Mar 29, 2025 City Council Special Meeting

[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. THE TIME IS 9:04 A.M. SATURDAY, MARCH 29TH. I'M GOING TO CALL A SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER THE CITY SECRETARY. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

MITCHELL. HERE. HEIZER. HERE. RIZZO. ZUNIGA. PRESENT. HARRIS. HERE. MCKINNEY. HERE. TOBIAS FROZE. LOOKS LIKE THESE. BEAUTIFUL. HE'S FROZEN. ALL RIGHT. LET THE RECORD SHOW TOBIAS'S RECORDING IS HERE. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS CITIZEN COMMENTS. PERIOD. IS THERE

[1) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the draft 2025 Water Master Plan for the City of Kyle.]

NEXT UP, REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS. RECEIVE A REPORT. HOLD DISCUSSION. PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION REGARDING THE DRAFT 2025 WATER MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY OF KYLE MIKE MURPHY. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. MIKE MURPHY, DIRECTOR. SO THIS IS A REALLY BIG DAY FOR CITY OF KYLE AND THE WATER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IN PARTICULAR. WE'RE AT THE COMPLETION POINT OF OUR WATER MASTER PLAN. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS MORNING IS THE ENGINEER THAT WE SELECTED TO DO THIS, THE MASTER PLAN STUDY. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH INTRODUCTIONS OF THE ENGINEERING FIRM STEVE ENGINEERING. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RYAN OWENS WHO'S BEEN THE LEAD ON THIS PROJECT. SO RYAN. THANK YOU, MR. MURPHY. AND GOOD MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL.

APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE WATER MASTER PLAN.

MY NAME IS RYAN OWEN WITH STEVE SERVING AS THE PROJECT MANAGER. I'M ALSO JOINED THIS MORNING BY PHIL COOK WITH STEVE. WHO LED THE WATER SUPPLY PLANNING PORTION OF THIS PROJECT? ALSO, GILL BARNETT, WHO LED THE INFRASTRUCTURE EVALUATION AND HYDRAULIC MODELING. ALSO JOINED BY MARISSA VERGARA, OUR TECHNICAL ADVISOR AND PRINCIPAL ON THE PROJECT. AND JAMES BEACH, OUR HYDROGEOLOGIST AND GROUNDWATER EXPERT. THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL TO COVER THIS MORNING. WE'LL GENERALLY BREAK THIS DOWN INTO TWO MAIN PORTIONS. THE WATER SUPPLY SECTION AND AN INFRASTRUCTURE SECTION. THEN WE'LL END BY SUMMARIZING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS. SO I WANTED TO START WITH JUST THE GENERAL PURPOSE OF A WATER MASTER PLAN.

IN GENERAL, A WATER MASTER PLAN ACTS AS A ROADMAP THAT LAYS OUT A LONG TERM VISION AND ACTIONS NECESSARY TO MANAGE A COMMUNITY'S WATER RESOURCES AND WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A WHAT DO WE HAVE? WHERE ARE WE GOING AND HOW DO WE GET THERE FOR WATER PLANNING? SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, OUR TEAM EVALUATED THE CITY'S CURRENT WATER SOURCES. EVALUATED THE EXISTING WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, WHICH LED TO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO MEET FUTURE CONDITIONS. ALSO EXPLORED THE FRAMEWORK TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL WATER TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF THE CITY AT FUTURE BUILD OUT. AND THEN THE FINAL SECTION OF THE WATER MASTER PLAN IS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS. I WANTED TO QUICKLY SUMMARIZE A PROJECT TIMELINE. OUR TEAM RECEIVED A NOTICE TO PROCEED IN MARCH OF 2024. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL CONCURRENT ACTIVITIES THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE LAST YEAR. OUR TEAM DEVELOPED A CITYWIDE HYDRAULIC MODEL TO ESSENTIALLY MIMIC THE CITY'S WATER SYSTEM. THAT INCLUDED FIELD CALIBRATION AND COORDINATION WITH CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HYDRAULIC MODEL IN THE CITY SYSTEM WERE OPERATING IN ALIGNMENT SO THAT WE COULD ACCURATELY PREDICT WHAT WAS HAPPENING. WORKED WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAMS AT THE CITY FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE WATER DEMAND PROJECTIONS. WE ASSESSED CURRENT, PLANNED AND POTENTIAL FUTURE WATER SUPPLY SOURCES. AND THAT LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND A WATER MASTER PLAN. AND THAT DRAFT DOCUMENT IS WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE COUNCIL MATERIALS TODAY. SO TODAY WE'LL BE KIND OF WALKING THROUGH THE GENERAL EVALUATION AND FINDINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT DRAFT REPORT. SO TO START, THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE DAILY WATER USAGE FOR THE CITY OF KYLE FROM JANUARY 1ST, 2018 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2024. A COUPLE OF THINGS. JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE BLUE LINE IS THE WATER USAGE EACH DAY. IT FOLLOWS A

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ONE THING TO NOTE IN 2024, THE HIGHEST LINE OF THAT YEAR IS QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHEST LINE OR THE MAXIMUM DAY IN 2022 OR 2023. AND THAT IS ALSO JUST AN INDICATION THAT THE WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE ARE WORKING AS INTENDED.

SO NOW WE'LL GET INTO AN OVERVIEW OF THE WATER SUPPLY EVALUATION AND TO GET INTO THAT.

WANTED TO PROVIDE JUST AN OVERVIEW OF SOME TERMINOLOGY THAT WILL BE USED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SECTIONS. FOR THE SUPPLY COMPONENT. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE TOTAL PERMITTED SUPPLY AND THE TOTAL FIRM SUPPLY. THE TOTAL PERMITTED WATER SUPPLY IS THE AMOUNT THAT'S CONTRACTUALLY AVAILABLE TO THE CITY IN A CALENDAR YEAR. THE FIRM SUPPLY IS THE TOTAL PERMITTED WATER SUPPLY AVAILABLE TO THE CITY, WITH MAXIMUM DROUGHT REDUCTIONS IN PLACE. WANTED TO NOTE EACH OF THE CITY'S CURRENT WATER SUPPLY PERMITS HAVE VARYING LEVELS OF REDUCTION IN TIMES OF DROUGHT.

AND SO WE'LL GET INTO HOW THAT IMPACTS EACH PERMIT THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION. WHEN WE FOCUS ON THE CURRENT WATER SUPPLY THAT THE CITY HAS IN FUTURE SLIDES, AND THROUGHOUT THE REPORT, WE REALLY FOCUS ON THE FIRM SUPPLY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF WATER THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY IN THE WORST CASE, DROUGHT. MOVING ON TO THE DEMAND SECTION, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE ANNUAL DEMAND AND THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND. THE ANNUAL DEMAND IS ESSENTIALLY THE ORANGE AVERAGE LINE THAT WE SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. AND THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND IS THE HIGHEST USE DAY IN A CALENDAR YEAR. THESE TWO COMPONENTS ARE VERY CRITICAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SUPPLY IS AVAILABLE FOR BOTH DEMAND CONDITIONS. NEXT, THE UNITS WILL BE MOSTLY FOCUSING IN THIS PRESENTATION ON MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. THERE'S ALSO A UNIT OF ACRE FEET PER YEAR. THIS IS A COMMON UNIT THAT'S USED IN WATER SUPPLY PLANNING AND WATER PERMITS. BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSISTENCY, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ANNUAL AND MAX DAY THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION IN TERMS OF MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OR MGD. NEXT, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE CITY'S CURRENT WATER SUPPLY PORTFOLIO AS OF TODAY. THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES PERMITTED THROUGH THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY AND BARTON SPRINGS EDWARDS AQUIFER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. AS WELL AS SURFACE WATER THROUGH THE GBRA. THE PIE CHART ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE PERCENTAGE OF EACH SUPPLY TOTALING 6.65 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, OR 7450 ACRE FEET PER YEAR. THE TABLE SHOWS THE MAXIMUM MANDATORY REDUCTIONS THAT EACH PERMIT COULD. COULD APPLY TO THE CITY, DEPENDING ON EITHER THE AQUIFER LEVEL OR THE SURFACE WATER LEVEL. FOR GBRA, WHICH RESULTS IN THE PIE CHART ON THE RIGHT, THE TOTAL FIRM SUPPLY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A REDUCTION UP TO 39% OF THE SUPPLY. RESULTING IN 4.09 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. AND IN JUST OVER A MONTH. I BELIEVE EARLY MAY THE ARWA ALLIANCE PHASE ONE B PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO BE ONLINE. THAT PROJECT WILL DELIVER AN ADDITIONAL 1.73 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF FIRM SUPPLY. THEN, AS ADDITIONAL PHASES OF THE ALLIANCE PROJECT COME ONLINE ANTICIPATED, THE PHASE 1C1D PROJECT IN 2027. AS WELL AS THE PHASE TWO PROJECT IN 2032. OVER TIME IN 2027, THE FIRM'S SUPPLY INCREASES TO 9.62

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THIS IS THE SOURCE OF THE WATER FOR THE CITY'S WELL. NUMBER FOUR. THIS SOURCE PROVIDES UP TO 0.96 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OF PERMITTED SUPPLY. THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR UP TO 76.4% TOTAL REDUCTION. THIS PERMIT IS BASED ON MONTHLY ALLOCATIONS, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR MORE WATER TO BE TAKEN IN JULY AND AUGUST AS COMPARED TO JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AS AN EXAMPLE. AND THEN AGAIN, AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, THIS SUPPLY IS CURRENTLY IN STAGE 3 OR 53.8% TOTAL REDUCTION. NEXT, AND THE CITY'S CURRENTLY THE CITY'S LARGEST WATER SUPPLY IS FROM CANYON LAKE THROUGH GBRA.

THIS SOURCE PROVIDES UP TO 4.86 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. THIS SUPPLY IS BASED ON DAILY LIMITS.

AND SO THAT 4.86 IS WHAT'S ALLOWED EVERY DAY, WHETHER IT'S JANUARY OR AUGUST. THIS PERMIT CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR A REDUCTION OF UP TO 30%. AND THAT'S DIRECTLY BASED ON THE WATER ELEVATION IN THE CANYON RESERVOIR. AND AGAIN, AS A REFERENCE, THIS WATER SUPPLY IS CURRENTLY AT 15% TOTAL REDUCTION. AND JUST TO MENTION THE COMBINED TOTAL OF ALL OF THESE CURRENT REDUCTIONS. THE CITY'S CURRENT SUPPLY AS OF TODAY, WITH THE REDUCTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE, IS 5.07 MGD. NEXT, THE CITY CURRENTLY HAS TWO AGREEMENTS IN PLACE WITH THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS. ONE IS THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR UP TO 500 ACRE FEET PER YEAR. THIS AGREEMENT IS IN PLACE THROUGH 2026. THERE'S ALSO CURRENTLY AN INTERCONNECT AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS UP TO A HALF A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, IF NEEDED FOR PEAK FLOWS. THIS ALSO REQUIRES SPECIFIC COORDINATION BETWEEN THE CITIES. AND THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS WOULD NEED TO AGREE IN ADVANCE. AND SO. SO FOR THAT REASON, WE DON'T INCLUDE THIS

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THE CITY IS CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ALLIANCE PARTNERS FOR NEAR TERM WATER AGREEMENTS FOR ADDITIONAL SUPPLY. ONE OF THE GREAT BENEFITS OF THE ALLIANCE PROGRAM IS THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, AND SO AGREEMENTS LIKE THIS THAT CAN OCCUR TO KIND OF SHARE WATER, TRANSFER WATER AS NEEDED THROUGH THESE AGREEMENTS. THERE IS ONE OF THESE AGREEMENTS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING AS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. FOR SOME SHORT TERM WATER THROUGH GREEN VALLEY FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS STUDY. WE ASSUMED THAT THROUGH THIS PARTNERING, THE CITY OF KYLE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY ADDING 1 MILLION GALLON PER DAY IN 2026 AND TWO MGD FROM 2027 TO 2031. AND SO THE NEXT SLIDE ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZES ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SUPPLIES, THE EXISTING SUPPLIES, THE PLANNED SUPPLIES, THE PLANNED PARTNERING AGREEMENTS, AND PUTS IT KIND OF STACKED UP WITH EACH SUPPLY PER YEAR. AND SO 2024 ESSENTIALLY REPRESENTS THE CURRENT SUPPLY TODAY. THE LIGHT BLUE TO WHITE GRADIENT LINE ON TOP IS THE TOTAL PERMITTED SUPPLY. AND SO THE AMOUNT OF WATER AVAILABLE TO THE CITY COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM THE SOLID LINE UP TO THE TOP OF THE WHITE. BUT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES WE'RE USING THE SOLID LINE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE ALLIANCE WATER IS A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF THE CITY'S PLAN OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. SO THAT WAS A LOOK AT THE ANNUAL PERMITTED SUPPLY. AS MENTIONED, ALSO LOOKED AT THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND. AS AS MENTIONED, SOME OF THE PERMITS ONLY ALLOW A DAILY AMOUNT TO BE DRAWN, WHETHER IT'S THE LOW DEMAND PERIOD OR THE HIGH DEMAND PERIOD. OTHER PERMITS, LIKE THE GROUNDWATER PERMITS, ALLOW MORE WATER TO BE USED IN THE SUMMERTIME VERSUS THE WINTER TIME, WHICH THIS IS TO BE OPTIMIZED BY THE CITY TO MEET THE MAX DAY DEMANDS. THIS TABLE IS INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. IT INCLUDES EACH SUPPLY'S ANNUAL FIRM SUPPLY, AS WELL AS THE MAX DAY FIRM SUPPLY. AND REALLY THE TOP THREE THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY, THE BARTON SPRINGS AND THE GBRA ALLOW A LITTLE BIT MORE TO BE TAKEN DURING PEAK TIMES. AND SO THE END RESULT FOR THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND IS REPRESENTED HERE. ON THE ON THE CHART IT'S THE SAME SOURCES. ONE THING TO POINT OUT IS HOW MUCH MORE EDWARDS AND BARTON SPRINGS WATER SHOWS UP AT THE BOTTOM.

I'LL PAUSE HERE FOR A SECOND AND THEN GO BACK TO THE AVERAGE DAY, WHERE IT'S A SLIVER OF THE ANNUAL USAGE. BUT SUCH A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE DURING THE HIGHER DEMAND SUMMER MONTHS. AND SO ONCE OUR TEAM ESTABLISHED THE CURRENT AND PLANNED WATER SUPPLY. WE LOOKED TO THE WATER DEMAND PROJECTIONS TO SEE HOW THAT COMPARED. A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE. THE CITY OF KYLE'S WATER SERVICE AREA, OR CCN, WHICH IS THE CERTIFICATE OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY. THIS IS A PERMIT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS PUC THAT GIVES THE CITY OF KYLE THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO PROVIDE WATER WITHIN THAT GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARY. THERE ARE PORTIONS OF THE CITY WHICH ARE SERVED BY OTHER WATER PROVIDERS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITHIN OTHER WATER PROVIDER, CCN. AND SO JUST

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SO THE DIFFERENT COLORS. THE MEANING IS THE LIGHT GREEN IS INTENDED TO REPRESENT THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH WAS REMOVED FROM THE DEMAND PROJECTIONS BASED ON THE DEVELOPED, THE FLOODPLAIN BEING UNDEVELOPABLE. THE DARK GREEN AND THE ORANGE ARE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT CASES THAT WAS COORDINATED IN DETAIL WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT GROUPS. THE. THE TAN COLOR IS THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY. AND THEN THE COLOR SCHEME UNDER THE LAND USE 2030 TITLE IN THE LEGEND REPRESENTS THE KIND OF REMAINING INFILL DEVELOPMENT. UTILIZING ESTIMATED LOSE PER ACRE BASED ON LAND USE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND A SUMMARY OF THE RESULTING GROWTH RATES FROM 2024 TO 2028. THE GROWTH RATE OF 9% WAS ESTABLISHED. THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 8.25% AND THE FOLLOWING FIVE YEARS 8%. BASED ON THOSE KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS, THAT GETS THE BUILD OUT OR THE CITY OF KYLE'S WATER, CCN TO ABOUT 80% BUILD OUT. AT THAT TIME, THE GROWTH RATE TAPERED DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WHICH IS TYPICAL AT THAT TIME. AND AS THE CITY GROWS TO 3% GROWTH RATE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 2% GROWTH RATE THROUGH 2048. AND THEN AT THAT TIME, THE CITY, BASED ON THESE WATER DEMAND PROJECTIONS WOULD

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THAT GENERALLY MATCHES WHAT WAS REVIEWED IN 2024. THE INTENT OF THIS IS REALLY TO SHOW DEMAND SPECTRUM. VARIOUS CONSERVATION MEASURES CAN BE PUT INTO PLACE. A VARIETY OF CONSERVATION MEASURES WITH A SPECTRUM OF GOALS. AND SO THE PURPOSE OF SHOWING THE TWO LINES IS TO SHOW THE FIRM SUPPLY, AS WELL AS A SPECTRUM OF DEMANDS BASED ON A FUTURE CONSERVATION GOALS THAT CAN BE SET. AND BEFORE GOING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE OBSERVATION HERE IS THAT BASED ON THESE PROJECTIONS, THE ANNUAL PROJECTED DEMANDS AND ANNUAL SUPPLIES ARE APPEAR ADEQUATE TO 2035. NEXT, LOOKING AT THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND PROJECTIONS OVER THE SAME PERIOD AGAIN THROUGH 2038. THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND PROJECTIONS COMPARED TO THE AVAILABLE MAXIMUM DAY SUPPLY. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DISCREPANCY, BUT BECAUSE THE ANNUAL SUPPLY IS AVAILABLE, THE GAP CAN BE BRIDGED THROUGH OPERATIONAL AND WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, WHICH WE'LL GET INTO LATER IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS. AGAIN, THE DARKER LINE IS THE PROJECTED MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND. THE LIGHTER LINE IS THE PROJECTED DEMAND WITH UP TO 30% CONSERVATION AND SHOWING THE SPECTRUM OF WHAT THAT DEMAND COULD LOOK LIKE BETWEEN THOSE GUARDRAILS. SO. THE KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT SECTION, BASED ON THE CURRENT AND PLANNED WATER SUPPLY STRATEGIES AND DEMAND PROJECTIONS, THE CITY OF KYLE HAS ADEQUATE ANNUAL WATER SUPPLY FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS. WE RECOMMEND A PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL OPERATIONAL STRATEGIES TO BE IN PLACE BY 2030, TO MANAGE PROJECTED MAXIMUM DAY DEMANDS TO MEET SOME OF THOSE GAPS FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WHICH CAN BE DONE WITHOUT NEW WATER SUPPLY PERMITS. AND THEN PLAN FOR AN ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY TO BE ONLINE BY 2034. AND NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE FUTURE WATER SUPPLY PLANNING STRATEGIES. BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANTED TO SEE IF THIS WAS A TIME TO PAUSE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE WATER SUPPLY AND DEMANDS. YES. THE ESTIMATES ON ARWA, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE. PARDON ME? DO WE

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THE PHYSICAL WATER IS THERE IN THE AQUIFER, AND MOST OF THE CONVERSATION IS ABOUT HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE ARE THESE NUMBERS AND CHARTS AND GRAPHS AND EVERYTHING FACTORING IN LESS RAIN ON A YEARLY BASIS? SO THE INCREASE IN DROUGHT, RYAN, I BELIEVE Y'ALL'S ANALYSIS OCCURRED, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FOR THE EDWARDS AQUIFER, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE CUTBACKS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THE, THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS ARE BUILT IN AS MAXIMUM AVAILABILITY IN THOSE DROUGHT YEARS. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT THE SUPPLY GRAPHS IS THAT'S ACCOUNTED FOR. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE RYAN. ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? YES.

GO AHEAD. WELL, AND I THINK THAT THE NUMBERS, THE GRAPHS SHOW THAT A FIRM AND PERMITTED SUPPLY. SO A FIRM SUPPLY IS AVAILABLE DURING THE WORST OF THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS. AND THEN IT ALSO THE NUMBERS ALSO SHOW A 20% IN CONSERVATION EFFORTS. SO WE WOULD ASSUME WE WOULD BE UNDER SOME SORT OF DROUGHT MITIGATION EFFORT DURING THAT. SO IT SHOWS BOTH BOTH ON OUR WATER SUPPLY AND BOTH COMING FROM THE CUSTOMERS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NUMBER BECAUSE OUR NEED TO OUR NEEDS TO CONSERVE WOULD INCREASE UNDER IF

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THE DESIRED FUTURE CONDITIONS, WHICH IS A TERM USED IN CHAPTER 36 OF STATE WATER CODE, BASICALLY, OR THE PROJECTIONS FOR ALLOWABLE DRAWDOWN IN THE AQUIFER. AND SO HOW DO YOU DO BEST TO MAINTAIN YOUR SUPPLIES? YOU STAY ACTIVE IN THAT DISCUSSION. AND IN THAT STAKEHOLDER PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE WATER RIGHTS AND YOUR NEEDS ARE MET TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY. AND LIKE I SAY, THAT IS AN ONGOING DISCUSSION. AND IT HAPPENS JUST LIKE REGIONAL WATER PLANNING. AND GRAHAM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT THERE UNLESS THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS. AND THEN THERE'S A STATE LEVEL ABOVE THOSE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS. I'M SORRY. THERE'S A STATE LEVEL THAT OPERATES ABOVE THE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS. WELL, THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD CERTAINLY HAS SOME SAY IN THOSE THINGS. YES. I THINK JUST TO TRY TO MAYBE MAKE SURE I'M DRILLING DOWN TO THE POINTS THAT ARE BEING ASKED. I MEAN, THERE ARE LIMITED SUPPLIES IN THIS AQUIFER IS VERY VAST, BUT WE'RE LOOKING VERY LONG TERM OUT FOR THE SUPPLIES. WE BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THERE FOR THE PARTIES THAT THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. BUT LONGER TERM THAN THAT, THE STATE IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLIES. AND I THINK THAT'S THE LARGER CONVERSATIONS THAT'S BEEN HAVING AT THE STATE OF TEXAS ABOUT LOOKING AT HOW DO WE INVEST FOR THE FUTURE, FOR ALL OF THE GROWTH AND THE INDUSTRIES AND THINGS THAT ARE COMING? THIS WILL BE ONE PIECE OF A MUCH LARGER SUPPLY DISCUSSION FOR THE ENTIRE STATE. SO THERE ARE LIMITED SUPPLIES. THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S UNLIMITED. BUT WE DO BELIEVE FOR ALL THE PARTIES THAT ARE THERE LONG TERM, THAT THOSE SUPPLIES ARE THERE, BUT MORE WILL BE NEEDED IN THE DECADES TO COME TO MAKE SURE TEXAS HAS THE WATER SUPPLY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY. AND CERTAINLY ALL THE RIVER AUTHORITIES AND OTHER ENTITIES ARE LOOKING AT WAYS TO BRING WATER FROM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, LOWER IN THE BASIN, UP TO UP TO THE GROWTH CORRIDOR. AND, YOU KNOW, GBRA HAS PLANS FOR THAT AND OTHERS ALSO. SO THAT'S AN ONGOING CONVERSATION. I THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT. THANK YOU. SO BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A TEN YEAR PROJECTION RIGHT NOW OR A TEN YEAR SUPPLY THAT'S ALREADY IN THE IN THE PIPELINE SO TO SPEAK. PROJECTS ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT ARE COME ON, COME ON LINE. A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE IN THIS DISCUSSION.

ONE OF THEM IS TEN YEARS. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF TIME IN THE WORLD OF WATER RESOURCES. IT'S NOT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT FROM AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MANY OF THESE NEW WATER RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED OR CONCEPTUALIZED, IT'S EASILY TAKEN A DECADE TO GO FROM THE IDEA TO WHERE WATER IS ACTUALLY FLOWING. SO THIS GIVES YOU THAT WINDOW TO PLAN FOR THE NEXT PHASE AND TO IMPLEMENT THOSE, THOSE NEW PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD TO, TO SECURE WATER FOR, FOR THE CITY. THE OTHER THING, AND AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION. IT IS IT IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO WHICH WHICH SOUNDS BAD, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE WAY WATER RESOURCE PLANNING IS, IS DESIGNED. WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU ON HOPE THAT IT'S GOING TO RAIN OR PLANS. WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT WORST CASE SCENARIO. EVERYTHING THAT THAT RYAN SHOWED WAS THE MAXIMUM REDUCTIONS. AGAIN, THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IN WHICH YOUR SUPPLY WOULD BE. AND AGAIN, VERY CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND THE INTERFACE BETWEEN THESE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TRANSLATION BETWEEN ACRE FEET AND MGD. AND IT'S NOT JUST A CONVERSION FACTOR. IT'S SOME MANAGED ANNUALLY, BUT YOU OPERATE ON A DAILY BASIS. YOUR CUSTOMERS DON'T CARE THAT ANNUALLY THEY GOT ENOUGH WATER.

THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT TODAY THEY GO TO THE SINK AND THEY AND THEY TURN THE WATER ON AND THE WATER COMES DOWN AND THEY HAVE ENOUGH WATER FOR THEIR USES. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JAMES MENTIONED WAS THE MODELING THAT THAT IS OUT AT 50 AND 60 YEAR MODELING TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THAT THE AQUIFER CAN PROVIDE THAT WATER. AGAIN, ULTIMATELY, WE'D RECOMMEND THAT

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SOME YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ADDITIONAL WATER LEFT OVER BECAUSE YOU'RE AGAIN, YOU'RE PLANNING FOR WORST CASE SCENARIO, YOU TAKE THAT EXTRA WATER, STORE IT IN THE AQUIFER, AND THEN IT YOU EXTRACT IT. THE IDEA IS YOU CAN SEE THE, THE LIGHT BLUE THERE, THE STORED WATER. THE BUFFER ZONE IS THE TRANSITION AND WATER QUALITY ESSENTIALLY FROM THE WATER THAT YOU PUT IN TO THE NATIVE WATER IN THE AQUIFER. SO AGAIN, IDEALLY YOU WITHDRAW THE WATER FROM THAT STORED WATER ZONE. IT LOOKS JUST LIKE WHAT YOU PUT IN. AND YOU TAKE IT OUT AND YOU DRINK IT. YOU DON'T NEED TO PAY FOR ANY ADDITIONAL TREATMENT COSTS. OKAY. THIS DOES TAKE A WHILE TO DEVELOP THIS. IT DOES TAKE A WHILE TO GET WATER INTO THE GROUND, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE LOOKING AT THIS. NEW BRAUNFELS OBVIOUSLY MENTIONED SOARS. AUSTIN'S LOOKED AT IT AND I BELIEVE THE BARTON SPRINGS OECD IS ALSO LOOKING AT THIS. SO IT'S A IT'S A WELL ESTABLISHED CONCEPT IF YOU WILL. WE'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT TO BEGIN LOOKING AT SOME EXPLORATORY WELLS, DOING SOME MORE DETAIL INVESTIGATION TO UNDERSTAND HOW LARGE THIS COULD BE AND HOW HOW FEASIBLE THIS COULD BE MOVING FORWARD. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. YEAH, I'M NOT A TECHNICAL EXPERT ON THIS, BUT ISN'T THERE A POLICY WHERE IF YOU PUMP A GALLON OF WATER, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THAT SAME GALLON? ISN'T ISN'T THAT PART OF THE WATER REGULATION? SO YOU CAN'T JUST PUMP, RIGHT. AND THEN YOU CAN'T YOU HAVE TO EXPENSIVE COST OF PUMPING. JUST SO JUST SO THAT WE'RE AWARE. SO YOU HAVE TO OWN THE WATER TO BE ABLE TO INJECT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO THAT BECOMES YOUR WATER. YOU KNOW, THE SOURCE PERMIT, THE ONE I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH IS BASICALLY ONE FOR ONE. SO YOU PUT IN A GALLON, YOU CAN PUMP PUMP OUT A GALLON REGARDLESS OF THE WATER QUALITY, OKAY. IF YOU TAKE MORE THAN THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO EXTRACT THAT FROM FROM THE AQUIFER. SO YES, YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T PUMP WHAT YOU DON'T OWN AND WHAT YOU STORE THERE, YOU DON'T OWN. YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GRAB IT. RIGHT. OKAY.

OKAY. NOW AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THE SAME AQUIFER AND PURSUE PERMITS IN THAT CERTAINLY THAT THAT CAN BE PART OF YOUR WATER PLAN. GOTCHA. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DISCUSSING IS IF YOU LOOK ON A TOTAL ANNUAL BASIS FOR WATER, WE HAVE SUFFICIENT WATER TO MEET THE DEMAND. IT'S THE TIMING OF WHEN WE NEED THE WATER. SO THOSE SUMMER MONTHS, WE HAVE THOSE MAX DAILY DEMANDS. THOSE ARE THE MOMENTS WHERE WE NEED ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES. AND SO IT WOULD BE EXISTING WATER THAT WE HAVE TREATED, WATER THAT WOULD BE GOING INTO THE AQUIFER.

AND THEN WE'D BE PULLING IT OUT. AND I THINK TO COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA'S POINT, YOU COULDN'T TAKE OUT MORE THAN YOU PUT IN, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THAT'S IT WOULD BE WATER THAT WE ALREADY OWN, JUST TRYING TO MANAGE WHEN THE TIMING OF WHEN WE GET THAT WATER OUT BASED ON THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. SO HOPEFULLY THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A NEW CONCEPT FOR US TO BE THINKING ABOUT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. YEAH. IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN WE START, I GUESS IF WE'RE GETTING INTO THE PLANNING FOR MORE WELLS, I WOULD JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN WE HAVE TO MANAGE AFFORDABILITY AS WELL. SO WE'RE ADDING MORE AND MORE WELLS. THERE'S A LARGE COST TO, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THOSE WELLS. AND THEN THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT ABOUT, WELL, THERE'S A COST TO WHAT YOU PUMP. YOU HAVE TO RETURN. RIGHT. SO I WAS TRYING I WAS TRYING TO GET THAT CONVERSATION IN MY MIND WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WELLS. ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON IT. IT IS A WATER MANAGEMENT TOOL. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A WATER. IT'S NOT A WATER SOURCE. EXACTLY. IT ALLOWS YOU TO MANAGE IT NOT ONLY OVER A YEAR, BUT OVER, OVER POTENTIALLY DECADES. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN A, IN A, I GUESS MAYBE AN AVERAGE YEAR. ALL THESE WATER RESOURCES POTENTIALLY COULD GO UNUSED. YOU

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YOU COULD THAT THAT BIG GRAY, THAT THAT PIECE OF PIE. THE REDUCTIONS THAT RYAN WAS SHOWN IS A PRETTY BIG PIECE OF PIE. SO BASICALLY IT LETS YOU TAKE SOME OF THIS WATER YOU STORED FROM OTHER YEARS AND FILL IN THAT THE PIE, IF YOU WILL, AND TO SUPPLEMENT YOUR WATER SYSTEM. SO IT'S REALLY A GREAT STRATEGY IN TERMS OF COST. THE THING IS UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF THESE WATER RESOURCES AND YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE MAPS WHERE YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF MILES OF PIPELINE AND ALL THIS TRANSMISSION COSTS. THE WATER IS ALREADY HERE IN TOWN. OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO IMPORT THIS WATER. IT'S HERE ALREADY IN YOUR SYSTEM. YOU'RE JUST INJECTING IT INTO THE GROUND, POTENTIALLY DEPENDING ON THE AQUIFER. THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE STUDY WILL SHOW. YOU JUST USE SYSTEM PRESSURE JUST TO RUN IT INTO THE GROUND SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST. AND THEN YOU PUMP IT OUT. BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO EXTRACT IT FROM 100 MILES AWAY AND PUMP IT AND TREAT IT. YOU'RE EXTRACTING IT FROM RIGHT HERE UNDERNEATH YOUR FEET. PUMPING THAT BACK OUT AT THAT IS FAIRLY AFFORDABLE COMPARED TO A LOT OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SO YEAH, THERE ARE DEFINITELY COSTS WITH IT. BUT SINCE YOU ALREADY OWN IT AGAIN AND AGAIN, IT'S GOT GREAT POTENTIAL TO EXPAND AND GIVE YOU A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR WATER RESOURCE PORTFOLIO. OKAY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE PROJECTS AGAIN LIKE I JUST DESCRIBED, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE'S A LOT OF LOT OF PIPE, A LOT OF TRANSMISSION COSTS AND COSTS TO GET THE WATER, YOU KNOW, YOUR WATER SECURE, KNOW THAT YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING TO THEM ABOUT SECURING FUTURE WATER THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE ROAD. NOT NOT IMMEDIATELY. AGAIN, IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO DIVERSIFY YOUR WATER PORTFOLIO. AND THEN AGAIN, MAKE SURE THAT YOU MEET YOUR FUTURE WATER DEMANDS. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU'VE COMPLETED A WATER REUSE INITIAL PLAN. LOOKING AT USING YOUR TREATED WASTEWATER EFFLUENT. BUT AT LEAST AT THIS TIME, YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF USERS FOR THAT. TYPICAL USERS, YOU KNOW, IRRIGATION, GOLF COURSE, MAYBE LARGE COOLING TOWERS, POTENTIALLY DUAL DUAL PLUMBED OFFICE BUILDINGS, THAT TYPE OF THING. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH OF THAT HERE. SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DEMAND. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO BUILD A NECESSARILY A HUGE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOT USERS FOR IT. THOSE SYSTEMS REALLY REQUIRE AN ANCHOR TENANT TO USE THE WATER AT THE END AND DEVELOP THE LINE. AND THEN YOU CAN WORK TO, TO CONNECT OTHER FOLKS TO IT. THIS CONCEPT IS TAKING THAT WATER, YOUR TREATED WASTEWATER EFFLUENT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT WATER IS AGAIN HIGHLY TREATED. IT STARTS OUT AS WASTEWATER, BUT IT ENDS UP BEING A VERY HIGH QUALITY WATER PRODUCT. IT'S DISCHARGED TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND IT GOES DOWN. IT GOES DOWN THE STREAM. AND YOU YOU LOSE THE RIGHTS TO THAT AS YOU AFTER YOU DISCHARGE IT. THIS DIRECT POTABLE REUSE, INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE CONCEPT WOULD TAKE THAT WATER AGAIN, STARTING AS A VERY HIGH QUALITY WATER, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TREATMENT THROUGH THAT TYPICALLY MICRO MICROFILTRATION AND RO AND ADDITIONAL DISINFECTION AND THEN USES THAT WATER AS YOUR WATER DRINKING WATER SOURCE. OKAY.

IDEALLY THERE'S A BUFFER, THERE'S A LAKE OR SOMETHING OR A BIT LARGE RESERVOIR THAT IT'S THAT IT'S PUMPED INTO. OBVIOUSLY, THE WATER QUALITY IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE, BUT IT IS A CONCEPT THAT'S IN PLACE ALREADY IN TEXAS. IT'S A CONCEPT THAT MANY UTILITIES ARE LOOKING AT. AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF THAT WATER, THE HIGH QUALITY OF THAT WATER THAT'S DISCHARGING THE WATER THAT YOU OWN ALREADY. AGAIN, THAT WATER IS HERE IN TOWN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO 100 MILES AWAY TO GO GET THAT WATER AND BRING IT TO TOWN. SO WE'D SUGGEST A, YOU KNOW, SOME A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW LARGE IT WOULD BE, HOW IT WOULD BE PIPED AND OPERATE WITHIN YOUR EXISTING WATER SYSTEM. GOOD QUESTION. WHAT'S THE CLEANLINESS OF THE REUSED WATER VERSUS CLEAN WATER? LIKE WHAT IS THE GAP IN TERMS OF LIKE HOW CLEAN CAN WE ACTUALLY GET THAT REUSED WATER? THE YOU MEAN COMING OUT OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT? OBVIOUSLY IT'S TREATED TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD. IT'S TREATED TO, YOU KNOW, BIOLOGICAL STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, AS DO REQUIREMENT TO BE DISCHARGED. IT'S NOT TREATED TO

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THOSE ARE THE SOURCES THAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT. CORRECT. AND WE'LL SHOW YOU HOW THAT LAYERS IN WITH ALL THE OTHER SUPPLY CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO JUST A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE PROJECTS IN TERMS OF CAPACITY AND COST.

AGAIN, WE WANT TO WORK TO REFINE SOME OF THE COSTS AS YOU NEGOTIATE WITH WITH OTHERS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A CLASSIC WATER RESOURCES APPROACHES. YOU WORK FROM YOUR LEAST EXPENSIVE TO YOUR MOST EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW, TO BE GOOD STEWARDS WITH WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS FUNDS.

AVAILABILITY OF THESE ALSO COMES INTO PLAY AGAIN WITH WITH EXECUTING, PERMITTING, TIME FRAME, THAT KIND OF THING. YOU KNOW, INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE AGAIN SHOWN AT 2036. AGAIN, IT DOES TAKE A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME TO PILOT THAT. THERE'S SOME PUBLIC CONCERNS ABOUT IT, OBVIOUSLY, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. AND, YOU KNOW, VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL TREATMENT. AND THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO IMPLEMENT THAT. SO LOOKING AT ADDING IN THOSE, LAYERING IN THOSE ADDITIONAL SOURCES ON TOP OF WHAT RYAN'S ALREADY PRESENTED IS SHOWN HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AS WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT SET OF DATA FOR THE PROJECTIONS UP THROUGH ABOUT 2038. WHEN YOU GET FURTHER AND FURTHER OUT, YOU KNOW, IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT UNCERTAIN WHAT TO PLAN FOR. AGAIN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT THAT PLANNING AGAIN, WHAT THE PLANNING HORIZON IS AND WHAT THE WATER IS. WE DON'T WANT TO BE CAUGHT SHORT, SHORT HANDED WITH YOU, WITH YOUR WATER SUPPLY. SO AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THOSE RESOURCES CAN FIT INTO YOUR OVERALL PORTFOLIO AND MEET YOUR DEMANDS. THE FIRST GRAPH WAS AN ANNUAL BASIS. THIS IS AGAIN WE'VE GOT TWO CONDITIONS WE NEED TO MEET. THIS IS THE MAXIMUM DEMAND. AND ON THIS ONE WE'VE ADDED THE AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY. AGAIN THE ABILITY TO COME IN IN THE FUTURE AND USE THAT FACILITY TO MEET YOUR YOUR SHORT TERM DEMAND FROM THAT STORED WATER THAT YOU HAVE IN THE SYSTEM. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THAT POTABLE SECTION, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S A VERY LARGE COST INITIAL INVESTMENT, BUT IT DOES HAVE A VERY SUSTAINABLE RETURN IN REUSING THE WATER YOU ALREADY OWN, NOT DUMPING IT BACK. IT'S ALREADY CLOSE AND RECYCLING AND CONTINUING IT. RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VERY GOOD SUSTAINABLE REASON TO LOOK AT THAT. AND I LIKE THAT. THAT'S A VERY LARGE CHUNK THAT FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GIVE US BACK THAT DRINKING WATER. THAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT IT. AS YOUR POPULATION GROWS, THEY USE MORE WATER, BUT THEY PRODUCE MORE WASTEWATER. THE WASTEWATER INCREASES AS AS YOUR POTENTIAL FOR WATER SUPPLY. SO YES. THANK

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THE COLORS THERE JUST SHOW YOU THE PRESSURE PLANES. SO THE BLUE IS PRESSURE PLANE ONE. THAT'S YOUR LARGEST PRESSURE PLANE IN RED IS TWO AND THE PURPLE IS PRESSURE PLANE THREE, WHICH IS THE SMALLEST. SO WE DID EACH ONE OF THOSE PRESSURE PLANES INDEPENDENTLY. DID THE CALIBRATION FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE INDEPENDENTLY. AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS JUST RUN THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE MEASURED FOR A GIVEN DAY, A GIVEN TIME, AND THEN SEE IF THE MODEL AGREES WITH WHAT YOU READ IN THE FIELD AT ALL THOSE DATA POINTS, AND THEN YOU ADJUST THE MODEL ACCORDINGLY TO GET IT TO LINE UP AND MATCH. AND THE GOAL IS TO GET YOUR MODEL WITHIN 5% OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FIELD. AND WE ACHIEVED THAT OR BETTER ACROSS THE WHOLE SYSTEM. SO THE MODEL IS VERY ACCURATELY CALIBRATED. QUICK QUESTION. YOU MIGHT EXPLAIN WHAT A PRESSURE PLANE IS AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO THESE MODELS. YEAH. WELL OUT IN THE OUT IN THE SYSTEM YOU'LL SEE ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS ACROSS THE CITY. AND THOSE ARE AT A CERTAIN HEIGHT. AND THEY NEED TO BE A CERTAIN HEIGHT ABOVE THE GROUND TO GIVE YOU PRESSURE. AS THE GROUND GOES UP, THE TANKS NEED TO BE HIGHER TO GIVE YOU THAT PRESSURE. SO A PRESSURE PLANE JUST DEFINES AN AREA THAT'S KIND OF SIMILAR, SIMILAR ELEVATION AND HAS ONE SET LEVEL FOR ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS. AND IT GIVES A CERTAIN PRESSURE ACROSS THE WHOLE SYSTEM. EVEN WITHIN THAT PRESSURE PLANE, YOUR PRESSURES CAN VARY. AS YOU GO UP A HILL, YOUR PRESSURES GO DOWN. AS YOU GO DOWN THE HILL, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE YOUR PRESSURES GO UP. SO IF YOU LIVE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOWER PRESSURE THAN YOUR NEIGHBOR AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE RELATIVELY CLOSE WITHIN A GIVEN PRESSURE PLANE. SO ALL THESE PRESSURE PLANES ARE ISOLATED FROM ONE ANOTHER. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PUMPS, DIFFERENT ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS, AND THEY OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY. SO THE WAY THIS WORKS IS YOUR LOWEST ELEVATIONS ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. AND AS YOU GO TO THE WEST, YOUR ELEVATIONS GENERALLY GO UP. SO THE SECOND PRESSURE PLANE, THE RED ONE, IS HIGHER, THE ELEVATIONS ARE HIGHER. SO YOUR ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS ARE HIGHER. AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE PURPLE AGAIN IT'S ANOTHER STEP HIGHER. SO IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH.

SO THE QUESTION WAS NOT FOR ME OKAY. SO WHAT WE DO AFTER WE DEVELOP THE EXISTING MODEL TO

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THIS IS KIND OF SHOW YOU ON THE MAP WHERE THE FIRST AID ARE. THEY'RE JUST KIND OF NUMBERED.

SO YOU'VE GOT THE PUMP STATION AND ELEVATED STORAGE TANK FOR WATERSTONE DOWN IN THE SOUTH AND THEN AWAY UP IN THE NORTH. YOU'VE GOT THE HOOVER ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. AND THEN NUMBER NUMBER FOUR IS NUMBER EIGHT. AND NUMBER FOUR ARE REALLY A RESULT. THEY'RE ALREADY IN PROGRESS AS FAR AS STARTING TO DESIGN OR AT LEAST NUMBER FOUR IS AND THOSE WERE BROUGHT IN BECAUSE OF THAT PROBLEM WITH THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WHERE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO STAY SYNCHRONIZED AND YOU'LL HAVE KIND OF A BOTTLENECK BETWEEN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH OF THAT OF THAT PRESSURE PLANE. SO, SO NUMBER FOUR REALLY SOLVES THAT ISSUE. AND YOU'LL SEE IT'S OUT ON THE EDGE OF THE CCN. ORIGINALLY WE JUST THE FIRST THOUGHT WAS JUST GO THROUGH THE EXISTING PIPING. AND THERE'S A 12 INCH THAT GOES THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHATNOT FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. AND WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD JUST EXPAND THAT. BUT THEN WE GOT INTO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CONSTRUCTION INCONVENIENCES AND STUFF TO THE CITY. SO WE FOUND A BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO TEARING UP ROADS AND PUTTING IN A NEW PIPELINE TO REPLACE AN OLD PIPELINE. AS WE JUST WENT OUT ON THE EDGE OF THE CCN BOUNDARY AND TOOK A PIPELINE UP FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. AND THAT THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM WITH WATER FLOW BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH. AND THEN NUMBER SIX UP THERE IS A PUMP STATION THAT'S ALREADY IN DESIGN. THAT'S THE LAYMAN PUMP STATION IS BEING REDESIGNED AND EXPANDED. AND NUMBER FIVE KIND OF NORTH OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME PIPELINES UP BETWEEN THAT PUMP STATION TO WHERE THE DAISY LANE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS TO COMPLETE KIND OF THAT, THAT FLOW OF WATER FROM THE PUMP STATION TO THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK.

AND I'LL JUST GO ON TO THE NEXT NUMBER NINE, THE CIP PROJECT IS THAT PRESSURE PLANE MODIFICATION I MENTIONED EARLIER. WE WANT TO TAKE THE KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT HAS SOME OF THE LOWEST PRESSURES AND POTENTIALLY, ESPECIALLY AS WATER DEMANDS INCREASE, THAT THAT PRESSURE IS GOING TO BECOME MORE OF AN ISSUE. WE'LL TAKE THAT AND MOVE IT INTO PRESSURE PLANE TWO. IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL PIPING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT. ALL THE RED LINES ARE ADDITIONAL PIPING THAT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE TO CREATE THAT NEW PRESSURE PLANE BOUNDARY, AND MOVE THAT PART OF TOWN FROM PRESSURE PLANE ONE TO PRESSURE PLANE TWO. THE FINAL OF THE FOR THE FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD. NUMBER TEN 1112. NUMBER TEN. UP NORTH IS JUST THE LEHMANN ROAD EXTENSION. THAT'S JUST KIND OF COMPLETING A LOOP FROM PIPING THAT WAS PUT IN PREVIOUSLY. AND NUMBER 11 AND 12 ARE THE PUMP STATION TO RECEIVE THAT ALLIANCE WATER AND THE PIPE CONNECTING IT UP TO THE TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF PRESSURE PLANE TWO THAT YELLOW ORANGE ORANGE LINE NUMBER 12. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE FEED LINE THAT COMES OFF OF THE ALLIANCE PIPELINE SUPPLY LINE, GETTING THE WATER FROM THE ALLIANCE PIPELINE TO THE PUMP STATION IN THAT EXACT LOCATION OF THE PUMP STATION IS VARIABLE. THERE WAS A LOT IDENTIFIED WHERE IT'S SHOWN ON THE MAP. THAT MAY NOT BE THE FINAL PLACE THAT'S CHOSEN, BUT IT'LL BE SOMEWHERE.

IF YOU DREW A SMALL CIRCLE IN THAT AREA, IT'LL BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA. AND THAT'S REALLY THAT DOESN'T MATTER. AS FAR AS THE MODELING GOES, THE PIPING MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, A LITTLE BIT SHORTER, BUT THE RESULTS WOULD BE THE SAME. SO THOSE ARE THE CIP PROJECTS FOR THAT FIRST FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD. BEYOND THAT OF COURSE GROWTH CONTINUES. AND TO GET TO THE 2038 TIMEFRAME, THERE'S FOUR MORE PROJECTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE. AND THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL OF THE DISTRIBUTION PIPING THAT HAS TO BE PUT INTO NEIGHBORHOODS AS THEY'RE DEVELOPED. THIS THIS DOESN'T COVER THAT. IT JUST COVERS LIKE THE MAIN PROJECTS THAT WILL FEED WATER TO THOSE AREAS. SO NUMBER 13 IS THE NANCE TRACT, WHICH IS AN AREA OUT ON THE FAR WEST.

IT'S A LARGE TRACT. THERE'LL BE A TRANSMISSION LINE, 24 INCH LINE GOING FROM THE THAT ALLIANCE THAT ARE WITH THREE PUMP STATION GOING OUT TO THE WEST QUITE SOME DISTANCE. AND IT'LL FEED KIND OF THE WHOLE AREA OUT THERE. AT THE END OF IT THERE'LL BE AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, WHICH WE'RE CALLING THE NANCE TRACT, ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, OLD STAGECOACH ROAD, WHICH CURRENTLY HAS A 12 INCH LINE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. THAT'S INSUFFICIENT FOR FUTURE GROWTH.

AND THAT WILL HAVE TO BE IMPROVED TO A 16 INCH LINE. THAT ONE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT PAINFUL, BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT SOME ROADS AND MAKE SOME SOME INCONVENIENCE SITUATIONS, BUT THAT THAT DOES NEED TO IMPROVE FROM A 12 INCH TO A 16 INCH, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS TIME PERIOD. AND THEN THERE'S A PART THAT I'LL SHOW YOU IN THE MAP THAT'S OUT TO THE FAR WEST

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AND AS I TALKED ABOUT PRESSURE PLANES PREVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOING TO THE PRESSURE PLANE THAT'S ESTABLISHED OUT. THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK OUT THERE AND HAVE A REAL SMALL AREA THAT HAS A WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT A FOURTH PRESSURE PLANE THAT'LL BE OUT THERE ON THE WESTERN EDGE. AND I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THAT WHEN WE GET TO IT. SO FOR 13, 14 AND 15, THAT'S THE THINGS GOING OUT TO THE NANCE TRACT. 13 AND 1513 IS A PIPELINE 15 WOULD BE ELEVATED. STORAGE TANK IS AND THAT'S A THAT'S A LONG RUN OF 24 INCH PIPE. SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. AND THEN OVER ON THE RIGHT IS THE RED AREA IS THE PARTS OF OLD STAGECOACH ROAD THAT WILL HAVE TO BE IMPROVED FROM A 12 INCH TO A 16 INCH. WHEN YOU GET OUT TO THE FAR WEST, THIS SHADED AREA LABELED NUMBER 16 IS WHERE THE ELEVATION JUST KIND OF GOES UP TOO HIGH, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL FOR YOUR ELEVATED STORAGE TANK OUT THERE AND JUST A DIFFERENT PRESSURE PLANE. JUST IN SUMMARY, THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE EXISTING SYSTEM WITH THE LARGER DIAMETER PIPE SHOWN THE YELLOW. ARE ALL THOSE PROJECTS PIPELINE WISE THAT WE SHOWED AND HOW THEY FIT IN. AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY DO. IS THEY THE CYAN COLOR OR THE 16 INCH EXISTING. AND THOSE YELLOWS ARE 24 AND 16 INCH LINES PROPOSED. YOU CAN SEE HOW IT COMPLETES THE FLOW FROM NORTH TO SOUTH ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY. SO BOTH SIDES OF TOWN, THESE NEW PROJECTS WILL GET THINGS LINKED FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, SO YOU CAN GET SUFFICIENT WATER FLOW FROM ONE PUMP STATION TO ONE DIFFERENT AREAS. AND THAT JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE. AND JUST TO SUMMARIZE ALL THOSE, THIS KIND OF SIMILAR TABLE AS BEFORE, IN THE FIVE YEAR TIME FRAME, WE'VE GOT 31 DEVELOPMENTS THAT WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT POPULATION GROWTH. AND THERE'S 12 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WILL NEED TO BE COMPLETED TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM HAS THE CAPACITY TO DELIVER THAT WATER. AND THE TOTAL ESTIMATED COST FOR ALL OF THOSE AT THIS POINT IS 137 MILLION. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN, THERE'S DETAILED SHEETS IN THERE THAT HAVE DETAIL ABOUT EACH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS. YOU KIND OF SEE WHAT EACH ONE IS ESTIMATED TO COST. WHEN YOU GET TO THE 15 YEAR TIME FRAME. THE LAST OF THOSE 36 PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY BUILT OUT TO 100%, AND YOU'LL NEED THESE ADDITIONAL FOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THE CAPACITY OF THE SYSTEM IS ADEQUATE. AND THE ESTIMATED COST ON THOSE IS 60, ALMOST 62 MILLION. AND THEN BEYOND THAT, AS WE SHOWED BEFORE, ALL THE GROWTH FROM THAT POINT IS GOING TO BE BACK TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE CITY. AND SO WE DON'T NEED A WHOLE LOT MORE PIPELINES AND WHATNOT. BUT WHAT WE WILL NEED IS TO FINISH BUILD OUT OF THE PUMP STATIONS AND THEIR GROUND STORAGE TANKS, AND WE'LL NEED AN ADDITIONAL ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE LOCATION FOR THAT YET. THAT'S KIND OF FAR OUT THERE IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT CLOSER WHEN WE DO UPDATES TO THIS. AND AT SOME POINT, THE PLUM CREEK ELEVATED STORAGE TANK, WHICH IS EXISTING, THAT WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED EITHER WHERE IT IS OR NEARBY, DIFFERENT LOCATION, BUT THAT'LL THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS WELL. SO THAT'S IT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE PART.

JUST WANTED TO KIND OF REVIEW WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. OVERALL A LOT OF BULLETS HERE. BUT THE FIRST ARE JUST ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. THE FIELD TESTING FOR THE AQUIFER STORAGE RECOVERY. WE TALKED PHIL TALKED ABOUT. THE DIRECT POTABLE REUSE IS MENTIONED THERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE GBRA WATER SECURE PROGRAM AND THEN COORDINATION WITH THE IOWA PHASE TWO PROJECT FOR POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY. SO THAT WAS ALL COVERED PREVIOUSLY. AND WHAT I'VE AND THEN THE CONSERVATION PLAN AND DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN, WHAT I TALK MORE ABOUT IS GETTING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IDENTIFIED AND GET THOSE INTO THE FIVE YEAR CIP. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW THOSE. WE HAD 130 SOME ODD MILLION DOLLARS THERE FOR THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. AND THERE'S A POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, FOR LOOKING AT FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING TO HELP MAYBE FUND SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. AND THEN THIS, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT SOMETHING AS TODAY AS BEST WE CAN, LOOKING AT HOW IT IS TODAY AND WHAT THE PROJECTIONS ARE. BUT THESE DEMAND PROJECTIONS NEED TO BE UPDATED YEARLY OR ON SOME, SOME SCHEDULE, BECAUSE WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, SOMETHING MAY HAVE CHANGED AND MAYBE THE GROWTH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AREA.

OR MAYBE THE NUMBERS, IT'S FASTER OR IT'S SLOWER OR DIFFERENT AREA. THOSE KIND OF THINGS NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. SO THIS IS NOT A STATIC PLAN. THIS HAS TO BE KIND OF A DYNAMIC PLAN

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ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE? I KNOW STEVE AND OUR TEAM WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU.

THIS WAS ALL LIKE RELATED TO THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, PRESSURE PLANES AND STORAGE TANKS, RIGHT? YOU DID NOT INCLUDE WASTEWATER LINES BEING NEEDED OR UPGRADED. NO, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO WITH WASTEWATER. THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT. IS THERE GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT WAY TO LOOK AT THAT? YES. WE'RE WE'RE ALREADY ENGAGED WITH STEVE AS WELL TO DO THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN. AND SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS ON THAT, MIKE. IT'S SEVERAL MONTHS BEFORE THAT WILL BE READY, BUT WE'LL COME BACK AND HAVE A WASTEWATER MASTER. LOOKS LIKE THE MUCH LIKE THE WATER MASTER PLAN IS ABOUT A TEN MONTH PROCESS. AND SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO START THAT. AND LIKE MANY THINGS THAT THE CITY MANAGER JUST SAID. AND THEN IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS AND MONTHS, WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL TO ACT ON THIS. THE ISSUES AND THE AND THE THINGS BROUGHT UP IN THIS WATER MASTER PLAN. MANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN HERE, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ON, BUT BE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING VERY QUICKLY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON THE AQUIFER STORAGE, RECOVERY AND INDIRECT POTABLE REUSE. AND WE'RE GOING TO START THOSE PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENTS, AND WE'LL BE COMING UP WITH BUDGETED NUMBERS ON WHAT THAT FIRST PHASE OF THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. SO WHEN 2030 ROLLS AROUND, WE'RE GOING TO BE READY FOR THESE ALTERNATE SOURCES OF WATER. WE THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT OUR WATER PORTFOLIO AND TRY TO GROW THAT WITH CITIES OR AGENCIES LIKE WE DID WITH GREEN VALLEY, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRING MORE OF THOSE FORWARD TO YOU IN UPCOMING MONTHS. I THINK THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. AND THEN THE SORT OF THE NEXT PHASE OF

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[2) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding an update on Alliance Regional Water Authority (ARWA) projects.]

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THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS THE CRITICAL PATH TO DELIVERY. SO WHAT HOW DID THE DECISION GET MADE TO KNOWINGLY DELAY AND CONTINUE TO PURSUE VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR EASEMENT ACQUISITION, WHEN OBVIOUSLY IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE MOST CRITICAL PROJECT IN CITY HISTORY, AND THE TIMELINESS OF IT IS EXTREMELY OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE. SO WHY DID THAT DELAY OCCUR WITHOUT US BEING ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE? WELL, WE WERE WE WERE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE ACQUISITION TEAM TO TRY AND GET THAT ACQUIRED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. OUR CONTACT WITH NORTH POINT DEVELOPMENT CONTINUED TO ASSURE US IT WAS GOING TO BE DONE BY DONATION, AND HE WAS WORKING TO GET SIGNATURES, BUT IT BECAME CLEAR THAT JUST WAS NOT HAPPENING, AND THAT'S WHEN WE PULLED THE TRIGGER TO MAKE THE FINANCIAL OFFER TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THIS PORTION OF THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE THE CRITICAL PATH, THE LAST REMAINING PORTION THAT HAD TO BE DONE. HOWEVER, THEY ALSO DID ENCOUNTER SOME HARDER SOILS IN THAT AREA WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE TUNNELING. THAT SLOWED THEM DOWN A LITTLE BIT. SO WHEN, WHEN DID THE ACQUISITION OF THE EASEMENT ACTUALLY HAPPEN? OCTOBER 21ST, I BELIEVE OF 2024 IS WHEN WE CLOSED ON THAT EASEMENT. SO YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN BY THEN THAT THERE WOULD BE A DELAY FROM FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY TO MAY. WE STILL THOUGHT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE FEBRUARY TIMELINE.

HOWEVER, THEY STARTED ENCOUNTERING HARDER SOILS, WHICH CAUSED SOME DELAYS IN THEIR TUNNELING EFFORTS. MONTHS OF DELAYS APPARENTLY ABOUT SIX WEEKS OF DELAYS, YOU KNOW, IN TOTAL. SO CERTAINLY TAKE YOUR POINT AND AGREE TO YOUR POINT THAT THAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE PROACTIVE IN MOVING THAT FORWARD MORE QUICKLY. AND BASICALLY WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE FEBRUARY UNTIL JUST NOW. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE BEING TOLD AT THE END OF MARCH THAT AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY MAY. SO I THINK THERE'S JUST CONCERNS THAT SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING TO COME UP. AND IF THIS SUPPLY, WHICH YOU JUST SAW THE PRESENTATION AS TO HOW CRITICAL PHASE ONE B WATER IS TO THE CITY OF KYLE, IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO GET THIS ON IN MAY, THAT'S LITERALLY THE LAST MINUTE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GET IT ON WITHOUT HAVING SERIOUS INTERRUPTIONS IN SERVICE GOING INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS. SO I'M JUST I'M WANTING SOME ASSURANCES, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ALL WANT

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THIS IS JUST OUR OVERALL SITE. AGAIN WE START WITH RAW WATER TANKS ON THE HIGH END. WE FLOW THROUGH BY GRAVITY DOWN THROUGH OUR CHEMICAL AREAS, FILTERS INTO THE CLEAR WELL, AND THEN PUMPS THAT PUSH THAT WATER OUT FROM A TREATMENT PERSPECTIVE. OVERALL, THE TREATMENT PLANT IS DESIGNED TO REMOVE BOTH IRON AND MANGANESE AND THEN CONDITION THE WATER TO BLEND NICELY WITH ALL OF OUR CUSTOMER'S EXISTING SYSTEMS. IN ADDITION, THE EPA SETS SECONDARY STANDARDS FOR BOTH IRON AND MANGANESE THAT ARE PRESENT IN POTABLE WATER TO PREVENT TASTE AND ODOR ISSUES.

IN ADDITION TO THOSE STANDARDS, WE HAD OUR OWN TREATMENT GOALS THAT WE SET AGAIN TO MAKE THE WATER MORE STABLE AND NON-CORROSIVE, SO IT WOULD BLEND WELL WITH ALL OF THE EXISTING EDWARDS SOURCES AND CANYON LAKE SOURCES THAT OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE ALL OF THE WATER THAT IS LEFT THE TREATMENT PLANT TO DATE MEETS ALL OF THESE STANDARDS AND GOALS, AND WE'RE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH NOT ONLY THE EPA T-C-E-Q STANDARDS, BUT ALSO IN OUR OWN GOALS WITH THE WATER THAT IS LEAVING THE PLANT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING MUCH HIGHER IRON LEVELS FROM WELLS THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED IN THE DESIGN. SO WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY THE IRON? FOR ONE, IT REDUCES THE FILTER RUNTIMES BEFORE THEY HAVE TO BE BACKWASHED AND CLEANED.

THE INITIAL DESIGN HAD THOSE FILTER RUNTIMES, AND THE 24 TO 30 HOURS BEFORE THEY HAD TO BE BACKWASHED. HOWEVER, BASED ON THE ACTUAL LOADING THAT WE'RE GETTING IN OF IRON, THOSE ACTUAL RUNTIMES ARE AS LOW AS SIX HOURS, SIX HOURS AT THE HIGHER IRON LEVEL TIME FRAMES. SO THE NET EFFECT OF THIS IS THAT WE HAVE LESS TREATED WATER COMING OUT OF THE PLANT. SO THE DESIGN FLOW RATE AND TOTAL OF THE PLANT WAS 19.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. THE CURRENTLY OPERATING AT ABOUT 4.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, BUT ONLY ON A REDUCED TIME FRAME. THEY'RE ONLY OPERATING RIGHT NOW AT 12 HOURS OPERATION. THEY CAN INCREASE THAT TIME FRAME AND WILL INCREASE THAT TIME FRAME AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE SUMMER. SO THE INCREASED BACKWASH IS ALSO OVERWHELM THE SOLIDS HANDLING AND RECYCLE WATER SYSTEMS. THEY WERE NOT DESIGNED TO TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL SALT, THE IRON THAT COMES OFF THOSE FILTERS DURING THE BACKWASH AND TAKE THAT THOSE SOLIDS OUT AND RETURN ALL OF THAT WATER BACK TO THE HEAD OF THE PLANT. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING

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IN FACT, I WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON THAT IN A MINUTE. WE HAVE SOME INCENTIVES FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO BEAT THAT PERFORMANCE BY EITHER MID-JUNE, OR EVEN GREATER INCENTIVES IF THEY COMPLETE IT BY MAY 31ST. SO THIS IS ANOTHER REASON FEBRUARY WAS NEVER AN OPTION, BECAUSE IT WAS. IT'S ALWAYS SO LIKE HOW? WHAT IS? LET'S ASSUME THAT THE PIPELINE AT IS COMPLETED AND WE'RE CONNECTED AND THE WATER IS ON RIGHT NOW. HOW MUCH IS AVAILABLE TO US BECAUSE OF THE SHORTENED CAPACITY OF DUE TO IRON ISSUES, IT'D BE ABOUT A THIRD OF KYLE'S COMMITMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF MGD. SO IT'S A THIRD OF WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WHEN THIS PIPE IS DONE, IS A THIRD OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET, AND WE'RE WAITING ON THIS IRON ISSUE TO BE RESOLVED UNTIL WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET THE FULL AMOUNT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WHEN DID YOU NUMBER ONE, HOW IS IT THAT THE THAT THAT WE WERE SO FAR OFF ON OUR IRON ESTIMATIONS, WHEN AND AT WHAT POINT DID WE BECOME AWARE THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE CRITICALLY LOW ON THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE WATER FROM THE HEADWORKS? SO IT WAS IN NOVEMBER, EARLY NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, IS WHEN WE REALLY DETERMINED THAT THE IRON ISSUES WERE CAUSING REDUCED CAPACITY. WE HAD SOME BRAND NEW PLANTS STARTING UP. THEY WERE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THE CHEMICAL ADDITIONS TO TRY AND DETERMINE WHAT THE SITUATION WAS, AND THEY NARROWED IT DOWN. THE OPERATIONS TEAM NARROWED IT DOWN THAT THE IRON LEVELS INFLUENT TO THE PLANT WERE HIGHER THAN WHAT THE DESIGN INTENT WAS OF THE PLANT.

SO WAS IT WAS IT INITIALLY PROJECTED THAT THE THAT IT JUST WOULDN'T THERE WOULDN'T BE THIS MUCH IRON. HOW IS IT THAT WE MISSED THAT PROJECTION SO MUCH. YEAH. SO THE DESIGN ENGINEER CREATED A DESIGN BASIS REPORT AND EVALUATED THE REGION FOR THE AMOUNT OF IRON THAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED AS PART OF THEIR DESIGN THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE TREATMENT PROCESS. IN THAT EFFORT, THEY DETERMINED THAT THE DESIGN LEVELS WOULD BE 1MG/L OF IRON. WHEN WE'VE BEEN SEEING 6 TO 7 TIMES THAT, WHEN THE ACTUAL BLENDED IRON PRODUCTION AND BLENDED WELLS COME INTO THE FACILITY, AND YOU ONLY JUST LEARNED OF THAT INCREASE IN. YOU SAID IN NOVEMBER WHEN WE STARTED OPERATIONS AND DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS THE REAL BOTTLENECK, WE HAD SOME TESTING OF THE WELLS THAT SHOWED HIGHER IRON LEVELS. WE PROVIDED THAT TO THE DESIGN ENGINEER BASED ON THEIR HISTORY AND EXPERIENCE IN THE CARRIZO, THEY SAID THEY STILL ANTICIPATED THOSE IRON LEVELS TO DROP TO 1MG/L AND WOULD NOT BE A LONG TERM PROBLEM. SO DID ANYONE WARN YOU THAT WE MAY HAVE BASICALLY A PRETTY MAJOR DESIGN FLAW THAT WOULD JUST MAKE PRODUCTION? NO, NOT WHAT IT SHOULD BE. WE WERE NOT UNTIL WE STARTED OPERATIONS AND STARTED AGAIN TRYING TO TRACK WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS, AND DETERMINED THAT IT WAS THE ELEVATED IRON LEVELS THAT HAVE CAUSED THIS. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE TO HAVE PREVENTED THIS? AND OR ONCE WE RECOGNIZE THE POTENTIAL FOR AN ISSUE TO HAVE CHANGED OUR PATH SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DELIVER THE WATER ON SCHEDULE. SO, I MEAN, THE FIX, THERE'S AN ENGINEERING FIX AND A CONSTRUCTION FIX, WHICH IS TO ADD ADDITIONAL TREATMENT, ANOTHER STEP IN THE PROCESS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR OUR LONG TERM EXPANSION. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. HAD WE IDENTIFIED THAT, YOU KNOW, 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, WE WOULD HAVE BUILT THAT INTO THE

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WE HAVE TO DATE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO PURSUE THAT OPTION. AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR BOARD IS KEENLY AWARE OF AND LOOKING AT, AT ALL OPTIONS TO TRY AND RESOLVE, BOTH MONETARILY AND IN ADDITION TO THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF MAKING SURE WE TREAT ALL THE WATER. WHERE DOES THE ACCOUNTABILITY LIE WITH A MISTAKE THAT'S GOING TO COST MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? WELL, I BELIEVE IT LIES WITH THE ENGINEER. AND SO IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THAT ENGINEER AGAIN? IT IS SAFE TO SAY THAT OUR EXPANSION IS NOT BEING DONE BY THE SAME ENGINEER. THANK YOU.

AND THAT DECISION WAS MADE BEFORE WE KNEW OF THIS ISSUE. AND GRAHAM, HAS ACTION BEEN TAKEN AGAINST THE ENGINEERING FIRM? I'M SORRY. SAY AGAIN, HAS ACTION BEEN TAKEN AGAINST THE ENGINEERING FIRM TO MAKE THIS RIGHT? WE HAVE NOT TAKEN FORMAL ACTION AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE REVIEWED IT AND ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL BE TAKING FORMAL ACTION, BUT THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMMENCED AT THIS POINT. THANKS, GRAHAM. WHAT RESEARCH, I GUESS, DID YOU ALL DO ON YOUR OWN? WHY WOULDN'T YOU ASK FOR A SECOND OPINION IF YOU KIND OF FELT SKEPTICAL OF THE DATA YOU WERE GETTING AND, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATING THAT IT WAS GOING TO DROP? I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T REALLY SEEM TO BE A GOOD REASON FOR THAT. I GUESS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WATER IS GOING TO AT A VERY DEEP AQUIFER, IS GOING TO HAVE AN ANAEROBIC ENVIRONMENT. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THAT INSOLUBLE IRON.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE SOLUBLE FORM. BUT WHY WHY WOULDN'T YOU I GUESS ASK FOR MORE TECHNICAL OR SEND OUT FOR MORE ANALYSIS, JUST SO THAT YOU'D BE VERY CERTAIN THAT WE WOULD BE IN A BETTER SITUATION? SURE. WE RELIED HEAVILY ON OUR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT TEAM TO HELP US PROVIDE THAT TECHNICAL REVIEW. THAT'S ONE OF THE ASSETS THEY DID, AND THAT'S WHY THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED DURING THE REVIEW OF THOSE EARLY DESIGNS AND PRELIMINARY BASIS REPORT BY THE ENGINEER TO REQUEST, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ENGINEER, WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS ACCURATE? WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN? THEY HAD AN EXPERIENCE, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING DEMONSTRATED TO US TO SHOW ANALYTICALLY THAT THE NUMBERS DROP, THAT THE WELLS IN SOME AREAS OF THE CARRIZO AQUIFER DO DROP SIGNIFICANTLY IN THEIR IRON DEMAND THROUGH TIME, INCLUDING THE SAAS PLANT HAS HAD OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY HAD ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION PUT IN BECAUSE THEY ANTICIPATED HIGHER IRON LEVELS THAT THEN DID NOT END UP OCCURRING THROUGH TIME, AND SO THEY SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY ON ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION THAT THEY DON'T NEED A DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL TREATMENT UNITS THAT THEY DO NOT NEED. AND SO THE ENGINEER HAD THAT SPECIFIC SET OF DATA BASED ON HIS EXPERIENCE THAT THAT HE

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BUT THE INTERIM SOLUTION ISN'T GUARANTEED BECAUSE WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T TESTED IT. WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. WE'RE JUST WE'RE WE'RE TAKING, I GUESS SECOND HAND THAT IT COULD WORK, BUT WE DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, IT'S A TECHNICAL PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE SET UP YET. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 15 SEPARATE UNITS, 15 OF THE SAME UNITS. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE VENDOR TO COME OUT AND DO SOME ADDITIONAL CHEMICAL ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDING THE RIGHT COAGULANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE IRON RESOLVED TO THE 80 TO 90% LEVEL.

I MEAN, WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THESE UNITS WE DID A VISIT TO UNITS IN MOBILE, ALABAMA, THEY WERE INSTALLED LIKE THIS THAT REDUCE IRON LEVELS. WE'VE SEEN THE TESTING ON THAT TO SHOW THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE IRON LEVELS BY 90% AT THAT FACILITY. SO WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE RIGHT CHEMICAL ADDITIONS THAT WE CAN, THESE UNITS WILL REDUCE THAT IRON LEVEL TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEED IT TO RESTORE THE FULL CAPACITY OF THE PLANT. YEAH. I'LL LET YOU GO ON. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SURE. WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP ASKING A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN DID WE DO THE RIBBON CUTTING OF THE OF THE DECEMBER EARLY DECEMBER. SO GBRA IS A BIG PARTNER. WAS NOT THERE AT THAT RIBBON CUTTING. THEY WERE THERE.

THEY WERE THERE. YES, SIR. THEY HAD ATTENDEES THERE. THEY DID. YES, SIR. THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THEM REFLECT A THAT THERE WERE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE ABILITY OF THE PLANT TO PRODUCE ON TIME AND ON SCHEDULE, AND YET THE ANNOUNCEMENTS WERE COMING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE THERE WAS GOING TO BE PRODUCTION ON TIME AND ON SCHEDULE. ONLY THAT TIME, AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER, DID I BECOME AWARE THAT THERE WAS ANY ISSUES WHATSOEVER WITH REGARDS TO THE PRODUCTION OF WATER FROM THESE HEADWORKS AND THE DELIVERY SCHEDULE. AND THAT'S AFTER WE HAD, YOU KNOW, GONE OUT AND MADE A VERY PUBLIC PROCLAMATION AS TO WHEN THIS WATER WAS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE. AND IT ONLY SEEMS NOW THAT AT THE TIME THAT THAT HAPPENED, THAT THERE WAS LITERALLY ZERO CHANCE THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE WATER ON TIME AND ON SCHEDULE. AND SO HERE WE ARE NOW, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO PUT IN THIS FINAL PIECE OF PIPING TO GET THE ACTUAL WATER TURNED ON. BUT THAT'S NOT THAT'S ONLY GOING TO DELIVER ONE THIRD THE VALUE.

THE INTERIM SOLUTION IS NOT HERE AND WON'T BE HERE UNTIL WE'RE TOLD JUNE. BUT BUT MY EXPERIENCE IS I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN OR NOT. AND THEN TO COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA'S POINT, WE DON'T YET KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE THE ISSUE. SO THERE'S AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THERE'S SERIOUS WORRY OVER THE DELIVERY OF THIS PROJECT. AND THEN ALSO I, YOU KNOW, HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN TRUST WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD WITH REGARDS TO 100% AVAILABLE HERE IN JUST A COUPLE MONTHS. SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT AND TRY TO HELP ASSURE US THAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WHEN IT WAS KNOWN OR NOT OR THE PAST, HOW CAN WE TAKE AS CERTAIN THE PROJECTIONS THAT ARE FOR THAT FORWARD LOOKING, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HIT RIGHT ON THE VERY EDGE? AND HONESTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO HIT BEYOND THE EDGE OF WHEN OUR SUMMER MONTHS START. AND CANYON LAKE IS ALREADY EXTREMELY LOW. CANYON LAKE IS ONLY, AS WE JUST LEARNED, AT A 15% REDUCTION, BUT IT CAN DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF REDUCTION THAT IT TAKES. AND IF THAT BIG CHUNK IS REDUCED FURTHER, WE COULD BE IN TROUBLE.

AND SO I'M I'M REALLY LOOKING TO YOU TO KIND OF HELP RIGHT THE SHIP FOR US SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE MOVING FORWARD. AND NOT JUST IT WAS A DESIGN ENGINEER'S FAULT AND IT WAS SOME EXPERTS WHO JUST TOLD US, YEAH, IT'S PRODUCING HIGH IRON, BUT IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN. AND THEN THAT ENDED UP LIKE JUST TRUSTING SOMEONE AND LIKE, WE NEED ASSURANCE FROM YOU IN PARTICULAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THIS WATER, AT LEAST ON THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU'RE GIVING US TODAY. RIGHT. WELL, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS EFFORT OVER THE LAST FOUR PLUS MONTHS NOW. SO WHEN WE HAD THE RIBBON CUTTING IN EARLY DECEMBER, WE HAD LEARNED THAT IRON LEVELS WERE HIGH. WE WERE STILL INVESTIGATING AT THE VERY START OF INVESTIGATING REALLY WHAT THE OPTIONS WERE TRYING TO SEE IF WE COULD FLUSH WELLS, TRYING TO DETERMINE IF THOSE IRON LEVELS WERE CHANGING THROUGH TIME, TRYING TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS. SO I, I CERTAINLY DIDN'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF THE PROBLEM AT THE AT THE

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OUR DESIGN ENGINEERS ARE WORKING QUICKLY ON THAT AND EXPECT TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN PRESENT TO BOTH OUR TECHNICAL COMMITTEE AND BOARD IN THEIR APRIL MEETINGS. SO I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST SALIENT POINT HERE. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. GRAHAM I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO MENTION THE COST YET, BUT I'M LOOKING AT ANOTHER ADDED COST TO ALL OF OUR WATER USERS. PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT THEIR WATER RATES ALREADY, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INTERIM SOLUTION THAT IS GOING TO BE COSTLY. AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING TO UPGRADE THE PLANT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT LEVEL OF IRON, WHICH WOULD BE ANOTHER COST TO THIS ROA, YOU KNOW, PROJECT. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, AND I REMEMBER WHEN YOU CAME BACK IN SOMETIME LAST YEAR AND THERE WAS A DELAY THAT COST US 15, ANOTHER 8 MILLION TO DO MORE PIPING WASN'T IN THERE. SO I ECHO LIKE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE FEELING IS FRUSTRATION. LIKE WE'VE JUST BEEN HEARING WHAT GETS SET BACK. YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF EXCUSES. YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING ABOUT THIS EASEMENT WITH THE TUNNEL. YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THAT AS A COUNCIL.

BUT I ALSO SAY STAFF SHOULD HAVE TOLD US TOO, YOU KNOW, SO WHOEVER YOU WERE IN COMMUNICATION WITH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT DOESN'T JUST FALL HERE, BUT WE NEED TO BE I GUESS, GET THAT COMMUNICATION SOONER SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT EXACTLY IS THE DATE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE DELIVERED. AND I'M A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I'VE KNOWN THAT THE THING HAS BEEN WORKED ON FOR 20 YEARS. RIGHT. SO I THINK IT'S A AND NOW WE NEED IT. IT'S LIKE SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE ROOM TO MISS IT. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED. WE'RE IN THE DROUGHT AND WE'RE STILL GROWING. WE'RE NOTHING IS STOPPING HERE. SO THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHERE THE REAL PRESSURE IS. YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. AND OF COURSE IT'S THE COST PART OF SOMETHING PROBABLY WE COULD HAVE BUILT INTO THE DESIGN. AND NOW IT'S LIKE NOW WE HAVE TO ADD RETRO.

AND AT THE SAME TIME WE LOST THIS. AND THEN THIS INTERIM SOLUTION IS KIND OF LIKE JUST THROWING MONEY AWAY IN MY MIND BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LONG TERM. AND NOW WE'RE BUYING MORE WATER FROM GREEN VALLEY AND OTHER LITTLE UTILITIES WHO HAVE IT. SO IT'S ALL STARTS TO ADD UP. AND IN MY VIEW, SURE. GRAHAM, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE FILTERING PROCESS LIKE THE HOW THE INTERIM SOLUTION WORKS AND HOW YOU PLAN TO MAKE THAT INTERIM SOLUTION OR EVOLVE IT INTO A PERMANENT SOLUTION. SO THERE WILL BE THERE WILL BE TWO SEPARATE SOLUTIONS SO THAT THE INTERIM SOLUTION, WHICH I'VE, I'M SURE IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN, BUT IS A LAYOUT WE WILL DOWNSTREAM OF OUR MIXING BASINS WHERE WE ADD IN OUR CHEMICALS. BUT BEFORE IT GOES INTO OUR CURRENT GRAVITY SAND FILTERS, WE WILL PULL THE WATER OFF TO THE SIDE, AND THEN WE WILL RUN THEM THROUGH THESE 15 BALLASTED FLOCCULATING UNITS THAT WILL REMOVE THAT IRON. AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE WATER THAT COMES OUT OF THAT AND RETURN IT BACK ALMOST TO THE SAME LOCATION AND CONTINUE IT DOWN THROUGH THE GRAVITY SAND FILTERS. WE ARE PULLING OFF. THERE'S SOME REJECT THAT COMES OFF OF THOSE FLOCCULATION THAT WE WILL DEWATER AND TRY AND KEEP THAT WATER IN CYCLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST JUST DISPOSING OF THAT WATER.

AND SO THAT WILL THEN GO BACK THROUGH THE REST OF THE REGULAR TREATMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS THE GRAVITY SAND FILTRATION. AND THEN WE ADD CHLORINE AND IT GOES INTO OUR CLEAR WELL. AND THEN ULTIMATELY THROUGH THE HIGH SERVICE PUMP STATIONS AND OUT TO THE SYSTEM. SO IT JUST PULLS IT OFF TO THE SIDE STREAM AND REMOVES THAT ADDITIONAL IRON LEVEL AND THEN RETURNS IT BACK.

IN TERMS OF A PERMANENT SOLUTION WE'RE LOOKING AT AGAIN, WE HAVE ABOUT 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE BEING REVIEWED. IT WILL IN ALL LIKELIHOOD BE SOME TYPE OF A STANDALONE CLARIFIER OR A PLATE SETTLER SYSTEM. AGAIN, IN THAT SAME GENERAL LOCATION BETWEEN WHERE WE ADD THE CHEMICALS AND THE RAPID MIX AND THE FILTRATION TO REMOVE THE ADDITIONAL IRON

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SO THERE WOULD BE AT AT PEAK FLOW WE'D HAVE 14 ACTIVE UNITS AND THEN ONE WOULD BE A BACKUP FLOW. SO A BACKUP UNIT THERE I THINK AT THIS POINT, BASED ON SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS IN THE SYSTEM, INCLUDING THOSE THAT ARE CONTRACTED THROUGH GBRA, IT IS CLEAR THAT THEY DO NOT INTEND OR NEED TO USE ALL OF THEIR FLOW IN IN THIS NEXT YEAR TO TWO YEARS.

AND SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE AT THE FULL 19.5 MGD OF FLOW. SO IN ACTUALITY, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE THREE TO 4 TO 5 OF THOSE UNITS AVAILABLE IF WE HAVE ONE DOWN OR TWO DOWN FOR SERVICE. BUT IN TERMS OF IF WE WERE AT PEAK FLOW FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS, 19.5 MGD, IT WOULD TAKE 14 OF THOSE UNITS AND WE HAVE 15 ON SITE, AND WE HAVE OPERATORS ON SITE DOING PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ON THAT, CHECKING SAND LEVELS AND EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE, DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CHALLENGES COMING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF, AS WELL AS SPARE PARTS ON SITE TO HANDLE THOSE ISSUES. WE ALSO HAVE IT A TEMPORARY GENERATOR WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN TO BACK THIS UP SO THAT WE HAVE IF WE HAVE A POWER OUTAGE, WE CAN RUN ON TEMPORARY GENERATORS TO PROVIDE THIS ADDITIONAL TREATMENT AS WELL. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. OKAY. THE ONLY OTHER THING, IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME TO ADDRESS THE CARRIZO, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CARRIZO AQUIFER AND REGIONAL PLANNING. AND IN THAT EFFORT, AND I THINK JAMES BEACH DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF KIND OF DESCRIBING THAT WE PARTICIPATE ACTIVELY EVERY MONTH WITH OUR TWO GROUNDWATER DISTRICTS THAT MANAGE THE RESOURCE. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT IF THEY SEE THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM COMING WITH THE DESIRED FUTURE CONDITION IN THE FUTURE, THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN OUR PERMITTED AMOUNT OF WATER. AND SO THAT'S THE PLUM CREEK CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND THE GONZALEZ COUNTY UNDERGROUND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. SO WE ATTEND OR PARTICIPATE IN THOSE MEETINGS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THEY HAVE LONG TERM WATER LEVEL DRAWDOWN MAPS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT AND, AND PROJECT OUT WHAT THOSE LEVELS LOOK LIKE.

SO THE AGAIN, THE NICE THING ABOUT THE CARRIZO AQUIFER, IT IS SLOW TO REACT EITHER TO DRAWDOWN OR TO RECHARGE. AND SO WE CAN LOOK MANY YEARS INTO THE FUTURE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS COMPARED TO THE EDWARDS, WHICH IS VERY DEPENDENT ON USE RAINFALL. AND IT CAN CHANGE VERY RAPIDLY OVER TIME. THE CARRIZO DOES NOT OPERATE LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE ACTIVELY MONITORING THAT.

IT WILL BE, I THINK, AS WE'VE STARTED UP OUR WELLFIELD, GBRA HAS STARTED UP THEIR WELLFIELD.

IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE TIME FOR THAT AQUIFER TO ADJUST TO THAT AMOUNT OF PUMPING AND FOR US TO SEE WE KNOW WHAT THE MODELS ANTICIPATE. WE KNOW WHAT OUR EXPERTS ANTICIPATE. IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT OVER THE NEXT YEAR TO TWO YEARS AND SEE WHAT THOSE PROJECTIONS LOOK LIKE. BUT WE ARE WE FULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE STATE WATER PLAN, WHICH THE GMA, THE GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT AREA, THAT THAT THOSE GROUNDWATER DISTRICTS GET TOGETHER AND MANAGE THIS RESOURCE, THEY HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE STATE WATER PLANNING LEVEL. SO WE ARE PARTICIPATING AT THE RIGHT LEVELS TO MONITOR THIS AND UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE. WE, AS WE'VE TOLD THESE LANDOWNERS, WHEN WE WENT DOWN THERE TO START PERMITTING AND OR EXCUSE ME, TO START OUR LEASING EFFORTS BACK IN 2008, 2009. IT DOES US NO GOOD FOR THIS TO BE A 20 YEAR SUPPLY AND IT'S RUN OUT. WE NEED THIS TO BE A 100 YEAR SUPPLY OR BEYOND. OUR COMMUNITIES ARE RELYING ON THIS FOR A LOT LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. SO WE'RE ACTIVELY REVIEWING THAT INFORMATION AND MANAGING IT SO THAT WE CAN STAY AND HAVE ACTIVE RESOURCE AVAILABLE FOR ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS THROUGH THE LONG DURATION. THE LAST THING ON KIND

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THE GOVERNOR HAS ALREADY STATED THAT WATER IS A PRIORITY. WATER FUNDING IS A PRIORITY, AND THE HOUSE ON THEIR SIDE HAS A SIMILAR TYPE BILL TO SENATE BILL SEVEN TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO THERE IS SOME MOVEMENT UP FRONT AT THE LEGISLATURE TO TRY AND PUT MORE FUNDS INTO THIS AND IDENTIFY LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS TO HELP THE NEEDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REALLY FURTHER BEYOND THE SCALE. YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY MORE THE 50 TO 100 YEARS TO DETERMINE THOSE WATER SUPPLIES THAT COULD COME TO THE AREA. SO JUST SOMETHING I THINK FOR YOU TO MONITOR, AND IF YOU HAVE LOBBYISTS UP THERE, CERTAINLY SUPPORTING SENATE BILL SEVEN, I THINK WOULD WOULD BE A WISE SITUATION FOR THE CITY. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. GREAT.

THANK YOU. BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. WE'LL KEEP YOU UP TO DATE ON WHERE WE ARE. AND MAKE SURE I PROVIDE THOSE WEEKLY UPDATES TO THE COUNCIL. AND THE PLAN IS TO GET US UP AND RUNNING MAY 5TH. WELL, I WOULD SAY I DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS ON THE BOARD TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT IS EXPEDITED AND COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER. IT'S BECOMING ONE OF YOUR TRADEMARKS IS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, EXECUTE ON PROJECT DELIVERY AND TIMELINES. AND SO THAT EFFORT IS APPRECIATED. AND PLEASE, YOU KNOW, TAKE OUR OUR COMMENTS TO HEART AS YOU REPRESENT US ON THE BOARD. YES, SIR. WILL DO. AND I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE DOCTOR HARRIS'S CONTRIBUTIONS AS WELL AS MIKE MURPHY. I SIT ON THE BOARD WITH ME AS WELL, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSED ON IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MIKE AND LAURA LEE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD WITH REGARDS TO THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD? NO. PARDON ME? NO, I THINK THAT WE'RE WITH THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT, WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT IS COMPLETE. AND I THINK MIKE IS RIGHT ON OR GRAHAM IS RIGHT ON THE TIME FRAME NOW. THE IT'S A BIG PROJECT. IT'S BEEN A BIG PROJECT. AND WITH SOMETHING THIS MASSIVE WITH THIS MANY CITIES INVOLVED AND ENTITIES INVOLVED, IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME DELAYS. IT'S TIME TO BE DONE. IT CERTAINLY IS. BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE PHASE TWO ON NEW WELL FIELD STARTING THAT WILL ADD TO OUR CAPACITY IN THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, LIKE GRAHAM SAID, WE'RE THINKING FAR INTO THE FUTURE 100 YEARS, NOT JUST 20 YEARS. AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF ENTITIES THAT CONTROL THAT. SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL TO BE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND OUR ADVOCACY AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL TO ENSURE THAT THE STATE HAS ADEQUATE WATER, IT'S NOT JUST US. I HEAR THE MIC RUSTLING. YOU WANT TO CHIME IN HERE? NO. QUESTION. MAYOR. I'M TRYING TO LET TOBY SPEAK. SO. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU. BUT I. TOBIAS, I DON'T KNOW IF

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I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A SMALL SUMMARY REPORT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COUNCIL IN SUCH A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT THAT TOOK PLACE. I WOULD I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE ROAD BOND. IF THE ROAD BOND DOESN'T COME ONLINE AND IT GOES 100 MILLION OVER BUDGET, THAT THERE SHOULD BE A SUMMARY REPORT ON WHAT WERE THOSE IMPEDIMENTS? WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE REALLY REFERRING TO MORE AS LIKE AN INVESTIGATION. ESSENTIALLY. I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THAT LINK, BUT I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A SUMMARY REPORT FOR THE COUNCIL TO BE BRIEFED AND RECORDED, LIKE A TIMELINE OF EVENTS, BASICALLY. AND THAT LAYS OUT A SUMMARY REPORT, SUMMARY REPORT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO DRILL DOWN INTO WHAT IT MEANS. I SUPPORT IF THE MAYOR IS INTERESTED IN AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY NO TO THAT. I'M JUST I JUST WANTED A REPORT, SOME SOMETHING WRITTEN UP FOR COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS CAN RESEARCH THAT AND LEARN FROM THAT WHEN THEY TAKE ON A BIGGER PROJECT AS WELL, THAT YOU MUST ASK THESE QUESTIONS EARLIER COUNCIL, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET THESE SURPRISES AS WELL. AND YOU'RE ON THE HOOK FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU YOU SERVED DURING THOSE PERIODS. SO NOT YOU SHOULD NOT BE NEGLIGENT OF THESE BIG PROJECTS. THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, ME AND COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO ALWAYS ASK ABOUT THOSE ROADS AND TOBIAS AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER BIG PROJECT. ONE THING I COULD OFFER, PERHAPS, IF THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL, IS A TIMELINE OF THE PROJECT I THINK WOULD BE MAYBE HELPFUL FOR COUNCIL TO SEE THAT, AND THEN KEY LESSONS LEARNED THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO FUTURE PHASES. AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE OTHER TWO PHASES, LARGE PHASES THAT ARE COMING IN 27 AND 32. AND THEY'RE CRITICAL. YOU SAW THAT WITH OUR SUPPLY PROJECTIONS. WE NEED THOSE TO COME ON. THEY HAVE TO HIT THOSE DATES. SO WHAT ARE THE LESSONS THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THE PRIOR EXPERIENCES TO PROJECT US FORWARD, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T REPEAT THOSE IN THE FUTURE? YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE WITH THE PIPELINE RELATE TO RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, LOTS OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT PERHAPS. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD MAYBE EVEN BROADEN IT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE BECAUSE IN REALITY, LIKE THE ACTUAL TRUTH IS THIS ISN'T A MULTI-MONTH DELAY. IT'S A MULTI-YEAR DELAY. SO WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ALL THE YEARS AND ALWAYS BEEN HERE. SO I'VE HAD EVERY SINGLE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, EVERY SINGLE TIMELINE MISSED. AND IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO, YOU KNOW, TO GO BACK AND JUST LIKE YOU SAY, I'M REALLY MORE HOLDING MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I MENTIONED THAT THE STATE OF WATER IN, IN EVERY STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE STAYED ON THE WATER ISSUES AND YET I FEEL ALMOST POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT EACH TIME IT'S BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S ABOUT TO BE HERE. I THINK IT'S ABOUT TO BE HERE. SO I THINK, OKAY, IT'S LIKE, I'LL JUST GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE AND A LITTLE MORE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT GETS TO A IT GETS TO A CERTAIN POINT WHERE I JUST START WANTING TO HAVE I WANT ANSWERS,

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WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S DELIVERED BY TAKING THIS PATH. WHEN THOSE PATHS WERE THERE, THEY WERE THERE FOR US TO TAKE, I THINK. BUT WE JUST WE WERE AT ARM'S LENGTH AND KIND OF BEHOLDEN TO WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS PROJECT. SO WHAT CAN WE DO? SO THERE'S NEVER BEEN A REQUEST BROUGHT TO THIS BOARD AND THIS BODY FOR ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS THAT WE HAVE DENIED. I MEAN, WE'VE SUPPORTED IT IN ITS 20 YEAR HISTORY WITH 100% YES VOTES AND THEN JUST ASKING THAT IT BE DELIVERED ON SCHEDULE. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW HELPFUL IT WOULD BE. I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS HAS TO DO WITH THE TRANSLATION OF THE COMMITMENT FROM US ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE AND THEN ACCOUNTABILITY, HOLDING OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATION, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTABLE OR THE ALLIANCE ACCOUNTABLE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF A SUMMARY REPORT WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION YOU SEEK. IF IT DID, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO SEE IT, I WOULD I, YOU KNOW, SO BUT WE'RE JUST IT COULD ALSO JUST END UP BEING THESE ARE ALL THE REASONS WHY YOUR PROJECT WAS DELAYED. AND THAT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE THAT HELPFUL.

BECAUSE WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW IS THIS IS WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE TO FIX IT AND WHY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DELIVERED ON TIME AND ON SCHEDULE. AND THAT'S A THAT'S A HARSH DEGREE OF SELF-REFLECTION. I THINK THAT'S REQUIRED. AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE GET THAT. WE COULD JUST SO BUT I'M OPEN TO IT. LET US THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE CAN HAVE THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO I REALLY THINK, FOCUSING ON LESSONS LEARNED. WHAT'S THIS RIGHT STRUCTURE THAT WE NEED AT THE BOARD, COMMUNICATIONS WITH COUNCIL, WHAT WE NEED FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO ENSURE THAT WE STAY ON TRACK? I MEAN, THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN STRATEGIZE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AND PERHAPS BRING YOU SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF HOW TO DO THAT. MAYBE THAT'S HELPFUL. LET'S JUST CALL IT A POSTMORTEM.

YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S I LIKE LESSONS LEARNED. BUT POST MORTEM I UNDERSTAND. AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND SEE. WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO HOW TO BRING SOME THINGS FORWARD THAT MAKE SENSE MOVING FORWARD. ABSOLUTELY. MAYOR I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS CAN BE HEARD. HE HAD SOME COMMENTS, IF NOT THAT, MAYBE YOU OR I COULD KIND OF JUST READ INTO THE RECORD A LITTLE BIT. COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS, CAN YOU HEAR US? IMMEDIATELY? KIND OF PASSIONATE IN THE MANNER ON, BUT YOU CALL THE MEMBER IN THE AUDIENCE FOR A MOMENT. I THINK THE COMMENTS THAT HE RELAYED TO ME WAS. NOT YEAH, BASICALLY, DITTO. HE HAD THE SAME KIND OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT FOR WEEKS TO GO TO GET WATER DELIVERED, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE A FOCUS. WAS THE COMMENT THAT HE HAD RELAYED TO ME THAT HE WANTED TO JUST HAVE FOR THE COUNCIL.

I'M SORRY, WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES GETTING HIM ONLINE. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR, THAT'S ALL WE HAD FOR THE ORAL UPDATE. IF YOU'RE READY TO GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM OR IF YOU NEED TO, WE CAN LET THESE GUYS GO. SO TAKE FIVE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. FIVE FIVE MINUTES. AND TH

[3) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding options on changes to the City's single-member City Council district boundaries from Bickerstaff Heath Delgado Acosta LLP.]

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NO. AND I'VE NOTICED IT BEFORE. LOOKING AT THE MAP I JUST ASSUMED THE ROAD MADE A JOG THERE, BUT SO. SO THE RED LINE IS THE NEW BOUNDARY. AND THEN WHAT'S REMAINING? IF WE HAD AN ABILITY TO POINT ON THIS WITH THE MOUSE, THE RED LINE IS EXISTING. AND THEN THE NEW AREA IS SHADED. THAT SAME COLOR. IS THAT MAYOR. IS THAT KIND OF ADDRESSING YOUR QUESTION WHETHER THOSE THAT THAT WHAT'S IN THAT AREA? WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S NOT HERE. AND SO I'M OUT OF GOODWILL. I'M I'M JUST OH DOWN THERE OKAY. SORRY. YOU SEE IT LOOKS LIKE A DOUBLE RED LINE.

I CAN'T I CAN'T TELL WHAT DISTRICT THAT SECTION IS IN. IS IT CHANGING DISTRICTS OR IS IT, IS IT STAYING IN DISTRICT TWO RIGHT HERE. YES. THAT LITTLE BLUE PART THERE. THAT IS A NO NO LEFT, LEFT, LEFT OLD STAGECOACH. THE WESTERN PART OF THE BLUE BOUNDARY RIGHT THERE. OH. DOWN THE LINE BELOW. DOWN THERE. RIGHT THERE. WHAT IS THAT. CAN WE GET ZOOMED IN ON THAT? HOLD ON. SHERRY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL THE MAP UP I THINK. YEAH SHE'S WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

OH SORRY. I THOUGHT WE WERE. I THINK THAT'S AS MUCH AS WE CAN ZOOM HERE. OKAY, WELL, IF Y'ALL HAVE OTHER DISCUSSIONS, IF SHE'S GETTING THAT PULLED UP, WE CAN CONTINUE THE DIALOG ON ANY OTHER ISSUES OR ITEMS THAT YOU WANT. AM I SPECULATION IS IT'S A CONNECTION POINT. THAT'S THAT.

IT'S JUST A ROAD THAT'S I THINK AND THE PROPERTY ON EITHER SIDE IS IN THE ETJ. YEAH. BUT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER THAT REPRESENTS THAT DISTRICT LIVES RIGHT THERE. YEAH. WE KNOW WHERE HE LIVES.

HE'S HE'S PLOTTED ON THE MAP. OKAY. SO IS THAT THE CONCERN. AND THAT'S NOT I'M JUST WANTING TO SEE IT FOR MYSELF. I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT HE'S HIS DISTRICT IS NOT CHANGING. BUT EVERY TIME I SEE THAT MAP, IT LOOKS LIKE IT GOT LOOPED INTO DISTRICT FOUR. AND I JUST WANT TO SEE EVIDENCE THAT IT DIDN'T. I'M. AND. I THINK THAT WILL. GET THE REALLY BIG MAP. WE'LL DO THIS MANUALLY.

THAT'S HOW WE DID IT IN THE OLD DAYS. SPOTTED RIGHT HERE. IT'S ON THIS MAP. HERE IS THAT IS A THAT IS A DISTRICT FOR THIS PIECE. THAT LITTLE ROAD IS DISTRICT FOUR. IT'S JUST A ROAD.

YEAH. HIS HIS HOUSE IS HERE. YEAH. HE'S PLOTTED OKAY. AMAZING. THANK YOU AMY. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO SEE THAT. YEAH. NO, HE WAS SAFELY IN. I MEAN, HE'S RIGHT ON THE VERY, VERY EDGE. OKAY, I THINK I SAID THAT AT THE VERY FIRST MEETING THAT HE LIVES IN THE VERY, VERY EDGE. OKAY. I WOULD BE CURIOUS WHAT TO. I THINK WE'VE GOT TOBIAS NOW. CAN WE HEAR YOU? TOBY'S. NOTHING YET. NO. WAS HE MUTED. YOU MIGHT BE MUTED ON YOUR PHONE. KEEP KEEP GIVING US THE TESTING. KEEP WORKING ON IT. ALL RIGHT I'LL JUST CAN I ASK A

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DIDN'T YOU DO THE NUMBERS BY THAT AS WELL? NO, NO, WE DO THE NUMBERS BY TOTAL POPULATION AND THEN BY VOTING AGE POPULATION. AND THEN I THINK YOU HAD DID YOU HAVE A COLUMN WHERE YOU DID REGISTERED VOTERS? AND THEN YOU ALSO SUBSECTION IT INTO SPANISH SURNAME REGISTERED VOTERS? I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE US MORE DATA ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF EVERY DISTRICT. SO, MAYOR, I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS ON SPEAKER PHONE, AND I JUST KIND OF TYPE THEM INTO THE DROP IT DOWN. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IF WE CAN. WELL, YEAH. SO, MICHAEL, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD. YOU'RE ON SPEAKER NOW. YES. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU EVERYBODY I'M SORRY IF I'M NOT THERE. HAD SURGERY AND ALL THAT. ANYHOW, I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS, MAYOR, WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING AT THAT MAP FOR DISTRICT TWO IN DISTRICT FOUR. THEY THEY SHOWED US THE MAP. IT'S SURE THAT THAT THAT LINE IS STILL SUPPORTED BY THAT DISTRICT MEMBER. YES. AND IT IS THEY THEY BROUGHT UP A BIG MAP TO PROVE IT. SO I'M COMFORTABLE NOW I THINK I THINK OKAY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT I HAD CONCERNS ON. AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO DISTRICT SIX I'M OKAY. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT SO FAR. OKAY. I WILL SAY FOR AS A POINT FOR DISCUSSION. WELL, ACTUALLY, IF Y'ALL WANT TO CONTINUE WITH US, I JUST HAVE SOME THINGS TO FOR US TO THINK ABOUT. NOT ACTUALLY SUGGESTING ANY CHANGES, BUT. IF WE'RE STILL IF WE'RE STILL WAITING, YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET HER. IT'S JUST MORE ON A PHILOSOPHICAL SCALE. THE REASON SO WHEN THE DISTRICTS WERE INITIALLY ALIGNED THE WAY THAT THEY ARE, AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE RED LINE HERE, WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT THE DISTRICT SIX ACTUALLY GOES INTO WESTERN KYLE AND CONNECTS SOME OF THE SILVERADO OR SPRING BRANCH. I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHICH ONE THAT IS. BRANCH.

SPRING BRANCH. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT? OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. AND THE REASON THEY DID THAT WHEN THEY CREATED THESE DISTRICTS AND THE REASON DISTRICT TWO GOES EAST, CROSSES I-35 AS WELL, WAS ACTUALLY INTENTIONAL TO TRY TO AVOID HAVING AN AN EAST WEST NARRATIVE ON THE DAIS TO FORCE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CAMPAIGN ON BOTH SIDES OF I-35 AND BE ELECTED FROM THOSE BODIES. THAT THE THINKING WAS THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE A MORE ROUNDED COUNCIL MEMBER, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE COUNCIL MEMBER LIVES, THE DISTRICT MAKE UP ITSELF WOULD WOULD REQUIRE BOTH SIDES OF I-35 TO BE REPRESENTED. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT TOPIC IN GENERAL. THIS THE NEW BOUNDARIES AS I READ THEM KIND OF GO AWAY FROM THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO TOBIAS WOULD LOSE SPRING BRANCH OR COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX, WE SHOULD SAY, WOULD LOSE SPRING BRANCH. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF Y'ALL THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD TRY TO MAINTAIN MAINTAIN THAT OR IF WE'RE OKAY WITH JUST GOING WITH A MORE, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT SIX IS PRIMARILY EAST IN TERMS OF THE RESIDENCES. AND IF THAT'S IF THAT'S OKAY OR NOT. YEAH. I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT SPRING BRANCH NEEDED TO BE ALL OF SPRING BRANCH NEEDED TO BE PART OF DISTRICT FOUR BECAUSE IT IT CUTS THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN HALF THE WAY IT IS. OKAY. AND THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. SO PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHO'S THEIR REP. THAT IS VERY TRUE. WELL, IS THE IF WE'RE IS THE SOLUTION THEN TO CUT TO PUT ALL OF SPRING BRANCH IN DISTRICT FOUR. OR COULD IT BE TO PUT ALL OF SPRING BRANCH IN DISTRICT SIX? THAT'S SORT OF THE QUESTION I'M TRYING TO ASK. AND THEN MAYBE RECONFIGURE IN SOME OTHER WAY THAT DOESN'T MAKE DISTRICT SIX SO PREDOMINANTLY EAST. IT IT STILL IS. I MEAN, EVEN IF YOU PUT THAT BACK INTO DISTRICT DISTRICT FOUR, IT STILL IS PREDOMINANTLY EAST. I MEAN, IT JUST IS. I DON'T SEE ANY WAY TO UNLESS WE GO LIKE TO THE NORTH.

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SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO FOUR AND SIX. I THINK THAT'S JUST THEIR SOFTWARE. YEAH OKAY. SO THREE STILL HAS A SIGNIFICANT AREA THAT IS WEST OF 35. THAT IS A DEVELOPING AREA. I THINK THAT THAT WILL FILL IN AND MAKE THOSE POPULATIONS SIMILAR. IT'S MOSTLY ALL COMMERCIAL THOUGH. THAT'S IN DISTRICT SIX GOING IN UP THERE. YEAH. BUT THE WELL FOR EXAMPLE, THE CARAWAY TRACT WILL BE A LOT OF APARTMENTS TOO. SO ENOUGH TO BALANCE THE POPULATIONS. WELL IN THE CARAWAY TRACK ON THE EAST SIDE OF I-35. IT IS, BUT I MEAN, IT BALANCES THAT DISTRICT. POPULATION WISE. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT MAKES SENSE. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THIS WAY. YOU'RE NOT CUTTING OUT HALF OF IT. IT'S JUST BASICALLY BIFURCATED ON THE RAIL LINE. IT IS. EXACTLY. WOULD THERE WOULD THERE BE ANY INTEREST IN MAKING THE BOUNDARY 1626 INSTEAD? AND THAT THAT THAT MAKES THAT SUCH THAT THE, YOU KNOW, AREA SIX AND AREA TEN IN PLUM CREEK AS WELL AS THE NORTH POINT DEVELOPMENTS AND ALL OF THAT INDUSTRIAL WOULD BE WITHIN THE DISTRICT OF DISTRICT SIX, BUT ALSO AREA SIX IS SCHEDULED, YOU KNOW, SLATED TO HAVE A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATIONS IN THE FUTURE.

AND I JUST I'M JUST REALLY TRYING TO EXPLORE THE QUESTION OF IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE THINK STRATEGICALLY LONG TERM MAKES SENSE TO GET MORE OF DISTRICT SIX INTO THE PLUM CREEK, INTO THOSE PARTICULAR ZONES. YOU KNOW, I'M I'M OKAY WITH IT BEING A VARIETY OF WAYS.

I'M JUST YEAH, I THINK IT'S WORTH HAVING A DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT YOUR BOUNDARIES TOO MUCH. YEAH. THERE'S VERY, VERY LITTLE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S IN DISTRICT FOUR THAT IS ABOVE THE NORTH OF 1626. RIGHT. BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT INCENTIVIZES DISTRICT SIX TO, TO RECOGNIZE THE PLUM CREEK NORTH AREAS SIX AND TEN AND THAT AREA AS SOMETHING THAT IS THEIR, THEIR, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES AS WELL, SO THAT THERE'S SOME, SOME INCENTIVE TO, TO, TO VIEW THAT AND THOSE PROJECTS AS BEING WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THEIR DISTRICT. ESSENTIALLY PLUM CREEK NORTH IS. YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT PLUM CREEK NORTH IS IN THOSE BOUNDARIES. IT IS CROSSING. IT'S BETWEEN COLORS. CROSSING, CROSSING IN 1626. SO JUST TO KEEP A PUBLIC RECORD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, CHERRIES MADE THE MOVE TO CHANGE THE BOUNDARY OVER TO 1626 FOR DISTRICT. WHAT SHOULD BE DISTRICT TWO. IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE DEVIATION AT ALL AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO CHANGE THE NUMBERS. YEAH.

THERE'S NOT THERE'S NO ONE WHO LIVES IN THOSE AREAS. SO YEAH. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. IT PUTS OCC IN DISTRICT SIX. I'M A LAWYER. SO WHAT'S THAT? I'M OCC'S GENERAL COUNSEL.

DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK THEM WHERE THEY WANT TO BE? I DON'T THINK THEY CARE. THEY DON'T VOTE. IT'S FINE. MAYOR, I WOULD SAY THAT IT DOES. FROM A GEOGRAPHIC VIEW OF THE MAPS. IT DOES HELP TO BLEND WHERE YOU CAN. AND THAT 1626 WOULD MAKE SENSE. IT DOES CREATE THAT INCENTIVE BECAUSE I CAN SPEAK IN DISTRICT TWO, THE DOWNTOWN BEING PART OF DISTRICT TWO, THERE IS AN INCENTIVE THERE THAT THAT'S A BELONGING OF THE DISTRICT. THEN WHAT IF WE WHAT IF WE MOVED DISTRICT IF WE EXPANDED DISTRICT FOUR INTO THE COMMERCIAL AREAS WHERE IT WHERE DISTRICT SIX GOES WAY DOWN WEST OF I-35? MAYBE WE MAKE ALL OF THAT DISTRICT FOUR UP TO. WE COULD START WITH MARKETPLACE AND MAYBE SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. SO AND BUT YOU COULD. DOESN'T THAT MAKE DISTRICT FOUR

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YEAH. BECAUSE DISTRICT FOUR ALREADY HAS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE RAIL LINE WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION THERE. SO REALLY EVERYTHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS COMMERCIAL. IT'S PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL. WELL, I KIND OF AGREE WITH WOULD BE THERE AND THE THAT SENIOR COMPLEX ACROSS FROM TARGET IS THERE. SO THERE'S SOME THERE'LL BE SOME COMMERCIAL IN THAT AREA I MEAN RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA. I AGREE WITH ZUNIGA THAT I LIKE THE IDEA OF ALL THREE DISTRICTS SHARING IN THE DOWNTOWN. THAT IS A GOOD POINT. I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE WERE GOING TO ADD SO MUCH COMMERCIAL TO DISTRICT SIX, BASICALLY DISTRICT SIX HAS ALL THE COMMERCIAL OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN THAT WE HAVE. SO IT'S IN TERMS OF THE COMMERCIAL VALUATION OF THE CITY, IF WE MOVE IT TO 1626, THEN I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A LOT OF PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT IS WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES. SO I WAS THINKING, WELL, WE HAVE THIS THAT PARTICULAR AREA THAT WAS JUST HIGHLIGHTED RIGHT THERE. WE COULD MAKE THAT DISTRICT FOUR NOT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ADD BACK SOME COMMERCIAL VALUE TO DISTRICT FOUR. YEAH. THAT, THAT BUT IT TAKES AWAY DISTRICT SIX TOUCH OF DOWNTOWN. BUT THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY IN TERMS OF WHAT DISTRICT SIX HAS IN THE ACTUAL DOWNTOWN, THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH. DISTRICT FOUR AND DISTRICT TWO HAVE THE MAJORITY OF IT. THEN THEY'RE LITTLE SOUTHERN PIECE. TOBIAS, WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE KIND OF WORKING ON HERE? HANG ON A SECOND. OH, HERE WE GO. GOTCHA. YEAH. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, I KIND OF AGREE ON ON THAT. SO IF YOU CAN HEAR ME. YES, WE CAN. WE CAN HEAR YOU. WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO MAYBE MAKE IT MORE, MORE ROBUST TO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A LINE OF HAVING DISTRICT FOUR WITH 16, 26 MORE TO THE WEST. YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EQUAL COMMERCIAL GROWTH IN EACH DISTRICT. BUT I GUESS WE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT DOCTOR HARRIS IS SAYING ABOUT POPULATION. I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE. WE'LL FIND OUT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH. I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING MORE COMMERCIAL IN MY DISTRICT. VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL IN MY DISTRICT. WE EVEN HAVE TROUBLE FINDING A PLACE TO HAVE COFFEE. THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT. COUNCIL.

IF YOU WANT, WE CAN. WE CAN MAKE THAT MOVE AND SEE WHAT IT DOES. WELL, HOLD ON FOR A SECOND. I THINK MICHAEL WAS TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO MANAGE. MICHAEL. GO AHEAD. SO, YEAH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLARIFY, BECAUSE I KNOW AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO CONTINUE TO GROW POPULATION, IT'S GOING TO GROW MORE UP NORTH. AND MORE TO THE EAST AS WELL. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT WHICH BOUNDARY LINES, IN MY OPINION, ARE WE GOING TO USE THE RAILROAD? ARE WE GOING TO USE 1626? BUT AS FAR AS SILVERADO AND THAT, I THINK IT SHOULD ALL BE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ONE DISTRICT. SO THAT WAY THERE'S NO CONFUSION. YEAH. WELL BEFORE WE BEFORE WE WELL I SAY LET'S LOOK AT THAT GOING TO DISTRICT FOUR.

BUT THEN ALSO I THINK I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO GET MORE COMMERCIAL IN DISTRICT TWO. LIKE IS THERE A WAY TO PUSH DISTRICT TWO UP INTO SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL ZONES UP THERE? MAYBE. AND WE MAY JUST GET SO FAR OUT OF WHACK THAT IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE. BUT.

THANK. UP TO 15%. OH, BECAUSE FOUR IS ALREADY. YEAH, OKAY, I DID THE MATH BACKWARDS UP HERE.

DISTRICT TWO DOWN HERE. SO MOVING EVERYTHING SOUTH OF 1626 DOES PUT US WAY OVER THE DEVIATION POPULATION WISE. SO YOU WOULD NEED TO IF WE DID THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO ADD TO POPULATION. YOU NEED TO TAKE POPULATION AWAY FROM DISTRICT FOUR. YES. OKAY. AND IF THE

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THAT'S USING BURLESON AS A BOUNDARY. OF COURSE THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ADD TO WELL BUT THAT WENT TO DISTRICT SIX. MARK WAS SAYING DISTRICT TWO I MEANT SIX. YOU MEANT SIX. OH OKAY OKAY TOBIAS DISTRICT. YES. YEAH. YEAH THAT WOULD ADD SOME A LITTLE BIT OF POPULATION. THERE WOULDN'T BE A I WOULDN'T MIND DOING THAT. BUT HE MICHAEL HAD A GOOD POINT IN THAT THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECTED FOR HIS DISTRICT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ONLINE YET. ALTHOUGH I THINK YOU TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU WERE DOING THE MAPS. WE WERE TRYING TO. BUT JUST ON THIS CONVERSATION, IT'S THAT BLOCK RIGHT THERE HAS 384 PEOPLE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A HIGH DENSITY. IT'S A BIG MIXED USE PROJECT. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY IT SEEMS TO BE SOME SORT OF HIGH DENSITY PROJECT THERE. SO MAYBE THAT WELL, WE'VE ENTITLED A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY ALONG MARKETPLACE BACK THERE. IN FACT, THERE'S WHERE YOU SHOW ZERO BEHIND CALL CENTER DRIVE AND CITY LIGHTS DRIVE THAT IF YOU SEE THERE'S LIKE 3 OR 4 ZEROS THERE, IT'S SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM RIGHT UP ONE DOWN ONE. YEAH. UP THERE. BUT I'M SAYING SPECIFICALLY THE ONE ABOVE THAT.

YEAH. THAT RIGHT THERE I THINK WE GOT IT. BUT YES THAT THAT'S HAVING THEIR CONVERSATION. THAT SECTION IS ENTITLED FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS AS WELL. SO AND THE ONE BELOW CITY LIGHTS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING. YEAH. EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST HIGHLIGHTED IS MUCH MORE THAN 384 SOULS. BUT RIGHT NOW USING THE DATA WE HAVE TO USE, IT'S A ZERO. YEAH. BUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THIRD PLACE. YOU'RE SAYING THAT. BUT BY ADDING THAT SPACE. BUT IT IS IT IS A IT IS A FUTURE MIXED USE DISTRICT THAT PLUM CREEK JUST DOES NOT HAVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OR I'M SORRY, DISTRICT FOUR DOESN'T HAVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BRICK AND MORTAR DISTRICT, IT MAKES THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP. IT MAKES THE DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE THEIR SINGULAR COMMERCIAL AREA OF FOCUS IS BRICK AND MORTAR. IT'S KIND OF THE POINT. WHEREAS EVERYONE SORT OF THE DISTRICTS HAVE THEIR OWN PARTICULAR FLAVOR OF COMMERCIAL. AND I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF HOW DO WE HOW DO WE CHANGE IT UP SO THAT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER HAS MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL SPACES THAT THEY HAVE, THAT THEY FEEL VESTED IN AND THEIR SUCCESS SO THAT IT DOESN'T? SO WE'RE NOT PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER, BUT THAT WE'RE INCENTIVES. OUR INCENTIVES ARE ALIGNED. I UNDERSTAND WHY I WOULD NOT MIND HAVING MORE COMMERCIAL. THAT'S THAT'S TRUE.

WELL, THE THING IS THAT SO THOSE PROPOSALS WITH THIS COUNCIL, ALL OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THAT HIGHLIGHTED SECTION ARE ALL MIXED USE. SO THEY ARE APARTMENTS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, A LOT OF GROUND FLOOR. I MEAN, YEAH, THERE'S WAYS TO SHIFT LIKE THAT.

YEAH. LIKE I SAID, I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING BUT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE. YEAH. SO GO AHEAD. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE BLOCK WITH CURRENTLY HAS A LOT OF POPULATION BACK INTO DISTRICT.

SIX. THAT'S GOING TO BE CRAZY. YEAH I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY CLEAN LINE. NO WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME ADJUSTING AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S ZEROS THERE. IT'S YOU KNOW BUT AS YOU'RE SAYING IN THE FUTURE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A ZERO. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT. YEAH. GOING TO BE A ZERO. AND THE BLOCKS AS YOU CAN SEE I THINK I MENTIONED IN ONE OF MY EARLIER PRESENTATIONS, SOMETIMES THE BLOCKS ARE JUST WEIRDLY SHAPED BECAUSE THAT THAT BLOCK WITH ALL THE POPULATION IS REALLY LONG. BUT I'M ASSUMING THE POPULATION IS IN A DISCRETE SECTION OF IT AND THE REST OF

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I'M KIND OF LIKE THAT MAP. YEAH, I LIKE FOR DISTRICT FOUR I LIKE I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT MAP. I DO LIKE HAVING THE NEIGHBORHOODS BE UNIFIED. I DO THINK THEY'RE BETWEEN 2 AND 6 AT THE BOTTOM TO THE SOUTH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT SPLITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN 2 AND 6 HAS ALWAYS BEEN CONFUSING BECAUSE SIX HAS ALL OF STEEPLECHASE PARK, BUT I THINK DISTRICT TWO IS ALWAYS SORT OF FELT LIKE STEEPLECHASE PARK WAS A PART OF THEIR DISTRICT. AS LONG AS SIX STAYS WHERE IT IS, WE CAN'T REALLY ADJUST FOR VERY MUCH ABOUT SIX HERE. THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH. I MEAN, YOU'RE CLOSER TO THAT AREA IN DISTRICT TWO THAN, YOU KNOW, SIX, SINCE WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDING LIKE KENSINGTON, I MEAN, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO PUT THAT STEEPLECHASE PARK WHOLLY IN DISTRICT TWO. THAT WOULD. COULD WE LOOK AT THAT, SIR? YEAH. IF YOU COULD GIVE THAT AREA TO WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO START PLAYING THAT GAME, BECAUSE HE HAS A LOT OF POPULATION THERE. YEAH. SEE HOW ODDLY SHAPED THAT BLOCK IS THAT YOU JUST HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW. NOW THAT'S ALL ONE CENSUS BLOCK FOR REASONS DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

LIKE COMPLETELY WRAPS AROUND THE OTHER PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT YELLOW BLOCK ALL HAS TO STAY TOGETHER THEN. YEAH, RIGHT. SO THAT 583 IN THAT YELLOW BLOCK IS INCLUDING TWO STEP DEVELOPMENT. NO, IT'S NOT PART OF IT, BUT IT SHOULD BE I MEAN IT'S DRAWN. YEAH. IT'S DRAWN FOR THAT. SO WE CAN. MOVE THAT TO TWO I GUESS THE ZEROS MOVE THAT TO SIX THAT ARE IN DISTRICT TWO.

THOSE AREN'T ZEROS EITHER. THAT'S I MOVE IT. YEAH THAT'S MULTIFAMILY IN THE TWO STEP PROJECT. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT'S. THERE. SO GOOD. YEAH. SEE WE CAN'T ISOLATE THOSE. SO THOSE BLOCKS HAVE TO GO TO. AND THEN WE HAVE TO GIVE UP SOME FROM DISTRICT SIX. AND WE COULD DO THAT OVER. IT'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGH. ALONG THE HIGHWAY THERE BETWEEN THE HIGHWAY AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS. SO IT BRINGS DISTRICT SIX MORE INTO THE DOWNTOWN. YEAH. WHAT ABOUT IF WE MOVE THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE NARROW STRIP INTO FOUR? INTO FOUR, 4 OR 6? YOU GUYS TELL ME, WHERE WOULD YOU WANT THAT TO MOVE TO? WELL, IT'S IN FOUR RIGHT NOW. OR SOME OF IT IS. YEAH. I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT DISCRETE SECTION THERE. THAT MAKES IT WORSE. BUT THEN WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS. THE THING TO DO. CENTER STREET IS A GOOD DIVIDER DOWN THERE. YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO MESS WITH THAT. THAT'S BIFURCATES THE HOMETOWN. BASICALLY WE NEED TO TAKE SOME AWAY FROM TWO AND ADD IT TO. I'M SORRY, SIX. SO ANNOYING. WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME AWAY FROM FOUR AND MOVE IT TO TWO. YEAH. SO THAT MOVE THERE TO ADD THAT TO FOUR WASN'T THE RIGHT THING. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. YEAH. IT'S LIKE LEAVE THAT IN IN SIX. BUT TAKE BUT ADD. STEEPLECHASE TO ADD STEEPLECHASE TO TWO. RIGHT. THAT'S A WEIRD LOOK ON THAT STEEPLECHASE PART BETWEEN 2 AND 6. IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY DEFINED. YEAH. LIKE EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THAT RED LINE COULD GO TO TWO. THAT RED LINE IS THE STEEPLECHASE THE ONE THAT NAVIGATES THROUGH STEEPLECHASE.

YEAH. THAT'S THE CREEK. THE CREEK. YEAH. GO AHEAD MICHAEL, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES. GO

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BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO I GUESS MY I'M LOOKING AT KEEPING NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER INCLUDING PARKS. SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT. SO LET'S MAKE STEEPLECHASE THE DIVIDER. YEAH THAT DOESN'T WORK. YOU HAVE A CONFUSION LATER ON. I THINK WHENEVER THERE IS AN ISSUE, YOU'D HAVE TO REACH OUT TO SPECIFIC COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. HOW DOES THAT WORK RIGHT THERE? I LIKE THAT STEEPLECHASE PARK DIVIDING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. YEAH, THAT REALLY MESSES THE CREEK AND DISTRICT TWO. THAT REALLY MESSES THE DEVIATION UP. BUT WE CAN ADJUST THAT BY MOVING ELSEWHERE.

SO WE CAN MOVE SIX DOWN IN THE TWO KIND OF OVER ON THIS SIDE OF THAT. RIGHT. HALF YOUR LIFE.

WELL IT'S PRETTY DENSE IN THAT AREA. IT ALSO BY BY PUSHING TWO UP FURTHER IT MAKES IT LESS THAT DISTRICT TWO IS JUST FOCUSED ON THE 150 AND GIVES THEM A LITTLE MORE OF A CENTRAL CITY OF, YOU KNOW, VIEWPOINT. IF YOU ADD IF YOU ADDED EVEN ADDED MORE TO DISTRICT TWO, LIKE THE 481.

BLOCK AND THEN AND THEN MOVED DISTRICT SIX FURTHER DOWN THE EAST WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE 394 AND THEN YOU'VE GOT GRISTMILL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BUNTON THERE'S A LOT OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THERE. YOU COULD GET A LOT MORE OF DISTRICT SIX NUMBERS PUMPED UP WITH THAT WITH THAT SECTION AND THEN PUSH. IT'S SORT OF LIKE, YEAH, LIKE THIS. SO YOU'RE PUSHING DISTRICT TWO UP INTO DISTRICT SIX ALONG I-35. THAT'S TRUE, MAYOR, BECAUSE I WAS ALWAYS ASSUMING. BUNTON IS OUR DIVIDER. PRETTY MUCH. RIGHT. IT CURRENTLY IS. BUT THIS THIS WOULD CHANGE. LAYMON WAS ALWAYS IN DISTRICT SIX. BUT ACCORDING TO THIS MAP. DISTRICT TWO. LAYMAN. YEAH. AND CAN YOU CAN YOU GO. YEAH. THE TEN AS WELL. YEAH. YEAH. THAT GETS US BACK INTO BALANCE WITH WHAT WAS JUST DONE. THERE'S ONE MORE TO GRAB THERE AT THE END. YEAH. WITH THAT NUMBER ONE IS RIGHT NOW.

YEAH. THAT ONE THAT'S NOT OKAY. MAKE SURE IT'S NOT SOMEBODY'S HOUSE. YEAH. STILL GOOD. SO THAT ACTUALLY WORKS FROM A NUMBERS PERSPECTIVE. SO YOU'RE PUSHING DISTRICT SIX TO THE WEST. UP NORTH YOU'RE PUSHING DISTRICT FOUR TO THE EAST. IN THE MIDDLE YOU'RE PUSHING DISTRICT TWO NORTH CENTRAL, AND YOU'RE PUSHING DISTRICT SIX SOUTH AND EAST A LITTLE BIT. SO EVERYBODY'S SORT OF SHIFTING A LITTLE. IT'S KIND OF A IT KEEPS THE SPIRIT OF, OF, OF HAVING AN EAST WEST DISTRICT SIX IS THINKING ABOUT BOTH SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY. DISTRICT TWO IS THINKING ABOUT BOTH SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY. BUT DISTRICT TWO ALSO IS NOW BEING PULLED FURTHER NORTH ALL THE WAY TO STEEPLECHASE AND GETS MORE COMMERCIAL ALONG I-35. I STILL THINK DISTRICT SIX WILL HAVE THE LION'S SHARE OF THE COMMERCIAL, BUT. MAYBE THAT'S A LITTLE MORE BALANCED. WHICH DISTRICT WILL HAVE THE LION'S SHARE? SIX OF COMMERCIAL. IT HAS EVERYTHING WEST OF OR EAST OF 16, 26 AND TWO THIRDS OF THE INTERSTATE. RIGHT? THAT IT DOESN'T SHOW IT WITH ANYTHING. SIX. IT DOESN'T SHOW 4 OR 6. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SIX. I'M GETTING CONFUSED.

NEVER MIND. NEVER MIND. THE WAY THEY NUMBERED THEM. ONE, TWO AND THREE WAS THROWING ME OFF. IT'S A IT'S A PROBLEM WITH THE SOFTWARE. IT HAS TO HAVE SEQUENTIAL NUMBERS. AND SINCE YOU GUYS DO EVENS IT DOESN'T WORK RIGHT. I AGREE IT'S NOT IDEAL. I STILL WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO GET MORE COMMERCIAL INTO DISTRICT FOUR. BUT I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF TAKING IT FROM UP NORTH. I LIKE SIX GOING TO 1626. I JUST WISH SIX DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH. BASICALLY SOUTH OF 1626. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT ON UNTIL THE NEXT CENSUS, BECAUSE THEN WE'LL HAVE POP KIND OF IN TWO STEP AND IN OTHER STUFF COMING IN THAT MAYBE WE COULD ADJUST, BUT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED MULTIPLE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN PRETTY MUCH IN EVERYONE'S DISTRICT THAT AREN'T ACCOUNTED FOR HERE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY GO OFF. BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE

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SO THAT THAT MAP WORKS. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE ADD TO DISTRICT TWO FROM THIS. LIKE IS THAT WOULD THAT HELP OR WOULD THAT PUT US OUT OF COMPLIANCE. WE'RE TAKING FROM FOUR IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO YOU NEED TO TAKE FROM 4 TO 4. YEAH THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY. FOUR IS THE ONE THAT'S TOO BIG. YOU CAN SEE IT'S LIKE FIVE OVER WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS A LITTLE UNDER. YEAH. IT'S JUST IT'S A YOU TOOK FROM THE BOTTOM AND TOOK SOME OF TWO IN THE FLOOR TO GET THERE. WELL I WAS TRYING I WAS TRYING TO ADD ALONG I-35 FOR TWO. SO FOR FOUR, IF YOU TAKE MUCH MORE OF THAT DOWNTOWN AREA DEVIATION, IF YOU TAKE MUCH MORE OF THAT DOWNTOWN AREA OFF OF FOUR, THAT CHANGES THE MINORITY OR THE HISPANIC POPULATION IN FOUR, WHICH IS ALREADY REALLY LOW. IT MAKES IT. WE NEED TO. YEAH. RIGHT NOW WE STILL HAVE TWO STRONG HISPANIC DISTRICTS, BUT DISTRICT FOUR IS GENERALLY BECOMING LESS THAN PLAN A, BUT IT IS. NOT BY MUCH, THOUGH IT WAS 39.07 IN PLAN A, AND IT'S 38.47 SO. IS THERE A WAY TO PUT MORE DISTRICT TWO FURTHER UP I-35 SO THAT INSTEAD OF IT RUNNING ALONG FILOMENA LIKE IT RUNS, THAT THERE'S NO

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ALL RIGHT. A LITTLE BIT OVER. SO WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO EITHER LOSE SOME MORE OF FOUR OR PUT SOME MORE INTO. IS THERE MORE TO ADD. CAN YOU GO DOWN. CAN YOU PAN FURTHER SOUTH. IS THERE ANYTHING CONNECTING FURTHER SOUTH THAT WE WOULD WANT TO KNOW? THEY DON'T CONNECT DOWN THERE. WELL CAN YOU CAN YOU JUST PAN PAN SOUTH SO WE CAN SEE THE BOTTOM OKAY. KEEP GOING. YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT ABOUT LIKE THAT 541 THERE. WHAT IS THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO THE WHAT IS THE LINE THAT'S SEPARATING TWO AND SIX THERE. THAT IS THAT A ROAD IN A CENSUS BLOCK. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOLLOWING A RIVER. HONESTLY. OR A CREEK INSTEAD OF. THAT. 1201 THAT'S ONE BLOCK. OH, IT'S SUCH A TERRIBLE DISTRICT. THAT PUTS ME IN DISTRICT SIX. NOW THAT'S THAT. THAT GOES INTO WATER LEAF. YOU'RE RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN'T THAT'S THAT'S INSANE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S. ALL RIGHT. WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DO THAT ONE. NO. Y'ALL WANT ME OUT, BUT Y'ALL WANT ME OUT. WE WENT TOO FAR. THE CENSUS GEOGRAPHY DOES NOT WORK FOR US DOWN THERE. BUT YOU'RE AT LARGE. OH. THAT'S TRUE. YOU MAY HAVE ASPIRATIONS, THOUGH. EVERYBODY WANTS A SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT BACKUP PLAN. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I LIKE THAT AS IT CURRENTLY IS, BUT I WOULD. YOU KNOW, I WISH THAT THERE WAS A WAY. OH, WE NEED TO ADD MORE. THE ZEROS OF THOSE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS INTO DISTRICT FOUR. SO 16, 26 BLOCKS SOUTH. YEAH. THOSE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. REALIZING THAT NEXT TIME THAT'S GOING TO PUT FOUR AWAY OVER AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST BACK.

NOT IF IT MAY OR MAY NOT I MEAN WELL YOU SAID THERE'S SOME HIGH DENSITY ALREADY GOING IN THERE.

YES. BUT THERE'S ALSO HIGH DENSITY GOING INTO OTHER AREAS THAT ARE MARKED ZERO ALL OVER THIS THING. I'VE PROBABLY SEEN SIX OF THEM SO FAR. YEAH, BUT NONE OF THEM ARE, YOU KNOW, SURE THINGS, THEY'RE JUST ENTITLEMENTS. I LIKE THAT. WHAT IS THE CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THE.

YEAH. BASICALLY RIGHT THERE WHERE YOUR CURSOR IS EXCEPT TO THE RIGHT A LITTLE WHERE THE NEW BOUNDARIES IN THERE. SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE BOUNDARY ON MARKETPLACE ALONG MARKETPLACE.

YEAH. RIGHT THERE. WHAT IS THE WHAT ARE THE ROAD SITUATIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO MARKETPLACE WE SHOULD ADD THAT THE LEFT ZERO ALONG MARKETPLACE TO DISTRICT FOUR. IT'S CURRENTLY IN SIX OKAY. RIGHT THERE. THAT SHOULD GO TO DISTRICT FOUR. OOPS. ALMOST. IN A LITTLE GOOD THING.

AND WHAT IF WE ADDED THE 39 SO THAT WE MADE BURLESON THE HARD BOUNDARY. IT SHOULD STILL WORK.

YEAH IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER TO TEN BUT WE'RE STILL THERE. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THAT LEFT. THERE'S TWO ZEROS. IT MAKES A LITTLE WEIRD. CAN YOU ZOOM ALL THE WAY IN TO THOSE TWO SMALL ZEROS TO THE RIGHT OF THE 39? YOU BACK WHERE YOU WERE, WHERE WE WERE JUST ADJUSTING.

THERE'S A 39 NUMBER, AND THEN THERE'S TWO ZEROS DIRECTLY TO THE RIGHT OF IT ALONG I-35. CAN YOU ZOOM IN EVEN FURTHER ON THOSE TWO? OH, THE TWO LITTLE ONES, YEAH.

THAT. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU KEEP GOING ON ZOOMING IN EVEN FURTHER ON THOSE TWO ZEROS WHERE BURLESON THE END OF BURLESON. YES. RIGHT THERE. RIGHT THERE. THAT LAST ZERO COULD PROBABLY

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BRING IT UP. SO BRIAN, IS THERE ACTION BEING PROPOSED FOR THIS? I MEAN IT HAS TO GO THROUGH A SERIES OF PUBLIC HEARINGS I WOULD ASSUME. SO. NOT NOT FOR TODAY. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCE SO WE COULD DRAW ALL OF THESE. AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO IS PUT THIS ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTION. IS THERE TWO READINGS, AMY, OR REQUIRED? ONE, I THINK IT'S A RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S DEFINITELY A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN IT'S USUALLY THEN IT IS ADOPTED. BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS IF YOU GUYS ARE HAPPY WITH THIS MAP, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS ONE EXHIBIT PLAN B OR SAMPLE PLAN B, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT AS THE PROPOSED MAP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'LL PUT IT UP ON THE WEBSITE SO PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT IT. SO WE'LL HAVE IT READY TO GO DO BIG MAPS. WE'LL GET YOU BIG MAPS. WE'LL GET BIG MAPS FOR THE PUBLIC. RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS? MICHAEL, COULD YOU HEAR THAT OR DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DO THE PLAN B, SO THAT WAY RESIDENTS CAN KIND OF START SEEING WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND THEN IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, WE HAD YOU. YES, SIR. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, TO BE CLEAR, ALL OF THESE DISTRICTS, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT LIVED IN THESE CURRENT DISTRICTS THAT WERE REPRESENTING THESE ARE REPRESENTED IN THESE DRAWINGS. CORRECT? FOR THE RECORD. OKAY.

YES. WE DID NOT DRAW ANY INCUMBENTS OUT OF THEIR DISTRICTS. ALL RIGHT. EXCELLENT.

WELL THANK YOU. WE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO IT OR WE WANT TO SAY LET'S PUT THIS FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND SEE WHAT FOLKS HAVE TO SAY AND MOVE ON. IT'S A BIG, BIG DECISION. I'M CERTAIN THAT THERE IF WE SPENT MORE TIME, WE COULD COME UP WITH MORE CREATIVE CHANGES. BUT JUST AS I SAID EARLIER, COUNCILS ONLY GET CHANCES TO DO THIS EVERY SO OFTEN. IN FACT, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO COME AND GO AND NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE LINES. SO I FELT LIKE WE I THINK THIS PLAN IS APT TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T. EQUITABLE PLAN, OKAY? AND MIRACULOUSLY, YOU KNOW, USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THIS GOING, USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THIS GOING ON, THERE ARE REAL. CONTENTIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINES.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW COLLABORATIVE THIS COUNCIL IS, THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT MOVING SQUARES HERE OR MOVING SQUARES THERE. DOES IT MAINTAIN THE POPULATION? DOES IT

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IT'S JUST JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE PUBLICIZING IT, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME KIND OF ACTION IN MAY, PERHAPS DEPENDING ON FEEDBACK. IT'S BETTER TO GET IT RIGHT AND TAKE OUR TIME ON THIS THAN IT IS TO JUST RUSH IT THROUGH. SO, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE'VE REASONED THROUGH IS GOOD, BUT THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF THAT SOME FOLKS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TAKING A LOOK AT OUR PROPOSAL MIGHT WANT TO GIVE US THAT FEEDBACK, AND IT COULD BE GOOD FEEDBACK, FRANKLY. SO, ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THANK YOU ALL ALL RIGHT. OH WE DO HAVE AN ITEM. OH I WAS ABOUT TO DO OH I'M OUT I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS IS BUT YEAH.

[4) Consider approval of a resolution authorizing a Regional Water Supply Lease Agreement between Green Valley Special Utility District and the City of Kyle. ]

MIKE MURPHY DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES. AND SO. A LITTLE BACKGROUND. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS IS THE GREEN VALLEY SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT SUV WATER LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF KYLE. AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF TIMES TODAY. THIS IS THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE THING, I THINK ON THIS FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN ABLE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S LEADERSHIP ON THIS, TO MOVE AT A VERY RAPID PACE ON THIS THESE THINGS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER PROBABLY THAN ANYBODY, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AS FAST AS WHAT WE'RE MAKING THIS TURNING THIS AROUND. AND SO BRINGING IT UP AT ONE OF OUR OUR BOARD MEETINGS, WORKING WITH GRAHAM, HELPING US DRAFT THE AGREEMENT. WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD REALLY FAST. NOW THIS AGREEMENT, I'M NOT READING OFF THE SLIDE HERE, BUT THIS AGREEMENT DID GO TO THE GREEN VALLEY SUD ON THE 27TH, AND THEY APPROVED THIS AGREEMENT UNANIMOUSLY AT THEIR BOARD. AND SO NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN ONCE WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THEN IT'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ARBOR BOARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL. IS THAT RIGHT, GREG? I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE OUR APPROVAL. OKAY. EVEN BETTER, EVEN QUICKER. BUT IF IT DOES, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. SO JUST A LITTLE HISTORY HERE. THE KYLE AND GREEN VALLEY THROUGH THE MEMBERSHIP AT THE THROUGH GREEN VALLEY'S MEMBERSHIP WITH CANYON REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY, WE'RE ABLE TO SPONSOR OR SPONSORS OF THE ARWA RWA, WHICH HAS A REGIONAL AQUIFER GROUNDWATER SUPPLY PROJECT. KYLE ANTICIPATES THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL WATER, AND GREEN VALLEY HAS DOES NOT HAVE A NEED FOR THAT WATER. SO WE WERE ABLE TO STRIKE AGREEMENT WITH THEM, ESPECIALLY ON THIS PHASE ONE B WATER, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 650,000 GALLONS PER DAY. SO AS PART OF THIS DEAL, THE 730 ACRE FEET, 652,000 GALLONS PER DAY, IN ADDITION TO

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SO WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS THAT THE GAP, BECAUSE OF THE IRON PRODUCTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING BETWEEN MAY AND THE END OF JUNE, IS THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WE PUT IN PLACE AS A PART OF THE CITY OF KYLE'S COMMITMENT TO SOLVING THE IRON ISSUE THAT WE IDENTIFIED WITH ANOTHER PARTY TO TAKE ON THEIR EXCESS WATER THAT THEY DON'T NEED AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WHILE ALSO COVERING THEIR COSTS FOR THAT SOLVING OF THAT IRON ISSUE, THAT COST, WHICH WE INTEND TO RECOVER THROUGH ACTION, HOPEFULLY. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP THAT GAP. SO WE STILL ARE BECAUSE OF THESE AGREEMENTS, WE STILL ARE ON SCHEDULE STARTING IN MAY, WHEN THE PIPELINE GETS FINISHED, TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE FULL AMOUNT. BUT WITHOUT THIS, WE WOULDN'T WE WOULD STILL HAVE A GAP. AND THERE'S REALLY TWO, TWO PARTS OF THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FILL IN THE GAP. BUT ALSO ONCE WE START TAKING THAT FULL AMOUNT OF WATER FROM ARWA, THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND OUR AGREEMENT WITH GREEN VALLEY BEYOND THAT, HOPEFULLY 2 TO 4 YEARS BEYOND THAT, SO THAT IT'S GOING TO HELP US GET ALL THE WAY UP TO 2028, 2029, AND MAYBE EVEN FURTHER, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE NEGOTIATION RIGHTS WITH WITH GREEN VALLEY. AND IF AND IF THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A NEED FOR THAT WATER, WE'RE GOING TO STILL TAKE IT. SO IT'S SORT OF WELL, WHAT I WANT TO SAY FROM, FROM THAT AND FROM THIS PROPOSAL THAT YOU'VE HAD AND WE IT WAS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT JUST TO SAY IT PUBLICLY AND ON THE RECORD IS JUST THANK YOU, MIKE AND BRIAN IN PARTICULAR FOR BEING VERY OPEN TO OPPORTUNITIES AND CAPITALIZING ON THE VARIETY OF SITUATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN FACING WITH THIS SUPER COMPLEX AGREEMENT. BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU YOU BEING PROACTIVE TO FIND THIS WATER SOURCE IS SINGLE HANDEDLY PROBABLY GOING TO SAVE THE CITY OF KYLE A LOT OF GRIEF THIS SUMMER. AND SO IT'S JUST TO BE NOTED THAT YOU'RE THE THAT THE WAY THAT YOU'RE ENGAGING THIS WATER SITUATION. SINCE YOU BOTH GOT HERE, YOU TOOK IT VERY SERIOUSLY, AND YOU PUT US ON NOTICE THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM, BUT THAT YOU ALSO DIDN'T JUST PASS THE BUCK, YOU TOOK IT ON AS A CHALLENGE TO SOLVE. AND IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT MINDSET THAT YOU HAD, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS. WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THIS SOLUTION IN PLACE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO VERY PUBLICLY STATE ON THE RECORD THAT YOU BOTH DID A VERY FANTASTIC JOB BRINGING THIS SOLUTION TO US AT EXACTLY THE MOMENT THAT WE NEEDED IT. SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. AND IT WAS IT WAS LITERALLY I THINK THE CITY MANAGER WILL AGREE WITH ME, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THIS WAS A HUGE TEAM EFFORT. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WENT ON BEHIND THE SCENES AND WORKING WITH GREEN VALLEY. I WILL SAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY COOPERATIVE AND WILLING TO WORK WITH US, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE FOLKS OVER THERE ALSO. SO THIS IS JUST WE'VE GONE OVER THIS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN, BUT THE THREE PHASES WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO COVER THE EXPENSES FOR FIXED OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE. WE'RE GOING TO COVER THE VARIABLE COST. AND THROUGH THE CLARIFICATION PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO PAY. GREEN VALLEY'S PORTION OF THAT.

SO THIS IS A REALLY GOOD DEAL. WE'VE COMPARED THIS WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY PAY GBRA. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ONCE YOU TAKE OUT DEBT SERVICES FROM GBRA, IT'S ALMOST IDENTICAL AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING PER 1000 GALLONS FOR THIS WATER. SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY AND INTENTIONALLY CITY OF OUR CITY. BUT GREEN VALLEY DID NOT CHARGE US AN AD OR FEE FOR THEM HANDLING THIS WATER. SO THAT WAS THAT WAS A HUGE BENEFIT AND REALLY COOPERATIVE EFFORT.

AND SO THIS IS JUST A BREAKDOWN OF THE COST FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. AND SO THIS WILL WE'RE

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IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS, YOU CAN VOTE WITH YOUR HAND.

I'LL KEEP AN EYE ON IT. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, I. OKAY, THERE WE GO. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 0. ANYTHING ELSE?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.