Aug 05, 2025 City Council Regular Meeting

BE. NO ACTION TAKEN NOW. MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ADJOURNED. GOOD EVENING,

[I) Call Meeting to Order, Roll Call, and Excuse Absences]

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HARRIS. HERE. MCKINNEY. HERE. TOBIAS. PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. WE HAVE A

[II) Approval of Minutes]

[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

SO WHY I WANTED TO SPEAK WAS TO ENSURE THAT THERE BE OPEN DISCUSSIONS, AS THERE WERE BACK SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WITH THE ENTIRE COUNTY COMMUNITY. I KNOW THAT THE ARCHITECTS HAD REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE KYLE CITIZENS, BUT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING TO A MUCH BIGGER PROGRAM. AND SO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS FOR A CITY ANIMAL SHELTER, THE ARCHITECTS DISCUSSION AND SEVERAL COMMUNITY OF KYLE PRESENTATIONS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED WITH THE INTENTION OF PROVIDING JUST A CITY OF KYLE FACILITY WITH CONSIDERATION FOR PARTNERS. KYLE RESIDENTS MUST CONSIDER WHETHER TO BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY AND ENTIRE BURDEN, AS HAS THE CITY OF SAN MARCOS, WHICH HAS BEEN STRUGGLING FOR MANY YEARS TO SUSTAIN A LARGE CAPACITY BEYOND WHAT THE BUILDING WAS MEANT TO HOLD. SHOULD THIS BE AN EXPANSION OF WHAT THE CITY OF KYLE WAS DISCUSSING AS A FEASIBILITY STUDY, I BELIEVE WE NEED A REVISED FEASIBILITY STUDY AND MUCH COMMUNITY INPUT. I'M COMMENTING TONIGHT TO ENCOURAGE CONVERSATION. I DON'T MEAN TO BE NEGATIVE IN ANY WAY, I JUST WANT TO HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY AND ALL THE PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR RESCUE GROUPS, NONPROFITS, PAWS, SHELTER, PAWS ON THE GROUND, ALL THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, AND ALL AREA VETERINARIANS WITH A MERE 41 DOG KENNELS IN TONIGHT'S PLAN, 36 CATS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROBABLY DOUBLING THE FACILITY SIZE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE REVISIT THE SIZE AND PLANS ENTIRELY, ENSURE ADEQUATE CAPACITY AND ADEQUATE PROGRAMING TO SUSTAIN THE FUTURE NEEDS OF ANIMAL SERVICES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP IS VAUGHN FLORESCU. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME IS YVONNE FLORES, AND I CAME HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 35, WHICH IS IN REGARDS TO THE CITY'S CHARTER. DURING THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS OR YOU GUYS HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS REGARDING COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT RECEIVING A JOB FOR UP TO TWO YEARS. MR. HEIZER, COUNCIL MEMBER LAURA HARRIS AND MARK MCKINNEY WERE ALL OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT I HAVE A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT COUNCIL WAIT AT LEAST TWO YEARS IN ORDER TO FIND EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY. SO IN A LETTER THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE CITY, THE CITY MANAGER, BRIAN LANGLEY, SENT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER STATES THAT THE CITY WOULD BE HIRING PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER ASHLEY BRADSHAW FOR THE, QUOTE, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST POSITION WITH KYLE PD. THAT NEW POSITION WAS NOT IN THE 2023 2024 BUDGET, ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE NOTEWORTHY TO

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ADDITIONALLY, FOR TWO YEARS, SHE WAS A BROKER WHO DIRECTED LEADS WITHIN THAT BROKERAGE, AND FROM 2004 TO 2011, SHE WAS A SERVER SLASH WAITRESS. HER PERSONAL REFERENCES WERE MOSTLY INCOMPLETE. MOST NOTABLE HER PERSONAL REFERENCE WAS HER MOM TO PTA MOMS AND A SON'S FRIEND'S MOM. HER REFERENCES IN HER APPLICATION WERE COUNCIL MEMBER ROBERT RIZZO, DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER STEVEN SPEARS, AND COUNTY COMMISSIONER WALT SMITH. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SALARY BECAUSE IN THE POSTED POSITION, THE SALARY STARTED AT 2173. THE THAT WAS THE LOW. THE HIGH WAS 2717 HR SUGGESTED $2,030.28. COUNCILMEMBER LANGLEY THEN RAISED THE PRICE TO $33 PER HOUR, SO THE STARTING SALARY WAS $45,198, FOR A DIFFERENCE OF 23,000 FOR DIFFERENCE OF WHAT SHE WAS ACTUALLY PAID, $23,461. THE HIGH WAS 56,513, FOR A DIFFERENCE OF $12,126. SO MY QUESTION IS, MAYBE IF YOU GUYS HAD THE RIGHT PAY ON THERE, MORE APPLICANTS WOULD HAVE APPLIED FOR THE POSITION. ADDITIONALLY, AS A TIMELINE, ASHLEY BRADSHAW'S ESSAY WAS 1219. I WAS HIRED 21 DAYS LATER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT UP IS MICHAEL MCDONALD.

AND BEFORE WE START MY TIME, I WANT TO I WANT TO TELL YOU GUYS SOMETHING I HATE COMING UP HERE.

I ABSOLUTELY HATE IT. AND I HATE THAT I'M DID I DID I SAY TWO THINGS? DID I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU? BUT SOMEONE'S GOT TO SAY IT, MAN. THESE SOME STUFF IS OUT OF CONTROL HERE. AND THAT'S WHY I COME UP AND I SPEAK AGAINST THE STUFF I DO. CITIZENS OF KYLE, WE HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR 20, 25, 26. OUR TAXES ARE ALL GOING UP, WAY UP. THE 20 2425 CITY OF KYLE BUDGET WAS $363 MILLION. THE PROPOSED 20 2526 BUDGET WILL BE $633 MILLION. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 20 AND 24, 25 AND 2526 BUDGET IS $240 MILLION, A 66% INCREASE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE. CONSIDER THESE ADDITIONAL 20 2526 FISCAL YEAR INCREASE FOR INSIDE CITY LIMIT CUSTOMERS. CITY OF HOME. PROPERTY TAX UP $472 FROM LAST YEAR. CITY OF KYLE WASTEWATER RATES UP 6% FROM LAST YEAR. PROPOSED KYLE SPORTSPLEX OVER $150 MILLION.

PROPOSED ROAD BONDS OVER $130 MILLION. I THOUGHT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD OUR BEST INTEREST IN MIND. DOES THIS SOUND LIKE THEY DO ON TOP OF THE CITY OF KYLE? FEES AND TAXES. HOW ABOUT ADDING THESE AS WELL? HAYS C-I-S-D TAXES 377 MILLION PLUS. HAYS COUNTY TAXES 356 MILLION PLUS.

SO WHO'S FAULT IS IT THAT THE CITY OF KYLE BUDGET INCREASED $240 MILLION IN ONE YEAR? WE KNOW WHERE THE BLAME LIES, AND IT'S NOT FROM US, THE TAXPAYERS. IT'S WITH THOSE WHO HAD THE POWER OF THE PURSE, THOSE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO VOTED FOR THESE INCREASES. THEY ARE THE ONES TO BLAME FOR BURDENING THOSE WHO THEY SAY THEY REPRESENT. SADLY, A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T SEEM TO CARE THAT THIS KYLE CITY TAXPAYERS WILL BE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG WHEN THESE TAXES ARE DUE. FOR EXAMPLE, IT REALLY MUST BOTHER THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY FLYING TO DIFFERENT CITIES, ATTEND MULTIPLE CONFERENCES, STAY AT FANCY HOTELS, EAT AT FINE DINING DINING ESTABLISHMENTS, TAKE THEIR

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ONCE AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ETHICS COMPLAINT AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA. I SPOKE ABOUT THIS WHEN IT WAS FILED. FROM THE ONSET. I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF THE TIMING OF THIS COMPLAINT.

AND THE MOTIVE FOR FILING THE APPEARANCE IS THAT IT WAS RETALIATORY, INTIMIDATING AND HARASSING BRAVO COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA FOR STANDING YOUR GROUND UNDER THE PRESSURE YOU FACED.

THIS BEGAN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA FILING AN ETHICS COMPLAINT AGAINST MAYOR MITCHELL THIS SPRING. ABOUT TWO WEEKS LATER, THE MAYOR, AFTER A VOTE WITH THE COUNCIL, DELEGATED A COMPLAINT TO BE FILED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, MISS ALCORN REED, AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA.

THIS ALONE BREAKS THE CODE OF ETHICS. SECTION 2181A YOU CANNOT DELEGATE ANYONE TO FILE A COMPLAINT FOR YOU. YOU MUST FILE IT YOURSELF. ALSO. C SECTION 405 OF THE CITY CHARTER. MAYOR MITCHELL HAD NO AUTHORITY TO GIVE MISS ALCORN READ THIS DIRECTION. WHY DIDN'T MAYOR MITCHELL FILE A COMPLAINT HIMSELF? COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA, DURING HIS COMPLAINT AGAINST THE MAYOR, STATED THAT THE MAYOR'S INFLUENCING THE COUNCIL. THE MAYOR DENIED THIS, YET HE DRAGGED THE COUNCIL INTO THE COMPLAINT AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA. THIS GIVES THE APPEARANCE OF A WEAK COUNCIL. I'M APPALLED THAT NO ONE, NOT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, STOOD UP AND SAID THEY WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THIS. WHY DIDN'T ANY OF YOU STAND UP AND ASK THE MAYOR TO FILE HIS COMPLAINT INSTEAD OF BEING COMPLICIT IN THIS? THIS COMPLAINT WAS BROUGHT IN BAD FAITH. THE MAYOR ALSO DRAGGED MISS ALCORN. REED IN THE RECORD, REFLECTS MISS ALCORN. REED DID NOT WANT TO FILE THIS COMPLAINT. IT'S SO OBVIOUSLY FRIVOLOUS. C CODE OF ETHICS, SECTION 2274C1.

THAT'S WHY THE ETHICS COMMISSION ENDED UP DISMISSING IT. IT WAS A BIG NOTHING BURGER. THE COMMISSIONERS THE COMMISSION'S DECISION ON THIS COMPLAINT WAS TO SIMPLY SEND A LETTER TO CITY MANAGER LANGLEY, ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, INCLUDING MAYOR MITCHELL, TO CLARIFY THE TERMS RECUSE AND ABSTAIN. C COUNCIL MEMBER ZUNIGA RECUSED HIMSELF, ALTHOUGH NOT NECESSARY, HAS NO FINANCIAL INTEREST OR GAIN, WAS INVOLVED AND THE COUNCIL KNEW THIS ALL ALONG. MISS ALCORN REED SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO TERMS AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING. ALL OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. WHY DIDN'T MISS ALCORN, REED AND THE ECO SECRETARY CHECK THIS COMPLAINT FOR LEGAL SUFFICIENCY? THIS IS A STAIN ON THE APPEARANCE OF THEIR LEGAL COMPETENCY. SARAH DISMISSED FOUR OTHER COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS WITHOUT EVEN NOTIFYING THE COMMISSION. BUT SOMEHOW THIS FRIVOLOUS COMPLAINT FROM MAYOR MITCHELL AND COUNCIL SAILED RIGHT THROUGH HER HANDS INTO THE HANDS OF THE COMMISSION MISS KERR HAS BEEN DISMISSING, HAD BEEN DISMISSING COMPLAINTS WITHOUT EVEN NOTIFYING THE COMMISSION THAT'S TASKED WITH THIS BECAUSE, IN SARAH'S OPINION, THEY LACK LEGAL SUFFICIENCY. BUT NO, NOT THIS ONE. THIS ONE EVEN THOUGH OBVIOUSLY LACKED MERIT. IT'S APPALLING TO FIND OUT DETAILS OF THIS COMPLAINT AND TO PUT IT NICELY. WHAT A BUNCH OF SHENANIGANS. IT'S BUDGET TIME. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO REIN IN THE SPENDING. YOU'RE GOING TO HURT BOTH THE AFFLUENT AS WELL AS STRUGGLING INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES OF THE CITY. NO ONE IS IMMUNE FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR CHOICES. VOTE FOR THE CHARTER COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION FOR FORMAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TO HAVE TO WAIT TWO YEARS AFTER SERVING ON THE COUNCIL BEFORE THEY CAN BE HIRED BY THE CITY. IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE JUSTIFIABLE REASON FOR THAT, YOUR MORAL COMPASS IS POINTING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT YOU TO REMAIN ON COUNCIL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THOSE ARE ALL THE CITIZEN COMMENTS FORMS THAT I HAVE. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I'M

[IV) Agenda Order]

[3) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding the complete comprehensive feasibility study for the City of Kyle Animal Care Center.]

TONIGHT WE HAVE FOR YOU THE FINAL COMPLETE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE ANIMAL CARE CENTER IN THE CITY OF KYLE. WE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS, BUT YOU ALL KNOW. AND ANYONE THAT'S BEEN WATCHING KNOWS THAT THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER IS RELEASING ALL OF ITS ISLA PARTICIPANTS IN 2026. AND SO WE BEGAN A FEASIBILITY STUDY

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I JUST WANT TO SAY, BEFORE I INVITE JACKSON AND RYAN UP HERE WITH KIM HANSEN, WHO'S BEEN HERE BEFORE. THEY'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB ON THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY, AND IT WILL BE, HAS BEEN AND WILL BE TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL IN SHAPING A FACILITY THAT'S RIGHT SIZED, NOT ONLY FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT IF WE DO PARTNER WITH ANYONE. WE'VE ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH JACKSON AND RYAN ABOUT RESEARCHING WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL AND RIGHTSIZING THE FACILITY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT WOULD BE. AND THEN ALSO THE AND GROUNDING THAT IN THE OPERATIONS AND THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE LONG TERM SUCCESS WITH THE FACILITY. SO I'LL INVITE KIM UP HERE TO RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AT THE END. THANK YOU. KIM HANSEN WITH JACKSON RYAN ARCHITECTS.

AND AS JESSE SAID, WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE A COMPLETION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE NEW ANIMAL CARE FACILITY FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. AND I DID WANT TO RUN THROUGH JUST BRIEFLY. WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS. AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT. WE'VE MOVED THROUGH ALL OF THESE PHASES, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE REGULATORY LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL AS THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. SO WE BEGAN THE PROCESS WITH THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. AND FOR THE FOR THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT PROCESS, WE INCLUDES A SITE VISIT TO THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER, AS WELL AS VISIONING SESSIONS THAT INCLUDED STAKEHOLDERS AND CITY STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THE BROAD VISION AND GOAL FOR THIS POTENTIAL NEW FACILITY AND DEPARTMENT. AND WHEN WE MOVED INTO PROGRAMING WORKSHOPS WHICH WERE FAR MORE DETAILED, LOOKING AT THE PROGRAMMATIC REQUIREMENTS TO MEET THOSE VISION GOALS. AND WE ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS PROCESS A DATA ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT DATA FROM THE SAN MARCOS REGIONAL ANIMAL SHELTER. THE NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS WAS THE COMMUNITY INPUT PHASE, WHICH IS ESSENTIAL IN DETERMINING WHAT WAS RIGHT FOR THIS COMMUNITY. WE LOOKED AT THIS VIA A DIGITAL SURVEY, AS WELL AS TWO COMMUNITY IMPACT SESSIONS, AND THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND TO BE MOST SPOKEN MOST FREQUENTLY WAS NOT ONLY IN AWARENESS OF THE SITUATION FOR THE ANIMALS IN THIS REGION, BUT ALSO A DESIRE FOR A FACILITY IN THE CITY OF KYLE. WE FOUND A GREAT SUPPORT, BOTH A MODERATE AND STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE FUNDING OF THIS FACILITY, AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHAT WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURES THAT WE SAW THE COMMUNITY WANTING TO ACCOMMODATE IN THIS NEW FACILITY, BOTH DEALING WITH OVERCROWDING, HABITAT CHALLENGES IN THE SPACE THAT EXIST NOW, AS WELL AS LOOKING OUT FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE ANIMALS AND PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT DON'T EXIST OR ARE NOT EASILY ACCESSIBLE. CURRENTLY. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THIS POINT, SO WE'RE TAKING THE STAKEHOLDER INPUT, THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND THE DATA ANALYSIS, AND THEN CREATING A PROGRAM FROM THAT SPACE. SO WE TAKE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, THE QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE DATA AND TAKE THAT TO CREATE A SPACE PROGRAM, WHICH GIVES US AN AREA REQUIREMENT TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS SPOKEN IN THE IN THE VISIONING AND PROGRAMING SESSIONS. WHAT WE HEARD WAS THAT A SEPARATED INTAKE AND ADOPTION AREA WAS DESIRED. AND THIS ALLOWS US TO CREATE A SEPARATION FROM ADOPTION, WHICH IS OFTEN JOYFUL, AND A SPACE OF WELCOMING A SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND INTAKE SPACES WHICH CAN BE MORE SENSITIVE AND REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE QUIET SPACES. WE SAW A DESIRE FOR VETERINARY SERVICES AS WELL AS HABITATS, AND THE FACILITY ITSELF BEING HEALTHFUL AND ALLOWING FOR ABUNDANT ENRICHMENT FOR THE ANIMALS. WE ALSO SAW A NEED FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, PROVIDING A SPACE TO GIVE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT MEETS THE NEEDS TO KEEP MORE PETS IN HOMES. AND THEN FINALLY, WE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT OUTDOOR GREEN SPACE WAS ESSENTIAL TO THE TO THE FUTURE PROJECT. SO FROM THIS, WE MOVED INTO SITE EVALUATION. AND AS I SAID IN THE LAST PRESENTATION, WE LOOKED AT SIX SEPARATE SITES. WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PARAMETERS, TRYING TO FIND A SITE THAT'S NOT GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN ORDER TO MAKE IT HABITABLE. SO OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODPLAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SPACE THAT MEETS THE COMMUNITY'S DESIRE FOR ACCESS TO NATURE, WALKING TRAILS, THAT WE HAVE AN ADEQUATE SPACE. WE'RE SEEING APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES WOULD BE IDEAL. THIS IS VARIABLE. THERE'S GIVE AND TAKE TO ALLOW FOR THIS. BUT WE DID SEE AN ESSENTIAL NEED FOR VISIBILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY. THE ACCESSIBILITY BEING PRIMARY TO THE COMMUNITY

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AND WE ALSO HAVE THAT CONNECTION TO THE TRAIL, WHICH WAS STATED FROM THE COMMUNITY AS A DESIRABLE AN AMENITY FOR THE FOR THE SITE. SO LOOKING AT REGULATORY AND LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE COMPLETED IN THIS FINAL PHASE. WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WERE THE CORE OPERATIONAL STANDARDS ANDTS BY E STATE OF TEXAS. SO THE REQUIREMENT THAT ANIMALS BE EVALUATED BY A VETERINARIAN IS ONE OF THOSE ELEMENTS. BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT INDUSTRY BEST STANDARDS. SO THAT INVOLVES LOOKING AT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE UC DAVIS KORET SHELTER MEDICINE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE ASV, THE ASSOCIATION OF SHELTER VETERINARIANS, AND THEIR STANDARDS FOR WHAT A SHELTER DESIGN SHOULD BE. SO WE'RE LOOKING NOT ONLY AT WHAT THE MINIMUM STANDARDS ARE, BUT WHAT ARE BEST PRACTICES. HOW CAN WE PROVIDE HABITATS AND SPACES FOR STAFF, FOR THE PUBLIC, AND FOR ANIMALS THAT ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF HEALTH AND WELL-BEING? WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT BUILDING CODES AND ZONING RESTRICTIONS, AND SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE IN THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED WAS LOOKING AT THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL, SO THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT ANY FUTURE DESIGNS ARE COMPLYING WITH BUILDING CODES, BUT ALSO NOT HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORS NEARBY. THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL AND FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY. I'M GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY. WE LOOKED AT THE REVENUE AND ANNUAL EXPENSE POSSIBILITIES FOR A FOR A FACILITY OF THIS SIZE, WITH STAFFING REQUIREMENTS THAT MEET THE PROGRAMMATIC AND VISIONING GOALS STATED. DURING VISIONING, WE LOOKED AT OPERATIONAL ANNUAL REVENUE AS WELL AS FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES. ONE TIME FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD OCCUR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS EXPENSES INCLUDING SUPPLIES AND UTILITIES, AS WELL AS STAFFING EXPENSES. AND FROM THIS PERIOD OF FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY, WE ALSO HAD CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES LOOKING AT. ESTIMATES OF PROBABLE COSTS, WE LOOKED AT A RANGE OF COSTS DEPENDING ON CERTAIN UNKNOWNS AND LOOKING AT AT A VARIABLE PRICE POSSIBILITY BASED ON THE PROGRAMING REQUIREMENTS. AGAIN, THIS IS BASED OFF OF THE FEASIBILITY FINDINGS. IT IS NOT LOOKED AT IN TERMS OF VALUE ENGINEERING, BUDGET REDUCTION, COST REDUCTION OPTIONS. SO THIS IS JUST A STARTING POINT. SO ALL OF THAT THE EVALUATION OF THE QUALITATIVE QUANTITATIVE DATA LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY INPUT, LOOKING AT THE VISION AND THE GOALS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND AGAIN THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. WE DEVELOPED A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT IS POSSIBLE IN THAT REALM AND WHAT WOULD ADDRESS ALL OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HEARD SPOKEN. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE, THE SITE PLAN HERE, WE'RE SHOWING A SITE PLAN OF APPROXIMATELY 7.3 ACRES. THIS ALSO HAS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, BUT IN THIS DESIGN IT ALLOWS US FOR THE FUTURE EXPANSION OR A FLEXIBILITY OF DESIGN AS DETERMINED DURING THE NEXT PHASE, DEPENDING ON THE CAPACITY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED. IT ALSO ALLOWS US A WALKING TRAIL IN THIS SPACE WHICH WE WANTED TO PROVIDE, SEPARATED FROM THE PUBLIC SO THAT SHELTER ANIMALS COULD BE WALKED THROUGH THE SPACE WITHOUT HAVING TO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC, CREATING POTENTIAL REACTIVITY OR NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS. THIS SITE ALSO ALLOWS US TO PULL TRAFFIC OFF OF DAISY LANE ONTO SUNFLOWER, WHICH GIVES US TWO POTENTIAL ENTRY POINTS ONE FOR THE PUBLIC, WHICH PROVIDES A LOT OF VISIBILITY FOR OUR PUBLIC ENTRANCES, AND THEN A SEPARATED STAFF ENTRANCE, WHICH PROVIDES US WITH SEPARATED SECURITY, AS WELL AS A BACK OF HOUSE THAT CAN PULL VISIBILITY OF THOSE FUNCTIONS OFF FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW. SO THIS WAS THE CONCEPTUAL SITE OR THE CONCEPTUAL BUILDING PLAN. WE ARRIVED AT APPROXIMATELY 25,000FT■!S AS A CONDITIONED AR. AND THAT'S NOT COUNTING AN UNCONDITIONED SALLYPORT THAT WE HAVE OFF TO THE SIDE THAT ALLOWS FOR VEHICULAR INTAKE AND A SECURE ENVIRONMENT. THESE ANIMAL COUNTS HERE, 41 AND 36, WHICH WERE REFERENCED EARLIER, DON'T INCLUDE QUARANTINE OR MEDICAL ISOLATION, NOR DO THEY INCLUDE MEDICAL HOLDING, WHICH MIGHT BE PRE-OP OR POST-OP. THESE ARE INTAKE, INTAKE HOLDING, FLEXIBLE HOLDING AND ADOPTION HOLDING

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WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SEPARATE ENTRANCES FOR INTAKE AND ADOPTION TO CREATE THAT SEPARATION, BUT MAKE IT CLEARLY VISIBLE THAT THIS IS FOR THE ADOPTION. THIS IS FOR INTAKE, SO THAT IT WAS A CLEAR WAYFINDING. WE ALSO ALONG THAT PAW PATH, PAW PRINT PATH ALONG THE SIDE, IT PULLS US BACK TO THE COMMUNITY SPACE. SO THERE'S THREE SEPARATE WAYS TO ENTER THE BUILDING. AND I FEEL LIKE THE WAYFINDING HERE IS ESSENTIAL TO THE COMMUNITY'S ACCESS TO THIS SPACE. THIS IS THE VIEW FROM DAISY LANE. SO THIS WOULD BE THAT FRONTAGE ON DAISY LANE THAT CREATES A LOT OF VISIBILITY. WE THOUGHT IT WAS ESSENTIAL TO MAKE THE BUILDING HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE MAIN FRONTAGE, SO THAT PEOPLE KNEW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE GOING. THEY SEE THE BUILDING BEFORE THEY ARRIVE. THIS IS THE MAIN ADOPTION ENTRY. THE GOAL HERE IN THE DISCUSSION THROUGH VISIONING WAS TO CREATE A SPACE THAT FITS INTO THE FABRIC OF KYLE, INTO THE MATERIALS AND THE ESTHETIC OF THE CITY, BUT ALSO IS SOMETHING THAT IS MODERN AND NOT ONLY MODERN, BUT WARM AND WELCOMING. AND WE WANTED TO CREATE A SPACE THAT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO BE. THAT HAD A PLAYFUL JOY IN THE SPACE. AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE PAW PRINTS LEADING YOU BACK TO THE COMMUNITY SPACE ON THE RIGHT. THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT ADOPTION ENTRY. AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHILDREN POINTING AT THE CATIO. THAT'S THE SPACE WHERE THE OUTDOOR CAT SPACE, SO THEY CAN INTERACT WITH THE ANIMALS THAT ARE LOUNGING IN THE SUN.

AND THIS IS OFF TO THE OTHER SIDE, AGAIN, QUITE VISIBLE WITH THE INTAKE ENTRY. BUT WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PRIVATE SPACE, A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTED. THE SPACE IS STILL PUBLIC, BUT IT HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCESSING THIS ARE ACCESSING FOR A DIFFERENT REASON. SO WE WANT TO MAKE A VERY CLEAR SEPARATION, BUT NOT MINIMIZE THE FUNCTION THERE. AND THEN FINALLY, THIS IS THE SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY ROOM WHERE WE HAVE THAT VISIBILITY OFF OF DAISY LANE. THE COMMUNITY ROOM ITSELF IS INSIDE THE BUILDING, BUT HAS AN EXTERIOR SPACE TO ALLOW OVERFLOW FOR LARGE FUNCTIONS. THIS IS A SPACE FOR THE STAFF. IT'S A STAFF TRAINING SPACE. IT'S A VOLUNTEER TRAINING SPACE, BUT IT'S ALSO A SPACE FOR PUBLIC AMENITIES SERVICES TO THE PUBLIC. PROVIDING BRINGING IN LOCAL NONPROFITS TO PROVIDE LOW COST VETERINARY CARE BY PROVIDING THIS KIND OF INDOOR OUTDOOR SPACE AND ENJOYFUL AREA, IT ALLOWS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AND SHOWS THAT THIS FACILITY IS A FACILITY NOT ONLY FOR THE ANIMALS OF KYLE, BUT ALSO FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE? JUST REAL QUICK. BEFORE WE FINISH UP, I WANT TO THANK KIM AND HER TEAM. THEY'VE JUST BEEN A JOY TO WORK WITH. THEY'VE BEEN JUST TREMENDOUSLY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND JUST THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING AND THE FULL FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE ENTIRE GLOSSARY BEHIND IT, INCLUDING FORMULAS AND HOW EVERYTHING IS ON THE WEBSITE. IT'S CONNECTED TO THE PACKET AS WELL. I ALSO WANT TO THANK BRIANNA AND HER TEAM, OUR ANIMAL SERVICES TEAM HERE IN KYLE. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. SO WE'RE MOVING FULL SPEED AHEAD. THIS IS THE AUGUST 5TH FULL FEASIBILITY PRESENTATION. AND THEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, SEPTEMBER OCTOBER TIME FRAME, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT INTO A DESIGN CONTRACT, GET IT BEFORE COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN START MOVING INTO FULL DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT.

BECAUSE AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE ON A TIME CLOCK FOR THIS. SO OUR OUR LONG TERM GOAL IS TO HAVE FULL DESIGN COMPLETED IN 2026 AND START CONSTRUCTION BE COMPLETED IN 2027. HAVE IT OPEN AND OPERATING NOW. I WILL POINT OUT THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. WE HAVE SEVERAL.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME TONIGHT ON A SEPARATE ITEM. WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THOSE AND NEGOTIATING THOSE AS WE MOVE INTO DESIGN, WHICH IS THE PERFECT TIME TO BE IN NEGOTIATION BECAUSE AS WE HAVE ALL OF THE FEASIBILITY STATS FOR THE CITY OF KYLE ITSELF, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DESIGN A BUILDING AND THEN COME BACK AND TAKE ON PARTNERS. SO ANY PARTNERS THAT WE TAKE ON, THE AMOUNT OF INTAKE THAT WE NEED WILL ALSO BE CONTEMPLATED AS WE GO INTO FULL DESIGN, SO THAT WHEN WE FINALLY HAVE A FULL DESIGN, IT WILL BE WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AND THE BUILDING WILL BE RIGHT SIZED FOR THE FUTURE. BUT WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. JESSE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JESSE OR THE PRESENTER? NO. JUST WANTED TO JUST REITERATE THIS IS THIS IS NOT A WANT. THIS IS A NEED. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC IS KNOWING THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO BE PUSHED OUT OF THE SAN MARCOS SHELTER. SO KNOWING THAT WE'RE ON A CRUNCH AND A TIMELINE, I LOVE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT STAFF HAS PUT INTO THIS IN THE SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK DILIGENCE. JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE

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YOU HAVE AN ALL IN ONE KIND OF AREA WHERE PEOPLE WOULD GET WHAT THEY NEED, THE PETS WOULD GET WHAT THEY NEED, AND THERE'D BE MORE ADOPTIONS, BUT ALSO MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVED. AND THEY WOULD PARTICIPATE MORE. SO I THINK Y'ALL Y'ALL CAPTURED EVERYTHING. I'M REALLY WAS SURPRISED AND REALLY SATISFIED WITH THIS PRESENTATION. APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. AND AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT ADDING SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

[VI) Consent Agenda]

[VII) Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR WE WERE GOING ON THIS, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN, JUST LOOKING AT THE RIGHT OF WAYS, MAKING SURE WE STAY WITHIN OUR RIGHT OF WAYS, IF THERE'S ANY PROPERTY ACQUISITION, MAKE SURE WE HIGHLIGHT THAT EARLY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTACT EVERYBODY EARLY ON ON THIS PROCESS. IT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ON THIS. AND ANY INFORMATION GIVE ME ON THAT WOULD BE GREAT. ABSOLUTELY. COUNCIL MEMBER, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO GET OUT AND NOTIFY PROPERTY OWNERS AS WE IDENTIFY ANY, ANY EASEMENTS, ANY PARCELS THAT ARE IN QUESTION. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT IS FOR ADDITIONAL UTILITY COORDINATION THAT'S NEEDED, PARTICULARLY FOR COORDINATION. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON GETTING EASEMENTS IDENTIFIED, BOTH FOR THE ON SYSTEM AND OFF SYSTEM PORTIONS OF CENTER STREET. SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL. AND WE'LL BE REACHING OUT. AND JUST KEEP IN MIND HISTORICAL AREAS IN THE TOWN, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE STEPS THAT ARE IMPORTANT AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY COOL. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA NUMBER THREE. SIX. I'M SORRY. SIX SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN RIZZO, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM. WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0.

[29) Hold a public hearing to receive comments on the Program Year (PY) 2025 Annual Action Plan for the Community Development Block Grant Program as required by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. ]

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OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN PULL AGENDA ITEM 42. IS THAT GOOD. LEAVE IT OPEN I GUESS ANY WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEEING NONE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THE CDBG ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT ME TO CLOSE IT AND THEN GO TO 42? WELL, LET'S I WANT TO KEEP I WANT TO KEEP GOING IN ORDER. I WANTED TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GET THROUGH THE BOND COUNCIL ITEMS IN PARTICULAR, AND OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE AHEAD. IF THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL JUST KEEP GOING AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT ITEM SEPARATELY. 42 CAN BE DONE SEPARATELY. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO COME SPEAK. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

[30) Consider approval of a resolution authorizing a memorandum of understanding between the City of Kyle and Hays County for a collaborative partnership project at Kyle Vista property.]

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF HAYS COUNTY FOR A COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP PROJECT AT CAL VISTA PROPERTY.

DO WE LOSE? JUST A LITTLE QUICKLY. AND WE'RE TRYING TO. FIGURE OUT. ALL RIGHT, I WENT FASTER THAN I THOUGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE'RE EXCITED TONIGHT TO BRING YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING YOU A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR WHAT WE JUST PRESENTED A FEW MINUTES AGO, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER THINGS. SO THE QUICK HISTORY ON THIS ITEM, FOR ANYONE WATCHING AND FOR THE COUNCIL IS INTERNALLY, STAFF WAS WORKING ON SEVERAL PROJECTS. THREE, TO BE SPECIFIC. THEY WERE ALL CENTERED AROUND THE CAL VISTA PROPERTY. AND AS WE START AND A COUPLE OF THEM WERE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE WERE WORKING ON WITH THE COUNTY. AND AS WE STARTED TO LOOK AT ALL THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER AND PIECE THEM ALL TOGETHER, WE STARTED TO BUILD THEM IN AS ONE PROJECT. AND AS WE AS WE STARTED TO LOOK AT ALL THESE AS ONE PROJECT, WE REALIZED THAT IN ONE LARGE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY AND ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, EVERY PIECE OF IT COULD BE ENHANCED AND YOU COULD GET A GREATER PRODUCT AND A GREATER BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC WHEN ALL PUT TOGETHER. SO THAT'S THAT WAS REALLY THE HISTORY BEHIND ALL OF THESE PROJECTS COMING TOGETHER. I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE THREE SEPARATE PROJECTS QUICKLY, AND THEN SOME DEAL POINTS AND THEN TAKE SOME QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. SO FOR ANYONE WATCHING, I KNOW, I KNOW, COUNCIL IS VERY AWARE OF WHERE THE CAL VISTA PROPERTY IS, BUT FOR ANYONE WATCHING THAT MAY NOT KNOW, THIS IS THE LOCATION AND THE GREATER HAYS COUNTY AREA. AND THEN IF WE ZOOM IN TO THE CAL AREA, IT'S JUST EAST OF 35 DOWN BEEBE AND DAISY. WE SAW IT ON THE IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AS WELL. AND THAT SITE ABOUT LAST YEAR, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE HAD A THIRD PARTY LOOK AT THIS SITE, JUST AN OVERALL ASSESSMENT OF THE SITE AND GET SOME SOME TOPOGRAPHY AND GEOLOGY OF THE SITE. AND RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST GREENFIELD. YOU CAN SEE PICTURES OF IT RIGHT THERE. BUT THAT COMPANY'S ASSESSMENT OF THIS SITE IS ABOUT 30 ACRES, IS THAT IT REPRESENTS A PRIME LOCATION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF ANY SORT, INCLUDING VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THEY SAID IT'S TRULY A BEAUTIFUL SITE COUPLED WITH HIGHLY PLEASING VIEW LINES. AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN OUT THERE AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THIS SITE VERY WELL, IT IS. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SITE AND THE VIEW FROM THERE IS VERY NICE. SO THE FIRST SECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OF THIS, OF THIS KIND OF THREE PRONGED PROJECT, IS WHAT CAME OUT OF OUR RECENTLY ADOPTED PROS MASTER PLAN. SO THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF WHAT A PARK ON THE CAL VISTA PROPERTY COULD LOOK LIKE. THIS INCORPORATED ELEMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED IN OUR PARK SYSTEM. SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD POINT OUT A REGIONAL DOG PARK DOWN THERE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT THAT'LL COME INTO PLAY IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN ALSO SOME AN ACTUAL INDOOR FACILITY AND SOME MULTI-USE SPORTS FIELDS THAT ARE IN THE TOP NORTHEAST SECTION OF THAT SITE. BUT THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS NOT CONTEMPLATED IN OUR FIVE YEAR CIP. SO THAT MEANS WHILE WE MAY, AFTER FIVE PLUS YEARS, PUT SOME SORT OF AMENITIES OR SOME SORT OF PARK ON THIS SITE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PLANS OR ANY MONEY ALLOCATED TO PUT ANYTHING DOWN ON THIS SITE FROM IN THE TERMS OF A PARK OR TRAILS OR OPEN SPACES, GREEN SPACES OR PARK AMENITIES. THE SECOND PORTION OF THIS WAS A WAS A PROJECT WE WERE WORKING ON WITH THE COUNTY, WHICH WAS THAT SOUTHWEST. LET ME MAKE SURE YOU GOT SOUTHWEST PORTION, WHICH IS ABOUT 13 ACRES. IT'S A 13 ACRE SITE, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT A

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THERE'S A DIFFERENT ANGLE LOOKING FROM BEEBE. AND THEN THE THIRD ELEMENT OF THIS PARTNERSHIP IS RELATED TO THE ANIMAL CARE CENTER. AND THIS IS AS COMES AS NO SURPRISE TO ANYONE, I THINK. BUT JUST AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY A COUPLE ITEMS AGO, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH HAYS COUNTY AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FROM A REGIONAL STANDPOINT, INTAKE IN OUR AREA. I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS WE LOOKED AT AS PART OF OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE LOOKED AT NOT ONLY THE CITY OF KYLE AREA, BUT WE LOOKED AT WHAT THE INTAKE IS FROM A DATA ANALYSIS AND NUMBERS STANDPOINT IN THE GREATER CAL AREA. SO OUR ETJ AND OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA, NOT THE ENTIRE HAYS COUNTY REGION, BUT JUST OUR AREA OUTSIDE THE CITY. AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL SURPRISE ANYONE THAT IT'S WE ARE ABOUT 70% PLUS 70 PLUS PERCENT OF THE COUNTY'S INTAKE JUST ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY OF KYLE. SO WE'RE WE ARE A VERY HEAVY HOTBED OF INTAKE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY. SO IF WE'RE JUST TALKING THE CITY, THE NUMBERS AREN'T THAT TREMENDOUS. BUT JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY, WE HAVE A LARGE PORTION OF THE COUNTY. SO WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE COUNTY, IT REPRESENTS A LARGE PORTION OF WHAT WE WOULD BE TAKING IN FROM THE COUNTY. SO WE JUST SAW THIS.

I'LL SKIP THROUGH IT AND CONCEPTS. SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT FROM A PARTNERSHIP STANDPOINT AND FROM AN MOU STANDPOINT WAS WHAT IF WE PUT ALL OF THESE TOGETHER. THEY'RE ALL CONTEMPLATED ON THE SAME SITE AND CAL VISTA PROPERTY. AND WE HAD SOME DEAL POINTS. BUT ESSENTIALLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A HAYS COUNTY ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING ON THE SOUTHWEST REGION, THE WHAT YOU JUST SAW IN TWO ITEMS AGO, WHICH WOULD BE THE ANIMAL SHELTER ON THAT SOUTHEAST REGION OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN A BUILD OUT ON THE REST OF THE PROPERTY OF A CAL VISTA PARK WITH PARK AMENITIES AND TRAILS THAT COMPLEMENTS EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON TO THAT PROPERTY. AND SO AS WE STARTED LOOKING AT THAT AND MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, WE STARTED PUTTING TOGETHER THIS MOU. SO WE'LL TALK DEAL POINTS NOW ON THESE SPECIFIC THINGS. SO THE DEAL POINTS FOR THE COUNTY BUILDING WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD LEASE THAT LAND TO THE COUNTY. THEY WOULD TAKE THAT LAND, AND THEY WOULD BUILD AN ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING ON IT THAT WOULD BENEFIT BOTH COUNTY RESIDENTS AND CAL RESIDENTS AND HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE, VALUABLE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES FOR THE COUNTY. AND FOR KYLE, RIGHT THERE ON A ON AN EASY TO ACCESS LOCATION. AND ON TOP OF THAT, THEY WOULD THEY WOULD GIVE THE CITY OF KYLE A PAYMENT FOR THAT LAND AND A PAYMENT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY COST OF LOSING THAT LAND, WHICH WE HAVE CONTEMPLATED AT $3,750,000. AND THE CITY WOULD THEN IN THIS MOU, TAKE THAT $3 MILLION AND INVEST IT RIGHT BACK INTO THAT KYLE PROPERTY. FOR ALL OF THE PARK ELEMENTS, TRAIL ELEMENTS, OPEN SPACES THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED IN THAT ADOPTED PROS MASTER PLAN.

SO THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE A BUILDING THAT THEY WOULD BUILD AND THEY WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT AS WELL AS KYLE RESIDENTS. AND WE WOULD HAVE FUNDING FOR A PARK ON THE KYLE VISTA PROPERTY THAT CURRENTLY IS NOT CONTEMPLATED IN OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN. ON TOP OF THAT, BASED ON OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY, I WILL I WILL SAY THAT THE TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT ARE COMING IN FROM FROM OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WOULD BE COMING IN FROM THE COUNTY. THEY THEY REQUIRE LONGER LENGTHS OF STAY AND HIGHER LEVELS OF CARE THAN ANIMALS. THAT THAT WOULD BE PICKED UP HERE IN THE CITY OF KYLE AND THE INTAKE NUMBERS WOULD INCREASE WHAT THE CITY OF KYLE WOULD BE INTAKE INTAKE AND NOT FOR THE ENTIRE HAYS COUNTY REGION, BUT JUST FOR THE REGION OUTSIDE OF KYLE, IT WOULD BE ABOUT A 2.7 TIMES INCREASE OF WHAT WE'RE TAKING IN FROM THAT DESIGNATED SERVICE AREA. SO THAT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TREMENDOUS JUMP FROM WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IF WE WERE JUST TAKING ANIMALS IN TO OUR CARE FACILITY HERE IN KYLE. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH THE COUNTY THAT THEIR COST MULTIPLIER FOR JOINING OUR ANIMAL CARE CENTER WOULD BE ABOUT A 4.4 TIMES MULTIPLIER, MEANING THEY WOULD PAY ABOUT 66.98% OF THAT CAPITAL COST FOR THE BUILDING. SO WHATEVER THE BUILDING COST IS TO RAISE AND THE RIGHT SIZE OF THAT BUILDING AND MAKE SURE IT HAS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO INTAKE ALL OF THOSE ANIMALS. THEY'D BE PAYING JUST ABOUT 67% OF THAT COST. THEN WITH THAT COMES A LARGE OPERATIONAL INCREASE ON OUR COST, BECAUSE THE TYPES OF ANIMALS THAT ARE COMING IN, THE TYPES OF THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES WE WOULD NEED TO HIRE AND THE TYPES OF SERVICES WE WOULD NEED WOULD INCREASE. AND SO THAT

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OBVIOUSLY, IF THEIR INTAKE NUMBERS WENT DOWN, THEN THEY WOULD PAY BASED ON THAT. I WILL SAY THAT AS A CAVEAT. THIS IS A CITY OF KYLE FACILITY. SO WHILE THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CAPITAL COSTS AND THE OPERATION, THIS THIS FACILITY WOULD BE WHOLLY OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY OF KYLE, AS WOULD OPERATIONS AND PROGRAMING AND POLICY COMPLIANCE AND ALL OVERSIGHT. SO THESE WOULD BE CITY OF KYLE EMPLOYEES. THIS WOULD BE A CITY OF KYLE FACILITY AND IT WOULD BE RUN. WE WOULD ALSO HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD THAT THE COUNTY WOULD SIT ON, AND ANY OTHER PARTNERS WOULD SIT ON. OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD GET A LOT OF INPUT FROM THAT BOARD ON POLICY AND ON PROGRAMING, AND THAT WOULD RUN THROUGH COUNCIL. SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF INPUT FROM OUR PARTNERS. BUT THIS FACILITY WOULD BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CITY OF KYLE. SO I WON'T I WON'T RUN THROUGH ALL OF THESE. BUT FROM A COMPLETE PROJECT OVERVIEW, WE TRULY SEE THIS AS A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT NOT ONLY TO OUR HAYS COUNTY PARTNER, BUT ALSO TO THE CITY OF KYLE AND PUTTING ALL OF THESE TOGETHER. THE MOU TONIGHT OUTLINES ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THESE DIFFERENT DEAL POINTS THAT WE WALK THROUGH. IT'S NON-BINDING. OUR NEXT STEPS THAT WE ARE CONTEMPLATING ARE THAT WE WOULD TAKE THIS MOU TO THE COUNTY. THEY WOULD THEY WOULD APPROVE IT AND SIGN IT IF THEY AGREE WITH ALL THE TERMS. SO BOTH SIDES WOULD HAVE SIGNED IT. AND THEN AS WE MOVE INTO FULL DESIGN FOR THE ANIMAL CARE FACILITY AND AS WE WORK OUT THE DEAL WITH THE LEASE AND THE PAYMENT FOR THE FOR THE PARK, ALL OF THAT WOULD COME AS SEPARATE ILAS TO THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THEIR PORTION WOULD BE PAID FOR THE DESIGN AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR DESIGN. AND THEN WHEN WE COME WITH CONSTRUCTION, THEIR PORTION WILL BE PAID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO IT WOULD BE SEPARATE AGREEMENTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. BUT THIS MOU REALLY STARTS THAT PROCESS AND IS KIND OF ALL THE PLAYERS SAY THAT WE'RE IN, AND THESE ARE THE DEAL POINTS THAT WE AGREE WITH.

THAT'S MY PRESENTATION. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. ELIZONDO. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, THIS THIS IS IN IN DISTRICT SIX RIGHT OVER THERE BY CHAPEL MIDDLE SCHOOL. FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHERE THAT OPEN LAND IS. SO JUST SOME QUICK FOLLOW UPS. YOU SAID WE'RE WORKING WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS ON THAT. DO YOU KNOW WHO THE PEOPLE ARE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING, THAT YOU'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH? WE, THE CITY MANAGER AND I, WE BOTH TOOK THE AGREEMENT AND THE DEAL POINTS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN THEIR EXECUTIVE SESSION AND DISCUSSED IT WITH THEM. OKAY. AND SO DO THEY HAVE ANY, I GUESS A RUNDOWN OF YOU SAID 70% OF THE COUNTY INTAKE IS WITHIN THAT AREA. SO THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE. WHAT WAS THEIR REASONING? OR IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE COUNTY HERE TO OFFICIALLY TELL US THE REASONING WHY THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT THAT FACILITY THERE? WHAT KIND OF OFFICES WILL THEY BE HOLDING? WHAT KIND OF SERVICES WOULD THEY BE PROVIDING FOR RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA? WELL, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE COUNTY. I KNOW THEY WERE ADMINISTRATIVE, I DON'T. SO JUST REAL QUICK, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WAS WATCHING THE COMMISSIONERS COURT MEETING TODAY. THEY TALKED ABOUT THE EXPANDING THE PRECINCT TWO OFFICE, HAVING, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO DO REGISTRATION. IF YOU GO TO THE REGISTRATION RIGHT NOW, THE LINES ARE CRAZY. YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE. BUT IT'S STILL A LONG PROCESS. BUT HAVING THOSE SERVICES, HAVING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND MANY OTHER OFFICES COMING TO THE COUNTY, IN ESSENCE, IT'S ANOTHER COUNTY OFFICE WITH A LOT OF, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, RESOURCES FOR OUR RESIDENTS ON THE EAST SIDE THAT ARE LACKING. SO AS JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S OPENING UP THAT PRECINCT TWO OFFICE, HAVING PROBABLY ANOTHER CONSTABLE'S OFFICE AND ALSO THE COURT SERVICES AS WELL, BECAUSE THE COURTROOM THEY'RE IN RIGHT NOW IS REAL, REAL SMALL. SO IT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT TODAY IN THE MEETING. OKAY. WELL, I JUST WAS CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY HERE THAT COULD ADDRESS THAT FROM THE COUNTY LEVEL. BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE TODAY, SO I GUESS SO I WANTED TO REALLY HEAR FROM THEM SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO PARTNER UP WITH THEM AS WELL. OKAY. SO THE NEXT THING WOULD BE IS THIS WOULD BE STILL A CITY FACILITY AS FAR AS WE WOULD STILL OWN THE LAND. CORRECT. WE'RE JUST GOING TO LEASE IT OUT

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AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE FACILITY RUN, OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE STAFF, CITY STAFF AND SO FORTH.

I GUESS GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION OF IT'S GOING TO BE COUNTY WIDE TO BE ABLE TO INTAKE THESE ANIMALS, OR IS THIS GOING TO BE WITHIN THE CITY OF KYLE? NO, SIR. NO, IT WILL NOT BE COUNTYWIDE. THAT IS, I CAN SHOW YOU. I HAD A HIDDEN SLIDE ON HERE. I CAN SHOW YOU. THIS IS THE AREAS RIGHT HERE THAT WE WERE CONTEMPLATING AS FAR AS INTAKE. IT HASN'T BEEN DRAWN UP OFFICIALLY. IT WILL WHEN WE WHEN WE HAVE A FULL ILA WITH THE COUNTY. BUT IN DISCUSSION WITH THEM, WE WERE ESSENTIALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF HAYS COUNTY, WHICH HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THEIR INTAKE. BUT NO, WE'RE NOT CONTEMPLATING A REGIONAL SHELTER. OKAY. AND THE LAST THING WOULD BE IS IF WHEN WE START LOOKING AT ANY KIND OF DESIGN CONCEPTS, IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WOULD WE CONSIDER MAYBE DOING A TASK FORCE TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE IDEAS TO GO ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR THIS AREA, FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF, FOR THE PARK ITSELF, AND ALSO FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER AS A COMBINATION? MAYBE IF WE HAVE IF WE DESIGN A TASK FORCE MADE UP WITH SOME OF THE COUNTY OFFICIALS, PEOPLE IN THE CITY, WHEN WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, WE CAN ALSO OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS, THE PARKS, THE BUILDING, AND ALSO WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER TOGETHER. WOULD

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CORRECT. COUNCILOR DAVIS, JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN INPUT, WHOEVER ON THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE ON THAT TASK FORCE IS TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THE COUNTY'S NEEDS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE COUNTY'S IS APPROACHING US AS WELL. WE HAVE A NEED FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER. THEY HAVE A NEED TO SERVICE THE RESIDENTS FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW. SO AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT WINDOW OPEN AND WE CAN BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND OUR NEEDS AS WELL. IN THAT RETROSPECT, AND ALSO THE MAIN THING IS ALSO TO ENGAGE MORE INTO THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE IT'S HEAVY, POPULATED WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND. AND YOU DO HAVE A SCHOOL THAT'S THERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE, WE PARTNER UP AND DO IT RIGHT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE ARE AS MUCH TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. AND JUST LIKE WE DO WITH OUR PAST TASK FORCES, WE NOT ONLY JUST KIND OF LOOK AT CONCEPT DESIGNS, BUT WE INTERACT WITH WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND ALSO TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET THE FUNDING AS WELL. SO IF THE

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MARK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ON IT? SURE. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO BRING BACK RESOLUTIONS, AREN'T YOU? YES. ALL RIGHT. I'M BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. IT'S NOT POSTED TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL BRING IT BACK. YOU HEARKEN BACK TO THE OLD TASK FORCES. WE DIDN'T HADN'T CONCEIVED OF SUCH A THING, SO. ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS GOOD THEN. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOU. SECOND. SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR. SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU. CAN WE PUT THAT RESOLUTION ON CONSENT WITH THE WITH THE THREE

[31) (First and Final Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance authorizing the issuance of “City of Kyle, Texas General Obligation Bonds, Series 2025” in an amount not to exceed $45,900,000; levying a continuing direct annual ad valorem tax, within the limitations prescribed by law, for the payment of the bonds; authorizing the execution of any necessary engagement agreement with the City’s financial advisors; and providing for an effective date.]

MAYOR. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARK MCCLAIN WITH SAMCO CAPITAL MARKETS CITIES FINANCIAL ADVISOR STEPHANIE LIBBY WITH NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT RIGHT THERE. SHE MOVED SEATS. OF COURSE, YOUR BOND COUNCIL AND CAN HANDLE ANY OF THE LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT COME UP OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AT YOUR ALL'S DIRECTION. WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS TO GO OUT TO MARKET. AND TODAY THE FIRST ITEM IS ON THE GEO BONDS. SO A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND IN 2022 YOU ALL VOTED AS CITIZENS, VOTED $294 MILLION FOR THE STREET PROJECT. IN 2023, WE ISSUED $45 MILLION, LEAVING $249 MILLION LEFT FOR THE MAJOR STREET PROGRAM. IN ADDITION, AND IT'S NOT ON THIS SLIDE, WE HAD $7 MILLION LEFT FROM THE PARK. PROJECTS THAT WERE VOTED IN 2022, NO. 2020. AND SO WE WERE

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SENIOR MANAGER WAS RBC CAPITAL MARKETS. CO-MANAGERS WERE R.W. BAIRD, FROST BANK, AND PIPER SANDLER. SO WE HAD A LOCAL FROST BANK AND THEN NATIONAL FIRMS COVERING IT TO GET MORE EXPOSURE FOR THE CITY. THE PRICING WAS WENT VERY WELL. IT WAS OVERSUBSCRIBED FROM THE ORIGINAL PRICING. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE PRICED IT AT CERTAIN LEVELS EACH MATURITY. AND THEN IF IT'S OVERSUBSCRIBED, THEY LOWER THE INTEREST RATE ON EACH MATURITY UNTIL THEY LOSE ENOUGH SALES TO GET THE LOWEST POSSIBLE RATE FOR US. SO DEPENDING WHICH MATURITY WE HAD, IT DECREASED BY 1 TO 7 BASIS POINTS. AND WHEN IT WAS FINALLY COMPLETELY SOLD, WE WERE AT A 4.80%. COMBINED WITH THE CEOS, THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE CEOS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT ITEM, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE TAX RATE, TOTAL TAX RATE TO 59.588 FROM WHERE WE DISCUSSED BACK IN APRIL AND MAY AND JUNE OF 6171. SO NOT QUITE AS HIGH, WHILE STILL PAYING AN EXTRA $4 MILLION OF PRINCIPAL TO GET THE LONG TERM DEBT PAID DOWN. AND THAT SAVES US THAT LAST LINE, $3,550,000 OVER THE LIFE OF THAT BOND BY MAKING THAT $4 MILLION ADDITIONAL PRINCIPAL IN THE EARLIER YEARS. SO WE THOUGHT WE WERE MEETING AND EXCEEDING WHAT Y'ALL'S DIRECTION WAS FOR THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. THE BONDS WERE PRICED TODAY, IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WE WILL HAVE THE FUNDS IN THE BANK AUGUST 27TH. SO REQUESTED COUNT. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOND PROCESS, WHAT WE DID, WHAT THE FINAL RESULTS WERE AND HOW THE MARKET WAS IN RELATION TO KYLE BONDS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCLARNEY OR MISS LIBBY? COUNSELOR. YES. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, OF THE 604 MILLION, THE 294, IF APPROVED, WOULD BE THE INCREASE THAT WE HAD SEEN FOR THE YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS NOW WE'RE THE BONDS ARE NOW MATURED TO WHERE IT WILL BE NOW FINALLY DEPOSITED IN OUR ACCOUNT. WE'RE ISSUING ANOTHER I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. WE'RE ISSUING ANOTHER 38 MILLION APPROXIMATELY FOR STREET BONDS. THIS IS ADDITIONAL DEBT. AND THEY WILL BE PAID OFF OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. SO THERE'LL BE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS. SO IT'S ADDITIONAL DEBT THAT WE'RE ACCRUING WITH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUANCE AND THE ONE THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER IN THE NEXT ITEM. THERE'S ALSO ADDITIONAL DEBT IN THOSE ITEMS AS WELL. BUT THE BONDS ARE BEING ISSUED. IT'S A IT'S JUST DEBT AND THEY'RE ADDED ON. AND THEN WE PAY THOSE OFF OVER A 30 YEAR PERIOD. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT. WELL IT'S BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BEING AT THE 600 MILL RATE, THAT THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE INCREASE CORRECT FOR THAT. SO I WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR LAST YEAR WAS 3.9 FOR THIS YEAR IS 604 WITH THE 294 THAT WE GOT. PLUS THE ADDITIONAL IS THE REASON WHY THIS YEAR WE SEE A VERY LARGE NUMBER THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SEEING ON ON THE. YES SIR. IT'S PART OF THAT. IT'S THIS PLUS SOME OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING INCLUDED AS WELL. OKAY. THOSE ARE ALL CAPITAL RELATED ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT 600,000,406, 460 AND THE BUDGET ABOUT 460 MILLION IS THE ONE 3241 FOR THE WASTEWATER UTILITIES AND 30 MILLION ON THE PARKS. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT WE HAD FOR. AND WE TALKED ABOUT ON SATURDAY. I THINK IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT JUST FOR CLARITY, THE IF THIS ISSUANCE IS APPROVED THIS EVENING, THE TAX RATE WILL NEED TO GO TO THAT 59.

I FORGOT WHAT THE EXACT FIGURE. I KNOW WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE FINAL FIGURE 5960, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE TAX RATE WILL AT LEAST NEED TO GO TO THAT NUMBER TO MEET THE OBLIGATIONS OF THAT DEBT. WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET. YOU'LL HAVE SOME MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO

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CORRECT. SO MY POINT IS WITH THIS VOTE, BECAUSE OF THE 4 MILLION IN DEFEASANCE, YOU'RE SETTING IT TO, TO THIS PARTICULAR RATE. SO WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO COME IN UNDERNEATH WHAT THE VOTERS AUTHORIZED. CORRECT. WHEN THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE VOTE COMES HERE IN A MONTH OR TWO, YOU'LL STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY ON AUGUST. I BELIEVE IT'S AUGUST 19TH. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M INCORRECT ON THE DATES, BUT AUGUST 19TH THERE WILL BE A VOTE TO CONSIDER THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE. COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO SET THAT. AND THERE'S SOME TRUTH IN TAXATION REQUIREMENTS. AND I MAKING SURE I SAY ALL THESE CORRECTLY. SO STEPHANIE, IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN AND MAKE SURE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ON THAT AS WELL, IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING, I THINK IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE DONE THAT. NO, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE VOTERS AT THE TIME OF THE ELECTION WAS INFORMATIONAL. IT DIDN'T IN ANY WAY LIMIT COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO SET THE TAX RATE. SO THE 59 FIVE, EIGHT EIGHT, THAT'S THE NUMBERS THAT MARK AND PEREZ CALCULATED BASED ON MOST RECENT HAYS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT VALUATIONS. THERE'S STILL SOME ADDITIONAL CALCULATIONS THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING, SO THAT NUMBER MAY FLUCTUATE SLIGHTLY, BUT THAT IS AS OF TODAY, THE BEST ESTIMATE FOR WHERE THE TAX RATE WILL NEED TO BE SET FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR. BASED ON THE DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULES FOR BOTH THE BONDS AND THE CEOS THAT WERE ISSUED TODAY, AND THE $0.60 OR THE 59.99 THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE VOTERS AT THE TIME OF THE ELECTION PERTAINED ONLY TO THE TO THE TO THE ROAD BONDS. THIS 59.588 IS INCLUSIVE OF BOTH THE ROAD BONDS AND THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS. AND SO THAT WAS DEBT THAT WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED AT THE TIME THE ELECTION WAS HELD. BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO FINANCE THAT AND STILL STAY WITHIN THAT TAX RATE THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE VOTERS AT THAT TIME. SO JUST TO RECAP WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE IS THAT WE'RE WE WERE ABLE TO COMPILE MORE DEBT UNDER WITHOUT EVEN HITTING THE, THE $0.59. THAT WAS PART OF THE LANGUAGE FOR THE BOND. SO I'M TAKING THAT AS A POSITIVE THING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THIS ENTIRE PROCESS PRETTY WELL IS THAT I THINK IT IT IT HELPS WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING OUT WITH THE VOTERS, BECAUSE I THINK WE UNDERSTAND IT AND YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND IT. I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS TRULY UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION IN THAT TAX RATE BETWEEN WHAT WAS THE TAX RATE FOR THE BONDS AND WHAT'S THE TAX RATE FOR THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS, BECAUSE THEY JUST VIEW IT AS DEBT. BUT AGAIN, AT THE TIME OF THE NOVEMBER 2022 ELECTION, WE COMMUNICATED WHAT WE THOUGHT THE ESTIMATED TAX RATE WOULD BE TO SUPPORT THESE BONDS, TO SUPPORT THOSE ROAD BONDS. AND WE'VE COME AND ISSUED THE OR WE WILL ISSUE

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OKAY. WE'LL HAVE TO DO AGAIN NEXT YEAR OR WHENEVER YOU'RE SELLING BONDS. WHAT'S THE VALUATION DOING. WHAT'S THE INTEREST RATE IN THE MARKET. WHAT'S COS ARE YOU ISSUING IN ADDITION TO THE GEO THAT ARE VOTED. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AN ONGOING DRILL THAT COUNCIL STAFF AND US ARE GOING TO JUST HAVE TO KEEP WORKING THROUGH, AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP TRYING TO KEEP THAT TAX RATE AS LOW AS WE CAN. RIGHT. AND SO TO BE CLEAR, WE COULD HAVE WE COULD HAVE KEPT THE TAX RATE SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN THIS. BUT IF THE THERE'S A TRADE OFF IN THAT CHOICE AND THE TRADE OFF WAS INSTEAD OF BUILDING OUT THE ROADS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS CONCURRENTLY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND PLANNING TO BUILD CONCURRENTLY FOR YEARS NOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY STACK THEM UP SEQUENTIALLY. AND THAT THAT PUSHES PROJECTS OFF MANY, MANY YEARS AND ALSO CARRIES WITH IT THE POTENTIAL FOR THE PROJECTS TO BE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. SO COUNCIL, FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN A ROW NOW HAS MADE AFFIRMATIVE DECISIONS TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THESE PROJECTS IN MOTION. AND IT'S SAVING ON INTEREST, BUT ALSO THE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW ARE COMING IN UNDER BUDGET AS WELL. SO IT'S A IT'S FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, IT IS. IT IS, I WOULD SAY VERY WISE THE WAY THAT WE'RE HANDLING IT. AND WE HAVE WE HAD ONE JUST OPENED UP LAST WEEK. YES. WE HAD A BRAND NEW ROAD THAT JUST OPENED UP AND THE COLAS AND PROJECT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET. AND IF WE WERE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO WORK THE, THE, THE, THE RATE SEQUENTIALLY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN READY TO START. THEY'RE ALREADY PLOWING THE FIELDS. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MOTIONS? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 3130 OH 31. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M SORRY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY THAT WE APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 31. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF ECHO WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING. I MEAN, THIS IS A STRATEGIC WE'RE COMING IN UNDER WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN 2022. AND THESE ARE GEOS. SO MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO ISSUE FOR THESE ROADS THAT WE BUILT. AND TO THE POINT, MAYOR, I MEAN, WE'VE STAFFED UP OUR DEPARTMENT WITH TRANSPORTATION DIRECTORS, STAFF, YOU KNOW, TO HANDLE THESE PROJECTS AS THEY COME ONLINE. AND IT'S JUST YOU DON'T WANT TO ISSUE ALL THE BONDS AT ONE TIME.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST WOULD BE PAYING THE INTEREST. SO WE'RE DOING THIS VERY STRATEGICALLY.

SO THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE.

[32) (First and Final Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance authorizing the issuance of “City of Kyle, Texas Combination Tax and Limited Pledge Revenue Certificates of Obligation, Series 2025” in an amount not to exceed $79,050,000; providing for the payment of said certificates by the levy of an ad valorem tax upon all taxable property within the City and further securing said certificates by a lien on and pledge of the pledged revenues of the system; authorizing the execution of any necessary engagement agreement with the City’s financial advisors; and providing an effective date.]

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MOTION BY MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. WE APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 32. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP WE

[33) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance calling the General Election for City Council Districts One and Three on November 4, 2025.]

THE APPLICATION PERIOD FOR PLACE ON THE BALLOT HAS ALREADY OPENE, AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR PLACE ON THE BALLOT UNTIL 5 P.M. ON AUGUST 18TH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A DRAWING OF THE NAMES FOR ORDER ON BALLOT ON AUGUST 21ST, AND THE RUNOFF WILL BE ON DECEMBER 13TH, 2025, IF IT'S NECESSARY. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD MOTIONS. MOTION TO APPROVE AS READ SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY COUNCILOR SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM. WE APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 33. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0.

[34) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance calling a Special Election for the Mayor and for City Council District Two to be held on November 4, 2025 to fill unexpired terms.]

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MOTION BY MAYOR. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, THAT WE APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM 34. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. DO WE NEED TO HAVE FINAL PASSAGE ON THESE? OR IF WE CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THAT, WE CAN DO FINAL ON BOTH OF THOSE. THAT'D BE GREAT. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO FINALLY PASSING AGENDA ITEMS? 33 AND 34 SEEING NONE. AGENDA ITEMS ARE FINALLY PASSED. NEXT UP IS

[35) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance ordering a Special Election to be held on the question of adoption of amendments to the Charter of the City of Kyle (Propositions A-Q) and designating November 4, 2025 as the date of the special election. Public Hearing ]

1219 THE FIRST APPLICANT. THAT OR NO. 1219 IS COUNCILMEMBER BRADSHAW'S LAST MEETING ON 1228, NINE DAYS AFTER HER LAST MEETING, THE FIRST APPLICANT APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED BY THE CITY OF KYLE BY ASHLEY BRADSHAW. 20 DAYS LATER, ON JANUARY 8TH. THERE ARE INTERVIEWS. 22 DAYS LATER AFTER HER LAST DAY ON COUNCIL, JANUARY 10TH, THERE WAS AN APPLICANT BY THE NAME OF BRANDON COLEMAN WAS SENT AN EMAIL STATING THE POSITION WAS FILLED ON FEBRUARY 7TH. THE POSITION CLOSES ON HTML. THIS IS A MONTH AFTER THE POSITION WAS FILLED. I WANT TO DO A SIDE NOTE. IN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS THERE WERE 18 APPLICANTS RECEIVED BY THE CITY OF KYLE. ON THE LAST FOUR WEEKS FROM JANUARY 10TH TO FEBRUARY 7TH. NO FURTHER APPLICANTS WERE RECEIVED SO MYSTERIOUSLY FOR FOUR WEEKS. NOBODY APPLIED FOR THIS POSITION. ON FEBRUARY 14TH, H.R.

SENT AN OFFER OF $30.28 TO COUNCIL MEMBER BRADSHAW. THE EMAILS. THERE WERE EMAILS BACK AND FORTH STATING THAT THE SALARY SHOULD HAVE BEEN $33. ON FEBRUARY 15TH, 2024, THE JOB WAS ACCEPTED. AS ANOTHER NOTE, THE PROCESS FROM HIRING FROM HER LAST DAY TO HIRING THE POSITION STARTED ONE DAY BEFORE HER TIME WAS UP, AND IT WAS A TOTAL OF 48 DAYS FROM THE TIME THAT SHE GAVE UP HER SEAT UNTIL THE DAY THAT SHE WAS HIRED. WITH THIS KIND OF PERCEPTION, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF ENSURING THAT THE APPLICANTS

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THERE ARE A LOT OF POTENTIAL APPLICANTS. AS MISS FLORES KALE JUST DESCRIBED. THAT'S THE POTENTIAL FOR WHAT CAN GO WRONG. THAT'S A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. AND WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T CONTINUE. THIS THIS IS NOT YOU BEING PUNISHED. THIS IS LIKE A NON-COMPETE CLAUSE. THIS IS ABOUT ETHICS, TRANSPARENCY. AND IF YOU GUYS CAN'T SEE THAT, WE NEED TO FIND SOME NEW PEOPLE THAT CAN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DO YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS TO ADD? NOPE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I THINK YOU WENT THROUGH ALL THESE. ANY COMMENTS MOTIONS? CUSTOMER. ZUNIGA YEAH, I KNOW THAT WE DID DISCUSS THAT ONE. THE EMPLOYMENT ONE A LOT LAST TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, AND MY THOUGHTS WERE JUST THAT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A SIX MONTH OR ONE YEAR HOLDING PERIOD. THOSE ARE THAT'S MY OPINION. I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND BRINGING THAT ONE BACK TO FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE ON THE LIST. SO I NEED TO TAKE A VOTE FOR THAT. YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THAT BACK. IT WOULD BECAUSE IT WASN'T POSTED. I WOULD RECOMMEND BRINGING THAT BACK ON A SEPARATE DATE. I CAN DO THAT. OR IF Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, I'D LIKE TO. I MEAN, IF ANYBODY HAD ANY MORE THOUGHTS ON THAT, I HAD SOME THOUGHTS ON IT BECAUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY RECOMMENDATION. AGAIN, IT WAS NOT SO MUCH BEING THAT WE COULDN'T WORK FOR THE CITY FOR TWO YEARS. IT WAS JUST GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY WITHIN ONE YEAR AFTER COUNCIL. I THINK THERE ARE OTHER ENTITIES, SUCH AS COUNTY AND OTHER COMPANIES, THAT DO SOME KIND OF THE SAME KIND OF MODEL TO WHERE ONCE YOU LEAVE A JOB OR YOU RETIRE, YOU HAVE UP TO MAYBE 90 DAYS, OR I THINK IT'S UP TO SIX MONTHS BEFORE YOU CAN APPLY FOR A POSITION BACK INTO THE SAME DEPARTMENT OR AGENCY AND SO FORTH. I REALLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE YEARLY POSITIONS THAT ARE OPEN. SO IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE OPEN THAT I, LET'S SAY MYSELF, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, I WOULD JUST WAIT FOR THE YEAR TO GO BY AND I'D APPLY FOR IT. IT'S NOT SO MUCH WORKING AND GETTING THE JOB BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION, BUT I THINK IT JUST WOULD BE FAIR TO SHOW FOR FUTURE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THAT THIS WOULD BE AN OPTION FOR, FOR ALL OF US TO, TO HAVE TO, TO BASICALLY BREAK, BREAK THAT STIGMA OF, OF THAT ETHNIC BARRIER THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE WITHIN AND JUST GIVE, GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR OTHER PEOPLE ON THAT END. SO WITH THAT, MR. ZUNIGA, LIKE I SAID, I, I KNOW WE WERE GOING WITH TWO YEARS IS WHAT THE CHARTER COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU EVEN CAN TO APPLY OR TO GET A JOB WITH THE CITY. I WAS LOOKING AT IT MORE OF ONE YEAR TO ACTUALLY APPLY FOR A POSITION BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU COULD COULD NOT GET HIRED ON THAT END VERSUS NOT DOING IT AT ALL. SO YEAH, ALSO JUST TO SAY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US WOULD BE QUALIFIED FOR A POSITION HERE IN THE CITY. I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE SHOULD BE MAYBE, IN MY VIEW, A SIX MONTH PERIOD AFTER LEAVING OFFICE. BUT LIKE I SAID, I KNOW HOW QUALIFIED SOMETIMES

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WE'RE JUST MAKING IT RIGHT. WE'RE JUST MAKING IT AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD. THAT'S ALL IT IS, IN MY OPINION. ON THAT END, WE'RE NOT SAYING SHAME ON YOU FOR SERVING FOR SO MANY YEARS ON COUNCIL. YOU'RE NOT UNABLE TO WORK FOR THE CITY. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST BEING FAIR IN THAT SENSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE INSIGHT OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE MIGHT HAVE A FAIR, A BIGGER ADVANTAGE OF SOMEBODY COMING IN. AND THAT MAY BE WHAT THE, THE, THE ISSUE IS. BUT I JUST FEEL THAT IF WE DONE OUR TIME ON COUNCIL, WE'VE SERVED IT. AND IF WE ARE INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR THE CITY A POSITION, JUST GIVE IT ONE YEAR TO APPLY AND THEN GO FROM THERE. BUT I KNOW THAT THE REST OF COUNCIL MAY NOT LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S JUST MY FEEDBACK. WE ALL TOOK A VOTE ON THIS ONE ON AT THE WORKSHOP WHEN WE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING. SO IS THERE ANYBODY WHO VOTED? THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY VOTE MAYOR. IT WAS JUST A DISCUSSION. IT WAS JUST A DISCUSSION. OKAY, WELL DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER? SO REAL QUICK. REALLY THINKING ABOUT THIS ONE. AND I GUESS FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT NO PLANS OF EVER WORKING FOR THE CITY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW. SO I CAN DISCUSS THIS PRETTY FREELY. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, IT PROBABLY GIVES YOU LESS OF AN ADVANTAGE BEING ON COUNCIL. DOES THE CITY MANAGER REALLY WANT YOU TO WORK FOR HIM? I MEAN, THAT PROBABLY WOULD PUT HIM IN AN ODD PLACE, PUT YOU IN AN ODD PLACE. IT'D BE KIND OF. IT WOULD KIND OF BE WEIRD. IT'S LIKE A REVERSAL. RIGHT. AND WHAT THIS WHAT THIS COUNCIL MEMBER NOW BE A GOOD EMPLOYEE. RIGHT. BECAUSE OF THAT REASON, I LOOK AT THAT SOMETIMES. AND I DO LOOK AT THIS AS A ROLE OF SERVICE. RIGHT. WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. MY GUESS MY CONCERN WAS I STARTED THINKING ABOUT THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. IF WE DO IT NOW, ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THIS OVER TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION, SAY PEOPLE THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING IN OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE NOW GOING TO BE PUNISHED BECAUSE THEY SERVE THE CITY? I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, BUT IF WE'RE WANTING TO BRING THIS BACK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION, LOOK, I'M GOOD WITH HAVING A TIME PERIOD BETWEEN I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE PUNISHING SOMEONE FOR SERVING. THAT'S MY BIGGEST THING. IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A TIME, SOMEBODY HAS TO WAIT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. I JUST THE CONVERSATION SEEMED LIKE WE'RE PUNISHING PEOPLE FOR WANTING TO SERVE THEIR CITY, AND I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GO TO THAT CONVERSATION. AND THE WORD PUNISHMENT, I USE IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE. I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO WORK FOR THE CITY.

LIKE I TOLD YOU, I HAVE NO PLANS ON WORKING FOR THE CITY. BUT AFTER I LEAVE COUNCIL. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK ABOUT IS THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS EVERYWHERE ELSE. BECAUSE ONCE YOU START PULLING, PUTTING IN THESE PROCEDURES, WHERE DOES IT STOP? RIGHT? WHERE DO WE STOP? WE'RE WE'RE SEEING THAT RIGHT NOW AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. WHERE WHERE DOES IT STOP? RIGHT.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON THAT THEY MIGHT LOOK GOOD IN THE BEGINNING, BUT THEN WHERE DO THEY STOP? I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S A STOP TO IT, RIGHT? UNTIL IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY IN THEIR LIVES. SO I'M I'M GOOD WITH BRINGING IT BACK. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS, AND I CAN TELL YOU I'M NOT OPPOSED ON WAITING ON TIMES FOR YOU TO WORK ON THE CITY, BUT I JUST WORRY ABOUT IT. PUNISHING PEOPLE, THAT'S MY BIGGEST THING, PEOPLE WANTING TO SERVE. CUSTOMER MCKINNEY I WAS PRETTY VOCAL. YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME MY OPINION REALLY HASN'T CHANGED. I WILL SAY THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO CONSIDER A GAP IN BETWEEN, IT NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST ONE YEAR. THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE ALSO TRYING TO APPLY WITHIN THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY IT, YOU KNOW? AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST GIVING US THAT LEEWAY TO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT CONFLICT OF INTEREST. IT'S OUT OF THE WAY. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT WE'RE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT PUNISHING ANYBODY. WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT LET'S ALL FOLLOW THE RULE TO FOLLOW THE RULE OF WHAT THE CHARTER IS SAYING. WELL, THEY'RE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING, AGAIN, BRING IT BACK. THEY'RE RECOMMENDING TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN DO ANYTHING. AND THE CONVERSATION WITH THE DICE BEFORE IS THAT WE'RE PUNISHING PEOPLE. I THINK HERE I WAS MAKING A COMPROMISE TO SAY JUST TO GIVE IT TO WHERE WE JUST GIVE IT ONE YEAR BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY, WE VOTE ON THESE BUDGETS EVERY YEAR. AND LET'S SAY MY TERM IS UP IN NOVEMBER. BUT THEN AGAIN, I KNEW OF A POSITION OR I KNEW

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MICHAEL, YOUR COMMENTS OF MAKING IT AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD TO ME INSINUATES THAT IT'S UNEVEN AS IT CURRENTLY IS CONSTRUCTED. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT TO BE TRUE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ANY EVIDENCE OTHER THAN A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS WHO I THINK HAVE AN AX TO GRIND ON THIS TOPIC, ARE COMING FORWARD AND PUTTING PRESSURE ON VARIOUS PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S THE SPEAKING TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION OR SPEAKING IN FRONT OF US, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S GOING TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD BY CREATING A RESTRICTION. AND IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK LEVELS THE PLAYING FIELD, THEN THEN YOUR YOUR CURRENT BELIEF IS THAT IT'S NOT LEVEL NOW. OKAY. WELL ISN'T THAT THE SAME THING? WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE TERMS OF, OF COUNCIL TO BASICALLY MAKE IT EQUALLY TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE REPETITIVE TERMS ON THAT END. I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE, THE ASPECT OF ONCE WE ARE DONE WITH OUR SERVICE, IF WE ARE WANTING TO DECIDE TO BECOME NOW AN OFFICIAL EMPLOYEE, JUST IN THAT SENSE, TO JUST GIVE IT THAT ONE YEAR AGAIN, TWO YEARS VERSUS NOTHING VERSUS JUST ONE. SO I'M GOING IN BETWEEN ON THAT END AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT OPTICS, LOOKING AT FUTURE COUNCILS DOWN THE ROAD TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN INTO THESE KIND OF NOT ONLY RUN INTO THESE PROBLEMS AGAIN, BUT THERE ARE OTHER COMPANIES AND OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE THESE TYPES OF PROCESSES. THEY HAVE THESE TYPES OF LIMITATIONS AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE. AND SO WE'RE JUST HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, AND I AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT, MAYOR PRO TEM, I JUST WANT US TO BE ABLE TO THINK THOROUGHLY ON THIS, TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PUT ON THE CHARTER FOR THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE. AND IF THEY SAY NO, THEN WE DON'T DO IT AND IT FAILS. IT FAILS. MICHAEL, I THINK IF THAT'S YOUR BELIEF RIGHT NOW, THEN WE NEED TO BE HAVING A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION BY LOOKING AT FOURTH. HANG ON, HANG ON ONE SECOND. I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND FORTH ANYMORE UNTIL OTHER PEOPLE HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK WHO WANT TO SPEAK. SO IF THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK FIRST. I JUST HAD A QUICK POINT OF CLARITY ON COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS'S COMMENTS. THE TERM LIMITS WERE ALSO NOT INCLUDED IN THIS RECOMMENDATION AFTER THE DISCUSSION ON THE 24TH. OKAY, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A VOTE AND MOVE ON. I WILL SAY FOR MYSELF, I'LL BE TRANSPARENT. I THOUGHT THE TWO YEAR RULE APPLIED SIMILARLY TO COUNCIL MEMBERS IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO APPLY FOR JOBS.

AND SO I YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE THAT THAT WAS THE SITUATION UNTIL THE EMPLOYEE THAT WAS MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES IN GREAT DETAIL, WITH MORE INFORMATION THAN I EVEN KNEW WAS BROUGHT UP. SO FOR ME, IT IS IT SEEMS THAT THIS IS A REACTION TO THAT DECISION. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANTED TO HAVE POLICIES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED. MY, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER WAS NOT INVOLVED, THE CHIEF OF POLICE WAS NOT INVOLVED. A PANEL WAS PUT TOGETHER, APPLICATIONS WERE PRESENTED. IT WAS A GROUP DECISION MADE BY STAFF. AND SO IS THAT AN INAPPROPRIATE THING THAT HAPPENED? I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE THAT ARGUMENT OTHER THAN BY CONSTRUING, YOU KNOW, AN EMAIL CHAIN. SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT MAKING A DECISION THAT IS TRYING TO BE REACTIVE BASED ON A PROCESS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WAS EXTREMELY TRANSPARENT, COMPETITIVE AND FAIR BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS AND IMPRESSIONS. IN AN INTERVIEW. I WILL SAY IT'S PROBABLY A ONE OFF, AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF THIS PLAYING OUT IS I CAN SAY YES, AND I COULD ELABORATE. YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SCRUTINIZED COUNCIL MEMBERS CHOICES AFTER THEY LEAVE THE DAIS. YOU KNOW, I'VE TAKEN VOTES ON HUNDREDS OF CONTRACTS WITH HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES. AND IF I LEAVE AND HAVE EMPLOYMENT BY ANY OF THEM WHO I VOTED ON OVER THE LAST SOME NUMBER OF YEARS, YOU CAN BE CERTAIN THAT THERE WILL BE SCRUTINY ON THAT. THERE HAVE BEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE LEFT THE DAIS WHO HAVE GONE TO WORK FOR EMPLOYEES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY VOTED ON THOSE SERVICES AFTER THE EMPLOYEE, AFTER THE COUNCIL

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TOBIAS. NAY. MITCHELL. YES. MOTION CARRIES 5 TO 2. ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM

[36) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary a 0.0289 acre public utility easement (as described in exhibit “A” to the resolution) from certain real property owned by Government Employees Federal Credit Union for the public use and purpose of construction of public drainage and utility infrastructure improvements for the Bunton Creek Road Improvement Project. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

ALIGNMENT AND DESIGN FEATURES WERE APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY OF 2024. A TASK ORDER TO BGP TO COMPLETE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WAS APPROVED IN MARCH OF 2023, AND THE TASK ORDER TO PGE TO COMPLETE FINAL DESIGN WAS APPROVED IN APRIL OF 2024, AND THOSE ARE THE PROJECT LIMITS. TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE EASEMENTS NEEDED FOR THE ROADWAY. SURVEY WAS COMPLETED AND APPRAISAL WAS PERFORMED ON THE NEEDED TRACT. OUR PROPERTY INTERESTS HERE INCLUDE A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OF 0.0289 ACRES. IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT INCLUDE DRAINAGE AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY REFERS TO THE COUNCIL DETERMINING WHETHER THE CITY'S ACQUISITION OF AN INTEREST IN A SPECIFIC PIECE OF REAL PROPERTY, SUCH AS AN EASEMENT OR FEE. SIMPLE TITLE IS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE A PARTICULAR PUBLIC USE FOR THE PUBLIC'S CONVENIENCE, AND IN THIS SITUATION, THE PCN FINDS THAT THE BARTON CREEK ROAD PROJECT IS NECESSARY AND REQUIRED TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THE ACQUISITION OF THE IDENTIFIED PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. PROJECT. WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CITY ARE UNABLE TO REACH A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT, THE PCN AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO INITIATE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS, IF NECESSARY, TO ACQUIRE THE NEEDED PROPERTY, AND WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON

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YES. HARRIS. YES. YES AND. TOBIAS. YES, MA'AM. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP, AGENDA

[37) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary a 0.809 acre parcel of land in fee simple, a 0.297 acre public utility easement, and a temporary grading easement over a 0.005 acre parcel of land (as described in Exhibits “A,” “A-1,” and “A-2” to the resolution) from certain real property owned by 360 Old Stagecoach Retail LLC for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway, drainage, and utility infrastructure improvements for the Old Stagecoach Road North Roadway Improvement Project. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

OKAY, WE'RE ON OLD STAGECOACH ROAD WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE NEED. THOSE ARE THE PROJECT LIMITS. PROPERTY INTERESTS HERE INCLUDE FEE SIMPLE RIGHT OF WAY OF 0.809 ACRES, A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OF 0.297 ACRES, AND A TEMPORARY GRADING EASEMENT OF 0.005 ACRES.

AND IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT INCLUDE ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION, DRAINAGE, AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ASK THAT YOU APPROVE. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. SO THIS IS AGENDA ITEM 37. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY THE OLD STAGECOACH HISTORIC. WELL THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY. WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT HERE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, ORIGINAL PROPERTY OWNER, SAYING THAT WE WERE GOING TO PRESERVE THAT WELL, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT COACHING INTO THAT AREA AND MAKING SURE WE PRESERVE THE WELL IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. SO STAFF COULD FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET OUT THERE AND MEASURE THAT OUT, PLEASE. YES, SIR. WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE'RE SAYING IT'S A HISTORIC WELL CORRECT. WATER. WELL, CORRECT. OKAY. SIR, ARE YOU ON THE HISTORIC COUNTY COMMISSION? I AM OKAY. CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THROUGH WITH YOUR COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE IT IS A VERIFIED WELL, SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH THIS. IN THE FUTURE, I DEFINITELY WILL. I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH HISTORICAL COMMISSION, MAKE SURE I BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO STAFF. BUT THIS WAS A NEGOTIATED ON THE AGREEMENT FOR THE PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS REZONED. BUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN OFFICIAL MARKER, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE WE GET THAT DOCUMENTED FOR FUTURE RECORDS. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMEMBER ZUNIGA YEAH. AMBER DOES THIS RIGHT OF WAY. DOES THIS DOES THIS ALSO INCLUDE, I GUESS, THE FRANKIE PROPERTY WITH THE BURYING TREE? NO, SIR. THIS IS NOT ON THE FRANKIE PROPERTY. BUT IT IT IS. IT IS ON THAT SAME ROAD, ISN'T IT? IT'S ON THE SAME ROAD. YES, SIR. SO THAT PROPERTY WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HERE. CORRECT.

THIS IS NOT THE FRANKIE PROPERTY. OKAY. AND I AGREE WITH ROBERT. I MEAN, IF WE HAVE AN OLD HISTORIC. WELL, THERE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. YES, SIR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MAYOR? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 37. I'VE GOT TO READ IT OUT. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S OKAY. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE .809 ACRES OF LAND IN FEE. SIMPLE. A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OVER 0.297 ACRES, AND A TEMPORARY EASEMENT OVER 0.005 ACRES FROM PUBLIC PROPERTY OWNED BY 360 OLD STAGECOACH RETAIL LLC, IS DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 37 FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING AND OPERATING PUBLIC ROADWAY DRAINAGE AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE OLD STAGECOACH ROAD NORTH. ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SECOND MOTION BY MAYOR SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KENNY. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ROLL CALL VOTE. YES. YES, MA'AM. RIZZO I HARRIS. YES MCKINNEY. YES. MITCHELL. YES. ZUNIGA.

HEIZER. YES. ZUNIGA. ZUNIGA. WH? DON'T KNOW. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 6 TO 1. ALL RIGHT. NEXT

[38) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary a 0.0142 acre parcel of land in fee simple (as described in Exhibit “A” to the resolution) from certain real property owned by Benner Creek Enterprises, LLC. for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway improvements for the Kohlers Crossing Roundabout Roadway Improvement Project at Kohlers/Benner intersection. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

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YES YES YES. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM 39.

[39) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary a 0.0049 acre parcel of land in fee simple (as described in Exhibit “A” to the resolution) from certain real property owned by ATX Plum Partners I, LP. for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway improvements for the Kohlers Crossing Roundabout Roadway Improvement Project at Kohlers/Benner intersection. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

[40) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary a 0.0589 acre parcel of land in fee simple (as described in Exhibit “A” to the resolution) from certain real property owned by Baylor Scott & White Health for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway improvements for the Kohlers Crossing Roundabout Roadway Improvement Project at Kohlers/Cromwell Dr. intersection. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

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[41) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn if necessary a 0.0850 acre parcel of land in fee simple (as described in Exhibit “A” to the resolution) from certain real property owned by PC3 Partners, LP. for the public use and purpose of construction of public roadway improvements for the Kohlers Crossing Roundabout Roadway Improvement Project at Kohlers/Cromwell Dr. intersection. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

YES. MITCHELL. YES. RIZZO. AYE. ZUNIGA I. TOBIAS. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO

[42) Consider approval of a resolution approving the Program Year (PY) 2025 Annual Action Plan for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program, which outlines the City’s priority projects for the anticipated $277,869 in PY2025 funding.]

HERE WE ARE AGAIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR CDBG FOR PROGRAM YEAR OF NEXT YEAR. THE CITY IS IDENTIFIED AS AN ENTITLEMENT CITY WITH THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS FUNDING IS GIVEN TO US THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM FOR CDBG. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE ALLOCATED FUNDING ON A ON A YEARLY BASIS THAT CAN CHANGE BASED ON HOW MANY RESIDENTS YOU HAVE WITHIN THAT PROGRAM. THE REASON WHY IT MATTERS IS WE HAVE TO CREATE AN ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS. WE'VE DONE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. WE DID ANOTHER ONE TONIGHT, AND WE WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL PROGRAM NEEDS AND FUNDING PRIORITIES. SO FOR THIS NEXT PROGRAM, YEAR OF 2025, THE CITY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED $277,869. AND THESE FUNDS ARE REALLY CAN BE USED FROM ANYTHING FOR SIDEWALKS AND WALKING TRAILS TO SOME ROAD CONSTRUCTION. IT HAS TO BE SPENT IN ELIGIBLE AREAS, BUT SEWER LINE AND DRINKING LINE AND WATER LINE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALL THINGS THAT CAN BE SUPPORTED BY THIS AND ACCORDANCE WITH THE HUD GUIDELINES FOR OUR ACTION PLAN.

WE'VE DONE THE COMMENT PERIOD AGAIN. WE HAD THAT FIRST MEETING IN JUNE OF 24 AT OUR JUNE OF LAST JUNE 24TH AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. AND THEN WE HAVE DONE SUBSEQUENT NOTIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS DONE TONIGHT. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE LOOKING AT ADOPTING THIS ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO REALLY LOOK AT OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, THE TOP PRIORITIES THAT WE HAD WITH OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN ARE OUTLINED HERE. THEY LOOKED AT ROADS, SIDEWALKS, ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER, AND IMPROVING STREET LIGHTING AND PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE IDENTIFIED FOR THE PROGRAM YEAR OF NEXT YEAR, LOOKING AT DOING THE WASTEWATER LINE AT THE QUAIL RIDGE SUBDIVISION, WHICH WOULD HELP OUT WITH THE LOW MODERATE INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD AND A PORTION OF THE FUNDS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THIS PROJECT COULD COME FROM THE CDBG ELIGIBLE FUNDING. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION OF QUAIL RIDGE. SO WITH THAT, WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO LOOK AT APPROVING THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN, APPROVING IT WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS OR DENYING IT. AND IF YOU APPROVE, WE WILL THEN SUBMIT IT FOR COMPLIANCE WITH WITH HUD FOR THE CDBG PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY

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OKAY. IS IT IS IT IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN DO IS THERE ANY KIND OF ADVOCACY THAT WE CAN PURSUE TO HELP, YOU KNOW, GET THOSE NUMBERS? OR IS IT LIKE YOU SAY, THEY JUST TELL US IT'S FORMULAIC. IT'S VERY FORMULAIC. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE. AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKES SENSE BECAUSE SAN MARCOS GETS LIKE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT TIMES THIS, THIS AMOUNT SOME, SOME VERY LARGE NUMBER. I NOTICED THAT WAS ON THEIR AGENDA THE OTHER DAY. SO I WAS JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. BUT THAT MAKES SENSE. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MAYOR. SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 42. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL

[43) Consider approval of a resolution to rename South Goforth Road for existing roadway and planned extensions from Yarrington Road/FM 110 to High Road. Public Hearing ]

CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO RENAME SOUTH GOFORTH ROAD FOR EXISTING ROADWAY AND PLANNED EXTENSIONS FROM BARRINGTON ROAD. FM 110 TO HIGH ROAD. MISS MCCALL, THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS ITEM IS REALLY KIND OF HOPEFULLY THE ACCUMULATION OF WHAT OUR ROAD RENAMING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. KIND OF THE SUMMARY OF THIS PROJECT IS MOST RECENTLY BACK IN JUNE, YOU RECOMMENDED SOME BIOS AND ASKED STAFF TO SURVEY CITIZENS. WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING KIND OF THIS ROAD RENAMING SINCE FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. AND AGAIN, THE ROAD RENAMING RECOMMENDATIONS WERE FOR PAULA ALVAREZ PARKWAY, CHAVO PASTRANO SENIOR PARKWAY AND BECKY SILVEIRA PARKWAY. WE RAN A CONTEST FROM JUNE 20TH 5TH TO JULY 10TH. CHAVO PASTRANO SENIOR PARKWAY WAS SELECTED AS THE WINNER OF THAT CONTEST. BUT AS WITH ALL THINGS WITH ROAD RENAMING, IT DOES REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING AND NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY A RESOLUTION, AND YOU DO HAVE THE OPTION OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELECT ANY NAME YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE FOR THAT ROAD RENAMING. AND AGAIN, WE DO RECOMMEND THAT THAT ROAD BE RENAMED TO PREVENT ANY FUTURE AND CONFLICTS OF THE OTHER GOFORTH'S THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COUNTY, WHICH THERE'S MULTIPLES. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW. SEEING NONE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS THEY WANT TO MAKE, COUNCILMAN RIZZO? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY I WAS REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE COMMUNITY COME OUT AND VOTE ON THIS. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD APPLICANTS FOR RENAMING THE ROAD. PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERVED OUR COMMUNITY. THAT'S THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING. IT'S IT WAS WE PICKED PEOPLE THAT HAD SERVED ON THE DAIS FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE WERE REALLY HOPING THAT WE COULD GET GIVE THEM SOME RECOGNITION. SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY OF DOING IT. I, I, I FULLY THANK THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT AND TOOK THEIR TIME TO COME OUT AND VOTE. AND I'M GOING TO I'M GOOD WITH GOING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION. IS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CUSTOMER MCKINNEY YEAH, I KNOW FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER PASTRANA WANTED TO BE HERE. HE WAS UNFORTUNATELY OUT OF TOWN TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY ARE BLESSED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THREE REALLY GOOD FORMER, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THIS DAIS THAT THAT WE HAD TO CHOOSE FROM. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF, OF THINGS THAT THEY HAD DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THEIR TENURE. AND I LEARNED A LOT. I CAN SAY THAT EVEN EVEN AFTER KNOWING SOME OF THEM PERSONALLY, IT WAS IT REALLY WAS GREAT TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY LESSON TO SEE HOW. YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER AND VOTED. I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A FEEL GOOD MOMENT, RIGHT? ANY, ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR ANYONE TO SERVE 19 YEARS OR 17 YEARS.

AGAIN, AS HAS BEEN NOTED, WE'VE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TERM LIMITS NOW. BUT BACK BACK THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THAT WASN'T THE THAT WASN'T THE BELIEF. AND SO THE SOME FOLKS COULD SERVE FOR LONGER, BUT EVEN STILL, THERE WERE ONLY A FEW THAT WERE ABLE TO ENDURE AND MAKE THOSE MEETINGS YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, YOU KNOW, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER PASTRANO SERVED FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND JUST AS I THINK EVERYONE ON THIS DAIS KNOWS, THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND

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HE USED TO SAY HE HAD ALL THE JOBS IN KYLE, SO ONCE HE RETIRED, I THINK A LOT OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES OPENED UP. BUT IT WAS BUT NO, HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THIS WAS A GREAT CHOICE. YEAH, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE HE KNEW A LOT OF US JUST BY NAME, RIGHT? HE ALWAYS KNEW WHO I WAS. OH YEAH. WHEN HE'D COME BY WITH THE TRUCK. SO YEAH, IT WAS GREAT.

YEAH. SO GOOD. SO JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE ROAD. THIS IS THE MAJORITY OF THE ROAD IS NOT YET DEVELOPED. CORRECT. BECAUSE IT'S IN THE 2024 HAYS COUNTY BOND THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER APPEAL. BUT THERE IS A SECTION OF IT THAT WILL BE RENAMED. CORRECT. IT'LL BE KIND OF STARTING FROM A YARRINGTON, WHICH IS KIND OF THE SOUTH MOST SOUTHERN SECTION OF THE ROADWAY, THE EXISTING ROADWAY THERE. OKAY. SO THE NEW SECTION THAT GOES BEHIND THE, THE. TESLA ALLIANCE ALLIANCE ALLIANCE PROJECT ESSENTIALLY. SO THAT'S A BRAND NEW ROAD. SO IT WILL GET A IT WILL GET A SIGN. YES. THERE'S I THINK A 2 OR 3 STREET SIGNS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED. AND THEN WHEN THE NEXT SEGMENT GETS BUILT BEHIND KIND OF THE QUAIL RIDGE SUBDIVISION THAT HOOKS UP WITH THE EXISTING ROUNDABOUT AND THE MERITAGE NEW SUBDIVISION THERE. YEAH. OKAY. SO I WOULD THINK THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO AND THAT IT WOULD HONOR MR. PASTRANO FOR US TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CEREMONY WHEN WE DO THAT. SO IS THAT THE IS THAT THE INTENTION? DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF IDEA ABOUT WHEN THAT MIGHT TAKE PLACE? AND I UNDERSTAND YOU MAY NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE, BUT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT. BUT I DO THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. SO WE'LL COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR YOU, GET SOME DATES AND CHECK WITH MR. PASTRANO AND SEE WHEN HE CAN BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT. OKAY. WELL, I'M SURE THAT ONCE THE SELECTION IS MADE AND IT'S OFFICIAL, THEN THERE'S KIND OF SOME. ANTICIPATION THERE. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN PROBABLY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. JUST AS AT FIRST, FIRST CONVENIENT FOR HIM AND THE FAMILY AS WELL AS STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, TIME TO ORDER SIGNS AND ALL THAT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S FUNNY. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WON'T GO THERE. ALL RIGHT. COMMENT. ALL THOSE IN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. I MIGHT ASK FOR AN EXTRA SIGN

[44) Consider a resolution approving a Chapter 380 Grant Agreement with Bloodworth BBQ for economic development incentives in a grant amount not to exceed $16,370 for the improvements to the exterior of a downtown restaurant building. ]

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HOW WE CODENAMED IT. AND THAT IS BLOODWORTH BARBECUE. THE OWNERS ARE HERE. LETICIA AND THOMAS BLOODWORTH ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BUT REALLY EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS. SO THE LOCATION IS HERE IN DOWNTOWN KYLE AT 208 WEST CENTER STREET THAT IS LOCATED JUST ACROSS FROM THE MARY KYLE HARTMAN PARK. THE BLOODWORTH WERE PREVIOUSLY LOCATED IN A PROPERTY THAT THE CITY HAS ACQUIRED, SO THEY HAVE MOVED OUT TO MAKE WAY FOR CITY'S REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS, AND THEY FOUND THEIR HOME HERE AT 208 WEST CENTER STREET. SO I KNOW THEY'VE HAD THEIR EYE ON THIS PROPERTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO I'M GLAD THEY IT FINALLY WORKED OUT FOR THEM. HERE'S A PHOTO OF THOMAS AND LETICIA IN FRONT OF THEIR NEW BUILDING. AND SO THERE'S LOTS OF BENEFITS FOR THEM RELOCATING HERE. THERE'S INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT THEY'VE DONE. THEIR NEW LOCATION OPENED UP THIS PAST WEEKEND. THEY EXPECT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN SALES WITH THEIR INDOOR AND OUTDOOR PATIO SEATING, WHICH THEY DID NOT HAVE AT THEIR PREVIOUS LOCATION. AND THEY WILL ALSO HAVE A SMALL PATIO STAGE FOR LOW INTENSITY LIVE MUSIC. AND THEY ALSO PLAN AN OUTDOOR BAR. THIS IS IN AN EFFORT TO SUPPORT DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT. THIS IS OUR GOAL TO CREATE A VIBRANT, ACTIVE DISTRICT WITH A MIX OF THRIVING BUSINESSES. THOMAS AND LETICIA ARE TRULY A MOM AND POP BUSINESS AND THEY'RE DOING WONDERFUL.

VERY SUCCESSFUL IN DOWNTOWN KYLE. THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN VACANT SINCE APRIL OF 2022. SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT ACTIVATION. THEY'VE ALREADY PUT ABOUT $20,000 OF THEIR OWN INVESTMENT INTO THE INTERIOR RENOVATIONS, AND THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT DOING ANOTHER $22,000 OF RENOVATIONS TO THE EXTERIOR, WHICH IS WHERE THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION GRANT COMES TO PLAY. THIS IS THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF THE BUILDING. SO WITH THIS, HERE ARE SOME OF THEIR PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THAT BUILDING LOOK A LOT BETTER FOR VISITORS TO KYLE. SO THEY WANT TO DO SOME SAND. SAND DOWN OF THE LOOSE PAINT ON THE DOORS, THE WINDOW TRIM. REPAINT THE ENTIRE BUILDING. STAIN THE CEDAR POSTS. COVER. COVER THE PATIO OUT FRONT. THEY WANT TO INSTALL AN ADA COMPLIANT RAMP AND GATE. REBUILD ALL THE FENCING AROUND THE PERIMETER, AND WHEN THEY DO THIS, THAT WILL EXTEND TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL INCREASE THEIR OUTDOOR SEATING AND MAKE ROOM FOR THAT SMALL STAGE THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE THERE. THEY'LL INSTALL GUTTERS, LANDSCAPE, FLOWERBEDS, AND NEW LIGHTING. SO ALL OF THIS IS APPROXIMATELY A TOTAL OF 22,740 IN IMPROVEMENTS. SO LOOKING AT A CHAPTER 380 GRANT WITH THE BLOODWORTH'S WOULD BE THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION GRANT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A 50% MATCHING GRANT.

SO THE REIMBURSEMENT TO THE BLOODWORTH'S WOULD BE NOT TO EXCEED 11 370. AND WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER PROGRESS PAY. SO THIS IS A DRAW FOR COMPLETION OF VERIFIED IMPROVEMENTS. SO IF THEY MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THEN THEY CAN PRESENT THEIR THOSE COSTS AND THE CITY CAN VERIFY COMPLETION. AND THEN WE CAN REIMBURSE THEM 50% OF THAT SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME MONEY COMING IN AND THEN CONTINUE ON WITH ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL THEY'RE COMPLETE. THEY HOPE TO HAVE THESE DONE WELL WITHIN THE YEAR. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT APPLICATION FEE INCENTIVE AS WELL. THIS WOULD BE NOT TO EXCEED $5,000. SO FOR THE EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS THEY'LL HAVE APPROXIMATELY FIVE PERMITS AND PLAN REVIEWS. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAIVING SOME OF THOSE FEES FOR THEM. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO ASKING FOR A SPECIAL CONSIDERATION FOR FEES THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR FINAL INSPECTION. THAT HAPPENED THIS PAST WEEK TO GET THEM OPEN. AND THAT WAS $725. SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE THE CHAPTER THREE TERMS AS PRESENTED, APPROVE WITH ANY MODIFICATIONS AND DO NOT APPROVE. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS OPTION ONE AND THE BLOODWORTH'S ARE HERE IF YOU WANT TO ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WANT TO, JUST SAY HI TO THEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS, COUNCILMEMBER RIZZO?

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EVERYWHERE WE WENT IT WAS CLOSED. WE WENT ON SUNDAY. I DROVE AROUND SUNDAY. OKAY, IT'S A SUNDAY. IT'S A FAMILY DAY. EVERYWHERE I WENT, EVERY SINGLE SMALL BUSINESS WAS CLOSED THAT DAY. SO THEY MAKE A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT ARE GOING TO BE YOUR HOURS? BECAUSE WHAT'S COMING UP SOON? THE HOLIDAYS, THAT PLACE DOWNTOWN STARTS ROCKING AND ROLLING STARTING OCTOBER. AND ONCE DECEMBER COMES, IT'S JUST TONS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS GOING OUT TO THE CHRISTMAS TREE AND SEEING THAT EVERYTHING WAS CLOSED AS WELL, AND I SAID THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR A SMALL BUSINESS TO BE OPEN 7:00, 8:00 AT NIGHT. BUT THEN AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A LIFE, YOU HAVE A FAMILY, I'M SURE YOU GOT CHILDREN AND ALL THAT. SO YOU GOT TO LEARN TO BALANCE THAT. BUT THAT JUST BRINGS UP THE SEDIMENT TO WHERE IF WE WANT TO MAKE OUR DOWNTOWN SUCCESSFUL, PLEASE CONSIDER SOME OF THE HOURS THAT THAT SOME RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE. IF YOU FEEL THAT THE DEMAND IS THERE, IF YOU TRY IT, MAYBE A SUNDAY AFTERNOON AFTER CHURCH, YOU NEVER KNOW. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO BALANCE THAT OUT TO WHERE MAYBE YOU'RE OFF DURING THE WEEK, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BALANCE OUT A WEEKENDS AND SO FORTH AND HOURS. WE ARE OPEN ON SUNDAYS. WE'RE THE ONLY LITERALLY THE ONLY THING OPEN ON SUNDAYS. YEAH. OKAY. WELL THAT'S GOOD. SO THAT'S GOOD. WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WISH YOU THE BEST AND GREAT SUCCESS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ZUNIGA. YEAH. JUST ALSO LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE. I KNOW THAT YOU'VE MET SOME CHALLENGES IN THAT LOCATION. AND LIKE YOU SAID, SUNDAY IS YOUR BUSIEST DAY, BUT WE APPRECIATE IT. THE PEOPLE WHO STOP BY THE COMMUNITY, WE SEE YOUR POST. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE WORKING HARD, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HELP SUPPORT YOU WITH THIS SMALL BUSINESS INCENTIVE. I ALSO DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IN SOME, LIKE, MUSIC IN THERE. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO WORK GREAT FOR YOU. I'M JUST LIKE, GOD, HE'S HOW MANY, HOW MUCH SEATING CAN HE HAVE THERE? BECAUSE I WISH WE COULD HAVE MUCH MORE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FILL UP. YEAH. SO WHAT IS THE SEATING? YOU KNOW, ESTIMATED IT'S RIGHT AROUND 50. BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT THE OUTDOOR DINING AS WELL. YEAH. THE GOAL IS TO TURN THAT OUTDOOR DINING AREA INTO A REALLY FUN AREA, AN OUTDOOR BAR FOR FAMILY AND GAMES. BUT I'M SURE YOU APPRECIATE THE AIR CONDITIONING YOU'LL HAVE NOW. YEAH, SURE. SO GREAT. I TEND TO LOSE 20 POUNDS IN THE SUMMER

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DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCREASE THE TOTAL DOLLAR FIGURE OF THE AGREEMENT TO $22,740 TO MATCH THE INVESTMENT THAT THEY'VE MADE TO THE IMPROVEMENTS? I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, THAT AMENDMENT. SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO SAID MOTION TO AMEND AND TO INCREASE. AND THEN WE'LL GET A 22,000, $22,740. IS THAT. YEAH. WHO IS THE SECOND ORIGINAL SECOND THAT'S AMENABLE TO YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND ADDING TO THE RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL IS BASICALLY WAIVING THE POLICY ON THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION GRANT TO ALLOW FOR THE HIGHER INCENTIVE IN THE SITUATION. WE'LL JUST ADD THAT LANGUAGE TO THE RESOLUTION. YOU GOT IT. YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO HAVE HIM MAKE ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO IT. IF WE CAN JUST INCLUDE THAT IN THE AMENDMENT THAT IT'S A WAIVER. ALL RIGHT. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL RESTATE SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO JUST CALL IT AN ORIGINAL MOTION. ORIGINAL MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIZZO IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT TO INCREASE IT TO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE INVESTMENT AND BY DOING SO, WAIVE THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION GRANT PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? SO I WILL SAY THAT A COUPLE THINGS. NUMBER ONE, I DO I DEFINITELY AGREE ON THE HOURS. AND IT'S NOT IT'S AND THIS IS YOUR CHALLENGE TOO BECAUSE IT TAKES IT TAKES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE TO BE IN A DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ANY BECAUSE NO ONE'S OPEN. SO IT'S CHICKEN AND IT'S EGG, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT CERTAIN SPACE? AND I THINK PROBABLY SOME PART OF WHAT PRECIPITATED Y'ALL'S MOVE WAS THE FACT THAT THE CITY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY THAT YOU WERE OPERATING OUT OF, BECAUSE YOU WERE OPERATING OUT OF A PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF A PAWN SHOP, WHICH IS NOT THE CORRECT USE FOR THE DOWNTOWN TO ACHIEVE THAT VISION THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE TALKED ABOUT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, OF WANTING TO SEE KYLE HAVE A THRIVING DOWNTOWN. AND SO FOR ME, IT'S A NO BRAINER AS WELL. I FULLY SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE MOVING FROM A PLACE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RAZE TO THE GROUND AND THEN HOPEFULLY FIX, ESTABLISH A PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE AND WORK WITH PARTNERSHIPS, PRIVATE INVESTORS AS WELL, TO CONSTRUCT A VERTICAL PROJECT WITH MORE SPACE, MORE BUSINESSES. AND WHEN WE DO THAT PROJECT WITH THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT, WE'RE GOING TO PUT REQUIREMENTS ON THEM. I HOPE I WON'T BE HERE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN WHAT I'VE THOUGHT IS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT REQUIREMENTS ON THEM TO STAY OPEN, AND I THINK THAT WILL BE GOOD AND SYNERGISTIC FOR YOU ALL AS WELL. AND THEN IN ADDITION, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE WHEN GREG DEVONSHIRE LEFT MILT'S, THAT WAS A THAT WAS A VERY, VERY LONG TIME AGO AT THIS POINT. AND THAT BUILDING HAS SAT VACANT EVER SINCE. AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO COME AND WORK OUT A DEAL WITH THE LANDOWNER IN ORDER TO TAKE THAT SPACE, FILL THAT VACANT SPACE, IT MAKES EVEN MORE SENSE TO ME FOR US TO PARTNER WITH YOU TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BECAUSE YOU'RE SOLVING PROBLEMS FOR US, TOO, BY FILLING UP THE VACANT SPACE THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IN OUR DOWNTOWN. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE YOU COME IN AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU GROW. I'M CERTAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK, LIKE YOU SAY, THE REASON THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO STAY OPEN IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOT TRAFFIC AND SALES IN ORDER TO GENERATE THE ABILITY TO HIRE MORE PITMASTERS AND HIRE MORE LIKE. WE TALK ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES AS IF THE SMALLER AND FEWER AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING SOMEHOW THAT'S BETTER. BUT REALLY, SMALL BUSINESS IS ABOUT THAT. IT'S ABOUT LOCAL OWNED BUSINESSES WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND OPERATE THEIR STORES, AND WE WANT TO SEE IT FLOURISH. SO MY GOAL WOULD BE TO SEE YOU NOT STAY SO SMALL FOR A VERY, YOU KNOW, FOR A LONG TIME, WE'VE WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT STARTED RIGHT HERE DOWNTOWN, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE LOLLIPOP SHOP. THEY WEREN'T YOU KNOW, THEY STARTED WITH JUST A TRAILER JUST LIKE Y'ALL. AND THEY PUT THEY PUT TOGETHER A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY AND THEY INVESTED IN DOWNTOWN. AND THEN THEY MOVED TO PLUM CREEK. BUT THEY'RE ALL OVER WORKING. BUT

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THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MCKINNEY. I'VE LONG BEEN A CHAMPION OF LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS, AND IT'S MY SINCEREST HOPE AND EXPECTATION THAT THIS IS A KIND OF A LAUNCH PAD FOR YOU GUYS. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU GROW AND YOU THRIVE AND YOU SET AN EXAMPLE FOR, FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT TAKING THAT STEP. I DO WANT TO JUST GIVE A WORD TO VICTORIA AND TO STAFF AS FAR AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE INVESTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE PROGRAM THAT WE PUT IN PLACE, I THINK SHOULD STILL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T TRY TO SET A PRECEDENT. THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION, FILLING AN IMPORTANT VACANCY FROM A YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO LIKE THE I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO, YOU KNOW, NOT MAKE WHAT WE JUST DID A PRECEDENT BECAUSE THE NEXT GROUP THAT WILL COME WILL ASK FOR MORE. SO JUST TO ESTABLISH THAT THAT THAT FROM THE DAIS, WE'VE SAID THIS IS A SPECIAL SITUATION FOR A UNIQUE BUSINESS. PART OF THE UNIQUENESS IS THAT MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF RENOVATION THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO PUT IN INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR. SO WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS WELL. SOMETHING TELLS ME THAT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE IT'S ALWAYS MORE WHEN YOU START DOING RENOVATION PROJECTS. YEAH, YEAH.

WHEN I BUILT MY SMALL BUSINESS, THE BUDGET DOUBLED AND THE TIMELINE TO OPEN TRIPLED. SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE WAY THOSE THINGS GO. BUT YOU'LL GET THERE. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES 7 TO 0. THANK YOU

[45) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance to restrict parking on Amberwood North and Amberwood South.]

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THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY WE SHOULD DO, BECAUSE THAT THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM. WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT THEY WORKED WITH US. AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND GOOD PARTNERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT REALLY FRUSTRATES YOU BECAUSE THERE'S STUFF THAT COMES WITH IT. YOU KNOW, YOU GET TRASH, YOU GET ADDITIONAL NOISE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. WE WANTED TO CONTAIN IT. WE HOPE THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE CONTAINED WITH THE IN THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT TO HAVE THE PARKING ON THE STREETS, BUT ARE WE WILLING TO COMPROMISE? SURE. BUT LIKE I, I, I SENT AN EMAIL TODAY. MAYBE WE COULD PUT SOME RED PAINT ON THAT SIDE THAT DOES HAVE THE PARKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE. BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME IN AND OUT OF CRUNCH, THAT EGRESS AND INGRESS, IF THE CARS ARE PARKED CLOSE UP TO THAT, THAT INGRESS, THAT'S A BLIND SPOT. OKAY. SO I THINK IF YOU USE THAT, WHATEVER THAT ORDINANCE IS TEN FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION OR WHATEVER, YOU PUT RED PAINT, MAYBE THAT WILL HELP TO. BUT WE ARE GRATEFUL. I TOLD THE RESIDENTS YESTERDAY THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME RELIEF BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THIS SITUATION THAT WE HAVE WITHOUT LUPE TORTILLA. IS ATROCIOUS. SO MY, MY GENERAL AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THIS AS SOON AS I'M DONE SAYING IT. SO EVERYBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO SAY THIS. BUT MY, MY I, I FEEL LIKE AMBER WOULD NORMALLY WHEN A BUSINESS COMES CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, I HEAR THE COMPLAINTS OF HOW THEY'VE BEEN IMPACTED OR WILL BE IMPACTED. AND NORMALLY I DON'T DON'T GIVE THAT TOO MUCH THOUGHT. I TRUST THE RULES AND THE COMP PLAN AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I DO THINK THIS WAS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT HAS DECREASED YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC AND BECAUSE OF THE PARKING OVERFLOW. THE DEVELOPER SEEMS TO ME UNDER PARKED THIS AND OVER, YOU KNOW, OVER SPONSORED, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS. AND SO THEY ARE TAKING THEY ARE COMING IN AND PARKING WITHIN THE AMBERWOOD SUBDIVISION. AND IF YOU HAD TO CHOOSE TO GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE VERSUS THE WAY THAT IT IS NOW, AND YOU SAY, YES, AND I KNOW YOU ARE ENGAGED WITH THEM, I'M 100% WILLING TO DO NO PARKING ON BOTH SIDES WITH RED CURBS AND MAKE THE PROBLEM GO BACK INSIDE AND THEY HAVE TO FIX IT. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION ON IT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS. TOBIAS. YES, WE DID HAVE A MEETING. DIANE, HER, HER

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THEY, THEY WENT CHEAP ON IT. AND THERE'S DRIVING THE, THE JUST THE TENANTS. IT'S NOT ROADHOUSE'S FAULT. IT'S NOT CRUNCH'S FAULT THAT THEY'RE TRUSTING IN ENDEAVOR. YOU KNOW, A VERY NAME BRAND DEVELOPER WHO BRINGS A LOT OF GOOD PROJECTS AND HAS BROUGHT GOOD PROJECTS TO KYLE BEFORE, BUT I JUST THINK THEY DID. I THINK THEY DID. AMBERWOOD VERY DIRTY, AND I THINK THAT THEY MADE PROMISES TO ME AND TO THE COUNCIL THAT THEY DID NOT KEEP. SO I JUST, I WANT I WANT THEIR PROBLEMS TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THEIR, THEIR PROJECT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW. SO WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE MISS HER FAULT IF WE DID? BOTH SIDES READ IF, LIKE WHAT MAYOR MITCHELL'S RECOMMENDING, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD MAKE A MAKE IT MORE SAFE? LET'S GO WITH THAT MORE SAFER AGAIN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMING OUT. BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S GOING TO BE A DOMINO EFFECT WHERE OTHER CARS LIKE MARK MCKINNEY WOULD AGREE WITH ME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PARKING IN FRONT OF HOUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING, BECAUSE A LOT OF YOUR TRAFFIC, I THINK IT'S PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND WORK OUT LIKE AT FIVE, 6:00 IN THE MORNING AND THEY MAY NOT KNOW EXACTLY HOW FAR THEY'RE UP TO A CURB AND SO FORTH, AND THEY'LL BE WALKING. SO I'M JUST LOOKING IN HINDSIGHT AS FAR AS HOW TO HELP WITH THIS. IDEALLY WE WERE HOPING TO GET PARKING NO PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, BUT OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT ANY OF THE PARKING TO COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE YOU KNOW, THEY WERE PARKING AT THE POOL, THE POOLS RIGHT OVER THERE. I'VE HAD TO CHASE THEM OUT. I IDEALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED AND HAS FORCED THEM TO DO. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF IT WORKS.

WE'RE WE'RE OPEN TO INFLEXIBLE TO SEE IF IT WORKS. IF YOU GUYS THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, IF WE PUT NO PARKING ON BOTH SIDES AND WE MIGHT HAVE PARKING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WELL, THAT'S THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO FLY. BUT IF WE HAVE TO PUT NO PARKING ON THE AMBERWOOD LOOP AND ON THE BOTH SIDES, I'M CONCERNED HOW POPULAR LOOP TORTILLA IS, BECAUSE YOU GOT TWO POPULAR BUSINESSES THERE. CRUNCH. WELL, TEXAS ROADHOUSE IS PRETTY POPULAR TOO, BUT Y'ALL LIKE PARKING YOURSELVES. IF YOU HAVE A GUEST COME OVER, YOU DON'T MIND THEM PARKING IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT? OKAY. GENERALLY. GENERALLY. BUT I, I DO, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE DRIVEWAYS ARE FOR CARS, SIDEWALKS ARE FOR PEDESTRIANS. AND ROADWAYS SHOULD BE THOROUGH WAYS. GARAGES ARE FOR CARS. OKAY. WELL WHATEVER. AND KYLE AND THEY'RE FOR STORAGE. BUT

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YOU'RE RIGHT. GO AHEAD. YEAH. Y'ALL BEEN HAVING A LOT BACK AND FORTH. I JUST WANT TO GET US BACK ON TASK. SO, DIANE, I THINK I'M GOOD WITH. YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT YOU DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS ON SOME OF THE EXITS, MAKING SURE THAT WE GET SOME RED STRIPING THERE. SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT BLOCKING THE VIEW. THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT PERMIT PARKING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND ACTUALLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE, IS THAT TOW TRUCKS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS. THEY'RE TURNING IT INTO A REVENUE. THEY'RE TOWING PEOPLE EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. AND THE PRICES HAVE GONE SKY HIGH. THE LAST THING I WANT IS A RESIDENT COMING IN HERE AND SAYING, MY COUSIN CAME TO VISIT ME AND HE GOT TOWED AND IT WAS $500. SO HE DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT ON HIS CAR BECAUSE HE'S VISITING. RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON THE PERMIT PARKING THAT THAT SCARES ME BECAUSE OF ALL THE FEEDBACK I'VE BEEN GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THE TOW TRUCKS, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE UNREGULATED. SO UNTIL WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, I. I WANT TO BE WORRIED. I'M I WANT TO BE VERY SAVVY OF HOW WE DO PERMIT PARKING OR WHERE WE DO IT AT, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE SOMEONE A REASON. I MEAN, JUST IN THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE, WE HAD TRUCKS, CARS BEING TOWED THAT WERE NOT PERMITTED TO BE TOWED. AND WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO FOLLOW THAT PATTERN IN THE AREA. AND IF DIANE, IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, WITH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT YOU POINTED OUT FOR THE EXITS AS WELL, I THINK WE COULD MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. YEAH. AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE COULDN'T COME BACK TO THIS AT A LATER DATE IF THESE CHANGES DIDN'T END UP BEING AS EFFECTIVE AS WE NEED THEM TO BE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. SO I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO OPEN IN PROBABLY 2 OR 3 WEEKS. YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS THAT I DON'T WANT PARKING ON MY LANDSCAPE. I'M HOPEFULLY THEY'LL THEY'LL STAY CONTAINED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OR RIGHT THERE ON THE STREET WITHOUT BLOCKING THE VIEW OF OTHERS. AND I THINK THAT PERHAPS IF THEY REACH OUT TO MAYBE THE DAYCARE OR THE CONVENIENCE STORE, MAYBE THEY CAN GET ADDITIONAL PARKING OVER THERE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. WE ACTUALLY I ACTUALLY WORK AT THE DAYCARE THAT'S THERE. DO Y'ALL WANT TO COME UP AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME? SORRY. MY NAME IS GABRIEL DURAN. I AM ACTUALLY A VOLUNTEER AT BRIGHT BEGINNINGS LEARNING CENTER. OKAY. IT IS A PERFECT IDEA FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALSO DEAL WITH THE CHILDREN COMING, GETTING OFF THE BUS. THE BUSSES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TURN INTO INTO OUR PARKING LOT ANYMORE.

THEY HAVE TO STAY ON THE ON. THEY HAVE TO STAY ON THE ROAD. SO THEY HAVE TO STAY ON EMERYWOOD NORTH. WHICH IS ON THE ON THE NORTH SIDE ON THE. YEAH, WE'RE ON AMBERWOOD NORTH. OKAY.

SO COMING IN FROM THE HIGHWAY AT THAT NEW GAS STATION, WE'RE TURNING IN RIGHT THERE. WE'RE RIGHT BEHIND THAT NEW GAS STATION THAT JUST CAME UP. SO CARS COMING IN, HAULING, ALREADY HAULING, BUT ALREADY COMING IN, GOING TO THE GYM, IN AND OUT. WE'RE GETTING THAT TRAFFIC ALREADY IN OUR PARKING LOTS EARLY IN THE MORNINGS. AND OUR TEACHERS ARE KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON OR THE YOU KNOW, THE PARKING IS REALLY CRAZY. AFTER 5:00, OUR PARKING LOT IS FULL.

OUR PARENTS CAN'T EVEN PICK UP THEIR KIDS. THEY HAVE TO PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO PICK UP THEIR KIDS TO WALK FURTHER. THEY'RE HAVING TO PARK AT THE GAS STATION TO COME PICK UP THEIR KIDS. OR OUR CONVENIENCE WAS HAVING THAT. AND THEN THAT THAT RED PART, THE PAINTING ON THE BOTH SIDES ON AMBERWOOD NORTH IS A YES. ON THE SOUTH SIDE, I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE JUST ONE SIDE. BUT ON AMBERWOOD NORTH I WOULD DO BOTH SIDES PAINTED RED BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL BUS. AND YOU THINK BOTH SIDES ON SOUTH AS WELL IS WHAT YOU WANT, OR YOU WOULD RATHER TAKE IT ONE AT A TIME. IF YOU PAINT IT RED, THEN THE SCHOOL BUS CAN'T PARK THERE. WELL, THEY CAN DROP OFF. THEY CAN DROP OFF. YEAH. YOU CAN'T PARK DROP OFF. YOU JUST CAN'T PARK. BUT SCHOOL BUSSES DON'T PARK, DON'T PARK TO LET THE KIDS OFF. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PARK AT ALL. IF YOU PAINT IT RED. YES THEY CAN BECAUSE WE DO IT AT SCHOOL. YEAH, YOU DO IT. BUT IT'S NOT LEGAL BECAUSE THE RED STRIPE, YOU CAN STOP AND STAND IN A NO PARKING SECTION, WHICH IS.

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BRIAN, DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHEN ENDEAVOR IS GOING TO BE DOING THE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS? THEY'RE DOING THEM NOW. DOING THEM NOW. OKAY. GO AHEAD BRIAN. THANK YOU. YES, THEY'VE ALREADY COMMENCED WITH THE PARKING CONSTRUCTION. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE WORKING ON SEVERAL THINGS CONCURRENTLY. SO RECONSTRUCTING THE TEXAS ROADHOUSE PARKING LOT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WAS CONSTRUCTED BY TEXAS ROADHOUSE, IS THE CONVERSATION THAT I'VE HAD WITH THEM. SO THAT'S BEING RECONSTRUCTED. THERE IS AN OPEN LOT BEHIND FROST BANK THAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED, AS WELL AS THAT PAD SITE, WHICH I THINK IS ON IF I GET THIS RIGHT, THE NORTHEAST SIDE THAT'S SHOWN HERE IN THIS MAP, THAT'S ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF BEING WORKED ON, AND THAT WILL ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE EMPLOYEES PARK OFFSITE AT DAYCARE AND SOME OF THE OTHER SPOTS. THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME FINANCIAL AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE COMPANIES TO HAVE FOLKS PARK THERE, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS CONCURRENTLY. WE ALSO HAD SOME SPACES THAT WERE MARKED AS TOWING. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL BE TOWED IF THEY PARKED AT THE BANK OR SOME OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE IN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE'VE WORKED TO TRY TO GET THOSE OUT OF THERE. SO THERE'S MORE INTERNAL PARKING SPACES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION IS HOW MANY THIS THE FITNESS CENTER IS REALLY OVERSUBSCRIBED FROM WHAT THEY ANYONE HAD EVER EXPECTED IT TO BE. THERE'S OVER 12,000 MEMBERS OF CRUNCH. IT'S 20% OF THE CITY. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE. VERY FIT CITY. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MEMBERS THAT ARE THERE. AND THAT'S MORE THAN ANY OTHER CRUNCH FACILITY THAT THEY'VE EVER HAD. SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT. IT'S JUST MORE THAN THEY EVER POSSIBLY EXPECTED TO COME THERE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING RATIOS FOR THIS SITE, THEY'RE WITHIN THOSE PARKING RATIOS. IT'S JUST MORE DEMAND AND MORE CARS THAN I THINK THEY HAD PLANNED FOR. SO THEY'VE

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YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LOADING UNLOADING ZONES. WE CAN LOOK AT KIND OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THE OTHER THING WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT IS, YOU KNOW, PARKING WITHIN PARTICULAR TIMES OF THE DAY. AND THAT COULD BE ANOTHER THING THAT WE LOOK AT WHERE THERE'S NO PARKING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY. BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE DAYCARE NEEDS PARKING A CERTAIN TIME OR WHATEVER WE COULD LOOK AT, LIKE PARKING AT SPECIFIC TIMES OF THE DAY AND THEN NO PARKING OUTSIDE OF THAT CUSTOMER. HARRIS. HAS ANY DISCUSSION BEEN HELD ABOUT HAVING AT LEAST A TWO LEVEL PARKING GARAGE THERE? THERE'S A PAD SITE THERE THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THAT. CRUNCH IS MAKING A PROFIT, HUGE PROFIT, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE COMING. I KNOW THE ROADHOUSE SAME. IT'S HARD TO FIND PARKING THERE AND THEY'RE ALWAYS PACKED. I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SHARED EXPENSE ON THIS, AND I THINK THAT THEY NEED TO PUT IN A PARKING STRUCTURE. NOT ENTIRELY SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE WANT A PARKING STRUCTURE. THE 2A2 STORY ONE WOULD NOT BE PROBLEMATIC, BUT. IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF PARKING ON THEIR ON THEIR STREETS AND BLOCKING THEIR DRIVEWAYS. AND THERE ARE MORE SOLUTIONS. SO ARE WE IN IN SUPPORT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE. JUST THAT'S

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ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE WANT SOUTH AS WELL? WELL, I REALLY LIKE COUNCILOR MCKINNEY'S IDEA OF JUST GOING BY THAT HOUSE ESSENTIALLY ON THE BACKSIDE. MARK, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? SURE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 4, AMENDING THAT THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ALLOWED ON EITHER SIDE OF AMBERWOOD NORTH. AND THAT THE SOUTH SIDE OF AMBERWOOD SOUTH AND THE NORTH SIDE FROM AMBERWOOD SOUTH FROM THE FENCE LINE EAST. BE NO PARKING AS WELL. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THAT WE APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF NO PARKING ON THE OUTSIDES OF THE TWO STREETS, BUT THEN ADD THE INSIDE OF AMBERWOOD NORTH AND THEN THE INSIDE OF AMBERWOOD SOUTH, BUT ONLY FROM THE FENCE LINE BEHIND THE RESIDENCE TO THE CURB. IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? YEAH, DIANE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE OUR EYES AND EARS OUT THERE. LET US KNOW IF THIS IS WORKING, PLEASE. IT'S GOING RED. SO THAT'S CORRECT. Y'ALL PAINT IT RED IMMEDIATELY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. JUST WANT TO GET BACK TO DOCTOR LAWLEY. MADE A GOOD POINT. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH ENDEAVOR ABOUT A22 STORY PARKING GARAGE. BRIAN. JUST JUST TO SEE WHAT THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN THAT. I THINK THAT THAT DOES MAKE SENSE TO FIX THIS LONG TERM. I'VE HAD NO CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ON THAT, AND I COULD CERTAINLY ASK. IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY EXPENSIVE ADDITION, AND I THINK IT'D BE VOLUNTARY ON THEIR PART IF THEY WANTED TO TRY TO DO IT.

SO I, I CAN CERTAINLY ASK. YEAH. NO, MY ONLY OPPOSITION TO THAT IS JUST THE RESIDENTS THERE AND WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR NOT, BUT IT'S NOT I MEAN, IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T HURT US TO ASK. RIGHT.

AND SEE IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER THAT KIND OF STRUCTURE. SO THE I DO WANT TO PUSH BACK JUST A SMIDGE ON THE IDEA THAT TEXAS ROADHOUSE IS TO BLAME FOR THE PARKING HEAVING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND HAVEN'T HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH DAN, SO WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT ANOTHER TIME. BUT THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED WITHIN MONTHS OF ZITO'S, WHICH WAS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT HE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ENDEAVOR OVERSAW. THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED. AND SO IS THAT THE BLAME FOR THE DEVELOPER? AND THEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN HOW ARE THEY GETTING THEIR CONTRACTORS, IF NOT BY COORDINATION WITH ENDEAVOR. SO I YOU KNOW, EITHER WAY, IT'S A IT'S A IT'S JUST BEEN A MAJOR ISSUE. AND SO I'M, I'M EXPRESSING FRUSTRATION OVER.

SURE. AND I 100% AGREE WITH THAT. THAT'S THE CONVERSATION I HAVE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND DOING THIS BUSINESS ALMOST 30 YEARS. I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE PARKING LOT HAVE THOSE KIND OF ISSUES. WITHIN SIX MONTHS AFTER OPENING, MUCH LESS TWO. AND SO SOMETHING'S AMISS THERE. BUT THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO ME IS THAT THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED BY TEXAS ROADHOUSE. WELL, THAT'S CONVENIENT THING TO SAY. SO ANYWAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO. THANK

[46) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding the recommended operating and capital budget totaling $603,537,633 proposed for all City funds for Fiscal Year 2025-26 as presented to the City Council during the special-called meeting held on July 26, 2025.]

PROPOSED FOR ALL CITY FUNDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2526, AS PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL DURING A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING HELD ON JULY 26TH, 2025. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY SLIDE ONE MORE TIME WITH YOU THIS EVENING. I, I KID, BUT WE ADDED THIS ON THIS AGENDA AND WE'LL HAVE IT ON EVERY FUTURE AGENDA. UNTIL THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS VOTING ON THE BUDGET, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE BUDGET PROPOSAL. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, WE WANT TO CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. SO IF YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH US TONIGHT, THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ON, WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK. AND MR. MOHIT MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WELL. SO MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR THE RECORD, I'M PERVEZ MOHIT, CITY'S DIRECTOR OF FINANCE. THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, WHAT CITY MANAGER JUST SHARED WITH YOU IS THAT NOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS OFFICIALLY FORMALLY PROPOSED A RECOMMENDED BUDGET TO CITY COUNCIL, ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE FORM OF A FORMAL AMENDMENT. SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A MOTION, MAKE THAT CHANGE. HAVE YOUR ROLL CALL VOTE. BE MY LAST TIME TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT. YOU SAID THAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. DOES

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YOU CAN, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SOME IF ANYBODY'S GOT PROPOSALS, THE ONE THING I SAY A LOT OF TIMES IS THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WAS EARLY ON, IT WAS THE CASE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD WAIT UNTIL SECOND. THEY WOULD HOLD THEIR WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO CLOSE TO THE VEST, AND THEY WOULD WAIT UNTIL THE VERY LAST MINUTE OF SECOND READING BEFORE THEY TRY TO MAKE MOTIONS AND AMENDMENTS.

AND THAT'S I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO TREAT YOUR COLLEAGUES. IT'S BETTER TO, YOU KNOW, TO BE TRANSPARENT, COMMUNICATIVE ABOUT ANY KIND OF AMENDMENTS THAT YOU WISH TO MAKE IN THE BUDGET AND GIVE GIVE US TIME TO PROCESS IT, ASK QUESTIONS. AND, AND YOU KNOW, THINK. SO ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD, COUNCILOR ZUNIGA YEAH, I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL HAS PROACTIVELY AND YOU KNOW, REALLY WE'VE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD SOME SOME FUNDS FOR THE FOOD BANK AND THE HAYS COUNTY WOMEN'S SHELTER. SO IS THAT STILL IN THIS BUDGET? I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT. I MEAN, IF COUNCIL APPROVES, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD SERVICES THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS REACHING OUT. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR RESIDENTS USE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, OUR COUNTY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE. YEAH. BOTH BOTH OF THOSE ARE IN I KNOW IN THE CASE OF THE WOMEN'S CENTER, WE HAD INCLUDED A LINE ITEM FOR 15,000. I THINK THIS WAS FUNDED AT 30 LAST YEAR. AND I'VE GOTTEN A SEPARATE REQUEST FROM THAT ORGANIZATION TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE 30,000. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN SEPTEMBER. WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE BUDGET TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. I THINK IT WAS A ONE YEAR, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT WAS A ONE YEAR CONTRACT. SO WE'LL NEED TO BRING BACK A NEW CONTRACT FOR YOU TO CONSIDER. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO ADD SOME OPTIONS TO IT, WE COULD ALSO HAVE THAT. SO WE HAVE A FUTURE AMOUNT THAT WE KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD WOULD BE GOING FORWARD. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU DIDN'T KEEP THE 30,000 IN THE BUDGET? I'VE GOT 15,000 ON THE LINE ITEM. BUT I DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE THAT ACCOMMODATE THAT, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE. AND WHAT WAS THE FOOD BANK? BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. IT WAS ABOUT 15. WELL IT WAS I LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE THAT THE FOOD BANK WAS 15,000 LAST YEAR. OKAY. WE CAN CONFIRM THAT IF I JUST DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. OKAY. YEAH. I WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THEM, BROUGHT IT FORWARD. SO. OKAY. IT WAS 15,000. I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT AS WELL. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS AT THIS POINT? YEAH, I WENT BACK TO SLIDE FIVE OF THE PRESENTATION.

THE 2025 COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE COUPLE OF THINGS STOOD OUT TO ME THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT HERE. AND THAT IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREAS IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE MOST SATISFIED. IN OUR CITY, POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER TWO. SO WHICH IS A GREAT THING.

THERE'S A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE, BY THE LOOKS OF THE GRAPH, THAT ARE DISSATISFIED WITH POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE AND CONNECTIVITY, I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION AS SOMETHING THAT KIND OF ALIGNS WITH SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE AND CONNECTIVITY. YOU KNOW, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE ADDITIONAL BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE DRONE PROGRAM, THE K-9 OFFICER, DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL SERVICES, WHICH I'M I GUESS BEFORE I SPEAK TO THAT, I WOULD NEED TO GET MORE CLARITY ON WHAT OR BE REMINDED WHAT THAT ROLE DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FUTURE ANIMAL SHELTER? OKAY, SO I'LL LEAVE THAT ALONE. BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE. 101 53 SO JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE $280,000 THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH BETWEEN DRONE SAFETY AND K9 OFFICERS, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FULL, YOU KNOW, THAT MONEY ALLOCATED TO TRYING TO REBUILD OUR SIDEWALKS. IF YOU THINK OF WHAT YOU KNOW, WHERE CRIME TAKES PLACE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A CORRELATION WITH, YOU KNOW, A LACK OF COMMUNITY FEELING. AND THERE'S NO BETTER WAY TO CREATE SENSE OF COMMUNITY IS TO CREATE MORE CONNECTIVITY WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT MONEY ALLOCATED TO PROGRAMS, TO A PROGRAM THAT OUR SIDEWALK PROGRAM IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, JUST SPEAKING TO THE DRONE PROGRAM THAT, YOU KNOW, CAME UP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO OR A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO SEE US INVESTING MORE MONEY INTO A PROGRAM WHERE WE DON'T HAVE AN ESTABLISHED POLICY OR NECESSARILY A PLAN THAT'S FULLY BAKED TO ACHIEVE A POLICY THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT ANY OF THE INFORMATION COLLECTED THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS OR, YOU KNOW,

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READERS ARE DATA COLLECTION. IT IS. IT IS POINT. IT IS. IT IS TAKING INFORMATION, BUILDING IT INTO A DATABASE THAT CAN BE SOLD AND FARMED OUT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. THE DRONE CAMERA IS A IS THE FASTEST WAY TO GET EYES ON THE SCENE IN TERMS OF A CAMERA THAT I'VE EVER REALLY HEARD OF, IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST PHENOMENAL PLAN. AND I CAN TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A HORRIFIC SCENE IN 2015, IN FRONT OF MY DEALERSHIP THAT I HAPPENED TO CATCH ON CAMERA. AND THERE WAS A IT WAS VERY DARK, BUT THERE WAS A VEHICLE THAT GOT CLIPPED BY A WRONG-WAY VEHICLE AND WAS SITTING THERE FOR TWO MINUTES UPSIDE DOWN BEFORE IT GOT T-BONED. AND ALL FIVE PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN BECAUSE OF THAT, DIED. AND HAD THE OFFICER BEEN ABLE TO GET THERE A SMIDGE FASTER THERE, THOSE LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED. THE REASON THAT HE WASN'T ABLE TO GET THERE IS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T. HE GOT A CALL, BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS. AND HE HAD HE DIDN'T KNOW WHICH EXIT TO TAKE. AND SO HE HAD TO GO AND LOOP BACK ESSENTIALLY. AND HAD THAT DRONE BEEN ABLE TO BE DEPLOYED FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, THAT'S FIVE LIVES IT COULD HAVE SAVED JUST BY GETTING EYES THERE FASTER. AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S A TRANSPARENCY THING BECAUSE IT PUTS THE ENTIRE SCENE UNDER VIDEO RECORDING, WHICH AGAIN, THIS IS A THIS IS A LEFT WING LIBERAL DEMAND ITEM, THE BODY CAMS. SO I'M JUST WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THESE THINGS THAT THE, THE DATA COLLECTION FROM LICENSE PLATE READERS BEING USED AND SOLD IN WAYS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO THIRD PARTIES IS NOT THE SAME AS THE POLICE'S USE OF VIDEO RECORDING. IN THE EVENT OF A RESPONSE TO A SCENE, IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME. SO THERE'S NO I COLLECTION THAT'S THAT'S GOING THERE. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT INFORMATION ISN'T GOING. IT'S NOT LIKE A CAMERA THAT'S UP ON THE TOP OF THIS BUILDING WHERE IT'S A CLOSED CIRCUIT LOOP, WHERE ONLY WE ARE RETAINING THAT INFORMATION. IT'S THE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT IS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT A VENDOR HAS BEEN SELECTED. BUT FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN AND KNOWING THAT WE ALREADY WORK WITH FLOCK, I'M GUESSING FLOCK WOULD BE THE VENDOR THAT WE WOULD CHOOSE FOR THE DRONES. AND I HAVE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT THEM AS A, AS A COMPANY AND HOW THEY PROTECT DATA FROM.

AND UNLESS IT'S GOING TO A CLOSED CIRCUIT INSIDE ONE OF OUR CITY BUILDINGS, WHERE IT CANNOT BE ACCESSED BY ANYONE ELSE OTHER THAN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEN I DON'T I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT ACCURATE? BECAUSE IT WHILE I DO AGREE IN A VACUUM, IT DOES PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY OVER A CRIME SCENE 100%. AND I THINK THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF VALUE TO THAT. IF IT WAS ONLY US AND IT WOULD GO TO SERVERS IN THE BACK ROOM SOMEWHERE, I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING HOW THE DRONE TECHNOLOGY WORKS. IT'S A VIDEO FEED. IT SHOULD BE A VIDEO FEED GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE OPERATOR'S SCREEN, WHICH IS SITTING AT THE WHERE IS IT STORED? THAT'S IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE OTHER PROGRAMS. THE SURVEILLANCE PROGRAMS IS WHERE IS THAT INFORMATION STORED? BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT EVEN SURVEILLANCE. THAT'S WHAT I'M

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IT'S PUTTING EYES ON SO THAT YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH SURVEILLING A SCENE. RIGHT. BUT THE USE OF THE WORD SURVEILLANCE IS BEING. IT'S BEING IT'S BEING THROWN INTO EVERY DIFFERENT KIND OF WAY THAT WE COMMUNICATE. THIS IS THE, THE IT'S LIKE THE, THE AXON, WHICH ALSO PROVIDES DRONE PROGRAMS JUST LIKE THIS IS A VENDOR THAT WE USE FOR ALL OF OUR BODY CAMS. SO I DON'T KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN LOOK INTO IT MORE. BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT THE, THE DATA FOR JUST COLLECTING ONE PERSON AFTER ANOTHER PERSON AFTER ANOTHER 24 HOURS A DAY, WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE EVERYONE IS GOING AT ALL POINTS IN TIME, THAT'S THAT'S THE AMOUNT, THAT'S THE DATA THAT CAN REALLY BE USED IN WAYS THAT WE DON'T WANT. BUT A SINGLE CAMERA FROM A DRONE THAT CAN LAUNCH THE MOMENT, A 911 CALL CALL HAPPENS AND GO DIRECTLY OVER THE SCENE OF A CRIME. I MEAN, IT IS IT IS GOING TO IS GOING TO INSTANTLY INCREASE THE ABILITY FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. THAT'S JUST AN ALL ACROSS THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND TO BE ABLE TO DIRECT RESPONDING OFFICERS. AND THEN IN ADDITION, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DISPATCH BECAUSE THE DRONE CAN GET THERE SO FAST. YOU CAN REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE THAT REQUIRES EVERYBODY GOING. EVEN IF THE CALL CAME IN THAT WAY, IT ACTUALLY REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF STAFF OVER A PERIOD OF TIME THAT IS REQUIRED AND DEPLOYS THE STAFF IN THE BEST WAY. IT'S JUST EFFICIENT IN EVERY WAY. I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT THE CRITIQUE OF THE LICENSE PLATE READER IS BEING USED FOR JUST CAMERAS AND TECHNOLOGY, THAT IT IS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL AND DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME RISK AS WHAT THE LICENSE PLATE. BUT I'M NOT DISPUTING THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND HOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO I FIRMLY TRUST TO USE IT RESPONSIBLY AS IT'S INTENDED. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD UTILIZE THE DRONES. IT'S WHERE DOES THE INFORMATION GO? AND IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME THAT THESE DRONES ARE, YOU KNOW, SUPERCHARGED VERSIONS OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMS DEPARTMENT USES AT EVENTS AND IT'S LITERALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND IT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A DATA COLLECTION COMPANY, WHICH THAT IS IF WHERE DOES THE FOOTAGE FOR ALL THE BODY CAMS INFORMATION STORED? I THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER WAY MORE BODY CAM FOOTAGE BEING RECORDED, JUST LIKE A DRONE WOULD RECORD CONSTANTLY. IT'S NOT THEY'RE NOT STORING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN A ON A CD-ROM, IN A, IN A SHELF. IT'S BEING STORED ON A SERVER AND THEN UPLOADED INTO A CLOUD. AND WHO OWNS THAT SERVER? WHO HAS ACCESS TO THAT SERVER? WELL, I DON'T SO IF I IF YOU DON'T MIND, I INTERVENE. AND I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, BUT THIS COULD ALSO LEAD TO FUTURE BUDGETS DOWN THE ROAD IS, I THINK, TO THE POINT OF THE POLICY AND THE PROCEDURES FOR ALL THESE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS FROM WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND MR. HEIZER. WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. I THINK WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT TO WHERE OUR CITY OR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT GETS TO THE POINT TO WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL IT DEPARTMENT THAT CAN BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE TECHNOLOGY AND NOT HAVE TO RELY ON A THIRD PARTY, NOT HAVE TO RELY ON A COMPANY THAT WE HAVE AN IT DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, WITHIN THE POLICE THAT CAN DEVELOP THOSE KIND OF THAT KIND OF TECHNOLOGY. AND THEN IT IS KEPT FROM WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO LEASE IT OUT OR RELY ON FLOCK OR WHATEVER SURVEILLANCE COMPANY WE HAVE. I THINK ONCE WE DO THAT, WE CAN ACTUALLY BRING IT TOGETHER AND BE ABLE TO HOLD THAT INFORMATION TO SAY, WELL, WHERE IS THIS BEING STORED AT? WELL, IT COULD BE OUR OWN IT DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY A FUTURE BUDGET DOWN THE ROAD. ONCE WE GET PEOPLE ON BOARD WITH THAT. BUT I UNDERSTAND HOW EVERYBODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT. AND I KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE NOT SUPPORTING A K-9 DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR AS WELL. WHEN WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT RECENTLY, AND I KNOW A COUPLE A MONTH AGO WE HAD A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION HERE WHERE WE HAD TO EVACUATE. NOW, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY LOOK AT IT. WELL, THIS WAS A SWATTING ISSUE, YOU KNOW, SITUATION, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S UNDER CONTROL. BUT WHAT IF THAT SPECIFIC MOMENT WE DID HAVE A REALISTIC THREAT WHERE WE HAD A DEVICE SOMEWHERE UNDERNEATH THESE CHAIRS, SOMEWHERE IN THE WOMEN'S BATHROOM. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ACTUAL K-9 UNIT TO BE ABLE TO FIND THOSE, FIND

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THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH GIVING YOUR ID TO THE SCHOOL ATTENDANCE DESK TO TAKE YOUR KID OUT, BECAUSE WHERE DOES THAT INFORMATION GO WHEN YOU GIVE THAT ID TO THAT PERSON THERE AND YOU GET YOUR BADGE ON, RIGHT, WHERE DOES THAT SERVER GO? BUT IT ALWAYS COMES BACK BECAUSE IT'S THE POLICE. IT ALWAYS COMES BACK BECAUSE IT'S THE POLICE. AND BUT THAT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE.

MAYBE THE SENTIMENT THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY OR IN THIS COMMUNITIES, OR HOW CAN WE TRUST OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGER ISSUE. BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD ON THE BUDGET. I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH AS WE CAN OF WHAT OUR CHIEF BARNETT IS REQUESTING. HE HAS BEEN HOLDING OFF ON THE K-9 UNIT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, AND WHEN HE AND I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER PARSI BROUGHT THAT BUDGET ITEM ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I SPECIFICALLY ASKED HER IF WE COULD JUST WAIT TILL WHENEVER THE CHIEF IS READY WITH HIS DEPARTMENT PLANS TO SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF HOW I FEEL ON THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE BUDGET FOR MYSELF, I'VE BEEN KIND OF GOING THROUGH IT AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AS OF YET TO KIND OF PULL AND LOOK AT. BUT I WILL LET YOU KNOW. WELL, I WILL JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF KYLE HAVING A K-9 UNIT, BUT I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN AND I FULLY INTEND TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET. I WASN'T I WAS PREPARED TO SUPPORT IT AS IS. BUT YOU JUST THE CONVERSATION CAME UP AND SO I WOULD PREFER NOT TO BUT JUST IN GENERAL IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A STRONG OPINION. BUT I THINK OF THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE AND THE CALL THAT COMES IN AND I THINK, YES, IF THERE WAS A SITUATION WHERE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A SITUATION IN THAT ONE MOMENT WHERE A K-9 UNIT WOULD BE HAVE BEEN VALUABLE. BUT WHAT WOULD ALSO HAVE BEEN VALUABLE IS THE MOMENT THAT CALL COMES IN, YOU HIT A BUTTON AND HAVE EYES ON THE SKY OVER THIS ENTIRE PLACE, WITH PEOPLE MOVING IN EVERY DIRECTION. EVERYTHING IS BEING RECORDED FROM A FROM A DIFFERENT VANTAGE POINT. THAT IS HARD TO DESCRIBE HOW MUCH VALUE THAT IS, AND BEING RECORDED SO THAT YOU CAN GO BACK AND SEE WHO WAS WHO WAS MOVING IN WHICH DIRECTION AND TRY TO. IT'LL HELP YOU SOLVE A CRIME. AND THAT KIND OF VALUE ADD IS JUST OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT DOESN'T HAVE TEETH AND IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, SO I'M JUST EVEN THOUGH I NORMALLY ARGUE AGAINST THAT'S JUST WHY I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN THE TECHNOLOGY. I'M NOT TRYING TO DISMISS YOUR YOUR CLAIMS. I KNOW IT MAY SOUND LIKE I AM, I JUST I BELIEVE THAT THE THAT DRONE PROGRAM AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS SUCH THAT IT IS YOU KNOW, I USED TO I USED TO SAY I DON'T, CHIEF. I HOPE HE DOESN'T HEAR ME. I HOPE HE'S NOT LISTENING. BUT I USED TO SAY THAT LIKE IF WE GAVE IT TO HIM, THEY'D HAVE A HELICOPTER. THAT WAS. THAT WAS HOW, YOU KNOW, LIKE, THE WAY MY THINKING WAS. THEY WANT A HELICOPTER TO PARK ON THE ROOF, RIGHT? BUT IT WAS JUST BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY, THEY LOVE THE TECHNOLOGY AND WANT TO GROW BECAUSE IT CAN HELP. BUT THE TECHNOLOGY HAS MERGED IN SUCH A WAY THAT DRONES, WHICH I'M A ADVOCATE FOR AND, YOU KNOW, SO ANYWAY, WELL, LOOK, JUST AS A CLOSING THOUGHT ON THE DRONE, IF AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK QUESTIONS AND I KNOW I CAN JUST ASK CHIEF AT A LATER TIME ABOUT THE DRONE USAGE AND WHAT KINDS OF DRONES AND WHERE THE INFORMATION WOULD BE STORED. IS IT IN HOUSE LIKE IF THAT'S THE CASE AND IT'S STORED IN HOUSE, I DON'T I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH THIS. I JUST WOULD ASSUME THAT IT'S THAT THE VIDEO IS STORED IN THE SAME WAY THAT ALL OF THEIR. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALL ACTUALLY SAID, THAT WE NEED A POLICY, A BETTER POLICY, BECAUSE WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A STATED POLICY AROUND ANY OF IT. AND I'VE SEEN WHAT FLOCKS POLICY IS, BECAUSE THAT'S THE VENDOR THAT WE'VE CHOSEN. AND IT'S NOT GREAT. THE VENDOR WE USE FOR OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS. FLOCK.

YES. YEAH. NOT NOT FOR A BODY CAMS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BODY CAMS. IT FELT LIKE YOU WERE SAYING THAT BECAUSE HE WAS BRINGING UP BODY CAMS. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SAID THE VENDOR WE CHOSE. WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE DRONE PROGRAM IS MORE LIKE A BODY CAM THAN IT IS A LICENSE PLATE READER, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE VENDOR WHO PROVIDES THE SERVICE. YEAH. AND SO LET ME GO. LET ME GO. YOU STATED THAT THE BODY CAMERA AND THEN HE WENT THAT THE VENDORS

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IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO TO GO BACK TO THE WAY IT WAS LAST YEAR FROM THE 30,000? THAT WAS THE OTHER ONE. THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ACTIONABLE ITEM. IF WE WANT TO MAKE THAT AND GIVE HIM TIME TO FIND FIND IT. BUT HE NEEDS TO KNOW IF WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE THAT LEVEL. WELL, I THINK I'M GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACT. I GUESS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU IS I'M GOING TO HAVE A CONTRACT ON YOUR AGENDA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON, I THINK, SEPTEMBER 16TH AT SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. AND PERVEZ AND I CAN FIND THOSE FUNDS. THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WE COULD GO BACK AND THEN BRING THAT BACK AS AN AMENDMENT. SO WE COULD HAVE THAT FOR YOU ALL AT ONE TIME WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD. I'VE BEEN WAITING LONGER. OKAY. GO AHEAD. SORRY. GO AHEAD. YEAH, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A WHILE, ACTUALLY.

SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS TALK ABOUT THE K-9 AND THE. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, DRONE. I ACTUALLY THINK THE DRONE IS ADVANTAGEOUS, BUT I THINK ABOUT WHAT OTHER POSSIBILITIES FOR THE DRONE? I THINK ABOUT SEARCH AND RESCUE. HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR DO WE GET A CALL THAT THERE'S A RESIDENT WHO IS LOST BECAUSE OF HIS? PROBABLY GOT SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THEM, RIGHT? A KID OR SOMEBODY'S ELDERLY. WE ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THOSE SITUATIONS, AND A DRONE COULD REALLY HELP IN THAT SITUATION IN REAL TIME. LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY WITH THE K-9. I'M STILL A LITTLE IFFY, AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT I KNOW THAT CANINES DON'T PERFORM EVERY JOB OUT THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. MICHAEL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR DRUG SNIFFING STUFF FOR SOMETHING OTHER FOR DIFFERENT CRIME ELEMENTS. OR ARE THEY ABLE TO TRAIN EVERY CANINE FOR EVERY SITUATION OR NOT? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY QUESTION TO CHIEF WOULD BE IF HE'S LISTENING FOR ME, SUPPORTED. BUT ACTUALLY I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD BE MORE INVITATIONS FOR US TO HAVE TWO DRONES INSTEAD OF THE CANINE. AND THE REASON WHY IS I THINK THE DRONES COULD GET THERE SO MUCH QUICKER, THE TECHNOLOGY IN THEM TO FOR THE HEAT SIGNATURES, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND THE CAMERA SYSTEMS NOW, I THINK WOULD BE MORE, MORE INVITATIONS THAN HAVING A, A CANINE. AND THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE WITH THAT. SO IT'S JUST KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT I THINK ABOUT THE SPEED. HOW FAST CAN WE GET THERE WITH WHAT IF ONE DRONE GOES DOWN, WE'VE GOT THAT BACKUP. THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN THINK OF. AND WHEN CHIEF WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR OFFICERS HAVING TO SEARCH FOR SOMEONE ONE TIME, I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW FAST THAT DRONE COULD BE THERE AND HELP THEM IN THAT SITUATION OVER A CANINE. SO I'M NOT I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO BE AN OFFICER, BUT I'D LOVE TO GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM CHIEF. AND BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON THIS, TO TRY TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND COUNCILMAN HEIZER DID BRING UP A POINT, I WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE STORING THIS INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY THE WAY WE ARE IN IN OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW, MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT WEAPONIZING SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK I'D BE MORE IN FAVOR OF TWO DRONES IF WE'RE STORING THAT LOCALLY. SO IF I COULD OFFER IF THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 19TH, WE CAN HAVE THE CHIEF HERE. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE DATA ISSUES AND HOW THAT DATA IS BEING USED. WE DO HAVE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO PROCEED WITH CREATING THE DATA POLICY. WE'RE UNDERWAY WITH THAT. WE'RE LOOKING AT HIRING AN INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT. AS WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT BEFORE. THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE'RE UNDERWAY ON DOING THAT. AND AS FAR AS THE K-9, I THINK THERE ARE SOME USES THAT CAN BE COMBINED FOR ONE ANIMAL. BUT I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT ALL THOSE ARE. I NEED THE I NEED THE CHIEF TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THAT. I THINK THE TWO PRIMARY USES, AS I RECALL FROM HIS PRESENTATION BACK IN JUNE, IT WAS FOR NARCOTICS AND IT WAS ALSO FOR SAFETY ISSUES. IF THERE WAS A SUSPECT THAT WENT INTO A WOODED AREA OR INTO AN URBAN AREA, AND RATHER THAN SENDING AN OFFICER IN TO GO AROUND A CORNER AND SEE WHERE THAT SUSPECT MIGHT BE AND THE DANGER THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THE K-9 COULD BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO THAT'S THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY THINGS I THINK THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT. BUT AGAIN, WE CAN HAVE HIM GO BACK THROUGH THAT WITH YOU ON THE 19TH AND TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL OPTIONS WITH OTHER DRONES OR WHATEVER OPTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT. SO YOU'D PREFER THAT WE HELD OFF ON BUDGET AMENDMENTS UNTIL THEN? I DO. I THINK WHAT I RECOMMEND TO YOU IS THAT IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT,

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SO WE HAVE A $603 MILLION BUDGET, BUT REALLY FOR 70 OF THAT IS TWO MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ROADS AND WASTEWATER. SO IS THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. I BELIEVE IT'S 370. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 241 WAS WATER AND WASTEWATER AND 130 MILLION FOR ROADS. SO RIGHT. 370 IT'S GETTING LATE. SO I MAY NOT BE A LARGE CONCERN THAT I GET IS LIKE THE AMOUNT OF BOND DEBT THAT WE'RE ACCRUING. SO WE ARE GETTING UP TO $265 MILLION IN BOND DEBT. PEREZ. RIGHT. SO, PEREZ, I GUESS WHEN I LOOK AT IT LIKE LONG TERM IN OUR TREND AS THE CITY, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT OUR NET POSITION STAYS SUSTAINABLE AND THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE FACING DEFICITS OR THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR REVENUE IS BEING USED TO PAY THIS BOND DEBT AND NOT MEETING OUR ESSENTIAL SERVICES. SO THAT I GUESS THAT'S THAT IS THE ONLY, THE ONLY WORRY FOR, FOR ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THIS IS INVESTMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE VALUE. SO, I MEAN, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE BOND DEBT AND THEN OVER TIME, ARE WE RELYING TOO MUCH ON REVENUE, EXPECTED REVENUES TO PAY DOWN THIS BOND DEBT? OKAY. SO IT'S A TWO PART ANSWER. ONE IS THE DEBT IS DRIVEN AS A DIRECT RESULT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT. SO IT COULD BE BOND DEBT FOR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, SIDEWALKS, PARKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

LIBRARY, POLICE STATIONS. YOU YOU'LL RECALL WHEN WE STARTED THE BUDGET PROCESS, THE CITY MANAGER HAD A PRELIMINARY FIVE YEAR FORECAST. THEN WE REFINED IT. AS THE BUDGET NUMBERS GOT BETTER, WE CAME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL. WE BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE SHARED THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST. SO THE PURPOSE OF THAT FIVE YEAR FORECAST IS JUST TO ANSWER THAT EXACT SAME QUESTION. HOW DOES THE FINANCIAL PICTURE LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? GIVEN THESE SET OF ASSUMPTIONS FOR REVENUES, FOR EXPENDITURES, FOR DEBT AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE INCLUDE? SO THAT IS THE FIRST LITMUS TEST THAT WE BRING TO COUNCIL BEFORE WE EVEN PROPOSE A BUDGET FOR GENERAL FUND FOR WATER UTILITY FROM WASTEWATER UTILITY. SO THAT'S THE ASSURANCE THAT YOU'RE GIVEN FROM STAFF WHEN WE START THE BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR WE DO THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER. AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD TELL YOU IS THESE ARE LONG TERM INVESTMENTS THAT WILL BE PAID OFF OVER 25 TO 30 YEARS FOR THE DEBT, BUT THEY WILL HAVE DECADES OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE REVENUE STREAMS FROM THE CITY OVER THE NEXT TEN, 20, 30, 40, 50 YEARS, THEY'RE VERY SUBSTANTIAL IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE LOOK AT THIS IS THIS IS THIS IS DEBT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE REVENUE STREAMS, THEY'RE IN THE BILLIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE RECEIVING IN REVENUES OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, TOO, I DON'T THINK WE COVERED THIS IN THE BOND ISSUANCES EARLIER, BUT WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT RATING THAT WE DO WITH STANDARD AND POOR'S, AND THEY PROVIDE A BOND RATING. AND THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION IN THAT THAT THEY LOOK AT IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY THE CURRENT YEAR, BUT OUR OUTLOOK GOING FORWARD. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT WAS IN THE BOND MATERIALS THAT WE HAD FOR THE BOND ISSUANCES EARLIER. I THINK

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SO THANK YOU. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE. ARE WE READY TO GO. MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU

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