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TIME IS 7:03 PM[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]
IT IS TUESDAY, JULY 16TH, AND I'M GONNA CALL THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.WOULD ALL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WOULD THE CITY SECRETARY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MITCHELL.
ALRIGHT, FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT.
[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
UP IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.AT THIS TIME, WE ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM TO PLEASE DO SO.
WE ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENTS FORM AND SUBMIT THAT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY.
UH, AND AT THE LAST MEETING, I WAS NOT HERE.
I, I DO WANNA REMIND THE, THE GALLERY AND THE AUDIENCE AND THE COUNCIL, UH, THAT WE'VE ADOPTED RULES OF COUNCIL THAT, UH, COMPEL THE AUDIENCE AND THE COUNCIL TO, UH, UH, FOLLOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DECORUM WHILE IN THE MEETING.
UH, AND THAT DECORUM MEANS THAT YOU CAN'T CLAP OR
THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK, UNIN, UH, UNINHIBITED, UH, AND ALSO TO NOT HAVE THEIR VOICE AMPLIFIED BY A GROUP SETTING.
AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE WOULD REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING OR BOOING.
UH, AND ALSO IT IS PROHIBITED, UH, IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL TO HOLD UP SIGNS, UH, OR TO USE PROPS IN YOUR SPEAKING.
SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, SO LONG AS YOU'RE NOT HOLDING ANYONE UP TO CONTENT, UH, OR SPEAKING ON PERSONNEL MATTERS, YOU CAN SPEAK TO US ABOUT ANY, UH, UH, ISSUE BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND WE WILL LISTEN.
SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, FIRST UP IS JASON PAYNE, HONOR ROBERT DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL CITIZENS.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE KYLE BMW POST 12 0 5 8.
JUST, UH, WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY AS LAST TIME I WAS UP HERE.
WE HAVE OUR, UH, SERVICE DOG TELETHON COMING UP IS FOR UNITED STATES VETERAN SERVICE DOG.
IT'S A ORGANIZATION THAT BENEFITS AND HELPS NEEDY VETERANS TO RECEIVE SERVICE DOGS.
UH, WE ARE THE FIRST IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO HOLD THIS TELETHON, AND SO IT'S A HUGE DEAL TO BE A PART OF THIS TELETHON FOR, UH, GETTING THESE NEEDED SUPPORT, UH, ANIMALS TO THE VETERANS COSTS ABOUT $35,000 TO GET A DOG TO A VETERAN.
IT'S GONNA BE ON AUGUST 31ST, 2024, 11:00 AM TO 7:00 PM AT THE, UH, KYLE VFW, UH, LOCAL.
EVERYBODY'S WELCOME TO COME OUT.
WE ALSO WANNA INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT TO THE, UM, HALLOWEEN, UH, DEAL THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING ON PUTTING ON A NICE, UH, HAUNTED HOUSE FOR ALL THE KIDS AND EVERYBODY, UH, TWO SEPARATE DEALS.
SOME FOR THE SCARY LOVERS, SOME FOR THE LESS SCARY LOVERS.
UH, ALSO WE WANT TO HAVE, UM, EVERY, EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME, COME TO OUR FRIDAY BREAKFAST, COME OUT, MEET THE KYLE VFW, MEET THE VETERANS IN YOUR LOCAL AREA, UH, HAVE BREAKFAST WITH THEM AND ENJOY OUR COMPANY AND, AND HAVE US, YOU KNOW, ENJOY YAS AND TALK.
UH, WE HAVE THESE FLYERS AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS THEM.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE COINS, UH, FOR SALE FOR $20.
UH, THEY'RE VERY NICE COINS SET UP FOR, TO ALL PROCEEDS ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE VETERANS, UH, UNITED STATES VETERANS.
VFW, UH, SORRY, UNITED STATES SERVICE DOGS.
UM, BUT THERE ARE, WE HAVE THEM FOR SALE AND $20 FOR ONE OR DONATE WHAT FOR YOUR CHOICE.
UM, MY, I'M UP HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING ABOUT AGENDA ITEM FIVE, THE SPORTSPLEX.
MY FIRST CONCERN IS A PARKS AND RECS MASTER PLAN REFERENCED IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL IS FROM 2016, WHICH IS ALMOST 10 YEARS OLD, I BELIEVE A NEW PLAN IS NEEDED WITH UPDATED INFORMATION, INCLUDING CURRENT OUTSTANDING BOND INFORMATION.
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OUTDOOR SPORTS FACILITY STUDIES.I NOTICED THE LOCATIONS USED IN EACH OF THE STUDIES HAD DIFFERENT WEATHER CLIMATES THAN THAT OF KYLE.
AFTER RESEARCHING EACH LOCATION, I FOUND NINE OF THE 10 FACILITIES HAD AN AVERAGE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SIX AND NINE DEGREES, AND SIX OF THE FACILITIES HAD A DIFFERENCE OF AT LEAST 10 DEGREES OR MORE.
IN FACT, THE ONLY COMPARABLE OUTDOOR FACILITY TO KYLE WAS GULF SHORES, ALABAMA, WHICH HAD A DIFFERENCE OF AT LEAST FIVE DEGREES DURING TWO OF THE THREE SUMMER MONTHS.
I SUGGEST USING STUDIES WITHIN CENTRAL TEXAS TO GIVE THE BEST COMPARISON FOR THE OUTDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX.
ON PAGE 10, IN THE AREA LABELED YOUTH MULTI-SPORT FACILITY COMP VISITATION, THE AVERAGE NUMBER FOR BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL COURTS ARE INACCURATE.
THE AVERAGE SHOULD BE 10 COURTS FOR BASKETBALL AND 20 FOR VOLLEYBALL.
THE AVERAGE NUMBERS PROVIDED TO AND USED BY THE CITY OF 30 AND 60 ARE ACTUALLY THE TOTAL NUMBERS FOR ALL THREE FACILITIES COMBINED.
SINCE THE INFORMATION ON THAT PAGE REFLECTS ONLY ONE OUTDOOR FIELD, NO AVERAGE SHOULD BE PROVIDED FOR OUTDOOR FIELDS.
THE COST FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX AND THE BACKUP INFORMATION IS CONFUSING.
I SEE A GRAND TOTAL COST OF 185,615,701 AND 20 CENTS ON PAGE 69.
HOWEVER, THE COST ESTIMATE ON PAGE 71 FOR PHASE ONE IS $65 MILLION.
HOW DID STAFF COME TO THIS AMOUNT WHEN ON PAGE 70, IT SHOWS SCHEMATICS WON'T BEGIN UNTIL MID-NOVEMBER AFTER THE ELECTION FOR THE BOND.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY PHASES ARE PLANNED AND HOW THOSE PHASES WILL BE FUNDED.
DO THESE COSTS INCLUDE THE PRE PREVIOUS CITY AND COUNTY BONDS, WHICH WERE APPROVED IN 2020? ALSO, IS THERE A DEFINITE PLAN REGARDING WHAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE INDOOR SPORTSPLEX? FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW ACCESSIBLE THE SPORTSPLEX WILL BE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IF THE CITY IS USING THE SPORTSPLEX AS A REC CENTER, WILL THE RESIDENTS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR MEMBERSHIP? IF SO, WHAT IS THE COST OF THAT MEMBERSHIP? BUILDING A SPORTSPLEX TO GENERATE REVENUE MAY MAKE SENSE IF THE RESIDENTS ALREADY HAVE A REC BUILDING.
HOWEVER, USING THE LAST OF OUR BONDING CAPACITY TO BUILD SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY IS FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE AND NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR TAXPAYERS.
I HOPE EACH OF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS TRULY NEEDED AND NECESSARY FOR OUR CITY.
ALSO, IF YOU COULD PLEASE MOVE UP AGENDA ITEM 21, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
WELL, MY NAME IS HOWARD CONNELL.
MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, THAT LAST PRESENTATION WAS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME.
SO, AS YOUR, UH, TALK LAST WEEK ON THE SCREEN OVER HERE, WE WENT ABOUT 25 MINUTES OFF TOPIC, OKAY? WHEN YOU WEREN'T REELED IN BY THE MAYOR PRO TEMP, WHICH IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
OKAY? SO WE'RE TOTALLY OUT OF ORDER, EVERYBODY.
OKAY? BUT THE HAMMER OIL CAME DOWN WHEN SOMEONE UP IN HERE LAUGHED OR SOMETHING.
I FIND THE FACT, MAYOR, TONIGHT, THAT YOU BROUGHT THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T SHOW ANY SIGNS.
I FIND A SMILE INSIDE BECAUSE YOU READILY JUST CAME UP WITH YOUR OWN RULE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IT IN THE RULES BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT.
OKAY? I'M SICK AND TIRED OF BEING A SIDES SHOW FOR YOU FOLKS UP HERE.
YOU SIT THERE WITH LOOKS ON YOUR FACE LIKE DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION.
BUT YOU WANNA KNOW SOMETHING? THERE'S A GROUP OF US OUT HERE THAT ARE ORGANIZED AND WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT LIKE HELL.
OKAY? WE ARE GOING TO, WE ARE GOING TO GO AFTER EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO IS A LEACH.
EVERYBODY WHO IS NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES.
I HAVE HERE MR. RIZZO'S TRIP TO WASHINGTON DC WHICH I'M GONNA REFRAIN FROM GOING TO TONIGHT SINCE HIS DAUGHTER'S IN THE AUDIENCE.
I DON'T WANNA BEARS 'EM TOO BAD, BUT I, I SENT THIS TO YOU A WEEK AGO AND ASKED YOU TO CONTACT ME AND MAYBE WE COULD WORK SOMETHING OUT.
YOU'VE GAVE ME ONE OF THESE, OKAY? SO I'VE NOT HAD IT WITH THIS DOG AND PONY SHOW.
I'M SORRY YOU FEEL THAT, YOU FEEL THAT I'M GETTING OUTTA OUTTA LINE, BUT THIS IS FROM MY HEART.
I CAN'T STAND THE ARROGANCE, THE ARROGANCE OF YOUR ATTITUDES.
IT'S PLAYED OUT IN THE ABUSE OF THE CREDIT CARDS.
YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? IT'S ETHICS.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE BUDGET, THE LINE ITEMS. THIS IS A YOU ITEM.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT YOU, YOUR CHOICES.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP MICHAEL MCDONALD.
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I WASN'T EVEN GONNA SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT I DECIDED I WOULD DO IT.I'VE WATCHED THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, AND I'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT NOT EVERYONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL IS A LEADER.
A LEADER CARES ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT THEY REPRESENT.
EACH COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTS A CERTAIN DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE.
ONE OF YOU UP HERE IS MY REPRESENTATIVE.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I HAVE NEVER SEEN YOU BEFORE, EXCEPT IN HERE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU WALKING AROUND, NEVER HEARD ANYTHING FROM YOU.
I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A MEET AND GREET WITH YOU.
I'VE NEVER BEEN TO, UH, UH, QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD.
I'VE, I'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH, WITH MY REPRESENTATIVE IN THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT YOU MET WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE YOU REPRESENT.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WENT OUT AND YOU SET UP A MEETING YOURSELF AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THOSE PEOPLE? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT YOU MET WITH 'EM? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT YOU MET WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND ASKED THEM WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT CERTAIN TOPICS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU WERE GONNA VOTE ON? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU VOTED FOR WHAT THEY WANTED AND NOT FOR WHAT YOU WANTED? YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WANTS AND NEEDS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A BIG MESS HERE WITH THE CITY OF KYLE BECAUSE WE HAVE VOTED A TON OF WANTS AND NOT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.
WE NEED WATER, WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND YOU GUYS, I SAW THE EXAMPLE, I SAW AN EXAMPLE LAST TIME HERE.
UM, WHEN THEY VOTED ON, UM, THE MENTAL HEALTH THING.
WOULD YOU GO BUY A CAR JUST LOOKING AT A PICTURE AND NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF CAR IS THIS? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, HOW MANY MILES DOES THIS THING HAVE ON IT? YOU ALL JUST VOTED TO, TO, TO, TO PAY A HUNDRED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON SOMETHING.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ALL THE DETAILS ON.
YOU NEED TO INVESTIGATE WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
IS THE CITY OF KYLE GONNA PAY FOR THE, FOR THE HAYES COUNTY? DO WE EVEN KNOW THAT? IT'S, IT'S REALLY AGGRAVATING.
UM, WHO DO YOU REPRESENT ACTUALLY, DO YOU YOU REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OR DO YOU REPRESENT THE COUNCIL? I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT REALLY.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU VOTE, YOU DON'T VOTE.
LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE REPRESENTING THE, THE CITIZENS.
YOU VOTE LIKE YOU'RE REPRESENTATIVE.
THE COUNCIL, YOU VOLUNTARILY RAN TO BE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
YOU CHOSE, I DIDN'T CHOSE THAT.
YOU CHOSE THAT AND YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING INTO.
AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS A, YOU ARE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO ACT IT.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE JUVENILE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAM.
IT WAS VERY SAD TO SEE THE JUVENILE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAM PASSED WITH NO PLAN IN PLACE.
IT WAS VERY TELLING THAT NO EXPERTS, NO ENTITY, THE CITY IS PLANNING TO PARTNER WITH NOT HAYES COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, NOT HAYES COUNTY, CISD, NOT HILL COUNTRY MENTAL HEALTH TESTIFIED THERE WERE SO MANY RED FLAGS WAVING ON THIS ISSUE.
IT'S SHOCKING THAT THE CITY WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH SUCH A COMPLEX ISSUE WITH NO PLAN.
EVEN COUNCIL MEMBER LEE SAID, THIS PERSON CANNOT SERVICE THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
BUT WE MOVED FORWARD WITHOUT A PLAN.
COUNCIL MEMBER, TOBIAS, THE WHO THROUGH HIS EMPLOYMENT, HAS THE MOST EXPERIENCE WITH MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, EXPRESSED SEVERAL ISSUES THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS RESOLUTION.
A VOTE WAS PREMATURELY CALLED FOR.
AND THE MAYOR WHO ATTENDED VIRTUALLY ATTEMPTED TO MANIPULATE THE VOTE, INFERRING THAT IF YOU SUPPORT THIS CARE, YOU'LL VOTE FOR IT.
HE ALSO SAID HE WAS PUTTING HIS MONEY WHERE HIS MOUTH IS.
THAT WAS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, BECAUSE HE HAD EXPRESSED SEVERAL TIMES THAT HE CARED ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
HE JUST WANTED IT TO BE DONE RESPONSIBLY.
I'M SO THANKFUL HE HAD THE COURAGE TO STAND FOR HIS PRINCIPLE.
EVEN THOUGH HE WAS ALONE, THE AUDIENCE WAS VISIBLY UPSET THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD MOVE FORWARD ON THIS VERBALLY EXPRESSING THEIR DISSATISFACTION, WHICH CONVENIENTLY COULD NOT BE HEARD ON THE LIVE STREAM.
PLEASE STOP THIS OR IMPROVE YOUR SOUND SYSTEM SO THAT THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING CARE AND HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING HEARD, THE CANCELLATION OF CREDIT CARDS.
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INGA, THANK YOU FOR COURAGEOUSLY ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL CREDIT CARDS TO BE CANCELED IN AN EFFORT TO REIGN IN THE IRRESPONSIBLE AND EXCESSIVE SPENDING BY SOME MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THE CASE TO CONTINUE THE CREDIT CARDS AND THE $500 A MONTH STIPEND HAS NOT BEEN JUSTIFIED.COUNCIL MEMBER ISO EXPRESSED THAT WITHOUT THESE, NOT EVERYONE WOULD BE ABLE TO RUN FOR COUNCIL.
BUT FIRST OF ALL, ANYONE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL HAS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A CAMPAIGN.
AND SECOND OF ALL, THERE'S A FORM AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT CANNOT WAIT FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF EXPENSES.
IT ALLOWS FOR THE MONEY TO BE, UH, GIVEN TO THEM UPFRONT.
UH, THEN THE, UH, EXPLANATION FOR NEEDING THE CREDIT CARDS AS WELL AS THE $500 STIPEND IS TOTALLY INSUFFICIENT.
AND WE'RE NOT AGAINST TRAVEL FOR EDUCATION AND APPROPRIATE TRAVEL.
WE JUST WANT TRANSPARENCY, WHICH BY THE WAY, LOOKING AT THE CREDIT CARD REIMBURSEMENT POLICY STATES THAT, UH, TRAVEL TO OTHER CITIES AS A MEMBER OF CITY KYLE DELEGATION, THAT'S OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO EXPLORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND FOR FURTHER THE INTEREST OF THE CITY OF KYLE, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY VOTES TAKEN ON SANCTIONING A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE TO TRAVEL ANYWHERE.
ALSO, THE, UM, SPORTS COMPLEX.
I'M NOT AGAINST ONE, BUT I AM AGAINST ONE FOR THIS TIME IN OUR HISTORY.
IT'S NOT TO TIME TO BUILD A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS COMPLEX.
ONLY THOSE, UH, UH, THOSE ARE THE ONLY COMMENTS THAT I FORMS THAT HAVE IN FRONT OF ME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD? UM, MY NAME IS AN ANGELITA TOVIAZ AND I AM A RESIDENT OF HAYES COUNTY, BUT I'M ALSO A TAX PLAYER FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
I COME BEFORE YOU WITH SEVERAL CONCERNS.
ONE OF WHICH MRS. MCDONALD HAS ALREADY SHARED THAT BEFORE THE PROCEDURES, ACCORDING TO THE MAYOR LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE, YOU WERE VERY ADAMANT THAT WE SHOULD, ALL THE DIOCESE SHOULD LEARN THE POLICIES AND THE RULES FOR THE COUNCIL.
SO I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA LOOK AT 'EM AND SEE WHAT THAT SAYS.
SO, UM, IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CITED.
THE PROCEDURES FOR OUT OF TOWN TRAVEL AND COMPLETING THE TRAVEL EXPENSES CLAIM FORM, THAT'S A SECTION THAT I'M UNDER IS SECTION EIGHT OUT OF THE POLICY WITH COUNCIL AMENDMENTS TEN THREE TWENTY TWENTY TWO.
SO I'M THINKING THAT THAT IS THE CURRENT THING THAT Y'ALL ARE WORKING BY.
SO IT STAYS HERE AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE BEFORE YOU ALL DECIDE TO TAKE THE WHOLE COUNCIL OUT OF TOWN AND GUEST, WHICH IS NOT AN ALLOWABLE EXPENSE.
SO IF YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING YOUR OWN RULE, WITH ALL YOUR RESPECT, MAYOR, THAT YOU WOULD CHASTISED YOUR, YOUR FELLOW PEOPLE HERE ABOUT NOT LEARNING OR NOT KNOWING IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE OF KYLE.
IF YOU'RE EXPECTING PEOPLE TO KNOW EVERYTHING, THEN YOU HAVE A TRAINING AND GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE HAPPEN.
BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE FOR THE OTHER AND NOT FOR THE OTHER.
AND I'M GONNA DISAGREE WITH YOU, MR. REEL, THAT PEOPLE DON'T VOTE OR DON'T WANNA RUN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO DO.
THERE'S A LOT OF CAPABLE PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WOULD MAKE EXCELLENT CITIZENS EXCELLENT.
BUT THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
NOW, I ASK YOU, WHAT SURVEYS HAVE YOU SHOWN OR CAN YOU SHOW US THAT PEOPLE DON'T, DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS DEMOCRACY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS? WHEN YOU SAY THAT, YOU NEED TO HAVE PROOF THAT YOU'VE DONE A SURVEY AND PEOPLE SAY, I DON'T RUN BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
OKAY, PERHAPS IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA GET CORRUPT.
PERHAPS THEY SEE THE EXAMPLES THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING ON THE DIOCESE, AND I APPLAUD THEM FOR THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO Y'ALL ABOUT IS ON THIS, UH, REFERENDUM, I'M ALL FOR IT.
AND IF YOU SAY IT'S NON-BINDING, THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK INTO YOUR CONSCIENCE AND SAY, WHY NOT? WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THIS? WHY ARE WE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PAY FOR YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE? YOU GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE.
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RESO, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T RUN BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO EVEN PAY THEIR TAXES.BUT WHY SHOULD THEY BE? WHY SHOULD WE BE THEM? THEY ALL BE PAYING FOR INSURANCE FOR PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD IT.
AND I WILL NEVER BELIEVE THAT YOU CANNOT.
THAT IS ALL THE COMMENT FORMS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
UM, HELLO, MY NAME IS TAYLOR WAMPLER.
SO, UH, WELL THIS IS ACTUALLY MY FIRST, UH, MEETING HERE.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING I WAS THINKING OF.
BASICALLY, I DIDN'T COME WITH ANYTHING PREPARED.
I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, SIT, LISTEN, HEAR WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY, UM, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE POLITICALLY ACTIVE, YOU KNOW? UM, SO JUST SHARING WHAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND AND MAYBE IT'LL RESONATE WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
MAYBE THEY'LL SAY SOMETHING AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT, ESSENTIALLY.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE IT IF WE HAD BETTER PUBLIC TRANSPORT.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE NEED SOMETHING AS EXTRAVAGANT AS AUSTIN.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING A BIG RAIL SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT, UM, KYLE HAS GROWN QUITE A BIT.
UM, I, UH, BY THE WAY, I WAS, UM, I GREW UP HERE.
UH, I LEFT FOR HOUSTON TO GO TO COLLEGE FOR A BIT, THEN I CAME BACK.
UM, I THINK I MOVED HERE BACK IN 2005 OR SO.
SO, UM, I THINK MAYBE THINGS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S JUST GETTING KIND OF SMACKED UP ALL CRAZY.
UH, THERE WASN'T THE BEST PLANNING WITH THAT.
AND I THINK ONE WAY TO REMEDY THAT IS TO HAVE BETTER PUBLIC TRANSPORT.
I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T, UM, AFFORD TO GET AROUND.
I MEAN, SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I DON'T HAVE A CAR.
UM, I'M STILL ABLE TO DO THINGS THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I GOT HERE.
UM, I'M PROBABLY GONNA ACTUALLY WALK BACK HOME.
I, BY THE WAY, BUT I'M GONNA, I LIKE TO WALK.
SO IT'S, IT'S, I'M KIND OF GOING AGAINST MY POINT HERE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HERE.
THEY'RE PROBABLY OVER 50 AND THEY PROBABLY DON'T LIKE TO WALK AS MUCH AS I DO.
UM, SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
THAT IS ALL, THAT'S ALL I GOTTA SAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? GOOD EVENING.
I WANT TO REMIND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, INCLUDING OUR CITY MANAGER, THAT IT IS YOUR DUTY CHARGE TO YOU BY THE CHARTER TO UPHOLD ALL OF THE ORDINANCES, RULES, AND POLICIES OF THE CITY THAT IS CURRENTLY NOT BEING DONE IN A GREAT MANY AREAS.
AND ALL OF YOU SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
THERE ARE CHARGES ON YOUR CREDIT CARDS, WHICH GO AGAINST TRAVEL POLICY, WHICH IS IN THE PERSONNEL MANUAL, WHICH APPLIES TO COUNSEL, PARTICULARLY IN THE TRAVEL REIMBURSEMENT SECTION.
YOU REGULARLY EXCEED THE ALLOTTED AMOUNT THAT FOR, UM, HOTEL STAYS.
I HAVE NEVER ONCE SEEN YOU COME UP HERE AND ASK COUNSEL FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THAT $135 A NIGHT LIMIT THAT IS IN THAT TRAVEL POLICY.
AND IT ALSO SAYS THAT MS. GOZA, PLEASE ADDRESS THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
OKAY, WELL, SO HE HAS NEVER DONE THAT.
SO HE'S NEVER COME UP HERE TO ASK FOR AN EXCEPTION.
AND DO WE EVEN KNOW THAT YOU ARE GETTING WRITTEN EXCEPTIONS? YOU CERTAINLY EXCEED YOUR PER DIEM ALL THE TIME.
YOU CERTAINLY CHARGE CHARGES THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED.
THEY'RE UNCOWED EITHER BY THAT TRAVEL POLICY OR BY AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU SIGNED IN 2022.
THOSE NEED TO BE ADHERED TO, AND IT NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION WITHIN THE CITY ON WHY THESE THINGS ARE SLIPPING THROUGH.
IF THEY'RE SLIPPING THROUGH ON THESE SMALL CHARGES FOR YOU, WHAT ARE THEY SLIPPING THROUGH ON LARGER CHARGES FOR ALL OF THESE INVOICES THAT WE REGULARLY HAVE COMING IN FROM ALL OF YOUR PET PROJECTS.
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY IT IS VERY DISRESPECTFUL FOR YOU TO BLOCK SOMEBODY OFF OF YOUR PERSONAL OR YOUR POLITICAL PAGE FROM SOMEBODY THAT THEY CAN'T SEE THAT IS A FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATION, WHICH WAS RULED BY THE SUPREME COURT IN MARCH, THAT YOU CANNOT DO THAT.
AND ALSO IT IS POTENTIALLY A VIOLATION TO PREVENT US FROM HOLDING SMALL UNOBTRUSIVE SIGNS AS A RESTRICTION OF FIRST AMENDMENT SPEECH.
CITIZEN COMMENTS, CITIZEN COMMENTS, PERIOD.
[IV) Agenda Order]
UP IS AGENDA ORDER.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY REQUESTS TO MOVE THE ITEMS AROUND? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.
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AND 22.ALL RIGHT, THE REQUEST IS TO MOVE THE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGAS ITEMS TO THE FRONT OF THE MEETING AND TAKE THEM OFF THE TOP.
UM, AS, AS HAS BEEN THE CASE, I THINK THAT PUTTING THESE ITEMS TO THE FRONT IS A MISTAKE AND I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY FIRST.
UM, SO I'LL CALL A VOTE ON THAT.
UH, ROLL CALL AND YES, VOTE IS TO TAKE UP THOSE ITEMS FIRST.
I AM SORRY, I JUST GOT CONNECTED AGAIN.
WHAT ITEM ARE WE ON? THE REQUEST IS BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA TO MOVE THE HIS ITEMS TO THE FRONT.
UH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR SCREEN ON TO BE COUNTED.
HE, NO, TOBIAS, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MAYOR, EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA ITEM IS PUBLIC BUSINESS, CITY BUSINESS, BUT I'M GONNA VOTE YES.
NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, RECEIVE A REPORT.
HOLD DISCUSSION PROVIDES STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY OF THE ALLIANCE, UH, WATER SEGMENT, C PIPELINE.
MAYOR, WE STILL NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
[II) Approval of Minutes]
STEP IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.ALRIGHT, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JULY 2ND, SPECIAL MEETINGS AND THE REGULAR SPECIAL MEETINGS ON THE SAME DATE.
ALL RIGHT, SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBY IS SECONDED BY THE MAYOR THAT WE APPROVE.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I MISS THE VOTE THAT JUST FOR COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND HE, AYE, IF YOU WANT THE EASIER WAY FOR ME TO SEE HEAR, BECAUSE I CAN'T ALWAYS HEAR THE YES VOTES OR IT'LL COME WITH A LAG.
SO IF YOU JUST HOLD YOUR HAND UP AS A YES VOTE THAT WAY, I'LL KNOW.
SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA READ IT AS SIX TO ZERO IS THE, IS THE VOTE ON THE MINUTES? ALRIGHT.
[3) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the construction activity of the Alliance Water segment "C" pipeline. ]
IS, UH, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY OF THE ALLIANCE WATER SEGMENT.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS GRAHAM MOORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY.
UM, I WANNA GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES ON OUR SEGMENT C CONSTRUCTION.
UH, JUST A QUICK COUPLE OF SLIDES ABOUT ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY.
AGAIN, WE WERE CREATED IN 2007 AS THE HAYES CALDWELL PUBLIC UTILITY AGENCY AND THEN CONVERTED TO ALLIANCE WATER IN 2017 THROUGH LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
WE PROVIDE WATER ON A WHOLESALE BASIS TO OUR SPONSORS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND WE'RE GOVERNED BY A 13 MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT ARE APPOINTED BY OUR SPONSORS.
UH, THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS OUR, UH, AREAS ARE SPONSORS COVER, INCLUDING THE CITY OF KYLE, CITIES OF ST.
MARCUS AND BUTTA, AS WELL AS KING REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY.
SO HOPEFULLY THOSE SLIDES LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU FROM THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS.
UH, JUST BIG PICTURE UPDATE ON SOME OF OUR CONSTRUCTION.
'CAUSE WE'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS.
THIS IS OUR OVERALL SYSTEM MAP.
AND WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SHOW HERE IS KIND OF THE, THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE OF OUR SYSTEM IS BASICALLY, UH, EVERYTHING IS, IS IN CONSTRUCTION VIRTUALLY COMPLETE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WE STILL HAVE WHAT I SHOW IS THE ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION, THE POINTS TO THE NORTH, INCLUDING THE SEGMENT C, WHICH I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDES.
AS WELL AS, UH, AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THAT WE'LL BUILD ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE SECTION TO PROVIDE SERVICE, UH, TO KYLE AND THE OTHER CUSTOMERS ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE SYSTEM.
UM, UPDATE ON OUR DISINFECTION AFTER WE GET PIPELINES INSTALLED AND WE TEST THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY HOLD PRESSURE, THEN WE HAVE TO DISINFECT THOSE SO THEY CAN BE READY FOR POTABLE WATER SERVICE.
I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT COLORS HERE ON THE SCREEN TO SHOW WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE AS TO THOSE THREE DIFFERENT PIPE SEGMENTS WHEN THEY WOULD BE COMPLETE.
I'M HAPPY TO REPORT AS OF THIS AFTERNOON, WE GOT REPORTS THAT ALL OF THIS HAVE, HAVE PASSED THEIR, UH, BACK T TESTING AND SO THEY ARE ALL READY FOR POTABLE WATER SERVICE.
SO THIS IS A, A PRETTY BIG MILESTONE IN OUR SYSTEM THAT ALL THESE WATER LINES ARE, ARE READY.
WE'RE ANXIOUS TO GET SEGMENT C TO JOIN THAT, UH, IN THE RELATIVELY NEAR FUTURE AS WELL.
UM, BUT THIS IS A, A NICE LITTLE MILESTONE FOR US.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK AT THE WIRE TREATMENT PLANT.
WE ARE GOING THROUGH STARTUP NOW.
IT TAKES A WHILE TO START UP A TREATMENT PLAN OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND, AND, UH, OF THIS COMPLEXITY.
WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT DAY BY DAY AND GETTING VERY CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO MOVE SOME POTABLE WATER OUT OF THAT PLANT AND START DELIVERING TO THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THESE PIPELINES.
NOW, MOVING ON TO KIND OF THE, THE TOPIC AT HAND, WHICH IS THE SEGMENT
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C PIPELINE, WHICH WILL BRING WATER TO THE CITY OF KYLE.JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, THE ALLIANCE WATER BOARD, UH, AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO MCKEE UTILITY, UH, WITH A NOSE TO PROCEED DATE OF APRIL 15TH, 2024.
THE CONTRACT REQUIRES WHAT WE CALL LINES ONE, THREE AND FOUR TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, UH, 2025.
AND THEN THE REMAINING LINE TWO TO COMPLETE, UH, BY HALLOWEEN OF 2025.
SO JUST A FEW UPDATES AS TO WHERE WE STAND.
THE CONTRACTOR STARTED WITH LINE THREE, WHICH IS THE 12 INCH LINE.
THAT'S THE SMALLEST AMMETER LINE.
THOSE MATERIALS WERE, WERE READILY AVAILABLE.
AND SO THEY HAVE STARTED THERE.
THIS YELLOW SHOWS THE, THE APPROXIMATE PROGRESS OF THAT.
THEY'VE GOT MOST OF THAT LINE COMPLETED AT THIS POINT, INCLUDING ALL OPEN CUP PORTIONS.
AND THEY'RE GOING BACK THROUGH AND, AND WHAT WE CALL THREADING THE TUNNELS ON THOSE REMAINING PIECES.
UH, AND MO LOTS OF THE OTHER AREAS THEY'VE CLEARED THE EASEMENTS.
THEY'VE IN INSTALLED, UH, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO, TO PREVENT RUNOFF AND, AND, UH, EROSION OF OUR EASEMENT AREAS.
TUNNELING CONTRACTORS BEEN ACTIVE ACROSS THE AREA.
THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE TONAL SHAFTS DUG, UH, FOR MICRO TUNNELS AND AS WELL AS HAND TUNNELING AND AUGER BORING.
AND THEN I'VE GOT A FEW PHOTOS HERE.
ONE TO SHOW YOU, UH, OF WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE AS YOU DRIVE AROUND THE AREA AND, AND SEE THESE VARIOUS AREAS.
WE'VE GOT, UH, OUR EASEMENT WHERE WE'VE GOT SILT, FENCE AND ROCK.
THEY'RE STARTING TO STORE FOR THE BEDDING MATERIAL.
THEY'LL GO ON THE PIPELINE THAT YOU COULD SEE THEY'VE CLEARED THAT EASEMENT ON THE LEFT HAND PHOTO.
THIS, UH, RIGHT HAND PHOTO IS AT LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.
THEY HAVE ACTUALLY STARTED CONSTRUCTION ACROSS LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.
WHILE THE SCHOOL IS OUT OF SERVICE THIS SUMMER.
BARTLETT C**K IS ALSO OUT THERE DOING A LOT OF EXPANSION TO THE CAMPUS.
SO WE'RE COORDINATING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CONTRACTOR THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY OUT OF EACH OTHER'S WAY.
AND SO THAT'S GOING SUCCESSFULLY SO FAR.
ON THE LEFT IS THE KIND OF THE END OF THE 12 INCH LINE AS IT CONNECTS TO COUNTY LINE SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT'S TANK.
UH, THIS WAS ONE OF THE VERY LAST PIECES OF THE OPEN CUT SECTION.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT IS ONE OF THE, UM, THE, THE TRENCHLESS SHAFTS THAT WERE DUG FOR THE MICRO TUNNEL, THE GONER I 35 AT WATERSTONE.
THERE'S SEVERAL OF THESE AROUND THE CITY THAT, THAT YOU'LL SEE AS PART OF THAT MICRO TUNNELING EFFORT.
ALL RIGHT, UH, LAST SLIDE REALLY FOR ME, CONSTRUCTION NEXT STEPS IS TO FINISH UP THAT 12 INCH WATER LINE.
UH, WE EXPECT THAT'LL BE DONE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, THAT THEY'LL HAVE THAT, THAT WORK ALL, UH, FINISHED UP.
YOU SHOULD START TO SEE SOME OF THE LARGER DIAMETER PIPELINES SHOW UP.
THEY'LL RANGE IN SIZE FROM THREE SIX TO 42 INCH IN DIAMETER.
YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTICE IT WHEN YOU START, START TO SEE IT.
THEY ARE WORKING ACTIVELY ACROSS THE LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL PARKING LOT.
UM, AND THEY WILL GET THAT WRAPPED UP AGAIN BY, UH, THE MIDDLE PART OF JULY HERE TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF BOTH THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S ALSO DOING WORK OUT THERE AND TO, UH, ALLOW THE SCHOOL TO COME IN, UH, IN EARLY AUGUST.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE CREWS THAT WILL START IN AUGUST MOVING TO THE SOUTH.
UH, THEY'LL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CREWS THAT ARE WORKING THAT WAY.
AND THEN LATER IN AUGUST THEY'RE GONNA ADD SOME ADDITIONAL CREWS TO, TO LAY PIPE INTO OTHER AREAS.
SO YOU'LL SEE LOTS OF CREWS WORKING VERY ACTIVELY ACROSS THE AREA.
YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY SEEN THAT.
AND THEY'LL CONTINUE WITH THE MICRO TUNNELS THAT GO UNDER THE RAILROADS AS WELL AS UNDER I 35.
UH, JUST WANNA POINT OUT AGAIN, THERE'LL BE NO PERMANENT ROAD CLOSURES.
THERE'LL BE A FEW SHORT TRAFFIC DELAYS OR INTERRUPTIONS AS THEY HAVE TO GET THE TRUCKS OFF THE ROAD OR, OR TAKE PIPELINE OFF THE TRUCKS.
THERE WILL BE FLAGGERS OUT THERE, BUT THERE'LL BE NO PERMANENT DETOURS OR NO LONG LASTING EFFECTS FROM, UH, CONSTRUCTION FOR, FOR TRAFFIC PURPOSES.
SO THAT'S, UH, ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE.
UM, UH, AS COMMITTED TO YOU BEFORE, I'LL COME BACK AND I THINK YOU'VE GOT SCHEDULED IN OCTOBER TO GIVE YOU ANOTHER UPDATE AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
AS WE CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THIS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MOORE? COUNCILOR TOBY.
IF THIS HAS TO GO WITH THE LAYMAN PARKING LOT, UM, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION'S ALREADY GONNA BE DONE.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE EQUIPMENT IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE FOOTBALL SEASON'S FAST APPROACHING.
AND WE HAVE OUR WARD WOMEN LAYMAN BAND THAT USES THAT AREA STARTING AT THE END OF JULY.
SO, SO THAT, THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL ON THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY ARE SETTING UP A DIFFERENT AREA FOR THE BAND OF PRACTICE THAT THIS AREA WHERE THE BAND TYPICALLY PRACTICES IS BEING USED BY, UH, THE CONTRACTOR THAT'S EXPANDING LAYMAN HIGH SCHOOL AS THEIR LAY DOWN YARD.
SO WE'RE COORDINATING ON, ON WHEN WE'RE GONNA COMPLETE THAT WORK, BUT THE BAND WILL HAVE THEIR OWN AREA TO PRACTICE IN BOTH OURSELVES AS WELL AS THE LAYMAN HIGH SCHOOL CONTRACTOR AND MAKING SURE THAT AREA'S AVAILABLE TO THEM.
'CAUSE I HAD A BAND PARENT AND ALSO HAD ANOTHER RESIDENT.
WE GOTTA GET 'EM READY FOR THE FOOTBALL SEASON.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT'S CONCERNED ABOUT WA WATER IS THAT ARAWA IS BRINGING THE WATER FROM THE CARRIZO AQUIFER, WHICH SOME PEOPLE LISTENING TO THIS, THIS MIGHT
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BE NEW TO THEM.UM, AND ARAWA ALSO, UH, HAS, UH, AN OPEN POLICY.
SO IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND THE BOARD MEETINGS, WHICH YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO, THEY'RE PUBLISHED, THEY'RE POSTED, AND THEY ARE, UM, VIDEO OR THEY'RE, THEY'RE DONE BY VIDEO AS WELL.
SO YOU, WE WOULD BE HAPPY IF FOR OUR ASSISTANCE TO DO THAT.
AND, AND THE INFORMATION ON OUR AGENDAS CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE HERE@ALLIANCEWATER.ORG.
UM, IF YOU HAD TO DO WORK ON THE SERVICE LINE PART OF IT LATER IN THE FUTURE, WILL CUSTOMERS BE ABLE TO, UM, FEEL THAT IMPACT? OR IS THAT WHERE THE STORAGE TANKS COME INTO PLAY? AND DO YOU HAVE A BACKUP SHUTOFF SOMEWHERE AT THE SERVICE LINE OF ARAWA? YEAH, WE HAVE INTERMEDIATE VALVES ALONG THE WAY.
SO WE CAN ISOLATE SECTIONS IF THERE, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE LINE.
SO WE CAN ISOLATE THAT AREA AND PERFORM WHATEVER WORK WE NEED TO DO.
IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
STORAGE TANKS CAN HELP FOR A WHILE TO MM-HMM.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE IDENTIFY, WE'LL TRY AND SCHEDULE THAT IN A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN IT'S NOT CRITICAL, UH, FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT WATER SO WE CAN SCHEDULE AND, AND MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.
THERE MAY BE TIMES WHEN THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO COORDINATE CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE O OF THE, THE IMMINENT PROBLEM WE'VE GOTTA GET FIXED.
SO, BUT, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ALL OF THOSE, BUT WE DO HAVE INTERMEDIATE VALVES TO TURN ON, ISOLATE THE AREAS.
SO THE BRANCH SYSTEM IS VERY STRATEGIC FOR THIS, I GUESS TO GO EAST, WEST HERE? YES, SIR.
IT, IT WAS, UH, A LITTLE BIT FROM THE OPERATIONS, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF, WE, WE HAD A KIND OF GEOGRAPHIC DIVERSE AREAS TO TRY AND GET TO.
AND SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE, THE, THE MOST ECONOMICAL WAY TO, TO DO THAT WAS PART OF HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THIS ALIGNMENT.
WILL, WILL WE BE THE MICRO TUNNELS THAT WERE DUG, WILL THEY BE NOTICEABLE AFTER ARWA IS FINISHED AND COMPLETE? NO, THE, THE LAND WILL BE BROUGHT BACK UP TO GRADE.
THERE'LL BE, UH, ACTUALLY A VALVE, UH, BOX AT THE TOP OF IT.
BUT IT, IT'LL LOOK SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER, UM, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE CITY HAS.
THEY WILL NOT BE LEFT WITH BIG HOLES IN THE AREA.
THEY, THEY WILL BE REFILLED AND BROUGHT BACK UP TO GRADE.
ANY, ANYONE ELSE? UM, I STRUGGLED A LITTLE WITH THE OCTOBER DEADLINE FOR THE NEXT TIME WE GET A, AN UPDATE.
THAT WAS THE ONLY PART OF THAT THAT, SO, UH, FORWARDING, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT AS AN EXAMPLE, COMMISSIONER INGLESBY, WHEN SHE WAS DOING THE ONE 50 EAST EXPANSION PROJECT UNDER HER OFFICE, THE, UM, THE, HER OFFICE ISSUED WEEKLY UPDATES, NOT LONG EXHAUST.
IT WAS, THIS IS THE WORK THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED THIS WEEK.
AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A DEADLINE AND THAT DEADLINE IS THE THING THAT EVERYONE'S WATCHING.
AND WE DON'T KNOW IF YOUR DEADLINE IS SLIPPING OR NOT SLIPPING UNLESS WE HAVE REGULAR UPDATES TO SEE, ALL RIGHT, WE GOT A LITTLE BEHIND, OR WE HAD RAIN ALL WEEK, SO WE GOT A LITTLE BEHIND.
AND SO MY REQUEST FOR YOU WOULD BE NOT TO SUGGEST THAT WE ALL GO TO THE CITY OF KYLE'S OR THIS, UH, ARAWA BOARD'S WEBSITE TO TRY TO FIND THE INFORMATION, BUT RATHER THAT WE GET WEEKLY OR, OR, OR WEEKLY UPDATES ON, ON JUST THE WAY COMMISSIONER ENGS BE DONE.
YOU CAN REFERENCE IT, WHICH IS THIS IS THE WORK THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED THIS WEEK.
NOT EXTENSIVE OR ON, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ON THE ENTIRE ARAWA PROJECT, BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT PHASE C BECAUSE WE'VE NOW GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE CONSTRUCTION HAS BE, HAS BEGUN.
WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A DEADLINE AND WE ARE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW INCREASINGLY, ESPECIALLY THIS SUMMER AS AS IT'S HOT, LIKE, ARE WE GONNA MEET THE, THE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE THE TAPS ON BEFORE NEXT SUMMER, RIGHT? OR ARE WE NOT? AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, PERFECTLY BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION DELAYS AND THE, LIKE, EVERY PROJECT I'VE, UH, BEEN A PART OF OR HAVE, UH, FOR, FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS HAS BEEN DELAYED WITH ALMOST NO EXCEPTIONS.
R WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE, BUT R WAS AN 18 YEAR PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AND SO THERE'S SOME UNDERSTANDING THERE, BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT IS COME OCTOBER THAT THE PROJECT GOT PUSHED WHEN WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW ALL ALONG THE WAY.
SO WE ARE PROVIDING MONTHLY UPDATES TO THE CITY OF KYLE TO UPDATE BOTH ON THE WEBSITE, THE C'S WEBSITE, AS WELL AS THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA TO PROVIDE THOSE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ONCE A QUARTER THAT I'LL BE, UH, GIVING YOU UPDATES.
THERE ARE SOME INTERMEDIATE UPDATES IF WE WANNA LOOK AT INCREASING THAT FREQUENCY.
I WOULD SUGGEST EVERY OTHER WEEK THAT'S REALLY THE, THE TIMESCALE IN WHICH WE MEET WITH THE CONTRACTORS AND REVET THEIR, UH, THEIR SCHEDULES AND COULD GIVE A MORE, A TRUE UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO WE COULD CERTAINLY PASS ALONG INFORMATION ON A BIWEEKLY BASIS AFTER WE MEET WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE THAT'S AT.
REALLY JUST, THIS IS WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED IN THE WORLD OF THAT PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A PRESENTATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE, BUT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISTRIBUTED FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE, UH, AWARE OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WATCHING IT VERY CLOSELY.
BUT ALSO WE'RE THE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WANTS TO FOLLOW ALONG TO KNOW WHETHER WE'RE GONNA HIT
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THAT MARK YEAH.CAN FOLLOW WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT FOR WORK SPECIFIC STAFF TO PROVIDE THOSE UPDATES, UH, ON A BIWEEKLY BASIS AND, AND DETERMINE HOW BEST TO GET THOSE SHARED.
COUNCILOR HARRIS, ALSO, WE HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THE WARD BOARD.
AND THE WARD BOARD MEETS MONTHLY.
UM, WE HAVE STAFF WHO ARE ON THE BOARD AS WELL, SO WE BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TOO, BUT I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE IT COME FROM GRAHAM.
WELL THAT'S WHY I, I KNOW THAT WE COULD OUR OWN, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA.
ARE WE BEING IN CHARGE OF GIVING US THOSE UPDATES? SURELY THAT MAKES SENSE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU GRAHAM.
[4) Receive a report and hold a discussion on the City's water system, supply and demand, and associated capital improvement projects. ]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION ON CITY'S WATER SYSTEM SUPPLY AND DEMAND, AND ASSOCIATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
TIM SANFORD, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WATER SUPPLY.
THIS IS, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION UP ON THE, MAYBE.
SO I WANT TO GO OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE OUR WATER COMES FROM JUST TO GIVE SOME EMPHASIS OF, UH, THE LATER ON IN THE PRESENT PRESENTATION.
SO, GBRA BEING THE FIRST ONE ON THE, THE BULLET POINT HERE, UH, THAT IS A CONTRACT WE HAVE THAT COMES OUTTA CANYON LAKE IS TREATED DOWN IN ST.
MARCUS AT THEIR SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
THE CITY ALSO HAS A CONSERVATION PERMIT, OR SORRY, CONSERVATION DISTRICT PERMIT WITH EAA.
WE'RE ALSO PERMITTED THROUGH BARTON SPRINGS, EDWARD ROCKFORD CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
UH, WE HAVE EMERGENCY INTERCONNECT WITH THE CITY OF ST.
AND JUST LIKE WE GOT THROUGH TALKING ABOUT WITH ALLIANCE, WE HAVE AN EXPECT EXPECTATION OF FEBRUARY, 2025 TO RECEIVE, BEGIN RECEIVING WATER AT OUR 1626 SITE.
THAT'S AN ALLIANCE, UH, WATER SUPPLY.
SO IT'S JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF SUPPLY AND WHERE THEY COME FROM.
UH, THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TRY TO TRY TO HIT ON IS A, A QUESTION THAT WE'RE ASKED VERY OFTEN IS, HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT RESTRICTIONS? HOW DID YOU DECIDE ON THAT? WE GOT RAIN YESTERDAY, YOU'RE ASKING ME STILL IT TO ONLY IRRIGATE ONCE A WEEK OR ONCE EVERY OTHER WEEK.
UM, HOW ARE YOU COMING TO THOSE DIFFICULT DECISIONS? SO HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS LISTED JUST A, A BRIEF SUMMARY OF WHAT WE MONITOR IN TERMS OF STAFF AND PERSONNEL, WHAT WE LOOK AT.
SO TO MAKE THOSE DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
SO BEGINNING WITH THE GBRA SUPPLY, LIKE I MENTIONED, THAT IS A CANYON LAKE RESERVOIR, UH, LEVEL THAT WE LOOK AT.
CANYON LAKE IS SITTING AT 56% FULL RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND THAT WAS AS OF EARLY JULY.
AND GBA HAS IMPLEMENTED A STAGE THREE DROUGHT DUE TO THAT LEVEL ON THAT LAKE.
SO THAT IS A VOLUNTARY 15% REDUCTION.
UH, THE NEXT LEVEL REDUCTION FOR CANYON LAKE IS A MANDATORY REDUCTION FOR GBA.
SO THAT'S, THAT IS A BIG, BIG IMPACT.
THAT IS OUR BIGGEST WATER SUPPLY THAT THE CITY HAS.
SO JUST, JUST BE THINKING ABOUT THAT PLEASE.
OUR NEXT ONE THAT I WANNA MENTION IS OUR EEA PERMANENT.
SO WE HAVE A J 17 INDEX WELL, AND THE SAN MARCUS AND COMAL SPRINGS FLOW THAT THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT EA LOOKS AT TO DECIDE WHERE THEIR STAGE DROUGHT IS GOING TO TO FALL.
AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE AT, UH, STAGE FOUR, WHICH IS A 40% REDUCTION TO THE CITY OF KYLES PERMIT.
AND THE NEXT YOU HAVE BAR TIM.
WAS THAT, THAT'S MANDATORY, CORRECT? THAT IS MANDATORY, YES, SIR.
UH, AND BARTON SPRINGS IS OUR NEXT ONE.
SO CURRENTLY THEY'RE IN STAGE TWO AND THEY LOOK AT THE BARTON DISCHARGE AND THEY LOOK AT LOVE LADY MONITORING.
WELL, UM, THAT ONE IS, IS HAS SOME OF THE SAME INFLUENCE AS EAA, BUT DIFFERENT MONITORING POINTS DIS DIFFERENT CONSERVA D DIFFERENT CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
SO THAT, THAT'S ALL THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT AS STAFF.
UH, WE CONSTANTLY MONITOR THIS ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE MEET WITH THE EXECUTIVE STAFF ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, JUST PATHS GOING FORWARD, LOOKING AT ALL THESE PROJECTIONS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE INTIMATELY INVOLVED AND LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS AND MAKING THOSE REALLY CHALLENGING DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE FOR, FOR WATER DEMANDS.
AND THEN THERE, AT THE LAST BULLET POINT, WE JUST WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE WHERE WE WERE IN JUNE OF 20 2023 VERSUS WHERE WE ARE IN JUNE OF 2024.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMANDS, WE'RE AT 4.7 AND 23, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE AT 4.2.
WHILE YES, THE RAINFALL THAT WE'VE HAD HAS SOME IMPACT TO THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S A, THAT COULD, THAT IS AN EFFORT BY OUR CUSTOMERS.
THAT'S AN EFFORT BY STAFF TO, TO CONSERVE THAT, THAT WATER SUPPLY THAT WE DO HAVE.
AND THAT IS, THAT IS SHOWN IN THE DEMANDS THAT WE HAVE THERE.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT I HAVE IS JUST TO
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HELP DEMONSTRATE, UM, WHAT OUR PERMITS LOOK LIKE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE DIFFERENT SUPPLIES THAT I DESCRIBED.SO I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS OF THIS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE THE PERMITS WITH RESTRICTIONS, PERMIT AF AFTER RESTRICTIONS.
AND WHEN I SAY AFTER RESTRICTIONS, THAT JUST MEANS LIKE EEA HAS IMPLEMENTED THE 40% RESTRICTIONS.
SO WE'RE JUST APPLYING THAT TO TRY TO HELP US FORECAST WHAT OUR CAPACITIES MAY BE GOING THROUGH THAT PHYSICAL YEAR OR CALENDAR YEAR.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGES THAT WE'VE USED TO DATE.
SO AS, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE STILL HAVE AMPLE SUPPLY BASED ON THE PERMITS AND THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR CURRENT DEMANDS, GIVEN THE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE.
SO I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY WE'RE, WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT WHERE WE ARE NOW.
WE DO HAVE SOME VERY HOT DRY WEATHER COMING UPON US.
UM, BURROW DIDN'T SEEM TO PRODUCE AS MUCH AS I HAD HOPED IT WOULD HAVE, BUT WE STILL GOT MUCH, MUCH LONGER TO GO IN THE HURRICANE SEASON.
CAN I, CAN I JUMP IN REAL QUICK, TIM? YES SIR.
YEAH, SO GOING BACK TO THE TABLE.
SO IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO EXPRESS THIS MOVING FORWARD IN THE ACRE FEET? UH, WATER? BECAUSE JUST TO DO THE QUICK MATH, WE'RE ALLOWED 6,000, UM, 933 ACRE FEET OF WATER WITH THE PERMIT RESTRICTIONS.
AND WE'VE USED 2000, UM, WITH THE PERMIT RESTRICTIONS.
AND THAT'S A LITTLE EASIER THAN LOOKING AT THE, THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER.
SO IF, IF IT'S A SIMPLE NUMBER AND IT, I THINK MOST PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT'S HOW MUCH ACREAGE OF ONE FOOT OF WATER IS WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO USE.
WE, WE WERE IS IS THAT OKAY? UH, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW THIS AND, AND NOT SWITCH BACK FROM ACRE FEET TO BEING GALLONS PER DAY TO, TO GALLONS.
WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND WHEN WE DEVELOP THIS CHART AND, AND FUTURE PRESENTATIONS AND HOPEFULLY MAKE THAT A LITTLE EASIER TO INTERPRET.
JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THROUGH THIS IS, IS NOT ALWAYS THE EASIEST THING.
AND THERE ARE BIG, THERE ARE A LOT OF NUM, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF GALLONS.
SO IT'S LIKE, HOW DO YOU SIMPLIFY? RIGHT.
NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT I WANT, I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 7,000 ACRES OF ACRE FEET OF WATER THAT WE CAN BORROW, WE CAN USE.
AND WE'RE, WE'VE USED, UM, 2000 OF IT SURE.
MUCH FAST, MUCH FASTER TO CONVERT.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPINION.
WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE THOUGH? SEVEN, 7,000 ACRE FEET IS OUR ANNUAL SUPPLY AND WE'VE USED 2000 OF IT IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT WITHOUT BUSTING OUT A CALCULATOR.
IT'S 320 500 AND 325 851 US GALLONS IS ONE ACRE FOOT.
SO YOU DIVIDE YOUR TOTAL PERMITTED BY THAT.
RIGHT? SO I, IT'S ONE FOOT OF WATER COVERING THE ENTIRE ACRE.
SO MAYBE THE BETTER QUESTION IS AS, AS IT RELATES TO WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE YEAR, RIGHT? IN TERMS OF ACRE FEE, ARE WE, ARE WE WITH ALL THE RESTRICTIONS IN THE 40% AND 15 AND ALL THAT, ARE WE, ARE WE IN DANGER RIGHT NOW AS YOU SEE IT, OF HITTING THE SAME PLACE THAT WE WERE IN LAST YEAR WHERE WE HAVE TO INCREASE RESTRICTIONS 'CAUSE PEOPLE WATERED BASICALLY WE'RE EXCEEDED OUR SUPPLY AND HAD TO MAKE ADDITIONAL CUTS? OR DO YOU, BASED ON THE PROJECTION THAT WE'RE ON THIS YEAR, ARE WE GONNA MAKE IT, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE INCREASING RESTRICTIONS AS THEY ARE SET TODAY.
UM, WE ARE CLOSELY MONITORING THAT.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME TRIGGER POINTS THAT INTERNALLY WE'RE WATCHING FOR, UM, WHILE WE'VE GOTTEN SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO THAT THROUGH THE YEAR.
THIS RAIN THAT WE'VE RECEIVED DEFINITELY HELPS.
AND SO AGAIN, ALL THE CONSERVATION EFFORTS OF IRRIGATION IS, IS OUR BIGGEST, THAT THAT IS OUR BIGGEST USE UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT, UH, WE ARE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE BUILT THIS CHARGE TO DEMONSTRATE WE HAVE THE CAPACITY.
WE JUST HAVE TO KEEP THIS PEAKING DEMANDS DOWN, WHICH IS A RESULT OF IRRIGATION.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? WELL, THE QUESTION WAS WHERE ARE WE AT IN RELATION TO THE SUPPLY ON THE YEAR? LIKE IF, IF BASED ON HALF THE YEAR, WHICH IS, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE, WE'RE AT LIKE NINE MONTHS OUT OF THE 12.
SO IF WE'RE ONLY AT TWO OUTTA SEVEN, THEN THAT MATH IN MY MIND MAKES ME THINK THAT WE HAVE A LOT MORE SUPPLY, UH, THAN WHAT WE'RE NEEDING.
AND WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS IF YOU COULD PUT, THIS IS HOW MUCH WATER WE'VE RECEIVED, THIS IS HOW MUCH OUR DEMAND HAS BEEN, AND WE'RE IN A, WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT OR A BAD SPOT, WE'RE AT THE 50% POINT OF THE YEAR NOW AND OR WE'RE A LITTLE BIT PAST THE 50% POINT.
WE HAVE A SLIDE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
AND, AND THE DIFFERENCE FROM BETWEEN MAYOR, IF I COULD, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED MORE RAIN.
SO IN, UH, APRIL WE RECEIVED FIVE INCHES OF RAIN.
WE DIDN'T DO THAT LAST YEAR IN MAY, WE RECEIVED OVER SIX INCHES OF RAIN.
JUNE, WE'VE GOT THREE INCHES OF RAIN.
AND EVEN RIGHT NOW, UH, IN JULY, WE'VE GOTTEN
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2.5 INCHES OF RAIN WITH MORE EXPECTED.SO, BUT HERE'S, WE'VE HAD A BETTER YEAR.
HERE'S WHAT SCARES ME ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS TRUE.
AND WE ALSO, LAST YEAR WE'RE NOT IN DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS OR WE, I THINK WE WERE IN STATE, WE DIDN'T GO TO STAGE THREE, WE'RE IN LESS OF A DROUGHT RESTRICTION.
WE WERE IN LESS DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS.
WE HAD THE WORST DROUGHT WE'VE HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
AND SO, BUT THE LAKES ARE STILL DOWN IS WHAT IT, IT'S, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ARE WE ACTUALLY IN A BETTER POSITION NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THAT RAIN? SO, OR NOT? 'CAUSE IT, IT JUST DOESN'T, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME.
SO, SO THE RAIN DOES TRICKLE DOWN RIGHT.
FROM THE HIGHLAND LAKES AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
SO RIGHT NOW, LAKE LAKE BUCHANAN'S AT ABOUT 80% FULL AND THEY'RE STILL RECEIVING RAIN.
EVENTUALLY THAT'LL, UH, OPEN UP FLOODGATES AND WORK ITS WAY DOWN TO TRAVIS.
AND THEN IT'S ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE COMING IN THE FUTURE.
SO IF WE HAVE THE RAIN COMING IN, WE'RE OKAY.
WE'RE NOT WATERING AS MUCH AND THE RESTRICTIONS DON'T REALLY HURT US AS, YOU KNOW, OUR YARDS AS THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS IS JUST MAKING SURE THE RESTRICTIONS.
I, FOR ME, I FEEL LIKE EVEN IF WE HAVE THE ABUNDANCE OF RAIN, WE SHOULDN'T BE WATERING OUR YARDS FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A DAY.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M KIND OF THINKING, UH, YOU KNOW, OR FIVE, FOUR OR FIVE TIMES A WEEK.
SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE RESTRICTIONS BEING IN PLACE.
BUT I I I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN THE SAME SPOT WE WERE LAST YEAR.
WELL, SO I'VE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS ON TWO ISSUES THAT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR.
AND THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING.
NUMBER ONE IS FOLKS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO USE THE CAR WASHES ON THE INTERSTATE IN VARIOUS PLACES.
UH, AND UH, I THINK IT'S CONVENIENT AND THEY RECYCLE THEIR WATER.
SO THE FACT THAT THEY RECYCLE THEIR WATER MEANS THAT GETTING YOUR CAR WASH THERE IS VERY EFFICIENT FROM A WATER USE STANDPOINT AS OPPOSED TO WATERING OR WASHING YOUR CAR IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
HOWEVER, THERE'S A BUTT FOR EVERY SEAT THAT'S A MOTORCYCLE TERM, RIGHT? SO LIKE, NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO PAY FOR A MEMBERSHIP AND GO, BUT THEY WANNA WASH THEIR CAR IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
BUT ACCORDING TO STAGE THREE DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
AND SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE LEAVE STAGE THREE, BUT WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS IF WE CAN DO IT IN A SAFE AND UH, RESPONSIBLE WAY, WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO WASH THEIR CARS.
AND NUMBER TWO IS FOUNDATIONS.
SO SOAKER HOSES AREN'T ALLOWED UNDER STAGE THREE DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS.
AND YET A LOT OF THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT, ESPECIALLY AS KYLE GROWS, WE HAVE ALL THESE NEW FOUNDATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN AND THEY'RE SETTLING.
AND SO IF THEY GET PUT IN ON, YOU KNOW, WET, GOOD SOIL AND THEN IT GOES INTO DROUGHT AND THEY CAN'T WATER AROUND THEIR FOUNDATION, IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES DO NOT COVER.
AND SO I WORRY THAT I'M THAT ACROSS THE CITY, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY CREATING KIND OF A, A, A FUTURE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON PEOPLE WITHOUT NECESSARILY KNOWING IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY.
AND SO THE CARWASH IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THE ABILITY TO PUT SOAKER HOSES AROUND YOUR FOUNDATION ARE TWO THINGS THAT I THINK BOTH COULD HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL AS PRESERVING THE ASSETS THAT WE DO HAVE.
JUST LIKE WE WATER OUR TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE MAY LET THE GRASS DIE, BUT WE DON'T LET THE TREE EYE.
I'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT BEING ABLE TO ADD THOSE TWO THINGS BACK.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO THE COMMUNITY.
BUT IF I DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT, WHETHER WE HAVE THAT BANDWIDTH OR NOT, THEN I CAN'T MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON WHETHER THAT'S GOOD.
SO I THINK I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON WHERE WE'RE AT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
AND DEFINITELY THE, THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE IRRIGATION ON THE, THE SLABS FOR, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT FROM SETTLING RIGHT.
AND THEN THE CAR WASHING OF CARS, WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE THAT A TOPIC IN OUR IN OUR NEXT MEETING.
SO, WELL YOU'RE ALLOWED TO WATER WITH YOUR, WITH A HOSE.
BUT NOBODY IS GONNA WALK AROUND THEIR ENTIRE HOUSE WATERING THEIR FOUNDATION.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE SOAKER HOSE PART OF IT COMES IN.
BUT THEN WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOAKER HOSE AND WATERING YOUR LAWN? I DON'T KNOW.
SO, UM, MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING POINTS.
THIS IS A CALENDAR YEAR BASIS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO FROM JANUARY TO DECEMBER, SO THE, THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN IS THE 29%, THAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THE SUPPLY THAT HAS BEEN USED TO DATE.
AND SO WHETHER THAT'S ACRE FEED, MM-HMM.
YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE 50% BARELY THROUGH THE YEAR AND WE'RE 29%.
BUT ALL YEARS ARE NOT TREATED THE SAME.
AND SO WHEN YOU GET INTO JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, THE USAGE GOES WAY UP.
AND SO WE EXPECT TO USE QUITE A BIT OF WATER IN THESE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
AND I THINK IT'S 10 WILL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S USED ON A, ON AN MGD BASIS PER DAY AND THE PEAKING FACTOR THAT WE SEE IN THE WATERING THE IRRIGATION SEASONS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO REALLY WATCH IN ADDITION TO THE SUPPLY.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE LOOK AT BRINGING IN ARAWA WILL GIVE US MORE CAPACITY FOR THOSE PEAK DAY USAGE, UH, MOMENTS.
UH, THAT'S WHAT THAT LIMITS WHAT WE HAVE IN A SUPPLY, WHAT WE CAN PUMP, HOW MUCH WE CAN GET OUT, AND ALSO A SUPPLY ISSUE.
SO IT'S A COMP COMBINATION OF, OF A COUPLE OF COMPLICATED FACTORS.
SO WE'LL TRY TO DEMYSTIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT ON A COUPLE SLIDES TO, TO TAG A LITTLE BIT ONTO WHAT YOU
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SAID AND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO SAID.WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT WATER SOURCES.
UM, THE HIGHLAND LAKES, WE DON'T GET ANY WATER FROM, BUT WE DO FROM CANYON LAKE.
THAT'S GBRA THAT YOU'VE INDICATED HERE.
IT'S THAT SURFACE WATER THAT THE RAIN IN OUR AREA AFFECTS THAT DRAMATICALLY.
THE EDWARDS AQUIFER IS, IS THE SAN IT'S ALL THE REST OF THAT.
SO EDWARDS AQUIFER, THAT PERMIT IS A SAN ANTONIO POOL.
YOU HAVE A YOU VALLEY POOL, AND YOU HAVE A SAN ANTONIO POOL.
THAT'S THAT CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
UH, THE MARKET SAN MARCUS AGREEMENT AND THE SAN MARCUS INTERCONNECT ARE ALL OUT OF THE EDWARDS AQUIFER.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE CARO COMING IN THAT ENHANCES OUR, UM, WATER SUPPLY.
SO JUST TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR ABOUT, WELL, WHERE THE WATER'S COMING FROM, THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, UM, FILLS UP FAIRLY QUICKLY IF IT RAINS, IF WE GET REALLY GOOD RAIN.
UM, AND THE CARRIZO DOESN'T FILL UP AS QUICKLY, BUT IT'S A VERY, VERY BIG AND DEEP AQUIFER.
SO, AND OF COURSE, SURFACE WATER REQUIRES RAIN, SPECIFICALLY IN KERRVILLE AREA.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DROUGHT CHART.
I I, MY FOLKS HAVE A LIVE ON A, HAVE A LAKE HOUSE UP IN A FISHING LAKE WAY FAR IN THE NORTHEAST.
LAKE BELTON LAST SUMMER WENT GRASS.
I'VE NEVER SEEN IT IN MY 40 YEARS.
UH, AND IN TWO MONTHS, RAIN, UH, THE WATER WAS UP TO THE BRIDGE.
UH, AND WHICH IS VERY, VERY GOOD FOR THOSE FOLKS.
LAKE BELT AND SUPPLIES WATER TO A LOT OF IMPORTANT FARM COMMUNITIES IN SMALLER TOWNS.
UM, OUR LAKE SYSTEM IS JUST NOT PRODUCED THAT I JUST WANT STRUGGLING.
I JUST WANNA STRESS, UM, THE, I GUESS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT TWO OF THESE REALLY THOUGH, ARE SAN MARCUS WATER.
SO I DON'T WANT TO COUNT THOSE AS WATER SOURCES BECAUSE IT IS ANOTHER CITY'S WATER, RIGHT.
SO, WELL, IT'S EDWARD'S AQUIFER WATER.
WE ARE PAYING FOR THE SAN MARCO WATER.
AND SO WE ARE GOING TO USE IT, BUT I, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW RELIABLE IT WILL BE TO CONTINUE WITH IT, SO I KNOW THE OTHERS WILL BE AROUND.
BUT ISN'T THAT, BUT, BUT WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT, AND SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT THE SAN MARCUS WATER.
BUT LIKE, IS IT ALWAYS THERE NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER, CAN'T THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANNA SELL IT? IT'S GUARANTEED FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
SO IT'S LIKE, WHEN WE CALL IT A WATER SOURCE, I WANNA MAKE, WELL, I WANNA BE CLEAR THAT IT IS A WATER SOURCE, NOT, THAT IS NOT A WATER SOURCE.
YOU COULD, THE AQUIFER IS WATER SOURCE, CALLED IT A WATER SOURCE SOURCE.
IT IS ALLOCATED BY PERCENTAGE OF NEED, WHICH WAS DONE YEARS AGO.
AND IT WAS UNANTICIPATED THAT KYLE WOULD GROW THIS RAPIDLY.
SO OUR PERCENTAGE OF ALLOCATION FROM THE EDWARDS AQUIFER IS LESS THAN OUR NEED WAS.
SAN MARCUS HAS GROWN NOT AS QUICKLY AS WAS ANTICIPATED.
SO THEY HAVE NOT UTILIZED THEIR FULL NEED.
THE WATER IS OUT OF THE SAME SPOT.
SO ALL WE ARE DOING IS ASKING SAN MARCUS BY A CONTRACT TO ALLOW US TO USE SOME OF THEIR ALLOCATION OUT OF THE EDWARDS.
IF WE WERE TO GO BACK TO THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY AT SOME POINT, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW REALISTIC THAT IS, AND SAY, HEY, CAN WE RE REVISIT? MM-HMM.
BUT THIS IS A MUCH EASIER AND SIMPLER SYSTEM TO DO RIGHT NOW TO GET US THROUGH WHERE THE IS COMING.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE SAN MARCUS WATER.
IF EDWARDS AQUIFER WATCH, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE, I THOUGHT WE WERE LIKE SQUEEZING THEIR NECK LIKE THIS.
YOU GOTTA GIVE US THIS ALL SO SHAKING HANDS.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A REALLY IMPORTANT HISTORY LESSON THAT FOLKS NEED TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE WAY OUR WATER SYSTEMS HAVE COME ONLINE.
BUTA, KYLE SAN MARCOS, THE CANYON REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, AND VARIOUS OTHER ENTITIES JOINED UP MM-HMM.
WE ALL HAD DIFFERENT WATER NEEDS.
BUTA NEEDED WATER FASTER THAN KYLE DID.
UH, KYLE NEEDED WATER FASTER THAN SAN MARCOS DID, BUT WE COULDN'T CULTIVATE A CARRIZO TYPE PROJECT WITHOUT EVERYONE GETTING TOGETHER.
SO HOW DO YOU MAKE PARTNERS WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THEY ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED DIFFERENT WATER AT DIFFERENT TIMES? IT'S THROUGH INTERCONNECTS.
SO SAN MARCOS AND KYLE MADE AN INTERCONNECT.
KYLE AND BUTTA MADE AN INTERCONNECT.
AND THEN SAN MARCOS, KYLE AND BUTTA GOT TOGETHER AND STARTED ON A 20 YEAR PROJECT.
SO THE SHARING BETWEEN KYLE, WE HAVE SHARED WATER WITH BUTTA.
BUTTA HAS SHARED WATER WITH KYLE.
KYLE SHARED WATER WITH SAN MARCOS, AND MARCOS HAS SHARED WATER WITH KYLE, VARIOUS POINTS IN TIME.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, WE RAN OUTTA WATER SAN MARCOS, WILL YOU SAVE US?
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YEAH.THIS IS 18 YEARS OF VERY GOOD PLANNING FOR WATER, UH, WATER SYSTEM TO COME ONLINE.
SO SAN MARCOS MAKING THAT PROVISION TO US IS CONSISTENT AND ALLOWS FOR US AND SAN MARCOS TO FOCUS ON THE ARWA PROJECT, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THE LONG TERM GOAL HAS BEEN.
SO, JUST, IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT FOLKS KNOW THAT IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY SORT OF SITUATION WITH SAN MARCOS WHO WAS EXPECTED AND ENVISIONED FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE DONE THIS.
HOW MANY YEARS HAVE WE DONE THIS? SO WE JUST SIGNED THIS THREE YEAR AGREEMENT THAT TEXAS 3 26 AND KNOW THERE WAS TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THAT.
SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE SPAN OF TIME WHEN THE PROJECT HAS BEEN DELAYED TWO YEARS AGO IS WHEN AR WAS SUPPOSED TO COME ONLINE.
AND SO SAN MARCOS HAS TO MAKE THIS MOVE WITH US, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE WE ARE PARTNERS.
WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY COMPUTERS ON WATER.
IT WAS KIND OF CALLED AS AN EMERGENCY.
THAT'S WHY I WAS, I KNOW THE WAY, THE WAY IT WENT DOWN, IT CREATED, IT DIDN'T DOWN, IT CREATED A LITTLE BIT OF IT AIN'T GO DOWN.
BUT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, WHICH IS TO DR.
HARRIS'S POINT, EXACTLY WHY SHE'S NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR POINT WITH SAN MARCOS AND THE CITY OF COLLEGE.
'CAUSE SHE'S ON THE BOARD AND SHE UNDERSTANDS HOW OUR WATER PROVIDERS, OUR, OUR VARIOUS FOLKS THAT ARE ON THAT BOARD THINK.
SO IT'S NOT AS RISKY AS WHAT YOU MIGHT OTHERWISE SAY.
SO OUR NEXT SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER SOME OF THE CIP PROJECTS AND DEVELOPER DRIVEN PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN CONSTRUCTION OR SOON TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.
I WANNA START WITH THE CROSS WINDS WATER FACILITIES.
SO FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T COMPLETELY AWARE WHERE THAT'S AT, YOU TAKE WINDY HILL ROAD TO CROSSWIND SUBDIVISION.
JUST BEHIND THE AMENITY CENTER, YOU'LL FIND A ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AND A GROUND STORAGE TANK.
UH, THAT PROJECT IS, UH, SCHEDULED TO COME ONLINE JULY, WELL, I'M SORRY, THIS MONTH ACTUALLY.
SO, AND THAT WILL BE OUR THIRD TAKE POINT WITH GBRA.
UH, ONCE THAT TAKE POINT COMES ONLINE, WE'LL JUST DIVVY UP AMONGST THE THREE TAKE POINTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.
UH, THAT WILL PROVIDE US WITH MORE STORAGE GROUND AND ELEVATED STORAGE JUST FOR ADDITIONAL REDUNDANCY.
AND IT WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
UH, THE NEXT PROJECT IS A HOOVER DRIVE WATER FACILITY EXPANSION.
THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION, SORRY, LET ME LET YOU KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT.
THIS IS OUT AT THE ANTHEM SUBDIVISION.
SO IF YOU TAKE ONE 50 GOING WEST SIDE OF TOWN, YOU'LL SEE A BIG CONCRETE STRUCTURE COMING OUTTA THE BACK OF ALL THOSE HOUSES.
THAT'S A 1 MILLION GALLON ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.
THAT'LL BE WITHIN OUR PRESSURE PLANE NUMBER THREE.
AGAIN, THAT'LL JUST SUPPLY US WITH THE NECESSARY CAPACITY THAT THAT PRESSURE PLANE IS, IS NEEDING.
UH, AND THE NEXT WATER FACILITY IS A WATER STONE WATER FACILITY.
SO WE ARE GOING OUT FOR BID OUR ADVERTISING THIS BEGINNING TOMORROW.
SO THAT'LL BE ON CIV CAST, THAT'LL BE ON HAYES FREE PRESS.
AND THIS PROJECT IS PART OF OUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY OF KYLE, I THINK, IN THE APPROXIMATE AMOUNT OF $12 MILLION, I BELIEVE, UM, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL TO GO TO THE 1626 PROJECT.
BUT THE WAY THAT THAT PROJECT HAD TO BE FUNDED, UM, WE MOVED THE FUNDS OVER WITH ARPA, OUR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUND ACT TO THIS WATER PLAN WATER FACILITY AT WATERSTONE.
AND THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN WATERSTONE SUBDIVISION ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN.
THAT PROJECT'S GONNA BE COMPLETED IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT PHASES UNDER THE SAME CONTRACT.
IT'LL BE A GROUND STORAGE TANK AND ALL THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT TO ACCEPT ALLIANCE WATER BEGINNING IN APRIL OF 2025, AND MOVE THAT INTO THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
UM, GOING BEYOND THAT DATE, WE'RE GONNA BE CONTINUING CONSTRUCTION WITH AN ELEVATED STORAGE SINK AT THAT SITE.
SO YOU'LL SEE SOME CONSTRUCTION THAT CONTINUES THERE, BUT IT'S JUST PART OF FINISHING OUT THE PROJECT.
AND, AND YOU'LL SEE ON THESE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ALLIANCE PROJECTS, WE'RE FOCUSING ON GIVING OURSELVES THE ABILITY TO TAKE THAT WATER IN AND GET IT INTO THE SYSTEM TO PROVIDE SOME RELIEF, RELIEF TO THE DEMANDS THAT WE'RE SEEING.
SO MOVING ON, JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON THE 1626 PROJECT CONSTRUCTION IS GOING REALLY WELL.
WE HAVE AN AWESOME CONTRACTOR, ARCHER WESTERN.
HE'S DOING A FABULOUS JOB FOR US.
WE MEET WITH, WITH THEM ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
SO WE'RE STILL HOLDING TO THAT FEBRUARY OF 2025, UH, TIMEFRAME FOR WHICH WE WILL HAVE THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AT THAT SITE CONSTRUCTED.
THAT WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE ALLIANCE WATER AT THAT SITE, MOVE IT INTO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, UM, FOLLOWING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT GROUND STORAGE TANK, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED FEBRUARY 25.
THERE'LL BE A SECOND PHASE OF THAT PROJECT.
SO YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE CONSTRUCTION AT THAT SITE.
THAT'LL INCLUDE A BUMP, A PUMP BUILDING, A GENERATOR, CHLORINE BUILDING, AND MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENTS THERE AT 1626.
FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHERE 1626 IS, THIS IS GONNA BE WEST OF HUB, IT'LL BE, UH, NORTH SIDE OF THE OVERPASS GOING OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
UM, SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO ANOTHER LOCATION CALLED WELL FOUR
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OR ALSO THE LAVERDE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK OVER OFF KOHLER CROSSING.THAT'S PART OF THE SAME 1626 EXPANSION.
THAT SITE IS ALSO GONNA GET A NEW BOOSTER PUMP STATION, A CHLORINE BUILDING, A GENERATOR, AND SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THAT'S JUST PART OF THE LARGER SCHEME OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MOVE THIS ALLIANCE WATER EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY THROUGH OUR ENTIRE WATER SYSTEM AND MAKE THE BO MAKE THE MOST USE OF THAT 1.73 THAT WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING IN FEBRUARY OF 2025.
THIS IS JUST A QUICK PHOTO SNAP OF WHAT THE 1626 PROJECT IS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT CIRCULAR AREA THERE WHERE THEY'RE DOING SOME SUBGRADE WORK THAT HAS SINCE BEEN COMPLETED.
THEY'RE DONE WITH THE SUBGRADE WORK AND WE ARE EXPECTING THAT THE TANK MAIN OR TANK BUILDER IS GONNA BE ON SITE IN AUGUST.
SO A LOT OF FUN ACTIVITIES ARE GONNA BE TAKING PLACE THERE.
A LOT OF, UH, INTEREST IN CONSTRUCTION ONCE WE START SEEING THAT TANK GOING, GOING, UH, GOING UP.
SO THE NEXT UPDATE I WANT TO GIVE YOU IS ON THE WATER MASTER PLAN.
THIS IS, SORRY I MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING MY NOTES HERE ON THE WATER MASTER PLAN.
THIS IS ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR US.
UM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS CONDUCTED A WATER MASTER PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM TO DATE THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UH, AND JUST KNOW THAT AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS WATER MASTER PLAN, WE ARE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR, WE'RE GONNA A 10 YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 50 YEAR DEMAND FOR ALL THE PROJECTIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO HELP US EVALUATE THE WATER SOURCES, TO HELP US LOOK AT THE EXISTING WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED.
WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING GUIDANCE ON FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
WE'RE GONNA BE RECOMMENDING BUDGETS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THOSE CIP PROJECTS.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE UPDATING OUR DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN AND OUR WATER WATER CONSERVATION PLAN.
SO A LOT OF EFFORTS ARE GONNA BE PUT INTO THOSE LAST TWO ITEMS, THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN AND WATER CONSERVATION PLAN IN A, IN A HOPEFULLY A HELPFUL WAY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND RESIDENTS TO BETTER INTERPRET WHY WE'RE IMPLEMENTING DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS, HOW WE'RE IMPLEMENTING THESE DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS, AND WHAT TRIGGERS WE'RE USING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE DROUGHT RESTRICTIONS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WATER CONSERVATION PLAN IS IN THE, THE PLAN FOR LANDSCAPING ORDINANCES AND HOW, LIKE WHAT IS, WHAT IS A CITY WATER CONSERVATION PLAN? JUST I DON'T NEED THE ALL OF IT JUST TO, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'LL GO TO ORDINANCES SUCH AS WHAT YOU CAN PLANT, WHAT YOU CAN'T PLANT A WATER CONSERVATION PLANT WILL BE MORE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERNALLY FOR YOUR, IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW OUR OPERATORS HANDLE THE SYSTEM, OR IT WILL BE, IT WILL REQUIRE SOME ORDINANCE CHANGES THAT WILL AFFECT HOW AND WHEN RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO WATER, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WILL AFFECT ORDINANCES THAT PLANNING AND ZONING MAY HAVE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PLANT AND, AND THINGS SUCH AS THAT.
HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT OR, I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD, ESPECIALLY LAST YEAR, UH, WITH US LOOKING AT THE EXTREME DROUGHT THAT WE WERE IN, IS WE DIDN'T HAVE A VERY SOPHISTICATED PLAN THAT HAD TRIGGER POINTS OF WHEN, WHEN A CERTAIN POWER, UH, WATER SUPPLY WAS DOWN AND IT HIT A CERTAIN BENCHMARK OR A DEMAND HIT TO CERTAIN LEVELS THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE SPECIFIC ACTIONS AND WHAT THOSE ACTIONS WERE TO BE.
SO THIS PLAN WILL GIVE US A SPECIFIC ROADMAP OF, WITH THOSE CERTAIN CRITERIA, WITH CERTAIN INPUTS INTO THE SYSTEM, IF, WHEN WOULD WE NEED TO TAKE ACTIONS AND WHAT WOULD THOSE ACTIONS BE? IT'LL BE A MENU OF THINGS.
IT'LL BE A POLICY DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ON.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT'LL BE HELPFUL FOR US IS CLARITY OF WHEN DO WE GO TO STAGE TWO OR THREE OR FOUR TO VERY BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE REQUIRED.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENT BEHIND THE DOCUMENT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPING CHANGES.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD COMMENTS AND, AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT PROVIDING MORE ESCAPING AND SOME OTHER OPTIONS ABOUT HOW WE DO SOME DIFFERENT, UH, LANDSCAPING.
SO THAT'LL BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION TOO, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC IF THAT CONVERSATION COULD, COULD MARRY UP THE, AND SINK, LIKE HOW DO WE HAVE A, A LANDSCAPING POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR PEOPLE TO PLANT WITH WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF KNOWING THAT OVER THESE PERIODS OF TIME WE'LL GO INTO THIS STAGE OF DROUGHT.
AND WHAT WE ALLOW THEM TO PLANT HAS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT SO THAT THEIR YARD DOESN'T DIE.
SO IF WE HAD A LANDSCAPING POLICY THAT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT A WATER MASTER PLAN, WATER CONSERVATION MODEL, THEN MAYBE WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT ENCOURAGES BETTER LANDSCAPING PRACTICES BECAUSE THE IRRIGATION AND THE LANDSCAPING IS THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE PROBLEM IS ABOUT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT OUR DRINKING WATER OR OUR CARS.
NO, IT'S IS, IT'S NOT OUR SHOWERS.
IT'S NOT OUR, OUR TOILETS, IT'S OUR YARDS SIX 60% INCREASE IN WATER USAGE DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
BUT IT'S COMPLETELY REASONABLE FOR SOMEONE TO WANT TO WATER THEIR YARD IF THEY HAVE WATER, IF THEY HAVE GRASS THAT WILL DIE IF
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THEY DON'T.SO WHAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH IS A BETTER WAY OF REQUIRING THE LANDSCAPING TO MOVE FORWARD IN SUCH A WAY THAT EVEN IN THE, EVEN IN OUR RESTRICTIONS, THEY'RE, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'VE PLANTED, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT AND WATER IT.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS HOW THEY ANTICIPATED BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE AND I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO TRY TO EXPLAIN IT THE BEST THAT IT ON MY ABILITIES.
SO IF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS OUR SUPPLIES VERSUS WHAT OUR DEMANDS ARE, SO WE CONCENTRATE ON JUST THE BAR GRAPH ITSELF THAT GOES FROM 2023 TO 2028 THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT OUR SUPPLIES ARE IN TERMS OF MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AS WE GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PHASES OF ALLIANCE ST.
MARCUS AND THE SUPPLIES THAT ARE COMING ONLINE.
SO WE CAN SEE IN 2025, WE HAVE A SUPPLY THAT COMES ONLINE AND ANOTHER SUPPLY THAT COMES ONLINE BOTH WITH ALLIANCE IN 2027 AND 2025.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S WHY THAT THAT BAR GRAPH GROWS AS WE GET FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
THE NEXT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE HORIZONTAL LINE AND GRAY, HOPEFULLY THAT'S COMING ACROSS TRANSPARENT ON THE SCREEN, UH, THAT IS REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR DEMANDS WITH RESTRICTIONS BEING APPLIED.
SO THOSE ARE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE.
THOSE ARE REAL DEMANDS AND THE DEMANDS BASED ON GROWTH PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE SYSTEM.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE WITH OUR CAPACITIES WHERE THEY ARE SHOWN AND THEN WHERE OUR DEMANDS ARE BEING SHOWN IN THE, IN THE IN LINE GOING ACROSS IN THE GRAY, WE'RE WELL BELOW WHAT OUR DEMANDS ARE, WELL BELOW WHAT OUR CAPACITIES OF THE SYSTEM ARE, AND THEN WE ALSO SHOW IN THE BLACK LINE GOING ACROSS, THAT'S WHAT OUR DEMANDS WOULD BE IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE RIDING THE LINE WITH THE LINE GOING ACROSS WITH NO RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE, BUT WE, WE ANTICIPATE THERE TO BE SOME RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WE DON'T EXPECT TO BE COMPLETELY OUT OF A, A DROUGHT FREE, YOU KNOW, NO, NO RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE.
THERE'S GONNA BE, I EXPECT THAT THERE'LL BE SOMETHING IN PLACE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'LL BE AS, AS RESTRICTIVE AS THEY ARE TODAY.
BUT WE JUST WANTED TO TRY TO DEMONSTRATE THIS IN A, IN A VISUAL FORM AND HOPEFULLY THAT HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU WERE ASKING HER IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
I JUST, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS LIKE, MAYBE THINK OF IT LIKE THIS.
IF WE COULD ONLY ALLOW FOR WATERING, MAYBE ACCORDING TO YOUR MODEL, ONE DAY A WEEK IN THE MIDDLE OF WHENEVER THAT DROUGHT IS, SURE.
WHAT PLANTS CAN SURVIVE, WHAT PLANTINGS CAN ONLY SURVIVE WITH ONE.
AND THEN LITERALLY YOU CAN HAVE AN ARBORIST, THIS PUT A BIG, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED, WHICH SINKS IT ALL UP.
I THINK THAT THAT MAKES THE BLACK LINE GO TO THE GRAY LINE WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE THE PLANTINGS HAVE CHANGED.
SCOTTSDALE FOR EXAMPLE, RECEIVES SIX INCHES OF RAIN ANNUALLY AND THEY HAVE A WATER AND THEIR, BUT THEIR PLANTINGS ARE DIFFERENT AND THEY DO NOT HAVE DROUGHT DROUGHTS IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE THAT WE HAVE THEM WHERE THEY'RE IN DANGER OF LOSING ALL OF THEIR FOLIAGE.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE IN MY PRESENTATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YEAH, BACK TO THAT OTHER SLIDE, TIM.
SO I REMEMBER THIS ONE'S REALLY IMPORTANT 'CAUSE WE TALKED, TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR AND WE'RE WATCHING IT AS OUR, UM, OTHER WATER SUPPLIES COME ON.
AND I WAS WONDERING, BRIAN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAYBE LOOK AT THIS ONE SINCE IT'S IN MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, UH, OVER THESE YEARS? CAN WE HAVE THAT NUMBER LIKE IN, UH, RESIDENTIAL MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AND COMMERCIAL MILLION GALLONS PER DAY? SO THAT THE, I GUESS SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ASK ME ALL THE TIME, UM, WHY ARE WE BUILDING SO MUCH, WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT PIECE OF IT IS REALLY, OUR POPULATION IS GROWING AND USING THIS WATER, AND THEN WHAT PIECE OF IT IS COMMERCIAL USE THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO THE, UM, GETTING CLOSE TO THAT, UM, THRESHOLD PIECE.
AND I KNOW IT MIGHT BE HARD 'CAUSE THERE'S LARGER POPULATION OF PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S ALSO COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME POPULATION OF COMMERCIAL OUT THERE AND UH, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY LEVEL EACH OTHER.
WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY BREAK OUT DEMAND AND SHOW YOU CERTAINLY HISTORICALLY WHAT IT'S BEEN BY DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF METERS.
WE CAN, WE CAN SHOW THAT THE DEMAND PROJECTIONS GOING FORWARD PROBABLY GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT.
WE CAN TAKE A CRACK AT THAT AND LOOK AT THAT WITH STV.
WE'VE GOT A VERY CAPABLE STAFF THAT CAN HELP US WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M GETTING IS, UM, THE CONCERN OF THE WATER RATES THAT THEY PEOPLE MIGHT EXPERIENCE AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY, OKAY, WELL WHY, WHY ARE MY WATER RATES GOING UP SO MUCH? THEY'RE GOING UP HERE BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING.
THIS IS CONTRIBUTED TO OUR GROWTH USE AND THIS PIECE HAS CONTRIBUTED
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TO OUR INDUSTRIAL USE HERE.AND YOU'RE ON AUGUST 6TH, YOU'RE GONNA GET A MORE WATER INFORMATION.
YOU'LL HAVE A DETAILED PRESENTATION ON OUR WATER RATE STUDY THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING TO LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF ACCOUNTS AND WHAT THEIR COSTS ARE VERSUS WHAT THEIR REVENUES ARE AND ANY GAPS.
HOW DO YOU WANT TO SOLVE THAT? AND THERE'LL BE OPTIONS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.
WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE YOU WITH MORE INFORMATION AS WE GO ALONG.
I THINK OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS YOU'RE GONNA BE HAVING A LOT MORE OF THESE KINDS OF PRESENTATIONS TO GIVE YOU LOTS OF DETAILS ON IT.
AND I THINK THE WATER MASTER PLAN, WE'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH STV AND AS THEY BRING FORWARD INFORMATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF THIS.
CUSTOMER HARRIS, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED IN THE PAST AND, AND, AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USE.
UM, AND YOU'VE ALSO PRESENTED, UH, TO US AT SOME POINT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PER CAPITA USE OF APARTMENT DWELLERS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, AND I, WELL ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT I KIND OF THINK I KNOW, UM, IS INDUSTRIAL USE.
I REALLY DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY BIG INDUSTRIAL WATER USERS, BUT WE CERTAINLY COULD.
AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO BE ADDRESSING THAT THROUGH ORDINANCE AS MUCH AS THE STATE WILL ALLOW US TO DO SO, UM, AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE START GETTING THOSE REQUESTS FROM THE HIGH LE HIGH USE GROUPS.
ALRIGHT, NEXT STEPS IS TO, I HAVE A QUESTION, I'M SORRY.
OH, COUNCIL COUNCILOR PARSLEY.
UM, SO TIM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE, BECAUSE I LOST CONNECTION TWICE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GO INTO THE DETAILS ABOUT THE WATERING TIMES.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S, I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON THAT WHENEVER WE HAD THE WATER MEETING WITH THERE IN CITY HALL, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE BEST, WHAT ARE THE BEST TIMES TO WATER WHEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO WATER? BECAUSE I KNOW WE CAN WATER BY HAND ALMOST EVERY DAY AND WE HAVE SPECIFIC TIMES THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE EVERY OTHER WEEK, UH, SYSTEM FOR THOSE THAT HAVE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. UM, BUT WHAT I WANT TO REALLY ADDRESS, AND I KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED AT SOME POINT THAT MAYBE YOU GUYS WERE GONNA TALK TO, UM, TEXAS STATE PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT ARE THE BEST TIMES TO WATER.
UM, WHAT I WANT IS FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TIMES THAT THEY HAVE TO WATER AND FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE, WHY ARE WE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE SCHEDULE? SURE.
SO, SO WE RIGHT NOW WITH AUTOMATIC IRRIGATION AT 7:00 PM TO 10:00 PM WE KNOW THAT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE AND IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST POPULAR TIME.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE SYSTEM LIMITATIONS THAT, THAT WE'RE WORKING AGAINST AND RUNNING A WATER SYSTEM.
SO WE HAVE NORMAL PEAKING FACTORS WITHIN THE WATER SYSTEM.
PEOPLE COME HOME, THEY TAKE SHOWERS, THEY BATHE, THEY WASH, DO THEIR LAUNDRY, WHATEVER PEOPLE DO.
UM, SO THAT'S A PEAKING FACTOR.
PEOPLE WAKE UP IN THE MORNING, THAT'S ANOTHER PEAKING FACTOR.
SAME THING THEY'RE GETTING READY TO GO TO DO, GO ABOUT THEIR DAY.
UM, WE TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATIONS AND, AND THEN WE HAVE TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE SYSTEM TO, TO REBUILD.
SO WE'RE LETTING THOSE TANKS FILL BACK UP.
AND SO IF WE DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT TIME AND WE GET HIT WITH THE PEAKING FACTOR TO ONE OF THOSE TIMES, THEN WE JUMP TO A POINT TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE STORAGE THAT WE NEED BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS HIGH DEMAND.
AND NOW YOU'RE GETTING HIT WITH THAT ON TOP OF THAT WITH IRRIGATION THAT YOU'RE ALLOWING.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY WE'VE SET THESE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.
UM, AND THEN FROM A PATROLLING PERSPECTIVE THAT THAT ALSO WENT INTO PLAY.
BUT IT'S MORE SO JUST TRYING TO OPERATE THE SYSTEM, UH, WITH THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE STORAGE IN THOSE TANKS.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT THE MOST POPULAR TIMES TO IRRIGATE, BUT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS WHERE WE, WHERE WE HAVE WHERE WE SIT TODAY.
I JUST WANTED FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO JOIN US DURING THAT MEETING TO BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT THE REASONS ARE.
APPRECIATE MAYOR, WE'RE GOING JUST, UH, TIM, REAL QUICK, HOW ARE WE IN THE, UH, A, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT WITH OUR SMART METERS? WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT TECHNOLOGY RIGHT NOW? UH, HOW MUCH OF THE CITY HAVE WE COVERED ALREADY? SO OUT OF THE 14, APPROXIMATELY JUST OVER 14,000 METERS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, WE ARE JUST SHY OF 3000 METERS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED OR THE RADIOS TO BE REPLACED IN ORDER TO HAVE THEM A MI READY.
UM, WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS, UH, EXECUTIVE TEAM AND I TO, UH, TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND WE HOPE TO BRING SOMETHING TO YOU ON THAT VERY, VERY SOON.
AND, AND THE REASON I BRING UP THE A MI 'CAUSE IT'S
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IMPORTANT, UH, THIS, THE METERING SYSTEM THROUGH A MI PROCESS IS GONNA ALLOW US TO DETECT LEAKS THAT ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP RESIDENTS DETECT LEAVES IN THEIR HOME.THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION ON THEIR CELL PHONES.
IT'S GONNA BE A SYSTEM THAT'S GONNA HELP US SAVE WATER IN THE LONG RUN.
SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE LESS WATER RESTRICTIONS AS A MI COMES ON BOARD.
WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, AS A CITY AND AS RESIDENTS BE ABLE TO, UH, CONSERVE AND WATCH WHAT OUR WATER USAGE IS IN REAL TIME.
SO, UH, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THAT'S, WE'RE DOING IT IN-HOUSE AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AND I, I CONDEMN, COMMEND THE STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'VE DONE ON THE A, THE SMART METER SYSTEM.
'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA, UH, DEFINITELY SAVE US IN THE LONG RUN.
WE'RE BEING ABLE TO DETECT THOSE LEAKS WHERE WE LOSE PRECIOUS WATER IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
SO THANK YOU THAT, THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR US WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT SYSTEM IS TO ENSURE THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE A, A DASHBOARD TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
IF YOU HAVE A LEAK, THEY GET NOTIFIED.
WE GET NOTIFIED AS A UTILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY A HIGH BILL AND WE DON'T WANT THEM WASTING WATER.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO IMPLEMENT.
SORRY, BUT I THINK THIS WAS AN, AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
ALL OF THIS IS DRINKING WATER THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR AND BUYING AND USING.
ARE ANY OF OUR DEVELOPERS, UH, USING THIS POTABLE WATER FOR BUILDING? OR IS THIS ALL NON POTABLE IN PHASE THREE THAT THEY HAVE TO BRING IN THEMSELVES? OR IS ARE THEY USING DRINKING WATER TO BUILD? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE GET UPSET ABOUT.
AND I WANNA SAY TO THEM, THEY HAVE TO BRING IN POT NON POTABLE WATER FOR CONSTRUCTION WATER PURPOSES.
THE ROADS THAT THEY'RE BUILDING, THE, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PARKING LOTS.
I I I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY SOME, BUT WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE ON THAT FOR, FOR DEVELOPER, DEVELOPER DRIVEN PROJECTS? WE ARE NOT ALLOWING THE USE OF CONSTRUCTION WATER THAT IS A POTABLE WATER SOURCE.
WE ARE REQUIRING THEM TO SEEK THAT SOURCE FROM ANOTHER UTILITY.
I CAN'T SAY IF THAT'S POTABLE OR NON POTABLE, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED.
NOT HOW THEY, THEY'RE GETTING IT AND THEY'RE BRINGING IT THEMSELVES, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
WHETHER THAT'S DRINKING OR NON DRINKING.
IS THAT, CAN YOU CLARIFY ON THAT, BRIAN? I MEAN, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THE PHASE THREES THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN THEIR OWN WATER.
WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM OUR DRINKING WATER.
THEY'RE NOT USING OUR WATER, I THINK IS WHAT TIM'S TRYING TO SAY.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BRING IT IN FROM ANOTHER SOURCE.
AND ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS TO PROVIDE A RECLAIMED WATER FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
AND THAT'LL BE, UM, A PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY IT HELPS THE CONTRACTORS.
IT'S A CHEAPER SOURCE OF WATER AND IT PROVIDES A REVENUE SOURCE FOR US THAT OFFSETS THE COST TO OUR RATE PAYERS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING THAT ONLINE, UH, RELATIVELY SOON, UH, TO START THAT PROCESS.
BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO POTABLE WATER FROM THE CITY OF KYLE THAT'S BEING USED FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
THERE MAY BE SOME POTABLE WATER OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRUCKING IT.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IN THE SPRINKLER IT GETS USED, BUT THAT'S A SPRINKLER USE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT CONSTRUCTION.
BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE CONSTRUCTION WATER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT.
[5) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding preliminary conceptual designs, amenities, and financial options for the proposed the Kyle Sports Complex.]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING PRELIMINARY CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS, AMENITIES, AND FINANCIAL OPTIONS FOR THE PROPOSED KYLE SPORTSPLEX.
MR. ELIZONDO, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
JESSE ELIZONDO, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.
WE HAVE A STRONG GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WITH US TONIGHT WHO HAVE WORKED VERY HARD AND ARE VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL WHAT IS TRULY A LANDMARK PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND THAT IS THE KYLE SPORTSPLEX CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AND RENDERINGS TO SHOW YOU ALL AND TO ELICIT YOUR FEEDBACK AND DISCUSSION ON EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE TONIGHT.
NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPORTS PLEX CONVERSATION, ARE WE USING THE CLICKER WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPORTS PLEX DISCUSSION? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN TOP OF MIND FOR COUNCIL OVER THE LAST FEW MEETINGS, SEVERAL MONTHS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT QUITE A BIT, BUT AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT FROM DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT, THE NEED FOR THIS SPORTSPLEX AND RECREATION IN THE CITY GOES BACK YEARS AND IN SOME CASES MORE THAN A DECADE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXPLOSIVE, UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH THAT KYLE HAS GONE THROUGH, AND THE FACT THAT OUR CITY FROM A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC STANDPOINT SKEWS VERY YOUNG.
SO THAT THAT YOUNG DEMOGRAPHIC, YOUNG CITY COMPARED TO THOSE AROUND US AND THE GROW, THE GROWTH IN CAL, THERE'S AN ALWAYS AN EVER PRESENT NEED FOR SPORTS FACILITIES, FOR SPORTS FIELDS, FOR AMENITIES, FOR TOURNAMENTS AND BO BOTH OUTDOOR, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR PROGRAMMING, BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY FOR INDOOR.
NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE'RE IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND IT GETS EXTREMELY HOT OUTSIDE, BUT ALSO THERE IS NOTHING IN KYLE THAT HAS INDOOR SPORTS FACILITIES.
AND WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT YOUNG, YOUNG LEAGUES, YOUNG TEAMS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUTH ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIGH QUALITY LEAGUE, HIGH LEVEL LEAGUE PLAY.
AND IN SOME CASES EVEN BEYOND THAT, THE, THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THE DRAFT OF THE STRATEGIC VISION FOR THE,
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FOR THE CITY, UH, SAYS THAT KYLE WILL BE A DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE CITY THAT FEATURES A VIBRANT AND AFFORDABLE AND SAFE COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL.AND THIS SPORTSPLEX PROJECT IS A HUGE STEP FORWARD IN ADVANCING THAT VISION FOR THE CITY.
NOW, TO BRING US TO PRESENT DAY ON JUNE 8TH, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD A MEETING AND GAVE STAFF VERY SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO GO GET CONSULTANT PARTNERS TO LOOK AT A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND RENDERINGS OF A SPORTSPLEX AND THE IDENTITY AND WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN ALSO HAD A LARGE DISCUSSION RELATED TO THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THAT SPORTSPLEX AND, AND THE DRAW OF A SPORTSPLEX IF WE BUILT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHAT THE DRAW BOTH LOCALLY AND HOW IT WOULD SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY LOCALLY, BUT ALSO REGIONALLY AND EVEN STATEWIDE DEPENDING ON THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND COURTS THAT WE HAVE THERE.
SO TONIGHT YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM MIKE THON AND RYAN SHERIDAN FROM HYUNDAI PARTNERS WHO WE, WE HAVE WORKED, UH, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY WITH AS THEY DID THAT FINANCIAL VIABILITY STUDY.
THEY LOOKED AT MARKET DATA AND MARCUS MARKET ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT THAT DRAW, BUT ALSO TO LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF ALL OF THOSE.
IF YOU HAVE THAT DRAW, NOT JUST THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED BY THAT INDOOR OUTDOOR FACILITY, BUT THE DOLLARS THAT COME IN AS TEAMS AND TOURNAMENTS ARE DRAWN INTO THE CITY.
AND THOSE, THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT'S, THAT'S PUT RIGHT BACK HERE INTO KYLE.
THEY'VE WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH STANTEC WHO IS DOING THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AND RENDERINGS.
AND SO YOU HAVE THE AESTHETIC AND THE LOOK AND THE, THE FEEL OF THE SPORTS PLEX WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY ASPECT OF IT.
YOU'LL ALSO HEAR FROM MARK MALDONADO FROM STANTEC WHO WILL BRING THOSE, THOSE RENDERINGS AND THOSE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS FOR YOU ALL TO SEE.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO UNVEIL THEM.
BUT ALSO I WANNA POINT OUT THAT IT'S NOT JUST RENDERINGS AND DESIGNS.
MARK AND HIS TEAM AND THE CITY STAFF HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT A CUT AND PASTE APPROACH.
WE DIDN'T JUST GO FIND A SPORTS PLEX THAT LOOKS NICE AND WORKS WELL FINANCIALLY AND DROP IT HERE, BUT REALLY TOOK A LOOK AT THE VISION AND THE IDENTITY OF WHO KYLE IS AND WHAT KYLE IS AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO INFUSE THAT INTO A SPORTSPLEX THAT WOULD HAVE THAT LOCAL, REGIONAL, AND EVEN STATEWIDE DRAW.
NOW, ALL OF THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN A VACUUM EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
AS WE, AS WE WENT FORWARD, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE WORKING ON A VERY, UH, CRUNCH TIMELINE, WE WOULD NOT TAKE ONE STEP FORWARD WITHOUT, WITHOUT ELICITING AS MUCH COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT FIRST AND FOREMOST WAS OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN.
THE PARKS MASTER PLAN CALLS OUT A A HANDFUL OF SPECIFIC NEEDS AND GAPS IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO EVEN POSITS A SPORTS PLEX AND WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY.
NOW OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN IS FROM 2016.
AND SO THERE IS AN ITEM ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY THAT WE FEEL IS VERY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS TO ALSO UPDATE OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT WITH STANTEC TO UPDATE THAT.
AND AS MARK WILL WALK THROUGH TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, THAT THE LOOKING AT THE SPORTSPLEX AND WHAT IT WOULD MEAN FROM A PROGRAMMING STANDPOINT ALONG WITH OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN REALLY GO HAND IN HAND TO LOOK AT OUR PARKS FROM A HIGH LEVEL, UM, UH, HOLISTIC VIEW.
SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GETTING AS MUCH COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE BUILDING FROM THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SPORTSPLEX ALONG WITH ALL OF OUR PARKS AND HOW THEY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.
AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT COMMUNITY SURVEYS AND HOW THEY HAVE INTERACTED WITH THE CITIZENS AS FAR AS WHAT, WHAT OUR NEEDS IN PARKS AND WHAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
AND THEN ALSO ELEMENTS OF OUR CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS FAR AS LAND USE AND THE LOCATION.
EARLIER THIS YEAR WE HAD A CSL INTERNATIONAL CSL INTERNATIONAL DID A MARKET AND FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT REALLY OUTLINED THE RAPID INDUSTRY GROWTH WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPORTS LEAGUES IN OUR AREA AND BOTH LOCALLY AND REGIONALLY.
AND THEN ALSO HIGHLIGHTED THAT THERE IS A LIMITED INVENTORY IN THIS AREA FOR SPORTS COMPLEXES.
AND OF COURSE A HIGH DEMAND AND INTEREST IN OUR IN FOR INDOOR AND OUTDOOR, SPECIFICALLY INDOOR.
AND THAT IS ALSO DUE, IT SPEAKS TO THE GROWTH OF KYLE THAT THE UNEXPECTED, UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH OF KYLE.
WE HAD A DESIGN CHARETTE IN JUNE THAT HAD A HUGE NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THERE THAT LOOKED AT VISIONS, GOALS AND PRIORITIES OF THE, OF THE SPORTS FLEX, BUT ALSO LOOKED AT THE OPPORTUNITIES, ECONOMIC IMPACT.
AND AGAIN, THAT IDENTITY OF WHAT THIS WOULD BE SO THAT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOME OTHER SPORTS FLEX, IT'S KYLE'S SPORTS INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SPORTS FLEX.
AND THEN WE HAD A HOST OF STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS THROUGH JUNE AND JULY THAT WE MET WITH EVERY SINGLE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, ELECTED OFFICIALS, OUR PARTNERS WITH THE COUNTY.
WE HAD THE SPORTSPLEX TASK FORCE LOOK AT THIS, WHO WERE ORIGINALLY SET UP TO LOOK AT THE SPORTSPLEX AS A WHOLE.
WE MET WITH DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND GOT FEEDBACK FROM THEM AND THEN ALSO MULTIPLE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PARTNERS.
UH, SO I WILL IN, IN JUST A SECOND, TURN IT OVER TO MIKE WHO'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT FINANCIAL VIABILITY SECTION.
BUT I WILL REMIND YOU ALL THAT, WHAT AT THE END WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND WHERE WE'RE GOING, I REALLY WANT, WE REALLY NEED TO ELICIT THAT FEEDBACK, THOSE IDEAS FROM YOU GUYS AND HAVE A GOOD, HEALTHY DISCUSSION ON EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE TONIGHT.
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WE ARE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TIMELINE OF EARLY MID-AUGUST TO GET SOME LANGUAGE ON THE, FOR A BALLOT, UH, A BOND ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.AND SO EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY TONIGHT, EVERYTHING, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET FROM YOU GUYS, THE DISCUSSION, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN GO BACK AND TWEAK WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU TONIGHT IS OPEN FOR CHANGE.
ANYTHING CAN BE TWEAKED, ANYTHING CAN BE TAKEN AWAY OR ADDED.
SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, THERE'S A LOT HERE.
WE'RE GONNA THROW A LOT AT YOU GUYS, BUT MAKE WE AT THE END, WE WANT ALL OF THAT FEEDBACK.
DON'T HOLD BACK SO THAT WE CAN TAKE IT BACK AND START TO MAKE CHANGES AND TWEAKS TO ALL THIS PLAN.
SO I WILL HAND IT OVER TO MIKE.
ALRIGHT, JESSE, ARE YOU GONNA CLICK? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M A PROJECT EXECUTIVE WITH WITH HYUNDAI.
AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I, UH, TIP MY HAT TO YOU GUYS.
YOU HAVE, UH, PUSHED THIS PROJECT TO LAW SINCE JUNE 8TH.
YOU'VE MADE US WORK ON FRIDAYS.
OUR STAFF WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
BUT IN THE EFFORT TO GET YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEEDED TODAY, UH, YOUR STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF, OF PUSHING US AND, UH, MAKING US GET YOU THE INFORMATION.
EVERYTHING WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU TODAY IS FACTUAL AS WE KNOW IT TODAY, BUT THAT'S, UH, SUBJECT TO CHANGE IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT'S, UH, DESIGN OR THE CHANGE IN THE ELEMENTS THAT WOULD GO INTO THE FACILITIES OR THE FIELDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, TAKE THAT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT AND EVERYTHING'S MALLEABLE, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD HELP MAKE GOOD, UH, FINANCIAL AND DESIGN ELEMENT DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HYUNDAI.
WE ARE A, UH, A NATIONAL REAL ESTATE ADVISORY FIRM.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, SPORTS CONVENTION, UM, UH, PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
UM, WE, WE PARTICULARLY, RYAN IS PROBABLY CONSIDERED AN EXPERT IN THE YOUTH SPORTS FIELD AND, UH, AND INDOOR OUTDOOR COMPLEXES.
BUT THIS IS A, A LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO.
RIGHT NOW WE'VE DONE ABOUT 120, WHICH SHE'LL GET IN SOME MORE DETAILS OF YOU.
WE HAVE A FIRM OF 30 PLUS EMPLOYEES.
UM, WE ARE DOING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW, UM, PROBABLY BECAUSE AS JESSE SAID, TEXAS IS EXPLODING.
UM, AS WE LOOKED AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC, UH, AND ECONOMIC PROFILE BETWEEN AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU'RE ONE OF THE TOP THREE FASTEST GROWING MARKETS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
ONE OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WE LOOK AT THAT WE'RE DOING SOME WORK IN RIGHT NOW IS BETWEEN DENVER AND CHEYENNE, WYOMING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE YOURSELF TO THAT MARKET OR NOT COMPARE YOURSELF TO THAT MARKET, BUT THE EXPANSIVE GROWTH NORTH OF DENVER INTO THAT FRONTAL RANGE, INTO CHEYENNE.
UM, THEN OBVIOUSLY NASHVILLE IS THE OTHER REALLY, UH, FAST GROWING MARKET.
UM, SO YOU'RE IN GOOD COMPANY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
IF YOU'RE NOT THE LEADER, YOU'RE AT LEAST IN THE TOP THREE.
UM, SO SEE THIS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE, UH, SPORTS COMPLEX THAT WE'VE WORKED ON.
I'M GONNA LET RYAN EXPLAIN MOST OF THAT.
I WILL BE BACK, UM, AT A LATER DATE, BUT I WILL LET RYAN DO THIS.
RYAN, LIKE I SAID, IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE EXPERTS IN SPORTS FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, SO WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM ON OUR TEAM AND WE'RE LUCKY TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
UM, JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE, JUST SHOWING OFF SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE WORKED ON.
INDOOR OUTDOOR MIX OF BOTH AT THE SAME TIME ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITHIN TEXAS, DFW WACO, ALL OVER THE STATE, UM, WITH A FOCUS ON NOT ONLY THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY, BUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF WHAT THESE PROJECTS CAN BRING.
UM, SO AGAIN, INDOOR, UH, INDOOR FACILITIES ANYWHERE FROM FOUR COURTS ALL THE WAY UP TO 36.
UM, WORKING IN TOWNS OF POPULATION OF 4,000 ALL THE WAY UP TO THE DFW METROPLEX AND OTHER MAJOR CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO, UM, A LARGE, UM, ARRAY IN IN SCOPE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON.
UM, AND JUST HAPPY TO BRING THE EXPERTISE TO THE TABLE HERE.
SO WHEN WE WERE BROUGHT ON BOARD, UM, WE REALLY TOOK A LOOK AT, AT SOME READILY AVAILABLE DATA TO US FROM SOME PREVIOUS STUDIES, UM, AND GAVE OUR FEEDBACK ON, ON WHAT WE AGREED WITH, WHAT WE DISAGREED WITH.
UM, BUT I THINK A BIG CHANGE FROM WHEN WE JOINED THE PROJECT IS THAT THERE IS A CONSIDERATION FOR POTENTIAL ICE TO BE INCORPORATED.
UH, WE WENT DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE AND, AND EVALUATED THE LIKELIHOOD OF, OF WHAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THERE.
AND, AND WE KIND OF SCALED THE PROJECT BACK WITH THE STANTEC TEAM AS WELL AS, UM, THE INTERNAL CITY FOLKS TO FOCUS ON THE, UM, INDOOR COURT ASPECT OF A PROJECT AS WELL AS THE OUTDOOR FIELDS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO WE ZEROED IN ON THE RELEVANT SUPPLY OF INDOOR AND OUTDOOR FACILITIES FROM THAT SENSE.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT, I'D SAY EIGHT TO 10 NATIONAL CASE STUDY FACILITIES.
UM, BUT FOR TODAY WE KIND OF, UH, SHORTENED THAT LIST, UH, TO REALLY KEEP IT RELEVANT FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS, UM, FOR WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
SO BEFORE WE GET INTO SOME SPECIFIC ANALYSIS FOR THE FACILITY IN BRIAN MEMPHIS AND THEN, UM, REALLY CLOSE IN ROUND ROCK, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE.
SO REALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE PROJECTS, THERE'S A, THERE'S
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A SLIDING SCALE OF ON ONE END, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCALLY FOCUSED VENUES WHERE THAT'S A REC CENTER OR A SMALLER VENUE THAT'S REALLY CATERED TOWARDS USAGE FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.NOW, ON THE OTHER END AS, AS YOU REALLY INCREASE THE SIZE OF A FACILITY, YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF, OF THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM, SPORTS TOURISM.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS A BALANCE IN THESE PROJECTS, UM, AND IT REALLY TAKES A DIFFERENT SHAPE BASED ON WHO'S LEADING THE PROJECT AND OPERATING THE FACILITY.
BUT, UM, JUST TO SET THE STAGE FOR HOW THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS LAY OUT, UM, WHENEVER WE DO A STUDY, WE TALK WITH NATIONAL TOURNAMENT OPERATORS, UM, AS WELL AS OPERATORS OF COMPARABLE FACILITIES.
AND WE'VE JUST KIND OF LAID IT OUT HERE TO SHOW THAT IN ORDER TO BE CONSIDERED FOR, UM, REGIONAL EVENTS SUCH AS TOURNAMENTS THAT DRIVE PEOPLE IN AND, AND REALLY DRIVE THOSE ROOM NIGHTS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT TO A COMMUNITY.
UH, FROM AN OUTDOOR FIELD PERSPECTIVE, USUALLY TOURNAMENT OPERATORS REQUIRE AT LEAST 16 FIELDS TO BE ON SITE.
UM, ANYTHING UNDER THAT IS REALLY CONSIDERED LOCALLY FOCUSED.
YOU'RE STILL HOSTING LOCAL TOURNAMENTS, BUT IT'S PRIMARILY UTILIZED FOR LEAGUE PLAY AND, AND YOUTH SPORTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, FROM AN INDOOR PERSPECTIVE, USUALLY THEY REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF EIGHT BASKETBALL COURTS, WHICH TRANSLATES TO 16 VOLLEYBALL COURTS.
UM, AND THEN LOCALLY YOU KIND OF GET MORE INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU'VE GOT FOUR TO EIGHT.
UM, SO WE JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT FACILITIES.
THIS ONE WAS COMPLETED IN 2022, UM, IN BRYAN, TEXAS.
THE LEGENDS EVENT CENTER, THIS IS OPERATED BY SPORTS FACILITIES COMPANIES.
THEY'RE, UM, RESPECTED AS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS IN TERMS OF OPERATIONS.
SO THEY'RE ONE OF THE NATIONAL OPERATORS THAT HAS ACCESS TO A TOURNAMENT NETWORK THAT THEY'RE ROUTING DIFFERENT EVENTS TO ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THEY'RE KNOWN FOR BEING VERY EFFICIENT IN THEIR OPERATIONS.
MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, THEY'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON CATERING TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN TYPICALLY FROM THOSE FRIDAY TO SUNDAYS, THEY'RE REALLY WIRING THOSE TOURNAMENTS IN THERE THAT ARE GONNA DRIVE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HELP SUPPORT THESE FACILITIES, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC SECTOR'S INPUT.
SO TAKING A LOOK AT THE VISITATION THAT A FACILITY LIKE THIS HAS GENERATED SINCE OPENING IN BRIAN, THEIR VISITATION DATA FROM LAST YEAR, UM, SHOWS THAT ROUGHLY 30% OF THEIR TOTAL VISITATION OR 105,000 VISITS, UM, WAS GENERATING GENERATED FROM OVER 60 MILES AWAY.
SO THE MAP THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE SHOWS SIGNIFICANT VISITATION FROM SAN ANTONIO, AUSTIN, DFW IN HOUSTON.
UM, AND ON THE, THE BOTTOM RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THE VISITATION BY THE DAY OF WEEK THERE.
SO THE GREEN BARS ARE SHOWING FOLKS THAT DROVE FROM OVER 60 MILES AWAY, UH, TO COME AND VISIT THIS FACILITY.
AND THEN MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, THOSE BLUE AND RED BARS ARE SHOWING EVERYBODY THAT VISITED WITHIN 10 MILES AND THEN BETWEEN 10 AND 60 MILES.
SO WE'D CONSIDER THOSE TO BE THE MORE LOCAL AND REGIONAL WHERE THE GREEN BARS WOULD SHOW LONG DISTANCE VISITATION.
SO SINCE OPENING THIS FACILITY HAS GENERATED SIGN SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF DRIVING THAT SPORTS TOURISM, ESPECIALLY ON THOSE WEEKEND DATES FOR TOURNAMENTS.
UM, ANOTHER ONE THAT WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE OPERATING COMPANY FOR THIS ONE, EASTERN SPORTS MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS LOCATED IN MEMPHIS, A LITTLE BIT LARGER THAN THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY.
UM, BUT NONETHELESS, ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF A FACILITY THAT SINCE OPENING HAS BEEN ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE A LOT TO GENERATING, UM, ECONOMIC IMPACT AND SPORTS TOURISM FOR THE CITY.
ONE THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THOUGH, UM, LOCATED IN ROUND ROCK, BEEN A VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL CITY IN TERMS OF, OF DRIVING SPORTS TOURISM.
BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE VISITATION, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TO BRING BACK THE TOPIC OF, OF FIELD COUNT AND HOW THAT KIND OF IMPACTS, UM, HOW THESE FACILITIES OPERATE.
SO THEIR INDOOR FACILITY, THERE IS SIX BASKETBALL COURTS, UM, OR 12 VOLLEYBALL, WHICH TYPICALLY, UH, IS, UH, COMING IN UNDERSIZED THAT WHAT WE WOULD SAY FROM THOSE TOURNAMENT OPERATORS.
UH, THEY LIKE TO HAVE, AGAIN, THAT MINIMUM EIGHT COURTS.
UM, BUT ON THE OUTDOOR PERSPECTIVE, THEY HAVE A PLETHORA OF OUTDOOR FIELDS, TURF GRASS, DIAMONDS, UM, BUT WE TENDED TO FOCUS, UM, OUR GEOFENCING VISITATION ANALYSIS ON THE OUTDOOR FIELDS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING DIAMONDS AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE IN VISITATION, THIS IS SHOWN FROM THE INDOOR FACILITY.
SO ROUGHLY 24% OF THEIR VISITATION COMES FROM OVER 60 MILES AWAY.
AGAIN, THEY'RE UNDER THE THRESHOLD THAT TERM AND OPERATORS TYPICALLY REQUIRE.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU SHIFT TO THE ANALYSIS FOR THE OUTDOOR FIELDS WHERE THEY'RE OVER THAT LIMITATION, THAT JUMPS UP TO OVER 45%.
SO AGAIN, THEY FOCUS MORE ON, UM, THE ASPECT OF DRIVING TOURNAMENTS AND LONG DISTANCE VISITATION WITH THEIR OUTDOOR FACILITIES, BUT THEIR INDOOR FACILITIES ARE CONTRIBU CONTRIBUTING, UM, STILL SOME, BUT SIGNIFICANTLY MORE USAGE FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
AND I JUST WANNA POINT YOUR ATTENTION TO, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT'S IN, UH, WITHIN THE MSA, UH, BUT IT'S ALSO, YOU CAN SEE SUCH A GREAT EXAMPLE OF IT REALLY IS PULLING HIGH NUMBERS FROM DALLAS, FROM HOUSTON, ALL THE WAY FROM SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY AS MIKE ALLUDED TO REALLY SERVICING THE I 35 CORRIDOR BETWEEN SAN ANTONIO, UM, AND AUSTIN.
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SO, UM, ONE FACILITY THAT WE WANTED TO BRING UP THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME CLIENT OF OURS HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM IS, UH, THE MOST VISITED YOUTH SPORTS COMPLEX IN THE US GRAND PARK UP IN WESTFIELD, INDIANA.UM, WHAT THIS HAS DONE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING COUNTY, UM, IS, IS REALLY JUST IT'S REMARKABLE.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE MIDST OF, UM, A ROUGHLY $200 MILLION MASTER PLAN THAT'S GONNA BE PLANNED FOR JUST OUTSIDE OF THE FACILITY SO THAT THEY CAN CAPTURE TO A GREATER EXTENT ALL OF THE VISITATION THAT THEY PRODUCE.
AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY LARGE FACILITY, BUT, UH, ONE THAT WE KNOW, UM, THAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, UM, UP IN WESTFIELD.
SO, UM, AS YOU LOOK AT THE VISITATION HERE, AGAIN, THE MOST VISITED EVEN OVER, UM, DISNEY'S ESPN WILD WORLD OF SPORTS LOCATED IN ORLANDO.
UM, SINCE 2017, UH, THEY'VE ATTRACTED ROUGHLY 38 MILLION VISITORS INTO WESTFIELD, WHICH HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED THE OVERALL LANDSCAPE OF HAMILTON COUNTY.
UH, WESTFIELD'S GROWING AT AN ANNUAL RATE OF 14%.
UM, AND IT REALLY HAS BEEN A, A HUGE CONTRIBUTOR, CONTRIBUTOR TO THE OVERALL PROFILE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, THEY TYPICALLY AVERAGE AROUND FIVE TO 6 MILLION VISITS A YEAR.
UM, THIS REALLY HAS INCREASED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR HOTELS, THEIR RESTAURANTS, AND AGAIN, WORKING ON THAT DESTINATION OVERALL MASTER PLAN THAT THEY REALLY KNOW THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO ELEVATE THEMSELVES AND STAY RELEVANT IN THE SPORTS TOURISM WORLD.
UM, PRIMARILY THEIR MARKET IS WITHIN THE MIDWEST, BUT AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THOSE MAPS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY SHOWN, THEY'RE DRAWING NATIONAL VISITATION TO THEIR EVENTS.
UM, BUT LOCATED AMONGST ALL THE MAJOR MARKETS IN THE MIDWEST, UM, AND WORKING IN PLACES LIKE OHIO, UM, ON OTHER PROJECTS, THEY MENTION THAT THEY DRIVE BACK AND FORTH EVERY DAY IN SOME INSTANCES BECAUSE THERE AREN'T HOTELS AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS TO STAY IN THE AREA.
UM, SO AGAIN, A A MASSIVELY IMPACTFUL PROJECT AND JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT SINCE UH, WE KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR.
SO, UH, MIKE, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING MECHANISMS, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UH, A LITTLE STORY RELATED TO GRAND PARK AND WHY THEY'RE EMBARKING ON THE $26 MILLION MASTER PLAN THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE GRAND PARK COMPLEX IS BECAUSE THE MAYOR OF TWO ADJACENT CITIES THAT SAID, WE LOVE GRAND PARK, THEY'RE FILLING OUR HOTELS OR EATING AT OUR RESTAURANTS TO THE SOUTH, THEY'RE FILLING OUR HOTELS AND EATING TO THE RESTAURANTS IN THE NORTH.
AND GRAND PARK GOES, WELL WAIT A SECOND.
WHY ARE THOSE PEOPLE LEAKING OUT OF OUR GRAND PARK AREA? WE NEED TO MASTER PLAN AND CREATE A, A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, FAMILY FRIENDLY DESTINATION, UM, WITHIN THAT AREA ITSELF.
SO THEY WANNA KEEP THEM IN WESTFIELD AND STOP THE LEAKING EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ADJACENT CITIES.
SO THEY SEE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AND THEY SEE THE VALUE OF THE SPORTS TOURISM, AND THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S THEIR NEXT STEP.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS A QUESTION OF HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THINGS.
UM, THESE ARE JUST REALLY FOUR EXAMPLES AND THE COMMON THING AMONG ALL OF THEM IS REALLY, IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE INCREMENT.
UM, SO YOU'VE GOT TWO OF THEM THAT ARE IN OHIO, OBVIOUSLY.
ROUND ROCK WAS A HOTEL MOTEL TAX, UM, WHICH COMES DIRECTLY FROM THOSE STAYING FROM OUTSIDE OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY THAT ARE COMING IN TO VISIT, AS RYAN SAID, BOTH THE INDOOR AND THE OUTDOOR COMPLEXES.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IN GRAND PARK, THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL SPORTS DISTRICT AUTHORITY.
SO THERE WAS SOME PRACTICE FACILITIES AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH ALLOWED THEM TO PUT A TAX ON THAT OVERLAY, WHICH ALLOWED PEOPLE TO THEN TO CREATE AN INCREMENT.
AND THAT IS FUNDED WITH THE VISITORS THAT COME, UM, THROUGHOUT THAT AREA.
UM, THE OTHER BIG QUESTION THAT COMES UP ON MOST OF THESE IS OPERATIONS AND GOVERNMENT, UH, AND GOVERNANCE.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS THAT DEBATE BETWEEN DO WE WANT TO BE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE AND ACT LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HURT THE LOCAL RESIDENTS, OR DO WE WANNA BE LOCAL RESIDENT FOCUSED, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HURT OUR ABILITY TO ATTRACT NATIONAL, UH, UM, NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS AND TO BE PRIVATE SECTOR PROFIT MOTIVATED.
AND THERE IS A BALANCE, BUT THE BALANCE IS USUALLY DIRECTED FROM THE TOP.
THEY HAVE PLENTY OF USE ON THE FIELDS DURING MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, MIDDAY FRIDAY, AND THEN FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, THEY USE IT AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL.
SO THE SAME LITTLE LEAGUE PLAYERS THAT ARE PLAYING ON MONDAY, TUESDAY SOMETIMES ROLL DIRECTLY TO A TOURNAMENT ON THE WEEKEND.
THE PEOPLE THAT THEY PLAY ON THE WEEKEND, THEY'RE COMING FROM OHIO, THEY'RE COMING FROM DETROIT, THEY'RE COMING FROM CHICAGO, THEY'RE COMING FROM ST.
SO WHILE IT'S A YOUTH FIELD AS WELL, IT'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.
SO WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF, UH, STRUCTURE AND, AND PROCESS.
IT'S EITHER PRIVATE MANAGEMENT OR IT'S A SUBSECTION OF, OF THE CITY GOVERNMENT, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OF SOME SORT.
AND IN EVERY CASE THERE'S PROS AND CONS.
LOCAL PRIVATE MANAGEMENT, THERE'S ALWAYS A COMMUNITY FOCUS, THERE'S A FOCUS ON LITTLE LEAGUE, THERE'S A FOCUS ON YOUTH SOCCER, THERE'S A FOCUS ON TEAM VOLLEYBALL, BUT HAVE YOU LOST THE FOCUS ON YOUR ECONOMIC IMPACT? THERE IS THE BALANCE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU FIND TYPICALLY WITHIN THE LOCAL OR THE GOVERNMENT FOCUS IS THEY DON'T HAVE THAT NETWORK OF CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE SPORTS TOURISM AND TEAM PROMOTIONS THAT WILL BRING AN EVENT TO A MUNICIPALITY, TO A TOWN THAT'S GONNA BRING THOSE OUTSIDE VISITORS.
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THAT YOU HAVE TO BALANCE IF YOU HAVE THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOCUS.UM, THEY DO HAVE ACCESS, THEY BRING IN MANAGERS FROM THE OUTSIDE, THEY'RE PROFIT MOTIVATED, UM, THEY DO WORK THEIR NETWORK, THEY GO TO TRADE SHOWS, THEY GO TO SPORTS, TOURISM TRADE SHOWS, THEY GO TO YOUTH TRADE SHOWS, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO FORGET ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS A LOCALLY FUNDED LOCAL SPORTS COMPLEX AS WELL.
SO PART OF THAT IS HOW IS THAT, HOW IS THAT CONTRACT STRUCTURED WITHIN PRIVATE MANAGEMENT VERSUS HOW IT IS, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A GOVERNMENTAL DIVISION OR A GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT.
AND THOSE ARE ALL THINGS YOU'LL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AS YOU GO THROUGH AND YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST FOR KYLE.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING RELATED TO THIS IS THAT THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY, AND AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU HAVE PUSHED US, UM, AND STANTEC TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS, WHICH I THINK IS, UH, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A LOT TO GO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE INFORMATION THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS.
AND SO TWO THINGS, UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO JUST THE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, AGAIN, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY BASED ON WHAT THE CURRENT THOUGHT OF THE DESIGN OF A FACILITY WOULD BE RIGHT NOW.
AND TWO, AGAIN, JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR, WE ARE NOT OPERATORS OF FACILITIES, JUST THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS HELPING TO GIVE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION BASED ON, ON THE MARKET.
SO, UM, WHEN WE ARE FORMING OUR PROJECTIONS, UH, WE DO WORK CLOSELY WITH OPERATORS OF, OF LIKE FACILITIES OR COMPARABLE FACILITIES TO HELP UNDERSTAND THE METRICS THAT THEY USE, AS WELL AS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR FACILITIES ARE PERFORMING.
UM, SO TYPICALLY WHEN OPERATING A FACILITY OF THIS SIZE, IT TAKES ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO STABILIZE AN EVENT SCHEDULE.
UM, SO AS OPERATIONS BECOME MORE EFFICIENT, EMPLOYEES GET A FEEL FOR THE FACILITY AND THE EVENT SCHEDULE CAN BE PROPERLY WORKED OUT.
UM, WE TYPICALLY PROJECT THAT IN THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS, THE FACILITIES, UH, LOSING MONEY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE BOTTOM LINE PERFORMANCE.
BUT AS, UH, AS OPERATIONS BECOME MORE EFFICIENT, UM, THE GOAL OF THESE FACILITIES ULTIMATELY IS TO BREAK EVEN, UM, AND TO BE THAT TOOL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THESE THINGS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE NOT MONEY PRINTING MACHINES.
THEY'RE NOT, UM, REALLY FULL SERVICE TO STAND BY THEMSELVES IN ALL IN, UH, MOST CASES.
BUT, UM, BY YEAR, BY YEAR FIVE, WE TYPICALLY SEE THAT FACILITIES OF THIS SIZE, UH, GIVEN THE PROPER MANAGEMENT ARE ABLE TO BREAK EVEN AND, AND OFTENTIMES AREN'T AS SIGNIFICANT BURDEN, UM, ON THAT BOTTOM NET OPERATING LINE.
UM, SO WHAT WE DO IS WE TYPICALLY, UH, PROJECT AN EVENT SCHEDULE THAT'S DRIVEN BY TOURNAMENTS, UM, AND THEN LOCAL USAGE AND, AND HOURLY USAGE.
UM, BUT THE TOURNAMENTS THAT ARE, UH, PROJECTED TO BE RUN OUT OF A FACILITY ULTIMATELY SPILL DOWN INTO THE ROOM NIGHT GENERATION, UH, PROJECTIONS.
SO BY YEAR FIVE, UPON THAT EVENT, STABILIZATION, UH, PROJECTING, AGAIN, PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARILY, ROUGHLY 47,500 ROOMMATES GENERATED, UH, GROSSLY BY THE, BY THE FACILITY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO, UH, WHAT THAT TRANSLATES TO IS, UH, THE MIX OF LOCAL AND, UM, OUT OF TOWN SPENDING THAT GETS YOU TO YOUR ECONOMIC IMPACT PROJECTIONS.
SO AGAIN, PRELIMINARY PROJECTIONS, UM, AT 786 MILLION OVER A 30 YEAR TIMELINE, UH, THAT RESULTS IN A COMBINATION OF DIRECT, INDIRECT AND INDUCED SPENDING OF ABOUT 1.2 BILLION.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE NET NEW, UH, EARNINGS GENERATED FROM ECONOMIC, UH, IMPACT AND SPENDING FROM THE COMPLEX, LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 552 MILLION OVER A 30 YEAR TIMELINE, UH, WITH AN AVERAGE OF 264 JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, GENERATED BY THE SPENDING FROM THE VISITATION TO THE VENUE.
SIR, CAN YOU GIMME THE NUMBERS IN THE FIRST ONE? 'CAUSE I DID HAVE A HARD TIME TRYING TO FOLLOW IT WHEN I WAS REVIEWING IT.
JUST TO MAKE SURE THESE NUMBERS, I CAN COMPUTE THE, THE FIRST ONE.
ARE YOU TALKING THE MILLIONS OR THOUSANDS IN IT? 'CAUSE IT WAS, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
SO THESE ARE IN MILLIONS, SO FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THE OTHER SLIDE, THE ONE WHERE YOU SAID THAT, THAT, OH, HERE, THESE ARE IN THOUSANDS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, 267,000, UH, OF A LOSS IN YEAR ONE, BUT BY YEAR FOUR, $91,000 IN, IN PROFIT.
I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OR WHAT WOMEN MOVED TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THESE ARE HUNDREDS I CAN, UH, I CAN MAKE THAT MORE, UM, MORE EASY TO, UH, TO COMPUTE.
UM, SO OVERALL, UM, ECONOMIC IMPACT FLOWS INTO, UH, THE SPENDING IN THE TAX STREAMS AT THE CITY LEVEL.
SO ASSUMING A 7% HOTEL TAX AND A 1.5% CITY SALES TAX, UH, WE'VE PROJECTED OVER A 30 YEAR TIMELINE, UH, PRELIMINARILY ROUGHLY 31.2 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE CITY.
UM, AND THEN AS MIKE LAID OUT, OFTENTIMES THERE ARE POTENTIAL TAX STREAMS THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED AND APPLIED.
UM, SO FOR INSTANCE, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THE IMPACT OF A POTENTIAL VENUE TAX IF IT WAS TO BE INSTILLED, UH, GIVING A ROUGHLY,
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UM, ADDITIONAL 2%, UH, TO ACTIVITY AT THE VENUE.UH, HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE ANOTHER 5.5 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT, BRINGING THE TOTAL TO 36.7.
SO, UM, OVER A 30 YEAR TIME PERIOD AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY PROJECTING ROUGHLY 31.2 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT AT THE CITY LEVEL.
AND THAT IS IT FROM THE HUNTING SIDE.
SO, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE STUDY THERE.
DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, WE'LL KEEP GOING AND THEN AS YOU FINISH, PERFECT.
GOOD, MIKE, NO OFFENSE, BUT NOW ON THE EXCITING PART HERE, UH, MARK BALDONADO, SENIOR PRINCIPAL WITH STANTEC, FOR THE RECORD, UM, JUST TO SET THE STAGE.
SO STANTEC'S SCOPE IN THIS, IN THIS EXERCISE WAS TO CREATE THE VISIONING AND FEASIBILITY STUDY, UH, AND TO DO IT IN A REALLY SHORT TIME AND APPROXIMATELY FOUR WEEKS.
UM, SO WHAT IS A VISIONING AND FEASIBILITY STUDY? IT'S BASICALLY A STUDY THAT IS ABLE TO COMPUTE OPPORTUNITIES, CONSTRAINTS, THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT THIS SITE COULD BE AND POTENTIALLY WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE.
AND NONE OF THIS IS SET IN STONE AS J JESSE ME MENTIONED.
UM, THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE TO COME, A LOT MORE ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO COME, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
BUT, UM, IT WAS A QUICK HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT A, THIS SITE, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING COULD BRING TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SITE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE APPROXIMATELY 90 ACRE SITE, UM, THAT'S STRADDLED BY FM 1626, JUST NORTH OF THE, UH, BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT.
UM, WE, WE DO FIND THAT THE SITE IS NOT ONLY A PARK FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, BUT BY DEFINITION THE 90 ACRES CONSIDER IT A REGIONAL PARK.
UM, WE'VE OUTLINED THE WALKABILITY OF, OF WHAT IMPACTS THIS SITE, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE COULD HAVE TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY, UH, FROM A LOCAL SCALE, BUT ALSO A REGIONAL SCALE.
SO THE, THE, UH, CIRCLES HERE SHOW A 10, 20, AND 45 MINUTE WALK.
AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE, IT DOES ENCOMPASS A LOT OF, OF THE CITY, UH, FROM A WALKABLE AND ACCESSIBILITY CONNECTIVITY PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE DATA FROM THE PREVIOUS PARKS MASTER PLAN AND, AND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT HAPPENED, UM, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE, WE, UM, CREATED AND, AND FACILITATED, WE, WE SAW A LOT OF COMMON THEMES.
AND SOME OF THOSE KEY KEY THEMES WERE THAT APPROXIMATELY 80% OF RESIDENTS OF KYLE WANTED MORE INDOOR RECREATION.
APPROXIMATELY 86% OF RESIDENTS FELT LIKE WE NEEDED MORE PARKS AND MORE RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, IT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO LOOKED AT NATIONAL STANDARDS.
THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION IS, IS THE STANDARD PRACTICE, UH, ACROSS THE US.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON THE RIGHT, UM, THE, THE THOUSAND RESIDENTS, LET, LET ME REPHRASE THIS.
THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS PER THOUSAND PER PARK SHOULD BE ABOUT 1500 RESIDENTS.
AND RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE KYLE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARK LAND, IT'S ABOUT 28 50.
SO THAT REALLY TELLS US THAT WE NEED MORE PARKS JUST FROM A NATIONAL STANDARDS, UH, PERSPECTIVE.
ALSO LOOKING AT NATIONAL STANDARDS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM GRAPH, WE LOOKED AT NRPA STANDARDS ALONG WITH CITY OF KYLE IN TERMS OF FACILITIES AND AMENITIES THAT ARE PROVIDED.
AND WHAT YOU SEE IS THE BOTTOM NUMBER SHOWS A GAP IN ALMOST EVERY CATEGORY EXCEPT THREE.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE LACKING 13.4 FLAT FIELDS TO BE AT A NATIONAL STANDARD FOR A SAY YOUR SIZE.
SO WE TOOK THIS WITH THE GRAIN OF SALT, SALT FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S NEEDS, WE KNOW THAT WE WANNA IMPROVE.
NOW WE ALSO NEED TO REALIZE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CRAM EVERYTHING INTO THIS ONE SITE.
YOU KNOW, SO, AND THAT'S WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PARKS RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN WILL COME IN LATER, WHICH I'LL TALK TO IN JUST A BIT.
BUT WE DID ASK SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT YOU FEEL ARE MISSING IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM? WHAT ARE SOME AMENITIES YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY? OR WHAT ARE YOUR TOP PRIORITIES OF AMENITIES THAT YOU NEED TO SEE FIRST BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IS ROLLED OUT? AND THIS IS JUST A SMALL LITTLE INFOGRAPHIC THAT DEPICTS A LOT OF THAT STORY THAT WE HEARD AND A LOT OF THOSE KEY THEMES THAT WE HEARD.
BUT WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AMENITIES THAT ARE MULTI-GENERATIONAL, THAT ARE FRIENDLY TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, THAT ALSO HIT DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS.
WE THEN ZOOMED OUT AND WE WERE ABLE TO, TO CHANNEL THE PROJECT VISION.
WHAT ARE THE BIG OPPORTUNITIES HERE? WHAT IS THAT VISION? YOU KNOW, LIKE JESSE MENTIONED, A COPY AND PASTE APPROACH DOESN'T WORK.
SO WE REALLY WANTED TO CREATE A UNIQUE SENSE OF PLACE, BUT ALSO A PROJECT AND, AND CATALYST
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FOR THE CITY OF KYLE THAT MAKES IT THEIR OWN, THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN EMBRACE.AND OUT OF THIS, WE WERE ABLE TO, TO DERIVE THE VISION THAT READS THAT THE KYLE SPORTS COMPLEX IS TO CREATE A UNIQUE DESTINATION THAT EMBODIES THE PROUD AND VIBRANT SPIRIT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SPORTS COMPLEX WILL OFFER A VARIETY OF AMENITIES, SPORTS, AND FOSTER AN INCLUSIVE AND CONNECTED ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL.
AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE KEY WORDS THAT REALLY STOOD OUT DURING, UM, THAT ENGAGEMENT AND FACILITATION SESSION.
BEYOND THAT, WE REALLY LOOKED AT WHAT, WHAT ARE THE GOALS? WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL HERE? AND WHAT DO WE WANT THIS PROJECT TO REALLY STAND FOR? YOU KNOW, WE WANTED IT TO BE MULTIPURPOSE, AND WE WANTED TO CREATE A MULTIPURPOSE DESTINATION.
WE WANTED IT TO BE CONNECTED, YOU KNOW, FOSTER CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESSIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY FOR IT TO BE ACTIVE AND ENHANCE COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES FOR IT TO BE A ECONOMIC CATALYST AND FOSTER ECONOMIC PROSPERITY.
LASTLY, WE WANTED IT TO HAVE STRONG IDENTITY, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS STRONG BRANDING AND COMMUNITY IDENTITY AND STORYTELLING UNIQUE S KYLE.
SO AS WE DID A DEEP DIVE INTO THE SITE SPECIFICALLY, WE REALIZED QUICKLY THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF GREAT OPPORTUNITIES, BUT ALSO A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS.
AND ONE THING THAT, UM, NEEDS TO BE MENTIONED IS THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A BLANK CANVAS WHERE WE CAN JUST GO CRAZY AND, AND JUST START PLOPPING FIELDS LEFT AND RIGHT.
IT, IT'S, WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF, UM, CHALLENGES, DRAINAGE, ACCESSIBILITY, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT, THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK AT A CLOSER LOOK DURING THE MASTER PLANNING PHASE THAT THAT'LL COME AFTER, AFTER THIS PHASE HERE.
SO ONTO TO WHAT THE CONCEPT IS.
SO IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU SEE THE JUST A SITE CONCEPT WITH SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
OVERALL, THIS CONCEPT HIGHLIGHTS FOUR BASKETBALL COURTS, 17 BLEACHERS, 30 PAVILION SHADES, FIVE YOUTH TURF FIELDS, 11 PICKLEBALL COURTS, 10 FULL-SIZED TURF FIELDS, FOUR PLAYGROUNDS, TWO MILES OF TRAILS VIBE TRAIL THAT'S BEEN EXPANDED.
FIVE VOLLEYBALL COURTS, FIVE SHOVEL, SHOVEL, BALL BOARD COURTS ALONG A LOT OF NATURAL AND OPEN SPACES THROUGHOUT.
ADDITIONALLY, YOU HAVE SOME BUILDINGS AND INDOOR FACILITIES THAT ALL ELABORATE IN JUST A MOMENT.
BUT WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT WE REALLY TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THE SITE.
UM, LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT CROMWELL, YOU SEE AN EXPANSION OF CROMWELL NORTH THAT CUTS THROUGH THE SITES AND, AND, UH, PROVIDES ACCESSIBILITY TO RICKSON.
YOU SEE AN APPROXIMATELY 750 SPACE PARKING GARAGE THAT THAT COULD BE PROPOSED INTO, INTO THIS CONCEPT.
UM, APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
YOU SEE A LARGE PLAZA SPACE IN FRONT OF THE RECREATIONAL FACILITY THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN EMBRACE, BUT ALSO CAN ATTEND EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ATHLETICS OR ANY KIND OF, UM, SPORTS LEISURE.
YOU SEE A VARIETY OF, OF SPORT VENUES.
UM, BUT THE HIGHLIGHT IS NUMBER FOUR, WHICH WE'RE CALLING THE CHAMPIONSHIP FIELD.
IT'S A MULTI-USE FIELD THAT CAN BE STRIVED FOR FOOTBALL AND SOCCER, BUT IT IS A PLACE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN COME TOGETHER AND REALLY CELEBRATE THOSE WINNING MOMENTS.
IT'S ALSO A GREAT PLACE TO, TO, UM, HAVE SOME SPECTATORSHIP TO LOOK FROM THE INTERIOR OF THE RECREATIONAL FACILITY OUT INTO THAT SPACE, BUT ALSO HAS THE FLEXIBILITY TO, TO POTENTIALLY HOST CONCERTS OR, OR BE, UH, ACTIVE IN A NUMBER OF VARIETIES A NUMBER OF WAYS.
LASTLY, YOU SEE THE, THE VIBE TRAIL BEING EXPANDED AND CONNECTED OVERALL TO THE SITE, WHICH PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL TWO MILES OF TRAIL CROSSING UNDER FM 1626, IMPROVING CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL.
AND THEN LASTLY, ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU SEE A VARIETY OF, UH, UH, TURF FIELDS THAT, AND SOME THAT ARE MULTI-USE FIELDS ALONG WITH PAR ADDITIONAL PARKING AREAS AND RETENTION AREAS.
SO THIS IS A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OR A AERIAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT THE, THE, UH, CONCEPT WOULD, COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, NOTHING IS SET IN STONE.
THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT, UM, PENCILED OUT TO SAY, YES, THIS IS WHAT A PROGRAM COULD LOOK LIKE ON A SITE LIKE THIS.
UM, THIS VIEW IS TAKEN FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT LOOKING OVER, UH, FM 1626, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO, UM, PROMOTE THE ACTIVATION OF THESE PUBLIC REALM SPACES AND INTERWEAVING THEM INTO SOME OF THESE SPORT AND RECREATION FACILITIES, ALONG WITH THE IMPROVED, UH, VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE.
HERE'S YOUR FIRST GLIMPSE OF WHAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS WOULD BE, THIS VIEW WOULD BE STANDING, UH, AT THE EXPANSION OF CROMWELL IN FRONT OF THE INDOOR RECREATION AREA.
WHAT YOU SEE IS AN IMPROVED PUBLIC REALM THAT NOT ONLY EXPANDS THE SHARED USE PATH NORTH, UH, ON CROMWELL, BUT PROVIDES
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THIS HUGE PLAZA SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO EMBRACE, BUT BE ACTIVE IN IT.WE IMAGINE THIS PLACE BEING EXTREMELY FLEXIBLE AND VIBRANT, UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SMALLER, UH, FOOD AND BEVERAGE BUILDINGS THAT ANCHOR THE PLAZA ON BOTH SIDES ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH.
HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW, ZOOMING INTO THAT PLAZA SPACE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, PLAZA OFFERS A INTERACTIVE SPLASH PAD WHERE WE PAY AMISH TO THE KYLE WATER TOWER.
YOU ALSO SEE AT A DISTANCE A HUGE JUMBOTRON IN, UH, AT THE FACADE OF THE INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY WHERE YOU CAN PROMOTE LOCAL GAMES, YOU CAN DO CHAMPIONSHIP, YOU KNOW, AWARDS.
YOU CAN DO A VARIETY OF THINGS.
BUT WE REALLY IMAGINE THE SPACE BEING ACTIVATED BY NOT ONLY THE INDOOR RECREATION CENTER AND THE PERIMETER PROGRAM, BUT ALSO A LOT OF THE OPEN ELEMENTS THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN USE AT LARGE.
EXPANDING OUR JOURNEY NORTH ON CROMWELL, THIS WOULD BE A PROPOSED NEW VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE WITH A, UH, UNDER CROSSING OF THE TRAIL OF THE VIBE TRAIL, WHERE WE WOULD START PROMOTING SOME, SOME MURALS, SOME PUBLIC ART, SOME STORYTELLING.
UH, WE IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF SCULPTURE THAT PAYS HOMAGE TO THE AGRICULTURE AND LIVESTOCK IN, IN COLLEGES DONKEY, ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE, RIGHT? OH, I THINK
WE, WE WERE THE J*****S CAPITAL OF THE WORLD AT ONE POINT, I THINK MR. I THINK MR. DEBY HAS JUST LEFT, BUT I'VE HEARD OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, WE HAVE A, A RED, UH, VIEW TRIANGLE OF WHERE IT, WHERE THAT VIEW IS TAKEN.
SO GOING, UM, GOING BACK, THIS IS, OH, HANG ON.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BRIDGE THAT GOES OVER THE LOW WATER CROSSING, ESSENTIALLY THIS? CORRECT.
YEAH, JUST NORTH OF THE PARKING GARAGE IN THIS IMAGE HERE.
SO THE EXPANSION OF CROMWELL, UH, VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN, UH, YOU START BRINGING IN SOME BRANDING ELEMENTS, NOT ONLY WITH, WITH THE BRANDING OF THE COMPLEX, BUT THE, THE STORYTELLING IN REGARDS TO ART MURAL, UM, SCULPTURES.
YOU, YOU HAVE A SAMPLE OF SOME OUTDOOR FITNESS, UM, EQUIPMENT, UH, LIGHTING, TRAIL SEATING AREAS.
UM, THIS IS A PROPOSED TUNNEL UNDER FM 1626 THAT WOULD HELP CONNECT THE, THE WEST AND THE EAST SIDE.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT, AT APPROXIMATELY 175 FOOT TUNNEL TO IMPROVE CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESSIBILITY THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
UM, SIDE NOTE, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT, UH, UH, CANDIDATE FOR THE T TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE GRANT.
UM, THAT COULD HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THE COST ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, BUT, UM, STANDS FOR A LOT OF THE SAME PRINCIPLES, BUT WILL DEFINITELY HELP PROMOTE THE CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESSIBILITY AT LARGE FOR THE SITE.
ZOOMING INTO THE, TO THE FACILITIES AND, AND THE, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, UM, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, AS PREVIOUS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY.
THAT BUILDING ALONE WILL BE COMPOSED OF 61,000 PLUS SQUARE FEET OF MULTIPURPOSE QUARTS, EIGHT FULL SIZE QUARTS TO BE EXACT.
YOU WOULD HAVE A 2000, UH, SQUARE FOOT INDOOR TRACK, 6,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMUNITY ROOMS, OVER A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF CATERING KITCHEN, AND THEN OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN WORKOUT AREAS.
LIKE I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TWO BUILDINGS ANCHORING THE NORTH AND SOUTH END OF THE PLAZA.
AND, UH, ONCE ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE ABOUT 7,500 SQUARE FEET.
WE IMAGINE THOSE BEING ALSO LIKE FOOD AND BEVERAGE THAT, UH, WE COULD EITHER HAVE, UM, RETAILERS OR VENDORS COME IN, BUT TO REALLY HELP ACTIVATE THAT SPACE AND, AND PROVIDE THAT SEASONAL INTEREST.
SO, AS YOU CAN TELL FROM, FROM THIS, FROM THIS PLAN VIEW HERE, THERE'S A LOT MORE HAPPENING THAN JUST A SPORTS FIELD.
UM, ON THE BACKSIDE ALONG THE FM 26 SIDE, YOU SEE SAND VOLLEYBALL, UM, AND, AND ADDITIONAL TRAILS.
AND THEN, AND THEN THAT, UM, CHAMPIONSHIP FIELD JUST TO THE NORTH OF THAT.
HERE'S A PERSPECTIVE STANDING FROM CROMWELL LOOKING AT THE INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY.
SO THIS IS LOOKING EAST HERE, AND, AND YOU SEE THAT REPETITION OF THAT JUMBOTRON, YOU SEE A LARGE OVERHANG.
WE REALLY WANTED TO, TO PROVIDE THE, THE TRANSPARENCY OF ACTIVATION AND USE IN, IN SPORTS AND MULTI-GENERATIONAL PLAY.
SO YOU SEE GLASS FACADE WITH THAT LARGE OVERHANG TO PROVIDE SHADE IN THIS CONCEPT.
WE HAVE A INTERACTIVE, UH, WATER FEATURE OR SPLASH PAD HERE, WHERE, WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN COME TOGETHER AND REALLY USE THE SPACE, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
YOU ALSO SEE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, UM, IN, IN THESE SPACES WHERE YOU CAN PROGRAM HIM VERY DIFFERENTLY.
ANOTHER VIEW HERE, ZOOMING IN JUST A LITTLE BIT
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MORE, AGAIN, WITH A 100,000 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY BUILDING, THIS VIEW HERE IS JUST A SLIGHTLY NORTH NEXT TO THAT 5,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, BUILDING WHERE, WHERE WE PROPOSE FOOD AND BEVERAGE.BUT YOU START SEEING, SEEING HOW THAT INDOOR SPACE REALLY STARTS SPILLING OUTDOOR, SPILLING BACK INDOOR AND, AND REALLY WORKING CYCLICAL TO, TO REALLY PROVIDE YOU THAT ECONOMIC CATALYST, UH, THAT WE, THAT WE DO ENVISION.
LOOKING AT THE NORTH SIDE, THIS WOULD BE, UH, A, A VIEW OF THAT CHAMPIONSHIP FIELD.
UM, WE'RE STANDING JUST BEYOND THE, THE BLEACHERS AND, AND, UH, STANDS THAT, THAT WE SAW IN THE PLAN VIEW.
AND THEN THIS VIEW WOULD BE FROM, UM, FM 1626, UH, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE VOLLEYBALL COURTS, THAT GLASS FACADE, THAT TWO STORY GLASS FACADE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE ADJACENT PARKING LOT AND ADDITIONAL TRAILS THAT, THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY THIS PARTICULAR CONCEPT.
NOW, AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WORKED REALLY FAST.
IT, IT WAS A VISIONING AND FEASIBILITY STUDY, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO PUT A VERY HIGH LEVEL OPINION OF PROBABLE CONSTRUCTION COST.
UM, I WILL CAVEAT THAT WE ALSO, UH, LOOKED AT OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO EITHER IMPROVE OR EXPAND IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS CONCEPT HAPPEN.
SO THESE NUMBERS DON'T JUST REFLECT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE 90 ACRES THEMSELVES, FOR EXAMPLE, IT IT, IT INCLUDES THE EXPANSION OF CROMWELL FROM AVENUE A ALL THE WAY UP TO RICKER, UM, AND INCLUDES THE TUNNEL CROSSING OF FM 1626 AND ET CETERA.
UM, HERE WITH A LARGE CONTINGENCY JUST BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT SAID, UM, I DON'T WANT THIS TO, TO TO BE A EXTREME SHOCK BECAUSE WE WILL SHARPEN THE PENCIL.
WE WILL GO INTO A DEEPER DIVE WHERE EASILY THAT NUMBER IS GONNA COME DOWN, COME DOWN, COME DOWN AS WE REFINE THE CONCEPT AND GET INTO A MUCH MORE, UM, SCHEMATIC DESIGN, UH, WHICH IS THE NEXT PHASE.
SO HOW DO ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS WORK TOGETHER? UM, SO WE CREATED THIS GRAPH AND, AND BEAR WITH ME, I'LL TRY TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT PRETTY QUICKLY HERE.
UM, SO THIS VISIONING AND FEASIBILITY STUDY IS INDICATED IN THE TWO RED DOTS.
SO WE HAD APPROXIMATELY FOUR WEEKS TO, TO COMPLETE THAT, THAT EFFORT.
UM, SHORTLY AFTER, POTENTIALLY THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK, WE'LL BE KICKING OFF THE OFFICIAL MASTER PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
SO THIS PROCESS IS GONNA BE ABOUT A SIX TO EIGHT MONTH PROCESS THAT HAS AN, A ROBUST STAKEHOLDER AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH COMPONENT TO IT.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF TOWN HALLS AND POPUPS WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS INTO WHAT AMENITIES WOULD THEY LIKE TO SEE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX.
WHAT TRAILS DO THEY WANNA SEE? WHAT ARE THEIR PRIORITIES? WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS? DO THEY LIKE SOME OF THESE RENDERINGS THAT WE CREATED AND, AND THE LOOK AND FEEL OR, OR IS THERE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER? BUT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, YOU, WE HAVE SITE VISITS, WE HAVE DESIGN CHARETTES, WE HAVE ALTERNATIVE CONCEPTS WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PRICING OPTIONS, DIFFERENT PRIORITY OPTIONS, DIFFERENT CONNECTIVITY OPTIONS, BOTH FOR THE SPORTS COMPLEX AND IF DIRECTED TO ALSO THE INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY.
BY THE END OF THAT PHASE, WE ARE GONNA BE PRO, UH, PROVIDING A 30% SCHEMATIC SET THAT'S GONNA BE USED FOR PRICING.
WE'RE GONNA RELEASE THAT OUT TO CONTRACTORS AND BIDDERS TO GIVE US ACCURATE MARKET, REAL-TIME PRICING, WHERE WE CAN AT THAT POINT DETERMINE DOES THIS NEED TO BE PHASED OUT? DO WE WANT TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE? DO WE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ALTERNATIVES DO WE WANT TO EXPLORE? AND THEN AT THAT POINT, WE'LL BEGIN DESIGN, UM, ON THAT, THAT PHASING PLAN OR, OR WHATEVER PHASE WE DECIDE TO AGREE UPON.
CONCURRENTLY, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS GRAPH, YOU SEE THE COMPREHENSIVE PARKS, RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE PLAN.
SO THE, THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PROS PLAN REALLY WILL TOOK TAKE A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PARKS AND RECREATION SYSTEM FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
WE'RE NOT ONLY GONNA LOOK AT WHAT YOUR, YOUR CURRENT INVENTORY IS, BUT WE'RE ALSO GONNA LOOK AT NATIONAL STANDARDS LIKE NRPA, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT FIVE DIFFERENT PEER CITIES TO SEE HOW YOU COMPARE WITH THEM.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA LOOK AT YOUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT, UM, GAP ASSESSMENTS.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT A, UM, EQUITY AND ACCESSIBILITY.
AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA LOOK AT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES ON HOW CAN WE PROVIDE DIFFERENT FINDING ALTERNATIVES TO HELP BRIDGE THAT GAP AND PROVIDE RESOURCES WHERE, WHERE WE CAN GO AFTER GRANTS OR PARTNERSHIPS THAT WILL HELP, UH, PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE AMENITIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS GAPS EARLY ON IN THIS PRESENTATION.
YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO OTHER PARKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY EQUITABLY.
SO WITH THAT, BETWEEN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY,
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THE SPORTS COMPLEX MASTER PLAN AND THE PROS PLAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COMPLETE 360 VIEW OF ALL PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE AND PUT TOGETHER A SOLID STRATEGY OF HOW NOT ONLY THE SPORTS COMPLEX SITE CAN BE A TRUE ECO ECONOMIC CATALYST THAT CAN BE EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO WHAT AREAS OF TOWN AND WHAT OTHER AREAS CAN WE IMPROVE TO INCREASE THE EQUITY, THE ACCESSIBILITY, AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT LARGE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE'S PROVIDING ITS RESIDENTS.SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO JESSE.
ALRIGHT, FINISHING UP HERE THE LAST COUPLE SLIDES.
THAT OPCC NUMBER CAN BE A LITTLE BIT SHOCKING WHEN YOU SEE IT, BUT I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT, AS WE'VE SAID MANY, MANY TIMES TODAY, THIS IS ALL CONCEPTUAL.
THIS IS ALL FIRST BLUSH AT THIS.
AS MARK WALKED, AS MARK WALKED THROUGH, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL, YOU CAN SEE THAT TIMELINE OF AFTER THE MASTER PLAN EFFORTS START A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I JUST, IT'S EASY TO LOOK AT THAT AND, AND THINK, OH MY GOODNESS, WE HAVE PLANS, WE HAVE RENDERINGS AND SHOVELS ARE GOING INTO THE GROUND TOMORROW.
THERE'S STILL A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT GOES INTO THIS.
AND ALSO, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT OUT OF THAT ENTIRE NUMBER, THE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE FUNDING MECHANISMS. IT'S NOT ALL BONDED MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT'S RELATED TO THAT OPCC, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FROM A PHASE ONE.
AND WE'RE ALSO NOT GONNA BUILD THE ENTIRE SPORTSPLEX ALL AT ONCE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE OF A PHASED APPROACH FOR THE SPORTSPLEX.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN AFTER WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS IS A PHASE ONE APPROACH WITH A COST TESTAMENT OF AROUND 65 MILLION THAT ENCOMPASSES ROUGHLY YOUR SITE PREPARATION, THE INDOOR RECREATION CENTER THAT OUT, THAT OUTDOOR AREA THAT MARK SHOWED OFF, AND MANY OF THE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS AND AMENITIES THAT ARE AROUND THAT, AROUND THE INDOOR SPORTS CENTER.
AND YOU ARE LOOKING AT, WE CAN, AND THE 65 MILLION IS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
IT HAS A TAX RATE IMPACT OF AROUND 5 CENTS.
IF WE WANT TO GET MORE INTO THESE, THE FINANCIALS ON THIS, PERVE AND HIS TEAM ARE HERE AND THEY CAN DIG INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE YOU ALL HEAR YOU ALL'S FEEDBACK ON THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS AND DISCUSSION ON THAT.
WE, IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS WE GO FORWARD.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A TIMELINE OF A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON EIGHT 15 ON AUGUST 15TH.
SO WE HAVE THE MEETING OF EIGHT SIX BETWEEN THEN.
AND IF WE NEED TO TWEAK AND RETOOL SOME STUFF BASED ON FEEDBACK, BASED ON DISCUSSION TONIGHT, WE COULD CALL A SPECIAL MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO COME BACK WITH TWEAKS AND CHANGES AND, AND HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ON IT.
BUT THIS IS THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS I HAND IT OVER TO YOU GUYS, I JUST WANT TO THANK MARK, MIKE, AND RYAN FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE.
IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS EFFORT.
THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TEAM THAT HAS PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE.
ALRIGHT, DO Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. ELIZONDO OR THIS FOR STAFF? COUNCILOR TOBI.
YOU WANNA GO FIRST THERE? NO, I'M, I WAS GONNA SAY, I'M ON THE TASK FORCE, SO I'D LIKE Y'ALL TO GO FIRST, SO THAT WAY Y'ALL GOT QUESTIONS.
UM, SO HERE, HERE IS JUST MY SPIEL ON THIS GREAT SIGN.
I KNOW A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT WENT INTO THIS.
SO FOR ME, I UNDERSTAND THE INCON ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT WE'RE TRYING, THAT, THAT CITY AND COUNCIL IS TRYING TO IMPOSE, UM, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO WHERE YOU CAN GENERATE REVENUE.
UM, WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE I, MY QUESTIONS WILL BE, OR HOW WILL WE FACILITATE THE CITY OF KYLE PARKS DEPARTMENT INVOLVEMENT IN THIS RIGHT HERE? AND HOW IS THIS GOING TO BENEFIT THE CITIZENS THEMSELVES YEAR ROUND IF OUR DRIVE AND OUR FOCUS IS TO BRING IN OUTSIDE MONEY? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HEAR A LOT HERE IS DRIVE DRIVING THE OUTSIDE MONEY.
WHEN, TO ME, I ALREADY SEE OUR AREA AS A GOLD MINE AS IT IS.
OKAY? 'CAUSE IF WE'RE FOCUSING ON TOURNAMENTS, WE'RE TUR FOCUSING ON SPORTS.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SCHOOL DISTRICT, LIKE WHEN WE WENT TO FRISCO, HOW THEY HAD BUSINESS OWNERS FOCUS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THEMSELVES AND HOW WE CAN GENERATE THAT REVENUE WITH THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES.
AND SO, LIKE WITH HAYES, ISD, WE HAVE 26 CAMPUSES.
OKAY? IN KYLE ALONE, WE HAVE EIGHT ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.
THAT'S 4,800 KIDS, ABOUT FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WHICH PROBABLY AROUND THE NUMBERS ARE GONNA BE ABOUT 1600 PE UH, STUDENTS, TWO HIGH SCHOOLS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST 10,000 STUDENTS JUST HERE THAT WE CAN INVEST IN, IN SPORTS, IN THESE TYPES
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OF ACTIVITIES.UH, VERSUS I GUESS BRINGING IN ALL THAT OUTSIDE MONEY WHEN WE CAN BE INVESTING IN IT HERE.
BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO LOOK AT IS THE HOTEL TAX AND THE RESTAURANTS AND THE BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH.
BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
WE BRING THOSE TOURNAMENTS HERE.
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE RESIDENTS DURING THOSE WEEKENDS? YOU'LL HAVE TRAFFIC, YOU'LL HAVE RESTAURANTS THAT'LL HAVE LONG LINES.
UH, YOU'LL HAVE OTHER, UH, ISSUES WHERE YOU HAVE MAYBE SOME FAMILIES HERE IN KYLE THAT MIGHT BE LEFT OUT OF THESE TYPES OF, UH, FACILITIES WERE DURING TOURNAMENT TIME.
SO THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THEIR TIME AS WELL, BECAUSE I WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UTILIZE, IF WE GO WITH THIS, WE UTILIZE THIS YEAR ROUND, NOT JUST FOR SPECIFIC TEAMS IN SPECIFIC SPORTS THAT HAVE TOURNAMENTS, BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE SEASONS, BASKETBALLS HAVE A SPECIFIC SEASONS, SOCCER HAS SPECIFIC SEASONS, AND THEN THAT'S IT.
HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO FOCUS THIS TYPE OF FACILITY GOING BACK TO THE ROOTS OF OUR RESIDENTS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE AND NOT MAYBE FEEL PUSHED OUT OR PRESSURED THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO USE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE BRINGING OUTSIDE SELECTED TEAMS. AND THAT'S GONNA, THAT OF COURSE, THAT REQUIRES MORE MONEY FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
THEY, AND SOME STUDENTS OR FAMILIES MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THOSE.
SO LET'S LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, THE CONCEPT DESIGN.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD KIND OF TAKE AWAY IN THE SENSE, AND WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THIS HOUR AND A HALF DISCUSSION ABOUT WATER.
MAYBE WE CAN LEAVE OUT THE SPLASH PADS AND JUST KIND OF JUST LEAVE THAT OUT AND, AND, AND MAYBE COME UP WITH ANOTHER.
YOU'RE DONE WITH SPLASH PADS FOR A WHILE,
I DO LIKE THE ONES AT STEEPLECHASE AND OVER THERE AT, UH, GREG CLARK PARK.
AND I KNOW THERE'S CER CERTAIN PEOPLE HERE THAT MAY DISAGREE WITH THAT OR, OR FROWN ON THAT.
BUT WHEN I DRIVE BY THERE AND I SEE KIDS OUT THERE PLAYING IN IT, THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME.
SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ON AND I'M GONNA CALL 'EM OUT.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THOSE IDEAS, THAT'S ENOUGH.
BUT AS, AS GOING FORWARD, I THINK WITH OUR WATER SITUATION, MAYBE, UH, WE CAN RE RE-LOOK AT THE, UH, THE, THE WATER FEATURES, EVEN IF IT'S FOUNTAINS THAT WE CAN BE SMART ON, ON MOVING FORWARD ON THAT END.
SO MY, MY FEEDBACK IS REALLY ON THE TURF FIELDS.
IT ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO WHAT, UH, YVONNE WAS SAYING EARLIER ABOUT THESE OTHER AREAS ARE, UH, MUCH COOLER CLIMATES THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
UH, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE, I KNOW OTHERS HAVE AS WELL OF REALLY GOING AND TOURING AND ASKING QUESTIONS.
SO THERE'S NOT MANY QUESTIONS I COULD ASK THAT I HAVEN'T ALREADY ASKED.
BUT IT'S ONE THING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THINK A TURF FIELD IS BETTER FROM A WATER STANDPOINT.
BUT EVEN UP IN WESTFIELD, INDIANA WHERE THAT, WHERE GRAND PARK IS, THEY HAVE A COMBINATION OF TURF AND NATURAL, AND I KNOW IT'S A BIG DEBATE.
I WATCHED THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DEBATE IT FOR A GOOD LONG WHILE, WHILE THEY TOOK THEIR STADIUM, UH, PROPOSAL TO THE VOTERS THAT ULTIMATELY FAILED.
BUT THE CITY OF KYLE'S IN THE SAME POSITION NOW WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO DECIDE BETWEEN TURF AND UH, UH, IRRIGATED GRASS AND OBVIOUSLY PROS AND CONS TO BOTH.
BUT EVEN IN WESTFIELD, INDIANA, YOU CAN, THERE'S NOTHING QUITE LIKE WALKING OVER TO A TURF FIELD AND PUTTING ONE HAND ON THE TURF AND ONE HAND ON THE GRASS RIGHT NEXT TO, TO THE SIDE.
AND EVEN IN WESTFIELD, I THINK THE TEMPERATURE WHEN WE WERE THERE WAS MAYBE 75, UH, THAT THE, THE, THE TURF WAS PROBABLY 10 DEGREES WARMER.
UH, I THINK THAT IN TEXAS, THE, THE BEST TURF MONEY CAN BUY WILL STILL GET ON THE EDGE OF BEING UNPLAYABLE.
'CAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING SPORTS WHERE YOU'RE FALLING DOWN, YOU'RE HITTING, IT'S NOT.
AND IT CREATES THAT HEAT AND RAISES THE OVERALL TEMPERATURE, WHICH HAS, UH, ADDITIONAL EFFECTS AS WELL.
SO WE'RE ON TWO, IN, TWO DAYS FROM NOW.
WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA BE RECEIVING IN THIS ROOM, I THINK IN THIS ROOM, A CHECK FOR ROUGHLY A MILLION DOLLARS AS PART OF A $3 MILLION WATER RECLAMATION MASTER PLAN, UH, TO ALLOW FOR US TO REUSE THE WATER AND BRING IT THROUGH TO THE PURPLE PIPE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GOLF COURSE, UH, USES RECLAIMED WATER, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR, UH, GOLF COURSE WATERED YEAR ROUND, EVEN IN TIMES OF DROUGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PUTTING POTABLE WATER.
THEY'RE PUTTING WATER THAT OTHERWISE WE WOULD JUST BE DUMPING INTO, UH, PLUM CREEK TO SEND DOWN STREAM.
UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, I, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE PLAN TO BRING FORWARD RECLAIMED WATER, WHICH IS PERFECT FOR SPORTS FIELD INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE SPORTS, UH, TO THE DISTRICT ITSELF, IS AN AMENITY IN AND OF ITSELF.
IT GIVES US THE ABILITY WITHOUT ACTUALLY, I THINK PROBABLY INCREASING THE COST TO GO FROM TURF FIELDS TO IRRIGATED FIELDS USING EXCLUSIVELY,
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UH, RECLAIMED WATER EXACTLY AS THE GOLF COURSE.WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME, BRINGING RECLAIMED WATER SPECIFICALLY TO THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT SO THAT WE CAN IRRIGATE, UH, THOSE KINDS OF, THOSE FIELDS.
SO TO ME, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL FIELD OUTCOMES.
AND THEY'RE THE ONLY POTENTIAL OP OPTIONS, IN MY OPINION.
INDOOR, WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY WATER, AND IS ALSO CONDITIONED AND, AND, AND SHADED.
UH, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE NICEST, BUT IT COSTS THE MOST EXTERIOR SHADED TURF, WHICH MEANS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF, UM, UH, EXPENSE TO MAINTAIN THAT FACILITY.
IT'S CHEAPER TO BUILD, BUT THERE'S A SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE TURF OR OUTDOOR IRRIGATED, UM, NATURAL GRASS.
THE, THE OUTDOOR UNSHADED TURF, IN MY OPINION IS, IS ALMOST UNVIABLE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WHERE WE'RE SEEING ROUTINELY IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.
'CAUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE CHART IN GRAND PARK WHERE ALL THEIR VISITORS COME FROM, YOU SEE THE SPIKE.
IT'S RIGHT IN THE DEAD MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.
THE JULY, I THINK IS GRAND PARK'S BIGGEST, BIGGEST MONTH.
SO THEY'RE DOING, AND WE WERE JUST OUT THERE.
THEY'RE DOING SOCCER, THEY'RE DOING BASEBALL, UH, ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I THINK BASEBALL'S EASIER ON TURF.
BUT I THINK SOCCER AND FOOTBALL IN PARTICULAR, WHERE YOU'RE DOWN ON THE GROUND A LOT, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT ACCURATE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A GOOD PLAN.
SO MY THINKING IS INDOOR CONDITIONED, OUTDOOR SHADED TURF, YOU LIKE A PAVILION OVER THE MAIN COURT, YOU KNOW, UH, OR OUTDOOR, UM, IRRIGATED THROUGH RECLAIMED WATER.
SO I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN THAT I WOULD WANT TO, THAT WOULD BE THE FRAMEWORK THAT I WOULD PURSUE AROUND STANTEC, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AND IT GIVES THE BEST QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL THREE FIELD TYPES.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT? 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE A CONTINUED DISCUSSION.
WELL, I'M REALLY GLAD I WENT TO THE INDIANA TRIP, UM, BECAUSE I GOT TO SEE THAT SPORTSPLEX AND WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE MAYOR ON THE, UH, NEED TO AVOID HER FIELDS.
UM, MY GRANDSON PLAYED FOOTBALL HERE AND STARTED IN EARLY AUGUST, UH, IN HIGH SCHOOL AND CAME HOME WITH BLISTERS ON HIS HANDS.
IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY, REALLY HOT.
UM, OUR, OUR PLANS FOR OUR REPURPOSED WATER ARE MOVING ALONG, UH, VERY NICELY IN OUR WATER DEPARTMENT.
PLUS OURA IS, IS STARTING A FACILITY TO, UH, TO PROCESS WATER, WASTE WATER.
SO WE'LL HAVE RESOURCES FOR THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS WAS COUNCIL MEMBER MEMBER TOBIAS'S CONCERN ABOUT THE LOCAL USE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT LOCAL USE WILL BE PRIMARY.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY SAW IN THIS PRESENTATION, UH, HOW THE LOCALS ARE CONSIDERED IN EVERYTHING.
THE, UM, AND THE SPORTS PLEXES AND THE ONE WE SAW WERE HEAVILY USED BY LOCALS, UH, THE LOCAL KIDS, UH, THE LOCAL ADULTS.
UH, I THINK THAT IT WILL BE HEAVILY USED.
THE SECONDARY IS THAT WE HAVE A, A FACILITY THAT CAN GENERATE INCOME TO PAY ITS OWN DEBT.
UM, SO YOU GET THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, IN MY OPINION.
YEAH, I, I JUST WANNA TOUCH MORE ON THE, UM, USABILITY.
UH, IT'S FOR ALL AGES, YOU KNOW, INDOOR PICKLEBALL, I MEAN, FOR EVERYONE.
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOKED AT ALL GEOGRAPHICS, ALL THE AGES, AND WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THIS SPORTS FACILITY.
WE JUST DON'T BUILD IT FOR, UH, OUR KIDS.
WE BUILD IT FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS A, A USE ON IN THIS FACILITY.
BUT ALSO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UM, WE, UH, BUILD IN A WAY THAT'S ECONOMICAL.
SO THE RIGHT BUILDING, UH, LET'S NOT JUST LOOK FOR AESTHETICS.
LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, USABLE, THAT WE CAN GET MORE OUT OF.
THE ONE IN CARMEL, INDIANA, I MEAN, YEAH, CARMEL, INDIANA WAS, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, A METAL BUILDING.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS NOT BUILT, IT WAS BUILT TO, FOR FUNCTIONALITY.
IT WAS NOT BUILT JUST FOR AESTHETICS, IT WAS FOR FUNCTIONALITY.
AND IT WORKED REALLY, REALLY GREAT THE WAY THEY WERE DOING.
SOMETHING WE CAN DO, UH, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FIELDS.
UH, ONE THING ABOUT TURF AND GRASS.
GRASS, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T PLAY ON IT ALL THE TIME, SO YOU'RE LIMITED.
SO I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME TURF.
THE ONE THING I DID LEARN WHEN I WAS VISITING ARIZONA IS THAT THE TURF CAN BE WATERED AS WELL.
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USE SOME OF THAT RAIN CLAIM, RECLAIM WATER TO, UH, WATER DOWN AND COOL DOWN THOSE TURF FIELDS AS WELL.SO YOU WANNA HAVE A MIXTURE OF BOTH.
THEY'VE GOT EXTREME TEMPERATURES.
SO, UH, THEY WERE THE EXPERTS ON IT.
AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING WITH TURF AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING WITH GRASS WAS PRETTY, UH, AMAZING.
AND THE RECLAIM WATER SYSTEM THAT THEY WERE USING TO, UH, WATER, THE, UH, TURF AND THE GRASS WAS PRETTY AMAZING.
UM, THEY'RE ALWAYS IN A DROUGHT, RIGHT? SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT KNOWLEDGE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERTS IN IT.
UH, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET.
BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE, THIS, THIS FACILITY'S GONNA BE FOR EVERYBODY.
IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE FOR, UH, OUTDOOR EVENTS.
'CAUSE THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME.
I MEAN, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS, I, I TALKED ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WE DRIVE ALL OVER, UH, YOU KNOW, CENTRAL TEXAS, EVEN OUTSIDE TO HOUSTON, DALLAS AREA FOR OUR KIDS, YOU KNOW, TO, FOR THEM TO PLAY SPORTS.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO REAL FACILITIES LIKE THAT AROUND THIS AREA.
EVERYTHING'S, UH, UP NORTH OR DOWN WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, EAST.
SO, UH, TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS CENTRALIZED WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR ALL THE KIDS IN THE AREA, ALL THE REGION.
BUT FOR THE ADULTS AND EVERYBODY ELSE, I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY, UH, BIG INVESTMENT.
BUT I THINK THE DRAW, IF WE DO THIS RIGHT AND WE PROGRAM IT RIGHT, IT, IT CAN PAY FOR ITSELF.
AND THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING.
UM, I, I'D LOVE TO BUILD SOMETHING JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE'RE PUTTING ALL THE BURDEN ON TAX BURDEN ON THE RESIDENTS HERE.
AND IT, YOU KNOW, THEN WE'RE PUTTING THE, UH, UH, BURDEN OF, YOU KNOW, THE DAILY, UH, FUNCTION, THE COST, EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO FOR ME, IT'S MAKING SURE WE GET A UA MIXTURE OF BOTH.
SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT PUTTING ALL THIS BURDEN ON OUR RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW.
AND OUR PRICING PEOPLE IS IMPORTANT.
SO, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IN A WAY THAT'S COST EFFICIENT, UH, EFFICIENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
YEAH, I MEAN, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS WELL.
UM, I JUST WANNA START WITH THE PROFORMA ON THE, I'M JUST WANTING MORE FOCUS ON YEAR ONE, YOU KNOW, FORGET THAT 760 YEAR ONE.
EXPLAIN IT TO ME AGAIN, AND THEN WE CAN GET TO THE OTHER PART.
UH, 'CAUSE I, YOU'RE SAYING WE WANNA BREAK EVEN, WE'RE GONNA BREAK EVEN IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS, THAT'S THE GOAL.
BUT IN YEAR ONE, ARE WE LOSING $267 TO OPERATE THIS VENUE? 267,000? YES.
NOW, HOW ARE YOU GETTING TOTAL ROOM NIGHTS COMPUTED? UM, 'CAUSE YOU'RE COMING UP WITH 30,000 ROOM NIGHTS.
WHERE ARE THOSE ROOMS? AND I'M, YOU'RE EXPECTING VISITORS IN THOSE ROOMS, CORRECT? BECAUSE THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S PART OF THE EQUATION, BUT I ONLY WANNA, I ONLY WANNA TALK ABOUT YEAR ONE, SO.
NO, THAT'S COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S A PROJECTED NUMBER OF TOURNAMENTS PER YEAR.
THOSE TOURNAMENTS COME WITH TEAMS PER TOURNAMENT, PLAYERS PER TEAM, SPECTATORS PER TEAM.
ALL THOSE CALCULATIONS ARE A GROSS NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING PER TOURNAMENT.
SO THEN UTILIZING THE PLACER ANALYSIS THAT WE DID TO UNDERSTAND IN PLACES LIKE ROUND ROCK, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE FOLKS ARE COMING FROM A DISTANCE THAT WE COULD PROJECT TO BE DEEMED THEY'RE STAYING OVERNIGHT AS OUT OF TOWN VISITORS.
THEY'RE NOT DRIVING BACK AND FORTH EVERY NIGHT FOR A TOURNAMENT AND THEY'RE STAYING AT THE VENUE.
THE, THE VENUE HAS ROOMS. NO, SIR.
IT, THEY'RE STAYING, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THAT VENUE WE'RE DEEMING EITHER AS DAY TRIPPERS OR OVERNIGHTERS.
SO IF YOU WERE TO HAVE THE COMPLEX HERE AND KYLE, WE WOULD SAY THAT FOLKS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING ON TEAMS WITHIN KYLE, THAT'S A DAY TRIPPER.
THEY'RE NOT STAYING IN A HOTEL OVERNIGHT.
SO THE OVERNIGHTERS, THERE'S A PERCENTAGE MM-HMM.
SO IN THIS CASE, LIKE WE SAID, WE THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE POTENTIAL TO DRIVE ROOM NIGHTS FOR BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL AND THAT INDOOR VENUE THAN THERE ARE DUE TO THE FIELD COUNT WITH THE SOCCER FIELDS.
SO IF WE HAD ALL THE HOTELS HERE, I THINK IT'S WORKING OUT TO ABOUT 90 ROOM NIGHTS A DAY TO COVER THE WHOLE YEAR.
YOUR, YOUR 30,000 ROOM NIGHTS.
THAT'S, THAT'S IF WE HAVE THE HOTELS, LIKE THE CAPACITY FOR THEM TO STAY SOMEWHERE, UM, I'M, THAT'S SO FOLLOWING, SO YOU'RE SAYING 30,000 ROOM NIGHTS? YES.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT AROUND SOMEWHERE.
SO, AND THE WAY THAT THIS IS, AND YOU'RE CORRECT, THIS IS JUST GROSS ROOM NIGHTS.
THIS IS FRONT GENERATED BY THE FACILITY.
UM, SO ONE THING IN OUR ANALYSIS THAT WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON IS ANALYZING THE COMPETITIVE SET OF HOTELS.
SO THE SECOND SLIDE, NOW WE GET INTO MAKING SOME MONEY WITH IT AND SALES TAX.
I'M ASSUMING IT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SPENDING AROUND, SO THEN THE MONEY CAN COME IN FROM THE FOOD, BUT THE LODGING, I DON'T
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UNDERSTAND THE RE THE TRANSPORTATION BEING A PROFIT AND I, SO THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT AS A PROFIT, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE RETAIL AND THEN I'M NOT A BIG BELIEVER IN INDUCED.'CAUSE THAT'S JUST, IF A PERSON HAS MORE MONEY, THEY'RE GONNA SPEND A LITTLE MORE.
THAT'S JUST AN ASSUMPTION TO ME.
BUT, BUT I'M GONNA, BUT IF I GIVE YOU THAT AND WE TAKE, YOU KNOW, YOUR YEAR ONE, NOW WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS, 10 MILLION IN THE RETAIL LODGING, YOUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE, ANOTHER 16 MILLION IN ALL THESE DIRECT COSTS AND INDIRECT, I GUESS, EXPENSE REVENUES.
'CAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUTTING ALL THAT AS REVENUES PART.
ARE WE, ARE, ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE PROFORMA? YEAH, JUST THE PROFORMA YEAR ONE, THE DIRECT AND INDUCED SPENDING.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT W WE'RE GETTING THAT IT'S REALLY THE, THE, THE, UM, REGIONAL DRAW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S GONNA BRING IN THE MONEY.
SO NOW YOU'RE ALSO ADDING THE JOBS AS REVENUE MAKERS TOO.
SO THESE, THESE, THE, THESE ARE NOT REVENUE STREAMS FOR THE FACILITY.
I I THINK THERE'S TWO SEPARATE QUESTIONS.
ONE IS AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE, THE CORRECT PIECES THAT HE'S LOOKING AT.
THE OTHER IS THE DIRECT PROFORMA OR FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS FOR THE, THE SITE.
SO THIS, SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT, THEY'RE NOT TIED TOGETHER.
COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER.
SO IF WE DO THAT, ARE WE AT, ARE YOU SAYING $33 MILLION IN YEAR ONE FROM THE DIRECT IMPACT OF THIS VENUE IS WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT ON, ON A SHEET? UH, IF, IF YOU COULD POINT ME TO WHICH SLIDE EXACTLY.
SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO ADD YOUR 10, YOUR 16 AND YOUR SEVEN.
SO THE 16 IS THE 10 OF DIRECT SPENDING AND THEN 4 MILLION FROM INDIRECT AND 2 MILLION FROM INDUCED.
SO IN TOTAL $16 MILLION WORTH OF SPENDING THAT'S BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN DIRECT, INDIRECT, AND INDUCED.
SO THEN EARNINGS ARE GENERATED FROM THE SPENDING.
SO THE, OF ALL THE SPENDING THAT WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE RESULT OF THE PROJECT, THAT WOULD SUPPORT ROUGHLY 7.4 MILLION IN EARNINGS, IN EARN CORRECT.
IN EARNINGS ACROSS 172 JOBS IN YEAR ONE.
SO YOU SAID 7 MILLION, RIGHT? IN EARNINGS? CORRECT.
NOW IF WE TAKE THE 180 5 THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT THE END OF THIS SLIDE, AND WE DIVIDE THAT BY 30 YEARS, THAT $6 MILLION THAT WE HAVE TO PAY OUT OF THIS, IF I'M, I'M GONNA USE YOUR NUMBERS, THE 1 35.
SO THEN THAT REALLY ONLY NETS US $1 MILLION IN YEAR ONE.
AND THAT'S ASSUMING IT'S ALL, IT ALL GOES AS PLANNED, RIGHT? UM, I'M, I'M SORRY I'M NOT FOLLOWING THE 7 MILLION IS RE IS IS DIRECT IMPACT, BUT IT COST US 6 MILLION THAT YEAR IF, IF YOU DIVIDE THE 180 5 OKAY.
BY THE 30 YEARS THAT YOU HAVE HERE, THAT YOU HAVE 30 YEARS IN THE WHOLE PROFORMA.
SO, SO 1 MILLION IS REALLY THE NET IF IF, OF THE DIRECT IMPACT VALUE.
WELL, I I THINK IT THAT'S COMPARING IT JUST TO THE EARNINGS.
THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE EARNINGS.
AND, AND THE EXPENSE, NOT THE WHOLE OPERATION OF THE VENUE.
SO, SO THERE'S AN EARNINGS CALCULATION.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE POINTING OUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU HAVE SALES TAX PROJECTIONS, HOTEL TAX PROJECTIONS, IF YOU DID THE VENUE TAX, THAT'S AN RIGHT, RIGHT.
IT'S AN, THOSE ARE BIG GIFTS, RIGHT? THAT'S IT.
WELL, BUT THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE IS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE EARNINGS.
AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT AND IT'S THE PRO FORMA FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF, AND THEN THE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ESTIMATE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
THAT'S WHAT I, THERE'S LOT OF WAYS TO MEASURE THAT, BUT, UM, I I THINK JUST FOCUSING ON THE EARNINGS COMPARED TO THE ANNUAL COST OR THE 180 5 DIVIDED 30 YEARS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE COMPARISON BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS INVOLVED.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, IF YOU HAVE OTHER COMMENTS, RYAN, ON THAT, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WE COULD, THERE'S ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT YOU NEED TO POINT OUT.
I MEAN, IF YOU BRING IN 3 MILLION OR 4 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE.
IF, IF THAT'S THE SPENDING AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, PER TOURNAMENT USE AND SURE.
AND I, I THINK IF WE SHOWED THE ANNUAL ESTIMATE OF PEOPLE ATTENDING THE VENUE PER YEAR, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
'CAUSE I THINK BY YEAR FIVE AT STABILIZATION WE HAD ABOUT 765,000 IN TOTAL.
SO WHAT CONCERNS ME THERE IS LIKE THE COMPETITION AROUND US.
SO WHAT'S TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU SHOWED THE PICTURE AND THE DENSITY OF PEOPLE GOING
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FROM HOUSTON ELSEWHERE, HOUSTON'S ALREADY A LARGE CITY THAT HAS A LOT OF THIS STUFF, RIGHT? SO LIKE NOW WE'RE STARTING TO COMPETE WITH THE, WITH ROUND ROCKS REGIONAL DRAW, OTHERS ARE GONNA BUILD IT AS WELL.SO HOW WILL WE BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND SUSTAIN THAT? WELL, I THINK THAT GETS BACK TO THE, THE QUESTION OF PRIVATE VERSUS PUBLIC MANAGEMENT.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A, A PUBLIC MANAGER WHO'S FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE IN CHARGE OF GENERATING ALL OF THAT ACTIVITY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE ASSETS THAT A NATIONAL OPERATOR WOULD HAVE WHERE THEY STEP INTO THE DOOR DAY ONE, THEY KNOW ALL THE EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON.
THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO FILL THE VENUE SO THAT THEY CAN PLUG AND PLAY THOSE EVENTS TO HELP FILL THE VENUE ON THE WEEKENDS.
THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE SERVICING THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THIS GETS BACK TO THE QUESTION OF SERVICING THE PUBLIC OR SERVICING THE CITY.
UM, I MEAN, WE'VE WORKED IN MANY PLACES WHERE, AND I THINK IT'S A, A GROWING CONCERN HERE.
AS YOU CONTINUE TO GROW POPULATION WISE WITHOUT THE ASSETS YOUR CITIZENS ARE GONNA BE LEAVING TO GO TO CITIES, YOUR NEIGHBORING CITIES THAT DO HAVE THESE ASSETS THAT CAN REALLY GET AND SUPPLY THAT DEMAND.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, JUST STICKING WITH INDIANA, GRANT PARK ALLOWED THEM TO BUILD THE MOST COMPETITIVE TRAVEL SOCCER PROGRAM IN ALL OF THE STATE OF INDIANA WITH THE INDIANA FIRE JUNIORS.
AND NOW THEY'RE THE ONES HOSTING THOSE EVENTS WITHIN WESTFIELD.
AND THOSE KIDS IN HAMILTON COUNTY AND THE INDIANAPOLIS AREA HAVE GRAND PARK TO PLAY WITH A TOPNOTCH FACILITY THAT WITHOUT THAT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD A, A PROGRAM OF 5,000 KIDS ACROSS U EIGHT TO, TO U 16, U 17, U 18.
SO I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH ON MM-HMM,
THAT'S JUST THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO THAT POINT.
SO HOW DO THESE VENUES LIKE, UH, UM, ACCOMMODATE THE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY TOURNAMENTS? UM, THERE'S SCHOOL IN SESSION, THERE PEOPLE ARE WORKING AND THEN YOU TRYING TO CRAM THIS ON THE WEEKEND, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR LOCALS NOW TRYING TO USE THAT ON THE WEEKEND.
'CAUSE THEY'RE ALSO WORKING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND THEY WANNA SPEND TIME WITH THEIR KIDS ENJOYING THE FACILITY AS WELL.
SO THEN HOW, HOW ARE THESE VENUES DOING THAT? YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S A BALANCE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GETS NEGOTIATED WITH A PRIVATE OPERATOR.
AGAIN, IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT YOU CHOOSE, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE LAID OUT THAT WE NEED DISCOUNTED RATES FOR THE LOCALS OR WE NEED X, Y, Z FOR THE LOCALS.
WHEN YOU'RE NEGOTIATING THAT DEAL WITH AN OPERATOR, I MEAN, THEY OPERATE MULTIPLE FACILITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THEY GET THE SPECTRUM MORE THAN ANYBODY THAT THEY'RE WALKING INTO YOUR DOORS AND WALKING INTO YOUR CITY TO HELP DELIVER A PRODUCT THAT MAKES SENSE.
AGAIN, THEY DO HAVE, THEY ARE TASKED ON YOUR BEHALF TO MAKE SURE THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR THESE NUMBERS AREN'T NEGATIVE AND IT NEEDS TO BE COVERED BY YOUR GENERAL FUNDS.
SO THEY DO HAVE OBLIGATIONS TO MEET FROM A REVENUE PERSPECTIVE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO RESPECTIVE OF THE, THE NEEDS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY KNOWING THAT IT CAN'T JUST BE, UH, TAX STREAM THAT ARE GETTING PLEDGED TO THE FACILITY AND THEREFORE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, THAT HAVE TO REALLY BURY THAT BURDEN AND, AND ICE OUT THE LOCALS.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A, A FACILITY THAT NEEDS TO BE UTILIZED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD AT INCORPORATING PROGRAMS LIKE PICKLEBALL DURING THE DAY FOR THE LOCALS THAT MAY BE UNDERSERVED FOR THINGS LIKE THAT IN A GROWING SPORT.
SO, UM, WHY WAS THE INDOOR, AND THIS MIGHT BE A BLANK QUESTION, WHY WAS THE INDOOR LEFT BLANK LIKE VAGUE? LIKE WHAT'S GONNA BE IN THERE? WE HAVE A 50 50, 50 $5 MILLION ITEM, BUT NOT NOTHING SPECIFIC WITH IT.
THEY, THEY TALKED WHAT WAS LEFT BLANK? I'M SAYING THE INDOOR NO, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE VOLLEYBALL AND BASKETBALL COURTS.
YEAH, WE, WE, SO WE KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE THE INDOOR PART.
THAT'S WHAT WE GET TO DECIDE AS A COUNCIL.
YEAH, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE.
THERE'S NO, COULD YOU GET TO THE SLIDE AND SHOW? YEAH.
SO AT THE BOTTOM WE HAD THE PROGRAM OF WHAT THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET COULD POTENTIALLY BE.
BY ALL MEANS THIS IS NOT FINALIZED, BUT THIS WAS AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE USED TO SAY THIS PROGRAM WOULD FIT WITHIN THAT BUILDING FOOTPRINT, WHICH WOULD APPROXIMATELY EQUAL A $55 MILLION, UH, COST.
ALSO, LIKE WHEN YOU SAID THAT WE HAVE VERY FEW FIELDS MM-HMM.
SO THAT NUMBER, WE HAVE SCHOOL FIELDS WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PARK MASTER PLANS AND WE LOOK AGAINST NRPA STANDARDS, UH, NRPA REALLY, UH, LOOKS FOR PUBLIC SECTOR, UH, MUNICIPALITIES AND AGENCIES ONLY, AND THAT'S KIND OF THEIR COMPARISON.
UM, THE REASON IS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT YOU FULLY CONTROL.
YOU NEVER KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE AN AGREEMENT WITH AN ISD
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OR IF, IF THEY DECIDED TO GO IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION.SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR COMPARISONS, WE REALLY LOOKED AT CITY OWNED FACILITIES THAT ARE EITHER OWNED OR MANAGED, BUT A HUNDRED PERCENT BY THE, BY THE MUNICIPALITY.
UM, GOING BACK TO, TO THOSE STANDARDS THEMSELVES, UM, WHAT WE DID, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE WERE MOVING SO, SO QUICKLY, WE DID A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF WHERE KYLE, UH, SITS IN REGARDS TO NRPA STANDARDS FOR CITIES IN YOUR SIZE, AND THAT'S, UH, MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN A CERTAIN POPULATION RANGE.
AND WE DID THAT COMPARISON OF YOUR EXISTING INVENTORY VERSUS THOSE NATIONAL STANDARDS.
NOW, WHEN WE KICK OFF THE PROS PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFY FIVE PEER CITIES THAT ARE, OR THAT ARE IN ENCLOSED PROXIMITY OR, OR WHO WE COMPETE WITH.
AND THEN NOT ONLY LOOK AT THOSE NATIONAL STANDARDS, BUT ALSO AGAINST PEER CITIES.
HOW DO WE COMPARE AND WE'RE WE'LL PROVIDE THAT, THAT FEEDBACK IN THAT REPORT.
LAST, LAST QUESTION, AND I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE HARSH.
THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS, THE RESIDENTS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.
THEY, THEY LIKE IT WHEN I KNOW THE MONEY QUESTIONS.
SO LIKE, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE LAST SLIDES SAYS THAT THE TAX INCREASE TO EACH RESIDENT'S HOUSEHOLD, IF WE DID THE 65 MILLION IS A HUNDRED SEVENTY, A HUNDRED FIFTY, A HUNDRED FORTY $5 A YEAR.
SO IF WE DO THE 180 5 EACH RESIDENT IS LOOKING AT A 400, $450 TAX INCREASE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S APPLES TO APPLES.
THERE'S MULTIPLE FUNDING MECHANISMS FOR THAT 180 5.
AND THAT'S REALLY JUST A BROAD BRUSH AS FAR AS, SO HOW WILL WE GET THE OTHER ONE? 20 121 MILLION? WELL, I, THE FIRST THING IS WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO BUILD 185 MILLION
THAT'S THE FIRST THING, BUT, WELL, BECAUSE, BECAUSE YOUR BO THE LANGUAGE YOU'RE USING FOR THIS BOND IS 65 MILLION OR MORE.
SO WHERE ARE WE? IT IT, THE LANGUAGE WOULDN'T BE 65 MILLION OR MORE.
IT, IT WOULD BE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT THAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED AND THAT'S IT.
UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS AT PLAY.
YOU HAVE THET DISTRICT, TOURIST DISTRICT NUMBER TWO.
WHICH HA DOES HAVE FUNDING, UH, INCLUDED IN IT.
A PARKING GARAGE HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR PERT TWO, THAT'S PART OF THIS 180 5.
THE COST OF EXTENDING CROMWELL UP INTO THIS AREA, WHICH I THINK WAS FIVE AND A HALF MILLION THAT WE ESTIMATED.
UH, THAT'S ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT FOR THAT.
WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED FOR THE OUTDOOR SPORTSPLEX COMPONENT, THERE WAS $14 MILLION THAT WAS AUTHORIZED BY THE VOTERS.
UH, PREVIOUSLY 7 MILLION BY THE COUNTY AND 7 MILLION BY THE CITY.
UH, WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH OUR FINANCIALS AND CAN WE DO A TAX INCREASE IN HERE, BRIAN, JUST AS ANOTHER MECHANISM, A SALES TAX INCREASE? UH, NO.
YOU, YOU, YOU CANNOT DO A SALES TAX INCREASE.
WE'RE CAPPED OUT ON THE SALES TAX RATE.
I THINK THERE'S, CAN'T YOU CREATE A, A DISTRICT TAX? NO.
THAT'S A, THAT'S FOR VENUE TAX.
IS THE 2% HIGH? HIGH? I MEAN, IF THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY IN THERE, THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND IT.
BUT IF I COULD, THERE'S JUST A FEW OTHER ELEMENTS TO THIS AS WELL, THOUGH.
THE 14 MILLION, IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH OUR PARK, CIP, WE'VE IDENTIFIED ANOTHER 16 MILLION IN FUNDING THAT COULD BE USED FOR THE SPORTSPLEX AS WELL.
SO THAT 30 MILLION, THE 65 MILLION, THE MONEY FROM TURS TO THOSE THINGS ADD UP TO DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF FUNDING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
WHAT LEVELS OF SPENDING ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH? WHAT ARE THE ASSETS THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH? AND WE WOULD TAILOR ALL OF THOSE ASSETS DOWN TO THE FUNDING LEVEL THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY IS COMFORTABLE WITH.
THE 180 5 IS, I LOOK AT IT AS A GRAND PLAN, AND IT'S A MENU OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE.
SOME OF THOSE WILL DECIDE WE DON'T WANT TO DO SOME, WE WILL DECIDE WE WANT TO DO, AND WE GET TO MIX, MIX AND MATCH ALL THOSE TOGETHER TO SEE HOW WE WANT TO DO IT.
BUT THE VENUE TAX IS AN ELEMENT, UH, THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US.
WE'VE PROVIDED THE PROJECTIONS WITH RYAN OF WHAT THAT MIGHT GENERATE.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY NOT THE NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS IN THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT A FACILITY LIKE THIS, BUT THIS WOULD BE AN IMPETUS, RIGHT.
TO BRING THOSE HOTELS INTO THE CITY TO DEVELOP THE TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE MAY NEED TO HAVE IT.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S AN ANSWER THAT MAKES SENSE.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY MEANT TO BE, UM, CONCEPTUAL BRAINSTORMING WHAT THE, WHAT THE FACILITY COULD BE AS WE LOOK AT IT THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT, UH, AVENUES.
I WOULD SAY LIKE, BUT THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE FINANCIALLY TO LOOK AT IT.
I'D BE A LITTLE CAUTIOUS ABOUT LIKE THE PARKS FUNDING BECAUSE, JUST FOR EQUITY FOR ALL THE OLDER PARKS.
'CAUSE I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THIS, WOULD THIS WOULD, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE MORE FROM PARKS GENERAL FUND? YEAH.
AND I, I THINK THAT WHEN IT'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, REALLY NICELY FINANCED THROUGH THE BONDS.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING IS UPDATING THE PARKS MASTER PLAN AND REALLY SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE, THINK
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ABOUT WHERE ARE OUR PARK ASSETS GOING TO BE PLACED, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THEM.WE'VE MADE A COMMITMENT EARLIER WITH THE COUNCIL TO INVEST IN THE LAKE KENSINGTON PARK, UH, WHICH WILL BE A BRAND NEW PARK.
WE WANT THAT TO BE A SIGNATURE FACILITY.
WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF AMENITIES THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THERE? AND WHAT ARE ALL THE OTHER ASSETS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IN THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PROCESS THAT WE WANNA SPEND THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS WITH STANTEC WORKING ON.
BUT WE HAVE, IN ADDITION TO THE MONEY THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR LAKE KENSINGTON PARK, WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER 25 MILLION THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED FOR REINVESTING IN OUR EXISTING PARK SYSTEM.
THAT'S BEYOND THE DOLLARS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
WHEN WILL WE, WHEN WILL WE GET TO A CLOSER NUMBER OF LIKE, WHAT IT MIGHT COST A RESIDENT TO USE IF THERE'S GONNA BE A COST PER PER HOUR USE? I THINK IT'S A FEW MONTHS AWAY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC ASSETS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROGRAM IT.
ARE THESE THE MENU OF THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S A SOMETIME AWAY BEFORE WE, I MEAN, YEAH.
'CAUSE I WAS REALLY A PROPONENT OF MAKING IT AFFORDABLE.
A LARGE PORTION OF THAT IS GONNA COME DOWN TO THE OPERATOR.
IF THE CITY'S LIKE BRIAN WAS, WAS SPEAKING EARLIER, WHETHER THE CITY'S GONNA BE OPERATING THIS FACILITY OR IF IT'LL BE A PRIVATE OPERATOR THAT COMES IN.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
I I WANNA ADDRESS A FEW THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL HAD, AND I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WE HAVE TWO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THAT CAN WEIGH IN.
BUT JUST ON THAT LOCAL ASPECT, IT'S MAYBE A FAILURE OF OURS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU ALL THAT IN ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, THAT WAS A HUMAN, THAT WAS A, A TREMENDOUS ASPECT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OPERATOR WHO, WHOMEVER IT TURNS OUT TO BE UTILIZING THIS 24 7.
THAT'S ABSOLUTELY HOW YOU GET THE BEST VALUE OUT OF THIS.
AND THEN, AND THEN PROVIDING IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, DEPENDING ON THE PROGRAMMING, SOME EXTRA ABILITY FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AND, AND THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE THESE EITHER AT A, A TREMENDOUSLY LOWER COST OR TO HAVE FIRST PREFERENCE ON SCHEDULING.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT YOU WOULD WORK OUT WITH YOUR OPERATOR.
AND WE'VE TALKED TO OPERATORS AND THEY HAVE SAID THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY TOP OF MIND WITH WHAT, WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND I THINK RYAN DID A TREMENDOUS JOB OF ALSO SHOWING THAT THERE'S A BALANCE BETWEEN THE LOCAL AND REGIONAL DRAW AND THE STATEWIDE DRAW.
SO DEPENDING ON WHAT FIELDS YOU HAVE, WHAT COURTS YOU HAVE, SOME OF 'EM ARE GONNA DRAW VERY LARGELY FROM, FROM STATEWIDE.
AND SOME ARE REALLY GONNA DRAW FOR THE LOCAL.
AND SO HAVING THAT, THE OPERATOR, HAVING THAT BALANCE AND ALLOWING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT IS, IS TOP OF MIND FOR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO THE PROGRAMMING.
AND ANYTHING ABOUT ICE HOCKEY, I HAVE TO BRING IT UP JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT.
'CAUSE I SAID I, I'M A MAN OF MY WORD.
I, I WE DID IS ICE HOCKEY STILL IN THIS PLAN THAT WE LOOKED AT THERE? WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ICE HOCKEY RINKS IN THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
AND I WILL SAY WITH THE, WHEN I WAS ASKING THE, THE SIR, I WAS ASKING THE, THE NUMBERS WE CAME UP WITH, I KNOW THEY WERE ROUGH AND QUICK.
I I THINK THEY WERE VERY CLOSE TO WHAT I SAW IN A FEASIBILITY REPORT THAT I GOT HERE.
WHO MADE THE FEASIBILITY REPORT? THE FIRST ONE? ARE YOU FROM CSL? YEAH, THE CSL STUDIES.
THAT WAS ABOUT A $3 MILLION GROSS REVENUE IN A YEAR.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO FIGURE OUT HOW CLOSE I THOUGHT WE WOULD BE IF IN YEAR ONE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT FEASIBILITY REPORT IS LOOKING AT SPORTSPLEX.
I I WILL JUST SAY I HAVE NEVER SEEN A FACILITY GENERATE REVENUE LIKE THAT, WHICH IS WHY WE WANTED TO BE MUCH MORE CONSERVATIVE.
INFORM YOU THAT WE'VE TALKED WITH FOLKS THAT HAVE GIVEN US ACCESS TO THEIR FINANCIALS TO HELP CATER A PRO FORMA TO THIS MARKET BASED OFF CHANGES THAT WE FELT WERE APPROPRIATE.
THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY SAID DIFFERENT YEAH.
THEY COULD, THEY COULD CHARGE MORE FOR THE USE.
I, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST SAY MY POINT OF COMPARISON WOULD BE TO THE FOLKS THAT YOU MET IN WESTFIELD THAT GENERATE ABOUT 5 MILLION VISITS A YEAR, I WOULD JUST PUT IN THE PERSPECTIVE THE SCALE OF THEIR FACILITY VERSUS WHAT WAS LAID OUT IN THE PREVIOUS FEASIBILITY REPORT.
AND BY DOING SOME QUICK CALCULATIONS OF VISITS PER ICE SHEET OR VISITS PER FIELD.
I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE PROJECTIONS WERE SLIGHTLY AGGRESSIVE AND OVERLY, SLIGHTLY MM-HMM.
UM, SO I, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH WHAT THEY'VE LAID OUT AND JUST INFORM YOU THAT WE DID REFERENCE OTHER COMPARABLE, SIMILAR SIZE FACILITIES TO HELP BUILD THAT PROFORMA.
ONE IS, I APPRECIATED YOUR COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE PHASING.
UH, I THINK THE PHASING IS GONNA BE CRITICAL.
SO, WHICH MEANS THAT THE PROFORMA YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO, YEAR THREE IS ONLY THEORETICAL TO HELP US UNDERSTAND.
BUT NONE OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE THE WAY IT ACTUALLY PLAYS OUT FOR US.
ESPECIALLY IF WE START WITH FIELDS AND THEN MOVE TO INDOOR AND MOVE, MOVE ALONG.
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YOU KNOW, BUILD IT IN CHUNKS.IT'S JUST, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
NOW, I WANTED TO ADD WHAT THE, UH, OPERATOR IN WESTFIELD AT GRAND PARK ACTUALLY TOLD US ABOUT LOCAL VERSUS PRIVATE.
THEY SAY THE THE PROJECT DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT THE LOCALS.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRASS FOR ROUND ROCK AND COLLEGE STATION AND GRAND PARK, THAT, THAT THESE THINGS, IT'S LIKE PRIVATE OR, OR ARE, YOU KNOW, LIKE REGIONAL DRAW VERSUS LOCAL AMENITY.
IF YOU TAKE ONE AWAY, THE PROJECT FAILS.
SO IF WE SAY WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ONLY ON MAKING IT LOCAL, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN IT SUCH THAT IT DOESN'T ATTRACT THE REGION, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO DO IT THAT WAY AND WILL BE UNDERUTILIZED TREMENDOUSLY.
THEY'RE, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE PRIVATE TOURNAMENT LEADS THAT THEY RUN, AND THEN THEY HAVE A TON OF SPACE IN BETWEEN THOSE TOURNAMENTS WHERE LOCAL RESIDENTS CAN COME AND PRACTICE AND DO THINGS.
AND FOR MYSELF, THIS IS THE REASON WHY.
CAN, CAN WE GO TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE, THE, UM, KYLE'S, UH, HOW WE'RE BELOW THE REGION ALONG THAT BOTTOM SLIDE? 'CAUSE EVEN, EVEN THAT BOTTOM SLIDE IS, UM, DIFFICULT FOR ME.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY WORSE THAN THAT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE ONE TENNIS COURT, NO, WE HAVE ZERO.
UH, THE ONE TENNIS COURT WE HAVE IS, IS, UH, WRONG, WRONG SIZE.
MY MY KIDS ARE IN GOING INTO SEVENTH GRADE.
THEY'VE PLAYED SOCCER THEIR ENTIRE LIFE.
THEY HAVE PLAYED SOCCER IN KYLE PRECISELY ZERO TIMES.
THEY'VE PLAYED SOCCER AT THEIR SCHOOLS PRECISELY ZERO TIMES.
YOU DON'T EVEN GET TO START PLAYING SOCCER UNTIL YOU'RE IN SEVENTH GRADE.
AND IT'S NOT OPEN FOR ALL YOU HAVE TO TRY OUT BE ON A TEAM.
YOU DON'T GET TO GO AND PLAY AND PRACTICE.
SO THE, UH, THE SCHOOL'S INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY COVERS 5% OF WHAT THE OVERALL DEMAND IS IN, IN OUR REGION.
OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
WELL, I WOULD JUST ADD IS YOU CONTINUE TO GROW THAT PROBLEM'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE.
AND IN TERMS OF ACTUAL PUBLIC, FOR PEOPLE NOT PRIVATE, UNDERNEATH THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS WHAT A SCHOOL IS, SELECT PEOPLE GET TO USE IT AND ACTUAL PUBLIC FACILITIES, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE WORST IN REGION, WORST IN REGION.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT WE DON'T HAVE TENNIS COURTS, WE DON'T HAVE PICKLE COURT BALL COURTS.
WE HAVE TECHNICALLY TWO, THEY RUN EXACTLY ZERO TOURNAMENTS, ZERO GAMES.
IF YOU'RE A KID HERE AND YOU WANNA BE ON A SOCCER TEAM, BE ON A BASKETBALL TEAM, DO ANYTHING, WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF THEM.
YOU MUST LEAVE EVERY SINGLE SPORTS, UH, ENGAGEMENT THAT MY FAMILY HAS HAD.
WE HAVE LEFT THIS TOWN BECAUSE THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO.
SO IT'S INDISPUTABLE, INDISPUTABLE THAT OUR PUBLIC SPORTS INFRASTRUCTURE IS WORSE THAN REGION.
IT'S ALSO INDISPUTABLE THAT OUR MEDIAN AGE IS LOWEST IN REGION, WHICH MEANS THAT THE DEMAND VERSUS SUPPLY IN OUR AREA MUST BE OFF.
WHICH IS WHY THE REPORTS, I, I DIDN'T SEE THE REPORTS, BUT I KNOW I, I, I I'M RAISING KIDS HERE.
RIGHT? AND SO THIS IS REALLY WHAT IT ALL KIND OF COMES DOWN TO.
IS THIS A PRIORITY FOR US? WE HAVE 20,000 KIDS IN OUR, IN OUR CITY, UH, AND ONE TENNIS COURT.
IS THAT, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? YOU KNOW, AND TENNIS IS JUST WHAT I PLAYED GROWING UP.
BUT I MEAN, I DO, I I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE, HOW IT'S LAID OUT, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE IT A HIGH PRIORITY AS A CITY TO DEVELOP OUT OUR SPORTS FIELD INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE IT IS A, IT WOULD BE WIDELY USED RIGHT? UH, BY LOCALS AND REGIONAL PRODUCING INCOME.
IT ALSO PRODUCED A LOCAL AMENITY WOULD ATTRACT HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT ALL AROUND.
I SEE IT AS A LOT OF GOOD OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT THE $185 MILLION, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S PROPOSED WHEN WE DID OUR FIRST ASSESSMENT ON ROADS, WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? THE 294 MILLION THAT WE WHITTLED IT DOWN TO WAS 400 PLUS INITIALLY.
SO WE MUST OPERATE WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS OF OUR BUDGET AND WHAT WE CAN DO AND PHASING AND MOVING FORWARD.
ALL OF THOSE ARE, ARE PRO, UM, JOURNEYS THAT WE HAVE TO GO ON AS A COUNCIL OR THE OPTION, THE OTHER OPTION IS TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS, IT MIGHT BRING MORE TRAFFIC OR IT MIGHT BE UTILIZED FOR PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T WANT.
AND THEN AS IT'S BEEN SAID, OUR OUR PROBLEM'S GONNA GET WORSE.
IT'S NOT GONNA GET BETTER OVER TIME.
WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH ROAD PROJECTS, PARK PROJECTS, UH, WATER PROJECTS, UH, SENIOR PROJECTS, UH, YOU KNOW, LAKE PROJECTS.
THE ONE BIG HOLE IN THE CENTER FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, AS I SEE IT, IS SPORTS FIELDS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE VOTERS WILL BE THE ONES WHO WILL HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT US TO GO WITH A $30 MILLION FACILITY OR A HUNDRED MILLION OR 185 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
GRAND PARK WAS NOT BUILT AT ALL BY ITSELF, ALL IN ONE TIME.
BUT I THINK WHAT STANTEC IS DOING, AND, AND I HUNLEY AND ALL YOU GUYS
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IS YOU ARE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF SETTING THE PARAMETERS FOR LIKE, WHAT WERE WE ACTUALLY AFTER HERE? UH, AND GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE IT IN IN CHUNKS.WHICH I THINK IS REALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO PURSUE.
AND I THINK THE FEEDBACK ON THE MUCH MORE I IMPORTANCE TOWARDS THE LOCAL USAGE IS, IS SUPER HELPFUL.
I THINK THAT CERTAINLY IMPACTS THE PROJECTIONS, BUT I MEAN, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S UP TO YOU AS A CITY YEAH.
TO MAKE THAT, MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.
AND IT'S UP TO US TO JUST GIVE THE IMPLICATIONS.
SO I I I, I WOULD NOT, I WOULD SAY THIS MM-HMM.
AND HISTOR, AS OF TWO YEARS AGO IS RESTAURANTS.
SO WE'VE STARTED TO MAKE THAT IMPACT ON RESTAURANTS, BUT HOTELS WON'T COME UNLESS WE HAVE FACILITIES LIKE THIS.
AND FACILITIES WON'T BE ABLE TO BE MAXIMIZED UNLESS WE HAVE THE HOTELS AND THE RESTAURANTS.
AND SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO JUST DO IT LIKE THIS AS YOU'RE BUILDING UP.
BUT I THINK, I THINK THIS IS A, SOMETHING I AT LEAST WANT TO GIVE TO THE VOTERS AND LET THEM CONSIDER.
UH, I THINK JUST THE LAST POINT I WANTED TO MAKE IS, AS OPPOSED TO VIEWING A, A PRIVATE ENTITY AS ENTITY AS AN ENEMY, OR SOMEBODY THAT'S TAKING AWAY TIME, I THINK THEY DO DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF BEING THE ONES TO ORGANIZE THOSE LEAGUES FOR THE LOCALS.
AND THEY, THEY KEEP A BETTER STRUCTURE THAN ARGUABLY, THAN THE PUBLIC SECTOR COULD AS MANAGEMENT WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY THEY, THEY TEND TO MAKE GREAT PARTNERS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
RAMIR, IF I JUST MIGHT ADD, AS YOU SAID, YOU TRAVEL WITH YOUR KIDS TO PLAY SOCCER.
I COULD ONLY ASSUME YOU ONLY FILL UP WITH GAS AND KYLE AND YOU ONLY GO TO WHATABURGER AND KYLE, YOU NEVER BUY ANYTHING ELSE.
WELL, IF WE COULD OVERRUN OUR TOWNS RESTAURANTS WITH PEOPLE, UM, I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE OF THAT, BUT EVERY, EVERY TOWN THAT I LOOK AT THAT EVERYONE ELSE LOOKS AT AS BEING THE BEST TOWNS IN, IN THE AREA, HAVE FULL RESTAURANTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOURISM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO MY POINT IS, I THINK YOU'VE PROBABLY SPENT MONEY IN ALL OF THOSE TOWNS WHERE YOU'VE TRAVELED TO PLAY SOCCER.
SO YOU'VE LEFT ECONOMIC IMPACT IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE TOWNS WHERE YOU'VE GONE AND YOU'VE TAKEN YOUR KIDS TO GO YES.
AND STAYED IN HOTELS AND A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS.
SO I GUESS THE OTHER THING IS, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TO THE POINT ABOUT HOTELS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CREATE A FLYWHEEL.
AND THIS IS REALLY A FLYWHEEL.
SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO IT THROUGH SPORTS, YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT BUILD A $65 MILLION INDOOR, 16 COURT BASKETBALL, 32 COURT VOLLEYBALL FOR KYLE.
SO DO YOU GET THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THAT FOR THE LOCAL RESIDENTS AND HAVE SOME OF THE OUTDOOR OR SOME OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE REGION, PEOPLE COME AND PAY FOR THAT ON YOUR BEHALF.
SO IN ESSENCE, YOU ARE LEVERAGING THE OUTDOOR VISITORS ON THE WEEKENDS SO THAT YOUR LOCAL RESIDENTS HAVE A BETTER FACILITY THAN YOU WOULD DO IF YOU WERE JUST GONNA DO A LOCALS ONLY.
THAT'S, TO ME, THAT'S THE TRICK.
THAT'S EXACTLY IT RIGHT THERE.
WE'RE CREATING SOME, IF WE WERE JUST GONNA BUILD IT FOR LOCAL, WE WOULD NOT DO IT LIKE THIS.
NO, YOU WOULD NOT, NOT AT ALL.
AND ALSO THE BENEFIT TO THE LOCALS WOULD NOT BE AS GOOD.
IT WOULD NOT BE ECONOMIC VIABLE THEORY IS THAT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY GETS A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE BY BUILDING A FACILITY THAT THEY ARE SHARING WITH THE REGION, AND YOU'RE SPREADING THOSE EXPENSES ACROSS MORE PEOPLE.
SO, AND THAT DOES CAUSE A FLYWHEEL WITH HOTELS, RESTAURANT, GAS TAX, VENUE TAX, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO HOW, HOW CLOSE BRIAN, WILL THIS PUT US NEAR BONDING CAPACITY? JUST, JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
SO, UH, LATER THIS EVENING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN ITEM ON OUR DEBT, UH, PROGRAM AND, AND DEBT CAPACITY.
SO, UM, THE FINANCE INSTRUCTOR WILL GO THROUGH THAT.
AT THAT TIME YOU'LL SEE ALL THAT.
AND ASSUMING THE WHOLE 180 5, WELL, IT'LL INCLUDE THE 65 MILLION, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ISSUING.
NOBODY'S PROPOSING $185 MILLION BOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, GO AHEAD.
SO FROM THE, UM, PROJECTS THAT YOU PRESENTED TO US TONIGHT, I SEE THAT, I BELIEVE THAT I SAW TWO THAT ARE, UH, PRIVATELY OPERATED.
AND THEN I BELIEVE IT'S THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS CITY OPERATED.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE FAR AWAY FROM PICKING, UH, HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THE OPERATION OF THIS FACILITY.
WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, DEFINITELY NEED TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED THAT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
HOW DOES THAT PROCESS, IF YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW, HOW DOES THE PROCESS WORK IN THE SELECTION AND OPERATION FOR THIS FACILITIES THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES? YEAH, TYPICALLY IT'S THROUGH AN RFP.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE, WE'VE RUN THE PROCESS BEFORE, BUT WE WOULD HELP TO CONSTRUCT AN RFP.
AND THEN THOSE OPERATORS, THOSE THREE TO FOUR GROUPS THAT CAN COMPETE, UM, WOULD PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL AND THEN YOUR ADVISOR WOULD HELP YOU TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE BEST DEAL FOR THE CITY.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE OPERATIONS OF THAT FACILITY.
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AN RFP PROCESS, UM, AMONGST A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT GROUPS.SO FOR EXAMPLE, JUST STICKING WITH WHAT, YOU KNOW, IN WESTFIELD, THEIR LATEST RFP HAD ABOUT 11 RESPONDENTS.
UM, AND THEN THEY ULTIMATELY SELECTED, UM, A GROUP THAT JUST TOOK OVER PRIVATE OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY.
AND ARE THERE ANY CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THOSE OPERATORS? AND THEN WHAT GOES AROUND THE FACILITY? 'CAUSE I'M THINKING ALSO, WHAT TYPE OF HOTELS ARE WE GONNA BE INVITING ON? UM, WHAT TYPE OF RESTAURANTS? UM, SO DO THEY COME, LIKE, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN OPERATORS ARE SELECTED, DO THEY KIND OF HAVE THOSE CONNECTIONS THAT THEY CAN ALSO BRING UP TO THE CITY? AND I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT, 'CAUSE YOU ARE, AS WE GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, YOU ARE, UM, THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE KPIS AND I WANTED TO KNOW, DOES THESE OPERATORS TAKE CARE OF MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE BEING MET? DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T MET FOR OTHER FACILITIES? UM, WELL IT'S TYPICALLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING A MANAGEMENT FEE AND THEN SOMETIMES THERE ARE INCENTIVES INVOLVED.
SO IF THEY DON'T HIT THEIR PERFORMANCE METRICS, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THOSE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES.
THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT HELPS DRIVE THE PERFORMANCE AS THEY'RE MOTIVATED BY DRIVING EITHER PEOPLE THROUGH THE DOOR, CERTAIN METRICS ON, ON REVENUE PERFORMANCE.
AND IF THEY DON'T MEET THOSE, THEN THEIR OVERALL TAKE IS, IS A LOT LESS.
SO, UM, THEY ALWAYS HAVE THAT IN MIND.
TO MY PREVIOUS QUESTIONS, I KNOW I JUST MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THINGS.
DO YOU KNOW IF THE OPERATORS HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS OR ANY PARTICULAR GROUP THAT WILL COME WITH SPECIFIC, UM, TYPE OF HOTELS OR RESTAURANTS THAT THEY INVITE TO JOIN? THEY HAVE RELATIONSHIPS, UM, BUT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE, AGAIN, ANOTHER RFP FOR SOMETHING LIKE A HOTEL TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE BEST DEAL AND AN OPERATOR'S NOT JUST BRINGING ALONG SOMEBODY THAT THEY KNOW.
SO THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO DO ANOTHER RFP FOR A ANOTHER PROPOSED HOTEL.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SO MAYOR, WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS BACK ON THE SIXTH, UH, AUGUST 6TH, UNLESS, UH, THE COUNSEL HAS ANOTHER SPECIFIC DATE, WE'LL TRY TO TAKE SOME OF THIS FEEDBACK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY MODIFICATIONS AND, AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION, UH, AT THAT TIME, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER FEEDBACK.
[6) Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on the results of the police services staffing analysis. ]
IS, UH, AGENDA ITEM SIX.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON THE RESULTS OF THE POLICE SERVICES STAFFING ANALYSIS, CHIEF BARNETT.
AND THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD.
UH, AS YOU MAY RECALL, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET YEAR, CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ENGAGE THE SERVICES FROM A PROFESSIONAL FIRM TO CONDUCT A STAFFING AND OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS.
UH, THE FIRM THAT WAS SELECTED WAS MATRIX CONSULTING GROUP.
THEY HAVE MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND, AND IN FACT HAVE PROVIDED SERVICES TO THE CITY OF KYLE IN THE PAST FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO I WANNA THANK THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER FOR TAKING THAT EFFORT.
THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE US A PLAN TO USE AS A GUIDE FOR THE NEXT, UH, SEVERAL YEARS, MAYBE UP TO 10 YEARS AS WE, AS WE PROGRESS AND GROW AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE MR. RICHARD BRADY, THE PRESIDENT OF MATRIX CONSULTING GROUP, WHO WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE RESULTS OF THEIR ANALYSIS.
THANK YOU CHIEF, AND THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR, UH, INVITING ME HERE TONIGHT.
UH, IN VIEW OF THE, UH, THE LATE HOUR, AND YOU STILL HAVE A LOT OF, UH, OF, UM, AGENDA LEFT TO GO THROUGH.
I WILL GIVE YOU A, AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE CAME UP WITH THIS STUDY, UH, IS KEY RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UH, AS IT RELATES TO CURRENT STAFFING, AS WELL AS PROJECTED STAFFING.
AND TAKE THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, YOU MAY HAVE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO, UM, AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, UH, MATRIX CONSULTING GROUP, WE'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 21 YEARS.
WE PROVIDE A LOT OF SERVICES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UH, BUT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES, BY FAR OUR LARGEST.
WE WORK WITH OVER 400 POLICE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
WE'VE WORKED WITH AUSTIN, WE'VE WORKED WITH BUTTA, WE'VE WORKED WITH SEVERAL AROUND HERE.
WE WORK WITH KYLE, AGAIN, AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED.
UM, OUR APPROACH IS, UH, FACT-BASED.
AND THE APPROACH WE USED IN THIS STUDY WAS FACT-BASED.
AS YOU GO THROUGH OUR, I THINK IT'S 168 PAGE REPORT, THERE'S MANY NUMBERS IN THERE AS THERE ARE WORDS.
AND THAT SHOWS THAT, UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS USED, UH, DATA TO PROVE THAT THERE ARE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH CURRENT OPERATIONS AND USED DATA TO PROVE THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF STAFFING OR OPERATIONS CAN MAKE IT WORK DIFFERENTLY.
BUT WE DID NOT, UM, DO JUST DATA IN ISOLATION.
WE HAD EXTENSIVE INPUT FROM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, MANY INTERVIEWS AND EMPLOYEE SURVEY, BUT
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WE ALSO GOT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.WE HAD TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ONE DURING THE WEEK, WHICH WAS HYBRID IN PERSON AND VIRTUAL, AND ONE ON THE WEEKEND TO GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND THOSE, UH, KINDS OF MECHANISMS WERE USED TO HELP SHAPE THE, UH, RESULTS OF THIS, UH, STUDY.
UH, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WHEN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS STUDY FOR FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, UH, WE'VE INTERACTED CONSISTENTLY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO HERE IS TO, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT WORKLOADS AND SERVICE LEVELS WITHIN THE CITY AND TO COME UP WITH A STAFFING PLAN, BOTH NOW IN THE FUTURE, UH, USING THE METRICS THAT I DESCRIBED BEFORE, BUT NOT JUST DOING THOSE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS IN ISOLATION.
UH, ALSO LOOKING AT EFFICIENCY AND, UM, EFFECTIVENESS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AN EFFECTIVE, UH, BASE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CURRENT STAFFING NEEDS AS WELL AS PROJECTING THEM FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
SO WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS AN EFFECTIVE BASE UPON WHICH TO BUILD A DEPARTMENT IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY AS YOU'RE GONNA BE GROWING OVER THE NEXT, UH, FEW YEARS.
UH, THERE ARE ALSO FACILITY IMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH BE WITH THIS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS SHARING SOME OF THE SPACE WITHIN THERE.
AND AS THE DEPARTMENT GROWS, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A POINT RELATIVELY SOON WHERE THAT'S NOT GONNA BE TENABLE.
SO AGAIN, UH, WE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROJECT.
SO SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS PICKING FROM THE REPORT, UH, WE LOOKED AT CALLS, UH, AND I, I, I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I'M GONNA BE MAKING A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN, UH, WHAT I'M GONNA CALL THE DIRECT SERVICE DELIVERY, MOSTLY PATROL, WHICH ARE SWORN OFFICERS.
UH, THE SERVICE THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, EITHER VISIBLY OR WHEN YOU'RE REQUESTING A SERVICE AND THE SUPPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT.
AND THE ISSUES ARE QUITE DIFFERENT IN THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO FIRST OF ALL, FOR THE DIRECT SERVICE DELIVERY, LOOKING AT THE OPERATIONS BUREAU, MOSTLY PATROL, WE LOOKED AT CALLS FOR SERVICE.
AND THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE TOP 10 KINDS OF CALLS FOR SERVICE.
IN FACT, IT'S 50% OF ALL THE, UH, CALL FOR SERVICE WORKLOAD THAT THEY CAN HANDLE.
UH, IT'S A THIRD OF IT IS TRAFFIC RELATED ACCIDENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
A THIRD OF IT ARE SERVICE KINDS OF THINGS, QUALITY OF LIFE KINDS OF COMPLAINTS, QUASI CODE ENFORCEMENT TYPES OF THINGS.
AND A THIRD OF THEM ARE CRIMES FOR A SUBURBAN COMMUNITY LIKE YOURS.
UM, BASICALLY IT BOILS DOWN TO TWO RE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN TWO REQUESTS FOR SERVICE, UH, EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS BECAUSE I WANTED TO ADDRESS ONE THING IN THE DATA THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD.
UH, OBVIOUSLY, RESPONSE TIMES ARE RARELY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY FOR HIGHER PRIORITY TYPES OF CALLS.
SO WE LOOKED AT THE RESPONSE TIMES TO CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, FOR EVERY TYPE OF PRIORITY THAT THEY RESPOND TO.
AND AS YOU LOOK AT LOWER PRIORITY CALLS ON THIS GRAPH, PRIORITY TWOS AND PRIORITY THREES IN A COMPARATIVE CONTEXT, THESE ARE EXCELLENT, UH, RESULTS TO GET A RESPONSE TO A QUALITY OF LIFE TYPE OF CALL OR SOMETHING THAT MAYBE HAPPENED YESTERDAY IN 11 OR 12 MINUTES IS EXCEPTIONAL.
UH, BUT WHERE THEIR QUESTION MAY ARISE IS THE 9.1 MINUTES AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME TO HIGHER PRIORITY CALLS.
UM, WHAT I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THAT 38% IN THE MIDDLE, UM, AND THE WAY THE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR SHARED NEIGHBORS ARE, ARE CATEGORIZING CALLS RESULTS IN A LOT MORE CALLS BEING HIGH PRIORITY, THAT ARE LIFE THREATENING, THAT ARE IN PROGRESS, TYPES OF CALLS IN MOST COMMUNITIES THAT, UH, STRINGENTLY STRINGENTLY LOOK AT THE CALL, THE NEEDS OF THE CALL AND THE SEVERITY TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WITHIN THAT CALL THAT THAT 38% THAT'S 7,200 CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE MANY THINGS WHICH ARE NOT IN PROGRESS, NOT LIFE THREATENING, NOT FELONY LEVEL TYPES OF THINGS.
AS WE LOOKED AT MORE SERIOUS TYPES OF CALLS, LIKE THE ONES I JUST MENTIONED, ROBBERIES, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, THE RESPONSE TIMES WERE VERY QUICK.
UH, GENERALLY FIVE MINUTES OR LESS, WHICH IS GOOD CONSIDERING THE SIZE OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO THE THING THAT WE DO LOOK AT VERY, UH, SERIOUSLY WHEN WE LOOK AT PATROL IS THEIR ABILITY TO BE PROACTIVE.
EVERYTHING I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT AT THIS UP TO THIS POINT IS LOOKING AT WHAT PATROL DOES FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED FIVE OR 10 MINUTES AGO.
UM, BUT WHERE THEY CAN BE EFFECTIVE IS TO ANTICIPATE PROBLEMS IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING CRIMES, TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO ANTICIPATE PROBLEMS, UH, TO BE DEPLOYED IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE PROBLEMS AND JUST GENERALLY BEING VISIBLE.
THE KEY MEASURE HERE IS PROACTIVITY.
IT'S THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY SPEND WITH, THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THEY'RE NOT WRITING REPORTS, THEY'RE NOT, UH, GOING TO MEETINGS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO IN OUR RESEARCH, IN THE RESEARCH OF, UH, ANY, UH, MANY OTHER, UH, RESEARCH ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING CONSULTING FIRMS, IS THAT IF YOU AREN'T, IF YOU DO NOT HAVE IN YOUR PATROL FORCE SOMETHING LIKE 40 OR 45% OF YOUR TIME TO BE PROACTIVE,
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IT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE VERY PROACTIVE AT ALL BECAUSE IT HAPPENS IN, UH, SHORT INCREMENTS OF TIME.IT HAPPENS AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND IT REALLY ISN'T USABLE.
UH, SO WE SPENT NOT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT WHAT THAT IS.
AND IN KYLE, OSTENSIBLY, YOU MEET THAT MEASURE.
AND KYLE, ON A 24 7 BASIS, YOU'RE PROACTIVE.
YOUR PATROL FORCE IS PROACTIVE ALMOST HALF THE TIME.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS GRAPH HERE, WHICH TAKES, UH, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK IN FOUR HOUR TIME ELEMENTS, UH, UH, BRACKETS YOU CAN, AND THE GREEN BEING WHERE THEY MEET THAT 50% TARGET OR BETTER THAN THAT, UH, ALL OF THOSE HOURS ARE LATE NIGHT, EARLY MORNING KINDS OF HOURS.
AND THAT FROM 10 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO ABOUT SIX O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
WHEN PEOPLE ARE AWAKE NEEDING HELP OR CAUSING PROBLEMS, THERE'S VERY LITTLE PROACTIVE TIME AT ALL.
SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE 10% OF THEIR TIME.
SO THERE'S CLEARLY A DEPLOYMENT ISSUE AND A STAFFING ISSUE IN PATROL THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, THE GOOD NEWS IN THIS, HOWEVER, AND THIS IS A HARD, UH, GRAPH TO READ, IT SHOWS, UH, THEIR PROACTIVE ACTIVITIES IN PATROL THE OFFICER INITIATED ACTIVITIES.
AND IN A HEAT MAP KIND OF WAY, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN IT'S RED, THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY GENERATED WHERE IT'S YELLOW AND GREEN, IT'S LESS.
THIS SHOWS THAT THEY'RE USING WHAT TIME THEY HAVE, INCLUDING FROM 10 O'CLOCK AND SIX O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, WHAT LITTLE TIME THEY HAVE TO GENERATE ACTIVITY.
BUT THIS IS AN UNSUSTAINABLE MODEL.
IT'S AN UNSUSTAINABLE MODEL FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS THEMSELVES.
AND AS YOU CONTINUE TO GROW, THAT TIME WILL GET MORE CROWDED.
SO THE SOLUTION TO THIS IS TO ADD SOME STAFF.
AND THE, I'M GONNA BE THROWING A LOT OF NUMBERS HERE ABOUT ADDING STAFF, UH, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO SWORN PERSONNEL, IT'S MOSTLY, UM, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE STAFF THAT ARE AUTHORIZED.
NOW THAT YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF RECRUITING IN KYLE, AS IN MOST OF THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, THERE'S BEEN A PROBLEM IN ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO, UH, BECOME POLICE OFFICERS AND RETAINING THEM.
UH, THAT PROBLEM EXISTED FROM COVID A LITTLE BIT BEFORE COVID AND UP TILL ABOUT THE LAST YEAR OR SO, IT'S IMPROVING.
IT'S IMPROVING HERE IN KYLE THAT YOU ARE DECREASING THE NUMBER OF VACANT POSITIONS.
SO AS YOU CONTINUE TO REPLACE THOSE VACANT POSITIONS, ANOTHER SEVEN PATROL OFF, UH, POLICE OFFICERS AND TWO CORPORALS NEED TO BE ADDED.
AND AS YOU GET THOSE STAFFING LEVELS HIGHER, UH, MORE TO WHAT THE AUTHORIZED LEVELS ARE, IS TO DEPLOY THEM IN A WAY WHERE YOU'VE GOT A COVER SHIFT AND TO, TO ADDRESS THAT SERVICE DEFICIENCY IN THE LATE MORNING, EARLY AF UH, AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING HOURS.
WHAT THAT DOES IS IT ACHIEVES THAT GRAPHS RIGHT THERE, WHICH SHOWS THAT EVERY, ALMOST EVERY HOUR OF THE DAY MEETS THAT 50%, UH, TARGET, WHICH IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.
UM, UH, THE OPERATIONS BUREAU HAS, UH, OTHER FUNCTIONS AS WELL, TRAFFIC.
AND, UH, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THAT MENTAL HEALTH TEAM FROM THE EXECUTIVE BUREAU TO OPERATIONS WHERE THERE'LL BE SOME SYNERGIES, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, UM, LIKE PROACTIVE TIME IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, UH, THE DESIRABILITY OF HAVING GREATER LEVELS OF TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU INCREASE, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, STAFFING BY ONE OFFICER AND DEPLOY THEM ON 12 HOUR SHIFTS TO GET THEM ON, UM, TO COVER THE CITY BETTER, UH, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK DURING SOME OF THOSE SAME KIND OF ACTIVITY HOURS ON THE MENTAL HEALTH TEAM.
THIS IS A, UH, A PROBLEM THAT MOST POLICE DEPARTMENTS, REGARDLESS OF SIZE, UH, ARE ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW.
YOU, UH, HAVE STARTED THAT PROCESS OF HAVING A COUPLE OF OFFICERS, I THINK ONE FILLED, UH, TO ADDRESS THE SPECIAL NEEDS OF CRISIS AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TYPES OF SITUATIONS, UH, AS WELL AS HOMELESSNESS TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
UH, LONGER TERM, WE RECOMMEND THAT, UH, YOU INCREASE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT TEAM BY ADDING, UH, TWO CIVILIANS TO WORK, UH, MORE FROM A CASE MANAGEMENT KIND OF PERSPECTIVE TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED IN WITH THOSE NEEDS TO BE, UH, HAVING ACCESS TO, UH, MENTAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMS. CAN YOU TELL US THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A, LIKE A SWORN OFFICER WHO WOULD BE IN THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, FIELD VERSUS A CIVILIAN? YEAH.
LIKE WHY, WHY ARE YOU RECOMMENDING CIVILIANS THERE? SURE.
SO, FRANKLY, UH, WHEN YOU'RE A POLICE OFFICER AND YOU RECEIVE AUGMENTED TRAINING, UH, IN MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE AND THE NEEDS OF, UH, PEOPLE IN BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND MENTAL HEALTH KIND OF SITUATIONS, IT'S IN THE ORDER OF 40 TO 80 HOURS OF TRAINING, USUALLY 40 TO GET, UH, CI WHAT'S CALLED CIT TRAINING.
UH, AND YOU MAY GET ADDITIONAL TRAINING BEYOND THAT.
WE, WHEN YOU'VE GOT CIVILIANS, YOU'VE GOT TRAINED PEOPLE IN MENTAL HEALTH.
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SO SOCIAL SERVICES WHO HAVE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF TRAINING, IT'S JUST, YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT A CIVILIAN MENTAL HEALTH EMPLOYEE WOULD BE BETTER TRAINED, MOST LIKELY YOU CAN GET PEOPLE WITH FAR MORE TRAINING AND EXPERTISE IN THAT PARTICULAR FIELD.'CAUSE IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY POLICE RELATED, ALTHOUGH IT CAN BECOME THAT IF IT'S ABSOLUTELY SERIOUS.
SO THE CO RESPONSE MODEL WORKS REALLY WELL.
'CAUSE MANY OF THESE SITUATIONS HAVE A, AN ENFORCEMENT, UH, UH, ELEMENT TO THEM.
HOWEVER, UM, THE SWORN, THE NON-SWORN PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GONNA BE AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE CAN BE MORE FOCUSED ON THE TREATMENT SIDE.
SO ARE THE TWO FTES FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, THOSE ARE SWORN POSITIONS? NO, THEY'RE, WELL, THE TWO THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, THE TWO THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AUTHORIZED RIGHT NOW.
SO YOU'RE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TWO.
YOU'RE RECOMMENDING TO ADD TWO MORE CIVILIANS TO THE TEAM OF TWO FOR A TOTAL FOUR.
'CAUSE THE, THE, THAT NEED IS BASICALLY THAT SAME THING AS THAT HEAT MAP A LATE MORNING THROUGH, UH, EARLY TO MID EVENING IN CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
SO WHAT I'M GONNA START HERE, WHILE THERE'S SOME SWORN PERSONNEL ELEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH, IT'S REALLY ABOUT SUPPORT.
UM, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENTS FOCUS LARGELY ON PATROL, BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT WAS 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, EITHER YOU'RE GONNA NOT FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS TO HELP MAKE A DEPARTMENT MORE ACCOUNTABLE, BETTER TRAINED, MORE SYS, UH, TRANSPARENT TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE POLICE OFFICERS DO IT AS AN ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IN A DEPARTMENT YOUR SIZE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME OF THAT.
BUT A LOT OF WHAT I'M GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE BUILDING OUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO THAT YOU GOT BETTER SUPPORT.
UH, SO WE LOOK FIRST AT INVESTIGATIONS.
THE NUMBER OF DETECTIVES YOU HAVE IS ADEQUATE RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE DID JUST AS, UH, DETAILED, UH, UH, QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS OF DETECTIVE WORKLOAD BASED ON YOUR OWN CASELOADS AS WE DID WITH, UH, PATROL AND, UH, FOR EACH TYPE OF INVESTIGATIVE SPECIALTY.
'CAUSE THOSE WORKLOADS ARE ALL DIFFERENT AND IT WORKS OUT THAT YOU'RE ABOUT RIGHT.
BUT THE SUPPORT IN THAT PART OF THE ORGANIZATION, UH, COULD BE AUGMENTED.
THE FIRST IS THAT YOU'VE GOT A, UH, CIVILIAN ANALYST WHO PRIMARILY, UM, ASSIST DETECTIVES IN SOME OF THE LOWER PRIORITY TYPES OF THINGS, LIKE CHECKS ON VEHICLES, UH, CRIMINAL HISTORY CHECKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THAT THAT HELPS DETECTIVES BECAUSE THEY CAN SPEND THEIR TIME ON, UH, INTERVIEWING SUSPECTS OR WITNESSES AND DOING, UH, EVIDENCE, UH, REVIEWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, YOU COULD USE ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE THEY COULD, UH, HAVE MORE OF THOSE KINDS OF TASKS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM.
UH, SECONDLY, UH, UH, ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH NARCOTICS ARE PERVASIVE THROUGHOUT A REGION.
YOU'VE GOT ONE POSITION THAT'S ON THE, UH, THE REGIONAL TASK FORCE THAT'S RUN BY, UH, SAN MARCOS.
AND YOU COULD USE ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE, UH, THESE PROBLEMS ARE HERE.
AND YOUR ABILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TO, UM, THIS PART OF THE, UH, OPERATIONS IN A REGIONAL BASIS WILL HELP YOU AS WELL.
PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE NEEDS ANOTHER STAFF PERSON AND A SUPERVISOR.
IT'S A MUCH MORE COMPLICATED, UH, LEGALLY, UH, UH, KIND OF FUNCTION THAN THAN EVER.
UH, THE NEED TO, UH, AUDIT PROPERTY, THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT BACKLOGS OF THINGS CHECKING, UH, IN, OR THINGS GOING OUT.
THE NEED TO, UH, GET RID OF, UH, EVIDENCE THAT YOU DON'T NEED ANYMORE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS ARE GREAT.
SO YOU NEED BETTER COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE WEEK TO PROCESS THAT AND, UH, AND DO THOSE OTHER THINGS TO MAKE IT MORE VIABLE.
UM, ALSO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM IN TERMS OF KEEPING POSITIONS FILLED.
IT'S A HIGHLY STRESSFUL JOB AND, UH, LOTS OF TURNOVER.
UM, TWO MORE TELECOMMUNICATE TELECOMMUNICATOR POSITIONS CAN REALLY, UH, HELP DO THAT.
BUT WHAT YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS DEVELOP A BETTER RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION PROGRAM.
WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF SUGGESTIONS IN THE REPORT, UH, THAT HAS SHOWN, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO MAKE IT MORE SUSTAINABLE.
AND IT, UH, TO HELP REDUCE THE STRESS PAY CAN ALSO BE A FACTOR ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AS WELL.
AND LONGER TERM, YOU NEED TO START LOOKING AT A REAL-TIME CRIME CENTER, WHICH IS A WAY OF AUGMENTING INFORMATION TO HELP IN REAL TIME THE RESPONSE OF, UH, DE OF UH, UH, OFFICERS AS WELL AS DETECTIVES FOR SERIOUS CRIMES IN THE RECORDS BUREAU.
THE SIMPLE, UH, ISSUE HERE IS THAT AT CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS, UM, THE MANAGER AND SUPERVISOR ARE DOING A LOT OF LINE WORK AND NOT, UH, PLANNING WORK, INTERFACING WITH OTHER FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, ET CETERA.
ADDING A RECORD SPECIALIST TO ASSIST WITH THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THAT IN ADMINISTRATIVE AND EXECUTIVE SERVICES BUREAU.
UH, SIMILAR KINDS OF ISSUES WITH,
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UH, MANAGEMENT OF SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL.UM, UH, BEING INVOLVED IN, UH, DAY TO, UH, DAY-TO-DAY KINDS OF ACTIVITIES AND THOSE KIND OF FUNCTIONS.
TRAINING NEEDS TO BE AUGMENTED.
WE'VE RECOMMENDED ANOTHER POSITION.
UH, TRAINING IS MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN EVER.
OFFICERS ARE GETTING MORE TRAINING THAN THEY EVER HAVE TODAY.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT, UH, GUNS AND, UH, OPERATIONAL TECHNIQUES.
IT'S ABOUT INTERFACING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S ABOUT BEING AN EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATOR.
AND THAT TAKES TRAINING, UH, OFFICER OF THE CHIEF THREE MAJOR THINGS.
UH, ONE IS YOU REACHED THIS POINT IN YOUR MODEL ON INTERNAL AFFAIRS, WHERE NOT HAVING SOMEBODY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, UH, FOR CONSISTENCY SAKE AND FOR TO HANDLE THE, THE WORKLOAD FOR A GROWING DEPARTMENT, UH, CAN'T WORK.
SO YOU NEED TO GET A DEDICATED POSITION TO DO THAT.
GROWING AREAS OF PUBLIC RELATIONS FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO DEAL WITH IT IN ADVANCE.
UH, THE CRISES WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW IN TERMS OF STORMS, WHICH ARE NOW 12 MONTHS OUT OF THE AIR, HEAT CRISES, COLD CRISES, ET CETERA, UH, NEED STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
'CAUSE YOU CAN'T RELY JUST ON THE COUNTY AND REGIONAL PARTNERS.
YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
SO THAT'S THE CURRENT STAFFING.
PROJECTED STAFFING, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THAT IN A LOT OF DETAIL, BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE MODELED THE DEPARTMENT OF THE FUTURE BASED ON WHERE YOU ARE NOW.
SO IT'S ALL CLEARLY GONNA BE DRIVEN BY DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT HOW CALLS FOR SERVICE AND CRIME ARE GENERATED NOW IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND MODELED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT.
THERE'S SOME UNKNOWNS IN THERE, LIKE A SPORTS COMPLEX AND OTHER THINGS THAT COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON, ON LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS, THIS MODEL THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU DON'T LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, RICHARD BRADY FROM MATRIX CONSULTING GROUP SAID THAT IN 2025, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS MANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN EACH CATEGORY.
NO, THE WORKLOAD'S GONNA GENERATE THAT.
WE'VE GIVEN YOU A MODEL TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CHANGING CONDITIONS AND CHANGING NEEDS AND TO CONVERT THAT INTO STAFFING BASED ON INTEREST RATES OR ECONOMIC CONDITIONS.
IT MAY BE LESS THAN WHAT WE THINK RIGHT NOW, OR IT COULD BE MORE, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, BUT YOU'VE GOT THE MECHANISMS TO, UH, EVALUATE WHAT THE STAFFING NEEDS ARE, UH, IN THE, UH, COMMUNITY BASED ON THIS REPORT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THE RECOMMENDED IN THIS REPORT VERSUS THE AUTHORIZED NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW ON THE SWORN SIDE IS TWO POSITIONS.
IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING I SAID, UH, THAT IS REALLY LOOKING AT, UH, VACANCIES.
BUT IT DOES GROW IN 10 YEARS, UH, TO ABOUT 30 ADDITIONAL POSITIONS COMPARED TO WHAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
BUT IT'S ON THE NON-SWORN SIDE, THE CIVILIAN SIDE, THAT IT IS MOST DRAMATIC, GIVEN THE ISSUES THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
UM, THERE'S A NEED FOR, UH, ANOTHER 11 NON-SWORN CIVILIAN POSITIONS NOW IN A VARIETY OF CAPACITIES, RECORDS, EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, UH, THE SUPPORT FOR INVESTIGATORS, ET CETERA.
BUT THAT GROWS TO A, A TOTAL DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT 28 POSITIONS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, GIVEN YOUR GROWTH, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE SERVICE THEY NEED FROM CIVILIAN POSITIONS, AS WELL AS THE GROWTH IN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED.
THE 13, THAT'S AS FAST AS I CAN TALK.
HOW IS THAT MAJORITY OF THAT CALL TAKERS OR, AND DIS CALL TAKERS DISPATCH, DISPATCH DISPATCHED FROM OUR, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, HOW THAT FITS.
'CAUSE THAT NUMBER WAS BACK BEFORE, I REMEMBER THAT NUMBER BEING THERE FOR A WHILE.
AND IT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN A LARGE CO-LOCATED STRUCTURE THAT HAD A DIFFERENT MODEL THAT REQUIRED A BUNCH OF CALL TAKERS AS OPPOSED TO DISPATCHERS, WHICH THERE WAS A DISTINCTION MADE THERE, I BELIEVE.
AND SO THERE IS, AND THE BIGGER CENTER YOU GET, THE MORE YOU'RE ABLE TO DIS UH, DISTINGUISH THOSE ROLES.
WELL THE REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP IS 'CAUSE OUR MODEL CHANGED, RIGHT? LAST YEAR WE DECIDED TO, I THINK IT WAS LAST YEAR, WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOVE TO SWITCH FROM THE CO-LOCATED DISPATCH CENTER IN, IN, UH, SAN MARCOS TO A HYBRID VERSION OF THAT.
BUT THAT ALLOWS FOR OUR, OUR UNIT TO OPERATE HERE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
AND SO I'M JUST ASKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT 13 NUMBER IS CONSIDERING THE MOVE THAT WE'RE MAKING, NOT FILLING THE FTES AT THE COUNTY.
SO THE LASTLY ARE FACILITY IMPLICATIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT I'VE BEEN SAYING, GIVEN THAT YOU'VE GOT CO-LOCATED FUNCTIONS IN THE POLICE FACILITY RIGHT NOW, AND, UH, WITH THE POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED, IF YOU IMPLEMENTED THOSE, UM, AS I SAID, MANY OF THOSE ARE SUPPORT TYPES OF FUNCTIONS, NOT JUST PEOPLE IN THE FIELD SUPPORT ON THE SWORN SIDE AND THE CIVILIAN SIDE.
SO YOU ARE, UH, OUTTA SPACE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO FOR PURPOSES OF,
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UH, OF HOUSING POLICE ONLY FUNCTIONS.SO IT'S TIME TO START PLANNING ON ALTERNATIVES.
ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BACK TO THE PRESENTER? I HAVE SOME CUSTOMER PARSLEY.
UM, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
ONE OF THEM IS THAT YOU SAID THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PROACTIVE ABOUT 40 TO 50% OF THE TIME.
UM, AND I THINK THAT ACTUALLY IS WHY WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT RESPONSE TIME.
WHEN THERE ARE CALLS BEING MADE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE EVER DECREASE BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE ARE GONNA BE SERVING THE CITY AND KEEPING IT SAFE.
SO WHEN YOU ARE MAKING THIS ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, HOW OFTEN DO YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS STUDY AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT AFFECTING RESPONSE TIMES OR IN THAT WE GET INCREASED, UM, VANDALISM OR AN INCREASED, UH, CRIME IN THE AREA? SURE.
SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE, WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE, THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WE'VE ALSO RECOMMENDED PHYSICIANS IN THE DEPARTMENT WHO WOULD HAVE THE TECHNICAL SKILLS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ANALYSIS SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT IT, UH, AT WHATEVER DETAIL YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR IF YOU WANTED TO.
BUT, BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, YES, YOU'VE GOT EX OVERALL LOTS OF PROACTIVE TIME AND OVERALL EXCELLENT RESPONSE TIMES, THOSE ARE GONNA BE CHALLENGED DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS.
AND THAT'S, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO MONITOR THAT.
SO ARE YOU MAKING A DIFFERENT, WHEN YOU ARE, WHEN YOU'RE TAKING, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TAKING IN CONSIDERATION THAT PROBABLY DURING THE NIGHT WE'RE GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS THAT WE GET DURING THE DAY, RIGHT? AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE OFFICERS THAT ABSOLUTELY WILL BE A LOT EASIER DURING THE DAY WITH LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, CRASHES OR VANDALISM OR WHATEVER IT'S THAT THEY'RE GIVING CALL FOR.
UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEING PROACTIVE, ARE YOU ACCOUNTING THE DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY? SURE.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT ACTUALLY BECAUSE, UM, JUST BECAUSE, UH, LATE AT NIGHT AND EARLY MORNING HOURS, YOU'VE GOT ALL THIS PRO LOTS OF PROACTIVE TIME.
UM, YOU CAN'T JUST TRANSFER THOSE PEOPLE ONTO THE DAYTIME WHEN THE NEED IS GREATER BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE CALLS THAT HAPPEN AND AS YOU MENTIONED, OFTEN MORE SERIOUS TYPES OF CRIMES THAT TAKES, UH, NOT ONLY A RAPID RESPONSE TIME, BUT MULTIPLE OFFICERS TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE.
SO YOU, YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT IT AS LET'S TRY TO SOLVE FOR 40%, UH, CITYWIDE YOU, YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT EXTRA TIME DURING THOSE HOURS BECAUSE OF THE SEVERITY OF MANY CALLS.
YES, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE THE FACT THAT WELL, MAYBE OUR OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE BUSY 80% OF THE TIME AND THAT IS GOING TO BE AFFECTING, UM, CRIME OR RESPONSE TIMES OR ANYTHING FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS NOTED.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I SAW ON YOUR REPORT IS THAT YOU HAVE AS A MEDIUM PRIORITY FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH AND THE OPERATIONS SECTION.
AND IT MAKES ME WONDER, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE HAD UM, MENTAL HEALTH ITEM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, HOW WILL THAT PLAY ALONG WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM? AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT FOR THE CITY OF KYLE.
YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND MEDIAN PRIORITY IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS REPORT IS STILL A HIGH PRIORITY.
UM, WE JUST TENDED TO PUT THESE, THESE SERVICE NEEDS, UH, IN PATROL AND UH, AS A HIGHER PRIORITY THAT, THAT THAT'S ALL.
AND SO THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS LIKE YOU JUST MADE A MENTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO BECAUSE KYLE IS DEVELOPING SO RAPIDLY.
ARE YOU ACCOUNTING ON THINGS LIKE THE SPORTSPLEX? LIKE WE ARE GONNA HAVE PROBABLY GAMES DURING THE WEEKENDS AND MAYBE WE ARE GONNA HAVE DRUNKEN DESKS GETTING OUT OF THE GAME.
AND SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ACCOUNTING FOR THAT AND FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GONNA COME FOR THE CITY? AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE, THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH POSITIONS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO TRAIN IN ORDER TO MAKE THESE ASSESSMENTS THEMSELVES.
THAT MEANS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO LET US KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE NEED.
UH, WELL FIRST, FIRST OF ALL, THE LAST QUESTION FIRST, UM, YOU HAVE TRAINING STAFF.
NOW WE'RE RECOMMENDING ANOTHER TRAINING STAFF BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY AND THE NEED FOR PLANNING TRAINING INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY AND PLANNING, TRAINING, ET CETERA, ON THE PROJECTIONS.
SO, UM, UH, THE SPORTS COMPLEX IS NOT INCORPORATED THIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A PROJECT YET.
UH, BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS, UH, ESTIMATES FROM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ON, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, UH, HOUSE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, UH, AND POPULATION AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH COULD CHANGE.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS
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NEEDS TO BE A LIVING KIND OF PROCESS AND NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SAID IN 2024.SO WHY WOULD YOU RECOMMEND WOULD BE THE TIMELINE FOR THE NEXT TIME WE DO SOME SORT OF STUDY, LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU JUST PRESENTED? OH, WELL, I THINK FOR SOMETHING AS LARGE AS THE, THE SPORTS COMPLEX, YOU CAN HAVE A, A SMALL ELEMENT WITHIN THE, THE FUTURE PLANNING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT COMPLEX ON THE IMPACTS ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO I, AND I'M JUST TALKING DON'T THINK IN GENERAL, NOT JUST THE SPORTS COMPLEX, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE SPORTS COMPLEX AND THEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THIS TYPE OF STUDY IS DONE OFTEN ENOUGH.
WELL YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING A CONSULTANT HOW OFTEN THAT IS DESIRABLE FOR THEM TO DO A STUDY.
OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANNA BE PAYING YOU EVERY YEAR TO DO THIS.
I MEAN, WE, WE WERE HERE SIX YEARS AGO AND THE, THE CITY CHANGED QUITE A BIT.
I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT STUDY SIX YEARS AGO, SEVEN YEARS AGO ACTUALLY.
I'LL JUST BE REAL BRIEF 'CAUSE I KNOW WE STILL GOT A LONG WAY TO GO.
UH, I GUESS THE PRIORITY TIMELINE, WE, IT SHOWS 1.9 0.1 MINUTES.
I THINK LET'S PROBABLY ADD TRAFFIC TO THAT AS WELL FOR THE HIGH PRIORITY CALLS.
UH, LET'S ALSO KEEP IN MIND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE, UH, CALLS FROM LIKE 119, FROM 11:00 PM TO 2:00 PM THE BARS ARE CLOSING.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT HAVE, UH, IT'S A HIGH, HIGH ACTIVE TIME OF THE NIGHT.
SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT AS WELL.
UH, SO THE OTHER THING WOULD BE, BRIAN, I MIGHT WANT TO ASK YOU IS AS WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING OUR OFFICERS IN THE NEXT YEAR, SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THE TERRITORIAL DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE SHOULD START LOOKING AT TO WHERE WE NEED TO START PATROLLING IN OTHER AREAS? LIKE SAY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COUNTY OR SOMEWHERE UP NORTH? YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE CONSIDER AS WELL IF WE'RE GONNA START EXPANDING OUT OUR SERVICE FOR EXPANDING OUR SERVICE FOR OUR POLICE, IT'D BE SOMETHING ON THE RADAR.
AND MAYBE TO ANSWER, UH, ANSWER HER QUESTION, A SUGGESTION WILL BE DOING IT EVERY, UH, THREE TO FIVE YEARS ON THE SURVEY TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON TRACK.
'CAUSE IF WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THE POPULATION AND WE'RE DOING SURVEYS EVERY YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE SURVEYS, IF IT'S FIVE YEARS, MAYBE THAT COULD BE A RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK TYPICALLY FIVE YEARS IS GOOD.
KYLE HAS GROWN SO TREMENDOUSLY.
UH, WE MAY HAVE TO DO IT A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN THAT, BUT I THINK FIVE YEARS IS KIND OF A STANDARD METRIC.
BUT LIKE RICHARD WAS SAYING, WE DO HAVE, UH, THE MODEL SO WE CAN PLUG IN SOME OF THE CALLS.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE, THE DELIVERABLES THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE OUT OF THE REPORT.
JUST QUICK TOO, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY HIGH PRIORITY ONES, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, UM, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR STUDY AND YOU SAID, UM, HOW WE CAN HELP BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE GROWING, UH, WOULD A, WOULD A SUBSTATION BE SOMETHING THAT YOU CONSIDERED OR, OR LOOK BAD IN YOUR STUDY TO HELP WITH THESE RESPONSE TIME CALLS, EMERGENCY CALLS? SO WE, WE LOOKED AT THAT TO A POINT.
RES SUBSTATIONS DON'T HELP WITH RESPONSE TIMES.
WHAT IT DOES HELP WITH UHHUH
IF YOU DECENTRALIZE PEOPLE, THAT'S ONE WAY TO HANDLE A FACILITY ISSUE.
UM, SO THEY, YOU, THEY CAN HELP SOMEONE GO MAKE A REPORT LIKE A DOMESTIC REPORT.
FOR THAT KIND OF THING? RIGHT.
JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT IF YOU DO A SUBSTATION HAS TO HAVE ALL THE CAPABILITIES IS A BIG, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO IT'S A REALLY BIG ADDED COST.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT A SUBSTATION, BUT IT JUST WASN'T AFFORDABLE.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, UH, WE DID LOOK AT AT ONE TIME AND JUST, UH, AFFORDABILITY WAS THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU LOOKED AT OUR AND RESPONSE TIMES.
I KNOW SOMETIMES THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE CITY, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE, THE POPULATION IS, BUT EVERY CITY'S GEARED DIFFERENTLY.
CRIME IS DIFFERENT IN EVERY CITY.
SO I THINK THIS RESPONSE TIME IS A GREAT MODEL ON HOW TO DO THIS.
SO I JUST WANNA COMMEND YOU ON THIS MODEL.
IT REALLY BROUGHT A LOT OF THINGS TO LIFE FOR ME AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT MODEL.
CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? SURE.
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I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE LAST ONE.UM, DID YOU GUYS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE CALLS THAT CHARTER SCHOOLS MAKE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? BECAUSE I KNOW K-C-I-S-D WORKS WITH SROS, HOWEVER, UM, LIKE I WORK FOR A CHARTER SCHOOL AND I SEE KPD ONCE A WEEK IN THERE AND AS WE GROW, I MEAN WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE CHARTER SCHOOLS THAT ARE GONNA BE NEEDING IN, YOU KNOW, NEEDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THOSE SERVICES.
AND ARE YOU ACCOUNTING ON THAT? UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT WE DRILL DOWN TO EVERY TYPE OF CALL IN EVERY LOCATION.
HOWEVER, WE DID LOOK AT THE LOCATIONS OF EVERY CALL AND WE HAVE MAPPED, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE HOTSPOTS FOR LOCATIONS AS WELL AS IN TIME.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE ROADS TO THE TOP, UH, THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT IN THE FUTURE THEY MAY RISE FURTHER.
THAT'S NOT PUBLIC INFORMATION THOUGH, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT FOR JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[7) Receive a report, hold a discussion and provide staff direction on Project Ember.]
IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON PROJECT M IMBER.
UH, THOSE THAT ARE STILL HERE, I THINK YOU MIGHT ENJOY THIS ONE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL VICTORIA VARGAS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, THANK YOU TO, UH, MICHAEL AND AARON FOR BEARING WITH US.
UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, OWNER AND HIS SON HERE JOINING US FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, SO PROJECT EMBER IS HAYES COUNTY BARBECUE, WHICH, UM, MANY OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
MY FAVORITE IN SAN MARCOS,
THEY ARE A, UH, FAMILY OWNED RESTAURANT, UH, MICHAEL AND, UH, ANETTE AND THEIR SON MICHAEL IS HERE AS WELL.
THEY ESTABLISHED IN 2007 IN SAN MARCOS.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN FEATURED AS, UH, TEXAS MONTHLY'S TOP 50 BARBECUE JOINTS SINCE, UH, 2013.
UH, THEY RECENTLY MOVED OUTTA SAN MARCOS BECAUSE THEY SOLD THEIR FACILITY TO, UH, THE HAYES COUNTY FOOD BANK.
UH, BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE PROJECT.
UH, THEY WERE IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING, UM, WHEN THEY FIRST OPENED, AND THEN THEY MOVED TO THIS BUILDING ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD, UH, WHERE MOST OF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
BUT, UH, THEY STARTED OFF IN THIS 1400 SQUARE, SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, AND THEN THEY GREW IT TO THIS 8,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, VENUE THAT ALSO INCLUDED A PATIO AND EVENT SPACE.
UM, BUT AS OF, UH, JUNE 15TH OF THIS, UH, YEAR, THEY CLOSED DOWN BECAUSE THEY SOLD THEIR BUILDING.
SO I'M SO HAPPY THAT, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO E ENCOURAGE THEM TO DEVELOP HERE IN KYLE.
THEY HA THEY'RE LOOKING AT A, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS JUST DOWN HERE, UM, ON OLD HIGHWAY 81, WHERE THE ROAD INTERSECTS WITH THE, UM, FRONTAGE ROAD.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH OF US.
UM, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED CONSTRUCTION MANUFACTURING, AND ITS PREVIOUS USE WAS A TIRE SHOP.
UH, SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP JUST OVER TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM PROJECT TWO STEPS.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL BE A CATALYST TO THE WEST SIDE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS A PROJECT, TWO STEP, UM, KICKING OFF, UH, DEVELOPMENT FOR THE EAST SIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA AS WELL.
UM, THESE ARE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE NOW THAT, UM, MICHAEL IS GOING TO MOVE INTO AND RENOVATE.
UM, THIS IS WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE NOW.
IT, IT NEEDS SOME WORK AND SOME TENDER LOVING CARE THAT MICHAEL IS PREPARED AND HIS FAMILY ARE PREPARED TO PUT INTO THIS PROJECT.
HERE'S LOOKING, UH, HEADING SOUTHBOUND ON THE AXIS ROAD.
SO SOME OF YOU MAY RECOGNIZE THIS, UM, AREA.
UM, AND THE REASON FOR THIS PRESENTATION, UH, WE BELIEVE THIS WILL BE AN ELIMINATE ELIMINATION OF ALIGHTED AREA IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
UH, THE OWNERS ARE PROPOSING TO, UH, MAKE SOME PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL INCLUDE PAVED PARKING, REPLACING THE PERIMETER FENCING, UH, BEARING OF TELECOM LINES, REPLACING OF SOME LIGHT POLES THAT ARE THERE, UH, AND THEN REZONING TO, UH, CCB D TWO, WHICH, UM, FROM CONSTRUCTION MANUFACTURING, THIS IS A MORE DESIRABLE, UH, ZONING THAT WE'VE, UM, IDENTIFIED FOR THEM.
AND HERE'S THE PRO, WELL, JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO ON THE SPECTRUM OF INTENSITY OF USES, CONSTRUCTION MANUFACTURING IS NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST.
SO THAT THEY HAVE THE, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS THE HIGHEST AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT USES THAT COULD BE PUT THERE, INCLUDING, UM, CHEMICAL PLANTS.
UH, CCB D TWO IS ON THE COMPLETE O OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, WHICH IS MORE, IS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR OUR DOWNTOWN, FOR OUR DOWNTOWN.
SO THE CONSTRUCTION MANUFACTURING IS A VESTIGIAL ZONING THAT'S CARRIED FORWARD AND IT'S BEEN KIND OF A LIABILITY FOR THE CITY
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THERE.UM, SO THIS IS THEIR PROPOSED CONCEPT.
SO THESE ARE JUST INSPIRATIONAL PHOTOS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO US BY MICHAEL AND HIS FAMILY.
UM, IT'LL BE A 2000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, BARBECUE RESTAURANT.
THEY, UH, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LARGE PLAY SCAPE AREA FOR CHILDREN, AN OUTDOOR MUSIC STAGE FOR LIVE MUSIC, A WALKUP BAR, AND JUST A UNIQUE DINING EXPERIENCE FOR RESIDENTS.
AND ALSO, UM, THIS IS A DESTINATION RESTAURANT THAT THEY HAVE VISITORS FROM ACTUALLY ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT COME SEEK THEM OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR DESIGNATION AS A TOP 50 BARBECUE JOINT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE THIS FIRST PHASE HAPPENS, UM, THE FAMILY ALSO LOOKS TO, UH, INCLUDE A PHASE TWO IF, UM, IF ALL GOES WELL FOR THEM.
UM, SO YOU COULD SEE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL, UM, UNITS THAT COULD BE ADDED AROUND THERE THAT WILL BRING MORE RETAIL AND JUST A SYNERGY TO THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS SITE DOES COME WITH SOME CHALLENGES.
THERE'S, UH, SOME INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES, UH, THAT ARE REQUIRED, UM, TO BRING, UH, THE SITE TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
SO IT'LL BE FUNCTIONABLE FOR, UM, FOR THE USE.
THERE'S SOME WATERLINE UPGRADES THAT ARE NEEDED, FIRE HYDRANT IMPROVEMENTS, UM, TOTALING OVER $200,000.
THE ELECTRICAL UPGRADES AND UNDERGROUNDING OF THE TELECOM LINES WILL ALSO BE AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE, UM, FOR THE OWNER.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A ONE-TIME, $300,000 GRANT FOR UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE AWARDED TO THE OWNERS AFTER, UM, THEIR BENCHMARKS ARE MET AFTER THE, UH, UTILITIES ARE IN PLACE.
AND THOSE UPGRADES HAVE BEEN MADE.
AND THEN WE'D ALSO LIKE TO PROPOSE A, UH, THE THREE YEAR, UH, RESTAURANT INCENTIVE, UM, 50% PROPERTY TAX REBATES AND 50% SALES TAX REBATES.
UM, SO THE OPTIONS ARE TO, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK THE CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT, UM, AT THE NEXT MEETING, UM, FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN, IN AUGUST, JUST DEPENDING HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THE THREE 80, UH, DRAFTED, UM, WITH THE PROPOSAL OF A MAXIMUM OF $300,000 GRANT FOR UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND THE RESTAURANT INCENTIVE.
UH, YOU CAN ALSO DO ANY VARIATION OF THAT OR NOT MOVE FORWARD, BUT STAFF RECOMMENDS, UM, OPTION ONE, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THEM.
AND ALSO THE OWNERS ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, REAL QUICK.
THAT'S THIS EXCITING NEWS TO HEAR THAT WE, WE, UH, COULD POSSIBLY HAVE AN, A NICE RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN, OF COURSE, SMALL BUSINESS.
UH, WOULD THERE BE, UH, AN AREA TO WHERE, HOW FEASIBLE WOULD YOU BE LOOKING AT, UH, IMPROVING THE PARKING LOT TO INCLUDE THE A DA COMPLIANCE PARKING LOTS FOR, LET'S SAY VEHICLES THAT HAVE VANS AND SO FORTH? WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE WITH THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
NO, COME, COME FORWARD PLEASE.
YEAH, WE'RE WORKING WITH A, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
MY NAME IS MIKE HERNANDEZ, OWNER HAYES COUNTY BARBECUE.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH AN ENGINEER CURRENTLY TO BE ABLE TO DRAW THAT OUT AND OBVIOUSLY MEET THE, UH, A DH COMPLIANT, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING AND ACCESSIBILITY AS WELL FOR THE RESTAURANT.
I KNOW WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANNA COME TO YOUR RESTAURANT, INCLUDING A LOT OF VETERANS THAT WOULD ALSO NEED THAT, THAT ACCESSIBILITY.
THAT WOULD ALSO BE FOR ALSO IMPROVEMENTS IN YOUR RESTROOM AREAS AND SO FORTH ON THAT END.
SO THAT'D BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A HUGE PRIORITY FOR US, UH, THAT IS ON OUR AGENDA AND WILL BE COMPLETED.
JUST LETTING YOU KNOW HOW EXCITED I AM ABOUT THIS.
UH, LOOK, HONESTLY, I REMEMBER, UH, HOW FAR WE'VE COME AS A CITY.
BACK IN THE DAY, IT WASN'T A LOT OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE, THIS WAS THE OLD, UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? CONCRETE, UH, A TANK, UM, FACILITY WHERE THEY USED TO BUILD CONCRETE TANKS EVERY, UH, FOR, FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
BUT, UH, I WORKED THERE SUMMERS AND AFTERNOONS IN THE HEAT, AND IT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE FEW JOBS YOU COULD GET BACK THEN.
I MEAN, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES, BUT WE DID WHAT WE DID.
TO SEE IT GO FROM THAT TO THIS IS REALLY HUGE.
AND I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT VENUE FOR OUR CITY.
UH, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN REAL ARE GONNA GET REALLY BEHIND AND REALLY EXCITED ABOUT.
'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL VENUE.
IT'S, IT'S ON OUR, IT'S LEAVING EXITING KYLE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S AN EMPTY SHELL OF A METAL STRUCTURE.
AND TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD, IT, IT, IT'S REALLY EXCITING.
AND TO SEE THE DOWNTOWN COMING BACK TO LIFE, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE SEEN THAT, ALMOST SINCE I WAS A KID, A TEENAGER AT THE MOST.
UM, IT, IT, I SEE THE DOWNTOWN SLOWLY, YOU KNOW, GET IT BOARDED UP IS
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WHAT I I'LL SAY IT, TO SEE IT COME BACK AND BE VIBRANT TO HAVE FAMILIES.I MEAN, WHEN I PASS BY THE PARK DOWNTOWN AND SEE FAMILIES OUT THERE, IT'S AMAZING.
IT'S ONE OF THE BEST FEELINGS IN THE WORLD.
BUT TO SEE THIS AREA ENHANCED AS WELL, WHEN IT'S KIND OF BEEN AN ICE WAR FOR DECADES, TO SEE IT COME TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A DESTINATION AND SOMETHING OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS WILL TAKE CARE, UH, WILL COME OUT AND VISIT, BUT ALSO EVERYBODY FROM THE REGION AND AROUND THE WORLD TO VISIT THIS.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING KYLE AND, AND THANK YOU FOR REALLY WANTING TO MOVE YOUR BUSINESS HERE.
AND, UM, MY FAMILY AND I ARE ALL ALL EXCITED ABOUT THE, AND MAKING THE MOVE AND, UH, JUST TO STRESS.
WE DON'T JUST WANNA SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST WANNA JUMP INTO AND SAY THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING OUR CITY AND THAT VISION THAT YOU'RE SHARING.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GREAT LOCATION AND, UM, KEEPING THAT INDUSTRIAL FEEL LIKE, UH, COUNCILMAN RIZZO SAID, YOU'RE GONNA ACTIVATE THAT AREA DOWN THERE AND JUST TO SEE IT CHANGED TR UM, DYNAMICALLY.
AND IT'S GONNA COMPLIMENT WHAT YOU HAVE AROUND YOU.
UH, YOU MADE A GREAT CHOICE AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD YOU CHOSE KYLE OR CHOOSING KYLE
WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY SO EXCITED ABOUT BEING, UH, PART OF THE FIBER.
Y'ALL ALREADY STARTED, Y'ALL DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB AS A CITY AS A WHOLE.
UH, IT ATTRACTED US FOR THAT REASON.
UM, WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IS, IS JUST PHENOMENAL.
AND I COMMEND ALL OF Y'ALL FOR WHAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE, AND THANK YOU ALL THE, UH, PIONEERING AND THE WORK Y'ALL DONE TO GET TO THIS POINT.
AND FOR US TO BE EMBEDDED INTO THAT FIBER.
COUNCILOR HARRIS, A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE CLOSED ON THIS PROPERTY ALREADY.
SO YOU'RE WAITING ON OUR ACTION IN CORRECT.
IN ORDER TO MAKE YOUR DECISION TO CLOSE.
SO ONCE YOU'VE CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY, WHAT IS YOUR TIMEFRAME IN STARTING AND FINISHING THE PROJECT? OUR GOAL IS TO, UM, WE HAVE THIS, THIS GORGEOUS FOOD TRAILER THAT WE WANT TO PUT JUST TO START SERVING OUR CUSTOMERS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY A FIVE MONTH PERIOD ACCORDING TO OUR CIVIL ENGINEER.
UH, SO JUST PROVIDING THAT EVERYTHING GOES AS FOLLOWS.
UH, WE ALSO NEED TO, UH, FULFILL CERTAIN THINGS, CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE.
UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY A FIVE MONTHS TIME SPAN NOW.
CAN WE GET IT STARTED IMMEDIATELY? ABSOLUTELY.
OUR GOAL IS TO OPEN IT AND GET IT GOING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UH, MEANWHILE, UM, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE'RE DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO, TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT AND, AND TO DO IT IN A RIGHT TASTEFUL MANNER.
AND, AND TO SEC UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS'S CONCERNS YOU BY LAW ARE REQUIRED AS A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FACILITY TO MEET A DA GUIDELINES.
THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, C UH, C OF O, CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS.
NUMBER ONE IS, SO YOU'RE, BUT YOU ARE ALREADY IN CONTRACT, WHICH MEANS THAT THE, THIS, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY'S ABOUT TO GET REALLY EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE YOU ARE THE, YOU'RE ACCOMPLISHING ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE CRITICAL THINGS FOR US SIMULTANEOUSLY.
UH, AND SO I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE COMMITTED MOVING FORWARDS.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PREP ACTION, TAKE VOTES, IT'S GONNA BE ON THE NEWS, ALL THOSE THINGS.
SO YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE READY TO GO.
WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMITTED.
WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID IS WELCOME AND WHAT WE'D LIKE FOR YOU TO FIND HERE, UH, IS A HOME, UH, ABSOLUTELY, UH, HOME, UH, LOCAL BUSINESS.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE ESTABLISHING SOME OTHER, UH, I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE LIST.
NUMBER ONE IS THE FACT THAT IN EIGHT YEARS WE'VE HAD NO NEW SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND THERE HADN'T BEEN REALLY ANY LONG TIME BEFORE SOME FOLKS COMING IN AND OUTTA RENTED SPACE, UH, BUYING, YOU KNOW, OR COMING IN.
AND SO THAT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING, I THINK FOR THE FOLKS WHO LIVE DOWNTOWN IS, IS TO NOT HAVE VERY MANY OPTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
WE, WE WANT, WE WANT RESTAURANTS DOWNTOWN.
AND SO, NUMBER TWO IS WE WANT SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO THE, THE, THE, WE WANT LOCAL FOLKS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE ABOUT WE'RE NOT JUST COMING HERE TO TAKE FROM THE CITY, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO GIVE BACK WHEN A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER SAYS THAT WE KNOW IT'S TRUE.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO FALL BACK ON YOUR, YOUR REPUTATION MATTERS IN THE COMMUNITY YOU'RE IN.
YOU'RE NOT A FRANCHISED OUT KIND OF THING.
UM, UH, NUMBER, UH, NUMBER THREE, UM, IS THAT WE, WE WANT OUR RESTAURANT INCENTIVES TO CULTIVATE AND, AND BRING ABOUT, UH, BEAUTIFICATION OF OUR DOWNTOWN.
SO BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS,
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UH, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.BUT NUMBER FOUR, THE PARTICULAR SITE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT GOMEZ TIRE, UH, IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY WITHOUT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO STOP IT, TO BECOME ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
AND BY YOU COMING HERE, YOU HELP US TO SET THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THAT SITE AND IT FOR THE LONG, LONG TERM.
SO I JUST, I JUST APPRECIATE ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND NUMBER FIVE, YOU REALLY DO HAVE INCREDIBLY GOOD BARBECUE.
AND NUMBER SIX, YOU'RE NOT COMING FROM A TRAILER DIRECTLY HERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, THESE BARBECUE BUSINESSES, EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE.
UH, AND A LOT OF TIMES WHEN CITIES WANNA FINANCIALLY INCENTIVIZE A BRAND NEW SMALL BUSINESS OR A SMALL BUSINESS THAT MAYBE WAS SUCCEEDING OUT OF A TRAILER BUT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO OPERATE A LARGER FACILITY, THERE'S A LOT MORE RISK, UH, TO CITY.
BUT HAYES COUNTY IS AN ESTABLISHED BRAND THAT HAS ALREADY MADE THE MOVE YES, SIR.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, CONFIDENCE THAT WE HAVE.
SO FOR, FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, UH, AS WELL AS THE IMPROVEMENT TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, I, I CAN'T WAIT TO, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS COME THROUGH.
SO, WELL, WE AS A FAMILY WILL MAKE Y'ALL PROUD.
AS A PROMISE FROM US TO Y'ALL.
AND YOU ALSO SOLD YOUR LAST BUILDING TO THE FOOD BANK, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
SO IT WENT TO AN AMAZING HOME.
AND WHAT IS THIS? AND YOU'RE COMING, HE'S A GOOD GUY.
WELL, AND AND I'LL SAY THIS, WE'VE BEEN, I KNOW THERE'S SAN MARCOS PEOPLE WATCHING.
AND, AND I'LL SAY THIS, YOU KNOW WHO YOU'RE WITH ALL HUMILITY.
UH, THIS IS THE KIND OF BUSINESS THAT Y'ALL ARE FIXING TO EMBRACE.
DURING THE 2015 FLOOD, WE WERE ABLE TO SERVICE ABOUT 2,500 PEOPLE IN WIMBERLEY.
WE WERE ABLE TO GO TO THE STREETS IN SAN MARCOS WHERE THE HARDEST HIT PLACES WERE.
WE WERE TO, WE WERE ABLE TO FEED, UH, VICTIMS. WE WERE ABLE TO HELP THE, THE, UH, ACTUAL, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE VOLUNTEERING THE SAMARITANS PURSE, PEOPLE OF THAT NATURE, CONTRACTORS, WE WERE ABLE TO FEED THEM.
WE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING IN RETURN.
WE JUST KNEW THAT THERE WAS A NEED.
AND WE ANSWERED THE CALL DURING 2020 SNOW BID, THE, THE BIG MONSTER, HEB, WHICH THEY DO A FABULOUS JOB, BY THE WAY, DOING WHAT THEY DO WHEN TIME OF NEED.
THERE WAS THREE DAYS THAT THEIR SYSTEMS WERE DOWN, ALONG WITH OTHER RESTAURANTS.
WE GOT WITH THE, UH, EMERGENCY RESPONSE COORDINATOR.
AND ALL HE TOLD US WAS, OPEN YOUR DOORS.
BECAUSE OF OUR METHOD OF COOKING USING FIREWOOD, WE WERE ABLE TO SERVE FOR FOUR DAYS, CONSECUTIVE 25 TO 3000 PEOPLE A DAY.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY NOT GO CRAZY, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ANYWHERE THAT PEOPLE COULD GO TO GO GET ANY KIND OF GROCERIES.
WE WERE SELLING HOT FOOD, COLD FOOD, ANY FOOD.
WE'RE DONATING FIREWOOD ACTUALLY TO THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE IN NEED.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE GONNA EMBRACE HERE.
AND WE ARE SUPER EXCITED TO COME TO KYLE.
UH, WE, WE SEE THE BENEFIT ALL THE WAY AROUND, NOT JUST FOR US YEAH.
BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF KYLE AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
THAT'S ALL THE OPTIONS YOU WANT.
TO BRING BACK THE THREE 80, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENT THAT INCLUDES A MAXIMUM 300,000 YEAR ONE GRANT FOR UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND A RESTAURANT INCENTIVE FOR 15% PROPERTY AND SALES TAX REBATE FOR THREE YEARS.
MOTION BY MAYOR, SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
MICHAEL, SHOULD WE TAKE A BREAK OR JUST AYE WE'RE GONNA DO EIGHT MINUTE BREAK.
WE'RE GONNA RECONVENE AT 1105.
I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
[VI) Consent Agenda]
CONSENT AGENDA.IS THERE ANY ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE PULLED? I WOULD LIKE TO PULL AGENDA ITEM 13, 13, 11, 15, AND 20.
YOU WANNA JUST ASK 'EM NOW OR YOU WANT VOTE SEPARATE? I CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
UH, WE'LL LOOK AT NUMBER 11 FIRST.
SO WE DIDN'T DO AN RFP BRIAN, BUT THERE IS A SAVINGS ANTICIPATED IF WE USE STANTEC FOR THE, UM, OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN.
SO, UM, IS THAT SAVINGS MORE THAN WHAT WE WOULD'VE MAYBE FOUND FROM OUR RFP? WELL, SO ON R WERE
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WE ON, I'M SORRY.SO ON STANTEC IS, UM, A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE.
SO YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO AN RFP FOR A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THEIR WORK.
IN LOOKING AT THE DESIGN OF THE OUTDOOR AREAS OF THE SPORTSPLEX AND ALL THE INDOOR WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING, WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S A, A TREMENDOUS ADVANTAGE OF USING THE SAME FIRM FOR ALL THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AND ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL WORK RELATED TO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
AND IT'S PART AND PARCEL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO IT'S ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE DONE BY AN ADDITIONAL FIRM OR A SEPARATE FIRM.
AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
AN RFP WOULD NOT BE A BID, IT IS A SIMPLE, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AND A SCOPE OF WORK FOR A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD BE MADE.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU.
SO YOU'RE, THERE'S COST SAVINGS, SAVES TIME, RIGHT.
EFFICIENCY? THEY'RE ALREADY IN, INTO THE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
AND THEN NUMBER 15, YOU TOLD ME JUST TO ASK THE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? YEAH.
UH, NUMBER 15, UM, WHAT IS THIS ONE? OH YEAH, THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
IT'S ACTUALLY A DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
I KNOW THAT, UH, DID RECEIVE A LETTER, SEVERAL LETTERS AND MANY EMAILS FROM ANIMAL, UM, SHELTER ADVOCATES A WHILE BACK STATING THAT, UM, THE STAFF OVER THERE COULD REALLY USE ASSISTANCE WITH THEM, LIKE EVEN CLEANING SERVICES THERE SO THAT THEY HAVE MORE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS, GET THEM ADOPTED, TAKE PHOTOS TO THE MARKETING.
SO WHEN WE CUT THEIR MONEY, UM, IT'S KIND OF DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE, UM, WE NEED TO ASK OURSELVES, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE QUESTIONS, I MEAN, WHAT KIND OF, ARE WE A COMMUNITY THAT REALLY CARES TO TAKE CARE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, ANIMALS OVER THERE? SO I'D LIKE MAYBE THE POST, MAYBE TO BRING THIS ONE BACK, UM, UNTIL WE MAYBE TALK TO THE SHELTER AND SEE IF THEY ADDRESSED ALL THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE.
WELL, WE STAND READY TO PROCEED HOWEVER THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE.
THE STAFF IN THE CITY IS NOT PROPOSING TO CUT FUNDING TO THE SHELTER THAT THEY HAVE PRESENTED US WITH AN INVOICE FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE IS THE FUNDING THAT'S NECESSARY FOR THE COMING YEAR.
AND THIS IS THE INVOICE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PAY BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED TO US.
SO IT'S NOT A, IT DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY KIND OF REDUCTION IN THE SERVICES AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED.
IF THEY NEED ADDITIONAL, UH, RESOURCES OR FUNDING, UM, WE, I'LL CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT THEY NEED TO INDICATE TO US WHAT IT IS THAT THEY, THEY THEY NEED.
AND WHAT FUNDING IS IT THAT THEY NEED FOR THOSE SERVICES.
I, I MEAN, I GET A LOT, THEY'VE NOT DONE THAT TODAY.
I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTAKE NUMBERS GOING UP.
UM, THE PET ADOPTIONS ARE LOW, AND SO I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW DECREASING THE SERVICE MONEY IS GONNA BE HELPFUL.
AGAIN, WE, WE RELY ON THEM TO SEND US THE BILL FOR THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.
AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I THINK LAST YEAR WE, THEY ASKED FOR 274,000.
THIS YEAR, THEY'RE ONLY ASKING FOR 231,000.
SO I, I JUST DON'T, UM, I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THIS NUMBER THAT'S COMING FROM THE SAN MARCUS ANIMAL SHELTER.
MAY I, MAY I SAY SOMETHING? SURE.
DO YOU JUST WANNA BE THROWING MONEY AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER EVEN WHEN THE, THEY DON'T NEED IT BECAUSE THEY ARE BRINGING UP A NUMBER FOR US TO APPROVE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
OH, WE HAVE A NUMBER FROM LAST YEAR.
JUST GIVE THEM MORE MONEY, BUT THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR IT.
I'M PRETTY SURE IF THEY NEED MORE RESOURCES AND THEY NEED MORE THINGS, THEY'LL BE ASKING FOR THOSE THINGS.
MIGUEL, WELL, YOU ARE ASSUMING THAT, WELL, I'M NOT ASSUMING THEY'RE BRINGING THAT NUMBER TO US FOR US TO APPROVE.
WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, I THINK ALL OUR INTAKE NUMBERS, SHELTER NUMBERS, ARE ALL GOING.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT BRINGING GOOD STATISTICS TO US? WELL, WELL, THE STATISTICS DON'T MATCH THE FUNDING LEVEL IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE DON'T TEACH THEM A STATISTICS SO THEY CAN BRING THE NUMBERS, IF YOU DON'T MIND INTERACTING.
I DON'T SEE ANY INVOICE IN THERE.
SO IT'S HARD TO REALLY SAY IF THERE'S NOTHING SAYING SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY HAVE ON THERE, WHAT THE $231,000 IS FOR.
SO IT'S HARD TO SAY, WELL, WHY, WHY ARE WE DECREASING IT? WELL, IF THIS IS THE NUMBER THEY'RE GIVING US, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO SEEN A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN SPENDING THE MONEY ON.
BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T GET THAT EITHER,
SO HOW CAN WE SAY ONE OR THE OTHER IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA SIT IN AN INVOICE? NORMALLY AN INVOICE WOULD SAY WHAT YOUR INSURANCE AND WHAT YOUR WARRANTY AND THE TOTAL COST OF THE DOGS AND THE CATS THEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IF THEY AIN'T SEND US ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHERE DID THEY GET THAT NUMBER AS WELL? IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING BY, THEN THAT'S ALL THE, THAT'S ALL THE INFORMATION
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WE GOT.I'M JUST GOING OFF OF THE LAST YEAR'S NUMBER AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, I, I LIKE TO GO WITH THE INVOICES.
CAN WE LET THE CHIEF TALK, SORRY, CHIEF UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF POLICE FOR THE RECORD, I'LL JUST TRY TO CLARIFY A SMALL POINT THAT I THINK I CAN ADD SOME BENEFICIAL INFORMATION.
SO LAST YEAR WHEN THE ANIMAL SHELTER PROVIDED A COST ESTIMATE, THEY HAD SOME EQUIPMENT, THEY HAD SOME THINGS THEY WERE GONNA UPDATE IN THE FACILITY.
SO THEY HAD A HIGHER COST LAST YEAR THAN THEY'D NEED THIS YEAR.
THEY ALSO BASE CALLS, UM, I'M SORRY, THEY BASE COSTS ON OUR USAGE AS A CITY OF THE SHELTER.
SO OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO RETURN, UH, PETS, I'M GONNA SAY DOGS GENERALLY, BUT DOGS AND CATS TO THEIR RIGHTFUL OWNER BEFORE EVER TAKING THEM TO THE SHELTER.
AND THAT REDUCE OUR OVERALL COST YEAR, YEAR OVER YEAR.
SO THE MORE WORK OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS CAN DO AT GETTING PETS RETURNED IN THE FIELD, RATHER THAN TAKING 'EM TO THE CENTER, ALSO REDUCE OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.
SO THERE'S A, UM, SOME EBB AND FLOW OF THE NUMBERS, DEPENDING ON OUR INTAKE.
AND THEN WHAT OUR ANIMAL SHELTER, I MEAN, OUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS ARE ABLE TO DO PLUS NEEDS TO REPLACE EQUIPMENT, REPLENISH EQUIPMENT, ADD NEW CAGES AND KENNELS, AND THEN STAFFING FOR THE SHELTER.
SO THEY HAVE A MODEL OF WHAT THEY PLAN TO OFFER FOR THE YEAR.
AND THEN WE'RE PAYING OUR PORTION BASED ON WHAT WE ARE TAKING TO THE SHELTER.
SO SOMETIMES THE NUMBERS GO DOWN 'CAUSE OF GREAT WORK FROM ANIMAL CONTROL.
SOMETIMES IT'S ALSO RELATED TO A LESS, A LESSER NEED FOR ADDITIONAL BIG EQUIPMENT.
BIGGER FREEZERS, BIGGER REFRIGERATORS AND THINGS.
WHEN YOU BUY 'EM ONE YEAR, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPLENISH 'EM NEXT YEAR, THEY'RE GONNA LAST YOU FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
SO IT'S, IT'S A COMBINATION OF EFFORTS.
I HOPE THAT HELPS UNDERSTAND WHY IT COULD GO DOWN AND IT NOT BE A BAD THING.
AND IT DOESN'T REALLY DETRIMENT TO, IT'S NOT A DETRIMENT TO SERVICES.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER.
UM, AND I KNEW THAT, THAT THERE'S ROOM TO DO WHAT WHATEVER THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
UM, BUT I JUST, I JUST WASN'T TRYING, I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF WHY THEY DECREASE.
YOU WANNA GO ON NUMBER 20? UH, SO ARE WE BACK TO 20 NOW? YEAH.
SO JUST I WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT.
I COULD, I DON'T KNOW, PEREZ, I ASKED PEREZ EARLIER, THERE'S A NUMBER THAT CANNOT BE CALCULATED JUST LOOKING AT THE, AT THE, UM, TABLE.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF PART OF THE REASON WHY I THOUGHT A WORKSHOP WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR RESIDENTS AND EVEN FOR MYSELF.
SO ALL THIS ITEM IS DOING IS CALLING A PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
THE, THE DOCUMENTS ARE, WE'LL HAVE BRING THE FINAL DOCUMENTS IN AUGUST.
THIS IS JUST TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? BUT IT, IT DOES SAY $75 MILLION TURNS FOUR.
SHARE WITH THE COUNTY, SHARE WITH THE CITY.
SO MY POINT IS ONLY THAT, UM, EVEN FOR, FOR SOMEONE WHO, WHO CAN FOLLOW IT, YOU KNOW, I, I FIND THAT THERE'S A NUMBER MISSING TO GET TO THE ANNUAL CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY GOING INTO THE TURO.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY THERE'S A NEED TO HAVE MORE, MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE, SOME HOW THE, HOW THE SETUP IS MADE UP.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY STEPHANIE'S NOT HERE, SO WE CAN'T ANSWER IT.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF CHRIS, CHRIS WAS GONNA BE ONLINE.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE IS MADE IT TO THIS LATE HOUR HE WAS ILL FROM STEPHANIE'S OFFICE.
WELL, THAT, THAT'S AN ESTIMATE OF THE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE PROJECT AND THE INPUTS FROM THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION AND THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION.
THAT'S WHAT'S PART OF THE DRAFT SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.
BUT AGAINST, UM, AMY POINTED OUT, THOSE FIGURES WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO YOU IN, IN AUGUST.
THIS IS SIMPLY TO CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THEY'RE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
BUT SO WHAT I WAS SAYING IS LIKE THE INCREMENT VALUE, I CAN'T GET TO THE AMOUNT FROM THAT INCRE AMOUNT.
SO THERE'S A MISSING CALCULATION PART.
WE'LL HAVE THAT IN THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME.
THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR MY ITEMS. MOTIONS.
MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE CONSENT AGENDAS ITEMS 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, AND 22ND.
ALRIGHT, MOTION BY MAYOR PROTO, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, EXCEPT FOR ITEM 13.
IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, UH, IS SECOND READING.
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE ADMITTING CHAPTER 53, ZONING IN THE CITY OF CO, UH, CODE OF ORDINANCES TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.89 ACRES OF LAND FROM RETAIL SERVICES.
UH, AND 4.33 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO PUD.
UM, APPROXIMATELY 5.22 ACRES OF, UH, RS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 24, UH, 1 55 AND
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24, 3 21 I 35.UH, THIS ITEM IS, UH, I, I DID NOT VOTE ON IT LAST TIME.
I WAS HAVING CONNECTION ISSUES AND I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO ABSTAIN.
UH, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I CLARIFY THAT I HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THIS AS I CONSULT WITH A GAS STATION COMPANY.
AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I FILL OUT THE AFFIDAVIT AND ABSTAIN.
SO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU GUYS FOR MOTIONS.
SO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT AGAIN? YEAH.
SO ITEM NUMBER 13 SECOND READING, UM, CONSIDER APPROVAL AND ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 53 OF THE ZONING CODE TO THE ORDINANCE TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 0.89 ACRES OF LAND FROM RS RETAIL SERVICES TO AND 4.33 ACRES OF LAND FROM AGRICULTURE TO PUB PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, APPROXIMATELY 5.22 ACRES RS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 24 1 55 AND 24, 3 21 IH 35 IN HAYES COUNTY, TEXAS.
UM, PRESENTERS WILKINSON, DO WE WANT A PRESENTATION? DO WE WANNA TAKE A VOTE? I THINK OUR, OUR INTENT WOULD NOT BE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE'S QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF THE VOTE FOR ME TO I'M, ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY THE MAYOR, UH, PRO TIM.
UH, SECOND BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DR.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.
[21) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance calling a Special Election to be held in the City of Kyle to consider a non-binding proposition, in accordance with Section 6.15 of the City Charter, on whether or not the Mayor and members of City Council should be eligible to receive health insurance benefits on the same terms as full-time City employees. (6 votes required)]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.FIRST READING, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE CALLING SPECIAL ELECTION, UH, TO BE HELD IN THE CITY OF KYLE TO CONSIDER A NON-BINDING PROPOSITION IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 6.15.
THE CITY OF KYLE CHARTER ON WHETHER OR NOT THE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS ON THE SAME TERMS AS FULL CITY TIME EMPLOYEE SIX VOTES REQUIRED.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
AMY ALCO REED CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.
UH, THIS ITEM WAS ON THE LAST AGENDA.
IT WAS BROUGHT BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA ON JULY 2ND.
THE COUNCIL VOTED FOUR TO THREE TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING BACK AN ITEM, UH, PUTTING A NON-BINDING BALLOT PROPOSITION ON THE BALLOT FOR NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
THE NON-BINDING BALLOT PROPOSITIONS ARE AUTHORIZED UNDER SECTION 6.15 OF THE CITY CHARTER.
THEY DO REQUIRE AT LEAST SIX AFFIRMATIVE VOTES FROM COUNCIL IN ORDER TO APPEAR ON THE BALLOT.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT I'VE PUT TOGETHER FOR THE BALLOT.
UM, IT JUST ASKS THE QUESTION AS PLAIN LANGUAGE AS I COULD COME UP WITH WHEN I WAS PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
AND THE OPTIONS ALREADY EITHER APPROVED THE ORDINANCES DRAFTED, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SIX VOTES TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO ADJUST THE LANGUAGE AND THE QUESTION, AND THEN APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED, WHICH WOULD ALSO REQUIRE SIX VOTES OR TO DENY THE ORDINANCE.
COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE SEVEN MEMBERS IF HIGHEST GONE? WE HAVE SIX PRESENT.
SHOULD WE JUST POSTPONE IT? NO.
BUT WE NEED SIX TO TAKE ANY ACTION.
WE, WE HAVE SIX PRESENT TO VOTE COUNCILMAN PER WE'RE ALL HERE.
WOULD, UM, UH, COUNCILOR TOBIAS, WOULD ANYBODY, UH, BE OBJECTIVE IF I JUST ADD A LITTLE LANGUAGE TO NUMBER TWO? UM, SO IT'S BASICALLY WE CAN GO WITH SHOULD ELECTED OFFICIALS, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE HEALTH, DENTAL, AND LIFE INSURANCE BENEFITS AS THE SAME QUALIFIED TERMS AS FULL OR PART-TIME.
EMPLOYEES? JUST AS A NOTE COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR LIFE INSURANCE CURRENTLY.
IT'S, UH, HEALTH, DENTAL, AND VISION.
SO HEALTH, DENTAL, AND VISION INSURANCE BENEFITS ON THE SAME QUALIFIED TERMS AS A FULL OR PART-TIME.
'CAUSE WELL, PART-TIME CAN'T GET 'EM, OBVIOUSLY, SO IT'D BE FULL.
SO IT'D BE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
SO HEALTH, DENTAL, VISION BENEFITS ON THE SAME QUALIFIED TERMS AS FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
'CAUSE IT'S JUST NOT, FOR NOW THIS IS JUST FOR FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO THAT WAY THEY COULD BE CLEAR ON ANY OF THIS, UH, WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY IN DETAIL.
I DON'T HAVE ANY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH PROPOSAL NUMBER TWO TO, UH, APPROVE THE ORDINANCE
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AND AMEND THE LANGUAGE STATING, SHOULD ELECTED OFFICIALS, MAYOR OR MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE HEALTH, DENTAL AND VISION INSURANCE BENEFITS AS THE SAME QUALIFICATION TERMS AS A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBI, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY, THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH THE AMENDMENTS AS STATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER.
TOBIAS, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YES, I DO HAVE A, A COMMENT ON THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE BECAUSE WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ELIGIBLE.
IT'S JUST THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT THE PROPOSITION IS FOR THE CITY OF KYLE OR THE TAXPAYERS TO COVER THAT INSURANCE.
IT'S ON THE SAME TERMS AS FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
AND SO CURRENTLY THAT'S HOW THE CITY, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
MAY I? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, I, I REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT THIS UP.
UM, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY, UH, TO BE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
I, I HAVE NOT DONE A STUDY OR ANYTHING ON, ON, YOU KNOW, VOTING PATTERNS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I, I DID, UM, I HAVE IN THE PAST WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE ENGAGED.
I'VE WORKED WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO CREATE MORE PEOPLE REGISTERED TO VOTE AND TO, UH, BE A PART OF THE PROCESS TO GET MORE REPRESENTATION FOR THE EAST SIDE IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS HOPING TO DO.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALWAYS FELT COMPELLED TO DO, UH, SINCE I'VE BEEN ELECTED.
I, I THINK THAT EAST SIDE REPRESENTATION IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE REALLY NEED WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, I LOOK AT THE, UH, ELECTIONS AND, AND THE POSITIONS HELD HERE RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE GET MORE REPRESENTATION ON THE WEST SIDE THAN WE DO ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW DO WE GET THAT EAST SIDE REPRESENTATION TO EQUAL OUT? AND SOMETIMES I, I, MAYBE I OVERTHINK THINGS.
UH, BUT FOR ME, UM, VOTING FOR THIS INSURANCE WAS TRYING TO GIVE MORE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RUN FOR OFFICES IS WHAT MY GOAL WAS.
I KNEW RIGHT AWAY I WASN'T GONNA TAKE IT.
AND THE REASON WHY IS 'CAUSE I VOTED FOR IT.
UH, I JUST DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE THINKING THAT I WAS VOTING FOR INSURANCE FOR MYSELF.
WHAT I WAS DOING IS VOTING ON INSURANCE AND HOPING THAT I COULD ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND TRY TO GET MORE REPRESENTATION ON THE EAST SIDE WHAT MY GOAL WAS.
AND THAT'S STILL MY, WHAT MY GOAL IS RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS AND GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO RUN.
AND MY, DO I KNOW WHAT THAT PATTERN IS? I I REALLY DON'T.
HONESTLY, I'M, I'M PROBABLY JUST REACHING HERE AND, UH, BUT I'M, I'M GONNA DO MY BEST TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR IT, TO WORK TOWARDS IT AND TO DO ANYTHING I CAN WITHIN OUR BOUNDS TO TRY TO GET MORE PEOPLE, MORE REPRESENTATION FOR EAST SIDE OF KYLE.
UH, BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THE ENTRANCE TO TAKE IT MYSELF.
I, I HAD NO INTEREST IN TAKING IT.
UM, IT WAS ALWAYS, UH, TO GIVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO OTHERS TO, TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY GOAL WAS.
SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL JUST JUMP IN.
AND MY, SO WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP, I, I BROUGHT IT BECAUSE, UM, I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM MANY RESIDENTS AND THEY'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO ME AND TALKING TO ME AND SAYING, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU SPEAK UP? WHY DON'T YOU SAY IT'S WHEN IT'S WHEN YOU DID TO DISAPPROVE IT.
SO I WANTED JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR AND, UM, USE OUR PROCESS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE CHARTER AND, UM, GIVE OR LOOK AT, IS THIS REALLY SOMETHING THAT THE MAJORITY WANTS TO DO? AND IF THEY WANT IT, THEN LET'S DO IT MOVING FORWARD.
FOR COUNCILS WHO RUN, BECOME FULL-TIME.
BUT RIGHT NOW JUST FOR ME IS TO GET DATA FROM THE COMMUNITY AND SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN ADOPT AS A POLICY MOVING FORWARD.
SO IT'S JUST ABOUT COLLECTING THAT DATA FROM PEOPLE THAT WANNA VOTE AND WANT TO LET US KNOW.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO COME UP HERE AND, AND GIVE US THEIR THOUGHT, BUT IT'S THE MAJORITY COMING OR IT'S THE MINORITY COMING, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THE BEST WAY TO GET THAT DATA IS PUT IT, PUT IT OUT THERE WHERE, WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES OR NO.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER SUNGA IS PROPOSING IS NOT REALLY GOING TO MAKE.
I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHETHER THE RESIDENTS DECIDE YES OR NO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AMY, IT'S AN OPINION STILL AT THE END OF THE DAY, COUNCIL VOTES IF THEY DECIDE TO HAVE THE INSURANCE OR NOT.
SO WHAT HE'S PROPOSING I THINK IS GREAT.
LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND GET AN IDEA
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OF WHAT OUR RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE IF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY ELECT SHOULD OR NOT HAVE PAID INSURANCE AS A PART OF SOME SORT OF COMPENSATION.SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
AT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE SITTING AT COUNCIL THAT ARE AMAZING PEOPLE.
AND WHEN WE ALL GOT ELECTED, NONE OF US WERE CONTINUE, WE'RE CONSIDERING WE WERE GONNA HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE.
SO GETTING THE OPINION OF THE RESIDENTS OF KYLE SHOULD MATTER TO ALL OF US.
MAYBE THEY DECIDE THAT THEY DON'T WANT FOR US TO HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE A PART OF OUR COMPENSATION.
AND IF THEY, THAT, IF THAT DETRACTS PEOPLE FROM RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, THEN THAT'S A DECISION THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE MAKING.
SO I, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO GIVE AN OPINION ON WHETHER THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THEY ELECT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT HAVE PAID HEALTH INSURANCE.
SO THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE, UH, BALLOT PROPOSITION WOULD NOT BE BINDING ON CITY COUNCIL.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IT'S NOT BINDING ON CITY COUNCIL AND WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL THE RESIDENTS WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT VOTE WOULD BE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S PROVIDED IN THE CITY CHARTER.
THE PURPOSE OF THESE NON-BINDING PROPOSITIONS IS JUST TO GAUGE THE COMMUNITY.
I, SO IF, IF THEY STILL DON'T EVEN SEE WHAT THE ANSWER IS, I THINK EVEN MORE WE SHOULD BE TAKING IN CONSIDERATION WHAT THEIR OPINION IS.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL VOTE.
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
[22) Consider and possible action to direct city manager and staff to bring RFP/RFQ for realtor services and transactions.]
22, CONSIDERING POSSIBLE ACTION TO DIRECT CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO BRING R-F-P-R-F-Q FOR REALTOR SERVICES AND TRANSACTIONS.UM, BRIAN, YOU MENTIONED A LOT.
SOMETIMES, UH, WHAT WE DO IS WE GET PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO R-F-P-R-F-Q.
SO, UM, JUST, I KNOW THAT WE'RE MOVING FAST.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ACQUIRING, WE'RE SEEING NEW IDEAS, NEW VISIONS.
THEY'RE HAPPENING REALLY FAST.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST HAVE, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OR BROKERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AND HAVE, UM, A, A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO WORK WITH THE CITY.
SO THIS AGENDA ITEMS JUST TO CREATE A POOL THAT WE CAN CHOOSE FROM LOCAL REALTORS, UM, AS WE CONTINUE GROWING AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER PROPERTIES OR OTHER BUILDINGS, WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT OUR REALTOR ON, WE WERE LOOKING AT STRATEGICALLY MOVING FAST.
UM, BUT NOW THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED, UM, SINCE WE'RE WORKING ON A FEW THINGS RIGHT NOW AND MORE ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I BROUGHT THIS FOR.
COUNCILOR HARRIS, I THINK THAT WE VOTED TO BEFORE I WAS ON THE COUNCIL, I THINK, UM, TO HAVE A ROTATING POOL OF REALTORS THAT WE WOULD CHOOSE FROM RATHER THAN ARBITRARILY PICK ONE.
IS THAT RIGHT? NO, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
WE, THE COUNCIL VOTED ON A CONTRACT WITH CHRIS TORY THAT, THAT, UH, VOTE WAS ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.
I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO HAVE SOME OTHER PROJECT THAT YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT, WE COULD LOOK AT POTENTIALLY HAVING SOME OTHER PROCESS FOR THAT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, A REALTOR UNDER CONTRACT FOR ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN PURSUING.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE PROJECTS.
MY, MY ONLY PROBLEM, I I, I THINK WE, WE SHOULD BE, UH, LOOKING AT WHICHEVER PATH IT BRINGS US THE MOST, THE BEST VALUE, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD TO HIRE REALTOR SERVICES WHILE YOU DON'T HAVE PROPERTIES IDENTIFIED.
SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS THERE TO GO THROUGH IS.
JUST WANNA SAY, UH, YEAH, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE GOT UNDER CONTRACTS, UNDER CONTRACTING MOVING FORWARD, WE COULD ALWAYS, UM, START IDENTIFYING OTHERS THAT COULD HELP US.
I MEAN, JUST SO THAT WAY WE'RE, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE JUST USING MONOPOLIZING ONE PERSON THAT WE CAN, WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE, UH, USING MORE THAN ONE REALTOR IN, IN ACQUISITIONS,
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MAYBE A ROTATING POOL OR SOMETHING.IDENTIFY PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT KIND OF WORK IS IMPORTANT.
I MEAN, WE JUST CAN'T GET SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW, UH, THE ACQUISITIONS THAT WE'RE PURCHASING SOMEONE THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS EXPERIENCE IN IT WILL BE KEY AND, UH, MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR IT.
UH, BUT I THINK ON FUTURE PROJECTS, UH, I'M OKAY WITH LOOKING AT OTHER, UH, REALTORS.
IF, IF WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE FIELD THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO DO IT, IT, THIS, THIS IS WHAT THIS IS FOR, TO CREATE A POOL.
UM, I, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD WORK PERHAPS BEST IF WE HAVE AN RFI THAT THEY CAN, IT'S A REQUEST FOR INTEREST RATHER THAN FOR MM-HMM.
AND THAT WAY WE WOULD HAVE A, A POOL OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FOR THE CITY.
UM, AND WE CAN, WE CAN VET THOSE.
I IF, IF I COULD, IF, IF THE, THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL IS TO GO THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS, I'D RECOMMEND A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
AND THIS WOULD BE A LIST OF THEIR PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS OF WHY THEY WOULD BE, UH, WHY THEY COULD BE ENLISTED FOR THOSE SERVICES.
AND THEN FROM THAT, IF WE WANTED TO CALL THAT DOWN TO A LIST OF A FEW THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE FOR A ROTATION LIST THAT'S POSSIBLE, WHAT WOULD THEIR FEE STRUCTURE BE THEN A PROPOSAL THEY COULD SUBMIT PROPOSALS FOR, FOR THEIR FEE STRUCTURE AND HOW THEY WOULD DO THOSE SERVICES.
IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
I, I THINK THE QUESTION'S GOING TO BE FROM THAT REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY IS WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO BUY AND WHAT TYPE OF SALES DO YOU THINK I'M GOING TO GET? AND I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
BECAUSE IT'S JUST TO GET ON A LIST.
I'M AFRAID IT COULD, AND I'M AFRAID FOR THAT REASON IT COULD POTENTIALLY LIMIT THE POOL.
IT DOES TAKE TIME TO PUT THOSE TYPE OF QUALIFICATIONS TOGETHER AND TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS.
UH, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT, BUT I, I DO WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT LIMITATION.
IT'S A, IT'S A NATURAL QUESTION TO BE ASKED, AND I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.
UH, COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILLOR TAB, A QUESTION, BRIAN, IN YOUR, IN YOUR, UH, WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE IN, IN WORKING IN OTHER CITIES, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE NORMAL PROCESS THAT YOUR PAST, UH, EXPERIENCE WOULD'VE BROUGHT TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY, LET'S GET A POOL OF REALTORS.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE A BIG CITY, BUT STILL A SMALL TOWN WHERE WE KNOW A LOT OF REALTORS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FRIENDS WITH THEM.
AND WHO'S TO SAY THAT I CHOOSE MISS BECKY OVER HERE AND THAT MISS BECKY DOESN'T GET ALONG WITH SOMEBODY HERE ON COUNCIL IN THE CITY? AND YOU HAVE THAT AGAIN, KIND CONFLICT OF INTEREST GOING ON.
AND, AND SO FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, WHEN IT COMES TO PURCHASING, UH, LAND OR PROPERTY FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY RECOMMEND? MY RECOMMENDATION IF YOU WENT THROUGH A PROCESS LIKE THAT, WOULD, WOULD BE LOOKED AT A NATIONAL REAL ESTATE FIRM, CBRE, SOMEONE LIKE THAT, LARGE FIRMS THAT HAVE A VERY STRONG COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE PRESENCE.
THERE'S PROS OF THAT THAT YOU HAVE DISTANCE FROM IT.
THEY DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU DON'T KNOW THEM.
THERE'S A APPEARANCE OF SEPARATION THERE IN INDEPENDENCE THAT I THINK IS GOOD.
THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS SOMETIMES THEY DON'T KNOW THE COMMUNITY VERY WELL.
THEIR ABILITY TO INTERACT WITH CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS IS NOT AS STRONG.
BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY, THAT'S THE PUSH AND PULL HERE OF THIS TYPE OF ARGUMENT IS ANY REAL ESTATE AGENT YOU HIRE IN THIS CITY KNOWS SOMEONE AND THEY KNOW YOU, THEY KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND YOU CANNOT ESCAPE THAT OF, OF HAVING THAT KIND OF PROCESS.
SO A NATIONAL REAL ESTATE FIRM, BROKERAGE FIRM, THAT WOULD BE THE WAY I WOULD RECOMMEND IT.
IF YOU GO THROUGH THE RFQ PROCESS, THAT WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD BE LEANING TOWARDS TO ELIMINATE THAT POTENTIAL QUESTION OF INDEPENDENCE.
BUT THAT DOES COME AT A COST ON SOME PROPERTIES.
THOSE NATIONAL FIRMS MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN SMALL SALES.
THEY MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN, IN PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE A MORE PERSONAL TOUCH, THAT WANTED TO SIT DOWN OVER A CUP OF COFFEE AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE, MORE BUSINESS ORIENTED.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE, THE CITY'S INTERESTED IN A CERTAIN PROPERTY, THEN WE'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH RFQ PROCESS, WE'D HAVE TO VET THEM OUT.
NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY IS SOLD.
SO, OR, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU GET THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE WHERE YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER OR YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY AND THEY MAY TRY TO RAISE A PRICE OR GO ABOVE VALUE AND YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.
BUT YEAH, YOU JUST, YOU JUST GET STUCK IN THAT
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SITUATION.AND OF COURSE YOU CAN'T JUST SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE OUR LEGAL PEOPLE DO IT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THEIR PROFESSION TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR SPECIFIC AREAS OF LAND.
SO IT'S, IT, IT GETS TRICKY IN THAT SENSE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? WELL, THE WHATEVER, LIKE A RECOMMENDATION.
WHAT BRIAN'S SAYING IS IF WE HAVE TO GO WITH SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S THE PROS AND CONS WITH THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH.
ABOUT HOW MANY FEES HAVE WE PAID OR, UM, WHAT IS THE ACCUMULATED UNTIL NOW OF THE REAL ESTATE FEES THAT, UM, HAVE BEEN PAID TO THE, UH, REAL ESTATE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN HELPING US UNTIL NOW? SO WHAT I'M THINKING IS, IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE ACQUIRING LAND, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HIRE SOMEBODY THAT IS DOING THESE DEALS FOR US, FOR JUST A SALARY INSTEAD OF COLLECTING ANY SORT OF FEE? IT'S JUST NOT THE WAY THE INDUSTRY WORKS.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT MAKES SENSE TO HIRE AN IN STAFF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A STAFF MEMBER TO DO THIS, THIS TYPE OF WORK.
UM, I THINK YOU NEED TO BE A, A TRAINED REAL ESTATE BROKER.
AND, AND, AND IT'S ALSO, IT COMES AND GOES, UH, WE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FEW PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE PURSUING.
I BELIEVE WE'VE CLOSED ON ONE, TWO, MAYBE TWO, SO NOT MANY.
I'D HAVE TO, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY OF THE, THE TOTAL COMMISSIONS.
WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT FOR YOU.
BUT, UM, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH WORK IN OUR OPINION TO JUSTIFY STAFF MEMBER 365 DAYS A YEAR.
AND THEN, SO IF, IF THAT MAKES NO SENSE, THEN I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD WANNA HAVE SOME SORT OF SET OF QUALIFICATIONS THAT A REAL ESTATE AGENT CAN BRING UP TO US IF THEY WANNA BE A PARTICIPANT ON THAT POLL.
AND THEN, JUST LIKE WE HAVE DONE WITH ENGINEERING FIRMS, JUST HAVE TOP THREE OR FOUR ONES THAT WE LIKE TO WORK WITH AND THEN DO A ROTATION BETWEEN THOSE.
AND AGAIN, I CAN BRING YOU TWO FIRMS, THREE FIRMS, 10 FIRMS. OKAY.
I'M AFRAID YOU'RE GONNA BE RIGHT BACK IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT YOU FIND YOURSELF IN TODAY BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS.
WELL, IF WE DON'T DO THIS WITH ENGINEERING FIRMS, THEN I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO STOP MESSING AROUND AND JUST LET BRIAN HANDLE A COUPLE OF ENGINEER, UH, A COUPLE OF REAL ESTATE FIRMS THAT CAN DO THIS FOR US, AND THEN, UM, GO FROM THERE.
I MEAN, I'M THINKING LONG TERM WITH THE CITY, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE, HOW IS IT SEEN FROM THE OUTSIDE? AND IT'S NOT, NOT SEEN VERY WELL.
IT COULD SHOW A LOT OF FAVORITISM.
SO CREATING A POOL OF OTHER QUALIFIED REALTORS AND JUST DO A REAL RANDOM LIST ROTATION, UM, TO ME MAKES THE MOST FAIREST SENSE.
UM, BUT I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR ALL COUNSEL.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE FAIR, OPEN AND TRANSPARENT MOVING FORWARD.
AND WE'RE DONE WITH THIS BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT DONE GROWING AND WE'RE NOT DONE GETTING NEW IDEAS ALL THE TIME.
THINGS JUST KEEP POPPING UP THAT THIS LOOKS ATTRACTIVE, THIS LOOKS GOOD, THIS LOOKS GOOD.
AND I'M JUST LIKE, OKAY, BUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT INCLUSIVE? WE GOT, WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT HOW IS IT SEEN.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, MAYOR.
THE OTHER SUGGESTION THAT, WELL, THE OTHER IDEA I HAD, DO WE, COULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT, I HATE TO THROW IT ON 'EM, BUT LIKE ANY OF THE BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS COULD BE ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH LIKE THE TOURISM BOARD OR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
I'M JUST BRAINSTORMING BY REAL ESTATE, LIKE TO JUST LIKE, IF, IF THE CITY'S INTERESTED IN SPECIFIC THING, IF A SPECIFIC PROPERTY FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE USE THE BOARD OR JUST SOMEBODY TO HELP US NAVIGATE WHO WE SHOULD USE.
I MEAN, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE'RE BACK IN THE SAME SITUATION AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE, I MEAN, WHO'S TO SAY TWO YEARS FROM NOW I RETIRE AND I GET MY REAL ESTATE LICENSE.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND IT, WE GET INTO THOSE SITUATIONS.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
WELL, IF WE GO ONLY LOCAL REALTORS IN AN RQ PROCESS, I THINK THE ISSUE AMPLIFIES BY 1,000 FOLD.
I DO NOT SAY THIS SOLVES IT, I THINK IT MAKES IT WORSE.
PERSONALLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE GO WITH CBRE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT WE WANTED TO GO.
BUT WE MIGHT NOT BUY THREE PROPERTIES IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OUTSIDE OF THE ONES WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED.
SO IF YOU HAVE SIX REALTORS ON STAFF AND THEN YOU GET ONE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST MORE OF IT.
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LET'S MOTION IT.WE'VE ALREADY MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, DIRECT BRIAN TO, UM, LOOK FOR WHAT IS HIS, UH, NATIONAL FIRM.
CREATE A ROTATING POOL LIST OF REALTOR SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL TRANSACTION SERVICES.
MOTIONS TO GET A NATIONAL, I DON'T THINK YOU SURE YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? I DON'T THINK THAT'S QUITE WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR INITIALLY, BUT I'LL, I'M, I'M MORE FAVORABLE TO THAT THAN THE INITIAL, I MEAN, I THINK GETTING NA, NATIONAL BROKERAGE SERVICES AN EASIER PATH BECAUSE THEY, I'M ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE MOTION.
IS IT A ROTATING LIST OF NATIONAL FIRMS OR A SINGLE NATIONAL FIRM? A NATIONAL FIRM.
AND THEN LET, LET'S LET THEM DEAL WITH IT.
ONE NATIONAL FIRM, DANIELLA SAID ONE.
IS THERE A SECOND? OR, SORRY, I DIDN'T SAY ONE.
I MEAN YOU ARE SAYING ONE, BUT THEN YOUR, YOUR ITEM TALK ABOUT ROTATING.
SO DO WE WANT ONE NATIONAL ONE OR DO WE WANT ROTATING ONES? LIKE, JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU, I UNDERSTAND YOUR MOTION.
WELL THE, THE NATIONAL, DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH DIVERSITY IN THERE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WITH THAT? ARE THEY CHOOSING JUST ONE? IS IT JUST ONE REALTOR THAT WORKS FOR THE NATIONAL FIRM? IT'S A FIRM.
SO THAT WILL PROBABLY BE MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
SO, SO IF YOU PICKED A NATIONAL FIRM, UH, THEY WOULD LIKELY ASSIGN US A, UH, A BROKER THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE MANAGING THE ACCOUNT.
BUT THAT PER PERSON COULD CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME, UH, BASED ON IF THEY MAY COME AND GO FROM THE FIRM, THEY MAY HAVE OTHER NEEDS.
UH, BUT WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE ASSIGNED TO US FROM THE FIRM THAT WOULD MANAGE OUR ACCOUNT.
ACTUALLY, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A MOTION.
SO DO YOU WANNA RESTATE THE MOTION? I'LL CALL FOR A SECOND.
AND STAFF TO BRING BACK A NATIONAL FIRM THAT DOES THESE BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS.
REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS, COMMERCIAL, NATIONAL COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FIRM.
MOTION BY, UH, COUNCILOR ZUNIGA.
SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I, I'M, I'M NOT FOR IT.
I DON'T SEE, SEE HOW TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM LOCAL BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT IT.
BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THAT IS SO SMALL TOWN FRIENDLY.
IF IT WAS THE OPPOSITE WAY, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
SO I KNOW I'M A LOST AT THIS TO I'M, I MEAN, I COUNCILOR HARRIS, GO AHEAD.
WERE YOU, WERE YOU GOING? I GO, GO AHEAD.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR, GO AHEAD.
I REALLY PREFER TO USE LOCAL REALTORS.
THEY NEGOTIATE THEIR FEES WITH US.
UM, AND I JUST PREFER TO DO LOCAL.
I DON'T THINK AT HAVING A, GIVEN BRIAN'S EXCELLENT, UH, DESCRIPTION OF HOW THAT WORKS, HOW THAT WOULD WORK, HOW IT MIGHT BE THREE YEARS BEFORE WE BUY ANOTHER PROPERTY, OR FOUR OR FIVE.
UM, HAVING A LIST IS PROBABLY NOT PARTICULARLY CONDUCIVE.
UM, KNOWING WE KNOW WHO THE COMMERCIAL REALTORS ARE IN THIS CITY, PRETTY MUCH.
UM, SO I, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, YES, WE SHOULD BE PROBABLY ROTATING, IN OTHER WORDS, USING THE SAME REALTOR, BUT THAT SHOULD BE A, AN ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY, WHICH, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK ACTION ON WITH THE VOTE TO HIRE ELITE REALTY ADVISORS FOR THE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES.
WE ALSO TOOK MOTION THAT AFTER THAT WE WOULD GO ONTO A ROTATION OR WOULD CONSIDER OTHER OPTIONS, WHICH THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
WE'RE JUST NOT THERE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
I THINK THE ONLY CONCERN I OF THAT IS, UM, WHAT IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT? FEELINGS HURT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PUT ON THAT ROTATION.
I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW A LOT OF REALTORS IN THIS CITY.
I MEAN, UH, AND MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS, UH, DOES SOMEBODY GET UPSET AND THEN WE ADD MORE AND WE KEEP ADDING TO THE ROTATION? I DON'T, I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I'M, LOOK, I DON'T WANNA MAKE ANYBODY MAD.
THAT'S THE BIG THING ABOUT IT.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT REALTORS THAT I KNOW HERE IN KYLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH.
IS THAT THEIR PROFESSION? IS THAT THEIR EXPERTISE? PROBABLY NOT.
BUT THEY'LL, THEY'LL FEEL BAD 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET PICKED, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW.
THEY'RE USED TO NOT GETTING PICKED
THAT'S GONNA FEEL BAD MORE THAN ANYTHING.
ALRIGHT, AMY, YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT.
WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING, WE ARE GONNA BE TAKING BUSINESSES OUT OF POSSIBLY KYLE RESIDENCE WHEN WE DO THIS.
AND SO THEN YOU'RE NOT BEING, UH, SMALL BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
IF WE DO THIS, IF WE GO WITH A MOTION
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THAT YOU JUST PROPOSED NOW, WOULD EVERYBODY BE OKAY? MAYBE SETTING UP QUALIFICATIONS AND PICKING THE TOP THREE REALTORS, BIGGEST PRODUCERS.HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE THAT DETERMINATION WITHIN, DO YOU WANT COUNSEL TO MAKE THE DECISION ON NARROWING? NO, NO, NO, NO.
WE, WE SET QUALIFICATIONS OR WITH DIRECT STAFF TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE BEST QUALIFICATIONS THAT A REAL ESTATE PERSON SHOULD HAVE IN ORDER TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF KYLE FOR COMMERCIAL DEALS.
BUT I'M NOT AN EXPERT, SO I, I CANNOT MAKE THOSE QUALIFICATIONS.
ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ROLL CALL VOTE? YEAH.
I MEAN, I'M STILL GIMME, GIMME SOME TIME TO PROCESS THIS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, MY THING IS I WANNA KEEP DOLLARS LOCALLY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA MAKE SOME PEOPLE UPSET.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE PEOPLE UPSET.
BUT THE OTHER THING WITH NATIONAL, THERE'S NO, WE NEVER KNOW WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THIS, THIS ISN'T ACTION WE HAVE TO TAKE NOW.
THIS IS JUST BEING BROUGHT FORWARD FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
WE'RE SELLING HOW WE CAN STILL DISCUSS IT RIGHT NOW.
I'M WEIGHING WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE.
'CAUSE DARN IT, WE DO DARN IT IF WE DON'T.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THIS IS, WE REALLY TOUGH BECAUSE, UH, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS THE RIGHT PATH HERE? AND I DON'T KNOW, HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT PATH HERE IS.
I MEAN, I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT YOU, BRIAN, RIGHT NOW.
UM, YOU CAN'T MAKE OUR DECISIONS FOR US.
BUT I'M NOT ASKING HIM TO MAKE DECISIONS.
BUT WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN IN OTHER CITIES THAT WORKED THE BEST NATIONAL COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FIRM? THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET OUTTA THE POLITICAL CONUNDRUM YOU FIND YOURSELVES IN, UH, DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T DO IT.
I CAN COME UP WITH A NUMBER OF CRITERIA.
ALL OF THEM WILL LIKELY BE QUESTIONED.
AND SECOND GUESS, I CAN COME UP WITH SEVERAL THINGS.
I CAN BRING YOU BACK THREE OR FOUR FIRMS, AND I GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU WILL HAVE A, A DIFFICULT CHOICE TO MAKE AT THAT TIME.
WHEN I BRING BACK SEVERAL FIRMS, WHATEVER I HAVE AS THE CUT TO GET IT DOWN TO THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX, THERE'S GONNA BE ANOTHER 10 THAT WANT TO QUESTION WHY THEY ARE ON THAT LIST.
I JUST, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE END IN MIND OF THE PROCESS OF THAT WILL COME BACK TO YOU AND YOU WILL HAVE A DIFFICULT CHOICE.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'LL BE AS CLEAR, PERHAPS AS YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE.
THAT'S MY ONLY CAUTION TO YOU.
THAT'S WHY I'VE DONE, IN THE PAST, I'VE HAD NATIONAL COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FIRMS FOR THIS VERY REASON.
THERE'S DOWNSIDES TO USING 'EM AS, AS NOTED.
BUT AT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR PROPERTY IN MIND IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE QUICKLY.
I THINK THAT'S A FAIR POINT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE PERHAPS UNDER RETAINER IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING REALLY ON THE HORIZON.
I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE VOLUME OF PROPERTIES, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT'S LIKE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER SMALL BUSINESS OF AGENTS AND BROKERS TO GET THAT ONE LITTLE PROPERTY WORKING WITH THE MUNICIPALITY IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN THEN MOVE ON.
AND THEY'VE GOT THAT ON THEIR RESUME AND IT HELPS THEM, IT HELPS THEM IN THE LONG RUN TOO, BECAUSE, AND IF YOU KEEP IT LOCAL, THAT'S FINE, BUT ALLOW OTHER LOCALS TO GET THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
SO, SO I THINK IT, UM, BE MORE PROSPEROUS, YOU KNOW, SPREAD THE WEALTH.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
I MEAN, I THINK IT WHAT YOUR MOTION IS TO GO WITH THE NATIONAL OH, I DIDN'T SAY.
NO, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOUR MOTION'S ON, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS YOUR MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, VOTE MITCHELL.
NO, HE, NO CUSTOMER HEIZER THAT DIDN'T COME THROUGH.
CAN YOU DO IT ONE MORE TIME PLEASE? OKAY.
UH, WHAT, WHAT WAS HIS VOTE? NO.
[23) Consider and possible action to direct city manager and staff to create a public financial workshop on tax rates, municipal bonds, TIRZ etc.]
IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER.CONSIDERABLE POSSIBLE ACTION TO DIRECT CITY MANAGER AND STAFF TO CREATE A PUBLIC FINANCIAL WORKSHOP ON TAX RATES, MUNICIPAL BONDS, TS, ET CETERA.
YEAH, JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS I GET ALL THE TIME FROM RESIDENTS, UH, TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THE TS EXPLAIN TO THEM THE
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BONDS.EXPLAIN TO THEM THEIR TAX RATE FROM THE BONDS AND THE ROADS.
SO I THINK THAT PEOPLE, UH, IF THEY CAN GET MORE INFORMATION FROM US, UM, AND IF WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION BY CREATING MAYBE SOMETHING SIMPLE, A WORKSHOP IN A DAY OR TWO TO HELP EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT WHAT, WHERE IS, WHERE IS THEIR TAX DOLLARS GO? UM, HOW MUCH OF IT IS IMPACTED BY OUR BONDS? I MEAN, MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT A BOND INCREASE DOES TO THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
THEY ALSO DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ONE PART.
THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PARTS THAT COME TOGETHER.
AND SO, UM, AND THEN THAT THERE'S BONDS THAT WE'RE PAYING OFF BONDS THAT ARE COMING LATER.
AND THEN THERE'S, UM, INCREMENTED REVENUE.
SO THERE'S JUST A MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, A LOT OF INFORMATION.
I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH IN A WORKSHOP.
UM, EVEN FOR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
EVEN FOR SEASONED COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, TO EVERYONE SO THAT PEOPLE THAT WANNA GET INVOLVED BE MORE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY KNOW THEY COULD TELL OTHER PEOPLE WHAT EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, THEIR DOLLARS MEAN.
WHAT DOES OUR GENERAL FUND MEAN? SO IT COULD BE GREAT TO INVEST IN A FINANCIAL WORKSHOP, SOME SORT OF TRAINING FORM OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE.
AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT NOW.
IT CAN JUST HAPPEN WHEN THING, WHEN AFTER THINGS SLOW DOWN A BIT.
THEY CAN PROBABLY PICK SOMETHING LIKE THIS UP IN THE, IN THE SLOW SEASON.
'CAUSE WE'RE PARTIALLY THANK YOU.
SO I BELIEVE I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, THAT AFTER THE WATER YES.
MEETING THAT WAS HELD AT CITY HALL, UM, THAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC IDEA TO BRING SOME SORT OF WORKSHOP TO THE COMMUNITY RIGHT BEFORE BUDGET SEASON.
'CAUSE IT WILL MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND.
AND I ALSO THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT REFRESHER FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF TURS.
I KNOW I WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT HAD A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT RS WERE THE TYPE CHURCHES WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
UM, SO I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.
I THINK IT'S A SHORT TIME THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE SOMETHING RIGHT BEFORE WE GO INTO THE BUDGET MEETINGS.
THAT SORT OF GIVES AN EXPLANATION TO THE RESIDENTS ON A LOT OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND WHAT WE CURRENTLY OWN AND BONDS AND ALL OF THAT.
COUNCILOR HARRIS, I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HAVING A VARIETY OF WORKSHOPS FOR THE PUBLIC.
UM, UH, THE ONES WE'VE TRIED TO HOLD AS INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN POORLY ATTENDED, BUT IT'S REALLY GREAT IF WE CAN DO ONES THAT ARE MORE PUBLIC FORUM LIKE WE HAVE HERE.
UM, THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THAT, UM, SUCH AS STAFF INVOLVEMENT, COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT, BUT THOSE CAN BE WORKED THROUGH.
SO IF I, IF I COULD, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNI, I'D LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION.
'CAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE GROUP OF THINGS WE COULD CALL IT.
THE MORE, YOU KNOW,
BUT I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE WATER.
STEPHANIE MAYOR PRO TIM, GO AHEAD.
SO, UH, I JUST WANNA REMIND COUNCIL THAT, UH, STEPHANIE LEVY OR A BOND COUNCIL ACTUALLY DID A PRESENTATION LIKE THAT AND GAVE US A REALLY GREAT, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? WORKSHOP ON T THAT IS STILL ON OUR CITY WEBSITE.
SO BRIAN, IF STAFF COULD GET THAT, UH, TO ERROR MAYBE ON THE, UH, CHANNEL 10 STATION, MAYBE EVEN ON OUR WEBSITE MM-HMM, WOULD BE GREAT.
BECAUSE THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION THAT STEPHANIE GAVE US.
SHE GAVE US A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING WHAT A TURS WAS.
I, I DON'T THINK, UH, I HAD EVER, I THOUGHT I KNEW EVERYTHING I KNEW ABOUT TURS, BUT WHEN SHE GAVE THAT PRESENTATION, I ACTUALLY LEARNED A LOT FROM IT.
SO I THINK THAT PRESENTATION WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT ISSUE ON THE TURS.
AND THEN IF ON THE OTHER ONES, IF Y'ALL WANNA DO SOMETHING, I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
BUT THE TURS ONES ALREADY BEEN DONE.
WELL, I, I, I, I LOVE THIS DISCUSSION.
I LOVE WHAT DR. HARRIS HAD TO SAY AS, AS WELL, I THINK AN ID THE IDEA OF A COMMUNICATION SERIES WHERE WE'RE PICKING OUT TOPICS AND SETTING THOSE UP.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE BIG BLOWOUTS, FOR EXAMPLE.
SOMETHING ON THE WATER COULD BE AT PUBLIC WORKS, YOU KNOW, AND MM-HMM.
BUT, BUT A BUT A SERIES MAKES, MAKES A LOT
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OF SENSE TO ME.UM, I THINK THAT IF YOU TRY TO DO IT TOO MUCH, IT MIGHT BECOME A BURDEN, RIGHT? AND ALSO BE, BE VERY LOWLY ATTENDED.
I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WHEN EVERYBODY'S RILED UP, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE A BIG TOWN HALL HERE IN A FEW DAYS.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE HAVING A, YOU KNOW, WORKSHOP ON A TOUR, YOU MIGHT FIND THAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE STAFF THERE THAN PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO I WANT, THEY NEED TO BE IMPORTANT.
THEY NEED TO BE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE, WHAT DR. HARRIS HAD TO SAY IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO LET STAFF COME UP WITH THEIR OWN PLAN.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM IS JUST THE BASIC PARAMETERS OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR.
I KIND OF LIKE THE IDEA OF FOUR TO SIX MONTH, UH, FOUR TO SIX MEETINGS A YEAR.
SO EITHER QUARTERLY OR MAYBE LIKE EVERY OTHER MONTH.
UH, AND MYSELF, I THINK IF YOU GO TOO FREQUENT, IF, IF THE TOPICS ARE REALLY WELL, MAYBE THEY DON'T CANNIBALIZE, BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT.
WE COULD START WITH TOURISM AND JUST DO IT AGAIN.
BUT IN THE FINANCIAL WORKSHOP THAT IT COVERS A BIT OF BONDS, A BIT OF TAX RATES AND A BIT OF CHARGES.
'CAUSE WELL, THAT CAN BE THE FIRST ONE WE DO.
COULD PEOPLE GET INTIMIDATED BY, BY, BY THE PROFESSIONALS.
AND SOMETIMES BEING NEXT TO ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, YOUR RESIDENCE, THEY, IT'S LESS INFORM, IT'S MORE INFORMAL.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE INTIMIDATED, UH, YOU KNOW, OF THE SUITS.
SO IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE THEY CAN, UM, FEEL LIKE THEY CAN PARTICIPATE AND GET SOMETHING, UH, OUT OF IT.
SO IN, IN LIGHT OF THE TIME, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH DR.
HARRIS'S MOTION? I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY WELL WORD.
DO YOU WANNA READ IT ONE MORE TIME? QUARTERLY.
SO I'M KIND OF QUARTERLY SERIES.
NO, I DIDN'T SAY HE, SHE DIDN'T SPECIFY STAFF WOULD BE THE ONE.
I'M JUST SAYING GIVE THEM SOME PARAMETERS.
THEY DON'T WANNA DO IT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE, BUT IT'S OKAY.
UH, IF WE DON'T DO IT TOO FREQUENTLY, I THINK THAT, THAT WE COULD ALL BENEFIT FROM IT.
YOU WANNA READ IT OUT ONE MORE TIME? UH, TO DIRECT THE, UH, I MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO BRING, AMEND DR.
ZUNIGAS MOTION TO DIRECT THE HONOR.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MOTION YET, DO WE? NO, NO.
SO, TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO BRING FORWARD A PLAN FOR REGULAR COMMUNITY EDUCATION SESSIONS ON A VARIETY OF ISSUES OF IMPORTANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I SUGGESTED A VARIETY OF TOPICS WHICH DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO MOTIONS.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, MEMBER ZUNIGA, WE, UH, APPROVE, UH, THE DIRECTION TO STAFF AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT WE DO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION BY STEPHANIE LIVELY.
WE CAN START AIRING THAT, THAT IT? COOL.
YOU CAN ALSO, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD, UH, YOUTUBE VIDEOS ON TSIS THAT ARE OUT THERE, PROFESSIONAL AS WELL.
BUT MOTION, CARRIE, SIX TO ZERO.
BUT THE, BUT THERE'S AN EXTRA ELEMENT OF LOCAL AND BEING ENGAGED WITH MAYOR.
DON'T FORGET ABOUT MY ABSENCE, PLEASE.
WE HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS. WHAT, ALRIGHT, NEXT UP IS AGENDA.
[24) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the Police Department's proposed budget for Fiscal Year 2024- 2025. ]
NUMBER 24.I'VE BEEN TOLD ONE'S FIVE MINUTES AND ONE'S ONE MINUTE.
JEFF BARNETT, CHIEF OF POLICE.
I'LL BE VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE HOUR AND YOUR REMAINING AGENDA ITEMS. UH, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION.
UH, CAN EVERYBODY, YEAH, I SEE IT THERE.
SO, UH, I'M GONNA MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THIS SLIDE.
NUMBER ONE TELLS YOU ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF THE VARIOUS DIVISIONS THAT, THAT WE SUPPLY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT ONLY UNIFORMED OFFICERS, BUT HAS A VARIETY OF DIVISIONS, INCLUDING ANIMAL CONTROL, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, 9 1 1, DISPATCH RECORDS, TRAFFIC, PATROL, OPERATIONS, AND CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE THIS BUDGET WALK THROUGH, UH, THIS SLIDE HERE.
AND I WANNA THANK MY, MY STAFF AND I WANNA THANK THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT FOR HELPING US PUT THIS TOGETHER.
THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT LINES ON THIS, UH, AND I'LL CERTAINLY STOP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR GO SLOWER, BUT THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT LINES ARE THE TOTAL BUDGET THAT YOU SEE AS WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THE 2324 CURRENT BUDGET YEAR TO THE 24 25 PROPOSED BUDGET THAT I HAVE.
IT TAKES US FROM JUST SHY OF 18 MILLION TO, UH, JUST BARELY OVER 21 MILLION.
THE TWO MAIN FACTORS IN THAT ARE THE ITEMS THAT YOU HEARD BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FROM THE MATRIX STUDY AND OUR CIVIL SERVICE, CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS FOR THE STEP INCREASES, AND THEN THE OPERATIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE MAIN DRIVERS OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET PRESENTATION.
YOU, UM, I'M ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S THE MATRIX STAFFING ANALYSIS THAT'S DRIVING US AND WE'RE CERTAINLY, UH, WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER FOR PERHAPS A MULTI-YEAR, UM, MULTI-PHASED APPROACH.
'CAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A LOT OF ASK.
THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS THE FACT THAT WE NOTICE THAT WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS ON DUTY AND ON PATROL, MUCH LIKE YOU HEARD FROM MATRIX, WHEN THEY HAVE TIME TO INTERVENE IN CRIME TO SEE CRIME AND PREVENT THAT CRIME, THAT OUR CRIME RATE ACTUALLY GOES DOWN.
SO A LOT OF THIS IS BASED ON WHAT MATRIX TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, AND OUR BUDGET
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SHOWS WHAT THEY TOLD YOU EARLIER ACTUALLY REDUCES CRIME.SO WE TRY TO FOLLOW THAT MODEL TO, UH, ENHANCE OUR CRIME PREVENTION.
UH, YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE AN ASK FOR A, A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF CIVILIAN STAFF THAT WE'RE OUTLINED IN THE MATRIX STUDY.
UH, EACH ONE OF THOSE WERE HIGHLIGHTED TO YOU.
I WON'T, UH, TAKE THE TIME UNLESS THERE'S ONE YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT.
UM, ALL OF THESE WERE DISCUSSED FROM THE, UH, MATRIX STUDY EARLIER THIS EVENING.
SO EVERYTHING WE'RE ASKING FOR IS IN LINE WITH THAT.
I'LL POINT OUT THE ONE CONSIDERATION THAT WE'VE ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO ALLOW US TO BRING FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND, OR A SCOPE OUTSIDE OF THAT.
UM, IF YOU LOOK ON, OH, LEMME TRY TO FIND IT FOR YOU HERE.
NO, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, AND ACTUALLY WHAT I, ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT FOR YOU IS YOU SEE DOWN HERE ON ABOUT, UH, NUMBER FOUR THERE, IT SAYS TWO POLICE SERVICE SPECIALISTS.
THIS IS ONE THING THAT WAS NOT HIGHLIGHTED IN THE POLICE STUDY, BUT I THINK IT'S A GROWING TREND AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE.
THESE ARE NON-SWORN CIVILIANS THAT WOULD TAKE NON-EMERGENT POLICE REPORTS WHERE THERE'S NOT A THREAT TO SAFETY FOR THEM TO TAKE THAT REPORT.
AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE LOBBY WALK-INS.
WHEN A CITIZEN COMES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REPORT THAT THEIR ITEM WAS STOLEN FROM THEIR PROPERTY TWO OR THREE DAYS AGO, OR THAT THEIR CREDIT CARD WAS USED IN CALIFORNIA AND THEY NEED A FRAUD REPORT.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE AN ARMED POLICE OFFICER TO TAKE THAT REPORT.
THEY'RE SIMPLY PROCESSING AND INTAKING REPORTS.
UH, WE HAVE A PROPOSAL TO CONSIDER DOING, UH, SOME NON-SWORN REPORT TAKERS FOR THAT MATTER.
WE ALSO NOW OFFER ONLINE REPORTING TO CITIZENS.
BUT THAT REPORT IS NOT A COMPLETE REPORT.
THEY'RE STILL STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE TO TOUCH THAT AND MAKE THAT FIT INTO THE POLICE REPORTING MODULE.
THESE CIVILIANS WOULD TAKE, MAKE, TAKE THOSE CIVILIAN BASED REPORTS AND TURN 'EM INTO A FULL POLICE REPORT MOVING FORWARD.
I WANNA SHOW YOU, AT THE VERY BOTTOM, YOU SEE THE TWO REALTIME CRIME CENTER ANALYSTS THAT COMES FROM SEVERAL YEARS WORTH OF RESEARCH BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION FROM YEARS AGO TO USE TECHNOLOGY TO WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER.
YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, ONE OF OUR ITEMS TO ASK FOR IS THE FUCHSIA CENTER.
THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER ANALYSTS ARE THE ONES THAT RUN THAT.
SO THAT'S WHO WOULD MOVE THAT FORWARD.
UH, NOTHING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE THAT WASN'T ALREADY DISCUSSED IN YOUR MATRIX STUDY, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF I ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? YEAH, JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, UM, GOING BACK TO THOSE, UH, TWO NON-SWORN OFFICERS TAKE REPORTS.
LOOK, UH, I, I SEE OTHER CITIES STRUGGLING WITH THAT.
UM, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE THAT, UH, POST ABOUT SOMEBODY NOT SHOWING UP TO TAKE A REPORT FOR TWO, THREE HOURS.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE WAIT SIX HOURS.
ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING HEARD, THEY GET THEIR CASE IN FRONT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICERS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE, UH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
UH, HONESTLY, I THINK THAT'S AWESOME.
PEOPLE, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONLINE CAPABILITY, BUT YES, IS THAT REPORT ALWAYS ACCURATE AND PER AND HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION IN IT, RIGHT? AND WHAT THEY HAVE SOMEONE TO COME OUT AND WORK WITH THOSE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO GIVE 'EM A CALL BACK OR AN EMAIL BACK IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
SO, AND THIS IS NOT TAKING AN OFFICER OFF THE STREET EITHER, RIGHT? SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THE REST OF THE POSITIONS ARE THE SWORN THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT TONIGHT.
IT'S SOME RESTRUCTURING OF OUR EXISTING POSITIONS.
AND THEN YOU HEARD EARLIER THAT IT ONLY REQUIRES TWO MORE ADDITIONAL SWORN STAFF MEMBERS TO MEET THAT MATRIX GOAL.
AND THEN WE'LL REORGANIZE ACCORDING TO THE PLAN AND, AND MAKE THAT COME TO FRUITION.
YOU ALSO SEE SOME EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE STUDY AS WELL.
THEY OFFERED THAT FOR THE GROWTH AND FUTURE PLANNING, UH, OF THAT ORGANIZATION.
THE HARDWARE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
I'LL JUST POINT OUT THE MAJOR, UH, ONES I THINK THAT ARE SUPER IMPORTANT.
THE FUSIA SOFTWARE, THAT'S THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER OPERATIONAL SOFTWARE.
THAT SOFTWARE IS AMAZING AND OFFERS US, UH, THE LATEST TECHNOLOGY.
IT DOES A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT HELP US WORK MORE EFFICIENTLY AND BETTER.
HE MENTIONED THAT THAT CENTER GIVES REAL TIME INFORMATION TO RESPONDING OFFICERS ABOUT SAFETY NEEDS, WANTED PERSONS AND SUCH.
UM, THE REST, UH, WE, WE'VE GOT AN ATTACK BAGS HERE OR ACTIVE ATTACK, MASS CASUALTY BAGS.
THOSE ARE FIRST RESPONDER MEDICAL KITS FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
THE AGGRAVATED ROBBERY THAT HAPPENED IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, 10 DAYS AGO OR SO, OUR OFFICERS ARRIVED FIRST ON THAT SCENE AND THEY OFFERED, UH, MEDICAL ASSISTANCE TO THAT VICTIM, A GUNSHOT VICTIM AND USED EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE GIVEN THEM.
BUT WE NEED TO GET MORE SO THAT THEY HAVE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT.
WE'RE THE FIRST ARRIVERS ON MOST MASS INJURIES AND WE'RE TRYING TO OUT EQUIP THEM, UM, DEDICATED VEST LINE AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
THAT'S TO REPLACE OUR POLICE OFFICER VESTS THAT ARE EXPIRING.
THOSE ARE GOOD FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
AND WE HAVE A NUMBER, OUR GROWING STAFF.
NOW WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THOSE THAT ARE EXPIRING.
NEXT, UH, SLIDE IS ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW I'M TRYING TO MOVE QUICKLY.
WHEN WE ALREADY GOT A BIG YES SIR, THE GOOD START.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA ADD ANYTHING HERE TO THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
NEXT SUBJECT, AGENDA, ITEM 25,
[25) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on the City's current and 5-year forecast of bond debt obligations for fiscal years 2024-2025 through 2028-2029.]
RECEIVE A REPORT HOLDS DISCUSSION FRAUD STAFF DIRECTION ON THE CITY'S CURRENT FIVE YEAR FORECAST OF BOND DEBT OBLIGATIONS FOR FISCAL YEARS 24 25 THROUGH 28 29.SO MAYOR, MAYOR PROM COUNCIL MEMBERS,
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UH, FOR THE RECORD, I'M PERS MOHI CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.UH, WE'LL DO IT IN LESS THAN NINE MINUTES.
I WAS TOLD ONE NOT BY YOU THOUGH.
SO WE'LL GO VERY QUICKLY ON OUR CURRENT DEBT POSITION.
WE'LL TOUCH ON THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST.
WE'LL COMPARE OUR CURRENT DEBT PER CAPITA AND OUR FUTURE AND NEXT STEPS.
SO THIS FISCAL YEAR, THIS IS OUR CURRENT DEBT OBLIGATIONS.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE RA DEBT PIT BONDS OR GBRA, UH, DEBT.
SO WHILE THIS INFORMATION IS GONNA BE VERY RIVETING AND INFORMATIONAL, I DO WANNA CAUTION YOU THAT THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO PRESENT THIS INFORMATION OTHER THAN IN ROWS AND COLUMNS.
SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF NUMBERS, BUT I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE BOTTOM LINE.
SO THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE STARTED OUT OUR CURRENT DEBT OBLIGATION OF 159,745,000.
IF WE KEEP THIS DEBT TO MATURITY, WE WILL PAY $77 MILLION IN INTEREST FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 236,828,000.
SO DOES THAT NUMBER INCLUDE THE DFE THAT WE JUST VOTED? THE DFE THAT COUNCIL VOTED WILL BE HAPPENING NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE IMPACT OF THAT IN, IN A FEW SLIDES.
THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT, THIS FI FISCAL YEAR THAT IS DUE ON THE DEBT WE OWE IS $8.9 MILLION IN PRINCIPLE AND ANOTHER 8 MILLION IN INTEREST FOR A TOTAL SUM OF $17 MILLION.
AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ARAWA OR PIT BONDS REAL QUICK, OUR PROPERTY TAX RATES, AS YOU WELL KNOW, HAS TWO COMPONENTS, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION AND INTEREST IN SINKING RATE.
INTEREST IN S SINKING RATE IS WHAT PAYS THE DEBT SERVICE FOR GENERAL FUND DEBT THAT'S SUPPORTED BY TAX RATES.
HERE'S OUR PROPERTY TAX RATE, UH, GRAPH THAT WE SHOWED.
AND THE LAST BAR IS FOR CURRENT YEAR, WHICH IS 46 93.
SO CURRENT DEBT PER CAPITA AS A FISCAL YEAR THAT WE STARTED, THIS IS COMPARISON OF ALL 10 CITIES, PEER CITIES THAT WE LOOK AT AND CO COMPARE OURSELVES TO.
KYLE IS IN THAT ORANGE THIRD POSITION FROM THE LEFT OF $2,700 PER CAPITA.
NOW WE HAD OUR, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR DO THIS SLIDE FOR US.
THIS SHOWS NET DEBT PER CAPITA, MEANING IT ONLY SHOWS THAT DEBT THAT IS SUPPORTED BY PROPERTY TAX AND THEY EXCLUDE ANY DEBT THAT IS SUPPORTED BY ENTERPRISE FUNDS OR UTILITIES.
COMPARISON OF DEBT AS A PERCENTAGE OF ASSESSED VALUATION.
THIS IS A VERY KEY IMPORTANT METRIC THAT THE BOND HOLDERS, FUTURE INVESTORS, RATING AGENCIES, THEY ALL, THEY ALL UTILIZE.
AND THAT BASICALLY GIVES THEM THE ASSURANCE, THE QUALITY OF BONDS BEING ISSUED.
WHAT IS THE REPAYMENT, DEBT REPAYMENT RISK OR DEFAULT RISK.
AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT COMMUNITY'S ASSESSED VALUATION CAN BE TAXED.
AND THAT GRAPH RIGHT THERE JUST SURPRISING THAT I REALLY THOUGHT AUSTIN WOULD BE THE HIGHEST TO SEE PFLUGERVILLE AND BUDDA TWO OF THE HIGHEST.
WELL, I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO SAY THESE, THESE NUMBERS CHANGE EVERY SINGLE YEAR 'CAUSE THERE'S NEW DEBT ISSUED.
SO WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS BUDDA AND PFLUGERVILLE JUST ISSUED DEBT RECENTLY, WHEREAS OTHER ENTITIES MAYBE ARE PREPPING FOR DEBT.
I'M AFRAID TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT SLIDE IS THOUGH.
SO PEREZ, UH, DOESN'T, THE HIGHER THE RATIO NUMBER, UH, INDICATE THAT YOU HAVE A HIGHER, YOUR, YOUR ASSETS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PAY OFF THE DEBT.
SO THAT'S HOW THEY USE IT AS A INDICATOR FOR THE BOND RATINGS.
RIGHT? SO THE LOWER THE PERCENTAGE, THE BETTER.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT PFLUGERVILLE, THEY'RE AT 7.254%.
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BUTTA IS 5.99, ALMOST 6%.I, I WOULD JUST SAY IT IS ALSO A WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS AS A MEASURE OF AFFORDABILITY.
AND IT'S ALSO THE LIFECYCLE OF CITIES.
SO AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, IF, IF BUTER OR PFLUGERVILLE JUST RECENTLY ISSUED DEBT, THEY'RE GROWING CITIES, THEY'VE GOT CAPITAL NEEDS, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, BUT AS THEY MATURE, THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS DECLINE OR AT LEAST STABILIZE.
AND SO THOSE DEBT LEVELS THEN COME DOWN.
BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS YOU LOOK AT DEBT.
FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WERE TO ASK YOURSELVES, WELL WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE RIGHT AMOUNT YOU SHOULD HAVE AS A MORTGAGE? WHAT'S TOO MUCH? WHAT'S TOO LITTLE? WHAT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU MAKE, HOW OLD YOU ARE, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND SO THIS IS A SIMPLER WAY TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE.
AND I MIGHT ADD THAT IN 2016, PERVEZ CAN ATTEST TO THIS 'CAUSE HIM AND I DISCUSSED IT MANY TIMES.
THE DEBT TO TAV VALUE IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND IN 2016 OUR DEBT TO TAV WAS ONE OF THE HIGHER ONES BECAUSE WE HAD JUST ISSUED THE BONDS FOR THE 2013 ROAD.
WE DID IT ALL IN BULK, UH, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHER PROJECTS I WOULD ASSUME.
AND THAT PUT US AT, AND OUR TAV WAS A THIRD OF WHAT IT IS NOW.
AND SO IT, WE WERE AMONG THE HIGHEST.
SO, AND THAT WAS JUST EIGHT YEARS AGO.
SO IT EXACTLY RIGHT, IT DOES, IT GOES UP AND DOWN DEPENDING ON A LOT OF FACTORS.
SO THIS NEXT SLIDE IS SAME INFORMATION, SAME COMPARISON, BUT IS OF NET DEBT THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL FUND OR PROPERTY TAX RATES IN EACH COMMUNITY.
THE, THE HIGHEST ONE HERE IS PFLUGERVILLE AT 4.22% AND THE LOW IS AUSTIN AT 0.62%.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE LIKE LATER FOR YOU TO EMAIL ME LIKE A SLIDES THAT SHOW THE PERCENTAGE OF VALUATION OVER THE FISCAL YEAR? SO I CAN LOOK AT HOW WE TRICKLE, SIR, WITH, WITH OUR LONG-TERM DEBT AND WITH THIS DEBT PERCENT VALUATION.
JUST SO I COULD SEE HOW, WHAT PARTS, HOW THEY WORKING, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE SURE BUT FROM THE LAST 10 YEARS SO I CAN SEE THE TRENDS.
SO, SO FAR I'VE SHOWN YOU DEPTH CITIES DEBT WITHOUT ARAWA.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO AT LEAST SHARE WITH YOU WHAT OUR O DEBT LOOKS LIKE.
SO ARAWA HAS ISSUED CONTRACT REVENUE BONDS ON THE CITY'S BENEFIT FOR THE CITY'S BENEFIT.
UM, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR THOSE DEBT OBLIGATIONS.
THOSE ANNUAL DEBT OBLIGATION PAYMENTS THAT COME DUE ARE PAID THROUGH OUR WATER UTILITY SYSTEM AND THEY'RE PAID THROUGH THE WATER RATES.
THEY DON'T SHOW UP ON OUR BALANCE SHEET AS BOND DEBT.
IT SHOWS UP ON R AS A BALANCE SHEET.
SO TO DATE, THEY HAVE ISSUED $84.8 MILLION ON OUR BEHALF FOR OUR PORTION OF THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING, DESIGNING, AND BUILDING.
BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE PAID OFF $8.3 MILLION AND THE REMAINING OUTSTANDING PRINCIPAL BALANCE WOULD BE THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WILL BE $76.5 MILLION.
THE AVERAGE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE ON OUR DEBT IS ABOUT $4 MILLION A YEAR THAT WE PAY THROUGH OUR WATER RATES.
SO NOW I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH, THIS IS OUR CURRENT POSITION CHA FAR.
UM, NOW I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THE DEBT IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
OUR BEST PROJECTION AT THIS POINT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
NOW THESE ARE PRELIMINARY ASSUMPTION BASED CALCULATIONS.
CIP SPENDING PLAN PROJECTIONS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGES.
THEY WILL CHANGE AS WE DEVELOP OUR VARIOUS MASTER PLANS AND PROJECT COST ESTIMATES WILL BE FURTHER REFINED.
THIS FORECAST, AGAIN, DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY RO DEBT OR PIT BONDS.
SO I'M GONNA SKIP THE ONE YEAR FORECAST.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST.
SO HERE'S THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW.
THE TOP HALF OF THIS SCHEDULE IS NEW DEBT THAT WE THINK WE WILL END UP ISSUING THAT WILL BE SUPPORTED BY PROPERTY TAX RATE.
THE SECOND HALF IS NEW DEBT THAT WILL BE ISSUED IF OUR CIP PLAN STAYS ON SCHEDULE.
THAT WILL BE PAID BY NON-PROPERTY TAX, UH, REVENUE SOURCES.
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IF YOU GO ACROSS THAT TOP HALF IN YEAR NUMBER ONE NEXT YEAR, NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE ARE ESTIMATING THAT THE PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT WILL BE AROUND $80 MILLION.AND I'VE LISTED SOME OF THE, THE PURPOSE OF THAT NEW DEBT.
WE'LL HAVE ROAD BONDS, PARKS, BONDS, THE REGIONAL SPORTS BLOCKS, LIVE TRAIL, LAKE KENSINGTON PARK DEVELOPMENT, THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS FOR KYLE CENTER DRIVE AND MARKETPLACE AVENUE STAGECOACH AND VETERANS DRIVE, KYLE CROSSING AND KOHLER'S CROSSING MARKETPLACE AVENUE AND KOHLER'S CROSSING.
AND THEN THE ROUNDABOUT, UH, BEAUTIFICATION THAT COUNCIL, UH, DIRECTED CITY MANAGER TO, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO IN YEAR NUMBER ONE IS 80 MILLION, YEAR NUMBER, 233.5 MILLION AND SO ON SO FORTH FOR THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW.
PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT IS PROJECTED TO BE AROUND $374 MILLION.
THE SECOND HALF NON-PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT.
AND NEXT YEAR IS ABOUT 52.6 MILLION.
MAJORITY OF THAT IS FOR OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEMS. AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE SOME IN TUR NUMBER TWO, UH, FOR THE ROUNDABOUTS.
ANDT NUMBER SIX, IF YOU GO ACROSS AT THE END OF THE FIFTH YEAR, THESE NUMBERS WILL SHIFT.
I'M, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT, BUT BETWEEN THE YEARS IT WILL SHIFT.
BUT IF THE OVERALL PLAN REMAINS INTACT, WE WILL BE ISSUING ANOTHER $233 MILLION FOR NON-PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST LINE, WHICH IS THE SUM OF BOTH OF THOSE TWO COMPONENTS, NEXT YEAR IS ABOUT 132.6 MILLION.
YEAR AFTER THAT IS ANOTHER 202 MILLION.
AND FOR THIS FIVE YEAR PERIOD IS A LITTLE OVER $607 MILLION.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS AN INTERESTING CHART THAT THIS OVERLAYS THE CURRENT DEBT, ADDS THE NEW DEBT AND SUBTRACTS ANY PAYMENTS.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, YOU ASKED EARLIER, WHERE'S THE DEFIANCE IMPACT SHOWN.
SO IF YOU LOOK IN, IN COLUMN ONE, LINE FOUR, SORRY, LINE THREE NEXT YEAR WE ARE AT LEAST 3.5 MILLION WILL BE DEFE, IF NOT MORE DEPENDING ON THE TAX ASSESSED VALUATION NEXT YEAR AND HOW MUCH WE NEED TO ADJUST TO KEEP THE TAX RATE AT 46, UH, 93.
SO BY THE END OF FIFTH YEAR IT'S PROJECTED THAT WE'LL BE AROUND $600 MILLION MINUS PLUS A FEW MILLION.
SO WHAT DOES THE DEBT PER CAPITA IS GONNA LOOK LIKE AT THE END OF THEIR FIVE YEAR WINDOW? WE STAYED ON THIS SCHEDULE.
REMEMBER, CURRENT DEBT PER CAPITA FOR ALL DEBT IS 25 80.
SO AT THE END OF FIFTH YEAR, WHICH IS, WHICH WILL BE 2029.
AND THE LAST BAR HERE WILL TAKE US UP TO $8,037 PER CAPITA.
SO SAME CHART COMPARING WITH OUR PEER CITIES.
KYLE, THE FIRST KYLE ORANGE BAR IS OUR EXISTING DEBT.
THE SECOND BAR IS KEEPING EVERYBODY ELSE CONSTANT AT THE END OF FIFTH YEAR.
IF WE SOLD ALL THOSE BONDS THAT WE THINK WE'RE GONNA END UP SELLING, OUR PROJECTED DEBT PER CAPITA IS A LITTLE OVER $8,000.
PEREZ, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE DEBT PER CAPITA? THE ONE RIGHT BEFORE THAT ONE? YEAH.
IS THERE A WAY, WELL, COULD YOU DO THIS ONE FOR ME WHERE YOU DO THE COLUMN THAT'S THE PAID FOR BY PROPERTY TAX AND THEN WITH ON TOP OF THAT, THE, UM, HOW MUCH IS PAID FOR BY NOT PROPERTY TAX, THAT PER CAPITA? YES, WE CAN SEPARATE THAT.
JUST SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BREAKUP OVER, OVER THE YEARS WILL DO.
SO THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST OF CITY'S DEBT AS A PERCENTAGE OF AV OR ASSESSED VALUATION.
SO THIS IS JUST FOR CITY OF KYLE.
OVER THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW, WE WILL GO FROM 2.4% TO ROUGHLY ABOUT 6% AT THE END OF THE FIFTH YEAR.
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IN THIS CHART, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE AV IS GONNA GROW ANNUALLY AT THE RATE OF 10% AND THE POPULATION GROWTH IS AROUND FOUR, BETWEEN FOUR AND 5% DEPENDING ON THE YEAR THAT OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAME UP.SO HERE'S THE SAME CHART THAT YOU SAW EARLIER FOR THE WHOLE, THE TOTAL DEBT COMPARISON OF DEBT AS A PERCENTAGE OF AV.
THE FIRST ORANGE FOR KYLE IS OUR CURRENT DEBT AT 2.54%.
AND THEN THE SECOND ORANGE BAR IS THAT 5.5 0.9% IF ALL DEBT IS ISSUED IN THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOW.
SO REAL QUICKLY, UPCOMING KEY DATES IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THIS SAT UH, SATURDAY, JULY 27TH.
NOT THIS SATURDAY, BUT NEXT SATURDAY, UH, CITY MANAGER WILL BE PRESENTING THE CITY'S PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.
TUESDAY, AUGUST 6TH, WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN, THE LAUNCH OF LEAN GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THAT JESSE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, RESULTS OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER COST OF SERVICE STUDY AND UH, RATE STUDY RESULTS WILL BE SHARED WITH COUNSEL THERE.
UH, WE WILL REVIEW NEW FEES AND CHARGES AND IF WE HAVE PROPERTY TAX RATE CALCULATIONS, WE WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU ON AUGUST 6TH.
ON AUGUST 20TH WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND OUR FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET ADOPTION ORDINANCE AND THE FIRST READING OF THE PROPERTY TAX RATE ORDINANCE.
AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 3RD WE HAVE THE SECOND ROUND OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET ADOPTION ORDINANCE, SECOND READING OF PROPERTY TAX RATE OR ORDINANCE.
AND THEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITY POLICIES THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING FORTH BEFORE COUNCIL FOR REAFFIRMATION OR ANY CHANGES AT THAT POINT.
ALL OF OUR BUDGET INFORMATION IS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE@CITYOFKYLE.COM SLASH FY 2025.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS UNDER NINE MINUTES.
UM, UH, SO TO ADD TO WHAT ZUNIGA WAS ASKING, UH, I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO FIGURE OUT IF WE DID D FEASANCE THROUGHOUT THIS PERIOD AS WE'RE RAMPING UP THE TAX RATE.
IF WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT FOR THAT BLOCK, WHAT WOULD THE DEBTS TAV AND WHAT WOULD BE OUR END ENDING BALANCE AS WELL? I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE PLANNED TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE DO IT TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS OR ALL THE WAY THROUGH THIS PERIOD OF HEAVY CAPITAL INVESTMENT, WHAT WOULD BE THE NET? WILL BE THE NET.
I THINK THAT'D BE, SO WE COULD HAVE A, ALRIGHT IF WE WANNA KEEP IT BELOW, IF WE'LL JUST HOLD THE TAX RATE WHERE IT IS AS OPPOSED TO, 'CAUSE I'M ASSUMING BECAUSE THE TAX RATE UNDER YOUR SCENARIO, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DROP BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HOLDING THE RATE.
WELL IT WOULD GO UP, BUT THE INS RATE WILL GO UP.
I JUST, I I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GO, WE'RE PLANNING TO GO RIGHT UP TOWARDS THAT EDGE.
THE DIFFUSE WILL CHANGE THAT CURVE AND DROP IT DOWN OVER THE COURSE OF THAT FIVE YEARS BY SOME AMOUNT IT WON'T BE NOTHING.
IT'LL BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
SO SOMETHING TO AT LEAST FOR US TO BE PONDERING, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
CUSTOMER HARRIS, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE CHARTS WAS THAT COMPARISON COMPARING OUR FIVE YEAR TO THE OTHER CITIES, WE DON'T KNOW THEIR FIVE YEARS, CORRECT? YEAH.
UM, SO IT'S ALMOST NOT A VALUABLE COMPARISON.
I MEAN I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE.
I LIKE SEEING THAT WE'RE LOW BUT THEY MAY BE SWITCHING THEIR POSITIONS.
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT BONDS THEY'RE GONNA ISSUE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT BONDS THEY WILL HAVE PAID OFF, BUT THAT, THAT'S ALL FIGURED INTO OUR FIVE YEAR.
SO IT'S THE, THE NUMBERS REALLY DON'T COMPARE VERY WELL.
WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU IF WE DID ALL OF THAT IN FIVE YEARS YEAH.
I THINK THAT THE POINT WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE IS THE RELATIVE, THE RELATIVE THE NUMBER CAN BE SCARY SOMETIMES IT'S A LOT OF ZEROS ON IT, BUT IT'S THE RELATIVE POSITION AGAINST SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE WANT TO SHOW YOU.
SO IT IS JUST A POINT IN TIME, BUT I WE AGREE IT'S IMPERF.
WELL FIVE YEARS IS NOT A POINT IN TIME.
YEAH, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO SAY WE WOULD NOT BE THE TOP ONE.
EVEN IF YOU USED ALL THAT AT THE YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE ACTUALLY.
WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF OUR CASH RESERVES PRIZE? JUST A NO AS WE'RE UNENCUMBERED FUND BALANCE.
IT'S OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD.
LET'S GO 20, 21,000,021 IN CASH RESERVE.
RIGHT? THAT'S FREE TO USE TO PAY DOWN DEBT IF WE NEED TO.
WE'RE GONNA USE MOST OF IT IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
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SO 20 MILLION IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK.YEAH, BUT THAT'S UNENCUMBERED.
WHAT DID, SO NOT TOTALLY UNENCUMBERED, UH, ENCUMBERED BY THE CHARTER.
SO THAT MEANS THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE BUDGET TO BE SPENT ON CASH, HE DEDUCTED OUT OF THAT IN HIS MENTAL MATH.
RIGHT? THAT'S HOW MUCH WE HAVE.
IF WE SPEND ALL OF THIS IN NET RESERVES, COME ON MAN.
BECAUSE WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE IS THEY PAY DOWN SOME, SOME DEBT WITH SOME CASH OVER TIME.
IT DOES CUT, CUT DOWN ALL THAT INTEREST AMOUNT.
THAT'S WHAT THE DEFE DOES, RIGHT? NO, IT WASN'T THE EXACT SAME THING.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET, HOW MUCH OF OUR CAPITAL BUDGET IS FUNDED WITH CASH, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT AVOIDS ISSUING DEBT, WHEREAS THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
GET YOU YOUR STAFF HOME, GET SOME REST FOR TOMORROW BEFORE WE TURN.
YEAH, I'VE GOT ONE LAST THING.
SO, UH, BEFORE WE GO MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? MAKE SURE THAT WE EXCUSE AN ABSENCE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND SECOND MEETING IN JUNE.
MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MAYOR PRO TEMP SECOND BY MAYOR THAT WE EXCUSE PARSLEY FOR JUNE 18TH TO SERVE DISCUSSION.