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GOOD EVENING.TODAY IS TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE 12TH AND THE TIME IS 6:30 PM AND I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? DELORE HERE.
[II) Approval of Minutes]
ITEM TWO.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER SERRATO AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HAUCK.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
[III) Citizen Comment Period with Planning & Zoning Commission ]
ITEM THREE, CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF REGULAR MEETINGS.
SPEAKERS ARE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS AND THEY MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMITS.
SO AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN CITIZEN COMMENTS.
SEEING NONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THOSE.
[2) Consider approval of a Conditional Use Permit for a gas station and convenience store located at 23150 IH-35. (POCO LOCO Supermercado - CUP-24-0113)]
MOVING AHEAD.UH, ITEM 4.2, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE LOCATED AT 2 3 1 5 0 IH 35 POCO LOCO.
SUPER MECADO, CUP DASH 24 DASH 0 1 1 3.
ALRIGHT, KAYLA SHARP, SENIOR PLANNER.
UM, SO TONIGHT WE HAVE, UM, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OF TWO CS WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.
THIS ONE IS A POCO LOCO, UM, LOCATED ON I 35, UM, JUST NORTH OF OPAL LANE NEXT TO WHAT WILL BE BUILDER'S FIRST SOURCE THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE MATERIALS CONSIST PRIMARILY OF BRICK, STONE AND STUCCO WITH APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO ACCENT THE BUILDING.
UM, HERE ARE THOSE ELEVATIONS.
UM, AND THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE I THREE FIVE OVERLAY.
SO AS PART OF THE I 35 OVERLAY, UM, ANY SORT OF LIKE THE COLUMN ON CANOPIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF THEY FACE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THEY UM, ALSO HAVE TO MEET THE MASONRY REQUIREMENTS.
SO, UM, THE COLUMNS ON THIS WILL BE WRAPPED IN MASONRY.
THEN THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S KIND OF AN ODD SHAPED SITE, UM, BUT IT IS COMPLIANT WITH CITY CODES.
AND THEN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS KIND OF SPLIT INTO TWO SHEETS.
SO HERE IS THAT TOP HALF AND THE BOTTOM HALF.
AND THEN PHOTOMETRIC SHEET IS A LITTLE HARD TO READ BUT IT IS COMPLIANT AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, WE HAVE FOUND THAT THIS REQUEST IS COMPLIANT WITH THE I 35 RELAY AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY? AND IT DOES, UH, COMPLY WITH THE ONE MILE RULE.
SO THIS ONE WAS VESTED BEFORE THAT.
SO THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A COUPLE YEARS, UM, AND THEY'RE FINALLY GETTING TO THE POINT OF CONSTRUCTION.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.
I HAVE A QUESTION, UM, ABOUT THE, I GUESS IT'S THE NORTH ELEVATION.
JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE COLORING ON SOME OF THESE SLIDES.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT COLORS OF BRICK AND TWO DIFFERENT COLORS OF STONE.
WHAT, WHAT'S UP WITH THAT? SO I THINK IT'S A LOT OF, UM, IT IS JUST KIND OF THE SHADING.
UM, BUT IT WILL ALL BE THE SAME MATERIAL ON COLORS.
AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT THE LIGHTING.
UNFORTUNATELY THE, THE BACKUP SLIDES THAT WE WERE GIVEN, UM, IT WAS HARD TO SEE AND STAFF PROVIDED US WITH CLEAR UH, IMAGES, BUT THE, THE LIGHTING SIDE IS STILL NOT READABLE.
UM, COULD YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LIGHTING THERE? 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS NOT BEING COMPLIANT WITH THE DARK SKY ANGLES AND STUFF.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
SO MOST OF THE TIME, UM, WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS WITH A COUP COUPLE OF OTHER POCO LOCOS AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THE, UM, OWNERS TO CORRECT SOME OF IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
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MAIN ISSUE SO FAR HAS BEEN THAT THESE LIGHTS ARE KIND OF MADE TO BE, THEY CAN EITHER BE AT 90 DEGREE ANGLE OR LIKE A 45 DEGREE ANGLE.UM, SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL INSTALL THEM AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE, UM, WHEN OUR CODE REQUIRES THEM TO BE 90.
UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IF THEY GET TO FINAL SITE INSPECTION AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, TILTED UPWARDS WHEN THEY SHOULD BE 90 DEGREES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PRETTY EASY TO CORRECT AND THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THAT BEFORE THEY GET A CO.
UH, YOU DID MENTION THAT THE OTHER ONES ARE MOSTLY COMPLIANT, LIKE YOU HAVE TO WORK BACKWARDS TO GET THEM AS COMPLIANT AS POSSIBLE.
UH, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS ONE FOR SURE HAS UPFRONT SO THAT IT WILL BE FULLY COMPLIANT? 'CAUSE WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE, THE PREVIOUS ONES.
UM, SO THIS ONE, THE, THE LIGHTING TYPES THAT THEY HAVE ON THERE ARE COMPLIANT.
UM, AND THEY GENERALLY SHOULD BE ALREADY POINTING AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE.
UM, ULTIMATELY IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF ONCE YOU'RE OUT IN THE FIELD DOING THOSE INSPECTIONS, IF YOU UM, NOTICE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT'S A EASY ADJUSTMENT.
SO EVERYTHING HERE WE HAVE POTENTIAL TO BE FULLY COMPLIANT? YES.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SIR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, COMMISSIONER DELORE, I HAD A QUESTION AND IT'S ABOUT, UH, DECELERATION LANES.
I DON'T SEE ANY DECELERATION LANES ON THIS.
UH, ON THIS PLAT IS THERE DECELERATION LANES? I'M ASSUMING THIS IS THE, IT IT SAYS I 35 BUT IT'S I 35 FRONTAGE SOUTHBOUND.
IS THAT CORRECT? UM, SO THEY WOULD BE WORKING WITH TXDOT TO GET ANY DRIVEWAY PERMITS.
UM, SO IF THEY NEED A DECELERATION LIE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TDOT, UM, SHOULD HAVE ADDRESSED AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOWN ON THE PLANS.
WE CAN DEFINITELY GO BACK AND CONFIRM IF THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT, UM, FROM TXDOT OR NOT.
UM, BUT IT IS TDOT RIGHT OF WAY.
OKAY, THEN I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER SHIELD AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SERATO.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CUP.
UH, FOR POCO LOKO PLEASE SAY AYE.
[3) Consider approval of a Conditional Use Permit for an auto mechanic located at 19121 IH-35. (Brake Check - CUP-24-0107)]
OKAY, MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM.UH, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN AUTO MECHANIC LOCATED AT 1 9 1 2 1 IH 35 BRAKE CHECK CUP DASH 24 DASH 0 1 0 7 MS. SHARP.
ALL RIGHT, KAYLA SHARP, SENIOR PLANNER.
UM, LAST CUP FOR THE EVENING, THIS ONE IS FOR A BRAKE CHECK LOCATED ON I 35 OFF OF THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD, UM, IN THE AMBER ROAD RANCH DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT WILL BE BETWEEN UM, TEXAS ROADHOUSE AND LUPE TORTILLA.
UM, SO THE MATERIALS ON THIS ONE, WHAT THAT THIS GONNA BE PRIMARILY OF BRICK AND STONE VENEER, UM, WITH APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO ACCENT THE BUILDING HERE ARE THE KIND OF BLACK AND WHITE RENDERINGS.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE, UM, BUT THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE I 35 OVERLAY.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME COLORED RENDERINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE.
SO, UM, THIS KIND OF RIGHT SIDE IS UM, OR LEFT SIDE, SORRY, IS WHAT IS FACING I 35.
UM, SO IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE I 35 OVERLAY.
IN TERMS OF MATERIALS YOU HAVE, UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE RECESSED AND SEGMENTED BAY DOORS, WHICH THEY HAVE THEIR ANGLE AND THEN THIS IS THE ANGLE FROM UM, IF YOU WERE GOING LIKE SOUTHBOUND AND THEN THE REAR, THEIR DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE IS ALSO COMPLIANT WITH I 35 OVERLAY.
THERE IS THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN SLASH SITE PLAN AND THEN PHOTOMETRIC SHEET.
UM, ALL OF THIS IS COMPLIANT WITH THE I 35 OVERLAY AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THIS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TEXAS ROADHOUSE OR THE SOUTH SIDE? THIS WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH OF TEXAS ROADHOUSE.
WHAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED NORTH OF TEXAS? ROADHOUSE IS THE TEXAS MED CLINIC.
UM, SO I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE OVERLAY, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE THE SIDE OF THE
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BUILDING THAT'S FACING THE, UH, FEEDER ROAD AND THE HIGHWAY IS A LITTLE BIT SPARSE.UM, DO YOU THINK THE APPLICANT WOULD BE OPEN-MINDED TO DOING SOMETHING LIKE MAYBE PUTTING SOME MORE WINDOWS ON THAT WALL OR JUST SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE, I DON'T KNOW, ADD THE AESTHETIC? THE FACADE ON THAT SIDE? YEAH, THE AESTHETIC COULD WORK.
IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD ASK.
OH, ARE YOU HERE? HELLO? SO WILL YOU COME? SO THE, UM, SO THAT SIDE UNDER THE SIGNAGE IS ACTUALLY, UM, ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT WALL IS THE RESTROOMS AND THE, UM, PARTS STORAGE AREA.
SO IF WE WERE TO PUT ANY SORT OF GLAZING IN THAT PART STORAGE AREA, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE THE BACK HALF OF THAT WALL.
UM, IT BECOMES A SECURITY ISSUE PRETTY QUICKLY.
UM, SO ALL THEIR PARTS ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT WALL ON SHELVING SYSTEM.
UM, SINCE IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S JUST A BIG WHITE WALL, YOU KNOW, I I WILL SAY THE OWNER WOULD PROBABLY BE OPEN TO IT.
UM, HE'S NOT IN LOVE WITH THE FACT THAT HIS SIGNAGE HAS TO ONLY BE ON THE SIDE OF THAT BILL.
SO NORMALLY THE TWO SIGNS THAT YOU SEE THERE ARE ACTUALLY OVER THE BAY DOORS, UH, AND THEY CORRESPOND TO WHICH BAYS ARE, ARE PERFORMING THE, THOSE SERVICES.
SO THE, UM, THE OIL CHANGE IS DOWN OVER ON THE END WHERE THE, THE OIL CHANGE BAY IS, UH, THE TIRE'S IN THE MIDDLE.
UM, SO HAVING A MURAL THERE AND POTENTIALLY DOING SOME ADVERTISING WITH IT, IT, I THINK HE WOULD PROBABLY LOVE IT, BUT I WOULD OF COURSE HAVE TO RUN IT BY HIM.
AND, UH, AND OF COURSE YOU GUYS HAVE TO APPROVE IT TOO, SO, UM, OPEN TO IT FOR SURE.
I WILL SAY IF THERE IS ANY COMMERCIAL MESSAGING IN A MURAL, IT IS COUNTED AS A SIGN AND THEN THEY WOULD RUN INTO ISSUES WITH THAT.
UM, SO THERE'S THAT TO CONSIDER WHEN IT COMES TO MURALS.
IT WOULD ALSO, UM, LIKELY REQUIRE GETTING THE ARTS AND CULTURAL BOARD INVOLVED AS WELL TO APPROVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT? JUST AN IDEA.
JUST, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY FO FAUX WINDOWS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOME SHUTTERS OR SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THERE'S A WINDOW THERE.
I DON'T KNOW, JUST SOMETHING TO KIND OF DRESS UP THAT BLANK WALL.
UM, GOING BACK TO A POSSIBLE MURAL, WHAT A, UM, LIKE AN OLD FORD PICKUP TRUCK BE A, IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED IF THERE WAS ANY INTEREST IN A MURAL, UM, THAT WE COULD, UM, DISCUSS, UM, LATER WITH STAFF IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING THEM PURSUE.
UM, UM, IF, UH, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION ON THE, UM, BRICK REASON, THE ANTIQUE WHITE BRICK.
UM, IF WE WERE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE BRICK PATTERN TO AGAIN CREATE SOMETHING UNNECESSARY SHUTTERS BUT TO CREATE SORT OF THE BLOCKOUT EFFECT AS IF IT WAS, MAYBE CHANGE IT TO A HERRING BONE PATTERN, YOU KNOW, WHERE GLASS THEORETICALLY WOULD BE INSTEAD OF SHUTTERS, MAYBE JUST DOING A, UH, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE POSING STACKING.
I PERSONALLY LOVE THAT IDEA 'CAUSE IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE A WINDOW THAT'S BEEN BRICKED IN BRICK OVER THAT SEEMS MORE ORGANIC TO ME.
UM, TWO, PROBABLY ONE UNDER EACH SIGN KIND OF MM-HMM.
I THINK MR. ATKINSON MIGHT HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU? THERE WE GO.
UH, WILL ATKINSON PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, UM, IF THAT IS THE ROUTE THAT Y'ALL WISH TO DIRECT THE APPLICANT, UM, THEN Y'ALL NEED TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR MOTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
WE NEED A MOTION TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ITEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, WHAT'S THE NUMBER ON IT AGAIN? CUP 24 0 1 7 24 0 1 0 7 WITH THE ADDITION OF SOME KIND OF, UM, AC RECRUITMENT TO HELP THE AESTHETIC OF THE, UM, UH,
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WALL FACING THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD.WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE CUP 2024 DASH 0 1 0 7 WITH THE ADDITION OF A ACCOUTREMENT
I COULD NOT WRITE DOWN ALL THE WORDS, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WE KNOW WHAT YOU WERE GOING FOR.
UM, I'M GOING TO, UM, ASK TO AMEND THE MOTION TO SPECIFY THAT IT WILL BE WITH, UM, DECORATIVE BRICK WORK IN THAT SPOT AS WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SURPRISES.
SO THAT'S THE ROUTE WE WANNA DO THEN.
WELL THAT'S ROUTE I WANT TO DO, BUT WE HAVE TO NOW VOTE ON WHETHER YEAH, NO, NO, NO.
I KNOW, BUT I WAS LEAVING IT OPEN STILL FOR THE, UH, MURAL JUST IN CASE.
THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T, UM, SPECIFY THE BRICK.
WELL FOR THE, SO I MEAN THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT FIELD THAT'S, THAT'S ACROSS FROM WHERE I LIVE.
AND THAT, UH, THAT USED TO JUST BE A FIELD.
I THINK IT'D BE COOL TO HAVE LIKE A MURAL OF BLUE BONNETS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY PUT THE PICKUP TRUCK IN THAT FIELD, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE COOL TO HAVE AN ART MURAL ON THAT SIDE, YOU KNOW.
THAT NEW, THAT NEW BUILDING, YOU KNOW.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION? NO, I'M GOOD.
I WAS WONDERING IF, UH, IF WE WOULD JUST BE OKAYED, UH, BETWEEN STAFF AND, UH, AND THE OWNER OR HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.
SO TYPICALLY IF YOU APPROVE IT WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES, THAT WOULD GENERALLY BE UP TO STAFF TO HANDLE WITH THE APPLICANT AND IT WOULD NOT COME BACK BEFORE YOU.
IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL ARE INTENDING? THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
KAYLA, THANK YOU FOR, UH, CLARIFYING IT.
IT'S, I THINK APPROPRIATE, UH, I'LL LEAVE IT UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
THERE, THERE ARE NO WORDS FOR THE YEAH, FOR THE RECORD.
UM, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE Y'ALL ARE ON BOARD WITH HAVING STAFF WORK OUT THE DETAILS.
UM, SO THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE TO SPECIFY THAT IT'S DECORATIVE BRICKWORK.
UM, AND I'LL SECOND THAT AMENDMENT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE.
SO WE HAVE OUR AMENDED MOTION TO APPROVE THE CUP WITH THE ADDITION AND LETTING STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AGREE ON THOSE DETAILS WITHOUT US.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THAT MOTION PASSES, WHICH BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
UH, THANK YOU MS. SHARP AND THANK YOU OUR APPLICANT FOR BEING HERE TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
UH, SO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, ADJOURNMENT, UH, WE'VE COVERED ALL THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE MEETING'S AGENDA, SO THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED TODAY.
SO WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:48 PM.