS THAT YOU GET TO THIS FACILITY AND YOU'RE GIVEN A PILLOW, BE YOU AN ADULT, OR BE A CHILD THAT YOU CAN HOLD ONTO, LAY YOUR HEAD DOWN, AND JUST FOR A MOMENT, CLOSE YOUR EYES IN ORDER TO GET JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF SLEEP.
SO WE CAN'T EVEN, MOST OF US CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE THAT HAPPENING.
BUT THINK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE JUST THIS VERY SMALL TOKEN TO THOSE VICTIMS WHO NEED TO BE PUT IN SPECIAL CARE BECAUSE OF SOMETHING TRAGIC GOING ON IN THEIR LIVES.
THE COMMUNITY SET, THE WOMEN'S CENTER ALSO CONDUCTED 533 CHILD INTERVIEWS IN REGARDS TO THIS CONNECTION TO CHILD ABUSE OR SOME TYPE OF VIOLENCE THAT'S GONE ON IN THE HOME.
THEY ALSO RECEIVED 3,613 HELPLINE CALLS JUST IN OUR COUNTY AND CALDWELL COUNTY DURING THE YEAR OF 2021.
SO WE KNOW THAT THE NEED IS THERE.
THE CONNECTION BETWEEN PILLOW OF PEACE AND THE WOMEN'S, UH, CENTER IS THAT THE PILLOW IS PROVIDED TO THE VICTIM TO HELP THEM TO HAVE SOME SIGN OF SECURITY DURING THIS TRAGIC TIME, THE WOMEN'S SHELTER RECEIVES VICTIMS FROM, UH, VARIOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE SENT THESE, UH, FOLKS OVER THERE IN ORDER THAT THEY MAY HAVE SOME DEGREE OF SAFETY WHILE WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S GOING ON, UH, WITHIN THE HOUSEHOLD CAN BE RESOLVED.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PILLAR OF PEACE DONATION EVENT ON NOVEMBER THE FIFTH.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, IT'S GONNA BE AT KOHL'S HERE IN KYLE, TEXAS.
PRETTY MUCH THROUGHOUT THE DAY, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPANIES, UH, BUSINESSES AS WELL AS AGENCIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.
AND WE HOPE THAT WE CAN, UH, CALL ON THE COMMUNITY TO COME BY COLES ON NOVEMBER THE FIFTH, AND DROP OFF A NICE BRAND NEW PILLOW OR TWO SO THAT WE CAN ADD TO THE COLLECTION, WHICH WILL BE SENT OVER TO THE WOMEN'S, UH, CENTER.
AND THEN THESE WILL BE GIVEN OUT AS NEEDED TO THOSE THAT COME THERE.
I'M GOING TO DEFER OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE, CYNTHIA, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE IN INFORMATION ABOUT PILLOWS OF PEACE.
GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING US COME TO ADDRESS YOU TONIGHT.
I MOVED HERE PERMANENTLY IN DECEMBER OF 2012.
PRIOR TO THAT, I DID BUY A HOUSE, BUT THIS WAS MY EVACUATION HOUSE.
I MOVED FROM NEW ORLEANS, SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT PART.
I MOVED HERE IN DECEMBER OF 2012.
BY DECEMBER, BY NO, OCTOBER OF 2013 IS WHEN PILL OF PEACE WAS INTRODUCED.
IN THIS AREA, WE STARTED WITH ONLY 32 PILLOWS DONATING TO HA HAYES CALWELL WOMEN'S CENTER.
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WE ARE GIVING OUT OVER 5,000 PILLOWS IN THE TEXAS AREA.UH, IN 22 YEARS BEFORE ONE, THE YEAR BEFORE COVID.
THE 2019, UH, HAYES HIGH SCHOOL GOT RIM, A PILLOW OF PIECE, AND THOSE YOUNGSTERS TOOK IT AND THEY RAN WITH IT.
THEY WENT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY PUT FLYERS ON ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND THEY COLLECTED OVER 300 PILLOWS.
AND GOD IS REALLY AWESOME BECAUSE RIGHT AFTER THAT, UH, HARVEY, HARVEY HIT, SO WE WERE ABLE TO SEND PILLARS TO PORTS, CORPUS CHRISTI, GALVESTON, AND ALSO TO OTHER BARRIERS, HOMELESS CENTERS IN OUR AREA.
THE HISTORY OF PILLAR OF PEACE.
MARY SHOW TIGHT, HE'S A RE RE WAS A RESIDENT OF OF BEAUMONT, TEXAS.
SHE NOW LIVED IN NEW ORLEANS, STARTED THIS PROGRAM 15 YEARS AGO.
ONE OF HER JOBS WAS TO GO TO THE VARIOUS CENTERS IN NEW ORLEANS.
AND SHE WAS SO EXHAUSTED ONE DAY ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT SHE DID SEE, AND THE STORAGE THAT SHE HELD, THAT THE STORIES THAT SHE HEARD.
SHE SAT IN HER CAR AND SHE CRIED.
AND ALL SHE COULD DO IS WAIT UNTIL SHE GOT HOME TO GET HER PILLOW, BECAUSE SHE REMEMBERED HOW MUCH COMFORT HER PILLOW GAVE HER WHEN SHE LAID HER HEAD ON, UM, AT NIGHT.
AND THIS WAS THE INCEPTION OF PILLOW OF PEACE.
SINCE THEN, WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED OTHER THINGS SUCH AS, UM, CANCER AWARENESS, BECAUSE MARY'S SISTER DIED LAST YEAR OF, UM, CANCER.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU REALLY DON'T REALIZE, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE? DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS NOT ALSO ALWAYS, UH, SOMETHING PHYSICAL, SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SEE.
AND WHEN I WAS DOING MY RESEARCH ON SOME OF THE SIGNS OF IT, I KEPT REALIZING, THAT'S ME.
I PUT UP WITH THAT FOR 21 YEARS BEFORE I GOT THE STRENGTH TO LEAVE.
BUT IN MY HOUSEHOLD, WE ALWAYS HAD THIS SAYING, WHAT GOES ON IN MY HOUSE STAYS IN MY HOUSE.
SO NO ONE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO WHEN I FINALLY GOT THE STRENGTH TO, TO LEAVE, I JUST LEFT.
AND IT WAS CHRISTMAS TIME, JUST BROUGHT MY CHILDREN, WENT TO MY MOM'S HOUSE, AND I LEFT.
AND THIS IS WHAT GAVE ME STRENGTH.
SO MY FORMER HUSBAND ASKED MY OLDEST DAUGHTER, WELL, WHEN IS YOUR MOM COMING HOME? AND SHE SAID, I DON'T THINK SHE IS.
AND THAT'S WHEN HE CALLED AND SAID, I CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THIS HOUSE.
I CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THESE CHILDREN.
OF COURSE HE DID, BECAUSE I DID ALL OF THAT.
EVEN THOUGH HE WAS NOT LETTING ME SLEEP AT NIGHT, I WOULD NOT HAVE ANY SLEEP, GO TO WORK WITH A BIG SMILE ON MY FACE.
AND NO ONE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU WOULD REMEMBER THIS.
THIS WAS FOR 19 63, 5 BOBBY, BOBBY GOLDBERG.
SEE THE FUNNY LITTLE CLOWN? IT SAYS, SEE THE FUNNY LITTLE CLOWN? SEE HIM LAUGH AS YOU WALK BY.
EVERYBODY THINKS HE'S HAPPY, CUZ YOU NEVER SEE A TEAR IN HIS EYE.
NO ONE KNOWS HE'S DYING ON THE INSIDE.
CUZ HE LAUGHS ON HE'S CUZ HE'S LAUGHING ON THE OUTSIDE.
SEE THE FUNNY LITTLE CLOWN, HE'S HIDDEN BEHIND A SMILE.
THEY ALL THINK HE'S LAUGHING, BUT I KNOW HE'S REALLY CRYING ALL THE WHILE, HOW HIS HEART IS ACHING, HOW HIS HEART IS BREAKING ON THE INSIDE.
BUT HE KEEPS LAUGHING ON THE OUTSIDE.
AND MANY TIMES WHEN I'M SITTING IN MY CAR BEFORE I GO OFF THE WORK, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY HEAD, BECAUSE THIS WAS ME, AS I SAID, WITH WHAT ON IN MY HOUSE? STAYED IN MY HOUSE, NO ONE KNEW.
NO, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PHYSICAL WOUNDS, WOUNDS.
BUT MAN, DO I HAVE SOME MENTAL WOUNDS.
I HAVE BEEN ABUSED ALL KIND OF WAY MENTALLY.
ONCE I GOT OUT ON MY CAR, AFTER LISTENING TO THIS SONG OR SING, SINGING THIS SONG TO MYSELF, I WOULD WALK INTO WORK, CROSS THE DO WITH A BIG SMILE ON MY FACE, WENT ALONG MY NATURAL DAY, DID MY WORK, AND DID IT EXCEPTIONAL.
I WAS THE, UH, SUPERVISOR FOR LOUISIANA WORKFORCE COMMISSION.
I RAN ONE OF THE, UH, LARGEST UNEMPLOYMENT AND EMPLOYMENT SERVICES IN THE AREA.
BUT AFTER I LEFT, IT WAS THE SAME THING.
I WOULD THINK OF THE SONG OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND WHEN I TURNED ON MY STREET, CAUSE I LIVED AT THE TOP OF A COSAC, WHEN I TURN AND I SAW THAT HOUSE, MY BODY WOULD JUST SHAKE.
JUST SHAKE BECAUSE THAT FUNNY LITTLE CLOWN WAS ALSO CRYING AGAIN.
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YOU.WE HAVE SOME, UH, INFORMATION SITTING ON THE TABLE FOR EACH OF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT ON YOUR WAY OUT.
AND IT JUST GIVES YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT PILLOWS OF PEACE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AS WELL AS INFORMATION ABOUT THE HAZE.
UM, CALDWELL COUNTY WOMEN'S CENTER.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME INFORMATION, HOTLINE NUMBERS AS WELL AS A WEBSITE FOR THOSE OF NEED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UM, SUPPORTING US ON THIS AND WE'RE HELPING, HOPING, HOPING THAT WE CAN HELP OUT OUR COMMUNITY.
MS. BENTLEY, UH, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE, UH, STATIONS OUT THE, LIKE LAST YEAR, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OR ARE WE DOING IT DIFFERENT THIS TIME? WE ARE GOING TO BE AT COLES WITH THE FIRE, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN INCLUDE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEXT YEAR.
YEAH, I KNOW LAST TIME THEY HAD A LITTLE COMPETITION GOING ON.
I WAS WONDERING, WERE WE DOING THAT AGAIN? SO, NO, WE ONLY GONNA HAVE THE FIRE DEPART.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH US AT KOHL'S.
AND KOHL'S WAS SUPPOSED TO SHOW UP TONIGHT.
AND THAT'S MY BUDDIES BACK THERE,
BUT WE WILL BE OUT ON NOVEMBER THE, UH, THE FIFTH AT KOHL'S FROM ABOUT 10 TO TWO.
BUT IF YOU COME AFTER THAT TIME, THEY WILL HAVE A BOX THERE WHERE YOU CAN LEAVE THE PILLOWS.
RACHEL, COULD WE ADVERTISE THIS ON OUR, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, PLEASE? YES, YOU BET.
THANK YOU MS. BENLEY, FOR YOUR STORY.
UM, AGAIN, IT WAS AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO SPONSOR THIS SO WE COULD HEAR THE STORIES.
AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE GOT MY PURPLE THANK YOU RIGHT HERE AS WELL.
UH, WHEN, WHEN MY SON WAS IN, IN, IN HIGH SCHOOL PLAYING FOOTBALL, HE WAS ALSO PART OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? NO DATING TO DATING VIOLENCE, UH, AWARENESS FOR, FOR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS, UH, SHOWING, UM, SIGNS OF SO SORORITY TO, TO END DATING VIOLENCE, ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVELS.
AND THEY WOULD PUT 'EM ON THEIR HELMETS AND STUFF.
AND SO MY SON WAS REALLY, UH, ADVOCATE AND, AND PART OF THAT WITH OUR DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU'RE HERE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
AND ALSO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, KYLE PD FOR BEING, UH, SPONSORS FOR THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
IT'S IN EVERY CITY, IN EVERY TOWN.
I MEAN, LAW ENFORCEMENT, I SEE IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UH, AND SO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BRING THE AWARENESS.
AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE, UH, THERE IS HELP.
AND, UH, THERE ARE RESOURCES THAT CAN HELP YOU OUT IN THESE SITUATIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL BROUGHT UP, SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, SOMETHING I, I PERSONALLY GOT TO WITNESS.
UH, I GOT A PHONE CALL ONE NIGHT THAT, UM, FROM THE HAYES COUNTY WOMEN'S SHELTER THAT THEY WERE GONNA MOVE OUT OF FAMILY, AND THEY NEEDED HELP, THEY NEEDED VOLUNTEERS, THEY NEEDED A TRUCK AND TRAILER.
SO I VOLUNTEERED MY TRUCK AND TRAILER THAT EVENING.
BUT WITNESSING THE TWO LITTLE GIRLS THAT WERE THERE AND SEEING WHAT THEY WERE GOING THROUGH, THEY WERE LEAVING THEIR HOMES, THEY WERE LEAVING THEIR TOYS, THEY WERE LEAVING THEIR SWING SET BEHIND.
IT JUST REALLY TOUCHES YOU WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND YOU ARE EXPERIENCE, WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CHANGES YOUR LIFE FOREVER.
TO SEE THESE KIDS LIVING EVERYTHING BEHIND THE SAFETY OF THEIR HOME AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THIS, THIS MOTHER HAVING TO MAKE THIS DRASTIC CHANGE, IT DEFINITELY CHANGES YOU.
SO ANYTIME YOU GET A CHANCE TO DONATE TO THE HAYES COUNT CALDWAY WOMEN'S CENTER, PLEASE DONATE.
PLEASE COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS EVENT.
COMING UP A PILLOW MEANS A LOT.
LAST YEAR IN 2021, DURING THE FREEZE, COUNCIL QUE AND I, UM, WENT AND LOOKED AT, UH, DURING THE FREEZE.
WE HAD SOME DISPLACED, UH, SENIORS FROM BUTTA, AND THEY WERE IN ONE OF OUR CHURCHES, AND THEY WERE SITTING THERE IN HARD MIDDLE CHAIRS, AND WE STOOD UP.
WE PROMISED THEM THAT THEY WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T LEAVE UNTIL THEY HAD A WARM PILLOW AND A WARM BED TO SLEEP IN.
SO, PILLOW MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
SO PLEASE COME OUT AND DONATE TO THIS.
[6. Chamber of Commerce Week proclamation. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
RIGHT, NEXT UP, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WEEK.UH, PROCLAMATION, UH, I'M GONNA READ THE PROCLAMATION.
I WAS GONNA INVITE, UH, CEO, MISS YU SNYDER TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS IF YOU'D LIKE.
UH, WHEREAS MORE THAN 600 LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE IN TEXAS DISTINGUISH THEMSELVES AS THE VOICE OF BUSINESS IN OUR STATE.
AND WHEREAS THE WORK ACCOMPLISHED BY THE, UH, THOSE LOCAL CHAMBERS HAS BENEFITED OUR STATE THROUGH THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TOURISM, PROMOTION, AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS THE LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE ON TEASINGLY PROMOTE THEIR COMMUNITY FOR QUALITY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHEREAS THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY REPRESENTED THROUGH LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE HAS BEEN A DRIVING FORCE IN FOSTERING ENHANCED EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, THE CREATION OF JOBS, AND A POSITIVE VISION OF THE FUTURE.
AND WHEREAS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE COMMUNITY IN TEXAS HAS SOUGHT TO
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ACHIEVE SUCCESSFUL RESULTS FOR OUR STATE IN A COOPERATIVE SPIRIT WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.AND WHEREAS THE KYLE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS PROUDLY REPRESENTED THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN KYLE, IN HAYES COUNTY FOR 23 YEARS.
AND WHEREAS THE KYLE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS A STRONG PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF KYLE, THEIR MISSION TO PROMOTE, ADVOCATE, CONNECT, AND EDUCATE BUSINESSES FOSTERS OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.
UH, NOW, THEREFORE, I, TRAVIS MITCHELL, PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 17TH, 2022 THROUGH OCTOBER 21ST, 2022 IS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WEEK.
UM, UH, IT IS GREAT TO HAVE A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT WE, UH, THAT WE DO WORK SO CLOSELY WITH.
UM, IT IS, UH, IT DOESN'T GO LOST.
I REMEMBER 2013, BRINGING MY BUSINESS TO THE CITY OF KYLE, AND, UH, SITTING DOWN, UH, WITH MISS JULIE AND GETTING TO CONNECT WITH OTHER CHAMBER MEMBERS HELPED ME TO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY GOING THROUGH THE SAME STRUGGLES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, UH, THEY, THEY CALL IT NETWORKING.
I, I, I THOUGHT OF IT AS COMMUNITY AT THAT TIME.
AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ENGAGE WITH THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WAS JUST THE ONLY WAY THAT I KNEW TO CONNECT WITH SO MANY, UH, OTHER BUSINESSES PERSONALLY.
AND SO, UH, OUR CHAMBER HAS BEEN, UH, A STEADY, UH, UM, UH, ADVOCATE FOR BUSINESSES AND, AND THIS COMMUNITY.
AND, AND JULIE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SAY ANYTHING, I'LL BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.
I'LL NEVER, I'LL TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
THANK YOUR COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
I'M THE VERY PROUD CEO OF THE KYLE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND FIRST, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO RECOGNIZE TEXAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WEEK.
AND SECONDLY, I'M GONNA TURN AROUND AND ASK IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE KYLE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WILL YOU PLEASE STAND? YES, THIS IS ABOUT THEM.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
UH, I GAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PLEA THIS AFTERNOON TO OUR MEMBERS TO COME OUT AND, UH, BE RECOGNIZED.
IT'S AMAZING THAT 30 YEARS AGO, SEPTEMBER OF 1992, I STARTED MY VERY FIRST JOB WITH A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I WAS IN SIXTH GRADE, OF COURSE,
I ACTUALLY STARTED HERE, UH, NINE YEARS AGO.
ONE THING ABOUT THE KYLE AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT I AM SO PROUD OF IS THE SENSE OF BELONGING THAT WE OFFER.
IT'S THE SUPPORT THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE BUSINESS OWNERS, OPERATORS, EMPLOYEES, GIVE EACH OTHER ON A DAILY BASIS.
I WITNESS IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST 27, I SPENT CELEBRATING, WATCHING BUSINESSES OPEN, THEY GROW, THEY ADD EMPLOYEES, AND WE CELEBRATE THEIR SUCCESSES.
AND TWO YEARS INTO IT, IT WAS VERY CHALLENGING TO SEE THE STRUGGLES OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
HOWEVER, THE KYLE COMMUNITY, THE HAYES COUNTY REGION, CONTINUED TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
AND I WAS VERY, VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THAT AND TO BE HELPING SOME OF THOSE SMALLER BUSINESSES.
UH, ONE THING I DID WANT TO MAKE MENTION, LET ME THINK THIS THROUGH HERE.
WHEN YOU'RE BORED, THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS IN OUR LIVES.
THE CLOTHES WE WEAR, THE FOOD WE EAT, THE ROADS WE DRIVE, THE CARS WE DRIVE, THE WAGES THAT ALLOW US TO BUY OUR HOMES OR RENT OUR HOMES.
WE COULD NOT HAVE ANY OF THAT IF IT WERE NOT FOR BUSINESS.
AND I COMMEND THE KYLE LEADERSHIP, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I COMMEND ALL OF OUR ENTREPRENEURS, OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, OUR OPERATORS, AND THE STRUGGLES, THE SACRIFICES, AND THE DEDICATION THAT THEY HAVE PUT FORTH TO CREATE THAT AND PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO US, THE CITIZENS.
SO THANK YOU FOR CELEBRATING THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WEEK, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, LET'S CELEBRATE THE BUSINESS.
CAN WE, OF OUR CHAMBER MEMBERS UP FRONT FOR A PHOTO? OF COURSE.
WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL STAY BACK.
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YOU'RE A PART OF THE AREA Y'ALL TO ALL KIND OF SQUEEZES PHOTO WORK.BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE, THE CITY OF CO, YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE CHAMBER.
IRENE, AS A CLASS CHAIR COME UP.
CAN WE GET Y'ALL TO SCOOCH YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE? CAN WE SEE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS? YOU'RE GOOD, RIGHT? IF YOU CAN SEE US, WE CAN SEE YOU.
DON'T GO AWAY, ARIEL, YOU HAVE TO BE COUNT THREE.
[7.
Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager
- Bond Open House #2 - Oct. 20
- Founders' Parade Recap
- Center Street Trick or Treat - Oct 22
- October Halloween Contests - All October
- Veterans Day Parade - Nov 12
- Scenic City Certification
- The Genealogy Bash - Oct 21
- Trick or Treat! - Oct 31
- Team Kyle Update
FIRST UP IS RACHEL SONIA AIR TO TALK ABOUT OUR NEXT ROAD BOND, OPEN HOUSE.
HELLO, COUNSEL, UH, LEADERSHIP RACHEL SONIA FOR THE RECORD.
AND, UH, I'M HERE TO TELL Y'ALL ABOUT OUR OPEN HOUSE, WHICH WILL BE THIS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 20TH.
IT'LL BE AT THE KYLE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING OVER ON THE EAST SIDE, RIGHT OVER THERE, UH, FROM SIX TO EIGHT 30, IT WILL BE A COME AND GO STYLE EVENT.
SO YOU CAN JUST STOP IN ANYTIME BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT 30, WE WILL HAVE CITY STAFF, UH, BOND ENGINEERS, OUR FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS, ALL THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR RESIDENTS.
AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE SPANISH INTERPRETATION AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE THAT NEEDS IT.
BUT, UH, IF YOU NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION, GO TO KYLE BONDS.COM AND, UH, YEAH, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SEE Y'ALL THERE.
MARIA ESPINOZA, OUR PARKS TRICKS.
NEXT MAYOR, COUNCIL MARIA ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
FIRST OFF, WE'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TO CELEBRATE THE CITY OF KYLE'S BIRTHDAY.
UH, THE CITY OF KYLE WAS FOUNDED IN 1880, AROUND THE 15TH OF OCTOBER.
AND SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL PARADE AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO 2023.
UH, THIS SATURDAY WE HAVE OUR TRICK OR TREE ON CENTER STREET EVENT FROM 12 O'CLOCK TO THREE O'CLOCK, IT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
THE COSTUME CONTEST JUDGING IS AT 1:00 PM AND THE PUMPKIN DECORATING CONTEST IS AT 2:30 PM PUMPKINS MUST BE DECORATED ON SITE AT THE PARK.
THAT'S THIS SATURDAY AT MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK.
UH, WE STILL HAVE TWO MORE OCTOBER HALLOWEEN CONTESTS LEFT.
THE YARD DECORATING CONTEST CLOSES THIS WEEK ON THE 22ND, AND THE COSTUME CONTEST CLOSES ON NOVEMBER 1ST.
AND ALL INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEBSITE, CITY KYLE SLASH RECREATION.
WE ARE STILL ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR THE VETERAN'S DAY PARADE, VETERAN'S DAY PARADE.
IT WILL BE ON NOVEMBER 12TH, STARTING AT 12 O'CLOCK DOWNTOWN.
UM, IT IS ALSO THE SAME DAY AS OUR NOVEMBER MARKET DAY, WHICH WILL BE TAKING PLACE FROM NINE TO TWO.
UM, AND THE PARADE WILL START AT 12 O'CLOCK.
AND OF COURSE, UH, ADDITIONAL THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR ALL THE SUPPORT, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR SCENIC CITY CERTIFICATION AND WILD PARKS IS, UH, VERY HONORED TO HAVE LED THE CHARGE.
UH, IT WAS A WHOLE CITY EFFORT, UM, SPECIFICALLY ENGINEERING, PLANNING, POLICE, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, AND TRADES DEPARTMENTS.
NEXT UPS, KARA WAITS, OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
I AM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.
IN CELEBRATION OF FAMILY HERITAGE MONTH, WE'RE DOING THE GENEALOGY BASH.
UH, IT'LL RUN FROM NINE TO SIX THIS FRIDAY, OCTOBER 21ST.
AND IF YOU GO TO THE KYLE PUBLIC LIBRARY'S WEBSITE, YOU'LL SEE THE LINK.
YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PRINT OUT, UH, HANDOUTS, OR YOU CAN COME TO THE LIBRARY AND
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GET 'EM FOR FREE.THERE'LL BE A VARIETY OF WORKSHOPS.
YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH ONES YOU WANT.
IF YOU COME TO THE LIBRARY, WE DO HAVE REFRESHMENTS AND FUN THINGS, UH, ACTIVITIES AND, UH, DOOR PRIZES THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.
UH, MONDAY IS HALLOWEEN AND WE HAVE TRICK OR TREAT THROUGH THE LIBRARY.
SO IF YOU WANT A GOOD HAUNTED READ, COME VISIT US AND GET A TREAT.
THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL JERRY HENDRICKS AND INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
NOW, YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH A BUNCH OF GREAT PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE AND, AND YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE TALENTED, BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TALENTED.
UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT OUR CITY ENGINEER AND FLOOD PLAIN ADMINISTRATOR, KAHA NAWAS BEEN MISSING FOR LAST COUPLE WEEKS.
AND WE THOUGHT THAT, UH, AND HE DID.
HE WENT HOME TO NEPAL TO VISIT HIS FAMILY.
BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WAS THAT HE'S A VERY DISTINGUISHED BOOK WRITER.
AND HE RECEIVED AN AWARD THERE FOR A BOOK CALLED, AND I'M GONNA MESS THIS UP, BUT I APOLOGIZE, ARCO BEJO, WHICH MEANS ANOTHER DAWN.
AND HE RECEIVED FOR THAT BOOK AN AWARD, PAT MOERY LITERATURE AWARD, WHICH IS AKIN TO A PULITZER PRIZE IN NEPAL.
AND THIS BOOK IS 14 SHORT STORIES, FICTIONAL STORIES ABOUT THE LIVES OF AMERICAN NEPALESE AND THEIR EXPERIENCES HERE IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND, AND HE IS SUCH A TEAM, KYLE PLAYER THAT HE EVEN MENTIONED THE CITY OF KYLE AND HIS EXPERIENCES WORKING HERE AND HOW PROUD HE IS TO BE IN CITY OF KYLE.
SO, AND THIS WAS JUST MENTIONED EARLIER THIS WEEK AS AN ASIDE, AND I WAS LIKE, THIS IS REALLY COOL.
SO I REALLY WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW, UH, HOW PROUD WE ARE OF KHA AND NOT ONLY THE WORK THAT HE DOES HERE, BUT THE WORK THAT HE DOES FOR HIS COUNTRY AND HIS TALENT.
AND KHA IS AVAILABLE ONLINE VIRTUALLY AND KHA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS, AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP TO COUNSEL FOR THEM TO MAKE COMMENTS.
AND I KNOW MY, MY TEAM ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, LEON, IS ALWAYS SUPPORTIVE AND I ALWAYS INFORM YOU WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO DO, WHAT I'M DOING BESIDES WORK.
SO IT IS, IT IS, UH, THIS IS MY FIRST BOOK AND IT IS QUITE AN ACHIEVEMENT OVER THERE FOR FIRST BOOK.
I'M STILL CAN'T BELIEVE THAT MY BOOK WENT THIS FAR.
I'M REALLY HAPPY AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR SUPPORT AND I'M HAPPY TO BE PART OF TEAM KYLE.
ANYWAY, CAN I TELL HIM CONGRATULATIONS.
KHA, ARE YOU THERE? HE'S GONE.
UM, YOU ARE SUCH AN ASSET EVERY WAY I WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
UM, THIS DOESN'T SURPRISE ME NOW, THE BOOK IN GENERAL, I FIGURED IT'D BE ABOUT LIKE ENGINEERING OR SOMETHING, BUT I'M REALLY IMPRESSED THAT YOU CAN GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT.
AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
THIS IS MORE THAN WELL EARNED AND YOU ARE MUCH LOVED BY THE CITY.
UM, THE CITY IS FULL OF SURPRISES FOR SURE.
SO, UM, I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU WILL MAKE BOOKS ABOUT FLOOD PLAIN SO WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON,
UM, SO IT IS, IT IS, IT'S INCREDIBLE.
IF YOU HAVE ONE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A COPY.
SO IF YOU CAN BRING ONE HOME, THAT WILL BE FANTASTIC.
OH, I, IT'S NOT IN ENGLISH, SO I TELL IT DOESN'T MATTER.
LANGUAGE
UM, WHAT A GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.
YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY, I'M SURE, UH, TO HAVE KYLE ALSO MENTIONED IN YOUR BOOK.
NOW IN A WORLDWIDE INTERNATIONAL STATE.
NO, DURING THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S AMAZING FOR THAT DURING MY SPEECH, YEAH.
DURING MY ACCEPTANCE SPEEDS I MENTIONED I WORK FOR CITY OF KYLE AND I'M PLOT GREEN ADMINISTRATOR AND ENGINEER THERE.
AND I'M PROUD TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY I WORK FOR.
WELL THAT, THAT, THAT'S AMAZING.
AND, AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT CUZ THAT THAT REALLY MEANS A LOT THAT YOU'RE, UH, ADDRESSING THE DESIRE AND THE UM, THE HONOR TO WORK FOR, FOR A CITY LIKE OURS AND THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITIZENS.
AND I'M SURE THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF YOU AND VERY
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HAPPY FOR YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENT.SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR THAT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS A CHANCE THAT WE REALLY HEAVILY ADVERTISE THE BOND OPEN HOUSE FOR THE 20TH OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, AND HEAVILY, I MEAN LIKE REPOSTING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE CUZ I BELIEVE THIS IS THE LAST ONE BEFORE VOTING, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO COME AT LEAST TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT POSSIBILITY.
SO IF HE CAN BE REPOSTED EVERY SIX HOURS, SO I MAKE SURE THE KYLE ENTIRELY SEE LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED.
SO THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
AND SECOND, I WANTED TO THANK, UH, MARIANA AND ALL THE PARKS TEAM FOR THE AMAZING JOB THEY DID WITH THE FOUNDERS PARADE.
JUST AS A ASIDE, RACHEL SONIA, COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, UH, BUT UH, WE HAVE TURNED EVERY STONE AS FAR AS WE HAVE IT ON PRINT IN ADS FOR HARE PRESS AND COMMUNITY IMPACT ON EVERY B BILLBOARD IN TOWN THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO.
AND I WILL HAVE WROTE SIGNS UP HOPEFULLY THIS WEEK.
SO, BUT UM, YEAH, DEFINITELY LOTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISEMENT AS WELL.
I DID SEE IT ON THE BILLBOARD.
WILL, UH, WE BE ADVERTISING IT.
UM, ARE WE GONNA BE RECORDING THE LAST ONE AS WELL SO THAT WAY THE RESIDENTS CAN, UH, ACCESS IT AT THEIR CONVENIENCE? UH, SO WE WON'T BE RECORDING THE SECOND ONE CUZ IT'S NOT HYBRID IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY ROOM ISN'T REALLY SET UP FOR IT, BUT IT WILL BE COME AND GO AND WE STILL HAVE THAT FIRST ONE AVAILABLE WITH, UH, THE TIMESTAMPED QUESTIONS.
ON THE KYLE BONDS WEBSITE, KYLE BONDS.COM, AND ALSO ON OUR YOUTUBE AND ON OUR CITY PAGE AS WELL.
ARE WE DISPLAYING IT ON THE CHANNEL 10 AS WELL? UH, OH.
UH, I I'LL ASK GRANT ABOUT THAT.
I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S BEEN PLAYING IT.
YEAH, WE COULD RUN IT A COUPLE OF TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
IT'D BE GREAT JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, LEARN MORE ABOUT THE BOND SO THEY CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED GUEST HERE IN NOVEMBER THE EIGHTH.
DEFINITELY NO, I'LL, UH, WE'LL GET THAT ON CALTON PLAYING AGAIN AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, CAN WE MAKE SURE I'VE HEARD, I'VE HAD A COUPLE RESIDENTS SAY THAT THEY HAVE REACHED OUT WITH QUESTIONS TO THE KYLE BOND'S WEBSITE OR, UH, YES.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE NOT GETTING, UM, I WILL TALK TO GAP STRATEGIES TOMORROW AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE RESPONDING TO OKAY.
UH, RESIDENTS QUESTIONS AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR SURE.
[8. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
UP.C I P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATION.
I'M SORRY, YOU, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AT THIS ONE? OKAY.
COUNCIL LEE, I'M BARBARA CITY ENGINEER AND WE'RE, AND OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS VERY PROUD OF KHA ALSO.
THE PARK IS ABOUT 71% COMPLETE.
IT'S UP FROM THE LAST TIME ABOUT 3%.
UH, MOST OF THE ITEMS THEY SEE ON HERE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON ARE ON THE SAME THING FROM THE LAST TIME.
SO I WON'T REPEAT THOSE FOR YOU.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS ABOUT 62% COMPLETE.
IT'S ABOUT 1% ABOVE WHAT IT WAS THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON TAPE AND FLOAT.
THEY AIR HANDLER UNITS ARE BEING SET.
UH, THEY'RE INSTALLING THE CHILL WATER PIPING, UH, FROM THE CHILLERS TO THE BUILDING.
UH, THEY'RE PAINTING ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL ROOMS. UH, THEY'RE INSTALLING THE LIGHTWEIGHT CAST STONE CORNS AT THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
UH, FILLED BRICK MASONRY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND THEY'RE SITTING IN THE MAIN SWITCHBOARD, UH, IN THE MAIN ELECTRICAL AREA AND ALSO WORKING ON THE MAIN ENTRY SAW.
IF THEY DID STILL PLAN TO COMPLETE THIS BY FEBRUARY THE SIXTH, 2023 SOUTHSIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, UH, WE'RE STILL AT 94% COMPLETE.
UH, WE HAVE A PAY APPLICATION IN, WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO UPDATE THEIR SCHEDULE SO WE CAN WRAP THIS PROJECT UP AND, UH, MAKE THEIR NEXT PAYMENT.
BUT, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL AT 94% COMPLETE.
THEY HAVE COMPLETED, COMPLETED THE WASTEWATER LINE.
SO AS A FOREST MAY, THEY'RE BEING PRESSURE TESTED.
AND THEN ONCE THEY'RE PRESSURE TESTED, WE'RE GONNA START COATING THE MANHOLES.
AND THAT MEANS WE'RE JUST ABOUT FINISHED WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, THEY DID USE SOME ADDITIONAL STABILIZED SAND TO FILL THE TRENCHES AND WHERE WE HAD THOSE IN STABLE CONDITIONS.
AND AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, THAT TRIGGERS ANOTHER CHANGE ORDER.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE THE LAST ONE, BUT WE'LL SEE.
UM, SOUTH SIDE LIFT STATION STARTUP IS, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA TRY TO, UH, SCHEDULE FOR THAT FOR A STARTUP ON OCTOBER 27TH.
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THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION PROJECT, UH, THE DEW WATER FACILITY IS 85% COMPLETE.THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THE BULLSEYE PLANT NUMBER ONE AND TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP.
AS YOU RECALL, WE DID COMPLETE, UH, PLANT NUMBER TWO AND THAT WAS, UH, OPERATING VERY WELL.
UH, WE HAD PUSHED THE COMPLETION DATE ON THIS TO NOVEMBER, 2022.
WE'RE ALSO HAVING SUPPLY CHAIN, UH, DELAYS WITH THIS FEED PUMP DELIVERY PROJECT.
UH, P C HAS INSTALLED THE POWER POLES AND THE HIGH VOLTAGE LINES THAT'S DONE.
UH, THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE TRANSFORMER TO COME IN SO THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND SET THAT UP SO WE CAN GET POWER TO THE FACILITY.
UH, THE ROADS ARE BEING, UH, EXCAVATED SO WE CAN GET THOSE ROADS, UH, PAID.
UH, THE SECURITY FENCING IS GOING IN AROUND THE PERIMETER.
AND, UH, DUE TO TIME EXTENSION ON THE PROJECT, AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDERS FROM BLACK AND VEACH AND BIRGE SNIPE.
THEY'RE THE ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS PROJECT FOR US.
WE'RE ALSO EXPECTING A UPDATE ON THEIR SCHEDULE.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE HELD ON, UH, PAYING THEM.
UH, WE STILL HAVE SOME ROAD CLOSURES.
THEY ARE WORKING ON S SLED STREET.
UH, RECONSTRUCTION IS CONTINUING BETWEEN JAY MAUS LANE AND THIRD STREET.
UH, THERE'S SOME RIBBON CURB THAT'S BEEN PLACED ON THIRD STREET BETWEEN SCOTT STREET AND GRO STREET, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE, UH, RESIDENTS IN THE AREA DOWNTOWN.
UM, FRONTIERS RUN INTO A PROBLEM.
THEY NEED TO GET A PERMIT FROM UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD, AS YOU WELL KNOW, THAT TAKES TIME TO GET THAT DONE WITH THE UNION PACIFIC.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY CAN GET THAT WRAPPED UP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THE, THE, UH, PAVING HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY THE ACCOUNTING.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE BACKUP ON THE BACKFILL AND CLEANUP.
AND, UH, THERE'S ONE MORE LIFT THAT'S REMAINING ON THAT PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE HAVING TO REVISE THE PLANS FOR SOME DRAINAGE AND SOME, UH, UH, THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON NEAR THE, UH, LAUREN CONCRETE COMPANY AND NEAR THE CHURCH.
LEON, JUST REAL QUICK ON, ON THAT PROJECT, UM, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FAR AS, UH, PAVEMENT AND HOW IS THE PAVING GOING ON THAT SECTION? THE FINAL LIFT IS GONNA BE DONE BY THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S BY CONTRACTOR IN-HOUSE FORCES.
SO THAT'S IN THE, IN THE AGREEMENT.
THAT'S THE LAST THING THAT HAS TO GO IN.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, THREE CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS TO, TO PLACE, AND WE HAVE SOME CURBING TO PUT IN.
AND AGAIN, WE STILL NEED TO WORK ON THE DRAINAGE.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH LOWER CONCRETE TO TRY TO RESOLVE THAT ISSUE THAT WE HAVE ON AN EASEMENT WITH THEM.
SO WE DO HAVE AN ALTERNATE PLAN IF THAT DOESN'T WORK THROUGH.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.
WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AS FAR AS HOW MANY INCHES ARE WE GO, ARE THE RESPONSIBLE FOR ON PAVEMENT? TWO INCHES.
IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A TOUR OF, OF THE CURRENT STATE JUST TO, UH, PUT SOME EYES ON IT AND, AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DO THAT WITH HARPER SOMETIME, OR, OR IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE.
I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND WE'LL SET THAT UP.
YEAH, THERE'S ONE THING THAT HAPPENED ON THE PROJECT THAT, UH, DIDN'T SURPRISE ME.
WE, AS YOU WELL KNOW, WE'RE IN SOME HEAVY DUTY CLAY OUT THERE.
AND THAT SET STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, THERE'S ABOUT TWO FOOT THICK.
IT'S A LOT OF BASE AND LAST FOUR INCHES OF HOT MIX ON TOP OF THAT.
THAT'S A VERY STRONG STRUCTURE.
WHAT IT'S NOT STRONG FOR THOUGH, IS, UH, IT, THAT MATERIAL IS STRONG IN COMPRESSION.
IT'S NOT VERY STRONG IN TENSION.
AND WHAT WE HAVE HAD HAPPEN ON THAT FIRST SECTION THAT WAS DONE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT THAT WE HAD, THE SOILS AROUND, IT STARTED SHRINKING AND WE HAD SOME CRACKS IN IT.
THE COUNTY'S GONNA COME BACK AND DO SOME MILLING AND PUT SOME MORE MIX BACK IN THAT, UH, WILL IT SOLVE THE PROBLEM PERMANENTLY? I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE.
WHEN 20 FOOT OF CLAY DECIDES TO MOVE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP IT.
SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF TOWNS.
Y'ALL KNOW THAT, THAT THAT'S THE EAST SIDE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CLAY IN THAT AREA.
BUT, UH, THE FOUNDATION IS STRONG.
IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE WITH THE LOWS THAT WE ANTICIPATE GOING ON THAT ROAD.
IT'S JUST THE SHRINK ITTS THAT'S CAUSED BY THE, UM, THE DROUGHT THAT WE HAVE.
SO I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT AREA IN, IN GENERAL BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM POST OAK.
UM, AND I, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ROADS ARE, UM, THEY MOVE AND THEY'RE SOFT.
AND IT, IT WAS OLD, UM, FARMING ROADS.
THE, THE ANSWER FROM THE CITY CAN'T BE JUST TOO IGNORED OR BYPASS IT.
UM, I DRIVE DOWN OLD POST OR NOT OLD POST POST OAK, YOU KNOW, LANGLEY, UH, ALL THE TIME IN ORDER TO GET TO 35.
UM, AND THOSE ROADS ARE IN DIRE NEED OF NOT JUST LIKE REPAIR, BUT THERE'S BIG DIVOTS IN THERE.
AND SO UNFORTUNATELY THE CITY AGREED TO ALLOW THESE ROADS TO BE BUILT.
AND SO IT NOW BECOMES OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF PLAN TO OBVIOUSLY CONTINUOUSLY UPDATE THESE ROADS SO WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF MISERABLE RESIDENTS WHO, UM, FEEL LIKE THEY'RE FORGOTTEN.
COUNCIL MEMBER, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR
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ALMOST 50 YEARS AND, UM, AND WITH OTHER CITIES, EAST SIDE OF I 35 IS, IS ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM.I KNOW THERE'S BEEN GROUPS AND, AND COMMITTEES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEM AND MAKE IT NOT HAPPEN.
I MEAN, THEY LOOKED AT ADDING CONCRETE TO STREETS AND TRIED TO DO THAT.
AND I REMEMBER ONCE THE VISION, IT WAS ALL CONCRETE AND IT FAILED MISERABLY.
UH, THEY JUST DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB OF DESIGN OR ENGINEERING OR WHATEVER, BUT IT FELL MISERABLY.
AND SO THEY'VE BEEN OUT THERE, THERE REPAIRING THAT THOSE CONCRETE STREETS FOR A LONG TIME.
UH, YOU CAN GO DOWN, SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT I'VE SEEN ARE VERY DRASTIC.
I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT GOING FOUR FEET DEEP TO TO REMOVE THAT SOIL AND TRY TO REPLACE IT WITH SOILS AND PUTTING DRAIN, UH, FRENCH DRAININGS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN THERE.
BUT AT SOME POINT IT GETS TOO EXPENSIVE TO DEVELOP AT THAT POINT THEN NOBODY WANTS TO BUILD IN THAT AREA.
SO WHAT YOU TRY TO DO IS YOU TRY TO MAIN BUILD A STRUCTURE THAT'S GONNA HOLD FOR AT LEAST HOPEFULLY 20 YEARS.
BUT YOU'VE GOTTA DO MAINTENANCE ON IT.
IF YOU DON'T DO MAINTENANCE, THEN IT, IT DOESN'T GET BETTER.
AND SO THE LONGER YOU LET SIT OUT THERE AND DO IT, DON'T DO IT.
THERE'S DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES THAT YOU CAN DO TO KEEP IT IN DECENT SHAPE.
WILL IT BE THE PERFECT ROAD THAT YOU HAD BEFORE? NO, IT NEVER WILL BE.
IT'LL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR DIPS AND YOUR RISES OR WHATEVER AND SOME CRACKING.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO DATE TO HELP THAT, THAT SITUATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION OR NOT, BUT IT'S A TOUGH DECISION.
I'VE A LOT OF ENGINEERS I'VE TALKED TO A LOT SMARTER THAN I AM ABOUT PAYMENTS.
AND WE TALK AND WE TALK AND, AND I ASK 'EM, WHAT'S, HOW ARE YOU GONNA SOLVE THIS? AND THE ANSWER IS ALWAYS, LET'S GO DOWN REALLY DEEP.
LET'S PUT A LOT OF FRENCH DRAINS, LET'S DO ALL THIS.
THESE, UH, MOISTURE BARRIERS AND THAT.
AND AT THAT POINT JUST BECOMES TOO EXPENSIVE.
YOU CAN'T BUILD A ROW LIKE THAT.
AND, UH, EVEN TECH SIDE HAS PROBLEMS. IT'S ONE 50, THAT ONE SECTION OF ONE 50 I WATCHED TO BUILD THAT YEARS AGO.
THEY PUT A LOT OF ALIGNMENT IN IT.
AND TODAY IT'S THE UP AND DOWN ON ON ONE 50, SECTION ONE 50.
THERE'S OTHER ROADS THAT I'VE SEEN THERE, JUST CRASHED THEIR WIDE OPEN ON THOSE THINGS.
YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, BUT ROUTINE MAINTENANCE IS NOT CHEAP.
NO, I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THE ANSWER THAT I GIVE TO MY RESIDENTS CAN'T BEATS TOO EXPENSIVE.
UM, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL 'EM, HOPEFULLY IS IT'S ON SOME KIND OF AGENDA TO GET TO GET FIXED.
SO IF YOU CAN, I, I'LL JUST SEND YOU AN EMAIL IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE LAST TIME THAT THEY'VE WORKED ON IN POST OAK AND, AND MAYBE A TENTATIVE PLAN TO IN THE FUTURE, EVEN IF I CAN TELL THEM, HEY, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, YOU KNOW, JULY OF NEXT YEAR.
I CAN'T JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IT.
SORRY, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE LAND THAT IT WAS BUILT ON.
UM, SO IT, I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME KIND OF UPDATE AND, AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE RESIDENTS WITH SOME REASSURANCE.
COUNCIL MEMBER, WE DID A STUDY OF THE POST OAK SUBDIVISION ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, I THINK.
UM, AND, UH, PAID ONE OF THE CONSULTANTS TO DO THAT STUDY AND THEY HAD RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY WE JUST NEVER DID FOLLOW UP ON 'EM BUDGET.
WE JUST DIDN'T PUT IT IN OUR BUDGET TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SOME ARE AS SIMPLE AS DOING WHAT WE CALL LEVEL UP, JUST FILLING IN THE LOW SPOTS AND THEN TRYING TO, TO MAKE IT SMOOTH AGAIN.
OTHERS CRACK SEAL OR TAKE, ACTUALLY TAKE OUT SECTIONS OR TRY TO GO DOWN 12 INCHES OR 18 INCHES OR 24 INCHES AND TRY TO REBUILD IT.
AND THAT TAKES TIME AND MONEY, BUT THERE ARE SOLUTIONS.
INDIAN PAINTBRUSH LIST STATION.
UH, THE WALLS MEN INSTALLED AND THE, UH, WET WELL, UH, THERE'S A BYPASS THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED AND THE REASON WE'VE INSTALLED THAT BYPASS IS SO WE CAN DO THIS PIPE BURSTING PROCESS.
UH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO START THIS WEEK ON THAT.
IT'S A VERY, NOT A, NOT AN UNUSUAL PROCESS.
WE'VE JUST NEVER DONE IT HERE IN, IN KYLE.
SO I'M HOPING TO GET OUT TOMORROW AND SEE WHAT, HOW IT LOOKS.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S SOMETHING NEW FOR US.
UM, THE SYNOGEN ITEMS, WE HAVE THE DOWNTOWN RELOCATION OF THE OVERHEAD COMMUNICATION LINES.
UH, CHARTER SPECTRUM IS ASKED TO BE PAID FOR RELOCATING SOME OF THE OVERHEAD COMMUNICATION LINES, UH, ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER 12, THAT'S A CHANGE ORDER FOR LJA.
UH, THEY, H EER IS A CONSULTANT THAT, A SUB-CONSULTANT THAT WORKS FOR THEM.
UH, THEY HAVE DONE THEIR ASSESSMENT.
THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AN AREA THAT IS SUITABLE FOR THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER IN THE AREA OF WHERE WE'RE PUTTING OUR WATERLINE.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE HAYES COUNTY REGIONAL HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN SO THAT WE CAN, UH, STREAMLINE OUR PROCESS FOR GETTING APPROVALS TO CONTINUE WORKING ON OUR WATERLINE.
ANY QUESTIONS? JUST, UH, TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT GOLDEN CHEEK WOBBLER.
I KNOW WE COULD WORK WITH THROUGHOUT, UH, CERTAIN PARTS OF THE SEASON.
SO, UH, WHAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DATES ARE FOR THAT? UH, THEY TOLD ME.
BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S A SEASON THAT WE CAN WORK YES, SIR.
UH, WITHOUT STUDY, RIGHT? THEY'RE MIGRATORY BOARDS.
BUT, UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UH, THIRD STREET.
DO WE KNOW A FINALIZATION DATE FOR THE PROJECTS THERE YET? I ASKED THE PROJECT MANAGER TODAY AND THEY SAID ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO WRAP UP EVERYTHING.
CAUSE WE STILL NEED TO CLEAN UP AND JUST MAKE AND DO A PUNCH THROUGH THE PUNCH LIST FOR EVERYTHING.
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SO I'M THINKING NO MORE THAN TWO MONTHS, LET'S MAKE SURE WE MAKE THAT PUNCH LIST THAT WE TRY TO PUT THE PEOPLE'S PROPERTY BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE IN THOSE AREAS.THEY, THOSE PEOPLE HAD TO DEAL WITH A LOT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO, TO MAKE THEIR LIVES A LITTLE BETTER.
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WANNA PULL FROM CONSENT? I JUST HAD A COMMENT FROM NUMBER NINE WHEN WE'RE READY.NO WAIT, DON, WE'VE GOTTA GO TO FIRST REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GO TO CONSENT.
WELL, I FIGURED WE WOULD TAKE YOURS AT THE TOP OF CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION WHERE HE GOES, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING FOR THIS? DID YOU WANNA PULL ANYTHING ELSE? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A CONSIDERED AGENDA ITEMS NINE THROUGH 16 EXCLUDING 15 SECOND.
THE, UH, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NINE THROUGH 16, EXCLUDING 15 IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE A REAL QUICK COMMENT ON NUMBER NINE.
UM, JUST WHERE THAT STOPLIGHT IS, IF, IF HARPER CAN HEAR ME.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, STOPLIGHT THAT'S GOING TOWARDS 35, UM, ONE OF THE PFIZERS IS BENT ON THE GREEN LIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT? YES, SIR.
UH, SCOTT EGGBERT FOR THE RECORD, UH, OVER THE WEEKEND SOMEBODY HIT THAT AND THE GUYS CAME OUT TO ADJUST IT.
SO THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON GETTING THAT REPLACED.
I WAS WONDERING IF IT WAS PART OF THE, THE, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT TRUCK HIT THAT.
I JUST WANTED SOMEBODY TO BE AWARE, CUZ I WAS DRIVING.
I SAW THIS INSIDE, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE IT, SO YES, SIR.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO ZERO.
[15.
Approve Plum Creek Phase 2, Section 5 - Preliminary Plan (SUB-22-0262) 101.70 acres; 421 single family lots and 13 open space lots located at the western extension of Etheredge. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval.
]UH, NEXT UP IT'S AGENDA ITEM 15 APPROVED PLUM CREEK, PHASE TWO, SECTION FIVE, PRELIMINARY PLAN 101.7 ACRES 420 ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, 13 OPEN SPACE LOTS LOCATED AT THE WESTERN EXTENSION OF ETHERIDGE.UH, THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL, OH, THERE YOU ARE,
UM, SO I WAS REVIEWING THE PLANS AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN GO TO THE RIGHT SECTION.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE WIDTH OF THE ROADS, IT'S ABOUT 50, BUT I SEE THAT THERE ARE TWO PARKING AISLES IN IT.
AND SO WILL THAT ALLOW FOR THE 20 MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR THE FIRE APPARATUS, FOR FIRE TRUCKS TO GO THROUGH THE, THE TOTAL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CROSS SECTION.
SO THIS, GO AHEAD AND I, LET ME TRY TO PUT, IF, IF YOU GO TO THE PRELIMINARY PLAN, I JUST NEED TO FIND THE PAGE.
I'M SORRY, MY IPAD? YES MA'AM.
IT SHOULD BE PAGE FOUR AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT PAGE IS YES MA'AM.
I'M TRYING TO LOCATE THAT PAGE.
ALL RIGHT, SO IT SAYS 50, UM, IT SHOWS THAT THE ROWS ARE ABOUT 50 FEET WIDE.
UM, BUT IT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE TWO PARKING SPACES ON EACH SIDE.
SO IS THERE GONNA BE DOUBLE PARKING? YES.
WILL THAT ALLOW FOR? YES MA'AM.
UH, SO THE, IF YOU LOOK JUST UNDER WHERE IT SAYS 50 FEET ROW, THERE'S A, IT SAYS 33 FEET FACE OF CURB TO FACE OF CURB, UH, FOR A, AND THIS IS FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT CROSS SECTION RIGHT THERE SAYS, UH, THE MINIMUM THAT, UH, FACE OF CURB TO FACE OF CURB.
AND WITH THAT, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO HAVE BOTH SIDES FOR PARKING.
AND TWO, UH, FIRE TRUCKS TO PASS IS 32 FEET FACE OF CURB TO FACE OF CURB, WHICH IS WHAT THE FOC MEANS.
SO, UM, THEY COUNT, UH, SIX FOOT PARALLEL SPACES OR AGAINST THE CURB AS A SPACE.
AND SO IN REALITY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LABELED AS EIGHT FEET RIGHT THERE IN A 17 FOOT DRIVEWAY LANE AND THEN ANOTHER EIGHT FOOT PARKING AISLE, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM IN THERE FOR FIRE CODE.
OKAY, THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN CUZ I SAW THE 17 IN HERE AND I ASSUMED THAT THE MINIMUM WAS 24
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IF WE WERE GONNA HAVE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES.SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.
OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE ITEM 15, MOTION BY T PARSLEY.
SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TIM RIZZO.
IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, UH, THE MOTIONS TO APPROVE ITEM 15? ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[34. [Postponed 10/3/2022] Discussion and possible action regarding the City of Kyle's open records request and release policies and procedures, including but not limited to Chapter 2, Article IV, Division 2 Code of Ethics, Subdivision VI, Section 2-251 (b) of the City's Code or Ordinance. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
RIGHT, NEXT UP.DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY OF COUNCIL'S OPEN RECORDS REQUEST AND RELEASE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITING TO CHAPTER TWO, ARTICLE FOUR, DIVISION TWO, CODE OF ETHICS, SUBDIVISION SIX, UH, SECTION 2 2 51 B OF THE CITY OF, UH, CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCE COUNCIL MEMBER FOUR SCALE.
SO ON JUNE 22ND, ON JUNE 16TH, 2022 OF THIS YEAR, I REQUESTED ALL FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES FOR ALL COUNCIL TO INCLUDE ADDENDUMS FROM THE CITY.
UM, I WAS INFORMED BY JENNIFER THAT FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES ARE AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION IN HER OFFICE.
BY APPOINTMENT, I WAS PROVIDED TWO LINKS, ONE TO THE CITY'S ORDINANCE REGARDING RECORD KEEPING, SECTION TWO DASH 25, UH, ONE, FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORT, LETTER B, WHICH REFERS REFERENCES RECORD KEEPING N READS ACCORDINGLY, UH, FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORTS, NOTWITHSTANDING THE CITY'S POPULATION SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE VTCA LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE 1 45 0.007.
THE SECOND LINK WAS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 1 4 5 0.007, WHICH HAS FIVE PARTS.
THE PARTS, THE PART THAT CONCERNS ME IS LETTER A, WHICH STATES, UH, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FILED UNDER THIS CHAPTER ARE PUBLIC REC RECORD.
THE CLERK OR SECRETARY OF THE MUNICIPAL SHALL MAINTAIN THE STATEMENTS IN SEPARATE ALPHABETICAL FILES IN A MANNER THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC DURING REGULAR OFFICE HOURS.
THEN ON TUESDAY 20 SEPTEMBER 27TH, COUNSEL RECEIVED AN EMAIL REGARDING A CHARGE FROM THE CITY TO A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST STORE RETURNING TO OBTAINING PUBLIC INFORMATION CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS.
IT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT I REALIZED THE CITY DOES NOT PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION ONLINE AS WELL.
UM, I UNDERSTAND A COST FOR READILY AVAILABLE INFORMATION, HOWEVER, WHEN REQUESTERS DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION, I FIND IT HARD TO JUSTIFY A CHANGE IN MY PURSUIT TO CONTINUE TO BRING TRANSPARENCY TO THE CITY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SECTION TWO DASH 21 2 5 1 B OF THE CITY'S ORDINANCE, UH, REGARDING FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES, REPORTS DELETED UNTIL THE CITY REACHES THE REQUIRED POPULATION.
UM, AND THAT REQUIREMENT AND POPULATION IS IN SECTION 1 45 1 APPLICABILITY OF THIS CHAPTER.
THIS CHAPTER APPLIES ONLY TO MUNICIPALITY WITH A POPULATION OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR MORE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL FORRES THIS FOR? I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO TO CLARIFY, YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UM, THAT OPEN REQUEST, CERTAIN TYPE OF FINANCIAL OPEN REQUESTS CAN ONLY BE DONE OVER POPULATION OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO THE, THE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY HAS DECIDED TO ADOPT IS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.
UM, THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE IS ONLY APPLICABLE TO, UM, CITIES WITH A POPULATION OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR MORE.
UM, IN OUR ORDINANCE, ITS STATES FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES, UM, NOT WITHSTANDING THE CITY'S POPULATION SHALL BE MAINTAINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE VT C A.
SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO ADOPT THIS CODE, BUT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, UH, COUNCIL HAS CHOSEN TO DO THAT.
MY CONCERN IS, UM, A, I THINK BY NOT PUTTING THIS INFORMATION ONLINE AND MAKING IT READILY AVAILABLE, IT, UM, CAUSES A LOT MORE WORK FOR THE CITY, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENT IF THE CITY DECIDED TO PLACE ALL THAT INFORMATION ONLINE, UM, AS DOES THE COUNTY AND OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN DID THAT ORDINANCE GET PASSED OR WHAT, WHEN YOU SAID AN ORDINANCE, A SIMILAR, YEAH, I BELIEVE IT, IT PASSED IN 2017, SO IT WAS NOT TOO LONG AGO.
SO AN ORDINANCE WAS PASSED TO SAY THAT ANY TYPE OF FINANCIAL RECORDS TO BE OPENLY AVAILABLE WOULD ONLY BE UNTIL THE POPULATION'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND IS, UM,
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I, OKAY.SO I GUESS TO JUST KIND OF MAKE IT SIMPLE'S, BUT AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, OUR ORDINANCE REQUIRES US TO GO INTO THE CITY'S, UH, SECRETARY'S OFFICE TO LOOK AT ANY FINANCIAL REPORTS.
THE CITY DOESN'T, ISN'T REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO THAT BY STATE LAW, BUT THEY HAVE ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE THAT DOES REQUIRE THAT MS HOME.
I MEAN, I GUESS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT MY FINANCIAL RECORDS, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TO COME SEE IT IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE OR IF ANYBODY'S AVAILABLE AND RIGHT.
FOR FIRSTLY, THE, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUEST, THAT WAS FOR CAMPAIGN FINANCE, WHICH IS NOT COVERED UNDER THE ETHICS CODE.
THE ETHICS CODE ONLY COVERS FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORTS, WHICH ARE REQUIRED ANNUALLY FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS, CITY MANAGER, THERE'S A LIST.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, THOSE ARE MAINTAINED FOR THE PURPOSE OF FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY FOR, UM, FOR OUR ETHICS CODE THAT, UM, IT ASKS MULTIPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO YOU WORK FOR, WHO YOU'VE GOTTEN MONEY FROM, WHAT PROPERTY DO YOU OWN, THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR, UH, TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES.
UM, THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST THAT CAME IN WAS FOR FINANCIAL, UH, CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS, WHICH IS SEPARATE, AND IT WAS HANDLED BY PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT.
AND SO THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE IDEAS.
THE IDEA OF PUTTING ALL THE CITY'S DEPARTMENT HEADS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORTS THAT ALSO LIST ALL OF OUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, PUTTING THOSE ON THE WEBSITE, UH, WOULD BE, IN MY OPINION TOO, TOO MUCH INFORMATION TO PUT OUT THERE.
UM, AND THAT IS WHY THE ETHICS CODE REQUIRES AN INSPECTION ONLY SO THAT OUR, THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC AND ALSO MAINTAINING, UH, PEOPLE'S PERSONAL INFORMATION.
CAN I ASK IF FINANCIAL STATEMENT REPORTS ARE THE SAME THROUGHOUT THE STATE, OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT WITH THE CITY? SO OUR ORDINANCE ADOPTED TWO FORMS. ONE'S A LONG FORM AND ONE'S A SHORT FORM.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I THINK IT ORIGINALLY CAME FROM OUR PRIOR, UM, CITY ATTORNEY, AND WE, UH, DEVELOPED THAT FURTHER DURING THE, THIS ADOPTION OF THIS AMENDMENT IN 2017.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A STATE FORM AT ALL.
I THINK IT'S A CITY OF KYLE FORM.
CAN THAT MAYBE BE, UM, TWEAKED BECAUSE I KNOW THE COUNTY KEEPS THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ONLINE AS WELL, AND SO IF, IF THEY DO IT, I GUESS I'M JUST CONFUSED AS TO WHY AS A CITY WOULD BE INFORMATION REQUEST CAME IN.
THOSE WERE FOR CAMPAIGN FINANCE, AND I THINK IT WAS DETERMINED THAT MULTIPLE CITIES PUBLISHED THEIR CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS.
THESE, UM, FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES ARE QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN CAMPAIGN FINANCE.
YEAH, NO, I, FOR ME, IT'S ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY ON BOTH BEHALFS.
SO I DO UNDERSTAND THERE'S TWO ISSUES THERE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, ARE EITHER ONE OF THEM CURRENTLY ONLINE AT ALL? YES.
ARE ANY ONE OF THOSE REPORTS, OR DO THEY STAY ONLINE PERMANENTLY? UH, THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES E EITHER THE, THE CAMPAIGN OR THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES? WELL, THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
UM, YEAH, I'M ASKING IF EITHER ONE OF THEM ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE.
UH, THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE, UM, AT THIS TIME, ONCE WE DID THE REDACTIONS TO THEM.
I JUST TRY NOT TO PUT EVERYBODY'S HOME ADDRESSES OUT ON OUR WEBSITES FOR ALL PERPE, YOU KNOW, FOR FOREVER.
AND SO IF WE CAN, YEAH, IF WE CAN UPDATE THAT FORM THOUGH TO REMOVE THAT INFORMATION.
I THINK, UH, THE FORMS, THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS ARE FROM THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND WE CANNOT, THAT'S THE STATE ETHICS COMMISSION AND WE CAN'T MODIFY THE FORM TO NOT INCLUDE.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER FINANCIAL REPORTS? THOSE ARE, THEY'RE PRACTICALLY FULLY CONFIDENTIAL ALREADY.
THERE'S A BACK PAGE THAT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE FILLER OUTER.
IF THEY PUT THAT INFORMATION ON THE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FIRST FOUR PAGES, THEN IT'S THERE, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE FOR INSPECTION.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE THAT INFORMATION IS PROTECTED UNDER THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT ABOUT, UM, HOME ADDRESSES, PEOPLE'S FAMILY MEMBERS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WHAT THAT FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORT IS RECORDING.
RIGHT, BUT YOU SAID THAT'S A FORM THAT THE CITY MADE, UHHUH
SO CAN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO REDACT THAT INFORMATION OR NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON THERE? I THINK, I KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT EVERYBODY'S INFORMATION OUT THERE.
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HERE WANTS THAT.BUT WHAT WE DO, WE DO WANNA SHOW, OR I WANNA SHOW AT LEAST IS ANY KIND OF INCOME THAT HAS COME IN, ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL, UM, MONETARY GAIN THAT WE'VE HAD WHILE WE'RE IN OFFICE OR WHILE WE ARE CAMPAIGNING.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT FOR A, A COUPLE YEARS, RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT KIND OF GOES AWAY AFTER THE CAMPAIGN.
THE STATE DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT THE CITY DOES.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF OTHER CITIES, OR IF THE COUNTY IS DOING THAT, WHY CAN'T THIS CITY PROVIDE THAT SAME TRANSPARENCY? OKAY, SO ONE OF THE THINGS FOR, UH, IN OUR OFFICE IS THAT THE RETENTION PERIOD FOR THESE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES IS TWO YEARS AFTER THE SEPARATION DATE.
SO FOR ALL THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUITE A PACKET OF INFORMATION THERE, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, A COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU SERVE FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN YOU'RE GONE, WE STILL HAVE IT FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISH WHAT INFORMATION YOU WANT POSTED AND FOR HOW LONG YOU WANT IT ON THE WEBSITE VERSUS OUR RETENTION SCHEDULE.
SO THAT TWO YEARS, THAT IS ACTUALLY IN SECTION 1 45 0.01, IS THAT THE STATE WE FOLLOW THE, UM, TEXAS STATE LIBRARY LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES COMMISSION RETENTION SCHEDULE FOR GOVERNMENT RECORDS.
SO IS THAT TWO YEARS INCLUDED IN THAT THAT TWO YEARS IS PROVIDED IN, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, 1 47 0.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE, IF WE DIDN'T ABIDE BY THAT, WHICH WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BY STATE STATUTE BECAUSE WE ARE A POPULATION OF UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WE REMOVED THAT, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE US THE, THE CITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO POST AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL INFORMATION, WHICH I THINK OUR RESIDENTS AND OTHER PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO OBTAIN WITHOUT COMING IN AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH CITY STAFF.
SO AS FAR AS THE RETENTION GOES, RETENTION IS JUST HOW LONG WE HAVE A COPY ANY COPY.
SO IT DOESN'T, THERE'S NOTHING ANYWHERE THAT REQUIRES US TO POST IT TO THE WEBSITE.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF YOU WANT IT POSTED TO THE WEBSITE AND YOU WANT IT POSTED THERE FOR SOME CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, PERHAPS YOUR, UM, ETHICS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT COULD CONTAIN THOSE INSTRUCTIONS SEPARATELY.
BUT THAT HAD BE, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD HAVE THAT CHOICE, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE UNIFORM ACROSS? NO, IT, IT, IT WOULD BE OUT.
THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS THAT ONCE A YEAR WE HAVE TO PUT OUT, UH, WE HAVE TO FILE YEAH.
THIS FORM, RIGHT? IT TELLS WHO YOU WORK FOR, WHO YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE MM-HMM.
SO IT GIVES ADDRESSES, GIVES A LOT OF INFORMATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, Y'ALL'S GOT A TARGET ON YOUR BACK, SO YOU DON'T WANT YOUR FAMILY INFORMATION OUT THERE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WE PROTECT THAT, RIGHT? SO, UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO WHO YOU WORK FOR, THEY CAN COME IN AND INVESTIGATE THAT AND COME TO THE OFFICE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
THE PROBLEM WITH PUTTING THE JOB, PUTTING EVERYBODY'S JOBS OUT THERE.
SO THIS JOB THAT WE HAVE HERE IS, IS PART-TIME, RIGHT? THE FULL-TIME JOB IS THE ONE THAT SUSTAINS OUR FAMILIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE INFORMATION AND PROBABLY IF THEY GET UPSET WITH YOU ON A VOTE OR SOMETHING, WE'D PROBABLY COME AFTER YOU IN YOUR REAL JOB.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOTTA PROTECT AS OUR, OUR REAL JOBS, CUZ THAT'S REALLY WHAT MAINTAINS OUR FAMILY.
THIS IS WHAT WE DO FOR SERVICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THAT'S WHERE I WORRY ABOUT IT.
THE NOW HAVING THE, UH, CAMPAIGN REPORTS OUT THERE, I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING THAT OUT THERE, HAVING IT ON THE WEBSITE, CUZ THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SIGNING UP FOR WHEN IT COMES TO CAMPAIGNING, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT WHEN WE'RE, IT'S THE ONCE A YEAR, ONE THAT HAS YOUR JOB, HAS YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS, EVERYTHING ELSE.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALL HAD, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THREATEN US IN, IN SOME CAPACITY.
SO HAVING YOUR FAMILY'S INFORMATION OUT THERE IS PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA.
WE ALL HAVE CHILDREN, WE ALL HAVE SPOUSES, SO IT'S PROBABLY THAT'S THE ONE THAT I WOULD DETER FROM.
BUT HAVING THE CAMPAIGN REPORT WOULD PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT I COULD GET BEHIND HAVING THERE LONGER.
I MEAN, IT'S ON THE INTERNET IF YOU WANNA LOOK IT UP, IT'S ON THE INTERNET.
UH, THE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE RIGHT NOW JUST DID THEIR 30 DAY FINANCE REPORTS.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUT THERE AND PEOPLE CAN SEE 'EM ONLINE, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, THEY'RE, IT, IT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO WITHOUT AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.
IF, IF IT'S COUNCIL'S WISH TO KEEP 'EM ON LONGER, I THINK I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT.
YEAH, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE, THE PROTECTION PART OF, UM, OF THE FAMILY MEMBER AND SO FORTH.
UH, BUT I, I DO ALSO, BUT I ALSO FEEL THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO RUN FOR AN OFFICE AND YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU DO HAVE TO PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE.
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OF YOUR WORK, UH, PROFESSION AND, AND ENLIST IT.ENLIST IT, UH, TO KNOW THIS IS THE PERSON THAT YOU ARE IN AND WHERE YOU WORK AND SO FORTH.
AND, AND EVEN IF YOU'RE CAMPAIGNING AND SO FORTH, AND THIS IS WHERE I WORK, THIS IS WHAT I DO.
UM, SO I GUESS ON MY THING IS, IS THAT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO FOLLOW UP TO SAY ABOUT THE, UM, NOW I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHY WE DO IT.
CAUSE I KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO THAT YEARLY WHERE WE GOTTA DO THE FINANCIAL REPORT, I'M ALWAYS QUESTIONING, YOU'RE LIKE, OH, DO I NEED TO DO IT OR AM I DOING IT WRONG? YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M, I'M CORRECT ON MY, ON MY VERBIAGE THERE, ON, ON MY DOCUMENTATION.
UM, SO THAT KIND OF ANSWERS THAT QUESTION THERE.
I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LISTING WHERE I WORK AND SO FORTH IN THE ADDRESS AND SO FORTH.
UM, MY ONLY THING, MY ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, UM, MS. HOLMES, IS, IS THAT, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO FILE A OPEN RECORDS REQUEST, COULD YOU JUST BRIEFLY GIVE US THE STEPS OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS AND IF THERE'S A CERTAIN TYPE OF TIMELINE THAT, UH, SPECIFIC REQUESTS ARE NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S FINANCIAL OR IF IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO GATHER EMAILS OR WHATEVER IT IS AND SO FORTH, TO JUST GIVE THE, THE PUBLIC AN IDEA OF, OF HOW, HOW THE PROCEDURE WORKS.
OKAY, SO FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUEST, WE HAVE AN ONLINE PORTAL.
IT'S CALLED GOV QA, AND IT'S, YOU CAN GET TO IT THROUGH OUR WEBSITE.
WHEN THOSE COME IN, THEY GET, UM, LIKE THE REQUESTER CAN CHOOSE A DEPARTMENT FOR IT TO GO TO, AND SOMETIMES THEY CHOOSE NOT THE CORRECT DEPARTMENT.
UH, IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THE STAFF MEMBER PROVIDING THE RESPONSIVE DOCUMENTS.
AND THEN, UM, MY STAFF REVIEWS IT FOR ANY CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.
IF IT'S OVER 50 PAGES, THERE'S CERTAIN PROVISIONS IN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT THAT ALLOW THE CITY TO RECOUP CERTAIN FEES FOR PRODUCING THAT INFORMATION AND FOR GATHERING THAT INFORMATION.
FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE IF WE ARE RUNNING, UM, COMPUTER, LIKE EMAIL SERVER SEARCHES, UH, THAT IS REALLY TIME CONSUMING.
AND IF IT'S MORE THAN 50 PAGES AND WE HAVE TO DO A BUNCH OF REDACTIONS, WHICH GENERALLY WE DO BECAUSE LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, PUBLIC EMAIL ADDRESSES, UM, OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES ARE CONFIDENTIAL.
SO ANY KIND OF EMAILS WE'D BE HAVING TO LOOK THROUGH FOR REDACTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF IT MEETS THOSE QUALIFICATIONS, WE WILL SEND A COST ESTIMATE LETTER.
UM, THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT REQUIRES US TO, IF IT'S MORE THAN $40, MY OFFICE, IF WE WERE GONNA CHARGE ANYTHING, EVEN IF IT'S LESS THAN $40, WE STILL WOULD SEND A NOTIFICATION THAT THERE'S A FEE ASSOCIATED AND LET THEM DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR, OR NOT.
OR IF THEY WANNA REDUCE, UM, THE SCOPE OF THEIR REQUEST, THEN THEY COULD DO THAT TO WHERE IT'D BE LESS THAN 50 PAGES AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THE REDUCTIONS FOR FREE.
THAT, THAT KIND OF ANSWERS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE HAD FROM RESIDENTS IN THE PAST.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, DO, DOES THE CITY CHARGE OR THE CITY DOESN'T CHARGE, BUT YOU'RE KIND OF EXPLAINING THAT IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF WORK AND, AND THERE'S A, A CERTAIN TYPE OF PARAMETER TO WHERE IT'S LIKE IF IT'S 50 PAGES OR ABOVE THAT YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE REQUIRED TO ASK FOR SOME KIND OF, UM, ADDITIONAL FEES FOR IT AND SO FORTH.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND IT CAN BE TIME CONSUMING TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T GET EVERYBODY'S YAHOO OR EMAIL OR GOOGLE ADDRESS BECAUSE IT WOULD BE OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE REFERENCING ON HOW THE PROCEDURE WORKS.
CAN WE ALSO, UM, CAN YOU ALSO DESCRIBE THE PROCESS OF SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO VIEW A FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORTS? UM, THOSE ARE AVAILABLE IN MY OFFICE UNDER LOCK AND KEY.
AND SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO SEE THEM, THEY COULD MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.
UM, THEY CAN COME IN AND THERE'S A LIST OF THINGS THAT I HAVE TO PUT IN THE FILE THAT THIS PERSON, THEIR NAME, THEY CAME TO, UM, LOOK AT THIS REPORT ON THIS DATE AND TIME AND WHO THEY'RE REPRESENTING.
THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
I REVIEW IT EVERY TIME SOMEBODY ASKS ME ABOUT IT.
UM, BUT IT'S PART OF THAT 1 45 7.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE STATUTE THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO, BUT WE DO ADOPT THAT STATUTE.
IT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE, SO RIGHT.
STAFF DOES HAVE TO, BUT IT'S THE ACTUAL LAW STATES SET NOT INTO A CITY REACHES A POPULATION OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
IS IT REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE? SAYS NOT WITHSTANDING WHATEVER THE CITY'S POPULATION IS.
SO THAT, SO MY WHOLE POINT IS TO BRING IT HERE TO TRY TO, TO CHANGE THAT OR ADJUST IT, AT LEAST.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE NEVER BEEN THREATENED, SO I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, AS FAR AS THE FORM THAT THIS CITY CHOOSES TO USE AND IT HAS CHILDREN'S NAMES IN IT, IS THAT, LIKE, IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TAKE OFF OR JOBS AND REDACT IT? IS
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THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN CHANGE THESE FORMS? SO WHEN, CUZ I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I COULD LOOK UP EVERYBODY HERE THAT OWNS A HOME AND FIND OUT WHERE THEY LIVE.IT'S SIMPLE, IT'S FREE INFORMATION AND IT'S ON HAYS CAT.
IF PEOPLE ARE REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT THEY'RE IN TROUBLE.
I COULD ALSO GO TO A LINKEDIN AND FIGURE OUT WHERE PEOPLE WORK.
SO I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE WHAT IFS AND THAT I'VE NEVER EX, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCED THAT.
I AM TRYING TO BRING JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MORE TRANSPARENCY REGARDING ANY MONEY I MAKE OR ANY MONEY THAT I GET IN TO THE RESIDENTS.
SO THEY ARE AWARE SO THEY KNOW.
SO AS FAR AS CHILDREN, AND SO IT REQUIRES YOUR PARENTS, WHO YOUR PARENTS WORK FOR, YOUR ADULT CHILDREN, WHO THEY WORK FOR.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ALL PART OF THE, UM, KEEPING THE STANDARD OF ETHICS HIGH SO THAT IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE'S PARENT'S EMPLOYER IS COMING IN, DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, THAT IT'S WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE AND THAT PERSON SHOULD RECUSE THEMSELVES, THAT KIND OF THING.
THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION IN THIS REPORT.
AND BECAUSE IT'S SO SENSITIVE, THAT'S ALSO WHY IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SEE IT, THEY ABSOLUTELY CAN COME AND SEE IT.
BUT UNDER THESE PARAMETERS, CAN ANYBODY TAKE A PICTURE OF IT IF THEY WANTED TO? OR IS THAT NOT ALLOWED? I CAN HEAR YOU.
IF, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME IN TO LOOK AT THE REPORTS, CAN THEY TAKE A PICTURE OF IT? NO.
BECAUSE IF THEY DID, THEN I COULDN'T KEEP TRACK OF WHO'S SEEN THE REPORT.
SO I GUESS JUST MY OVERALL CONCERN IS DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE FORMS SO INCLUSIVE OF ALL THIS INFORMATION, LIKE BY LAW, DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT? RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION.
UH, PAGE SIGN, CITY ATTORNEY, FOR THE RECORD, THE, THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FORM THAT THE CITY HAS CURRENTLY IS, IS JUST A CREATURE OF CITY ORDINANCE.
THERE'S NOT A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT UNDER YOUR CURRENT POPULATION FOR A FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE.
YOU HAVE ONE BECAUSE YOU'VE ADOPTED AN ETHICS ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES IT.
SO THE, THE FORM CAN BE ADJUSTED TO JUST INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, MONEY THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
UM, I I I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION COMING OR GOING, BUT WHAT LITTLE INFORMATION WE PUT OUT THERE I THINK IS GONNA ONLY BENEFIT THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS IN BUILDING TRUST.
SO CAN WE ADJUST THE FORM TO, TO, UM, MAYBE NOT INCLUDE, WELL, CAN WE ADJUST THE FORM IS MY MAIN QUESTION.
IT'S WITHIN COUNCIL'S DISCRETION TO MODIFY THE FORM.
THE ONLY THING WITH UM, DOING THAT IS THAT NOW YOU TAKE OUT SOME OF THE SAFEGUARDS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE AND THAT'S KNOWN WHO THE PARENTS WERE, WHO THEY WORKED FOR.
SO THOSE THINGS WERE PUT IN PLACE SO THAT WAY THERE'S NO ONE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CITY.
MAYBE SOMEBODY'S PARENT WORKS SOMEWHERE.
UH, SO NOW YOU ARE ACTUALLY, INSTEAD OF HELPING IT ACTUALLY HINDERS.
CUZ NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HISTORY THERE IS.
I I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
THAT'S WHY I, I TRIED TO BRING A CONFLICTS CHECK TO THE CITY TO ACTUALLY INCREASE THAT TRANSPARENCY AS WELL, BECAUSE WE CAN WRITE WHAT OUT ON THERE, WHATEVER WE WANT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WRITE OUR PARENTS' NAME DOWN IF WE ARE NOT GONNA BE TRUTHFUL AND HONEST.
I, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST NOT, TO ME IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IF I'M GOING TO ABUSE THAT, I'M JUST SIMPLY NOT GONNA WRITE MY MOM OR MY SISTERS OR MY DAUGHTER'S NAME DOWN.
UM, I, I, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD ADJUST THIS FORM TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO FILL OUT AND TO PROVIDE THE MINIMAL INFORMATION THAT THE RESIDENTS NEED TO FILL TO, TO BE OKAY WITH THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE.
I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO HAVE CHILDREN'S NAME.
I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO HAVE EMPLOYER BECAUSE WHEN I FILLED IT OUT, I DIDN'T PUT THE EXACT NAME OF MY EMPLOYER.
SO HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS REALLY GOING OUT THERE? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA, UM, HOW OFTEN DO WE GET REQUESTS TO REVIEW THESE DOCUMENTS PER YEAR? VERY RARELY.
HOW OFTEN DO WE GET COMPLAINTS THAT THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE ONLINE? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.
UH, I, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE SPEAKING OF THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORTS AS IF THEY ARE REPORTS REQUIRED OF THE SEVEN OF US.
BUT THE REALITY IS WE ARE ONLY A PERCENTAGE OF WHO FILLS OUT THOSE REPORTS.
AND SO WHILE WE MAY BE MORE WILLING TO HAVE OUR INFORMATION, UH, PUT OUT THERE, UH, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THIS NOT JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHETHER ANY OF US INDIVIDUALLY WOULD WANT THAT INFORMATION TO BE PUBLISHED, BUT ALSO WHETHER THAT'S WHAT WE ARE REQUIRING.
WE WANT OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO WRITE DOWN THEIR PARENTS' NAME AND WHO THEIR PARENTS WORK FOR AND POST THAT ONLINE OR NOT.
UH, AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, A SMALL PORTION OF THAT.
SO I, I, I REALLY DO AGREE ABOUT THE, THE IDEA OF HAVING CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS POSTED ONLINE, WHICH IS WHY ANYTIME YOU'RE INVOLVED IN A CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS REALLY THE
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MAJORITY OF THE TIME THAT WE, UM, POST OUR REPORTS, UH, OR AT RAY CAMPAIGN TO RAISE AND SPEND MONEY, UH, I, I LIKE HAVING THOSE POSTED ONLINE AND WOULD BE A FAN OF HAVING OUR, THE COUNCIL'S CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS, UH, POSTED ONLINE, UH, PERMANENTLY, UH, AS SO LONG AS WHILE WE'RE IN OFFICE.SO TO ME, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
IF YOU'RE WANTING TRANSPARENCY, THAT'S AN ELEMENT OF TRANSPARENCY THAT MAKES SENSE CUZ WE ALREADY DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN A CAMPAIGN.
UH, BUT AS IT RELATES TO PUTTING THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORTS AND CHANGING OUR POLICIES FROM WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY STANDING, I I PERSONALLY DON'T SUPPORT THAT FOR THE REASONS THAT THE CITY SECRETARY HAS STATED.
BUT I DO SUPPORT PUTTING OUR CAMPAIGN, UH, UH, FINANCE REPORTS ONLINE.
SO WOULD YOU SUPPORT AT LEAST TAKING THAT INFORMATION OFF, EVEN IF WE KEEP IT PRIVATE, LIKE I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE YOUR KIDS' NAMES ON THERE.
YOU WANT THERE TO BE SOME KIND OF RECORD.
SO MAYBE MINORS,
YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T AND WE HAVE THIS CONFLICT.
WELL, THE GOAL IS TRANSPARENCY.
IF YOU'RE ADVOCATING TO REMOVE REQUIRED INFORMATION JUST TO PUBLISH IT ONLINE, WHEN THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH A PROCESS, YOU'RE NOT INCREASING TRANSPARENCY.
YOU'RE INCREASING, UM, UH, CONVENIENCE AND PUBLICITY, BUT YOU'RE NOT INCREASING TRANSPARENCY.
THE PUBLISHING OF THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS WOULD INCREASE, UH, IT WOULDN'T INCREASE TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO AVAILABLE, UH, THROUGH OPEN RECORDS REQUEST FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE.
BUT BY PUTTING THOSE ONLINE, YOU ARE ALLOWING FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO SEE THAT AT ANY GIVEN POINT IN TIME.
AND SO I JUST, I, BUT PEOPLE CAN STILL COME IN AND, AND SEE YOUR KIDS' NAME, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT SAYING NO, WE'RE JUST MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER.
WELL, SO, AND WHEN I SAY HARDER, I MEAN, FOR ME, AND I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION FOR ALL OF US WAS, AND I HAD TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH JENNIFER, WHICH, BECAUSE I WORK IN AUSTIN AND I HAVE TO DRIVE HERE.
SO FOR ME, IT WAS REALLY FRUSTRATING THAT I COULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
SO IT'S, I DON'T, I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE HOW A RESIDENT WOULD FEEL IF THEY WANTED THAT SAME INFORMATION.
I MEAN, HOURS BETWEEN EIGHT AND FIVE IS NOT REALISTIC FOR PEOPLE TO OBTAIN INFORMATION WHEN MOST PEOPLE WORK BETWEEN THOSE HOURS.
CUSTOMER ABRE, I'M, UM, I I THINK WE'VE ALL SPOKEN, SO LET'S, IF YOU WANT, UH, YOU KNOW, I I WOULD PERSONALLY SUPPORT THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS BEING POSTED ONLINE.
THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORTS BEING POSTED ONLINE THAT INCLUDE STAFF I DON'T SUPPORT PERSONALLY.
SO I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED IT THOUGH, SO IF WE WANNA VOTE ON IT, WE CAN VOTE ON IT AND FIND OUT.
UM, SO I, YEAH, I WOULD, WHATEVER I CAN GET.
UM, I WANNA MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO POST ALL CAMPAIGN FINANCIAL REPORTS ONLINE.
UM, NOW IS THIS GONNA, SORRY, I DON'T, I GOTTA ASK A QUESTION TO JENNIFER OR TO TO PAGE, UM, THOSE FINANCE CAMPAIGN REPORTS, IS THAT AFFECTED BY THE POPULATION OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND? OH, I'M NOT AWARE OF IT BEING AFFECTED BY THAT.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE THE MOTION WITHOUT THAT THEN.
UM, A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO POST ALL CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS ONLINE, UM, FOR SEVEN YEARS.
NO, IT'S TOO, WHILE THE OFFICE HOLDER IS IN OFFICE.
WELL, UNLESS YOU GONNA GIMME IN OFFICE.
MOTION BY COUNCIL FLORES KA KALE SECOND BY MAYOR PROTON RIZZO THAT, UH, WE DIRECT STAFF TO POST ALL, UH, OFFICE HOLDERS CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS ONLINE WHILE THEY'RE IN OFFICE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT? MOTION? ALLS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL A POST MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
IF I CAN ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE THIS CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS, OUR RETENTION SCHEDULE IS ONLY TWO YEARS.
SO DO YOU MEAN TO KEEP ONLY THE MOST RECENT TWO YEARS ON FOR THE DURATION? OR IS IT TWO YEARS AFTER THE PERSON HAS LEFT? NO, SHE'S SAYING THAT YOU DON'T KEEP THEM AFTER TWO YEARS.
SO I FIGURED THEY AVAILABLE FOREVER, BUT THEY'RE NOT, I GUESS, ALL BOTHERING OFFICE.
I THINK WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, IF IT'S SOMEBODY RAN FOR ALL FI AND
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SO IF SOMEBODY RAN FOR OFFICE AND THEY DIDN'T GET ELECTED, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO THERE? WE'RE NOT AN OFFICE FEW YEARS AFTER THAT.THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE IT WOULD BE FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO HAVE THEIR OWN PAGE, UM, THEIR OWN BIO PAGE.
AND UNDERNEATH EVERYONE'S, IF YOU'RE AN EXISTING COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'D HAVE A BIO PAGE, AND UNDERNEATH THAT WOULD BE ALL THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS YOU'VE EVER FILED.
SO WHILE IN OFFICE AND WHILE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
AND THEN IF YOU'RE GONE, YOU NO LONGER HAVE THAT PAGE, AND THEN THE RECORDS ARE NO LONGER.
SO YOU WANT ME TO KEEP THEM LONGER THAN THE TWO YEARS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, LIKE THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IS THE LAST TWO YEARS, 24 MONTHS SHOULD BE GOOD.
JUST DO THIS GOING FORWARD, LIKE GOING FORWARD, EFFECTIVE TODAY.
I I WOULD LIKE, YEAH, IN THE, I GUESS IN MY MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE TODAY MOVING FORWARD.
SO WE CAN PUBLISH THEM WHILE THE PERSON IS IN OFFICE.
ONCE THE PERSON IS NOT IN OFFICE, A CAMPAIGN FINANCES GO.
IS THAT, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THE DIRECTION WAS FOR WHILE THEY'RE IN OFFICE.
SO THAT, I THINK THAT MOTION LANGUAGE WILL ALLOW FOR YOU TO CHANGE POLICY.
AND I UNDERSTAND YOU ONLY HAVE TWO YEARS AS OF NOW, BUT MOVING FORWARD, AS LONG AS WE'RE IN OFFICE, YOU'LL JUST KEEP ADDING UNTIL THEY'RE REMOVED AND NOT DESTROY.
[17. Consideration and possible action related to a Resolution Approving a Resolution by the Board of Directors of the Alliance Regional Water Authority Authorizing the Issuance of Contract Revenue Bonds for the City of Kyle, Texas in Connection with the Regional Water Supply Contract Project; and Other Related Matters including presentation regarding financing and project updates. ~ Graham Moore, Executive Director of Alliance Regional Water Authority]
NUMBER 17, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO A RESOLUTION APPROVING A RESOLUTION BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CONTRACT REVENUE BONDS FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS IN CONNECTION WITH THE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT PROJECT AND OTHER RELATED MATTERS, INCLUDING PRESENTATION REGARDING FINANCE AND PROJECT UPDATES.MR. MOORE? MAYOR, DO I NEED TO, THERE WE GO.
MAYOR, COUNSEL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, I SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO GET TO IT WITH YOUR NEW SYSTEM HERE.
HE'S BRINGING UP, JUST, JUST WAVE YOUR HAND IN THE AIR.
I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER.
NO YESS, RIGHT? WE'RE, THERE WE GO.
WHILE THAT'S PULLING UP, THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION.
GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR PROJECT TO DATE WHERE WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND THEN TEEING UP, UH, THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION, UM, AFTER THE MEETING OR AS PART OF THIS MEETING.
SO IF WE GO THE, THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, IT'S OUR OVERALL PROJECT MAP THAT SHOWS, UM, SURE, THERE WE GO.
UH, THE SHOWS, OUR OVERALL SYSTEM AND THE NEW WATER SUPPLY THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS OUR WELL FIELD IN THE CARRIZO AQUIFER AND WATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT PIPELINE SEGMENTS TO DR.
THE DELIVER THAT TREATED WATER TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS IN THE MIDDLE, KINDA WHERE THE PIPELINE SPLIT IS A BOOSTER PUMP STATION THAT WE CALL THE MAXWELL BOOSTER PUMP STATION, WHERE WE RE REPRESSURIZE THAT WATER, UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO SEND IT ON TO THE CUSTOMERS.
WE HAVE LINES DOWN TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST THAT SERVE, UH, SOME OF THE KEY AND REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY CUSTOMERS AND AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK ON THAT ALIGNMENT.
AND THEN TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE SEGMENT C, WHICH IS WHERE KYLE WILL RECEIVE ITS WATER, UH, AND TIE ONTO THE SYSTEM.
AND WE HAVE AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IN THIS PART OF THE SYSTEM TOO, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STORAGE AND REDUNDANCY IN THE SYSTEM.
UM, IF WE WERE TO HAVE A POWER OUTAGE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO LOCATIONS FOR DELIVERY OF THE WATER TO KYLE.
WE STARTED WITH THE FM 1626 BOOSTER PUMP STATION BY THE H HEB, AND THEN THERE'S BEEN A SECOND, UH, DELIVERY POINT ADDED AS PART OF, UH, ONGOING, UH, PROJECT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE ON THE SOUTH, UH, EASTERN SIDE OF YOUR TOWN.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TAP AND PROVIDE WATER AT THAT LOCATION AS WELL TO SERVE THAT PORTION OF YOUR SYSTEM.
THIS IS A, A MEASLES CHART THAT WE UPDATE TO KINDA SHOW YOU THE OVERALL, UH, WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR PROJECTS.
WE HAVE NINE DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD.
UH, AS INDICATED IN THAT TOP LINE, THE WELL FIELD, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THAT.
WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS ON THE WATCHMAN PLANT, THE BOOSTER PUMP STATION, AND SEGMENTS A AND B.
WE RECENTLY, UM, AWARDED THE SEGMENT D CONTRACT TO SJ LEWIS CONSTRUCTION, AND SO THEY WILL START GETTING IN THE FIELD AND ACTIVELY STARTING THAT WORK IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
SEGMENT E IS CURRENTLY OUT FOR BIDS RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE SET TO, TO RECEIVE THOSE BIDS ON NOVEMBER 14TH.
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GET THAT UNDER CONTRACT.AND THEN SEGMENT C AS I MENTIONED, THE, THE PIPELINE THAT COMES THROUGH KYLE, WE'RE FINALIZING OUR EASEMENT ACQUISITION, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVAL THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT OUT TO BID IN THE EARLY PART OF 2023 AND START CONSTRUCTION THEREAFTER.
AND THE ELEVATE STORAGE TANKS ARE BASICALLY ON THAT SAME PATHWAY.
I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A, A FEW UPDATES ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO IF WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, SHOW YOU SOME OF THE, THE WORK THAT'S BEEN ONGOING HERE, UH, AND WHAT THE FINANCING YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED HAS GONE TOWARDS.
SO WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT WELLS.
UM, ON THE PRO PROJECT IN THIS PHASE.
THE CRUZO WELLS, UH, THE RIGHT SIDE THERE SHOWS THE SCREENS.
THESE ARE ABOUT A THOUSAND TO 1200 FOOT DEEP WELLS.
UH, WE'VE USED, UH, STAINLESS STEEL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.
THE CARRIZO WATER NATURALLY IS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE, AND SO WE'RE USING A MATERIAL THAT CAN WITHSTAND THAT AND HOLD UP TO THAT FOR THE LONGER TERM.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ALL FOUR OF THOSE WELLS HAVE MET THE QUALITY OF WATER THAT WE EXPECTED AND THE QUANTITY OF WATER THAT WE EXPECTED.
IF WE CONTINUE THEN DOWN FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
IN DECEMBER, 2017, WE PURCHASED ABOUT 760 ACRES OF PROPERTY.
UH, IT CONTAINS OUR FIRST FOUR WELLS, AS WELL AS THE SITE FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
IT AFFORDS US A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THAT PLANT, UH, INTO THE FUTURE AND, AND PROBABLY STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL LAND MORE THAN WE NEED.
AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, OUR BOARD MAY DIRECT US TO CARVE THAT OFF AND SELL THAT TO MAKE FOR A DIFFERENT USE OF THAT.
BUT WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'RE READY TO MAKE THAT DECISION YET.
SO IF YOU MOVE DOWN TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT SHOWS A RENDERING FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND SO AFTER CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED, UH, THIS IS, UH, ROUGHLY WHAT WE HOPE THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
WE HAVE TWO WATER STORAGE TANKS ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE GUADALUPE BLANCO RIVER AUTHORITY, UH, FOR THE TREATMENT AND TRANSMISSION OF THIS WATER.
SO WE EACH HAVE A RAW WATER TANK THAT OUR INDIVIDUAL WELL FIELDS WILL PUMP INTO.
THEN IMMEDIATELY DOWNSTREAM WITH THAT, THE WATERS BLEND TOGETHER INTO THE CHEMICAL MIXING AREA.
AND THEN THE WATER BY GRAVITY FLOWS INTO THE BUILDING YOU SEE THERE WHERE WE HAVE FILTERS IN PLACE TO FILTER THE WATER, FILTER OUT THE PARTICULATE, THEN IT GOES THROUGH INTO THE, UM, CLEARWELL THERE, THE LARGE TANK YOU SEE KIND OF IN THE, THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN.
AND THEN FINALLY, OUR PUMPS ON THE JUST LEFT SIDE OF THAT SCREEN WHERE WE'LL PUMP THAT WATER OUT TO OUR, UH, CUSTOMERS.
SO THAT SHOWS WHAT THE RENDERING'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME CONSTRUCTION, UH, PHOTOS OF WHAT THE ENTIRE SITE LOOKS LIKE.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT, YOU SEE THE TANKS THERE.
THOSE ARE BASICALLY COMPLETE THE 2 MILLION GALLON CLEARWELL ON THE BOTTOM SIDE AND THE TWO 1 MILLION GALLON TANKS UP THERE IN THE, IN THE BACKGROUND OF THAT PICTURE.
UH, ON THE BOTTOM LEFT ARE THE PUMPS THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED.
WE HAVE, UH, NUMEROUS DIFFERENT PUMPS ON THE SITE.
SO SIX OF THOSE ARE OUR HIGH SERVICE PUMPS TO BOOST THAT WATER AS IT LEAVES THE SITE.
WE HAVE TWO PLANT WATER PUMPS FOR USE OF WATER INTERNALLY, INCLUDING FOR FIRE USE IF NECESSARY IN OUR OWN INTERNAL USES.
AND THEN THREE BACKWASH PUMPS.
WE'VE GOTTA CLEAN THOSE FILTERS ROUTINELY SO THAT THEY MAINTAIN THEIR PERFORMANCE.
AND SO WE HAVE THREE DEDICATED PUMPS FOR THAT.
SO THOSE ARE, ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FEATURES, UH, OF THE SITE.
YOU SEE THAT IN THE BOTTOM LEFT IN THE UPPER RIGHT, I MENTIONED THE FILTERS EARLIER.
YOU COULD SEE THOSE, THOSE, UH, METAL CONTAINERS THAT ARE SITTING ON THE CONCRETE RIGHT NOW.
THOSE ARE THE SIX FILTERS THAT ARE INSTALLED IN THIS PHASE.
THE BUILDING WILL BE BUILT AROUND THAT HERE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
AS THEY CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THAT PROCESS, IT WAS EASIER FOR THEM TO PUT THOSE IN PLACE AND BUILD THE BUILDING AROUND IT VERSUS, UH, HAVING THE BUILDING THAN TRYING TO SLIDE THEM IN.
AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT JUST KINDA AGAIN, SHOWS YOU OVERALL SITE.
YOU COULD SEE THE, THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY THAT'S ONGOING.
UM, DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE'RE JUST CROSSING THE 50%, UH, COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THEY ARE ON SCHEDULE TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE IN SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.
AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO US FOR OPERATION IN NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.
SO ARCHER WESTERN CONSTRUCTION'S DOING A FABULOUS JOB FOR US OUT THERE.
WE'LL CONTINUE DOWN THEN TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR MAXWELL BOOSTER PUMP STATION.
WE PURCHASED ABOUT 50 ACRES IN THE AREA OF MAXWELL, UH, AGAIN TO TO HOUSE SOME OF OUR, UH, BOOSTER PUMP STATION THERE.
AND THEN CONTINUING DOWN, IT'S NOT QUITE AS IMPRESSIVE OF A SITE AS THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
NOT QUITE AS MUCH GOING ON, BUT STILL IMPORTANT ACTIVITIES.
UH, THERE IN THE MIDDLE, WE HAVE A 5 MILLION GALLON GROUND STORAGE TANK.
SO THAT'S A VERY LARGE TANK, UH, TO RECEIVE THAT WATER AND, AND GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL STORAGE THROUGH TIME.
AND THEN THE UPPER RIGHT, AGAIN, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE LAST SLIDES WITH THE HIGH SURFACE PUMPS, THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PUMP STATIONS.
ONE PRESSURIZED THE, THE WATER TO THE NORTH, ONE TO PRESSURIZE THE WATER TO THE SOUTH.
LUCKILY FROM THIS LOCATION, AND PART OF THE REASON WE SELECTED IT IS WE CAN FLOW FROM GRAVITY FROM, UH, THIS 5 MILLION GALLON STORAGE TANK TO THE SAN MARCUS DELIVERY POINT.
SO WE ONLY NEED THE TWO DIFFERENT PUMP STATION SETUPS.
AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT IS THE ELECTRICAL GENERATOR PAD.
ALL OF OUR FACILITIES WILL HAVE, UH, ELECTRICAL BACKUP GENERATION.
SO IF WE LOSE POWER, UM, THAT WE, WE CAN CONTINUE TO RUN, UH, AS LONG AS WE KEEP DIESEL COMING OUT THERE TO THOSE, UH, ELECTRICAL, UH, GENERATORS.
CONTINUING ON SHOW A FEW PHOTOS OF SOME OF
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THE PIPELINE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S UNDERWAY.UH, THIS IS SEGMENT A IS THE FIRST PIPELINE SEGMENT AS IT LEAVES THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND HAS TO LOCKHART.
IT IS A 48 INCH DIAMETER PIPELINE.
SO IT'S A GOOD SIZE PIPELINE, UH, NOT SOMETHING WE CAN GO GET AT HOME DEPOT.
A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIAL SPECIALIZED THAN THAT.
UM, ON THE UPPER RIGHT YOU CAN BARELY MAKE OUT IT'S, IT'S A STEEL PIPELINE COVERED IN, UH, POLYURETHANE COATING.
THAT'S THE YELLOW YOU SEE AROUND THAT PIPELINE.
THAT'LL PROVIDE ENHANCED PROTECTION OF THE PIPELINE AS IT CONTINUES FORWARD.
ON THE BOTTOM LEFT, WE HAVE TO CROSS UNDER PLUM CREEK.
AND SO THAT IS A RECEIVING SHAFT FOR THE TUNNELING OPERATIONS THAT WILL GO UNDER PLUM CREEK.
THAT, THAT IS A 40 FOOT DIAMETER TUNNEL AND ABOUT 50 FEET DEEP.
WE'LL HAVE ONE SIMILAR ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND THEN THEY WILL CONNECT THE TWO UNDERNEATH PLUM CREEK AND, AND TIE THAT TOGETHER.
AND THEN THE BOTTOM RIGHT SHOWS THE LINEAR NATURE OF THE, THE CONSTRUCTION AS IT GOES ALONG.
ALL THAT'S CONTAINED WITHIN OUR PERMANENT EASEMENT, UM, SO THAT THEY CONTINUE FORWARD.
AND IT'LL ALSO, UH, WITH THE EASEMENTS THAT WE'RE ACQUIRING AT THIS POINT, IT ALLOWS US TO ADD A SECOND PIPELINE IN THAT EASEMENT WHEN THE TIME COMES.
IT ALSO ALLOWS OUR PARTNER G B R A TO ADD A THIRD PIPELINE IN THAT EASEMENT.
ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS IS WE REALLY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE MANY TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS WHEN THE TIME COMES TO BUILD THOSE OTHER PIPELINES, WE CAN CONTAIN THAT ALL WITHIN THE 90 FEET THAT WE'RE GETTING RIGHT NOW.
SO WHILE THE EASEMENT ACQUISITION PROCESS IS, IS A CHALLENGE, GETTING THOSE EASEMENTS NOW WILL REALLY BENEFIT US FOR THE LONG TERM, MANY DECADES TO COME AS WE NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES INTO THE REGION AS IT'S FORECASTED TO BE REQUIRED.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, SEGMENT B PIPELINE.
THIS IS THE PIPELINE THAT LEAVES FROM, UM, THE MAXWELL BOOSTER PUMP STATION TO SAN MARCUS.
YOU SEE THE BLUE COATING THERE.
IT'S JUST MADE BY A DIFFERENT PIPE MANUFACTURER.
IT'S STILL A STEEL PIPE, JUST A DIFFERENT COLOR THAT THEY USE FOR THEIR POLYURETHANE COATING.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, UH, WORK THAT'S ONGOING THERE TO INSTALL THAT PIPELINE APPROPRIATELY.
I'VE MENTIONED, UH, A COUPLE OF THESE CHALLENGES ALREADY.
EASEMENT ACQUISITION, WE'VE HAD TO GET ABOUT 300 DIFFERENT EASEMENTS.
SO NEGOTIATING THOSE AND WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAS BEEN QUITE A CHALLENGE.
UM, WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND GETTING THE ARCHEOLOGICAL, UH, APPROVALS FOR THE PROJECT.
WE ARE ALMOST COMPLETE WITH THAT.
NOT QUITE, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT DAY PASSING.
THAT'S BEEN A, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CHALLENGE THAN WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED AND ANTICIPATED IT WOULD BE.
WE'VE HEARD TO OTHERS AROUND THE STATE HAVE THE SAME ISSUES.
SO IT'S JUST, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING NOW IN THE STATE WITH THOSE APPROVALS.
AND THEN FINALLY, AND REALLY THE REASON I'M HERE TO DIE IS BECAUSE OF THE COST OPINIONS.
UH, WE'VE HAD SOME UNFORTUNATE INCREASES IN COSTS RELATED TO IT.
UH, I'M SURE AS YOU'RE AWARE, IN MANY OF THE PROJECTS, Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY MOVING FORWARD WITH MATERIAL AND LABOR COSTS HAVE INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
LAND PRICES HAVE ALSO INCREASED.
AND SO, UM, OUR, WE'VE END UP NOW WITH HIGHER ESTIMATES THAN WHAT WE STARTED AND WHAT WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO ASK YOUR APPROVAL FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FINANCING SO THAT WE CAN COMPLETE THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, ON THE CHART TODAY.
SO A FEW MORE DETAILS HERE THEN ON THE FUNDING.
UM, WE, FOR THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECT, WE'VE ISSUED THREE DIFFERENT, UH, TRANCHES OF DEBT ALREADY IN 20 17, 20 19 AND 2020, UH, THIS YEAR IN 2022, WE'RE ASKING FOR IN TOTAL FOR ALLIANCE 48 MILLION.
KYLE'S PORTION OF THAT IS 13.52 MILLION.
SO BRINGING KYLE'S PORTION TO ABOUT 81 AND A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE ISSUANCE.
UM, WE ARE CONTINUING TO UTILIZE THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND THE STATE WATER IMPLEMENTATION FUND OF TEXAS.
THE SWIFT FUNDING WILL GO DOWN TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THE, THE BENEFITS OF THAT FUNDING IS THAT WE GET TO BORROW AT THE STATE'S CREDIT, AND THEN WE, THEY SUBSIDIZE A LITTLE BIT BELOW THAT TO GET PROJECTS LIKE THIS GOING FORWARD.
THEY UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO HAVE WATER PROJECTS, UH, DEVELOPED TO, TO HELP, UH, THE STATE CONTINUE TO, TO GROW.
UM, THE, IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS, 2017 THROUGH 2020, WE HAD HISTORIC LOW INTEREST RATES DURING THAT TIMEFRAME.
I THINK WHEN WE CAME AND TALKED TO YOU, WE, WE NOTED THAT THOSE RATES WERE LOW.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE NOT BEEN AS LUCKY THIS TIME AROUND.
UM, AND SO THE, THE BUDGETED RATE WE HAD FOR THIS STARTING ABOUT A YEAR AGO WAS 3.57%.
BY THE TIME THE WAR DEVELOPMENT BOARD SOLD THE BONDS EARLIER THIS MONTH, IT WAS RIGHT AFTER ANOTHER FED RATE HIKE.
THAT INTEREST RATE WITH THE SUBSIDY WAS UP TO 3.95%.
SO SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAD ESTIMATED AND WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.
UM, WE ALREADY HAVE PLANNED AN INTEREST ONLY PAYMENT AS PART OF THIS DEBT ISSUANCE THAT'S ALREADY BUILT INTO OUR BUDGET BECAUSE THE INTEREST RATE, THAT PRICE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
WE HAVE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ARE ALREADY RESERVED IN THOSE, UH, BOND RESERVE FUNDS.
AND SO OUR TECHNICAL COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD THAT WE NOT ADJUST THE BUDGET, THAT WE GO AHEAD AND COVER THOSE COSTS FOR THIS YEAR.
SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, AND THEN WE CAN JUST MATCH UP TO THE FUTURE PAYMENTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
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GO TO OUR BOARD ON OCTOBER 31ST FOR THEIR ACTION.SO THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR THE CITY.
AND THEN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL ADJUSTMENTS, WE HAD BUDGETED 340,000 IN THE INTEREST ONLY PAYMENT BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER INTEREST RATE.
AGAIN, THAT AMOUNT WILL BE ALREADY COVERED IN THE RESERVE FUND THAT WE HAVE IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO OUR BOARD.
AND THEN OVER THE REMAINING 29 YEARS, THOSE INTEREST RATES, UH, HAVE CAUSED THOSE INDIVIDUAL PAYMENTS TO BE HIGHER TO THE TUNE OF JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS TOTAL AND ADDITIONAL INTEREST, UH, FOR THE SAME AMOUNT BORROWED.
SO WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION.
UM, WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL FROM ALL OF OUR ENTITIES.
UH, WE'VE HAD THREE OTHER MEETINGS TONIGHT TO GAIN SOME OF THOSE APPROVAL.
SO APPRECIATE YOU, UH, UH, ACCOMMODATING US ON ON THIS AGENDA TONIGHT.
ASSUMING THIS IS APPROVED, IT WILL COME TO OUR BOARD ON OCTOBER 31ST FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN, UH, WE WILL LOOK TO CLOSE ON THOSE FUNDS BY THANKSGIVING.
AND AS I NOTED, WE WOULD HAVE OUR FIRST INTEREST ONLY PAYMENT MADE IN, UH, AUGUST OF 23.
LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I'M JOINED HERE TONIGHT BY OUR BOND COUNCIL, CAROL POMBO AND OUR, UH, FINANCIAL ADVISOR, UH, JENNIFER RITTER WITH SPECIALIZED PUBLIC FINANCE.
THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS DOCUMENTS, THEY'VE HELPED US THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
I WANNA THANK THEM FOR THEIR EFFORT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND WE ARE, UH, HAPPY TO, TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE WITH REGARDS TO THE RESOLUTIONS AS WELL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR? MAYOR, PROTON? YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, YOU'RE, I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR CHART AND IT LOOKED LIKE THE LAST SECTION WAS GONNA BE LATE 2024.
AND HOW SOON BEFORE WE START PUMPING WATER AFTER THAT? WELL, I THINK AS SOON AS WE MAKE THAT CONNECTION, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT TO START RECEIVING SOME OF THAT WATER.
WE WORK CLOSELY WITH YOUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS THEY'RE READY TO START RECEIVING THAT WATER, WE CAN MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THEM.
AND JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS DAY, HOW MANY GALLONS OF WATER WILL BE PUMPING TO THE CITY OF KYLE? UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT UNIT, SO GIMME A MINUTE WHILE I, I WORK THROUGH SOME MATH HERE.
UM, I BELIEVE WE'LL BE ON THE ORDER OF ABOUT A THOUSAND GALLONS PER MINUTE.
MY MATH, I JUST WANT THE RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE TO EXPECT IN THE FUTURE.
UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GONNA GET THIS ABUNDANCE OF WATER, JUST BEING CAREFUL HOW WE GROWS THE CITY IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
MAKING SURE WE, YOU KNOW, PROTECT THAT RESOURCE CUZ AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE.
I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, LOOKING AT THESE INTEREST RATES, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A LEGAL COUNCIL THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, THESE ARE GREAT RATES, AND SO TO HAVE THESE AT THE CURRENT ECONOMY STATUS, I DO WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE IT.
UM, AND SO, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GET OURA STARTED.
I, I WISH WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'D BEEN ABLE TO CLOSE ON THIS A MONTH EARLIER.
WE'VE HAD BETTER NEWS ON THE RATES, BUT, UH, WE WILL TAKE THE RATES WE'VE GOT NOW AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT, WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE WITH THE INTEREST RATES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COUNCIL FOR TOBIS? OKAY, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF $14 MILLION, CORRECT? WELL, WE NEED THAT'S CORRECT FOR, UM, 13.52 FOR, FOR KYLE'S PORTION.
AND WHERE, WHERE WOULD WE GET NORMALLY GET THIS FROM JERRY? AS FAR AS THE FUNDING THROUGH, I'LL LEAN ON PREVAILS IN CASE I DON'T GET THIS RIGHT, BUT IT SHOULD COME OUT OF OUR WATER, WATER RATES AND OUR WATER FUNDS.
AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, UNDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE AND IT'S, UH, APPROVALS, WHAT TYPE OF CLEARANCE ARE THESE ENGINEER CORPSE LOOKING FOR? THAT THAT I NOTICED THAT'S ONE OF YOUR CHALLENGES.
YEAH, PARTICULARLY IT'S ARCHEOLOGICAL.
SO ANYTIME WE CROSS UNDER WHAT'S CALLED A WATER OF THE US AND IF WE WANT TO TRY AND AN OPEN CUT ACROSS THOSE, THEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR ARTIFACTS OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD SHOW THAT THERE WERE SOME PREVIOUS HISTORIC USE OF THAT PROPERTY BY, UH, PREVIOUS PEOPLES.
AND SO, UM, HISTORICALLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO DO SOME SHOVEL TESTS AND CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY EASILY, ASSUMING THAT NOTHING'S FOUND.
UM, THERE'S JUST A CERTAIN REVIEWER THAT HAS NOW REQUIRED MORE EXTENSIVE WORK AND MORE SHAFTS AND, AND THE WORK JUST CONTINUES TO GO ON AND ON.
AND SO IN MANY CASES WHAT'S FORCED US TO DO IS GO TRENCHLESS.
WE WOULD ALWAYS GO TRENCHLESS UNDER BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE CREEK ANYWAY, BUT SMALLER, UH, TRIBUTARIES THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE OPEN CUT.
WE ARE NOW GOING TRENCHLESS UNDERNEATH, SO WE DON'T, DON'T HAVE TO, UM, DO THE ADDITIONAL TESTING OF ARCHEOLOGICAL ARTIFACTS THAT WE'D OTHERWISE HAVE TO DO.
SO IT IS LIKE DIGGING FOR FINDING THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
WHAT ABOUT LIKE, UH, ANY KIND OF HIDDEN
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SPRINGS, ANY KIND OF CAVES OR JUST THINGS LIKE THAT? IS, IS ALSO WHAT'S PART OF THIS INSPECTION? IT'S NOT PART OF THAT PERMIT, BUT YES, IT'S PART OF OUR, UH, OVERALL INVESTIGATION.WE'VE GOT IT CLEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT, UH, IMPACTING ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ENDANGERED SPECIES, ANYTHING OF THAT MATTER.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S PROTECTED THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT WALKS THE ENTIRETY OF THE, UH, OF THE EASEMENT TO CLEAR IT ENVIRONMENTALLY TO LOOK FOR ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND IF WE FIND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO DURING OUR ALIGNMENT PHASE IS JUST TO AVOID THEM.
CAUSE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO AVOID THEM THAN IT IS TO TRY AND MITIGATE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE SECOND, AND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY IS FOR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[18. Discussion and possible action for Marketplace streetlights. ~ Robert Rizo, Mayor Pro Tem]
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP.DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FOR MARKETPLACE STREETLIGHTS.
UH, JUST REALLY QUICK, UH, WE HAD SOME BACKUP PICTURES.
COULD WE BRING THOSE UP, JERRY, PLEASE? THERE THEY GO.
SO, UM, I GOT A PHONE CALL THE OTHER NIGHT FROM RESIDE SAYING THAT ONE OF THE LIGHTS WERE DOWN, IT WAS ARCING.
UH, WHEN I GOT THERE, CITY STAFF WAS ALREADY THERE.
THEY WERE MOVING THE LIGHT OVER.
ONE THING I NOTICED IS THE LIGHTS ON MARKETPLACE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE ROADWAY.
UH, THE REASON THEY'RE BEING HIT IS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CLOSE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK WITH DESIGN FOR NEW, UH, ROADWAYS, THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING THOSE STREET LIGHTS SO CLOSE.
ANOTHER THING I OBSERVE IS THOSE STREET LIGHTS ARE PAINTED BLACK.
SO I'D LOVE TO SEE US DO AS A CITY IS PUT SOMETHING REFLECTIVE ON THEM SO THAT WAY THEY'RE IDENTIFIED.
THAT AREA AS WELL IS, UM, WHERE THE LIGHT WAS HIT, IT CHANGES FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE AND USUALLY CARS GET PUSHED OVER BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THE MARKINGS AREN'T CLEARLY IDENTIFIED.
I DON'T KNOW THE SIGNAGE, WE NEED MORE SIGNAGE IN THAT AREA, BUT SOMETHING I LIKE US TO WORK ON AS A CITY, IF COUNCIL IS AMENABLE TO IT, UH, BUT ALSO, UM, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T MAKE THIS DESIGN AGAIN.
THEY'RE ABOUT 12 INCHES AWAY FROM THE ROADWAY AND MAYBE EVEN LESS THAN THAT IN SOME AREAS.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST A TARGET.
I MEAN IT'S, UH, LOOK HOW CLOSE THAT IS TO THE ROAD.
I MEAN, SUPER CLOSE OR A TARGET.
I USUALLY, WHEN I SEE THIS KIND OF LIGHTING, IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK TO KEEP THE SIDEWALK LIT UP.
THIS DESIGN JUST DIDN'T REALLY WORK FOR US AS A CITY.
SO MAKING SURE WE DON'T, UH, REPLICATE THIS IN ANY PARTS OF OUR CITY WOULD PROBABLY BE IMPORTANT.
UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE PUT SOME KIND OF REFLECTIVE TAPE.
I WAS THINKING SEND SOMETHING MAYBE WHITE ON EACH SIDE JUST TO TRY TO PROTECT THEM.
THE OTHER THING IS IF, UM, CHIEF IS CHIEF AROUND, OR CAPTAIN, I MEAN, UH, ANYONE ELSE, UM, GRIFF, COULD, COULD YOU COME UP AND ANSWER A COUPLE QUESTIONS, PLEASE? MAYBE YOU'VE GOT THE INSIGHT ON IT.
SOMETHING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING AS A CITY IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOTTING INFORMATION DOWN WHEN WE HAVE THESE ACCIDENTS, MAKING SURE WE GET INSURANCE REPORTS, WHO THE DRIVER WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, CUZ THIS, THIS WAS AN ACCIDENT, RIGHT? SO, UH, I'M, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING UP THAT WAY AND THEN AS THE CITY DECIDING WHO'S LIABLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE DOING THAT CURRENTLY.
ANY, ANYTIME, ANY STRUCTURE, ANYTHING OWNED BY THE CITY IS STRUCK THAT WE DO A, A CRASH REPORT AND THAT CRASH REPORT WILL CONTAIN THE DRIVER INFORMATION, UH, THEIR INSURANCE INFORMATION.
AND SO HOW WE USUALLY SPEAK WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSFER THAT INFORMATION.
AND JUST MAKING SURE WE GET THAT OVER THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
JUST SO WE KNOW WHO'S ACCOUNTABLE ON THE, THIS SLIDE.
IT'S KIND OF TOUGH BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE.
SO IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING IN THE CITY TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THESE LIGHTS, UH, MAKE 'EM MORE VISIBLE WOULD BE GREAT.
CUZ IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THE WRONG COLOR AND THEY'RE JUST TOO CLOSE TO THE STREET.
SO IS THERE ANYONE FROM STAFF WHO CAN GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT? IN OTHER WORDS, WHY, WHY ARE THEY ENGINEERED SO CLOSE? AND IS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE STREETLIGHTS FURTHER AWAY FROM THE ROAD? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU.
WELL I WAS, WHEN WE HAVE STAFF EARS OR JUST ANYONE WHO HAS THOUGHTS ON THAT, UH, LEON WOULD THE, THE ITEMS POSTED.
SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOMETHING FROM STAFF.
LEON, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? SO I, I THINK FOR ME MOVING FORWARD, CUZ THIS IS ALREADY BUILT OUT, MOVING FORWARD, MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE APPROVING DESIGNS IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T APPROVE THIS KIND OF DESIGN.
DAVE MAY AND COUNSEL LEE ON BARBARA CITY ENGINEER COUNCIL
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MEMBER I, THIS DESIGN WAS THERE WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECTS BACK IN 2013.SO THAT'S THE DESIGN THAT WAS DESIRED BY COUNSEL AND ENGINEERING AND STAFF.
SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON IT, BUT, BUT YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT.
AS I DROVE THROUGH THERE TODAY, I NOTICED THAT TOO.
SO, AND I WOULD'VE THOUGHT INITIALLY THAT MAYBE WE WANTED THOSE LIGHTS CLOSER TO THE STREET FOR STREET TRAFFIC.
BUT I DID NOTICE ON SOME OF THE BRIDGE CO, UH, STRUCTURES, THE LIGHTS ARE BEHIND IT.
WHY CAN'T IT WORK ON THE REST OF THE AREA? SO YOU'VE MADE A GOOD POINT.
I'M THINKING ABOUT THE VISIBILITY ON THE SIDEWALK AS WELL.
WHEN PEOPLE ARE, ARE WALKING, THAT HELPS PEOPLE BE IDENTIFIED.
THIS ACTUALLY PUTS THE SIDEWALK DARK, SO YOU DON'T EVEN SEE THE PEOPLE WALKING ON THERE.
SO IT JUST WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER TO MOVE MOVING FORWARD TO REDESIGN, YOU KNOW, OUR FUTURE, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS IN A WAY WHERE THOSE SIDEWALKS LIT UP, STREETS ARE LIT UP, AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S VISIBLE.
I MEAN, THAT, THAT POSE PROBABLY ABOUT WHAT, $7,000, UH, TO REPLACE.
AND RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET A REPLACEMENT POSE PROBABLY NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE.
SO, UM, MAKING SURE WE CAN DO ALL WE CAN TO IDENTIFY THOSE POLES SO THAT WAY THE DRIVERS CAN SEE THEM.
AND ANY IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN DO IN THAT AREA, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, I MEAN, THAT AREA CATCHES EVERYBODY FOR SOME REASON.
NOBODY KNOWS THAT THAT TURNS INTO A ONE LANE AND THEY'RE ALWAYS IN THE WRONG LANE AND THEY'RE PUSHING CARS OVER.
SO REALLY IT'S, IT WAS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TRY TO RECTIFY THAT AND MAKE IT SAFER AREA IS WHAT I'D APPRECIATE AS, AS FAR AS THE COLOR, I THINK THAT WAS THE DIRECTION WE WERE GIVEN TO MAKE ALL OUR STRUCTURES LIKE THAT.
UH, WITH THE BLACK COLOR, FOR EXAMPLE, ON, UH, OME, THEY'RE ALL BLACK.
UH, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND MAKING THOSE BLACK ALSO, SO MAYBE WE NEED TO RETHINK THAT.
AND, AND I'M GOOD WITH THE BLACK COLOR AS LONG AS WE GOT REFLECTIVE TAPE ON 'EM OR SOMETHING TO, SO THEY'RE IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, WHEN LIGHTS HIT 'EM, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M OKAY WITH THE BLACK AS LONG AS WE HAVE SOME IDENTIFIERS ON 'EM.
ARE THESE THE SAME POLES THAT ARE OFF OF, UM, ONE 50? I THINK THERE'S LIKE A WHOLE BUNCH WITH LIKE, I THINK THOSE ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
ARE THEY, ARE THEY BLACK AS WELL? I THINK SO, YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS NOTICING, I THINK THAT WAS WHY.
I'M JUST, I WAS JUST NOTICING, ALTHOUGH THEY LOOK REALLY CUTE, THEY'RE NOT VERY BRIGHT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO, I CHANGE A LIGHT BULB OR I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S EQUIPPED, BUT I FEEL VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THOSE LIGHT FIXTURES OUT THERE.
THE DOWNSIDE IS, IS THAT THE LIGHTS DON'T SHINE VERY BRIGHT.
SO MAYBE SWITCHING 'EM TO AN L E D A BRIGHTER L E D MAYBE.
AND I THINK WE MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS.
AM I CORRECT ON THAT, SCOTT? YES, SIR.
YOU MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS? WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN THERE? THE GAS BOWL? OR DO WE HAVE THE L E D? BLESS YOU.
SORRY, SCOTT GOT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, THEY STARTED CHANGING THEM ALL TO LEDS AS THEY WERE GETTING, AS THE BULBS, EXCUSE ME, GOING OUT.
AND THEY WERE GOING THROUGH, REPLACE THEM WITH LEDS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S IN THERE AS LONG AS WE GET A HIGHER WAT THAN WHAT'S GOING IN RIGHT NOW.
CAUSE IF THEY'RE KIND LOW, GETTING A HIGHER WATTAGE WOULD BE GREAT.
UH, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE AREAS ARE VISIBLE.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT 'EM IN TO MAKE THE AREAS VISIBLE.
SO MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT WATTAGE AND BULB IN THERE WOULD BE GREAT.
ANYTHING ELSE? YOU GOOD? UH, I'M GOOD AS LONG AS WE GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
JERRY, DO, DO YOU NEED DIRECTION OR Y'ALL GOT IT.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO, I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF THERE'S ACTION THAT'S BEING TAKEN.
YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE ACTION IS THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF POTENTIALITIES THAT COUNSEL COULD, OR THAT STAFF COULD TAKE FROM THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING.
I MEAN, ARE, WE'RE GOING OUT, WE CAN MEET AS A GROUP AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCILS MEETING, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, IT WOULD, I JUST WANT US TO BE MORE CLEAR.
SO I, CUZ IF I WAS YOU, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO FROM THIS CONVERSATION.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF STREETLIGHTS OUT THERE WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT LUMENS.
AND THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT FOLKS COME AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR DARK SKIES ORDINANCE AND THE, THE SPECIFIC RULES AROUND THAT AND THE, YOU KNOW, SO, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF REFLECTIONS ARE REFLECTORS ARE WE PUTTING ON THERE? I MEAN, ARE THESE BIG HUGE THINGS OR SMALL THINGS, OR IS IT TAPE THAT'S BEING WRAPPED AROUND AND AND ARE YOU RECEIVING THAT AS DIRECTION FOR ALL OF OUR STREET LIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OR JUST ON PHILOMENA IN MARKETPLACE? SO I'M JUST, I JUST KNOW YOU'RE GONNA GET PUSHBACK FROM HARPER.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IN PARTICULAR.
THAT'S WHAT WE'LL ME, WE'LL EXPLORE ALL THOSE OPTIONS AND WE'LL BRING BACK OUR RECOMMENDATION AND THAT WE'LL INCLUDE, UH, REFLECTIVE TAPE OR SOMETHING ON STREET POLES THAT INCLUDE, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, RELINING THE LANES ON THE ROADS AND ALSO WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THE, THE LUMENS ON THE STREET LIGHTS WITHOUT AFFECTING OUR DARK SKY POLICY.
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ALL RIGHT.NEXT UP, UH, IS AGENDA ITEMS 19 THROUGH 22.
UM, I'M GONNA BRING ALL THESE ITEMS UP TOGETHER.
UH, I WAS GONNA HAVE STAFF, UH, GIVE, UH, GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THESE ITEMS ARE, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT FOR THE THIS PROJECT IS HERE AND HAVE THEM COME AND SPEAK ON IT.
UH, AND THEN BEFORE WE TAKE UP DISCUSSION, I WAS GONNA ASK IF WE COULD GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, SEEK, UH, ADVICE OF COUNSEL.
SO THAT WAS MY PLAN ON THESE ITEMS. IF ANYONE HAS ANY OBJECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK UP ALSO AGAINST.
THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19.
SHOULD WE GET YOU YOUR CHANCE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19? ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS CONSIDERATION.
UH, AGENDA ITEM 19, CONSIDERATION
[19.
[Postponed 10/3/2022] Consideration and Approval of a Resolution Authorizing and Creating the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District in accordance with Chapter 372 of the Texas Local Government Code; resolving other matters incident and related thereto; and providing an effective date. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Partner, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP
- Public Hearing
The public hearing was left open at the 10/3/2022 Council meeting.
]AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AND CREATING A LIMESTONE CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 3 72, THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, RESOLVING OTHER MATTERS, UH, INCIDENT AND RELATED THERE TOO.
AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20,
[20. Consideration and Approval of an Agreement regarding the Dissolution of the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Partner, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP]
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT REGARDING THE DISSOLUTION OF THE LIMESTONE CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.[21. Consideration and Approval of the First Amendment to the Amended and Restated Limestone Creek Development Agreement. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Partner, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP]
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED AND, UH, RESTATED LIMESTONE CREEK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.[22. Consideration and Approval of a Resolution setting a Public Hearing for the Creation of a Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Number Four (Limestone Creek). ~ Stephanie Leibe, Partner, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP]
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION SETTING PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CREATION OF A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE.THESE ITEMS ARE ALL, UH, SPONSORED BY, UH, OUR BOND COUNSEL, STEPHANIE LIBBY.
UH, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, I'D LIKE TO HAVE STAFF GIVE A BRIEFING ON THESE ITEMS. SO, WHICH STAFF MEMBER YOU CAN START, START WITH YOU, YOU'RE THE SPONSOR.
UH, AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO, IF YOU WANT, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE DRAINAGE ISSUE, UH, WE CAN HAVE AN ENGINEER COME UP.
SO, UH, AS MAYOR SAID, STEPHANIE LIBE NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT, OUR FIRM SERVES BOND COUNCIL, UH, FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
FIRST ACTION ITEM IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, CREATE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT CALLING BACK TO APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
THE CITY DID RECEIVE A PETITION FOR THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FROM BOTH MARRIAGE HOMES AND, UH, LASALLE MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.
THE ACTION ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY WOULD CREATE THAT DISTRICT.
IT ALSO HAS THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO BE FINANCED THROUGH THAT DISTRICT.
IT'S CURRENTLY ESTIMATED THAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF 50 MILLION WOULD BE PUT INTO PLACE TO SERVICE RESIDENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
UH, AT, IF THIS RESOLUTION IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT, THE RESOLUTION WOULD BE FILED, UM, AND COUNTY PROPERTY RECORDS SO THAT ANY FUTURE LANDOWNERS WITHIN THE PI WOULD BE INFORMED, UM, AS TO ITS EXISTENCE.
AS WITH EVERY PUBLIC AND FI, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ACTION TONIGHT IS THE FIRST ACTION THAT WOULD BE TAKEN RELATED TO THAT DISTRICT.
IN ORDER TO PROCEED THROUGH THE FINANCING, WE WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL OF MUL MULTIPLE TIMES TO APPROVE A PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN TO AUTHORIZE ASSESSMENTS TO AUTHORIZE BONDS.
EACH STEP OF THE WAY CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL WOULD BE REQUIRED IN ORDER TO PROCEED TO THE NEXT STEP TO BRING US TO AN EVENTUAL BOND FINANCING.
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ON THE RESOLUTION, OR I CAN WALK THROUGH EACH ACTION ITEM.
YEAH, IF YOU CAN JUST GO THROUGH THE, THE ACTION ITEMS. OKAY.
SO LET ME JUST PULL UP THE AGENDA SO I KEEP MY ACTION ITEMS IN ORDER.
UH, ACTION ITEM NUMBER 20 IS CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF A DISSOLUTION AGREEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
SO SHOULD THAT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BE CREATED TONIGHT, THE DEVELOPER, IN ESSENCE WOULD PROVIDE A DISSOLUTION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY.
SO, IF THE PIT FINANCING, IF THE FIRST PHASE OF PIT FINANCING DID NOT OCCUR WITHIN THE NEXT THREE YEARS, THE PIT ITSELF WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DISSOLVED.
AND SO THIS IS DONE AS A SAFEGUARD MEASURE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE CREATION OF A PIT AND NOT AN ULTIMATE FINANCING.
SO IT PUTS A TIMELINE ON THE FINANCING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD.
SHOULD THAT NOT MOVE FORWARD, THEN THE PIT ITSELF WOULD BE CR UH, DISSOLVED AND IT WOULD BE AS IF, AS IF IT WAS NEVER IN EXISTENCE.
UM, ACTION ITEM NUMBER 21, CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OF FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR LIMESTONE CREEK.
UNDER THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IT WAS AGREED THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD FINANCE, UM, OR WOULD INCLUDE WITHIN THE PROJECT, UM, SOME EXPANDED CONSTRUCTION FOR GO FORTH ROAD, WHICH IS PART OF THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
THIS FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD PUT SOME TIMING ASSOCIATED WITH WHEN THAT ROAD WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.
AND SO THAT WOULD BRING SOME CERTAINTY BOTH TO CITY AND CITY COUNCIL
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TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT WAS ABLE TO COME IN, COME ONLINE AND BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE CITY'S, UM, BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE CITY'S MOBILITY PLAN.UH, ACTION ITEM NUMBER 22, CONSIDERATION APPROVAL OVER RESOLUTION TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CREATION OF THE JURORS.
SO THIS TWO WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP FOR CREATION OF A JURORS.
IT CURRENTLY PROVIDES FOR THE CALLING OF A PUBLIC HEARING ON, I THINK THE DATE IS NOVEMBER THE 15TH, UM, TO CREATE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, OR SORRY, TO CREATE THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, WE WOULD APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL ON THAT EVENING, UM, WITH A PRELIMINARY FINANCE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN, WHICH WOULD OUTLINE BOTH THE PROJECTS AND ESTIMATED COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH TOURISMS IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, WHICH WOULD BE DONE WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED BY THIS DEVELOPER THAT THE PIT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE INSURERS IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE THE SAME IMPROVEMENTS TAX INCREMENT REVENUE, UM, GENERATED FROM WITHIN THE INSURERS WOULD BE USED TO OFFSET PIT, IMPROVE PIT ASSESSMENTS.
SO THAT TAX INCREMENTS THAT THE LANDOWNERS ARE ACTUALLY PAYING TO THE CITY ARE TURNED AROUND AND REINVESTED AND USED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO BUY DOWN THEIR PIT ASSESSMENTS.
SO THAT IS A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF EACH OF THE ACTION ITEMS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE FOR ANY OF THEM.
WELL, IF YOU, UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA BRING UP, UH, UH, MARRIAGE, LET THEM SPEAK ON THE ITEMS, AND THEN I'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LET MR. COLEMAN COME AND SPEAK.
MY NAME IS JUSTIN BELMORE WITH MARRIAGE HOMES VICE PRESIDENT OF LAND ACQUISITION.
JOINING ME TODAY IS BRANDON HAMMOND, OUR VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT, AND HE'LL BE HANDLING ALL THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS FOR, FOR ME.
UH, ALSO WITH US IS, UH, PROMIS SINCLAIR OF MILO SINCLAIR, OUR, UH, PUBLIC FINANCING DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AS WELL AS OUR, UH, PATRICK BNE FROM SUNDANCE ANALYTICS.
OUR, UH, OUR PI, UH, FINANCIAL ADVISOR AS WELL.
UM, YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE, BUT I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE CITY AND STAFF THAT WE ARE ENERGY STAR PARTNER, UH, OF THE YEAR SUSTAINED EXCELLENCE.
WE BUILD ENERGY EFFICIENT HOMES.
THAT'S OUR BREAD AND BUTTER, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE DOING HERE.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO AVID AWARD WINNERS, UH, FOR COMPU, UH, CONSUMER, UM, SERVICE PROVIDED.
THIS IS OUR PROPOSED, UM, LAND PLAN WITH A PIT AND DETERS, UH, OBVIOUSLY NOT DEPICTED HERE IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL LAND PLAN THAT WAS PRE, UH, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED GO FORTH BOULEVARD IS THE NORTH SOUTH, UH, COLLECTOR ROAD ON THE EASTERN, UH, PORTION OF OUR PROJECT.
AND REALLY, I THINK STEPHANIE, UH, DID A GREAT JOB SUMMARIZING THE ACTION ITEMS AND, AND STOLE A LOT OF MY THUNDER.
I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WILL CAUSE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF GOFORTH BOULEVARD TO COMMENCE NO LATER THAN THREE YEARS FROM THE ISSUANCE OF OUR FIRST BOND SALE.
IF WE APPROVE THE PI TONIGHT, WE, UH, OUR SCHEDULE WILL BE THAT OUR FIRST BOND ISSUANCE WILL BE EARLY SPRING OF 2023, THEREFORE, THE CONSTRUCTION OF GO FORTH ROAD WOULD BE COM UH, COMMENCING NO LATER THAN, UH, EARLY SPRING 2026.
SO THE DRAINAGE ISSUE,
IT IS, IT IS AN INTERESTING, UM, TOPIC.
UM, OUR DISCHARGE POINT IS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, RIGHT NOW, UH, THE STORM WATER THAT IS COLLECTED ON THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY FLOWING TO THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER.
WE ARE, UH, PLANNING ON DETAINING AND IMPROVING THE DETENTION OF THAT AREA TO REDUCE THE, UH, FLOW OFF OF OUR SITE BELOW EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, WHICH IS AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT IS REQUIRED UNDER DEVELOPMENT CODE AND LAW.
SO WILL THERE ANY BE, WOULD THERE BE ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES IF YOU DO THAT RETENTION POND INSIDE YOUR PROPERTY? WILL THERE BE ANY DRAINAGE ISSUES? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S WITH THE CITY ENGINEER AND, AND WHAT OUR TEAM WILL BE DESIGNING TO, TO SOLVE.
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AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DESIGNING TO ATLAS 14 STANDARDS, UM, HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD EVENTS.AND SO WE'RE REDUCING THAT FLOW BELOW EXISTING CONDITIONS.
UM, ONCE IT LEAVES OUR PROPERTY, THAT'S ANOTHER DEVELOPER.
UM, AND, AND THEY WILL BE ACCEPTING OUR CONVEYANCE, OUR DISCHARGE OF, OF STORM WATER AND RECON CONVEYING IT ELSEWHERE.
UM, BUT US THAT, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES AND THE SCOPE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR QUESTIONS.
MY, MY PLAN WAS, BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY THE WAY WE DO IT, SO I WAS JUST GONNA LET, I WAS GONNA LET THEM SAY WHAT THEY WANNA SAY.
I WAS GONNA LET MR. COLEMAN COME AND SAY WHAT THEY WANNA SAY, AND THEN LET US GO AND FIRST TALK TO OUR ATTORNEYS, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK OUT AND WE'LL UNDERSTAND THE PARAMETERS, WHAT WE CAN ASK AND CAN'T ASK RIGHT.
AND THEN WE CAN GO AND ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT.
BUT I WANTED TO GIVE MR. COLEMAN A CHANCE TO COME UP AFTER THEY HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THE DRAINAGE ISSUES, KNOWING WHAT HE'S GONNA SAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY APPRECIATE NOT BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE WITH THEM DIRECTLY.
NO, I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M SORRY.
TYPICALLY, THE WAY WE DO ALL OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, AS WE COME UP, WE HAVE THE ITEM BRIEFED, THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, THEN WE BRING BACK THE, THE APPLICANT AND ASK QUESTIONS.
THAT'S THE WAY I'VE DONE IT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS GIVE DEFERENCE TO MR. COLEMAN AND ALLOW FOR HIM TO COME.
AND I UNDERSTAND HEARING, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT USUALLY WE JUST HAVE THE HEARING FIRST.
AND SO, NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT, BUT IT IS, GO AHEAD.
UH, IF Y'ALL WANNA ASK QUESTIONS, WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER IT.
I CAN'T SPEAK IN ES YOU KNOW,
AND I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT TO JUSTIN'S POINT.
UM, THE, UH, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND RIGHT NOW PHASE ONE, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
I'M SORRY, UH, PHASE ONE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION ALONG WITH WATERSTONE BOULEVARD.
BOTH OF THOSE PLAN SETS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY AND PERMITTED BY THE CITY.
THEY MEET ALL THE CODE AND CRITERIA AT FULL BUILDOUT.
WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED PHASES THREE OR FOUR, BUT AS FAR AS DOING SOME CONCEPTUAL DESIGN TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE DRAINAGE IS GONNA WORK ALONG THAT EASTERN BOUNDARY OF OUR SUBDIVISION, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT.
AND SO, UPON FULL BUILDOUT AND WITHIN THE, THE LIMITS OF OUR, UH, PROPOSED PROJECT, IT'LL ALL BE CODE COMPLIANT, MEET DESIGN CRITERIA.
SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY SORT OF DRAINAGE PROBLEMS, FLOODING PROBLEMS WITHIN OUR DEVELOPMENT, CUZ THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE CONTROL OVER.
FURTHERMORE, UH, CODE REQUIRES POST DEVELOPMENT FLOWS HAVE TO BE EQUAL, LESSON PREDEVELOPED FLOWS.
SO OUR PLAN IS TO MEET THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH PHASE ONE AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE GETTING RUNOFF OVER TO THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF OUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND WE DO PLAN TO ACTUALLY, UH, AS PART OF THE, UM, BENEFITS OF THE PIT AND TURS.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA RETAIN OR DETAIN ADDITIONAL RUNOFF SO THAT OUR RUNOFF RATES ARE ACTUALLY ABOUT 10% LOWER THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED BY CODE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF, LET'S JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S A HUNDRED CFS OR A HUNDRED CUBIC FEET PER SECOND COMING OFF THE PROPERTY IN EXISTING EXISTING CONDITIONS, WE'RE ALLOWED TO DISCHARGE UP TO A HUNDRED CUBIC FEET PER SECOND IN PROPOSE CONDITIONS.
WE'RE, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE, UH, DISCHARGING AT 90 CUBIC FEET PER SECOND.
THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T THE EXACT NUMBERS.
I'M JUST SAYING FOR CONTEXT, WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE DISCHARGING AT ABOUT 10% BELOW WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED PER CODE.
SO WHERE'S THAT DISCHARGE COIN? UH, THE MAJORITY OF IT GOES TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN THERE IS LIKE A, A, A BASIN ON THE NORTH SIDE.
IT'S A SMALLER WIND, SO, WELL, WELL, YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE GREEN SORT OF THESE QUESTIONS POLYGON UP THERE IN THE MIDDLE, AT THE TOP, IN THE MIDDLE.
THAT IS ANOTHER POND THAT'LL BE USED TO DISCHARGE.
CAUSE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE NATIONAL DRAINAGE PATTERN.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER POND THAT'LL BE LOCATED UP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO I GUESS, MIKE, CAN I KEEP ASKING QUESTION? GET, UH, LET'S WAIT UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION PLEASE.
LET'S, UH, GET MR. UH, COLEMAN A CHANCE.
AND, AND I GUESS JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REDUCING IT TO 90%, ASSUMING THE PIT AND THE TUR WERE, WERE APPROVED.
UM, IF IT ISN'T, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE, WE GO BACK TO WHAT CODE WAS.
I'LL WAIT TILL WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS THEN.
THIS ADAM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? UH, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THAT PUBLIC HEARING NOW, MR. COLEMAN.
I'M THE, UH, MANAGING GENERAL PARTNER FOR FM
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UH, 1 58 LAND.WE OWN 600 ACRES THAT ADJOINS THEIR PROPERTY.
AND, UH, I HAVE, UH, JUST SOME HANDOUTS THAT I'D LIKE TO PASS OUT TO YOU, AND THEN I'LL EXPLAIN.
IF YOU, IF YOU JUST GIMME ME, I'LL PASS HIM DOWN.
THIS IS, UH, I HAVE A WRITTEN STATEMENT, BUT WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS, FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GO FORTH ROAD BEING BUILT.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GO FORTH ROAD BEING BUILT.
AND I'VE SEEN THE PLANS FOR GO FORTH ROAD AND THEY HAVE PIPE IN THERE, PIPING IN THERE THAT WILL TAKE IT TO A, ALMOST TO A CHANNEL THAT I BUILT.
UH, AND ALLIANCE BUILT, UH, SOMEONE THAT BOUGHT PROPERTY FROM ME TO TRANSPORT TO T UH, TRANSPORT THE WATER TO OUR DETENTION PONDS.
I'M JUST GONNA READ MY PUBLIC STATEMENT FIRST.
I'VE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT THE CITY OF KYLE MADE AN AN AGREEMENT WITH LASALLE MUD NUMBER ONE AGREEMENT REGARDING ROADWAY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS BACK IN DECEMBER 15TH, 2020.
AND IN THAT AGREEMENT, THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO BUILD BERMS, THE DIVERT AND CHANNELIZE THE STORM WATER ONTO THE COLEMAN PROPERTY FM 1 58, FM 1 58 S LAND.
I AM THE MANAGING MEMBER OF THIS PROPERTY.
I DID NOT AGREE TO THIS WATER.
I, AND NO ONE CAME AND TALKED TO ME WHEN THIS AGREEMENT WAS BEING DRAFTED.
THIS IS WHY THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS A WATER CODE CHAPTER 11, SECTION 86, NO PERSON MAY DIVERT OR IMPOUND THE NATURAL FLOW OF SURFACE WATERS IN THE STATE OR PERMIT THE VERSION OF IMPOUNDING HERE.
THAT'S THIS, THIS IS THE, THE, THE WATER CODE THAT I GAVE YOU A COPY OF.
I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS BECAUSE I NOTICED CONSTRUCTION ALREADY IS TAKING PLACE ON LIMESTONE CREEK DEVELOPMENT AT THAT TIME.
WE ASKED FOR A, UH, A MONTH OR SO LATER WHEN I WAS ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT, WE ASKED THEM TO CEASE DESIST UNTIL WE ALL GOT TOGETHER.
I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY ANY, ANY AGREEMENTS WERE MADE BETWEEN ANYBODY.
WHEN I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS ACCEPTING ALL THE WATER, ALL THE WATER WAS COMING TO MY PROPERTY, NONE TO ANYBODY ELSE'S.
THE WATER COMING OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY IS, WHAT THEY'RE NOT TELLING YOU IS ONCE IT COMES OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY, AND THEY'RE RIGHT, IT BELONGS TO THE NEXT GUY OVER.
AND THAT IS, AND AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO BUILD DIVERSION D***S THAT WAS DONE IN 20, UH, DECEMBER 15TH, 2020.
AND, AND SCOTT SELLERS, UH, SCOTT SELLERS WAS THE ONE THAT EXPLAINED IT TO YOU.
AND I THINK OUR ATTORNEY GAVE EACH ONE OF YOU THE VIDEO OF IT.
AND HE COMES, HE COMES IN AND HE SAYS, WE ARE GOING TO, WE ARE GOING TO DIVERT THE WATER WITH THESE, UH, DITCHES, AND IT'S THE WATER OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY.
WE'RE GOING TO DIVERT THE WATER AND, AND FLOW IT DOWN AND, AND CHANNELIZE IT AND FLOW IT DOWN TO THE COLEMAN PROPERTY.
THAT'S, THOSE ARE HIS WORDS CLOSE TO HIM.
YOU KNOW, I, SO I I AM NOT, I'M NOT GONNA LET FM 1 58 LANDS PROPERTY RIGHTS BE DIMINISHED SO THAT THE CITY MARRIAGE, LEMAR LA SAL WATERSTONE OR DEVELOPMENT CAN BENEFIT WITH BUILDING MORE HOMES ON THEIR DEVELOPMENTS FROM AN ILLEGAL DIVERSION OF WATER.
THE MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER BEING DIVERTED TO OUR PROPERTY WILL EVENTUALLY CAUSE MASSIVE FLOODING AND, AND DAMAGE TO FM 1 58 SLS PROPERTY, POSSIBLY FLOODING FM ONE 10 AND YERINGTON ROAD.
MY, WHEN IT, THAT WATER COMES TO MY PROPERTY, IT IS IMPOUNDED.
IF IT GOES TO THE EAST LIKE IT HAS FOR 40 YEARS, THEN THAT WATER GOES TO THE FARMERS AND THE RANCHERS DOWN TO THE EAST AND, AND, AND IT, IT, IT IS SOME USE TO THEM ON MY PROPERTY.
WE REQUEST, THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT VOTE TO APPROVE THIS PLAN AT THIS TIME SO THAT IT ALL IN THE PLAN CAN BE CONTEMPLATED WITH ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, INCLUDING FM 1 58, WHICH IS ME.
I HAVE, I HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS TO THIS POINT, WHICH, UH, WHICH IS NOT INCLUDE DUMPING.
I I'LL, YOU KNOW, WILL CONTEMPLATE
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IT, IT BEEN, BUT IF IT INCLUDES DUMPING, UH, MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF STORM WATER AND F ONE 50 EIGHT'S PROPERTY, I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT THE REGIONAL DETENTION POND FOR, FOR, FOR THIS WHOLE AREA.AND THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE PLAN FOR EVERYBODY.
UH, THIS AMENDMENT, THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO AMEND THE RESTATED LIMESTONE CREEK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS CORRECT THAT THE, THE, THE, THERE'S ONE PART IN HERE THAT HAULS ITS THROWING IS MOVING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE LAND FOR, UH, FOR FROM 18 MONTHS, I BELIEVE, TO THREE YEARS.
BUT TODAY WE RECEIVED THE, UH, EXHIBIT F AND IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT F, YOU CAN SEE WHERE, AGAIN, THEY'RE CHANNELIZING THE WATER TO MY PROPERTY, BUT THEY NOT, NOT, THEY, NOT ONLY, I DON'T SEE WHERE THEY'RE COMING DOWN.
I ONLY GOT THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO AND I DON'T SEE WHERE THEY'RE COMING DOWN, UH, GO FORTH ROAD ANYMORE.
BUT THEY'RE TAKING ALL THEIR WATER TO THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER, AND THEY ARE BUILDING A BIGGER DETENTION POND THERE.
BUT THEY'RE NOT ONLY FLOWING THEIR WATER ONTO ME, NOW THEY'RE PUMPING IT, THEY'RE PUTTING IN A PUMP STATION THAT'S, I THINK, 10 FOOT DEEP, AND THEN THEY'RE PUTTING PUMPS IN THAT, AND THEY'RE PUMPING THE WATER ON ME.
SO I DON'T, I, I, I JUST, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO HAVE MY ENGINEER, MY ENGINEERS FIGURE THIS OUT, BUT MY ENGINEERS, THERE'S A LETTER, THERE'S A LETTER ON THE BACK OF THIS COMING FROM MY ENGINEER ON THE CUBIC FEET PER SECOND.
IT'S A LOT MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAVE SAID IN THE PAST, AT LEAST DO SET DOUCETTE IS THEIR ENGINEER.
NOW, I, I HAVE, I HAVE THE, THE PEOPLE THAT DID THEIR ORIGINAL ENGINEERING AND, AND THEIR ARROWS AND, AND, AND QUANTITIES ARE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT DOUCETTE DOUCETTE HAS.
SO I, UH, I'M JUST, I, I DON'T THINK IT OUGHT TO BE APPROVED UNTIL I'M INVOLVED.
AND MY ENGINEERS ARE INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEIR ENGINEERS, UH, LASALLE'S ENGINEERS, WHOEVER ELSE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN.
BUT IT, RIGHT NOW, IT'S ALL DUE SET.
AND, UH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE ENGINEERS FOR THESE GUYS.
THEY'RE ENGINEERS FOR LASALLE.
ALL THE LASALLE PROJECTS ARE THE ENGINEER FOR LENAR TOO.
SO I FEEL LIKE, UH, ROCKY BEBO IN A FIGHT HERE, BUT I'M GONNA FIGHT IT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SING DONE.
I'M GONNA GO, UH, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS NOW CLOSED.
UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, SEEK THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL, AND COME BACK OUT AND CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THE APPLICANTS.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? ALL RIGHT.
WE ARE IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THESE ITEMS, OR PM I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
WE STILL HAVE THE FOUR ITEMS, UH, ABOVE US.
DOES, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT RELATED TO THE AGREEMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE KALE.
UM, I WANNA SAY FIRST OF ALL, THAT, UM, THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT YOUR DEVELOPMENT THAT I DO NOT LIKE.
OKAY? I DO HAVE CONCERNS AND NOT CONCERNS FOR A COMPANY AND NOT CONCERNS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT CONCERNS FOR A LANDOWNER IN MY DISTRICT.
UM, AND SO THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M GONNA ASK ARE GONNA BE, UM, PERTAINING TO MAKING SURE THAT, UM, I PROTECT THE, THE LANDOWNER IN MY DISTRICT, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO TAKE IT PERSONAL.
UM, I JUST WISH THAT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, COOPERATION AND WORKING TOGETHER TO JUST MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR COUNSEL.
UM, I, IT'S A STICKY, STICKY SITUATION.
AND I, I WE'RE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, I DO LIKE THE PRODUCT AND I DO LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO BRING.
UM, BUT JUST MY CONCERNS ARE MY CONCERNS.
UM, I SEE IN THE, THE LIMESTONE CREEK SUBDIVISION DRAINAGE, CONVENIENCE CONVEYANCE, IT'S EXHIBIT F.
UM, I SEE YOU HAVE DETENTION PONDS, BUT NO RETENTION PONDS.
AND THE DE DETENTION POND THAT YOU HAVE IS GONNA BE 10 FOOT DEEP WITH A PUMP.
SO WHERE ARE YOU GUYS PUMPING THAT WATER? SO WE'RE PUMPING THAT WATER TO THE LASALLE MUD PROPERTY.
UM, AND BRANDON, THAT PUMP IS JUST TO MOVE THE WATER OVER A, UH, EXISTING PIPELINE, CORRECT? TO EXISTING GAS TRANSITION MEANS.
SO, SO WE'RE PUMPING IT OUT OF ONE POND
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AS THAT FILLS UP AND INTO THE NEXT POND, JUST OVER THAT EASEMENT, SINCE WE CAN'T GO UNDERNEATH THAT EXISTING PIPE.SO THAT'S WHAT THE PUMP'S DOING.
IT'S NOT PUMPING WATER AND FORCING IT.
IT'S AS PONDS FILL UP, IT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH OUR DETENTION SYSTEM AND DISCHARGES AT A LOWER RATE THAN WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY DOING.
BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T DISCHARGE TO A RETENTION POND, RIGHT? CORRECT.
IT, IT HOLDS THE WATER AND THEN IT SLOWLY DISCHARGES IT, UM, AT, AT A ALLOWABLE RATE.
I DON'T, SO MY ONLY FEAR IS, UH, TEXAS TENDS TO FLASH FLOOD.
AND SO IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF EVENT WHERE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAIN, AND EVEN THE PUMPS CAN'T PUMP IN THE DIRECTION YOU WANT IT TO, I, I, I GET WORRIED THAT IT'S GOING TO, UM, AFFECT, UH, ANOTHER LANDOWNER'S LAND.
UM, SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BRANDON, BUT WE'RE GOING WITH THE MOST STRICT REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS ATLAS 14 AND A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD EVENT.
THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED BY CITY CODE.
AND THERE'S A FACTOR OF SAFETY THAT'S BUILT IN.
SO WE DON'T DESIGN JUST TO THE EXACT AMOUNT OF DETENTION THAT WE NEED.
WE PUT WHAT'S CALLED FREEBOARD ON TOP OF THAT.
SO WE'VE GOT A FACTOR OF SAFETY BUILT IN UP TO THE HUNDRED YEAR STORM, THE STORM THAT OCCURS ONCE EVERY A HUNDRED YEARS.
SO WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME IS WHAT I GET ALL THE TIME, WHICH IS JUST A SNAPSHOT, AND IT DOES BOTHER ME.
THIS IS A CITY, AND THIS IS HOW WE NORMALLY GET STUFF.
SO EVEN THOUGH I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND I KNOW IT'S GOING TO LEAVE THIS LAND AND MAYBE GO TO LASALLE, THAT'S WHERE IT STOPS.
I HAVE NO OTHER CONFIRMATION THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ONTO ANOTHER LANDOWNER'S, UH, PROPERTY AND CAUSE ISSUES.
SO TO, UH, TO CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE IS WITH THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE PUTTING IN AN INTERCEPTOR CHANNEL.
IT'S, IT'S IN LIEU OF WHAT'S CALLED THE SPOONER BERM, WHICH IS PART OF THE LASALLE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY BETWEEN LASALLE AND THE CITY OF KYLE.
THIS IS GONNA BE AN ENHANCED CONTROL TO INTERCEPT FLOW ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF QUAIL RIDGE SUBDIVISION.
THAT'S, THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DIVERTING THAT RUNOFF AROUND THE NORTHEASTERN EDGE OF QUAIL RIDGE SUBDIVISION TO OUR DISCHARGE POINT AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF OUR PROJECT.
FURTHERMORE, IN THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, LIKE WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON PHASES THREE AND FOUR, THIS ISN'T, THIS IS FUTURE, THIS IS, THIS IS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THAT FAR ALONG YET IN OUR DESIGN.
SAY YOU DO PHASE ONE AND YOU DO PHASE TWO, RIGHT? AND THEN IN PHASE THREE YOU REALIZE THERE'S GONNA BE A REAL ISSUE WITH DRAINAGE.
HOW WOULD YOUR COMPANY FEEL HAVING TO STOP AT JUST THAT? BECAUSE, AND THEN I GET YOU GUYS PLANNED A AS YOU PHASE OUT, BUT KNOWING THAT THERE COULD BE AN ISSUE HERE, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS IT, IS IT WORTH A POSSIBLE RISK TO DO ONE AND TWO PHASE, BUT AT THREE, THEN WE REALIZE THERE'S AN ISSUE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL OCCUR.
UM, I MEAN, YOUR ENGINEERS WILL BE REVIEWING, UH, OUR PLAN SETS AND ENSURING THAT, UM, WE'RE MEETING EVERYTHING TO CODE AND, AND DESIGNING TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE JUST ARTICULATED.
UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHERE IT GOES AFTER IT LEAVES OUR PROPERTY THAT'S IN AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF COWELL AND, AND, AND THE MUD.
AND, AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY CONTROL OR SAY OVER THAT.
UM, WE CAN'T INSTALL ANYTHING ON THE MUD DISTRICT PROPERTY THAT CHANGES THE DIRECTION OF IT.
WE JUST KNOW THAT OUR PROPERTY DISCHARGES AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, THAT'S REALLY ALL WE'RE ALLOWABLE OR ALL WE'RE ALLOWED TO DISCHARGE OUR STORM WATER OFF INTO THAT, THAT SPECIFIC POINT.
UM, IT WAS, IT'S ALREADY IDENTIFIED IN OUR APPROVED PRELIM PLAN AND, UH, THE HISTORIC DRAINAGE PATTERNS FOR OUR PROPERTY, UM, AFTER IT LEAVES OUR PROPERTY AND ENTERS INTO ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE MUD AND, AND THE DOWNSTREAM LANDOWNERS OF THAT MUD.
AND FOR THIS, THE SAKE OF ASKING, UM, I, I FEEL LIKE I MUST ASK, IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A MEETING, UM, WITH EVERYBODY TO DISCUSS THIS? UM, WHEREAS I WOULD BE PRESENT AND, AND, AND I WOULD BE THINKING MAYBE BY FRIDAY, CERTAINLY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE CAN BE AVAILABLE.
UM, WE HAVE MET WITH, UH, MR. COLEMAN IN THE CITY, UM, HERE.
UM, AND AT THAT POINT, WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW WE FIT INTO THE PUZZLE PIECES.
I THINK WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING NOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE'RE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE DISCHARGING INTO.
UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE WATER GETS DIVERTED ONCE IT'S ONTO THE LASALLE MUD PROPERTY,
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WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A SEAT AT THAT TABLE FOR THE DISCUSSION.OKAY? FOR ME, IT'S JUST FOR EVERYBODY TO BE HEARD MM-HMM.
AND SO IF, AND IF YOU GUYS WERE AMENDABLE TO THAT, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, JUST HAVE A GET TOGETHER AND, AND HAVE EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS HEARD, AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN COME, AND I KNOW I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THIS MAYBE A MILLION TIMES, UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE FAITH, THEN MAYBE I CAN BE OF SOME ASSISTANCE, UM, TO KIND OF MOVE THIS ALONG AND GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.
I WOULD LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, BUT I'M GONNA BE HONEST, THAT WOULD REQUIRE ME TO NOT TAKE A VOTE TODAY.
BUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING COULD HAPPEN, JUST SO WE CAN DISCUSS AND VOTE ON THIS AFTER THAT MEETING.
I, I WANNA WORK WITH YOU GUYS AS MUCH AS I WANNA WORK WITH MY LANDOWNER, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO ANSWER TO, BUT MY GOAL IS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD ALL IN AGREEANCE AND THERE'S NO ANIMOSITY OR FRUSTRATION, CUZ YOU, IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD THERE, YOU, WE GOTTA GET ALONG.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I'M SORRY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 19 THROUGH 22.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? MAYOR PRO TIM? YEAH, SO THIS IS JUST, UH, PROVING THE, UH, THIS IS JUST TO CODIFY WHAT WE'VE GOT IN PLACE WITH THE, UH, AGREEMENT FOR THE TES, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE SET UP CORRECT.
JERRY, SORRY, THIS IS JUST TO CODIFY THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR TURS.
SO WE STILL HAVEN'T EVEN GONE INTO DESIGN.
SO WHEN, WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, MAKING SURE WE GO TO THE DESIGN PART OF IT, THAT WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. COLEMAN, WHO'S THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER WITH, UH, ALL THE GROUPS INVOLVED WITH CITY STAFF.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MR. COLEMAN, UH, HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH OUR STAFF, KHAW AND KATHY RUCKER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
SO THAT WAY THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT AS A CITY.
HE'S GETTING THE INFORMATION HE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT PUMPING MORE WATER ON HIM.
AND, AND REST ASSURED THAT THERE IS A STATE STATUE THAT SAYS YOU CANNOT ADD MORE WATER ONTO SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.
IT'S ILLEGAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO LET'S JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AND LET'S MAKE SURE AS A CITY THAT WE ADHERE TO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING MORE WATER FLOW JUST ONE'S PROPERTY AND WE'RE NOT CAUSING US SOME A POSSIBLE LIABILITY.
BUT THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO OUR ENGINEERING STAFF.
THAT'S GONNA BE UP TO EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER.
AND, UH, MOVING FORWARD, LET'S MAKE SURE WHEN WE GET TO THE DESIGN SP STAGE, WE'RE NOT DESIGNING TO FLOOD SOMEBODY OUT.
CAUSE I'VE, I'VE BEEN A PART OF BEING FLOODED OUT.
MY PROPERTY GETS FLOODED OUT CUZ OF A BAD DESIGN, AND THAT'S THE LAST THING I WANNA SEE HAPPEN.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AND WE GET THIS RIGHT.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? AGREE WITH THOSE STATEMENTS? WELL, A FAVOR SAY AYE.
[23. First Amendment to the Regional Stormwater Facilities Cost Sharing Agreement by and among City of Kyle, Texas, North Hays County Municipal Utility District No. 2, Plum Creek Development Partners, Ltd, and Mountain Plum LTD, and Lennar of Texas Land and Construction, Ltd. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]
FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE REGIONAL STORMWATER FACILITIES COST SHARING AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, NORTH HAYS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, PLUM CREEK DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, L T D AND MOUNTAIN PLUM LT D UH, AND LENAR OF TEXAS LAND AND CONSTRUCTION, L T D.UH, PAGE, DO YOU WANT ME TO OPEN UP THE THE OTHER YES, PLEASE.
[24. Amended and Restated First Amendment to the Consent Agreement by and among the City of Kyle, Texas, North Hays County Municipal Utility District No. 2, Plum Creek Development Partners, Ltd, and Mountain Plum LTD. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]
AND RESTATED.FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONSENT AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, NORTH HAYES COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, PLUM CREEK DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS, LTD AND MOUNTAIN PLUM LTD.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 IN ORDINANCE OF
[25. (First Reading) An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, Ratifying, Confirming, and Approving the Granting of Consent to the Creation of the North Hays County Municipal Utility District No. 2 and the Inclusion of Land Therein. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney]
THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, RATIFYING CONFIRMING AND APPROVING, UH, THE GRANTING OF CONSENT TO THE CREATION OF THE NORTH HAYES COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, AND THE INCLUSION OF LAND THEREIN.MISS HUNTS MAYOR COUNCIL PAGE SIGNS FOR THE RECORD, THE THREE ITEMS THAT YOU READ ARE, UH, RELATED TO TWO, TWO, UH, DOCUMENTS THE CITY'S PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
ONE IS A CONSENT AGREEMENT WITH THE NORTH HAYES COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, THE CITY CONSENTED TO THE CREATION OF THAT MUD IN 2017.
AND, UM, HAD ATTACHED THAT DOCUMENT IN ORDINANCE THAT CONFIRMED THE, UH, CONSENT OF THAT, UH, MUD.
AS THE MUD IS PROGRESSING TO ISSUE BONDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE, UM, MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.
UH, THE ATTORNEY IS REVIEWING THE RECORDS AND SEEING SOME ITEMS THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF CLEANUP TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGISLATION AND TO CHECK THE BOXES THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS GONNA LOOK AT WHEN IT APPROVES THOSE BONDS.
ONE OF THOSE BEING THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WISHES TO SEE A SEPARATE ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE CREATING THE MUD, UH, AND NOT JUST AN APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT.
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ATTORNEY HAS REQUESTED THE COUNSEL FORMALLY APPROVE AN ORDINANCE RATIFYING CONFIRMING AND APPROVING THE CREATION OF THE MUD, WHICH YOU'VE ESSENTIALLY DONE IN 2017 THROUGH APPROVING THE AGREEMENT.THE SECOND IS TO APPROVE AN AMENDED AND RESTATED FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONSENT AGREEMENT.
UH, THE CITY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, A FIRST AMENDMENT.
THIS DOCUMENT JUST CLARIFIES THAT, UH, WHILE THE MUD HAS, UH, THE REQUIREMENT OF HAVING A 20 CENT PROPERTY TAX WITHIN THE MUD BOUNDARIES, UH, THAT THE MUD IS NOT, UH, LIMITED FROM ISSUING OR LEVING ATTACKS THAT WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH ITS, UH, ENABLING LEGISLATION.
AND SO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WOULD, THEY'D HAVE TROUBLE GETTING BOND APPROVAL WITHOUT THAT AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT.
WITH RESPECT TO THE FIRST ITEM 23, THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE STORMWATER FACILITIES COST SHARING AGREEMENT, IF YOU RECALL, THE CITY IS A PARTY TO AN AGREEMENT IN WHICH THE NORTH HAYS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, PLUM CREEK DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS AND MOUNTAIN PLUM AND LENAR ALL HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO COST SHARE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF A REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITY TO BE USED BY THOSE ENTITIES.
AND THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE CONVEYED TO THE CITY, UH, FOR THE USE FOR DETENTION AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.
THE AGREEMENTS, THE AGREEMENT, THE AGREEMENT IS BEING AMENDED, UH, TO RECOGNIZE SOME CHANGES IN THE WAY THAT THOSE PARTIES ARE COST PARTICIPATING IN THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF THAT REGIONAL DETENTION POND.
THE CITY IS NOT PAYING ANY, ANY FUNDS TOWARDS THAT.
THE CITY'S NOT A PARTY TO ANY PAYMENTS, BUT SINCE THE CITY'S A PARTY TO THE AGREEMENT, THE CITY NEEDS TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.
THE ONE AMENDMENT AFFECTING THE CITY IS THAT, UH, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A, UH, MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT THAT'S PREPARED BEFORE THE CITY ACCEPTS CONVEYANCE OF THAT POND, AND THAT AGREEMENT WILL BE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE POA.
RIGHT NOW IT SAYS THAT THE AGREEMENT WILL BE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PARTIES.
THE POA IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THE, UM, UH, ASPECTS OF THE REGIONAL UTILITY, UH, THE REGIONAL DETENTION FACILITY.
AND SO THAT WAS JUST A, A DISCREPANCY IN THE DOCUMENT ITSELF.
SO THOSE ARE THE PURPOSES OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SANDS, AND I THINK WE ALSO HAVE THE ATTORNEY MAYBE AVAILABLE FOR THE MUD, MAY BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS. IS IT 23 THROUGH 25? 23 THROUGH 25.
SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER FLORES KALE.
SECOND BY CUSTOMER, TOBIAS, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALLS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[26.
[Postponed 10/3/2022] Approve a development agreement between the City of Kyle and Plum Creek Developers, LLC (Joe Brooks). ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
This item will be postponed until the regularly scheduled council meeting on 11/15/2022.
]ITEM WAS POSTPONED AT THE LAST MEETING.UH, THIS ITEM WILL BE REQUESTED TO BE POSTPONED AGAIN TONIGHT.
APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND PLUM CREEK DEVELOPERS, LLC.
UM, UH, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE AND STORM WATER, UM, UH, RELATED TO THIS ITEM AS WELL.
UH, THERE'S A, UH, UH, STUDY THAT'S BEING, UH, PROPOSED TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COUNCIL, UH, OR TO STAFF OR STAFF TO REVIEW, TO GET STAFF TO SUPPORT, UH, THE LETTERS OF MAP REVISION.
AND SO TO GIVE THEM AMPLE TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM.
SECOND UNTIL, UH, NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022.
MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY CUSTOMER TOBIS.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL A FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL POST MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
NEXT UP IS, UH, SIMILAR ITEM POSTPONED ON
[27.
[Postponed 10/3/2022] (First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 18.84 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services) to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development) for property located approximately 400’ southwest of the intersection of Marketplace Ave & City Lights Dr. in Hays County, Texas. (Joe Brooks - Z-22-0099) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 3-2 to recommend approval of the request.
City Council voted 6-0 to postpone first reading on 9/6/2022.
- Public Hearing
The public hearing was left open at the 10/3/2022 Council meeting.
This item will be postponed until the regularly scheduled council meeting on 11/15/2022. The public hearing will be opened at this 10/18/2022 Council meeting.
]THE THIRD, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING.APPROXIMATELY 18.84 ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES TO P U D, UH, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF MARKETPLACE AND CITY LIGHTS DRIVE IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
THIS HAS AN ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? UH, SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL NOVEMBER 15TH.
MOTION BY THE MAYOR SECOND ABOUT COUNCIL FLORES KEER.
DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALLS A FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL POST MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[28.
[Postponed 10/3/2022] (First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 9.12 acres of land to ‘PUD MXD’ for property located at the NW corner of N. Burleson & Marketplace Avenue, in Hays County, Texas. (Julia Parker Family Partnership and the L.W. Parker Family Trust - Z-22-0104) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 3-1 to recommend approval of the request.
- Public Hearing
The public hearing was left open at the 10/3/2022 Council meeting.
]FIRST READING IN ORDINANCE ADMIT CHAPTER 53, THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING, APPROXIMATELY THE 9.12 ACRES OF LAND TO P U D M X D FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH BURLESON AND MARKETPLACE AVENUE IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. ATKINSON WILL ATKINSON, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? YES.
LET ME, UH, THROW THIS STUFF UP ON THE SCREEN REAL QUICK
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BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE A, UH, A PU ZONING REQUEST FOR THE MXD ZONING DISTRICT FOR JUST OVER NINE ACRES OF LAND, UM, AT THE ROUNDABOUT AT NORTH BURLESON AND MARKETPLACE.UM, THE REASON THAT, UH, WE COORDINATED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO, TO ENTER INTO A PUD IS BECAUSE, UM, SOMETIMES FLEXIBILITY WORKS OUT TO THE ADVANTAGE OF ALL PARTIES INVOLVED WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO IN THIS CASE, UH, WE WANTED TO DO MXD BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE SOME ASPECTS OF THAT ZONING DISTRICT THAT DON'T FUNCTION AS WELL.
AND WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE THE PROJECT BETTER THAN WHAT THE CODE ALREADY REQUIRES.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED RETAIL SERVICES.
UH, THE COMP PLAN, UH, RECOMMENDS THE VERTICAL MISUSER, THE MXD DISTRICT IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY AS WELL.
AND RIGHT HERE UP ON THE SCREEN, I HAVE, UH, THE, THE PROPOSED POD ZONING.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOME, SOME HIGH POINTS.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE APPROXIMATELY 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLEX LOFT AREA, UH, FOR OFFICE USE.
UH, AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE GONNA BE APPROXIMATELY 31, UM, UNITS FOR BUILDABLE ACRE, APPROXIMATELY 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF LEASING OFFICE AND AMENITY APPROXIMATELY 9,500 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR RETAIL.
THEY ARE PROHIBITING SPECIFIC USES, UM, IN THERE THAT WE GENERALLY DON'T WANNA SEE.
WE WANNA SEE MORE RETAIL FOOT TRAFFIC GENERATING USES ON THE GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL.
UH, IT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE UHOR PORTIONS OF THE VIBE TRAIL SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN A VIBE NODE.
THEY ARE VERY CLOSE AND ADJACENT TO IT, AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT, UH, BEING INTEGRATED INTO THIS AS WELL.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A HAWK SIGNAL, UH, ON CLOSER TO THE NORTHERN END OF THEIR PROJECT AT A PLACE WHERE, WHICH WILL BE DETERMINED AT THE TIME OF SITE DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO MAKE SURE WHERE PEOPLE CUTTING BACK ACROSS OVER TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE GONNA BE SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS IN THE VIBE TRAIL SYSTEM.
UH, THEY'RE PRETTY, UM, IT WAS REQUESTED THAT THEY PROTECT ALSO THE, UM, THERE'S FOUR SPECIMEN TREES ON SITE THAT ARE IN GOOD, UH, HEALTH, UH, PER THE, AS THEY STARTED GOING THROUGH THEIR CONTRACT PLANS A LITTLE BIT, THEY WERE ABLE TO, UM, UH, PRESERVE THREE OF THOSE.
AND THE SPECIMEN TREES ARE OUR LARGEST TREES THAT WE REQUIRE PROTECTION ON, AND SO THEY WILL NEED TO BE REQUIRED TO REMOVE THE ONE OF THEM JUST TO, FOR ADEQUATE ACCESS FROM A FIRE CODE PERSPECTIVE.
UM, BUT THAT'LL BE A HANDLED, UM, FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
ULTIMATELY, THEY'RE ALSO GONNA PUT ROD IRON FENCING ADJACENT TO THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TREES THERE FOR SOUND BUFFERING AS WELL.
UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, A HANDFUL OF, UH, PUBLIC SPACES AS WELL, INCLUDING A PARK ADJACENT TO THE ROUNDABOUT THAT'LL BE DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY FOR, UM, PROTECTION AGAINST THE VEHICLES NEXT TO IT, BUT ALSO HAVE AN AWESOME AMENITY THAT'S A RAILROAD FOCUSED.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER AMENITY, EXCUSE ME, I'M TRYING NOT TO SNEEZE.
UM, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH ALONG THE MARKETPLACE AS WELL.
AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO IN THEIR RETENTION POND AREA.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE, UM, I'M GONNA, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, I DOCK LOOKING OVER KIND OF THE FISHING PIER WHERE YOU CAN ALSO WATCH THE TRAINS GO BY AS WELL.
SO VARIANCES, AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT, UM, THEY DID PUT IN DO A TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, TO ACCOUNT FOR, UH, THE INCREASE, UM, AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE PROJECT, ALTHOUGH IT'S GONNA BE LESS ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WOULD BE WITH THE RETAIL THAT'S ALREADY ALLOWED TO BE THERE.
UM, THEY MAY FURTHER REFINE HOW THE PARKING IS GOING TO, UH, GOING TO COME TOGETHER.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD PLAN FROM ONE SPACE PER BEDROOM.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER VARIANCES THAT ARE BUILT INTO OUR CURRENT MXD CODE THAT JUST, IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT FOR PROJECTS TO COME FORWARD.
AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS, THIS SYNERGY FOR PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN IN CENTRAL CORE AREAS OF THE CITY, THAT THESE ARE ONES THAT WE ARE SEEING QUITE FREQUENTLY.
SO, AND LET ME JUST THROW UP THE, UH, SOME OF THE EXHIBITS UP ON THE SCREEN.
THIS IS THE EXHIBIT WHERE THEY'RE PRESERVING THE THREE OUT OF THE FOUR TREES.
THIS IS, UH, CLOSE TO THE ROUNDABOUT.
WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED THE PARKING STUDY FOR REFERENCE MATERIAL IN THE PUD AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE THAT AT, WE'LL HAVE THAT AS A DOCUMENT.
AND THEN HERE'S A CONCEPT PLAN SHOWING THE, THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THE BREAKDOWN.
AND THEN I ALSO INCLUDED SOME OF THEIR MATERIAL THAT THEY, THEY SENT US SO WE COULD HAVE A, A NICE, UH, ANGLED VIEW OF THE PROPERTY SO YOU CAN GET A MUCH BETTER FEEL OF HOW IT'S GOING TO INTERACT WITH MARKETPLACE AVENUE AND BURS STREET WITH SOME EXAMPLES OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UH, WE THREW IN A BLOWN UP PICTURE OF WHERE THE EVERYTHING IN BLUE IS THE PORTION OF THE VIBE SHOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD AND ALSO BLOWING
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UP PICTURE OF THE, UH, THE PUBLIC SPACE NEAR THE ROUNDABOUT.AND THIS WILL HAVE, UM, THIS IS A CONCEPT PLAN.
IT WILL BE FURTHER REFINED, ASSUMING THE, THE ZONING GOES THROUGH WITH, UH, WITH CERTAINLY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE FOR THE ADJACENT VEHICLES.
THEY ARE GONNA HAVE TREES THERE.
UM, WE WILL WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS APPROPRIATE FENCING AND WHAT HAVE YOU THERE TOO.
UM, BUT WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY FANTASTIC PROJECT.
AND, UM, I DO BELIEVE, UM, THE, UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE AT THE MEETING AND THEY, I BELIEVE THEY ALSO HAVE A, UH, A, UM, PRESENTATION THEY WANT TO, UM, PRESENT TO Y'ALL AS WELL.
UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT, THE PUBLIC HEARING'S NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IF YOU'RE THE APPLICANT, WE'LL, HANG TIGHT.
SO, RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
HI, I'M AMANDA SWAR WITH DRER GROUP.
UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE THIS EVENING.
I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN SAID, BUT Y'ALL LOOK AWESOME.
I WALKED IN, I WAS LIKE, WE'RE DRESSING BUSINESS IN OF IT NOW.
OH, I FORGOT I WAS EVEN WORN ACROSS YOU.
I KNOW
YOU DID A GREAT JOB WHEN YOU COORDINATE REALLY WELL, LIKE, DOES HE DRESS THAT WAY?
THAT'S WHAT IT'S, UH, I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION GIVEN THE HOUR.
UM, I THINK WILL COVERED A LOT OF IT.
I DO JUST HAVE AN IMAGE I'D LOVE TO THROW ON THE SCREEN THAT I JUST GOT TODAY.
UM, THAT KIND OF SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF THE STORY BOARDING THAT THE PROJECT HAS DONE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT IMAGE I EMAILED OVER, UM, JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO COULD GO UP.
UM, I JUST WOULD ALSO LOVE TO COMPLIMENT YOUR STAFF.
WE STARTED WORKING WITH THEM VERY EARLY IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, AND WE CAME IN WITH WHAT WAS PRIMARILY A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT, AND THEY ADVOCATED REALLY HARD FOR WHAT THE VISION WAS, UM, THAT THEY HAD HEARD FROM Y'ALL, AND THEY REALLY PUSHED US.
AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED AND PROUD OF THE PROJECT THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.
UM, I DO HAVE, UM, THE DEVELOPERS HERE WITH US THIS EVENING, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE ART LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND THE ENGINEER.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS, UH, WE'VE GOT ANSWERS, BUT I REALLY JUST WANTED TO, UM, THROW THIS UP THERE.
WILL DID A GREAT JOB OF KIND OF TALKING THROUGH THE FINE POINTS OF THE POD, BUT I REALLY JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT HAVE COME INTO PLAY AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE, WE'VE RECEIVED.
SO LET'S SEE HOW DESCRIPTIVE I CAN BE, UM, WITHOUT A POINTER.
SO IF WE START ON THIS, THE CRAZIEST THING ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS NORTH IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE.
SO FOR EVERY TIME, SO I'M GONNA TALK KIND OF PLAN NORTH, UM, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST, JUST FOR EAST.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, THE, THE PINK IS REALLY, UM, WHERE THE UP RAIL LINE IS, AND THE SOUTH OF THE PAGE IS MARKETPLACE, RIGHT? WE REALLY STARTED THIS PROJECT REALIZING THAT THERE'S NOT A BACK OF HOUSE, RIGHT? YOU HAVE EVERYTHING ALONG MARKETPLACE THAT YOU REALLY WANNA BE, UM, FORWARD FACING TO EVERYTHING ALONG BURLESON, BUT THEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTS BEHIND YOU, UM, IN THE VIBE TRAIL TO THE NORTH SLASH RIGHT OF THE PAGE.
UM, AND SO THE PROJECT WAS REALLY DESIGNED WITH THAT IN MIND.
AND SO WHEN, UM, KIND OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT THE ZONING IS TODAY AND WHAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WITH THE M XC, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RAIL LINE TO THE FRONT, WE REALLY LOOKED AT, AND THAT WAS A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION AT PLANNING COMMISSION, IS HOW ARE WE BUFFERING THAT? WHAT ARE WE DOING? UM, WITH JUST THE EXISTING ZONING, YOU WOULD TEND TO HAVE A SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WITH THE TRAIN REVERBERATE NOISE BACK, UM, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO WE WERE REALLY COGNIZANT ABOUT WHAT THAT FENCING LOOKED LIKE, AND, UM, DID RECEIVE SOME DIRECTION FOR ROD IRON FENCING, WHICH HAS BEEN INCLUDED.
AND THEN THAT LANDSCAPING AREA HAS BEEN DOUBLED.
SO THE BUFFERING WILL BE DONE, UM, FROM A VEGETATIVE PERSPECTIVE VERSUS JUST A, A SOUND BARRIER PERSPECTIVE.
IF YOU GO TO THE RIGHT OF THIS OR OF THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT'S AGAIN WHERE THE VIBE TRAIL COMES IN.
AND SO WE REALLY ARE VERY EXCITED TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PROJECT.
THE LOFT FLEX UNITS ARE ON THAT NORTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT, SO REALLY INTERACTING WITH, UM, WITH THE TRAIL AND THAT CONTINUES ALONG THE EAST SIDE OR THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
UM, IN THAT YELLOW AREA IS WHERE WE ANTICIPATE THAT HAWK BEACON GOING.
UH, THAT STAFF MENTIONED THAT, UH, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, SO ANYONE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
LIKE IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET, IT'S WHERE YOU PUSH THE BUTTON AND THEN YOU WAIT FOR A MINUTE AND IT GIVES YOU THE HAND AND IT FLASHES.
SO IT'S TRULY A SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, NOT JUST A, NOT JUST MARKINGS ON THE GROUND.
IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, IT'S A TRAFFIC DIRECTING CROSSING FOR PEDESTRIANS.
UM, AND THEN I WANNA FOCUS ALSO JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE GREEN AREA, WHICH IS AT THE ROUNDABOUT.
THAT IS WHERE THE, UM, THE PARK AMENITY THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AND, UM, AND APPRECIATED THAT DIRECTION.
THIS WILL BE A TRAIN THEMED PARK AS THE MAJORITY OF THIS PROJECT, AS WE ANTICIPATE THERE BEING A BO LIKE A TRUE LIVE BOX
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CAR THERE, UM, THAT HAS DOORS THAT OPEN AND FUNCTION AS PART OF THE PROJECT.I HAVE ONE KID THAT ONLY WANTS TO LIKE CLIMB ON THE PLAYGROUND AND SWING ON ANY SWING THAT YOU CAN FIND.
AND I HAVE ONE KID THAT ONLY WANTS TO FIND A BALL AND ANYBODY THAT WILL THROW, UM, SOMETHING.
AND SO THIS PROJECT WILL INCLUDE BOTH OF THOSE.
SO IT'LL INCLUDE BOTH OPEN AREA, UM, FREE PLAY SPACE FOR KIDS AND PROGRAM SPACE, UH, FOR THOSE THAT DESIRE IT.
UH, WE ALSO WORKED REALLY HARD WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE BUILDINGS HAD A RETAIL COMPONENT IN IT.
SO AGAIN, ALMOST 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL SPACE, UH, WITHIN THE PROJECT.
THAT'S, UH, IN, THERE'S ALSO THE FLEX SPACE.
SO, UH, BOTH OF THOSE ARE INCLUDED AND THERE'S RETAIL IN ALL THREE OF THE BUILDINGS, SO THAT AS A PEDESTRIAN WALKS ALONG THAT MARKETPLACE, THEY ARE, UM, THERE'S INTERACTIVE SPACE ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT.
THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY SALES PITCH.
IF I MISSED ANYTHING, THE TEAM CAN KICK ME, BUT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COUNCIL MEMBER? PARSLEY.
SO YOU ALREADY ANSWER, UH, THE AREA FOR COMMERCIAL.
UM, HAVE YOU LOGGED INTO ANY SPECIFIC BUSINESSES THAT YOU WANNA PUT IN THERE? SO WE'VE REALLY, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO KEEP A LOT OF THAT OPEN.
THE ONE PIECE THAT WE KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT AROUND THE RESTAURANT, THAT AREA WILL BE THE, AROUND THE PARK.
THAT AREA WILL BE DESIGNED AS A RESTAURANT USE.
SO IT WILL BE DESIGNED OUT WITH GREASE TRAPS AND ALL OF THE COMPONENTS THAT, UM, ALLOW AN ACTUAL FOOD SERVICE BUSINESS TO GO IN THERE.
THE OTHER, UM, AND JOSH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA CHIME IN DIFFERENTLY, BUT THE OTHER, UM, RETAIL COMPONENTS WILL BE BUILT OUT, UH, WITH THE ABILITY TO ADAPT TO, UH, ANY USE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME IN AND UTILIZE THEM.
AND SO ALL OF THE RETAIL IS GOING TO BE IN THAT SECTION ON THE GREEN AREA, THE FRONT PORCH GATEWAY AREA, OR THERE'S, THERE'S ACTUALLY A RETAIL IN ALL THREE, IN ALL THREE BUILDINGS.
SO LET'S SEE IF I CAN USE MY DESCRIPTIVE WORDS REALLY WELL SINCE I CAN'T POINT.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH PIECE OF THE GREEN, SO ON THE RIGHT OF THAT, THAT'S WHERE THE RESTAURANT IS ENVISIONED TO BE.
UM, WHEN YOU GO TO THE LONGER BACKWARDS L BUILDING, UM, THERE'S RETAIL ON BOTH ENDS OF THAT.
SO KIND OF ACROSS THE ENTRANCE FROM THE RESTAURANT AND THEN AT THE OTHER END, UM, BY THE ENTRANCE TO THE FURTHER NORTH END, AND THEN ALSO ACROSS FROM THAT.
SO FOR RETAIL TO SURVIVE, IT NEEDS PARKING.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THE RETAIL WAS VERY SPECIFICALLY, UH, IN DELIBERATELY PLACED WITHIN THE PROJECT.
SO RATHER THAN JUST PUTTING A LONG LINE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE STREET, THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
SO WE PUR PLACED IT PURPOSEFULLY WHERE SOMEONE COULD COME IN, SEE IT, PARK, UTILIZE IT, AND THEN CONTINUE IN WHICHEVER DIRECTION THEY WANTED TO GO.
SO IT'S IN ALL THREE BUILDINGS.
CUZ IT'S SAID HERE, PUBLIC PRIVATE AREA.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF PUBLIC WAS GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THREE BUILDINGS.
ALL THREE BUILDINGS WILL HAVE A RETAIL AREA THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, THE ELEVATION, I WAS NOT A HUGE FAN OF IT.
UH, OTHER QUESTIONS, CUSTOMER TOBIS? YES.
UM, THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE TRAIN TEAM PROGRAM.
AS YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET WE HAVE A DEPOT THAT WAS JUST, UH, MADE A HISTORICAL MARKER.
SO IT'S, I'M GLAD THAT YOU CONSIDERED MAKING THE SCAPE, UH, SOMETHING ESSENTIAL THAT THAT'S, THAT'S OF KYLE ON THAT END.
WE HAD, WE DISCUSSED THE TREES BY THE TRIP, BY THE PLAYGROUND, SO FORTH.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE FOR YOU, WILL, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING VOTED THREE TO ONE ON THE RECOMMENDATION? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT ONE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A GOOD CONCEPT, BUT, UH, I KNOW THAT MAYBE ONE MAY HAVE SOME, SOME FEEDBACK.
THAT'S USUALLY WHAT I LOOK AT.
OR MAYBE NOT IF IT'S A FIT FOR THAT AREA, I CAN ANSWER THAT IF, WELL, ONCE WE DO OR I CAN PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT.
SO THE GENERAL QUESTIONS, UM, WERE RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION, THE, UM, THE TRAFFIC THAT WAS THERE AND THEN REALLY THAT BUFFER IN BETWEEN.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT ENHANCED BUFFERING CAME FROM.
WE WORKED WITH STAFF AFTER PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, THERE WAS CONCERN ON HOW THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, TO THE, ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WHICH WOULD BE TO THE WEST, WOULD INTERACT WITH THIS SITE AND HOW, UM, NOISE WOULD, WOULD PLAY.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN THERE WAS KIND OF SOME TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF FENCING, BUT WE, WE SETTLED THE RECORD THAT THE FENCING WOULD JUST REVERBERATE.
AND SO AFTER THAT, THAT'S WHEN WE DOUBLED THE LANDSCAPING BUFFER IN THERE TO PROVIDE OKAY.
THE, THE GENERAL OR THE NATIVE MM-HMM.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WE ADDRESSED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, BUT IT WAS KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRIPS PER DAY BETWEEN A USE THAT COMPLIED WITH THE EXISTING ZONING AND THIS PROPOSED USE.
AND, UM, THE NUMBERS ARE IN THE, IN THE BACKUP THAT WE
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SENT TO THE, UH, TO STAFF.BUT IT REDUCES OUR NUMBERS REDUCED BY ABOUT HALF THE VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY.
WE USED VERY CONSERVATIVE NUMBERS.
IF YOU USED A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT RETAIL CENTER OR UP A THOUSAND, A HUNDRED THOUSAND MM-HMM.
BUT THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER ON WHAT WOULD FIT THERE.
IT HAD, IT WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 4,954 TRIPS PER DAY.
UM, AND OUR, OUR PROJECT AS PROPOSED WOULD GENERATE, UM, HALF OF THAT.
UH, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE HAWK LIGHT.
I'VE NEVER, I'VE KEN SEEN ONE, BUT WHEN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY AND I, WHEN WE WERE AT TML, WE WERE AT THE EXHIBIT THERE AND THEY WERE SHOWING SOME OF THE NEW STATE-OF-THE ART CROSSING SIGNALS THAT ARE JUST LIKE TOTALLY AWESOME.
LIKE, YOU PRESS THE BUTTON AND THE WHOLE THING LIGHTS UP, REMEMBER THE WHOLE SIGN AND IT LIKE, GILLEY GAVE A TRACK OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, YELLOW AND THEN RED AND FLASHING TO WHERE IT REALLY GAVE, UH, PEOPLE A SENSE.
CUZ MARKETPLACE AVENUE IS A VERY BUSY YES SIR, UH, PLACE.
I THINK IT'S AT A 45 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
SO, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD, WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CUSTOMER FIRST CARE.
SO I MET WITH THE DEVELOPER WITH KATHY RUCKER CUZ I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT FLOOD ISSUES AND UM, TO MY RELIEF, THERE ARE NONE THERE.
THERE'S A PART ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND THAT'S GONNA BE VIBE AND THERE'S, THERE IS FLOODING IN THAT AREA RIGHT THERE, THERE, SO THERE IS A CREEK TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, BUT OUR PROJECT IS NOT WITHIN ANY OF THE FLOOD PLAIN.
UM, SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS THE FRONT ENTRANCE AND I WAS, I WAS, IT'S AWFULLY CLOSE TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND I HAD ASKED FOR THEM TO KIND OF MOVE THAT BACK AND HE, HE SEEMED A MINIMAL TO THAT.
WE ARE, UM, WILLING TO, SO THE CONCERN THAT WE HAD HEARD IS THAT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY, THE ACCESS POINT IN ITS DURATION TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND WE ARE, I'LL SAY THAT ON THE RECORD FOR SURE.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH STAFF TO MOVE IT AS FAR NORTH AS WE CAN.
UM, AND THEN I SEE THAT YOU'RE GETTING A VARIANCE FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY, IS THAT CORRECT? DID I READ THAT WILLIAM? WELL, SORRY.
SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND, AND DID ONE ANYWAY.
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S BUILT INTO THE POD.
THE DOCTOR, COULD YOU SEND THAT TO US? UH, WE SENT IT TO THE CITY, YES.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I PART OF, I'M SORRY, WHAT? WHEN YOU HEAR YOU, WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY IT, IT'S PART OF THE PUT DOCUMENT IN THE, THE EXHIBIT OF THE ORDINANCE, THIS TRAFFIC STUDY.
OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T LOOK THAT FAR CAUSE I MET WITH HIM AND I REALLY, REALLY LIKE, UM, I LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THAT WAS, THAT'S GONNA, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HAPPY IT'S GONNA MAKE A LOT OF THE, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE DOWNTOWN.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I BROUGHT TO HIM, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S WILLING TO DO, WE JUST BRIEFLY DISCUSSED, IS STICKING MAYBE CARGOES ALONG THE RAIL TO GIVE IT A, A DIFFERENT LOOK INTO BUFFER EVEN MORE.
AND THEN MAYBE PUTTING SOME KIND OF ACTIVITIES OVER THERE SO FAMILIES CAN COME AND GATHER.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE THAT, THAT PLACES AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
SO IT WAS JUST AN IDEA THAT I, THAT I PUT OUT THERE.
SO THERE'S LIKE CARGO AT THE OPEN AND CLOSE.
AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE LIKE THE WIRE AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE CARGO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, BUT THE, HE, HE WAS KIND SAYING THE SAME THING THAT I WAS THINKING AHEAD.
SO, UM, YOUR FIRST QUESTION WAS KINDA WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE CONVERSATION AT PLANNING COMMISSION? AND IT WAS KIND OF, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT SPACE IN BETWEEN? AND SOME OF THE DESIRE AND DIRECTION THAT PLANNING COMMISSION HAD MENTIONED WAS, HEY, MAYBE DON'T PUT ACTIVITIES IN THERE BECAUSE IT IS SUPER CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, WE ARE VERY OPEN TO KIND OF WORKING THROUGH ON THE, WHAT'S IN THE PINK UP HERE? IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, YES.
IT'S EXACTLY WHERE, BUT IF WE HAVE THE BUFFERS, YOU HAVE THE TREES AND THEN YOU HAVE MAYBE SOME, THE CARPET WE ARE ALL FOR AND OPEN TO IT.
WE JUST GOT SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK TO MAYBE NOT PUT ACTIVE USES IN THERE.
SO WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF.
UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL.
UM, WE DID HEAR SOME TREPIDATION FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT PUTTING ACTIVE USES IN THERE, UM, WHICH IS WHY AT THIS POINT IN TIME IT'S JUST ANTICIPATED TO BE LANDSCAPING.
BUT, UM, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO.
JUST DON'T PUT ANY SPEAKERS LIKE RIGHT NOW, LIKE, I DON'T THINK, BUT A GATHERING PLACE TRAIN HORNS.
THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE KIND NICE.
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YEAH, IF YOU WANNA LIKE EVEN BRING THAT BACK AND LET US LOOK AT THAT.UM, AND WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA.
[29. [Postponed 10/3/2022] Approve a Development Agreement between the City of Kyle and Arenaman Development Company, LLC (Julia Parker Family Partnership & the L. W. Parker Family Trust). ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning]
GONNA BRING UP AGENDA ITEM 29 AS WELL.IS THAT OKAY? THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
NINES APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
I STILL HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS FIRST ONE.
SORRY, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND.
SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YEAH, IT IS A GREAT PROJECT.
UM, IF IT WASN'T SO CLOSE TO THE PARKING LOT BACK THERE WHERE COUNCIL MARQUEL WAS TALKING ABOUT, I THINK MAYBE SOME, UH, RAILROAD CUTOFFS WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME AND SPRAY PAINT.
I MEAN, ART ON THE RAILROAD IS ALWAYS GREAT.
UH, MY DAUGHTER ALWAYS MENTIONS WHEN WE'RE WAITING FOR THE TRAIN HERE AND KYLE LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL ARTWORK ON THE TRAINS.
I WISH THERE WAS A PLACE WE COULD GO OUT AND DO THAT.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING NEAT, A AMENABLE, UH, SOMETHING REALLY NEAT FOR KYLE.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NEAR THE, UH, PARKING LOT AND WORRIED ABOUT THE OVERSPRAY FROM THE SPRAY CAMPS
BUT I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL WHEN YOU WERE TRYING TO SELL ART THROUGHOUT THE CITY, TRY TO NOT SELL ART, BUT YOU, YOU KNOW, BRING ART TO OUR RESIDENCE IS KIND OF CRAZY.
IT WOULD BE A GREAT, UH, IDEA.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS IS OVER AT THE PLAY AREA, MAKING SURE THAT WE DO HAVE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE PLAY AREA.
MAKING SURE WE HAVE SOME TREES OF A CAPABLE SIZE THAT'LL PROBABLY WITHSTAND, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE FENCE, BUT EVERY LITTLE BIT OF, UM, RIGHT.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN THAT AREA TO KEEP CARS FROM GOING OVER THERE.
AND THE ROUNDABOUT KIND SCARES ME.
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT BUFFER THERE THAT'S GONNA KEEP KIDS SAFE, THE FAMILY SAFE AS WELL.
UM, THE SECOND THING IS MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING FACING THE RAILROAD IS SOUNDPROOF.
MAKING SURE WE U WE DON'T, UH, SHORTCHANGE OURSELVES ON THE PROJECT.
MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT'S, UH, CAPABLE TO KEEP THE SOUND OUT.
THAT'S THE WINDOWS, THAT'S THE R RATINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS A SOUND BOARD OR EVEN THE TYPE OF MATERIAL WE USE TO WRAP THE BUILDING, MAKING SURE THAT WE MAKE IT SOUNDPROOF.
UH, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THAT SIDE FACING TRACK ARE AN INCONVENIENCE BY ALL THE NOISE, IS WHAT I DO.
AND THEN, UH, MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE BUILD A FOUNDATION THAT CAN SUSTAIN THE, UH, VIBRATION OF THE TRAIN AS WELL.
SO MAKING SURE THAT YOUR ENGINEERS DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT.
ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE ABSOLUTELY ITEMS THAT ARE UTMOST CONCERNED TO OUR PROJECT AS WELL.
UM, THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS IN THAT AREA IS, UM, OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE, BOTH FROM A, WE PLAN ON USING KIND OF EVERYTHING, RIGHT? UM, TREES GRADING, ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN TO KIND OF PROVIDE THAT SAFETY BUFFER BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE PLAY AREA.
AND THEN, UM, THE INTENT IS TO USE THE NEWEST TECHNOLOGY POSSIBLE TO DEFINITELY SOUNDPROOF, UH, THE, THE, I KEEP CALLING IT THE NORTH SIDE
YOU KNOW, THAT IS, IF IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR OUR RESIDENTS, IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THE CITY.
THE LAST THING ANYBODY WANTS IS SOMEONE TO MOVE IN AND WANNA MOVE OUT THREE WEEKS LATER OR THREE MONTHS LATER WHEN THEY'RE IN THERE AND THEY, AND THEY CAN'T HEAR THINGS.
UM, SO WE ARE DEFINITELY, UH, INTENDING TO MEET ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU DISCUSSED.
UH, I'M GONNA BRING UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29 AS WELL APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND A RENNE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, LLC, COUNCIL MEMBER FLOOR SCALE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28 AND 29 MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO RIZZO.
IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY, UM, WILL YOU GUYS BE ABLE TO, UM, PROVIDE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY? YES, MA'AM.
WE'VE TAKEN IN THE FEEDBACK AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR ARCHITECTS TO COME UP WITH SOME, UM, UPDATED DESIGNS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK.
WE, BECAUSE WE, WE ARE TRYING TO HOLD ANOTHER DEVELOPER TO HIRE STANDARDS ON THE SIGN RIGHT BY YOU GUYS.
SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO LOOK MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO DO YOU THINK FOR SECOND READING, POTENTIALLY Y'ALL CAN MEET WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY TO DISCUSS MORE IN DETAIL WHAT THOSE ELEVATIONS ARE? WE'D WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY.
IF YOU JUST LET US KNOW A TIME THAT WORKS, WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND WE WOULD, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE, HAVE, WHO'S SHANNON? UH, SHANNON.
BUT, UM, YEAH, SO I CAN PROVIDE SOME IDEAS.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, CUZ THIS IS GONNA, TO ME, THIS THE WHOLE AREA IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS KIND OF BRINGING DOWNTOWN INTO THE, THE ACTUAL CD AND I WOULD LIKE THE TRANSITION TO BE SMOOTH, UH, AND THE DESIGNS TO KIND OF MATCH.
WE HAVE OUR ARCHITECTS ON STANDBY KNOWING THAT, UM, WE'D PROBABLY GET SOME FEEDBACK.
AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, HEARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND THEN GETTING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU BEFORE SECOND READING.
SO IF THERE'S ANY RELIEF TO, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, I DO KNOW SHANNON WAS A PLANNING DIRECTOR.
IS THAT CORRECT? IN TWO DIFFERENT CITIES.
SO WHEN I LEARNED THAT IT, IT BROUGHT ME A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF TO KNOW THAT SHE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN,
UM, AND SO I APPRECIATED THAT INFORMATION AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE SHARE THAT.
SO, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I, I FORGOT TO MENTION EARLIER WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE PROJECT IS ROOF LINES.
UH, THE MIDDLE BUILDING JUST SEEMS LIKE A REALLY FLAT ROOF.
MAKING SURE WE GET SOME AESTHETICS, GET SOME DIFFERENT, UH, ROOF ELEVATIONS WOULD BE, UH, KEY FOR ME.
I JUST DON'T WANNA GO OUT THERE AND SEE
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A FLAT ROOF.IT, IT, IT JUST, IT'S KIND OF TOUGH TO SEE.
WITH THAT MS. PARSLEY, WOULD YOU MIND IF I, UH, ATTENDED WITH YOU IF POSSIBLE? YEAH, YOU, I DON'T MIND.
NO, WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY.
KIND OF GIVE INPUT OR JUST KIND OF HEAR WHAT SHE HAS INFORMATION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 7.17 acres of land from ‘A’ (Agriculture) to ‘CC’ (Community Commercial) for property located on Lot 2, Block A of the Findley Subdivision, in Hays County, Texas. (360 Old Stagecoach Retail, LLC - Z-22-0106) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-1 to recommend approval of the request.
- Public Hearing
UH, FIRST READING IN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING.
APPROXIMATELY 7.17 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON LOT TWO BLOCK A OF THE FINLAY SUBDIVISION IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, MR. ATKINSON.
ALL RIGHT, UH, WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD CLAIMING DIRECTOR, I JUST STOPPED SHARING, SO GIMME A SECOND.
SO, UM, THIS PETITION NUMBER Z 22 DASH 0 1 0 6 IS, UH, SERIES ON APPROXIMATELY 7.16 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAP RIGHT THERE, UM, AS I BLOW IT UP, IT'S THE AREA IN THE YELLOW OUTLINE, UH, TO THE NORTHEAST TO THE INTERSECTION.
THERE'S AN EXIST, THERE'S A GAS STATION AND CAR WASH BEING BUILT AND ZONED RETAIL SERVICES.
UH, TO THE NORTH THERE'S A BANK LOT FOR RETAIL SERVICES.
AND THEN TO THE NORTHWEST AND WEST ARE LOTS AND PROPERTIES ZONE FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTHEAST IS, UM, LOTS ZONE FOR RETAIL SERVICES AS WELL.
TO, TO KEEP IT RELATIVELY SHORT, AS I KNOW THIS IS, IS A BIT OF A LONG MEETING.
UM, WHEN THE APPLICANT CAME TO US AND ASKED TO REZONE A PROPERTY TO DO A COMMERCIAL PROJECT, UH, RELATED TO RETAIL, UH, THEY INITIALLY, UH, IF MEMORY SERVES, THEY WANTED TO DO RETAIL SERVICES JUST LIKE THE ADJACENT LOT RIGHT AT THE HEART INTERSECTION.
HOWEVER, STAFF BELIEVE IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE TO DO FULL ON, UH, RETAIL SERVICES, WHICH IS HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL POINT OF SALE SERVICE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A CAR WASH, YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF ITEMS THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE LONG ALONG A STATE HIGHWAY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE EVEN HALF BLOCK OFF OR IF YOU'RE OFF A SECONDARY ROAD ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UH, WE HAD PROPOSED A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH TAKES INTO ACCOUNT A VERY, VERY STRINGENT, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFERING AND FENCE BUFFERING AGAINST RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UH, 10 TO 15 FEET APPROXIMATELY WITH A LOT OF TREES AND SHRUBS.
UM, THEY CAN ON, THEY CANNOT HAVE ANY DRIVE-THROUGH RELATED, UH, BUSINESSES WITHIN 75 FEET OF ANYTHING RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND SO THEY, UM, THEY, AND THEY'RE LIMITED TO HEIGHTS AS WELL WITHIN SO MANY, WITH WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.
AND SO THE, ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT ARE, YOU COULD, YOU COULD CALL THEM, THEY HAVE A REALLY HEAVY EMPHASIS ON FORM BASED OWNING, WHICH MEANS IT HAS TO BE A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, WELL DESIGNED PROJECT FROM A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THAT'S ALREADY BUILT INTO THE CODE BY DEFAULT.
UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CURVE LINEAR PONDS.
UM, THIS SITE IS ALSO GONNA HAVE A, A CHANCE TO TIE INTO A, A VIBE TRAIL SPUR ADJACENT TO THE OLD STAGE COACH ROAD WITH THEIR BOND PROJECT, HOPEFULLY, BUT ALSO INTO THE, UH, SAGE HOLLOW NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH.
UM, THERE IS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THIS TO DEVELOP INTO A, A PROJECT THAT IS BOTH SOMETHING THAT'S SUCCESSFUL, THAT'LL BE, UH, WELL RECEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY FROM A, FROM A PATRONAGE STANDPOINT, AND ALSO TO PROTECT THE ADJACENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL, BOTH FUTURE HOMEOWNERS TO THE NORTH AND EXISTING ONES TO THE SOUTHWEST.
UH, AND STAFF HAS EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE AND WE ASK THAT YOU'LL VOTE TO APPROVE IT AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU.
THIS ITEM HAS THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PUBLIC HEARING'S NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE REMAINING WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? UH, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S NOW CLOSED.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, CUSTOMER BRADSHAW? MAYOR, BEFORE WE EVEN HAVE A QUESTION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
THERE'S A MOTION BY MAYOR PROTE, SECONDED BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, THAT WE POSTPONED THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING AND LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.
UH, RIGHT, I ALREADY POSTPONED IT.
THAT WAS GOING, I WAS JUST MOVING FORWARD.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING CUZ I HAD, I HAD ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW AND THEN YOU JUMPED IN.
SO I WANT TO GIVE HER HER CHANCE TO ASK HER A QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD.
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WELL, WHAT WAS THE NABO ON PNC? I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, OUR, YES MA'AM.I THINK IT WAS OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER, SARAH KIN.
SHE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT RELATING TO, UM, THE, THE DRIVE THROUGH USES THAT ARE ALLOWED.
THEY ARE LIMITED USES, UM, IN THE, IN THE ZONING DISTRICT AND CONCERNS RELATED.
AND SO WE, WE WORKED WHAT WE COULD TO ADDRESS THOSE WITHIN THE CODE RELATED TO HOW FAR AWAY THEY HAVE TO BE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THINGS.
UH, MAYOR PURIM, YOU WANNA STATE THE REASON FOR THAT? YEAH, THE REASON I WANNA POSTPONE THIS ITEM IS BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK AS A CITY.
UM, THE REASON WHY AS, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE TWO OF THREE IN THE LAST OF THE BACKUP ITEMS, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE HISTORY.
SO OLD STAGE COACH ROAD IS NOT JUST THE NAME, IT'S THE ORIGINAL ROUTE OF THE STAGE LINE.
UH, THE ROUTE AND THE HISTORIC AREAS LONG THIS WAY SHOULD BE PRESERVED.
THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT ACTUALLY CODIFIES WHAT WE'RE PRESERVING.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SEE CODIFIED BEFORE WE EVEN MOVE FORWARD IS MAKING SURE WE PRESERVE THAT ROADWAY.
THAT ROADWAY DOESN'T NEED TO BE RE DIVERTED.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROADWAY STAYS IN EXISTENCE BECAUSE IT IS PART OF OUR HISTORY AS A STAGECOACH LINE.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT WE HAVE A HISTORIC WELL THERE THAT WAS DUG IN THE LATE 18 HUNDREDS THAT, UH, IS CALLED THE STAGE COACH.
UM, WELL, WHERE A STAGE COACH JUST USED TO COME IN WATER AND UH, WE USED TO HAVE SOME OF THE SOLDIERS THAT CAME THROUGH THE AREA, WATER THEIR HORSES AS WELL.
THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY IN THAT AREA.
MAKING SURE THAT WE FIND A WAY TO PRESERVE THOSE TWO IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
I THINK FOR US AS, AS A CITY, BECAUSE IT'S OUR HISTORY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING CODIFIED THAT PRESERVES THAT.
NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT SAYS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY CODIFIES THAT IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMING FORWARD.
THE OTHER THING, THERE'S A COUPLE OF REALLY OLD OAK TREES ON THIS PROPERTY, MAKING SURE THAT WE PRESERVE THOSE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY OWED AND HISTORIC.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE UH, UH, FIND A WAY TO PROTECT THOSE, UH, VERY LARGE OAK TREES ON THAT PROPERTY.
I'VE WALKED THE PROPERTY AND, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF TREES WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
UM, I DO JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
DOES THIS REZONE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR WILL IT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? IT'S JUST A ZONING FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
SO, BUT IS, AS IT RELATES TO HISTORIC TREES, WE HAVE A LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE.
SO IF THEY ARE GONNA ATTEMPT TO REMOVE, THEY HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE JUST LIKE THAT.
AND WE TOOK UP, THERE'S ONE BIG TREE THAT IS GONNA HAVE TO BE REMOVED FOR THEIR SITE PLAN.
BUT AS WILL SAID, IT HAS TO GO BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
I'M NOT SURE, I WAS THINKING MORE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, COMMISSIONER HAD AN ISSUE WITH.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE COULD SOMEHOW, UM, NEGATE THAT BY A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
BUT IF, IF WE DON'T, THEN WE DON'T
BUT THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN IF I, IF I MAY WELL, COULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS CONCERNS.
JUST COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS A ZONING DESIGNED TO FEED THE TRAFFIC FROM THE COMMUNITY THERE.
SO IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO MAKE A BIG IMPACT IN TERMS OF INCREASE OF TRAFFIC THE WAY RETAIL WOULD.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ARE DESIGNED FOR.
SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THE TRAFFIC ARGUMENT IS, BUT I I I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE WELL SITUATION.
IS THAT, IS THERE AN ACTUAL, HIS HISTORIC WELL THAT AND YOUR GOAL WOULD BE TO SEE THAT IT WAS NOT CO COVERED UP OR ABANDONED? YEAH.
MAKE MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T, UH, COVER IT UP.
MAKE MAKING SURE WE DON'T BULLDOZE IT DOWN, MAKING SURE WE FIND A WAY TO PRESERVE IT.
UH, BEFORE, UM, OUR CITY MANAGER, UH, LEFT, HIM AND I WERE WORKING ON PRESERVING THIS.
WE HAD REACHED OUT TO THE LANDOWNER.
HE, HE SEEMED AMENABLE TO WORKING THE WELL INTO HIS PROJECT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CODIFY IT IN SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE.
I DON'T, I DON'T LOOK, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING THAT HE WOULD GO BACK ON HIS WORD.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN WRITING, IT'S LIKE NOT HAVING IT AT ALL.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC STAGE LINE, THE ORIGINAL STAGE LINE THERE, MAKING SURE WE, UM, PRESERVE THIS HISTORIC WELL.
AND AS A CITY, IF WE, I I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, HIRE A TEAM.
I GOT AN EMAIL ON A TEAM THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO DO THE STUDY TO FIND THE HISTORICAL CERTIFICATES.
I'LL EMAIL FOR THAT EMAIL TO STAFF AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF KYLE.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR HISTORY.
AND THE REASON WHY IS, BEFORE THERE WAS A RAIL LINE BEFORE THERE WAS A KYLE, THERE WAS A STAGECOACH LINE AND IT'S WHAT THE FAMILIES USED BACK IN THE DAY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE PRESERVE THAT AND, AND PACE SOME HOMAGE TO WHAT KYLE WAS BEFORE IT WAS KYLE.
AND, UH, NOT FORGETTING OUR HISTORY IS WHAT MY GOAL IS HERE.
UM, SO I MEAN THIS IS, BUT YOUR ISSUE IS NOT WITH
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COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING THERE? NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT WITH THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING.I ACTUALLY LIKE THAT CAUSE IT'S A BETTER ZONING FOR THEN, UH, JUST REGULAR COMMERCIAL, UH, THE DRIVE THROUGH OUT MAKING SURE THAT WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THE RESIDENTS, UH, THAT LIVE NEARBY.
I, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE BUFFER ZONES BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES AS WELL, UH, AS SOMETHING THAT I, I'LL PUSH AS WELL, BUT ALSO PRESERVING THE, UH, LARGE OAK TREES THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY AND, UH, THE WELL, AND THEN YOU SAID THE STAGECOACH LINE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STAGECOACH ROAD WANTING TO PRESERVE IT SO THAT IT DOESN'T GO AWAY.
YEAH, MAKING SURE, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T AS A CITY GIVE IT TO A LANDOWNER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS A PRIVATE RIGHT OF WAY.
MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ALWAYS, UH, IT ALWAYS BELONGS TO THE, THE COMMUNITY CUZ IT'S THE ORIGINAL RAIL LINE, UH, STAGECOACH LINE.
I'M MAKING SURE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S A PART OF HISTORY.
IF IT WAS JUST A ROADWAY, I PROBABLY WOULD BE OKAY WITH JUST GIVING IT AWAY LATER IF WE ARE DOING SOME KIND OF A LAND SWAP OR SOMETHING.
BUT BECAUSE IT'S A A, A PART OF THE ORIGINAL STAGECOACH LINE THAT RAIN THROUGH RAN THROUGH KYLE, I, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE PRESERVE IT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING WITH IT, BUT I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN PLACE NOW TO PRESERVE IT.
SO, UH, THIS IS THE TIME TO DO ALL THIS WHEN WE'RE WELL, BUT IS THIS THE GREG FAMILY WHO OWNS THIS? NO, THE GREG FAMILY DOESN'T OWN STAGECOACH ROAD.
NO, THE LAND THAT WE'RE ZONING, IS THIS THEIR LAND TRANSACTION? CUZ ALL THE NEGOTIATIONS WE'VE DONE AS IT RELATES TO STAGECOACH AND THE MAJORITY THE LAND? NO, THIS IS DIFFERENT LAND LANDOWNER.
SO, BUT THE, THE, THE NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE ROUTE OF STAGECOACH AS IT RELATES TO THE, ALL THOSE HOMES THAT ARE EXISTING RIGHT THERE NEXT TO STAGECOACH, THAT'S THE GREG FAMILY.
AND SO THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE IMPACTING AND WANTING THAT ROAD TO BE MOVED FURTHER AWAY FROM THEIR PROPERTIES AND FOR IT TO BE REROUTED, WHICH I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE WE'RE AT.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE ANYWHERE IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
BUT THAT THE ROUTE OF STAGE COACH AS IT RELATES TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT SOMETHING ROD GONNA BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH NOW, NOT WITH THIS ONE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS TIED INTO THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IF THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE ROADWAY STAYS IN.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT STAFF KNOW IS AWARE RIGHT NOW THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT, UH, ROADWAY.
BUT REALLY RIGHT NOW, THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT THE, WELL, MAKING SURE WE GET THAT, UH, CODIFIED IN SOME KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT WE, UH, ARE PRESERVING THAT WELL AND MAKING SURE, OKAY.
CAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN ATTAINABLE GOAL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ROUTE OF, YOU KNOW, NOT MOVING STAGECOACH OVER A LITTLE BIT TO TAKE THE BEND OUT.
AND TO MOVE IT AWAY FROM THAT HOMEOWNERS.
IT'S STILL GONNA BE STAGE COACH.
BUT I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
IT'S JUST THAT'S THE GREG FAMILY WHO WOULD BE THE ONES WHO WOULD NEGOTIATE THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LONG WAY TO GO ON THAT DEAL THAT'S MONTHS AWAY FROM OKAY.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN YEARS AWAY.
SO, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, UH, RELATED TO THE, WELL, UH, ARE YOU IN CONTACT WITH THE SELLERS WILL OR THE APPLICANT TO ASK IF THEY INTEND TO PRESERVE THE WELL, AND IF THEY WOULD, WOULD THEY CODIFY THAT? YEAH, MR. UH, ONE OF THE ADJACENT LANDOWNERS, UH, MR. FRANKIE JUST TO THE SOUTHWEST, THERE HE IS.
HE HAS INDICATED THERE WAS A WELL ON SITE.
UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF WHERE IT IS, BUT, UH, WE CAN, I DO KNOW, AS PART OF A, A PROJECTS, UM, REQUIREMENTS, THEY HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE, UM, WITH THE STATE TO MAKE SURE THERE, IF THERE'S WELLS ON SITE, THAT THEY'RE ACCOUNTED FOR APPROPRIATELY.
AND AS PART OF THAT PROCESS AS WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THEM, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THEM AND SEE IF THEY'RE, THEY CAN MAKE THAT INTO AN AMENITY OF SORTS FROM HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE.
SO I, I'VE GOT PICTURES OF THE, WELL, I'VE, UH, I'VE GOT THE LOCATION AS WELL.
SO I'VE GONE OVER AND EXPLORED IT WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, THAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY.
WELL, BUT AS SOON AS YOU COME INTO THE, UH, SURE.
WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? UTILITY DISTRICT DISTRICT TO AREA 57 OFF OF STAGECOACH.
AS SOON AS YOU, YOU GO IN ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET, IT'S THERE ON YOUR RIGHT.
THERE'S A, A GROVE OF OAK TREES RIGHT THERE.
AND YOU'LL SEE THE WELL IN THERE.
UH, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
ALL THOSE, UH, ACTUALLY, UM, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, AND THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO POSTPONE, UH, UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.
CORRECT? WE WANNA CLARIFY THAT? YEP.
UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO POSTPONE, UH, AGENDA ITEM.
SORRY, I, I LOST 30 30 AND, UH, KEEP TO THE NEXT REGULAR, UH, MEETING CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND KEEP THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AS WELL.
SO, UH, THE, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE FAVORS SAY, AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
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(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 153 acres of land from ‘A’ (Agriculture) to ‘R-1-A’ (Single Family Attached), approximately 16.5 acres of land from ‘A’ (Agriculture) to ‘R-3-2’ (Multifamily Residential 2) and approximately 1.5 acres of land from ‘A’(Agriculture) to ‘RS’ (Retail Services) for property located between Opal Ln and Roland Ln, adjacent to the UPRR tracks, which includes all legally recorded lots in the final plats of Paramount Section 1, Paramount Section 2 & Opal Point at Kyle MF, in Hays County, Texas. This includes all the property contemplated in the “Development Agreement Between City of Kyle, Texas, and Intermandeco GP, LLC or Assigns”, dated August 10th, 2017. (Intermandeco GP, LLC - Paramount Subdivision - Z-22-0108) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the request.
- Public Hearing
I WATCHED THIS ONE AT P AND Z.
FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE, UH, AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING.
APPROXIMATELY 153 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE
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TO R ONE A APPROXIMATELY 16.5 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO R THREE TWO, APPROXIMATELY 1.5 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN OPAL AND, UH, ROLAND LANE, ADJACENT TO U P R R TRACKS, WHICH INCLUDES ALL LEGALLY RECORDED LOTS IN THE FINAL PLATS OF PARAMOUNT.SECTION ONE, PARAMOUNT SECTION TWO, AND OPAL POINT AT COLLIN METH IN HAY COUNTY, TEXAS.
THIS INCLUDES ALL THE PROPERTY CONTEMPLATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AND INNER MANCO, UH, GP LLC OR SIGN STATED AUGUST 10TH, 2017.
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE HEARD THE WORD INTER MANCO, MR. ATKINSON.
ALL RIGHT, UH, WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD PLANNING DIRECTOR.
ALL RIGHT, SO IN SHORT, THIS PROJECT IS A DOBBING OF THE I'S CROSSING IN THE T'S PROCEDURAL ZONING REQUEST IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS STATED IN THE, UH, IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND ALSO ON THE AGENDA ITEM IN SECTION 2.02, IT CONTEMPLATES WHAT ZONING WILL BE ON SITE.
WHAT IT DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE WAS THE APPLICANT HAVING TO APPLY FOR THE ZONING BY A CERTAIN DATE.
AND THAT WAS A, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ENTERED BACK IN 2017.
AND SO NOW AS WE'RE PROCESSING THROUGH THE PERMITS AND THROUGH THIS PROJECT, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO ALL THEIR SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS AND ALL THAT.
BUT NOW THAT THEY'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THEIR PROJECT, UM, IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FROM A GETTING ALL THE HUNDREDS OF LANDOWNER PER PERMISSIONS TO REZONE EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT.
AND STAFF HAS BEEN RECEIVING PHONE CALLS FROM LENDERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU ASKING WHY THIS PROJECT HAS AG ZONING.
BUT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS VERY SPECIFIC LAND USES ON SITE AND THEN IT DON'T MATCH UP.
SO THE CITY HAS DECIDED, AND I SAY THE CITY, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS DECIDED TO UTILIZE THE CITY'S GRANTED POWERS BY THE STATE FOR UNILATERAL ZONING TO MOVE FORWARD TO REZONE THE PROPERTIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO, UM, FROM A DOCUMENTATION STANDPOINT, FROM PAPERWORK AND EVERYTHING, IT'S A LOT MORE EFFICIENT FOR ONCE FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DO THIS INSTEAD OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, IT, IT PASSED SIX ZERO, OR SORRY, SEVEN, NO, SIX ZERO WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, LAST WEEK.
WELL JUST CLEAN EVERYTHING UP, BUT A NICE, NEAT BOW ON IT.
AND, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK.
THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ATKINSON? COUNCIL FLOOR SCALE? THANK YOU.
IS SO THIS IS, ARE THESE HOUSES ALREADY BUILT? I GUESS I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT, UM, THE SITUATION.
UM, AND THE ANSWER IS YES, THERE ARE, THERE'S, THERE'S AT LEAST A COUPLE HUNDRED LOTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SOLD OFF AND WITH TWO RECORDED PLOTS AND SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENTS IN PLACE.
AND THEY'RE ALSO BUILDING THE MULTI-FAMILY SIDE.
RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A, WHEN THE, WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS WRITTEN, IT WAS NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO HAVE A TIMEFRAME IN PLACE FOR, UH, THE APPLICANT, THE DEVELOPER TO APPLY FOR ZONING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS MOVING FORWARD DO.
AND GENERALLY THE ONES BEFORE THAT DID TOO, FOR SOME REASON IT WAS NOT PUT IN THE AGREEMENT.
AND IT HAS, I WON'T SAY BLOWN UP, BUT IT'S, IT'S GOT US TO THIS POINT TO WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE, IT NEEDS TO BE, IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND THIS IS THE WAY TO FIX IT.
SO, UH, THEY, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAID THEY WERE ALLOWED TO SUBMIT PLANS AND WHAT HAVE YOU AND DO THEIR PROJECT BECAUSE THEY, IN EFFECT, THEY HAVE THEIR ENTITLEMENTS FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.
THEY, THEY CAN BUILD TO THE R ONE A ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY.
THEY CAN BUILD TO THE R THREE TWO ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY AND TO DEVELOP THE 1.5 ACRES FOR RETAIL SERVICES AT A TIME THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND PLUS THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE CODE FOR THEIR PROJECT.
UM, AND IT REFERENCES THE ZONING THAT THEY WILL HAVE, BUT AGAIN, IT DOESN'T PUT STIPULATE TIMEFRAME THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT.
IT UM, AND FOR EXAMPLE, SO COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES SCALE, IF THE APPLICANT, THE DEVELOPER WERE TO COME AND REQUEST A REZONING AND THEY WERE TO HAVE TO GET PAPERWORK FROM EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THEY'VE ALREADY SOLD TO, THAT WOULD BE
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A LANDOWNER AUTHORIZATION FORM A DEED, UH, IN SOME CASES, UM, THE FRANCHISE TAX ACCOUNT STATUS FOR SOME OF THOSE LAWS, CUZ UNDOUBTEDLY THERE'S PROBABLY SOME IN THERE THAT ARE OWNED BY CORPORATIONS OR, OR LLCS FOR, FOR RENTAL PURPOSES.AND SO THE AMOUNT OF PAPERWORK INVOLVED WITH THAT WHEN THE ZONING SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETE VERY EARLY ON, BUT IT HADN'T BEEN, CUZ WE COULDN'T LEGALLY ENFORCE IT.
WE COULDN'T FORCE 'EM TO COME TO THE TABLE BECAUSE THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS WRITTEN, THE, IT'S A LOT MORE EFFICIENT FOR STAFF TO RESOLVE IT, UM, FROM THE CITY SIDE INITIATING THE ZONING.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S COMING FORWARD.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ABOUT THE ACTUAL SITES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THEY CAN ALREADY DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ALLOWED TO DO WITH THE ZONING SLASH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE TWO AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO IT'S JUST, OKAY, SO I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
YOU SAID I GET, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, YEAH, THIS WAS SIGNED IN 2017 AND THEY CHOSE TO WAIT FIVE YEARS AND NOW THAT IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS AND THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED, THE CITY'S GONNA MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF I NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THAT.
IT WASN'T OUR FAULT THAT THEY DIDN'T BUILD WITHIN FIVE YEARS HAD THEY STARTED BUILDING, SAY EVEN WITHIN TWO YEARS.
I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
LIKE USUALLY AFTER THREE YEARS IF THEY DON'T BUILD THEN IT, IT, IT GOES AWAY.
BUT THERE'S ALSO CONSEQUENCES FOR THEM WAITING FIVE YEARS.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE WANT THOSE CONSEQUENCES, IF ANY, TO LOOK LIKE? CUZ I'M NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT THEY TOOK SO LONG.
SO, UH, LET'S GET PAIGE INVOLVED AT THIS POINT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF PAIGE, YOU KNOW, SO THE QUESTION IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO UH, UH, UNILATERALLY AS THE CITY APPLIES ZONING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, IF WE, UM, THEY'RE ALREADY BUILDING, IF WE JUST CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT, UH, WOULD THEY BE FORCED TO STOP? WOULD THAT BE A CONSEQUENCE? WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE BUILDING? WHAT WOULD THE CONSEQUENCE BE? WELL, IF THEY'RE AUTHORIZED TO, FOR THOSE LAND USES, IF THOSE LAND USES ARE AUTHORIZED UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY CAN CONTINUE WITH THOSE UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME AND YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT SO IT EXPIRES.
BUT USUALLY THAT'S NOT A ZONING ISSUE.
IT'S A, IT'S NOT A ZONING BASED ISSUE.
SO THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T APPLY FOR ZONING PROBABLY DOES NOT CHANGE THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THE AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I CAN'T ANSWER SPECIFICALLY.
BUT THE ANSWER IS IF YOU DON'T ZONE THEM, THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE LAND USES THEY HAVE, UM, UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAYS OTHERWISE.
AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE INCONSISTENT ZONING, THEY'LL HAVE NON-CONFORMING USES AND THAT COULD BE CONFUSING FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE OF ISSUING PERMITS AND ENFORCING PERMITS AND THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD AFFECT THEIR TITLE OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT AFFECTS CONVEYANCE OF PROPERTY, IF IT COMES UP IN A TITLE.
THAT PART I DON'T KNOW, BUT I FLAG IT IS IT COULD, IT COULD AFFECT.
SO IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THEY BROUGHT ON THEMSELVES AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE NICE AND FIX IT? AND THEN WHEN I SAY, LET ME REPHRASE THAT, BECAUSE THEY WAITED SO LONG, IS THAT WHAT BRINGS UP THIS ISSUE? BECAUSE THERE IT'S BEEN DELAYED SO LONG FROM, UH, THEM, THEM APPLYING FOR THE ZONING, UM, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE EARLY ON.
THE, THE AMOUNT OF PAPERWORK AND I, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY IT, TO GET OUT OF DOING PAPERWORK, WE DO PAPERWORK ALL DAY EVERY DAY IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
RIGHT? BUT THE, THE ONSLAUGHT OF PAPERWORK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE GENERATED FOR US TO CHECK EVERY SINGLE ITEM IF THEY WERE TO APPLY IS SO ASTRONOMICAL.
BUT, BUT HANG ON, WILL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IF THEY WERE TO APPLY FOR ZONING FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PLATTED LOT, BUT THE QUESTION IS, IF IF WE JUST DON'T GIVE THEM THEIR ZONING, THEN THEY'RE NOT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET ALL 100 LANDOWNERS TO ALL APPLY FOR ZONING TO FIX THIS ISSUE.
THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION AT THIS POINT.
BUT IF WE CHOSE NOT TO APPLY THIS SOLUTION, WHAT WOULD IT HAPPEN THEN? WHY IS IT COMING FORWARD NOW? WHY ARE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD? WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE AGREEMENT ALREADY SHOWS.
AND THEN WHENEVER LENDERS DO CALL, WHICH THEY DO, WE CAN GIVE 'EM A MUCH BETTER ANSWER.
ONE THAT'S MORE WRAPPED UP AND THEN CLEANED UP.
IT'S PROBABLY, IT'S IT'S A CLEANING UP OF THE, FOR THIS PROJECT.
I IMAGINE IT'S EASIER FOR, FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT FOR THE ZONING AND
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THE LAND USES TO BE CONSISTENT JUST FROM A REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE AND KNOWING WHAT PEOPLE CAN AND CAN'T DO ON THEIR PROPERTY.CUZ THEY DON'T, THEY CAN JUST LOOK AT THE ZONING AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO THERE'S PROBABLY SOME BENEFIT OR A LOT OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY FOR THAT.
YEAH, I WANTED, LIKE FOR THE STAFF AND EMPLOYEES, I, I WOULD VOTE YES FOR THIS, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE CAN'T HAVE DEVELOPERS DOING THIS AND I'M GOING TO VOTE YES, BUT MY CONCERN IS LIKE, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THE DEVELOPERS DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW YEAH.
MAKE IT A HABIT OR FEEL LIKE THEY GOT TO BE CLEAR IN THE, IN THE YEARS 2015, 16 AND 17 AS WE WERE INTER MANCO OR PARAMOUNT, I BELIEVE WAS THE THIRD PIT WE EVER DID.
THE FIRST ONE WAS BUNTON CREEK THAT ENDED IN A LAWSUIT.
UH, THE SECOND ONE WAS, UM, THAT WAS FROM LIKE 2013.
BUT WE CREATED PIT POLICIES AS A RESULT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PIT ADMINISTRATORS ON STAFF.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF ISSUES WITH IT, RIGHT? SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, LIKE YOU NOTICE NOW WE TRY TO BRING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, ZONINGS ENTITLEMENTS ALL TO THE TABLE AT, AT THE SAME TIME.
WE'RE DOING THAT NOW BECAUSE WE LEARN THESE LESSONS WITH INTER MANI CO.
I HEARD ABOUT THIS A LONG, LONG TIME AGO, BUT THERE WAS JUST NOTHING TO NOTHING TO BE DONE OTHER THAN WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU, IT SUCKS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE ALMOST GONNA PUNISH OURSELVES, RIGHT? WE DON'T APPROVE IT.
AND THE LESSON HAS LEARNED AND THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW, LIKE WHEN'S THE LAST TIME WE APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITHOUT HIS ZONING? I MEAN, WE'VE DONE IT TWICE TONIGHT.
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ZONING TOGETHER.
SO I MEAN, WE HAVE LEARNED THAT, THAT LESSON AND, AND WILL WASN'T EVEN THE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, HE WASN'T EVEN ON STAFF AT, AT ALL BACK THEN.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T BLAME WILLETT FOR THIS AT ALL.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S, YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT TRYING TO, TO BENEFIT AND BEND FOR THE DEVELOPER WHO WAITED FIVE YEARS.
WELL, I, I DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPER PROBABLY CARES WHAT, WHICH WAY WE DO.
WELL, HE WOULD HAVE TO COLLECT LIKE THAT INFORMATION FROM ALL THE LOTS, WHICH IS LIKE A HUNDRED.
AND THE BAD PART IS OUR STAFF WILL HAVE TO PROCESS THAT PAPERWORK.
BUT THE, THE RESPONSIBILITY TO COLLECT ALL THAT WOULD BE ON THE DEVELOPER.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE DOING A GOOD, WE'RE DOING A FAVOR FOR THEM.
AND I HOPE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
IF I, IF I COULD ADD MS. MS FORS KE YOU'VE DRIVEN OUT THERE, THEY HAVE ALREADY TORN UP THE ROADS.
THEY'VE ALREADY CUT DOWN ALL THOSE OAK TREES.
THEY'VE LEVELED ALL THAT LAND.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST LIKE A DRY DESERT WITH JUST HOMES WERE POPPING UP.
SO IT'S, WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW TO WHERE WE'RE JUST KIND OF LIKE UNSCREWING SOMETHING THAT WAS SCREWED UP IN A WAY.
UM, SO FROM COUNCIL'S PASSED, NOT SEEN COUNCILS PASS, BUT JUST FROM, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT MAYOR, WE'RE LEARNING OUR LESSONS.
WE'RE TAKING THE HITS, WE'RE TAKING THE PUNCHES WITH THESE KIND OF THINGS AND THINGS ARE POPPING UP.
OH, THAT WE HAVEN'T SIGNED OFF ON THIS FOR FIVE YEARS AGO OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, BUT WE HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE NOW.
AND SO THIS IS WHEN WE'RE, I WISH DOING THE DAS AND STUFF, LIKE, I WISH Y'ALL COULD HAVE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FIVE, FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO BECAUSE AT THAT POINT IN TIME MM-HMM.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 31.
MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TIM SECOND AND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, WILL WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 31? IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ALL ALSO A FAVOR? SAY AYE.
WHOLE POST MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ZERO.
[32.
(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 5.43 acres of land from ‘A’ (Agriculture) to ‘RS’ (Retail Services) for property located approximately 450 feet north of the intersection of IH-35 & Old Bridge Trail in Hays County, Texas. (Sunrise Village Investments, LLC - Z-22-0107) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the request.
- Public Hearing
THIS ONE MAY PRO RIGHT, RIGHT NOW MY COMPUTER STARTS ACTING UP HERE.
THE FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE OF MINDY CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING.
APPROXIMATELY 5.43 ACRES OF LAND FROM A AGRICULTURE TO RS RETAIL FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 450 FEET NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION BY 35 IN OLD BRIDGE TRAIL IN HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS.
SUNRISE VILLAGE INVESTMENTS LLC.
UM, WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING THIS YOUR ITEM.
UM, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, UH, DO YOU WANNA PRESENT WILL AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, SIR.
UH, WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, UH, PETITION NUMBER Z 22 1 0 7.
UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO ZONE APPROXIMATELY, UH, A LITTLE LESS THAN FIVE AND A HALF ACRES TO FROM AG TO RETAIL SERVICES ALONG THE INTERSTATE FRONTAGE ROAD.
UH, IT'S, UM, 400, APPROXIMATELY 450 FEET NORTHEAST OF HEB RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE INTERSECTION OF BBB ROAD, WHICH BETWEEN KYLE CROSSING AND IH 35 FRONTEST ROAD.
UH, THE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT, UH, THIS IS STRAIGHT ZONING.
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OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ALONG THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY IS A PERFECTLY, UH, GOOD ZONING DISTRICT FOR, FOR POINT OF SALE SERVICE.UM, RESTAURANTS, OFFICE, UM, GROCERY STORE, YOU NAME IT.
THOSE SERVICE USES THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT'LL GENERATE SALES TAX REVENUE.
UH, THE, THE UNIQUENESS ABOUT THIS SIDE IS, IS THAT IT WILL BE AT THE SOUTHERN END, UH, ALONG A PORTION OF THE VIBE TRAIL.
SO THEY WILL HAVE TO BUILD A, A PORTION OF THE TRAIL ITSELF HOOKING INTO THEIR PROPERTY AND WE'LL NEED TO DESIGN ACCORDINGLY.
UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE END USER IS GOING TO BE.
UM, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF FLOOD PLAIN ALSO IN THAT SOUTHERN PORTION, BUT THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DEVELOP WITHIN THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF OF THE BUILDING, THE PARKING LOT AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
UM, AND SO THEY'LL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT ACCORDINGLY AS WELL AT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
UM, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, IT'S A SMALLER SITE, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE FOR THE RETAIL SERVICES AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE, UH, A PROJECT AND WITH ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THE VIBE TRAIL SYSTEM.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS AND WE ASK THE SHE APPROVE IT AS WELL.
SO WE NOW HAVE, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.
I'LL NOW OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
ANYONE WISHING TO COMMENT? UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
SCENE NONE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION, COUNSEL MAYOR, APPROACH HIM.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 32.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND, UH, SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIS.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER CAL.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'M KIND OF HESITANT, UM, CUZ THIS IS LIKE A PRIME LOCATION AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE STICK IN HERE AND I KNOW WE CAN'T VOTE BASED ON THAT, BUT I'M REALLY NERVOUS TO REZONE WITHOUT ANY KIND OF LIKE, IS THERE LIKE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE CITY CAN USE IN ORDER TO UTILIZE OR TO, TO UTILIZE IN ORDER TO LIKE CONTROL THIS AREA? WHICH FOR ME IS, IS UH, ONE OF THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS PARTS OF THE CITY CUZ IT'S RIGHT OFF OF 35.
SO I GUESS IS THERE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? IS THERE SOMETHING? YES MA'AM.
THERE IS, THERE'S NOT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT THIS IS IN THE I 35 OVERLAY.
UH, SO IT WILL HAVE TO RE BE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP ARCHITECTURALLY TO THOSE STANDARDS, WHICH PRECEDED THE HOUSE BILL FROM 2018 THAT TOOK AWAY OUR POWERS OTHERWISE, UM, FROM ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT.
AND THEN IT ALSO, UM, HAS WITHIN THE I 35 OVERLAY WITHIN RELATED SECTIONS TO THAT.
IT ALSO HAS HIGHER STANDARDS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS AS WELL.
SO YOU GOT THOSE TWO DEPLOYMENTS PLUS THE VIBE RELATED ITEMS TYING INTO THAT.
AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, BACK IN MAY PASS RESTRICTIONS ON, UH, ON, UM, USES RELATED TO CAR WASHES AND MM-HMM.
SO THOSE, AT LEAST THOSE TWO USES WILL BE LIMITED, UM, BY DEFAULT FROM A USE PERSPECTIVE.
I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION.
WILL, SO IN THAT SECTION 53 DASH 4 81, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE CONDITIONS AND LIMITATIONS, IT SAYS THE CONDITIONS AND LIMITATIONS AND USES IN THE RS DISTRICT ARE AS FOLLOWED TO BE THEY USE BE CONDUCTED WHOLLY WITHIN AN INCLUDES BUILDING.
EXCEPT FOR THAT MEANS THOSE, THOSE, UM, USES RIGHT THERE CANNOT BE DONE THE DELIVERY, CATERING, GASOLINE SALE, PLANNED NURSERY, GARDEN CENTERS, OUTDOOR DINING, OUTDOOR DISPLAY OF MERCHANDISE.
SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S A SECTION OF A CODE THAT'S ALL THE WAY BACK FROM 2003, I BELIEVE.
UM, THE SEC, THE ORDINANCE NUMBER 4 38.
SO THESE ARE USES THAT ARE BY RIGHT.
NOW THESE PROCEEDED TO OUR GAS STATION ORDINANCE THAT HAPPENED, UM, BACK IN MAY.
SO TECHNICALLY THE GASOLINE ONE WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S THE A HAS A, HAS A GAS GAS STATION CLOSE ENOUGH TO IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, PLANT NURSERY LIKE LOWE'S OR GARDEN CENTER OUTDOOR DINING, SO YOU HAVE YOUR LITTLE OUTDOOR PATIOS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
IF IT'S A, IT'S DESIGNED APPROPRIATELY, UM, OUTDOOR DISPLAY OF MERCHANDISE, THAT IN ITSELF THE OUTDOOR DISPLAY OF MERCHANDISE, UM, TYPICALLY WE REQUIRE THOSE ITEMS TO GO BACK INSIDE, UM, AT THE END OF THE NIGHT.
UM, I THINK THERE'S CODE ELSEWHERE.
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RELATED TO ZONING, BUT WILL OUTDOOR DINING BE ALLOWED? WHERE OR WILL IT, WILL IT BE, WILL IT BE ALLOWED? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF, IF IT IS SUCH A PRIME LOCATION THAT WE, WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE OUTDOOR DINING, SO I'M NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING IF, ARE WE ALLOWED OR TO HAVE IT OR NOT.CUZ THE GAS STATION WAS, WAS THERE.
BUT YOU SAY THAT THE GAS STATION SUPERSEDES BECAUSE WE JUST MADE THE RULE ABOUT THE GAS STATIONS.
SO IF, IF THEY WERE TO PICK OUTDOOR DINING, IT WILL BE ALLOWED IN THIS LOCATION.
SO LIKE IF THERE WAS A BUSINESS THAT HAD THAT, THAT RESTAURANT, THAT RESTAURANT, THEY COULD HAVE THAT OUTDOOR DINING OR THAT PATIO.
NOW I HAVE SEEN SOME GAS STATIONS THAT ARE MORE SERVICE STATIONS THAT ARE COMING UP IN AUSTIN THAT ARE HAVING THEIR ACTUAL RESTAURANT INSIDE THE STORE AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN OUTDOOR DINING THAT'S LIKE A TRAVEL MINI TRAVEL CENTER KIND OF DEAL.
UH, ALSO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING CONSTRUCTION OR WHEREVER, THEY ACTUALLY CAN GO IN AND BUY THE FOOD AND THEN HAVE OUT OUTDOOR SEATING ALONG WITH SERVICE STATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT TO GO BY, IF YOU DON'T MIND MI PROTEIN GOING BY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FLORES KALE, THIS IS WHY I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE RETAIL.
WE WANNA BE VERY PICKY ABOUT WHAT'S THERE.
I THINK THIS HITS BACK TO THE STAGECOACH SITUATION TO WHERE LIKE WHAT WILLS SAYING, WE HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE, WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE, NOW WE HAVE THINGS THAT, UH, OR ITEMS OR DA AGREEMENTS THAT WE CAN GET BUSINESSES TO SAY THIS GOING FORWARD.
THIS IS WHAT'S TO BE EXPECTED FROM THE CITY, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA.
SO I, I THINK WITH, WITH THIS HERE, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS ON A FRONT, IT IS ACTUALLY ALL FOR 35.
BUT I THINK WE NOW, BY APPROVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE CAN REALLY GAIN A, A BUSINESS THAT MIGHT BE REALLY WANTING TO BE, BE THERE AS FAR AS, UM, PROVIDING SOME KIND OF PRODUCT OR SERVICES FOR, FOR PEOPLE IN THAT AREA OR JUST RIGHT OFF THE HIGHWAY.
ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
OH, YOU HAVE, WE HAD A MOTION IN A SECOND.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OH, UH, WE'LL CALL THE MAYOR BACK.
HE HAD TO RECUSE HIMSELF CAUSE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND HE'S BACK.
[33. [Postponed 10/3/2022] Discussion and possible action regarding updating the policy on Appointments for City Boards, Committees and Commissions. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]
33.UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING UPDATE THE POLICY ON APPOINTMENTS FOR CITY BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS, CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
SO AFTER THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE APPOINTED NEW MEMBERS OR REAPPOINTED MEMBERS WHO ARE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, I REALIZED REALLY HOW DYSFUNCTIONAL THE PROCESS IS.
AND I FEEL LIKE THE PROCESS DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SELECTION PROCESS.
UM, I DON'T THINK THEIR RULES ARE CLEARLY STATED CLEARLY.
UM, AND THE LAST THING I THINK THAT WE NEED IS TO HAVE RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO REALLY HELP SHOW UP TO THE MEETING AND THEN BE VOTED NO ON THE PUBLIC MEETING AND THEN HAVING RESIDENTS THAT ARE HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOR NOT BEING IN THE MEETING, THEN BE VOTED NO TOO.
SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE A COMPARISON OF THE NEWLY ADOPTED POLICY AND THE OLDER POLICY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO SOME CHANGES.
UM, SO I KNOW THIS SECTION FOUR OF THE NEW POLICY, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE GONE AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I DIDN'T SUBMIT ANY BACKUP MATERIAL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, IF WE CAN BRING IT UP.
BUT WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT, UM, WE DO A SELECTION, UH, WE DO A PANEL OF PEOPLE THAT WILL DO INTERVIEWS AND THE PANEL SHOULD BE, UM, WHO SHOULD BE IN THAT PANEL.
MY MY SUGGESTION WILL BE CITY MANAGER OR AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, DIRECTOR RELATED TO THE BOARD AND A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE A PART OF THE PANEL.
UM, I WOULD LIKE THEN THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE VOTED IN A REGULAR MEETING TO SEE WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER IS GOING TO BE PART OF EACH PANEL.
UM, MY NEXT SUGGESTION WILL BE FOR THE PANEL TO SCREEN APPLICATIONS TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET THE BASIC CRITERIA THAT IS STATED BY THE CHARTER AND THEN THE PANEL TO DO INTERVIEWS ON ALL QUALIFIED APPLICANTS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL TO APPOINT THE SELECTED APPLICANTS.
I THINK THAT THE LAST TWO MEETINGS ARE BEING QUITE A DISASTER.
SO ANY DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE SUGGESTION CUSTOMER FORCE
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SCALE, UM, THAT IS EERILY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST CHANGED?MAYBE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA TRY IT AGAIN.
I I DO AGREE IT WAS KIND OF A MESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF AS A COUNCIL WE'RE DOING IT THE WAY THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY INTENDED, UM, BECAUSE, UH, I'M GUILTY OF NOT WATCHING THE SAN MARCO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH I THINK THIS WAS BASED ON.
UM, BUT I I I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PROCESS THAT YOU DES THAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED IS THE ANSWER BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE JUST MOVED AWAY FROM.
UM, BUT I AGREE THAT THERE'S SOME CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD GO ABOUT MAKING THOSE CHANGES.
CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S LITERALLY GOING RIGHT BACK.
SO, AND IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
WELL, THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENCES THAT, SO DIFFERENCE NUMBER ONE WAS THE, THAT SHE DIDN'T INCLUDE THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD MM-HMM.
SO THERE'D BE NO REPRESENTATION FROM THE BOARD ITSELF IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
AND NUMBER TWO, THE ORIGINAL POLICY HAD THE MAYOR DESIGNEE.
SO, UH, IT, IT, IT DISTINGUISHED THE MAYOR.
UH, BUT WHAT SHE, WHAT I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY PROPOSE, UH, IS THAT WE AS A GROUP VOTE AND ASSIGN COUNCIL MEMBERS TO INDIVIDUAL, UH, INTERVIEW PANELS SO THAT IF, SO, THAT THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY ABOUT WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
AND WE ALL AGREE ON WHO THAT PERSON IS.
SO HOPEFULLY THE, THE MAIN ISSUE FROM BEFORE, UH, AS I SAW IT, WAS THERE WAS A PERCEIVED TOO MUCH, UH, PROBABLY INFLUENCE ON MY PART RELATED TO PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH WAS THE, THE PRIMARY ISSUE AND A LACK OF FOLKS THAT DIDN'T GET INTERVIEWED.
SO, AND THAT WAS THE THIRD, THE THIRD CHANGE.
SO, UH, WHICH IS THAT ALL QUALIFIED APPLICANTS MUST BE INTERVIEWED, BUT I JUST, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY IN, IN, IN PARTICULAR TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PANEL THAT ALLOWS FOR A PROCESS TO BE PUT IN PLACE WHERE INTERVIEWS CAN TAKE PLACE.
SO THAT REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED OF THE APPLICANTS THAT YOU DON'T FIND OUT JUST BY GIVING THEM AN APPLICATION, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IN THE PARKS BOARD, ASKING FOLKS IF THEY KNOW ABOUT OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN OR IF THEY KNOW ABOUT, IF THEY CAN EVEN NAME THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE.
OR FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, ARE THEY FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? WHAT IS THE ROLE OF, OF PLANNING AND ZONING IN YOUR VIEW? AND, AND BE ABLE TO GET, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANTS CAN YOU MAKE THE MEETINGS.
IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT, YOU KNOW, A GREAT QUESTION.
AND THE, THE SETTING THAT WE HAVE WHERE WE BRING 30 PEOPLE INTO A ROOM, UH, IS NOT A, IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE SETTING TO TRY TO ACTUALLY INTERVIEW AND VET.
AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM TO, TO MAKE THEM ALL INTERVIEW IN FRONT OF US LIKE THAT.
SO, NO, I, I, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT THAT, CUZ IT WAS REALLY AWKWARD.
BUT, UM, THE, THE FIRST SUGGESTION I THOUGHT HAD ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME TO ADD THAT CHAIR.
UM, AND SO I DO THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT I THOUGHT IT GOT VOTED DOWN LAST TIME JUST TO BRAINSTORM SOME IDEAS.
I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE WE, WE ALL GET ACCESS TO THE APPLICATIONS AND WE PICK OUR TOP THREE AND THEN MAYBE SEND THEM TO JENNIFER AND THEN WE CAN NARROW 'EM DOWN BY THAT INSTEAD OF, I MEAN, INTERVIEWING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM.
THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TEDIOUS.
COUNCIL BRADSHAW, FIRST, THANK YOU.
THIS, THIS NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD.
SECONDLY, I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT IN ANY SORT OF, UH, GOOD TIMING THIS EVENING.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I DO LIKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS BY THE WAY, HOWEVER I WOULD OPT OUT OF BEING ON A PANEL.
UM, I JUST DON'T, AND, AND ALSO I THINK THAT YOU WOULD RUN INTO THE ISSUE IF THERE ARE A DIFFERENT AMOUNT OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAN THERE ARE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ONE MAY BE ON MORE THAN ONE BOARD OF COMMISSION PANEL AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THE IMBALANCE THERE.
BUT WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, AND OUT OF THE WAY, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONVENE, A TASK FORCE TO BRING BACK A RECOMMENDED POLICY SECOND, UH, MOTION BY CUSTOMER BRADSHAW SECOND AND BY COUNCIL FLORES KA, THAT WE CREATE A TASK FORCE TO BRING BACK A POLICY THROUGH DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
YEAH, JUST WE'RE GONNA NEED TO, SORRY, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO, UH, FIGURE OUT WHO'S GONNA BE ON IT.
OKAY, SO ONE OF THE THINGS REAL QUICK IS TO MAKE SURE IS THAT I, I THINK IF, UH, WE PUT A TASK FORCE TOGETHER, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA CUZ THEN WE'RE NOT JUST WIPING OUT ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE.
MAYBE WE CAN CODIFY SOME OF THE THINGS AND, AND FIX 'EM.
YOU, THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED LAST TIME.
BUT LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I MEAN, LET'S, LET'S GO LIVE AND LEARN, RIGHT? SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT DIDN'T WORK AS WELL AS WE THOUGHT.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO, TO MAKE IT WORK
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A LITTLE BETTER? AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.ONE OF THE THINGS I DID LIKE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BROUGHT UP WAS ABOUT BRINGING, UM, COUNCIL APPOINTING, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER SITS ON THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
I KNOW THAT I SAT ON A COUPLE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, OF THESE, UH, COMMISSIONS AS WELL FOR, UH, HIRING YOU.
I WAS ON THE LIBRARY BOARD AND THE PARKS BOARD.
SO I I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE ON MORE THAN ONE.
UH, BUT NOW IT'S COUNCIL PICKING.
IT'S NOT JUST SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE PERSON PICKING SOMEBODY THAT SITS ON THESE PANELS.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT LET'S BRING IT BACK.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON TONIGHT, SO IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON AND TRY TO BRING SOMETHING.
CAN, CAN WE AT LEAST LIKE VOTE ON WHO'S GONNA BE ON THE TASK FORCE TO GET THAT GOING? THAT WE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION SO WE CAN JUST HAVE A SINGLE VOTE.
BUT, UM, WHO'S INTERESTED? CUSTOMER? TOBI IS HAND RAISED.
UH, YEAH, AS, AS YOU KNOW, I WAS, I BROUGHT, I BROUGHT THIS UP WITH DEX LAST TIME AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD OUR DISCUSSIONS AND I WAS ON THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE IDEAS THAT WE DID COME UP WITH ON OUR TASK FORCE, REMEMBER, OF HAVING THE PARKS BOARD, WHOEVER'S IN SHARP PZ, WHO, IF IT WAS PZS, LET'S SAY GARRA WOULD BE ONE OF THE INTERVIEWERS ALONG WITH THE CITY MANAGER OR ALONG WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
AND THEN OF COURSE SOMEBODY ELSE, UM, SHOULD, I MEAN, YEAH, THOSE WERE THE IDEAS WE HAD AND, AND UM, I'M WILLING TO PASS IT ON TO THE, THE NEXT PERSON ON THAT END.
BUT WOULD YOU CONSIDER POSSIBLY WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTIONS UNTIL WE GET THE NEW PERSON ON BOARD? ABSOLUTELY.
LIKE WHETHER, WHOEVER IT IS DOING THE TASK FORCE RIGHT NOW, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT, THAT PERSON AS WELL, THAT PERSON WOULD BE THEIR FIRST ASSIGNMENT IN A WAY.
IF, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO WAIT FOR THAT.
BUT YES, TO DESIGN A TASK FORCE, BUT ONCE, UH, THE NEXT MEETING PERSON IS A NEW PERSON'S ON BOARD, IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IT'S FAIR.
WELL, NO OFFENSE, BUT IF A BRAND NEW PERSON IS, IS ELECTED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE DEALT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING TO GET, YOU KNOW, SOME EXPERIENCE AND WE'VE JUST DEALT WITH THE PROBLEMS. AND SO IT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
I AGREE THAT THE NEW PERSON, THE NEW MEMBER SHOULD BE INVOLVED.
I JOINED THE TASK FORCE ON MY SECOND MEETING AND I MESSED UP.
I'M, BUT THE SUGGESTION THAT YOU'RE BRINGING NOW THAT EVERYBODY'S AGREEING ON IS WHAT WE ALL CAME TOGETHER WITH.
AND YOU GAVE YOUR INPUT EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE TWO WEEKS IN.
SO WHAT YOU'RE, SO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING NOW, AND MS. BRADSHAW AGREES AND EVERYBODY ELSE AGREES.
THOSE WERE PART OF THE TASK FORCE THAT YOU AND I IN FLORES KALE.
THOSE WERE THE IDEAS THAT WE CAME UP WITH YOU BARELY ONE MONTH IN.
I I UNDERSTAND ALL I, ALL I SAY IS LIKE, WE, WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED AND IT'S NOT WORKING, SO LET'S, LET'S TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER.
MAYBE WE DO NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW PERSON IS IN, SO I'LL BE WILLING TO POSTPONE THAT.
SO CAN WE, CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO BRING IT BACK AT A CERTAIN TIME? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE A MOTION.
WELL, WE, WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE THERE LIKELY WILL BE A RUNOFF.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL THE JANUARY, THE END OF THE YEAR OR JANUARY.
WELL WE DON'T HAVE ANY, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY THE NO COMMISS UNTIL NEXT.
I THINK WE'RE JUST VOTING ON A DESIGNING A TASK FORCE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S COULD, UH, WIN IT 50 SOMETHING PERCENT OUT.
LET'S, I'M, SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR AS TO WHAT YOU'RE, I I LIKE THE IDEA OF WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION SO THE NEW PERSON CAN HAVE INPUT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE TASK FORCE, I THINK AS A GROUP WE HAVE, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, WE HAD THE OLD POLICY, WE CHANGED IT.
NOW WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.
I THINK WE ARE VERY EQUIPPED TO BRING FORWARD SOMETHING.
I'M NOT SAYING I HAVE TO BE ON THE TASK FORCE.
IT COULD BE ANY OF US, BUT I'M JUST, DO WE REALLY WANNA WAIT AND THEN PUT THAT, PUT THE BRAND NEW PERSON ON THE TASK FORCE TO CREATE A REVISION TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICY.
AND IF SO, WHY? WHY DOES, WHY DOES THAT WE NEW IDEAS, NEW IDEA? CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF, DON'T THINK, DO WE EVEN HAVE FOUR, THREE PEOPLE THAT WANNA BE ON A TASK FORCE, HAVE TO BE THREE PEOPLE.
SO I GUESS IT'S NOT A MATTER OF HAVING THAT PERSON ON, BUT JUST WHEN WE FINALLY HAVE A NEW TEAM, WHATEVER THE TEAM IS, AND THEN THIS IS GONNA BE A, A POLICY AND A PROCEDURE THAT THIS PERSON WILL EVENTUALLY VOTE ON AS WELL.
WHEN WE MAKE THESE, CUZ WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE 'EM UNANIMOUSLY.
I'M JUST STATING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR THREE PEOPLE BY ALL MEANS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE JUST ONE COUPLE WEEKS AWAY BEFORE WE HAVE SOMEBODY NEW ON BOARD.
SO I'M, I MIGHT BE JUST SPLITTING HERE, SO I'LL JUST BE QUIET.
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VOTING FOR A TASK FORCE TO BE FORMED, YES, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS FAR AS WHO'S ON IT, THAT COULD BE AT A LATER TIME.YOU WANT ME TO AMEND MY MOTION WITH A DATE TO BRING BACK THE, I, I THINK JUST, JUST RESCIND THE MOTION AND WE JUST MOVE ON.
AND KUMAN PARSLEY CAN BRING IT BACK AFTER THE ELECTION, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE TOO TECHNICAL WITH IT.
I RESEND MY MOTION TO, OH, I DON'T EVEN CREATE TASK FORCE.
ALL RIGHT, SO THAT MOTION IS RESCINDED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO OUR LAST ITEM
[35. Discussion and possible action regarding renaming of the Public Safety Center. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
IS AGENDA EM 35, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RENAMING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE.AND I WANNA PREFACE WITH, I AM NOT TRYING TO UNDO THE HARD WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THE CREATION OF THIS AMAZING BUILDING.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A REFERENCE TO OUR CITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT IN SOME CAPACITY ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
WHILE I WAS DISCUSSING THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER WITH A RESIDENT, THEY MENTIONED A POSSIBLE SAFETY ISSUE REGARDING THE LACK OF SIGNAGE REFERENCING A POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE BUILDING.
UM, ONE WAS, WILL GOOGLE SAY SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GOOGLE A POLICE DEPARTMENT? AND KYLE, WHAT WILL THAT GOOGLE GENERATE? WILL IT GENERATE A POLICE DEPARTMENT OR A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER? IF GOOGLE DOES REFERENCE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE BUILDING STATES PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, WILL IT DETER OR DELAY PEOPLE FROM RECEIVING SAFETY SERVICES? SO, UM, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, I GOOGLED, UM, LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND ONE OF THE, THE FIRST THINGS THAT PULLED UP WAS THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO GOOGLED, OOPS, I GOOGLED LIKE SAFETY CENTER IN GENERAL THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
AND I COULD NOT FIND ONE THAT HAD A, THAT WAS LIKE A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
A LOT OF 'EM HAD LIKE TRAINING CENTERS.
A LOT OF 'EM HAD, UM, CALL CENTERS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T AFFILIATE WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS.
AND SO, UM, MY THOUGHT WAS TO SOMEHOW INCORPORATE POLICE DEPARTMENT SLASH PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, OR, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WOULD BE TOTALLY ON BOARD FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT BUILDING IS GONNA BE MORE, UM, I'M ALWAYS GONNA BE IN FAVOR OF POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S GONNA BE LESS CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING.
UM, WELL, TO BE CLEAR, WHEN WE TOOK THIS ITEM TO THE VOTERS, WE TOOK IT WITH A GREAT DEAL OF PUBLICITY, CALLING IT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
WE TOOK A VOTE, UH, IN, IN THAT WAY.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY LIKE WE PROPOSITIONED THE VOTERS ON PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
THE VOTERS AGREED WITH PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT WAS NOT IN THE BOND LANGUAGE, THOUGH.
SO ACTUALLY WAS IN IT SAID POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN IT HAD, IT WAS IN EVERY DOCUMENT AND EVERY PUBLIC INFORMATION, UH, THAT WE PUT FORWARD AND VOTED ON AND ALL PLANS AND ALL GENER AND ALL RENDERINGS AND ALL NEWS ARTICLES.
IT'S JUST WHAT, WHAT WE'VE CALLED IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND SO, UM, AND THAT WAS DONE INTENTIONALLY AT THAT TIME.
AND SO IT FEELS TO ME A LITTLE BIT DISINGENUOUS FOR US TO CALL IT THAT, PRESENT IT TO THE VOTERS IN THAT WAY.
UH, AND THEN RIGHT AT THE END, UH, GO BACK AND CHANGE THE NAME OF IT.
SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH THAT, THAT FEELS THAT WAY.
AND I, I CAN PULL UP THE BOND INFORMATION, WHICH I THINK IT WAS PRETTY GENERAL, BUT I THINK OVERALL IT WAS REALLY PUSHED AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND SO I DON'T, I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF KICKBACK ABOUT, HEY, YOU SAID THIS WAS GONNA BE A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, WHICH, OKAY, WELL, I CAN'T SAY IT WAS IN ALL, ALL OF EVERYTHING, BUT, WELL, I, UH, I ALSO DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY'S GONNA HAVE ANY CONFUSION.
UH, IF YOU, IF YOU GOOGLE, YOU KNOW, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S GONNA BRING UP THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT WHAT DO THEY PULL UP AND IT DOESN'T SAY IT ON THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OKAY, WELL, IS THIS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? IT SAYS, IT SAYS PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, BIG AND BRIGHT.
MY WHOLE POINT, I DON'T LIKE IT DOESN'T SAY ONE AT A TIME.
AND PLEASE WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, CAN WE CALL IT PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND THEN KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE BOTTOM AT LEAST, OR LIKE IN AN ARCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
LIKE HOW DO WE INCORPORATE BOTH OF THEM? SORRY, MAYOR PRO TIM.
SO JUST, JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE HISTORY THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF REASONS, DISCUSSIONS THAT EARLY COUNCIL HAD ON NAMING IT.
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OF THE THINGS THAT I DEFINITELY, UH, WE SHIED AWAY FROM WAS JUSTICE CENTER.AND ONE REASON WE SHIED AWAY FROM JUSTICE CENTER EARLY ON WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF HIGH PROFILE CASES AT THE TIME THAT, UM, WERE INNOCENT.
PEOPLE HAD GONE TO JAIL AND THE JUSTICE CENTER, UH, WAS THE LOGO YOU SAW WHEN THEY'RE BEING RELEASED.
AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE JUSTICE HADN'T BEEN SERVED THERE.
WE WANTED THIS TO BE A, A PLACE FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO A REMINDER THAT IT, THAT ALL OF US WORK FOR THE PUBLIC.
THIS BUILDING BELONGS TO THE PUBLIC.
IT DOESN'T BELONG TO COUNCIL, IT DOESN'T BELONG TO ANYBODY ELSE.
BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE THE OFFICERS THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AS WELL.
SO WE CALLED IT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
BUT I THINK EVEN MOVING FORWARD TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEEDS IS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE POLICE DEPARTMENTS SOMEWHERE ON THAT BUILDING.
AND THE REASON WHY IS CUZ IT IS EVENTUALLY IT'S JUST GONNA BE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER CUZ THAT BUILDING IS OF THE PEOPLE IT BELONGS TO, THE PEOPLE OUR OFFICERS HOUSED THERE.
IT'S THEIR BUILDING AND IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
I KNOW CHIEF AND I WORKED ON THE DESIGN A LITTLE BIT, UH, AS THE TASK FORCE, THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE WORKED ON SOMETHING ON THE GATEWAY SIGN COMING INTO THE BUILDING, UH, HAVING PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER ON IT.
A COUPLE OF BADGES ON IT AS WELL ON EACH SIDE TO, UH, SIGNIFY THAT IT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, I I COULD YOU CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT'S HAPPENING, JERRY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND MAKING SURE THOSE BADGES ARE GOING ON THERE.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING THEM UP AS WELL TO MAKE THEM VISIBLE AT NIGHT, UH, WITH A BLUE LIGHT BEHIND THEM.
BUT I, I THINK I'D BE AMENABLE TO, UH, ADDING POLICE DEPARTMENT TO IT JUST TO SIGNIFY IT.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO, UH, AS WELL AS A CITY IS MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTACT ALL THE, UH, GOOGLE APPS, ANY WEBSITE THAT WE NEED TO, TO MAKE SURE WHEN THEY LOOK UP CITY OF KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT THAT BUILDING COMES UP.
AND IT'S ALSO RECOGNIZED NOT JUST THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON AS A CITY.
SO, UH, BUT IT'S JUST MY IDEAS, UH, THIS IS IS UP TO COUNSEL.
SO WHATEVER COUNSEL WANTS TO DO, I'M GOOD WITH.
UH, BUT I DEFINITELY WANNA KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, UH, NAME ON IT.
CAUSE THAT THAT'S HOW WE'VE ALWAYS ADDRESSED FROM DAY ONE.
BUT ADDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO IT, UH, WOULD NOT, UM, I DON'T THINK AFFECT THAT AT ANY WAY THAT FROM BRADSHAW.
NO, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST, THAT'S MY, SO, SO BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT IT TO BE CALLED THE, UH, THE KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND THEN UNDERNEATH THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT? NO, NO, NO.
UH, SO IT'S STILL THE KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, BUT WE COULD PUT, UH, A LOGO RECOGNIZING THE POLICE, JUST SAYING POLICE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, SOMEWHERE IN THE BUILDING.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY CHANGING THE NAME OF THE BUILDING STILL THE CAL THE CAL PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
BUT TO SIGNIFY THAT OUR POLICE ARE THERE AS WELL, HAVING THAT LOGO, I'M SORRY I'M NOT SPEAKING THE MIC, BUT HAVING THAT LOGO THERE AS WELL, HAVING SOMETHING THAT SAYS POLICE ALSO ON THE BUILDING WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD DO.
I MEAN, IT'S A LARGE BUILDING.
I MEAN, THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN DO THERE.
WELL, MY IDEA WAS GONNA BE LIKE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, SO NOT PUTTING ONE ABOVE THE OTHER OR YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF HAVING IT EQUAL.
UM, CUZ LIKE, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ZO SAID, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS GONNA END UP BEING, YOU KNOW, A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO I DON'T, I CAN'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY HARM IN DOING THAT.
UM, BUT INCORPORATING BOTH, BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK PUT IN HERE ON, ON, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS ENDS.
AND SO I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY FROM THAT.
BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER FROM THAT BUILDING.
OTHER DISCUSSION? UH, CUSTOMER TOBYS, AGAIN, JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS.
STILL KEEP, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER HOME OF THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR CITY OF KYLE POLICE STATION, SOMEWHERE LISTED IN THERE.
AND, UM, IT, IT CAN BE ADDRESSED TO WHERE THERE COULD BE SIGNAGE STATING KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR STATION.
UM, BUT I THINK IN GENERAL, WHAT COUNCIL RIZO WAS, WAS TRYING TO GET AT IS WHEN YOU NAMED IT THAT IT, IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC.
IT IS TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE WE ARE BRINGING AWARENESS THIS MONTH ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THAT PEOPLE CAN COME TO THIS PLACE AND GET SAFETY, WHATEVER IT IS TO FEEL SAFE, TO FEEL LIKE IF THEY'RE, THEY CAN COME INTO AN AREA WHERE THEY CAN, UM, FEEL THAT WAY.
AND THEN ALSO I, HOWEVER THOUGHT WAS IT WAS ALSO GONNA BE A CENTER, A CENTER TO WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN COME TOGETHER FOR TOWN MEETINGS, FOR TRAINING SESSIONS AND SO FORTH.
UM, THAT WAS THE IDEA THAT I ORIGINALLY HAD AS, AS WELL FOR THIS.
AND ALSO BRING OTHER DEPARTMENT AGENCIES TO OUR DEPARTMENT, TO THE BUILDING
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FOR TRAINING STYLE CLASSES AND SO FORTH.UM, BUT UM, AGAIN, THE, I KNOW WE, WE PUSH FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, THE NAME ITSELF.
I, I DO FEEL THAT YES, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES WE CAN ADD KYLE POLICE STATION SOMEWHERE.
UM, I JUST LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FINALLY SEE IT BUILD BEFORE WE START MAKING A LOT OF THESE PHYSICAL CHANGES.
HEY MARGE, MAN, I COULDN'T AGREE WITH, I CAN'T AGREE WITH THAT MORE.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO MAYBE BRING BACK, UM, SIGNAGE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER INCORPORATING, UH, THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT FARAGE ON THE BUILDING.
THERE'S A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL FOR SIGNAGE RELATED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER TO INCORPORATE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH, I'VE GOT, MAY PRESENT HIM.
JUST REAL QUICK, UM, GRIFFIN, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, WOULD YOU MIND IF I CALLED YOU UP FOR PLEASE? I'M GONNA LEAN ON YOUR EXPERIENCE
SO AS AN OFFICER, SO WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS TOO, I THINK USING KYLE TOO MUCH ON THE BUILDING WOULD BE AN OVERKILL.
I I'D PROBABLY BE AMENABLE TO PUTTING POLICE, LIKE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER ON ONE SIDE, POLICE ON THE OTHER.
YOU'D THINK THERE WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE IF WE DID KYLE POLICE OR JUST POLICE ON ONE SIDE.
I'M JUST THINKING IF WE USED KYLE TOO MANY TIMES AS JUST OVERKILL.
YEAH, I DON'T, I I MEAN SINCE WE'RE IN THE CITY OF KYLE, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
SO JUST PUTTING POLICE ON THERE THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING OR UH, CAUSE WE, IT'S A LARGE BUILDING WE'VE GOT SO YOU, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE MAIN NAME FROM PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
SO STAFF NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIRECTION IS HERE.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE DO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, BUT SOMEWHERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING PUT POLICE ON IT ON THE POLICE SIDE, PUT POLICE, UH, UH, THAT THE POLICE ARE UTILIZING RIGHT NOW.
UM, CUZ EVENTUALLY THE ENTIRE BUILDING'S GONNA BE THEIRS, RIGHT? SO, BUT RIGHT NOW LET'S PUT SOMEWHERE ON THAT BUILDING.
IT SAYS POLICE, YOU PUT YOUR EMBLEM FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY, PUT YOUR EMBLEM CITY BADGE EMBLEM.
YEAH, BUT DOESN'T WE CALL 'EM K P D? IT SHOULD SAY CAL POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YEAH, BUT BUT YOU'RE GONNA PUT KYLE TOO MANY TIMES ON THE BUILDING.
WHAT, HOW MANY TIMES? WE'RE JUST SAYING PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, CAL POLICE DEPARTMENT.
CAN WE JUST PUT CITY KYLE UP TOP AND THEN PUT POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
THAT'S LIKE, THAT IS A RENAMING OF THE FACILITY AT ITS ABSOLUTE CORE.
SO I, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, PRETEND LIKE YOU'RE NOT, WE ARE.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY INTENT AND THAT WAS WHAT I MADE A MOTION FOR AND THAT IS WHAT I PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
I'M, WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS I'M NOT JUST TRYING TO TAKE OFF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
SO IT IS BECAUSE IN TRUE FASHION IT IS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
SO IT'S BEING MORE DEFINITIVE INSTEAD OF TOO GENERALIZED, WHICH I THINK CAN CONFUSE PEOPLE WHO MAY BE IN NEED OF, OF SAFETY.
JUST, JUST TO FINISH UP ON MY THOUGHTS, SORRY.
SO JUST TO FINISH UP MY THOUGHT, I THINK, UH, KEEPING IT KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS WHAT I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO AND THEN PUTTING OFF TO THE SIDE IN THE SAME SIZE LETTERING, PUTTING POLICE, UH, CUZ THEY INCORPORATE THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING SO THAT WAY PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
IF YOU DIRECT STAFF TO BRING IT BACK, IT, THE DIRECTION SHOULD BE TO BE NAMES.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS HERE, SO WHAT I I'M NOT ASKING TO RENAME THE BUILDING WHAT I'M ASKING, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
SO REMIND REMEMBER THE MOTION, WHAT I'M ASKING IS TO KEEP THE KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER ON THERE AND THEN OVER ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE.
PUT POLICE ON THERE, UM, THAT THEY'RE OCCUPYING RIGHT NOW UP ON THE BUILDING AS WELL.
SO THAT WAY RESIDENTS KNOW THAT IT'S A POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO THE CAL PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
WELL I THINK WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVEN DIFFERENT IDEAS OF WHAT THE DIRECTION TO STAFF IS FOR THEM TO, TO, TO BRING BACK.
SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STAFF IS GONNA DO, JERRY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I CAN CONFIRM MY, MY MOTION AND THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE IF THAT'S HOW WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
YEAH, IT SHOULD BE TO RENAME IT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT I KNOW YOU WANNA DO.
IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE BIGGEST NAME, YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE LITERAL MASTHEAD ON THE BUILDING AND SAY INSTEAD OF IT BEING THE, UH, THE KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER FOR IT TO READ THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
NO, I WAS JUST, I MY IDEA WOULD BE LIKE CITY OF KYLE AND THEN POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER BECAUSE THAT IS ULTIMATELY WHAT IT IS.
IF I WANTED TO RENAME IT COMPLETELY, I WOULD JUST SAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NAME IT A POLICE DEPARTMENT CUSTOMER BRADSHAW.
I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT ALL, WHAT ALL THIS IS ABOUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR CHIEF AND HIS OPINION
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BEFORE MAKING ANY CHANGES OR VOTING FOR ANY MOTION.I WANT, I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BECOME POLITICAL BECAUSE I THINK PUTTING CHIEF IN THAT SPOT WOULDN'T MAKE IT REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE FOR HIM.
AND, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD TIME AND TIME AGAIN THE SAME THING.
WHEN I CALLED CAPTAIN HERNANDEZ UP HERE, I WANT THIS TO BE A DECISION BASED OFF OF COUNCIL AND OUR THOUGHTS ON HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BUILDING.
AND AND THE REASON I AGREE, THE REASON I AGREE WITH THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS POLITICAL.
BECAUSE I'VE HAD MULTIPLE OFFICERS COMPLAIN THAT IT WAS TO ME THAT IT WAS CALLED A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER WHEN THEY WANTED IT TO BE CALLED KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'VE KNOWN THAT FOR TWO YEARS.
THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY WISH WE HAD NAMED IT DIFFERENT.
THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT I'M DOING.
I'M NOT NAME IT JUST A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I GET I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT WE WENT THROUGH THIS TWO YEARS AGO, WE MADE A DECISION TO NAME IT SOMETHING AT THAT TIME.
YOU COULD PUT, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE MAIN SIGN, UH, AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING A LO PUTTING A SIGN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS DIRECTION OR HAVING IT ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT OR, OR SOME OTHER WAY.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE, WHAT'S ALREADY DESIGNED IN THE APPROVED CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS MOVING FORWARD.
I'M SURE IT'S ALREADY EVEN ORDERED.
THEY'RE DOWN TO JUST A FEW MONTHS AWAY FROM CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO TO GO, TO GO AND CHANGE IT RIGHT NOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT SUCKS AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO HAVE TO DISCUSS IT IN, IN, IN FRONT OF THE OFFICERS.
CAUSE I KNOW THEY ALL HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT THIS.
SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE TIMES.
WELL I MEAN THIS, IF IT WERE ME AND I DISCUSSED IT PRIOR TO, IT WOULD JUST BE A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO SAID WHEN HE SAID HE'S GONNA STOP KICKING THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY'RE GONNA BUILD A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE ALL KIND OF BENDING AS WELL.
LIKE IT WAS THE INTENT TO MAKE IT A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT NOW WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, NOW IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
AND I'M NOT SAYING NO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE SHOULD ALSO NAME IT WHAT IT IS, WHICH IS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
CAN WE, MAY I ASK IF WE HAVE ALREADY ORDERED THE SIGN THAT WE CAN ORDER AN ADDITIONAL SIGN MAYBE ON A SMALLER SCALE, THAT WE CAN PLACE IN ANOTHER VISIBLE AREA OF THE BUILDING THAT SAYS KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WELL, STA THAT IS THE DIRECTION, THAT IS THE MOTION ON THE TAPE.
I'M, I'M NOT SAYING LIKE CHANGE IT, JUST WHATEVER THE MAIN SIGN WAS GONNA GO.
I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE WE'LL FIND A PLACE TO GO.
I'M, I'M AGREEABLE TO ADDING KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND, AND MAKING IT CLEAR, CUZ TO ME IT'S NOT THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT IS A BUILDING AND INSIDE THAT BUILDING, THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESIDES AND CURRENTLY THEY TAKE UP TWO-THIRDS OF THE FACILITY.
EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GONNA TAKE UP ALL THE FACILITY.
BUT THE, SO WHY WOULD WE NOT CALL IT A POLICE DEPARTMENT THEN? WHY WOULD WE NOT REFERENCE THAT? BECAUSE THE, IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
THAT'S THE FACILITY AND INSIDE IT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESIDES, THERE'S NO FEAR THAT LIKE PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA UNDERSTAND NONE.
I I I GENUINELY YOU A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTERS ALL OVER.
UH, BUT SO I'M JUST, WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF WE'LL COMPROMISE ON IT AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING PUT INTO THE MAIN SIGN THAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED AND PROMOTED TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE COULD ADD IT SOMEWHERE.
BUT JUST NOT CHANGING THE NAME OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, BUT ALLOW FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE PROMOTED.
BUT JUST ALLOW FOR THE MAIN NAME THAT WE NAMED IT TO, TO REMAIN.
WHICH IS WHY I THOUGHT, I THINK THE POLICE TO KIND OF MAKE IT NO, WELL MY EXACT IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RENAMING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
SO IT'S NOT THAT I, IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T WANT PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER ON THERE.
I WANT TO NAME THE BUILDING WHAT ULTIMATELY IT IS, WHICH IS A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
AND IF THIS IS JUST DIRECTING STAFF TO, TO BRING BACK RENDERINGS AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TONIGHT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
BUT I GIVE GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BRING BACK SOME IDEAS.
CUZ IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE UPSET THAT YOU THINK THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GONNA BE WRITTEN BIG ALL OVER AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA FORGET THAT IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
I DON'T WANT THAT ANYMORE THAN YOU DO.
I'M JUST READY TO MAKE A NOTE.
DO WE WANNA GET, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY? I, I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THAT TO HER.
I DON'T THINK SHE REALIZED WHAT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT? YEAH, SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST AGAINST IT CUZ I'VE GOT, I DO HAVE A MOTION IN IT.
I SPENT A LOT OF YEARS ON THIS THING, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T, YEAH,
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WE, WE VOTED WITHOUT COUNCIL PARSLEY DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS GONE.WE, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO WAIT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GRAB HER.
I'M NOT TRYING TO STOP THE VOTE.
IT'S JUST MY, IT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I'M S I'M SORRY MAYOR, COULD YOU REPEAT THE, THE MOTION AGAIN ONE MORE TIME PLEASE? THE MOTIONS TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK NEW SIGNAGE THAT, UH, INCORPORATES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INTO THE NAME.
WHAT ON, IS THERE A SECOND? SO YEAH, IT'S, IT'S ON, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECONSIDER IT CUZ IT IS THREE TO TWO.
SO LET'S, LET'S GO BACK TO THE MOTION.
SO WHAT WAS, WHAT'S THE ORIGINAL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT IF WE WANT TO DO THAT.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION PLEASE.
THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE TABLE.
YOU CAN'T CALL THE QUESTION ON.
WELL, OKAY THEN I'D LIKE TO RE WHO'S GONNA RECONSIDER? MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL FLORES CA SECOND BY THE MAYOR IF THERE'S DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
SO, UM, UH, EARLIER I THOUGHT WE WERE VOTING ON A NAME CHANGE ALREADY.
CAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE, UH, CHANGING THE NAME OF THE BUILDING.
SO I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE NAME OF THE BUILDING.
I'M INTERESTED IN, UH, GIVING, YOU KNOW, UH, ADDING TO THE BUILDING.
SO CALLING THE CO PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ROLL YOUR EYES, I'M SORRY.
UH, YOU KNOW, BUT CALLING IT THE KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IS WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS ORIGINALLY GO, BUT I DO, IN SPEAKING WITH OFFICERS, THEY HAVE ASKED TO HAVE ON THEIR END OF THE BUILDING, POLICE WRITTEN ON IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR POLICE.
UM, ALL THE OFFICERS THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO, IT WAS ABOUT PUTTING POLICE ON THAT END.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M UNBEATABLE TO.
AND I, I, I'D LOVE TO SEE PUT ON THERE, UH, EVEN WHATEVER HAPPENS TONIGHT, I'D LOVE TO SEE POLICE ON THAT SIDE BUILDING.
SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE AGENDA ITEM FIRST BEFORE WE DISCUSS.
WHAT'S THAT? SHE MADE THE MOTION IN THIS.
SO SECOND? NO, HE'S MAY OR SECOND.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SO NOW THAT THE ITEM IS BACK FOR, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS FOR, UH, BACK BEFORE US, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IS TO BE CLEAR RIGHT NOW THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, THOUGHTS.
ONE IS TO RENAME IT KYLE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
THE OTHER DISCUSSION THAT I KEEP HEARING IS TO ALLOW FOR THE KYLE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER TO REMAIN, BUT TO INCLUDE ON THE BUILDING ELSEWHERE, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THOSE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THOUGHTS.
STAFF CANNOT MAKE THAT DECISION AS HAS BEEN NOTED.
WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO ARE WE RENAMING IT, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND BRINGING BACK RENDERINGS TO THAT EFFECT? OR ARE WE PUTTING KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT ELSEWHERE ON THE BUILDING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS KNOWN THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EXISTS AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER? SO MY MOTION WAS FOR THE, OR THE FIRST, THE FIRST OF THE TWO.
AND I, AND I'M GONNA SAY THAT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT EVENTUALLY IS GONNA BE ALL POLICE.
AND SO HAVING THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER ON THERE IS, IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS HAVING A POLICE IN THERE.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ONE BIGGER THAN THE OTHER.
SO, SO THE MOTION NEEDS TO BE TO RENAME THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING TO THAT EFFECT.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO, AND THAT'S WHAT COUNSEL COUNSEL'S WILL IS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT OPTION ONE WOULD BE TO CALL IT PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT? JUST ONE WHOLE THING? NO, NO, NO.
SHE'S, UH, YVONNE'S SAYING, KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAFETY CENTER AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
THAT'S WHAT SHE'S I'M WHAT I WAS THINKING OF IS JUST LIKE IN A RAINBOW CITY OF KYLE AND THEN MAYBE LIKE, UH, POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER OR YOU KNOW, POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT'S POLICE, WHATEVER.
THAT'S MY IDEA, RIGHT? AT THE END OF THE DAY, YES, THAT'S MY IDEA.
I WAS ASSUMING THAT WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND LIKE IN A KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE ENTRANCE.
UM, I I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WHAT WOULD IT BE WRONG WITH THAT? NO, THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE'S PROPOSING.
TO RENAME THE, THAT, THAT WILL BE MY MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE A SIGNAGE THAT SAYS PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER AND HAVE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT SAYS CAL POLICE DEPARTMENT
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SECOND.MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? UM, CAN WE BREAK BACK RENDERINGS FOR US TO LOOK AT? YEAH, BUT SO, BUT ARE YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY YOU'RE DOING THAT BUT NOT RENAMING IT? NO, JUST DON'T RENAME IT.
JUST LIKE ADD THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE THAT SAYS COP POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO IF PEOPLE ARE DRIVING BY, THEY KNOW, OH, THERE'S A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
OH, THAT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
JUST ADDING POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE BOTTOM.
KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE BUILDING.
IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN ARCHWAY RIGHT NOW, IT'S DESIGNED BY THE ARCH TO STRAIGHT ACROSS.
I WILL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE, BUT I, I WANNA SEE THE CAL POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A MATTER THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S ALL TOGETHER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE NAME NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, BUT I DO THINK ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THE BUILDING SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO KEEP THE, UH, LOOK, HERE'S WHAT, NO, I'M THE ONLY ONE BEING HONESTY.
OR CAN WE JUST TAKE A VOTE? WHAT, WHAT SHE SAID IS TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL SIGNAGE, BUT FIND A PLACE ON THE BUILDING THAT WE CAN PUT KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON AS WELL ON THE FRONT.
IF, IF YOU GUYS ORIGINAL PASS, THAT'S FINE.
I WANNA SEE CAL POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BIG SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT'S OUR KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS ALMOST LIKE WHAT I SAID, BUT
SO IS THAT A MOTION? CAUSE I CAN SAY THAT IT WAS A MOTION.
I DIDN'T HEAR, I ONLY HEARD LIKE THREE PEOPLE SAY ANYTHING.
WELL, IF YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING, IT'S A YES.