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RIGHT.[I. Call Meeting to Order]
IS 7:02 PM IT IS TUESDAY, JANUARY THE SECOND, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
WILL LIBERTY TO YOU AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THE CITY SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL.
[II. Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
UH, AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO SO.WE DO ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
I HAVE TWO REGISTERED TO SPEAK.
FIRST UP IS MS. AMANDA STARKER.
EVENING MAYOR, MAYOR, PRO, TEMP, AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS AMANDA STARK AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF TRACY SHIELD.
UM, TRACY HAD AN INCIDENT, UH, RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND HAD TO STAY AT THE HAMPTON INN FOR A FEW DAYS AND WANTED TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE SOME OF THESE STAFF MEMBERS.
I'M GONNA READ AN EMAIL THAT SHE ASKED ME TO READ.
MAYOR, MAYOR PROTI AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS TRACY SHEEL, AND AS SOME OF YOU KNOW, I FOUND MYSELF IN A BIT OF A BUYING THIS SATURDAY BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
HAD NOWHERE TO GO DUE TO SOME HOME CIRCUMSTANCES AND HAD TO GO INTO A HOTEL IN ORDER TO HAVE PEOPLE THERE IN CASE THEY NEEDED SOMETHING.
LUCKILY, LUCKILY, I CHOSE TO STAY AT THE HAMPTON INN HERE IN KYLE.
NOT ONLY WERE THEY THOUGHTFUL AND PROFESSIONAL, BUT ALSO VERY HELPFUL WHEN I FELL PHASED DOWN IN FRONT OF THE REGISTRATION DESK WHILE ON CRUTCHES, THEY COULD HAVE REFUSED SERVICE.
INSTEAD, THEY FOUND A CHAIR WITH CASTORS AND WHEELED ME UP TO A ROOM WHEN MY STAY WAS EXTENDED BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS.
THEY MADE PHONE CALLS IN ORDER TO KEEP ME IN MY ROOM AND NOT MOVE ME.
THEY WENT BEYOND THEIR JOB TITLES TO BE VERY HELPFUL.
SO I WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE FRONT OFFICE STAFF AT THE H HAMPTON, EXCUSE ME, AT THE HAMPTON INN.
THEY SHOWED WHY I MOVED TO KYLE AND WHY I CALL IT HOME.
GIVE MY COMMENTS ON, ON THE ITEM.
I'LL, I'LL CALL YOU ON THE ITEM.
ALRIGHT, THOSE ARE THE ONLY FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES JUST TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE.
[1. Agenda Order per Rules of Council Sec. B1. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
IS THERE ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL WHO WISHES TO RE REQUEST TO MOVE ANY ITEMS AROUND? ALRIGHT.SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO APPOINTMENTS.
[2. A Resolution Appointing a Representative to the San Marcos Animal Shelter Advisory Committee~ Jeff Barnett, Chief of Police]
UH, A RESOLUTION APPOINTING A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE SAN MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE, CHIEF BARNETT.JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
UH, SIMPLE ITEM BEFORE YOU, THE CITY OF KYLE.
CERTAINLY CONTRACTS ARE ANIMAL SHELTER SERVICES WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, LIKE OTHER ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
UH, AS SUCH, YOU ARE AFFORDED ONE MEMBER TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, UH, SERVICES COMMITTEE THAT CAN GIVE SOME GUIDANCE TO THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS UPON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUCH ON HOW TO RUN THE SHELTER AND SERVICES PROVIDED.
UH, THAT ONE POSITION RIGHT NOW IS CURRENTLY FILLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, AND HE HAS REQUESTED THAT THE COUNCIL TAKE UP CONSIDERATION TO APPOINT A REPLACEMENT FOR HIM AS HE MOVES ON TO OTHER COMMITTEES AND OTHER DUTIES.
UH, WE HAVE AN, WE HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY APPOINT WHOEVER YOU WANT.
AND THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OUR CURRENT ANIMAL SHELTER SUPERVISOR OR ANIMAL SERVICES SUPERVISOR, MS. BRIANNA GEDDES.
AND SHE HAS SERVED IN THAT POSITION FOR MANY YEARS IN RECENT, IN THE PAST.
UH, CUSTOMER OOD, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, YES.
UH, I THINK IT'S A YEARLY POSITION.
SO THE YEAR IS COMING UP THAT I'VE BEEN SERVING ON IT.
THIS IS A THREE YEAR, UH, APPOINTMENT.
YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE FIRST YEAR, SO THIS WOULD TAKE THE PLACE AND ADD, OR THIS WOULD REPLACE IT WITH YOUR DESIGNEE? MM-HMM.
UH, AND SOME OF THE THOUGHTS I WANTED TO SAY IS I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS WHAT AN HONOR SERVING ON THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS FOR ME AND WORKING WITH ALL THE ANIMAL SHELTER EMPLOYEES, STAFFING, AND COUNTY, AS WELL AS OUR CITY ANIMAL CONTROL PROFESSIONALS.
THE WORK ON THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS SO IMPORTANT TO HELP PROMOTE THE WELFARE AND PROTECTION OF LOST AND ABANDONED ANIMALS.
IN ADDITION, I BELIEVE THAT IT'LL BE MORE POSITIVE MOVING FORWARD TO TRANSFER THIS POSITION BACK TO ONE OF OUR PROFESSIONAL KYLE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, SO THEY CAN BE MORE INVOLVED AND ACTIVE IN THE PLANNING AND BUDGETING FOR THE ANIMAL CONTROL RESOURCES AND PARTNERSHIP WITH HAYES COUNTY PET RESOURCE CENTER.
HAVING SERVED ON THE ANIMAL CONTROL ADVISORY
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COMMITTEE, WE MADE PROGRESS WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF UNIFORMITY WITH THE ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.WE IMPROVED VOLUNTEER PARTICIPATION, RAISED AWARENESS ABOUT PET ADOPTIONS, AND ADVOCATED FOR SAFETY AND HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS.
WE ALSO HELP WITH VOUCHERS AND TNVR RESOURCES WITH PAWS AND PALS FOR ANYONE THAT NEEDED ONE.
WE SET UP AN OFFICIAL SUBCOMMITTEE THAT MEETS QUARTERLY TO STRATEGIZE COHESIVE LONG-TERM PLANNING FOR THE SAN MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER AND FOR ALL HAYES COUNTY.
I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THIS WORK AND THESE OBJECTIVES ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT AGAIN, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE LEADING POSITION SHOULD BE TRANSFERRED BACK TO OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS.
AND ON A FINAL NOTE, THE AFTER HOURS CHECK-IN AND ENFORCEMENT IS THE AREA THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE REFINED WITH CONSISTENCY TO HELP IMPROVE EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY CALLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND TO CAUSE LESS TRAUMA TO UNFORTUNATE ANIMALS THAT ARE IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE.
SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I'M, I'LL STILL SERVE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES, BUT I THINK THE OFFICIAL POSITION, UH, SHOULD GO BACK INTO OUR PROFESSIONAL ANIMAL CONTROL M HEISER.
SO, JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ANYMORE, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE STEPPING BACK.
I'M STEPPING BACK AND WILLINGLY ONLY ON SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH IS ANOTHER COMMITTEE UNDERNEATH THE ADVISORY SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO YOU'RE STILL INVOLVED? YES.
BUT IN A, IN A LESS LEADING FRONT ROW.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I, I SERVED A WHOLE YEAR.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT BRIANNA GEZ AS A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE SAINT MARCOS ANIMAL SHELTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
MOTION BY CUSTOMER PARSLEY, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER HEISER THAT WE APPOINT BRIANNA GARRIS TO THE, UH, ANIMAL SHELTER BOARD.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[3. A Resolution approving the appointment of Poeta Asher to Seat 1 of the Community Gardens Committee. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation]
ITEM THREE, RESOLUTION APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF, UH, PU ASHER TO SEAT ONE OF THE COMMUNITY GARDENS COMMITTEE.MS. ESPINOZA, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, MARIANA ESP, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
AS YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION FORMING A TEMPORARY COMMUNITY GUARDIANS COMMITTEE.
IN MARCH 7TH, WE HAD INITIALLY 25 APPLICATIONS.
WE REACHED OUT, UM, TO ALL 25.
INTERVIEWED 14 AND APPOINTED SEVEN.
AND ON, UH, THIS PAST DECEMBER, DECEMBER 14TH, SEAT ONE WAS VACATED.
UH, THE INITIAL, UH, INTERVIEWS AND 25 APPLICATIONS.
MS. POA ASHER WAS NEXT IN LINE, UM, FOR APPOINTMENT.
MS. ASHER HAS LIVED IN THE CITY OF KYLE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, AND SHE CURRENTLY RESIDES IN THE PLUM CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD.
SHE'S EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT, UH, FOOD EQUITY AND ACCESS TO FOOD FOR ALL.
UM, AND SHE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVING ON THE COMMUNITY GUARDIANS COMMITTEE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR COMMENTS? MOTIONS.
UH, LAURA LEE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE ACCEPT POA ASHER AND NOMINATE HAS NOMINATED TO THE COMMUNITY GARDENS COMMITTEE.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, THAT WE APPOINT, UH, PO ASHER TO THE GARDENS COMMITTEE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IS FAVOR TO SAY AYE.
[4. A Resolution approving the appointment of Emilee Mueller and Emma Sanchez to the Kyle Area Youth Advisory Council. ~ Mariana Espinoza, Director of Parks & Recreation]
IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, RESOLUTION APPROVING THE APPOINTMENT OF EMILY MUELLER AND EMMA SANCHEZ TO THE CALL AREA YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL.MS. ESPINOSA, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MADNI OSA, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.
WE INITIALLY RECEIVED 17 APPLICATIONS FOR THE KYLE AREA YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTED 14, WHICH LEFT, UH, TWO VACANCIES REMAINING.
UH, SINCE THEN, UH, STAFF HAVE APPROVED ADDITIONAL APP OR HAVE INTERVIEWED ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS.
UH, WE RECOMMEND EMILY RULER AND EMMA SANCHEZ.
EMILY IS CURRENTLY A SOPHOMORE AND THE SECRETARY OF HER CLASS AT SCHOOL, AND EMMA IS CURRENTLY A JUNIOR AND THE VICE PRESIDENT OF HER CLASS AT SCHOOL.
BOTH, UH, LADIES ARE HERE AT ATTENDANCE TODAY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND STEPH RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? CUSTOMER HEISER? UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS OF EMILY MUELLER AND EMMA SANCHEZ TO THE KYLE AREA YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL.
SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO THAT WE APPROVE THE NOMINEES TO THE KAYAK.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALL MOTION CARRIES.
[5.
Appoint Kassie Anderson for Seat 2 on the City of Kyle Ethics Commission. ~ Robert Rizo, Council Member
]AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPOINT CASSIE ANDERSON FOR SEAT TWO OF THE CO, UH, CITY OF COL ETHICS COMMISSION.SO, CASEY IS, UH, SHE LOOKS QUICK BIO ON HER.
UH, GRADUATED FROM HAYES HIGH SCHOOL.
WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF, UH, TEXAS IN AUSTIN, WHERE SHE
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RECEIVED HER BACHELOR'S OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION IN ACCOUNTING.UH, SHORTLY AFTER SHE GRADUATED, UT SHE STARTED WORKING FOR FARM CREDIT BANK OF TEXAS, WHERE SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR 27 YEARS.
UM, SHE'S BEEN IN ACCOUNTING HER ENTIRE LIFE, HER ENTIRE CAREER.
BUT, UM, SHE WAS MY PAST ETHICS, UH, ADVISOR.
SO, UH, SHE HAS, THE EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN SERVED WELL WHILE HER TIME ON THE ETHICS COMMISSION, AND I THINK SHE'D BE A GOOD PICK.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? MOTIONS MAYOR, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, UH, MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM.
SECONDED BY MAYOR THAT WE APPOINT CASSIE ANDERSON TO SEAT TWO ON THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT? MOTION? ALL'S IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OUR NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
[6. A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas Appointing an Alternate Member to the CAMPO Transportation Policy Board. ~ Travis Mitchell, Mayor]
SIX, RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, APPOINTING AN ALTERNATE MEMBER TO THE CAMPO TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD.UH, AS YOU'LL RECALL, WE HAD CONVERSATION, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER, UH, POSITION, UH, THAT WE CAN, UH, FILL FOR CAMPO.
UH, AND THAT WAS ONCE HELD BY FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR PRO TEM ELLISON.
UH, AND SINCE, UH, SINCE HE HAS STEPPED OFF, WE HAVEN'T, UH, REAPPOINTED AN ALTERNATE MEMBER.
I KNOW THAT, UH, MR. RIZZO HAD, HAD MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAD THOUGHTS, UH, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD THING TO APPOINT AN ALTERNATE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO, UH, DEFINITELY WANNA GIVE EVERYBODY OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.
SO, UH, UM, I, I DID HAVE, UM, SOME THOUGHTS OF MAYBE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER.
WOULD YOU BE IN INTERESTED IN SERVING ON, UH, BACKUP AS ON CAMPO? UH, YEAH.
WHAT ARE THE, HOW OFTEN DOES IT MEET IT? THE CAMPO BOARD MEETS MONTHLY AT TWO O'CLOCK IN SOUTHWEST AUSTIN, MORE WEST AUSTIN, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PENNY BACKER BRIDGE, ACTUALLY.
UM, SO THAT'S, I'M THE ONE THAT WOULD GO, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT I COULDN'T GO, UH, IT'S LIKE A NORMALLY ON A TUESDAY OR A MONDAY, I'M SORRY, AT LIKE, TWO IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND THE REASON I'M, I'M, I'M STEPPING BACK A LITTLE BIT AS MY JOB HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, SO, OKAY.
MY TIME, UH, REQUIREMENTS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW.
SO, UH, IF YOU WOULD, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER AS YOUR ALTERNATE ON CAMPO SECOND ALL MOTION BY MAYOR PROTE.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPOINT COUNCILOR HEISER AS A ALTERNATE TO THE CAMPO BOARD.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[7. Proclamation recognizing Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]
AND COMMISSION, UH, PRESENTATIONS PROCLAMATION REGARDING DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.IT IS AN HONOR TO FINALLY BE ABLE TO BRING A PROCLAMATION HONORING DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
PERSONALLY, HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO JUSTICE AND EQUALITY ARE REALLY APPRECIATED.
SO WHEREAS THE, OH, SO SORRY GUYS, THE WRONG ONE.
IS A PIVOTAL FIGURE IN THE AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, ADVOCATED FOR EQUALITY, JUSTICE, AND NONVIOLENT RESISTANCE.
HIS PROFOUND SPEECHES, INCLUDING THE ICONIC I HAVE A DREAM, INSPIRE ONGOING EFFORTS TO ELIMINATE DISCRIMINATION AND PROMOTE A SOCIETY BASED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF FREEDOM AND EQUALITY.
KING'S LEGACY EXTENDS BEYOND RACIAL EQUALITY, ENCOMPASSING A BROADER VISION OF SOCIAL JUSTICE, HIS STARLESS PURSUIT OF CIVIL RIGHTS SERVE AS A TIMELESS REMINDER THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN BRING ABOUT TRANSFORMATIVE CHANGE THROUGH PEACEFUL MEANS, INSPIRING GENERATIONS TO STRIVE FOR A WORLD WHERE EVERYONE IS JUDGED BY THEIR CHARACTER RATHER THAN EXTERNAL FACTORS.
AND WHEREAS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR'S COMMITMENT TO JUSTICE AND EQUALITY, TRANSCENDENT NATIONAL BORDERS, INFLUENCING MOVEMENTS WORLDWIDE, HIS EMPHASIS ON LOVE, COMPASSION, AND UNDERSTANDING AS TOOLS FOR SOCIAL CHANGE RESONATE AS A POWERFUL CALL TO BUILD BRIDGES AND DISMANTLE BARRIERS FOSTERING A GLOBAL COMMUNITY ROOTED IN SHARED HUMANITY.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE ENCOURAGES AND PROMOTE STRONG AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES ARE RECOGNIZED AND CELEBRATE EFFORTS TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER FOR A GREATER GOOD.
NOW, THE FORAY PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF COUNCIL, OF THE CITY OF KYLE THAT JANUARY 18TH, 2024 SHOULD BE REMEMBERED AS MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTARY ON THAT? NO.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? ALRIGHT.
JUST WANNA THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND, UH, JUST REMINDING EVERYONE THAT, UM, JUST TO CARE ABOUT EVERYBODY AND TO ALWAYS RESPECT EVERYONE, UH, LOVES WHAT'S GONNA CHANGE EVERYTHING.
AND WE CARE ABOUT YOUR FELLOW MAN.
THANK YOU DANIELLA, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
UM, I, ALL RIGHT, ECHO COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO'S SENTIMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TIME OF THE YEAR, SO THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT,
[8. Proclamation Recognizing Law Enforcement Appreciation Day. ~ Daniela Parsley, Council Member]
PROCLAMATION REGARDING LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION.[00:15:01]
FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO BRING A PROCLAMATION, UH, TO THANK OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, GROUP, ESPECIALLY OUR KYLE ONES.AND, UM, WE FEEL VERY BLESSED AND LUCKY TO HAVE ALSO A LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMBER, UM, AS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS COUNCIL MEMBER TO BSS.
SO WHERE NATIONAL NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION DATE WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IN 2015 AS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT BY SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS TO RECOGNIZE AND SHOW APPRECIATION FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY.
ARE THEY, FOR ALL OF US TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ON A DAILY BASIS KEEP OUR CITY SAFE, MAKING KYLE SUCH A DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE POLICE OFFICERS ARE BRAVE AND DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS WHO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, FAMILIES, AND COMMUNITIES.
AND WHEREAS THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE ON THE FRONT LINES OF PUBLIC SAFETY STRIVE TO PROTECT AND SERVE FACING CHALLENGES WITH RESILIENCE AND PROFESSIONALISM.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF CAL POLICE OFFICERS THROUGH COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITIES, WORK TOWARDS CREATING ENVIRONMENTS WHERE CITIZENS CAN LIVE FREE FROM FEAR, PROMOTING A SENSE OF UNITY AND COOPERATION.
AND WHEREAS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PLAY A CRUCIAL ROLE IN MAINTAINING PUBLIC SAFETY, OVERHOLD THE LAW, AND ENSURING THAT ADJUST SOCIETY, THEIR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT, CONTRIBUTE TO THE WELLBEING OF COMMUNITIES FOSTERING TRUST AND SECURITY.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CAO THAT JANUARY 9TH, 2024 SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS LAW ENFORCEMENT APPRECIATION DAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR CHIEF OF POLICE AND OUR PEDRO THAT ARE HERE, UH, FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY, FOR KEEPING US SAFE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTARY ON THAT? UH, UM, CHIEF AND, UM, TRACY, DO YOU GUYS WANNA COME UP AND WE'LL DO A PHOTO FOR, FOR THIS ONE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
AND WHILE WE'RE GETTING READY, I'LL SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO, TO HONOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
IF ANY OF MY SHORTER PEOPLE WANNA GET IN THE FRONT YEAH, I GOT, I GOTTA SCOOCH IN A LITTLE TINY BIT.
[9. Introduction of New Assistant City Manager, Jesse Elizondo. ~ Bryan Langley, City Manager]
IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, INTRODUCTION OF NEW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, JESSE ELIZONDO.I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE THE NEWEST MEMBER OF OUR TEAM.
JESSE ELIZONDO IS OUR NEW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, SITTING OVER THERE ON THE, UH, THE CHEAP SEATS OVER THERE.
UH, WE COULDN'T, UH, BE HAPPIER TO HAVE HIM ON BOARD.
WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO HAVE HIM HERE.
TODAY IS HIS FIRST DAY, AND, AND WE THOUGHT, WHAT BETTER WAY THAN TO COME IN AND COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING YOUR VERY FIRST DAY AS WELL.
BUT, UH, WE'RE REALLY GLAD TO HAVE JESSE HERE.
HE'S GONNA DO GREAT THINGS FOR THE CITY, AND WE WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO JUST INTRODUCE HIM, WELCOME HIM TO THE TEAM.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT.
YOU WANNA COME UP AND MAKE A SPEECH TO US? I, I WAS GONNA SAY A SPEECH.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR CONSENT
[VI. Consent Agenda]
AGENDA.UH, IT'S RATHER LENGTHY, A LOT OF FAIRLY REGULAR BUSINESS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTARY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR ITEMS THEY'D LIKE TO PULL? MOTIONS NUMBER 10 I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT.
OKAY, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 11 THROUGH, UH, 22ND.
MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HEISER THAT WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 11 THROUGH 20.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[VII. Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
CONSIDER A RESOLUTION ALLOWING THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE REQUESTS FOR SPECIFIC CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THE LAYMAN HIGH SCHOOL SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL FACILITIES[00:20:01]
PROJECT TO OCCUR OUTSIDE THE ALLOWED TIMEFRAME PER SECTION 23 DASH 60.MR. ZUNIGA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ON THAT ONE? UH, YEAH.
SO I, I DO WANNA SUPPORT THIS AND I'VE SEEN THAT IT'S BEEN VERY ACTIVE.
UH, SO WHAT IS THE TIMELINE TO COMPLETE THE FIELDS BEFORE SPRING, SPRING TRAINING AT LAYMAN BASEBALL FIELD? YES, SIR.
UH, WILL ATKINSON, DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THEIR, UH, RECORD, UH, EXCUSE ME, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
UM, AND WHAT'S THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE? WILL, I MEAN WITH THE EXTRA HOURS OR, YES, SIR.
SO, AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM H-C-I-S-D AS WELL IN CASE THEY NEED TO CORRECT ME.
BUT AS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS WILL BE WRAPPED UP BY THE END OF MARCH FOR THE, FOR THE OCCASIONAL TIMES THAT THEY WILL NEED TO UTILIZE IT, UH, AFTER THE NORMAL HOURS FOR OF 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM THEIR REQUEST IS TO ASK IT, UH, TO EXTEND IT ON THE OCCASION FROM 9:00 PM TO 12:00 AM FOR AN ADDITIONAL THREE HOURS AS NEEDED.
AND IT'S MOSTLY JUST GONNA BE PUTTING DOWN THE, UH, THE FINISH ASTROTURF THERE, UTILIZING A BOBCAT TO BRING IT OUT AND TO UNROLL IT.
AND SO THE WORKERS CAN THEN FASTEN IT DOWN TO THE, TO THE FIELDS.
SO YEAH, I WAS REACHED OUT THAT, UM, THE, THE BASEBALL FIELDS WERE FALLING BEHIND THE SCHEDULE, I GUESS.
SO THEY WANTED TO, UM, SEE IF WE COULD GET IT, UH, MAINTAINED AND READY FOR THE, UH, SEASON.
UH, YES, GOOD EVENING, NATE WIN SWITCH.
UH, EXECUTIVE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES CONSTRUCTION AND, UH, BOND PLANNING FOR HAY, CISD.
UM, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY DAYS WE HAVE, LIKE TODAY, RIGHT? RAINY DAYS.
WE'RE ON A VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE AS IT IS.
AND SO, UM, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE IT AND NOT NEEDED THAN NEEDED AND NOT HAVE IT RIGHT.
UM, IF ANYTHING IS GOING TO OCCUR AFTER HOURS, IT WOULD BE RELATIVELY, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE A LOT OF DIRT MOVING BECAUSE ALL THE, ALL THE DIRT YARDS ARE CLOSED AT NIGHT.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE, UH, PERHAPS LIKE, LIKE, UH, MR. ATKINSON INDICATED, UM, SPREADING OUT DIRT OR TURF OR GRAVEL OR IN SELLING TRENCHED HANDS OR SOMETHING OF THAT EFFECT IN THE EVENING AFTER HOURS.
WHAT, LIKE, UH, HOW FAR ARE THEY NOW, DO YOU THINK? THEY'RE ABOUT 60%, 70 AROUND, UH, BASEBALL IS BASEBALL'S LARGER.
AND SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE THREE, WE HAVE THREE TIMELINES.
SO WE HAVE, ONE IS THE BASEBALL FIELD, UH, NUMBER TWO IS THE SOFTBALL FIELD, AND THREE IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS THE VENUE, UH, WHICH IS EVERYTHING BETWEEN THE FIELDS, SO THE, THE PLAZA AND THE SEATS AND THE PRESS BOX AND ALL THOSE OTHER ITEMS. AND SO THE PLA OF THE PLAZA, THE VENUE AREA, IS GOING TO BE THE LAST ITEM COMPLETE, AND THAT'S SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE AT SOME POINT, UH, END OF APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
THOSE WERE THE ONLY QUESTIONS TO SEE HOW FAR IT WAS COMING ALONG.
WE'RE STILL SAFE FOR THE WORKERS, BUT NOT INTRUSIVE TO THE RESIDENTS THERE.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT IN PROJECTS BEFORE.
SO JUST SOMETHING, JUST NOT TO ECHO OF THAT BACK HO ON THE SKID STEER DOESN'T GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, PLEASE.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING WITHIN A AL LEVEL WE'LL SPECIFIED BY OSHA, BUT TRY TO KEEP IT TO A MINIMUM.
YES, MA HAZARD, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UM, OR THANK, UH, SOME OF THE SCHOOL BOARD TRUSTEES FOR REACHING OUT TO THE CITY.
'CAUSE THIS WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I HAD HEARD ABOUT IT FROM SOME RESIDENTS AS WELL, UH, WHO HAVE KIDS IN THE PROGRAM.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAD THERE NOT BEEN A WILLINGNESS TO COLLABORATE ON TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A MORE FEASIBLE SOLUTION, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T BE TAKING THIS VOTE.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK THEM FOR, FOR, UH, REACHING OUT, ESPECIALLY, UH, TRUSTEE FLORES.
ANYONE ELSE? MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION BY MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILLOR HEISER THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP, CONSIDER A POSSIBLE
[21. Consideration and Approval of a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Kyle, Texas; Approving and Authorizing the Execution of a Reimbursement Agreement relating to the Savannah Ranch Public Improvement District; and Resolving other Matters related thereto. ~ Stephanie Leibe, Norton Rose Fulbright, City's Bond Counsel]
ACTION AGENDA.CONSIDER AND APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE, OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT RELATED TO THE SAVANNAH RANCH, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHANIE LIEBE WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT.
UM, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT RELATED TO THE SAVANNAH RANCH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
AND JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, CITY COUNCIL CREATED THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BACK IN MARCH OF 2022.
IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS ANTICIPATED FINANCING COUNCIL ALSO CREATED A TCE THAT CO-TERMINUS, UH, WITH
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SAVANNAH RANCH PIT AND TOURS.REVENUES WILL ULTIMATELY BE USED TO FINANCE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
SINCE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY PRIOR TO A LEVY OF ASSESSMENT OR PIT BOND ISSUANCE, WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT TO COUNCIL TONIGHT FOR APPROVAL.
THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT SIMPLY MEMORIALIZES THE CITY'S AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER TO FA PAY FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS, NOT WITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY PRIOR TO THE BOND ISSUANCES.
SO, UM, I GUESS ADDITIONAL STEPS OR STEPS MOVING FORWARD, THE DEVELOPER IS GONNA CONTINUE TO CONSTRUCT THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO DEVELOP THE PROJECT.
IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THEY WOULD COME INTO THE CITY WITH A REQUEST FOR A BOND ISSUANCE SOMETIME IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTER? IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NEXT UP, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD
[22. Receive a report, hold discussion, and consider directing staff to move forward with designing a roundabout or traffic signal at the intersection of Dacy Lane at Bunton Creek Road. ~ Leon Barba, P.E., City Engineer]
DISCUSSION.CONSIDER DIRECTING STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGNING ROUNDABOUT OR TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF DACY LANE AT BUNTON CREEK ROAD.
MR. BAR, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TIMON COUNCIL MEMBERS, LEON BARB, CITY ENGINEER, UH, COUNSEL, THERE'S THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU, SO WE CAN DECIDE WHICH DIRECTION WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD AT THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.
LEMME GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS ON THE, UH, THROUGH THE REPORT.
UM, HERE'S SOME OF THE HISTORY.
UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S THREE LANES ON BUTTON CREEK, FOUR LANES ON DCY LANE WITH A PAINTED MEDIAN.
UH, THERE WAS A PRE PREVIOUS TRAFFIC STUDY DONE BACK IN 22, AND IT JUSTIFIED THE NEED FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
WE ASSIGNED A COBB FINLEY TO DO THIS WORK OF DECIDING WHETHER WE SHOULD GO WITH A ROUNDABOUT OR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, AND THAT'S REQUIRED BY CITY ORDINANCE.
UH, THEY DRAFTED THE PRELIMINARY LAYOUTS, THEY EVALUATED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND MAYOR COUNCIL, I PROMISED YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT A LEVEL OF SERVICE MEANS.
I'LL, I'LL BE SHOWING THAT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES LATER.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS, UH, THEY DEVELOPED SOME PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATES AND SCHEDULES, AND THEY DELIVERED A REPORT TO THE CITY.
WE REVIEWED IT AND, UH, THEY FINALLY COMPLETED THE REPORT RECENTLY.
THIS ONE WAS A TOUGH INTERSECTION.
UH, YOU HAVE SOME DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE PROBLEMATIC IN THAT AREA.
AND, UH, YOU'LL SEE THOSE WHEN WE GET TO THE SLIS.
THE EXISTING CONDITION, OF COURSE, IT'S ALWAYS STOP CONTROLLED.
UM, IT IS A LEVEL OF SERVICE F IN THE AM AND THE PEAK PM PEAK HOURS.
AS YOU PROBABLY MANY OF YOU KNOW, THERE'S LONG QUEUE LINKS FOR THE WESTBOUND AM AND THE EASTBOUND PM APPROACHES.
I HAD TO LOOK ON THE LINE TO SEE IF I COULD FIND DEFINITIONS OF LEVEL OF SERVICE.
AND THIS IS WHAT I'VE FOUND FOR LEVELS OF SERVICE.
NOW THE, WE CAN ALL READ THIS AND IT LOOKS GOOD AT FREE FLOW.
FOR EXAMPLE, ONE, A FREE FLOW WITH VOLUMES, LOW VOLUMES, AND HIGH SPEEDS ALL THE WAY TO F WHERE IT'S, UH, FORCE OR BREAKDOWN FLOW, UNACCEPTABLE CONGESTION.
NOW BEAR WITH ME ON THIS NEXT SLIDE.
IT IS, UH, THERE'S SOME OLDER VEHICLE VEHICLES IN THERE AND YOU CAN TELL IT'S AN OLD PICTURE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SUVS IN THERE.
OKAY, HERE'S THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
A, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
FREE FLOWING, THEN YOU GO WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE B.
AND UH, THEN YOU GO DOWN TO C IT START TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE CROWDED IN THERE.
ALRIGHT, LEAN, WE NEED YOU TO CITE YOUR SOURCE ON THESE PICTURES.
WHAT, WHAT, UH,
E IS REALLY STARTING TO PACK UP.
AND F IS YOUR I 35 AT, UH, FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
SO THAT'S YOUR LEVELS OF SERVICE AT TRAFFIC.
ENGINEERS LIKE TO DEFINE HOW AN INTERSECTION WORKS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT BENEFITS AND SOME OF THE IMPACTS, UH, BENEFITS, FEWER CONFLICT POINTS, LOWER MAINTENANCE COST, AND THERE'S SOME SPEED REDUCTION INVOLVED.
THE IMPACTS, YOU'VE GOT THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS THAT BECOME A PROBLEM.
UH, YOU'VE GOT THE LEARNING CURVE FOR THE NEW ROUNDABOUT USERS.
THEY HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT.
UH, WE DO NEED MORE RIGHT OF WAY TYPICALLY.
AND UH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF UTILITIES THAT ARE IMPACTED THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE OUTTA THE WAY.
AND OF COURSE, IT'S A LONGER CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
TRAFFIC SIGNAL, BENEFITS AND IMPACTS.
UH, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY EXPECTED.
FEWER UTILITY RELOCATIONS ARE NEEDED.
UH, WE'VE ADDED PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, LOWER CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AND SHORTER CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.
THE IMPACTS IS, UH, THERE'S ADDITIONAL USER DELAY TIME, HIGHER SPEEDS LEAD TO MORE SEVERE CRASHES AND THERE'S MORE CONFLICT POINTS GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
WE ALSO HAVE TO MOVE EXISTING OVERHEAD ELECTRIC LINES AND MOVE THEM OUTTA THE WAY TO PLACE THESE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
HERE'S A PROPOSED LAYOUT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.
UM, I THINK, UH, I'M GONNA TRY THIS.
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I BETTER NOT, THERE YOU GO.IF YOU CAN SEE THIS DRIVEWAY RIGHT HERE AND THIS DRIVEWAY RIGHT HERE.
THOSE ARE PROBLEM AREAS WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING THAT ROUNDABOUT.
SO THEY WILL, WHAT YOU SEE NOW ON THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN IS WHAT I CALL A SLIP LANE.
IF YOU'RE GONNA GO EAST FROM PHILOMENA, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT.
YOU JUST SLIP RIGHT ON THROUGH AND GO ALL THE WAY TO THE EAST.
SAME IS TRUE FOR NORTH, UH, SOUTH.
AND, UH, ONE FROM THE SOUTH BACK TO THE WEST.
THERE'S A SLIP LANES IN THERE.
DOES IT REALLY NEED THE ONE ON THE NORTH? I MEAN, I CAN SEE THE REASON FOR THE ONE ALONG BUNTON CREEK, BUT THE ONE ON THE NORTH, IT SEEMS MAYBE REDUNDANT TO HAVE A SLIP LANE THERE.
I WAS JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF RIGHT OF ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION CALLS.
IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE THAT WOULD HELP ANYTHING.
LITTLE IMPACT TO THE IN, UH, AS FAR AS RIGHT OF AWAYS ARE CONCERNED, YOU STILL HAVE THE ISSUE WITH THE DRIVEWAYS.
UH, AS PEOPLE PULL UP TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND BACK UP THERE, PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF THOSE TWO DRIVEWAYS THAT I POINTED TO.
LET'S LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE BY THE, UH, OUR CONSULTANT.
ALTERNATIVE TWO IS THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN 2022, BASED ON THEIR, THEIR, UH, CALCULATIONS, WE HAD AVAILABLE OF SERVICE A FOR BOTH THE, UH, THE ROUND FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, BOTH AM AND PM.
UM, WHEN WE WENT TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR 2028, UH, IT STAYED AT THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE.
A, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, IF THEY WERE INSTALLED IN 2022, THEY WOULD'VE HAD A LEVEL OF SERVICE OF B, WHICH IS NOT BAD.
UH, BUT THEN IN, UH, 2028 THAT THE, UH, LEVEL OF SERVICE WE DROPPING DOWN TO ABOUT A C AND THE PMRS RECOMMENDATION, UH, COBB, FINLEY AND ASSOCIATES RECOMMENDS A ROUNDABOUT BASED ON A LEVEL OF SERVICE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND TIMELINE.
UH, THE ROUNDABOUT IS ESTIMATED AT ABOUT $5.2 MILLION ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION TIME, 32 MONTHS.
AND OF COURSE WE NEED RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION, A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS ARE NEEDED.
ALSO, TRAFFIC SIGNAL, ESTIMATED COST FOR $530,000 AND, UH, ESTIMATED 18 MONTHS.
COUNSEL CAN APPROVE THE DESIGN CONSTRUCTION OF A ROUNDABOUT COUNSEL OR COUNSEL CAN APPROVE THE DESIGN CONSTRUCTION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR WE DO NOTHING LEAD TO STOP SIGNS AS IS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
WHAT QUESTION? COUNSELOR PARSLEY.
UM, I DRIVE THAT INTERSECTION LIKE ONCE A DAY, INCLUDING SUNDAYS.
AND THE STOP SIGN RIGHT NOW IS THE WORST THING EVER.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW A TRAFFIC SIGNAL MAY HELP WITH ANY OF THAT.
JUST MY, THAT'S THE ONE THAT IS RIGHT BY GEMSTONE PILOTS, CORRECT? YES.
RIGHT BEHIND GEMSTONE PALACES IS MY CHURCH AND IT'S MY KIDS JUJITSU ACADEMY.
IF SO, THAT'S ONE OF THE DRIVEWAYS THAT IS GETTING OUT OF THAT.
IT'S ONE OF THE DRIVEWAYS THAT LEADS TO THAT ROAD.
AND WITH THE STOP SIGN RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN BARELY EVER GET OUT OF THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW, UM, HOW A TRAFFIC SIGNAL MAY BENEFIT THAT CORNER AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I, I MEAN, I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT THE PRICE OF THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL BENEFIT THAT INTERSECTION AT ALL.
WELL, THAT'S KINDA WHY I WAS BRINGING UP THAT NORTH SLIP LANE.
IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S LESS LAND, LESS CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
THE ONE ON THE SOUTH MAKES SENSE, BUT IT'S A FAST AND CHEAP OR IT'S A MORE EXPENSIVE LONGER, BUT CORRECT KIND OF CONVERSATION.
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THAT? BUT DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF FISCAL IMPACT ON WHICH CHOICE? AND THE OTHER THING IS DO UH, ANY POINT ARE WE PLANNING ON EXTENDING THAT ROAD, MAKING IT LIKE A TWO AND TWO LANE? BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT IS SO CONGESTED AND WE'RE NOT EVEN FULLY DEVELOPED.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE IN FIVE YEARS BOND.
WE JUST NEED, LIKE, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS 'CAUSE IT'S FURTHER EAST IS WHERE THE BUTTON BE A SEPARATE PROJECT.
SO IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD, WE BRING YOU BACK A DESIGN CONTRACT TO GET STARTED ON IT.
AND THEN THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR, WE WOULD LOOK AT PUTTING IT IN THE CIP TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION.
AND YOU'D HAVE TO, YOU'D BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, ALL THE, THE OFFSETS OF WHAT A DECISION LIKE THIS IS.
IT IS AN INTERSECTION THAT WE, WE DO BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED.
AND WE WANTED TO GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
SO YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE OPTIONS AS, AS, UH, MR. BARBARA SAID IT, IT DOES TAKE SOME TIME.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO TO THREE YEARS TO HAVE THIS FULLY DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION.
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SO IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO, WE WANT TO GET STARTED ON IT FAIRLY QUICKLY SO WE COULD ACTUALLY GET IT DONE.IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ALSO CAN BE, I'M SO SORRY.
DONE WITH THOSE, THOSE, UM, DRIVEWAYS BECAUSE LIKE JUST ON A SUNDAY GETTING OUT OF MY CHURCH AND BEING ABLE TO TRY TO OPEN INTO THAT LINE, IT'S ALMOST A HAZARD AND THERE'S A LINE BEHIND, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT, UM, YOU DON'T SEE ANY, ANY GOOD FLOW.
I DON'T SEE HOW, NOT EVEN A ROUNDABOUT IT'S GONNA HELP MUCH, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE WHOLE ROAD NEEDS TO BE REDESIGNED.
MAYBE A GOOD QUESTION FOR US IS LIKE, WHAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO APPROVE WHEN IT COMES TO FINAL INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS? LIKE, IS THE C IN FIVE YEARS ACCEPTABLE? YOU KNOW, THE ONE BY THE SCHOOL WAS MORE COMPELLING.
IT WAS BASICALLY AN F WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
SO THE, THIS ONE IS, IT SEEMS LIKE IT COULD HANDLE AN INTERSECTION BETTER.
'CAUSE THE INTERSECTION, THE SIGNAL LINES INTERSECTION WOULD BE A B.
BUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ROUNDABOUT IS AN A NOW AND IT'S LOOKS LIKE IT CAN HANDLE ALL THE GROWTH.
SO DO YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTIME WE'RE ADDRESSING INTERSECTIONS, WE WANT A FIVE YEAR A LEVEL OF SERVICE AND WE'RE WILLING TO MAKE THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT? OR ARE WE WILLING TO MAKE SOMETHING A LITTLE LESS AS A STANDARD? COUNCILOR HEISER MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, THANK YOU.
UM, MY THING IS, IS JUST A TWO PART QUESTION AND, AND IT IS REFERENCING IF A ROUNDABOUT GETS APPROVED AND GOING FORWARD IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE DESIGN ITSELF, AND NUMBER TWO, THE PROPERTY USAGES.
SO GOING BACK TO YOUR PROPOSED LAYOUT ON THE ROUNDABOUT, YES.
UH, I KIND OF AGREE WITH WHAT MAYOR SAYING ABOUT, YOU HAVE THOSE FEEDER ROADS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO GO INTO THE, UH, BUSINESS LIKE BREAD BASKET.
AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S THAT OPEN LOT THAT'S THERE THAT'S GONNA EVENTUALLY COME IN TO PLAY.
SO YOU HAVE THAT ROUNDABOUT GOING AROUND THAT AND YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME KIND OF FEED ROAD ALSO INTO GOING TO GEMSTONE.
I SEE THAT THERE'S A DETENTION POND.
NOT SURE IF IT'S WATER OR IT'S, MAYBE IT'S JUST THE DESIGN ITSELF.
UM, SO THE, THE QUESTIONS WOULD BE THE CROSSWALKS AT PROPOSED, UH, AT THE 400 AREA.
WHERE THERE BE, IF THE ROUNDABOUT IS, IS, IS, UH, TO BE VOTED IN, WHERE WOULD THERE BE CROSSWALKS THAT WOULD BE GOING RIGHT ACROSS WHERE BUNTON AND DACY, RIGHT? WHERE THAT CORNER INTERSECTION IS.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE EXISTING STREET IN FRONT OF REDBACK THAT WE JUST ADDRESS THAT.
UM, AND ALSO THE PROPERTY USAGE, THE LAND THAT'S NEEDED TO DESIGN THIS, UH, THE OPEN FIELD THAT'S MORE UP NORTH, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY ACRES DO YOU THINK THAT THE CITY WILL NEED TO ACQUIRE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL, UH, AREA FOR THE DESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUT? AND NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER TWO FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE.
WAS THERE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS? MAYBE MR. ATKINSON CAN ADDRESS THAT, THAT OPEN FIELD UP THERE WHERE THE, WHERE THE COTTON FIELD OR THE HAY FIELD IS.
WAS THERE GOING TO BE A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THERE TO WHERE IT COULD IMPACT THE ROUNDABOUT THERE? AND THEN JUST ENDING ON THAT, IF WE DO PUT A ROUNDABOUT UP THERE, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE THAT FLOW, WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY IS SAYING IT WOULD BE ABLE TO MAYBE GET CARS IN AND OUT.
BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA HIT A STOPLIGHT RIGHT AT PHILA LESS THAN MAYBE I WOULD SAY 50 YARDS FROM THE ROUNDABOUT ITSELF.
AND IF YOU HAVE THAT CONTINUOUS FLOW GOING UP NORTH ON DACY AND 1620 ON PARKWAY, IT IS ALREADY, AND, AND LIKE I'M PRETTY SURE MS. PARSLEY KNOWS ON SUNDAY MORNINGS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN BACK DOWN THAT LEFT TURN GOING BY THE HOSPITAL, IT IS STILL HARD TO TURN 'CAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S FLOWING.
SO THOSE WOULD BE KIND OF SITUATIONS TO WHERE, HOW DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT? BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE ROUNDABOUT LESS THAN A HUNDRED MILE A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY.
ALL THAT FLOW IS GONNA EVENTUALLY HIT THE PHILA STOPLIGHT AND PEOPLE TRYING TO TURN LEFT WITH THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC FROM DACY.
SO IT'S IT YOU'RE, IT YOU'RE LIKE RIGHT IN THAT TIGHT SECTION OF YOU WANT THAT FLOW TO GO.
AND AGAIN, IF SHE'S TRYING TO LEAVE ON SUNDAY, IT'S STILL THE SAME THING.
THERE'S GONNA BE THAT CONTINUOUS FLOW.
HOW ARE YOU GONNA MERGE INTO BUNTON? AND IF YOU GO TO ROUNDABOUT, THEN YOU GET TO GET STUCK UP THERE.
SO WHEN YOU ARRIVE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING CONFRONT AND
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT LIGHT THERE.
AND I'VE TIMED IT FOR LIKE ALMOST 45 SECONDS, UH, ON BOTH WAYS.
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COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT LET ME TRY TO ANSWER AS MANY AS I CAN REMEMBER.UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT'S PLANNED FOR THE FUTURE WITH THE ROAD BONDS.
THERE WILL BE A ROUNDABOUT PLAN FOR, UH, KYLE PARKWAY.
THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE ONE PLANNED AT, UH, LAYMAN AND BUNTON CREEK, WHICH IS MUCH FURTHER AWAY THAN THIS INTERSECTION.
SO THERE'S SHOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT TO THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.
UH, SO, AND THEN IF THE PLAN IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A ROUNDABOUT THAT WOULD REALLY FAC FACILITATE FLOW THROUGH THESE AREAS WITH THOSE ROUNDABOUTS.
THAT IS A POND THAT WE PUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER WE'RE ADDING HERE.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE IN DON'T ADD ANY MORE, UH, RUNOFF THAN WE HAVE TO.
SO THIS WAS JUST A SCHEMATIC TO SHOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE WHEN IF, IF WE DESIGN, WE GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
TO DESIGN THE ROUNDABOUT, UM, THE DRIVEWAYS ARE, ARE GONNA BE CRITICAL AND TO, TO DECIDE IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE DRIVEWAY AT THE, UH, BY THE JIM PALACE'S SOUTHERN ONE, THAT ONE'S IS PLANNED TO BE TAKEN OUT AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE MOVE IT UP TO THE NORTH END OF IT.
SO THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS HOW WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR, THE ONE BY THAT'S FACING THE WAS, UH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S, YES, THEY HAVE AN EXISTING ONE AT THE SOUTHERN END.
THAT ONE HAS TO BE CLOSED AND THEN WE MOVE IT UP TO THE NORTH END.
OF COURSE WE NEED THE PROPERTY OWNER TO LET, LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING SO WE DON'T IMPACT THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT'S THE PLAN IS TO MOVE THAT DRIVEWAY TO THE NORTH, THE TWO ON THE, ON THE BOTTOM, THE SOUTH SOUTHERN END.
WE CAN ASK THE OWNERS TO LOOK AT RELOCATING THOSE DRIVEWAYS, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T LIKE TO HAVE DRIVEWAYS RELOCATED FOR VARIOUS YOUR OWN REASONS.
WELL, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THEY'LL HAVE A TURN, A DEDICATED TURN LANE ON BOTH ENTRANCES.
SO IF I, I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING IF I WAS THEM, THAT'D BE PRETTY NICE TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN SO THAT YOU COULD GET INTO THE BUSINESS FAIRLY EASILY.
BUT GETTING OUT IT'S ALWAYS THE DIFFICULT PART.
YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, MICHAEL BROUGHT UP AN INTERESTING, UH, QUESTION POINT ON THIS.
WAS, UH, THE LIGHT RIGHT THERE AT FINA, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT PICTURE, IT'D BE GREAT.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, IS SINCE WE'VE TAKEN OVER THE LIGHTS, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD PROGRAM THAT LIGHT TO, UH, ALLOW THE TRAFFIC FLOW COMING THROUGH THAT ROUNDABOUT, UH, A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WHAT'S COMING OFF OF PHILOMENA? I THINK THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT, UH, SINCE WE'VE TAKEN OVER THE, UH, LIGHTS IN OUR CITY.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO DO IT.
BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT, UH, THE LOCATIONS AND I'M LOOKING AT THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS, I MEAN, IT'S ONLY GIVING YOU AN HOUR, UH, ON DAISY LANE AND KYLE PARKWAY, BUT ACTUALLY YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY THREE HOURS.
I KNOW THE PEAK TIME IS SEVEN 15 TO EIGHT 15, BUT FROM FIVE ON, I MEAN, THOSE ROADWAYS ARE BACKING UP TREMENDOUSLY.
AND WHAT I'M NOTICING HERE IN DOWNTOWN KYLE IS WITH THE INCREASED, UH, TRAFFIC FLOW LIGHTS ARE NOT GONNA HELP YOU ALLEVIATE THAT ISSUE.
LIGHTS ARE JUST GONNA ALLOW THE TRAFFIC TO BACK UP, UH, CONTINUOUSLY AS WELL.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M THINKING THAT ROUNDABOUTS PROBABLY THE ONLY WAY TO GO.
'CAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT, UH, OUR OTHER BUSIEST, UH, INTERSECTION AND THAT'S, UM, UM, HERE OFF OF BURLESON AND THAT FLOWS ALWAYS GOING UNLESS THE TRAIN'S THERE, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M LOOKING AT THE LIGHT AND THE TRAIN.
'CAUSE WHEN THE TRAIN'S THERE, WE STILL HAVE FLOWING TRAFFIC, BUT IT WILL BACK UP ONCE THAT TRAIN GETS IN THERE AND HOLDS EVERYTHING UP.
SO THAT, I'M THINKING THAT'S WHERE I, I USED TO THINK ABOUT THAT TRAIN TOO ON, ON BURLESON.
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE TR THE THE TRAFFIC WILL BACK UP THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT AND EVERYTHING STOPPED.
BUT AS SOON AS IT'S RELIEVED, IT'S JUST A STEADY FLOW AND ALL THAT BACKLOG JUST, AND IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A LIGHT, THEN YOU'RE CYCLING THEM THROUGH A LIGHT WHICH TAKES LONGER TO RELIEVE.
AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING.
MAYBE THAT ONE LIGHT WE HAVE ON PHILOMENA, ALLOWING IT TO, UH, STAY OPEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER ON, UH, ALLOWING THAT ROUNDABOUT TRAFFIC TO COME OUT THROUGH THERE FASTER OR, UH, LONGER THAN WHAT WE HAVE RUNNING ACROSS ON PHILOMENA MIGHT BE THE OPTION THERE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M LOOKING AT, UH, THE LIGHT AND LOOKING AT THE TRAIN, JUST TRYING TO GET A VISUAL OF IT AND GIVE EVERYBODY A VISUAL OF WHAT IT'S LIKE.
BUT ONCE THE MAYOR'S CORRECT, ONCE, ONCE THE TRAIN'S GONE, I MEAN THE TRAFFIC GOES THROUGH THERE QUICK.
SO JUST TRYING TO BE CREATIVE ON HOW WE DO IT.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS IF WE ARE DOING WALK LANES, MAKING SURE WE'RE, UH, NOT FALLING SHORT ON THOSE AS WELL.
I'D LOVE TO SEE LIT, UH, WHITE WALK LANES AND THAT WHAT I MEAN BY LIT, I MEAN I LIKE TO SEE THE LINE, THE YELLOW LIGHTS THAT COME OUT, OUT ON THE ROAD THAT BLINK SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW SOMEBODY'S COMING ACROSS THE ROAD.
YEAH, I I JUST DON'T WANT LIGHTING OVERHEAD.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH.
'CAUSE THE, WE DON'T STOP AT, UH, ROUNDABOUTS.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING PEOPLE YIELD TO THOSE PEDESTRIANS WOULD BE IMPORTANT AS WELL.
I DID FORGET WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO HAD REGISTERED AND WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GONNA BRING FORWARD DEREK POMPEY, EVENING MAYOR,
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MAYOR PROTE, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.UH, MY NAME'S DEREK POMPE AND MY PARTNERS AND I, WE OWN THAT PROPERTY THAT THIS PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT, UH, PRETTY MUCH SITS WHOLLY ON OUR PROPERTY.
UM, AND SO I LIKE IT NOTED THAT WE WERE NOT CONTACTED ABOUT THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
UM, BUT THANKFULLY WILL GAVE US A QUICK HEADS UP JUST A COUPLE DAYS AGO.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO OFFER MY 2 CENTS.
I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I DID WANNA SHARE MY THOUGHTS.
UM, BUT GOING FORWARD, I I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE IN THE LOOP ON ANY PROGRESSION AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD.
UM, BUT ALL THAT SAID, I DO APPLAUD THE CITY FOR TAKING AN ACTIVE APPROACH, UH, TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, UM, CONCERNS AND TRAFFIC ISSUES IN THE CITY.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW UNCOMMON AN ACTIVE APPROACH IS IN MANY CITIES.
BUT I DO THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THIS UH, PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE OF A ROUNDABOUT I THINK IS A LITTLE MISGUIDED.
I THINK WE WENT THROUGH THE NUMBERS AND THE ROUNDABOUT IS 10 TIMES THE COST OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
I ALSO THINK THAT THAT FIGURE LIKELY UNDERESTIMATES THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION 'CAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE HAZE CAD VALUES, NOT THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OR, OR AN APPRAISED VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY.
UM, YET THE SIGNAL CAN PRODUCE AN A, A A, AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT ONE 10TH THE COST.
SO I THINK IT'S WISER THAT WE STRETCH OUR TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS TO NINE MORE AREAS THAT NEED WORK RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON, ON ONE WOULD BE MY OPINION.
BUT TO ME THE 10 TIMES CONSTRUCTION COSTS DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE OPPORTUNITY COST.
AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT AN ENGINEER'S TASK.
'CAUSE TO ME THIS ROUNDABOUT IS PROPOSED ON LAND, WHICH IS SLATED FOR IN, IN THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
SOME OF THE MOST INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY, WHICH IS UH, WHICH MATCHES WITH OUR CURRENT APPLICATION THAT WILL AND I ARE WORKING ON FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO THE ROUNDABOUT ALTERNATIVE WOULD MEAN TAKING AWAY AN ACRE AND A QUARTER, AN ACRE AND A HALF OF FUTURE COMMERCIAL RETAIL OFFICE MULTIFAMILY, ALL OF WHICH IS WALKING DISTANCE TO THE SETON HOSPITAL.
SO TO ME, ME THAT'S TAKING AWAY JOBS, IT'S TAKING AWAY AMENITIES, IT'S TAKING AWAY TAX DOLLARS ALL IN PERPETUITY FOR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET NEAR EQUIVALENT RESULT.
SO THE QUESTION TO ME IS WHY WOULD WE CHOOSE TO DELETE THESE POSITIVE ECONOMIC DRIVERS TO PURCHASE SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE LAND IN TOWN? NOT TO TALK, YOU KNOW, TAKE DOLLARS OUTTA MY OWN POCKET.
I'D RATHER GO DEVELOP SOMETHING NICE, UM, ALL TO ALL TO GET THE SAME RESULTS OR SIMILAR RESULTS.
THE SIGNAL REQUIRES NO ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY, NO UTILITY RELOCATION.
WE CAN ADD PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS MUCH EASIER AND AGAIN, PRODUCE THOSE BENEFITS IN HALF THE TIME AND ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THE FAILING SIGNAL.
SO IT'S MY OPINION THAT THE ROUNDABOUT IS NOT THE IDEAL SOLUTION FOR THIS INTERSECTION.
I KNOW THEY HAVE BENEFITS ELSEWHERE, BUT JUST GIVEN THE GEOMETRY AND SOME OF THE LOCAL ISSUES IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, I DON'T THINK IT'S THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IN MY OPINION.
AND HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THOSE, UH, THOUGHTS AS WELL.
UH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S NOW CLOSED CUSTOMER HEISER.
YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT ON COST BECAUSE IT'S COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ONE THING I'VE LEARNED IN THE COUPLE YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE, UH, IS THAT NEARLY EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HISTORICALLY IS UNDER INVESTED IN INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THESE TO, TO TRY TO SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE NOW.
AND ALSO PROBLEM THAT IF, IF WE DON'T FACE, IF WE DON'T ADDRESS NOW, WE'RE ONLY GONNA GET SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE DOWN THE ROAD.
SO JUST MAKING A BLANKET STATEMENT FOR MYSELF, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD I'M ALWAYS GOING TO GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THE BEST LONG-TERM SOLUTION FOR OUR PROBLEMS REGARDLESS OF COST.
OBVIOUSLY COST WILL MATTER ON SOME LEVEL, BUT WE NEED TO BE THINKING BIG PICTURE ON HOW WE CAN BE, UH, A TOP-NOTCH CITY WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I THINK THESE ARE GONNA BE DIFFICULT DECISIONS, BUT UM, WE KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO GET TO, UH, QUICKLY.
UH, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO SURE.
UM, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT BACK THE FACT THAT MINA HAS ANOTHER LIGHT WITH BUNTON AND I, ALTHOUGH WE COULD TRY TO SYNC THE LIGHTS TO HELP THE
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FLOW, UM, WE CAN ACHIEVE THE SAME THING IF WE WERE TO PUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND THEN SINK THEM IN A WAY THAT WE AVOID THE TRAFFIC JAM.AND HONESTLY FOR THE PRICE, UH, YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY THE PRICE OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND I'M ALL ABOUT THINKING ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE.
UM, BUT THAT INTERSECTION OVERALL IS AWFUL AND UNLESS WE LIKE TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN AND BUILD LIKE BIGGER ROADS, IT'S JUST, WE'RE JUST PATCHING IT UP.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE ROUNDABOUT WILL BE WHAT I'LL BE GOING FOR.
IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT, UM, AND I KNOW IT'S A DEAD HORSE AND IT'S DONE, BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE, THE OVERALL GOAL THAT, UH, WE WERE SHOOTING FOR, ESPECIALLY WITH, WE WERE AT LAYMAN AND BUNTON BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, MAYOR PRO TIM RIZO, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A WAY TO WHERE YOU CAN SINK THOSE LIGHTS DURING HEAVY TRAFFIC TIME TO GET THOSE THROUGH BECAUSE THERE IS GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL STOPLIGHTS FOUR-WAY STOPLIGHT LESS THAN A MILE UP NORTH ON BB AND DACY.
UM, SO I GUESS IN, IN MY OPINION, IN IN MY OVERALL THEORY, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT MY THOUGHT WAS IN PEAK TIMES, A STOPLIGHT AND CROSSWALK AT LAYMAN, AB BUNTON WOULD FLOW THROUGH INCLUDING THIS INTERSECTION TO THE TIMING TO WHERE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OUTLET GOING NORTH.
YOU HAVE TWO GOING, ONE GOING SOUTH, ANOTHER ONE GOING NORTH, AND ALL THE ONES HITTING THERE.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, UH, IF YOU DRIVE THAT AND, AND LIKE COUNCILMAN PARSLEY SAYS SHE DOES ON SUNDAYS, ONCE YOU TRY TO MAKE THAT LEFT RIGHT TURN TO GO UP DAISY BY THE HOSPITAL TRYING TO MAKE THAT LEFT TURN ON THAT HILL WHEN CARS ARE COMING DOWN, IT IS SO DANGEROUS.
AND ESPECIALLY THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALSO BROUGHT UP TO CITY MANAGER ABOUT, UH, A SPECIFIC LIGHT OR JUST A STREET LIGHT, SOLAR LIGHT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO TURN IN.
SO, UM, THAT WAS MY OVERALL GOAL WHEN IT CAME TO THESE.
SO, UM, AND, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WANTED TO BRING UP ALSO THAT I REMEMBER HEARING THAT THERE WAS POSSIBLE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.
WHAT WOULD BE THE COST THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO FOREGO FOR THAT ADDITIONAL LAND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A ROUNDABOUT IN THIS AREA? I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM BOTH SIDES.
SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR US TO ACQUIRE THAT PROPERTY? WELL, WELL THE THING WAS IS THAT, THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT MAKING OF, OF LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON, ON UNANIMOUS DECISION ON A ROUNDABOUT THERE, UH, THE POINT THAT THIS GENTLEMAN WAS BRINGING UP, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD TAKE AWAY FROM SPECIFIC RETAIL OR SPECIFIC AREAS AND THEN HOW MUCH THE CITY LONG TERM.
UH, AND I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. HIA, COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER IS SAYING, WE DO HAVE TO INVEST IN OUR CITY LONG TERM.
UH, BUT IN THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE ARE ALSO NEED TO BE DILIGENT ABOUT THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS GOING FORWARD AND WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO MY THOUGHTS ARE, SO I AGREE ABOUT THE, THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITY COSTS.
I JUST LOOK AT IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE, SORT OF BACK WHEN THE STATEMENT IS MADE THAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED WITH ITS HIGHEST INTENSITY USES, THAT'S THE MOST PEOPLE, THE MOST TRAFFIC.
SO DO YOU WANT TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S APPROPRIATELY SIZED FOR THAT OR DO YOU WANT IN ORDER TO GET EXTRA MONEY AT THAT HIGHEST POSSIBLE INTENSITY USE TO UNDERSIZE AND ACCEPT AN INTERSECTION THAT'S LOWER SERVICE? SO IT'S A TRADE OFF.
THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY COST EITHER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, BUT I JUST, FOR ME, I'M, I'M WILLING TO, UH, I'M WILLING TO VOTE FOR JUST ABOUT ANY ROUNDABOUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE DESIGN IS SUCH THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE BY THE ENGINEERS, UH, AN A LEVEL OF SERVICE, UH, FOR SOLVING THAT INTERSECTION FOREVER.
AND IF WE DON'T, THE DATA IS ALREADY SHOWING THAT WITHIN FIVE YEARS OUR CITY'S GONNA BE HERE FOR A LOT LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS.
IT'S ALREADY DEGRADED DOWN TO A C.
I ALSO, I I I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER INTERSECTIONS WHERE ROUNDABOUT WORKS BETTER AND I'M OKAY NOT TO DO IT HERE, FRANKLY.
UM, BUT JUST ARE WHAT LEVEL OF SERVICE ARE WE WILLING TO ACCEPT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE EAST SIDE? MM-HMM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU CAN SYNC UP LIGHTS IN AN INTERSECTION
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AND SOMEHOW CHANGE THAT NUMBER.THE ENGINEERING GROUP HAS STUDIED THE INTERSECTION AND SAID YES, THE ONE AT PHILOMENA IS A LIGHT.
THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF IT, BUT IN TERMS OF THE FLOW THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION ITSELF WOULD BE DOWNGRADED TO A C WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
SO ANYWAY, I I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WRONG ANSWER HERE.
BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SACRIFICING SOME PRIME LAND TO GET THE RIGHT PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN SO THAT THE REST OF THE PRIME LAND CAN DEVELOP IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE INTERSECTION CAN HANDLE THE INTENSIVE USE IS IN ANY WAY TO BE LOOKED AT AS SHORTSIGHTED.
I THINK THAT THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE MENTALITY TO HAVE, FRANKLY.
I THINK, UH, WE OWE IT TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE MOVING IN HERE AND BUYING THEIR HOMES THERE NOT SO MUCH TO ALL THE RETAIL BUT TO THE RESIDENTS LIVING AND UM, THE KIDS AT THE SCHOOL DOWN THERE.
SO IF WE CAN'T GIVE THEM A CLASS, A SERVICE BY, UH, BUILDING LARGER, WIDER LANES, THEN THIS IS COMING TO US AS CLASS A FOR A ROUNDABOUT AND IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE IT IS NEEDED.
UM, I'M ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE THAT WE MIGHT NEED THOSE EXTRA PIECES OF SIDE ROADS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU CALLED THEM LEON? I CALLED 'EM SLIP LANES SLIP.
BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE SLIP LANES ACTUALLY ADD AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF MOVEMENT, OF, OF MOBILITY.
SO YES, THEY MAY CAUSE A FEW MORE YIELDING AREAS, BUT I THINK THAT THOSE OTHER UPHILL OR DOWNHILL SECTIONS ARE GONNA GET FIXED WITH THE PIECES OF THE ROAD BOND THAT ARE COMING AND THAT IT'S ALL GONNA WORK IN SYNC AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITY COSTS EVEN IF WE LEAVE IT ALONE AND HAVE INTERSECTIONS YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THOSE TRAFFIC JAMS WITH THOSE, WITH THOSE LARGE MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS THERE AT A FOUR-WAY STOPLIGHT INTERSECTION.
AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FIXING THE PROBLEM.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING IT UP TO A LOWER, LOWER, UM, LEVEL OF SERVICE IF WE DO IT THAT WAY.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA LET OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS NOW THE DETENTION POND.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN OTHER ROUNDABOUT PROPOSALS.
SO THAT, THAT THIS ONE'S JUMPING IN HERE.
UM, WOULD THERE BE OTHER OPTIONS TO, TO, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? MAYBE, I GUESS I'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
COULD WE DO IT UNDERGROUND OR COULD IT BE SOMEWHERE ELSE? IT JUST SEEMS, UH, THAT IT'S SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN A LONG, A LARGE ROUNDABOUT AND A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
SO, UM, THAT'S THE ONLY STICKING POINT FOR ME IS THE DETENTION POND.
OUR CONSULTANT IS HERE TONIGHT.
I HAVE SOME IDEAS, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT OUR CONSULTANT HAS TO OFFER ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE DRAINAGE.
I THINK THEY, THEY REALIZE THAT WE'RE ADDING A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UH, THIS AREA ALL LEADS TO A SMALL DRAINAGE DITCHED, UH, TO THE SOUTH SIDE END OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CAPACITY IN THOSE CHANNELS.
SO WE'VE GOTTA KEEP THE FLOW DOWN TO WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
SO, UH, LET ME SEE IF HE HAS ANY IDEAS OR THOUGHTS THAT HE COULD PASS ON TO YOU.
STANLEY FEES WITH COP FINLEY ASSOCIATES.
UH, WE PICKED THE LOCATION ON THE SCHEMATIC FOR THE DETENTION POND JUST BECAUSE, OR MAINLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE CLOSEST POINT TO THE OUTLET POINT, WHICH IS THE DITCH GOES GOING TO THE SOUTH.
UH, I MEAN, YOU COULD PUT IT FURTHER UPSTREAM, BUT THEN YOU GOTTA BUILD THAT MUCH MORE INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET YOUR FLOW GOING FROM THE DETENTION POND DOWN YOUR OUTLET CHANNEL.
AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON THAT WE PICKED THIS LOCATION HERE.
THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT IT COULDN'T BE BUILT SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST DOING A SCHEMATIC LEVEL MM-HMM.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND A LOCATION TO SHOW THAT WE WOULD NEED THAT.
THE ACTUAL DESIGN WOULD COME LATER AND IT COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MODIFY THAT, MAYBE MAKE, SPLIT IT UP INTO TWO DIFFERENT DETENTION PONDS SO IT'S NOT QUITE SO BIG MM-HMM.
AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS POINT.
WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT PICTORIAL.
I, TIM, YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK.
UH, BUT YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE BIGGEST, UH, OBSTACLE THAT I SEE IN THIS IS THE, UH, NORTHERN SLIP LANE, UH, JUST NORTH OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
AND THE REASON WHY IS I SEE SO MUCH TRAFFIC GOING TO THAT ONE LIGHT THERE, HAVING THAT EXTRA SLIP LANE IN THERE.
'CAUSE NOW YOU'RE COMING UP TO FINA WITH TWO ROADS.
YOU'VE GOT THE ROUNDABOUT, YOU'VE GOT THAT NORTHERN SLIP LANE.
I, I JUST, THAT NORTHERN SLIP LANE SCARES THE HECK OUTTA ME.
I JUST, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UH, I THINK THAT NORTHERN SLIP LANE ACTUALLY NEEDS TO GET OUTTA THAT PROJECT.
IT'S JUST NOT A, IT'S NOT A GOOD USE OF, UH, FLOWING TRAFFIC.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A BOTTLENECK RIGHT THERE AT THAT Y AND YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE AN
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ACCIDENT THERE.UH, 'CAUSE THE PEOPLE COMING OFF OF THAT SLIP LANE ARE GONNA BE COMING FAST.
PEOPLE COMING OUTTA THE RUNABOUT.
YOU'VE JUST COME OUTTA RUNABOUT NOW YOU GOTTA LOOK RIGHT REAL QUICK.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S JUST A GREAT USE OF, OF, OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WOULD DEFER TO MY TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THAT ONE.
SO CARRIE YEAGER WITH CO FINLEY.
SO YEAH, THAT NORTHERN SLIP LANE, THE ONE, WE HAVE TWO LANES COMING SOUTHBOUND ON DCY.
I DON'T BELIEVE I LOOKED AT IT WITHOUT THAT SLIP LANE.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER ANALYSIS, BUT WE COULD DO A SORT OF MERGING OF THE DACY LANE, BUT YOU ARE GONNA LOSE LANE OF CAPACITY AT THAT POINT.
THE MERGE POINT IS SORT OF A CONCERN ON THAT.
AND YOU COULD DO THINGS, UM, LIKE A SPEED TABLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT COULD ACTUALLY CAUSE PE THAT WOULD FORCE PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN BEFORE THEY HIT THAT SORT OF MERGE POINT.
BUT, OR EVEN SEPARATING THAT MERGE POINT SOMETIMES WITH MAYBE EVEN SOME CONCRETE, UH, A BARRIER OR SOMETHING WHERE THAT TRAFFIC'S NOT HIDDEN.
THOSE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THAT, UH, ROUNDABOUT THAT QUICK.
I I, THAT JUST SCARES ME RIGHT THERE ON THAT, THAT Y RIGHT THERE JUST SEEMS, UM, I KNOW YOU'RE COMING FROM TWO LANES AND NOW YOU HAVE TWO LANES, BUT THEN YOU'RE STILL MERGING TO ONE LANE RIGHT THERE.
SO I, I'D RATHER HAVE THAT MERGE BEFORE THE ROUNDABOUT INSTEAD OF AFTER THE ROUNDABOUT.
AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY WAY I COULD APPROVE THIS PROJECT.
SO TO BRING THAT IN THE OUTER LANE OF THE ROUNDABOUT TO GO, YEAH.
IN, UH, IN Y'ALL'S PROFESSIONAL OPINION, DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF PREVIOUS INCIDENTS OR A HIGHER PROPENSITY FOR ACCIDENTS TO TAKE PLACE WHEN YOU HAVE A, A FEEDER ROAD INTO A, AN OFFSHOOT OF A ROUNDABOUT? NOT OFFHAND.
I MEAN, IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT IF THERE WAS, THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED THIS IN THE DESIGN? CORRECT.
SO WE DEFINITELY, ON THOSE MERGE POINTS, THERE IS A CONCERN AND TO MAKE SURE THERE IS SOME SORT OF, UM, AWARENESS THAT THOSE CARS ARE GOING TO NEED TO YIELD.
SO SOMETHING LIKE A SPEED TABLE, SOMETHING ON THOSE BEFORE THAT MERGE POINT IN ORDER TO SLOW THEM DOWN ON THOSE.
UM, THEY ALSO ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE VERY WELL SIGNED, UM, AND WITH SORT OF, UM, SO PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND WHICH DIRECTION.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE QUESTION THAT'S BEFORE THIS BOARD IS, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD FURTHER DESIGNING A ROUNDABOUT OR DO WE WANT TO GO WITH AN INTERSECTION? WE CAN'T REALLY DICTATE SPECIFICS OF THE DESIGN FROM THE DAIS 'CAUSE WE'RE JUST GIVING OUR IDEAS, BUT I CERTAINLY THINK IF WE SAID YES, LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ROUNDABOUT.
THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED COULD TALK TO BRIAN ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A MEETING TO REALLY GO OVER SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
I THINK THAT PROBABLY THIS IS A MORE COMPLICATED DESIGN THAN I'VE SEEN IN KYLE BEFORE.
SO CERTAINLY ACTUALLY I THINK WOULD BE WORTH IT, HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
BUT REALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON IS, WHAT DO WE WANNA SAY? YES, ROUNDABOUT OR LET'S JUST STICK WITH THE, UM, WITH THE SIGNALED INTERSECTION.
IT'S THE QUESTION BEFORE US COUNCILOR TOBIAS.
SINCE THIS IS GOING POSSIBLY BE A TWO POINT, UH, TWO POINT VOTES, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION ON AGENDA NUMBER 22 TO APPROVE THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF A TRAFFIC LIGHT TO INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK AT SIEN BUNTON.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THAT WE GO WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AS WELL AS A PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
SO I DO SEE ON THE DESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUT THAT THERE IS A WAY TO HAVE LIKE A FEEDER ROAD OR ALMOST IT LOOKS LIKE ALMOST A THREE LANE ROAD BY BUNTON CREEK ROAD.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A CHANCE FOR US TO, OR FOR YOU GUYS TO DO A DESIGN THAT WILL IMPROVE THE FLOW AND THE TRAFFIC TO INCLUDE THOSE DRIVEWAYS IF WE WERE TO PUT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN THERE.
CUSTOMER, I'M, I'M ALL ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS TOO, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS A PLACE TO DO ONE, ESPECIALLY HAVING A LIGHT RIGHT.
BY MINA CUSTOMER HAS YOUR YEAH.
UM, I'M PROBABLY GONNA BE A NO ON THIS JUST MOSTLY 'CAUSE I DON'T, I HAVEN'T HEARD ENOUGH.
THERE'S MORE THAT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT RO THE ROUNDABOUT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE BEFORE I WANT TO SCRAP IT AND, AND VOTE YES TO, TO DO A TRAFFIC STOP.
IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT I WON'T GET THERE AT SOME POINT, BUT AT LEAST
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FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON IT.JUST UH, LOOK, HONESTLY, LIGHTS ARE GONNA BACK UP TRAFFIC NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO.
I'M, I'M GOING THROUGH DOWNTOWN KYLE, UH, A COUPLE OF TIMES A DAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING.
IT'S BACKED UP IN THE EVENINGS.
IT'S BACKED UP, UH, COMING HERE TO THIS, UH, COUNCIL MEETINGS.
UH, I COME IN THE BACK WAY BECAUSE CENTER STREET IS BACKED UP.
UM, SO WHAT THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT KEEP TRAFFIC FLOWING OR DO WE, UM, ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THE BACKUPS TO HAPPEN? AND THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW IS JUST OKAY WITH THE GROWTH THAT'S EXPECTED FOR THE AREA.
IT'S GONNA BE EVEN A BIGGER BACKUP.
SO, UH, AND I'M EXPERIENCING IT RIGHT NOW THROUGH CENTER STREET.
I'M ACTUALLY AVOIDING CENTER STREET QUITE A BIT HERE IN DOWNTOWN KYLE.
SO, UH, AND AND TO YOUR POINT, YEAH, TOTALLY AGREE THAT ROUNDABOUTS DO HELP WITH THE FLOW.
HOWEVER, WHEN YOU GET OUT OF THAT ROUNDABOUT, YOU'RE STILL GONNA HIT TRAFFIC AT MINA.
AND THERE'S GONNA BE ABOUT, AND SO IMAGINE THERE'S GONNA BE THAT ROAD COMING OUT OF THE ROUNDABOUT THAT IF YOU HAVE A RED, IF YOU HAVE A RED LIGHT AND YOU'RE GONNA FIND TRAFFIC INSIDE THE ROUNDABOUT, BUT THEY COULD ALSO TAKE IT, UH, AROUND TO DAISY.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUTTON GO DAISY, TAKE A LEFT OUT NEAR SEATON AND YOU COME OUT THAT WAY AS WELL.
SO THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD STILL HELP YOU THERE.
SO THAT WOULD UH, MITIGATE SOME OF THAT LIGHT THERE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LOOK, REALLY TRAFFIC LIGHTS ARE GONNA BACK IT UP.
IT, WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING RESIDENTS IN HERE UPSET ABOUT THE BACKUPS AND WE'VE SEEN IT.
I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE, IF WE ARE GONNA FIND OURSELVES THAT IN FIVE YEARS THIS ROUNDABOUT IS NOT WHAT WE NEEDED FOR THAT INTERSECTION MM-HMM.
'CAUSE WE ARE OVERFLOWING WITH LIKE PEOPLE IN TRAFFIC AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DESIGN SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO KIND OF MERGE THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
TO MAKE THE WHOLE AND SEE, I THINK IT'S OPPOSITE.
I THINK IF WE BUILD THE, LIKE NOW, THEN WE'RE GONNA BACK UP THE TRAFFIC IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, IT'S GONNA BE EVEN WORSE, BUT IT'S HALF A MILLION DOLLARS INSTEAD OF 5 MILLION.
WELL DO WE SPEND THE MONEY NOW OR DO WE SPEND IT LATER? E EXACTLY.
BUT IN FIVE YEARS, DO WE, DO WE, IT'LL BE DOUBLE COME UP AND WE'RE LIKE, HEY, THIS ROUNDABOUT IS NOT WHAT WE NEEDED IN, IN FIVE YEARS, IT'LL BE DOUBLE WHATEVER WE WELL, OKAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING CLAIMS ABOUT THAT.
THE, THAT THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER SIGNALS, SIGNALIZE INTERSECTIONS IN THE AREA.
SO THAT JUST MAKES ME WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, DID YOU CONSIDER THE FLOW, THE INTERSECTIONS AROUND IT, THIS DISCUSSION AS YOU WERE PERFORMING THIS ANALYSIS? 'CAUSE YOU, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THIS INTERSECTION AS DESIGNED WILL FLOW AT AN A GRADE AND A SIGNAL WITH THE OTHER INTERSECTIONS AROUND WILL FLOW AT A C GRADE.
DID YOU TAKE ALL OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE POSSIBILITIES OF SYNCHRONIZING LIGHTS, THE FACT THAT IF WE PUT A ROUNDABOUT IN, IT'LL BE A ROUNDABOUT NEAR A SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, CORRECT.
WE INCLUDED THE SIGNALS, I'M TRYING TO RECALL IF I HAD THE PHILOMENA SIGNALS, BUT I KNOW I HAD IT IN A PREVIOUS ANALYSIS.
UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT MY MODEL FOR, SO WHEN YOU'RE GIVING AN A SCORE OF A LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR A ROUNDABOUT AND A C SCORE FOR THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR A SIGNALED INTERSECTION IN FIVE YEARS, YOU'RE TAKING ALL OF THOSE THINGS OTHER FACTORS INTO ACCOUNT.
AND YOU'RE SAYING EVEN THOUGH THERE IS ANOTHER INTERSECTION, UH, NEARBY, THIS WILL STILL PERFORM AT AN A LEVEL COMPARED TO A SIGNAL S INTERSECTION.
THE SOFTWARE THAT I USE TO NOW TO DO THE ANALYSIS FOR THIS IS A SIM TRAFFIC WHICH MODELS EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL VEHICLE THAT COMES INTO THE NETWORK.
SO IT MODELS 'EM THROUGH THE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS.
THE UM, DAISY LANE AND THE KYLE PARKWAY INTERSECTION, THE LAYMAN INTERSECTION.
IT INCLUDED BOTH OF THOSE IN THERE.
BELIEVE I HAD THE FINA, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO BACK AND CHECK ON THAT.
BUT IT DOES MODEL THE VEHICLES FROM THE PHILOMENA INTO THE ROUNDABOUT AND OUT.
JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A ROUNDABOUT AT LAYMAN AND BUNTON.
AND IF THERE'S ONE GETS APPROVED THERE, THAT'S GONNA BE $10 MILLION THAT THE CITY'S GONNA NEED TO COME UP WITH FOR TWO ROUNDABOUTS BECAUSE 5 MILLION FOR LAYMAN AND BUNTON PLUS THE PROJECTED OF THIS $10 MILLION FOR JUST TWO INTERSECTIONS.
WELL, THE TSS BOARDS INTERSECTIONS ON KOHLERS IS 15 MILLION ON THE WEST SIDE.
DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO PUT THE SAME LEVEL OF, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST SO SHE WOULD BE HAVE SO ON THE EAST SIDE, IS THAT NO, IT'S POINT YOU'RE MAKING? NO.
IS NO, IT'S WHAT'S WELL, WELL HE'S JUST NOTING AND IT, IT CORRECTLY THAT IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
SO WE HAVE TO BE COMMITTED TO IT.
WE HAVE TO BELIEVE IN IT IF WE'RE
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GONNA DO IT.SO, BECAUSE THERE IS A COST, AN OPPORTUNITY COST TO THAT.
THAT'S I'M WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE.
WHAT WOULD BE, COULD YOU PRODUCE A MODELING OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW TO INCLUDE INTERSECTION AND STREET LIGHTS AROUND THE AREA FOR US TO SEE HOW IS THAT GOING TO BEHAVE? OR HOW WOULD IT AFFECT IF WE DO THE ROUNDABOUT OR IF WE DO THE STREET LIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
I WORK IN THAT STREET BY, I WORK BY IDEA KYLE.
AND THERE IS THAT TRAFFIC IN THERE RIGHT BEFORE MY SCHOOL.
SO, AND WE HAVE ALREADY A, UM, A STREET LIGHT IN THERE.
AND SO WHAT I'M NOT SEEING IS LIKE, IF WE WANNA HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC CLUB, WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE TO STOP RIGHT AT THAT, STOP AT THAT LIGHT.
SO TRAFFIC WILL BE CREATED NO MATTER WHAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
IF THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO SEE A FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC WITH ONE OR THE OTHER TO INCLUDE THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AROUND IT.
WE NEED TO GET PROBABLY SOME DATA FROM THE CITY FOR IT.
SO YOU WANNA WAIT AND COME BACK WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? WE CAN DO THAT.
MAYOR, DO YOU THINK THAT'S VALUABLE, LEON? YES.
I I DO THINK, UH, COUNCIL NEEDS TO SEE THAT.
WE, WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
SO ON THAT MOTION AND I'D LIKE TO GO AND RETRACT MY MOTION ON THE APPROVAL THAT'S AMENABLE TO THE SECOND.
WE'LL GET SOME MORE INFORMATION.
FRANKLY, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS A GOOD DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE.
IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE I PLACED SUCH A VALUE ON THAT PARTICULAR STYLE.
BUT YOU'RE CR YOUR ARGUMENT OF 5 MILLION VERSUS 500,000 SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
AND HE'S BACK THERE SAYING IT'S GONNA BE MORE.
'CAUSE HE'S GONNA TAKE US FOR EVERY PENNY WE CAN
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I HEARD.
IT'S, UH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION AT YOUR PLACE.
UH, ANYWAY, UH, THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS.
UH, MAYOR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT.
THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS WITH DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S A FACTOR THERE, AND IT IS A VERY TOUGH INTERSECTION.
AND, AND I HEAR, AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S, UH, POSITION WHEN IT COMES TO A ROUNDABOUT VERSUS THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM ALL ANGLES, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND IT'S NOT REALLY POSITION ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT.
IT'S WHAT'S GONNA BE TR FLOWING TRAFFIC IN FIVE OR 10 YEARS.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU START GETTING RESIDENTS UP HERE, UH, COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BA BACKUPS, IT DEFINITELY, UH, CHANGES YOU, UH, YOUR PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT INTERSECTIONS.
AND WE'VE DEFINITELY HAD OUR SHARE OF THAT.
PEOPLE COMING IN HERE AND TALKING ABOUT THE BACKUPS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE IN OUR CITY, IS MAKING SURE WE HAVE FREE FLOWING TRAFFIC.
WE'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO COMMUTE THROUGH OUR CITY WITHOUT A 30 MINUTE COMMUTE INTO THEIR HOME ONCE THEY HIT THE CITY LIMITS.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON PEOPLE'S MENTAL HEALTH WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
I WOULD JUST ADD THAT SINCE WE'RE DOING AN IMPROVEMENT IN OUR ROADS AND WE'RE DESIGNING REALLY GOOD ROADS, WE DON'T WANT TO UNDER DEVELOP THE INTERSECTIONS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M CAREFUL AND LIKE WE JUST APPROVED THESE REALLY NICE ROADS, BUT WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS WITH SOME OF THESE INTERSECTIONS IN MY, IN MY MIND.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE STILL ARE DOING IT FOR THAT CLASS A SERVICE.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.
[23. Hold a discussion about the possibility of collaborating on a public radio station with a non-profit organization in the city of Kyle and consider directing the City Manager to prepare all necessary documents to support this effort.~ Lauralee Harris, Council Member and Robert Rizo, Council Member]
23.HOLD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF COLLABORATING ON A PUBLIC RADIO STATION WITH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND CONSIDER DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.
COUNCIL MEMBER LAURA LEE HARRIS, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST ITEM.
AUSTIN AIRWAVES IS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION AND HAS SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE FCC FOR LICENSING OF A LOW POWER FM STATION FOR KYLE, TEXAS.
THIS STATION, IF APPROVED BY THE FCC, WILL INITIALLY BE DEVELOPED BY AUSTIN AIRWAYS WITH TRANSFER OF THE LICENSE TO A LOCAL KYLE BASED NONPROFIT AFTER 18 MONTHS OF OPERATION, AS ALLOWED AND REQUIRED BY THE FCC FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, AUSTIN AIRWAYS HAS BEEN PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO NONPROFIT RADIO STATIONS, BOTH LOCALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY TO HELP WITH FCC LICENSURE APPLICATIONS.
ENHANCE OR RECOVER BROADCAST SERVICES IN THE EVENT OF DISASTERS AND PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
SERVICES ARE GENERALLY PROVIDED FREE OF CHARGE TO THE LOCAL STATION.
TYPICALLY, AA WILL APPLY FOR A LICENSE OR HELP AN EXISTING ORGANIZATION APPLY AND MEET THE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
AA DOES NOT CONTINUOUSLY OPERATE ANY
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RADIO STATION.I HAVE PERSONALLY WORKED WITH A A, A FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, INCLUDING SETTING UP WIMBERLEY VALLEY RADIO, WHICH WILL BE A MODEL FOR THIS STATION.
AUSTIN AIRWAVES IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE KYLE AREA LICENSE.
THEY HAVE PLACED ON THEIR BOARD SEVERAL CHI RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN RADIO AND OR ENTERTAINMENT.
THESE ARE ROBERT RIZZO, JOHN SWELL, AND LAURA LEE HARRIS MEET.
THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT FOR THE NEW ORGANIZATION.
UM, THE LOCALS ARE NOT AA WE WILL BE DOING THAT OURSELVES.
THE STATION WILL BE LOCALLY PRODUCED, MIXED FORMAT ON AIR, AND THROUGH A WEBSITE FOR STREAMING OF LIVE AND ARCHIVE SHOWS.
THE STATION WILL OPERATE 24 7 AS A NONPROFIT.
IT WILL BE NON-COMMERCIAL AND WILL COVER ITS EXPENSES THROUGH SPONSORSHIPS, FUNDRAISING, AND GRANTS.
THIS WILL BE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AS THE APPLICATION IS FILED AS A PUBLIC SAFETY STATION.
THIS MEANS IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE TIMELY INFORMATION TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE EVENT OF A PUBLIC SAFETY NEED OR DISASTER, WHICH WILL TAKE PRIORITY OVER ALL OTHER PROGRAMMING.
KYLE IS THE IDEAL CITY FOR THIS TYPE OF STATION, AS NO OTHER RADIO STATION OR LOCAL TV STATION IS AVAILABLE TO FILL THIS NEED.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CITY'S OWN BROADCAST ON SPECTRUM, WHICH HAS LIMITED DISTRIBUTION, KYLE FM WILL SERVE AS A SUPPLEMENTAL MEDIA OUTLET COORDINATING WITH THE CITY OF KYLE PER THE CITY'S NEEDS.
EMERGENCY INFORMATION WILL ORIGINATE FOR LOCAL, FROM LOCAL AND STATE PUBLIC SAFETY ENTITIES.
WHEN IN OPERATION KYLE FM WILL HAVE A LOCAL STATION AND TOWER SITE.
IN ADDITION, THE STATION WILL BE ABLE TO BROADCAST REMOTELY, INCLUDING ONSITE COVERAGE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY STATIONS, UH, OPERATIONS, AND AT SPECIAL EVENTS SUCH AS MARKET DAYS AND FESTIVALS.
THE FCC IS IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING 1,550 APPLICATIONS FROM A VARIETY OF GROUPS NATIONWIDE.
THE WINDOW FOR THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS, LOW POWER FM OPENS ONLY EVERY 10 YEARS.
SO THE WINDOW IS NOW CLOSED FOR APPLICATIONS.
KYLE'S APPLICATION HAS BEEN DECLARED A SINGLETON, MEANING NO OTHER ENTITY HAS APPLIED TO SERVE OUR AREA.
THE LOW POWER FM WINDOW, UH, MAY BE THE LAST TIME THAT THIS PARTICULAR WINDOW EVER OPENS.
SO IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE APP APPRO THAT THE KYLE APPLICATION BE APPROVED, OR WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THIS TYPE OF A LOCAL STATION.
AUSTIN AIRWAVES IS REQUESTING A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE CITY OF KYLE TO THE FCC INDICATING AUTHOR RESERVATION FOR THE NEW STATION TO SERVE AS IT SUPPLEMENTAL MEDIA OUTLET PROVIDING PUBLIC SAFETY INFORMATION WITHIN ITS JURISDICTIONS.
THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY FUNDING FROM THE CITY OR, UH, EXPECTATIONS, UM, OTHER THAN COORDINATION AS NEEDED.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? MAYOR PROTO, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PROVE AGENDA ITEM 23 FOR THE NEW KYLE FM.
UM, AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
UH, LAURA LEE HARRIS BRING THIS FORWARD.
I THINK ABOUT THE FREEZE IN 2001 WHEN WE HAD LIMITED SERVICE TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS WOULD BE GREAT.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER.
I JUST WANT TO GRAB A A SECOND.
UM, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, UH, YOUR MOTION IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK THE, THE, THE, UH, RESOLUTION THAT WAS YES.
THAT DR. HARRIS, UH, PROPOSED.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO HAVING THAT COME FORWARD? UH, I THINK, UH, THE WORD ON THE STREET IS, UH, THAT YOU, UH, HAD A BIG HAND IN WIMBERLEY VALLEY RADIO'S FOUNDING AND WERE ABLE TO SECURE, I BELIEVE $150,000 YEAH.
WORTH OF FUNDING TO HELP BRING THAT ABOUT.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S PRETTY COOL BECAUSE FROM WHAT YOU WERE TELLING ME, THE, IN THE EVENT, IT'S, THIS IS NOT A, A, A RADIO STATION THAT IS IN OUR CHARGE.
AND LIKE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER ON THE, IT'S NOT LIKE THAT.
IT'LL BE PRIVATE OR BY A NONPROFIT.
NONPROFIT, BUT IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OF ANY KIND, WHAT THIS AGREEMENT WILL DO IS IT'LL ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE A, ANOTHER WAY OF COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE.
IF CELL SERVICE IS DOWN, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT SIGNAL.
IT'S LIKE A REDUNDANCY IN THE SYSTEM.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE IT COMING FORWARD.
UM, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? COULD BE LIKE ANY KIND OF AMBER ALERTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR, YES.
COULD IT ALSO BE PODCASTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? COULD BE USED? YOU NEVER KNOW.
WE MIGHT HAVE, WELL, REALLY VALLEY RADIO'S POPULAR.
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COUNCIL MEMBER WELCOME THE BEAR HOURS.WE'VE ALREADY CLAIMED IT, BUT I'M GONNA REQUEST TWO HOURS A WEEK TO TALK SPORTS AND
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL FAIR TO SAY? AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.