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[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]
EVERYONE.THE TIME IS 7:06 PM IT IS TUESDAY, JUNE THE FOURTH, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLE MITCHELL.
ALRIGHT, UH, SEVEN MEMBERS PRESENT.
[II) Approval of Minutes]
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.MAYOR, I WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON MAY 22ND AND ALSO THE SPECIAL MEETING.
ALRIGHT, MOTION BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBI, SECONDED BY MAYOR PROTE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.AT THIS TIME WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO SO.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UH, AND FINALLY WE ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
UM, I DO NOT THINK THAT I HAVE ANY, DO I HAVE ANY? WE HAVE SOME OVER THERE TO YOUR LEFT REGISTER.
I SENT A LETTER TO A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TODAY, WHICH IS 78 DAYS LATER.
I HAVE STILL NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM MAYOR TRAVIS MITCHELL AND COUNCIL MEMBERS GLENN HEISER AND LAURA LEE HARRIS.
I THINK 78 DAYS IS MORE THAN AMPLE TIME TO EXPECT A RESPONSE.
SPEAKING HERE TONIGHT AGAIN, PROVES MY POINT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THESE THREE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE ARROGANT, PRIVILEGED, AND THINK THEY'RE NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE THEY SERVE.
I'M NOT INTIMIDATED AND I'M NOT GOING AWAY.
I MENTIONED THE CITY OF KYLE ORGANIZATION CHART AT PRIOR MEETINGS, THE CITY COUNCIL ANSWERS TO THE RESIDENTS AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
IF I CAN TRUST YOU TO RESPOND TO A SIMPLE LETTER, HOW CAN I TRUST YOU TO RUN THE CITY OF KYLE? AND AFTER 78 DAYS OF WAITING, WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT ME TO TRUST YOU? I DID NOT CAUSE THIS PROBLEM.
I ADDRESSED IT AT THE MARCH 7TH, 2024 COUNCIL MEETING.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER PUBLICLY ACCUSED SIX RESIDENTS OF BEING HATERS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE SPOKE IN OPPOSITION TO HIS PROPOSED PRIDE THEME MARKET DAYS.
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, PLEASE TO VIEW THE MARCH 7TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SPECIFICALLY THE CITY CITIZENS' COMMENT PORTION TO SEE THE TRUTH, YOU WILL SEE THE COUNCIL MEMBER HEER WAS VERY DISRESPECTFUL, CONDESCENDING, AND UNPROFESSIONAL IN HIS REACTION AND RESPONSE TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE HIS PROPOSAL.
NAME CALLING AND ACCUSATIONS ARE SO UNBECOMING OF LEADERSHIP.
THESE TRAITS DRIP OF ARROGANCE.
SADLY, MAYOR TRAVIS MITCHELL NEVER ADDRESSED THIS BEHAVIOR AND ALLOWED COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER TO CONTINUE TO ALLY CRITICIZE THOSE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION.
THE MAYOR SHOULD HAVE STEPPED IN AND DIRECTLY ADDRESSED COUNCIL MEMBER, HE'S INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR.
THE CITIZENS OF COW DESERVE TO BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT.
WHEN THEY COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR REMAINED SILENT.
HE ALLOWED THE CRITICISM, CRITICISM TO CONTINUE.
AS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER LAURA LEE HARRIS, BY NOT RESPONDING TO A SIMPLE LETTER TELLS ME THAT YOU FEEL YOU ARE PRIVILEGED AND THE LETTER WRITER IS UNDESERVING OF YOUR RESPONSE.
UNFORTUNATELY, FOR YOU, YOUR ACTIONS PROVE MY POINT.
THESE THREE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE REVEALED THEIR TRUE COLORS BY NOT RESPONDING TO A SIMPLE LETTER.
EVEN AFTER 78 DAYS HAVE PASSED.
THEY ARE ARROGANT, THEY ARE PRIVILEGED, AND THEY HAVE PROVEN BY THEIR ACTIONS THAT THEY'RE UNACCOUNTABLE TO THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE.
HOW WERE THE OTHER FOUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ABLE TO FIND THE TIME TO RESPOND? IF YOU THINK I WOULD EVER VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN'T EVEN RESPOND TO A LETTER AFTER 78 DAYS, YOU ARE WRONG.
THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO BE SHOWN THE DOOR.
MAYOR MITCHELL, YOU HAVE MY NUMBER.
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GOOD EVENING.I LIVE IN FOUR SEASONS FARMS. I WANT TO SAY THAT I OPPOSE ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE ON THE AGENDA.
I LIVE OFF OF ONE 50 EAST AND THIS WILL CREATE SIGNIFICANT CONGESTION, FURTHER COMPLICATING TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.
I'M DISAPPOINTED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM BACK.
SINCE THE APRIL 2ND COUNCIL MEETING WHERE A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL VOTED TO BREAK THE CHARTER AND GIVE THEMSELVES THE PERK OF FULLY PAID HEALTHCARE BENEFITS, I'VE SPENT EXPENSE EXTENSIVE TIME READING ORDINANCES, THE CHARTER PERSONNEL POLICIES, AND AS MANY DOCUMENTS AS I'VE HAD THE ABILITY TO RECEIVE.
WHAT I HAVE FOUND IS SHOCKING CITY COUNCIL AND OUR HARD EMPLOYEES COMMONLY AND FLAGRANTLY IGNORE AND TRUMP ON TEXAS STATE LAW OR CHARTER CITY POLICIES AND GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRACTICES.
CITY COUNCIL SELECTIVELY CHOOSES WHO THEY WILL RESPOND TO AND WHEN CONSTITUENTS REACH OUT.
RECENTLY, DANIELLA PARSLEY MADE A STATEMENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA STATING THAT IF I EMAILED HER, SHE WOULD RESPOND TO ME BECAUSE SHE KNOWS WHO I AM.
IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AND I'VE YET TO RECEIVE A RESPONSE.
OUR CITY COUNCIL IS COMPENSATED MORE THAN ANY OTHER CITY OF COMPARABLE SIZE IN THE AREA AND WAS GIVEN A $500 STIPEND FOR THINGS LIKE COFFEES AND MEALS.
SO THEY WOULDN'T PUT THOSE THINGS ON THEIR CITY CREDIT CARDS.
COUNCIL STILL CHARGES ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
THE CITY PERSONNEL POLICY LIMITS HOTEL ROOM REIMBURSEMENT TO $135 A NIGHT WITHOUT SPECIAL EXEMPTION PROVIDED BY THE CITY MANAGER IN ADVANCE.
YET, COUNCIL ROUTINELY STAYS IN ROOMS FAR EXCEEDING THIS RATE.
THEY ALSO HAVE A HISTORY OF MAKING UNCOWED CHARGES ON THEIR CREDIT CARDS THAT THE CITY PAYS.
I RECENTLY QUESTIONED PAYMENT OVER THE OVER COUNTER DRUGS FOR BEAR HEISER WHILE HE WAS ON A TRIP.
IT WAS CODED TO MEALS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE COUNCIL CREDIT CARD AND REIMBURSEMENTS POLICY SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT MEDICATIONS ARE AN UNALLOWED EXPENSE.
BRIAN LANGLEY APPARENTLY MAKES HIS OWN POLICIES FOR COUNSEL THOUGH, AND SAID THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER NEEDED STOMACH AIDS WHILE TRAVELING AND THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF HIM.
IS IT ANY WONDER THEN THAT HE RECEIVED A 6% PAY INCREASE WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC DEBATE OR OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT? THE CITY THRIVES ON BEING AS OPAQUE AS POSSIBLE USING EXEC EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DEBATE ALL ASPECTS OF TRANSACTIONS AND DENYING THE CITIZEN'S INFORMATION NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
THE CITY CHARTER STATES THAT WE HAVE OR SHALL HAVE NO EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISES YET.
THE TDS CONTRACT, WHICH WAS NEGOTIATED AND SIGNED ENTIRELY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IS JUST THAT IN PARAGRAPH FIVE, IT STATES THIS AGREEMENT GRANTS THE CONTRACTOR HEREIN THE EXCLUSIVE SOLE RIGHT AND CONTRACT TO PROVIDE SOLID WASTE AND REFUGE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SERVICES.
THE CITY'S SECRETARY MAKES OBTAINING PUBLIC RECORDS INFORMATION AS DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE, DESPITE IT BEING OBVIOUS THAT CREDIT CARD SPENDING BY THE CITY IS OF A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INTEREST.
I'M STILL BEING CHARGED $160 TO OBTAIN THESE RECORDS.
I KNOW YOU ALL FEEL ENTITLED AFTER ALL YOU WERE ELECTED AND PUT UP ON THAT PEDESTAL.
YOU MAY FEEL LIKE YOU CAN CONTINUE TO THUMB YOUR NOSES AT THE CITIZENS AND DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TO EXPOSE YOUR PERFECTLY AND HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ACTIONS AS PUBLIC SERVANTS AND EMPLOYEES OF WE THE PEOPLE OF KYLE.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I COME BEFORE YOU WITH SEVERAL CONCERNS.
I WANNA COMMEND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE KEEPING THEIR ETHICAL EDGE SHARP AND IMPLORE YOU.
THE PUBLIC NOTICES THIS WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS DON'T BEHAVE AS THEY SHOULD IN THE CAPACITY OF BEING A PUBLIC SERVANT.
FOR INSTANCE, RESORTING TO CALL THE PEOPLE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT HATERS FOR SIMPLY EXPRESSING A POSITION DIFFERENT FROM THEIRS.
THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE VIOLATED PUBLIC TRUST AND PROVED THEMSELVES TO BE UNWORTHY OF THE OFFICE THEY HOLD RESIDENTS OF KYLE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO REPLACE THESE INDIVIDUALS WITH PEOPLE OF GOOD CHARACTER WHO ARE WORTHY OF SERVING IN THE CAPACITY OF CITY COUNCIL.
IN 2023, A COUNCIL MEMBER VOTED FOR CREATING A NEW POSITION IN THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SHORTLY AFTER SHE DECIDED NOT TO SEEK ANOTHER TERM ON THE COUNCIL AND WAS HIRED FOR THAT VERY POSITION.
THIS ALL OCCURRED WITHIN LESS THAN FIVE MONTHS.
THE FACT THAT SHE VOTED ON THIS ISSUE WAS PLACED IN THE POSITION THE WAY SHE WAS, IS TOTALLY UNETHICAL.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPENING WITH THE RECENT MENTAL HEALTH PROPOSAL COUNCIL MEMBER.
RIZZO RAISED A CONCERN AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THIS SOUNDED LIKE THE CITY WAS TRYING TO CREATE A HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
DOES THIS MEAN THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL HAVE A POSITION WAITING FOR HIM? WHERE ARE OUR CHECKS AND BALANCES AND WHY DO WE NEED TO CREATE THIS RESOLUTION TO CREATE, UH, MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS FOR OUR MINORS WHEN THE COUNTY ALREADY PROVIDES IT? WHY ISN'T THE COUNCIL FIRST REACHING OUT TO THE COUNTY
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TO SEE HOW THE COUNTY CAN MAKE MINORS AWARE OF THEIR SERVICES? SHOULD THE COUNTY REACH OUT TO SCHOOL RESOURCE PERSONNEL OR INVESTIGATE WHAT OTHER AVENUES ARE AVAILABLE TO MAKE MINERS AWARE OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE? WHY DIDN'T WE, WE NEED TO SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR MORE WITHOUT EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS FIRST.103 33,000 FOR THE UNETHICAL HEALTHCARE DECISION BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
I WAS SURPRISED TO RECENTLY HEAR ABOUT THE WATER FEATURE IN THE TWO STEP DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
A KAYAKING FEATURE WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE WATER, WE CAN'T WATER OUR CAR IN THE DRIVEWAY.
AND ANOTHER THING IS THE TRAFFIC 350 UNITS WILL BRING TO ONE 50.
ONE 50 IS ALREADY IN, HAS A PROBLEM.
IT SEEMS THAT KYLE IS REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BASICS LIKE WATER AND ROADS.
AND SPEAKING OF WATER, I HOPE EVERYONE'S READY FOR THE RATE HIKE WE'RE ALL GOING TO INCUR IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
UM, ALSO ABOUT THEIR CREDIT CARDS AND, UH, THE, UH, STIPEND.
I THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD GO BACK IN AN EFFORT TO, FOR TRANSPARENCY TO USING THEIR PERSONAL CREDIT CARDS FOR EXPENSES, SUBMITTING THE, THE, UH, RECEIPTS AND BEING REIMBURSED FOR THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES THEY INCUR.
UM, I ALSO FEEL WE NEED A STIPEND ON BUILDING, I MEAN A MORATORIUM ON BUILDING UNTIL WE GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER CONTROL.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IF ON FLOOR SCALE.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNSEL.
MY NAME IS YVONNE FLORES KALE, AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON A FEW AGENDA ITEMS. STARTING WITH AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE.
IT IS MY HOPE IF AGENDA ITEM EIGHT PASSES THAT THERE WILL BE REAL CONVERSATIONS HAD REGARDING THE HOUSING UNITS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I HAVE YET TO HEAR ONE RESIDENT, OLD OR NEW SAY, I WISH KYLE HAD MORE HOUSING.
AND AS A REMINDER, YOU WERE ELECTED TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS ALREADY IN KYLE.
NOT POSSIBLE FUTURE RESIDENTS.
THE BACKUP MATERIAL DISCUSS, DISCUSSES THE FOLLOWING, A MAXIMUM OF 350 MULTIFAMILY UNITS IN PARCEL 3 24 TOWN HOME UNITS IN PARCEL ONE AND 15 RESIDENTIAL FLATS IN PARCEL.
ONE WITH ADDITIONAL VERBIAGE OF QUOTE, MINIMUM OF 20, MAX OF 30, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
TAKING THOSE NUMBERS MINUS THE MINIMUM OF 20 MAX OF 39 INTO CONSIDERATION, THERE WILL BE AT LEAST 309 389 HOUSING UNITS.
AFTER BRIEF RESEARCH I LEARNED RESIDENTS USE ON AVERAGE 100 TO 175 GALLONS PER DAY TO MAKE THINGS FAIR.
SINCE THESE WILL NOT BE HOMES WITH YARDS, LET'S AVERAGE IT OUT.
250 GALLONS PER DAY PER LIVING UNIT FOR TWO PEOPLE.
TWO PEOPLE AT 150 GALLONS A DAY TIMES 30 DAYS A MONTH.
THIS AVERAGES 4,500 GALLONS PER MONTH PER HOUSING UNIT.
NOW MULTIPLY THAT 4,500 GALLONS BY ALLOWABLE HOUSING UNITS, WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT 1 MILLION 700 5500 EXTRA GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY.
PER MONTH FOR THE HOUSING UNITS ALONE.
IF MY NUMBERS ARE OFF, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PROVIDE US WITH BETTER FACTUAL NUMBERS, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE, I'M SURE NOT ONE OF YOU HAS THAT INFORMATION.
WHEN YOU'LL BE VOTING, I ASK YOU, IS THIS THE BEST USE OF WATER FOR AN AREA OF TOWN THAT HAS THAT HOUSES MINIMUM RETAIL? AND PLEASE DON'T TELL ME WE CAN'T BRING THE RETAIL WITHOUT THE HOMES.
MANY CITIES, INCLUDING NEW BRAUNFELS AND SAN MARCUS HAVE AREAS THAT ARE STRICTLY RETAIL.
THIS AREA LIES WITHIN A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, KNOWN AS A TS, AND IS BEING OFFERED BOTH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND A THREE 80 AGREEMENT.
THOSE THREE INCENTIVES SHOULD ALLOW FOR NO HOUSING BY STATING THE DEVELOPER CAN'T BUILD WITHOUT THE HOMES.
YOU ARE ALLOWING DEVELOPERS TO PLAN OUR CITY, WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO.
I'M BEGGING YOU TO PLEASE THINK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS.
RETAIL IN THAT AREA WILL BE LIFE CHANGING, BUT IT SHOULD NOT COME AT THE COST OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND WATER.
IF THIS DEVELOPER CANNOT OFFER THE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT THE HOMES, MAYBE THEY CAN SELL IT TO SOMEONE WHO CAN.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEM 11.
AS A DAUGHTER OF A US SOLDIER WHO SERVED HIS COUNTRY FOR 25 YEARS, LOVE THE IDEA OF BUILDING TO BENEFIT SOLDIERS.
WITH THAT SAID, WHY IS THIS BUILDER LOOKING TO THE CITY FOR A BREAK? THESE HOMES ARE NOT WITHOUT BENEFIT TO THE BUILDER.
THERE ARE TAX CREDITS AND COSTS WRITTEN OFF THAT THE BUILDER CAN OBTAIN.
THE BACKUP INFORMATION DOESN'T EVEN DISCUSS HOW MUCH THE CITY WILL BE LOSING, INCLUDING IMPACT FEES, WHICH THE CITY COULD GREATLY USE.
I UNDERSTAND ASKING QUESTIONS.
I UNDERSTAND ASKING QUESTIONS FOR WHAT LOOKS TO BE A GENEROUS OPPORTUNITY IS TOUGH.
BUT THIS BENEFIT IS NOT FOR THE VETERANS.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND EACH OF YOU ASK QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS AND NOT BE AFRAID TO VOTE.
NOTE FOR THIS ITEM, WHICH BENEFITS THE DEVELOPER.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS DAWN CONNOLLY.
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HI.GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN INMAN.
I'M WITH KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE AS THE PROGRAM'S AND ENTERTAINMENT COORDINATOR.
AND I HAVE ELLEN IRMI, OUR COMMUNICATIONS CHAIR.
WE'D LIKE TO FORMALLY INVITE YOU TO SOME OF OUR HIGHLIGHTED EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE KRUG ACTIVITY CENTER ON 1 0 1 SOUTH ED STREET ON JUNE 12TH AT 1:00 PM HAPPY FATHER'S DAY COSMETICS.
JOIN US FOR A SPECIAL FATHER'S DAY CELEBRATION WITH COUNCILMAN DR.
MIGUEL ZUNIGA AND PLUM CREEK LABS INCORPORATION.
ZUNIGA WILL BE DEMONSTRATING THE SCIENCE BEHIND NATURAL PRODUCTS FEATURING SHAVING CREAM AFTER SHAVE AND SHAVE BULB SAMPLES.
DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR SPECIAL DADS IN YOUR LIFE.
ON JUNE 15TH FROM 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM WE'RE GONNA BE HOSTING A KEEP.
KYLE, KEEP COOL AND KYLE, ON SUMMER HEAT PREPAREDNESS FAIR.
KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE WILL BE HOSTING THIS EVENT TO EDUCATE AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
THE FOCUS OF THIS EVENT WILL BE ON SUMMER HEAT PREPAREDNESS VENDORS WILL BE PRESENT TO DISCUSS AND EDUCATE ABOUT THE SIGNS OF HEAT STROKE, WATER CONSERVATION, HOME AND CAR MAINTENANCE, AND HOW TO PROTECT OUR FOUR-LEGGED FRIENDS TO EVEN MORE TOPICS.
THERE'LL BE FOOD GAMES AND A SCAVENGER HUNT TO BRING IN THE SUMMER FUN.
A FAN DRIVE WILL ALSO BE HELD WITH PARTNERSHIP OF KYLE CITIZEN POLICE ACADEMY ALUMNI ASSOCIATION AND WILL BE ASKING FOR DONATIONS FOR NEW BOXED FANS AND OSCILLATING FANS.
PLEASE BRING THEM TO CS NOW UNTIL JUNE 15TH.
LASTLY, JUNE 19TH, FROM TEN EIGHT THIRTY TO 1:00 PM WE'LL HAVE OUR THIRD ANNUAL JUNETEENTH FLAG RAISING CEREMONY AND CELEBRATION.
JOIN US TO RAISE THE JUNETEENTH FLAG FOR THE CITY OF KYLE AND CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAY.
THE CEREMONY WILL START AT 10 30 AND WE'LL BE FOLLOWED BY MUSIC, FOOD EXHIBIT, AND KIDS CRAFTS.
WE'LL ALSO BE SHOWING THE DOCUMENTARY JUNETEENTH FAITH AND FREEDOM AT 12:00 PM THE MISSION IS TO EDUCATE ABOUT THE HISTORY AND IMPORTANCE OF JUNETEENTH, TEACH ABOUT THE SYMBOLISM OF THE FLAG, AND CELEBRATE AS A COMMUNITY, A FUN AND CULTURAL EXPERIENCE FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY.
IT'S FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
FOOD IS AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE.
LET'S CELEBRATE FREEDOM TOGETHER.
OUR PARTNERS FOR THIS IS UNFORGETTABLE, FAMILIES AND FRIENDS.
NEW SIGMA SIGMA, CHAPTER OF SIGMA GAMMA, ROSE SORORITY INCORPORATION, BEDA, JUNETEENTH AND KYLE PUBLIC LIBRARY.
WE HOPE YOU AND THE PUBLIC CAN JOIN US.
DOES UH, THAT'S ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PLEASE STATING YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE THE THING.
I'VE BEEN UP SINCE SIX 30 THIS MORNING.
I HEAR ALL EVERYBODY'S COMPLAINTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I GUESS IT GOES DOWN TO IT IS LIKE OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS RIGHT NOW, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PRESIDENCY AND ALL OF THIS.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT, LIKE YOU GUYS ARE FAILING ON THE PEOPLE, RIGHT? EVERYBODY'S GETTING A PAYCHECK.
EVERYBODY IS SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, RIGHT? THAT'S AT THE, AT THE SACRIFICE OF THE, YOU KNOW, ME HARDWORKING MIDDLE CLASS PERSON WORKING THREE JOBS TO BARELY MAKE RENT.
BECAUSE IN KYLE, YOU GUYS ARE LIKE TRYING TO BE LIKE A SMALL AUSTIN.
SO THAT GOES BACK TO EIGHT AND NINE.
I WAS HERE LAST MEETING TALKING ABOUT EIGHT AND NINE, AND I'M ALL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE TRYING NOT TO DO LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST A DRIVE THROUGH CITY.
YOU GUYS DON'T WANT YOUR TOWN TO DIE.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS WANT TO EVOLVE.
IT'S IMPORTANT AS A HUMAN RACE FOR US TO EVOLVE, RIGHT? BUT AT THE SAKE OF WHAT GREEDY MILLIONAIRES, PART OF BLACK ROCK CORPORATIONS EITHER POISONING OUR FOOD, POISONING OUR AIR, POISONING OUR WATER AT THE STAKE SO THEY CAN MAKE MULTIMILLION DOLLARS AND LIVE GREAT ON THEIR YACHTS.
WHILE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ALL HAVE INCOME.
YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY ARE SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE.
YOU GUYS DON'T STRUGGLE EVERY DAY TO PAY JUST YOUR MORTGAGE 'CAUSE EVERYTHING IS RISING.
I LIVE ON ONE 50 AND I'M REALLY INVESTED IN THIS PROPERTY FOR MANY REASONS.
I HAD A TON OF THINGS WRITTEN, BUT I'M GONNA GET STRAIGHT TO THE 0.8 AND NINE.
IT, IT'S, IT'S ABSURD IN THE ASPECT OF YOU WANTING TO DO CORPORATE RESTAURANTS, CORPORATE SHOPPING AND AMPHITHEATER.
I'M STARTING TO START MY SMALL BUSINESS AND DOING EVENT BARTENDING.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT COULD BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.
BUT I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS QUITE REALIZE HOW MUCH WATER IS GOING TO BE USED IN SUCH A SMALL AREA, OR YOU GUYS JUST DON'T CARE BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GETTING A PAYOUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD LIKE RESULT TO THE DECISIONS.
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ALSO, EVERYBODY'S SPEAKING, BUT NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THE ANIMALS, THE OWLS, THE CRITTERS THAT ARE GONNA BE SLAUGHTERED AT THE SAKE FOR THESE GUYS BEHIND US TO MAKE MULTIMILLION DOLLARS AND FOR THEM TO LIVE AND DRINK, YOU KNOW, WINE ON A YACHT.WHERE'S THE SOLUTIONS? WE COULD GO AHEAD AND TALK AND TALK AND TALK AND TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS, BUT WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS? NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT A SOLUTION.
IT'S JUST, NO OFFENSE, B***H, B***H, B***H.
RIGHT? SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO FOR THE ANIMALS? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO AS NUMBER WISE, IF WE HAVE HOUSES AND ALL OF THIS, YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY SPENDING WHAT WE DON'T HAVE, JUST LIKE THIS ADMINISTRATION.
WE'RE SPENDING, SPENDING, SPENDING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE IT.
AND IT'S GONNA TAX, TAX, TAX AND IT'S GONNA SCREW EVERYBODY ELSE UP.
SO MY THING TO YOU GUYS IS TO COME UP.
YOU GUYS ARE GODLY MEN OR SPIRITUAL MEN.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GONNA DO TO THIS LAND THAT'S BEEN HERE LONGER THAN EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM? WHAT ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS? HOW ARE YOU GONNA PROTECT IT? THEY HAVEN'T EVEN PROPOSED AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE FACTORS AND NOT JUST GREED.
IS THERE, UH, UH, ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD? GO AHEAD AND STATING YOUR NAME'S.
IF YOU'LL ALSO, THERE'S A FORM OVER THERE.
IF YOU'LL FILL, FILL THAT OUT AND, UH, SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY.
MY NAME IS DOMINGO ROMA CASTELLA.
AND UH, LAST MONDAY WE HAD MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONIES AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UH, MIGUEL SUNGA FOR HIS GREAT AND INSPIRING SPEECH.
AND I GUESS HE'S GONNA HAVE ANOTHER GET TOGETHER.
HE'S GONNA CREATE ALL THOSE PORSCHES AND ALL THE GOOD STUFF, RIGHT? YES, I WILL.
AND, UH, LAST TIME HE WAS GONNA HAVE A SHAVING CREAM.
HE WAS, HE WAS GONNA, UH, GIMME A SHAVE WITH A STRAIGHT BLADE.
SO, BUT THANK YOU A LOT FOR THAT GREAT, UH, SPEECH YOU MADE.
MY NAME'S JOE PETERS LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
UH, I'M GONNA CHANGE GEARS A LITTLE BIT WITH EVERYONE.
UH, I COME HERE TODAY TO, UH, GIVE MY APPRECIATION FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE KYLE ACADEMY.
UM, UH, A EVEN A BIGGER THANKS TO ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT CAME OUT.
AND THEY WEREN'T WORKING NORMAL HOURS.
THIS WAS FROM SIX TO EIGHT EVERY MONDAY OF THE LAST SIX WEEKS.
AND, UH, THEY WERE VERY INFORMATIVE.
UH, I THINK I SAW THE FINANCIAL DIRECTOR EARLIER.
HE STARTED AND WE WERE ALL SCARED, UH, WITHOUT USING A BAD WORD, BUT WE, WE WERE SCARED, UH, FINANCIALLY.
AND HE WAS ABLE TO USE TERMS AND UH, UM, ANALOGIES TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW BIG THIS IS AND, AND HOW SIMPLE IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO.
SO EVERYONE'S PRESENTATIONS WERE REALLY GOOD.
UH, SPEAKING PERSONALLY, I KNOW THAT THEY ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS.
UH, I SEEM TO HAVE GOT THE GOLD STAR FOR ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
UH, OTHERS ASK VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.
SO I WANNA TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR CITY EMPLOYEES THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
UH, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME ASPECT GOING FORWARD.
I HAVEN'T CHOSEN EXACTLY WHICH WAY I'D LIKE TO GO, BUT I CAN SAY FROM WHAT I'VE LEANED INTO AS FAR AS THE COMMITTEES I'VE COME UP AND LISTENED TO AS PART OF OUR HOMEWORK THAT WE NEEDED TO DO, THAT I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID IS, UH, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW AND OBSERVATION, THE CITY OF KYLE IS IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT FOR THIS GROWTH RIGHT NOW.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADVERTISE TO GROWTH.
SO I'M TELLING YOU TO BE PICKY.
I'M TELLING YOU, YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED THE WATER PROBLEM.
I'M TELLING YOU, YOU'VE GOT TO BE PICKY.
YOU CAN BE DEMANDING AND PICKY.
THESE RICH PEOPLE ARE GONNA BUILD, BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY GUIDE 'EM THE RIGHT WAY SO THAT WE ALL HAVE A BENEFIT FROM IT.
WHETHER IT'S JOBS, TAX BASE, UH, NOT OVERUSE OF WATER AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND, AND PART OF WHAT I'VE ALSO SAID, IT WAS ONE OF THE TOURS THAT'S JUST BEEN CREATED FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
I'M GOING TO IMPLORE YOU TO NOT BE LIKE THE CITY OF BUTTA AND REMOVE THEIR WATER TOWER.
THEY COMPLETELY DIS DISSOLVE THE BEAUTY OF THEIR DOWNTOWN BY REMOVING THE WATER TOWER ON OUR FIRST DAY.
UH, IT WAS JUST REALLY COOL ENTERTAINING.
BUT THE WATER TOWER IS SYMBOLIC TO THE SMALL TOWN THAT WE WANT TO ALWAYS HOLD ONTO.
AND, UH, TO, TO LOSE THAT WOULD BE, WOULD BE A CRYING SHAME.
SO IN THE, IN THE THOUGHT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF DOWNTOWN STUFF, KEEP SOME OF THESE SMALL TOWN, UH, FEELINGS AND DIRECTIONS AND STRENGTH AND UH, DON'T BE LIKE AUSTIN.
WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA GET YOU IN TROUBLE OF HAVING AN IMPROPER BENEFIT, BUT THAT HAT IS REALLY COOL.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
SO HOPEFULLY YOU WON'T GET TOO MUCH TROUBLE
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WITH.SERIOUSLY, THAT'S THE NICEST HAT THAT I'VE SEEN.
ALRIGHT, I ACKNOWLEDGE THE GRADUATE.
ALRIGHT, UH, THAT'S, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE.
[2) Agenda Order per Rules of Council Sec. B1.]
AGENDA ORDER.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ITEMS THAT THEY WISH TO, UH, REQUEST TO BE MOVED? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'LL KEEP RIGHT ALONG.
[3) Receive a presentation of Graduates of the 2024 Team Kyle Academy.]
REPORTS AND PRESENTATION.RE RECEIVE A PRESENTATION OF THE GRADUATES OF THE 2024 TEAM, KYLE ACADEMY.
SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS TONIGHT.
WE HAD A FANTASTIC CLASS THIS YEAR, AS Y'ALL CAN PROBABLY TELL.
THEY WERE SUPER INVOLVED AND THEY REALLY JUST, UH, IT'S NOT PULLING UP ON HERE.
BUT THEY WERE A REALLY GREAT CLASS.
THEY HAD SO MANY STORIES TO TELL ON THEIR OWN.
THEY WERE SUPER, SUPER, JUST ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
JUST A REALLY GREAT CLASS AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO PRESENT THEM TONIGHT AS OUR GRADUATES.
UH, ALLISON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? SO WE START NAMING? ALRIGHT.
SO, UH, ALL MY TEAM KYLE GRADUATES, UH, WE'RE GONNA CALL YOUR NAME AND MISS ALLISON'S GONNA GIVE YOU YOUR CERTIFICATE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAY UP FRONT, WE WILL TAKE A GROUP PHOTO AT THE END, UNLESS YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE GROUP PHOTO, BUT, ALL RIGHT,
SO THESE GRADUATES, THEY COMPLETED A SIX WEEK COURSE THAT INVOLVED EVERYTHING FROM CITY FOUNDER'S HISTORY TO OUR ORGANIZATION, OUR INTER-JURISDICTIONAL RELATIONSHIPS, FINANCE STREETS, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS.
AND ON TOP OF THAT, THEY COMPLETED HOMEWORK, WHICH WAS THREE FIELD CREDITS THAT INVOLVED BEING IN CITY MEETINGS, THAT INVOLVED VOLUNTEERING, THAT INVOLVED ATTENDING EVENTS AND SENDING PROOF OF IT.
SO, UM, WITH NO FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE TO START ANNOUNCING OUR GRADUATES.
UM, OUR FIRST ON THE BOARD IS DANIELLE BROWN.
RYAN SANCHEZ, WOODS MARIA, SORRY.
JENNIFER EVANS, THELMA LONGORIA, AVEA REYES, BOB SPINA, ALMA MOLIERE, WHO'S ALSO ONE OF OUR, UH, STAFF THAT SIGNED UP TO TAKE THIS CLASS AS A NEW EMPLOYEE.
JAMES WATSON, JOE PETERS,
THAT IS OUR GRADUATING CLASS OF 2024 FOR THE TEAM KYLE ACADEMY.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS A HAND FOR COMPLETING THE COURSE AND GREAT JOB.
ALRIGHT, IF I CAN HAVE Y'ALL KIND OF GATHER UP OUR, OUR SHORT PEOPLE IN THE FRONT AND OUR TALLER PEOPLE IN THE BACK WILL TAKE A REALLY QUICK GROUP PHOTO.
I JUST NEED YOU AND HEATHER TO MOVE IN A LITTLE BIT, IF POSSIBLE.
I WANNA GET THE PODIUM OUTTA THE WAY.
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CONGRATULATIONS.WE ALSO HAVE SOME CAKE OUT IN THE LOBBY IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO JOIN
YOU WANNA DO A QUICK BREAK? SO PRETTY EARLY.
ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO A 10 MINUTE BREAK.
WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT EXACTLY 7 45.
THAT'LL BE AN EIGHT MINUTE BREAK.
THE TIME IS SEVEN FORTY SEVEN.
I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
[VI) Consent Agenda]
CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, UH, FOUR THROUGH SEVEN.IS THERE ANY, UH, OF THESE ITEMS THAT Y'ALL WANNA DISCUSS INDIVIDUALLY? IS THERE ANY PRESENTATIONS FOR ANY OF THEM? LIKE WE NEED TO GO OVER OR JUST NO, JUST MOTIONS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A PRO MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOUR THROUGH SEVEN.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES.
[8) Reconsideration of the vote at the May 22, 2024 City Council Meeting to Consider approval of an ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the Code of Ordinance, rezoning approximately 45.3 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services), to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development, approximately 29.9 acres ‘RS’ & approximately 15.4 acres ‘R-3-3 (apartments) for property located at 22675 IH-35 in Hays County, Texas.]
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, CONSIDERATION OF THE VOTE AT THE, UH, RECONSIDERATION OF THE VOTE AT THE MAY, UH, 22ND, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL AND ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.REZONING APPROXIMATELY 45.3 ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES TO PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, 29.9 ACRES RETAIL SERVICES, UH, 15.4 ACRES RETAIL, UH, R THREE THREE, UH, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 22,675 I 35.
UH, THIS ITEM, UH, FAILED AT THE LAST MEETING ON THREE THREE VOTE PER THE RULES OF COUNSEL.
RECONSIDERATION MAY BE BROUGHT BACK, UH, BY ANY MEMBER WHO REQUESTS IT AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING.
UH, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE BROUGHT BACK AND SO IT'S BACK BEFORE US.
BUT BEFORE WE CAN TAKE UP THE ITEM ITSELF, WE NEED TO FIRST TAKE A VOTE, UH, TO RECONSIDER.
UH, I'M ON THE, UH, SIDE OF WANTING TO RECONSIDER.
SO I WILL MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND BY MAYOR PROTI THAT WE RECONSIDER, THIS IS NOT THE VOTE ON THE ITEM, BUT JUST TO TAKE UP THE ITEM.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALRIGHT, MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
[9) [Reconsideration from 5/22/2024] (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) of the Code of Ordinance, rezoning approximately 45.3 acres of land from ‘RS’ (Retail Services), to ‘PUD’ (Planned Unit Development, approximately 29.9 acres ‘RS’ & approximately 15.4 acres ‘R-3-3 (apartments) for property located at 22675 IH-35 in Hays County, Texas. (Kyle Retail/Office, LLC - Z-23-0119) Public Hearing City Council vote failed 3-3 on motion to approve on first reading on 5/22/2024]
THE ITEM IS BACK UP BEFORE US FIRST READING, UH, CONSIDER, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53, ZONING THE CITY OF CODE OF ORDINANCES WITH THE OUTLINES DESCRIBED IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM.UH, THIS ITEM IS, UH, POSTED WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE ALREADY HAD ONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE IN RECONSIDERATION IF WE NEED TO REDO THE PUBLIC HEARING, EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T PROPERLY NOTICED FOR THIS MEETING.
SO WE DID ALREADY HAVE THE PROPERLY NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING.
WE DID, HOWEVER, PUT A NOTICE IN THE NEWSPAPER FOR THIS MEETING TO INFORM RESIDENTS WHO MAY HAVE GONE TO THE LAST MEETING THAT IT WAS GONNA BE RECONSIDERED.
UH, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW ANY OF THOSE TO SPEAK, ALTHOUGH I THINK SEVERAL PEOPLE ALREADY SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE, UH, WE WILL ALLOW, IF YOU WANNA COME AND SAY, UH, SAY YOUR PIECE AGAIN, WE'LL GO, GO AND DO IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A TECHNICAL PUBLIC HEARING, BUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY.
SO IF YOU WANNA COME AND, AND SAY YOUR PIECE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME THREE MINUTES AND GO AGAIN.
UM, SO I GUESS LIKE, MY THING IS, IT'S GONNA BE INEVITABLE.
I THINK THE WORST THING WITH POLITICS IS NOBODY CAN LIKE, AGREE TO DISAGREE.
I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BALANCE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WANT AN AM AMPLIFI AMPLIFIER IN ALL OF THESE KIND OF THINGS.
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR KYLE TO BE EVOLVE.
I COME FROM A NON EVOLVING STATE, BUT I ALSO COME FROM A STATE THAT IS WAY BETTER THAN TEXAS.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE WILDLIFE AND IT COMES TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, MY BIGGEST THING ON THIS IS DOLLAR, DOLLAR, DOLLAR SIGNS, RIGHT? THAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY IS WHAT ALL THESE MEN BEHIND ME ARE THINKING.
THERE'S STILL NO SOLUTION TO THE OWLS, TO THE ANIMALS AND THE AREA.
PEOPLE CAN LAUGH AT DINNER AND SAY, OH, SHE'S JUST THERE FOR THE ANIMALS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S THIS LAND HAS BEEN HERE.
SO I I, I WANNA HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE AS A SOLUTION FOR SOME TYPE OF EN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT.
I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALSO OPPOSING THE 80 ACRES TO, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND OUTSIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, MR. ROBERT AND ME, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE SOMEHOW SOME WAGE TRANSPORTING THOSE ANIMALS TO THAT AREA OF WILDLIFE SO WE JUST DON'T SLAUGHTER THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THIS PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE ANIMALS ARE OKAY.
WE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT NESTING SEASON, THAT'S ALL THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT.
AND THEN THEY JUST WANNA BULLDOZE IT BECAUSE THEY'RE MAKING MULTIMILLION DOLLARS AND THEY'RE GOING BACK HOME TO THEIR FAMILY WHILE EVERYBODY ON THIS ROAD STILL LIVES HERE.
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I DO OPPOSE THE HOUSING.I DO OPPOSE ALL THE TRAFFIC AND I DO OPPOSE THE WATER.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I'M WILLING TO AGREE TO DISAGREE THAT WE STILL NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE LAND AND THE ANIMALS.
AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU GUYS OUTSIDE OF YOUR BIG PAYCHECKS ALSO HAVE A HEART TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S INNOCENT AND I WROTE A BUNCH OF BIBLE VERSES THAT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GODLY AND ALL OF THAT ASPECT FOR THEM TO GO BACK AND READ THAT AS WELL.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
HEY Y'ALL, MY NAME IS JAY HUCK.
UH, I WAS HERE LAST TIME AND I SPOKE ON THIS AND I WASN'T VERY ELOQUENT LAST TIME, SO I'M GONNA TRY AGAIN.
I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW, AND ALL I'VE REALLY SEEN AROUND HERE IS A BUNCH OF SUBURBS AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO AFFORD ANY OF THOSE WHEN THEY'RE ALL $400,000.
THE THINGS I'VE HEARD FROM THE DEVELOPER SAY IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA TRY AND KEEP THESE UNDER 200, LIKE UNDER $300,000.
LIKE, YOUNG PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO LIVE HERE INSTEAD OF LEAVING AND GOING TO AUSTIN, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT WATER USE, BUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THE STUDY SHOW THAT MULTI-FAMILY UNITS USE HALF THE WATER, THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES YOU WATER IN YOUR LAWN AND WASHING YOUR CAR.
ALL THAT STUFF IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR IN A FLAT OR IN A, A TOWN HOME.
UM, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, RIGHT? SO I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS, UH, YOU KNOW, REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS AND, UH, MAYBE VOTE YES.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, MR. ETTE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME ENGAGEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER BETWEEN LAST TIME AND THIS TIME.
I DO WANNA REMIND THE COUNSEL THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ITSELF IS NOT BEFORE US.
UH, WE'RE DISCUSSING IT, BUT THE ACTUAL CONTENTS WON'T BE, UH, UH, PRESENTED BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
ASSUMING IT MOVES PAST FIRST READING UNTIL SECOND READING.
UH, AND FOR THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE LISTENING, I THINK MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL CHANGE MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RUNNING WITH FIRST READING, UH, CONTINGENT UPON APPROVAL OF SECOND READING, SO THAT WE HAVE BOTH DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF US.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GIVE A VERY SIMILAR PRESENTATION I DID LAST TIME.
SO SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THIS.
I KNOW IT'S JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO GO THROUGH.
BUT, UM, MR. ZUNIGA WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE, SO I WANT TO KIND OF TACK AGAIN, TOUCH ON THIS AS, AS THE WHOLE PROJECT ITSELF.
SO, UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, PROJECT, THIS CLICKER'S NOT WORKING.
UM, SO THIS IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT'S CONSIDERATION UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR TONIGHT.
SO WE'LL ALLOW MULTI-FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE.
UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, AGAIN, THERE'S GONNA BE AN ADDITIONAL DA REQUEST AND A THREE 80, UH, REQUEST THAT YOU'LL SEE AT A LATER DATE.
UH, THE DA IS GONNA COVER OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUILDING MATERIALS, PHASING, UTILITY CAPACITY UPGRADES, WATER, SEWER, UH, TIA IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN, UH, TELECOM MODIFICATIONS, UH, ALONG I 35.
THE THREE 80 IS GONNA FOCUS ON THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES AND THE TRIGGERS, UH, FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENT UPGRADES.
UH, AGAIN, THOSE TWO, UH, AGREEMENTS SHOULD BE FOR YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, I DID WANT TO TOUCH BASE BEFORE WE GET INTO THE, THE FULL BLOWN DISCUSSION OF THE PUD TO REMEMBER THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A RECENTLY UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, SO THIS IS, UH, WHAT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN JANUARY OF 2024, SAYS, UH, THIS AREA IS CITED AS AN URBAN MIXED USE, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, AREA FOR OUR FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPOSED AT THIS SITE TOGETHER.
UM, THIS INCLUDES MULTI-STORY COMMERCIAL HOTELS, TOWN HOMES, OFFICE APARTMENTS AGAIN, AND ADDITIONAL VERTICAL MIXED USES.
UM, SO THE LOCATION MAP, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE'RE AT.
I JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE AGAIN, EAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S TWO PARTIALS IS DESIGNED AS ONE COHESIVE UNIT.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS MENTIONED BEFORE, IT'S IN TURS NUMBER SIX.
UH, SO REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS TURS, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT 9.6 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THIS PROPERTY WILL HELP FUND THE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKING IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN, IN YOUR MIND AS WELL.
UM, AS FAR AS, UH, RETAIL SERVICES ZONING, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 29 ACRES ON THIS TRACT.
UH, 15.4 ACRES ARE LOOKING AT TRADITIONAL R THREE APARTMENTS.
THEY, AGAIN, 350 MULTIFAMILY UNITS MAX ON THE R THREE, AND THEN A MINIMUM OF 20 OR A MAXIMUM OF 39 ON PARCEL ONE.
AGAIN, COUNCIL AND P AND Z MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
THEY, THEY WANT TO ENSURE MULTIFAMILY, BUT THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME TOO MUCH, TOO EXCESSIVE OR GET TOO LITTLE.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE MINIMUM MAX ADDED.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM 150,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES, UH, AND OFFICE.
UH, AND THEN THIS PLAN HAS BEEN UPDATED TO REQUIRE 50 THOU 55,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE PHASE ONE, UH, PORTION.
UH, AS DISCUSSED LAST TIME, THE PROJECT'S GONNA ESTABLISH TWO BASE ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO IN RED YOU'LL HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL
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SERVICES, AND THEN THE ORANGE, YOU'LL HAVE THE R THREE TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, UH, AND THOSE PARCELS ARE OUTLINED.UM, SO PARCEL ONE IS WEST OF ONE 50, UH, AND THAT'S RETAIL SERVICES.
AND THEN PARCEL THREE IS THE MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH.
PARCEL TWO IS, UH, MORE COMMERCIAL, UH, TO THE SOUTH.
THE PHASING PLAN HAS BEEN UPDATED.
UM, SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT PARCELS.
I'M ALSO GONNA TALK ABOUT PHASING TONIGHT.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THAT.
PHASE ONE IS GOING TO BE PARCEL ONE AND PARCEL THREE.
SO WEST OF ONE 50 AND THE NORTHERN PART, THE MULTIFAMILY SECTION, WHICH PHASE TWO BEING THE SOUTHERN PART, EAST OF FM ONE 50.
SO HERE'S A SLIDE KIND OF LAYING OUT YOUR PHASES, UH, VERSUS YOUR PARCELS.
AND SO IF YOU GET CONFUSED, PLEASE, UH, FEEL FREE TO ASK, ASK ME TO CLARIFY.
UM, SO R ONE, PHASE ONE, OR I'M SORRY, THE RS PARCEL, UH, FOR PHASE ONE IS DESIGNED TO BE A DESTINATION DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN, RETAIL RESTAURANT, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, HOTEL AND BI SPOT OFFERINGS.
UM, THIS HUD WILL ALLOW SOME LOWER SETBACKS OF 20 FEET ZERO FOR INTERIORS.
LOT LINES, NO MINIMUM LOT SIZE.
IT ALLOWS CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT, VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE DONE RECENTLY.
AGAIN, THIS WILL INCLUDE, UH, 24 RESIDENTIAL TOWN HOMES AND 15 RESIDENTIAL FLATS.
PARCEL TWO, UM, WHICH IS, UH, PHASE TWO IS GONNA BE AN ENTERTAINMENT RETAIL HUB.
UH, THIS IS GONNA BE ADJACENT TO THE MULTIFAMILY PARCEL.
UH, AGAIN, OUTDOOR GATHERING SPACES, ADDITIONAL AMENITIES, UH, WATER FEATURES, DOG PARKS, PICNIC AREAS, UH, VERY MORE, UH, RURAL AND, AND, UH, HELPFUL TO THE CITIZENS.
UH, THIS IS NOT JUST GONNA BE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
PNZ ALSO RECOMMENDED A SLIGHT CHANGE, AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME.
UM, WE WANT THIS DEVELOPMENT TO, TO BE A VITAL PORTION OF OUR, OF OUR CITY'S ECONOMIC FUTURE.
UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR STANDARD PROHIBITED USES THAT, THAT WE SEE THAT WE WANT TO TAKE OUT.
AND THAT MAY NOT BE IDEAL FOR THIS AREA.
UM, GENERALLY CONVENIENCE STORES WITH GAS STATION ARE PROHIBITED, BUT P AND Z MADE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO ALLOW JUST A STANDALONE CONVENIENCE STORE, UM, SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, IF THEY WANTED, UH, EVERYDAY ITEMS, HOUSEHOLD ITEMS, THEY COULD GO STANDALONE.
NOT MEANING NO GAS, NO GAS, NO.
IT WOULD NEED TO BE A PART OF THE PLAN.
SO IT WOULD BE A PART OF A MULTI-STORY.
MIXED USE AREA, NOT STANDALONE LIKE A GAS STATION WITHOUT GAS.
UH, THERE COULD BE A PROPERTY WHERE IT'S PART OF AN, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THERE'S A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE KIND OF QUASI.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHERE THOSE LAYOUTS WILL GO.
UM, BUT, UH, CORRECT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE STANDALONE LIKE A GAS STATION.
IT WILL BE INCORPORATED AS PART OF THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO PARCEL THREE, AGAIN, TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY, UM, MAXIMUM 350 UNITS, OUR PARKING RATIOS AT 1.3.
UM, TYPICAL SIT BACKS, 25, FRONT 15 FROM MIKEY COURT ON THE REAR, UH, AND THEN ZERO ON INTERIOR SIDE LOT LINES.
PARKLAND DEDICATION IS A BIG COMPONENT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA DEDICATE APPROXIMATELY 13.5 ACRES, UH, FLOODPLAIN PARKLAND AS WELL AS VIBE TRAILS AND FIVE SPOTS.
UM, SO THIS EXHIBIT C WILL SATISFY ALL THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, INCLUDING PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT FEES, UH, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE PARKLAND WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE DEVELOPER AT THEIR COST, BUT WE'LL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, UH, PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
AND THEN IT'LL, UH, KIND OF GENERALLY FOLLOW OUR GENERAL PARK HOURS FOR, FOR OPERATIONS.
UH, HERE'S AN IMAGE OF KIND OF SHOWING THE TRAILS.
WE HAVE A 10 FOOT USE PATH ALONG, UH, I 35.
UM, THEN VIBE TRAILS IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA.
THIS, UH, THE, THE VERY DENSELY WOODED AREA.
AGAIN, THAT AREA IS KIND OF SLATED TO BE LEFT ALONE SO THAT THAT CAN BE A NATURAL TRAIL FLOODPLAIN.
UM, AND, AND NOT TOO MUCH DISTURBANCE IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
UH, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A VIBE SPOT, UM, SHOWING WHERE THAT WILL BE WITHIN THE PHASE ONE ON THE COMMERCIAL SECTION.
AND THEN THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT, THAT AREA MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND I'LL DISCUSS THE VIBE SPOT A LITTLE BIT LATER WHEN WE TALK CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES AND CHANGES THAT THAT HAD COME OUT FROM THE LAST MEETING.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT'S GONNA FOCUS MORE ON THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
UM, IT'S GONNA FOCUS ON BUILDING MATERIALS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
WHAT THAT ALLOTMENT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ASKING FOR X AMOUNT OF L LUS 500, UM, LITTLE SHOT, A LITTLE OVER 500, WHICH IS WHAT HAS BEEN MODELED FOR THIS PARCEL AS PART OF OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER MODEL.
SO WE'RE IN LINE WITH WHAT THIS PLANT, WHAT THIS PROPERTY'S BEEN PLANNED FOR THE ENTIRE TIME.
UM, AND THEN IT'S GONNA FOCUS ON THOSE TEXT STOCK IMPROVEMENTS WHEN THEY'RE REQUIRED AND WHEN PEC UPGRADES AND, UH, RELOCATION OF SOME OF THOSE TELECOMS IS GONNA BE TAKING PLACE AS WELL.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UH, AS FAR AS BUILDING MATERIALS GO, THEY'RE LOOKING AT 60% MASONRY STONE STUCCO.
UH, 40% IS REQUIRED TO BE BRICK.
UM, AND THEN THE REST CAN BE KIND OF A MIXTURE OF THOSE, EITHER GLAZING WINDOW TREATMENTS, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND THAT'S GONNA FOCUS AGAIN ON SETBACKS.
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AND LAND USES OUTLINED IN THE PO, OH, SORRY.UM, SOME OF THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS.
THIS IS A PROPOSED WATER TOWER.
THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ELECTRONIC SIGN BILLBOARD THAT MAY BE USED TO ADVERTISE, UM, LOCAL EVENTS THAT'LL BE HAPPENING AT THE, AT THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE NEXT FEW IMAGES, UH, FOCUS MOSTLY ON THE RETAIL COMPONENTS OF WHAT THESE AREAS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, BOB SPOT RETAIL, UH, SOME OF THE ART THAT'S PROJECTED TO BE IN THE RETAIL SECTION.
AND THEN THERE'S, UH, THEIR, THEIR SIGNED PACKAGE, WHICH IS UNIQUE TO, TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO AT THE LAST MEETING ON MAY 22ND, UM, COUNSEL HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS OR REQUESTS THAT THAT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE MEETING.
UM, AND THAT THEY WERE WANTING TO ENSURE TIMELY DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
AGAIN, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AND THOSE OTHER AMENITIES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE DEVELOPER MADE SEVERAL ACCOMMODATIONS KIND OF RESPONDING TO EACH OF COUNCIL'S REQUESTS.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE KIND OF INDIVIDUALLY RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE FIRST REQUEST WAS INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FEET OF THE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTED IN PHASE ONE.
I BELIEVE WE WERE SITTING AT 35,000.
THAT'S BEEN INCREASED TO 55,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND AGAIN, PHASE ONE, AND THIS WILL BE MOVED TO PARCEL ONE.
SO ORIGINALLY THEY WERE KIND OF GONNA FOCUS ON THE MULTIFAMILY ON THE EAST SIDE AND THAT PHASE TWO, AND THEY'RE SHIFTING THAT OVER TO PARCEL ONE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S HOW THEY KIND OF RESTRUCTURED A PARCEL.
ONE IS NOW PHASE ONE, THAT'LL BE THE, THE MAIN, UH, DRIVER.
ALL PHASE ONE AMENITIES WILL BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO PAYMENT OF ANY INCENTIVES AS PART OF THE THREE 80 AGREEMENT.
UM, THESE ARE TENTATIVE TIMELINES.
PHASE ONE COMPLETION DECEMBER 27 WITH PHASE TWO AND DECEMBER OF 2028.
THE NEXT REQUEST WAS REQUIRE COMMERCIAL ASPECTS ON PARCEL ONE BEFORE THE MULTIFAMILY COULD ISSUE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT CAME FORWARD AND SAID, OKAY, PARCEL ONE IS PHASE ONE.
UM, THEY CANNOT GET A CO FOR ANY OF THE MULTIFAMILY UNTIL THAT 55,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL IS CONSTRUCTED, OR THE PARKING GARAGE IS CONSTRUCTED.
SO EITHER ONE CAN BE DONE FIRST BEFORE THEY CAN GET THOSE CBOS.
UM, THIS IS GONNA GUARANTEE THAT CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE OR THE, OR THE PARKING GARAGE IS DONE BEFORE THE MULTIFAMILY IS DONE.
SO, UM, IT WON'T JUST BE A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT.
WE'RE GONNA GET SOME COMMERCIAL
JASON, ON THAT POINT, IS IT POSSIBLE, WILL IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO SURFACE PARK AND FOREGO THE PARKING GARAGE BASED ON THE P DESIGN? WILL THEY BE FORCED TO, TO DO IT? SO IT'S NOT A SITUATION WHERE THEY COULD SAY, WELL, I'M GONNA SKIP THE PARKING GARAGE, I'LL PUT THE RETAIL IN, BUT I'M GONNA SURFACE PARK IT AND THEN THEN I GET MY MULTIFAMILY.
UM, SO YES, THEY COULD SURFACE PARK IT FOR THE, FOR THE INTERIM AND, AND BUILD THE 55,000 SQUARE FEET, THEN GET THEIR MULTIFAMILY.
HOWEVER, THE THREE 80 IS STRUCTURED THAT THE PARKING GARAGE HAS TO BE DONE IN PHASE ONE.
SO THEY WOULDN'T GET ANY INCENTIVES UN UNTIL THAT IS DONE.
SO FINANCIALLY IT MAKES SENSE THAT THEY COMPLETE THOSE BEFORE, UH, BEFORE MOVING ON, OR AGAIN, THERE'S NO ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THEM AT THAT POINT.
UM, SO YES, UH, THEY CAN GET A MULTI-FAMILY BEFORE THE PARKING GARAGE IS DONE.
THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN SURFACE PARK UP TO A POINT, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH COMMERCIAL IS DONE AT THAT POINT, IT MAY TRIGGER THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT PARKING GARAGE BASED ON PARKING RATIOS.
CAN, CAN, BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY, CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE ON THAT SITUATION? I, I THINK THE INTENT WAS TO NOT DO THAT.
AND SO I THINK IF WE WANT TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT, THAT THAT'S A CONDITION THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SURFACE PARK IT.
THAT IT'S, THE INTENT IS THAT YOU HAVE THE 55,000 COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IN OR THE PARKING GARAGE THAT NOT THAT YOU'RE GONNA JUST PUT AND, AND SOLVE IT INSTEAD OF, OR YEAH, THAT, THAT'S TOTALLY YOUR DISCRETION COUNSEL.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT WITHOUT, UM, REASON THAT WE MAKE THAT REQUEST.
WE'VE HAD DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS DANGLE, UM, GARAGES AND SAY THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING, BUT REALLY THEY'RE GONNA SURFACE PARK IT AND MAYBE LONG DOWN THE ROAD IN SOME FUTURE PHASE, THEY MIGHT PUT THE GARAGE IN.
THE INCENTIVE IS NEGOTIATING FOR THE GARAGE.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE WILL ALLOW FOR THE GARAGE TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND THE RETAIL TO BE CONSTRUCTED CONCURRENTLY, BUT NOT LONG, LONG AFTER THE APARTMENTS ARE, ARE PUT IN.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT WORD TO AND JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I STILL SEE THAT AS A WAY FOR THE, THE MULTIFAMILY TO GO FORWARD WITHOUT THE LION'S SHARE OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE NEGOTIATING FORWARD BEING REALIZED.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE? UM, SO AGAIN, UH, COMMERCIAL ASPECTS ON PARCEL ONE, UH, BEFORE CM OF THE MULTIFAMILY.
UM, AND YOU MADE THE NOTE THAT THEY WANT TO, YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE, THE GARAGE AND THE TIMING.
UM, THE NEXT REQUEST WAS BE ALLOWED, OR, OR THE
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OTHER OPTION IS TO AMEND THE PUT DOCUMENT SIMILAR TO THE LAKE PARK DISTRICT THAT WE JUST DID.RICK SHELDON'S, UH, PROJECT THAT THAT PROJECT, THE, THE DENSITY AND THE WAY THE PUT IS, UH, STRUCTURED JUST DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SURFACE PARKING.
MEANING IF THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, YOU MUST BUILD THE GARAGE BECAUSE THE, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACE IN SPACES IN THE PUD DOCUMENT THAT BASICALLY THE GARAGE IS A PART OF THE MASTER PLANNING AND YOU HAVE TO PHASE THAT IN.
YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT, SO EITHER WAY, AMENDING THE P DOCUMENT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAKE PARK DISTRICT OR REQUIRING THE CO UH, THE, THE COMPLETION OF THE GARAGE AND 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL BEFORE THE CO ON THE MULTIFAMILY, EITHER ONE OF THOSE WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT.
BUT I THINK, I THINK WE'RE HALFWAY THERE.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE QUITE GOTTEN THE, THE FULL HOOK IN.
UM, I TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROHIBITED USE LIST.
UM, UH, AGAIN, WE WANNA ALLOW THE CONVENIENCE STORE, UM, PROVIDE GROCERIES DAILY, UH, SUPPLIES FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE JUST DON'T WANT A GAS STATION.
SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE AGREED TO DO THAT.
UM, THEY'VE AMENDED THAT, THAT PUD UH, DOCUMENT, AGAIN, IT, IT ENSURES THAT THAT GROCERIES AND NECESSITIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ON OUR STREETS TRAVELING TO OTHER AREAS IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
UM, THE NEXT REQUEST WAS A, A MINIMUM IN ADDITION TO THE MAXIMUM OF THE NUMBER OF 39 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
WE PUT THE MAXIMUM IN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT A GLUTTONY OF, OF APARTMENTS OR FLATS ON THAT PROJECT.
UM, BUT WE ADDED THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF 20, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GET SOME, UH, AGAIN, THIS WILL ENSURE THAT PARCEL ONE COMPLIES WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AGAIN, UH, THIS CALLS OUT AS AN URBAN MIXED USE, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE BOTH THOSE USES ON THERE, UH, TO BE IN LINE WITH OUR, OUR COMP PLAN.
UM, THE NEXT REQUEST WAS REQUIRED COMPLETION OF THE BOB TRAIL PRIOR TO CO ON THE MULTIFAMILY PARCEL.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT ADDED LANGUAGE SAYING THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL BUILD THE BOB TRAIL, UM, PRIOR TO GETTING ANY COS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY.
AGAIN, THIS WILL PROVIDE RESIDENTS, UH, UH, WITH PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO THE ACCESS TO THE PARKLAND AND ALONG WITH THE OTHER RESIDENTS OF THE AREA.
NEXT REQUEST WAS THE VIBE SPOT.
UM, UH, COUNSEL HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THAT BEING BUILT, UH, TOWARDS THE END.
SO THEY WANTED THE, YOU WANTED THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL TO KIND OF BE TIED TO THAT VIBE SPOT.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO, TO SAY THEY WILL BUILD THE VIBE SPOT, UH, BEFORE THE LAST CEO FOR THE ADJACENT RETAIL BUILDINGS.
SO ALL THE, THE BUILDINGS IMMEDIATELY AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT THE ONES FURTHER TO THE SOUTH OR TO THE NORTH, BUT ALL THOSE IMMEDIATE IN THE VIS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.
AND I, I WILL ADD THAT I THINK THAT'S, THOSE ELEMENTS ARE ALL GOOD.
AND THE, THE MODEL, I KNOW IT WAS SAID EARLIER ABOUT NEW BRAUNFELS AND OTHERS, BUT THE MODEL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS AFTER IS, COMES FROM CEDAR PARK.
SO CEDAR PARK PUT TOGETHER A MIXED USE PROJECT VERY SIMILAR TO THE STRUCTURE HERE, BUT WHAT CEDAR PARK AND IT'S CLOSE TO THEIR DOWNTOWN WAS HIGHLY AMENITIZED.
THERE'S A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY AS WELL, BUT THEY MADE SURE THAT THE, THE AMENITIES AND THE RETAIL WERE PART OF THE FIRST PHASE.
SO IT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS DOING FIRST, IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THEIR IHEART CEDAR PARK DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
UH, RETAIL COMES FIRST, AMENITIES COMES FIRST, AND THEN WITH THAT, THE DEVELOPER CAN BUILD OUT THE MULTIFAMILY AT THEIR, AT THEIR LEISURE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT CEDAR PARK NEGOTIATED FOR.
UM, AND WE HAD NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL BEFORE THAT.
BUT WE, WE THINK THAT THAT'S THE MODEL THAT THAT REALLY GETS EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WANT.
UM, I THINK, UH, ANOTHER CONCERN, UH, COUNCIL HAD WAS, UH, UH, ADDING LANGUAGE TO SHOWING A COMMITMENT TO WATER AND ELECTRIC CONSERVATION.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WATER'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE, UH, NOT JUST FOR KYLE, BUT FOR, FOR THE ENTIRE SOUTH TEXAS REGION.
SO, UM, THEY DID ADD A SECTION DEDICATED TO WATER AND ELECTRIC, UH, CONSERVATION.
AGAIN, THIS, THIS KIND OF NEW ADDED LANGUAGE IS GONNA ENSURE THAT THEY'RE IN, IN LINE WITH OUR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLANS, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH OUR DARK SKY ORDINANCE, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, HELP LIMIT LIGHT POLLUTION.
A COUPLE OF THE OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE IN THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE THEIR MULTIFAMILY TO DO AC CONDENSATION, UH, AND BRAIN WATER COLLECTION TO HELP SERVICE, UH, AND OFFSET THOSE WATER DEMANDS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY SECTION.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO PROMISING TO, UH, OR AGREEING TO INSTALL PURPLE PIPE.
UM, SO THAT IF WE EVER MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR REUSE PROGRAM, THAT THIS, THIS SITE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO, TO BE UTILIZED AS PART OF THAT.
SO, UH, PRETTY BIG CHANGES ADDED THERE AT THE END OF THAT.
ALRIGHT, I WANNA JUMP IN ON THAT SECTION JUST FOR A SECOND.
SO, I THINK WHAT'S GIVEN THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED MANY, MANY TIMES, IT'S WHAT'S GIVING US HEARTBURN.
OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAN CONSERVES WATER AS A WHOLE, UM, WHICH IS WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED.
BUT THAT VERY SORT OF BRIGHT, SHINY OBJECT, PADDLE BOARDING WATER FEATURE, I THINK POTENTIALLY THAT WAS CONCEIVED BEFORE WE STARTED RECOGNIZING THE NEW
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FUTURE OF THE WHOLE REGION STRUGGLING WITH SUBSTANTIAL DROUGHTS.SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE OPTICS OF THE WAY THAT PROJECT, THAT PARTICULAR FEATURE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS INTENDED TO BE A RETENTION POND OF SOME KIND THAT YOU'RE ADDING IN.
BUT IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S TRULY AN AMENITY, IT'S ACTUALLY, I WOULD SAY IT'S, IT'S POLITICALLY IN PARTICULAR DRAGGING THE PROJECT DOWN.
SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS, NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD SUGGEST LANGUAGE LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AND YOUR PHASING SAYS IT'S NOT COMING IN UNTIL 2028, UH, ON THIS PHASE TWO.
SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S FAR IN ADVANCE.
WE HAVE MAJOR WATER PROJECTS ANTICIPATED TO COME ONLINE BEFORE THAT.
BUT WE COULD ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT YOU COULDN'T FILL THAT WATER FEATURE UNTIL WE HAD RECEIVED OUR, OUR WATER AND WE WERE NO LONGER IN ANY DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVER.
THAT'D BE ONE WAY, BUT THAT'S REALLY SORT OF LIKE WE'RE DEVALUING THE THING YOU'RE TRYING TO USE TO CREATE VALUE.
AND SO NOBODY'S REALLY WINNING.
TO ME THE SOLUTION IS TO SCRAP THE IDEA OF A MAJOR POTABLE WATER FEATURE LIKE THIS THAT USES MANY GALLS JUST FOR KAYAKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE WE FOLKS CAN GO ELSEWHERE AND, AND REDESIGN THAT AS A NEW AMENITY THAT MAYBE FLIPS THE CONVERSATION AND IS ACTUALLY A MODEL FOR COME OVER HERE AND ENJOY YOURSELF AND LOOK HOW LITTLE WATER WE HAVE TO USE IN ORDER TO SHADE AND PLANTINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU'D FIND SUCH A, A BETTER RESPONSE.
IT JUST, IT'S A LIGHTNING ROD FOR US.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE LOVE, WE, WE WANT TO GET AS CLOSE TO WATER AS WE CAN, IT'S SCORCHING HOT OUTSIDE THAT PARTICULAR WAY OF DELIVERING WATER AS AN AMENITY IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH A NEW WAY BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, I THINK YOU'D FIND A LOT OF HELP WITH THAT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ON, ON THAT ISSUE IS THAT THAT WHOLE AREA SLOPES DOWN TO THAT WATER FIXTURE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DRAIN OFF DRAINING A LOT.
AND IF YOU MAKE IT NON POTABLE, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE GOING IN THE WATER, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TCEQ APPROVAL OF THAT POND FOR PEOPLE TO BE IN IT, UM, THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY CHANNEL THAT WATER DOWN TO THAT RETENTION AREA.
AND THEN THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE CONCERN PERHAPS ABOUT FLOODING, THEN CHANNELING IT ON OUT BECAUSE THAT AREA GOES DOWN TO LAKE KYLE, THAT GULLY BEHIND YOUR PROPERTY, UM, GOES DOWN TO LAKE KYLE.
SO I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING, MAYBE NOT POTABLE, UH, WHERE SWIMMING COULD BE ALLOWED, BUT A WATER FEATURE THAT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THAT EXISTING WATER FLOW WITH MAYBE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL FROM OTHER, FROM OUR OTHER SOURCES WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE CHANGING THE LANGUAGE.
INSTEAD OF IT SAYING THIS GREAT FEATURE THAT WE'LL USE POTABLE, IT'S, THERE WILL BE A FEATURE AND IT SHALL NOT USE POTABLE WATER.
I THINK THAT'S MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POND, RIGHT? OKAY.
SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE, ARE WE BASICALLY ELIMINATING THAT OR IS IT JUST KEEPING IT THERE BUT NOT USING THE WATER TO REFILL IT ON THAT? 'CAUSE I'VE TAKEN FEW PHOTOS OF THE AREA AND I'VE DRIVEN OUT THERE, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, MS. HARRIS, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THERE IS A CREEK THAT'S BEHIND THERE.
SO IS IT, ARE WE IN THE SAME SPOT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME AREA.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE SAME CREEK.
IT FLOWS STRAIGHT ACROSS LAYMAN INTO THE NEW LAKE KYLE, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO HANDLE A LOT MORE FLOOD WATER THAN WE'RE EVEN PUTTING IN NOW.
IT JUST FEEDS RIGHT INTO THE MASSIVE LAKE KYLE.
SO THE GOAL SHOULD BE TO GET THE WATER OFF THE PROPERTY AND INTO LAKE KYLE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
MAYOR COUNCIL, IF I COULD, I, I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION WITH A DEVELOPER AND I THINK IT'S BEEN DESIGNED AS TO BE AN AMENITY THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE ATTRACTIVE, BUT I THINK THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS POTENTIALLY.
AND I THINK MR. DALEY COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THAT IN A MOMENT ABOUT SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT, UH, COULD BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR THAT AMENITY.
YOU, YOU COULD FLIP IT ON ITS HEAD, MAKE IT BE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO USE, UH, WATER.
AND YOU, YOU'RE WELCOME TO STEP UP.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, JASON'S LIKE, HE'S LIKE, GET ME OFF THE HOT SEAT.
UM, YEAH, SO JUST QUICKLY ON THAT, AND I WANT STATE YOUR NAME.
I'M GONNA TODD DALEY, I'M SORRY.
UM, AND I WANT TO INTRODUCE ERPI.
SHE IS A MY PROJECT MANAGER THAT'S HELPED ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO BRING HER UP TODAY 'CAUSE SHE DOES SOMETIMES A BETTER JOB OF PRESENTING SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES THAN I DO.
UM, BUT AS BRIAN MENTIONED, UM, AND THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, BRIAN FOR HAVING US BACK UP.
THE IDEA WAS TO BUILD ALL THESE AMENITIES BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST HAD THIS SHOWING IN DECEMBER, WE THOUGHT THAT THIS IS WHAT THE CITY WANTED.
AND THIS IS, WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE BEST SHOW POSSIBLE THAT WE THOUGHT THE CITY WOULD BE BEHIND.
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THESE WATER FEATURES ARE NOT NECESSARY.I'VE GOT OUR CIVIL ENGINEER HERE, CARRIE, THE LAND PLANNER, GARY, UM, ANOTHER ATTORNEY THAT HELPS PUT ALL THESE PUDS AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND EVERYTHING TOGETHER IS HERE AS WELL.
SO THE IDEA IS WE DON'T NEED THESE WATER FEATURES.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE STUDY DONE THAT SAYS WE DON'T NEED ANY OF THIS.
SO AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TURN THESE WATER FEATURES IF THAT'S WHAT THE CITY WANTS, COUNCIL WANTS, THEN THESE CAN TURN BECOME NATURAL PARKLANDS.
I DON'T REALLY CARE TO DISTURB 'EM.
I'D RATHER HAVE NATURAL, IT DOESN'T COST ME ANYTHING.
IT'S NOT GONNA HELP OR HURT MY RENTAL RATES AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE WE CAN DO DIFFERENT THINGS TO MAKE IT LOOK ATTRACTIVE, WHETHER IT'S SWING SETS AND PARK BENCHES OR WHATEVER.
SO, I MEAN, THAT WHOLE POND COULD TURN INTO BE NOTHING BUT A NATURAL PARK.
IS THAT POND IN YOUR PRO FORMA FOR REIMBURSEMENT? YES.
SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'D BE WILLING TO REDUCE THE INCENTIVE.
I'M, I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT YOU DO THAT BECAUSE WHAT I WANT THAT VISION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM.
BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A KIND OF A, A POISON THAT'S GONE WITH THAT.
WHICH IS A GOOD IDEA ABOUT A GREAT POTABLE WATER, UH, WATER FEATURES BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT THAT.
BUT THE, THE LANDSCAPE HAS CHANGED.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN NEGOTIATING THE STEEL? HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THAT PROPERTY, TODD? THREE YEAR.
SO IT'S CHANGED A LOT IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
SO WE JUST NEED FLEXIBILITY AND FORGIVENESS.
IF WE ARE THE ONES OR STAFF IS THE ONE THAT LED YOU TO BELIEVE THAT THE KAYAKING, PADDLE BOARDING EXPERIENCE WAS THE RIGHT AMENITY.
BUT IF I'M NOT SAYING DEAM, AMENITIZE AND LOWER THE QUALITY OF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, WHAT I'M SAYING IS REPLACE SOMETHING THAT HAS A BAD OPTIC WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS AN EVEN BETTER OPTIC, SOMETHING THAT'S VALUABLE TO THE PEDESTRIANS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS AND THE SHOPPERS THAT WE'RE PROUD OF.
NOT JUST TURN IT INTO GREENFIELD, WHICH IS NOT HELPFUL REALLY TO ANYONE.
IT'S JUST UN MOWED, UNKEMPT DETENTION PODS, WHICH DON'T LOOK THAT GREAT.
AND SO BURPY, INTRODUCE YOURSELF A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE.
UM, YEAH, SO DO WE WANT JASON TO FINISH? SORRY.
HE'LL, HE'LL STEP BACK UP, GO, LET'S STAY RIGHT HERE IN THIS WATER FEATURE CONVERSATION.
UM, YES, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY FROM THE BEGINNING.
THIS PROJECT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE WE'RE HERE, WE'RE LISTENING TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
SO WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE CARE.
SO WE WILL DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THIS ANONYMITY TO WORK WITH WHAT THE GEOGRAPHY AND JUST OUR CONSTRAINTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE CARE ABOUT KYLE.
SO WE ARE WILLING TO DO THE WATER FEATURE AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THAT'S WHAT SPEAKS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DO CARE CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
SO THIS IS JUST TO THAT RIGHT THERE.
IT'S LIKE A BIG PLUS FOR ME MOVING A LITTLE THE NEEDLE.
BUT WHAT I'M THINKING IS, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SOME SORT OF DESIGN PERSON, UM, THAT MAYBE WE CAN USE SOME OF THOSE RECLAIMED SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING A WATER COLLECTION.
AND SINCE THE WATER, IT'S ALREADY GOING THAT WAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY MAYBE CONSIDERING DOING A COMMUNITY GARDEN OPEN TO THE CITY OF KYLE THAT WILL HELP WITH THE PRESERVATION OF THE ECOSYSTEM FOR ALL OF THE WILDLIFE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT THERE.
WHICH ADDRESSES SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WAS BRINGING FORWARD.
SHE'S SO CARRIE'S OUR CIVIL ENGINEER AND SO THIS IS WHERE IT'S OUT OF MY REALM.
I I SHE KNOWS HOW TO CAPTURE WATER.
REVEGETATE IT AND DO, HI, I AM CARRIE BRESLER.
I'M A PROJECT MANAGER AT TDI ENGINEERS.
WE'RE THE CIVIL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT ON THE PROJECT.
AND UM, THERE'S KIND OF A LOT OF THINGS TO ADDRESS HERE, BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE DRAINAGE AND THERE WE'RE THE PROJECT, BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THE FLOODPLAIN, THE CREEK THAT GOES TO LAKE KYLE, IT'S UNLIKELY TO NEED FULL DETENTION AS MUCH ATTENTION AS, AS ANOTHER SITE MIGHT NEED.
UM, AND SO THERE IS WATER THAT WE'LL BE RUNNING OFF THAT WE COULD WORK WITH TO DO SOME KIND OF NATURAL FEATURE.
THE PARKLAND IS WHERE MOST OF THE TREES ARE ON THE SITE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE NOTICED ON THE AERIAL, BUT SO THE, THE UPLANDS IS WHERE MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS, AND THAT'S BEEN MOWED AND USED OVER OVER TIME.
AND SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF TREES THERE.
SO THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FINAL DESIGN.
BUT RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE.
WE DON'T KNOW THE VIBE TRAIL IS ALIGNED ON THE MAP.
WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT, UM, ALIGNMENT FOR INSTANCE.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD BRING BACK BY NEXT READING, BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY FLIP THE AMENITY
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ON ITS HEAD AND DO SOMETHING WITH STORM WATER.DO SOMETHING WITH COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
I MEAN, THIS IS, SURE, I MEAN THIS GOES BACK TO, SO GARY'S OUR LAND PLANNER THAT'S HELPED PUT THIS WHOLE PLAN TOGETHER FOR US OVER THE YEARS.
SO MY QUESTION NEXT WILL BE IF WE ARE NOT USING THE WATER FEATURE ANYMORE AND WE ARE THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, THEN WILL THAT BE ABLE TO BE MOVED TO PHASE ONE? SO, I MEAN, THAT'S A HARD ANSWER.
UM, I'M STILL COME ON UP HERE, BUT, UM, SO I'M STILL AFTER THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING SAYING, I MEAN I'VE FLIPPED PHASE PHASE ONE TO PHASE TWO AND NOW I'M BACK ON PHASE ONE.
AND THE IDEA I THOUGHT WAS THAT EVERYBODY WANTED ME TO FOCUS ON THE 35 1 50 WEST SIDE CORRIDOR FIRST.
WE'RE TRYING TO, I THINK THE GOAL IN HERE IS TO TRY TO WORK WITH YOU.
LIKE I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF POSTPONING OR SOMETHING LIKE TO GIVE YOU TIME TO DO SOME SORT OF TABLING OF THE PHASES OR, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO, TO REDO THE LANGUAGE.
YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CHANGE THE, UH, THE EXHIBITS, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND YOU CAN POINT A, A, A FEATURE OR AN AMENITY LIKE THIS, BUT THEN JUST ADD THAT IT WON'T HAVE POTABLE WATER AND IT CAN'T, SHALL NOT HAVE POTABLE WATER, WHICH GIVES YOU SOME TIME.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DESIGN THIS MULTI-YEAR INTO THE FUTURE POTENTIAL AMENITY.
BUT YOU NEED TO DESCRIBE IT SUFFICIENT THAT WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET IN EXCHANGE FOR THE INCENTIVE.
DR. HARRIS, ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES TO DOING IT THAT WAY IS THAT IT ALSO ENHANCES THE WILDLIFE BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, MOST OF THE WILDLIFE IS TO THAT SIDE OF YOUR D YOUR PARCEL.
AND IF YOU DO A NATURAL FILLED POND, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DUCKS AND WATERFOWL AND, UM, UH, ACCESS FOR THE BIRDS TO WATER.
SO IT WILL ACTUALLY ENHANCE THE WA THE WILDLIFE IN THAT AREA, UM, WHICH WOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING.
UM, JUST REALLY QUICK, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS IN REGARDS TO THE, TO THE FACING, UM, WE DID HAVE THIS POND IN PHASE ONE, BUT AFTER LISTENING TO YOU GUYS', YOU KNOW, UM, REQUESTS, WE HAVE CHANGED IT TO PHASE TWO.
AND THAT HELPS BECAUSE THE WATER THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT RECEIVE WHENEVER THAT HAPPENS.
SO THAT WILL ALSO BE HELPFUL FOR THAT.
AND THEN THAT'LL GIVE US MORE TIME TO KIND OF JUST STUDY THE AREA WHILE WE WORK ON THE OTHER CASE.
I'M STILL PERSONALLY VERY GOOD WITH THAT.
AND I, I WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT OUR POTABLE, OUR, OUR PURPLE PIPE WATER WILL BE POTABLE WATER ESSENTIALLY FAIRLY SOON, ALMOST IN TIME WITH THEIR LET'S PROJECT.
MAYBE LET'S, LET'S GET STAFFED TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE THAT'S A RELEVANT QUESTION.
IF WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PUT IN THE PURPLE PIPE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY AT THE PLANT.
WE'VE BEEN MAKING THAT CONVERSION, WE'RE DOING PURPLE PIPE ACROSS ONE 50, BUT WE'RE STILL AT WATER LEAF WITH OUR PURPLE PIPE.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE BROUGHT IT UP ONE 50.
SO IS IT IN THE CIP, UM, IS IT WORTH US ASKING FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PUT THIS IN AND POTENTIALLY EVEN MAKING IT A PART OF AN INCENTIVIZED PROJECT? IF WE DON'T HAVE INTENTION OF IMMEDIATELY PUTTING A CIP TOGETHER FOR THAT RECLAIMED WATER? WE, WE DON'T HAVE AN INTENTION OF PUT THAT AT THAT AREA.
WE'RE STILL EVALUATING THAT STV IS DOING OUR WATER MASTER PLAN.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS THAT THE PURPLE PIPE SYSTEM HAS A PLACE, SOME, SOME OF IT WILL BE, UH, IMPORTANT TO HAVE.
WE'VE HAD, UH, THE GOLF COURSE AND UP INTO THE SPORTSPLEX AREA THAT WE'VE ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THAT COULD BE HIGHER WATER USERS AND IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
BUT BUILDING OUT, UH, POTENTIALLY $160 MILLION PIPE SYSTEM TO THE REST OF THE CITY MAY NOT MAKE THE MOST SENSE, GIVEN THAT IT'S ONLY ABOUT 4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF WATER.
SO WE HAVE MANY OTHER OPTIONS TO LOOK AT, TO SEE IS THAT THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY APPROACH TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT STV HAS BEEN HIRED TO DO.
UM, OUR INITIAL, UH, UH, UNDERSTANDING AND OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THIS IS THAT IT PROBABLY DOES NOT MAKE MO THE MOST SENSE TO DO THAT.
THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE INVESTING THAT KIND OF MONEY IN PURPLE PIPE.
BUT I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE OFFSET OF WHAT THE OTHER PLAN IS JUST YET.
COULD IT INVOLVE ADDITIONAL WATER SOURCES? IF YOU THINK ABOUT 4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, HOW YOU COULD ACTUALLY PROCURE THAT WATER, BRING THAT INTO THE CITY, AND WHAT WOULD THE COST OF THAT BE VERSUS THIS OTHER ALTERNATIVE? DO YOU WANNA LOOK AT INDIRECT OR DIRECT POTABLE? SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS, UM, BUT I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAT'S GONNA BE AT THAT PROJECT.
SO LET ME TRANSLATE THAT FOR YOU TODD.
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UH, AND WE HAVE SOME PURPLE PIPE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT NOT VERY MUCH.WE'VE RECENTLY RECEIVED GRANTS TO, TO DEVELOP OUT A RECLAIMED WATER MASTER PLAN.
SO THE, THE REASON THE STAFF'S ASKING THAT OF YOU IS BECAUSE THAT'S A PART OF OUR LONG-TERM PLAN.
HOWEVER, IF WE WERE TO SAY, ALRIGHT, WELL, INSTEAD OF REUSING THE WATER AND SENDING IT BACK UP THROUGH A SEPARATE PIPE, WE WERE TO COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT WATER AND TREAT, RETREAT IT AND SEND IT BACK THROUGH THE SAME PIPES, THEN WE'VE ASKED YOU TO PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL JUST NEVER BE USED.
AND YOU'RE IN THE CROSSROADS OF A CITY TRYING TO FIND OUT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION JUST YET.
SO IT'S ANOTHER FACTOR TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE DON'T WANT YOU TO USE POTABLE WATER UNLESS WE'VE GOTTEN SO GOOD AT OUR WATER SYSTEM THAT WE'RE TAKING POTABLE WATER THAT'S BEING FLUSHED BACK INTO THE SYSTEM, RE REUSING IT AND SENDING IT BACK UP EFFECTIVELY ALLOWING FOR OUR WATER SUPPLY TO BE VERY SUFFICIENT.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT YET.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU TO DO.
I'D LIKE TO GET STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO BACK TO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE PLANNING STAGES IN THE NEXT SIX TO 12 MONTHS AND WE'RE GETTING EVERYTHING STARTED RAMPED UP AND, AND WE ALL COME TO THESE CONCLUSIONS WITH OUR, UM, ENVIRONMENTALIST AND, AND OUR LANDSCAPERS AND OUR, ALL OUR ENGINEERS THAT KNOW HOW TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS.
BECAUSE I MEAN, I DON'T, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT JUST MY BREAD AND BUTTER, RIGHT? I I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CONCEPTUAL.
I JUST KNOW TO HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE POSSIBLE TO PUT THE TEAM TOGETHER TO DO THE RIGHT PROJECT.
AND THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UM, BACK TO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THIS, UM, AREA THAT'S UNDISTURBED.
I MEAN, PERSONALLY, AND BRIAN AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, I DON'T WANNA JUST DISTURB ANY OF IT.
IF THERE'S OWLS AND THERE'S BIRDS AND THERE'S, UM, OTHER WILDLIFE, THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT TO DO.
I MEAN, THE REASON WE PUT A A TRAIL THROUGH THERE BY TRAIL IS TO, TO CONNECTIVITY TO THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE DESIGN OF THE WHOLE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT AND THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO I, YOU KNOW, THE LESS WE DISTURBED, THE BETTER.
AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THE LESS WE DISTURBED, THE LESS I HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
I MEAN, THE IDEA ORIGINALLY WAS LET'S CLEAN IT ALL UP, BUT IF THE CITY WANTS US TO LEAVE IT MORE NATURAL, THEN SO BE IT.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, A PLAUSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
I I THINK THIS LANGUAGE, THIS DISCUSSION CAN BE CODIFIED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AMY, DON'T YOU, YOU THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE? 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE ANSWERS.
BUT THAT SPEAKS TO VARIOUS SCENARIOS LEGALLY AND SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA USE POTABLE WATER UNLESS SUCH A TIME AS THE CITY GRANTS AN EXCEPTION TO USE POTABLE WATER THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO USE PURPLE PIPE TO RECLAIM IT.
UNLESS THE CITY, UH, GIVES THEM AN EXEMPTION BECAUSE OF CHANGE OF MASTER PLAN.
AND IF THEY, IF THEY BUILD OUT THE, IF THEY LEAVE IT NATURAL, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM.
LIKE, THOSE THINGS CAN ALL BE, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT ALL SPELLED OUT ON THESE VERY SMALL ISSUES RELATIVE TO THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE WHOLE PROJECT.
NO, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO SPELL OUT IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SORT OF PARK AMENITY THERE, WHETHER IT'S A WATER FEATURE OR A NATURAL GREEN SPACE.
AND THEN WE CAN LEAVE THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN FIND SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THERE FOR DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THAT PART.
THAT, THAT WAS THE THING I WAS SAYING.
'CAUSE THAT WAS GONNA BE PUBLIC SPACE.
SO MAKING SURE THAT STAYS PUBLIC SO THAT WAY WE CAN DO THE VIBE TRAIL.
WE CAN HAVE MAYBE EVEN SOME BIRD WATCHING STATIONS.
SOMETHING, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW SKY'S THE LIMIT NOW, BUT MAKING SURE THAT STAYS A PUBLIC SPACE IS REAL IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ADVERTISING AS A PUBLIC SPACE.
SO I'M GOOD WITHOUT THE WATER FEATURE.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO, EVEN ONE OF THE THINGS THIS CONVERSATION'S DOING, WE DO HAVE DEVELOPMENT GOING OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SO DOING THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO BE PROACTIVE FOR THE WILDLIFE IS SOMETHING I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT, THE CONVERSATION YOU AND I HAD, UM, EARLIER IN THE WEEK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE WILDLIFE, UH, I'M THINKING THE CITY COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF DOING, UH, OWL BOXES OR EVEN CREATING HABITAT IN THE PARTS THAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW.
THIS, THIS TRAIL, THE CREEK THERE RUNS RIGHT BACK TO THE, UH, LAKE KYLE, WHICH IS A GREAT SPOT TO START, YOU KNOW, RELOCATING WILDLIFE NATURALLY AS IT'S GOING THROUGH SOME OF IT.
SO WE COULD CREATE PLACES THAT OF SANCTUARY FOR ANIMALS.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO, UH, AS A CITY, AS WE GET DEVELOPMENT, MAKING SURE IN THE PARK LINE THAT WE'RE HAVING, WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN FOR THE WILDLIFE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE, I THINK OUR PARK STAFF CAN REALLY TAKE A LEAD ON.
UH, ALSO, LIKE LA VERDE HAS A WATER FEATURE AND IT DOES NOT USE A LOT OF WATER.
SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD STILL BE, UH, COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
SO, LIKE I SAID, THE MAYOR SAID, I WOULD NOT WANT YOU TODD, TO UM, MAKE YOUR DEVELOPMENT LESSER, UH, IN, IN THE AMENITY.
SO, BUT I AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL, THE DRINKING WATER TO FILL, IT'S
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A LITTLE HARDER TO SEE THAT, BUT NON-POTABLE WATER WOULD BE, UH, A BETTER COURSE.SO WE WENT TO SCOTTSDALE A FEW WEEKS, MONTHS AGO TO TOUR A REGIONAL SPORTS PLEX.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD, UM, SOCCER FIELDS AND BASEBALL FIELDS AND ALL THAT USES WATER AS WELL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? DID YOU KNOW SCOTTSDALE GETS SIX INCHES OF RAIN ANNUALLY AND THEY HAVE TO BRING IN THEIR WATER IN AQUEDUCTS AND THEY DON'T DO ARTIFICIAL TURF BECAUSE THE HEAT MAKES IT TERRIBLE.
SO THEY WATER EVERYTHING AND, BUT THEY, THAT'S, IT'S JUST THE RESULT OF GOOD CITY PLANNING.
AND SO THESE AGREEMENTS I THINK ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO SET OURSELVES UP LONG TERM, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR COUNSEL, 'CAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO VOTE ON THE THREE 80 SLASH 3 81.
WOULD THAT COME WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? AND SECOND, IS THERE A 3 81 OR JUST 3 83.
SO THE THREE 80 AND THE DA WOULD COME CONCURRENTLY WITH SECOND READING.
IS THAT THE INTENT? THAT'S THE PLAN.
UH, THAT ASSUMES THAT WE CAN GET ALL OF THIS NEGOTIATED AND BACK BY SECOND READING.
CAN WE GIVE A, CAN WE, UH, CAN WE PASS IT FIRST READING A ZONING AND THEN GIVE DIRECTION FOR SECOND READING? NOT TO COME BACK FOR A I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE.
I'M, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A MOTION, I'M JUST CUR I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
IN, IN THEORY, YES, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR SECOND READING TO COME BACK WHEN THE DA IS AVAILABLE.
THERE'S NOTHING AND THE 80 DOCUMENTS ARE READY SO THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY COME BACK IF Y'ALL AREN'T READY.
AND WE'RE FORCED TO JUST POSTPONE INDEFINITELY.
AND THERE, I THINK OUR GOAL IS TO GET THIS ON THE NEXT MEETING.
THAT'S, THAT'S EVERYBODY'S GOAL.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT READY, WE DON'T IF YOU CAN WAIT FOR THE FOLLOW.
SO I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, UH, PAGE NUMBER 35.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS NEED TO, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE MY REAL ISSUE IS.
ONE MORE PAGE 35 OF YOUR PRESENTATION.
THAT'S WHAT I REALLY NEED TO DIG INTO MY PRESENTATION.
UH, IS, IS IT OKAY IF I LET COUNCILOR HEISER GO? OH, IF HE HASN'T GONE YET? IF QUESTION IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR BEFORE THAT, THEN I'M GOOD.
YEAH, NO, I JUST WANTED, HE HADN'T GOTTEN GOOD.
A COUPLE GENERAL, UM, STATEMENTS AND SOME REQUESTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE RETAIL IS ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET TONIGHT, I DON'T THINK.
UM, AND INITIALLY WE, BACK IN DECEMBER LET YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS A PRIORITY OF OURS TO TRY TO, UM, BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE TYPES OF RETAIL YOU'RE BRINGING INTO, UH, YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UH, I VERY MUCH KNOW THE CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH THAT, WITH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO LOWER RATES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES OR MORE UNIQUE BUS BUSINESSES, NON-CHAIN BUSINESSES.
UM, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE HAVING A PRETTY OPEN DIALOGUE HERE.
AND I FEEL LIKE, UH, AT LEAST IN MY 18 MONTHS ON COUNCIL, I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS GOVERNING BODY, UH, RE UH, LEARN, UH, IN REACT, UH, IN REAL TIME LIKE IT HAS WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND LOOKING BACK AT SOME OF THE O OVERSIGHTS WITH PAST DECISIONS.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA LET THIS ONE GO WITH APPLYING A LITTLE PRESSURE HERE WITH TRYING TO BE CREATIVE WITH HOW WE CAN FIND WAYS TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE HOMES FOR LOCAL AND HYPER-LOCAL BUSINESSES IN YOUR RETAIL SPACES.
AND I THINK WHY ONE OF THE REASONS IS LIKE WHAT WE'RE ALSO NOT TALKING ABOUT IS THIS IS ANCHORING THE DOWNTOWN, LIKE THE EAST SIDE OF OUR DOWNTOWN.
UH, AND THERE IS A MASSIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR WHAT THE REST OF OUR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT CAN LOOK LIKE.
AND I THINK IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE CITY, TO OUR CITY, TO OUR RESIDENTS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMEONE UP HERE SAID, OR SOMEONE LIKE A DRIVE THROUGH TYPE, UM, ENVIRONMENT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT WE WANT.
AND I KNOW, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT.
UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ALL TALKING VERY CREATIVELY ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET AROUND WATER FEATURES AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.
AND I, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THIS COMES BACK, IS HOW YOU CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY WHETHER, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO DO GHOST KITCHENS IN SOME OF THE RETAIL SPACES, WHICH OFFERS, UH, YOU KNOW, LOWER RENTS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO GET OFF THE GROUND.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK, UH, THAT'S AT LEAST A, A PRIORITY FOR ME AND I'M GONNA BRING THAT BACK UP THE NEXT TIME.
UM, WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, UM, AND I JUST A GENERAL THOUGHT ON DENSITY TO THE GENTLEMAN, UH, WHO MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO'VE CRITIQUED THIS DEVELOPMENT AND SAID THAT WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HATE APARTMENTS AND IT'S TOO
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MANY PEOPLE AND WE'RE OVERCROWDED AND WATER USE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOW THE OUTCOME OF DENYING DENSITY IS DENYING AFFORDABILITY FOR OUR CITY.UH, AND I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT BEFORE I GOT INTO THIS POSITION.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON US TO EDUCATE, BUT WE CAN'T, UH, IF WE KEEP BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE JUST MAJOR DRAINS ON OUR WATER SYSTEM AND WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT HOW TO BUILD AROUND CENTERS OF DENSITY WITH EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO LOWER OUR, UH, A COST OF LIVING HERE.
AND THE SAME THING WITH THE ADDITION OF RETAIL, BECAUSE THAT PAYS US BACK OVER THE COURSE OF THE LONG TERM.
UM, SO YEAH, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.
WELL, MOST OF YOU, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T SAY A DAMN THING IN THE LAST MEETING
UM, SO, AND YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXERCISE AND, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR PLAYING ALONG.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I HAVE EVERYBODY HERE HAVE THE STUFF WE'VE SAID HERE.
BUT IF, IF MORE NOTES, IF YOU CAN THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN BE CREATIVE WITH MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR LAST I TOO.
UM, SO I HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND OBVIOUSLY 350 UNITS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT THERE, BUT IT DOES FIT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE'RE DEALING WITH THE TRA WITH TRAFFIC.
BUT ONE REQUEST THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, AND I KNOW YOU MIGHT BE FLEXIBLE ON IT, IS THE PARCEL ONE WITH THE FLATS.
UM, THE TOWN HOMES, I CAN UNDERSTAND THERE, BUT IF THE FLATS DON'T REALLY ADD MORE INTO THE PROJECT, THAT WOULD HELP REMOVE SOME, SOME TRAFFIC ON ONE 50.
UH, JUST, JUST, I JUST, I NEEDED TO SAY THAT PART OF IT.
AND I THINK THE MEANING MART IS ESSENTIAL THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COMING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE, UH, UH, WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING REALLY ADDS A LOT OF UNIFORMITY AND FITS AND IT'S VERY COMPATIBLE WITH, UM, TRYING TO SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE THERE.
THEY'RE SPEC SPECIFICALLY IN THAT LOCATION, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE SOLVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS IF, IF WE WORK, UM, THINKING LONG FUTURE, UH, USE OF THAT, OF THAT AREA.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND I'M, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU SHORTLY.
UM, THE TOWN HOME IDEA WAS BROUGHT TO US BY CITY.
ACTUALLY IT WAS BROUGHT TO US BY THE EXC CITY MANAGER THAT HE WANTED FLATS THERE.
SO WE DECIDED WE WOULD INCORPORATE FLATS WHERE THE TOWN HOMES EXIST TODAY.
WHAT IS A FLAT, RIGHT? WHAT IS THAT? THAT'S LIKE 20 OF SOMETHING, RIGHT? IT'S JUST ONE FLAT FLORIDA WHERE YOU PUT PEOPLE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
I MEAN, AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN ONE ROOM YOU HAVE WHAT? A KITCHEN AND BATHROOM, A BEDROOM AND A, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT, I GUESS.
SO YOU SAID YOU PREFER JUST TO MAKE IT RETAIL? SO I SAY JUST LEAVE IT RETAIL.
I WANNA LEAVE THAT UP TO COUNCIL BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY MAKE ANY, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ANY BREAD AND BUTTER FOR ME WHATSOEVER.
SO IF IT ALL, IF ALL THE TOWN HOMES AND THE FLATS GO AWAY, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
I'M LET, I'M LETTING Y'ALL DECIDE IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL AS A GROUP WANT TO DO.
I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO, IT DOESN'T BENEFIT.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T BENEFIT ME.
I LIKE THE COMPONENT TO THE, TO THE MIXED USE.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT WORK, BUT IF EVERYBODY SAYS, HEY, YEAH, YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH 350 UNITS ACROSS THE STREET, WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FLEXIBILITY I HAVE TOWARDS SURE.
THAT COMPONENT, WHETHER IT'S THE TOWN HOMES, THE FLATS, OR EITHER OR.
UM, SO I'M OPEN TO THAT IDEA BACK TO THE LOCALS, RIGHT? SO I'M TALKING TO THE GUYS THAT BOUGHT, UH, RUDY'S MIGHTY FINES, UM, TONY C'S NOW THEY OWN PROBABLY SIX OR EIGHT DIFFERENT LOCAL AND THERE'S ALREADY A MIGHTY FIND DOWN THE ROAD OF COURSE.
AND THERE'S ALREADY, I DUNNO IF THERE'S A, TONY SEES THAT AREA.
SO ANYWAY, I'M ALREADY IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
I'M TRYING TO CON CONTACT AS MANY LOCAL VENDORS GROUPS IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA AS POSSIBLE.
THEN REACH OUT TO THE NATIONAL TEXAS GROUP.
WE'RE GONNA DO A LOT OF SOLICITING TO TEXAS BEFORE WE GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
YOU KNOW, MY IDEA IS TO MAKE THIS WHOLE THING SUCCESSFUL AND BUILD THE WHOLE THING OUT.
AND SO I DON'T WANT IT TO STALL LIKE THE DOMAIN FOR EXAMPLE.
I MEAN, IT, IT JUST STOPPED BECAUSE OF ECONOMICS AND OTHER THINGS.
SO, SO THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTA HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO DO EVERYTHING INTERNALLY MOVING OUTWARD AS I MOVE THROUGH THIS PROJECT IN, IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S WHAT OUR TEAM IS TOLD.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR THE TOTALITY OF THE RETAIL TO TO ALL BE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT I HAD DESCRIBED, BUT YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT WOULD BE NICE.
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BE, YOU'D BE ELISE I THINK YOU'D BE THE FIRST TO, TO DO THAT.THE, THE, THE CHALLENGE IS THE NICER YOU REQUIRE THE FACILITIES TO BE THAT IT'S, THAT THE WAY THE MARKET WOULD WORK IS THAT THEY SHOULD CHARGE SMALL BUSINESSES MORE, NOT LESS BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE RISKY CLIENTS THAN NATIONAL TENANTS.
THE NATIONAL TENANTS GET THE DISCOUNT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MORE RELIABLE INCOME STREAM.
AND THE BANK'S THE ONES THAT MAKE A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS.
SO IF YOU REQUIRE IT TO BE A LOCAL TENANT, UH, WITHOUT PROVIDING SOME KIND OF ASSURANCE, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING WE REQUIRE YOU TO TAKE MORE RISK, WHICH IS NOT EVEN UP TO HIM TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
THE BANKS ARE THE ONES THAT MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
SO THAT'S IN TOTAL CONFLICT WITH THE CHALLENGES OF STARTING A SMALL BUSINESS, WHICH I KNOW IS WHY IT'S DIFFICULT.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THEY FAIL.
SO I THINK THE, THE, THE POINT BEING THAT A LOT OF TIMES HOW YOU GET AWAY FROM THE NATIONAL CHANGE IS THAT YOU DON'T ALLOW FOR THE LAND USE TO BE A, UM, IN TO, TO HAPPEN IN SUCH A PATTERN THAT CHAINS AND DRIVE-THROUGHS.
LIKE ELIMINATING DRIVE-THROUGHS OR RESTRICTING THE AMOUNT, WHICH I KNOW WE HAVE IN THIS PROJECT, UH, ELIMINATES A TON OF CHAINS AND VERY FEW LOCAL BUSINESSES ARE TRYING TO DO DRIVE THROUGH ON I 35 STRIP RETAIL.
SO THE, THE, THOSE SMALLER PIECES OF RETAIL IN A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT ARE THE TYPE OF SPACES THAT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS CAN USE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE STRIP I 35, WHICH IS WHAT WOULD COME, YOU WANNA GUARANTEE THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES MM-HMM.
UH, AND THEN JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT.
I'D LIKE TO ADD ON TO WHAT COUNCILOR HEISER WAS SAYING.
THE FOLKS A LOT, THANK YOU FOR STAYING.
A LOT OF FOLKS WHO MAKE THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST DON'T STAY.
THEY DON'T WANNA HEAR FROM BACK FROM US.
THEY WANNA TELL US, BUT THEY DON'T WANNA HEAR BACK.
BUT CONSIDER HOW MANY SQUARE, HOW MANY FEET OF PAVEMENT THAT SOMEONE HAS TO DRIVE THROUGH OFF OF I 35 TO GET TO THIS SITE.
WHAT IS IT A HUNDRED FEET, MAYBE 500 FEET OF PAVEMENT TO GET TO IT? THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR.
IT'S NOT EVEN, IT'S NOT EVEN OUR ROAD.
THEY GO TO TXDOT AND SAY, OKAY, TDOT, THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR HIGHWAY.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO ACCOMMODATE FOR OURSELVES? TXDOT SAYS, PUT IN THE DE CELL LANES AND THE TURN LANES AND DO THIS TO MINIMIZE YOUR IMPACT ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO HOW MUCH DOES IT COST THE CITY TO APPROVE AND ALLOW FOR THIS DENSE DEVELOPMENT? ALMOST NOTHING.
HOW MANY FEET OF WATERLINE, HOW MANY FEET OF, OF WASTEWATER LINE DO WE HAVE TO PUT IN? VERY, VERY LITTLE.
AND AS, SO WHAT'S CAUSING ALL THE TRAFFIC ON ONE 50? WHAT'S CAUSING ALL THE PROBLEMS? IT'S THE ENDLESS SPRAWL.
IT'S EVERYONE WHO LIVES ALL THE WAY OUT TO LOCKHART AND CALDWELL COUNTY THAT ARE JAMMING UP ONE 50.
AND THE ONE LITTLE PIECE THAT'S EXTREMELY VALUABLE, IF YOU PUT, IF YOU PUT MIXED USE, WE'RE GONNA SAY NO.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY PAY THE TAXES.
THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ADDING TO THE TRAFFIC DON'T, AREN'T EVEN TAXPAYERS.
THEY LIVE, THEY LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY AND ALL THIS GROWING, GROWING SPRAWL THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
SO IF WE SAY, BECAUSE OF THAT TRAFFIC PROBLEM THAT'S COMING ON ONE 50, THAT WE'RE GONNA DENY 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF HIGH-END MIXED USE RETAIL.
WE'RE ACTUALLY LOWERING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EVERYONE WHO LIVES THERE BECAUSE THAT TRAFFIC PROBLEM WILL NOT GO AWAY.
BUT RIGHT NOW, EVERYONE WHO LIVES DOWN ONE 50, HOW FAR DO YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO GET TO ANY GOOD RESTAURANT OR RETAIL? YOU HEAR FROM ME ALL THE TIME.
YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN ONE 50, THEN YOU GO ALL THE WAY UP TO EXIT TWO 15 BEFORE YOU GET TO THE MM-HMM.
IF YOU WANNA GET TO A A REAL RESTAURANT, YOU GOTTA GO EVEN FARTHER.
THIS IN DOWNTOWN HAS NO RESTAURANTS BECAUSE OF THE ONE 50 STATE HIGHWAY TRAFFIC PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE THAT PUTS THAT AREA INTO GRIDLOCK.
SO WE DO NOT ALLOW FOR GOOD QUALITY RETAIL TO BE ESTABLISHED IN A MIXED USE AREA DOWNTOWN.
WE ARE NOT INCREASING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
WE'RE DECREASING IT BY DENYING READY TO GO HIGH QUALITY RETAIL.
AT LEAST THAT WOULD BE THE ARGUMENT THAT I WOULD MAKE.
AND, UH, FROM A WATER STANDPOINT, UH, THE ARGUMENT THAT THE GENTLEMAN, GENTLEMAN MADE IS EXACTLY ACCURATE.
95% OF THE WATER USE IN GEORGETOWN IS IRRIGATION OF SINGLE FAMILY LAWNS.
SO THE ARGUMENT WAS MADE, WELL, LET'S SAY AVERAGE IS 175,000 GALLONS OR WHATEVER.
LET'S, WELL YOU'RE IN AN APARTMENT SO YOU DON'T WATER AND YOU DON'T DO THIS.
SO LET'S BRING IT DOWN TO ONE 50.
SINGLE FAM OR SINGLE, UH, ONE BEDROOM AND TWO BEDROOM APARTMENTS ARE, ARE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE IN THEIR TWENTIES, MAYBE IT'S A BRAND NEW FAMILY.
THEY'RE NOT USING HEAVY AMOUNT OF WATER.
THEY DO NOT HAVE YARDS, THEY DO NOT HAVE LONG STRETCHES OF HIGHWAY THAT THEY TRAVEL.
THEY SHOP RIGHT THERE AND HELP ACTIVATE THE RETAIL.
AND I COULD GO ON AND ON EVERY LAND USE PLANNER, EVERY DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, CONFERENCE THAT YOU GO TO, EVERY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU'LL
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PUT FORWARD WILL SAY THAT HIGH DENSITY RETAIL AT YOUR URBAN CORES AND YOUR REGION, SUPER REGIONAL NODES IS EXACTLY THE TYPE, TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT YOU NEED IF YOU WANT TO BE A PROSPEROUS CITY LONG TERM.AND SO IF YOU LISTEN TO THE ARGUMENTS THAT SAY, WELL IT'S AN APARTMENT, THEREFORE IT'S GONNA BRING CRIMINALS AND IT'S GONNA, THERE'RE GONNA BE A DRAIN ON OUR RESOURCES.
IT'S IRONIC BECAUSE THE TRUE DRAIN ON THE RESOURCES IS THE SPRAWL AND EVERYTHING TO THE EAST.
SO I WOULD SAY PERSONALLY NO TO THE SINGLE FAMILY FOLKS WHO LIVE FAR OUT, PLEASE STOP BUILDING YOUR MASSIVE SPRAWLING SUBDIVISIONS AND YES TO THE INFILL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS THAT BRING FAR MORE IN TAX REVENUE THAN THEY COST IN, IN TAX IN EXPENSES.
AND THAT USE FAR LESS CITY RESOURCES AND VALUABLE NATURAL RESOURCES PER CAPITA THAN THE SINGLE FAMILY.
AND NOW I'M DONE THINKING, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO ADD TO THAT? JUST ONE THING WITH THAT, WITH THE, THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'VE, THE CITY'S PUT OUT WHERE IT LISTS OUR, OUR POWER WATER USERS AND YOU SEE, UH, A BUNCH IN THE TOP 10 OR APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
AND THAT'S WHY APARTMENTS ARE BAD FOR WATER USE.
I MEAN, I BET IF YOU TOOK THE TOTALITY OF EVERY HOME IN PLUM CREEK AND YOU ADDED UP ALL OF THE WATER USED, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD JUST BE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT ONE THROUGH 10, ONE THROUGH 10 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO JUST IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE NOT PART OF IT.
SO I, I HAD SOME URGE, SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH THE FLATS AND TOWN HOMES AND KEEPING THAT RETAIL.
IS THAT WHAT THE WILL OF COUNCIL'S LOOKING AT, UH, DOING THAT? BECAUSE I'M, I'M AMENABLE TO THAT AS LONG AS WE GET INTO RETAIL THERE.
MM-HMM
UH, ACTUALLY IT TAKES AWAY A LOT OF THE DENSITY 'CAUSE YOU GOT LESS PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT, UH, COUNCIL'S AMENABLE TO IF, BECAUSE I'M GOOD EITHER WAY PERSONALLY.
WELL, YEAH, IF WELL YEAH, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE THING WAS.
WE WERE REALLY PUSHING FOR THE RETAIL OKAY.
FOR THE, FOR, FOR THE, THE BUSINESSES THERE.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF BRINGING THAT TO THAT AREA OF TOWN.
UH, I UNDERSTAND MR. HE'S POINT ABOUT THE SMALL BUSINESSES OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE.
UM, AND ALSO A SELLING POINT, WHICH YOU'RE SAYING MR. MAYOR, ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT DENSITY.
'CAUSE I'VE WENT, I WROTE DOWN ALL MY NOTES.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WATER, PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PARKING, GARAGE ENVIRONMENT, RETAIL DENSITY, TRAFFIC FLOW.
IT'S COULD BE A SELLING POINT AS WELL BECAUSE YOU HAVE THOSE RETAILS THERE AND YOU BRING IN THE APARTMENTS.
UM, EVEN THOUGH I WAS KIND OF ON THE, ON THE FENCE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS AND SO FORTH.
BUT WE ARE GOING THROUGH A HIGH HOUSING CRISIS IN, IN MOST OF THIS AREA.
EVEN IN SAN MARCOS, EVEN WITH THE UNIVERSITIES.
SO, UH, I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING FROM ON THAT END.
UH, UH, WHEN I FIRST VOTED, NO, IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF, I DIDN'T WANT RETAIL THERE.
IT'S BECAUSE I NEEDED CLARIFICATION ABOUT EVERYTHING.
WE SPOKE ABOUT THE FIRST HOUR, ABOUT THE DENSITY OF THE WATER DENSITY OF THE PHASE ONE AND TWO, THE PARKING GARAGE AND SO FORTH, AND THE DRAINAGE, THE ENVIRONMENTS AND SO FORTH.
'CAUSE THERE'S STORIES I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM ACROSS THE STATE WHEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN, A LOT OF THE WATER RUNOFF FROM THE CONSTRUCTION ENDS UP IN PONDS, ENDS UP IN BACKYARDS.
AND I KNOW WHERE THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FLOODS SO FORTH.
UM, SO I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE EASED NOW TO SEE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING THROUGH THAT ISSUE.
SO ONE SUBJECT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TRY, UH, TO TOUCH ON, 'CAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, IS THE TRAFFIC FLOW, UH, THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS TO, FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT OF IF THIS GOES THROUGH THE LONG TERM, UH, WHERE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS A CONTINGENCY PLAN TO EASE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN BRINGING UP? LIKE WE, WE'VE HIT ALL THE OTHER MARKS, BUT THE TRAFFIC IS ONE OF ONE OF THE ONES THAT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS.
WE HAVE MORE SLIDES TO GO THROUGH AND WE'LL SHOW YOU THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AND SOME OF THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MAKE AS PART OF JASON'S DOING A GREAT JOB ON THIS PRESENTATION.
BUT, UM, WE, WE'VE GOT A FEW MORE SLIDES TO GO THROUGH AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHOW YOU THE TIA AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING, UH, PLANNED.
ALRIGHT, JASON, THAT SOUNDED LIKE A SEGUE.
YOU'RE DOING SUCH A GOOD GUY JOB.
I WAS GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU,
UM, SO LET'S SEE, WHERE WERE WE? UH, 33.
WE TOUCHED ON WATER, UH, AND ELECTRIC.
UM, AND I'M COMING TO 35, BUT, UH, WE'LL GO FINISH THIS.
UH, SO, UH, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, UH, TIA TRAFFIC, OBVIOUSLY A BIG CONCERN.
UH, ANY, ANY MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
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UM, SO CITY AND TXDOT DID REVIEW THE TIA THAT THEY WERE PROPOSED.AGAIN, UH, TDOT HAS CERTAIN CRITERIA DEPENDING ON LAND USE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
THEY, THEY HAVE AN ACCESS MANAGEMENT MANUAL THAT KIND OF DICTATES IF YOU DO A, THEN YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO BX VERSUS Y.
UM, SO SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING, AND AGAIN, I'M A I'M GONNA FOCUS, PHASE ONE HAS TO BE DONE AS PART OF THE FIRST PHASE, UH, NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT'S GONNA BE MIDBLOCK ON ONE 50.
OBVIOUSLY WITH THAT COMES RETIMING OF ADDITIONAL LIGHTS, UH, TURN LANES, DECELERATION LANES ALONG ONE 50 N IH 35.
SO IF YOU'RE HEADING SOUTHBOUND, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SLOW UP THAT TRAFFIC.
THERE'LL BE A DESAL LANE THAT YOU CAN TURN INTO, GET OFF ON THE, ON THE SIDE SHARE DRIVEWAYS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AGAIN, SIDEWALKS AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, ENSURING CONNECTIVITY.
A AGAIN, MORE PEOPLE WALKING LESS MEANS, LESS PEOPLE DRIVING.
UH, AND THEN AGAIN, PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS THAT MITIGATE THOSE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
SO, UH, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON ON ON THOSE.
UM, I'LL KIND OF SCROLL THROUGH SOME OF THE IMAGES.
UM, SO THIS IS, UH, PROPOSED, UH, RIDE IN, RIDE OUT DRIVEWAY ON MIKEY COURT.
UM, THAT'S CURRENTLY HOW IT FUNCTIONS.
NOW, I MEAN THAT WE HAVE THIS CENTER TURN LANE MEDIAN, UM, SO THAT THE, JUST DEFINE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT ONE, JASON? SORRY, I MEAN NO, THAT'S OKAY.
SO RIGHT THERE, THAT INTERSECTION THAT GOES, IT TIES UP TO ONE 50 FROM MIKEY COURT AND WHAT IS CALLED GO FORTH, THAT IS CONNECTING WITH MINA.
THAT RIGHT THERE IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS.
UM, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS DID A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, IMPROVEMENTS BEING DONE TO THE OTHER AREA.
BUT THIS RIGHT HERE IS AN INTERSECTION I DRIVE EVERY DAY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS HAVE GOTTEN APPROVED AND THAT THE TRAFFIC THAT IS COMING FROM ONE 50 IS FROM OTHER SUBDIVISIONS.
BUT THAT WHERE MY CORE IS AND WHERE YOU HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A YIELD SIGN OR SOMETHING.
THAT TRIANGLE, I THINK THAT'S THE SHOWING THAT WE CALL THOSE PORK CHOPS, UH, JUST DICTATES RIDE IN, RIDE OUT MOVEMENT TURNS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S UH, INDICATING.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE, UM, COMPLEX BY MIKEY COURT.
AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TURN TO TIE 2 1 50 AND DO THEY, ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO TURN RIGHT? UH, YES.
UM, YOU KNOW, COMMON SENSE WOULD SAY THEY CAN'T DRIVE OVER THE CURB UNLESS THEY'RE IN TRACK.
'CAUSE I DO THAT
THERE'S MULTIPLE, UM, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE ONLY EXIT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOME ACCESS INTO THE PHASE TWO.
UM, SO IF, IF I CAN SHOW YOU ON THE NEXT IMAGE.
UM, SO THIS, UH, IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.
EAST SIDE, THERE'S A NORTHERN ENTRANCE, UM, ABOVE THE INNER SIDE INTER YEAH.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER ACCESS POINT FOR THAT MULTIFAMILY.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ALL COMING OUT OF ONE ONE AREA.
THEY'RE GONNA SPLIT THAT TRAFFIC AMONG THOSE TWO WAYS.
SO CAN YOU GO BACK PLEASE,
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, IT'S A REDESIGN OF THAT INTERSECTION THAT GOES WITH MY CORE, CONNECTS WITH GO FORWARD AND GOES TO ONE 50 BECAUSE THAT CANNOT BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO CONNECT WITH ONE 50.
I CAN ALREADY SEE THE CLUSTER THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THERE BECAUSE IT HAPPENS ALREADY AND THE PHILOMENA APARTMENTS HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN OCCUPIED.
SO I DON'T EVEN WANNA IMAGINE WHAT THAT INTERSECTION WOULD LOOK LIKE.
AND ALTHOUGH WE ARE UM, KIND OF TYING ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT TO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING UP, I AM ONE OF THOSE USERS AND I'M NOT GONNA BE THE ONLY ONE.
AND IT WILL BE REALLY CONGESTED THAT RIGHT WHERE THAT YOU HAVE THAT TRIANGLE IN THERE THAT MY ASK WOULD BE FOR THAT TO BE REASSIGNED.
I THINK THE ISSUE THAT I WANT TO BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL IS THAT WHILE IT LOOKS LIKE A STREET AND OPERATES LIKE A STREET THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT A CITY STREET, UM, THAT IS A PRIVATE DRIVE, UM, THAT SERVES MULTIPLE BUSINESSES THERE.
SO, UM, WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON WHAT WE CAN DO ON THAT INTERSECTION.
WHAT ARE SOME OF OUR OPTIONS? WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON ALONG IN THE BACK.
UM, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE LOOKING AT SUBDIVIDING THAT PROPERTY.
UM, FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT THOUGH, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH TDO BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT A STREET.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE CHANGES THAT LITTLE SPACE HAVE RIGHT.
UM, IT IS, IT IS CONSIDERED A PRIVATE DRIVE.
UM, IT, IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A STREET NAME.
SO THAT IS LIKE MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
I THINK THAT'S A, I THINK THAT'S A, A BIGGER ISSUE.
UM, OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, I MEAN WE, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UM, PROBABLY PRIOR TO MY INVOLVEMENT WITH, WITH THIS TWO STEP PROJECT.
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IS IT, I WISH I HAD AN ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW I DID NOT.IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO TAKE OVER THE PRIVATE DRIVE MAINTENANCE REPAIRS ON IT SO THAT IT GETS TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE CITY SINCE IT'S A, THAT'S GONNA BE MORE FOR US TO GO REMOTE PLACE, BUT IT'S A SMALL, BUT IT'S JUST A SMALL SEGMENT.
WHAT IF WE HAVE TO DESIGN A ROUNDABOUT OR WHATEVER GOES IN THERE TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC FLOW, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO END UP PAYING FOR THAT.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR IT IF YOU WANT IT.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THING.
'CAUSE THAT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY BRINGING TRAFFIC FROM FINA AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY, IF WE TAKE OVER IT, THEN THAT BECOMES IT.
IT'S DEFINITELY WHAT YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS IS THAT YOU'RE UPSET THAT YOU GO THROUGH A PRIVATE DRIVE AND IT BACKS UP.
SO REALLY, UNLESS YOU'RE VISITING THOSE PRIVATE, UH, THOSE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, STORES OR WHATEVER, THESE ARE, YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T BE GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.
SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING.
BUT ALONG WITH THE REST OF YEAH, WITH THE REST OF KYLE, YEAH, THAT'S GOING THROUGH THAT LITTLE SECTION AND I GO THROUGH IT TOO AS WELL.
BUT WHAT, WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE'RE GONNA, I HAVEN'T JUMPED THE CURB, I JUST CUT IN FRONT, BUT IF, BUT IF YOU WANNA, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, UH, ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC THERE, REALLY THINK ABOUT THE ENTIRE, UH, CORNER THERE WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE COMING OUT.
UH, JUST FOUR I 35, UH, THE INTER THE, UH, SIDE ROAD THERE.
SO AS A CITY WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF OUR THING.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS, SINCE YOU'LL BE TYING UP TO THAT, AND I KNOW THAT YOU SAY IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE ONLY ENTRANCE TO THE COMPLEX, IT'S STILL PEOPLE WILL BE USING IT AND IT'LL ADD UP TO THE TRAFFIC.
SO WHAT COULD YOU DO IN THAT INTERSECTION? WHAT CAN BE DONE? YES.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO TURN THAT OVER TO THEM.
I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER AGAIN, I THINK, I MEAN ALL WE CAN DO IS TRY TO INFLUENCE TXDOT TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WHETHER IT'S A ROUNDABOUT IN THAT AREA.
UM, IT HASN'T BEEN A, A BIG TOPIC BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS OR LANDOWNERS TO THE NORTH OF THAT ARROW OR THAT TRIANGLE HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO TO TRY TO IMPROVE THAT STREET.
SO, UM, I'LL BE GLAD TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH TEXDOT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY INFLUENCE WE CAN PUT ON THEM TO HELP, UM, MITIGATE THIS TRAFFIC ISSUE.
BUT I I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
IT, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE HIRED OUR TIA SPECIALISTS AND WE HIRED, UM, AND WE HAD CITY AND TDOT MEETINGS.
SO WE CAME UP WITH THE BEST PLAN POSSIBLE FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO CUT THAT WHOLE CURB OUT AND YEAH.
AND PUT SOMETHING THERE AND OR A ROUNDABOUT.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, AND I'D BE WILLING TO DEDICATE SOME OF MY LAND FOR IT IF NECESSARY.
BUT WE HAVEN'T APPROACHED THE CITY WITH THAT OR TECH STOP REALLY.
'CAUSE IT'S TECH STOP ROAD THAT REALLY IS GONNA IMPACT THAT.
UM, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO RUN DOWN THAT WHOLE RABBIT HOLE TO TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH THE TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, IT JUST STILL MAKES ME NERVOUS.
'CAUSE WE JUST HAD OUR BIGGEST CULPRIT JUST GO BY THE TRAIN, THE TRAIN
WHEN THAT TRAIN BREAKS DOWN AND WHEN THAT TRAIN GOES THROUGH ONE 50, IT JUST BACKS UP ALL THE WAY TO PAST SONIC, ALL THE WAY UP THE HILL.
UM, AND THEN NOW SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING A TRAFFIC LIGHT RIGHT THERE, UH, YOU KNOW,
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SO MANY PUZZLE PIECES WITH OUR CITY AND SOME AREAS ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, FOUR ACRES OF THIS AND 20 ACRES OF THAT.
IT'S JUST THE AREA AND JUST THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED AND, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND OUR BEST SOLUTIONS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING UP HERE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRAINSTORMING.
WE'RE NOT KNOCKING THE ROADS, WE'RE NOT KNOCKING THE RETAIL, WE'RE NOT KNOCKING THE APARTMENTS.
WE'RE, WE'RE JUST IN THE ENVIRONMENTS AND, AND CUTTING TREES DOWN.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE BECAUSE THIS SECTION OF KYLE, THIS LITTLE AREA, IT'S SO SMALL, BUT IT JUST HAS SO MANY DIFFICULT COMPONENTS THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE TO DRIVE.
WE HAVE A RESTAURANT THAT'S UP THERE THAT, THAT IS, GETS CLOGGED UP WITH TRAFFIC.
WE HAVE THE, THE SIDEWALKS AND ALSO THE APARTMENTS, THE WATER DRAINAGE.
SO IT'S JUST A LOT OF 'EM ON PLATE.
BUT I'M GLAD WE AS COUNSEL IS, IS SITTING DOWN AND REALLY DISSECTING EVERY LITTLE PIECE SURE.
I I THINK YOU MADE A GREAT POINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT WE NEED TO SEE THE FOREST FROM THE TREES.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC ISSUES HERE AT ONE 50 AND THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS MITIGATING THEIRS.
UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLANS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE HAVE TO BE DONE IN, IN AND TOGETHER.
UH, AND, AND SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TRYING TO SOLVE THE, THE ONE 50 TRAFFIC.
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WE HAVE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS, INTERCONNECTIVITY.SO AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, I THINK WE'LL DEFINITELY WORK WITH OUR ENGINEERS, GET WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ON THAT INTERSECTION.
UM, TO YOUR POINT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD COME BACK WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS? UM, FOR THIS ONE, I THINK, UH, POSSIBLY, UM, EITHER THAT OR, OR AS MAYOR MITCHELL SAID, WE COULD TALK ABOUT PUTTING SOME FLEXIBLE LANGUAGE IN THERE TO, TO PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS.
A AGAIN, I'D HAVE TO, TO GET WITH TXDOT THEIR ENGINEER AND, AND OUR CITY ENGINEER AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNER.
UM, A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF MY WHEELHOUSE ON THAT.
SO, UH, YEAH, I I THINK TRYING TO GET TDOT TO APPROVE IT IN TWO WEEKS WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.
I, I THINK THE BEST, UH, COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF LANGUAGE WHICH ALLOW US TO ADDRESS IT IN SOME WAY.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOLUTION IS.
UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND, AND WORK WITH TXDOT TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND WHAT IT WOULD, WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON THE ENTIRE ROADWAY.
I I, I REALLY HOPE THAT EVERYBODY, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A PAIN ANY, BUT, BUT I DO DRIVE THAT INTERSECTION EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE EVEN TO COME TO CITY HALL AND I KNOW HOW UGLY IT GETS IN THERE.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT WE ARE GONNA ADD TRAFFIC FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THE ONE THAT IT'S IN FRONT OF FINA THAT ARE ALL GONNA BE TRYING TO CUT THROUGH THAT ROAD AND WE WILL HEAR ABOUT IT.
SO I'M TRYING TO SEE, SEE WHAT CAN CUT THROUGH.
WHY WOULD THEY CUT THROUGH THAT ROAD? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THEY TAKE FROM FINA AND THEN THEY GO BEHIND.
SO WHY WOULDN'T THEY GO IN FRONT? YOU CAN'T TURN LEFT FROM THE BACKSIDE OF THAT.
SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO USE THE BACKSIDE AS A CUT THROUGH TO TURN LEFT TO GO OUT ON ONE 50, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
SO WHAT SHE SAYING, THE BIG CURB JUMPING THE CURB.
BUT WE CAN'T NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
BECAUSE TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURE AND I JUST, I HAVE A DIFFERENT MAP.
WHEN YOU GET OUT OF MINA, YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THAT, THE LEFT TURN LEFT.
IMAGINE BEING FROM IDEA COMING TO CITY HALL AND THEN YOU CUT.
AND YOU BEEN DRIVING A DEAL NOW FOR ONE YEAR.
NOT ALL, EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE.
ENOUGH, ENOUGH TIMES TO STRUGGLE WITH IT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU GOTTA LOOK AT, YOU'D LOVE TO COMPARE WHO'S GOT THE MOST, JUST REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING IS THAT, BUT AS A CITY, THINK ABOUT LONG TERM WHAT THIS COUNCIL WILL BE WORKING ON.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SOLUTIONS FOR RELIEF FOR ONE 50.
WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, SOLUTIONS FOR OUR DOWNTOWN.
OUR MASTER PLAN IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH IN PLAY.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE SOME RELIEF, HOPEFULLY, UH, TO ONE 50 LIKE, UH, NEVER BEFORE, BUT IT'S US FOLLOWING THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAVE.
RIGHT? SO THERE IS HOPEFULLY OPTIONS COMING REALLY SOON.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE GOTTA BE COGNIZANT ABOUT AS A COUNCIL, THAT WE'VE PUT SOME THINGS IN PLAY THAT CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE HAVING.
UH, BUT IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS WE DID IS THE GO FORTH, RIGHT? WE, WE, UH, HAVE STARTED BUILDING SOME OF THE GO FORTH OUT THAT'S GONNA HELP ALLEVIATE, ONCE WE FINALLY BUILD OUT THE GO FORTH, THAT'S GONNA ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ON.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE SOME OF THAT'S ALREADY BUILT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND THE DEVELOPER'S ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.
PART OF IT WE'RE, WE'VE GOT THINGS ON THE HORIZON THAT CAN REALLY ALLEVIATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OFF OF ONE 50.
BUT, UH, THERE'S STILL, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT AND, AND THAT LITTLE SECTION.
THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT COUNCIL CAN DO TOO.
I MEAN, LAST YEAR COUNCIL SAID NO TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF THAT ROAD.
SO IF WE, IF IT'S COUNCIL'S WILL TO GO BACK AND ADDRESS THAT, WE CAN DO THAT AS A COUNCIL.
GO BACK AND ADDRESS THAT AND WORK WITH THE LANDOWNERS IN THAT AREA.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYTHING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN ADD.
WELL, THAT FOR, TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC IN THAT PARKING.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT LANDOWNER INTER THAT HAS THE LAND NEARBY THERE.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENT LANDOWNER FROM THIS LANDOWNER.
BUT WHEN WE ARE DOING THIS REZONING, WE ARE ALREADY APPROVING THAT THEY WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT THERE THAT WILL USE THAT MIKEY COURT IN ORDER TO GET TO ONE 50.
YEAH, BUT YOU'RE ASKING HIM TO DEVELOP A PLACE THAT DOESN'T, HE DOESN'T OWN.
'CAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THIS REZONING.
AGAIN, I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE FRUSTRATED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME SORT OF SOLUTION FOR THAT LITTLE PIECE OF LAND.
WE GOTTA, WE, WE, WE'VE, I'M GOOD.
IT IS VERY, VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION.
HEY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, JASON, ARE YOU DONE? UM, SURE.
THAT'S AN HOUR AND A HALF AND WE'RE GONNA GET TO SEE THE WHOLE THING IN DETAIL COMING BACK.
THE MOTION TO APPROVE IS MADE BY COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA, SECONDED BY, UH, THE MAYOR.
THE MOTION IS ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH.
THIS WILL BE FIRST READING COMING BACK FOR, FOR A SECOND.
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TOBIAS.AND FOR THE RECORD, I'LL OBJECT TO IT BEING FINALLY PASSED.
EVERYBODY THANK Y BY THE WAY, FOR TRYING TO, WE'RE GONNA GET WORK WITH US.
YEAH, IT'S IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.
I'D RATHER SPEND OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS THAN SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE TALK ABOUT.
[10) Consider approval of a resolution amending the approved moderators for the Juneteenth Dialogue for Peace and Progress Event and approving an exception to Resolution No. 1390 to allow a member of the public to serve as a moderator for the event.]
NEXT UP IS GEN ITEM NUMBER 10.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION MEETING THE APPROVED MODERATORS FOR THE JUNETEENTH DIALOGUE FOR PEACE OF PROGRESS EVENTS.
WHAT YOU GOT FOR US? HEY GUYS.
UM, I THINK, UM, WHEN WE SET UP THE JUNETEENTH, UM, WE HAD MYSELF AS A MODERATOR AND OUR LIBRARIAN AS CO-MODERATOR.
UH, THIS, UH, RESOLUTION IS TO, UM, I'M ASKING FOR PERMISSION FROM COUNCIL TO, UM, ALLOW FOR DR.
VANESSA WESTBROOK TO BE A CO-MODERATOR ON DIS JUNETEENTH PIECE IN PROGRESS WITH ME.
AND JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT OF, VANESSA AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER ON NUMEROUS, UH, CITY EVENTS, COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT HAVE DRAWN LARGE CROWDS AND WE'VE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP PROFESSIONALLY AND, UH, ACADEMICALLY.
AND SO WE WORKED TOGETHER ON THE MLK, UM, PROGRAM WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND FOR OUR CITY.
UM, PEOPLE FELT VERY WELCOMED.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT WITH HER EXPERTISE AND HER EXPERIENCE AND A LOT OF HER HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE, SHE WOULD BE A GREAT CO-MODERATOR WITH ME, UH, TO SERVE ON THE PIECE IN PROGRESS FOR JUNETEENTH.
SO THE REASON SHE WASN'T BROUGHT UP THE LAST TIME IS 'CAUSE THE POLICY IS WRITTEN SORT OF NARROWLY, WHICH I'M NOT SURE REALLY IS A VERY EFFECTIVE POLICY AT THIS POINT, BUT THE REQUEST WOULD BE TO ADD DR.
UH, COULD WE ALLOW FOR THE THREE OF YOU, YOU AND THE OTHER MODERATOR TO WORK OUT YOUR, YOUR ROLES? OR DO YOU, ARE YOU ASKING FOR US TO REMOVE AN ALREADY APPROVED MODERATOR? UM, I, WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.
I THINK THAT IT FLOWS, UH, MORE EFFICIENTLY WITH JUST TWO, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE AN HOUR AND WE ONLY GET, REALLY GET SIX QUESTIONS TO THE PANELISTS.
AND SO, UM, UM, I THINK IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE EFFICIENT JUST TO HAVE, UH, MYSELF AS MODERATOR AND VANESSA AS CO MODERATOR.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE OTHER PERSON THAT WE VOTED ON AT THE LAST PERSON AT ABOUT THIS? NOT, NOT YET.
WESTBROOK MAKES A GREAT MODERATOR.
SHE WAS A PART OF THE DIALOGUES FOR, UH, FOUNDING, SO SHE WAS A PART OF IT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S GREAT.
I THINK WHILE WE'RE HERE, SO MAYBE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN, I CAN ANTICIPATE THAT FOR THE HISPANIC DIALOGUES, UH, EVENT COMING FORWARD, THE POLICY ALSO IS SO NARROWLY DEFINED THAT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA, UH, ADD DR.
MIGHT AS WELL GO AHEAD AND, UH, ALLOW FOR COUNCILOR PARSLEY TO BE A MODERATOR AT THAT EVENT.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE REGRETTED ONE OF THOSE YET.
SO I'D LIKE TO DO BOTH OF THOSE, UM, AT THE SAME TIME IF WE CAN, JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE SIMPLER, BUT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO LEAVE THE THIRD PERSON ON THERE UNTIL YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THE ROLES.
SO THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANY OF, ANYTHING LIKE THAT MAY
JUST WANTED TO, THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION.
UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MORE THE MERRIER.
SO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD DR.
WESTBROOK, UH, TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO THE, UH, YOU KEEP LOOKING LIKE YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME SOMETHING.
PLEASE DON'T ARGUE THE RULES ON THE MODERATOR FOR THIS.
WHAT, WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW IS TO APPROVE ADDING DR.
WESTBROOK AND THE EXCEPTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVENT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE HISPANIC HERITAGE EVENT ON HERE RIGHT NOW.
SO WE CAN EITHER BRING BACK THE POLICY AND MAKE OFFICIAL CHANGES LIKE IN THE FUTURE MEETING, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA DO, CHANGE THE POLICY ALTOGETHER MOVING FORWARD.
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WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EVENT THAT WE DO.SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
WESTBROOK, UM, TO THE, UH, DIALOGUES FOR PEACE AND PROGRESS AS AN ADDED MODERATOR, UH, AS WELL AS TO, UH, AS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
AND THEN ALSO TO, UH, ADD, UH, COUNCILOR PARSLEY FOR THE, UH, HISPANIC HERITAGE DIALOGUES, UH, AND MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE WHEN THAT EVENT COMES FORWARD.
SECOND, ALL MOTION BY MAYOR SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEMS THE DISCUSSION ON MOTION.
[11) Consider approval of a resolution authorizing the City Manager to waive all building and permitting fees for the property located on Honey Onyx Trail for Meritage Homes Corporation as part of Operation Homefront.]
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO WAIVE ALL BUILDING PERMITTING FEES FOR THE PROPERTY.
LOCATED ON HONEY ONS TRAIL FOR MERITAGE HOMES, UH, CORPORATION AS PART OF OPERATION HOME FRONT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AMBER SCHS, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.
WE HAVE A COOL PROGRAM FOR YOU.
UM, HERITAGE HOMES HAS PARTNERED WITH THE NONPROFIT OPERATION HOME FRONT TO PROVIDE A MORTGAGE FREE HOME IN THE WATERSTONE CROSSING.
THEY, UH, ASKED THE CITY TO CONSIDER WAIVER OF FEES RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE FOR OPERATION HOME FRONTS.
OPERATION HOME FRONT WOULD SERVE, UM, A VETERAN, DISABLED VETERAN, UM, IN THEIR FAMILY AND PROVIDE THEM A HOME, UM, MORTGAGE FREE.
I DO HAVE, UM, JUSTIN BELMORE HERE WITH MERITAGE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ABOUT, UM, MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
UM, BUT TONIGHT BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
YOU CAN APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE, UH, FEE WAIVER FOR BUILDING AND PERMITTING FEES.
YOU CAN AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO LIMIT THE WAIVER TO SPECIFIC FEES OR ADD OTHER FEES, AND THEN YOU CAN DENY THE RESOLUTION AND REQUIRE PAYMENT OF ALL FEES.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION AS PRO PRESENTED.
IT WOULD MEAN ABOUT $1,700, UM, IN FEES OF BUILDING IN INSPECTION FEES.
AND THIS IS FOR ONE HOME, CORRECT? ONE HOME, YES.
NOT, NOT LIKE, UH, SOMEBODY STATED THAT THEY WERE DOING A WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AND WAIVING FEES FOR IT, LIKE IN NO, UH, WE HEARD IN, UH, THIS IS COMMON.
THIS IS ONE HOME FOR ONE VETERAN, CORRECT? CORRECT.
ONE HOME FOR ONE VETERAN AND THEIR FAMILY.
SO, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THIS COMPANY HERE MAY HAVE SELECTED A VETERAN AND IS CORRECT.
WILLING, JUST BELMORE HERITAGE HOMES FOR THE RECORD GETTING COUNSEL AND THERE, UM,
SO THE, UH, WE'RE THE BUILDER PARTNER FOR THE NONPROFIT.
THE NONPROFIT IS OPERATION HOME FRONT, AND THEY DO THE VETTING AND SELECTING OF THE VETERAN.
UM, THIS IS THE 11TH YEAR THAT WE PARTNERED WITH THIS, UM, THIS NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
UM, WE'RE BUILDING A HOME IN CHARLOTTE AND ONE HERE IN KYLE.
UM, THE VETERAN FAMILY HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED.
THE NONPROFIT GROUP IS SELECTING THOSE APPLICATIONS.
UM, THE, UH, THE VETERANS TYPICALLY HAVE A STORY TO TELL.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN WOUNDED IN COMBAT.
AND, UH, PART OF THE BUILDING OF THE HOME WILL BE MAKING IT A DA COMPLIANT LOWERING THE LIGHT SWITCHES.
RAISING THE PLUGS AND ALL OF THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS.
AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY, UH, TO ASK FOR THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION.
UM, WE'RE DOING A GROUND BANKING EVENT, UH, ON JUNE 17TH.
UH, AND THEN ON THE FALL, ONCE WE GET CLOSER TO, UH, COMPLETION, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAVE THE BIG CEREMONY.
THE FAMILY WILL BE AWARDED THE HOME AND, UM, AND WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MEMBERS FROM THE NONPROFIT THERE AS WELL.
WELL, FROM A SON WHO'S MY FATHER, WHO'S A DISABLED VETERAN.
I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SIR, I'M A VETERAN OF THE MARINE CORPS FOR SEVEN YEARS.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING VETERANS HOMES.
YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HEAR THOSE KIND OF SCENARIOS WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE HOMELESS, THAT ARE VETERANS, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOMEBODY WHO SERVED OUR COUNTRY WITH A HOME TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEM, FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY.
I MEAN, THAT'S VERY HONORABLE AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I, I JUST WANT TO ADD, SO WE'VE HAD, I'M SORRY, MAYOR PRO TIM.
GO, UM, YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE US SEVERAL, SEVERAL TIMES.
COUPLE TIMES, MAYOR, NOT KEEPING COUNT,
THE, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ONE 50 HAS BEEN HAD TONIGHT.
AND I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT THE HERITAGE PROJECT IS ONE OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT I'M NOT SPEAKING OF WHEN I TALK ABOUT PREDATORY DEVELOPMENT, ADDING TRAFFIC, YOUR PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, UH, HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PROJECTS TO HAPPEN EAST ON ONE 50 IN A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT MADE THE WAY FOR THE GO FORTH EXTENSION, WHICH WE ARE VERY HOPEFUL, WILL BE INCLUDED AS A FULLY FUNDED PROJECT IN THE UPCOMING NOVEMBER 20, 24 COUNTY BOND PROGRAM.
NONE OF THAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED.
IT WOULD NOT HAVE PROVIDED, SO IT'S RELIEF ON TRAFFIC FROM ONE 50 AT POST OAK.
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BE ABLE TO TURN SOUTH AND GO STRAIGHT TO ARRINGTON.SO ALL THAT ONE 50, EVERYONE WHO LIVES AT WATER LEAF, IF YOU LIVE AT MERITAGE, UH, RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY PLAN WITHOUT YOUR, WITHOUT YOU WORKING WITH US AND TAKING UNNECESSARY HEAT AS IF YOU WERE ENRICHING YOURSELVES FOR THIS ROAD, WHICH IS YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.
THE, THE, THE, THE, THE RESULT OF THAT ROAD IS GONNA BE THAT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN MARRIAGE DON'T HAVE TO GO UP TO ONE 50 TO GO SOUTH, WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT, BUT NOW THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO STRAIGHT SOUTH TO, TO YARRINGTON AND TAKE THOUSANDS OF VEHICLES OFF OF THAT ROAD.
UH, AND SO I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY, OBVIOUSLY, FOR WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.
UM, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE TRULY BEEN PARTNERS, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE TAKEN A LOT OF, YOU PERSONALLY HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF FLACK, UH, OVER THIS PROJECT.
BUT IT'S COMING TOGETHER IF YOU JUST PERSEVERE LONG ENOUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT, MAYOR, THAT'S THE COMMENT I WANNA MAKE.
MAYOR PRO TEAM, DO YOU HAVE A THOUGHT? YEAH, NO, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING FOR OUR VETERANS.
UH, MYSELF, I'VE GOT A COUSIN, UH, THAT WAS PARTICIPATING IN THE WINDOW WARRIOR PROGRAM.
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN SOME TO THE COMMERCIALS THAT ARE NATIONAL RIGHT NOW.
UH, HE WAS, UH, BURNED IN AN, UH, EXPLOSION, UH, THAT HAPPENED.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T FOR, YOU KNOW, GROUPS THAT GO OUT AND HELP THESE VETERANS.
THEY, THEY DEFINITELY WOULD NEVER HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S COMPLIANT TO THEIR NEEDS.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE DOING.
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, SACRIFICED A LOT FOR US AND NOW ARE LIVING, UH, UH, A DIFFERENT LIFE BECAUSE OF THEM PROTECTING US AND, AND BEING THERE FOR US.
SO, UH, FOR ME IT'S, IT, THIS IS CLOSE TO HOME.
AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS FOR OUR VETERAN, ESPECIALLY A DISABLED VETERAN.
'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UH, THESE, I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE TIME AND THE COMMITMENT THAT OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN MILITARY GIVE TO OUR COUNTRY.
AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN, UH, THEY'RE HURT OR SOMETHING HAPPENS WHILE THEY'RE IN COMBAT OR DURING MANEUVERS, I MEAN, WE NEED TO DEFINITELY DO OUR BEST TO TAKE CARE OF 'EM.
SO I, I DEFINITELY WANT, UH, GET A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THIS.
I ALSO WANTED A FOLLOW UP SAYING, UH, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
IT'S A, A GREAT, UM, HOUSE MORTGAGE FREE FOR, WITH A DA COMPLIANCE FOR OUR VETERANS AND FOR THE THINGS THAT THE MAYOR SAID ALSO ABOUT WATERSTONE, UM, FOR YOUR COLLABORATION FOR THE GOFOR EXTENSION AS WELL.
I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA HELP A FAMILY OUT AND A VERY MUCH NEEDED FAMILY AS WELL.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TOO.
MOTIONS MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA.
MOTION BY, UH, MAYOR PROTO, SECONDED BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT, UH, NINE 30.
WE'RE GONNA DO IT, UH, GETTING REQUEST FOR A BREAK.
CALLING THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER TIME IS 9:33 PM I DO NOT WANNA GO THROUGH ALL FOUR OF THESE PRESENTATIONS.
UH, I THINK I'M GONNA GET OVERRULED THOUGH, SO, ALL RIGHT.
[12) Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on the proposed compensation and benefits plan for fiscal year 2024-2025. ]
ALL RIGHT.RECEIVE YOUR REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON THE PROPOSED COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 25.
TRUE LOVE DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
UM, WE HAVE HERE TODAY, UM, AN OVERVIEW PRESENTATION WHERE WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF RUNDOWN ON WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FOR THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 WITH RESPECT TO, UM, SOME PAIN BENEFITS ITEMS. WE'RE GONNA START WITH A BRIEF SNAPSHOT TO REMIND YOU WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN FISCAL FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COMPENSATION AND A HEALTH PLAN SUMMARY FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
WE DO HAVE FIVE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL POLICY CHANGES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LAYING OUT FOR YOU, UH, THAT WE HOPE TO BRING BACK AT THE JUNE 18TH COUNCIL MEETING.
UH, AND A SUMMARY OF ACTIVITIES FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.
SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, UH, CURRENTLY WE HAVE 363 FTES.
WE HAVE 357 THAT ARE ENROLLED IN OUR HEALTHCARE, UH, 214 EMPLOYEES, 67 DEPENDENTS, 20 UH SPOUSES, AND 43 FAMILIES.
UM, IN FISCAL YEAR 24, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THAT COUNCIL BRIEFING, OR THE, THE PROPOSED BUDGET FROM THE CITY MANAGER FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING FOUR IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WERE RELATED TO HR.
UH, THE FIRST IS IMPLEMENTING SOME EQUITY-BASED SALARY ADJUSTMENTS.
UH, WE DISCUSSED AND DIRECTED STAFF TO INITIATE A COMPENSATION STUDY TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT AS A CITY.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT INITIATING, UH, 4 57 DEFERRED COMPENSATION ADMINISTRATOR PLAN REVIEW.
UH, AND WE TALKED ABOUT EVALUATING THE CITY'S, UH, MEDICAL PLAN FOR SELF-FUNDING.
FOR THE THIRD AND FOURTH ITEM THERE, THE DEFERRED COMP ADMINISTRATOR
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PLAN REVIEW, WE HAVE ISSUED AN RFP AND WE HAVE, UH, PROPOSALS THAT ARE IN PLACE, AND WE'LL BE HOPEFULLY BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU BEFORE THE END OF THE SUMMER.UM, AND THEN FOR THE CITY'S, UH, MEDICAL PLAN, WE DID HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WE DID DO THAT EVALUATION BECAUSE WE ARE SO NEW WITH, UM, THE CHANGES THAT WERE, THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT WERE MADE LAST MADE, UH, LAST YEAR WITH OUR HEALTH PLAN.
WE DON'T HAVE QUITE ENOUGH DATA TO MAKE A CALL FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT THROUGHOUT FISCAL YEAR 25 AND POTENTIALLY COME BACK FOR CHANGES TO THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 26.
SO, TO GO OVER OUR COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS AT THE FOREFRONT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'LL SEE IN THE BUDGET.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT KYLE TO BE A PREMIER EMPLOYEE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE IN THE REGION.
UH, THROUGH THAT, WE'RE GONNA OFFER COMPETITIVE PAY.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, DOING PEER COMPARISONS AND JOB BENCHMARKS.
UH, WE HAVE OUR 10 PEER CITIES THAT WE WILL ALWAYS BE COMPARING OURSELVES TO.
THAT INCLUDES AUSTIN, BUT TO CEDAR PARK, GEORGETOWN, LEANDER, NEW BRAUNFELS, PFLUGERVILLE, ROUND ROCK, SAN ANTONIO, AND SAN MARCO.
UM, WITH OUR COMPENSATION STUDY THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE FINAL RESULTS IN AND, AND IMPLEMENTING, WE HOPE TO HAVE A NEW SALARY GUIDE STRUCTURE WITH PAY GRADES OF JOBS, FAMILIES, AND JOB GROUPS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BE REALLY COMPETITIVE IN THE JOB MARKET.
UH, WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OFFERING, UH, OTHER COMPENSATION AND INCENTIVES TO ASSIST IN RECRUITING.
REALLY, WE WANNA BE THE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE BY OFFERING GREAT PAY, GREAT BENEFITS, GREAT CULTURE, AND GREAT PROJECTS TO WORK ON.
SO, THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN THE CITY MANAGER BRINGS BACK HIS PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, UM, WE'RE ANTICIPATING A 4.5% AVERAGE MERIT INCREASE, UH, IMPLEMENTING, UH, THE POLICE INCREASE, UH, YEAR THREE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MEET AND CONFER CONTRACT, UH, EVALUATING HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS, WHICH WILL BE PRESENTED WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, EXPLORING A POTENTIAL INCREASE FROM THE CITY CONTRIBUTION SIDE TO TMRS. THIS WILL BE A BENEFIT THAT WILL HELP US, UH, PAY DOWN OUR OVER OVERALL LIABILITY SOONER THAN, UM, THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, UH, SCHEDULED OUT.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE SOME FUNDING TO IMPLEMENT ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED THROUGH OUR COMPENSATION STUDY.
UH, WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THAT.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN FUTURE SLIDES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOALS AND WE, WE, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FEW POCKETS OF, OF JOB FAMILIES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS, AND REALLY PARTICULARLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, AS WE MAY NEED TO, TO, TO, WE MAY NEED TO, UH, INCLUDE FUNDING TO ADJUST IN BEYOND THE POLICE STEP THREE, UH, YEAR INCREASE TO KEEP THEM IN THE TOP QUARTILE FOR, UH, OUR MARKET CITIES.
SO WITH THE COMPENSATION STUDY, AGAIN, OUR GOAL HERE IS TO HELP FORMULATE OUR OVERALL COMPENSATION STRATEGY THAT WILL, IN TURN ALLOW US TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN TOP TALENT.
WE CONTRACTED WITH AN INDUSTRY EXPERT, UH, THE SEGAL GROUP TO, UH, BENCHMARK AGAINST OUR 10 PEER CITIES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO INCLUDE HOW WE MIGHT NEED TO MOVE OUR SALARY GRADES AND HOW WE WOULD CREATE THAT, UM, SALARY STRUCTURE IN THE, UH, FOR OUR DIFFERENT TITLES.
UM, OVERALL THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE IN SOLID SHAPE.
UM, THE 20% ACROSS THE BOARD IN FISCAL YEAR 23, AND THE 6% THAT WAS AUTHORIZED FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 REALLY HELPED TO REMEDY MOST OF THE PAY ISSUES THAT WE WERE SEEING.
UM, WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE, I WOULD SAY ABOUT 95% OF OUR PAY RANGES ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR PEER CITY MARKET DATA, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS FOR US.
UM, SOME POSITION PAY RANGES ARE GONNA REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENT, AND SO YOU WILL SEE, UH, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET SOME FUNDING FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE, UM, OF THOSE RECOMMENDED ADJUSTMENTS.
WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO GET THE FINAL INFORMATION OUT, AND, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN TIME FOR THE MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE, JUST AS A REMINDER, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR, WITH OUR HEALTH PLAN.
THESE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
UM, WE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A GOOD HEALTH PLAN FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF INCREASE IN THE UTILIZATION OF THAT FOR, UH, FOR DEPENDENTS.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL, IT'S A GREAT BENEFIT THAT WE'RE OFFERING OUR, OUR EMPLOYEES.
IT, WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT OUR PLAN WILL LOOK LIKE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.
THERE MIGHT BE SOME POTENTIAL FOR INCREASES THERE.
UM, BUT WE WILL WORK TO TRY TO KEEP THOSE, UH, TO AS MINIMAL LEVEL FOR EMPLOYEES AS WE CAN TO TRANSITION INTO SOME OF THE POLICIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, BEFORE I START GOING THROUGH THE DETAILS, I WANNA JUST LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE DID, AS WE WERE GETTING READY FOR THIS, UM, CONVENE WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A GROUP OF CROSS DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES,
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UM, STRATIFIED WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION TO HELP GIVE US FEEDBACK ON THE POLICIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BOTH FOR THE ONES THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE TODAY AND TO CONTINUE TO KEEP ACTIVE AS WE TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL CHANGES THAT WE'LL BE MAKING IN OUR HR POLICIES MOVING INTO THE FUTURE.SO THE FIRST, THE FIRST POLICY THAT WE HAVE IS TO IMPLEMENT A NEW PAID PARENTAL LEAVE POLICY.
UM, THE GOAL OF THIS POLICY WILL TO ALLOW FOR UP TO 12 WEEKS OF PAID PARENTAL LEAVE FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WITH AT LEAST 12 MONTHS OF SERVICE FOR THE BIRTH OF A CHILD, OR A PLACEMENT OF A CHILD FOR FOSTERING OR ADOPTION INTO THE EMPLOYEE'S HOME.
THIS IS GONNA CREATE A FLEXIBLE AND FAMILY, FAMILY FRIENDLY WORKFORCE.
IT'S GONNA CULTIVATE AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE WE CAN ALLOW OUR EMPLOYEES TO THRIVE PROFESSIONALLY WITHOUT HAVING TO SACRIFICE THOSE ESSENTIAL FAMILY OBLIGATIONS.
UM, THIS WILL KEEP US IN LINE WITH, UH, OUR PEER CITIES THAT ALREADY OFFER A PAID PARENTAL LEAVE POLICY, UM, AND WILL CERTAINLY IMPROVE OUR RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION EFFORTS.
UM, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THE BUDGET WHEN WE GO TO, TO IMPLEMENT THIS.
UH, WE'LL BRING THIS BACK AT THE JUNE 18TH MEETING.
REALLY, ALL OF THESE WILL BE BRINGING BACK AT THE JUNE 18TH MEETING, UH, WITH A GOAL OF IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION THERE.
THE NEXT POLICY IS TO REVISE OUR EDUCATION ASSISTANCE PRO.
UH, OUR EDUCATION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM HERE IS, IT'S KIND OF A CLASSIC TUITION REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE PROVIDING REIMBURSEMENT FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES FOR COLLEGE COURSES, FOR AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE, A MASTER'S DEGREE, I'M SORRY, BACHELOR'S DEGREE, MASTER'S PHD DEGREE PLANS, OR FOR COURSES RELATED TO OBTAINING A GED, UM, PERHAPS ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE COURSE, OR A VOCATIONAL EDUCATION CERTIFICATION PROVIDED IT'S RELATED TO, UH, THEIR ROLE HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
UH, OUR GOAL IS TO IMPROVE OUR EMPLOYEE RETENTION BY SHOWCASING THAT PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS A PRIORITY TO US, AND IT WILL ALLOW US TO HELP BUILD OUR INTERNAL TALENT PIPELINE.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE COULD SEE AROUND A A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO $200,000 A YEAR OF DEMAND FOR THIS PROGRAM.
WE'RE GOING FROM A $500 A YEAR, UH, BENEFIT TO, FOR EMPLOYEES TO UP TO $4,000 A YEAR BENEFIT TO EMPLOYEES FOR THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, UH, FOR, FOR COURSEWORK.
UM, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE DEMAND'S GONNA BE, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL SEE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF, OR RECEIVED A LOT OF REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO EMPLOYEES ABOUT THIS.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE WELL RECEIVED BY THE WORKFORCE IN GENERAL ABOUT THAT.
ARE YOU PROPOSING FOR FULL REIMBURSEMENT OF A, UH, COLLEGE DEGREE? NO, IT'S UP TO, IT'S, IT'S UP TO $4,000 PER EMPLOYEE PER PER YEAR.
SO YOU CAN, UM, APPLY FOR APPROVAL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.
YOU HAVE TO, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS MM-HMM.
UH, SO YOU HAVE TO, I THINK YOU HAVE TO GET AN A OR A B IN THE CLASS, UH, FOR FULL REIMBURSEMENT.
AND THEN WE DO REIMBURSE AFTER COMPLETION OF THE COURSEWORK.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON OUR INTERNAL PROCEDURES THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THIS.
UM, BUT WHAT WE HEARD A LOT FROM WHEN THE REIMBURSEMENT LEVEL WAS, WAS AT, AT $500 A YEAR, WE HEARD A LOT THAT PEOPLE JUST, THAT OUR EMPLOYEES WEREN'T WILLING TO GO THROUGH THE PAPERWORK TO GET REIMBURSEMENT.
'CAUSE IT HADN'T KEPT UP WITH THE COST OF, OF HIGHER EDUCATION.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING PACE ON THAT FRONT.
DOES IT HAVE TO BE JOB RELATED SKILL SET THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ENHANCE? I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE I THINK, AN APPROPRIATE, UH, VIEW ON THAT.
UM, SO, UH, WHILE I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE COURSES IN, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE I'M, I'M, I'M HOPING TO GO TO SPAIN NEXT YEAR, AND I WOULD, WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE SPANISH COURSES IF I CAN'T ARTICULATE THAT THAT'S, UM, PART OF MY, OR THERE'S BENEFIT TO THE CITY RIGHT.
THEN THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTION ON THAT.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERTISE IN HOW THESE, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM CAN BE DETERMINED AND HOW IT CAN BE UTILIZED.
AND EVERYBODY WILL GO INTO THIS KNOWING THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO, THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO INTO IT KNOWING THAT BEFORE THEY REGISTER FOR THE CLASS OR AS THEY'RE REGISTERING FOR THE CLASS, IF IT'S AN APPROVED CLASS WITHIN THE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM.
THE WAY I'VE TRIED TO APPROACH THESE IN THE PLA IN THE PAST IS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME JOB FAMILY THAT MAYBE EVEN IF YOU DON'T CURRENTLY DO THAT IN YOUR CURRENT JOB, THAT THE CITY HAS A JOB LIKE THAT YEAH.
THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GO INTO.
SO YOU MIGHT START IN ONE ROLE IN THE ORGANIZATION AS YOU GET MORE TRAINING, MORE EDUCATION, THEN YOU MIGHT BE QUALIFIED TO TAKE ANOTHER ROLE IN THE CITY.
SO AS LONG AS IT'S RELATED TO SOME KIND OF OCCUPATION HERE IN THE CITY ITSELF, THEN THAT WOULD BE, UH, ELIGIBLE THAT MAYBE NOT JEWELRY DESIGN, RIGHT.
I MEAN, I COULD SEE IT LIKE IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO LEARN ENGINEERING AND YOU'RE TAKING A FEW ENGINEERING CLASSES YEAH.
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IS WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A PROMOTION TO MOVE UP.SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING NOW AT IMPLEMENTING A NEW, UM, A NEW VACATION AND SICK LEAVE BUYBACK PROGRAM.
AND THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST OF THE POLICY CHANGES OR THE MOST IMPACTFUL, THE POLICY CHANGES THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT.
UM, SO HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING AN AVENUE FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES TO SELL BLOCKS OF SICK AND VACATION LEAVE BACK TO THE CITY OF KYLE, BLESS YOU ON A BIANNUAL BASIS.
UH, IN NOVEMBER AND MARCH, UH, PAYMENT IS BASED ON, PAYMENT IS BASED ON CURRENT EMPLOYEE SALARY LEVELS AND IS SUBJECT TO ESTABLISH TAXES AND WITHHOLDING REQUIREMENTS.
SO HERE OUR GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH A PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS EMPLOYEES THE OPTION TO CONVERT THEIR UNUSED SICK AND VACATION LEAVE INTO EXTRA INCOME WHILE REDUCING THE CITY'S OVERALL FINANCIAL LIABILITY.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
SO, UM, THIS WILL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LIABILITY THAT WE CARRY ACROSS THE CITY, UM, AND WHEN WE HAVE EMPLOYEES WITH LARGE BALANCES OF UNUSED SICKENED VACATION, THIS IS RECORDED IN OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND THIS WILL ALLOW US TO MAYBE GET OUR ARMS AROUND THAT LIABILITY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, BUDGETARY IMPLICATIONS, HARD TO GAUGE.
IT'S BASED ON EMPLOYEE USAGE, BUT WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND, AND HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR LIABILITY, UM, AT, AT, AT A WORST CASE SCENARIO WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT USAGE.
UH, WELL, WE'LL GET INTO THOSE NUMBERS HERE IN A SECOND.
UM, AGAIN, COUNCIL CONSIDERATION WILL COME AT THE JUNE 18TH MEETING.
SO TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS HERE TO THE CITY OF KYLE FOR THIS LEAD BUYBACK PROGRAM, THE CITY IS FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PAYOUT OF ACCRUED LEAVE BALANCES TO ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES.
UH, THE COST OF THIS TO THE CITY OF THE PAYOUT OF ACCRUED LEAVE COMPOUNDS EACH FISCAL YEAR WHEN IT'S NOT TAKEN HAS, YOU KNOW, WITH MERIT, INCREASED PAY ADJUSTMENTS, PROMOTIONAL PAY ADJUSTMENTS, MARKET PAY ADJUSTMENTS, UH, PAYROLL TAXES AND RETIREMENT CONTRIBUTIONS, UH, TO THE CITY OR BY THE CITY TO TMRS, WE SEE THIS NUMBER COMPOUNDING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
UH, OUR BUYBACK PROGRAM WILL REDUCE OUR EXISTING FINANCIAL LIABILITY FOR COMPENSATED APPROVED LEAVE BALANCES, AND IT WILL MITIGATE OUR FUTURE LIABILITY FOR COMPENSATED LEAVE BALANCES.
UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, AND, AND THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE SMALLER TO READ ON THIS ONE, BUT YOU SEE AN EMPLOYEE WHO MAKES $35 PER HOUR IN 2024 AND OVER 10 YEARS, YOU CAN SEE HOW THEIR, UM, THE COMPOUNDING IMPACT OF WHAT THEIR SALARY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, OVER TIME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ESTIMATED, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ESTIMATED LEAVE PAYOUT LIABILITY OVER OUR 10 YEAR PROGRAM, YOU SEE THAT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE RECORDED IN OUR BOOKS OR ANTICIPATED FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, THAT LIABILITY IS AT ABOUT 5.3 MILLION FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.
IF WE DO NOT DO ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BUYBACK PROGRAM, WE ANTICIPATE THAT LIABILITY CAN GROW TO OVER 9 MILLION IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
IF YOU LOOK AT SAME DATA, BUT SHOWN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THAT LIABILITY LOOKS LIKE OVER THE SAME TIME PERIOD, STARTING AT, UH, ABOUT 5.3 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 25, AND THEN AT THE FAR RIGHT OF THE GRAPH, UM, UP TO 9.2 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 34, UM, THE BLUE BAR SHOWS WHAT THAT LIABILITY COULD LOOK LIKE.
IF WE HAD 25% OF OUR ELIGIBLE WORKFORCE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM.
THE GREEN BAR YOU'LL SEE IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER, AND THAT'S WITH 50% OF OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, PARTICIPATING.
AND THE YELLOW BAR IS, IS IF WE HAD 75% OF ELIGIBLE EMPLOYEES PARTICIPATING IN THIS.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE, THE LIABILITY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE REDUCED OVER TIME, AND THEN THIS GIVES THE BENEFIT TO EMPLOYEES TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, CONTROL OVER HOW THEY'RE GONNA MANAGE THEIR LEAVE BALANCES.
NOW, THERE ARE GUARDRAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
UM, WE DO THE BUYBACK TWO TIMES A YEAR.
UM, WE DO REQUIRE EMPLOYEES TO BE IN GOOD STANDING.
UM, WE DO REQUIRE THAT EMPLOYEES MAINTAIN MINIMUM LEVELS OF SICK AND VACATION.
SO THAT SHOULD ANITA ARISES FOR THAT PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE, THEY DO STILL HAVE SOME BALANCE THERE.
AND IT IS SOLD BACK IN BLOCKS, UH, OF 10 HOUR INCREMENTS.
SO PA THERE, YOU KNOW, UM, HAVE WE GOTTEN INPUT BACK FROM THE EMPLOYEES WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS? OR IS THIS IS THE FIRST PRESENTATION FOR IT? NO, THE OTHER, THE OTHER, THE OTHER CONCERN FOR ME IS, UH, I KNOW THAT I, I, I HAD A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT RETIRED FROM DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY LIKED ABOUT ACQUIRING, UH,
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SICK TIME, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEIR COMP TIME WAS THAT GETTING CLOSER TO RETIREMENT, THEY'RE ABLE TO SELL THAT BACK AND RETIRE EARLIER.SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY OFF THE TABLE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S STILL POSSIBLE? SO FIRST, UM, IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM, SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR, OKAY, THIS VACATION AND SICK LEAVE BUYBACK IS 100% COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY.
UH, YOU CAN BE SOMEONE WHO REALLY LIKES TO HAVE THOSE BALANCES OF SICK LEAVE FOR A RAINY DAY, OR YOU VALUE YOUR VACATION TIME AND YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE THAT TO USE TO SPEND TIME AWAY FROM WORK.
SO IT'S, THERE'S NO MANDATE FOR ANYONE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH EMPLOYEES THAT KIND OF LOVE THIS.
UM, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE, ESPECIALLY OUR TENURED EMPLOYEES, THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE ABILITY FOR PAYOUT, AND I BELIEVE IT'S AT 480 HOURS UPON, UH, LEAVING THE CITY, THEY STILL HAVE ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT.
AND THEY SEE THIS AS A POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, MANAGE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND, UM, RECEIVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA COMPENSATION MAYBE AT SOME CRITICAL TIME PERIODS DURING THE YEAR.
UH, I LIKE THAT IT'S VOLUNTARY, SO, UH, BUT REALLY, UH, I THINK IT GIVES YOU AN OPTION.
LOOK, YOU, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHEN THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND TO HAVE THAT OPTION THERE, UH, IS GREAT BECAUSE WHAT IF THERE'S A MEDICAL EMERGENCY IN YOUR FAMILY NOW YOU CAN NOW, YOU KNOW, USE THIS TIME AND, AND, AND SELL IT BACK AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT EMERGENCY.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND THIS DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM OUR DONATED LEAVE POOL, UM, OR OUR DON OR OUR SICK LEAVE DONATION POLICIES THAT ARE STILL IN PLACE.
UM, SO WE, WE DO STILL HAVE THAT AS A CITY.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT IS BEEN REALLY WELL RECEIVED BY OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO ABOUT THIS.
I, BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD THERE? NO, I, I, I THINK WE'VE HAD, IT FEELS LIKE A DOZEN MEETINGS ON THIS WITH, WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND WORKING WITH THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD.
IT'S A, IT'S ABOUT 20 TO 30 EMPLOYEES.
I CAN'T RECALL THE EXACT NUMBER, LARGE GROUP CROSS SECTION THAT ROSIE TALKED ABOUT.
AND THE JOB FOR THAT COMMITTEE IS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK.
THEY GO BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS AFTER THOSE DISCUSSIONS, DISCUSS WITH THEIR COLLEAGUES AND BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US.
AND WE'VE MADE GOOD CHANGES BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HAD.
UM, I'VE BEEN TO ROLL CALL MEETINGS FOR PD TO TALK ABOUT IT.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO GET OUT THERE AND LISTEN TO EMPLOYEES REALLY, REALLY ON THIS ISSUE.
IT'S GENERALLY BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
AGAIN, IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
IT, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FEW TIMES WHERE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP THE CITY AND HELP EMPLOYEES.
AT THE SAME TIME, IF IT HELPS US MANAGE THAT FINANCIAL LIABILITY GOING FORWARD, IT'S A GOOD THING.
AND, UH, DOES GIVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR EMPLOYEES TO MANAGE THEIR TIME DIFFERENTLY.
SO WE, WE THINK IT'S POSITIVE.
UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF OUR POLICY CURRENTLY BY YOU HAVING ALL THIS TIME THAT BUILDS UP.
IT ALMOST GIVES AN INCENTIVE FOR EMPLOYEES TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY GET PAID FOR THAT TIME WHEN THEY LEAVE.
AND THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO.
BUT IT DOES HAVE, YOU HAVE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
PEOPLE BUILD UP THIS TIME, SAY, HEY, IF I LEAVE, I GET ALL THIS MONEY.
WELL, THAT COULD BE A VERY VALUABLE EMPLOYEE THAT HAS AN EXPERTISE THAT WE NEED AND THEY'VE LEFT THE WORKFORCE AND NOW WE'VE GOTTA TRY TO BRING THEM BACK IN.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
UH, ALSO YOU HAVE PEOPLE NOW THAT, UM, POTENTIALLY DON'T VALUE THEIR SICK LEAVE TIME.
AND SO THEY USE IT VERY, THAT'S VERY, VERY, VERY EASILY.
AND SO NOW WITH THIS KIND OF POLICY TO HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF HOURS YOU HAVE TO HAVE IN YOUR SICK LEAVE BANK TO PARTICIPATE IN A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, YOU'RE GONNA BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL WITH HOW YOU USE THAT TIME TO MAKE SURE YOU, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT.
SO WE THINK THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO IT, UM, FROM LOTS OF DIFFERENT ANGLES AND THE, JUST, AND JUST TO FINISH UP ON MINE AND I'LL BE DONE.
UH, JUST, UM, WE, WE TOOK FEEDBACK FROM SALARY AND HOURLY EMPLOYEES.
AND, AND THE GREAT, I MEAN, WHEN I SAY IT'S A STRATIFIED COMMITTEE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS FROM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, MANAGER, SUPERVISOR DOWN TO FRONTLINE EMPLOYEE, UM, ON THIS.
AND, AND WE, AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE ACTUALLY, IF ANYBODY ON THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE HAPPENS TO BE UP AND WATCHING 'CAUSE THEY KNOW THIS IS GOING ON, THEY HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH.
UM, IT'S BEEN A GREAT WAY TO SEE, UH, EMPLOYEES GET ENGAGED AROUND ISSUES AND TAKE AN ACTIVE ROLE IN HOW WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEADING POLICY CHANGE IN THE CITY.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF FUN TO WORK WITH THEM.
UM, BUT IT, IT IS FOR BOTH EXEMPT AND NON-EXEMPT HOURLY AND SALARIED EMPLOYEES.
UH, WILL ANYTHING BE CHANGING IN REGARD TO WHEN UH, EMPLOYEES START TO EARN PAID TIME AND SICK TIME? NOT WITH THIS CHANGE, I WILL SAY WE HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WANNA LOOK AT WITH RESPECT TO OUR PERSONNEL POLICIES IN THE AGGREGATE.
AND THAT, UM, I THINK THE LEVELS AT WHICH PEOPLE ACCRUE AND THE POINTS AT WHICH THEY CHANGE FROM ACCRUING FOUR HOURS OF VACATION TIME TO 4.5 HOURS OR WHATEVER THOSE STEPS ARE.
UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL LOOK AT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR AS WE LOOK AT KIND OF DOING A REWRITE UPDATE ON OUR PERSONNEL POLICIES.
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IF, IF I COULD JUST PUT SOMETHING ON YOUR RADAR TO, UH, TO CONSIDER IS, YOU KNOW, FOR EMPLOYEES, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS WHO'VE STARTED AROUND THE HOLIDAYS AND DIDN'T HAVE MM-HMM.'CAUSE THEY HAD, WERE STILL IN THAT GRACE PERIOD OF WHEN YEAH.
THEY WERE UNABLE TO EARN, UH, YEAH.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO SEE CONSIDERED THAT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE.
OR HAVING SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THOSE KINDS OF PEOPLE.
'CAUSE IF SOMEONE STARTS AT THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO TAKE, TAKE OFF THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S A HOLIDAY OR DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING IS A HOLIDAY.
LET'S PRETEND IT'S NOT FOR THE SAKE.
LET'S PRETEND IT'S NOT FOR THIS EXAMPLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE THOSE PEOPLE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, TO BE WITH THEIR FAMILIES AROUND THOSE TIMES.
AND, AND JUST TO BE A LITTLE COGNIZANT THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THE REASON PEOPLE GO COME IN AND WORK FOR MUNICIPALITIES IS BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS.
SO ALWAYS BE REAL CAREFUL ABOUT SHAVING ANYTHING ONTO THE BENEFITS, BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY WHAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T PAY LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOES.
SO THE BENEFITS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY KEEPS US, YOU KNOW, KEEPS SOME EMPLOYEES HERE, SIR.
AND THIS IS ONE THAT PEOPLE WILL CONSIDER AS A GREAT BENEFIT TO EMPLOYEES.
THIS IS A NET ADD TO US IS, IS HOW WE SEE IT.
AND, AND AGAIN, IT BENEFITS THE CITY TOO.
BUT, UH, TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER, UM, ONE OF THE FEE, ONE OF THE AREAS WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK IS HOW LONG IT TAKES TO BEGIN TO EARN CERTAIN TIME, CERTAIN NUMBER OF WEEKS OF VACATION.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, ROSIE HER TEAM WE'RE GONNA BE BENCHMARKING TO THE, THESE OTHER 10 CITIES THAT WE LOOK AT TO SEE WHERE ARE THOSE BREAK POINTS AND DO WE NEED TO COME BACK WITH ANY CHANGES? BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A FUTURE POLICY THAT WOULD COME BACK, UH, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS.
I JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THE WHOLE IDEA OF, OF UNLIMITED PAID TIME OFF BECAME VERY POPULAR.
AND WHAT WE ENDED UP LEARNING IS WHEN THE SAMPLE SIZE WAS BIG ENOUGH IS THAT'S ACTUALLY A DETERRENT FOR PEOPLE TAKING OFF, UH, EVEN THE TIME THAT THEY WOULD EARN, UH, WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE UNLIMITED TIME.
BECAUSE THEN IT BECOMES A COMPETITION TO SEE WHO CAN TAKE LESS.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO ACTUAL, UM, SET NUMBER OF DAYS WHERE PEOPLE, UM, ARE TAKING OFF.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THAT WE'RE BEING INNOVATIVE, TRYING TO LIMIT LIABILITY, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE US TO POKE EVERY POSSIBLE HOLE IN THIS WHATSOEVER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT ONE? OKAY.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, IN TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, VACATIONS AND SICK LEAVE BUYBACK PROGRAM THAT IT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IS WHAT WE FEEL LIKE IS A REAL INEQUITY IN HOW OUR EXEMPT AND NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES, UH, ARE ABLE TO ACCRUE TIME.
UM, AND SPECIFICALLY HERE I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, COMP COMPENSATORY TIME OR COMP TIME.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU ARE AN EXEMPT EMPLOYEE AND YOU WORK OVER 40 HOURS IN A WEEK, YOU'RE ABLE TO ACCRUE AT AN HOUR TO HOUR RATE COMP TIME, WHICH GOES INTO A BUCKET THAT YOU CAN USE IN LIEU OF USING SICKER OR SICKER VACATION, WHICH THEN ALLOWS THOSE BUCKETS TO PERHAPS GET MORE FULL THAN THEY WOULD UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF, HAD A LOT OF INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS.
WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR, OUR PEER CITIES ON THIS, AND THIS IS ONE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING A CHANGE TO.
AND THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVELY TO ELIMINATE THE ACCRUAL OF COMPENSATORY TIME FOR EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.
UM, THIS WILL HELP TO CREATE SOME EQUITY BETWEEN OUR EXEMPT AND OUR NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES, UM, EXEMPT WHEN WE'RE WITH THE RECOGNIZING THAT OUR EXEMPT EMPLOYEES LIKELY HAVE A BUCKET OF SOME SORT.
IT'S EITHER FULL DOWN HERE OR MAYBE FULL UP HERE, UH, OF COMP TIME THAT THEY'VE ACCRUED.
SO WE'RE LAYING OUT A POLICY CHANGE THAT WOULD SAY, EFFECTIVE WITH THE PAY PERIOD ENDING ON JULY 6TH, WE'RE GONNA ELIMINATE ACCRUAL OF COMP TIME FOR EXEMPT EMPLOYEES AND THEN ALLOW THOSE EXEMPT EMPLOYEES TO EITHER HAVE A PAYOUT OF THAT, UM, IN JULY OR A PAYOUT OF THAT THEY CAN, OR THEY CAN HOLD IT AND USE IT OVER THE SUMMER TO GO WHEREVER PEOPLE GO.
UM, AND, AND RECEIVE A PAYOUT OF THAT, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AGAIN, THE GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE A FAIR AND EQUITABLE LEAVE ACCRUAL POLICY, UH, FOR BOTH EXEMPT AND NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.
WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO OUR PEER CITIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, WE COULD ONLY FIND ONE THAT HAD IN, AND THAT WAS BUTTA, UM, THAT HAD ANY KIND OF, UH, COMP TIME POLICY FOR EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.
UM, SO THIS IS GOING TO, UM, REALLY EMPOWER EMPLOYEES TO MANAGE THEIR LEAVE RESPONSIBILITY, CORRECTING WHAT WE FEEL LIKE ARE INEQUITIES WITH OUR CURRENT TIMEKEEPING MODEL, UM, AND CREATE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCE IN HOW WE HAVE OUR SYSTEMS THERE.
AND IT WOULD BE PAID OUT WITH FISCAL YEAR 24 FUNDING.
UH, SO IT WOULDN'T IMPACT THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT, UH, SALARY EMPLOYEES DON'T CREATE, DON'T
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GET ANY COMP TIMES.SO SAY THEY CORRECT, THEY WORK A FULL WEEK AND THEN WE'VE GOT 'EM THE WHOLE WEEKEND FOR A SPECIAL EVENT TO OH, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT NEXT.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M, I'M KIND OF READING INTO THIS NEXT POLICY THAT WE'RE GONNA TELL THEM, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE GONNA WORK FOR FREE.
WE, WE WILL, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO ADDRESS THAT VERY ISSUE THAT YOU BRING UP.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY TO ADDRESS THE, YOU KNOW, I, AS PART OF MY JOB AS A DIRECTOR IS TO, TO STAY HERE AND TO WORK UNTIL NOW IT'S 10 O'CLOCK ON A THURS ON A TUESDAY, UH, FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
AND IT REALLY SHOULDN'T MEAN THAT I EARN ANY EXTRA MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF MY JOB.
AND, AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THE EXPECTATION WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, UH, AND OUR PEER CITIES ABOUT WHEN YOU GET TO THAT LEVEL, YOU HAVE YOUR AFFORDED TYPICALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHER SALARY, MORE RESPONSIBILITY, BUT ALSO MORE LATITUDE IN HOW YOU SET YOUR SCHEDULE AND HOW YOU FLEX YOUR TIME.
HAVING THIS IDEA OF ACCRUING COMP TIME REALLY CREATES AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HOURLY OR LOWER PAID EMPLOYEES DON'T HAVE.
SO AGAIN, TRYING TO CORRECT AN INEQUITY THERE.
JUST A, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THAT IF, IF I COULD.
UH, I, I THINK THE FIRST THING IS, UM, IT'S NOT OFFERED IN OTHER PLACES COMP TIME.
IT'S VERY, IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A FOREIGN CONCEPT.
I KNOW FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND I THINK FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE TEAM THAT'S COME IN, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT IS THIS? HOW DOES IT WORK? IT'S VERY UN UNUSUAL.
AND I, I THINK THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TO WORK LATE ON A WEDNESDAY NIGHT OR A FRIDAY NIGHT, OR THERE'S A LA A LINE BREAK, AND THEY'VE GOTTA DO CERTAIN THINGS ANYTIME IN THAT PAYROLL.
WE WANT TO HAVE THE, THE SUPERVISORS HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO SAY, HEY, YOU WORKED LATE ON WEDNESDAY, TAKE OFF EARLY ON FRIDAY IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT, TO KIND OF WORK WITH THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME SPECIAL, SPECIAL SITUATIONS OF, THERE'S TECH EXTRAVAGANZA, THERE'S PIE IN THE SKY, THERE'S A BIG EVENT.
WE HAD A VERY GOOD ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE ABOUT IT AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE WANT A POLICY THAT GIVES ME THE ABILITY TO SAY, IN THOSE PARTICULAR CASES, THE CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE AN EXCEPTION BECAUSE IT'S A ALL HANDS ON DECK, UM, EVENT.
OR IT'S A SNOWMAGEDDON OR IT'S A, I HATE TO USE THAT TERM,
THAT WAS DEFINITELY, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CALAMITY IN THE CITY AND FOR TWO WEEKS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S EVERYBODY WORKING TO DO WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO BE DONE.
THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE HAVE A, A POLICY SHE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT.
BUT FOR MOST OTHER THINGS, JUST WITHIN THAT PAYROLL CYCLE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FLEX THEIR TIME A LITTLE BIT WITH THEIR SUPERVISOR AND FIND THE, THE A SITUATION THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, I THINK THOSE UNUSUAL EVENTS ARE KIND OF THE ONE-OFFS WHERE I THINK WE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MANAGE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS ADDRESS THE POINT.
SO, SO SALARY FOR ME IS A SALARY EMPLOYEE.
WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SALARY EMPLOYEE, SO WE'VE GOT A SALARY EMPLOYEE THAT MAKES MAYBE 70 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT THE SAME AS A SALARY EMPLOYEE MAKING A HUNDRED TO $200,000 OR 200 TO $250,000.
THAT'S TOTALLY TWO DIFFERENT, THREE DIFFERENT SCALES.
SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE 70 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, SALARIED EMPLOYEE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY CONCERN IS RIGHT THERE.
'CAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT LEVEL FIELD FROM, LOOK, HONESTLY, UH, A HUNDRED SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS, 200,000 EMPLOYEE WORKING A COUPLE MORE HOURS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT ONE EMPLOYEE WORKING MAKING 70,000 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND THAT'S WHERE I, I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS.
WELL, I, I THINK IN THE, AND I HEAR YOU, UH, SIR, AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I, I THINK WHERE WE NEED TO LOOK, LOOK AT FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES IS MAKING SURE THEY HAVE A REASONABLE WORK WEEK.
AND IF WE'VE GOT FOLKS THAT ARE BEING ASKED TO DO MORE THAN WHAT WE THINK IS JUSTIFIED BY THAT POSITION, THEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT ADDING MORE PEOPLE CHANGING PROCESSES OR DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
I THINK SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH COMP TIME IS THERE'S A LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
IT'S HARD TO TRACK, IT'S HARD TO VERIFY.
WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE ALL THE HOURS ARE ALWAYS BOOKED THE RIGHT WAY.
THEY'RE NOT BOOKED CONSISTENTLY BETWEEN ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
AND, UM, AND IT'S ALSO NOT A BEST PRACTICE.
AND SO THAT'S THE, THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM AND I THINK US WORKING WITH OUR EMPLOYEES TO ADDRESS THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.
IF WE SEE AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S MAKING $65,000 A YEAR AND THEY'RE WORKING 75 HOURS A WEEK EVERY WEEK, WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND WE, WE CAN'T DO THAT TO OUR PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S NOT THE CULTURE WE WANT TO CREATE.
UH, WE WANT TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IF WE SEE IT ONE-OFF KINDS OF THINGS, YOU GOTTA COME IN TO EXTRA HOURS TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS 'CAUSE IT'S YOUR JOB.
BUT, BUT NOT A, A CULTURE LIKE THAT.
YEAH, JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS SORT OF BEING REVISED.
UH, I CAN SEE HOW, WELL THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER PEER CITY THAT, UM, HAD THIS CORRECT.
SO, UM, I COULD SEE WHERE IT DOES CAUSE A LOT OF, UM, INCONSISTENCY.
YOU'RE ALREADY HIGH SALARIED AND THEN YOU'RE GETTING AN EXTRA COMPENSA COMPENSATION ON YOUR TIME FOR HOURS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE THERE ANYWAY.
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MM-HMM.SO, AND SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T EARN THAT HIGH SALARY ISN'T GETTING THAT EXTRA COMP TIME.
SO, UM, I'M GLAD THAT THIS WAS BEEN REVISED TO BE, UH, FAIRER MOVING FORWARD.
SO THE LAST, UH, POLICY THAT WE HAVE IS WHAT BRIAN WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS THIS CONCEPT OF, CAN I JUST ADD HOW LONG? OH, OF COURSE.
HOW LONG WAS THAT OCCURRING? LONG TIME, FOREVER.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THE POLICY'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
I, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I KNOW WE, WE HAVE A FEW FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT IT USED TO BE A CAP OF 80 HOURS.
AND DURING THE PANDEMIC, UH, IT WAS REVISED UP TO ONE 60, BUT THE POLICY WAS NEVER CHANGED.
PERSONNEL POLICY WAS NEVER UPDATED.
BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED SOMETHING AT THAT TIME.
I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN AROUND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA FOR, FOR MANY YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN IT STARTED, BUT IT'S BEEN SOME TIME.
I'M SURE IT WASN'T ABUSED, BUT IT'S JUST NOT, NOT GOOD PRACTICE.
UM, BUT WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE OCCASIONS LIKE WHAT WE HAD A COUPLE WEEKENDS AGO WITH THE, WITH THE TRO ENZA, UM, WHERE WE NEED ALL HANDS ON DECK, WHERE IT'S AN EXCEPTIONAL EVENT FOR THE CITY OF KYLE FOR THE WORKFORCE.
AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CREATED, UH, A NEW EXCEPTION VACATION POLICY WHERE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S DISCRETION AND HIS DIRECTION, WE CAN ALLOW OUR EXEMPT EMPLOYEES TO ACCRUE HOUR TO HOUR, UH, COMP TIME WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME WITHIN CERTAIN PARAMETERS.
SO IT'S NOT, I'VE DECIDED TO COME IN ON THE WEEKEND AND CHECK MY EMAILS, AND I'M GONNA BUILD A CITY FOR SOME ADDITIONAL COMP TIME ON THAT.
IT'S A COMMUNITY EVENT LIKE KYLE FAIR.
UM, SO AGAIN, WE WILL, WE'LL LOOK AT THIS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IT, THIS PARTICULAR LEAVE BANK.
IT WILL ACT JUST LIKE REGULAR VACATION.
UM, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SELL IT BACK JUST LIKE REGULAR VACATION.
BUT WE DO HAVE A CAP ON THIS RIGHT NOW IN THE POLICY OF 40 HOURS.
IF WE SEE THAT THAT 40 HOUR CAP IS NOT SUFFICIENT BASED ON EVENTS AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE ACCRUE AT EVENTS, THEN WE CAN ALWAYS ADJUST THAT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT THE IDEA IS TO CREATE THAT ABILITY TO FACILITATE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, RIGHT.
UH, ACROSS MAYBE A COUPLE OF PAY PERIODS.
UM, AND STILL KEEP TO THE, THE FEELING OF EQUITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DISPLAY.
NOW, THIS AGAIN, IS EXEMPT EMPLOYEES.
OUR NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES ARE STILL ELIGIBLE TO EARN OVERTIME.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY WOULD PREFER TO EARN COMP TIME AS OPPOSED TO OVERTIME.
SO IN THAT, THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE PERSONNEL POLICIES, THAT'S ONE OF THE LINES IS TO HOW WE CAN ALLOW, UH, OUR NON-EXEMPT EMPLOYEES TO EARN COMP TIME INSTEAD OF JUST GET PAID OVER TIME.
SO, UH, FISCAL YEAR 25 HIGHLIGHTS, UM, GOING FORWARD, I, AS I SAID AT THE TOP OF THE PRESENTATION, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, AN AVERAGE 4.5% MERIT INCREASE.
UM, POLICE, STEP THREE, UH, EVALUATING OUR HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS AND TMRS CONTRIBUTIONS.
UM, WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE LOOKING AT THOSE REVISIONS TO THE PERSONNEL POLICIES OVERALL.
UM, TAGGING IN THERE, THE EMPLOYEE EVALUATION SYSTEM, WHAT WE HAVE HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD BE A BEST PRACTICE UPDATE TO THAT.
UM, WE WILL START, MEET AND CONFIRM NEGOTIATIONS WITH, UH, WITH THE POLICE IN JANUARY OF 2025.
UH, WE'LL ALSO SPEND THE FISCAL YEAR CONTINUING TO EVALUATE OUR INSURANCE PLAN FOR THE FEASIBILITY OF SELF-FUNDING.
UH, AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION OF THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY.
SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL, WE'LL HAVE BY, BY THE TIME THE BUDGET IS ADOPTED OR WE GET INTO FISCAL YEAR 25, WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION STUDY IMPLEMENTED OR BE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING THAT.
UM, YOU'LL HAVE THAT DEFERRED COMPENSATION PLAN REVIEW, UH, WITH AWARD THIS SUMMER.
AND THEN IMPLEMENTING OUR NEW POLICIES.
UH, WE PLAN TO BRING THESE BACK ON JUNE 18TH FOR A MORE FORMAL ADOPTION, UH, WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING THEM HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION DATE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS COMMUNICATING THOSE AND GETTING THE ENTIRE WORKFORCE, UM, AWARE OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING.
WE MADE THAT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
IT WAS COUNCIL SLOWING YOU DOWN.
WELL, I THINK, UH, SO I PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE, THAT WE COULD PROBABLY WAIT ON MELISSA'S PLACEMAKING ITEM.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM JESSE NEXT, RIGHT? JESSE? NEXT?
WELL, WE, NO, I THINK JESSE'S FOR SURE CAN BE WAIT, POSTPONED THE COMMITTEE'S, UH, ITEM FOR PLACEMAKING.
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CONSULTANT HERE FOR THAT.SO WE, WE COULD BRING, WE CAN BRING, LET'S DO IT.
FOR WHOSE PRESENTATION? I DID NOT KNOW THAT.
SO JUST ADJUSTING THE FACIL, THE FACILITIES, UH, THE FACILITIES PLAN.
WE CAN WAIT ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
SO I KNOW, I KNOW YOU GOT A LOT COMING FORWARD, BUT THERE'S TIME.
[15) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on Placemaking, Roundabouts, Wayfinding, and Beautification of Gateways. ]
SO LET'S MOVE TO THE FINAL, MY PROPOSED FINAL ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION, UH, ON PLACEMAKING, ROUNDABOUTS WAY, FINDING AND BEAUTIFICATION OF GATEWAYS.
THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT ENDING ITEM FOR OUR COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT.
I'M REALLY EXCITED, UM, TO BRING, UM, MARISSA FROM COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES.
WE, UM, HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL OF OUR ROAD BOND PROJECTS.
WE HAVE 13 NEW ROUNDABOUTS PLANNED, UH, JUST IN OUR ROAD BOND PROJECTS.
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, THREE ON KOHLERS, UH, ROAD.
AND WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT UPDATING AND ENHANCING SOME OF OUR GATEWAYS IN PLACE, MA SCHEME, UH, FEATURES.
UH, SO HERE'S A PRESENTATION THAT MARISSA HELPED PUT TOGETHER.
WE'RE HOPING TO LOOK AT HAVING A HOLISTIC KIND OF GATEWAY, UM, PROGRAM TO ADDRESS OUR, UM, 16 NEW ROUNDABOUTS THAT WE'RE DOING FOR PLACEMAKING.
AND THEN ALSO REALLY ENHANCING SOME OF OUR RIGHT AWAYS AND GATEWAYS, FM ONE 50 FOR ONE, UM, KOHLER'S CROSSING, UM, DOING SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL UPDATES.
SO WITH THAT, MARCEL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO, UH, GO THROUGH THE, THE PROGRAM FOR REARRANGING UP HERE.
SO, YES, I'M MARISSA MCKINNEY.
I AM THE MANAGING PARTNER AT COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES.
UM, YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF OUR WORK AT THE AWARD-WINNING MARY KYLE HARTSON PARK, AND WE'RE SO HAPPY TO BE BACK HERE IN KYLE.
SO I HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH MELISSA, UM, ABOUT THE ROUNDABOUT IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UH, IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
UM, THESE ARE THE LOCATIONS OF THE CURRENTLY APPROVED ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE GOING, THEY'RE IN ENGINEERING.
UM, AND I ALSO INCLUDED A LINK, UM, TO THE FACT THAT I, IN DIGGING REALLY DEEP INTO ROUNDABOUTS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE US AND ALL OVER THE WORLD, UM, THAT THERE WAS A LOVELY ARTICLE WRITTEN ABOUT HOW ROUNDABOUTS LOWER EMISSIONS.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CITY, KYLE, ABOUT DOING OUR PART FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON OPTIONS AND COMBINATIONS FOR THE ROUNDABOUTS, UM, USING PLANTING AND STRATEGIES, UH, PLANTING STRATEGIES, AND ZERO ESCAPING, UM, USING ART AND ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHICS, UH, SIGNAGE AND BRANDING.
AND THEN TAKING YOUR CURRENT SIGNAGE FAMILIES AND LOOKING AT HOW WE MAY EVOLVE THOSE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND WHEN I TALKED TO THE ENGINEER ABOUT THESE, HE WAS TRYING TO DESCRIBE LIKE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WITH THE ROUNDABOUT BEAUTIFICATION.
AND I FINALLY SAID, SO WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE 13 ROUNDABOUTS AND MAKE EACH OF THEM LOOK UNIQUE.
THEY'LL EACH HAVE UNIQUE ENTRIES, EXITS, SIZING, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN KYLE WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL 13 OF THESE ROUNDABOUTS AND YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE IN KYLE BASED ON THE ROUNDABOUT THAT YOU ARE DRIVING THROUGH.
UM, AND SO THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A UNIFIED LOOK THROUGHOUT ALL OF THEM WHILE MAKING SURE THAT EACH OF THEM STILL REMAINS UNIQUE.
SO THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO DO THIS.
UM, WE'VE, A LOT OF THIS IS PICTURES TONIGHT.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF WORDS, SO WE GET TO END WITH THAT.
UM, PLANTING STRATEGIES AND ZEROSCAPE IS ONE OF THE, UM, WAYS THAT YOU CAN GO ABOUT THESE.
SO THE NEXT SERIES OF PICTURES IS GONNA SHOW HOW WE USE GRAVEL PLANTING, UM, TURF WILDFLOWER AREAS TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THESE IS UNIQUE.
UM, THAT, THAT TOP LEFT PICTURE I LOVE 'CAUSE IT REMINDS ME OF WHEN I'M IN WYOMING, THAT I DEFINITELY SEE THAT LANDSCAPE RIGHT THERE.
AND I PULLED AGAIN FROM ROUNDABOUTS, REALLY ALL OVER THE WORLD.
UM, SO SOME OF THESE YOU'LL SEE PALM TREES IN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION WE GO, BUT, UM, IT'LL ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR, UM, US TO KIND OF EXPLORE ALL OF THE IDEAS WHILE WE NARROW IN ON WHAT WE WE MAY WANNA DO IN THE FUTURE.
UM, SO THERE'S OUR PALM TREE EXAMPLE AGAIN, BUT USING DIFFERENT MATERIALS, UM, DIFFERENT NATURAL MATERIALS TO MAKE EACH OF THESE, UH, UNIQUE.
AND SO BY FOCUSING ON PLANTING AND STR PLANTING STRATEGIES IN ZEROSCAPE, UM, WE USE A STRONG PLANTING DESIGN TO CREATE A STRUCTURE AND IDENTITY AT THE ROUNDABOUTS.
UM, THE ONE IN THE TOP LEFT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, WHICH YOU WOULD KNOW BECAUSE IT HAS THE SORT OF BURNT ORANGE PLANTING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, THE USE OF LOCAL STONE TO CREATE VERTICAL CHANGE.
SO THE ONE ON THE TOP RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE IT'S KIND OF MOUNDED UP THERE A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE A, THE THIRD PLANE TO, UM, TO PLAY WITH HERE.
UM, THE IMPORTANCE OF SEASONAL COLOR AND INTERESTS.
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HAS THOSE RED BUDS IN THERE THAT REALLY POP, UM, AND THE USE OF GRAVEL TO REDUCE IRRIGATION AND MAINTENANCE THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE TO PERFORM IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.SO THE NEXT ITEM IS A FOCUS ON ART AND ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHICS.
UM, SO AGAIN, EACH OF THESE IS UNIQUE, UM, AND FOCUSES ON PUBLIC ART INSTALLATION OR, UM, SOME SORT OF GRAPHIC THAT ANCHORS EACH OF THESE ROUNDABOUTS IN, IN A VERY UNIQUE WAYS.
UM, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS, IT CAN BE LAND ART.
THE LOWER LEFT IMAGE IS SORT OF JUST THIS MOUNDING WITH THE WALLS THAT HAPPENS.
UM, SAME WITH LIKE THE SECOND ONE OVER TO THE RIGHT.
UM, BUT SOME OF THEM, AS YOU CAN SEE, ARE VERY ELABORATE ART PIECES THAT WERE COMMISSIONED, UM, THAT ARE PART OF THIS.
AND SO THESE, YOU CAN CONNECT WITH LOCAL ARTISTS, YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT WHAT'S SPECIAL IN KYLE, UM, WITH EACH OF THESE ROUNDABOUTS, UM, AND INJECT COLOR AND PERSONALITY.
AND ACTUALLY BEND, OREGON HAS AN ENTIRE WEBSITE AND PROGRAM DEDICATED TO ART AND ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHICS WITHIN THEIR ROUNDABOUTS.
UM, SO A LOT OF THESE EXAMPLES ARE PULLED FROM, UH, THE BEND OREGON PROGRAM, UM, WHICH IS WHAT THEY CHOSE TO FOCUS ON.
AND AN EXAMPLE OF THIS THAT I THOUGHT OF WAS, UM, OUR WORK ON THE TEXAS CAPITAL MALL.
UH, WE WORKED WITH TWO DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTAL GRAPHICS, UM, GENTLEMEN TO TAKE THE FLORA AND FAUNA OF TEXAS AND INTERJECT THAT ONTO THE MALL.
AND THESE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY POPULAR.
THE ONE THAT'S MISSING IS A BLUEBONNET.
UM, BUT THESE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY POPULAR WITH ENGAGING THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG PUBLIC, UM, IN GETTING THEM OUT TO THE CAPITOL MALL AND CREATING AN IDENTITY, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU ARE ON THE MALL BASED ON WHICH FLORA AND FAUNA THAT ARMADILLO IS CREEPY.
AND THERE WAS A LITTLE PROBABLY 2-YEAR-OLD KID ON THE TOUR WHO WALKED UP AND HELD ITS HAND.
AND, UM, SO THERE, IT'S A GREAT, UM, IDENTITY FEATURE FOR, FOR THE MALL COMPLEX.
SO THE LAST ONE TO GO OVER IS, UM, SIGNAGE AND BRANDING THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THESE.
Y'ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE ON SOME OF THE FOLLOWING SLIDES, UM, THE KYLE SIGN THAT IS IN THE MARKETPLACE IN BURLESON ROUNDABOUT.
UM, AND SOME OF THESE, LIKE THE SOUTH BEND EXAMPLE, VERY LARGE, VERY ELABORATE.
UM, BUT SOME OF THEM, LIKE THE TAHOE CITY EXAMPLE CAN BE SIMPLE BUT VERY OF THE PLACE.
UM, THAT'S A ROUNDABOUT THAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH.
THAT'S THE PART OF THE COUNTRY I GREW UP IN.
UM, AND WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND LAKE TAHOE, THAT'S THE SORT OF SIGNAGE THAT YOU SEE.
UM, SO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE IN EACH OF THESE AREAS.
UM, THE EXAMPLE IN SORT OF THE TOP CENTER THERE IS THE STAR.
UM, WE SEE THAT IN A LOT OF PLACES THROUGHOUT TEXAS AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN IN THE LOWER RIGHT, AN EXAMPLE OF A VERY SIMPLE RAISED GRAPHIC THAT INDICATES WHERE YOU ARE IN PLACE AND TIME.
AND THEN LO THE LOWER LEFT OBVIOUSLY IS THE MARKETPLACE IN BURLESON ROUNDABOUT.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ROUNDABOUT BEFORE WE IMPLEMENTED THE LANDSCAPING THERE.
I ACTUALLY, WE INITIALLY PUT LANDSCAPING IN THERE AND, AND THEN IT ALL DIED.
AND SO NOW WE'VE PUT NEW LANDSCAPING IN THERE.
I, MELISSA AND I DISCUSSED THAT AND I DROVE BY IT TONIGHT ON MY WAY FROM THE OFFICE.
SO THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS IS, UM, CREATING THESE SORT OF GATEWAYS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I'VE TALKED WITH MELISSA ABOUT, UM, VARIOUS AREAS OF TOWN WHERE AS YOU EXIT OFF OF I 35, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN, YOU'VE ENTERED KYLE.
UM, AND SO SOME OF THAT I THINK IS LOOKING AT YOUR SIGN FAMILY AND HOW DO WE EVOLVE THAT AND HOW DO WE CREATE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SIGNS FOR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.
SO WE'VE GOT THE KYLE SIGN AT MARK MARKET, UH, MARKETPLACE IN BURLESON.
WE'VE GOT THE OTHER, UM, THE LOWER RIGHT SIGN.
AND SO THE TOP EXAMPLES ARE, YOU KNOW, REALLY CONTEMPORARY SIGNAGE AT THE NEW VETERANS PARK, UM, THAT HAS VERY CONTEMPORARY SIGNAGE.
THE EXAMPLE ON THE LEFT IS REALLY MORE SORT OF WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TRADITIONAL SIGNAGE.
SO HOW DO WE TAKE THE KYLE BRAND AND THE KYLE LOGO AND CONTINUE TO EVOLVE THAT INTO A SERIES OF SIZE OF, UM, OF SIGNS THAT WE COULD PUT, UM, IN THE ROUNDABOUT IN AND AROUND THE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT ALSO IN OTHER KEY GATEWAY LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND THIS CONTINUES ON THAT THEME.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE WORKED, THIS WAS MANY YEARS AGO, BUT LOOKING AT THE I 35 AND CENTER STREET LOCATION, UM, ABOUT HOW WE, THERE MAY BE AN, UH, ABLE TO INCORPORATE A LARGE SCALE KYLE SIGN, UM, WHICH I DON'T THINK EVER MATERIALIZED, BUT THAT'S THE GRAPHIC IN THE LOWER LEFT.
UM, AND HOW PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY COME AND INTERACT.
I WOULD WITH THAT SIDE, I WOULD LOVE TO BRING THAT PROJECT BACK TOGETHER.
IT, IT LANGUISHED FOR REASONS NOT CONNECTED TO YOU GUYS, BUT IT WOULD BE NEAT.
'CAUSE THAT'S, DO Y'ALL KNOW WHERE THAT IS? ON THE BOTTOM LEFT WHERE THAT'S
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PROPOSED, IT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO CASA MARIA IS THAT EMPTY LOT.THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL AT ONE POINT TO HELP FUND A MAJOR MONUMENT ENTRANCE SIGN MM-HMM.
AND THEN FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS IT STALLED OUT.
BUT THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO PURSUE AGAIN IF WE WANTED TO.
AND HOW WE TAKE THE, AGAIN, THAT WAS VERY MUCH OF THE LANGUAGE OF THE KYLE LOGO.
IT'S, IT WAS GREAT HOW YOU COULD SIT ON IT AND TAKE PICTURES, THE WHOLE THING.
BE A GREAT ENTRANCE FOR THE CITY.
UM, AND THE, I REMEMBER THAT THE OTHER EXAMPLES WE SHOWED THERE ARE JUST AGAIN, HOW THESE SIGN FAMILIES ITERATE, UM, OVER TIME AND AT DIFFERENT SCALES.
UM, AND THEN THE LOWER RIGHT EXAMPLE WE PULLED FROM ONE OF OUR PROJECTS THAT EVOLVED OVER A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, THE AVERY RANCH DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THIS FRONT ENTRY SIGN WAS KIND OF THE FIRST PIECE THAT WE DESIGNED.
AND THEN THE OTHER SIGNS THAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WERE DEVELOPED OVER TIME.
BUT THE SIGN FAMILY, EVEN THOUGH EACH OF THE SIGNS IS DIFFERENT, UH, THE SIGN FAMILY READS VERY UNIFIED.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, WE ALREADY HAVE, WELL ESSENTIALLY MAYBE SHOWING KIND OF THE UPDATED LANDSCAPING THAT WE DID HAVE, BUT MARISSA HAD A GOOD IDEA OF MAYBE WE SHOULD COLOR THE KYLE TO KIND OF MATCH THE STARS ON OUR, UH, BUTTER BLOCKS THAT WE HAVE THERE THAT IT COULD HELP KIND OF POP AND BRING THOSE TWO IDEAS TOGETHER KIND OF CURRENT.
SO THAT COULD BE A REALLY QUICK, QUICK UPDATE, QUICK KIND OF UPDATE FOR THAT.
SO, UM, HONESTLY, WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK, UH, FROM YOU GUYS ON THIS.
I THINK WE'RE HOPING TO, UH, CONTINUE AND, AND REALLY WORK, UM, ON A, ON A CONTRACT TO WORK WITH COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES.
UH, WE ORIGINALLY KIND OF LINKED UP WITH THEM THROUGH THE ROAD BOND PROJECT THROUGH K FREEZE, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER GATEWAY FEATURES ON THIS.
SO KIND OF, UH, CONTINUING THAT AND, AND PUTTING SOME OF THESE WAVE FINDING AND PLACE MAKING ELEMENTS INTO THAT AND, AND A WHOLE PACKAGE TOGETHER, UH, FOR THAT.
WELL, SO THE REASON THAT THE ROUNDABOUT AT BURLESON ALL FELL APART AND THE GREAT LANDSCAPING THAT WAS PUT IN THERE INITIALLY FELL APART IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER IRRIGATION AND DRAINAGE INSTALLED.
SO ARE WE BEING SURE THAT IN THE SCOPE OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE ROUNDABOUTS, THAT WE ARE SETTING THEM UP FOR GREAT LANDSCAPING AND ART? IS THERE SOMEONE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T DO WHAT WE DID IN 2013, WHICH IS PUT LANDSCAPING IN AND THEN NOT BE ABLE TO WATER IT? YEP.
SO I WILL SAY ALL, ALL THE ROUNDABOUTS AND WE'LL WORK, UM, WITH THAT.
SO I THINK AS SOME OF THE, THE PROJECT COSTS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE TO REALLY DESIGN, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC LANDSCAPING FOR EACH ROUNDABOUT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT.
BUT ALL THE ROUNDABOUTS IN GENERAL, ALTHOUGH BEING DESIGNED BY ENGINEERS ARE, ARE BEING LOOKED AT FOR HAVING IRRIGATION AND ELECTRICITY INTO, UM, ALL OF THOSE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR POLICY IN THE, IN THE PROJECT SCOPE DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, AS, AS MELISSA MELISSA SAID, THEY'LL HAVE THE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE ROUNDABOUT AREA.
AND THEN OUR PLAN IS TO WORK WITH COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES TO DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, PLANS FOR EACH ONE THAT TIES IN ALL THESE VARIOUS ELEMENTS IN A VERY ARTISTIC WAY THAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO KIND OF GOING THROUGH A PROFESSIONAL, UH, PROCESS TO DO THAT.
BUT IT WOULD HAVE ALL THESE, THE DRAINAGE THAT ONCE IT'S IN, IT'S GOING TO LOOK NICE AT THE BEGINNING WHEN IT'S INSTALLED.
AND THEN MANY YEARS INTO THE FUTURE AS WELL.
WE WANT TO HAVE IT LONGEVITY FOR EVERY SITE.
COUNCILLOR HARRIS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, I, I'M REALLY AN ADVOCATE FOR IS OUR DARK SKIES.
AND I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT ALL LIGHTING SHOULD BE DOWN LIT.
IT SHOULD NOT BE FRONT LIT OR UP LIT.
UM, OR, UM, BACK LIT WOULD BE FINE.
SO DOWN LIT, BACK LIT, NOTHING ELSE REALLY IS ACCEPTABLE UNDER THE NEW GUIDELINES FOR DARK SKIES.
PLUS THE FACT ANYTHING OTHER THAN DOWN LIT OR BACKLIT AFFECTS YOUR EYES WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
AND THEN AROUND THAT, UM, ROUNDABOUT AND FOR OLDER PEOPLE LIKE ME, OUR IRISES DON'T ADJUST QUICKLY.
SO YOU, YOU SEE THAT BRIGHTER LIGHT, BUT YOU'RE GOING AROUND THIS ROUNDABOUT AND GETTING INTO SHADOW AND IT'S A PROBLEM.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE USING THE NEWEST GUIDELINES.
WELL, I JUST FROM, FROM EXPERIENCE THE WEB AND I THINK MAYOR PROTO CAN SPEAK TO THIS ALSO AS WELL AS COUNCILOR TOBIAS.
YOU KNOW, THE WORK WE DID WITH COLEMAN TO DEVELOP THE, THE MARY HEARTS AND PROJECT WAS MORE THAN JUST, HEY, DRAW US SOME PICTURES.
UH, IT WAS A VERY IMMERSIVE AND COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, AND COLEMAN HELPED US TO SOLVE A MYRIAD OF PROBLEMS THAT HAD WE NOT WORKED WITH THEM, WE WOULD'VE DEVELOPED LATER IN THEIR MISTAKES.
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COULD NOT ENDORSE COLEMAN MOORE TO HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT.I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOUR TIME IS VALUABLY SPENT AND THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO FUND AND PURSUE NOT ONLY FROM THE DESIGN STANDPOINT, BUT FROM AN ACTUAL CIP AND ENGINEERING STANDPOINT.
JUST, UM, WE BEING VERY COGNIZANT OF COST AS WELL.
SO WHERE THERE'S AREAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, UTILITIES NEARBY, YOU'RE DESIGNING THAT IN A DIFFERENT, UH, MINDSET THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ZERO LANDSCAPING WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MINIMAL NO WATER NEEDED, RIGHT.
BUT IF WE'VE GOT THE WATER SOURCE NEARBY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A BIG COST.
I, I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO RUN A WHOLE WATER LINE, YOU KNOW, TO A ROUNDABOUT THAT HAS NO INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT.
SO JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WE HAVE UNDERGROUND.
I THINK WE KNOW WHAT THANK YOU TALKING ABOUT.
UM, SO I GUESS WHEN YOU'RE GONNA START DESIGNING THESE, YOU'LL REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY OR OUR TOWN AND MAYBE KIND OF USE SOME CONCEPTS OF DATING BACK TO, UM, OUR HISTORY AND MAYBE ADD 'EM IN DIFFERENT PIECES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND I WAS GONNA KIND OF MAKE A, A LITTLE SIDE THING IS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE LOTS OF GUARDRAILS.
'CAUSE THE WAY THESE PEOPLE DRIVE IN THE CITY, THEY'RE GONNA BE POPPING THEM CURVES.
SO WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY CURVE.
I HAVE A SPECIAL ONE FOR DANIELA
SO THE WAY THAT PEOPLE DRIVE IN THE CITY GET READY, THEY KNOW THEY WANTED THE ROUNDABOUTS.
SO SOME OF THOSE, THOSE GET SOME IMAGES OF THE RAISED MEDIAN.
LIKE YOU, YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH.
LIKE, OH, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING THERE.
BUT IF YOUR EYES ARE LOOKING THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE, YOU'RE NOT EVEN LOOKING AT THE RIGHT SPOT.
SO RAYS ALSO PROVIDES FOR THE RAMP SLASH SLOWDOWN.
DEPENDING ON HOW FAST YOU'RE GOING.
AND I GUESS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHASE, ONCE WE'RE, UH, DESIGNED THAT ROAD AROUND THAT AREA, WE COULD LOOK AT, WELL THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT LIKE A POSSIBLE SPEED CUSHIONS TO WHERE WE CAN SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN.
BUT, UH, YEAH, I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD IDEA.
MAYBE IF, YOU KNOW, JUST A SUGGESTION TO LOOK AT OUR CITY, OUR HISTORY, SEE IF ABSOLUTELY THERE'S SOME KIND OF LITTLE ART PIECES THAT COULD BE PUT TOGETHER TO WHERE YOU CAN SIGNIFY, LIKE IN AUSTIN WHERE THEY HAVE THE DOWNTOWN GUITARS AND THEY HAVE THE, THE LONGHORNS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IT GIVES A CERTAIN AREA OF THE, OF THE CITY.
SO ONE POTENTIAL ISSUE HERE IS THE, WE HAVE AN, UH, ARTS BOARD THAT WE'VE CREATED.
UH, AND SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY'RE GONNA WANNA WEIGH IN.
AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY INCUMBENT UPON THIS BOARD TO DECIDE HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT WE WANT THEM TO HAVE IN THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THAT, DO WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THE, UM, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR WORK WITH COLEMAN AND MELISSA TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE THEMES AND THE PALLETS AND THE LANDSCAPING? OR DO WE WANNA JUST IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC PEDESTAL AND SAY, ON TOP OF THE PEDESTAL, THAT'S THE ART THAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO COMMISSION.
IT'S MY PREFERENCE, BUT I, I JUST DON'T WANNA GIVE TOO MUCH OVER TO THE COMMISSION ALL AT ONCE.
I WOULD RATHER KEEP THIS AT THE POLICYMAKERS LEVEL, BUT STILL, I THINK THERE ARE ART COMPONENTS THAT WE COULD ALLOW FOR THEM TO MAYBE SPECIFIC ART, MAYBE TO HAVE THEM WORK WITH IDENTIFYING THOSE AREAS AND THEN THEY CAN GO FROM THERE.
DO YOU NEED CLARIFICATION ON FROM US ON THAT NOW? OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT PROCESS? I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY NAVIGATE, UH, FOR SOME OF THAT, BUT ABSOLUTELY WE WANT IT TO BE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS TOO, TO GET, WHY DO WE HAVE TO HIRE COLEMAN THROUGH RECE FOR THIS? I WAS JUST SAYING I WANTED THEIR ORIGINALLY KIND OF THE ROUNDABOUTS CAME UP THROUGH THE ROAD BONDS, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF HAD THAT CONNECTION WITH THAT FOR THIS ROUNDABOUT PROCESS.
BUT, UM, IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SEMANTICS, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF LINK IT TOGETHER WITH THE ROPE ON PROJECT.
WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE A SEPARATE CONTRACT.
I THINK IT'S JUST TO HAVE A NEXUS WITH THE ENGINEERING AND THE PROCESS AND WHAT'S GOING ON, THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S NOT BEING DONE INDEPENDENTLY FROM THOSE THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS BEING WORKED ON TOGETHER.
AND UH, THE REASON WE'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD IS OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THE ENGINEERING AND THE CONSTRUCTION IS, IS ADVANCING AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO, TO BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR SOME OF THESE.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO TIME WHICH ONES WE'RE WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, TO THE ONES THAT ARE COMING, UH, UP VERY QUICKLY.
BUT IT'S, UH, WE HAVE OTHER SUB CONSULTANTS THAT WORKING YOU, WE JUST CON CONTRACT THROUGH K FREEZE.
UM, IT'D STILL BE THE SAME RELATIONSHIP AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
THE DIRECTION CONCERNED, THE DIRECT YOU NEED FROM US IS JUST TO DIRECT YOU TO PROCEED OR NOT, OR, OR WHAT DO YOU, YEAH.
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON TODAY.
UM, BUT IF YOUR DIRECTION IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PURSUE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS WHERE THEY WOULD BE INTERCONNECTED WITH THE DESIGNS, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND, AND BRING THAT FORWARD.
BUT IT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL WAS COMFORTABLE.
IT'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE TOO.
WE'LL GIVE YOU OPTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THAT.
BUT I WANTED, I THINK THE GRAND VISION OF IT WAS REALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL WAS COMFORTABLE WITH CONNECTING NOT ONLY THE ROUNDABOUTS BUT THE IMAGES, THE BRANDING, AND ALSO CORRIDORS, THE BEAUTIFICATION CORRIDORS OF THE CITY.
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FRANKLY WE REALLY DON'T HAVE GOOD PLANS FOR THOSE BEAUTIFICATION AREAS.HOW DO THOSE TIE TOGETHER? AND I, I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO USE COLEMAN FORD TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN PHASES.
CAN I MAKE MOTION? CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT? YEAH.
SO I JUST WANNA GET BACK TO LIKE ON THE BEAUTIFICATION AND THE WATER FOR THESE ROUNDABOUTS THAT WE HAVE A FAIR AND EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF THESE TYPES OF ROUNDABOUTS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY WITH, 'CAUSE I COULD, I CAN ALREADY START TO ANTICIPATE ALL THE NICE ONES IN ONE SECTION.
SO DON'T WANNA SEE THAT AND FIND A NICE GREEN AND WHATEVER MONUMENT TYPES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WHETHER WE HAVE THE WATER THERE OR NOT.
IT, THAT SHOULD NOT BE A CONSIDERATION.
ARE YOU SAYING LIKE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE NICE ONES ON THE WEST SIDE AND HE JUST DOESN'T WANNA SEE THAT? THAT'S WHAT I HEARD SOMEBODY WAS ALLUDING TO.
NOBODY'S ALLUDED TO THAT SOMEONE SAID, I THINK, I THINK YOU HEAR WHAT YOU WANT HEAR.
IF WE DON'T HAVE IRRIGATION THEN, THEN JUST, JUST THROW ROCKS IN THERE.
SAY THE 16 NEW ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE BEING PLANNED ALL HAVE, UM, IRRIGATION AND ELECTRICITY, SO RIGHT.
SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THE, IT'S EQUAL MONEY PAID BY EVERYONE EQUALLY.
WE HAVE HAVE, WE HAVE A POLICY, LIKE ROBERT SAID, WE HAVE A POLICY POLICY, HOW BIG THE, THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE GONNA BE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE AND EVERYTHING.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL GET ME EXCITED WHEN Y'ALL BRING THIS STUFF UP.
SO JUST DON'T BRING UP THAT IF WE HAVE WATER HERE, WE'RE GONNA GET SOME NICER ONES.
SO, SO IF THERE'S NO WATER NEARBY, YOU WANNA SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS TO BRING WATER THERE? THAT'S WHAT I WAS BRINGING UP.
I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT EAST SIDE, WEST SIDE.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR.
AND IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE TAXPAYER NO, LET ME KNOW.
I DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I DO.
BUT WE SHOULD, IT IS NOT YOUR FIRST COUNCIL MEETING, IS IT? SURE.
WE DON'T WANNA, YOU'VE BEEN TO THESE BEFORE.
I DON'T WANT YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THIS GOES.
I I DO HAVE A, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
I THINK MAYBE THEMATICALLY IF WE USE THE RAILROAD THEME, WHICH WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN USING FOR A LOT OF THINGS, IT'S UNIQUE, IT TIES INTO OUR DEPOT AND OTHER AREAS OF TOWN.
UM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE ARTS COMMISSION, UH, INVOLVED IN HELPING WITH THE DESIGN AND THE ARTWORK.
I THINK THAT THEY, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT USE OF THAT COMMISSION, NOT TO SLOW YOU DOWN BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT USE OF THEIR TIME.
AND THAT WAS WHEN WE WORKED WITH THE, UM, THE ARTISTS ON THE CAPITAL COMPLEX PROJECT.
WE CAME, WE PUT OUT A CALL TO ARTISTS TO SAY, WE ARE DOING THE FLORA AND FAUNA OF TEXAS.
THESE ARE THE FIVE ELEMENTS THAT WE ARE DOING.
THESE ALL FIVE ELEMENTS NEED TO LOOK SIMILAR EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE DONE BY TWO DIFFERENT ARTISTS.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF ALL IN THE BRIEFING AS PART OF IT WAS THESE ARE THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'RE WORKING IN IN ORDER TO MAKE IT LOOK COHESIVE AND UNIFIED, BUT STILL ALLOW ARTISTIC, NO ONE TOLD LAURA STANLEY THAT'S WHAT THE ARMADILLO HAD TO LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? THAT WAS HIS INTERPRETATION OF YEAH.
SO THAT'S A, THAT I THINK IT'S A PER, IT'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES IS AN EXPERT AT DESIGNING UNIFIED ROUTE ABOUT THEMES AND LANDSCAPING.
WE WOULD ASSUME THAT'S WHY WE WANNA WORK WITH YOU.
UM, BUT WITHIN THAT PROJECT THERE'S A PIECE LIKE YOU THINK ON A MAP, LIKE WHAT IS THE SIGNATURE ART ELEMENT FOR THIS ONE? WHAT IS THE SIGNATURE ART ELEMENT FOR THE NEXT ONE? PROBABLY NOTHING ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SORRY, IT'S LATE.
YOU'RE GONNA, I I START TO GET, I START TO START JOKING THE SIDE MONEY AND PUT IT ON THE WEST SIDE.
BUT WHAT I'M, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEN THE ARTS COMMISSION, COULD IT BE, HAVE A MORE NARROW BUT BUT ALSO REALLY TAILORED TO WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL ARTISTIC EXPRESSION OF EACH ONE.
AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER, WHY I GET A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THESE KIND OF PROJECTS IS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH MAJOR LANDSCAPE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED, BID FUNDED, VOTED TO APPROVE AND JUST DISAPPEARED FROM THE LANDSCAPE OFF OF, UH, EAST SIDE KYLE PARKWAY EXTENSION.
WE FUNDED A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
1626, IT WAS WITH TREES AND A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
SO THE ROUNDABOUT AT BURLESON IS THE ONE PROJECT OUT OF LIKE FOUR THAT WE APPROVED THAT ACTUALLY MADE IT AND IT ALMOST DIDN'T MAKE IT.
SO MY MY POINT IS I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE PRIORITIZE AND THAT, THAT WE DELIVER.
AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PLEASE SEE THOSE OTHER CONTRACTS COME BACK OR US NOT JUST ABANDON COUNCIL WILL ON THAT.
UM, ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF, UH, TO WORK WITH COLEMAN AND ASSOCIATES ON, UH, CRAFTING A PLACEMAKING, ROUNDABOUTS, WAYFINDING AND BEAUTIFICATION OF GATEWAY'S PROGRAM AND BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS TO THAT EFFECT.
SECOND NOTION BY MAYOR SECOND BY COUNCILLOR HARRIS.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON MOTION? ALL IN A FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ALL THE OPPOSED, ALL MOTION CARRIES SEVEN TO ZERO.
IF IT'S TWO SECONDS, IT'LL BE TWO SECONDS ON SATURDAY.
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I HAVEN'T READ IT.I WANT TO ADJOURN, BUT, OKAY, FINE.
[14) Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on the proposed city council committees for boards and commission appointments. ]
14.UH, DISCUSSION ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THIS IS THE SECONDARY ITEM TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS APPOINTMENTS THAT YOU ALL APPROVED IN ON MAY 7TH.
THIS WAS MY JOKE ABOUT A FORMULA WE USED, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO JOKE RIGHT NOW.
WE GOT THE, UH, THIS, THE MAYOR FLOATS TO EACH ONE OF THESE.
SO WE HAVE, SO MAYOR, YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM THIS CONVERSATION, BUT WE GOT TWO, UM, THE 2, 3, 2 PERSON COMMITTEES FROM EACH ONE OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, OF, OF THE COUNCIL THAT WOULD WEIGH IN ON BOARDS AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.
THESE WERE THE ONES THAT WE CAME UP WITH.
WE TRIED TO PAIR EVERYONE WITH THEIR HIGHEST NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO THAT THEY WANTED.
WE FEEL LIKE WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD SET OF ONES AND TWOS FROM EACH ONE OF YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER HEISER AND ZUNIGA WILL BE EVALUATING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM BOARD AND BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
COUNCILMAN HARRIS AND MAYOR PRO TEM RIZZO WILL BE EVALUATING THE ARTS AND CULTURE BOARD AND THE TRAILS COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND TOBIAS WILL BE EVALUATING PARKS AND RECREATION AND COMMUNITY GARDENS.
IF YOU GOT, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, THE PLANNING AND ZONING WILL ROTATE EVENLY AS THE BOARD BOARDS COME UP.
AND THESE ARE NOT SET IN STONE.
WE CAN EVALUATE THESE EACH YEAR SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THEM AROUND AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS A FAIR SHAKE AT THESE.
BUT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH GETTING OUR BOARDS TOGETHER.
JUST WANTED TO PUT IT BEFORE YOU SO THAT YOU ALL SAW THERE'S NOTHING TO VOTE ON OR ANYTHING.
THESE WILL BE THE APPOINTMENTS AND YES, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS GARDEN COMMITTEE AND TRAILS COMMITTEE ARE SCHEDULED TO, UM, BE PHASED IT OUT.
THE GARDEN COMMITTEE'S LAST MEETING IS JUNE 5TH.
TRAILS I THINK IS PROBABLY ABOUT THE SAME TIME UNLESS WE VOTE TO EXTEND THESE COMMITTEES.
SO JUST, WE MAY JUST HAVE THAT ONE, ONE SLIDE NOTE TAKEN.
OKAY, THAT'S HALL WHAT? YOUR NEW ADJOURN
ANY DISCUSSION? SO WHAT WAS, NOPE, MS. HARRISON, SORRY.
WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? THERE WASN'T A RECOMMENDATION, JUST A COMMENT THAT TRAILS AND GARDEN ARE SCHEDULED TO LAPSE IN JUNE.
SO SHE JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
YEAH, UNLESS WE CHOOSE AT SOME POINT TO EXTEND THOSE.
SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, ADJOURN.