Apr 16, 2024 TIRZ #2 Board

THANK YOU ALL

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I'M GONNA CALL

[I. Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]

NUMBER TWO BOARD.

UH, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLE INGLESBY.

HERE.

MITCHELL.

HERE.

RIZZO.

HE HERE.

ZUNIGA HARRIS? HERE.

PARSLEY HERE.

TOBIAS.

PRESENT.

COHEN HERE.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT ORDER OF

[II. Approval of Minutes]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

IF, UH, YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

UH, THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

NEXT IS, UH, NUMBER THREE, CITIZEN COMMENT.

PERIOD.

UH, ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK OR WOULD WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY.

OKAY.

IF NOT, WE'LL GO ON TO NUMBER

[IV.2. Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on the 30% design progress on the roundabouts on Kohlers Crossing at Cromwell, Benner, and Sanders.]

REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.

UH, TO RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON THE 30% DESIGN PROGRESS ON THE ROUNDABOUTS.

UM, KOHLER'S CROSSING AT CROMWELL, BENNER, AND SANDERS.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS AND CITY ENGINEERING.

BEFORE WE STARTED WITH THE PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LET YOU KNOW THIS IS STRICTLY AN UPDATE.

THE ACTUAL FILING REPORT PROJECT IS, UH, TODAY'S, TODAY'S JUST AN UPDATE.

AND, UH, WE'LL BE BRINGING YOU BACK TO FINALLY THE NEXT MEETING.

ALSO, IT'S GONNA BE A TAG TEAM.

OOPS.

IT'S GONNA BE A TAG TEAM BETWEEN, UH, ME AND PERVEZ.

HE'LL PICK UP AT SLIDE, UH, NUMBER NINE.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

IT'S JUST A SUMMARY OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

SO I WON'T, UH, GO THROUGH THE DETAILS ON THIS WITH YOU.

BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT IS OUR DESIGN ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THEY'RE COMPLETING THE 30% SCHEMATIC FOR US.

LET'S START WITH STANDARDS.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW.

THIS IS A NEW ACRONYM THAT I JUST LEARNED.

SO I'LL GUESS I'LL, UH, TELL YOU WHAT THE TWO BY ONE ROUNDABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

FIRST QUESTION I ASKED WAS, WHAT THE HECK IS A TWO BY ONE ROUNDABOUT? THAT JUST SIMPLY MEANS TWO LANES IN ONE DIRECTION AND THEN ONE LANE IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.

SO YOU'LL SEE THIS MORE OFTEN AS WE GO THROUGH THESE PROJECTS.

UH, THIS, UH, JUST TO MAKE A POINT THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DID KNOW THAT IT DOES ACCOMMODATE TRA TRAILER TRAFFIC.

SO, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY, PRELIMINARILY, WE THINK THERE'S ABOUT 0.36 ACRES WE'RE GOING TO NEED.

THERE'S NO HOMES OR EXISTING LANDSCAPE THAT WILL BE IMPACTED.

UH, DETENTION WILL BE REQUIRED AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO, BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER.

PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION COST IS $4.6 MILLION.

THIS IS ONLY THE CONSTRUCTION COST.

THIS IS BENNER.

UH, IT'S ANOTHER TWO BY ONE ROUNDABOUT.

UH, THIS WILL ACCOMMODATE TRAILER TRAFFIC ALSO.

UH, WE'VE SHIFTED TO THE NORTH TO AVOID THE, UH, A RA BUILDING THERE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER.

UH, WE DID ESTIMATE AT LEAST, UH, $3 MILLION FOR UPGRADING THAT TUNNEL TO WHERE IT WOULD MEET A DA REQUIREMENTS.

UH, WE NEED ABOUT 0.65 ACRES FOR THIS PARTICULAR TRACT.

THE DETENTION WILL BE REQUIRED ON THIS PROJECT, ON THIS PART OF THAT PROJECT ALSO.

AND THE ESTIMATED COST FOR CONSTRUCTION IS 3.2 MILLION CROMWELL, ANOTHER TWO BY ONE, UH, ROUNDABOUT.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, ACQUISITION REQUIRED OF A 0.26 ACRES.

UH, STORM DRAIN WILL BE REPLACED FOR IMPACT BY THE ROUNDABOUT.

THERE IS NO DETENTION REQUIRED BECAUSE WE'VE REDUCED THE IMP COVER ON THIS ONE.

THE PRELIMINARY CONSTRUCTION COST IS 3.2 MILLION.

IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE, UH, ROUNDABOUTS IN THIS LOCATION.

IN BETWEEN THERE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.

WE WANTED TO, UH, MILL AND OVERLAY THE STREET, DO SOME NEW PAVING ON IT.

WE WANTED TO ADD ELIMINATION THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROJECT ALL THE WAY FROM 27 70 TO 1626.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR SIDEWALKS ARE A DA COMPLIANT.

SO THERE'S SOME SIDEWALKS THAT WE WANT TO ADD IN THERE.

UH, UTILITIES, WE, WE HAVE SOME UTILITIES THAT WE MAY WANNA REPLACE OR UPGRADE.

SO THAT'S ABOUT A $2.8 MILLION.

TOTAL COST FOR THAT FROM EVERYTHING FROM 27 70 TO 1626 IS $6.6 MILLION.

AND THIS IS WHAT'S DRIVING THE COST OF THE PROJECT UP, OR AT LEAST PART OF IT.

THIS IS AN OVERALL COST SUMMARY.

UM, WE ADDED, UM, DESIGN RIGHT OF WAY NON-CITY UTILITY RELOCATIONS, CONSTRUCTION ILLUMINATION, THE BEN TUNNEL.

UH, I ANTICIPATE THAT COST IS GONNA GO UP ON THE BETTER TUNNEL.

WE WERE TRYING TO SEE IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXTEND THE TUNNEL.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADD THE RETAINING WALLS IN IN ORDER TO MEET OUR EDA REQUIREMENTS ON THAT.

UH, CITY UTILITIES AND DESIGN, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 1.6 MILLION.

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AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE NEXT STEP IS TO BRING YOU BACK THE FINALIZED 30% SCHEMATIC.

AND THEN WE WILL WAIT FOR THE BOARD TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON, ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE A CONTRACT READY, UH, FOR YOU FROM, UH, AMERICAN, UH, UH, STRUCTURE POINTS AND JUST IN CASE WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ESTIMATED THIS PROJECT ORIGINALLY AT 15 MILLION, BUT THAT WAS CONSTRUCTION ONLY FOR THE, UH, AND DESIGN FOR THE ROUNDABOUTS THEMSELVES.

AND I'LL LET PERVE TAKE IT OVER HERE.

MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD, I'M PERS MOHE CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

SO LET'S TALK MONEY FOR TOUR BOARD.

NUMBER TWO, THE CAPITAL PROJECT LIST IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SHOW YOU HERE ON THIS SLIDE.

THE CURRENT CIP PLAN FOR TOUR NUMBER TWO HAS EIGHT PROJECTS LISTED SO FAR.

SO WE HAVE THE THREE RETAIL ROADS, WHICH IS CONSISTS OF AVENUE A, CROMWELL STREET, HEROES PARK DRIVE, AND IT ALSO INCLUDES CU CULTURAL TRAIL FOR A TOTAL PROJECT ESTIMATE OF $8.1 MILLION.

WE HAVE ROUNDABOUT AT CROMWELL AND KOHLERS.

AND BASED ON THE SLIDES THAT LEON JUST SHOWED YOU, THE TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF THAT PROJECT IS $4.4 MILLION.

NUMBER THREE, ROUNDABOUT AT BENNER AND KOHLERS, $4.5 MILLION.

I'M ROUNDING THESE UP ROUNDABOUT AT SANDERS.

AND KOHLERS IS $6.4 MILLION PARKING LOT THAT IS UNDER DESIGN.

A MILLION DOLLARS PARKING GARAGE, $10 MILLION ESTIMATED COST.

THE TUNNEL IMPROVEMENTS AT BENNER.

$3 MILLION ESTIMATED.

BUT AS OF YESTERDAY, UH, I WAS INFORMED THAT THAT MIGHT GO AS HIGH AS $5 MILLION.

NUMBER EIGHT, ILLUMINATION AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ON KOHLERS FROM FM 27 70 TO 1626 IS ABOUT $6 MILLION.

SO THE TOTAL ESTIMATED PLAN PROJECT COSTS FORTS NUMBER TWO IS ABOUT $43.4 MILLION.

SO HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR ALL THIS? TO GET TO THAT POINT, WE HAVE TO DO A FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST.

HOW MUCH MONEY IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE? WHAT ARE WE PLANNING IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURES? HOW MUCH ARE WE FINANCING? WHAT WILL BE THE DEBT SERVICE COST AND OTHER, UH, SUPPORT COSTS SUCH AS MAINTENANCE COSTS.

SO WE HAVE PRELIMINARY FIVE YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST COMPLETED.

BUT BEFORE I GET TO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER A FEW ITEMS THAT IMPACT THE FORECAST.

THESE ARE PRELIMINARY ASSUMPTIONS.

THEY'RE BASED ON PRELIMINARY ASSUMPTIONS.

AT THIS POINT, REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE DATA ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGES BECAUSE AS DESIGN IS REFINED, COSTS WILL BE REFINED FOR THESE PROJECTS.

THE CERTIFIED TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUATIONS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE TO US UNTIL LATE JULY.

WE HAVE PRELIMINARY INFORMATION FROM HAYES CAD, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE CERTIFIED TAX ROLL AT THIS POINT.

THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS WILL BE FURTHER REFINED BASED ON DESIGN RIGHT OF WAY, ACQUISITIONS, EASEMENT ACQUISITIONS, FIELD CONDITIONS THAT THE ENGINEERING FIRMS WILL GO THROUGH.

THE ESTIMATED INTEREST COSTS FOR FUTURE BONDS ARE SUBJECT TO MARKET CONDITIONS AND ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.

SO THOSE ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGES.

SO THIS SLIDE HAS, IS A PRETTY BUSY SLIDE, BUT THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR PRELIMINARY FINANCIAL FORECAST.

SO FROM WORKING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, WE HAVE SOURCES OF FUNDS ON THE FAR LEFT SIDE.

SO FROM LINES ONE THROUGH FIVE, WE HAVE SOURCES OF FUNDS.

LINES SEVEN THROUGH 16 ARE USES OF FUNDS.

THEN WORKING, RIGHT, WE HAVE THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR CHARGE NUMBER TWO.

WE HAVE CURRENT YEAR ESTIMATE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO LAND AT SEPTEMBER 30 THEN YEARS ONE THROUGH FIVE ARE

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SO YEAR NUMBER ONE WILL BE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

OUR GOAL IN THE FINANCIAL FOR FORECAST IS TO KEEP THE FUND SOLVENT, BY WHICH, I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST LINE OF THIS FORECAST LINE 23, OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THAT POSITIVE OR AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO POSITIVE.

WE DO NOT WANT TO LET THAT GO NEGATIVE.

SO BASICALLY FOR EACH YEAR, YOU WANT YOUR SOURCES OF FUNDS, WHICH ARE BASICALLY PROPERTY TAX REVENUE INCREMENT TAX REVENUES FROM THE CITY'S 50% AND COUNTY'S 50% IS THE SOURCES OF FUNDS.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME INTEREST INCOME, AND YOU'LL SEE SOME BOND PROCEEDS AS WE ARE PLANNING TO ISSUE BONDS IN FUTURE YEARS.

FOR PROJECTS.

ON THE SOURCES OF FUND SIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS.

THIS IS TO MAINTAIN HEROES, MEMORIAL PARK, LAVERDE PARK, UH, THE PACK, UH, UH, CENTER AREA PARKING LOT, PARKING LOT MAINTENANCE.

AND YOU WILL ALSO SEE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS PLAN, CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR ROUNDABOUTS FOR THE THREE RETAIL ROADS, THE PARKING LOT.

AND IN FUTURE YEARS, IN YEARS NUMBER THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE, YOU'LL SEE PLANNED EXPENDITURES OR FORECASTED EXPENDITURES FOR THE PARKING GARAGE THAT WE HAVE PLANNED.

SO THIS IS THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST.

AND EVERY SINGLE YEAR IN THE FUTURE, THE FUND STAYS SOLVENT.

WE HAVE A POSITIVE BALANCE.

SO USING THE SAME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT LIST THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, WHAT IS OUR FUNDING CAPACITY BASED ON THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST, HOW MUCH CAN WE AFFORD? OF THE LIST OF PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, YOU WILL SEE A RED LINE AFTER PARKING GARAGE.

SO UP TO THAT $34.4 MILLION, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF THE THREE RETAIL ROADS WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED, THE DEBT FOR THAT MONIES IN THE BANK IS AVAILABLE, IS FULLY FUNDED.

PROJECT NUMBER TWO, CROMWELL AND KOHLERS, $4.4 MILLION WILL HAVE TO ISSUE DEBT IN THE FUTURE ROUNDABOUT AT BENNER AND KOHLERS, ANOTHER 4.5 MILLION.

WE'RE PLANNING TO ISSUE DEBT FOR THAT ROUNDABOUT AT SANDERS AND KOHLERS, $6.4 MILLION.

WE'RE PLANNING TO ISSUE DEBT.

AND THESE DEBT WILL BE REPAID WITH SOURCES OF FUNDS FROM TS NUMBER TWO, THEY WILL NOT BE A BURDEN ON THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND IN ANY MANNER.

AND THEN THE PARKING LOT, NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS ESTIMATED AT $1 MILLION IS CASH FUNDED, IS FULLY CASH FUNDED FROM T UH, SOURCES OF FUNDS.

AND THEN LASTLY, PARKING GARAGE IS ESTIMATED AT $10 MILLION.

UM, THE ESTIMATED COST IS DERIVED AT USING A $30,000 PER SPACE COST ESTIMATE FOR THIS GARAGE IN 2020 $6.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER $10 MILLION.

THAT'S GONNA BE A FUTURE BOND ISSUE AS WELL.

SO BASED ON THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST, BASED ON THE SOURCES OF FUNDS THAT'S AVAILABLE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO FUND UP TO NUMBER SIX.

THEN THE TUNNEL AT BENNER, WHETHER IT'S 3 MILLION OR 5 MILLION, WHATEVER WE END UP WITH IN THE FINAL COST ESTIMATE WOULD HAVE TO BE FUNDED IN A FUTURE YEAR, UH, BEYOND THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

SIMILARLY, THE LAST PROJECT ON THIS LIST, ILLUMINATION AND OTHER, UH, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SEGMENT FROM ONCO FROM FM 27 70 TO 1627, I MEAN 1626, WHICH IS ESTIMATED AS $6 MILLION WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE FUNDED WITH FUTURE BONDS.

BUT BEYOND THE FIVE YEAR, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA STOP HERE AND, AND LET Y'ALL ASK US QUESTIONS IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY.

OKAY.

HOW ARE WE SETTING THE PRIORITY FOR THESE PROJECTS? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE, I MEAN WE HAVE ILLUMINATION AS NUMBER EIGHT IN UNFUNDED, BUT

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ILLUMINATION IS, I BELIEVE IT'S KEY FOR, AT LEAST FOR ME, I HAVE GOTTEN, I THINK I BROUGHT ILLUMINATION TO COLORS CLOSING A LONG TIME AGO.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE ARE GONNA SET PRIORITY FOR THESE PROJECTS.

'CAUSE TO ME THAT SHOULD BE UNDER ONE OF THE FUNDED PROJECTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN REVISE WHAT THE FOR, AND I KNOW THAT IDEALLY WE WANT TO HAVE THE FLOW WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT IS THERE ANY ROUNDABOUT THAT WE CAN MOVE INTO THE UNFUNDED PROJECTS TO MOVE ELIMINATION TO THE TOP? I I THINK WE COULD, UM, DELAY THE ROUNDABOUT AT BENNER, UM, AND DO THE ILLUMINATION.

UM, SO WE WOULD DO THE WORK ALL ALONG KOHLERS, WE WOULD DO THE ROUNDABOUT AT AT CROMWELL AND SANDERS, AND YOU COULD DELAY BENNER AND IT WOULD STILL WORK IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD CHOSE TO DO.

I'M THINKING ABOUT THE KIDS THAT WALK TO SCHOOL AT FIVE 6:00 AM TO GO TO EITHER BARTON OR HAYES.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR ME.

WELL, I, I WOULD JUST SAY, I MEAN THAT'S, UH, SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE FROM THE BOARD.

IF, UM, YOU DID WANT TO SWAP ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS OUT, WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.

WE COULD ALSO NOT MAKE THAT DECISION JUST YET AS WE WERE FINISHING UP THE DESIGN FOR THE ROUNDABOUTS.

AS WE COME BACK WITH SOME BETTER, UH, MORE REFINED INFORMATION, THEN WE CAN HAVE A BETTER COST ESTIMATE FOR YOU.

AND THEN YOU COULD DECIDE AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU WANTED TO PROCEED.

UM, THE PARKING GARAGE IS ANOTHER ELEMENT THERE.

THIS TOO, IF IT'S, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT, THE SCHEDULE, I THINK IT WAS YEAR THREE.

UM, IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE THAT OUT A LITTLE FURTHER, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.

AND, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT LATER THIS SUMMER WE'LL HAVE BETTER FINANCIAL INFORMATION TOO FOR THE APPRAISED VALUES.

SO THAT MIGHT HAVE A, HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.

BUT IF THERE'S FEEDBACK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ON THE PRIORITIES, UM, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO, TO PROVIDE THAT TO US IF YOU HAVE IT.

YEAH, I, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ILLUMINATION ISSUE.

THAT AREA IS VERY, VERY BRIGHT AND I ASK FOR AN ACCIDENT, UM, EVALUATION OF THE, OF COLORS CROSSING FROM 1626 TO 7 27 70, UH, SOME MONTHS AGO.

AND FOUND THAT, UM, AT NIGHT THERE ARE BASICALLY NO ACCIDENTS AT ALL IN A NINE MONTH PERIOD IN THAT AREA.

UM, THE ONLY ACCIDENTS WERE AT 26 OR 1626.

UM, IT'S VERY, VERY BRIGHTLY LIT, NOT FOR THE KIDS.

UM, BUT THE WHOLE AREA IS VERY BRIGHTLY LIT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, A LIGHT SURVEY DONE OF WHAT TYPES OF LIGHTING WE NEED THERE.

WE MAY NEED, UH, SIDEWALK LIGHTING, UM, BUT WE MIGHT NOT NEED ANYTHING OTHER THAN SIDEWALK LIGHTING.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ILLUMINATION DESIGN AND AN EXAMPLE OF THE FIXTURES TO BE USED FOR THAT.

UM, AND UM, AS FAR AS WHERE IT GOES IN PRIORITIES, I'M, I DON'T KNOW THAT, YES.

COUNSEL, UH, I HAD A QUESTION.

UM, PEREZ, ARE THESE ROUNDABOUTS, I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALREADY COVERED LAST YEAR, UM, IN THE, OUT OF THE TURS, ARE THESE THE SAME ROUNDABOUTS? THESE ARE THE SAME, SAME ROUNDABOUTS.

THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET, BUT BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS MM-HMM.

, WE ANTICIPATE THERE'LL BE INCURRING EXPENDITURES IN NEXT YEAR.

SO ARE THEY STILL ON THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT THAT WE ALLOCATED $8 MILLION INTO EACH ROUNDABOUT, I BELIEVE? OR HAS THAT COST GONE UP PER ROUNDABOUT? THE NUMBERS HAVE SHIFTED AROUND, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT ON THIS SCREEN, THE ROUNDABOUT AT CROMWELL IS 4.4 MILLION.

THE ROUNDABOUT AT BENNER IS 4.5 MILLION, AND THE ROUNDABOUT AT SANDERS IS 6.4.

SO NONE OF THE OTHER BUDGETED MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT YET FOR ROUNDABOUTS.

A LITTLE BIT ON ENGINEERING.

OKAY.

IF, IF I MIGHT ADD, UM, I KNOW WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ENGINEERING DESIGN OF THE ROUNDABOUTS AND THE CONCERNS OF SCHOOL BUSES AND OTHER VEHICLES.

AND SO I THINK IT'S HOPEFULLY GETTING WORKED OUT.

SAME THING HERE.

'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE PAC CENTER AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN FROM THE NORTH GOING TO HAYES.

SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TWO ROUNDABOUTS THERE.

SO

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AND I WANNA ALSO COUNTER ON, UM, COUNCILMAN'S, PARSLEYS, UM, IDEAS ABOUT THE ILLUMINATION.

'CAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE LAVERDE PARKED THERE.

AND SO IN YEARS TO COME, THAT'S GONNA BE UP AND RUNNING AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF, UH, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THAT'LL BE GOING THROUGH THERE, ESPECIALLY IN EVENING, NOT SO MUCH THE STUDENTS THAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO.

SO IT COULD BE JUST A MATTER OF LOOKING AT WHAT OUR PRIORITY WOULD BE.

THE ONLY CONCERN THAT I HAD, AGAIN, WAS PUTTING THOSE ROUNDABOUTS THERE.

'CAUSE AGAIN, WHEN YOU HAVE EVENTS AT THE PAC CENTER, IT GETS VERY CLOGGED UP ONCE IT GETS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BARTON JUNIOR HIGH.

SO I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON TRAFFIC FLOW, BUT IF WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC OR A LARGE AMOUNT OF EVENTS IN THAT AREA, HOW BACKED UP IT WOULD ACTUALLY GET, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE HITTING A STOPLIGHT AT CO AT 1626 COLORS AND OVER THERE.

BUT I'M SURE IT'LL FIGURE ITS ITS WAY OUT.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN PARSLEY.

UH, HAVING SOME FORM OF ILLUMINATION LIGHTING THERE, UH, WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO UTILIZE THAT FOR WHEN THEY WALK TO THE PAC CENTER IN LABORDE, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.

OKAY.

COUNSEL, LEON, CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE TUNNEL AT BENNER? UM, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM, THE UM, TUNNEL IS, UH, ABOUT 12 FEET DEEP TO THE FLOW LINE OF THAT, UH, PARTICULAR CULVERT.

IN ORDER TO GET TO MEET A DA GRADES, THE, THE MAXIMUM YOU CAN GO IS 5%.

AND SO IF YOU DIVIDE 12 BY 5%, YOU'RE AROUND 2 2500, 250 FEET.

BUT, UH, SUSTAINED GRADE AT 5% IS KIND OF TOUGH ON FOLKS, ESPECIALLY LIKE ME.

IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH GRADE TO, TO HANDLE FOR THAT DISTANCE.

SO IF ANYTHING, WE WOULD RECOMMEND ABOUT A 3% SLOPE.

SO WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE OR 400 FEET OF, UH, RAMP THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED THERE.

AND THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE RETAINING WALLS.

ALL THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE RETAINING WALLS.

OF COURSE, THE UTILITIES ARE ANOTHER ISSUE.

WE'VE GOT UTILITIES IN THE WAY, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE MOVED, BUT THE BIG COST IS GONNA BE THE RETAINING WALLS.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, MAKE SURE WE HAVE TO HAVE, UH, 24 7 SECURITY OF SOME KIND.

LIGHTING HAS TO BE THERE.

WE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE DRAINAGE WORKS IN THOSE TUNNELS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO ADDRESS THAT.

BUT WHEN YOU BUILD THAT KIND OF RAMP THAT ALL THAT WATER'S GONNA BE HEADING INTO THAT TUNNEL.

SO WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD DRAINAGE SYSTEM THERE.

SO BE, BESIDES DRAINAGE, LIGHTING, SECURITY, UH, 24 7, UH, OBSERVATIONS OF THAT TUNNEL.

AND BY THE TIME YOU GET OUTTA THAT TUNNEL TO, TO THE EIGHT TO THE GRADES THAT YOU NEED TO GET TO PEOPLE TO, TO MEET A DA, IT'S GONNA TAKE THREE TO 400 FEET.

DOES THAT HELP? YEAH, A LITTLE BIT.

UM, I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF CROSSING THROUGH THERE AND WHY, WHY WOULDN'T MAKE THAT A PRIORITY AS WELL? I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN I TAG ON THAT POINT RIGHT THERE AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE IT BACK.

GO FOR IT.

IT'S JUST WITH THE, THE SPORTSPLEX BEING PLANNED, UH, WITH LAND USE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF 1626, TO HIS POINT, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENTS IS PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO TRAVERSE FROM ONE SIDE OF THE STREET TO THE OTHER.

AND RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, UM, I I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE IS, BUT IT ABSOLUTELY IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT GIVEN THE INVESTMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE MADE IN THE AREA.

UH, AND WE'RE ALREADY MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, DIG INTO THAT ONE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR US TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PRIORITIZE IT OVER THE OTHER THINGS THAT I'M STILL KIND OF PROCESSING IT ALL.

BUT, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'D SOMETHING I'D LIKE JUST TO COME BACK TO AT SOME POINT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, MAYOR PATAM, ARE YOU DONE? NO, I WAS JUST GONNA FINISH UP REAL QUICK.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UH, AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, AND I, I, THAT'S, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WORRIES ME ABOUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DANIELA TALKED ABOUT WAS THE, UH, THE FOOT TRAFFIC THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC.

SO I WORRY ABOUT AS WE'RE BRINGING IN THE PROJECT, MORE PROJECTS INTO THAT AREA, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE AND MORE FOOT TRAFFIC PASSING THROUGH THERE.

I THINK IF I WAS GONNA TAKE OUT A ROUNDABOUT, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SHIFT OVER TO THE TUNNEL.

IMPROVEMENTS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING I WOULD, UH, IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN A ROUNDABOUT AS WELL.

SO I THINK IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE, MORE ATTAINABLE.

BUT I, I JUST THINK THE TUNNEL IS PROBABLY A TOP PRIORITY.

BUT I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE LIGHTING, BUT I THINK AS WE GET MORE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHTING.

AND WE'VE GOT QUITE A BIT THERE.

I MEAN, UH, ARE WE TRYING TO SUBSTITUTE THE CROSSING A CROSSING AREA WITH THEIR TUNNEL? IS THAT WHAT THE INTENTION IS? YES, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF

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I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CROSSING SECTION.

LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COLORS AND 1626, LIKE TO GO TO LA THE CORRECT, THE NO, THE PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASS BENNER, YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE.

SO, OH, I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE TUNNEL THAT IS UNDERGROUND, LIKE, WHICH ALSO MAKES THE, LET'S WAIT ON BENNER CONCEPT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT THERE IS, BUT THOSE PROJECTS ARE TOGETHER.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING YOU COULD CONSIDER IS IF YOU GO BACK, OKAY, NOW I SEE IT BECAUSE, SORRY.

SO CAN YOU GO TO THE NINE IN A ROW OR 10 IN A ROW WITH THE RED LINE? THREE HAVE TWO? WELL, I THINK, I THINK BENNER IS THE HARDEST INTERSECTION.

SANDERS HAS, UH, A LOT OF TRAFFIC, BUT BENNER HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC AS WELL.

AND IT IS VERY DICEY COMING OUT OF THERE TRYING TO TURN THAT.

YES, IT IS.

SO MY SUGGESTION, LOOK, AND THERE'S NO ONE WHO WANTS TO PARKING, BUILD A PARKING GARAGE AND KYLE MORE THAN ME.

I'VE WANTED TO BUILD A PARKING GARAGE FOREVER.

BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT, THE VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT IS SLOW.

AND WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT.

SO IF YOU TOOK SIX AND DOWN AND SEVEN AND EIGHT AND MOVED IT UP, YOU WOULD, YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET BOTH THE TUNNEL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ILLUMINATION.

AND WHAT YOU WOULD GET FOR ALL OF THAT WOULD BE A COMPLETE STREET, FULLY DESIGNED SOMETHING.

WE CONTROL CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN, BUT WHAT YOU'D HAVE TO DO IF YOU MADE THAT CHOICE, IS RECOGNIZE THAT A PARKING GARAGE IS GONNA HAVE TO BE PART OF A DEAL THAT WE MAKE WITH A DEVELOPER OR A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE THAT PART OF IT OUT.

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

EVEN THOUGH I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE PARKING GARAGE OUT.

IF YOU, IF YOU DID AND PUT THE OTHER TWO UP, YOU'D HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THE COMPLETE, THE COMPLETE STREET, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD.

IF YOU DON'T DO BENNER, BENNER IS GONNA BE A DISASTER UNTIL YOU DO IT.

IT'S A DISASTER RIGHT.

NOW, QUICK QUESTION, UH, LEON IS, ARE WE PAYING FOR ANY OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS IN THIS AREA? WE HAVE SOME COSTS INCLUDED IN OUR, IN OUR ESTIMATE.

YES.

UH, IS ANYBODY WILLING TO DONATE ANY OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION? 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE WHAT THEY WOULD NEED THAT RIGHT OF WAY FOR, UM, SINCE IT WOULD BASICALLY BE AN IMPROVEMENT.

UM, WE HAVE NOT TALKED TO ANY OF THE, UH, OWNERS ALONG THAT SECTION AT ALL YET.

DO YOU THINK ANYONE, I MEAN ANY OWNERS WOULD BE WILLING TO I WISH, BUT WITHOUT ASKING, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

I I, IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE ASK.

YEAH, IT'S NOT A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY.

NO, IT'S NOT.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S ONLY GONNA IMPROVE THE PROPERTY VALUES FOR THEM, FOR US TO DO THIS.

SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US APPROACH THAT FIRST JUST TO SAVE ON SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.

WE CERTAINLY WILL.

IT'S GREAT DISCUSSION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THERE'S NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM.

JUST ONE, ONE OTHER THING, IF I MAY, WITH THE THREE PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS, UM, LIKE IF IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY REMOVING ONE FROM THE EQUATION, UM, OR MAYBE EVEN IF WE'RE NOT, LIKE THERE ARE VERY CLEAR WALKING PATHS FOR PEOPLE OR LIKE WHERE I THINK WE CAN BE VERY PREDICTIVE WITH WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE STARTING.

UM, 'CAUSE LIKE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP A LOT.

AND WITH THE, THE NUMBER OF KIDS THAT WALK TO SCHOOL, UH, POSSIBLY PRIOR TRYING TO DIRECT WALKING TRAFFIC TO ONE OF THE SPECIFIC ROUNDABOUTS WHERE WE ARE, ALL OF THEM ARE SAFE, BUT POTENTIALLY LIKE IT IS WHERE IF WE DO HAVE TO ELIMINATE ONE THAT WE DO, UH, WE GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE CON THE CONCERNS THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED, UM, THAT WE TRY TO BUILD THAT INTO DESIGN.

I DON'T KNOW, JUST A THOUGHT, BUT I'M HIGHLY UNQUALIFIED AND ROUNDABOUT DESIGN.

SO MAYOR PRO TIM.

YEAH, JUST, UH, I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO THE TUNNEL AND JUST THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET MORE PROGRAMMING UP AT LAVEDA PARK, I MEAN WE, WE'VE GOT CONCERT SERIES COMING UP.

UH, WE, AS WE GET THE, UH, TRAIL COMING FROM LAVEDA OVER HERE'S MEMORIAL, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE MORE PROGRAMMING THERE AS WELL.

MAYBE, UH, BIG PARADES AS WELL, LIKE VETERANS DAY PARADE OR SOMETHING IN THAT CATEGORY.

I JUST KEEP START THINKING ABOUT ALL THE FOOT TRAFFIC WE'RE GONNA HAVE THERE CROSSING THE STREET.

I GUESS THAT'S WHY THE TUNNEL IMPROVEMENT AND IS, IS SOMETHING THAT I'M AT BENNER.

I I THINK THAT WHOLE IMPROVEMENT AT BENNER IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO PRIORITIZE WHEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS.

UH, MAYBE TAKING ONE OF THE ROUNDABOUTS OUT.

BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE THAT WHOLE AREA IS GONNA DEVELOP.

AND, UH, UH, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE ON, ON THE, THE,

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YEAH, FOR THE RETAIL ROADS, WE, WE, AGAIN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT ITEM, BUT WE, WE EXPECT TO HAVE A NOTICE OF PROCEED ON THAT IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS, 30 TO 60 DAYS TO GET GOING ON THAT RIGHT AWAY.

UM, AND I, I THINK IF THE DIRECTION IS FOR US TO LOOK AT FINDING A WAY TO DO THE TUNNEL IMPROVEMENTS, THE LIGHTING AND THE ROUNDABOUTS, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.

UM, I THINK THE CONTRACT WE BRING BACK, UM, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT MAY 7TH FOR THAT CONTRACT.

AND WE'LL INCLUDE THOSE ELEMENTS IN THE CONTRACT TO DESIGN ALL THAT WORK AND WE'LL GET GOING ON IT.

YEAH.

AND THEN AS WE UPDATE THE FINANCIAL FORECAST, WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, IF THERE'S ANY RIGHT OF WAY THAT COMES IN LESS THAN PERHAPS WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT.

I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL HIGH.

THERE'S SPECIFIC NUMBERS, BUT THERE'S STILL HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATES OF WHERE WE ARE.

SO HOPEFULLY THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY AS WE GO.

YEAH, AND I, I THINK ABOUT THE, UH, PARKING OVER AT, UH, BARTON MIDDLE SCHOOL AS WELL AND ALL THOSE AREAS WE HAVE, IF WE DO A BIG PROGRAMMING EVENT OUT THERE, THEN PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WALKING FROM THOSE AREAS.

SO, UH, IT'S CLOSE BY.

IT'S WALKABLE.

SO, UH, JUST THINKING ABOUT FUTURE PROGRAMMING.

SURE.

WE, WE UNDERSTAND, WE, WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE COST, UH, WE, WE KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.

IT'S SIMPLY JUST MORE EXPENSIVE THAN I THINK ANY OF US THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE.

BUT WE WANTED TO TO GET THAT ON THE TABLE SO YOU KNEW ABOUT IT.

SO THE IDEA MAYOR PRO TIMM, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING OR JUST AN IDEA YEAH.

NOT SUGGESTING IS LIKE WE LOOK AT CROMWELL KOHLERS AS A ROUNDABOUT, THEN YOU WORK ON NUMBER SEVEN AS YOUR ILLUMINATION AND ALSO YOUR TUNNEL, AND THEN MAYBE SANDERS AND KOHLERS.

SO I THINK, IS IT SOMETHING TO WHERE THAT WAY WE COULD HAVE LIKE, SO I THINK NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER SEVEN HAVE TO GO TOGETHER 'CAUSE IT'S ALL IN THE SAME AREA OF THE BANNER AREA, BUT OPTION NUMBER ONE.

YEAH.

AND THEN OPTION NUMBER TWO WOULD BE ALL THREE.

AND THEN OPTION NUMBER THREE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEM WITH THE, THE TUNNEL.

JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.

YEAH.

AND, AND, AND ALSO TAKING IN CONSIDERATION WHAT, UH, THE MAYOR IS SAYING ABOUT BENNER.

UH, I DON'T, I DON'T LIVE OUT THERE, BUT I CAN IMAGINE HOW CRAZY IT, IT DOES AS FAR AS PULLING OUT WHERE SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO GO AROUND AND I TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO THE DENTIST .

SO IT'S JUST PROBABLY IDENTIFYING WHICH ONE WOULD BE THE KEY AND OBVIOUSLY ALL THREE, BUT WE ALSO WANNA BE COST AFFECTION AS WELL.

YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S TREACHEROUS FOR BOTH VEHICLES AND PEOPLE RIGHT NOW ON ALL THE INTERSECTIONS.

SO IT'S LIKE, I THINK LIKE, WELL THAT PARKING GARAGE IS SOMETHING WE WANT, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST A CONCEPT OR AN IDEA.

BUT YOU TAKE IT OUT AND PUT EVERYTHING ELSE IN THERE, THEN PEOPLE CAN WALK FROM PLUM CREEK TO THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT WITHOUT EVER HAVING TO EVEN TOUCH KOHLERS.

AND THE TRAFFIC WILL FLOW THROUGH THAT, THOSE INTERSECTIONS INTO AND OUT OF THOSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AS WELL AS BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICTS.

SO, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IF IF, IF IT COMES TO THE POINT TO WHERE WE WOULD'VE TO NEGOTIATE WITH WATER PARKING GARAGE WOULD BE SOME SEVERANCE ON, ON THEIR END, I'M SURE.

AND SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO, OF COURSE WE WANNA BE IN FULL CONTROL OF, OF ALL OF ITS, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE A GIVE AND TAKE SITUATION THERE.

DO WE WANNA PUT OURSELVES IN THAT SITUATION? CAN, CAN WE, UM, ALSO, UH, GET A RESPONSE TO COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS'S REQUEST FOR THAT LIGHTING STUDY? IS THAT, I KNOW THAT THIS CAME UP, I THINK COUNCILMEMBER PARSLEY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA LAST YEAR AND WE TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING ON KOHLERS.

WAS THERE EVER A STUDY DONE LAST YEAR? I THINK WE HAD SOME PROPOSALS, BUT, UH, WE DECIDED TO WAIT FOR THIS PROJECT SO THAT WE COULD DO THE ELIMINATIONS ALL THE WAY FROM 27 70 TO 1626.

IF, IF I HAD TO DESIGN THIS PROJECT BASED ON WHAT I KNOW TODAY, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY FIRST PRIORITIES TO, IS TO DO THE ELIMINATION.

AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS IF YOU TRY TO DO IT PIECEMEAL MM-HMM, , YOU'RE GONNA BE ADDING MORE POLES, WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ENDING UP WITH.

'CAUSE YOU DON'T, YOU LOSE POWER AS YOU GO UP AND DOWN ON THESE POLES AND TRY TO GO DOWN INTO THE GROUND.

SO I WOULD JUST DO THE WHOLE THING FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER AND GET THAT KNOCKED OUT SO THAT IF WE DO ONE ROUNDABOUT, TWO ROUNDABOUTS OR THREE ROUNDABOUTS, WE'RE DONE WITH THE ILLUMINATION THAT WE WANT.

UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.

AND, AND THAT'S FINE.

I'M ONLY BRINGING IT UP SO THAT IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WE'RE DOING IT IN THE MOST RESPONSIBLE WAY.

YES, SIR.

AND TO COUNTER ON THAT, MR. HE OR HEER IS, IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT I WAS TRYING TO DO WITH DAISY 'CAUSE HOW DARK IT IS OUT THERE, BUT THE BOND DIDN'T, UH, ACQUIRE ANY KIND OF ILLUMINATION.

SO GOING BACK AND RE DIGGING UP ALL THE SIDEWALKS JUST TO PUT IN THE POLES.

AND LEON AND I HAD THAT CONVERSATION MANY TIMES AND BRIAN'S DRIVEN OUT THERE BEFORE AND SEEING HOW DARK IT IS, IT'S LIKE, HOW, HOW CAN WE, YOU KNOW, JUST JUSTIFY ADDING IF IT MEANS A SOLAR LIGHT HERE AND THERE.

BUT AGAIN,

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YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO PUT THE LIGHT POLES IN THE CONDUITS AND EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH FIRST BEFORE, 'CAUSE THE ROUNDABOUTS GONNA BE JUST A, A SPECIFIC SECTION OF THE PROJECT, BUT THE ILLUMINATION IS A GOOD MILE OR TWO MILE STRETCH.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER

[V.3. Consider approval of a construction contract with Harris Road Company in an amount of $6,413,378.69 with an added contingency amount of $320,668.93 for a total amount of $6,734,047.62 for the construction of the retail road facilities and associated improvements in the Brick and Mortar District.]

CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION.

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH HARRIS ROAD COMPANY IN AN AMOUNT OF 6000413378.69 WITH AN ADDED CONTINGENCY AMOUNT OF 320,000 668 93 FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $6,734,047 62 CENTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE RETAIL ROAD FACILITIES AND ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT.

UM, GOOD.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

HI, UH, ROSIE.

TRUE.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.

UH, AND THAT'S A MOUTHFUL OF AN AGENDA POSTING .

UM, SO WE HAD ANTICIPATED HAVING MO MARK HERE TO HELP PRESENT THIS PIECE, UM, BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO JOIN US TONIGHT, UH, DUE TO SOME ILLNESS.

AND SO I'M GONNA QUICKLY GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECT INTRODUCTION AND HISTORY ABOUT, UH, THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT AND, AND THESE PROJECT OR THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY.

SO THE RETAIL STREET PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT, THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF 1626 KOHLERS AND PLUM CREEK.

THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF THREE STREETS AND A TRAIL AS SHOWN IN THE BLUE DASH LINES IN THE RED DASH LINE.

IT IS A KEY PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CONNECTS VERDE AND HEROES MEMORIAL PARKS TO ONE ANOTHER AND TO 1626.

AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THE CROMWELL PIECE THAT WAS BUILT, UH, WITH THE HAYES CONSOLIDATED ISD PACK.

THE PROJECT IS PART OF THE RETAIL ROADS AGREEMENT WHERE THE IN, WHERE, UH, IN PART THE CITY RECEIVES THE, UH, THE LAND HIGHLIGHTED IN THE SCREEN FOR A FUTURE SPORTSPLEX.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN GREEN, UH, CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL, A MIXED USE OFFICE SITE, AND A RESTAURANT.

THE IDEA FOR A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED STREET AND STREET SCAPE CONNECTION DATES BACK TO 2020 WAS STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND A MASTER PLAN REPORT PRESENTED TO THE TOURS BOARD IN JULY OF 2020, IDENTIFYING THE CULTURAL TRAIL AND SIGNIFICANT STREETSCAPE ENHANCE STREET SCAPE ENHANCEMENTS.

IN ADDITION, IN 2021 COUNCIL AND SOME MEMBERS OF THET BOARD AND CITY LEADERSHIP VISITED THE INDIANAPOLIS CULTURAL TRAIL AND THE CARMEL MONON TRAIL.

UH, OTHER PRECEDENTS THROUGHOUT THE NATION WERE ALSO ANALYZED, SUCH AS FILLMORE PLAZA AND LARIMER LARIMER SQUARE IN DENVER.

THE 2020 MASTER PLAN, UH, REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED AND SHARED TO THE TOR TO THE TURS BOARD INCLUDED SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS SUCH AS STREET SCAPE DESIGN, LIGHTING, PLANTING FURNITURE, HARDSCAPE ART, SIGNAGE, AND PROGRAMMING OPTIONS FOR THE STREETSCAPE.

THE WGI CONSULTANT TEAM USED THE MASTER PLAN AS INSPIRATION FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTATION WORK FOR THE CONTRACT THAT WE ARE REVIEWING TONIGHT.

HERE ARE A FEW PHOTOS FROM THE INDIANAPOLIS CULTURAL TRAIL AND THE MONAN TRAIL, MIDTOWN SQUARE PROJECTS IN INDIANA.

NOTICE THE SPECIAL LIGHTING, THE BRICK PAVERS, PLANTING AND PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES AS WELL AS ARTWORK PLACEMENT.

SIMILARLY, HERE ARE PIC UH, SOME PHOTOS OF FILLMORE PLAZA AND LARIMER LARIMER SQUARE.

UH, NOTICE THE UNIQUE LIGHTING ATTRIBUTES, SEASONAL EFFORTS, THE WAY THAT THE STREET CAN BE SHUT DOWN FOR EVENTS AND HOW THE OVERHEAD TWINKLE LIGHTS CREATE A SPECIAL ATMOSPHERE.

I DID NOT WRITE THIS .

UM, ALL FOUR OF THESE PROJECTS WERE ALSO USED AS INSPIRATION BY THE WGI CONSULTING TEAM.

UH, THIS RENDERING HERE CAME FROM THE 2020 MASTER PLAN THAT WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER.

NOTICE THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE CULTURAL TRAIL TO LA EXCUSE ME, TO LA VERDE PARK.

IT IS INTENTIONAL THAT IT CONNECTS LA VERDE PARK AND HEROES MEMORIAL PARK.

THE ADJACENT, ADJACENT STREETSCAPE AND STREET HAVE BEEN DESIGNED BY THE WGI TEAM AS A PLAZA TYPE BRICK STREET SCAPE THAT CAN BE SHUT DOWN FOR EVENTS LIKE A MARKET AS SHOWN IN THE RENDERING WHILE MEETING A DA COMPLIANCE LOOKING NORTH FROM THE EXISTING ROUNDABOUT BY THE PACK, YOU CAN SEE THE PACK ON THE LEFT HEROES MEMORIAL PARK IN THE LOWER RIGHT, THE PROPO, THE PROPOSED CROMWELL STREET EXTENSION WITH THE CULTURAL TRAIL, THE PROPOSED HEROES PARK DRIVE, AND AN OVERALL WELCOMING STREET SCAPE INTO THE DISTRICT.

NOTICE HOW CROMWELL STREET ULTIMATELY TERMINATES INTO THE FUTURE.

SPORTSPLEX, ALLOWING CROMWELL TO BE A KEY NORTH SOUTH ROAD THAT LINKS AMENITIES TOGETHER IN THE DISTRICT.

THE INTERSECTION OF AVENUE A AND CROMWELL STREET IN THE MAIN AND MAIN.

AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, CROMWELL IS THE KEY NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR AND AVENUE A

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CONNECTING 1626 TO LA VERDE PARK.

AT THIS INTERSECTION IS ALSO WHERE THE CULTURAL TRAIL TURNS TO CONNECT THE TWO PARK TOGETHER.

IT IS ENVISIONED THAT A FUTURE TRAIL WORK, UH, UH, FUTURE THAT IT IN BLAH BLAH.

IT IS ENVISIONED THAT FUTURE TRAIL WORK WILL HEAD NORTHBOUND TO ALSO CONNECT TO THE FUTURE SPORTSPLEX.

BECAUSE OF THE SPECIALNESS OF THIS INTERSECTION, THE INTERSECTION IS RAISED TO BE FLUSHED WITH SIDEWALK CONDITIONS AND MADE OF BRICK TO LEVEL AUTOMOBILE DRIVERS, OR TO LET AUTOMOBILE DRIVERS KNOW THAT THEY ARE ENTERING A SPACE WHERE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IS IMPORTANT.

AS THE PROPOSED STREET STREET, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT TAKES SHAPE, IT WILL INCLUDE A KEY CONNECTION TO LA VERDE PARK AND SET THE STAGE FOR A STRONG, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED URBAN AND WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT.

OVERHEAD, TWINKLE, LIGHTS, GRACIOUS SIDEWALKS, SHADE TREES AND LANDSCAPING ALL COMPLEMENT AND ADD TO THIS SIGNATURE EXPERIENCE.

UH, NOTICE HOW THE VIEW CORRIDOR OF THE TRAIL IN THIS SEGMENT TERMINATES ON THE LA VERDE PAVILION.

THE PROPOSED RETAIL ROADS PROJECT WILL UNLOCK NEW DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE IT DELIVERS UTILITIES AND ACCESS TO PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THE 1.75 ACRE MIXED USE OFFICE SITE THAT THE CITY WILL RECEIVE DIRECTLY SOUTH OF LA VERDE PARK.

IT ALLOWS FOR THE SPROUTS DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE BETTER ACCESS.

IT PROVIDES THE CITY ACCESS TO DEVELOP THE FUTURE HEROES MEMORIAL PARK RESTAURANT.

AND IT CREATES ANOTHER SEGMENT OF OUR KEY PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE AND VIBE NETWORK THROUGH THE KYLE CULTURAL TRAIL.

IT OPENS UP OTHER MIXED USE BLOCKS AS SHOWN ON THE EAST SIDE IN BLUE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WHILE URBAN RESIDENTS CONTINUES, UH, WHILE URBAN RESIDENTIAL CONTINUES TO ADVANCE ON THE WEST SIDE, SHOWN IN BROWN JUST AS THE MASTER PLAN AND VISIONS.

THANK YOU MO MARK FOR YOUR KIND WORDS AND BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT.

UH, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS FOR THE AWARD AND THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR, UH, THESE STREET, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.

AS PURVES TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, WE HAVE A, A LITTLE MORE THAN 8 MILLION, UH, AS PART OF THE BUDGET FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THE WGI CONTRACT WAS ASSIGNED OVER TO THE CITY.

WE DID A BID PROCESS LATE LAST YEAR.

WE ACTUALLY GOT NO BIDS AS PART OF THAT PROCESS.

SO WE REPACKAGED THE DOCUMENTS AND LET, UH, A NEW CONSTRUCTION BID IN FEBRUARY.

IT OPENED ON MARCH 21ST AND WE WERE HAPPY TO HAVE FOUR BIDS RECEIVED FOR THAT.

OUR LOW BID HERE IS HARRIS ROAD COMPANY, UH, BUT WE DID RECEIVE BIDS FROM EASY BILL CAPITAL EXCAVATION IN AARON CONCRETE CONTRACTORS.

UH, WE PACKAGE THE WORK AS A BASE BID AND THEN A SERIES OF NINE DIFFERENT ALTERNATES THAT WE ASK FOR PRICING ON.

AS, AS SEEN HERE ON THE SCREEN.

UH, THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY, WE CAN GO WITH JUST THE BASE BID WITH A CONTINGENCY.

WE CAN DO THE BASE BID PLUS SOME NUMBER OF ALTERNATES, UH, FOR A TOTAL, UH, AMOUNT TO INCLUDE SOME OF THAT ALTERNATELY BID WORK.

UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING THAT WE AWARD EIGHT OF THE NINE ALTERNATES.

UM, AND THE LAST OPTION WOULD BE TO PERHAPS, UH, NOT APPROVE THE CONTRACT FOR RETAIL ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND, AND GO A DIFFERENT PATH.

UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THESE BIDS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT REALLY ALL OF THE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED WERE OVER BUDGET.

THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT, HOWEVER, THAT WE THINK WE CAN DEFER TO A FUTURE VI, UH, TO A FUTURE PHASE, UH, THAT WILL STILL ALLOW US TO MEET THE VISION OF THE PROJECT.

UM, SPECIFICALLY OUR UPGRADED LIGHTING ALTERNATE, UH, REQUIRES SOME SCOPE REVISION AND VALUE ENGINEERING BEFORE IT CAN BE CONSIDERED.

SO THAT'S THE ONE ALTERNATE THAT WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WE AWARD.

UM, WE RECOMMEND AFTER WE EXECUTE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT THAT WE RE THAT WE DO REDUCE SOME SCOPE ELEMENTS THROUGH A CHANGE ORDER, UM, TO ALLOW CAPACITY IN THE BUDGET TO REPACKAGE AND REBID THE, UH, THE UPGRADED LIGHTING AND ADD THAT BACK IN WHILE STILL MAINTAINING OUR CONSTRUCTION BUDGET.

UH, OF, UM, OUR OVERALL PROJECT BUDGET OF 8.1 MILLION.

SO ITEMS TO BE COMPLETED.

UM, YOU SEE BRICK AND BRICK STREETS AND UTILITIES OR INTERSECTIONS WITH UTILITIES, UM, STREETS AND UTILITIES, BACK OF CURB AMENITIES, THE CULTURAL TRAIL, UM, SOME OF THE BACK OF CURB AMENITIES, LANDSCAPING, UH, AND LIGHTING AND VEGETATION.

THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFERRING OR THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE WILL DEFER TO A FUTURE PHASE OF WORK WILL BE, UH, SOME OF THE UNDERSTORY PLANTINGS AND STEPPING PADS.

UH, THE TREES AND THE LIGHTS WILL REMAIN, UH, THAT WE REMOVE SOME OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING IN THE CENTER OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND THAT WE REMOVE THE HERO'S PARKING LOT, SORRY, THE HERO'S PARK,

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UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AS WE GO THROUGH AND BRING IN AN ACTUAL RESTAURANT, UH, TO CONSTRUCT THERE, THAT THEY WOULD THEN INCLUDE THE, THE PARKING LOT FACILITY THERE AS PART OF THEIR WORK, UH, FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE CAN REDUCE SOME OF THE LIGHTING BASED BID.

UM, WE CAN DEFER THE RESTAURANT PARKING LOT.

WE CAN DO SOME REDUCTIONS TO PLANTING AREAS.

WE CAN DO SOME, SOME REDUCTIONS TO OUR FIXTURES, FURNITURE AND EQUIPMENT.

UM, ALL TO AN AMOUNT OF, A LITTLE MORE THAN $1.1 MILLION.

WE EXPECT THAT WE WILL ADD BACK IN THEN APPROXIMATELY 1.3 MILLION FOR THE UPGRADED LIGHTING ONCE WE REDESIGN, UH, AND, AND RES SOLICIT THAT WORK THROUGH THE EXISTING CON OR THE, THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE'RE AWARDING TO TODAY.

UM, SO THE CHANGE WILL RESULT IN APPROXIMATELY WITH THE DEDUCTIONS AND IN THE ADDITION ABOUT A 3.6% INCREASE TO THE OVERALL CONTRACT, UM, THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE AWARD TODAY, WHICH IS WELL WITHIN OUR CONTINGENCY THAT WE HAVE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT.