[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]
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HEAR US? ONLINE? ARE WEB. YOU YOU. CAN YOU HEAR US? JAKE? YES, I'M ALL GOOD. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. NOW WE CAN. AND WE'RE DOING ROLL CALL WEB. OKAY. PERFECT. PRESENT. STIEGEL. HERE, HERE. HAWK. HERE. OKAY. HAVE A QUORUM APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE
[II) Approval of Minutes]
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. JANUARY 27TH, 2026. REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS MINUTES. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. OKAY.JAYHAWKERS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. GEORGE CALVERT HAS. COMMISSIONER HAS MADE SECOND. AND ALL IN FAVOR? I ALL OPPOSED. OKAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF REGULAR MEETINGS.
SPEAKERS ARE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS, AND THEY MUST OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE RULE. ANYONE COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK, MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. CITIZEN CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD IS NOW CLOSED. WE HAVE A ITEM NUMBER FOUR STAFF REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS.
GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN. COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY POSTPONE THIS STAFF REPORT. WE WERE HERE TO RECOGNIZE DANIEL SERRATO, OUR MEMBER WHO'S WHO'S RECENTLY LEFT THE COMMISSION. HE WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT. SO WE'LL GET HIM ON THE MARCH 10TH.
WE'LL DO THAT RECOGNITION THEN, IF THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOPE TO SEE DANIEL.
[V) Consent Agenda]
OKAY. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT FOR THE CHEVY PASTRANO SENIOR PARKWAY, SECTION THREE, FOR APPROXIMATELY 3.778 ACRES OF LAND OUT OF THE JAMES W WILLIAMS SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 473, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 3700FT EAST OF WATERSTONE BOULEVARD AND EAST POST ROAD THROUGH THE LIMESTONE CREEK SUBDIVISION. I'M GOING TO ASK ACTUALLY, ALL THESE CONSENT ITEMS TO PULL THREE OF THEM, 4 OR 5 AND SIX, AND THEN WE CAN, IF THAT WAS AGREED FOR YOU ALL. OKAY. BUT THE ONE I'VE JUST READ, I WOULD LIKE TO TO CONSIDER IT FOR APPROVAL AS WELL AS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT ESTABLISHING THE MOORE ADDITION, CONSISTING OF 0.57 ACRES OUT OF THE Z. HINTON SURVEY. ABSTRACT NUMBER 220, LOCATED AT 703 WEST THIRD STREET AND 707 702 SOUTH GROVE STREET SUBDIVISION 25 0375. CLARIFICATION THERE, YOU SAID APPROVAL OF ONE AND SEVEN. IS THAT CORRECT? ONE SEVEN. WOULD BE THREE AND SEVEN. EXCUSE ME.
ONE, THREE, SEVEN, THREE AND SEVEN. JUST THREE AND SEVEN. I HAVE THE NUMBERS OFF. HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND. OKAY. QUESTION. YES. WHY ARE WE PULLING THE OTHER ONES THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. CORRECT. THERE'S SOME MINOR MATTERS HERE THAT I THINK ARE OFTEN IN DEBATE IN THE PUBLIC HERE ABOUT ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO FORTH. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THESE THREE, TO EXAMINE SOME CHANGES OR NEW DEVELOPMENTS SO THAT WE CAN GET A CLEAR BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON REGARDING INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS REGARD, SOME THINGS THAT ARE COMMONLY MISUNDERSTOOD OR NOT DISCUSSED IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO PUT SOME THINGS OUT THERE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING HERE. AND THESE THREE REPRESENT THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF EXAMPLES ABOUT ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR ONE THING. AND RIGHT AWAY, I'D JUST LIKE TO GET IT OUT THERE AND BE ABLE TO TALK WITH STAFF. SO IF THAT'S AMENABLE TO YOU GUYS, JAKE. OKAY, SO THE POLL
[4) Consider approval of a revised Preliminary Plan for the Prairie Lakes Subdivision, being a 611.759-acres tract of land out of the Z. Hinton Survey No. 4, Abstract No. 219, and generally located on the south side of Satterwhite Rd., between S. Turnersville Rd. and Williamson Rd. (SUB-22-0256)]
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ITEMS, NUMBER FOUR IS CONSIDER APPROVAL OF REVISED PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THE PRAIRIE LAKE SUBDIVISION BEING A 611 700.759 ACRES TRACT OF LAND OUT OF THE Z. HINTON SURVEY NUMBER FOUR, ABSTRACT NUMBER 219 AND GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SATTERWHITE ROAD BETWEEN SOUTH TURNERSVILLE ROAD AND WILLIAMSON ROAD. I AM PRESENTER MR. LUTZ. YES, I THINK YOU. I'M SORRY. THE ITEM WAS. WHICH NUMBER? FOUR. FOUR GREAT LAKES. YES. MR. WIZARD IN THE BACK. IF WE COULD HAVE ITEM FOUR, THIS WOULD BE THE PRAIRIE LAKE SUBDIVISION, PLEASE. GIVE THEM ONE QUICK SECOND TO PULL THAT UP. HERE WE GO. EVERYBODY. Y'ALL CAN SEE ON Y'ALL'S MONITORS. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THIS IS A THE PROPOSED OR THIS IS A LOCATION MAP FOR THE EXISTING PRAIRIE LAKES SUBDIVISION. THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING PRELIMINARY PLAN ARE TO REFLECT RECENT AMENDMENTS TO AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.THOSE WERE APPROVED APRIL OF 22. I'M SORRY, THE ORIGINAL. AND THEN AGAIN, THIS IS IN THE ETJ.
THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN DECEMBER 13TH OF 22. THEY APPROACHED THE CITY ABOUT POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS. WE DID CONSIDER THOSE AMENDMENTS AND THOSE WERE MODIFIED ON AUGUST 19TH OF 2025. AGAIN, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS GO TO COUNCIL. SO THAT'S WHY Y'ALL DID NOT DID NOT SEE THAT THAT DISCUSSION. SO BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AS FAR AS THE MODIFICATIONS. SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT AN OVERALL INCREASE FROM ABOUT 1591 TO 1727. SO IT'S ABOUT 136 ADDITIONAL UNITS. THESE ARE IN PHASES FIVE AND SIX. THIS WILL AFFECT THE UTILITY PLAN. SCHEMATICS, DEVELOPMENT FLOWS, DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS HAVE ALL BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED. THEY'RE BASICALLY DOING THIS. THEY ARE ADDING A 45 FOOT LOT SIZE PRODUCT. SO THIS IS KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THOSE CHANGES WERE. YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THOSE LOTS ARE COMING OUT OF THE 40 BY 125 WITH THE ATTACHED GARAGE ALLEY. SO ABOUT LOSING ABOUT 200 PRODUCTS THERE. AND THEN THE DETACHED GARAGE ALLEY, ANOTHER 84. SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT PUT BACK INTO THE 40 FOOT. AND THEN YOU SEE ANOTHER 200 ADDING THAT 45 FOOT LOT PRODUCT. THERE'S ABOUT 160 OF THE 50 FOOT LOTS THAT ARE BEING REMOVED, AND THEN ABOUT 34 OF OR, I'M SORRY, 160 OF THE 50 FOOT AND THEN 34 OF THE 60 FOOTS. SO THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THE TOTAL LOT CHANGES WHEN WE CALL IT EASEMENTS. A TYPICAL EXISTING EASEMENTS HAVE BEEN EXTENDED FOR THE NEW LOTS DRAINAGE FLOWS. AGAIN, CALCULATIONS HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. AGAIN THIS IS WATER. THIS IS A GO FOR SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT. WASTEWATER IS GBRA AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO THIS IS A MUD PARKLAND. FEES WILL BE PAID PRIOR TO FEE FOR VIV CONSTRUCTION OUTSIDE OF THE. ORIGINALLY THEY WERE GOING TO CONSTRUCT $1 MILLION OF VIBE WITHIN THEIR SUBDIVISION, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO LET US TAKE THAT MONEY AND IMPROVE THAT THROUGHOUT KYLE COMMUNITY. SO NOT JUST HERE. THE DEVELOPER IS PROVIDING 250 ACRES OF AN HOA MAINTAINED PARK. IT IS GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND AS PART OF THEIR IMPROVEMENTS, THEY SHALL PROVIDE $500 PER UNIT WORTH OF PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE YET. THEY'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT THOSE. I BELIEVE THE DA REQUIRES THEM ACTUALLY TO PUT A BOND UP, AND THEN THEY DO THE IMPROVEMENTS PARKS WILL REVIEW TO SEE WHAT THAT VALUE IS. IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS LEFT OVER THAT GETS REIMBURSED. IF THERE'S NOT, THEN THEY THEY JUST COVER WHAT THEY HAVE. SO NO ADDITIONAL CITY MAINTENANCE OR COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED PHASES FIVE 1 TO 5 THREE. AND I'M GOING TO GO QUICKLY THROUGH THESE. IF Y'ALL WANT TO GO BACK WE CAN WE CAN LOOK FIVE THREE AND FIVE FIVE. PHASE SIX 1 TO 6 FOUR. PHASE SIX 6 TO 6 SEVEN. SO AGAIN TONIGHT YOUR OPTIONS ARE APPROVE AS PRESENTED.
APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR CONDITIONS OR DENY BASED ON A SPECIFIC CODE REQUIREMENT. WE
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ARE RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE APPROVE AS PRESENTED. THIS PLAT DOES MEET ALL STATE, COUNTY AND LOCAL REGULATIONS, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL BE ABLE TO. YEAH, FOR ONE THING, JUST AS A BEGINNING, THIS WAS UNDER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. SO THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, A FORM OF CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER REGARDING THIS DEVELOPMENT AND HOW IT WOULD BE BUILT OUT OR PLANNED AND BUILD OUT. SO. WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE IS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN AMENDED. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WITH EVERYBODY THAT THESE AGREEMENTS IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT, ARE MADE BETWEEN THE CITY, THE DEVELOPER AND SOME CASES, IF THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE ETJ FOR SURE, AND THAT THE THESE CAN BE AMENDED AND THERE CAN BE WAIVERS GRANTED AS WELL BY THE CITY. SO THESE THINGS ARE CAN BE CHANGED OVER TIME. WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED HERE TONIGHT EVEN COULD BE CHANGED AGAIN. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. SECONDARILY, THE ROADS, BY MY CALCULATIONS, GOT SOME HELP FROM STAFF. THIS IS EXPANDING THE ROAD MILEAGE FROM 10.37 MILES TO 11.1 MILES. WORK IN THAT BALLPARK. THAT'S FROM THE DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY. WE WOULD ESTIMATE THAT'S THE NUMBER OF MILES. YES, SIR. SO THE ROAD WILL BE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER? YES, SIR. AND IT WILL BE MAINTAINED OVER TIME BY THIS ONE. IS THE COUNTY THESE OUTSIDE? SO IT WILL BE GOES TO THE COUNTY. THEY MAINTAIN THOSE THOSE RIGHT OF WAYS. THESE ARE NOT PRIVATE STREETS. WE DO HAVE SOME DIVISIONS, SOME SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE PRIVATE ROADS THAT THEY MAINTAIN THEMSELVES. BUT THIS WILL NOT BE A PRIVATE. IS THIS THE MUD THOUGH? THIS ONE? YES. OKAY. SO IT'S COUNTY. OKAY. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER AND IT'S NOT THE CITY.IT'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THE ROADS. THE COUNTY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THE ROADS. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE COUNTY CITIZENS WILL BE PAYING FOR THESE ROADS. YES, SIR. YEAH.
OKAY. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. THEN WE HAVE THIS 250 ACRE DEDICATION TO THE HOA. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT IN THAT THAT'S A LOT OF ACREAGE. JUST TO DEDICATE A WHOLE PARCEL TO AN HOA. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED OVER TIME. AND I WOULD GUESS THAT THE HOA IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT. YES, THIS IS NO CITY MAINTENANCE. YOU KNOW, THERE WILL MOST LIKELY BE IT'S NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. PARKS HAS GONE THROUGH SOME PROCESS CHANGES WHERE THEY LOOK AND REQUIRING SOME MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES. WHEN PARKS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WE CAN'T ALWAYS GET THEM TO TO FOLLOW THE SAME MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE. BUT WE DO TRY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THE RESULTS OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE. WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE YET.
ON THE DEDICATION AND THE THE PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES. MY GUESS IS BECAUSE OF THE ACREAGE SIZE, THERE ARE SOME TRAILS THERE THAT ARE PROPOSED, BUT THIS IS MOST LIKELY WOULD BE PASSIVE NATURAL AREA. ANY AREAS THAT THEY DO IDENTIFY AS PLAYSCAPES OR TRAILS, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS MAINTENANCE LONG TERM. NOW WE DON'T REGULATE HOAS REGARDING THESE THINGS SPECIFICALLY. THEY HAVE TO BE AGREED TO IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES AND NO. SO WE CAN AGREE TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WE CAN AGREE TO CERTAIN PARAMETERS REGARDING THE HOA. WE CAN KIND OF NEGOTIATE, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE OR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE OR THE REQUIREMENTS.
WE DON'T REALLY GET INTO DISCUSSING OR REGULATING KIND OF PROGRAMING ON THAT SIDE.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE. HOAS ARE KIND OF REGULATED VIA THE STATE.
GENERALLY, CITIES ARE AREN'T EVEN ALLOWED TO KIND OF ENFORCE DEED RESTRICTIONS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT COMES INTO PLAY. SO IN THIS CASE WE WE DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION ON, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY'RE MAINTAINING THAT THAT AREA. SO ONE OF ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC. YEAH. SO MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS ONE IS THE MAINTENANCE. OH GO AHEAD. THAT WAS JAKE. YEAH I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE HOA WHEN. SO IF THE LAND IS OWNED BY THE HOA THE MAINTENANCE IS PAID BY THE HOA. CAN WE ENSURE THAT THAT'S A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE PARK OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT EVENTUALLY DOWN THE LINE, THE HOA MIGHT NOT BE AMENABLE TO KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL, BECAUSE THAT IS IN THE DAY THAT THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATIONS. THEY DO HAVE SOME DISCRETION ON ON MONITORING ACTIVITY IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
SO IF THEY IF SOMEONE WAS VANDALIZING, THEY COULD ASK THEM TO LEAVE. THAT WOULDN'T, THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD GET INVOLVED IN. BUT WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT
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THAT PARK IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THAT'S EXCELLENT. I WANTED TO EXPLORE THIS AND FOR THESE PARTICULAR REASONS, MY OBSERVATION OVER TIME HAS BEEN THAT DEVELOPERS OFTEN LEAVE INDIVIDUAL SUBDIVISIONS, DIVISIONS AND DEVELOPMENTS BEHIND WITH A FUND A SMALL RESERVE FUND THAT'S OFTEN INADEQUATE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE WORK. AND THAT'S THAT'S REQUIRED OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO AFTER THEY BACK OUT OF THE DEAL, AFTER THEY LEAVE THE PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW OF AN HOA PERSONALLY THAT COULD MANAGE 250 ACRES. AND THE BIG CONCERN HERE IS THAT IT BECOME A WILDFIRE RISK. NUMBER ONE.AND I DON'T KNOW THE LANDSCAPE HERE, BUT NUMBER TWO, FLOODING DOWNSTREAM BECAUSE THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THAT'S NOT LOOKED AT CAREFULLY WITH THESE FOLKS, THEN THERE COULD BE ISSUES LATER OF REAL CONCERN. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? I THINK FROM A DRAINAGE STANDPOINT, WE DO LOOK AT THOSE IMPERVIOUS COVERS. SO THERE'S SOME BASIC KIND OF FUNDAMENTALS THAT WE LOOK AT FROM AN OVERALL SUBDIVISION STANDPOINT. TC HAS DONE SOME MODELING. ENGINEERING PRACTICE ASSUMES 50% OF EVERY LOT WILL BE IMPERVIOUS COVER.
SOME MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, SOME MAY BE A LITTLE BIT LESS. BUT STUDY AFTER STUDY THAT'S KIND OF THE AVERAGE. SO ALL OF THE DETENTION AND DRAINAGE IS IS CALCULATED BASED ON THAT KIND OF LOT COVERAGE. WE ALSO ARE UTILIZING ATLAS 14 RAINFALL DATA. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST THAN THAN KIND OF STANDARD. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ON ON THE DRAINAGE ISSUES. NOW LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF DRAINAGE WAYS IS IS AN ISSUE ALL ALONG. YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S ONE PROPERTY OWNER THAT OWNS A MILE OF CREEK. SOMETIMES IT'S 100 PROPERTY OWNERS. AND SOMETIMES YOU DO HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM, ESPECIALLY AFTER FLOODS. IF YOU GET A LOT OF DEBRIS OR BACKUP, YOU COULD HAVE INVASIVE SPECIES GROWTH. SO THERE'S ALWAYS THOSE CONCERNS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC LAND MANAGEMENT. WE LOOK AT PARKS, RECLAMATIONS FROM A FIRE STANDPOINT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ON THAT. FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, WE DON'T HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF REGULATIONS THAT WE LOOK AT THAT. BUT THE FIRE CODE ITSELF AND THE SUBDIVISION CODE DOES TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR THE NUMBER OF HOUSES, IT'S IT'S THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THE CODE HAVING BLOCK LENGTHS, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTIPLE WAYS INTO SUBDIVISION.
SO ANY ANY DEVELOPMENT OVER 30 HOMES. ONCE YOU HIT THAT TRIGGER YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO POINTS OF EGRESS. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ONLY TWO POINTS ARE THROUGH FLOODWAY THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE. SO THE GOAL IS IF DURING AN EMERGENCY OPERATION, WHETHER IT BE FLOOD, FIRE OR OTHER, THAT EMERGENCY SERVICES CAN AFFECT A RESCUE AND EVACUATION OF THE AREA. BUT I AM NOT AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EXPERT. SO I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO BE ONE. THANK YOU.
SOUND LIKE YOU COULD APPROACH IT. SO THE CONCERN HERE IS THAT THE RISK IS VERY LOW REALLY WITH FLOODING OR DRAINAGE ISSUES. BUT WILDFIRE RISK WOULD STILL EXIST. AND IN MY VIEW, AGAIN, HOA IN MOST INSTANCES IS NOT GOING TO HAVE THE THE FINANCES AND SO FORTH TO MAINTAIN 250 UNDEVELOPED ACRES. SO ANYBODY WHO IS LISTENING TO THIS TONIGHT AND WE'RE ALL I'M PUTTING MAKING IT OPEN HERE FOR OUR DISCUSSION, BUT I REALLY DO HAVE A DEEP CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL ALL SECOND THAT CONCERN, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE PLUM CREEK HOA FOR THREE YEARS. AND WE HAVE 2100 2200 HOMES IN THE AREA. AND, I MEAN, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKS AND LAKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, 1727 LOTS HERE. FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE, 250 ACRES IS GOING TO BE A BIG A BIG TASK, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ALL. AND I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH OF IT'S LANDSCAPED. HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH IS A, YOU KNOW, LEFT IS A GREENBELT, STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE MAINTENANCE, IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY BIG EXPENSE. AND I ONE THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE PASSED ON TO THE HOMEOWNERS. SO TWO FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS HERE. OFF TOPIC FROM THE HAZARD. I'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND. GOING BACK TO THE CHANGES IN THE LOT SIZES, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S AN OVERALL INCREASE IN DENSITY. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? YES WE ARE WE ARE. IT'S A NET 136 ADDITIONAL LOTS. AND IT MOSTLY OR A LOT OF IT CAME FROM REDUCING DOWN THE 60 FOOT AND 55 FOOT LOTS, DOWN TO A 40 FOOT OR 45 SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK. RIGHT. IT'S ABOUT
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HALF FROM THERE. AND THEN HALF WAS AN EXISTING REAR LOADING PRODUCT THAT THAT KIND OF RETROFITTED. AND THEN ON THE QUESTIONS ON THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SIDE AND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE 250 ACRES THERE, CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT OUR PURVIEW IS AND HOW MUCH WE COULD CONTROL OR HELP TO CRAFT AMENDMENTS TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AS A COMMISSION? OH, ARE YOU TALKING THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT OR JUST PROJECTS LIKE THIS IN GENERAL? LET'S DO THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT SINCE THAT'S THE TOPIC OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION. SO I THINK TONIGHT YOU'D BE HARD PRESSED TO TO HAVE A LOT OF TEETH TO KIND OF MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES, BECAUSE IT DOES MEET THE DA. YOU COULD DISCUSS WITH THE THE LANDOWNER IF THEY WOULD BE AMENABLE TO TO CHANGES. BUT AGAIN THE OPTIONS TONIGHT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DENY IT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DENY IT ON A VERY SPECIFIC SECTION OF CODE. YOU COULD RECOMMEND MODIFICATION APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS. BUT IF IF THE OWNER DOESN'T AGREE TO THOSE YOU KNOW, NEXT STEPS MIGHT GET A LITTLE MUDDY. LONG TERM THOUGH, YOU KNOW, AS WE DO A CODE REWRITE OR WE WORK WITH PARKS, THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH OFFICIAL PUBLIC SESSIONS OR OPEN HOUSES. AS WE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE CODE REWRITE, OR IF THAT'S JUST KIND OF REQUEST EMAILED THROUGH STAFF. HEY, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS. COULD YOU PLEASE FORWARD THIS ONTO PARKS? WE'D LIKE THEM TO LOOK AT EITHER PARKLAND FEES, PARKLAND DEDICATIONS. WHAT ARE THOSE REQUIREMENTS? I CAN TELL YOU, DAVID LOPEZ, OUR NEW PARKS DIRECTOR, HE'S PROBABLY BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW. THEY ARE LOOKING AT REVAMPING ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE FOR PRIVATE PARKS, THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDERED PRIOR TO TO HIS COMING ON. AND WE'VE WE'VE INSTITUTED SOME OF THOSE AGREEMENTS ON SOME, SOME AMENITY CENTERS THAT ARE IN TOWN. THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRIVATE, BUT THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND SO WE AGREED TO TO DO SOME MAINTENANCE ON THEIRS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING THERE, THAT THE EQUIPMENT IS SAFE AND PROPERLY HANDLED, AND EVEN WITH THOSE LONG TERM DISCUSSIONS AND CHANGES, IT STILL WOULD REQUIRE A REVAMP OF THE DA BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, I THINK FIRE RISK IS ALWAYS A CONCERN FOR EVERYBODY. THE AREA WE WE LIVE IN IN TEXAS, WE'RE JUST ALL UNDER FIRE RISK. THE WEATHER HAS NOT BEEN VERY FORGIVING FOR THE LAST 13 OR 14 YEARS. AS FAR AS WATER GOES, YOU KNOW, BUT OUTSIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION, YOU HAVE SINGLE LANDOWNERS WHO OWN 500 ACRES. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY STRUGGLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE KIND OF HAVE TO MONITOR, I THINK, WORK WITH OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR. THE BEST WE CAN DO IS PLANNERS IS MAKING SURE THAT A THE BUILDINGS ARE BEING BUILT TO CODE. SO HOPEFULLY THREATS OF FIRES AND ELECTRICAL ARE LESS AND THAT OUR ACCESS IS ADEQUATE. SO IF WE DO HAVE TO AFFECT EMERGENCY RESCUE WE CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU. TWO QUESTIONS. ONE SIMPLE. IS THE DEVELOPER HERE TODAY? YES. YES. RIGHT. NO. MAYBE. YES WE DO HAVE A REP. SWEET. IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE THEM EXPLAIN HOW THE HOA IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT LAND? SINCE THEY'RE HERE ALREADY, I WILL ASK THE REP TO COME UP AND STATE THEIR NAME AND SEE IF THEY CAN ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU.HI, I'M MONICA DALZELL. I'M THE DEVELOPER ENGINEER WITH GRACEVILLE. NICE TO MEET YOU.
LIKEWISE. SO YOUR QUESTION IS REGARDING FUNDING AND THE HOA. SO CURRENTLY ON THE NIEDERWALD ETJ SIDE, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT PHASE COMPLETELY BUILT OUT. IT'S 624 HOMES. THE HOA IS CURRENTLY MAINTAINING AN AMENITY CENTER AND OPEN SPACE. AND SO FAR WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES. AND FOR ANY SMALLER, LOTS MORE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. MOST LIKELY THOSE WILL BE MAINTAINED. AND SO WE'RE ALSO THE MUD ENGINEERS AND WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB SO FAR, MAINTAINING WHAT'S IN THAT FIRST MUD. AND I MEAN I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MAJOR ISSUES. SURE THING. AND SO PRESUMABLY YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE DOING SIMILAR PROJECTS LIKE THIS IN THE PAST.
HOW DOES THE HOA GO ABOUT COLLECTING FROM THE TAXPAYER OR THE THE RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COVER THAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE JUST FOR MY EDUCATION, IF NOTHING ELSE? OKAY, CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT REALLY INVOLVED IN THE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. GENERALLY, MOST HOA'S ARE SET UP A COUPLE WAYS. I'VE SEEN IT DONE. YOU KIND OF DO IT THROUGH ESCROW. IF YOU'RE KIND OF PURCHASING YOUR HOME OR IT'S JUST A QUARTERLY FEE. I'VE SEEN SOME DO YEARLY FEES JUST KIND OF DEPENDS. I KNOW WHEN I LIVED IN PLUM CREEK, IT WAS A QUARTERLY FEE DONE AND WE JUST KIND OF CUT A CHECK. SO THOSE KIND OF DETAILS GET SET UP IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS. I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THOSE ON THE ON THE
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HOA SIDE ON WHAT THOSE FEES ARE SUPER FAIR. THANK YOU. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. AT THIS PHASE OF THE PROJECT, WHAT TRIGGERED THE CHANGE THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT AS FAR AS THE QUANTITY OF HOMES AND THE CHANGE IN SIZE OF LOTS, IT WAS KIND OF REPRESENTED TO ME AS MULTIPLE FACTORS A LITTLE BIT, JUST THE ECONOMY KIND OF CHANGE AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND WHAT THEY'RE SEEING MARKETABILITY. SO AGAIN, THIS ONE WAS NEGOTIATED WAS ADOPTED IN 22. SO WE'RE ABOUT FOUR YEARS OUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS STARTED, BUT I KNOW THEY TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS. SO YOU KNOW THE MARKET CHANGES A LOT ON RESIDENTIAL ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING PRE COVID TO POST COVID. SO I THINK IT WAS JUST A MULTIPLE FACTORS THE EVOLUTION OF THE PROJECT, THE CHANGE IN THE MARKET AND THE CHANGE IN THE ECONOMY. SO HERE I, I BELIEVE INVENTORY IS EXTREMELY HIGH FOR HOMES ESPECIALLY NEW HOMES. SO WOULD THIS CHANGE TO MARKET CONDITIONS IMPROVE VALUE OF HOMES AND MAKE THEM MORE AFFORDABLE, OR IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY GO THE OTHER WAY? OH MAN, YOU ARE ASKING THE WRONG QUESTION ON THAT ONE. I HAVE THOUGHTS AND IDEAS. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE'RE AT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.IT COULD BE THAT, IT COULD BE THAT THAT IT IT RESETS THE MARKET A LITTLE BIT. I MEAN, RATES ARE BASED ON SUPPLY AND DEMAND FOR THE MOST PART. THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT AFFECT THAT. BUT I'D BE HARD PRESSED TO TO TELL YOU WHAT THAT WOULD GO. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM MY I HAVE ONE. YES. SO I KNOW WATER USAGE HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW AS IT PERTAINS TO TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS HAS BEEN A BIG TOPIC OF CONVERSATION. AND I THINK I'M ASKING MORE FOR, FOR EDUCATION THAN, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN OFFICIAL STANCE ON THIS ONE, BUT IS ADDING IS IS ADDING DENSITY, IS THIS REPRESENT A NET INCREASE OR A NET DECREASE IN WATER USAGE? AND I ASK BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MOST OF THE WATER USAGE ON A RESIDENTIAL LOT WENT TOWARDS IRRIGATION. SO I'M WONDERING IF ADDING THE DENSITY IS ACTUALLY REDUCING THE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THE SUBDIVISION IS GOING TO USE, OR IS ADDING THAT NUMBER OF LOTS EXPECTED TO INCREASE IT A LITTLE BIT? THAT'S HARD TO ANSWER. THAT'S NOT OUR WATER SYSTEM. SO THAT IS A THE GO FORTH WATER SYSTEM. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR OWN INTERNAL KIND OF DEAL, WE, WE WE LOOK AT AVERAGES DAILY USES. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE MOST LIKELY WOULD INCREASE. BUT DEPENDING ON LOT SIZE IT COULD DECREASE. YOU KNOW, A FAMILY IS GOING TO USE X AMOUNT OF GALLONS PER DAY IN THEIR HOME FOR WASHING, COOKING AND CLEANING IF THEY'RE ALL 40 40 FOOT WIDE LOTS. THE IRRIGATION USAGE MAY BE LOW. IF THERE ARE 60 FOOT PLUS LOTS IN POOLS, IT COULD GO UP, BUT I DON'T. I DON'T THINK I COULD ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT DOING ANY A FULL BLOWN STUDY OR CALCULATION. IT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON SUBDIVISION AND LOT SIZE. OKAY, YEAH, LANDSCAPING, DRIP IRRIGATION, YOU KNOW, JUST ALL KINDS OF THINGS. I DO KNOW FOR OTHER SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE ON OUR WATER, BUT MAYBE NOT IN OUR CITY LIMIT. WE STILL ARE STILL DROUGHT WATERING RESTRICTIONS DO APPLY TO THEM. SO JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE CITY, IF THEY'RE ON OUR WATER, THEY DON'T GET FREE REIN TO TO JUST GO. BUT THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS THEIR OWN MUD AND THEIR OWN WATER PROVIDER. YEAH. MAKES SENSE I IT WAS KIND OF A MORE OF A CURIOSITY AND WANTING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT AFFECTED IT. BUT NO, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS. SO I APPRECIATE THE ANSWER. NO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, COMMENT I WOULD HAVE IS IF YOU IF YOU AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, YOU'VE LEFT THIS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION WITH US BECAUSE SOME POINTS CAME OUT HERE THAT HAVE BEEN OF REAL CONCERN. AND WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE THE 250 ACRES OF DEDICATION THERE, THE LAND DEDICATION IS THAT WE HAVE NO REAL RECOURSE UNLESS THERE'S JUST SOME. IMPULSE TO COOPERATE WITH THE CITY ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE ANY CHANGES REGARDING THIS ARRANGEMENT. YEAH. AT THIS POINT, NO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A REQUIREMENTS.
THEY ARE BONDING IT. THEY DO HAVE TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS PER UNIT. I MEAN WE COULD DO THE MATH. I THINK IT WAS $500 A UNIT PLUS 250. SO 750 OVER THAT THOUSAND, ALMOST 2000 UNITS. SO
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THAT'S A GOOD CHUNK OF OF IMPROVEMENTS FOR, FOR THAT 250 ACRES. NOW I CAN'T SAY WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE TRAIL OR TEN TRAILS OR ONE TRAIL WITH AMENITIES, WORKOUT CENTERS, BENCHES, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY THEY WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT THAT BECAUSE PARKS WILL HAVE TO REVIEW THAT THAT IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND HOPEFULLY THEY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO IMPROVE IT. I JUST HAVE THIS NIGHTMARE VIEW OF THAT PLACE CATCHING FIRE. AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS WE CAN SAY THAT'S AN EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. THAT'S NOT KYLE. WE CAN SAY THAT. BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, KYLE, THE FIRE STARTED IN KYLE. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT REALLY IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION, REALLY, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE DEVELOPER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEMS 4 OR 5 AND SIX? CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION ON THAT ONE IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE ON? YES. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE, AYE. ALL[5) Consider approval of a final plat of Phase 1, Section 16, of the 6 Creeks Subdivision, consisting of approximately 45 acres of land out of the Samuel L. Pharass 1/4 League, Survey No. 14, Abstract 360, approximately located at the northwest of the Six Creeks Blvd. & Old Stagecoach Rd. intersection, at the end of Bedford Run. (SUB-24-0330)]
[6) Consider approval of a final plat of Phase 1, Section 17, of the 6 Creeks Subdivision, consisting of approximately 32.576 acres of land out of the Samuel L. Pharass 1/4 League Survey No. 14, Abstract 360, approximately located at the northwest of the Six Creeks Blvd. & Old Stagecoach Rd. intersection, at the end of Water Vine Rd. (SUB-24-0331)]
OPPOSED OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOING ON TO NUMBER FIVE, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A FINAL PLAT. PHASE ONE, SECTION 16 OF SIX CREEK SUBDIVISION CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY APPROXIMATELY 45 ACRES OF LAND OUT OF THE SAMUEL FERRIS ONE QUARTER LEAGUE SURVEY NUMBER 14, ABSTRACT 360, APPROXIMATELY LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST OF THE SIX CREEKS BOULEVARD AND OLD STAGECOACH ROAD INTERSECTION AT THE END OF BEDFORD RUN. IF YOU COULD GIVE US A JUST A BRIEF IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. ACTUALLY, IT MAY MAKE IT EASIER.YEAH. AND THIS WAS PHASE 16, I BELIEVE 16. SORRY. LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN BEEN A WHILE, ALMOST MONTHS SINCE I WROTE THIS. SO THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE IN THE SUBDIVISION. I DO NOT REMEMBER HOW MANY, HOW MANY LOTS THAT WERE PLATTED. THIS IS A PRETTY TYPICAL, JUST AN EXTENSION OF THAT PRELIMINARY PLAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WERE ANY CHANGES THERE. IF WE CAN GET ITEM NUMBER FIVE PRESENTATION UP IN THE BACK, THAT THAT'D BE GOOD. I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY LOTS, BUT THEY ARE DOING A COUPLE OF DETENTION, OPEN SPACE, DRAINAGE LOTS, DEDICATING THEIR TYPICAL ROADS TO SERVE THIS THIS AREA. HERE WE GO. THANK YOU SIR. SO HERE'S THE THE EXACT LOCATION ON THIS AREA. I KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IT ON THE AERIAL VIEW. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS JUST THE NEXT PHASE. BUT THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE. IT IS IN OUR ETJ. BUT IT IS A REGULATED VIA DAR AS WELL. SO THIS ONE IS 59 LOTS, ABOUT 32 ACRES. WE'RE LOOKING AT 56 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THERE'S SOME TWO OPEN SPACE, ONE DRAINAGE, LOTS THAT ARE LESS THAN AN ACRE, AND THEN ONE OPEN SPACE LOT THAT'S TEN PLUS ACRES, AVERAGE LOT SIZE, ALMOST HALF OF AN ACRE. THERE ARE THREE STREETS SLASH RIGHT OF WAY. THAT'S BEING DEDICATED FARMER BROOK LANE, BEDFORD RUN AND WATER VINE ROAD. THOSE ARE ASSOCIATED WIDTHS 50FT. AND THEY'RE THEY'RE LINEAR FOOTAGE.
TYPICAL UTILITIES ARE WATER AND CITY EASEMENTS ARE VERY HAVE BEEN GRANTED EITHER DRAINAGE OR OPEN SPACE. AND THEN OUR STANDARD THIS PARKLAND DEDICATION IS DONE AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THIS WAS REVIEWED BY THE PARKS BOARD. SO THEY PAY PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES OF $150 PER ACRE. SO THEY'LL BE PAYING THAT FOR THE 56 RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOR A TOTAL OF $8,400. AND THEN HERE'S JUST KIND OF A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OF EACH SHEET OF THE PLOT. I BELIEVE THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SIX. YES. THIS IS THE PRESENTATION FOR ITEM SIX.
WE NEED PHASE 16. THIS ONE 1716. SORRY. IN THE BACK. IF WE PROBABLY LISTED AS ITEM FOUR IN THE FOLDER. THANK YOU KIM. SO EVERYTHING I JUST SAID SCRATCH THAT. DIFFERENT DIFFERENT LOT NUMBERS. IT REALLY IS THE BASICALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGING. YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE SAME NAMES ON THERE. THIS IS THE SAME AREA AS YOU CAN SEE. SO THERE'S THE MAP LOCATION. SO HERE WE GO 109 LOTS IN THIS ONE 104 SINGLE FAMILY FOR OPEN SPACE LESS THAN AN ACRE. ONE OPEN SPACE AT TEN PLUS 0.32 AVERAGE. I GOT FOUR STREETS BEDFORD RUN, ALROY CREST, WATER,
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VINE, KYLE WATER, SEWER, VARIOUS EASEMENTS, SAME PARKLAND. DEDICATION 15,000 ON THIS ONE FOR THE CITY. SO WE'LL JUMP THROUGH THESE IMAGES REALLY QUICK. AND THESE ARE OUR OPTIONS TONIGHT. PROVE WAS PRESENTED PROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE. AND TO CONFIRM THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE FOR APPROVAL NOT A CHANGE IN AN EXISTING AGREEMENT. CORRECT. THIS IS FOLLOWING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PLAN. THAT WAS.I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THAT ONE WAS WAS LONG TIME AGO. THANK YOU. SO JUST A CONCERN OR QUESTION ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY. DEDICATION IS OVER HALF A MILE FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE. SO THIS MEANS THAT THAT STREET MAINTENANCE IS GOING TO FALL TO SOMEBODY. IS THAT ALSO GOING TO BE THE COUNTY OR DO YOU HAVE A MUD? NO, THAT WOULD BE THE COUNTY, I BELIEVE. I THINK THE CITY HAS SOME STORM DRAIN MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS AS PART OF THIS DA. IT'S NOT THE FULL MAINTENANCE, IT IS JUST THE STORM SEWER. I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE SECTION OF SIX CREEKS BOULEVARD THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CITY LIMIT, BUT THAT'S NOT BEING DEDICATED AS THIS PART. SO VERY TYPICAL FOR DEVELOPMENTS. IF THEY'RE NOT DOING PRIVATE ROADS AND THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, THE COUNTY'S ALWAYS PICK UP THAT THAT MAINTENANCE. THAT'S WHY YOU'LL TYPICALLY SEE KIND OF A A LESS STRINGENT STANDARD ON, ON ROAD CONSTRUCTION. YOU KNOW, THEY JUST THEY HAVE MORE PEOPLE AND MORE AREA. SO JUST A LITTLE DISCREPANCIES. YOU KNOW, WE MAY ASK FOR FOUR INCHES OF BASE. THEY MAY ASK FOR THREE. SO BUT IT IS BUILT TO COUNTY STANDARDS.
CITY STAFF DOES REVIEW THAT AS WELL AS THE COUNTY. DOES THE CITY STAFF HAVE ANY INFLUENCE OVER THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF THE ROAD, BASE AND ASPHALT OVERLAY? NOT AT THIS POINT, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME CODE UPDATES. WE'RE WORKING ON OUR CODE UPDATES. SO WE'RE HOPING WE WE CAN KIND OF PARTNER UP AND MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF OUR STUFF ALIGNS. SOME OF IT MAKES SENSE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN AREA THAT THAT YOU THINK MAY BE IN THE CITY ONE DAY. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT. YOU WANT TO BUILD THOSE TO CITY STANDARDS. SO IF THE CITY DOES ANNEX, THEY CAN TAKE UP STUFF THAT'S THAT'S NOT SUBSTANDARD BY A CITY PERSPECTIVE. THAT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. UNDER STATE LAW, IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO KIND OF ANNEX AREAS. SO BUT IN THAT CASE WE WOULD LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE. BUT YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED ADDRESSED MY CONCERN, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHOSE IS IT. AND FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GOT THE FINANCIAL OBLIGATION HERE ON OUT. IT IS NOT THE CITY, BUT THE TAXPAYERS WILL STILL BEAR THE BURDEN. THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. THESE ARE NOT PRIVATE ROADS. YES, SIR. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CALIPHATE. WE HAVE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I ALL OPPOSED. NO. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. SIX. TO. 24 SURVEY REPORTS. DISTRICT 1664. APRIL 6TH, 2016 100. THIS HAS BEEN PULLED AGAIN FOR THE SAME REASON AS THE LAST ONE. IT'S A DISCUSSION THAT. YES, SIR. SO THIS IS THE NEXT PHASE. I PREVIOUSLY HAD GONE OVER THE PRESENTATION WITH 59 LOTS, BUT.
THIS MUST BE DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY. YES OR NO? CORRECT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. MOTION BY CHAIR SIEGEL AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COPELAND. CAN WE HAVE A VOTE, PLEASE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED I. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
COMMISSIONERS. SIR. SO. ITEMS THREE AND SEVEN OF THE CONSENT AGENDA BE APPROVED. SECOND, DID
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WE WE DID. OKAY. WE MOVED ON FROM. YEAH, I THINK WE DID. WHAT HAPPENED THERE. SO THEN WE VOTE. WE DID VOTE. SO YES ON THREE AND SEVEN OKAY I LOST TRACK OF THAT. TWO LOTS[8) Consider and make a recommendation to the City Council regarding proposed amendments to a Planned Unit Development (Ord. 1028 and 1111) to revise the concept plan and zoning district boundaries of the Gregg Gardens subdivision. (Z-25-0141) Public Hearing ]
HAPPENED IN THE PAST TEN MINUTES OKAY. NEXT UP SIX CONSIDER AND POSSIBLE ACTION.CAN WE PULL UP THE PRESENTATION FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PROBABLY LISTED AS ITEM SEVEN, LISTED AS ITEM SEVEN IN THE FOLDER. MY NUMBERING WAS OFF. SORRY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING, KAYLA SHARP, SENIOR PLANNER. I'LL GO AHEAD AND RUN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. AND THEN WE CAN DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THAT AND FOLLOW UP WITH QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. SO TONIGHT WE HAVE A. PROPOSED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT FOR THE GREG GARDEN SUBDIVISION. SO JUST KIND OF TO SUMMARIZE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. THEY'RE LOOKING TO AMEND THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THE GREG GARDEN SUBDIVISION TO MODIFY THE ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AND CONCEPT PLAN. THE SUBDIVISION CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF RESIDENTIAL TOWNHOME ZONING, TWO DIFFERENT SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS, AND ALSO SOME RETAIL SERVICES.
ZONING UP ALONG VETERANS DRIVE. THE CHANGES TONIGHT ARE ONLY BEING PROPOSED FOR THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. THE ORIGINAL PUD WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 AND AMENDED IN 2021. AS I SAID, THERE ARE TWO SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS AND THEN THE TOWNHOMES AND RETAIL SERVICES. THE SUBDIVISION WAS PLATTED AND ALL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. HOWEVER, A NEW BUILDER HAS SINCE TAKEN OVER THE RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS, AND THEY ARE NOW PROPOSING AMENDMENTS TO THE PED TO IMPROVE THE SUBDIVISION. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TONIGHT WOULD MODIFY THE BOUNDARIES OF THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH MAY RESULT IN A CHANGE IN ACREAGE OF EACH ZONING DISTRICT, AND ALSO AN INCREASE OR DECREASE OF UNIT COUNTS FOR EACH PRODUCT TYPE. SO I KNOW THESE COLORS ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT THE PURPLE IS WHAT WE CALL THE R1 THREE ZONING DISTRICT. PRETTY STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. THE MIDDLE GREEN AREA IS R1 A, AND THE KIND OF BOTTOM RIGHT PORTION THAT'S LIKE A PINKISH RED IS THE TOWNHOMES. AND THIS IS THEIR EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT BOUNDARIES. WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. THIS WOULD SHIFT PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE TOWNHOMES TO FRONT GREG DRIVE. THIS WOULD ALSO ALLOW THEM TO IMPROVE NOAH STREET FROM AN ALLEY TO A TRUE STREET FOR ACCESS TO THE TOWNHOMES.
OVERALL, THERE'S SOME SLIGHT CHANGES. THERE ARE. THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE R1, A UNITS, THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WILL STAY THE SAME. THE BIGGEST CHANGE IS THE DECREASE IN TOWNHOMES FROM 52 UNITS TO 20. SO OVERALL, THE CURRENT PLATTED SUBDIVISION HAS ABOUT 210 TOTAL UNITS. THIS WOULD BRING IT DOWN TO ABOUT 189. THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING SOME AMENITIES TO THE OPEN SPACE AREAS. THERE WILL BE A SLIGHT DECREASE IN OPEN SPACE, BUT IT'S FAIRLY MINOR. AND LIKE I SAID, THEY'LL BE DEVELOPING THAT TO PROVIDE AMENITIES TO THE RESIDENTS. THIS IS KIND OF AN EXHIBIT JUST SHOWING WHAT SOME OF THE POTENTIAL AMENITIES MAY INCLUDE SOME WALKING TRAILS, DOG PARK, PLAYGROUND, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THE PROPOSED CHANGES WILL PRIMARILY IMPACT THE TOWNHOME ZONING BY REDUCING THE PROPOSED NUMBER OF UNITS.
AS I SAID, THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW THEM TO IMPROVE THE NOAA STREET THAT'S CURRENTLY FUNCTIONING AS AN ALLEY. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE TOWNHOMES WILL FRONT GREG DRIVE, BUT ACCESS WILL BE TAKEN FROM THE REAR ON NOAH STREET, AND AGAIN, THE PROPOSED UNIT COUNT WILL DECREASE. SO STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND DETERMINED EVERYTHING TO BE APPROPRIATE AND ALIGNED WITH OUR CURRENT CODES. AND THE PROPOSED CHANGES WILL STILL MAINTAIN A MIX OF PRODUCT TYPES WHILE ALSO IMPROVING ACCESS AND VEHICULAR CIRCULATION, AND ALSO ADDING THAT ADDITION OF THE OPEN SPACE AMENITIES AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE PUD, WHICH WAS NOT INCLUDED BEFORE. SO YOUR
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OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED, RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH MODIFICATIONS OR DENY, AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS PRESENTED. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN QUESTIONS AFTER. YEAH, LET'S OPEN THIS TO PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. ANYONE CARE TO COME FORWARD IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM REGARDING GREG GARDENS SUBDIVISION? IS THERE ARE NO FOLKS COMING FORWARD TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS I DROVE BY AND THEY'VE GOT A NEW SIGN UP. THEY DO? YES. IT SAYS RISE. WELL, I HOPE SO. THE THIS HAS BEEN OBVIOUSLY ONE THAT'S BEEN A BEE IN MY BONNET OVER TIME. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT SOMETHING'S HAPPENING HERE. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE LOSING SOME THINGS. I THINK THIS MAKES SENSE IN THE WAY THEY'VE RECONFIGURED THE THE PLAT THERE AND SO FORTH. SO ACTUALLY, I'M PLEASED THAT SOMETHING'S HAPPENING WITH IT.AND I THINK IT'S IT'S GOT ITS OWN ISSUES AND THE LOCATION IT'S AT, BUT IT'S INFILL AND IT'S NEEDED. SO, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT IN TIME I CAN COME BACK AROUND TO THIS AND WITH NO COMPLAINTS, OFFER MY SUPPORT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I THINK THE THE REVISION MAKES SENSE TO ENHANCE THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND ACCESS. I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE IF THERE WAS A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING, BUT KEEPING THE TOWNHOME DENSITY THE SAME OR EVEN MORE.
I THINK TOWNHOMES A PRODUCT THAT THE CITY REALLY LACKS AND I THINK IT COULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT'S LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY HAVE ANY ABILITY TO REQUEST THAT CHANGE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT IT WOULD AT LEAST BE A COMMENT I MAKE TO SAY I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP THE TOWNHOME QUANTITY. YEAH, AGREED.
I HAVE TO BACK UP ON THAT ONE. I MEAN, IT'S A SHAME TO LOSE THE DENSITY WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. FOR HOW LONG NOW, I MEAN. WE DO HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM ADDRESS THAT, CAN WE CAN WE GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING REAL QUICK? JUST I KNEW THAT WAS COMING CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO SAY. YEAH. HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT COUNTS FROM ROSWELL HOMES. HOW'S IT GOING? HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE. SO. IS THERE A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME GOAL BUT KEEP THE TOWNHOME QUANTITY SIMILAR EQUAL? I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE ROW OF SINGLE FAMILY THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE SWAPPED OUT FOR TOWNHOMES. IS THERE A REASON THAT DRIVES THAT THAT YOU FAVOR THE SINGLE FAMILY OPPOSED TO THE TOWNHOME MODEL? YES. I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE CIRCULATION, WE THINK IT WORKS BETTER WITH THIS LAYOUT. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO STEP TOO FAR, BUT MARKETABILITY, LIKE WHAT'S OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH WATERSTONE. THAT'S ALSO IN KYLE, THE PRODUCT THAT THEY'RE SELLING THERE IS SELLING AT LESS THAN ONE A MONTH. THEY'RE AT LIKE 0.5 A MONTH. AND WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BALANCE GIVING THAT TOWNHOME, ESPECIALLY LIKE YOU SAID, SINCE THERE'S THAT SCHOOL THAT'S RIGHT THERE. WE THINK IT'S A PERFECT FIT, RIGHT. FOR TEACHERS. WHATEVER HAVE YOU CAN CAN BUY SOMETHING THERE AND BE ABLE TO WALK TO SCHOOL. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE CAME UP WITH TO TRY TO BALANCE HEY THAT CIRCULATION WHAT THE PRODUCT DIVERSITY WE CAN OFFER BUT STILL BE ABLE TO SELL AND MAKE THIS A SUCCESS. SO THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE THAT MIX. SO THE WATERSTONE IS SELLING ONE TOWNHOME PER MONTH. YOU SAID LESS THAN LESS THAN 1000 SHOWS HIM SELLING 0.5. AND THAT'S JUST VERY BIG. TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW TRYING TO WORK THROUGH.
YEAH SELLING HOMES. AND THAT COULD BE A BIG BURDEN. SO WE SAID HEY LET'S WORK WITH STAFF AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. THAT COULD AT LEAST HONOR THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WAS TRYING TO HAPPEN HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON THE TOWNHOME DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THIS SUBDIVISION IS BUILT, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN SO TAP'S METERS. SO UNLESS TO CONVERT THE EXISTING KIND OF LOTS INTO TOWNHOMES WOULD, WOULD BE VERY KIND OF COST COSTLY AND TIME CONSUMING PROJECT, LET ALONE YOU'RE RIPPING OUT A LOT OF FRESH INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT THE ONLY OTHER WAY TO DO IT WOULD KIND OF LOSE ALL OF THAT GREEN SPACE. AND THEN YOU HAVE ACCESS ISSUES.
SO STAFF DOES FEEL THAT THIS WAS PROBABLY A GOOD COMPROMISE TO TO KIND OF IMPROVE A PRETTY NEGATIVE SITUATION WITH THAT ALLEY THERE. SO THE CURRENT METERS THAT ARE IN ARE BASED OFF THE THE DESIGNS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING TONIGHT OR. NO, NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OFF THE OLD
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DESIGNS WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT 50 TOWNHOMES. SO THERE'S A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY, ALL OF THOSE TAPS AND METERS. THEY'RE DOUBLE SERVICE WISE AT THE PROPERTY LINE. SO YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE APPLICANT TO TO REMOVE SOME OF THAT REDO THAT, THAT TOWNHOME AREA, THEY'RE GOING TO BE RIPPING OUT ALL THOSE METERS IN THAT ALLEY AND REDOING ALL OF THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT ON THE SINGLE FAMILY SIDE. AND THEN SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAD ON THE TOWNHOMES THAT WERE SHOWING, I GUESS, PLAN WEST, THEY HAD SOME ACCESS ISSUES THAT KIND OF CAME IN OFF THE CUL DE SAC, WERE REAR LOADED. SO WE THINK WE THINK CLEANING THAT UP JUST JUST HELPS US SUBDIVISION. OUR YOU KNOW, STAFF WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THIS SUBDIVISION.I THINK THIS WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST PRESENTATION I HAVE DONE FOR PNC. WHEN I WAS STARTING AT THE CITY. WE TRIED TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS THEN, BUT IT WAS KIND OF TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD. BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE THIS IS THIS IS A BIG BENEFIT FOR EVERYONE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND THAT MAY UTILIZE THAT COMMUNITY. YEAH, I THINK THE FLOW MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. IT LOOKED A LITTLE WONKY BEFORE, AND JUST PUTTING ANYTHING UP OVER THERE FINALLY WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY.
YEAH. SO MY SECOND BEST HOPE THEN WOULD BE YOU GUYS SELL MORE THAN FIVE TOWNHOMES A MONTH AND MODEL A MODEL IT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS TO ADD THAT PRODUCT. SO THANK YOU. YEAH I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CALHFA TOO REGARDING THE DENSITY AND THE LOSS OF TOWNHOMES. BUT SO IT GOES. I'M HAPPY TO SALVAGE WHAT'S THERE. OKAY. SO AND WITH THIS PROPOSAL PROCEDURALLY, THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE DEBATING HERE IS TO APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR TO NOT RECOMMEND. BUT REGARDLESS IT GOES UP TO COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON WHATEVER THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS OR NOT. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AWESOME. AND THEN THE PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT THAT WE SAW FROM THESE PLANS, IF IF THE CITY DECIDES NOT TO PROCEED WITH AN AMENDMENT, THAT LAND WOULD REMAIN PARKLAND, JUST UNDEVELOPED, IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT'S CONSIDERED OPEN SPACE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
IT'S CONSIDERED OPEN SPACE. SO WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE DEVELOPERS, I BELIEVE THE INTENT IS KIND OF TO MONETIZE THAT FOR RESIDENTS. THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF ADDING IT AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE PLOT. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OF TEETH IN IT SO WE CAN SAY, HEY, LOOK, YOU NEED TO HAVE THIS OPEN SPACE IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE TO THIS EXHIBIT THAT YOU AGREED TO WITH THESE PLAN AMENDMENTS. SO IF THE AMENDMENTS AREN'T APPROVED, THEY COULD STILL DEVELOP THAT OPEN SPACE AS AN AMENITY FOR RESIDENTS. THIS JUST GIVES US THE OPTION TO OR THE ABILITY TO KIND OF HAVE IT AS A LITTLE BIT OF A REQUIREMENT. OKAY. AND SO I DEFINITELY SHARE THE ANXIETY OF IF ALL OF OUR MASTER PLANS AND DESIGN DOCUMENTS TALK ABOUT INCREASING DENSITY WITHIN THE CITY, AND WE GO FROM 52 DOWN TO 25 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS LIKE THAT, THAT SEEMS TO GO AGAINST THE SPIRIT. BUT IF IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ALTERNATIVE IS REALLY SLOWER DEVELOPMENT AND INABILITY TO MOVE PRODUCT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT TRADE OFF.
SO THIS IS IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT PER OUR COMP PLAN, OF COURSE, THIS ORIGINAL PUD WAS APPROVED WELL BEFORE OUR NEW COMP PLAN. SO THIS KIND OF DOES BALANCE SOME OF THE DENSITY. THE R1, R3, AND R1-A ARE OUR MOST DENSE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT. SO THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, MAXIMIZING ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THEY CAN HAVE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO PROVIDING THAT DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY WITH TOWNHOMES. AND WE GET MORE TEETH WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARKLAND.
CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I THINK THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN GOOD. AND AGAIN, I'M I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING THIS PROJECT TO RISE FROM THE DEAD AND RAN THE RISK OF BEING A ZOMBIE DEVELOPMENT STANDING EMPTY AND COVERED WITH WEEDS, WHICH IT WAS. SO I'M HAPPY FOR THIS PERSONALLY, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. EIGHT I SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY, THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CALIPHATE. LET'S HAVE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? IS THAT AN I, MR. WEBB? AN I. COMMISSIONER WEBB, CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY YOUR VOTE? OH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE ASKING ME. NO, NO, NO, THAT WAS I'M IN FAVOR. I VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT. UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED MY ITEM EIGHT. THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A
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LITTLE LAG ON THE MICROPHONE THERE. APOLOGIES. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER NINE. SOUTH MAIN STREET[9) Consider approval of a Conditional Use Permit for a Martial arts studio and leasable office/retail space located at 111 S. Main Street. (CUP-25-1048)]
CUP 25 1048. PRESENTER MISS SHARP, IF WE COULD BRING UP THE NEXT SLIDE SHOW NUMBER EIGHT.ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, KAYLA SHARP, SENIOR PLANNER. LAST ONE FOR THE EVENING. THIS ONE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR 111 SOUTH MAIN STREET. YOU'LL HAVE SEEN THIS ONE PREVIOUSLY. I'M SURE SOME OF YOU WERE NOT ON THE DAIS, BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE, THIS MAY LOOK FAMILIAR. THIS IS FOR A PROPOSED RETAIL BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MARY HARTMAN PARK. THEY ARE SEEKING TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT AS A TWO PHASE DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL BE FOR PHASE ONE, WHICH WILL CONSIST OF AN APPROXIMATELY 3900 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL SPACE. PHASE TWO WILL ADD AN ADDITIONAL 2500FT■!S, ALG WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING OLD CHURCH BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY THERE. SO THIS SITE IS IN BOTH THE I-35 AND CENTER STREET OVERLAYS. THE CENTER STREET OVERLAY DOES NOT HAVE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS LIKE THE I-35 OVERLAY DOES. THIS IS ALSO IN THE ORIGINAL TOWN AREA FACING THE PARK. THIS FACADE FITS INTO THE KIND OF LATE 1800S CENTRAL TEXAS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, BLENDS VERY NICELY WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON AROUND DOWNTOWN, AND ESPECIALLY THE PARK. THIS IS A PROPOSED MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL, WHICH WILL OCCUPY ABOUT 2000FT■, AND THE REMAINDER IS PLANNED TO BE LEASED TO SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES. THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED, WHICH WILL CONSIST OF RESTRIPING OF EXISTING PARKING SPOTS IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AND SEVEN ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES CONSTRUCTED ALONG MILLER STREET WITHIN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO HERE IS YOUR SITE PLAN THAT IS COMPLIANT WITH ALL RELEVANT CITY CODES. AND THEN THE ELEVATION. SO WE'VE GOT LOTS OF NICE BRICK DEFINITELY FITS INTO THE STYLE OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS AND THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING. SO THE FACADE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED WITH 100% BRICK AND INCLUDE APPROPRIATE GLAZING FOR THE AREA AND METAL TRIM ACCENTS.
STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FOUND THE PROPOSAL TO BE COMPLIANT WITH BOTH OVERLAY DISTRICTS, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. SO YOUR OPTIONS THIS EVENING ARE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR DENY THE REQUEST. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OKAY, I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT. I'LL ASK THE QUESTION. I KNOW THE CITY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS A GRANT APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO HELP DEVELOP THE ESTHETICS AND FACADES OF DOWNTOWN. I'M SURE THERE COULD BE SOME DISCUSSION THERE TO ASSIST THAT APPLICANT IF HE WANTS IT. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THEY CAN REACH OUT. I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED ONCE BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM BOARD, SO IT MAY GO BACK. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO LET'S SOMEONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM. MOTION TO APPROVE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION. THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOUCK. AND NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. CAN WE HAVE A VOTE, PLEASE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, 5 TO 0.
THANK YOU. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE ARE
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