[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]
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GOOD EVENING. TODAY IS TUESDAY, APRIL 8TH, AND THE TIME IS 6:30 P.M. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? WEBB. PRESENT. SIEGEL. HERE. KENT. HERE. CALIPHATE. HERE. HOW? SARADA.
[II) Approval of Minutes]
HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. ITEM NUMBER TWO. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. MARCH 25TH, 2025. REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MARCH MARCH 25TH, 2025. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COMMISSIONER SERRANO AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WEBB.IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING, PLEASE SAY AYE. I. I.
OKAY. THAT MOTION PASSES. ITEM NUMBER THREE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF REGULAR MEETINGS. SPEAKERS ARE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS, AND THEY MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT NOW. OKAY. MOVING ON.
[IV) Consent Agenda]
CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEMS TWO, THREE AND FOUR AND FIVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE FROM COMMISSIONER SERRANO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WEBB. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING, PLEASE SAY AYE. I. OKAY. THAT ALSO PASSES, WHICH TAKES US TO CONSIDER IMPOSSIBLE ACTION. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A[6) Consider approval of a preliminary plan for approximately 762.3 acres out of the William Hemphill Survey, Abstract No. 221 and Albert Pace Survey, Abstract No. 367, establishing the Pecan Woods Subdivision, located at the northeast intersection of Heidenreich Lane and E. RR 150. (SUB-24-0337)]
PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR APPROXIMATELY 762.3 ACRES OUT OF WILLIAM HEMPHILL SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 221 AND ALBERT PAY SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 367, ESTABLISHING THE PECAN WOOD SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF HEIDENREICH LANE AND EAST RR 150 SUV DASH 240337. MR. LUCAS. YES. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU.TONIGHT. WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR YOU. THIS IS GOING TO BE KNOWN AS PECAN WOODS.
PRELIMINARY PLAN. JUST KIND OF WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE. REGARDING THE PLAT.
SO THIS PROJECT IS PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. YOU CAN SEE THAT DARK OUTLINE.
THERE IS THE ENTIRE PECAN WOOD SUBDIVISION. SO THEY DO HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAN IN FOR THAT ENTIRE AREA. HOWEVER, THIS APPLICANT IS ONLY GOING TO BE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING PHASES ONE A THROUGH ONE G. SO THOSE ARE TO BE THE ONES THAT THEY'LL TAKE DOWN AND COME BACK. AND YOU'LL SEE A FINAL PLAT ON THOSE, PREFERABLY SOONER THAN LATER. BUT THE PROPERTY IS AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, REGULATED VIA DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. MOST OF IT IS IN THE ETJ. YOU WILL SEE A SMALL STRIP ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS, WHICH WAS USED TO FURTHER SOME ANNEXATIONS DOWN, DOWN THE WAY. SO THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY LAYOUT. YOU CAN SEE THE DARK KIND OF GRAY AREAS ARE THE FUTURE PHASES THAT WILL BE RETAINED BY THE CURRENT OWNER, WHICH IS THE WALTON TRUST. AND THEN ALL THE LOTS WITH THE PHASES WILL BE WHAT D.R. HORTON IS LOOKING AT TAKING DOWN. THOSE ARE PHASES ONE, TWO AND THREE. AGAIN, THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT 11A THROUGH ONE G TO BE DOING FIRST. COUPLE OVERALL LAND USES. SO THERE ARE SOME MUNICIPAL USES I DO WANT TO CORRECT THIS. IT'S NOT 5.2 ACRES. IT'S ACTUALLY TWO ACRES. THEY'RE LOOKING AT DONATING ONE ACRE SITE FOR POLICE AND ONE ACRE SITE FOR FIRE. THAT'S PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 15 ACRES IN COMMERCIAL. THEY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 24 ACRES THAT ARE A MIXED USE COMMERCIAL SLASH MULTIFAMILY. THEY HAVE DEDICATED 12.4 ACRES TO THE SCHOOL. THAT'S THE MINIMUM SIZE THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD NEED TO OPERATE A FACILITY. AND THEY DO NEED A FACILITY IN THAT AREA. THEY ARE LOOKING AT 13.2 ACRES OF STRAIGHT MULTIFAMILY, AND THEN 488 ACRES OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE LOTS BREAKDOWN.
THIS DA HAS A MAXIMUM UNIT COUNT. SO RIGHT NOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU IS THE MAXIMUM AS THEY GO IN AND FINE TUNE THEIR PLANS. SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS MAY DROP OFF, BUT THIS IS THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD. SO IT'S BROKEN DOWN BY PHASES. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW MANY UNITS IN EACH PHASE. SO 108 87. THEY'RE AVERAGING ABOUT 100 UNTIL YOU GET TO PHASE TWO. THEN WE'RE AT 200. AND PHASE THREE AT 250. AGAIN WALTON TRACTS WILL BE
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DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE EITHER BY THIS APPLICANT IF THEY CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD OR BY ANOTHER APPLICANT OR THE WALTONS. TYPICAL EASEMENTS ARE PROVIDED. 15 MEWS NEXT TO RIGHT OF WAY.FIVE ON SIDE AND TEN ON REAR. THERE WILL BE MAYBE ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS THAT ARE DONE SEPARATE INSTRUMENT OR AT LATER PHASES. THERE ARE SECTIONS OF THE TRAIL THAT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THOSE WILL NEED TO BE PLACED IN AN EASEMENT. SO MOST LIKELY AT THE FINAL PLAT STAGE OF EACH OF THOSE CORRESPONDING PHASES. PARKLAND DEDICATION IS 186 ACRES. THIS IS PER THE DA. IT'S A COMBINATION OF DEDICATION AND FEES. BUT FEES WILL BE PAID AT FINAL PLAT. SO YOU WON'T SEE ANY OF THAT DISCUSSED HERE TONIGHT. THIS IS JUST THE KIND OF PRELIMINARY LAYOUT. THERE IS A TREE MITIGATION FEE. IT'S ROUGHLY 125,000. THAT'S BASED ON REMOVAL OF TREES THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AS PROTECTED. THAT IS PART OF THE DA. THAT MAY TWEAK A LITTLE BIT AS WE GO THROUGH AND FINE TUNE THE PLAN AS WELL. THIS IS COUNTY LINE WATER, BUT IT IS CITY OF KYLE SEWER. THEY ARE BUILDING AN EXTENSION TO OUR PLANT ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY. AND THEN PECK IS THE ELECTRIC PROVIDER. SO TONIGHT YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS. APPROVE AS REQUESTED, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS AND DENY THE REQUEST. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPTION TWO TONIGHT. WE APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION. AND THAT CONDITION THAT HAYS COUNTY APPROVED THE PLAN. PROVIDE THE CITY THE REQUIRED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT 1445 LETTER. SO THEY ARE HAVING THEIR THIS PLAN REVIEWED THROUGH HAYS COUNTY NOW. I'M NOT SURE THE STATUS AS OF THIS MEETING, BUT THEY WERE NOT FINAL. SO AS LONG AS THERE'S NOTHING THAT WILL SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE ANY OF THOSE COMMENTS CHANGE, THIS PLAT WILL MOVE FORWARD LIKE IT'S LIKE IT'S BEEN APPROVED TODAY. NOW, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE COUNTY THAT THEY REQUIRE, CHANGES THAT WILL WILL ALTER THIS PLAN SIGNIFICANTLY, WE WILL BRING THAT BACK AND HAVE YOU RECONSIDER IT AND SHOW YOU WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. SO I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN WAS THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ENACTED? I THINK THERE WAS A COUPLE AMENDMENTS TO THIS. I WANT TO SAY 20 2016, 2017 TIME FRAME. YES, SIR. SO ALMOST A DECADE OLD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YEAH. WHAT IS HAYS COUNTY? WHAT WHAT DO THEY NEED TO APPROVE? SO AS AS FAR AS SO THIS PROPERTY IS IN OUR ETJ. THAT'S OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. THE STATE HAS GIVEN CITIES AND COUNTIES THE ABILITY TO REVIEW PLATS IN THEIR JURISDICTION. GENERALLY, WHEN A PLAT IS INSIDE A CITY'S ETJ, BOTH PARTIES WILL REVIEW THAT.
BECAUSE MOST LIKELY THAT DEVELOPMENT MAY BE CONTEMPLATED AS BEING INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY. SO IT ENSURES THAT WE'RE GETTING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BUILT TO OUR STANDARDS. SINCE THIS IS IN THE ETJ, THEY DO THE DUAL REVIEW PROCESS. IT GOES THROUGH BOTH COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL. SAME AS AS SIMILAR TO THIS BOARD. SO ONCE WE GET THAT LETTER THAT THEY'RE APPROVING THAT THEN WE CAN WE CAN RECORD THE PLAT. THANK YOU. YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THIS.
CERTAINLY, BUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ARE THEY CLEAR ABOUT THIS DEDICATION AND THIS DEVELOPMENT? YES, SIR. WE HAVE WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL PROJECTS GOING ON WITH THEIR BOND. SO WE WE'VE BEEN HAVING REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THEM, COORDINATING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, DISCUSSING LOCATION AND ACREAGE. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF THE LOCATION AND THE SIZE. AND THEY HAVE SIGNED OFF ON, ON THIS LAYOUT AS WELL AS A CITIZEN, NOT JUST A COMMISSIONER. I WOULD OBSERVE THAT THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS PRETTY MUCH CAPTURED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. AND IF THAT'S MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT SERVES ONLY THE DEVELOPMENT, AND I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO LOOK AT THAT AND PERHAPS PLACE THAT ON THE OUTER PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY. LIKE I SAY, THAT'S A COMMENT AS MUCH AS A CITIZEN AS ANYTHING ELSE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE TWO. MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIALS, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE OF THIS LOOKS LIKE WHAT ARE WHAT IS THE LANDSCAPING LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, IS THIS GOING TO BE OR HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO THAT? I'M ASKING BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, CITY COUNCIL SHARED SOME DATA THAT OVER 80% OF OUR WATER USE. CORRECT ME IF THIS STATISTIC IS WRONG. I'VE BEEN WRONG BEFORE. IT'LL HAPPEN AGAIN. IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND VERY MUCH RELATED TO LANDSCAPING? HAS THAT BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION HERE? I CAN'T SAY WHAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN THIS WAS NEGOTIATED. SO ALL OF THESE HAPPENED IN 2016. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING SPECIAL OR ODD ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. I DO KNOW OUR CURRENT LANDSCAPE CODE HAS SOME PROVISIONS FOR ARTIFICIAL GRASS IN THE REAR AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE THEY'RE UTILIZING OUR OLD LANDSCAPE CODE. I DON'T THINK IT HAS THOSE PROVISIONS. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S
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GOING TO BE KIND OF TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF THAT STATISTIC WAS WRONG. I CAN'T I CAN'T CORRECT ON THE NUMBER. BUT BUT THEY ARE A HIGH WATER USER. I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S NOT JUST THE LANDSCAPING. YOU HAVE FAMILIES THAT ARE LIVING THERE COOKING, SHOWERING, WASHING CLOTHES. SO WE DON'T HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DOCTOR HORTON HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT. WE DO. I MEAN, I THINK MAYBE DR. HORTON COULD ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. THEY ARE ON COUNTY LINE WATER. THEY'RE ON ANOTHER WATER PROVIDER. BUT BUT ABSOLUTELY, THEY WOULD ALWAYS BE ELIGIBLE TO USE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING SCANNERS THAT ARE MORE WATER WISE AS WELL. BUT BUT DOCTOR HORTON IS HERE. OKAY. I THINK I THINK THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. YEAH. IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE TO ADD TO THAT, FEEL FREE. IF YOU GIVE IT ANY CONSIDERATION OR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING FOR IT. BUT I THINK THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I AGREE. THANK YOU JASON. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. MISS MCCULLUM ANSWERED THE QUESTION CORRECTLY. WE ARE VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS. THIS IS THE FIRST STEP BEFORE EVEN OUR ENGINEERING PLANS ARE NORMALLY SUBMITTED TO REVIEW. HORTON IS VERY SAVVY AND AWARE OF THE WATER RESTRICTIONS. MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE ISSUES WITH GOFORTH RIGHT NOW. SO COUNTY LINE TO DATE HAS BEEN PROACTIVE IN BEING AHEAD OF THEIR WATER USES. TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT REDUCING THAT TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE OBLIGATIONS FROM OUR HOMEBUYERS IN THIS COMMUNITY. THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A PRETTY HEALTHY AMENITY CENTER SPACE AND SOME OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. TO DATE, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THOSE AS ENCUMBRANCES. BUT IF WE WERE TO COME FORWARD AND TO REDUCE THAT BECAUSE OF ONGOING WATER LIMITATIONS, THEN THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE WOULD WORK WITH JASON AND MISS MCCULLUM TO, TO ADDRESS. GOOD. THANK YOU. I HAVE A YOU HAVEN'T WORKED IT OUT THEN ABOUT TURF REQUIREMENTS THEN FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. ARE YOU INCLINED TOWARDS ONE PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENT OF TURF ON A GIVEN LOT? MANY DEVELOPERS REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, 50% SOD. BERMUDA SOD. WE HAVE SEEN CHALLENGES EXECUTING WITH THE TURF REQUIREMENTS. ASTROTURF MEANING NOW NATURAL VEGETATION. I MEAN, I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE, SAY, PRAIRIE LAKES OR CERTAIN AREAS. WE TRY TO INCORPORATE AS MUCH OF THE ZERO SCAPE OPTION AS WE CAN. ALSO, RECOGNIZING WE'RE 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS AWAY FROM HAVING OUR FIRST HOUSE IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF RUNWAY TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS BEFORE WE CAN COMMIT TO THINGS TODAY. AND THE CONCERN IS THAT MANY DEVELOPERS, THROUGH THE HOA, PERSIST IN REQUIREMENTS OF A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF TURF, WHICH IS WHERE MOST OF THE WATER TENDS TO GO IN TERMS OF IRRIGATION. SO WE'RE ALL PUNCHING HOLES IN THE GROUND, BUT WE'RE ALL GETTING THE WATER AND REALLY FROM THE SAME PLACE. AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROBLEM, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET BETTER IN THE NEXT 1 TO 2 YEARS. EVERYBODY'S COMPETING FOR THE CARRIZO WILCOX WATER AND WE'VE ALL GOT OUR LIMITATIONS. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WATER WISE LANDSCAPING THAT INCORPORATES NATIVE AND NATURAL PLANTS OR ADAPTED PLANTS. SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, IN THE NEXT 1 TO 2 YEARS, REALLY TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. THE CONDITION BEING THAT HAYS COUNTY APPROVED THE PLAN AND PROVIDE THE CITY WITH THE REQUIRED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. 1445 LETTER. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND.SECOND. OKAY. MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS MADE BY MYSELF AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KALAFUT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. THAT PASSES.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. YES. I COULDN'T TELL IF I'D HEARD YOU OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EAR. I WAS LIKE, I THOUGHT I DID, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO SAY NO, I NEEDED TO LET HIM SAY NO.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT TAKES US TO OUR LAST ITEM, THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. SO WE'VE GOT
[7) Consider approval of a Conditional Use Permit for pickleball courts located at 400 E RR 150, in the I-35 Overlay District. (Sonic Pickleball Courts – CUP-24-0119)]
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR PICKLEBALL COURTS LOCATED AT 400 EAST RR 150 IN THE I-35 OVERLAY DISTRICT. SONIC PICKLEBALL COURTS CP 240119. MISS SHARP.ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, KAYLA SHARP, SENIOR PLANNER. SO TONIGHT THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT SETUP THAN WHAT YOU ALL ARE USED TO. STILL I-35 OVERLAY. BUT THIS
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ONE, AS YOU'LL YOU'LL NOTICE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, THERE IS NO PROPOSED BUILDING NECESSARILY.BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING SOME SITE IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND SO THAT REQUIRES PNC APPROVAL THROUGH THE CIP PROCESS UNDER THE I-35 OVERLAY. SO THIS IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING SONIC ON EAST FM 150 OR RR 150, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.
AND IT IS OWNED BY THE SAME OWNERS AS THE SONIC, SO THEY'RE SHARING ACCESS TO THIS SITE THROUGH THE SONIC PARKING LOT AND UTILIZING SONIC PARKING. FOR THESE PICKLEBALL COURTS. SO THEY ARE PROPOSING THREE PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND SOME ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. THEY HAVE A DETENTION POND, SOME LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, THINGS LIKE THAT. HERE'S THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN, MOSTLY JUST KIND OF AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. THIS SITE IS A LITTLE BIT FUNKY WITH SOME FLOODPLAIN AND DRAINAGE ISSUES. SO THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AND BEING ADJACENT TO SONIC KIND OF MAKES SENSE. GO GRAB SOME SOME SONIC DRINKS AND GO PLAY SOME PICKLEBALL OUT IN THE TEXAS HEAT. BUT YEAH. SO HERE IS THE LIGHTING PLAN AGAIN, PRETTY MUCH LIMITED TO JUST THE CORE AREA. AND NO LIGHT TRESPASS ACROSS PROPERTY LINES. AND THEN YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE APPROVE AS REQUESTED. APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR MODIFICATIONS OR DENY THE REQUEST. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE AS THE PROPOSED PLANS COMPLY WITH THE I-35 OVERLAY. AND CHAPTER 53 ZONING REQUIREMENTS. ANY QUESTIONS? JUST A QUICK QUESTION. AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. I BELIEVE SO. YES. OKAY. I'M ONLY ASKING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CLUBS AND WHATNOT OPENING UP, REQUESTING MEMBERSHIPS, AND I THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE MORE PUBLIC COURTS. WE'RE NOT SURE IF THERE'S A PRICE ASSOCIATED WITH USING THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT AS FAR AS WE'RE AWARE, THEY THEY WOULD BE PUBLIC. OKAY.
OTHER QUESTIONS. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE I WILL SAY THEY'RE THEY'RE OWNED BY BY SONIC. SO THEY'RE NOT A CITY AMENITY. SO ABSOLUTELY I WOULD I WOULD DEFINITELY TALK TO SONIC ABOUT HOW THEY'RE WANTING TO DO THAT. AND I THINK SOMEONE FROM SONICS HERE, MAYBE THEY COULD ANSWER THAT OR ARE THEY HERE. OH THAT WE COULD ASK THEM TO MAYBE. BUT THEY ARE COURTS OWNED BY SONIC.
OKAY. YOU MENTIONED THAT BOTH LOTS WERE OWNED BY THE PEOPLE THAT OWNED SONIC, AND THAT THEY'RE SHARING ACCESS AND PARKING. IN THE EVENT THAT ONE OF THE LOTS WAS SOLD, WHETHER IT WAS THE RESTAURANT OR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT ACCESS AND PARKING? SO ULTIMATELY, IF ONE OF THE LOTS WERE TO BE SOLD, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF SHARED ACCESS AND SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. AT THIS POINT, THEY'VE INDICATED THERE'S NO PLANS TO SELL. BUT THEY HAVE WE HAVE INFORMED THEM THAT IF THEY ARE EVER TO SELL THAT LOT, WE WILL NEED SOME SORT SORT OF FORMAL CROSS ACCESS AND SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT. OKAY. WERE THEY ADDING ANY MORE PARKING SPOTS OR. NO, JUST. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I DO HAVE ONE FOR YOU. SO ON THE IMAGE FOR THIS, IT SHOWS THAT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT, KIND OF CLOSE TO THE PARKING SPOTS. IS THERE SOME SORT OF BARRICADE OR ANYTHING THERE THAT WILL KEEP, I DON'T KNOW, CLUMSY FEET ACCIDENTALLY STEPPING ON A GAS PEDAL WHEN THEY'RE IN THE WRONG GEAR FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST BARRELING ONTO A PICKLEBALL COURT AND MOWING DOWN GRANDMA. I BELIEVE THERE IS ALREADY AN EXISTING PERIMETER FENCE THERE. AND I KNOW THESE PLANS SHOWED SOME FENCING, BUT THEY SHOWED A COUPLE DIFFERENT FENCING TYPES. WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT FENCE TYPE IS BEING PROPOSED ON THIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS AN EXISTING FENCE ON THE SONIC SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT. SO, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ONE. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM VICE CHAIR STEGALL AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SERRATO. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. I. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. GREAT. OKAY. AND WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE'VE REACHED THE END OF OUR AGENDA. SO WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO
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TALK ABOUT ON TODAY'S AGENDA. AND THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS THAT MAY BE DISCUSSED. SO WE ARE