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TODAY IS TUESDAY, DECEMBER 6TH.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER IF WE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF NATION JUSTICE.
IF THE CITY SECRETARY COULD PLEASE CALL ROE, PLEASE.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
WE HAD CALLED TO ORDER.UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
I GUESS I GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 15TH.
SECOND, ALSO THE REGULAR SPECIAL MEETING AND ALSO THE REGULAR MEETING ON THE 15TH AS WELL ON THE 17TH.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADO.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
OKAY.NEXT UP WE HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS.
UH, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING UP THE CITIZENS ALREADY IN THE AGENDA.
THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE ENCOURAGED TO SIGN IN BEFORE MEETING SPEAKERS MAY BE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON THE AGENDA ITEMS OR ANY OTHER MATTERS CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS.
THEY MUST OTHERWISE HAVE A, ALSO HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO THAT HAVE BEEN SIGNED UP.
THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS MS. AINA, CHAPPO, EVANGELINA.
UH, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS TIME.
HOPEFULLY I CAN GET THROUGH IN THREE MINUTES.
IF NOT, HOPEFULLY YOU COULD GIVE ME MORE LATER ON.
IT'S AN ITEM ON REGARDS TO ITEM 35, THE MASTER PLAN.
UH, LAST WEEK THEY HAD THE PNC HAD THEIR MEETING, AND I WAS VERY HAPPY THE WAY THEY, THEY DID THEIR RESEARCH IN THAT PLAN.
UH, I DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT THEY HAD ALSO, SO I WAS VERY GLAD TO HEAR THE THINGS.
BUT, UH, I KNOW THAT 20 YEARS AGO WE HAD THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING READY FOR THE 2030 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THE 20 YEARS AGO, IT SAID, THE REPORT WAS THAT THEY, THE HAD TO START WITH THE HISTORICAL PART OF, OF DOWNTOWN.
AND TO ME, THIS MASTER PLAN THAT THEY HAD SEEMED TO ME LIKE IT SHOULD BE FUTURE IN 20 YEARS, BECAUSE NOTHING HAS CAUGHT UP FROM THE LAST 20 YEARS, REALLY.
AND SO I, I WAS VERY GLAD THAT THEY, THEY WERE NOT HAPPY WITH IT.
THEY HESITATED AND SENT IT TO Y'ALL, AND THEY DID NOT WANNA SEND IT TO Y'ALL.
BUT I THINK THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR BURST THEIR BUBBLE AND SAID THAT YOU ALL WERE EXPECTING IT AND THAT Y'ALL, IT WAS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO GET IT TO YOU.
SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU DENY THIS, THIS, UH, MASTER PLAN.
LOOKS LIKE I'VE ALSO HAD, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, ASSISTANCE COMMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TO ME.
THE NEXT I WOULD HAVE, UH, MS. LILA KNIGHT.
OR YOU WANNA WAIT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WOULD HAVE CINDY, CYNTHIA BARTON.
I'M THE CO OF BARTON WORD BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET AT ONE 13 WEST CENTER STREET.
SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE SUPPOSED TO WEAR SPARKLES AND EVERYTHING.
UH, I'M COMMENTING ON THE, UH, DOWNTOWN PLAN.
UH, IT'S GOT SOME INTERESTING POINTS THAT MIGHT IMPROVE OUR STUFF, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS A LOT MORE THOUGHTS AND INPUT FROM BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED.
I'VE WRITTEN DOWN A FEW, I'LL GO THROUGH 'EM REAL QUICK.
UM, IF YOU'RE TAKING OUT THE, UH, PARKING ALONG MAIN STREET AND CENTER STREETS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TAKING IT ALL OUT.
I PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR ENGINEERING TO HAVE THOSE PUT IN, PAID A LOT.
UM, AND I WORRY ABOUT SO MANY SPACES BEING TAKEN OUT IF YOU DO NOT AT THE SAME TIME, PUT IN PARKING VERY CLOSE ELSEWHERE.
ONE OF MY TENANTS HAS INFORMED ME THAT IF
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THE HANDICAP PARKING IS TAKEN OUT BY THE BUILDING, HE WON'T RENEW HIS LEASE BECAUSE, UM, HE MAINLY DOES ZOOM WORK EXCEPT FOR THE ELDERLY, AND THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE BUILDING.UM, LET'S SEE IF YOU, LIKE I SAID, IF YOU ARE GONNA TAKE OUT ALL THAT PARKING, MAKE SURE THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY THE PUBLIC PARKING IS PUT IN HALF A BLOCK OR A BLOCK AWAY.
UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALLOW OVERNIGHT PARKING BECAUSE I'M THE ONLY PERSON RIGHT AROUND THE SQUARE THAT HAS TENANTS AND THEY REALLY DO NEED THE PARKING.
I PURPOSELY PUT UP ALSO A RING UP SYSTEM.
NOBODY CAN GET IN THE BUILDING UNLESS THEY'RE BUZZED IN.
SO IF THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO WALK ANY DISTANCE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A HUGE CRIME THING HERE.
BUT IT IS SCARY FOR THE WOMEN IN THE BUILDING IF THEY HAVE TO WALK VERY LONG.
UM, IF YOU DO HAVE TO TAKE THE PARKING OUT NEXT TO THE BUILDING, IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAINLY LOOK AT THE ALLEYWAY, WHICH IS NOT PAVED AND GROSS AND EVERYTHING.
IT'S ALSO ABOVE THE GRADE OF THE BUILDING.
IS THERE A WAY TO PUT A HANDICAP PARKING THERE AND POSSIBLY PUT A LOADING ZONE PARKING SPACE? THERE? THERE IS SPACE FOR TWO PARKING SPACES BEHIND MY BUILDING THAT YOU COULD HAVE A LOADING ZONE AND AN ELDERLY PARKING.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT'S REALLY WEIRD, AND I TRIED LOOKING AT THIS THROUGH TEXAS, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL CODE AND ALL THAT KINDA STUFF.
CAN YOU REALLY TELL A BUSINESS HOW LONG THEY HAVE TO BE, UH, OPEN
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.
SO I KNOW THAT THE OTHER TENANT IN, IN MY BUILDING HAS SAID IF THAT GOES INTO EFFECTS, THEY WON'T RENEW BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MANPOWER TO STAY OPEN 10 HOURS A DAY.
AND RIGHT NOW I'M PUTTING IN, OOPS, SORRY.
I WAS GONNA SAY, I, I'M PUTTING IN $110,000 RIGHT NOW BECAUSE CITY ADMINISTRATION HAD ASKED, PLEASE PUT IN MICRO OFFICES.
IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION INSIDE AND THIS COMES UP, IT'S GONNA KILL THE PLANS FOR THE MICRO BUSINESSES THAT YOU GUYS ASKED ME TO PUT IN THERE.
NEXT I HAVE, UH, ASHLEY CONER.
I AM THE OWNER AND PUBLISHER AT THE HAY FREE PRESS.
UM, WE ARE IN THE BUILDING THAT, UH, THE BARTON WORD BUILDING THAT CINDY WAS MENTIONING.
BUT MY, UM, QUESTION OR HOPE TODAY TO GET IS, UM, THIS PAST THURSDAY WHEN YOU GUYS HAD THE SANTA'S ARRIVAL, AND THIS HAS HAPPENED A COUPLE OF OTHER TIMES.
I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS CLOSED THE STREET ON THE, UM, PARK SIDE OF MAIN, YOU CLOSED MAIN STREET ON THE PARK SIDE.
UM, BUT THIS WEEK ON A BUSINESS DAY, MY SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE MY EMPLOYEES PARK WAS ALSO CLOSED, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
SO WE PARKED THERE IN THE MORNING BEFORE EVERYBODY ELSE ARRIVED.
AND THEN BY THE TIME IT WAS TIME FOR US TO LEAVE, WE COULDN'T GET OUT BECAUSE THERE WERE TENTS BEHIND OUR CARS.
UM, WE ALSO COULDN'T GET, I HAD TO HAVE A VENDOR MOVE A BARRICADE SO THAT I COULD EVEN GET OFF THE STREET.
UM, AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO EVENTS THERE AND IT'S CITY PROPERTY AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THE COMMUNICATION OF KNOWING WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THINGS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON'T ALWAYS PUT TENTS ON OUR SIDE OF, OF THE STREET, BUT SOMETIMES THERE ARE TENTS ON OUR SIDE OF THE STREET.
AND SO JUST KNOWING, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT, UM, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES ON THE WEEKENDS IF THERE'S A PARADE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'LL GET A PAPER FROM YOU GUYS THAT SOMEBODY WILL COME BY AND SAY, HEY, IT'S GONNA BE CLOSED.
THIS TIME WE GOT ON WEDNESDAY.
YOU PUT THE SIGNS IN FRONT OF THE PARK THAT SAID, NO PARKING 4:00 AM TO 10:00 PM BUT IF THERE'S A, IF OUR SIGN'S GONNA BE CLOSED, IF WE COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF SIGN.
WE ALSO HAVE RESIDENTS OVER THERE.
SO WE TRY TO BE COGNIZANT OF WHERE THEY'RE PARKING SO THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING UP THEIR PARKING, BUT WE'RE ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT GOING ON AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF COMMUNICATION ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD BE WOULD GO A REALLY LONG WAY.
AND JUST KNOWING, ESPECIALLY ON BUSINESS DAYS, CAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE DURING ON THE WEEKENDS USUALLY.
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HELLO, MY NAME IS JENNIFER AVIZO.I'M, UM, REPRESENTING, I GUESS OUR STREET ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, BUTTON.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, BUTTON CREEK ROAD AND LAYMAN AND DACI.
AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME SO FAR, AND I'M HOPING FOR A CONCLUSION THIS EVENING TO SEE WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO AND IN RESOLVING THE TRAFFIC ISSUES WITH THE STOP SIGN THERE.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF PROGRESS AND NEW BUILDING AND, AND EVERYTHING'S ZONING OUT AND ALL OF OUR FARMLAND IS GONE.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN AND WE ARE HAVING A LOT OF TRAFFIC, UH, RIGHT THERE AT THAT STOP SIGN.
IT'S JUST HASN'T, IT'S NOT MADE FOR, UM, THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC.
AND SO, UM, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY SOLUTION UNTIL THE ROAD PLANT ROAD BOND GOES THROUGH, UM, TO PUT UP SOME LIGHTS THERE OR, UM, WHATEVER SOLUTION WE CAN COME UP WITH TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE EASIER THROUGH THERE.
UH, IT'S, UH, STEVE LAURIE, DO YOU WANNA WAIT TO A PUBLIC HEARING? I WAIT UNTIL, YES, SIR.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? HELLO, COUNSEL.
SHE, AND TONIGHT I AM SPEAKING TO YOU AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE WATER FALLS HOA.
UH, RECENTLY, APPARENTLY, UH, SOME FENCING GOT PUT IN, UH, BEHIND SOME HOMES THAT, UH, BACK ONTO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
AND AS I AM WELL AWARE OF SECURITY AND SUCH, HOWEVER, THEY, UM, ARE PRETTY TALL AND PRETTY UNSIGHTLY IN REGARDS TO RAZOR WIRE, UM, BEHIND YOUR HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BUILT THESE HOUSES AND THEY HAD THIS, AND AROUND THE ORIGINAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THEY MAY HAVE HAD A FENCE, BUT THERE WAS NO RAZOR WIRE.
SO THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY'RE BACKING ONTO, YOU KNOW, TO BE QUITE HONEST, TO PRISON.
AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORS ON WATER, UH, ON THE, UH, FACEBOOK PAGES HAVE ALSO SAID THAT SOME OF THEIR FENCES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED.
SO, UM, I'M ASKING IF YOU GUYS WILL REACH OUT TO THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE, UH, BACKING ONTO THE FENCES TO SEE ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, THEIR OR, YOU KNOW, THEIR OFFENSES, UH, WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, DONE OR RECTIFIED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
THE OTHER THING IS SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS ARE SAYING THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED.
THE HOA WAS NOT NOTIFIED EITHER.
SO, UM, AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO, BUT I THINK THAT'S COMMON COURTESY THAT WHEN YOU'RE GONNA PUT SOMETHING UP AGAINST SOMEBODY'S FENCE THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
SO, UM, UH, JUST KIND OF TO LET THE CITY KNOW THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I'M ALSO GONNA ASK, SINCE I KNOW A LOT OF THE HOMEOWNERS, IF THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT, THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE WATCHING ON TV.
UM, IF WE CAN ALSO MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE TOP OF THE, UH, THE AGENDA FOR THAT AREA SO THAT THEY CAN BE ABLE TO GO TO SLEEP IN A TIMELY MANNER.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? MAKE SURE YOU ALSO FILL OUT ONE OF THE FORMS AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE.
I'M GLAD ACTUALLY SHE, SHE CAME UP HERE AND SPOKE BECAUSE I'M ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE, UH, THE BARBED WIRE FENCING.
UM, SO I KNOW THIS ISN'T A, A HUGE CONCERN TO MANY, UH, ONLY BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY FIVE HOUSES THERE THAT IT ACTUALLY AFFECTS.
UM, AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANNA THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, UM, WHO WAS ACTUALLY AT MY DOOR THE OTHER DAY, UM, KIND OF SHEDDING SOME LIGHT ON, ON THESE ITEMS. UM, SO JUST THINK FOR FOR A SECOND.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING I'VE DONE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE IS I GRABBED MY CUP OF COFFEE AND THEN I LOOK OUT MY FRENCH DOORS AND, AND HAVE A PRETTY GOOD VIEW UP UNTIL THE LAST MAYBE YEAR AND SEVERAL MONTHS OF THIS IMPROVEMENT OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, I RECENTLY HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY.
I'VE BEEN GONE FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS, AND I COME BACK AND I DO THE SAME THING WITH MY COFFEE IN THE MORNING.
AND I COME TO REALIZE THAT THE, THE POST ARE STICKING OUT FOR THE, THE BARB WIRE FENCING.
NOW, FROM THE TOP OF THE PICKET WHERE THE PICKET STOPS, I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER TWO TO THREE FEET
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OF, OF FENCING ALONE, NOT INCLUDING THE BARB WIRE.SO PER OUR HOA AGREEMENT IN WATER LEAF FALLS, I CAN'T EVEN HAVE A, A BASKETBALL GOAL THAT'S BEING SEEN FROM THE ROADWAY.
HOWEVER, WHEN I TURN ONTO MY ROAD, THAT'S THE FIRST THING I SEE IS, IS THE BEGINNING OF A PRISON YARD.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UNSIGHTLY.
IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DEFINITELY GONNA, UH, BE AN ISSUE IF I EVER CHOOSE TO SELL MY HOME.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT MAINTAINING THE, THE MARKET VALUE OF THOSE FIVE SPECIFIC HOMES IN THAT AREA.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW THIS ISN'T HUGE AND IT'S, IT DOESN'T AFFECT EVERYBODY, BUT FIVE OF THOSE HOMES ARE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE LIVED HERE LONGER THAN I HAVE.
AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS.
I'VE ENJOYED EVERYTHING ABOUT KYLE.
I LOVE THE CHANGES THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING TO KYLE.
AND I WOULD HATE TO LEAVE JUST BECAUSE THE MOMENT I LOOK IN MY BACKYARD, IT LOOKS LIKE A, THE BEGINNING STAGES OF A PRISON YARD, I MEAN, IT'S UNSIGHTLY.
AND I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
IF YOU WERE NEAR HOME, HOW THAT WOULD LOOK.
AND, AND WE ALL HAVE CHILDREN, SO NOT ONLY IS IT A, AN UNSIGHTLY THING, BUT IT'S ALSO, UM, A SAFETY ISSUE AS THEY'RE BEGINNING TO CLIMB.
SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR MUCH, UH, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION TO THIS, EVEN IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, PAYING FOR THE ADDITIONAL FENCING OR SOME HIGHER PICKETS THAT SIMPLY COVER IT.
I REALIZE THAT THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR ALONG THE, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.
BUT IF, IF WE COULD GET SOME KIND OF LARGER FENCING OR SOMETHING PAID FOR, UM, JUST TO COVER THAT UP, I, I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAYS.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO CAME UP? IF YOU HAVEN'T, FILL OUT A FORM, MAKE SURE YOU DO AND TURN IT INTO THE CITY SECRETARY.
WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
[IV. Agenda Order]
NEXT, WE HAVE THE AGENDA ORDER.IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ANY ITEMS UP TO THE FRONT? MR. DUB? YES.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZKO, LIKE TO BRING UP AGENDA ITEM 37.
COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES KALE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS 22 AND 23 WITH REGARDS TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER SEATING.
SO THE MOTION WAS TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, MOVE UP ITEM NUMBER 18 AND TO POSTPONE 22 AND 23.
UM, AND THEN ALSO SOME MEMBERS, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS REQUESTED THAT WE DISCUSS THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL THE WAY AT THE TOP, BUT IF WE CAN JUST PUSH IT UP, THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT AS WELL.
WHAT, WHAT LINE ITEM IS THAT ONE? SORRY, LOOKING.
ANYBODY ELSE WHEN IT COMES TO THE POSTPONE OF ITEM NUMBER 22 AND 23, CAN I GET A MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22 AND 23 SECOND.
OKAY, IS, UH, PROP FORTH A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES KALE, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THAT WE POSTPONE THESE OTHER TWO ITEMS UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? THOSE A FAVOR SAY AYE.
AS WELL, COULD MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
WE HAD ALSO DISCUSSED MOVING UP, UM, ITEM NUMBER 26.
AND ALSO, UM, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO, UH, POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 28.
SO STAFF WOULD POSTPONE NUMBER 28.
FOR THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, UH, MAYOR MITCHELL'S NOT HERE, SO I'M COVERING FOR 'EM.
I'M COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL, TO BE, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE UP 37, 22, 35, AND 26.
ANY OTHERS? OKAY, WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THE, SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND DO THE PRESENTATIONS OR, OKAY.
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Presentation of the Graduates of the Kyle Citizens Police Academy Class #14. ~ Jeff Barnett, Chief of Police
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Cecilia Buckner
Brian Fox
Brook Gosselin
Ronda Romike
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Gaylynne Carson Joan Fox Bear Heiser Dorris Reyes |
Marie Michelle Cohen Greg Gillenwaters Candy Lonie Stephanie Santa Ana |
Steven Cook Jennifer Gonzalez Marta Lyons Dale Watson |
| Miguel Zuniga |
]LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THE PRESENTATIONS.
UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PRESENTATION OF THE GRADUATES OF THE KYLE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.
UH, THIS WILL BE CHIEF, UH, BARNETT.
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VERY MUCH.UH, COUNSEL JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE.
FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE CALLS TO CELEBRATE.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE ALL DRESSED UP FOR IT.
TONIGHT IS A COST FOR CELEBRATION FOR US AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, AS YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES BEFORE, ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OUR WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO KNOW OUR COMMUNITY, FOR THEM TO KNOW US, AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SHARE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, ALL ASPECTS OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY, AND GIVE THEM A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, WHAT WE DO, WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER, AND, UH, TO BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP.
SO IT'S, IT'S EXTREMELY VITAL TO US.
ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE DO THAT, PROBABLY THE BEST, IS OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.
THIS IS OUR 10TH YEAR AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT ALREADY, BUT THIS IS OUR 10TH YEAR OF CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMIES.
I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING EXTREMELY FAST FOR THAT.
AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S AMAZING.
THEY HAVE SPENT THE LAST 12 WEEKS WITH US AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GETTING TO KNOW ALL OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, GETTING PRESENTATIONS AND PARTICIPATION FROM ALL OF THE VARIOUS DIVISIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT.
REMEMBER, THAT INCLUDES ANIMAL CONTROL, CODE ENFORCEMENT RECORDS, DISPATCH SERVICES, YOU NAME IT.
THE, THE GAMBIT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE OFFER AT THE PD.
THEY HAVE, UH, BEEN ABLE TO HEAR FROM THE EXPERTS IN THAT FIELD TO PARTICIPATE IN EXERCISES AND TRAINING.
AND I HOPE THEY'VE HAD FUN ALONG THE WAY.
WE HAVE SOME VERY WONDERFUL POLICE OFFICERS AND, AND STAFF MEMBERS THAT KEEP IT LIVELY AND ENTERTAINING.
UH, WE HEAR BACK FROM THEM ON THEIR FEEDBACK THAT THEY LOVE ALL THE COMRADERY.
AND WHAT WE HOPE THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HOPE THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED LIFELONG FRIENDSHIPS WITH THE MEMBERS OF OUR ACADEMY, AND WE ARE HERE TO RECOGNIZE THEM AS THEY GRADUATE.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE BLUE AND SOME OF THE WHITE SHIRTS THAT YOU SEE AROUND THE ROOM.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME THAT, THAT ARE HERE IN THEIR, THEIR TRADITIONAL CLOTHES, UM, THAT ARE MEMBERS OF OUR CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY ALUMNI ASSOCIATION.
IN THE BLUE, THE UNIT, THE WHITE UNIFORM ARE MEMBERS OF YOUR CITIZENS ON PATROL.
WE ALL SEE THEM THROUGHOUT TOWN DOING GREAT WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN YOU SEE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE TO ALL, TO SHOW SUPPORT AND RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR PERSONAL TIME TO COME DOWN AND JOIN US AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD FOR A FEW BRIEF WORDS IS OUR CLASS LEADER, UH, WHO ORGANIZES THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY AND IS OUR LIAISON WITH THE CPA ALUMNI.
AND THAT IS OFFICER JAMES PLANT.
JAMES PLANT OFFICER WITH KYLE PD.
UM, I CAN'T REALLY FOLLOW UP WITH CHIEF CUZ CHIEF ALWAYS SAYS ALL THE GREAT THINGS, BUT, UM, AGAIN, OUR PROGRAM STARTED BACK IN 2012, UM, WITH JUST AN IDEA, CHIEF BARNETT'S IDEA, LIKE, HEY, LET'S PUT ONE OF THESE TOGETHER.
SO IT'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, UM, CHANGES OVER THE YEARS, BUT IT'S BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM AND WE ENJOY HAVING EVERYBODY IN IT.
AGAIN, IT'S 10 YEARS AND, UH, WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM, JUST A LITTLE FUN FACT.
OUR FIRST CLASS WAS HELD AT PUBLIC WORKS IN THE TRAINING ROOM, AND THEN AT THE CITY LIBRARY BEFORE WE HAD A, A, UM, A PLACE TO HOST OUR OWN.
BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO A NEW PD NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR'S CLASS.
ONE THING THAT WE'LL BE ASKING THESE, UH, GRADUATES TONIGHT IS TO PLEASE CONSIDER CONTINUING YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH US, UH, AND JOINING IN SUBSEQUENT TRAINING.
CONSIDER JOINING THE ADVANCED CLASS.
CONSIDER JOINING THE CITIZENS ON PATROL, AND MOST DEFINITELY JOIN THE ALUMNI ASSOCIATION AND LET'S CONTINUE THAT PARTNERSHIP.
SO WITH, UH, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADO, WE WILL CALL OUR GRADUATES FORWARD AND WE HOPE AT THE END TO GET ONE GROUP PITCHER WITH COUNCIL, IF THAT'S PERMISSIBLE.
IF I CAN CALL MY COMMAND STAFF SERGEANT BONE AND COMMANDER GRIFFITH TO COME JOIN ME AS WELL, IF THEY'RE HERE.
CECILIA BUCKNER, GALEN CARSON.
MICHELLE, STEVE COOK, BRIAN FOX.
JOAN FOX, JENNIFER GONZALEZ, BEAR, HEISER, CANDY LONNIE,
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MARTA LYONS.LAST BUT NOT LEAST, COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL KINDS OF STAGGERED IT'S INT SO WE'RE DOING BACK.
ON THE COUNT OF 3, 1, 2, 3, THEY'RE GONNA RETIRE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHERE WE HAVE A SMALL RECEPTION, UH, FOR THEM.
AND PASS ON A FEW MORE WORDS FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION.
SO GROUP WILL SEE YOU ALL BACK.
OFFICER, WILL YOU, UH, BE CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU.
THANKS FOR SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
HAVE TO TAKE THE HAT OFF THIS GAME WAR.
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Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager
- Santa's Arrival Recap Dec. 1
- Santa Rides in Kyle - Dec. 13-15
- 25 Days of Christmas - Dec. 1-25
- Comprehensive Plan Update
- Cookies with Santa - Dec. 14
- Page Turners Book Club - Dec. 15
- Handmade Gifts for Teens and Adults - Dec. 17
- Team Kyle Updates
UH, THIS WILL BE, UM, JAR HENDRICKS, MAYOR COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO INVITE UP FIRST, MARIANA ESPINOZA, OUR PARKS DIRECTOR, MARIANA MAYOR, COUNCIL MARIA ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TO SANTA'S ARRIVAL ON THURSDAY.
IT WAS A GREAT NIGHT WITH OVER 15, UM, PERFORMANCES FROM LOCAL SCHOOLS.
AND, UH, WE'LL JUST SHOW YOU THE RECAP VIDEO GRANT.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA LIGHT IT UP, BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP.
GRANT ALWAYS SAYS AWESOME OF THE VIDEOS.
UM, AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE HERE,
UH, A REMINDER THAT NEXT WEEK SANTA CLAUS WILL BE DRIVING AROUND TOWN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, PARKS AND POSSIBLY FIRE, UM, FROM SIX TO NINE, THE 13TH TO THE 15TH ON THE 13TH.
HE'LL BE IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF KYLE ON THE 14TH, THE SOUTHEAST PART OF KYLE, AND ON THE 15TH, THE WEST SIDE OF KYLE.
AND THEN THE LIGHTS WILL BE ON EVERY SINGLE NIGHT DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER.
UM, YOU CAN GO ONLINE TO CITY OF KYLE.COM/UM, 25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS AND GET THE CALENDAR.
UH, THERE ARE BOTH FREE SANTA CLAUS PICTURE
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DAYS AND PAID SANTA CLAUS PICTURE DAYS.UM, AND SANTA CLAUS WILL ALSO BE AT THE TRAIN DEPOT FOR PHOTOS ON DECEMBER 17TH AS WELL.
NEXT UP IS WILL ATKINSON, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR, TOOK OVER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
WILL ATKINSON DIRECTOR PLANNING FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE RECORD, EXCUSE ME.
UH, WE WERE AT A, AN ATTENDANCE AT SANTA'S ARRIVAL.
MY STAFF WERE, UM, THEY WERE, UM, THEY PASSED IT OVER A HUNDRED FLYERS AND COORDINATED SURVEYS ON SITE FOR THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
UM, COM UPCOMING EVENTS THAT WE HAVE.
UH, THIS COMING SATURDAY, WE HAVE THE COCO AND COMP PLAN, WHICH IS, UH, DECEMBER 10TH FROM 9:00 AM TO 12:00 PM AT THE PUBLIC WORKS TRAINING FACILITY RIGHT ACROSS FROM, UH, KYLE DONUTS THERE ON EAST FM ONE 50.
UH, WE ARE COORDINATING WITH HAY, C I S D TO INCLUDE INFO AND SCHOOL NEWSLETTERS.
THEY SENT IN EMAIL OUT ON THE EVENING ON, UH, DECEMBER THE SECOND TO THE ENTIRE DISTRICT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO APPLY TO THE SURVEY FOR THE COMPLIMENT.
UH, AT THIS TIME, AS OF YESTERDAY AT NOON, WE'VE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY 376 SURVEY RESPONSES, UH, TO THE VARIOUS, THE SURVEY AND EXERCISES THAT WE'VE HAD ALREADY.
UM, AS OF FRIDAY, WE HAD 265, SO JUST OVER THE LAST TWO OR THREE DAYS, IT'S JUMPED OVER A HUNDRED.
SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE HOPE TO KEEP MOVING THAT FORWARD IN THAT MANNER.
UH, SO FAR WE'VE, UH, DISTRIBUTED APPROXIMATELY 750 CARDS PROMOTING KYLE 20 THIRTY.COM AND THE SURVEY, THIS CURRENT SURVEY WILL RUN THROUGH DECEMBER 30TH, AND SURVEY NUMBER TWO IS EXPECTED TO RUN THROUGH JANUARY 1ST THROUGH FEBRUARY 28TH OF NEXT YEAR.
UM, I BRIEFLY SPOKE TO RACHEL ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT.
UM, AND I, AND I DUNNO IF SHE FORWARDED THAT TO YOU YET, BUT WE HAD, UM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN THE SURVEY, UM, KIND OF HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING, UM, THE ANSWERS THAT THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT.
SOME ARE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THEM OR, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD LEAVE A BLANK SO THEY COULD LIKE, FILL IN THEIR OWN RESPONSES, UM, THAT WOULD GIVE A MORE TRUE REPRESENTATION OF, UH, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD STILL DO.
WE WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY COORDINATING WITH THEM ON THAT.
THEY'RE A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT CHANGING UP JUST THIS CLOSE TO THE END OF THE FIRST SURVEY ROUND, JUST BECAUSE IT MIGHT ACTUALLY SKEW THE DATA.
SO WE'RE TALKING TO THEM RIGHT NOW ABOUT INCLUDING IT IN THE NEXT ONE THAT LAUNCHES ON JANUARY 1ST, JUST SO WE DON'T RISK SKEWING ANY OF THE DATA THAT WE'VE ALREADY COLLECTED.
NEXT UP IS COLLEEN TYRANNY, OUR DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.
GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL, COLLEEN TYRANNY, LIBRARY DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
UM, WE HAVE SOME EXCITING EVENTS COMING UP AT THE LIBRARY.
UM, ON THE 14TH WE HAVE, UH, STORY TIME WITH SANTA AT 10 30 IN THE MORNING.
SANTA WILL READ A STORY, UH, SHARE COOKIES, THERE'LL BE CRAFTS, AND, UM, UH, PEOPLE CAN TAKE A PICTURE WITH SANTA AS WELL.
UM, ON THE 15TH, WE ARE HAVING OUR, UM, ADULT BOOK CLUB.
UH, IT'S THE, THE BOOK THAT, UH, WAS READ WAS WHERE THE CRA DEAD SING, AND THEY'RE JUST SHOWING THE MOVIE, UH, ONCE A YEAR.
THEY DO A BOOK AND MOVIE, UH, PARTNER PAIRING, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE.
IT IS OPEN TO EVERYONE, ALL ADULTS.
EVEN IF YOU DID NOT READ THE BOOK, YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME SEE THE MOVIE.
THERE'LL BE SNACKS, IT'S AT 6:00 PM AND, UM, IT'S, IT WILL PROBABLY RUN ABOUT TWO HOURS.
OUR ADULT SERVICES LIBRARIAN, MICHAEL KAUFMAN LYNCH, WILL BE RUNNING THAT.
UM, AND THEN ON THE 17TH, WE HAVE AN EVENT FOR, UM, ADULTS AND TEENS WHERE, UM, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE UP TO THREE CRAFTS, UH, TO GIVE OUT IF THEY WOULD LIKE AS HOLIDAY GIFTS.
SO THERE'S NO CHARGE OF COURSE.
AND, UH, IT GIVES PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME NICE HANDMADE GIFTS, UH, TO GIVE OUT FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY, THE CRAFTS THAT ARE GONNA BE MADE ARE, UM, UH, POLAROID HANGING FRAME, A, A PARA CORD BRACELET AND A TYPE OF A MASON JAR BAKE MIX.
UM, AND EACH PARTICIPANT WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, MAKE UP TO THREE CRAFTS TO TAKE TO GIVE TO LOVED ONES OR FRIENDS FOR
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THE HOLIDAYS.UM, IT HAS BEEN MY SEVENTH DAY IN THE LIBRARY AS THE DIRECTOR.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT IS A PLEASURE WORKING FOR THE CITY OF KYLE AND WITH AN AMAZING STAFF, AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO GIVING YOU LOTS MORE WONDERFUL REPORTS FROM THE LIBRARY.
NEXT UP IS ME, GARY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER.
WE CONTINUE TO GROW TEAM KYLE.
SO I LIKE TO ANNOUNCE OUR, OUR, OUR NEWEST TIRES.
WE HAVE, UH, TWO METER TECHNICIANS THAT ARE COMING ON BOARD.
DAVID MOSQUITO AND ERIC REYES.
WE HAVE AN ASSISTANT WASTEWATER PLANT OPERATOR, DEVON SEOR.
UH, JESUS CHAVEZ IS OUR NEW STREET CONSTRUCTION TECHNICIAN.
AND PIA KELLE IS A NEW POLICE OFFICER FOR US, BUT NOT TO STOP THERE.
WE CONTINUE TO GROW INTERNALLY TOO WITH STAFF THAT'S BEEN ON BOARD FOR A WHILE AND WORKING THEIR WAY UP THE LADDER.
JENNIFER WOOD IS, UH, BEEN PROMOTED TO LEAD TELECOMMUNICATIONS OFFICER, AS HAS BRONSON ARM AND RICHARD JUAREZ HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO WASTEWATER TECHNICIAN TWO.
DIAMOND MARTINEZ HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO STREET CONSTRUCTION TECH TWO.
PHILIP PRESSLER HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO PUBLIC WORKS INSPECTION SUPERVISOR BO GRANTHAM HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO STORMWATER DRAINAGE FOREMAN.
BRIANNA EZ HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DIVISION SUPERVISOR WITHIN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND JOEL
AND PLEASE JOIN ME AND CONGRATULATE ALL OF OUR NEW HIRES AND OUR INTERNAL PROMOTIONS.
AND MAYOR COUNCIL, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
AND WELL WELCOME A BOARD AND LET ME GIVE A REAL RECAP, UH, MARIANA, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SANTA ARRIVAL, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND YOUR TEAM FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB OUT THERE.
I WAS GONNA SAY THANK YOU, BUT YOU AND AMY WERE JUST RUNNING AROUND LOOK CRAZY, SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT ON POINT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE REMEMBER TO, UH, VOTE TO EXCUSE, UH, HER MITCHELL'S ABSENCE.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, UM, I'M FILLING IN FOR MAYOR MITCHELL TODAY, AND SO I WANTED TO, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE MAYOR MITCHELL FROM THIS, UH, COUNCIL MEETING FROM DECEMBER 6TH SECOND.
WE HAVE A SECOND MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY TO, TO GIVE, UH, MAYOR MITCHELL AN EXCUSED ABSENCE FROM THIS MEETING.
DO I DO WE HAVE A REASON WHY? I'M SORRY.
I BELIEVE THAT HE WAS OUT ILL.
I THINK THERE'S AN SERIOUS ILL FLU GOING AROUND.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT HE HAS ON THAT END.
SO, UH, ALL THE FAVORS SAY AYE.
[7. Presentation of the 2022 Road Bond status update by the city's consultant, Joe Cantalupo, K. Friese + Associates. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]
UP WE HAVE, UH, NUMBER SEVEN, PRESENTATION OF THE 2002 ROAD BOND STATUS UPDATE BY THE CITY'S, UH, CONSULTANT, JOE CAP REESE AND ASSOCIATES COUNCIL.MY NAME IS, UH, JOE KAPO, AND I WORK FOR K FRIES AND ASSOCIATES.
UM, AND I'M SERVING AS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE TEAM THAT IS, UH, LEADING, UH, THE BOND PROGRAM FOR YOU.
A AS WE PUT, UM, THE NEXT SLIDE UP, UP, DO I HAVE THE ABILITY TO, IS IT HERE? SORRY.
UM, I'LL LEAVE THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S A REMINDER AS TO WHAT, UH, THE COUNCIL PUT FORTH TO VOTERS AND WHAT THE VOTERS APPROVED.
AND, AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS, UM, I'LL JUST EXPLAIN THAT.
UH, A A GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, UM, OR, OR A GE AS WE CALL IT, UH, WE'RE SERVING AS AN EXTENSION OF STAFF, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE CITY CONTRACTED WITH US TO HELP, UM, SHEPHERD THESE PROJECTS THROUGH THE DESIGN, UH, PHASES AND TO GET THEM THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION.
AND WHAT I'M GONNA DO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES IS JUST TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'VE BEEN AS A REMINDER AND AS A STARTING POINT, AND THEN WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE.
I'M ALSO, UH, GONNA ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT OF, OF, OF MAYBE GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL IN TERMS OF, UM, MAYBE GOING, UM, ORGANIZING A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN GET INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THINGS, SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE NEED YOU TO, TO WEIGH IN ON EARLY ON.
UM, AND, AND THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY WORK THAT PEOPLE SEE, RIGHT? WE, WE DID A LOT TO HELP THE CITY GET READY, UH, FOR THE VOTE.
AND, AND THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS WE HELPED, UM, THE CITY SELECT DESIGN
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CONSULTANTS TO ACTUALLY GO DESIGN THOSE PROJECTS.REMEMBER, OUR CHARGE IS TO OVERSEE AND TO REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT THE DESIGN ENGINEERS DO, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT, GET DONE CONSISTENTLY AND, AND ACCORDING, YOU KNOW, TO CITY'S GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND, AND, AND ALL THE GUIDELINES AND, AND POLICIES THAT, THAT YOU HAVE.
SO BACK IN APRIL, WE HELP YOU SELECT THE DESIGN CONSULTANTS.
UM, WE WORKED WITH THEM THROUGH AUGUST TO GET, UH, WHAT WE CALL PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS.
AND AS A REMINDER, WE, WE DID, UM, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS BECAUSE THEY ALLOW, UH, COST ESTIMATES AND SCOPES TO BE DEVELOPED WITH A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL.
AND, AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT, RIGHT, UH, WITH CITY STAFF WAS THE FACT THAT, UH, COUNCIL HAD A STATED DESIRE TO TRY AND BURY ALL THE UTILITIES, UM, AND ALSO ROUNDABOUTS FIRST POLICY.
AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT SOME OF THE PROJECTS, UM, WOULD HAVE SOME INTERESTING CHALLENGES.
AND, AND, AND SO INSTEAD OF DOING BACK OF THE ENVELOPE COST ESTIMATES AND THEN ASKING COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IT AND ASKING THE VOTERS TO CONSIDER IT, WE, WE WERE ASKED TO DO WAS TO HELP GET THESE PRELIMINARY ENGINE ENGINEERING REPORTS DONE.
SO WE'D HAVE A HIGHER DEGREE IN FAITH IN THE, IN, IN, IN THE SCHEDULES.
IT'S, SO IN AUGUST, AFTER WE GOT THAT DONE, THE CITY CALLED FOR THE BOND ELECTION.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, KNOW BETWEEN AUGUST AND NOVEMBER, THE CITY DID WHAT IT DOES TO TRY AND EXPLAIN TO FOLKS ITS COMMUNITY WHAT THE BOND WOULD COVER AND WHAT IT INCLUDED.
AND THEN IN NOVEMBER, OF COURSE, THE BOND PROGRAM WENT TO A VOTE AND IT WAS APPROVED.
AND, YOU KNOW, DURING THAT INTERIM TIME WE DID, WE DIDN'T DO A LOT, WE JUST SPENT SOME TIME MAKING SURE THAT, UM, ALL YOUR GUIDELINES AND UM, REQUIREMENTS WERE IN ORDER AND THAT WE COULD GET A GOOD HEAD START WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS.
WE RECENTLY LAST WEEK HAD A, UM, AN INTERNAL KICKOFF PROGRAM WITH, UH, MEETING RATHER WITH CITY STAFF.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS WITH THE BOND BEING PASSED, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IT OFF ON A, ON A GOOD FOOT.
WE GOT A GOOD START AND THAT WE UNDERSTOOD BETWEEN OUR TEAM AND WHAT THE CITY EXPECTED OF US IN TERMS OF ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND SO THAT LEAVES US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WE START TO LOOK FORWARD.
SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A MASTER SCHEDULE.
WE'RE DOING TWO IMPORTANT THINGS, AND THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT MASTER SCHEDULE.
THERE'S, UH, WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO UNDERSTAND HOW, UH, QUICKLY AND IT, WHAT PACE BOND FUNDS CAN BE USED.
UH, BOND FUNDS WERE NOT AVAILABLE THE DAY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE VOTE, UH, PASSED.
UH, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE DEMANDS OF EACH PROJECT.
WE KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT, RIGHT, THAT THE COUNCIL WILL WEIGH IN AGAIN ON PRIORITIES.
IT'S OUR JOB, RIGHT, TO HELP YOU ALL FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO MATCH YOUR PRIORITIES AGAINST THE DEMANDS OF THE PROJECT.
AND WHAT I MEAN, THE DEMANDS OF THE PROJECT IS WE WILL START UNLESS WE'RE GIVEN DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THE DESIGN OF ALL THE PROJECTS IS THE SAME TIME, BUT SOME ARE, YOU KNOW, WILL TAKE LESS TIME THAN OTHERS.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO MARRY, AGAIN WITH THE PROJECT'S NEED AND REQUIRE WITH COUNCIL PRIORITIES, WITH HOW QUICKLY, RIGHT? THE CITY CAN DRAW DOWN THE BOND FUNDS.
AND SO WHEN I SAY THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING A MASTER SCHEDULE, IT IT, IT INCLUDES LOOKING AT TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ART THAT GOES INTO IT.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING IS THAT WE'RE SCOPING THE DESIGN WORK.
AND I'M GONNA SWITCH SLIDES SO YOU CAN GET A, A HEAD START TO WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE MEETING WITH ALL THE DESIGN ENGINEERS.
THEY DID THOSE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS, AND WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF SCOPING THE NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN.
AND FOR MOST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WILL INVOLVE A SCHEMATIC PHASE, WHICH MEANS WE TAKE THOSE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS AND WE BRING THEM TO A, UH, WHAT WE CALL IN THE INDUSTRY, A 30% PLAN.
AND THAT PLAN, THAT SCHEMATIC PLAN, THAT 30% PLAN GIVES US A VERY, VERY, VERY HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE.
IS THAT THE EXACT ALIGNMENT OF THE ROAD, WHAT WILL HAVE TO GO IN, UH, TO LIKE UTILITY RELOCATIONS AND WHETHER OR NOT ALL THE THINGS WE WANT TO BUILD INTO A ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE, THE PROJECTS HAVE ROUNDABOUTS INDICATED WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WILL, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO WORK.
SO IT, IT IS AGAIN, IT IT A SCHEMATIC, IT'S PRIMARY PURPOSE IS TO, TO IDENTIFY ALL THOSE ISSUES IN GREATER DETAIL AND TO PUT SOME PRECISION BEHIND THE ALIGNMENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT BEING FIGURED OUT WHEN YOU GO INTO
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THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS PS E, WHICH IS REALLY PLAN SPECIFICATIONS AND ESTIMATES.AND THAT'S REALLY READYING THE PLANS FOR BID THAT, UM, MULTIPLE LAYERS OF DETAIL AND MULTIPLE LAYERS OF PRECISION.
AND SO THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THEIR NATURE AND BECAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF WORK THAT WAS DONE DURING THAT PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT PHASE, THAT WE BELIEVE CAN GO RIGHT INTO THAT PSE PHASE.
SO THAT WOULD SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND THAT WOULD SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
THERE ARE ONE OR TWO PROJECTS WHERE WE WILL PROBABLY DO AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF A SCHEMATIC BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A COUPLE OF THINGS NEED TO BE FIGURED OUT, BUT IT WON'T NEED A FULL BLOWN EFFORT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW.
WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS IF WE CAN GO INTO A WORKSHOP WITH COUNCIL SOMETIME IN JANUARY, THAT IS OUR, OUR WISH, OUR ASK IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.
AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS TO DRILL INTO THE PROJECTS WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BY THEN, WE WILL HAVE A DRAFT OF THOSE SCOPES OF WORK FROM THE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND WE'LL VERIFY THE SCHEDULE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
REMEMBERING THAT THIS IS SORT OF AN EDITOR OF PROCESS, RIGHT? WHEN WE GO FROM THOSE ERS, THOSE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS TO LIKE THE SCHEMATIC OR THE PS E PHASE, WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE AGAIN AND AS WE GET MORE DETAILS, WE REFINE IT AND SOMETIMES WE SAVE TIME AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T.
BUT WE WANT TO BEGIN TO SCOPE THOSE PROJECTS.
NOW WE'RE HOLDING MEETINGS ALL THIS WEEK WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS REMOTELY AND WE'RE GIVING THEM THEIR CHARGE TO DEVELOP THOSE SCOPES OF WORK.
WE WILL HAVE VERY, VERY GOOD, IF NOT CLOSE TO COMPLETE SCOPES OF WORK.
THE LOGIC IS ONCE WE SEE SHE WHAT THAT ALL LOOKS LIKE, THEN WE WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH COUNCIL IN A WORKSHOP, GO THROUGH WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, TAKE YOU THROUGH ANY DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PROJECTS NEED TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT.
THERE WERE A FEW PROJECTS THAT HAD OPTIONS.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THOSE OPTIONS AND HAVE YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE'LL BE ABLE TO REFINE THE MASTER SCHEDULE AND THE CASH FLOW WITH CITY STAFF.
AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, AGAIN, A MASTER SCHEDULE FOR THE PROGRAM.
AND THEN WE WILL, WE'LL KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.
IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE IN JANUARY, THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL GO BACK TO THE DESIGN ENGINEERS, HAVE THEM MAKE ANY LAST MINUTE TWEAKS TO THE SCOPE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ACCURATE.
AND THEN WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS COME BACK IN FEBRUARY TO CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE THEM CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN CONTRACTS, THE NEXT PHASE OF THE DESIGN CONTRACTS FOR THE PROJECTS.
AND, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN A NUTSHELL.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO IT THIS EVENING OR, BUT AS SOON AS YOU CAN, LET US KNOW IF A WORKSHOP IN JANUARY IS POSSIBLE AND WHEN YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE THAT BEFORE.
MAY ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER, PARSLEY.
UM, SO ARE WE HAVING DIFFERENT DESIGN ENGINEERS FOR EACH PROJECT? YES, MA'AM.
THEY WERE SELECTED BACK IN APRIL AND THEY, EACH ONE OF THEM WAS ASSIGNED A PROJECT.
AND, AND WE HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT TO SEE EVERYTHING THROUGH.
WE'RE JUST ISSUING SEPARATE WORK AUTHORIZATIONS.
SO WHO WILL BE THE ONE POINT OF CONTACT THAT WE HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR EACH PROJECT? WILL IT BE YOU OR ARE THEY GONNA EACH HAVE THEIR OWN PROJECT MANAGER? SO THE WAY WE'RE STRUCTURED IS I'M THE BAND LEADER.
WHEN WE DO WONDERFUL THINGS, YOU'LL LET ME KNOW.
AND WHEN WE'RE DOING NOT SO WONDERFUL THINGS, YOU'LL LET ME KNOW.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE ARE, UH, A NOT A SERIES.
WE HAVE THREE QUARTER MANAGERS AND, AND SO WE ARE THE GO BETWEEN THE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND STAFF AND COUNCIL IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT IT.
SO WE CAN, UM, I CAN GET IT TO JERRY FOR DISTRIBUTION.
I CAN LET YOU KNOW WHO EACH ONE OF OUR CORRIDOR MANAGERS ARE.
AND, AND, AND SO WE DIVIDE IT UP BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF WORK TO MANAGE AND OVERSEE AND REVIEW THE, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THE WORK.
AND SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW, PICK A PROJECT, UH, WENDY HILL ROAD, YOU WILL CALL OUR CORRIDOR MANAGER.
AND THEN MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ANSWER YOUR CALLS AND QUESTIONS FROM STAFF WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
UM, AND THEN HOW MANY PROJECTS CAN WE HAVE AT THE SAME STEP AT A TIME? THAT THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
THAT THAT'S, WE KNOW A FEW THINGS.
WE KNOW THAT SOME PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL COULD GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF.
UH, IF NOT THERE'S ONE OR TWO OF THEM THAT MAY ABLE TO GO SOONER.
BUT I'M HESITANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM BECAUSE WE ARE STILL FIGURING THAT OUT.
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WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE CAN'T PUT THE ENTIRE CITY ON CONSTRUCTION AT THE SAME TIME.THAT'S THE REASON, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON FOR THE WORKSHOP.
AND THEN SEEING WHEN WE THINK THE PROJECTS CAN LET, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'D BE BID FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY LIE GEOGRAPHICALLY.
SO TWO PROJECTS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER MIGHT BE ABLE, OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, THEY MAY BE READY TO GO AT THE SAME TIME, BUT WE MAY MAKE THE DECISION COLLECTIVELY TO NOT DO THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BEAR IN TERMS OF DISRUPTION TO TRAFFIC.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA AS TO WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE IN JANUARY.
AND THAT IS WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT MAKES SENSE OR WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD LIKE TO US TO LOOK AT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
AND IT'S OUR JOB TO TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK WE CAN DO THAT ON YOUR BEHALF WITHOUT PUTTING THE UNDUE STRESS ON THE COMMUNITY.
AND MY LAST QUESTION WILL BE, SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE AS COUNCIL, IF WE GO INTO A WORKSHOP, RIGHT, UM, I KNOW WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL ROADS THAT SHOULD HAVE PRIORITY.
HOW, CUZ AND I DON'T WANNA PUT LEON TO DO THAT.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE DECIDING THAT AS COUNCIL IN FINDING ALTERNATIVE WAYS FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED IF WE START WORKING IN ONE OF THOSE ROADS TO GO IN DIFFERENT ROAD? LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE, EVEN IF WE GO INTO A WORKSHOP, FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS TO KNOW THE CITY WELL ENOUGH.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF LEON IS GONNA BE THAT PERSON OR WHO'S GONNA BE GUIDING US ON WHAT PROJECTS SHOULD HAVE PRIORITY OR WE'RE GONNA START FIRST, WHAT WE WILL PRESENT TO YOU AND WE'LL GET IT IN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET THE MATERIALS TO YOU IN ADVANCE.
WHAT WE'LL PRESENT TO COUNCIL IS A FIRST CUT, A FIRST TAKE ON, UM, THE LETTING SCHEDULE WHEN THINGS, WHEN WE THINK THINGS WILL BE READY FOR BID.
AND ACTUALLY WE'VE BEEN TOYING WITH ONE, BUT WE DON'T, WE CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S READY FOR REVIEW BECAUSE WE NEED TO CHECK BACK IN WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS.
REMEMBER, THIS IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.
AND SO WHEN WE GIVE THAT TO YOU, WE WILL SAY, THIS IS THE ORDER WE SUGGESTED.
AND IT WILL BE BASED ON, A FEW THINGS WILL BE BASED ON WHETHER THE PROJECT IS, IS HOW COMPLICATED IT IS.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS AN EASY PROJECT.
IT WILL BE BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT THE DEMANDS FOR MONEY FOR THE PROJECT MATCH AGAINST WHAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT THINKS CAN BE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BOND.
UM, AND IT'LL BE BASED ON OUR TAKE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL INTERFERE WITH EACH OTHER.
SO YOU WILL HAVE A, A RECOMMENDATION FROM US.
WHAT WE'LL ASK OF YOU AT THAT POINT IS, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? AND IF YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, JOE PROJECT A, YOU HAVE IT FIRST, BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE BECAUSE OF WHATEVER REASON TO BRING PROJECT, YOU KNOW, C UP, WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND, AND, AND LET YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT'S POSSIBLE GIVEN THOSE OTHER THREE THINGS I JUST DESCRIBED, RIGHT? LIKE, OKAY, SO, SO IT, IT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA WALK INTO A ROOM AND, AND LOOK AT COUNSEL AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A, A HEAD START AND THEN WE WOULD HOPE THAT STAFF WOULD WEIGH IN AND SORT OF, YOU KNOW, DOUBLE CHECK OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.
SO MY AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 SPECIFICALLY DISCUSS THIS ROAD PRIORITY.
I'M WORKING TOGETHER COLLECTIVELY WITH STAFF AND I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SET A DATE THAT WE CAN MEET AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, I HAVE BEEN TOLD, UM, I'VE BEEN INFORMED ACTUALLY BY A DEVELOPER, UM, TO BE THE LANDOWNER WHO'S ALREADY DISCUSSED, UH, THE BRIDGE GOING FROM COLLIERS TO SEEKING.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY WORKING ON ANY ROADS OR ANY BRIDGES UNTIL COUNSEL HAS GIVEN THEIR BLESSING.
CUZ WE HAVE PROMISED OUR VOTERS THAT WE WOULD WORK ON THE ROADS IN THE WAY THAT, AND THAT'S WHY AGAIN, I WANTED TWO DIFFERENT BOND.
I WANTED A NEW ROAD BOND AND AN OLD BOND TO GIVE THAT PRIORITY TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND SO COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL, WE HAVE NOT DIRECTED STAFF TO, TO WORK ON ANY ROAD.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT WORKING ON A BRIDGE.
WELL, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU COUNCIL MEMBER IS THAT RIGHT NOW NONE OF THE DESIGN ENGINEERS HAVE A WORK AUTHORIZATION OR BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION TO GO THROUGH, WHETHER IT'S A SCHEMATIC OR, OR PS E NOW WHAT OTHER, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING ON, RIGHT? I, I WOULDN'T BE AWARE OF, BUT WE ARE NOT, NONE OF OUR DESIGN
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ENGINEERS OR ANOTHER, THE CITY'S DESIGN ENGINEERS HAVE WORK AUTHORIZATIONS THAT ALLOW THEM TO START ON THEIR NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN.THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW.
UM, SO THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING, UH, YOUR POWERPOINT AND THE NEXT STEP, WHEN IT SAYS SCOPING DESIGN WORK, THAT IS JUST GONNA BE YOU GUYS TRYING TO, TO LIKE LOOK AT THE DETAILS AND DO THE EASEMENTS AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED AND THEN WE'LL GET THE SCHEMATICS AND THE PS AND E SO SCOPING THE DESIGN WORK.
SO LET ME THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION FIRST.
THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN IS, UH, IT'S WHAT WE CALL A 30% PLAN.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE, AGAIN, THE BIGGEST THING ABOUT SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR A ROADWAY PROJECT IS IT SETS THE EXACT ALIGNMENT.
AND ONCE YOU SET THAT ALIGNMENT, YOU CAN DRILL INTO THE DETAILS WITH REGARD TO LIKE, IF THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS, UM, YOU ZERO IN ON UTILITY REQUIREMENTS LIKE RELOCATIONS, WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY REQUIREMENTS ARE.
AND IT ALLOWS YOU, YOU KNOW, TO GO OUT, UM, AND, AND, AND HAVE A, A, A MORE ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THE REASON YOU DO SCHEMATICS IS BECAUSE, UM, IF YOU JUMP STRAIGHT TO DESIGN AND YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR RIGHT OF WAY SET WINDS UP HAPPENING IS YOU WIND UP MOVING AROUND A LOT AND YOU WIND UP BURNING MONEY.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, SCHEMATIC ALWAYS IN PS E BECAUSE THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS WHERE WE KNOW THE ISSUES AREN'T GREAT ENOUGH WHERE WE COULD SORT OF SHORTCUT, NOT IN A BAD WAY, BUT WE COULD SHORTCUT THE SCHEMATIC.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF THERE'S A, A PROJECT THAT HAS, UH, ONLY ONE OR TWO PROPERTY OWNERS, OR THERE ARE NO UTILITY RELOCATIONS, RIGHT, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO, IT'S A GREENFIELD OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT OF WAY ISSUES AREN'T GREAT, WE MAY BE ABLE TO SAVE TIME AND MONEY BY SORT OF DOUBLE CHECKING WHAT THEY DID WITH THE P EER OR DOING THIS MUCH MORE OF A SCHEMATIC.
AND THAT THIS WAY WE CAN SAVE THE CITY MONEY OFF THE PROGRAM AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE PUT THAT TIME THAT WE SAVE BACK INTO THE SCHEDULE, ACTUALLY TAKE IT OUT OF THE SCHEDULE AND GET THINGS DONE, DONE FASTER.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE DOUBLE CHECKING ALL THE PROJECTS BASED ON THE P AND BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW AND TALKING TO THE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND SAY, DO YOU THINK WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO PS AND E? AND, AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO, TO, TO STAFF ABOUT HEADING DOWN THIS PATH.
UM, AND WE'RE LAUNCHING, SO ONCE WE, WE THINK WE CAN GO EITHER RIGHT TO PS E OR WE HAVE TO DO SCHEMATICS AND THEN WE NEED, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'RE SITTING DOWN WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND WE'RE TELLING THEM, YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO TAKE THIS PROJECT TO EITHER THE SCHEMATIC OR EITHER RIGHT TO PLAN SPECIFICATIONS AND ESTIMATES AND, AND FOR A PROJECT THAT GOES TO SCHEMATIC THAT NEEDS THAT 30% PLAN.
BECAUSE REMEMBER WE'RE DRILLING INTO THE DETAILS WITH EVERY LAYER.
WE WILL COME BACK AT SOME POINT A YEAR FROM NOW OR SO AND SAY, OKAY, THEY'RE READY TO GO TO PS AND E AND WE WILL AUTHORIZE, WE WILL ASK FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR MORE FUNDS TO FUND PS AND E FOR THE PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN GO, UM, WHERE WE HAVE TO, WHERE WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO PS AND E WITHOUT GOING TO SCHEMATIC.
UM, WE WILL ASK FOR COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE THAT, THAT MONEY NOW.
SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHERE IT LAYS, LAYS OUT.
AND SO WHEN WE SAY WE'RE SCOPING DESIGN WORK, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO GIVE US AN ESTIMATE TO DO THE NEXT LEVEL OF ENGINEERING.
AND THAT NEXT LEVEL OF ENGINEERING VARIES A LITTLE BIT PROJECT BY PROJECT.
NO, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT INSIGHT, UM, TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR, THE OLD STREETS THAT WE'RE DOING, EVEN IF THEY SEEM THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE A CHALLENGE, MY EXPECTATION AS A COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT TWO AT LEAST IS THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA GET ANY EASIER FOR THE ROADS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
SO I'M NOT, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE LIKE, OH, THAT ONE'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND START ON THIS ONE.
CUZ AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT THAT ONE THAT'S GONNA GONNA TAKE LONGER IS GONNA TAKE LONGER NO MATTER WHAT.
SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GET, UH, THESE OLDER ROADS FIXED UP AND WIDENED BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT'S ALREADY HERE.
AND SO I, I WANT THE TRIP FOR MY RESIDENTS TO THE STORE TO BE SMOOTHER.
I WANNA CREATE THESE ARTERIES AS, UH, MR. WILDER HAS, HAS INFORMED YOU IS WHAT YOU SHOULD CALL 'EM.
I WANT TO MAKE THEM A SMOOTHER RIDE FOR EVERYBODY.
AND SO I, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE THIS ONE IS GONNA BE EASIER TO DO THAN THIS ONE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF IT'S AN EXISTING ROAD AND IT LOOKS DIFFICULT, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE DIFFICULT.
AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TURNED OFF OR WE'RE NOT DOING THAT
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ROAD BECAUSE IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT LIKE IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.WE'RE SORT OF, UM, I'M JUST GONNA TRY AND SAY THAT WE'RE AGNOSTIC TO THE DIFFICULTY BECAUSE OUR JOB IS TO GET THESE PROJECTS UNDERWAY AND COMPLETED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THE ONLY THING THAT, I MEAN, THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT COULD PREVENT THEM, RIGHT? SOME THINGS WE MAY NOT EVER KNOW ABOUT TODAY, BUT THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD PREVENT IT IS IF, WHEN WE LAID OUT THE SCHEDULES, RIGHT, IF IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE GONNA HAVE THE ENTIRE CITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT ONCE, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY WOULD WANT THAT AND WHEN WE'D HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING WOULD BE IS IF WE COULD GO FASTER THAN THE CITY COULD MAKE THE BOND MONEY AVAILABLE, RIGHT? WE'D HAVE TO LIKE ARTIFICIALLY SLOW THINGS DOWN OR SPEED THEM UP.
BUT OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO GO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND, AND, UM, WE'RE NOT, UM, AND I SAY THIS WITH A BIG SMILE ON MY FACE.
UM, COMPLICATED PROJECTS REALLY DON'T MAKE US, YOU KNOW, THAT NERVOUS.
UH, WE TREAT THE SIMPLEST PROJECTS THE SAME WAY WE TREAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MOST CHALLENGING PROJECTS.
AND THAT'S FOR US ACTUALLY, IT'S WHAT MAKES IT FUN.
ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, I KIND OF AGREE WITH, WITH THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES SCALE BECAUSE WE, WE, WHETHER IT'S A ROAD THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SMALLER OR WHAT, IT'S GONNA STILL TAKE A LONG TIME NO MATTER WHAT.
WHETHER IT'S LIKE, WELL THIS ONE'S A SHORTER ROAD, SO WE'LL GO AND KNOCK IT OUT QUICKER VERSUS A LONGER ONE IS STILL GONNA BE, UH, TAKE TAKEN TOLL ON ON THE RESIDENTS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO REMIND THE RESIDENTS WHEN IT STARTS GOING.
UH, WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME CONSTRUCTION AND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME BARRICADES AND DETOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE NEED TO START PREPARING FOR.
UM, I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING THIS UP AND RUNNING, BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO GIVE THEIR COMMENT ON THE AREAS OF NEED.
UM, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, OKAY, WELL THIS ROAD MAY BE A PRIORITY, COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY HAVE SPECIFIC ROADS THAT THEY FEEL, UH, THAT NEED IT MORE THAN EVER, BUT WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ALSO GIVE THEIR INPUT AS WELL AS FAR AS THE ROADS, CUZ AGAIN, IT'S THEIR DOLLAR AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE, WE TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION WITH ALL THE OTHER, UH, AVENUES THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED, UM, BY SPEAKING WITH HARPER AS WELL.
A LOT OF THESE ROADS ARE GONNA BE TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION.
I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO START OVER FROM SCRATCH.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL.
SO WITH THE DESIGN WORK, I'M SURE LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMAN PARSLEY, MAKING SURE THAT WE DESIGN THESE ROADS THAT HAVE THE MOST EXPERTISE, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE WIDE ENOUGH, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE SIDEWALKS AND ILLUMINATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN PLAY BEFORE WE START DECIDING.
THAT'S THE ROAD WE'RE GONNA GO WITH FIRST, IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING AT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN PROPOSE MAYBE JANUARY THE 14TH, WHICH IS A SATURDAY SO WE CAN SET A DATE FOR THE WORKSHOP.
CAN WE DO THAT AGAIN, OR NOT, I SHOULD TELL YOU THAT.
UM, I HAVE AN IMMOVABLE OBJECT, WHICH IS A FAMILY VACATION THAT GOES FROM THE SEVENTH TO THE 14TH.
SO IT COULD BE THE WEEK AFTER.
JERRY, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO? UH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND, AND AGAIN, FOR YOU AS WELL TO GET THIS UP AND RUNNING.
UH, THE, THE SOONER WE, THE BETTER WE CAN GET, UH, A WORKSHOP POINT.
THIS, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME, BUT I LIKE MY FAMILY JUST A LITTLE BIT.
BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S SOMETHING TO WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT GETTING THIS, UH, UH, UP AND RUNNING TO WHERE WE CAN START DISCUSSING THE ROADS AND, UH, GETTING FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THE RESIDENTS AND ALSO GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE REST OF THE DICE.
WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE SEAT TO FEEL.
WE WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO GET THEM ON BOARD, UH, SO THAT WAY THEY CAN GIVE SOME INPUT AS WELL.
IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO DO A WORKSHOP ON THE 21ST, THEN UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ON SCHEDULE I'M NOT SEEING, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
EVERYBODY ELSE, THE REASON WHY WE'RE, WE'RE STRESSING THIS, EVERYBODY, CUZ UH, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO FOR A LONG TIME.
ROADS, OUR, OUR, OUR BIG PRIORITY IN OUR CITY FROM OUR RESIDENTS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE DI HERE AND THE COUNCIL IS TAKEN VERY SERIOUS.
SO WE WANT TO GET THIS UP AND RUNNING FOR EVERYBODY CUZ THERE'S SO MANY ROADS WE NEED TO GET UP AND RUNNING.
THE THE OTHER THING, IF I MAY MENTION, ASIDE FROM GOING THROUGH THE PRIORITIES, UH, THERE ARE PROBABLY A FEW OTHER THINGS WE'LL ASK YOU ABOUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO COVER AT THAT TIME AND WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PRESENT YOU WITH SOME IDEAS, BUT, UM, THE NATURE OF UPDATES, WE DON'T WANT TO DROWN COUNSEL AND WE'RE GONNA DROWN STAFF WITH UPDATES, BUT MAYBE NOT COUNSEL.
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YOU CAN THINK ABOUT BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP, WHAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO YOU IN TERMS OF UPDATES AND, AND HOW OFTEN YOU'D LIKE TO GET THEM, YOU KNOW, FROM US THROUGH STAFF.THAT MIGHT, SOMETHING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS DURING THE WORKSHOP.
YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN DO WE WANNA UPDATES AND FROM WHO DO WE WANNA UPDATES AND ALL OF THAT.
I'M MENTIONING NOW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE JUST TO, TO GIVE YOU SEEDS OF THINGS, UH, TO THINK ABOUT, TO ASK US IN HIS ROOM.
ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, I DO WANNA SAY TO MAKE SURE THAT, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANNA BOTHER US WITH ALL THE DETAILS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU EITHER THE RESIDENTS CAN CONTACT US AND WE CAN TELL THEM, OR THEY CAN CONTACT YOU GUYS AND THEN YOU CAN TELL THEM.
SO I THINK IT'S BEST IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE UPDATED BECAUSE WE CAN JUST PUT SOMETHING ON OUR FACEBOOK OR WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY, THEY'RE GONNA EXPECT US TO KNOW THE UPDATES.
AND SO SOMETIMES WHEN I DON'T KNOW 'EM, I FEEL A LITTLE SILLY.
SO I AGREE THAT WE DON'T NEED EVERY SINGLE UPDATE, BUT, UM, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT IN MY AGENDA ITEM, WHICH I THINK WE MAY NOT EVEN NEED NOW.
BUT, UM, AND MAYBE IT'S COMING LIKE TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE BEGINNING THERE'S, THERE MAY NOT BE A LOT TO UPDATE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'LL JUST HAVE, I MEAN, WHILE THE DESIGNS ARE BEING WORKED ON, THERE MAY NOT BE ANYTHING TO SHOW ANYBODY OR TALK TO ANYBODY.
BUT WHEN PROJECTS GO TO RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION OR UTILITY RELOCATION, AND THEN THEY GET READY FOR CONSTRUCTION, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT PEOPLE ARE, NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED NOW, BUT THEY'RE REALLY GONNA TUNE IN AND THE UPDATES MIGHT CHANGE IN NATURE OR GET MORE FREQUENT.
UM, BUT THESE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, THINGS ON THE, ON THE HORIZON.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, UM, THAT WORKSHOP COULD BE SCHEDULED FOR THE 21ST AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK IN FEBRUARY WITH THE DESIGN WORK AUTHORIZATION REQUESTS, AND THEN WE'RE OFF TO THE RACES AFTER THAT WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS.
[8. CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
ALL RIGHT, NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UH, C P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA PRESENTATIONS.GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS, LEON BARBARA, CITY ENGINEER, STARTING OFF WITH LA BETTERLEY PARK.
UH, ROOFING INSTALLATION IS IN PROGRESS.
THE LIGHT FIXTURES ON STRUCTURAL AMPHITHEATER HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.
THE NORTH SIDEWALK HAS BEEN POURED AND COMPLETED.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE, UH, INSTALLATION OF THE WATER FEATURE.
AND, UH, WE'RE SEEING THAT THE PROJECTED SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE IS, UH, JANUARY OF 2023.
CAN I ASK YOU REAL QUICK, WHEN WAS THAT ORIGINAL DATE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? BELIEVE IT WAS ORIGINALLY LATE JUNE, 2022.
OKAY, SO WE'RE LIKE SIX MONTHS OFF MORE THAN THAT.
CAN YOU TELL ME, LIKE, UH, WELL JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN LIKE SOME OF THE HOLD UPS AND THEN, UH, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PUSH FORWARD? DO I NEED TO, LIKE, I DO, I NEED TO GO OUT AND PUSH A GCM IS THE, UH, PROJECT MANAGER SO THAT THAT INFORMATION REALLY NEEDS TO COME FROM THEM.
I'VE JUST KIND OF PICKED UP ON THE TAIL END OF THE PROJECT COUNCIL MEMBER.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WITH THE CONTRACTOR AS FAR AS THE PROGRESS.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT AND SOME CHANGE ORDER ISSUES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE LITTLE THAT I KNOW ON THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, LAVERDE PARK.
THERE WAS A NET KIND OF FEATURE OF THE PARK AND I DON'T SEE IT IN THE PICTURE.
IS THAT NOT THE MOST UPTODATE PICTURE THAT WAS TAKEN YESTERDAY.
SO WASN'T THERE A STRUCTURE THAT HAD LIKE A NET, A CLIMBING NET THAT I DON'T SEE IN THERE? THE PLAYGROUND AREA.
RYAN ROSEBORO WITH A GCM FOR THE RECORD.
UM, JUST, UH, THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT HASN'T BEEN INSTALLED YET.
SO THAT'S TO, TO YOUR QUESTION ON SOME OF THE DELAYS.
THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE IS, UM, WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE A PLAYGROUND INSTALLER APPROVE EVERYTHING THAT THE CONTRACTOR DOES BEFORE THEY'LL INSTALL THEIR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE WARRANTY IS INTACT.
SO, UM, THAT'S BEEN KIND OF A BACK AND FORTH.
SO THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT'S NOT BEEN INSTALLED YET, BUT, BUT WASN'T THERE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT LOOKED LIKE ANNETTE? I THINK I SOME, AT SOME POINT I WENT WALKING BY AND I SAW A GIANT STRUCTURE THAT HAD LIKE A CLIMBING THAT CLOSE TO HEROES.
UM, WE DO HAVE THAT AT HEROES.
WE HAVE THAT WEB, UH, THAT'S OVER NEXT TO THE, OKAY.
WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND WHAT ARE THE ODDS? IT'S REALLY GONNA BE DONE BY JANUARY, 2023 BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A PILE OF DIRT.
I'M, I'M NOT OUT THERE PERSONALLY BUILDING IT, SO I'M NOT GONNA TELL
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YOU SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, A FARFETCHED.THE CONTRACTOR RIGHT NOW IS SAYING DECEMBER.
THAT'S WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE SAYS.
THERE'S, OKAY, TODAY'S THE SIXTH.
WE'RE WE'RE SAYING? YES MA'AM.
HAS THIS PROJECT GONE OVER BUDGET SINCE IT'S 75% COMPLETE AND GONE OVER OBVIOUSLY SIX MONTHS? IT'S NOT OVER BUDGET.
SO THAT WAS PART OF, UM, I GUESS SOME NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE HAD TO HAVE WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
THEY WERE ASKING FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF EXTENDED GENERAL CONDITIONS.
UM, THEIR, THEIR CHARGE WAS THAT THERE WAS DESIGN ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT AND THAT THERE WAS SOME FINGER POINTING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BACK AND FORTH.
BUT HAVE WE MADE A LOT OF CHANGE ORDERS OR IS THIS DESIGNED FROM THE CONTRACTORS? THERE HAS BEEN SOME CHANGE ORDERS, BUT NOTHING OUTSIDE OF THE CONTINGENCY THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
UM, SO WE'RE STILL WITHIN THE CONTRACTED BUDGET AMOUNT, UH, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT LEFT AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THAT BUDGET THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED.
CUZ I'M JUST LOOKING AT BASICALLY LANDSCAPING TO FINISH.
SO IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED TO FINISH UP LANDSCAPING? WELL, THE, UM, THE PAVILION IS THE OTHER BIG, THE, THE STRUCTURE IS REALLY THE CRITICAL PATH.
THERE'S A PAVILION STRUCTURE THAT'S THERE AND THAT'S THE CRITICAL PATH.
SO, UM, THAT'S BASICALLY A SHED.
UM, IT'S A COVERED IT'S RESTROOMS MM-HMM.
AND IT'S GOT SOME NICE WOOD ACCENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON IT.
THAT'S WHERE THE WATER'S GONNA BE TOO.
YEAH, WE HAVE SOME WATER FEATURES AROUND IT.
UM, SO, UM, THE, THE, THE LANDSCAPING INSTALLATION, ACTUALLY THE LANDSCAPING SHOWED UP YESTERDAY, SO YOU'LL SEE THAT DRASTICALLY CHANGE HOPEFULLY VERY SOON.
UM, THE HANGUP RIGHT NOW IS US GETTING THE PLAYGROUND INSTALLER AND THE CONTRACTOR TO, IF, IF I CAN INTERVENE AND HAVE LEON JUST FINISH THE PRESENTATION, IT WILL GET QUESTIONS GOING.
OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, ABOUT 73% COMPLETE.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON LEVEL TWO TAPING AND FLOATING, UH, WORKING ON THE DATA COMMUNICATIONS AND CABLE INSTALLATION ON, UH, LEVEL TWO.
ALSO, THEY INSTALL THE MAIN ENTRANCE WINDOW AND THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE ON THIS ONE IS EARLY MARCH OF 2023.
WASTEWATER TREATMENT EXPANSION PROJECT.
UM, THE DEW WATERING FACILITIES ALMOST COMPLETES 97% COMPLETE.
UH, WE, WE SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
UH, WE STILL HAVE OUR SUPPLY CHAIN DELAYS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATE SUPPLIERS TO SEE IF I CAN, WE CAN SPEED THAT UP.
UH, THE DEW WATER FACILITY HAS BEEN ENERGIZED, SO IT'S READY TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD.
UH, BULLSEYE PLANT NUMBER ONE.
JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT PICTURE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINDING AS WE'RE OPENING UP AND, UH, CLEANING OUT THESE SYSTEMS. BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT THERE AND HAVING TO REPLACE A LOT OF THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE THERE.
THE, UH, WEATHER PERMITTING, UH, WE'RE GONNA START PAVING LATER THIS WEEK.
AND THE SECURITY FENCING INSTALLATION CONTINUES.
AND ARCHER WESTERN IS OUR CONTRACTOR.
THEY HAVE STARTED TO BEGIN THE, THE DEMO DEMOBILIZE THE PRO FROM THE PROJECT SOUTH SIDE WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.
WE'RE STILL AT THE 94% COMPLETE.
UH, WE'RE DOING SOME TV INSPECTION ON SOME OF THE LINES THERE IN FRONT OF THE ALEXANDER PROPERTY.
AND, UH, SOME WORK WE DID ON THE TDCJ PROPERTY, UH, REPAIRS TO THE TEXTILE RIGHT OF WAY AND POST ROAD HAD BEEN COMPLETED.
AND, UH, SOUTH SIDE OF THE STATION.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT STARTED UP ON DECEMBER 13TH.
UH, TOOK QUITE A BIT OF COORDINATION TO GET EVERYBODY TO, TO COME TO, TO MEET ON THAT ONE AND GET THAT STARTED.
AND WE'RE STARTING TO CLEAN UP THE SITE.
UH, WE STILL HAVE ROAD CLOSURES, BUT IT'S DRIVABLE.
WE'RE GONNA START PAVING ON THIS ONE LATER THIS WEEK.
UH, WE STILL HAVE, UH, CITIZENS THAT ARE HAVING ISSUES AND WE'RE STILL MEETING WITH THEM AS NEEDED.
UH, WE'RE ALSO STARTING TO CLEAN UP THIS PARTICULAR SITE TOO.
A SPECTRUM APPARENTLY IS WAITING FOR P E TO GIVE PERMISSION TO SO THEY CAN INSTALL THE LINES ON THEIR POLES.
UH, FRONTIER IS PLACING NEW FIBER UNDERGROUND AND COPPER LINES.
UH, ALL THEY NEED TO DO NOW START SPLICING THOSE LINES TO THE NEW, NEW UNDERGROUND LINES.
AND THEY SHOULD BEGIN THAT THIS WEEK.
OLD POST ROAD, UH, THE COUNTY'S BEEN OUT THERE, THEY'RE STARTING TO DO THE DRAINAGE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN FRONT OF LOWER AND CONCRETE.
YOU CAN SEE THE PIPE IN THE BACKGROUND.
THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF PIPE THAT NEEDS TO BE PLACED THERE, SO THEY'RE TRYING TO WRAP THAT PROJECT UP.
ANY PAINTBRUSH LIFT STATION, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 34% COMPLETE.
UH, THE WET WELL THAT WE, UH, SHOWED PICTURES OF BEFORE THAT'S PRETTY DEEP, HAS BEEN, UH, BACKFILL.
UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THE VALVE VAULT, UH, SETTING THE SLAB FORMS AND, AND REBAR THERE.
WE DID HAVE THE WEATHER SLOW US DOWN ON THAT PROJECT, JUST LIKE A LOT OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT BY THE WEATHER CENTER, STREET VILLAGE WISH WATERLINE, PHASE ONE.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT SERVED BY THE SONIC RIGHT THERE OFF THE HILL STREET.
UH, DID WANNA MAKE ONE POINT TO YOU THAT MO MAN, UH, THE ONLY ENGINEERS CAN APPRECIATE THIS,
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UH, THAT MANHOLE THAT YOU SEE.THERE IS A VERY EXPENSIVE MANHOLE THAT WE, UH, ASK THE CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE TO US.
IT'S ALMOST TWICE THE COST OF A REGULAR MANHOLE.
UM, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE COATED.
THEY'RE VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE.
THESE MANHOLES ARE GONNA BE ABOUT 15 TO 20 FEET DEEP.
THEY'RE GONNA BE BETWEEN THE SONIC AND A NEW, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA GO IN THERE.
AND THE LAST THING WE WANNA DO IS TO HAVE TO COME IN 15, 20 YEARS LATER WHEN THESE THINGS HAVE CORRODED AND HAVE TO TRY TO REPAIR THEM AND, AND RECOAT THEM WHEN YOU'VE GOT ALL THE LANDSCAPING.
AND, UH, AND IT'S BY THESE BUSINESSES.
SO THESE ARE THE FIRST ONES THAT WE'VE USED IN KYLE.
THAT'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT UNUSUAL.
OTHER CITIES USE THESE, UH, ON A ROUTINE BASIS, BUT I DECIDED THAT WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING THERE.
IT'S VERY DURABLE, VERY, UH, LONG LASTING AND IT, UH, REDUCES MAINTENANCE.
SO, SO HARPER WILDER AND PUBLIC RICK SHOULD APPRECIATE THIS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.
UH, THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING, UM, AGENDA ITEM.
IT'S UP APPROVING A RESOLUTION APPOINTING THE CITY'S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ACT AS IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE STUDY THAT WE'RE GONNA DO AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS.
WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR WASTEWATER AND, UH, WATER IMPACT FEES.
AND WE SELECTED HDR TO DO THAT FOR US.
THEY DID IT THE LAST TIME FOR US BACK IN 2016 AND 2017.
AND EVERY TIME SOMEBODY HOOKS INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM OR OUR WASTE WATER SYSTEM, THEY HAVE TO PAY AN IMPACT FEE.
AND THAT IMPACT FEE IS BASED ON TWO THINGS.
IT'S BASED ON THE PLATTING DATE, AND IT'S, AND IT'S BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE METER.
THE LARGER THE METER, THE MORE IMPACT FEE THAT YOU PAY.
UH, WE ANTICIPATE THAT FEE'S GONNA GO UP THIS YEAR OR THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THE, UM, FACT THAT WE'RE ADDING IN THE ARWA, UH, CONTRIBUTION THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR.
SO WE EXPECT TO SEE A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE IN THE WATER IMPACT FEE, WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE.
UH, CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE GONE UP, SO WE EXPECT TO SEE THAT PRICE GO UP.
UH, AND CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
UH, THIS IS THE, UH, SECOND READING FOR THE, UH, REDUCING SPEED LIMIT ON, UH, CONESTOGA DRIVE FROM ALL STAGE COAST TO JAR BRIDGE DRIVE ON THE ATTACHMENT I SENT COUNCIL.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UH, STRIPING PATTERN CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
WE DID NOT INCLUDE THOSE, UH, DELINEATORS, UH, VISITING WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
THEY REALLY DIDN'T LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
TYPICALLY, THOSE END UP AS BEING TARGETS.
SO WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST DO THE STRIPING AND THE CROSSWALK STRIPING, AND THEN SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT ON CONSENT.
UH, WE HAVE TWO FACILITIES, ONE AT YARRINGTON AND ONE AT LAYMAN ROAD.
APPARENTLY THE, UH, CHLORINE INJECTION SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE THERE WERE NOT DONE PROPERLY.
SO WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE, UH, CAPE DAWSON COME IN AND, AND REDESIGN THOSE, UH, LOCATIONS FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MIXING THAT GOES ON WITH THE WATER THAT COMES INTO OUR UNITS IS DONE PROPERLY AND CORRECTLY AND MONITORED CORRECTLY.
ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, UH, THIS WAS A TYPO IN THAT NUMBER THAT YOU SEE THERE IS, THERE'S 6905 7 2 4 3 OH ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
SO THAT WAS IN AN ERROR, SO I MISSED IT.
UH, THE, UH, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT CAUGHT IT, SO THANK GOODNESS THEY HAVE SHARP EYES AND CAUGHT THAT.
SO THIS IS JUST A CORRECTION TO THAT TOPOGRAPHICAL ERROR.
CAN I ASK WHO DRAFTED THAT? OUR PROJECT MANAGER.
AND, AND THEIR NAME? YVONNE GALVAO.
AND I REVIEWED IT THOUGH, AND I MISSED IT.
THE LAST CONSENT AGENDA ITEM IS NUMBER 16.
UH, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO BIRCH'S DISCIPLE FOR AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF $90,040 FOR THE ADDITIONAL WARRANT THAT'S REQUIRED BECAUSE WE'VE EXTENDED THE CONTRACT OUT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROBERT? COUNCIL PAR? I DO HAVE ONE.
UM, AND THE CONTRACT SAYS IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY SURVEYING.
ARE WE GONNA NEED ANY OF THAT ADDITIONALLY? NO, WE SHOULDN'T NEED ANY SURVEYING.
BEFORE WE HIT CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE AGENDA ORDER.
SO IF YOU WANNA GO IN ORDER, WE CAN, I HAD NUMBER, WE CAN START OFF WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.
PRESENTATION REGARDING THE ETHICS COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CITY ETHICS CODE.
UM, ETHICS COMMISSIONER, CHAIRMAN, MIKE RSON.
[26. (First Reading) Approve an Ordinance amending the City's approved budget for Fiscal Year 2022-2023 by appropriating $677,002.00 in additional funds from the City's General Fund and increasing the amount of total expenditures to complete the Public Safety Center project. ~ Perwez A. Moheet, CPA, Director of Finance]
ALL RIGHT.NOW WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 26.
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TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY APPROVAL BUDGET FOR THE PHYSICAL YEAR OF 2023 BY APPROPRIATING $677,002 IN ADDITION FUNDS FROM THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND, AND INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF TOTAL EXPENDITURES TO COMPLETE THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT.MAYOR, WELL, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD ON PERVEZ MOHI CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
THIS AGENDA ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 THREES FIRST BUDGET AMENDMENT.
THE REASON FOR THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT IS TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO COMPLETE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER PROJECT.
UH, AS WE COME NEAR COMPLETION, THERE IS A LIST OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE PAID FOR OUTSIDE OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.
THE LIST IS ATTACHED TO YOUR AGENDA ITEM.
THE, THERE ARE NINE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE COMPLETION LIST.
THEY ADD UP TO SLIGHTLY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS, 1 MILLION AND $2,002 BETWEEN CITY STAFF CITY'S PROJECT MANAGER A GCM.
WE WERE ABLE TO USE $325,000 FROM CONTINGENCY TO OFFSET THE NEW NEEDS.
THE NET AMOUNT THAT IS NEEDED FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO COVER THE ESTIMATED COST OF COMPLETING THESE NINE ITEMS IS $677,000.
TO BE CLEAR, NONE OF THE ROAD BOND FUNDS ARE BEING USED F UH, IN THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT.
SO LET ME EXPLAIN TO COUNSEL HOW WE ARE GOING TO COVER THE, UH, FUNDING FOR THESE NINE ITEMS IN THE BACK BACKGROUND OR BACKUP DOCUMENTATION TO YOUR AGENDA ITEM.
THERE ARE TECHNICAL TERMS USED TO EXPLAIN THE MONEY BEING TRANSFERRED FROM AND MONEY'S BEING TRANSFERRED TO IN TERMS OF THE OFFICIAL TITLES OR PROGRAM NAMES, UH, ASSIGNED TO THE VARIOUS BOND FUNDS.
SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS USE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.
ALL OF THE $677,000 WILL BE PAID FOR WITH GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.
TO GIVE YOU A BACKDROP AS TO, TO WHERE THESE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM.
PRIOR TO THE ROAD BOND ELECTION WAS HELD, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED 5.3 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE FUTURE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM AS SEED MONIES TO GET THAT PROJECT OFF THE GROUND.
AND BY OFF THE GROUND, I MEAN THE INITIAL PRELIMINARY WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO AT LEAST PROVIDE A REASONABLE COST ESTIMATE AS TO WHAT WE WOULD BE ASKING THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON.
THE 5.3 MILLION IN SEED MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND WAS FROM THE GET GO, FROM THE VERY START WAS INTENDED AS A LOAN TO THE BOND FUND.
WHEN THE BONDS WERE ISSUED, THE CITY WOULD REIMBURSE ITSELF, MEANING THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE REPAID, THE LOAN WOULD BE PAID BACK.
SO THAT 5.3 MILLION THAT WE LOAN TO THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM WITH GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, A PORTION OF THAT, OR $677,000 IS BEING USED OR PROPOSED TO BE USED TO PAY FOR THESE NINE ITEMS, UM, THAT ARE STILL NEEDED, ARE ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT ARE STILL NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER PROJECT.
SO IN A NUTSHELL, THE BOTTOM LINE IS $0 ARE BEING TRANSFERRED FROM THE ROAD BONDS.
IT IS JUST THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS THAT WERE LOANED TO.
THE BOND PROGRAM IS A PORTION OF THAT IS BEING REPAID TO THE GENERAL FUND, AND IN THIS CASE IS BEING APPLIED TO THE PUBLIC C CENTER PROJECT COUNCIL.
I HOPE I WAS ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT THE BACK AND
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FORTH BETWEEN THE FUNDS.ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, FLOOR SCALE.
PEREZ, IF WE HAD NOT TAKEN A VOTE TO REIMBURSE OURSELVES FOR THE 5.3 MILLION, WHERE WOULD THE MONEY HAVE COME FROM TO COVER THAT AMOUNT? IT WOULD'VE COME FROM GENERAL FUND.
SO IF WE, IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS AGENDA ITEM, WHERE WILL THAT MONEY COME FROM?
AND I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THE ROAD BOND NOT COVERING THIS AMOUNT, BUT I, WHAT I WANT YOU TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IS, AS A RESIDENT AND AS PEOPLE WHO SIT AS RESIDENTS, THE PERCEPTION OF TAKING MONEY THAT WE HAVE JUST, UM, HAD OUR VOTERS AGREE ON TO COVER PAST REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE USED.
AND IT'S, AND THE FACT IS WE DIDN'T USE ALL 5.3 MILLION.
SO THERE'S STILL THAT'S CORRECT.
SO IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS ROAD BOND, THEN IT WOULD JUST COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND ANYWAYS.
SO FOR ME, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF PERCEPTION.
UM, AND IT MAKES ME REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE TO VOTE TO, I GUESS RE AND I VOTED NO FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT AS WELL, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE READY TO USE THIS MONEY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE BOND.
UM, BUT IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE TO, TO TAKE ONE OUT AND PUT IT IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN APPLY IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UM, MY HOPE WOULD'VE BEEN TO JUST BE ABLE TO FINANCIALLY REARRANGE THINGS WITHIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, MAYBE TAKE SOME STUFF OUT OR MAYBE NOT MAKE IT AS, UM, EXTRAVAGANT AS I THINK IT ONCE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND THEN WE COULD SAVE MONEY IN THAT CAPACITY.
UM, SO THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED DID NOT HAVE BACKUP MATERIAL.
SO HOW, HOW, HOW DO I VOTE $500,000 FOR THE DISPATCH IF WE DON'T KNOW THAT'S HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE.
PERHAPS, UH, CHIEF BARNETT COULD COME UP AND EXPLAIN THE PRE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE HE HAS RECEIVED FROM CAPCO TO MOVE THE NINE 11 SYSTEM, THE NEW FACILITY.
HE HAS MORE DETAILS THAN I DO.
JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
SO I WALKED IN HERE BECAUSE I WAS SUMMITED, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ALL OF HIS SUGGESTED, UH, RESPONSE FROM ME.
SO, SO MY QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOT BACKUP SUBMITTED WITH THE, UM, MATERIAL FOR THE 500,000 ACTUALLY FOR ANY OF IT, REALLY.
AND SO I WAS JUST ASKING, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE VOTE TO A, TO PROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHEN WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST? YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK THE CONSIDERATION WAS THAT WE GIVE YOU WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE A MAXIMUM AMOUNT, AND THEN WE COME IN UNDER THAT.
UM, I WILL, I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD GIVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.
SO WHEN COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE CITY STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, NOTIFICATION TO BOTH HAYES COUNTY AND THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE BRINGING OUR 9 1 1 CENTER INTO THE NEW POLICE FACILITY, WE NEEDED TO NOTIFY CAPCO SO THAT THEY COULD MAKE ARRANGEMENTS.
AS EVERYBODY PROBABLY REMEMBERS, CAPCO IS IN CHARGE OF THE, THE 9 1 1 SYSTEM.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ENTITY THAT IS OVERSEES OUR 9 1 1 IN THIS REGION.
SO WHEN WE GAVE THAT NOTIFICATION, I VERY, UH, QUICKLY ASKED THE PERSON THAT WAS ASSISTING ME FROM CAPCO FOR A QUICK ESTIMATE.
AND I, I HAVE TO ADMIT, I PUT THEM ON THE SPOT.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT NUMBERS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DO RESEARCH.
UM, THEIR FIRST ANSWER WAS QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO GET YOUR LETTER FIRST AND THEN WE'LL START DOING THE WORK.
AND I SAID, WELL, IF YOU HAD TO GIVE ME A NUMBER NOW WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF RESEARCH AND GATHERING THE DATA, WHAT COULD YOU GIVE ME AS A SAFE NUMBER? AND THAT INDIVIDUAL SAID, YOU KNOW, WHILE I'M NOT CERTAIN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE OF OUR MOST RECENT PROJECTS THAT IS VERY SIMILAR IN NATURE, UH, WAS $500,000.
NOW, WHAT THAT PERSON DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF WAS TO, TO KNOW WHAT WE WERE ALREADY PAYING FOR WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR BUILDING.
I SUSPECT THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS GIVING US AN ALL IN PRICE, WHICH COULD MEAN THINGS
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THAT WE'RE ALREADY BUILDING AS PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.THEY MAY HAVE INCLUDED IN THEIR $500,000 ESTIMATE.
SO WE HAVE RELIED ON THAT NUMBER KNOWING WHERE IT CAME FROM AND THE PRESSURE THAT WAS PLACED ON THEM TO GIVE ME SUCH A QUICK NUMBER.
AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU NOW, I THINK WE'RE THE HOPE WAS THAT WE COULD GIVE YOU A NUMBER THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY GONNA COME WITHIN.
I DO HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD NEWS JUST IN THE LAST FEW WORKING DAYS.
UM, CAPCO HAS REVIEWED ALL OF THEIR CONTRACTS.
THEY SUBCONTRACT WITH AT AND T TO, TO DO A LOT OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE WORK.
UM, THEY HAVE LOOKED THOSE CONTRACTS OVER AND IT LOOKS LIKE MUCH OF THE POTENTIAL COST THAT COULD BE INCURRED WILL ACTUALLY BE COVERED UNDER THE EXISTING AT AND T CONTRACT.
SO THAT MEANS WE WILL NOT HAVE TO BEAR THAT EXPENSE.
UH, WE DON'T KNOW THE FINAL NUMBER THOUGH, AND SHORT, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE TO GETTING THAT NUMBER.
COULD BE DAYS OR COULD BE A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
BUT THE 500 I BELIEVE WAS PLACED AS AN INSURANCE SO THAT WE KNOW WE COULD COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND COME IN UNDER BUDGET.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR PEREZ.
UM, CAN YOU, DO YOU HAVE THE AMOUNT PAID TO PEAL FOR, REGARDING THE CHANGES IN THE PLANS FROM THE TIME THAT THE CITY RECEIVED THE PLANS? UNTIL THE, UNTIL RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ON RECORD COUNCIL MEMBER THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AND ALL THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, BUT I JUST DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.
I CAN PROVIDE THAT MARK, UM, A CGM.
ARE THEY HERE? CAUSE THEY OVERSEE THIS AS WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, THIS IS INFORMATION I'M ASKING OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, SO, UM, CAN, OKAY, THANK YOU.
CAN YOU GIVE ME THE AMOUNT, UH, PAID FOR THE ROOFTOP OUTDOOR LOUNGE WITH THE WHEELCHAIR LIFT? I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE, THAT WAS ALL PUT IN UNDER DESIGN AND UNDER THE ORIGINAL GMP.
AND SAME WITH THE BALCONY, THE FRONT BALCONY.
THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS.
AND THOSE ARE ALL ITEMS REQUESTED BY COUNSEL? CORRECT.
AND IN THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WAS COUNSEL AND NOT STAFF.
AM I, IS THAT A CONFIRMATION? I'M NOT POSITIVE ON WHERE THAT DIRECTION CAME FROM TO BE HONEST.
CAUSE MY CONCERN IS I NEVER WANNA TAKE AWAY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND THIS OVERAGE DOES NOT NECESSARILY COME FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE.
UM, THE OVERAGE AND JUST KIND OF EASE OF THE REASON WE'RE NEEDING ADDITIONAL FUNDS IS FOR THE FINAL MOVE OF THE DISPATCH CENTER INTO THE BUILDING.
THE BUILDING ITSELF COULD BE COMPLETED AS DESIGNED UNDER THE GMP WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
WE NEED THE MONEY TO MOVE THE DISPATCH.
WE NEEDED THE MONEY FOR THE ADDITIONAL LCR, UM, A UNITS THAT ARE BEING PURCHASED THAT ARE BEING POSTPONED OFF THIS AGENDA ITEM.
BUT IT'S THOSE ADDITIONAL THINGS TO MOVE AND SET UP A FUNCTIONING DISPATCH SYSTEM THAT IS CAUSING THE REQUEST FOR THESE FUNDS.
I, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS IF WE DIDN'T ADD ALL THESE ADDITIONAL, UM, LUXURIES TO THAT BUILDING YES MA'AM.
WOULD WE BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW? WE ARE CLOSE IN NUMBER AND IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER, PARSLEY.
SO, UM, I GUESS THIS QUESTION WILL BE FOR CHIEF.
UM, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM TODAY, AND TURNS OUT YOU GET THE CONTRACT FROM CAPCO AND THE PRICE OF GETTING THE POLICE DISPATCH A SYSTEM, IT'S A LOT LOWER THAN THAT.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THOSE FUNDS WILL NOT BE ALLOCATED ANYWHERE ELSE.
THAT IF WE ARE SETTING THAT $500,000 AMOUNT AND IT TURNS OUT THAT IT'S A HUNDRED, THE 400,000 ARE GONNA GO BACK TO GENERAL FUND.
WILL THAT BE, I'M DEFINITELY VERY CLEAR ON THAT AND I THEN I WOULD LEAN ON PAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THAT THE MOTION, UH, FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION IS MADE IN A WAY THAT WOULD LIMIT THOSE FUNDS.
THEY WOULD ONLY BE USED WITH YOUR MOTION AND APPROVAL IN THE WAY THAT YOU WANT, WHICH IS TO PAY FOR THAT CAPCO EXPENSE.
AND WE ARE, WE LIKE YOU WERE HOPING FOR THE BEST WITH GOOD LOW NUMBERS.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WILL BE FOR A GCM THAT IF THIS CONTRACT TURNS OUT TO GO BEYOND THE SET DATE THAT WE HAVE OF MAY 31ST, 2023, WE ARE NOT GETTING ADDITIONAL BILLS THAT YOU GIVE ME THE WORD RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING YOU A DIME MORE FOR THIS.
EVERYBODY SAW THAT?
MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY
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TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 26 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES GA.ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? DOES, DOES SHE WANNA AMEND THAT? SO IT'S, IT'S WORDED WHERE THEY'RE GONNA USE THE MONEY.
LIKE IF IT'S OVER FIVE, YOU KNOW, SAY TO MOVE IT IS ONLY 50,000, THE REST WILL GO BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUNDER.
MAY I, UM, AMEND MY MOTION? OKAY.
CAN I MAKE MY MOTION AGAIN? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 26 STATING THAT IF THE FUNDS THAT THE EXACT AMOUNT OF THE EXACT AMOUNT TO CONTRACT SERVICES WITH CAPCO IS GO, IS TO BE USED AT ANY REMAINING FUNDS.
GO BACK TO GENERAL FUND SECOND.
THE AMENDED MOTION TO ADD THE EXTRA ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
GO, UH, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE ON ITEM NUMBER 26.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KILL ANY DISCUSSION ON THE, ON THE MOTION? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR PEREZ TOO.
WE HAVE A QUESTION? UH, YEAH, FOR PEREZ.
UM, SO CAN, ARE WE ABLE TO ALSO MOVE THE CONTRACTOR'S CONTINGENCY BACK IF THEY HAVE NOT SPENT THAT? OR IS THIS AN AG ANSWER BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND AS WELL SINCE THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY, THEY'RE HOLDING IN RESERVES OR IS THAT DOING PART OF THE I'LL JUMP, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IT WOULD BE RETURNED TO THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I'D LIKE A GCM TO CONFIRM THAT FOR YOU.
ONE OF 'EM IS OUR ASPIRATION CONTINGENCY.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PULLING 325,000 FROM.
THAT ORIGINAL NUMBER WAS AROUND 687,000.
SO WE'RE PULLING ABOUT HALF OF THAT OUT TO COVER SOME OF THESE OTHER MOVES WITH THE DISPATCH CENTER.
THE, UH, OWNER CONTINGENCY IS RUNNING ABOUT 80,000 RIGHT NOW, AND THE CM CONTINGENCY IS SITTING AROUND 250,000 RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THE CM CONTINGENCY IS BARTLET COX CONTINGENCY AMOUNT, WHICH THEY'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE FOR DESIGN THINGS AND OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY NEED TO PICK UP TO COVER.
BUT WE'RE SORT OF AT THE END ALREADY, SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE MUCH MORE MOVING PARTS.
WE SHOULD BE GETTING, AND I'VE BEEN PRESSING THEM TO GET ALL THEIR FINAL ITEMS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT SOME STUFF WITH THE VIBE TRAIL AND SOME DIFFERENT THINGS AROUND THE BUILDING.
SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS OUT THERE TO WHERE THEY'RE NOT READY TO GIVE UP THAT MONEY YET MM-HMM.
AND, AND PEREZ, UM, SINCE WE'RE MAKING THIS TRANSFER FROM CASH THAT WE HAD AS DOWN PAYMENT FOR THE BONDS BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND, WILL THIS, UM, WILL THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP OUR INVESTORS KIND OF NOT MA NOT MAKE 'EM SO SO SHAKEN BY MAYBE OUR CREDIT RATING? IS THIS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WON'T AFFECT THE, OUR RATING BOND RATINGS? UM, SHOULD INVESTORS BE NERVOUS ON, ON WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE? UM, NO, NOT AT ALL.
COUNCIL MEMBER ZINGA, THE REASON I AS YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE COVER THE FUNDS, THE SHORTAGE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER IN THIS MANNER.
IT, IT PRESERVES THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE WHEN WE GO BEFORE THE RATING AGENCY.
IF I WAS TO PROPOSE THAT WE TAP THE GENERAL FUND ENDING BALANCE, UH, STRAIGHTAWAY, IT WOULD REDUCE THAT FUND BALANCE.
SO WHEN WE GO BEFORE THE, UH, STANDARD AND POORS RATING, UH, REVIEW BOARD, UH, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE IN RESERVES.
SO RATHER THAN MINIMIZING THE BALANCE, I THINK IT PROTECTS THE CITY'S EXISTING, UH, CREDIT RATING FOR THE INVESTORS.
COUNCIL MEMBER FOR FLORES SCALE.
UM, INSTEAD OF KEEP GOING BACK AND ASKING FOR SOME KIND OF OF INCREASE IN FUNDING, UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A SHELL.
SO, AND I, I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE FURNITURE, WHICH I WISH I WOULD'VE KNOWN WE WERE IN THIS SPOT BECAUSE I WOULD'VE PUT A STOP ON THAT.
WELL, I WOULD'VE VOTED NO FOR FURNITURE AND JUST PUT CUBICLES IN THERE BECAUSE IF, IF WE HAVE TO CUT FUNDING, I, I THINK IT SHOULD COME FROM THAT KIND OF AREA AND NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO PUT US IN THE BIND WHERE WE HAVE TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BAR PLAY THIS GAME OF, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE MONEY OR TAKE AWAY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THAT IS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ANYBODY'S GOAL UP HERE.
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HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT IT DOES, UM, MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT YOU GUYS LOOK TO CUT SOMEWHERE IN THE ADMIN SIDE AND THEN PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL AS AN OPTION.AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF RECONCILIATION BETWEEN CITY STAFF AGENCY IN BAROCK ON WHERE THE PROJECT STANDS, WHAT IS STILL OUT THERE, UM, THAT MAY CAUSE OTHER CHANGES THAT'LL USE UP SOME OF THOSE ALLOWANCES THAT WE STILL HAVE IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE USING THE BEST EFFORT AND THE DOLLARS THAT THE CITY'S GIVEN US TO BUILD THE CITY OR BUILD THIS, UM, STATION FORM.
YEAH, I I THINK IT'S JUST, UH, TO GO TO SAY THAT, UH, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG ROAD FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, THEY ARE SO EAGER TO GET INTO THEIR BUILDING AND OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT EITHER FURTHER, BUT WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE KIND OF CHANGE ORDERS OR LAST MINUTE FUNDING AT THE VERY END, UH, LIKE, LIKE MOST PROJECTS WE HAVE HERE IN KYLE, WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AND WE'RE VERY, UH, EXCITED ABOUT THE, THE, UM, THE CALL CENTER COMING TO KYLE, TO THE POLICE STATION.
BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A POSSIBLY ADDITIONAL COST, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR RESIDENTS, WHEN THEY SEE AN AGENDA ITEM LIKE THIS AND THEY SEE THE ROAD BOND MONEY, IT, IT COMES INTO QUESTION.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I KNOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE, UH, SO IT'S FOR, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE ON ITEM NUMBER 26.
DO WE WANNA WAIT? WE CAN WAIT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY FEEDBACK? I DO.
I, AFTER THAT MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AS WELL ON THE SAME MATTER.
IF I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION AND GO FOR THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, ITEM NUMBER 26, PLEASE SAY AYE AYE.
THOSE OPPOSE MOTION PASSES FOUR TO 1 2 0 4 0 4 0.
I'D LIKE TO ALSO MAKE A MOTION THAT IF ANY MONEY NEEDS TO COME, THERE NEEDS TO BE ANY FUNDING ADJUSTED THAT THAT ALSO COMES FROM THE COUNCIL SIDE, OR I DON'T WANNA SAY COUNCIL FROM THE ADMIN SIDE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, UM, INSTEAD OF COMING BACK TO US FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
SO IF WE COULD CUT FUNDING ANYWAY ON THAT SIDE THAT HAS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD JUST LIKE SIT, PUT, FILL IN IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT?
WELL, I THINK WE'VE ALREADY ORDERED THE FURNITURE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES INSIDE THAT BUILDING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR ALONG THEY ARE.
SO A LARGE MAJORITY OF ALL THE, UM, FF AND E HAS BEEN ORDERED BECAUSE OF LEAD TIMES.
AND SO MOST OF ALL OF THAT HAS COME THROUGH.
YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, YOU VOTED FOR THE FURNITURE AND HAD YOU KNOWN WHAT YOU KNOW AT THIS MOMENT, IT MAY HAVE CHANGED YOUR MIND.
UM, I, SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.
WE, THE FEW ITEMS THAT ARE ON YOUR SHEET ARE SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, FURNITURE PIECES FOR THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER AND SOME DIFFERENT, WE'VE GOT THE LCRA DISPATCH CHAIR SYSTEMS FOR THE DISPATCH, UM, AND THE CALL CENTER, THOSE ITEMS ARE STILL COMING UP TO BE APPROVED FOR COUNSEL.
SO PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S ON THAT SHEET IS WHAT'S LEFT FOR, BUT IT'S ALL, THAT WOULD ALL BE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW IN THE FUNCTIONAL, THE FLEX SPACE AND WHERE THE CITY OFFICES ARE, ALL THAT STUFF IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL FURNITURE PACKAGE.
BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW.
SO IS, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO BRING BACK AS AN AGENDA ITEM TO NO, I MEAN, I COULD, I COULD HAVE MADE A MOTION IN IT, BUT IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD, SO I'LL JUST RETRACT MY MOTION.
I JUST WISH THIS WOULD'VE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO US, YOU KNOW, SIX WEEKS, EIGHT WEEKS AGO.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE WATCHED BACK A LOT OF MY PREDECESSORS MEETINGS WITH Y'ALL AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, COME FORTH FOR THIS AND THAT, AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITHIN THE BUDGET.
UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT CAME UP THAT NO ONE WAS AWARE OF WITH THE MOVE WITH THE COP COG AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT PUT US WHERE WE ARE NOW.
SO CAN I ASK YOU, HOW MANY CHANGE ORDERS DID YOU GET THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS? I MEAN, FROM THE INITIAL, ARE YOU TALKING FULL CONTRACT CHANGE ORDERS OR THE ONES THAT, THE ONES THAT THE, PROBABLY THE MOST SUBSTANTIAL ONES ARE.
SO FOR THE CONTRACT, THERE'S ONLY BEEN THREE CONTRACT CHANGE ORDERS THAT CHANGED THE ORIGINAL GMP FROM WHAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
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41 CONTINGENCY EXPENDITURES, WHICH MOVED MONEY FROM WITHIN THE MM-HMM.THERE HAVE BEEN 14 REVISIONS ISSUED TO THE PLANS AND THERE HAVE BEEN 13 PRICE REQUESTS.
SO THERE THERE'S BEEN SUBSTANTIAL DIRECTED CHANGE FROM THE ORIGINAL GMP.
UM, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE
[35.
Consider and possible action regarding the City of Kyle's proposed Downtown Masterplan. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to deny the plan in its current form and remit back to Planning and Zoning Commission.
- Public Hearing
UH, ITEM NUMBER 35, IT'LL BE IMPOSSIBLE.
REGARDING THE CITY COUNCIL TO CITY OF KYLE'S PROPOSED DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN WILL ATKINSON AND IT DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE OPEN THE HEARING FIRST? OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS.
ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO, UH, INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS BEHALF.
FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE MISS LILA KNIGHT.
THIS PROPOSED DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IS, QUITE FRANKLY, PIE IN THE SKY.
IT FALLS FAR SHORT OF YOUR GOAL FOR A GOLD STANDARD FOR KYLE IN MORE WAYS THAN I CAN SAY IN THREE MINUTES.
I DO WANT TO APPLAUD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR VERY ROBUST REVIEW OF THIS DOCUMENT.
THEY FOUND SERIOUS ERRORS THAT EVEN ESCAPED ME.
I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE REVIEWED, UH, THAT MEETING FROM NOVEMBER 29TH.
IT'S ONLY THREE HOURS LONG, AND THAT'S JUST THEIR DISCUSSION.
THE ENTIRE MEETING WAS FOUR HOURS.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHY STAFF DID NOT INCLUDE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS THAT WERE VOICED BY SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
IF APPROVED, HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THE CITY'S OVERALL MASTER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF APPROVED? HOW WILL THIS RESTRICT VER VIRGINITY IN THEIR WORK TO CONSIDER KYLE AS A WHOLE? THIS CONCERN IS MAGNIFIED BY THE FACT THAT THE DESIGN STANDARDS COMPONENT OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN ALSO ENCOMPASSES ALL OF I 35, THE VIBE TRAIL AND FUTURE KYLE SUBURBS.
IN MY MIND, THE INCLUSION OF THOSE AREAS WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR A DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
WE ALREADY HAVE DESIGNED STANDARDS IN WRITTEN FORM AND ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL FOR THE I 35 CORRIDOR.
THERE IS NO MENTION OF THAT FACT IN THIS PLAN.
THAT BEING SAID, THE I 35 DESIGN STANDARDS AND THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THIS DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN ARE IN VIOLATION OF STATE LAW AS PASSED BY TEXAS HOUSE BILL 24 39 IN 2019.
I DON'T HAVE TIME IN MY LIMITED THREE MINUTES TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF ALL THAT, BUT YOU HAVE PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO INFORM YOU FOR YEARS.
NOW, THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE ORIGINAL TOWN OF KYLE HAVE QUESTIONED WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE BOUNDARIES OF DOWNTOWN.
THIS MASTER PLAN STATES BOTH IN TEXT AND ON MAPS.
OTHER PLACES IT'S 12 BLOCKS, WHICH IS IT, JUST PICK ONE.
AND IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO PROVIDE YOUR CONSTITUENTS WITH A METHODOLOGY ON HOW THOSE BOUNDARIES WERE SELECTED RATHER THAN JUST ARBITRARILY DRAWING LINES ON A MAP.
WE HAVE LITERALLY BEEN WAITING FOR AN ANSWER TO JUST THAT QUESTION FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
AND WITH THIS DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, WE'RE STILL IN THE DARK.
I URGE YOU TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
DO NOT ACCEPT THIS DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AS WRITTEN.
SEND IT BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND SEE IF WE CAN GET A BETTER, A BETTER PRODUCT.
UM, ALTHOUGH I SERIOUSLY HAVE MY DOUBTS.
NEXT WE HAVE, UM, MR. STEVE DELOY FOR THE RECORD.
STEVE DELO, SEAT ONE ON THE PLANNING, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
UM, AS YOU HEARD THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REVIEWED THAT THAT IS NOT MY PURPOSE HERE TONIGHT.
I COME TO YOU AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND, UH, I'M SURE THE, THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE AND,
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UH, AND CITY PLANNING STAFF WILL, UH, WORK WITH COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS. I I HAD A COUPLE OF SIMPLE THINGS THAT PERSONALLY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, IN THE PLAN.FIRST OFF, UH, I WANNA RECOGNIZE ALL THE HARD WORK DONE BY B GK ARCHITECTS AND ALL OF THE INPUT THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THOSE WHO DID PROVIDE INPUT, INCLUDING CITY COUNCIL.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT.
UM, I THINK SOME IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED IN THE PLANT.
THERE IS A DESIGN STANDARD AS PART OF THAT.
AND THEN, UH, THERE IS THE MASTER PLAN FOR, OR SORRY, THE, UH, UH, DOWNTOWN PLANT.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CONTRADICTORY THINGS IN HERE.
SO IN ONE, ONE EXAMPLE FOR EXA, IT SAYS THAT THE GOALS OF THE DESIGN AND STANDARD INCLUDE CELEBRATE KYLE'S HISTORY AND CHARM.
UH, BUT THEN BOTH THE DESIGN STANDARD AND THE PLAN GOES ONTO SITE NUMEROUS ARCHITECTURAL AND, UH, DESIGN FEATURES THAT AREN'T IN KEEPING WITH THAT KIND OF PLAN.
SO THERE ARE SOME BUILDING EXAMPLES THAT ARE SORT OF OLD WESTERN STYLE, AND THEN SOME ARE ULTRA MODERN.
UH, SOME ILLUMINATION EXAMPLES ARE LARGE SUSPENDED, UH, CIRCLES IN THE SKY, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT FITS INTO A HISTORICAL PLAN.
UM, SO I WANT COUNCIL TO COME WITH ONE TAKEAWAY FROM ME PERSONALLY AS A CITIZEN OF KYLE.
I THINK THE MOST SUCCESSFUL DOWNTOWN PLANS HAVE A STRONG THEMATIC ELEMENT TO THEM.
SO I'LL, I'LL GIVE A FEW EXAMPLES.
SANTA FE MADE A DELIBERATE, UH, PUSH TO HAVE A, UH, AN ADOBE STYLE, UH, OLD SOUTHWEST FRONT.
AND THEY WERE ABLE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE THAT.
AND NOW IT'S A, IT'S A GLOBAL SHOWPIECE.
UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS, UH, A COMMUNITY THAT I USED TO LIVE IN, WHICH IS, UH, THE WOODLANDS, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF, UH, HOUSTON.
UH, THAT WAS ALL MASTER PLAN USING AN URBAN PLANNER.
AND IT CAME OUT, UH, TO BE A, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME TO ALL OVER THE WORLD TO SEE HOW A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY IS BUILT.
AND A THIRD IS, UM, THE RIVER WALK AROUND, UH, SAN ANTONIO.
SO I'M SURE IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL KNOW VERY CLEVERLY DONE.
ALL THE WATERWAYS ARE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, ALL PLANNED OUT WITH CERTAIN SIZES AND NUMEROUS BRIDGES, WHICH ARE ALL DIFFERENT, WHICH WAS DELIBERATELY DONE, NO ACCIDENT TO ADD TO THE CHARM OF, OF THAT WALKING EXPERIENCE.
AND SO, UH, I DON'T THINK WE CAN AFFORD A RIVER WALK, BUT WE CAN AFFORD TO COME UP WITH A THEMATIC PLAN THAT, UH, WE ALL AGREE ON THAT WE'LL GIVE DOWNTOWN A CONSISTENT LOOK AND FEEL RATHER THAN A MIX OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PRESERVING OUR HISTORICAL BUILDINGS AND GOING WITH GLASS AND CHROME.
UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PLAN IS.
MAYBE IT IS, UH, PART RAILROAD THEME.
MAYBE IT IS PART HISTORICAL THEME, BUT WE NEED A THEME THEME, OTHERWISE, IT'S JUST ANOTHER JUMBLE OF BUILDINGS.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME TONIGHT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK? OH, WE HAVE, OH, IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, MS. CHAPPA.
UH, JUST TO INFORM Y'ALL THAT NONE OF YOU WERE HERE IN MARCH 19TH, 2019 AND THE CITY HIRED THE, UH, DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE OR ASSOCIATION.
AND IN, IN THE BEGINNING AS IT WAS READING, I'VE GOT THE, THE NEWSPAPER THEY DIDN'T MENTION, UH, ONE OF THE LEADERS SAID TO MOVE FORWARD, TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, I HAVE TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH MY GLASSES TO MOVE FORWARD.
YOU NEED THE CITY STAKEHOLDERS, VOLUNTEERS, AND CITIZENS ON BOARD WITH THE SAME VISION.
AND THEN SHE SAYS, IT'S NOT ONE BIG PROJECT THAT WILL SAVE DOWNTOWN, BUT SMALL CHANGES OVER A LONG TIME AND IN GETTING THE CITIZENS INVOLVED.
UM, THIS WEEKEND WE HAD A, A BIZARRE IN OUR CHURCH, AND I ASKED A LOT OF THE, THE PEOPLE THAT I KNEW THAT LIVED AROUND THE AREA AND ASKED THEM IF THEY KNEW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE DOWNTOWN, UH, MASTER PLAN.
A LOT OF 'EM SAID, NO, THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW A WORD CAN GET TO THESE.
MANY OF 'EM SAID, I DON'T GO ON FACEBOOK.
A LOT OF 'EM SAID, I DON'T EVEN HAVE A COMPUTER.
SO THEY HAVE NO IDEA AS TO HOW WE HAVE NO HOA DOWN AROUND DOWNTOWN.
SO HOW DO THESE PEOPLE, WHERE DO THEY GET THE SURVEY INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE THAT DOES NOT INFECT THEM.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE PEOPLE FROM DOWNTOWN AND NOT PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY HAVE DOWNTOWN, THE, WHENEVER THEY DECIDE TO HAVE SURVEYS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE
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THAT ARE GETTING AFFECTED.SO I, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THE AREA.
WE LIVED HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THEY MOVED TO A SMALL TOWN FEELING WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD.
BUT WHEN THEY START DESIGNING BUILDINGS, THREE STORY BUILDINGS, THAT AFFECTS US AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE A, UH, KYLE LOOK LIKE AUSTIN.
THEY WANTED STORIES, BUILDINGS, HIGH TOWERS, YOU KNOW, THE, WE LIKED OUR LITTLE TOWN STILL WE LIVE IN.
I KNOW THAT THE VISIONS MAYBE OF THE STAFFING.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOME, SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, THEY HAVE THE VISION OF THINKING OF THE DEVELOPERS INVESTMENTS.
SO I FEEL THAT WE NEED TO, UH, TAKE RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE AND THAT LIVE AROUND THE AREA OF DOWNTOWN.
AS ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK REFERENCING THIS AGENDA ITEM, IF YOU DO, PLEASE, UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO FILL OUT ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMON FORMS. YES.
I GUESS MY NAME IS ROMAN CASTILLA AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN KYLE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE ARCHITECTURE WAS THERE AT THAT TIME WHEN THERE WAS ONLY 800 PEOPLE THAT LIVED HERE.
SO IN YOUR MASTER PLAN, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS YOU TRY TO MAINTAIN THE ARCHITECTURE THAT EXISTED BACK THEN.
AND I CONCUR WITH WHAT, WHAT MS. CHA SAID.
DON'T TRY TO MAKE KYLE LOOK LIKE AUSTIN, PLEASE.
I LIVED IN LA I LIVED IN DALLAS.
I'VE SEEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITH RAPID GROWTH.
I'VE SEEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITH UNCONTROLLED GROWTH AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE IN AUSTIN, SOUTH AUSTIN ARE MOVING TO KYLE, RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY HATE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.
SO IN YOUR MASTER PLAN, PLEASE INCLUDE THE ARCHITECTURE WE HAD IN THE PAST, NOT WHAT AUSTIN'S GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT? YEP, GO AHEAD.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OR ZUNI COME.
SO, UH, I DID LISTEN TO THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, MASTER PLAN MEETING.
UM, SO I THINK THE, THE ZONING COMMITTEE DID A VERY GOOD JOB, UM, REVIEWING AND REFERENCING THAT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
THE COMMENTS WERE REALLY GOOD.
UM, THE, AND ALL THE DETAILS THEY PROVIDED TO US, THAT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
UM, SO JUST LIKE TO LET P AND Z KNOW THEY, THEY DID A GOOD JOB REVIEWING AND SUGGESTING MANY THINGS TO US.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START WILL ATKINSON PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
SO BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE THE, UH, Y'ALL JUST HAVE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR Y'ALL.
UH, REGARDING OUR DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO IT DOES REQUIRE A TOTAL OF THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
TWO AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND ONE HERE AT CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THIS IS A VERY EXTENSIVE DOCUMENT.
UH, B GK ARCHITECTS WAS TASKED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, AT THE BEFORE THE END OF, UM, DECEMBER OF 2021 TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A DESIGN FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AHEAD OF OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
THE INTENT WAS OR AND STILL IS FOR THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, UM, FROM A COORDINATION EFFORT TO BE, TO PLUG INTO THE TOTAL CITYWIDE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO I DO KNOW THE BK ARCHITECTS IS COORDINATING WITH THE, THE PERDU GROUP WHO HAVE THE REST OF THE CITY FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL.
UM, THE OVERARCHING THEME TO THIS OVER HALF THE DOCUMENT IS CENTERED SPECIFICALLY ON THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND THE AREA THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COORDINATION BETWEEN STAFF, UM, BETWEEN, UM, STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAD TWO PUBLIC OUTREACH, UM, OPPORTUNITIES.
UH, THERE WAS AN EARTH DAY EVENT AT THE MARY KAY HOUSE, HARSON PARK HERE IN APRIL THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THERE WAS A, ABOUT A MONTH LATER THERE WAS A BIG MOVIE AT THE PARK DEAL OUT AT GREG CLARK PARK.
AND BETWEEN ALL THAT, PLUS ALL THE SURVEYS THAT WE PROMOTED ONLINE, UM, THERE WAS OVER 1200 RESPONDENTS.
THAT'S OVER, THAT'S A LITTLE OVER 2% OF OUR ESTIMATED POPULATION INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS WAS ACTUALLY A REALLY HIGH NUMBER.
AND WE WERE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE RESPONSES THAT WE GOT.
UM, THE BG K GROUP AND AND TEAM, THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WORKING WITH STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS AND AN ADMINISTRATION TO PUT TOGETHER, UM, A DOCUMENT THAT WE BELIEVE IS VERY SOUND.
UM, THEY HAVE A PHASING PLAN FOR, FOR PARKING, UM, HERE AND ALSO BUILD OUT FOR A 12 BLOCK AREA CENTERED AROUND MARY KYLE HARSON PARK.
UH, AS PART OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE KEY, UH, ITEMS THAT THE,
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UM, THE TEXAS DOWNTOWN GROUP DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THEY SAID, YOU NEED A CENTER AROUND YOUR FOCAL POINT FIRST.LET THAT FILL IN AND THEN START EXPANDING OUT FROM THERE AS AN IDEA.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE 12 BLOCK AREA CAME INTO FRUITION.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD DO EVERYTHING WE COULD DO WITHIN THAT AREA FIRST.
AND AS, UH, THAT BUILDS OUT OR IS MOSTLY BUILT OUT, THEN START SLOWLY EXPANDING OUT INTO THE PERIPHERY OF THAT.
NOW THAT WILL BE, TO SOME EXTENT, AS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, IT WILL LOOK PIECEMEAL, BUT AT LEAST WITH A DOCUMENT AS SUCH AS THIS, UH, IT'LL BE A GUIDING DOCUMENT.
SO AS A PROPERTY COMES ONLINE AND SOMEONE WANTS TO BUY IT, WE CAN POINT TO A DOCUMENT AND SAY, OKAY, YOU HAVE TO DO A, B, AND C.
HERE'S THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOCUMENT RELATED TO DOWNTOWN.
UM, LET'S WORK TOGETHER IF YOU WANNA BUY THAT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS.
UM, FROM A DOWNTOWN PARKING PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE CURRENT AMOUNT OF PARKING WE HAVE IS AROUND 376 SPACES.
THAT'S A MIXTURE OF STREET PARKING, A COUPLE OF PARKING LOTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
UH, WITH THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, THERE'S GONNA BE OVER 1100 SPACES, UM, IF FOLLOWED PROPERLY.
IT IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT AND WE EXPECT IT TO BE, BUT UM, IT'S PRETTY EXCITING TO HAVE A UNIFIED PARKING PLAN.
UH, WE ALL KNOW THAT DOWNTOWNS ARE A VERY SPECIAL PLACE AND THEY NEED TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR APPROPRIATELY CUZ WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE, IF WE WANT TO RE, IF WE WANT DOWNTOWN TO DEVELOP IN A MANNER THAT'S EXCITING AND TO HAVE THIS CONSOLIDATING EFFECT AND MASSING EFFECT THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN COME DOWN DOWNTOWN AND JUST ENJOY THE SQUARE AND EVEN LIVE HERE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
UH, PER BG K'S CONTRACT ALSO, THEY WERE TASKED TO DEAL WITH, UM, OTHER SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF THE CITY OF KYLE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ALSO INCORPORATED IN HERE WITH A FOCUS ON THE VIBE AND THE I 35 OVERLAY.
THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A ASPECT OF IT FROM A, UH, SUBDIVISION STANDPOINT, BUT PRIMARILY IT'S THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, THE VIBE, NODES, AND ALSO THE I 35 CORRIDOR TO, UH, TO ACCOUNT FOR CONCERNS RELATED TO THE HOUSE BILL 24 39.
AGAIN, THIS IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT.
ANY FOLLOW UP CODE THAT WILL BE, THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS WILL WITHOUT QUESTION HAVE TO BE 100% LEGAL.
AND WE WILL, WE ARE CONTINUING AND STILL WORKING TO WORK WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT CODES TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH A, A HISTORIC DOWNTOWN, UH, MAIN STREET PROGRAM OR ANY OTHER SORT OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE.
WE WILL DO SO BECAUSE THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
UM, RELATING TO THE MEETING AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THEY HAD A LOT OF IDEAS AND A LOT OF CRITIQUES OF IT, AND THEY ARE ALL VALID.
UM, WE, AS PART OF A DOCUMENT BEING APPROVED, UM, WE EXPECT THERE TO BE COMMENTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THEM WERE RELATED TO JUST SMALL ITEMS THAT CAN BE EASILY TWEAKED AND ACCOUNTED FOR.
UH, THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY DOES, UM, THE, THE TEXAS ARCHITECTURE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE FROM A HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE.
AND THAT MESH BETWEEN MODERN AND HISTORIC.
UM, AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH, UH, BG K TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT WE HAVE NOW, THERE A COUPLE OTHER, A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, THE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ALSO HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN VERSUS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE DID LET HIM KNOW THAT IT WAS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND WORK ON THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
SO WE WERE JUST FOLLOWING THE SCHEDULE FOR THAT.
AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S LARGELY IT THEN THERE.
AND I HAVE THE NOTES IN THERE FOR WHAT WE DISCUSSED OVER AT THE, UH, THE PLANNING AGAINST VOTING COMMISSION AS WELL.
UH, SINCE WE HAD OUR LAST COMMENT, I WANNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING SINCE WE, UH, WE HAD THAT.
SO, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WELL, UM, I APPRECIATE THE PRESIDENTS THAT CAME TO SPEAK, AND I DID WATCH THE, UH, PNC MEETING.
UH, THE FIRST THING I SAW WAS THE TIME
BUT, UM, I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED IN THERE.
SO, UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, I, I WILL, WILL DEFINITELY NOT GO FOR THIS.
WE HAVE DEFINED 12 BLOCKS AND NONE OF IT SEEMS HISTORIC.
AND THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WE SHOULD KEEP DOWNTOWN KYLE, IS A HISTORIC ASPECT OF IT.
EVEN IF WE HAVE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THERE, IT NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE IT'S OLD.
I, IT NEEDS TO REMAIN THAT THAT CHARM NEEDS TO STAY DOWNTOWN AND, YOU
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KNOW, PICTURE AFTER PICTURE, IMAGE AFTER IMAGE, I DON'T SEE ANY OF IT ON IT.SO, UM, I, I AM REALLY NOT FOR AS OF, AS OF RIGHT NOW THE DOCUMENT.
I WILL DEFINITELY NOT GO FOR IT.
SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU.
UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DOWNTOWN THEME IS IN THIS REPORT? IN THIS DRAFT, THE OVERALL THEME IS TO DEVELOP THE 12 BLOCK AREA.
THAT'S THE CENTER FOCUS OF IT.
UM, THERE'S SIX BLOCKS SOUTH OF WEST CENTER STREET AND SIX BLOCKS NORTH OF WEST CENTER STREET, UM, WITHIN, UM, THE EASTERN BOUNDARY BEING THE RAILROAD TRACKS, IF YOU WILL, AND THE WESTERN BOUNDARY BEING NANCE STREET.
UM, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH FORM AND HOW THE BUILDINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO DEVELOP.
YOU PULL THE BUILDINGS UP TO THE RIGHT OF WAY EDGE.
YOU PROVIDE, YOU PROVIDE A LOT OF SIDEWALKS, SUPER WIDE SIDEWALKS, STREET PARKING, WHAT HAVE YOU ADDITIONALLY PROVIDE FOR APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURE AS WELL AS, AS WE'RE ABLE TO, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THE, UH, TEXAS VERNACULAR IDEA IS, IS A THEME THAT IS SPOKEN TO SEVERAL TIMES IN THE DOCUMENT.
AND AS WE ARE WORKING WITH BTK ARCHITECTS, UM, IF IT'S DIRECT, IF IT'S A DIRECTION BY CITY COUNCIL, UM, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, UH, THERE'S MORE VISUALIZATION OF THAT.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MORE HISTORIC FEEL, THAT'S FINE.
UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THE MEETING AND HAVING THIS, THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, SO I GUESS WHAT I WAS GOING FOR, LIKE MY LAST BIRTHDAY, MY THEME WAS OH 45, SO EVERYTHING WAS ABOUT BEING 45.
AND SO IF EVERYTHING I THINK WE'VE SAID OVER AND OVER, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE FRUSTRATION IS WITH B GK, THEY KNOW WHAT WE WANTED AS FAR AS WE WANTED HISTORICAL.
NOW IT'S THEIR JOB TO GO OUT THERE AND APPLY THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY IN HERE.
YOU SEE SOME REALLY NEW MODERN STUFF AND THEN, AND THEN YOU SEE OTHER THINGS.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A VARIETY OF STUFF AND I THINK WE WANT IT ALL TO BE PRETTY UNIVERSAL.
UM, AND SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WHY DO YOU THINK P AND Z UNANIMOUSLY VOTED NO, THERE WAS A THERE, BASED ON THEIR COMMENTS AND THEIR CONCERNS, THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK TO BE, TO HAPPEN ON THIS DOCUMENT.
SO THEY HAD ASKED THAT COUNSEL NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF IT AND REMIT IT BACK TO THEM FOR RECONSIDERATION.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRIMARY, PRIMARILY IT.
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2019 AND THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN DRAFT? WHEN YOU SAY THE 2019, DO YOU MEAN THE TEXAS MAIN STREET IDEA OR THE, OR THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THERE WAS A 2019, UM, COMPREHENSIVE DOWNTOWN PLAN THAT WAS CREATED WHERE THEY, I GUESS THEY ALL WALKED, LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S LIKE AN ADDENDUM.
AND IT'S CALLED THE 2019 DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
I THINK WE GOT THAT IDEA FROM LOCKHART, BUT THAT'S WHAT, WHERE WE GOT THOSE IDEAS FROM WAS FROM THAT DOWNTOWN.
SO MY CONFUSION IS WE NEVER CAUGHT UP TO THE 2019 AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO, YOU KNOW, A 2022, BY THE TIME WE PROBABLY DO IT, WE BE 2023.
SO WE KEEPS SPENDING THIS MONEY AND I DON'T SEE WHERE WE'RE BALANCING THINGS OUT TO MAYBE CATCH UP TO 2019, SEE WHAT THEY HAVE.
I MEAN, IF THE THEME'S ALL GONNA BE HISTORICAL, OUR HISTORY'S NOT GONNA CHANGE.
SO DO WE NEED TO KEEP CONTINUING TO HAVE THESE MASTER PLANS? LIKE WHAT ARE WHAT, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO GET OUT OF IT AS A CITY OFFHAND, I DO NOT HAVE THAT 2019 DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME.
SO TO COMPARE THEM WOULD, WOULD NOT BE A SMART THING FOR ME TO DO.
UH, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC DIRECTION FOR TONIGHT, WHICH, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS, WHICH ARE FANTASTIC, THAT WE PROVIDE THAT.
AND SO WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR MAKING REVISIONS, AND THEN ONE OF THEM, IT MAY BE THAT WE COMPARE THAT AGAINST THE 2019 DOCUMENT AND, AND GO FROM THERE AS WELL.
WELL, MY HANGUP IS ALMOST LIKE I WANT ALL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO BE DONE AS ONE.
NOW THAT I, I SEE, I SAW THIS, I WASN'T REALLY, UM,
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I WASN'T REALLY INTERESTED IN TRYING TO DO THIS OVER AGAIN, CUZ ULTIMATELY THAT'S GONNA COST MORE MONEY.AND SO MY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO INCORPORATE IT INTO JUST THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT WOULD A LOT FOR SOME MORE TIME FOR YOU GUYS, UH, STAFF AND TO COLLECT MORE INFORMATION.
AND THEN I KNOW 1200 IS A LOT, UM, OF, BECAUSE SADLY NOT EVERYBODY WE'RE NOT REAL ACTIVE, BUT, UM, IT'S STILL, FOR ME, IT'S NOT ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY IF, IF WE'RE NOT REACHING THE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.
UM, I KNOW YOU, YOU SAID THERE WAS EARTH DAY, THERE WAS MOVIE IN THE PARK AND THERE WAS ONLINE SURVEYS, BUT WHAT KINDA WALKING AROUND DID WE DO? YOU KNOW, THE LOW CARDS? I HAVE THOSE CARDS.
I ALWAYS PICK 'EM UP WHEN I COME AND I HAND THEM OUT.
UM, MAYBE WE PUT 'EM IN DOORS, MAYBE WE PUT 'EM IN MAILBOXES.
MAILBOXES MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.
JUST MAIL IT ON A POSTCARD TO, TO GET MORE RESPONSES AND THEN TO ALLOW FOR MORE, UM, VARIETY OF RESPONSES BECAUSE AGAIN, PEOPLE WERE KIND OF COMPLAINING THAT, WELL, WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE HAD A CHOICE.
AND I DIDN'T REALLY AGREE WITH EITHER ONE.
SO WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK ARE WE REALLY GETTING AS A CITY? SO FROM A, FROM THE DOWNTOWN MASTERMIND PERSPECTIVE AND OTHER FORMS OF COMMUNICATION TO THE, TO THE, UM, CITIZENS, IF YOU WILL.
UM, AS I UNDERSTAND THE, THE BUDGET OR THE CONTRACT, THE BK ARCHITECTS, AND AS I UNDERSTOOD THE, THE PREVIOUSLY, THE PREVIOUS YEARS, UM, PLANNING BUDGET, UM, THERE WAS VERY LITTLE MONEY SET ASIDE FROM BUDGETARY STANDPOINT FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH.
UH, BK ARCHITECT ARCHITECTS FOR THEIR, UM, FOR THE TWO EVENTS THEY DID, I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE CONTRACT AT ALL.
AND SO THEY WERE VERY GRACIOUS IN ACCOUNTING FOR THAT AND HELPING OUT THE CITY TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
AND, UM, THE, THE SURVEYS, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH JUST ABOUT NO MONEY.
SO, UM, HANDING OUT FLYERS, BEING ABLE TO WALK THE BLOCK, WE HAD OUR, OUR STAFF, WHICH IS MORE ROBUST NOW, WAS VERY LIMITED OVER THE LAST YEAR.
SO WE DID THE BEST WE COULD FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO GIVE THOSE CARDS TO ME AND I WILL GLADLY WALK ANYWHERE I NEED TO.
YOU JUST TELL ME WHERE I NEED TO GO.
UM, CUZ YOU KNOW, IT'S UP TO US TOO IF WE, IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS PROPOSED, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT THE DOWNTOWN TO LOOK LIKE.
AND, AND ALSO, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT YOU ARE IN A RUSH TO DO THIS.
UM, I'VE SAID THIS MORE THAN ONCE ON THE DIAS WE CAN DO IT RIGHT OR WE CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN'T DO BOTH.
SO I PERSONALLY, AS DISTRICT TWO COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M IN NO RUSH.
SO, AND I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA PUT THAT PRESSURE ON P AND Z I EITHER.
AND I, I'M, I WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD, I'M SUPER PROUD OF THEM FOR FEELING LIKE THEY COULD SPEAK UP AND TO GIVE THEIR OPINION AND TO GO AGAINST THE GRAIN, YOU KNOW? UM, I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND, AND I WANT TO EXTEND THE SAME TO YOU TO NOT FEEL LIKE THERE'S PRESSURE FROM US TO GET THIS DONE YESTERDAY OR TOMORROW.
YEAH, WE, UH, WE DO HAVE A, UH, VERY PROACTIVE, UH, PNC AND I'M VERY, I'M VERY PROUD OF THEIR HARD WORK.
YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
UH, I THINK A LOT OF THIS GOES BACK TO THE ROOT OF, OF OUR CITY OF THE ORIGINAL RESIDENTS THAT WERE HERE AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHAT, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER HISTORIC VERSUS SOMEBODY ELSE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE, THE, THE, THE KEY ASPECTS OF THIS.
AND THAT'S MAYBE THE CHALLENGE THAT WE SEE THAT, THAT YOU HAVE A RESIDENT THAT'S BEEN HERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIKES THE CHARM THE WAY IT IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE DOES NEED TO BE IMPROVE.
MAYBE LOOKING AT THE AESTHETICS, IMPROVING THE SIDEWALKS COULD BE A START, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING SOME OF THE LIGHTING THAT'S THERE AND IN INCORPORATE THAT INTO A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I KNOW WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO ON AND SAY, WELL, WE CAN PUT BRAND NEW BUILDINGS UP AND MAKE 'EM LOOK RUSTIC, BUT DOES THAT REALLY BRING THE TRUE HISTORY OF WHAT OUR CITY IS? CUZ THERE'S HISTORY ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THERE'S HISTORY DOWN OVER THERE OFF OF STAGECOACH.
THERE'S HISTORY THAT'S HERE DOWNTOWN AND ALSO ON, ON EAST KYLE AND ALSO OVER THERE IN WEST CO.
SO I THINK IT'S IDENTIFYING REALLY WHAT THE DOWNTOWN, WHAT WE WANTED TO REALLY LOOK LIKE.
AND I'VE BEEN ON A TASK FORCE WITH, UH, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER SHIELD AND ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER DEX ELLISON, WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS THE FOCAL POINT, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAME UP WITH DIFFERENT ASPECTS AND THE AVENUES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAME UP WAS THE SQUARE, RIGHT? LET'S START FROM THERE.
LET'S START FROM THE SQUARE AND BUILD OUT OR LOOK OUT.
BUT I THINK THE MAIN THING IS, IS THAT WE JUST
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CONTINUE LOOKING AT, UH, WHAT OUR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA AND RESPECTING THEIR, THEIR HOMES.IT'S, IT'S, UH, RESPECTING THEIR, UM, THEIR, THEIR WAY OF LIFE AS WELL.
UH, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE LOUD MUSIC THAT'S BEING PLAYED TILL ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, THAT WHAT DOES THE VIBE THAT WE WANNA BRING AND ADDING THAT, LIKE WITH COUNCILMAN FLORES COUNCIL MEMBERS, ADDING THAT TO THE COMPREHENSION PLAN, MAYBE COMBINING ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AND NOT JUST MAKING YOU THINK DOWNTOWN.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE ZONING, A GOOD POINT, WHERE DO THE LINES ARE DRAWN? YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THEY AT? AGAIN, THIS SAME CONVERSATION I HAD WITH, UH, FORMER COUNCILMAN ELSE WHO DREW UP THE LINES, WHERE WERE THEY? AND ALSO, WHEN YOU DO THAT, AND IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ZONINGS LIKE COMMERCIAL ZONINGS, UH, THAT DOES AFFECT PEOPLE'S, UH, WHO LIVE IN THE RESIDENCE OF WHAT KIND OF NON-CONFORMING WORK YOU CAN DO IN YOUR HOUSE AND SO FORTH.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AS A WHOLE AND MAYBE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD ON THAT AND REALLY SEE HOW WE CAN, CAN GO FROM THERE.
SO IT, CAPTAIN FOURS, JUST QUICK TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, IS THERE SOMEBODY HERE FROM BG K? YES, WE DO HAVE TODD KAISER.
UM, HE, HE'S WAITING IN THE WINGS THERE.
UH, TODD, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? YEAH, I'M HERE.
UM, I GUESS IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BG K, CAN YOU TELL US SOME IDEAS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, IN ORDER TO, NOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT, UM, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS MOVING FORWARD? WELL, I THINK WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO VISIT WITH YOU GUYS AND, AND GET SOME MORE DETAIL.
UM, BUT, UM, I CAN'T SAY I, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE HEARING FROM THE, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, UH, AND GETTING THAT, THAT FEEDBACK, WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE TO ME.
I, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS GOING TO STRICTLY HISTORIC IS TOTALLY DOABLE.
AND, UH, I DO WANNA REITERATE THAT IT WAS NEVER AN INTENTION TO MAKE THIS LIKE AUSTIN FROM THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING.
IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT BEING ALL ABOUT KYLE.
SO, UM, CERTAINLY THE PUBLIC COMMENTS RESONATE WITH US AND OUR FIRM AND, UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS RIGHT AND CORRECT.
SO WE WILL WORK TO MAKE THAT ACCEPTABLE FOR, FOR, FOR THE GROUP AND FOR THE RESIDENTS.
AND THEN CAN, I THINK PEREZ IS OFF THE LINE, BUT CAN SOMEONE GIVE US AN AMOUNT ON HOW MUCH WE SPENT ON THIS DOWNTOWN PLAN? JERRY, DO YOU KNOW? I DO NOT.
I DO NOT KNOW, BUT, UH, I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND OUT OR THANK YOU.
IF YOU COULD JUST EMAIL US THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE MOTIONS? THIS IS JUST THE HEARING, RIGHT? THIS IS GONNA COME BACK TO US, CORRECT.
IT, IT CAN, UM, THERE'S ONLY ONE PUBLIC HEARING WITH YOU ALL.
UM, AND YOU'LL HAVE THE OPTION OF TAKING ACTION ON IT RIGHT NOW.
UM, IF IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION, IF YOU ALSO CHOOSE TO SEE FIT TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION OF SORTS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ITEMS THAT Y'ALL HAVE THAT Y'ALL HAVE DISCUSSED TONIGHT FOR, UH, FOR REVISION TO BE MADE, WHETHER YOU WANTED TO GO BACK TO PNC FOR THOSE REVISIONS, OR IF YOU WANT STAFF TO WORK WITH BG K AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
THAT'S HOW Y'ALL WANT IT TO HAPPEN, IS, IS UP TO Y'ALL.
BUT I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS THAT SHOULD FULLY, FULLY BETTER ENCOMPASS, UM, THE IDEAS DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
WHAT WOULD THAT COST THE CITY? WOULD THAT BE AN INCREASE AT ALL FROM B GK BEFORE WE ENGAGE WITH THEM ON THAT SPECIFICALLY? WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WITH THEM NOW.
UM, THE MOTION COULD BE, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO INCLUDE BG K IN THE MOTION ITSELF, BUT, UM, MAYBE A MOTION TO, TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ITEMS DISCUSSED AT TONIGHT'S MEETING.
BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS TIE THE CITY TO BG K IF IT WILL COST MORE MONEY.
IF WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR STUFF ON FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.
SO, LIKE, MAYBE MAKING, I, I'M NOT MAKING THE MOTION YET, BUT A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF BRING BACK CHANGES WITH OUR, UH, REQUESTS, OUR REVISED AND, AND, AND THE RESIDENTS REQUEST.
IS THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH.
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I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO HAVE STAFF BRING BACK, UH, SOME REVISIONS WITH THE INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS AND COUNSEL.AND THE PZ AND P Z CAUSE THEY HIT ON THOSE BIG POINTS.
SO MOTIONS BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES CAL TO BRING BACK, UH, REVISIONS, REFERENCING THE FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS AND P AND Z.
IT'S COUNCIL, UH, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MS. PARSLEY, A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
[37. Discussion and possible action regarding a section of metal barb wire fencing around wastewater treatment plant perimeter adjacent to backyard property of Waterleaf Neighborhood Residents. ~ Miguel A. Zuniga PhD, Council Member]
UP WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37.THAT IS, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A SECTION OF METAL BARB WIRE FENCING AND AROUND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT PERIMETER ADJACENT TO BACKYARD PROPERTY OF WATER LEAF NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.
UH, THIS ONE I BROUGHT TO THE AGENDA BECAUSE, UM, DURING THE THANKSGIVING BREAK, UH, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, THEY WERE SECURING IT WITH SOME BOB WIRE, UH, THAT WAS ADJACENT RIGHT BEHIND THE BACKYARD OF FIVE HOUSES, FIVE RESIDENTS HOMES THAT LIVE IN WATER LEAF.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF SECURITY FOR HOMELAND TO TRY TO PREVENT INTRUDERS FROM COMING IN.
THIS IS A 29 MILLION, UM, TREATMENT PLANT THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
EVERYBODY'S BENEFITING FROM IT.
UM, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF HOW WE MUST KEEP IT PROTECTED.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE CODE, I ASKED, UM, STAFF JERRY AND, UM, THE, UM, PROJECT MANAGERS OVER THERE.
UH, DID WE REALLY NEED TO DO THE BOB WIRE AND, UM, THE BOB WIRE, UM, MEETS CRITERIA, IF IT'S SIX FOOT SEVEN FOOT AND YOU HAVE YOUR THREE STRANDS OF BARB WIRE, UH, ASK THE CITY, WELL, CAN WE JUST DO AN EIGHT FOOT METAL FENCE CHAIN LINK? FORGET THE BOB WIRE CUZ THAT'S ALSO ACCEPTED ACCEPTABLE.
UM, AND REALLY WHAT I WAS, WHAT I WAS ASKING IS, CAN WE JUST DO IT BEHIND THOSE FIVE HOUSES? UM, AND WE CAN SECURE THE ENTIRE PLANT WITH THE BARB WIRE.
UM, THE RESPONSE WAS, WE WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK AS DIFFICULT FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO CLIMB OVER AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE TO DO OUR DUE DUE DILIGENCE AND WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE LIKE THAT.
SO THEN, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE RESIDENTS.
IT'S NOT NICE TO SEE SOMETHING IN YOUR BACKYARD LIKE THAT WHERE YOU CAN LOOK OVER YOUR SIX FOOT FENCE, YOUR PICKET FENCE AND SEE A THREE STRANDED BARB WIRE THAT WAS NEVER THERE BEFORE.
UH, WHEN THESE RESIDENTS MOVED IN, THEY WERE NOT TOLD THAT THIS FENCE WOULD BE COMING IN LATER BECAUSE THERE USED TO BE NO FENCE AS FAR AS, UM, I KNOW, UM, I DID GO AND SPEAK TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS.
I ASKED THEM WHAT WERE THEIR THOUGHTS? THEY SAID, WELL, THEY USED TO WALK THEIR DOG BACK THERE.
UM, THEY USED TO JUST ENJOY IT.
UH, THEY, THEY WERE KIND OF TOLD THAT IT WAS GONNA BE, UM, THIS BIG PLANT AREA THAT WAS KIND OF USEFUL FOR THEM TO WALK OUT THERE.
NOW THEY CAN'T, THEY WERE ALSO UPSET THAT THE FENCE WAS PUT RIGHT UP TO THE EASEMENT.
SO THEY WEREN'T GIVEN THE BENEFIT OF JUST PUTTING THAT METAL FENCE FURTHER BACK.
SO IT JUST KIND OF CAME UP TO THEIR EASEMENT.
ONE OF 'EM SAID THAT IT DOES LOOK DANGEROUS AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY JUST KIND OF ENCROACHED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
SO, UM, I WANTED TO COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF, UM, SOLUTION BECAUSE THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION, SO WE SHOULD FIND A UNIQUE SOLUTION FOR THIS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE AREAS OTHER, UM, PUBLIC THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE ALSO HAVE SECURED, BUT THIS ONE'S A BIT MUCH MORE SPECIAL BECAUSE IT'S A 30 MILLION PLANT.
AND, UM, THESE RESIDENTS DIDN'T HAVE THAT CHOICE.
THEY DID NOT SEE THAT FENCE THERE, UM, WHEN THEY BOUGHT THOSE HOMES.
SO I WAS SEEING IF, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO, UH, REIMBURSE ONLY THE BACKSIDE OF THESE PICKETS FOR THESE RESIDENTS SO THAT WE CAN SET A GOOD EXAMPLE OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AS A CITY THAT WE LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS, UM, WE RESPECT THEIR PROPERTIES AS WELL.
AND, UM, CAN WE COME UP WITH A,
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WITH THE SOLUTION TO BASICALLY, UM, REPLACE THOSE PICKETS, MAYBE GIVE THEM EIGHT FOOT PICKETS, UM, SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE THAT GATED BOB WIRE, WHICH IS, DOES IMPACT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.NOT TO MENTION POSSIBLY THEIR MARKET RESALE VALUE, UM, OF SEEING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, IN THEIR BACKYARD.
SO I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT UP TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER? UH, PARSLEY? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
AND I GUESS THAT WILL BE FOR HARPER.
IS THIS A PERMANENT FENCING OR IS THERE A TIMEFRAME THAT THE FENCE WILL BE THERE? HARPER WILDER, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
THIS FENCE WOULD STAY THERE? YES, MA'AM.
AND IS THERE ANY REASON IT'S THAT HIGH? IS THAT A STANDARD HIGH FOR A FENCE LIKE THAT? SO THE SIX FOOT FENCE WITH THREE STRANDS IS THE ONE THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS GIVE US DISCUSSING.
THERE'S AN EIGHT FOOT, IT USED TO BE EIGHT FOOT WITH ONE STRAND OF BARBED WIRE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT AT SOME POINT THAT WAS CHANGED TO, YOU COULD HAVE AN EIGHT FENCE, YOU COULD HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, AND THAT WAS OKAY, ACCEPTABLE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE WITH BARBED WIRE.
IT JUST MEANS THAT, OKAY, NOW IT'S GONNA BE ACCEPTABLE THAT YOU FOLLOW TCQ GUIDELINES.
SO, UM, WHAT WHAT WE ASKED WAS THOSE EIGHT FOOT FENCES, WHICH IS NOT THAT TALL, WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE NEXT TO IT, YOU CAN SCALE THAT VERY EASILY.
GO TO ANY ONE OF THE, THE, THE STRAIGHT POLES THERE.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE OVER THAT FENCE, UH, VERY QUICKLY AS, AS THIS PLANT CONTINUES TO EXPAND.
AND THIS IS A CENTRAL, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE SITE.
WHEREAS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ IN THE NEWS HERE, UM, THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE ELECTRICAL, ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN IN ONE OF THE OTHER STATES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IT'S A INTERNAL TERRORISM OR WHATNOT, BUT WE OFTEN GO BY HOMELAND SECURITY AND WE TRY TO FOLLOW THEIR MEASURES AS WELL TO PROTECT US AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS CITY, THE ENTIRE CITY ALL GOES TO THAT ONE SITE.
THERE'S NOT ALL THESE DIFFERENT SUBSTATIONS OUT HERE.
EVERY BIT OF WASTEWATER GOES TO THAT ONE PLACE.
SO IN MOVING FORWARD, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE PLANT EXPANSION, THE DAYS OF A BARBED WIRE FENCE OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE MOVED THE CATTLE IN FROM NEXT DOOR BACK AND FORTH TO LET 'EM USE THE AREA TO GRAZE.
IT'S CHANGED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS GETTING US UP TO SPEED WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BACK HERE.
SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
AND SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT WE CAN SCALE THAT, CAN WE SCALE IT DOWN TO THE POINT THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, ABOVE THEIR FENCING? WE CAN, THE EIGHT FOOT VERSUS THE SIX FOOT.
UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA WANT THE EIGHT FOOT.
UM, IT'D BE NICE TO AT LEAST HAVE SOME FORM OF A DETERRENT ON THAT FENCE.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT DOES FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS TO LOOK AT THAT NOW OUT THE BACK OF THEIR PLACE.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF WE RAISED THE FENCE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU KNOW, TO MATCH THAT TO WHERE YOU DON'T EVEN SEE IT, YOU KNOW, THEN MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
I AS AN OPERATOR AS WELL AS TIM, UM, MY DIVISION MANAGERS HERE, UM, AS OPERATORS, YOU ALWAYS, YOU ALWAYS GO WITH THE CAUTION AND YOU WANT MAKE YOUR FACILITY AS SECURE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT IF YOU ALL CHOOSE TO CHANGE THAT OR YOU WANT TO JUST DO AN EIGHT FENCE, THEN, THEN WE ABIDE BY THAT.
WE'LL DO WHATEVER'S ASKED OF US.
I'M JUST HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE SECURITY FOR IT.
SO MAYBE THERE IS A CHANCE FOR US TO DIRECT STAFF TO ENGAGE, AND I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION YET TO, WITH EACH RESIDENT THAT IS BEING AFFECTED BY THE SIDE OF THIS FENCING TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO RAISE THEIR OWN FENCING OR, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS TO THIS.
I DON'T WANNA PUT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN IN ANY JEOPARDY EITHER OR.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD ENGAGE WITH EACH RESIDENT BEING AFFECTED TO SEE WHAT THE POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR IT IS.
SO THE, THE MEETING THAT WAS HAD WAS BETWEEN THE CITY AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER ZAH AND MYSELF.
AND SO WE WENT THROUGH A PLETHORA OF IDEAS OF WHAT CAN WE DO TO BALANCE THE SAFETY VERSUS THE QUALITY OF LIFE
AND SO FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE UP HERE HAS TAKEN A WALK THROUGH THE WASTE WATER TREATMENT CENTER, BUT THEY HAVE JUST A BIG OLD OPEN AREA WHERE THE WATER JUST, AND IT'S NOT, THE CLEAN WATER JUST CLOSED THROUGH AND IT'S DISGUSTING.
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A HOMEOWNER, HOW I WOULDN'T WANNA LOOK OUT MY BACK WINDOW AND SEE IT BEING A PRISON.SO, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ZUNIGA AND UH, DIRECTOR WILDER BOTH HAD THE SAME IDEA OF THE CITY CAN FUND TO JUST DO THE BACKBOARDS.
UM, WHAT I WAS THINKING, TREES.
OH NO, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN DO TREES EITHER, THOUGH.
I THINK THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE REASON WHY THEY DIDN'T WANNA DO TREES, BUT, BUT THE SOLUTION WOULD'VE BEEN TO, TO PAY FOR THEIR FENCE TO GO UP, YOU KNOW, TWO MORE FEET AND THEN THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
AND IT STINKS LITERALLY THAT THEY HAVE TO NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THAT BIG AREA.
UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THIS WASTEWATER TREATMENT CENTER HAS BEEN THERE WAY BEFORE THE SUBDIVISION.
AND SO IT'S, I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A GROWING PAIN.
AND SO WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE SAFETY ASPECT AND THEN OUR RESIDENTS.
AND SO I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD MEDIUM.
AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL.
SO THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE THAT DECISION CUZ WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, IF WE ARE, THEY'RE GONNA PAY FOR THE PICKETS THAT THAT WAS A COUNCIL DECISION.
DID WE, DID WE END UP GETTING A COST ESTIMATE? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF YET, NO MA'AM.
CUZ THIS IS ON, THIS WAS FIVE HOUSES AND IT'S JUST, JUST THE BACK FENCE.
WE, I THINK WE WERE WAITING TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE THOUGHT WAS AND WHICH DIRECTION Y'ALL WANTED TO GO BEFORE WE MOVED FORWARD ON THAT.
I MEAN, AS UGLY AS THAT BARB WIRE IS, I GET THE SAFETY REASON AND I HOPE YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE, I I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT.
AND I DO NEED TO SAY SOMETHING.
CAN SHE COME UP AND SPEAK MR. KILL ONE LITTLE THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE ON OUR, UH, DEED RESTRICTIONS FOR THE HOA, IT'S ONLY ALLOWS FOR A SIX FOOT FENCE.
SO TOMORROW NIGHT WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING I WILL BRING UP TO DO VARIANCES FOR THE EIGHT FOOT SO THAT WE CAN ALLOW FOR THE EIGHT FOOT FOR THOSE FIVE HOMES.
AND THEN THAT WAY HOPEFULLY THE CITY CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT IN THE EIGHT FOOT FENCES FOR THOSE FIVE HOMES ON THE BACKSIDE IF COUNCIL WERE TO, IF COUNCIL WERE TO.
SO, SO I GUESS, UH, WITH THAT, SHOULD WE WAIT FOR YOUR MEETING? GO AHEAD AND WE CAN, I DON'T, I'M TAKE THE, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE HELPFUL IF WE MAKE THAT MOTION THAT, THAT THE HOAC SEES THAT WE'RE SERIOUS AND THAT WE REALLY WANNA DO IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ZAH WANTS TO MAKE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO DIRECT, UH, STAFF TO WORK WITH THEM.
I CAN GET DAVID AND WE HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON IT.
IN THIS SITUATION HERE, IF IT HAS TO DO WITH WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BLOCKING SOMETHING THAT IS OF A CITY, UH, DETERRENT.
YOU, I GUESS YOU COULD ALSO LOOK AT IT AS A DETERRENT AS WELL MM-HMM.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO STIPULATE THAT THE FENCING ACTUALLY THE PICKETS FACE THE HOUSE, NOT THE, UM, NOT THE HORIZONTAL BECAUSE THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE HORIZONTALS ARE WHAT THE YOUNGER KIDS CAN CLIMB.
SO IF WE JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE PICKETS FACE THE HOUSE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO WE'LL TAKE THIS AS A CASE BY CASE SCENARIO THAT, BECAUSE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN LATER ON IS SOMEBODY ELSE MAY CATCH WIND AND SAY, WELL, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT THE WATER TOWER LOOKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
OR WHY IS THE CITY PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, ITS ONE OF THESE WERE YES.
SO THESE HOMES HAVE BEEN THERE FOR THAT.
SO, BUT TO CLARIFY, AND THIS ONE'S UNIQUE TO BES BECAUSE THERE'S A STACK OF OTHER LAYERS REALLY, THAT THEY HAVE FACED WITH THE TREATMENT PLANT AND EXPANSION.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE JUST POINTING ONE THING OUT.
AND THAT'S WHY I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, THIS GOES THROUGH MR. ZYNGA, IT'S UNIQUE.
BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO SEE AND MAYBE POSSIBLY SMELL WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
YOU KNOW, THAT WE MAKE IT A DIRECTIVE THAT WAY.
SO WHEN IT, IF IT DOES COME UP AGAIN RIGHT.
THAT IT SAYS THAT WE DID IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHY CAN'T YOU DO IT? MINE WE'RE VERY, VERY FAIR ON THAT BALANCE THERE.
TO CLARIFY, I SAW THE PICTURE.
YOU CAN LEAN OVER AND TOUCH THE FENCE FROM THE INSIDE OF THEIR HOUSE.
SO THIS FOR ME IS A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THE BARBED WIRE AS WELL.
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JUST UGLY.ALTHOUGH THAT IS AN ISSUE, IT'S ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE.
WE DON'T WANT THE KIDS BEING ABLE TO TOUCH THE BARBED WIRE OR TO, OR TO BE, BE INVOLVED WITH THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.
SO TO YOUR POINT, YES, IT'S, THIS IS NOT AN EVERYDAY ISSUE.
THIS IS BARBED WIRE UP AGAINST A FENCE WHERE CHILDREN LIVE AND, AND PEOPLE CAN, CAN ACCESS IT.
DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS? UH, MOTION TO, HOW DO I WORD THIS? DIRECT STAFF.
OH, I'M GONNA LET YVONNE MAKE THE MOTION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS IN ORDER TO, UM, REPLACE JUST THE BACK PANEL OF THE FENCES THAT TOUCH, UM, THE, THE CITY'S WIRED FENCES.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE TO DIRECT STAFF, UH, REFERENCING, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? OKAY.
NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO CONSENT.
THE AGENDA ITEMS. JESUS
[VI. Consent Agenda]
CONSENT THE AGENDA, IT ITEM CONSENT THE AGENDA ITEMS, UH, OR PULL UP.IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO PULL AN ITEM? UH, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE, UH, NO POSTPONE.
WHERE IS IT? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLOOR SCALE.
I'D LIKE TO PULL AGENDA, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 13 AND 14.
ANYBODY ELSE? LET ME FIND THAT.
WHERE IS, UM, 13 AND 17 AND 17.
WELL, WITH THAT I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEMS. 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 18, 19 IN 22ND.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES CAL.
ALL THE FAVORS SAY THOSE FAVORS SAY AYE.
A MOTION PASSES ON THOSE ITEMS. FIVE TO ZERO.
[13.
Approve an agreement with AFFION PUBLIC, LLC, Hershey, Pennsylvania, for City Manager search services in the amount of $28,000.00 plus reimbursement for any travel expenses incurred for candidate travel to meet with the City Council. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager
]NEXT UP WE'RE GONNA HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.UH, APPROVE AN AGREEMENT WITH FON PUBLIC, UH, PENNSYLVANIA MANAGER TO SEARCH FOR SERVICES AND THE AMOUNT OF 28,000 PLUS REIMBURSEMENT FOR ANY TRAVEL EXPENSES AND OCCURRED FOR CANDIDATES TRAVEL, UH, TO MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL.
THIS, UH, THIS WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MAYOR FLORES KE.
IS UH, LEGAL ON THE PHONE? YES.
SO I HAVE, UM, JUST THREE THINGS THAT I WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON IN THIS AGREEMENT.
UM, AND NUMBER ONE, THE LAST SENTENCE, STATES FIRM MUST NOTIFY CLIENT IN WRITING IF IT ANTICIPATES THAT ANY OF THE SERVICES TIMES OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN THE PROPOSAL WILL NOT BE MET.
SO, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE NOTIFICATION, BUT FOR SERVICES AND TIMES, IF THEY'RE NOT MET, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF CONSEQUENCES.
MAYBE, UM, FOR TIMES WE CAN ALLOT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
AND FOR SERVICES, I WOULD LIKE A DEFINITION OF THAT WORD.
AND THEN DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST GO THROUGH ALL THREE OF 'EM AND THEN YOU CAN ADDRESS THEM? WELL, UM, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IF WE, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONTRACT THROUGH ALL THREE ITEMS ON THE CONTRACT OR ALL THREE ITEMS? UM, THREE AGENDA ITEMS? NO, JUST THE ITEMS IN THE CONTRACT.
SO FOR NUMBER TWO, UM, IT HAS A TIMELINE AND FOR PAYMENT, AND I WAS WONDERING, UM, THERE IS AN OUTLINE IN THE PROPOSAL.
CAN WE INCLUDE APPROXIMATE DATES
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IN THIS AGREEMENT TO GO WITH EACH OF THE PAYMENTS THAT ARE DUE? SO MEANING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS A NON-REFUNDABLE ONE-THIRD UPON SIGNING AND THEN WE ADD A DATE AND THEN ONE THIRD UPON ACCEPTANCE OF THE CANDIDATE AND THE, UH, AND THEN WE ADD A DATE, CUZ I THINK THERE IS A TIMELINE.AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THE THIRD, THE FINAL THIRD PAYMENT UPON FILLING THE POSITION.
SO IF WE CAN PUT AN APPROXIMATE DATE ON ALL OF THOSE THAT COINCIDE WITH THE PROPOSAL.
AND THEN ARE YOU READY FOR THE LAST ONE? YES.
SO FOR NUMBER, UM, 10 NOTICES, UM, SINCE THIS IS THE ONLY EMPLOYEE BLESS YOU, THAT THE CITY, UM, THAT THE, THE COUNCIL OVERSEES THEN FOR NOTIFICATIONS UNDER CLIENT, I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE THE NIGHT LAW FIRM AND THEN ALL OF COUNSEL.
I, I, I KIND OF FIND IT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE THE INTERIM MANAGER IN NOTIFICATIONS REGARDING THEIR POSSIBLE BOSS.
I, I THINK JUST FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT AT SOME ACTION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN, IT, IT WOULD, OKAY.
LIKE IF THERE'S A CONTRACT, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO STILL INCLUDE THE INTERIM MANAGER, BUT INCLUDING THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN ADD TO THIS CONTRACT.
YEAH, IF WE CAN INCLUDE ALL OF COUNSEL TO THE NOTICES, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.
SO DO I NEED TO PUT, MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT? OR JUST A MOTION TO APPROVE ACCORDING TO, OKAY.
DID I GIVE YOU, DID, DID WE GET ENOUGH, UM, DIRECTION PAGE? YES.
UH, SO I HAVE THE ADD COUNSEL TO NOTICES AS WELL AS THE INTERIM MANAGER ADD THE DATES FOR, UH, IN THE CONTRACT THAT COINCIDE WITH THE PAYMENTS.
SO THERE'S A SCHEDULE THAT'S THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW RELATED TO THE, THERE'S A SCHEDULE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW RELATED TO THE PROPOSAL, THE, THE PROPOSAL.
AND SO ADD THAT INTO THE CONTRACT RELATED TO THE PAYMENTS DEFINED SERVICES.
AND, UH, THERE WAS A FINAL ITEM RELATED TO THE TIME, IF YOU DON'T MIND REPEATING THAT FINAL ITEM.
UM, SO ACTUALLY NUMBER ONE IN, WELL, FOR TIMES I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, UM, IN THE VERY LAST SENTENCE, UM, WHERE IT SAYS, FIRM MUST NOTIFY CLIENT IN WRITING IF IT ANTICIPATES THAT ANY OF THE SERVICES TIMES OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS AND THE PROPOSAL WILL NOT BE MET.
SO FOR TIMES I WOULD LIKE, UM, A NUMBER OF DAYS FOR THEM TO FIX THE PROBLEM AND THEN FOR SERVICES TO DEFINE THAT.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO, TO PUT CONSEQUENCES IN THERE IF FOR SOME REASON THEY CAN'T PROVIDE A CERTAIN SERVICE OR IF IT'S THEIR, UH, IF THEY CAN'T TIMELY FIX ANY OF THE ISSUES, UH, TYPICALLY YOU'D HAVE A CONTRACT TERMINATION.
YOU COULD HAVE A CONTRACT TERMINATION FOR FAILURE TO, TO FIX, UM, A, A PERFORMANCE ISSUE UNDER THE CONTRACT.
SO YOU GIVE A NOTICE OF DEFAULT AND A TIME TO CURE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THERE.
SO, SO MOTION WAS BEEN MADE, UM, FOR, I DISCUSS, I ADD HAD ONE OTHER THING.
ALSO ON THEIR BILLING AND PAYMENT, THEY SAY THAT IF, UM, IF THE CLIENT THAT THEY, OR THAT WE CHOOSE IT DOES NOT WORK OUT, UM, DURING THE FIRST TWO YEARS, THAT THEY'LL PROVIDE ANOTHER ONE FOR US USING THEIR REASONABLE, UM, REASONABLE METHOD.
EXCEPT THEY WON'T PAY BACK ANY TRAVEL EXPENSE.
BUT DO WE, COULD WE PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT KIND OF MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE URGENT FOR THEM TO START LOOKING FOR SOMEONE IF IF AFTER TWO YEARS, UM, WE LOSE THE, THEIR PLACEMENT, LIKE MAYBE THEY HAVE TO START INITIATE SOMETHING WITHIN, WITHIN TO BASICALLY EXPEDITE THAT CONTRACT TOO.
CUZ YOU CAN SEE WHERE, WHERE THEY COULD JUST STAGNATE ON, STAGNATE ON IT IF,
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UM, WE LOSE THE, IF WE LOSE A CITY MANAGER AND THEN WE'RE WAITING ON THEM TO FIND US ANOTHER ONE, BUT WE'RE NOT, UH, A PRIORITY AND JUST, UH, SOME OF THESE ARE, ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AS FAR AS ADDING A, ADDING A DEFINITION OF SERVICES, ADDING NOTICES.I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT IF WE'RE GET CHANGE, IF WE CHANGE BUSINESS TERMS TO A MATERIAL EXTENT, WE WILL JUST NEED TO CONFIRM WITH THE BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE AGREEABLE TO THAT.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVE THERE THAT COULD SPEAK TO THIS.
UM, SO I, I THINK WHAT WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IS PROBABLY REASONABLE.
IF STAFF HAS HAD ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BUSINESS THAT YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO SPEAK TO 'EM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE AGREEABLE TO, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THE REASON I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT THIS WAS A PROVISION THAT, UM, STAFF DISCUSSED WITH THE BUSINESS.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY SAID, UM, THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO USE IT.
THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO USE THAT POLICY, UM, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER THEM SAYING.
AND THIS SECTION THAT YOU'RE IN IS, IS IN, IT'S IN THAT BILLING AND PAYMENT SECTION.
SO JUST IN CASE THEY EVER DID HAVE TO USE THAT POLICY, WE WOULDN'T WANNA BE WAITING AROUND OKAY.
TO PUT A REASONABLE TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO INITIATE START INITIATING THOSE EFFORTS.
MAYBE THE SAME, THE SAME SCHEDULE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO USE FOR YOUR CURRENT SEARCH THAT THEY WOULD START WITHIN, I DON'T KNOW, X NUMBER OF DAYS OF GIVING, GETTING NOTICED BY THE CITY AND FOLLOW THE SAME SCHEDULE THAT THEY FOLLOWED FOR THIS SEARCH.
WOULD THAT, THAT SEEMS THAT, LIKE, THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE.
MAYBE START, START WITHIN, START WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 15 DAYS OR START WITHIN 30 DAYS OF NOTICE BY THE CITY.
BECAUSE I MEAN, SEARCH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD BE INTO A NEW CITY MANAGER AND THEN THREE, SINCE IT'S GONNA, IT'LL BE A NEW PERSON SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW THEY'RE GONNA FIT.
LIKE AS SOON AS THEY GET HERE AND THEN MAYBE THREE, FOUR MONTHS LATER THEY DON'T WORK OUT.
SO NOW WE HAVE TO INITIATE THIS NEW RESEARCH OF, OF ANOTHER PERSON.
I, I'D PROPOSE THAT THEY HAVE TO START WITHIN 30 DAYS OF NOTICE BY THE CITY AND THEN FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY THE SAME SCHEDULE THAT THEY'VE USED FOR SEARCHING FOR THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT'D BE GREAT BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A CITY MANAGER FOR A WHILE SO I THINK IT'S, WE'VE GOTTA KIND OF KEEP, KEEP SOME PRESSURE ON IT.
MOTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 13, UM, INCORPORATING THE, UH, EDITS THAT WE DISCUSSED DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING.
MOTIONS BEEN, UH, MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE ACCORDING TO THE AMENDMENTS THAT SHE'S REQUESTING.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
THOSE, ANY DISCUSSION ON IT? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IF I MAY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET HOLD OF SCOTT RILEY WITH AON DURING THE REMAINDER OF THIS MEETING AND WORK OUT THOSE CONTRACT TERMS AND BRING BACK REVISED CONTRACTS SO WE CAN STILL GET IT APPROVED THIS EVENING IF YOU'RE AMENABLE TO THAT.
[14. Approve Task Order No. 4 to PAPE-DAWSON ENGINEERING, INC., Austin, Texas, in an amount not to exceed $65,100.00 for preparations of construction documents and technical specifications for proposed improvements to the chlorine injection systems at the Yarrington Road facility and the Lehman Road facility. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
NEXT AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER 14, UH, APPROVE A TASK ORDER NUMBER FOUR, UH, PUBLIC DYSON ENGINEERING AUSTIN, TEXAS, THE AMOUNT OF 65,100 PREPARATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS FOR PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CHLOR AND CHECK SYSTEMS AT YARRINGTON ROAD.
UM, MY ONLY QUESTION WAS HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE LEFT IN THAT CIP FUND? GOOD EVENING COUNCIL SANFORD FOR THE RESTORATIVE RECORD.
SO THIS ITEM WAS APPROVED IN THE PHYSICAL YEAR 23 CURRENT BUDGET.
UH, WE WERE AWARDED $140,000 TO CONDUCT THIS WORK AT THESE FACILITIES.
UM, ONE THING WE DID ANTICIPATE IS SOME OF THE COSTS WERE
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INCREASED BECAUSE OF RECENT EVENTS.AND SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH EZ AND FINANCE AND WE ARE GONNA USE SOME MY REHABILITATION BUDGET THAT WAS AWARDED IN THE SAME BUDGET YEAR, THIS BUDGET YEAR TO COVER THE ADDITIONAL COST.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? UM, KINDA, I GET, I, IT MIGHT BE BEST JUST TO HAVE PEREZ WRITE ME AND LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH IS LEFT.
IS THERE NOTHING LEFT IN THAT FUND? SO 140 WAS BUDGETED FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, THIS IS COMING OUT OF THAT.
SO WHAT, WHATEVER THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT IS, AND THEN WE'RE AWARDED, I BELIEVE, I DON'T WANNA GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC NUMBER, BUT IT WAS IN THE REALM OF 500,000 FOR TANK REHABILITATION.
AND THIS IS A FACILITY THAT WE'RE GONNA USE THOSE FUNDS, A PORTION OF THOSE FUNDS TO ALSO COVER.
I CAN GIVE YOU SPECIFIC NUMBERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE THOSE AND THEN GET 'EM SENT TO YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IF YOU'D LIKE.
BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION TO AN EXTENT.
AND SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS FROM THE ONE 40, WE'RE JUST GONNA USE 65 TO PAY FOR THIS.
WE ARE GONNA USE THE 65 AND THEN FOR THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE CONDUCTED, UH, AND THE MATERIAL THAT HAS TO BE PURCHASED, WE'RE GONNA USE THE REMAINDER OF THAT PLUS WHATEVER'S NEEDED OUTTA REHABILITATION FUNDS.
BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS JUST TO PAY FOR THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS DRAWINGS.
AND WE STILL HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE TO COME BACK OUT AND ACTUALLY DO THE INSTALL AND, AND PASS IT ENGINEERING WISE.
PAY DAWSON IS HANDLING THE SERVICE FOR DESIGNING THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT THEY'LL BE, UH, THE, THE, THE LIAISON FOR THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THE WORK'S BEING CONDUCTED APPROPRIATELY.
AND BECAUSE THE, THE, THE PAST CHLORINE INJECTORS WERE FAILING OR THEY WERE JUST BAD, BADLY INSTALLED, I MEAN, SO WAS THERE A WARRANTY ON ANY OF THAT FROM THE INITIAL CONTRACTOR? BOTH OF THESE FACILITIES ARE, I WOULD SAY 10 PLUS YEARS OLD.
SO A NEW WARRANTY PERIOD IS COMING AND GONE.
UM, THE CURRENT SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN PLACE ARE VERY INADEQUATE FOR THE NEEDS OF BOTH THOSE SITES.
UM, THE TWO SITES, JUST TO GET A LITTLE EMPHASIS OF WHY I SAY THAT IS MM-HMM.
AND SO IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE, UH, CHLORINE FEED APPLICATIONS AT BOTH THOSE SITES TO PROPERLY DOSE MONITOR AND ALARM IF NEED BE TO, UH, ESSENTIAL STAFF TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF ANY PROBLEMS. SO IT'S GAS'S CHLORINE? YES SIR.
AND TO FOR DISINFECTION? YEAH.
ANYBODY ELSE? MOTIONS MOTION TO APPROVE 14 I ITEM 14.
AGAIN, COUNCILMAN OF FLOOR KILL ALL THOSE FAVORS SAY AYE.
THOSE OF THOSE MOTION PAST FIVE ZERO I.
[17.
Authorize award and execution of a 3-year license agreement with ESRI, Redmond, California, in an amount not to exceed $38,500.00 per year for a total of $115,500.00 for the 3-year term, to provide access to and support for ArcGIS Enterprise software for geographic information and mapping system for the City of Kyle. ~ William Atkinson, Director of Planning
]NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17, AUTHORIZED AWARD EXECUTION OF A THREE YEAR LICENSE AGREEMENT.ESRI REVENUE, CALIFORNIA IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 3,500 PER YEAR FOR THE TOTAL OF 150,003 YEAR TERM TO PROVIDE ACCESS AND TO SUPPORT FOR ARC GIS ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE FOR GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION MAPPING.
SO I WENT TO LOOK AT THE WEBSITE AND GOT LOST IN THERE FOR LIKE 30 MINUTES.
UM, MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE JUST GETTING THIS FOR MAPPING? IS IT JUST IS GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION WE'RE USING? I CAN SEE THAT YOU CAN DO APPLICATIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, AND THAT YOU CAN OBTAIN AND COLLECT DATA THAT WE CAN USE LATER ON.
SO I WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WANNA DO WITH THAT.
UM, THE, THE MOST VISIBLE ASPECT OF OUR GIS IS THE MAPPING SOFTWARE THAT OUR TEAM CURRENTLY HAS.
WE HAVE TWO GIS, UH, ANALYSTS ON STAFF.
UH, THIS AGREEMENT WILL EXPAND ACCESS TO THE REST OF THE CITY BECAUSE WE'VE MET A CERTAIN POPULATION THRESHOLD.
OUR, UH, ESRI, UH, REQUIRES TO HAVE ENTERPRISE LICENSE TO ALLOW MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS TO USE IT.
AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO COLLECT DATA ON LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, FOR THE POLICE WORK FOR LIKE CRASHES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND BE ABLE TO MAP THAT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING FOR THEIR MORE, A MORE ROBUST SYSTEM FOR, UM, KEEPING A DATABASE ON THE, ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE.
SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING, UM, WHAT THEY'RE INCLUDING IN THIS.
WE GET THREE, UH, COMPLIMENTARY REGISTRATIONS FOR THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY HAVE OUT IN SAN DIEGO.
I THINK, UM, IT'S, WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
HONESTLY, I JUST WENT LAST NIGHT AND WAS PLAYING WITH IT.
IT WAS REALLY, REALLY EXCITING.
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BE, UM, WILL OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THIS? THAT IS A QUESTION I CAN'T ANSWER, BUT WE CAN GET YOU THE FOLLOW UP ANSWER ON THAT.SO, UM, I DO KNOW THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN LICENSE WITH ESRI AS WELL.
AND WILL THEY HAVE, I JUST, IT JUST CAME TO MY MIND AS I, AS I SEE ALL THE BENEFITS THAT, YOU KNOW, DOING THIS CONTRACT HAS, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST CAME TO MIND.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE, WE CAN KIND OF OFFER AN EXTENSION.
PROBABLY NOT ON THIS FISCAL YEAR.
UM, THIS IS A, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONTRACT WRAPPED UP.
UM, AS OF PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, SO WE CAN GET IT OPERATING FOR JANUARY 1ST.
SO, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN, I'LL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION AND WHATEVER THE ANSWER MAY BE.
I JUST SAW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE RESPONSE TIME ON EMERGENCIES AND, UM, THEY CAME TO MIND.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE ITEM 17 SECOND.
UM, MOTION'S BEEN MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KILL THAT.
WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 17 IN DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
DOES THIS INCLUDE ANY KIND OF TRAINING? LIKE WHAT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IF YOU GO MICROSOFT, THEY'LL TRAIN YOU ON CERTAIN THINGS.
CAN, CAN COUNCIL GET SOME TRAINING ON THIS? CAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN HOW TO USE THIS AND, AND BE KNOWLEDGEABLE.
IT PROBABLY DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY ACCOUNT FOR, UM, COUNCIL TRAINING.
UM, THERE, THERE PROBABLY IS SOME FOR, UH, STAFF, BUT WE CAN ASK IF Y'ALL CAN UM, IF Y'ALL CAN SIT IN ON TRAINING, BUT I DON'T YOU GUYS CAN TRAIN US ON A FRIDAY NIGHT
THAT'S, I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT.
[21.
Authorize award and execution of a Purchase Order to SPA SKATEPARKS, Austin, Texas, in an amount not to exceed $1,000,000.00 for the design and construction of a Skatepark at the City's Gregg-Clarke Park. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation
Parks and Recreation Board voted 5-0 to recommend approval.
]ALL RIGHT.NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION WITH 21 AUTHORIZED AWARD AND EXECUTION OF PURCHASE ORDER FOR SPA SKATE PARKS, AUSTIN, TEXAS, IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED A MILLION FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A SKATE PARK AT CITY'S CRAIG CLARK PARK, MARIA ESPINOZA, MARIA ESPINOZA, MARIA SPINOZA PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
UH, WE ARE EXCITED TO BRING YET ANOTHER PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR GREG CLARK PARK, UM, BEFORE YOU ON THE EVE OF ALMOST A COMPLETION OF OUR IRRIGATION PROJECT.
SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND S SPA SKATE PARKS FOR APPROVAL, UM, FOR THE SKATE PARK AT GREG CLARK PARK.
UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE CITY OF KYLE'S BOND IN 2020, UH, INCLUDES A MILLION DOLLARS FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS AT GREG CLARK PARK, UM, INCLUDING A SKATE PARK, IMPROVEMENTS TO ASH PAVILION.
WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED IRRIGATION AND A SPLASH PAD.
UM, SINCE THEN, THE CITY HAS ENTERED ENTERED INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HAY COUNTY IN WHICH HAYES COUNTY WILL MATCH THE CITY'S BOND FUNDS.
UM, FOR ALL THE PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, WE DID COMPLETE THE RFQ PROCESS.
UH, THE PARK BOARD HAS REVIEWED, UM, PARK BOARD VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND S SPA SKATE PARKS, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY A SEVEN MONTH, UH, TIMEFRAME FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
THE DESIGN PROCESS DOES INCLUDE SSPA WORKING WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS AND WORKING WITH STAFF.
UM, AND WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE, UM, REPRESENTATIVE FROM SBA SKATE PARKS HERE AS WELL AS OUR PARK BOARD CHAIR, UM, PERSON AMANDA STARK.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REFERENCING NUMBER 21, COUNCIL MEMBER FLOOR SCALE? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU GUYS.
THIS WAS THE BEST PROPOSAL I'VE SEEN IN MY TWO YEARS ON COUNCIL, WHICH IS NOT VERY LONG, BUT I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THEY PROVIDED, I AND THE, THE PARKS THAT THEY HAVE AND THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT THEY ADDED AND THEY INCLUDED.
AND THE FACT THAT YOU GOT ALL YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL, THIS IS WHAT EVERY AGENDA ITEM SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
IT MADE IT EASY FOR ME TO DECIDE.
AND I THINK I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION AND I DIDN'T EVEN WANNA ASK IT, BUT I WAS TRYING TO BE FAIR.
UM, AND, BUT WE GOT THE ANSWER AND I HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 21.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 21.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND BY COUNCIL
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MEMBER PART.UM, ASH BRADSHAW, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.
[24. Consideration and approval of a resolution approving the City's plan of finance pertaining to the contemplated issuance of obligations to be designated as "City of Kyle, Texas General Obligation Bonds, Series 2023"; authorizing City staff and the City's financial advisor and bond counsel to proceed with this plan of finance; and authorizing other matters related to the foregoing. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright US LLP (City's Bond Counsel)]
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, THE NEXT IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL NUMBER 24 CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CITY'S PLAN OF FINANCE PERTAINING AND TO THE COMPLICATED ISSUANCE OF OBLIGATIONS TO BE DESIGNED AS CITY OF KYLE'S GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SERIES 2023, AUTHORIZING CITY STAFF AND CITY FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND BOND COUNCIL TO PROCEED WITH THIS PLAN OF FINANCE AND AUTHORIZING OTHER MATTERS.AND FOR THIS IS THE MS. STEPHANIE LI.
I'M MARK MCCLANE WITH SAM CO CAPITAL MARKET.
STEPHANIE LIVEY WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT, UH, BOND COUNSEL.
I'M FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO THE CITY.
UM, THE RESOLUTION, WHICH, WHICH STEPHANIE WILL TOUCH ON IN, IN IN A MOMENT IS TYING TO THE PROPOSED BOND ISSUE THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF MET, UM, LAST WEEK TO GO OVER WHAT WE'RE GONNA ISSUE THE FIRST SET OF BONDS AND COME UP WITH A TIMETABLE WHERE YOU ALL WOULD TAKE A FORMAL ACTION.
WE WANTED THIS TO PRESENT TO YOU NOW SO THAT WHEN WE DO GET THE FORMAL ACTION, YOU'RE NOT SEEING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
SO THAT THE, UH, ORIGINAL BOND ISSUE FROM THE STREET BONDS IS GONNA BE 45 MILLION.
THAT'S THE FIRST SEED MONEY FOR THE MAJOR STEPS THAT ARE GONNA BE GOING FORWARD.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA USE 2 MILLION OF THE PARKS BONDS FROM, UH, THE 2020 ISSUE SO THAT THE PROPOSED FIRST BOND ISSUE WILL PUT 47 MILLION OF CONSTRUCTION FUNDS OR PROJECT FUNDS INTO THE CITY'S COFFERS FOR THESE VOTED VOTED PROJECTS.
TODAY WE'RE BRIEFING YOU ON, ON THE PLAN, BUT REALLY IS REALLY GOING OVER THE CALENDAR.
WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING WITH PREVE, WITH STAFF AND WITH BOND COUNCIL IS PREPARING AN OFFERING DOCUMENT, GETTING THAT OFFERING DOCUMENT OUT TO THE RATING AGENCIES, AND THEN EVENTUALLY TO POTENTIAL PURCHASERS AND HAVING, UM, BOND SALE AND BOND PRICING ON JANUARY 17TH, WHICH IS A COUNCIL MEETING DATE.
UH, SO WE'LL COME IN ON THE 17TH WITH FINAL INTEREST RATES SUBJECT TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
ONE MONTH AFTER THAT, UH, FEBRUARY 15TH, FUNDS WILL BE IN THE CITY'S ACCOUNTS.
UH, WE'RE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT PROMISES THAT WE MADE TO THE VOTERS ON TAX RATE.
WE DON'T SEE, UH, THIS FIRST ISSUE.
WE MAY HAVE A FUTURE ISSUE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT THIS FIRST ISSUE WON'T PUSH US UP TO THE MAXIMUM THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BOND ELECTION.
UM, WE WILL BE, AGAIN, POSSIBLY HAVING A FOLLOW ON ISSUE DEPENDING HOW QUICKLY FUNDS ARE, UH, EXPENDED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERVIEW THAT WE HAD.
UM, I JUST WANTED YOU TO SEE IT, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, STEPHANIE WILL ADDRESS THE ACTUAL, UH, RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
MAY I, HIM, COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHANIE LIVE ROSE FULBRIGHT BOND COUNCIL FOR THE CITY.
UM, AS MARK JUST OUTLINED, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE STATE IS JUST A RESOLUTION, UH, WHERE YOU WOULD DIRECT STAFF OUR FIRM AS BOND COUNCIL AND MARK'S FIRM FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLAN OF FINANCE AND TO BRING THE BONDS TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL AT YOUR JANUARY 17TH MEETING.
SO, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE ABOUT THE BONDS OR ABOUT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUICK QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FLORES? KE ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT AMOUNTS.
ONE WAS 37 MILLION IN THE BACKUP, AND THEN 47 MILLION IN THE HANDOUT THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED TODAY.
SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH 47 MILLION? AND, AND THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, VE I HOPE HE'S STILL ON.
UM, WE, WE REVIEWED IT WITH VEZ AND WITH STAFF AND, UH, USED THE
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DRAW DOWN SCHEDULE THAT THE ENGINEERS PROVIDED WITH THE TIME THEIR TIMETABLE AND CAME UP WITH THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT.SO THE ENGINEERS PROVIDED THIS TIME, HOW DO THEY KNOW WHAT ROADS WE'RE GONNA WORK ON? THIS IS ALL THE SEED MONEY THAT'S GOING TO OUTLINE AND BE ABLE TO, WHEN YOU GIVE THEM DIRECTION, BUT WE WANT TO GET THE MONEY IN YOUR'S COFFERS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
SO I GUESS MY CONCERN IS I'M, I'M VOTING FOR $47 MILLION, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT MONEY'S ALLOCATED TO? WELL, WE DO KNOW 2 MILLION IS GONNA BE FOR PARKS AND THEN 45 OF COURSE.
BUT THIS IS THE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO HELP DESIGN.
AND YOU'RE GONNA TELL THEM IN YOUR JANUARY WORKSHOP WHAT ROADS TO DO.
SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MONEY IN A POT, SO WE'RE NOT TAKING IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO CONTINUE THE EXPANSION.
AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF PERVEZ IS ON THE LINE, UM, THAT THAT CAME UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS.
I, I HEAR, SO THE 47 MILLION, THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA NEED IN ORDER TO START THE DEVELOPMENTS OF THESE ROADS.
DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE EASEMENTS AND LIKE WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GONNA NEED MORE.
LET, LET ME, LET ME ADDRESS THAT FOR THE RECORD COUNCIL MEMBER.
THIS IS VEMO CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.
UH, SO WE TOOK A VERY CONSERVATIVE AND I LOGICAL APPROACH IN COMING UP WITH A BOND SIZING OR DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THE 2 MILLION OF THE 47 IS EARMARKED FOR THE PARKS BOND UNDER THE 2020, UH, BOND AUTHORITY FOR THE ROAD BONDS.
WE SAT DOWN WITH THE ENGINEERS, K FRIES, AND COMPANY.
WE ASK THEM SPECIFICALLY SHOW US BY PROJECT WHAT YOUR CASH FLOW REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT.
SO THE FIRST YEAR, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IS PROBABLY CLOSER TO, UH, A BETTER ESTIMATE THAN FUTURE YEARS.
WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ENGINEERING WORK OR DESIGN WORK.
ALL OF THE DESIGNS FOR ALL NINE ROADS WILL BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY.
THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE DECIDED BY COUNCIL AS TO WHICH PROJECTS WILL GO FOR SECOND AND THIRD IN THAT PRIORITY ORDER.
SO WHEN WE RECEIVED BACK THEIR CASH FLOW REQUIREMENTS FROM THE ENGINEERS, THEY'RE BASICALLY ESTIMATED THAT THEY WOULD NEED CLOSE TO $80 MILLION THE FIRST YEAR OVER THE 12 MONTH FOR THINGS LIKE ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK FOR UTILITIES AND SOME OF THE OTHER INITIAL WORK THAT THEY NEEDED.
WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO IS ISSUE ALL 80 MILLION AND THE MONEY SITS IN THE BANK UNUSED.
THERE ARE FOUR RISK FACTORS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MITIGATE WHILE ISSUING THE BONDS.
SO WE HAVE TO BE SUPER EFFICIENT IN TERMS OF CASH FLOW REQUIREMENTS.
WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PROMISED A CERTAIN TAX RATE IMPACT.
WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE SPEND DOWN REQUIREMENTS THAT THE IRS IMPOSES.
AND THEN LASTLY, WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE ARBITRAGE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH HOLDING UNUSED BOND PROCEEDS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
SO WE TOOK THEIR 80 MILLION ESTIMATE AND WE SAID, OKAY, ENGINEERS LOVE TO BUILD AND SPEND CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS OR ENGINEERING DOLLARS WILL TAKE 50% OF THEIR ESTIMATE.
AND THEN WE ADDED THE REIMBURSEMENT TO THE GENERAL FUND, THEN WE ADDED THE PARKS BOND.
THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH $47 MILLION.
LET'S ASSUME FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES THAT WE SELL $47 MILLION WORTH OF BONDS OF WHICH 2 MILLION PERTAINS TO THE PARKS PROJECTS AND 45 MILLION PERTAINS TO THE ROAD BONDS.
AND FOR SOME REASON, THE ENGINEERING DRAWS ARE NOT FAST ENOUGH TO USE THESE PROCEEDS.
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WE WILL, WE WILL SIMPLY DELAY THE NEXT BOND ISSUE UNTIL THESE FUNDS ARE DRAWN DOWN, YOU HAVE 294 MILLION IN AUTHORITY.SO THIS IS THE FIRST TRANCHE OF THAT.
WE DON'T WANNA ISSUE TOO MUCH.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANNA ISSUE TOO LITTLE BECAUSE EVERY TIME STEPHANIE AND OR MARK START THIS PROCESS, IT COSTS THE CITY MONEY, LEGAL FEES, FINANCIAL ADVISORY FEES, RATING, AGENCY FEES, AND A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER COSTS THAT ARE PART OF THE ISSUE.
AND SO WE ARE BEING MINDFUL OF THAT.
WE DON'T WANNA DO TOO MANY BOND ISSUES.
WE DON'T WANNA DO TOO FEW ISSUES SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RANGE.
SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE $47 MILLION ESTIMATE.
UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THIS 47 MILLION IS GOING TO IMPACT THE HOMEOWNERS? I'M GONNA HAVE A MARK ADDRESS THAT ONE SINCE THEY DID THE RATE IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY.
MARK MCCLINNEY, SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS.
UM, THIS WILL, AND I WAS ALLUDING TO THIS EARLIER, WE KNOW WHAT THE PROMISE IS THAT WE CAN'T GO PAST 59 CENTS TOTAL.
THIS WILL KEEP US BELOW THAT WITH THE FACTS THAT WE KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT NEXT YEAR'S TAXABLE VALUES ARE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE O AND M COMPONENT OF THE CITY'S TAX RATE WILL BE.
SO WE'RE LEAVING PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THOSE TWO FACTORS IN THERE.
SO WE COULD BORROW MORE OR WE COULD MAKE THE FIRST YEAR'S PAYMENT LARGER.
BUT BEING CONSERVATIVE, WE WANT TO KEEP THAT BACK.
THERE MAY BE A FOLLOW ON ISSUE COME SUMMER ONCE WE KNOW ALL THOSE FACTS AND WE KNOW WHAT THE ENGINEERS NEED.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW, SO THE FULL ANSWER, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE EXACT TAX RATE IMPACT BECAUSE, OR THE IMPACT TO THE VOTERS CUZ WE DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE FACTS YET.
ALL I KNOW IS THE GOAL AND WHAT THIS WILL DO WILL KEEP US LESS THAN THE MAX WE TOLD THE VOTERS LEAVING THE OTHER COMPONENT, THE O AND M PORTION FOR THE CITY AVAILABLE ALSO.
OKAY, SO I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE IF WE ARE NOT SURE WHAT THAT RATE IS GONNA DO NEXT YEAR AND BUT WE KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW, DOES IT, IS IT BETTER TO JUST TAKE WHAT WE NEED OUT AND, AND KNOW WHAT OUR RATE IS GONNA BE AND THEN NOT RISK IT GOING UP NEXT YEAR, YEAR EVEN THOUGH WE'RE JUST LEAVING SOME OF THAT MONEY IN THE BANK? WELL, I, I KNOW WE DON'T, WE WILL NEVER KNOW UNTIL WE GET TOTAL TAXABLE VALUES NEXT YEAR, WHICH WILL BE THE JULY, AUGUST TIMEFRAME, WE'RE GONNA ALWAYS BE HAVE SOME UNCERTAINTIES.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BORROWING TOO MUCH AND HAVING OUR FIRST PAYMENT THAT'S GOING TO BREAK OUR PROMISE.
THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU ALL HAVE WITH YOUR VOTERS REGARDING THIS BOND.
SO IF IT WILL TAKE A TOTAL TAX INCREASE, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS UNTIL ONE, WE KNOW WHAT THE FINAL INTEREST RATES ARE.
TWO, WE KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL VALUES WILL BE, WHICH WON'T BE UNTIL THE SUMMER.
BUT WITHOUT USING MUCH GROWTH, WE'RE WELL BELOW THAT.
WE HAVE LOTS OF ROOM TO STAY UNDERNEATH 59 99 AS WELL AS ALLOW THE CITY, IF THE CITY SO CHOOSES TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN THE O AND M THAT'S ALLOWABLE UNDER THE SB TWO LAW, WHICH IS UP TO THREE AND A HALF PERCENT.
SO ALL OF THAT'S GOTTA BE FUTURE DECISIONS MADE BY THIS COUNCIL WITH ALL THE FACTS.
UM, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO BE SELLING BONDS PRIOR TO KNOWING ALL THOSE FACTS CUZ WE CAN LOCK IN INTEREST RATES PRIOR TO PERHAPS THE FED CONTINUING TO RAISE INTEREST RATES INTO THE FUTURE.
SO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING INTO IT, BUT WE CANNOT GIVE YOU THE EXACT DOLLAR AMOUNT UNTIL ALL THE FACTS ARE IN.
BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU WE WOULD BE BELOW THE TOTAL TAX RATE THAT WE PROMISED THE VOTERS INCLUSIVE OF ALL THOSE UNKNOWNS.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE CURRENT TAX RATE IS? NOT, NOT FOR US, JUST LIKE IN GENERAL.
SO, SO SAY IT WENT TO BOND TODAY, WHAT THE CURRENT TAX RATE, TAX RATE BONUS? NO, NO, NO.
INTEREST, INTEREST RATE I GUESS FOR THE BONDS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY.
UM, LAST YEAR, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA ESTIMATE THAT THE INTEREST RATE IF YOU SOLD TODAY, WOULD BE A ROUGHLY FOUR AND A QUARTER TO FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT.
THAT'S THE BORROWING RATE ON THE BONDS A YEAR AGO, UNFORTUNATELY, OR FORTUNATELY FOR SOME OF OUR PAST BONDS, THOSE RATES WERE CLOSER
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TO BELOW 3%.THAT'S WHAT THE FED HAS BEEN DOING AND EACH AND, AND WE'RE EXPECTING ANOTHER 50 BASIS POINT RA RAISE NEXT WEEK.
THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED TO INTEREST RATES.
YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT MORTGAGES AND ALL OF THAT.
JUST LIKE MUNICIPAL, JUST LIKE MORTGAGES, MUNICIPAL BONDS HAVE BEEN RAISING ALSO RISING.
AND THEN JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION ABOUT THE PARK BOND.
WE'RE DOING THE $2 MILLION, BUT ARE WE GONNA GET REIMBURSED FROM THE COUNTY FOR THE OTHER ONE? IS THAT, IS THAT HOW IT WAS? IT WAS LIKE, I THINK THEY WERE GONNA MATCH US.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO BASED ON THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE AND HAYES COUNTY, THE WAY IT IS STRUCTURED, THEY WILL MATCH DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR ON THE PARKS BONDS.
HOWEVER, THEY WILL NOT ADVANCE FUND THEIR PORTION, MEANING THEY WON'T WRITE US A CHECK FOR A MILLION DOLLARS TO MATCH WHAT MARIANA JUST WENT OVER HER ITEM.
WE WOULD HAVE TO DRAW DOWN AS WE EXPEND OUR MONIES AND THEN THEY WILL REIMBURSE US.
THAT'S HOW THE ILA IS STRUCTURED.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER FEEDBACK MOTIONS? I'LL HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CITY FINANCE OBLIGATIONS ON, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24.
OKAY, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR FOR SAY AYE.
[25. Discussion and possible action regarding the City's $294,400,000.00 road bond, to include but not limited to, road priority based on staff information and council feedback. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 25, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY'S TWO UNDER 94 MILLION ROAD BOND TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO ROAD PRIORITY BASED ON STAFF INFORMATION AND COUNCIL FEEDBACK.UM, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER, UM, AND MY ULTIMATE GOAL WAS TO HAVE SET UP A MEETING OR A TIME, WHICH I THINK WE SHOULD DO AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AFTER THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, HAS BEEN SEATED.
UM, AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THAT UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
MOTION WAS TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 25 BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORE SCALE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? THOSE IN A FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND THOSE OPPOS ITEM PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
CAN WE BE THINKING ABOUT THOUGH A, A TIME IN JANUARY THAT WE CAN DO THAT? SURE.
WE'RE CONSIDERING LIKE THE 21ST, MAYBE THE 21ST AS WELL.
THAT WAS THE DATE FOR THE OTHER BOND THAT WE HAD CIRCLED JANUARY 21ST.
WASN'T THAT THE WORKSHOP? YEAH, IT'S ALL THE SAME THING.
[27. Authorize award and execution of a Purchase Order to COMMERCIAL ELECTRONICS CORPS, San Antonio, Texas, in an amount not to exceed $12,906.00 for hardware, installation, and data integration services to upgrade the recording system utilized by the Police Department. This purchase is being made under the HGACBuy Board Contract. ~ Jeff Barnett, Chief of Police]
MY APOLOGIES.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27 IS TO AUTHORIZE AND EXECUTE TO PURCHASE ORDER COMMERCIAL ELECTRONICS CORP, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12,906 FOR HARDWARE INSTALLATION AND DATA INTEGRATION SERVICES TO UPGRADE THE RECORDING SYSTEM IDOLIZED BY THE UTILIZED, SORRY, BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS PURCHASE IS BEING MADE UNDER THE H G A B C BY BOARD CONTRACT CHIEF BARNETT.
JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
THIS ITEM WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS INCLUDED IN AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26 THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH TONIGHT.
THERE IS ONE GOOD POSITIVE NOTED CHANGE FROM THAT DISCUSSION UNTIL NOW.
UH, BUILT INTO THE PREVIOUS $677,000 AMOUNT THAT WE DISCUSSED WAS THIS ITEM, BUT THIS ITEM WAS PRICED AT $19,000 WHEN THOSE NUMBERS WERE PUT TOGETHER.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS WE'VE GOT ABOUT A $7,000 SAVINGS HERE TONIGHT.
THIS ITEM IS THE RECORDING SYSTEM FOR THE 9 1 1 AND THE POLICE RADIO SYSTEM WITHIN THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT DISPATCH CENTER.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? UM, I ONLY HAVE ONE CONCERN, UM, AND THAT IS THAT THE CITY TRY TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE BUYBACK BOARD.
I, I'D LIKE TO SEE LIKE BACKUP OF LIKE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UM, BIDS.
UM, AND, AND THE BUYBACK BOARD IS GREAT, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE WE SEE THAT A LOT FROM PARKS AND WE SEE IT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
UM, AND I KNOW IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT
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IF WE COULD JUST START GETTING ADDITIONAL BIDS THAT WOULD YOU BET.TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WE HAVE THE, THE, THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO USE, AND IN THIS CASE, HIGHER GROUND IS THE RECORDING SYSTEM THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
IT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR MANY YEARS.
AND WHAT WE DO IS WE WORK WITH THAT VENDOR TO SEE IF THEY ARE, IF IT IS AVAILABLE ON ANY OF THE EXISTING BY BOARDS.
SO IT KIND OF STARTS ALMOST IN REVERSE ORDER IN SOME OCCASIONS.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE IDENTIFIED ITEM THAT WE WANT THAT WE ALREADY USE.
WE'RE JUST ASKING TO RENEW IT OR MAYBE UPGRADE IT AND WE FIND OUT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE A BY BOARD TYPE PROCESS FOR, FOR ONE THAT THE CITY HAS APPROVED.
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR REQUEST.
AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27 SECOND.
UH, MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES KALE TO APPROVE, UH, ITEM GEN NUMBER 27 SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? OKAY.
C AND NONE WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY AYE.
I BELIEVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 28, UH, MR. HENDRICKS WAS, UH, POSTPONED? CORRECT.
[29. Consideration and possible action to approve a 6-month contract extension for AG|CM, Inc., from November 28, 2022 to May 31, 2023 in the amount of $230,591.00 for a total contract award in an amount not to exceed $941,015.00 of for project management services for the City's Public Safety Center project. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29.A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A SIX MONTH CONTRACT EXTENSION FOR AGM CM FROM NOVEMBER 28TH, 2022 TO MAY 31ST, 23 IN THE AMOUNT OF 200 3591 FOR THE TOTAL CONTRACT AWARD AND THE AMOUNT TO NOT TO EXCEED 941,000 1515 THOU $15 FOR THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER PROJECT.
MAYOR COUNSEL, UH, INTERIM CITY MANAGER, JERRY HENDRICKS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS EVENING, UM, AC GM'S CONTRACT EXPIRED IN NOVEMBER FOR, FOR MANAGING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER BUILDING PROGRAM.
UH, UNDER THEIR CONTRACT, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION AND ADDITIONAL MONEY TO CONTINUE THOSE SERVICES.
UH, WE HAVE OUR PRESENTS FROM ACGM HERE TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, AND I'M AVAILABLE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HENDRICKS OR ATM? MY CO I WOULD LIKE MAKE A MOTION TO PROVIDE NINE.
MADE IT WHEN YOU'RE GONNA LET ME PRACTICE
COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU GUYS, SORRY, I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU.
KIND OF JUST JUMP IN ALL THE TIME.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28.
ARE WE THE RIGHT? OH, AGENDA ITEM 29.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21, A COUNCIL MEMBER, ZUNI.
AND BACK TO ME SECOND BY COUNCIL.
WHO'S, SORRY HE MADE THE MOTION.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES SCALE? UM, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, UH, SOME KIND OF NEGOTIATION.
UM, THIS, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE NOVEMBER AND THE CONTRACT EXPIRED AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT WE HAVE USED A GCM FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AROUND THIS CITY, AND I FEEL LIKE NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE NECESSARILY GONE THE WAY, LIKE LIVE DAY THE WAY THAT WE HAD KIND OF HOPED.
UM, AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY TO DIRECT STAFF TO, UM, NEGOTIATE.
NOT A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, BUT JUST SHOWS SOME, UM, GOOD FAITH ON BOTH SIDES FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF LOWER AMOUNT.
CAN, CAN I DO THAT RIGHT NOW? YES, OF COURSE.
I, WHAT I WOULD OFFER, SO RYAN ROSEBURG WITH A GCM, UH, FOR THE RECORD, UM, OUR PREVIOUS CONTRACT, OUR AMOUNT IN OUR CONTRACT NOW, UM, IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PER MONTH, JUST BECAUSE OUR OLD RATES WERE 2020 RATES AND NOW WE'RE AT 2023 RATES.
SO BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION'S GONE CRAZY, EVERYTHING'S ESCALATED, INCLUDING OUR COSTS.
UM, BUT WHAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO IS JUST EXTEND IT AT WHAT OUR RATE WAS THEN.
UM, WHICH IS ABOUT A 6,000, I THINK DOLLAR SAVINGS A MONTH OR CREDIT A MONTH FROM WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW.
IF THAT WOULD BE FAIR, I WOULD APPRECIATE LET'S KEEP IT AT THE SAME RATE.
YES, YES, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.
I'M ABSOLUTELY WILLING TO DO THAT IF IT WOULD HELP.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WANTS TO AMEND THE MOTION.
SO DO WE WANNA GO AND AMEND THE MOTION? COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA AMEND THE MOTION AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29 SECOND.
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COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM.ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ARE THOSE ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE.
I BELIEVE WE, WE AMENDED MOTION.
AMENDED IT TO INCLUDE THE DISCOUNT TO OKAY.
THOSE APOE MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
[30. Authorize award and execution of a purchase order to AARON CONCRETE CONTRACTORS, LP, Austin, Texas, in an amount not to exceed $312,528.03 which includes a five (5) percent contingency for the Center Street and South Street Quiet Zone improvements and a ten (10) percent contingency for Union Pacific Railroad direct fees to the contractor for working in their right of way. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
ALL RIGHT.ITEM NUMBER 30 TO AUTHORIZE AND AWARD EXECUTION OF A PURCHASE ORDER.
AIR AND CONCRETE CONTRACTORS, AUSTIN, TEXAS, IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $312,528, WHICH INCLUDES 5% CONTINGENCY TO THE CENTER STREET AND SOUTH STREET QUIET ZONE IMPROVEMENTS AND 10% CONTINGENCY TO UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD DIRECT FEES TO THE CONTRACTOR FOR WORKING IN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.
THIS ITEM IS MR. BARBARA LEON, BARBARA CITY COUNCIL, CITY ENGINEER.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THE, UH, FOR THE QUIET ZONE IMPROVEMENTS ON CENTER STREET AND SOUTH STREET.
THERE ARE FIVE ROAD PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, TRIED TO GET INCLUDED UNDER THE QUIET ZONE PROCESS.
BURLESON STREET, CENTER STREET, SOUTH STREET, OPAL LANE, AND ROLAND LANE, BURLESON, OPAL AND ROAN ARE BOTH DONE OR COMPLETED.
SO THESE ARE THE LAST TWO OF, OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE TO, UH, ACTUALLY DO A QUIET ZONE FOR THE WHOLE AREA.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD CAUTION COUNCIL IS THAT, UH, ONCE WE GET THESE IMPROVEMENTS DONE, WE STILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION, UNION PACIFIC, AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MADE, WE, UH, WOULD HOPE AND CONS THAT THEY CONSIDER THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AS DONE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAKE SUBTLE CHANGES OR MINOR CHANGES TO WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE.
SO, UH, BUT THIS IS THE LAST CONTRACT THAT WE WILL AWARD FOR THE LAST TWO QUITE, UH, ZONE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT TYPICALLY WE ASK FOR 5% CONTINGENCY, AND ONCE ON OCCASION WE'LL ASK FOR 10% CONTINGENCY.
THIS ONE'S UNUSUAL BECAUSE, UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RAILROAD COMPANY'S GONNA CHARGE THE, UH, CONTRACTOR FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL OR FOR FLAGGING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ADDED A 10% CONTINGENCY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN COVER THE CHARGES THAT THEY'RE END, THEY'RE GONNA PUT ON THE CONTRACTOR AND WE END UP HAVING TO PAY FOR THOSE, UH, PARTICULAR CHARGES.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REFERENCING THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 30.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 30 BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER YVONNE FLORES.
KE DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHEN WE FILL OUT THAT PAPERWORK THAT WE'RE ADDING THE GENERAL PARTNER, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S ALL IN THE LIMITED PARTNER, SO IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ADD THAT I'D APPRECIATE IT.
[31. Consider and possible action approving street and or traffic infrastructure improvements at Bunton Creek Road and Lehman Road intersection and at Bunton Creek Road and Dacy Lane intersection. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
ITEM ON NUMBER 31.CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION APPROVING STREET AND TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AT BUNTON CREEK ROAD, IN LAYMAN ROAD INTERSECTION AND BUNTON CREEK ROAD AND D LANE INTERSECTION.
MR. BARBARA COUNSEL, THIS ITEM, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED BACK ON SEPTEMBER 20TH OF 22.
WE AUTHORIZED COP FINLEY TO MOVE FORWARD AND DETERMINED WHETHER THOSE TWO PARTICULAR INTERSECTIONS MET WARRANTS FOR INSTALLATION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
UH, I'VE READ THE REPORT, THEY'RE ATTACHED IN YOUR BACKUP.
THEY'RE PRETTY LENGTHY REPORTS.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S THREE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT ABOUT THE REPORT THAT I KIND OF PICKED UP ON.
UH, THE FIRST THING OF COURSE IS THEY DO MEET WARRANTS.
SO WE CAN INSTALL TRAFFIC SIGNALS, TEMPORARY, PERMANENT, OR WHATEVER.
SECOND THING IS THAT IF YOU DO SOME WORK AT ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS, YOU REALLY NEED TO DO WORK AT BOTH INTERSECTIONS.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR PLAN IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO WORK AT BOTH INTERSECTIONS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
UH, THE THIRD WAS THAT, UH, WE NEED MORE LANES THERE, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO FIGURE THAT ONE OUT.
SO YEAH, ANYWAY, WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.
BUT, UH, THEY ALSO PROVIDED SOME COST ESTIMATES FOR CONSTRUCTION OF EITHER, UM, WOODEN POLES AND, AND WIRES AND CABLES OR PERMANENT INSTALLATIONS LIKE, UH, STEEL METAL POLES WITH, UH, MASS ARMS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UH, THAT CAN BE DONE, BUT THEY'RE, THE COSTS THAT YOU GAVE YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REPORTS, ARE AROUND 200,000 FOR THE WOODEN, UH, POLES AND ABOUT THREE OR 400,000 FOR THE METAL POLES.
THE THING IS THAT, UH, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE DESIGN, SO YOU COULD PROBABLY ADD ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO DESIGN.
SO THAT'S REALLY ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO ADD ONTO THOSE NUMBERS.
SO I WANTED MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT THAT WAS NOT THE ONLY COST INVOLVED WITH INSTALLING EITHER TEMPORARY WOODEN POLES OR THE METAL POLES, BUT
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THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE NEW, UH, TEMPORARY, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS COMING IN.LAST, UH, EMAIL I SAW IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY GET ONE SET, UH, AFTER CHRISTMAS.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT UP AND, UH, WORKING BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS, AT LEAST AT MAYBE AT LAYMAN.
AND THEN, UH, WHEN THE SECOND SET COMES IN, UNDERSTAND IT'S GONNA BE END OF JANUARY, SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY, AND THEN WE CAN INSTALL THE SECOND SET AT, UH, DA LANE.
SO THE, THESE, UH, TWO, I ASKED THE QUESTION OF THE VENDOR, I SAID, DO THESE THINGS TALK TO EACH OTHER? AND THEY DO NOT.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO PLAY AROUND WITH THE CONTROLS AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE SET UP THEIR FUNCTIONS PROPERLY.
AND SO HOG WORKS WILL HAVE THEIR, UH, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR HANDS BUSY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE COORDINATED AS THEY SET UP THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS FOR BOTH INTERSECTIONS.
SO, UH, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO, I, I PUT THIS ON THE, UH, UH, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION, BUT AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH INSTALLATION OF ANY WOODEN POLES OR ANY PERMANENT METAL POLES AT THIS TIME.
SO WE'RE DOING THE ROAD BOND, LEON, IS THIS GOING TO OVERLAP OR GONNA, I MEAN THIS IS ALREADY A ROAD ON THE NEW ROAD BONDS, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
LIKE WE'RE DOING TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT INTERSECTIONS HERE RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, ARE WE DOING IMPROVEMENTS ON IT SORT OF INITIATING SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UM, THE ROAD BOND WAS, WAS, WAS INTENDED TO COVER ANYWAYS? I KNOW LIKE THE WIDENING OF THE STREET WAS, IS PROBABLY WHAT WE NEEDED THERE AND SOME STRIPING SIDEWALKS.
SO IS THIS JUST A COMPONENT THAT UM, IF WE START DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS SORT OF ALREADY STARTING OR GETTING THE, GETTING THE BALL ROLLING ON, ON THIS BUN CREEK ROAD? CUZ IT WAS ALREADY ON THE ROAD BOND.
SO WHY DON'T WE SAVE SOME MONEY THEN ON THE ROAD BOND? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE DOING OR WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY, FIRST OF ALL.
SO, SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED THE ROAD YET.
THE ROAD HAS NOT BEEN DESIGNED.
SO THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT WE RECENTLY PURCHASED WILL BE PLACED.
THEY'RE GOOD FOR TEMPORARY MEASURES.
THEY WILL, I, I ASKED A SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTION, RIGHT? HOW LONG WILL THESE THINGS STAY UP THERE WORKING? HOW LONG DO THEY WORK? AND, UH, SAID THEY MAY BE UP THERE TWO, THREE YEARS.
HOW LONG WILL THEY BE THERE? AND I WAS TOLD THAT THEY WOULD BE FUNCTIONING FOR AS LONG AS WE NEED THEM, AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN 'EM PROPERLY.
YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN 'EM PROPERLY.
SO IF THEY'RE THERE FOR A YEAR, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, THEY'RE TEMPORARY, THEY CAN BE MOVED AND, AND EVENTUALLY POSSIBLY USE AT OTHER LOCATIONS AS WE NEED THEM.
BUT WE DIDN'T WANNA PUT TEMPORARY WOODEN POLES BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE TO COME OUT.
WE WOULD SPEND 300, 400,000 TO PUT THOSE IN AND ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS THEY'D BE COMING OUT.
SO THAT'D BE A MAJOR EXPENSE OF MONEY WE DON'T NEED TO DO IF WE HAVE THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
SO THAT'S OUR PLAN IS TO DO TEMPORARY NOW.
AND AS THE DESIGN COMES IN, WE START PUTTING IN THE ROUNDABOUT OR THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WHATEVER WE DO.
YEAH, I THINK I REMEMBER YOU MENTIONING THAT.
DON'T PUT IN SOMETHING PERMANENT YET BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE ROAD BOND.
THE ONLY LIST'S, NOT THE ROAD IS BOND IS DCI LANE AT UH, BUNTON CREEK.
SO COUNCIL MAY WANNA CONSIDER A ROUNDABOUT THERE.
COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THE METAL POLES THERE IN THE FUTURE.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN OUR REGULAR BUDGET NEXT YEAR IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE? GOOD.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME RESIDENTS THAT WERE VERY ADVOCATING FOR, FOR THESE LIGHTS, UH, ESPECIALLY IN OUR DISTRICT.
IT LEADS ALSO TO DISTRICT TWO.
SO IT'S, IT'S EXCITING NEWS AND WE'RE FINALLY GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THOSE STREET LIGHTS, UH, EVENTUALLY.
NOW, NOW GOING BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA WAS SAYING, UH, ABOUT YES THIS IS ON THE ROAD BOND, BUT IF, ARE WE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE SAME LIGHT POLES THAT ARE GONNA BE USED FOR DURING THE CONSTRUCTION? CUZ I THINK YOU JUST SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE UP IN PERMANENT POLES, WOULD BE UP IN TWO TO THREE YEARS OR, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE.
MY IDEA WAS, WAS HOPEFULLY THAT IF THEY WERE APPROVED BECAUSE OF THE DIRE NEED THAT IT NEEDS FOR THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE LIGHTS LIKE WE HAVE ON PHIL ANEMA.
UH, AND ALSO OVER THERE, UM, CLOSE TO, UM, RIGHT UP ON THE TOP BY SEATON OR BY PARKWAY.
UH, THOSE WERE THE KIND OF THE DESIGN CONCEPTS I WAS LOOKING FOR ON THE LIGHTS, UH, FOR THOSE TWO AREAS.
SO I WAS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, WE'LL GET OUR PERMANENT UH, OR TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS INSTALLED SO WE CAN START DIRECTING TRAFFIC, GETTING THAT IN.
BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE TIMELINE NOW GOING FORWARD WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET PERMANENT FIXTURES IN THERE? AND I THINK METAL WOULD BE A LOT BETTER, UH, AESTHETIC WISE AS WELL.
THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE CROSSWALKS.
CUZ AGAIN, YES, WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT THESE BONDS AND THE
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MONEY AND SO FORTH, BUT THAT AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING THREE YEARS FROM NOW VERSUS THAT THESE PEOPLE NEED THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, RELIEF IN A COUPLE HOURS WHEN TRAFFIC STARTS BUILDING UP.LET ME SEE IF I CAN, UH, HELP WITH THIS WITH YOUR QUESTION.
WE COULD LOOK AT PUTTING A ROUNDABOUT THERE.
AS YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD TAKE RIGHT OF WAY WOULD TAKE A A PRETTY GOOD WHILE TO BUILD THAT.
AND THE DESIGN WOULD BE VERY EXPENSIVE FOR THAT.
OR IF COUNCIL DECIDED TODAY TO SAY, UH, UH, LEON, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND GET METAL POLES INSTALLED IN, INTO THERE NOW TODAY.
START THE DESIGN PROCESS FOR THAT.
ACCORDING TO THE ESTIMATE THAT I GOT FROM, UH, COBB FINLEY, IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS FOR THAT TO BE COMPLETED.
THE PROCESS TO INSTALL METAL POLES THERE, UH, FOR THEM TO DESIGN IT AND THEN GET 'EM BUILT.
THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER QUESTION I'D HAVE TO TALK TOVE ABOUT THE FUNDING FOR THAT.
CAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 400, 500,000 PROBABLY FOR THAT.
SO THAT COULD BE DONE AT DA LANE AT, UH, LAYMAN, I WOULD HESITATE TO PUT ANYTHING THERE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA EITHER GET A ROUNDABOUT OR JUST A REGULAR INTERSECTION AND WHATEVER WE PUT THERE TODAY WOULD GET TAKEN OUT WITH THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION CUZ WE'RE GONNA WIDEN THE ROAD.
IT'S GONNA BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
YOU NEED RADIUSES, PROPER RADIS.
SO WE WOULD SPEND THREE TO 400,000 AND THEN WE'D BE, THEY WOULD BE TAKEN OUT IN THREE TO FOUR YEARS WHEN THE YOU CONSTRUCTION CAME THROUGH.
SO THAT'S WHY I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND ANY METAL POLES OR NOT EVEN WOODEN POLES IF WE HAVE THE TEMPORARIES.
LET'S TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE AT, UH, LAYMAN.
COUNCIL DIRECTS TODAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DA LANE FIRST WE'VE GOTTA FIND THE FUNDING FOR IT, BUT THEN, UH, THEN WE, THAT COULD BE BE STARTED TODAY IF COUNCIL CHOSE TO DO SO.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 30.
THE MOTION WAS MADE BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, TOBIAS, TO APPROVE THIS, UH, SECOND BY A COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNI, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY, THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I, THOSE SAY NAME MOTION PASSES FIVE TO ZERO.
COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND YVONNE FLOOR SCALE FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU DON'T WANT ME TO START RIGHT NOW ON THE DESIGN FOR THE METAL POLLS, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S, WE'LL, WE'LL BRING SOME ITEMS BACK TO YOU.
BRING SOME ITEMS BACK TO WHERE CAN GET A BUDGET SO THAT WAY WE CAN SEE ALSO, SO WE CAN SEE WHERE WE'RE AT FINANCIALLY WHEN IT DOES COME TIME WHEN WE REALLY NEED 'EM THERE.
[32. Consider approval of an interlocal agreement between City of San Marcos and City of Kyle for a water sharing arrangement and authorize the City Manager to execute said agreement. ~ Harper Wilder, Director of Public Works]
NEXT ITEM'S GONNA BE ITEM NUMBER 32 TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE INTER, UH, LOCAL POOL AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY OF SAN MARCO AND CITY OF KYLE FOR WATER SHARING AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT.OKAY, THIS IS, UH, DIRECTION FROM HARPER WIRE MAYOR COUNCIL HARPER WILDER PUBLIC WORKS.
TIM SANFORD, MY DIVISION MANAGER, TREATMENT OPERATIONS AT PUBLIC WORKS IS THE ONE WHO'S ESTABLISHED EVERYTHING WITH SAM MARCUS AND WENT THROUGH THE MOTIONS WITH THIS AGREEMENT AND HE DID A GREAT JOB.
IF YOU HAVE ANY DETAILS THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED ALREADY, I'M SURE HE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
IT'S THE SAME THING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE EXACT, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS? FOUR SKILLS? NO, I WANNA START BY, BY THANKING YOU GUYS, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THIS.
I, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE BACKSIDE AND THE INSIDE OF THE CITY STUFF, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT PUBLIC WORKS DOES.
AND I CAN REMEMBER DURING SNOWED AND ALL THE MAJOR THIS YEAR WHEN WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, WATER WAS GOING TO BE A, NOT THAT IT ISN'T A MAJOR ISSUE, BUT I REMEMBER THAT YOU GUYS WERE UP, YOU GUYS SLEEP OVER THERE, YOU GUYS BUSTING YOUR BUTTS.
UM, SO I HAVE JUST TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, MY FIRST ONE IS, HOW MUCH WATER IS IN USAGE FOR THE CITY IS IN OUR G B A AGREEMENT.
SO HOW MUCH CAN WE USE EVERY YEAR, TIM, EVER, FOR THE RECORD FOR, TO ANSWER A QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 5,446,000 ACRE FEET OF WATER.
G B A THAT'S RAW WATER PRIOR TO TREATMENT.
TREATMENT TAKES A WATER LOSS ASPECT IN WITH IT.
SO THE WATER THAT COMES AVAILABLE TO US IS, IS VARIABLE.
UH, IT'S, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 4.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
AND THEN WHAT IS OUR CURRENT USAGE? WHERE ARE WE AT? SO I, I WILL ANSWER THAT, BUT I WANT TO ADD THAT G B A IS NOT OUR ONLY WATER SOURCE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE EAA, WHICH IS THIS A PERMIT THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO AGREE THIS AMENDMENT, OUR AGREEMENT WITH ST.
MARCUS TO ALLOCATE SOME OF THEIR PERMITTED AMOUNTS TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PERMANENT CAPACITY OF BARTON SPRINGS EDWARDS AQUIFER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
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WE ALSO HAVE EMERGENCY SOURCE OF WATER THROUGH THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS.I BELIEVE THAT'S AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.
AND THE OTHER TWO, SO THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS AND BARTON SPRINGS, THEY WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO LET US BORROW WATER.
SO THE PERMIT, THE WAY THE PERMANENT IS STRUCTURED WITH BARTON SPRINGS THERE, THERE IS NO MEANS TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
IT'S ALL BASED ON THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS AND THE STAGE OF DROUGHT THAT THEY ARE THERE ARE ANNOUNCING, UM, THE CITY OF KA HAS LISTED QUANTITIES THAT WE COULD TAKE FROM THAT PERMIT DEPENDING ON WHAT STAGE DROUGHT THERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN.
AND THAT'S ON A PER MONTH BASIS, DEPENDING ON THE DROUGHT STAGE.
DO WE HAVE THAT KIND OF LIKE CLAUSE WITH BUTTA? CAUSE I KNOW WE SELL SOME WATER TO BUTTA.
DO WE HAVE THAT KIND OF CLAUSE WITH BUTTA? SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH BUTTA AND IT RECENTLY DID CHANGE, UH, PREVIOUSLY IT WAS A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY WE WOULD PROVIDE TO THEM THROUGH THE ALLIANCE WATER METERING STATION.
AND THAT AGREEMENT WAS GOING TO BE IN PLACE UNTIL ALLIANCE CAN SUPPLY THAT LINE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED 2024 TIMEFRAME.
UM, RECENTLY THAT CHANGE, BUTTA HAS RETRACTED THEIR NEEDS FOR THE 500,000 THAT THE CITY OF COWS TO PROVIDE WITH THAT.
AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE STILL HAVE AN AGREEMENT PLACED THROUGH THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS, BUT IT'S TRANSFERRED THROUGH THE CITY OF COWS SYSTEM THROUGH THAT METERING STATION.
SO IF YOU WERE TO CALL FOR THAT WATER, WE CAN RECEIVE THAT ADDITIONAL QUANTITY OR THROUGH OUR TAKE POINTS THAT WE RECEIVE WATER FROM THE ST.
MARCUS WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THEN WE JUST CONVEY IT TO OUR SYSTEM AND PROVIDE IT TO THAT TAKE POINT.
SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THE ALLOTTED AMOUNT THAT WAS FOR BUTTA THAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH BUTTA DID NOT USE THE CITY OF KYLE USED? IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION FOR ME TO ANSWER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD REALLY ANSWER THAT BECAUSE WE PUSH WATER INTO THE SYSTEM OR IT GOES, IT'S ALL TO DEPEND ON DEMAND.
I CAN'T SAY THAT WE DIDN'T USE THAT CAPAC, WE DIDN'T USE THAT CAPACITY OR THEY DIDN'T USE THAT CAPACITY.
THAT CAPACITY WAS WHEN THAT AGREEMENT WAS PUT IN PLACE.
MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CAPACITY WAS AVAILABLE, BUT AS WE'VE SEEN THIS YEAR, THAT CAPACITY IS NECESSARY FOR OUR SYSTEM VERSUS MAKING YOU AVAILABLE TO THEM IS THE BEST WAY I CAN ANSWER THAT.
AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, WHEN DID THE CITY OF KYLE REACH THEIR APPROVED USAGE WITH E A, UM, WITH G B R A? WITH G B R A? SO WE HAVE NOT, WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY TAKING OH, EEAA, SORRY.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE READING.
SO SOMEWHERE IN THE MID, IN THE BEGINNINGS OF OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, WE REACHED OUR CAPACITY WITH EEAA DUE TO THE RESTRICTIONS THAT EA PUT IT INTO OUR PERMIT FOR THIS YEAR.
SO THE WAY THAT THEIR PERMITTING STRUCTURE WORKS WITH THE AA IS EVERY DAY IN WHICH THEY'RE IN A CERTAIN STAGE OF DROUGHT.
OUR PERMIT IS WE'RE TAKING AWAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OFF OF OUR PERMIT.
SO WE'RE ISSUED 432 ACRE FEET EVERY YEAR WITH THE AA FOR EVERY DAY THEY'RE IN STAGE THREE DROUGHT.
IT, I BELIEVE IT'S APPROXIMATELY 25 TO 30% OFF OF THAT EACH DAY.
IT'S JUST, THERE'S A CALCULATION IN FORMULAS AND EVERYTHING GOES INTO IT.
BUT IN A SENSE WE COULD HAVE USED ALL THE WATER AND IT GET TAKEN FROM OUT FROM UNDERNEATH US WITH THE EAA.
SO LUCKILY THEY DO GIVE US THE ABILITY TO LEASE WATER FROM OTHER PERMIT HOLDERS.
I DO HAVE THE CAPACITY, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE EXERCISED WITH THE CITY OF ST.
I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT GO AHEAD.
MEMORIAL PARK, UM, THE WATER THAT'S BEING USED THERE, IS IT RECYCLED WATER OR IS THAT PART OF THE WATER THAT'S BEING USED EVERY DAY? UM, VOLUME.
UM, DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT? I'LL LET MR. WAL ANSWER THAT.
SO IT PULLS IN RAIN WATER AND IF THAT FALLS BELOW A CERTAIN, UH, MEASURE LEVEL THAT IT HAS, THEN IT WILL TAKE OUR DOMESTIC WATER IF IT FALLS BELOW THAT.
SO IT RECYCLES, IT PUMPS AND JUST CONTINUES TO RECYCLE AND ALL THAT.
BUT THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, UH, IF IT DRIES UP AND GOES DOWN, THE LEVELS START GOING DOWN OR WE DON'T RECEIVE RAIN OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
IT CAN PULL FROM, FROM OUR DOMESTIC WATER, FROM OUR DRINKING WATER.
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WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT REFILL AND STOP? LIKE, I GUESS DOES IT HAVE TO GO DRY TO START GETTING OUR DRINKING WATER THERE OR IT'S KINDA LIKE A LIFT STATION.YOU KNOW, THE, THE WATER FILLS AND RECEDES.
IT FILLS AND RECEDES, YOU KNOW, AS THE FLOW GOES.
SO AS THAT TANK STARTS TO GO DOWN MM-HMM.
KICK ON START FEEDING SO IT FILLS BACK UP UNTIL IT FILLS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL.
AND THEN ONCE IT TRIGGERS THAT, THAT LEVEL WE STOP BEATING, IT'S, IT'S A SHUTOFF.
AND IT'LL SIT THERE AND PUMP INTERNALLY.
IT'S DOING THE SPRINKLER AND HOLD ON YARDS.
IT'S COMING OFF THE BRIDGE AND ALL THAT, UM, UNTIL IT GOES BELOW A CERTAIN LEVEL AND LOSES THAT WATER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT TIMEFRAME IS WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE OVER THERE THAT DESIGN THAT.
JUST GOOD TO KNOW THAT IT CAN BECOME SOME OF OUR DRINKING WATER IF THE LEVEL GOES LOWER.
AND WE'VE ACTUALLY, LEON'S BEEN A PART OF THIS, UM, INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THOSE RECLAIM LINES RUN OVER THERE TO THAT SITE.
IT'S GOING PAST THE SITE AS WELL.
UM, WHEN FURTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT, WELL FIRST LOCATED FIRST AND THEN BUILT AND WE'RE ABLE TO PUT SO PLUM SYSTEM AS WELL AS HAVE A STORAGE THAT WE CAN SEND THAT THEN TO THAT PLACE, UM, THERE'S POTENTIAL THERE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FEED FROM THAT REUSE AT SOME POINT.
LIKE THE, LIKE THE PLUM CREEK GOLF COURSE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE ONLY DOWNFALL OF THAT, OR ONLY STIPULATION TO THAT IS, IS I THINK THAT THAT POND GOES TO THE DRAINAGE, STORM SURGE DRAINAGE.
AND IF IT'S PUBLIC DRAINAGE, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
UM, HOW DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY REFILL OR DOES THE CITY SEE THAT IT'S LOW AND THEN WE HAVE TO FILL IT UP OURSELVES? HOW DOES THAT WORK? NO, IT, IT REFILLS ON ITS OWN.
WHAT IS IT CONNECTED TO THAT IT DOES THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW THE INNER WORKINGS OF IT.
I KNOW THE BASICS OF WHAT THE GENTLEMAN TOLD ME AND HOW IT WORKS OVER THERE.
UH, BUT THERE'S SOME KIND OF AUTO FEED TO WHERE WHEN IT GOES BELOW A CERTAIN LEVEL, IT TRIGGERS, TRIGGERS IT FOR THE VALVE TO OPEN UP THAT VALVE OPENS UP, FILLS THE LINE, UM, STARTS FILLING THE POND UP.
NOW THAT POND MAY ONLY BE X NUMBER OF INCHES DOWN TO WHERE IT CAN'T, IT CAN'T GET TO THAT LEVEL THAT IT NEEDS TO STAY AT TO BE SELF SUSTAIN.
SO YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY MAYBE PUTTING A WHOLE BUNCH OF WATER IN THERE, SO TO SPEAK.
I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT TWO INCHES, THAT'S A LOT FOR A LARGE, WHAT I'M, WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT, THEY THINK WHEN YOU TELL 'EM A NUMBER ON THAT AND THEY THINK, OH MY GOSH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT, BUT REALLY IT'S NOT AT THAT WHITE POND.
YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE TAKE IN THE DEMAND ON THIS CITY, WHAT WE GO THROUGH ON A DAILY BASIS.
IT, YOU KNOW, FOR US IT'S, IT'S MINIMAL AND THE BIG SCALE.
NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT WORKED.
CAUSE I KNOW TO FILL IT UP, THEY HAD TO PUT A WATER HOSE IN IT INITIALLY, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SET UP AFTER THAT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 32, PLEASE.
UH, MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLOOR SCALE TO APPROVE IT.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[33.
(Second Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas, for the purpose of rezoning approximately 4.01 acres of land from Agriculture 'A' to Retail Service District 'RS' for property located at 23451 IH-35 in Hays County, Texas. (Winn Family Limited Partnership - Z-22-0109). ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 7-0 to approve the request.
City Council voted 5-0 to approve on First Reading on 11/15/2022.
]WE HAVE A SECOND READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING APPROXIMATELY 4.01.A ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURAL A TO RETAIL SERVICE DISTRICTS.
RS PROPERTY LOCATED AT 23 4 51 IH 35 IN HAYES COUNTY.
UH, PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVED 70.
COUNCIL FIVE, OH, UH, THIS IS, UH, MR. ATKINS ITEM.
I'M GONNA, OKAY FOR THE RECORD COUNSEL MEMBER FLORES GUILDS.
ATKINSON, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD AS STATED, THIS IS THE SECOND READ FOR, UH, THE ORDINANCE BEING PROPOSED BEFORE YOU TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 4.01 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES IN A NUTSHELL.
UM, WHAT WILL BE PROPOSED HERE? WE'LL HAVE TO MEET THE I 35 OVERLAY.
WHATEVER IS BUILT HERE FROM THE RETAIL SERVICES STANDPOINT, IT IS A, IT'LL HAVE TO BE POINT OF SALE SERVICE AND BY DEFAULT WITH BOTH THE I 35 OVERLAY AND THE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING STANDARDS, IT WILL BE A CUT ABOVE WHAT'S EXISTING AROUND IT.
SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MAKE A BETTER PROJECT OUT OF THIS PORTION OF THE CITY.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? OKAY.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. ATKINS? COUNCILMAN, UH, COUNCIL
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MEMBER, UH, PARSLEY.UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 33.
MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY TO, UH, APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 33.
UH, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION? C AND NONE GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO THOSE APPROVE, SAY AYE.
I HAD ASKED YOU ABOUT THIS ONE AT THE LAST MEETING.
WELL HERE, THE REZONING THERE.
SO I WAS SATISFIED WITH, LIKE YOU SAID, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE COMMERCIAL, HEAVY COMMERCIAL JUST IN TERMS OF THE ZONING RETAIL OH, WHAT THEY DO, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
[34.
(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas for the purpose of amending the Plum Creek Planned Unit Development, Employment District (Ch. 53, Exhibit A. - Plum Creek Planned Unit Development, Art. II., Part C.-PUD Districts: Regulations & Performance Standards, Section 9. - "EMP" Employment PUD District in Hays County, Texas. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval.
- Public Hearing
FIRST READING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING THE PLUM CREEK PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT EMPLOYEE DISTRICT 53.
AND THIS GOES TO THE PLUM CREEK PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT ARTICLE TWO, EMPLOYMENT PUT DISTRICT OF HAYES COUNTY.
THIS DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME UP C IN NONE.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS ITEM, UH, IS, WAS BY APPROVED BY PLANNING ZONING SIX TO ZERO.
UH, WILL ATKINSON, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
THIS IS A CODE AMENDMENT TO THE PLUM CREEK EMPLOYMENT ZONING DISTRICT.
A BULK OF WHICH AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, IS LOCATED IN THE AREA 10 OF, OF PLUM CREEK.
IT'S UH, EAST OF 1626 AND NORTH OF KOHLERS.
BETWEEN THAT AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
UM, SO OVER THE LAST, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS, UM, MOARK GROUP WHO, UH, DEVELOPS THE REST OF PLUM CREEK ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNERS AND THE CITY OF KYLE, HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT AT ODDS IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE INTERPRET INTERPRETING SUBSECTION NINE OF THIS CODE, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT THERE, THE AREA IN RED IS WHAT'S EXISTING AND, AND CROSSED OUT.
THE GOAL IS TO PREVENT LARGE SCALE LOGISTICS CENTERS LIKE A FEDEX FACILITY, UH, OR AN AMAZON FACILITY WHERE THEY HAVE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF, UH, SEMIT TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT OF IT.
UM, AND TO HAVE MORE OF AN EMPLOYMENT FEEL FOR THE SITE THERE, THERE STILL MAY BE A FEW TRUCKS HERE OR THERE, UH, BUT THE SCALE WILL BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
AND SO THIS CODE AMENDMENT CHANGES THAT.
UH, AND IT MAKES IT MORE OF A CLARIFICATION.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A COMBINED EFFORT BETWEEN BOTH THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE CITY OF KYLE TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND TO WHERE WE WE'RE BOTH SATISFIED WITH, UH, CLARIFYING THAT RESULT.
AND ADDITIONALLY, UM, FURTHER ON IN THE CODE, UH, WE DECIDED TO ADD SOME SCREENING AND LANDSCAPE CODE TO THE PALM CREEK EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY TO PROVIDE A MORE, UM, CODE, UH, COMPLIANT ROBUST CODE TO REVIEW AGAINST.
RIGHT NOW THE, UM, THIS ZONING DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE ANY, UH, LANDSCAPE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND WE HAVE TO RELY ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR SIDE.
THEY DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SOME CONTROL OF THAT AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE CODE IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, WE ARE VERY HAPPY WITH AS THE CODE IS DRAFTED AND THE COLLABORATION THAT WE'VE HAD TOGETHER.
UM, AND IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, THIS ONE I WAS COUNCIL MEMBER ZU.
I WAS TRYING TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND.
UM, SO WHERE IS THE BOUNDARY? LIKE 15,000 SQUARE FEET, IF IT'S LOGISTICS IS BIG AMAZON, BUT A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED, I GUESS CUZ CUZ WHAT IF YOU JUST HAVE INVENTORY AND YOU'RE JUST A, UM, LIKE A, A SELLER OF MERCHANDISE AND YOU HAVE A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT BILLION CUZ THAT'S ALL YOU CAN LEASE.
IS THIS GOING TO BE STRICTLY, IS THIS GONNA BE A RESTRICTION ON YOUR PERMITTING TO TO, TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS? SO THE GOAL HERE IS TO STILL ALLOW, UM, EMPLOY EMPLOYERS.
SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UH, THEY MANUFACTURE GOODS THERE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S ALREADY ALLOWED FROM THE USE CHART, BUT ALSO TO HAVE WAREHOUSING THAT'S NOT LIMITED WITH THEIR PRIMARY USE OF MANUFACTURING TO 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
BUT WE ALSO, WHICH IS THE CITY'S CURRENT INTERPRETATION.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE AND I, AND I CAN SAY THIS NAME BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED PERMITS FOR REVIEW MM-HMM.
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FLAVORS.THEY, UH, THEY LIMITED THEIR PHASE ONE PORTION OF THE PROJECT FROM A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO JUST THE 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSING, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE A MANUFACTURER OF FOOD, UH, ADDITIVES, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO FIT WITHIN THE CODE SO THEY CAN START GETTING THE PERMITTING.
WE ARE REFINING THE CODE TO WHERE THOSE SIMILAR TYPES OF MANUFACTURERS AREN'T LIMITED IN THEIR WAREHOUSING SPACE THAT THEY NEED BEFORE THEY END UP SHIPPING IT OUT TO THE REST OF THE US.
SO THEIR PRIMARY USE AS A MANUFACTURER, BUT THEY STILL NEED THE WAREHOUSE SPACE.
AND IF THEY WANT TO HAVE FUTURE EXPANSIONS, THEY CAN STILL HAVE THAT OR INCREASE THEIR PRODUCTION FACILITY, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THERE IS SPECIFICALLY LOGISTIC CENTERS, LIKE I MENTIONED, LIKE A FEDEX FACILITY OR AMAZON, WHICH THEY ARE GOOD, WE LIKE HAVING THEM AS EMPLOYERS, BUT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MUCH MORE OF A LARGER SCALE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE AMAZON FACILITY IS, FEDEX AND EVERYTHING CLOSER TO I 35, THE AREAS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE MORE OF THE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT IN PLUM CREEK ARE, UH, ADJACENT TO 1626.
SO THEN YOU TO HAVE A SCALED DOWN EFFECT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS CODE APPLIES TO.
SO LET'S, THE LITTLE GUY WHO WANTS TO FORMULATE A COCONUT DRINK, HE NEEDS CONTAINERS, HE NEEDS UM, BOXES, UM, HE CAN HAVE THE WAREHOUSE AND STILL SELL AND, AND SHIP OUT, RIGHT? YES.
HE CAN HAVE A RETAIL COMPONENT TO THAT.
HE CAN MANUFACTURE THERE AND THEN STILL HAVE A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF WAREHOUSE THAT'S NOT LIMITED BY WHAT THE CODE CURRENTLY READS.
SO CAUSE TO ADD, I GUESS WE'RE LOOKING AT LOGISTICS CENTER, CORRECT? A LOGISTIC CENTER MEANS A BUILDING USED AND, AND TENDED TO BE USED FOR FREIGHT FORWARDING COMPANIES OR LOGISTIC COMPANIES TO STORE AND DISTRIBUTE THIRD PARTY PRODUCTS INTO RETAIL OUTLETS.
WHERE ELSE HERE MEANS TO AS AN ESTABLISHED STORAGE FOR THE MERCHANDISING COMMODITIES? CORRECT.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IN THE ZONING OR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? SO YOU CAN HAVE THE WAREHOUSING AS A COMPONENT OF YOUR, YOUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE PRIMARY USE IS EITHER YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME RETAIL THERE OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A MANUFACTURING FOR THERE.
SO YOU GOTTA HAVE ANY BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS HAS TO HAVE SOME STORAGE COMPONENT.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANY MOTIONS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 34.
THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA TO APPROVE AGENDA.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES SCALE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[36.
Consider a Request to reconsider a rezoning request of 1500 E RR 150 (Woodmere Park). Per Sec. 53-1205(i)(2) Time Limitation, If a petition for rezoning is denied by the city council, another petition for reclassification of the same property or any portion thereof shall not be filed within a period of 12 months from the date of final denial, except with the permission of the city council. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member
City Council voted 3-3 denying the zoning approval on 9/6/2022 (Z-22-0103).
]HAVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 36.UH, CONSIDER A REQUEST TO RECONSIDER A REZONING REQUEST 1500 EAST INTRO 1 51 ME PIER PARK.
IF THE PETITION FOR THE REZONING IS DENIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, ANOTHER PETITION WILL BE RECLASSIFIED OF THE SAME PROPERTY OF ANY PORTION THAT ALL SHALL NOT BE FILED WITHIN A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF FINAL DENIAL, EXCEPT THE PERMISSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL ITEM WAS ORIGINALLY VOTED THREE.
AND THIS IS BROUGHT UP BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KILL.
UM, I GUESS I WANNA MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT I'M ALLOWED TO DO AND MY WHOLE POINT IS TO BRING THIS BACK BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME CHANGES, UM, THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO MAKE.
UM, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE TO, WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION TODAY, IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE JUST SEEING IF WE CAN BRING IT BACK FOR RECONSIDERATION.
SO THE SECTION, UH, LET ME PULL IT UP REAL QUICK.
SO, UH, WELL I CAN SEND FOR THE RECORD, PLENTY.
DIRECTOR SECTION 53 DASH 12 0 5 I TWO.
SO IF THE, IF THE ZONING REQUEST FAILS, THEN UNLESS COUNSEL TAKES ACTION BEFORE THE 12 MONTH MARK, THAT SITE CANNOT BE REZONED UNTIL 12 MONTHS LATER.
SO FROM A, AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM A STATE PERSPECTIVE, A MEMBER OF COUNCIL WHO VOTED AGAINST IT, IF THEY WANT TO BRING IT BACK, THEY HAVE TO PUT
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IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN ASK FOR RECONSIDERATION.AND THEN AFTER THAT, IF THE VOTE PASSES, THEN THE APPLICANT WILL COME THROUGH AND THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS LIKE THEY DID BEFORE.
AND IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE MOST OF THE DOCUMENTS READY TO GO.
UM, THERE'S SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENTS, SO IT'S, IT WON'T BE DIFFICULT ON OUR, OUR SIDE, BUT IT'S FOR Y'ALL TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER IT.
SO I, I WORKED WITH A DEVELOPER, UM, AND I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS WANNA GET UP, I DUNNO IF THEY'RE ALLOWED TO TALK, BUT THEY, THEY WERE AMAZING TO WORK WITH.
AND ORIGINALLY WHAT THEY WANTED US TO DO WAS TO REZONE 20 ACRES OF RETAIL INTO, HOW WAS IT? I THINK IT WAS APARTMENTS OR HOMES.
UM, AND I WAS VERY HESITANT BECAUSE ONE 50 HAS HARDLY ANY RETAIL ON IT.
AND SO, UM, AFTER WORKING WITH THEM AND TALKING TO THEM, GETTING SOME FEEDBACK, UM, A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT THEY UPDATED WERE, THEY WERE, UH, WANNA INC INCORPORATE RETAIL OFF OF ONE 50 EAST AND 1 58 COUNTY ROAD.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA INCLUDE A MIX OF FRONT AND REAR LOADED RESIDENCES.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA INCLUDE A COVERED PLAYGROUND AREA WITH NICE SHADED PLACE STRUCTURE.
AND THIS IS ADDITIONAL PLAYGROUND AREA IN ADDITION TO THE AMENITY CENTER, UH, THE OPEN SPACE POND AND THE VIBE TRAIL THAT IS CONNECTING ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SURROUNDED COMMUNITY.
UM, I, I KNOW THIS IS NOT A BIG DEAL FOR EVERYBODY, BUT, UM, THEY'VE AGREED TO PUT IN A DRINKING WATER FOUNTAIN, WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF NICE FOR THE KIDS.
AND THEN, UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME, THEY'VE AGREED TO INCLUDE THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY INTO THE PROJECT.
AND SO I DO WANNA SAY IT'S DEVELOPERS LIKE THIS THAT CAN HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH MAINTAINING OUR HISTORY JUST BY DOING SOMETHING SMALL AND LITTLE, INCORPORATING THAT INTO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS, UM, OR THOSE CHANGES, I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD BRING THIS BACK TO DISCUSS.
I KNOW THERE WERE SOME HESITATION FROM, UM, A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I THINK OVERALL, UM, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, UM, MORE THAN EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS AND I APPRECIATED THEIR WILLINGNESS TO KIND OF GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.
I CAN ANSWER KATE, ANYBODY YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, SO ALSO WANTED TO ADD, UM, I GOT ONTO THE COUNCIL LINK, BUT THE DEVELOPER DID REACH OUT TO ME TOO AND ASKED FOR WHAT WERE KIND OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO, UM, LOOK AT WHETHER THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, GIVE THE RESIDENTS SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN GET TOGETHER, HAVE LIKE A LITTLE MARKET DAY, HAVE LIKE A LITTLE BAKE SALE DAY.
UM, BECAUSE I LOVE LIKE WHAT PLUM CREEK HAS, WHERE THEIR COMMUNITY CAN REALLY GET TOGETHER AND HAVE EVENTS.
I'VE, I'VE SEEN HOW THEIR BEER FEST WORKS WHERE THEY HAVE MEMBERS JUST HAVE A BEER TASTING OUTSIDE AND IT'S WHAT MAKES THAT SPECIAL IS THEY HAVE A LITTLE HOUSE AND WITH THAT LITTLE HOUSE YOU'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE NEIGHBORS OR PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, COME MEET YOU AT YOUR OWN HOUSE.
YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE CENTRAL AREA.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT CAN MAKE A DEVELOPMENT SPECIAL.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN MOST FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT BRING IN A LOT OF HOUSES AND TOWN HOMES.
IT'S LIKE A LITTLE EVERYBODY CAN USE.
OF COURSE THERE'S LIABILITIES, THERE'S ISSUES, BUT JUST SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT, UM, BECAUSE JUST BEING OUT IN A PARK, UM, YES, YOU CAN GET TOGETHER AT A PARK UNDER A TREE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS ENCLOSED THAT LOOKS PRETTY, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A VERY HUGE, UM, BUILDING.
IT COULD BE SOMETHING SMALL JUST SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S THEIR LITTLE GET TOGETHER PLACE.
AND IF I WANNA HAVE A, A UH, SANTA CLAUS THING OR A SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU'VE GOT A CENTRAL LOCATION SO THAT THEY WANT TO REALLY DO THAT OR TO CONSIDER THAT WAS SPECIAL.
COUNCIL, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS CORRECTLY.
I BELIEVE THAT BEFORE YOU CAN START DISCUSSING THE MATTER THAT YOU FIRST HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE TO RECONSIDER.
AND PAGE IF, IF YOU'RE, UM, ONLINE, IF YOU CAN CORRECT ANY PART OF THAT, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
BUT I WAS JUST BRINGING UP AN AMENITY THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND THIS IS PAGE SIDE, CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.
THIS ISN'T LIKE THE TRADITIONAL MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION THAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH BEFORE WHERE THE COUNCIL, UH, VOTES ON A MATTER AND THEN BRINGS IT BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR RECONSIDERATION.
YOU'VE ALREADY PASSED THAT TIME TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S
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THE, THIS WAS VOTED ON IN SEPTEMBER, IF THAT'S THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL IS STATED CORRECTLY.UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS COUNCIL'S VOTING ON WHETHER TO WAIVE THE 12 MONTH PROHIBITION AGAINST REFILING THE SAME ZONING APPLICATION.
AND SO THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DISCUSSING THE KIND OF WHAT THEY LIKE ABOUT THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
ULTIMATELY, WHAT THEY'LL VOTE ON IS WHETHER, WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE WAIVING THAT 12 MONTH, UH, PROHIBITION AGAINST REFILING THE APPLICATION.
IF THEY APPROVE IT, THEN THE APPLICANT WILL REFILE THEIR ZONING APPLICATION.
IT'LL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, UM, APPROVE WAIVING THE, THEIR ZONING TO WHERE THEY CAN BRING THIS BACK AS A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM.
IS THAT OR A NEW AGENDA ITEM? IT IT, RIGHT? CUZ IT WAS DENIED THE ZONING APPLICATION WAS DENIED AND THEY CAN'T FILE A SIMILAR ZONING APPLICATION FOR 12 MONTHS UNLESS COUNCIL WAIVES THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND SO YOU'RE BEING, BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER WAIVING THAT REQUIREMENT AND THEN THEY'LL REFILE, THEY'LL REFILE IT AND TAKE IT TO PZ AND THEN BACK TO YOU AGAIN.
SO THE DISCUSSION IS JUST TO WAIVE THE REZONING REQUEST TO WA COUNCILMAN, UH, COUNCIL COUNCILMAN, WAIT, THE 12 OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BRADSHAW, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE 12 MONTH TIMEFRAME FOR THE REZONING APPLICATION FOR THE WOODMERE PROJECT.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BRADSHAW TO, UH, RE TO COULD RECONSIDER THE REZONING ALSO, UM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KE DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE, THE MOTION? WILL THIS BE BROUGHT BACK THEN AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? UM, NO.
THE NEXT COUNCIL MEMBER IS MEETING IS THE DECEMBER 20TH MEETING.
SO STATE LAW MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, DEPENDING ON HOW THE CALENDAR FALLS, OVER LEAST 60 TO 90 DAYS AFTER THEY APPLY.
SO THERE'S MINIMUM TIMEFRAMES YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR FROM A PUBLIC HEARING PERSPECTIVE AND NOTICE TO THE NEWSPAPER AND SIGN NOTICES AND ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF.
SO IT'LL, LIKE I STATED EARLIER, UM, THIS PROJECT'S NOT A FOREIGN ONE TO STAFF, SO, UM, IT ACTUALLY, IT'LL PROBABLY FOLLOW WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME PRETTY SMOOTHLY, I ANTICIPATE, BUT THEY STILL NEED TO FOLLOW MINIMUM STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[38. Discussion and possible action regarding the creation of a city council policy/procedure for outgoing council, including but not limited to, protocol regarding return of city property and direction to staff regarding emails and correspondences. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]
ARE, WE'RE ALMOST DONE GUYS.THE CREATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY PROCEDURE FOR OUTGOING COUNCIL, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PROTOCOL REGARDING RETURN OF CITY PROPERTY AND DIRECTION TO STAFF REGARDING EMAILS AND CORRESPONDENCE.
UM, SO WHAT I'VE LEARNED ON MY SHORT TWO YEARS ON COUNCIL IS THAT, UM, THERE IS NO PROCEDURE FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHEN THEIR TERM HAS EXPIRED.
AND SO TO HELP STAFF AND TO HELP, UH, CURRENT AND FUTURE COUNCIL, UM, I WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH OPENLY ON THE DIAS HOW WE CAN, UH, CREATE SOME KIND OF POLICY THAT DIRECTS, UM, US TO KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN WE LEAVE.
UM, AND THAT'S, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW THE INS AND OUT OF IT, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT SINCE THEY, UM, UNDERSTAND AND ARE AWARE OF WHAT GOES ON IN THE BACKGROUND AS FAR AS CREDIT CARDS AND ELECTRONICS, UM, AND EMAILS.
AND SO, UM, BASICALLY I WANNA OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN MY PLAN, MY HOPE IS TO DIRECT STAFF, UH, TO BRING SOMETHING BACK THAT COUNSEL CAN REVIEW.
UM, ANYBODY HOPE FOR DISCUSSION?
UM, SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING HERE THAT YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO GET SOME KIND OF POLICY IN PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTGOING.
UM, WHAT ABOUT A POLICY THAT ALSO INCLUDES INCOMING? OKAY.
SO THAT WAY WHAT'S REQUIRED, UH, AS FAR AS THE, LIKE, WHETHER IT'S EQUIPMENT, WHETHER IT'S THE BATCHES, WHETHER IT'S, UH, FOLLOWING
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EMAIL PROTOCOL, UM, MAYBE ALSO, UH, WHO WE SPEAK TO ON THAT END, UH, KIND OF IN THAT SENSE IS KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.UM, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MY FEEDBACK AS, AS WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE COMING IN CUZ WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING SOMEBODY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
UH, I'D LIKE TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AS WELL.
BUT, UH, IF, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING THAT'S A POLICY PROCEDURE, UH, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AS SOMEBODY THAT'S COMING IN TO ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THIS, WHAT'S OUR PROTOCOL AND SO FORTH.
AND, AND OF COURSE MAYBE SOME, I WOULDN'T SAY ETIQUETTE, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE, OKAY, MAKE SURE WE ARRIVE ON, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF TIME OR IF YOU'RE RUNNING LATE, LET SOMEBODY KNOW, HAVE A BACKUP BUDDY KIND OF THING.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, LOOK AT IT AS FAR AS WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES, WHAT WOULD BE, I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE TIMELINE TO TURN IN YOUR EQUIPMENT, WHETHER THERE'S 24 HOURS OR 48 HOURS, OR DO A RUNDOWN, KIND OF LIKE A DEBRIEF.
WELL, STAFF KNOW WHEN TO CUT OFF THE EMAILS.
LIKE JUST SOMETHING WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF CLOSURE.
I THINK YOUR IDEA TO, TO INCLUDE THE INCOMING COUNCIL IS EXCELLENT, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS NEW AND I REMEMBER SOON, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA AND PARSLEY, THEY BOTH, WE WERE ALL ASKING QUESTIONS WHEN THEY CAME TOO.
LIKE, WELL, WHEN DO I GET SWORN IN? AND, UM, IN FACT, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I GOT A LAPTOP, UM, OR A IPAD.
IT, YOU KNOW, I HAD A COUNCIL MEMBER CALL ME AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU WANT ME TO GET ONE FOR YOU? AND SO IT REALLY, I THINK, NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINED ON WHO WE GO TO AND, AND WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, UM, FOR BOTH INCOMING AND OUTGOING COUNSEL.
UM, AND FOR, AND FOR STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS SHOULD BE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR WOULD LIKE TO ADD? ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO DIRECT STAFF TO, UM, CREATE A POLICY REGARDING, UM, PROCEDURES FOR INCOMING AND OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I'D LIKE TO BRING IT BACK.
THE FIRST OF JU THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY.
MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, FLORES SCALE TO APPROVE ITEM, UH, NUMBER 38 WITH THE ACTUAL VERBIAGE OF INCLUDING INCOMING AND OUTGOING COUNSEL AND TO BRING BACK IN THE FIRST WEEK IN JANUARY.
WE ALSO HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE ITIN ITEM? THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[39. Consider and possible action to approve a spending plan for the Kyle Housing Authority's use of $75,000.00 authorized in the City of Kyle's 2022-2023 budget for repairs and upgrades at the Pete Dressen property. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]
NUMBER 39 TO CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE SPENDING PLAN FOR THE KYLE HOUSING AUTHORITY USE OF 75,000 AUTHORIZED IN CITY OF KYLE 2023 BUDGET FOR REPAIRS AND UPGRADES AT THE P DRESSING PROPERTY.MR. HENDRICKS, MAYOR COUNSEL, OR NO MAYOR, BUT COUNSEL JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UH, THIS ITEM IS, UH, RELATING TO THE $75 COUNCIL GENEROUSLY PUT IN THE BUDGET TO HELP OUR HOUSING AUTHORITY BRING THEIR, UH, UNITS UP TO A LEVEL THAT WILL PASS INSPECTION WITH THEIR INSPECTION PEOPLE.
UM, YOU ALSO MIGHT REMEMBER THAT, UH, HAYES COUNTY ALSO MATCHED OUR $75,000.
SO THEY HAVE $150,000 TO WORK WITH.
YOU'LL SEE IN THE BACKUP, UH, A LIST OF PROJECTS AND A TIMEFRAME THAT ADDS UP TO $151,000 IN CHANGE.
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO IDENTIFY THOSE AND TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT OUR INVESTMENT IN THEM IS SPENT THE WAY WE WANT.
SO, UH, IF YOU APPROVE THIS ACTION TONIGHT, THAT WILL AUTHORIZE THE $75,000 TO BE SPENT, BUT IT WON'T BE ISSUED AS A LUMP SUM TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
UH, I WILL WORK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON AND THEN, UM, THEY'LL WORK ON THOSE AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE FINISHED, THEY'LL LET US KNOW AND EITHER MYSELF OR MY REPRESENTATIVE WILL GO AND INSPECT THAT, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEEN DONE ACCORDINGLY, AND THEN WE'LL REIMBURSE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR THAT WORK.
AND, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HENDRICKS? OKAY.
SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE 75,000, BE GETTING AN ANONYMIZED OF LIKE THE TYPE OF REPAIRS THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING AND, AND HOW MUCH IT COSTS AND SO FORTH, A LIST REPAIRS IS IN THE BACKUP.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT SOME OF THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE WHEN WE APPROVE THE MONEY AND THE BUDGET, THEY COULDN'T
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WAIT TO GET STARTED.SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND STARTED TAKING SOME OF THOSE OFF.
AND I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN, UM, MONITORING THOSE AND THEY ARE IN LINE WITH THE LIST LIST THAT THEY GAVE US EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
SO, UM, WE'LL GO OUT AND WE'LL INSPECT THOSE FIRST AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DONE ACCORDINGLY.
AND THEN WE'LL REIMBURSE THEM FOR THOSE AND THAT WE'LL PROCEED ON UNTIL OUR $75,000 IS SPENT.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE SPENDING PLAN FOR THE HOUSING FOR 75,000.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE THAT WE APPROVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THOSE, UH, APPROVE, SAY AYE.
I'M GLAD WE WENT TO FOR THAT, THAT TOUR, SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT.
[40. Consider and possible action to identify a date and location for the 2023 Council Visioning Workshop. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]
ITEM WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS NUMBER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 40.CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION TO IDENTIFY A DATE AND LOCATION OF THE 2023 CITY COUNCIL VISIONING WORKSHOP.
MISS A, THE NAME, THIS IS THE FUN ONE.
SO, UH, WE WERE DIRECTED, UH, ONE OF THE MOST RECENT COUNCIL MEETINGS TO, UM, IDENTIFY SOME COMMUNITIES, UH, PLACES THAT Y'ALL MIGHT LIKE TO GO VISIT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ANIKA, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL DOES EVERY YEAR.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, LOOK AT WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, HOW THEY'RE DOING IT.
WELL, WE GO AND TOUR THEM, WE TOUR ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE MIGHT WANNA BRING BACK TO KYLE AND WE GET TO TALK WITH CITY STAFF AND SEE HOW THEY DO THAT.
AND UM, SO HERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE SMALL COMMITTEE.
IT WAS RACHEL, MYSELF, ALLISON, OUR NEW COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.
UM, WE HAD KAYLA SHARP, SHE'S OUR CITY PLANNER ON THERE.
VICTORIA WAS ON THERE AS WELL.
AND SO HERE ARE, WE CAME UP WITH FOUR COMMUNITIES FOR YOUR, UM, SELECTION.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS MCKINNEY.
UM, IT IS, UH, 30 MINUTES NORTH OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS.
UM, YOU KNOW, BEING OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN, MCKINNEY IS ALSO OUTSIDE OF A, A LARGE METROPOLITAN CITY.
UM, POPULATION IS 200,000 THERE.
THEY HAVE, UM, A MAIN STREET PROGRAM IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR THEIR DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, THEY UM, HAVE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING TO BRING TO KYLE WORKING REALLY HARD ON.
AND THEN, UM, KEY ATTRIBUTES IS LOCATION, DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, EMPHASIS ON DOWNTOWN PLANNING, EMPHASIS ON COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WAS WE HAD BEEN HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL THAT YOU ALL WANTED TO POSSIBLY LOOK AT A SENIOR CENTER, A LIBRARY, A REC CENTER, A COMMUNITY CENTER, ALL THESE THINGS POSSIBLY COMBINED.
SO THAT WAS ALSO KEY FOR US IN PICKING THE FACILITIES THAT WE PICKED.
AND SO THEY HAVE A GABE NEST BUT COMMUNITY PARK AND IT HAS, UM, DIFFERENT FACILITIES IN THERE.
AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS A CONCEPT PLAN AND THEY HAVE THE APEX CENTER, WHICH IS A FITNESS FACILITY.
IT'S GOT AQUATICS AND IT'S GOT, UM, A PLAYROOM FOR KIDS.
AND THEN THE PSA IS THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR FACILITIES FOR ORGANIZED YOUTH SPORTS.
THEN THEY HAVE THE JOHN AND JUDY GAY PUBLIC LIBRARY, LIBRARY ALSO IN THIS, UH, PARK.
AND THEN, UH, KAYLA PUT THIS PICTURE IN THERE TO, TO SHOW YOU THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING WHAT THEY HAD IN THEIR CONCEPT PLANS.
SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY MAKING IT COME TO LIFE.
UM, SO WE THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE, THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY EXECUTING WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED.
SOME OF THE OTHER CITY FACILITIES IN THAT PARK, SKATE PARK GARDEN, BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS.
AND THEN THE SENIOR RECREATION CENTER.
AND THEN SHE POINTED OUT SOME MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS THERE IN MCKINNEY, WEST GROVE AND THEN DISTRICT 1 21 BECAUSE IT'S ON HIGHWAY 21, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS CLEVER.
UH, THE NEXT CITY IS EL PASO, TEXAS.
UH, THE STATE PLANNING ASSOCIATION WAS THERE AND SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS WENT AND ALSO A FEW OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS.
AND THEY CAME BACK AND THEY WERE ALL EXCITED AND REJUVENATED.
SO WE THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
THEY HAVE OUR RECREATION CENTER, UM, IT'S CALLED THE BEAST EAST SIDE REC CENTER.
IT'S A HUNDRED TO 1000 SQUARE FEET, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
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CALLED MONTE CO.IT'S NOT FUNDED BY A TOURIST, BUT UM, IT HAS ALL SORTS OF DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S GETTING CONSTRUCTED THERE.
I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING MUSEUMS TO KYLE.
THEY HAVE THE CHIHUAHUAS, WHICH IS SO CUTE.
UM, AND THEIR MINOR LEAGUE STADIUM IS SO IT MIGHT BE KIND OF FUN TO GO.
WE TYPICALLY CHOOSE AROUND FEBRUARY, MARCH AND MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE A GAME GOING ON.
UM, AND SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE WORKED ON.
UH, THEY POINT OUT THAT, UH, VICTORIA WROTE THAT EL PASO HAS 11 SENIOR CENTERS THAT MIGHT BE COUNTYWIDE, BUT SHE'S REACHED OUT TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
BUT NONETHELESS, WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THEIR SENIOR CENTERS AND THERE AND HOW THEY'RE FUNDING THEM.
THE NEXT COMMUNITY IS BROWNSVILLE.
UH, IT'S GOT 186,000, UH, POPULATION AND THEN 800 PLUS EMPLOYEES.
UH, HAS A COMMUNITY CENTER, MARKET SQUARE EVENTS HALL SLASH RESEARCH CENTER, ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 1850.
SPORTS PARK AND OUTDOOR COMMUNITY CENTER.
IT'S THE MIDI CULTURAL DISTRICT.
IT HAS THE ZOO AQUATIC CENTER, UM, DEAN PORTER PARK THERE, FINE ART MUSEUM.
ALSO, UH, BROWNSVILLE SPORTS PARK.
UM, AND THEN THE SENIOR CENTER WAS NOT ACTUALLY IN BROWNSVILLE, BUT THERE IS ONE IN MCALLEN.
AND THEN, UM, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE KIND OF STARTING ON THEIR JOURNEY TO GETTING MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS IN BROWN BROWNSVILLE, UM, NEARBY ATTRACTIONS, A SPACEX AND THEN SUGAR LAND, UH, POPULATION OF 111,000 CITY EMPLOYEES.
THEY HAVE IMPERIAL PARK RECREATION CENTER.
UM, THEY HAVE THE SUGARLAND TOWN SQUARE AND THEY HAVE A SENIOR CENTER.
UM, IT WAS OLD, IT WENT THROUGH A RENOVATION IN DECEMBER, 2021.
UM, THEY HAVE THREE LIBRARIES AND IT'S ALL UNDER COUNTING CONTROL, SO THAT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR US TO LEARN ABOUT.
AND THEN, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THE TOWN SQUARE FEATURES MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT THEY'RE ALSO PROBABLY STARTING THEIR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT JOURNEY.
SO THOSE ARE THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TO PICK FROM AND WILLING TO HEAR QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS.
UH, COUNCIL BRADSHAW, I REALLY HATE TO KICK THE CAN BECAUSE THIS IS REALLY EXCITING.
ALL OF THESE SEEM REALLY GREAT, BUT WITH MAYOR GONE AND WITH A SEAT STILL NEEDING TO BE FILLED, I FEEL LIKE POSTPONING THIS WOULD BE BEST.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
MOTION WAS MADE TO POSTPONE THE ITEM BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERTSHAW AND SECOND BY FLO KE.
CAUSE WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE INPUT, YOU KNOW, ON, ON ALL THE CITIES.
CAUSE THE FOUR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LOOKING AT ALL FOUR OF 'EM.
SO CAN WE, I I JUST HAVE A QUESTION GOOD.
UM, CAN, CAN YOU EMAIL THESE TO US AND THEN ABSOLUTELY.
WHENEVER THE NEW PERSON IS ELECTED, CAN YOU EMAIL THAT TO THEM SO WE CAN MAKE THIS DECISION BY JANUARY? ABSOLUTELY.
THOSE OPPOS SAY NICK TO POSTPONING POSTPONE.