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[I.  Call Meeting to Order]

[00:00:05]

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THE TIME IS 7:02 PM IT, UH, IT IS TUESDAY, DECEMBER 20TH, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.

WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

SORRY, BUD.

UH, WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL.

HERE, KAISER.

HERE.

FLORES.

KALE.

HERE.

ZUNIGA.

PRESENT BRADSHAW.

HERE.

PARSLEY.

HERE.

TOBIK HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

[II.  Approval of Minutes]

NEXT UP.

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES.

SPECIAL MEETING AND REGULAR MEETING MINUTES FOR DECEMBER THE SIXTH, 2022.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBI, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARTIALLY.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OATH IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL

[III.  Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.

AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO, PLEASE DO SO.

WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

AND WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A PUBLIC COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.

I DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK.

UH, ANN GRIFFITH.

HI.

UM, DO I? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I WROTE SOMETHING DOWN JUST TO KEEP ME IN.

GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

UM, MY NAME IS ANNE GRIFFITH.

UM, I AM HERE TONIGHT OUT OF CONCERN FOR ONE OF KYLE'S OLDEST CITY PARKS STEEPLECHASE PARK.

I RUN A CHILDCARE BUSINESS.

I'VE BEEN RUNNING IT FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS.

I VISIT A LOT OF PARKS BETWEEN SAN MARCOS, NEW BRATVILLE, SAN MARCUS, KYLE BUTTA, AND EVEN AS SOUTH AUSTIN, UM, IS ONE OF THE BEST PARKS AS FAR AS WHAT IT HAS AVAILABLE TO IT, I'VE SEEN IT HOSTED MANY BIRTHDAY PARTIES, SWEET 16 DANCE REHEARSALS, SOCCER GAMES, BASEBALL GAMES, VOLLEYBALL, FAMILY BARBECUES, AND EVEN IRAN, MANY OLYMPICS THERE FOR TWO YEARS.

STEEPLECHASE HAS A DISC, GOLF COURSE, VOLLEYBALL AND BASKETBALL COURT, TWO BASEBALL DIAMONDS, AND A FOOTBALL SOCCER FIELD.

IT HAS TONS OF TREES, RESTROOM, AND FACILITIES, AND A PLAYGROUND.

WITH ALL OF THAT GOING FOR IT, MY CONCERN IS THE LEVEL OF NEGLECT THIS ESTABLISHED PARK HAS BEEN SUBJECT TO BY THIS CITY ADMINISTRATION AND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

WHAT IS THE MASTER PLAN FOR STEEPLECHASE PARK? IS THERE ONE? WE RECENTLY PASSED A BOND IN 2020, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARKS.

I HAVE SEEN NOTHING DONE TO STEEPLECHASE SINCE FAT PASSING.

THE DOG PARK RIGHT NEXT TO THE STEEPLECHASE PARK IS KEPT IN BETTER SHAPE.

IT HAS A PAVED PARKING LOT.

IT WOULDN'T TAKE MUCH TO REVITALIZE THIS PARK THAT HAS SO MANY ATTRACTIVE FEATURES ALREADY.

A RUBBER MAT, SUCH AS THE ONE YOU PUT IN DOWNTOWN OR FAKE GRASS, LIKE IS OVER IN THE ONE IN LAKE KYLE PARK, TRASH CANS, RECYCLING BINS, PAVED THE PARKING LOT, AND MOST OF ALL, BETTER LIGHTING.

I BELIEVE THAT IF CITY OF KYLE WANTS TO SEE LESS EMPATHY AND TRANSIENT TRAFFIC, WE NEED TO START BEING BETTER STEWARDS OF THE PARKS WE ALREADY HAVE.

STEEPLECHASE CAN BE REACHED ON FOOT OR BIKE BY AT LEAST FIVE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.

CAN WE PLEASE PUT STEEPLECHASE ON THE AGENDA AND POUR SOME OF THE BOND MONEY INTO THE SWEET, VERY LARGE PARK? I MIGHT ADD THAT IF WE DO NOT DO THE BARE MINIMUM INCREASED LIGHTING, PAVED PARKING LOT, MODERNIZED PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, AND BASIC DAILY UPKEEP, IT WILL BECOME SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT WILL BECOME A HAVEN FOR GRAFFITI CRIME AND EVENTUALLY THE HOMELESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THE, UH, THAT IS ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORUMS THAT I HAVE.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO ELSE, WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING DONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE CITIZEN

[00:05:01]

COMMENTS, PERIOD.

IT IS NOW CLOSED.

UH, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ORDER.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WISH TO MOVE ON THE AGENDA? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE.

NEXT

[4.  Proclamation recognizing KLEA and The Pastrano Law firm for their contribution to the Blue Santa Program, benefiting the children of Kyle. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]

UP IS PRESENTATION PROCLAMATION, RECOGNIZING THE KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE BLUE SANTA PROGRAM BENEFITING THE CHILDREN OF KYLE, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, THE PROCLAMATION, UH, GOES WHEREAS THE KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION, FORMERLY KNOWN AS KYLE POLICE EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION, K P E A, HAS BEEN FACILITATING AND PLANNING THE BLUE SANTA PROGRAM SINCE 2012.

AND WHEREAS THE KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION'S BIGGEST PROJECT OF THE YEAR IS THE BLUE SANTA PROGRAM, AND WHEREAS THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM HAS BEEN PROVIDING ANNUAL TOY DRIVES FOR DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND WHEREAS A GROWING COMMUNITY BENEFITS FROM PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN DEDICATED COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A SERVICE TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS IN PURSUIT OF SUPPORTING THE KYLE COMMUNITY, THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM CHOSE TO PARTNER WITH THE KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION THIS YEAR TO HOST A CHRISTMAS EVENT TO RAISE GIFTS FOR KYLE'S YOUTH.

AND WHEREAS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM YIELDED OVER 1000 TOYS FOR THE CHILDREN OF KYLE.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE RECOGNIZES THE HARD WORK AND GENEROUS ENDEAVORS OF BOTH THE KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM, WHICH IS AN INSPIRATION FOR US ALL TO STRIVE TO DO THE SAME.

NOW, THEREFORE, THE THE KYLE CITY COUNCIL HEREBY PROCLAIMS THEIR APPRECIATION TO THE KYLE LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATION, ALONG WITH THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION IN SUPPORTING THE CHILDREN OF THE KYLE COMMUNITY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE, UM, A BIG THANKS AND A SHOUT OUT TO OUR, UH, BLUE SANTA PROGRAM, WHICH EVERY YEAR, UM, PROVIDES HUNDREDS OF TOYS FOR, UH, THE CHILDREN OF KYLE.

UM, AND A, A BIG APPRECIATION FOR THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM WHO HOSTED IT THIS YEAR.

UM, AND TO ME, IT FELT LIKE A BIG, UH, SUCCESS AS I WAS THERE, AND I WAS SEEING ALL THE TOYS, UH, KNOWING THAT THIS SOMETIMES COULD BE A REALLY HARD TIME OF YEAR FOR SOME.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOW AN APPRECIATION FOR, UH, BOTH THE K L E A AND THE, THE LAW FIRM FOR COMING TOGETHER TO BENEFIT THE CHILDREN OF KYLE.

MM-HMM.

.

OH, CAN WE TAKE A PICTURE, TOO? IS THAT POSSIBLE? UNLESS ANYBODY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY REMARKS? CUSTOMER? TOBIAS? YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, YES, I DID, UH, ATTEND ONE OF THESE, THE EVENTS AND, UH, FOR THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, UH, HOSTED BY THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM.

AND, AND I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, WE SAW SO MANY PEOPLE FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, FROM SAN MARCOS TO BUTTA TO WIMBERLEY.

UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME IN AND AND CONTRIBUTED.

SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FAMILIES OUT THERE THAT ARE REALLY STRUGGLING EVEN TODAY, EVEN POST COVID AND SO FORTH.

UH, I DO HAVE, UM, REMEMBERED THAT THERE WERE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT I KNOW OF YEARS AGO THAT RECEIVED THESE KIND OF, UH, CONTRIBUTIONS AND DONATIONS, UH, FOR TOYS AND FOOD AND SO FORTH.

SO IT KIND OF HITS ME A LITTLE PERSONAL ON THE, ON THAT END.

AND I WAS ALSO, UH, ALSO VERY PLEASED TO HELP SPONSOR ALSO THE, THE 5K RACE TOO, TO BE, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THIS IS FOR MR. PERRAN AND ALSO FOR THE CLEA, FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO.

UH, WE, WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU.

AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, FOR THE, THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE FAMILIES.

IT'S VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.

UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PASTRANA LAW FIRM FOR HAVING THIS, UH, BLUE SANTA DRIVE EVENT.

UH, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DID WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE VERY, BEING VERY INCLUSIVE TO MANY RESIDENTS, MANY, MANY, UM, LEADERS.

AND, UM, IT WAS JUST, UH, VERY NICE TO HAVE, UH, AROUND THE, THE END OF THE YEAR EVENT.

SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

WE'RE GONNA DO A PHOTO NOW DOWN THERE.

YEAH, IT'S UP TO YOU.

I'M SHORT, SO I'LL BE DOWN.

[00:10:22]

ALL RIGHT.

THERE WE GO.

ON THE COUNT THREE.

1, 2, 3.

YOU WANT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL

[5.  

Update on various capital improvement projects, road projects, building program, and/or general operational activities where no action is required. ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager

 

  • 25 Days of Christmas - Dec. 1-25
  • The Wall that Heals
  • Polar Bear Splash
  • Youth Basketball League
  • Comprehensive Plan Update
  • Team Kyle Updates
]

RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

MAYOR COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD.

JERRY HENDRICKS, INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

FIRST UP, I'D LIKE TO HAVE MARIANNA COME AND FILL US IN ON ALL THE UPCOMING PARKS ACTIVITIES.

MARIANA ESPINOZA, MARIANA ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

SO WE ARE IN THE FINAL WEEK OF OUR PROGRAMMING FOR 25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS.

UM, AND DUE TO THE ANTICIPATED COLD TEMPS THIS FRIDAY, MOST OF ALL OF OUR PROGRAMMING FOR FRIDAY HAS BEEN MOVED TO TOMORROW.

SO TOMORROW NIGHT IS GONNA BE A REALLY GREAT NIGHT TO GO OUT AND SEE THE LIGHTS.

WE'LL HAVE WINTER WONDERLAND, UM, WEDNESDAY, SO WE'LL HAVE THE SNOW MACHINES BACK OUT.

OUR MUSIC MONDAY THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR LAST NIGHT WILL BE PERFORMING TOMORROW, AND ALL 10 OF THE VENDORS THAT WERE SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY HAVE NOW MOVED TO TOMORROW.

SO TOMORROW WILL BE, UM, KIND OF THE BIG CONCLUSION FOR THE 25 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS.

UM, AND THAT WILL BE HAPPENING FROM SIX TO NINE DOWNTOWN AT MARY CAL HARTSON PARK.

AND THEN WE ARE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE, UH, INITIATIVE THAT THE LOCAL AMBITS BROUGHT FORWARD FOR THE VIETNAM WALL THAT HEALS, UH, THE CITY OF KYLE HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN CHOSEN TO HOST THE WALL THAT HEALS AT LAKE KYLE PARK.

IT WILL BE IN KYLE FROM MAY 4TH TO MAY 7TH.

UM, AND ACCORDING TO THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL FUND, THERE WERE A HUNDRED CITIES APPLIED IN 38TH.

ONE CITIES WERE CHOSEN, AND THE CITY OF KYLE IS ONE OF 'EM.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HOST THAT NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN, JUST A REMINDER TO KICK OFF THE NEW YEAR AT THE POLAR BEAR SPLASH.

WE STILL HAVE REGISTRATION GOING.

UM, AND IT WILL BE ON JANUARY 1ST AT 10:00 AM AT THE POOL.

AND EVEN IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO DR, UH, JUMP INTO THE WATER AND YOU CAN STILL ATTEND AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO ATTEND, WE'LL HAVE BLACK EYED PEAS, MUSIC, AND JUST KIND OF A REALLY NICE ENVIRONMENT TO KICK OFF THE NEW YEAR.

AND IN TWO WEEKS, REGISTRATION FOR THE YOUTH BASKETBALL LEAGUE CLOSES, AND THIS IS FOR YOUTH AGES SIX TO 12.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE, UH, YOUTH BASKETBALL LEAGUE IS MAKING A COMEBACK NOW AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO WE'RE EXCITED.

AND TWO REGISTERED TEAM SIDELINE.COM/KYLE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

NEXT UP, I LIKE TO INVITE OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR WILL ATKINSON TO GIVE US A DATE ON, HEY, MAR MARIANA.

HANG ON.

SORRY.

UH, CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE'S A QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE YOUTH PASS BOWL LEAGUE.

I ACCIDENTALLY HELD A CHIP UP.

SO , UM, WHERE ARE THESE, UM, WHERE IS THIS LADY GONNA BE HELD AT WALLACE? NO, SIMON.

SIMON MIDDLE SCHOOL.

OKAY.

I JUST, I HAD PEOPLE ASKING, SO I JUST WANNA CONFIRM.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

I HAVE GOOD QUESTION.

MARIANA.

OH, ONE MORE QUESTION.

.

SORRY.

.

UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU USUALLY SIGN UP TO? THE POLAR BEAR BEAR SPLASH? ABOUT 50, 40 TO 50 PEOPLE.

OKAY.

OR AT LEAST THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

WE SHOULD.

I WAS THINKING MAYBE WE CAN MAKE THE MAYOR JOIN AND THEN MORE PEOPLE WILL JOIN LIKE THAT .

YEAH.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU ALL JUMP IN WITH US NOW.

UM, I'LL ASK HIM AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

NO, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE WALL.

THAT HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY BIG THING.

SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

THAT WAS IT.

MAYBE WE SHOULD DO IT ON CHRISTMAS EVE .

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE LIKE 10 DEGREES OR SOMETHING.

YES.

NO, THANK YOU, .

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THIRD TIME'S CHARM.

WELL, , WELL ATKINSON, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.

UH,

[00:15:01]

RELATED TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MEET AND GREET EVENTS.

UH, ON THE DECEMBER THE 10TH FROM NINE TO 12, WE HELD OUR COCOA AND COMP PLAN.

UH, WE WERE AT THE PUBLIC WORKS ROOM.

UH, WE HAD DOZENS OF ATTENDEES, UH, WITH OVER 150 UNIQUE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD SET UP.

WE HAD THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT STATIONS, SO THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LOT OF INPUT.

UH, SO WE, AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 473 SURVEY RESPONSES TO SURVEY NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS UP FROM 265 AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MONTH.

SO WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

WE WANT MORE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY WHERE THAT IS AT THIS TIME.

UM, WE'VE DISTRIBUTED OVER 750 CARDS AT THIS POINT, UH, PROMOTING COLLEGE 20 THREE.COM IN THE SURVEY.

AND THE CURRENT SURVEY RUNS THROUGH DECEMBER 30TH AND NUM SURVEY NUMBER TWO IS EXPECTED TO RUN FROM JANUARY 3RD THROUGH FEBRUARY THE 21ST.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UM, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA ASK A LITTLE MORE OPEN WORDED QUESTIONS IN THE NEXT SURVEY.

YES.

BASED ON THE EMAILS, UH, WITH REQUESTING SOME, AN OPTION FOR NO RESPONSE OR, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

YES.

OKAY.

WE ARE ACCOUNTING FOR THE, SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS ALREADY.

OKAY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU WILL.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD AGAIN, JERRY HENDRICKS SYNDROME, CITY MANAGER WITH OUR TEAM KYLE UPDATE.

OUR HIRING MACHINES CONTINUES TO TURN.

WE HAVE TWO NEW, UH, TEAM KYLE MEMBERS TO ANNOUNCE YOU THIS EVENING.

SILAS SKYPE IS NEW WITH OUR STREET CONSTRUCTION AS A TECH ONE.

JOSE HERNANDEZES IS A STREET CONSTRUCTION TECH TWO THAT HAVE JOINED OUR TECH, ONE THAT HAS ALSO JOINED OUR TEAM.

UNFORTUNATELY.

I ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF SAD NEWS.

UH, JOSE ESCOBEL HO JOSE IS, IS GOING ON TO HIS NEXT DREAM JOB.

AND HE'S BEEN HERE SINCE 2016.

HE WAS, UH, PART OF OUR ORIGINAL TEAM THAT TOOK US FROM PAPER PLAN REVIEWS TO ELECTRONIC PLAN REVIEWS SINCE 2016.

HE'S MADE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL THE, THE BUILDERS THAT WE WORK WITH, AS WELL AS OUR TEAM INTERNALLY.

AND, AND, UM, IT'S LIKE OUR POSTER CHILD FOR THE YES ATTITUDE.

SO WE'RE GONNA MISS JOSE, WANNA WISH HIM THE BEST.

AND, UM, DON'T BE A STRANGER.

YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND US.

NO, NO.

I WON'T.

THANK, IF YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING.

UM, SURE.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK AMBER AND JERRY, UH, FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE EMPLOYED HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE CURRENT PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THAT GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK HERE.

UH, MR. HOWARD KOONS, MARIO PEREZ.

UM, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, KNOW YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DO.

UM, AND I WANT TO THANK THE, THE CITY, UM, THE RESIDENTS, UH, THE BUILDING COMMUNITY, UH, FOR EVERYTHING THAT, THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO FOR NOT ONLY US AS A BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UH, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MADE US BETTER.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY WOULD BE A LITTLE AGITATED WITH CERTAIN THINGS, BUT WE ALWAYS FOUND A HAPPY MEDIUM, UH, TO MAKE THEM HAPPY.

TO MAKE US HAPPY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO MAKE THE HOMEOWNER HAPPY, UM, AND TO SUFFICE CODE.

SO, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I'D LIKE TO THANK MY WIFE AND MY CHILDREN.

UM, THERE WAS MANY TIMES WHERE I'D COME HOME KIND OF LATE AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE KIDS READY, READY FOR BED, AND THERE WOULD BE A PLATE IN THE MICROWAVE, .

WOW.

SO I SURELY APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD LUCK BARRON.

COUNSEL.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, JERRY.

A QUESTION FOR JERRY.

COUNCIL FOR TOBI? YES, SIR.

JOSE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE TO OUR, OUR CITY.

UH, YOU KNOW, HEARING YOU TALK ABOUT WHEN YOU APPROACH RESIDENTS SO FORTH, YOU FOUND SOLUTIONS CUZ OUR CITY CONTINUES TO HAVE CHALLENGES.

NO MATTER WHAT WE, WHAT WE DO EVERY YEAR, SOMETHING COMES UP.

SO, WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR DEDICATION AND TO YOUR FAMILY.

CAUSE AGAIN, FAMILY'S MOST IMPORTANT.

AND I CAN SEE RIGHT THERE, YOU HAVE THE BIG SUPPORT OF THAT.

AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU ON YOUR NEW CAREER.

THANK YOU.

OKAY? YES, SIR.

CONGRATULATIONS.

I JUST WANTED TO BE YOU BACK ON, UM, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE SAID.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT, UH, YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

AND WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK ON YOUR NEW SURE.

I'M JUST GOING TO DITO TO ALL THAT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

LOOK, THE TRUTH BE TOLD, I APPRECIATE YOUR WIFE PROBABLY MORE THAN I APPRECIATE YOU .

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT STRONG SYSTEM AT HOME, IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, GET UP EVERY DAY, GO TO WORK.

I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND.

AS A WIFE, AS A MOM, YOU CARRY A LOT ON YOUR SHOULDERS.

AND SO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU

[00:20:01]

ARE INADVERTENTLY SUPPORTING THIS CITY WHEN YOU SUPPORT HIM.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

BEST OF LUCK.

NOT THAT I THINK YOU'LL NEED IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

[6.  CIP/Road Projects and Consent Agenda Presentation. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]

UH, NEXT UP IS CIP P ROAD PROJECTS AND CONSENT AGENDA FOR JERRY.

UH, UM, CUSTOMERS, GO AHEAD.

OH, I HAD A QUESTION FOR JERRY.

UH, ANY UPDATES ON LA VERTE? JERRY, I KNOW THAT IT'S GETTING TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AND YOU SAID YOU HAD A MEETING WITH THEM, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE IN THIS PRESENTATION.

YEAH, LEON HAS THE LINE LINE'S COMING RIGHT UP.

IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE THAT TIME.

OKAY.

THANK COMPLETE, UH, THEY HAVE COMPLETED A NUMBER OF ITEMS ION IN SWING STATION.

THE VOLLEYBALL COURT LIGHT POLES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.

UH, CONCRETE STAIRS UNDER THE FLASH PAD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

WATER LINE OF THE PAVILION HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

THE NEW CURBS AT THE NORTH END OF THE PLAYGROUND HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY INSTALLING THE EXTERIOR TILE OF THE PAVILION LANDSCAPE, THE DOG PARK, THE SWING STRUCTURE OF THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

UH, THE PROJECTED SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE IS JANUARY, 2023.

COUNCIL MEMBER, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? NO, THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE, UM, SOME THINGS GOT MOVED AND DONE.

THE PAVILION AND, UH, PLAYGROUND.

HERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES WHERE WE ARE, UH, ON THE 13TH.

SO LOOKS LIKE THE LANDSCAPE'S BEEN LANDSCAPING'S BEEN GOING IN FAIRLY WELL.

OKAY.

LOOKS GOOD.

PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 76% COMPLETE, UH, LEVEL ONE.

THEY'RE WORKING ON LIGHT FIXTURES.

ON LEVEL TWO.

THEY'RE DOING THE PRIME COAT FOR THE PAINT OF THE PAINT.

UH, THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE SERVER ROOM LAYOUT AND RACKS THAT ARE, AND THEY'RE BEING INSTALLED, PREPPING FOR FINAL GRADING, WEATHER PERMITTING.

IT'S BEEN SLOWING US DOWN A LITTLE BIT WITH THE WEATHER, AS YOU CAN TELL.

AND, UH, THEY'RE ALSO INSTALLING THE LIGHTNING PROTECTION.

UH, THEIR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETE DATE HAS SLIPPED, I UNDERSTAND, UH, TO EARLY APRIL OF 2023.

AGAIN, THE WEATHER IS BEING PLAYING A FACTOR RIGHT NOW.

WASTEWATER TREATMENT EXPANSION PROJECT BASED ON THE PAY ESTIMATES, THE DUE WATERING FACILITIES, 97% COMPLETE.

UH, WE'RE STILL RUNNING INTO ISSUES WITH, UH, SUPPLY CHAIN DELAYS ON, ON THE COMPLETING THAT PROJECT.

UH, THE BULLSEYE PLANT NUMBER ONE, UH, REPAIRS ARE TAKING PLACE.

UH, THE ROAD WORK HAS BEEN DELAYED AGAIN DUE TO THE WEATHER AND TO THE HOLIDAYS.

I HAD A QUESTION, MA'AM.

THOSE BARRELS, THOSE WASTEWATER OR THE COLLECTION RAINWATER BARREL, WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE OF THOSE AT IN MORE, ADD MORE BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE, THE CITY? IS IT, IS IT A VISUAL THAT WE DON'T WANT OR LIKE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO COLLECT THE, THAT RAINWATER COUNCIL MEMBER? THIS IS PART OF A GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED.

THESE ARE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, UH, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD FOR THIS? MM-HMM.

, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, UH, DEVICES THAT ARE BEING USED THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT.

AND THERE'S, UH, RAINWATER AREAS IN THERE THAT, UH, TO KIND OF, UH, CLEAN THE WATER UP.

SO WE GOT SOME NUMBER OF THINGS IN THAT PARTICULAR SITES THAT WE GOT BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING THROUGH A GRANT THAT HELPS US OUT WITH THAT.

IT'S NOT IN THE CODE THAT WE REQUIRE LID, A TYPE OF, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO A PROJECT.

WE DO HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN AND THEY'LL ASK ABOUT, UH, DETENTION.

SO WHAT ARE WAYS TO CUT DOWN ON DETENTION POND? AND WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE 'EM.

YOU, YOU CAN GO TO USE LID DEVICES, FOR EXAMPLE, PERMEABLE PAVERS.

MM-HMM.

, UH, RAINWATER GUARDS, ANYTHING THAT'LL, UH, HELP REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF.

AND MOST OF THE TIME IT'S, IT'S A COST.

THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THE EXTRA COST THAT IT TAKES TO PUT THOSE FEATURES IN OR TO MAINTAIN THEM.

PERMEABLE PAVERS NEED TO BE SWEPT EVERY YEAR.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY SWEEPING PERMEABLE PAVERS.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT THEY DO NEED TO BE SWEPT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THE DISADVANTAGE IS.

THEY ARE EXPENSIVE TO PUT IN AND THEY ARE, THEY BECOME, YOU HAVE TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THOSE THINGS.

SO WE ENCOURAGE, EVERY TIME WE TALK TO A DEVELOPER, WE ENCOURAGE 'EM TO GO WITH LID.

ANY KIND OF LID IMPROVEMENTS.

AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY DON'T REALLY DO THOSE THINGS.

THEY GO WITH THE STANDARD, UH, DETENTION PONDS OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO GET THEIR PROJECT DONE.

BUT IT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE REQUIRE THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT THEY'RE ENCOURAGED.

YEAH.

IT'S NICE TO SEE 'EM.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT DEVELOPERS COULD USE THIS INSTEAD OF A DETENTION OR RETENTION? THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

YES.

AND WHAT WOULD BE THE ADVANTAGE TO USING THIS AS OPPOSED TO THE RETENTION OR DETENTION? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE TO END UP, UH, PAYING IN THE LONG TERM IS THE, UH, UH, THE DRAINAGE FEE, THE LESSON, PREVIOUS COVER YOU HAVE ON YOUR SITE.

YOU CAN GET A CREDIT FOR NOT HAVING TO PAY THAT DRAINAGE FEE.

IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL FEE.

SO IF THEY WANT TO DO THAT AND, AND TRY TO REDUCE THAT FEE, CUZ REMEMBER THAT FEE'S EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR THEY HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE.

AND, UH, IT'S A WAY FOR THEM TO REDUCE THAT COST.

BUT AGAIN, THE INITIAL COST IS WHAT GETS 'EM, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT INITIAL COST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SOUTHSIDE WASTEWATER PROJECT, WE ADDED THE CHANGE ORDER THAT WE HAD, THAT LARGE CHANGE ORDER LAST TIME.

SO THAT DROPPED THE PERCENTAGE OF COMPLETE FROM 94 TO 91.

UH, ONE OF THE BRIGHT SPOTS TODAY IS THE LIST

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STATION IS ONLINE.

IT'S WORKING.

THE FORCE MAIN IS, IS BEING USED TODAY.

WE STILL HAVE, DON'T HAVE, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH THE GRAVITY LINE, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

UH, BUT, UH, THAT LIST STATION IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US GETTING THAT ONLINE.

SO THAT'S A BIG HELP FOR US, UH, THAT, THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE TO DO PUMPING HAUL ANYMORE.

UH, THERE IN FRONT OF THE MURRAY PROPERTY HAS BEEN RESTORED AND SEATED.

THIS IS WHERE WE HAD A BIG ISSUE WITH, UH, TRYING TO PUT A 18 INCH GRAVITY LINE AND A 14 INCH FORCE MAIN IN A, WITHIN, IN 30 FEET BETWEEN THE FENCE AND THE, UH, PAVEMENT.

SO IT WAS A TOUGH PROJECT.

IT'S BEEN COMPLETED.

AND, UH, THE DRAINS, DRAIN, STORM DRAINS HAVE BEEN DONE.

ALL THE WORK'S DONE IN THERE.

UH, WE DO HAVE MINIMUM STAFF WORKING DURING THE HOLIDAYS, BUT RISK, UH, UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CONTRACTOR THAT HE'S GONNA TRY TO WRAP THIS UP BY THE END OF FEBRUARY.

THE CONTRACTOR WANTS TO GET OUTTA THERE TOO.

SO AS, AS WELL AS WE DO, WE WANT HIM TO GO TO GO HOME.

UH, THESE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THESE ARE THE UNT TREATMENTS THAT THEY'VE DONE.

THEY'VE COMPLETED THOSE.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING CLOSER.

ELLIOT BRANCH INTERCEPTOR, WE'RE ABOUT 84% COMPLETE ON THAT.

UH, WE STILL HAVE OUR ROAD CLOSURES THROUGHOUT THE, UH, SUBDIVISION AREA IN THERE.

AND AGAIN, WE'VE DELAYED TO THE, UH, WEATHER THAT WE HAD IN OUR, UH, I'M TRYING TO GET THOSE ROADS PAVED.

UH, THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO GET THESE SCHEDULED EARLY 2023 IF HOPEFULLY THE WEATHER WILL BREAK BY THEN.

UH, WE'RE STILL CLEANING UP THE SITE, TRYING TO WRAP IT UP.

AND AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE MINIMUM STAFF DURING THE HOLIDAYS.

DOWNTOWN RELOCATION OF THE OVERHEAD LINES, UH, THEY, THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA BE STARTING TO RELOCATION OF THE OVERHEAD LINES THIS WEEK.

UH, I DIDN'T GET CONFIRMATION THAT THEY HAD STARTED, BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

UH, FRONTIER HAS COMPLETED THE SPLICING THEY NEEDED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO START TAKING EVERYTHING UNDERGROUND.

AND THEY PLAN TO START IN JANUARY.

OLD POST ROAD.

UH, WE HAVE SOME CULVERTS WE'RE PLACING IN THOSE DRIVEWAYS IN FRONT OF LOWER AND CONCRETE.

THEY'RE ABOUT 90% COMPLETE.

AND, UH, THEY DO PLAN TO HAVE THE CONCRETE CREW START ON THE DRIVEWAYS.

UH, FIRST OF THE YEAR.

INDIAN PAINTBRUSH LIFT STATION.

WE'RE AT 34% COMPLETE.

UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON VALVE VAULT.

UH, THESE, AGAIN, THE CONTRACTOR'S SLOWING DOWN FOR THE HOLIDAYS.

AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO PUT IN SOME MORE PIPELINE AND, UH, SOME MANHOLES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

CENTER STREET, VILLAGE WASTEWATER LINE, PHASE ONE, UH, WE'RE ABOUT 48%.

UH, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED OUR LATEST ESTIMATE YET.

UH, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A ROAD CLOSURE ON HILL STREET FROM, UH, I 35 TO, UH, RM ONE 50.

AND THAT'S GONNA START ON 1223, UH, THROUGH 16 OF 23.

I'M SORRY, 12 23 22 TO ONE 16 OF 2023.

AND THE MESSAGE BOARD WILL GO UP ON 12 21 20 22.

THAT PARTICULAR SECTION ROAD IS A TECHO ROAD.

THEY HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED.

SO, UH, THEY'RE GONNA LET US OPEN AND CUT THAT PROJECT, WHICH SAVED US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BORE THAT, UH, WROTE PROJECT THERE.

THIS IS CONSENT ITEM AGENDAS, UH, ITEMS. THIS IS THE MOWERS FOR THE PARKSON DEPART RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

UH, THEY WERE APPROVED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

PARTS STAFF HAS OBTAINED QUOTES FOR THE MOWERS AND THEY WILL PURCHASE 3 72 INCH PRO TURN MOWERS AND 204 INCH HUSTER MOWERS.

UH, MARIA'S HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.

, UM, WASTEWATER UTILITY ANDOR EASEMENTS.

THIS, THESE ARE ITEMS 13 THROUGH 18.

WE'RE ASKING COUNSEL TO ACCEPT THESE WATER AND WASTEWATER, UH, EASEMENTS FOR THE THREE TRACKS THAT HAVE BEEN OWNED BY THE, UH, ALEXANDER FAMILY.

THESE WERE REQUIRED FOR THE SOUTH SIDE PROJECT.

AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF BARNETT ON THESE NEXT ITEMS. THANK YOU LEON MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE.

FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE ITEMS 18 AND 19, I'M SORRY, EIGHT ITEMS. 19 AND 20 ARE TWO VERY SIMILAR ITEMS. THIS IS US ASKING PERMISSION FROM THE COUNCIL TO APPLY FOR TWO GRANTS, STEP GRANTS, WHICH ARE STRATEGIC TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM GRANTS THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

THE FIRST OF WHICH IS A CMV ENFORCEMENT GRANT.

THAT'S YOUR COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLES.

THE SECOND OF WHICH IS A COMPREHENSIVE GRANT, WHICH IS YOUR TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC OFFENSES FOR PASSENGER MOTOR VEHICLE CARS.

BOTH GRANTS ARE SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 15,000 WITH A 20% CASH MATCH FROM THE CITY OF APPROXIMATELY $3,000.

AND THAT WILL, WHAT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS PUT MORE OFFICERS ON THE ROADS, ON THE STATE'S EXPENSE TO ENFORCE C M V AND YOUR TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS.

NO QUESTIONS ON THOSE.

WE GOOD? YES, MA'AM.

OH, SORRY MARY.

UM, SO FOR AGENDA ITEM 21 AND 22, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I ASKED YOU THIS OR NOT, BUT IT'S NOT FRESH IN MY MIND.

IS THE MONEY ALREADY ALLOCATED FOR THAT? IT IS CORRECT.

COUNCIL, UH, FOR ITEMS NUMBER 21, THIS IS THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY.

THESE ARE THE THREE NEW ADDITIONAL DISPATCH CONSOLES THAT WILL GO INTO THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.

AND IN THE RECENT FUNDING THAT COUNCIL HAS AUTHORIZED, AND I BELIEVE YOU ALSO HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT, THOSE DOLLARS WERE INCLUDED IN THERE.

I WILL MENTION THAT WE, WHEN WE REFRESHED THE QUOTE A FEW WEEKS AGO, THE VENDOR UPPED THE PRICE OF THOSE, UH, COST OF INFLATION FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.

SO YOU DO SEE

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A SLIGHT INCREASE OF ABOUT $19,000 IN CHANGE FROM THE LAST TIME YOU SAW THIS QUOTE.

AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM, YOU'RE CORRECT, ITEM NUMBER 22, THAT'S THE KEY TRACK GUARDIAN SOLUTION.

THIS IS A KEY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WILL COVER THE BUILDING AND ALL OF OUR FLEET FOR MANY YEARS TO COME IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THESE.

THEY'RE COVERED IN THE FUNDINGS THAT YOU HAVE AUTHORIZED AND THE BOND FUNDS.

THANK YOU.

YES MA'AM.

BECAUSE WE ARE PARSLEY.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, CLARIFYING ABOUT ITEM 21.

CUZ WHENEVER YOU GO TO ITEM SEVEN, UH, YOU WILL SEE THE PRICE DIFFERENCE, UH, FROM 1 35 TO ONE 54,000.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE.

YES.

YES MA'AM.

IT DOESN'T MATCH.

WHEN WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE IT THE, THE QUOTE EXPIRED AND WHEN WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US THE NEW REFRESHED QUOTE WITH THE NEW DATE ON IT, IT, THEY HAD AN INCREASE IN THE COST.

AND DID YOU, YOU WANNA MENTION HOW YOU SOLVED FOR THAT FUNDING? UM, SO THE FUNDING FOR THE, UM, FOR THE LCR IS WHAT WE A WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE GONNA BE A SAVINGS WITH OUR CAP COG EXPENSES.

WE HAD AN EARMARKED NUMBER OF UP TO $500,000 TO COVER OUR DISPATCH EXPENSE.

MOVE.

MM-HMM.

AS IT RELATES TO 9 1 1, UH, THE CURRENT ESTIMATES, ALTHOUGH NOT COMPLETE APPEAR, THEY'RE GONNA COME IN WAY LESS THAN 500,000, HOPEFULLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS.

UH, SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE GONNA COVER IT THERE.

PLUS WE HAVE SAVINGS, UH, IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE BOND AND THE FUNDS THAT COUNCIL HAVE AUTHORIZED TO COVER THESE EXPENSES WITH, WITHOUT US ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

THANKS.

CHIEF CUSTOMER.

TOBI? YES.

OKAY.

SO THIS, UH, THE STEP PROGRAM AGAIN, WAS FROM WHAT WE'VE APPROVED THE PAST TWO YEARS.

SEVERAL YEARS.

YES SIR.

SO WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN A RECIPIENT OF THIS GRANT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

YEAH.

AND WE ARE ASKING TO, FOR YOUR PERMISSION NOW, TO APPLY DURING THEIR OPEN GRANT PERIOD FOR THE 2324 CALENDAR YEAR.

SHOULD WE GET THAT GRANT AWARDED TO US? WE WILL CERTAINLY COME BACK TO YOU AND SHARE THAT AND ASK FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO ACCEPT THE GRANT AT THAT POINT.

THIS IS JUST PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT? YES.

SEE IF WE GET IT AND WE'LL COME BACK IF WE DO GET THAT GRANT AWARDED FOR APPROVAL.

THIS ONE, THE MONEY STARTS TRICKLING IN AND THEY'RE, IT'S, YOU GOTTA GET IT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND SO FORTH.

YES, SIR.

RIGHT NOW IT'S OPEN FOR APPLICATIONS AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL CONSIDER THOSE THROUGHOUT THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR, OF THIS GOING INTO 2023.

AT SOME POINT IN 2023 COULD BE EVEN THE SUMMER OF 2023.

WE'LL LEARN IF WE'RE GONNA BE A RECIPIENT AND WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU FOR FILE APPROVAL.

SO THIS IS REALLY TO HELP WITH THE ADDITIONAL PATROL UP ON 35.

SO THAT'S FOR SOME OF THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE'VE, WE'VE APPROVED THESE BEFORE.

IT JUST HELPS THE FUNDING TO WHERE WE CAN HELP THE, THE, THE MONEY COMES BACK TO OUR COP POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WE PATROL THE AREA.

IT DOES, THE STATE ACTUALLY PAYS THAT FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN PUT OFFICERS ON TECHNICALLY, IF YOU WANNA CALL IT OVERTIME EXTRA ASSIGNMENT.

YES.

AND THEY WILL GO OUT AND MAKE OUR ROADWAY SAFER FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE GRANT.

AND THE SAME FOR THE CMV, THE COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE.

THEY'RE ENFORCING ALL THE STATE LAWS THAT APPLY TO THE 18 WHEELERS, THE DUMP TRUCKS, GRAVEL TRUCKS, THINGS THAT MAY BE TEARING UP ROADS OR TRUCKS THAT ARE DRIVING UNSAFE WITH BAD BRAKES, BAD TIRES AND SUCH.

SO THIS PUTS OFFICERS ON THE STREET AT THE STATE'S FUNDING.

YES.

THANK YOU SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

THAT'S A GOOD MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

CUTTING YIELD COUNCIL MEMBER'S AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23 IS A REQUEST BY TEXT.TO REDUCE SOME SPEED LIMITS WITHIN THE C LIMITS OF KYLE.

IN YOUR ATTACHMENTS, THERE WAS A, UH, STRIP, UH, MAP THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO READ.

I HAD TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING, BUT MOST OF IT JUST, JUST REFERENCES SOME SPEED REDUCTIONS THAT THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO IMPLEMENT, UH, ONCE WE GET THIS ORDINANCE, UH, PASSED AND APPROVED.

LET ME KIND OF, SO WHAT I DID IS I'VE TRIED TO PREPARE A MAP FOR YOU THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

AND LET ME TRY TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE.

UH, THIS FIRST ORDINANCE IS GONNA BE A REDUCTION IN SPEED FROM, UH, SPEED LIMITS FROM RM ONE 50 ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH END OF THE HAYES HIGH SCHOOL.

YOU'LL SEE THAT I HAVE A PORTION OF IT MARKED IN YELLOW.

THE YELLOW PORTION IS A SECTION THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND THE ORDINANCE ONLY COVERS THAT AREA.

THE GREEN IS WHAT'S NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, BUT THEY DID LOWER THAT SECTION FROM 50 TO 45 ALL THE WAY UP TO THE NORTH END OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.

AT THE NORTH END OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.

IT STAYS AT 50 MILES AN HOUR THERE AS THE END MOUNTAIN CITY.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT, UH, MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR AS TO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO.

THIS NEXT ONE ON ONE 50 WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DIFFICULT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I HAD TO CALL THE TECH DOT, UH, PERSON AND ASK HIM WHAT EXACTLY WAS HAPPENING.

BUT, UH, ALSO PREPARE A MAP FOR THIS ONE.

AND THEY TAKE THE LIMITS OF THE PROJECT FROM, UH, I ACTUALLY I 35 ALL THE WAY TO 21.

UM, THE SECTION IN BLUE IS, UH, THEY WERE SAYING THE SPEED LIMITS, IT ALREADY IS 35 AND THEY'RE GONNA KEEP IT AT 35 SORE, NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.

SO THAT SECTION IN BLUE STAYS AT 35.

THE SECTION FROM, AND THE YELLOW SECTION AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA GO FROM 50 TO 45.

AND I HAVE MY NOTES HERE SO I DON'T MESS THAT UP.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THE YELLOW SECTION GOES DOWN FROM 50 TO 45 AND THE GREEN SECTION UP TO THE RIGHT GOES ALL THE WAY TO 21.

THAT GOES FROM 55

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TO 50.

AGAIN, THE YELLOW SECTION IS ONLY WHAT'S IN THE CITY LIMIT.

SO THE ORDINANCE ONLY COVERS THAT AREA.

YES SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS? SO, OH, SORRY.

CUSTOMERS, LEON, WHY, WHY WAS THAT? WHY DO YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MODIFICATION? DID, WAS THERE A LOT OF SPEEDING ON THAT ONE 50 ROAD? BECAUSE, UH, SO WHY DO YOU WANNA GO FROM 40, WHAT IS IT? THE FIVE MILE 50 TO 45? MM-HMM.

, WE TALKED TO TECH STOP A YEAR AGO ABOUT LOOKING AT DOING SOME SPEED STUDIES ON THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF ONE 50 ALL THE WAY FROM UH, I 35 TO 21.

AND THEY DID THEIR SPEED STUDIES BASED ON THEIR ENGINEERING AND TRAFFIC STUDIES.

THEY RECOMMEND LOWERING THE SPEEDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S DETERMINED BY WHAT WE CALL 85TH PERCENTILE.

SO IF 85% OF THE DRIVERS ARE DRIVING AT A CERTAIN SPEED, THAT'S WHAT THEY TRY TO SET AT THE SPEED LIMIT.

THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT 85% OF THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND ARE DRIVING CAUTIOUSLY AND UH, ARE DRIVING SAFELY.

AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR 15% THAT ARE DRIVING TOO, TOO SLOW OR TOO, TOO FAST.

SO THAT'S HOW THE SPEED LIMITS ARE SET ON, ON TEXT DOT ROADS AND OUR ROADS TOO.

DOES THAT HELP? WELL, YEAH, SORT OF.

CUZ I KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SPEED LIMIT SIGNS OUT THERE.

UM, AND I THINK THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS. PEOPLE DON'T, DON'T SEE WHAT, WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DRIVING, UH, SPEED LIMIT WISE.

SO IF, IF THIS IS GONNA MAKE THE ROAD SAFER, THAT'S FINE.

I JUST WASN'T SURE WHY THEY WERE GONNA CHANGE IT.

YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT IF IT'S SLOWER SPEED, IT WOULD BE SAFER AT LEAST IF THE UH, UH, THE ACCIDENT SHOULDN'T BE AS SEVERE.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WHERE FLOOR SCALE, UM, UH, SO THIS IS AGENDA ITEMS 23 AND 24, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

SO MY ASK WOULD BE, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ASK COUNCIL OR HOW THIS, HOW THIS WORKS, BUT FOR BOTH OF THESE ROADS, I WOULD REALLY, REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE LITTLE SPEED SIGN THAT GOES UP THAT SAYS YOUR SPEEDING OR YOUR SPEED IS, UM, BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA HAS A, A PERFECT POINT, WHICH IS PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS AND THEY'RE NOT REMINDED.

IT'S JUST LIKE A LONG STRETCH.

AND SO THE TENDENCY IS GOING TO BE TO SPEED IN ORDER TO, I GUESS, ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPEED LIMIT ALTOGETHER.

NOT JUST IN THE CHANGE, BUT ALTOGETHER WOULD BE TO PUT SOMETHING UP THERE.

AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I DRIVE IT EVERY DAY WHEN IN OTHER CITIES AND IT, IT'S A REMINDER LIKE SLOW DOWN.

OKAY.

WHAT'LL SAY LIKE, YOU'RE GOING THIS, THIS IS THE SPEED LIMIT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO COLLECTIVELY TO GET THAT ON BOTH OF THESE AREAS.

THAT'S A QUESTION FOR TEXTILE, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I WOULD THINK INITIALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME SIGNS UP SAYING, UH, TO LETTING FOLKS KNOW THERE'S SOME, UH, TRAFFIC CHANGES HAPPENING ON THAT ROAD.

IF THEY COULD DO THAT AND THEN, UH, LOOK AT SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT AS FAR AS SOME KIND OF SPEED NOTICES OR SOMETHING, DEVICES THAT WOULD SHOW PEOPLE'S SPEEDS THERE.

BUT I'LL SEE WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY SAY.

SOMETIMES THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT, UH, STRICT ON WHAT THEY ALLOW ON THEIR HIGHWAYS, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ASK.

OKAY.

AND I'M GONNA BE HONEST, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS.

AT LEAST ON ONE 50 PEOPLE JUST DRIVE MM-HMM.

AND WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING MM-HMM.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE TRAFFIC IS REALLY SLOW WHEN IT'S PACKED UP.

OTHER TIMES THERE'S NO, NO, UH, NOBODY OUT THERE TO NOTICE.

UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY IF THE, HEY THIS CHA THE SPEED LIMIT IS CHANGING, IS GONNA, IS GONNA MATTER BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF THEY REALIZE THAT THAT SPEED LIMIT IS 50, BUT YES.

COULD WE PUT A FLASHING MARQUEE, YOU KNOW, OUR EVENTS SIGN THAT WE CAN HAVE FLASH OR WHATEVER.

COULD WE PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUT? THE ONE THAT'S ON THE TRAILER? DO WE HAVE, UH, THAT OR DO WE ALWAYS RENT THOSE? DO WE RENT THOSE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THOSE.

MIKE.

WHENEVER, UH, WE DO THE JULY 4TH, THERE'S LIKE THE, THERE'S LIKE A, AN L E D MARQUEE THAT SAYS TUNED TO 98 POINTS.

YEAH, WE RENT THOSE.

YOU RENT THOSE.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER PARLEY, I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST THAT MAYBE FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE FLASHING SIGNS WITH THE CHANGE IN SPEED.

UM, AND THEN I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS, THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS.

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S WHAT'S RECOMMENDED, THAT'S WHY WE WILL CHANGE THE, THE SPEED.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF, IF WE CAN PUT TEMPORARY, YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE IN LIMITS, UH, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO REDUCE THE SPEED.

I WILL CHECK WITH TECH DOC.

OKAY.

CUSTOMER TOBI, JUST REAL QUICK, THANK, THANK YOU JULIAN LEON BECAUSE, UH, FOR BACKTRACKING AND, AND LOOKING TO SEE IF THAT WAS THE TRAFFIC STUDY WE, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE AND I WERE, WERE ALSO IN THOSE MEETINGS TOO.

THE REASON WHY IS CUZ THERE ARE SEVERAL FATALITIES THAT WERE OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT WAS ON A MOTORCYCLE.

AND SO, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WERE COMING DOWN THE HILL WE'RE BY THE PAWN SHOP IN THE DOLLAR STORE.

SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF IT WAS COMING CUZ WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT BECOME A, BASICALLY A RACEWAY, UH, ON THAT END.

SO I'M, I'M GLAD IT'S FINALLY COMING FRUITION TO WHERE TEXT DOT HAS FINALLY, UH, GAVE A GREEN LIGHT ON THIS.

AND, AND EVERYBODY MAKES GREAT POINTS ABOUT MAYBE WE CAN NOW THINK BEYOND THE BOX INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING SIGNS, HAVING SOMETHING

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OF A KIOSK OR A LITTLE FLASHLIGHT MOVING FORWARD TO REMIND PEOPLE THIS IS THE SPEED OR SLOW DOWN AND SO FORTH.

BUT, UH, THIS WAS A RESULT OF THAT SPEED STUDY, WHICH I'M GLAD IT'S, IT'S FINALLY TAKING, TAKING PLACE.

CUZ ON AVERAGE THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DRIVE NORMALLY 10 MILES OVER THE PROJECTED SPEED LIMIT.

SO IF IT SAYS 50 MORE LIKELY PEOPLE ARE GOING AT LEAST 60, 65 AND YOU GOT SIMON MIDDLE SCHOOL, YOU GOT PARENTS PULLING OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, YOU HAVE THOSE SCHOOL BUSES THAT ARE COMING OUT AS WELL AND ESPECIALLY AT WATER LEAF AND SO FORTH.

AND SO I'M GLAD WE'RE SEEING THE, THE, THE ACTION ON THIS SO'S THE COMMENT I HAVE.

THANK YOU, UH, CUSTOMER, HE IS THERE A, AN A LAW THAT SAYS THAT THERE NEED TO BE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS LIKE EVERY MILE, EVERY MILE AND A HALF, UM, ON A GIVEN ROAD THAT GIVEN THE, THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED HERE, THAT IF THERE SEEMS TO BE, UM, A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, EVEN WITH A CHANGE IN SPEED LIMIT, IT'S UNLIKELY TO BE RECOGNIZED UNLESS WE GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS RECOGNIZED.

SO I JUST, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD WORK WITH TECH.TO TRY TO GET AN ADDITIONAL SPEED LIMIT SIGN UP? IF, IF WE ARE FOR ANY REASON NOT COMPLYING WITH HOW MANY SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ARE REQUIRED TO BE ON A GIVEN ROAD? I DON'T KNOW OF ANY THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SIGNS PER MILE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU DON'T SEE ANY SPEED LIMIT SIGNS AT ALL, THAT THAT WHAT THEY CALL PRIMA FAIA SPEED LIMIT IS 30 MILES AN HOUR FOR RESIDENTIAL TYPE STREETS, FOR HIGHWAYS, IT'S A DIFFERENT NUMBER.

UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON ENGINEERING JUDGMENT.

UH, ON WHERE WE PUT THESE, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THOSE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS, TYPICALLY THEY'LL PUT 'EM RIGHT AT WHERE THE CHANGE IS GONNA BE.

UH, THE PROBLEM IS THAT, UH, I'VE ALWAYS, AND I'VE DONE IT PERSONALLY, WHEN YOU SEE THE, THE 50 OR 60 WHATEVER SPEED LIMIT AND YOU'RE GOING 70 OR 80, BY THE TIME YOU REALIZE IT'S CHANGING, YOU'RE ABOUT A HALF MILE DOWN THE ROAD AND IT'S, YOU'RE PAST IT ALREADY.

SO TECHNICALLY YOU'RE VIOLATING THE LAW ANYWAY.

BUT, UH, I'LL SEE, I'LL ASK THEM IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO ADD, ADD MORE SIGNS OR WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS, THESE CHANGES ARE THERE INCOMING.

MM-HMM.

, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

CUSTOMER GO.

SORRY, LEONA HATE TO, TO KEEP ADDING STUFF, BUT ONE 50 IS VERY DENSE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

A LOT OF SCHOOLS, AND I'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH WILLY BEFORE FROM TEXTILE, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO GET MORE LIGHTS OUT THERE? MORE SH MORE VISIBLE LIGHTS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE WITH THESE ACCIDENTS.

THERE WAS ONE, TWO WEEKS AGO, IT WAS JUST REALLY DARK.

TWO CARS HIT EACH OTHER INTO THE DITCH.

SO THAT'S A VERY LONG STRETCH.

IS THERE ANY WAY TO WORK WITH TECHO TO GET MORE, WE DON'T NEED SIGNAL LIGHTS, WE JUST WANT LIGHTING.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO 500 YARDS AND PITCH DARK, UM, TO JUST HAVE ANOTHER CAR COMING NEW THE OTHER WAY.

SO I THINK LIGHTING IS WHAT WE NEED ON ONE 50 AND, UH, THIS REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT, UH, YES THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA HELP.

BUT I THINK LIGHTING IS ALSO CRITICAL.

THIS IS, YOU'RE ASKING FOR SAFETY LIGHTING, FOR EXAMPLE, AT INTERSECTIONS, YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SAFETY LIGHTING THERE SO PEOPLE CAN THE INTERSECTION TRUE.

NOT ALWAYS AT THE INTERSECTION.

YEAH, JUST THE STRETCH OF ROAD.

YEAH.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH INSTALLING, UH, THOSE TYPES OF LIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CORRIDOR.

MM-HMM.

, UH, I THINK IF WE'RE PAYING FOR IT, THEY PROBABLY WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE JUST, UH, PLACING A STRING OF LIGHTS.

I'LL EXPECT THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN PAYING FOR THAT.

WELL THERE'S ALREADY POLES, LIKE THERE'S ALREADY, THERE'S PLENTY OF POLES OUT THERE.

THERE'S JUST NO LIGHT ON THOSE POLES.

SO LIKE THAT'S JUST THE P C THING, RIGHT? I MEAN YOU PAY THE, THE, THE, THE FEE, YOU GET A LIGHT BULB UP THERE AND THAT'S, IF THEY'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE ROAD, THEY WOULD WORK, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

RIGHT.

AND WE HAVE LOTS OF POLES.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE, THE ILLUMINATION.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE ILLUMINATION.

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THOSE POLES ARE SET FAR BACK FROM THE ROADWAY, AREN'T THEY? THEY'RE ABOUT 15 FEET OFF THE OFF THE ROADS AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE PRETTY GOOD LIGHTING FOR IF YOU WANT TO TRY TO ILLUMINATE THAT SECTION OF ROADWAY.

SO TEXTILE REALLY IS GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THE FINAL CALL ON THAT, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUT THERE IF THEY CAN DO SOMETHING.

BUT AGAIN, I HAVE A FINGER THEY'RE GONNA ASK US TO PARTICIPATE.

OKAY.

BUT I WILL ASK.

THAT WOULD JUST BE MY SUGGESTION.

NOT OKAY.

CUZ WE'RE A FORCE KILL.

UM, THANK YOU.

I HAD THIS SAME CONVERSATION WITH TECH SIDE, UM, A YEAR, YEAR AGO.

AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE'RE PUTTING A LETTER, I DON'T WANNA SAY PRESSURE, BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

UM, I DIDN'T REALIZE, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I DIDN'T MISUNDERSTOOD, IS WE COULD USE, BLESS YOU, UM, THE EXISTING POLES TO PUT LIGHTS IN.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE MY HESITATION WITH PUTTING NEW LIGHTS OUT THERE IS WE'RE GOING TO RECONSTRUCT THAT ROAD HOPEFULLY.

AND SO I'D HATE TO PUT NEW LIGHTS OUT THERE AND THEN HAVE TO DIG 'EM UP AND WHEN WE DO THE ROADS, BUT IF WE COULD STICK

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NEW LIKE LIGHTS AND EXISTING POLES MM-HMM.

, THAT WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER FOR ALL OF ONE 50.

AND I THINK WE COULD ALSO DO IT FOR DAISY IF THEY HAVE THE POLES OUT THERE AS WELL.

I MEAN EVEN I, I'VE COUNTED AND CUZ THIS WAS A CONCERN OF MINE TWO YEARS AGO AS WELL.

UM, THERE'S LIKE THREE OR FOUR LIGHTS THAT THE, THAT CITY MAINTAINED CUZ I WAS TOLD IF THE LIGHTS ARE FACING THE ROAD THAT IS A CITY LIGHTS AND THEN I KNOW IN THE SCHOOLS IF IT'S FACING INSIDE THERE, THAT'S THEIR LIGHTS.

SO I COUNTED AND THERE WAS LESS THAN FIVE GOING FROM SEVEN 11 ALL THE WAY TO 21.

AND SO THAT WAS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN OF MINE.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD ASK AND FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN PUT LIGHTS ON THOSE EXISTING POLES? I WILL ASK, UH, TEXT ON AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU LEON.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, ALL RIGHT.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, CUSTOMER TOBIAS.

YES.

MAYOR.

MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS IF WE COULD GET A, MAYBE JUST A FIVE MINUTE BRIEFING ABOUT, UH, ANY KIND OF EMERGENCY WEATHER PLANS WE HAVE FOR THIS WEEKEND SINCE WE HAVE MR TO BOSH HERE? I KNOW IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT YEAH, WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY COVER THAT UNDER, UM, CITY MANAGER'S REPORT.

OKAY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? JUST TO GET A BRIEFING CUZ YOU KNOW, THE, THE WEATHER JUST CAME UP, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S WHY, IF YOU DON'T MIND ANY OBJECTIONS, IS THAT OKAY? THANK, THANK YOU.

I THINK THE RESIDENTS MIGHT WANNA KNOW WHAT KIND OF EMERGENCY PLANS WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU.

HOWDY.

I'M WILL PABA.

I'M THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY.

UH, WE ARE AWARE OF THE UPCOMING WEATHER.

WE'VE PUT OUT A FEW WARNINGS.

UH, WE DO HAVE SYSTEMS ON STANDBY TO IMPLEMENT WARMING CENTERS, SHELTERS, AS WELL AS AGREEMENTS IN PLACE FOR MOBILE WARMING CENTERS.

UM, WE JUST NEED TO ACTIVATE THESE THROUGH THE COUNTY OR THROUGH OURSELVES DEPENDING ON, ON WHAT SORT OF SITUATION WE'RE FACING.

IN ADDITION, WE DO HAVE SOME SMALL AMOUNT OF WATER STOCKPILED.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THAT MAY BE MORE SPECIFIC? YES, MA'AM.

I WAS JUST WORRIED ABOUT HOW FAST CAN WE GET THOSE NOTIFICATIONS OUT, UM, IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY THAT THERE IS LIKE BIG POWER OUTS.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY RAIN, UM, IN THE FORECAST FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT I WAS JUST THINKING AHEAD OF, OF LIKE, HOW ARE WE COMMUNICATING THAT MIGHT BE RACHEL, UM, TO THOSE AREAS THAT ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED AND WITHOUT HEATERS WHERE THEY CAN GO.

UM, OKAY.

UH, RACHEL HAS PUT OUT SOME INFORMATION ON, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

OH, SHE WAS READY.

YEAH.

WELL DONE.

RACHEL, SONNY, UH, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE RECORD.

UH, SO WE PUT OUT OUR FIRST POST TODAY, JUST KIND OF WARNING PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW TODAY, TOMORROW IS THE TIME TO PREPARE.

SO CHECK YOUR, YOU KNOW, UH, EMERGENCY SUPPLIES, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE BOTTLED WATER OR THOSE SUNNY THINGS IF YOU CAN.

AS WELL AS MAKE SURE TO SIGN UP FOR THINGS LIKE WARREN CENTRAL TEXAS.ORG G SO YOU CAN GET THOSE TIMELY ALERTS WHEN THEY GO OUT AND, UH, THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT, UH, WE HAVE TEMPLATES PREPARED FOR IF WARMING STATIONS GET, YOU KNOW, UH, CREATED.

WE HAVE THE TEMPLATES PREPARED, WE JUST PLUG IN THE PLACE THE, YOU KNOW, DATE, THE TIME AND ALL THAT READY TO GO.

AND THAT GOES OUT OVER OUR EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM, OUR SOCIAL PAGES, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO SEND THEM OUT TO HOAS AND OUR UTILITY BILLING NEWSLETTER AS WELL.

AWESOME.

UM, AND SAME THING FOR IF, UH, WE END UP HAVING TO USE LIKE A WATER DISTRIBUTION SITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

ALL

[VI.  Consent Agenda]

RIGHT.

UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THEY WISH TO REMOVE? COUNCIL MEMBER OF FLORES KALE? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL AGENDA ITEM NINE PLEASE.

COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY 11, PLEASE.

ANYONE ELSE? COUNCIL TOBIAS? UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT ON NUMBER EIGHT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY, UH, FOR NUMBER EIGHT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK, UH, COUNSEL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE NAME CHANGE AND ALSO WANTED TO THANK, UH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT MS. UH, WESTBROOK FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S GONNA REALLY HELP THEM WHEN IT COMES TO FINDING FUNDING NEXT YEAR.

UH, THE NAME CHANGE REALLY WOULD, UH, REALLY AFFECTED TO WHERE ANY FUNDS OR ANY GRANTS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING THROUGH, UH, THEY COULD REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND, AND, AND LOOK AT OUR APPLICATION PROCESS A LOT, A LOT BETTER AND A LOT.

AND IT GIVES IT MAYBE SOME FLAGS TO WHERE THEY CAN, UH, LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THEIR, UH, SUPPORT ON WHEN IT CAME TO, UH, RENAMING THE, UH, CO ARTS CULTURE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU.

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ANYONE ELSE? POLL NUMBER 22.

UM, ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL ZU IS ASKING TO PULL 22.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? MR. HENDRICKS? I'D LIKE TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 10.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SOMEBODY HAVE THE, HAVE THESE READY OR YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? I'VE GOT IT.

GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEMS. UH, SEVEN EIGHT.

NOPE.

OH YEAH.

12 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23 AND 24.

SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.

SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

UH, THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY IN A WHILE TO FINALLY PASS SOMETHING ON.

FIRST READING.

SO WE HAVE A, THE RULE IS WHENEVER WE HAVE A FULL, UH, UH, SEVEN MEMBER BOARD, IF WE ALL, UH, UNANIMOUSLY VOTE ON SOMETHING FOR FIRST READING, WE CAN FINALLY PASS IT SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK FOR SECOND READING, UH, UNLESS THERE IS OBJECTION.

SO ANYONE COULD SAY THEY WANTED TO OBJECT, IN WHICH CASE IT WOULD COME BACK THE FOLLOWING MEETING FOR SECOND READING.

THE ONLY TWO ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, THIS WAY, UH, ON THE CONSENT ARE THE SPEEDING REDUCTION ITEMS. SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO FINALLY PASSING THOSE TWO ITEMS? NEGATIVE.

ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, THEY ARE PASSED.

UH,

[9.  Authorize award and execution of a Purchase Order to ARIENS COMPANY, Brillion, Wisconsin, in an amount not to exceed $42,679.02 for the purchase of three (3) 72" Gravely Pro-Turn Mowers and associated accessories for Park Maintenance,  This purchase is being made through the BuyBoard Purchasing Cooperative Contract No. 611-20. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation ]

AND WE WILL MOVE BACK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

AUTHORIZED AWARD AND EXECUTION OF PURCHASE ORDER TO AARON'S COMPANY BRILLIANT WISCONSIN, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $42,679 AND 2 CENTS FOR THE PURPOSE, UH, PURCHASE OF 3 72 INCH GRAY VILLAGE PRO TURN MOWERS AND ASSOCIATED ACCESSORIES FOR PARK AND MAINTENANCE MADE THROUGH THE BY BOARD PURCHASING COOPERATIVE.

THIS IS, UH, UH, MS. ESPINOZA, UH, PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FORCE KELL.

HI.

I JUST, UM, HAVE A QUICK KIND OF, UM, SUGGESTION AND THAT IS THAT WE DON'T USE BUYBOARD SO MUCH.

I KIND OF GET, UM, WORRIED WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SEEN AND THERE IS BACKUP MATERIAL.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE ARE ESTIMATES, AND I KNOW ALL KINDS OF DEPARTMENTS ARE USING THE BY BOARD, BUT I THINK WE FALL INTO SOME ISSUES WHEN WE DON'T, UM, HAVE THOSE INVOICES AND THOSE COMPARISONS.

I DID LOOK UP TO SEE IF BY BOARD WAS ALWAYS THE CHEAPEST.

AND IT'S SAID IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST EASIER TO BUY FROM.

AND SO JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TRY TO, BUT WE OBTAINED THREE QUOTES, UM, INSTEAD OF JUST GOING TO BY BOARD, IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT THE VENER REELECTED WAS ON BY BOARD.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT THEN.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

YOU, ANYONE ELSE? MOTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

SECOND.

NINE.

9 0 9, SORRY, SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FLORES KALE.

SECONDED BY COUNCIL TOBIAS THAT WE APPROVE.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.

UH, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? AYE.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

UH, STAFF'S REQUESTED TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA

[11.  Authorize award and execution of a Purchase Order to BOSS, San Antonio, Texas, in an amount not to exceed $128,527.41 for the purchase of a new JCB 3CX-15 Super Backhoe for the Environmental Services & Trade Division.  This purchase is being made under BuyBoard Purchasing Cooperative Contract N0. 685-22.  ~ Chance Padier, Environmental Services & Trades Division Manager]

ITEM NUMBER 11, AUTHORIZED AWARD AND EXECUTION OF PER ORDER TO BOSTON, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, AND AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 128,527 AND 41 CENTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF A NEW J C B THREE CX 15.

SUPER BACK O FOR THE E, S AND T DIVISION.

THIS IS ALSO BY BOARD, UH, PROJECT MR. UM, CHANCE PAD AIR, UH, IT'S HIS ITEM.

ALL RIGHT.

CUSTOMER PARLEY.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT ARE WE USING THIS FOR? UM, CHANCELLOR BAG THE ME UP ON THIS WHEN HE GETS BACK IN, BUT IN THIS BUDGET WE HAD MOWERS APPROVED, REPLACE MOWERS THAT ARE AGING AND THESE MOWERS ARE USED TO DO RIGHT AWAY PROJECTS.

WAS, UH, THIS ONE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A MORE WELL, OKAY.

AND WHERE ARE WE? STORAGING THEM.

WE STORED THESE AT THE PUBLIC WORKS.

AT THE PUBLIC WORKS.

SHARE THE PARKS AND RECREATION YARD OVERALL VETERANS DRIVE.

OKAY.

THAT WAS IT.

IT WAS JUST, UM, I WAS CURIOUS.

THERE WERE SUCH HUGE MACHINES THERE.

I WAS LIKE, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE WE USING THIS FOR? , THEY MO A LOT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 11.

I START A QUESTION MOTION BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

SORRY, JERRY.

PARTIALLY SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRAD SHAW THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? CUSTOMER ZK.

UH, JERRY, SO SORRY.

YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THE ANSWER.

HOW MANY BACKHOES DO WE HAVE? BECAUSE THIS IS A BACKHOE, 128,000.

AND IS THERE ANY SITUATION WHERE LEASING THIS TYPE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT IS A BETTER ALTERNATIVE FOR THE CITY? UM, IF I WERE STARTING A BUSINESS, I THINK I WILL LOOK AT THAT LEASING FIRST BEFORE BUYING SOME HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

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I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BACKHOES WE HAVE, MAYBE BONITA DOES.

WE, WE ONLY HAVE ONE FOR PARKS AND THEN ONE FOR, UH, E, S AND T NOW.

BUT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS HAS THE REMAINDERS FLEET.

SO WE HAVE TWO IN TOTAL FOR NO MANY MORE THAN TWO OUTSIDE OF, UH, PUBLIC WORKS HAS, AND THEY HAVE A WHOLE FLEET OF THEM.

SO THIS IS JUST A PARKS AND REC BACKHOE? CORRECT.

AND SO IS IT A BETTER OPTION TO LEASE EQUIPMENT? I MEAN, OR IS IT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA USE, UTILIZE SO MANY HOURS IN THIS MACHINE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET THE, THE, THE MONEY SPENT ON IT? RIGHT.

WE, IN THE LONG RUN, WE USUALLY USE THEM UNTIL THEY DON'T OPERATE, THEN WE FIX THEM AND USE 'EM SOME MORE.

I DON'T, WE CAN DO AN ANALYSIS ON LEASING, BUT UM, HISTORICALLY WE'VE ALWAYS PURCHASED OUR EQUIPMENT, OUR HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

OKAY.

I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT ANALYSIS FOR YOU AND BRING IT BACK WITH THE BUDGET.

YEAH.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IF SOMETHING OF THIS, LIKE THIS EXPENSE, IF IT'S A BETTER ALTERNATIVE IN THE LONG RUN TO LEASE THE, LEASE THE EQUIPMENT.

YEAH.

RATHER THAN, RATHER, RATHER THAN OWN IT AND THEN MAINTAIN IT OURSELVES.

SURE.

WE'LL BRING THAT BACK.

COUNCIL MEMBER, TOBI.

YES.

UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THE WARRANTY ITSELF.

UM, AND IT HAS A THREE YEAR OR 3000 HOUR, UH, EXTENDED WARRANTY.

UH, DO WE KNOW IF THAT ALSO INCLUDES ? ANY PARTS OR ANY KIND OF MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON IT? LET'S SAY YOU, THESE THINGS ARE GONNA BE USED A LOT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUR TRAIL SYSTEM AND JUST WHATEVER WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, POTHOLES FILLED.

UH, WHAT KIND OF EXTENDED WARRANTY WILL THE IT BE ADDED FOR, FOR THE CITY'S BENEFITS? PRETTY MUCH ALL THE POWERTRAIN WARRANTY, THE, UH, ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST THE REGULAR MAINTENANCE FAR AS LIKE OIL CHANGES AND LUBRICATION.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT COVERS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE.

OKAY.

EVERYTHING ELSE.

DISKS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

HYDRAULICS, IF THEY GO OUT, ET CETERA.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? UH, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL US FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

UM, ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS

[22.  Consideration and possible action to authorize execution of a Purchase Order to KEYTRACK, INC., Houston, Texas, in an amount not to exceed $23,735.05 for Guardian Key Tracker and Maintenance for the Public Safety Center. ~ Jeff Barnett, Chief of Police]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22.

UH, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AUTHORIZE EXECUTION OF A PURCHASE ORDER TO KEY TRACK INC.

HOUSTON, TEXAS IN INTERMOUNTAIN NOT TO EXCEED $23,735 5 CENTS FOR GUARDIAN KEY TRACKER AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, UH, AS CHIEF ITEM, UH, CUSTOMER ZUNIGA.

HI, CHIEF.

UH, THIS IS MOSTLY TO GET THE, GET SOME PRACTICE HERE.

SURE.

SO, UM, HOW ARE WE SPENDING? WHERE, WHERE, WHERE'S THE, THE MONEY COMING FROM FOR KEY TRACK AND WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE PURCHASING EXACTLY? IS IT BADGES OR IS IT ELECTRONIC KEYS? SO, GREAT QUESTION, SIR.

JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE, FOR THE RECORD, THE FUNDINGS FOR THIS ITEM WILL COME FROM THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS AND ANY FUNDS THAT THE COUNCIL IS ALREADY AUTHORIZED FOR THE PROJECT.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THE FACT THAT THIS IS OVER THE $15,000 CITY SET THRESHOLD, WE HAD TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR OFFICIAL APPROVAL.

UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY GONNA BE PURCHASED AT ONE TIME ON THE SIDE OF THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, THE DOLLARS THAT ARE ON THEIR SIDE OF THE PROJECT.

HOWEVER, THIS HAS A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT AND THE PROVIDER, THE SUPPLIER DID NOT WANT THAT CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO BE THEIR CUSTOMER BECAUSE THAT'S WHO WOULD HAVE THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT THEY PREFERRED THAT COME THROUGH THE CITY.

SO THE SAME DOLLARS THAT WERE GONNA BE USED ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE WILL BE THE SAME DOLLARS AND THEY'LL MOVE THOSE AROUND AS NECESSARY, BUT ALL CONTAINED WITHIN THE SAME BUDGET.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

THE ITEM THAT WE'RE PURCHASING, THE GUARDIAN SYSTEM, IT IS A KEY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE WALKING INTO A ROOM AND IT BASICALLY HAVING A BIG COMPUTER CONTROLLED CABINET WITH A COMPUTER SCREEN AND SOFTWARE PROGRAMS TO MANAGE IT, YOU PUNCH IN YOUR EMPLOYEE CODE, IT UNLOCKS THE DOOR, IT GIVES YOU ACCESS TO THE VEHICLES OR THE OFFICES, THE PARTICULAR BUILDING KEYS TO WHICH YOU ARE PRE-PROGRAMMED TO HAVE AUTHOR OR ACCESS OR AUTHORIZATION.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE A PATROL OFFICER, CUZ IF YOU COULD IMAGINE WE HAVE, WE HAVE CLOSE TO 80 VEHICLES IN OUR POLICE FLEET ALONE AND MANAGING THOSE KEYS AND WHO HAS THE KEY TO THAT PARTICULAR VEHICLE IS CHALLENGING.

SO YOU COME ON DUTY AS A PATROL OFFICER AT 6:00 PM YOU COME INTO THE ROOM, YOU ENTER YOUR EMPLOYEE CODE, YOU, IT UNLOCKS THE CABINET, THE CARS TO WHICH YOU HAVE ACCESS, MAYBE THAT'S PATROL CARS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

THOSE KEYS WILL THEN BE UNLOCKED AND AVAILABLE FOR YOU.

YOU TURN THE KEY, YOU PULL IT OUT, THAT CHECKS THAT CAR OUT TO YOU IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM.

YOU CLOSE THE CABINET FOR THE NEXT CUSTOMER IS BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES.

BUT IT DOES THE SAME THING FOR ALL OF YOUR FACILITY KEYS.

THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF LOCKS THROUGHOUT THIS BUILDING AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

IT'LL CONTROL THOSE AS WELL.

AND LET'S SUPPOSE THAT YOU DRIVE YOUR, YOU COME TO THE WORK AND YOU GET INTO A PATROL CAR AND YOU START TO DRIVE IT ON YOUR SHIFT AND IT HAS A MECHANICAL PROBLEM.

AND NOW YOU NEED TO RETURN IT TO THE PD PARKING LOT AND CHECK OUT A SECOND VEHICLE.

YOU'LL BE AUTHORIZED CERTAIN VEHICLES TO CHECK OUT.

AND IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATION, IT'S ALL CONTROLLABLE BY PHONE, BY SENIOR LEVEL SUPERVISORS WHO

[01:00:01]

CAN OPEN UP ADDITIONAL VEHICLES, SHOULD YOU NEED TO BORROW ONE THAT YOU DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ACCESS FOR.

SO IT'S REALLY A KEY MANAGEMENT AND TRACKING SYSTEM THAT'S ALL COMPUTERIZED AND CONTROLLED.

IT ALSO, AND IT DOES IT FOR THE FACILITIES AND THE FLEET.

SO WE'RE MANAGING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF KEYS WITH THIS ELECTRONIC SYSTEM.

SO IT'S A LOT OF TRACEABILITY AND IMPROVED THE EFFICIENCY OF EACH EMPLOYEE OR UNDER THE DEPARTMENT.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND IT WILL STOP THE EMAIL GOING OUT AT 6:15 PM WHO HAS THE CARS TO UNIT 1901 MM-HMM.

.

MM-HMM.

, PLEASE BRING THEM BACK BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO PARTICULARLY WHO PICKED IT UP AND DROVE THAT TO THE AUTO REPAIR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR SHOP OR WHO DROVE IT TO TRAINING THAT DAY.

THIS COMPUTERIZES ALL THAT INSTEAD OF WRITING NAMES ON DRY RACE BOARDS AND SUCH.

AND IT DOES TRACK IT, BUT, UH, UH, YOUR VEHICLES ARE KEYLESS THOUGH, ENTRY OR THEY'RE NOT.

WELL, DO THEY HAVE REMOTE CONTROLS? MM-HMM.

YES, THEY DO.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THIS ACTIVATES REMOTES, I GUESS, OR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REMOTE CONTROL ON THE VEHICLE.

THIS IS, UH, YOUR ABILITY TO GET A SET OF KEYS TO A ROOM.

OKAY.

AN OFFICE R TO A POLICE ISSUED VEHICLE, AND THEN USE THOSE KEYS AND THEN BRING THOSE BACK AT THE END OF YOUR SHIFT AND PUT 'EM BACK IN.

WE CAN ALSO SET ALERTS THAT IF KEYS ARE NOT RETURNED TO A VEHICLE RIGHT BY SIX 30, IT WILL SEND AN ALERT TO SUPERVISORS AND SAY, WE'RE MISSING THE KEYS TO 16 UNIT 1601.

1602.

IT'LL HELP YOU THROUGH TECHNOLOGY.

IT'LL HELP YOU MANAGE ALL OF YOUR FLEET KEYS AND FACILITY KEYS.

OKAY.

SOUNDS, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

ABOUT AN EXAMPLE IF YOU LIKE, OH, HE'S GOT ONE RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

.

SO WE USE THESE AT, UH, AT MY DEALERSHIP.

OH, DOES HE MARK MCKINNEY FOR THE RECORD? MM-HMM.

, THERE YOU GO.

I USE THESE, UH, AT MY DEALERSHIP.

WE'VE GOT ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO 300 KEYS WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH.

MM-HMM.

AS MANY AS 40 OR 50 PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO 'EM.

YOU GO IN, TYPE IN YOUR, YOUR NAME, WHATEVER YOUR, WHATEVER YOUR CODE NUMBER IS, AND THE DRAWER SLIDES OPEN AND IT LIGHTS UP THE ONE KEY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

YOU TAKE IT OUT.

IF YOU TAKE OUT AN EXTRA ONE, IT RECORDS THAT YOU'VE GOT IT.

MM-HMM.

.

SO WHENEVER THINGS TURN UP MISSING, LIKE HE SAID MM-HMM.

, WE KNOW IMMEDIATELY.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WELL WORTH IT, I PROMISE YOU.

AND IS IT ONE TIME EXPENSE OR DOES IT HAVE A MEMBERSHIP CONTINUING MAINTENANCE FEE ON THIS? OR IT MAY BE DIFFERENT FOR THEM THAN IT IS ME.

YEAH.

CHIEF, GO AHEAD ON THAT ONE.

CHIEF, SORRY, MARK.

YOU'RE NOT THE CHIEF.

HERE'S YOUR PHONE TOO.

.

SO WILL THERE BE ANY YEARLY COSTS TO DOING THIS? YES, SIR.

AT THE MOMENT WE EXPECT THIS TO BE THE YEARLY COST FOR OPERATING THEIR SYSTEM.

WHAT YOU SEE NOW IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING BACK IN TWO YEARS.

SHOULD WE GET THIS, THIS FUNDED TONIGHT? THIS WILL HAVE THE TWO YEAR MAIN, THIS WILL GIVE US TWO YEARS WORTH IF YOU APPROVE THE FULL AMOUNT TONIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, SO IT'S ANOTHER, WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THE BUDGET AND, AND HAVE A SIMILAR AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO TWO YEARS OUT FOR THAT.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

CUSTOMER TOBI.

OKAY.

UH, WE HAVE THIS AT WORK AND IT'S SOMETIMES ALSO USED AS A TIME CARD, WHOEVER COMES IN AND THAT'S WHEN THEY ARRIVED ON DUTY.

UH, BUT YES, IT, IT IS BENEFICIAL.

IT IS HELPFUL.

UH, WE USE IT IF WE NEED A, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CHECK OUT A UNIT OR A CRUISER OR WHATEVER.

AND IT ALSO, FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO MAYBE NOT NEED TO HAVE THAT ACCESS, BUT IT ALSO JUST KEEPS TRACK OF WHERE ALL THE KEYS ARE, WHO HAS IT, WHICH EMPLOYEE HAS IT FOR HOW LONG, AUDITS AND SO FORTH ON THAT END.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY NEED TO TAKE IT TO THE DEALERSHIP AND SO FORTH, WHO WAS THE LAST OFFICER THAT HAD IT? YOU CAN JUST KEEP TRACK OF IT, OF IT ALL.

AND SO, UH, I, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS KEY TRACTOR CAUSE THIS IS VERY BENEFICIAL.

YES, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 22.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARLEY, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MAYOR FLORES KAS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.

ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT

[25.  

Conduct a public hearing on the Creation of a Reinvestment Zone and its benefits to the City of Kyle and to provide a reasonable opportunity for any owner of property within the proposed Reinvestment Zone to protest the inclusion of their property within the proposed Reinvestment Zone, which proposed zone consists of approximately 179.341 acres generally located east of Post Road and south of County Road 158, known as Limestone Creek. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor

 

This Public Hearing was left open at the 11/15/2022 City Council Meeting.

]

UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CREATION OF REINVESTMENT ZONE AND ITS BENEFITS TO THE CITY OF KYLE.

AND TO PROVIDE A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OWNER OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE PROPOSED REINVESTMENT ZONE TO PROTECT, UH, UH, TO PROTEST THE INCLUSION OF THEIR PROPERTY WITHIN THE PROPOSED REINVESTMENT ZONE, WHICH PROPOSED ZONE CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 179.341 ACRES, GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF POST ROAD AND SOUTH OF COUNTY ROAD 1 58, UH, ALSO KNOWN AS LIMESTONE CREEK.

UH, THIS ITEM WAS, UH, UH, LEFT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS LEFT OPEN AT, UH, TWO MEETINGS AGO, I SUPPOSE.

AND LAST MEETING AS WELL.

DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AT THE LAST MEETING AND LEFT IT OPEN, UH, TWO MEETINGS AGO.

YOU POSTPONED IT TO DATE CERTAIN FOR THIS EVENING TO, FOR THIS MEETING.

OKAY.

SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME'S DOMINGO CASTILLO.

AND WHAT I'D

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LIKE TO ASK YOU ON THIS TYPE OF, UH, REINVESTMENT ZONES, I KNOW THAT YOU, UH, YOU PLACE A VALUE IN THE PROPERTY AND YOU, AND YOU CREATE A TAX VALUE BASED ON THAT, UH, INITIAL PROPERTY VALUE.

AM I CORRECT? AND ANY, UH, AS A VALUE, IF THE LAND INCREASES, THE TAX RATE GOES UP? AM I CORRECT? UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU'RE ALLOWED TO MAKE COMMENTS.

WE'RE REALLY NOT ALLOWED TO ENGAGE, BUT WE CAN BE TAKING NOTES AND HAVE SOMEONE GIVE YOU THOSE RESPONSES.

OKAY.

AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, MY CONCERN IS THE WAY THOSE, UH, THE VALUE OF THE, UH, TAX RATE IS USED CAUSE STAY WITHIN THAT, UH, THAT, UH, REINVESTMENT ZONE.

I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, IF THE COMPANIES PAYS INTEREST ON THAT.

UH, WHEN THEY BORROW FROM THAT, UH, TAX THAT STAYS WITHIN THAT ZONE.

I DUNNO IF IT'S THEY GET FREE OR DO THEY PAY TAXES ON IT INTEREST WISE, I'M NOT SURE.

SO MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF CLU ME IN.

AND ALSO, I KNOW THAT, UH, PART OF THAT, UH, VALLEY THAT, UH, THE STATE WITHIN THAT ZONE IS USED TO IMPROVE THAT LAND AS WELL.

FINES IS THE TAXPAYERS PAYING FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR THE LAND THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT.

I, I BELIEVE STAFF IS, UH, REQUESTING THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AND THAT WE ARE GONNA, UH, I BELIEVE I HEARD START THE PROCESS OVER, UH, POTENTIALLY THIS IS PAGE SIGN, CITY ATTORNEY.

FOR THE RECORD, WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING BE CLOSED, THE PUBLIC, THE PROCESS TO CONSIDER CREATION OF THE JURORS WILL BEGIN AGAIN.

UH, STARTING IN JANUARY.

UH, WE NEED TO UPDATE THE, UM, MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION FOR THE JURORS.

UH, AND THE AGREEMENTS ARE STILL BEING WORKED ON RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.

OKAY.

SO IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT OR QUESTIONS? UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON? CUT COUNTS FROM FLOOR SCALE.

YEAH.

UM, SO CAN YOU KIND OF GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT WAS A MISTAKE IN THE MEETS AND BOUNDS? LIKE, WHAT WAS IT? THE DEVELOPER TEAM PROVIDED UPDATED MEETS AND BOUNDS.

I CAN'T PINPOINT WHERE THE ISSUE HAPPENED THERE, BUT THEY'VE PROVIDED UPDATED MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTIONS THAT NEED TO BE, UH, THE NOTICE NEEDS TO INCORPORATE THOSE UPDATED MEETS AND BOUNDS DESCRIPTION SO THAT WE HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE INFORMATION.

OKAY.

COULD YOU SEND, IS THERE LIKE A RED LINE COPY THAT WE COULD REVIEW? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A RED LINE OF IT AND MAYBE THEY CAN PRODUCE IT.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, PLEASE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[26.  [Postponed 12/6/2022] Presentation regarding the Ethics Commission's recommended changes to the City's Ethics Code. ~ Mike Rubsam, Ethics Commission Chairman]

26.

UH, 26 AND 27 WILL GO TOGETHER.

THIS WAS POSTPONED AT THE DECEMBER 6TH MEETING, UH, PRESENTATION REGARDING THE ETHICS COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S ETHICS CODE.

UH, AND HERE TO PRESENT IS THE CHAIRMAN, MIKE RSO.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

I'M MIKE ROBSON, CHAIRMAN OF ETHICS COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD.

UH, JENNIFER, WE HAVE THE THINGS RIGHT HERE.

OKAY, GOOD.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND OUR COMPLIANCE OFFICER, DOUG MONTGOMERY AND OUR CITY SECRETARY JENNIFER HOME.

FURTHER INVALUABLE ASSISTANCE AND EXCUSE ME, IN PREPARING THESE SUGGESTED CHANGES TO THE CODE OF ETHICS.

FOR PURPOSES OF THIS PRESENTATION, I WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH THEM ONE AT A TIME.

THERE'S ABOUT 20 OF THEM MOST INVOLVE MINOR TEXT CHANGES OR SOME CLARIFICATION.

YOU MAY STOP ME AT ANY TIME, OF COURSE, AND ASK QUESTIONS.

SO WE CAN START WITH, UH, PAGE ONE, DEALING WITH THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE REMOVED THE TEXT THAT SAYS THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY MAY IN AND OF ITSELF BE A CONFLICT OF ENTRANCE.

UM, THE COMMISSION FELT THAT THIS WAS BOTH THE CONFUSING AND NOT NEEDED.

THE DEFINITION OF THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY IS COVERED LATER ON IN SEVERAL PLACES, SUCH AS, UH, REFERENCE 2, 2 79, PAGE 26, AND DIDN'T SEEM TO BE NECESSARY HERE.

SO WE TOOK THAT OUT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY.

LET'S

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GO TO, UM, SECTION 2 1 43.

WE HAVE REDEFINED THE TERM EMPLOYEE.

AND WHAT WE DID THERE WAS JUST PUT IT IN SIMPLER TERMS. THERE WAS, UH, SOME EXTRA TEXT THERE THAT WE DIDN'T FEEL WAS ME, THAT WAS NEEDED FOR THAT DEFINITION.

AND SECTION 2 1 71, WHICH I BELIEVE IS ON PAGE FIVE.

LET'S SEE HERE.

WE REVISED ITEM NINE BY REMOVING, UH, SUBSECTION A, ONE, TWO, AND THREE IN CHANGING SUBSET B TO READ ITEM 10, I LOST MY PLACE HERE.

THE REMOVED TEXT WAS, UH, A RESTATEMENT OF NUMBER NINE, A, B, AND C DIRECTLY ABOVE IT.

SO IT WAS REDUNDANT ALSO, NINE B WAS BROKEN OUT AND, UH, SEPARATED BECAUSE IT DEALT SPECIFICALLY WITH BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES AND NOT EMPLOYMENT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALL RIGHT.

SO SECTION 2 180 1 SHOULD BE PAGE 11.

WHAT WE DID WAS ADDED, UH, TO THIS A CITY OFFICER EMPLOYEE WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE OF A VIOLATION, WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE THAT HAD NOT BEEN IN THE TEXT PREVIOUSLY.

UH, THE COMMISSION FIGURED THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD THAT SO THAT, UH, TO PROTECT THE PERSONS WHO HAD HEARD SOMETHING BUT HAVE NO SUPPORTING EVIDENCE FROM, UH, BEING PROSECUTED FOR WHATEVER REASON BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REPORT IT.

UM, THAT'S REALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IT'S TO CUT OUT HEARSAY.

LET'S SEE.

ALSO, TEXT WAS ADDED TO POINT THE READER TO ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS REGARDING FAILURE TO REPORT.

THAT WOULD BE ANY FAILURE, YOUR TO REPORT A VIOLATION PURSUANT TO THIS SUBSECTION OR GOVERNED BY DIVISION EIGHT, SECTION 2, 3 0 8.

AND THE CRITERIA IS SET FORTH THEREIN.

SO THAT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION.

BASICALLY.

LET'S GO TO PAGE 17, SECTION 2, 2 72, DEALING WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION.

SUBSET B, WE, UM, CHANGED IT TO READ THE ETHICS COMMISSION SHALL CONSIST OF SEVEN MEMBERS, AND EACH OF EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL SHALL RECOMMEND FOR APPOINTMENT ONE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY.

IT IS SET A POINT AND OF COURSE, UH, THE APPOINTMENT IS MADE BY, UH, ALL OF YOU UP THERE AND NOT JUST ONE PERSON.

THE WHOLE COUNCIL MUST APPOINT TO SEE IN SUBSET C, WE CHANGED IT TO READ, UH, THE COMMISSIONER MEMBER SHALL BE APPOINTED THREE YEAR TERMS TO SERVE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE RECOMMENDING COUNCIL MEMBER'S TERM NOT CORRESPONDING SUBSET F THIS IS A SIMILAR CHANGE.

WE, UH,

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CHANGE FROM APPOINTED TO RECOMMENDED FOR APPOINTMENT.

AND LET'S SEE.

AND G, WE CHANGED MEMBERS RECOMMENDED, APPOINTED TO A RECOMMENDED APPOINTEE.

AND, UM, DID I MISS ONE? WELL, IN, UH, IN ALL OF THESE CASES, BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, UH, WE CHANGED THE TEXT SO THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS RECOMMENDING AND NOT APPOINTING.

THAT'S JUST WORDSMITHING THERE.

LET'S SEE.

YOU'RE GONNA GO TO PAGE 19, SECTION 2, 2 74.

UNDER B EIGHT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ADDED, UH, AN ETHICS VIOLATION COMPLAINT FORM, WHICH IS, UH, EXHIBIT C FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE, UH, LOOKED IT OVER.

WHAT WE DID WAS WE BORROWED ONE, I BELIEVE FROM THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS AND CUSTOMIZED, IT SUED OUR PURPOSES.

MM-HMM.

, IT, UH, JUST MAKES IT MORE CONSISTENT ABOUT HOW THE ETHICS COMPLAINTS ARE FILED AND PROCESSED.

LET'S GO TO PAGE 21.

ALSO IN SECTION 2 2 74 CONFIDENTIALITY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ADDED TEXT WHICH PROTECT THE RIGHTS GIVEN TO AN ACCUSED OFFICER AND EMPLOYEE UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE RIGHT TO A LAWYER, RIGHT TO BE SILENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE JUST DIDN'T WANT CONFLICT WITH CONSTITUTION.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S WORDSMITHING ON SECTION 2, 2 78, PAGE 24.

THAT HAD TO DO WITH A REQUEST BY MS. FLORES KALE FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON FINAL POSITIONS.

LET'S SEE.

LET'S, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, CHAIRMAN, DID THEY, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, DID THE ETHICS ATTORNEY ADVISED THAT THAT WAS FEASIBLE TIMEFRAME? YES.

AND HE SAID IT WAS, ALL OF THESE CHANGES BASICALLY WERE LOOKED OVER AND SUGGESTED BY THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER.

IT WAS OBVIOUSLY A PROFESSIONAL LAWYER HELPED WITH THE WORDSMITHING, BUT THE TIMEFRAME WAS, HIS SUGGESTION WAS DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSION AND WE ADOPTED, UH, HIS RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

LET'S SEE.

SO BASICALLY WE ADDED THE TIMEFRAME WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER FINAL DISPOSITION TO THE WRITTEN OPINION PORTION OF THE DISPOSITION FOR CLARITY UNDER A TWO.

THIS IS, I BELIEVE IT'S ON 25.

EXCUSE ME, I'M TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP HERE.

MY FORMATTING IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM ME.

SO MY PAGE NUMBERS VARY A LITTLE BIT

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UNDER, UH, WRITTEN OPINION.

THE ETHICS COMMISSION SHALL ISSUE A WRITTEN OPINION WITHIN 90 DAYS AFTER THE FILING OF A COMPLAINT.

THE ETHICS COMMISSION SHALL STATE IN A WRITTEN OPINION, ITS FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE FINAL DISPOSITION.

AND WE ADDED THAT FOR CLARITY.

SEE WHERE IT WAS TWO A, I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE NEXT PAGE.

THIS WASN'T CAUGHT DURING OUR, UM, MEETING THAT WE HELD ON IT, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN ERROR ON THIS PAGE.

UH, WE ADDED NUMBER THREE, WHICH SPECIFIES THAT ALL WRITTEN OPINIONS SHALL BE SIGNED BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION.

AND BELOW THAT THERE'S A PARAGRAPH WHICH, UH, HAS NOT NOTATED IN ANY WAY THAT DEALS WITH THE ETHICS COMMISSION DETERMINES THAT A VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED.

AND THERE'S A PARAGRAPH AFTER THAT.

AND BELOW IT THERE'S LETTERS, B, C, D, AND SO ON.

THERE IS NO A.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE, UH, STAFF CHANGE ALL OF THOSE LETTERS.

B BECOMES A, C BECOMES B, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, CUZ THAT HAD BEEN INADVERTENTLY LEFT OUT AND WAS NOT CAUGHT DURING A DISCUSSION.

ALL, ALL RIGHT, UNDER WHAT IS NOW B NOTIFICATION, WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF AN OPINION, COPIES OF THE OPINION SHALL BE FORWARDED BY THE CITY'S SECRETARY OR THEIR DESIGNEE TO THE COMPLAINANT, THE RESPONDENT, THE ETHICS COMPLIANCE OFFICER, AND ANY MEMBER OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION WHO DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISPOSITION OF THE CASE.

AND THEN WE STRUCK THROUGH THE COPY OF THE PEN, SHALL ALSO BE FORWARDED TO THE CITY'S SECRETARY, WHO SHALL, UH, EXCUSE ME, WHO SHALL MAKE IT AVAILABLE AS AUTHORIZED BY LAW BECAUSE THAT PORTION IS NO LONGER NECESSARY.

OKAY.

HMM.

AND COMING TO THE END HERE IN SECTION 2, 2 79, WHICH I BELIEVE IS PAGE 28, PETITION FOR DECLARATORY RULING, WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS CHANGE THE WAY THE NOTIFICATION IS MADE TO SPECIFY THAT THE ETHICS COMPLIANCE OFFICER SHALL FORWARD THE WRITTEN OPINION TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR POSTING ON THE INTERNET VIA THE CITY WEBSITE.

SO WE HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD THAT STATED AS ON THE INTERNET VIA THE CITY OF KYLE WEBSITE.

AND THAT PORTION HAS BEEN REMOVED.

AND THAT IS BASICALLY A CLARIFICATION.

IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME TYPE OF CLARIFICATION ON SECTION TWO 80, UH, ON ITEMS A, B, AND C.

AND WE'VE JUST, UH, SPECIFIED HOW THE NOTATION IS MADE AND STRUCK THROUGH THE PART ABOUT THE INTERNET AND THE CITY OF CAL WEBSITE.

THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE LIST OF CHANGES THAT WE MADE TO THE ETHICS CODES.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBSON.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE? YEAH, I JUST WANNA GET SOME CLARIFICATION, UM, FROM THE ETHICS COMMITTEE AND SINCE YOU'RE THE REPRESENTATIVE, I'LL BE ASKING YOU.

UM, SO PAGE 11, SECTION TWO DASH 180 1, REFERENCES SECTION TWO DASH 3 0 8, WHICH IS ON PAGE 29.

MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND MY ASK, UH, PRIOR TO WAS THAT THERE BE SOME KIND OF CONSEQUENCES.

SO ON PAGE 29, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE, UM, COMMITTEE FELT THE CONSEQUENCES WERE ACCORDING TO THAT SECTION.

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THIS IS, UH, SECTION TWO 80, UH, PAGE, WELL, ON MINE IT'S PAGE 29, SECTION TWO DASH 3 0 8.

FAILURE TO REPORT IN PENALTY.

WHEREAS IT SAYS, UM, ANY CITY OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE OF A VIOLATION SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE THAT IS UNREPORTED VIOLATION OF THE ETHICS CODE HAS BEEN COMMITTED.

AND WHO INTENTIONALLY FAILS TO REPORT SUCH VIOLATION AS PROVIDED IN SUB SUB SUBDIVISION TWO SECTION TWO DASH 180 1 PERSON REQUIRED TO REPORT TIME TO REPORT OF THIS CODE IS SUBJECT TO PENALTIES HEREIN, BUT THERE IS NO REAL PENALTY.

IT JUST SAYS PENALTIES HEREIN.

SO I GUESS I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR A DEFINITION OR TRUE CONSEQUENCES TO, UM, VIOLATING, UH, OF THIS, UM, ORDINANCE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS DISCUSSED CUZ I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION MADE BY THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER THAT THAT BE INCLUDED.

SO WHEN YOU GUYS SPEAK ABOUT THAT SECTION ON PAGE 11, IT REFERS TO SECTION TWO DASH 3 0 8.

MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE, WHAT DID YOU GUYS THINK THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE FOR SOMEBODY WHO VIOLATES? WELL, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES.

UH, DEPENDS ON WHO'S MAKING THE, LET'S SEE, WHERE WAS THE PORTION WHERE THAT WAS OF COURSE A, A PORTION, UH, PERSON COULD BE CENSURED, THEY'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

THEY COULD BE RECOMMENDED FOR DISMISSAL.

UH, THEY COULD BE HAVE A REPRIMAND THERE, THERE'S A SECTION ON THAT.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS NECESSARY TO SPELL IT OUT, UH, IN THIS OTHER SECTION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CUZ IT ALREADY BEEN COVERED.

BUT IT, I UNDERSTOOD THAT.

BUT WHEN ONE REFERENCES ANOTHER, I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD FIND THE SOLUTION IN IN THE OTHER ONE, IN THE ONE THAT'S BEING REFERENCED.

AND SO I GUESS MY CONFUSION IS IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE THAT KIND OF, UM, END RESULT.

IT JUST SAYS HERE END, WHICH JUST MEANS I'M JUST GONNA GO BACK AND REACH THROUGH THE WHOLE ORDINANCE ALL OVER AGAIN.

NOW I SEE YOUR POINT, BUT, UH, EXCUSE ME, IF IT WASN'T RECOMMENDED BY THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER THAT WE DID THAT, THEN IT WASN'T REALLY DISCUSSED.

OKAY.

WELL, MY HOPE WAS THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T RELY ONLY ON, ON THE ATTORNEY, BUT THAT YOU GUYS ALSO BROUGHT YOUR OWN IDEAS.

UM, OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.

UM, PAGE 21 IS REFERENCED AND, UM, IT, I DID NOT, I DID NOT OVERSEE THAT A LOT OF THESE CHANGES WERE, UH, DIRECTLY, UH, BECAUSE OF MY COMPLAINT THAT I FILED.

SO I WAS SURE TO READ THIS, UH, WHOLE ORDINANCE THOROUGHLY.

SO, UH, PAGE 21 DOES, UM, MY QUESTION'S GONNA BE HOW DO YOU THINK AN ACCUSED CAN AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THEIR CASE? IF THEY SPEAK ABOUT THEIR COMPLAINT, WHICH, UH, PORTION OF THE TEXT ARE YOU RELATING TO HERE? UM, ON IT IS THE ONE THAT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, AFFORDED TO THEM 2, 2 74.

YEAH, IT'S PAGE 21, THE BLUE RED LINE.

NUMBER SIX.

IF THE CITY OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE IS AN ACCUSED INDIVIDUAL WITHIN THE COMPLAINT, NOTHING IN THIS SUBSECTION PROHIBITS THE ACCUSED OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE FROM EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS AFFORDED TO THEM BY THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

YES.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, DO YOU BELIEVE IF, UH, AN ACCUSED SPEAKS OUT, UM, THAT THEY CAN AFFECT THE ETHICS COMMITTEE MEMBER AT ALL? AND IF THEY DO, WILL THAT AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF THEIR COMPLAINT? IF AN ACCUSE SPEAKS OUT, BUT WELL, THE ACCUSED PERSON HAS, HAS THE RIGHT TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COUNT THE, UH, COMMITTEE.

OKAY, WELL, IN THIS ORDINANCE THEY ALWAYS DO SPEAK OUT.

THE ACCUSED IS, YOU'RE SAYING THAT, BUT CAN THE ACCUSER, BECAUSE MY QUESTION THEN COMES TO DOES THE ACCUSER HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AS WELL? CERTAINLY.

OKAY.

WELL THIS, THE WHOLE ORDINANCE, THE, THE PUNISHMENT WAS, IF ANY AFTER A COMPLAINT IS FILED, ONE IS NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CASE.

YES.

BUT WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE BY ADDING NUMBER SIX IS TO ALLOW THE ACCUSED TO SPEAK OUT WHILE THE ACCUSER STILL CANNOT.

WELL, LIKE I

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SAY, UH, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION.

SO IF THERE'S ANY PART OF THIS THAT YOU'RE UNHAPPY WITH AFTER THE PRESENTATION IS OVER, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THAT YOU WILL GO THROUGH AS A COUNCIL AND MAKE THE FINAL CHANGES THAT YOU FEEL ARE NECESSARY.

SO THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD, UH, BRING THIS UP.

BASICALLY.

I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE IT WASN'T ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED.

IF YOU FEEL IT IS INCOMPLETE OR INCORRECT, THEN IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO BRING THAT UP TO THE COUNCIL ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

CORRECT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET INTO THE MINDSET OF THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THESE EDITS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION JUST TO SEE IF WHAT, WHAT YOUR IDEA WAS AS FAR AS SAME QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY I, WE DO RELY HEAVILY ON THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE, UM, WE'RE STAYING IMPARTIAL AS WELL.

SO I I WAS JUST, UM, TRYING TO GET YOUR INSIGHT.

WELL, WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING TO THE RIGHTS OF THE ACCUSED AND THE ACCUSER AT ALL TIMES.

UH, WE WOULDN'T, UH, FAVOR ONE OVER ANOTHER FOR ANY REASON OR TRY TO CENSURE ONE OVER ANOTHER.

SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG IN THE TEXT THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED THERE, BUT OF COURSE YOU, YOU HAVE THAT.

RIGHT.

THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY NUMBER SIX IS BASICALLY AFTER READING THE WHOLE, UH, SECTION E FROM PAGE 21 IS JUST GIVEN THE ACCUSED INDIVIDUAL THE FREEDOM TO COMMUNICATE VERBALLY ABOUT THE, UM, ACCUSATION CORRECT OR THE COMPLAINT THAT WAS FILED AGAINST THIS PERSON.

IT JUST, FOR WHAT I'M READING HERE, LET'S SAY, SAY I'M ACCUSED OF SOMETHING MM-HMM.

, RIGHT.

UM, I CAN COMMUNICATE WITH ANYONE REGARDING THE ACCUSATION THAT WAS DONE, UM, AGAINST ME.

NOW IT'S ALL PAPERWORK AND EVIDENCE.

THEY WANT THE DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO BE STAY CONFIDENTIAL.

AM I CORRECT? UM, YES, THERE IS CONFIDENTIALITY THAT IS REQUIRED UNTIL THE CASE HAS BEEN DISPOSED OF.

OKAY.

BUT NOT VERBALLY.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING VERBALLY.

SO I CAN TALK ABOUT IT IF I'M BEING ACCUSED OF SOMETHING, I CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

I, I WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T TELL YOU.

YOU COULD OR YOU COULDN'T.

OKAY.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT I DON'T BELIEVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

CUSTOMER.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THEY'RE GETTING AT ON THAT IS WHERE, WHERE DOES THE CONFIDENTIALITY LIE FOR THE ACCUSER OR THE ACCUSED IN THAT SENSE.

RIGHT.

WHERE IS THE, THE LEGAL RIGHTS FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS? AND, AND GOING BACK TO THE, THE 3.8 IN THE PENALTY PHASE, UH, ON THAT MS. QUELL, I THINK WHEN THAT GETS TO THE CITY, MAYBE THE HR DEPARTMENT IS WHERE THEY WOULD LOOK AND FINALLY GET THAT THEY WOULD, YOU WOULD GET THE ETHICS COMMISSION REPORT AND THEN FROM THERE THEY SAY, THIS IS THE FINDINGS WE HAVE, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AT LIBERTY AS A ETHICS COMMISSION TO SAY YOU'RE FIRED OR WE RECOMMEND TERMINATION RECOMMENDATIONS ONLY.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ONLY ON THAT.

SO YOU DO WELL, YES.

OKAY.

SO YOU DO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT A PERSON BE REPRIMANDED OR CONSIDERED FOR TERMINATION IF THAT WAS THE FINDING, UH, OKAY.

OF THE CASE.

SO THAT IS PART OF TO WHERE YOU SAY THIS PERSON HERE HAS VIOLATED THIS IS, UH, FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS, FOR TERMINATION AND DAYS OFF AND SO FORTH ON THIS.

SO YOU MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, WE CANNOT TERMINATE THEM.

ENFORCE.

OKAY.

SO YOU MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THEY VIOLATED WHATEVER IT IS, THEY FALL UNDER THIS PENALTY.

YES.

THIS PENALTY PHASE.

AND I GUESS FROM THERE, THE CITY DECIDES CORRECT.

THE CITY DECIDES WHAT ACTION TO GO WITH NOT FOR COUNCIL, ELECTED ONLY STAFF.

WE'RE WE'RE GOING WITH CITY EMPLOYEE STAFF.

OH NO, THIS IS FOR EVERYBODY THOUGH.

THIS IS NOT JUST FOR NO.

SO I'M SAYING IF THEY MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THIS PERSON HAS VIOLATED THE ETHICS CODE, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR TERMINATION IS, IS IT IS VALID OR IT HOLDS ON THAT'S ONE POSSIBILITY.

YES.

A POSSIBILITY.

THEN IT GETS PASSED ON TO THE CITY TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION TO SAY YOU'RE NOW TERMINATED.

CORRECT.

WELL, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE CITY STAFF, USUALLY

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CITY MANAGER OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT.

YES.

CUZ I'M TRYING TO, TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT EXACTLY WHAT MS. FLORES KALE'S TRYING TO GET AT.

SHE'S, SHE'S ON THIS PENALTY PHASE, RIGHT? SHE WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THE ACCOUNTABILITY LIES FOR THE PERSON THAT VIOLATED WHATEVER ETHICS RULE RULES IT IS, WHETHER IT'S A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER OR WHOEVER IT IS.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT, IS YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PENALTY PHASE FOR THIS PERSON FOR DOING SOMETHING THAT WAS UNETHICAL.

WHAT IS THE FINAL OUTCOME? ARE THEY FIRED? ARE THEY, DO THEY NEED TO RESIGN? UH, ARE THEY TERMINATED? WELL, I THINK THESE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS FOR PROBABLY LEGAL AS OPPOSED TO ONE OF THE EXACTLY.

FOLK.

SO IF WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION OR ABOUT THE DISCUSSION OF THE, UH, THE ETHICS COMMISSION, WE CAN DO THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.

MM-HMM.

.

AND IF Y'ALL HAVE GOT QUESTIONS OR AMENDMENTS YOU WANNA MAKE, WE'LL GET CHAIRMAN RUBS SOME OFF THE HOT SEAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? ALL RIGHT.

YES.

MORE? YES.

YES.

CUSTOMER HEISER.

UM, SO COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, UH, PREVIOUS WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE ACCUSED BEING ABLE TO SPEAK PUBLICLY ABOUT THEIR, UM, YOU KNOW, USING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, UH, THAT'S, I HAVE THAT CORRECT, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

YES.

SO MY CONCERN WAS JUST IF IF WE'RE GONNA USE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS FOR THE ACCUSED, THEN THE ACCUSER AND EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD FALL INTO THAT SAME CATEGORY.

THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN IS IF WE LET ONE PERSON TALK, WE NEED TO LET EVERYBODY, AND IF WE DON'T LET EVERYBODY, THEN WE SHOULD LET NOBODY.

THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING.

OH, OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THAT I HEARD.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE DUE PROCESS BEFORE, UM, EITHER PARTY CAN SPEAK PUBLICLY AND IF SOMEONE IS TO FILE A COMPLAINT, THERE PROBABLY BE, SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF CONFIDENTIALITY INCLUDED.

UH, I THINK WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, UH, WHEN PEOPLE, UH, JUST KIND OF SAY WHATEVER THEY'RE FEELING IN THE MOMENT, MAKING ACCUSATIONS, WHETHER OR NOT THERE, THERE IS MERIT BEHIND THEM THAT IT DOES, THEY, THEY DO HAVE, UH, RAMIFICATIONS.

SO, UM, IT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THERE, TO, TO SAY THAT NO PARTY IS ABLE TO SPEAK PUBLICLY UNTIL THERE IS A CONCLUSION DRAWN? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD DEBATE DISCUSSION QUESTION FOR COUNSEL.

SO LET ME TAKE, MOVE ON FROM THIS ONE.

THAT'S, AND I'LL OPEN IT UP AND WE CAN DISCUSS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU MR. RSON.

THANK YOU COUNSEL PAGE TO ASK JUST ONE CLARIFICATION QUESTION.

THANK YOU, YOU, SIR.

FROM THE CHAIR, WHICH IS WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PRESENTED IN YOUR ORIGINAL, ORIGINAL PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE THAT WAS, THIS PROVISION WAS ADDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS FOR ME JUST TO UNDERSTAND FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING THE ACCUSED TO EXERCISE REALLY THEIR FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO AVOID RESPONDING.

BUT, BUT SINCE IT'S VERY BROAD, IT'S UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

SO WE HAVE ALL THE, WE HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS IN THERE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE FIRST AMENDMENT WHERE PEOPLE COULD SPEAK OUT.

SO I'M, I'M SEEING WHERE THE, I'M SEEING WHERE THE CONFUSION IS WHERE, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE COUNCIL IS RIGHT THAT EVERYONE'S GOT THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? ONE POINT WAS THE INTENT OF THE LANGUAGE, CUZ YOU MENTIONED RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY AND RIGHT TO, UH, AGAINST SELF-INCRIMINATION ANY RIGHTS GRANTED A CITIZEN BY THE CONSTITUTION.

CONSTITUTION.

IT WAS BROAD.

IT WAS BROAD.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP, UH, AND MOVE ON AND OPEN UP.

NEXT

[27.  

[Postponed 12/6/2022] (First Reading) An Ordinance repealing and replacing the City's Code of Ethics Ordinance No. 961, as amended; providing an effective date; and providing for open meetings. ~ Paige Saenz, City Attorney

]

AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 27.

THIS IS FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE, UH, REPEALING AND REPLACING THE CITY'S CODE OF ETHICS.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 9 61 IS AMENDED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROVIDING FOR, UH, OPEN MEETINGS, UH, MS SIGNS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM IF YOU WANT TO JUST JUMP OFF BY SPEAKING ON THAT PARTICULAR POINT AND WE'LL OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION.

MAYOR COUNSEL PAGE SIGNED CITY ATTORNEY.

FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANNA STATE FIRST THAT MY ROLE IN THIS HAS BEEN TO PREPARE THE, UH, JUST KIND OF REVIEW THE DOCUMENT THAT WOULD ADOPT THESE CHANGES.

UM, MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE COVER ORDINANCE AND IN KIND OF JUST GENERALLY REVIEW THE, THE AMENDMENTS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND THE ETHICS ATTORNEY DID THE WORK ON THE DOCUMENT.

SO IT'S REALLY BEEN PRESENTED FOR COUNSEL FOR CONSIDERATION.

AND, AND THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF KIND OF THE DISCUSSION AND REPORT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE, THE ETHICS COMMISSION CUZ WE KEPT THAT SEPARATION.

THE ETHICS COMMISSION ACTED INDEPENDENTLY ON REVIEWING

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THIS ORDINANCE.

SO, UM, SO I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO WHAT THE LANGUAGE DOES TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WANNA ASK FOR MY OPINION ON WHAT I, WHAT IT, WHAT IT WOULD RESULT IN.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.

UH, SO THE, AGAIN, THIS ITEM IS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADOPTION, UM, AND ANY AMENDMENTS YOU MAY WANNA MAKE TO WHAT IS PRESENTED TO YOU.

THERE'S ONE, THERE'S TWO ITEMS THAT I WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT WAS REPORTED HERE.

UH, THE CITY STAFF HAS ALSO REVIEWED SOME OF THE, THE FORMS RELATED TO THIS AND SUGGESTED ONE CHANGE TO THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE DOCUMENTS.

UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ELECT TO KEEP THEIR INFORMATION CONFIDENTIAL.

AND SO THAT WAS NOTED AND UPDATED IN THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE DOCUMENTS.

SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL CHANGE BEFORE YOU.

AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND CHANGE THAT STAFF WANTED TO RECOMMEND YOU CONSIDER.

IT WAS NOT ADDED HERE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COME DIRECTLY FROM THE, UM, ETHICS COMMISSION AND IT'S MORE OF A DISCRETIONARY ITEM FOR COUNCIL.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS NEW AND DIDN'T COME THROUGH ETHICS COMMISSION.

AND THAT IS THAT, UM, UNDER THE ORDINANCE THERE'S A FIVE YEAR, UH, RETENTION PERIOD FOR OPINIONS UNDER STATE LAW.

THE RETENTION PERIOD IS FOUR YEARS.

STAFF WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ORDINANCE AMENDED TO MAKE THE RETENTION PERIOD MATCH THE STATE LAW RETENTION PERIOD.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO KEEP TRACK OF MULTIPLE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT RETENTION SCHEDULES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF WHAT STATE LAW ALREADY ESTABLISHES.

IT'S JUST EASIER FOR THEM TO ADMINISTER AND IT'S STILL AVAILABLE FOR A, UH, A LENGTHY PERIOD OF TIME, FOUR YEARS VERSUS FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO PUT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL.

IF YOU ACCEPT IT, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK FOR SECOND READING.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THIS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

MS. SIGNS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. HEINS OR COMMENTS? YES.

CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, IN THE ORDINANCE, THERE'S A DEFINITION AREA AND ON PAGE FOUR, UH, SECTION TWO DASH 1 71, IT TALKS ABOUT IMPROPER ECONOMIC BENEFIT, BUT ECONOMIC BENEFIT IS NOT DEFINED.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE ORDINANCE TO HELP CLARIFY.

OF COURSE YOU CAN.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T, IS IT, IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO BE ALL AMENABLE TO IT.

I JUST WANNA HELP.

UM, WHAT, WHAT BULLET NUMBER ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? IT IS ACTUALLY A SECTION, SECTION TWO DASH 1 71, PAGE FOUR.

IT SAYS IMPROPER ECONOMIC BENEFIT.

UM, BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DEFINITION PAGE, PA IT STARTS OFF AT PAGE ONE AND THEN IT DOES HAVE, IT DOES HAVE, UH, ECONOMIC, LET'S SEE, C, D ECONOMIC INTEREST, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE ECONOMIC BENEFIT.

LET'S, AND YOU, WE CAN MAYBE EVEN CHANGE IT TO IMPROPER ECONOMIC INTEREST INSTEAD OF BENEFIT.

YOU'RE SAYING YOUR PROPOSAL IS TO ADD A DEFINITION AND, UH, THERE WOULD BE I GUESS JUST ABOVE ECONOMIC INTEREST AND IT WOULD BE ECONOMIC BENEFIT AND THEN WE CAN JUST DEFINE IT.

MM-HMM.

, WE DEFINE THAT.

I'M SEARCHING FOR THE TERM ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO SEE WHAT'S USED IN THERE.

I WAS JUST LOOKING UNDERNEATH THE DEFINITIONS CAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE EASIEST FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENT.

SO, SO JUST SO YOU CAN CONSIDER THIS, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT ISSUE, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT TERM IMPROPER ECONOMIC BENEFIT IS JUST USED IN THE TITLE AND THE ACTUAL RULE SAYS TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE AND RISK OF IMPROPRIETY, THE CITY OFFICER EMPLOYEE SHALL NOT TAKE ANY OFFICIAL ACTION THAT YOU OR SHE KNOWS IS LIKELY TO AFFECT THE ECONOMIC INTERESTS OF, AND THEN THERE'S A LIST OF PEOPLE AND THEN ECONOMIC INTERESTS IS DEFINED.

YEAH.

SHOULD WE JUST CHANGE IT THEN FROM ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO INTEREST TO JUST STAY CONSISTENT? I I IF THAT, IF THAT MAKES IT, UM, I WATCHED THIS MEETING AND I DO WANNA SAY I REALLY APPRECIATED, UH, KRISTA PIPER, I THINK IS HER NAME.

SHE BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT, UM, THE ETHICS COMMITTEE IS ACTUALLY A PRONOUN.

UM, AND SHE WANTED TO CHANGE SUE OUT THE ORDINANCE.

SO IT WAS, UM, ADDRESSED AS A PRONOUN MEETING.

IT HAS, IT'S CAPITALIZED AND SOMEBODY MADE

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THE COMMENT THAT THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF WORK, BUT YOU COULD DO AN SIMPLE JENNIFER COULD, JENNIFER CAN HANDLE IT.

SO IF I YEAH.

SIMPLE SEARCH AND SWITCH, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT CUZ I APPRECIATED HER MAKING THAT STATEMENT.

UM, YOU TALK ABOUT GOLD STANDARD, I WAS IMPRESSED BY THAT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, DO WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS? I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AND I DON'T WANNA BE THE ONE TO, TO DO ALL THE TALKING.

OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, GO OVER? UH, I HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION ON THE, UH, THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS PROVISION.

SO I, I THINK I CAN SEE IT GOING BOTH WAYS.

THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE, I GUESS OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS, THE ETHICS COMMISSION HAS CONVENED MAYBE FIVE TIMES, SIX TIMES, SEVEN TIMES MAX.

SO IT'S ABOUT A ONCE A YEAR.

BUT SO FAR EVERY RULING HAS BEEN, UH, THEY'VE, AND THEY'VE BEEN COMPOSED ABOUT HALF AND HALF BETWEEN STAFF AND COUNSEL, UH, ACCUSATIONS FROM OR ABOUT STAFF OR ACCUSATIONS ABOUT COUNSEL.

UM, AND IN EACH CASE, YOU KNOW THAT EACH CASE IS DIFFERENT.

AND SO I CAN IMAGINE IN SOME SITUATIONS THE, UH, ACCUSED MAY WISH TO REMAIN SILENT AND IN SOME CASES THE ACCUSED MAY WISH TO SPEAK.

UH, IT, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THAT REVISION, THE WAY I READ IT, WAS THAT BOTH ARE AVAILABLE BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION ALLOWS IT.

AND THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ETHICS RULING THAT IS BASICALLY IT'S JUST SAYING THAT DON'T READ THIS ETHICS CODE AS CIRCUMVENTING YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

AND THAT IS BOTH THE FIRST AND THE FIFTH.

UM, SO WE, THERE IS NO ACTUALLY NO CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT, NO, NO GAG ORDER ON THE ACCUSED.

THE ACCUSER IS MAKING A PUBLIC STATEMENT WITH THE COMPLAINT.

AND THEN, SO THAT'S ALREADY, THAT PATH IS ALREADY SORT OF LAID OUT.

SO YEAH, I THINK IT SEEMS OKAY TO ME IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

BUT OKAY.

THERE, THERE IS A PROVISION EARLIER IN THAT SECTION AT THE VERY BEGINNING WITH THE E IT SAYS, NO OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE SHALL REVEAL INFORMATION RELATING TO THE FILING OR PROCESSING OF A COMPLAINT EXCEPT AS REQUIRED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTY.

SO REVEAL WOULD COVER VERBAL AND WRITTEN, IT WOULD COVER THAT.

THAT'S A BROAD STATEMENT, BUT THEN IT'S, THIS LANGUAGE SEEMS TO BE BALANCING THAT AGAINST YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

AND SO THAT CAN BE DEBATED.

I MEAN, THAT CAN BE A DEBATED ISSUE.

OKAY.

SO SHOULD WE JUST REMOVE THAT THEN? REMOVE THAT.

THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REVEAL.

WELL, THE, THE, YOU'VE GOT THE ACCUSED AND YOU'VE GOT THE COM PERSON WHO'S BEING COMPLAINED ABOUT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESSING OF THE COMPLAINT.

AND I WOULD, UM, RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN PROCESSING THE COMPLAINT SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT IT EXCEPT IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES.

BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROCESS IS TO ALLOW FOR THE EVIDENTIARY HEARING TO PRODUCE THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO, FOR THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A DECISION.

AND THE COUNCIL, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE CITY SECRETARY TAKES RECEIPT OF THE COMPLAINT, SHE SENDS IT OUT.

BUT HAVING THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN JUST THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSING OUT SPEAKING ABOUT IT, DOESN'T REALLY HELP THAT PROCESS.

AND IT'S REASONABLE TO HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS NOT REVEAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE COMPLAINT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO HOW DO WE WORD IT? SO IT'S JUST ADMIN AND NOT THE ACCUSER? THE ACCUSER.

WELL IF YOU'RE GONNA EXPAND IT THERE AT THE END, IF THE CITY OFFICER EMPLOYEE IS ALSO AN ACCUSED INDIVIDUAL, SO THE ACCUSER OR THE ACCUSED, IF YOU'RE EXPANDING IT.

NO, JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA, SO CURRENTLY UNDER THE, THE SITUA, UH, THE CURRENT RULE IS THAT IF YOU MAKE AN ACCUSATION, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO REMAIN SILENT MM-HMM.

BY THE CURRENT CODE UNTIL AFTER THE HEARING IS CONCLUDED.

MM-HMM.

.

AND THEN IF YOU ARE THE ACCUSED, YOU ARE GIVEN RIGHTS TO RESPOND, I BELIEVE 14 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND WHICH YOU MAY RESPOND IN WRITING OR YOU MAY NOT MM-HMM.

.

SO IT ALL SEEMS, IT ALL SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO ME.

BUT, UM, YEAH, I WAS GONNA ADD SOMETHING.

GO AHEAD.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, SORRY PAIGE.

THE KEEP, KEEP ASKING ALL THIS, BUT THAT'S FINE.

SO FOR ME, SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT WITH THE BALANCE AND THAT BOUNDARY OF WHAT IS TRANSPARENCY TO MAINTAIN THE TRUST OF THE POSITION.

SO THINGS COME UP, SOME PROJECTS DON'T WORK OUT, PEOPLE, CITIZENS WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS.

THERE'S LAWSUITS HAPPENING.

SO IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT AS A, UM, COUNCIL

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MEMBER, WHAT CAN I SAY? THAT'S NOT COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

LIKE WHERE, WHERE DO, WHERE WOULD I SEE THE RED FLAG? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE RESIDENTS DO HAVE SOME RIGHTS TO, TO KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE GOING ON.

AND I DON'T WANNA BE TO THE POINT OF JUST SILENT WHERE YOU HEAR CRICKETS.

SO WHERE, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE DO WE GO WHEN WE HAVE A QUESTION OR CONCERN? LIKE, HEY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, MENTION? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT? UM, CUZ THAT IS FOR ME THE HARD PART.

LIKE WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE? AND, AND THEN THE UN UNACCEPTABLE AND THESE DISCLOSURES, UH, WITHOUT TRUST, WITHOUT TREADING THAT FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.

THAT I HAVE AS WELL.

IT'S, IT'S COMPLICATED.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN EASY QUESTION.

MM-HMM.

, I'M JUST KIDDING.

IT'S NOT AN EASY QUESTION , BUT OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANNA SPEAK ON LEGALLY BINDING ISSUES AT THE TIME.

SO YOU'RE, BUT, BUT I MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT'S ACTUALLY, WHAT'S GOING THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERALS.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I I WON'T EVEN KNOW THAT.

SO YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION THAT GOES WAY BEYOND THE I KNOW ORDINANCE, UM, AND THE CONTEXT OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT I THINK THE RESIDENTS PROBABLY NEED TO HEAR SOME OF THIS BECAUSE SURE.

THEY WANNA KNOW WHY AREN'T WE SAYING SOMETHING AND USING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE AND MAYBE EXPANDING A BIT.

THERE, THERE IS INFORMATION THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL BY LAW, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT INFORMATION CONFIDENTIAL.

THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT EVEN SAYS THAT, THAT THERE'S CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION AND THAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN CONFIDENTIALITY THERE.

AND SO PART OF UPHOLDING YOUR DUTIES AS A COUNCIL MEMBER IS, IS HONORING THAT CONFIDENTIALITY UNTIL IT'S OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED.

SO, AND, AND IF THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT, THEN THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN UP WITH STATE LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THOSE ARE STATE LAWS AND YOU'RE JUST FOLLOWING THEM.

NOW THAT DOESN'T HIT EVERYTHING.

YOU GET MORE INTO THE DISCRETIONARY CONFIDENTIALITY, WHICH RELATES TO, THERE'S CERTAIN INFORMATION THAT AS YOU'RE DOING YOUR BUSINESS AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE TIME TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AND MAKE IT PUBLIC, UM, IS NOT APPROPRIATE AT CERTAIN TIMES AND IT BECOMES APPROPRIATE LATER.

AND THE REASON IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AT CERTAIN TIMES IS BECAUSE TO REVEAL THE INFORMATION PUBLICLY, UM, HURTS THE CITY'S POSITION.

AND, AND YOU AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, PART OF YOUR DUTY IS TO LOOK OUT FOR THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY.

AND THAT MEANS, UH, BEING TRANSPARENT WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY AND, AND KEEPING CONFIDENTIALITY WHEN, WHEN IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.

UM, MOST TEXAS, MOST LAWS BENCH RESULTS IN THE INFORMATION BECOMING TRANSPARENT.

SO THERE, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY IN YOUR PROCESSES, PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT, OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THAT GRAY AREA WHERE YOU HAVE TO EXERCISE SOME DISCRETION ON, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT NOW HERE'S WHAT WE CAN TELL YOU, BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP IT CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL APPROPRIATE FOR, BECAUSE IT WILL HURT THE CITY TO REVEAL IT SOONER.

THAT THAT IS A, UM, THAT IS WHERE THE HARD DECISIONS ARE MADE.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT MM-HMM.

, HERE'S WHY AND HERE'S WHY WE COULD SAY THIS NOW AND WHY WE CAN'T SAY IT.

UH, WHY WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL LATER TO REVEAL THIS.

THAT'S PART OF YOUR COMMUNICATION WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND HAVING GOOD COMMUNICATION STAFF AND ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THAT HELPS, UM, BUILD TRUST AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FULFILLING YOUR ROLE INFORMATION WE PROVIDED WHEN APPROPRIATE.

IT'S BUILDING THE TRUST WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AROUND THAT WHOLE CONCEPT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG PICTURE, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S SLOW, BUT PATIENCE AND, AND EVENTUALLY RIGHT.

WE'LL GET TO THE ANSWERS.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S, IT'S HARDER NOWADAYS WHEN IT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT IT FAST.

RIGHT.

I KNOW RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I, I CAN TWEET IT, I CAN SOCIAL MEDIA, RIGHT.

IT'S JUST PEOPLE EXPECT INFORMATION RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR CULTURE IS DOING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT EASY AT ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

CUSTOMER HEISER.

THANK YOU.

WOULD IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT, UH, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA IS ASKING ABOUT IS COVERED JUST IN OUR, THE CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGN WHEN TAKING OFFICE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T SAY IN TERMS OF, IN RELATION TO SHIP TO CITY MATTERS? UH, I BELIEVE SO.

OKAY.

AND AGAIN, IT, IT ENCOMPASSES CONFIDENTIAL DISCRETIONARY, IT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THOSE ISSUES.

THANK,

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THANK YOU.

NOW, AS FAR AS THIS ORDINANCE GOES, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'RE BUILDING IN A BIT OF GRAY WITH THE REFERENCE TO THE US CONSTITUTION IN THE DOCUMENT.

JUST YOU'RE BUILDING IN A BIT OF GRAY ON THE CONFIDENTIALITY SIDE OF THINGS.

SO ANYONE ELSE? CUSTOMER, TOBIAS, IT'S, IT'S UNDERSTANDING YOUR ROLE.

IT'S UNDERSTANDING YOUR ROLE IN, IN PROTECTING EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN, AND YOU'RE CORRECT.

WE DO LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE WE GOTTA KNOW IT AND I GOTTA KNOW IT NOW CUZ I'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING ME, THEY'RE EMAILING ME, I GOTTA GIVE 'EM AN ANSWER, YOU KNOW? AND, AND IT'S HARD CUZ YOU WANT TO BE HONEST AND, BUT YOU'VE GOTTA ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE JUST CANNOT SAY.

IT'S LIKE WHEN THERE'S A CRITICAL INCIDENT OUT THERE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHY, WHO GOT SHOT, HOW DID THEY GET SHOT, WHO'S INJURED AND WHO WAS THE SUSPECTS.

AND IT JUST, A LOT OF THAT STUFF HAS TO BE PROCESSED AND, AND I UNDERSTAND IT.

THE, THE, THE PUBLIC UH, GETS FRUSTRATED CUZ AGAIN THEY WANT ANSWERS AND THEY WANT IT NOW.

BUT IT'S AGAIN, BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOUR COMMUNITY, WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

CUZ IT'S USUALLY SOMETIMES THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ASK OR OTHER PEOPLE.

MM-HMM AND BEING UPFRONT AND HONEST WITH THEM.

I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE CONCERNS, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANT THE ANSWERS AT THIS TIME.

I CANNOT GIVE YOU THOSE ANSWERS.

IT IS A PENDING INVESTIGATION OR WE LET US GATHER THE INFORMATION BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE UPFRONT AND HONEST WITH THEM, THAT'S WHERE YOU BUILD THAT COM, THAT COMMUNICATION LINE, BECAUSE YOU START WITH THE CONVERSATION, CONVERSATION LEADS TO BETTER COMMUNICATION.

YOU'VE GOTTA TALK TO THAT PEOPLE.

BUT YOU GOTTA ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION AS AN, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE CONFIDENTIAL THAT I CANNOT ADDRESS.

AND THAT IS WHY IT IS UP TO US TO RELY ON THE CITY AND THE STAFF TO SAY, GIVE ME SOME ITEMS. GIMME SOMETHING THAT IS LEGAL TO SAY WHAT WE CAN SAY AND SO FORTH.

CAUSE I'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING QUESTIONS.

CUZ WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU DON'T STEP OUTSIDE YOUR BOUNDARIES.

AND THE COMMUNICATION IS, IS ALWAYS ACCURATE.

IT IS ALWAYS ACCURATE.

AND THEN YOU CAN HOLD EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE IF IT'S NOT.

AND THIS SO FORTH.

OKAY.

I THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE HARDEST JOB WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.

THE COUNCIL HAS THE MOST DIFFICULT JOB.

I DO HAVE ONE RECOMMENDED CHANGE TO THE POLICY THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING.

UH, THE THE, IT'S REALLY JUST A, YOU KNOW, WELL TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK BUT THE CHANGE WENT FROM UM, IT WENT TO RECOMMENDER IN TERMS OF HOW I'M TRYING TO FIND IT.

YEAH.

STARTING ON VACANCIES PAGE.

YEAH.

2 72.

BACK ON PAGE 17 AND 18, THERE'S SEVERAL SECTIONS RELATED TO, UH, RECOMMEND CO UH, OR RECOMMEND DOOR.

I WOULD PREFER TO CHANGE THAT TO, UH, NOMINATE OR NOMINATING OR NOMINATE TOUR.

UH, AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE PROCESSES A NOMINATE AND CONFIRM PROCESS SO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER CAN NOMINATE, RECOMMEND IS NOT A WORD THAT I THINK THAT WE GENERALLY USE.

SO I DON'T THINK IT WILL CHANGE THE MEANING OF THE TEXT AT ALL.

BUT IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ONE, THAT'D BE WHAT I WOULD CHOOSE.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS PRESENTING IT.

CUZ YOU, YOU SAY THAT'S YOUR NOMINEE NOW YOUR RECOMMENDE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? I LIKE NOMINEE.

THAT'S A GOOD WORD.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I REALLY WANTED TO, UH, PROPOSE AFTER HEARING THE COMMISSIONER RUB RUN THROUGH IT.

COUNCIL MAYOR FLOOR SCALE.

OKAY.

UM, I HAVE A COMMENT AND A FEW QUESTIONS.

SO I FOR ONE, APPRECIATE THE FIRST PAGE WHERE IT STATES THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY MAY ITSELF BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

UM, PERCEPTION IS REALITY AND THE TRUTH IS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT WE ARE BEHAVING EVEN WHEN WE THINK NOBODY'S WATCHING.

SO IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION TO KEEP THAT IN THERE.

UM, PAGE THREE.

I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE RED LINE ABOUT INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS.

UM, WOULD THAT INCLUDE AN LLC WHICH AN OFFICIAL OWNS OR WORKS FOR?

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IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE HOW THAT'S USED.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND AN EXAMPLE OKAY.

AND THEN ANSWER THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UM, YOU DON'T MEAN RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? YOU MEAN COME BACK AND PUT THAT? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

DO YOU WANNA LOOK FOR IT NOW? IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT I JUST ASSUMED THAT I'LL GIVE YOU THESE.

I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA SLOW YOU DOWN.

I WAS GONNA SEE IF I CAN FIND IT QUICKLY, BUT YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

I CAN, WE, WE GOT A SECOND, PROBABLY HAVE A SECOND READING ON THIS ANYWAY, SO YEAH, WE WILL, UH, IT ALSO MIGHT HELP IF, IF THOSE ARE TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE DIFFERENT PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WE JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH 'EM ONE AT A TIME AS WE MAKE EACH DISCUSSION POINT, WE CAN TAKE A, A, A VOTE ON IT, UH, SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST SORT OF GOING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT ITEMS. OR WOULD Y'ALL PREFER TO JUST KEEP DISCUSSING ALL THE DIFFERENT DETAILS? SO I I I THINK I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE NEW EDITS ON PAGE FIVE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT TALKS ABOUT A PERSON, YOU, YOU CAN'T WHAT CUZ YOU CANNOT DO IT HERE.

YOU CAN'T, CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT.

YOU, HE OR SHE KNOWS IS LIKELY TO AFFECT THE ECONOMIC INTERESTS OF A PERSON OR BUSINESS ENTITY FROM WHOM.

NO, I, I'M, I'M GONNA NEED MORE TIME WITH THIS.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

GO WELL.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE COME BACK WITH THAT.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN ON PAGE 14, UM, THIS IS NOT A RED LINE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AMONG COUNSEL.

UM, UNDER POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS, ANY INDIVIDUAL OR BUSINESS SEEKING A DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT FROM THE CITY MUST DISCLOSE CONNECTION WITH A PROPOSAL FOR A DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT.

UM, MY QUESTION TO COUNCIL WOULD BE DO, DO WE WANT TO LIMIT TO DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT? ANYBODY ASKING FOR ANYTHING FROM THE CITY? SO RIGHT NOW, DISCRETIONARY CONTRACTS DON'T COME UP VERY OFTEN.

UM, BUT THINGS LIKE DEVELOPERS THAT, OR REZONINGS OR TAX INCENTIVES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANYBODY ASKING FOR ANY OF THOSE TO, UM, TO HAVE TO DISCLOSE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE PROVIDED MONEY TO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

DON'T COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TO DISCLOSE ALL CONTRIBUTIONS THEY RECEIVE OF $50 OR MORE ON THEIR MM-HMM.

, RIGHT? BUT HOW IT CURRENTLY STANDS, WE WOULD JUST BE EXPANDING THIS POLITICAL CONTRIBUTION FROM DISCUSSIONARY CONTRACT TO, TO EVERYTHING.

AND THAT WAY WHEN SOMETHING GETS PRESENTED IN FRONT OF US, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO KNOW IN ADVANCE THE AFFILIATION WITH THAT EITHER PERSON REQUESTING A REZONE OR THE TURS OR A DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AWAY.

WE WOULD KNOW AND WE COULD SEE IT IN MORE THAN JUST PROPOSALS.

I KNOW WE JUST GOT A PROPOSAL AND UM, I THINK IT WAS SGR THAT HAD TO DISCLOSE, UM, SOME INFORMATION AND IT WAS REFRESHING AND IT, IT WAS, FOR ME THAT WAS TRUE TRANSPARENCY.

SO IF WE COULD KNOW ANY TIME ANY OF US RECEIVED, UH, POLITICAL FUNDS FROM ANYBODY WHO WANTS ANYTHING FROM THE CITY, I THINK THAT WOULD BRING GREAT TRANSPARENCY.

NOT JUST AMONG US, BUT TO EVERYBODY, ALL THE RESIDENTS AT ANY TIME.

OR LIKE, SO IF, IF THERE WAS A DEVELOPER OR A COMPANY THAT PROVIDED CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR CAMPAIGN TO BE DISCLOSED YES, JUST A DIS OR IF THEY WERE ASKING FOR LIKE A REZONE, YOU CAN KNOW IF THIS PERSON HAS CON CONTRIBUTED, THEN IT DOESN'T AFFECT IT.

BUT IT JUST KEEPS US ALL AWARE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT SECOND TIME AROUND IF YOU GUYS WANNA TALK ABOUT NAP.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY UNDER PRESSURE.

JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS REALLY WHAT I'M ASKING.

UM, AND I THINK I MAY INTER INTERTWINE REAL QUICK.

SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS ANY DEVELOPER OR ANY BUSINESS THAT IS MAKING A CON CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION TO A CANDIDATE AND NEEDS TO BE DISCLOSED IN, IN THE AMOUNT.

SO THAT WAY IF, IF THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL ALL OF US ARE AWARE THAT THIS COMPANY OR THIS DEVELOPER HELP FUND THAT CAM THAT CAMPAIGN.

CORRECT.

SO, YEAH, IT'S ALREADY IN THERE AS IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT SECTION AND IT'S SAYING YES, IF THERE'S A DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT THAT WE DISCLOSE THIS.

WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS ANYBODY ASKING FOR ANYTHING FROM THE CITY THAT WE DISCLOSE, WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE RECEIVED FINANCIAL CAMPAIGNS FROM THEM.

IF I CAN MAKE A SUGGESTION, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT COME BEFORE YOU.

YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, YOU JUST HAVE TO APPROVE IT OR NOT.

AND THAT'S LIKE THE PLATS AND THE SITE PLANS.

SO

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ZONING IS DISCRETIONARY A DISCRETIONARY ACTION.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, SO YOU'VE GOT THE OPTION OF IT'S ANYTHING THAT COMES BEFORE YOU OR ANYTHING THAT'S A DISCRETIONARY ACTION.

ACTION, WHICH WILL BE MOST, MOST, EXCEPT FOR PLATS AND PLANS.

AND, AND THEN COULD WE DEFINE DISCRETIONARY ACTION? SO WE ADD IT AND THEN WE DEFINE IT? YES.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M MAKING, IT'S, I DON'T HAVE STAFF IF IT'S EASIER FOR STAFF TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY.

BUT COUNCIL HEISER IS THE CONCERN HERE THAT, UM, THERE WOULD BE, IM THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF A COUNCIL MEMBER SP FROM THE COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE OR YOU ARE ASKING THE, THE DEVELOPER, THE BUSINESS TO DISCLOSE IT.

SO CAN, I MEAN, IT'S FRESH CUZ I JUST DID MY, UH, MY SWEARING IN.

SO, I MEAN, I HAD TO SWEAR IN BEFORE TONIGHT THAT I DID NOT DO ANYTHING IN BAD FAITH EXCEPT MONEY FOR PROMISES, ET CETERA.

SO, UM, WHERE, HOW, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT CH I GUESS IF WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC, UM, OUR FINANCIAL REPORT'S PUBLIC, COULD WE JUST TAKE A RECORD OF THOSE SO THAT, CUZ THEY'RE ALREADY PUBLIC RECORD, SO WHERE DO, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR US TO DO THAT THAN MAYBE, WELL, THIS ISN'T, LIKE, THIS ISN'T A, A PUNISHMENT.

NO.

THIS WOULD JUST BE LIKE AN FYI AND IT'S, WE ALREADY HAVE TO DO IT UNDER THE DISCRETIONARY CONTRACTS, BUT WE WOULD JUST BE EXPANDING IT TO INCLUDE DISCRETIONARY ACTIONS.

YEAH.

AND SO, BUT THEN THE THING IS, IS ONCE YOU'RE ON COUNCIL FOR TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T, YOU RAN TWO YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO GO BACK OR KNOW THAT THEY CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE OR FINANCIAL REPORTS.

BUT THEN MY QUESTION COMES, IF THERE IS AN ITEM THAT HAS A COMPANY OR A DEVELOPER THAT DONATED TO YOUR CAMPAIGN, DO YOU NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF THEN? I, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT'S WHERE WE WANNA GO.

NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE, THAT MEANS THAT WE, THAT THEN I, IT WOULD BE A PUNISHMENT FOR MAKING A, NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE GOAL THEN, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, JUST STATING, HEY, YES, SO AND SO DONATED 50 BUCKS TO MY CAMPAIGN, BUT WHAT WILL EXACTLY CHANGE? BECAUSE WHETHER I VOTE FOR THE ITEM, THEN THAT MAY LOOK LIKE, OKAY, THEY DONATED AND SHE VOTED YES.

THAT'S, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY THEN.

AND THAT'S THEN, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THEN.

THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT.

AND IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT PEOPLE KNOWING THAT, THEN YOU JUST DON'T TAKE THE MONEY.

FOR ME, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH IT IF SOMEBODY CONTRIBUTED TO MY CAMPAIGN AND $50,000 EVEN AND I STILL VOTED FOR THEM.

THAT'S FINE.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

OKAY.

WELL, WE, WE NEED TO BE, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE.

SO NUMBER ONE, ALL ALL POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS MUST BE REPORTED BY EVERY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.

MM-HMM.

, UM, UH, TWICE A YEAR.

AND THEN DURING AN ELECTION SEASON, I THINK TWO ADDITIONAL TIMES OR MAYBE THREE MM-HMM.

.

SO ANYONE WHO'S MAKING APPLICATION CAN LOOK AND SEE EVERYONE.

AND THEN PER OUR NEW POLICY, EVERYONE WHO'S MADE A, A CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION OVER THE, UH, COURSE OF FOUR YEARS, I BELIEVE IS THE, WILL BE CARRIED VIA RECORD, UH, OR MAYBE EVEN AS LONG AS SOMEONE'S BEEN IN OFFICE.

SO YOU, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK THAT UP, NUMBER ONE.

BUT I SEE THIS AS BEING A, SOMETHING WE ARE REQUIRING OF AN INDIVIDUAL OR A BUSINESS.

SO IF SOMEONE HAS MADE A CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION, A RESIDENT, AND THEN A RESIDENT'S APPLYING FOR A VARIANCE THAT ULTIMATELY COMES TO A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEY FORGET TO DISCLOSE THAT, OR DON'T, I MEAN, THERE'S NO FORM FOR THEM TO DISCLOSE IT.

I GUESS THIS YOU'RE PROPOSING, WE CREATE ONE, BUT IF THEY DIDN'T, THEN WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THEY WOULD BE COMMITTING AN ETHICS VIOLATION BY NOT DISCLOSING THAT.

UH, IN WHICH CASE, UH, THERE WOULD BE AN ETHICS COMPLAINT THAT WOULD BE MADE AND A CO UH, THE COMMITTEE WOULD BE COMPELLED TO FIND A, UH, TO RULE THAT SUCH A, SUCH A INDIVIDUAL OR BUSINESS DID NOT DISCLOSE MAKING THAT CONTRIBUTION TO US, EVEN THOUGH THOSE FORMS ARE ALREADY PUBLIC, UH, AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

SO TO ME, THERE'S A CONFLICT THERE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO TELL INDIVIDUALS, UH, WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE MADE A, UH, REMEMBER HAVING MADE A CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION, THEY PROBABLY WOULD.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE BEFORE SOMEONE DISCLOSE, SUBMIT TO THE CITY SECRETARY GETS WHAT FORWARDED TO COUNCIL EVERY TIME.

ONE OF EVERY TIME, UH, THAT HAPPENS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S A REDUNDANCY BECAUSE IF THEY MAKE A POLITICAL CONTRIBUTION THAT'S IMMEDIATELY PUT, OR AS IT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LAW FOR THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS TO

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BE DISCLOSED, THEY'RE BEING DISCLOSED, SUBMITTED TO THE CITY SECRETARY.

AND WE ARE GOING TO THE STEP OF EVEN SAYING THAT THOSE ARE ALL PUBLISHED ON THE, UH, THE INTERNET FOR ANYONE TO SEE.

SO AT, IS THERE, UH, I MEAN, AT SOME POINT WE'RE THE ONES MAKING THE VOTES.

IT'S ALL PUBLIC, IT'S ALL TRANSPARENT IN THAT WAY.

UH, I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT TRYING TO PUT THAT ON INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE SHOULD GO.

BUT IT, IT ALREADY IS FOR CONTRACTS.

SO WE WOULD JUST BE EXPANDING IT TO MORE, I GUESS IS MY, AND IT WOULD JUST COVER EVERYTHING.

UM, WHICH IS PROBABLY ANOTHER GOOD REASON TO CREATE SOME KIND OF CHECKS AND BALANCES BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE, I ALREADY LOOK UP ENOUGH AND WHEN I DO MY AGENDA, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO GO BACK AND LOOK UP EVEN MORE STUFF.

AND SO IF THAT WAS, WELL, BUT THAT'S YOUR, THAT, THAT IS YOUR, THAT IS THE JOB.

IT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION.

SO YOU KEEP MAKING IT MORE TRANSPARENT.

ARE YOU SAYING IT HAS TO BE PUT IN ANY BACKUP MATERIAL ON AN AGENDA LETTER? WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW DO WE CURRENTLY USE THIS? I WOULD NEED TO DEFER TO STAFF, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN IN THE EPIC ORDINANCE SINCE IT WAS CREATED.

AND SO MY QUESTION IS, I'M NOT MAKING ANYTHING NEW.

I'M TRYING TO BROADEN IT TO MAKE IT, UH, MORE TRANSPARENT FOR EVERYBODY.

SO HOW, HOWEVER THEY CURRENTLY DO IT IS HOW THEY SH EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, ANYONE THAT APPLIES, WHO SHOULD DO IT? DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW WE DO THIS? IS IT EVEN BEING DONE RIGHT NOW? I I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? SURE.

UM, SO SECTION TWO DASH 2 22 PERSON SEEKING DISCRETIONARY CONTRACTS.

IT STATES, UH, UNDER POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS, SECTION A, ANY INDIVIDUAL OR BUSINESS ENTITY SEEKING A DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT FROM THE CITY MUST DISCLOSE IN CONNECTION WITH A PROPOSAL FOR DISCRETIONARY CONTRACT, ALL POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS TOTALING A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR MORE WITHIN THE PREVIOUS 24 MONTHS, MADE DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY TO ANY CURRENT OR FORMER MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL, ANY CANDIDATE FOR CITY COUNCIL OR TO ANY POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE MEMBER.

SO I GUESS IT ONLY GOES BACK TWO YEARS.

IT'S NOT AS STRINGENT AS I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT IT WAS.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CASE WHERE THAT'S COME UP.

AND IF PERVEZ IS ON THE LINE, HE MIGHT HAVE BETTER INFORMATION THAN I DO.

BUT I NEVER REMEMBER THAT BEING A PART OF DISCUSSION ALREADY A .

OKAY.

SO IN THE INTEREST OF MOVING US THROUGH THIS ITEM, I THINK WE'RE, UH, PAST THE ONE HOUR MARK ON IT AT THIS POINT.

CAN I MAKE SOME, UH, MOTIONS ON THINGS THAT I WANT TO TAKE VOTES ON AND THEN IF OTHERS WANT TO AS WELL AND THEN TRY TO MOVE IT FORWARD? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE, UH, UH, TO AMEND, UH, THE ORDINANCE, UH, THAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND IN THE SECTIONS, UH, RELATED TO COUNSEL, UH, UH, RECOMMENDING OR RECOMMENDED OR RECOMMEND OR RECOMMEND THAT WE CHANGE THAT TO NOMINATING, NOMINATE OR NOMINATE AS, UH, AS IS, UM, APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF OUR CONVERSATION.

AND HAVE THAT BROUGHT BACK FOR A SECOND READING.

SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND IN BY COUNCILOR TOBIAS, IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALLS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO PROPOSE? CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO KEEP IN ON PAGE ONE.

THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY MAY ITSELF BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

I'LL SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION BY COUNCIL MAYOR FLORES KALE, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, THAT WE, UH, LEAVE IN THE STRIKE THROUGH ON THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY.

MAY ITSELF BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? WE DON'T LEAVE IN THE STRIKE.

WE DON'T LEAVE IN THE STRIKE THROUGH.

WE JUST THE VERBIAGE.

RIGHT.

LEAVE IT, LEAVE IT THE WAY THAT IT WAS, AS OPPOSED TO THAT, IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? UM, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THEM TO REMOVE THAT OUT.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, UH, THE, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION TO FI MAKE FINDINGS BASED ON APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY, UH, AS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT RATHER FOLLOW THE ACTUAL RULES FOR WHAT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, UH, IS.

THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME AS TO WHY THEY STRUCK THAT OUT.

SO, UH, I'M A FAN OF IT.

THAT WAS JUST MY OPINIONS.

ANY OTHER OPINIONS ON IT? CUSTOMER FORCE CO.

YEAH.

MY ONLY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE SINCE NOW IT STATES THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE EVIDENCE.

IT'S NOT GONNA BE JUST A FREE WILLY-NILLY, UH, THE, YOU CAN'T JUST WRITE, UM, A COMPLAINT BASED OFF THE APPEARANCE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE APPEARANCE PLUS EVIDENCE.

YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, EVIDENCE TO SUBMIT.

BUT THIS IS SAYING THAT THE, THE COMMITTEE, UH, MAY FIND THAT THE APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY IN AND OF ITSELF CAN

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BE A CONFLICT OF ENTRANCE.

UH, WHICH SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE IT'S, IS SAYING THEY CAN IGNORE THE EVIDENCE.

UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THROUGH THE YEARS THAT APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY IS THE GO-TO ANSWER FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE ETHICS COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, MADE.

SO THE COMMI COMMISSION HAS ROUTINELY STRUCK DOWN COMPLAINTS THAT WERE MADE WHEN THE ONLY THING THAT REMAINED IN THE DELIBERATION WAS AN APPEARANCE, UH, CONTRARY TO THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

SO TO ME, THE COMMISSION IS STRIKING THIS OUT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EVERY RULING THEY'VE MADE FOR SIX, UH, YEARS OR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE, WHICH IS THAT THEY REQUIRE EVIDENCE TO MAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONVICTING OR RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATIONS OF, UH, PUNIT PUNITIVE ACTION, UH, FROM THEIR BOARD.

SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION AS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

UH, YEAH.

SO, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT HISTORY OF HOW FAR BACK IT'S BEEN USED OR MISUSED.

SO FOR ME, BEING A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, I WANNA SEE IT STRONG.

I JUST WANT IT TO HAVE SOME TEETH IN IT.

AND WE DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF THE APPEARANCE BECAUSE WE ARE IN PUBLIC.

SO IF IT'S THERE, AND LIKE YVONNE MENTIONED, NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME EVIDENCE, I THINK THAT THIS, THIS IS A GOOD MEDIUM.

UM, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION SINCE I'M A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER TO SEE.

I DON'T WANNA SEE A WATER DOWN ETHICS, UM, POLICY, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WATERS IT DOWN.

I, I THINK IT DE POLITICIZES IT BECAUSE ASKING A COMMISSION TO MAKE A RULING BASED ON AN APPEARANCE CLAIM IS, IS, IS A POLITICAL, UH, MANEUVER THAT'S BEEN BEEN USED.

SO I WOULD PREFER FOR THAT NOT TO BE A POLITICAL MANEUVER, BUT TO TELL THE COMMISSION THAT WE WANT THEM TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND RULE BASED ON THAT.

I WILL CHANGE IF, IF, IF I SEE THAT OCCURRING.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE SEEING IT.

SO, BUT IF IT IS BEING MISUSED AS A POLITICAL OKAY, MANEUVER, I'M WELCOME TO CHANGE ROLL CALL.

VOTE, UH, UH, A YES VOTE, UH, LEAVES THE RECOMMENDATION OF A STRIKE THROUGH A NO VOTE.

UH, AFFIRMS THE, UH, COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OF TAKING THAT OUT.

BRADSHAW.

NAY? NO.

OH, SORRY.

I'M JUST GETTING CALLED FIRST.

SORRY.

TOBIAS.

NAY.

MITCHELL.

NAY FLORES.

KALE.

YES.

ZUNIGA? YES.

HEISER, NAY, PARSLEY? NAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION FAILS.

FIVE TWO.

ANY OTHER MOTIONS ON AMENDMENTS? OH, YES.

ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27 AS AMENDED SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIS.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? THIS IS TO COME BACK, CORRECT? YEAH.

WE WILL COME BACK FOR SECOND READING.

UH, ALL OF IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SECOND, UH, SEVEN TO ZERO, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

UH, SO I WILL OBJECT AND WE WILL TO MAKE SURE THIS COMES BACK AND GIVES US US ANOTHER LOOK, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS UNANIMOUS.

SO THIS WILL COME BACK FOR SECOND READING.

THANK YOU.

ALL

[28.  

Authorize award and execution of a Purchase Order to OASIS WATERPLAYGROUNDS, INC., Houston, Texas, in amount not to exceed $500,000.00 for the design and construction of a Splashpad and other associated structures and equipment as included in the attached proposal at the City's Gregg-Clarke Park. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation

 

Parks and Recreation Board voted 5-0 to recommend approval. 

]

RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28, AUTHORIZED AWARD AND EXECUTION OF AOR TO OASIS, UH, WATER PLAYGROUNDS INC.

HOUSTON, TEXAS, IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 500,000 FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A SPLASH PAD.

UH, AND OTHER ASSOCIATED STRUCTURES AND EQUIPMENT AS INCLUDED IN THE ATTACHED PROPOSAL AT THE CITY'S GREG CLARK PARK PARKS AND REC BOARD.

VOTED FIVE OH TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

UH, MS. ESPINOZA.

HI MARIA ESPINOZA PARKS INTEGRATION DIRECTOR.

UH, WE ARE, YEAH, BACK FOR ANOTHER PARK IMPROVEMENT AT GREG CLARK PARK.

UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE APPROVED PROJECTS AS PART OF THE PAR, UH, 2020 BOND.

UM, THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE SPLASH PAD AT GREG CLARK PARK.

WE DID COMPLETE THE RFP PROCESS AND WE RECEIVED FIVE BIDS.

THE PARKS DECORATION BOARD AND STAFF HAVE REVIEWED ALL BIDS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF OASIS WATER PLAYGROUNDS.

UM, AFTER THE APPROVAL AND THE SELECTION OF THE VENDOR TAKES PLACE, THEY WILL TAKE PART IN TWO PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS IN WHICH THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE SPLASH PAD WILL BE, UM, CONSIDERED.

IT WILL TAKE ABOUT 10 WEEKS FOR, UH, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE SPLASH PAD.

AND JUST TO NOTE THAT SINCE THIS IS PART OF ONE OF THE APPROVED PROJECTS FOR THE 2020 BOND, THE COUNTY WILL PAY HALF OF THE FUNDS.

SO 250,000 WILL BE MATCHED BY THE COUNTY.

UM, TARA MENON FROM OASIS WATER PLAYGROUNDS IS ON THE PHONE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I CAN ALSO SHOW YOU A COUPLE PHOTOS OF WHAT COULD GO THERE.

LET'S SEE.

SEE THIS RIGHT HERE? MAYBE NOT.

UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHILE THIS LOADS

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QUESTION HERE? HE, HE STEPPED UP, WE DON'T HAVE TO.

MARIANA RIGHT OFF THE BAT, PARKS VOTED FIVE ZERO.

YES.

CORRECT.

WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR THE LOCATION OF A SPLASH PAD ACROSS THE SWIMMING POOL? SO WHEN WE, WHEN STAFF, UM, AND PARK BOARD DISCUSSED THE OVERALL PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR RED CLARK PARK, WE PLAN TO PUT THE SKATE PARK, UH, AND A SPLASH PAD.

AND SO JUST LOOKING AT THE SPACE THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR BOTH BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR EACH AMENITY, WE FELT THAT THE SPLASH PAD WOULD BE BEST NEAR THE POOL SO THAT THE SKATE PARK COULD GO BETWEEN THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THE TENNIS COURT.

OKAY.

SO ON THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, HAVE A WE TO DISCUSS ABOUT IMPROVING INSIDE THIS SWIMMING POOL TO ADD SPLASH PAD F AMENITIES WITHIN INSIDE THE SWIMMING POOL? YEAH, WE, UM, IN THIS YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR, WE DO HAVE MONEY BUDGETED FOR POOL IMPROVEMENTS.

HOWEVER, WE DECIDED TO TAKE OUT THE SPLASH FEATURE AND PUT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF AMENITY LIKE ANO A NEW SLIDE OR A CLIMBING WALL, UM, OR ONE OF THE BIG INFLATABLES SINCE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPLASH PAD, WHICH HAS MORE THAN JUST ONE FEATURE.

CUZ THE EXISTING SPLASH PAD FEATURE THAT WAS AT THE POOL WAS JUST LIKE ONE LITTLE STICK.

MM-HMM.

THAT KIND OF WENT OUT.

SO THIS PART WILL BE, WILL BRING MORE THAN ONE FEATURE.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

AND MY LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, OBVIOUSLY MS. GRIFFITH CAME UP, SHE LIVES IN THE STEEPLE CHASE AREA.

YES.

THEY DO HAVE FIVE NEIGHBORING AREAS OUT THERE.

WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ACTUALLY BRINGING ONE OF THESE TO EAST SIDE ON THAT PARK AREA TO BE ABLE TO USE, WHAT WOULD BE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED TO BRING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS? CUZ THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT, WHEN I HAD A LONG ABOUT AN HOUR DISCUSSION WITH ANOTHER RESIDENT, THAT WAS VERY KIND OF ALL RIGHT, CUZ AGAIN, IT'S LIKE, WOW, YOU GOT A ASH PAVILION OVER THERE, NOW Y'ALL MILLION DOLLAR SKATE PARK.

NOW Y'ALL BRINGING ANOTHER SPLASH PAD ACROSS FROM THE SWIM POOL AND YOU'VE GOT A BASKETBALL COURTS.

AND OVER HERE IN EAST KYLE, WE HAVE NOTHING.

WE HAVE A DOG PARK FULL OF ANN HILLS.

OKAY.

SO HEARING THAT, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WELL LET'S SEE WHAT THE MASTER PLAN WOULD BE FOR AREAS LIKE STEEPLECHASE, WHAT WOULD BE THE FUNDING THAT COULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING SIMILAR LIKE THAT TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS? CUZ AGAIN, THERE'S FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA, RIGHT? AND YOU HAVE THE DISC GOLF, YOU HAVE THE BASKETBALL, BUT PRETTY MUCH THAT'S IT.

AND IT IS A PRETTY MUCH DESERT IN A SENSE THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE ACROSS THE BRIDGE OR COME TO THE WEST SIDE TO BE ABLE JUST TO HAVE THESE AMENITIES NOW.

SO WHAT WOULD BE THE MASTER PLAN FOR BRINGING SOME KIND OF AMENITY LIKE THAT, INCLUDING THE CROSSFIT? CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT IN A NEGATIVE SPIN SAYING THAT AGAIN, EAST VERSUS WEST.

CUZ AGAIN, THEY'RE FEELING THAT IS TO THEM IT'S ANOTHER PUNCH IN THE GUT THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WEST SIDE GETTING ANOTHER COOL AMENITY.

UM, AND SO WHAT CAN WE DO LOGISTICALLY IN CON IN, IN A MORE POSITIVE WAY TO MAYBE LOOK AT THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN, IN THAT AREA? SO CURRENTLY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE DO HAVE PARK IMPROVEMENT MONEY THAT WAS APPROVED FOR EVERY PARK.

SO IT'S, UM, THAT BASICALLY COVERS NEW SIGNAGE AT ALL THE PARKS, INCLUDING STAPLE CHASE WATER, LEAF LAKE HELE, AS WELL AS GREG CLARK PARK.

UM, WE AT STAPLE CHASE ARE DOING THE BASKETBALL COURT RENOVATIONS, FIXING THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.

UH, WE HAVE MONEY BUDGET IN THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR BALL FIELD LIGHT IMPROVEMENTS.

WE HAVE MONEY BUDGETED FOR BALL FIELD IMPROVEMENTS.

SO WE'LL BE DOING THE SOCCER FIELDS AND THE, UH, SOFTBALL BASEBALL FIELDS AT THE PARK.

UM, AND THEN ALSO DISC GOLF, UM, THE DISC GOLF COURSE IMPROVEMENTS AND LOOKING AT IRRIGATION FOR THE DOG PARK.

SO THAT'S ALL BUDGETED IN THIS YEAR'S MONEY.

SO LOOKING AHEAD TO LIKE BIGGER AMENITIES THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK THROUGH THE PARK BOARD AND STAFF ON NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET REQUESTS.

UM, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, WE ALSO HAVE SOME INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND PIECES COMING TO LAKE HIGH THIS YEAR THAT WERE BUDGETED.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE PARK, NEW PARK RESTROOMS COMING TO STAPLE CHASE PARK THIS YEAR, LAKE HIGH PARK AND WATER RELIEF PARK.

SO WE HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY FUNDED IN THIS SERIES BUDGET, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA BE ADD AMENITIES LIKE A SPLASH PAD AND THAT IS PART OF TOWN, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AND DISCUSS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AS FAR AS THE FUNDING, CUZ I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO WHERE WE, IF IF THIS IS 500,000, I THINK THERE'S A WAY THAT I KNOW OF, AND I'D HAVE TO GIVE A STAFF ON THIS, THAT THE FUNDING MONEY COULD ALREADY BE THERE.

SO, BUT I'LL DISCUSS THAT.

I THINK I KNOW WHERE THE 500 YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS.

YES, SIR.

WHICH IS INTERESTING.

I JUST, I DO WANT TO RE REMIND.

THIS IS A PART OF THE 2020, UH, GENERAL OBLIGATION PARKS BOND WHERE WE RECEIVED 10 MILLION.

THE COUNTY ALSO APPROPRIATED 10 MILLION, AND OF THAT 2 MILLION IS, SO THAT'S 1 MILLION FROM THE CITY, 1 MILLION

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FROM THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GREG CLARK PARKS, BUT 4 MILLION IS GOING TO THE EAST SIDE, EAST TRAIL AND IMPROVEMENT.

MM-HMM.

.

SO THE, THE ACTUAL MATCHING DOLLARS BETWEEN THE GREG CLARK PARK AND THE ACTUAL IN, IN RIGHT IN THE AREA OF STAPLE CHASE MM-HMM.

, IT'S JUST, IT'S FOR A MAJOR TRAIL IMPROVEMENT MM-HMM.

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SO IT'S A DIFFERENT AMENITY, BUT IT IS TWICE THE FUNDING COMPARED TO YEAH.

THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS NOT TO SPEAK TO FOLKS' PERCEPTION, BUT I JUST DID WANNA REMIND THAT.

AND AGAIN, IT'S THE PERCEPTION.

I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THE PERCEPTION THAT IS PERCEIVED TO WHERE I HAVE TO DO MY BEST TO LET THEM KNOW THAT YES, THE FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN STEEPLECHASE AND THAT AREA, IT IS AN OLDER, IN A MORE TRADITIONAL AND LEGACY PARK WITH OAK TREES AND EVERYTHING.

UH, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S HAVING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS KNOW, I KNOW THEY'RE GETTING ANOTHER AMENITY ON THE WEST SIDE AND I KNOW THAT WE SEE THAT A LOT, BUT WE, WE ARE DOING OUR BEST.

BUT YES, MR. MITCHELL, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER ON THE FUNDING CUSTOMER PARTIALLY.

SO IS THERE ANY ROOM AVAILABLE IN STEEPLECHASE FOR US TO TRY TO MAKE THIS SPLASH PAD OVER THERE? SO TO MOVE THE SPLASH PAD TO STEEPLECHASE, I MEAN, THERE'S ROOM AT STEEPLECHASE, BUT THE, UM, BOND LANGUAGE FOR THE SPECIFIC, UM, FUNDING WAS FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS AT GREG CLARK PARK.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE BOND LANGUAGE SAID? YES, MA'AM.

PERFECT.

AND THEN SECOND, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALWAYS SHOW BITS, IT REALLY MAKES THINGS A LOT EASIER.

I AM SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE PARK, SO THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA ACTUALLY ASK, SAY THAT I'M, I'M SORRY, JUST A COMMENT THAT IT, THE, UM, THE INSIDE VERSUS OUTSIDE, TYPICALLY WE CHARGE LIKE A COUPLE BUCKS TO GET INTO THE, THE ACTUAL POOL AREA.

WELL THIS, THIS WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, SO THE SPLASH PAD WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE WITHOUT THAT HAS BEEN THE DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

CUSTOMERS GO THROUGH THE FEE SCHEDULE, UH, TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST BEING IN REGARDS TO STEEPLECHASE, YOU HAD SAID THAT THERE IS SPACE AT THAT PARK TO ACCOMMODATE A SPLASH PAD.

IS THERE, IS THE SPACE AVAILABLE THE SAME AS IT IS AT GREG CLARK PARK? BOTH PARKS HAVE AVAILABLE SPACE FOR A SPLASH PAD.

SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST IN ORDER TO A SPECIFIC NUMBER BECAUSE OF LIKE PARK AVAILABILITY IN TERMS OF THE LANDSCAPE? IF IT'S NOT THE SAME IN TERMS OF SIZING AS WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR LIKE GREG CLARK PARK, IT'S HARDER TO KNOW WHAT THE INVESTMENT MIGHT BE.

IF WE WERE TO WANT TO DO SOMETHING OVER AT STEVE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE SHE'S BUDGET REQUEST, SHOULD A SPLASH PAD AT STAPLE CHASE PARK BE A RECOMMENDATION? WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE THAT ESTIMATION.

OKAY.

I I WOULD RECOMMEND EVEN THAT WE GO QUICKER IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL REALLY WANTS TO LOOK INTO.

OKAY.

UH, AND WELL WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING A VISIONING WORKSHOP COMING RIGHT UP, AND THAT'LL GIVE US MORE TIME TO DISCUSS IT IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL OF OUR BUDGET.

OTHER BUDGETED PRIORITIES, UH, IF THERE'S ROOM IN THE BUDGET, WHICH IS WHAT CUSTOMER TOBIAS HAS, UH, MENTIONED, HE, HE'S GOT HIS EYES SET ON SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION FOR US TO AMEND OUR BUDGET.

MM-HMM.

, UH, AND, UH, IMMEDIATELY GREEN LIGHT THE DESIGN ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO WE CAN, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS CUSTOMERS SOON TO GO.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

EVERYBODY HERE SEEMS TO BE, UH, IN FAVOR OF ANOTHER SPLASH PAD.

UH, RECREATE THIS SOMEWHERE AT STAPLE CHASE, MAYBE ALSO BRING IN A MINI GOLF, UM, PUCK GOLF, SOME AMENITY, BUT, UM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THE KIDS CAN DEFINITELY ENJOY.

UH, AND ANOTHER CLARIFYING QU QUESTION, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS 500,000 IS OUR PORTION.

SO THE ACTUAL BUDGET IS A MILLION, UH, HUNDRED, 250,000, UM, IS OUR PORTION AND SERIAL MATCH TWO 50.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN HEISER? YEAH.

IN, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER MOCKUPS THAT WAS UP ON THE SCREEN, UP ON MY SCREEN.

THESE ARE JUST IDEAS.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

, UH, OKAY.

SO IN THIS ONE HERE, THERE ARE, THERE IS SHADE OVER THE PICNIC TABLES MM-HMM.

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UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD MOST FREQUENTLY WHILE CAMPAIGNING IS THAT, UM, PARENTS DON'T WANT TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO THE PARK WHERE THERE'S NO SHADE IN THE DEAD OF SUMMER, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

UM, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO LOOK INTO WHAT IT WOULD COST TO PUT UP A CANOPY, UH, OVER THE SPLASH BED? I MEAN, JUST SPEAKING AS A PARENT, I'D RATHER SIT AND BURN IN THE SUN SITTING AT THE PICNIC TABLE THAN TO, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

THAN TO HAVE THE KIDS.

WE WILL HAVE TWO, UM, COMMUNITY INPUT MEETINGS FOR THE DESIGN OF THE SPLASH PAD.

SO BE SURE TO ADD THE STRAIGHT STRUCTURE OVER THE SPLASH PAD AS ONE OF THE INPUT IDEAS.

THANK YOU.

ZUNIGA.

SO SORRY MARIA, BUT JUST TO GET BACK TO THE DECISION, I KNOW THIS IS WHAT DONE YEARS AGO.

WHAT WAS THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE GREG CLARK PART

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TO GET THE SPLASH PAD? LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT FACTORED INTO THAT DECISION OVER SAY WATER LEAF AND STEEP CHASE OR, UM, LAKE KYLE? I GUESS, LIKE, I CANNOT COMPLETELY ANSWER THAT WITH CERTAINTY.

UM, BUT THERE WAS AN OVERALL GREG CLARK PARK MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES IMPROVEMENTS TO ASH PAVILION, ASH PAVILION'S, GU, NEW FLOOR IRRIGATION, WHICH JUST GOT COMPLETED AT, UH, THE BALL FIELDS IN THE SOCCER FIELDS.

UM, AND THEN THE SPLASH PAD IN THE SKATE PARK.

BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE HISTORY AS TO WHY GREG CLARK PARK WAS CHOSEN.

IT WAS A, THE, THE ANSWER IS IT WAS A FOR ENTERTAINMENT, WELL, IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WITH THE COUNTY, UH, GETTING THE, MAKING SURE THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ON BOARD BECAUSE THE $10 MILLION THAT WE PUT UP TO THE VOTERS, WHICH WAS APPROVED, WAS ALSO MATCHED BY THE PARKS AND OPEN, UH, POZAC PARKS AND OPEN SPACES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, FOR THE COUNTY.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS THAT TOOK PLACE BACK IN 2019, 2020, UH, REGARDING THE ALLOCATION OF THOSE RESOURCES.

AND WE KEPT IT AT THAT TIME AT THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL.

UH, AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS, UH, UH, UH, PUT TOGETHER WAS BASICALLY, UH, THAT THERE WOULD BE A RECREATIONAL SPORTS PLEX, WHICH WOULD BE 7 MILLION IN 7 MILLION IN THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT ON THE VERY NORTH END OF TOWN, THERE WOULD BE 1 MILLION AND 1 MILLION FOR GREG CLARK PARK.

AND THE MAIN FEATURE THERE WAS THE SKATE PARK, BUT WE LEFT THE LANGUAGE SUCH THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, BASICALLY, UH, TOTAL OF 2 MILLION FOR GREG CLARK PARK.

AND THEN IN THAT BOND PROPOSITION, 4 MILLION WAS FOR THE EAST SIDE, 2 MILLION FROM THE CITY OR FOR THE EAST SIDE TRAIL SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS.

SO 2 MILLION FROM THE CITY AND 2 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY THERE AS WELL.

SO THAT WAS BASICALLY THE STRUCTURE.

SO WITHIN TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT CONCRETE VERSUS, UH, UH, UH, MORE OF A PERIAL, PERMEABLE, CRUSHED GRANITE, HOW WIDE IT SHOULD BE, THE EXACT COURSE OF IT.

ALL OF THAT'S STILL WITHIN OUR DISCRETION TO DETERMINE AS WE PUT THE PROGRAMS IN PLACE.

BUT THE GENERAL BUCKETS WERE DECIDED BACK THEN, AND THAT WAS JUST THE DIS THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE COUNCIL.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE, IT HAS GOT A LOT OF GREAT VARIETY AND I LOVE IT.

I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY VERY NICE PARK.

IT'S GOT THE PAVILION PARK, SO I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT WAS THE IDEA TO GET THE MOST VARIETY.

SO I KNOW Y'ALL HAD PIE IN THE SKY OUT THERE.

SO YEAH.

AND THEN RECENT CIP P PROJECTS FOR STEEPLECHASE HAVE BEEN THE BIG OVER, UH, THE AWNING, OVER THE PLAY SCAPES, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ADDED.

THE DOG PARK HAS BEEN ADDED RECENTLY.

NOT A PART OF ANY BONDS, BUT JUST A PART OF OUR CIPS AND THE IRRIGATION IS SOMETHING I'M PARTICULARLY HAPPY TO SEE US ADDING, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A PET PEEVE OF MINE THAT STEEPLECHASE HAD TREES PLANTED AND LANDSCAPING PUT IN WITHOUT IRRIGATION.

SO WE'RE HAVING TO GO OUT AND WATER BY HAND IN ORDER TO KEEP THOSE TREES ALIVE.

AND THEN ALL AS WELL AS THE FIELD MAINTENANCE COULD REALLY, YOU KNOW, BE IMPROVED.

AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S BEING IMPROVED.

ALSO, I THINK THAT WAS THE MAIN COMPLAINT WAS NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH AMENITIES ON AT STEEPLECHASE, BUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WE'RE NOT MAINTAINING IT VERY WELL.

COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW.

SORRY MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28 SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.

IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION CUSTOMER FLOOR SCALE? NO, MY QUESTION ONLY HAD TO DO, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE GONNA REPLACE, OR YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING TO ASH PAVILION FLOORS.

CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING? BECAUSE I THINK THOSE FLOORS ARE FAIRLY NEW.

YEAH.

SO, UM, IN OREGON WITH THE KYLE HOCKEY ASSOCIATION THAT RUN THE HOCKEY LEAGUES OUT AT THE PARK, UM, BASED OFF THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND ALSO SPEAKING WITH PARK BOARD, WE, UM, THEY NEED MORE OF A FRIENDLIER FLOOR FOR THE HOCKEY PROGRAM.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WANNA DO AT ASH PAVILION, SUCH AS WE GOT THE SCOREBOARD WITH THE PENALTY BOX, WHICH IS A DONATION.

UM, JUST DIFFERENT AMENITIES OUT THERE.

THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE WANT WAS A ASH FLOOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? S IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

NEXT UP AGENDA

[29.  Discussion and possible action regarding enacting a temporary moratorium on accepting, authorizing and approving new development in order to protect critical infrastructure, to include, but not limited to, water, wastewater and transportation and to allow for the City to address/assess the rapid current and future growth of the City. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]

I 29.

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING ENACTING A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON ACCEPTING, AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING NEW DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER TO PROTECT CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER, WASTE, WATER AND TRANSPORTATION.

AND TO ALLOW FOR THE CITY TO ADDRESS SLASH ASSESS THE RAPID CURRENT AND FUTURE GROWTH OF THE CITY.

THIS COMES FROM FLORES KALE'S ITEM.

I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE A REQUEST FROM STAFF TO HAVE SOME PORTION OF THIS CONVERSATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT, UH, UM, IF THERE'S NOT ONE AT THIS POINT, UM, WE CAN GO WITH THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I, I THINK WE GO AT THE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL DISCUSS IF WE NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AFTERWARDS.

CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO IF YOU, I COULD HAVE YOU HAVE THEM GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, I WANNA PREFACE THIS DISCUSSION WITH THE FACT THAT I AM NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.

TO THE CONTRARY, I AM PRO RESPONSIBLE GROWTH.

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I WANNA SEE KYLE CONTINUE TO PROSPER WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN WAYS THAT BENEFIT BOTH THE DEVELOPERS AND THE RESIDENTS.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS CURRENT, JUST ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE, IF WE COLLECTIVELY DECIDE ON A DATE.

SO, UM, MORATORIUMS ARE GOVERNED BY LO GOVERNED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

CODE TWO 12 SUBSECTION E I WILL BE DISCUSSING JUSTIFICATIONS FOR MORATORIUM, WHICH ARE DESCRIBED IN SECTION TWO, 12.135.

SHORTAGE OF ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES.

ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES ARE DEFINED IN THE CODE AS WATER, SEWER, OR STORM DRAINAGE FACILITIES OR STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROVIDED BY A MUNICIPALITY OR PRIVATE UTILITY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

OVER THE LAST YEAR, KYLE STRUGGLED TO KEEP UP WITH ITS RAPID GROWTH.

THE FOLLOWING ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW KYLE DEMONSTRATES A NEED TO PREVENT A SHORTAGE OF ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES.

IN NOVEMBER 20, 20, 22, SO LAST MONTH, THE CITY PLACED AND THE VOTERS APPROVED A 294 MILLION BOND ELECTION.

THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR THIS BOND IN HIGH PROJECT AMOUNT SHOWS A DESPERATE NEED FOR STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

ON DECEMBER 6TH, 2022, DUE TO A WATER SHORTAGE, THE CITY OF KYLE CITY COUNCIL VOTED ON AND APPROVED AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS FOR WATER SHARING.

THIS WATER SHORTAGE COST KYLE TAXPAYERS $7,745 PER MONTH FOR THE MONTHS OF OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER, 2022.

ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE CITY OF KYLE IS IN THE PROCESS OF PURSUING AN AMENDMENT TO DISCHARGE PERMIT FOR THE CITY'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO INCREASE ALLOWABLE WASTEWATER FLOWS THAT CAN BE TREATED AND DISCHARGED FROM 4.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

THEY CALL THOSE N GDS AVERAGE DAILY FLOW A D F, UM, TO 9 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AVERAGE DAILY FLOW WITH THE FINAL LIMIT OF 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AVERAGE DAILY FLOW CORRESPONDING TO THE CITY'S GROWTH PROJECTIONS.

WITH THIS GROWTH, THE CITY HAS YET TO BRING THE NEXT EXPANSION PHASE TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL FOR US TO BEGIN THE EXPANSION PROCESS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT DO THOSE WASTEWATER NUMBERS THAT I JUST STATED, WHAT DO THEY MEAN FOR KYLE? THIS CHART SHOWS THE, SHOWS THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.

THE GREEN REPRESENTS KYLE'S CURRENT OUTPUT OF 4.5 M G D MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF WASTEWATER INTO PLUM CREEK.

THE BLUE IS OUR AMENDED REQUEST OF 9 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

THE BLACK COLUMN IS PLUM CREEK'S MAX CAPACITY OF 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, AND THE RED IS A CITY'S FUTURE WASTEWATER NEED OF 24 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY WHEN THE CITY IS BUILT OUT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, I AM AWARE OF THE NEGATIVE CONNOTATION OF ENACTING A MORATORIUM, BUT THERE ARE MANY PROS TO PLACING A TEMPORARY HOLD ON DEVELOPMENT BY PLACING TEMPORARY HOLD ON DEVELOPMENT.

IT WILL ALLOW STAFF AND COUNCIL TO CREATE A PLAN FOR OUR ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES BY PLACING A MORE, A TEMPORARY HOLD ON DEVELOPMENT.

IT WILL BE EASIER FOR THE CITY TO FOCUS ON AND TIMELY PROCESS CURRENT PERMITS AND APPLICATIONS WITHOUT THE STRESS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT.

FINALLY, A MORATORIUM IS ONLY TEMPORARY AND CAN BE AS SHORT AS WE MAKE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS FOR COUNCIL TO DISCUSS GIVING OUR CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW OUR STAFF AND EACH AND EACH, UM, OTHER TO CREATE A SOLID PLAN FOR OUR WATER WASTEWATER AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS IN ORDER TO BENEFIT THE FUTURE OF KYLE'S RESIDENTS, DEVELOPERS, AND OUR ESSENTIAL PUBLIC FACILITIES.

LET'S DISCUSS RESPONSIBLE GROWTH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER FORK.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, UH, PROPOSAL? COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS? OKAY, SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A MORATORIUM ON, ON A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH BEGIN AT IN.

YES.

SO, UM, BECAUSE WASN'T IT, LAST COUNCIL MEETING, YOU BROUGHT A RECONSIDER TO REZONE A REQUEST FOR WOODMERE PARK, WHICH IS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS CORRECT.

SO FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT'S ALREADY PROVED I UNDERSTAND, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT, WOULD THAT BE ALREADY WHAT WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? YES.

AND I THINK THERE'S OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, I THINK EAST OF KYLE THAT ARE ALSO TRYING TO GET FINAL APPROVALS ON.

SO ARE WE, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE HALT ALL DEVELOPMENT GOING FORWARD

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DUE TO THE LACK OF RESOURCE OF THE WATER, UH, WATER WASTEWATER, STREET IMPROVEMENTS? OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT WHAT'S CURRENT.

SO WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

OKAY.

IT WOULD BE ANYBODY THAT IS REQUESTING OR, YOU KNOW, UH, GROWTH FOR THE FIRST TIME.

IT WOULDN'T BE ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT ALREADY HAS PERMISSION OR IS ALREADY UNDER THE PROCESS OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY.

AND IT HA AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE WATER, CORRECT? NO, THE, THE WATER.

I THINK STREETS ARE AN ISSUE TOO.

OKAY.

THE WASTEWATER WAS, UH, WAS A MAJOR CONCERN OF MINE THOUGH, CUZ THERE'S NO PLAN FOR OUR FUTURE WASTEWATER OUTPUT OTHER THAN PLUM CREEK.

YEAH.

WATER, YOU KNOW, CAUSE OUR SOURCE OF WATER, WHERE WE GET IT FROM, IS FROM THE SKY.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE, UH, UH, FIVE YEAR DROUGHT, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THIS AREA, IT DOES MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR WATER TO, FOR CITIES TO BE ABLE TO PASS FROM ONE CITY TO ANOTHER.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT.

UM, THE, THE OTHER THING WOULD LOOK AT IS, WAS THE WATER SITUATION.

UM, I JUST HAD IT IN MY HEAD.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WATER ITSELF AND IN THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, UH, TO CUT BACK ON, REALLY, I'M LOOKING FOR A PLAN, IF I'M GONNA BE HONEST.

I JUST WANT THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP AND I, I KNEW THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

UM, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I, I'M GONNA BE TOLD THAT THERE IS A PLAN.

I'M GONNA BE TOLD THAT IT'S OKAY.

I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT I KNOW I'VE HAD MANY, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH PUBLIC WORKS WITH, UH, FINANCIAL DIRECTORS.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NO REAL PLAN FOR OUR WASTEWATER AND WE ARE ACTUALLY SETTING A DATE FOR OUR STREETS, FOR OUR, OUR BOND.

SO THAT'S NOT GONNA BE, I THINK UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

SO THE SOONEST WE WILL HAVE A ROAD PLAN IF ALL GOES WELL, WOULD BE DEAR AND OUR MEETING NEXT MONTH.

SO I THINK I GOT MY QUESTION NOW OR, OKAY.

SO WITH THE, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO THE WATER, I THINK MAYBE THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE SEEING IS MAYBE NOT SO MUCH THE LACK OF WATER, BUT THE CONSUMPTION OF WATER THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE USING.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED IMPLEMENTING RESTRICTIONS.

CORRECT.

BECAUSE OF THE USAGE OF THE WATER.

AND THAT MAY BE ANOTHER FACTOR OF WHY WE HAD TO REACH OUT TO OTHER AREAS TO BRING IN WATER.

CORRECT.

IS BECAUSE OF THE CONSUMPTION OF OUR RESIDENTS USING WATER.

CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, UH, I HAVE KIDS AT HOME AND I SWEAR MY LAUNDRY IS EVERY DAY WHERE THAT THAT MACHINE IS JUST PUMPING, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY.

AND WE DON'T, SO IT'S ONLY THREE KIDS, YOU KNOW, BUT I CAN IMAGINE BUSINESSES EVEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD DRIVING OUT, THERE'S STILL PEOPLE WATERING THEIR LAWNS AND, UH, SEEING RUNOFF.

AND I WONDER IF IT'S, THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE FACTORS OF WHY WE'RE IN SUCH THIS, THIS PREDICAMENT WHEN IT COMES TO OUR WATER, IS THE OVER CONSUMPTION THAT WE'RE SEEING.

HARPER WATER, EXCUSE ME, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

SO THIS PARTICULAR YEAR, THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN A HISTORIC DROUGHT THAT HAS AFFECTED EVERYONE IN TEXAS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH PRIMARILY.

UM, BECAUSE OF THAT AND THE PERMIT RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAD TO UNDERGO, WE HAD TO CUT BACK.

TIM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.

TIM SANFORD, MY DIVISION MANAGER FOR TREATMENT AND OPERATIONS, DONE A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING US KIND OF ON TRACK ONLINE TO TRY TO STAY WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS.

WHEN WE SAW THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO, TO, TO STAY WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS IS WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO, TO OTHER PROVIDERS TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THOSE EA PERMIT RIGHTS, WHICH WE HAVE DONE.

UM, SO WE'RE EVEN IN HISTORIC DROUGHT, WE'RE STILL ABLE TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE WATER TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE MANAGEMENT NOW IN, IN THE FUTURE, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE PAST THAT WE'VE LOOKED TOWARDS ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES OF WATER.

UM, HENCE THE ARWA NEGOTIATIONS FOR 10 YEARS NOW.

UM, NOW ALLIANCE, UM, THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT ARWA WATER, I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE IN 2024.

UH, THE LATTER PART OF 2024.

IT'S GONNA PROVIDE ABOUT 1.725 MGD MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

UM, AT THAT POINT.

UM, THEN IN 2028 THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 2.76.

UM, THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THAT ONE C AND ONE D PHASE AND 28 THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE COMBINED.

COMBINED.

SO YOU COULD HAVE 2.76 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, PLUS 3.77 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY ADDED IN 28.

THEN IN 2040

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THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 8.811 MGD ADDED.

SO ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND NOW, UH, ARE COMING TO FRUITION.

WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE G B R A WATER THAT WE PURCHASED HERE A BIT BACK, THE REMAINDER OF THE SO-CALLED PIPE, THERE WAS A SLICE OF PIE LEFT IN THAT PIPE, WHICH, UM, THE CITY AGREED TO AND COUNCIL AGREED TO PURCHASE THAT REMAINING AMOUNT.

THAT IS WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDING US THIS EXCESS WATER UNTIL ARUA HITS US.

UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'RE GOING ALONG, UH, FULLY HOPING AND EXPECTING THAT ARUA HITS IN THE TIMEFRAME THEY DO.

UM, I HAVE NOTHING SHOWING RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S NOT, UM, HOWEVER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GONNA KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON.

WE'RE GONNA WATCH AND WE'RE GONNA MANAGE AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LET Y'ALL KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT AS FOR THE WASTE WIRE TO GO BACK, UM, MS FLOOR SCALE.

UM, SHE IS RIGHT, THE 12 MG D WHEN WE HIT THAT 12 MG D MARK, UM, WE NEED ANOTHER, WE NEED ANOTHER PLAN.

YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S STILL A WAYS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS TIME WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND ANOTHER SOLUTION IN WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE WASTEWATER THAT WILL BE NEEDED.

UM, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THAT THIS NINE MGD THAT WE'RE MOVING TO IS GONNA CARRY US.

UM, I DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS WITH ME ON THAT ONE RIGHT NOW, AND I APOLOGIZE.

WELL, HARPER, ONE WAY YOU CAN DISCUSS IT IS TO SAY, WHAT IS OUR AVERAGE DAILY USE CURRENTLY FROM AN MG D STANDPOINT, AND THEN WHAT'S OUR POPULATION? SO OUR POPULATION, AND BY BEST GUESS, IS 60,000 RESIDENTS.

AND WE'RE USING ON AVERAGE WHAT MGD PER MONTH FOR WATER WASTEWATER, WASTEWATER, WASTEWATER.

TIM, CAN YOU COME UP FOR A SECOND PLEASE? I MEAN, GET THE ONE WHO DEALS WITH THE NUMBERS EVERY DAY.

MM-HMM.

, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE BASIC NUMBER.

I KNOW THERE'S A FORMULA BASED ON YEARS AND SEASONS AND CYCLES AND, YOU KNOW, IN INFLOW AND INFILTRATION, ALL THAT BASED ON RAIN EVENT.

BUT JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, FOR WE ARE WITHIN OUR PERMITTED LEVELS NOW WITH PLANS TO EXPAND, BUT WHAT IS OUR AVERAGE MGD USE? ROUGHLY, IF YOU HAD TO GIVE OUT A NUMBER.

SO, TIM SANFORD, FOR THE RECORD, UH, TO ANSWER A QUESTION DIRECTLY, CURRENTLY WE'RE AT, UH, THIS LAST MONTH, OUR ANNUAL AVERAGE IS WHAT T C Q LOOKS AT IT.

MM-HMM.

IS 3.1 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S FOR A POPULATION OF 60,000 WASTEWATER.

FOR WASTEWATER.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT WOULD 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY BE? ALL THINGS CONSISTENT ONCE WE GET TO THAT NUMBER, WHICH IS THE THRESHOLD BEYOND WHICH WE HA WE STILL HAVE FUTURE THINK, YOU KNOW, ISSUES TO SOLVE FOR, I MEAN FOUR TIMES PROPER POPULATION, COULD THAT HANDLE, IS THAT WHAT RIGHT.

IF 60,000 PEOPLE CAN HANDLE 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, THEN IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT IT WOULD BE 240,000 WOULD BE THE POPULATION FOR 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

SO I'M JUST, IN TERMS OF WHAT A MORATORIUM IS, MY POINT IN ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS, MORATORIUM IS DESIGNED TO STOP AN IMMINENT BLEED.

SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT STOP THAT IS THREATENING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR CITY TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT WE CAN'T FULFILL OUR OBLIGATIONS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO WASTEWATER, WHEN IT COMES TO WATER, WHEN IT COMES TO ROADS AND STREETS AND NAVIGATION, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

UH, RIGHT NOW WE ARE, WE HAVE PLANS IN PLACE TO EXPAND OUR WASTEWATER.

WE HAVE PLANS IN PLACE TO EXPAND OUR WATER.

WE HAVE VERY ROBUST PLANS THAT REQUIRE GROWTH SO THAT WE STAY WITHIN OUR TAX LIMITS, UH, TO EXPAND OUR ROADS TO THE TUNE OF 294 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

IF WE ISSUED A MORATORIUM, UH, RIGHT NOW THREATEN THE GROWTH PROJECTIONS THAT ARE, UH, BEING PROPOSED, UH, RIGHT NOW BY OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND WOULD CAUSE US POTENTIALLY EITHER NOT TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL OUR ROAD, OUR ROAD BOND OBLIGATION, OR TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO RAISE TAXES HIGHER THAN WHAT WE PROMISED.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS, ARE THERE ANY CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE PIECES THAT IN, IN YOUR VIEW, RISE TO THE LEVEL OF REQUIRING US TO HIT THE MORATORIUM BUTTON AS IT RELATES TO OUR PLANNING AND OUR CURRENT POSITION? YOU KNOW, MORATORIUMS ARE MEANT TO BE 90 DAYS, 120 DAYS, THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS IS ABOUT AS LONG AS THEY EVER GO.

EVEN OUR HISTORIC ONE IN 2004 WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE WERE BLOWING OUR WATER PERMITS SUBSTANTIALLY AND WE DID NOT, UH, COME OUT OF THE MORATORIUM UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE A DEAL FOR CANYON THROUGH SAN MARCOS MM-HMM.

, UH, TO GET CANYON LAKE WATER, UH, WHICH IS THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'RE STILL, WHICH ARE THE AGREEMENTS WE'RE STILL USING TODAY.

YES.

AND SO NOW WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE A WHOLE NEW WATER SOURCE COMING ON.

BUT I WILL SAY MM-HMM.

, IT'S VERY COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT THE REASON THAT, UH, CABELA'S IS IN BUTTA AND NOT IN KYLE AT THE TIME IS BECAUSE WE WERE IN A MORATORIUM, UH, IN THE CITY OF BUTTA WAS NOT.

AND SO

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THAT'S JUST THINGS YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER IS THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IMPACT THAT DECLARING AN EMERGENCY.

MM-HMM.

, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO WHAT A MORATORIUM IS.

IT'S BY FAR CONSIDERED THE MOST HATCHET TYPE MOVE THAT YOU CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT ON YOUR CITY.

UH, ARE WE, ARE WE IN THAT POSITION IN YOUR MIND? DO WE NEED TO HIT THAT BUTTON? SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN IMMEDIATE IMMINENT ISSUE RIGHT NOW, NO SIR.

NO SIR.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONSTANTLY BE OBSERVANT OF WHICH WE ALREADY ARE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UM, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT THAT 12 MGD LATER ON, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A SOLUTION FOR.

MM-HMM.

UM, I'M, I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING AT A LATER DATE.

BUT RIGHT NOW ARE WE IN AN I IMMINENT ISSUE? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

COUNCIL.

SO YOU DID MENTION THAT WE, US USUALLY, WE NORMALLY USE 3.1 MGD.

CORRECT? AS OF RIGHT NOW WITH THE POPULATION WE HAVE, OUR ANNUAL AVERAGE IS CURRENTLY 3.1 MAN GALLONS PER DAY FOR WASTEWATER.

YES MA'AM.

OKAY.

AND THE LIMIT WILL BE 12.4.

CURRENTLY OUR PERMANENT CAPACITY IS 4.5 AND WE ARE SEEKING AN AMENDMENT TO OUR PERMIT WITH T C Q, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PROCESS TO AMEND IT TO A INTERIM OF NON MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AND A FINAL OF 12.

OKAY.

SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS LIKE, CUZ I DO THINK DOING A MORATORIUM WILL BE SOMETHING DRASTIC AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THE IMPLICATIONS LIKE ECONOMICAL IMPLICATIONS WILL BE, UH, SPECIFIC, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE JUST APPROVE THAT $294 MILLION BOND.

UM, DO YOU CONSIDER THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE DOING RIGHT NOW? PASSING, PASSING THE MORATORIUM AS FAR AS AN IMMINENT CONCERN? NO MA'AM.

I, I, I'VE SAID THAT, THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE IN IMMINENT DANGER.

WE'RE NOT IN, IN AN IMMINENT ISSUE.

UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT.

LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR.

OKAY.

AND, AND, AND PROPER GROWTH.

SO MR. MAYOR, EARLIER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU LOOK, YOU HAVE THIS MUCH, SO THERE SHOULD BE THIS MUCH POPULATION HERE.

UM, IT, IT, IT, IT'S NOT ALL APPLES TO APPLES.

IT WAS A GOOD THING WHAT YOU SAID.

YES.

UH, PROVIDED THAT WE ARE THE, THE DEVELOPMENT OR A BUSINESS THAT COMES IN IS NOT EXCEEDING CERTAIN EX EXPECTATIONS.

AND THEN THAT'S OUR JOB TO LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS AND SEE IF WE CAN HANDLE THAT AT THE TIME.

RIGHT.

BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE POINT, YOU'RE RIGHT, DIFFERENT USERS FOR WASTEWATER, MAJOR, MAJOR DIFFERENCE.

BUT YOU CAN LOOK HISTORICALLY AND YOU CAN SAY, BASED ON THE GROWTH RATES OF THE CITY, WHAT IS THAT ANNUAL T C Q NUMBER INCREASING BY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? AND ARE WE IN 90 DAY THREAT OR 120 DAY THREAT OF EXCEEDING 4.5, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT PERMIT? AND IF WE ARE, DO WE HAVE A PLAN? AND, AND, AND, AND IF WE'RE NOT, AND ALSO I SHOULD SAY, DO WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR BEYOND 4.5, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE DO.

CUZ WHEN WE BUILT, YOU KNOW, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLAN EXPANSION THAT WE JUST COMPLETED WAS A MAJOR, MAJOR PROJECT.

YES.

IT ACCOMPLISHED TWO THINGS.

THE FIRST IT DID WAS IT, UH, SOLVED OUR IMMEDIATE WASTEWATER NEEDS BY INCREASING OUR MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OUTPUT OR ACCEPTANCE RATE.

UH, BUT SECONDARILY IT WAS LIKE A, IT WAS ALWAYS EXPLAINED TO ME LIKE A SERVER BOX.

SO WE WERE BUILDING THE, THE CAPACITY NOW, BUT WE WERE ALSO SETTING UP WITHIN THE PLANT THE ABILITY FOR IT TO INCREASE ITS CAPACITY WITHOUT HAVING TO NECESSARILY BUILD ANOTHER PLANT SO IT WOULD BE ABLE TO USE EXISTING PIECES.

SO A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT EXPANSION MODEL THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE CHEAPER ON A PER MILLION GALLON BASIS BY EXPANDING THAT CURRENT PLANT, WHICH ARE ALL PLANS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

YES.

NOW THERE ARE, THERE IS AN UNSOLVED VARIABLE OUT THERE RELATED TO A REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

MM-HMM.

WHERE THEY'RE BASED ON THE, THE, THE FLOW BASIN FOR THIS, THE BASICALLY BLANK BLANCO RIVER RANCH AND THEN ALL THE WAY SOUTH NANCE EAST TO THE MCCOY'S AND FURTHER EAST INTO SAN MARCOS.

THERE'S LIKE A BASIN OUT THERE AND THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAYBE DOING A REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WITH SAN MARCOS AS WELL THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ALL THAT TO COME IN PLACE.

UH, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PUT TOGETHER BUT IT'S, I WOULD ANTICIPATE IN THE COMING YEARS STILL ON THE HORIZON.

YOU CORRECT.

AND YOU'RE CORRECT ON THE EXPANSION AS WELL.

THERE WAS HEADER WORK DONE WITH THIS RECENT EXPANSION AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS TO PREPARE FOR THIS SECOND EXPANSION THAT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY.

ALRIGHT, CUSTOMER TOBY.

OKAY.

NOW, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE KNOW WHAT THE IMPACTS WOULD BE FOR WATER.

NOW I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO IMPOSE

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SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IF THERE'S A, A WAY I COULD GET MAYBE THE UM, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM OR SOMEBODY TO GIVE US AN IDEA IF THIS WAS TO BE IMPLEMENTED, WHAT WOULD BE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.

SECOND OF ALL, WHAT IS, HOW MUCH CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW ON THE TABLES OR WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR THAT'S BEING PROPOSED? BECAUSE AGAIN, MAYOR'S, RIGHT, WE JUST PASSED A BOND FOR 294 MILLION, RIGHT? WE ALSO HAVE A NEW BUDGET THAT'S COMING UP FOR THE NEXT YEAR FOR OTHER PROJECTS.

SO BY IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TEMPORARILY, WHEREAS 120 DAYS OR 90 DAYS, WHAT WOULD BE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT? WHAT WOULD BE THE PUBLIC'S PERCEPTION AND WHAT WOULD BE OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT COMING IN HERE SAY, OH WAIT A MINUTE, LET'S STOP THE BREAKS.

WHAT'S KYLE DOING? THAT'S MAKING US VERY NERVOUS.

SO WE HAVE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, VEMO HEAT, UM, ONLINE READY TO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS FOR AND AGAINST.

AND UM, I'D LIKE HIM TO START WITH THAT AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

BARR COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD, I'M PERVEZ MAHI CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

UH, BEFORE I SHARE MY THOUGHTS, MARIN COUNSEL, I WOULD HIGHLY ADVISE THAT WHAT I MAY DISCUSS MAY REQUIRE YOU TO SEEK CONSULTATION AND THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND PERHAPS THE CITY'S BOND COUNSEL.

SO BASED ON THAT, I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO YOUR JUDGMENT IF YOU WANT ME TO PROCEED OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO HEAR PREVENTS TESTIMONY? NO.

UH, OKAY.

COUNCILOR FLORES KA, UM, AND BOND COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT DISCUSSION WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE SITTING IN HERE THAT THIS MAY AFFECT.

I DON'T NECESSARILY, UM, AGREE WITH GOING INTO EXECUTIVE.

I THINK WE DO THAT A LOT.

I'M OKAY SAYING OUT HERE, BUT IF THE MAJORITY WANT TO GO BACK IN THERE, THEN THAT, THAT MAY BE WHAT WE DO.

I JUST DON'T WANNA BE AFRAID.

I MEAN, HERE'S A DEAL.

THIS MORATORIUM IS NOT A SCARE TACTIC.

IT'S NOT NEGATIVE.

THIS, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS, UH, STATUTE THAT SAYS THIS IS, THIS HAS TO BE BECAUSE IT'S DIRE.

IT JUST SAYS WE'RE GIVING OUR CITY TIME TO CREATE A PLAN AND TO GET THINGS BACK TOGETHER.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NEGATIVE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SCARE TACTIC.

OUR DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA COME AND TO ASK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT DEVELOPMENT ARE WE GONNA MISS OUT ON WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT EVEN COMING TO APPLY? I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

THAT'S A SILLY QUESTION IN MY BOOK BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ISN'T GONNA BE APPLIED FOR CUZ THEY'RE NOT COMING.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY REAL TRUE WAY TO FIGURE OUT THE ECONOMIC EFFECT ON THIS.

AND AND EVEN WITH THAT SAID, WE, WE HAVE CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE JUST NEED TO CATCH ON AS WELL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WAITING.

UM, THIS ISN'T GONNA BREAK, KYLE.

YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND THE FEAR OF, OH NO, WE'RE GONNA LOSE DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT.

I I, I BELIEVE KYLE IS A PROSPERING CITY.

I BELIEVE TAKING TIME AND ALLOWING OURSELVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A PLAN IS NOT ONLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT IT'S THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.

AND IT COULD BE 30 DAYS, IT COULD BE 90 DAYS.

THERE'S NOWHERE IN THIS STATUTE THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE DIRE.

THERE'S NOWHERE THAT SAYS, OH MY GOSH, THIS IS A RED FLAG.

THE CITY IS GONNA FALL TO PIECES.

IF WE IMPOSE A MORATORIUM, WHAT IT SAYS IS, GUESS WHAT, WE HAVE GROWN MUCH FASTER THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AS A COUNCIL AND AS STAFF AND FIGURE OUT THE WAY THAT WE WANT TO GO.

AND MAY I SAY SOMETHING CUSTOMER PERSONALLY? WELL, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN TRY TO WORK ON A PLAN ACTUALLY DURING THE VISIONING WORKSHOP ON HOW DO WE WANNA ADDRESS ANY ISSUES IF WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER WITHOUT HAVING TO IMPOSE A MORATORIUM? I I JUST DON'T SEE ANY OF STOPPING PERMITS OR ZONE CHANGINGS OR ANY DEVELOPMENT FROM COMING IN OR TRYING TO DO AN APPLICATION.

WE CAN STILL DO WORK WITH STAFF TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ADDRESS ISSUES, IF ANY.

I FEEL LIKE DEVELOPERS ARE ALREADY HAVING A WAITING LIST OF THREE MONTHS, TWO MONTHS TO DEVELOP.

AND SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A BIG SH IT'S IN FACT IT MIGHT MOVE FASTER FOR THOSE

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DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE IF WE ALLOW OUR CITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE HAVE.

BUT WE WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH REAL STATS THAT SHOW THAT WE ARE TO THE LIMIT.

THAT WE WILL HAVE TO SET A MORATORIUM.

WE HAVE ALREADY GONE OVER OUR, OUR WATER USAGE THREE MONTHS IN A ROW.

BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE WERE GOING UNDER LIKE REAL AND NEXT YEAR ARE WE GONNA HAVE A DROUGHT? I DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

SO NEXT YEAR WE MAY BE IN THE SAME BOAT, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE DO NOT NEED TO TAKE SUCH MEASURE.

WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN ACTUALLY WITHIN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT WILL BE SOMETHING TO BE ADDED TO THE VISION WORKSHOP.

IF I JUST MAY INTERVENE.

IF YOU JUST HEARD MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, UH, MS. FORK, IT'S LIKE WHAT IS THE POSITIVE AND THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ECONOMICALLY.

OKAY.

I SAID LOOK AT BOTH.

WHAT WOULD BE BOTH? I THOUGHT IT WAS FINANCIAL.

SORRY.

OR FINANCIAL.

YEAH.

WHAT WOULD BE THE BOTH.

IF WE WERE TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHAT WOULD BE THE POSITIVE SIDES? CAUSE I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS LOGICALLY IN THE BIGGER PROSPECT.

ARE WE GROWING FAST? YES.

ARE OUR ROADS FALLING APART? SOME OF 'EM ARE PRETTY BAD.

YES.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE AND I'M RESPECTFULLY ADDRESSING THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEGATIVE, HOW FAST WE'RE GOING THINK.

THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS COMPREHENSION PLAN GOING AND GETTING PEOPLE ON BOARD TO SEE WHERE OUR GROWTH IS LOOKING AT THOSE PLANTS.

OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT AS FAR AS THE GROWTH AND, AND THE NERVOUSNESS AND THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE WITH OUR WASTEWATER, BUT IT IS TRUE.

WE HAVE BEEN IN A DROUGHT FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS.

WE CANNOT PREDICT WHEN RAIN'S GONNA COME AND FILL UP OUR TANKS AND FILL UP OUR RIVERS.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER COMPANY THAT'S COMING HERE, OR WE COULD HAVE A RECESSION OR SO FORTH.

UH, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE FUTURE.

YES.

BUT I, I THINK IN THIS SENSE IS THAT I, WE, WHAT, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING IN THIS FACTION, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT LOGICALLY FROM BOTH THE POSITIVE AND THE NEGATIVE SIDES WHEN IT COMES TO OUR WATER, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPERS, AND ALSO FROM THE PUBLIC.

AGAIN, WE JUST PASSED A BOND, AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT US SAYING, OH, THEY WANT TO, WHY ARE WE SHUTTING DOWN AND PULLING THE PLUG FOR 30 DAYS OR 90 DAYS? WHAT, IN THE 90 DAYS AND 120 DAYS IMPROVEMENTS, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH CITYWIDE TO BE ABLE TO LIFT THOSE THINGS? AND SO, UH, IF, IF, AND THEN WE COULD JUST GO FROM THERE, MAYOR, WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU WANNA GO IN.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL BE, I'LL BE HONEST ABOUT MY OPINION ON THIS IS THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT A MORATORIUM IS EMPHATICALLY THE WRONG THING TO DO, UH, FOR THE CITY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY, UM, UH, JUSTIFIABLE REASON FOR US IN OUR CURRENT POSITION TO, UH, PURSUE GOING INTO A MORATORIUM.

SO, UH, I'M OFFERING, I'M TRY, I I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HAVING AS MUCH AS ROBUST OF A DISCUSSION AS CUSTOMER FLORES, KALE AND THE COUNCIL WISH TO, UH, TO HAVE.

BUT AT ANY MOMENT THAT Y'ALL READY, I'M READY TO TAKE ACTION.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, AS IT RELATES TO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF A MORATORIUM, WE HAVE STAFF MEMBERS WHO HAVE LIVED THROUGH IT.

UM, AND WE HAVE, THERE'S HISTORICAL EVIDENCE AND DATA, SO WE DON'T GET TO, UH, MAKE OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT IMPACT ON GROWTH A MORATORIUM HAS.

UH, THERE'S HARD, THERE'S HARD DATA, UH, THERE TO DISCUSS.

UH, AND THOSE, THOSE IMPACTS TO THE CITY DO HAVE A CONFIDENTIAL NATURE, WHICH IS WHAT EXECUTIVE SESSION IS FOR.

IF WE WANT TO GO IN THERE AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR AUTO MORATORIUM, UH, COULD IMPACT OUR BOND RATINGS CALL IN TWO DAYS BY STANDARD AND PORES, WHICH IS BEING PROPOSED, WE CAN GO BACK AND HAVE THAT, UH, THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, BUT AGAIN, FOR ME, I'M, I'M READY TO, UM, TO, TO BE CLEAR ABOUT MY POSITION.

BUT IF, IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO HAVE PERVEZ SPEAK PUBLICLY, WE CAN DO THAT.

UH, I'M ALSO WILLING TO GO INTO EXEC.

WE JUST NEED TO MOVE ON THIS.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, UH, YEAH, SO I, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON IT TOO.

AND, UH, MORATORIUMS ARE NORM MAINLY OCCUR AFTER A DISASTER, AND YOU HAVE TO SLOW DOWN TO MAKE SURE YOU GET IT BACK UP IN THE RIGHT SHAPE.

UH, FOR ME, I WOULD HAVE TO HEAR FROM PLANNING, ZONING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMBINED PUBLIC WORKS TELLING ME ON COUNCIL, WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN, STOP.

WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN.

BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE DO HAVE A PLAN, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AS A, UH, THE PERMITTING OF T SSEC, THE REGIONAL, UM, ARE THERE AREAS IN THE CITY THAT ARE PROBABLY EXPONENTIALLY GROWING MUCH FASTER AT A RATE THAT IS UNCONTROLLABLE? MAYBE A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF IT.

BUT IF, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM IN ONE SECTOR OF, OF OUR COMMUNITY, MAYBE THEN WE JUST CONFINE IT, TARGETED IT.

BUT I ALSO DON'T LIKE TO JUST THROW THE WORD MORATORIUM AROUND BECAUSE IT IS RISKY TO INVESTORS, AND IT DOES SEND THE WRONG SIGNAL THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT KEEPING PACE WITH OUR

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INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO UNLESS THE SEWAGE IS COMPLETELY SPILLING OVER ON THE STREETS, I WOULD SAY I'M NOT, WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING SOMETHING UNLESS I HEAR IT FROM PUBLIC WORKS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AND ZONING COMBINED.

UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO MY, THAT WOULD BE BE MY POSITION ON IT.

CUSTOMER REISER.

UH, YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UM, JUST TO LET MY THOUGHTS BE KNOWN HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT A MORATORIUM IS, UH, BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT WE HAVE HEARD TONIGHT.

AND, UM, UH, JUST THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I'VE GAINED IN, UH, IN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS ON THE CITY'S PLANS.

UH, BUT WHAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IS WHAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE WAS, WAS SUGGESTING IS, IS SCENARIO PLANNING IN COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR FUTURE PROBLEMS THAT ARE YET TO BE, THAT HAVE YET TO BE REALIZED.

I DON'T THINK THOSE TWO THINGS ARE THE SAME AT ALL.

I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AS IS WITH THE, WITH, UH, ADDRESSING THE GROWTH AND, UH, AS WE HAVE, BUT ALSO PARALLEL PATHING, UM, A PROCESS FOR COMING UP WITH SOLUTIONS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY BRAIN WORKS LIKE A, A WHEEL OF OUTCOMES IS WHAT'S THE, WE NEED TO COUPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT POTENTIAL OUTCOMES, UM, ARE POSSIBLE BASED ON OUR ACTIONS.

AND SO IF WE CAN USE THAT PLANNING SESSION TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, UM, A COUPLE DIFFERENT PATHS FORWARD TO ADDRESS, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, OUTCOMES THAT ARE NOT FAVORABLE, THEN WE'RE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF WHERE WE WOULD BE IF WE JUST, UM, SAT STILL, UH, AND, AND WERE IDLE ON THIS.

UM, SO TO REITERATE, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF MORATORIUM, BUT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF PUTTING OUR HEADS TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN, UM, ADDRESS POTENTIAL PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE.

BUT AGAIN, THOSE THINGS ARE NOT ONE AND THE SAME.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL THEN I, I'M OPEN TO MAKING A MOTION IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE.

UH, THE MOTION I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS TO AFFIRM THE CITY'S CURRENT PLANNING PROCESS FOR WATER WASTEWATER AND ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE WITH REGARDS TO WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANT EXPANSIONS, UH, WATER EXPANSIONS, UH, THROUGH ALLIANCE AND, UH, ROAD REHABILITATION THROUGH OUR, UH, STREETS, CONSTRUCTION STREETS, MAINTENANCE BUDGET, OUR $294 MILLION, UH, ROADS IMPROVEMENT BOND, AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE ARE PLANNING, UH, AND NOT ENTER A MORATORIUM AT THIS TIME.

SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL AS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? NA.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM

[30.  [Postponed 12/6/2022] Discussion and possible action regarding the City's $294,400,000.00 road bond, to include but not limited to, road priority based on staff information and council feedback. ~ Yvonne Flores-Cale, Council Member]

NUMBER 30, POSTPONED, UH, AT THE 12 SIX MEETING.

THIS IS DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY'S 294 MILLION ROAD BOND TO INCLUDE THE NOT LIMITED TWO ROAD PRIORITY BASED ON STAFF INFORMATION AND COUNCIL FEEDBACK.

SO THIS WAS BROUGHT BACK BY COUNSEL, UH, ACTION AND WAS POSTPONED.

UH, I BELIEVE THERE ALSO IS DISCUSSION ABOUT SETTING UP A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS IN FURTHER DETAIL.

CORRECT.

THE, MY AGENDA ITEM WAS JUST BROUGHT BACK SO WE COULD DISCUSS A DATE AND I THINK IF THAT WAS DISCUSSED TO BE IN AN EMAIL.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER WAS GONNA BE ABLE TO LOOK AT HIS SCHEDULE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT FITS THIS FOR THE WORKSHOP.

UH, THIS IS GONNA BE FOR THE ROAD BOND WORKSHOP.

OH, YEAH.

SO IT'S, UH, THE DATE THAT WAS PRESENTED.

ALSO, MY WIFE IS OUTTA TOWN THAT MORNING, SO I HAVE THE CHILDREN.

UM, SO I WAS ACTUALLY HOPING I WASN'T HERE AT THE MEETING WHEN IT WAS PLANNED, SO, OKAY.

BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S A BIG MEETING, SO I WAS HOPING WE COULD TRY TO FIND SOMETHING WHERE I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND.

WHAT IS THE SET DATE? IT WAS IN JANUARY.

IT WAS THE 21ST.

IT WAS THE 21ST.

WOULD JANUARY 14TH WORK, OR THE 28TH? JANUARY 14TH WOULD WORK FOR ME.

AND THIS WOULD JUST BE A STANDALONE, RIGHT? JUST SO WE COULD DISCUSS JUST ROAD BONUS, JUST TALK ABOUT IT ALL, WHICH IS A'S A GOOD HEALTHY DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE, BE LIKE A TOWN HALL, I BELIEVE.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE'RE JUST OPEN.

YEAH, I CAN DO THE 14TH OR THE 28TH.

WOULD THAT EITHER OF THOSE DATES? IT'D BE LIKE AN 8:00 AM MEETING SATURDAY MORNING? YES.

YES.

EITHER ONE WORKS FOR ME.

BOTH WORKS FOR ME.

ALRIGHT.

UM, UH, JERRY, YOU WERE, I THINK YOU, WERE YOU IN THE MEETING REGARDING THE MOST RECENT RHODE BOND MEETING? IS THERE A PREFERENCE FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT AS FAR AS W WOULD STAFF RATHER HAVE THE MEETING SECOND WEEK IN JANUARY, OR WAIT UNTIL THE FOURTH WEEK IN JANUARY TO HAVE A WORKSHOP? AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER FOR EVERYONE WHO WOULD BE PRESENT AT THAT, BUT WE'RE AMENABLE TO WHATEVER BEST SUITS COUNSEL.

NO.

I MEAN, WOULD, DID IT ALSO HAVE TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF PAPERWORK? THEY MEAN, UH, JOE WOULD HAVE

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TO PREPARE? WAS HE LOOKING AT A CERTAIN, LIKE YOU NEEDED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WEEKS? I CAN'T REMEMBER RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

I THINK, UH, JOE WAS LOOKING AT THE, UH, WEEKEND OF THE 21ST.

OKAY.

CAN WE DO THE 28TH? IS EVERYBODY AMENABLE TO THE 28TH? I CAN DO THE 28TH.

OKAY.

THAT WAY WE CAN LET JOE KNOW.

WE CAN GIVE HIM THAT EXTRA TIME.

I THINK IT WAS A MATTER IF I CAN REMEMBER THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO GET, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET ALL THE PLANS READY FOR US AND THEN PRESENT IT, AND THEN WE CAN START GOING FROM THERE.

BUT WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION OF THE WEEKEND OF THE 21ST, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY MOVE IT TO THE 28TH.

OKAY.

AT 8:00 AM OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

YEP.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM? THAT'LL BE IT.

NOPE.

THANK YOU.

JANUARY 28TH.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM

[31.  

A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas, Amending Resolution Number 1308 And Restating the City of Kyle Rules of City Council, Providing for Meetings, Agenda, Council Proceedings, Reconsideration of Agenda Items; Parliamentary Procedure, Debate, Decorum, and Citizen Participation at Meetings; Making Findings of Fact; and Providing for Related Matters. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor

]

NUMBER 31, UH, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF CALL TEXAS, AMENDING RESOLUTION 1308 AND RESTATING THE CITY OF KYLE.

RULES OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, PROVIDING FOR MEETINGS, AGENDA, UH, COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS, RECONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEMS, PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, DEBATE, DECORUM, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, FINDINGS OF FACT, ET CETERA.

UH, THIS IS MY ITEM.

IT IS REQUIRED THAT WE BRING IT UP AFTER A NEW SEATING, UH, NEW SEATED COUNCIL.

SO I DID NOT HAVE ANY PROPOSED CHANGES, BUT I WANTED TO, UH, INVITE THE COUNCIL IF THEY WANTED TO MAKE ANY PROPOSED CHANGES.

BUT EITHER WAY, WE NEED TO AFFIRM WHAT RULES WERE WILLING TO, UH, OPERATE UNDER.

WE'VE LOST A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT CUZ BEFORE, UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS INTO LEGAL.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD POSTPONE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT, UH, MEETING UNTIL I GOT SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK.

UH, I, I DON'T CARE.

THAT'S FINE BY ME.

SO WE'RE OPERATING UNDER THE RULES OF COUNCIL AS THEY ARE.

WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK AND CHANGE.

SO, UM, HAS, HAS LEGAL NOT HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE QUESTION I ASKED HER TODAY? YESTERDAY? YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS.

SORRY.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO POSTPONE TO THE NEXT MEETING? WE CAN.

I JUST, I DO WANNA CAUTION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S THE SITUATION WHERE IT'S A PROPERLY CHARTER SUPPORTED BRING IT BACK.

YES.

HAVE A DISCUSSION.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE HAD TIME TO GET OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THIS.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S PRESSING, YOU WANNA WAIT ON, I DON'T CARE.

AND I, I THINK IT'D ALSO GIVE OPPORTUNITY TO THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER TO, TO READ.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HAD A CHANCE OR NOT, BUT IT'S HIS FIRST MEETING HE HAS.

IT'S BEEN SHARED, BUT I MEAN, AGAIN, IT SAYS TO DO IT AT THIS TIME.

SO WE NEED TO, WE, THE POINT BEING FOR THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY NEED TO AGREE CUZ THEY'VE NEVER TAKEN A VOTE ON THE RULES OF COUNCIL.

THIS IS OUR WAY OF TAKING A VOTE AND ALL AGREEING TO ABIDE BY THE SET OF RULES.

SO, UM, I'M, BUT I'M OKAY TO POSTPONE.

ARE WE POSTPONING? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL BRING THIS ONE BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS AGENDA

[32.  Discussion and possible action regarding updating the policy on Appointments for City Boards, Committees and Commissions. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]

ITEM 32.

DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING UPDATING THE POLICY ON APPOINTMENTS FOR CITY BOARDS, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS.

I THINK MAYBE COUNCILMAN PARSLEY AND I GOT OUR, UM, UM, WIRES CROSSED BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL.

UH, BUT I WAS BRINGING IT FORWARD BASED ON SEATING OF THE, UH, THE NEW COUNCIL.

SO IT'S JUST BOTH OF US HAVE BEEN PLANNING ON BRINGING IT FORWARD.

UH, THE, THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT COUNCILMAN PARTIALLY MADE, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, ARE ALL VERY AMENABLE TO ME.

I THINK THAT IT GETS THE POLICY BACK TO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE WORKABLE, THAT ALLOWS FOR THERE TO BE SOME TYPE OF INTERVIEW PROCESS.

UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, UH, UH, BUT THAT ALSO GIVES COUNCIL MEMBERS THE ABILITY TO, UM, UH, CHECK EACH OTHER BY HAVING COUNCIL BE THE ONE WHO APPOINTS THE COUNCIL REPRE REPRESENTATIVE AS OPPOSED TO THE MAYOR.

SO IF WE WENT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PARLEYS RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT WE ESSENTIALLY GO BACK TO THE OLD POLICY, BUT WITH THE IMPORTANT KEY CHANGES, UH, NUMBER ONE IS THAT THE PANEL WOULD BE REDUCED FROM FOUR MEMBERS TO THREE.

UH, THAT THAT WOULD, THAT PANEL WOULD CONSIST OF A CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE, UH, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT'S OVER THE BOARD.

SO MARIANA FOR THE, UH, PARKS BOARD, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, WILL FOR THE P AND Z AND SO FORTH MM-HMM.

.

UH, AND THEN INSTEAD OF IT BEING THE MAYOR OR DESIGNEE, IT WOULD BE A COUNCIL APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH IS NOT DIFFERENT THAN A LIAISON.

SO THIS ISN'T, WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOW OUR LIAISON TO THE BOARD.

WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE APPOINTING YOU TO THE INTERVIEW COMMITTEE TO GO IN WITH THAT GROUP, ASK QUESTIONS, UH, AND INTERVIEW THE CANDIDATES, AND THEN MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL.

UH, WHAT THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH IS THAT IT WOULD INCREASE THE, UH, UH, IT WOULD EXPEDITE THE PROCESS.

SO WHENEVER THERE'S A VACANCY AND WE HAVE THE, UH, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMMEDIATELY POST THAT INTERVIEW PANEL COULD CONVENE, UH, AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IN A MORE TIMELY MANNER.

UH, AND THEN, UM, SECONDARILY, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THERE TO BE SORT OF A, UH, A FILTRATION, UH, PROCESS.

AND THEN ALSO, UH, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE A SAY OVER WHO FROM THIS BODY REPRESENTS THE COUNCIL ON THAT GROUP BASED ON, UH, COUNCIL WILL AND DISCRETION.

SO IT TAKES THE MAYOR'S, UH, INTEREST, UH, OR SPECIAL INTEREST COMPLETELY OUT OF THE POLICY.

SO THAT WAS GONNA BE, UH, MY RECOMMENDATION

[03:15:01]

AS WELL AS COUNCIL MAYOR PARSLEY'S IN D UH, IN, IN DISCUSSION.

AND SO, I'D LOVE TO KNOW YOUR FEEDBACK.

I THINK THAT PROCESS, ALL THINGS CONSIDERED NOW THAT WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE NEW PROCESS WITH DRAFT DAY WOULD BE A, UM, UH, WOULD, IT'S A TIME TESTED.

WE DID IT FOR, UH, FIVE YEARS, BUT I DO THINK THIS WOULD SOLVE THE ONE ISSUE THAT I FELT THROUGH THE YEARS WITH THAT POLICY CUSTOMER TOBIK.

YES.

UM, BEING ON THAT, UH, TASK FORCE WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT.

THOSE, THOSE EXACT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS WERE, WERE ADDED.

AND AT THIS, WE, UH, WE HAD EVENTUALLY REGROUPED AND, AND DID ANOTHER POLICY.

BUT, UH, I'M IN SUPPORT OF, UH, MS. PARSLEY'S, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT AS WELL.

CUZ IT, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE A MORE STREAMLINED PROCESS AND YOU TAKE A LOT OF THE, I HATE TO USE THE WORD POLITICS OUT OF IT, BUT YOU, UH, ALSO DON'T PUT, UH, INDIVIDUALS, EVEN THOUGH THEY DID SHOW UP, UH, IT DID MAKE THEM FEEL, UH, A LITTLE ISOLATED IF THEIR NAME WASN'T CALLED.

AND AGAIN, THE, THE WHOLE IDEA ON THESE COMMISSIONS, AND I THINK MS. UH, BRADSHAW'S BROUGHT FORWARD, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE INCLUSIVE, THAT WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND THEN THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY OF, OF US DOING THAT.

BUT I THINK THIS WILL ALSO HELP US NARROW DOWN SOME OF THE APPLICANTS, AND THEN WE HAVE THAT PROCESS, AND THEN WE CAN BE ABLE TO BRING THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN, AND GO FROM THERE.

OKAY.

WELL, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE TO COUNSEL, JUST AS A SEQUENTIALLY, THE PROCESS WOULD BE, UH, THAT WE, UH, WE WOULD GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE MM-HMM.

WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED, AND THEN IT WOULD COME BACK FOR FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.

MM-HMM.

.

UH, AND THEN WE DO HAVE A VACANCY, UH, ON THE LIBRARY BOARD.

SO ONCE THAT POLICY HAS CHANGED THAT, WELL, THE NEXT STEP WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE UP, UH, THE APPOINTMENTS THAT WE WANNA MAKE TO EACH BOARD.

MM-HMM.

FROM, FROM OUR BODY.

AND THEN THE, THE LIBRARY BOARD WHO HAS, WHO HAS A CURRENT OPENING WOULD POST AND THEN CONVENE, UH, THE INTERVIEW PANEL.

AND THEN, SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE WITH THAT VACANCY, IF WE GO THROUGH THIS CHANGE WOULD BE A THREE MONTH PROCESS PROBABLY BEFORE WE FILLED THAT VACANCY, I'M GUESSING JUST BASED ON FIRST SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE, THEN THE NEXT MEETING FOR COUNSEL TO DECIDE WHO'S GONNA BE APPOINTED.

AND THEN THE, THEN THEY HAVE TO POST, THERE'S NOTICE, THEN THEY HAVE TO INTERVIEW, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK.

SO JUST FROM A SETTING EXPECTATIONS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE AWARE YET THAT WE HAVE A LIBRARY BOARD VACANCY.

SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD STREAMLINE IT A LITTLE BIT BY ALLOWING TO, ONCE THERE'S A VACANCY, ALLOWING US TO POST IT PRIOR TO, UH, AN, UH, COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE BEING APPOINTED.

YEAH.

WE COULD POST AFTER IT'S FINALLY PASSED.

SO IF IT'S UNANIMOUS, THEN IT COULD BE AS QUICK AS NEXT MEETING AND THEN BE POSTED.

BUT IT COULD BE DELAYED, BUT THAT'LL BE THIS BODY WHO DECIDES ON THAT.

RIGHT.

AND THEN, THEN MOVING FORWARD, WE CAN START THAT PROCESS AT ANY TIME.

THERE'S A VACANCY, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.

CORRECT.

THERE, THE REST OF THEM WOULD BE, WOULD GO FASTER.

CUSTOMER FORCE SCALE.

UM, I JUST WANNA APOLOGIZE TO STAFF FOR DOING ALL THAT WORK IN THE LAST ORDINANCE.

UM, I DO AGREE THAT THIS IS PROBABLY, NO, THIS IS A FASTER, BETTER WAY.

UM, I GUESS WE JUST HAD TO LEARN THINGS THE HARD WAY.

UM, AND SO I DO APPRECIATE STAFF'S HARD WORK IN LOOKING UP THE LEGAL ASPECTS AND CREATING THIS WHOLE ORDINANCE FOR US TO GO BACK.

BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I THINK THERE'S TIMES THAT WE JUST GOTTA LEARN AND WE GOTTA DO.

AND, UM, FOR US, WE REALIZED THAT THAT WAS NOT THE WAY.

AND SO, UM, MY HOPE IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE STAFF BRING THAT BACK.

YES.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

THAT WAS, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO DIRECT STAFF, TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE FOR THE POLICIES AND, UM, I MEAN, FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS' POLICY, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD HERE ON THE DIOCESE.

SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER FLORES KESLER.

DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION CUSTOMER.

YEAH.

JUST CLARIFICATION.

SO, UM, THE NUMBERS, WHY ARE WE GOING FROM THE REDUCTION OF FOUR TO THREE? I MEAN, WHAT'S GONNA, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THERE? IS IT HARDER TO GET FOUR PEOPLE? WE WERE A PANEL WERE WANTING, WE WERE WANTING TO HAVE THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE AS PART OF THE INTERVIEW PANEL.

MM-HMM.

THE DIRECTOR THAT IS RELATED TO THAT BOARD.

SURE.

AN CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WE PICK.

THAT'S THREE.

THAT'S ALL.

AND THERE USED TO BE FOUR PEOPLE BEFORE THAT IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS POLICY.

AND SO WHO WAS THE FOURTH CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF THE, THE COMMISSION.

THE BOARD.

AND I THINK THAT TAKING THE CHAIR OUT OF THE BOARD, UHHUH, MAKES IT LESS, NOT PLAYING FAVORITES.

OKAY.

IN MY OPINION.

SO JUST HAVING CITY MANAGER, A DIRECTOR, AND A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO INTERVIEW THE PEOPLE WHO APPLY.

OKAY.

FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE, ONCE

[03:20:01]

THE, UM, APPLICATIONS ARE RECEIVED AND WE REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS, THEN WE WILL SELECT THAT PANEL WILL SELECT WHO WILL BE INTERVIEWED.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I JUST WANTED THE CLARIFICATION.

SOUNDS, SOUNDS LIKE GOOD FORMULA FOR ME.

AND, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A, A COUNCIL PERSON ON THEIR, UH, YOU ALSO SEE THEIR VISION OF, OF NOT SO MUCH WIDER ROOM, BUT WHAT THEY CAN BRING.

AND THEN YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, DECIDING WHAT WE WANT FOR THE PARK OR THE LIBRARY.

YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHAT THAT INDIVIDUAL PERSON IS WANTING TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

SO IT HELPS IN THAT SENSE.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL SAY ON BEHALF OF THE FOURTH PERSON MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, THE THINKING WHEN WE ORIGINALLY PUT THAT PERSON IN WAS, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTS SORT OF THE POLITICAL SIDE, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC FACING SIDE.

WHEN THEY'RE THERE, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD REPRESENTS SORT OF THE MM-HMM.

, THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, UH, THAT'S REQUIRED.

SO THEIR, THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO THE PANEL WOULD BE GOOD.

UH, THE CITY MANAGER REPRESENTS THE BIG PICTURE FROM THE STAFF STANDPOINT.

I THOUGHT THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD, BECAUSE IT'S AN UNELECTED BOARD MADE SENSE BECAUSE THE CHAIR HAS TO, UM, HAS TO DEAL WITH THE DYNAMICS MM-HMM.

AND OF THE, SORT OF THE INTERIOR POLITICAL DYNAMICS.

AND SO HAVING, HAVING THEM THERE, UH, MADE SENSE TO ME.

AND THEN THERE WAS SORT OF A TWO RESIDENTS, IF YOU WOULD CALL OURSELVES RESIDENTS MM-HMM.

, TWO PEOPLE ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, UH, AND THE TWO PEOPLE ON THE STAFF SIDE.

AND I ALSO LOVED THE, UH, THE, THE, THERE BEING FOUR BECAUSE, UH, NO, ONE, TWO AND TWO IS A HANG.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE IN ORDER TO BRING FORWARD A NOMINEE.

WHEREAS IF, IF YOU DROP IT TO THREE, THEN THERE'S ONLY TWO.

SO IN THIS CASE, IT COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE TWO STAFF MEMBERS OR COUNCIL MEMBER, IT JUST, THERE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCE IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS THERE.

AND IT FORCES THE, THE PANEL TO BE MORE UNANIMOUS IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

THOSE ARE ALL THE REASONS, BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN PARTIALLY WAS SAYING, BUT THAT'S THE REASON THAT THAT WAS IN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO FOR ME, THAT'S A COMPROMISE TO GO FROM FOUR TO THREE.

I'M HAPPY WITH FOUR THE WAY IT IS.

SO.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP IS,

[33.  

Consider nominations for selection of Mayor Pro Tem. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor

]

UH, AGENDA ITEM 33.

CONSIDER NOMINATIONS FOR SELECTION OF MAYOR PROTE.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A UNIQUE ONE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A SITUATION WHERE THE LAST TWO MAYOR PRO TEMS HAVE BEEN ON THE BALLOT AND LOST.

SO THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CURSE.

SO LET'S GET THAT OUT IN THE OPEN, NO TARGET.

UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE CONSI, UH, UH, HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

UH, UH, OFTENTIMES THE, THE SITTING MAYOR PROTE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, THE, THE, THEIR SUCCESSOR.

WE OPEN IT UP FOR NOMINATIONS.

UH, I DID HAVE ONE NOMINATION THAT I WANTED TO MAKE, AND IT'S THE MAN WHO REP, UH, RAN THE MEETING IN MY STEAD LAST TIME.

UH, IN, IN, IN MY OPINION FROM TOBY IS, UH, I COULD GO ON AND ON, UH, ABOUT THE REASONS WHY, IN MY OPINION THAT HE'S THE CLEAR, UH, CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR PROTE.

UH, NUMBER ONE IS EXPERIENCE.

NUMBER TWO IS TEMPERAMENT.

UH, UH, NUMBER THREE IS RESPECT GARNERED FROM THE ENTIRETY OF THIS COUNCIL.

UH, AND, UH, UH, YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

UH, YOU COULD JUST, COULD JUST GO ON, UH, AND ON YOUR EXPERIENCE RUNNING THESE MEETINGS, UH, IN IT RECENTLY HAS BEEN, UH, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, AS A, A LIAISON TO THE MAYOR PRO TIM, UH, WOULD BE, OR, YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENT TO THE MAYOR, UH, WOULD BE PROBABLY THE BEST FOR KEEPING THE MEETINGS SHORT.

ALSO.

I THINK HE DID PRETTY GOOD.

SO, UH, UH, IF THERE ARE OTHER NOMINATIONS WE CAN MAKE THOSE, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL MAYOR, WHICH OB BE, IF YOU'D BE, UH, OPEN TO, UH, SERVING IN THAT ROLE.

UH, YES, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UH, I WOULD BE HONORED TO, TO SERVE AS MAYOR PROAM, UH, UH, IF, IF SELECTED AND, UM, KNOW THAT I WILL ALWAYS BE A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO, UH, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE.

AND IF SELECTED BY THE DIAS, I WILL TRULY, UH, HOLD UP THAT TITLE, UH, RESPECTFULLY.

AND, UM, IN, IF MY DENOMINATION DOES GO THROUGH, I, I DO APPRECIATE TO KNOW THAT I DO HAVE EARNED YOUR TRUST AND YOUR RESPECT ON THAT LEVEL.

AND KNOW THAT IF THERE'S EVER A TIME TO WHERE MAYOR YOU ARE OUT AND I HAVE TO CONDUCT THE MEETINGS, WE WILL CONDUCT THEM PROFESSIONALLY AND TIMELY FOR EVERYBODY.

UM, AND, AND WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD GLADLY ACCEPT THE NOMINATION.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

THANK YOU.

UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT NOMINATION? OR DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE? ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MICHAEL TOBIAS AS THE NEXT MAYOR PROTE.

SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.

SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER.

[03:25:01]

I COULDN'T TELL PARSLEY.

UH, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? UH, YOU'RE NOT UP FOR ELECTION THIS YEAR, SO I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BREAK.

I, I'M SAYING.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL OF US IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS.

OR I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS APPROPRIATE.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT

[34.  Appoint a representative to the CAPCOG Clean Air Coalition (CAC). ~ Jerry Hendrix, Interim City Manager]

UP.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 34.

APPOINT, UH, REPRESENTATIVE TO THE CAP COG CLEAN AIR COALITION.

UH, MR. HENDRICKS, THIS IS TO REPLACE, UH, THE OUTGOING COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO.

CORRECT.

UH, FOR THE RECORD, JERRY HENDRICKS, CENTRUM, CITY MANAGER.

THIS IS TO REPLACE, UH, MAYOR, FORMER MAYOR PRO TIM RIZZO'S PLACE ON THE JUDGE GENERAL ASSEMBLY FOR THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES CAL ALSO REPRESENTS US ON THAT.

SO IT'S, UH, THE COUNCILS WILL, WHO THEY'D LIKE TO PUT IN THAT PLACE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, JERRY.

ONE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A, THERE'S SOME KIND OF COMMITMENT REQUIRED TO ATTENDING, I THINK QUARTERLY MEETINGS.

SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

I THINK I HEARD FROM COUNCIL BELIEVE MEETING BELIEVE THEY MEET ONCE A MONTH, SECOND OR THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH.

CUSTOMER KEL, DO YOU REMEMBER IS, ARE THERE SOME, ARE THERE ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENTS ON THE MEETINGS? THERE ARE, CUZ WE'RE A VOTING ENTITY.

AND SO, UM, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS ANY MEETINGS.

I THINK AFTER THREE MEETINGS YOU LOSE YOUR VOTING RIGHTS.

AND SO YEAH, WHOEVER'S NOMINATED OR WHOEVER GOES, HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ATTEND THESE MEETINGS.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS BACKUP TOO.

SO IF, LIKE WE NOMINATE SOMEBODY AND THEY CAN'T MAKE IT, THEY WOULD JUST LET THE, THE STAND IN KNOW.

RIGHT.

UM, THERE ARE RULES ABOUT STUDYING THE, THE PROXY THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN ADVANCED NOTICE THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE FOR THAT PROXY TO BE VALID.

RIGHT.

AND THEN YOU SAID IT'S ONE MEETING PER MONTH AND THE MEETING IS IN AUSTIN? YES.

OKAY.

UM, UH, SO, AND IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT ON THE BOARD OF THE CAP COG, IT'S THE CLEAN AIR COALITION, WHICH IS A SUBSET OF THE CAP COG.

RIGHT.

AND THIS IS, UH, BUT IT'S A BIG ONE.

THIS IS A GENERAL ASSEMBLY, NOT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD.

OKAY.

SO THEY, THEY'RE BASICALLY LUNCHES.

RIGHT.

AND THEN, AND THEN YOU HAVE, I'M SORRY, THEY CAME OUT WRONG.

YEAH.

BUT THE CONTEXT OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY COMES TO HAVE A LUNCH.

UH, THERE ARE PRESENTATIONS MADE, THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OF VOTES, UH, AND THEN THEY GET TAKEN, UH, CORRECTLY.

CORRECT.

I WILL SAY IT'S, WHOEVER GOES SHOULD MAKE A POINT TO COME BACK AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

I, I SAY THAT, BUT I WENT TO THE LAST ONE AND I DID NOT SHARE THE POWERPOINT THAT I RECEIVED, BUT THAT HAD, THEY HAVE REALLY, REALLY GREAT INFORMATION IN IT.

AND THEY HAD LIKE, THE ROADS THAT ARE BEING, UM, BUILT IN, IN UNDER HAYES COUNTY IN GENERAL, SO WE COULD SEE NOT JUST, UM, HAYES, NOT JUST KYLE, BUT ALL OF HAYES COUNTY AS WELL AS AUSTIN, THEY HAVE A $4 BILLION, UM, ROAD PROJECT COMING UP.

AND THAT'S JUST IN THE DOWNTOWN 4 BILLION DOWNTOWN.

MM-HMM.

.

WOW.

BUT ANYWAYS, IT'S INTERESTING AND, AND I THINK WHOEVER GOES SHOULD COME BACK AND TRY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION OR AT LEAST SEND IT VIA EMAIL.

SO IT KEEPS US ALL APPRISED OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO THIS IS A PRETTY BIG COMMITMENT FROM A TIME STANDPOINT.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO, WHO WISHES TO, UH, VOLUNTEER TO SERVE IN THIS WAY? CUSTOMER SCA.

WHAT'S THE TIME AND THE DATES OF THOSE MEETINGS? I MEAN, THIS IS A VERY SCIENTIFIC SORT OF POSITION DEALING WITH THE AIR QUALITY, CLEAN AIR.

UH, YOU'LL BE TAKING INPUT AND PRESENTATIONS FROM THE SCIENTISTS TODAY, WHICH, WHICH I AM JERRY.

I KNOW THAT.

AND YOU'LL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM BASED ON, UM, THE PRIORITIES OF THE DISTRICT.

YOU REPRESENT THE CITY YOU REPRESENT AND, AND ADVOCATING FOR PROJECTS TO BE IN OUR AREA.

UM, BUT LIKE THE, THE MEETING AND THE PLACE, CUZ I, I DO WORK IN AUSTIN, SO I'M JUST SAYING, WOULD THIS FIT IN MY SCHEDULE, LIKE UP THERE? YEAH.

LET ME FIND THAT.

I KNOW THAT MEETING, I JUST MENTIONED LUNCHES.

I THOUGHT THIS NORTH AUSTIN WAS LIKE IN THE EVENING MAIN PLACE.

IT'S SYRIAN WORK HOURS.

IT'S A MIDDAY LUNCH, I BELIEVE IS, IT'S USUALLY 11.

IT'S UP IN NORTH AUSTIN.

YEAH.

CUSTOMER HEISER.

I'D BE DOWN FOR THIS.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? NOT WITH MY WORK SCHEDULE.

SORRY.

YEAH, SO, AND THEN THE OTHER, I, YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.

IT'S TO REMEMBER, SO THE, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN OUR CURRENT SEATS, THE CURRENT CHAIRS THAT WE'RE IN, WE DON'T REPRESENT EACH OTHER, WE REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

BUT WHEN WE APPOINT SOMEONE TO REPRESENT AS THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE, THE, YOU'RE THERE REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL, NOT THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU, THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU.

GOT YOU HERE.

AND THEN WE SEND OUT, SO THE, IT'S IMPORTANT ON CAMPO CAP COG AND, YOU KNOW, WHICHEVER OTHER BOARDS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SEND THOSE FOLKS OUT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE REPORTING BACK AND THE COMMUNICATION IS IMPORTANT, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER DOES REPRESENT US, UM, IS REALLY CHANNELING THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL WHILE THE, WHILE THAT THEY'RE THERE AND BRINGING PROPOSALS BACK TO US FOR, UH, SORT OF FOR ACTION.

SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO VOLUNTEER? ARE WE WAITING ON A DATES? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING DATES AND TIME SPECIFICALLY? YEAH.

WELL, THEY HAVE THEIR NEXT

[03:30:01]

MEETING AS BEING WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 14TH, SO DAMN UPDATE WEBSITE.

YEAH.

AT WHAT TIME AND WHERE THE TIME, UH, THAT WAS A SPECIAL MEETING TOO.

I THINK IT WAS LIKE AN AWARDS.

YES.

THE LAST, YEAH, THAT MEETING WAS AT THE AIRPORT.

HILTON.

I KNOW IT WAS AT 1130, BUT THEY USUALLY HAVE IT AT THEIR, THEIR BUILDING OVER IN NORTHEAST, NORTHWEST AUSTIN.

OKAY.

UM, SOUNDS INTERESTING.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I WORK IN LAKELINE AND I COULD GET AWAY FOR THE LUNCH HOUR, BUT IS IT AN HOUR OR IS IT TWO HOURS? PROBABLY A COUPLE HOURS.

I MEAN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE PROBABLY 30 MINUTES EARLY AND THEN DRIVE BACK 30 MINUTES.

SO THAT'S AN HOUR.

AND THEN, LIKE THIS LAST ONE WAS FROM 11 TO ONE, BUT THAT WAS TO EAT, GATHER, TALK.

AND THEN THE, SO YOU COULD ESSENTIALLY MISS THE FIRST HOUR MM-HMM.

.

SO I WOULD SAY IT'S ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO TO THREE HOURS.

AND THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO SEATS.

SO YOU, YOU HAVE ONE GENERAL SIMILE SEAT, AND SO NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR THE OTHER, I THINK I WAS ON IT MANY, MANY MOONS AGO.

UH, WHICH IS WHY I CAN ANSWER ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT.

UM, BUT WE, WE ONLY HAD ONE SEAT AT THAT TIME.

SO NOW WE HAVE, NOW WE HAVE TWO.

BUT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE TO HELP US DECIDE HERE.

WE DON'T WANT TAKE A VOTE.

I'M GIVE, I'M, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU, I'M GONNA, I'M I'M GONNA, AND THERE ARE TO YOU, THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE THAT WILL COME UP THROUGHOUT OPPORTUNITIES THERE WILL COME UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ABOUT TO APPOINT YOU, YOU KNOW, INTERVIEW COMMITTEES MM-HMM.

, YOU KNOW, FOR BASED ON A CHANGED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS POLICY.

UH, AND THERE, YEAH.

THOSE THINGS COME AND IT'S A THREE YEAR STRETCH.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN SCHEDULES CHANGE FOR THINGS TO CHANGE, UM, IN TERMS OF SERVICE.

SO THE ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, UH, ONE THAT, THAT HAS A BOARD AND THERE ARE SEATS.

WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A, UH, POLICYMAKER ON THAT BOARD, ALTHOUGH SAN MARCOS AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS DO.

MM-HMM.

, WE USED TO HAVE MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVING ON THAT BOARD, BUT IT BECAME, SO, UH, IT'S LIKE A WEDNESDAY MEETING TWICE A MONTH DURING THE DAY DOWN IN SAN MARCOS.

AND IT'S ALL ABOUT WATER.

SO IF YOU LOVE WATER, THERE'D BE AN OPPORTUNITY PROBABLY FOR US TO PUT ONE OF US.

ULTIMATELY, WE GAVE IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS SO DIFFICULT TO MAKE THE MEETINGS AND SO WE SENT OUR EXPERTS DOWN, UH, TO DO THAT.

BUT THAT'S ANOTHER BOARD THAT I SERVED ON AT ONE POINT THAT WE GAVE THAT UP.

BUT WE COULD BRING THAT BACK IF SOMEONE HAS A PASSION, UH, FOR OUR BIG WATER PROJECT.

CUSTOMER BRACHA.

DO WE NEED A MOTION? SO WE'RE IN AGREEMENT.

THEY FIGURED MM-HMM.

ALL, YEAH, WE FIGURED IT.

COUNCILMAN BRACHA.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT BEAR HEISER TO THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BRADSHAW.

SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, THAT WE APPOINT, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BE HEISER TO THE CAP COG CLEAN AIR COALITION.

IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL US IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

SEVEN TO ZERO.

[35.  [Postponed 12/6/2022] Consider and possible action to identify a date and location for the 2023 Council Visioning Workshop. ~ Amber Lewis, Assistant City Manager]

UH, THE FINAL ACTION IS CONSIDERED.

POS UH, OF THE NIGHT IS CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO IDENTIFY A DATE AND LOCATION OF THE 2023.

COUNCIL VISIONING WORKSHOP, MS. LEWIS.

GOOD, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL.

AMBER LEWIS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.

UH, THIS IS A FUN ONE.

UM, I EMAILED OUT TO YOU EARLIER LA UH, LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE, UM, FOUR COMMUNITIES, AND THEY ARE MCKINNEY, EL PASO, UM, SUGARLAND AND BROWNSVILLE.

AND WE, UM, IN THE PAST HAVE EVERY YEAR GONE TO DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT WE WANT TO COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO SEE AND, UH, LEARN FROM, BRING BACK IDEAS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO EMULATE HERE IN KYLE.

AND, UM, SO SOME OF THE PRIORITIES THAT, UM, STAFF HAS GATHERED, UH, THAT YOU, YOU, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS YEAR INCLUDE, UM, SENIOR CENTER, REC CENTER, COMMUNITY CENTER, SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, ALSO WE HAVE LOOKED AT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN OTHER COOL AMENITIES THAT, UH, COMMUNITIES MIGHT BE IMPLEMENTING THEIR, AND SO WE HEARD YOUR CHARGE AND WE IDENTIFIED THE FOUR COMMUNITIES THAT, UH, WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT.

UM, I DID PRESENT THEM AT THE LAST, UM, COUNCIL MEETING.

HAPPY TO DO THAT AGAIN.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, , I SPEAK COUNCIL MEMBER BRAD SHAKING HER HEAD.

I DO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN.

I DID, UM, DISSEMINATE THE, UH, POWERPOINT THAT WAS PRESENTED.

UM, ALL FOUR COMMUNITIES ARE GRAY, I THINK.

UM, WE CAN'T GO WRONG WITH ANY OF THE FOUR.

AND SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES AND WHY WE PICKED THEM, HAPPY TO, UM, TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD NEED FROM ME? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LEWIS? YOU KNOW, OF THE FOUR, WE HAVE GONE TO FRISCO BEFORE, WHICH IS A DALLAS AREA, SO THAT'S SOME SOMEWHAT SIMILAR LOCATIONALLY TO UH, UH, THE MCKINNEY PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE NOT, WE HAVE NOT GONE.

WHAT'S THAT? NO, I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.

UM, ARE WE, ARE WE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THE TEXAS AREA? WE DO HAVE TO STAY WITHIN TEXAS.

UH, UH, JENNIFER CAN HELP ME OUT WITH THAT.

[03:35:01]

I BELIEVE ACCORDING TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WE HAVE TO STAY IN THE STATE.

OKAY.

YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL FLOOR SCALE.

THANK YOU.

UM, I LIKE EL PASO.

I THINK EL PASO HAS A LOT TO OFFER AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO I WOULD BE AMENDABLE TO GOING TO EL PASO.

I DID SEE THEIR, UM, MUSEUM THAT I JUST WANNA GO THERE.

.

I MEAN IT, I LIKE EL PASO TOO, STRANGELY ENOUGH.

LIKE THE FOOD.

WELL, AND JUST BECAUSE IT'S SO UNIQUE COMPARED TO THE OTHER TRIPS WE'VE TAKEN.

SO IT'S A DIFFERENT SIZED TOWN.

IT'S A DIFFERENT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, CLIMATE.

I'M SURE THEY'VE GOT ISSUES SIMILAR TO OURS BEING ON THE WESTERN SIDE RELATED TO WATER.

AND, BUT THEN ALSO THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN MAKING THE NEWS FOR A LOT OF STATISTICS RELATED TO GROWTH AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LATELY THAT I FIND INTERESTING.

UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S HALFWAY TO CALIFORNIA FROM A DRIVE STANDPOINT.

SO EL PASO IS A MAJOR UNDERTAKING FOR STAFF AND FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO GO.

THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT INCREASING BY ONE DAY THE LENGTH OF THE TRIP TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.

BUT THAT ONE DAY WILL PROBABLY BE TAKEN OUT BY DRIVING A LOT FOR THE, IF WE CHOSE EL PASO.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY FLIGHTS.

YES.

THAT'S AN EIGHT HOUR DRIVE.

YEAH.

THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY BIG DRIVE FOR Y'ALL.

BUT, UH, THE, UH, THE STATE PLANNING CONFERENCE WAS THERE THIS YEAR AND MANY OF OUR PLANNING STAFF, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF AND OUR P AND Z BOARD MEMBERS GOT TO GO AND THEY CAME BACK ALL ENERGIZED.

THEY HAD SUCH A GOOD TIME THERE.

AND ALL OF THE IDEAS THAT THEY LEARNED FROM EL PASO, IT JUST KIND OF INSPIRED ME TO SUGGEST THAT THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE FOR Y'ALL TO VISIT.

WELL IF, IF IT CAN, IF WE CAN GET THAT TIME BACK BY FLYING, WHICH IS SUPER VALUABLE TO HAVING SUCH A LARGE GROUP.

AND THAT'S, THAT SOLVES THE ONLY REAL ISSUE I HAD WITH EL PASO WAS HOW FAR AWAY IT WAS.

SO WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? IS THERE AN AIRPORT THAT FLIES DIRECTLY INTO THERES YES.

YES.

THUMBS UP.

SAY LESS COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS.

YEAH.

UM, SPEAKING OF EL PASO, I, I REMEMBER WHEN MY WIFE TERESA WENT THERE FOR A, I THINK IT WAS FOR A CONVENTION AND SHE DIDN'T, SHE DID LEARN A LOT FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT OF HOW DIFFERENT THE CULTURES WERE AND HOW FAST THEY'RE GROWING.

UM, I TRY NOT TO PAY TOO MUCH OF THE MEDIA ABOUT THE NEWS OF ALL THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE.

THEY HAVE 'EM IN EVERY CITY.

UM, BUT YOU DID MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT SUGAR LAND, ABOUT HOW IT'S NOT SO MUCH CITY BASED, BUT THEY'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE COUNTY.

RIGHT.

YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING TO WHERE THAT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD FIT BECAUSE THE COUNTY'S REALLY INVOLVED MORE THAN THE CITY.

AND, AND THAT THAT WAS PRETTY, PRETTY INTERESTING TO HEAR.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SENIOR CENTER AS ASPECT OF THAT CITY.

AND I THINK THEY ARE PART OF THE COUNTY VERSUS THE CITY OWNING THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND I THINK WE'RE, WE ARE WANTING TO BE MORE THE PRIMARY AGENT OF THE SENIOR CENTER.

GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

DID ANY OF THE SELECTIONS THAT YOU SCREENED HAVE LIKE A HUGE GEOGRAPHIC BARRIER? WELL, LIKE I 35, SOMETHING THAT MATCHES HOW THEY'RE DOING IT TO BUILD IN A BALANCED WAY ALL OF THEIR ENTIRE CITY.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR OUR EYES TO, TO LOOK AT.

HOW ARE, HOW WOULD THEY BE, HOW ARE THEY DOING IT? CUZ LET'S SKIP BECAUSE THAT'S A HARD, THAT'S HARD TO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

HARD TO MAKE IT HOW TO YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

HOW TO MAKE IT FIT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT BARRIER THAT MAKES DECISIONS LOOK LIKE YOU'RE NOT DOING IT FOR EVERYONE.

BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE INTENTION, THAT'S JUST WHAT WE HAVE TO GET AROUND, AROUND THAT.

THAT'S IN OUR WAY.

YES, SIR.

SO I THINK FINDING THAT IS YOUR, UM, HOW DO I SAY IT? IT'S, IT'S, UH, THAT'S THE, UM, UH, YOU'RE, BUT YOU COME UP WITH BETTER WORDS.

.

.

I'LL JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN THE DIAMOND IN THE MAKE A SUGGESTION.

VICTORIA VARG ENDS UP IN MY MOUTH, , DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UM, EL PASO IS MY HOMETOWN AND SO I WAS EXCITED TO, UM, PRESENT THIS, UH, CITY FOR YOU AS AN OPTION.

UM, EL PASO IS SEPARATED BY THE MOUNTAINS.

MM-HMM.

.

SO I 10 RUNS PARALLEL TO THE MOUNTAINS.

SO IN, ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE THE MEXICAN BORDER ON ONE SIDE, AND THEN YOU HAVE I 10 AND A LITTLE SECTION OF THE CITY AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.

SO YOU DO, EL PASO DOES HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUNTAIN AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALSO A BORDERING CITY.

SO, SO I 10 IS THROUGH A I 10 GO CITY.

MY WIFE JUST TEXTED ME THAT MM-HMM.

.

SO I THINK SHE, SHE, SHE'S LISTENING.

UHHUH .

BUT, BUT MY THING IS THAT EL PASO HAS A LOT OF FEDERAL INVOLVEMENT.

SO THEY, I MEAN, IS THAT, YOU

[03:40:01]

KNOW, REALLY GONNA SHAPE THEIR MAKEUP BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO CLOSE TO TO THE BORDER.

TO THE BORDER, RIGHT.

YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S VERY UNIQUE.

BUT WHAT I LIKED ABOUT EL PASO AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THEY HAVE A NEW REC CENTER, THEY HAVE NEW LIBRARY AND THEY HAVE A NEW, UM, CHILDREN'S MUSEUM AS WELL THAT, UM, WE CAN LOOK AT HOW IT WAS FUNDED.

THEY HAVE A REALLY NICE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT CENTER THAT WAS NOT FUNDED BY A TURS.

UM, SO IT'S, THERE'S JUST UNIQUE THING.

AND THEY ALSO HAD A, UH, ROAD BOND AS WELL THAT WAS VERY SIMILAR IN SIZE TO THE ONE THAT KYLE JUST PASSED.

SO THOSE, THERE WAS SOME SIMILARITIES THERE.

EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE A MUCH LARGER CITY AND THEY'RE A BORDER CITY, I THINK THERE IS STILL SIMILARITIES.

UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP AMBER PLAN AND RESEARCH EVEN MORE AND GET YOU, UM, SOME GOOD CONTACTS AND YOU KNOW, WITH CITY OFFICIALS AND THEN OF COURSE WITH THE PLANNING TEAM AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S VERY RATION AND WE WILL BE GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.

YOU'LL HAVE SOME GOOD FOOD, I'M SURE.

ALL I MAKE A MOTION TO SELECT EL PASO AS THE DESTINATION FOR OUR WORKSHOP MOTION ABOUT MAYOR SECOND TOBY, CUSTOMER FLORES KALE.

SHE BEATS YOU.

YOU GOTTA BE FAST.

THEY WON'T LET, YOU GOTTA GET, THEY TIE OVER HERE A LOT.

YOU JUST HAVE TO JUMP IN, UH, UH, FOR THE DISCUSSION.

ALL HIS FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

JERRY MAY, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MOTION AND GET SOME CLARITY.

YOU ASKED US TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE, I BELIEVE, AND THAT THAT'S ALWAYS EXISTED AS A POLICY IN THE PAST.

SO DO YOU WANT US TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE OR A POLICY? UM, POLICY.

SORRY.

YEAH, THE SAME, SAME AS IT HAS BEEN.

SO YEAH, I GUESS I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST ONE READING AS OPPOSED TO TWO, WHICH WOULD HELP WITH THE QUICKNESS RIGHT.

UH, ISSUE.

SO ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO CLARIFYING THAT THAT IS POLICY? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION'S POLICY IS.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE GOT ONE MORE.

IF WE COULD JUST CLARIFY ON THE DATE.

CUZ FOR MY WORK, I'VE KIND OF LIKE PUT IT IN LIKE TOMORROW MORNING.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO, UH, DATES ARE SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER.

UM, LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE WE WENT IN THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK OF FEBRUARY.

UM, WELL TO, ALL RIGHT, SO TO ME THE KEY IS THE HIRING OF THE CITY MANAGER.

WE WERE TOLD HOW MANY DAYS FROM THE EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT BEFORE WE WOULD BE SELECTING.

I CAN'T RECALL THAT NUMBER, BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE, UH, HE OR OR SHE IN THE SEAT PRIOR TO ANY PRIOR TO MARCH 1ST.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THEY, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE EMPLOYED ELSEWHERE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE NOTICE.

WE HAVE 30 DAYS NOTICE, SO THAT'S 60.

UM, INTERVIEW PROCESS.

THAT'S ANOTHER 30.

SO IT'S PROBABLY, WE'RE PROBABLY 90 DAYS OUT, I WOULD SAY REALISTICALLY.

AND THEN WE START OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP LIKE THE 1ST OF APRIL.

RIGHT.

SO MAYBE, MAYBE MARCH 1ST.

I KNOW THAT'S LATER THAN WHAT WE WOULD LOVE, BUT JUST GIVES US A OH, I GET UP.

I WAS JUST GIVING A GENERALITY A MARCH TIMEFRAME WAS LINEUP WITH SOME, UM, ACTIVITIES.

THEY JUST RECENTLY, UH, BUILT, UH, A STADIUM FOR THE CHIHUAHUAS.

THEY'RE, UH, MINOR, MINOR LEAGUE, MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM.

SO THEY MIGHT HA MIGHT BE PLAYING AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ENJOY A GAME WHILE WE'RE THERE.

HOW MANY, HOW, YEAH.

THE FIRST WEEKEND OF SPRING BREAK, HOW MANY DAYS ARE Y'ALL THINKING ABOUT ON THIS TRIP? SOME OF US HAVE LIKE REAL FULL-TIME WORK SCHEDULES.

SURE.

SO, AND, AND ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE BIGGEST COMMITMENT IN THE YEAR.

I DON'T HAVE FREE TIME JUST TO RIGHT, RIGHT.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, SIR.

THIS, THIS IS JAM-PACKED.

WE WILL HAVE YOU GOING AND LEARNING AND TOURING AND I MEAN, Y'ALL CAN ATTEST TO LAST YEAR WE WERE JUST RUNNING, WE WERE LATE TO EVERYTHING.

SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO SEE US, WHAT I MEANT IS LIKE HOW MANY PHYSICAL, LIKE, INCLUDING THE, IS IT A SATURDAY, SUNDAY, FRIDAY? THOSE ARE EASIER FOR ME TO YES.

FRIDAY DISAPPEARS TO DISAPPEAR.

FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY.

THERE WAS ALSO A DISCUSSION ABOUT TRAVELING ON THURSDAY MAYBE MM-HMM.

THURSDAY, YOU KNOW, DINNER ON THURSDAY NIGHTS AND THEN FRIDAY WE WOULD START THE TOURING AND DOING ALL THE EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS.

SATURDAY DO, UM, DO MAYBE SOME TOUR IN THE MORNING, AFTERNOON, START OUR VISIONING, CONTINUING THE VISIONING ON SUNDAY MORNING AND THEN TRAVEL BACK ON SUNDAY.

THAT'S, THINK THAT IF I COULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION ON ALL THAT, BECAUSE OF OUR PAST YEARS, WE, HOW WE DID RUN LATE ON EVERYTHING.

MM-HMM.

, I WOULD SUGGEST A THURSDAY WOULD BE A TRAVEL DAY.

MM-HMM.

A FRIDAY WOULD BE JUST ALL, LET'S GO SEE THE CITY AND, AND SATURDAY IT'S JUST EIGHT O'CLOCK, LET'S JUST GET TO WORK KIND OF THING.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE WOULD TOUR OTHER PLACES, BUT WE HAD SO MUCH TO DISCUSS.

MM-HMM.

I REMEMBER WAS GETTING CLOSE TO LIKE SIX O'CLOCK AT NIGHT WHEN WE WERE JUST BARELY FINISHING AND WE, WE STARTED IT LIKE RIGHT AT ONE.

SO I I,

[03:45:01]

THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE YEAH.

TRAVEL THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SEE ALL THE EVENTS.

SATURDAY WE HAVE OUR WORKSHOP SUNDAY WE FOLLOW UP BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO CATCH OUR FLIGHTS BACK.

AND THAT'S ALREADY GONNA BE ABOUT FIVE HOURS THERE.

YEAH.

MM-HMM.

AND I'M, I'M ON THE SAME SCHEDULE YOU ARE.

UM, MR. DAVIS AND I HAVE TO PUT IN SIX WEEKS, SIX MONTHS AHEAD AND ALL THAT STUFF.

SO, SO SPRING BREAK IS THE SIXTH THROUGH, I'M SORRY? SPRING BREAK IS THE 13TH THROUGH THE 17TH FOR H C I S D.

SO I WAS GONNA, SO THAT WE DON'T GET ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE WEEKENDS.

UH, IT'S MY 15TH ANNIVERSARY, SO I'M PLANNING A VACATION, UH, UH, OVER THAT TIME.

BUT, UH, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THE WEEKEND BEFORE, WHICH WOULD BE THE THURSDAY, THE SECOND THROUGH SUNDAY, THE 5TH OF MARCH, 22, 20 23, THURSDAY THE SECOND, AND THEN COMING BACK ON SUNDAY THE FIFTH.

YES.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT, THAT STEER'S CLEAR OF SPRING BREAK.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

WHICH I KNOW THAT STAFF WOULD'VE PROBABLY APPRECIATE AS WELL.

SO YEAH.

CAN WE, I I CAN WE TRAVEL LATER IN THE AFTERNOON? MM-HMM.

? UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL DO IT AS MUCH TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR WORK SCHEDULES AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

RIGHT.

AND NOTHING, NOTHING TO, IF YOU HAD TO GET THERE LATE BECAUSE OF WORK ON THURSDAY.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

IT WOULD YOU MISS THAT YOU MADE, YOU WOULDN'T, WE WOULDN'T MISS ANY IMPORTANT THINGS.

I AGREE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MAYBE WE CAN FLESH THAT OUT AND THEN JUST RUN SOME TRAPS AND MAKE SURE THOSE DATES CONTINUE TO GOT IT WORK AS WE WE LOOK INTO IT.

WE'LL GIVE SOME REPORTS IN THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS LATER ON.

SOME UPDATE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, SO WE HAVE TWO THAT WOULD BE THE DATES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT OR YOU'RE JUST GONNA CONTACT, UH, WHY DON'T BEFORE, WHY DON'T WE GET, UH, GIVE STAFF A CHANCE TO RUN IT THROUGH STAFF, CUZ STAFF HAS TO CONSIDER THOSE DATES AS WELL.

MAKE SURE, MAKE SOME CALLS, JUST CHECK, MAKE SURE ON YOUR END A DAY OR TWO AVAILABILITY AND THEN WE CAN PUT IT IN INK SO THAT I DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK FOR A DAY OFF AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE REALIZE TOMORROW OR SOMETHING THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THOSE DATE EXACTLY.

THE WEEK BEFORE RIGHT.

WOULD BE FEBRUARY 20.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO IF YOU COULD JUST RUN SOME TRAPS, MAKE SURE THOSE DATES LOOK REALLY GOOD.

MM-HMM.

, AND THEN LET COUNCIL KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN WE CAN BE MORE, WE CAN KEEP YOU UPDATED THROUGH EMAIL AS WELL.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

[X.  Executive Session]

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU.

WE ONCE HAD A TRADITION OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEMBER WHO SITS DOWN, HAS TO READ THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THAT TRADITION SORT OF HAS PASSED, BUT I WANT TO BRING THAT BACK.

I THINK IT ACTUALLY IS KIND OF COMING BACK UP.

UM, SO COUNCILMAN, HE, YOU'RE THE LAST ONE HERE.

UH, YOU'RE ALSO THE RECENTLY ELECT.

YOU HAVE TO READ OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION LANGUAGE.

SO YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO READ A, IT'S AGENDA ITEM 36.

YOU HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE PARAGRAPH AND THEN YOU HAVE TO READ POINT NUMBER ONE AND POINT NUMBER FOUR, AND THEN WE'LL BE AN EXEC.

SO ON 36 YOU READ THE FIRST BIG PARAGRAPH, THEN YOU READ POINT NUMBER ONE AND THE SUB SUBPOINT, AND THEN YOU READ POINT NUMBER FOUR AND THE THREE SUBPOINTS.

SUCH AN HONOR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, .

ALL RIGHT.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 5 51, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS FROM TIME TO TIME IS DEEMED NECESSARY.

DURING THIS MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL MAY CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO ANY LAWFUL EXCEPTION CONTAINED IN CHAPTER 5 51 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, INCLUDING ANY OR ALL THE FOLLOWING TOPICS.

NUMBER ONE, PENDING OR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION OR TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0 7 1.

AND, UM, NUMBER FOUR, CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 51 0 8 7 TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE TO DELIBERATE REGARDING THE OFFER OF ECONOMIC EX INCENTIVES TO ONE OR MORE BUSINESS, BUSINESS PROSPECTS THAT THE CITY SEEKS TO HAVE, LOCATE, STAY, OR EXPAND IN OR NEAR THE CITY.

I'M GLAD EVERYONE STUCK AROUND FOR THAT.

HMM.

RESTROOM BRIEF.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU BEAR FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OH, UH, YES.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, PROJECT JASMINE, PROJECT LASERED LEMON AND PROJECT CRYSTAL CLEAR.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION TO RECONVENE.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

WE, WE ARE RECONVENED, OR I SHOULD SAY I'M CALLING THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

THERE WAS NO ACTION TAKEN DURING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THERE WILL BE NO ACTION TAKEN

[37.  

Take action on items discussed in Executive Session.

  • Authorize the City Manager to execute a Chapter 380 agreement with Project Jasmine. ~ Victoria Vargas, Director of Economic Development
]

NOW.

UH, LAST, UH, LAST ITEM, UH, AGENDA.

ITEM 37 IS TO TAKE ACTION ON ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT WITH PROJECT, UH, JASMINE.

THIS IS FOR, UH, SPOON AND FORK, UH, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HAYES COUNTY.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL FLORES KELL.

IS THEIR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IS IN FAVOR, SAY

[03:50:01]

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.

MOTION TO ADJOURN? NO SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE.