[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]
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ORDER. AND IF YOU WOULD, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? INGALSBE HERE, MITCHELL. HERE RIZZO. PRESENT. HEIZER ZUNIGA. HARRIS, HERE. PARSLEY HERE. TOBIAS. COHEN HERE. OKAY, WE DO
[II) Approval of Minutes]
HAVE A QUORUM. SO SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS, NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. IF YOU WOULD TAKE A MOMENT, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY. AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OR NOT. SO MOVED. OKAY THERE'S A MOTION. AND A SECOND. ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. NEXT IS, CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, ARE THERE ANY CITIZENS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. ANYONE SIGNED UP? OKAY. IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM[2) Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on the 30% final design on the roundabouts on Kohlers Crossing at Cromwell, Benner, and Sanders.]
FOUR. REPORTS AND PRESENTATION. RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON THE 30% FINAL DESIGN ON THE ROUNDABOUTS ON COLAS CROSSING AT CROMWELL, BENNER AND SANDERS, AND MISTER BARBER. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS LEON BARBER, CITY ENGINEER. THIS IS JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT'S HAPPENED ON THIS PROJECT SINCE WE STARTED BACK IN 2022. THIS IS WHAT THE CURRENT 30% LAYOUT LOOKS LIKE. WE DID MAKE A FEW CHANGES TO IT. THERE'S SOME MINOR ALIGNMENTS THAT WE DID TO THE THREE ROUNDABOUTS OF THE COST INCREASED. UNFORTUNATELY IN THESE ON THESE PROJECTS, AND WE ALSO HAVE IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAVE THE THREE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE AREAS ARE BETWEEN THOSE ROUNDABOUTS STARTING FROM 2770 TO 1626, THERE WAS A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN THE PROPERTY THAT WE NEEDED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE THREE ROUNDABOUTS. THIS IS A BIG ITEM, THIS IS THE TUNNEL WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT THE TUNNEL, THE TUNNEL. TODAY'S EXISTING TEN FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT TUNNEL, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS TUNNEL, IT DOESN'T APPARENTLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BICYCLISTS. SO IT'S ONLY EIGHT FEET TALL, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE EIGHT FOOT THREE. SO THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR, BICYCLISTS TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT TUNNEL LEGALLY, THE RAMPS THAT WE DESIGNED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ARE ABOUT 400FT IN LENGTH. WE USED, A 3% SLOPE ON THESE ON THESE RAMPS, THE ESTIMATED ACQUISITION NOW HAS GONE UP TO 0.67 ACRES. IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE ALL OF THE LOT ON THE SOUTH WEST CORNER, AND WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A GOOD PORTION OF THE LOT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER. THE TOTAL COST RIGHT NOW IS AT 6.5 MILLION. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE DESIGN. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. IT DOES INCLUDE THE, CONSTRUCTION COST AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE DESIGN. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SHEET THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, AND HOPEFULLY I CAN EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENT ITEMS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, LET ME START OFF WITH NUMBER ONE. THIS IS A RETAIL ROAD PROJECT THAT 8.14 FOR 800,800 IS THE COST THAT WE RECENTLY APPROVED. THAT'S GOT THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. IT ALSO HAS ABOUT A 5% CONTINGENCY IN IT. SO THAT'S PRETTY WELL SAID. HOPEFULLY WE WON'T NEED ANY MORE THAN WHAT WE ASSIGNED TO THAT PROJECT. ITEM NUMBER TWO. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MIDDLE COLUMN THAT ON THE RIGHT, THAT GOLD COLUMN, MAY 2224, I'M SORRY, THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COST. LOOK AT THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COST COLUMN. WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 5 MILLION FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT CROMWELL AND COLAS ON THE NUMBER THREE, WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 5.8 MILLION FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT BENNER AND COLAS FOR THE ROUNDABOUT AT SANDERS AND COLAS, WE'RE ESTIMATING $5.9 MILLION, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOT IS ESTIMATED AT $1.2 MILLION. BY THE WAY, WE'RE OPENING BIDS ON THAT PROJECT THURSDAY. WE'LL SEE HOW THAT ONE COMES IN ON OUR BIDS, I DID FORGET TO MENTION THAT ON THE NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON JUNE THE 10TH.JUST SO THAT YOU'LL KNOW ABOUT THAT. BUT ANYWAY, LET ME BACK GO BACK TO NUMBER FIVE. SO WE DO PLAN TO OPEN UP BIDS THURSDAY. WE'LL SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS COME IN. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME GOOD BIDS FROM THE CONTRACTORS OUT THERE, IF YOU ADD UP THOSE NUMBERS FROM ONE THROUGH FIVE, THAT'S ABOUT $26 MILLION. IF YOU NOTICE, AT THE TOP OF THE LIST OF THE CHART THERE, WE SAID 34.4 IS WHAT OUR MAXIMUM AMOUNT WE HAVE AVAILABLE BASED ON THE LAST PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR NUMBER TWO. SO ONCE YOU GET PAST FIVE, THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE
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THE FUNDING FOR. IF WE STAY WITH THAT 34.4 MILLION, THE PARKING GARAGES AT AROUND 10 MILLION, THE TOTAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE ABOUT 6.5 MILLION. AND THE ILLUMINATION, THE OVERHEAD, UNDERGROUND UTILITY RELOCATIONS, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, THE PAVING, THE STUFF THAT'S BETWEEN THE ROUNDABOUTS. WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT $11.7 MILLION. IF WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH NUMBER EIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD GO AHEAD AND BREAK THAT INTO AD ALTERNATES AND SEE WHAT, WHAT THE COST WOULD BE FOR THE, FOR THE ILLUMINATION FOR THE OVERHEAD UNDERGROUND BURIAL THAT WE WOULD NEED SIDEWALKS AND PAVING. SO I WOULD BREAK THOSE INTO AD ALTERNATES. LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN AFFORD. IF WE HAD SOME MONEY AVAILABLE TO DO ANY OF THOSE ITEMS. SO THAT'S HOW I WOULD SET IT UP. IF I HAD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT ON THIS, THE TOTAL BUDGET WE'RE ESTIMATING WE WOULD NEED WOULD BE 54 POINT ALMOST $3 MILLION.AND AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND YOU, WE'RE AT 34.4 ON THE MAXIMUM. SO TODAY WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO HELP GIVE US SOME DIRECTION AS TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS NUMBER TWO. THIS IS THE CONTRACT THAT'S, WE'RE HOPING TO AWARD TO THE CONSULTANT TO ACTUALLY DO THE DESIGN. THE AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT ONE, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IT DOES NOT INCLUDE MONEY FOR THE DESIGN OF THE TUNNEL, BUT IT INCLUDES FOR DESIGN OF EVERYTHING FROM 2770 TO 1626, INCLUDING THE ROUNDABOUTS, INCLUDING THE PAVING, INCLUDING THE ILLUMINATION, INCLUDING, ANY, ANY WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO BETWEEN THE ROUNDABOUTS. NOW, QUESTIONS I WOULD JUST SAY FROM A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, OBVIOUSLY, THE TUNNEL IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF TIMES WITH THIS BOARD. IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE LOOKED AT. WE JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT VERY FEASIBLE FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE. OR IF YOU LOOK AT THE RAMPS THAT WERE DRAWN OUT HERE, IT'S, VERY UNUSUAL DESIGN WITH HAVING TO HAVE THAT MANY KIND OF CHARGEBACKS AND CHANGES WITH, WITH THE GRADES THAT ARE OVER THERE. SO WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND, MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
CERTAINLY WANTED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT IT TODAY IF, IF THE BOARD FELT DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT, WE COULD PERHAPS LOOK AT IT AGAIN. BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD WITH THAT DESIGN. AND THEN I THINK THE, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO GET FROM THE BOARD WAS JUST THE PRIORITY ON, THE OVERALL PROJECTS. I THINK DOING ALL THREE ROUNDABOUTS HAS CLEARLY BEEN SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN FOCUSED ON. AND LEON, IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING BACK TO THAT OTHER CHART, AND THEN WE HAD THE, OF COURSE, THE PARKING LOT, WHICH WE'RE HOPING TO GET BIDS ON, I BELIEVE, LATER THIS WEEK, AND BRING BACK A CONTRACT TO YOU ON THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND THE PARKING GARAGE ITSELF IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN A PRIORITY AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE PRIORITIES FOR THE BOARD. THEN WE CAN BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU AS THOSE KIND OF MATRICULATE FORWARD, AND WE HAVE BETTER COST ESTIMATES AND DESIGNS ON EACH ONE OF THOSE. BUT, I WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU JUST TO KIND OF GET OUT ON THE TABLE ABOUT THE TUNNEL ITSELF. IT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA, AND IT JUST WAS VERY COSTLY, DIFFICULT TO DO. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, I KNOW THAT MR. BARBARA, SAID THAT HE WOULD MAYBE JUMP DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PICK AND CHOOSE SOME OF THOSE. AND, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE PARKING GARAGE, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST, AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT. I KNOW IT WOULD PUT US OVER, THE 34.4, BUT JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, WOULD THERE BE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS AVAILABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? I AM REALLY IN FAVOR. I THINK THAT PARKING GARAGE WILL BRING A LOT OF BENEFIT TO THAT WHOLE AREA. AND ALTHOUGH I SEE THAT IT'S IN THE PRIORITY LIST AS NUMBER SIX, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY ONE OF PRIORITY NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP THE REST OF THAT RETAIL COME FASTER, WHICH WILL BENEFIT THE TOURISTS OVERALL. WELL, SO WHERE SO YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU THINK A PARKING GARAGE WHERE THAT'S THE QUESTION, WHERE WOULD WE PUT ONE? YOU'RE JUST SAYING IN THE RETAIL DISTRICT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT PLANS RIGHT NOW. THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THEIR PHASING. SO IF WE STARTED IN YEAR ONE PURSUING A PARKING GARAGE IN THE INTERIOR OR INTERIOR AREA, IT WOULD STAND JUST ALONE UNTIL THE PROJECT KICKED OFF. NOW, DO YOU THINK THAT MIGHT HELP THE RETAIL TO COME AROUND IT? WELL, I'VE, I'VE FELT THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO A PARKING GARAGE IS IN TANDEM WITH SOME OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE PURSUED, SPORTSPLEX PROJECT, THAT NORTHERN END IS WHERE THE
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HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER SITE WOULD GO. AND THERE'S A REALLY GOOD ARGUMENT TO BE MADE BECAUSE THAT, LIKE, IF YOU HAVE A BIG REGIONAL SPORTSPLEX, IT REQUIRES A LOT OF PARKING AND IT CAN EAT UP A HUGE CHUNK OF YOUR GREEN SPACE. AND SO IF WE IF WE WENT OUT, MAYBE WE COULD FIND FUNDING FOR IT THERE THROUGH A BOND PROPOSITION TO THE VOTERS, AND SO THAT ANY PROJECT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PARKING LOT AVERSE, AND IF THE VOTERS SUPPORTED IT, THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO GET THAT NORTHERN ANCHOR FUNDED. AND I THINK IF WE TRIED TO PRIORITIZE THE REASON THE PARKING GARAGE IS LOW IS NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID. WHAT YOU SAY IS EXACTLY RIGHT. IT'S JUST THEY'RE NOT DOING THE MIXED USE VERTICAL DEVELOPMENTS ON THE RETAIL STRIP WHERE THE PARKING GARAGE NEEDS TO GO. THE ONLY REAL DEMAND RIGHT NOW IS IN THE SPORTSPLEX AREA, AND THAT'S IF THAT PROJECT ACTUALLY MOVES FORWARD. AND I DO THINK THE ROUNDABOUTS CREATE A HUGE. SO IF YOU TAKE OUT. SO IF WE TOOK THE PARKING GARAGE OFF OF THIS AND SAID WE'RE GOING TO FUND THAT THROUGH A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OR THROUGH A DIFFERENT SOURCE, AND THEN YOU TAKE THE TUNNEL IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S 13 MILLION OFF THE PARKING LOT, 1 MILLION THAT'S CASH FUNDED, AND THE 8.144 MILLION THAT'S ALREADY BONDS ISSUED. THEY BREAK GROUND NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE. JUNE. IS THAT RIGHT? JUNE 10TH. JUNE 10TH IS WHEN THEY BREAK GROUND ON THAT. SO THAT THAT THAT'S ALREADY FUNDED. SO REALLY WE CAN COME BACK DOWN TO FOUR PLUS FOUR PLUS SIX IS THE THREE ROUNDABOUT PROJECTS. AND THEN NUMBER EIGHT IS THE ILLUMINATION. AND YOU CAN ADD THOSE PROJECTS UP AND TRY TO DETERMINE MAYBE A PHASING SCHEDULE FOR HOW WE WOULD DELIVER THAT. AND I DO THINK WE HAVE THE CASH FLOWS SUFFICIENT DEPENDING ON HOW WE DO THINGS TO GET CLOSE TO FUNDING. ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS WITH TOURS, REVENUE BACKED CITY CO BONDS JUST LIKE THE RETAIL ROADS AGREEMENT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER EIGHT. SO IF WE WERE TO UNDER ILLUMINATION OVERHEAD TO THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES AND OTHER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, ARE WE PLANNING ON HAVING ANY, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING? WE'LL HAVE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AT THE ROUNDABOUTS FOR SURE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IN THE CONSULTANT IS HERE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE INSTALLING THESE RIBS, RECTANGULAR, RAPID FLASHING BEACONS TO HELP WITH THE PEDESTRIANS GET ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S THE ONES WHERE YOU JUST PUSH THE BUTTON AND IT STARTS FLASHING TO HELP YOU GET ACROSS THE ROAD. SO THE ROAD ITSELF STARTS FLASHING. THERE'S LIGHTS UP ON THE ROAD, AND THEY ILLUMINATE BY SOMEBODY WALKING BY. OR THEY'LL HAVE THEM OVERHEAD. IT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THOSE INSTANCES. SO WE CAN GO EITHER OR. RIGHT, LEON? EITHER THE ONES ON THE ROADWAY OR THE ONES OVERHEAD. CORRECT I THINK THE ONES WITH OVERHEAD ARE CALLED, REMIND ME, STEVE, THE, HAS ANOTHER ACRONYM OF THE, I LIKE THE ONES BY ROADWAY.HAWKEYE. YEAH, THEY'RE THOSE WIRES. AND IT'S LESS OF A CHANCE OF SOMEBODY, SOME CONSTRUCTION TRUCK COMING AND TAKING THEM OUT. RIGHT. SO I LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE ROADWAY. SO THERE WILL THERE WILL BE A PEDESTRIAN BIKE. CROMWELL. AND CALLERS. CORRECT. CROMWELL. THAT WOULD JUST BASICALLY PUT YOU FROM GO BACK TO THAT ON THE SLIDE SO WE CAN SEE WHAT FROM CROMWELL TO THE HEROES MEMORIAL, BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG PEDESTRIAN. LIKE I CROSS THAT ALL THE TIME AT THE FAITH OF GOD TO NOT GET KILLED. SO I'M NOT LYING. SO WE BELIEVE YOU, BUT YOU'LL IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THERE'S A BIT OF A CURVE AS YOU ENTER THESE ROUNDABOUTS. THAT'S THE INTENT, OF COURSE, IS TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN GOING THROUGH THOSE ROUNDABOUTS. AND THEN THE INTENT IS ALSO TO PLAN TO PUT THESE, RECTANGULAR, RAPID FLASHING BEACONS IN THOSE AREAS SO WE CAN HELP PEDESTRIANS GET ACROSS THE ROAD. THE HAWKS OR THE OTHER SYSTEMS THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT.
THE HAWKS ARE FAIRLY EXPENSIVE. THEY'RE AROUND 200,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THESE THINGS ARE NOT THAT EXPENSIVE. SO THAT'S THE SAVINGS THERE. SO THAT YOU HAVE THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL. THEY WORK. YOU HAVE THE CROSSWALKS MARKED ON HERE. RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING.
YEAH. YES. AND WE DO HAVE CROSSWALKS MARKED ON THIS. SO MAYOR IF WE DID WHAT YOU SAID AND WHEN YOU KNOW WITH 123, FOUR, FIVE MOVED SIX AND SEVEN DOWN, BUT MOVED EIGHT UP, THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH MONEY TO FUND EVERYTHING, WOULDN'T THERE? I THINK CLOSE IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON SOME PRIORITIZATION DECISIONS OF THIS BOARD AS WELL AS OTHER AREAS. BUT IF REAL QUESTION SO WHAT'S THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE US IS TO FUND THE 30% DESIGN OF BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE HERE. IS THAT CORRECT? THIS IS A 30. SO THE NEXT THING YOU WILL FUND WILL BE THE FULL DESIGN. SO WHAT'S ON. YEAH. ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT IS TO FUND THIS TO 30% DESIGN. IT'S A BIG IT'S A BIG COMMITMENT FOR US TO MAKE 100. IT IS THE 30% IS 30% DESIGNED. YOU'RE SAYING THIS TAKES US TO 100? YES SIR. OKAY. SO EVEN BIGGER COMMITMENT RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING ALL THE WAY. WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS AS A PRIORITY. WE THERE'S BEEN THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE WANTED TO PURSUE PHASING THESE IN ONE AT A TIME, OR DOING THEM ALL AT THE
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SAME TIME. AND I'VE, I'VE BEEN ON THE SIDE OF I REALLY BELIEVE WE SHOULD DO THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT. BASICALLY, ALL COOLERS WILL BE TORN UP FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS PROBABLY, BUT WHEN IT'S OVER THERE, IT'S A TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT. IF YOU DO THEM ONE AT A TIME, THAT'S LIKE A DECADE OF THE ROAD BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON SO WE CAN ACHIEVE GETTING THERE OR CLOSE TO THERE IF WE PRIORITIZE IT.BUT IT DOES MEAN WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC THAT THE TERM'S REVENUE BACK CO BOND FORMAT THAT WE'RE USING FOR THIS AND THE RETAIL ROADS IS NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR A PARKING GARAGE FOR A FEW MORE YEARS. SURE. AND WHAT IS THE PRICE, FOR OR COST FOR 100% DESIGN. WE'RE AT 30 ALREADY. SO TO TAKE US TO 100, WHAT IS THAT COST? I GUESS I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM, 2.4 MILLION 2.4. SO THAT WOULD TAKE US. YEAH, A LITTLE OVER AND THEN WE'D BE GOING TO BID AND CONSTRUCTION RIGHT AFTER THAT. IF WE HAD THE IF WE HAD THE CAPACITY. THAT'S CORRECT.
YEAH. BUT JUST TO LET THE BOARD KNOW WE DO HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE TEARING UP, COLORS. IT'S A LARGE TRANSMISSION LANE THAT WILL BE STARTING AT 16, 26 UP TO ABOUT BENNER. IT'S, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A NEW WATER LINE IN THERE TO FEED THAT PARTICULAR WATER SITE.
SO THAT'LL HOPEFULLY BE STARTING WITHIN A YEAR. SO IT'S GOING TO BE TORN UP FOR QUITE A WHILE.
YES. THE OTHER THING ABOUT STARTING THEM ALL THREE AT THE SAME TIME IS THAT WE MINIMIZE THE COST, BECAUSE EACH ONE WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE THE LONGER YOU WAIT. THAT'S RIGHT. YES. SO WE'LL HAVE THE SAME COST FOR ALL THREE, OR DEPENDING ON THE DESIGN OF EACH ONE AND EASEMENT.
BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY WISE THING TO DO, EVEN THOUGH TWO YEARS OF THE WHOLE STREET BEING TORN UP IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS PROBLEMATIC, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN TEN YEARS. YEAH, YOU'LL GET PUBLIC COMMENT. WELL, AND ALSO JUST AS AN UPDATE. SO JUNE 10TH IS WHEN THE RETAIL ROAD. SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, THAT ROUNDABOUT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT'S NOT FUNDED, BUT EVERYTHING NORTH OF THAT, THAT THAT'S ABOUT TO BREAK GROUND. THE SPROUTS I THINK IS ITSELF THE PROJECT. PLUS THAT 20,000FT■!S OR 18,000FT■!S OF RETAIL, THAT'S ALL ABOUT TO BREAK GROUND. I THINK IN JULY. AND THEN THE PARKING GARAGE, YOU'LL BE BRINGING AT A FUTURE MEETING HERE IN JUST A MONTH OR TWO FOR CONSTRUCTION, I WOULD ASSUME. RIGHT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AS SOON AS WE CONFIRM ALL THE NUMBERS, LET'S GET SOME GOOD BIDS IN, CONFIRM ALL THE NUMBERS WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO THAT TO YOU AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, SO WE CAN GET THE CONTRACTOR STARTED FOR THE PARKING LOT. WE MAY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, DID I SAY GARAGE? YOU SAID GARAGE PARKING. PARKING, PARKING LOT PARKING LOT, PARKING LOT? YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO BE. I JUST WANT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. WE HOPE TO GET THE BIDS IN THIS WEEK AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU. SO IN A MONTH FOR THE PARKING LOT, YOU THINK? HOPE SOONER THAN THAT. OKAY. WE WANT TO HAVE IT OPEN BY OCTOBER. SO THE POINT IS, OVER THE COURSE OF THIS SUMMER, WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF KOHLER AND THAT'S GOING TO REALLY PUT THE PRESSURE ON KOHLER'S ITSELF. SO I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE TO THIS POINT. I JUST HOPE WE WILL STAY THE COURSE. WELL WITH MARKETPLACE COMING IN, HOPEFULLY THAT CAN GET DONE PRETTY QUICKLY AND WE CAN THAT'LL BE ANOTHER ARTERY THROUGH THAT AREA. SO HOPEFULLY MARKETPLACE WILL BE THE SHINING LIGHT THERE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THAT'S A NEW ROAD. SO YOU DON'T YOU'RE NOT BLOCKING TRAFFIC OFF SO THAT ROAD I THINK COULD BE DEVELOPED A LOT QUICKER THAN WHAT WE'RE THINKING. SO HOPEFULLY. I THINK FOR US TODAY WAS MAKING SURE WE HAD AGREEMENT ON THE, THE TUNNEL AND MAKING SURE YOU GUYS WERE COMFORTABLE WITH HOW WE WERE APPROACHING THAT ISSUE. AND THEN AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, GETTING US TO 100% PLANS TO START THAT PROCESS . I THINK THESE OTHER DECISIONS, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MAKE ALL OF THOSE TODAY. WE CAN BRING YOU BACK OPTIONS AND SHOW YOU OTHER ALTERNATIVES. BUT I DO LIKE, LEON'S IDEA ABOUT SOME ADD ALTERNATES THAT WE COULD SHOW IN THE BIDS ONCE WE GET THE FINAL DESIGN, THEN WE COULD KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE SOMETHING THAT MADE SENSE AT THAT TIME. WHEN WE HAVE ALL THE COST INFORMATION TOGETHER. I'M NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR ON WHAT DECISION WE'VE MADE ABOUT THE TUNNEL. IF WE IT IT WOULDN'T WORK. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. SO WE NEED TO JUST DO AWAY WITH EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING FOR THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSES AT MAX DESIGN LEVELS FOR THOSE PEDESTRIANS. YEAH WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT SLOW DOWN. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO HAVE FORCED. DELINEATORS IN THE WAY THAT THESE ROUNDABOUTS ARE DESIGNED. YOU HAVE TO SLOW DOWN.
THE WHOLE WAY THAT YOU APPROACH IT CAUSES YOU TO SLOW DOWN, AND IT MAKES IT VERY SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS. IF IT'S DONE RIGHT. THESE LOOK GOOD TO ME. I MEAN, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, THOUGH.
THANK YOU. OKAY, SO THERE'S NO ACTION BUT DIRECTION ON THIS. BUT WE'VE GOT DIRECTION. I HOPE YOU SO. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT'S CLEAR TO NOT PROCEED WITH THE TUNNEL. AND THEN WHEN YOU WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, THEN YOU WOULD BE APPROVING A CONTRACT TO DESIGN IT WITHOUT THE TUNNEL. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PARKING GARAGE AT THIS POINT, CORRECT? NO, MA'AM. AND
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THAT'S NOT IN FRONT OF YOU. OKAY. SO, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WHAT? WE'RE[3) Consider approval of Task Order #2 with American Structurepoint Inc. in the amount of $2,451,013.38 for finalizing design, right of way services and construction support for the roundabouts on Kohlers Crossing at Cromwell, Benner, and Sanders.]
DONE WITH THREE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. OKAY. SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF TASK ORDER NUMBER TWO WITH AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT POINT INC IN THE AMOUNT OF 2,451,000, $13.38 FOR FINALIZING DESIGN RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION SUPPORT FOR THE ROUNDABOUTS ON KOHLERS CROSSING AT CROMWELL, BENNER AND SANDERS. MR. BARBARA.AGAIN, YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. THIS IS OUR SUMMARY, FOR THE PROJECTS, AND YOU'VE SEEN THIS ALREADY. OPTION ONE IS TO APPROVE TASK ORDER NUMBER TWO, THE AMERICAN STRUCTURE POINT IN THE AMOUNT OF TWO PLUS MILLION DOLLARS FOR FINALIZING DESIGN, RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES, CONSTRUCTION SUPPORT FOR THE COLLEGE CROSSING, ROUNDABOUTS. THIS OPTION WOULD ALLOW FINALIZING DESIGN FOR ALL ITEMS, EXCLUDING THE PEDESTRIAN TUNNEL. THE TOTAL COST OF THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS IS 50.343, AND FINANCIAL FORECAST INDICATES ONLY 34.4 MILLION IS AVAILABLE.
WE MAY NEED TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES LATER, BUT WE'LL SEE WHEN THAT HAPPENS. OPTION NUMBER TWO IS DO NOT APPROVE TASK ORDER NUMBER TWO AND DIRECT STAFF TO REVISE SCOPE OF WORK AND RECEIVE A NEW CONTRACT. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPTION NUMBER ONE.
AND AGAIN THIS IS FOR THE COMPLETE DESIGN FROM 2770 TO 1626. INCLUDES THE ROUNDABOUTS.
INCLUDES SIDEWALKS. INCLUDES ILLUMINATION. INCLUDES SIDEWALKS , PAVEMENT REPAIR, THE WHOLE, GAMUT OF THE PROJECT FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER INCLUDES COMPLETE DESIGN. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS I DO. WHAT'S THE CONTINGENCY FOR THIS? PARDON THE CONTINGENCY AMOUNT. IS IT LIKE 10% OR. AND IS IT INCLUDED? NOT ON NOT NOT ON THIS CONTRACT. BUT TYPICALLY IN CONSTRUCTION IT'S EITHER 5 TO 10, DEPENDING ON HOW BIG OF A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IT IS. BUT WE DID HAVE CONTINGENCIES IN OUR ESTIMATES. SO BUT THEN SOMETIMES THINGS DON'T WORK OUT THE WAY WE WANTED THEM TO. SO FOR THE DESIGN IT'S ALREADY INCLUDED. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO CONTINGENCY ON THE DESIGN. THAT'S JUST THE PRICE FOR THE WHOLE PRICE. OKAY. YEAH. THIS IS JUST HE IS ON THE BUILD WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING IT IN CASE THERE'S A RISING COST OF MATERIAL, UNFORESEEN THINGS FOR AN EXTENDED I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE IS ANY EXTENSION INTO THE CONTRACT OR IF THERE WAS GOING TO TAKE LONGER TO DO THE DESIGN. ANY EXTENSIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO COST MONEY OR TIME.
WE'LL BRING BACK TO COUNCIL. OKAY. I'M SORRY, TO THE BOARD. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. IS THERE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A COUPLE OF SECONDS.
YES. THE SECOND WAS OVER THERE. OKAY OKAY, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND IF NO FURTHER QUESTIONS , ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SIX. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND.
OKAY. IT'S A MOTION.
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