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OCTOBER 2ND TUESDAY. WE'LL NOW CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. ALL THOSE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, FOR ALL. THE CITY SECRETARY WILL PLEASE CALL. ROLL MITCHELL.RIZZO PRESENT. HEIZER HERE. ZUNIGA. PRESENT HARRIS HERE. PURSLEY HERE. TOBIAS. PRESENT ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE TRAVIS MITCHEL. SECOND, A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES, SIX ZERO. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP APPROVAL, APPROVAL OF THE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I NEED APPROVAL OF
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THE MINUTES, PLEASE. MAYOR PRO TEM, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION, SIR, TO GO AND APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 17TH AND THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES ON THE SAME DAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS. A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER HEIZER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE OPEN UP CITIZENS COMMENT, AND AT[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE CITIZENS COMMENT. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON ANY ITEM, PLEASE DO SO. WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES, AND THAT YOU DIRECT THOSE COMMENTS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FINALLY, WE ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CITIZEN COMMENT FORM AND SUBMIT IT TO EITHER MYSELF OR THE CITY SECRETARY. SO THE COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW OPEN. FIRST UP IS DAWN CONNELLY. 40, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DAWN CONNELLY, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF LAKESIDE CROSSING COMMUNITY. I VOLUNTEER AS THE PROGRAM AND ENTERTAINMENT COORDINATOR OF A SENIOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION CALLED KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE CAS FOR SHORT. I'M LEARNING WITH THE NEW COMING IN OF NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND NEW STAFF, THERE SEEMS TO BE A TELEPHONE GAME THAT HAPPENS WHILE IT'S NOT THE NEWS STAFF. NEW NEWS STAFF'S FAULT FOR RECEIVING THE WRONG INFORMATION. IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO FIX THE CORRECT AND ANY WRONG INFORMATION. THE STAFF AND COUNCIL RECEIVES. THE WEBSTER DICTIONARY DEFINES THE WORD DEDICATE AS TO SET APART TO A DEFINED USE. I WOULD LIKE TO READ FROM THE HAYS FREE PRESS ARTICLE. KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE OFFICER ODELL HURST AND KYLE MAYOR LUCY JOHNSON ARE JOINED BY LOCAL RESIDENTS FOR THE OFFICIAL REDEDICATION OF THE KYLE OLD CITY HALL. HUNDREDS CELEBRATE THE LEASE TRANSFER OF THE FACILITY FROM THE CITY TO THE SENIOR CITIZENS GROUP. OFFICIALLY, A SPECIAL USE TRANSFER OF THE FACILITY FROM THE CITY TO THE KYLE AREA SENIOR ZONE WAS SIGNED. OFFICERS OF CAS INCLUDED ADELE HURST, WHO SPEARHEADED THE RENOVATION AND THANKED THE CITY COUNCIL, LLOYD DOGGETT, KYLE MAYOR, LUCY JOHNSON, REPRESENTATIVE PATRICK ROSE, AND DIGNITARIES MINGLED WITH THE CROWD. THIS WAS FROM 2010. THE PLAQUE IS STILL FOUND IN THE HALLWAY AT THE CREW ACTIVITY CENTER. CAS KNOWS IT IS A CITY BUILDING AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO THE CITY OF KYLE.TAKES CARE OF THEIR SENIORS WITH THIS DEDICATION. I AM BEGGING YOU, AS A CITY COUNCIL TO HELP STOP THE TELEPHONE GAME AND GO BACK TO THE AGREEMENT SET ASIDE WITH FORMAL CITY COUNCIL'S CREW.
BUILDING IS A CITY BUILDING DEDICATED TO CAS, AND WITH THIS, THE CITY IS TO ASK TO WORK TO NOT DISRUPT OUR CALENDAR. WOULD IT BE RIGHT TO START DESIGNATING MADDIE'S CORNER AS THE POLICE AT THE POLICE STATION AS A STORAGE SPACE ON MONDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ALWAYS USED? NO THIS IS DEDICATED FOR A SPECIAL PLACE. DOES THE CITY GO TO THE VFW AND ASK THEM TO REMOVE THEMSELVES ON CERTAIN DAYS? NO. THIS IS A SPECIAL PLACE. ALL I KEEP GETTING FROM CITY STAFF IS.
WELL, IT'S A CITY BUILDING. AS IF THIS IS TO JUSTIFY THEIR LACK OF COMMUNICATION. AND ALSO JUSTIFY TAKING CALENDAR TIME FOR SET AND WEEKLY PROGRAMS. I WAS HEARTBROKEN TO BE TOLD NO PROGRAMS CAN BE HAPPENING ON THE WEEKENDS OF DECEMBER, WHEN I WAS ASKED FOR OUR PROGRAMS ALSO TO BE MOVED TO DAY TIME, THE REQUEST WAS DENIED. YET Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING
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TONIGHT ABOUT SEARCH USING THE BUILDING ON A WEEKEND THAT OVERLAPS CAS TIME. HOW IS IT FAIR TO BE TOLD NO ONE THAT THE ORGANIZATION STEPS IN AND DOES THIS? THE COMMENT MADE TO ME WELL, IT'S A CITY BUILDING. CAS HAS NO PROBLEM WITH USING THE BUILDING. WE JUST WISH FOR OPEN COMMUNICATION AND RESPECT FROM THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE THE CREW BUILDING AS ITS HOME. THANK YOU, MISS CONLEY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS MISS CYNTHIA BENTLEY. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CYNTHIA BENTLEY, RESIDENT FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS. NO 17 YEARS.NOW WE'RE PERMANENTLY FOR 12 YEARS HERE IN SOUTH TEXAS. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF KYLE FOR ASKING ME TO BE THE GRAND MARSHAL OF THE FOUNDER'S DAY PARADE. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS OUT THERE CELEBRATING MY BIRTHDAY AND MY SON'S BIRTHDAY. THE ENTIRE CITY OF KYLE WILL BE CELEBRATING US. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BENTLEY.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP IS MARY WIEGAND. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARY WIEGAND. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FARM PROPERTY AT 1100 EAST FM 150. OUR HOMESTEAD. MY HUSBAND, REX, GREW UP ON OUR PROPERTY. HIS PARENTS PURCHASED IN 1947.
REX AND I ACQUIRED THE FARM PROPERTY AND MOVED TO KYLE IN 1998. IN THE SPRING OF 2022, WE BECAME AWARE OF THE CITY OF KYLE'S PLANS TO EXTEND GOFORTH ROAD SOUTH THROUGH OUR FARM TO YARRINGTON ROAD. FARMING WOULD NO LONGER BE PRACTICAL ON THE PROPERTY, DIVIDED BY A FIVE LANE ROAD THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT. THAT INFORMATION PROMPTED US TO PURSUE THE SALE OF OUR FARM.
PRESENTLY, IT IS UNDER CONTRACT WITH AN AREA DEVELOPER. AT THE TIME WE PURCHASED THE FARM, KYLE'S POPULATION WAS ABOUT 10,000 AND NOW THE POPULATION IS OVER 68,000. WITH THE PRESENT GROWTH IN THE KYLE COMMUNITY COMES THE NEED FOR CAREFULLY PLANNED HOUSING FOR TEACHERS, MUNICIPAL WORKERS AND MANY OTHERS IN THE AREA. EACH OF THE THREE HAYS CISD SCHOOLS ALONG EAST FM 150 ARE TITLE ONE SCHOOLS, WHERE AT LEAST 40% OF THE STUDENT POPULATION IS FROM LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, AND FEDERAL FUNDS ARE USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE SCHOOL'S EXISTING PROGRAMS. LATER THIS EVENING, OUR DEVELOPER WILL SHARE PLANS TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY UNITS, SINGLE FAMILY AND TOWNHOMES, PROPOSED COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC HUBS, PARK AND OPEN SPACES THAT INCLUDE THE VIBE TRAIL AND CONSTRUCT A PORTION OF THE GOFORTH ROAD SOUTH. WE HOPE THE COUNCIL WILL FIND THE DEVELOPER'S PLANS FAVORABLE FOR THE GROVE AT 1100 EAST. FM 150.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MISS WIGGINS. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, NEXT UP IS TRACY SHIELD.
HELLO, MAYOR. PRO TEM, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, TONIGHT I COME TO YOU WITH THREE DIFFERENT ISSUES. THE FIRST ONE IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24. AS AN HOA PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCES FOR THE SIGNS THAT WILL VERY MUCH HELP THE HOA'S.
LET OUR RESIDENTS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CITY AS WELL. SO PLEASE APPROVE. NUMBER TWO. AND JENNIFER, HERE IT IS.
THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH IS BACK, MEANING WHEN I FIRST BOUGHT MY HOME 21 YEARS AGO, I KNEW IT WAS NEXT TO A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. I KNEW WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO. AQUA TECHS AT THAT TIME WAS NOT THE MOST NOT THE BEST. WHEN IT CAME TO KEEPING UP WITH THAT. AND SO THE CITY THEN DETERMINED THAT IT NEEDED TO TAKE IT OVER. AND I WANT TO THANK OUR CITY STAFF FOR WHAT THEY DID AT THE TIME, ESPECIALLY JASON BEAMER, WHO WORKED VERY HARD IN TRYING TO GET THAT BACK UP TO TSEC. CRITERIA. THEN WE HAD THE WASTEWATER, YOU KNOW, THE EXPANSION OF THE PLANT AND OVERALL THAT WENT OKAY. I MEAN, WE HAD SOME GLITCHES HERE AND THERE TO BE EXPECTED, BUT THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED, BUT WE
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ARE SMELLING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ON ALMOST A NIGHTLY OR EVERY OTHER NIGHT BASIS. IF THE WIND IS DEAD, WE'RE SMELLING IT AND IT'S BAD ENOUGH WHERE THEY SMELL IT AT THE FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE WHO, WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE, THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS THERE BECAUSE OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT A GREAT SELLING POINT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SELL YOUR HOUSE. BUT, SO I DON'T AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED, BUT PLEASE, I'M ASKING THE CITY TO, TO LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. AND FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S GETTING REALLY BAD. NUMBER THREE, AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF KYLE, I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED. AT LAST, THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, SEVERAL OF YOU, WHEN I WAS ON THE DAIS KNOW ABOUT MY. I GUESS, PET PEEVE OF EAST KYLE VERSUS WEST KYLE. WE ARE NOT THE CITY OF EAST KYLE. WE ARE NOT THE CITY OF WEST KYLE. WE ARE THE CITY OF KYLE. AND YES, I KNOW WE HAVE I-35 THAT GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF US. AND WE ALSO HAVE A RAILROAD TRACK THAT PRETTY MUCH GOES RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF U.BUT WE NEED TO ENCOMPASS THAT AS A COMMERCIAL TAXPAYING ENTITY WITHIN OUR CITY, NOT A BOUNDARY TO THE CITY. AND WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS WHOLE THING BETWEEN EAST VERSUS WEST HAS GOT TO STOP. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MICHEL. NEXT UP, WE HAVE MISS MELISSA MEDINA.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL. MELISSA MEDINA. FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK ON PROJECT SAHARA. LIVING ON THE EAST SIDE OF KYLE, OFF OF 150 ALREADY OUR SIDE OF TOWN STRUGGLES GOING HOME IN THE EVENINGS WITH TRAFFIC, OUR ROADS NOT BEING IMPROVED. WE KNOW THE PROJECT IS COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE BETWEEN MICKEY COURT AND HILL STREET AND THAT TXDOT IS WORKING TO IMPROVE THAT AREA OF ROAD. BUT SHOULD WE NOT IMPROVE ROADS FIRST BEFORE WE PUT IN NEW BIG SUBDIVISIONS, MORE PROPERTIES, MORE HOMES AND MORE BUSINESSES INTO THE AREA. RIGHT NOW IT'S A TWO LANE HIGHWAY WITH A TURNING LANE IN THE MIDDLE. AND IF YOU DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD EARLY IN THE MORNING, 150 COMING FROM THE COOL SPRINGS, WATER LEAF AREA, YOU CAN'T GO ANYWHERE BECAUSE OF ALL THE PARENTS GOING INTO TOBIAS TO DROP OFF THEIR KIDS. AND THEN COMING HOME IN THE EVENING, THE SAME THING. SO THAT'S A HUGE CONCERN. GETTING THE ROADS IMPROVED FIRST. AND WE KNOW IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO IMPROVE ROADS. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE DOCKET TONIGHT, TALKING ABOUT THE 2022 ROAD BOND AND MANY OF THOSE ROADS OUT HERE ON THIS SIDE OF TOWN AREN'T GOING TO BE PROJECTED TO BE COMPLETE UNTIL 2026, 27, 28, 29, AND ALREADY AT OVER $1 MILLION PROJECTED BUDGET. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING, WE SHOULD ASK OUR DEVELOPERS TO PUT IT AS PART OF THEIR PROJECT TO IMPROVE THE ROADS. I KNOW AT ONE POINT H-E-B WAS MOVING IN ON THAT PROPERTY OVER BETWEEN MICKEY COURT AND HILL STREET, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO IMPROVE THE ROADS. THAT'S WHY HUBS WERE HUBS AT BECAUSE THE ROAD WAS ALREADY IMPROVED THERE, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, YOU CAN'T IMPROVE 158 BACK THERE BEHIND THAT AREA BETWEEN THAT AND COOL SPRINGS, THE WAY IT CURVES, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH. AND WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD GOING IN BACK THERE. SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT TROUBLE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, SO JUST ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. THEY REALLY NEED TO BE ADDED INTO THE DEVELOPER'S REQUEST WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING. AND NOT FIVE YEARS LATER, MAYBE BEFOREHAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MEDINA. ALL RIGHT. I'VE GOT NO MORE FORMS. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AS A FILL OUT FORM? MISS CONNOR? MISS BETTY CONNELLY. YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. MY NAME IS BETTY CONNELLY, AND I LIVE IN 87 EAGLE CREEK IN KYLE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THE SENIORS OF KYLE, WE'RE HOPING TO GET THE BIGGER SPACE. WE HAVE OVER 1032 MEMBERS. WE'RE GETTING 15 TO 20 NEW MEMBERS
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EVERY MONTH. EVERYBODY'S EXCITED. I WANTED TO INVITE YOU TO THE THANKSGIVING LUNCHEON THAT THE KFC IS GOING TO BE DOING FROM SAINT ANTHONY KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS, FROM SAINT ANTHONY'S. AND IT WILL BE NOVEMBER 19TH. SO PLEASE MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS CONLEY. ANYONE ELSE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? WE'LL NOW CLOSE CITIZENS COMMENT. CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED. ANYONE[IV) Agenda Order]
WISHING TO PULL SOMETHING OR CHANGE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, ORDER. SEEING NONE, WE'LL NOW[3) Consider approval of a resolution to reappoint Eddie Brown to Seat 2 and Julian Hernandez to Seat 4 for a two-year term expiring September 2026; to appoint Henry Siller to Seat 6 for a two-year term expiring September 2026; to appoint Spencer Violette to Seat 3 for a term to expire September 2025; and to appoint Dr. Giao Phan as an ex officio member of the Economic Development and Tourism Board.]
MOVE ON TO APPOINTMENTS. ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, APPOINTMENTS. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO REAPPOINT NEIL STIGALL TO THE SEAT NUMBER FOUR. AND TO APPOINT JAKE WEBB TO SEAT NUMBER TWO AND JAY COOKE SEAT NUMBER SIX OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EXPIRING SEPTEMBER 2026. MELISSA MCCALL, THIS IS YOUR ITEM.I'M SORRY. OH. I'M SORRY. LOOK DOWN. VICTORIA VARGAS I'M SORRY, MISS VARGAS. WELL, I, I DON'T THINK VICTORIA IS ABLE TO MAKE IT. I MY UNDERSTANDING JESSIE WAS GOING TO PRESENT ON THIS ITEM, SO I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION ON OUR PART. I APOLOGIZE. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, JESSIE, YOU'RE UP. I THINK THE WRONG ITEM WAS READ IN. OH, I'M SORRY, I READ THE WRONG ONE. MY BAD. YEAH, I SKIPPED IT, TOO. LET ME START OVER. ALL RIGHT. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO REAPPOINT EDDIE BROWN TO C TWO AND JULIAN HERNANDEZ, C FOUR, FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EXPIRING SEPTEMBER 2026. APPOINTMENT OF HENRY SILLER TO SEAT NUMBER SIX TO A TWO YEAR TERM EXPIRING SEPTEMBER 26TH, TO APPOINT SPENCER VIOLET TO C THREE FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 2025. APPOINT DOCTOR GIAFFONE AS AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD. PRISONER IS VICTORIA VARGAS, BUT JESSIE IS GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE. SORRY.
THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. I BET WE HAVE A COUPLE REAPPOINTMENTS AND APPOINTMENTS FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD. THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE OR THE COMMITTEE? THE APPOINTMENT COMMITTEE MET ON SEPTEMBER 6TH, AND I WAS GOING TO RUN THROUGH THESE THESE APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS. BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TREAT TONIGHT. THE CHAIR, EDDIE BROWN, IS HERE.
AND WE HAD TALKED TO HIM AND HE SAID HE WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO COME UP AND PRESENT THIS TO YOU GUYS. SO I'M GOING TO LET HIM COME UP AND RUN THROUGH THESE NAMES. HE WAS THERE IN THE IN THE COMMITTEE, AS YOU ALL APPROVED THE NEW POLICY, WHERE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE IS ALSO THERE TO HELP VOTE ON THE DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I'M GONNA LET HIM COME UP AND PRESENT THESE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY NEIGHBORS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY, WE HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR AND PLEASURE OF REVIEWING APPLICANTS WHO WISH TO SERVE ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD, THE RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS ROBUST. WE HAD 16 CANDIDATES WHO WERE FULLY QUALIFIED TO OCCUPY THE SEATS THAT WERE OPEN. WE FEEL LIKE WE RAN A WONDERFUL PROCESS AS A TEAM. IN FACT, WE TOOK AN ADDITIONAL STEP OF INTERVIEWING SOME OF THE CANDIDATES WHO WE IDENTIFIED AS FINALISTS, THROUGH ZOOM CONFERENCE CALLS. SO WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THEM, ASK THEM QUESTIONS, WHAT THEIR PASSIONS WERE ABOUT THE CITY OF KYLE, WHAT THE ROLE THEY FELT OUR BOARD WAS. AND I THINK THE COMMITTEE LANDED ON SOME TERRIFIC CANDIDATES WHO ARE UNIQUELY SKILLED AND QUALIFIED, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT THEM TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.
THANKS, EDDIE. SO WE HAVE REAPPOINTMENTS OF EDDIE, OUR CHAIR, AND JULIAN HERNANDEZ, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A NEW APPOINTMENTS OF SPENCER VIOLET IN SEAT THREE AND HENRY SILVER IN SEAT SIX. THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPOINTMENT. AND THEN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM BOARD MET ON SEPTEMBER 4TH. AND THEY HAVE AN EX-OFFICIO APPOINTMENT FOR DOCTOR GAIL FAN. SO OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL ARE TO APPROVE OR TO APPROVE SOME OR TO DENY THE REAPPOINTMENTS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR A MOTION, COUNCILOR TOBIAS? YES. MISTER BROWN. I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST CAME ON BOARD. AND OF COURSE, I APPROVED YOU TO BE ON THIS CHAIR. AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO THIS BOARD RIGHT HERE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANTED, BEFORE REAPPOINTMENT. SO THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST TERM IF YOU WERE TO GO THROUGH. CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I'VE HEARD GREAT THINGS ABOUT YOU, AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THAT. SO WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, IF THERE'S NOBODY OTHER THAT IS GOING TO HAVE ANY DIALOG, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JULIAN OF EDDIE BROWN. JULIAN HERNANDEZ AND MR. SPILLER, ALONG WITH APPOINTING
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MR. DOCTOR POND TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM BOARD AND OF COURSE, SPENCER VIOLET FOR SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILOR TOBY, A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER HEIZER. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING, THIS WAS ONE OF THE LAST BOARDS THAT HAD A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, AND THERE WAS SOME DEBATE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO FILL THIS BOARD WITH THE REQUIREMENT. AND SITTING HERE NOW KNOWING THAT WE HAD THE, THE VOLUME OF CANDIDATES FOR THESE TWO SEATS IS EXTREMELY ENCOURAGING. AND IT'S EXACTLY THE REASON WHY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY AND I AT THE TIME MADE THE CONTROVERSIAL MOVE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE INSTITUTE THIS REQUIREMENT. SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS. AND IF YOU DIDN'T GET SELECTED THIS TIME, PLEASE DON'T LET THAT DISCOURAGE YOU FOR THE NEXT TIME OR FOR ANOTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THANK[4) Consider approval of a resolution to reappoint Neil Stegall to Seat 4; and to appoint Jake Webb to Seat 2 and Jacob Houk to Seat 6 of the Planning and Zoning Commission for two-year terms expiring September 2026.]
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EDDIE ALL RIGHT. NOW. NUMBER FOUR. NEXT UP, NUMBER FOUR. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO REAPPOINT NEIL STEGALL TO C4 AND TO APPOINT JAKE WEBB TO C2 AND JACOB HAUCK TO SEEK SIX OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR TWO YEARS. TERMS EXPIRING SEPTEMBER 2026. MELISSA, NOW YOUR TEARS. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MELISSA MCCULLUM, CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER I HAD THE EXCITING PRIVILEGE TO WORK WITH THE REAPPOINTMENT COMMITTEE ON THIS AND OUR CURRENT PNC CHAIR, SARAH LINCOLN, IS ACTUALLY HERE AS WELL, SO WE HAD ONE, EXISTING COMMISSIONER APPLY FOR REAPPOINTMENT, NEIL STEGALL FOR A SEAT FOR. AND HE WAS RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE BOARD TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO THAT. AND WE HAVE TWO NEWCOMERS, BOTH FOR SEAT TWO AND SEATS SIX. JACOB WEBB AND JACOB HOUCK, FOR TO SERVE ON NEW COMMISSIONERS FOR THOSE SEATS. AND SO WITH THAT, THE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND UNANIMOUSLY THESE THREE INDIVIDUALS TO HOPEFULLY ROUND OUT OUR PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS, SURE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER APPROVAL. I'D LIKE TO.MOTION TO MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ITEM NUMBER FOUR. LET'S DO THAT. THAT'S SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER HEIZER, A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I REAL QUICK. YEAH. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER SEAGULL. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK. WE'VE SEEN YOU MANY TIMES ON, IN THE MEETINGS, YOU'VE BEEN GIVING A LOT OF GREAT INPUT ON THE CITY. YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF YOUR HOMEWORK, AND WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. AND IF IT GOES THROUGH, I APPRECIATE YOUR, CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING REAPPOINTED. AND AGAIN, IF THIS MOTION GOES THROUGH AGAIN, WELCOME TO THE NEW, INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL BE SERVING. YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE, LIKE, WHAT MR. HEIZER SAYING. A LOT OF PEOPLE STEPPING UP IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE VERY GLAD FOR THAT. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PARSLEY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A SIMILAR COMMENT. I WE APPRECIATE TO SEE YOU HERE. DURING THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND GIVING YOUR FEEDBACK TO US, WHETHER IT IS LIKE TO AGREE WITH THE REST OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING OR NOT.
IT'S VERY APPRECIATED WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR INPUT AND DECISIONS THAT WE'RE TAKING, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE. SO THANK YOU. SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR TIME. AND THAT GOES TO OUR CHAIR THAT IS ALWAYS VERY INVOLVED TO. IS J J. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR COMING. DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING AT ALL? I KNOW SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP FOR THESE. IS THERE SOMETIMES A FORMALITY? BUT YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE SITTING IN THE FRONT, SO I FIGURED I'D PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. YEAH GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WELL, WELL, THANK YOU FOR SAYING YES. THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND THANK YOU FOR SERVING. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. NO MORE DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES, SIX ZERO. CONGRATULATIONS
[5) Consider approval of a resolution to reappoint Brook Pillifant to Seat 2 for a two-year term expiring September 2026, and appoint Anabel Gomez to Seat 1, and Melissa Spence to Seat 3 to fill vacancies expiring September 2025 to the Arts and Cultural Board.]
CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION OF REAPPOINT BROOKE PHILLIFENT TO SEAT TWO FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EXPIRING SEPTEMBER 2026. AND THE APPOINTMENT OF ANABEL GOMEZ TO SEAT ONE AND MELISSA SPENCE TO SEAT THREE TO FILL VACANCIES EXPIRING SEPTEMBER OF 2025 TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL BOARD. AMBER, THIS IS YOUR ITEM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL, WE HAD THREE ELIGIBLE APPLICATIONS APPLY FOR ONE[00:25:05]
REAPPOINTMENT, TWO APPOINTMENTS. THE ARTS AND CULTURAL BOARD HAS SEVEN MEMBERS. SEATS ONE THROUGH FOUR ARE ARTISTS. COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES FIVE AND SIX ARE CITIZEN COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES, AND SEVEN IS A BUSINESS COMMUNITY REP. WITH THESE APPOINTMENTS, THE BOARD WILL STILL HAVE TWO REMAINING VACANCIES THAT WE WILL PROACTIVELY TRY TO FILL SEATS FOR AND SIX. SO WE ARE ASKING FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO SEAT TWO WITH BROOKE LAFONT, SHE WAS APPOINTED IN APRIL 2022 WHEN THE BOARD WAS CREATED. SHE TEACHES ART CLASSES AT THE HAYS COUNTY JAIL. HOSTS AN ANNUAL POP UP ART SHOW IN SAN MARCOS, AND SHE'S CURRENTLY WORKING TO ESTABLISH A TINY ART GALLERY PROGRAM IN THE CITY, WITH HER WORK ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW. WE ALSO HAVE ANABEL GOMEZ FOR SEAT ONE. SHE'S A LONGTIME KYLE RESIDENT AND ARTIST. SHE HAS HER BACHELOR OF ARTS IN STUDIO ARTS. SHE HAS EXPERIENCE AS A PUBLIC ART PROGRAM MANAGER, ARTISTIC ASSOCIATE, AND CULTURAL ACTIVITIES SPECIALIST. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE MELISSA SPENCE FOR SEAT THREE. SHE'S A KYLE RESIDENT AND ARTIST. SHE HAS HER BACHELOR'S IN GRAPHIC DESIGN, AND SHE CURRENTLY WORKS AS A PROJECT MANAGER ART CONSULTANT. ALL THREE VERY WONDERFUL AND CAPABLE CANDIDATES FOR YOU. THE PANEL CONVENED ON SEPTEMBER 24TH AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY DECIDED TO RECOMMEND THIS PANEL. AND SO THESE ARE THE OPTIONS FOR YOU TONIGHT. AND WE OBVIOUSLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AWESOME, I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FIVE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY. ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I SERVED ON THAT PANEL TO REVIEW THE APPLICANTS, AND I'M JUST SO IMPRESSED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE APPLYING FOR OUR VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND WE WILL FILL THOSE OTHER TWO OPENINGS QUICKLY. IT'S GREAT TO SEE SO MANY PEOPLE GETTING INVOLVED AND WANTING TO GET INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO I'M REALLY HAPPY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S GREAT.SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS. A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING
[6) A proclamation recognizing Domestic Violence Awareness Month.]
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, COUNCILWOMAN PARSLEY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS THE CRIME OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VIOLATES THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS OF SAFETY AND DIGNITY. AND 216 TEXANS WERE KILLED IN AN INTIMATE PARTNER HOMICIDE, INCLUDING 179 WOMEN AND 37 MEN. AND WHEREAS THE PROBLEM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS NOT CONFINED TO ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE, BUT CUT ACROSS ALL ECONOMIC, RACIAL, GENDER AND SUICIDAL BARRIERS. AND WHEREAS THE IMPACT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND TEEN DATING VIOLENCE DIRECTLY AFFECTS INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES, WHEN SOCIETY IGNORES OR TOLERATES VIOLENCE IN RELATIONSHIPS. AND WHEREAS LAST YEAR THE HAYS CULTURAL CENTER PROVIDED FACE TO FACE SERVICES TO OVER 1044 LOCAL VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND PROVIDED 7438 DAYS OF SHELTER. AND WHEREAS LAST YEAR, THE HAYS COUNTY WOMEN'S CENTER PROVIDED THESE DIRECT SERVICES TO 157 VICTIMS FROM THE CITY OF KYLE AND NOW, THEREFORE, I. DANIELA PARSLEY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER DISTRICT FIVE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BRING AWARENESS REGARDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND APPRECIATE THE JOB THAT THE HAYS COUNTY WOMEN'S CENTER HAS DONE WITH US.IT HAS BEEN GREAT TO BE ABLE TO HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THE EFFORTS THAT YOU GUYS DO. I'M GLAD THAT WAS IT. LAST MEETING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY OF KYLE GIVES, WHICH IS JUST TO TALK INTO THE INCREDIBLE JOB THAT YOU GUYS DO FOR US AND FOR SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD LIKE TO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON MISS CHRISTINE DALTON BECAUSE SHE IS OUR VICTIM SERVICES LIAISON. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH US, TOO. HELLO, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. MAYOR PRO TEM AND CITY COUNCIL, SO MY NAME IS CHRISTINE DALTON. I WORK WITHIN THE VICTIM SERVICES DIVISION WITH THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO I'M GOING TO ECHO A LOT OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT TODAY, AND PROCLAIMING OCTOBER NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE MONTH, SO THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S REALLY CLOSE AND PERSONAL TO US IN THE VICTIM SERVICES DIVISION. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HONOR SAMANTHA DEAN, WHO WAS OUR ORIGINAL VICTIM SERVICES COORDINATOR AND ACTUALLY LOST HER LIFE TO INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE. SO FEBRUARY 2025 WILL BE THE TEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF HER DEATH,
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SO WE'RE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF HER AND ALSO ALL OF THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SO AS WE ALL KNOW NOW, OCTOBER IS NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GATHER TODAY NOT JUST TO RAISE OUR VOICES, BUT ALSO TO DEMONSTRATE A UNITED STANCE AGAINST THE ISSUE THAT AFFECTS COUNTLESS LIVES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND BEYOND, IN THE UNITED STATES, ROUGHLY 1 IN 2 WOMEN AND 2 IN 5 MEN HAVE EXPERIENCED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.AND THAT'S JUST WHAT'S REPORTED. THERE'S COUNTLESS INSTANCES THAT ARE NOT TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CAN TAKE MANY FORMS. IT CAN LOOK LIKE PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, AND THIS YEAR ALONE, OUR VICTIM SERVICES DIVISION HAVE SERVED OVER 150 VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND THAT NUMBER WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AS TIME GOES ON, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE LIKE YOU WERE SAYING. IT DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE FOR ANYBODY'S AGE, GENDER EXPRESSION, RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION, OR SOCIAL STATUS, IT CAN TOUCH ALL OF US. AND IT DOES. IT TAKES MANY FORMS, LIKE I TALKED ABOUT AND EDUCATION IS ONE OF OUR MOST POWERFUL TOOLS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUSES OF THE VICTIM SERVICES DIVISION AND THE WORK THAT WE DO. SO BY RAISING AWARENESS, WE NOT ONLY BRING LIGHT TO THE ISSUE, BUT WE CAN EMPOWER VICTIMS TO SEEK HELP, WE HAVE ACCESS TO RESOURCES LIKE THE WOMEN'S CENTER AND ALSO TO ENCOURAGE BYSTANDERS TO TAKE ACTION. IT'S CRITICAL THAT PROGRAMS LIKE OUR VICTIM SERVICES DIVISION EXIST SO THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT ABUSE LOOKS LIKE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE EDUCATE OURSELVES, EACH OTHER AND OUR CHILDREN ABOUT WHAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS AND HOW TO STOP IT.
SO BY PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, WE CAN CONTINUE TO FOSTER A COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF KYLE THAT PUTS FORTH THE EFFORT TO STOP VIOLENCE AND IN TURN, A COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTS HEALING, HOPE AND WORKS TIRELESSLY TO ENSURE THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL KNOWS THAT THEY DESERVE TO FEEL SAFE AND VALUED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRISTINE. AND WE HAVE SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HAYS COUNTY WOMEN'S CENTER. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO STOP BY AND HEAR SOMETHING WITH US? I JUST WANT TO. MELISA RODRIGUEZ I'M THE CEO OF THE HAYS CALDWELL WOMEN'S CENTER. I FIRST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR NOT ONLY SPONSORING THE PROCLAMATION TODAY, BUT ALSO FOR I WANT TO ECHO THAT SUPPORT AND INCREASING OUR AWARD THIS YEAR TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE CANNOT DO THE WORK THAT WE DO IN THE VARIOUS WAYS THAT WE DO IT WITH SHELTER, COUNSELING, CRISIS INTERVENTION, ADVOCACY, HOSPITAL RESPONSE, WORK WITH CHILDREN, GROUPS, HELPLINE, ALL OF IT WITHOUT THAT SUPPORT. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. WE ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE ANY COMMUNITY MEMBER TO ATTEND ANY OF OUR EVENTS. WE'RE HOSTING LOTS OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF OCTOBER. ONE OF THOSE, I SENT AN INVITE. I HOPE YOU RECEIVED IT FOR A HOMELESS COALITION THAT I KNOW THEY'RE ABOUT TO COME UP AS WELL, WE ARE. I AM ACTUALLY PRESENTING AS A TALKING ABOUT THE INTERSECTIONS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND HOMELESSNESS AND MAKING THE COMMUNITY AWARE THAT THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF HOMELESSNESS FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SO I ENCOURAGE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO ATTEND TO PLEASE SIGN UP. AND WE ALSO HAVE A CONFERENCE COMING UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH WHERE WE WILL HAVE SOME RENOWNED SPEAKERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS VERY ISSUE. IT'S IN CALDWELL COUNTY, BUT EVERYONE IS ENCOURAGED, AND I THINK WE LEFT SOME FLIERS IN THE BACK. SO THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. AND IF THERE'S EVER ANY TIME THAT ANY OF YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T COME TO OUR CENTER, I KNOW EVERY TIME I COME HERE, I'M INVITING EVERYONE. BUT I DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME INTO OUR FACILITIES. I'M HAPPY TO SHOW YOU AROUND AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR MONEY IS GOING. SO THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION, DOCTOR HARRIS? JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. I STARTED THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER IN SAN ANGELO IN 1979. WE WERE THE THIRD SHELTER IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, I RAN THAT SHELTER FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND. AND THEN SOME YEARS LATER, FOUND MYSELF BEING THE VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SO IT IS NO, THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES TO WHO CAN BE A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SO I WANT TO THANK THE CENTER AND ALL THE WORK YOU DO AND ALL OF THE SHELTERS AROUND THE STATE OF TEXAS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO FINISH UP WITH SAYING WHAT AMAZING RESOURCES WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY. THE HAYS COUNTY WOMEN'S SHELTER AND THE HAYS COUNTY FOOD BANK. WELL, THANK COUNCILMEMBER HEIZER FOR FINDING THE FUNDING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, OVER A YEAR AGO, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED GIVING TO THE HAYS CALDWELL WOMEN'S CENTER. CORRECT. IS IT TWO YEARS NOW? IS IT TWO YEARS NOW? SO IT'S GREAT. SO IT'S I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR AND DANIELLA AND DANIELLA. OH OKAY. I DIDN'T.
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COOL. WELL THANK YOU. ME ON THE TOUR. WELL, THANK YOU FOR BOTH OF YOU FOR GETTING THIS DONE.SOMETHING I HAD TRIED TO DO. AND I'M GLAD THAT Y'ALL TOOK IT TO THE FINISH LINE. I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THESE ARE TWO RESOURCES THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN REALLY BENEFIT FROM. AND I REALLY THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU ALL DO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH THE PROCLAMATION, PLEASE? YES. COME ON UP, MISS LAURA. TO MY STAFF. COME ON, YOU TWO. UP HERE. I THINK WE'LL GO DOWN. WE'RE GOING TO GO. GO DOWN! SORRY. OKAY, WE'LL GO DOWN. OKAY, SIR. OKAY ALRIGHT. NO. DON'T WORRY. ALL RIGHT. I GOT TO GET REAL CLOSE. LIKE Y'ALL LIKE EACH OTHER. THANKS FOR COMING TO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CAN WE GET Y'ALL TO SCOOCH IN JUST A LITTLE BIT? IF YOU'RE MAYBE SHORTER, WE MIGHT HAVE A DOUBLE ROW. SORRY, SORRY. SHORT PEOPLE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DARBY, CAN YOU MOVE IN? JUST A LITTLE BIT? THAT'S BETTER. SHE STARTED AT THE WOMEN'S COUNCIL. MEMBER HEIZER. CAN YOU MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT TO BE US? JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE MAKING ME STRETCH. ALL RIGHT. ON THE COUNT OF THREE. ONE, TWO, THREE. AND THEN I'M GOING TO GRAB A SECOND ONE WITH A THIS ONE. OKAY. ON THE COUNT OF THREE. ONE, TWO. THREE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. THANK. YOU. I THINK I TOOK. OKAY. IT'S TIME NUMBER SEVEN. A PROCLAMATION
[7) A proclamation recognizing 2024 World Homeless Day.]
RECOGNIZING 2024 WORLD HOMELESS DAY. IT'S MY. IT'S MY HONOR TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION. CITY OF KYLE CITY COUNCIL PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS SINCE 2010, WORLD HOMELESS DAY HAS BEEN OBSERVED TO FOCUS ON THE ISSUES OF HOMELESSNESS AND INADEQUATE HOUSING THAT AFFECT AT LEAST 150 MILLION PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD, INCLUDING 650,000 3104 AND MAYBE MORE, OR 5 OR 6 OR A THOUSAND MORE ON A SINGLE NIGHT IN AMERICA IN 2023. AND WHEREAS THE PURPOSE OF THE PROCLAMATION IS TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, INCLUDING THE SHORTAGE OF LOW INCOME HOUSING THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY, AND TO ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABLE FUNDING AND RESOURCE SUPPORT FOR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE SERVICE PROVIDERS. AND WHEREAS, THE HOMELESS COALITION OF HAYS COUNTY'S MEMBERSHIP, WHICH CURRENTLY INCLUDES 35 ORGANIZATIONS AND 12 INDIVIDUALS, RECOGNIZES THAT HOMELESSNESS OR THE POSSIBILITY OF BECOMING HOMELESS CONTINUES TO BE A SERIOUS ISSUE FOR MANY INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY OF KYLE COUNCIL HEREBY PROCLAIMS OCTOBER 10TH, 2024 AS WORLD HOMELESS DAY AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS AND SERVICE PROVIDER ORGANIZATIONS TO UNITE IN A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO HOMELESSNESS ISSUES THAT NEED ALL OF THEIR SUPPORT AND TESTIMONY WHEREOF I HAVE HEREUNTO SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS TO BE AFFIXED. THE SECOND DAY OF OCTOBER, 2024. LAURA LEE HARRIS, COUNCIL MEMBER. ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT. WELL, DO YOU WANT TO BRING A COUPLE? LISA, COME ON UP RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS READY TO SAY SOMETHING. OKAY FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT YOU MENTIONED IN THE PROCLAMATION, THAT'S JUST THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO US IS THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN 30 ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS COUNTY THAT WE MEET REGULARLY TO SHARE OUR RESOURCES, FIND OUT WHERE OUR GAPS ARE FOR THIS PROBLEM THAT IS IN EVERY TOWN IN TEXAS, AND MAKE NO MISTAKE, POVERTY IS A SERIAL KILLER. HOMELESSNESS, ESPECIALLY UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, IS A KILLER FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR INDIVIDUALS. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T SEE, WHEN MISS HARRIS WAS TALKING ABOUT.MAYBE IT'S MORE. MAYBE IT'S MORE. MAYBE IT'S MORE. IT'S ALWAYS MORE BECAUSE THERE'S THE
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PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T SEE THAT DON'T COME TO THE AGENCIES THAT ARE ACTIVELY HIDING OR THAT ARE JUST MOVING FROM PLACE TO PLACE TO WHERE WE CAN NEVER TOUCH THEM LONG ENOUGH TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE SERVICES THEY NEED. BUT JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T OWN REAL ESTATE HERE DOESN'T MEAN THEY AREN'T OUR NEIGHBOR. THAT WE SHOULD LOVE AS WE LOVE OURSELVES. AND IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK WITH THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. OUR FRIENDS AT THE WOMEN'S CENTER AND ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS HAYS COUNTY TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO CARE FOR THOSE NEIGHBORS. AND I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, AT THESE MEETINGS, I BELIEVE THAT A COMMUNITY WILL ALWAYS EVENTUALLY BE JUDGED ON HOW IT CARED FOR ITS MOST VULNERABLE MEMBERS, AND THAT'S US. AND THAT'S ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS TOGETHER. SO I REALLY THANK YOU FOR CALLING THIS ONE DAY OF RECOGNITION THAT WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON THE PROBLEM AS IT LIES IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND RECOGNIZING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING ON IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO. THANK YOU LISA.WELL, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT THERE. SO DO YOU. PITCHER DO YOU WANT TO DO A PICTURE? ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GO. SO MY 16 YEAR OLD SON IS HERE AND I'M GOING TO DRAG HIM TO THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE HAS VOLUNTEERED WITH CARITAS WITH MOBILE LOAVES AND FISHES AND WITH OTHER HOMELESS ORGANIZATIONS, STARTING WHEN HE WAS SIX YEARS OLD. HE'S LIKE, TAKE. EVERYTHING PERFECT. ALL RIGHT, IF Y'ALL CAN SCOOCH ALL TOGETHER AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE SO I CAN GET AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE PHOTO. COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, COME ON. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA NEED MY ENDS TO MOVE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. OH, SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER. TOBIAS, CAN I GET YOU ONE STEP CLOSER? ALL RIGHT. ON THE COUNT OF THREE. ONE, TWO. THREE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ALL. SO.
[8) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the City of Kyle’s 2022 Road Bond Program.]
RIGHT. MOVING ON TO NUMBER EIGHT. RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE CITY'S OF KYLE'S 2022 ROAD BOND PROJECT. JOE CANTALUPO, K FREEZ.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD, I'M JOE CANTALUPO. I WORK FOR K FREEZE AND ASSOCIATES, AND I AM THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR YOUR ROAD BOND PROGRAM. I HAVE A PRETTY COMPLETE, PRESENTATION TONIGHT, AND I'M GOING TO TRY. WELL, IF I CAN FIGURE THIS OUT, GO FAST, BUT SO I'LL START WITH A COUPLE OF KEY TAKEAWAYS. AND IF YOU NEED ME TO, TO SLOW DOWN OR SPEED UP, PLEASE JUST TELL ME. THE FIRST THING TO NOTE IS THAT WE ARE MAKING SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS AND FORWARDING ALL THE BOND PROGRAM, THE ENTIRE PROGRAM, AND THE PROJECTS.
YOU'LL SEE THAT SOME PROJECTS, HAVE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME DELAYS, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCELERATE OTHERS, YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT CURRENT PROJECTIONS, IT'S NOT MONEY THAT'S ALREADY SPENT, BUT WE UPDATE SCHEDULES AND BUDGETS REGULARLY. AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE SHOWING AGAINST $294 MILLION THE POTENTIAL FOR AN OVERAGE OF ABOUT $1.1 MILLION, AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THOSE NUMBERS. AND THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES. I ALWAYS LIKE TO TELL YOU ALL THAT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND UTILITY COORDINATION ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THE LEAST CONTROL OVER, AND THAT CONTINUES TO BE THE CASE. SO THE FIRST STEP, MARKETPLACE AVENUE, THAT IS THE PROJECT THAT WAS OUT TO BID AWARDED AND WILL SOON CELEBRATE A GROUNDBREAKING FOR, JUST LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE, IT WAS DELAYED TWO MONTHS, WE WORKED THROUGH A VIBE TRAIL REDESIGN. WORKING THROUGH SOME OUTSTANDING EASEMENTS, AND ARE ADDING A PRESSURIZED WATER LINE. BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID, THE ORIGINAL DELIVERY DATE WAS MARCH OF 2025, AND NOW THE NEW DELIVERY DATE IS MAY OF 2025. AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT WHEN I TELL YOU FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECTS THAT SOMETHING IS EITHER AHEAD OF SCHEDULE OR BEHIND, THAT IT'S COMPARED TO THE UPDATE WE DID EARLIER IN THE SPRING. BEEBE ROAD WEST. THIS IS THE PART OF BEEBE ROAD THAT GOES FROM THE I-35 FRONTAGE ROAD TO MORE OR LESS ABOUT WHERE REPUBLIC DRIVE
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IS. THIS ACTUALLY HAS BEEN EXPEDITED ABOUT ONE MONTH AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S, IT'S THE BID WHICH AFFECTS THE DELIVERY DATE. AND SO WHEN I TELL YOU THE CURRENT SCHEDULE, THE END DATE, IT'S WHEN WE EXPECT IT TO BE IN SERVICE. BUT THIS PROJECT WE'RE PROJECTING TO SAVE ABOUT A MONTH, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME DESIGN ISSUES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SOME DETENTION PONDS THAT ARE IN VERY CONSTRAINED AREAS, WHICH ALSO INCLUDE A RETAINING WALL DESIGNED FOR ONE OF THE PONDS. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT ONE MONTH EARLY COLLARS TO SEATON, WHICH IS THE OFF SYSTEM PROJECT THAT IS ON THE, OF COURSE, THE EAST SIDE OF I-35, AND IT GOES FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD THROUGH WHAT WE ALL KNOW TO BE THE CARAWAY TRACT DOWN TO SEATON, THIS ONE AS WELL. WE'RE PROJECTING IT TO BE DELIVERED ABOUT TWO MONTHS EARLY. THE ORIGINAL DELIVERY DATE WAS AUGUST OF 2026, AND THE PROJECTED DELIVERY DATE IS JUNE OF 2026. YOU KNOW, WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THIS ONE IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE WE DEVELOPED A SHARED WATER, A SHARED STORMWATER SYSTEM, TO COINCIDE WITH SOME PROJECTED DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT IS ALSO, COORDINATION WITH THE BEEBE ROAD PROJECT. IT WAS SOME DOING TO GET THOSE TWO PROJECTS ON THE SAME SCHEDULE SO THEY COULD BE DELIVERED TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE BEEBE ROAD WEST AND THE KOLOZOV SYSTEM ARE SEPARATE PROJECTS, THEY WILL HAVE TO FUNCTION TOGETHER. SO WE DID A LOT OF WORK TO GET THEM ON THE SAME TRACK. AND IT TURNS OUT WE'RE WE'RE PROJECTING TO DELIVER AGAIN, TO DELIVER BOTH OF THOSE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. BUTTON CREEK ROAD, THIS ONE HAS BEEN PUSHED OUT SIX MONTHS. THE ORIGINAL DELIVERY DATE WAS SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY OF 2027, AND NOW IT'S LOOKING LIKE JULY OF 2027. THIS PROJECT, THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES AND UNIQUE FEATURES, BUT BUNTON CREEK ROAD IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS WHERE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT UTILITY COORDINATION. THE CHALLENGES WITH UTILITY COORDINATION REMAIN NOT ONLY WORKING WITH EACH UTILITY, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT UTILITIES THEY ARE COORDINATED. THEY DON'T TRIP EACH OTHER. THEY THEY GET THE SPACE THEY NEED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEY'RE WELL ORGANIZED. AND THAT THERE IS ALSO SIGNIFICANT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND THOSE COMPLICATIONS OR POTENTIAL COMPLICATIONS HAVE US, RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, PROJECTING TO BE SIX MONTHS OUT, SIX CREEKS BOULEVAR.THIS IS PART OF WHAT I COMMONLY REFER TO AS THE OLD STAGECOACH ROAD FAMILY OF PROJECTS. THIS IS THE PIECE FROM 150. JACK HAYES TRAIL COMES IN THAT GOES TO OLD STAGECOACH ROAD. THIS ONE, THIS IS THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAD. BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON UPDATING THE SCHEDULE AND THAT IS BECAUSE, THE DISCUSSION WITH THE PRIMARY PROPERTY OWNER HAVE HAVE STOPPED AND THE DECISION WAS MADE TO REVERT BACK TO INSTEAD OF CROSSING A PROPERTY IS TO WIDEN AND IMPROVE THE EXISTING ROAD. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT CHANGE IN THE PROJECT, WE ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING A SCOPE TO DESIGN THE IMPROVEMENT AGAIN OF THE EXISTING ROAD AS OPPOSED TO DESIGNING A NEW ROAD. AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SAVE TIME AND TO GAIN SOME OF THE TIME BACK. ALTHOUGH WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE SCHEDULE IS GOING TO LAND. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GOING TO FOREGO WHAT WE CALL THE SCHEMATIC PHASE AND USE AN EARLY PHASE OF FINAL DESIGN AS THE PHASE OF WORK THAT WE REVIEW. AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY GATHERED THE DESIGN ENGINEERS HAVE ALREADY GATHERED SOME DATA THAT CAN BE REUSED. AND BECAUSE WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, AND ALSO BECAUSE IT'S A RELATIVELY SHORT ROAD IN TERMS OF DISTANCE, THERE'LL BE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS WE GET THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SCOPE FOR THIS PROJECT. THE NEXT PIECE IS THE OLD STAGECOACH ROAD PIECE. IT GOES ALL THE WAY FROM SIX CREEKS, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHERE, WHAT WE CALL THE OFF SYSTEM PART OF CENTER STREET.
THIS ONE WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE EXPEDITED BY THREE MONTHS. THE DELIVERY WAS GOING TO BE JANUARY OF 2028, THE BEGINNING OF 2028, AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT AT THE
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BEGINNING OF, WELL, IN SEPTEMBER OF 2027. THIS TOO, HAS SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES WITH REGARD TO UTILITY, COORDINATION AND SIGNIFICANT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. THERE ARE TWO RELOCATIONS OF FAMILIES, AND THERE IS ANOTHER, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION THAT INVOLVES, YOU KNOW, HELPING RELOCATE SOME PART OF A BUSINESS, A STORAGE AREA FOR CARS, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT WE SAW THAT COMING, AND WE WERE ABLE TO START THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PROCESS FOR THE PARCELS THAT INVOLVE RELOCATIONS EARLY, IT IS A PRETTY DETAILED PROCESS. AND THE OTHER REASON IS WE DIDN'T WANT TO RUSH THE PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGH ANYTHING WE WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO EASE INTO THE PROCESS, UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING. AND WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AND WE WERE ABLE TO STILL PROJECT THAT, WE CAN EXPEDITE THIS PART OF THE PROJECT BY ABOUT THREE MONTHS, THE LAST PART OF THAT FAMILY OF PROJECTS IS CENTER STREET, WHICH WE CALL THE OFF SYSTEM, WHICH AGAIN, OFF SYSTEM IS COMPARED TO A PORTION OF CENTER STREET. THAT'S THAT'S OWNED BY TXDOT, WHICH WE REFER TO AS IS OWN SYSTEM. THIS ONE, IT LOOKS LIKE, WE'RE BEGINNING TO BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE THIS BY ABOUT NINE MONTHS. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WHERE ALL THESE MAGICAL, YOU KNOW, MAGICIANS. BUT A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WHEN WE BROKE UP OLD STAGECOACH ROAD INTO THREE PIECES, AND SOME OF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE WAY THE PROJECT IS DEVELOPING. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, BUT INSTEAD OF DELIVERING IT AT THE END OF 2027, IN DECEMBER 2027, WE'RE NOW PROJECTING THAT WE CAN DO THAT IN MARCH. WE'RE STILL ALWAYS FOR THIS ONE, AS WELL.WORRIED ABOUT UTILITY COORDINATION AND RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM. THIS IS THE PART OF CENTER STREET THAT GOES FROM, YOU KNOW, WHERE 150 COMES IN AND DOWN, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT UP THE STREET HERE, THIS ONE IS GOOD NEWS, TOO. WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN EXPEDITE THAT DELIVERY DATE BY ABOUT FIVE MONTHS. THE ORIGINAL WAS IN JULY OF 2027, AND THE CURRENT SCHEDULE CALLS FOR IT TO BE DELIVERED. AT THE BEGINNING OF 2027. IN FEBRUARY, THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT EXPEDITED SCHEDULE, INCLUDE COORDINATION WITH TXDOT. NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT TXDOT IS NOT HELPING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS THEIR ROAD. THEY HAVE CERTAIN STANDARDS AND PROCESSES, AND THAT JUST TAKES TIME. AND SO PLEASE KNOW IT'S THE PROCESS, NOT NOT THE ORGANIZATION. AND THERE IS SIGNIFICANT UTILITY COORDINATION, YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY CONSTRAINED CORRIDOR. AND SO THAT THAT IS TAKING SOME TIME TO WORK THROUGH. BUT THE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND OUR TEAM HAVE A GOOD GRIP ON IT. AND WE STILL THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE THE SCHEDULE BY ABOUT FIVE MONTHS. THE NEXT PROJECT IS KYLE PARKWAY AND THE LEEMAN ROAD EXTENSION. AND THIS HAS BEEN PUSHED OUT BY ABOUT ONE MONTH FROM SEPTEMBER 2027 TO OCTOBER OF 2027. THE ADDITIONS, THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS PROJECT ARE THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL WATER LINE DESIGN AND ADDITIONAL WATER LINE CONSTRUCTION. THE COORDINATION WITH ARWA, AND THE COMPLICATION OF HOW TO PUT TOGETHER THE RIGHT OF WAY NEEDED FOR THE ROAD AS WELL AS FOR THE WATER LINE, FOR ARWA. AND A CITY WATER LINE IS TAKEN A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WE EXPECTED. IT'S ACTUALLY TAKEN LONGER THAN THE ONE MONTH OF DELAY, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE UP A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BY BY DOING OTHER THINGS. WINDY HILL ROAD THAT WAS PUSHED OUT ABOUT FOUR MONTHS THAT DELIVERY DATE WAS ORIGINALLY, OR AT LEAST FROM APRIL, SCHEDULED FOR JULY. I'M SORRY, JANUARY OF 2027. THE DELIVERY DATE IS NOW MAY OF 2027. THERE IS SIGNIFICANT UTILITY COORDINATION ON THIS. THERE ARE THREE AREAS OF WINDY HILL ROAD, ON THE WEST SIDE, JUST ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN ON THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT RIGHT OF WAY COORDINATION. THERE ARE NOT A THERE'S NOT A BIG NUMBER OF PARCELS, BUT THERE IS ONE MAJOR PARCEL THAT IS REQUIRING CLOSE COORDINATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND THAT JUST TAKES TIME. KOHLER SISSETON. THIS IS THE ON
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SYSTEM PORTION. THIS IS THE PART OF THE KOHLER SISSETON PROJECT WHERE THE CITY IS GOING TO WORK WITH TXDOT TO TAKE 35 OF THE INTERSTATE OVER, KOHLER'S. THERE IS NO CHANGE FROM WHEN WE REPORTED THIS BACK IN APRIL. THE DELIVERY DATE WAS SCHEDULED. OR IS ANTICIPATED TO BE OF OCTOBER 2029, AND THAT'S NOT CHANGED AGAIN, THE PROJECT CHALLENGES WE FACE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE TXDOT PROCESS. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT INVOLVES THE INTERSTATE, AND SO THERE'S ANOTHER LEVEL OF COORDINATION, BUT SOME OF THE PAPERWORK THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, WORK IN AND AROUND THE INTERSTATE HAS ALREADY BEEN PROCESSED AND THE DESIGN TEAM, THE GSA TEAM, AS WELL AS CITY STAFF CONTINUES COORDINATION WITH TXDOT. AND WE'RE AND WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SEE IF WE CAN SAVE THE TIME WITH THIS. AND SO HOPEFULLY NEXT TIME WE COME BACK FOR A BRIEFING, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE ONE THAT MOVES UP A BIT, BUT THIS IS THE PROJECT WITH THE LONGEST SCHEDULE. AND IT IS NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE OF THE TECHNICAL ISSUES, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST THE PROCESS ISSUES. SO ANY CHANCE WE GET TO SAVE SOME TIME, WE'LL WE'LL DO THAT. BEEBE ROAD EAST, THIS IS AGAIN THE PART FROM REPUBLIC DRIVE ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE EASTERN LIMITS, IT'S BEEN PUSHED OUT, PROJECTED TO BE PUSHED OUT A MONTH, WHICH IS FROM MAY 2029 TO JUNE OF 2029, WHICH IS PRETTY AMAZING BECAUSE I OFTEN SAY, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS INTERNALLY AS A TEAM, THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST COMPLICATED. THIS AND MAYBE BENTON CREEK, THEY TAKE TURNS, BUT THERE ARE OVER A DOZEN UTILITIES IN THIS CORRIDOR. IT'S VERY CONSTRAINED. WE ARE TRYING TO MINIMIZE, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS ON RIGHT OF WAY, MINIMIZE THE POTENTIAL FOR, FOR INTERRUPTING STRUCTURES AND HOMES, AND THE UTILITY COORDINATION IS, IS EXTREMELY DETAILED AND EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. THERE'S ALSO SIGNIFICANT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL, BUT JUST IN THE SHEER NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT HAS THE GREATEST NUMBER OF, OF PARCELS. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTING IT TO, TO BE A MONTH OUT. BUT THE THING TO REMEMBER IS, RIGHT, IT'S WE'RE WE'RE NEARING THE END OF 2024. 2029 IS FIVE YEARS OUT. THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN HAPPEN IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO TRY AND BRING SOMETHING IN. OUR JOB IS TO HAVE IT GO THIS WAY, AS OPPOSED TO BE PUSHED FURTHER OUT. SO NOW I'M GOING TO UPDATE YOU ON THE COST PROJECTIONS, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME RED, BUT REMEMBER THESE ARE CURRENT ALLOCATIONS, RIGHT, THEY ARE AGAIN WE UPDATE SCHEDULES REGULARLY WHEN WE HIT MILESTONES IN DESIGN OR WHEN WE WHEN WE LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND WE ALSO UPDATE BUDGETS REGULARLY AND SOMETIMES COSTS GO UP, SOMETIMES COSTS GO DOWN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE NUMBERS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE WILL CHANGE. WHAT I CAN'T TELL YOU IS WHETHER THE YOU KNOW WHICH WAY THEY'LL GO. BUT WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY, WE WORK ON THIS, AND WE DO A LITTLE BIT OF WORK ON THIS EVERY DAY. OUR JOB IS TO SEE IF WE CAN SAVE TIME AND SAVE MONEY. SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, OUR CURRENT COST PROJECTIONS, OBVIOUSLY THE PROJECTS ARE LISTED ON THE LEFT, WE'RE SHOWING THE ORIGINAL BUDGETS AND THE ORIGINAL CONTINGENCIES, AND THEN WHAT? THE CURRENT ENCUMBRANCES ARE AND THE PROJECTIONS. SO THAT'S A COMBINATION OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT OR ALLOCATED ON THE PROJECTS AND WHAT IS PROJECTED TO BE SPENT, LIKE THE CURRENT BUDGET TO COMPLETE. AND SO KOHLER SISSETON IS PROJECTED OR RIGHT NOW STILL HAS OVER $10 MILLION OF ITS ORIGINAL CONTINGENCY. BEEBE ROAD IS ABOUT 15 ON ITS WAY TO $16 MILLION OVER, AND THAT IS A COMBINATION OF THINGS WHICH I, YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK TO WHEN I GET THROUGH THE LIST. THE OLD STAGECOACH ROAD, CENTER STREET PROJECT, THE OFF SYSTEM PORTION IS PROJECTED TO BE RIGHT NOW A LITTLE BIT UNDER BUDGET BY ABOUT $2 MILLION. CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM IS PROJECTED TO BE A LITTLE BIT OVER KYLE PARKWAY. LEEMAN ROAD EXTENSION IS ABOUT $8.7 MILLION UNDER AS OF RIGHT NOW. MARKETPLACE AVENUE, THE BIDS WERE FAVORABLE. AND THEY CAME IN[01:00:09]
ABOUT $2.5 MILLION LESS THAN WE HAD BUDGETED. BUT THE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT MARKETPLACE IS IT'S JUST GOING TO CONSTRUCTION. AND WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS IF THERE WILL BE SOME COMPLICATIONS THAT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU START DIGGING, NOT TO SAY THAT THERE WILL BE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND. BUNTON CREEK ROAD IS, OVER $2.8 MILLION, PROJECTED TO BE OVER IN WINDY HILL, IS PROJECTED TO BE OVER BY ABOUT, A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN $100,000. AND WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE ABOUT $1.1 MILLION BEYOND THE CURRENT BUDGETS, BEYOND WHAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR CONTINGENCY.AGAINST THE $294 MILLION PROJECT BOND. THAT IS, I THINK, BY LOTS OF MEASURES, WE WOULD BE YOU COULD SAY THAT WE'RE JUST ABOUT ON BUDGET. BUT THE THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO, UTILITY COORDINATION AGAIN, IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORRY ABOUT. AND WE TRY AND STAY ON TOP OF AND THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IS, IS, IS THE THING. YOU KNOW, WE WORRY ABOUT THE MOST, AS THE APPRAISALS COME IN AND SOME PLACES THEY'RE, THEY'RE LESS THAN WE EXPECTED AND SOME PLACES THEY ARE MORE. AND THAT IS WHAT WE, THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST AREA WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL. I CAN COME BACK TO THIS WHEN I'M DONE, IF YOU'D LIKE. SO AGAIN, I DID HAVE A QUICK. OH, YES. YES. I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, BUT JUST TO JUMP IN ALL THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN BIDDED FOR CONSTRUCTION. NO, SIR. ONLY ONLY MARKETPLACE HAS BEEN. THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE MAKING THEIR WAY THROUGH DESIGN, SO IT'LL BE SOME TIME. SO IS THERE ENOUGH FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION BID? STILL, IN SOME OF THESE, THERE'S NO MORE MONEY LEFT OUT OF THE ALLOCATIO. RIGHT. SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOT TO THE CONSTRUCTION BID AMOUNT.
RIGHT? OKAY. SO IF NOTHING HAPPENED RIGHT. IF NOTHING IF THE PROGRAM DIDN'T CATCH ANY BREAKS AND IF NOTHING GOT, IF NOTHING CHANGED IN TERMS OF THINGS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE, THE CITY WOULD NEED TO, YOU KNOW, KICK IN, FIND $1.1 MILLION. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT NUMBER WILL WILL CHANGE. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO GO TOWARD THE POSITIVE OR TOWARD THE NEGATIVE. IT COULD BE THAT WHEN SOMETHING GOES TO BID, YOU GET A BREAK, LIKE WOULD HAPPEN WITH MARKETPLACE, RIGHT. AND BID COMES IN FAVORABLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD TIME OF YEAR OR COSTS HAVE COME DOWN AND THEN YOU START TO SAVE, YOU KNOW, MONEY THAT WAY, OR IT COULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, THINGS HAPPEN IN THE MARKETPLACE THAT CAUSE CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS TO GO HIGHER, LABOR TO GO HIGHER. AND, YOU KNOW, A BID COMES IN HIGHER THAN EXPECTED. BUT AGAIN, AND I KNOW I SAID THIS SEVERAL TIMES, THE DESIGN ENGINEERS AND OUR TEAM REGULARLY UPDATE THE COST ESTIMATES. AND WHEN THEY DO IT, THEY DO BUILD IN A LITTLE BIT FOR INFLATION. AND THEY DO LOOK AT OTHER PROJECTS AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY BIDDING AT, RIGHT, TO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE COSTING AND HOW LONG THINGS ARE TAKING. THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER IS DESIGN GOES ON. THE FURTHER YOU GET THROUGH DESIGN, THE MORE PREDICTABILITY YOU HAVE. AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO, FOR EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, GIVE A HIGHER DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE AS WE GET THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO BETTER ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT ONE POINT, ONE NUMBER OR NOT. IF AND I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY I THINK IT'S B IS THE BIGGEST OUTLIER RIGHT OUT OF ALL THE ROADS PROJECTS OF WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR CONTINGENCY AND YOUR INITIAL AMOUNT. SO IT'S KIND OF IT'S DRIVING UP A LOT OF THE, THE NUMBERS. RIGHT. AND BEBE, THERE WAS A LOT OF, EXTRA SCOPE, RIGHT. THAT WENT INTO THE DESIGN A FEW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH AGAIN, DRAINAGE. RIGHT THE, THE DRAINAGE ON THAT PROJECT IS PRETTY COMPLICATED. THERE'S A WETLAND, NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM REPUBLIC DRIVE BEFORE THAT FIRST SHARP TURN, THERE WAS A FLOODPLAIN. THE AREA THAT WAS SET ASIDE BY THE DEVELOPMENT, BY THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR RETENTION, FOR DRAINAGE, RETENTION WAS NOT ADEQUATE TO TAKE ALL THE DRAINAGE FROM THE SITE. AND SO THAT REQUIRED LIKE DEEPER DESIGN. THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT WENT INTO IT. IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE THE COSTS, YOU KNOW, WENT OUT OF
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CONTROL OR WE WEREN'T MANAGING THE DESIGN COSTS. IT'S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ADDED THINGS TO ENHANCE THE PROJECT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAFE FOR THE COMMUNITY. IN THIS CASE, A LOT WENT INTO THE DRAINAGE TO MAKE SURE THE SITE CAN FUNCTION CORRECTLY. A LOT WENT INTO THE DRAINAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROAD WOULD FUNCTION CORRECTLY, AND A LOT HONESTLY WENT INTO MAKING SURE THAT WE COULD MEET THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS FOR WETLANDS AND FOR THE FLOODPLAIN. AND THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. A LOT OF ANALYSIS. AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S GOING TO IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT THAT THAT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR. WELL WHAT WHAT HAPPENED THERE. SORRY, SORRY. YOU COULD KEEP THAT PRESENTATION GOING PLEASE JOE.SURE. I KNOW A LOT OF US HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS IS JUST SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF A WRAP UP. I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW WE'RE PROJECTED TO BE ABOUT $1.1 MILLION BEYOND OUR CONTINGENCY. I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT. KEEP IN MIND, BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY ENCOURAGED BY MARKETPLACE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT THAT UNDER AMOUNT WILL DECREASE OR INCREASE UNTIL WE GET TO THE END OF CONSTRUCTION, AND AGAIN, AND I THINK THIS IS THE FOURTH TIME WE'RE VERY CONSCIOUS AND, AND TRACK VERY CLOSELY WHAT UTILITY COORDINATION IS GOING TO TAKE.
AND COSTS. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRACKING AND OUR CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION COSTS. AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON RIGHT OF WAY AND UTILITY. COORDINATION, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS WE START THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PROCESS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE, WE CONTINUE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH GETTING THE PROJECTS THROUGH FINAL DESIGN, WE'RE STEPPING UP OUR COORDINATION EFFORTS, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR BLESSING, WITH TXDOT FOR THE ON SYSTEM PROJECTS AND JUST AS SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF A SIDE NOTE WHERE, CONTINUING, YOU KNOW, OUR SERIES OF, OF OUTREACH EVENTS, AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE ONE TOMORROW NIGHT, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER FOR THE PROJECT. AND THAT'S IT FOR THE PRESENTATION. I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE CLARIFICATION. SO THAT WAY THE RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UTILITY COORDINATION. SO LET'S START WITH BEEBE WEST, OF COURSE WE'RE GOING BY THE SCHEDULE, WHICH KIND OF MAKES ME FEEL A LITTLE COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE JUST A MONTH BEHIND BECAUSE, I MEAN, THESE ARE LIKE DECADES OF ROADS THAT NEED TO BEEN FIXED. SO WHEN YOU'RE MENTIONING THAT WE'RE RUNNING A MONTH BEHIND OR A DELAY OR MAYBE 3 OR 4, I FEEL A LITTLE BIT COMFORTABLE ON THAT. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEEBE WEST COLORS, BUNTING CREEK ROAD, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UTILITY COORDINATION, THAT HAS TO DO WITH PRETTY MUCH THE ELECTRICAL POLES. CORRECT. SO IF WE TRY IF YOU GUYS, EVERYBODY DRIVES DOWN THOSE ROADS AND YOU SEE THIS BIG OLD T TOWERS OF UTILITY POLES, THOSE EVENTUALLY WOULD HAVE TO COME DOWN AND BE BURIED, CORRECT. YEAH. YES COUNCIL MEMBER ONE OF THE METRICS OR THE STANDARDS THAT COUNCIL AND STAFF HAVE SET FOR THE PROGRAM IS TO BURY UTILITIES, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE ABOVE GROUND TO BURY THEM. AND THAT OFFERS A SERIES OF COMPLICATIONS. YEAH. AND ONE OF THE COMPLICATIONS IS YOU CAN'T PUT THE BURIED UTILITY WHERE THE OVERHEAD UTILITIES ARE. YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SEPARATE LANE. SO THAT TAKES THAT THAT INTRODUCES SOME COMPLICATIONS FOR RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. THE OTHER COMPLICATION IS THAT THEY ARE STILL EXPERIENCING SHORTAGES OF EQUIPMENT. AND WITH THE CITY'S MANAGER'S BLESSING, WE'VE OFFERED TO TRY AND BE A LITTLE BIT CREATIVE WITH THEM. LIKE, COULD THEY STOCKPILE EQUIPMENT? OR THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF DESIGN TO MINIMIZE SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT. SO SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST THE NATURE OF BURYING UTILITIES. SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY USE TO BURY THE UTILITIES. AND SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST GETTING IN LINE. RIGHT. THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES THAT NEED THE UTILITIES ATTENTION RIGHT ALL OVER. YOU KNOW, THE REGION AND THE WAY WE DO THAT IS WE MEET WITH THEM REGULARLY. WE COORDINATE. WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM ON WINDY HILL LAST WEEK TO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. WE HAD A BRIEF PHONE CALL WITH THEM THIS MORNING TO TALK THROUGH THE REST OF THE PROGRAM, WE TRY TO GET THEM TO REVIEW THINGS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE TO SAVE SOME OF THEIR DESIGN TIME, BUT IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS A DIRECT RESULT OF BEING OF WANTING TO BURY THE UTILITIES TO ADD SOME
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ESTHETIC VALUE TO THE PROJECTS, IN ADDITION TO THE FUNCTIONAL VALUE THAT COMES ALONG WITH IMPROVING THE ROADS AND MAKING THEM SAFER. YES, SIR. BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEEBE ROAD, IF YOU DRIVE THAT EVERY DAY, IT'S THOSE THOSE ELECTRICAL POLES THAT ARE THAT GOT TO BE BURIED AND GOING BACK TO BUNTING CREEK ROAD. I KNOW MR, COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA, YOU MADE A VIDEO TODAY ABOUT THE ROADS AND THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. I JUST SEE DRIVING THAT ON OCCASION. NOW, I THINK ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS THAT HUGE, HUGE METAL ELECTRICAL POLE OR TOWER THAT'S LIKE, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF LAYMAN AND BENTON, IS THAT GOING TO HAVE TO BE BURIED AS WELL, OR IS THAT GOING TO HAVE TO BE JUST SOME KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE STAGECOACH TREE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND IT BECAUSE, I MEAN, THAT THING IS HUGE. SO I'M STARTING TO DREAM ABOUT, ELECTRICAL POLES. YEAH. I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT ONE. YEAH, IT'S RIGHT THERE. IT'S THERE. IT'S.BUT OF COURSE, YOU GOT POLES THAT GO ALL THE WAY DOWN, SO IT'S JUST GETTING THE RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND. I KNOW THAT WE PASSED THIS IN 2022, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SO EAGER TO GET THESE ROADS GOING. AND THEY'RE SAYING, WHEN IS CONSTRUCTION STARTING? AT LEAST IT GIVES US NOW A TIMELINE. WOULD YOU JUST PRESENT IT AGAIN? I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, WHICH YOU'RE PREDICTING PROJECTING IS A MONTH OR MAYBE THREE MONTHS BEHIND, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATES, THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH IN SYNC WITH ABOUT 2 OR 3 YEARS OF EACH OTHER. SO IT'S AGAIN PREPARING THE CITY OF KYLE, THE RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE ABOUT READY TO START DOING SOME SERIOUS ROAD CONSTRUCTION ON ALL THESE ROADS. THEY'RE GOING TO HIT AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE NEED TO GET READY FOR THAT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ON THE UTILITY COORDINATION WHEN BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT'S STATED IN THERE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THAT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY BURYING ALL THE ELECTRICAL POLES AND WI-FI POLES AND ANYTHING ELSE. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. COUNCIL MEMBER IS THAT MOST OF US, WE SEE THE POLES AND WE SEE A WIRE ON IT. BUT MANY OF THOSE POLES, THEY NOT ONLY CARRY ELECTRIC WHEN YOU SEE DIFFERENT LEVELS, BUT THEY MAY CARRY 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT, LIKE INTERNET PROVIDERS. YEP, AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE COMPLICATION COMES IN. IT'S WE'RE REALLY FACILITATORS. AND ORGANIZERS OF THE UTILITIES.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT DOES NOTHING BUT TALK TO THE UTILITY COMPANIES TO HELP KEEP THEM IN ORDER AND WORKING TOGETHER. SO WE DON'T GET IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE DISAGREEING AND SLOWING US DOWN. YES. WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, BECAUSE IF YOUR WI-FI GOES DOWN WHEN WE'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION, IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU JOE. APPRECIATE IT. I YIELD MAYOR PRO TEM. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILOR PARSLEY. SO THAT CONTINGENCY WE KNEW I KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO RUN OUT OF IT QUICKLY. WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING DESIGN AND WORKING ROAD CONSTRUCTION FOR A WHILE THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FACING AND IF WE HAD TO, WHAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU WOULD DO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO STICK TO THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE? LIKE, WHERE WOULD YOU START CUTTING INTO THEM THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT? WELL, THIS IS GOING TO I WOULD FIRST SAY THAT IS IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WORRY AND WE'RE NOT CONCERNED, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. BUT I WOULD WE WOULD LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE WHERE WE'RE BURYING UTILITIES IS THE COST OF BURYING UTILITIES WORTH THE BENEFIT FROM IT? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE MAY BE AREAS OF PROJECTS WHERE THE VISUAL IMPACT OF BURYING OF REMOVING THREE POLES IS NOT THAT GREAT, BUT THE REMOVING THE THREE POLES AND BURYING THE UTILITIES IS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. SO, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT MIGHT BE OUT OF WHACK WITH THE COST. THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PLACE WE WOULD LOOK AND ACTUALLY WE ARE EVALUATING RIGHT NOW, OUR UTILITY COORDINATOR HAS IDENTIFIED A COUPLE OF AREAS WHERE THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE, NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACT ON THEM IMMEDIATELY, BUT JUST SO WE'RE PREPARED FOR IF WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS, AND IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE BECAUSE OF MONEY, IT MIGHT BE BECAUSE OF TIME. RIGHT. BUT I THINK UTILITY COORDINATION WOULD BE ONE PLACE, IF AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH DESIGN, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAYBE MODIFY THE DESIGN A LITTLE BIT WITHOUT CHANGING THE INTENDED FUNCTION OF THE ROAD TO SAVE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. WE WOULD DO THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID FOR BEEBE ROAD NEAR THE WETLAND AND FLOODPLAIN AREA, IS THEY NARROWED THE SECTION JUST A TINY BIT TO AVOID HAVING TO GET INTO A PROLONGED PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE REGULATING AGENCIES, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAVE A
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TON OF MONEY, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT SAVES A TON OF TIME. AND IN A WAY, IT SAVES MONEY BECAUSE THINGS JUST GET MORE EXPENSIVE, RIGHT? SO WE WOULD GO TO UTILITY COORDINATION FIRST. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SAVE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN BEYOND THAT, IF WE REALLY HAD TO AND WE WERE DIRECTED TO DO SO, WE WOULD SEE ABOUT MAYBE MODIFYING THE PROJECTS AND MAYBE SHORTENING THE LENGTH OR DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT LESS. BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO WHEN THE BUDGETS START COMING IN AND WE START TAKING MORE THINGS TO BID, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT. WELL I REMEMBER OUR FIRST TALKS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND TALKING ABOUT THE CONTINGENCY, AND I THINK THAT MICHAEL AND I PROBABLY HAVE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF THAT CONTINGENCY REALLY QUICK. AND I'M JUST SEEING IT HAPPENING, AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED CONSTRUCTING. SO THAT'S WHAT MY BIGGEST WORRY IS, IS I KNOW YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT MONEY, AND BECAUSE LIKE, WHAT DO WE TELL THE RESIDENTS, HEY, WE MIGHT NEED TO GO INTO ANOTHER BOND FOR ANOTHER $10 MILLION BECAUSE WE ARE SHORT. OR DOES IT COME OUT OF GENERAL FUND OR WHERE ARE WE GOING TO? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET IT FROM? BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND IT'S EARLY. YES. THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THE PROJECTED DEPLETION, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A DEPLETION YET OF THE CONTINGENCY. RIGHT. THE CURRENT BUDGETS AND THE CURRENT PROJECTED DEPLETION MOSTLY HAS TO DO WITH THINGS THAT WE'VE ALL ADDED TO ENHANCE THE PROJECTS. RIGHT. LIKE UTILITY, LIKE GROUNDING UTILITIES. BUT BUT ALSO LIKE MAKING SURE THAT THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM WORKS PROPERLY, OR MAYBE DOING TAKING ON A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IMPROVE WHAT HAPPENS IN AND AROUND A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ADDED THE FIFTH LANE TO BUNTON CREEK ROAD. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER EARLY ON, BECAUSE WE WERE WORRIED THAT THE TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS WERE ON THE BORDER, SO WE DECIDED, RIGHT, COUNCIL DECIDED TO LET US ADD THE FIFTH LANE BECAUSE WE WANTED THE PROJECT TO LAST LONGER. MOST OF WHAT HAS GONE INTO EATING THE CONTINGENCY, RIGHT? SOME OF IT HAS TO DO WITH PROJECTED COSTS, BUT A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH MOST, IF NOT MOST OF IT WITH JUST ADDING ENHANCEMENTS TO PROJECTS TO MAKE THEM EITHER MORE VISUALLY APPEALING OR TO MAKE THEM FUNCTION BETTER, OR TO SOLVE A RELATED PROBLEM. SO IT.I KNOW WE HAVE TO BE COST CONSCIOUS, BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ADDING VALUE FOR HAVING EATEN THROUGH THE CONTINGENCY TO THIS POINT. OKAY JUST TO ADD A COUPLE OF THINGS, WE KNEW THIS WOULD BE CONCERNING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RED. RED'S NEVER GOOD. BUT JOE AND I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT HOW TO PRESENT THIS TO THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. AND I DO AGREE WITH HIS COMMENTS. JUST IT'S REALLY JUST TOO EARLY TO MAKE SOME OF THESE PROJECTIONS. WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THE PROJECTIONS WE HAVE, BUT LESS THAN 5% OF THE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT. THE REST OF THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU OUR BEST NUMBERS OR MOST ACCURATE NUMBERS. WE COME BACK TO YOU FREQUENTLY. WE'LL KEEP YOU UP TO SPEED ON THAT, THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT LEVERS TO PULL. IF WE END UP BEING OVER BUDGET, WE CAN FIND WAYS TO FUND ADDITIONAL PROJECT MONEY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. OR WE CAN MAKE COST REDUCTIONS. AS JOE SAID, SOME OF THE UTILITIES IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE EASIEST WAYS TO DO THAT.
WE'VE ALSO ASKED SOME OF THE PROJECTS TO TAKE ON MORE COST THAN WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED, SO ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE HAD WAS OFF. OFF SYSTEM FOR COLAS AS PART OF THE PROJECT INCENTIVE THAT WE HAD FOR THE CARRAWAY DEVELOPMENT, THE NEW QUEST DEVELOPMENT, WE PAID MORE FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO DO. WE MADE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION TO TAKE THAT OUT OF THESE PROJECT FUNDS, BUT THOSE COULD HAVE COME OUT OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS OR ANOTHER SOURCE WE'VE SHOWN THEM HERE. SO THEY'RE KIND OF EMBEDDED IN THAT. BUT IF YOU WERE TO BREAK THAT OUT, THAT'D BE ANOTHER SAVINGS THAT WOULD MAKE THIS POSITIVE. SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S EARLY. WE WANT TO JUST KEEP YOU UP TO SPEED WITH WHERE WE ARE. BUT AGAIN, MARKETPLACE DID COME IN UNDER BUDGET, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD THING. I CAN'T SAY THAT IT WILL HAPPEN ON EVERY SINGLE PROJECT, BUT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK, FOR EACH OF THESE TO SEE WHERE WE END UP AND WE'LL KNOW MORE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD. SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS. BUT WE DID WANT TO GIVE YOU OUR BEST ESTIMATES OF WHERE WE ARE. GORDON JOE, I REMEMBER WERE YOU DONE? YES I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID START AND THEN THERE WAS A STRATEGY OF GOING FOR ALL 6 OR 7 AND TRYING TO WORK THEM THROUGH, WHAT WOULD WE HAVE BEEN? I GUESS FURTHER ALONG BY FOCUSING ON, LIKE ONE AND GET IT DONE. I REMEMBER THAT USED TO BE A CONVERSATION LIKE, COULD WE GET 1 OR 2 DONE? THEN WE MOVE TO THE OTHERS. I KNOW THIS IS TOO LATE TO GO BACK TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK SO. COUNCIL MEMBER WE'D STILL BE IN THE SAME PLACE, RIGHT? REMEMBER THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGER AND
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THERE'S A GSE TEAM, RIGHT? THAT HELPS PUSH THESE ALONG. AND SO BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE USING, 8 OR 9 DIFFERENT DESIGN TEAMS TO GET THESE PROJECTS DONE. SO, THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE MULTITASKING. THEY'RE WELL, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT FIRMS BASICALLY DESIGNING ALL, ALL THE PROJECTS.SO IT'S NOT ONE FIRM HAVING TO DIVERT THEIR ATTENTION FROM THIS PROJECT TO THIS PROJECT. AND I THINK REALLY, BECAUSE THE CITY TOOK THAT APPROACH WAS, YOU KNO, WHICH WAS TO SELECT A DESIGN FIRM FOR EACH PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ALL MOVING AS QUICKLY AS THEY THEY COULD MOVE, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IF YOU PICKED ONE OFF. OKAY. I JUST HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME. Y'ALL FINISH ONE FIRST AND START ANOTHER, START ANOTHER, BUT GO AHEAD. WELL, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS MADE THE POINT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, GET READY BECAUSE IF THESE ALL MAINTAIN SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FUN CONSTRUCTION GOING ON. AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WHAT BRIAN JUST SAID IS ONE OF THE KEYS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR. THESE ESTIMATES ARE BASED ON ONLY 5% OF THIS PROJECT. MONEY HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SPENT. SO WE'RE A LONG WAY OFF. AND JOE KEEPS SAYING WE WORK ON THESE NUMBERS EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PLACE SOME FAITH IN YOU THAT YOU ARE STAYING ON TOP OF THAT, WITH ONLY 5% GONE, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO ESTIMATE. BUT THAT WAS PART OF OUR CONTRACT. WAS THAT THESE NUMBERS WOULD BE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT JOE, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'M LOOKING AT IS WHEN WE WENT TO BOND, WE LOOK AT TIME, RIGHT. WE LOOK AT, MATERIAL COSTS GOING UP. SO WHEN WE GO TO BOND WE HAVE ESTIMATES ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND I THINK RIGHT NOW THE REASON THAT WE'RE OVER IS BECAUSE OF TIME. I MEAN, WE'VE WE'VE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN LEADERSHIP CHANGES HERE AT THE CITY, BOTH ON THE DAIS AND THROUGH STAFF AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE PUT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS BEHIND. BUT WHAT I'M ASKING RIGHT NOW IS LET'S MOVE THEM UP. LET'S DO EVERYTHING WE CAN IN OUR PART, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FURTHER ALONG, AND I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF COMBINATIONS THAT ARE DRAGGING US DOWN. SO WHAT I'M ASKING NOW IS TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN IN YOUR POWER TO GET THESE TEAMS TO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE TIME IS THE ENEMY. THESE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO INFLATE WITH TIME. I MEAN, JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE DOCK STRIKE. I MEAN, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO TO US RIGHT NOW WITH MATERIAL? I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT STRIKE IS GOING TO TAKE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO ADD AN ADDED COST TO US AS WELL. SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BREAK THIS TIME DOWN FURTHER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO START THESE PROJECTS SOONER THAN ANTICIPATED, BECAUSE THE LONGER THAT THESE PROJECTS TAKE, THE MORE THAT THE PRICES OF LABOR MATERIAL, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GO UP. I MEAN, SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BREAK THESE NUMBERS DOWN. WE NEED TO START DOING MORE TO TRY TO GET THAT TIMELINE FURTHER. A MONTH. I THINK IT'S NOT A MONTH THAT WE'RE BEHIND. I THINK IT'S ALMOST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR. AND I THINK IT'S NOT I'M NOT PUTTING ALL THE BLAME ON YOU. I THINK THERE WAS SOME BLAME HERE ON THE CITY AS WELL WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES. SO WHAT I'M SAYING NOW IS THAT AS A TEAM, ALL OF US NEED TO START MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MOVE THESE TIMELINES UP FURTHER, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MONTH, I THINK IT'S A LOT MORE THAN A MONTH IN MY THING. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS.
BUT I'M LIKE, I TELL YOU, I'M NOT PUTTING THE BLAME ON YOU SOLELY. I THINK IT'S ALL OF US TOGETHER, COLLECTIVELY, SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING MORE TO GET THESE TIMELINES DOWN, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE WHEN WE WENT TO BOND, WE LOOKED AT RISING COSTS TO NOW BE OVER. I'M IT'S REALLY CONCERNING TO ME. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING, BRIAN, AS A CITY TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS COME FORWARD AND BRING THEM IN A TIMELY MANNER BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEHIND SCHEDULE. I MEAN, NOT BY A MONTH. I THINK IT'S HALF A YEAR AT THE MINIMUM.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY TO GET THESE PROJECTS MOVING, BECAUSE THE LONGER THESE PROJECTS MOVE, THE MORE WE'RE GOING TO BE PULLING OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND.
AND WE DID ANTICIPATE THE RISING COSTS. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT ADDING PROJECTS AND MAKING PROJECTS WIDER BUT GRANDER. BUT I STILL THINK THAT TIME IS OUR KILLER RIGHT NOW, AND WE GOT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MINIMIZE THAT TIME AND EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO FOR US. JOE, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER HAUSER, TWO THINGS. JOE, WHEN'S THE NEXT TIME WE'LL GET AN UPDATE? OH, I THINK WE TRY AND COME BACK, LIKE, EVERY QUARTER, BUT WE COULD. WE COULD PUSH THAT OUT.
WE CAN BRING IT IN. WHATEVER. WHATEVER YOU NEED. OKAY. AND, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, LIKE, IS THERE ONE THING YOU'VE LEARNED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH US THAT MIGHT HELP US REST A LITTLE EASIER, SEEING THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND WITH THE BUDGETS AND THE TIMELINES. SURE. I SHOULD HAVE GONE TO THE MEDICAL SCHOOL. NO, I'LL ACCEPT THAT AS AN
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ANSWER. NO, IT, I NEEDED TO DO THAT SO I COULD THINK OF AN ANSWER. YOU KNOW, WE LEARN A LITTLE BIT EVERY DAY. IF WE DID THIS UP THE ROAD OR DOWN THE ROAD, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PROCESS. BUT I WON'T SAY THAT WE'VE LEARNED, BUT WHAT WE'VE ADAPTED TO. MAYOR PRO TEM POINT, LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID MONTHS AGO WAS WE WERE APPROACHING RIGHT PROJECT, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT ALL THE PARCELS AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PICK THE PROJECT THAT WE THOUGHT OF BUYING RIGHT AWAY FROM, FIRST WE MADE A VERY SIMPLE AND QUICK DECISION TO GO TO START THEM ALL AND, AND DEAL WITH THE ONES THAT WERE MOST COMPLICATED. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT, BUT WE'RE SAVING LOTS OF TIME AND WE HOPE TO SAVE EVEN MORE TIME BY STARTING THE MORE COMPLICATED PARCELS FIRST, RIGHT WHERE THERE'S MAYBE A BUILDING OR A RELOCATION. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING WE'VE LEARNED, IS THAT WE SORT OF BEGGED THE UTILITIES TO START TALKING TO US AT 60% OF COMPLETED PLANS, AS OPPOSED TO BEING AT 90%, THAT IS WORKING.WE'RE STARTING TO GAIN SOME SPEED WITH THE UTILITIES, THE RELATIONSHIP PART OF THE UTILITY CHALLENGE IS, IS, IS, IS RESOLVED. AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM TO SEE IF WE CAN FIX THE DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR EQUIPMENT FOREVER CHALLENGE. SO WE HAVE LEARNED, YOU KNOW, AND ADAPTED TO EARLY COORDINATION FOR RIGHT AWAY AND EARLY COORDINATION FOR UTILITIES. THE OTHER THING WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT IT IS OUR I WOULDN'T SAY LEARNED. WE'VE KNOWN IT, BUT WE STAY ON TOP OF IS WE ARE IN CONVERSATION ALMOST EVERY SINGLE DAY WITH THE DESIGN ENGINEERS. I MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO DOES NOTHING BUT COORDINATE WITH THE UTILITY COMPANIES. WE ALSO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT DOES NOTHING BUT TRACK THE SCHEDULES THAT THE DESIGN ENGINEERS ARE DOING, AND IF THEY START TO SLIP BY A DAY, OUR CORRIDOR MANAGER KNOWS AND WE START SENDING EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT IS THAT'S ALSO HELPING US. SO I THINK THE BIG MESSAGE COUNCIL MEMBER IS EVERY SINGLE DAY WE WORK ON THIS AND EVERY SINGLE DAY WE LOOK FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE TIME AND MONEY, AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, THE VERY BEST WE CAN. SO WHAT I'M WHAT I'M CHOOSING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT IS THAT THE NEXT TIME YOU PRESENT TO US, WE MIGHT BE CLOSER TO BEING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, TO THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE, AND CLOSER TO BEING ON BUDGET. CORRECT, I KNOW YOU CANNOT MAKE THAT PROMISE, SO IT'S ONLY IT'S ONLY I MEAN, MY JOB IS TO BE HONEST. RIGHT. AND YOU UP, JOE. YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK. I WOULD RATHER GET LAUGHED AT OR YELLED AT AND THEN. BUT BE HONEST, WE JUST KNOW THAT A COUPLE OF THE PROJECTS JUST BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE TECHNICAL ISSUES ARE GOING TO TAKE LONGER, RIGHT? I WISH I COULD TELL YOU THAT WE COULD BRING BACK A YEAR, BUT I WOULD BE I WOULD I WOULD BE LYING TO YOU NOW, NOW MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WE CAN ACCELERATE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN SAVE SOME TIME ON, ON WINDY HILL OR EVEN SAVE, YOU KNOW, TIME ON HAVING TO REDO THAT. SIX CREEKS. I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, ONE OTHER THING IS OUR COORDINATION WITH TXDOT. WE'VE REALLY ESTABLISHED STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH TXDOT. IN FACT, WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING JUST LAST WEEK. AND THEY GAVE US SOME REALLY GOOD SUGGESTIONS OF HOW TO IMPROVE THE TIME TIMELINESS OF THE COLLARS ON SYSTEM PROJECTS. SO THE ONE UNDER 35, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE EXACT DETAILS OF WHAT THAT WILL MEAN, BUT MAYBE COMBINING SOME OF THEIR PROCESSES WILL REDUCE THE TIME, POTENTIALLY UP TO A YEAR ON THAT PROJECT. WE'RE NOT READY TO SAY THAT FOR CERTAIN, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE HOPEFUL FOR.
ALSO, THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH US ON ALL THE OTHER ON SYSTEM PROJECTS, I THINK WAS REALLY POSITIVE. BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WILL PLAY OUT AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU GOOD, YOU KNOW, QUALITY UPDATES ON THAT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND THEN HAVE A BETTER SCHEDULE. BUT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT THE AT THE MOMENT. JOE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WE APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU JOE. ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE RECEIVE REPORT AND HOLD
[9) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding Project Sahara.]
DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING PROJECTS. O'HARA MELISSA MCCALL. THANK YO.[01:30:01]
THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MELISSA MCCOLLUM. CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER THIS IS AN EXCITING PROJECT THAT WE HAVE. THERE'S NO ACTION, TONIGHT REQUIRED FOR THIS ITEM. HOWEVER, IT IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO REALLY KIND OF SEE THE PREQUEL OF THIS PROJECT. IT'S TITLED PROJECT SAHARA OR THE GROVE, IT IS A PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY IN OUR ETJ. THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT ANNEXING AND COMING INTO THE CITY LIMITS, THEY ARE LOOKING AT A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES, ON THIS PROPERTY AND IT WILL BE COMBINED WITH MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS. SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT ANNEXING INTO THE CITY, DOING A POD ZONING, HAVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD COME ALONG WITH IT CONCURRENTLY, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR SOME FINANCING MECHANISMS, A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND A TOURIST CREATION. AND I HAD ON HERE THAT POTENTIALLY THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT A 380, BUT THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT AT THIS TIME. SO THAT IS AN, AN APPLICATION THAT WOULD RUN CONCURRENTLY TO, BUT THAT IS NOT LOOKED AT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THIS TRACT, YOU CAN SEE, WHERE IT'S LOCATED, IT'S BETWEEN 150 AND 158. IT IS THE TRACT THAT'S KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED THERE IN THAT TURQUOISE TYPE COLOR. AND, THAT'S WHERE IT'S LOCATED, SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ABBY AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. THEY HAVE SOME SLIDES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU, REALLY KIND OF FOCUSING AND HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO REALLY ENGAGE AND DISCUSS ON THIS PROJECT. THANKS, MR. I THINK JUST THANK YOU. THANKS GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. ABIGAIL PHELAN, WITH LIONHEART PLACES, URBAN DESIGN AND PLANNING FIRM OUT OF AUSTIN. REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO YOU ALL, I'M REPRESENTING STREAMLINE, ADVISORY PARTNERS.WHO IS THE DEVELOPER ON THE PROJECT OF THIS APPROXIMATELY 100 ACRE SITE THAT STAFF INTRODUCED. AND, WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY DILIGENTLY OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS ON THIS PROJECT TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH STAFF AS WELL AS WITH STAKEHOLDERS TO REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS SITE AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS FROM LAND USE, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE PERSPECTIVE, AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL. WE DO HAVE OUR ENTIRE TEAM HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND, WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. SO THIS IS OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE PROJECT. AND, I'LL BE GOING THROUGH OOPS. THERE'S MY, SLIDE I'LL BE GOING THROUGH TONIGHT. JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LOCATION AND CONTEXT. WHAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THIS PART OF TOWN, AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOW WE'VE BUILT THAT INTO OUR PROJECT GOALS FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, THEN I'LL BE HITTING ON A FEW KEY COMMUNITY BENEFITS, AND THEN I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO ZACH WITH DFG TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FINANCING DISTRICT. SO TO START OFF, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED ABOUT ONE AND A HALF TO TWO MILES FROM DOWNTOWN KYLE, IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF FM 150, IT'S IN THE ETJ, BUT IS SORT OF WRAPPED BY THE CITY LIMITS, A BIT OF A DONUT HOLE. AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THAT INTO THE CITY LIMITS, IT IS ONE WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ONE OF THE LAST LARGE, UNDEVELOPED AND UNPLANNED TRACTS OF LAND THAT STILL RELATIVELY CLOSE IN TO THE DOWNTOWN OVER ON ON FM 150, IT WAS DESIGNATED AS A REGIONAL COMMERCIAL CENTER ON THE CITY'S RECENTLY APPROVED FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IS LOCATED IN A CONTROLLED GROWTH SECTOR. AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESCRIBES REGIONAL COMMERCIAL CENTERS AS LOGICALLY PLACED NEAR HIGH TRAFFIC INTERSECTIONS. THESE SPACES BRING PEOPLE FROM MANY SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. IT GOES ON TO SAY THAT THIS IS TO CREATE A MORE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. CARE SHOULD BE GIVEN TO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE FOR USERS PLEASANT ONCE THEY EXIT THEIR VEHICLE. THE ERA OF LONG LINEAR STRIP CENTERS THAT REQUIRE MULTIPLE CAR TRIPS THROUGH THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO EACH BUSINESS HAS PASSED. SO WE REALLY TOOK THAT TO HEART AND THINKING ABOUT THIS AREA IN THIS COMMERCIAL REGIONAL CENTER, AND I'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. THE OTHER PART OF THE SITE, THE SECOND HALF, IS IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THAT AREA TALKS A LOT ABOUT CREATING COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO IT TALKS ABOUT THE ESSENTIALS CREATING INSTEAD OF A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO THINK ABOUT A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO THAT YOU'LL SEE A LOT IN THIS PLAN TO FOR THIS SITE. SO THE ESSENTIALS TO CREATING A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE THINGS LIKE PARKS, GATHERING SPACES, NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE RETAIL AND OTHER AMENITIES, ALL OF WHICH WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO BUILD INTO THIS PROJECT. ANOTHER BIG PIECE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
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WHAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THIS SITE IS REALLY ABOUT WALKABILITY AND CREATING THAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY, THE NEXT THING THAT WE STUDIED, WHICH YOU ALL TALKED A LOT ABOUT EARLIER TODAY, IS TRANSPORTATION. WE HEARD ABOUT IT FROM CITIZENS EARLIER AS WELL. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TRACT IS LOCATED IN A KEY SPOT WITHIN THE TOWN THAT CONNECTS, HAS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT GOFORTH ROAD FROM EAST FM 150 ALL THE WAY TO YARRINGTON, WHICH IS ALSO LOOP 130, WHICH WILL RELIEVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC, PROVIDE AN OUTLET TO RELIEVE TRAFFIC ON EAST FM 150.THERE ARE CURRENT. THE CITY HAS WORKED HARD ON THIS ROAD AND SO CURRENTLY EVERYTHING IN BLUE THERE IS PLANNED OR UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THE PIECE IN GREEN WOULD BE WHAT WE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING WITH THIS PROJECT. SO IT'S ABOUT 0.6 MILES OF GOFORTH ROAD. THAT'S ON THE SITE AND ABOUT 0.2 MILES THAT'S OFF THE SITE, BUT WE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTING BOTH OF THOSE AS PART OF THIS TO MAKE THAT FINAL CONNECTION. AND WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO ROUNDABOUTS, ONE ON EAST FM 150 AND ONE ON COUNTY ROAD 158, AGAIN TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
ALL RIGHT. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROJECT GOALS AND THE PROJECT ITSELF. SO OUR FIRST GOAL HERE IS ABOUT CREATING AN EAST KYLE COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC HUB. SO REALLY BUILDING COMMUNITY IN THIS PLACE BY ANCHORING THE DEVELOPMENT WITH COMMERCIAL SERVICES AND SHARED COMMUNITY SPACES. WE'RE REALLY TRYING AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHEN WE GET TO THE TO THE MAP OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SIMILAR TO WHAT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAID IS TO TALK ABOUT CREATING A PLACE HERE. SO BEYOND SORT OF YOUR CONVENTIONAL RETAIL THAT'S FACING FM 150, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE SITE AND CREATE A PLACE AND A DESTINATION THAT CONNECTS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SITE, INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES.
THIS SITE DOES HAVE GOFORTH ROAD RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH IT. IT ALSO HAS AN LCRA TRANSMISSION LINE, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH COUNTY LINE ON WATER TO BRING WATER TO THIS AREA, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH CITY OF KYLE WASTEWATER TO BRING WASTEWATER LINE. WE'LL HAVE TO TRAVEL A BIT OF A DISTANCE TO CONNECT TO THIS SITE, AND WE'VE ALSO GOT THE VIBE TRAIL. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT HOW CAN WE BE SUPER CREATIVE IN INTEGRATING ALL OF THIS INTO A CONNECTED AND TOTAL COMMUNITY? HEALTH IS OUR NEXT GOAL THERE. AND HEALTH IS REALLY ABOUT CREATING ACTIVE, WALKABLE, VIBRANT, COMPLETE COMMUNITY. IT'S ALSO ABOUT GROCERY STORES AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL ALSO BE BRINGING TO THIS SITE. SO HEALTHY FOOD OPTIONS, PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO WALK AND DO THINGS.
HOUSING IS ABOUT PROVIDING HOUSING OPTIONS THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS AT A VARIETY OF AGES AND INCOME LEVELS, AND HOUSEHOLD TYPES AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT HOUSING THAT GOES ALL THE WAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY THROUGH TOWNHOUSES, MULTIFAMILY, AND WE'RE INCORPORATING SOME AFFORDABILITY WITHIN THE SITE. OOPS. THERE WE GO. SO HERE'S OUR FIRST SORT OF RENDERING. AND LOOK AT THE PROJECT OVERALL. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THOSE IMAGES UP THERE. THE RENDERINGS ARE LABELED. NUMBER ONE IS KIND OF LOOKING AT OUR OUR RETAIL AREA.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL YOU CAN SEE IS THAT COMING IN OFF OF FM 150, YOU'VE GOT GOFORTH ROAD THAT KIND OF RUNS DIAGONAL ACROSS THE SITE. BUT WE'RE ALSO BRINGING IN ANOTHER KIND OF PARALLEL ROAD THAT'S CALLED WE'RE CALLING IT OUR RETAIL STREET IN, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A LOT OF PLACE ALONG THAT STREET. SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS IMAGE HERE, YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN A SIDEWALK ALONG THE TOP IMAGE. YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN A SIDEWALK THAT'S ON THAT RETAIL STREET IN THE BACKGROUND, YOU'LL SEE SOME MULTIFAMILY. AND IN THE FOREGROUND YOU SEE THERE'S A GROCERY STORE THERE THAT'S GOT OUTDOOR SEATING AND DINING, A PLAZA. IT'S MORE OF A PLACE, A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO. WE'VE GOT SOME SOME PARKLAND OR SOME PLAZA SPACE INTER INTERTWINED IN THERE THAT THE VIBE TRAIL CONNECTS TO, AND RESTAURANTS AND DESTINATIONS, AS YOU MOVE FURTHER DOWN THE SITE, YOU SEE THERE'S MULTIFAMILY ON THE EAST SIDE OF GOFORTH, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME OF THAT MIXTURE OF BOTH SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOMES AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT LOT SIZES ON, ON THOSE HOMES. ALL OF THE HOMES IN THERE ARE FEE SIMPLE, SO THEY'RE ALL OWNERSHIP TYPE LOTS, THE BOTTOM IMAGE THERE IS OF GOFORTH ROAD.
THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY TRIED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE LCRA EASEMENT, AS WELL AS GOFORTH ROAD TO INCLUDE THAT VIBE TRAIL SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF ACTIVATE THAT EASEMENT.
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BUT ALSO HAVE TREES ALONGSIDE IT. SO YOU CAN SEE THE TREES THERE THAT SHADE THE TRAIL. THAT MAKES IT A LOT MORE WALKABLE. AND USABLE. SO OVERALL, YOU'VE GOT 400 UNITS OF SINGLE FAMILY SLASH TOWNHOME ON THE WEST SIDE THERE OF GOFORTH. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, ABOUT 650 MULTIFAMILY UNITS. THAT INCLUDES 350 AFFORDABLE AND 300 MARKET RATE, YOU'VE GOT 11.5 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, WHICH INCLUDES A GROCERY STORE OF 15,000FT■!S. YOU'VE GOT PARKS AND OPEN SPACE OF TEN AND A HALF ACRES THAT PARKS AND OPEN SPACE INCLUDES THINGS LIKE AN INDOOR MEETING SPACE, RESTROOMS, WATER FACILITIES, WATER FOUNTAINS, COVERED PAVILION, SPORT COURT, PLAYGROUNDS, TRAILS, VIBE TRAIL. WE'VE ALSO GOT, CELL TOWER EASEMENTS AND PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PHASING, I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO COME TO SERVE THIS SITE. AND SO WITH THAT, YOU'LL SEE OUR PHASING PLAN REALLY IS STARTING AT COUNTY ROAD 158. THAT'S BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE OUR WASTEWATER IS ACCESSED. SO OUR WASTEWATER WILL HAVE TO GO DOWN COUNTY ROAD. 158 TO COOL SPRINGS. SO THAT'S WHERE WE START WITH WASTEWATER. THAT'S ALSO WHERE THE REGIONAL DETENTION IS. THAT WILL SERVE THE WHOLE SITE. AND SO WE'LL BE STARTING THERE WITH GOFORTH ROAD AND WORKING OUR WAY UP TO FM 150. THE OTHER REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THE PERMITTING OF THAT INTERSECTION, BOTH ROUNDABOUT INTERSECTIONS ALONG GOFORTH AT FM 150, WILL BE PERMITTED WITH TXDOT AND JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER. SO OUR PLAN IS TO START ALL OF THE PERMITTING OF GOFORTH ROAD ALTOGETHER, BUT THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE PHASED, AS AS THAT HAPPENS, SO IN STARTING AT THE SOUTHERN END, WE'LL BE WORKING UP OUR FIRST PHASE WILL INCLUDE, IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. WELL IN TERMS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, FIRST WE'LL HAVE GOFORTH ROAD. WE WILL BE PUTTING IN, WORKING WITH COUNTY LINE FOR A WATER TOWER, A PUMP STATION, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE WASTEWATER EXTENSION AND THE REGIONAL DETENTION ALL FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN THAT FIRST, MULTIFAMILY THAT'S TOWARDS THE SOUTH THERE, WHICH IS THE AFFORDABLE AND GETTING STARTED ON THE SINGLE FAMILY. WE ANTICIPATE ABOUT 50 HOMES IN THAT FIRST IN THAT FIRST PHASE AND THEN THE AND THE GROCERY STORE. AS SOON AS GOFORTH IS ABLE TO GET UP TO IT. ALL RIGHT. TALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE, MAIN COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND ONE OF THE FIRST ONES I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, REALLY FUNDAMENTAL TO STREAMLINE'S GOALS WITH THIS PROJECT IS TO DELIVER A MIXED INCOME COMMUNITY. I STRESS THIS BECAUSE IT'S A KEY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND OTHER STANDALONE, AFFORDABLE COMMUNITIES IN MANY WAYS. COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS AND MIXED INCOME COMMUNITIES PROVIDE THE BENEFIT OF WELL LOCATED AND INTEGRATED PARKS, TRAILS, RESTAURANTS, GATHERING PLACES THAT TYPICALLY DRIVE HIGHER RENTS, AND THAT ARE INCREASINGLY OUT OF REACH FOR WORKING FAMILIES, INCLUDING TEACHERS AND PUBLIC SERVANTS. AS A MIXED INCOME COMMUNITY, THE GROVE WILL BE PROVIDING ALL OF THESE AMENITIES OF A QUALITY PRODUCT AND A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY, AND MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO A WIDER ARRAY OF WORKING FAMILIES. AND KYLE RESIDENTS. I'VE INCLUDED A FEW PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY FINANCIALS ON THIS SLIDE. AND, THAT ARE INVOLVED IN BEING ABLE TO DELIVER AN AFFORDABLE PROJECT WITH HIGH QUALITY PROJECT AND A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY, AND TO COMMIT TO THIS AFFORDABILITY FOR A PERIOD OF 30 YEARS. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'LL BE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE FINANCIALS HERE, BUT WE WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO TALK TO AND RESPOND TO AND TO START THIS CONVERSATION IN ORDER TO DELIVER THIS PROJECT AND COMMIT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE PROJECT WILL BE PARTNERING WITH THE CAPITAL AREA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, WHICH IS A TAX EXEMPT ENTITY, IN EXCHANGE FOR THE TAX EXEMPTION, WE WILL BE PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY HOUSING TO FAMILIES EARNING LESS THAN 60 AND 50% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, AND SO THAT'S FOR ALL 100% OF THOSE 350 AFFORDABLE UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE. WE'LL ALSO BE DELIVERING A COMPLETE COMMUNITY ON THE REMAINING 85 ACRES, WHICH ALL WILL BE, YOU KNOW, ADD ADDITIONAL AD VALOREM TAX THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 18.9 MILLION OVER THAT SAME 30 YEAR PERIOD, WE'LL ALSO BE CONSTRUCTING GOFORTH, AND, PARTICIPATING WITH A ONE TIME PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES. THE OTHER, THE OTHER I'VE ALREADY REALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER REALLY BIG COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS CONSTRUCTING GOFORTH AND CONNECTING IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE SITE AND TO THE LIMESTONE CREEK DEVELOPMENT. WE WILL BE DOING AS PART OF THIS, A[01:45:02]
THREE PARTY TIA THAT INCLUDES TXDOT, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AS PART OF THAT. AND WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THAT, THERE WILL BE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION THAT IS PART OF OUR FINANCING PLAN.THAT'S PART OF THIS AS WELL, PARTICULARLY TO GET THE OFF SITE PIECES AND, YEAH, IT ALSO INCLUDES THE VIBE TRAIL BOTH ALONG GOFORTH ROAD AND COUNTY ROAD 158. IN TERMS OF THE COMMERCIAL HUB, I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT ALREADY, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE A GROCERY STORE IS REALLY THE ANCHOR TENANT THERE, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 11.5 ACRES AT MINIMUM FOR THE COMMERCIAL, WE HAVE THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR A COUNTY PARTNERSHIP THERE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY BROUGHT UP AND THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY AROUND IS HAVING A PRECINCT OFFICE OR SOMEWHERE TO PAY TAXES AND WHICH WOULD BE? WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS THEY CONTINUE AND AS WE MAKE OUR WAY FURTHER DOWN WITH THE CITY. IN TERMS OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, WE HAVE REALLY DESIGNED AND OUR INTENTIONAL, INTENTIONAL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE PARKS ARE CENTRAL TO THIS SITE AND ALSO THAT THEY'RE REALLY WELL DEVELOPED, AND SO WE ARE EXCEEDING THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT OBLIGATIONS BY NEARLY TWICE, TWO TIMES. SO OUR REQUIRED PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT OBLIGATIONS ARE 1 MILLION. AND WE'RE GETTING UP TO 2 MILLION WITH THAT, AGAIN, WHAT THAT INCLUDES ARE IS AN INDOOR MEETING SPACE, RESTROOMS, DRINKING FOUNTAINS, A COVERED SPORT COURT SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT YOU SEE UP THERE, ABOUT 9000FT■!S. PLAYSCAPE, NATIVE LANDSCAPING. TRAILS, OPEN SPACE, AND TWO ACRES OF VIBE TRAIL. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE KNOW IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KYLE IS WATER CONSERVATION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS WE'VE GOT YOU CAN SEE ON THE, ON THE SCREEN THERE, WE'RE REALLY DESIGNING AROUND A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FEATURE. SO WE'RE BRINGING ALL OF OUR WATER AS OPPOSED TO TRADITIONAL. YOU'LL TAKE YOUR WATER TO THE STREETS, PUT THEM INTO STORM DRAINS AND SEND THEM TO A BIG DETENTION POND. WE'VE REALLY DESIGNED THIS SITE AROUND INTEGRATING THE DETENTION OR THE NATURAL DRAINAGE PATTERNS INTO THE SITE SO THAT WATER WILL RUN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. WE'VE GOT HOMES THAT FRONT ON THAT. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT IN THAT GRAPHIC THERE. HOMES WILL BE SERVED FROM THE BACK FRONT ON THAT KIND OF PASEO SPACE THAT ALSO BRINGS WATER. WHAT THAT DOES AS WELL IS IT STARTS TO REDUCE IN SOME CASES, THE SIZE OF BACKYARDS AND TRANSFERS THAT INTO SHARED COMMUNITY SPACES, WHICH CAN BE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WATER CONSERVATION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT LIKE LEED AND TRYING TO REDUCE WATER, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT THEY ASK YOU TO DO IS TRY TO TRY TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF BACKYARDS AND FRONT YARDS THAT PEOPLE HEAVILY WATER, AND INSTEAD USE MORE MANAGED SHARED SPACES THAT CAN BE MANAGED BY AN HOA AND CAN BE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BE PLANTED WITH ALL NATURAL AND NATIVE PLANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE, THAT ARE LESS WATER USE. AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE MORE SLIDE JUST TO LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO WE WILL BE BRINGING, I MENTIONED THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING A WASTEWATER LINE. YOU CAN SEE THERE FROM THE EDGE OF OUR SITE.
WE'LL BE BRINGING IT OFF SITE ABOUT 0.7 MILES TO THE, COOL SPRINGS LOCATION THERE. AND THEN FOR WATER, WE WILL BE PARTNERING USING COUNTY LINE. WE'RE IN COUNTY LINE CCN, AND WITH THAT, THERE'LL BE WE'RE DEDICATING A SITE FOR A WATER TOWER. AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH COUNTY LINE TO SERVICE THAT WHOLE AREA, ABOUT 230, 30 ACRES IN THAT ARE. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO ZACK. ALL RIGHT. I NEED THAT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ZACK CRAWFORD WITH DFG. WE'RE THE DEVELOPERS AND CONSULTANTS. I'VE PREPARED A COUPLE SLIDES FOR YOU. ALL THIS EVENING. ONE SORT OF REITERATING THE PROPOSED LAND USES WITHIN THE PROJECT, WHICH I GUESS WE CAN SKIP SINCE ABBY'S ALREADY GONE OVER THAT, AS WELL AS THE KEY DEVELOPMENT ITEMS PERTAINING TO GOFORTH, THE ROUNDABOUTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ROAD TRAILS, VIBE TRAIL, COMMUNITY PARK, AND THE PROPOSED MEETING SPACE. I THINK WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PROPOSED FINANCING STRUCTURE. WE ARE REQUESTING THE CITY TO APPROVE THE CREATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TO FINANCE THESE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UP UNTIL THIS POINT, AS WELL AS APPROVING THE USE OF THE PLANTERS FOR EXPANSION TO BE USED AS AN OFFSET PARTIAL OFFSET TO THE ANNUAL PIT INSTALLMENTS FOR THE DISTRICT, WHAT WE HAVE TARGETED
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AS A PARTICIPATION RATE FROM BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY IS ROUGHLY 38% ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, SOME HIGH LEVEL FINANCING DETAILS FOR THIS PROPOSED STRUCTURE ARE TARGETED TOTAL EQUIVALENT TAX RATE, INCLUSIVE OF THE PIT AND THE TERS IS ROUGHLY 267 PER 100, AS ABBY MENTIONED EARLIER, THE INCREMENTAL REVENUE TO THE CITY OF KYLE AFTER THE TERS IS ROUGHLY $630,000 PER YEAR. THE TERM THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR BOTH OF THESE DISTRICTS CONCURRENTLY RUNNING IS 30 YEARS, WITH A MINIMUM VALUE TO LEAN RATIO FOR THE PLANNED PIT BOND ISSUANCE OF 3 TO 1, OUR ESTIMATE AS OF RIGHT NOW FOR THE GROSS PIT BOND AMOUNT IS ROUGHLY 19.2 MILLION. OF THAT, WE'RE NETTING ROUGHLY 13.5 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, AND OVER THAT 30 YEAR LIFE OF THE TERS, THE ESTIMATED CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY TO THAT INSTALLMENT OFFSET IS 10.2 MILLION. WHAT WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING IS THAT ANY EXCESS TERS REVENUES ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MAXIMUM OFFSET THAT'S ESTABLISHED WOULD BE APPLIED TO GOFORTH ROAD COSTS THAT HAVE HAD TO BE ALLOCATED TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT BEING ASSESSED WITHIN THE PROJECT. WE HAVE CHOSEN TO NOT PLACE A PIT ASSESSMENT ON THE AFFORDABLE PORTION OF THE PROJECT. IN DOING SO, THE BENEFIT OF THE GOFORTH ROAD COSTS THAT THAT PROPERTY IS BENEFITING FROM HAS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THE BOND TRANSACTION. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS, AS THE PROJECT IS SUCCESSFUL AND IS GENERATING INCREMENTAL REVENUE UP INTO THAT $3.3 MILLION OF THE REMAINING GOFORTH ROAD, THOSE REVENUES WOULD BE DELIVERED TO THE DEVELOPER ON AN ANNUAL BASIS UNTIL THEY'RE FULLY REIMBURSED, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND ALL THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT ARE THE HIGH END OF OUR ASK. THE FINAL TOURIST CONTRIBUTION RATE WILL BE FINALIZED ONCE WE DETERMINE AT WHAT LEVEL COUNTY LINE WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE WATER LINE IMPROVEMENTS, I KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER TEAM MET WITH COUNTY LINE YESTERDAY, AND THERE WAS AN INDICATION THAT THEY WILL BE PARTICIPATING AT SOME LEVEL. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE FINAL NUMBERS ARE YET, AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING UPDATED ANALYSIS ONCE WE HAVE THOSE UPDATED FINANCIALS. AS I MENTIONED, THE EXCESS TERS REVENUES BEING APPLIED TO THE REMAINING GOFORTH ROAD COSTS. ALSO, AS A PART OF THE CONDITIONS TO ISSUE A PIT BOND, WE WOULD INCLUDE EXECUTED CONTRACTS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY MARKET RATE, MULTIFAMILY AND ALL THE COMMERCIAL USES PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS, AS WELL AS ACCEPTABLE ASSURANCE BY THE CITY OR EXCEPTIONAL ASSURANCE TO THE CITY THAT ANY SINGLE FAMILY BUILDER WILL BE COMPLETING THE HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO FINISH THE LOTS AND EVENTUALLY BUILD A FINISHED HOME, AND ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT WILL BE EXCLUDED FROM THE PIT TRANSACTION. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'VE GOT, THE BOLD DID SHOW UP. I THOUGHT IT WASN'T GOING TO SHOW UP. OUR TOTAL EFFECTIVE TAX RATE TARGET IS TO $2.67. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS TABLE HERE, WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMPETITIVE RANGE. OBVIOUSLY, AS THOSE PIT ELIGIBLE COSTS ARE REDUCED BY COUNTY LINES PARTICIPATION THAT TERS PARTICIPATION RATE WILL GO DOWN.BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO TARGET THIS 267 RATE. ALSO, ONE LAST THING TO NOTE, ALL OF THE PROJECTS LISTED ON THIS SCHEDULE UTILIZE SOME SORT OF FINANCING TOOL DISTRICT, WHETHER THAT BE A PID, A MUD TERS OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I KNOW, AS ABBY MENTIONED, OUR ENTIRE TEAM IS HERE AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. SO JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME STARTING, LOOKING AT PHASE ONE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, LOOKING AT THE GOFORTH YOU MENTIONED, SHE MENTIONED THAT, SHE WAS GOING TO. AND MAYBE I MISHEARD YOU, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT MAKING THE ROAD UP TO THE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SINGLE FAMILY. I THINK, FOR ME, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE BUILD THE ENTIRETY, GO FORTH WITH THE SIDEWALKS, FIRST IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO ASK FOR. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I LOVE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THE POSSIBILITIES. I JUST WANT TO HAVE ASSURANCES SO THAT MY FIRST ASSURANCE IS MAKING SURE THAT GO FORTH. AND I KNOW THAT, MISS MEDINA TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIE.
WITHOUT ROADS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE STUCK. AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE ENTIRETY OF THIS ROAD IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME. MAKING SURE WE HAVE ASSURANCES IN THE DA THAT THIS ROAD GETS CONSTRUCTED RIGHT AWAY IS IMPORTANT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
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THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE GROCERY STORE, THIS PROJECT, I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THIS PROJECT WAS BROUGHT TO US BECAUSE THE ASSURANCE OF A GROCERY STORE, WHEN I SEE IT IN PHASE B, THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THE SINGLE FAMILY FOR THE GROCERY STORE. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WAS MAKING SURE WE GET THAT GROCERY STORE. I THINK THE ENTIRE DIOCESE WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE GROCERY STORE WHEN Y'ALL ASKED, MAKING SURE WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO MOVE INTO THE GROCERY STORE IS IMPORTANT AS WELL, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THE GROCERY STORE AND THE MULTIFAMILY, THE AFFORDABLE PART OF IT COMING IN COMBINED. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD GET BEHIND THERE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ASSURANCES, THE PILOT PAYMENT, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY LOW. I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 3.5 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAVE ON TAXES ON THAT. I'D DEFINITELY LOVE TO SEE THAT MORE OF A LARGER PAYMENT.AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD THINK ABOUT ON THAT ONE, WE THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE, IS, EITHER A SCALING WHERE IT'S THE TWO, THE ABOUT 200,000 PLUS AN ANNUAL INCREASE PER YEAR, OR WE COULD DO A ONE TIME PAYMENT OF MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT, MAYBE FOUR MIL IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THAT ONE, SO I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THE ENTIRETY OUT OF THAT PROJECT. I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET A TAX FACING ON THAT, THE OTHER THING THAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS THE ROUNDABOUTS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING TO THE DESIGN AND STANDARDS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. BRIAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, MAKING SURE WE'RE BUILDING A REALLY GOOD ROUNDABOUT. THAT'S DESIGN THAT'S LIT AND IS ALSO ABLE TO MAKE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABLE, FIRST RESPONDERS, FIRE ENGINES, EVERYTHING. I MEAN, MAKING SURE WE DO OUR HOMEWORK ON THAT ROUNDABOUT, THE OTHER THING IS GOING TO BE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PARK SPACE, MAKING SURE THAT, A LOT OF THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE VIBE, MAKING SURE IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, MAKING SURE WE HAVE SAFEGUARDS IN OUR DA AS WELL, THAT THAT ALWAYS STAYS AS PART OF THE SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO USE, BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT ON OUR VIBE TRAIL, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE COVERED PAVILION. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE INDOOR SPACE AS WELL. I THINK ALL OUR PROJECTS SHOULD NOW INCORPORATE SOME KIND OF AN INDOOR SPACE ASPECT THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. I APPRECIATE THE BIG INVESTMENT INTO OUR PARKLAND. I REALLY LOVE THAT, AND BEING WATER CONSCIOUS. THANK YOU. THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME AS WELL, THE OTHER THING IS, ON THE TURF SIDE, IT'S SOMETHING MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING MOST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE PID AND USING THE TOURS AS THE BACKUP. I DON'T WANT TO SEE US LOAD THE TOURS UP HEAVY AND THEN KEEP THE PID DOWN LOW. THE TOURS IS CREATED TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE THE GO FORTH ROAD, BUT WATER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD BE THINKING MORE PIT SIDE ENTERS HEAVY, SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PIT HEAVY, NOT TURF HEAVY AND NOT TO INTERRUPT, JUST JUST GO OUT ON THAT. BUT YEAH WHAT WE'VE CALCULATED IS THAT THE PROJECTED TOURS OFFSET PERCENTAGE IS LESS THAN THE RELATIVE PERCENTAGE OF GO FORTH ROAD COSTS AGAINST THE TOTAL, ESSENTIALLY SAYING THAT THE TOURS OFFSET IS BEING USED SOLELY SOLELY FOR GO FORTH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND NOT ANY OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I THINK THERE'S STILL I'D LOVE TO SEE A LOT MORE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE WHEN IT COMES TO, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMING IN, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTED AS A CITY, AND THE ONLY REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS THAT WE'VE GOT A PROJECT GOING ON IN KYLE RIGHT NOW, THA, WE KIND OF OVERLOOKED. AND I WISH WE WOULD HAVE PUT MORE SAFEGUARDS IN THERE. NOTHING. NOTHING AGAINST Y'ALL, BUT JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT AS A CITY, WE'VE LEARNED AND WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE PROMISED COMES IN IN THE RIGHT TIME BEFORE WE ISSUE ANY RESIDENCY. YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, AGREEMENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AS CITY TO MAKE SURE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT. I'D LOVE TO SEE IT COMPLETE. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM. APPRECIATE ALL YOUR COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILOR HEIZER, IN REGARD TO THE GROCER, HAVE YOU GUYS IDENTIFIED A POSSIBLE TENANT FOR THE SPACE WE HAVE? YES, SIR. AND YOU TELL US WHO IT IS, CERTAINLY. THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, SO IT'S, MARIGOLD MARKET. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MARIGOLD MARKET? WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO. COULD YOU WALK UP HERE, PLEASE? THANK YOU. UNEXPECTED WE HAVE BEEN IN THE GROCERY BUSINESS FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES
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NOW. MY PARENTS HAVE BEEN IN IT FOR 30 PLUS YEARS, AND THEN I STARTED MY LAST SEMESTER OF COLLEGE, WE LOVE THE GROCERY INDUSTRY, AND WE REALLY MAKE SURE THAT EVERY STORE THAT WE START REALLY TAILORS THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT'S IN. SO MARIGOLD MARKET IS IN SOUTHWEST AUSTIN. EVERYTHING FROM LIKE THE FOOD SELECTION TO THE DESIGN WE TAILORED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT COMMUNITY. MY PARENTS RUN ANOTHER STORE IN BUDA, GARLIC CREEK COUNTRY MARKET, AND THEY MADE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, EVERYTHING FROM THE DESIGN TO THE GROCERY IS COMPLETELY TAILORED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE PLAN ON DOING THAT HERE AS WELL. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY KEEPING IN MIND ANYTHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NEED, A CAFE, COFFEE, PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE. WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY TO PROVIDE. WHAT IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, WHAT PIQUED YOUR INTEREST ABOUT KYLE, WE HAVE BEEN IN AUSTIN. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN MY WHOLE LIFE. I GREW UP HERE, AND THEN I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE. WE LOVE BUDA. WE LOVE KIND OF THE SMALL TOWN FEEL OF IT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY KYLE, I THINK DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF MAINTAINING THAT. BUT ALSO GROWING AND CHANGING AND ADAPTING WITH THE TIMES. SO I DON'T KNOW, I JUST I LOVE THE FEEL OF KYLE EVEN COMING IN HERE AND SEEING LIKE THE THRIFT STORE AND ALL THE, LIKE, ARCHITECTURE THAT'S BEEN PRESERVED AROUND CITY HALL, BUT THEN ALSO GETTING TO SEE ALL THE AMENITIES THAT YOU GUYS ARE SUPER EXCITED TO PROVIDE TO EVERYBODY COMING TO KYLE IS, I GUESS, WHAT A CITY SHOULD BE DOING. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO. I MEAN, EVEN AS WE'VE SAT IN THIS MEETING, WE CAN SEE HOW MUCH EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED AND LOVES THE CITY. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO KIND OF BE A PART OF THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD JOB.COUNCILMAN TOBIAS ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, I THINK WE WENT FROM THE PRESENTATION. THEN WE WENT TO STRAIGHT TO HOW WE WERE GOING TO FINANCE. SO I'M JUST GOING BACK TO THE PROJECT OVERVIEW OF WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS OR WHAT IT'S FOR. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE PROJECT OVERVIEW. YOU'RE LOOKING AT 65,000FT■!S OF COMMERCIAL SP. OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED ONE POTENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR THE GROCERY STORE LOT, BUT WHAT OTHER, WHAT OTHER COMMERCIAL RETAIL BUSINESSES HAVE Y'ALL Y'ALL WORKED WITH IN THE PAST THAT COULD ADD TO THOSE SPACES? OF THE 65,000FT■!S THATS POTENTIAL THERE FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE THERE, THE ADDITIONALS. SURE. SO STREAMLINE HAS BEEN SPEAKING WITH, DAYCARES AND AS A, AS A POTENTIAL OR OR SCHOOLS, RESTAURANTS, OTHER OTHER SPACES LIKE THAT. LIKE I SAID, WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN IN CREATING PLACE. SO WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF CONVENIENT NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES THAT SERVE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE REGION, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THIS AS A REGIONAL HUB. OKAY AND THEN YOU GO ON TO ANOTHER POINT ON YOUR PROJECT. THERE WAS THIS POTENTIAL SITE FOR HAYS COUNTY FACILITIES. YES. HAVE YOU BEEN SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY WITHIN THE COUNTY OR ON THAT ON THAT END THERE? AS FAR AS A POSSIBLE SITE FOR, A DEPARTMENT? SURE. YEAH. THE COUNTY HAS EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST IN LOCATING A PRECINCT OFFICE IN THIS AREA, AS WELL AS A PLACE TO TAX OFFICE TO PAY YOUR TAXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONLY EXPRESSED INTEREST AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE REAL HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM. IF THIS IS A SITE THAT THEY END UP CHOOSING. OKAY. NOW I KNOW THAT, I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE IN OTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DICE, THERE IS A HOUSING CRISIS IN TEXAS. I KNOW THAT THEY ARE. THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH FOR MORE HOUSING IN THE AREA, IN THE STATE ITSELF. BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT RIGHT HERE, IT STATES HERE IN THIS SECTION WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT 400 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, 40 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. WITH THAT, WITH THAT AVERAGE PRICE, 180. SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES OF THREE, 75 AND THEN 180.
TOWNHOME LOTS ON THAT PRICE. 300 UNIT MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT AND 350. SO I SEE THERE IT SAYS YOU GOT YOUR 350 AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO CLARIFY, WHENEVER YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT WILL BE EXCLUDED IN THE PID, WHAT IS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, I'M GOING TO LET ZACH ANSWER THAT ONE. SURE, PEOPLE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT THEN NOW IT SAYS HERE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT IS GOING TO BE EXCLUDED FROM THE PID. THAT'S
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RIGHT. AND THAT'S IN AN EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THAT AFFORDABILITY BY NOT ADDING AN ADDITIONAL ANNUAL BURDEN TO THAT LAND USE. OKAY. IN DOING SO, THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PARCEL WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT BOND ISSUANCE. THAT'S THAT ADDITIONAL TOURS REVENUE THAT WE DISCUSSED UP TO THAT $3.3 MILLION. OKAY AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT ABOUT THE HOMES, BUT I ALSO KNOW THE AREA OF 150 AND I KNOW THE TRAFFIC THERE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG CONCERN. AND SO I KNOW RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN WATER LEAF ALL THE WAY THROUGH. AND THERE'S ALSO RESIDENTS THAT DON'T LIVE IN KYLE USE 150 TO GO THROUGH TO 21 IN OTHER AREAS. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN AREA OF TOWN THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE CONCERN. IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CONCERN. AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD A VERY LONG PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR ROAD BONDS AND ALL THE ROADS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED AND ALL THE ROADS THAT NEED TO BE RECONSTRUCTED. SO MY, MY JUST IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THE ADDITIONAL 400 MORE FAMILY HOMES, TWO CARS APIECE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 800 CARS, POSSIBLY ON THE ROAD, AND NOT ONLY THAT, SOMETIMES I FEEL WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GOOD AND YOU'RE BRINGING A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. I ALSO THINK ABOUT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL HOMES. THOSE ARE AN ADDITIONAL KIDS, AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY EVENTUALLY OF ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS THAT ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE BUILT WITHIN THAT AREA. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE OF EVERYTHING WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THESE TYPES OF, DEVELOPMENTS, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, TEX DOT WHAT THE STUDIES ARE ON THAT ROAD.ONE 5158 BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME OF THOSE ROADS, HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT YET. AND ALSO THE INCREASED POPULATION THAT WILL AFFECT, SCHOOLS IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THESE HOUSINGS, WE HAVE THESE FAMILIES IN, THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL ROADWAYS, RIGHT, OF WAYS THAT WE'VE GOT WE AS A CITY ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IN THE LONG RUN TO PROVIDE FOR THESE FUTURE SCHOOLS THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED IN THAT AREA FOR THESE HOMES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. YES, MA'AM. APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY. ALL RIGHT, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, SO WHAT ARE THE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE GOPHER? ROAD THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD? LIKE I SAID, YEAH.
LIKE, IS IT GOING TO BE A TWO LANE TO LANE OR. YES. DO YOU HAVE ANY CITY SPECIFICATIONS FOR GOFORTH? YEAH, IT'S PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, AND SO WE'LL BE FOLLOWING ALL THE CITY SPECIFICATIONS. DID I READ ROUNDABOUTS? SO THE ROUNDABOUT CONSTRUCTION WILL BE INCLUDED? YES. YES, MA'AM. AND DID I READ THAT YOU HAVE ESTIMATED $3.3 MILLION FOR THAT, OR DID I, WAS THAT A WRONG? IT IS HIGHER THAN THAT. I THINK IT'S 13. BUT OUR ENGINEER IS HERE. YEAH. DO YOU HAVE IT? THERE WE GO. DO YOU MIND PUTTING THAT SLIDE BACK ON? I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A SLIDE REPRESENTING THE TOTAL ROADWAY COSTS. TOTAL INCLUSIVE OF ROUNDABOUTS, IS ROUGHLY $11 MILLION, 11.1 MILLION. AND YOU HAVE IN THERE A SECTION OF THE BIKE TRAIL, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
SO I KNOW THIS ROAD WILL BENEFIT KYLE, BUT WILL ALSO BENEFIT YOUR DEVELOPMENT. SO IT IS GOOD FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE IT BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A WAY IN AND OUT FOR RESIDENTS. BUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR IS, WHAT IF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO 150? AND WHAT IF THE COUNTY BOND DOESN'T PASS AND THERE ARE NO IMPROVEMENTS TO 150? AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ADDING, DID I READ THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT AFTER YOU HAVE FINISHED YOUR PHASES, 1050 UNITS? YES, MA'AM. SO THAT'S 1050 UNITS. NOT EVEN WOODMERE WAS THAT DENSE WITH NO IMPROVEMENTS TO 150. SO WHEN WE GET THE RESIDENTS COMPLAINING HERE ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS TO 150 THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF, I KNOW THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN 158 AND 150, BUT THAT STILL WILL NOT ALLEVIATE ANY TRAFFIC. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE HAVING HERE A THREE PARTY TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. DO YOU HAVE THAT ALREADY? YES, WE HAVE BEGUN IT. OKAY, AND SO WHAT WHAT IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE ESTIMATING THAT THAT'S GOING TO DO LIKE WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT THAT THESE
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UNITS HAVE. SO AS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS ROAD FOR A LONG TIME AS A REALLY BIG RELIEF FROM TRAFFIC ON FM 150, BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE ONCE THIS GETS CONNECTED, PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAVELING DOWN FM 150 BUT MAYBE WANT TO GO SOUTH, THEY HAVE AN OUTLET NOW WHERE BEFORE THEY WERE CONTINUING ALONG. ALSO, THIS TAKES YOU TO YARRINGTON, WHICH IS ALSO A SH 130 WHICH CAN TAKE YOU OUT EAST. SO THE IDEA WITH GOFORTH ROAD IS THAT IT IS ANOTHER OUTLET THAT DOESN'T. SO IT SHOULD HELP. TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS ON FM 150 BY PROVIDING MORE OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING WE PROBABLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IS LIKE, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF 158? AND DOES IT NEED TO HAVE ANY IMPROVEMENTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE FOR US TO HAVE THE GOFORTH? FANTASTIC, BECAUSE IT DOES WILL ALLEVIATE. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE ARE TOTALLY COUNTING ALL THE UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN HERE. SO THOSE ARE CONCERNS FOR ME. THE NEXT CONCERN IS THAT, I THINK YOUR STORY IS SUPER CUTE. I JUST GOOGLED IT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S LIKE A FULL GROCERY STORE, LIKE WE NEED. I THOUGHT THAT WE HEARD THAT WE WERE GOING. I MEAN, AVERAGE GROCERY STORE IS 40,000FT■!S. TS IS 15. SO IT IS ALMOST LIKE DOLLAR GENERAL, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. THAT KIND OF SIZE, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS GOING TO THAT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE PROMISED WHEN YOU GUYS WERE BRINGING THIS. SO 15,000FT■!S. E HAD ORIGINALLY COME IN WITH 10,000. WE HAVE TALKED TO THE GROCER, AND THEY ARE ABLE TO GET UP TO 15,000FT■!S, WHICH IS WHIH IS THE SIZE OF A SMALL GROCER STORE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT AN HEB, OR AN ALBERTSONS. THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF GROCERY, BUT IT'S A FULL SERVICE GROCER THAT OFFERS ALL OF THE FOOD. AND IT ALSO HAS PREPARED FOODS AND PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE Y'ALL'S HEADACHE FOR TOO LONG BECAUSE I HAVE LIKE ONE MEETING LEFT, BUT I'M JUST LAYING OUT ALL THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. I AM DEFINITELY A FIRM NO FOR THIS ONE. SO WHAT DID YOU SAY? LIKE I AM, I'M TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS OF 150, NOT KNOWING IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING ON THE BOND PASSING. THIS IS JUST NOT THIS IS ADDING UP TO AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUES BETWEEN 150 AND 150. WELL, JUST THANK YOU JUST FOR THE TIMELINE SAKE. AND YOU CAN JUMP IN AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO AHEAD IS I MEAN, WE'RE A MONTH AWAY FROM KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY BOND WILL PASS. WE GOT SOME I MEAN, WE PUT IT OUT THERE AND WE GOT SOME INTERESTING FEEDBACK. SO WE WON'T EVEN BE TAKING. I KNOW WE WON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, BUT. I'M DANIELLE STILL HAS THE FLOOR. SORRY ARE YOU DONE? I'M DONE. ALL RIGHT. I NEED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER. YEAH. SO CONCEPTUALLY, I THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD CONCEPT OF THE MIXED USE TOWNHOMES AND THE AFFORDABILITY, BUT IT'S STILL LIKE YOU'RE NOT REALLY MIXING IN THE AFFORDABILITY WITH THE WITH THE OTHER PART. LIKE YOU STILL HAVE IT A BIT SEGREGATED.ALTHOUGH THE, THE IDEA IS TO BRING IT IN TOGETHER. BUT ON THE PLAT YOU HAVE AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE AND MARKET RATE THAT ARE GOING TO BE TWO DIFFERENT KIND OF HOUSING OPTIONS. RIGHT.
SO THERE ARE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS LIKE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BUT YOU CAN SEE WE'VE REALLY DONE A LOT TO INTEGRATE THEM HERE. SO WE'VE GOT A ONE COMMON STREET THAT COMES THROUGH AND YOU'VE GOT BOTH PROJECTS FRONTING ON THAT STREET, AND IT CONNECTS IT RIGHT UP TO THE COMMERCIAL HUB. AND THEN IT ALSO BRINGS YOU RIGHT OVER TO THE PARK, TO THE VIBE TRAIL, SO THAT ALL OF THAT IS INTEGRATED. SO IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT THERE, WELL, WILL SOMEONE BE ABLE TO, I GUESS, PERCEIVE THAT YOU'RE IN AN AFFORDABLE, HOUSING AREA VERSUS A NON AFFORDABLE AREA? NO, THESE ARE THESE ARE REALLY HIGH QUALITY. OKAY. CLASS A, IT LOOKS IT WILL LOOK JUST LIKE THE MARKET. VERY HIGH STANDARD. YES.
IT'S A HIGH STANDARD BUILDING THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE MARKET RATE. AFFORDABLE. THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT. IT'S JUST REALLY THE AFFORDABILITY IS JUST ALLOWING, PEOPLE TO LIVE IN A NEW, BRAND NEW BUILDING THAT IS IN A BEAUTIFUL MIXED USE COMMUNITY. AND IT MAKES IT AVAILABLE TO MORE SEGMENTS OF THE POPULATION. YEAH SO I REALLY LOVE THAT. I LOVE THAT IDEA. AND WE DO NEED THE CONNECTIVITY AND AN ARTERY ON 150 TO 158, BUT I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT OTHERS HAVE EXPRESSED. WHAT ARE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF 158 THE CAPACITY ON 150. BUT I WILL REMIND OUR COUNCIL THAT, THERE WAS NEVER THERE WAS NOT A ROAD ON THE ROAD BOND IN DISTRICT TWO. SO THAT'S
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SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT TOO, THE, THE GROCER IS SMALL, BUT I KNOW THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK HERE WITH THE WHOLE PROJECT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST IS NOT IS NOT COMPLETING THE PID. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A NO FOR ME UNTIL THE PID INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ALL THE HOUSING IS SET UP. I DON'T WANT TO SEE AN INCOMPLETE PID PROJECT WHERE DEVELOPERS NOW HAVE HIGHER COSTS TO GO IN TO BUILD THE NICE HOUSES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOW AN ADDITIONAL COST. I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING SHARED TO ME THAT THERE'S A PID COMPONENT THAT'S NOT MAKING SENSE FINANCIALLY. AND SO MAYBE ONE THING TO LOOK AT IS INCREASING THAT PID RATE, BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE A GOOD PROJECT HERE, NOT JUST SETTLE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET A ROAD HERE BUILT. SO THAT'S ONE THING FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND. AND WE APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE A SALAD OF MIXED DEVELOPERS, AND YOU GET THE MULTI HOUSING AND YOU'RE GONE. SO YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED. AND NOW WE'RE STUCK WITH OUR BOND RATING INTO THAT. AND MAKING SURE THAT WE STILL GET THE NICE THE HOUSING THAT WE NEED. YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH PROSPECTIVE BUILDERS IN THE PROJECT OF HAVING THOSE GUARANTEES THAT THEY WILL BE COMPLETING THE HORIZONTAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE FRANKLY, THEY HAVE EVERY INCENTIVE TO DO SO THAT THEY CAN SELL A FINISHED PRODUCT AND COMPLETE THEIR BUSINESS. SO NOW THE ROAD SORT OF WORRIES ME. IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A MAJOR ROAD THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, WHAT BUFFERS AND WHAT SETBACKS ARE Y'ALL PROPOSING ON THIS TYPE OF HOUSING? BECAUSE ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IS WE'VE GOT A MAJOR ROAD.SPEEDERS GOING THROUGH 24 HOURS A DAY, RIGHT? SEVEN DAYS A WEEK THROUGH HERE. SO YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT DESIGNED WHERE THERE'S A VIBE AND CONNECTIVITY. BUT WILL PEOPLE ENJOY THAT WHEN THEY SEE TWO? YOU'RE PROPOSING FOUR LANES, RIGHT. IS THAT WHAT THIS IS? YES. THAT'S PART OF THE CITY'S. YEAH. HOW WILL THAT BE? HOW WILL THAT BE A COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT IN HERE? SINCE NOW YOU BASICALLY HAVE THOSE LARGE INTERSECTING ROADWAYS? YES. YEAH. WE HAVE PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE DESIGN OF THAT. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IS INCLUDE STREET TREES, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT HELPS TO SHADE AND PROVIDE MORE OF A BUFFER BETWEEN THE FAST MOVING TRAFFIC. YOU PUT THE TREES HERE AND THEN YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND SO IT REALLY MAKES PEOPLE FEEL A LOT MORE SAFE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK AND BEING PART OF THAT, WE'VE ALSO GOT, WE WON'T HAVE OF COURSE, ANY DRIVEWAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ACCESSING GOFORTH. SO IF YOU DO HAVE LIKE YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IMAGE AND ACTUALLY IT'S ON OUR COVER SLIDE HERE OF POTENTIALLY WHAT GOFORTH COULD LOOK LIKE. YOU DO SEE THAT WE TRY TO FRONT GOFORTH WITH BUILDING FACES. BUT THEY'RE ALL ACCESSED FROM THE REAR. AND SO IN THAT WAY IT ALSO SORT OF CREATES MORE OF A OF A SENSE OF PLACE ALONG GOFORTH AS OPPOSED TO HAVING, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR ARTERIAL WITH BIG FENCES OR PRIVACY FENCES AND BACKS OF BUILDINGS. SO WE'RE REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT AND HOPING TO CREATE A REALLY GREAT COMMUNITY AROUND GOFORTH. WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL CROSSINGS, AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHERE THE VIBE TRAIL, FOR EXAMPLE, WILL CROSS THE STREET AT SAFE INTERSECTIONS ON BOTH SIDES SO THAT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE COMMUNITY PARK THERE, YOU'RE ABLE TO CROSS THE STREET THERE AT A SAFE CROSSING, AN INTERSECTION, I ALSO SHARE THE SAME MOTION WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE RETAIL FIRST BEFORE WE WOULD ISSUE OUT THE MULTIFAMILY CO. I WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE ROAD BUILT. NOT NOT A PIECE OF IT. AND, AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY INDOOR SPACE AND THE AND THE PARK SPACE, IS THAT OPEN TO EVERYONE THAT'S NOT LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY? OR IS THAT ONLY GOING TO BE TO RESIDENTS HERE AND HOMES HERE? THE WHOLE THE WHOLE PARK SPACE IS OPEN TO EVERYBODY, AND SO THE BEING THE, THE COVERED PAVILION FOR BASKETBALL, THE PLAYSCAPE, THE, THE BUILDING, THE INSIDE SPACE WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA, AND SO MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, BE OPEN TO, TO THE WHOLE PUBLIC. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO THAT LEVEL YET, BUT IT WILL BE MANAGED MAINTAINED AND ALL OF THAT BY THE HOA, AS WELL AS ALL OF THE REST OF THE FACILITIES. AND THEN I GUESS I HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE RETAIL, IS THERE SUFFICIENT PARKING AREAS IN THIS RETAIL SINCE, I MEAN, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT ALL IN 11 ACRES? YEAH SO, AND THEN DO THE PARKING FOR, I GUESS, THE PARKS IF RESIDENTS COME TO ENJOY THE
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PARK. I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE PARKING SPACES? YES, SIR. DESIGNED IN HERE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. YES WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE. AND WE DO HAVE PARKING DESIGNED.YOU CAN SEE ON THE. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE LCRA EASEMENT IS THAT YOU CAN PARK CARS IN IT.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKING, BUT BUT ONE THING YOU'LL NOTICE IS THAT WE HAVE ORIENTED THE BUILDING SORT OF TO THAT RETAIL STREET TO CREATE THAT NICE STREETSCAPE ENVIRONMENT, BUT THEY'LL BE PARKING ALONGSIDE THE BUILDINGS AND BESIDE AND BEHIND THE BUILDINGS TO SERVICE ALL OF IT, FOR SURE. AND I GUESS THE LAST TWO QUESTIONS I'LL ASK ON THE DA, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, BECAUSE REALLY, I WAS HOOKED IN WHEN THERE WAS A CHANCE TO BRING IN A GROCER. NOT THAT I WAS EXPECTING HEB, BUT I WAS EXPECTING. AND WE WERE ALL SORT OF ALL COMMITTED TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE DA THAT IT COULD STAY A GROCER FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, AND NOT JUST STAY IN OPERATION, OR AS A SHELL BUILDING, AND THAT IT LEAVES OPERATION WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO. I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE BIT. IT'S GOT TO BE A MORE LONG TERM TYPE OF GROCER TO STICK IN THERE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD ANCHOR THE WHOLE GROVE RETAIL THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUT AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION. IT'S PROBABLY COME BACK TO ME. SO SORRY, I DON'T THINK I CAN THINK ABOUT IT. NO.
YOU'RE FINE. OH SORRY. IT WAS THE IT WAS THE PROPERTY TAX PART, THE PROPERTY TAX PART SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT LOW. SO I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NEGOTIATED. TO BE A BIT HIGHER FOR THE TAX ABATEMENT PART. I UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT. AND JUST REMIND, REMINDING THE COUNCIL REAL QUICK IS THAT THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION. THEY'RE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK. WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING TODAY OKAY? I JUST WANT TO SECOND A LOT OF WHAT DOCTOR ZUNIGA SAID. IT WAS A LOT THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT MY MAJOR CONSIDERATION IS THAT THE YOU'RE GOING TO EXPECT THE BUILDERS TO FINISH OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE LEADING TO THEIR HOUSES. I THINK THAT'S PROBLEMATIC, I, I'VE SEEN THAT DONE IN OTHER PLACES. AND THE, THE DEVELOPMENT LAGGED WHEN THAT HAPPENS AND IT GETS VERY RAGTAG. SOME DO REALLY GOOD JOBS OF THAT, SOME DON'T. NO MATTER WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE. IF THE IF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER HAS FINISHED TO THOSE LOTS, THEN IT'S A LOT MORE CONSISTENT IN WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WATER ISSUES AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS IS A SMALL THING, ACTUALLY.
WE'RE TALKING A LOT OF BIG THINGS, BUT A SMALL THING, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE WATER RECAPTURE BEING USED, ESPECIALLY AT THE RETAIL AND THE APARTMENT, ESPECIALLY OFF THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, BECAUSE THAT CAN BE DIRECTED TO WATER THE LANDSCAPING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT REALLY BUGS ME. AND IT'S THE TREES MAKING SURE WE'RE PLANTING THE RIGHT TREES IN THE AREA. NOTHING IS GOING TO BRANCH OUT.
EVERYTHING THAT HAS A ROOT SYSTEM THAT COMES DOWN BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IT. WE'VE SEEN SIDEWALKS IN PLUM CREEK. WE'VE SEEN ROADWAYS ALL OVER KYLE WHERE WE PLANT THE WRONG TREES.
AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT, MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND PUTTING THE RIGHT VEGETATION IN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT LATER. BUT THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS SOMETHING COUNCILMEMBER PARSLEY TALKED ABOUT. SO WE'RE ABOUT TO GO TO THE COUNTY IS ABOUT TO GO TO BOND IN NOVEMBER. AND WHAT IS PROPOSED ON THAT BOND IS A NEW 150 BYPASS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WILL COME OFF OF YARNTON ROAD. TAKE US AND WILL ALLEVIATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OFF OF 150. THAT'S IN NOVEMBER.
SO THIS WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD TODAY IS STILL A WAYS OFF. SO WE ACTUALLY WILL KNOW WHERE WE ARE BEFORE YOU COME BEFORE THE CITY AND ASK FOR DEVELOPMENT TO COME FORWARD SO WE'LL KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE BOND. THE OTHER THING THAT BOND FOCUSES, SO THAT'S A REALLY IS EAST SIDE OF KYLE BOND. I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY EAST WEST. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S THE COUNTY IS REALLY TAKING A REAL BIG INVESTMENT ON THE EAST WITH THIS BOND. IT'S REALLY ENCOURAGING, REALLY EXCITING. THE OTHER THING THIS DOES IS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CURRENTLY WHAT YOU'RE CALLING THE GO FORTH ROAD, RIGHT THERE THROUGH YOUR PROJECT, THAT ROAD WILL GO FROM IF THE BOND PASSES. WE ARE, AS A CITY WORKING TO GET THAT ROAD FROM YARRINGTON ALL THE WAY TO BEEBE ROAD, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING. WILL BE HIGH ROAD RIGHT, BRYAN HIGH ROAD. SO IT TOP OFF AT HIGH ROAD. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTIVITY WHICH IS REALLY REALLY MAJOR IMPORTANT FOR US AS A CITY. SO FINGERS CROSSED THE BOND PASSES BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY THE COUNTY IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE DOING A BIG INVESTMENT IN KYLE IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT. THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL, WORKING WITH US AND STAFF FOR DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THESE ROADS. BUT WHAT I WANT TO DEFINITELY CLEAR OUT IS THAT NOVEMBER WILL BE A KEY TIME FOR US. AND BY THE TIME YOU
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GET BACK, WE'LL KNOW WHERE WE ARE STANDING AS A CITY, WHETHER THESE ROADS WILL BE COMING FORWARD OR NOT. AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP US, YOU KNOW, REALLY EVALUATE YOUR PROJECT WITH A DIFFERENT LENS AS WELL. ONCE WE KNOW THOSE ROADS ARE COMING IN. BUT I THINK IT'S A DECENT PROJECT AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY IS A PRESENTATION. I WANT TO ASSURE THE PUBLIC WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING TODAY. THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION TO US AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT LIONHEART HAS PRESENTED HERE TODAY, AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE.WHEN THIS PROJECT DOES COME IN, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CRUCIAL FOR THIS COUNCIL MAKING SURE THE ROAD GETS PUT IN AS BEING ON THE TRAIL, MAKING SURE WE'RE PUTTING THE PARK AND AMENITIES IN A TIMELY MANNER AS WELL. BEFORE WE ISSUE ANY, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, PRIDE OF RESIDENCE CITY? OCCUPATION AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, KEEP THE FINANCIALS IN THE RIGHT PLACE AS WELL. SO. UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU, SIR, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU OH, COUNCILOR HAUSER. ALL RIGHT. THIS WILL BE QUICK, I SHARE SOME OF THE SIMILAR FEEDBACK OR TALKING POINTS THAT THEY HAD IN REGARD TO THE FINANCING OF THINGS AND TIMELINES. HAVE YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN THIS PROJECT WOULD POTENTIALLY BREAK GROUND IF IT WAS TO GO? WE'RE READY TO GO AS SOON AS I KNOW. BUT LIKE REALISTICALLY, BECAUSE LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT IN YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HEARING THAT FEEDBACK IS HOW DOES THAT JIVE WITH WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PLANNING IN TERMS OF THE PHASIN? YES, WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'LL GO BACK AND WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT. AND AS WELL AS COUNTY LINE, WE DO STILL HAVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS TO WORK OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WHOLE SITE CAN BE SERVED. BUT IN TERMS OF GETTING STARTED ON THE PROJECT AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH ZONING, WE'LL BE AND MAYBE EVEN BEFORE WE'LL BE STARTING ON DESIGN FOR GOFORTH ROAD. WE KNOW THAT'S THE FIRST STEP. AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT AWAY, AND GETTING STARTED WITH THE REST OF THE PROJECT. SO WE'RE WE'RE READY TO GO. OKAY. AND ONE MORE THING IN REGARD TO THE GROCER, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE KNOWN OR KNOWS THAT WE HAVE, LONG NEEDED MORE GROCERY OPTIONS IN OUR CITY, ESPECIALLY EAST OF 35, THE FARTHER EAST OF 35 FROM H-E-B AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS INCOMPARABLE OF SIZE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO I'M SITTING UP HERE WITH WHO SEND ME PICTURES OF, FOOD STORE SHELVES AND SUBWAY SANDWICHES AND COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO GET FOOD CLOSE ENOUGH TO THEIR HOME. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR US TO BE OPEN TO CONSIDERING HOW WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE MOMENTUM THAT WE'VE HAD IN CONVERSATION ON HOW WE COULD INCENTIVIZE A GROCER TO FILL SOME OF THAT, THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS FOOD DESERT AND, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DISCUSS WITH MARIGOLD TO SEE IF THERE WAS INCENTIVES ON THE TABLE, IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER EXPANDING IN SIZE? AND I'LL JUST SAY TO COUNCIL, WE'VE GIVEN OUT GIVEN OUT A LOT OF INCENTIVES THAT I BALK AT. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED INCENTIVE. TO BE GIVEN IF IT WOULD BRING A SUBSTANTIALLY SIZE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A WORD, BUT I'M GOING TO GO WITH IT. GROCER TO THIS AREA. I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO THAT FAR. WAIT FOR HIM TO FINISH. I'M FINISHED. OKAY, OKA, COUNCILMEMBER. I'D BE WILLING TO CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IF THE NUMBERS WORK FINANCIALLY AND WE GET THROUGH THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE MENTIONED ABOUT THE PID. THE PID TO ME IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT TO LEAVE A PROJECT THAT DIDN'T MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OR THAT STANDARD THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, HERE ON THIS, ON THIS TRACK. SO THAT JUST COULDN'T DO THAT. I UNDERSTAND, AND I GUESS TO SPEAK TO THE GROCER AND THE SIZE OF THE GROCER TOO, AND POTENTIAL INCENTIVES. ONE OF THE THINGS AND I KNOW MELISSA MENTIONED THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A 380. WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A 380. AS THE DEVELOPER, WE ARE COMMITTING TO BUILDING THAT BUILDING TO THE SIZE, HOWEVER, IN TERMS OF INCENTIVES AND WORKING MARIGOLD, WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE FOUND MARIGOLD GROCER. THEY WE DID AN EXHAUSTIVE SEARCH AND REACHED OUT TO, YOU KNOW, WE KNEW THIS WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KYLE AND IMPORTANT TO THIS SITE. WE DID AN EXHAUSTIVE SEARCH. WE CONTACTED ALL THE GROCERS AND REALLY BY TRUE LUCK WAS REALLY EXCITED TO FIND THIS FAMILY AND THEIR DESIRE TO BE HERE IN KYLE.
SO I THINK ANY ONE THING, ANY INCENTIVE WOULD REALLY BE TO HELP THE GROCER BE AS SUCCESSFUL
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AS POSSIBLE AND BE THAT REALLY LONG TERM RESIDENT FOR KYLE. SO I JUST WANT TO FINISH OFF THE CONVERSATION, SAY I'M EXCITED FOR YOUR PRODUCT. IT'S DIFFEREN. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE KEEP HEARING FROM RESIDENTS, I KEEP HEARING THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE HEARING THIS IS THAT WE NEED OPTIONS HERE AS GROCERY STORE. I MEAN, EVEN IF WE ONE DAY BY CHANCE GOT ANOTHER HEB, IT'S STILL THE SAME FOOD ON THE SHELVES AT THE OTHER HEB TO HAVE OPTIONS IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. SOMETHING THAT I'VE REALLY GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS IS LIKE, WE NEED MORE OPTIONS, MORE FOOD OPTIONS. AND I THINK WE GOT HIV, WE GOT COSTCO, WE GOT WALMART, WE'VE GOT BUT THEY WANT EVEN MORE FOOD OPTIONS TO HAVE A DIFFERENT RETAILER. GROCER IN HERE WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.SO I'M EXCITED FOR MARIGOLD. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'VE GOT A GOOD CONTRACT KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, LOOK IT'S IMPORTANT. LOOK, WHEN Y'ALL FIRST CAME TO US, THE GROCERY STORE CONCEPT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT. YOU UPSIZED IT FROM THE ORIGINAL SIZE AND I APPRECIATE THAT WAS AN ASK FROM COUNCIL WHEN YOU FIRST CAME IN. AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO COME AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE DIOCESE. I KNOW THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING TODAY. THIS IS JUST US GIVING FEEDBACK. SO HOPEFULLY WE GAVE YOU ALL THE FEEDBACK YOU NEEDED, AND TO, TO TRY TO BRING A PROJECT FORWARD. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
[VII) Consent Agenda]
ALL RIGHT. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO PULL ANYTHING OUT OF CONSENT AGENDA? NO, NO. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF. HOLD ON. WE'VE GOT ONE HERE. GOT ONE? OF COURSE. MIGUEL WAS GOING TO PULL SOMETHING. I'M TRYING TO LEARN. YOU KNOW THAT WE WENT AFTER THIS. WE DID IT TWO WEEKS AGO. GO YEAH. GO AHEAD. BRIAN, CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ABOUT ANNEXATION? LIKE THE I GUESS THE WHEN THEY PETITIONED? NO, WE WON'T REANNEXATION. WHAT WHAT IS THAT INVOLVING? DO WE PULL AN ITEM? I'M SORRY. ARE YOU REFERRING TO CONSENT AGENDA OR. YOU THOUGHT WE WERE BACK TO TARA? WHICH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? DID WE PULL AN ITEM? I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT IT. YEAH, BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE THERE'S THREE NON ANNEXATIONS AND I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON THEM OKAY. SO WHAT ITEMS DO YOU WANT TO PULL. WELL WE CAN PULL 21 BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL BASICALLY JUST 21. YEAH. JUST 21. HE'S GOING TO PULL 21 OKAY. JUST GO AHEAD. YEAH. THEN OKAY I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1011 1213 1415 16 1718 1920. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO HOLD BACK ON 21. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY SO TEN THROUGH 22ND. OKAY. WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS TEN THROUGH 20. AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY DOCTOR LEE. DOCTOR HARRIS, ALL THOSE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. HI. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES, SIX[VIII) Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
ZERO. NOW YOU CAN GO TO 21. ALL RIGHT. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 21, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION FOR A, SPONSORSHIP FOR. I'M SORRY. I'M 20. OKAY CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A LETTER AGREEMENT WITHIN THE SUCCESSOR TRUSTEES. HENRY ARMBRUSTER TO PROVIDE A 15 YEAR EXTENSION TO THE NON ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. MELISSA. AND I THINK HE JUST HAS A QUICK QUESTION FOR MELISSA. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAPS, THERE'S LIKE PLOTS THAT ARE IN CITY LIMITS. SOME ARE NOT AND THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE OF THEY'RE NOT ANNEXED OR SOMETHING. SO JUST CLARIFICATION, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHY WHY ARE THOSE PLOTS IN THAT AGREEMENT? YOU KNOW, HOW HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE I GUESS YEAH. SO THE GENERAL PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, GREAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA. SO STATE LAW REQUIRES A CITY'S, PRIOR TO ANNEXATION, IF THE PROPERTIES WERE HELD FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES OR OTHER KIND OF LARGE HOMESTEADS TO OFFER PRIOR TO ANNEXATION, TO OFFER UP A NON ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO WITH THAT, THE CITY ENTERED IN AN AGREEMENT WITH THESE LANDOWNERS THAT SAID, IF AND WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO DEVELOP, YOU'LL ANNEX INTO THE CITY LIMITS AND WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MEANTIME. BUT FOR NOW, WE'LL LEAVE YOU OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS AND CONTINUE TO BE WITHIN THE ETJ, A LITTLE BIT OVERSIMPLIFICATION, BUT THAT'S THAT'S IT. AND THEN IN THESE AGREEMENTS, WE ALLOWED, THE[02:35:06]
ABILITY TO EXTEND THEM IN THESE 15 YEAR INCREMENTS. SO ALL OF THESE THREE AGREEMENTS HAVE COME WERE APPROVED ABOUT THE SAME TIME AND HAVE COME UP. AND THE OPTION FOR THEM TO CONTINUE UNDER THE SAME TERMS THAT THEY HAD BEFORE TO REMAIN IN THE ETJ UNTIL THEY CHOOSE TO DEVELOP.AND IT'S VERY COMMON PRACTICE FOR LARGE PLATS. RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU DON'T TYPICALLY FIND A SINGLE HOMEOWNER. THAT'S NOT CORRECT. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S USUALLY FOR LARGER ACREAGE FOR SURE. AND THEY USUALLY HAD SOME EXEMPTIONS TO BEGIN WITH, WHETHER IT'S AGRICULTURAL EXEMPTIONS OR OTHERWISE. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK PEOPLE JUST WANTED THAT CLARIFICATION. WHAT THIS IS JUST TO ADD ON TO THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS TO REMEMBER IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE FORCED ANNEXATION ANYMORE. SO, THE STATE LEGISLATURE TOOK AWAY FROM US, BUT WE DID DO SOME AGREEMENTS WITH SOME SMALL LANDOWNERS BEFORE WHEN WE WHEN THE CITY WAS STILL ALLOWED TO DO THE FORCED TAXATION. THERE'S A FEW HOMES OFF OF 150 THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXCLUDE AND DO AN AGREEMENT WITH. AND SO THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE WE DO IT WITH SMALL LOTS.
THIS WAS BEFORE YOU WERE ON THE DAIS, PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE YOU WERE ON THE DAIS. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF EXCLUSIONS ON THAT. BUT REALLY WHAT THIS IS, IS JUST TO ASSURE THAT ONE DAY, IF THEY DECIDE TO DEVELOP, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK. IT'S A CONTRACT. IT'S REALLY I THINK I AGREE WITH ALL THOSE THINGS. IT'S REALLY JUST A WAY THAT BOTH PARTIES GET KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME INTO THE CITY. THEY THEY CAN AVOID SOME OF THE REGULATIONS FROM THE CITY, AVOID PAYING PROPERTY TAXES OF COURSE. AND THEN FOR US, WE CONTROL GOING FORWARD THAT IF THE USE EVER CHANGES THEY TRY TO DEVELOP, THEN THEY WILL ANNEX INTO THE CITY AND WE WILL HAVE TO EXERCISE THE ABILITY TO EXERCISE SOME OF THOSE REGULATORY POWERS OVER THAT PIECE OF THEIR LAND IN THE PAST. AND YEARS AGO, CITIES COULD GO IN AND NON-VOLUNTARY INVOLUNTARY ANNEXATIONS. THEY COULD GO IN AND ANNEX PROPERTY.
THESE WERE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE ENTERED INTO TO SAY, LET'S DO SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR BOTH PARTIES, KNOWING THAT AT SOME POINT OVER A 40, 30, 40, OR 50 YEAR PERIOD THAT THE CITY WILL GET THOSE PROPERTIES TO ANNEX. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THESE ARE. THIS IS THE I BELIEVE, THE FIRST RENEWAL OF THIS 15 YEAR AGREEMENT. SO IF THEY'RE NOT ANNEXED, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY'RE IN THE ETJ. RIGHT. SO THIS IS IT DOES MEAN THAT ETJ MEANS NON ANNEXATION. YES. OKAY YEP. OKAY. BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF IT ON 150. SO I'M LIKE I JUST IT GETS BROUGHT UP THAT IT'S ETJ. SO I WAS WELL HOW COULD IT BE ETJ IF THEY'RE IN OUR CITY LIMIT. SO I GUESS THERE'S CRAIG.
IT'S TECHNICALLY A DIFFERENT SO ETJ USUALLY DOES MEAN NOT INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. SO CITY LIMITS IS CITY LIMITS. ETJ IS KIND OF THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE OR THE SURROUNDING OF THE CITY LIMITS.
AND THEN, WITH THE WAY SOME OF THE ANNEXATION HAS BEEN DOING, YOU COULD HAVE SPOTS OF NON CITY LIMITS OR ETJ SURROUNDED BY CITY LIMITS AND THEN AND THEN GO OVER AND HAVE ANOTHER SPOT COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY CITY LIMITS AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, MOTION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 21. SECOND. I GET A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER PARSLEY, ALL. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? IF HE'S IN FAVOR. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT'S LIKE BACK IN THE OLD DAYS WHERE IT'S JUST THE OLD HANDSHAKE WITH FARMERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, YOU KNOW, GOOD FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS IN A WAY. AND SO IT'S JUST A WAY THAT WHEN IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO DEVELOP LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US. AND WE MAKE THOSE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM ON THAT END. YES, SIR. IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU. AT THIS MINUTE, WE'LL TAKE A SHORT RECESS. TEN MINUTES, PLEASE. FIVE. I GOT FIVE. GOOD. TEN. GOOD. FIVE OR CALL. OKAY. FIVE MINUTE BREAK. MAKE SURE TIME IS 953. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL AND ESPECIALLY MAYOR PRO TEM FOR FILLING IN WHILE I WENT TO MY SON'S FALL CHOIR PERFORMANCE. IT WAS AS A MIDDLE SCHOOL CHOIR PERFORMANCE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO BE, MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BETTER. ALL RIGHT. WE JUST PASSED THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA. CORRECT. SO WE'RE NOW ON
[22) Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas determining the costs of certain authorized improvements to be financed within Improvement Area #2 of the Plum Creek North Public Improvement District; Approving a Preliminary Service and Assessment Plan updated for Improvement Area #2, including a Proposed Improvement Area #2 Assessment Roll; Directing the filing of the Proposed Improvement Area #2 Assessment Roll with the city secretary to make available for public inspection; Noticing a public hearing for October 15, 2024 to consider an ordinance levying assessments on property located within Improvement Area #2 of the Plum Creek North Public Improvement District; Directing city staff to publish and mail notice of said public hearing; and resolving other matters incident and related thereto.]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 22. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, DETERMINING THE COSTS OF CERTAIN AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS TO BE FINANCED WITHIN IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO OF THE PLUM CREEK NORTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. ET-CETERA. MISS LIBBY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBER STEPHANIE LIBBY WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT. LONG COUNCIL FOR THE CITY, WE'RE APPEARING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR TWO ACTION ITEMS RELATED TO PLUM CREEK NORTH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. THIS FIRST ACTION ITEM IS RELATED TO IMPROVEMENT AREA[02:40:04]
NUMBER TWO BONDS. THE ADOPTION OF THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN. SO JUST BY WAY OF BRIEF BACKGROUND, THE DISTRICT WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED BY THE CITY IN 2019 2021. THE FIRST ASSESSMENTS WERE ISSUED FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA ONE BONDS AND MAJOR IMPROVEMENT AREA BONDS. WE'RE COMING TO YOU TONIGHT FOR IMPROVEMENT AREA TWO BONDS, WHICH IS THE NEXT AREA OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PIT ITSELF. THE PIT IN TOTAL IS A LITTLE APPROXIMATELY 390 ACRES. OF THAT 390 ACRES, THE IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO IS JUST UNDER 165 ACRES. SO FOR CURRENT STEPS, WE WOULD ADOPT THE PRELIMINARY SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN THAT INCLUDES A PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT ROLE IN CONNECTION WITH THAT ASSESSMENT ROLE. THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WOULD BE HELD PRIOR TO THE FINALIZATION OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS, WE'LL ALSO BE DETERMINING THE COSTS OF THE AUTHORIZED IMPROVEMENTS OR THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO COME INTO THE DISTRICT FOR NEXT STEPS. NOTICE WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN. WILL ALSO MAIL NOTICE TO ALL LANDOWNERS WITHIN THE PIT ITSELF. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 15TH. TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING, ADOPT THE ASSESSMENTS AND ISSUE THE PIT BONDS. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.I DO WANT TO NOTE, WHEN WE TRADITIONALLY DO AN ASSESSMENT LEVY, FOR A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WE USUALLY HAVE THE DEVELOPER AS THE SOLE LANDOWNER AND THIS INSTANCE, THE DEVELOPER HAS STARTED TO SELL LOTS TO INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS. IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT OUR BOND PRICING, BUT IT DOES IMPACT THE NUMBER OF NOTICES THAT HAVE TO BE MAILED OUT. AND SO MANY MORE PEOPLE WILL BE RECEIVING NOTICES RELATED TO THE ASSESSMENTS THEY HAVE RECEIVED. NOTICE OF THE ASSESSMENTS WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTY, THEY KNEW THE PROPERTY WAS WAS WITHIN A PID.
THEY RECEIVED MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF ASSESSMENTS TO BE LEVIED, BUT JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL AND STAFF AS AWARE A HEADS UP THAT THEY DO HAVE THESE INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNER. PEOPLE MAY BE CONTACTING THE CITY WITH QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ASSESSMENTS. MY TEAM, AS BOND COUNCIL, MARK AND ANDREW WITH SAMCO FINANCIAL ADVISORS, CASEY AND JOHN WITH P3. WORKS ARE ALL AVAILABLE WITH CITY STAFF TO HELP ANSWER THOSE INQUIRIES. IF THEY COME IN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS LIBBY. DO
[23) Consider approval of a resolution of the City of Kyle, Texas approving the form and authorizing the distribution of a Preliminary Limited Offering Memorandum for the City of Kyle, Texas Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2024 (Plum Creek North Public Improvement District Improvement Area #2 Project); and resolving other matters incident and related thereto. ]
YOU WANT TO PRESENT ON 23 AS WELL? AT THE SAME TIME, I'LL BRING UP ITEM 23. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS, APPROVING THE FORM AND AUTHORIZING THE DISTRIBUTION OF A PRELIMINARY LIMITED OFFERING MEMORANDUM FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, TEXAS. SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BOND SERIES 2020 FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO. SO AGAIN, STILL RELATED TO PLUM CREEK NORTH PID IMPROVEMENT AREA NUMBER TWO, THIS IS THE OFFERING DOCUMENT THAT FMS BONDS IS UNDERWRITER FOR THE BONDS USES TO MARKET THOSE BONDS TO POTENTIAL BOND INVESTORS. OUR FIRM AS BOND COUNSEL THE SAMCO TEAM AS FINANCIAL ADVISORS P3 CONSULTANTS, CITY STAFF HAVE ALL REVIEWED AND SIGNED OFF ON THAT PRELIMINARY OFFERING MEMO. IF ADOPTED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT OR AUTHORIZED THEN TOMORROW, FMS WOULD POST THAT AND START MARKETING THE BONDS TO POTENTIAL BOND INVESTORS AGAIN. WE WOULD COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL OCTOBER 15TH WITH THE REQUEST FOR THE BOND ISSUANCE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LIBAIRE? NO STAFF. I MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS 22 AND 23.SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS THAT WE APPROVED AGENDA ITEMS 22 AND 23. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ALL
[28) Consider approval of a resolution finding Public Convenience and Necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary, a permanent utility easement over a 853 square foot parcel of land out of a called 1.41 acre tract of land situated in the John Pharass Survey, Section No. 13, Abstract No. 361, in Hays County, Texas, as conveyed to Howard Green, et al. at Volume 571, Page 68 of the deed records of Hays County, Texas, for the public use and purpose of construction of public water and wastewater infrastructure improvements. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]
OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU STEPHANIE I'M GOING TO JUMP TO 28 WHICH IS THE CONDEMNATION. WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY WHO'S PAID HOURLY HERE. SO I'D LIKE TO BRING IT UP QUICKLY. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN, IF NECESSARY, A PERMANENT UTILITY EASEMENT OVER AN 853 SQUARE FOOT PARCEL OF LAND OUT OF A CALLED 1.41 ACRE TRACT OF LAND SITUATED IN THE JOHN FARRIS SURVEY SECTION NUMBER 13, ABSTRACT NUMBER 361.HAYS COUNTY, TEXAS, MISS SCHMUT, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AMBER SMITH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WELL AWARE OF, IT'S THE CYPRESS ROAD UTILITIES PROJECT. EASEMENTS. THIS, IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SAVANNA RANCH DEVELOPMENT, ALSO CALLED THE CLARA VISTA DEVELOPMENT, WHICH CONTEMPLATED THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC WASTEWATER FACILITIES, INCLUDING A FORCE MAIN TO SERVE THE AREA. WE ARE ASKING FOR A 35 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT TO HOUSE THE FORCE MAIN. AND AS SUCH, WE ARE, ACQUIRING PROPERTY FOR THAT.
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HERE'S THE ALIGNMENT, THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE APRIL 2ND, 2024 COUNCIL MEETING. IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN. APPRAISALS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED FOR THE EASEMENT.WE'VE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL TO ACQUIRE THE LAND THROUGH THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS THE PARCEL THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF TONIGHT'S. IT'S PARCEL TEN. WE NEED 853FT■!S, AND IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC USE AND PURPOSE OF PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. SO TONIGHT, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION. FOR THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, IT IT, HAS YOU DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY'S ACQUISITION OF AN INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY, IS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE A PUBLIC USE. AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT DOES THIS PC AND FINDS THAT IT IS NECESSARY AND REQUIRED TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEN THIS HAPPEN, WE ASK YOU TO ISSUE A PCN TO PROCEED WITH EMINENT DOMAIN. SO YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS TONIGHT APPROVE OR DENY. WE RECOMMEND APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE ASKING FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE AT THIS ITEM DOES HAVE PARTICULAR MOTION LANGUAGE THAT'S BEING ASKED. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? BEFORE I READ OUT THE MOTION? COUNCILOR HARRIS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT IMPEDING UPON THE LANDOWNERS USE OF THAT PROPERTY. NO, MA'AM, IT'S NOT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN. TO ACQUIRE PERMANENT UTILITY EASEMENT OF 853FT■!S FROM PROPEY OWNED BY HOWARD GREEN AND OTHERS, AND DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 28 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING PUBLIC WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ROLL CALL. VOTE TOBIAS, I RIZZO, I HARRIS. YES. PARSLEY I MITCHELL. YES. ZUNIGA YES. HEIZER. YES. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. KENT. ALL RIGHT.
[24) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance amending Chapters 11, 23, 29, 41 and 53 of the City of Kyle Code of Ordinances related to food trucks, hours of construction, sign, subdivision and zoning code. Public Hearing ]
NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM 24. FIRST READING. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 11, 23, 29, 41 AND 53 OF THE CITY OF KYLE CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATED TO FOOD TRUCKS, HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION, SIGNS, SUBDIVISION AND ZONING CODE. MR. ATKINSON. I READ THE PAPER AND THEN LOOK UP. IT'S A BAD HABIT. ALL RIGHT, WELL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, BRINGING SOME CODE AMENDMENTS TO YOU. THIS EVENING. WE TOOK THESE TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THEM ALL, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE THAT WE HAD REGARDING AFTER HOURS CONSTRUCTION. SO THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. WE DO HAVE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGES TO THE FOOD TRUCKS AS WELL AS THE SIGN CODE, SIDEWALK EXEMPTIONS AND OUTDOOR MUSIC. THOSE ARE FORWARDED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. WE'LL BRING BACK, ADDITIONAL FUTURE DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE AFTER HOURS CONSTRUCTION. SO FIRST UP IS FOOD TRUCKS. AGAIN THERE ARE VERY LIMITED IN OUR CURRENT ZONING CODE AND ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS ALLOWS THEM IN ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL OR NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO THIS WAS A SMALL MINOR AMENDMENT TO THIS AND THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND THIS APPROVAL REAL QUICK. MAYOR MELISSA, WHAT ARE DO WE HAVE A REGULATION ON HOW MANY TIMES THEY NEED TO BE INSPECTED PER YEAR ON THE FOOD TRUCKS, SO THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE HEALTH CODE VIOLATION, HEALTH CODE PERMITS AND DIFFERENT THINGS FOR THAT AS WELL. SO AND CAN YOU TELL DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF THE HEAD WHAT THE REGULATION, HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR DO THEY HAVE TO I THINK THEY DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS. OH GOOD. THAT'S GREAT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW THERE'S AN ENTITY A CITY NEAR US THAT IS MAKING THEM DO IT A LOT MORE OFTEN. AND I'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE FOOD BANK FOOD TRUCK OWNERS THAT THEY HAVE TO UNHOOK WHERE THEY'RE AT, TAKE THEIR STRUCTURE DOWN SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR, AND THEN GO GET INSPECTED AND THEN COME BACK. SO IT'S KIND OF A BURDEN ON THE FOOD TRUCKS AND THE ANNUAL ONES, PROBABLY A LOT EASIER. SO JUST MAKING SURE WE WEREN'T PUTTING UNDUE BURDEN ON THE FOOD TRUCKS. CORRECT. AND WE DO DEFAULT TO HAYS COUNTY'S REGULATIONS ON THOSE. AND THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT I THINK HAS THEIR OWN AS WELL FOR FIRE SAFETY. THANK YOU. AND NEXT ONE UP WAS THE NOISES. AGAIN. WE ARE[02:50:01]
RECOMMENDING THAT THIS BE LOOKED AT IN THE FUTURE. SO THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE. SO I'M SKIPPING THIS OVER. HOWEVER I AM GOING TO GO INTO SIGNS BASED ON ACTUALLY COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION IS REALLY FOR US TO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR SIGNAGE LOUD IN HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.THIS IS REALLY FOR ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARDS THAT COULD BE USEFUL TO OUR HOA WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THIS DUPLICATED TO ALLOW FOR NONPROFIT OR, FOR CHURCHES THAT WE HAVE OR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS. AND THEN WE ALSO CLARIFIED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE TO ALLOW IT FOR A SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS WERE LEFT OFF AT MIDDLE AND HIGH. WHAT ABOUT THE HOA? THE SUBDIVISION ENTRANCE SIGNS LIKE THIS ADDRESSES THAT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. OKAY YEP. SO WE EXPANDED IT TO NOT ONLY BE FOR HOA, BUT CLARIFY, FOR NON-PROFITS AND THEN ALSO TO CLARIFY FOR SCHOOLS. SO WE EXPANDED IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT IT IS UP FOR THAT. SO WE'RE NOW WE'RE NOW ALLOWING CHURCHES, NON-PROFITS TO DO THE SIGNS.
CORRECT? YES. OKAY. COOL. JUST MAKING SURE WITH THESE AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. SO THIS FIRST ONE IS REALLY TO LOOK AT ALLOWING THEM WITHIN OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AGAIN WE ARE LOOKING AT ALSO HAVING THEM AT ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOLS, WHICH THEY CURRENTLY ALLOWED, AND THEN WITH THAT IT DOES SET UP SOME STANDARDS THAT IT SHOULD BE, OWNED AND ALLOWED ON HOA OWNED PROPERTY. ONLY ONE HOA SIGN IS ALLOWED PER SUBDIVISION. UNLESS IT'S A VERY LARGE SUBDIVISION, THEN IT CAN ALLOW UP TO TWO, AND THEN IT DOES LIMIT THE SIZE AND SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD TO 12FT■!S. AND TN WE DO HAVE SOME STANDARDS THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING FOR DISPLAY. AND ILLUMINATION. AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT THESE TO BE FLASHING MOVING SIGNS, BUT TO REALLY BE KIND OF STATIC IMAGES EVERY SIX SECONDS. AND THEN AGAIN, REALLY KIND OF LIMITING THE DISTRACTION POTENTIALLY, OF NOT HAVING A SOLID WHITE BACKGROUND AS THE SIGN FOR EFFECTS AND TRANSITIONS BETWEEN THE CHANGING AND THAT.
WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR DARK SKY ORDINANCE, REFERENCES IN OUR CODE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY, THAT THE SIGNS TURN OFF, YOU KNOW, LATE AT NIGHT. AND THEN ALSO THAT IF THE SIGN IS NOT WORKING, IT NEEDS TO BE UNPLUGGED. AND THAT, AND THAT IT SHALL BE KEPT IN WORKING ORDER. SO THIS IS KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE LOOK FOR. MESSAGE BOARDS ALREAD. BUT PULLING THIS OVER, AND THEN PLACES OF WORSHIP AND NONPROFIT ALLOWING THESE SAME SIGNS IN THOSE AREAS WITH REALLY KIND OF THE SAME STANDARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MESSAGE BOARDS THAT I JUST HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES. AND THAT, AGAIN, ALSO ALLOWING THESE SIGNS AT ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOLS. CURRENTLY OUR OUR CODE, JUST DIDN'T REFERENCE THE ALLOWANCE AT ELEMENTARY AND WHEN YOU'RE SAYING LATE AT NIGHT, ARE WE GOING TO SET A SPECIFIC TIME. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, LATE AT NIGHT COULD BE DIFFERENT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE? IT IS, I THINK. KAYLA, IS IT LIKE 11:00 PM? I THINK IS AFTER 11. THANK YOU. YEP. MELISSA IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE SIGN RULES THAT WILL REQUIRE THE DIMMING OF THE LIGHTS IN THE EVENING? YES THAT IS REFERENCED BACK TO KIND OF THE DARK SKY STANDARDS THAT REFERENCED THAT AND THEN FULLY SHUT OFF AT 11. SO IT'S BASED ON KIND OF THE LIGHT, THE LIGHT THAT'S OUTSIDE. SO BUT THAT WILL BE CODIFIED IN OUR ORDINANCE TO BE A REQUIREMENT. SO IF A SIGN IS EXTRA BRIGHT AND EXCEEDING THE LUMENS OR WHATEVER, WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE. YES. OKAY THE SIGNS ARE ALSO LIMITED ON ONE PER PLACE OF WORSHIP OR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. AGAIN, THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE AND, STATIC DISPLAY AND ANIMATION THAT I JUST HIGHLIGHTED FOR THAT. AND THAT WOULD HANDLE ALL OF KIND OF THE SIGN ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD SIGNS, NOT ONLY FOR THE HOA SUBDIVISIONS, ALLOWING FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THEN PLACES OF WORSHIP AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SIGNS? NEXT CODE AMENDMENT WAS REALLY IN REFERENCE TO SIDEWALKS AND OLD TOWN. SO WE REALLY KIND OF LOOKED AT WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE, HONESTLY, NOT CURB AND GUTTER JUST KIND OF SIDEBAR DRAINAGE WITHIN OUR TOWN. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT REQUIRING SIDEWALKS ON INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS REALLY LOOKING AT ONLY REQUIRING SIDEWALKS WITHIN THIS MAPPED AREA OF OUR OLD TOWN AREA FOR FOUR OR MORE UNITS WOULD BE REQUIRED, SUB SUBDIVISION AND SIDEWALKS REQUIREMENTS. SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE AN EXCEPTION FOR ANYTHING THREE OR LESS. AND THIS WOULD BE WITHIN THIS MAPPED AREA THAT REALLY HAS NO CURB. AND
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GUTTER. SO IT WOULDN'T BE, REQUIRING INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO UPGRADE CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALKS WITHIN THEIR INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSES. SO THE SIDEWALKS ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR NOT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. BUT I WOULD SAY IN THIS AREA, WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO COMPLY WITH, WITH, WITH SIDEWALKS. IS THERE IS THERE SOME CONSIDERATION TOWARDS HAVING THEM GO AHEAD AND DESIGNATE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR FUTURE? SO THIS DOESN'T ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR MEETING THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS, WHICH USUALLY INCLUDE WATER AND SEWER EXTENSIONS AND OR, ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY IF THAT'S REQUIRED. BUT IT WOULD ELIMINATE THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER HAVING TO BUILD SAID SIDEWALK WHEN THEY COME IN WITH THEIR HOME. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S SORRY TO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M KIND OF GETTING AT. SO IF IT'S A BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF NOT WANTING ONE LOT TO HAVE TO BUILD ONE LITTLE SECTION OF SIDEWALK, THAT'S FROM NOWHERE TO NOWHERE.YES, BUT WHAT I'M THINKING IS IF THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE THEM DEDICATE THAT. SO THAT WHENEVER THE LOTS GET COMPILED TOGETHER AND WE WANT TO DO A SIDEWALK PROJECT AND BUILD ALL OF IT TOGETHER, WILL ALREADY HAVE THAT. YES, IT WILL DO THAT.
I WILL SAY MOST SIDEWALKS ARE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY ANYWAY, OR WITHIN TECHNICALLY WHAT WOULD BE THE STREET AREA AND THIS WILL STILL ALLOW SIDEWALKS TO BE IN THAT AREA. AND WHAT THIS DOES, IT DOESN'T PUT A HUGE BURDEN ON SOMEONE TRYING TO BUILD ONE HOME. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND DEVELOPMENTS AND SUBDIVISIONS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THAT CONVENIENT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A $60,000 SIDEWALK ON SOMEONE TRYING TO BUILD ONE HOUSE, RIGHT? YEAH. I WISH WE HAD DONE THAT WITH THE I-35 OVERLAY, TOO. SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THEM DO EXACTLY THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO ME, BUT THE DEDICATION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY MAKES SENSE. OH, YEAH, THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THE ACTUAL RIGHT OF WAY, THE STREETS. AND SOMETIMES IT'S ON THE PRIVATE ROAD AS WELL. SO I JUST IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO DO IT WITHOUT BUILDING A SIDEWALK, I AT LEAST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO COME THROUGH AND CONSTRUCT THE SIDEWALK AT A TIME OF OUR CHOOSING, WITHOUT HAVING TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM. ABSOLUTELY. I AGREE. SO THIS IS NOT JUST FOR DOWNTOWN, CORRECT? IT'S GOING TO BE EXPANDED TO THIS WHOLE AREA. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WITHIN THE BLOCK MAPPED AREA. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN DOWNTOWN. IT'S HONESTLY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF STORMWATER CURRENTLY WITHIN WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR URBANIZED AREA. FOR THAT I WILL SAY THIS ALSO ONLY APPLIES TO HOMES. IT'S NOT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO IF YOU DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S DOING A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT HAVING SIDEWALKS FOR THAT, AND THE LAST CODE AMENDMENT THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS THE ABILITY POTENTIALLY TO HAVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC WITHIN OUR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, ZONING DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO. AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO IT WOULD DEFAULT TO OTHER STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CODE THAT DO, LIMIT SOME OF THE DECIBEL LEVEL. AND AGAIN THIS WOULD BE LOOKED AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BASED ON WHAT THEY WOULD SUBMIT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. AND IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD, IT WOULD TAKE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION TO HAVE, POTENTIAL OUTDOOR OUTDOOR MUSIC AMPLIFIED.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE CODE AMENDMENTS. SO, AGAIN, THE PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THE FOOD TRUCKS TO ALLOW IN THE ZONING DISTRICTS BY A VOTE OF 6 TO 0, THE SIGN CODE AMENDMENTS, THEY RECOMMENDED THOSE BY A VOTE OF 5 TO 1. THE SIDEWALK EXEMPTIONS, THEY RECOMMENDED, THOSE BY A VOTE OF 5 TO 1. AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC BY A VOTE OF 6 TO 0. OKAY, THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW. SEEING NONE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 24. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEIZER THAT WE APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 24. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCILOR REAL QUICK, WAS THERE ANY CONCERNS FROM PLANNING AND ZONING ON ANY OF THESE CHANGES THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE ANY RESERVATIONS OR JUST THAT YOU KNOW, OF? YEAH, I THINK THE DISSENTING VOTES ON, THE SIDEWALK EXEMPTION WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE, LIKE WE REALLY LOOKED AT IT HOLISTICALLY. I THINK THEY WERE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD LOSE ACCESS TO THE VIBE TRAIL OR OR EVEN THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS. AND REALLY, THE INTENT IS TO NOT BURDEN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS OR SMALL, MAYBE EVEN A DIVISION OF ONE LOT INTO TWO HOMEOWNERS FOR THE SIDEWALKS AND THEN FOR THE SIGNAGE. I DON'T REMEMBER WHY
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ANYBODY FROM PLANNING AND ZONING HAD ANY CONCERNS, JUST SO THAT WAY, IF THEY'RE EVER ADDRESSED, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M JUST SORRY. I KNOW WE'RE ABOUT READY TO APPROVE IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE APPRECIATE WALKING UP HERE. I'VE BEEN SITTING A WHILE. YEAH, YEAH. I'M SORRY. I'M THE SAME WAY WE SYNTHESIZE. WAS THERE ANY CONCERNS OR ANY OF THE ANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT, WAS THERE ANY CONCERNS THAT FROM YOUR YOUR COMMISSIONERS THERE THAT HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON OR WE WALKED THROUGH IT LIKE YOU HAVE. OKAY.AND REALLY, WE FOUND NO PROBLEMS WITH THE SIGNS. THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHAT IT REALLY WAS THE DISCUSSION WAS SIDEWALKS, OKAY. AND WHY? AND INDEED IT WAS CORRECTLY REPRESENTED AS THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT VIBE TRAILS OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER ISSUES REGARDING PUBLIC ACCESS AND SO FORTH. BUT THE CORE OF THAT WAS, THOUGH WE WANT TO DO INFILL, AND IN THIS AREA IS ONE GOOD AREA FOR INFILL. OKAY OF HOMES, FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN SEE THAT UP AND DOWN BURLESON ALL OVER. ARE YOU GOING TO BURDEN SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WITH BUILDING A SIDEWALK WHEN THEY'RE ON A BUDGET TO BUILD A HOME? AND IN ONE CASE, I KNOW THERE WAS A HOME THAT WAS ON A CORNER. AND THE BURDEN OF POURING A SIDEWALK AROUND A CORNER LOT WOULD BE PROHIBITIVE TO EVEN BUILDING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL. SO IT'S THAT KIND OF CONCERN WHERE YOU'RE REALLY WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET SOME INFILL HERE WITHOUT BURDENING PEOPLE WITH THIS EXTRA COST, BECAUSE IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS AREA, IT'S ALL DITCHES. YEAH. UTILITIES, THE POOLS, YOU KNOW GUTTERS. YEAH. HOW'S ANY HOMEOWNER GOING TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL THAT AND THAT THAT WAS A CENTRAL CONCERN WITH THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS SCRATCHED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE ONE WE SCRATCHED. I'D LIKE TO HEAR ON THAT. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT. SO WE DID, CONSIDER YOUR TIME. I WILL SAY THAT RIGHT OFF THE BAT, WHEN WE DISCUSSED WHETHER OR NOT COUNCIL SHOULD GIVE APPROVAL FOR LATE NIGHT CONSTRUCTION OR IT BE A BUILDING OFFICIAL, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOUR AGENDA LONGER THAN IT ALREADY IS. OKAY? BUT WE REALLY BALKED AT THE IDEA. HALF OF US, IT WAS A 3 TO 3 SPLIT, WHICH IS PRETTY UNUSUAL. YEAH HALF OF US THOUGHT THAT IT WAS REALLY PERHAPS AN ISSUE WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE. IT WAS VERY IT WAS TOO WORDY, I THINK, WAS THE TERM THAT YOU USED. IT WAS TOO WORDY, TOO EASILY MISCONSTRUED OR MISREAD, PERHAPS AS A RESULT, THE OTHER THING WAS THAT WE WERE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, MOST PARTICULARLY COMFORTABLE WITH LEAVING THIS KIND OF DECISION FOR LATE NIGHT CONSTRUCTION IN THE HANDS OF A BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHICH IS NOT A PERSON, IT'S AN OFFICE. IT'S A IT'S A POSITION WITH THE CITY. AND THAT THAT PERSON, IN MY VIEW, COULD BE UNFAIRLY BURDENED WITH REQUESTS FOR LATE NIGHT CONSTRUCTION AND NOT BE AS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CITY'S CITIZENS AS WOULD THE CITY COUNCIL. NOW, I THINK ALSO IF LATE NIGHT CONSTRUCTION RISES TO THE LEVEL OF A CITY COUNCIL HEARING IT OUT, THEN THE MESSAGE IS THE CITY COUNCIL CARES ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT THE CITIZENS ARE LIVING IN, AND YOU KNOW THAT THAT MEANS THAT IT'S A HIGH BAR, ADMITTEDLY, BUT THAT THAT'S A MESSAGE, I THINK. AND HAVING A HIGH BAR THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY GIVE CONSIDERATION TO BY ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND SINCE YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTIONS, I'LL JUST BRING THIS TO MIND. ONCE WHEN THE LAYMAN EXPANSION WAS HAPPENING. RIGHT. YOU YOURSELF BROUGHT UP THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY POINT WAS, I BROUGHT THAT UP.
BUT MY POINT WAS, HOW MUCH DO WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT? JUST THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHAT THEY MAY BE BURDENED WITH. SO SPLIT 3 TO 3 WHEN IT COMES BACK WITH NEW LANGUAGE, WE'LL HAVE TO VISIT THAT. BUT MY POSITION AND I THINK AMONG THE THREE OF US THAT WAS FAIRLY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS AN ISSUE OF HOW HIGH A BAR DO YOU SET NOW TIME IS MONEY. I MADE THAT POINT. WE ALL KNOW IT. AND SO YOU WANT AN EFFICIENT PROCESS FOR GETTING YOUR CONSTRUCTION.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN, SOME MORE LOUDLY THAN OTHERS, HAVE BEEN REALLY GIVING US A LOT OF HEAT. ALL OF US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE INCONVENIENCES OF THIS, OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY. AND SO WE HAVE TO AT CRITICAL POINTS, IN MY OPINION, REALLY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THIS IS NOT SMALL STUFF. WHEN YOU BUILD A, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPMENT OR A RETAIL PROJECT WITHIN 600FT OF SOMEBODY'S HOMES OR A SUBDIVISION. SO OUR, OUR THING WAS HAVE A HIGH BAR AND LET THEM COME IF THEY NEED IT, LET THEM COME TO THE COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT IT RATHER THAN PUTTING THE PRESSURE ON A POSITION OF
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BUILDING OFFICIAL. AND THAT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MAYOR, BECAUSE FOR SOMEBODY WHO DRIVES TO WORK EVERY DAY AT 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, IN THE MORNING, AND I'M STUCK ON THE HIGHWAY BECAUSE THEY GOT THE HIGHWAY SHUT DOWN, WHO'S TO SAY WHEN WE START BUILDING OUR ROADS HERE AGAIN? WE JUST HAD A BIG PRESENTATION ABOUT IT THAT THEY SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO NEED A PUSH BACK IF WE CAN, TO START POURING THE ASPHALT OR WHATEVER. WE'RE ASKING TO START IT AT 10:00 AT NIGHT AND GO ALL THE WAY TO FIVE IN THE MORNING, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF SUBDIVISION. IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF BEEBE ROAD. AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLARIFYING ON THAT END, BECAUSE ARE WE GOING TO BE FLEXIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT POINT? BECAUSE WE MAY LOOK AT IT LIKE IF WE SHUT DOWN THE ROADS DURING THE DAY, DURING A BUSY TIME, JUST SO THEY CAN GET THE ROADS BUILT, MARKETPLACE, STAGECOACH, WHATEVER, ARE WE GOING TO LOOK BACK NOW? WELL, ACCORDING TO OUR CODE, NONE OF THESE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES CAN START LAYING DOWN ANY OF THE ASPHALT BECAUSE WE HAVE A CODE IN PLACE TO WHERE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO IT AT NIGHT. SO WE MAY BE HAVING TO LOOK AT THIS ONCE ONCE THAT GETS UP AND GOING. SO YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THE LANGUAGE. YEAH. YEAH. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. CUSTOMER HARRIS YEAH, WHAT I'VE FOUND IS THAT RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPERS OF ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY ARE GETTING THEIR RESPONSES PROMPTLY. AND WHAT HAPPENED THIS SUMMER? AND I SAW IT HAPPEN AND GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT. BUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE READY TO POUR FOUNDATIONS IN THE 100 DEGREE HEAT JUST WENT AHEAD AND POURED THEM. THEY DID NOT ASK FOR PERMISSION FROM ANYBODY. IT WAS SO MUCH EASIER TO GO AHEAD. AND IT WAS A ONE NIGHT POUR. IT'S OVER AND DONE AND IT WOULD JUST HAVE TAKEN THEM TOO LONG TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'VE SEEN IS THAT IT'S NOT BEEN THE NOISE ORDINANCES ARE NOT BEING ENFORCED, BECAUSE I KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT OVER BY THE POST OFFICE. THEY STARTED BEFORE DAWN, DOING SOME OF THAT WORK AND THEY'RE STILL GOING LATE OR WORKING TOO EARLY, WHICH IS REALLY MAKING THE RESIDENTS.WE'LL BRING THAT BACK FOR OUR FUTURE DISCUSSION. YEAH, NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. YEAH. I WAS WONDERING WHY WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS WHEN IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA. WELL, WELL, SORRY. YEAH, I MEAN, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ABSOLUTELY CONSIDERED IT, WE DID REMOVE IT FROM THE ORDINANCE. SO IF YOU ADOPT THESE FOUR CODE CHANGES, IT WILL NOT INCLUDE ANY. WE DON'T RECOMMEND THE CHANGE AT THIS TIME. WE'LL CONSIDER IT FURTHER. AND IF THERE'S BROUGHT BACK, BRING IT BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS. ANY CONSIDERATION TOWARDS HAVING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TAKE FIRST LOOK AT IT. IT'S KIND OF A MIX BETWEEN THE TWO VERSIONS. SO IT'S NOT WE'RE ADDING MORE THINGS TO OUR AGENDA. HONESTLY, I'M NOT SURE IT'S REALLY EVEN NEEDED. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAME IN AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT I DON'T THINK MELISSA AND I REALLY TALKED ABOUT A LOT, BUT WE DON'T GET ENOUGH OF THOSE COMPLAINTS OR ENOUGH OF THOSE ISSUES THAT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO DELEGATE THAT AUTHORITY TO SOMEONE ELSE. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL
[25) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance amending building permit fees associated with the construction of residential ADA ramps and Home Improvement Program, which amends the fee schedule that was included in Appendix A and adopted as part of the as fiscal year 2024-25 budget. Public Hearing ]
OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU MELISSA. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25. FIRST READING. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING BUILDING PERMIT FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF RESIDENTIAL ADA RAMPS AND HOME IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH AMENDS THE FEE SCHEDULE. THAT WAS INCLUDED IN APPENDIX A AND ADOPTED AS PART OF FISCAL YEAR 24, 25 BUDGET. I THINK WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS. THIS JUST PERFECTS THE ITEM THAT WE VOTED ON. OR IS THERE ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE ALREADY UNDERSTAND THIS ITEM TO BE, THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT? NO. HERE'S MY FANCY CODE AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT. SO SEE THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW. SEEING NONE. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.MOTIONS. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 25 AS WRITTEN. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PARSLEY THAT WE APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 25. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED.
MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP, FIRST AND FINAL. YEAH. ANY OBJECTION TO THIS ITEM BEING FINALLY PASSED? SEEING NONE IT'S FINALLY PASSED. AND SO ON THAT NOTE. AND NUMBER 24, ANY OBJECTION TO ITEM 24 BEING FINALLY PASSED. NO. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, IT'S FINALLY PASSED. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. AGENDA ITEM 13 FIRST READING. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE, THE CITY OF KYLE. CODE OF ORDINANCES PER THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OF THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, TEXAS, SO THAT WE CAN FINALLY PASS IT AS WELL. OH, JUST NEED A SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION IS TO RECONSIDER AGENDA ITEM 13. IS
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THERE DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0.MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER. PARTIALLY TO APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 13. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.
ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS ITEM BEING FINALLY PASSED?
[26) Consider approval of a resolution authorizing the City Manager to execute all documents necessary to purchase properties located at 208-246 Republic Drive.]
SEEING NONE? IT IS FINALLY PASSED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO PURCHASE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 208 TO 246 REPUBLIC DRIVE. MR. LOPEZ. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL DAVID LOPEZ, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, AS OUR STAFFING NEEDS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION INCREASE, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO RESEARCH PROPERTIES TO MEET THOSE GROWING NEEDS TO HOUSE OUR STAFF AND TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE WORKSPACE, 208 AND 246 REPUBLIC DRIVE ARE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. IT'S LOCATED EAST OF 35 OFF OF BEEBE ROAD IN REPUBLIC DRIVE, THIS PROPERTY NOT ONLY MEETS HOUSING NEEDS, BUT ALSO OFFERS SOME MULTI-PURPOSE PROGRAMING OPPORTUNITY, THIS WOULD BE IDEAL FOR OUR BEAUTIFICATION TEAM AS WELL AS OUR RECREATION TEAM AND OUR ADMIN TEAM. JUST, SOME PROGRAMING SPACE FOR EACH BUILDING. BUILDING ONE FOR, RECREATION AND ADMIN AND BUILDING TWO FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION TEAM. SO YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO, TO APPROVE AS, AS PRESENTED OR DENY ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? INITIALLY MAYOR PRO TEM. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA 26. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO PURCHASE A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 208 AND 246 REPUBLIC DRIVE, NOT TO EXCEED 3.775 MILL. SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCILOR HARRIS THAT WE APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 26, NOT TO EXCEED 3,775,000, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS, JUST REAL QUICK, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SPACES YOU'RE NEEDING FOR THE EMPLOYEE, AND I THINK THIS WILL BE A GOOD LOCATION. AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO TRY TO FIND SOME SPACE FOR YOUR FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? DAVID, THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE IT. YES SIR. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED?[27) Consider approval of a resolution allocating American Rescue Plan Act 2021 funding to specific projects.]
ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. DON'T GO TOO FAR, DAVID. NEXT UP ON 27. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION ALLOCATING AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT 2021 FUNDING TO SPECIFIC PROP PROJECTS. MISS SCHMITZ, SORRY, I'M. I HAD SOME COFFEE RUNNING UP HERE. YEAH, AND I MISSED THE FIRST HALF, SO I HAVE EXTRA ENERGY. GOOD EVENING, AMBER SMITH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AGAIN, HERE'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND ABOUT THE PROJECT OR THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU. PREVIOUSLY, YOU HAD APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO SPEND ALL OF THE ARPA FUNDING APPROXIMATELY $12.2 MILLION ON THE COUNTY ROAD 158 WATER FACILITIES PROJECT, IT INVOLVES AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, SOME PUMPING STATIONS, ALL OF THE ANCILLARY FACILITIES TO HELP THAT RUN THERE, HOWEVER, THE FUNDING FOR ARPA MUST BE ENCUMBERED BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2024. SO THIS YEAR. SO WE HAVE JUST A FEW MONTHS LEFT, WE HAVE 100% DESIGN ON THE ELEVATED WATER STORAGE TANK THERE. THE GROUND STORAGE TANK AND THE PUMP STATION. IT WAS COMPLETED ON MAY 17TH OF 2024, THEY SENT IT THROUGH TO BE REVIEWED BY THE FAA, AND IT WAS FOUND TO BE IN THE FLIGHT PATH OF THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL AIRPORT. AND WE THEY THEY HAVE DENIED, THE DESIGN AS OF THIS TIME. AND SAN MARCOS REGIONAL AIRPORT, FILED A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE STORAGE TANK. SO THIS HAS A FUNDING IMPACT TO ARPA, DUE TO THE CHANGES IN THE PROJECT, WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS, THEY'RE VERY EASY TO SPEND. WE JUST NEED TO APPLY THEM TO OTHER PROJECTS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO ASK YOU FOR PERMISSION TO DO. WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO APPLY 7.8 MILLION APPROXIMATELY AT THE WATER FACILITIES FOR THE GROUND STORAGE TANK, THE PUMPING STATION, ETCETERA, WE HAVE A $2.36 MILLION NON POTABLE WATER PROJECT COMING TO YOU SOON. AND THEN WE CAN APPLY FOR PAST PURCHASE. WE CAN APPLY SOME OF THESE FUNDINGS FOR THE PAST PURCHASES OF PROPERTY. SO FOR GENERAL MUNICIPAL PURPOSES. AND SO THE REMAINDER OF THAT WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO APPLY FOR SOME OF THE PURCHASES THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE. SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE. AND OF COURSE WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU[03:15:01]
APPROVE THE RESOLUTION SO WE COULD MOVE FORWARD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MISS SMITH. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MOTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA, YEAH. I MEAN, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE RESERVATIONS WITH IS SPENDING THE MONEY FROM THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AND MOVING THAT. SO WHY DO WE HAVE CONFIRMATION LETTER CONFIRMATION FROM THE FAA OR THE SAN MARCOS THAT WE'RE. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, WHY WOULD THE PLANE EVEN FLY THAT LOW? I THINK THAT'S SERIOUS. IF THAT IS THE CASE. SURE. YES, SIR. SO WE DO HAVE CONFIRMATION THAT IT'S IN THE FLIGHT PATH. IT'S IN THE FLIGHT PATH OF A PROPOSED EXPANSION TO THE RUNWAY OF THE REGIONAL AIRPORT, HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FAA. WE DO HAVE UNOFFICIAL, I GUESS, CONFIRMATION THAT THEY MIGHT BE RECONSIDERING AND THEY MIGHT END UP APPROVING IT, WHICH WOULD BE FANTASTIC. BUT WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO WAIT ON THESE ARPA FUNDS. OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THEM. SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. I MEAN, THESE THESE FUNDS JUST NEED TO GET ENCUMBERED. SO OTHERWISE WE RISK LOSING THEM. SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT PROJECT THEY APPLY TO. WE WOULD STILL, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STILL BUILD THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. WE NEED IT, ON THAT SIDE OF THE CITY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY SECOND CONCERN, IS THAT I DON'T WANT INSUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE GOING IN BECAUSE WE HAVE WATER PRESSURE, PLAIN PRESSURE PROBLEMS, CROPPING PROBLEMS. AND WE DON'T NEED TO EXACERBATE THOSE ISSUES. ABSOLUTELY SO WE WOULD IF IT'S DISAPPROVED THERE AT THAT LOCATION, WE WOULD WORK TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION IN THE SAME PRESSURE PLANE TO DO THE SAME JOB THAT IT WAS MEANT TO DO AT THAT LOCATION. ARE WE GOING TO USE THE SAME PLANS BECAUSE I REMEMBER THESE PLANS WERE EXPENSIVE. AT 600,000. SO WOULD THOSE PLANS STILL BE THE SAME? I FOR IF THE WHAT I'M ASSUMING IS Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING FINDING ANOTHER SITE LOCATION, RIGHT? WE HAVE AN ELEVATED TANK, CORRECT? WE WOULD FIND ANOTHER SITE LOCATION AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEE, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERY SITE IS UNIQUE AND EVERY ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS UNIQUE IN EVERY, YOU KNOW, THE LOCATION WITHIN THE SYSTEM WOULD BE UNIQUE. SO I, I'M SURE THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO USE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. OUR FINGERS ARE CROSSED THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH HAVING IT AT THIS LOCATION. THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC, BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE GROUND STORAGE TANK. THE PUMPING STATIONS, ALL THE OTHER ANCILLARY FACILITIES, AND WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO, TAKE THE WATER THAT ARWA IS, IS SENDING AT THAT PARTICULAR TAKE POINT WITHOUT THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK THERE. SO WE CAN STILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR WATER, WE CAN STILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ARPA FUNDING, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE THE ELEVATED STORAGE. WE DID GET, I THINK AS AMBER REFERENCED, WE DID GET SOME POSITIVE NEWS BACK THAT THERE MAY BE AN OPTION TO KEEP IT AT THIS LOCATION. BUT FOR US, IT'S REALLY JUST A TIMING QUESTION WITH THE FUNDS AND GETTING THOSE ENCUMBERED, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A NEW PLAN IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE NO FUNDS ARE LOST. AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE, THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK CAN OCCUR AT THAT LOCATION. BUT IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE. ALL THE PRESSURE THAT'S NEEDED TO PLAN OUT THAT SYSTEM ON ON THAT PORTION OF THE CITY. RIGHT. BECAUSE I REMEMBER THAT WAS A VERY CRITICAL STORAGE TANK, AND WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT, AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ALREADY INADEQUATE IN SOME STORAGE TANK, ON SOME, SOME OF THEM OVER THERE. SO I REMEMBER WE NEED A FEW MORE. SO I DON'T WANT TO DISSERVICE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT 100%. IT'S NOT A STAFF. YOU KNOW, THING THAT'S GOING ON. IT'S THE FFA. SO YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT STAFF DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.STAFF WANTS TO DO IT. BUT THE FAA IS STOPPING US RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT STAFF'S DOING. IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING STAFF IS DOING KNOW. YOU'RE TAKING IT OUT OF CONTEXT.
IT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING. I'M SAYING IT FEELS LIKE IT. I STILL WANT GOOD INFRASTRUCTURE TO GO IN. I DON'T WANT US TO TAKE A SHORTCUT AND NOT BUILD A STORAGE TANK. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WHEN YOU SAY THE SHORTCUT STAFF IS NOT TRYING TO TAKE A SHORTCUT, THE FFA STOPPED THIS TANK FROM GOING IN, SO IT'S NOT STAFF TRYING TO TAKE A SHORTCUT. THAT'S WHERE THE LANGUAGE YOU'RE YOU'RE IMPLYING AND THE PUBLIC LISTENING IS GOING TO THINK THAT STAFF IS TRYING TO DO THIS. MAY I ASK A QUESTION? MY HAND WAS U, STARTED TALKING. SO IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO BUILD THE ELEVATED, STORAGE TANK IN THE LOCATION WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO BE USING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THE FUNDS, ARPA FUNDS SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE INCOMING WATER AND BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH IT. WE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO BE USING THE FUNDS FOR THE
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ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AT THAT LOCATION. EXACTLY. NOW IN THE FUTURE, IF THEY WERE TO APPROVE FOR US TO BUILD THAT STORAGE TANK, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE CAN PULL FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. CORRECT. WE'LL PULL. YEAH ABSOLUTELY. YES. AND MAYOR PRO TEM IS CORRECT. THIS IS NOT A STAFF CHOICE. WE ARE NOT. NO ONE HAS SAID THAT THIS IS A STAFF THING, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE DEVELOPERS WERE GOING TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE COST OF A STORAGE TANK. SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORK THAT BACK OUT? THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING. IT'S IN THERE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SPEND 2 MILLION IN PROPERTY ACQUISITION, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN CONTROL. IF THE STORAGE TANK CANNOT GO IN THERE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE IN A FLIGHT PATH, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, ARE WE RUSHING THIS BECAUSE WATER IS COMING. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. MIGUEL, THERE'S A DEADLINE. WELL HANG ON. YEAH. SO WE'RE HAVING TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS AT THE SAME TIME. ONE IS ABOUT BUILDING WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THE OTHER IS ABOUT USING THE ARPA FUNDS. RIGHT. SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING. SO FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK YOU PUT A COUPLE MILLION FOR THE DOWNTOWN PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS. THAT'S CASH THAT WE JUST SPENT THAT WE GET TO BACK CHANNEL IN AND FILL BACK UP INTO THE GENERAL FUND. THAT CAN THEN BE APPLIED LATER. SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT CASH FLOW MANAGEMENT AND THEN SEIZING 100% OF EVERY GRANT DOLLAR THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US. SEPARATE FROM ALL THAT IS THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK PROJECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD, THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, THAT. I'M VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET RESOLVED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. WE ARE GOING TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. THE RIGHT WAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR. THAT THAT IT'S STILL PLANNED AND DESIGNED TO SUSTAIN AND STABILIZE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. ABSOLUTELY. AND TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT DEVELOPER, WE WOULD CHARGE THE DEVELOPER IMPACT FEES, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN. SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WHERE IT'S BUILT, WE WILL STILL CHARGE THE DEVELOPER THE IMPACT FEES TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND YOU MIGHT EVEN WANT TO ADD TO THAT THAT THE DEVELOPER ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO BUILD THIS, BUT WHAT THEY WANTED IN EXCHANGE FOR BUILDING IT AND PAYING FOR IT, WHICH YOU NOTICED WAS SORT OF A TO APPLY IMPACT FEES FOR THEIR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY HADN'T BUILT YET AND GET CREDITS FOR THOSE AT THE OLD IMPACT FEE RATES. AND THEN SO ESSENTIALLY, BY ALLOWING THEM TO BUILD IT, WE WERE ONLY GETTING HALF THE DOLLARS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE OTHERWISE GOTTEN FROM THEM. SO THE IMPACT FEES, WE SAID NO, WE'LL BUILD IT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE HIGHER IMPACT FEES, WHICH WILL RECUPERATE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE COST OF THE ELEVATED. SO IT'S JUST BETTER. IT'S A BETTER IT WAS IT WAS GOING TO BE A BETTER DESIGN, IS WHAT I HEARD. AND SO IT WAS A BETTER DESIGN IN THAT WE'RE BUILDING IT BETTER, ENHANCING THAT WATER STORAGE. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF JUST WANTING TO KEEP IT AT THAT, AT THAT LEVEL THAT WE HAD INTENTIONALLY, INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED. YEAH. I GUESS MY POINT IS JUST TO SAY, SOMETIMES WHEN WE ASK DEVELOPERS TO PAY FOR THINGS UP FRONT, WE KIND OF SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT BECAUSE THEY GET SUCH A BETTER DEAL FOR THEIR CASH. THE COST OF CAPITAL FOR US TO GET THEIR MONEY MEANS THAT IT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT END UP COSTING US TWICE AS MUCH DOWN THE ROAD. BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO FIND, IF WE HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION, DOES THAT MEAN THAT PROPERTY HAS TO BE BOUGHT FOR. RIGHT. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO WE ALL NEED TO CONSIDER THE WHOLE PICTURE. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS SAYING WE'RE JUST GOING TO BUILD IT LATER. YES YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD IT LATER, BUT YOU DON'T OWN THAT LAND YET. AND NO DEVELOPER'S GIVING IT TO YOU YET. SO NOW THERE'S ANOTHER COST TO THIS, CORRECT? RIGHT RIGHT. TODAY IS THE DISCUSSION IS REGARDING THE USE OF THE ARPA FUNDS FOR THE WATER TOWER IN MIND. THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS BROUGHT UP WITH. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DISCUSSING. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MOTION'S MOTION I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 27. SECOND SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PARSLEY TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 27. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION[30) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on the design process for Lake Kensington Nature Park.]
CARRIES 7 TO 0. WE'RE GOING TO PASS OVER ON 29. WE'RE GOING TO DO THE 30 RECEIVER REPORT, HOLD DISCUSSION, PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON THE DESIGN PROCESS FOR LAKE KENSINGTON NATURE PARK.MR. LOPEZ. DAVID LOPEZ, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, HERE TO TALK ABOUT LAKE KENSINGTON NATURE PARK DESIGN. QUICK OVERVIEW. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON THE PROJECT.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE RFQ AND THE PROPOSED DESIGN PROCESS. AND WE'RE SEEKING FEEDBACK AND DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. SO LAKE KENSINGTON NATURE PARK IS 105 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY LOCATED AT 2400 DAISY LANE. A FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS COMPLETED RECENTLY. BACK IN JUNE, IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY PROJECT FOR 2025 AND 2026. CIP 2025 BEING THE BEGINNING OF THE DESIGN PROCESS. THIS IS TO BE PROGRAMED AS A PREMIER NATURE PARK FOR THE CITY, WITH A HEALTHY BUDGET OF $17 MILLION AND THE RFQ FOR DESIGN SERVICES WAS ADVERTISED
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LAST WEEK ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, AND THAT WILL CLOSE ON THE 17TH OF OCTOBER. SO FOR THE RFQ, WE HAVE SET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA FOR SELECTING THE APPROPRIATE FIRM TO DESIGN THIS PROJECT FOR US.WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS. WE'RE LOOKING AT THEIR ABILITY TO EFFECTIVELY ENGAGE THE PUBLIC AND DO PUBLIC OUTREACH SESSIONS WITH DESIGN CHARRETTES. WE'RE LOOKING FOR COMPARABLE PROJECTS AND REFERENCES THEY'VE DONE, PARTICULARLY WITH NATURE PARKS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THEIR METHODOLOGY AND SCHEDULING STRATEGY FOR SUCH A PROJECT. FOR THE DESIGN PROCESS, AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT AN RFQ OUT, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ASSEMBLING A PANEL TO REVIEW THOSE RFQ SUBMISSIONS. AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME DIRECTION ON. BUT THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO START WITH IS FOR PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE DESIGNING THE CONCEPTS, GATHERING PUBLIC INPUT. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, DOING DESIGN CHARETTES. WE WANT TO BRING 2 TO 3 CONCEPTS BACK TO COUNCIL AND PARK BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. AND FEEDBACK. AND THEN WE WANT TO BRING A FULL DESIGN CONTRACT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR THE DECIDED ON CONCEPT. SO WE CAN GO INTO DEVELOPMENT OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE PROJECT, WHAT WE NEED DIRECTION ON IS IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ASSEMBLE A TASK FORCE FOR THE PROJECT, AND IF COUNCIL DOES PROVIDE DIRECTION TO ASSEMBLE A TASK FORCE, WE WOULD COME BACK NEXT MEETING WITH, A RESOLUTION FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE TASK FORCE. AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK.
ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMENTS FOR MR. LOPEZ? MAYOR PRO TEM. YEAH. THANK, JUST WITH ALL OUR OTHER PARK PROJECTS, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A REALLY, A TASK FORCE AND PRIDE IN PLACE, TO BRING COUNCIL. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FEEDBACK AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, I THINK IT'S WISE TO GO THROUGH THAT SAME, YOU KNOW, PATTERN THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH. I MEAN, IT'S PROVED REALLY GOOD WITH OUR OTHER PARK PROJECTS. SO TO HAVE A TASK FORCE, I THINK IS GOING TO BE CRUCIAL. AND, I'D LOVE TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO THAT AS DAS ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS? SAME THING. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT, THE THREE THREE PERSON TASK FORCE TO BE ABLE TO HELP BRING SOME OF THE CONCEPTS ON THAT END. I'M IN FAVOR FOR THIS. I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY IN KENSINGTON AND IN SOUTH LAKE, VERY EXCITED FOR THE POSSIBILITY TO HAVE THAT NATURE PARK THERE, I WOULD ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO OUR PUBLIC ON THIS ONE. THIS WOULD BE A VERY HUGE DEAL FOR, PROJECT ON ON EAST SIDE OF KYLE, BUT JUST IT'LL BE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY ITSELF. SO IF WE CAN ENGAGE WHENEVER WE DO COME UP WITH CONCEPT DESIGNS, WE CAN COME UP AND DO AN OPEN HOUSE FOR THE PUBLIC. WHETHER WE COULD DO IT THERE AT THE LOCAL SCHOOL, NEAR SCIENCE HALL OR WHEREVER, AND JUST GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, ON THAT END AND BE VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT ELSE, WHAT ELSE? THE, THE PARKS COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON. SO I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED FOR THIS. SO ALL RIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? I FIGURED THE TWO SPOKEN ARE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN SERVING. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO SERVE? I SEE DOCTOR HARRIS. YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT. YEAH DEFINITELY, I'D LOVE TO SERVE ON THIS. I THINK THE EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD WITH THE OTHER PARKS IN, IN OUR CITY, WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THIS PROJECT, SO I'D LOVE TO BRING MY EXPERIENCE TO IT. COUNCIL FOR TOBIAS, HAVING THIS IN YOUR BACKYARD, YOUR NEIGHBOR. PRECISELY. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. AND COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS HAS SHOWN A LOT OF INTEREST IN OUR PARKS. ALL RIGHT, IN OUR OUR PARK BOARD. YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA HAS SERVED ON ANY OF THESE. TASK FORCE. IN REGARD TO ANY OF THE PARKS. SO IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING? I MEAN, I WANT TO I WANT TO LET OTHERS, YOU KNOW, GET INVOLVED WITH THIS IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT. I Y'ALL KNOW I'M A LIBRARY GUY. SO IF THIS WERE A LIBRARY, I WOULD WANT TO BE ON IT. SO THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE MIGUEL. SO THAT'S A NO. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOVE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE, CREATING A TASK FORCE FOR LAKE KENSINGTON AND ASSIGNING A MAYOR PRO TEM RESO. COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS FOR THAT TASK FORCE. SECOND MOTION BY THE MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER PARSLEY, THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM AS STATED IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE ALL
[31) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the 2025 Kyle Fair-A Tex-Travaganza.]
OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP, AGENDA ITEM 31. RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION.[03:30:04]
PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE 2025 KYLE FAIR TECH EXTRAVAGANZA. MR. LOPEZ.DAVID LOPEZ, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, HERE TO SEEK FEEDBACK FOR KYLE FAIR 2025 AND 2026. QUICK OVERVIEW. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, WHAT WE DID WELL LAST YEAR, WHAT WE FEEL WE COULD DO BETTER. WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SCHEDULE. VERY HIGH LEVEL. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR KYLE FAIR FOR 2025. AND ALSO GET SOME DIRECTION AND FEEDBACK FOR THE FUTURE. SO A QUICK HISTORY. THIS IS THE THIRD ANNUAL KYLE FAIR EVENT. IT'S A FREE THREE DAY EVENT. IT'S HISTORICALLY THE THIRD WEEKEND OF MAY AT LAKE KYLE PARK. WE HAVE LIVE MUSIC VENDORS, THE GATHERING OF THE KYLE'S CONTEST. THERE'S A VIP SECTION. THERE'S CARNIVAL RIDES, BEFORE I LEFT MY FORMER CITY AND TOLD THEM WHERE I WAS GOING, THEY SAID, HEY, THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE THIS BIG EVENT. WITH THE GATHERING OF KYLE'S, EVERYBODY'S PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT. I KNOW WAS FEATURED IN THE LOCAL NEWS THERE. IT'S A BIG DEAL. THINGS WE DID WELL FREE. THIS IS A FREE EVENT TO THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS AWESOME. IT'S HIGHLY ATTENDED.
AND AS I MENTIONED, IT'S RECOGNIZED AND RENOWN. LAST YEAR, STAFF ENHANCED THE SAFETY WITH ADDITIONAL FENCING, CENTRALIZED ENTRANCE, WORKING WITH TEXAS STATE UNIVERSITY, MOUNTED PATROL ADDED SOME REVENUE SOURCES WITH FOOD AND BEVERAGE CONTESTS, VENDOR FEES, ALCOHOL SALES AND VIP SALES. THEY ADDED ADDITIONAL AIR CONDITIONED RESTROOMS AND IN LIEU OF A FIREWORKS THAT HAPPENED THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THEY HAD A DRONE SHOW, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WAS ALSO A BIG HIT AND WAS A LOT SAFER. SO THOSE THINGS AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE WE DID VERY WELL, THINGS WE FEEL WE COULD DO BETTER FROM LAST YEAR, THE OPERATIONAL HOURS FOR THE CARNIVAL ATTRACTIONS GET A CONTRACT THAT HAS BETTER TEETH IN IT. SO WE GET THE RIGHT VENDOR WHO KEEPS THE CARNIVAL RIDES OPEN THROUGHOUT THE FAIR. SO THERE'S NO DISAPPOINTED FAMILIES AND KIDS WHO COME AND EXPECT TO GET ON RIDES, AND ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE NOT IN OPERATION AT THOSE HOURS. OF COURSE, WE GOT TO COMBAT THE TEXAS HEAT BETTER, SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO IMPROVE THERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS SHORTLY, WE FEEL LIKE WE COULD PROBABLY DO SOME THINGS TO LIMIT OUTSIDE FOOD OR DRINK, BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF CANNIBALIZING LIKE VENDOR SALES AND, AND SOME STAFFING OPERATIONS. ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE SOME CHANGES WITH THE GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS PROCESS, NOT TO, NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE COW PROGRAMING, BUT JUST SOME COSTS ASSOCIATED AND DILUTION MAY BE CAUSED BY DOING THE GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS EVERY YEAR. LAST YEAR WE HAD A DIP IN ATTENDANCE AND THERE WAS A VERY HIGH COST ASSOCIATED, NOT ATTENDANCE, BUT, NUMBER OF COWS PARTICIPATING. OKAY, SO IMPROVEMENTS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE OPERATIONAL TIMES OF THE CARNIVAL RIDES AND WE WANT TO DO THIS BY CONTRACT. SO WE WANT TO WRITE THIS THE RIGHT WAY. WE WANT TO ALLOW SOME REPRIEVE FROM THE HEAT WITH TWO ADDITIONAL 20 BY 40 TENTS. WE WANT TO PROVIDE FREE WATER. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE PROVIDING SOME COMMEMORATIVE WATER BOTTLES IN CASE SOMEBODY FORGETS TO BRING THEIR OWN WATER BOTTLE. AND THEN WE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FLOATABLES FROM WATER PLASTIC BOTTLES OUT THERE. WE WANT TO ADD MORE MISTING FANS TO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SITE. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WANT TO REALLY LIMIT OUTSIDE FOOD OR DRINK TO INCREASE VENDOR SALES. WITH FREE WATER. WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HYDRATION OR SAFETY ISSUES. THERE AND WE WANT TO KEEP KYLE PROGRAMING, BUT WE WANT TO, MAYBE TAKE A SABBATICAL FOR THE GUINNESS BOOK CONTEST TO MAYBE BUILD UP THOSE NUMBERS. WE STILL WANT TO COUNT THE KYLE'S TO SEE IF WE'RE GROWING IN OUR PROGRAMING AND OUR ADVERTISEMENT. AND PROMOTIONS AND DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YEAR WE WANT TO REINTRODUCE THE GUINNESS PROCESS. SO THE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE SCHEDULE. THIS IS A LOOK AT FRIDAY. SO ON ON FRIDAY WE WANT TO DO FROM 415 TO 5:00. THE DANCE COMPANY PERFORMANCES. AND THEN FROM 5 TO 10:00 TO DO THE IT'S 5:00 IN KYLE, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE MARGARITA CONTEST PEOPLE'S CHOICE AWARD. WE WANT TO DO LOCAL BANDS LIKE THAT FROM 530 TO 8:30 P.M. AND THEN HAVE THE HEADLINER, TO CLOSE THIS OUT FROM 9 TO 10:30 P.M. SO THAT'S FRIDAY. SATURDAY IS THE JACKALOPE RUN AT 7 A.M, THEN GATES OPEN TO EVERYONE AT 9 A.M. THEN FROM 10 TO 12, WE'LL HAVE THE DANCE GROUPS PERFORM FROM 1230 TO 830. THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE CONTEST FOR THE FOOD COMPETITION FROM 1 P.M. TO 830, WE'LL HAVE BANDS ROTATING IN AND OUT AND THE KYLE PROGRAMING INTERMITTENTLY, AND THEN FROM 845 TO 9:00 IS THE BIG DRONE SHOW. FROM 9 TO 1030, THE BIG HEADLINER SATURDAY NIGHT ON SUNDAY IS THE 12 P.M. WE OPEN THE GATES, HAVE THE CONTEST
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WINNERS ANNOUNCED, AND THEN FROM 1 TO 6 WE HAVE BANDS ROTATING IN AND OUT. SO QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET. IT'S $314,000. LAST YEAR WE WERE WE EXCEEDED BUDGET BY ABOUT $100,000. SO WE WANT TO CONTAIN THOSE COSTS AGAIN, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE VALUE OR THE EXCITEMENT OF THE PROJECT. SO HOW CAN WE ACCOMPLISH THAT? WELL, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, MAYBE NOT DOING GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS THIS YEAR. THAT WAS RANGE FROM 20,000 TO 25,000 FOR THAT COST ALONE. REMOVING A SECOND STAGE. WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO USE THE SECOND STAGE. WHAT WE FOUND WAS THERE WERE BANDS THAT WERE STANDING AROUND WAITING FOR THE OTHER BANDS TO FINISH, AND IT'S JUST WE DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE ANY NOISE POLLUTION OR COMPETITION WITH WITH THE BANDS. SO DECREASING THE NUMBER OF PERFORMERS, IF WE'RE DOING AND ROTATING ROTATING THE BANDS INTERMITTENTLY, WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN TIGHTEN UP ON THE NUMBER OF PERFORMERS OUT THERE AND STILL NOT HAVE ANY DOWNTIME, EVEN IN MINOR TRANSITION TIME, WE'LL HAVE A DJ PLAYING. SO THAT WAS REAL QUICK ON THE STAGE. YEAH, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S FANS UP THERE, ESPECIALLY WE'VE GOT THE SUN COMING DOWN ON THE MUSICIANS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP BEFORE WE MOVE ON.THANK YOU. ANYTHING THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WHEN YOU DO NOT HAVE A BAND ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE THEY ARE GATHERING, BECAUSE THAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE LAST YEAR, YOU COULD NOT HERE TO REGISTER THEM.
THANK YOU. THAT FEEDBACK IS NOTED AND WILL BE REQUESTING SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK MOMENTARILY. SO FOR THE FUTURE OF KYLE FAIR, WE WANT TO MAYBE BRING BACK THE GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS POSSIBLY EVERY THREE YEARS. AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL. I'M ALSO GOING TO BE SHARING PARK BOARD'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I WILL SAY THAT ALL OF PARK BOARD'S RECOMMENDATIONS WERE A CONSENSUS, POSSIBLY USING THIRD PARTY EVENTS MANAGEMENT GROUPS. THIS IS MAYBE NOT FOR THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE IN THE GAME TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THIS YEAR, BUT MAYBE SOMEONE WHO CAN MANAGE THE ENTERTAINERS BETTER THAN WE COULD, I'M SORRY, LIVE NATION MAYBE. MAYBE SO. SO YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S AN OPTION FOR ANY COMPONENT OF THIS, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO BRING IN A THIRD PARTY OPERATOR OR, OR PLANNER, WE WANT TO EXPLORE THAT OPTION. ALSO ENHANCE THE VIP EXPERIENCE AND THE PRICES PER PASS. WE'RE NOT GETTING RICH OFF OF THE VIP SECTION. IT'S A IT'S A POSITIVE FEATURE OF THE FAIR, BUT IT'S MOSTLY A PASS THROUGH COST WITH SMALL PROFIT MARGIN. AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE POSSIBLY TO NOVEMBER AGAIN, TAKING FEEDBACK. THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT, PARKS BOARD DID GIVE SOME FEEDBACK. AND FOR THE 2025 EVENT THIS COMING YEAR, THEY WANT TO PROVIDE ONE ADDITIONAL SET OF CLIMATE CONTROL RESTROOMS, WHICH WE FEEL LIKE WE COULD GET WITHIN BUDGET. THEY WANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COOLING ACTIVITIES, POSSIBLY, THEY WANT TO SELL OR GIVE AWAY SOME COMMEMORATIVE WATER BOTTLE DURING THE EVENT. THEY WANT TO MOVE AWAY FROM A THEME MUSIC NIGHTS TO OFFER A VARIETY OF MUSIC ON EACH NIGHT. THEY WANT TO, WHAT'S THE THINKING ON THAT? THEY THEY FEEL LIKE IT MAY BE POLARIZING TO ONLY FEATURE ONE GENRE OF MUSIC, AND THEY FEEL LIKE IF THERE'S OFFERINGS AND ROTATING DIFFERENT GENRES THROUGHOUT A DAY, YOU MIGHT GET MORE PEOPLE ON ANY GIVEN DAY.
AND THEIR THOUGHTS WERE IT WAS MAYBE MORE INCLUSIVE. I LIKE THAT. WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S A VERY THERE'S A VERY DEDICATED PART OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT WILL COME, NO MATTER RAIN OR SHINE, TO HEAR THEIR MUSIC, AND THEY HAVE SAVED THE EVENT. LAST YEAR WHEN IT WAS VERY HOT, THERE WAS NUMBERS, THERE WAS POPULATION THAT SHOWED UP AND SO I THINK PART OF THAT IS THE MUSIC THAT THEY ENJOY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I THINK THE COUNTRY IS A BIG HIT, LIKE ON THOSE FRIDAYS. THE TEJANO IS REALLY A BIG HIT ON SATURDAY. AND RAIN OR SHINE, THEY SHOWED UP. SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A THEME OR MUSIC CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DAY. I DON'T I'M STILL A LITTLE IFFY ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THERE'S YOU CAN COUNT ON A CERTAIN, DEMOGRAPHIC THAT IS SHOWING UP ON THOSE FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THOSE NUMBERS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. YEAH, BUT SOME AREN'T SHOWING UP BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THAT PARTICULAR BRAND OF MUSIC FOR THAT DAY, SO THEY JUST DON'T COME. SO I THINK YOU LOSE AS MANY AS YOU GET IN. ALSO, WE LOST $100,000 ON THIS EVENT LAST YEAR, SO I THINK IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY FROM A FISCAL STANDPOINT TO LISTEN TO THE FEEDBACK THAT MIGHT HELP GENERATE MORE FOOT TRAFFIC AND MORE, DOLLARS SPENT THAT WOULD ALLOW TO, AN OFFSET OF SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS. NO I'M I'M OPEN TO ALL OF THIS. I THINK THE ONE STAGE WORKS BETTER. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, I DID SEE WHERE THERE WAS CONFLICT BETWEEN MUSIC GOING ON HERE OVER THERE LAST YEAR. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE DID TWO STAGES. SO I LIKE THAT IDEA.
OKAY. AND I DID WANT TO, COUNCIL MEMBER HEIZER, YOU MENTIONED THE OVERAGE LAST YEAR. I DID WANT TO
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SAY WITH THE VALUE ENGINEERING WE'RE DOING PROPOSING THIS YEAR, WE ARE STAYING WITHIN BUDGET. I FAILED TO MENTION THAT EARLIER, FOR, SUNDAY, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS BOARD WAS TO MAKE SUNDAY A FAMILY DAY AND POSSIBLY INCLUDE SOME DISCOUNTS FOR FOODS OR RIDES AND MAYBE SOME MORE FAMILY TYPE PROGRAMING. SO THAT WAS FOR MAY 2025. AND FOR FUTURE EVENTS, THEY THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO HOST IN MAY. THEY SAID THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN SCHOOL IS OUT.THEY FEEL THAT IN TEXAS IT'S A ROLL OF THE DICE. WHETHER NOVEMBER IS GOING TO BE ANY ANY COOLER ANYWAY. BUT SCHOOL LETS OUT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SCHOOL TEACHERS ON PARKS BOARD, AND THEY SAID THE COMMUNITY REALLY LOOKS FORWARD TO THIS THIRD WEEKEND IN MAY. SO THEIR RECOMMENDATION AS A CONSENSUS WAS TO KEEP IT IN MAY. ALSO, THEY WANTED THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF A THIRD PARTY TO MAYBE MANAGE A COMPONENT. THEY WANTED STAFF TO EXPLORE THAT AS A POSSIBILITY FOR THE FUTURE. AND THEY SAID, IF WE CAN GET A THIRD PARTY AND ALLOW STAFF SOME, SOME RELIEF AND, OPERATIONS, THAT MAYBE WE COULD FEATURE A PARKS AND RECREATION INFORMATION BOOTH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE'RE SPREAD SO THIN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE COULD OFFER IN 2025 BECAUSE IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK WORKING THIS EVENT. SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, ALL FEEDBACK LISTED THUS FAR HAS BEEN NOTED. I'VE GOT MY PARTNER IN CRIME, MISS MISS CLAUDIA BACK THERE WHO'S COPILOTING THIS FOR ME IN CASE I NEED SOME EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE. BUT WE'RE TAKING NOTES ON EVERYTHING. JUST GO DOWN THE LINE. HOLD ON. JUST GO DOWN THE LINE. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR PRO TEM. YES, I HAVE MY HAND UP FIRST. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE ON THE FRIDAY, MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY ON BANDS EARLY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL DRIVING HOME FROM WORK. THAT'S SOMETHING I SAW LAST THIS PAST YEAR, IS THAT WE HAD EARLY BANDS LET'S MAKE WE CAN DO A DJ CHEAPER MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TO GET EVERYTHING STARTED ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN GOING TO THE BANDS LATER WHEN PEOPLE ARE NOW HOME. THEY'VE ALREADY CHANGED INTO SOME COMFORTABLE CLOTHES AND NOW THEY'RE COMING TO OUR EVENT, SOMETHING I'D LOVE TO SEE. THE, I LOVE THE IDEA OF DOING DIFFERENT BANDS, MAKING SURE WE'RE BRINGING THE BANDS BACK TO THE DIOCESE AS WELL SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT BAND WISE, SOME OF THE BANDS WERE REALLY AMAZING. THERE WERE SOME OTHER ONES THAT, JUST DIDN'T REALLY HIT IT WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE AT. AND I MEAN, I HONESTLY, I, I LOOK BACK AT MY YEARS OF BEING OVER AT SAINT ANTHONY'S AND ALL THE FIESTAS, AND I KNOW WHEN WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL FIESTA, WE'RE NOT. I CAN LOOK AT THE BANDS PRIOR TO THE FIESTA AND KNOW WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS PRIDE MYSELF ON, IS MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE, WELL, THIS AIN'T GOING TO BE A GOOD YEAR, RIGHT? SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE BRINGING THE RIGHT ENTERTAINMENT THAT'S GOING TO BRING THE CROWD OUT, THE OTHER THING IS THE BRANDING. SO WHEN COUNCILMEMBER KOCH AND I WERE FIRST WORKING ON THIS WITH STAFF, WHEN WE CAME U, WE HIRED A FIRM TO COME UP WITH A BRANDING AND HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IMPLEMENTED YET. WE'VE HAD SOME OF THE BRANDING UP, BUT REALLY, WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THESE LARGE CUTOUTS ALL OVER THE, FAIRGROUNDS THAT PEOPLE COULD TAKE PICTURES, BE INTERACTIVE WITH. AND I'M REALLY JUST SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. RIGHT NOW. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE BRANDING AND EVERYTHING THAT THE EARLY VISION WE HAD WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THIS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS PRIOR, COVID KEPT US FROM IMPLEMENTING THIS SO WE HAD MORE TIME TO WORK ON IT, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT FULL SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT WE WANTED. THE BRANDING WAS GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, AND IT'S LIKE LOLLAPALOOZA. WHEN YOU GO OUT AND DO THAT AND YOU SEE THE BRANDING, THE BRANDING HERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EVERYWHERE, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN YET, NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE, I'D LOVE TO SEE YOU. FINISH THIS OFF THE WAY THE ORIGINAL VISION WAS. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY. WHAT QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME AND WE'LL START TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT STAFF HAS BEEN HERE AS WELL, BUT THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THIS, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED BRINGING THIS FORWARD, WAS TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE BRANDING. WE SPENT, WE HIRED A FIRM TO DO THAT, AND WE'LL HAVE A LOT OF NOTES OUT THERE AS WELL. SO IF WE COULD FINISH AND COMPLIMENT, THE BRANDING WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
COUNCILMAN TOBIAS. THANK YOU. OKAY, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. CLAUDIA. AMY MARIANA, BENITO, ALL OF YOU GUY. YOU ROCKED IT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'RE RIGHT.
THEY'RE STRETCHED THIN. THEY'RE THERE FROM SEVEN AT NIGHT TILL 1:00 IN THE MORNING, AND THEY'RE BACK IN THERE AGAIN. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE THROUGH THE YEARS. IT'S BEEN VERY APPRECIATIVE, SO I'LL JUST, BRING UP THESE POINTS, HOW DO WE DO ON THE BUSSES? DID WE DO OKAY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION, IS THAT STILL RUNNING SMOOTH? I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE PARKING LOT OR ON THAT END, BUT WANTED TO SEE HOW WELL WE DID WITH THE BUSSES, THE BUS SYSTEM,
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IF WE HAD ANY, YOU KNOW, UPS AND DOWNS ON IT. ANY CHANGES? IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN REALLY WELL FOR BOTH, BOTH YEARS AND FOR PIE IN THE SKY. WE'VE GOTTEN A GOOD SYSTEM. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HAYS. WE'VE HAD ABOUT 4 TO 5 BUSSES FROM EACH SIDE, AND WE HAVE HADN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS ON ANY OF THE TRANSPORTATION IN THE SHUTTLES. OKAY, GREAT. THAT'S GOOD. AND THEN, AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TENTS, POSSIBLY ADDING MORE TENTS. WE CAN ALSO GET WITH, ANY MEDICAL TENTS THAT WE NEED, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS TWO HEAT RELATED INCIDENTS THERE. WE HAD TO HAVE EMS SHOW UP ON THAT END, AND ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT I ORIGINALLY BROUGHT BACK MANY, MANY MOONS AGO, AND WE HAD IT HERE, WITH THE FAIR ON THE SQUARE. AND I MAY IT MAY BE I MAY BE OUTDATED, BUT WE USED TO HAVE A MR. AND MISS KYLE PAGEANT, AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD COMPETE, OR THEY'D JUST GET, LIKE, A LITTLE, LIKE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM. THEY WOULD COME IN AND THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, JUST TELL THEM IT WAS USUALLY A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR SOMEBODY THAT'S GOING ON TO COLLEGE, AND THEY WOULD JUST GET LIKE A $200 SCHOLARSHIP IF THEY WON. BUT THEY WERE AMBASSADORS TO THE CITY. WHENEVER WE HAD EVENTS, THEY WERE THERE REPRESENTING THAT. SO THAT WAS AN IDEA THAT I BROUGHT UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO ABOUT BRINGING IN MAYBE SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE BACK. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK EVERYTHING WORKED OUT REALLY WELL, THE LINES WERE LONG WITH THE AMUSEMENT. I THINK WE'LL WORK ON THAT. BUT LIKE MAYOR MITCHELL SAYS, IF WE DO LOOK AT GETTING MAYBE A COMPANY THAT CAN RUN THE MUSIC PART OF IT ITSELF TO KEEP THE BANDS ON TRACK, MAYBE TO HELP PROMOTE THE BANDS, THAT WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD FACTOR ON THAT END. AND ONE LAST COMMENT WHEN WE SPOKE TO THE PROMOTER THAT WAS SPONSORING THESE THINGS, HE ALWAYS KEPT HE ALWAYS TOLD US NEVER COMPETE AGAINST LIKE CINCO DE MAYO, DC SAYS, UT FOOTBALL ANYTHING. MAKE YOUR OWN WEEKEND. MAKE YOUR OWN WEEKEND, HE SAYS. BECAUSE THAT WAY PEOPLE WILL. YOU CAN GET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO. I'M SURE YOU KNOW. AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THE THIRD WEEKEND OF IN KYLE IS THE PLACE TO BE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER BRANDING THAT YOU CAN USE ON THAT IS MAKE IT OUR OWN WEEKEND. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA, THANK YOU. YEAH. I MEAN, A GOOD POINT. I MEAN, WHAT EVERYONE HAS ALREADY SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, LIKE, SAFETY SAFETY AROUND THE CROWDS. I NOTICED, LIKE, WHEN SMALL KIDS ARE THERE OR YOU CAN TELL, LIKE, IF IT GETS, IF THE CROWD GETS A LITTLE OUT OF CONTROL, YOU WANT TO HAVE LINES THAT, LIKE, YOU CAN'T SIT HERE AND THEN MAYBE LIKE THE TENTS SHOULD BE BROUGHT DOWN AT A CERTAIN PERIOD BECAUSE THE TENTS WERE BLOCKING PEOPLE IN THE BACK, AND I COULD SEE PEOPLE WERE GETTING UPSET ABOUT THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING IT UPON THEMSELVES TO TELL PEOPLE TO TAKE THE TENTS DOWN, AND COUNCILMEMBER, THANK YOU. THAT'S ONE THING I ALSO FAILED TO MENTION. WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING BETTER WITH STANCHIONS AND CORDONING CERTAIN AREAS OFF FOR THAT VERY REASON. AND THEN EVEN LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE MESSAGING BY COUNCIL UP ON THE STAGE, I, I KNOW WE ONLY GOT UP THERE A FEW TIMES, BUT MAYBE THAT'S ALL WE NEED, BUT WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED THAT TO SAY AND INTRODUCE THE PUBLIC, THE AFFAIR. AND YOU KNOW, WELCOME THEM. SO SOME OF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN COORDINATION WITH THE ARTIST, AND THEN I DO LIKE, BANDS THAT FOLKS THAT FOLKS PREFER. AND I KNOW I TRY TO BE MORE BIASED TOWARDS MUSIC THAT GROWING UP YOU HEAR AND NOW AS AN ADULT, YOU HAVE DOLLARS TO SPEND. SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND ENJOY THOSE BANDS. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE MORE DEDICATED TO THE GENRES, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD HAPPEN. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF COUPONS FOR KIDS. I THINK THAT KIDS AT SCHOOL SHOULD EARN A WRISTBAND THAT'S FREE FOR THE RIDES, OR MAKE A ONE DAY FREE RIDE EVENT, LAST YEAR, PEOPLE REACHED OUT TO ME TO HELP THEM GET SOME SOME KID COUPONS. IT IT IS A COST.IT'S LIKE $20 A WRISTBAND FOR RIDES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. RESTROOMS GOT TO BE GOT TO BE CLEAN OUT THERE. COOLING AREAS. LIGHTING AT THE LAKE. AND I DO LIKE KEEPING IT IN MAY AS THE THIRD WEEKEND AND NOT COMPETING WITH OTHER OTHER BIG EVENTS. DURING THE MONTH OF MAY. SO THOSE WOULD JUST BE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU TO YOU BACK, COUNSELOR HARRIS ON THE KYLE'S. IF WE'RE GOING TO GO TO NOT DOING THE GUINNESS EVERY, EVERY YEAR, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE TO KEEP GROWING THAT GROUP OR THEY JUST DROP OFF. SO, I'D LIKE FOR US TO THINK ABOUT THAT. NOT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD BE, BUT WE HAD KYLE'S COME FROM ALL OVER THE NATION AND A COUPLE FROM OUTSIDE LIKE AUSTRALIA, AND SOME OF THEM CAME SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS A GUINNESS THING.
BUT IF WE COULD GIVE SOME RECOGNITION FOR COME ANYWAY, WE NEED TO BUILD OUR NUMBERS UP
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UNTIL WE CAN GET TO BRING GUINNESS BACK. THAT WOULD HELP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, ANY FURTHER FEEDBACK? ONE ONE THING CAN AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THIS THE LAST TWO YEARS, BUT CAN WE GET, LIKE A MUSIC FOR KIDS? LIKE A KIDS PERFORMER? IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO.CERTAINLY. YEAH. IS THAT MAYBE EVEN FOR THE FAMILY DAY BY ALL MEANS. AND I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THE MARGARITA JUDGE SELECTION PROCESS, BUT WE CAN TAKE THAT OFFLINE. I HEARD STORIES ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. DO YOU NEED ANYTHING MORE BACK FROM US? THAT'S A GREAT FEEDBACK I APPRECIATE IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO FACTOR THIS ALL INTO BOTH 2025 AND 2026. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ADJOURNED. APPRECIATE Y'ALL.
THANK YOU
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.