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EVERYONE.THE TIME IS 7:10 PM IT IS TUESDAY, DECEMBER THE 19TH, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC STANDARD ONE.
ONE NATION UNDER ARRIVED IN
WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MITCHELL.
ALRIGHT, ALL, ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
[II. Approval of Minutes]
MINUTES.MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 5TH SPECIAL MEETING AND THE REGULAR MEETING FOR DECEMBER 5TH, 2023.
ALRIGHT, MOTION BY MAYOR PROTI, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MAYOR PARSLEY, THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 5TH.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT UP IS CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.
AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO, PLEASE DO SO.
WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE WHO IS REGISTERED TO SPEAK AHEAD OF TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD NOW? ALRIGHT.
CITIZEN COMMENTS, CITIZEN COMMENTS IS NOW CLOSED.
[3. Agenda Order per Rules of Council Sec. B1. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
UP IS AGENDA ORDER.UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO REQUEST TO MOVE ANY OF THESE ITEMS AROUND? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
[4. A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas making appointments of individual council members to serve as representatives on the boards and commissions interview panels. ~ Amber Schmeits, Assistant City Manager]
FOUR, APPOINTMENTS OR RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, MAKING APPOINTMENTS OF INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SERVE AS REPRESENTATIVES ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AMBER SCHMITZ, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
UH, SO BEFORE YOU, TONIGHT IS THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENTS TO THE INTERVIEW PANELS ON JANUARY, 2023.
UM, THE COUNCIL ADOPTED A POLICY REQUIRING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE APPOINTED TO THE INTERVIEW PANELS FOR THE CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES EACH YEAR AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS, UM, THE COUNCIL ALSO APPOINTED MEMBERS TO THE INTERVIEW PANELS FOR SIX OF THE CITY'S BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS THAT EVENING.
THESE SIX WERE CHOSEN AS THEY ARE THE MOST ACTIVE AND WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE INTERVIEW PANELS AT SOME POINT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, CURRENT APPOINTMENTS LOOKS LIKE AS FOLLOWS, ARTS AND CULTURAL BOARD WAS FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER FLORES KALE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TOURISM BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER LIBRARY BOARD MAYOR PRO, TIM TOBIAS, PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
MAYOR MITCHELL, TRAIN DEPOT, BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.
HERE'S A LIST OF ALL OF THE BOARD'S, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE.
SO, OPTIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO APPOINT INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE INTERVIEW PANELS FOR EACH OF THE 15 BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.
APPOINT INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE INTERVIEW PANELS FOR A PORTION OF THE BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS AS DETERMINED NECESSARY BY THE COUNCIL, OR DO NOT MAKE ANY APPOINTMENTS.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPOINTING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THE FOLLOWING BOARDS, ARTS AND CULTURAL BOARD, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TOURISM BOARD, KYLE AREA, YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL, LIBRARY BOARD, PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, TRAIN DEPOT BOARD, AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
UM, FOR THESE FOLLOWING REASONS, THEY'RE THE MOST ACTIVE.
UH, THEY WILL LIKELY REQUIRE INTERVIEW PANELS AT SOME POINT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.
UH, THE COMMITTEES WERE NOT RECOMMENDING THOSE FOR INTERVIEW PANELS BECAUSE THEY ONLY EXIST FOR ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF CREATION.
AND SOME BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE SELECTED AND APPOINTED AND MAY NOT REQUIRE AN INTERVIEW PANEL.
QUESTIONS, CAN YOU GO TO BACK YES.
TO, TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION? YOU SAID ARTS ECON DEVELOPMENT, KAYAK, UH, PARD, LIBRARY PLANNING AND ZONING, TRAIN DEPOT AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
SO THE TWO NEW ONES WOULD BE THE KAYAK AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
NOW CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ONE, A COUPLE BEFORE? YES, SIR.
SO WE HAVE, UM, COUNCILOR FLORES KELL'S NO LONGER ON, ON THE BOARD FOR ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION.
UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE REMAINDER, UH, ARE WE HAPPY WITH WHERE WE'RE AT? DOES ANYBODY HAVE A DESIRE TO SWITCH AROUND OR MOVE COMMENTARY? I'D LIKE TO STAY ON THE LIBRARY BOARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN WHERE I AM TOO.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT TOBIA STILL, UH, ON THE LIBRARY.
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PARSLEY'S ON PARKS.I, I'D LIKE TO STAY ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT I AM WILLING TO, UH, STEP ASIDE IF SOMEONE ELSE WOULD LIKE, UH, LIKE TO DO IT THIS YEAR.
I DON'T SEE KAYAK HERE, BUT I KNOW YOU SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY.
WE JUST NEVER OFFICIALLY CREATED THAT.
I THINK LIAISON KAYAK BECAME MORE ACTIVE AS WE WENT THROUGH THE YEAR LAST YEAR.
AND SO NOW WE, UH, ARE FORESEEING THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW PANEL AND MIGHT NEED A COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINTED TO THAT.
YEAH, I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO DO THAT, BUT AGAIN, IF, UH, ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO TAKE A WHACK AT IT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE THOUGHTS? SO, I'M ON THE TRAIN DEPOT BOARD, BUT, BUT IT'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY THERE, BUT, UM, THERE ARE MANY FUNCTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THERE.
UM, THE ONE THAT I'M MOST BUSY WITH IS NOT ON HERE.
THAT'S THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD.
THAT ONE I'M VERY TIME CONSUMED WITH.
UM, MEETS ALMOST THREE TIMES, FOUR TIMES A YEAR, PLUS EXTRA MEETINGS AND A LOT TO FOLLOW UP WITH.
SO IF ANYBODY UP HERE, UM, LAURA LEE, I KNOW YOU JUST JOINED.
IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO ONTO THE TRAIN DEPOT BOARD, I MEAN, I'LL IF, IF YOU SEE, IF YOU HAVE A DESIRE FOR THAT OF IT'S A HISTORICAL TYPE OF COMMISSION.
AND I, I'LL STAY ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY BOARD UNTIL I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE ARTS ARTS BOARD OPEN.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A DESIRE TO SERVE ON THE ARTS BOARD INTERVIEW PANEL? I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO WANTS TO, UM, SERVE IN ANY OF THEM.
I'M LOOKING THROUGH 'EM RIGHT NOW.
SO, SO IT'S ARTS, UM, KAYAK, TRAIN DEPOT, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
WE DON'T APPOINT TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT, RIGHT.
THAT'S NOT FOR US TO, IT'S NOT OUR BOARD.
I'LL TAKE THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION IF NOBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED.
AND WHAT ABOUT KAYAK? ARE WE OKAY WITH COUNCILOR HEISER? CONTINUING WITH KAYAK.
AND THEN DOES ANYBODY HAVE A DESIRE TO DO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS? CAN WE HAVE TWO POSITIONS TO YEAH, YOU CAN IF YOU WANT.
IF YOU WANNA DO IT, THAT'S FINE.
SELECT THAT ONE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AS WELL.
I'LL TAKE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND STAY ON LIBRARY.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT AS FOLLOWS, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO INTER TO SERVE AS INTERVIEW, UH, LIAISONS TO THE INTERVIEW PANEL.
UH, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ARTS BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, COUNCILLOR HEISER, UH, FOR THE COLLAR AREA YOUTH ADVISORY COMMISSION.
COUNCILLOR HEISER FOR THE PARKS AND PARKS AND REC.
SO I'VE GOT, WE'RE GONNA, BEFORE THE MOTION I'VE GOT FOR ARTS BOARD, RIZZO, ECON DEV HEISER, KAYAK, HEISER PARKS, UH, PARKS AND REC, UH, PARSLEY AND LIBRARY.
TOBIAS, PNZ, MITCHELL, TRAIN DEPOT, HARRIS, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN A A A MOTION, UH, TO APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SERVE AS LIAISONS TO THE INTERVIEW PANELS FOR THE FOLLOWING BOARDS, UH, ARTS COMMISSION, COUNCILOR RIZZO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COUNCILOR HEISER KAYAK, UH, COUNCILLOR HEISER, UH, PARKS AND REC, COUNCILLOR PARSLEY LIBRARY, COUNCILLOR TOBIAS, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING.
UH, MAYOR MITCHELL, TRAIN DEPOT CO.
UH, COUNCILLOR HARRIS AND BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS, IS THERE DIS UH, SECOND.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[5. A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas to appoint an elected official to the Central Texas Clean Air Coalition (CAC) for the 2024-2025 term. ~ Kathy Roecker, Stormwater Management Plan Administrator]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS TO APPOINT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO THE CENTRAL TEXAS CLEAN AIR COALITION FOR THE 2024.COUNCIL MEMBER KATHY STORMWATER PROGRAM FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE CLEAN AIR COALITION'S PURPOSE IS TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT, ADOPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION TO MAINTAIN THE FEDERAL EIGHT HOUR OZONE STANDARD FOR THE AREA.
UM, THE COALITION ALSO ESTABLISHES AND MONITORS, UM, EFFORTS TOWARD IMPROVING AIR QUALITY FOR THE AREA.
THEY DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO IMPLEMENT.
THEY DO WORK WITH ALL OF THE, UM, COALITION MEMBERS
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OFFERING CITIES OPTIONS, UM, THAT ARE UP TO THE CITIES IF THEY WANT TO IMPLEMENT THEM.AND THEN THEY PROVIDE THE CAP COGS EX EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ADMINISTERING FUNDING.
SO IT'S A VERY, UM, IMPORTANT COALITION, UM, FOR THE CITY TO BE A PART OF, BECAUSE WE CAN'T GET FEDERAL, FEDERAL DOLLARS.
THE CLEAN AIR COALITIONS, UM, APPOINTMENT IS A TWO YEAR TERM.
IT STARTS, UH, THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY OF EVEN NUMBERED YEARS AND RUNS UNTIL DECEMBER OF ODD NUMBER YEARS.
UH, SO 2024, UH, WILL BE A NEW APPOINTMENT.
AND THE CLEAN AIR COALITION IS REQUESTING THAT THE CITY OF KYLE CITY COUNCIL, EITHER REAPPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, OR APPOINT, UH, A NEW ELECTED OFFICIAL TO SERVE ON THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.
THE CLEAN AIR APPOINTMENT, UM, MUST BE DONE BY RESOLUTION.
AND WE NEED ONE ELECTED, ELECTED OFFICIAL.
THERE'S JUDGES, MAYORS, UM, IT'S, IT'S IT'S HIGHER LEVEL, UM, STAFF THAT, THAT ARE APPOINTED TO THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.
UM, ONE THING THAT THE CITY CAN ELECT TO APPOINT, UM, A PROXY, THE WHOEVER IS THE GENERAL MEMBER, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PROXY.
IT COULD BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
THE BENEFIT OF HAVING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AS THE THE GENERAL MEMBER'S PROXY IS THAT DURING THOSE MEETINGS, THE CITY OF KYLE WILL HAVE A VOTE AT THE TABLE.
I HAD BEEN A PROXY FOR OUR GENERAL MEMBER.
UM, BUT WHEN I DO ATTEND THE MEETINGS, THEN I DON'T GET TO VOTE.
UM, BUT IT DOESN'T, YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A MINUTE, IT, IT COUNTS TOWARD ATTENDANCE.
THEY ACTUALLY DO TAKE ATTENDANCE, AND IT IS A BIG DEAL.
SO THIS, I KIND OF, I PUT MORE HERE IN A MINUTE.
AND THE MEETINGS ARE QUARTERLY AND THEY ARE IN SOUTH AUSTIN, AND THEY ARE IN PERSON.
THE BYLAWS, BYLAWS, UH, REPRESENTATIVES ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND ALL MEETINGS.
ALL MEETING RECORDS ARE, UM, RECORDED AND MAINTAINED.
UM, THERE'S RULES IF, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS MISS, UM, AND THEN THE REPRESENTATIVE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, LIKE I JUST SAID, CAN DESIGNATE A PROXY, UM, THAT CAN ATTEND IN THE GENERAL MEMBER'S PLACE.
BUT AGAIN, IF THAT PROXY IS NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, THEY CAN'T VOTE.
BUT IT DOES NOT COUNT TOWARD NOT BEING THERE, NOT BEING IN ATTENDANCE.
UM, AND IF THE GENERAL MEMBER CANNOT ATTEND THE MEETINGS, THEY NEED TO BE MO NOTIFIED THAT THE PROXY WILL BE SENT IN THEIR PLACE.
SO THE OPTIONS ARE REELECT COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER TO REPRESENT THE CITY, UH, OF KYLE ON THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.
APPOINT A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER TO REPRESENT KYLE ON THE CAC.
UM, WE CAN SELECT AGAIN, A PROXY FOR THE GENERAL MEMBER.
AND AGAIN, IF THAT IS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
AND AGAIN, THE, THE PROXY WILL ONLY SHOW UP WHEN THE GENERAL MEMBER CANNOT ATTEND THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS IN PERSON.
THE, THE BENEFIT OF SENDING A PROXY THAT IS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OFFICIAL IS THEY'LL GET TO VOTE.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO ASSIGN A BACKUP.
'CAUSE I SIT ON THE CLEAN AIR COALITION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR A PROXY FOR ME AS WELL.
BUT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT INTERNALLY WITH CITY STAFF.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? COUNCILLOR HEER? UH, YEAH.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO STEP ASIDE FROM THIS, UH, THIS BOARD AND, UH, DISCUSS COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO AS THE ONE WHO WOULD TAKE MY SPOT, BECAUSE HE IS, UH, HE IS WHOSE SPOT I TOOK LAST YEAR.
SO PUTTING HIM BACK ONTO THIS BOARD, UH, FOR WHICH HE HAS FAMILIARITY, I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
SO IF HE'S OPEN TO IT, I'D, UH, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POINT ROBERT RIZZO AS THE GENERAL MEMBER OF THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.
COUNCILMAN RIZZO, DO YOU HAVE, UH, THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH, DEFINITELY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ENJOYED, UH, BEING A PART OF WAS, UH, SERVING ON THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.
UH, AS A SEC, AS A SECOND VICE CHAIR, I, I DEFINITELY TOOK THE JOB VERY SERIOUSLY AND I, I ENJOYED IT.
BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ANYONE ELSE A, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, THINK ABOUT TAKING THIS POSITION.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER REGA, YOU'RE KIND OF NEW TO THE DIOCESE.
IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL YOU'D LIKE TO DO? I, IF NOT, I, I DEFINITELY WILL ACCEPT THE POSITION.
UH, I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH THE, UH, ATTENDANCE RECORD OF IT.
I WORK IN NORTH AUSTIN, SO FOR ME TO GET TO THESE MEETINGS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE DAYTIME.
UM, I, I'M INTERESTED IN BEING YOUR, YOUR, THE PROXY ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT CAN, THAT CAN VOTE, BUT NOT BE THE, THE MAIN PERSON.
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MINUTE, BUT, UM, DEFINITELY, I, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF, IF YOU, IF YOU, YOU WANT THAT POSITION.LET'S, LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTARY FIRST.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL NO, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S FINE.
IF, IF, UH, COUNCILMAN RIZZO IS WILLING TO, UH, STEP BACK INTO THAT ROLE AGAIN, I WOULD SUPPORT IT AS WELL.
BUT YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
WELL, HE SAID HE'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T RECEIVE IT AS A MOTION.
SO THAT IS A TECHNICALITY THERE, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE, UH, COUNCILMAN RIZZO A CHANCE TO RESPOND.
SO, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, GO AHEAD.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO TO THE CLEAN AIR COALITION AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA TO BE COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO'S PROXY ON THE CLEAN AIR COALITION.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THAT WE APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO TO THE CLEAN AIR COALITION, AND THAT AS THE GENERAL MEMBER, AND THAT WE APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA TO THE CLEAN AIR COALITION AS COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO'S PROXY.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[6. A Resolution approving the appointment of Jenna Krenek to Seat 5 of the Economic Development & Tourism Board. ~ Victoria Vargas, Director of Economic Development]
IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, A RESOLUTION APPROVING, UH, THE APPOINTMENT OF JENNA RENICK TO SEAT FIVE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
FOR THE RECORD, UM, I'M HERE TO, UH, PRESENT THIS ITEM FOR APPROVAL AND CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF JENNA RENICK.
SHE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, FILL SEAT FIVE.
SHE IS, UH, QUALIFIED FOR THE SEAT.
THE INTERVIEW PANEL UNANIMOUSLY, UM, AGREES THAT, UH, THIS RECOMMENDATION SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
UH, JENNA HAS A BEEN A RESIDENT OF KYLE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
SHE'S A CURRENT TEXAS STATE STUDENT STUDYING DIGITAL MEDIA INNOVATION AND BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, AND SHE'S THE GENERAL MANAGER AT SUMMER MOON.
SO SHE'S EAGER AND EXCITED TO JOIN THE BOARD IF YOU SHOULD ACCEPT HER, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE HER.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTARY, THOUGHTS, MOTIONS? YEAH.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I THINK I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS NOMINATION.
I THINK SHE BRINGS A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE TO THIS NEWLY FORMED BOARD THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHEN WE FACTOR IN THE, THE DIRECTION IN WHICH OUR CITY IS HEADING.
SO, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE JENNA RENICK TO THE VACANT SEAT ON THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD.
SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR ZUNIGA THAT WE APPOINT JENNA CRITIC TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[7. A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas to make an appointment to the Alliance Regional Water Authority Board of Directors to replace Derrick Turley for an unexpired term expiring April 2024. ~ Amber Schmeits, Assistant City Manager]
IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO REPLACE DEREK TURLEY, UH, FOR AN UNEXPIRED TERM EXPIRING APRIL, 2024.HERE AGAIN, UH, THIS ITEM IS COMING BACK TO YOU AS IT WAS TABLED OR POSTPONED TO THIS DATE, CERTAIN TONIGHT.
UM, OUR REQUEST IS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AN APPOINTMENT TO THE ARAWA BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
IT'S, UH, STANDS FOR ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY.
UM, THEY'RE A REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY THAT WAS FORMED FOR THE PURPOSE OF RESOLVING THE LONG-TERM WATER NEEDS OF ITS SPONSORS.
IT WAS, OR ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 2007 AS THE HAYES CALDWELL PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY AND LATER, UH, WAS CONVERTED TO ALLIANCE WATER IN THE 2017 LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
UH, PROVIDES WATER ON A WHOLESALE BASIS FOR ITS SPONSORS.
AND HERE ARE THE SPONSORING ENTITIES LISTED OUT FOR YOU.
UM, OUR WAS GOVERNED BY A 13 MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPOINTED BY THE SPONSORS.
UH, THE CITY OF KYLE HOLDS THREE SEATS ON THE BOARD.
UM, MYSELF AND TIM SANFORD, WASTEWATER TREATMENT DIVISION MANAGER ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
UM, THE CITY OF KYLE'S ONE ANCY WITH A TERM EXPIRING AT THE END OF APRIL, 2024.
GUIDELINES FOR APPOINTMENTS, UH, YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE AND A RESIDENT OF THE TERRITORY LOCATED IN THE AUTHORITY, OR AN EMPLOYEE OF THE SPONSOR.
UM, AGAIN, THE 13 MEMBER BOARD.
UH, THE MEETINGS, UH, ARE THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 3:00 PM I BELIEVE THERE'S A QUESTION AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT, UH, IF ELECTED OFFICIALS SERVED ON THE BOARD.
AND THERE ARE TWO ELECTED OFFICIALS CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCUS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, LOCATIONS VARY, UM, BUT MANY OF THE MEETINGS MAY BE ATTENDED VIA ZOOM.
UM, OPTIONS, YOU CAN APPOINT THE MAYOR OR A COUNCIL MEMBER, APPOINT A CITY OF KYLE EMPLOYEE, APPOINT A CITY OF KYLE RESIDENT.
UH, RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPOINTING THE MAYOR, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A CITY EMPLOYEE OF THE COUNCIL'S CHOOSING.
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RIGHT.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THINK MR. LANGLEY HAD HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH ME ABOUT THINKING THAT IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL FOR HIM TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD.
UM, DO YOU WANNA PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? YES, SIR.
I, I THINK, UH, JUST WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS A CRITICAL PART OF THE CITY'S FUTURE.
AND IF THE COUNCIL IS, IS WILLING, I, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON, UH, SERVE ON THE BOARD.
I THINK I CAN PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE TO OUR STAFF AND TO THE TEAM AND THE OTHER CITIES TO TRY TO GET THE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD AND GET 'EM TO THE CITY OF CAL QUICKLY.
ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS? THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT THE CITY MANAGER TO SERVE THE THIRD, UH, UNEXPIRED TERM, UH, ON THE ARBA BOARD.
SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR HEISER.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? UH, MAYOR PROTO.
SO THE, IT EXPIRES, UH, NEXT, NEXT YEAR IN APRIL? OR WE JUST BRING IT BACK THEN, MA'AM.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALL MOTION CARRIES.
[8. Presentation and award of a certificate of appreciation from the Kyle Police Department to Hector Villarreal for his actions following the issuance of a local amber alert leading to the swift recovery of two children. ~ Jeff Barnett, Chief of Police]
UNDER REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PRESENTATION AND AWARD OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FROM THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HECTOR V REAL FOR HIS ACTIONS, FOLLOWING THE ISSUANCE OF A LOCAL AMB ALERT LEADING TO THE SWIFT RECOVERY OF TWO CHILDREN.
THANK YOU AMERICAN COUNSEL, JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE.
FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US A FEW MOMENTS TONIGHT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE HEROIC ACTIONS AND SWIFT RESPONSE OF ONE OF OUR LOCAL KYLE CITIZENS THAT HELPED US RECENTLY, UH, BACK ON NOVEMBER THE 21ST, THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT BEGAN A SEARCH FOR TWO YOUNG GIRLS, SIX YEARS OF AGE THAT WERE BELIEVED TO BE MISSING AND TO BE POTENTIALLY ENDANGERED INVESTIGATORS THROUGHOUT THE AFTERNOON LOOKED FOR THESE TWO YOUNG GIRLS, UH, WITH INFORMATION THAT THEY HAD.
AND AS DARKNESS SETTLED, UH, WE KINDA LOST ANY LEADS THAT WE HAD, AND WE NEEDED TO REACH OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES FOR SOME ASSISTANCE.
UH, WE ULTIMATELY MET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO REQUEST DPS TO ISSUE AN AMBER ALERT AND AN AMBER ALERT WAS SENT OUT ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO RECOGNIZE THE ACTIONS OF MR. HECTOR VI REAL, A LOCAL CITIZEN WHO WAS DRIVING HOME THAT EVENING FROM BEING OUT OF TOWN AND GOT HIS AMBER ALERT ON HIS TELEPHONE.
HE WAS ABLE TO GET THE CONTENTS OF THAT AMBER ALERT AND WITHIN MINUTES, WITHIN MINUTES, SAW A VEHICLE PARKED AT A CONVENIENCE STORE OFF TO THE SIDE, UH, NOT AT THE FRONT DOOR, OFF TO THE SIDE IN THE SHADOWS THAT HE THOUGHT LOOKED GENERALLY SIMILAR TO THE VEHICLE THAT HAD BEEN DESCRIBED IN THE AMBER ALERT.
HE DIDN'T JUST PASS THAT VEHICLE UP, HE DIDN'T JUST GO ON HOME AND JUST THINK HE MIGHT'VE SAW THE VEHICLE AND TAKE NO ACTION.
HE DECIDED TO ENTER THE PARKING LOT TO MAKE A SAFE DISTANCE DRIVE AROUND, UH, IN INCONSPICUOUS MANNER, AND GOT A BETTER LOOK AT THE VEHICLE.
HE WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN THE, MAKE THE MODEL, THE DESCRIPTION, THE PAINT COLOR, AND ULTIMATELY A LICENSE PLATE NUMBER AND VERIFY THAT THAT MATCHED THAT AMBER ALERT WHERE WE WERE LOOKING FOR THESE TWO YOUNG GIRLS.
HE HEATED THEIR INSTRUCTIONS AND REMAINED AT A SAFE DISTANCE CONFIRMING THAT THIS WAS IN FACT THE VEHICLE THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
UH, THAT 9 1 1 AGENCY SENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FROM TWO DIFFERENT AGENCIES, UH, TWO DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, A COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AND THEY RELAYED THAT INFORMATION TO KYLE PD.
AND WE ALSO RESPONDED, SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME.
WE DID RECOVER THOSE TWO YOUNG SIX-YEAR-OLD GIRLS THAT NIGHT.
THEY WERE, IN FACT, IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
THEY WERE NOT BEING CARED FOR PROPERLY.
THEY WERE WITH SOMEONE THAT WAS ARRESTED ON MULTIPLE CHARGES FOR POSSESSIONS OF VERY, VERY DANGEROUS DRUGS IN THE VEHICLE.
UH, THAT PERSON WAS NOT, UH, EVEN AWARE OF WHERE THEY WERE, WERE WHERE THEY WERE LOCATED, OR WHETHER THESE CHILDREN WERE EVEN STILL IN THE CAR.
SO, UM, AS A WAY OF REMINDING YOU AND, AND TAKING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REMIND EVERYONE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE AMBER ALERT, WE KNOW THE AMBER ALERT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
IN FACT, IT WAS CREATED IN 19 AFTER AN EVENT THAT OCCURRED IN ARLINGTON, TEXAS IN 1996.
YOUNG, YOUNG, YOUNG AMBER HAGERMAN WAS ABDUCTED AND FOUND SEVERAL DAYS LATER, DECEASED.
UH, THEY DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS A NEED TO HAVE AN IMMEDIATE ALERT SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE SHARED ACROSS THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, PERHAPS STATEWIDE AND OTHER INTO OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
UH, AND THAT SYSTEM IS NOW, UH, WHAT WE CALL THE AMBER ALERT, UH, HERE IN TEXAS AND ACROSS THE NATION.
AND IT'S USED, UH, OFTEN WHEN CHILDREN ARE IN DANGER AND WE NEED TO GET WORD OUT QUICKLY BEYOND THE REGULAR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WE NEED TO CALL UP ON OUR LOCAL CITIZENS.
THE CALL POLICE DEPARTMENT TONIGHT WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MR. HECTOR VILLEREAL IN RECOGNITION FOR HIS QUICK THINKING AND ACCURATE RELAY OF VITAL INFORMATION THAT HELPED FIRST RESPONDERS LOCATE A VEHICLE AND PREVENT POTENTIAL INJURIES TO THE TWO CHILDREN IN AN ACTIVE AMBER ALERT IF WE CAN INVITE MR. HECTOR VIAL, OUR LOCAL CITIZEN, TO COME FORWARD AND RECEIVE THIS, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF YOU'D LIKE FIRST.
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22 YEARS OLD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, THANK THE KYLE POLICE FOR THIS CERTIFICATE THAT I AM RECEIVING.UH, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY SOME WORDS.
UM, UH, WHEN I WAS ON MY WAY HOME, YOU KNOW, I, UH, AND I SAW THE AMBER ALERT.
UH, I KNOW THAT GOD WAS TRYING TO TELL ME SOMETHING, UH, NOT QUITE SURE WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO TELL ME, BUT HE WAS TRYING TO TELL ME SOMETHING.
UM, SO ONCE I PASSED THAT STORE, UH, SOMETHING MADE ME LOOK, UH, JUST TO THAT STORE.
ONCE I SAW THAT STORE AND I SAW THE VEHICLE DESCRIPTION MATCH JUST AS THE A ALERT, I QUICKLY WENT INTO THE STORE AND MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING MATCHED UP.
ONCE I MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING MATCHED UP, I GAVE A POLICE CALL, UH, THE CALL.
AND ONCE I WAITED FOR THE POLICE TO ARRIVE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GIRLS WERE JUST SAFE AND UNHARMED.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTARY? COUNCILOR PARSLEY? YES, I DID.
UM, SO WE ARE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
NOT EVERYBODY WOULD STOP BY NOBODY.
NOT EVERYBODY WILL JUST TAKE A LOOK A SECOND LOOK AT THE CAR TO SEE, HEY, IS THIS A CAR THAT I JUST GOT AN ALERT? BUT, UM, I, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY TEXT MESSAGES PROBABLY CHIEF GOT FROM ME, BECAUSE THOSE TWO MINORS WERE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAD A FULL INBOX OF MESSAGES FROM EVERYBODY TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WHAT ARE WE DOING? UH, WHEN ARE YOU GUYS GONNA ISSUE AN AMBER ALERT? AND EVERYBODY WAS GOING CRAZY.
SO WHEN I HEARD THAT THEY HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE KIDS THAT THE TWO CHILDREN WERE BACK HOME SAFE, AND SHE SAID, SOMEBODY RESPONDED TO THE AMBER ALERT, I SAID, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THOSE SERVICES.
SO IT MADE ME SO HAPPY WHEN TO HAVE YOU HERE AND, AND BE ABLE TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF KAO, ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
MR. AL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR, FOR GETTING INVOLVED.
YOU KNOW, UM, YOU'RE RIGHT, PROBABLY SOMETHING WAS TELLING, TELLING YOU FROM ABOVE IN A SENSE, AND, AND A LOT OF, SOMETIMES THESE STORIES DON'T END THE WAY THEY DO VERY TRAGICALLY.
BUT FOR YOU TO REALLY STOP AND THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION AND GETTING THE INFORMATION AND FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS FROM THE 9 1 1 OPERATOR, I'M SURE IT SAID, TO KEEP IT A SAFE DIFFERENT DISTANCE, UM, THE OUTCOME, YOU SAVE THOSE LITTLE GIRLS, AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD, THEIR, THEIR FAMILIES WILL BE ETERNALLY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
SO ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT, THAT YOU WERE THERE AT THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME, AND WE CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR WHAT YOU DID AND, AND THE CITY AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR, FOR YOUR BRAVERY AND, AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO MAKING SURE THAT THOSE LITTLE GIRLS WERE SAFE.
YOU'RE THEIR HERO, BY THE WAY, REMEMBER THAT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCIL HARRIS, MY EX WAS A POLICE OFFICER IN ARLINGTON WHEN THE AMBER CASE HAPPENED, AND HE WAS, UM, ON THAT CASE.
IT HAUNTED HIM THE WHOLE 40 YEARS OF HIS CAREER.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAVING THOSE GIRLS.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU, SIR.
UM, JUST HAVING THAT REFLEX AND THAT INSTINCT TO, TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAW ON THAT AMBER ALERT.
UM, MOST, SOME PEOPLE WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, NOT LOOKED AT IT AND CONTINUED GOING, BUT THEN THE NEXT DAY YOU WOULD'VE, YOU WOULD'VE LIVED WITH THAT KNOWING THAT YOU COULD'VE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, IF THE SITUATION HAD GOTTEN TO
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WORSE.BUT, UH, DOING THE RIGHT THING.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU JUST, YOU, YOU'VE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION AND VERY, VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU AGAIN, HECTOR.
[9. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding Project Two Step. ~ Victoria Vargas, Director of Economic Development]
ITEM NUMBER NINE.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD THE DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING PROJECT TWO STEP, UH, MS. VARGAS VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
FOR THE RECORD, UM, I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU A PROJECT, UH, THAT WE CALL TWO STEP, UH, THE DEVELOPER IS CAPELLA.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS, UH, VERY EXCITING TO ME BECAUSE FOR MANY YEARS I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE AREA AND HAVE SEEN THIS LAND, UM, VACANT AND BEEN EXCITED TO SEE WHO WANTS TO TAKE IT ON AND WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THIS PROPERTY.
UM, YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THE ONE 50 EAST, UM, CURVE.
IT'S RIGHT WHERE THE DAIRY QUEEN IS, SO EVERYBODY THAT, UH, IS CAN SEE THE MAP.
IT'S, IT'S WHERE ONE 50 SPLITS, THE TWO PROPERTIES.
UH, THERE'S A EAST TRACK AND A WEST TRACK.
UH, IT'S ABOUT 45 ACRES TOTAL.
I WILL INTRODUCE HIM IN A MOMENT, BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU SOME BRIEF, UH, BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT AND WHAT TO EXPECT.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, FROM CAPELLA.
UM, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE CAN EXPECT JUST IN A DOCUMENTS AND TIMELINE OF HOW, UM, WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO PROCEED WITH COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
UH, THERE WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, A P FOR, UH, ZONING AND, UH, LAND, LAND USE, ANY VARIANCES THAT MIGHT COME UP.
THERE'S, UH, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPER THROUGH A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT.
UH, WE ARE HERE ON THE 19TH PRESENTING AN OPEN SESSION, AND WE ARE REQUESTING COUNSEL'S DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE CAN BRING BACK A, UH, BY FEBRUARY AND MARCH, UH, TO MARCH.
WE CAN BRING BACK, UM, THE PUD, THE DA, THE THREE 80 FOR CONSIDERATION, ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE IS A FINAL FINANCIAL REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPER FOR APPROXIMATELY 14 MILLION, 14.3 MILLION, AND BY WAY OF, UH, 50% PROPERTY AND SALES TAX REBATES FOR APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS.
BUT THE NET BENEFIT TO THE CITY THAT WE WILL SEE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS FROM THIS PROJECT OUTSIDE OF THE INCENTIVE REQUEST IS $22 MILLION IN INCREASED, UH, SALES TAX REVENUE, AND 40 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX.
AND THE FINANCIAL REQUEST, THIS IS AN OUTLINE OF WHAT THE REQUEST IS FOR.
SO JUST KEEP IN MIND WHEN, UH, TODD IS GOING THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION, HE'LL, HE WILL DETAIL OUT ALL OF THESE, UM, PROJECTS.
BUT THIS IS WHAT THE REQUEST IS FOR.
THERE WILL BE A PARKING STRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE LARGEST COST.
SO THE, THE PARKING GARAGE WILL ALLOW, UH, MORE DENSITY IN THE PROJECT.
UM, WE CAN DISCUSS THE SCREENING OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE, A DOG PARK, PARK, LAND VIBE, TRAIL CONNECTION, AN AMPHITHEATER, PICKLEBALL, COURTS, PUBLIC ART MURALS, STATUES AND INTERACTIVE POND WITH PADDLE BOARDING AND CANOES AND FOUNTAINS.
UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS AND SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
UH, TURNING LANES ON ONE 50 EAST TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UM, POSSIBLY THROUGHOUT THE, THE PROJECT AS WELL.
AND THEN, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, WATER, WASTEWATER LINES, ELECTRIC LINES BURIED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE EXISTING ELECTRIC LINES, UH, THAT ARE ALONG 35 IN THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT, UH, ARE ALSO, UH, FOR DISCUSSION AS WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH THE DEVELOPER.
UM, AND SO LET ME JUST CALL UP TODD DALEY WITH CAPELLA.
HE CAN INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND THEN HE'LL GO THROUGH THE SLIDES AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT.
I THINK SHE DID SUCH A GREAT JOB.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY, BUT, UM, I'M HERE AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN HERE.
I, I'VE COME TO KYLE BACK IN 20 JUNE OF 2021.
I'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY.
AND EVERYBODY'S BEEN OPENED ARMED ABOUT, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME IN, WE'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOUR IDEAS ARE.
AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WANTING TO DO SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL HERE.
THE IDEA WAS TO CREATE A, UH, A PLACE THAT WAS A DESTINATION THAT BROUGHT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES, THE, THE NEIGHBORS, AND JUST MAKE IT SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL INSTEAD OF JUST A TYPICAL RETAIL SLASH MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO I'VE COME UP WITH THIS CONCEPT OF, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN RUN THROUGH THE SLIDES OF DOING THIS MIXED USE, BUT I REALLY WANT IT TO BE MORE IMPORTANT FOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT AN AMPHITHEATER AS YOU MENTIONED IN DOG PARKS.
AND SO I JUST WANT IT TO BE A EVERYBODY TO COME TO THIS COMMUNITY.
AND WHEN I CAME HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, THERE WAS A,
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UM, THE INTRODUCTION OF THE VIBE TRAIL CONCEPT THAT CAME TO MIND.AND SO WHEN THAT, WHEN I STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT AND REVIEWING IT AND REVISITING THE WHOLE IDEA, IT REALLY GOT ME EXCITED ABOUT WHERE KYLE WAS HEADED.
AND I'VE DONE DEVELOPMENTS FROM CENTRAL TEXAS, FROM GEORGETOWN, WACO, TO ALL THE WAY TO, UH, BUTTA.
AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT I'VE DONE IN KYLE.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF HOW EVERYBODY'S TREATED US OVER ALL THESE MEETINGS OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND, AND GOING THROUGH DIFFERENT TYPE SCENARIOS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE AND WHY WE THINK IT'S SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE.
BUT HECTOR WAS, UH, REALLY HEARTFELT ABOUT WHAT HE'S DONE AND, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF COMMUNITY WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE COMING TO.
SO, UM, IF YOU MAY WALK YOU THROUGH THIS, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO RUN THIS SLIDES.
WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.
WE'VE DONE OFFICE, RETAIL, MEDICAL, MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS.
WE'VE, UM, WE'VE KIND OF DONE A SMORGASBORD, UH, WE'VE DONE, UM, INDUSTRIAL, WE'VE DONE, UH, STORAGE.
SO WE'VE KIND OF JUST COME TO THIS AREA.
I WAS BROUGHT THIS PROPERTY THROUGH SOMEBODY THAT KNEW THE HEB FOLKS AND MADE AN INTRODUCTION.
AND SO IMMEDIATELY I GOT EXCITED ABOUT IT, STARTED MEETING WITH THE CITY BACK IN 2021, AS I MENTIONED, AND CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY IN, UH, NOVEMBER OF 2021.
AND SO HERE WE ARE WORKING TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER, UM, HOPING TO GET SOME MOVEMENT ON THIS AND, AND MAKE THIS A REAL REALITY.
UM, SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US.
WE'RE A BROKERAGE FIRM AND A DEVELOPMENT FIRM.
SO WE'RE BOTH, WE KIND OF ACT IN TWO PARTS.
THIS IS A KIND OF A, I'VE HAD A TEAM OF PROBABLY 20, 25 PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS DESIGN.
I'VE HAD LAND PLANNERS, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, WE HAVE ENGINEERING IN HERE TODAY ACTUALLY, THAT I DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE.
BUT, UM, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF GROUPS THAT HAVE COME IN AND HELP US COME WITH THIS CONCEPTUAL IDEA AND COME UP WITH THESE CREATIVE SLIDES THAT WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH.
THAT FRONT, UH, 35 IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH A PARKING GARAGE.
WE'VE GOT THE AMPHITHEATER AND KIND OF THE MIDDLE, UM, OF THE PROJECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN BLOW THIS UP, BUT, UM, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE CREATED THIS IDEA OF REALLY THROWING IN A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS RESTAURANTS AND MUSIC AND SOME LOCAL SHOPS.
WE'RE TRYING TO CATER TO MORE OF THE LOCAL INTERESTS.
AND WE ARE GOING TO A NATIONAL INTEREST GROUP OF PEOPLE.
WE'VE CREATED SOME TOWN HOMES ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, ORIGINALLY WE WERE TOLD MAYBE WE WANNA DO FLATS AND THEN WE WENT TO TOWN HOMES BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE AND PEOPLE WANNA LIVE IN A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS OR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS TO SCREEN SOME OF THE PARKING GARAGE FROM THE HIGHWAY.
WE'VE, UM, CREATED SOME ADDITIONAL FLATS ON TOP OF THE RETAIL THAT'S SHOWN IN, UH, NUMBER FOUR, UM, DUE TO SOME REQUESTS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO THE AREA.
WE'VE KIND OF LET THE MULTIFAMILY KIND OF BY ITSELF.
AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE THIS IS MORE OF A COMMUNITY PLACE THAN JUST FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY TENANTS.
SO WE WANTED THIS TO BE A PARK SETTING WITH SOME WATER FEATURES WHERE THE KIDS CAN GO AND, AND SIT AROUND THE PONDS, FEED THE DUCKS, UH, PADDLEBOARD, CANOES, WHATEVER.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO STRIVE ON, ON THE WEST SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE OF THE FREEWAY, OR, UH, ONE 50.
ACTUALLY WE'VE, UM, AND I'LL, I'LL RAMBLE SOME, SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOTTA STOP ME AND SAY, OKAY, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE,
UM, SO WE'VE COME UP WITH THIS CREATIVE IDEA WITH, LIKE I SAID, A NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, PLUS 25 PLUS PROFESSIONALS THAT DO THIS.
AND, UM, THE IDEA IS TO IS TO JUST MOVE FORWARD AND GET THIS DONE AND, AND BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY IN, IN, IN ITSELF.
UM, THESE ARE JUST KIND OF RENDERINGS THAT WE HAD OUR ARCHITECT DO.
UH, THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE PROGRAM.
I MEAN, WE GOT, WE HAVE, IT'S CALLED A BEER GARDEN.
WE'VE GOT SOME WATER, UH, RAFTS AND STUFF, THEREFORE WE'VE GOT SOME FOUNTAINS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE OF AN UPPER END RETAIL.
WE WANT IT TO BE A COMMUNITY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WE WANT IT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY.
WE THINK IT'S, UH, GONNA CATER TO THE GOLF CART COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAILS BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM.
UM, NEXT SLIDE IS WHEN I, ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS I HAD HERE, THERE WAS TALK AND, UM, I'VE HAD SO MANY MEETINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT BROUGHT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE ONE 50 CORRIDOR AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE FREEWAY.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE CAME UP WITH A SILO IDEA THAT, AND WE ASKED IF WE COULD DO SOME DIGITAL SCREENING WHERE WE COULD CHANGE OUT MAYBE, UM, WEEKLY OR MONTHLY WHAT ATTRACTIONS ARE GONNA COME TO THAT AREA.
SO WHETHER IT'S A CONCERT VENUE, WHETHER IT'S A FARMER'S MARKET, WHETHER IT'S, UM, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING SPECIAL THAT REALLY GRABBED YOUR ATTENTION AND BROUGHT YOU TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY.
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UM, SO THAT'S WHY THE SILO'S THERE.THERE'S SOME DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER IT'S 1880 OR 1881, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK INTO THAT.
WELL, I WAS LOOKING YOU WAS JOHN'S WEBSITE I THOUGHT TOO MUCH FURTHER.
YEAH, WELL, SO, SO WHAT'S FUNNY IS WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF 1880 BASED ON YOUR WEBSITE, I GUESS.
AND SO, UH, WE WERE TOLD THAT MAYBE THAT WON'T WORK BECAUSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY A, A SUBDIVISION OR SOMETHING CLOSE BY THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THAT NAME.
AND SO THEY NICKNAMED IT TWO STEP, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS REALLY COOL BECAUSE KIND OF OUR MURALS AND EVERYTHING.
AND THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS, AGAIN, PEOPLE COME HERE FOR THE WEEKEND OR THE WEEKDAY OR WHATEVER IT IS TO LISTEN TO MUSIC OR, YOU KNOW, JUST SHOP WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO, HAVE FOOD.
SO YEAH, BUT I, I GIVE THAT CREDIT TO YOUR STAFF, THAT WASN'T SOMETHING WE CAME UP WITH.
SO, UM, SO THERE'S SOME MURALS, WE PUT SOME ART MURALS.
UM, IT WAS JUST KIND OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS NECESSARY TO, TO DRAW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN HERE.
WE PLAN ON GETTING MORE INVOLVED IN THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS.
WE, WE'VE PUT SOME LITTLE BUDGETS TOGETHER ON WHAT IT MIGHT COST, BUT WE REALLY HAVEN'T GOT INTO DETAIL WITH THE ARTS DEPARTMENT HERE THAT, THAT WE NEED TO START MEETING WITH.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS THING MOVING FORWARD AND, AND SPEND SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY AND COST TO GET THIS PASSED.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE VERY INFLUENTIAL ON OUR DESIGN STANDARDS.
SO THAT'S OTHER STUFF THAT WE'VE KIND OF DONE IS, YOU KNOW, UM, WE WANT EVERYTHING TO KIND OF COEXIST WITH EVEN WHAT YOU'RE DOING DOWNTOWN NOW WITH THE, UH, KIND OF, UH, WHAT IS IT? IT, IT'S KIND OF A, I GUESS A WHAT, WHAT, I'M NOT REAL SURE BRIAN, BUT IT WAS LIKE, Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO READ, DO DOWNTOWN TO A NEW IMAGE.
AND SO WE WANNA BE PART OF THAT.
WE WANNA BE AFFILIATED WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THERE WITH, WITH STONE AND, AND TILE AND YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURAL WORK.
SO THAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR US.
AND THEN THESE ARE JUST MORE IMAGES OF THE RETAIL.
THAT'S THE, UH, CENTER OF THE RETAIL WITH THE AMPHITHEATER IN THE BACKGROUND.
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ONE 50, WE'RE PROPOSING A LIGHT GO THERE.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD OUR T-I-T-I-A STUDY DONE.
IT'S GOT MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU PROBABLY WANT TO HEAR.
WE PUT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ON THE TOP.
ORIGINALLY WE HAD 'EM ON THE GARAGE, SO PARKING GARAGE ACROSS THE STREET.
BUT WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A BETTER FIT WITH THE VIEWS OF THE LAKES BEHIND US, THE FOUNTAINS AND, AND JUST THE WHOLE AREA, JUST BRINGING PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, MORE IDEAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FEATURES AROUND THE PONDS, MAKING 'EM ATTRACTIVE FOR THE KIDS AND THE PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND VISIT.
UM, THIS IS MORE OF THE MULTI-FAMILY.
IT'S THE BEER GARDEN THAT FACES THE LAKE.
AS YOU'LL SEE, IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY ENOUGH, THEY'VE, THE ARCHITECT THAT DID IT, SPELLED IT BIER, NOW IT'S, AND ON ONE SLIDE IT'LL SAY BER, THIS ONE
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED.
THIS IS A, THE DOG PARK WE'VE KIND OF CREATED, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE OVER THERE FOR KIDS AND FAMILIES TO GO OVER THERE AND WALK THEIR DOGS AND LET 'EM JUST GO AROUND THE LAKE.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST MORE STUFF ABOUT US AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS WE'VE DONE.
ALRIGHT, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER, CUSTOMER, OR PARSLEY? THANK YOU.
SO I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
I THINK THE RENDERINGS THAT YOU HAVE ARE ONES THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BE PICKING, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THIS OR I DON'T LIKE THAT.
UM, SO I WOULD EXPECT TO HOPEFULLY SEE SOMETHING TO THE STANDARDS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING UP RIGHT HERE WHENEVER THE DEVELOPMENT IS FINISHED.
UM, I LOVE THE WATER FEATURES BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE, THE KAYAK AND ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE WATER FEATURES LOOK VERY, UM, EYE APPEALING.
I SEE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE AND THE ONLY WORRY I HAVE IS BECAUSE WE ARE IN SUCH A BAD SHAPE WITH THE WATER.
WHAT KIND OF A PROPOSAL DO YOU HAVE WITH THE GREEN SPACES THAT WILL TIE TO OUR WATER CONSERVATION? IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF DO ARTIFICIAL TURF OR DO ANYTHING, ANY TYPE OF LANDSCAPING THAT WILL BE, UM, THAT WILL HELP US WITH THE WATER CONSERVATION? YES, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO DO SOME ARTIFICIAL TURF BECAUSE IT HELPS ON LANDSCAPE AND HELPS WITH WATER, LIKE YOU SAID, RESTRICTIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE CONSIDERED.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF OUR NEXT STEP IS TO GET THE ARCHITECT AND CIVIL ENGINEERS AND ALL THESE GUYS COMPLETELY ENGAGED.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE WAITING FOR IS TO GET SOME OF Y'ALL'S APPROVAL PROCESS WHERE WE CAN START REALLY SPENDING SOME REAL MONEY ON GETTING THOSE DESIGNS.
BUT YEAH, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO BE CONSERVATIVE.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING WHICH YOU ARE TOUCHING
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FOR IS THAT, UM, I LOVE TO SEE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EXCITES ME THE MOST IS YOUR PARKING GARAGE.UM, BECAUSE I HATE TO SEE ALL THAT WASTED SPACE TO HAVING FLAT PARKING THAT IS JUST LIKE USELESS TO ME.
SO I THINK IT, I FIND IT VERY COHESIVE, THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.
I'M EXCITED TO SEE YOU GUYS WORKING WITH OUR ARTS PORT BECAUSE I, THE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS TO SEE THAT PARKING GARAGE, WHATEVER IT'S EXPOSED TO BE COVERED IN SOME SORT OF ARTISTIC MURALS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, WE, WE, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS AND I VISITED THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED US THE MOST WAS HOW PRETTY THE PARKING GARAGE WAS.
SO WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I, I AM IN FULL FAVOR OF, OF HAVING YOU WELCOME YOU.
I WELCOME YOU TO, TO THE CITY OF GOD.
THAT'S, UM, THAT IS OUR PLAN AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE PARKING GARAGE ACTUALLY WE HOPE TO HAVE A SALES AND LEASING CART CENTER THERE WHERE IT DRAG, IT DRAWS PEOPLE OVER THERE TO BRING THEIR CARS, GET THEIR KIDS WHATEVER, AND GO TOUR THE CITY WHEREVER THEY CAN GET AROUND WITH THE TRAILS.
AND, UM, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING CREATIVE WITH THE PARKING GARAGE AND, AND CREATE SOMETHING REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE CUSTOMER HARRIS.
WELL, I, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY ABOUT THE WATER ISSUES.
UM, HOWEVER, BUILDINGS CAN BE DESIGNED TO EFFICIENTLY UTILIZE THEIR WATER.
UM, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WHERE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SELF WATER THE AREAS THAT ARE GREEN AND, AND, UM, IF YOU'RE USING NATIVE PLANTINGS, WHICH I ASSUME YOU WOULD BE, UH, THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE PLANTINGS MIGHT NOT REQUIRE TOO MUCH WATER, BUT USING THE CONDENSATE FROM THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, UH, CAN ACTUALLY WATER EVERYTHING, UH, WITH THIS LARGER DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN BRING BACK THAT WILL HELP US RELIEVE OUR ANXIETY ABOUT THE WATER USE.
WE PLAN ON USING SOME RAINWATER COLLECTION SYSTEMS OF, OF SOME SORT AND, AND WHEREVER WE CAN, I MEAN, WE REALIZE THERE'S A LOT OF SURFACE BEING UTILIZED AND WE DON'T, WE WANNA MAKE USE OF THAT WATER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
OH, COUNCILOR RIZZO, GO AHEAD.
WELL LET'S GET, LET'S GET YOU COUNCILOR RIZZO, 'CAUSE I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE TV QUICKLY ENOUGH.
YEAH, JUST WANT TO, UH, JUST POINT OUT SOME THINGS.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE, THE DOG PARK, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE, UH, HAVE SOME KIND OF SHADE BECAUSE IT GETS REALLY HOT HERE IN THE SUMMERTIME.
SO HAVING SOME SHADE, UH, AROUND THE DOG PARK.
ALSO, I'VE TAKEN SOME, UH, UH, FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS.
UH, THERE'S SOME RESIDENTS THAT LIKE TO WALK THEIR DOGS IN THE EVENING HOURS AND OUR DOG PARKS, UH, RIGHT NOW TURN OFF THE LIGHTS AT NIGHT.
SO MAYBE, UH, A LIGHT LIGHTING ASPECT, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HEARING TO DARK SKIES, SO LED POINTED DOWN, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT WAY THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS AREN'T PICKING UP THAT LIGHT AS WELL.
UH, YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT'D BE GREAT.
THE OTHER THING'S, MAKING SURE THAT THE POND IS AERATED AND ALSO THAT IT, IT'S CODIFIED IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THAT'S GONNA BE AN OPEN SPACE FOR THE ALL THE RESIDENTS AS WELL OF KYLE.
THAT THAT'S, THAT IS THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED.
IT'S FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS, NOT JUST THE MULTIFAMILY.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WE CAME UP WITH IT MORE AS A COMMUNITY CENTER, NOT JUST THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, ACHIEVE THE LIGHTING THAT YOU'RE NEEDING AND, AND SOME SHADE.
AND WHETHER IT'S WITH SOME TYPE OF CANVAS THAT'S GOTTA BE, THAT WE LIKE IN GREEN OR SOME OTHER COLOR, UM, IS DEFINITELY DOABLE TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE HEAT OFF.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER OTHER AMENITIES THAT Y'ALL WANNA TELL US ABOUT, WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR AND, AND WE'D LOVE TO TRY TO INTRODUCE IT.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MUCH NEEDED RETAIL OPTIONS TO THE EAST SIDE OF 35.
UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S MUCH NEEDED AND RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR IT.
UH, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE, UH, WHAT YOU ALL SELECT TO PUT IN THE, THE RETAIL SPACES.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT, UH, WHERE YOU GUYS LAND IS SOMETHING THAT ADDS VALUE TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT TO ME IN THE END HERE.
UM, I MEAN THAT'S THE IDEAS IS WE REALLY DON'T WANT, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT THESE NATIONAL CHAINS IN THERE.
UM, WE WANT IT TO BE LOCAL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND THE IDEA OF, OF HAVING A REALLY QUALITY CONTROL OF HOW WE DO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US.
SO IT'S NOT ABOUT, UM, BRINGING IN, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN CONTACTED, I, I MENTIONED FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT MCDONALD'S AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE, NO, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT OUR, THAT'S NOT OUR DEAL.
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SO YEAH, THAT'S MUSIC.LIKE YOU'RE SPEAKING OUR LANGUAGE RIGHT THERE.
THAT IS, THAT IS A PERFECT LOCATION FOR VERY LOCAL GRASSROOTS TYPES OF, UM, RESTAURANTS AND, UM, RETAIL THAT THE, THE SMALLER, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOPS IN THERE.
SO I HEARD, UH, SHADED DOG PARK, ARTIFICIAL GRASS AND COMMON AREAS, NATIVE PLANTINGS, RAINWATER WATER COLLECTION, GARAGE, SHROUDING MURALS, ART THROUGHOUT.
ONE MORE QUICK THING, UH, Y'ALL BETTER BE PREPARED TO BE THE ONLY PICKLEBALL COURTS IN TOWN.
THAT MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT SOMEONE MANAGING THE USAGE ON THAT ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A THIRD PARTY GROUP.
IS, IS, IS THE INTENT TO DEDICATE ALL OF THE GREEN SPACE AS A PUBLIC PARK? IS THAT THE WAY IT'S BEING APPROACHED? CORRECT.
SO THAT, UH, PARKS AND REC WILL BE THE ONE MAINTAINING AND PROGRAMMING IT.
UH, WE, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS YET ON WHO'S GONNA BE MAINTAINING IT.
I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S US MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY THROUGH A HOA OF SOME SORT AND EVEN TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE OR THE WET AREAS BEHIND IT.
WE, WE WANT TO KEEP THAT MANICURED AS WELL.
AND INSTEAD OF LETTING IT GROW KIND OF RIGHT, THESE ARE ALL THINGS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK, WORK WITH ON STAFF TO FLESH OUT.
BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, FEEDBACK FROM US IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR TO HELP YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING THIS FORWARD? I THINK THE WATER, UH, USAGE WAS SOMETHING I, I DON'T RECALL IF YOU MADE THAT COMMENT, MAYOR, BUT I, I HEARD THAT.
AND UM, THE OTHER ITEMS, ARTIFICIAL TURF SCREENING OF THE PARKING GARAGE, UH, LOOKING AT YOU MAKING SURE THESE, THESE AREAS WITH THE POND IS OPEN FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
DOG PARK, SHADING, LIGHTING, WE, WE HAVE ALL THOSE THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND PUT SOME MAY I SPECIFICS TO AND WORK WITH.
WHAT WAS THAT? MAY I ADD SOMETHING? UH, JUST TO SEE IF YOU GUYS CAN WORK ON GETTING PURPLE PIPE THROUGH THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN DO.
LIKE RECLAIM WATER TO ATTACH TO THE RECLAIM WATER SYSTEM.
SINCE YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE A COUPLE OF LIKE WATER FEATURES, IT'LL BE, THAT WILL REALLY, REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR US INTO THE WATER CONSERVATION.
'CAUSE THAT WAY YOU CAN POSSIBLY USE THAT SAME RECLAIMED WATER TO, YOU KNOW, FOR IRRIGATION FOR THE GREEN SPACES.
WE CAN GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION OF THAT TO SEE WHAT MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR IT.
AND TRY TO COME BACK WITH AN OVERALL WATER PLAN.
I MEAN, AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR AGENDA RIGHT NOW IS TO GET EVERYBODY, ALL THE PROFESSIONAL PARTIES TOGETHER THAT KNOW THAT KIND TYPE OF BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN HELP US WITH THAT.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE WANT TO KICK THIS TEAM OFF AND GET IT GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BUT WE'LL BE VERY, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE HAVE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT TRYING TO DO THE BEST THING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT BUT ALSO DOING THE BEST THING FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO PROCEED WITH THAT, WITH THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, WE'LL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO PUT THAT IN A FORM OF AN AGREEMENT AND A PUD DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN BRING BACK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANY OTHER FEEDBACK? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
[10. Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on the proposed changes to the City's budget development process for Fiscal Year 2024-2025 and for selection of location for the 2024 City Council's Visioning Workshop. ~ Perwez A. Moheet, CPA, Director of Finance]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.UH, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION PROVIDES STAFF DIRECTION ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 20 25.
AND FOR SELECTION OF A LOCATION FOR THE 2024 CITY'S COUNCIL VISIONING WORKSHOP, MR. MOHIT, MAYOR AND MAYOR PROAM COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD, I'M PURVES MA CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND THE CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN EXAMINING AND EVALUATING THE CITY'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT AND ADOPTION PROCESS SINCE YOU GOT HERE.
UM, AS A RESULT OF THIS ASSESSMENT, THE CITY MANAGER HAS IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CURRENT BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT WILL RESULT IN INCREASED ACCOUNTABILITY, EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS.
WITH THE HELP OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM, AND ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL MAKE A GOOD PROCESS EVEN BETTER.
THE CITY MANAGERS ASSESSMENT OF THE CURRENT BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IDENTIFIED FOUR AREAS OF CHALLENGES.
THIS REPORT TODAY WILL REVIEW THESE CHALLENGES WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CHANGES THAT WILL BE MADE TO MITIGATE THESE CHALLENGES IN THE CITY'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS GOING FORWARD.
SO WITH THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO WALK YOU THROUGH.
WE'LL COVER THE OBJECTIVES FOR PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, KEY CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, PROPOSED BUDGET DEVELOPMENT AND ADOPTION TIMELINE FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 CITY'S CITY
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COUNCIL'S VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP.AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT CITY COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON BUDGET PROCESS CHANGES AND CLOSE WITH CITY MANAGER'S.
SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, UM, IDENTIFIED? THERE ARE FOUR.
ONE, THE CURRENT PROCESS RELIES ON VERY LONG DETAILED BUDGET WORK SESSIONS HELD ON THE WEEKENDS.
NUMBER TWO, WORK SESSIONS PROVIDE A GREAT DEAL OF VALUABLE INFORMATION, BUT DISCONNECTED FROM ANY STRATEGIC GOALS OR DIRECTION FOR THE CITY.
NUMBER THREE, INFORMATION PRESENTED IS A LIST OF REQUESTS FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS, BUT IT LACKS CONTEXT ON WHY THE FUNDS OR POSITIONS ARE NEEDED OR REQUESTED.
AND FINALLY, NUMBER FOUR, DEPARTMENTAL PRESENTATIONS SHOULD PROVIDE MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT GOALS, PERFORMANCE, AND CHALLENGES THAT NEED TO BE MET AND ADDRESSED.
SO WHAT WERE THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES FOR THE CHANGES IN THE BUDGET PROCESS? THERE ARE SEVEN STREAMLINE.
NUMBER ONE, STREAMLINE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT AND ADOPTION PROCESS.
NUMBER TWO, EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT UTILIZATION OF CITY COUNCIL'S VALUABLE TIME.
NUMBER THREE, ENHANCED PROCESS TO FOCUS ON CITY COUNCIL'S, BUDGET PRIORITIES AND DIRECTIONS.
NUMBER FOUR, INCREASED TRANSPARENCY FOR CITY COUNCIL AND PUBLIC INPUT.
NUMBER FIVE, FOCUS BUDGET DISCUSSIONS BASED ON PERFORMANCE METRICS FOR CITY'S MAJOR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.
NUMBER SIX, SPREAD OUT BUDGET MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS RATHER THAN PACKING WITHIN A SHORT AND COMPRESSED TIMEFRAME.
AND NUMBER SEVEN, REDUCE OR PERHAPS ELIMINATE NUMBER OF SATURDAY BUDGET MEETINGS.
SO HERE ARE THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S, UH, BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
NUMBER ONE, CITY COUNCIL'S VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP HELD IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY OF EACH YEAR WILL KICK OFF THE CITY'S BUDGET.
THIS, UH, THIS VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP WILL PROVIDE DIRECTION AND PRIORITIES TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY'S OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGETS.
NUMBER THREE, FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL'S VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP IN 24, THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF WILL BEGIN CREATING THE CITY'S VERY FIRST STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO WHAT DO WE MEAN BY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT UTILIZATION OF CITY COUNCIL'S? VALUABLE TIME, WE WILL ENSURE THAT BUDGET MEETINGS WILL FOCUS ON CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR CITY'S MAJOR PROGRAMS. PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT COME OUT FROM DIVISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP.
THE BUDGET MEETINGS WILL FOCUS ON PERFORMANCE METRICS FOR EACH CITY DEPARTMENT'S.
FOR EXAMPLE, PROGRAMS AND SERVICES DELIVERED BY CITY DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS BY HUMAN RESOURCES, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC WORKS, WATER AND WASTEWATER.
AND BY PERFORMANCE METRICS, BUDGET DEVELOPMENT FOR CITIES, MAJOR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES WILL BE BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND PRIORITIES PROVIDED IN THE VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP, THE FOCUS OF BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WILL BE, AGAIN, ON PERFORMANCE METRICS FOR EACH OF THE MAJOR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES FOR PARKS, WHICH PARKS WILL BE IMPROVED, WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE MADE.
BASICALLY, WHAT ARE YOU GETTING FOR YOUR MONEY, FOR YOUR TAX DOLLARS.
SIMILARLY, FOR STREET MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION, STORM DRAINAGE, PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE IMPROVEMENTS, WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM CAPACITY AND OPERATIONS.
AND FINALLY, COMPLETION AND DELIVERY OF MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS OR CIPS.
SO HOW DO WE SPREAD OUT AND NOT COMPRESS THE BUDGET CYCLE OR DEVELOPMENT CYCLE? THE CURRENT PROCESS, WE COVER THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT AND ADOPTION PROCESS WITHIN A FOUR MONTH, ALMOST
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THREE AND A HALF MONTH TIMEFRAME.SO HERE'S A, A ROUGH TENTATIVE CALENDAR FOR NEXT CYCLE IN FEBRUARY, CITY COUNCIL'S VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP WILL TAKE PLACE IN MARCH.
THE COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS COME IN, WHICH WE SHARE WITH COUNCIL ALSO IN MARCH.
BASED ON THOSE TWO ELEMENTS, WE WILL DEVELOP THE BUDGET INITIATIVES, THE FOCUS AREAS IDENTIFIED BASED ON COUNCIL'S VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP.
IN APRIL, WE BEGIN THE FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST AND KEY ASSUMPTIONS FOR THE CITY'S MAIN FUND, WHICH IS THE GENERAL FUND.
IN MAY, WE'LL DO THE SAME FOR THE UTILITY FUNDS WATER FUND WASTEWATER S STORM DRAIN.
IN JUNE, WE'LL COVER THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM AND THE BUDGET FOR THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR.
IN JULY, THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTS THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE AUGUST 1ST.
IN AUGUST, WE DO THE FIRST SET OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE READING OF BUDGET ORDINANCE, THE READING OF PROPERTY TAX RATES.
AND IN SEPTEMBER WE DO THE SECOND READING OF THE SAME.
THIS IS FROM FEBRUARY TO SEPTEMBER RATHER THAN FROM MID-JUNE
SO WE'LL HAVE MORE TIME FOR DISCUSSION, MORE FOCUS DISCUSSIONS, MORE ACCOUNTABILITY, MORE TRANSPARENCY.
AND SPEAKING OF COUNCIL'S VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP, STAFF IS REQUESTING FEEDBACK FROM YOU TONIGHT.
OUR PLAN DATES FOR THE 2024 CITY COUNCIL'S VISIONING AND PLANNING WORKSHOP IS ON FEBRUARY 9TH, 10TH, AND 11TH, WHICH IS FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.
I JUST GOT THROUGH SAYING THAT WE WON'T BE DOING ANYTHING ON WEEKENDS, BUT I THINK THIS CALENDAR WORKS OUT WELL FOR, FOR, FOR YOUR CALENDARS, INDIVIDUAL CALENDARS.
WE HAVE RETAINED THE SERVICES OF A PROFESSIONAL FACILITATOR TO HELP US THROUGH THESE WORK SESSIONS.
THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE FACILITATOR IS 25,000.
OTHER COSTS WILL DEPEND ON LOCATION AND NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS, PARTICIPANTS, PARTICIPANTS IN THIS WORKSHOP.
SO TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF CITY MANAGER AND CITY MANAGER'S TEAM, I'M REQUESTING COUNCIL'S DIRECTION FOR SELECTING A LOCATION.
AND HERE ARE THE FOUR CHOICES.
HYATT REGENCY, LOST PINES RESORT, LOS PINES, TEXAS, OR BASTROP.
JW MARRIOTT, SAN ANTONIO HILL COUNTRY RESORT IN SAN ANTONIO, OMNI LA MANION DEL RIO RIVER ROCK IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND THE LAST ONE, IF COUNCIL HAS ANY OTHER SPECIFIC LO LOCATION THAT YOU WANT STAFF TO CONSIDER.
SO I'M GONNA PAUSE THERE AND, AND SEE WHAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO ON THE LOCATIONS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THE LOCATIONS? MAYOR PROTO, IF WE'RE GONNA DO ONE, UM, I WOULD, IF WE WERE TO SELECT A LOST PINES, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE MY FOURTH WORKSHOP.
AND, AND AS MUCH AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, WHEN WE GO TO THESE THINGS, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND FOCUS ON WORK.
UH, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CLOSE BY TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT TRAVEL, UH, HOURS OF TRAVEL, UH, OR HAVING TO GO FIND PARKING SOMEWHERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THAT.
SO I, I'D LIKE TO FIND A LOCATION.
I WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST ELECTION WOULD BE THAT, WHERE WE COULD, UH, REALLY FOCUS ON THE, THE WORK AT HAND.
AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HOW WE'RE STARTING EARLY.
'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE ALWAYS PUSHED BACK MAY, WE'VE DONE APRIL BEFORE.
UH, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN, UH, PROPONENT FOR MAKING, GETTING IT DONE WITHIN THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS TO WHERE WE COULD START TALKING BUDGET SO THAT I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, GETTING IT DONE EARLY SO WE COULD SEE WHERE EVERYTHING'S THAT I, WHERE WE CAN START MAKING GOALS WITH DEADLINES.
I, I'M EXCITED FOR THESE CHANGES.
I THINK TRYING TO DRAW OUT THE PROCESS AND ALLOWING US SOME TIME TO BREATHE SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY COLORED BY BUDGET TALK FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MONTHS.
I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A FRESH SET OF EYES EVERY, EVERY ONCE
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IN A WHILE THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.SO I, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A GOOD THING.
THANK YOU BRIAN AND, AND PERVE FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
AND AS FAR AS THE LOCATION GOES, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH LOST PINES.
I'M REALLY GOOD WITH ANY OF 'EM.
IT'S SO I CAN BE AMENABLE TO WHAT THE REST OF THE GROUP WANTS TO DO HERE.
CUSTOMER HARRIS AND I GOT RIZZO NEXT.
UM, YES, I THINK LOST PINES WOULD BE OUR BEST BET HERE BECAUSE, UM, NUMBER ONE, IT'S VERY CLOSE AND I'M REALLY ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT PUBLIC ACCESS WHEN WE GO OFF SITE.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S AN EASY DRIVE OVER TO THE EAST.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DRIVE, RELAXING, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR US AND FOR THE PUBLIC CUSTOMER, RIZZO.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CHANGES.
UH, LOOK, HONESTLY, I WAS, I, I KIND OF LIKED THE WAY THE OLD PROCESS WORKED, WHERE WE WERE, UH, GETTING TOGETHER, STAFF WOULD COME, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WOULD COME OUT, LAY OUT THEIR PLAN, AND THEIR ASK, UH, COUNCIL WOULD SIT BACK AND, AND LISTEN TO 'EM, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE NEXT, UH, MEETING WOULD, UH, BREAK DOWN SOME OF THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND PRIORITIZE EVERYTHING.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT I SAW IN THIS YEAR'S, BUT, UH, BUDGET SESSION SHOWED US THAT THERE WAS A SYSTEM THAT WAS NOT WORKING PROPERLY, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE, UH, TAKING A LOT OF THE TIME IN THE FIRST MEETING WHEN, UH, IT, IT REALLY LAGGED ON.
AND SO IT SHOWED THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE, UH, GONNA TRY TO FIX THIS PROCESS.
MAKING IT LONGER'S GONNA BE GREAT.
GETTING MORE PUBLIC INPUT IS SOMETHING I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
AND, UH, I'M GOOD WITH ANY LOCATION WE'RE GOING TO.
AND, UH, WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
APPRECIATE THE TIME AND, UM, I DON'T WANNA OVER PROMISE IT'S STILL NOT GONNA BE EASY.
IT'S A LOT OF TIME IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, BUT, UH, WE THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY USE YOUR TIME VALUABLY THROUGH THE PROCESS.
WELL, I'M SURE YOU APPRECIATE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HEAD START THAN YOU DID LAST YEAR.
SO IT'S TOUGH TO START AT THE END OF
LOOKING FORWARD TO HONESTLY SEEING, SEEING YOUR, YOUR HANDIWORK OVER THE ENTIRE PROCESS THIS TIME.
I THINK IT'LL BE, I THINK IT'LL WORK WELL, SO.
ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
[VII. Consent Agenda]
GONNA MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.WE NEED TO, UH, PULL AND, UH, AND POSTPONE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, PULL AND ADDRESS INDIVIDUALLY OR QUESTIONS ON CONSENT? 19 AND 20.
WE'RE POST 2024 YOU SAID, OR? YEAH, WE'RE GONNA PULL, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON IT.
ANY OTHER ITEMS? NUMBER 12, JUST FOR DISCUSSION, JUST FOR CLARITY.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.
AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 11, 13 THROUGH 18, 21 THROUGH 23 AND 25.
ALRIGHT, MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
UH, AGAIN, THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS ARE AGENDA ITEMS 1113 THROUGH 18, 21 THROUGH 23 AND 25.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
ITEM NUMBER, DO YOU WANNA BRING UP 1920 TOGETHER? YES.
APPROVED TASK ORDER NUMBER FOUR TO AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $79,660 59 CENTS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES RELATED TO BB ROAD WEST PROJECT AND APPROVED TASK ORDER NUMBER FIVE TO AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 2 0 1 8 3,100 FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES RELATED TO BB ROAD EAST PROJECT.
MS. PARSLEY, I, I WANTED TO ASK JOE, SO I KNOW WE HAVE ITEMS 19 AND 20, AND THEY ARE BOTH REQUESTING HIM, UH, TASK ORDERS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES RELATING TO THE BB ROAD.
ONE IS FOR WEST PROJECT, THE OTHER ONE IS FOR EAST.
UM, ON MARCH 7TH, I THOUGHT WE HAD APPROVED AN AMOUNT THAT INCLUDED ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES TASK ORDER NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE.
ONE WAS FOR 436,000, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS FOR 788,000.
IT SAYS IN THERE TO INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.
SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M JOE ALPO.
I WORK FOR KERES AND ASSOCIATES, AND I AM MANAGING
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THE ROAD ROBIN PROGRAM ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.THIS, SO THIS IS A SECOND LEVEL COUNCIL MEMBER OF, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
SO, UH, LIKE CULTURAL RESOURCES, A LOT OF TIMES THEY DO A FIRST CUT, THEY DO SOME ANALYSIS, AND THEN BASED ON WHAT THEY FIND, OR IN THE CASES OF LIKE CULTURAL RESOURCES, THE TEXAS HISTORIC, UH, HISTORICAL COMMISSIONER ASKED THEM TO GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.
SO THIS IS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, SORT OF A SECOND LEVEL OR A SECOND CUT THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED THE FIRST TIME.
TH THIS HAPPENS VERY OFTEN WITH, UH, SCHEMATIC CONTRACTS AND WITH DESIGN CONTRACTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND CULTURAL RESOURCES ANALYSIS, WE DO, UH, A FIRST LEVEL OF WORK.
THE ENGINEERS GO OUT, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT COLLECT, UH, THIS INFORMATION THAT SUPPORT THE DESIGN, ENGINEERS GO OUT, THEY DO THEIR BACKGROUND RESEARCH, AND SOMETIMES THEY DETERMINE THAT THEY HAVE TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.
SO THIS IS, UH, IN ADDITION TO, IT'S NOT, INSTEAD OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING, DO YOU MIND EXPLAINING TO ME WHY DO WE, BECAUSE I'M IGNORANT ON ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY ONE IS GONNA BRING ME, AND WHY DO WE NEED TO DO A SECOND ONE? LIKE, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE BENEFIT? I MIGHT BE IN THE, I MIGHT BE IN THE, IN THE SAME PILE AS YOU.
UH, I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO THAT DEEP.
SO IN THIS CASE FOR, LET ME, UM, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, THE, IN THIS CASE, IT WAS MOSTLY RELATED TO CULTURAL RESOURCES.
SO THE STATE, UH, TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION REQUIRED IS REQUIRING, UM, AN ADDITIONAL SURVEY THAT WAS NOT ORIGINALLY SCOPED.
SO, SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, DO THEY HAVE THAT POWER TO ASK FOR THAT ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICE, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION FOR ROAD? WELL, THIS GETS GROUPED UNDER ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, IT INCLUDES LIKE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, BUT ALSO LIKE CULTURAL AND ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCES.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ONE OF THE CASES WAS IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE CARAWAY PARCEL, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE WET AREAS, THE THC FOCUSED IN ON THAT.
WHEN THE DESIGN ENGINEERS SUBMITTED THEIR REPORT AND APPLICATION, AND THEY SAID, OKAY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY, RIGHT, UM, A LOT OF EARLY SETTLERS WOULD SETTLE UNDER THE, THE WATER AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WERE NO CULTURAL RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, PRESENT.
SO YOU DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL YOU TELL THE THC WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEN THEY LOOK AT WHAT THEY NEED TO LOOK BACK AT AND THEY COME BACK AND THEY TELL YOU, YOU NEED TO DO MORE WORK.
WELL, THEY DON'T PAY FOR THEM THEMSELVES,
IF THEY FIND SOMETHING, THEN THEY'LL HAVE US DO MORE DIGGING FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UH, BUT THAT'S THE REASONS FOR THE STUDIES IS ONCE YOU GET CLEARANCE FROM THE THC, THEN YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ACTUAL PROJECT.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL ON.
WE, WE DON'T, UH, AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO THE WORK TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS.
AND, AND THE OTHER PART OF THIS WAS MORE IN ENVIRONMENTAL.
SO WHEN THEY DO THE RESEARCH, THEY IDENTIFY AREAS OF CONCERN FOR, UM, JUST OO OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS.
AND SO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO GO BACK AND, AND DIG
MM-HMM,
WELL, IT'S ALSO CORRECT, IT'S NATURAL STUFF AND IT, AND IT COULD BE STUFF THAT MAN PUT THERE, RIGHT? SO THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE CAME BACK A FEW MONTHS AGO FOR A DIFFERENT PROJECT AND ASKED FOR 20 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THIS IS THE CULTURAL AND IT'S ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
AND THAT GETS GROUPED UNDER THE PHRASE ENVIRONMENTAL.
I WILL SAY THAT JUST DOING THESE PROJECTS IN OTHER PLACES, SOMETIMES YOU FIND THINGS AND UH, THAT, THAT CAN REALLY DELAY YOU.
I KNOW THERE WAS A MAJOR FREEWAY PROJECT IN THE DA DALLAS AREA WHERE THEY ACTUALLY FOUND SOME GRAVE SITES OF SOME EARLY SETTLERS, AND IT DELAYED IT FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME.
WE'RE HOPING WE DON'T FIND ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THAT WORK TO, TO DOUBLE CHECK.
I JUST, AND I UNDERSTAND, I JUST LIKE WHEN WE APPROVE THE ONE IN MARCH SEVEN, IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GONNA GET A 3D MODELING, SURVEYING, AND MAPPING THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE.
SO NOW WE'RE JUST LIKE ADDING TO THAT AFTER BASICALLY WE GOT TOLD YOU WILL GET CLEARANCE AFTER THIS ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
WELL, THEY WERE, THEY'RE DOING THE WORK TOWARD THE CLEARANCE.
BUT AGAIN, IT, IT, IT, IT GOES IN ITERATIONS.
AND IT, AND IT, IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT FOR ONE OR BOTH OF THESE, THEY WILL FIND OTHER THINGS THAT MAY REQUIRE MORE
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ANALYSIS OR EVEN MITIGATION.BUT, BUT WHENEVER YOU'RE DEALING, ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT JUST GREENFIELD PROJECTS, IT'S ALSO PROJECTS ON EXISTING ROADS.
YOU KNOW, UNTIL YOU BEGIN TO DO THE ANALYSIS AND EVEN THROUGH CONSTRUCTION, YOU CAN DO ALL THE ANALYSIS IN THE WORLD AND YOU GO TO CONSTRUCTION AND YOU FIND SOMETHING UNEXPECTED THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND MITIGATED.
WHAT MR. LANGLEY SAID IS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS TRUE, UM, WHAT HE WAS GETTING AT IS YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION.
YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS NOW AND GO TO CONSTRUCTION AND FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS A CULTURAL RESOURCE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE ADDRESSED.
THAT'S WHY THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION MAKES US DO IT NOW.
BUT WHAT I DON'T THINK THE OTHER THING YOU WANT US TO DO IS TO BUILD ALL THIS THEN IN AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SCOPE AND HAVE MONEY SITTING THERE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED.
THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO NOTE IS THAT THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY THAT WAS BUILT IN THE PROJECT.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT MONEY BE MOVED FROM THE CONTINGENCY AND TO THE DESIGN CONSULTANT'S BUDGET.
SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS AND PROCEED WITH DESIGN.
OKAY, SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT.
SOMETIMES OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON THESE THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IF WE START DIGGING NEXT THING, YOU KNOW, WE GET A SPRING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, A NATURAL SPRING, THEN THAT COULD CAUSE SOME ISSUES THERE.
AND I THINK, DIDN'T WE RUN ACROSS THAT WITH BURLESON WHEN WE WERE REDOING THAT EARLIER WHEN WE WERE DOING CONSTRUCTION, THEN THEY FOUND OUT THERE WAS AN OLD PIPE THAT WAS UNDERNEATH, AND THEN THEY HAD TO, THEY DIDN'T DO THE SURVEY.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AGAIN, IN THIS PART OF KYLE, THERE'S A LOT OF OLD FARMLAND THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO YOU'VE GOT PIPES AND, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE.
SO, UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THAT, IT IS WHEN WE'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE THESE GONNA BE AN ONGOING ISSUE WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO DO SOME OF THE OTHER ROADS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE, EAST SIDE, OR WEST SIDE, OR, OR ARE WE GONNA BE HAVING THESE KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES BEING BROUGHT BACK FOR STAGE COATS OR FOR MARKETPLACE OR SOME OF THE OTHER ROADS THAT WE, UH, THAT WE HAD PASSED ON THE BOND? IT, IT, IT, IT COULD VERY WELL BE, UH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN WE WERE HERE, BUT WE CAME FOR WINDY HILL AND IT WAS THE SAME THING.
UH, THE DESIGN ENGINEERS WENT AND DID THEIR, UH, BASELINE RESEARCH.
THEY DID THEIR DESKTOP RESEARCH.
THEY SUBMITTED THEIR, UH, MATERIALS TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION LOOKED WHAT THE DI LOOKED AT, WHAT THE DESIGN ENGINEERS PRODUCED, AND LOOKED AT THEIR OWN RECORDS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND THINGS THAT THEY HAD.
AND THEY CAME BACK AND THEY SAID, YOU NEED TO GO DO, UH, A MORE PHYSICAL SURVEY.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP HERE AND TELL YOU THAT THIS MAY NOT COME UP AGAIN, OR THIS WON'T COME UP AGAIN, BUT UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE DESIGN.
AND THEY WE'RE ALL GOING AT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SPEEDS.
WE WON'T KNOW IF ANY ADDITIONAL STUDIES LIKE THIS ARE GONNA BE DONE.
SO IT, IT IS, IT IS, UM, LIKELY IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT'LL COME UP AGAIN.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH, UM, THEIR SCOPES AND THEIR FEES AND, AND WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE REASONABLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
IF WE WANT THE DESIGN TO PROCEED, WE NEED, THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO AUTHORIZE THIS, THESE FUNDS SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PROVIDE M 19 AND 22ND.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 19 AND 20.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
I'M SORRY IF I MISSED THIS BEFORE.
UH, DO YOU ALL USE THE SAME FIRM FOR THESE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES? NN NO.
UM, THE DESIGN ENGINEERS PUT TOGETHER THEIR OWN TEAM.
AND IF THEY, THEY WIND UP USING THE SAME FIRM, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BY, BY COINCIDENCE.
THEY, THEY HAVE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE DATA.
AND SO IT'S UP TO THEM TO PICK THE FIRM THEY'RE MOST COMFORTABLE WORKING WITH.
IS IT AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT? THIS IS AMERICAN STRUCTURE.
AND JUST BECAUSE YOU ASKED, I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW WHO THEIR, THEIR SUB IS FOR THIS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A DESIGN, I'M SORRY, AN ENVIRONMENTAL FIRM THAT WILL MAKE SURE THEY HELPED US MAKE SURE THE SCOPE IS APPROPRIATE AND THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE DATA THAT GETS PRODUCED IS APPROPRIATE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM
[VIII. Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
12.THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE MEMORANDUMS UNDER OF AGREEMENT AND ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO, UH, EFFECTUATE AND FINALIZE PURCHASE OF PARCELS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR FROM THE QUAIL RIDGE SUBDIVISION FOR THE GO FORTH ROAD PROJECTS ON TERMS TO DISCUSSING EXECUTIVE SESSION, SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND
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APPROVAL OF THE FORM OF THOSE DOCUMENTS BY THE CITY ATTORNEY MAYOR PRO.THIS, UH, SHOULDN'T LAST LONG, BUT, UH, THANK YOU AMBER, FOR COMING UP.
COULD YOU GIVE US JUST A, A BRIEF UPDATE, UH, 'CAUSE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE BACKUP MATERIAL OR, UH, SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING ONLINE TO GIVE US KIND OF AN UPDATE AS FAR AS WHERE WE'RE AT ON THOSE PARCELS? 'CAUSE IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW MAYBE SOME OF THE SPECIFIC DETAILS THAT'S IN THE BACK OF MATERIAL, LET'S SAY WITH SLIDE NUMBER THREE.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION BRIEFLY? IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND? YES, SIR.
THAT WAY FOR THE, THAT WAY FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE FOLLOWING ALONG, AND I KNOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE ON THE CONTROVERSIAL SIDE, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN PRESENT IT TO 'EM TO SEE WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, AMB SCHS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS ABOUT THE RELOCATION AND ACQUISITION PACKAGES, PARCELS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR FOR THE QUAIL RIDGE, UH, PROPERTY RELOCATION AND ACQUISITION PROJECT.
UM, JUST THE BACKGROUNDS IN MAY.
UH, WE WERE DIRECTED TO PROCEED WITH, UH, ACQUIRING THE PROPERTIES, UM, SO WE COULD BUILD SOUTH GO FORTH ROAD.
UH, IN NOVEMBER, UM, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED OFFER AMOUNTS TO START AT $1.7 MILLION FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE SIX PARCELS AND ATTENDANT RELOCATION PACKAGES, UM, STATESIDE RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THE CITY'S, UH, ACQUISITION AGENT ACTING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY PRESENTED THE APPROVED OFFER AMOUNTS AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF PARCELS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR HAVE ACCEPTED THE OFFERS AND SIGNED MEMORANDUMS OF AGREEMENT.
UH, PARCEL TWO IS 1 0 2 QUAIL RIDGE ROAD.
IT'S AN IMPACTED OWNER RESIDENT.
UH, THE DISPLACEMENT PROPERTY IS 1,440 SQUARE FEET, EIGHT ROOMS, THREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATHROOM MOBILE HOME ON A 0.45 ACRE LOT.
UH, SUBJECT VALUE IS 200, OR I'M SORRY, $325,000.
THE DISPLAY C QUALIFIES FOR REPLACEMENT HOUSING SUPPLEMENTS TO INCLUDE REASONABLE AND NECESSARY A DA MODIFICATIONS, MORTGAGE INTEREST, DIFFERENTIAL PAYMENT, REIMBURSEMENT OF INCIDENTAL EXPENSES, AND MOVE COSTS.
SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF A COMPARABLE HOME AND A COMPARABLE HOME WAS 330, UH, $9,900, UM, MINUS THE 325,000 SUBJECT VALUE.
UM, $14,900 IS THEIR MAXIMUM REPLACEMENT HOUSING PAYMENTS AND STATESIDE IS HERE.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THIS IS CALCULATED, UM, INCIDENTAL EXPENSES AND MOVE ESTIMATES, UM, INCIDENTALS ARE AT 5,500 COMMERCIAL MOVE AT 6,900.
UH, PLUS THE REPLACEMENT HOUSING SUPPLEMENT THAT WE TALKED TO IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE IS 14,900.
APPRAISED VALUE 325,080 DA MODIFICATIONS, 40,000.
SO THE TOTAL ESTIMATE TO ACQUIRE AND RELOCATE IS $392,390 ONTO PARCEL THREE.
UH, IT'S AN IMPACTED TENANT, RESIDENT AND LANDLORD.
THE DISPLACEMENT PROPERTY IS 1300 SQUARE FEET, EIGHT ROOM THREE, BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM, MOBILE, HOME ON 0.45 ACRES.
THE TENANT QUALIFIES FOR REPLACEMENT HOUSING PAYMENT AND MOVE COSTS.
THE LANDLORD QUALIFIES FOR REESTABLISHMENT EXPERIENCE, EXPENSES, SEARCHING EXPENSES, AND MOVE COSTS.
THE SUPPLEMENTAL CALCULATION AGAINST THIS IS THE, THE COMPARABLE HOME, UM, COMPARABLE FOR THIS IS FIRST FOR THE RENT, $2,421, UM, MINUS THE 30% INCOME.
UH, A A $1,157 EQUALS $1,263 MONTHLY NEED.
AND THEN WE TAKE THAT TIMES 42 MONTHS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR.
UM, SO THEY CAN GET THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO GO FORWARD FOR 42 MONTHS.
IT, UH, PENCILS OUT TO $53,000 FOR THEIR MAXIMUM RENTAL ASSISTANCE, LANDLORD BENEFITS AND MOVE ESTIMATE, UM, THE LANDLORD BENEFITS ARE AT $27,500.
COMMERCIAL MOVE AT 7,500, REPLACEMENT HOUSING AT 53,000, AND THE APPRAISED VALUE AT 285,000.
SO TOTAL ESTIMATE TO ACQUIRE AND RELOCATE IS $373,130 AND 54 CENTS.
PARCEL FOUR IS 200 QUAIL RIDGE ROAD, IMPACTER OWNER, RESIDENT DISPLACEMENT PROPERTY IS 1100 SQUARE FEET.
EIGHT ROOM THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH ON 0.45 ACRES.
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VALUE IS 235,000.THE DISPLACING QUALIFIES FOR REPLACEMENT HOUSING, SUPPLEMENT REIMBURSEMENT OF INCIDENTAL EXPENSES AND MOVE COSTS.
SUPPLEMENTAL CALCULATION, THE COMPARABLE HOME IS $305,000, UM, MINUS, UH, THE APPRAISED VALUE OF 235,000.
AND SO THE SUBJECT VALUE IS 75,000.
MAXIMUM REPLACEMENT HOUSING PAYMENT.
INCIDENTAL EXPENSES ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 4,000.
REPLACEMENT HOUSING SUPPLEMENT AT 70,000.
TOTAL ESTIMATE TO ACQUIRE AND RELOCATE IS $316,488.
RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, AUTHOR AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE MEMORANDUMS OF AGREEMENT AND ALL OTHER DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE AND FINALIZE THE PURCHASE OF PARCELS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR FROM THE QUAIL RIDGE SUBDIVISION FOR THE GO FORTH ROAD PROJECT ON TERMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE FORM OF THOSE DOCUMENTS BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
OPTIONS BEFORE YOU ARE TO APPROVE AS RECOMMENDED OR DENY ANY QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE STATE SIDE HERE, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE CITY'S, UH, LEGAL COUNSEL FOR PROPERTY ACQUISITION, UH, KENT.
SICK, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, SO HOW MANY MORE PARCELS DO WE, ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT? WE HAVE THREE PARCELS IN TOTAL.
PARCEL ONE IS JUST OWNED BY ONE PERSON.
AND THEN THE PARCELS FIVE AND SIX ARE JUST OWNED BY ONE PARCEL.
IT'S TWO PARCELS, ONE STRUCTURE.
AND EVERYTHING, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE DEALT WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH IN, I GUESS, IN AGREEMENT TO WHAT THE RESOLUTION SHOWS ON HERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SAY THANK YOU, AMBER, FOR MAKING THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE IT REALLY MAKE, AND THANK YOU MAYOR PATAM FOR PULLING IT OUT BECAUSE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT IS BEING DONE, UM, TO CLEAR SOME OF THOSE MISCONCEPTIONS AND, UM, THAT ARE GOING AROUND.
SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 12.
SECONDED BY COUNCILOR HEISER THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[26. Public Hearing Concerning the Creation of Reinvestment Zone Number Six (TIRZ #6), Pursuant to the Provisions of Chapter 311 of the Texas Tax Code. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright]
IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26.THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE CREATION OF REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER SIX, UH, PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER THREE 11 OF THE TEXAS TAX CODE.
MS. LAB, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE PUBLIC HEARING? I DO NOT.
WE JUST WAITING FOR THE NEXT ONE.
IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, UH, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
[27. (First and Final Reading) Consideration and Approval of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas, Designating a Contiguous Geographic Area within the Corporate Limits of the City as a Reinvestment Zone Pursuant to Chapter 311 of the Texas Tax Code, to be known as Reinvestment Zone Number Six, City of Kyle; Describing the Boundaries of the Zone; Creating a Board of Directors for the Zone; Establishing a Tax Increment Fund for the Zone; Containing findings related to the Creation of the Zone; Providing a Date for the Termination of the Zone; Providing that the Zone take effect immediately upon passage of the Ordinance; Providing a Severability Clause; and Providing an Effective Date. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27, FIRST AND FINAL READING, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, DESIGNATING A CONTINUOUS GEOGRAPHIC AREA WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY AS A REINVESTMENT ZONE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER THREE 11 OF THE TEXAS TAX CODE, MS. LOBBY.OKAY, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHANIE BU WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT BOND COUNCIL FOR THE CITY.
AND APOLOGIES, THERE WAS, UH, I THINK A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN TERRA FIVE AND SIX.
SO WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROVIDED AS BACKUP FOR THIS WAS TURFS FIVE, BUT WE HAVE REPLACED IT.
SO YOU DO HAVE THE PRESENTATION FOR TURF SIX IN ALL PACKETS NOW.
SO OUR OVERVIEW FOR TAX INCREMENT ZONE NUMBER SIX, THE CITY'S DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN HAS IDENTIFIED MULTIPLE PARCELS, BOTH DOWNTOWN AND IMMEDIATELY EAST OF I 35.
ALONG I, UH, ALONG EAST FARM, THE MARKET ROAD ONE 50, WHICH IS PRIME FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
THE CREATION OF A TOURS WITH BOTH CITY AND COUNTY PARTICIPATION WILL ALLOW REVENUES TO BE GENERATED, WHICH WOULD HELP FINANCE DESIGNATED PROJECTS TO HELP WITH THE REINVESTMENT WITHIN THIS ZONE.
POSSIBLE PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN INCLUDE STREETS PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, SIDEWALK AND TRAILS, LINEAR PARKS, OFFICE BUILDINGS, LAND FOR FLOODPLAINS, UM, MANAGEMENT SERVICES RELATED TO THESE AFOREMENTIONED PROJECTS, AND THE ABILITY TO DO CHAPTER THREE 80 INCENTIVES FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE ZONE.
THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION CONTAINS A BOUNDARY MAP.
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PARCELS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR INCLUSION IN THE TOURS, AND IT COMPRISES 229 ACRES.CURRENT STEPS FOR TONIGHT, THE COUNTY OR THE CITY HAS CONDUCTED A PUBLIC HEARING.
THE PUBLIC HEARING'S BEEN CONCLUDED.
AT THIS TIME, THE CITY CAN CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE TO CREATE THE TOURS IF APPROVED.
THE TOUR'S ORDINANCE WILL ALSO APPOINT THE INITIAL TOUR BOARD AND APPROVE A PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN RELATED TO THAT TOUR.
FOR NEXT STEPS, AND THIS IS GONNA BE SLIGHTLY MODIFIED, WE DID GO TO HAYES COUNTY TODAY FOR A PRESENTATION RELATED TO THIS TOUR, SIX RELATED OR RELATED TO THEIR PARTICIPATION IN TOUR SIX, WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNTY RELATED TO PARTICIPATION, AND THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING.
THEY HAVE ASKED FOR SOME MODIFICATIONS TO SOME OF THE PROJECTS WITHIN THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO DO TONIGHT IS TO CREATE THE CHORES SO THAT WE CAN SET THE BASE YEAR FOR 2023.
WE'LL APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN AS PRESENTED IN COUNCIL PACKETS.
AND JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR, WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH AN AMENDED PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS FOR THE COUNTY.
AND THEN AFTER WE GET A COMPLETE KIND OF FINALIZED LIST OF PROJECTS AND PROJECT COSTS, THEN WE WOULD COME BACK WITH A FINAL PLAN AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED THE NEEDS AND WANTS OF BOTH PARTICIPATING ENTITIES WITHIN THIS ZONE.
ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I'LL JUST CON UH, RESTATE MAYBE FROM THE 30,000 FOOT VIEW WHAT THE DOWNTOWN TOURS IS ALL ABOUT.
SO THE, THE, THE EVERY TOURS THAT WE CREATE HAS, HAS A DIFFERENT PURPOSE TO IT.
UH, DOWN THE DOWNTOWN TOURS THAT WE'RE CREATING IS SI MOST SIMILAR TO TOURS TWO, WHICH IS OVER OUR, UH, PLUM CREEK AREA.
UH, IT DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC PROJECT IN MIND TO FUND.
UH, THE CREATION OF THIS PARTICULAR TOURS IS TAKING, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE EAST OF I 35 ON ONE 50, AS WELL AS THE DOWNTOWN STRETCH, AND PUTTING IT INTO A SPECIAL DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO CAPTURE THE PROPERTY TAXES THERE, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY TAXES APP PORTION.
UH, AND THOSE DOLLARS CAN GET REINVESTED.
SO IT'S PART, UH, THIS DOWNTOWN TERMS IS PART OF A LARGER, BROADER PLAN TO TRY TO ATTRACT INVESTMENT AND, UH, OF, UH, CITY AND COUNTY RESOURCES AS WELL AS PRIVATE RESOURCES INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
I DO THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN, JUST AS WE'VE SEEN, UH, THE TSS BE BENEFIC TS NUMBER TWO, BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO DEPLOY RECE UH, RESOURCES TO BRING ABOUT, UH, REALLY IMPORTANT PARK AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT, THAT, UH, DRIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS TOURS, UH, IS ALL ABOUT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN HEISER? YEAH.
REDEVELOPING DOWNTOWN IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.
AND DOING THINGS LIKE THIS, UH, I BELIEVE PUT US IN THE BEST POSSIBLE POSITION FOR SUCCESS.
AND I JUST WANNA THANK THE COUNTY FOR BEING GREAT PARTNERS, UH, SPECIFICALLY CALLING OUT COMMISSIONERS COHEN AND INGLESBY.
UH, IT'S BEEN, UH, A GREAT YEAR OF COLLABORATION WITH THEM AND, UH, JUST VERY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE CAN HOLD FOR OUR DOWNTOWN.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, MAYOR PROTO? I KNOW, UH, I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM CERTAIN PEOPLE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CHANGING THE DOWNTOWN, WE'RE LOSING, ITS, ITS HISTORIC VALUE AND SO FORTH, BUT WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I THINK A LOT OF THESE, THESE THINGS WE'RE DOING AND TEAMING UP WITH COUNTIES, WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE OF OUR DOWNTOWN.
AND WE, WE'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT, THOSE, THOSE DOLLARS, UH, TO MAKE THESE, THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT, THAT WE NEED.
SO I'M, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.
ANYONE ELSE? MOTIONS? I'M MAYOR.
UH, COUNCIL RIZZO? YEAH, JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS TOUR.
UH, THIS IS ABOUT RE-ENERGIZING OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
BRINGING FAMILIES, UH, BACK TO OUR DOWNTOWN IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
BRINGING, UH, COMMERCE BACK TO OUR DOWNTOWN REMINDS ME OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND GROWING UP IN KYLE.
I, I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS A GREAT INVESTMENT FOR US MOVING FORWARD.
I'VE SEEN SOME CITIES THAT HAVE GONE BACK AND INVESTED IN THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, PUT IN, UH, GREASE TRAPS, ALL KINDS OF, UH, DIFFERENT AMENITIES TO ATTRACT RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES TO THEIR DOWNTOWN.
FOR US TO GO DOWN THIS PATH AND TRY TO REINVEST INTO OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN IS SOMETHING THAT I,
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I'M GLAD TO, TO WITNESS AND TO, IN A WAY, BE A PART OF.AND I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND TAKING THESE STEPS.
I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS AND, UH, I'M, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE OF OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
JUST HAVE A QUESTIONS TO ASK YOU CUSTOMER ZUNIGA.
UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEGAL AND THE, THE, UM, THE REASON WHY THET ARE MADE, THE DESCRIPTIONS SAY FOR AREAS THAT LACK THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE BLIGHTED, THAT HAVE LOW LOW RETAIL OR, OR THEY NEED TO BE MAINTAINED, THAT OUR DOWNTOWN FITS THAT.
OF ALL THE TURS, PROBABLY TURS ONE MAY BE THE EXCEPTION, BUT THIS ONE IS NEEDED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO HELP REVITALIZE IT.
AND I DO WANNA MAKE, UM, CLEAR, I I BELIEVE THERE WAS MISCOMMUNICATION THAT SOME HOMEOWNERS BELIEVED THAT THAT WAS, THIS WOULD RAISE THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
RIGHT? BECAUSE PROPERTY TAXES ARE A SET ASIDE BY TAX RATE, WHICH ARE FACTORED DIFFERENTLY THAN A TURS INCREMENTAL VALUE.
RIGHT? CAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT JUST TO MAKE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR? I CAN TO, TO, TO PEOPLE.
SO, UH, THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS FOR CREATION OF A TUS IS BLIGHTED, UNDERDEVELOPED, OR UNDEVELOPED LAND.
AND THERE'S A BUT FOR THE TEST, A BUT FOR TEST IN THE LAW, BUT FOR CREATION OF THE TOURISTS AND THE REINVESTMENT OF THESE FUNDS, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT OCCUR.
SO FOR EVERY TOURIST THAT THE CITY CREATES, WE ARE SUBJECT TO THAT LEGAL REQUIREMENT, RIGHT? THE AREA HAS TO BE BLIGHTED, UNDERDEVELOPED, OR UNDEVELOPED.
AND, BUT FOR THIS REDEVELOPMENT OR, BUT FOR THE INVESTMENT OF FUNDS, THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT OCCUR.
AND SO EVERY TIME WE CREATE A TERRORIST, WE'RE MEETING THOSE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE TAX INCREMENT IS A PERCENTAGE, AND BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE DISCRETION FOR WHERE THEY SET THAT PERCENTAGE.
AND SO WHAT THEY DO IS THE CITY SETS ITS TAX RATE, AND THAT IS THE TAX RE, THAT'S THE TAX PAYMENT THAT AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER HAS TO PAY ON THEIR HOUSE, IRRESPECTIVE OF A TURS OR NOT.
AND SO IF THERE IS A TUR, THE CITY ELECTS TO CARVE OFF A PORTION OF THOSE TAX REVENUES TO REINVEST DIRECTLY INTO THIS ZONE.
SO FROM A HOMEOWNER'S PERSPECTIVE, A HUNDRED DOLLARS IS A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
IF THERE IS NOT A TOUR, A HUNDRED DOLLARS GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.
IF THERE IS A TOURS, $50 COULD GO TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND, $50 WILL BE REINVE REINVESTED INTO THE TOUR.
FROM THE HOMEOWNER'S PERSPECTIVE, IN BOTH INSTANCES, THEY'RE MAKING THE SAME A HUNDRED DOLLARS PAYMENT TO THE CITY.
UM, JUST TO HEAR FROM, UM, THE BOND COUNCIL OR, UM, THAT THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
UM, I, I JUST, I WASN'T GONNA SAY ANYTHING, BUT I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS OUT IN REGARDS TO THE CREATION OF THESE JURORS AND TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SONY GOT SAID.
IF THERE IS A CHURCH THAT I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF, THIS WILL BE THE ONE BECAUSE REINVESTING TAXES BACK INTO DOWNTOWN IS WHAT IS GOING TO HELP US DO THE WHOLE, UH, RIVER, RIVER VALLEY.
LIKE WE, WE WANT TO MAKE DOWNTOWN PRETTIER, AND THIS WILL BE ONE WAY TO DO IT.
I'D LIKE TO GO AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA NUMBER 27.
SECOND, ALL MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDED BY COUNCILOR HEISER THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[28.
(Second Reading) An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas, amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas code of ordinances, rezoning approximately 32 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services), approximately 67 acres of land from ‘R-3-3’ (Multifamily Apartments 3) and 56 acres of land from ‘W’ (Warehouse) to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development for property located at 3040 Kyle Crossing in Hays County, Texas. (Sheldon-Tanglewood, Ltd - Z-23-0123) ~ Jason Lutz, Senior Planner
The Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to approve the request with staff recommended changes.
Council voted 7 to 0 to approve on first reading on 12/5/2023.
][29. A Resolution Approving a Development Agreement for the Lake Park District Between the City of Kyle, Texas and Sheldon-Tanglewood, Ltd; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Agreement. ~ Jason Lutz, Senior Planner]
[30. A Resolution Approving a Development Agreement for the St. David’s Hospital District; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Agreement. ~ Jason Lutz, Senior Planner]
[31. A Resolution Approving an Agreement for Donation of Real Property for a 5.291 Acre Tract, More or Less, Located in the John King Survey Section No. 20, Abstract No. 276, Hays County, Texas, for the Marketplace Avenue Extension; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Agreement and Any Other Documents Necessary to Close on the Donation of Real Property. ~ Jason Lutz, Senior Planner]
[32. A Resolution Approving an Agreement for Donation of Real Property for a 2.222 Acre Tract, More or Less, Located in the John King Survey, Abstract No. 276, and the Jesse Day Survey, Abstract No. 159, Hays County, Texas, for the FM 1626 Pump Station Expansion; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Agreement and Any Other Documents Necessary to Close on the Donation of Real Property. ~ Jason Lutz, Senior Planner]
UP WE'RE GONNA BRING UP, UH, AGENDA ITEMS 28 THROUGH 32 TOGETHER.SO IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, I'M GONNA READ THROUGH THESE, UH, AGENDA.
I'M 28 SECOND, READING AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS.
UH, CODE OF ORDINANCES REZONING APPROXIMATELY 32 ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES, APPROXIMATELY 67 ACRES OF LAND FROM R THREE THREE MULTIFAMILY AND 56 ACRES OF LAND FROM WAREHOUSE TO A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 30 40.
UH, KYLE CROSSING IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
AGENDA ITEM 29, A RESOLUTION APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE LAKE PARK DISTRICT BETWEEN THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS AND SHELDON TANGLEWOOD, LTD AUTHORIZING CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 30, A RESOLUTION APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE ST.
DAVID'S HOSPITAL DISTRICT, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 31, A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT FOR DONATION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A 5.291
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ACRE TRACT, MORE OR LESS, LOCATED AT THE, IN THE JOHN KING SURVEY SECTION NUMBER 20, UH, FOR THE MARKETPLACE AVENUE EXTENSION, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.ITEM NUMBER 32, A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT FOR DONATION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR 2.222 ACRE TRACT OF LAND, MORE OR LESS, LOCATED, UH, AT THE FM 1626 PUMP STATION EXPANSION AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THAT DOCUMENT AS WELL.
MR. LUTZ? UH, YES, MAYOR, UH, COUNSEL, GOOD EVENING.
JASON LUTZ, SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, SO YES, UH, THAT WAS A LONG READ, BUT MULTIPLE ITEMS TO GO OVER IN THIS PRESENTATION.
SO AGAIN, I'M GONNA SPEAK QUICKLY AS WE'VE COVERED MOST OF THIS AND KIND OF FOCUS ON THE NEW ITEMS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SO, UH, AGAIN, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING APPROVAL OF TWO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, TWO DONATION AGREEMENTS, AND A REQUEST FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY PLAN UNIT.
DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA ALLOW A MIXED USE SITE TO BE DEVELOPED.
ALSO, UH, ESTABLISH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE, THE PROPER PROJECT, UM, AS WELL AS INCORPORATING SOME VARIANCES TO OUR EXISTING CODE.
IT'S ALSO GONNA ESTABLISH TWO SEPARATE TRACKS, THE HOSPITAL TRACK AND THE LAKE PARK TRACK.
SO SAME AS LAST TIME, I'LL PRESENT KIND OF TRACK BY TRACK.
UH, AGAIN, THE PUD IS ALSO GONNA PROVIDE SECONDARY SET OF DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE HOSPITAL TRACK, SHOULD THE HOSPITAL NOT BE DEVELOPED, BUT THEY'RE ACTIVELY, UH, WORKING TO, UH, TO FINALIZE THOSE AGREEMENTS.
UH, BOTH TRACKS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND AGAIN, I'LL GO OVER EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE.
SO HERE'S THE PROJECT LOCATION.
THIS IS JUST, UH, NORTH OF HEB.
UH, AND THIS IS PROVIDED, UH, ALONG, UH, KYLE CROSSING AND 1626 IS KIND OF THE BOUNDARIES.
THIS IS THIS SUBMARINE PROJECT CONCEPT PLAN.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TWO TRACKS, THE HOSPITAL ON THE PLAN NORTH AND THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SOUTH.
SO WE HAD OUR FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE ON THE FIFTH.
UH, HERE WE ARE FOR THE SECOND READING AND CONSIDERATION OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
THERE'D BE NO FURTHER ACTION AFTER TONIGHT IF EVERYTHING IS APPROVED.
UH, MENTIONED EARLIER, TWO SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, LAKE, PARK AND HOSPITAL.
UM, SO LAKE PARK CONCEPT PLAN IS ONE WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON FIRST.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS THE VERTICAL MIX USE SECTIONS, UH, IN RED AND THE BLUE.
THERE'S NO CHANGES FROM THE LAST, UH, PRESENTATION.
UH, SOME OF THE PROPOSED LAND USES ARE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, VERTICAL MIXED USE.
AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING FOUR RENT OR SALE, SO THERE COULD BE CONDO.
WE HAVE TYPICAL COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE, RESTAURANT, UH, PROHIBITING GAS STATIONS, STANDALONE BANKS.
UH, OTHER GENERAL ITEMS THAT WE PROHIBIT WOULD ALLOW HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER.
AND THEN AGAIN, THERE'LL BE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARKLAND, UH, THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE ON THIS SITE.
UM, UH, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED LAST TIME ABOUT, UH, USES ON THE PROPERTY.
WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT USES FOR THE MIXED USE PART, BUT WE DO HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER OF ROOMS HOTEL APPROXIMATELY 430.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT A LITTLE OVER 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL, UM, APPROXIMATELY 600,000 PLUS OF OFFICE.
AND IN A 1,950 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WOULD BE ON THAT LAKE PARK TRACT.
UM, AGAIN, VARIANCE FOR THE SIGNS, UH, SETBACKS AND REDUCTION OF, UH, LOT SIZES AND STANDARDS.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT VARIANCES FOR HEIGHTS.
SO MAXIMUM 120 AND 14 FOR THE OFFICE TOWERS AND HOTEL.
UH, AND THEN THE I 35 OVERLAY STANDARDS, FOUR STORIES OR LESS SHALL COMPLY.
FIVE STORIES IN UP SHALL BE DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE ATTACHED.
UM, I DO WANNA TOUCH ON IMPERVIOUS COVER A LITTLE BIT.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS.
UH, SO RIGHT NOW THE MAXIMUM IS 85% ACROSS THE SITE.
UM, THAT IS BASED ON AN APPROVED DETENTION STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2017 AND THEN REEVALUATED IN 2020.
THE REEVALUATION ALSO INCLUDED OUR ATLAS 14 CHANGE IN RAINFALL DATA.
UM, SO IT'S ACCOUNTING FOR THE ADDITIONAL WATER.
UM, THE REASON IT IS A NOAA DETENTION STUDY IS BECAUSE RIGHT THERE AT THAT PORTION WHERE THE WATER AND LAKE ARE, THERE IS A DAM THAT DAM ACTS AS A DETENTION POND ITSELF, UM, SLOWING THE WATER DOWN BEFORE IT GOES DOWNSTREAM.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S SOME CONCERNS, BUT THERE ARE ALSO THE APPLICANT'S GONNA BE WORKING ON AN ADDITIONAL CLR OR LMER TO FURTHER DEFINE THAT CHANNEL AS PART OF OUR PARKLAND DONATION.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER REVIEW FOR THE FLOODPLAIN.
UM, AND THEN AS EACH SIDE IS DEVELOPED, WE'LL BE DOING STORM WATER RUNOFF CALCULATIONS.
UH, ULTIMATELY THEY, THEY CANNOT EXCEED WHAT THE CURRENT FLOWS ARE, SO THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT.
UM, REGARDLESS OF THEIR DETENTION STANDARDS.
AGAIN, DENSITY WILL NOT BE A PER UNIT, BUT BASED ON THE FUNCTION OF SETBACKS AND LUS, UM, NO MINIMUM UNITS, LOT SI UH, SIZES.
UM, SO ALLOWING SHARED PARKING, WE'VE ESTABLISHED, UH, PARKING SPACES FOR THE UNITS, UH, UH, CHANGES IN OUR RESTAURANT PARKING AND HOTEL PARKING, AND THEN REMOVED THE PARKING MAXIMUMS. UM, SO I'M, NOW I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE LAKE PARK TRACT.
UM, THIS IS A 30 YEAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THAT TRACT IS APPROXIMATELY 98 ACRES.
UM, THE, THE BUILDING MATERIALS ARE COVERED IN THAT AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE PUD ZONING STANDARDS.
AND THEN AGAIN, PROHIBITED USES
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ARE INCLUDED, UH, IN THAT.DE UM, HAS INCLUDES LAND PLANS, INCLUDES VI VERTICAL MIXED USE, UH, THAT ESTABLISHES THE REQUIREMENTS FOR WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED AND WHAT, WHAT THE PROCESS IS, IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE OR AMEND THAT.
UH, THE AGREEMENT OUTLINES HOW MANY L LUE ARE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO THE L LUE ARE CURRENTLY BASED ON OUR CURRENT CITY SEWER MODEL AT 665 WILL BE GUARANTEED IMMEDIATELY UPON APPROVAL OF THIS.
UM, THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF 2250 L LUE ALLOWED FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THOUGH, THAT WHAT'S, UH, BEEN MODELED NOW IS WHAT THE CITY WILL, UH, BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IF ON COSTS OR UPGRADES TO THE SYSTEM, ANYTHING OVER THAT, BASED ON THE PACE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WILL BE AT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DEVELOPER THEMSELVES.
UM, THIS AGREEMENT DOES REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER DEDICATE PARKLAND, UH, TO THE CITY AND REQUIRE A PRIVATE PARKLAND TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A, A REQUIREMENT IN THERE THAT THAT'LL BE NEGOTIATED AND DONE WITHIN 36 MONTHS OF ADOPTION OF THIS.
UH, THE PARKLAND MAY CONSIST OF APPROXIMATELY 20 ACRES OF FLOODWAY OF THE LAKE AREA AND THEN UP TO ADDITIONAL 10 ACRES, UH, FOR THE CITY TO PROGRAM AND UTILIZE AS THEY SEE FIT.
UH, AGAIN, ADDITIONAL PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT FEES SHALL BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, SO THEY'RE NOT WAIVING THE PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT FEES AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST CURRENT ONE WE HAVE.
AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA DO A FLOOD STUDY TO KIND OF DETERMINE THAT, BUT THE YELLOW IS THE 20 ACRES THAT'S FLOOD PLAIN.
UM, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE, WHICH COULD BE UTILIZED FOR PROGRAMMING OR CONSTRUCTION OF ADDITIONAL FACILITIES.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALSO REFERENCES A SEPARATE DONATION AGREEMENT THAT IS THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR MARKETPLACE AVENUE EXTENSION.
UM, IT'S APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES.
UH, THIS WILL BE CONSTRUCTION, UH, DONE THROUGH THE CITY'S BOND.
UM, THERE IS A STIPULATION THAT IF THE THE BOND IS OR CONSTRUCTION IS NOT COMPLETED BY A CERTAIN DATE, THAT THE APPLICANT, IF THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT, COULD CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT THEMSELVES.
UH, AND THEN WE, THE CITY WOULD REIMBURSE THEM, UH, 30 DAYS AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AGREEMENT.
THE CITY WILL NEED TO INSTALL FENCING ALONG THE BOUNDARY OF THAT MARKETPLACE AVENUE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF WORK ON OUR DESIGNS AND, UH, THE APPLICANT CAN MAINTAIN THEIR, THEIR RANCHING AND OTHER AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE CLOSING OF THE PROPERTY, THE CITY NEEDS TO WORK WITH THE DONOR.
UM, THERE'S SOME EXISTING DRAINAGE EASEMENTS THAT COME OFF OF MARKETPLACE AND HEB, UH, THEY GO ACROSS THE DEVELOPMENT THEMSELVES.
UM, SO ONCE WE KIND OF DESIGN MARKETPLACE AND KIND OF HANDLE THAT WATER, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE RELEASE THOSE EASEMENTS SO THAT CAN GIVE THEM SOME MORE BUILDABLE AREA, UH, BACK ON THEIR PROJECT.
UH, NOW I'M JUMPING INTO THE HOSPITAL PLAN, AND AGAIN, I'M GONNA FOCUS ON CONCEPT A.
UM, THIS IS THE PLAN THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
UM, YOU CAN SEE LOCATION, PARKING GARAGE, UH, THE HOSPITAL, UH, FUTURE EXPANSION SITES.
THE YELLOW BOUNDARY LINE IS PROPERTY THAT WILL BE GRANTED AN EASEMENT FOR VIBE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS TO OUR WATER TANK SITE.
AND THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IS PRIVATELY MAINTAINED, UH, KIND OF VIBE, NOT NECESSARILY NODE, BUT AN AREA FOR, FOR CITIZENS TO, TO KIND OF GATHER ALONG WITH THE HOSPITAL RESIDENTS OR PATIENTS.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVEN FLOORS MAX.
UM, THIS WOULDN'T BE DONE PHASE ONE.
THIS WOULD BE PHASE MULTIPLE PHASES.
PROC ALMOST 700,000 SQUARE FEET, 550 BEDS.
UM, FOUR OTHER MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS WITH FOUR FLOORS, ABOUT 80,000 SQUARE FEET EACH.
UM, AGAIN, THEY'LL ALLOW SUPPORT USES WITHIN THE HOSPITAL.
HEIGHT ON THIS TRACK'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
AND HELIPAD, AGAIN, 85% COVERAGE.
UM, THIS, SO THIS TRACK'S GONNA BE LOOKED AT TOGETHER AS A WHOLE AS IT DEVELOPS.
SO IMPERVIOUS COVER WILL ALSO INCLUDE, UH, THE MARKETPLACE EXTENSION, VIBE, TRAILS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AND I TOUCH BASE ON, ON THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
UH, B THIS IS THE LAND PLAN SHOULD THE HOSPITAL NOT BE DEVELOPED.
BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS, UH, FINALIZING THAT DEAL THERE.
UH, PROPOSED LAND USES ON THE HOSPITAL, OPTION B WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO LAKE PARK TRACT.
UM, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, THAT'D PROBABLY BE MORE SENIOR LIVING, UH, THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO THAT, THAT PARCEL, UH, VERSUS THE OTHER, THE LAKE PARK.
UH, ALL THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR OPTION B WILL FOLLOW THE ORIGINAL LAKE PARK PUD DOCUMENT STANDARDS.
UM, SO NOW WE'LL GET INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, THERE WAS, UH, ONE CHANGE I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON BEFORE I GET INTO THE SLIDES.
UH, UH, THEY HAD ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR A, UH, VESTING OF FIVE YEARS FOR IMPACT FEES.
THEY HAVE SINCE DELETED THAT SECTION 6.06.
SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY BEST VESTING ON IMPACT FEES.
THEY'LL PAY WHATEVER RATES ARE, UH, IN A COMPLIANCE AT THE TIME.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A 30 YEAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE HOSPITAL TRACKS APPROXIMATELY 50
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ACRES.UH, THERE'S GONNA BE TWO SETS OF DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THAT DA THAT YOU SEE.
UM, THEY ESTABLISH THE SAME BUILDING CRITERIA FOR THE AESTHETICS BUILDING MATERIALS, UM, OUTSIDE OF OUR I 35 OVERLAY INCLUDES THE PROHIBITED USES, UM, THAT, THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO KIND OF RESTRICT, UH, PROVIDES LAND PLANS FOR HOW THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED.
UH, AGAIN, IF THE HOSPITAL FAILS DEVELOPED, THEY'LL, THEY'LL USE THIS PLAN TO THIS DA TO REGULATE THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE AGREEMENT ALSO REQUIRES, UH, FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT THE PARKING GARAGE ONCE THEY REACH 450 BEDS.
UM, SO WE'LL BE MONITORING THAT DURING BUILDING PERMIT ACQUISITION EXPANSIONS.
UM, SO THEIR MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE MET THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THERE MAY BE AN AREA DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKING GARAGE WHERE THEY MAY HAVE TO REDUCE SOME OF THOSE PARKING TO MAKE SURE THE REST OF THE PROPERTY FITS.
UM, BUT STAFF WILL COORDINATE WITH THEM, UH, TO, TO PROVIDE HOPEFULLY A PLAN THAT'S, UH, LEASE EVA FOR THEM, UH, AND THE PATIENTS.
UM, SO THIS AGREEMENT AGAIN, ESTABLISHES THE LUS FOR SEWER SERVICE, UH, ON THE PROPERTY.
IT'S BASED, AGAIN, ON THE CURRENT MODEL RIGHT NOW.
THEY'LL BE GUARANTEED 500 LU FROM DAY ONE, UH, AND THEN ANOTHER 367 WILL BE AVAILABLE 2036.
AGAIN, ANYTHING OVER THE CURRENT LUE MODEL, UM, WILL BE AT THE COST OF THE DEVELOPER TO INSTALL AND CONSTRUCT.
UM, UH, THE AGREEMENT REQUIRES THE DEVELOPER TO DEDICATE THE LAND EASEMENT FOR THE VIBE TRAIL.
IT'S, UH, EMERGENCY ACCESS TO THIS TANK.
UM, AND THE TRAIL ITSELF, ADDITIONAL PARK LAND AND OPEN SPACES MAY BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY, UH, VIA EASEMENT.
UM, AND THOSE WILL BE DONE AT A LATER DATE.
AGAIN, THAT'LL BE NEGOTIATED WITHIN THAT 36 MONTH TIMEFRAME FOR THE LAKE PARK TRACT LAND USE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, THE VIBE, TRAIL LOCATION.
UH, THE DA IS ALSO GONNA REFERENCE THE SEPARATE DONATION AGREEMENT FOR THE WATER TANK SITE.
UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 2.2 ACRES, UH, THAT'LL ALLOW THE CITY TO EXPAND ITS WATER CAPACITY AS THE CITY GROWS.
UH, THE CITY'S ALSO GONNA CONSTRUCT AND MAINTAIN A 12 FOOT WALL AROUND THIS TANK SITE, UM, THAT IS TO, UH, HELP SHIELD THAT PROPERTY FROM FLYING TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE HOSPITAL.
UH, IF THE CITY DOES NOT COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE WALL, AGAIN, THE DEVELOPER RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CONSTRUCT THAT AT THEIR EXPENSE AND BE REIMBURSED BY THE CITY.
UM, CLOSING OF THE CON OF THE PROPERTY ON THIS AGREEMENT, THOUGH, WILL NOT TAKE PLACE UNTIL THESE CONDITIONS ARE MET.
UM, THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE ROADWAY EASEMENT AGREEMENT NEEDS TO BE EXECUTED.
UH, THE GRANTEE AND GRANTOR, UH, ENTERED IN THIS IN 2008.
THIS WAS AN EASEMENT TO PROVIDE ACCESS, UH, FOR THE WATER TANK SITE.
THAT'S THE CURRENT, UH, KIND OF ROAD THAT YOU SEE COMING OFF OF 1626.
UM, BUT WE'RE OBTAINING ALTERNATE ACCESS, UH, CURRENTLY.
UH, SO ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THE EASEMENT WILL BE CONVERTED TO A TEMPORARY EASEMENT AND THEN THAT WILL BE DE UH, TERMINATED DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
UM, THERE ALSO IS AN EXISTING LANDSCAPE EASEMENT AROUND THE EXISTING TANK SITE, BUT SINCE THEY'RE GIVING US AN ADDITIONAL LAND AND THAT AREA IS GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED UPON THAT EASEMENT NEEDS TO BE VACATED AS WELL.
UM, AND SO LET ME KIND OF SHOW YOU THE LOCATIONS.
THE YELLOW HERE IS THE LANDSCAPING EASEMENT TO BE VACATED AROUND THE CURRENT SITE.
UH, AND THEN THE BLUE IS THE EXISTING ACCESS THAT WILL BE VACATED AS WELL.
UM, SO P AND Z AGAIN MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, THIS WAS BASED ON SOME LAST MINUTE NEGOTIATIONS AND CHANGES THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
UM, WE WANTED TO MODIFY SOME LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE TABLE WAS MATCHING THE PUD DOCUMENTS AND THE DA'S.
UM, AND THEN THEY DELETED THE NEXT TWO SECTIONS, UH, 41, 1 39, AND 1 46.
UH, THEY WITHDREW THEIR REQUEST FOR THOSE TWO VARIANCES.
UM, AND THEY ALSO MADE SOME CHANGES TO, UH, THESE EXHIBITS ON THOSE PAGES TO ADD SOME SIGN LANGUAGE, UH, MODIFICATIONS THAT WE HAD MADE, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF IT.
AND THEN STAFF RECOMMENDED DELETING THE FOLLOWING SECTION BECAUSE AGAIN, THE LUS WERE KIND OF DICTATED INTO THE DAS AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY A ZONING, UM, ISSUE.
UH, SO STAFF'S RECOMMEND OR COUNCIL'S OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE APPROVED, UM, AS REQUESTED, UH, APPROVE WITH THE, THE PNZ AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, OPTION THREE WOULD BE TO INCLUDE THOSE IN ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS OR CHANGES OR DENY THE REQUEST.
UM, SO, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPTION TWO OR THREE AT THIS TIME.
SO I KNOW I RAN THROUGH A LOT OF INFORMATION REALLY QUICK.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? AND I DO HAVE MOTION LANGUAGE, UH, FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY TO, IF WE WISH TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
UH, YEAH, I, I'M GLAD YOU, UH, MR. LET YOU ADDRESS THE, UH, RUNOFF.
'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING READY TO PUT DOWN A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER.
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AND I APPRECIATE STAFF SENDING ME THE 2020 REPORT, UH, DETENTION EXEMPTION STUDY.I APPRECIATE I WENT THROUGH IT AND, UH, IT LOOKS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS I STILL HAVE IS THE TRIBUTARIES COMING DOWN FROM THE PROJECT.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE VERY OVERGROWN AND THAT KIND OF REALLY CONCERNS ME BECAUSE, WELL, IT REALLY CONCERNS ME THAT KIND OF, IT CONCERNS ME A LOT BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE FLOODING AFTER THE 500 YEAR FLOOD EVENT WE HAD HERE IN KYLE.
WE HAD A LOT OF FOOT FLOODING DOWNSTREAM FROM THAT PROJECT.
SO I THINK IF, IF WE WERE TO DO A YEARLY CLEANUP OF THOSE TRIBUTARIES AS A CITY, I'D PROBABLY FEEL BETTER AT SIGNING OFF ON THIS PROJECT.
BUT, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK, UH, KEEP IN MIND AND BE COGNIZANT OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT FLOODING ANYTHING DOWNSTREAM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THOSE TRIBUTARIES IN THAT 'CAUSE OF THIS PROJECT.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO, BRIAN? I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE AREAS, BUT I, THE, UH, AS, AS, UH, JASON POINTED OUT, WE DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY KIND OF DOWNSTREAM ISSUES RELATED TO THE PROJECT.
WE HAD A STUDY THAT, THAT, UH, LOOKED AT THAT COMPREHENSIVELY AND INDICATED THAT THERE ISN'T ANY NEED FOR DETENTION ON THE SITE WITH THE WAY THAT, THAT IT'S BEEN DESIGNED.
SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT SOME THINGS, COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO, OF HOW WE COULD, UH, UPKEEP SOME OF THAT AREA A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY, UH, NEEDS TO HAVE ANY MORE WORK DONE ON THE DRAINAGE, UH, STUDY.
YEAH, I, I I'M MORE ABOUT KEEPING IT CLEAN AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT I, I WAS IN THAT AREA WHEN WE HAD THOSE REALLY HISTORIC FLOODS.
AND I SAW A LOT OF THE DAM THAT TOOK PLACE.
SO KEEPING THOSE TRIBUTARIES CLEAN WOULD DEFINITELY HELP ME PUT MY MIND AT EASE.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA ADD MORE WATER TO THIS WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST AS A CITY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT FLOODING ANYBODY DOWNSTREAM AND WHEN WE CAN TAKE ALL THE PRECAUTIONS ON OUR END.
WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.
UH, JUST WANNA ADD A FEW THINGS.
UM, THE HOSPITAL AS OPTION A, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, WE WOULD BE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE AN ANOTHER LARGE HOSPITAL.
UM, I ALSO NOTICED THAT THE L ARE GONNA BE SIGNIFICANT.
ARE WE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, ARE WE PAYING THE NEW ADOPTED FEES INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT? YES, SIR.
THE APPLICANT WAIVED THEIR REQUEST FOR THE GRANDFATHERING OF FEE.
SO THEY'LL PAY WHATEVER FEES ARE AND EXPECT AT THE TIME.
SO THE IMMEDIATE ONES THAT THEY GET WERE 665, WHICH IS $8.9 MILLION.
IS THAT MONEY DIRECTLY PUT IN IMMEDIATELY, OR IS THAT IN, PUT IN IN PHASES AS THEY'RE DEVELOPING THEIR L THEIR THEIR USE.
IT, IT'LL BE BASED ON THEIR PLATTING.
UM, I THINK, UH, FOR THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE MEAN BY GUARANTEEING THEM AT THIS TIME IS WE MODELED THAT TRACK AT 7.5 LE AN ACRE.
UM, SO THEY GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
IF THEY EXCEED THAT, UM, THEN IT'S UP TO THEM TO INSTALL THE PIPE AND ALL OF THAT IN ORDER TO GET IT TO THE PLANT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT MEANS.
BUT YES, IT WILL BE BASED ON THE, THEIR PHASING DATES AND THEIR PLAT DATES.
AND THEN THIRD QUESTION, I, I KNOW IT'S GONNA' A LONG NIGHT, BUT THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I WANNA ASK.
UM, IN THE AGREEMENTS AND IN THE, UM, HOW IT'S WORKING TOGETHER, THERE'S, UM, SOME LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THE DEVELOPER WILL BUILD THE ROAD OR THEY WILL DONATE TO THE CITY, THE LAND, AND THE CITY BUILDS THE ROAD.
BUT IF THE CITY DOESN'T DO IT, THE DEVELOPER WILL DO IT, BUT THEN BE REIMBURSED.
SO WHY IT, IT SEEMED LIKE, LIKE I WASN'T REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT WAS THE ADVANTAGE OF THE LAND BEING DONATED TO THE CITY.
THE CITY THEN HAS TO BUILD THAT PART OF THE ROAD, BUT IF THEY, BUT IF THE CITY CHOOSES NOT TO ACCEPT THE DONATION, THE, THE DEVELOPER WILL BUILD THE ROAD ANYWAY, BUT THEN REQUIRE REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE CITY.
SO WHY, WHY IS ONE BETTER FOR THE CITY VERSUS THE OTHER? UM, BASICALLY IT'S JUST A TIMING ISSUE AND KIND OF WORST CASE, CASE SCENARIO.
UM, SO WE KNOW THE MARKETPLACE IS GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE ROAD BOND.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE THAT TO US, UM, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IF, IF COUNCIL CHOSE NOT TO ACCEPT IT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PURCHASE THAT LAND FROM THEM, UM, AND THEN BUILD THE ROAD.
UH, THE LANGUAGE ABOUT, ABOUT BEING REIMBURSED WAS ADDED AS JUST A, A PRECAUTIONARY MM-HMM.
SO SAY THE HOSPITAL WAS READY TO BREAK DOWN, UH, UH, SORRY, BREAK GROUND, AND WE WEREN'T READY, UH, WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD FOR WHATEVER REASON, EITHER BUDGETARY OR DELAYS IN CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THEN, THEN THEY NEED THAT ROAD TO
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FUNCTION, SO THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT IT AND REIMBURSE IT.SO THAT'S MORE OF A WORST CASE SCENARIO.
UH, AGAIN, WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO COVER EVERY, EVERY ASPECT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND NOT LEAVE TOO MANY LIABILITIES OUT THERE.
JUST REAL QUICK, THANK YOU FOR TOUCHING ON THE IMPULSE COVER.
85%, AGAIN, THERE'S GONNA BE NO RETENTION POND.
IT'S GONNA BE A DAM, UM, AND SO FORTH.
BUT IT SAYS YOUR P AND Z MAYBE WENT OVER THIS, AND I MAY NOT HAVE CAUGHT IT.
P AND Z RECOMMENDED THE VOTE SIX OH, MODIFY SPECIFIC SECTIONS, 53, 7 24.
BUT TO ALSO TO DELETE ANOTHER SECTION.
I WAS JUST KIND OF JUST, JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS THAT THEY WERE WANTING TO TAKE OUT.
UH, BUT I ALSO SEE THAT THEY RECOMMENDED THE ZONING CHANGE, UH, WHAT THE AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW WALL SIGNAGE, CANOPY SIGNS AND ROOFS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, THE TWO THAT THEY RECOMMENDED TO DELETE WERE VARIANCES TO THE CODE THAT THEY FELT THEY DIDN'T NEED.
UH, THE DEVELOPER FELT THEY DIDN'T NEED ANYMORE, BUT WE HAD ALREADY PREPARED THE DOCUMENT, SO WE WANTED TO JUST CLEAN IT UP FROM A, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE THERE.
SO THEY WEREN'T TAKING AWAY ANYTHING.
PNZ WASN'T TRYING TO TAKE ANYTHING? NO, NO.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST TO CLEAN UP SOME LANGUAGE FROM A VARIANCE THAT THE, THE APPLICANT REMOVED.
UM, THE LANGUAGE WAS ADDED BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE, UH, KIND OF DIFFERENT SIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR I 35 OVERLAY.
UM, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
UM, THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THEIR SIGNAGE APPLIED FOR THE WHOLE TRACK AND NOT JUST WHAT WAS IN THAT 1500 FEET OVERLAY.
UM, STAFF WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
UM, WE REVIEWED WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING AND WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH THE SIGNAGE THAT THEY WERE ALLOWING.
UH, AGAIN, WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH CANOPY SIGNS AND WALL SIGNS.
IT'S JUST, UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS BEING KIND OF TREATED THE SAME OVER THE WHOLE PROJECT.
IF, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I HAVE THE MOTION LANGUAGE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT WILL ACCEPT ALL OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING, AS WELL AS AMEND THE DA TO REMOVE, UH, ANY GRANDFATHERING THAT THE DEVELOPER MAY HAVE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED FOR IMPACT FEES.
UH, I THINK IN THE PAST YEAR WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE APPROVED OR BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH, HAS COME WITH CRITICISM.
UH, AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC THINKS THAT WE QUOTE UNQUOTE RUBBER STAMP EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT WHERE THE LAND THAT IS, UH, ITS STAKE HERE IS ZONED MULTIFAMILY AND WAREHOUSE.
SO IF WE DID NOT, IF WE DO NOT MAKE THIS VOTE, SO THE DEVELOPER BY RIGHT COULD LEGALLY BUILD NOTHING BUT APARTMENTS AND WAREHOUSES THROUGH AND THROUGH ON THIS LAND.
AND IF THERE'S TWO THINGS, TWO OF THE THREE THINGS PEOPLE HATE THE MOST IS APARTMENTS AND WAREHOUSES AND TRAFFIC.
SO JUST WHEN TIME COMES TOMORROW, WHEN PEOPLE FIND OUT ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, JUST KNOW THAT THE OTHER OPTION IS TO ALLOW NOTHING BUT APARTMENTS AND WAREHOUSES.
SO I HAVE ONE CUSTOMER, PARSLEY.
UM, SO I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE, A TOTAL OF 30 ACRES THAT WILL BE DONATED TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
NOT EVERYBODY SHOWS UP IN HERE DONATING, BUT THEY COME HERE ASKING AND ASKING AND ASKING AND SQUEEZING OUR BUDGET.
SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING AND ALSO TO BRING A HOSPITAL, WHICH IS SO NEEDED FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE IF YOU GO, EVEN FOR ME TO GET AN APPOINTMENT WITH MY OWN DOCTOR, I HAVE TO WAIT FOR TWO MONTHS.
SO I'M EXCITED TO HAVE OPTIONS.
ALSO, THE WHOLE PARKLAND AND THE WATER FEATURES, UM, IT'S SOMETHING I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE DURING, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE DONATION.
I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA COME UP WITH.
I WANNA, AND THAT DOESN'T COME VERY OFTEN FROM ME.
THAT'S VERY, THAT'S HIGH PHRASE, CUSTOMER ZUNIGA.
YOU, YOU SAID A VERY IMPORTANT THING, DANIELLA, THAT DONATION OF LAND, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF.
BIG DEVELOPMENTS THAT WILL UPLIFT THE COMMUNITY, BUILD IT UP, AND WORK TOGETHER WITH THE WHOLE CITY.
UM, AND THAT DONATION OF LAND FOR A GOOD PUBLIC USE, UH, FOR A PARK OR FOR, FOR A REC CENTER, FOR A COMMUNITY CENTER.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE THAT TYPE OF LAND, THAT ABILITY TO DO IT, YOU WOULD MAKE GENERATIONAL CHANGE.
UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL THIS FULL.
I NEED ALL THE HIGH DENSITY STUFF, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO THAT, BUT ALSO GIVE SOME OF THAT LAND, I MEAN, FOR GOOD PUBLIC USE.
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UM, SO JUST SAYING, I THINK THAT THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT THING THAT SHE SAID.YOU GONNA COME TO OUR CITY, MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM ON ONE 50.
WELL, I, YEAH, I CAN EVEN JUST ADD THAT.
I, I DON'T THINK MANY FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE AWARE, BUT THERE'S A MAJOR SPRING FED LAKE THAT'S THERE.
SO THIS MM-HMM,
UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S COMPLETELY SHROUDED, UH, FROM PUBLIC VIEW AND FROM PUBLIC AND FROM PUBLIC USE.
BUT ONCE THIS PROJECT COMES TO BEAR IN THAT MAJOR CENTRAL PARK, WHICH IS GONNA BE MUCH MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN I THINK ANYBODY REALIZES AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHEN IT COMES TO BEAR, UH, IT'S, IT'S GONNA MAKE FOR AN A FANTASTIC, UH, UH, NATURAL PARKLAND AMENITY IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, AND TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILOR HEISER SAID ABOUT THAT PREVIOUS ZONING, IT, IT, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T OVERSTATE AND I, I, I KNOW MR. SHELDON, HE'S BEEN, HE'S OWNED THAT LAND, UH, FOR PRETTY MUCH A GENERATION NOW FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND HE HAS HAD, UH, MAYBE 30 OFFERS TO BUY IT, TO, TO TURN IT INTO APARTMENTS AND WAREHOUSES.
THE VALUE OF THAT LAND IN PARTICULAR FOR THOSE USES IS THROUGH THE ROOF.
SO THE FACT THAT MR. SHELDON HAS NOT ONLY SAID NO OVER AND OVER, BUT THEN BROUGHT FORWARD A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT IS THIS CLASS A THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE SAID FOR THE LONGEST TIME THAT ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT BEING A REALLY CLASS A MIXED USE PROJECT IS THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT, WHICH I AM EXCITED FOR.
WE HAVE INVESTED IN, UH, THIS IS A PROJECT TO RIVAL THAT IN MANY WAYS.
UH, IT INCLUDES, IT INCLUDES PROVISIONS FOR SEVEN OR EIGHT PARKING GARAGES THAT HAVE TO BE BUILT CONCURRENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S NOT SURFACE PARK AT ALL.
AND THEN MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD WE'LL BUILD PARKING GARAGES.
IT IT'S THE APPROPRIATE DENSITY, THE APPROPRIATE GREEN SPACE, THE APPROPRIATE, UH, UH, MIXTURE OF USES.
AND THEN IN PARTICULAR, THE THING THAT I KNOW MAY NOT SEEM TO BE HIGH ON A LOT OF FOLKS' MINDS, BUT THE THING I'M MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT THE VIBE TRAIL IS GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS PROJECT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT PASSES, UH, THROUGH THE HOSPITAL UNDERNEATH 1626 INTO KYLE CROSSING AND ALL THE WAY TO OUR DOWNTOWN.
SO THAT IF YOU LIVE DOWNTOWN AND YOU'RE WANTING TO GET TO THAT HOSPITAL AND YOU NEED TO WALK OR WHATEVER, AND OR TO THE MIXED USE AREAS YOU DO NOT, OR GOLF CART, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CROSS 1626 AT MARKETPLACE.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT FOR I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET DONE FOR TWO YEARS THERE, PAM KNOWS.
UH, AND SO THE FACT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FINALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN JUST SHOWS THAT THEY HAD A COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT.
THEY WERE WILLING TO WORK WITH US.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE THE NEATEST SECTION OF VIBE IN THE WHOLE CITY, IN MY OPINION, GOING ALL THE WAY FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER DOWN TO OUR DOWNTOWN, UH, AREA OVER TIME.
UM, I MEAN, THINK ABOUT THE SAFETY OF BEING ABLE TO JUST WALK OR BIKE OR GOLF CART UNDERNEATH 1626 BETWEEN MAJOR COMMERCIAL CENTERS, BETWEEN MA UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT HAPPEN.
DOESN'T THIS ONE HAVE A CONFERENCE CENTER? UH, IT DOES, YES.
UH, THERE'S A HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER.
UH, THERE'S A PROVISION THAT COULD, IT COULD POSSIBLY BE DONATED TO THE CITY AT SOME FUTURE TIME.
AS WE START TO MOVE FORWARD ON A, ON A CONFERENCE CENTER PROPOSAL, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE, UH, VIABLE MULTIPLE VIABLE SITES FOR OUR CONFERENCE CENTER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME COMPETITIVE INTEREST THERE AS WELL.
WE'LL WAIT FOR THAT HOTEL TAX.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 28 29, 30, 31, 32, AND WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28, THE PUD ZONING TO MODIFY THE PUD ZONING ORDINANCE TO INCORPORATE PNZ AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED.
AND ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29 TO DELETE SECTION 6.06 OF THE, OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SO THAT THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES ARE NOT GRANDFATHERED.
ALRIGHT, MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM THAT WE APPROVE.
AGENDA ITEMS 28 THROUGH 32 WITH THE STATED RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? MAYOR, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
'CAUSE THEY PROBABLY WENT THROUGH THIS WITH A FINE COMB.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GOING THROUGH IT, MAKING SURE IT'S ALL DONE CORRECTLY AND BROUGHT TO US.
IS THEY ALL FOR THAT? NO, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE REP REPS ARE ALL HERE IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO THEM.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE OWNER OF THE LAND FOR WAITING FOR THE RIDE DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST TAKING AND DOING DUMB JUST DECISIONS.
ANYONE ELSE? YOU WANNA DELAY THE VOTE? WE WANNA POSTPONE.
WHAT DO Y'ALL WANNA DO? ALL RIGHT.
[33.
(Second Reading) An Ordinance of the City of Kyle, Texas annexing approximately 38.0493 acres of land located at 301 Bebee Road in Hays County, Texas including the abutting streets, roadways, and rights-of-way into the corporate limits of the City. (Caraway Cattle Company Family Partnership LLLP - ANNX-22-0019) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Council voted 6 to 1 to approve on first reading on 12/5/2023.
][34.
(Second Reading) An ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the City of Kyle, Texas for the purpose of rezoning approximately 101 acres to Planned Unit Development (PUD, to include approximately 72 acres of Retail Services Zoning ‘RS’ and approximately 29 acres Multifamily Apartments 3 ‘R-3-3’ for property located at 301 Bebee Road in Hays County, Texas. (Caraway Cattle Company Family Partnership LLLP - Z-22-0110) ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning
Planning and Zoning Commission voted 6-0 to approve the request with conditions listed in the staff memo.
Council voted 7 to 0 to approve on first reading on 12/5/2023.
][35. A Resolution Approving a Development Agreement for the Caraway Tract Development; Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Agreement. ~ Will Atkinson, Director of Planning]
[36.
(First and Final Reading) An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas Approving the Final Project and Finance Plan, a 380 Economic Development Agreement, and an Interlocal Agreement for the Tax Increment and Reinvestment Zone Number Five, City of Kyle, Texas. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel
]WE'RE GONNA BRING UP FOUR ITEMS TOGETHER AS WELL FOR THE NEXT OF OUR BIG DEVELOPMENT PROJECT NIGHT.[02:10:01]
33.SECOND READING IN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, ANNEXING APPROXIMATELY 38.0493 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED 3 0 1 BB ROAD IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS, INCLUDING THE ABUTTING STREETS, ROADWAYS, RIGHTS OF WAY, UH, INTO THE INCORPORATED LIMITS OF THE CITY.
SECOND READING INTO ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF REZONING.
APPROXIMATELY 101 ACRES TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE, UH, APPROXIMATELY 72 ACRES OF RETAIL SERVICES AND APPROXIMATELY 29 ACRES OF MULTIFAMILY.
R THREE THREE FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3 0 1 BB ROAD IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 35, A RESOLUTION APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE CAREWAY TRACK DEVELOPMENT, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.
ITEM NUMBER 36, FIRST AND FINAL READING AND ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, APPROVING THE FINAL PROJECT AND FINANCE PLAN.
CHAPTER THREE 80, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE TAX INCREMENT.
AND, UH, KOHLER'S TWO FOR THE TAX INCREMENT AND REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER FIVE, MS. VARGAS VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
FOR THE RECORD, UH, WE JUST HEARD ABOUT, UH, ONE DEVELOPMENT, UH, ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE OF TOWN.
AND NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER BIG DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO PRESENT TO YOU THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
BUT THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT STAFF HAS SPENT, UH, OVER, OVER A YEAR AND A HALF, MAYBE CLOSE TO TWO YEARS WORKING ON.
UH, WE'VE POURED OUR HEARTS INTO THIS PROJECT AND WE FEEL THAT WE'VE BROUGHT YOU THE BEST POSSIBLE PROJECT AND, UM, THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN DELIVER FOR US FOR THIS SIDE OF TOWN.
AND AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION, IT IS AT THE CARAWAY, UH, TRACK.
THAT'S A HUNDRED ACRES ON THE NORTHERN CORNER OF I 35 AND BB ROAD.
AND, UM, AS WITH THE PREVIOUS PROJECT, UM, ONE OF THE ROAD BOND, UM, ROADS WILL BE, UH, THAT PROJECT WILL BENEFIT FROM IT.
UH, THIS WILL BE ALONG THE FUTURE KOHLER CROSSING ROAD THAT WILL RUN ALONGSIDE THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE TOURS BOARD AT 6:00 PM TODAY APPROVED THE PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN.
SO TODAY WE ARE BRINGING BEFORE YOU THE ANNEXATION AS THE SECOND READING, THE SECOND READING OF THE ZONING, THE DA, UH, THE CHAPTER THREE 80.
UH, THE COUNTY HAS APPROVED THEIR ILA AND, UM, ALSO THE 3 81 AGREEMENT.
SO THEY'RE IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, UH, AS WE HEARD THEY TOOK ACTION TODAY, THIS MORNING.
UH, JUST A REMINDER OF THE DEAL SUMMARY, THE DEAL POINTS.
UM, THERE IS, UH, SOME, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS, STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENTS, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THE 3 83 81 CONTRIBUTIONS.
UM, AND IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD SPLIT BETWEEN THE, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
THE CITY'S PUTTING IN 76% OF THE INCENTIVES, AND THE COUNTY IS COMING IN AT ABOUT 24%.
SO IT WAS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.
WE APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND THE NET BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY OVER, UH, THE NEXT 30 YEARS, ASIDE FROM WHAT THE CITY'S PUTTING IN, UH, THERE'LL BE A $65 MILLION NET BENEFIT TO THE CITY OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
AND WE'LL SEE THAT IN, UH, PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX.
SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS, ADDITIONAL BENEFITS, IT'S A $250 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT, 800 FULL-TIME JOBS, UH, 2.5 MILLION IN ANNUAL SALES TAX AND OVER A MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX.
UH, IT'S, IT'S REAL IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS ALSO A PERFORMANCE BASED AGREEMENT.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, BENCHMARKS THAT I'LL DISCUSS IN ANOTHER SLIDE.
UM, BUT, UH, JUST A REMINDER FROM COUNCIL'S PREVIOUS ACTION ON THE FIFTH OF THIS MONTH, UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE, UH, UH, FOUR ITEMS THAT COUNCIL BROUGHT UP THE, UH, CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT THEY WANTED MET.
AND, UH, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT, UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED TO, UH, ALL THE UTILITY LINES ALONG 35 TO BE BURIED.
THE DEVELOPER AGREES TO THIS TERM.
THEY AGREED TO THE TERM OF, UH, THAT THE IMPACT FEES WILL NOT BE, UH, GRANDFATHERED.
AND ALSO, UM, THERE WAS SOME CLARIFICATION WE NEED ON, ON THIS, UM, ITEM FROM COUNSEL, THE TENURE PERIOD RESTRICTED USES.
SO IF COUNSEL COULD CLARIFY, UH, THE CAR WASH AND GAS STATION, UM, STATEMENT, UH, WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION, AND THEY HAVE ALSO, LEMME JUST GO BACK, I DIDN'T HAVE A SLIDE FOR IT, BUT COUNCIL ALSO ASKED FOR 10% OF RETAIL SPACE IN THE URBAN DISTRICT MUST BE OWNER OCCUPIED.
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AGREES TO SPEND, UH, TIME AND, AND EFFORT IN MARKETING DOLLARS, UM, MARKETING, UH, 10% OF THAT URBAN DISTRICT TO SMALL BUSINESSES WITH, UH, REVENUES UNDER 5 MILLION.SO THEY ALMOST COMPLIED WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR.
THERE WAS ANOTHER EXHIBIT IN THE DA THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.
AND THIS IS JUST, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH THE DEVELOPER.
AFTER THE, UH, CONVEYANCE OF THE LAND, UH, THERE'S SOME, UH, DELIVERY DATES THAT WE PUT IN HERE FOR, UM, FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SANITARY SEWER, UH, STORM SEWER DETENTION, AND KOHLERS AND EXTENSION AND BB RECONSTRUCTION.
SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE NOTE THAT THE CITY WILL, UH, USE ALL REASONABLE EFFORTS TO, UH, CONSTRUCT BB AND KOHLERS WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME PROVIDED.
UM, BUT FINAL CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE FOR COMPLETION WILL, WILL COME, UM, AS THE PROJECT PROGRESSES, WE'LL NOT HOLD UP THEIR PROJECT.
AND, UM, FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION, AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME BENCHMARKS.
UH, IN ORDER FOR THE IN DEVELOPER TO RECEIVE THEIR INCENTIVES, UH, THEY MUST BUILD A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET BEFORE OF THE RETAIL PORTION BEFORE THEY RECEIVE ANY SORT OF, UM, INCENTIVE WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.
AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, IF, IF THEY MEET THE 200,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, BENCHMARK WITHIN THE FIRST FOUR, I'M SORRY, WITHIN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS, THEY MUST BE ISSUED SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS, UM, FOR THEM, FOR US TO ISSUE THE BONDS.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A DELIVERABLE FOR THE URBAN DISTRICT, UH, AND 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, RETAIL SPACE AS WELL.
SO IT, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THESE BENCHMARKS IN THERE TO, FOR, FOR YOU AND THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT, UH, PERFORM THESE INCENTIVES, I'M SORRY, PERFORM THESE, UM, BENCHMARKS AND THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE THEIR INCENTIVES.
UM, AND AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO COUNCIL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT IS THE RETAIL LEAKAGE THAT WE SEE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY AND OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.
THAT'S WHY OUR COUNTY PARTNERS WERE WILLING TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THIS AGREEMENT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO NORTH OR SOUTH ANYMORE WHEN THIS PROJECT COMES TO LIFE FOR OUR SHOPPING AND DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT NEEDS AS WELL.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY, UH, THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S THE URBAN DISTRICT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, THE NAME IS STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST A PLACEHOLDER THERE OF THE VIBE PARK.
BUT, UM, THE VIBE WILL ALSO BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO IT'S NICE TO SEE ALL PROJECTS CONNECTING TO THE VIBE.
AND, UM, SOON THE WHOLE CITY WILL, WILL BE ON THE VIBE.
THERE'S SOME OTHER DIFFERENT, UH, VIEWPOINTS OF THE URBAN DISTRICT WHERE WE WILL SEE SOME, UH, SMALL BUSINESSES LOCATE THERE AS WELL.
AND IT'S, IT'S VERY ACTIVE GREEN SPACE, WALKABLE, UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
SO, UH, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO WILL TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF THE NEXT ACTION ITEMS. THANK YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WILL ATKINSON, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE RECORD, UH, THESE ARE, UM, UH, GONNA BE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
VICTORIA DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF GOING OVER WHAT, UM, HAS ALREADY OCCURRED.
BUT, UM, THE AREA IN BLUE IS A, IS, UH, ALREADY ANNEXED.
THE AREA IN YELLOW, WHICH IS ABOUT 38 ACRES IS NOT, AND UPON FINAL READING TONIGHT, IT WILL BE ANNEXED.
UM, THERE WAS A VOTE FROM SIX TO ONE, UH, AT THE 12 FIVE MEETING.
THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE, UH, BOUNDARIES FOR THE RETAIL SERVICES AND THE R THREE THREE, UH, BASE ZONING, WHICH IS GONNA BE FURTHER MODIFIED IN THE P AS SHOWN IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL.
UH, HERE IS A LAND PLAN SHOWING WHERE THE MULTIFAMILY, THE VERTICAL MIXED USE SLASH URBAN DISTRICT AND THE RETAIL WILL BE.
UH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, 450,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, BUILD OUT A COMMERCIAL SPACE.
MULTIFAMILY WILL BE NO MORE THAN 426 1 2 OR THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
AND THEN WE HAVE A, UH, CIRCULATION PLANE RIGHT HERE SHOWING, UH, PEDESTRIAN ROOTS, VEHICLE ROOTS, AND ALSO THE VIBE TRAIL.
UH, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'RE GONNA BE, UH, DONATING, UM, THE, UH, KOHLER'S CROSSING RIGHT OF WAY AND PORTIONS OF THE BB ROAD RIGHT OF WAY SO WE CAN GET OUR ROAD MODS DONE AS WELL.
AND SOME ADDITIONAL IMAGES FOR, UM, THAT ARE GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RELATED TO, UM, ELEVATIONS FOR, UM, APPROVAL FOR THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDINGS.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THE CSS, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE REVIEWING THOSE ADMINISTRATIVELY.
HERE'S SOME ELEVATIONS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE VMU, SOME KEY VARIANCES AND
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CODE MODIFICATIONS.WE, UH, AS STATED LAST TIME, UH, THEY WANT A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 65 FEET, UH, FOR RETAIL HEIGHT, A MAXIMUM OF 90 FEET FOR THE HOTEL HEIGHT, UH, MULTIFAMILY HEIGHT VARIANCE UP TO 65 FROM 45, AND PARKING RATIOS IN THE MULTIFAMILY TO BE AT ONE AND A HALF SPACES PER UNIT, PLUS 5% FOR GUEST PARKING.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A MASTER SIGNAGE PLAN SO WE KNOW WHERE ALL THE, UH, MONUMENT SIGNS AND MULTI-TENANT SIGNS ARE GOING TO GO.
AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THE SAME THESE DOCUMENTS, WHICH WE HAVE, THAT WE CAN ALLOW FOR SOME, UH, PROOF AMOUNT OF THE SIGNS IN THE, UH, AS SHOWN HERE IN THE PICTURES.
AND THEN OF COURSE, AS THE RESTRICTIONS ON RETAIL, THIS IS, UH, WHAT WAS IN THE DOCUMENTS.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE CLARIFICATION IN THE MOTION WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED WHENEVER Y'ALL MAKE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT IS EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT.
AND AS, UM, AS A MATTER OF, UM, A PROCESS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS, IT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO FINALLY PASS THIS, THAT WE TAKE THE ANNEXATION VOTE FIRST SO THAT THAT CAN BE, UH, HAPPENED.
AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE REMAINDER OF THE VOTES AFTER THAT.
BUT BEFORE WE, UH, TAKE THOSE VOTES, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT? COMMENTARY? ALRIGHT, WELL, I'VE GOT MOTIONS TO MAKE IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO MAKE 'EM.
ALRIGHT, THE FIRST IS, UH, JUST, UH, ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 33, WHICH IS THE ANNEXATION.
I'D LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND, OUR MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED, MAY ALL MOTION CARRIES SIX TO ONE.
UH, THE REMAINDER WILL BE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 34, 35 AND 36, WHEREAS, UH, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, UH, ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 34, THE PUD ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, GAS STATIONS ARE PROHIBITED FOR 10 YEARS.
CAR WASHES ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT THAT ONE NATIONAL, REGIONAL BRAND IS TO BE ALLOWED AND MAY NOT BE CONSTRUCTED ON A CORNER OR FRONTING, UH, ON I 35.
AND IN EXHIBIT C CHART TWO, RETAIL SERVICES ADJUST AND PREVIOUS COVERAGE MAXIMUM TO BE ON A PER LOT BASIS.
AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO AGENDA ITEM 36, THAT WE REVISED THE DOCUMENTS AS NEEDED TO EXCLUDE A PORTION OF REAL PROPERTY TAXES FROM THE COUNTY'S ROAD AND BRIDGE TAX FROM BEING DEPOSITED INTO THE TURS FUND.
SECOND, OUR MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 34 THROUGH 36 WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE REAL QUICK AND JUST, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR INDULGING US AS WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THIS MULTIPLE TIMES WITH YOU OVER THE LAST, UH, FEW MONTHS.
UH, IT'S BEEN A LONG EFFORT FOR ALL OF YOU AND I, I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO THINK ALL OF THE STAFF HAVE MADE THIS HAPPEN.
THIS HAS BEEN A TOTAL TEAM EFFORT TO HAVE THIS PROJECT COME FORWARD, AS WELL AS THE LAKE PARK AND HOSPITAL PROJECT THAT YOU SAW BEFORE AND FINALLY TO THINK THE DEVELOPERS AND THEIR TEAMS FOR ALL THEIR WORK.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER GUYS ON THIS.
AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD TO SEE THESE MOVING AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HELPING IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
UM, CAN WE DO A, A SIX MINUTE BREAK? YES.
SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, GAVEL BACK IN AT NINE 40.
IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? COUNCILOR RIZZO NINE 40.
[37.
A Resolution Approving Amendment No. 2 to the Regional Water Supply Contract by and among the Alliance Regional Water Authority (the “Agency”) and the City of Buda, Texas, the City of Kyle, Texas, the City of San Marcos, Texas, and the Canyon Regional Water Authority, Providing for the Agency to Issue Bond Anticipation Notes. ~ Graham Moore, P.E., Executive Director
][38. Approve a Resolution of the City of Kyle approving a Resolution of the Alliance Regional Water Authority authorizing the issuance of Bond Anticipation Notes for the City of Kyle, Texas. ~ Graham Moore, P.E., Executive Director]
GONNA CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.BRING UP AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 37, A RESOLUTION APPROVING, AND WE WILL BRING 37 TO 38 UP TOGETHER.
UH, 37 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT, BY AND AMONG, UH, THE ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, THE AGENCY IN THE CITY OF BUTTA, TEXAS, CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, SAN MARCOS, AND THE CANYON REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY PROVIDING FOR AGENCY TO ISSUE BOND ANTICIPATED NOTES, UH, NUMBER 38, APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE APPROVING A RESOLUTION OF THE ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS.
MR. MOORE, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS GRAHAM MOORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LION REGIONAL WATER ATTORNEY.
UH, APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THESE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA YOU LIKE.
WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME ACTION, UH, AT, AT THE END OF THIS.
I HAVE A FEW SLIDES I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH, AND SOME OF THIS WAS ADDRESSED AND PRESENTED BY MS. SCHMITZ EARLIER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT OF COUNCIL.
UH, UH, CITY MANAGER LANGLEY TO OUR, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
JUST AS A REFRESHER, ALLIANCE WATER, WE'RE A REGIONAL WATER ENTITY THAT IS, UH, FORMED TO HELP RESOLVE LONG-TERM WATER NEEDS OF OUR SPONSORS.
WE ORIGINALLY CREATED IN 2007 AS THE HAYES CALDWELL PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY AND THEN CONVERTED TO ALLIANCE WATER IN
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2017 THROUGH LEGISLATIVE ACTION.UH, WE DO, WE HAVE NO RETAIL CUSTOMERS OF OUR SYSTEM, AND WE ARE GOVERNED BY A 13 MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE SPONSOR.
SO, UH, AS, AS YOU DID EARLIER TONIGHT, AS A REMINDER, WHO THE SPONSORS ARE, THE CITIES OF KYLE, SAN MARCUS AND BUTTA, AS WELL AS CANYON REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, WHO REPRESENTS SEVERAL DIFFERENT SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICTS AND WATER SUPPLY CORPORATIONS, INCLUDING COUNTY LINE SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT.
YOU SEE THE PROPORTIONAL, UM, OWNERSHIP OF THE SYSTEM, UM, THAT'S LISTED HERE, THAT'S SET BY THE CONTRACT.
THAT EQUATES TO THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT KYLE WILL GET OUT OF THE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE AMOUNT THAT IT PAYS INTO THE SYSTEM.
AND, UH, THE BOARD REPRESENTATION IS, IS ROUGHLY PROPORTIONAL TO THAT AS WELL.
SO, WHERE WE'RE AT, UH, AS YOU, I'M SURE YOU RECALL, I WAS BEFORE YOU IN NOVEMBER, UH, GIVING YOU AN UPDATE THAT WE HAVE A SHORTAGE IN THE OVERALL PROGRAM OF $46 MILLION, UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION, PRIMARILY RELATED TO COST INCREASES, UH, DUE TO CONSTRUCTION AND LAND ACQUISITION.
UM, AGAIN, CITY OF KYLE SHARE OF THAT IS ABOUT $13 MILLION, THE 28.17% AS SET BY THE CONTRACT.
UH, OUR INTENT IS STILL TO UTILIZE THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD SWIFT FUNDS ULTIMATELY FOR FINANCING THIS.
HOWEVER, THOSE FUNDS CANNOT BE ACCESSED UNTIL LATE 2024.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO UTILIZE ARE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES TO FILL THE GAP BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE CAN UTILIZE THE SWIFT FUNDING.
WE WANT TO GET THE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE KNOW THAT THE CITY NEEDS THE WATER, NEEDS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS METHOD AS A WAY TO CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECTS.
SPECIFICALLY THE PROJECTS INCLUDE WHAT WE CALL THE SEGMENT C PIPELINE, WHICH IS THE DELIVERY OF WATER TO KYLE, TO COUNTY LINE, AS WELL AS TO, UH, SAN MARCUS, AND ULTIMATELY WILL CONNECT AND DELIVER WATER TO BUTA.
WE HAVE A NORTHERN INLINE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT HELPS US WITH SOME PRESSURE MAINTENANCE ON THAT LINE, AND THEN AN ADMINISTRATIVE FACILITY.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING OF THE SPONSORS, AND, UM, I'VE GOTTA TELL YOU, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, UH, SIX OTHER ENTITIES HAVE, HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SAME PRESENTATION AND, AND ULTIMATELY HAVE MADE THE APPROVALS OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
AND SO YOU, YOU HAPPEN TO BE THE FINAL ONE ON THE LIST HERE BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS.
UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR FIRST AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT FOR ALLOW TO ALLOW US TO ISSUE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES.
UH, AGAIN, THAT CONTRACT SETS THE BASIS FOR WHICH WE OPERATE.
AND SO SPECIFICALLY THE AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW US TO ISSUE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY, UH, ANTICIPATED TO BE REQUIRED.
AND SO WE WERE ASKING FOR THAT AMENDMENT.
AND THEN THE SECOND ACTION ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE ITSELF.
UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH WELLS FARGO BANK AND SECURING, UM, UH, BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE.
AND SO WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL OF THOSE FINANCIAL DETAILS AGAIN, UH, FOR ACTION.
ITEM NUMBER 37 ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT.
WE ADD SECTION 3.15 TO THE AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS THE USE OF A BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE.
UH, WE BELIEVE BY ADDING THIS INTO THE CONTRACT, WE ARE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR, UH, BEING ABLE TO, TO REFUND THIS THROUGH THE STATE WATER IMPLEMENTATION FUND OF TEXAS, THE SWIFT FUNDING, UH, WHEN THAT COMES, UH, THIS NEXT YEAR, IT STILL MAINTAINS THE REQUIREMENT FOR APPROVAL FROM ALL SPON SPONSOR COUNCILS AND BOARDS, JUST LIKE WE'VE DONE ON PREVIOUS ISSUANCES AND, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS ONE.
AND THEN ON THE MORE DETAILED ACTION FOR, UH, ITEM NUMBER 38, THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH WELLS FARGO BANK TO SECURE THIS.
AGAIN, THE TOTAL PRINCIPLE AMOUNT IS 46 MILLION.
KYLE'S SHARE OF THAT IS JUST SHY OF 13 MILLION.
THE INTEREST RATE THAT WELLS FARGO HAS SECURED FOR THIS IS 4.72%.
SO THE TOTAL INTEREST IS JUST SHY OF 2 MILLION.
KYLE'S SHARE OF THAT INTEREST IS 563,000.
UM, WE, THE INTEREST PAYMENT WOULD BE DUE AT THE TIME OF SWIFT CLOSING, WHICH WE ESTIMATE BY THANKSGIVING OF 2024.
SO WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT AT NOVEMBER 21ST, WE ARE STILL INVESTIGATING WITH THE WIRE DEVELOPMENT BOARD THE ABILITY TO ROLL THE, UH, FINANCING, THE INTEREST PAYMENT IN WITH THE PRINCIPAL SO THAT THERE WILL NOT EVEN BE AN INTEREST PAYMENT DUE IN 2024 THAT THAT'D BE SPREAD TILL, UH, SUMMER OF 2025.
DON'T HAVE THAT AFFIRMATIVE APPROVAL YET FROM THE WIRE DEVELOPMENT BOARD, BUT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT WITH THEM AS WE, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR SWIFT APPLICATION.
SO I BELIEVE THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, OPTIONS TONIGHT.
UM, AND SOME RAMIFICATIONS POTENTIALLY OF THOSE OPTIONS.
THE FIRST IS TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE REGIONAL,
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UH, REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT TO ALLOW FOR THE ISSUANCE OF BANS.AND THEN THE SECOND ACTION WOULD BE APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF THE BAN, UM, IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE, UM, TO ARE ANY CHANGES TO THE AMENDMENT THAT COULD DELAY THE FINANCING AND ULTIMATELY DELAY THE MOVEMENT FORWARD OF THE PROJECTS.
SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT AS AN OPTION, BUT A CONCERN.
AND THEN OF COURSE, IF THE AMENDMENT OR THE BAND ISSUANCE WAS DENIED, THEN THAT WOULD HAVE SOME DELAY TO THE MOVING FORWARD OF THE PROJECTS.
AND, AND SO THAT'S A, A PRIMARY CONCERN.
THAT'S ALL THE, UH, THE ITEMS I HAVE TONIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND, UH, MR. MOHIT MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SLIDES TO PRESENT ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THIS ON THE, THE CITY'S, UH, FINANCIAL ASPECTS.
SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO TURN THAT OVER UNLESS YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH QUESTIONS ON THIS FIRST.
JUST AS LONG AS IN THAT COMMENTARY, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE RATE PAYERS AND WHAT THAT I, UH, IMPACT WOULD BE, THAT'LL BE TOP OF MIND FOR US.
SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, I JUST HAVE A FEW SLIDES TO, TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THE CITY SIDE.
SO UNDERSTANDING ARVAS PLAN FOR FUNDING THE $46 MILLION COST INCREASE, IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS.
SO STEP ONE, THEY WILL SECURE INTERIM LOAN, THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES FOR $46 MILLION.
THE, THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES WILL BE PURCHASED BY WELLS FARGO BANK.
THE INTEREST RATE IS 4.72%, WHICH WILL ACCRUE AND WILL BE PAID AT CLOSING OF PERMANENT FINANCING.
AND I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL OF THAT.
THE ACCRUED INTEREST ON THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES IS ESTIMATED TO, TO TOTAL APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION.
STEP TWO, ARWA IS GOING TO SECURE PERMANENT FINANCING FROM TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD'S SWIFT FUNDING PROGRAM IN NOVEMBER, 2024.
THE $46 MILLION PLUS THE ACCRUED INTEREST ON THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES WILL BE ADDED TO THE PERMANENT FINANCING PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST WILL BE DUE EACH YEAR.
EACH SPONSORING ENTITY RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING PRO AT A SHARE OF THEIR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.
SO WHAT IS THE CITY OF KYLE'S PORTION? THE CITY SHARE OF ARVO PROJECT COST INCREASE HERE AGAIN IN TWO STEPS, WE ARE 28.17% IN THE TOTAL, UM, SPONSORSHIP.
THE UP TOP LINES ONE THROUGH THREE IS THE TOTAL COST WITH THE PROJECT COST INCREASE AND THE INTERIM FINANCING COST OF THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES THAT WILL TOTAL APPROXIMATELY $48 MILLION.
LINE FOUR THROUGH SEVEN IS CITY'S SHARE.
OUR SHARE IS 28.17% OF THE COST RESPONSIBILITY.
KYLE'S SHARE OF COST INCREASE IS 12 MILLION 958 200.
THE INTERIM FINANCING COST FOR THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTICE IS ESTIMATED TO BE OUR SHARE $563,032.
THAT BRINGS OUR TOTAL COST INCREASE TO 13,521,232 ESTIMATED ON THE BOND ANTICIPATION NOTES.
STEP TWO, THE PERMANENT FINANCING HERE AGAIN, KYLE'S OWNERSHIP IS 28.17%.
INTERIM FINANCING COST IS 5 63.
TOTAL COST INCREASE, 13,521 13,000,520 1002 32.
NOW WE GO INTO PERMANENT FINANCING SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER OF 2024.
THE ESTIMATED KYLE'S PORTION OF THE SWISS SWIFT BONDS, WHICH WILL BE 30 YEAR FINANCING, WILL BE 14,000,080 5,000.
SO THIS IS THE 13,000,521 PLUS ISSUANCE.
COST IS ESTIMATED TO EQUAL ABOUT 14,000,080 5,000.
THE FINANCING COST OVER 30 YEARS, ASSUMING THE INTEREST RATE WE ARE USING IS GOING TO BE 11 MILLION 2 68 360 9 FOR A TOTAL COST OF 25 MILLION 3 53 360 9.
MIND YOU, THIS IS ESTIMATED, ESTIMATED WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL INTEREST RATE WILL BE UNTIL ARVO GOES TO CLOSING ON THE PERMANENT FINANCING WITH TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
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HERE'S THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE OF WATER RIGHT IMPACT OF ARVA PROJECT COST INCREASE.IF COUNCIL WAS TO SAY CITY MANAGER IMPLEMENT THIS AND WHATEVER THE RATE INCREASE IS, GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT THAT.
SO WITH ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, THE RATE INCREASE IS GOING TO BE BETWEEN FOUR AND 5% SYSTEMWIDE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY COMMERCIAL.
SO THAT'S ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
THE ESTIMATED DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT FROM THE WATER UTILITY FUND WILL BE ABOUT $900,000 A YEAR ON THE PERMANENT FINANCING.
SO HERE'S A HISTORICALS PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR WITH ARAWA.
SO TO DATE, WE ARAWA HAS ISSUED APPROXIMATELY $85 MILLION IN CONTRACT REVENUE BONDS ON OUR BEHALF FOR OUR CITY OF KYLEES, 28.17%.
WE HAVE PAID FOR THE PRINCIPAL PORTION SO FAR, 5.9 MILLION.
THE TOTAL PRINCIPAL OUTSTANDING BALANCE THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR, THAT OUR WAY HAS ISSUED ON CITY OF KYLE'S, UH, BEHALF, IS 78.8 MILLION.
THAT'S BEFORE THE NEW ADDITION IN NOVE NOVEMBER OF 2024.
THE LAST COLUMN, UM, I MISLABELED IT, IT SHOULD SAY THE AVERAGE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE THAT THE CITY PAYS PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON OUR RELATED CONTRACT REVENUE BONDS.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY $4 MILLION EVERY YEAR FROM THE CITY'S WATER UTILITY.
SO THAT GIVES YOU A BACKDROP WHERE WE ARE TODAY BEFORE THE COST INCREASE.
HERE'S A HISTORY OF OUR RATE INCREASE OVER THE 10 YEAR PERIOD.
THE LAST RATE INCREASE IN THE 10 YEAR WINDOW WAS IN 2021 OF 10% AND IN 2022 6%.
SINCE THEN, WE'VE NOT HAD A RATE INCREASE.
AND I'M ALSO SHOWING YOU THE WASTEWATER, WASTEWATER IN THE 10 YEAR WINDOW HAD ONLY HAD ONE INCREASE IN 2021.
SO IN SUMMARY CONCLUSION, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE, UH, CALCULATING A FOUR TO 5% RATE INCREASE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT RATE INCREASE RIGHT AWAY.
THE FINAL RATE IMPACT AND RATE INCREASE RECOMMENDATION IS CONTINGENT ON THESE FOUR FACTORS.
THE GROWTH IN CUSTOMER BASE OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, THE GROWTH IN SYSTEM REVENUES THAT IT WILL GENERATE WITH CUSTOMER GROWTH AND THE GROWTH RATE OF OUR EXPENDITURES.
OPERATING EXPENSES, CAPITAL EXPENSES, WE ARE UNDERTAKING A COST OF SERVICE STUDY THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE ALREADY ISSUED THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
IT'S IN OUR APPROVED BUDGET COUNCIL APPROVED IT.
WE ARE GOING TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE COST OF SERVICE STUDY AND RATE DESIGN FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS THAT WILL HELP US DETERMINE THE COST RESPONSIBILITY BETWEEN CUSTOMER CLASSES.
SO UNTIL WE KNOW THAT I THINK IT'S KIND OF PREMATURE TO IMPLEMENT A RATE INCREASE, WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THAT.
AND THEN LASTLY IT IS CITY COUNCIL'S POLICY DIRECTION THAT WE WILL IMPLEMENT, WHETHER THAT'S 3%, 4% OR COUNCIL WANTS TO DO IT OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS.
SO ALL THOSE FACTORS WILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT A RATE INCREASE.
SO THAT PRETTY MUCH MAYOR AND COUNCIL CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
MR. MOORE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, MAYOR PRO TEM THAT THAT KIND OF, THAT KIND OF HELPS A LITTLE BIT THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE DEMAND'S GONNA BE THERE AND, AND THAT IS A VERY BIG PRICE TAG, YOU KNOW, 13 MILLION.
BUT, UM, I THINK BY EXPLAINING THAT NOT RIGHT OFF THE BAT THE FEES ARE STARTING TO COME, WE HAVE TO SEE AT WHICH RATE.
CORRECT? 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE SURVEY, ALL THE SURVEYS THAT YOU'RE DOING.
IF I'M, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, NEW DEVELOPMENTS, WE HAVE TO GET THOSE NUMBERS FIRST BEFORE WE CAN EVEN SAY IT'S GONNA BE A 5% INCREASE OR SIX OR EVEN A THREE.
WE'VE GOTTA SEE WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE AT.
IT'S ALL PREDICTION ON THE GROWTH AND SO FORTH, BUT IT, WE
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ALREADY KNOW IT'S THERE AND WE'RE GONNA BE NEEDING THAT.UM, SO I THINK HELPING BREAKING DOWN THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS THERE AND ALSO LETTING THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT AGAIN, WE ARE STILL GROWING AND THE DEMAND'S GONNA BE THERE.
SO THERE MAY BE IN THE FUTURE RATE INCREASES TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SLIDE THAT I SHARED WITH COUNCIL, THAT GIVEN $85 MILLION THAT WE HAVE INCURRED SO FAR, AND IF YOU SEE, LOOK AT THE RATE INCREASES, WE'VE ONLY HAD TWO RATE INCREASES AND THE 10 YEAR WINDOW THAT CAN YOU ACTUALLY JUST FOR THIS COUNCIL TO KNOW YEAH.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU GO BACK AND SAY HOW MANY OF THESE YEARS WE WERE ORIGINALLY NO, THE SLIDE, YOU WERE JUST AT THE, THAT ONE.
HOW MANY OF THESE YEARS ORIGINALLY WERE YOU PROPOSING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE, WERE YOU SETTING COUNCIL UP TO ANTICIPATE THAT THIS ARWA DEBT WAS GONNA COST US RATE INCREASES? I REMEMBER 2020, YEAH.
WE HAD RATE INCREASES PLANNED IN 20 18, 20 19, AND THEN 21, 22 AND 22 WAS GOING TO BE A 10%.
WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT AND BROUGHT IT DOWN TO 6%.
BECAUSE THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE GOTTA GET.
WE GOTTA GET THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS FROM THOSE THESE STUDIES THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING BEFORE WE JUST THROW OUT A NUMBER.
AND ANOTHER THING THAT SHOULD, I SHOULD HAVE ADDED ON THIS LIST, UH, UNDER NUMBER FOUR IS COUNCIL JUST APPROVED A NEW ALMOST DOUBLE IMPACT FEE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THAT BRINGS IN AS A NON RATE REVENUE SO WE KNOW WHAT THE RATE REVENUE IMPACT SHOULD BE ON THE CUSTOMERS.
SO I, I THINK THE BEST THING TO DO, MY RECOMMENDATION AND CITY MANAGER PROBABLY AGREES, I HOPE THAT WE OUGHT TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY RESULTS SHOW.
UH, WE SHOULD AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE TO SEE WHAT THE REVENUE ESTIMATES ARE, WHAT THE EXP EXPENDITURE ESTIMATES ARE, AND THEN MAKE A POLICY DECISION THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE SALES TAX FOR THE GENERAL CODE.
BUT, BUT THE, YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT YOU HAVE TO LOOK, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE ENTIRE FINANCIAL PICTURE.
UH, YEAH, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE IMPACT FEES 'CAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE INCREASES.
I, I KNOW THROUGH THE LAST FOUR YEARS WE'VE UH, COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HELP.
BUT, UH, YEAH, JUST IN THE FUTURE, SEEING WHAT CAN HELP MAYBE EVEN SOME FEDERAL FUNDING, ANYTHING WE CAN THINK OF TO TRY TO, UH, MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE INCREASES.
TRYING TO KEEP, UH, THE WATER AFFORDABLE IS IMPORTANT.
AND I KNOW WATER'S IMPORTANT FOR US.
I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU NEED WATER AND WATER'S EXPENSIVE, BUT, UH, ANYTHING WE CAN DO DEFINITELY HELPS.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL'S FAMILIAR TOO MUCH WITH SWIFT LOANS AND HOW THEY WORK, BUT IT IS A, THINK OF IT LIKE AN ENDOWMENT.
THE TEXAS, THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, MULTIPLE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN AN ACCOUNT THAT THEY USE TO CREATE, UH, REVENUES FOR THEMSELVES.
AND THEN THEY USE THAT, THAT INTEREST INCOME TO OFFSET OUR DEBT.
SO WHEN WE GO AND BORROW, THE ACTUAL INTEREST RATE THAT WE'RE PAYING IS SUBSIDIZED, UH, WHICH IS PART OF WHY WE ARE ABLE TO STRETCH OUT THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS OVER THE LIFE OF THE GROWTH WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE TOO HIGH OF INTEREST PAYMENTS.
YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S, IT'S A SUBSIDIZED INTEREST RATE.
YOU, YOU BORROW AT THE STATE'S CREDIT RATE AND THEN THEY SUBSIDIZE THOSE RATES EVEN BELOW THAT.
STATE'S CREDITS RATE STATE'S CREDIT RATE SUBSIDIZED BELOW, PLUS THE SUBSIDY BELOW PLUS THE SUBSIDY.
SO IT'S THE CHEAPEST INTEREST YOU WE WILL EVER GET IS FROM A SWIFT LOAN, WHICH DOES HELP CUSTOMER HEISER.
SORRY I HAD MY HAND UP SO LONG AGO.
I WOULD, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 37.
I, I'LL SECOND, UH, MOTIONS MADE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 37 AND 38 BY COUNCILOR HEISER, SECONDED BY THE MAYORS, THEIR DISCUSSION MEMBER ZUNIGA.
YEAH, SO I JUST WANTED TO GET BACK A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE, BUT I STILL WANNA DO SOME MATH.
SO WE'RE GONNA BORROW 13 PLUS THE GETTING IN THAT SWIFT THING.
WE'RE GONNA GET THE 14 IN PRINCIPLE, BUT WE'RE GONNA ADD ANOTHER 11 MILLION AFTER 30 YEARS.
SO TOTAL, YOU'RE SAYING 25 MILLION OVER IN 30 YEARS.
THAT'S WHAT IT TOOK, RIGHT? THAT'S THE PRINCIPLE PLUS THE INTEREST.
SO ON THE, ON THE LOAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GO, WE'RE RUNNING MORE INTO
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DEBT THAT WAY.LIKE THAT'S, WE ONLY, WE NEEDED 13.
WE'RE A LARGE CITY THAT COULD EASILY COUGH UP A SHORTER PERIOD.
UH, AND I GET THAT WE'RE GETTING A GOOD RATE FUNDED BY A TEXAS WATER DEPARTMENT.
UM, BUT ISN'T THERE AN, WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE SO THAT WE DON'T RUN $11 MILLION IN INTEREST? WELL, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT IT.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, A LOT OF TIME, WELL 'CAUSE WE ONLY, WE ONLY, WE REALLY ONLY NEED 48 MILLION, RIGHT? WE NEED TO COUGH UP 13 THE OTHER PARTNERS OR GET MORE PARTNERS INTO ARAWA, RIGHT? SO THAT THEY COULD COUGH UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MANAGE THIS IN 10 YEARS AND, AND SAVE OURSELVES MAYBE $5 MILLION.
UH, FROM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, CITIES LIKE YOURS, THEY'RE IN HIGH GROWTH CORRIDORS.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MM-HMM,
AND BUT, BUT IF I HAVE A CREDIT CARD AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE LOADED IN, IN DEBT WITH INTEREST, THEN I PAY MY MONTHLY PAYMENT PLUS A LITTLE MORE TO THE PRINCIPAL, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS FOR 30 YEARS.
SO THEN NOW WE JUST RAN UP THE BOOKS, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVING 78 MILLION HISTORICALLY THAT WE BORROWED THROUGH ARAWA, BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA ADD ANOTHER BASICALLY 25 AT THE END OF 30 YEARS.
SO, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ROUGH, BUT, BUT I'M JUST THINKING THAT HOW DO I MANAGE MY HOUSEHOLD AND WE CAN'T MANAGE IT UP HERE? WELL, LET ME, LET ME JUMP IN AND, AND TRY TO SAY SOMETHING.
I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THE BUDGET PROCESS, GIVE YOU DIFFERENT AMORTIZATION SCHEDULES IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A 25 YEAR OR 20 OR 15 YEAR AND THEN SHOW YOU WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT ON IT COSTS MONEY TO PAY MORE ON THE PRINCIPAL UPFRONT, IT'S GONNA HAVE POTENTIALLY AN IMPACT ON RATES.
BUT WE CAN SHOW YOU THOSE MODELS AS WE BRING YOU THAT FORWARD IN THE BUDGET.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW COULD YOU PAY OFF THE DEBT FASTER.
IT IS AN INTEREST EXPENSE THAT YOU AVOID IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S AT THE, THE, THE OFFSET IS THE RATE.
WHAT IS THE RATE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS FOR, UH, THE WATER RATES THAT WE'RE CHARGING? SO WE CAN CERTAINLY SHOW YOU.
WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE CITIES WE'RE NOT GONNA DEFAULT.
SO THESE ARE PRETTY MUCH OH NO, PRETTY GUARANTEED.
BUT YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE THE INCOME STREAMS COMING IN FROM THE CUSTOMERS AND THE RATE THAT THEY PAY TO PAY BACK THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST, IF YOU SHORTEN THE SCHEDULE UP AND YOU'RE GONNA PAY MORE PRINCIPAL, YOU WILL SAVE MONEY OVER TIME ON INTEREST JUST LIKE A, A MORTGAGE.
BUT YOUR PAYMENT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE HIGHER.
I MEAN, SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT AND SHOW YOU THOSE OPTIONS SO YOU CAN HELP FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, THE COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHERE DO YOU WANNA BE ON THAT CONTINUUM? IT IS PART OF THE STRATEGY THAT YOU'RE WAITING THE 30 YEARS BECAUSE YOU'RE AD THEY'RE GONNA ADD MORE CUSTOMERS AND THEN YOU CAN SPREAD OUT SOME OF THAT DEBT.
I MEAN, MY THINKING, MY THINKING IS STARTING TO KICK IN.
IT'S PART OF IT, PART OF IT IS THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE RATES, UH, IS TO TRY TO, IT'S A BALANCE OF LOOKING AT, I KNOW THAT WE HAD SOME COMMENTS ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP THE RATES AFFORDABLE FOR CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THAT THOSE
SO IF YOU ARE ONLY HERE FOR 2, 3, 5 YEARS, YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE COST.
YOU'D WANT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE HERE FOR THE 20, 30, 40 YEAR PERIOD TO PAY THEIR SHARE.
SO THAT'S THE REASON YOU STRETCH IT OUT TOO.
WELL, SO THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS FOR IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT GETS TO THE MATH AND THE MONEY, I'M, I HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T RUBBER STAMP IT QUESTIONS, SO I WANT THE ANSWERS.
AND ANOTHER WAY TO THINK ABOUT, IT'S LIKE USING THE MORTGAGE ANALOGY'S, LIKE, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES A MORTGAGE IS THE MOST SECURED ASSET YOU HAVE AND YOU GET THE LOWEST INTEREST RATES.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT MONEY FOR A DOWN PAYMENT AND YOU THINK, WELL I CAN MAKE A DOUBLE DOWN PAYMENT, UH, IN ORDER TO LOWER MY, YOU KNOW, PRINCIPAL ALLOCATION, UH, AND OVERALL INTEREST COST, YES YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT YOU'RE PAYING EXTRA CASH AT YOUR CHEAPEST INTEREST RATE.
WHEREAS IF YOU HAVE OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD, YOU GOTTA RAISE THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE.
SO THE WATER AND THE WASTEWATER FUNDS THAT PAY FOR THIS HAVE A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE CASH FUND WASTEWATER, INTERCEPTORS, MAJOR WATERLINE IMPROVEMENTS, RIGHT? JUST A TON OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT, THAT CASH THAT'S VERY PRECIOUS PAYS TO DELIVER.
AND IF WE TOOK THAT CASH AND MADE IT TO PAY DOWN THIS CHEAP INTEREST SO THAT THAT PAYMENT WOULD BE LOWER AND WE'D SAVE ON INTEREST, THEN WE'D FIND OURSELF IN A POSITION WHERE WE'D HAVE TO ISSUE SOME KIND OF DEBT SERVICE DOWN THE ROAD FOR PROJECTS THAT AREN'T SUBSIDIZED BY THE STATE OF TEXAS CREDIT.
RIGHT? SO THIS IS LIKE THE ONE PIECE OF BORROWING THAT IS AT THE HEIGHT OF ALL THE BORROWING WE EVER DO.
THIS IS THE PINNACLE OF LIKE, MOST AFFORDABLE, BEST MONEY THAT WE CAN BORROW.
SO YOU DON'T WANNA PAY DOWN YOUR CHEAP INTEREST.
PVE CAN CONTRADICT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT CAN'T TELL ME IF I'M WRONG.
PER, SHOULD WE PAY THIS ONE DOWN? NO, NO FASTER THAN 30 YEARS.
SO IF WE USE UP ALL OUR CASH FRONT
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AND NOT FINANCE IT, WE WILL BE HAVING TO BORROW FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE MUST HAVE TO DO.ON THE SAME, JUST BUILDING ON WHAT BRIAN WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER, IF WE PAY DOWN THE COST OF ASSETS THAT WILL BENEFIT FUTURE CUSTOMERS OF THE CITY'S WATER UTILITY SYSTEM, YOU ARE BURDENING TODAY'S CUSTOMER WITH THAT BILL, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO THIS WAY WE SPREAD IT OUT OVER THE ECONOMIC USEFUL LIFE OF THAT ASSET WE'RE GOING TO BUILD WITH THIS MONEY.
SO THE, THE EXPENDITURE STREAM MATCHES WITH THE REVENUE STREAM OVER THE TIME, BASICALLY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[39. Consider and Possible Action for staff to implement a "Small Business Launchpad Initiative," working title, to provide much-needed services to Kyle residents who aspire to be small business owners. ~ Bear Heiser, Council Member]
NEXT UP AGENDA ITEM 39.CONSIDER A POSSIBLE ACTION FOR STAFF TO IMPLEMENT A SMALL BUSINESS LAUNCHPAD INITIATIVE WORKING TITLE TO PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED SERVICES TO CALL RESIDENTS WHO ASPIRE TO BE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
UH, I THINK SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN A PRIORITY FOR US ON COUNCIL OVER THE LAST YEAR WAS HOW CAN WE FOSTER SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH IN OUR CITY.
UH, GIVEN THE CITY IS, IS RIPE FOR GROWTH RIGHT NOW.
AND ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND TALKING TO A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, THE HARDEST THINGS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING THAT FIRST STEP AND THE LEAP INTO SMALL BUSINESS OWNERSHIP IS THAT HIGH BARRIER TO ENTRY IS LACK OF EXPERIENCE WITH DOING A LOT OF THE PROCEDURAL ELEMENTS OF, OF STARTING A BUSINESS AND HOW TO NAVIGATE A LOT OF THE RED TAPE.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THEREFORE IT'S, IT DISCOURAGES PARTICIPATION FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO START THEIR THEIR OWN BUSINESSES.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, UH, LATELY, AND UH, YOU KNOW, JUST BASED ON THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD EVERY INDIVIDUAL ON THIS DAIS SAY OVER THE PAST YEAR WAS THAT THE CITY CAN BE DOING, UH, SOMETHING TO HELP SOME OF THESE POTENTIAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO THAT THIS, THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM IS ALL ABOUT, IS TRYING TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW THE CITY CAN CREATE, UM, A RESOURCE CENTER FOR, FOR PEOPLE WHO, FOR RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO START A BUSINESS IN OUR CITY.
UM, SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL IS SOMETHING AS SOME IDEAS THAT WERE THROWN TOGETHER ON WHAT THE CITY COULD, UH, DO IN THEORY, UH, JUST SOME IDEAS FOR US TO KICK AROUND.
AND I, I THINK ULTIMATELY WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GO WITH THIS IS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO FACTOR IN LIKE WHAT CAN STAFF, YOU KNOW, MAKE A COMMITMENT TO EXECUTING.
LIKE WHAT DOES THAT PROGRAM LOOK LIKE? SO I THINK THE THE ASK HERE IS, IS GONNA BE FOR, UM, OR I WOULD HOPE THAT IT IS FOR, FOR BRIAN AND STAFF TO, TO GIVE US, UM, UH, SOME OPTIONS AS TO WHAT, WHAT HE, HE AND HIS TEAM CAN, UM, PROVIDE IN TERMS OF RESOURCES, TIME, HOW MUCH MONEY IT'LL COST, THE CITY, ET CETERA.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THE PROPOSAL? MAYOR, COUNCILOR RIZZO? JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU COUNCILOR HEISER FOR THINKING ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES.
UH, DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.
SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF A LOT OF CITIES AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT.
UM, THEY'RE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT NUMBERS.
THEY'RE KNOWN BY THEIR NAMES AND THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH THE OWNERS OF THESE SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO THEY'RE TREATED WITH A LOT OF RESPECT.
UH, ALSO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A CITY, WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF NOW OVERBURDENING OUR SMALL BUSINESS DISEASE.
THEY'RE NOT PUT IMPLEMENTING, UH, IMPACT FEES OR REGULATIONS THAT ADD BURDENS TO THEM.
SO I, I HOPE WE CONTINUE THAT TREND AS WELL.
BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, CUSTOMER PARSLEY, IS THIS GONNA BE LIKE A, A DIVISION FOR SMALL BUSINESSES OR ARE WE GONNA OFFER, LIKE, UM, IS THIS ONE-ON-ONE CONSULTATION OR ARE WE, LIKE, ARE WE GONNA HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO THE SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE DIVISION OR TO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER? OR ARE WE THINKING ABOUT GETTING OUR DEPARTMENT TO DO IT
YOU, YOU REMEMBER THE SMALL BUSINESS SYMPOSIUM, UHHUH
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AND, YOU KNOW, THINK OF ALL THOSE RESOURCES THAT VICTORIA AND HER TEAM TALKED ABOUT TO POTENTIAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
THINK OF THAT, BOTTLING THAT UP INTO SOMETHING PROGRAMMATIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOSTING EVENTS POTENTIALLY ON HOW, EDUCATING PEOPLE ON HOW TO GO THROUGH PAPERWORK TO, YOU KNOW, FILE TAX FORMS OR, UH, BUILDING PERMITS, HOW TO DO A BUDGET.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF GAPS THAT I HOPE IF IT'S FEASIBLE THAT, THAT THE CITY ITSELF CAN FILL AND TRY TO HELP LOWER THAT BARRIER TO ENTRY FOR RESIDENTS WHO, YOU KNOW, WANT TO DREAM A DREAM PER SE.
SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO, I'M SO SORRY.
SO IF WE ARE GONNA, SO WHAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION TO START IT OR LIKE TO DIRECT LIKE STAFF TO LOOK INTO WHAT IS WELL, I, I, I THINK WHAT I, I'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER IS JUST A, A, A GENERAL INTEREST IN DOING SOME THINGS TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES AND TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DO SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING TO HELP THEM THROUGH OUR PROCESSES OR OKAY.
UM, PROVIDE GUIDANCE ABOUT DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT THEY MAY BE FACING.
AND I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH EXIST.
EXISTING STAFF, BUT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROGRAMMING AROUND EXACTLY THE, THE TYPES OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO AND HOW WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE LISTED AS JUST POTENTIAL IDEAS OR THINGS THAT I KNOW WE'VE DONE IN DIFFERENT WAYS HERE IN KYLE AND I'VE DONE IN OTHER CITIES THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF, BUT JUST PUTTING SOME MORE, UM, SPECIFICITY AROUND WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, WHAT EVENTS WOULD HAPPEN, AND, AND TRYING TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU GUYS WITH, HERE'S A PROGRAM, HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN MAKING SURE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH US KIND OF GETTING STARTED WITH THAT.
SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN DOING, WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK TO THE TEAM AND THEN BRING YOU BACK SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC TO ACTUALLY ASK, ASK YOU TO VOTE ON.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ADDITIONAL STAFF, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW.
COUNCILOR HARRIS SMALL BUSINESS INC.
INCUBATORS, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT THIS IS, UM, ARE REALLY SUCCESSFUL IN CITIES.
UM, I'VE SEEN SOME EXAMPLES WHERE IT'S REALLY CREATED OPPORTUNITIES AND NEW BUSINESS FOR THE CITY.
I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
UM, AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE STAFF DRIVEN BY THE CITY.
UH, THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THE EXECUTIVE SERVICE CORPS THAT, AND VOLUNTEERS WITHIN THE CITY THAT OFFER THEIR EXPERTISE.
SO IT CAN BE PUT TOGETHER FOR VERY LITTLE MONEY, UM, AND UNDER CITY DIRECTION, UH, PROVIDE MAYBE SOME FACILITY FOR THAT.
BUT I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
MAYOR PROTON, YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
'CAUSE HERE'S AN IDEA, UM, BRIAN, OR IS WE CAN START WITH GRASSROOTS, WITH JUST STARTING OFF WITH LIKE A TOWN HALL MEETING OR JUST ON A SATURDAY OR, OR AN EVENING, AND INVITE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, INDIVIDUALS FROM BUSINESS TECHS EXPERTS TO STARTING YOUR OWN BUSINESS TO ALL THE, THE ISSUES THAT COMES ALONG OR THE PROCESSES THAT COMES WITH FILING APPLICATIONS.
AND YOU CAN MAKE IT LIKE, START OFF BY SAYING, AGAIN, ANYBODY INTERESTED IN STARTING A SMALL BUSINESS COME TO THIS SESSION, SPONSORED BY THE CITY OF KYLE, AND GET THAT INFORMATION THERE ON WHAT IT TAKES TO GET, NUMBER ONE, HOW TO FORMULATE A BUSINESS PLAN.
WHAT ARE THE TAX CODES? WHAT ARE, UH, WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF HIRING AN EMPLOYEES? IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF EMPLOYEE TAX, THEY'RE GONNA COME ALONG WITH IT.
AND YOU CAN ALSO INVO INVOLVE THE ECONOMIC TOURISM BOARD THAT WE HAVE.
YOU KNOW, HAVE THEM GET INVOLVED AND GIVE THEIR INPUT AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY, AND THEN GO FROM THERE.
YOU CAN JUST BUILD THAT KIND OF NETWORK, UH, SCENARIO.
AND THEN YOU CAN BUILD FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU CAN BRING OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE IN OUR CITY AND HOW WE CAN, UM, AND MAYBE FROM OTHER CITIES TO COME IN AND GET SOME IDEAS.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THAT END.
AND, AND JUST, 'CAUSE AGAIN, IF I WANTED TO START A SMALL BUSINESS, OF COURSE WE HAVE THAT DREAM, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE FACTORS THAT COME IN PLAY WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM RENT TO LEASE TO TAXES, TO EMPLOYEE TAX, EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU KNOW? SO I THINK IT'S JUST THAT KIND OF THING AND ENCOURAGING THAT KIND OF, UM, CONVERSATIONS AND EVEN JUST HAVING IT HERE AT CITY HALL AND JUST INVITING ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED AND THEN STARTING FROM THERE.
EVEN, EVEN SOME OF THE KIDS, THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS THAT GOT SMALL BUSINESSES OUT THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF 'EM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT JUST GO AROUND AND, UH, MOW GRASS, BUT THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST HELPING THAT KIND OF DEAL.
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MY COMMENTARY ON IT IS, I, I THINK IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, THESE, THESE THREE BIG DEALS THAT WE VOTED ON TONIGHT, BECAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE FLOW OF HOW BUSINESSES ARE COMING TO THE CITY THROUGH THESE DEVELOPMENT DEALS.YOU'VE GOT 30 PEOPLE IN A ROOM WORKING ON THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS OVER THE COURSE OF ONE AND TWO AND THREE YEARS.
THEY FINALLY GET ALL THESE AGREEMENTS PUT TOGETHER.
THEY MASTER PLAN SOMETHING, AND THEN THEY'VE GOT AN ENTIRE TEAM WHO GOES OUT TO THESE MAJOR CORPORATE RETAILERS, ALL OF THEM EXPERTS LAWYERED UP, NEGOTIATING MAJOR LEASES, LONG TERM CREDIT DEALS, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND THEN THEY'RE OPERATING.
AND AS THEY'RE COMING THROUGH CITY HALL FOR THEIR PERMITS, I MEAN, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING HERE ARE PROFESSIONALS WHO, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO, IS THEY APPLY FOR AND RECEIVE PERMITS FROM THE CITY.
WORK WITH STAFF THAT IS SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE TRYING TO START SOMETHING UP.
THEY'RE COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF THAT FLOW.
AND I KNOW THAT FROM EXPERIENCE, 'CAUSE I SAT LITERALLY IN THOSE CHAIRS TRYING TO DO A SMALL BUSINESS, UH, AND IT LIKE NEARLY COST ME MY LIFE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE DONE ANYTHING AS STRESSFUL AS, AS ON A COUNCIL OR AS MAYOR IS WHAT I EXPERIENCED TRYING TO GET PERMITS TO START A SMALL BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND I, UH, DIDN'T, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
SO I THINK THE PROGRAM YOU'RE PROPOSING REALLY TRIES TO ADDRESS RIGHT ON THOSE ISSUES TO HELP FOLKS GET THE RESOURCES THEY NEED, UH, WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO START UP SOMETHING SMALL.
SO I'M ALSO JUST COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO TREAT SMALL BUSINESSES WITH A LOT OF RESPECT AND ALSO GIVE THEM HELP BECAUSE THEY DO NOT, THEY'RE NOT A PART OF THAT FLOW.
UM, THAT'S BRINGING LOTS OF GREAT BUSINESS TO THE CITY.
UH, BUT IT, IT CAN BE PREJUDICIAL AGAINST THOSE WHO AREN'T NA, NATIONWIDE CHAINS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I ALSO WANNA ADD, UH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS, UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.
UM, YEAH, I, I DO LIKE THE ASPECT OF EDUCATION WORKSHOPS AND MAYBE LIKE IN SOME WAY WE HAVE SMALL, SMALL CLASSES LIKE, UH, ACCOUNTING CLASSES OR BUDGETING CLASSES, UM, JUST HELPING THESE SMALL BUSINESSES WHO MAY NOT KNOW YET, LIKE, HOW DO THEY GET THROUGH THESE, THESE TYPES OF, UH, BARRIERS.
HOW DO YOU FIND FINANCING? 'CAUSE THAT, I'VE SEEN THAT S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HOLD BACK A ENTREPRENEUR IS GETTING THAT CAPITAL.
SO HOW DO YOU FIND THAT MONEY AND, UM, HOW DO YOU MANAGE THE PAPERWORK? RIGHT? SO THESE KIND OF CLASSES, I THINK, UH, WOULD BE INTERESTING TO THE PUBLIC, ANYBODY WHO, WHO'S OUT THERE WHO MIGHT WANT TO SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN.
AND, UM, HAVING SEMINARS AND BRINGING IN, UM, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, HAVE THEM TALK, BUT JUST HAVE THAT KIND OF ASSISTANCE WOULD BE, WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I JUST WANNA SAY ONE LAST THING.
UM, SPOON AND FORK IS A NEW RESTAURANT THAT OPENED A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, AND I HONESTLY HAVEN'T HEARD A SINGLE BAD THING ABOUT IT FROM ANY RESIDENT WHO'S, UH, OR A FACEBOOK POST ANYTHING.
UM, AND SHORTLY AFTER THEY OPENED, I WAS TALKING TO THE OWNER AND, UH, SHE SPENT FIVE MINUTES, UH, JUST PRAISING LAUREN LYONS FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, UP AND DOWN SAYING HOW HELPFUL SHE WAS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT EXIST THAT EXISTED FOR THIS SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
AND, YOU KNOW, SEEING SOMEONE STAND IN FRONT OF ME AND TELL ME HOW IMPACTFUL SOMEONE ON CITY STAFF WAS AND HOW, UH, ABOVE AND BEYOND THEY WENT TO BE SUPPORTIVE, LIKE THAT IS THE EXAMPLE THAT I HOPE WE ALL CAN TRY TO SET, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING WITH SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, SO, UH, ANYONE ELSE WANNA SAY ANYTHING? IF NOT, WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE I THINK WE ARE REALLY GOOD AT HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURS, WHAT WE'RE NOT GOOD IS BRANDING THAT INITIATIVE AND GETTING THAT WORD OUT.
AND SO, WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING WILL AT LEAST INCORPORATE IS HELPING US TO REALLY GET OUR FOOTING AROUND THE IDEA OF BRANDING OURSELVES AS SMALL BUSINESS FRIENDLY WITH RESOURCES AND LIKE, AND, AND REALLY PUTTING THAT OUT, UH, AS A PART OF ONE OF OUR CORE, UH, COMPETENCIES, UH, AS A, AS A, AS AN ORGANIZATION.
SO IS THAT SIMILAR TO THE WAY YOU'RE SEEING THIS? SO, I, I, WHEN I DID MINE, IT WAS FIRST YEAR ON US, THE ACRONYM TURNED INTO F YOU.
AND SO THAT, UH, MAYBE, MAYBE WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE MORE ON IT, RESEARCH ON THAT BRANDING, BUT IT WAS QUITE, QUITE FUNNY.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT.
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SURE.UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, ASK STAFF, BRIAN AND STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER A FRAMEWORK FOR A SMALL, UH, KYLE, UH, SMALL BUSINESS INITIATIVE PROGRAM, UH, THAT'S DESIGNED TO HELP SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WILL DIRECT STAFF, UH, TO BRING BACK THE, UH, SMALL BUSINESS LAUNCH PATH LAUNCHPAD INITIATIVE, UH, AND FRAMEWORK FOR WORKING TITLE GROWTH WORKING TITLE.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[40. A Resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas, Amending Resolution Number 1366 and Restating the City of Kyle Rules of City Council, Providing for Meetings, Agenda, Council Proceedings, Reconsideration of Agenda Items; Parliamentary Procedure, Debate, Decorum, and Citizen Participation at Meetings; Making Findings of Fact; and Providing for Related Matters. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
[41. Discussion and possible action to hold a moment of silence after the pledge of allegiance for personal invocation or prayer. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]
ITEMS 40 AND 41, UH, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, AMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 1366.AND RESTATING THE CITY OF KYLE'S RULES OF CITY COUNCIL, PROVIDING FOR MEETINGS, AGENDA, COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS, RECONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEMS, PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, DEBATE, DECORUM AND CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AT MEETINGS, UH, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 41, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO HOLD UP MOMENT OF SILENCE AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR, UH, PERSONAL INVOCATION OR PRAYER.
UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY CHARTER DECLARES THAT THIS, UH, REQUIRES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, CREATE, UH, A RULE, UH, BOOK THAT WE FOLLOW, AND THAT WE RECONSTITUTE AND REAFFIRM, UH, THE RULES AND PROCEEDINGS OF OUR OWN MEETINGS, UH, ONCE EVERY YEAR AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEMBER OF ANY ELECTION IS SWORN IN.
UH, THAT HAPPENED, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT EARLIER WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, UH, NOW JOINING.
SO I WANT TO, UH, PER THE CHARTER, BRING THE RULES OF COUNCIL UP, UH, AND ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY HAS A SPECIFIC PROPOSAL ON THE RULES OF COUNSEL THAT THEY WANNA MAKE.
SO, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO GO FIRST? I I HAVE A COUPLE, COUPLE, LIKE, PROCEDURAL THINGS THAT I WANT TO DISCUSS, BUT I JUST WANT TO DEFER TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO GO OFF THE TOP OR IF YOU WANNA GO LATER.
SO, UM, WHEN SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION, I FIND MYSELF SOMETIMES ALWAYS WANTING TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE THAT MOTION.
SO HOW DO WE AVOID THAT? SO WITHOUT ME THEN MAKING AN AMENDMENT AND THEN DE DELAYING THE WHOLE PROCESS HERE, WHERE NOW WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE FIRST ONE, LISTEN TO MY AMENDMENT ALL BECAUSE MAYBE I HAD A COMMENT OR TWO THAT MIGHT BE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD'VE WANTED THAT INFORMATION.
OR MAYBE THERE WAS IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO JUMP IN BEFORE WE GOT A LITTLE BIT TOO, WELL BEFORE WE GOT AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
AND THE MOTION'S MADE MOTION'S ALREADY HERE AND NOW WE'RE VOTING ON IT, OR, OR THE MOTION'S ALREADY THERE.
AND NOW IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ISN'T GONNA CHANGE OR HAVE BE AS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT INITIAL MOTION.
WELL, THE, THE MOTIONS AND THE AMENDMENTS IS SORT OF PART OF THE GAME WE PLAY.
SO, BUT THE, THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS THAT IF YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, UH, IF YOU'RE PROPERLY RECOGNIZED, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A MOTION.
SO THE WAY THAT IT REALLY SHOULD WORK IS THAT THE ITEM IS INTRODUCED AND PRESENTED, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY THERE'S A MOTION MADE, OTHERWISE WE DON'T TAKE UP THE ITEM.
NOW, THAT'S NOT A RULE THAT WE FOLLOW, BUT THE WAY THAT RULES OF COUNSEL GENERALLY WORK IS THAT THE, UH, THE, IT LITERALLY STATES THAT INITIALLY WHEN THE ITEM IS BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT ARE OF A FACT FINDING NATURE ARE TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD IN DISCUSSION.
AND THEN THE DEBATE PORTION IS SUPPOSED TO COME AFTER A MOTION IS MADE.
'CAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DEBATING IN, IN SUPPOSED TO BE DEBATING IS THE ACTUAL MOTION, UH, AT HAND.
SO, UH, IF YOU WANTED TO TRY TO MAKE, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO SAY THAT A MOTION CAN'T BE MADE UNTIL EVERYONE HAS BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, THAT COULD BE A WAY TO HANDLE IT.
UM, BUT I, I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE NECESSARILY IN FAVOR OF THAT JUST BECAUSE WE ALL, YOU KNOW, MAKING A MOTION AT A PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME IS STRATEGIC FOR, FOR EVERYONE WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY MAKE IT.
IT'S ALSO BEEN USED IN A WAY THAT'S BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO SOME SOMETHING THAT I WANTED, BUT IT'S PART OF THE GAME IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
I HAVE TO CALL FOR A SECOND, UM, AND ALLOW, IF THERE'S NO SECOND, THEN THE MOTION FAILS AND THEN WE CAN PROCEED WITH DISCUSSION.
BUT IF THERE IS A SECOND, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO CALL THE VOTE IMMEDIATELY.
SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA GET YOUR CHANCE TO, UM, MAKE YOUR ARGUMENTS IN CLAIMS. AND THERE HAVE BEEN EXAMPLES THAT I CAN GIVE JUST IN THE LAST FEW MEETINGS WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN MOTIONS ON THE TABLE, AND THEN AFTER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION, THE MOTIONS HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN OR AMENDED BASED ON THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION.
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AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHERE I WILL SAY A YES VOTE, BUT I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE PRICE.AND A LOT OF THIS IS LIKE WITH DESIGNS OR, UH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS BIG DESIGN MADE THAT'S THREE, $400,000.
BUT I'LL SAY YES, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, THING WE NEED, BUT I'M JUST NOT SOLD ON A LOT OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGNS.
HOW DO I BREAK THAT AND MAYBE SAY, YES, BUT WITH PROTEST AND I'M PROTESTING LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY? WELL, YOU, YOU GET THE, YOU GET THE FLOOR, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR HUGE DESIGN FEES.
WELL, THE ONLY WAY FOR YOU NOT TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY IS FOR THE QUESTION TO BE CALLED.
THAT'S WHAT SHUTS DOWN DEBATE AND IS THE MECHANISM WE USE TO, TO STOP US FROM SAYING.
SO, IF YOU WANNA SAY YOUR PIECE ON ANY PARTICULAR VOTE MM-HMM.
UNLESS THE DEBATE HAS EXTENDED TO THE POINT WHERE THE COUNCIL IS READY TO VOTE AND SOMEONE PROPERLY CALLS THE QUESTION, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL.
BECAUSE IF WE, IF WE LOOK AT A LOT OF THE SPENDING ON THAT COMES, A LOT OF IT IS A LOT OF IT'S DESIGN FEES AND IT'S ONLY DESIGNS.
AND THAT'S FOR MANY, MANY ITEMS. OKAY.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE IN, AND THEN THAT'S NOT EVEN SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE.
WELL, THAT WOULD, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING SKETCHED THAT WOULD BE AND DRAFTED.
WELL, ON THAT NOTE THERE, ZUNIGA, THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD STATE IN YOUR VOTE.
YOU COULD SAY, I SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I MAY NOT LIKE THAT, UH, THE, THE, THE NUMBERS, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND SO FORTH.
SO IF YOU WANT TO BE ON RECORD BY SAYING, I DON'T REALLY CARE MUCH FOR THE DESIGN CONCEPTS AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT I DO SUPPORT THE OVERALL MISSION OF WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS, YOU CAN DO IT IN THAT SENSE.
'CAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU SAY, I SUPPORT IT, BUT ARE YOU REALLY FULLY IN SUPPORT OF IT? RIGHT, THEN THAT WOULD BE A NO.
IF YOU GOT ANY KIND OF RESERVATION, THAT WOULD BE A NO.
IF YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORTING AN ITEM, THEN YOU WOULD SAY, I, THAT THAT'S HOW I WOULD DO IT.
SO IT'S THIS, I KNOW IT'S A CONFLICT LIKE, WELL, I THINK WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT TOO MUCH MONEY, BUT THEN AGAIN, I DO SUPPORT WHERE WE'RE GOING, BUT THE MAYOR IS CORRECT.
WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION AND SOMEBODY SECONDS IT, YOU STILL HAVE THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION TO VOICE YOUR OPINION OR MAKE YOUR STATEMENT.
IT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT IT, IT'S JUST THAT ACCORDING TO HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT ALL THIS TIME, AFTER HE READS THE AGENDA ITEM, IF IT'S SOMEBODY THAT'S PRESENTING IT, THEN OF COURSE MAYOR MITCHELL WOULD SAY, OKAY, I'M OPENING IT UP FOR ANY DISCUSSION VERSUS START STATING WITH THE MOTION.
SO THE MOTION CAN ALWAYS COME RIGHT AFTER THAT AND SOMEBODY SECOND IT, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THE DISCUSSIONS CAN GO AND PLAY ON THAT END.
WELL, JUST AS A, AS AN ASIDE, MY MY GOAL IS ALWAYS TO BE PREDICTABLE, RIGHT? SO DO WE FOLLOW EVERY SINGLE LETTER OF ROBERT'S RULES? NO.
BECAUSE THE RULES OF COUNSEL SUPERSEDE ROBERT'S RULES.
BUT DO WE FOLLOW EVERY SINGLE THING THAT EVEN THE RULES OF COUNSEL STATE? NOT EXACTLY.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR CHANCE, OR THAT YOU'RE NOT THINKING, OH, HE'S ABOUT TO CALL THE VOTE AND I'M NOT GONNA HAVE HAD MY CHANCE TO SPEAK.
SO, UH, I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I, I FEEL, UH, THAT OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS HAVE BEEN VERY EFFICIENT, VERY CORDIAL, ESPECIALLY OF LATE.
WE'VE BEEN GETTING THROUGH AN, AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS, UH, WITH, UH, WITH KIND OF A SURPRISING EFFICIENCY OF LATE.
SO I'M NOT REALLY TRYING TO PROPOSE ANY RA RADICAL CHANGES.
'CAUSE I THINK, AND I, I THINK ESPECIALLY LOOKING FORWARD OVER THIS NEXT YEAR, THAT WE ARE GONNA BE EFFICIENT AT GOING THROUGH, UH, AND GETTING A LOT OF OUR BUSINESS DONE, AS WELL AS, UH, MAKING OUR VOICE HEARD, UH, IN A, IN A PRODUCTIVE MANNER.
I JUST, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU START REALLY, IF YOU'RE LIKE NITPICKING ON THE RULES OF COUNCIL, IT'S A, OFTENTIMES IT'S A SIGN THAT THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON.
THERE'S SOME KIND OF STRESS OR, OR DISTRUST, UH, WITHIN THE BOARD.
SO, WITH THAT SAID, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP THAT I'VE HEARD FROM VARIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS AT VARIOUS TIMES IS THAT THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH FOR DOING PROCLAMATIONS, UH, IS A LITTLE BIT STRESSFUL.
AND SOMETIMES THERE'S SITUATIONS WHERE WE'LL HAVE A BUNCH OF PROCLAMATIONS ON ONE AGENDA, OR THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T REALLY DO A LOT OF PROCS, BUT OTHER PEOPLE DO.
AND WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT FEELINGS ABOUT THAT.
AND WE'RE ALWAYS BEING REQUESTED FOR PROCLAMATIONS, MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN WE WANT TO SAY YES TO.
SO MY PROPOSAL WAS GOING TO BE TO LIMIT THE
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AMOUNT OF PROCLAMATIONS THAT ANY INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER CAN PUT FORWARD IN A CALENDAR YEAR, AS A WAY OF, SAY, AS A WAY OF PRIORITIZING, UH, FORCING US TO PRIORITIZE WHAT WE TRULY CARE ABOUT AND WANNA, UH, WANNA MAKE A PROCLAMATION ON.SO MY THOUGHT WAS TO SAY SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THREE OR FOUR, UH, PROCLAMATIONS ARE ALLOWED PER COUNCIL MEMBER PER YEAR, IF THERE ARE SEVEN OF US, IF WE ALL DID FOUR, THAT'S 28.
SO THAT'S MORE THAN ONE PROCLAMATION AT EVERY MEETING.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO STAGE THEM OUT.
YOU CAN PUT ALL FOUR OF THEM, OR ALL THREE OF THEM, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE SAY IN ONE MEETING.
SO THAT WAS ONE THOUGHT AND ONE IDEA.
ANOTHER THOUGHT TOWARDS PROCLAMATIONS MIGHT BE THAT, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE VISIONING WORKSHOP, UH, WE, A PART OF THAT IS WE ALL BRING FORWARD, THESE ARE ALL THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY.
AND WHEN THEY'RE AT, WE ALL DISCUSS 'EM SORT OF AT ONE TIME.
AND CREATIVE PROCLAMATIONS CALENDAR, UH, SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT PROCLAMATIONS THE CITY IS GONNA SUPPORT.
AND WE SORT OF CLOSE THE BOOK ON THE YEAR.
THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
THEY CAN BE, UH, UH, MORE EASILY PREPARED BY STAFF THAT WAY IN ANTICIPATION.
AND THERE'S, UH, THERE'S THIS BIG QUESTION OF LIKE, IS IT A MAYORAL PROCLAMATION? IS IT A COUNCIL PROCLAMATION? IS IT A RESOLUTION? WHICH IS A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT WAY OF HANDLING IT? IS THERE ONE SIGNATURE? IS THERE SEVEN SIGNATURES? UH, WE COULD PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER IN, IN A, IN A SCHEDULE OF PROCLAMATIONS.
AND THEN WHEN WE'RE BRINGING THEM FORWARD, BECAUSE THEY HAVE EVERYONE'S BLESSINGS TO BRING FORWARD THESE PARTICULAR PROCLAMATIONS, UH, THEY CAN COME FORWARD, UH, UH, AS BEING PRESENTED AND WRITTEN, UH, AS A COUNCIL PROCLAMATION WITH ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURES ATTACHED.
AND THEN WE'RE ALL BRINGING THEM FORWARD, UH, AS OPPOSED TO, WELL, I WANT TO DO THIS PROCLAMATION, OR THERE'S FIGHTING, OR A DESIRE TO BE A SPONSOR OR CO-SPONSOR ON A PROCLAMATION.
PROCLAMATIONS JUST IN GENERAL SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINGS THAT ARE EASILY SUPPORTED, NOT CONTROVERSIAL.
SO THOSE ARE THE VARIOUS THOUGHTS I HAVE ON PROCLAMATIONS.
IF THERE'S ANY APPETITE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, COUNCILOR HEISER? YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY ON PROCLAMATIONS, I, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH FIVE.
LIKE, I THINK I ONLY DID TWO THIS YEAR, AND I DON'T REALLY FORESEE MYSELF DOING FIVE.
BUT ALSO I, I KNOW THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO A FEW MORE PROCLAMATIONS, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE, I DON'T WANT Y'ALL TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE BEING LIMITED BECAUSE THE INTENTION IS, IS GOOD AND PURE WHEN IT COMES TO PROCLAMATIONS.
SO I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH SOMETHING LIKE WITH FIVE.
UH, BUT I, I ALSO, WITH THAT SAID, LOVE THE IDEA OF SITTING DOWN DURING THE, THE VISIONING WORKSHOP AND, AND LOOKING AT, UH, CREATING A CALENDAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE AWAY TWO OF MY PROCLAMATIONS, YOU KNOW, IF IT MEANT THAT ONE OF Y'ALL GOT TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TIME COMES, IF THERE'S SOMETHING COMES UP AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NEW INTEREST OR THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING.
I JUST THINK OF IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF LIKE, FOR THE LONGEST TIME, I WAS THE ONE WHO SPONSORED THE HAYES CALDWELL WOMEN'S SHELTER AND OR CENTER.
THEY DO TWO, A COUPLE, THEY DO HUNGER AND SEXUAL ASSAULT.
AND I SPONSORED THOSE FOR YEARS.
UH, AND THEN ONE DAY THE, SOMEONE CAME IN AND SAID, I WANNA SPONSOR THAT ITEM.
AND OF COURSE, I WAS HAPPY TO DO THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DIDN'T WANT MY SUPPORT FOR THAT ORGANIZATION TO BE NOT NOTICED.
AND SO FOR ME, IT WAS KIND OF A, WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT NOW IS LIKE, HOW DO WE FIND A WAY TO GET ALL OF US BEHIND THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE CARE ABOUT? MM-HMM.
SOME OF THEM ARE MORE OF AN OUTLIER, BUT THERE'S SOME STAPLE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.
AND I WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO BE MORE OF A UNIFIED PRESENTATION ON THOSE SO THAT WE CAN ALL PARTICIPATE, WE CAN ALL RECEIVE, UH, CREDIT AND, AND SO THAT JENNIFER CAN HAVE MORE TIME KNOWING THESE ARE WHEN THE PROCLAMATIONS ARE COMING FORWARD AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE SPONSORED AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE WRITTEN.
I, I THINK THAT'S, UM, LOOKING FORWARD IN, IN MOVING FORWARD IN, IN, IN, IN A NEW YEAR.
UM, I, I DO LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE IT'S NOT, SO, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF US WILL HAVE OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL PREFERENCES, BUT IF WE SOMEHOW MAKE IT UNIFIED AS A CITY, OKAY.
AND THEN HAVE THE CITY KNOWING THAT THE CITY'S GOING TO BRING A PROCLAMATION REC, UH, LET'S SAY RECOGNIZING BLACK HISTORY MONTH OR, UH, OR POLICE WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S INDIVIDUALIZED, IT'S ONE THING.
BUT IF WE HAD SOMETHING STRUCTURED TO WHERE EVERY YEAR THAT THE CITY WILL BRING FORWARD THIS PROCLAMATION, IT'S REPRESENTING ALL OF US VERSUS AN INDIVIDUAL BRINGING IT'S, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHO'S GONNA DO CIN DE MAYO? OR DO WE NEED TO DO DCA? OR SOME PEOPLE MAY WANNA DO 4TH OF JULY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES THAT WE HAVE? AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
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YOU SAID, PUT ON ON, MAYBE LOOK AT HIS CALENDAR AND IF THE PERSON THAT WOULD NORMALLY READ IT OUT, BUT IT'S A CITY SPONSORED PROCLAMATION, THEN THEY CAN CHOOSE WHO'S GOING TO, WHO, WHO WOULD WANNA READ IT OUT OUT LOUD OR JUST IN THAT, OR THE CITY READS IT OUT.SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE WANT TO DO THIS? ARE WE GONNA GO THROUGH IDEA BY IDEA AND MAKE A MOTION FOR THE INDIVIDUAL RECOMMENDATIONS, OR THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN.
MAKE A DECISION ON THIS, THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANNA, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE VISITING WORKSHOP.
UH, ROBERT, DID YOU WANNA JUMP IN WITH ANY FEEDBACK? 'CAUSE I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, YEAH, I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE AT THE VISITING WORKSHOP.
UH, UH, I'M WORRY ABOUT LIMITING.
UH, I KNOW TIME IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT MAKING SURE WE DON'T HAVE LONG DRAWN OUT PROCLAMATIONS.
UH, SO, UH, MAKING SURE WE, WE ARE NOT, UH, GOING UP THERE AND READING A BOOK, RIGHT? JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE WHAT'S A PROCLAMATION THAT TOUCHES ON WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE SUBJECT ITEM IS.
AND, AND GOING THROUGH IT, MAKING SURE IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE COULD BENEFIT MORE.
UH, MAYOR, SO DOES THAT NEED TO GO INTO A MOTION THEN? BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GONNA RULES LIMIT THE NUMBER IN, IN THE IN COUNCIL RULES, AND WE'RE GONNA TABLE THAT CONVERSATION UNTIL THE VISIONING WORKSHOP, THEN WOULD THE MOTION BE TO, WELL, SO, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THERE, IF THERE'S A MOTION, IF WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION AT THE VISIONING WORKSHOP.
WELL, IF WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THE IDEA, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
ONE IS LIMITING INDIVIDUALS TO A NUMBER, AND THEN EVERYONE CAN SORT OF MAKE THOSE DECISIONS INDIVIDUALLY AND BRING FORWARD THEIR OWN PROCLAMATIONS AND DO THEIR OWN WRITING FOR THOSE PROCLAMATIONS.
OR THE SECOND PROPOSAL IS FOR AT ONCE A YEAR WE CREATE A CO A PROCLAMATION SCHEDULE WHERE ALL THE PROCLAMATIONS FOR THE COMING YEAR ARE LINED OUT.
AND THEN THEY WILL COME FORWARD ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT A COUNCIL SPONSOR, BECAUSE THAT'LL BE SOMETHING WE'VE ALL AGREED TO.
UH, AND, AND THEN ALSO IT'S SORT OF A CLOSED, CLOSED BOOK.
LIKE THIS IS THE YEAR FOR THIS YEAR.
THESE ARE ALL THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD.
AND THEN PROCLAMATIONS ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INDIVIDUALLY SPONSORING IN ADDITION TO THOSE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT YEAH.
AS A, I GOT THIS, THEN YOU JUST NEED A MOTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO, OKAY.
SO JUST PREFACING, UH, THE EVENTUAL MOTION, UH, I AM FULLY IN FAVOR OF, OF HAVING CITY SPONSORED PROCLAMATIONS.
LIKE I DID NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BUT I KNOW THAT ALL SEVEN OF US LOVE WHAT NATIONAL NIGHT OUT DOES FOR OUR CITY.
THERE'S NO REASON THAT I NEED TO BE SPONSORING THAT BY MYSELF.
SO USING THAT AS THE, AS THE EXAMPLE, UH, I THINK THAT'S, I LOVE THAT IDEA OF, OF FINDING, UH, OF COLLABORATING ON, UH, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ON A CALENDAR.
SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO PREFACE THAT SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE THIS MOTION IS COMING FROM.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO LIMIT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RESOLUTIONS OR PROCLAMATIONS TO FIVE PER CALENDAR YEAR.
THAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW.
WHAT I, I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIMITING AND THEN WE, US CALENDARIZING AND HAVING CITY SPONSORED ONES WOULD MAKE THE LIMITATION OF FIVE.
BECAUSE THE CITY'S GONNA PULL SOME OF THEM, UH, SOME OF THE ONES, BUT YOU WANNA DO BOTH.
SO THERE'D BE, IN YOUR MIND, THERE WOULD BE AN ENTIRE SCHEDULE OF ALL THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA BRING FORWARD AS THE CITY.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, EVERYONE GETS FIVE MORE.
NO, I MEAN, I'D RATHER JUST DO THE FIRST, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ASK BEFORE, IS IF WE EVEN NEED A MOTION.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA AMEND RULES OF COUNSEL.
IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD JUST BE, SO THE TREATING THIS AS A NORMAL AGENDA ITEM, IF LIKE A MONTH FROM NOW WE WANTED TO PUT THIS UP THERE FOR STAFF TO CREATE A CALENDAR FOR PROCLAMATIONS.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE FORMALIZED IN THE RULES OF COUNSEL.
WHAT YOU COULD SAY IS THE MOTION WOULD BE TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO STATE THAT THE PROCESS FOR BRINGING FORWARD PROCLAMATIONS SHALL HAPPEN ONCE PER YEAR AS A PART OF A COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL APPROVED CALENDAR OF PROCLAMATIONS.
CAN I ADD TO THAT? SO IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT PER CALENDAR YEAR AND THEY'RE GONNA COME FROM THE CITY, THEN MY REQUEST WILL BE FOR CITY STAFF TO READ A PROCLAMATION, NOT A COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO NO INDIVIDUAL PROCLAMATIONS WILL COME FROM US.
THEY WILL COME FROM THE CITY OF KYLE THAT WON'T BE READ BY A STAFF MEMBER IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
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I'M NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M PUSHING FOR.I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME UNIFORMITY.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED EITHER.
BUT IF, IF WE'RE TRYING TO, TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PROCLAMATIONS AND THE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE DEBATE AND WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT PROCLAMATION, THEN I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN SIT DURING THE VISION AND WORKSHOP AND DECIDE WHAT PROCLAMATIONS WE WANNA BRING FORWARD AND THEN LET STAFF DO IT.
STAFF'S NOT GONNA HELP US WITH THIS DISCUSSION.
WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA RESOLVE THIS ONE ON OUR OWN.
THEY'RE JUST GONNA WAIT FOR US TO DECIDE ON HOW WE WANNA DO IT.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA JUST JUMP INTO, YEAH.
SO NOW I, I DO LIKE THE, GO AHEAD.
COUNCIL, WE GOT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF MA OF CREATING A MASTER LIST OF THE ONES THAT WE KNOW THERE ARE ALWAYS COMING EVERY YEAR AND JUST PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER AND SOMEHOW, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME NIGHTS WHERE WE HAD THREE OR FOUR IN ONE NIGHT, RIGHT? THERE'S SOME MONTHS WHERE, AND SOMETIMES THEY CAN STACK UP.
SOME NIGHTS STILL BE NOTHING AND OTHER NIGHTS, AND THAT'S OKAY.
AND, AND I THINK I JUST NEED MORE DETAILS OF, OF HOW WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE, THE READINGS.
UM, I DO FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES, UM, THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I'M ALSO NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING CITY STAFF READING.
SO THAT'S THE SAME THING AS LIKE, OKAY, WHO'S GONNA DO A PROCLAMATION IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS READING IT? CHANCES ARE THEN IT IS COMING FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I, I THINK ONE THING I COULD OFFER AS, AS POTENTIAL HELP, UH, FOR THE SITUATION IS WE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PROCLAMATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BY THE COUNCIL THIS PAST YEAR AND MAYBE THE LAST TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THAT.
THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF SIMILAR ONES THAT HAPPEN EVERY YEAR, AS YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT.
PULL THOSE OUT AND SAY BEYOND THAT, HERE'S SOME ONES THAT WE THINK WOULD BE KIND OF ONES THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE EVERY YEAR.
AND BEYOND THAT, WHAT ARE ADDITIONAL ONES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS OF THE NUMBERS OF WHETHER IT'S 4, 5, 3, WHATEVER THE NUMBERS MIGHT BE THAT YOU'D WANT TO LIMIT IT TO.
I COULD BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU, PERHAPS IN THE VISIONING WORKSHOP AND SEE WHAT YOU WANT TO WANT TO DO WITH IT AFTER YOU SAW THE NUMBERS.
SO JUST OFFER THAT FOR FOOD FOR THOUGHT AS YOU'RE THINKING THROUGH IT.
UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY WE CAN.
WELL, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
'CAUSE I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO CREATE A CALENDAR AND PULLING OUT PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.
BUT I ALSO WOULD, LIKE ANY ONE OF US UP HERE WOULD LIKE TO, GETS INVOLVED WITH A NEW CAUSE OR, YOU KNOW, A NEW GROUP POPS UP AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM SOME PRAISE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ABILITY EXISTS AND IT'S NOT DECIDED IN, UH, A VISION AND WORKSHOP IN, IN FEBRUARY.
BUT ALSO, I AGREE, I AGREE WITH THAT.
SO, SO WE'RE NOT JUST GONNA SIT IN SILENCE FOR ANY LONGER.
I'M GONNA EMBARRASS MYSELF ONE MORE TIME WITH THIS ONE.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL FOR, FOR COUNSEL TO CREATE A PROCLAMATION CALENDAR DURING THE VISIONING WORKSHOP ONCE PER CALENDAR YEAR.
ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL PROCLAMATIONS TO FOUR PER CALENDAR YEAR.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
WE WILL HAVE SECOND MADE BY COUNCILOR HEISER, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO.
UH, THAT WE CREATE A MASTER LIST OF PROCLAMATIONS THAT STAFF PRODUCES THAT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD.
UH, AND THEN, UM, UH, AND SPONSORED BY THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, EACH COUNCIL.
AND WHAT CAN WE ADD TO THAT? THAT THE MASTER LIST WILL BE READ BY STAFF.
THAT'S WHERE THE EXTRA FOUR, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO BAKE IN THE EXTRA ONES, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO, I'M SURE THERE WILL THINGS THAT WILL COME UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WELL, IF THE GOAL WAS TO LIMIT OR SORT OF TRY TO HAVE SOME KIND OF BOUNDARIES AROUND PROCLAMATIONS, WHICH IS MY GOAL, WE'RE GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
SO WE'RE TAKING EVERY PROCLAMATION THAT WE'VE EVER DONE TAKING THAT OFF THE TABLE.
AND THEN WE'RE ADDING A TOTAL OF 28 ADDITIONAL PROCLAMATIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR US ALL TO PRODUCE.
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I DON'T LIKE THAT PROPOSAL.MY GOAL WAS TO TRY TO LIKE, LET'S BRING THIS IN SO THAT WE'RE NOT CONSTANTLY HAVING TO DEAL WITH PROCLAMATIONS UP UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE WHERE THINGS ARE BEING READ THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF THAT THEY'RE BEING, THEY'RE CO-SPONSORING THAT SOMEONE ELSE WROTE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE SOME UNIFORMITY AROUND THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, CAN SOMEONE ELSE TAKE A WHACK AT THIS? 'CAUSE I, I'LL SAY YES TO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
DANIELLE, CAN I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF YOU, UH, SO HONESTLY, LOOK, I'M, I'M GONNA BE HONEST ABOUT THIS.
LOOK, WHEN WE DO A PROCLAMATION, IT'S USUALLY 'CAUSE WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT, WHENEVER WE'RE DOING A PROCLAMATION ON THAT, THE STAFF GONNA HAVE THAT SAME PASSION.
UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE ALL PASSIONATE ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND WE ARE THE ELECTED.
SO IT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT.
LOOK, I I, I PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF LIMITING HOW MANY PROCLAMATIONS PER YEAR THAN, UH, ANYTHING ELSE.
UH, BUT THE OTHER THING IS I DON'T WANNA BURDEN STAFF WITH A LOT MORE WORK.
I MEAN, STAFF IS ALREADY, UH, WORKING REALLY DILIGENT AND HARD TO ADD MORE TO THEIR PLATE.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S KIND OF UNFAIR.
CAN I, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? UM, WHAT ABOUT IF WE DO FIVE INDIVIDUAL PROCLAMATIONS AND ANY ADDITIONAL PROCLAMATION NEEDS TO BE CO-SPONSOR? I, I LIKE THAT IDEA.
WELL, WE STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM OF A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS SPONSORING AN ITEM THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF AND WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE WHATEVER CREDIT IS BEING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROCLAMATION.
THEN THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN, I, I'VE JUST WATCHED IT CAUSE HARD FEELINGS MAYBE A DOZEN TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WHERE ONE PERSON JUMPS THE SPONSOR, UH, PROCLAMATION SOMEONE ELSE WANTED TO AND WASN'T ABLE TO BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS.
'CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE SPONSORED IT TOO FAST AND IT JUST CAUSES HARD FEELINGS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS.
WHAT'S THAT? FIRST COME FIRST SERVE.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY SAD MAKE A MOTION.
IF IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE, WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT ALL AS IS AND JUST LET PEOPLE JUST KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
HONESTLY, WE DO NEED TO LIMIT A LITTLE BIT.
WE, UH, I REMEMBER WATCHING A MEETING, THERE WAS LIKE FOUR PROCLAMATIONS AND THEY, THE, THE MEETING WENT, I THINK THE PROCLAMATIONS TOOK ABOUT 45 MINUTES, UH, REALLY CLOSE TO AN HOUR.
SO THERE IS, THERE IS COST TO LIMIT.
I JUST, I JUST WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD TAKE ONUS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO CREATE, UH, RULES FOR OURSELVES.
WE SHOULD BE COGNIZANT OF HOW MANY PROCLAMATIONS WE'RE DOING FOR A YEAR.
HOW, HOW LONG THE MEETINGS GO.
I, I REALLY THINK WE, WE WOULD, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE SHOULD BE DOING A BETTER JOB OF LIMITING WHAT WE DO.
DO WE SAY FOUR INDIVIDUAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE CO-SPONSOR? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S AN OPTION.
I JUST DON'T WANNA HAVE SEVEN PROCLAMATIONS IN ONE MEETING EVER AGAIN.
NONE, NOTHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR CHANGES ANYTHING ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF WHAT'S COMING.
NOT, IT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
AND IT ALSO DOESN'T LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE BRING FORWARD.
SO THAT'S REALLY NOT, IF WE REALLY DEEP DOWN, WE ALL WANT TO, WE KIND OF LIKE THE JOCKEYING FOR THE PROCLAMATIONS AND WHAT THAT IS.
IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.
WE'VE HANDLED IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS WITH A VARIETY OF PROCLAMATIONS, YOU KNOW, ISSUES AND DRAMA.
BUT GENERALLY WE GET THROUGH IT WITHOUT TOO MUCH PROBLEM.
I'VE NEVER LIKE PERSONALLY EVER BROUGHT FORWARD A PROCLAMATION IN SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS.
THE PROCLAMATIONS THAT I DO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REQUESTED OF ME AND THAT I WOULD AGREE TO ALLOW TO COME FORWARD.
COULD WE, ONE THING WE COULD DO IS MAYBE LIMIT THE PROCLAMATIONS TO TWO PER MEETING AND THEN, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A TIME LIMIT ON THEM.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S ON A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS.
IT'S ALL, IT'S THE, THE SCHEDULE.
CREATING THE ONE CALENDAR SCHEDULE IS THE LEAST EXHAUSTING UNIFORM WAY FOR US TO DO IT.
AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, IF YOU WANT TO ADD A PROCLAMATION, YOU DO IT THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
I WANT TO ADD THIS ONE TO THE LIST THAT WE RA READ AT THIS DATE.
BUT THEN THAT ADDS UP TO LIKE, WE ARE GONNA END UP WITH A PROCLAMATION FOR, I DON'T KNOW, YELLOW SKY DAY.
SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE, WHAT IS EVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE MASTER CALENDAR WOULD BE FOR THAT WE ALL AGREE TO AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT ELIMINATES THE YELLOW SKY DAY AND THE, AND THE, YOU KNOW, PURPLE POLKA.DAY AND THE WHATEVER ELSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHICH AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T, I'M, I'M THIS CLOSE TO MAKING A MOTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE CAN TALK ABOUT TALKING ABOUT PROCLAMATIONS,
SOMEONE IT WAS, IT'S, LOOK, WE DON'T HAVE TO, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR HOW TO PUT SOME ACCOUNTABILITY ON OURSELVES TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PROCLAMATIONS AND ALSO TO SOLVE THE ISSUE OF US POLITICIZING
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IT AMONGST EACH OTHER.THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON IT OR JUST RESCIND THE MOTION? THE MOTION WAS NO, IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILOR RIZZO.
DO YOU JUST WANT RESEND? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTION WAS.
CAN YOU REPEAT IT? I CAN RESEND.
IS THAT AMENABLE TO RESCIND? ALL RIGHT.
SO THE OTHER ITEM THAT I WANTED, UH, TO PROPOSE, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS NOW.
WHAT DID I TELL YOU? WHAT DID I TELL YOU? IT WAS 41.
WHAT HAPPENED TO 41? IT'S NOT THERE YET.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
JUST THAT WHOLE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE LIMITED ITEMS FOR AGENDA ITEMS. OH.
OR WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS, POSSIBLY.
SO I THINK ONE THING THAT, THAT HAS HAPPENED, IT IS NOT HAPPENING SO MUCH IMMEDIATELY RIGHT NOW, BUT IN IN THE PAST IT'S BEEN USED WHERE A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL, SO OUR RULES OF COUNCIL STATE THAT VERY CLEARLY THAT IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO SPONSOR AN ITEM, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CANNOT COMPEL STAFF TO DO WORK AHEAD OF AN INITIAL SPONSORING OF AN ITEM BY A COUNCIL MEMBER.
NOW THAT MAY HOW STAFF HANDLES THAT RULE IS THAT'S REALLY MORE OF A STAFF QUESTION.
THERE'S SOME JUDGMENT IN GRAY AREA THERE.
HOWEVER, WHAT I THINK IS DANGEROUS FOR US TO DO IS TO BRING FORWARD AN ITEM SPONSORED BY THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL TO PROPOSE SOMETHING NEW WITHOUT IT BEING FULLY VETTED BY STAFF AND ASK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE SOME KIND OF ACTUAL DEFINITIVE ACTION ON THAT PROPOSAL.
RATHER, A COUNCIL SPONSORED ITEM SHOULD BE ALWAYS TO DIRECT DISCUSSION STAFF TO BRING BACK A MORE, LIKE IF WE JUST LIKE THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS INITIATIVE, I'D LIKE TO MEMORIALIZE THAT IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL THAT SAYS THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW.
IF YOU WANNA BRING SOMETHING UP AND MAKE A PROPOSAL, YOU CAN DO IT.
BUT YOU'RE LIMITED ON AN INITIAL COUNCIL SPONSORED ITEM.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE LIMITED TO, UH, GIVING DIRECTION TO STAFF TO BRING BACK A MORE ROBUST PLAN OR, OR AN ACTION ITEM DOWN.
THE ANY ACTION ITEMS WOULD COME BACK FROM STAFF ON SECOND READING ON, ON THE SECOND ON THE, AT A AT A TIME OF STAFF'S CHOOSING FRANKLY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN DIRECT IT TO COME BACK I GUESS AT ANY PARTICULAR TIME.
BUT, SO FOR EXAMPLE, EXACTLY LIKE WITH THIS SMALL BUSINESS INITIATIVE, WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND THEN WE GIVE DIRECTION OF STAFF, BUT WE ALSO GIVE IT A TIME LIMIT.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET IT BACK, THEN WE CAN THEN VOTE ON IT THEN.
BECAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS IF I BROUGHT AN AGENDA ITEM REAL QUICK, IF I BROUGHT AN AGENDA ITEM AND IT'S FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE HEARD OF IT.
'CAUSE OF COURSE YOU GOT A QUORUM AND THEN YOU'RE REALLY NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE WHOLE VOTE IS OR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
THIS IS WHAT IT CONFUSES THEM ON.
BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT I, THIS WAS MY IDEA, BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT THIS IS JUST, I WANT EVERYBODY'S FEEDBACK.
SO YOU GOT SEVEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF FEEDBACK AND THEN YOU MAKE A MOTION AND THEY'RE CONFUSED.
SO I THINK WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS YOU BRING A DISCUSSION ITEM UP FRONT AND THEN WE CAN DIRECT STAFF OR WE COULD JUST HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IF WE NEEDED TO BRING IT BACK THE SECOND MEETING FOR THE POSSIBLE ACTION.
BECAUSE IT GIVES AT LEAST TWO WEEKS OF FIGURING OUT WHAT IT IS.
AND THEN IF WE HAVE, IF WE NEED A BACKUP OF MATERIAL, THEN WE CAN HAVE THE BACKUP OF MATERIAL AVAILABLE AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THE VOTE FROM THERE.
'CAUSE I DON'T SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM WOULD BE BY BRINGING IT BACK THE SECOND TIME FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TO BRING IT.
WELL, I WAS, IF WE WERE LOOKING ON THAT, I THINK WHEN IT COMES BACK IT SHOULD COME BACK, UH, FULLY BY STAFF.
SO WHEN STAFF IS READY, SO LET'S SAY THE SMALL BUSINESS INITIATIVE PROGRAM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE MAYBE THEY'RE NOT EVEN REMOTELY READY.
BUT NOW WE'VE GIVEN THEM DIRECTION.
SO IT HAS TO GO INTO THEIR LIST OF PRIORITIES.
SO THEY KNOW THEY HAVE THAT DIRECTION.
AND AT A TIME OF THEIR CHOOSING OR AT A TIME OF OUR CHOOSING, IF WE THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM SUCH PARAMETERS A 30 DAY WINDOW OR WHATEVER.
THEY, THEY CAN BRING IT BACK, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE WHEN IT COMES BACK THE NEXT TIME, IT'S NOT STILL GONNA BE SPONSORED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER.
IN THIS EXAMPLE, IT'S GONNA BE A, A FULL ON BRIAN'S IN CONTROL.
HE'S WORKING WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, RECEIVING HIS DIRECTION, NOT FROM ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT FROM THE ENTIRE STAFF TO ENDORSE, UH, A ONE COUNCIL MEMBER'S PROPOSAL.
BUT AT THAT POINT, IT'S A PART OF STAFF'S WORKFLOW AND WE'RE ALL IN CHARGE OF IT, NOT JUST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO I THINK THAT PROCESS IS A LOT CLEANER AND SMOOTHER FOR STAFF.
AND IT ALSO MAKES ME FEEL GOOD BECAUSE WHEN I CAST THAT VOTE, I KNOW I'M SORT OF PASSING THE BALL OFF TO STAFF AND GIVING THEM DIRECTION TO BRING IT BACK.
SO HOW WILL WE PUT THAT IN THE MOTION THERE? WELL, FOR THIS RIGHT HERE, WHAT, WHAT, HOW DID YOU WANNA GO ABOUT IT? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT AS OUR PROCESS? WELL, THE, THE
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ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT I WORRY ABOUT IS THE, UM, PART WHERE YOU SAID THERE'S NO TIME FRAME.I MEAN, SO WE COULD BRING SOMETHING FORWARD, SAY I BRING FORWARD, UH, WANT COUNSEL TO LOOK AT, UH, UH, SPEED PILLOWS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION STAFF COULD WAIT TWO, THREE YEARS BEFORE THEY BRING THAT BACK.
SO IT'S GOTTA BE SOME KIND OF A TIMEFRAME.
WELL, IT WOULD, SO MY THOUGHTS ARE LIKE, IT DEPENDS ON A PARTICULAR, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS.
SO IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO PUT A PARAMETER, THAT'S ALWAYS WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CODIFY IN THE RULES OF COUNSEL WHEN WE'RE MAKING A MOTION TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO PROCEED WITH A PLAN.
IF WE FEEL COMPELLED FOR A PARTICULAR REASON, TO GIVE THEM A TIMEFRAME AROUND WHICH WE WANT THEM TO BRING BACK A REPORT OR BRING BACK THE ACTION ITEM, WE CAN DO THAT AT ANY POINT IN TIME.
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE READY TO SAY SOMETHING.
YEAH, I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I, I MEAN I, I THINK PUTTING SPECIFIC TIMEFRAMES IN THE RULES OR PROCEDURE, I, I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CONTEXT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE QUEUE, WHAT ARE WE WORKING ON THAT'S COMING FORWARD AND YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO GET YOU IN AND OUT IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME IN A COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, SO, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER WORK THAT'S GOING ON THAT, THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE THAT CONTEXT WITH.
SO I THINK PROVIDED THAT WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LATITUDE OF TRYING TO PUT THAT IN OUR WORK PLAN AND BRING IT BACK IN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, I THINK IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE, THE FRIDAY REPORT AND THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT REPORT, WHEN YOU ASK FOR SOMETHING AS A COUNCIL OR INDIVIDUALLY, WE LOG THAT AND PUT IT ON THAT MATRIX AND WE PUT A DATE OF WHEN WE'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
BUT WE TRY TO BUILD IT INTO THE WORK PLAN.
SO, BUT I THINK TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC ITEM THAT COMES FORWARD AND YOU SAY, WE WANT IT BACK ON JANUARY 2ND AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT, THEN WE WOULD KNOW THAT.
BUT I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IT NOT ALWAYS BE EVERY TIME THEY'RE GONNA BE THE NEXT MEETING.
'CAUSE YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNING.
IN FACT, YOU WON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE PLANNING FOR THE SECOND.
AND, AND I THINK ON THAT NOTE THERE, IF WE DO, LET'S SAY WE MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF FOR THIS OR JUST FOR DISCUSSION THAT WHEN WE BRING IT TO YOU OR WE, WE ASSIGN IT TO WHOEVER THAT THEN, THEN THEY WOULD SAY, YEAH, GIVE US A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR GIVE US A MONTH AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN WE JUST LOOK FORWARD FROM THERE.
WE JUST KNOW ALREADY THAT IT'S GONNA COME WITHIN THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS OR THE NEXT TWO, TWO MEETINGS.
SOME OF THEM MAY BE VERY SIMPLE THAT WE CAN BRING BACK VERY QUICKLY.
SOME MAY TAKE A LEGAL REVIEW, SOME MAY TAKE, UH, A LOT OF DRAFTING, OF PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER.
AND THEN THAT INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER WHO BRINGS THAT FORWARD CAN THEN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU YES, SIR.
BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE, AND WE WILL NOT ALLOW ITEMS TO JUST SIT AND NEVER TO BE FORGOTTEN.
WELL, THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR EMPLOYMENT.
THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR YOU GUYS EITHER.
AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T LIMIT WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO BRING TOWARDS THE AGENDA, I'M GOOD WITH IT.
SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE RULES OF COUNSEL UNDER AGENDA, THE B HEADING 0.1.
UH, TO ADD LANGUAGE THAT, UH, UH, STATES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER SPONSORED ITEMS MAY NOT BE LISTED FOR OFFICIAL ACTION, BUT RATHER TO, UH, BE, UH, GIVEN AS, UH, PRESENTED FOR DIRECTION TO STAFF TO BRING BACK FULL FLESHED ITEMS AT A LATER DATE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
CUSTOMER PARSLEY, YOU WANNA GO? SURE.
YES, BUT IT'S THE YES, BUT YES BUT NO.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU ALL THINK THAT I'M GONNA DO.
SO ON A DAY TO DAY, WE ALL FACE SITUATIONS AND HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND TAKE VOTES THAT AFFECT US AND AFFECT THE LIVES OF ALL THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE.
UM, SOME VOTES ARE EASIER THAN OTHERS.
SOMETIMES WE ARGUE, SOMETIMES WE ALL AGREE AND GET ALONG.
SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE ALWAYS VOTE WITH FACTS AND THAT WE ALWAYS DO WHAT'S BEST FOR KYLE, NOT FOR PERSONAL RECOGNITION.
SO, UM, IF IT WAS UP TO ME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SPONSOR OR ASK FOR A MOMENT OR A PRAYER EVERY, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT I KNOW THAT NOT EVERYBODY SHARES THE SAME BELIEFS, AND I COMPLETELY RESPECT THAT.
UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BRING IN, UH, OR INVITING DIFFERENT PASTORS TO DO A MOMENT OR A PRAYER BEFORE EVERY MEETING.
AND THEN WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN SAN MARCOS.
SO I REALLY WANNA STEER AWAY FROM THAT.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT GETS DONE IN THE SCHOOL WHERE I WORK, IT'S FOR A MOMENT, FIVE,
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10 SECONDS FOR PERSONAL REFLECTION OR PERSONAL PRAYER OR SOUL SEARCHING BEFORE EVERY COUNCIL MEETING.SO WE ALL, UM, ASK TO WHOEVER YOU BELIEVE OR, OR DO WHATEVER INTERNAL, UM, I GUESS, UM, WHATEVER INTERNAL SOUL SEARCHING YOU WANNA DO, UM, BEFORE EVERY MEETING OR AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UM, TO ASK FOR, I DON'T KNOW, FOR, FOR INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO ON THEIR OWN SOME SORT OF PRAYER OR, UM, REFLECTION BEFORE EVERY MEETING.
SO WE MAKE THE BETS THE BEST VOTES THAT WE CAN.
I'M NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE OUT LOUD, IT'S NOT GONNA BE DIRECTED TO ANYONE.
SO THE PROPOSALS TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE BEFORE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
IS THERE COMMENTARY ON THAT PROPOSAL? UH, ROBERTS COUNCILOR RIZZO? YEAH.
UH, IS IT BEFORE THE MEETING OR IS IT AFTER THE PLEDGE? RIGHT, RIGHT AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND I DO WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IT JUST CAME FROM ME.
I KNOW I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME.
I HAVE DISCUSSED IT WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN HERE PLENTY OF TIMES.
BUT WHEN ROBERT CAME BACK, HE MADE MENTION OF IT AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, THIS IS IT.
THIS IS THE SIGN THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS TOGETHER.
AND I KNOW HE, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA CO-SPONSOR THE ITEM WITH ME, AND I LOST IN TRANSLATION.
SO IT WILL BE JUST AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND, AND IT IS REALLY WHAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS JUST A, A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
UM, YOU CAN PRAY, YOU CAN JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO GATHER YOUR THOUGHTS, GET YOUR PAPERS TOGETHER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
IT'S UP TO YOU AS, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, UH, MANDATING ANYONE TO PARTICIPATE IN OR, OR YOU'RE GONNA BE JUDGED IN.
YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS JUST TAKING A MINUTE AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
LOOK, HONESTLY, WE TAKE A LOT OF VOTES IN, IN, IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, I MEAN, ON THE DAAS.
AND PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
AND I KNOW FOR ME IT'S, IT'S JUST TAKING A MINUTE AND JUST PUTTING MYSELF RIGHT AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERY VOTE THAT I TAKE IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF, FOR THE CITIZENS OF KYLE, NOT FOR MYSELF OR ONESELF.
AND I THINK WE'RE ALL THAT WAY.
UH, JUST A SMALL MOMENT OF SILENCE IS PROBABLY, UH, JUST GOOD TO GET YOUR REFLECTION BEFORE YOU GET STARTED IN THE MEETING, RIGHT AFTER THE PLEDGE, I GOT A COMMENT, COUNCILOR THERE.
SO I, I ALSO AGREE WITH, UM, WHAT DANIELLA JUST SAID.
UM, ROBERT, WHEN YOU CAME BACK, I TOLD YOU THAT THERE WAS A RESIDENT THAT WAS REACHING OUT LARRY SIMONE, ABOUT COULD WE HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE? IT'S DONE IN SOME OTHER CITIES AFTER, AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND, UM, WHEN YOU CAME BACK, I SAID, WELL, ROBERT'S REALLY INVOLVED AS WELL WITH ST.
ANTHONY'S, AND, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THIS? AND, UH, I WOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
I THINK THAT WE COULD ALL LOOK FOR, UM, GUIDANCE.
OUR FAITH SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IF WHATEVER YOUR RELIGION IS, THIS IS NOT NO JUDGMENT, BUT I THINK THAT JUST WISHING GOOD HEALTH AND, UM, THE BEST DIRECTION, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE DO TAKE TOUGH VOTES HERE.
VOTES THAT IMPACT NOT JUST THE PEOPLE NOW, BUT THE PEOPLE BEFORE AND AFTER US.
SO, UH, A BRIEF MOMENT TO GATHER YOUR THOUGHTS AND HAVE YOUR MEDITATION.
UM, I THINK THAT WITH ALL THE VIOLENCE AND, AND CRIME NOW IN THE WORLD, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, BENEFICIAL TO TAKE A MOMENT OF PAUSE AND REFLECT ON SOME GOOD THINGS.
AND IF YOU DON'T PRAY, YOU CAN JUST TAKE A DEEP BREATH.
ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS? WELL, UM, SO MY COM WE'VE DONE A MOMENTS OF SILENCE A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES UNDER EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND, AND SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN HAPPY TO DO THOSE.
UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, REALLY CONSIDERED BRINGING RELIGIOUS ELEMENTS TO THE COUNCIL EARLY ON WHEN I WAS IN MY FIRST COUPLE YEARS.
AND, UM, REALLY BEGAN TO SEE THAT THAT IN, AT LEAST FOR MYSELF, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO SUPPORT AS, AS THE BRINGING FORWARD OF SOCIAL AND RELIGIOUS ISSUES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
BUT NO ONE'S EVER ACCUSED ME OF BEING, UH, REALLY FAST TO CHANGE ON A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO I MAY NOT BE IN THE MAJORITY ON THAT, BUT IT'S JUST BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT WE DO BEST WHEN WE KEEP THOSE KIND OF THINGS SEPARATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
I THINK THE PROPOSAL HERE IS A PRETTY GOOD COMPROMISE.
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'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT IT, IT LIMITS THAT.BUT FOR MYSELF, AS FAR AS SOME KIND OF RELIGIOUS ACT, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF A COUNCIL MEETING, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I PROPOSE, BUT I TOTALLY FINE WITH IT.
IF WE DO IT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO FACILITATE MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
IF IT'S THE COUNCIL'S WILL COUNCILOR HARRIS, UH, BEING MY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING HERE, UM, I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY ON A DAY, ON A EVERY MEETING BASIS.
UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I PARTICULARLY WANT TO ENGAGE IN, UM, AND WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTED TOPHER HEISER.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE THE FIRST TO UTILIZE MIGUEL'S NEW VOTING TACTICS OF YES.
BUT, SO, UH, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
BUT FOR THE RECORD, I, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT RELIGIOUS ELEMENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY PLACE IN GOVERNMENT.
UH, SO, UH, I JUST, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FEEL WHEN WE SIT IN THIS ROOM HERE.
BUT ALSO, LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM SOMEONE WHO, UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE RELIGIOUS.
BUT COMES, THAT'S WHERE THE, THE YES PART IS.
IF WE'RE JUST GONNA CALL IT A MOMENT OF SILENCE, I CAN, I'LL, I'LL BE, I'LL LIVE WITH IT.
MY KIDS DO IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
WELL, THIS IS A, IT'S NOT A HILL.
THIS IS THE ULTIMATE SLIPPERY SLOPE.
AND, AND HONESTLY, IT GOES TO A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO ADDRESS IT.
THEN IT'S NATIVITY, THEN IT'S PRAYER.
JUST GIVE SLIPPERY SLOPE, BUFFER FOR THIS.
JUST GIVE A FEW MINUTES RIGHT AFTER YOU DO THE PLEDGE.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO, UH, SAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE NOW.
JUST, JUST PAUSE FOR A FEW MINUTES.
GIVE EVERYBODY THAT OPPORTUNITY AND MOVE ON.
IT'S, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET, SEE WHAT'S EASIER HERE.
IS IT FOR US OR IS IT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE CROWD? IS IT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE THE, THE WHOLE FOCUS OF, OF THE SILENCE OR THE CERTAIN, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL PRAYER? 'CAUSE UM, I GUESS WE'VE GOTTA FOCUS ON WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE OVERALL GOAL IS.
YES, WE CAN COME IN AND I CAN STAY QUIET MYSELF WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING ON AND THINK ABOUT, HEY, I HOPE I HAVE A GOOD MEETING.
BUT, UM, BUT I, I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
OF COURSE, I'VE LOOKED UP SOME SUPREME COURT ISSUES AND THERE'S SOME THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, PRAYERS ARE NOT, UM, NOT A VIOLATION OF THAT, BUT IT BECOMES A, A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
YOU, I GUESS IF YOU DO BRING SOMEBODY UP AND SAY, I WANT TO DO A PRAYER, OR, YOU KNOW, INVITE WHATEVER IT IS.
THEN, THEN THAT BECOMES A, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THAT END.
UM, 'CAUSE MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY PRAYS ON A CHRISTIAN BASE.
WE WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANYBODY UP.
BUT CONVERSATION, THE AFTER THAT, ASKING EVERYBODY AT ONE TIME TO BE QUIET, BOW YOUR HEAD AND REFLECT.
I MEAN, I'M JUST GONNA BE HONEST.
IT'S A, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT A RELIGIOUS ACT.
AND, AND SO IT, IT'S JUST, WE ARE, WE ARE HEADLONG DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE PATH RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE BRINGING RELIGIOUS ELEMENTS INTO, INTO THIS CITY COUNCIL, UH, ON A WEEKLY BASIS RIGHT NOW.
SO FOR ME, I'M TRYING TO STOP AND SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT SOLVING ANY PROBLEMS. RATHER WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE GOING DOWN PATHS.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO TAKING IT BACK.
WHEN YOU PUT A MENORAH ON THE SQUARE, YOU CAN'T TAKE IT BACK THE NEXT YEAR.
WHEN YOU START WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE, IT'S THERE FOREVER.
IF YOU ADD, INCORPORATE PRAYER WHEN YOU TAKE IT BACK, YOU CAN'T.
YOU JUST CAN'T TAKE THESE THINGS BACK.
AND DO WE REALLY WANT TO TAKE A SPLIT VOTE ON AN IRREVERSIBLE ACT TO START OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS? UM, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA TAKE A SPLIT VOTE, BUT I WILL.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT A FOUR THREE, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN WORTH MAKING A MOTION FOR.
I, I THINK THE VOTES ARE THERE.
I'M NOT TRYING TO STOP THE VOTES.
I'M, I'M JUST, I'M JUST GIVING MY OPINION ON IT.
WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THE NEXT ITEM.
I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY TO MAKE A MOTION, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THE MOTION? I MAKE THE MOTION.
I DON'T WANNA, THIS IS CONTENTIOUS.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT
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FOR LIKE OVER YEAR AND A HALF I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING UP AND I HAVE SEEN THE PROS AND CONS OF GOING AND TYING RELIGIOUS THINGS TO THE CITY.UM, I HAVE TALKED TO PAIGE ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I GO BACK AND FORTH LIKE, SHOULD I DO THIS? SHOULD I NOT DO THIS? LIKE, I, I DON'T HIDE IT TO ANYBODY WHERE MY RELIGION IS.
AND I, EVERY DECISION I MAKE, I JUST PRAY ALL THE TIME LIKE THAT.
I HOPE THAT I'M MAKING THE BEST DECISION, NOT FOR ME, BUT FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
UM, KNOWING THAT THE SCHOOL WHERE I WORK WITH DOES A SECOND OF SI IT'S LIKE FIVE SECONDS OF SILENCE FOR PERSONAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OR PRAYER OR, I DON'T KNOW, YOU LOOK INTO YOURSELF AND LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER YOU BELIEVE IN, LIKE, HELP ME MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS.
I DIDN'T THINK THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE, UM, SUCH A HUGE ISSUE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT.
NOT FOR, UM, MAYBE FOR PERSONAL REFLECTION.
I WOULD, I WOULD TAKE THAT MINUTE TO DEDICATE THE MEETING TO WHAT I BELIEVE IN, WHICH IS GOD.
BUT, UM, IF IT IS, IT'S AN ISSUE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS DAIS.
I JUST SAW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE TYING, IF WE'RE BRINGING RELIGIOUS ITEMS TO THE CITY, I THOUGHT, WELL, MAYBE THIS IS THE BEST TIME TO DO IT SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE DOOR HAS BEEN OPEN.
BUT I, I WILL NOT BE MAKING A MOTION TO DO IT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT ITEM.
I WOULD, I THANK YOU FOR SAYING WHAT, FOR AT LEAST FOR BRINGING IT UP TO THE AGENDA.
I THINK IT, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN.
ANY, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY ON THE RULES OF COUNCIL? ALRIGHT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RULES OF COUNCIL AS AMENDED.
MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECOND BY MAYOR PROTI, THAT WE APPROVE THE RULES OF COUNSEL FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT? MOTION? ALLS IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[42. Consider nominations for selection of Mayor Pro Tem for 2024. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 42.CONSIDER NOMINATIONS FOR SELECTION OF MAYOR PRO TEM FOR 2024.
UH, SIMILAR TO THE RULES OF COUNCIL, MAYOR PRO TEM IS SOMETHING THAT IS BROUGHT FORWARD AFTER THE LAST COUNCIL MEMBER IS SWORN IN.
UH, SO RULES OF COUNCIL AND MAYOR PRO TEM GO, UH, TOGETHER.
UH, FOR MYSELF, I JUST WANNA STATE, I THINK, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS HAS DONE, UH, AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN THE, IN THE ROLE OVER THE LAST YEAR.
ALWAYS BEEN THERE WHENEVER I NEEDED.
UH, AND, UH, NEVER MISSED A MEETING AS FAR AS I KNOW, NOT ONE, UH, HAD AT LEAST TWO OR THREE THAT YOU'VE HAD TO, UM, UH, CHAIR, WHICH I KNOW MAKES IT EXTREMELY CHALLENGING.
SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE OUTCOME IS, I JUST WANT THAT TO BE STATED.
AND ALSO, I, I, I FEEL LIKE THIS COUNCIL IS IN A REALLY UNIQUE PLACE, ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN FOR SOME TIME, UH, WHERE I FEEL LIKE THE ENTIRE BODY, REGARDLESS OF, OF WHO WOULD BE SELECTED FOR MAYOR PRO TEM IS MOST INTERESTED IN THE COUNCIL COMING TOGETHER, UH, AND IS MOST INTERESTED IN SHOWING, UH, RESPECT AND DEFERENCE TO EACH OTHER, UH, MAKES ME MORE EXCITED TO SERVE, UH, WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU REGARDLESS OF, UH, WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THIS SELECTION IS.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR.
TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS MAKE NOMINATIONS, UH, FOR MAYOR PRO TEM.
UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MAYOR APPROACH? YEAH.
UM, YEAH, IT WAS A, IT WAS AN HONOR TO, TO SERVE THIS PAST YEAR.
UH, I KNOW WHEN CITY STAFF HAS ASKED ME TO, UH, ATTEND SPECIFIC EVENTS WHEN YOU WERE OUT OF TOWN AND SO FORTH.
I DO, UH, DO MY HOMEWORK AND, UM, FOLLOW THROUGH ON, ON A LOT OF THE, THE THINGS AND, AND IT WOULD BE, UH, AN HONOR TO SERVE ONE LAST FINAL TIME.
BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IN THE, UH, THE POSSIBILITIES OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY.
SO IF THERE'S, UH, SOMEBODY ELSE THAT, UH, UH, IS, IS WANTING TO BE NOMINATED, UH, BY ALL MEANS I'LL RESPECT THAT VOTE.
BUT, UH, AGAIN, I I, I REALLY APPRECIATED THIS PAST YEAR OF SERVING AND I, I HOPE I'M, I'M DOING A GOOD JOB.
AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT COUNSEL IS LED DURING THE MEETINGS APPROPRIATELY AND TIMELY ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER COUNCILOR HEISER.
UH, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN HERE A YEAR, BUT I'M STILL KIND OF NEW TO THIS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER CITIES AND I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF
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HAVING, UH, ALLOWING THERE FOR, TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER TO, TO BE NOMINATED IF, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, WERE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION FOR MAYOR PRO TEM.YOU KNOW, I DO LIKE THAT IDEA.
UM, AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD AT LEAST BE A, THE PATH FORWARD I WOULD PREFER.
AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NEVER GONNA BE AN INDICTMENT ON SOMEONE.
I JUST, I WANT US ALL TO BE ABLE TO GAIN THAT EXPERIENCE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY HERE FOR THREE YEARS AND I, I, I WOULDN'T WANT ANYONE TO MISS OUT, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING MYSELF ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO LEAD FROM A DIFFERENT POSITION.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'LL TEACH US THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW AND IT'D BE, WOULD BE A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY 2 CENTS ON IT.
UM, MAYOR, I PRETEND TO BE, I MEAN, YOU, YOU'VE BEEN A REALLY GOOD THIS LAST YEAR.
UM, AND, UH, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN, UH, MR. RIZZO AND NOW THAT HE'S COME BACK, UH, HOW INVOLVED HE IS ALSO WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT'S A, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT BECAUSE I, I'M CLOSE TO BOTH OF YOU GUYS, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UM, ROBERT, UM, BECAUSE OF HIS GOOD COMPATIBILITY, UM, WITH, UM, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IF, IF HE WAS OPEN TO IT.
COUNCILLOR RIZZO, DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS? YEAH, JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT BY SURPRISE.
UM, JUST, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.
AND I DEFINITELY LOVE TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND INVOLVED, UM, HONESTLY, UM, UM, I'M SORRY.
GOTTA THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE.
UH, LOOK, IT'S NOT A TITLE THAT IS BEING BESTOWED ON SOMEONE.
THIS IS THE JOB OF MAYOR PRO TEM IS TO BRING COUNCIL TOGETHER TO WORK DILIGENTLY WITH THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER.
AND IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AN HONOR OF YOUR'RE NOMINATED AND VOTED IN BY YOUR PEERS.
IT MEANS THAT THEY BELIEVE IN THE WORK AND WHO YOU ARE AS A PERSON.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT TITLE BRINGS.
IT'S, IT'S A JOB, IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.
AND, UH, I WOULD, I'D BE, I'D BE AN HONOR TO SERVE AS BUREAU PRO 10, BUT ONLY FOR A YEAR IF, IF COUNCIL ELECTS ME.
AND THE REASON WHY IS I'D LOVE TO SEE, UH, SOMEONE ELSE STEP UP AND BECOME MAYOR PRO TIM.
AND IT'LL BE MY RESPONSIBILITY TO, UH, HELP NURTURE THE NEXT MAYOR PRO TIM.
UM, WE'VE GOT A YOUNG COUNCIL AND I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE YOUNGER COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, RISE TO THE OCCASION AND BE ABLE TO SERVE.
AND, UH, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT INTO COUNCIL DEFENSE.
ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT.
MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERT RIZZO AS THE NEXT MAYOR PRO TEM.
SECOND ALL MOTION BY MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR HEISER.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? UH, I DO AGREE WITH THAT COMMENTARY OF MOVING IT ON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'VE BEEN TIMES WHEN YOU, VERY FEW TIMES WHEN WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MAYOR PRO TEMS, UM, ON THE DIOCESE, ESPECIALLY YOU COMING INTO YOUR FIRST TERM.
I THINK, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR, PRO TEM TOBI, COUNCIL MEMBER MAYOR PRO RIZZO, BOTH HAVE SERVED IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS AND WILL CONTINUE EQUALLY SERVING IN THOSE POSITIONS.
IT'LL BE NICE TO SEE THAT MOVE ON AND, AND, UH, TO HAVE MANY OF US WHO'VE SERVED IN LEADERSHIP POSITION AND FELT THAT, UH, BURDEN, UH, AFTERWARDS.
SO FOR THAT REASON, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THE, THE BATON BEING PASSED AND TO SOMEONE WHO'S NOT UP FOR REELECTION AND NOT SUBJECT TO THE CURSE OF THE MAYOR PRO TEM ON ELECTION YEAR.
I THINK MAYBE YOU'RE BEING SAVED.
WE'LL SEE TWO IN A ROW THAT WENT DOWN.
ANYWAY, COUNCILOR PARSLEY, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYOR PRAM TOBIAS, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND FOR REPRESENTING THE CITY THE WAY THAT YOU DID DURING THE YEAR THAT YOU WERE MAYOR PRAM.
I KNOW THAT, UM, IT WAS AN HONOR TO SEE YOU, UM, SPEAKING AND STEPPING IT UP WHENEVER IT WAS NEEDED.
UM, ALWAYS REPRESENTING SO WELL THE CITY OF KYLE.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT THAT YOU HAD IT.
AND I WAS, I WAS ACTUALLY SCARED.
I'M LIKE, I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE MOVES IT ALONG.
'CAUSE WE HAVE, I KNOW I BELIEVE IN THAT CURSING,
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TRAVIS SAID, NO, IT'S, IT'S NOT A CURSE.SO, UM, IT IS GOOD TO SEE IT MOVING AROUND.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO HAS ALREADY BEEN THE MAYOR OF PROAM AND HE DID A WONDERFUL JOB AND HE DID IT.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE YOU DOING IT AGAIN IN THE NEXT YEAR.
IF I MIGHT JUST ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS AN HONOR TO TO, TO SERVE.
AND, UM, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY UP HERE TO FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PUT UNDER SOME KIND OF PRESSURE.
UH, WE'VE, ROBERT'S BEEN MAYOR PRO TIM BEFORE.
HE UNDERSTANDS ALSO SOMETIMES THE PRESSURES THAT YOU GOTTA HAVE.
UM, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS A TRUE HONOR TO SERVE, UM, YOU GUYS ON THE DAIS AND INCLUDING THE RESIDENTS WHO DID ACKNOWLEDGE ME AS YOUR MAYOR, PRO TIM, I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.
AND CITY STAFF THANK YOU AS WELL.
SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY UP HERE TO FEEL BAD ABOUT IT.
I'M PROFESSIONAL AND I'M NOT, I'M ALSO MENTALLY MATURE ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IT'S, THAT THIS IS JUST THE, THIS IS JUST BUSINESS.
AND IT, IT WAS A TRUE HONOR AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL Y'ALL AND IT WAS GREAT.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.