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[I. Call Meeting to Order]
RIGHT.THE TIME IS 7:04 PM IT IS TUESDAY, JANUARY THE 20TH, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
THE MINUTES.MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL MINUTES FOR MAY 16TH, AND ALSO JUNE THE SIXTH, INCLUDING THE SPECIAL MEETING ON JUNE THE SIXTH AS WELL.
SECOND, MOTION BY, UH, MAYOR PROAM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ASHLEY, THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW, THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH THREE.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
MOTION CARRIES SEVEN, SEVEN TO ZERO.
[III. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
COMMENTS, PERIOD.AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO, PLEASE DO SO.
WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
UH, I HAVE ONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK, UH, UH, DOMINGO CASTELLA COUNSEL.
MY COMMENTS TODAY HAS TO DO WITH THE FORTHCOMING, UH, ELECTION ON VERSE SEVENTH.
AS SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY ANNOUNCED YOUR CANDIDACY FOR SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL POSITIONS, MAY I RECOMMEND THAT A FREE OPEN FORUM BE UTILIZED FOR MEETING ALL CANDIDATES.
THE FORUM SHOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS USED BY THE CITY HALL TO MEET THE PROSPECTIVE CANDIDATES FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION.
I KNOW THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS ONE OF THE MAJOR MEDIAS BEING USED TODAY, BUT I BELIEVE FACE-TO-FACE TYPE OF COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN CANDIDATES AND BORDERS IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS OF COMMUNICATIONS.
USING THIS METHOD, THE BORDERS CAN GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE CANDIDATES IN RESPECT OF THE FOLLOWING, HOW THEY HAVE, HAVE MET OR PLAN TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZENS.
THEY REPRESENT THE CANDIDATES INTERPERSONAL COMMUNICATION SKILLS, THEIR EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND, THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE DECISIONS, DECISIONS IN RAPID, RAPID, EXPANDING ECONOMY.
COLIN IS GROWING AT A DEMANDING PACE.
WE, WE, WE MUST BE PREPARED TO MEET THE ECONOMIC, ECONOMIC, FINANCIAL, ANY ENVIRONMENTAL DEMANDS OF THE FUTURE.
WE CAN DO SO WITH THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSONNEL, AND THAT IS, UH, CAN BE PERFORMED BY HAVING THIS OPEN FORUM.
AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'D USE THE SAME THING FOR THE CITY MANAGEMENT POSITION.
VERY GOOD, DIDN'T WE? THANK YOU.
UH, THAT IS ALL THE FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
UH, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THIS AND COMMENTS, UH, I'M GOING TO, UM, TAKE SOME PRIVILEGE NOW AND RECOGNIZE MAYOR PRO.
UH, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, IT WAS VERY CHAOTIC.
WE WERE IN A RUSH, UH, TO GET THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET THE AUDIENCE KNOW AND CITY KNOW, WE STARTED A NEW CHAPTER IN OUR CITY, AND I WANTED TO FORMALLY INTRODUCE OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, MR. BRIAN LANGLEY.
UH, WE CAME FROM THE CITY OF BURTON.
AND LAST, UH, MEETING WAS YOUR FIRST MEETING.
AND OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, UH, WISH I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN TO JUST RECKON UP.
I JUST WANNA SAY WELCOME TO THE CITY.
WE'RE VERY, UH, HAPPY THAT YOU'RE HERE.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR YOUR VISION AND YOUR DIRECTION AND LEADERSHIP THAT YOU'RE GONNA GIVE FOR OUR CITY.
I WANTED TO SAY WELCOME TO YOU AND ALSO WANTED TO SAY TO JERRY HENDRICKS, SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR EXPERTISE DURING THE TIME WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR OUR NEW CITY MANAGER.
SO, I WANTED TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DID.
AND AGAIN, MR. LANGLEY, WELCOME TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
[IV. Agenda Order]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AGENDA ORDER.IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO REQUEST ANY OF THE, THESE ITEMS TO BE REORDERED? ALL RIGHT.
[5. Juneteenth Proclamation. ~ Michael Tobias, Mayor Pro Tem]
ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, JUNETEENTH PROCLAMATION.ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGAIN, IT'S ALWAYS AN HONOR TO DO THESE.
SO, LAST NIGHT WHEN I WAS GOING OVER THE AGENDA, I HAPPENED TO HAVE THE TV ON AND WE'RE WATCHING CNN, AND THEY HAD A HUGE CELEBRATION ON THE TV OF, UH, CONCERTS, UH,
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ACROSS THE COUNTRY.MY DAUGHTER CAME DOWNSTAIRS AND SHE GOES, DAD, OOH, IS THAT A CONCERT? I SAID, NO, HONEY, IT'S A JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION.
THEY'RE IN NEW YORK, THEY'RE IN WASHINGTON.
SO I GAVE HER A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY OF WHAT IT WAS, AND SHE SAYS, WOW, THAT'S COOL.
AND THEN SHE SAW ONE OF HER FAVORITE, UH, FEMALE ARTISTS DURING THE SONG AND STUFF, AND SHE WAS KIND OF DANCING.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHO IT WAS, CUZ I, I STILL LISTEN TO PRINCE.
AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW WHO IT WAS, BUT, UM, UH, I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, TAKE A PAGE OUT OF THE PEACE AND PROGRESS PROGRAM THAT I ATTENDED LAST FRIDAY, WHICH WAS VERY, VERY GOOD.
WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS.
AND SO, REAL BRIEFLY, I WANT TO ASK THIS QUESTION TO THE AUDIENCE, AND THIS IS AGAIN FROM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THERE, THERE, THE WORD FREEDOM HAS BEEN USED BY SO MANY TO SYMBOLIZE JUNETEENTH.
SO I WANT TO ASK THE AUDIENCE, JUST FOR YOURSELF, WHAT WORD WOULD YOU SYMBOLIZE JUNETEENTH? JUST THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE.
WHAT WORD WOULD YOU UTILIZE AS JUNETEENTH? SOME OF THE RESPONSES THAT WERE FERMENTING WITH THE MINTY PROGRAM WAS EMANCIPATION.
WORDS WERE TRUTH, UNDERVALUED, OVERLOOKED, AWARENESS UNCHAINED.
AND ONE OF THE RESPONSES WAS FINALLY OBSERVING HOLIDAYS SUCH AS JUNETEENTH, MLK DAY ON A NATIONAL LEVEL IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US AND OUR COUNTRY, AND THOSE WHO CELEBRATE BECAUSE IT TRULY IMPASSES AN INCLUSIVE SPIRIT AND AFFORDS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE, BRING AWARENESS TO THOSE WHO WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT THE TRUE HISTORY OF THESE SIGNIFICANT HOLIDAYS.
GENTLEMEN, IT IS IMPORTANT, REALLY VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS, TO SPEAK UP TO THE HEART, AND SOMETIMES VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTHS.
SUPPORT MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITIES UNDERSTAND THE STRUGGLES, THE CHALLENGES, YET EMBRACE THEIR DIFFERENCES, THE VALUES AND BELIEFS, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME WE ARE CELEBRATING THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THEIR GOALS.
THAT IS HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, MY FRIENDS.
THAT IS HOW WE RESPECT EACH OTHER.
THAT IS HOW WE TEACH THE NEXT GENERATION, LIKE MY DAUGHTER YESTERDAY, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE HOLIDAYS LIKE JUNETEENTH.
SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS JUNETEENTH ALSO KNOWN AS FREEDOM, OR IN IN PASS PAST NATION DATE, CELEBRATES THE 157TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR.
JUNETEENTH IS A HOLIDAY THAT COMMEMORATES THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE ABOLISHMENT OF SLAVERY TO TEXAS IN JUNE OF 1865.
THIS OCCURRED 901 DAYS AFTER THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION WAS ISSUED BY PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
AND WHEREAS THE FOLLOWING, LET ME USE MY GLASSES HERE, WAS READ IN GALVESTON, TEXAS ON JUNE 19TH, 1865 BY GENERAL GORDON GRANGER.
THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS ARE INFORMED THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH A PROCLAMATION FROM THE EXECUTIVE OF THE UNITED STATES, THAT ALL SLAVES ARE FREE.
THIS INVOLVES AN ABSOLUTELY EQUALITY OF PERSONAL RIGHTS AND RIGHTS OF PROPERTY BETWEEN FORMER MASTERS AND SLAVES.
AND THE CONNECTION OF THE HERETO OF EXISTING BETWEEN THEM BECOMES THE, BETWEEN THE EMPLOYER AND THE HIRED LABOR.
THE FREE MEN ARE ADVISED TO REMAIN QUIETLY AT THEIR PRESENT HOMES AND WORK FOR WAGES.
THEY ARE INFORMED THAT THEY WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO COLLECT AT MILITARY POSTS, AND THEY WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED AND HONEST NEITHER THERE OR ANYWHERE.
AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH COMMEMORATES AFRICAN-AMERICAN FREEDOM AND EMPHASIZES EDUCATION AND ACHIEVEMENT, IT IS A DAY, A WEEK, AND SOME AREAS A MONTH MARKED WITH CELEBRATIONS, GUEST SPEAKERS, PICNICS, AND OF COURSE FAMILY GATHERINGS.
IT IS A TIME FOR REFLECTION AND REJOICING.
IT IS A TIME FOR ASSESSMENT, SELF-IMPROVEMENT, AND FOR PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.
IN CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE OF ALL RACES, NATIONALITIES, AND RELIGIONS ARE JOINING HANDS TRUTHFULLY, ACKNOWLEDGE A PERIOD IN OUR HISTORY THAT SHAPED AND CONTINUED TO INFLUENCE OUR SOCIETY AS IT IS TODAY, SENSITIZED TO CONDITIONS AND EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS.
ONLY THEN WE CAN MAKE SIGNIFICANT AND LASTING IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR SOCIETY.
AND WHEREAS IN THE WORDS OF FORMER TEXAS REPRESENTATIVE AL EDWARDS, WHO, UH, WHO AUTHORED HOUSE BILL 10 16, MAKING TEXAS THE FIRST STATE WITH JUNETEENTH AS AN OFFICIAL STATE HOLIDAY
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EVERY YEAR, WE MUST REMIND SUCCESS, SUCCESSFUL GENERATIONS, THAT THIS IS AN EVENT TRIGGERED AS A SERIES OF EVENTS THAT ONE BY ONE DEFINES THE CHALLENGES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF SUCCESSIVE GENERATIONS.THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS HOLIDAY.
AND WHEREAS TWO DAYS AFTER PASSING THE HOUSE REPRESENTED BY LARGE MAJORITY ON THE 17TH DAY OF 20 JUNE, 2021, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SIGNED A UNANIMOUS BIPARTISAN EFFORT OF THE SENATE CHAMBER CREATING THE JUNETEENTH NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE DAY ACT.
AND THEREFORE IT BE PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF KYLE THAT THE 19TH DAY OF JUNE SHALL BE CELEBRATED AS JUNETEENTH OR EMANCIPATION DAY IN RECOGNITION, IN RECOGNITION OF JUBILEE DAY AND THE SPIRIT OF JUNETEENTH THAT CELEBRATES AFRICAN-AMERICAN FREEDOM, EDUCATION AND ACHIEVEMENT, WHILE ENCOURAGING CONTINUOUS SELF-DEVELOPMENT AND RESPECT FOR ALL CULTURES SIGN ON THIS DAY.
AGAIN, I APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYBODY'S, UH, SUPPORT LAST FRIDAY.
IT WAS GREAT CONVERSATIONS, UH, WHEN I ATTENDED THERE, AND IT WAS VERY, VERY, UH, MEANINGFUL FOR ME TO CONTINUE TO HEAR SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT'S RELATED TO OUR CITIES AND, AND ACROSS OUR COUNTRY AND, AND THE EDUCATION ALSO FROM THE EDUCATION STANDPOINT LEVEL AND SO FORTH.
SO, I, I HAVE HOPE THIS WAS ANOTHER WORD, HOPE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD AS A SOCIETY IN RESPECT EACH OTHER.
TIM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT? UH, IF NOT, WE WILL, UH, LOVE TO INVITE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD FOR A PHOTOGRAPH, UH, COMMEMORATING JUNETEENTH IN THIS PROCLAMATION TO DO SO.
AND WE'LL TAKE THAT PHOTOGRAPH NOW.
ARE WE, YEAH, IF Y'ALL WILL ALL GET TOGETHER AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE, UH, SO WE CAN TAKE YOU ALL DOUBLE DOUBLE IT.
[6. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding Library Board activities. ~ Colleen Tierney, Director of Library Services]
STEP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.RECEIVE A REPORT AND HOLD A DISCUSSION REGARDING LIBRARY BOARD ACTIVITIES.
MS. TIERNEY, COUNCIL COUNTY DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.
FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE MARY LANDRUM, OUR VICE CHAIR HERE FOR, UH, TO GIVE THE LIBRARY BOARD REPORT FOR YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I SERVE AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD.
I AM HERE TO PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE, UH, FROM THE BOARD, BUT BEFORE DOING SO, I ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE
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JESSICA ROBINSON, WHO SERVES AS SECRETARY FOR THE BOARD.SO, UM, TO START OFF THE MISSION AND SOME OF THIS I'M GONNA, UH, READ, UH, BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I GET THIS CORRECT.
SO, THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, IS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS A RESOURCE FOR INFORMATIONAL, EDUCATIONAL, RECREATIONAL AND CULTURAL ENRICHMENT.
THESE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED FOR, UM, PATRONS OF ALL AGES AND BACKGROUNDS TO SUPPORT LITERACY AND KNOWLEDGE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TASKED THE LIBRARY BOARD WITH ADVISING YOU AND MS. TIERNEY, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE, UH, KAI LIBRARY, UM, UH, ADVISING, AS WELL AS PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PROPER REGULATION AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE LIBRARY.
THE LIBRARY BOARD MEETS WITH MS. TIERNEY ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON CURRENT DIRECTION THE LIBRARY IS TAKING AND DISCUSS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROPER ADMINISTRATION OF THE LIBRARY.
SO, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THIS SLIDE, HERE'S THE LIST OF THE SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS AND THEIR APPOINTED TERMS. IN PART, THE REASON THAT WE HAVE THIS, CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THANK YOU.
IS TO SHOW YOU THAT FOUR, UM, THERE ARE FOUR NEW MEMBERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, THAT WERE APPOINTED BY THIS CITY COUNCIL THIS PAST YEAR.
MS. TIERNEY, UH, WAS ALSO HIRED THIS LAST YEAR, AND HAS BEEN IN THIS ROLE FOR ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS.
GIVEN THE NUMBER OF NEW MEMBERS AND OUR NEW DIRECTOR, THE BOARD FOCUSED ITS ATTENTION ON DEVELOPING AN ORIENTATION PACKET TO SUCCESSFULLY ONBOARD MEMBERS.
MS. HAROLD, WHO IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT SHE IS ONE OF OUR MEMBERS, TOOK THE LEAD ON THIS TASK AND DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH A COPY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE I HAD TO PROVIDE THAT IN ADVANCE.
THE ORIENTATION PACKET CONTAINS LINKS TO SPECIFIC WITH PAGES COVERING IMPORTANT TOPICS TO PROPERLY ONBOARD A NEW MEMBER.
IT WALKS THE MEMBER THROUGH THE CITY CODE ORDINANCES, THE JOB DESCRIPTION, THE LIBRARY'S LONG RANGE PLAN, AND ITS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WHICH TAKES ME TO THE NEXT TASK.
THIS BOARD HAS FOCUSED ON REVIEWING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
SO MS. UH, SLIDE SIX IS NOT MM-HMM.
MS. TIERNEY NO, UH, NOTICED THAT SOME OF THE LIBRARY'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HAVE NOT BEEN REVIEWED FOR A WHILE, AND IN SOME CASES OVER A DECADE.
SO SHE TASKED THE BOARD TO REVIEW THESE DOCUMENTS, TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON BEST PRACTICES WITHIN THE LIBRARY INDUSTRY ACROSS THE NATION.
WHILE KEEPING IN MIND HOW COVID 19 CHANGED SOME OF THESE PRACTICES, WE HAVE REVIEWED FOUR, UM, DOCUMENTS AND ARE QUICKLY MOVING TO THE REMAINING SLIDES.
SO, IN CLOSING, JUST WANNA SAY THAT IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE THE CITY OF CA, UH, OF KYLE IN THIS CAPACITY.
WE, THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, ENJOY WORKING WITH MS. TIERNEY AND LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE, IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO ACCOMPLISHING THE GOALS ESTABLISHED IN 2023 TO ENSURE THE PROPER ADMINISTRATION OF THE LIBRARY RESOURCES.
WE'RE READY TO SERVE THIS, UH, CITY COUNCIL IN ANY CAPACITY AS NEEDED.
I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
UM, THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DID.
I, I REMEMBER SEEING YOU LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE DOING THE, UH, BACK TO SCHOOL EVENT, WHEN YOU'RE READING TO THE CHILDREN OUT THERE TO REALLY EXCITED ME SEEING, UH, THAT WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WERE REALLY INVOLVED IN VOLUNTEERING, UH, IN, IN THESE EVENTS.
ANY KIND OF NEW PLANS THAT YOU, UH, ARE COMING UP WITH THAT YOU KNOW OF, UH, FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR FOR THIS FALL? UM, UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE ARE, UM, TALKING ABOUT, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE MAIN PRIORITY IS REVIEWING ALL THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
UH, ESPECIALLY WITH, UH, MS. TIERNEY BEING, UH, FAIRLY NEW IN HER ROLE.
I THINK IT'S GIVING ALL OF US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK, UH, AT HOW THE LIBRARY, UH, WORKS.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE COVID 19 DID CHANGE A LOT OF WAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE ACCESSING INFORMATION.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES REFLECT THAT.
SO THAT'S RIGHT NOW THE, UH, THE PRIORITY.
BUT OF COURSE, LIKE WITH THE BUDGET RECENTLY, WE, UM, ASSISTED MS. TIERNEY IN LOOKING AT THAT TO SEE IF, UM, IF NOT THAT, IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE, BUT JUST ASSISTING HER IN WHATEVER WAY WE, UM, WE CAN.
YEAH, CUZ THAT, THAT IS TRUE, I THINK WITH A LOT OF THINGS WITH, WHEN IT CAME TO THE PANDEMIC.
I THINK THE NEW TERM NOW IS WE'RE, WE'RE NO LONGER BEING FLEXIBLE.
WE HAVE TO LEARN TO BE ADAPTABLE, ADAPTABLE TO THE CHANGES THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAME TO VIRTUAL LEARNING, WHEN IT CAME TO, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S LEARNING HOW TO DO THAT AGAIN.
BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR
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ALL YOUR HARD WORK.UM, TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIA SAID, THANK YOU AND THANK YOU TO THE BOARD.
UM, THESE ARE VOLUNTEER POSITIONS AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ANYBODY WHO TAKES THE TIME TO JOIN A BOARD.
UM, YOU GUYS HAVE A, A LOT OF EVENTS, SOME REALLY, REALLY GREAT EVENTS.
MY CONCERN IS HOW DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF WHO YOU GUYS GO THROUGH FOR YOUR, TO, YOU KNOW, TO ADVERTISE OR TO GET THE EVENTS OUT THERE, BUT, UM, I, I'M GUILTY OF LIKE, LOOKING AT IT LATER AND BEING LIKE, OH, THIS HAPPENED AND THIS HAPPENED.
OR I THINK, IS THERE STILL LIKE A POKEMON AND I ONLY KNOW ABOUT POKEMON CUZ MY SON IS A BIG FAN OF IT MM-HMM.
UM, BUT IF, IF STUFF LIKE THAT, IF WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT EVEN MORE, I THINK THIS LIBRARY COULD BE EVEN EVEN BETTER.
UM, AND WE HAVE A GREAT LIBRARY, BY ALL MEANS.
BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS, IS MORE, UM, PARTICIPATION FROM THE RESIDENTS.
AND I, MY GUT INSTINCT TELLS ME THAT THEY JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENING.
IF YOU GUYS WANT ME TO REPOST, I CAN REPOST.
UM, I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY WITH BRIAN ABOUT HOW CAN WE ADVERTISE IN DIFFERENT WAYS, UM, SO IT'S NOT ALL JUST SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL.
SO IF THE BOARD CAN COME UP WITH THOSE IDEAS BY ANY, ANY MEANS NECESSARY, UM, I WOULD BE OPEN TO, UH, LISTENING TO THAT.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT TO THE BOARD AND FOR US TO DISCUSS.
I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB AND THEY PUT A CALENDAR EVERY SINGLE MONTH OF ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF INFORMATION IS SHARED VIA SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT AS COMMENTED EARLIER, NOT EVERYBODY.
UM, UM, UM, LOOKS AT SOCIAL MEDIA
BUT BE HAPPY TO, UH, TO DISCUSS THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK COMMENT.
UM, THE LIBRARY IS ONE OF THE SITES THAT POPS UP MORE IN MY NOTIFICATIONS.
YOU GUYS DO AN AMAZING JOB AT DOING ROTATING, UM, YOU KNOW, FLYERS WITH GOOD INFORMATION AND NICE COLORING.
UM, SO I REALLY THINK THAT YOU GUYS DO AN AMAZING JOB ALSO AT ESTABLISHING YOUR CALENDAR WITH ALL THE ACTIVITIES.
UM, I PRINTED ONE AND SENT IT TO MY SON BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CHESS, UM, THING GOING ON ON MONDAYS AND HE'S OBSESSED PLAYING CHESS.
SO, UM, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE ALSO THAT YOU HAVE A DIALOGUE THAT IS GONNA BE LIKE A SPANISH TULIA TIME.
OVERALL, I THINK THE BOARD IS DOING AN AMAZING JOB IN THE LIBRARY.
AND FOR THE RECORD, WE DON'T DO ALL THAT WORK.
THAT REALLY COMES FROM THE, FROM THE LIBRARY.
BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULD BE, UM, HAPPY TO SEE HOW WE CAN PROMOTE ALL OF THAT.
CUZ I AGREE, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, A LOT OF EVENTS, DIVERSE EVENTS, AND I THINK THAT THE CITY OF KYLE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, BENEFIT FROM ALL THAT, ALL AGES, UM, FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS.
AND, UH, BUT YES, MS UH, TIERNEY AND HER STAFF, THEY DO, UH, AN ABSOLUTE AMAZING JOB.
I KNOW, BUT I'M, I'M SURE THE BOARD GIVES FEEDBACK, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW, THE BOARDS WERE CREATED TO DO IS TO GIVE FEEDBACK TO THINK MAKES THINGS BETTER.
SO, UM, I GIVE HER KUDOS CUZ SHE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB.
BUT I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT BEHIND THAT.
JUST REAL QUICK, COLLEEN, DO YOU GUYS WORK WITH, UH, RACHEL ON PROMOTING THE EVENTS? YES.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[7. Receive a report and hold a discussion regarding Planning & Zoning Commission activities. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, RECEIVE A REPORT AND HOLD DISCUSSION REGARDING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ACTIVITIES, MR. ATKINSON.UH, WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD, UM, AS THE PREVIOUS, UM, DISCUSSION, WE HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REPORT AND DISCUSSION.
SO I WILL LIKE TO INTRODUCE ALEX GARRA AS OUR, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING CHAIR.
MAYOR PROAM COUNCIL, UH, ALEX GARRA.
I AM THE CHAIRMAN FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.
AND WE'RE HERE JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF, UH, UH, PRESENTATION ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AS OF LATE.
UM, SOME OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING, JUST AS COUNSEL HAS MANY OF OUR ITEMS THAT WE DO GO THROUGH UC AS WELL.
UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE LARGEST ONE RIGHT NOW FOR BOTH US AND FOR YOU.
I BELIEVE, UM, YOU KNOW, VERITY HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB.
I'M VERY, I'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THEM FROM THE BEGINNING.
THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESSES WITH YOU AS WELL.
UM, THERE ARE MANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, THOUGH.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DO DISCUSS AT PLANNING AND ZONING
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ARE NOT JUST THE ITEMS THAT STAFF BRINGS TO US.ONE THING I AM ENCOURAGED MOST ABOUT THE CURRENT COMMISSIONERS IS THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE CODE.
THEY ARE SEEING WAYS THAT THEY CAN MAKE SUGGESTIONS, NOT JUST SIT BACK AND DO A YES OR NO VOTE WHEN AN ITEM COMES.
THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT MINIMUM LOT SIZES FOR CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT, UM, UH, PARKS AND SUBDIVISIONS AND OTHER ITEMS THE COMMISSIONERS ARE BRINGING AND WE ARE DISCUSSING, HOPEFULLY WILL SOON HAVE SOMETHING TO THEN PRESENT TO COUNCIL.
UM, THE ENTIRE COMMISSION DID RECENTLY SERVE ON THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ALONG WITH ONE OTHER GENTLEMAN, I THINK MR. DIPPEL.
AND HE, WE, WE, UH, WE TOGETHER DID CONCLUDE THAT, AND IT SHOULD BE COMING TO COUNCIL SOON.
UM, WE RECENTLY JUST DID, UH, TALK THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE.
I BELIEVE THAT'S COMING TO YOU LATER TONIGHT WITH SOME CHANGES THAT WE DO RECOMMEND FOR OUR LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE ON THE NEXT ONE.
UM, AND THEN MANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DO COVER REGULARLY, UM, ARE ITEMS THAT YOU DO SEE.
THERE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE, SUCH AS ZONING REQUESTS, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WILL COME TO US.
WE WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL, AND THEN IT'LL COME TO YOU TYPICALLY AT THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WE DO LOOK AT THAT END WITH PLAN AND ZONING.
AND THE COMMISSIONERS TAKE THOSE VERY SERIOUSLY, SUCH AS, UH, TREE MITIGATION.
UH, TREE TREE REMOVAL IS ONE OF THOSE.
AND IT IS A DISCUSSION THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE COMES, THEY ASK TO REMOVE A TREE, UH, FROM THE CITY OF A CERTAIN CALIPER SIZE.
IT DOES COME TO PLANNING AND ZONING, PLAIN ZONING DOES HAVE TO APPROVE IT OR NOT.
AND SINCE THESE ITEMS DO COME TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND END WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, THE COMMISSIONERS TAKE THOSE VERY SERIOUSLY.
UM, I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE LISTED AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING RECENTLY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS BY FAR THE MOST, BUT WE HAVE CONTINUED ON WITH EACH OF THE OTHER ITEMS. ALL RIGHT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MAYOR PROTO? YES.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, GUERRA, UH, I, I DO WATCH A LOT OF YOUR MEETINGS AND I I DO YOU, YOU GUYS, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS THERE ARE VERY THOROUGH.
I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THAT, ESPECIALLY MS. UH, COMMISSIONER SARAH KER.
SHE ASKED THE REAL TOUGH QUESTIONS, AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT.
AND I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY, UH, TAKING LIGHT ABOUT THE TREES BECAUSE, UH, UM, WHEN WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE OFF OF ROWLAND LANE AND A LOT OF THOSE TREES WENT DOWN.
I MEAN, THAT'S, UH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, AND IT'S, IT WAS KIND OF BITTERSWEET TO SEE A LOT OF THAT.
UM, BUT I'M GLAD THAT THE COMMISSIONERS REALLY TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY, ESPECIALLY WITH A LOT OF OUR OAK TREES THAT ARE HERE AND, AND NATIVE TREES THAT THEY REALLY LOOK AT TO SEE IF IT REALLY QUALIFIES FOR IT TO GO DOWN, OR IF IT'S A POSSIBLE, A TREE THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, ON ITS LAST STAGE THAT YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT TO SAY, YES, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH NOT GONNA LAST.
BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UH, WE LOOK AT THAT.
BUT, BUT THANK YOU TO YOU AND, AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK.
UM, TO YOUR FIRST COMMENT ABOUT COMMISSIONER ANKIN.
I, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, UH, I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO THE COUNCIL.
THIS LAST GROUP OF COMMISSIONERS YOU ALL DID APPROVE, COMMISSIONER KIN, UM, COMMISSIONER SIEGEL, COMMISSIONER DELORE, THEY ARE ALL IN THEIR FIRST YEAR, BUT THEY'RE ALL VERY STRONG COMMISSIONERS.
THEY HAVE EACH MADE GREAT, UH, AND GREAT IMPACT TO THE COMMISSION WITHIN THIS JUST FIRST YEAR THAT THEY'VE BEEN ON.
I EXPECT GOOD THINGS FROM ALL OF THEM IN THE YEARS TO COME.
UM, AND, AND FOR THE TREE MITIGATE, FOR THE TREE REMOVAL, YES.
IF IT'S UNDER A CERTAIN CALIPER, IT DOES NOT QU COME TO US, BUT OVER A CERTAIN SIZE IT DOES.
JUST THIS LAST MEETING FOR QUITE A WHILE, UM, OUR DISCUSSION WAS ON THAT ONE ITEM BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO US AT YES, THAT'S TRUE.
AND THEY DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND, AND IT IS VERY APPRECIATED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CUSTOMER ZUNIGA? UH, YES.
JUST ALSO SAY THAT Y'ALL DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF, UM, LOOKING THROUGH THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE SEE IN THE STAFF MEMOS WITH THE VOTES AND THE WAY THAT THEY'RE, THEY GO.
THAT'S REALLY BEEN USEFUL FOR, FOR US TO SEE IN THE BACKUPS.
SO, UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, AND MAYBE IN ADDITION, LIKE WHEN THERE'S A FLOODING FLOOD ZONE AREA MM-HMM.
I JUST HAD A QUICK NOTE JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
I DO AGREE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A VERY STRONG GROUP OF COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW.
UM, I AM ONE THAT WHEN I'M, WE'RE REVIEWING THE AGENDA AND I SEE THAT THERE WAS LIKE A FI A FOUR ONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM.
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BECAUSE WE HERE SEE THINGS AND, AND WE REALLY RELY A LOT INTO WHAT THE DECISIONS THAT YOU GUYS, THE BOTH OF YOU GUYS TAKE.SO, UM, I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU AS THE CHAIR THINK THAT YOU HAVE A STRONG GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THERE FOR THAT GIVE US GOOD SUPPORT WHENEVER WE'RE REVIEWING STUFF.
UM, I, I, I WILL SAY THAT I DO ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSIONERS ANYTIME THEY DO HAVE A DISSENTING VOTE TO EXPLAIN WHY.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I DO TRUST THAT IN MANY SITUATIONS YOU ALL ARE SEEING THOSE MEETINGS, YOU ARE HEARING THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
OR MANY TIMES YOU MAY ASK MR. ATKINSON, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE TWO PEOPLE.
AND, AND SO GIVING THAT REASON, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES THAT I TAKE A POSITION AND I DISAGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, BUT I STILL GIVE MY REASON, I GIVE WHY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL WILL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION JUST AS ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR COMMENTS.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU MR. GARRA.
[8. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the potential expansion of Google Fiber to Kyle. ~ Bryan Langley, City Manager]
ALRIGHT.NEXT UP, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF GOOGLE, GOOGLE FIBER TO KYLE.
UH, WE'RE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT GOOGLE FIBER IS INTERESTED IN COMING TO THE CITY OF KYLE AND WITH THEIR PRODUCT.
WE HAVE WITH US TONIGHT, JOHN MICHAEL CORTEZ, WHO'S GONNA PRESENT GOOGLE, UH, INFORMATION, GOOGLE FIBER INFORMATION, AND THEIR PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO I'M GONNA ASK JOHN MICHAEL TO GO THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION.
AND, UH, JOHN MICHAEL, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
JOHN MICHAEL CORTEZ WITH GOOGLE FIBER.
I'M THE HEAD OF GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS FOR GOOGLE FIBER HERE IN TEXAS, AND I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE THERE.
HE IS LUKE RICK, WHO'S OUR, UH, ENGINEERING LEAD, UH, FOR CENTRAL TEXAS HERE.
AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY, UH, TO, UH, DISCUSS WITH THE COUNCILS TO START A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MORE AND BETTER INTERNET SERVICE CHOICES TO RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN, UH, IN KYLE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL, IF, IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, I'LL, I'LL MAYBE GIVE YOU ABOUT A FIVE OR 10 MINUTE OVERVIEW OF, OF, UH, OUR PROGRAM AND THEN, UH, ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UH, OR COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT, UH, THIS EXCITING OPPORTUNITY.
YOU DID HAVE SOME SLIDES THAT WE PRESENTED, JERRY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THOSE UP FOR THE AUDIENCE.
YEAH, YOU HAVE THE POWERPOINT SLIDES IN THE BACKGROUND.
UH, WELL, I'LL JUST START BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE FIBER WAS FOUNDED, UH, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER 10 YEARS AGO WITH A MISSION AND A BELIEF THAT, UH, EVERYBODY IN EVERY COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S BIG, SMALL, RURAL, OR URBAN, UH, DESERVES ACCESS TO INTERNET THAT'S FAST, RELIABLE, OPEN, AND FAIRLY PRICED.
AND FOR, UH, NEARLY 10 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN, UH, ACTING OUT, UH, THAT MISSION HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS.
STARTING, UH, WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, IN THE EARLY 2000 TENS, UH, THAT WOULD BE, UH, MAKING AUSTIN, UH, OUR SECOND GOOGLE FIBER CITY, UH, IN OUR PROGRAM AFTER KANSAS CITY.
AND SINCE THAT TIME, UH, GOOGLE FIBER HAS INVESTED HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND EMPLOYED THOUSANDS OF CENTRAL TEXANS, UH, AND CONSTRUCTED A NETWORK IN THE AUSTIN AREA, UH, THAT INCLUDES TENS OF MILLIONS OF LINEAR FEET OF FIBER, UH, THAT IS PASSING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOUSEHOLDS AND SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND IT'S RESULTED IN MANY, MANY, MANY THOUSANDS OF, OF HAPPY CUSTOMERS.
UH, AND WE'D LIKE TO DO THE SAME HERE IN KYLE.
UH, WE HAVE MADE SO MUCH PROGRESS, UH, IN AUSTIN THAT WE'RE REALLY PRETTY CLOSE TO HAVING BUILT OUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
AND SO FOR THE, UH, LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE BEEN, UH, EXCITED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES ABOUT CONTINUED EXPANSION OF OUR NETWORK TO SERVE THE GOOD FOLKS HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS.
UH, SOME PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE ALONG WITH OUR CONTINUED BUILD IN AUSTIN IS, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE FINISHED A COMPLETE BUILD OUT, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, A COMPLETE BUILD OUT OF, UH, A SMALLER CITY.
BUT THE, UH, THE CITY OF SUNSET VALLEY, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE BEGAN BUILDING JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AUSTIN CITY LIMITS IN UNINCORPORATED TRAVIS COUNTY.
SO WE'RE NOW SERVING RESIDENTS OUTSIDE OF, OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY.
UH, WE, UH, RECENTLY ANNOUNCED AND ARE RIGHT ABOUT TO START CONSTRUCTION, UH, IN THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK, UH, JUST NORTH OF AUSTIN.
AND, UH, WE RECENTLY, UH, UH, ANNOUNCED AGREEMENTS, UH, WITH THE CITY COUNCILS AND THE STAFF IN THE CITIES OF WESTLAKE AND ROLLINGWOOD TO ALSO BEGIN TO BUILD OUR NETWORK, UH, IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRESS, UH, WE'VE MADE SO FAR AND, UH, UH, EXCITED ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, WITH YOUR CITY STAFF HERE ABOUT POTENTIAL EXPANSION TO SERVE, TO SERVE KYLE AS WELL.
SO, SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF, UH, GOOGLE FIBER, UH, COMING, UH, TO, UH, THE CITY OF KYLE IS WITHOUT ANY, UH, INVESTMENT
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BY THE CITY, WITHOUT ANY EXPENDITURE, UH, FROM THE CITY, GOOGLE FIBER WILL INVEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, UH, IN, UH, THAT BECOMES PART OF YOUR TAX BASE HERE LOCALLY IN, UH, A WORLD CLASS, UH, FIBER TO THE PREMISES NETWORK.UH, OUR DEPLOYMENT METHOD, THE WAY THAT WE BUILD OUR NETWORK, UH, IS GENERALLY FASTER, CLEANER, UH, LESS DISRUPTIVE THAN THE WAY THESE NETWORKS HAVE TRADITIONALLY, UH, BEEN DEPLOYED, UH, IN COMMUNITIES.
AND THAT KIND OF UNIQUE WAY THAT DEPLOYMENT TOOLKIT THAT WE HAVE IS REALLY KIND OF THE SECRET SAUCE THAT ALLOWS US TO, WHEN WE COME INTO A COMMUNITY LIKE KYLE, WE WANT TO COME IN WITH THE INTENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO SERVE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERY RESIDENT, EVERY SMALL BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT KIND OF CHERRY PICK CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS, THIS WAY OF DOING THINGS, WE CAN COME IN WITH THAT INTENT.
AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IN MY EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH GOOGLE FIBER, WE REALLY LIVE OUT THAT INTENT AND, AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BUILD TO EVERY EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE PARTNER WITH.
UH, THE OTHER, ONE OF THE OTHER BENEFITS, OF COURSE, IS THAT FOR RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, WE BRING REAL COMPETITION, UH, FOR INTERNET SERVICE COMPETITION ON SPEEDS, ON PRICE, ON RELIABILITY, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, ON, ON SERVICE, UH, TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
UH, WE REALLY ARE, UH, LEADING THE INDUSTRY IN, IN BEING, UH, A LEADER IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.
UH, OF COURSE THAT RESULTS IN, AGAIN, HAPPY RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN A COMMUNITY AND, UH, UH, GENERALLY A GREAT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND, AND MORE, UH, UH, MORE, UH, FAIR AND EQUITABLE ACCESS, UH, FOR RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE, THERE IS A KIND OF A CATCH THOUGH, UH, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WE REALLY DO HAVE TO ESTABLISH WITH THE, WITH THE CITY, WITH THE COMMUNITY, A LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP.
UH, AND THAT RELATIONSHIP REQUIRES US TO GET TO, UH, ALIGNMENT AND AGREEMENT ON A FEW KEY KEY ITEMS. ONE OF THEM IS THAT DEPLOYMENT TOOLKIT, THE WAY THAT WE BUILD, UH, OUR NETWORK.
UH, AGAIN, IT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH OTHER PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AGAIN, UH, WE, UH, ARE VERY CONFIDENT THAT OUR METHODS YOU WILL FIND AND RESIDENTS WILL FIND ARE A LOT FASTER, A LOT LESS DISRUPTIVE, UH, UH, BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE ALIGNMENT ON, ON THE WAY THAT WE BUILD.
WE HAVE BEGUN THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY STAFF.
UH, WE'VE PROVIDED THEM WITH OUR STANDARDS, SAMPLE PERMITS, SAMPLE DESIGNS, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN REVIEW THOSE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT.
I THINK JUST, UH, EARLIER THIS MORNING WE HOSTED A SUCCESSFUL SITE VISIT WITH SOME OF THE CITY STAFF AT ONE OF OUR MANY ONGOING CONSTRUCTION SITES IN, IN AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY.
SO THEY COULD SEE FIRSTHAND HOW WE BUILD OUR NETWORK, UH, HOW WE RESTORE AREAS, HOW QUICKLY IT MOVES, UH, HOW MINIMALLY DISRUPTIVE IT IS.
AND SO I, I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT THAT WENT VERY WELL.
AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND HOPEFULLY QUICKLY GET TO FULL ALIGNMENT ON OUR BUILD METHODOLOGY WITH, WITH THE CITY.
UH, THE OTHER AREA WHERE, UH, FOR US TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME ALIGNMENT.
AND THAT IS ON, UH, UH, A RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT, UH, THAT KIND OF SPELLS OUT, UH, THAT RELATIONSHIP AND GIVES, UH, GOOGLE FIBER THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEPLOY OUR NETWORK IN THE CITIES AND IN THE COMMUNITIES RIGHT OF WAY, UH, KIND OF SPELLS OUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT ON AN, ON A, UH, ONGOING BASIS.
IT ALSO, UH, PROVIDES US A VEHICLE TO, TO CHARGE AND TO REMIT TO THE CITY A RIGHT OF WAY ACCESS FEE, UH, SO THAT GOOGLE FIBER CAN COMPENSATE THE CITY FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING OUR NETWORK IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY TO SERVE RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES, UH, THAT RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT, UH, WE'VE SHARED, UH, WITH THE CITY STAFF AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK ON IT SOON.
AND HOPEFULLY VERY QUICKLY GETTING ALIGNED ON THAT.
UH, SIMILAR, UH, TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO VERY RECENTLY WITH OTHER, UH, CITIES IN CENTRAL TEXAS, CUZ IT REALLY IS THE EXECUTION OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT, UH, BY THE COUNCIL THAT KIND OF GIVES US THE GREEN LIGHT TO START DEPLOYING RESOURCES, TO INVEST IN, IN MORE ADVANCED DESIGN AND ENGINEERING, START LINING UP CONSTRUCTION RESOURCES AND APPLYING FOR PERMITS, ET CETERA, SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN OUR WORK AND, AND MOVE, UH, VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
UH, THE, THE OTHER THIRD, UH, UH, THING THAT WE NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL, REALLY, UH, AS PART OF THIS, THIS RELATIONSHIP IS JUST A RELIABLE AND CONSISTENT PERMITTING PROCESS.
UH, YOU KNOW, JUST WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE, UH, ABLE TO PREDICT, UH, THE, THE LENGTH OF TIME IT WILL TAKE TO GET PERMITS SO THAT, UH, OUR OPERATION, AGAIN IS VERY FAST, VERY EFFICIENT, AND SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE THINGS OUT MANY MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
AND, AND SO WE NEED TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN A PARTICULAR AREA, IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD ON PARTICULAR STREETS.
AND SO THAT'S JUST PART OF THAT ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH THE, UH, CITY IF IT'S A, UH, IT'S A, A COMMITMENT TO MAKING THIS A PRIORITY PROGRAM, UH, ON BOTH SIDES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE CONVERSATION THAT, THAT WE'VE STARTED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND WE WILL CONTINUE AND HOPEFULLY, UH, AGAIN,
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UH, VERY QUICKLY WE'LL GET, UH, ALIGNMENT ON ALL THE DETAILS WITH, UH, YOUR GREAT STAFF AND BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IN SHORT ORDER WITH THAT, UH, RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT FOR, UH, EXECUTION.UM, I HAVE, UH, UH, A LOT MORE I COULD SAY, BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US TO STOP THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THAT, UH, LUKE AND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER FOR YOU.
MR. LANGLEY, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? NO, I, I, I THINK, UH, WE DID A GOOD JOB OF PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM AND IF THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN PROCEEDING, WE WILL, UH, FINALIZE SOME OF THE ENGINEERING DETAILS THAT, THAT WERE MENTIONED, UH, ABOUT THE TRENCHING AND SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT'S CALLED MICRO TRENCHING AND THE ROADWAYS, EXISTING ROADWAYS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS EXACTLY THE DEPTH THAT WE BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE SURE THOSE, UH, DEPTHS ARE MAINTAINED IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, AND THAT WE HAVE GOOD CONTROL OVER OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S THE, UH, ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE OF IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS PROTECTED BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY NEW ROADWAYS, UH, WHICH ARE EASIER TO DO, IT'S EXISTING ROADWAYS AS WELL.
AND SO, UH, THAT'S SOME OF THE DETAILS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, BUT IF THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN PROCEEDING WITH THAT, WE CAN FINALIZE THAT, COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT AND BRING IT BACK FOR YOU AT A FUTURE ITEM TO HAVE YOU CONSIDER ACTING ON IT.
AND, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
UM, HOW DO YOU, HOW DOES GOOGLE FIBER DETERMINE, UH, WHAT, WHICH AREAS OF THE CITY RECEIVE ACCESS TO, UH, TO THE PROGRAM? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, UH, HOW DO WE DECIDE? WELL, AGAIN, WE, WE START WITH THE INTENT.
WE'RE GONNA SERVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, IT FIRST STARTS WITH OUR, OUR OUR, UH, UH, OUR KIND OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN, YOU KNOW, HOW WE BUILD THE NETWORK, UH, WHICH DETERMINES, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE START, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO LOCATE OUR FIRST FACILITIES THAT TIE INTO OUR BACKBONE.
AND USUALLY WE START THERE AND WE KIND OF EXPAND OUT FROM THERE AND AS WE GO, UH, SOME OF IT IS, UH, LARGELY DEPENDENT ON THAT DEPLOYMENT TOOLKIT.
AND, AND LUKE CAN GET UP AND, AND FILL IN THE DETAILS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE TIMES IF WE'RE, IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO USE OUR DEPLOYMENT METHODOLOGIES, UH, UH, UH, IN A, YOU KNOW, FLEXIBLE MANNER, SOMETIMES THAT DOES PREVENT US FROM ACTUALLY BUILDING AN AREA.
UH, IF WE, UH, DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, TO BUILD, UH, EFFICIENTLY, UH, THEN THAT, THAT DOES POSE OFTENTIMES A BARRIER.
UH, SOMETIMES IT'S, UH, IF THERE'S, UH, AN ONGOING INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, UM, THAT IS IN THE AREA, THAT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE, WE MAY DECIDE, HEY, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THAT AREA LATER.
WE'VE GOT SOME POCKETS OF, OF OUR NETWORK IN, IN AUSTIN, UH, IN PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE BUILT SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO, WHERE BECAUSE OF A CITY, YOU KNOW, WATER WASTEWATER PROJECT, WE HAD TO SKIP THOSE AREAS.
AND WE'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF COMING BACK TO SOME OF THOSE AREAS.
BUT GENERALLY WE, OUR INTENT IS TO BUILD EVERY AREA.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT MUCH OF A DECISION.
AND IF I COULD PIGGYBACK ON THAT TOO, UM, THERE'S EITHER, THERE'S ALSO AREAS OF AUSTIN THAT FOR, UH, WHATEVER REASON ARE, UH, PREFERRED METHOD OF INSTALLATION, UM, WASN'T APPROVED BY, UH, THE JURISDICTION AT THE TIME.
WE'VE THEN GONE BACK, UH, TO LOOK AT, UH, OTHER DEPLOYMENT METHODS AND ARE COMING BACK NOW, CIRCLING BACK TO THOSE SAME AREAS TO BE ABLE TO DEPLOY THEM.
SO IT IS STILL VERY MUCH OUR INTENT TO GET TO EVERY HOME, EVERY BUSINESS WITHIN THE AREA.
IT'S JUST A TIMING FACTOR, UH, THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THAT INSTALLATION METHOD.
JUST ONE, ONE OTHER THING, I I MIGHT MENTION THAT, THAT, UH, UH, MIGHT, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE HERE IN KYLE.
THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS IN SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE WHERE, UH, THE, THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS ARE ACTUALLY NOT OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THAT, THAT MUNICIPALITY.
THEY'RE PRIVATE, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY AN HOA.
UH, SIMILAR TO OUR, OUR NEED TO HAVE A RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENT WITH THE MUNICIPALITY, WITH THE CITY, WE WOULD ALSO THEN, IN THAT CASE, HAVE TO HAVE A, A SEPARATE AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THAT HOA WHO OWNS AND MAINTAINS THE, THE RIGHTS OF WAY THERE.
IN MOST INSTANCES, INSTANCES, THEY'RE HAPPY FOR US TO COME IN CUZ THEY, THEY WANT THE SERVICE.
BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW INSTANCES WHERE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT AT THE, AT THIS TIME.
AND SO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE NOT ABLE TO BUILD, BUT THAT, THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SEPARATE AGREEMENT, UH, FOR, FOR THOSE TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IF I COULD JUST TO BE CLEAR ON, ON THOSE TYPES OF NEIGHBORHOODS, WE'RE STILL LEAVING ASSETS OUTSIDE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO IF THEY EVER WERE TO CHANGE THEIR MIND, WE COULD GO IN AT, UH, QUITE QUICKLY.
JUST, JUST GENERAL STATEMENT, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER COMPANIES THAT HAVE COME INTO THE CITY HAVE CREATED, UH, CREATED A LOT OF HEADACHES FOR RESIDENTS AND, UH, IT, THEY'VE LOST, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S MONETARY LOSS TO THEIR PROPERTY, UM, AND IT HASN'T BEEN FIXED.
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I THINK EVEN TO DATE.THERE'S STILL SOME PEOPLE WHO, UM, WHOSE YARDS WERE PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED, UM, IN SOME AREAS.
SO, UH, THAT'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT IS, IS HOW YOU ALL IN ADVANCE WANT TO ADDRESS WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY WORK DONE ON THEIR PROPERTY IS THEY ARE, UH, COMPENSATED IF IT'S NOT DONE, ABSOLUTELY DONE PROPERLY.
WELL, THE COUNCIL MEMBER, THIS MAY BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR, OUR DEPLOYMENT METHODOLOGY, OUR PREFERRED, SO WHAT, UH, WHAT THE TRADITIONAL DEPLOYMENT METHODS ARE FOR THIS TYPE OF NETWORK.
THERE'S, THEY GENERALLY FALL INTO, UH, AERIAL, SO USING EXISTING UTILITY POLES, UM, AND, AND WIRING FIBER STRAND UP THERE.
NOT A LOT OF THAT HERE, UH, IN CAL.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY NOT, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY.
UH, UH, THERE, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT OUR PREFERRED METHOD ANYWAY.
UH, THE, THE, THE, A LOT OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, THE OTHER, UH, METHOD THAT'S TRADITIONALLY DEPLOYED IS DIRECTIONAL DRILLING OR BORING.
SO THIS IS PROBABLY THE CAUSE OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES.
YOU HAVE A BIG, NOISY, BORING MACHINE THAT'S SITTING IN SOMEBODY'S FRONT YARD FOR SEVERAL DAYS, WEEKS THAT'S DRILLING, YOU KNOW, THREE FEET OR DEEPER.
AND THE RESIDENT WHO LIVES ON THE OTHER END OF THE BLOCK HAS A, HAS A BIG HOLE DUG IN THEIR YARD WAITING FOR THE, UH, WHERE THE BORING COMES OUT.
UH, IT'S LOUD, IT'S MESSY, IT'S DISRUPTIVE.
YOU HAVE LOTS OF UTILITY UNDER OTHER UNDERGROUND UTILITY CONFLICTS AND STRIKES POTENTIALLY, UH, AND DAMAGE TO, TO LANDSCAPE, ET CETERA.
UH, DIRECTIONAL DRILLING AND BORING IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN OUR TOOLKIT AND WE USE IT WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT THE PREDOMINANT METHOD IN OUR PREFERRED METHOD OF DEPLOYMENT AND WHAT WE THINK REALLY ENABLES US TO MOVE QUICKLY AND SERVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS, UH, AS YOUR CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, UH, MICRO-TRENCHING IN THE HARDSCAPE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO JUST TO GENERALLY DESCRIBE IT, UH, WHAT WE, WHAT WE HAVE IS A, A MACHINE THAT'S BASICALLY A SAW AND, UH, WE START ON ONE EDGE OF A RESIDENTIAL STREET, AND GENERALLY IF THERE'S CURB AND CURB, UH, IN A GUTTER PAN AND THAT SEAM, IF, IF ONE EXISTS, UH, WHERE THE CURB MEETS THE PAVEMENT, THIS SAW WILL CUT A ABOUT, UH, ONE TO TWO INCH WIDE TRENCH, ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 18 INCHES DEEP OR SO, UH, DEPENDING ON THE STANDARDS THAT, THAT WE SET WITH THE CITY AND THE ROAD CONDITIONS, ET CETERA.
AND IT, IT'S A MOVING OPERATION.
IT VERY QUICKLY, UH, CUTS THAT, THAT SHALLOW TRENCH ON, ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET, UH, THE WAY WE, WE THE THEN RIGHT BEHIND THAT WE HAVE, UH, ANOTHER CREW THAT IS LAYING DOWN, UH, FIBER AND CONDUIT INTO THAT SHALLOW TRENCH.
AND THEN BEHIND THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER CREW WITH A, UH, A CONCRETE TRUCK WITH A SPECIALLY FORMULATED FLOWABLE FILL CONCRETE THAT RESTORES, THAT STARTS RESTORING THAT TRENCH IMMEDIATELY.
UM, WHAT WE CAN GENERALLY, UH, UH, UH, UH, COMMIT TO THE PUBLIC OR NOT, OR ASSERT TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE GENERAL EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH RESIDENTS IS YOU MAY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, GETTING READY TO GO TO WORK OR DROP KIDS OFF AT SCHOOL, AND YOU'LL SEE OUR CREWS DEPLOYING ON YOUR STREET AND BY THE TIME YOU GET HOME FROM WORK OR SCHOOL, UH, THEY'RE DONE, UH, WITH YOUR STREET.
UH, SO IT'S NOT A PROCESS THAT TAKES WEEKS ON END.
NOW THERE IS WORK WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME LATERAL CUTS AND SOME, WE DO, UH, PUT, UH, FIBER IN THE RIGHT OF WAY BEHIND THE CURB SO THAT FOLKS CAN TIE INTO THE NETWORK.
BUT AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION DISRUPTION, UH, THE BLOCKING OFF OF ANY PARTS OF THE RIGHT OF WAY OR BIG NOISY MACHINES, YOU'RE TALKING LESS THAN A DAY, UH, ON A, IN A GIVEN RESIDENTIAL STREET.
AND MOST NEIGHBORHOODS WE'RE DONE WITH MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN JUST A MATTER OF A FEW WEEKS.
UM, AND ON ANY GIVEN STREET, WE'RE THERE FOR MAYBE A DAY WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION AND, AND BEING SHALLOWER LIKE THAT, UH, AGAIN, IS, IS MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, IT'S FAST, IT'S LESS DISRUPTIVE.
UH, IT'S RESTORED THE SAME DAY.
AND BECAUSE OF THE SHALLOW DEPTHS WE HAVE VERY, VERY FEW CONFLICTS WITH OTHER UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.
NOT SAYING IT NEVER HAPPENS, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY RARE AS COMPARED TO DIRECTIONAL DRILLING OR BOARD.
UH, DO YOU WANT TO AUGMENT THAT AT ALL? NO, I THINK YOU CAPTURED, UH, YEAH, THE, THE MASS MAJORITY.
I WILL SAY THAT, THAT, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT PRIMARY RUNNING LINE THAT WE PUT ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET, UM, ABOUT IN, IN A TRADITIONAL KIND OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ENVIRONMENT ABOUT EVERY OTHER HOME, UH, IN BETWEEN THE HOMES RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE WILL, UH, HAVE A LATERAL, A SERVICE LINE AND STILL IN THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY, BUT BEHIND THE CURB, USUALLY IN THE SOFTSCAPE.
UM, IF THERE'S A, A BEAUTY STRIP IN BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE CURB, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE GRASSY AREA, IT'LL BE LOCATED THERE.
WE'LL, WE'LL LOCATE IN BETWEEN THOSE HOMES A LITTLE VAULT WITH SOME SLACK CABLE.
AND THAT'S WHERE ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION AND WE'VE ACTIVATED THE NETWORK FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IF EITHER ONE OF THE RESIDENTS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE ONCE SERVICE, THAT'S WHERE THAT CONNECTION WOULD BE MADE, UM, IS, IS RIGHT THERE, UH, AT THAT LATERAL SERVICE LINE.
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THANK YOU.SO I BASICALLY HAVE AT AND T AND FRONTIER ON SPEED DIAL BECAUSE I GET EMAILS ONE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK ABOUT THE DAMAGES THAT THESE COMPANIES HAVE CAUSED TO THE YARD.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR DEPLOYMENT MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT I WANNA KNOW HOW FAST ARE YOU GOING TO RESPOND WHEN YOU TEAR SOMEBODY'S YARD AND IT DOESN'T LOOK TO THE PREEXISTING CONDITIONS OR BETTER THAN THE PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.
AND WHAT I WANNA KNOW, CUZ YOU, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HEAR, PROMISE ME THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE REACHING OUT AND YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE HAPPY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ALL THE COMPANIES DID.
AND I DO WANT YOU TO COME, BUT IT, IT BECOMES A HEADACHE FOR US TO HAVE TO RESPOND AND GO AFTER WHOEVER THE REPRESENTATIVE IS.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I WANNA KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO ENSURE ME AT ALL TIMES.
THAT I WILL BE, WE WILL BE NOTIFIED OF THE CHANGES IN YOUR ORGANIZATION AND I'M GONNA HAVE UP TO DATE CONTACT INFORMATION, WHO DO I NEED TO CALL THAT WILL ANSWER THE PHONE OR ANSWER THE EMAIL WITHIN 24 HOURS AND TELL ME, WE WILL BE AT SO-AND-SO'S RESIDENT, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS TIME BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING.
AND, UM, I MADE SURE THE RESIDENTS ARE WATCHING RIGHT NOW, SO THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU ARE AND THEY KNOW WHO TO CONTACT BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT I HAVE.
UM, OUR COMMITMENT IS TO, UH, UH, LEAVE THE COMMUNITY AS CLOSE TO AS WE FOUND IT OR BETTER.
UH, AND THAT'S NOT JUST THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT ALSO ANY IMPACT WE'VE HAD ON, ON, ON ANYBODY'S YARD OR ANY OTHER, UH, PART OF THE RESIDENCE.
SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WOULD NOTE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, A STANDARD, UH, OF, UH, IN ADVANCE OF CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN ANY PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, ONE, I I WILL SAY WE, WE WILL PERMIT ALL OF OUR WORK, RIGHT? SO WE WILL BE APPLYING FOR PERMITS WITH THE CITY, UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, UH, ANY WORK.
SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE'LL BE WORKING GENERALLY AND WHEN, RIGHT? SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING.
UH, AND ALSO BEFORE WE ACTUALLY START CONSTRUCTION, UH, WE WILL START TO PUT OUT CONSTRUCTION SIGNAGE.
UH, UH, WE WILL ALSO BEGIN PLACING ON EVERY RESIDENCE A DOOR, A DOOR HANGER, UH, IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.
THAT ALSO INCLUDES, UH, A TOLL-FREE NUMBER THAT'S A SPECIFIC CONSTRUCTION HOTLINE.
AND THAT HOTLINE IS ACTUALLY ANSWERED BY ACTUAL HUMANS 24 7.
AND ANY ISSUE, ANY QUESTION RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S TYPICALLY THE FIRST PLACE THAT PEOPLE WILL CALL.
AND, AND THEY'RE USUALLY ABLE TO RESOLVE LIKE ALMOST ANY ISSUE, UH, THAT'S RAISED REGARDING, UH, OUR CONSTRUCTION.
BUT WE KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T SEE THOSE THINGS, UH, OR THEY GET LOST OR, UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUE THAT'S NOT ABLE TO GET TO FULL RESOLUTION.
BY THE WAY, THE CONSTRUCTION SIGNAGE WILL ALSO HAVE THAT, THAT ONE, UH, EIGHT, I THINK IT'S THE 1 8, 7, 7 NUMBER ON IT.
UH, BUT UH, IN ADDITION, UH, WE WILL, AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MUNICIPALITY, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE REGULAR COMMUNICATION AND MEETINGS WITH THE CITY STAFF.
SO THE CITY STAFF WILL ALWAYS HAVE POINTS OF CONTACT WITHIN GOOGLE FIBER, UH, THAT THEY CAN REFER YOU TO.
AND THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY LIKE ME, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO'S, UH, HERE IN EVERY COMMUNITY, UH, THAT WILL BE A POINT OF, OF CONTACT, A POINT OF ESCALATION FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE COUNCIL.
BUT WE, WE, UH, MAINTAIN, UH, A LIST OF KEY CONTACTS, WHETHER IT'S FOR ENGINEERING, DESIGN AND PERMITTING, CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE, OR ANY OTHER ISSUE.
UH, YOU WILL HAVE A, A CONSTANTLY UPDATED LIST OF CONTACTS THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO, TO, TO REACH AND, AND HAVE BE RESPONSIVE.
WE, BECAUSE THIS IS A, AN AN ONGOING COMMITMENT AND A RELATIONSHIP.
CAUSE ONCE WE BUILD THE NETWORK, EVEN IF WE BUILD THE ENTIRE OF THE CITY, AS Y'ALL WELL KNOW, THIS IS A VERY FAST GROWING COMMUNITY.
THERE WILL BE NEW COMMUNITIES THAT WE NEED TO SERVE.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE CONCLUDING OUR CONSTRUCTION ANYTIME BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE NEW GROWTH.
AND I, I ANTICIPATE THAT WILL CONTINUE.
BUT IN ADDITION, WE HAVE TO BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOSELY COORDINATED HAND IN GLOVE WITH THE CITY FOR THINGS LIKE STREET MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, UH, PART OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WILL BE BEING, UH, AWARE OF WHEN THE CITY'S GONNA DO MAINTENANCE ON A STREET OR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT IMPACT OUR, OUR FACILITIES.
WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THOSE SO WE CAN MOVE THEM OUT OF THE WAY, UH, SO THAT THE CITY CAN GET ABOUT, UH, ITS IMPORTANT WORK WITHOUT, UH, US BEING IN CONFLICT.
SO WE, WE WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
ONCE THE NETWORK IS BEING BUILT, WE, WE, UH, WE'RE GONNA STAY HERE AND YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS, IS, IS ON JUST RESIDENTS AND, AND BEING RESPONSIVE, OUR ATTITUDE IS NOT JUST TO LEAVE THINGS AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN WE FOUND THEM, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO DELIGHT RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS TO HAPPEN AND ANYBODY TO, UH, TO
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HAVE A BAD TASTE IN THEIR MOUTH WHEN WE'RE DONE BECAUSE WE WANT THESE FOLKS AS CUSTOMERS, WE WANT THEM TO ACTUALLY BE DELIGHTED AND PLEASED WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AGAIN, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT LIKELY TO BE CUSTOMERS AND WE WANT THEM AS CUSTOMERS.SO, UM, OUR COMMITMENT TO YOU IS TO ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE AND TO BE RESPONSIVE.
AND, UM, I I DO WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO THAT.
YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE DOOR HANDLES AND THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND TALK TO SOMEBODY BEFORE YOU GET ON THEIR YARDS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE SECOND COMPLAINT PROBABLY WE GOT THE MOST IS THAT THE JOB STARTED AND NOBODY WAS NOTIFIED.
UM, AND SO YOU WON'T HEAR ABOUT IT.
SO I, I DON'T THINK, AND I'M MAKING THIS CLEAR, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOCK ON THE DOOR BEFORE YOU START WORK IN ANYBODY'S YARD.
ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? I, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY DO IN ADVANCE OF CONSTRUCTION.
UM, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN BRING BACK TO OUR, OUR TEAM TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, FOLKS THAT UH, ONCE THE NETWORK IS BUILT THAT GO DOOR TO DOOR TO ADVISE RESIDENTS THAT HEY, YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR SERVICE NOW WE'RE DONE.
UM, BUT UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER DONE THAT BEFORE CONSTRUCTION, BUT THAT IS, I CAN COMMIT TO YOU THAT I CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER VERY QUICKLY BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE ASK YOU TO APPROVE ANYTHING, WHETHER OR NOT WE'D BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I'M SORRY, I MEAN, I'M FRUSTRATED CUZ JUST TODAY I HAD TO, YOU KNOW, SEND A NASTY EMAIL TO SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T RESPOND LIKE IT'S BEEN OVER A WEEK AND I HAVE RESIDENTS REACHING OUT TO ME AND IT TOOK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A COUPLE OF UGLY WORDS FOR SOMEBODY TO ACTUALLY RESPOND.
I DON'T WANNA GET TO THAT POINT.
WELL, UH, UH, THE OTHER THING I'LL COMMIT TO YOU IS YOU WILL HAVE MY CELL PHONE.
I DO WANT THAT
THE RECORD CUSTOMER FLOORS, KEL, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD THAT ANYONE THAT'S ON THOSE POINT OF CONTACT LISTS TOO, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOCAL TO THIS, THIS CENTRAL TEXAS, AUSTIN AREA.
UM, NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE, UH, FURTHER AWAY THAN JUST A DRIVE TO COME DOWN TO ACTUALLY SEE SOMETHING AS WELL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY COMMIT THAT WE THINK THAT MAKES US A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE FLOOR SCALE ALL RIGHT.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS GONNA BE, DOES GOOGLE STAFF THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION WORKERS OR EMPLOYEES THAT BURY THE LINES, OR IS IT A THIRD PARTY? SO WE HAVE, UH, UH, A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER THAT WOULD BE MANAGING THE CONSTRUCTION IN A GIVEN COMMUNITY.
LIKE, LIKE KYLE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOGLE FIBER EMPLOYEE.
BUT WE DO EMPLOY, UH, LOCAL VENDORS, UH, ON THE MAJORITY OF THE CONSTRUCTION WORK, UH, UH, UH, HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS.
AND WE HAVE A PORTFOLIO OF VENDORS THAT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR A LONG TIME WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR DEPLOYMENT METHODS.
UH, WE HAVE CERTAIN STANDARDS FOR, UH, HOW THEY'RE A, UH, UH, BUILDING IN A COMMUNITY, HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE HEARD MAY BE APPRAISED TO, TO HAVE A CONSISTENT SET OF VENDORS IN, IN A COMMUNITY LIKE KYLE.
WE'RE NOT ROTATING IN A NEW VENDOR, YOU KNOW, IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE WOULD, YOU WOULD WANT SOME, ARE YOU SAYING YOU MIGHT USE THE SAME VENDORS THAT WE'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT? I'M SORRY? ARE YOU SAYING YOU MIGHT USE THE SAME VENDORS THAT WE'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT? I, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOUR VENDORS ARE.
YOU SHOULD PROBABLY LEARN YEAH.
FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S, THAT'S AN AUTOMATIC NO
UM, AND SO, BUT IF THERE ARE VENDORS THAT WOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY, I, I, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SAFE TO SAY WE WOULDN'T USE THEM.
I THINK AT AND T AND FRONTIER PROBABLY THOUGHT THE SAME THING.
UM, I, I'M NOT IN ANY BIG RUSH TO GET, UM, A THIRD INTERNET PROVIDER NOW.
IT'S NOT GOOGLE, CUZ I WISH GOOGLE WOULD'VE COME FIRST.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S AT AND T AND FIBER, UH, AND, AND, UH, FRONTIER.
AND WE'RE DEALING WITH ALL THESE ISSUES.
MY CONCERN IS, UM, THEY'RE DIGGING UP THE YARDS AND YOU GUYS ARE DIGGING UP THE ROADS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO DO IT.
I KNOW YOU'RE, IT'S MICRO ON THE ROAD, BUT OUR ROADS ARE ALREADY BAD.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE A REAL GOOD CONCEPT OF HOW A LOT OF THE EAST SIDE ROADS ARE BECAUSE JUST DRIVING ON THE ROADS BY THEMSELVES IS NOT GOOD.
LIKE, SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW EASY THAT WOULD BE FOR YOU GUYS, UM, TO, IN, TO INSTALL THAT WAY.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT YOUR HUT LOCATIONS.
IT IS REALLY NOT ATTRACTIVE AT ALL.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD BUILD A DIFFERENT KIND OF FENCE OR SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, UM, WHERE YOU WOULD PUT THAT, WHERE SOMEBODY WOULD BE LIKE, OH, THAT'S, IT'S NICE TO LOOK AT.
IF YOU WANNA PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN ALL THE WAY TO THE
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LEFT.UM, WE'RE TRYING TO BEAUTIFY OUR CITY AND THAT FOR ME DOESN'T CUT IT.
AND, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO HAVE IT, AND I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE NEED FOR THE FANS AND, AND THE REASON WHY YOU WOULD PUT IT THERE.
BUT, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS THIS, WHAT OTHER, IS THIS WHAT AT AND T IS DOING AS WELL? DOES ANYBODY KNOW, OR IS THIS WHAT FRONTIER'S DOING? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF DEVICE LIKE THAT.
BUT WE CAN, UM, I THINK IF THE REQUEST IS THAT GOOGLE FIBER CONSIDER BEAUTIFYING THAT SCREENING IT MORE APPROPRIATELY OR COULD, WE COULD LOOK AT THOSE THINGS.
ANOTHER THING THAT YOU GUYS COULD DO FOR FUTURE GROWTH IS YOU COULD PUT A CONDUIT IN THE SUBDIVISIONS AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN LEASE THAT OUT TO OTHER INTERNET PROVIDERS AND MAKE YOURSELF SOME MONEY AND MAKE IT, AND REST ASSURE OUR CITY WILL NEVER AGAIN HAVE TO HAVE THESE, THE, THE ROAD TORE UP OR THE YARDS TORE UP.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE A PLUS FOR THE RESIDENTS.
I MEAN, IF THIS IS THE ONLY TIME THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THIS WOULD BE AN ISSUE I COULD GET ON BOARD WITH THAT.
I COULD SAY, OKAY, THEY PUT A CONDUIT IN THERE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S DOABLE.
BUT I, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DO IT IF WE COULD AFFORD IT.
BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GOOGLE CAN LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TO, TO REASSURE US THAT THIS IS IT.
LIKE WE NO LONGER HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS.
WELL, WHAT I CAN SPEAK TO IS, IS THE HUT LOCATION.
UM, JUST GENERALLY WE DO TRY TO LOCATE THOSE WHERE IT'S OUT OF THE WAY.
UH, IT'S USUALLY BEHIND SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT IN A PROMINENT AREA.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY, UH, ASSESSED A FEW POTENTIAL LOCATIONS FOR A HUT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO SERVE, UH, THE COMMUNITY HERE IN KYLE.
AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT READILY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
UH, THEY'RE KIND OF TUCKED IN OR NEAR OTHER THINGS THAT LOOK SIMILAR, SO WE'RE NOT ADDING, YEAH, I JUST, I JUST WANNA PIGGYBACK ON THAT.
SO ESPECIALLY THE, THE, UM, PRIMARY LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THEY'RE CO-LOCATED WITH, UH, CELL TOWERS.
SO THERE WILL ALREADY BE ONE OF THESE STRUCTURES, UH, THERE, IF NOT MULTIPLE OF THEM.
SO WHEN WE DO, UH, DO THAT, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE ADDING SOME NEW EYESORE.
UM, I KNOW THAT WE'VE ALSO DONE SOME SORT OF, UH, BEAUTIFICATION IN OTHER AREAS AS WELL, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT Y'ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TO, TO RESPOND TO THAT.
I, I WAS NOT AWARE AND I PROBABLY WASN'T ON COUNCIL WHEN THOSE OTHER THINGS WERE BUILT.
SO, UH, AT TRYING TO FULFILL MY DUTY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, IF YOU COULD, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT BRICK OR MAKE IT ARTSY OR MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN LOOKS BETTER THAN, THAN, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A JAIL.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING KYLE AGAIN.
WHAT TOOK YOU GUYS SO LONG TO GET HERE? WELL, WE JUST, UH, WE, OUR NETWORK'S KIND OF GROWING ORGANICALLY, SO WE HAD TO MAKE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PROGRESS IN, IN AUSTIN FIRST.
AND WE'RE KIND OF EXPANDING, AS YOU CAN TELL OUT FROM THERE.
UM, BUT I, I, I THINK THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF COMMUNITIES IN KYLE WHERE WE WILL BE THE FIRST, CERTAINLY FIBER TO THE HOME PROVIDER.
UH, THERE'S COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, UH, PROBABLY, UH, ACCESS TO, UH, DSL INTERNET, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT ADEQUATE FOR THE TYPES OF INTERNET USAGE THAT PEOPLE HA UH, INTERNET NEEDS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TODAY.
UH, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, ALMOST CERTAINLY, UH, CABLE, UH, PROVIDERS THAT ALSO PROVIDE INTERNET SERVICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME HOUSEHOLDS THAT'S PERFECTLY ADEQUATE.
BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WHEN GOOGLE FIBER WAS FIRST STARTED, UM, WE SAID, HEY, WE'RE GONNA OFFER A ONE GIGABIT SYMMETRICAL SERVICE THAT'S GIGABIT UPLOAD AND DOWNLOAD, AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE WERE CRAZY.
UH, NOBODY EVER NEEDS THAT AMOUNT OF INTERNET BANDWIDTH.
FAST FORWARD TO TODAY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD HAS DOZENS, TENS, IF NOT DOZENS OF, OF INTERNET ENABLED DEVICE.
WHETHER IT'S YOUR TVS THAT ARE STREAMING OR LAPTOPS OR CELL PHONES THAT ARE ON YOUR WIFI OR RING CAMERA, YOU KNOW, PE SOME PEOPLE'S WASHER AND DRYER AND REFRIGERATOR HAVE INTERNET CONNECTIONS.
NOW, ALL OF THOSE CONNECTIONS ARE EATING INTO THE BANDWIDTH THAT'S AVAILABLE BOTH FOR DOWNLOAD AND UPLOAD.
I DUNNO IF ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE RING CAMERAS, BUT IT'S CONSTANTLY UPLOADING VIDEO THAT'S EATING UP A LOT OF YOUR UPLOAD, WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO VIDEO CONFERENCE OR, YOU KNOW, DO TELEHEALTH OR SOMETHING AS WELL.
SO THE, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, AND ESPECIALLY IT WAS INCREDIBLY PRONOUNCED THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, BUT THE DEMAND FOR BANDWIDTH HAS REALLY JUMPED UP AND THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
SO PEOPLE THOUGHT WE WERE CRAZY WITH BY OFFERING ONE GIGABIT UP AND DOWN.
WELL, NOW EV MOST PROVIDERS, IF THEY CAN, ARE BUILDING FIBER NETWORKS TO PROVIDE NOT JUST ONE GIG, BUT MULTI GIG.
WE OFFER NOW A TWO GIGABIT SERVICE WHERE WE WILL VERY SOON, UH, INCLUDING IF IN KYLE, IF, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD A NETWORK, BE OFFERING FIVE AND EIGHT GIGABIT SERVICE.
UH, AND WE'RE TESTING, UH, 20 GIGABIT SERVICE.
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UH, BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE FUTURE AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING MORE AND MORE BANDWIDTH.AND I WOULD SAY THAT FIBER TO THE PREMISE, FIBER TO THE HOME IS REALLY THE ONLY LONG-TERM SCALABLE SOLUTION.
UH, THE, THE THEORETICAL BANDWIDTH THAT YOU CAN HAVE THROUGH FIBER IS, IS ALMOST UNLIMITED.
WHEREAS THE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES HAVE A CEILING, UH, AND, AND SOME OF THEM, THEY'VE ALREADY HIT IT OR THEY'RE GOING TO HIT IT.
UH, AND, AND SO WHILE THERE ARE, UH, AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROVIDERS WHO ARE BUILDING FIBER NETWORKS IN KYLE BECAUSE THEY, THEY SEE THAT COMING TOO, UH, MOST LIKELY.
BUT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, IN MANY PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, INCLUDING THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF KYLE, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE WE MIGHT START BUILDING OUR NETWORK, WE'RE LIKELY TO BE THE FIRST AND PROBABLY THE ONLY FIBER PROVIDER IN THAT PART OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, UH, UH, TO BRING SERVICE TO THOSE, TO THOSE RESIDENTS.
SO IF COUNCIL DOES DECIDE TO BRING GOOGLE FIBER, UH, WHAT WILL A HOMEOWNER SEE IN THE EASEMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY? UH, WHAT CAN THEY EXPECT, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING TO APPEAR IN THEIR FRONT YARD? BECAUSE AS THE LAST ONES CAME IN THE EASEMENT, UH, WE WERE SURPRISED TO SEE VERY LARGE CONDUIT BOXES THAT WERE BURIED, BUT STILL VISIBLE, UH, ABOVE GROUND.
AND MANY THAT WERE VERY LARGE WHERE THERE WERE MANY MAIN CONNECTIONS.
SO WOULD THERE BE MORE OF THAT COMING TO A HOMEOWNER'S EASEMENT PROPERTY? UH, SO, UH, IN THAT AREA WHERE I SAID WE WOULD HAVE A LATERAL OFF OF THE PRIMARY RUNNING LINE, UH, THEY'RE JUST BEHIND THE CURB, DEPENDING IF, IF THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE CURB, IT WOULD BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE SIDEWALK.
BUT GENERALLY, IF THERE'S, UH, A GRASSY AREA OR OTHER SOFTSCAPE IN BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK, AGAIN, EVERY OTHER HOME AT THE PROPERTY LINE IN THAT AREA, WE WILL NEED TO HAVE, UH, BURIED SOME FIBER, UH, SLACK FIBER SO THAT FOLKS CAN MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
UH, WHAT WE TYPICALLY PUT THERE, AND AGAIN, ALL BELOW GROUND IS, UH, UH, DROP VAULT, UH, WHICH IS, HOW BIG ARE THOSE THINGS? THOSE, THOSE ARE 10 INCHES BY 15 INCHES.
UM, AND SUBGRADE, YEAH, THEY LOOK LIKE A LITTLE, LIKE THE SAME THING THAT SOME RESIDENTS HAVE FOR THEIR WATER VALVE, UM, OR SPRINKLER BOX.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE LITTLE PLASTIC COVERS THAT ARE FLUSH WITH THE GROUND THAT ARE ABOUT YAY BIG WOULD BE IN, IN THERE.
UH, SOME OF THE OTHER LARGER ONES, UM, LARGER VAULTS WHERE THERE'S LOTS OF CONNECTIONS BEING MADE, UH, WE WILL HAVE TO LOCATE SOME OF THOSE, UH, ALONG THE NETWORK.
UH, BUT WE TYPICALLY, UH, TRY TO KEEP THOSE OUT OF THE FRONT OF HOMES.
UH, WE TRY TO KEEP THOSE ON IN THE SIDE SO THAT IT'S NOT VISIBLE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT FACADE OF A HOME.
WE TRY TO, THEY ARE NECESSARY FOR THE NETWORK, BUT WE TRY TO PUT THEM SO THEY'RE NOT VISUALLY OBTRUSIVE.
UM, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S, OR, OR ON ARTERIALS OR COLLECTORS AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
SO A HOMEOWNER WHO MIGHT HAVE A REQUEST THAT IT BE MOVED, IF IT'S IN THE CUZ, UM, IS THAT I HAD THE EXPERIENCE, THE WHERE THE, THE PLANS WERE MADE.
UH, IT WAS GOING TO END UP AT THE FRONT END OF MY PROPERTY.
UM, I LUCKILY IT STILL STAYED THERE, BUT WE GOT IT BURIED A LITTLE LOWER MM-HMM.
SO THAT, THAT WAS HELPFUL TO ME.
BUT WELL, Y'ALL WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS WHO MIGHT, UM, WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR YES.
YARDS WITHOUT SEEING ADDITIONAL CONDUIT BOXES IN THERE.
WE, WE TRY TO LEAVE PEOPLE HAPPY.
WE, WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE UPSET BECAUSE AGAIN, WE, WE WANT, NOW THERE'S THOSE LARGER, UH, VAULTS, THEY CAN BE MOVED, UH, SOMEWHAT, BUT, UH, THEY, THEY STILL NEED TO EXIST SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA FOR THE, FOR THE, THE NETWORK TO BE COMPLETED.
BUT YES, UH, I'VE PERSONALLY WORKED WITH, UH, UH, SEVERAL RESIDENTS AND SEE WHERE WE COULD POTENTIALLY RELOCATE.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE VERY EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING MM-HMM.
UH, WE DO TRY TO TAKE THOSE INTO, CONSIDER THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE LOCATING THOSE.
AND YES, WE WILL WORK WITH HOMEOWNERS, UH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE PARSLEY.
UM, I DO HAVE A RESIDENT THAT WANTS TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF CHEMICALS YOU USE WHEN DRILLING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE USE ANY, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE ARE USING, NO, I, NO.
I THINK, UH, THE ONLY THING WE DO IS WHEN THE SAW IS GOING THROUGH, WE USE WATER TO KEEP DUST DOWN.
AND WE HAVE A BIG VACUUM ATTACHED TO THE BACK TO SUCK UP ANY DUST, RIGHT? YEP.
BUT THAT, I DON'T, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CHEMICALS THAT WE USE.
AND MOST OF THE HOLES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DRILLING, WE USE A METHOD REFERRED TO
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AS HYDRO BACKING.SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, IT'S A METHOD OF WATER AND, AND SUCTION IN ORDER TO, UH, BE ABLE TO CREATE THE HOLE AND, AND REMOVE THE DEBRIS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
[9. Public Hearing to Consider Proposed Assessments to Be Levied Against the Assessable Property within Improvement Area #1 and the Remainder Area of the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District, Respectively, Pursuant to the Provisions of Chapter 372 Of The Texas Local Government Code. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]
UP.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS TO BE LEVIED AGAINST, UH, ASSESSABLE PROPERTY WITHIN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE, AND THE REMAINDER AREA OF LIMESTONE CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT RESPECT, UH, RESPECTIVELY PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 3 72 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, MS. LEVY.
COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHANIE LIVEY NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT, OUR FIRM SERVICES BOND COUNSEL TO THE CITY.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS RELATED TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH WOULD BE APPROVAL OF A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN AND ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE LIMESTONE CREEK DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[10. An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas Approving the Final Project and Finance Plan for Reinvestment Zone Number Four, City Of Kyle, Texas and Approving and Authorizing the Mayor to Execute a TIRZ Agreement in Connection with the Development of the Zone. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]
[11. An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas Accepting and Approving a Service and Assessment Plan and Assessment Roll for the Limestone Creek Public Improvement District; Making a Finding of Special Benefit to the Property in Improvement Area #1 and the Remainder Area of the District, Respectively; Levying Assessments Against Property within Improvement Area #1 and the Remainder Area of the District and Establishing a Lien on Such Property; Providing for the Method of Assessment and the Payment of the Assessments in Accordance with Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code, as Amended; Providing Penalties and Interest on Delinquent Assessments; Providing for Severability; Resolving All Matters Incident and Related Thereto; And Providing an Effective Date. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel
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[12. An Ordinance Approving and Authorizing the Issuance and Sale of the City Of Kyle, Texas, Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 (Limestone Creek Public Improvement District Improvement Area #1 Project); And Approving and Authorizing Related Agreements. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel
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SO MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M GONNA PROVIDE YOU ALL A PRESENTATION THAT'LL WALK THROUGH, UM, ALL THREE AGENDA ITEMS RELATED TO THE TOURIST PLAN, THE PID ASSESSMENT LEVY, AND THEN ALSO THE BOND ISSUANCE.
UM, SO FOR THE LIMESTONE CREEK DEVELOPMENT, JUST FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH MARRIAGE HOMES WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL INITIALLY ON JUNE 21ST, 2022, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY AMENDED ON BOTH AUGUST 18TH, 2022 AND MARCH 7TH, 2023.
THE PID FOR LIMESTONE CREEK ITSELF WAS CREATED OCTOBER 18TH, 2022.
IN CONNECTION WITH THE TOURIST, THE TOURIST CREATION AND THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL ON MARCH 7TH, 2023.
AND THEN THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN FOR THE PID WAS APPROVED ON JUNE 6TH, 2023.
AS IT RELATES TO THE TAX INCREMENT ZONE, UH, THE TAX INCREMENT ZONE IS DIVIDED BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL PORTION AND A COMMERCIAL PORTION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION, RESIDENTIAL TAX INCREMENTS WILL BE USED TO PAY ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ZONE.
IT'LL BE USED TO OFFSET PIT ASSESSMENTS UP TO A MAXIMUM ANNUAL OFFSET AMOUNT.
IT'LL BE USED TO PAY EMINENT DOMAIN FEES OR SETTLEMENT.
NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT FEES RELATED TO LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF GOFORTH ROAD.
IT CAN ALSO BE USED TO PAY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER FOR ACTUAL COSTS OF ANY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN EXCESS OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY THE PID.
AND THEN LASTLY, TARA'S REVENUES CAN BE USED TO PAY FOR ANY CITY INITIATED PROJECTS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, OR SORRY FOR THE COMMERCIAL TAX INCREMENTS.
COMMERCIAL TAX INCREMENTS AT THIS TIME WILL ONLY BE USED TO PAY ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ZONE, AND THEN TO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR ANY CITY INITIATED ROADWAY OR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
AS IT RELATES TO THE COMMERCIAL PORTION, THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER, THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER, HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RELATED TO HOW THAT LAND WOULD BE DEVELOPED.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE CITY COULD, ALONG WITH THE TOURIST BOARD, COME IN AND AMEND THE PROJECT, THEN FINANCING PLAN TO ADD ADDITIONAL PROJECTS IF IT DEEMED APPROPRIATE TO DO SO AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.
LIMESTONE CREEK PID BONDS PRICED TODAY, THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY SLIDE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY FMS BONDS, THE BOND UNDERWRITER.
IT SHOWS THAT THE BONDS WERE, UH, MARKETED TO INVESTORS AND PRICED AT THREE TERM BONDS.
UH, THE LAST TERM BOND IS, SORRY, I CAN'T, UH, 2053.
AND THEN THE RATES FOR THE TERM BOND ONE WAS 4.75.
ONE WAS 5.5, AND ONE WAS 5.75.
TO PROVIDE SECURITY FOR THOSE TERM BONDS AND ASSESSMENT WILL BE LEVIED WITHIN LIMESTONE CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR IMPROVEMENT.
AREA ONE, A TOTAL OF ASSESSMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $15,694,000, UH, WILL BE LEVIED IF YOU ALL CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
$15,694,000 WILL BE LEVIED IN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER ONE FOR THAT ASSESSMENT.
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INTO TWO PARTS.PART OF THAT ASSESSMENT WILL BE USED TO SECURE THE BONDS.
UH, IF THEY'RE AUTHORIZED TONIGHT BY COUNSEL, THE RESIDUAL OF THE ASSESSMENT WILL BE, UH, USED AS SECURITY FOR WHAT IS A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.
IT'S INTENDED THAT THAT REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WILL BE TAKEN OUT BY A FUTURE SERIES OF PIT BONDS, WHEN THREE TO ONE VALUE TO LIEN RATIO WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT IS MET.
SO WE WOULD BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS TO REQUEST AUTHORITY TO ISSUE THAT B SERIES OF BONDS.
ALSO, WITHIN THE LIMESTONE CREEK DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS WHAT'S CALLED THE REMAINDER AREA OR THE RESIDUAL AREA.
CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE PI PROVIDE BENEFITS TO THE PIT AS A WHOLE.
SO AN ASSESSMENT'S LEVIED ON THE REMAINDER AREA WITHIN THE PID, AND THE CITY WILL ALSO ENTER INTO A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR THAT REMAINDER AREA.
JUST LIKE THE B SERIES OF BONDS, IT'S INTENDED THAT EACH FUTURE IMPROVEMENT AREA WILL FUND THEIR PORTION OF THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS AT THE TIME THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE.
SO THIS ASSESSMENT THAT'S LEVEE TONIGHT IS INTENDED TO BE AS SUPPLANTED OR REPLACED WITH A FUTURE ASSESSMENT AS THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE AND WILL BE WRAPPED INTO THAT PIS, UM, OR THAT PHASES BOND ISSUANCE.
BUT THIS REIMBURSEMENT AREA ASSESSMENT IS NECESSARY FOR THE CITY AND DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO THAT REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT SINCE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMING ONLINE RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE ABOUT EITHER THE PIT OR THE JUROR.
DID YOUR PRESENTATION INCLUDE THAT INCLUDED 11 AND 12? SO YOU DO NOT HAVE AN ADDITIONAL PRESENTATION THAT'S RIGHT TO MAKE.
THAT'S, SO, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND BRING UP THE, THOSE OTHER TWO ITEMS AS WELL.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, ACCEPTING AN APPROVING, A SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.
AN ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR LIMESTONE CREEK PID.
AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12 IN ORDINANCE APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2023.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LABBE? COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, DO WE HAVE ANY GRAPHICS OR PRESENTATION THAT SHOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE INTENDING TO PUT GO FORWARD? BOTH.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A MAP BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNSEL IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR THAT SHOWED THE CONTEMPLATED CONSTRUCTION AND ROAD PLACEMENT OF GOFORTH ROAD.
SO I REALLY DON'T, I HAVE, I HAVE ASKED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ALREADY TO YOU.
UM, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE LIABILITY THAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, THE PIT CREATION WAS APPROVED, AND SO WAS THE T.
UM, SO AT THIS POINT, I WISH THAT WE WOULD'VE DONE THE THINGS DIFFERENTLY, UM, THAT THE PROCESS OF OF THIS APPROVALS WOULD'VE ENGAGED MORE RESIDENTS AND THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE THE WAY IT WAS.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I DO UNDERSTAND THE LEGALITY OF, UM, POSTPONING OR NOT APPROVING THIS ITEM.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT CUSTOMER FLOOR.
UM, MY ONLY CONCERNS, UM, IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE, THE SIX HOMES, UM, IS ALSO THE DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA.
AND IT, IT MAKES IT TOUGH FOR ME AS WELL, BECAUSE I SEE SOME REALLY SWEET FACES IN THE CROWD, AND I KNOW THEY ARE, UH, GONNA BE A BIG ASSET TO THAT PART OF MY DISTRICT.
AND, AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS WHOLE SITUATION HAS KIND OF PLAYED OUT, AND IT'S NOT BEEN AS SMOOTH AS WE ALL WISHED IT WOULD BE, UM, I CAN'T SUPPORT CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT.
LIKE, IT, IT'S, IT'S A TOUGH CALL AND I KNOW IT'S NOT YOU, STEPHANIE, I KNOW IT'S NOT YOU, BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE LANDOWNERS IN THAT AREA.
AND SO, UM, I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT.
AND, AND TO BE, TO BE FAIR, I DON'T EVEN, UM, TO PICK UP, PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY SAID, I WONDERED HOW MUCH THE CITY ACTUALLY TALKED TO SAN MARCUS IN ORDER TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP.
SO WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY MOVED THE ROAD JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THEIR DISTRICT AND, AND OR INTO THEIR AREA.
BUT, UM, WITH THAT SAID, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THIS AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, IT'S JUST THAT NO, I FEEL THAT WE WERE PUT IN A REALLY TOUGH POSITION.
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WE KNOW THAT WE NEED THE ROAD? YES.UM, IS IT SOMETHING IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRE CITY? ABSOLUTELY.
I JUST WISH THE PROCESS WOULD'VE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN PUT IN, UM, IN A REALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION, UM, WHEN VOTING FOR THIS ITEM, AND I KNOW I HAVE BEEN, I VOTED NO THAT THE PAST TWO TIMES JUST BECAUSE I NEEDED MORE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE LOSING THEIR HOMES.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE NEGOTIATION PROCESS WITH THEM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE TAKEN CARE OF OFF.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBER 10, 11, AND 12 SECOND.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[13.
(First Reading) Approve an Ordinance adopting the land use assumptions, capital improvements plan, and establishing an updated water impact fee totaling $7,984 per living unit equivalent (LUE) and an updated wastewater impact fee totaling $6,171 per LUE, amending Ordinance No. 298-2, and establishing an effective date. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer
- Public Hearing
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.
FIRST READING PROVEN ORDINANCE, ADOPTING THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN, AND ESTABLISHING, UH, AN UPDATED WATER IMPACT FEE TOTALLING $7,984 PER LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENT.
AND AN, UH, UPDATED WASTEWATER IMPACT FEE TOTALLING $6,171 PER L U E AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 298 DASH TWO, AND ESTABLISHING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, MR. LANGLEY, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? AM I ABLE TO RESCIND MY VOTE? YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA RE-VOTE ON THE LAST ITEM? I WANNA RE-VOTE ON THE ITEM.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? YOU CAN, UH, BRING A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION? LET ME CHECK THE RULES JUST TO MAKE SURE.
I'LL TELL YOU HOW IN A MOMENT.
OKAY, MR. LANGLEY, WE MAY NEED TO, UH, GET OUR LEGAL COUNSEL BACK AS WELL.
I JUST, I VOTED NO, AND I, I NEED TO VOTE YES FOR THIS.
WELL, THAT, THAT CAN BE DONE AT ANY POINT DURING THE MEETING.
SO LET'S MOVE ON WHILE THEY'RE HAVING THEIR DISCUSSIONS.
WE CAN COME BACK AND COME BACK TO THE ITEM IF YOU WANT.
YEAH, WE'RE ON, WE'RE ON IMPACT FEES RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, THIS ONE, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND THIS ITEM BE POSTPONED.
UH, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION ABOUT THIS, AND THEY'VE RAISED SOME QUESTIONS.
WE'D LIKE SOME TIME TO, TO DIVE INTO THOSE QUESTIONS WITH 'EM, ANSWER THEM, AND THEN COME BACK TO, TO CONSIDER IT AT THAT TIME.
WELL, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA LEAVE THIS ITEM OPEN AND MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SECOND BACK COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES SCALE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? WAS THAT AN AYE? ALL RIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 12.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KEL.
DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL I JUST, I JUST WANNA QUICKLY, OH, THIS IS JUST CONSIDERATION, RIGHT? YEAH.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED AS MS. LIBE ALREADY SAID.
SO IT REALLY MAKES NO SENSE FOR ME TO BE VOTING NO ON THIS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 10 THROUGH 12.
SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[14. Approve a contract with AGH20 HOLDINGS, LLC, Round Rock, TX in an amount not to exceed $307,777.00 to furnish and install new restroom foundations and utilities for restrooms at five (5) City parks as provided for in the proposal. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation]
[15. Approve a contract with RESTROOM FACILITIES, LTD, Marble Falls, TX in an amount not to exceed $690,270.00 for the design and construction of restrooms at five (5) City parks and other associated materials as included in the proposal. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation]
RIGHT.NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH A G H 20 HOLDINGS, UH, LLC RON ROCK, TEXAS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $307,777 TO FURNISH AND INSTALL NEW RESTROOM FOUNDATIONS AND UTILITIES FOR RESTROOMS AT FIVE CITY PARKS AS PROVIDED FOR IN THE PROPOSAL.
AND THEN I'M GONNA BRING UP AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 15 AS WELL.
APPROVE OF CONTRACT WITH RESTROOM FACILITIES LTD, MARBLE FALLS, TEXAS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $690,270 FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF RESTROOMS AT FIVE CITY PARKS AND OTHER ASSOCIATED MATERIALS AS INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL.
MS. ESPINOZA, MARIANA ESPINOZA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
THIS ITEM 14 AND 1514 IS FOR THE SUBGRADE FOR THE FOUNDATION OF OUR NEW PARK RESTROOMS. AND ITEM 15 IS FOR FIVE NEW PARK RESTROOMS LOCATED AT LAKE KYLE PARK, MARY KYLE HARTSON, PARK WATER, LEAF PARK, STEEPLECHASE PARK, AND GREG CLARK PARK.
UH, FOR THE RESTROOM FOUNDATIONS, THE RFP WAS POSTED FOR TWO WEEKS.
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ONE BID WAS RECEIVED AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF A TWO HOLDINGS.I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE PHOTOS ARE, BUT THERE'S PHOTOS HERE OF THE FOUNDATIONS AND THAT ONE AS WELL.
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 IS FOR THE ACTUAL PARK RESTROOM ITSELF, AND LET ME SHARE THAT ONE.
UH, THIS RFP WAS ACTUALLY POSTED TWICE THE FIRST TIME.
WE DID RECEIVE THREE BIDS, HOWEVER, NONE OF THE BIDS INCLUDED THE SUBGRADE FOUNDATION, SO IT WAS REPOSTED AGAIN FOR A SECOND TIME, AND WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE BID.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RESTROOMS FACILITIES LTD.
AND HERE ARE THE DESIGNS OF THE PARK RESTROOMS. AS YOU CAN SEE, MARI HARTSON PARK WOULD HAVE A FRONT PORCH AND WATER FOUNTAIN IN THE FRONT, WHEREAS THE OTHER PARK RESTROOMS WERE NOT.
AND THEN A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OF THE INSIDE OF THE RESTROOMS ARE ALSO ATTACHED.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IT WILL TAKE, UM, ABOUT 90 DAYS FOR THE PARK, RESTROOMS TO BE INSTALLED AND READY FOR USE.
AS YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY HOT OUTSIDE, RIGHT? THERE CAN NEVER BE ENOUGH WATER FOUNTAINS IN THESE PARKS FOR THESE KIDS.
SO LOOKING AT THE DESIGN FOR DOWNTOWN, VERY BEAUTIFUL.
WHAT WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL COST TO ADD WATER FOUNTAINS TO THE REST OF 'EM ON THE SIDE? I KNOW THE ARCHITECT DESIGN LOOKS VERY NICE.
MAYBE I WOULD'VE LIKED TO SEEN THE SAME CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE BOARD WITH ALL THE PARKS LOOKING THAT WAY, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM MS. PARSLEY'S, UH, HOLIDAY THEMES, CHRISTMAS.
IMAGINE HAVING LITTLE DECORATIONS ACROSS WREATHS AND ALL THAT ON ALL THE PARKS WITH THAT KIND OF DESIGN.
BUT BESIDES THAT, UM, THE WATER FOUNTAINS, UH, FOR THOSE PARKS MM-HMM.
SO I HAVE, UH, HECTOR GARCIA, WHO IS WITH RESTROOMS FACILITIES LTD ONLINE, WHO CAN PROBABLY BEST ANSWER THAT, BUT WE DID HAVE TO TAKE THE RESTROOMS AND THE OTHER PARKS OFF BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE FOUNDATION.
BUT, UH, MR. GARCIA, ARE YOU ABLE TO, UH, ANSWER APPROXIMATE HOW MUCH MORE WOULD COST? UH, YES.
UM, YEAH, TO ADD A, UH, DRINKING FOUNTAIN TO EACH OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, IT'S $5,040.
AND WHAT THAT IS, IT'S AN OUTDOOR GRADE, UH, DUAL HEIGHT ADA COMPLIANT, UM, DRINKING FOUNTAIN WITH A BOTTLE FILLER ON IT, AND THAT WILL BE INSET INTO AN ALCOVE, UH, MAKING IT 80 A COMPLIANT AS WELL.
UM, SO YEAH, TOTAL COST IS 5,040, UH, PER BUILDING.
UM, ONE THING WE CAN ALSO DO IN LIEU OF THAT, UH, WHICH WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER CITIES, IS WE CAN ACTUALLY RUN A SEPARATE WATER LINE.
IF YOU WANTED TO INSTALL, LET'S SAY A DRINKING FOUNTAIN, A STANDALONE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, WE CAN ALSO RUN A WATER LINE TO FACILITATE THAT FOR YOU AT NO COST.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THERE.
IF WE COULD MAYBE LOOK AT THAT, UH, CAUSE I KNOW AT STEEPLECHASE, THE WATER FOUNTAINS OUT ON THE SIDE, LIKE NEAR THE PLAYGROUND, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S STILL ONE BY THE ACTUAL RESTROOMS THEMSELVES, BUT LIKE I SAID, THERE'S, YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE.
AND IF, LET'S SAY THE WATER FOUNTAIN DOES GO DOWN, THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE OTHER ONE THERE.
AND ON THE, UH, KYLE HARTSON ONE, I SEE THAT IT HAS, UM, THE FOUNDATION OF A, OF A HIGHER LEVEL, UH, EVA, UH, BASICALLY YOU GOT CONCRETE IN THE FRONT.
I'M LOOKING AT FROM SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS TO GET UP THERE WITH A WHEELCHAIR OR WITH A STROLLER OR WITH A WALKER.
WOULD THAT, UH, WOULD THERE BE RAMPS THERE OR IS IT GONNA BE ON A BASE ON THE BASE GROUND? CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO, UH, UH, HAVE THAT DISABILITY BE ABLE TO GET UTILIZED THOSE BATHROOMS AND MAKING SURE THE DOORS ARE WIDE ENOUGH AS WELL, UH MM-HMM.
AND OF COURSE, INSIDE, I'M SURE THEY BE CHANGING TABLES AND ALL THAT.
RIGHT? SO OUR BUILDINGS ARE, THEY COME WITH AN ATTACHED EIGHT INCH THICK CONCRETE SLAB FOUNDATION, UM, THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING.
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UM, THAT EIGHT INCHES IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE, UM, BURIED INTO THE GROUND.SO THE TYPICAL INSTALLATION AND WHAT THE, UM, GC WILL BE DOING IS GRADING DOWN 10 INCHES, COMPACTING THE SOIL, PROVIDING TWO INCHES OF SAND, AND THEN THE BUILDING WILL GO ON TOP OF THAT.
SO THAT FINISHED FLOOR WILL BE LEVELED, UM, WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT FLAT WORK AROUND IT, THEN UM, THE GC WOULD ADJUST, BUT THAT, UH, FINISHED FLOOR WOULD BE, UM, EIGHT INCHES THICK.
UM, BUT THAT'LL BE LEVEL WITH THE, UH, WITH THE GROUND.
YOU WON'T HAVE TO PUT ANY KIND OF, UH, RAMPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND ALL THE BUILDINGS ARE GUARANTEED TO BE ADA COMPLIANT.
UM, SO THE DOORS, EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, HEIGHTS OF THE FIXTURES AND DISTANCES IN INSIDE, UH, FROM THE TOILETS TO THE SINKS AND EVERYTHING, UH, THAT'S ALL GUARANTEED TO BE ADA COMPLIANT.
DOES, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION FOR COUNSEL TO MAYBE LOOK INTO ADDING THOSE INITIAL WATER LINES FOR THE, FOR THE FOUNTAINS? FOR THE WATER FOUNTAINS? NO OBJECTION.
JUST TO CONFIRM THIS WOULD BE, WOULD, WOULD THAT COST BE ADDED TO AGENDA ITEM 14 OR 15? 15.
WHAT WAS THE TOTAL NUMBER AGAIN, MR. GARCIA? WHAT WAS THE 5,000? SORRY.
YEAH, THAT'S 5,040 TO ACTUALLY ADD A DRINKING FOUNTAIN WITH A BOTTLE FILLER.
THE DUAL HIGH DRINK YOU FOUND TO THE BOTTLE FILLER TO THE BUILDING.
IF YOU JUST WANT US TO RUN A WATER LINE FROM INSIDE OUR CHASE TO OUTSIDE THE BUILDING SOMEWHERE, THERE'S NO COST FOR THAT.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, AS LONG AS WE JUST HAVE AN ADDITIONAL WATER FOUNTAIN FOR WHEN CHILDREN OR FAMILIES THAT NEED TO GO USE THE BATHROOM, THERE'S A WATER FOUNTAIN RIGHT THERE AVAILABLE.
SO WHATEVER COST, UH, WE CAN GET TO, TO LOWER COST, WE CAN GET, I'M ALL FOR THAT.
SO, UH, MARIANA, HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT, OR, OR BRIAN, HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT ACQUIRING THOSE FUNDS? IS THERE A PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT? WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS BUDGETED FOR THE PARK RESTROOMS. SO BETWEEN THE PARK RESTROOMS AND THE SUBGRADE.
UH, SO I'D HAVE TO SEE HOW MUCH MORE IT WAS GOING TO BE.
UM, AND THEN REQUEST FOR WHEN I COME BACK WITH THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR MORE FUNDS, THE, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO HANDLE IT WITH A MOTION ON, ON THIS ITEM? MR. LANGLEY, YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION? YES, SIR.
WE CAN FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THAT.
IF YOU MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE, UM, UH, WHAT ARE WE CALLING, UH, THE WATER FOUNTAIN, WATER FOUNTAINS IN THESE FACILITIES, THEN WE CAN INCLUDE THAT.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND A MOTION, BUT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO GO FOR IT ALL.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY, IF WE'RE GONNA RUN THE LINE, WE DON'T GO AHEAD AND PUT IN THE F THE EQUIPMENT.
UM, I'LL, BEFORE WE AMEND, CAN I, SHE HAD HER HAND UP FIRST COUNCIL.
WELL, JUST IN CASE WE, WE JUST MAKE IT ONE AMENDMENT.
UM, SO THESE ARE EACH GONNA HAVE JUST, EACH PARK IS GONNA HAVE TWO RESTROOMS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
CAN WE GET MORE STALLS IN THERE? BECAUSE THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN NO RESTROOM IS ONE FOR BOYS AND ONE FOR GIRLS.
AND JUST BECAUSE THAT LINE IS GONNA BE, CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GONNA BE LIKE AT MER CAROL HART NEARING CHRISTMAS? UM, IS IT EVEN POSSIBLE TO DO MORE STALLS IN THE SAME AREA, MR. GARCIA? UM, YES.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT MODELS.
THE NEXT MODEL UP WITH OFFER TWO, UM, RESTROOMS ON THE WOMEN'S SIDE, TWO TOILETS, AND THEN A TOILET AND A URINAL ON THE MEN'S SIDE.
UM, THE CURRENT MODELS ARE DESIGNED TO, UH, HANDLE 90 PEOPLE PER HOUR.
UM, THE NEXT LEVEL UP IS 180 PEOPLE PER HOUR.
THIS TWO, TWO ROOM MODEL IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEE A LOT IN, UH, DOWNTOWN AREAS.
IN FACT, UH, WE'RE BASED OUTTA MARBLE FALLS, JUST, UH, ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF FROM
IT'S A LOT OF USE THERE, BUT I'VE BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES.
DOES HANDLE THE AREA REALLY WELL.
WE HAVE SEVERAL MODELS THAT MOVE ON UP.
SO IT, IT SEEMS THAT IT'S POSSIBLE.
WE JUST HAVE TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH MORE IT WOULD COST TO GET MORE STALLS IN THE RESTROOM.
SO MAYBE AN IDEA WOULD YOU WOULD MAKE, WOULD COME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE HAD ABOUT ADDING TWO STALLS TO DOWNTOWN, AND THEN THE COST FOR THE ADDITIONAL WATER FOUNTAINS FOR THOSE PARKS, AND THEN COMING BACK WITH, UH, AN AMENDED BUDGET.
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PROBABLY GONNA REQUIRE IT TO COME BACK, BUT COUNCILOR HEISER, I MEAN, SOMETHING TO LOOK AT LIKE THAT.UM, I'M LOOKING IN THESE, IN THE DESIGNS AND THE VENTILATION IN THE BATHROOMS. I ONLY SEE IT JUST IN THAT ONE PICTURE.
UH, IN THE, IN THE DESIGNS, THERE'S ONLY VENTILATION IN THIS ONE PICTURE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL BE VENTILATED? BECAUSE I MEAN, YEAH, MR. GARCIA DID SEND A COUPLE PHOTOS AFTER THE AGENDA WAS POSTED OF MORE OF THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
MR. GARCIA, DO YOU WANNA EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE VENTILATION OF THE INSIDE OF THE RESTROOM? YEAH, ACTUALLY, UH, WE DO HAVE VENTS, LARGE VENTS AT THE TOP OF THE GABLES ON THE FRONT AND BACKS OF THE BUILDINGS.
UM, THE BUILDINGS ACTUALLY STAY REALLY NICE.
WE, I'VE GOT BUILDINGS ALL OVER CENTRAL TEXAS, UM, UH, OUT IN LAKEWAY, THEY'RE, I VISIT THESE BUILDINGS QUITE OFTEN, GO INTO 'EM DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
AND, UH, WE DO GET A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS JUST CUZ OF THE WAY THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT.
UH, WE DO OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF, OF, UH, AIRWAY UNDERNEATH THE DOORS, SO THAT HELPS PULL AIR UP AND DRAW OUT THE LARGE VENTS AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.
SO THE BUILDINGS DO STAY NICE AND COOL.
UM, WELL, TO THE EXTENT THEY CAN IN, YOU KNOW, UH, CENTRAL TEXAS HEAT.
UM, BUT I, I CAN SAY THAT THEY DO HAVE GOOD AIRFLOW.
UM, VERY FEW OF OUR BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY AIR CONDITIONED.
UH, IN FACT, ALL THE ONES WE HAVE THROUGH CENTRAL TEXAS ARE ALL, UH, NATURALLY VENTILATED LIKE THAT.
AND WE'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS AS FAR AS HEAT GOES, OR, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE HEAT.
SO
DEFINITELY HAVING SOME GOOD VENTILATION IN THERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, IS THERE A COST DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE MARY KAY HEARTS, UH, DESIGN AND THE OTHER DESIGNS? UH, JUST BECAUSE I LIKE THE ONE WITH THE BEAMS AND THE LITTLE GABLE, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT COULD ADD SOME SHADE AS WELL.
SO I'M, MY PREFERENCE IS THAT THEY ALL LOOK LIKE THE MARY KAY HAR DESIGN, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AFFORDABLE, BUT WAS THERE, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? UM, BECAUSE SOME, THEY LOOK A LITTLE MORE SIMPLER, UM, COMPARED TO THE MARY KAY HART'S, THE MARIKEL HARTSON PARK RESTROOM DOES COST MORE THAN THE OTHER PARK RESTROOMS. AND SO THE PORCH WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THE OTHER PARK RESTROOMS THAT WE COULD STAY WITHIN THE 100 OR THE $1 MILLION BUDGET.
HOW MUCH DIFFERENT WAS EACH ONE? UH, MR. GARCIA IS ABOUT 20% MORE TO ADD.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT PORCH IS FOR ALL, I THINK FORMAL QUOTE.
THE FORMAL QUOTE THAT YOU HAVE THERE SHOULD HAVE EACH ONE, I BELIEVE.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IT WAS ABOUT A 15 TO 20% DIFFERENCE, I BELIEVE.
AND THAT'S TO HAVE A PORCH AND A WATER FOUNTAIN AT EVERY RESTROOM, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TOO ON THE MARY KYLE, UM, ADDING THAT STONE, RIGHT.
AND THE LAP, OR THE HARDY, UM, GORDON BAT SIDING TO GIVE IT THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN FIELD, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE ADDED TO THAT ALSO TO MATCH THE, UH, DOWNTOWN AREA THERE.
WHAT CAN, CAN YOU COME UP WITH THE MONEY? YEAH.
WELL, I, I THINK YOU'RE, I THINK SHOULD, I THINK YOUR COMMENTS ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.
YOU SHOULD GO FOR THE GOLDEN STANDARD, RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS CITY.
EVERY PARK SHOULD LOOK BEAUTIFUL, RIGHT? SO WHY DON'T WE, UM, WHY DON'T WE HAVE Y'ALL COME BACK MM-HMM.
LOOK, GIVE US A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AT THE NEXT MEETING, AND WE'LL JUST MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT.
WELL, I, I, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, THIS WAS A COMPETITIVELY, UH, BID.
SO IF THE COUNCIL'S NOT, UH, INTERESTED IN PROCEEDING WITH THIS OPTION, WE COULD DO A, WE COULD AWARD IT AND DO A CHANGE ORDER.
IF IT'S MINOR WORK, IF IT'S COMPLETELY REDESIGNING IT, WE PROBABLY NEED TO REJECT THIS AND START OVER WITH A NEW DESIGN AND REBID IT.
SO, UH, WHAT IS THE PROCUREMENT POLICY? 25%.
SO I THINK WE COULD STAY WITHIN THAT.
WOULD IT BE ALL RIGHT TO COMMENT REAL QUICK? YES, SIR.
SO WE, THE FIRST TIME WE BID, WE ACTUALLY DID ALL THE BUILDINGS WITH THE, UM, PORCHES AND, UH, THE TIMBER TRUSS ENTRIES THERE AND DRINKING FOUNTAINS.
THIS IS ACTUALLY, UM, PROBABLY GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE 25%, UH, ADDING THOSE ON THERE.
SO WE COULD DEFINITELY COME BACK, UH, WITH THOSE NUMBERS.
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YOU KNOW, UH, JUST WITHIN, I COULD PROBABLY GET 'EM TO YOU OH, EARLY NEXT WEEK HERE.WELL, IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THE ITEM, MAYBE WE COULD TABLE IT AND BRING BACK SOME INFORMATION TO IT AND HAVE YOU CONSIDER IT THE NEXT AGENDA.
I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR SCHEDULED.
UH, COUNCIL MEETING MOTION ON THE MAYOR, SECOND BACK COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, OR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD REALLY HELP BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO IF WE COME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MAYOR FLORES CARE ABOUT THE TWO STALLS, AND ALSO STALLING THE MURAL, AND THEN ALSO THE WATER FOUNTAINS FOR THE, THE PARK IN GENERAL.
AND THEN ALSO ZUNI, CUZ THE, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE WHOLE DESIGNS OF, OF MAKING EVERYTHING LOOKING UNIFORM ON THAT END.
UH, BECAUSE I, I THINK IT WOULD JUST MAKE IT, MAKE IT, MAYBE IT ENDS UP BEING THREE PROPOSALS, BUT JUST WHATEVER IT IS.
SO THAT WAY, CUZ ONCE WE BUILD IT, IT'S DONE.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.
BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE WATER FEATURES FOR THE CHILDREN.
ALSO, THE ADDITIONAL STALLS FOR, UH, CROWDS, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A LAKE KYLE, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED, UH, LAST MONTH WITH THE BIG FESTIVAL? MM-HMM.
CAN WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE LIKE A PARTITION IN THE URINALS? SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNEW, LIKE IT'S, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE WIDE OPEN.
TABLE 14 AND I JUST, IS THAT BAD? I'M JUST SAYING I GOT A 10 YEAR OLD SON.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? I WON'T SAY I AGREE WITH, BASICALLY WITH EVERY ADDITION, I THINK EVERY PROPOSAL MAKES IT BETTER.
AND RATHER THAN, UH, TRYING TO LIVE WITHIN A, A BUDGET THAT WE'VE CREATED, IF THE FUNDING IS THERE, LET'S GET WHAT WE WANT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THIS WAS A 2020 BOND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE, WE WE PUSH FOR.
AND IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A, A, A SHORTFALL, I'D LOVE TO SEE A, A PROPOSAL ON HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH THAT DIFFERENCE WITHOUT EATING INTO OTHER PORTIONS OF THE 2020 BOND.
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Authorize award and execution of a Purchase Order to VIKING CONSTRUCTION, INC., Georgetown, Texas, in an amount not to exceed $497,370.25, which includes a twelve (12) percent contingency, for the 2023 Miscellaneous Streets Micro-Surfacing Project. This award is authorized under the Interlocal Purchasing Agreement with the City of Grand Prairie, Texas providing for a cooperative purchasing program including micro-surfacing. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer
]IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16, AUTHORIZED AND EXECUTION OF A PURCHASE ORDER TO VIKING CONSTRUCTION, INC.GEORGETOWN, TEXAS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $497,370 25 CENTS, WHICH INCLUDES A 12% CONTINGENCY FOR THE 2023 MISCELLANEOUS STREETS MICROSURFACING PROJECT.
UH, THIS AWARD IS AUTHORIZED UNDER THE INTERLOCAL PURCHASING AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.
UH, MR. BARBA, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, LEON BARBA, CITY ENGINEER WAITING FOR MY PRESENTATION.
THIS IS OUR ANNUAL CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH VIKING, UH, CONSTRUCTION TO, UH, DO THE MICROSURFACING ON OUR STREETS.
AS, UH, THE MAYOR MENTIONED, IT'S, UH, WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL WITH, UH, GRAND PRAIRIE, CITY OF GRAND PRAIRIE TO DO THIS.
IT, UH, GIVES US A BETTER, UH, PRICE AND ALSO KEEPS IT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO BIDS EVERY TIME.
SO ACTUALLY, THERE'S ONLY TWO CONTRACTORS THAT DO THIS KIND OF WORK IN THE, IN THE TEXAS, THERE'S ONLY ONE, THERE'S ONE THAT'S OUTTA STATE.
SO THERE'S ONLY REALLY TWO, TWO CONTRACTORS THAT, UH, DO THIS KIND OF WORK.
NORMALLY, THE, UH, LOW BID IS GONNA BE FROM THE, UH, UH, VIKING CONSTRUCTION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BARBA? MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KE THERE.
DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE.
ALL THIS ITEM WAS GONNA BE ON CONSENT, BUT THEN IT WOULD'VE JUST BEEN A ONE ITEM CONSENT.
UM, WAS THERE ALSO MAYBE, UH, THE IDEA AFTER WE DO THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A SECTION OF GOFORTH IN FRONT OF SCIENCE HALL EVENTUALLY, THE SECTION IN FRONT OF SCIENCE HALL IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE DAISY LANE PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY'RE GONNA DO SOME MORE WORK IN THERE, STRIPING AND MOVED THINGS AROUND.
SO THAT'S WHY WE STAYED AWAY FROM THAT INTERSECTION.
WE JUST TOOK IT UP TO THE, UH, UH, ENTRY ROAD THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE LEFT IT OFF BECAUSE OF THE PLANNED WORK THAT THEY HAVE THERE IN THE FUTURE.
WELL, I'M GLAD WE'RE LOOKING AT KYLE PARKWAY, CUZ THAT'S LIKE IN FRONT OF WALMART, FRONT OF CVS, UH, WALGREENS AND ALL THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GOT LOWE'S.
AND THAT, THAT ROAD IS STARTING TO GET WORN DOWN A LOT.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE, I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT.
IF YOU NOTICE THERE'S A SECTION THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE WORKING ON.
IT'S BETWEEN THE, UH, PRIVATE ROAD THAT GOES TO LOWE'S.
AND BACK TO I 35, THAT SECTION, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, PUBLIC WORKS NEEDS TO WORK ON SOME UNDERGROUND, UH, SYSTEM.
THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH IT, SO THEY DIDN'T WANT US TO DO ANY KIND OF WORK IN THERE.
SO THAT STILL NEEDS SOME WORK.
BUT THAT'S, UH, I'M COORDINATING, COORDINATING THAT WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
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ALL.[17. A Resolution authorizing the creation of a citizen academy program called Team Kyle Academy with an estimated $2,600.00 in annual support costs for the program. ~ Rachel Sonnier, Director of Communications]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CREATION OF A CITIZEN ACADEMY PROGRAM CALLED TEAM KYLE ACADEMY WITH AN ESTIMATED $2,600 IN ANNUAL SUPPORT COST FOR THE PROGRAM.HELLO, COUNSEL, UH, RACHEL SONIER FOR THE, UH, RECORD.
SO, UH, WE ARE WANTING TO RELAUNCH TEAM KYLE ACADEMY FOR 2023.
UH, WHEN I GOT INTO PLANNING FOR IT THOUGH, UH, I WAS NOTIFIED THAT THE BUDGET FROM 2022 WAS DIRECTED BY A PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER TO, UH, NOT BE CARRIED OVER INTO 2023.
SO THIS IS A BUDGET REQUEST TO ESSENTIALLY BRING BACK A VERY SIMILAR PROGRAM TO WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, BUT FOR THIS YEAR AND TO APPROVE IT IN OUR BUDGET.
UM, SO JUST REAL QUICK ABOUT THE PROGRAM, LET ME, SORRY.
GO TO PRESENTER MODE REAL QUICK.
SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT TEAM KYLE ACADEMY.
UH, IT WAS CREATED TO BE, UH, A CONNECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY OF, TO MAKE, SORRY, A CONNECTED COMMUNITY OF INFORMED CITIZENS.
SHARING THE CITY OF KYLE'S PASSION FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGAGEMENT.
WE WANTED IT TO, UH, FOSTER PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CITY THROUGH EDUCATION AND INCLUSION IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH AN OPEN AND TRUSTING RELATIONSHIP WHILE SHARING CITY'S GOALS AND THE FUTURE.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S A SEVEN WEEK PROGRAM AIMED AT INFORMING RESIDENTS ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY, CREATING MORE CONNECTED AND PUBLIC SERVICE FOCUSED COMMUNITY HERE.
UH, BASICALLY IT GOES THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT WE HAVE IN KYLE, UH, AND A LITTLE EXTRA.
SO, UH, THINGS LIKE KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALSO GET INVOLVED IN IT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, AND THE CITIZENS BASICALLY JUST LEARN, UM, ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF CITY BUSINESS FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AND BUILDING AND WHAT ALL GOES INTO THAT TO COMMUNICATIONS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, POLICE, UH, KYLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND HOW ALL THOSE WORK.
AS WELL AS THINGS LIKE PANS ONE WORK AT PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL OF THAT.
ESSENTIALLY THE PROGRAM, THE WAY WE HAVE IT SET UP RIGHT NOW WOULD RUN FROM AUGUST 7TH THROUGH OCTOBER 3RD, AND THEY WOULD MEET MONDAYS FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UNLESS DESIGNATED OTHERWISE.
SOMEWHERE LIKE PUBLIC WORKS TRAINING FACILITY, KYLE PUBLIC LIBRARY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR A NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
UM, ESSENTIALLY, UH, IT'LL BE THOSE SEVEN CLASSES BETWEEN THAT DATE.
AND THEN, UH, PARTICIPANTS WILL ALSO NEED TO PUT COMPLETE THREE FIELD DAYS AND FIELD DAYS CAN BE ANY GIVEN CITY EVENT, CITY SPONSORED EVENT, CITY HOSTED EVENT.
UM, WE'LL PROVIDE, UH, A LIST OF CRITERIA FOR THE, UH, SELECTED FEW.
UH, THE CLASS WOULD BE LIMITED TO 24 PARTICIPANTS AND DINNER WOULD BE PROVIDED AT EACH CLASS.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE APPLICATIONS OPEN BETWEEN JULY 1ST AND 31ST.
IT IS A COMPLETELY FREE PROGRAM TO PARTICIPATE IN, UH, WITH NO APPLICATION FEE, THOUGH WE DO ASK PEOPLE TO APPLY.
AND, UH, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SELECTED.
UH, PARTICIPANTS CAN ONLY MISS ONE CLASS OR FIELD DAY.
AND, UH, THEY WILL, IF THEY HAVE ANY MORE THAN THAT, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO MAKE UP AN ABSENCE, UH, WITH SOME SI SOME SORT OF APPROVED EVENT OR ACTIVITY OR BY VOLUNTEERING, UH, TO GRADUATE FROM THE ACADEMY.
UH, THE ONLY REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THEY ARE 18 YEARS OR OLDER, HAVE NO CURRENT CIVIL OR CRIMINAL LITIGATION WITH THE CITY OF KYLE OR ANY OF ITS EMPLOYEES OR OFFICIALS, AND THAT THEY ARE NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
UH, WE ALSO ASK THAT EVERYONE SIGN A LIABILITY WAIVER.
AND, UH, ALL APPLICANTS ARE CHOSEN ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
ANY APPLICANTS THAT ARE NOT CHOSEN, THOUGH, WE WOULD PUT ON A WAITING LIST FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS A REALLY BASIC SCHEDULE, UH, WHAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.
WHAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN EACH DATE.
AUGUST 7TH WOULD BE ORIENTATION.
WE WOULD JUST GO OVER FOUNDERS HISTORY, OVERVIEW OF JUST KIND OF THE OVERALL CITY AND ITS ORGANIZATION, UH, AND THEN ALSO A MEET AND GREET WITH ALL OF OUR CITY LEADERSHIP THAT COUNCIL WOULD BE INVITED TO AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN ON AUGUST 14TH, WE WOULD START OFF WITH FINANCE, UTILITY BILLING, AND MUNICIPAL COURT AND HR, TELLING THE, UH, PARTICIPANTS WHAT THEY DO FOR THE CITY AND HOW THEIR DEPARTMENTS WORK.
AND THEN AUGUST 21ST WOULD BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PLANNING, BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
UH, AND THEN ON AUGUST 28TH WOULD BE INFRASTRUCTURE BASED, SO C I P PROJECTS, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE PUBLIC WORKS, ENGINEERING AND OUR, UH, STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION.
AND THAT ONE WOULD BE HELD AT THE KYLE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.
WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY CLASS ON LABOR DAY, AS WELL AS ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, JUST TO, UH, NOT COINCIDE WITH ANY OTHER EVENTS OR MEMORIALS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE ATTENDING.
AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, THEY WOULD PICK BACK UP WITH PUBLIC SAFETY.
THAT WOULD BE ONE HOSTED BY THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
UM, AND KYLE FIRE, UH, EMS, IF WE
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CAN GET THEM INVOLVED AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WOULD ALL BE A PART OF THAT ONE.UM, SEPTEMBER 25TH WOULD BE BEAUTIFICATION AND QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WOULD INVOLVE OUR WONDERFUL PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND TRADES AND LIBRARY AND COMMUNICATIONS, GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THEY WORK FOR THE CITY.
AND THEN THE VERY LAST ONE WOULD BE OCTOBER 3RD WITH THE GRADUATION AT THE, UH, FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN OCTOBER.
THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF EVERYTHING WE WOULD NEED.
UH, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT $250 PER WEEK FOR FOOD FOR 24 PLUS PEOPLE, UH, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE, UH, TEACHING THE CLASSES FOR EACH AND GIVEN ONE.
AND THEN, UH, $350 FOR SUPPLIES TO SUPPLY, THINGS FOR FIELD DAY PROGRAM PACKETS, GRADUATION CERTIFICATES, CLIPBOARDS, ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.
AND THEN, UH, T-SHIRTS, EACH PERSON THAT GETS ACCEPTED INTO THE PROGRAM WOULD GET A T-SHIRT THEIR SIZE.
THAT'S TEAM KYLE ACADEMY BRANDED TO A TOTAL OF $2,600.
AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU'LL HAVE.
IT'S LIKE, UH, KAYAK FOR ADULTS
UM, AND I THINK IT'S MUCH NEEDED.
IT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT.
UM, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT HOW OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGES WITH US IN THE CITY AND, AND, UM, I, I'M FINDING MORE AND MORE THAT THERE IS, UH, A LACK OF INFORMATION OUT THERE ON HOW OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY FUNCTIONS AND WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO HERE FROM THE DS AND WHAT STAFF IS, ISN'T, ISN'T ABLE TO DO.
UM, AND I JUST THINK IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY OF OURS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THROUGH THIS PROGRAM IS GONNA BE IMMENSELY HELPFUL TO, UM, TO STARTING TO HELP PEOPLE DURING THIS TIME OF EXPONENTIAL GROWTH WHERE THINGS ARE HAPPENING SO QUICKLY THAT THEY, THERE IS A BETTER COLLECTIVE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND WHERE WE CAN GO WITH, UM, A LOT OF THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT'S, THAT'S COMING HERE.
THE, THE ONE, A STIPULATION ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO RUN FOR OR NOT BEING, UH, UH, IF YOU'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, YOU DON'T QUALIFY.
I HAVE A, I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY, AND I ALSO DISAGREE WITH IT PROBABLY.
SO WE ARE HAPPY TO AMEND THESE RULES OKAY.
UH, BUT THE REASON THAT ONE WAS SPECIFICALLY PUT ON THERE WAS WE WANTED PARTICIPANTS THAT WEREN'T PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY PARTICIPATING.
WE WANNA REACH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ALREADY RUNNING FOR OFFICE, OKAY.
THAT ARE NOT ALREADY SUPER INVOLVED, THAT ARE NOT ALREADY ON BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WANNA REACH THE UNREACHABLE, SO TO SPEAK.
I WOULD JUST SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, ANYONE ELSE, FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DID CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY AND I LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT HOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FUNCTIONS INTERNALLY WITH COUNSEL, WITH STAFF, WITH RESIDENTS.
UH, AND IT'S INVALUABLE AS I SIT UP HERE NOW.
UM, SO IF, IF THERE WERE, I WILL SAY, I THINK A PROGRAM LIKE THIS WOULD BE A GREAT SEGUE FOR ANYONE WANTING TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
UM, WE'VE ONLY PUT THAT ON THERE BECAUSE WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO MAKE FIRST PRIORITY, AT LEAST THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ALREADY ACTIVELY SUPER INVOLVED IN THE CITY.
I HAVE MY HANDOVER GUESS WE PARSLEY, I'M GOING TO KIND OF DISAGREE AND AGREE WITH RACHEL.
I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
I MEAN, I, THE FIRST, AS SOON AS I SAW IT, I THOUGHT, I WANNA JOIN, I WANNA DO IT.
I MEAN, I'M ALREADY INVOLVED AND I SAID, OH, I CAN'T DO IT.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I AGREE THAT NOBODY RUNNING FOR OFFICE SHOULD BE APPLYING JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF YOU ARE READY RUNNING, IT'S BECAUSE YOU WANNA GET INVOLVED.
AND IT CAN BE ALSO USED FOR POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A CANDIDATE TO RUN AND THEN LEARN ABOUT IT, AND THEN MAYBE BE LIKE, I'M NOT INTERESTED.
THESE DATES DO NOT, UH, GO, THEY DON'T GO AS FAR AS THE ELECTION.
SO, UH, THIS IS OCTOBER, IT ENDS IN OCTOBER, AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE THAT A STIPULATION, LIKE IT'S OFF SEASON OR WHATEVER.
BUT FROM MY KNOWLEDGE OF THIS COMMISSION, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO LEARN.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LIMIT THOSE PEOPLE TO SOMEONE WHO MAY NOT BE INTERESTED.
UM, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF UNFAIR.
I THINK IT'S MORE F TO PUSH PEOPLE OUT THERE TO GET MORE INVOLVED.
AND IF IT GOES FROM LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M RUNNING TO, OH, THIS ISN'T WHAT I THOUGHT.
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UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.I, I DON'T WANT ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE ON THERE.
UM, FOR ME, I DON'T EVEN THINK WE SHOULD LIMIT IT IF YOU'RE IN A CIVIL LITIGATION.
CAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING YOU CAN GAIN FROM THAT.
YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA ACCESS ANY PROPRIETARY INFORMATION.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS CRIMINAL LITIGATION, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT
UM, SO IF, IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULD, UM, TAKE, I WOULD ALLOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND I WOULD PROBABLY TAKE OUT THE NO CURRENT CIVIL LITIGATION.
I, I DON'T THINK IT'S, UH, FAIR IF SOMEONE'S GONNA SUE IN A CIVIL WAY TO, TO PUNISH THEM AND NOT ALLOW THEM TO.
I THINK THAT WAS ADDED IN BY LEGAL LAST YEAR.
THESE ARE THE, I TOOK THE SAME RULES THAT WERE APPLIED LAST YEAR, THE SAME CRITERIA THAT WE MADE APPLICANTS FOR LAST YEAR AND APPLIED THEM TO THIS YEAR.
AND I THINK THAT WAS A ROLLOVER.
UM, IF I'M, I WASN'T INVOLVED WITH MAKING THE RULES FROM LAST YEAR.
SO, UH, THAT'S THE BEST I CAN FIND FROM MY RESEARCH.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMOVE THE, UH, NOT NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE NOT JUST ELECTED OFFICIALS COULDN'T DO IT.
SO NO ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT, UH, PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE WOULD.
SECOND MOTION MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORIS KALE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, THAT WE, UH, REMOVE THE PROVISION PROHIBITING, UH, CANDIDATES FOR LOCAL OFFICE FROM, UH, PARTICIPATING IN THE BOARD.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? SO, MAYOR PROTON, SO SOMEBODY NOTE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WE, IF ANYBODY WHO'S DECIDES TO FILE FOR CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED A SEAT TO TAKE THIS CLASS.
SO WE'RE ALLOW, WE'RE ALLOWING THEM TO TAKE A SEAT AS LONG AS CLASS IS IN FULL.
AS LONG AS THEY SIGN UP IN THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME.
WELL, I GUESS IT'S THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT'S SAYING THAT, OKAY, IF YOU GONNA, IF YOU WANNA RUN FOR ALL, IF IF I FILE OR SOMEBODY FILES, AND THEN THEY GET SELECTED AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE THAT SEAT.
SO THEY'LL LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT FINANCE, UTILITY, MUNICIPAL, ECONOMIC PLANNING, CHAMBER INFRASTRUCTURE, AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
WHY NOT DOING IT BEFORE? HUH? WHY NOT DO IT BEFORE? I MEAN, YOU COULD IF THE DATES WERE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S, IT WHAT? WAIT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR QUESTION.
SO WHY NOT DO THAT BEFORE YOU RUN? BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE DID THAT AND WE'RE JUST FINE IN MY OPINION.
SO AGAIN, I DO NOT WANNA LIMIT ANYBODY FROM RUNNING FOR COUNCIL.
AND I ALSO DON'T WANNA LIMIT ANYBODY FROM THIS ACADEMY.
I THINK IT'S SILLY, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE CHANCE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANNA GET INVOLVED AND NOT HAVE POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS SO THAT, THAT IS GETTING INVOLVED.
BUT NOT, NOT THAT YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, FILED TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR POSITION, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU WANNA DO IT.
SO IF THERE'S A RESIDENT WHO WANTS TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROCESS, THEN I THINK THEY NEED TO HAVE PRIORITY.
THAT, THAT IS JUST MY OPINION.
I MEAN, THERE IS MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS A, IS A GOVERNING BODY.
SHOULD WANT ANY PERSON WHO WANTS TO RUN FOR OFFICE ABSOLUTELY.
HAVE ACCESS ALL WELL HANG INFORMATION POSSIBLE.
I'M GONNA CALL ORDER TO THE TABLE.
THERE'S PLENTY OF, THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO HAVE DISAGREEMENTS.
YEAH, I WAS, I NEED A SECOND ON THAT.
THE QUESTIONS BEEN CALLED AND SECONDED.
UH, UH, THAT'S A NON DEBATABLE MOTION.
SO THE FIRST VOTE IS TO CEASE BASE DEBATE AND CALL FOR A MOTION.
UM, YEAH, MY COMMENT WAS JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT, HANG ON THE DEBATE.
WE JUST, WE JUST CALLED THE MO CALLED THE QUESTION.
SO, UH, THE MOTION THAT IS MADE IS TO, WAS THE MOTION TO AMEND ONLY OR IS IT TO APPROVE AND AMEND? I'M SORRY.
YEAH, WE CAN APPROVE AND AMEND.
I THINK I, WELL, NO, YOU MADE A MOTION.
I NEED CLARIFICATION ON WHAT, SO MY MOTION WAS JUST TO TAKE OUT THE RUNNING FOR OFFICE PART.
JENNIFER, IS THAT RIGHT? WAS IT TO JUST TO AMEND? YES.
OR WAS IT TO APPROVE? IT WAS TO REMOVE PEOPLE RUNNING FROM OFFICE.
OFFICE ALL, UM, ROLL CALL VOTE HEISER.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
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UP, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER[18.
(First Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas for the purpose of rezoning approximately 0.52 acres from Agriculture 'A' to Retail Service District 'RS' for property located at 1121 E FM 150, in Hays County, Texas. (Hector Rodriguez - Zoning - Z-23-0114) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 4-1 to recommend approval of the request.
- Public Hearing
FIRST READING IN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING.
APPROXIMATELY 0.5, TWO ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICE DISTRICT FOR, UH, FOR PROPERTY.
LOCATED AT 1121 EAST FM ONE 50 IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
UH, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTED FOR ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
AND THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WILL ATKINSON, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
UH, BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE, UH, A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 1121 EAST 7, 1 50 FROM AGRICULTURE TO RETAIL SERVICES.
ZONING, UH, AROUND IT IS, UH, IS AG PRIMARILY, UH, FROM THE ZONING PERSPECTIVE, UH, AND TO THE SOUTHEAST WE HAVE, UH, M THREE, WHICH IS A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.
AND, UH, WITH THE REQUESTED ZONING, THE LOCAL NODE, OR IT'S IN THE LOCAL NODE, EXCUSE ME.
AND THE RS ZONING IS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONALLY WHEN, UH, AS Y'ALL HAVE HEARD BEFORE, WHEN, WHEN WE RECOMMEND A ZONING CONDITIONALLY, IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND THE STREET NETWORK AND STUFF LIKE THAT AROUND IT.
FROM A, FROM A USE PERSPECTIVE, UM, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT FROM A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WITHIN THIS LOCAL NODE AS WELL.
UM, A LOCAL NODE IS A SMALLER VERSION FROM AN AREA PERSPECTIVE.
FROM THEN THE REGIONAL, NO, LIKE YOU SEE DOWN ON HIGHWAY 21 IN EAST F AND ONE 50.
SO THIS AREA IS SUPPOSED TO BE REDEVELOPING INTO MORE OF A COMMERCIAL AREA, ESPECIALLY ALONG EAST FM ONE 50.
SO STAFF DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM, AND WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THE REZONING FOR THIS SECTION.
UH, FOR UTILITIES, THE WATER IS COUNTY LINE, ESPECIALLY UTILITY DISTRICT.
WASTEWATER WILL BE A SEP THE EXISTING SEPTIC SYSTEM ON SITE, THEY ARE COORDINATING WITH HAYES COUNTY.
UM, IT IS EXCEEDINGLY FAR AWAY FROM ANY EXISTING WASTEWATER THAT THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE.
UH, POWER IS P E C AND THEY WILL REQUIRE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, A BUILDING PERMIT, AND ALSO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS THEY WOULD NEED TO BE UPGRADING THE LANDSCAPING AND THE PARKING AS WELL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU, MR. ATKINSON.
UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THERE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
SEEING NONE THE PUBLIC HEARING'S NOW OPEN, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR MOTIONS? COUNCILOR KEL? UM, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME, UM, OR DO YOU KNOW WHY THE ONE PERSON VOTED NO FROM P AND Z? THE QUESTION WAS COMING.
NO, I WAS, I WAS, I THOUGHT THAT QUESTION WAS COMING.
UH, IT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER CHASE AND, UH, THEY HAD A, A BRIEF CONCERN ABOUT, UM, THE MORE EXPANSIVE USES IN THE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT VERSUS SOMETHING SIMILAR, MORE SIMILAR TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS MORE RESTRICTIVE FROM A USE PERSPECTIVE.
UH, THE PRIMARY REASON THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED THE RETAIL SERVICES ZONING DISTRICT WAS TO PROVIDE A, A ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS 'EM TO DEVELOP BY RIDING IF THEY ARE TO ACHIEVE THE ZONING.
UH, AND THE REASON WHY COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WAS NOT CHOSEN WAS BECAUSE 70% OF THE PARKING HAS TO BE BEHIND THE FRONT BUILDING FACE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, UM, THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN GET PARKING INTO THE BACKYARD.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND A ZONING DISTRICT, WE WANT TO MAKE IT INTO A, A PROJECT THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY BUILD.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER FORCE COUNSELING BY THE MAYOR.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION COUNCILOR PARSLEY? SO IF A MATTRESS FIRM WERE TO GO IN THERE, THEY CAN, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY.
THE REASON WHY, IF I MAY TRY TO GET AHEAD OF YOUR NEXT QUESTION, I THINK MIGHT BE THE CASE.
UM, IT IS NOT A PLAIN UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR A SPECIFIC REASON WHERE WE COULD, IF IT WAS, UH, RESTRICT USES OUR CODE REQUIRES PLAIN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS TO BE IN EXCESS OF THREE ACRES BEFORE WE CAN CONSIDER THEM.
SO WHEREAS WE CAN'T RESTRICT THE USES BASED ON A STRAIGHT ZONING.
SO I, WHAT I DON'T WANNA HEAR IS LIKE SHE'S SAYING NO TO RETAIL ON THE EAST SIDE, CUZ THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT.
BUT IF YOU LED UP WITH A MATTRESS FIRM, YOU, DO YOU ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBERS TGA? YES.
I WAS, UH, A BIT PERPLEXED ABOUT THE, UM, UM, SEPTIC SAN SEPTIC SYSTEM.
IS THAT BECAUSE THE DWELLING THAT'S THERE IS AN ODOR DWELLING? SO THERE'S ALREADY A SEPTIC SYSTEM ON THE SITE? OR, AND THE SECOND QUESTION IS, WHY, WHY DID YOU SAY THAT THEY'RE FAR AWAY FROM OUR WASTEWATER CONNECTIVITY LINES WHEN THE WASTEWATER RUNS
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DIRECTLY DOWN ONE 50 INTO WATER LEAF.SO WHY WOULD THAT NOT BE AN UPGRADED, UM, DEVELOPER, UM, REQUEST THAT, I GUESS THAT WE START SHIFTING FROM SEPTIC SYSTEMS INTO, UM, WASTEWATER UNDERSTOOD MM-HMM.
THE CITY HAD A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN WATER LEAF.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT LINEAR FOOTAGE, UM, BUT WE HAVE A MINIMUM DISTANCE.
IF YOU EXCEED THAT FROM ANY EXISTING WASTEWATER LINES, YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED BY THE CITY STATUTE TO TIE INTO IT AND IT, IT MM-HMM.
AND SO, TO BE FAIR TO THEM, FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE DOING IT.
UH, THE CLOSEST WASTEWATER LINE IS ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE, OVER AT, UM, NEW COUNTRY ROAD AT THE FIRST INTERSECTION INSIDE.
AND IT'S, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DISTANCE AWAY.
SO, AND THEY ARE CORNERING AT HAYES COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM AS WELL.
CAME UP WITH ANOTHER QUESTION.
SO IS THIS THE, UH, LOT WITH THE DWELLING AND THEN THE LOT BEHIND IT? DID IT ALL GET COMBINED TOGETHER AFTER ALL? OR IS, ARE WE, OR IS THERE STILL TWO, UM, DIFFERENT BOUNDARIES THERE? THIS IS THE LOT WITH THE YELLOW HOUSE ON IT.
THAT'S ALSO ZONED, UM, RETAIL.
SO THE, THE LOT OUTLINED IN RED IS THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU MM-HMM.
UM, IT IS THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THAT'S THERE AND THEY'RE GONNA CONVERT IT INTO A, A RETAIL BUS, RETAIL BASED BUSINESS.
THE LOT BEHIND IT IS ZONED AG.
BUT THE LOT, THERE'S A, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY BETWEEN THIS LOT AND THEN THE LOT TO THE WEST, WHICH IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS THE ONE BEHIND IT.
COULD YOU CONSIDER IT A FLAGGED, LIKE A FLAG LOT? IT MUTUAL LIKE A LOT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A, A MAIN ENTRANCE.
I GUESS IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER PROPERTY.
IT HAS PUBLIC STREET ACCESS A LOT BEHIND IT.
NO, I THINK THOSE TYPES OF CONFIGURATIONS ARE ILLEGAL NOW.
WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IF THEY EVER CHOSE TO DEVELOP COUNCILS.
WILL COUNCILS WHERE FORCE CAME, DOES THAT DEVELOPMENT TO THE RIGHT, ARE THEY ALL SEPTIC? THE THE MANUFACTURED HOME PARK? YES.
THEY ARE ON, UM, THEY ARE ON A PRIVATE WASTEWATER SYSTEM THAT HAS ALL THEIR SEWER TYING IN FROM EACH HOME DOWN TO OUR PUBLIC ACCESS POINT DOWN AT THE CREEK, WHICH IS A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT WAY TO THE NORTH.
UM, IS THAT HOUSE GONNA STAY THERE? PROBABLY.
SO WITH OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, THE OWNER, THEY'RE WANTING TO CONVERT THE HOME AND IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE BROUGHT UP TO ADA COMPLIANCE AND WHAT HAVE YOU AS WELL TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT EVERYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC CAN UTILIZE FACILITY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER, HANG ON, HANG ON, HANG ON.
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(First Reading) An ordinance amending the Code of Ordinances of the City of Kyle, Texas; amending Chapter 54 (landscaping and Screening Requirements) of the City of Kyle, Texas, Authorizing the City Secretary to amend ordinance 912 of the City of Kyle so as to reflect this change. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 5-0 to approve with amendments outlined in the staff memo.
- Public Hearing
SO AS TO REFLECT THIS CHANGE, UH, THIS ITEM HAS A PUBLIC HEARING PLAN IS ZONING, VOTED FIVE OH TO APPROVE WITH AMENDMENTS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF MEMO.
UH, COMMISSION COUNCIL MEMBERS.
LEMME PULL UP MY POWERPOINT PRESENTATION REAL QUICK.
UM, SO TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, A PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 54.
THIS IS OUR LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING ORDINANCE.
UH, THIS ORDINANCE WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL, UH, PROBABLY, UH, A LITTLE OVER SEVEN MONTHS AGO.
UM, WITH THE GOAL TO REDUCE OUR WATER USAGE WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, AS FAR AS LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS GOES, UM, I DID PROVIDE A SPREADSHEET.
UH, IT SHOWS A DETAILED LIST OF CHANGES WITH SOME REASONING, AND THEN IT WAS UPDATED TO INCLUDE, UH, P Z'S RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT AS WELL.
UM, AGAIN, MAJOR CHANGES ARE FOCUSED ON THE FOLLOWING ISSUES.
UM, MOST OF THESE ARE GONNA COVER ALLOWANCES FOR ARTIFICIAL PLANTS AND GRASS.
IT WOULD ALLOW COMMERCIAL PROJECTS TO USE MORE ZEROSCAPING.
UM, IT DOES REMOVE THE ALLOWANCES TO UTILIZE VEGETATION AS REQUIRED SCREENING, AGAIN, TRYING TO REMOVE HIGH WATER INTENSE USES AND THEN PROVIDES IT, UH, AN INCENTIVE
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TO INSTALL RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEMS, UH, WITHIN THE PROPOSED OR EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS.UM, I DO WANT TO GO OVER SOME OF P Z'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
THERE WERE SEVERAL, AND SO THERE ARE QUITE A BIT OF CHANGES.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN TOUCH ON THOSE, UH, AS WE'RE DONE.
UM, THIS SECTION 54 3, UH, MAINTENANCE.
THEY WANTED TO ADD LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY ARTIFICIAL PLANTS OR TURF, UM, WOULD BE ALLOWED.
UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE ADDRESS, UH, WOULD ADDRESS FADING COLOR.
UM, MAINTENANCE, UH, JUST LOOK A FEEL THEY WANTED TO STRAIGHTEN, STRENGTHEN, AND TIGHTEN UP THAT LANGUAGE.
UM, AS WELL AS IT ADDED SOME, UH, RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM LANGUAGE FOR MAINTENANCE AS WELL.
UH, KEEPING WITH THE MAINTENANCE SECTION, SUBSECTION C, UM, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE RAINWATER SYSTEM, UM, THE, UH, THAT WAS INSTALLED WOULD BE DONE WITH SOME OTHER TYPE OF INCENTIVE.
THEY WERE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH INCREASING PARKING, UH, AS AN INCENTIVE.
SO THEIR, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT REDUCE IMPERVIOUS COVER OR ADD MORE PARKING, UM, AS AN INCENTIVE FOR THAT SECTION 54.4 PLANNING CRITERIA.
UH, THIS WAS A KIND OF A, A, A MINOR CHANGE.
THEY WANT TO KEEP THE CURRENT LANGUAGE OF USED AND NOT UTILIZE THE TERM AUTHORIZED.
UM, BUT THEY DID NOT WANT TO ALLOW ARTIFICIAL TURF, UH, IN SOME OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS, THEY WERE OKAY WITH, UH, UH, SMALL PORTIONS OR ARTIFICIAL PLANTS, BUT THEY WERE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE ALLOWANCE OF TURF.
UH, THIS WAS SOMETHING WE DID ADD, UH, AGAIN, UH, THIS SECTION B2 D UH, SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSES, UM, AROUND SENSITIVE, UH, FACILITIES.
SO LIFT STATIONS, UH, WATER TOWERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT HAD COME UP THROUGH SOME OF OUR STAFF DISCUSSIONS.
SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD PUT THAT IN THERE AS, AS WE WERE HAD THIS SECTION OPEN.
UH, IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE NEW DEVELOPMENTS ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
UM, THERE WAS BEEN SOME CONCERNS, UM, THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED, UH, REGARDING FENCING, SOUND NOISE ALONG THOSE, THOSE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
SO, UM, HOWEVER, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE WOULD ALLOW EXISTING HOMEOWNERS WHO HAD HAD, UH, MAYBE WOOD FENCES THAT THEY COULD REPLACE WITH LIKE MATERIALS.
SO THEY RECOMMENDED ADDING SOME LANGUAGE THERE.
UM, THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE CURRENT LANGUAGE.
THEY DID NOT WANNA DELETE THAT SUBSECTION.
UH, THIS WAS THE SECTION THAT SAID YOU COULD SCREEN YOUR PROPERTY THROUGH EXISTING, UH, NATIVE VEGETATION.
SO THERE WAS AN EXISTING STOCK OF TREES.
UM, THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS THAT TO COVER YOUR SCREENING FOR THE SITE.
UM, STAFF WAS, UH, RECOMMENDING A REMOVAL OF THAT, BUT THEY WANT TO KEEP THAT ALLOTMENT.
UM, IT DOES GIVE THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY TO DISPROVE THOSE.
SO STAFF WAS, IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UM, SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES IN THERE.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE AS YOU HAVE.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED ANY CLARIFICATION AT THIS TIME.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, THIS ITEM, CUSTOMER OR PARSLEY? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M JUST SO EXCITED TO SEE THIS.
LIKE, I FEEL LIKE MOST OF US HERE HAVE PROBABLY PUSH FOR SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, CHANGES THAT WILL HELP TO, UM, MAINTAIN OR, YOU KNOW, HELP, UM, WITH THE WATER LEVELS AND THE USAGE OF WATER.
UM, I THINK ALL OF US IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS HAVE REACHED OUT TO, YOU KNOW, WILL OR JERRY, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
SO I AM REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS.
UH, WHAT WAS THE CONVERSATION AROUND REMOVING THE, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF? TURF? YEAH.
UM, IT HAD MOST TO DO WITH MAINTENANCE.
UM, THEY WERE CONCERNED THE, THE LOOK OF THAT, UH, WHATEVER MATERIAL THEY WERE USING.
UM, CURRENTLY THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PRODUCTS OUT THERE FOR ARTIFICIAL TURF.
UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE IT IS A VIABLE USE, ESPECIALLY IN HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS.
UM, SO WHETHER THAT'S KIND OF DOG PARK AREAS, UH, PUB COMMON PUBLIC PLACES, UH, PLACES THAT MAYBE GET A LOT OF SHADE BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, HIGH, HIGH BUILDINGS OR DENSITY.
SO I I, THAT WAS THEIR BIG CONCERN WAS THE MAINTENANCE AND HOW THAT WOULD LOOK OVER THE LAST.
SO PROJECT I, I, I THINK THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF DEFINITELY HAS THOSE RISKS OF, OF STARTING TO LOOK BAD OVER TIME.
AND THEN ALSO THERE'S IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ISSUES.
THAT SAID, UH, IT IS A VERY VIABLE, LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT MARY KYLE HARTSON CITY SQUARE PARK, IT IS A GREAT COMBINATION OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ENCOURAGE, UM, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT PARTICULAR STYLE, LIKE WHAT WE SEE AT MARICO HARTSON PARK, OR LIKE YOU SAY, IN HIGH USE AREAS WHERE THE, THE GRASS CAN GET WORN OUT OR VERY, YOU KNOW, SO IS THERE A, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING MAINTENANCE AND ALSO ADDRESS THE, THE POTENTIAL FOR INFERIOR PRODUCTS TO BE INSTALLED SO THAT
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WE'RE, WE'RE STILL ENCOURAGING LIMITED AMOUNTS OF ARTIFICIAL TURF IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT HAVE TO BE INSTALLED TO A, TO A PARTICULAR STANDARD.CAN WE, CAN WE DO THAT AND STILL ENCOURAGE IT? UM, YOU CAN, YOUR COUNSEL, Y'ALL CAN DO WHAT YOU'D LIKE.
UM, SO STAFF CAN PROVIDE LANGUAGE.
WE CAN STRENGTHEN OR BEEFING UP THE, UM, THE LANGUAGE ON MAINTENANCE.
WE CAN PUT SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE ON FADING, UH, GOOD WORKING ORDER, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, INSTALLED PROPERLY.
UM, BUT IF IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ALLOWANCE IN THERE, THEN, THEN WE DON'T NEED TO BRING THAT LANGUAGE IN.
I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THIS IS FOR REQUIRED LANDSCAPING AREAS.
UM, SO IF, IF YOU'VE AGREE WITH P AND Z AND YOU DON'T WANT THE, THE TURF THAT, THAT YOU KIND OF SPECIFY FOR ALL AREAS, UM, IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH P AND Z AND YOU WANNA MAKE SOME CHANGES, THEN JUST GIVE STAFF SOME, SOME SPECIFICITY ON, ON WHERE THOSE AREAS ARE.
IF IT'S JUST IN THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING SECTION, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT BEING IN OTHER PARTS, BUT MAYBE NOT MORE THAN A CERTAIN TOTAL PERCENTAGE, UM, WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS.
BUT, SO THIS IS, THIS IS FIRST READING.
SO IF COUNCIL'S GENERALLY OPEN TO THE IDEA OF EXPLORING IT MORE, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO PASS THIS ON FIRST READING AND THEN DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK, UH, SOME RESEARCH AND ROBUST OPTIONS CONSIDERING THE FEEDBACK THAT, THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING.
IS THAT SOMETHING Y'ALL ARE OPEN TO THAT WAY? CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HAMMER THAT OUT RIGHT AT THIS VERY MOMENT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE SOME RESEARCH CUZ I AM HEAVILY LEANING TOWARDS NO ARTIFICIAL GRASS.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY KNOWS WHY, BUT I'M NOT A FAN OF THE WAY OF JUST THE USE OF IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, I KNOW YOU CAN WASH IT OUT, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE PETS THAT USE THE RESTROOM THERE OR SOMEBODY THROWS UP IN THERE, IT'S, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A LOT HARDER TO CLEAN.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I, I'D RATHER FOR HYPO CLEAN REASONS, I'D RATHER NOT SEE THAT IN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS.
I THINK IT DOES WORK AT MARY KYLE HARTSON, BUT I, TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT, I THINK IS, IS A DIFFERENT ASK.
SO ALLOWABLE, ALLOW ALLOWED IS THE KEYWORD THERE, SO.
AND I BELIEVE, UH, WE LIMITED THAT THAT ALLOWANCE TO 10% OF YOUR REQUIRED LANDSCAPE SCREENING.
SO, UH, AND THEY REMOVED THAT, UH, WELL THEY, THEY RECOMMENDED REMOVAL OF ANY ALLOTMENT FOR, FOR TURF.
SO, UH, IF, IF COUNCIL AGREES WITH THAT, WE WOULD UPDATE THE ORDINANCE AND THE DRAFT TO, TO FOLLOW SUIT.
WELL WE CONSIDER HAVE 10% TO HAVE ANY INCENTIVES.
YOU KNOW, THE MORE THEY USE SURF OR ARTIFICIAL GRASS, IT LOOKS PRETTIER.
AND IF THEY'RE GONNA USE IT FOR COMMON AREAS WHERE MAYBE PETS ARE NOT GONNA BE, UM, USING IT FOR, YOU KNOW, DOING BUSINESS PURPOSES.
THERE, THERE ARE BENEFITS TO IT AND THEIR DETRI DETRIMENTS TO IT.
PROPOSAL WAS TO ALLOW TO 10% AS AT A MAXIMUM, THAT SEEMS FAIRLY REASONABLE TO ME.
BUT, AND I, AND I WOULD SAY THAT'S 10% OF THE REQUIRED.
SO IF YOUR SITE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE, SAY 15% LANDSCAPING, ONLY 10% OF THAT CAN, 1.5%.
WELL, CAN YOU, CAN YOU LOOK AT THAT, LOOK IN, MAYBE SEE WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE WITH REGARDS TO ADDRESSING SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES, THE INSTALLATION ISSUES, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE CONSIDERATIONS, AND JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
JUST CUZ I THINK WE ALL HAVE INTEREST IN VARIOUS CAPACITIES THERE TO TRY TO DRILL DOWN ON THAT.
WE CAN ALSO BRING BACK SOME EXAMPLES IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SOME DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA THAT, THAT ARE UTILIZING THOSE, UM, WE CAN PROVIDE SOME PHOTOS FOR, FOR YOUR REVIEW.
THE, THE LAST CONVERSATION I REMEMBER WAS THE RAILHOUSE, THAT WAS MANY YEARS AGO NOW, BUT THEY WANTED TO PUT IN ARTIFICIAL TURF IN CERTAIN AREAS, UH, AND THE CODE DIDN'T ALLOW FOR IT.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAD TO GIVE THEM A VARIANCE TO PUT THAT IN IN CERTAIN SPOTS.
AND IT IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL THERE AS OPPOSED TO IF IT WAS JUST GRASS THAT GETS WORN OUT OR IF IT'S RAINING AND IT'S WET AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW, TRACKED UP.
SO THERE ARE PLACES WHERE IT COULD BE APPROPRIATE.
UH, CUSTOMER FLOOR, UH, CUSTOMER ZUNIGA.
SO CAN I ASK TRACY TO SAY SOMETHING, IF YOU'D LIKE TO CALL HER UP, CAN YOU COME UP AND EXPLAIN UM, THE ARTIFICIAL TURF SITUATION WITH THE WATER LEAF, UM, TRACY SHIELD PRESIDENT FOR WATER LEAF FALLS HOA, UH, IN THIS CAPACITY? UM, YES.
AT OUR PA PAST, UH, BOARD MEETING, WE JUST APPROVED TO PUT IN ARTIFICIAL TURF IN AN AREA OF OUR PARK.
BECAUSE OF THE GRASS, UH, THE TREES HAS CREATED SO MUCH SHADE THAT GRASS WILL NOT GROW.
AND OF COURSE WE THOUGHT ABOUT MULCH, WE THOUGHT ABOUT ROCK AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT KIDS AND MULCH AND ROCK
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PROBABLY DON'T, UM, MATCH TOO WELL SOMETIMES.SO WE ARE GOING TO BE INSTALLING ARTIFICIAL GRASS OR ARTIFICIAL TURF IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW THAT WORKS FOR US.
SO IF YOU WANNA USE US AS A TEST SITE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, BUT IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A PORTION OF OUR PARK.
SO HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT IF OUR CODE DOES NOT ALLOW FOR IT? THAT'S WHAT I WAS, YOU KNOW, SAYING, UH, WAIT A MINUTE, CUZ DOES OUR, JASON, DOES OUR CURRENT CODE ALLOW FOR IT? I DIDN'T THINK IT DID.
UM, OUR CURRENT CODE ALLOWS FOR ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE IF YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VARIANCE PROCESS, UH, WOULD'VE TO, IT'S NOT, IT'S ACTUALLY A, A, A STAFF PROCESS.
UM, THERE'S SOME CRITERIA ON WHEN IT CAN AND CAN'T BE CONSIDERED.
UM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO A VARIANCE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE EITHER SOME TYPE OF, UH, ISSUE WITH THE, WITH THE LOT OR LOCATION OR DRAINAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, SO IF WE PASS THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WOULD THAT ELIMINATE YOUR ABILITY TO LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS FOR ARTIFICIAL TURF? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
THE, THE SECTION THAT WE REALLY ADDED THIS IN WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING, JUST SO WE CAN KIND OF STRENGTHEN THAT UP.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION OF CODE THAT, THAT JUST SPEAKS TO ALTERNATIVE GRASS.
UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY CALL OUT ARTIFICIAL TURF, BUT IT USES THE, THE TERM TURF.
IF THE CODE SAYS THAT IN THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF IS NOT ALLOWED, HOW COULD THEY THEN GO TO STAFF AND HAVE YOU LOOK WITHIN THEIR REQUIRED LANDSCAPING TO INSTALL ARTIFICIAL TURF? THERE'S, THERE'S A SUBSECTION THAT IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF WEIRD.
IT, IT SPEAKS TO ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS.
SO IT DOESN'T REALLY SPEAK TO, TO TURF ITSELF.
UM, STAFF COULD TAKE A VERY LIBERAL INTERPRETATION OF THAT AND CONSIDER ALL MATERIALS.
UM, OR THEY COULD TAKE A VERY STRICT INTERPRETATION AND SAY, NO, THIS SUBSECTION ABOVE IT HERE WOULD OUTWEIGH THIS SECTION HERE.
I FIND THAT PERPLEXING, BUT OKAY.
I KNOW IT'S NOT THE BEST ANSWER, UH, BUT THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE CODE'S AT.
WE'VE, WE'VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT TURF IN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS AS WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS COME UP.
SO, UM, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR PROJECT, SO I, I COULDN'T ANSWER HOW, HOW, HOW THAT WAS APPROVED OR NOT.
WELL, BUT I, I I GUESS TYPICALLY IF YOU ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING OTHER, AND I'M SORRY TO HARP ON THIS, BUT IT'S A KIND OF A SERIOUS ISSUE.
LIKE TYPICALLY IF YOU'RE A APPLYING FOR A LANDSCAPING PERMIT AS A PART OF A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE FOLLOW THE LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE THAT WE PASS.
YOU HAVE TO READ THE RULES AND YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT.
IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT THE RULES SAY.
IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF IS NOT ALLOWED.
IF WE ADOPTED THE AMENDED, UH, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE IN ORDER TO GO AROUND THAT.
THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE EXACT CHANNEL.
SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, CUZ WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT TECHNICALLY IF Y'ALL, IF STAFF SAYS, UH, ACTUALLY IT'S FINE, THEN IT CAN JUST BE FINE.
SO THE FIRST SECTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS REQUIRED LANDSCAPING.
UM, SO THIS IS THE AREAS THAT, THAT THE CODE SAYS, HEY, YOU'RE DOING X AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOT, YOU HAVE TO PLANT THIS MUCH IMPERVIOUS COVER IN GREENERY.
THE SUBSECTION SHE'S UNDER IS, IS, IS JUST AN EXCEPTION SECTION AND IT HAS AN ALTERNATIVE PATH THAT DOES NOT MENTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OR VARIANCES.
BUT YOU'RE APPLYING THE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE APPLYING THE VAGUE LANGUAGE TO THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING.
SO IF IN THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT IN A PROHIBITED ITEM, YOU COULD STILL STA YOU'RE SAYING YOU STAFF COULD STILL JUST SAY YES TO THAT? YES.
SO IF, IF WE GET DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL TO, TO MODIFY AND PROHIBIT AT ALL, THEN WE WOULD CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MATCH.
IF COUNSEL HAS DIRECTION THAT WE ALLOW THEM, THEN WE WOULD CLEAN UP THAT LANGUAGE TO MATCH AS WELL.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM THERE.
NO, I, I JUST, I'M PERPLEXED, I KIND OF GET WHAT, UH, MAYOR MITCHELL IS SAYING, LIKE THERE'S NO NEED FOR A, UM, VARIANCE AT ALL IF, IF STAFF HAS THE ABILITY JUST TO SAY YES OR NO.
SO I GUESS, ANYWAY, I WAS, I WAS GONNA APPROVE THIS.
I DON'T KNOW, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS LEFT.
I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE FOR STAFF THAT WE'D NEED TO ANSWER IS, IS WHETHER COUNSEL WOULD LIKE TO USE TURF OR NOT.
UM, IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THEN WE CAN CLEAN THIS UP, MAKE IT MATCH.
IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THEN, THEN WE BRING THAT THAT BACK AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE DO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF DIRECTION ON, ON THIS ISSUE.
SO IF WE SAY YES, BUT A PERCENTAGE
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DOES THAT WORK? WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE NEGATIVE, LIKE, THE IMPACTS OF USING TURF? UM, I DON'T WANT TO NEGATIVE IMPACT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE PERSON LOOKING AT IT.SOME PEOPLE MAY SAY IT'S UNSIGHTLY.
UM, MAYBE IT DOESN'T FIT IN ON THE ONE HOUSE IN AN ENTIRE STREET THAT HAS GRASS AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS GRASS AND THEY HAVE TURF.
UM, BUT, BUT THERE ARE, ARE BENEFITS TO HAVING IT.
THE THE NEGATIVE ISSUE WITH IT IS SOME OF THEM CAN HAVE A HIGH IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UM, SO YOU HAVE TO CALCULATE THAT INTO, INTO YOUR SITE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE MAY BE SOME MORE STORM WATER RUNOFF.
UM, THE POSITIVES ARE, IT'S EASIER TO CLEAN.
UM, IT STAYS GREEN YEAR ROUND.
I, I GUESS THAT COULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED A NEGATIVE CUZ IN FALL WHEN EVERYONE'S YARD IS, IS BROWN, THIS ONE WILL BE GREEN.
SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MOVING, A LOT OF MOVING PIECES ON, ON CURB.
I, I I, I DISAGREE WITH NOT ALLOWING TURF.
I THINK TURF NEEDS TO BE ALLOWED FOR PEOPLE TO USE.
I MEAN, IF, IF I COULD AFFORD IT, MY WHOLE HOUSE WOULD BE FAKE GRASS.
SO I, SO IT WOULD LOOK GREEN ALL THE TIME.
SO BEFORE, BUT JUST FYI, BEFORE WE MAKE MOTIONS, I DON'T THINK I EVER DID THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.
I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT JUST FYI.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE'D RECOMMEND THAT YOU HAVE OPTIONS TO ALLOW IT.
AND I'VE SEEN MANY EXAMPLES, UM, IN OTHER CITIES WHERE IT'S BEEN DONE REALLY WELL.
IN FACT, MY PRIOR CITY, WE HAD OUR ENTIRE PLAZA DONE IN TURF FOR THE EXACT REASONS THAT JASON WAS TALKING ABOUT.
LOTS OF TRAFFIC, UH, COULD BE USED YEAR ROUND, DIDN'T HAVE ANY KINDA ISSUES WHEN IT GOT WET.
IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE AND LOOKED REALLY, REALLY NICE.
BUT THERE ARE VARIATIONS OF THE PRODUCT OF WHAT, WHAT'S, UH, A GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT AND WHAT'S NOT.
SO WE CAN BRING YOU SOME EXAMPLES AND HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.
BUT CAN WE ACTUALLY PUT THE EXAMPLES OF THE GOOD PRODUCT YES.
IN THE LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE? YES.
TO REQUIRE THAT THE, IF YOU WANT IMPER, IF YOU WANT THE ARTIFICIAL TURF THAT IT HAS TO BE THIS TYPE OR, OR, OR GREATER, I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I'M KIND OF THINKING OF THE OLD, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF, WHICH IS ALMOST LIKE CARPET THAT YOU PUT DOWN.
THIS IS REALLY MORE LIKE A NATURAL GA GRASS LOOKING SURFACE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO DESCRIBE IT, BUT I THINK WE CAN FIND A WAY TO JUST WHAT WE DID AT MARY CALL HARTSON.
CAUSE THAT STUFF'S AWESOME, RIGHT? CUSTOMERS GO NATURAL.
CAUSE I'M AS WELL HAD A LOT OF, UM, CONFUSION.
SO JUST TO GET CLARITY, IF, IF A HOMEOWNER DECIDES, THEY'RE SAYING AUGUSTINE, IT'S TOO HARD TO KEEP REPLACING, ARE THEY OUT OF COMPLIANCE? UM, HAVE THEY CREATED A VIGILANTE ACTION, UH, BY REPLACING THEIR GRASS WITH, UM, ARTIFICIAL TURF BY CITY CODE? WOULD THEY BE FINED? UM, AT THIS POINT THEY WOULD NOT.
SO IT, IT, THE CURRENT CODE DOES NOT ALLOW IT UNDER THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING.
THERE IS AN EXEMPTION SECTION.
UM, AND SO IF SOMEONE INSTALLED IT ON THEIR HOUSE, SAY 100% OF THEIR YARD, UM, BUT THEY WERE A, THEY WOULD BE IN COMPLIANCE, THEY WOULD BE OUT OF, THEY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION IF THEY DID NOT GET A PERMIT FOR US.
AND SO ONE OF THE TWO THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IS, ONE, ARE THERE ANY EXTENDING EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT, THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF USE.
BUT THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANTLY WAS IS, IS HAS THERE BEEN A STUDY ON THE IMPERVIOUS COVER CALCULATIONS? RIGHT.
SO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HAVE TO HAVE, UH, THEY'RE LIMITED ON THEIR IMPERVIOUS COVER.
IF THEY WERE TO USE A CERTAIN MATERIAL, SOME OF THESE MAY, MAY BE IN THEMSELVES ONLY 50% PERUS, SOME OF THEM MAY BE ONLY 10% PERUS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO RUN THAT THROUGH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR ENGINEERING, WE'D HAVE TO REVIEW IT THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT SIDE.
SO, SO A PERMIT IS REQUIRED TO DO IT? YES.
WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK, WE WOULD NEED A PERMIT.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE A, A SOD PERMIT AS PART OF OUR BUILDING SIDE.
UM, BUT IF, IF THAT QUESTION COMES UP, WE WOULD HAVE TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROCESS THAT THROUGH BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY THE IMPERVIOUS COVER CALCULATIONS FOR THE LOT.
I DUNNO HOW YOU WITH THIS, UM, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? NO.
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
TRACY SHIELD, UH,
AND, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF, UH, ARTIFICIAL TURF BROUGHT IN AND, UH, WE LOOKED AT IT AND IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD.
I MEAN, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF DRAINAGE UNDERNEATH.
AND EVEN TO PREP THE SITE FOR THE TURF, JUST DON'T LAY IT OVER GRASS AND BE
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BE GONE WITH IT.YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO PREP THE SITE FOR IT.
AND SO THE DRAINAGE IS ACTUALLY VERY GOOD FOR IT.
UM, AND SO I THINK YEAH, ONCE WE FIND OUT THOSE CALCULATIONS, I THINK THAT WILL, THAT WILL HELP OUT TREMENDOUSLY.
BUT I HOPE PLEASE, SO I CAN, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A STAB AT A MOTION.
UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD THING? NONE.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 AND ACCEPT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION'S, RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS, ACCEPT FOUR, UH, THE LANDSCAPING, UH, UM, AMENDMENT, AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO, UH, RESEARCH, TO FURTHER RESEARCH THE, UH, UH, CLAUSE RELATED TO, UH, ARTIFICIAL, NOT THE LANDSCAPING AMENDMENT.
THE ARTIFICIAL TURF AMENDMENT.
AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO RESEARCH ON THE ARTIFICIAL TURF, UH, CLAUSE.
AND BRING BACK, UM, UH, SOME, SOME, UH, SUGGESTIONS RELATED TO HOW WE CAN STRENGTHEN THAT TO ENSURE THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF IS INSTALLED IN A, UH, UH, PRODUCTIVE AND POSITIVE WAY.
SECOND, UH, ALL RIGHT, MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KS THERE.
DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I AM GOING TO OBJECT TO IT BEING FINALLY PASSED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT COME BACK FOR SECOND READING.
NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20.
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(Second Reading) An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas Amending the Code of Ordinances: Chapter 2 Administration, Amending Article III Boards, Committees and Commissions, Division 1 General, Division 4 Economic Development and Tourism Board, Division 5 Kyle Arts and Cultural Commission; and Adding Division 6 Library Board; Renumbering Article IV Officers and Employees; Article V Library Division 1 Generally, Repealing Division 2 Board of Directors, Renumbering Division 3 Fund; Renumbering Article IV Officers and Employees; and Providing for Repeal of Conflicting Ordinances, Severability, Open Meetings and Effective Date. ~ Amber Schmeits, Assistant City Manager
City Council voted 5-2 to approve on first reading on 6/6/2023.
]THANK YOU, SIR.UH, SECOND READING AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CAL, TEXAS AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
CHAPTER TWO, ADMINISTRATION ADMITTING ARTICLE THREE BOARD'S, COMMITTEES, AND COMMISSIONS, UH, UH, ET CETERA.
THIS IS THE ITEM THAT WE APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING REGARDING, UM, THE CLEANING UP THE POLICIES, UH, TO BE MORE COMPLIANT.
UH, THERE MAY BE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
UH, IS THAT A DISCUSSION WE WANT TO HAVE NOW, OR DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH SECOND READING HERE AND HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION AT A LATER DATE? CUSTOMER HEISER.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, UH, THIS WEEKEND, UM, UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF MR. LANGLEY HERE AT THE VISION WORKSHOP IN TERMS OF THE DIRECTION.
UM, AND THE PURPOSE AND THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR, UH, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22ND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORIS KELS, OUR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION.
NEXT STEP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20.
THIS ITEM WAS POSTPONED ON MAY 16TH.
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM DISTANCE FOR CHILD SAFETY ZONE ORDINANCE.
I'M GLAD THAT, UM, IT'S BACK AND IT HAS A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION AS BACKUP MATERIALS.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO OFFICER PETE FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
UM, THERE IS A MEMORANDUM ON THE BACKUP MATERIAL THAT BASICALLY EXPLAINS WHY WE SHOULD BE LOOKING INTO EXPANDING THAT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR SEX OFFENDERS.
NUMBER ONE, THIS WILL BE, UM, FOR SEX OFFENDERS THAT HAVE CRIME SUITE CHILDREN.
UM, AS WE KNOW, WE ARE SUCH A GROWING CITY, UM, PROBABLY THE FASTEST GROWING IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS TO OPEN THE BACKUP MATERIAL AND SEE THE NUMBER OF SEX OFFENDERS THAT WE HAVE HAD IN THE CITY OF KYLE SINCE 2020 AND HOW IT HAS DECREASED.
THEN YOU CAN GO DOWN AND SEE THAT CITIES THAT HAVE INCREASED POPULATION, LIKE, UM, CEDAR PARK, IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE.
THEY HAVE, UM, CEDAR PARK HAS ABOUT 90,000 RESIDENTS AND ONLY 28 SEX OFFENDERS.
HERE WE ARE WITH ABOUT HALF OF THAT POPULATION AND TWICE AS MANY.
SO GIVEN THOSE NUMBERS AND KNOWING THAT WE KEEP DEVELOPING AND PEOPLE KEEP MOVING TO KYLE, I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR CHILDREN AND WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THE PRO A PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT, THE MINIMUM DISTANCE TO 1500 TO 2000 FEET.
SO IF I MAKE A MOTION AND WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA GO CAUSE I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR SEX OFFENDERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN INCREASE ON THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR, UM, FOR THE CHILD SAFETY ZONE ORDINANCE FROM A THOUSAND TO 2000 FEET.
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SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, UH, THAT WE INCREASE THE, UM, UH, MINIMUM DISTANCE FOR THE CHILD SAFETY, UH, ZONE ORDINANCE FROM 1000 TO 2000 FEET.IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I DO WANNA HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.
I KNOW PAGE, WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WE HAD MAPS WHERE IT WOULD SHOW HOW IT WOULD LOOK WITH 1500 TO 2000.
WAS IT 2000 SOMETHING THAT WILL NO, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.
IT WAS NOT PUT US IN COMPLIANCE COUNCIL HEARING COUNCIL.
THE, UM, WHEN Y'ALL CONSIDERED THIS BEFORE, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL YEARS THAT YOU, AFTER, SINCE YOU'VE CONSIDERED THIS, YOU HAD MAPS THAT SHOWED YOU THE DIFFERENT DISTANCES AND THE EFFECT OF THAT, UM, ON KIND OF AREAS WHERE PEOPLE COULD RESIDE AND, UH, WHAT AREAS OF THE CITY THEY COVERED.
THE CITY HAS CHANGED SINCE THAT TIME.
AND SO RELYING ON THOSE PAST MAPS PROBABLY WOULDN'T GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE IDEA OF WHETHER THE DISTANCE IS GONNA ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL RELATED TO THIS EXPANSION.
SO THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION SHE ASKED.
SHE WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT, UM, INCREASING IT TO 2000 FEET WOULD CREATE A POTENTIAL CONSTITUTIONAL LIABILITY FOR THE CITY.
IT, IT'S, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T KNOW THAT WITHOUT REVIEWING WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE 2000 FOOT DOES TO THE CITY.
SO WE'D NEED TO REVISIT THOSE MAPS.
SO I KNOW THAT THE MAPS WERE GIVEN TO US ON THE LAST, AND I DON'T KNOW, LET ME REVIEW, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL FOR THIS TIME.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IS MORE RESTRICTIONS FOR SEX OFFENDERS TO MOVE TO KYLE.
SO IF 2000 WILL KEEP AWAY AS MANY, YOU KNOW, AS WE CAN, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO GO FOR THAT.
AS YOU READ ON THE MEMORANDUM, SOME WILL BE GRANDFATHERED IF THEY HAVE LIVED IN HERE ALREADY.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WILL BE MOVING IN AND THEY'RE BRAND NEW TO KYLE.
THEY CAN GO AND MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
THAT WILL BE MY GOAL, LIKE SHADOW CREEK CROSSWINDS.
WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THOSE FOLKS.
SO CAN I ASK COUNCIL MEMBER FLOOR? THANK YOU.
THE, UM, WHAT IS IS LEGALITY ISSUE BECAUSE SLO HAS 35,000 PEOPLE FOR THEIR POPULATION AND THEY HAVE THE 2000 FEET AND, AND THERE'S ANOTHER ONE.
WHAT IS THAT? WELL, PFLUGERVILLE IS 70,000 AND IT'S 2000 FEET.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE LEGAL PROBLEM THAT WE WOULD FACE IF WE INCREASED IT TO 2000? AND THEN THE BACKUP MATERIAL DOES HAVE THE MAP.
WHEN, WHEN THESE GET CHALLENGED, THE, THE CHALLENGE COMES IS, IS ADDRESSING THIS, THE COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY TO, UM, ENACT THESE TYPES OF REGULATIONS.
BUT ALSO, UH, THE ISSUE IS RELATED TO RIGHTS TO RESIDE, HAVE CERTAIN RIGHTS OF HAVING A RIGHT TO RESIDE IN CERTAIN AREAS TO MAKE CHOICES ABOUT WHERE YOU LIVE.
SO THOSE ARE THE CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGES THAT ARE BROUGHT AND WITH THE COURTS, HOW THE COURTS LOOK AT THOSE, UH, CHALLENGES IS WHAT IS THE GOAL THAT THE COUNCIL'S TRYING TO ACHIEVE? AND IS YOUR, UM, IS YOUR REGULATION TAILORED TO FIT THAT SPECIFIC GOAL? AND DOES IT GO BEYOND THAT? OKAY.
SO JUST SHOWING THAT OUR NUMBERS HAVE GONE DOWN SINCE WE'VE HAD THIS ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROBABLY, UH, BENEFIT THE CITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO THINK, UM, I GUESS IF WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP SEX OFFENDERS OUT AND THE NUMBERS KEPT RISING, THAT WOULD BE CONTRADICTORY TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT WHAT I'M THINKING IS THE MORE WE GROW, THE MORE WE'RE DEVELOPING, THE MORE WE ARE ANNEXING, YOU KNOW, THE MORE SEX OFFENDERS WE'RE OPENING DOORS TO, IF YOU SEE THE MAP THAT HAS A 2000, THERE'S STILL PLACES FOR THEM TO LEAVE.
AND AGAIN, I'M NOT HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THEM.
SO IF 2000 CAN BRING THE NUMBER DOWN, THE 49 THAT
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WE CURRENTLY HAVE WILL BE GRANDFATHERED.WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, FOR THOSE NUMBERS TO PROBABLY START GOING DOWN AS THEY MAY OR MAY NOT MOVE AWAY, AND THEN PREVENTING THAT NEW ONES COME OVER.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, UM, UNDER THIS PROPOSED CHANGE, WOULD, UM, YOU MENTIONED GRANDFATHERED IN PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE, UH, LET'S SAY THAT THEY WANTED TO MOVE WHAT HA UH, WITHIN THE, OR IF THEY NEEDED TO MOVE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WITHIN A GENERAL AREA, LIKE WITHIN THIS, THEY HAVE KIDS IN A CERTAIN SCHOOL DISTRICT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NOPE.
THERE'S, IF THE LANDLORD TOLD THEM THAT THEIR LEASE IS UP INSTEAD OF GETTING ANOTHER HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, THEY WOULD BE FORCED TO LEAVE.
THEY'D BE FORCED TO LEAVE THAT HOUSE EITHER WAY.
THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO FIND A PLACE IN KYLE, OUTSIDE OF KYLE.
SO, I MEAN, WELL THERE'S, I LOOKED AT THE MAP STILL AND THERE'S STILL AREAS, TRUST ME CUZ THEY'RE ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO EVEN WITH THE 2000 FOOT, YOU, YOU'RE STILL GONNA GET AVAILABILITY IN KYLE.
AND THE REASON WHY I REALLY SUPPORT THIS IS BECAUSE EVEN WITH 1500 FEET, QUILL RIDGE IS COMPLETELY AVAILABLE MM-HMM.
AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY IF SOMEBODY WAS GUILTY OR NOT.
IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ONLY DEAL WITH THE PROTECTION OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, INNOCENT THAT WERE FOUND TO BE GUILTY, BUT THAT'S NOT FOR THE CITY TO DECIDE.
THAT IS FOR THE COURTS TO DECIDE.
AND IT, AND LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE VICTIMS, UH, THERE WAS, THIS IS THE AGE AND GENDER, THE 45 VICTIMS, THE MAJORITY ARE 13, 14, 15 YEAR OLD.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT SUPER, THEY'RE NOT SUPER YOUNG AND THEY'RE NOT OLD.
THEY'RE NOT LIKE RIGHT AT 17 WHERE THERE'S THAT TEETERING AGE.
BUT THESE ARE MIDDLE AGED, YOU KNOW, GIRLS.
AND SO I FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO TRY TO DO MY BEST TO PROTECT THOSE KIDS.
AND THOSE ARE KIDS THAT ARE PROBABLY WALKING BACK AND FORTH FROM SCHOOL.
SO THEY'RE IN AN AGE THEY CAN DO THAT.
OH, I WANT TO DEBATE THIS SO BAD.
UH, THERE'S A MOTION, A SECOND MAYOR PRO TIP.
LET'S LOOK AT THE, THE, THE, THE REAL ISSUE HERE.
I, I HEAR A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SPECIFIC TYPES OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN OUR CITY, BUT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT.
AND YOU JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT I UNDERSTAND THE PROTECTION OF THE CITY, I UNDERSTAND THE PROTECTION OF THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AND SO FORTH.
IT IS NOT COUNSEL'S OBLIGATION TO A JUDGE, THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE FOUND OR WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF THESE CRIMES THAT WAS PLACED UPON THE JUDGE AND THE JURY AND THE COURTS.
UM, SO I THINK THE WHOLE THING HERE IS WE ARE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WANT TO INCREASE IT FROM A A THOUSAND TO 2000 TO WHERE PREMISES, WHERE CHILDREN COMMONLY GATHER SUCH AS PARKS AND SCHOOLS.
BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE DON'T WANT THESE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR CITY, PERIOD.
UM, I'M ALL ABOUT SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR OUR CITY.
I'M ALL FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS.
AND YOU'VE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
FEELINGS ASIDE, THE FACTS ARE, IS THESE PEOPLE DO HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS.
SO, UM, IF I DON'T, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WOULD YOU, WHAT I LIKE TO CALL UP, UH, OFFICER BATES TO JUST GET SOME CLARIFICATION FOR ON THE NUMBERS AND TO HEAR FROM HIM ON THIS ISSUE.
CAUSE IT IS VERY SENSITIVE AND IT IS VERY, UH, UH, SERIOUS.
AND SO I WANTED TO GET SOME OF YOUR FEEDBACK, SIR, ON THE NUMBERS ITSELF.
HOW'S IT COUNSEL DOGGO PAIDS, KYLE PD.
SO FROM THE NUMBER OF 2020, WE'VE HAD 75 INDIVIDUAL SEX OFFENDERS THAT LIVED IN OUR CITY, CORRECT? YES SIR.
NOW WE'VE DROPPED IT DOWN TO 49.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROBLEM THAT YOU KNOW OF WHEN IT COMES TO REGISTERING OR FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THE YEARLY, UH, REGISTRATION ON, ON THE, ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS? UH, SOME OF 'EM THEY FAILED TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE.
AND SO WITH THAT NUMBER THERE YOU HAVE, WE HAVE SEEN A DECREASE IN THESE INDIVIDUALS MOVING TO OUR CITY WITHIN THE
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PREMISES OF NEARBY SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH.THEN YOU SAID THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN, IN COMPLIANCE ON THAT END.
SO HOW DO, HOW DO YOU FEEL? I MEAN, I'M JUST, IT'S NOT, BUT AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO INCREASING FROM A THOUSAND TO 2000, UM, HAVE YOU SEEN IN, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE IN OTHER CITIES THAT YOU MIGHT KNOW OF, HAS HELPED DETOUR A LOT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS LIVING FROM THESE TYPES OF AREAS? ABSOLUTELY.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL IS CLEAR.
THIS DOESN'T AFFECT EVERY SEX OFFENDER AT ALL.
ANY SEX OFFENDER, IF THEIR VICTIM IS 17 AND OLDER MM-HMM.
THIS IS ONLY AFFECTING SEX OFFENDERS WHOSE VICTIMS WERE YOUNGER THAN 17.
UM, AND SO IN OTHER CITIES THAT, THAT HAVE THIS, THEY'VE HAD TREMENDOUS SUCCESS WITH DETERRING, YOU KNOW, OFFENDERS MOVING CLOSE.
ONCE THEY EVEN HEAR THE ORDINANCE THAT, OH, YOU HAVE ONE I'LL LOOK ELSEWHERE MM-HMM.
HAVING A CITY THAT HAS A 60,000 POPULATION WITH A THIRD OF THE SEX OFFENDERS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, IT'S GOLD STANDARD.
SO IF PFLUGERVILLE IS DOING IT, IF CEDAR PARK IS DOING IT, THEN KYLE SHOULD BE DOING THIS.
WE ARE GROWING SO FAST, WHY DO WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE, TO BRING SEX OFFENDERS TO, TO, TO OUR CITY THAT WE LOVE TO, I MEAN, I'M NOT, HE, AND THEN WHAT HE'S SAYING, WHAT, WHAT OFFICER PETES IS SAYING IS THIS IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT EVERY SEX OFFENDER, WHICH I WISH IT COULD.
UH, IT'S, IT'S TARGETING PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE CRIMINAL THINGS TO CHILDREN.
SO, UM, I DON'T EVEN SEE WHY THIS SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, WE ALL SHOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR KIDS.
AND WE ARE, WE'RE JUST GETTING THE FACTS OUT THERE, MS. PARSLEY, WE'RE JUST GETTING THE FACTS OUT THERE.
AND, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT WITH YOU.
YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT I'M NOT IN A DISAGREEMENT WITH YOU.
UH, I'M JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET OUR FACTS STRAIGHT ON THE NUMBERS AND SO FORTH.
AND IF, WHICH SEEMS LIKE WE ARE SPECIFICALLY TARGETING IN JUST A A AS AS THAT END, WE JUST HAVE TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT OUR STANCE IS.
ARE WE GROWING? OF COURSE WE ARE.
DO WE WANNA PROTECT OUR CHILDREN? OF COURSE WE DO.
I WANT TO PROTECT EVERYBODY BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT CHILDREN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR NUMBERS AND WE NEEDED TO HEAR FROM KYLE POLICE THE NUMBERS.
THAT IS WHY RESPECTFULLY, I HAD 'EM COME UP HERE TO, TO LET US KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS.
OFFICER PS UH, YES, JUST TO GET MORE ON THE DATA ANALYSIS, CUZ WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, WE'RE DRAWING A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE TIME THAT WE IMPLEMENTED THE ZONE, THE SAFE ZONE, AND THEN THIS DECREASE IN SEX OFFENDERS THAT WE KNOW OF.
UH, COULD THERE BE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THESE SEX OFFENDERS, MAYBE THEY SELF MOVED NOT BECAUSE OF THIS, UH, ZONE, BUT MAYBE THEY RELOCATED ON THEIR OWN, THEY HAD A DIFFERENT JOB OR WHATEVER.
SO I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT SKEPTICAL ON, CUZ WE DON'T HAVE A CONTROL STUDY WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT DOES A SMALLER BOUNDARY, UM, SHOW THE OPPOSITE TREND? UM, SO QUESTION, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF NO, IF WE DO, CUZ I'M ALL FOR IT, LET'S KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
BUT IS HOW DO WE KNOW THE BOUNDARY? SO NONE OF THESE EFFECTIVE AND, AND, AND THAT IT'S REALLY EFFECTIVE IN THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE LARGER THE BOUNDARY THAT THE RESI THAT THE SEX OFFENDERS ARE GONE.
UH, I'M GONNA TRY TO ANSWER THAT, THAT, THAT WAS A LONG QUESTION.
UM, SO WITH WITH THE ORDINANCE, NONE OF THESE NUMBERS FROM DECREASING HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY SAYING, OH, HEY, YOU LIVE HERE NOW AND YOU HAVE TO MOVE OUT.
AT NO POINT IN TIME HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED.
UH, WITH THESE NUMBERS DECREASING THESE, UH, OFFENDERS THAT HAVE MOVED AWAY MM-HMM.
IT WASN'T THE CITY OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAYING, OKAY, YOU HAVE TO MOVE.
HAS THAT EVER HAPPENED? UH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.
UM, WAS THE SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION? WELL, THE THING THE OTHER ONE IS YOU SAID SOME OF THEM ARE IN VIOLATION.
I GUESS THEY, THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE, THE, THE SAFE ZONE.
THEY'RE NOT IN VIOLATION DIRECTLY WITH IT.
THEY'VE, THEY'RE, THEY'D BE IN VIOLATION FOR, UM, FAILING TO REGISTER A AGAIN, DUE THEIR ANNUAL, UM, REGISTRATION, NOT NECESSARILY IN BECAUSE OF THIS
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DIRECTLY.THAT'S WITH, UH, THE REGISTRATION FOR THE STATE.
AND NOT TO GET INTO LEGAL ISSUES, BUT IS THERE A LOT OF ITY WHERE THEY REPEAT AGAIN THE CRIME? UM, ON A MINOR NOTE, I MEAN, I, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT ONE.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE IS, UH, OKAY.
SO I'M JUST GONNA DO A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR ON MY STANCE ON THIS.
SO FIRST IS THAT I SUPPORTED THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FOR 1000 FEET.
THERE WAS DEBATE ABOUT 1000 VERSUS 2000.
THE REASON THAT 2000 WAS NOT SELECTED AT THAT TIME, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE MAP THAT WAS JUST SHOWN, WHICH VIRTUALLY ELIMINATES SEX OFFENDERS FROM COMING TO COBB, WHICH HAS BEEN STATED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR MULTIPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS THE GOAL, THE WORD HAS BEEN TARGET TO ELIMINATE THEM FROM THE CITY OF COBB BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT A THREAT TO OUR CHILDREN.
THE QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SUBDIVISIONS JUST OUTSIDE OF, UH, OF THE CITY OF KYLE WHEN WE ELIMINATE THE ABILITY OF REGISTERED LAWFUL SEX OFFENDERS WHO'VE BEEN CONVICTED, GONE THROUGH A PROCESS, AND ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHTS TO LIVE AMONG THE PUBLIC? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SUBDIVISIONS JUST OUTSIDE OF KYLE? DO YOU THINK THAT THE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS PER CAPITA IN THOSE SUBDIVISIONS GOES UP OR DOWN BASED ON COUNSEL ACTION? IF WE ELIMINATE SEX OFFENDERS FROM BEING ABLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY, WHAT WOULD YOU THINK? UP OR DOWN? SOMEONE HAS A JOB, THEY GOTTA LIVE SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THEY PROBABLY GOES, IT COULD GO UP OR IT COULD GO UP.
RIGHT? OR THEY COULD FIND DIFFERENT AREAS IN THIS, UH, REGION.
IN, IN UNINCORPORATED HAYES COUNTY, LET'S SAY SOMEONE'S GONNA LIVE IN THE COUNTY, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF KYLE, THE REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS PER CAPITA GOES UP, NOT DOWN.
THEREFORE, IF THE LOGIC IS THAT BY SAYING THAT REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS REPRESENT A THREAT AND ARE A DANGER TO THE PEOPLE THEY LIVE AROUND, ARE WE, BY TAKING THIS VOTE, BY SAYING THEY CANNOT LIVE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE, VIRTUALLY, THEY MUST LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED HAYES COUNTY IS OUR VOTE, HAVING A CONSEQUENCE OF MAKING THIS NEIGHBORHOODS AND LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF KYLE, MORE DANGEROUS BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS MUST NOW MOVE.
THEY MUST MOVE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY AND GO LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED HAYES COUNTY.
THEIR REPRESENTATIVES WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM.
THIS IS OUR JOB AS REPRESENTING THE CITY OF KYLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CHILDREN.
SO WHOEVER REPRESENTS THE COUNTY OR THE ADJACENT AREAS SHOULD BE DOING REVISIONS ON THEIR ORDINANCE.
I, I'M NOT HERE, WE ARE NOT HERE TO CARE FOR WHAT HAPPENS ON THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS OUTSIDE OUR CITY.
AND THEY ARE NOT, IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE ELIMINATING THEM FROM LIVING IN THE CITY OF CAL.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THAT POCKET IS WHERE YOU LIVED? AND THAT IS NOW THE ONLY PLACE IN THE CITY OF KYLE THAT A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER, IF I MESS WE ARE WE MAKING THAT POCKET LESS SAFE OR MORE SAFE? IF I MESSED UP AND THAT'S WHERE I HAVE TO LEAVE, THAT'S WHERE I HAVE TO LEAVE.
OUR RESIDENCE THOUGH, HE'S NOT MAKING THE POINT FROM THE, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A SEX OFFENDER.
HE'S ASKING HOW ARE THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY IN KYLE WHO'S LIVING RIGHT ACROSS FROM ONE OF THOSE AREAS IN UN UNINCORPORATED AREAS, HOW ARE THE PEOPLE ARE KYLE RESIDENCE GONNA FEEL IF, IF ACROSS THE STREET IS A CLUSTER OF, OF SEX OFFENDERS, REMEMBER IS THE CLOSEST AREA THEY COULD LIVE.
WHAT WE ARE INCREASING IS THE RADIO FROM THE DISTANCE FROM PARKS OR SCHOOLS.
IN MY MIND, THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
FOR, YOU'RE TAKING THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, A NUMBER OF UNITS, DWELLING UNITS IN THE CITY OF KYLE THAT ARE WHERE A REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER COULD POSSIBLY LIVE.
AND YOU ARE REDUCING IT BY ABOUT 95%.
THAT WILL GIVE US PEACE OF MIND THAT A 14 YEAR OLD CAN WALK TO BACK AND FORTH FROM SCHOOL WITHOUT HAVING A SEX OFFENDER BE AS CLOSE AS HE COULD POSSIBLY BE.
DOES THIS IMPACT E TJ? SORRY, BERT KYLE.
UH, QUESTION OFFICER BATES A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS HERE.
UH, AND WELL ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA START OFF WITH A STATEMENT AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG.
BASED ON THE NUMBERS, IT LOOKS LIKE AS OUR POPULATION HAS INCREASED, THE NUMBER OF SEX OFFENDERS IS DECREASED.
WHICH IS THE POINT OF MAKING THE ORDINANCE A THOUSAND FEET.
I'M, I'M GUESSING OF THE, OF LET'S SAY LET'S 22 AND 2359 REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS LIVED IN KYLE IN 22 AND 49 AND 23.
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ANY IDEA OF HOW MANY OF THOSE OFFENDERS COMMITTED CRIMES LIKE RECENTLY TO, DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE? I MEAN, COULD, COULD THIS BE 49 PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED A CRIME 15 YEARS AGO? ARE YOU ASKING LIKE OUT OF THE 49, HOW MANY REASONS? WELL, I KNOW I'M NOT EXPECTING TO, I JUST WAS WONDERING LIKE, I'M TRYING TO LOOK.IT'S, THIS IS LIKE THE, ONE OF THE FEW ISSUES IN LIFE WHERE THERE, THERE IS HAVING A NUANCED CONVERSATION IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE CUZ IT'S EITHER YOU'RE PRO SEX OFFENDER OR AGAINST IT.
WHAT I AM AGAINST IN THIS SITUATION IS I LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND I SEE A PROBLEM DECREASING IS OUR POPULATION IS INCREASING, WHICH IS THE DESIRED RESULT OF ISSUING AN ORDINANCE TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS AGO, UH, TO CHANGE THE, THE DISTANCE.
BUT WE'RE, IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE IF, IF THESE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT, WE'RE JUST USING GOVER, THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT TO FURTHER TO, TO, TO SOLVE FOR A PROBLEM THAT WE'VE ALREADY, SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE ALREADY SOLVED.
WELL I, I KNOW SOME OF THE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE, UH, GOTTEN BIGGER AND WITH THAT, WITH THAT BIGGER EXPANSION OF SUDDEN CERTAIN SUBDIVISIONS, THERE HASN'T BEEN ADDITIONAL PARKS OR, OR AREAS FOR KIDS TO COMMONLY GATHER MM-HMM.
BUT KIDS ARE DEFINITELY WALKING FURTHER NOW, UH, IN THESE SUBDIVISIONS TO GET TO THEIR HOMES WHERE THERE WASN'T HOMES BEFORE AND NOW, YOU KNOW, MORE, OR AT LEAST ONE, UH, SEX OFFENDER HAS MOVED INTO ONE OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH IS FINE CUZ HE'S OUTSIDE OF THE RANGE, YOU KNOW, NO ISSUES.
BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE A LOT MORE FOOT TRAFFIC FROM CHILDREN GOING FURTHER PAST.
DO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS WOULD AFFECT? AS OF RIGHT NOW? YEAH.
OH, I, IT WON'T AFFECT ANYBODY THAT'S ALREADY HERE.
SO IT WOULD ONLY AFFECT PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANNA TO KYLE IS TO AFFECT PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY IT.
THAT'S THE EXCUSE THAT GETS USED IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE THE ABILITY OF SEX OFFENDERS.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION STILL.
WHAT'S THAT? YEAH, WE'LL ALWAYS BRING IT BACK.
Y'ALL WANNA TALK ABOUT IT AT THE NEXT TIME? YES, SIR.
WE'LL, WE'LL BRING IT BACK AT ANOTHER TIME.