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GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS FEBRUARY. THE TUESDAY FEBRUARY THE 13TH AND IT IS 6:30 P.M. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER. MAY I PLEASE HAVE A ROLL? CALL DELORE MARTHA. HERE HERE ON HERE, SHELL. FINALLY HERE HERE.

HONOR HERE. PERFECT ATTENDANCE. WELL DONE, EVERYONE. WE HAVE A QUORUM ITEM NUMBER TWO APPROVAL

[II. Approval of Minutes]

OF MINUTES. ITEM 2.1 APPROVAL OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. JANUARY 23RD 2024 MEETING MINUTES. WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THOSE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. SECOND.

OK, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER STIEGEL IN HIS SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JAMES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. SAY, I. I ALL THOSE OPPOSED. SAY, OH, I SAW YOUR HAND. MOVE BACK. I'M SORRY. THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONER SERATO. MOTION CARRIES. OK? ITEM NUMBER THREE

[III. Citizen Comment Period with Planning & Zoning Commission]

CITIZEN COMIC PERIOD. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF REGULAR MEETINGS. SPEAKERS ARE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS, AND THEY MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN CITIZEN COMMENTS. I WILL CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER FOUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT

[IV. Consent Agenda]

WE'RE CONSIDERING THE APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLATS FOR TRAILS AT WINDY HILL SUBDIVISION SECTIONS NINE AND 10. WE'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THIS WITH A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM FOUR CONSENT AGENDA, INCLUDING ITEMS ONE AND TWO. OK, SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER JAMES IN A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHIELD TO PROVIDE HIM FOR NUMBERS ONE AND TWO. THOSE IN FAVOR. PLEASE SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NUMBER FIVE. CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION. ITEM 5.1 CONSIDER A REQUEST TO

[1. Consider a request to construct an approximately 51,400-square-foot hotel building located at 22497 IH-35. Country Inn and Suites - Conditional Use Permit (CUP-23- 0092).]

CONSTRUCT AN APPROXIMATELY 51,400 SQUARE FOOT HOTEL BUILDING LOCATED AT 22497, IH, 35, COUNTRY INN AND SUITES. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU DASH 23-0092 M SHARP. KAYLA SHARP CITY PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. UM SO TONIGHT WE HAVE FOR YOU A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A HOTEL BUILDING AT 22497 I AGE 35 . THIS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT FAMILIAR FOR Y'ALL AS Y'ALL CONSIDERED A, UM EXCEPTION FOR THE HEIGHT THAT WAS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. UM SO THEY WILL BE ALLOWED UP TO 58 FT . IN HEIGHT. UM AND THEY ARE SEEKING AN EXCEPTION TO THE I 35 OVERLAY MATERIALS REQUIREMENTS. UM JUST AS A REMINDER. THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE 90% MASONRY FOR THE ENTIRE FACADE. UM. SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MATERIALS THAT ALIGN WITH THE HOTEL'S BRANDING. UM, BUT THE I 35 OVERLAY REQUIRES 90% MASONRY MATERIALS CONSISTING OF BRICK STONE, UH, DECORATIVE CM, US TEXTURED AND PAINTED CONCRETE AND THEN STEFO IN DETAIL APPLICATIONS. UM, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS APPROXIMATELY 80% HARDY SIDING.

10% STONE AND 3% WOOD AND CAST STONE AND THAT'S I KIND OF AVERAGE THAT ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT. SO SOME FACADES OF THE BUILDING ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. MAYBE OK, HERE IS THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. UM I WILL PREFACE THIS WITH THEY DO NOT HAVE A SITE PLAN REVIEW QUITE YET. THEY WANTED TO GET THROUGH THIS BEFORE SUBMITTING THAT. BUT IT WILL, OF COURSE, HAVE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE I 35 OVERLAY AND ANY OTHER APPLICABLE ZONING REGULATIONS. AND THEN THESE BLACK AND WHITE. UH, IMAGES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE. UM THERE ARE SOME COLORED RENDERINGS HERE IN A SECOND. UM SO THE WEST ELEVATION WILL BE THE FRONT ELEVATION AND THAT WILL PRETTY MUCH BE FACING 35. THEN THE EAST IS THE BACK, UM OF THE BUILDING. AND THEN THE SIDES. AND THEN HERE WE START TO GET SOME OF THE COLORED RENDERINGS.

SO UM, THIS REQUEST IS LIKE I SAID, NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE I 35 OVERLAY. UM AND SO STAFF, UM, DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL. HOWEVER UM, YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS IN THIS CASE. UM THE

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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE OR DENY MATERIALS THAT, UM, AREN'T COMPLIANT WITH THE I 35 OVERLAY. UM SO IN THIS CASE, YOUR OPTIONS ARE YOU CAN APPROVE IT AS IS, UM YOU CAN APPROVE IT WITH MODIFICATIONS. WHICH WOULD MEAN YOU, UM VOICE WHAT MODIFICATIONS YOU WANT MADE AND THEN STAFF CAN HANDLE THE FINAL APPROVAL OF THOSE OR YOU CAN TABLE THE REQUESTS AND REQUEST MODIFICATIONS BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AT A LATER MEETING OR YOU CAN DENY AND IF YOU DENY THIS REQUEST, UM THE APPLICANT HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL IF THEY SO CHOOSE, AND THAT APPEAL GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. SO AND THEN. I THINK AFTER THIS SLIDE, WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANTS HERE AND THEY HAVE A FEW SITES THAT THEY WANNA GO THROUGH WITH Y'ALL IF THAT'S OK. GOOD EVENING. UM MY NAME'S RON SMITH. I'M AN ARCHITECT AND ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEER WITH MA AND ASSOCIATES OUT OF DALLAS, TEXAS. UM OUR FIRM SPECIALIZES IN HOSPITALITY, WORK AND RESTAURANT WORK. WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH ALL THE NATIONAL HOTEL BRANDS, AND WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH SOME OF THE NATIONAL, UH, QUICK SERVICE RESTAURANTS. MAYBE YOU HEARD OF, UH, CHICK FIL A. WE DO ALL OF THOSE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE DO MORE ON MARRIOTT'S PREFERRED LIST OF ARCHITECTS. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO KIND OF ASK FOR, UM, PERMISSION TO BUILD SOMETHING TO A, UH, A NATIONAL STANDARD TO DO A MODERN LOOKING COUNTRY AND IN SUITES BY CARLSON IN LIEU OF DOING A 90% MASONRY BY Y'ALL'S DEFINITION, THIS IS A VERY NICE BUILDING. I'M HERE REPRESENTING DPN PROPERTIES, AND WE'RE HERE, UH, JUST TO ASK FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO ALLOW US TO BRING WHAT WE THINK IS A SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC STIMULATING BUILDING TO YOUR TO YOUR COMMUNITY. WE THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. UM THE SITES LOCATED, UM, ADJACENT TO THE CREEK, UH, KIND OF OVER BEHIND THE O'REILLY AUTO PARTS STORE. UM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, RETAIL COMPONENTS THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT BETWEEN I 35 AND OS WERE ACTUALLY ON KIND OF THE ROAD BEHIND THE I 35 SERVICE ROAD I. I BRING TO YOU THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND. UH, THE HOTEL HAVING, UH, BEING GIVEN THE VARIANCE FOR THE HIKE, WE'LL HAVE SOME PRESENCE OF I 35 I ONE BY, BUT NOT OCCUPYING THE FRONTAGE ROAD, WHICH IS MUCH MORE VALUABLE. UH, GENERALLY, WHEN YOU GET A HOTEL TO COME TO ONE OF THESE ENVIRONMENTS, THEY'LL BE RESTAURANTS AND OTHER THINGS AND THINGS BROUGHT OUT AROUND THEM. UH, LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY DONE A GREAT JOB IN YOUR COMMUNITY. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS UP AND DOWN THE I 35 CORRIDOR. WE'RE TRYING TO UP THE GAME A LITTLE BIT AND HAVE, UH, HIGHER USAGE PER LAND. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. WE TALK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE 50 FT EASEMENT FOR UTILITIES IN THE FRONT AND THE NEW SEWER LINES. THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF THINGS WORKED OUT WITH STAFF STAFF HAS BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL AND VERY GOOD TO WORK WITH. WE HAVE A LOCAL CIVIL ENGINEER THAT IS WORKING THROUGH A NUMBER OF THE ISSUES WITH THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION AND THE PT AS WE'RE CARVING THIS OUT OF A LARGE PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE. UM THIS IS THE LIGHT. THIS IS THE LOT, UH, KIND OF BEEN READ IN THE BACK. UH, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT RIGHT ON THE SERVICE ROAD. I THINK THAT IT'S A PROBABLY THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PIECE OF LAND. AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME OTHER APPLICANTS THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING THINGS ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED HOTEL. UH THIS IS JUST KIND OF SOME IMAGES OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE AROUND. WE'RE KIND OF DIRECTLY BEHIND THE O'REILLY AUTO PARTS. UM A LOT OF THESE BUILDINGS HAVE, UM AUSTIN STONE OR STICKY STONE OR LOOTER'S LIMESTONE ON THEM. WE INTEND TO HAVE AN AUSTIN WHITE STONE ON THE WHOLE FIRST LEVEL OF THE BUILDING. UM THERE'S THE STONES VERY MUCH A BIG THING HERE IN THE AUSTIN AREA, IT'S LOCAL. IT'S AVAILABLE. IT'S UH, IT'S SOMETHING WE THINK IS REGIONAL THAT WE SUPPORT. UH I THINK EVERYBODY PROBABLY KNOWS. YOU KNOW THE VILLAGE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THE BUILDINGS IN FRONT OF OUR HOTEL I. I CONSIDER A LESSER QUALITY BUILDING THAN THE BUILDING. WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD BEHIND.

UH THIS IS THE RENDERING OF THE BUILDING. WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING AND HAS BEEN CUSTOM DESIGNED FOR KYLE, TEXAS. UM YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT. IT'S A VERY MODERN LOOKING BUILDING.

UH, YOU MAY NOT KNOW A LOT ABOUT COUNTRY AND SUITS BY CARLSON. THEY'RE NATIONAL HOTEL COMPANY THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 10 DIFFERENT BRANDS. UH, THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES UP AND DOWN. I 35 IN AUSTIN AND IN TEMPLE, THEY UPPED THEIR GAME IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND THEY'RE REALLY PUSHING FOR A MORE MODERN AESTHETIC. ORIGINALLY THESE HOTELS WERE MORE THREE STORY WOOD FRAME WITH PITCHED ROOF AND THEY'RE MOVING IN A MODERN DIRECTION. TO KEEP UP WITH SOME OF THE OTHER BRANDS AND THEY'RE VERY INSISTENT, UM, AND

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MOTIVATED FOR US TO COME HERE. BUT IF WE PROVIDE THE BUILDING THAT IS KIND OF THEIR PROTOTYPE AND THEIR NEW IMAGE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY INTO DEVELOPING UM I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF IMAGES OF THIS THIS BUILDING. THE DOESN'T SHOW IT REAL STRONG IN THE IMAGE, BUT THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR IS STONE. UH, AND THE UPPER FLOORS ARE THERE'S A TWO BY FOUR CONCRETE PANEL THAT IS A JAMES HARDIE PRODUCT THAT'S NOT LISTED ON YOUR AGENDA AS A MASONRY PRODUCT . AND THEN THE WHITE PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS A HARDY KIND OF LAP SIDING AGAIN. IT'S A MASONRY PRODUCT THAT IS NOT LISTED AS MASONRY BY Y'ALL THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OVER SALE, WOOD SIDING OR A LESSER MATERIAL IS THAT IT'S FIREPROOF. UH IF THE BUILDING NEXT TO US CATCHES FIRE , THE CONCRETE MASONRY SIDING OR PANELS WILL PREVENT FIRE FROM SPREADING INTO THE BUILDING.

THIS IS AN EXTREMELY SAFE BUILDING. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT IT'S A SAFE BUILDING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING HERE. IT'S A FOUR STORY WOOD FRAME BUILDING WITH ONE HOUR CONSTRUCTION, UH, BUT IT'S FULLY SPRINKLED FOR N FA 13 NOT 13 ARE RESIDENTIAL. THEY'RE NOT CHEAPING OUT ON IT A FULL BLOWN SPRINKLER SYSTEM. AND WE'LL HAVE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING. IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT. WE'VE KIND OF GOT A, UM, A HEARTY PANEL THAT IS 2 FT BY 4 FT, UM, KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON THE, UH STARBUCKS. ONLY OUR PRODUCTS A LITTLE BETTER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PANEL THEY HAVE. BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S A CONCRETE BOARD. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SOMETHING ELSE. WE WANT TO DO A TRUE CONCRETE BOARD. THAT'S BUG RESISTANT, FIRE RESISTANT AND IT'S GONNA HAVE A LONG LIFE.

THIS BUILDING'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR COMMUNITY A LONG TIME, AND WE WANNA DEVELOP A GREAT PRODUCT THAT WILL BE LONG LASTING HERE. UM THE OWNER, UH, OWNS MULTIPLE HOTELS. HE'S NOT A GUY THAT HE HE. HE JUST RECENTLY SOLD SOME PROPERTY AND HE'S BUILDING SOME NEW PROPERTY, BUT HE'S NOT GONNA BUILD THIS NECESSARILY FLIP IT. GENERALLY HE BUILDS HOTELS AND HE OPERATES HOTELS. HE HAS AN OPERATING COMPANY. THEY'VE DONE MARKET RESEARCH COUNTRY IN AND SUITES BY CARLSON HAS IDENTIFIED THIS AS A MARKET IF THEY THINK CAN HOLD A PRODUCT LIKE THIS, AND, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING SOME ECONOMIC STIMULUS. HE THINKS IT IS A GREAT LOT. IT'S NOT ON I 35 IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT BACK, WHICH YOU CAN DO WITH A HOTEL AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE VISIBILITY AND ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A HEIGHT FROM THE SIGN. UH, THE BACK OF THE BUILDING HAS A SWIMMING POOL. UH, IT DOES HAVE PARKING ALL THE WAY AROUND IT. YOU KNOW, AT THE HOTEL PRODUCT, YOU'RE ALWAYS KIND OF STUCK WITH A WINDOW PATTERN. WE TRY TO BURY SOME OF THE AIR CONDITIONING AND THE GRILLS BY MAKING THEM THE SAME COLOR TO ENHANCE THE AESTHETIC OF THE BUILDING. UH YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE A LITTLE BIT THAT THERE'S THE HORIZONTAL LINES OF THE, UH, HARDY VERTICAL. UH, HORIZONTAL.

HANDLING AND THEN THE BLUE COMPONENT IS KIND OF A 2 FT BY 4 FT PANEL THAT IS, UM HAS A HAS A TEXTURE TO IT, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL ABOUT DELIVERING THAT MODERN IMAGE AND THE MODERN AESTHETIC THAT THE BRAND IS REALLY PUSHING THAT THEY WANT TO STAND OUT FROM SOME OF THE OTHER LESSER BRANDS AGAIN AROUND THE DOOR AND THE FRAMING. WE'VE GOT SOME WOOD ELEMENTS THAT ARE, UM MADE OF A ME A METAL ELEMENT. AND, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT STONE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. UH, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING IS VERY SIMILAR, UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BRAND. UH YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LIMITED SERVICE BRAND. WE'RE GONNA OFFER A FREE BREAKFAST.

THESE ARE, UH, FROM THE BRAND OF IMAGERY. YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE A MEETING ROOM. UM THIS IS SOMETHING YOUR COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF MEETING ROOMS ABOUT 36 BY 32. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HOSTING EVENTS WE HAVE, UM, WE SERVE A BREAKFAST SERVICE THAT'S FREE TO OUR GUESTS. AND WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL A WARMING KITCHEN. WE'RE NOT TRYING A RESTAURANT. WE WANT RESTAURANTS TO POP UP NEXT TO US, UM, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE NATION THAT WE HAVE THIS UNIFIED IMAGE OF WHAT THE BRAND IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY THAT STAYS IN ONE IN AMARILLO, WE WANT THEM TO HAVE AN EQUAL OR BETTER EXPERIENCE IN CAL, TEXAS. UM WE ARE PUTTING AN EXTERIOR POOL ON THE PROJECT. UM THIS IS SOMETHING THE BRAND ALSO LIKES. DEPENDING ON THE MARKET. WE'RE IN. WE PUT IT ON THE BACKSIDE BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T WANT IT TO BE RIGHT OUT THERE ON I 35 AND THIS KIND OF SHOWS SOME OF THE MORE MODERN COLOR SCHEMES OF THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING. WE HAVE FIRE PITS, AND WE HAVE TRELLISES, UH, OUTSIDE THE BUILDING TO GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE AMBIENCE AND DEVELOP A SENSE OF SPACE OF WHERE THIS IS AT. UM THESE ARE FLAT ELEVATIONS THAT JUST KIND OF SHOW THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. UH WE DO WANT IT TO HAVE SOME VARIATION IN HEIGHT. WE DON'T WANT IT TO JUST BE FALL ONE HEIGHT. UM THESE ARE SOME IMAGES FROM COUNTRY AND IN SUITES FROM ACROSS THE NATION. THIS IS KIND OF THEIR OLDER BRAND AS THEY DID TO TRANSITION AND THEN THIS IS, UH, SMITHVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA THAT JUST RECENTLY OPENED. THIS BUILDING IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE. HERE IN KYLE, TEXAS. WE'LL HAVE THE AUSTIN

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WHITE STONE ON IT. OUR COLOR SCHEME IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT . OUR CANOPY IS A LITTLE BIT NICER. OUR POOL AREA IS A LITTLE BIT NICER. THERE'S BEEN SOME UPGRADES TO THE EXERCISE ROOM AND UPGRADES TO THE POOL AREA. THAT THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN IN NORTH CAROLINA. BUT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE IMAGE YOU CAN EXPECT IN YOUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO BRING TO LET US BRING THIS BUILDING WITH ITS CONCRETE. PLANK EXTERIOR INSTEAD OF A SOLID CONCRETE PANEL EXTERIOR TO YOUR COMMUNITY. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STONE AND THE HARDY BOARD COMPONENT THAT'S WAY OVER 90% OF THE BUILDING, BUT YOU, YOU YOUR BILLING OFFICIALS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEIR HANDS ARE SOMEWHAT TIED. WE HAVE A SET OF RULES OF MASONRY IS THIS AND THEY'RE ENFORCING THE RULES. WE SHOWED THE CLIENT THE REGULATIONS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS DESIGN PROCESS, AND WE SHOWED HIM SOME CONCEPTS WITH BRICK, UH, ALL THE WAY UP AND HIS SOME OF HIS RESPONSES WERE THAT HE REALLY WANTED AND THE BRAND IS GIVING HIM AN INCENTIVE TO BUILD THE BRAND AND ITS NEW IDENTITY. THEY DON'T WANT THE OLD LOOK, THEY DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WHAT? THEY'RE NOT NATIONALLY ADVERTISING. THEY WANTED TO LOOK WHAT LIKELY THEY WERE NATIONALLY ADVERTISING. ADDITIONALLY YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT WHEN YOU SAY 100% MASONRY AND YOU'RE DOING A STARBUCKS IT'S NOT AS BIG OF A DEAL BECAUSE IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING. YOU DOING A CHICK FIL A. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING WITH A LOT OF GLASS. WHEN YOU'RE DOING A FOUR STORY HOTEL, YOUR BUILDING CODE SAYS I CANNOT STACK BRICK TALLER THAN 35 FT.

ONCE I HIT 35 FT, I GOT PUT IN A VERY EXPENSIVE STEEL FRAME. STEEL LENTILS, STEEL POSTS THE ENTIRE WRAP OF THE BUILDING TO SUPPORT ANY BRICK THAT IS ABOVE 35. FT. THIS. IS THIS IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE BRICK. TO PUT THE STRUCTURAL FRAME IN PLACE, AND ALL IT DOES IS HOLD UP THE BRICK. THIS IS NOT A COST THAT THE DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO ABSORB, AND HE REALLY WANTS THE LOOK OF THE NATIONAL BRAND. HE WANTS IT TO LOOK LIKE WHAT THE COMMERCIALS ARE GOING TO SHOW THAT ARE GONNA BE SAYING COME TO KYLE, TEXAS, THE COUNTRY AND IN SUITS. UM, WE THINK WE CAN WE CAN DEVELOP THAT, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH ENGINEERING. THERE'S A FEW MINOR THINGS IN OUR PLOT. THIS SET OF PLANS IN THE CHAIR HERE. THIS SET OF PLANS IS READY. WE'VE DRAWN IT.

WE REALLY WANT IT TO COME HERE. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR PERMISSION TO, UM, LOOK AT US AS A MODERN PRODUCT THAT IS FITTING FOR YOUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT THE FIREPROOF HARDY PANEL AS BEING A MASON DEW PRODUCT AS IT IS MADE OF MASON. BUT IT'S JUST NOT BY DEFINITION IN YOUR CODE. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT. UM WE WANNA BE IN CAL, TEXAS. WE WANNA BRING JOBS AND OPPORTUNITY HERE. WE WANT YOU TO HAVE A YOUR YOUR MEETINGS AT OUR HOTEL THE MEETING ROOM AND BRING IN YOUR CATERER FROM THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR. UM, I TALK REAL FAST. UH, I CAN SAY A LOT A LOT MORE THINGS. UM I PROBABLY MISS MISS SOME THINGS WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. UM THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES LIKE THE KYLE LOKE APARTMENTS THAT ARE JUST DOWN THE ROAD THAT HAVE STONE ON THE BUILDING IN THE FRONT, AND THEN THEY HAVE PANELING, SIDING ON THE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK. THERE'S THE BUILDINGS AROUND US HAVE STONE ON THE BOTTOM AND THEN SOMETHING ABOVE ONCE THEY GET TO 15 FT, UH, WE THINK WE'RE BRINGING A GREAT PRODUCT. WE THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR KYLE, TEXAS, TO HAVE A MODERN LOOKING BUILDING. I'M HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? YES. UM. STUCK ON AL ALTERNATIVE. THE STUCCO ALTERNATIVE. UM IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO THE, UM, THE ADVANTAGE OF THE HARDY PRODUCT OVER THE STUCCO PRODUCT IS THE STUCCO PRODUCT IS MUCH MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO HAIL DAMAGE, AND THAT'S WHY THE BRAND HAS GONE TO THIS CONCRETE PANEL. BECAUSE IF YOU GET A HALF INCH HAILSTONE, AND IT HITS THIS BUILDING, IT'S NOT GONNA IMPACT IT IF WE COULD DO THE OWNER. MIGHT BE WILLING TO DO A STUCCO RAP AND DO IT IN THE SAME COLORS IN STUCCO TO HAVE A SIMILAR APPEARANCE, BUT I THINK IT'S AN INFERIOR PRODUCT SO AS SOON AS SIMIT FIBER PRODUCT THIS IS A SIMITAR FIBER PRODUCT, BUT WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY FIBER.

IT'S A CEMENTITIOUS. THERE'S NOT ANY WOOD CHIPS OR ANYTHING IN THAT CHIPS, BUT FIBER. CERTAINLY SO, UM IT'S NOT THAT NEW. THAT TECHNOLOGY AND I HAVE MY OWN OPINIONS ABOUT IT. BUT HERE'S THE SITUATION WE'RE IN. THE OVERLAY HAS CERTAIN STANDARDS WITH WHICH YOU'RE WELL AWARE,

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AND THEY'RE FAIRLY SET STANDARDS. I WAS NOT AROUND FOR THE CONVERSATIONS THAT LED TO THOSE STANDARDS. THEY HAD TO REASON. AND I WANT THESE OLD GUYS THAT SAYS, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASON FOR SOMETHING EXISTING. YOU BETTER CHECK IT OUT CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU CHANGE SOMETHING. SO IN THAT RESPECT, UM YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING A DECISION HERE AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT. UM. TO GO FURTHER WITH THAT, UH, WE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. I BELIEVE A VARIANCE FOR HEIGHT FOR THE SAME BUILDING AT THE SAME PROPERTY.

AND THERE WAS NO PROBLEM IN MY OPINION, AND IN FACT MADE THAT POINT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTING A VARIANCE FOR HEIGHT. HOWEVER, WHAT I LEARNED AT CITY COUNCIL IS THAT THEY HAD A VERY STRONG. REACTION TO A VARIANCE OF THAT KIND. EVEN. SUCH THAT IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME WELL, IT WAS A 4 TO 3 SPLIT VOTE TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE. NOW WHERE I COME TO AT THIS POINT IS THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTAND. THERE'S A REASON FOR OK? AND NUMBER TWO. I UNDERSTAND THE& COUNCIL'S POSITION PREVIOUSLY ON THIS AND COMING BACK TO THEM AGAIN. I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD GET A BETTER RESPONSE. UM THAT BEING THE CASE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANYONE ELSE THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER SHIEL IF YOU CAN GO BACK ACTUALLY TO. I THINK IT'S THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE, WHICH HAD THE UM DIFFERENT. THAT ONE? YES. SO FROM LOOKING AT THIS.

THE GRAY MATERIAL THAT LOOKS LIKE SQUARES. WHAT IS THAT MATERIAL ALL THE WAY UP. THAT'S A THAT'S A 2. FT BY 4 FT. UH, CONCRETE, UM, BOARD PRODUCT. IT'S PAINTED, WHICH IS THE SAME PRODUCT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR K, TEXAS. IT'S THE SAME PRODUCT. OK WHAT IS THE SQUARE TILE ALL THE WAY UP THE WEIGHT. AND LEAVE. THE WHITE IS NOT A SQUARE TILE. UH, I DID I IT LOOKS OK.

RECTANGULAR UH, IT'S PROBABLY A CEMENT PANEL. SIMILARLY WE'RE ASKING FOR A LAP PANEL, WHICH IS WHAT'S IN THEIR PROTOTYPE DESIGN. OK I WOULD PREFER THIS BECAUSE THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE LAP. WOOD PANELS. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S NOT WOOD PANELS, BUT IF. WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE THIS BECAUSE THAT LOOKS LIKE MORE LIKE CONCRETE STONE. AT LEAST DOES THAT MAKE SENSE SO THAT IT FALLS IN LINE WITH OUR OVERLAY, AT LEAST IN APPEARANCE.

AND I AND I THINK OUR CLIENT WOULD BE WILLING TO GO FROM LAP SIDING TO THE HEARTY PANELS WITH THE REVEALS. IF THAT WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, I THINK THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THAT STEP BECAUSE I THINK THAT LOOKS HIGHER END. WHAT'S ON THIS PICTURE, THEN JUST LAP SIDING.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU ON THERE. UM THAT'S THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION THERE. I DIDN'T I THOUGHT THIS WAS ALL STONE BECAUSE I LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF YOUR THE PICTURES ONLINE AND YOU KNOW IT WAS SAYING ABOUT THE BRAND. AND I WAS SEEING DIFFERENT KIND. UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ST YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT FACADES AND IN COLLEGE STATION. YOU HAVE BRICK. ALL THE WAY UP TO THREE STORIES. UM AND THEN, IN A COUPLE OF OTHERS YOU HAVE STONE AND BRICK ALL THE WAY UP.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS LIKE. WELL IF THIS IS A BRAND, I'M SEEING A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT LOOKS FOR IT TO BE A BRAND WELL IN THE BRAND'S BEEN AROUND FOR MORE THAN TWO DECADES , SO IT'S EVOLVED AND THIS IS THE THIS IS THE NEW PRODUCT. THEY'RE TRYING TO PUSH AND ADVERTISE. BUT ORIGINALLY IT WAS A THREE STORY PITCHED ROOF. RT BILL. OK, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JAMES. SO AS MUCH AS YOU HAVE A BRAND I THINK THE REASON THAT WE PUT A LOT OF THINGS IN IT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A BRAND AND WHAT WE WANNA SEE. AND SO I WANNA KNOW WHAT? TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE WITH YOURSELF AND THE CITY. BUT HOW YOU HAVE ATTEMPTED TO COME TO A TO A MEDIATION POINT BEFORE COMING TO US AND ASKING FOR A FULL TOTAL COMPLETE, NOT LISTEN TO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING WELL, WE DID A PRE DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH THE CITY AND WE DID A MEETING WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE UTILITIES IN THE FRONT AND SETTING BACK THE BUILDING TO GET THE PORTICO AIR OUT OF THE 50 FT EASEMENT THAT WAS NEEDED FOR THE FUTURE SEWER LINE EXTENSION. UH, AS FAR AS THE BUILDING MATERIALS WE DID SOME STUDIES WITH THE CLIENT AND THE CLIENT EXPRESS TO US THAT HE WANTED TO STAY WITH WHAT THE BRAND STANDARD WAS. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CITY. UM SO IF I IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, SO WE WENT BACK

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AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT AND ESPECIALLY AFTER UM, THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION WITH THE HIGH EXCEPTION. WE, UM, CAME BACK TO THEM AND UM HAD EXPRESSED COUNCIL'S OPINIONS TO THEM AND, UM ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO BRING ANYTHING TO THE COMMISSION. THAT'S NOT COMPLIANT. THAT'S NEVER OUR GOAL . BUT ULTIMATELY IF THE APPLICANT, UM CHOOSES TO ASK FOR THE REQUEST, UM, FOR THE EXCEPTION, THEN WE WILL BRING IT IF THAT IS THEIR REQUEST, SO THERE THERE WAS SOME BACK AND FORTH IN. THIS WAS, UM, KIND OF THE RESULT OF THAT. THERE WAS A TEAMS MEETING WITH THE STAFF AND OWNERSHIP SO THAT THEY SO OWNERSHIP CAN MAKE A DIRECT DECISION. QUESTION NUMBER TWO. HANG ON BEFORE YOU GO INTO NUMBER TWO. LET ME SEE IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO JUMP IN WITH ONE. IT'S LIKE COMMISSIONER OK? YEAH, THERE, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME STONE ADDED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING, AND THE COURSE OF IT ARE MORE MORE COURSING.

THAT WASN'T THERE, BUT IT'S MAINLY FOCUSED ON THE FIRST FLOOR. AND I THINK WE INSTEAD OF DOING THE BRANDS STONE. WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S AUSTIN WON. OK? I'M ALSO AWARE THAT BRANDS ARE VISUAL THINGS. THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS THE MATERIALS. IF WE WERE TO DENY THIS. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE? WHAT COULD YOU NOT MAKE IT? LOOK LIKE IT DOES RIGHT NOW. SOME OTHER MATERIAL. I'M AN ARCHITECT , AND I WORK FOR MY CLIENT AND I CAN MAKE THAT BUILDING LOOK A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS, BUT I'VE BEEN GIVEN A DIRECTIVE OF WHAT HE'S WANTING TO DO. BUT SO YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO ACHIEVE IT? IF YOUR CLIENT TOLD YOU TO DO SO WE COULD. WE COULD DO, UH, AC M PANELS. WE COULD DO LIMESTONE.

WE COULD DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE REALITY OF IT IS BY DOING THOSE THINGS. IT TAKES IT FROM A $14 MILLION BUILDING TO A BUILDING. THAT'S WELL BEYOND THAT. THAT MAY NOT BE WILLING TO BE ACHIEVED BY HIS FINANCIAL MODEL. ONE. GO BACK. OK, GO AHEAD. SO IN CASES YOU SAY YOU DO. YEAH, YOU'VE PROBABLY DONE THIS KIND OF THING ACROSS MANY DIFFERENT CITIES IN TEXAS. SO WHEN YOU COME TO A SPACE LIKE THIS, AND WE DO SAY NOW, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE DIFFERENTLY? ONE WAY YOU SAID THAT WE CAN'T COME TO THIS SORT OF AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. UH THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN. UH, WE'VE HAD CASES WHERE WE'VE APPEALED IT TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY WANTED THE PROJECT. WE'VE HAD CASES WHERE THE OWNER HAS SAID. I'LL PICK THE BUILDING UP AND MOVE IT. UP BY 35. ANOTHER LOCATION. UH, HE STOPPED PURCHASED THIS LAND. HE HAS IT UNDER CONTRACT FOR PURCHASE. WE NEED TO GET THIS APPROVED AND WE NEED TO GET THE SITE PLATTED CORRECTLY. IN ORDER FOR THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. HE'S INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY PAYING FOR ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING AND CIVIL ENGINEERING EXPENSES, THINKING THAT THIS IS THE BEST LOCATION AND HE'S WANTING TO INVEST IN YOUR COMMUNITY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IF HE HAS A FINANCIAL MODEL THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR KYLE, TEXAS, THAT'S THE HIS DECISION AS THE ARCHITECT. I'M GONNA DO WHAT I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT HIS DREAMS COME TRUE. AND I'M ASSUMING HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT. HE IS NOT. HE HAD OTHER OBLIGATIONS. HE'S GOT YOUNG CHILDREN. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY UM, THE APPLICANTS WAIVER. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION. THERE A SECOND. SECOND. OK WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHIELD TO DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SERATO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? COMMISSIONER JAMES. SO I'M NOT FOR DENYING IT BECAUSE THIS GIVES JUST A DIRECT STRAIGHT APPROVAL PROCESS. THE COUNCIL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US COME BACK AND ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE COME TO THIS POINT WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN OR CITY PROCESSES. I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT WHAT COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR. THE ARCTIC AND THE APPLICANT FOR THE APPLICANT. IT'S YOUR PLAN. HAVE COME HERE AGAINST THOSE SORT OF THINGS AND ASK US FOR SOMETHING THAT WE THAT THE CITY HAS ASKED.

OUR CITY IS KNOWN. WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO APPROVE, AND ALSO THAT

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COUNCIL IS NOT NECESSARILY ROLL WITH. SO I WOULD LIKE I. I WOULD PREFER US TABLE IT. AND GIVE IT GIVE THEM SOME TIME TO TALK. FOR DIRECTLY LETTING COUNCIL OVERTURN THIS DECISION BECAUSE I THINK IT GIVES SOME COOL OFF TIME. TO ALLOW SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE BROUGHT UP WHETHER IT'S UM LIKE FOR TO THE RIGHT RIGHT HERE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC LIKE LAP VERSUS, UH, STONE WORK OR LIKE WHAT MATERIALS ARE IN THEM. I DEFINITELY THINK THERE'S A COMPROMISE HERE WITHOUT US DIRECTLY GOING TO COUNCIL. I JUST SEE THAT I'M WILLING TO, UM REVOKE MY AMENDMENT. MY MOTION IN TABLING. I'M WILLING TO DO THAT, IF THE SECOND IS WILLING TO. YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE A REQUEST. TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO US LATER DATE. I WILL SUCK AT THAT MOTION. OK? SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER STIEGEL TO TABLE THE REQUEST AND BE BROUGHT BACK TO US THAT SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JAMES WHAT ARE PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON THAT? I THINK UH, LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD. I THINK THAT'S A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT OPTION. UM IT'S UNPLEASANT WHEN WE HAVE A TWO PARTIES COME TO ARGUE IN FRONT OF US WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED OUTSIDE OF, UH OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM, AND, UH, A SOLUTION BE BROUGHT TO US. NOT A PROBLEM. YOU CREATED A PROBLEM FOR US. UM AND SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SOLVE IT WITH, YOU KNOW, AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STAFF. BUT THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS IF I GOT DIRECTION FROM Y'ALL TONIGHT THAT IF WE WENT TO A SQUARE LOOP WITH CONCRETE PANELS, OR WE WENT AWAY FROM CONCRETE BOARD AND WENT TO ETUS, AND THAT YOU WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IT MAKES THE JOB MUCH EASIER FOR US TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT IS AMENABLE TO YOU. IF YOUR SOLUTION IS YOU'RE EITHER GONNA DO 100% BRICK ON YOUR BUILDING OR YOU DON'T BUILD IN KYLE, TEXAS, THAT MAY BE HOW IT IS PERCEIVED, AND I DON'T THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO ME TONIGHT, BUT STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY. PARTY BOARD IS ALLOWED BECAUSE IT IS A CEMENT SPORT. HARDY BOARD IS ALLOWED. IF IT'S TWO BY FOUR AND MODULAR, WE WILL WILL ALLOW EIS WITH TILE APPLIQUES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL INVESTMENT OF HAVING TO SUPPORT TRUE MASONRY AT 35 FT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS IS SO THAT MY CLIENT WHO WILL VIEW ALL THIS AND WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION , PROBABLY IN THE MORNING CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE SHOULD GO WITH THIS PROJECT. I. UH I'M A FAN OF THE HARDY PRODUCTS, HARDY BOARD AND HARDY SIDING. I THINK IT'S A FABULOUS STRUCTURAL PRODUCT.

THAT THE ISSUE HERE IS THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE BUILDING. AND I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME WAY TO COME TO HAVE A THE ELEVATION, UM, LOOKED LIKE, UH, HIGH QUALITY. UH PRODUCT THAT FITS WITHIN, UH, AT AT LEAST THE COLOR PALETTE AND LOOK AND FEEL OF THE OVERLAY, AND MAYBE IT CAN BE DONE WITH THE HARDY PRODUCTS. UM THAT'S I THINK A LOT OF IT'S TO DO WITH TEXTURE. YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FROM FROM A SIMPLE ELEVATION TO SEE WHAT THE TEXTURES ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE TO SEE HOW THE COLOR PALETTE WILL WORK TOGETHER. YOU SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE OF SOME WOOD GRAIN ON THE SIDE IN THE FRONT. I THINK IT'S WOOD GRAIN. IS IT WOOD GRAIN? OR IS IT JUST BROWN? IT'S WOOD GRAIN. YEAH, SO, SO THAT'S NICE TOUCHES, AND SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A WAY TO COME COME TO IT. UM THAT THAT'S MY THOUGHT. AND YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT ABOUT THE, UM YOU KNOW THE STUCCO BEING A AAA MORE LESS DURABLE PRODUCT THAN THAN HARDY HARDY, YOU KNOW, WELL, WELL KNOWN IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, BUT IT'S JUST MAKING IT WITH THE LOOK AND FEEL THAT FITS IN WITH THE OVERLAY. UH, AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT A FULL ANSWER, BUT I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO GET THERE. THAT WAS THE FIRST PERSON THAT MENTIONED HE HAD A PROBLEM WITH COLOR. IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH COLOR? MM MM. SO THERE IF I IF I MAY, THERE IS THERE IS A SMALL SECTION OF THE I 35 OVERLAY THAT GIVES PREFERENCE TO RED BRICK AND WHITE LIMESTONE. UM, SO THAT'S I'M ASSUMING. WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING. IT IS. AND THEN IF I MAY AGAIN, THE OTHER THING WITH THE WITH THE HARDY SIDING IS IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A MASONRY PRODUCT. SO IF THAT'S THE FEEDBACK, YOU WANT TO GIVE STAFF THAT YOU'RE OK WITH MORE HEARTY SIDING. THAT'S KIND OF FEEDBACK

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THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR MOVING FORWARD. LET ME BE CLEAR. THAT'S THE FEEDBACK FROM THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER NOW I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE FOR THE WHOLE PANEL. COMMISSIONER JAMES YEAH, I. THE DIRECTION THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE. THIS IS THIS I DON'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN WHAT YOUR FINANCIAL MODELS ARE, AREN'T I HAVEN'T A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CITIZENS OF KYLE ARE LOOKING FOR AND I. I RESPECT THE STANCE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE REPRESENTING YOUR CLIENT. I REPRESENT CLIENTS ALL THE TIME. SO AND ESPECIALLY IN SETTINGS LIKE THIS. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. BUT WHEN. IF WHAT IF WHAT THE STAFF NEEDED WAS TO HEAR THAT WE ARE MORE ACCEPTABLE TO HARDY BOARD. FINE COOL. THAT PROBABLY SOLVES IT. I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A KNOWN A VERY KNOWN PRODUCT. WE SEE IT IN A QUITE A BIT OF SPACES. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME REASONS WHY WE DON'T USE IT IN SPECIFIC PLACES. AND, UM YOU KNOW THIS? THIS SEEMS TO BE AN OK USE OF IT, UM MAYBE. UM BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FROM STEP ON THAT THE NEXT TIME WE SEE YOU TO MAKE SURE ON THAT IS WHY UM BECAUSE WHEN WE MAKE THESE KIND OF STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT WE WANT, AND I SEE YOU IN IN OUR SPECIFIC AREAS LIKE THERE IS A BIG REASON FOR IT. I THINK COMMISSIONER STEEL SAID IT WELL, WHICH IS THAT LIKE WE SHOULDN'T TAKE THESE KIND OF THINGS LIGHTLY AS WE DON'T SPECIFICALLY KNOW THE REASON FOR IT. BECAUSE ALMOST NONE OF US WERE HERE WHEN THIS KIND OF STUFF WAS DECIDED, AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF DIRECTION I WANT TO SEE IS SOME SORT OF SOMETHING. YOU ALL CAN COME TO A LITTLE BIT OF A CONSENSUS WITH TO COME BACK, AND EVEN IF YOU COME BACK WITH IT WITH A SIMILAR REQUEST BUT SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE MORE TO TOGETHER. WE CAN. THEN INTERNALLY WE TALK TO FOLKS ON COUNCIL. HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT WE AT LEAST GAVE IT OUR ALL TO GET TO WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, AS WELL, CAUSE WE SERVE AS AN EXTENSION OF THEM. WE'RE APPOINTED BY THEM. SO I DON'T WANNA SET Y'ALL UP FOR FAILURE, EITHER WHEN YOU GET TO COUNCIL AND HEAR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. WELL, AND I THINK I THINK OUR FIRM AND OUR CLIENT ARE WILLING TO, UH WORK TO MAKE IT BETTER, BUT WE DON'T WANNA WORK BLINDLY WITH IF WE KNOW THAT PANEL IT TO SQUARES, NOT DOING SIDING DOING A DIFFERENT PRODUCT. PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE STONE CAN BE PUT ON SOME OF THE BUILDINGS. MAYBE INSTEAD OF ONE STORY, IT GOES A STORY AND A HALF TO MAKE IT HAVE A LITTLE STRONGER STANCE. WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CLIENTS GOALS AND BRING IT BACK TO STAFF FOR APPROVAL AND STAFF'S BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL TO WORK WITH, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE I CAN'T TELL YOU IT'S OK BECAUSE THEY NEED YOU ALL TO GIVE INPUT. SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, IF NEIL WANTS TO CHANGE ALL THE WHITE TO TWO INCH FOAM WITH HEAVY REVEALS AND HIGH IMPACT EAS THAT'S SOMETHING SIMILAR. THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW. AND THAT WOULD GIVE THE BUILDING ANOTHER MATERIAL. YOU'D HAVE SIDING FOR THE DARKER COLOR EUS FOR THE LIGHTER COLOR STONE AT THE BASE AND THAT YOU KNOW IT BUILDS ON ITSELF, RIGHT? MANAGER. YES I IT SEEMS THAT YOU'RE SEEKING VERY SPECIFIC GUIDANCE AND AGAIN. THIS IS WHERE IT'S OUT OF MY ROOM. I ACTUALLY PERSONALLY PREFER CEMENTITIOUS PRODUCTS WHERE THEY'RE APPLICABLE. UM BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ASKING FOR GUIDANCE IN THE USE OF SOME OTHER PANELS, OR, UH, ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS. AND I HAVE, UH, NO ABILITY TO, UH, MAKE ANY JUDGMENTS ABOUT THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT. UM, SO THIS IS WHY I. MADE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS SO THAT THERE IS TIME TO HASH THIS OUT, SO WE ALL HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION POSSIBLE TO GO FORWARD WITH A DECISION. I KNOW THAT KIND OF LEAVES YOU COMING UP WITH OPTIONS, A B AND C OR SOMETHING FOR US TO CONSIDER. PERHAPS BUT I REALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JAMES IN THAT, UM, HAVING SEEN WHAT HAPPENED TO COUNSEL WHEN I WAS LAST THERE, CONSIDERING THE VARIANCE OF THIS PROPERTY BEFORE I THINK THAT IT WOULD RUN INTO SOME HEAVY FIRE TO BE LOOKING AT A VARIANCE SOME SUBSTANTIALLY TO THE I 35 OVERLAY. AND WHAT THE BLOWBACK FROM THAT WOULD BE, AND IT WOULD BE QUITE UNDERSTANDABLE. SO IF IT WAS A 4 TO 3 SPLIT, THEN UM, WE'RE GETTING INTO BUILDING MATERIALS. NOW WE WORK WITH THAT MORE OFTEN HERE THAN THEY DO. AND I THINK THAT THEY WOULD REALLY, UH, JUST RIGHT OFF THE CUFF HAVE A, UH, UNCOMFORTABLE REACTION WITH THE WHOLE PROCESS. THEY WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. I CAN. IT IS MY OPINION. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION. HEY, THERE, COMMENTS . UH YEAH. SO I JUST WANTED TO

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SAY REAL QUICK. I DO SYMPATHIZE WITH THE STATEMENT IN THE SUMMARY LETTER THAT YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE BRAND YOU YOU KNOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE BRAND IDENTITY I. I DO SYMPATHIZE WITH THAT. BUT LIKE THEY'VE SET UP HERE ARE OUR DUTY IS TO OUR CITY AND, UM THIS ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AS THEY'VE MENTIONED. I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY HARDY BOARD WAS LEFT OFF OF THAT LIST, AND I THINK IT'S NICE TO HAVE THIS TABLED FOR A BIT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE STAFF EXPLORE THAT AND PROVIDE US WITH INFORMATION.

MAYBE THAT HELPS US COME TO COME TO TERMS WITH WHAT THAT REASON WAS. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD LOOKING BUILDING. UM YOU KNOW IF WE COULD GET IT TO SAY A BIT MORE, KYLE, I'M ALWAYS GAME FOR THAT. UM SO I HOPE THAT DURING THE TABLING UM YOU KNOW WE CAN WORK ON THIS SOME MORE. WE AS IN Y'ALL CAN WORK ON THIS SOME MORE AND, UH, BRING IT CLOSER TO COMPLIANCE IF YOU EVEN IF YOU CAN'T GET PERFECTLY TO 90% CLOSER TO COMPLIANCE. UH I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE HAVING THIS PRODUCT SO CLOSE TO OUR CITY AND OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, SO YES. UM, I AGREE. I'VE SPOKEN TO THE FACT I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN ATTRACTIVE ASSET FOR THE TOWN AND ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN. UM BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE LOCAL PERCEPTION IS THAT WE'RE BEING OVERRUN BY DEVELOPMENT. AND DEVELOPMENT OF A KIND THAT IS, UH, WITH WHICH PEOPLE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE OFTENTIMES THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, WHETHER IT'S DESIGN ELEMENTS , THE BASIC ARCHITECTURE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THEY'RE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT. AND THE COUNCIL. UH, MAY REFLECT THAT TIME TO TIME BECAUSE THEY HEAR ABOUT IT. I HEAR ABOUT IT. UM YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY WIDE ISSUE. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THIS BUILDING AND THIS LOCATION THAT WHAT INFORMS OUR VIEWS AND OPINIONS HAS TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, AND THEY'RE SENTIMENTS AND, FRANKLY, THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, OVERRUN THIS TOWN AND HAVING A BELIEF THAT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE SOME TRUST IN MANAGING THIS THESE AFFAIRS REALLY AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL. AND I WANT THEM TO VERY MUCH HAVE A, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING THAT IN FACT, WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION. ALL RIGHT. UM SO AGAIN, THE MOTION IS TO TABLE THE REQUEST AND HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE. UM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

PLEASE SAY I, I ALL POST. OK, HERE WE GO. THANK YOU. WE WORK WITH STAFF. DO ANY OF Y'ALL WANT INDIVIDUALLY BE COPIED ON SOME OF THE PRELIMINARIES? THEY SHOULD. ONLY STAFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OK? NEXT. WE'VE GOT ITEM 5.2. CONSIDER A REQUEST TO CONSTRUCT

[2. Consider a request to construct an approximately 3,987-square-foot restaurant building located at 21565 IH-35. Pollo Regio - Conditional Use Permit (CUP-23-0096)]

AN APPROXIMATELY 3987 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT BUILDING. LOCATED AT 21, 5 65 IH 35 POLLO REGIO. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CUP 23-0096 M SHARP OK? ALRIGHT KAYLA SHARP CITY PLANNER FOR THE RECORD. UM WE'LL GET ME AGAIN. UM SO THIS IS A ANOTHER CONDITIONALLY USED PERMIT. UM THAT MUCH FORWARD TOO FAST. UM, FOR A, UM FAST FOOD RESTAURANT LOCATED AT 21565 AGE 35. JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF, UM, THE LAST PROJECT WE CONSIDERED. UM SO I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO TELL WHERE IT IS. BUT IT IS, UM, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHERE MARKETPLACE KIND OF, UM DEAD ENDS INTO I 35 IT'S ACROSS. I 35 FROM THAT ALONG THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD NEXT TO THE WINDMILL CENTER. UM IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROJECT, UM SO THIS WILL BE A LITTLE UNDER 4000 SQUARE FOOT. THAT IS NOT RIGHT. THAT'S NOT SHELL BUILDING. IT IS A RESTAURANT BUILDING. MY APOLOGIES. UM AND THE MATERIALS CONSIST PRIMARILY OF STONE AND BRICK WITH APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO ACCENT THE BUILDING. HERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A ZOOMED OUT, UH, MAP SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A BETTER IDEA. OF WHERE IT'S AT.

AND THEN BLACK AND WHITE. AGAIN THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ, BUT THE COLOR RENDERINGS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR. UM IT'S ALMOST ENTIRELY UM BRICK AND STONE. HAS THE APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS AND THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. SIDE IN THE BACK. AND THEN HERE IS THE SITE

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PLAN. AND LANDSCAPE SHEET. AND THEN THIS REQUEST IS COMPLIANT WITH THE I 35 OVERLAY AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. ANY QUESTIONS? VERY SMALL QUESTION, BUT ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF IT. I SEE. AS WE HAVE OFTEN SEEN BEFORE THREE TREES OF DIFFERENT SPECIES I BELIEVE ARE ALL PLANTED IN ONE RELATIVELY SMALL AREA AND THESE TREES MATURE TO QUITE SOME SIZE RELATIVE TO THAT AREA. ANY, UH. THOUGHTS ON THAT PARTICULAR IN THAT UPPER RIGHT PART OF THE DIAGRAM THERE ALONGSIDE THE DRIVE AND. UM I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THESE, UH, SPECIES OF TREES. GENERALLY IF THEY FALL UNDER OUR, UM, LIST OF APPROVED TREES THEY ALLOWED.

THERE'S ALSO UM IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE SITE. THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR YOU KNOW, LIKE STREET TREES, LIKE HOW FAR APART THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. UM AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF TREES ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE. UM WE DO HAVE TO HAVE LANDSCAPE PLANS THAT ARE APPROVED BY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT SO I AM ASSUMING THAT THEY HAVE DONE THEIR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TREES ARE COMPATIBLE, UM, THAT CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. THAT'S A GOOD SELECTION OVERALL, AND EVERYTHING IS JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE PRACTICALITY OF THAT, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CITY, SO MANY NEW TREES ARE PLANTED. QUITE OFTEN. THEY'RE NOT SPACED APPROPRIATELY AND YOU SEE THIS OVERCROWDING AND PEOPLE THINK IT'S A TRIMMING PROBLEM WHEN IT WAS A PLANTING PROBLEM.

BUT, UH. I THINK THAT WAS AN INTERESTING QUESTION. UM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MR MR LUTZ.

THOUGHTS ON THAT BECAUSE HE KNOWS A LOT ABOUT TREES. LOOTS HE IS MORE OF THE TREE EXPERT THAN ME. UM SORRY. COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH ON ON ANOTHER ISSUE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO ON THE, UM LANDSCAPE PLAN, THERE'S THREE TREES THAT ARE CLOSELY PLACED TOGETHER. UM THE TREE TYPES THAT ARE LISTED ARE MEXICAN, SYCAMORE, MONTEREY, MEXICAN WHITE OAK AND CEDAR ELM. IT'S KINDA HARD TO TELL WHICH TREES. ARE PUT TOGETHER, BUT, UM , WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE BEING ABLE TO GROW TOGETHER IN A SPACE THAT SMALL? GENERALLY IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THEY ARE, THEY ARE PLANTED AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEY ARE OF THE SAME SIZE. THEY WILL NATURALLY GROW TOGETHER AND LEARN TO ADAPT. UM IF ONE OF THEM DOES FAIL OR DIE OUT, THEN AT THAT POINT, IT'S YOUNG ENOUGH THAT IT CAN BE REPLANTED. UM IT'S GENERALLY WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE GETTING SITUATIONS WHERE MAYBE YOU'VE GOT AN ESTABLISHED TREE IN THE VICINITY AND YOU'RE PLANTING SMALLER SAPLINGS. THOSE LARGER TREES. STRANGLE OUT OR KILL OUT THE SMALLER ONES, BUT GENERALLY IF YOU CAN PUT THEM IN TOGETHER, THEY SHOULD, UM COALESCE, BUT. II. I CAN'T PREDICT THAT FUTURE. BUT IF ONE OF THEM WERE TO PASS OR OR FAIL, THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD JUST LOOK AT REPLANTING. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT SITE BECAUSE CLEARLY IT WAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT. THE CITY WOULD ENFORCE THE REPLANT IF SOMETHING WERE TO DIE. YES ANY REQUIRED LANDSCAPING? UH, THIS PART OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU. THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES COMMISSIONER JAMES SO LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN. I SEE ONE D. ONE NOT DRIVE THROUGH LANE IS THAT FAIR? THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.

THERE IS, UM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE. DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH LANE AROUND THE BUILDING.

THERE'S LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SO IS ONE OF THESE IS MY ASSUMPTION ON THIS, THAT ONE OF THESE SINGULAR DRIVE THROUGH OR IS THIS AN EXTENSION DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH? UM I AM NOT 100% SURE. SOMETIMES IT'S FOR, UM, FIRE ACCESS TO THE BUILDING. AND SOMETIMES IT'S UM, A WRAPAROUND ONLINE SO PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW? GET OUT OF THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE AND GO AROUND. UM IT. I ASSUME THERE COULD ALWAYS BE POTENTIAL FOR A DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH LANE. BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I BELIEVE IT'S JUST A SINGLED. YEAH. RIGHT? I'M BRIAN CLAPTON WITH ID STUDIO FOUR ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING FIRM IN DALLAS, REPRESENTING POO RADIO. UH, THAT IS FOR A BYPASS LINK. THERE A SINGLE DRIVE. IT'S A SINGLE. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OK? WE WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM. I MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OK WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SHIEL AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SERATO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION?

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OK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. PLEASE SAY I. OPPOSING. HERE WE GO. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 5.3 CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF AN APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT

[3. Consider a request for an extension of an approved conditional use permit to construct an approximately 53,877-square-foot hotel building located at 5887 Kyle Parkway. Extended Stay Hotel - Conditional Use Permit (CUP-23-0075)]

TO CONSTRUCT AN APPROXIMATELY 53,877 SQUARE FOOT HOTEL BUILDING LOCATED AT 5887. KYLE PARKWAY. EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CUP DASH 23-0075. MISS SHARP. KAYLA SHARP CITY PLANNER FOR THE RECORD LAST ONE FOR ME TONIGHT, I PROMISE. UM SO THIS IS AN EXTENSION REQUEST FOR A EXTENDED STAY. AMERICA HOTEL, LOCATED AT 5887 KYLE PARKWAY. UM HERE IS THE LOCATION. UM YOU CAN SEE SINCE YOU LAST CONSIDERED THIS REQUEST , THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS IS NEAR THE HOBBY LOBBY AND ACADEMY THAT WERE, UH, JUST OPENED RECENTLY. AND THE WAFFLE HOUSE GOING IN NEXT DOOR. UM SO Y'ALL APPROVED THIS REQUEST? UM, FEBRUARY 28TH 2023 ALMOST A YEAR AGO, UM AND CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN MARCH OF 2024. THEY'RE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF SITE DEVELOPMENT AND PERMITS WRAPPING THOSE UP AS WE SPEAK. UM AND SO BEFORE WE HIT THAT ONE YEAR MARK WHERE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD EXPIRE, UM, SINCE THERE IS NO WORK BEING DONE ON THE SITE CURRENTLY I HAD MORE TEXTS AFTER THAT. SORRY, UM. IF THERE'S NO WORK BEING DONE ON THE SITE, UM WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE APPROVAL DATE OF THE CUP. IT EXPIRES. UM SO TO GET AHEAD OF THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS EXTENSION AS THEY PLAN TO BREAK GROUND SOON. UM SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A REMINDER HERE IS THAT SITE. IT'S I BELIEVE AROUND 100 AND 20 ROOMS. UM AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THEIR LAST REQUEST . THIS IS SIMPLY AN EXTENSION, UM, TO KEEP THAT CUP ACTIVE. THERE RENDERINGS. UM SO CUPS LIKE I SAID, ARE VALID FROM, UH ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE OF THE PRO OF APPROVAL. UM AND THEY HAVE NOT PASSED ONE YEAR. SO THIS IS AN EXTENSION REQUEST INSTEAD OF A NEW APPLICATION. UM AND WE SUPPORT THIS EXCEPTION AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER JAMES. SO. EXPLAIN TO ME. UM. WHAT THE ASSURANCES ARE THAT THEY WILL BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN MARCH. AND NOT DELAY IT IN ANY SORT OF WAY. SO I WILL SAY I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UM, A REPRESENTATIVE ONLINE AS WELL. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, UM, WE ACTIVELY THEY REQUESTED THIS EXTENSION, UM, AND STATED THAT THEY PLAN TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. UM, IN MARCH OR SHORTLY AFTER, UM I DID GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PERMITS FOR THE SITE PLAN AND THE BUILDING PERMIT AND THEY THEY ARE VERY CLOSE TO WRAPPING THOSE UP. UM, SO AS FAR AS CITY STAFF KNOWS, AS FAR AS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE DEVELOPER, THEY FULLY INTEND TO. UM, BEGIN CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ONCE THEY WRAP UP THOSE PERMITS. COMMISSIONER SHIEL AND HOW LONG ARE THE EXTENSIONS? UH USUALLY SO IT IT'S. GENERALLY WE GO ANOTHER YEAR. UM WE HAVE IN THE PAST DONE SIX MONTHS, BUT GENERALLY IT WOULD BE FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND IT'S THEY PRETTY MUCH JUST HAVE TO BREAK GROUND AND SHOW ACTIVE PROGRESS ON THE SITE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, BE FULLY OPEN AND OPERATIONAL WITHIN A YEAR. OK, THANK YOU. MR JAMES. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE WE GAVE A SIX MONTH EXTENSION TO THE WAFFLE HOUSE NEXT DOOR. CORRECT CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OK, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ITEM. DOES ANYONE HAVE EMOTION? YES. I MOVE THAT WE EXTEND THE CU BY SIX MONTHS. SECOND. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY SIX MONTHS FROM COMMISSIONER JAMES AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER STIEGEL. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? YES, JAMES. YES I MEAN THE MOTION. I'LL GO AHEAD AND TALK IN THE FORWARD PART OF IT. UM YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK IF THEY'RE GONNA BREAK GROUND PRETTY SOON, THEY DON'T NEED A FULL ONE YEAR EXTENSION. GIVE HIM A SIX MONTH EXTENSION. UM, WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN HOW THESE HAVE BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD BEFORE. UM AND SO I DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE IT TO WHERE YOU KNOW WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS IN. BUT

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ALSO NOT GIVE THEM TOO MUCH TIME IN CASE THAT, YOU KNOW. THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO DELAY MUCH LONGER. THAT THEY CAN FOR ANY REASON IN THIS PROCESS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. HEY KAYLA, THIS IS MARIO. UH, YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE, UH, HOTEL OR ARE THEY, UH WOULD THEY LIKE TO DISCUSS IF THEY'RE OK WITH THE 61. OR PROVIDING THE EXPLANATION FOR THE REQUEST. SO EXTENSION REQUEST? YEAH, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ONLINE. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT YES. UM, TH TH THIS IS GEORGE GONZALEZ. I'M WITH SOUTHLAND CONSULTING ENGINEERS. UM REALLY WERE VERY ANXIOUS TO GET STARTED. THE MAIN REASON EASEMENT COORDINATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH. UM WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND PREPARING FOR THIS PROJECT, UM REALLY, THE SEWER THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TIE INTO IS ONLY 2.5 FT. DEEP. VERY, VERY SHALLOW, UM TO TIE INTO SO WE'VE GONE LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH WITH ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND. AND UM, AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND WERE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO FINALIZING THE AN EASEMENT GOING TO THE NORTH.

THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GET THE GRAVITY SEWER TO TIE INTO AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PROPERTY OF THE NORTH. UM I THINK, UH, WE'RE WE'RE PROBABLY AT THE TR LIGHT ON THAT ONE. UM ON THE OPPONENTS TO YARD LINE, NOT ON OUR OWN TWO YARD LINE. UM SO, UH, SO, YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE ALMOST THERE. BUT AS AS SOON AS WE GET THAT WE'LL BE READY TO GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND.

THAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN THE SIX MONTH EXTENSION. IT IT IT ACTUALLY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE REALLY RIGHT THERE. OK? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. NO OK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY SIX MONTHS. PLEASE SAY I ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. HERE WE GO. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL DONE, MISS SHARP. THAT

[VI. Staff Report]

WAS A MARATHON. ITEM NUMBER SIX STAFF REPORT. WHAT DO WE HAVE TODAY? WILL ATKINSON FOR THE RECORD, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. UH, JUST A FEW ITEMS ON THIS STAFF REPORT. UM, AS WE'VE STATED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES WE HAVE THE NATIONAL PLANNING CONFERENCE FROM APRIL THE 13TH THROUGH THE 16TH THAT'S IN PERSON. AND A STAFF WILL BE FLYING OUT ON THE 12TH AND RETURNING ON THE 17TH. SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN GOING AND YOU HAVEN'T TALKED WITH US YET, OR YOU'RE BEGINNING TO TALK WITH US, PLEASE CONTINUE TO COORDINATE ACCORDINGLY. UH, WE ARE PRESENTING A WE HAVE A IN A PUBLIC NOTICE AS OF WEDNESDAY TOMORROW IN THE NEWSPAPER LANDSCAPE CODE UPDATE. UH, THAT'LL BE COMING BEFORE Y'ALL ON MARCH, THE 12TH AND THEN CITY COUNCIL ON THE 19TH THAT WAS BASED ON A DISCUSSION. THAT COUNCIL WANTED US SOME FURTHER AMENDMENTS BASED ON MORE ROBUST ZEROS SKIING REQUIREMENTS, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, THE FOUR GL. UM REGARDING THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, ADOPTION? UH, WE DID HAVE THIS, UH, SCHEDULED TO BE IN THE NEWSPAPER TOMORROW AS WELL. UH, BUT AFTER FURTHER INTERNAL STAFF CO ORDINATION, WE'RE ACTUALLY DELAYING BRINGING THAT FORWARD. UH, WE HAVE SUCH SOME ADDITIONAL MINOR EDITS WE WANNA MAKE AND SOME DISCUSSION BEFORE WE BRING IT FORWARD AS WELL. AND THEN, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT CODE REWRITE. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN RFQ FOR LATE SPRING 2024. WHICH MEANS WE WILL POST IT FOR, UH, PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR A QUALIFICATIONS TO HELP US REDO OUR ENTIRE CODE. SO THAT'S GONNA BE PRETTY EXCITING. THAT'S GONNA BE A BIT THAT'S GONNA BE A RELATIVELY LONG PROCESS THAT CAN BE COMING FORWARD TO BOTH Y'ALL AND THE CITY COUNCIL. UM BUT IT WILL BE A GOOD ONE. SO IN MUCH NEEDED AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? YES. ON THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. PUSHBACK CAN YOU GIVE US ANY, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON TO PUSH IT BACK.

ONE MOMENT. HERE WE GO, UH, FOR THE RECORD, JERRY HENDRIX, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. WE LOOKED AT SOME RENDERINGS OVER THE WEEKEND AT OUR COUNCIL VISIONING WORKSHOP, AND WE LIKE SOME TIME TO JUST PROCESS THOSE SO THAT WE CAN BRING BACK. UH, BETTER RECOMMENDATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HIM. OK WELL, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. THANK YOU. UH, I'M NUMBER SEVEN

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ADJOURNMENT. AS WE HAVE COMPLETED ALL ON THE MEETING'S AGENDA, THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED. SO WE ARE ADJOURNED

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.