Feb 17, 2026 City Council Regular Meeting

OKAY. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO CLOSE. YEP. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE EXECUTIVE

[I) Call Meeting to Order, Roll Call, and Excuse Absences]

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[II) Approval of Minutes]

SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER TO MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS. SECOND BY HARRIS.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. OKAY. UP NEXT WE HAVE

[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

WE PLAN TO RETIRE SOON. AND THIS PRICE GOUGING FOR A BASIC NECESSITY IS GOING TO IMPACT

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ONE NIGHT AFTER THE MEETING HIT ON ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER NIGHTS AFTER THE MEETING HAD ENDED, I APPROACHED MIKE TO DISCUSS THE RATES FURTHER. STANDING NEXT TO HIM WAS MAYOR MITCHELL, WHO TOLD ME THAT THE BEST THING THAT SIXTH CREEK'S RESIDENTS COULD DO WAS TO PETITION THE COUNCIL TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, AND IN RETURN, SIX CREEKS. CREEKS WOULD GET THE IN-CITY RATES AND A TAX RATE OF 0.27 BASIS POINTS. HE ALSO SAID THAT WAS THE SAME DEAL HE HAD GIVEN TOLL BROTHERS, WHICH I LATER FOUND OUT WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I LATER LEARNED EXCUSE ME, SO PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY BECAUSE I WILL LAUGH. SIX CREEKS ALREADY PAID THE CITY TAX UP FRONT WITH THE PIT BONDS, BECAUSE THE CITY WAS TOO CHEAP WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT WAS BUILT TO FRONT THE MONEY. TAXING SIX CREEKS NOW IS PLAINLY DOUBLE TAXATION AT THE. AT THIS POINT THE CITY IS BUILDING SIX CREEKS ABOUT $200,000 A MONTH IN OVERAGES. ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY HAS FAILED TO AMEND AND UPDATE ITS OWN CHAPTER 50 ORDINANCE, WHICH LIMITS ALL RATE INCREASES TO 1.2 TIMES THE PRIOR YEAR'S RATE.

NOT ONLY WAS IT NOT AMENDED, BUT IT WAS BURIED ON A CONSENT AGENDA TO MAKE IT APPEAR LEGITIMATE AND THEN REMOVED IN ITS ENTIRETY FROM THE CITY'S DOCUMENTS WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S ATTENTION. YOU NOW HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY BILLING THE ENTIRE ETJ FOR THAT OVERAGE FOR FOUR MONTHS NOW, AND IT GETS WORSE WITH EACH PASSING MONTH. SO IN THE EVENT YOU CAN'T DIG A DEEP A HOLE DEEP ENOUGH, I GUESS THAT YOU SHOULD FIND A BIGGER SHOVEL. LANGLEY HAS STATED IN HIS LETTER TO ME THAT HE STOOD BEHIND THE RAFTLESS STUDY, NEVER MENTIONING THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. DO YOU KNOW WHY? OR HAS ANYONE EVEN BOTHERED TO ASK? WELL, IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A CLAUSE IN THE RULES OF THE UTILITY COMMISSION THAT STATES THAT A MUNICIPALITY CAN INCREASE RATES TO THIS DEGREE OF RIDICULOUSNESS ONLY IF THEY PRODUCE A WATER RATE STUDY. IN RESEARCHING OTHER JURISDICTIONS RAFTLESS IS INVOLVED IN, IT APPEARS THEIR WORK IS MORE THAN A WING AND A PRAYER. AND JUST TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS CASE, FOR KYLE, IT APPEARS THAT THE CITY BUDGET. THE CITY'S BUDGETED DOLLARS WERE NEEDED, AND THEY WERE THE ANSWER. AND TELL US CREATED THE PROOF BY REVERSE ENGINEERING THE SOLUTION. HAS ANYONE IN CITY COUNCIL WRITTEN THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE CHECKLIST OF DOCUMENTS? RAFTLESS WANTED TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT. THE REAL ISSUE HERE IS THAT CITY COUNCIL IS UTTERLY DEPENDENT ON THE CITY MANAGER AND ATTORNEY TO GIVE THEM ACCURATE AND UNBIASED LEADERSHIP AND DIRECTION. YOU HAVE NO RESOURCES AND ARE DENIED THEM WHEN YOU ARE ASKED. IT IS UTTERLY AN IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION WHICH I DO NOT ENVY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UP NEXT, I HAVE DOMINGO CASTILLO.

MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. MY LAST NAME IS CASTILLO. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TWO ISSUES. FIRST ONE IS I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE KYLE LIONS CLUB, AND WE'RE HAVING A FUNDRAISING ACTIVITY THIS COMING FRIDAY. IT'S H HALL HERE IN KYLE, AND IT'S TO RAISE FUNDS FOR CERTAIN ACTIVITIES WE HAVE HERE IN KYLE. ONE IS WE PROVIDE VISION AND HELP FOR SOME OF THE VISION COSTS FOR SOME OF SOME OF OUR CITIZENS. AND WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL

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TONIGHT, I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE HUMAN ELEMENT AND THE HARDSHIP YOUR DECISION TO RAISE THE WATER RATE HAS CAUSED. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK EACH OF YOU TO TAKE A SECOND AND IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE GOING INTO RETIREMENT. YOU HAVE YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY, PROBABLY A 401 K, AND YOU HAVE THE HOME YOU WANT TO SPEND YOUR REMAINING YEARS IN. NOW IMAGINING OPENING UP YOUR WATER BILL. AND THE AMOUNT IS 500 TO $800. EACH YEAR YOU HAVE PROJECTED TO HAVE AN INCREASE IN WATER RATES FOR ETJ NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WATER BILLS ARE PROJECTED TO BE $900 PLUS BY 2029. HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT ON A RETIREMENT INCOME? HOW DO YOU EXPECT RETIREES, VETERANS, AND FAMILIES TO PAY ON A MONTHLY BASIS THIS EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT? I RECEIVED MY FIRST WATER BILL AT THE END OF JANUARY. IT WAS FOR $127. I'M SURE YOU'RE THINKING THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH. HOWEVER, THIS WAS ONLY FOR A PERIOD OF THREE WEEKS, NOT A FULL MONTH, AND FOR ONLY ONE PERSON IN THE HOME. LET ME TELL YOU HOW I LIVE. I ONLY USE THE WASHING MACHINE EVERY 7 TO 8 DAYS. I EAT OFF PAPER PLATES SO I DON'T HAVE TO USE THE DISHWASHER AS MUCH. I COLLECT WASTEWATER IN MY SINK AND I USE IT TO SOAK POTS OR FLUSH THE TOILET. I DON'T WASH MY HAIR AS MUCH AS I USED TO AND FORGET ABOUT THE LAWN. I USE A TRICKLE OF WATER TO WASH MY HANDS. NO ONE THINKS ABOUT HOW MUCH WATER, HOW MUCH THEIR WATER BILL INCREASES EVERY TIME THEY WASH THEIR HANDS. I DO, BECAUSE I'M AFRAID I WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PAY MY WATER BILL. WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE LIKE THIS IN YOUR RETIREMENT YEARS? I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT PEOPLE THINK SIX CREEKS IS A WEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THAT COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. THE NEIGHBORS ARE MY RIGHT ARE RETIRED, AND ON MY LEFT IS A WORKING FAMILY. THE MAN ACROSS THE STREET WORKS, BUT HIS WIFE IS CURRENTLY UNEMPLOYED WITH TWO CHILDREN. I'VE HAD TWO ELDERLY LADIES REACH OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE TERRIFIED THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD THEIR MORTGAGE PAYMENT DUE TO THEIR HIGH WATER BILL. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS FILLED WITH FAMILIES, RETIREES, AND VETERANS, NOT WEALTHY PEOPLE, AND WE CANNOT AFFORD EXPENSIVE WATER BILLS. I WILL BE RETIRING IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. MY REQUEST TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL IS TO PLEASE LOWER THE WATER RATE. IF RATES AREN'T LOWERED, I WILL HAVE TO SELL MY RETIREMENT HOME, WHICH MANY OTHERS IN SIX CREEKS ARE ALREADY DOING, BECAUSE NO ONE CAN AFFORD THESE RATES. OUR RETIREMENT INCOME WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT US IN A HIGH WATER BILL EACH MONTH IN THIS EVER INCREASINGLY EXPENSIVE ECONOMY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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RESPONSIBILITY EITHER OUTCOME IS A WIN FOR THIS CITY. REFUSING AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW DOES NOT BUILD TRUST. AVOIDING TRANS DOES NOT CALM CONCERNS, BUT CHOOSING ACCOUNTABILITY SENDS A VERY POWERFUL MESSAGE THAT THIS COUNCIL VALUES OPENNESS, STEWARDSHIP AND THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO KNOW. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT A FORENSIC AUDIT NOT OUT OF SUSPICION, BUT OUT OF RESPONSIBILITY, NOT OUT OF POLITICS, BUT OUT OF PRINCIPLE. I WANT TO SAY TWO MORE THINGS.

SINCE I'VE HEARD OTHER PEOPLE SPEAKING. PLEASE HONOR THE CONTRACT FOR SIX CREEKS. QUIT IGNORING IT. AND THE NEXT THING IS, WE'RE ALREADY $1 BILLION IN THE HOLE FOR THIS YEAR OVER.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A BILLION MORE PLANNED. QUIT SPENDING MONEY. THANK YOU. I THANK YOU. UP NEXT, I HAVE BETTY CONLEY. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BETTY CONLEY. I THANK EVERY ONE OF YOU UP THERE. I'M THANKING YOU ALL FOR THE SENIOR CENTER. I WENT AND LOOKED. YOU CAN'T SEE MUCH THROUGH THE WINDOW, BUT I'M TOO EXCITED TO EVEN WAIT.

AND SO ARE THE SENIORS. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT UNDER THE OLDER AMERICAN ACT, THE OAA, A SENIOR CENTER, IS A COMMUNITY FOCAL POINT. IT SERVES AS A GATEWAY TO THE NATION'S AGING NETWORK. WE HAVE MANY, MANY SENIORS THAT ARE JUST ECSTATIC THAT THERE IS A SENIOR CENTER READY FOR US TO GET INTO. TODAY'S SENIOR CENTERS ARE REINVENTING THEMSELVES TO MEET THE NEEDS AND DESIRES OF THREE GENERATIONS OF OLDER ADULTS.

BABY BOOMERS NOW CONSTITUTE MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE 50 PLUS POPULATION. SENIOR CENTERS ARE DEVELOPING NEW PROGRAMS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS DYNAMIC GENERATION OF OLDER ADULTS, AND HAVE AN EYE TOWARDS THE FUTURE, WITH THE LEADING GENERATION X TURNING 60 IN 2025. SO WE ARE SO EXCITED TO HAVE THE ROOM FINALLY THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE ALL THESE GENERATIONS, ALL THESE SENIORS AND ALL THE THE YOUNGER PEOPLE TOO, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMS AND WE ARE JUST THANKFUL TO EVERY ONE OF YOU UP THERE THAT HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY AND HARD TO HELP OUR SENIORS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UP NEXT, I HAVE LARRY GOLIC. MAYOR COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WATER RATE IMPACT ON KYLE. IS IT REASONABLE, IS IT JUST AND IS IT NONDISCRIMINATORY? THESE ARE THINGS THAT PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION IS GOING TO ASK. THIS RATE INCREASE HAS AFFECTED

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THE CITY'S FALSE CLAIM THE 20 2526 WATER AND WASTEWATER FAQ POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AS OF RIGHT NOW, STATES THE MAJORITY OF YOUR BILL IS BASED ON HOW MUCH WATER YOU USE.

THAT'S FALSE. THE CITY'S OWN AVERAGE SAYS 5500 GALLONS IS WHAT AN AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD WILL USE. WELL, IF YOU TAKE THAT 5500 GALLONS AND YOU BREAK IT OUT TO BASE THE WATER AND THE WASTEWATER RATES FOR IN CITY CUSTOMERS, 54% OF THAT GOES JUST FOR THE CONNECTION FEE.

FOR OUTSIDE CITY, IT'S A 5050 SPLIT. SO NEITHER IN CITY OR OUTSIDE OF CITY FOR 5500 GALLONS. IS THE MAJORITY OF YOUR WATER BILL THE WATER YOU USING? IT'S JUST THE CONNECTION.

FOR THE AVERAGE OR LESS THAN AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD. THE MAJORITY OF THEIR BILL IS THEIR MINIMUM MONTHLY CONNECTION FEE. NO WATER INCLUDED. THE CITY'S OWN MATERIAL CONTRADICTS THEIR PUBLIC MESSAGING. THE DISPARATE IMPACT ON THE AVERAGE OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMER. THE RATE INCREASE REVEALED A STAGGERING, INEQUITABLE INCREASE INSIDE CITY CUSTOMERS, ON AVERAGE, ON THAT 5500 GALLON MONTHLY USAGE SAW AN AVERAGE BILL INCREASE OF $18.07. THE OUTSIDE CITY CUSTOMER AVERAGE BILL ROSE BY $93.84, A 520% DIFFERENCE. FOR ONE OF LIFE'S BASIC NECESSITIES.

NOT ALL ETJ RESIDENTS LIVE IN SIX CREEKS OR ANTHEM OR CROSSWINDS. THEY LIVE ON FIXED INCOMES AND SMALLER COMMUNITIES ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN. THIS ISN'T A MANAGEABLE ADJUSTMENT.

THIS IS POTENTIALLY INSURMOUNTABLE. COUNCIL'S FAILURE TO EXAMINE THE FACTS.

THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL WAS CLEARLY BLIND TO FACTS, WITH THE NOTABLE EXCEPTION OF COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, WHO UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE REVIEWED. THIS WASN'T NEGLECT BORN OF HIDDEN INFORMATION. THE CITY'S OWN CONSULTANTS PREPARED THESE FINDINGS. THE DATA WAS AVAILABLE. THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL CHOSE NOT TO RECKON WITH IT. YOUR COMMUNITY IS STRUGGLING.

HOW WILL YOU RESPOND? I THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE DIANE HARVELL. MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DIANE AND I LIVE AT 1528 AMBERWOOD LOOP. I WANT TO SPEAK IN REFERENCE TO SEVERAL AGENDA ITEMS. FIRST ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE NEGOTIATING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR A NEW WATER UTILITY AND PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING? AT THIS TIME, THERE APPEARS TO BE MULTIPLE STUDIES AND CONSULTING AGREEMENTS UNDERWAY. FROM A TAXPAYER PERSPECTIVE, IT FEELS EXCESSIVE AND POTENTIALLY UNNECESSARY. MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHAT IS THE PROJECTED TIMELINE AND FINANCIAL PLAN THAT DEMONSTRATES WHEN THE CITY CAN REALISTICALLY AFFORD ANOTHER FACILITY? I WOULD APPRECIATE CLARITY ON FUNDING SOURCES, PRIORITIZATION, AND LONG TERM FISCAL IMPACT BEFORE MOVING FORWARD. ITEM NUMBER 20 COMMITTEE. IT'S IN REGARDS TO COMMITTEE STAFFING. WHY ARE THESE COMMITTEES NOT PRIMARILY STAFFED WITH CITIZENS SUPPORTED BY ONE COUNCIL LIAISON AND ONE CITY STAFF MEMBER? THE CURRENT STRUCTURE APPEARS TO RELY HEAVILY ON COUNCIL AND STAFF PARTICIPATION, WHICH COULD SPREAD BOTH GROUPS VERY THIN. CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT INCREASES TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. PLEASE EXPLAIN THE REASONING BEHIND THE CURRENT STRUCTURE AND WHETHER ALTERNATIVE MODELS WERE CONSIDERED. ITEM NUMBER 23.

THIS WAS IN REGARDS TO ROBIN. BASED ON THE BACKUP MATERIALS, THE BEST I CAN TELL IT APPEARS WE ARE WAY OVER BUDGET ON THE ROAD BOND PROJECTS. IF THAT IS THE CASE, THIS SHOULD BE ALL THE MORE REASON TO REDUCE SPENDING IN OTHER AREAS AND FOCUS ON COMPLETING THE PROJECTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO AND APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. WHAT IS THE PLAN TO ADDRESS THESE OVERRUNS? ARE THERE COST CONTROLS IN PLACE TO ENSURE WE COMPLETE WHAT WAS PROMISED WITHOUT FURTHER FINANCIAL STRAIN? THEN ITEM NUMBER 25. THIS ITEM IS IN REGARDS TO THE WENDY HILL PROJECT. PLEASE CLARIFY FOR ME THE PROPOSED EGRESS AND INGRESS SPECIFICALLY

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SHOULDN'T PERFORMANCE STANDARDS INCLUDE PENALTIES FOR FAILURE TO COMPLETE BY AN AGREED UPON DEADLINE, RATHER THAN ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION? AND LASTLY, ITEM NUMBER 28. WHY WOULD COUNCIL MEMBERS CONSIDER ALLOWING OTHERS TO CONTROL, CONTROL, OR SIGNIFICANTLY INFLUENCE THE AGENDA SETTING PROCESS? THAT APPEARS TO DIMINISH THE AUTHORITY ENTRUSTED TO EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL BY THE VOTERS? COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY. I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER THIS CHANGE STRENGTHENS TRANSPARENCY AND REPRESENTATION, OR WEAKENS INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND AUTHORITY. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

UP NEXT I HAVE STEPHANIE MCDONALD, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 23 AND ASK YOU TO PAUSE ALL ROUNDABOUTS PLANNED ROUNDABOUTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS OF CONSTRUCTION ON THE 2022 BOND, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER AREAS THAT CAN BE WORKED ON BESIDES ROUNDABOUTS. PLEASE PAUSE THESE UNTIL THEY ARE REVIEWED FOR SAFETY AND TO DETERMINE IF ROUNDABOUTS BEST OPTION FOR EACH LOCATION, THE CITY'S ROUNDABOUT POLICY NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. IT'S IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION 3823. IT STATES ROUNDABOUTS SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED UNLESS THE PROPERTY NEEDED CANNOT BE ACQUIRED BY THE CITY. THERE'S NO WORDING STATING THE ROUNDABOUT WILL BE PLACED IF IT'S THE SAFEST OPTION OR IF IT'S THE BEST OPTION. LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL HAS A TWO LANE ROUNDABOUT. THERE WILL BE NEW DRIVERS CHANGING LANES, ENTERING AND EXITING THE ROUNDABOUT DURING HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES. WHILE CHILDREN ARE TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET NEARBY. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO GET THIS RIGHT. THE TIME IS NOW FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE CITY. THE RESIDENTS I'VE HEARD UP HERE SPEAKING TO YOU HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT FOR THE CITY TO GO BACK TEN YEARS TO REVIEW THE PAST TEN YEARS. WE ALL KNOW THAT IT WILL COST MONEY, BUT WE JUST CANCELED A POCKET PARK AT SIX CREEKS BY THE HERITAGE OAK THAT WAS GOING TO COST THE TAXPAYER $784,000, AND THE COUNCIL EVEN CONSIDERED ADDING A PARKING LOT IN ADDITION TO THE PARK. I DON'T ANTICIPATE A FORENSIC AUDIT WILL SURPASS THAT AMOUNT. THE CITY HAS LOST THE TRUST OF THE RESIDENTS, AND THIS IS A STEP TO RESTORE THAT TRUST. PLEASE ADD DISCUSSION OF A FORENSIC AUDIT TO THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 28 IS A STAFF SPONSORED ITEM CONCERNING THE RESOLUTION APPROVING. CONCERNING THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THREE SUBCOMMITTEES. WHY VOTE ON THIS ITEM NOW? WHEN THE COUNCIL VOTED ON FEBRUARY 20TH, ON FEBRUARY 3RD ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23, WHICH WAS A COUNCIL SPONSORED ITEM, TO LISTEN TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR'S PRESENTATION ON THE HISTORY OF A PREVIOUS FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, WHICH INCLUDED BRINGING BACK OPTIONS TO REINSTATE THIS COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE INCLUDED RESIDENTS. WHY WASN'T THAT ITEM PLACED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? INSTEAD OF PLACING THAT ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU'RE PROPOSING THESE SUBCOMMITTEES. WHY VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT? BEFORE HEARING THE FINANCE DIRECTOR'S PRESENTATION? IS IT BECAUSE YOU DO NOT WANT THE RESIDENTS INVOLVED IN THE COMMITTEE? HOW ARE YOU DECIDING AND PRIORITIZING WHAT GOES ON THE AGENDA? CURRENTLY, THE AGENDA IS SET AND APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR.

ACCORDING TO THE CITY CHARTER, SECTION 3.07, WHICH NEEDED NO CHANGE WHILE THE FORMER MAYOR WAS IN OFFICE. ALSO ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEES. THIS WILL OBVIOUSLY CREATE SO MUCH MORE WORK FOR THE CITY STAFF AND COUNCIL. IT WILL TAKE MANY MORE MEETINGS THAN THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

MEMBERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THEIR MEETINGS UNTIL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS. BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE OF RULES OF QUORUM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL

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THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE HOWARD CONNELL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WANT TO SPEAK ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE ISSUE HERE. I ENTITLED IT COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE DIVIDE, CONQUER AND CONTROL. IN MY OPINION, THIS PROPOSED PLAN APPEARS TO BE A STRATEGIC MANEUVER TO UNDERMINE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION AND CONSOLIDATE POWER IN THE HANDS OF OUR CITY MANAGER. IT SEEMS THE PLAN STRUCTURE WOULD NECESSITATE A SIGNIFICANT TIME COMMITMENT FROM CITIZENS LIKE MYSELF, POTENTIALLY DOMINATING MY WEEKLY SCHEDULE, ATTENDING MULTIPLE COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT PROVIDE 100 AND 80S FOR EACH SPEAKER'S COMMENTS. AS A RETIRED INDIVIDUAL, I HAD ANTICIPATED HAVING MORE FLEXIBILITY IN MY SCHEDULE. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FOLKS STILL WORKING FULL TIME JOBS WITH EXTENDED TRAVEL TIMES AND STUCK IN GRIDLOCK? THE PROPOSED MEETING STRUCTURE, POTENTIALLY SPANNING MULTIPLE DAYS, WOULD REQUIRE A SUBSTANTIAL TIME INVESTMENT, LIKELY DEMANDING AT LEAST SIX HOURS TWICE A MONTH. THAT'S AN UNSUSTAINABLE SCHEDULE MONTH AFTER MONTH AFTER MONTH FOR VOLUNTEER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITIZENS ALIKE. I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS PLAN OBVIOUSLY PRIORITIZES CONVENIENCE OVER TRANSPARENCY AND WONDER WHOSE INTERESTS REALLY SERVING. LIMITING COUNCIL DEBATE TO SPECIFIC TOPICS BY COUNCIL COMMITTEES MAY INADVERTENTLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY POLARIZATION AND COMMITTEE ALLIANCES INSTEAD OF ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, SHOULD FOCUS ON SERVING THE COMMUNITY NEEDS RATHER THAN SPECIAL INTERESTS. PRIORITIZING EXPEDIENCY OVER TRANSPARENCY. I AM CONCERNED THIS PLAN MAY SET A TROUBLING PRECEDENCE. I WANT TO HEAR DIVERSE PUBLIC OPINION AND COUNCIL REACTIONS TO POTENTIALLY ALL AGENDA ITEMS. SHOULD THIS PLAN BE MATERIALIZED, THE BETTER CITIZENS COULD HOPE FOR FOR ATTENDING A COUNCIL MEETING WOULD BE TO HEAR BATCHES OF PREDETERMINED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE, PUBLIC COMMENT SESSIONS WOULD ONLY SERVE TO CHECK OFF THE BOX REQUIRED FOR OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS. DIVIDE, CONQUER AND CONTROL IS NOT A GOOD IDEA FOR A CITY PARTICULARLY CORRUPTED AND AT WAR WITH ITSELF, AS IT SEEMS TO BE. KYLE IS VOTE NO ON THIS NIGHTMARE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UP NEXT, I HAVE KHUSHI PATEL. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KHUSHI PATEL AND I'M BACK BECAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THE MATH ON OUR RECENT BILLS. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT RATE INCREASES HAPPEN, THE CURRENT CHARGES FOR REALLY UNFAIR TO THOSE OF US IN ETJ. WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND THE DIFFERENCE IS HARD TO IGNORE. WHILE THE AVERAGE INSIDE THE CITY BILL WENT UP BY ABOUT $18, OUR BILLS IN SIX WEEKS WENT UP BY NEARLY $94. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SURROUNDED BY THE CITY OF KYLE, SO IT'S CONFUSING TO SEE SUCH A BIG PRICE JUMP COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN CYPRESS FOREST OR HOMETOWN KYLE. OUR DEVELOPMENT PYD FUNDS ACTUALLY HELPED BUILD THE UTILITIES, THE UTILITIES THE CITY IS ACTUALLY USING TO SERVE EVEN MORE NEW HOMES. SO IT'S TOUGH TO HEAR THAT WE HAVE TO PAY SO MUCH MORE FOR LONGER LINES. ON A PERSONAL NOTE, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE SEPTEMBER AND IT'S BEEN A LOT OF A LOT TO CARRY AS A STUDENT. I'M LOSING SLEEP OVER THIS BUILD, AND IT'S MAKING IT HARD FOR ME TO EVEN FOCUS ON MY SCHOOLWORK. IT SHOULD. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WORRIED ABOUT BASIC UTILITIES. AND HONESTLY, NOBODY ELSE IN OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE TO BE THIS WORRIED EITHER. IT IS NOT FAIR THAT MOST OF ANYONE'S

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BECAUSE WE LOVE THE COMMUNITY AND PLAN TO RETIRE HERE. WE'RE RETIRING NEXT YEAR AND WILL BE ON A FIXED INCOME. AND RISING WATER COSTS ARE DEEPLY CONCERNING. WATER IS A BASIC NECESSITY, YET THE LARGE RATE HIKE AND FUTURE INCREASES ARE FINANCIALLY OVERWHELMING. ON A FIXED INCOME, THERE'S NO FLEXIBILITY WHEN UTILITIES RISE SO SHARPLY, SOMETHING ELSE HAS TO GIVE. WE'RE NOT ALONE. RETIREES, YOUNG FAMILIES AND WORKING HOUSEHOLDS IN SIX CREEKS ARE FEELING THE STRAIN OF RISING WATER BILLS. OUR REALITY IS, WITH THE CURRENT STEEP WATER RATE HIKES, WE MAY BE FORCED TO SELL OUR HOME. BUT THEN WE HAVE TO ASK WHO WOULD BUY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH EXTREMELY HIGH WATER RATES? JUDGING FROM THE NUMBER OF HOMES NOT SELLING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NUMBER OF RENTERS MOVING OUT DUE TO THE LARGE INCREASE IN WATER RATES, IT APPEARS HARDLY ANYONE WOULD. THIS RISES OUR CONCERN ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND PROPERTY VALUES. WE SEE CLEAR ANSWERS ON HOW YOU WILL PROTECT RESIDENTS ON FIXED INCOMES. WE LOVE OUR HOME AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WANT TO STAY. BUT THIS AND FUTURE WATER RATE HIKES THREATENS THAT. WE'VE WORKED HARD AND SAVED FOR RETIREMENT.

BUT THESE INCREASES ARE TURNING OUR DREAM INTO A POTENTIAL NIGHTMARE. A CITY SUCCESS SHOULDN'T COME AT RESIDENTS EXPENSES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE CITIZENS COMMENTS IS CLOSED. NEXT IS AGENDA ORDER. WOULD ANYBODY

[IV) Agenda Order]

[3) A proclamation recognizing President George Washington Day.]

ALL RIGHT, SO WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WAS ESTABLISHED FOLLOWING THE WAR OF REVOLUTION FROM 1776 TO 1783, A WAR, A WAR WON THROUGH THE BRILLIANT AND COURAGEOUS LEADERSHIP OF GEORGE WASHINGTON, REVERED FATHER OF OUR NATION. AND WHEREAS GEORGE WASHINGTON, WHO LIVED FROM 1732 TO 1799, MOBILIZED THE CONTINENTAL ARMY AND LED THE AMERICAN COLONIES AGAINST THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, FINALLY DEFEATING THE BRITISH AT THE FAMOUS BATTLE OF YORKTOWN, VIRGINIA. AND WHEREAS THE REVERED FOUNDER OF OUR NATION RESISTED THE EFFORTS OF MANY SUPPORTERS TO MAKE HIM A KING OR DICTATOR, INSTEAD USING HIS INFLUENCE AND POWER TO SUPPORT THE CREATION AND ADOPTION OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. AND WHEREAS GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS ELECTED AS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, SERVING TWO TERMS OF OFFICE FROM 1789 TO 1797, AND THROUGH HIS DEVOTION, WISDOM, AND VISION, BECAME THE EXEMPLAR OF DISTINGUISHED LEADERSHIP FOR ALL FUTURE PRESIDENTS. AND WHEREAS, THE WILLIAM HIGHTOWER CHAPTER OF THE SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION WISHES TO ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON TO OUR NATION BY CELEBRATING HIS BIRTH ON SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 22ND, 2026. NOW, THEREFORE, I, YVONNE

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ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OOPS. OKAY, I GOT THE FANCY CAMERA TODAY. AND NOW IT'S LIKE GOING IN AND OUT OKAY. 123. AWESOME. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

[4) A proclamation recognizing Black History Month.]

I AM PRESENTER CLAUDIA ZAPATA. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE WASN'T A FORMAL REQUEST TO HAVE THIS PROCLAMATION, BUT IT'S THE 100 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH BEING OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED. SO I FELT IT PERTINENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT HERE IN THE CITY. SO WHEREAS BLACK HISTORY MONTH BEGAN IN 1926 AS HISTORY WEEK, FOUNDED BY DOCTOR CARTER G. WOODSON AS AN INTENTIONAL ACT OF RESISTANCE AGAINST THE EXCLUSION OF BLACK HISTORY FROM TEXTBOOKS, CLASSROOMS, AND PUBLIC MEMORY. TAKING 50 YEARS OF ADVOCACY, SCHOLARSHIP, ORGANIZING, AND CULTURAL PRESSURE BEFORE IT WAS FORMALLY RECOGNIZED AS A MONTH LONG NATIONAL OBSERVANCE IN 1976, REMINDING US THAT THIS COMMEMORATION IS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT AMERICAN HISTORY HAS TOO OFTEN ERASED THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF BLACK LEADERS. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF KYLE PRESERVES AND HONORS THE FULL BREADTH OF ITS HISTORY, INCLUDING THE KYLE RAILROAD DEPOT AND HERITAGE CENTER, THE KYLE PIONEER FAMILY CEMETERY, HISTORICALLY REFERRED TO AS THE OLD KYLE SLAVE CEMETERY, RECOGNIZED IN 2015 BY THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, AND SKYVIEW CEMETERY, FOUNDED IN 1899 AS THE KYLE CEMETERY FOR COLORED PEOPLE AND THROUGH HONORING THE PUBLIC SERVICE OF MATTIE WELCH, KYLE'S FIRST ELECTED AFRICAN AMERICAN CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. FORMER COUNCIL MEMBERS RAY BRYANT AND DEX ELLISON, AND FORMER MAYOR JAMES ADKINS. AND WHEREAS BLACK WOMEN HAVE CONSISTENTLY LED TRANSFORMATIVE MOVEMENTS IN THIS COUNTRY, OFTEN WITHOUT THE CREDIT PROPORTIONATE TO THEIR IMPACT, INCLUDING SHIRLEY CHISHOLM, THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN ELECTED TO CONGRESS WHO BECAME THE FIRST WOMAN AND FIRST BLACK CANDIDATE TO SEEK A MAJOR PARTY'S NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT IN 1972. DOROTHY HEIGHT, WHO FOR 40 YEARS SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF WOMEN AND WAS A STRATEGIST IN THE FIGHT AGAINST LYNCHING AND FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM. HAZEL JOHNSON, WIDELY RECOGNIZED AS THE MOTHER OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE MOVEMENT, WHO EXPOSED DISPROPORTIONATE PLACEMENT OF TOXIC WASTE IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS. AUDRE LORDE, SCHOLAR AND POET WHOSE FOUNDATIONAL CRITIQUES OF RACISM, SEXISM, HOMOPHOBIA, AND SYSTEMS OF POWER RESHAPED ACADEMIC DISCOURSE. MARSHA P JOHNSON, A BLACK TRANSGENDER WOMAN WHOSE COURAGE AT THE FOREFRONT OF LGBTQ+ LIBERATION MOVEMENTS EXPANDED THE MEANING OF CIVIL RIGHTS AND BODILY AUTONOMY. AND, ODDLY, QUEEN MOTHER MOORE, A LIFELONG ADVOCATE FOR REPARATIONS AND PAN-AFRICAN SOLIDARITY. AND WHEREAS, SOJOURNER TRUTH WROTE, IF THE FIRST WOMAN GOD EVER MADE WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO TURN THE WORLD UPSIDE DOWN ALL ALONE, THESE WOMEN TOGETHER OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO TURN IT BACK AND GET IT RIGHT SIDE UP AGAIN. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT PROCLAIMED BY THE CITY OF KYLE THAT FEBRUARY 1ST THROUGH MARCH 1ST, 2026 SHOULD BE CELEBRATED AS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN APPRECIATION

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[5) Recognize the Kyle Employee(s) of the Quarter for Quarter One of Fiscal Year 2026. This recognition honors employees who exemplify the City’s core values of teamwork, accountability, integrity, visionary leadership, and transparency. ]

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS JULIE BEGGS, AND I SERVE AS YOUR DIRECTOR OF TALENT AND CULTURE FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. TONIGHT, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN NOMINATED AND SELECTED BY THEIR PEERS FOR DEMONSTRATING THE KYLE CORE VALUES. THESE VALUES INCLUDE VISIONARY LEADERSHIP, INTEGRITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND TEAMWORK. AND THEY WERE ADOPTED THIS FISCAL YEAR AFTER MONTHS OF INTERNAL DISCUSSION, COLLABORATION AND FEEDBACK FROM OUR EMPLOYEES.

DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THE EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT COMMITTEE FELT STRONGLY THAT THE KYLE CORE VALUES BE A PART OF AN EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION PROGRAM. THIS PROGRAM IS EMPLOYEE BASED, SUPPORTED AND SCORED, AND AFTER THE NOMINATION PERIOD CLOSES, A REVIEW PANEL COMPRISED OF EMPLOYEES, NOT MANAGERS. REVIEW SUBMISSIONS AND DECIDE ON WHO BEST EXEMPLIFIED THE CORE VALUE FOR THAT QUARTER. TONIGHT, IT IS MY PRIVILEGE OF SHARING THE NAMES OF THE FIVE CITY EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE BEEN SELECTED AS EMPLOYEE OF THE QUARTER QUARTER. ONE FISCAL YEAR 2026. WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE THE NAMES WITH YOU AND OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE COMMENTS THAT WERE WRITTEN ON THEIR BEHALF. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE AN AWARD FOR THEM TO SIGNIFY THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT AND HOPEFULLY SHOW AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED TOGETHER.

RECIPIENTS ARE HERE. AND SO WHEN I SAY YOUR NAME, IF YOU WILL JOIN ME AT THE PODIUM, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THE FIRST IS DOGGO PATES. OFFICER PATES DEMONSTRATES VISIONARY LEADERSHIP THROUGH HIS PROACTIVE AND PEOPLE CENTERED APPROACH TO RECRUITMENT FOR THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. HE INVESTS SIGNIFICANT TIME WITH APPLICANTS, CREATING A WELCOMING EXPERIENCE AND BUILDING STRONG CONNECTIONS THAT REFLECT THE VALUES OF THE CITY. BY CONTINUOUSLY DEVELOPING A STRONG PIPELINE OF QUALIFIED CANDIDATES. EVEN WHILE STAFFING LEVELS ARE NEARLY FULL, HE ENSURES THE DEPARTMENT IS WELL POSITIONED FOR FUTURE SUCCESS AND CONTINUES TO ATTRACT TOP TALENT TO SERVE THE CITY OF KYLE.

THANK YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU HIS AWARD THAT YOU RECEIVED. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO NOTE, THANKS TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND OF THESE

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CONGRATULATIONS. ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICER JAMES PLANT, OFFICER PLANT CONSISTENTLY GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND HIS ROLE THROUGH DEPENDABLE LEADERSHIP AND A STRONG COMMITMENT TO SERVICE.

HE SUPPORTS COMMUNITY EVENTS SUCH AS GRINCH FEST, SANTA RIDES, AND COFFEE WITH A COP BY ENSURING CLEAR COORDINATION AND SMOOTH OPERATIONS, OFTEN VOLUNTEERING HIS OWN TIME DURING THE WEEK AND ON WEEKENDS. HIS PROFESSIONALISM, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND POSITIVE EXAMPLE STRENGTHEN TEAMWORK AND BUILD TRUST BETWEEN THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT TO AMY. KRISTEN LAITINEN KRISTEN DEMONSTRATES TRANSPARENCY BY ENSURING CITY INFORMATION IS ACCURATE, ACCESSIBLE AND REGULARLY UPDATED, GIVING THE COMMUNITY CLEAR INSIGHT INTO BUDGETS, KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AND STRATEGIC PROCESS. SHE WORKS CLOSELY WITH TEAMS ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION, OFFERING SUPPORT AND FLEXIBILITY TO ENSURE DATA IS REPORTED CORRECTLY AND ON TIME. THROUGH HER OVERSIGHT OF THE CITY'S TRANSPARENCY PAGE AND HER ABILITY TO TURN COMPLEX DATA INTO CLEAR VISUAL STORIES, SHE IS REBUILDING TRUST AND CONFIDENCE WITH THOSE THAT WE SERVE. KRISTEN ACTUALLY HAD A PRIOR COMMITMENT TONIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO ASK HER DIRECTOR MARCO, TO COME UP AND ACCEPT ON HER BEHALF. WE CAN STILL CLAP FOR HER. YES. THANK YOU MARCO. AND TEAMWORK IAN MAGUIRE IAN EXEMPLIFIED TEAMWORK DURING THE LIBRARY RENOVATION PROJECT BY SERVING AS THE LEAD POINT OF CONTACT FOR VENDORS AND COORDINATING CARPET, PAINT AND MOVING SCHEDULES. WITH A COLLEAGUE ON LEAVE, HE TOOK ON FULL RESPONSIBILITY, ARRIVING EARLY, STAYING LATE AND WORKING WEEKENDS TO KEEP THE PROJECT ON TRACK. HIS POSITIVE ATTITUDE, STRONG COORDINATION AND WILLINGNESS TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND ALLOWED TEAMS AND VENDORS TO WORK EFFECTIVELY TOGETHER AND ENSURE THE RENOVATION WAS COMPLETED ON SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF HIGHLIGHTING THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THESE FIVE EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE SUCH EXCEPTIONAL TALENT AT THE CITY, AND IT'S AN HONOR TO TAKE A MOMENT AND SAY THANK YOU AND SHARE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT QUARTER. YEAH, YEAH. I THINK WE'LL TAKE A QUICK PICTURE. ARE WE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE? CAN WE CAN WE SAY A FEW WORDS REAL QUICK JUST BECAUSE I KNOW I WANT TO, BUT I'LL LET OTHER PEOPLE GO FIRST IF THEY WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THESE AMAZING EMPLOYEES, I'LL SAY SOMETHING. YEAH, I KNOW, I SAY ALL THE TIME THAT THAT OUR STAFF MAKES ME LOOK GOOD ALL THE TIME. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS BEING THE, YOU KNOW, THE CREAM OF THE CROP, AT LEAST FOR THIS QUARTER, IS A TRUE TESTAMENT TO TO HOW EXCEPTIONAL THAT IS. LIKE, WE HAVE SUCH A PHENOMENAL STAFF. AND TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS GET RECOGNIZED IS A HUGE DEAL. SO PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK IS WHAT I'M SAYING. SO BECAUSE I SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH ABOUT YOU WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN THE ROOM. SO YEAH, CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND INCLUDING BATES. AND THEN, OF COURSE, PLANTS. WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR 20 YEARS. EVEN BACK THEN. I SAW A DRIVE IN YOU WHEN WE WERE AT TRAVIS COUNTY TOGETHER. AND THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, LIKE WITH THE CITIZENS ON PATROL, CITIZENS ACADEMY, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE THROUGH THE YEARS, ESPECIALLY BLUE SANTA AND U2 AS WELL, AND AS WELL AS YOU CITY STAFF. THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO, BUT CONGRATULATIONS IS WELL DESERVED ON ALL FOR Y'ALL. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WHEN WE'RE UP HERE READING OVER THE AGENDA ITEMS AND TALKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONCEPTS, RIGHT? THAT CAN SEEM PRETTY ALOOF. AND SO IT'S GREAT TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE AND HEAR THE

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT EVERYBODY READY. MAKE SURE I DON'T HAVE MY LENS CAP ON ONE, TWO THREE. OKAY.

AWESOME. THANK YOU GUYS. I'M JUST SETTING THIS UP. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT, WE HAVE CONSENT. BUT, BRIAN, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE OKAY IF WE MOVED TO 24 UP BECAUSE YOU SAID THEY'RE THEY'RE ATTORNEYS? YES. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. YEAH, WE'D BE GLAD TO DO ITEM 24. SO.

ALL RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO JUMP AROUND HERE A LITTLE BIT. ITEM 24. YES. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THEY'RE ON THE CLOCK. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. UP NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AGENDA ITEM 24

[24) Consider approval of a resolution finding public convenience and necessity and authorizing the use of eminent domain to condemn, if necessary, a public utility easement over two (2) parcels of land containing a total of 2,420 SF (0.056 AC) (as described in Exhibit “A” to the Resolution) from certain real property owned by Eufemio Castillo and Julia Castillo for the public use and purpose of construction utility improvements for the Center Street (Off System) Project. (ROLL CALL VOTE REQUESTED)]

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SIMPLE TITLE IS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE A PARTICULAR PUBLIC USE FOR THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY. IN THIS SITUATION, THE PCN FINDS THAT THE CENTER STREET SYSTEM PROJECT IS NECESSARY AND REQUIRED TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THE ACQUISITION OF THE IDENTIFIED PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CITY ARE UNABLE TO REACH A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT, THE PCN AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO INITIATE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCEEDINGS AND, IF NECESSARY, TO ACQUIRE THE NEEDED PROPERTY. SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR COUNCIL ACTION TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, FINDING PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY, AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO CONDEMN, IF NECESSARY, A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OVER TWO PARCELS OF LAND CONTAINING A TOTAL OF 2420FT■!S, OR 0.056 ACRE, AS DESCRIBED IN EXHIBIT A TO THE RESOLUTION FROM CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY EUFEMIO CASTILLO AND JULIA CASTILLO FOR THE PUBLIC USE AND PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTION UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM PROJECT AND OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OR OPTION TWO TO DENY THE RESOLUTION. AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING OPTION ONE. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS.

GOOD ON THE RECOMMENDATION WAS WHAT WAS THE REASONING. AND JUST FOR THE VISIT BECAUSE OF THE OBVIOUSLY FOR THE ROAD BOND. BUT HAVE WE HAVE WE MADE ANY CONSENSUS WITH THE ACTUAL OWNER THEMSELVES. IS THERE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP? ITSELF? THERE'S THERE'S PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE BACK THERE AND. DO WE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THOSE WITH THOSE? IS THAT THE SAME THE SAME PEOPLE THERE THAN IS THAT LIVE THERE. SO YEAH. SO THE SITUATION I MIGHT, MIGHT ASK CAN OUR ATTORNEY TO HELP HELP ME WITH THIS. BUT THE THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE THE CASTILLOS. THEY DO HAVE A RESIDENT WHO'S BEEN LIVING THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND SO THERE IS, SO TO SPEAK, A KIND OF KIND OF A DUAL INTEREST IN THAT PROPERTY. AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO BASICALLY TAKE THIS FORWARD AND KIND OF CLARIFY THAT AS FAR AS THE SETTLEMENT OF THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. THAT'S THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO CAN CAN WE CONFIRM, BECAUSE IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE NO DISAGREEMENTS FOR THE AMOUNT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER UNDERLYING ISSUES AS FAR AS WHO WOULD GET PAID. IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. SO I GUESS BASED ON THAT, I GUESS I'M GETTING OVER MY SKIS. I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO COUNCIL. SORRY. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL CAN'T SEEK OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION. THAT IS CORRECT. THERE IS A TITLE DISPUTE. AND MY UNDERSTANDING FROM VISITING WITH THE NEGOTIATORS IS THAT NONE OF THE PARTIES NECESSARILY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE AMOUNT OF COMPENSATION, BUT THEY JUST CAN'T DECIDE WHO'S ENTITLED TO IT. SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS NECESSARY. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO FOR FUTURE SITUATIONS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO EMINENT DOMAIN, AND WE CAN WRITE A CHECK TO WHOEVER THE LAND IS DEEDED TO. WE CAN WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. MAYOR. IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT EVERYONE INVOLVED HERE HAS A LEGITIMATE CLAIM. AND SO IT'S NOT UP TO THE CITY TO ADJUDICATE WHO GETS WHAT. THAT'S THAT'S GOT TO BE ON THE COURT. WELL, IS THERE OKAY, OKAY. HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS, BECAUSE IF MY HOUSE IS DEEDED TO ME AND I LIVE ON THERE, THEN THE CITY IS THEN OBLIGATED TO GIVE THAT TO ME BECAUSE FACTUALLY IT'S THE DEED IS UNDER MY NAME. CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. IF THERE'S A SITUATION USING YOUR EXAMPLE, IF YOUR HOUSE IS DEEDED TO YOU AND THERE HAD BEEN SOMEONE LIVING IN YOUR BACKYARD FOR 20 YEARS AND THE CITY NEEDED TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE INTEREST OF THE PERSON THAT HAD BEEN LIVING IN YOUR BACKYARD. THE CITY COULD WRITE A CHECK TO BOTH YOU AND THE PERSON LIVING IN THE BACKYARD, BUT THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES, WHO'S GOING TO CASH IT? YEAH, COULD YOU WRITE BOTH THEIR NAMES ON IT AND WHO'S GOING TO ENDORSE IT? THAT'S NOT THAT'S IS THAT OUR CONCERN? AGAIN? AGAIN, MAYOR, WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS IS WE JUST LET THE JUDGE ADJUDICATE WHO WHO THE MONEY GOES TO. I GUESS IF EMINENT DOMAIN WAS NOT BEING USED FOR THAT, I COULD UNDERSTAND. BUT SINCE WE'RE HAVING TO USE EMINENT DOMAIN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, I WOULD JUST WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR ON OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHO WHO THE CITY SHOULD EVEN BE PAYING IT TO. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE EMINENT DOMAIN SO THAT IT CAN GO TO THE COURT SO THAT A JUDGE CAN DETERMINE WHO WHICH PERSON GETS WHAT. YEAH, BUT IF YOU WROTE A CHECK TO BOTH OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE COURT ON THEIR OWN ANYWAYS WITH IT GOING. SO THE EMINENT DOMAIN

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SURE. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF KYLE AUTHORIZE THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OVER TWO PARCELS OF LAND CONTAINING A TOTAL OF 0.056 ACRES FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER BY CASTILLO AND JULIA CASTILLO, AS DESCRIBED IN AGENDA ITEM 24. FOR THE PUBLIC USE OF CONSTRUCTING UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CITY'S CENTER STREET OFFICE SYSTEM PROJECT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM DOBIAS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A ROLL CALL VOTE. GARZA. YES. TOBIAS. YES, MA'AM. MCKINNEY. YES. MEDINA. YES.

FLORES. KALE. YES. HARRIS. YES. ZAPATA. YES. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SEVEN ZERO ITEM PASSES. OKAY.

[VI) Consent Agenda]

[7) Consider approval of a resolution authorizing the City Manager to negotiate a Professional Services Agreement with Randall Scott Architects, Inc., which will be brought back for council approval at a later date, to provide architectural design services for a new Water Utilities and Public Works & Transportation headquarters building.]

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. SO THIS PROJECT IS TO HIRE OR IS TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER INTO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH RANDALL SCOTT ARCHITECTS. THIS FIRM WAS SELECTED FROM A GROUP OF ABOUT 8 OR 10 OTHER ARCHITECTS. AND WHAT THIS IS, IS TO START THE DESIGN WORK NECESSARY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC UTILITIES FACILITY TO HOUSE WATER, UTILITIES, WASTEWATER, TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS, FLEET SERVICES, A FUELING STATION, AND A LARGE TRUCK TRUCK WASHING FACILITY. SO THE REASON BEHIND THIS, THIS CURRENTLY PUBLIC WORKS SITS ON

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SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE DID WAS WE SENT OUT REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

WE ADVERTISE ON AUGUST 11TH AND CLOSE IT ON SEPTEMBER 18TH. 19 SUBMITTALS WERE RECEIVED. IN RESPONSE. WE NARROWED THAT NUMBER DOWN, AND THEN WE SELECTED RANDALL SCOTT AS OUR AS OUR SELECTED CHOICE. AND THIS IS BASED ON EVALUATION BY STAFF, STAFF PANEL. AND RANDALL SCOTT ARCHITECTS WAS OBVIOUSLY THE ONES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO GO FORWARD. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS WE KNOW THIS IS A BIG ASK FOR FOR WATER, UTILITIES, PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION. AND OUR GOAL IS TO WORK LIKE YOU JUST APPROVED EARLIER TONIGHT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ACQUIRING. AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO A SITE ASSESSMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT AND SURVEYS GET ON THAT PROPERTY.

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AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC PIECE OF THE PROPERTY THAT, I MEAN, THE LAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I DO HEAR THE CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE SPENDING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING. A LOT OF THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THIS AND THE FEASIBILITY FOR A LOT OF THIS. MY MY THING WAS, IS AND YOU HEARD ME SPEAK IN BACK THERE WAS IF THERE'S A WAY TO WHERE WE COULD BE ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE CONCEPT DESIGN WOULD BE, LET'S SAY IF WE DECIDE WHERE THE PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR OFFICE BUILDING WHERE A MAINTENANCE BARN WOULD BE, THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE ALL YOUR VEHICLES COME IN FOR MAINTENANCE. WOULD THIS ALSO BE ABLE TO YOU THINK, SUPPLY ANY OF THE MAINTENANCE OR EQUIPMENT FOR PARKS AND REC? LET'S SAY THEY NEEDED MECHANIC WORK DONE TO WHERE IT'S A COMBINED USE. LIKE I WAS SAYING BEFORE, MORE OF LIKE A CITY OF IOWA CITY PUBLIC WORKS COMPLEX AREA WHERE YOU HAD THE FUELING STATIONS FOR ALL THE VEHICLES, INCLUDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO COME IN TO UTILIZE VERSUS HAVING TO USE GAS STATIONS AND SO FORTH. I HEAR WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING, THAT WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THESE THINGS. IT IS IT IS A CONCERN OF MINE AS FAR AS THE BUDGET, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ACCUMULATE THE MONEY FROM, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS FROM. BUT SO I'M NOT SO MUCH ON THE FENCE AS FAR AS THE NEED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S THERE, BUT IT'S THE SUSTAINABILITY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY BECAUSE OF OUR INCREASE IN WATER, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY AT A STAGE 3 OR 4. I BELIEVE ALSO THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THERE OFF OF 150, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER THEY COME BACK WITH THE DESIGNS, THEY LOOK AT EVERYTHING. AND MY OTHER ASK WOULD BE IS COULD WE GET PUBLIC FEEDBACK? COULD WE DO A TOWN HALL? COULD WE DO SOMETHING TO WHERE WE COULD SHOW THE RESIDENTS? THIS IS A BIG PROJECT THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING AT DOING AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS, OR EXPLAINING TO THEM THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND ACTUALLY ADD IN THE COST. IS IT GOING TO BE 20 MILLION? IS IT GOING TO BE 10 MILLION? THE LAND ITSELF AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE ANOTHER BIG PROJECT WE HAVE THAT'S THAT'S A TIME TICKING RIGHT NOW IS THAT ANIMAL SHELTER. SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS ARE GOING ON IN THEIR CITY. AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE HEARING FROM WE'RE THE ONES THAT HEAR FROM THE RESIDENTS THE MOST. BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO WHERE WE COULD GET THAT FROM, THE IF THIS PASSES THROUGH, WE CAN GET A REAL NARROW DOWN AS FAR AS WHAT THE SCHEMATICS ARE GOING TO BE AND WHO'S GOING TO UTILIZE IT AND GO FROM THERE. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN. YES. ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE DISCUSSED. I THINK THERE'S A STUDY THAT IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, AND IT WILL DETERMINE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE POLICE VEHICLES. OBVIOUSLY, PARKS AND REC WILL BE A PART OF THIS FACILITY BRINGING THEIR EQUIPMENT IN. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A LARGE EQUIPMENT BAY IN THE FLEET AND THE FLEET SERVICES SECTION OF THIS. OF THIS DESIGN, THERE WILL BE A LARGE EQUIPMENT BAY FOR OUR LARGE DUMP TRUCKS. YOU KNOW, VACTOR TRUCKS, LARGE WATER TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WILL WORK ON ONE SIDE AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER SIDE OF THAT GARAGE WILL BE FOR SMALL EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS LIKE THE PICKUPS, THE FOUR WHEEL DRIVE PICKUPS, NORMAL PICKUPS, POLICE VEHICLES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT IS THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN THE FLEET. AND WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR THIS LOCATION? WAS THERE OTHER SITES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A POSSIBILITY? WHAT WAS THE REASONING FOR THE WHY THIS YOU GUYS DECIDED ON THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION? WELL, WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS A REALLY GOOD SITE FOR US. WE STARTED THIS ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO. IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, WE WE HAD A

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THIS WILL BE A TOTALLY GATED FACILITY. WE'LL DO ALL THE ESTHETICS NECESSARY WITH WITH HIGH QUALITY CAST IRON FENCE AND MASONRY TO, TO SORT OF SHIELD IT FROM VIEW. BUT WE ARE PLANNING ON USING BOTH 150 AND THE SERVICE ROAD ON 35. OKAY. AND, AND BASICALLY WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT WITH THE, YOU CAN SEE WITH THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING FACILITY RIGHT THERE, YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THAT WE'RE USING 150 SOLELY. AND THIS GIVES US ANOTHER ACCESS POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT I YIELD I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA. SORRY MIKE WOULDN'T TURN ON. SO I KNOW WE SPOKE EARLIER ON THE AGENDA ITEM OR EXECUTIVE ITEM WE APPROVED EARLIER FOR THE 60 DAY FEASIBILITY STUDY, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF AN EXTRA 30 DAYS FOR AN INVESTMENT OF $10,000. WE DIDN'T DISCUSS. THE QUESTION WASN'T ASKED, IS THERE A COST FOR THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY? IF WE APPROVE THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR RANDALL SCOTT ARCHITECTS TO COME BACK AND BRING US A FEASIBILITY, FEASIBILITY STUDY AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, WHAT IS THAT FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? SO THE WAY THAT WE'VE GOT IT BROKEN DOWN, THE THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN, I THINK, IN THE 2024 CAPITAL BUDGET FOR $35 MILLION, WHICH INCLUDES SITE STUDY, WHICH WILL COME OUT OF THAT FUND, WHICH IS THE FEASIBILITY SURVEY, THAT SORT OF THING THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD YOU WOULD DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT TO THAT PROPERTY THAT WOULD THAT WOULD KEEP US FROM BUILDING A FACILITY LIKE THIS. SO IT'S IN THAT ORIGINAL PLAN. WE DID A IN 2024. WE DID A FIVE YEAR BUDGET TO DO THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS START WITH THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, HIRING AN ARCHITECT. OBVIOUSLY PURCHASING THE LAND, GETTING GETTING THE ACCESS TO THE LAND SO THAT WE CAN DO ALL THESE THINGS. AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDS WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION. SO IF I COULD JUST ADD ON TO THAT. SO THIS IS FOR THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS AWARD. IT'S THE FIRST OF A TWO PART PROCESS FOR A CONTRACT. THE SECOND PART OF THIS WOULD BE AFTER THE THE COMPANY IS SELECTED, IT COMES BACK FOR ACTUAL CONTRACT THAT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL FOR AWARD FOR THAT WORK. WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT COST WILL BE. IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE TYPE OF WORK WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS GOING TO BE, BUT YOU'LL HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE THIRD FOR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN WE CAN TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHAT ALL TASKS WILL BE REQUIRED, HOW MUCH IT WILL COST, AND WHEN WE EXPECT TO GET THAT WORK DONE. BUT THAT WOULD BE ON THE PHASE TWO. SO AGAIN THE RFQ IS AWARDED. THERE'S NO COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT IT DOES DIRECT US TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU. HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR CURRENT PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY IS BUILT ON TOP OF AN OLD WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES. CAN YOU KIND OF SPEAK AS TO, I GUESS, THE ISSUES THAT THAT POSES WITH WHY THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR CURRENT FACILITY. YEAH. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY THROUGH THE MAYOR'S REQUEST. WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL DESIGN FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY. IT IS BUILT ON THE OLD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. BEFORE WE TOOK

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SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGES WITH THAT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISRUPTION WOULD MEAN TO THE ENVIRONMENT IF WE GO IN AND DO IT. OBVIOUSLY WHEN THEY BUILT THIS FACILITY, THEY HAD TO GO BACK. THEY HAD TO GO AND CUT OUT A LOT OF SOIL AND REPLACE WITH OLDER SOIL. BUT THAT THOSE WERE CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF THE CONDITION OF THE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH WITH HAVING A PAST WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THERE. SO WE REALLY WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE START DIGGING INTO THAT, NO PUN INTENDED. BUT IF WE IF WE DID DO THAT, IT WOULD IT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN SET OF CHALLENGES FOR SURE, BEFORE WE COULD PUT A NEW FACILITY ON IT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE WOULD BE RIGHT NOW. BUT YEAH, I THINK I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT THERE WOULD BE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH IT, ESPECIALLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT FOLKS MAY HAVE. AND THEN MAYBE, I THINK ADDITIONAL CONCERNS WITH WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PUT ON, ON THE LAND ITSELF, I THINK. CAN WE SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THE REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES OF HAVING ALL OF OUR 120 FULL TIME STAFF MEMBERS STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER BECAUSE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE SOME OF OUR TRUCKS, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE LIKE HAVING TO BE RECEIVE MAINTENANCE, LIKE ON THE SIDE OF A ROAD. AND SO THE WAY THAT I SEE IT IS THAT HAVING A FACILITY THAT AND HAVING SPACE TO WHERE WE DO HAVE LIKE THE MAINTENANCE BAY AND WHATNOT, THAT ALLOWS US TO ACTUALLY REPAIR OUR VEHICLES A LOT FASTER BECAUSE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT QUICKER IN-HOUSE AND SAFER FOR OUR STAFF MEMBERS. AND SO ALL OF THESE THINGS FEED INTO HOW QUICKLY OUR STAFF MEMBERS ARE ABLE TO GET BACK OUT TO THE ROADS, TO ANSWER CALLS TO FIX ISSUES AND WHATNOT.

SO CAN YOU JUST SPEAK A LITTLE TOWARDS LIKE, THE REAL LIFE CONSEQUENCES? OKAY, I'LL TAKE A SHOT AT THAT. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS PICTURE. THESE ARE THESE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACED WITH. WE'VE GOT 100 PLUS EMPLOYEES SCATTERED AROUND THE CITY, WHETHER THEY'RE AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THEY'RE IN. THEY'RE IN ONE OF THESE. YOU CAN SEE THE MOBILE HOME. ALL THESE PICKUPS ARE PARKED IN FRONT OF. YOU CAN SEE THE CHALLENGES WITH OFFICE SPACE. THERE'S JUST THERE'S ABSOLUTELY JUST OUT OF SPACE. AND WE'RE HAVING TO MOVE PEOPLE AROUND. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE INSIDE THE THE THE FLEET SERVICE BAY RIGHT NOW IT'S REALLY NOT A FLEET SERVICE BAY, BUT IT'S JUST A IT'S A BAY. SO WE HAVE NO ROOM TO DO ANY WORK ON OUR EQUIPMENT. WE DON'T WE DON'T WORK ON OUR EQUIPMENT. WE CONTRACT ALL OF THAT WORK OUT.

AND SO WE HAVE TO GET IN LINE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE OTHER CITIES OR THERE MAY BE OTHER BUSINESSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S IN LINE WAITING FOR THEIR EQUIPMENT TO BE WORKED ON, AND PROBABLY HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CHALLENGES ARE WITH THAT SORT OF THING. BUT IF WE HAD OUR OWN FACILITY AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE DATA ON THAT, TOO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AFTER OUR EXEC MEETING IS WE NEED TO GET YOU SOME DATA ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS PROVIDING FLEET SERVICES TO OUR TO OUR EQUIPMENT AND WHAT THAT WOULD, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THE BENEFITS THAT WOULD THAT IT WOULD PAY US NOT ONLY IN LOSS OF TIME BECAUSE IF WE LOSE ONE OF OUR LARGE TRUCKS AND IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS TO GET IT REPAIRED, THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND RENT A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO OFFSET WHAT THAT TRUCK WAS ACTUALLY DOING. AND WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE DONE THAT SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST. SO WE'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION ON THAT. THANK YOU. AND SO I THINK I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SERVICE OUR RESIDENTS FASTER AND AT A COST SAVINGS. I KNOW IT IS A BIG INVESTMENT, BUT IT IS ONE THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR BECAUSE WE DIDN'T. PREVIOUS COUNCILS, YOU KNOW, YEARS AND YEARS PAST DID NOT PLAN FOR US TO BE THE SIZE THAT WE ARE NOW AND WE ARE IN ONE OF THE OTHER REPORTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA WHERE THE SECOND FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE NATION, AND SO WE CAN ONLY EXPECT IN THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE FACILITIES. AND I THINK JUST SPACE IN ORDER TO PERFORM THE DUTIES THAT WE HAVE TO TO OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO, YEAH, IF WE COULD ACTUALLY ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURE DATA THAT TALKS ABOUT LIKE THAT, I GUESS THAT THAT TIME FROM WHEN LIKE A VEHICLE LIKE GOES OFFLINE AND IS BROKEN DOWN TO LIKE THE SERVICE, LIKE JUST KIND OF LIKE SOME OF THE AVERAGES OF THE TIMES THAT, THAT, THAT HAS ASSOCIATED WITH IT IN COMPARISON TO LIKE WHAT POTENTIALLY WE COULD HAVE BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE COULD WORK ON ONE OF OUR LARGER VEHICLES AND SPARE OURSELVES CONTRACTING OUT AND SIX MONTHS AND WE'RE ABLE TO DO THOSE REPAIRS FASTER AND IN HOUSE

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WE DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY. WE WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE LEVEL OF GROWTH THAT WE'VE GOT COMING.

AND THIS IS WHILE YES, IT'S EXPENSIVE, IT'S A NECESSARY PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE, THE SERVICES TO, TO OUR WATER CUSTOMERS AND REALLY TO, TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT ACCOMMODATES FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. IT'S A IT'S A NECESSARY AND WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE OF KYLE. COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS, NOT ONLY ARE WE BEHIND ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN MANY AREAS, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THEM. AND THIS IS ONE THAT PAYS BACK. YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS BY DOING THIS WHOLE PROCESS IN-HOUSE INSTEAD OF OUTSIDE. EVERYTHING ABOUT IT SAVES US MONEY AND IT WILL BE SAVINGS FOR 30 YEARS. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL BELIEVE, HE SAID, THAT THIS WILL SERVE OUR CITY FOR 30 YEARS. IT'S NOT JUST NOW THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE GROWTH, RIGHT? AND WHEN YOU SEE THE SCHEMATIC DESIGNS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING, HOPEFULLY WITH RANDALL SCOTT, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO OCCUPY EVERY SQUARE INCH OF PROPERTY OUT THERE. WE'RE LIKE THE CITY MANAGER WAS SAYING EARLIER, THIS IS FOR GROWTH. THIS IS THE WHEN YOU BUILD A OR HAVE AN INVESTMENT LIKE THIS, IT'S NOT A TEN YEAR OR EVEN A 20 YEAR. THIS IS MORE LIKE A 30 TO 50 YEAR PROJECT THAT WE WILL WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO GROW INTO. SO GREAT. IF WE'RE DONE, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS, AND I THINK WE ALL KIND OF KNOW WHERE I STAND. YOU KNOW, $35 MILLION IS A BIG ASK FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE FOR 30 YEARS, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO TAKE TO PAY BACK THESE BONDS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, C-O BONDS DO NOT GO TO THE RESIDENTS. IT'S A VOTE THAT WE TAKE UP HERE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND WE DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO FUND A $35 MILLION PROJECT. MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN ZERO RESIDENT FEEDBACK AS OF TODAY. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW. THIS IS OUR FIRST OPEN DISCUSSION, AND I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT WE NEED THIS. WE NEED SOME KIND OF EXPANSION. I'VE BEEN IN THAT. I WAS IN THAT BUILDING DURING COVID. I UNDERSTAND HOW HARD THOSE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WORK. I'VE SEEN THEM. I'VE SEEN THEM UPSET AND WORRIED ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR WATER. SO MY HEART LIVES WITH THEM. BUT WITH THAT SAID, I STILL THINK MOVING FORWARD WE NEED TO BE CONSCIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH WATER OR HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPEND. I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE. WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT SOME RF. IS IT THE RFQ RFP? WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S FOR FUTURE GROWTH. AND I JUST FOUND OUT AT THIS VERY MOMENT IT'S FOR 30 YEARS, WHICH IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE LIFE OF THE BOND. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR SOMETHING FOR 30 YEARS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE RESIDENT FEEDBACK, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE EMINENT DOMAIN FOR AN EASEMENT THAT WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR EMINENT DOMAIN. IF IN THE EVENT THAT GUY DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE US AN EASEMENT, WHAT IS THE CITY GOING TO DO? ALSO, IS THIS BEST USE FOR THAT, FOR THAT TRACK OF LAND? WHEN WE'RE PLANNING A CITY, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHAT IS BEST USE FOR THE FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, COMP COMP PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE BEST USE. THE EAST SIDE HAS VERY LIMITED AREA TO EXPAND AND GROW, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ESSENTIALLY AS A CITY IS TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AWAY AND WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR CITY USE. WE HAVE 14 USABLE ACRES OUT THERE. I WOULD LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS. SO MAYBE WE SEE AN OPTION OF ALL 39 ACRES, AND THEN MAYBE WE SEE AN OPTION OF THE 14 THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. MY SUGGESTION HAS BEEN TO HAVE WATER AND WASTEWATER EXPAND OVER BY THE WASTEWATER PLANT, AND THEN TO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS EXPAND WHERE THEY'RE AT, OR NOT EVEN TO EXPAND, BUT LIKE BUILD ON WHERE THEY'RE AT. AS WE, ME AND COUNCIL MEMBER GOZA WALKED IT ON FRIDAY, THERE WAS A LOT OF UNUSED AREA OR NOT WELL PLANNED AND WELL USED AREAS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT

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AND AS PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION, WE'LL GO OVER SCOPE AND FEES. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE NEGOTIATION IS ALL ABOUT. AND SO, YES, YOU WILL HAVE MORE THAN ONE OPTION TO CHOOSE FROM.

THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA OF GETTING THEM ON BOARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WHILE WE'RE DOING THE THE SITE ASSESSMENT FOR THE FACILITY, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THEM TO START DOING THEIR PERSONAL INTERVIEWS BECAUSE I'VE DONE THIS, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT ME, I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.

AND SO THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY'RE GOING TO START AND THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO MEET WITH STAFF THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR ORIGINAL ONE, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET AN IDEA. AND THEN SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO BRING COUNCIL BACK IN.

AND WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE WE CAN SHOW THE WHAT WHAT THEIR IDEAS ARE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, THE CITY MANAGEMENT HAS ALREADY SEEN, AND WE'LL WORK ON IT. BUT THIS IS JUST A TYPICAL PROCESS. AND WE'RE AT I'D LIKE TO SAY WE'RE WE'RE AT LIKE STEP FIVE OUT OF 20 STEPS. THAT'S ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. THE FIRST ONE WAS TO FIND AN ACCESSIBLE AND USABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS NOT SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTS. YOU SAW FRIDAY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. AND WHEN WE VISITED THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, WE DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT ISSUE ON THIS BECAUSE WE ARE LOUD IN THE MORNING. YOU HEAR YOU HAVE THE BACKUP, YOU KNOW, BEEPERS FROM THE EQUIPMENT BACKING UP AND GETTING READY TO DO THEIR DAY'S WORK AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT'S IT'S A IT'S A CONTINUAL OPERATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIT INTO A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ENVIRONMENT. WE COULD PUT ONE THERE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE OUR FIRST CHOICE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT IT THAT SORT OF LENDS ITSELF. IT'S NOT IT'S SORT OF IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, BUT IT'S ALSO SORT OF NEXT TO A, A CORRECTIONAL FACILITY THAT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, THE MOST DESIRABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY. IF YOU'RE GOING TO INVEST IN PROPERTY. SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO LIKE THREE DIFFERENT. DESIGNS, ONE FOR THE 14 ACRES, ONE FOR 39 ACRES AND THEN ONE WITH WASTEWATER BY ITSELF. AND THEN I LIKE COUNCILMEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM TOBY'S IDEA OF PRESENTING THESE TO THE RESIDENTS, AND THEN THEY CAN LOOK AND SAY, NO, WE DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY OR YEAH, WE LIKE THIS, OR, HEY, CAN WE INCLUDE THIS? I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT FEEDBACK BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON A CO BOND. SO LOTS OF DISCUSSION. ALL GOOD POINTS. CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK AT ANY NUMBER OF OPTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT. THIS IS GOING TO BE AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTUAL BASIS OF WHAT WE THINK COULD BE THERE AFTER AFTER SOME SITE VISITS AND SOME WORK THAT THEY'LL DO ON THE SITE, BUT IT'S STILL VERY HIGH LEVEL. THE ACTUAL DESIGN, THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTS, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ACTUALLY BID SOME PROJECT OUT. THOSE ARE MONTHS AWAY FROM HAPPENING. SO I DO WANT TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE CAN DO IN 60 DAYS. I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU SOME HIGH LEVEL OPTIONS AND CONCEPTS AND BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS FOR THESE THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. MAYOR, THAT YOU SUGGESTED, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT TO HOW THAT COULD BE DONE. BUT IN RESIDENT FEEDBACK AND GETTING SOME KIND OF OPEN HOUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE CAN DO ALL OF THOSE. BUT I DON'T THINK ALL THAT'S HONESTLY GOING TO BE POSSIBLE IN 60 DAYS. AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT LESS THAN 60 DAYS. 60 DAYS STARTS FROM TODAY. MARCH 3RD IS A CONTRACT THAT COMES BACK TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION TO ACTUALLY START THIS WORK. SO WE'VE REALLY GOT ABOUT 45 DAYS OR SO TO BRING BACK. AND THEN I HAVE TO PRESENT THOSE TO YOU BACK IN A PUBLIC MEETING AT A SCHEDULED TIME. WE'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN THAT IS TO COME BACK TO YOU AND SEE IT. SO I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE CAN PURSUE THERE. I THINK THE FIRST IS HOW WOULD IT LOOK? HOW WOULD YOU USE THE SPACE? WHAT ARE OUR PROJECTIONS ABOUT WHAT WE THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED OVER THE NEXT 20, 30, 40 YEARS, WHICH THOSE GET VERY DIFFICULT TO MEASURE AFTER YOU GET BEYOND 10 OR 15 YEARS. BUT WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME PROJECTIONS TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE THINK IS NEEDED, AND YOU ARE GOING TO NEED MORE SPACE.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT USING THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE, PERHAPS MORE EFFICIENTLY. THOSE ARE ALWAYS GOOD THINGS TO DO, BUT IT'S ALSO, AS MIKE SAID, NEW

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BUT WE'RE SPENDING $35 MILLION. 35 MILLION IS THE PROJECTION FOR THE LAND PLUS ALL THE CONSTRUCTION. SO IF YOU TOOK THE $25 MILLION FOR JUST THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 8 TO 10% TO DO DESIGN SET OF PLANS FOR THAT. WHAT WE WOULD START WITH IS CONCEPTUAL DRAWING. BRING THAT BACK TO YOU, LET YOU LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN IF YOU DECIDED YOU WANTED TO PURSUE THAT, THEN YOU GO INTO THE ACTUAL FULL DESIGN. AGAIN, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. YOU WOULD NOT DO THAT THREE TIMES IF YOU WEREN'T SURE WHAT YOU WERE DOING. AND AS FAR AS IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR, AS FAR AS TOWN HALL, IT COULD BE JUST MORE OF AN OPEN HOUSE. OKAY.

MORE OF AN OPEN HOUSE AT PUBLIC WORKS. WE'RE HAVING IT AT THIS DAY. WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. THIS IS WHERE OUR NEEDS ARE FROM. THE CITY. PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY HEAR FROM YOU. THEY CAN HEAR FROM MR. STANFORD. THEY CAN HEAR FROM WHOEVER IT IS FROM THE CITY ITSELF, BASICALLY, LIKE WE USED TO DO WITH OUR ROAD BOND AND SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROJECTED COST, BUT TO HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN AS FAR AS THE SERVICES AND THE FLEET SERVICES, THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE CONTINUOUS GROWTH, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE HERE IN THIS CITY THAT WORKS IN MAINTENANCE FROM FROM DIFFERENT COUNTIES. THEY KNOW ABOUT MAINTENANCE BARNS. THEY KNOW ABOUT HOW THESE THINGS, THESE THINGS WORK. AND SO GIVEN WHAT WE'RE SAYING, AS FAR AS FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW ON THE DYESS, THE THE TRANSPARENCY TO THE RESIDENTS, HEY, THIS IS A BIG INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR THE CITY.

AND THIS IS THE PLAN. THIS IS THE LAND, THIS IS THE IDEA. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT, AND IT KEEPS THEM MORE INFORMED IN THAT SENSE. BECAUSE AGAIN, HERE'S THE OTHER FLIP SIDE.

LET'S SAY WE SAY NO TO ALL OF THIS. THEN WHERE DO WE GO THEN WHAT DO WE DO. WE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE SAYING, YOU GUYS ARE SPENDING WAY TOO MUCH MONEY. YOU DON'T NEED THIS. FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. THEN WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT DO WE DO FROM THERE? RIGHT. WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.

AND GUESS WHAT? WE STILL NEED MAINTENANCE. WE STILL NEED ROADS FIXED. WE STILL HAVE SNOWSTORMS COMING. WE STILL HAVE CONSTRUCTION. WE STILL GOT ROAD BOND. THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION THAT'S COMING ON, THOSE ARE GOING TO NEED REPAIRS ONCE THEY'RE DONE. SO WE CAN GO

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SO I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU. HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING TO SHOW YOU THE DESIGNS BEFORE I SHOW THEM TO THE PUBLIC AND LET YOU SEE THEM, EVEN IF WE MAY NOT HAVE THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL DRAWINGS, CRAYON DRAWINGS, LIKE I SEE IT, JUST HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS.

JUST HAVING JUST HAVING THE NEED TO SAY OPEN HOUSE SOMETIME IN MARCH, YOU KNOW, IN 60 DAYS THIS IS COMING BACK. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT. AND THIS AND THEN AGAIN, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN A COUNCIL MEETING. RIGHT.

NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS. LIKE YOU SAID, NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE WE'RE AT AS FAR AS OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR WASTEWATER IS. BUT JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE, HEY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONVERSATION ABOUT A NEW PROJECT THAT'S COMING AROUND. THIS IS THE NEEDS FROM THE CITY IF YOU'D LIKE TO ATTEND. THERE'S NO CONCEPT DESIGNS, BUT IT'S ABLE TO BASICALLY PRESENT WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE. YOU'VE GOT SLIDES, YOU'VE GOT A MAP. WE CAN UTILIZE THAT. SO WHOEVER DECIDES TO SHOW UP AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK ON THE RESIDENTS. NOW IF THERE'S 15 PEOPLE SHOW UP OR MAYBE FIVE AT LEAST WE'RE BEING ABLE TO BE TRANSPARENT IN THAT SENSE. WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA, JUST ONE MORE THING, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW FOR A LOT OF THESE REPAIRS AND WHATNOT, LIKE WE CONTRACT OUT, CAN WE GET AN ESTIMATE OF LIKE THE TOTAL COST OF THOSE CONTRACTS? IS THAT POSSIBLE? YES. I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS, IS SEND TO THIS COUNCIL THE REPORT AND PRESENTATION THAT WE DID FROM ABOUT A YEAR AGO. I'VE LOST TRACK OF THE EXACT TIME, BUT LET ME SEND YOU THAT SO YOU CAN SEE ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT I TRIED TO VERBALIZE, BUT WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT AND SHOW YOU THE COST. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND THEN JUST CAN WE GET IT UPDATED LIKE AS AS UPDATED AS POSSIBLE? I KNOW THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SO I'M TRYING TO BE REASONABLE HERE. JUST SO THAT WAY WE CAN ALSO PRESENT THAT TO THE PUBLIC AS WELL. SURE. WE'LL BE GLAD TO GET YOU THAT OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT.

ANY MOTIONS? IN THE MEANTIME, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. WHEN I SAY IT, I MEAN AGENDA ITEM SEVEN. AGENDA ITEM. ALL RIGHT, UP NEXT WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM EIGHT.

[8) Consider approval of a resolution authorizing an amendment to the City's annexation and development agreement with Bee Spring Ltd and Property Reserve, Inc, for the Nance-Bradshaw Ranch development.]

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE AREA IN BLUE. IT WAS ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT WAS DONE IN MAY OF 2016. IT HAD A 33,300 ACRES. IT WAS CALLED THE BRADSHAW RANCH.

AND IT IS A MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITY THAT HAD UP TO 9000. LOUISE AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LOOKED AT ALL THINGS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RELATED THAT LOOKED AT USES AND LOOKED AT INFRASTRUCTURE FRAMEWORK AND ZONING. SO SINCE 2016, THEY HAVE A NEW OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S PROPERTY RESERVE THEY NOW OWN. THEY PURCHASED ABOUT 3000 ACRES. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FROM 2016 DID MENTION TWO PARCELS OF PASTURE THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND THE ORIGINAL DA ALSO REFERENCED A CO-OWNED PROPERTY. SO THERE WAS SOME REFERENCES IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ABOUT POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE.

AND THEN BUT THAT WAS ALWAYS GOVERNED BY A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH BLANCO RIVER RANCH, BRI. AND IT WASN'T REFERENCED IN THIS NANCE BRADSHAW, BUT NOT FULLY REGULATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO WITH THIS AMENDMENT TO THE DA, IT REALLY

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SO WE DO HAVE SOME AUTHORITY TO TO WORK WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IF AND WHEN THEY, THEY CHOOSE TO DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE. SO MY QUESTION IS, YEAH, WHAT ARE THE TAXPAYERS GOING TO GET OUT OF, OUT OF US RELEASING THEM OUT OF THIS? DA. DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY BY BY DOING THIS AMENDMENT? SO THE AREAS THAT ARE BEING PULLED OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY HAVE NO ENTITLEMENTS RELATED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ANY LONGER. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, WHENEVER THEY DO WANT TO DEVELOP, WHICH THEY WILL, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE A BETTER TRANSACTION FOR THOSE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY. YOU ALSO HAVE THE PURPLE AREA HERE WITH PRI. THEY'VE INDICATED THEY WANT TO RENEGOTIATE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS WELL. WE ARE IN EARLY DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THEY MIGHT WANT. THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY DON'T LIKE, AND THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF THINGS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE DON'T LIKE. AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK A NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR BOTH PARTIES. IT'S EARLY IN THAT PROCESS, BUT I THINK FOR THE PRE DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LOWS THAT ARE TO THAT PROPERTY. THAT 9000 FIGURE IS AN EVEN FIGURE. AN OLD FINANCE DIRECTOR TRICK IS ANYTIME THERE'S AN EVEN NUMBER, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A CALCULATED FIGURE, WHICH THIS IS NOT ONE. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER OF LOUISE AND RENEGOTIATE THAT AGREEMENT. AND THEN WE HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A BETTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THESE OTHER TWO TRACKS WHEN THEY DO ULTIMATELY ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD INTO DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY AND THE BENEFIT TO THE TAXPAYERS IS OVERALL BETTER AGREEMENTS FOR THOSE TRUCKS TO LAND. WHY WOULDN'T WE DO ALL THAT AT THE SAME TIME? SO ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT WHEN YOU TAKE A AN AGREEMENT THAT COVERS A LOT OF AREA AND THEN IT GETS DIVIDED INTO DIFFERENT OWNERS, IS THAT THE OWNERS AREN'T GOING TO HAVE

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THAT WAS PART OF THE TERMS OF THE SALE. AND SO ALL PARTIES, BOTH THE THE OWNER OF THE TRACT AND THE OWNER OF THE PURPLE TRACT, HAVE AGREED THAT THIS IS THE PATH THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THEM A FAVOR BY LETTING THEM HAVE DIFFERENT DAS. RIGHT? NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE A DA ON THE ON THE TRACT. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE WELL, WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE ALL INCLUDED. RIGHT. SO WE'RE DOING THEM A FAVOR BY SAYING YOU GUYS NO LONGER ARE INCLUDED IN THIS DA. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY A FAVOR. THEY ARE ANNEX PROPERTY IN THE CITY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP WITHOUT COMING TO US AS A CITY PROPERTY. BUT WE'RE RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL CONVOLUTED, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PROMISE TO THEM AT THIS POINT. SO THEY'RE STARTING FROM FROM IS CLEARLY FOR FOR THOSE TWO PROPERTIES, THE THE ORANGE AND THE YELLOW COLORS, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLING THEM. THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE NO ENTITLEMENTS. SO THAT IS A NET REDUCTION OF ENTITLEMENTS FOR THOSE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY. SO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN A GOOD DEAL HERE. THEY WOULD MUCH PREFER TO KEEP THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE. BUT THROUGH THE TRANSACTION THAT WAS FACILITATED BY PRI, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO TO TO PULL OUT OF THAT DA. SO WE'VE GOTTEN A SMALLER PIECE OF LAND THAT'S ENTITLED WITH THE CURRENT DA RATHER THAN THE LARGER PIECE WITH ALL THREE ENTITIES. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE IT'S STRATEGICALLY VALUABLE TO BRING IT FORWARD. AND WE DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES WITH BOTH TRACKS, BUT THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED TO FACILITATE THAT. OKAY, I JUST SEE THIS AS A TIME FOR US TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AND SAY, OKAY, YOU GUYS WANT OUT, THAT'S FINE. WE'RE GOING TO IS THE 3000 ACRE WILLING TO GIVE UP 100 LUZ FOR THAT? I AGAIN, I THINK THE WAY WE SEE IT IS THE TWO TRACKS THAT ARE BEING PULLED OUT OF THE DA. THOSE ARE BOTH NET POSITIVES TO THE CITY BECAUSE THEY'RE ENTITLEMENTS THAT YOU'RE NO LONGER REQUIRED TO PROMISE. AND FOR THE OTHER TRACK, WE HAVE INTEREST FROM THAT PARTY TO NEGOTIATE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET EXACTLY WHAT THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WILL ENTAIL.

BUT WE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE BACK TO YOU. WE SEE IT AS A NET POSITIVE FOR THE CITY, A POSITIVE FOR THE TAXPAYER, POSITIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT. THESE ARE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE DRAFTED MANY YEARS AGO THAT WE WOULD CERTAINLY CRAFT DIFFERENTLY IF DOING THEM TODAY.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WITH OUR GROUP AND STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THOSE EXISTING AGREEMENTS TO TRY TO BRING YOU BACK BETTER DEALS THAN WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE. THIS IS WHAT WE THINK THAT DOES. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MOTIONS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. SECOND OKAY I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIA, SECONDED BY MCKINNEY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. IT PASSES 6 TO 1. OKAY. UP NEXT, WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM 19. ALL RIGHT, SECOND

[19) (Second Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance amending Chapter 53 (Zoning) and Chapter 54 (Landscaping and Screening Requirements) of the City of Kyle Code of Ordinances regarding tree survey and preservation requirements. The Planning and Zoning Commission voted 4-0 to recommend approval on January 27, 2026. The City Council voted 7-0 to approve, with amendments for 2nd reading, on February 3, 2026.]

EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE ORDINANCE HAS REMAINED UNCHANGED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. THERE IS CURRENTLY A RESIDENT THAT'S GOING THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN RIGHT NOW, AND SEVERAL OF THE TREES THAT ARE IN THE BACKUP ARE ON HER PROPERTY. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT OUR CITY REMOVE TREES OUT OF WHAT IS PROTECTED DURING A TIME WHERE SOMEONE COULD BE AT A AT A FINANCIAL LOSS FOR THAT.

AND SO I WOULD ASK IF THE CITY CHOSE TO DO THIS, THAT WE HOLD OFF UNTIL AFTER THIS, I GUESS.

AND I'M ALSO CONFUSED AS TO WHY THIS WHEN WE HAVE A CODE REWRITE COMING, WHY IS THIS IN PARTICULAR COMING TO US RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK. AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT

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AND I'VE ASKED AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THERE WILL BE TONS MORE UPDATES. AND SO THE REASON THAT I PROPOSED THIS WAS TO DO HARM REDUCTION, BECAUSE CURRENTLY OUR CONSERVATION DEPARTMENT IS ACTIVELY REMOVING THESE TREES, OR WE'RE TRYING TO CUT DOWN ON THE USE OF THESE BECAUSE THEY ARE ADAPTED. I GUESS THAT'S I'M LEARNING AS I AS I GO ALONG IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ADAPTED SPECIES VERSUS FULLY NATIVE. AND SO THEY ARE HARMFUL TO OUR ENVIRONMENT. AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR CHANGING IT. I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN AT THE TIME THAT THE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED, DID IT RETROACTIVELY AFFECT THIS HOMEOWNER? BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT THE INTENTION, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO RETROACTIVELY AFFECT THE HOMEOWNER EITHER GOING THROUGH IT NOW SO IT WILL AFFECT HER. SHE'S GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS RIGHT NOW. NO, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE REFERRING TO. SO COUNCIL MEMBER GOSA KNOWS. I MEAN, SHE'S BEEN HERE. SHE'S SPOKEN. SHE TALKED. YEAH, IT'S DEBORAH ANTHONY. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT PARTICULAR CASE AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AND DISCUSS IT, I DON'T RECALL. OKAY. I GUESS I JUST ALSO WANT CLARIFICATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS AFFECTS THE THE COMPENSATION THAT SHE WOULD GET FOR THE TREES, BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING THAT IT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T, BECAUSE IF IT'S LIKE HER PROPERTY AND SHE PAID TO HAVE THEM. SO I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. I'D WANT YOU TO HAVE SOME ADVICE FROM YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL ON THAT, I THINK. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE ACCURACY OF THAT. SO WE JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT IT WITH YOU. OKAY. COULD WE POSTPONE? I WOULD PREFER WE NOT. OKAY. SO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PASS ITEM NUMBER 19 AS WRITTEN. ALL RIGHT I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. OKAY. HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER. ROLL CALL.

VOTE, PLEASE. YES. YES. MCKINNEY. YES. MEDINA. NO. HARRIS. YES. ZAPATA. YES.

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[21) Consider the appointment of seven members to the Council Compensation Committee. Howard Connell Melissa Spence  Julie Orgish Carly Barton Jake Webb Diane Hervol Michael McDonald ]

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, MISS DIANE, FOR WANTING TO HELP OUT AND ASSIST AGAIN. AND ALSO, MR. MICHAEL MCDONALD, WHO'S ON HERE AND GOOD TO SEE JULIE AUGUST. HIS NAME ON THERE, INCLUDING JAKE WEBB. SO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THAT I'VE LOOKED AT AND I REALLY SUPPORT AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL GIVE A FAIR AND BALANCED RECOMMENDATION. AND I'M JUST VERY GLAD THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS DONE EARLY. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO ADD ALONG WHAT I HAD BECAUSE I WAS READY TO MAKE A MOTION. GO AHEAD. I'D LIKE TO GO AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21 WITH THE NOMINEES LISTED BELOW. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS AND A SECOND BY MYSELF, YVONNE FLORES. CARL TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 21. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO PULL UP AGENDA ITEM 28. WE HAVE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF 28.

YEAH I THINK THAT WAS ASKED TO BE MOVED FORWARD. WELL 23 IS THE NEXT OH 23. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO 23. SORRY 23. WE'RE GOING TO DO 23. RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A

[23) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction regarding an overview of the schedules, cost projections, and current status of the 2022 City of Kyle Road Bond Programs.]

SO TONIGHT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL STATUS OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE 22 ROAD BOND PROGRAM. WE DID THIS LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. WE DID ONE AROUND THIS TIME LAST YEAR. SO IT'S ABOUT THAT TIME AGAIN. AND SO TO REALLY LEAD US THROUGH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RICK KLATT, OUR PROGRAM MANAGER FROM LOCHNER TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THAT. AND AGAIN, WE'LL PROVIDE JUST A GENERAL PROGRAM STATUS AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

WE'LL GIVE YOU AN OVERALL VIEW OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE NUMBERS ON THE VARIOUS PROJECTS, THE COSTS AND PROJECTIONS ON ALL OF THAT, AND THEN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVITIES WE HAVE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO RICK KLATT. THANK YOU. MIKE. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. AS MIKE MENTIONED, I'M RICK KLATT, THE GSA PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM. FIRST THING I WANTED TO GIVE IS A LITTLE UPDATE ON SOME OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE THE LAST UPDATE. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE OVER 80% OF THE PARCELS, 80% OF THE PARCELS AT LATER STAGES OF ACQUISITION. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY MOVING TO THE RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PROCESS. A SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT THAT WE ACHIEVED BACK IN JULY WAS THE OPENING OF MARKETPLACE. WE HAD A RIBBON CUTTING FOR MARKETPLACE. YOU SEE THE THE GRAND OPENING PICTURE THERE AND A PICTURE OF THE ACTUAL MARKETPLACE. AND I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ON MARKETPLACE AND DRIVEN DOWN IT. SO HERE'S KIND OF A BEFORE THIS IS DECEMBER 2023 PICTURE ON THE LEFT. AND THEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY, IN AUGUST OF 2025, I'D LIKE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE UPCOMING PROJECT SCHEDULES. CURRENTLY, THE SEAT AND OFF SYSTEM IN BB WEST PROJECTS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE HAD THE BID PHASE BACK IN APRIL. CONTRACT WAS AWARDED IN JUNE OF 2025. WE HAD A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY THAT OCCURRED ON JULY 9TH, 2025. AS

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AND THEN ALSO IN THE CONSTRUCTION RANGE, WE LOOKED AT THE PROBABILITY OF THE KIND OF THE LOW, LOW END OF THE CONSTRUCTION RANGE AND AS WELL AS THE HIGH END, YOU KNOW, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE CONTINGENCY AND THEN SUMMED UP THE THE TOTAL PROJECT BY OUR TOTAL COST BY PROJECT FOR EACH OF THOSE, AND THEN COMPARED IT TO OUR MARCH 2025. WE CURRENTLY ANTICIPATE THAT THE OVERALL PROJECT COST WILL VARY FROM 299,500,000, UP TO 319 MILLION, JUST A LITTLE OVER 319 MILLION. AND THIS COMPARES TO OUR MARCH ESTIMATE, WHERE WE HAD AN APPROXIMATELY $330 MILLION, $331 MILLION. SO AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE BIDDING, THESE PROJECTS AND THE FAVORABLE PRICING, WE'RE SEEING A SHIFT TO THE LEFT AS FAR AS THE OVERALL PRICING ESTIMATES, CURRENT COST ESTIMATE PROJECTIONS. THE DESIGN COST CHANGES, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE IMPACTING THE COST CHANGES.

ORIGINAL BUDGET FOR DESIGN WAS A HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATE. WE USED A PERCENTAGE TO ESTIMATE THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION COST, SPLITTING THE PROJECTS INTO MULTIPLE PACKAGES. FOR INSTANCE, OLD STAGECOACH ROAD AND ROAD HAD BEEN SPLIT INTO MULTIPLE PACKAGES. IN ADDITION, WE'VE ADDED SCOPE ALONG THE WAY. REVISED ALIGNMENT FOR OLD STAGECOACH ROAD NORTH, ADDITIONAL DESIGN COORDINATION WITH DEVELOPERS COLAS AND BB CARAWAY DEVELOPMENT MARKETPLACE AVENUE SAINT DAVID'S ADDITIONAL UTILITY DESIGN TO MEET THE CITY WATER NEEDS. ADDING A FIFTH LANE ON BUTTON CREEK ROAD AND THEN INCORPORATION OF PUC CIVIL INFRASTRUCTURE INTO THE ACTUAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PACKAGES. SOME CONTRIBUTING FACTORS PROJECTED COST, CONSTRUCTION CHANGES, CONSTRUCTION PRICES ESCALATED HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED. WE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT PRICE ESCALATION, BACK CONSTRUCTION PRICE ESCALATION BACK IN 2023, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL SCOPE EQUAL HIGHER QUANTITIES OF MATERIALS. WELL, SOME POSITIVE NEWS, SOME POSITIVE COST TRENDS. AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE WE'VE BID THE COLAS AND SEAT AND BB WEST PROJECT AND MARKETPLACE AVENUE, AS WELL AS RECEIVING BIDS FOR FOR THE WINDY HILL PROJECT. AND

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ALSO, UTILITY RELOCATIONS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE LESS THAN ANTICIPATED. SOME COST MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES. WE'RE GOING TO TRACK CONSTRUCTION BIDS, TRACK CONSTRUCTION BIDS AND CONSOLE YEAR 2026 TO DETERMINE TRUE VERSUS ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS, AND CONTINUE TO SEEK EFFICIENCIES IN THE PROGRAM DELIVERY TO MANAGE AND REDUCE COSTS WHERE FEASIBLE, AS WELL AS MAINTAINING FOCUS ON ACCELERATED DELIVERY SCHEDULE AND THEN PURSUING FUNDING THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH TXDOT ON THE I-35 PROJECT AND THROUGH OTHER AGENCIES. THANK YOU. HEY. THANKS, RICK. I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO GO THROUGH, BUT APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. AND AS RICK IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS WE MENTIONED IS THE YEAR OF CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE BIDS COME IN THIS YEAR, GET MORE PROJECTS OUT TO BID. I THINK ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THOSE COSTS LOOK LIKE. WE'VE GOT REALLY POSITIVE NEWS, NEWS ON THE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED SO FAR. SO WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE AS WE GET THROUGH THE YEAR. WE'LL WE'LL START TO EVALUATE AND REEVALUATE. AS WE GET THROUGH THE SUMMER AND INTO THE FALL. WE GET SOME OF THOSE BIDS IN AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT AND SEE AGAIN WHAT SOME OF THOSE LEVERS WE CAN PULL FOR ADDITIONAL COST REDUCTION STRATEGIES. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN THE BELT ON HOW WE MANAGE THE PROGRAM. ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE ALREADY ASKED RICK TO DO IS JUST SCRUB KIND OF OF ALL ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES IN THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT APPROACH, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT LEAN AND MEAN AND JUST GETTING PROJECTS OUT TO DELIVERY AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

BUT THE REALLY THE BEST STRATEGY WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS TO ACCELERATE DELIVERY THAT WILL SAVE US COSTS IN THE LONG RUN. THE SOONER WE CAN GET OUT IN THIS VERY POSITIVE BIDDING ENVIRONMENT, THE BETTER OFF WE'RE GOING TO BE FOR THE ACTUAL REALIZED COST THAT WE SEE. BECAUSE MOST OF THE COSTS YOU SAW UP THERE ARE PROJECTED COSTS. I WANT TO TURN THOSE INTO REAL COSTS AND HOPEFULLY COST SAVINGS AS WE GET THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, PARTICULARLY IN THIS YEAR OF 2026. ALSO, AS RICK MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE THE OPEN HOUSE COMING UP. IS IT NEXT WEEK? YES, 25TH FROM 6 TO 8 AT THE LIBRARY. WE DEFINITELY INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME OUT FOR THAT. WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT OF STAFF ON HAND SO WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE PROJECTS, WHAT THOSE SCOPES ARE, BUT ALSO WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE REALITIES ARE OF THESE PROJECTS, WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE. WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DISRUPTION IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'LL JUST APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE. PARDON THE MESS, BUT WE ALSO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM A TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN PERSPECTIVE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP ROADS OPEN. WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP MOBILITY ON MOST OF THESE ROADWAYS.

THAT'S ALSO ADDING TO SOME OF THE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE. BUT WE ALSO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP KEEP THAT MOBILITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE, BUT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT AMONGST ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AS WELL. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT. AND AGAIN, OF COURSE, AS WE GO FORWARD, WE'LL HAVE CONTINUED UPDATES ON OUR WEBSITE, OUR NEWSLETTER AND OTHER MEANS. AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU. AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME AND RICK. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER DARBY OKAY. JUST TO THE BB OVERHEAD. SO WE'RE GOING WITH AN OVERPASS NOW. CORRECT. SO ARE WE GOING TO ADD A STOPLIGHT THERE ON THE OVERPASS OR IS IT GOING TO GO REFERRING TO THE COLAS? YES. COLAS I-35 OVERPASS. YES. YEAH. I-35 IS GOING TO GO UP AND OVER COLAS. SO THERE WILL BE A SIGNALIZED THERE WILL BE TRADITIONAL SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION LIKE YOU'D SEE ON I-35, TWO SETS OF SIGNALS, A DIAMOND TYPE CONFIGURATION YOU HAVE ONE AT. AND THEN AS YOU GO UP, THERE'S GOING TO BE. SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SIGNAL LIGHT RIGHT AT THERE BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A SIGNAL THAT'S WHERE ALL THE AMAZON TRUCKS PULL OUT. SO IF ANYBODY THAT COMES DOWN COMES INTO KYLE GOING SOUTHBOUND, ALL THAT HEAVY TRUCKS THAT COME THROUGH AND THAT, AND IF IT'S GOING TO GO ACROSS TO THE CARAWAY TRACK, YEAH, IT'LL GO IT'LL BASICALLY BE AT GRADE. OKAY. IMAGINE COLAS RIGHT NOW WOULD BE. WELL I THINK COLAS ON ONE SIDE IS SLIGHTLY ELEVATED, BUT IT'LL ESSENTIALLY BE ON THAT FIRST LEVEL. AND THEN I-35 IS GOING TO GO UP AND OVER. SO OKAY. AND IT'LL BE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS AT BOTH THE THE NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROADS OF I-35. OKAY.

AND WE GOT TXDOT ON BOARD WITH THAT. RIGHT. YES. AND SO I KNOW WE KEEP ON TALKING ABOUT THE COLAS OVERPASS, BUT REALLY IT'S AN UNDERPASS. COLAS WILL BE GOING UNDER 35. WE'LL ACTUALLY WORKING WITH TXDOT. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO RAISE 35 THROUGH THAT SECTION. SO YOU SEE THAT YELLOW ON THAT MAP. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY BRINGING ELEVATING THE LANES SO THEY CAN GO OVER COLAS. AND SO WE CAN ALLOW FOR THAT UNDERPASS. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU GO INTO SAN MARCOS YOU HAVE BY THE BOBCAT STADIUM WHERE YOU HAVE THE BRIDGE THAT GOES UP.

SO YOU HAVE THE VEHICLES CAN COME UNDERNEATH. CORRECT. IT'S CREATING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LIKE AN UNDERPASS, LIKE BY BY THE BOBCAT STADIUM. IT'S KIND OF THAT KIND OF SCENARIO, RIGHT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP AND IT'S GOING TO GO THAT KIND OF CONCEPT, PROBABLY NOT THAT EXTENT, BUT. RIGHT. IT'S THAT SIMILAR CONCEPT WHERE WE'RE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, BRINGING THOSE, RAISING THOSE LANES AND THEN CREATING THAT, THAT SPACE TO CREATE THAT UNDERPASS FOR

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I KNOW WE HAVE THE DATES AS FAR AS THE YEAR. THERE'S CONSTRUCTION GOING ALL UP AND DOWN I-35 FROM AUSTIN TO SAN ANTONIO, ALL OVER NEW BRAUNFELS, YOU NAME IT. DO WE FEEL CONFIDENT WHEN IT'S OUR TURN TO START GETTING THESE ROADS DONE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE THE TIME SCHEDULE FOR THEM TO BE CONDUCTED? OR WOULD WE BE BEHIND AS WE'RE WAITING FOR OTHER CITIES TO GET THEIR PROJECTS DONE ON NIGHTS 35 OR IT JUST BECAUSE I'M JUST SAYING THE CONSTRUCTION EVERYWHERE. EVEN WHEN YOU GO INTO AUSTIN AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING, I MEAN, THEY'RE SHUTTING THAT HIGHWAY DOWN, BUILDING UP. RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE GIVING THESE DATES AND WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE AND I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, GET READY, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY GO INTO CONSTRUCTION THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROADBLOCKS AS FAR AS LIKE, WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE DELAYED 18 MONTHS OR IT'S GOING TO BE DELAYED SIX MONTHS AND SO FORTH. RIGHT? YEAH. AND I'LL GIVE A GENERAL ANSWER. AND RICK MAY WANT TO ADD MORE FROM THE COORDINATION WE'RE DOING WITH TEXAS. BUT A LOT OF COORDINATION HAPPENING. AND ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD COMMITMENT FROM TXDOT TO PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT AND MEET THIS SCHEDULE TO THE POINT WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SUBMITTED FOR FUNDING IN THE CAMPO CALL FOR PROJECTS TO PARTNER WITH US ON THIS PROJECT.

GREAT. COOL. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT I GOT SOME QUESTIONS. LET'S GO TO SLIDE NUMBER 22 PLEASE. SURE. ALL RIGHT LET'S TALK NUMBERS.

THIS IS FROM MARCH 2025. ONE OF THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT IS THE MARCH 2025 UPDATE THAT WE PROVIDED. YES. OKAY. SO THIS HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED IN A YEAR. NO, NO. LET ME CLARIFY. SO BASICALLY THE TOTAL PROJECT COST IS THE CURRENT UPDATE. SO THOSE TWO COLUMNS WHERE IT SHOWS THE KIND OF THE RANGE, THE ANTICIPATED RANGE FOR EACH OF THE PROJECTS. SO THAT'S CURRENT. AND THEN ON THE RIGHT, THE MARCH 2025 TOTAL PROJECT COST WAS THE UPDATE THAT WE PROVIDED BACK IN MARCH. YEAH, WE JUST PROVIDED THAT JUST FOR A FORM OF COMPARISON TO THE UPDATE THAT WE PROVIDED LAST YEAR. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DESIGN. THE TOTAL PROJECTED COST IS 36,380,000 OKAY. AND OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS 20,460,000. SO WE'RE TALKING A PLUS MEANING AN EXCESS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY A 15,920,000. ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT AWAY IT LOOKS LIKE WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED 30,710,000. AND THIS IS AS OF TODAY. IS THAT CORRECT? THIS IS AS OF TODAY. AS OF TODAY, THIS IS AS OF TODAY. WHAT WE PROJECT FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY COST. YES. WELL WE PROJECT OKAY. SO NOW THAT'S AN EXCESS OF 4,540,000.

AND THEN I SEE UTILITY LOCATION KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE UNDER BUDGET. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW WE ARE UNDER BUDGET $52 MILLION. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THE UTILITY COST ESTIMATES, WE LOOKED AT KIND OF THE TOTALITY OF THE UTILITIES.

AND IN THE PROCESS, WE DETERMINED THAT SOME OF THE UTILITIES ARE WHAT WE CALL REIMBURSABLE, MEANING THE UTILITY COMPANY IS ENTITLED FOR US TO RELOCATE OR PAY FOR THEM TO RELOCATE. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER UTILITIES THAT ARE NOT REIMBURSABLE. IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY, THE UTILITY COMPANIES, BECAUSE THEY WERE WITHIN, LET'S SAY, THE CITY RIGHT AWAY, AND THERE WAS NO PRIOR AGREEMENT. SO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR THE RELOCATION ON THEIR OWN. SO THAT GETS PULLED OUT OF THERE. I THINK WE WERE FROM AN ESTIMATE STANDPOINT, I THINK WE ALSO OVERESTIMATED, JUST LIKE YOU POINTED OUT IN THE DESIGN AND RIGHT OF WAY ON SOME OF THOSE BACK IN 2021, 2022, WE WE UNDERESTIMATED WHAT IT WOULD TAKE AT THAT POINT. ALL RIGHT. SO I WAS A LITTLE OFF ON THAT. LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A DIFFERENCE OF 33 MILLION OKAY. SO CONSTRUCTION RANGE WHY ARE THERE TWO. WHY ARE THERE TWO ROWS. SO THERE'S TWO ROWS. WE'RE JUST SORT OF LOOKING AT WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE POTENTIAL RANGE OF THESE PROJECTS. SO YOU KNOW ON THE LOW END WE ANTICIPATE FOR INSTANCE ON AN OVERPASS ON THE LOWER END, WE ARE PROJECTING THE CONSTRUCTION COST ON THAT TO BE A LITTLE BIT OVER 40 MILLION. AND ON THE UPPER RANGE, WE ANTICIPATE THAT COST BEING ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 44 MILLION. SO IT'S KIND OF A COST RANGE. IT'S NOT HEY, THIS IS THIS IS IT. WE JUST ANTICIPATE, HEY, IT COULD BE ON THIS LOW END. IT COULD BE IN THIS HIGH END, OR IT COULD BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. AND MAYOR, THAT'S BASED ON LOOKING AT THE BASE CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE FOR THAT PROJECT. AND THEN ALSO THE UPPER RANGE IS THEN ADDING IN CONTINGENCY. SO RICK HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT CONTINGENCY FOR THE UNKNOWNS. ANY UNEXPECTED THINGS THAT WE HIT. AND THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD TO HAVE AS PART OF A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT IS HAVE CONTINGENCY AMOUNTS. YOU SEE THAT AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS WE BRING TO COUNCIL. SO WHAT THAT UPPER RANGE IS, IS THAT THAT PROJECTED ESTIMATE WITH THE CONTINGENCY LOADED IN THAT WAS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET. BUT THIS IS JUST SHOWING THAT RANGE. YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE GET REALLY CLOSE TO THAT BASE CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE AND HOPEFULLY DON'T HAVE TO USE AS MUCH CONTINGENCY. SO WE JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THAT

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THAT'S BEEN THE GOAL FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT A $300 MILLION FIGURE. PLUS OR -5 OR 10% IS REALLY HARD FOR US THAT WE THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD ESTIMATING TO BE THAT CLOSE AT THIS POINT IN THE PROJECT. BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. IF THE COSTS COME IN HIGHER, HOPEFULLY THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN LOWER. WE DO HAVE SOME AGAIN, SOME POSITIVE NUMBERS THAT ARE COMING IN. WE JUST CAN'T SAY THAT FOR CERTAIN RIGHT NOW. THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES IN THE FUTURE. AND IT IS FAR BETTER BY ABOUT $11 MILLION, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, 30 MILLION TO $11 MILLION LESS THAN WHAT WE TOLD YOU A YEAR AGO. SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE PROCESS. WE WE'RE DEFINITELY HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE'VE GOTTEN GOOD INFORMATION. THE TXDOT PARTICIPATION AT 8 MILLION. THAT'S AN EVEN NUMBER. REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE EVEN NUMBERS. SO THAT'S AN ESTIMATE. HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER NUMBER. YOU NEVER KNOW. WE KNOW KIND OF WHAT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE WITH US. BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR GRANT FUNDING AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT. THAT PROJECT IS STILL A YEAR AND A HALF TWO YEARS OUT OKAY. SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT 8 MILLION. WE DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT. IT'S ALL BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH TXDOT. MIKE, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY MET WITH TXDOT AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT. AND THEY DEFINITELY WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH US ON THIS PROJECT. I MENTIONED THEY HAD SUBMITTED FOR THE CAMPO CALL FOR PROJECTS. THEY SUBMITTED FOR PARTNERSHIP FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF THAT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL, WE WOULD STILL LOOK TO THEM FOR SOME PARTNERSHIP FUNDING. I THINK THAT WAS JUST AN AVENUE TO PARTNER WITH US, ON US, BUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH TEX-DOT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THAT NUMBER LOOKS LIKE, TO BRIAN'S POINT. OKAY. AND WHAT WOULD THE $8 MILLION WHAT WAS THAT GOING TO GO TO THE UNDERPASS ON COACHELLA'S ON I-35? IT'S FOR THAT PARTNERSHIP WOULD BE THAT TOP, THAT TOP LINE. BASICALLY, IT'S PAYING FOR TEX DOT'S FUTURE EXPANSION, I-35. SO IT'S THE ADDITIONAL LANES FOR THE FUTURE THAT THEY WERE NOT CONSTRUCTING THOSE NOW.

BUT WE'RE PROVIDING FOR, YOU KNOW, A WIDER BRIDGE OR A WIDER APPROACH OR WHATEVER. SO IT'S THAT COST DIFFERENCE DELTA BETWEEN REPLACING WHAT'S THERE TODAY AND THEN PROVIDING FOR WHAT TXDOT WANTS TO, TO HAVE THERE IN THE FUTURE. OKAY, I APPRECIATE THIS, AND I THINK THIS INFORMATION IS VITAL TO THE COUNCIL WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE LIKE, WE'RE VOTING ON THINGS SUCH, YOU KNOW, LIGHTS VERSUS ROUNDABOUTS VERSUS STOP SIGNS, ALL THAT STUFF IS IMPORTANT TO US SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SPENDING OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS AS WISELY AS WE CAN. AND SO I THINK WE JUST AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, A DEFICIT OF ANYWHERE BETWEEN 7 MILLION TO 46 MILLION.

AND WE JUST NEED TO BE CONSCIOUS ABOUT THAT WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD. I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THE TOTAL NUMBER THAT WE PROVIDED IS 319 COMPARED TO THE 294. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE $41 MILLION FIGURE CAME FROM. I JUST FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS UPWARD OF 319. AND IF WE END UP HAVING THESE COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN THE BUDGETED AMOUNT, WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU OPTIONS TO COME IN UNDER THOSE, THOSE FIGURES. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T LEAVE ANYBODY WITH THE WRONG REPRESENTATION HERE. WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO COME IN AT 320 MILLION AND THAT WE HAVE NO OPTIONS OR CHOICES. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO COME IN. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MANAGE THESE PROJECTS AND TRY TO BRING THEM AT BUDGET. AND IF WE CAN'T GET IT WITH THE EXISTING SCOPE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT

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SO I GUESS FOR THE TOTAL PROJECTED RANGE THAT WE HAVE IN COMPARISON TO LIKE WHAT THE ORIGINAL BOND AMOUNT APPROVED WAS FOR, IS THIS, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, ON PAR WITH OTHER PROJECTS? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE TO ME, IT SEEMS KIND OF REASONABLE AND EXPECTED THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS PRICED OUT IN 2022, YOU KNOW, 2021 ISH IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE ALL FEEL THAT IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES TOO. YEAH. AND I GUESS I KIND OF MENTIONED IT BEFORE. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS BACK IN IN 2023, THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL ESCALATION IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS. SINCE THEN WE'VE SEEN A LEVELING. I THINK WE'VE EVEN SEEN SOME SOME VERY FAVORABLE. YEAH. THE FASTER THAT GOES THAT WAY THE BETTER.

BUT YES, THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL ESCALATION BACK IN 2023. YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR ORIGINAL COST ESTIMATES FOR THE PROGRAM. YOU KNOW, WE WE INPUT WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE AT THE TIME BACK IN 2021, 2022. WE INPUT WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE REASONABLE AND NORMAL ESCALATION RATES ON A YEARLY BASIS. SO WE TOOK OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATES, WE APPLIED THE ESCALATION RATE AND WE SAID, OKAY, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS IS A $294 MILLION PROGRAM. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE, I THINK YOU COULD SAY IT WAS 20 TO 30% CONSTRUCTION COST ESCALATIONS BACK IN 2023. WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE AN ESCALATION OF THAT SEVERITY. SO WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE CONSTRUCTION COST RANGE. ARE THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION COSTS SO MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT WE INITIALLY ANTICIPATED? AND TO THAT TO JUST A FEW MORE COMMENTS ON THAT. ANOTHER THING, BECAUSE, MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED THE INCREASE IN DESIGN COSTS. AND SO ONE THING WE HAVE ALSO SEEN IN THE INDUSTRY IS INCREASE IN DESIGN COSTS. AND SO THAT JUST GOES WITH INCREASED COSTS FOR ALL KINDS OF SERVICES. WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREMENTAL INCREASE IN THAT OVER THE LAST 5 TO 8 YEARS OR SO. AND SO THAT THAT'S ALSO SOME THINGS MAYBE WE DON'T ALWAYS ACCOUNT FOR AS WELL AS WE SHOULD. THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS FOR A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, I CAN TELL YOU IN MY EXPERIENCE, IF YOU LAND A PROGRAM LIKE THIS WITHIN 5 TO 8% OF THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. SO AGAIN, NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO HIT THAT 294 NUMBER. I'M JUST TELLING YOU FROM INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE, FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE AND JUST WORKING IN THIS FIELD, RICK CAN PROBABLY SAY THE SAME THING LANDING AT $300 MILLION PROGRAM LIKE THIS WITHIN 5 TO 8%. THAT'S YOU'RE LANDING IT ON THE RUNWAY. OKAY.

WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT. AND WE WE STARTED THIS DURING COVID.

AND SO PRICES WERE MUCH HIGHER DURING COVID. AND SO I DO KNOW THEY'VE COME DOWN. AND SO ALTHOUGH WE SHOULD ANTICIPATE THIS, THE BONDS ARE CREATED TO INCLUDE THOSE COSTS, THOSE COSTS OF RAISES GOING UP OVER TIME. BECAUSE MOST OF THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT USED TO BEING DONE WITHIN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS. SO THAT WHEN WE WERE WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BOND, BECAUSE I WAS ON COUNCIL FOR THAT. YEAH, WE DID INCLUDE THAT EXPECTED INCREASES IN PRICE.

YEAH. BUT I THINK IT'S BECAUSE 2023 WAS THE ANOMALY. I THINK TO THAT EXPERIENCE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PROJECT. YOU KNOW, TRAJECTORY HERE, ESPECIALLY IF LAST YEAR DURING THE SAME TIME WE'RE AT THAT 330 MILLION. AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF UNDER THAT. SO YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER SEEMS TO BE GOING DOWN. AND I MEAN, YEAH, I THINK I, I APPRECIATE IT WHEN I CAME ON COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS DEFINITELY I'LL JUST SAY DISCOURAGING BECAUSE THAT'S THE NICEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT. AND I'LL ALSO GIVE MIKE A LOT OF CREDIT TO, BECAUSE WE KIND OF STARTED AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. AND FOR THE THE IMPACT THAT HE'S HAD IN HIS SHORT TENURE HERE. I MEAN, THAT'S REAL MONEY. AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU, MIKE. EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. YOU'VE YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT LOOK LIKE IT ON PAPER, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SAVED THE CITY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY WITH THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

[28) Consider approval of a resolution amending the rules of council to create City Council Subcommittees for Finance, Development & Infrastructure, and Agenda Setting, as well as a regularly scheduled City Council Special Work Session Meeting.]

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ALTHOUGH IF YOU ARE ON A ON A COMMITTEE AND YOU'RE RELATIVELY NEW, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, IT WILL NOT JUST BE YOU AND, YOU KNOW, EXECUTIVE STAFF. WE WILL HAVE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM.

WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION TO PRESENT. WE'LL DO A DEEP DIVE. WE'LL HAVE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM TO EXPLAIN ANY QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. SO THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF BACKUP IN THE ROOM IN CASE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. BUT IT'S A GOOD POINT. OKAY. AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION JUST KIND OF ON THE TIME FACTOR. I KNOW WE SAY THIS WILL SAVE TIME ON OUR REGULAR MEETINGS. AND TO QUOTE A LOT OF TIME, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. HOW DOES THAT CUT THAT OUT? BECAUSE IF, SAY, COURTNEY, I AND MAYOR ARE ON ONE COMMITTEE TOGETHER AND WE'RE DISCUSSING FINANCE ON SOMETHING, WE'VE COME TO A RECOMMENDATION, WE'VE DUG DEEP INTO EVERYTHING AND ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS AS TO WHY, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE OTHER FOUR. HOW DO THOSE FOUR NOT STILL HAVE ALL THOSE SAME QUESTIONS? AND IT TURNS INTO ANOTHER HOUR LONG CONVERSATION TO ANSWER ALL THOSE QUESTIONS? WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, THE INTENTION WOULD NOT BE TO GO THROUGH THE LONG, DEEP DIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THAT SUBCOMMITTEE. THAT WOULD BE THE SUBCOMMITTEE EXISTS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT. YOU WOULD GET A MUCH MORE OVERVIEW PRESENTATION, WHICH YOU ARE GETTING NOW. WE'RE NOT DOING DEEP DIVES IN COUNCIL RIGHT NOW. AND THEN AND THEN SECONDLY, THE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE AND THAT ASKED ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS. FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN ALL THE CITIES I'VE WORKED FOR THAT HAVE SUBCOMMITTEES, THEY'RE ABLE TO HELP GUIDE AND HELP EDUCATE AND UNDERSTAND THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE OTHER FOUR. I WILL TELL YOU, EVERY CITY I'VE EVER WORKED IN HAS HAD COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES.

THE WE LOOKED AT OUR SISTER CITIES THAT WE THAT WE BENCHMARK FOR ALL OF OUR BUDGET.

NINE OUT OF THE 11 HAVE COUNCIL I'M SORRY. YES NINE OUT OF THE 11 HAVE COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES AND EIGHT OUT OF THE 11 HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING. SO THIS IS NOT A NEW INNOVATIVE THING. THIS IS EVERY MAJOR CITY HAS COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES FOR THIS REASON.

AND I WILL JUST TELL YOU, THERE MAY BE DOUBLE QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT BE A THING YOU ASK IT IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS ASKS IT OUT HERE, BUT IT'S NOT. I WILL TELL YOU THAT EVERY CITY I'VE EVER WORKED IN THIS HAS ENHANCED AND MADE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT. THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND THOSE DOUBLE QUESTIONS DO NOT COME UP AS OFTEN AS YOU'D THINK. OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH AGAIN? HOW IF WE'RE ON A SUBCOMMITTEE AND WE'VE DISCUSSED I GET IT'S AN OPEN SESSION. SO RESIDENTS HERE AS WELL. AND WE MET ON TUESDAY AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING AND WE WENT WEDNESDAY AND CAME ACROSS ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT SAME ITEM. CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW THAT DOESN'T BREAK A QUORUM? I CAN, BUT I HAVE MY CITY ATTORNEY PRESENT, SO I'D MUCH I WOULD MUCH RATHER HER. I THINK I BLINKED WHEN YOU WERE TALKING. A WALKING QUORUM IS DEFINED, AND I'M PARAPHRASING BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE LAW RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. AS COMMUNICATIONS AMONGST A QUORUM THAT OCCUR OUTSIDE OF AN OPEN MEETING, TYPICALLY THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNICATIONS, LIKE I'LL TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER GOZA, AND THEN I'LL TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA, AND I'LL TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. AND I'VE NOW TALKED TO THREE. SO I KNOW THAT FOR ASSUMING THAT I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN I WAS DOING THIS, THAT FOUR HAVE BEEN TALKED TO. AND SO THAT'S A PROBLEM. WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE DEFINITION OF WALKING QUORUM IS CONVERSATIONS THAT OCCUR IN AN OPEN MEETING. GOT IT. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY. THAT WAS THE QUESTIONS I HAD. CAN I CONFIRM? SO IF I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE AND I AND THREE OTHER PEOPLE ARE, AND I KNOW WHERE THEY STAND ON A SUBJECT AND I TALK TO MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS, AND THEN I COME BACK AND TALK TO A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S ON THAT COMMITTEE. THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A WALKING QUORUM. I WOULD BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO TWO. SO YOU'VE PARTICIPATED IN THE CONVERSATION WITH THAT IS NOT BUT I'VE WATCHED THE TV AND I SEE WHERE THESE TWO PEOPLE STAND. NOT ONLY TWO, I'VE SEEN WHERE THREE PEOPLE STAND. AND THEN I HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TALK TO. I CAN THEN GO TALK TO TWO OTHER PEOPLE. MAYOR, I WOULD EQUATE IT TO ANY OF OUR MEETINGS WHERE WE GET TO HAVE A WORK SESSION AND YOU GUYS GIVE FEEDBACK. WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHERE YOU STAND NOW. YOU HAVEN'T MADE YOUR VOTE, YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY VOTED ON IT. BUT WE GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ON CERTAIN ITEMS. IF YOU LEFT THAT MEETING, THAT OPEN MEETING AND TALKED TO ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'D BE FINE.

EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY KNOW WHERE OTHER PEOPLE STAND BASED ON THEIR FEEDBACK, BECAUSE IT ALL HAPPENED IN AN OPEN MEETING. RIGHT? AND SO IF I WANTED TO TALK TO SOMEBODY NOT IN AN OPEN MEETING, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE THERE'S AN OPEN MEETING. THERE ARE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WATCHING THIS VIDEO KNOW WHERE THESE THREE PEOPLE STAND. RIGHT. AND THEN I GO AND I TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, AND THEN I GO AND TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY. AND NOW I KNOW

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IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT HOW YOU VIEW GOVERNANCE AND HOW YOU'RE TRYING TO APPROACH YOUR WORK.

SO EACH COUNCIL AND EACH PLACE HAS DIFFERENT COMMITTEES FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES, BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE IN ANY PLACE I'VE EVER BEEN WITH ANY KIND OF ISSUES LIKE THAT. I DO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT ON THE TABLE VERY CLEARLY TODAY.

WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S AN ISSUE. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER TOBIAS? ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL START HERE. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OUR OUR CHARTER ITSELF. BECAUSE WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE QUORUM AND THE ATTENDANCE AND I'M LOOKING AT THE CHARTER HERE FOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL SHALL CONSTITUTE A QUORUM FOR TRANSACTING BUSINESS. AND NO ACTION OF THE COUNCIL SHALL BE VALID OR BINDING UNLESS IN AN OPEN MEETING WITH A QUORUM PRESENT, THE QUORUM MAY ADJOURN ANY MEETING, AND IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL TO ATTEND EACH REGULAR AND SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING, CORRECT? NO. THESE WOULD THESE WOULD BE MEETINGS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES. B SO SO THE CHARTER WOULD. SO IT ACCORDING HERE IT SAYS WE HAVE THEY HAVE TO ATTEND EACH REGULAR AND SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. OF COURSE IT SAYS IF YOU MISS THREE THEN YOU'RE IN TROUBLE. RIGHT. AND THEN IT SAYS THEY SHOULD HOLD THE MEETINGS SHALL BE ONE REGULAR MEETING EACH MONTH. AND MEETINGS SHALL BE HELD ON A SCHEDULED AS THE DATES ASSIGNED. AND THE COUNCIL SHALL FIX THE DATES AND THE TIMES OF REGULAR MEETINGS. SO HOW WOULD THESE SUBCOMMITTEES INTERACT WITH THE CHARTER ITSELF, AS FAR AS THE STRUCTURE IS, OR IS IT GOING TO BE SEPARATE? THESE ARE SEPARATE. THESE ARE NOT CONSIDERED REGULAR MEETINGS OR SPECIAL MEETINGS. THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR. YOU'VE MANY OF YOU HAVE SERVED ON TASK FORCES BEFORE, WHETHER IT WAS LAKE KENSINGTON OR THE SPORTS COMPLEX OR OTHER MATTERS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. THESE ARE THERE'S VERY SIMILAR. WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE IS THAT IT IS MORE TRANSPARENT. THERE ARE OPEN MEETINGS. THERE'LL BE A SET AGENDAS AND THEY'LL BE PUBLIC. THE TASK FORCES HAVE NOT BEEN THAT WAY, AND THEY WERE VERY SIMILAR COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT THEY DID NOT COUNT TOWARDS ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ATTENDANCE AT THE REGULAR MEETINGS. SO THE COMMITTEES WILL FUNCTION JUST LIKE THE TASK FORCE. BUT WE THINK WITH AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF TRANSPARENCY AND BACKUP MATERIALS AND OPEN MEETINGS. OKAY. SO HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS A LITTLE BIT. ALL RIGHT. I GUESS FOR ME BEING ON COUNCIL FOR SIX YEARS NOW, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW AT THIS SPECIFIC MOMENT IN TIME WHY IT'S BEING CONSIDERED. IS IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL, A NEW DAIS THAT THAT MAY NOT, I GUESS, IS SAYING TO GET CAUGHT UP ON PROJECTS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE FOUR NEW MEMBERS. IS THIS SOME OF THE REASONING WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES VERSUS PREVIOUS DIOCESE OR PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER PREVIOUS COUNCILS WHERE WE DIDN'T BRING THIS UP BEFORE? I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW THE TIMING. I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ON ON THE DAIS. I WOULD SAY IT'S PART OF THE CITY'S NATURAL GROWTH CURVE. I WASN'T BROUGHT UP OR WHY THEY WERE NEVER PUT TOGETHER IN THE PAST. I CAN'T SPEAK TO. HOWEVER, THE AMOUNT OF ITEMS AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE COMING FORWARD FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE AND THE ABILITY TO GET THROUGH THEM IN JUST TWO SIMPLE, REGULAR MEETINGS AS WE GO THROUGH IS BECOMING HARDER AND HARDER. I THIS MEETING IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. I DON'T THINK WE'VE HIT ACTUAL ACTUAL COUNCIL ACTION YET. WE'VE HIT SOME WORK SESSIONS. WE'VE HIT CONSENT.

THIS MIGHT BE THE FIRST ACTION THAT WE'VE PULLED UP AND IT'S 1030, SO WE'VE HAD A COUPLE MEETINGS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T. WE'VE HAD TO PUSH ITEMS, AND WE'RE

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WE ASK THE FUNDING, WE ASK ALL THIS OTHER STUFF. RIGHT? AND THEN WE COME TO A CONSENSUS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE MAYOR FLORES IS SAYING, OKAY, WELL, THAT MEANS ALREADY THESE THREE ARE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND AS FAR AS THE DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO MAKING THE VOTE OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE CAN THEN ADD WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THAT MEETING AND TO GIVE THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. BUT THEN AGAIN, THE COUNCIL, THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN OPINIONS GOING FORWARD. IS THAT WHAT THE WHOLE STRUCTURE OF IT IS, IS TO BE ABLE TO BREAK THOSE, BREAK THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DOWN. IT'S VERY WELL OUTLINED. AND I TO THE CITY MANAGER'S POINT, I WOULD THIS QUESTION OF THE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS AND IT DRAWING OUT EVEN LONGER. I WOULD POINT TO THE TASK FORCE

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AND SO I GUESS MY EXAMPLE WOULD BE LIKE I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME CURIOSITY AROUND LIKE A PAYROLL AUDIT OR LIKE REVIEWING THAT. SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE ACTUALLY WANT TO DO THAT OR LOOK INTO IT AND ASK QUESTIONS, SEE MAYBE WHAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND LIKE, LET'S SIT DOWN WITH STAFF AND LET'S GO THROUGH OUR PAYROLL NUMBERS. AND AND THEY GET TO ASK THOSE VERY, VERY DETAILED IN THE WEEDS TYPE OF QUESTIONS.

CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. THIS LAST WEEK WE HAD OUR BOND COUNCIL COME IN AND EXECUTIVE STAFF SAT WITH THE BOND COUNCIL. WE LOOKED AT A 30 YEAR FORECAST OF TAX RATES. WE LOOKED AT DEBT MANAGEMENT. WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DEBT MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES. WE LOOKED AT CURRENT DEBT. WE LOOKED AT FUTURE DEBT. I MEAN, IT WAS A THREE HOUR PLUS CONVERSATION. AND THE ENTIRE TIME EXECUTIVE STAFF WENT, THIS SHOULD BE A FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING. THERE SHOULD BE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN HERE. WE SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH THIS. THERE SHOULD BE AS MUCH Q&A FROM THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE, BECAUSE IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. IT'S VERY COMPLEX ORGANIZATION LIKE OURS AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S PASSING THROUGH IT. BUT THAT WAS THE PERFECT TIME TO SIT AND DISCUSS IT. WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT AMOUNT OF TIME IN DETAIL IN A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, OR EVEN A WORK SESSION MEETING TO SIT FOR THREE, 3.5 HOURS. AND I DON'T THINK COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO SIT THERE AND ASK AS MANY QUESTIONS AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE WHILE SOMEONE ELSE IS WAITING FOR ANOTHER ITEM THAT'S COMING UP. SO IT'S THE IT'S THE PERFECT SETTING FOR THOSE TYPE OF MEETINGS. OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS GIVES OUR RESIDENTS MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE. AND THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION FROM RECURRING INDIVIDUALS ABOUT MISTRUST WITH CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED EITHER ON OR OFF THE DAIS WITH PREVIOUS COUNCILS. AT A CERTAIN POINT, EACH ONE OF US IS GOING TO BE ROTATED OFF THE DAIS AT SOME

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AND I GOT MY ANSWER FROM THAT, SO I WON'T NEED TO ASK THAT ON THE DAIS. AND I THINK THAT ALSO ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THROUGH MORE WORK AS WELL, BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE HEARD COMPLAINTS AND, AND JUST CONCERN ABOUT HOW PACKED OUR AGENDAS ARE. AND I THINK THE REALITY IS, IS THAT THEY FEEL PACKED BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE THE RATE AT WHICH WE'RE GROWING REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE THESE HEAVIER AGENDA ITEMS. AND SO THIS ALLOWS SOME OF THAT TO BE KIND OF SPREAD OUT. SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT ALL, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO SIT HERE BEFORE MIDNIGHT WHEN WE ALL TURN INTO PUMPKINS. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS WOULD JUST ALLOW THOSE DETAILED CONVERSATIONS INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, WHETHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT OR NOT. AND I THINK GIVE OUR RESIDENTS A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY ENGAGE, LIKE WE'RE INCREASING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE WITH THE CITY. AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT. AND YEAH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILMEMBER GOZA, I HAD SOME CONCERNS. SO ONE, I KNOW OUR CHARTER SAYS THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER SHOULD ARE THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE MAKING THE AGENDAS. SO BASED ON THAT, I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT AN AGENDA COMMITTEE WORKS WITH THE FLOW OF HOW THE CHARTER WAS STRUCTURED. TWO I AM SEEING A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY ARE AFRAID THAT IT WILL MAKE IT ACTUALLY LESS TRANSPARENT. SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DOING THESE DEEP DIVES IN AN OPEN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE IS NOT ANYTHING THAT PREVENTS US FROM GOING AND FIGURING OUT WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO VOTE. AND SO THEN WHEN WE GET ON THE DAIS, WE MAY HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT ALL BEHIND THE SCENES. SO MAYBE WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT AS MUCH UP HERE. AND THEN THE CITIZENS ARE DEPRIVED OF HEARING THAT INFORMATION THAT WE ALL NEEDED TO GET DURING THAT MEETING TO COME TO OUR CONCLUSION. AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT FELT THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES WITH OUR PREVIOUS COUNCIL, AND I DON'T REALLY WANT TO MAKE IT GIVE ANY ILLUSION OF THAT APPEARANCE HERE WITH THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ALL ABOUT BEING TRANSPARENT, ALL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE HEARD. AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY RELEVANT HERE. SURE, ABSOLUTELY. FIRST OF ALL, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL AREN'T ALL TALKING BEHIND THE SCENES. BUT THE FIRST THING TO THE TO THE TO THE POINT OF THE MAYOR STATING THAT THE MAYOR WOULD BE ON THAT AGENDA COMMITTEE AND THAT AGENDA COMMITTEE, SHE WOULD LEAD THAT AGENDA COMMITTEE. SO WITH THE CITY MANAGER THERE AS WELL, SO THEY WOULD STILL BE SETTING THE AGENDA. AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS WE VIEW THIS AS BEING TWICE, IF NOT THREE TIMES AS MORE TRANSPARENT. WE WOULD NEVER TRUNCATE ANYTHING OR ANY BACKUP THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO A REGULAR MEETING AS WE BRING THOSE ITEMS FORWARD. IF ANYTHING, IT LETS THE PUBLIC HAVE TWO LOOKS AT IT AND A DEEPER DIVE. LOOK AT IT. SO THESE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT HAVE NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, AND THESE DEEP DIVES THAT HAVE NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, WOULD BE COMPLETELY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THEY COULD COME, THEY COULD WATCH IT. AND THEN ALL OF THE BACKUP FOR ALL OF THOSE DEEP DIVE ITEMS AND EVERYTHING WOULD ALSO BE POSTED WITH THESE ITEMS, JUST LIKE WE POSED FOR THESE. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, IT WOULD COME BACK TO THIS MEETING, TO THE REGULAR MEETING WITH ALL OF THE SAME BACKUP AND THE EXPERTISE OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT SAT THROUGH ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST IS A HUGE THING. WE FEEL THIS IS WAY MORE TRANSPARENT THAN JUST COMING TO

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AND SO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING ME TO DO IS TO COMMIT ADDITIONAL TIME. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE STAFF TIME AS WELL. AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE TIME COMMITMENT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE FOR STAFF TO PUT ONLINE THE CREDIT CARDS. AND NOW WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ASK THEM TO COMMIT MORE TIME TO TO PREPARE FOR THESE MEETINGS AND TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT. IF WE'RE SAYING WE NEED TO UTILIZE STAFF TIME WISELY, THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THESE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR MEETINGS GO ANY FASTER. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW I ASKED PROBABLY THE MOST QUESTIONS AND I SPEAK THE MOST, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE ON EVERY COMMITTEE AND ASKING ME TO BE ON AN AGENDA. CREATING COMMITTEE IS A BIG ASK, RIGHT? AND I'M OKAY WITH IT IF WE DON'T DO IT ALL THE TIME. BUT I HAVE KIDS, I WORK FULL TIME AND I DO COUNCIL AT LEAST 40 HOURS A WEEK. I'M COMMITTED TO MY RESIDENTS. AND MAYBE IF YOU KNOW, I HEAR THAT NOT EVERYBODY RESPONDS TO EMAILS. AND IF WE ARE RESPONDING AND AS COMMITTED TO THE RESIDENTS, NOT JUST TO EACH OTHER IN MEETINGS, BUT ALSO COMMUNICATING WITH THEM, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT WE THEY ASK US QUESTIONS, WE RESPOND, WE GATHER THAT INFORMATION BACK FROM STAFF. I WILL SAY I JUST REQUESTED INFORMATION ON THE OLD STAGECOACH ROAD AND THAT AND THAT WAS FROM THE RESIDENT. AND I LEARNED A WHOLE BUNCH ABOUT THAT ROAD AND THAT BOND. SO MY COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS, I THINK, IS WHAT ALLOWS ME TO DIVE DEEPER. I ASKED FOR A PRESENTATION AND IT FAILED TO SHOW FINANCIALS OVER

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WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE TIME COMMITMENT, BUT OBVIOUSLY FROM A COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU. THE OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION, MAYOR, I JUST I WOULD NEVER WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK THAT WE'RE BRINGING SOMETHING TO YOU AND PUTTING IT ON YOUR RULES OF COUNCIL WITHOUT ANY DIRECTION OR TALKING TO YOU. WE SPOKE EXTENSIVELY WITH COUNCIL AT THIS IN THE VISIONING WORKSHOP, AND THEN AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 5TH IN AN OPEN MEETING WHERE WE HAD A WHOLE DISCUSSION ON IT AND THE DIRECTION WAS TO BRING IT BACK. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE ON THE RULES OF COUNCIL. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T BRING IT WITHOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL. THANK YOU SIR. YEAH. JUST I MENTIONED TO A RESIDENT THE OTHER DAY IT WAS SUPER BOWL SUNDAY AND FAMILY WAS THERE, BUT I WAS DOING ONLINE TRAINING FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE AND ANSWERING EMAILS FOR MONDAY. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SIX YEARS AND IT IS A BIG COMMITMENT. AND THERE'S TIMES I'M EMAILING YOU AT FOUR IN THE MORNING RIGHT WHEN I WAKE UP FROM BEFORE I GO TO WORK, I'M TEXTING YOU GUYS AND TRYING TO GET A RESPONSE BY THE TIME I GET OFF WORK. SO I'M EMAILING PEOPLE AT 3:00, SOMETIMES 4:00 IN THE MORNING, JUST SO THAT WAY RESPONSE BACK BY THE AFTERNOON. AND THEN I THINK I'M JUST GENUINELY CONFUSED HOW MORE OPEN MEETINGS WITH ITEMS THAT ALERT RESIDENTS AS TO WHAT WILL BE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE IN FUTURE MONTHS WITH MORE BACKUP INFORMATION. WITH THE ABILITY FOR US TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS, WITH THE ABILITY FOR RESIDENTS TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS, HOW THAT'S NOT INCREASING TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, BECAUSE THAT AND TIME ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TRANSPARENCY COMES AT A COST. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR EVERY SINGLE OPEN HOUSE THAT WE HOST, THAT'S IN THE NAME OF TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND SEEKING RESIDENT FEEDBACK.

AND THAT IS ALSO TIME. SO TRANSPARENCY AND OUR WANT FOR IT IS GOING TO COST US TIME.

AND IF THAT SEEMS TO BE THE GOAL OF THIS COUNCIL IS TO PRIORITIZE THAT THIS IS A MECHANISM TO DO THAT, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE NOT HAPPENING ON THE DAIS.

AND THIS WILL ALLOW THESE CONVERSATIONS TO HAPPEN ON THE DAIS IN A RECORDED SETTING, IN A OPEN, PUBLIC, PUBLICLY NOTIFIED MEETING. I THINK I JUST I REALLY WANT TO STRESS THAT, ONCE AGAIN, TRANSPARENCY COMES AT A COST. IT REQUIRES US TO HAVE TIME TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. IT REQUIRES STAFF TIME AS WELL. AND IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL IS PRIORITIZING, IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NO STRANGER TO SENDING 4 OR 5 A.M. EMAILS WHEN I'M BARELY GOING TO SLEEP, ACTUALLY. AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WAKING UP AND GOING TO MY FULL TIME JOB. I THINK THAT THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW ME TO ASK EVEN MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS, AND KNOW THAT I WILL HAVE A SPECIFIC TIME AND A DEDICATED, SPECIFIC TIME FOR CERTAIN AGENDA ITEMS TO BE ABLE TO DO SO. SO IN OTHER WORDS, I COULD ALSO BE SAVING MYSELF SOME TIME AND GETTING MYSELF SOME MORE SLEEP AS WELL. SO I THINK I JUST, I REALLY DO THINK THAT THIS IS THE TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE ON, WHETHER WE VOTE TO DO IT TODAY OR AT A LATER DATE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WILL ADOPT AT A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME. THERE'S OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE STATE WHO

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BUT I'M JUST SAYING I GOT A LOT ON MY PLATE. AND KYLE, TEXAS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WHAT BRIAN DOES OR WHAT BURLESON DOES OR WHAT ANY OTHER CITY DOES. WE AS A COUNCIL CAN SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT. YES YOU CAN. YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS BEHIND THE SCENE. IT'S WHAT I DO. I GOT COMPLAINTS THAT I HAVE TOO MANY EMAILS. WHY? BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW. COUNCIL MEMBER. I SAID YES. WHAT SHE SAID. I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE COUNCIL COMMITTEES. I THINK IT'S A MATURITY ISSUE FOR OUR CITY.

IT'S WHAT OTHER CITIES DO. I'VE SEEN THEM FUNCTION VERY WELL IN OTHER CITIES. YES, THEY TAKE SOME TIME, BUT THEY DO ALSO CONTROL THE TIME ON THE AGENDA. DURING THE REGULAR MEETINGS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE NOT GETTING TO ALL OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS, NOR ARE WE GETTING TO ALL OF OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. THIS WILL HELP US WITH THAT. SPLITTING IT OUT. I WOULDN'T MIND BEING ON ANY OF THOSE COMMITTEES. I DON'T KNOW WHO'S NOT ANSWERING THEIR EMAILS, BUT I THINK EVERYONE IS. WE ALL SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS, AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR ANY PERSON SITTING HERE ON THE DAIS. I KNOW WE ALL DO. I LIKE THE IDEA. I THINK IT STRENGTHENS US. I THINK IT DOES PROVIDE A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY. I THINK IT WILL WORK WELL, AND IF IT DOESN'T, IN SIX MONTHS, WE CAN COME BACK AND GO, OH MY GOSH, WE MADE A BIG MISTAKE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TRY THIS. ALL RIGHT. ANY MOTIONS? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN I CAN SEE THERE ARE SOME PROS AND CONS OBVIOUSLY. TO DOCTOR HARRIS'S POINT, LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS NOT WORKING. YOU KNOW, BY NOT GETTING THROUGH AN AGENDA, WE'RE FAILING OUR RESIDENTS, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. WE ARE NOT ACCOMPLISHING THE JOBS THAT WE WERE ELECTED TO DO. AND SO IF IF THIS IS THE ALTERNATIVE, THAT THAT MAKES US WORK MORE EFFICIENTLY SO THAT WE DO GET THROUGH EVERYTHING AND WE ARE ABLE TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS TO THE CAPACITY THAT THEY DESERVE, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE IT OUT. IT TO ME, IT'S EITHER THIS OR WE START MEETING EVERY WEEK OR WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENTLY MORE AND MORE MEETINGS AS A COMPLETE BODY, WHICH TAKES UP ARGUABLY EVEN MORE OF THE COLLECTIVE TIME THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. SO I FEEL LIKE TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS DEFINITELY WORTH PURSUING CONSIDERING WHAT HAS WORKED. WHAT IS DOING RIGHT NOW IS NOT WORKING. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AND WE MIGHT REGRET IT

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I LOOK OVER IT. DON'T LOOK AT IT UNTIL SUNDAY. SUNDAY 5:00 I REVIEW EVERYTHING, GO BACK TO MY NOTES, SEE WHAT MY FIRST AND SECOND READINGS ARE. I REVIEW ALL THE INFORMATION. I'VE GOT QUESTIONS. I SEND THEM STRAIGHT TO BRIAN. I SEND THEM STRAIGHT TO LEON PERVEZ. I SEND THEM STRAIGHT SUNDAY NIGHT AND THEN MONDAY I GET MY RESPONSE. I NEEDED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE CHIEF. I THEN SEND IT THROUGH THERE AND GET A RESPONSE BY TUESDAY. SO BY TUESDAY I HAVE ALL MY HOMEWORK DONE. I HAVE ALL MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED, AND THEN THAT WAY WHEN I COME UP, IT'S EITHER JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION OR JUST A REPHRASE, AND I CAN MAKE MY VOTE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MATTERS THE MOST IS THE PEOPLE GO, HOW DID YOU VOTE? AND SO FORTH. TRANSPARENCY IS ALSO RESPONDING BACK TO YOUR YOUR CONSTITUENTS OR ANSWERING PHONE CALLS OR REPLYING BACK TO CALLS. THAT'S HOW I DO MINE, BUT THAT'S HOW I DO MINE. ON MY END. EVERYBODY'S DIFFERENT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE A BIG TIME COMMITMENT. IF YOU DO GO TO SUBCOMMITTEES, THINK ABOUT THAT. PLUS THE WORK SESSION PLUS BUDGET, SEASON, BUDGET, SEASON. WE'RE HERE TO 2:00, SOMETIMES 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, AND WE START AT 7 OR 8:00 IN THE MORNING ON SATURDAYS. SO WE NEED TO START GEARING UP FOR THAT. I CAN UNDERSTAND FROM SOME OF THE OTHER COLLEAGUES THAT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD PROPOSAL, BUT FOR ME RIGHT NOW, I JUST I'M JUST NOT REALLY FULLY COMMITTED TO IT JUST YET BECAUSE I KNOW WITH MY EXPERIENCE WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON. WE GOT BUDGET LAST YEAR WAS OUR LARGEST BUDGET WE'VE EVER HAD FOR THE CITY, AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WATER RATES. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START DISSECTING A LOT OF THAT STUFF. SO I ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TIME OF IT AS WELL. YEAH.

MAYBE WE CAN BRING IT BACK AFTER BUDGET AND WE CAN LOOK AT FORMING THEM AGAIN. BECAUSE MY, MY, MY WANT IS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SEPARATE BUDGET MEETINGS SO PEOPLE CAN RESIDENTS CAN COME IN AND TALK TO US AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION INDIVIDUALLY. I KNOW YEAR BEFORE MAYBE LAST YEAR, THEY WERE ALL TOGETHER COUNCIL MEETINGS AND BUDGET MEETINGS. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE STANDALONE BUDGET MEETINGS. AND AS AS I'VE LIVED THROUGH FOR THREE DIFFERENT BUDGETS, IT IS THAT IS A FULL TIME COMMITMENT AS WELL. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, 3 OR 4 MEETINGS A MONTH FOR HOURS AT A TIME, PLUS REGULAR VISITS, PLUS EXECUTIVE PLUS PRESENTATIONS AND SO FORTH, ALL IN ONE NIGHT. WE DO HAVE THE UPCOMING JUST THROW THIS IN THERE AS A PLUG AT THE UPCOMING VISIONING MARCH 6TH THROUGH EIGHTH, WHERE WE HAVE A SECTION THERE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET AND HOW WE WANT TO BRING IT FORWARD. THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT. WE'VE DONE IT DIFFERENTLY HERE YEAR OVER YEAR, SO THAT'LL BE A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE. THE OTHER THING WITH THE WORK SESSION VERSUS THE REGULAR SESSION MEETINGS IS THE IDEA IS NOT THAT WE HAVE ON TUESDAY NIGHT, GO TO ONE IN THE MORNING, THEN THE NEXT WEEK ON THURSDAY, GO TO ONE IN THE MORNING, THEN THE NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY, GO TO ONE IN THE MORNING. THE IDEA IS THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU TIME BACK THAT THE REGULAR MEETINGS ARE SHORTER, THE WORK SESSION MEETINGS ARE SHORTER, THE NEXT

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AGAIN WE MAY BE CONFUSING DIFFERENT TOPICS, BUT THESE ARE JUST A THIRD MEETING ONCE A MONTH THAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOR WORK SESSION ONLY TOPICS. SO ITEMS THAT DON'T REQUIRE A VOTE.

BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR GENERAL CONSENSUS AND DIRECTION ON IT. AND IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR ONE FIVE MONTHS. NO, THIS WAS THE INTENT TO MAKE IT PERMANENT. WE CAN, WE CAN WE CAN SCHEDULE SOME. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO PUT IT IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL. I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW IT WORKS OUT FIRST BEFORE WE CODIFY IT. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS. I DO LIKE THIS IDEA, BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT IS ANOTHER SIX HOUR MEETING WITH ALL THESE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF WE CAN MAKE IT TIME EFFICIENT, TWO HOURS EXTRA MEETING ONCE A MONTH, AND I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY EFFICIENT. BUT TWO HOURS IS NOT GOING TO DO IT. I PROBABLY HAVE 2 HOURS TO 3 HOURS OF EXEC SESSION ITEMS THAT I'VE BEEN WAITING TO GET TO YOU TONIGHT. JUST CAN'T GET THROUGH THEM IN AN HOUR. YOU CAN'T DO IT BETWEEN 6 AND 7. THE COUNCIL CANNOT GET THROUGH THEM. AND SO WE HAVE MANY MORE ITEMS THAT ARE STACKING UP THAT NEED DIRECTION AND DISCUSSION FROM YOU, AND THEN THE WORK SESSION ITEMS AS WELL. I WE CERTAINLY, AS JESSE SAID, THE GOAL IS NOT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF 1 A.M. MEETINGS. THE GOAL IS TO BE VERY EFFICIENT WITH YOUR TIME AND GET YOU IN AND OUT QUICKLY, AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A TWO HOUR MEETING. THAT COULD BE JUST ONE DISCUSSION, HONESTLY. SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF WORK. THE QUESTION IS, IS HOW DO YOU WANT TO APPROACH IT? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DISCUSS WITH YOU, THE GOVERNANCE AND THE RETREAT AND THE SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSIONS. HOW DO YOU WANT TO APPROACH ALL OF THIS? THERE'S COMPLEX INFORMATION. OKAY. I WOULD JUST MAKE A MOTION THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IS TO LEAVE OUT THE SUBCOMMITTEES FOR NOW AND MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 28 BASIS BASED ON THE WORK SESSION AND STRATEGY MEETINGS FOR REGULAR MEETINGS AND AGENDAS ON THAT END. BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO BE CAREFUL IF WE GO WITH THE PROPOSED DATE OF THE 19TH, THAT IS SPRING BREAK WEEK. THOSE THOSE DATES ARE JUST TENTATIVE. WE CAN CHANGE THOSE. IT CAN BE ANYTHING YOU WANT. AND THEN AT

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I RESCIND MY SECOND. OKAY. MAYOR, MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THEN THE WAY IT'S CLEAR ON THAT END, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE CLEAR. CLEAR AS DIRT. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL WORK SESSIONS THROUGH THE BUDGET. IS THAT RIGHT? WITHOUT PUTTING THEM IN THE RULES OF COUNCIL? YEAH.

YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S MY MOTION. I SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR FLORES CALE, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED. ITEM PASSES SEVEN ZERO. THANK YOU. AND YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. THIS WAS A REALLY HARD DISCUSSION. I HOPE EVERYBODY FEELS HEARD BECAUSE I KNOW WE CAN KIND OF GET INTO OUR OWN FEELINGS AND OUR OWN IDEAS, BUT I DO I DO THINK THIS IS A GOOD MEDIUM FOR NOW. SO UP NEXT WE HAVE LET'S SEE, WE'VE JUMPED AROUND EVERYWHERE. YEP. LIBRARY AGENDA

[22) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback on the Library Master Plan.]

COUNCIL LESLIE SCOTT, LIBRARY DIRECTOR. THIS EVENING I WOULD LIKE WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT OUR LIBRARY MASTER PLAN PRESENTATION. THIS IS MAUREEN, ON THE PRINCIPAL OF 720 DESIGNS.

AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST LET HER TAKE OVER. THANK YOU LESLIE. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR HAVING US TONIGHT. WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE RESULTS OF A YEARS LONG WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, WITH LIBRARY STAFF, WITH THE CITY STAFF TO COME UP WITH A MASTER PLAN. POINTING AT THE WRONG THING. SO I'LL GO. CAN I DO THIS? NOPE. IS MARCO STILL HERE? IS IT NOT MOVING? IT'S NOT MOVING. IT'S NOT MOVING AT ALL. OH, THERE WE GO. OH, YEAH.

THE. THE FASTEST YEAR LONG SUMMARY. THERE WE GO. OKAY. OKAY. I WANTED TO START WITH THE METHODOLOGY. SO HOW WE GOT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE LAST. WE STARTED WITH A KICKOFF MEETING WHERE WE PRESENTED AND LISTENED TO THE LIBRARY STAFF AND THE CITY STAFF ABOUT WHAT ARE THE GOALS FOR THIS PROJECT. AND THE OVERALL GOALS WERE TO CREATE A ROADMAP FOR THE FUTURE OF LIBRARY SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. IT NEEDED TO BE COMMUNITY DRIVEN. THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT. THE LIBRARY IS A COMMUNITY BUILDING. IT NEEDED TO BE DATA RICH, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OUR METHODOLOGY. WITH BENCHMARKING AND STANDARDS, IT NEEDED TO BE INNOVATIVE. WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL LOCATIONS AND COORDINATE ACROSS CITY INITIATIVES. THESE ARE KYLE'S 2030 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INITIATIVES. THE LIBRARY NEATLY FITS INTO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES A THRIVING AND

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WE SAW REALLY INTERESTING MEETING ROOMS AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS. WE ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THIS. WE MADE BIG POSTERS OF LIBRARY POSSIBILITIES, GAVE EVERYONE FIVE TICKETS TO BE ABLE TO VOTE, AND HELP US SET PRIORITIES. OF THOSE PRIORITIES, FIVE OF THEM WERE RELATED TO CHILDREN AND THREE OF THEM RELATED TO OUTDOOR SPACES. SO THEY WERE REALLY CLEAR THEMES ABOUT EARLY LITERACY, PLACES FOR FAMILIES, PLACES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER. OUTSIDE, DOING A STEM OR A MUSIC GARDEN. THE EXISTING LIBRARY HAS A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN RIGHT NOW. PLACES TO DO ARTS AND CRAFTS, INTERESTING SEATING, BEING ABLE TO SIT OUTSIDE, IMAGINATIVE PLAY, AND EVEN POTENTIALLY A COFFEE CART. WE DID AN ONLINE SURVEY. 628 RESIDENTS PARTICIPATED, INCLUDING 20 SPANISH LANGUAGE RESPONSES, AND ALMOST ALL OF THEM LIVE OR WORK IN KYLE OR HAYS COUNTY. AND YOU'LL SEE THE ENGAGEMENT. 26% WERE NON-USERS, AND THAT IS THE GOLDEN UNICORN THAT WE LOOK FOR WHEN WE'RE DOING SURVEYS IS WHO'S NOT USING THE LIBRARY AND WHY. AND SO YOU HAD 26% OF THESE PARTICIPANTS WHO AREN'T USING THE LIBRARY, BUT CARED ENOUGH ABOUT THE LIBRARY TO DO THE SURVEY. SO THAT WAS REALLY EXCITING FOR US. SO WHY AREN'T PEOPLE USING THE LIBRARY? THE BIGGEST REASON IS THE CHILDREN'S AREA IS TOO SMALL. YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE OF STORYTIME. KIDS ARE OVERFLOWING STORYTIME. THEY'RE OVERFLOWING INTO THE ENTIRE ENTIRETY OF THE LIBRARY. DOESN'T OCCUR TO ME TO GO THERE. THIS IS A PUBLIC RELATIONS AT THE LIBRARY HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON WITH NEW WEBSITES, NEW CALENDARS, NEW WAYS TO REACH PEOPLE. THE HOURS AREN'T CONVENIENT. THIS IS A CHALLENGE WITH STAFFING. THE LIBRARY DOESN'T HAVE WHAT I NEED. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE AND THE BUILDING DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. SO OVER 76% SAID THE CHILDREN'S SPACE IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR IN-PERSON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE SAID CHILDREN'S SPACES WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT. MANY FAMILIES GO TO OTHER NEIGHBORING LIBRARIES FOR CHILDREN'S SERVICES. AND WHAT DO THEY WANT? A SEPARATE, MORE SPACIOUS CHILDREN'S OWN INTERACTIVE PLAY, STEM AND STEAM ELEMENTS, MORE PROGRAM ROOMS AND INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SPACES. BOOKS ARE STILL THE BRAND FOR LIBRARIES, EVEN IN A DIGITAL ERA. COLLECTIONS REALLY MATTER. ALMOST 77% SAID PHYSICAL COLLECTIONS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. AS CHILDREN TAKE OVER ALL OF THE SPACE IN THE EXISTING LIBRARY, QUIET SPACES AND STUDY SPACES HAVE BECOME MORE IMPORTANT. THIS IS NUMBER THREE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT SPACES, AND THEN WE ASK ABOUT MEETING SPACES. AND THE RESPONDENTS WERE EVENLY DIVIDED ABOUT THE TYPES OF MEETING SPACES THAT THEY WANT, AND EVEN MORE SO THAT THEY WANT MORE MEETING SPACES. FOR OUTDOOR SPACES. THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT CHILDREN'S OUTDOOR SPACES, INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCES, PORCHES FOR STUDYING AND READING, AND SHADED AREAS FOR NATURAL PLAY. AND THEN, AS WE SAID, ONE OF THE GOALS WAS TO DETERMINE WHERE A LIBRARY SHOULD BE WITHIN THE CITY OF

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SOME OF YOU PARTICIPATED IN THOSE AS WELL. WE MET WITH CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS, LIBRARY BOARD, LIBRARY STAFF AND GOT ALL OF YOUR INPUT. THE NUMBER ONE THEME THAT CAME OUT WAS THE LIBRARY'S CRITICALLY UNDERSIZED. THAT GEOGRAPHY AND EQUITY OF ACCESS ARE MAJOR. ISSUE 35 GOES STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR OF YOUR CITY, AND THERE'S A BIG DEMAND FOR COMMUNITY GATHERING SPACES. THOSE ARE THE TOP FOUR THEMES THAT CAME UP. OVERALL. WE HAD 800 CITIZENS PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS AND GIVE US INPUT. SO I FEEL LIKE WE MET THAT GOAL OF THIS BEING A COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROCESS. WE ALSO DID AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN. WHAT DOES THE CITY OF KYLE LOOK LIKE? AND WE PULLED THIS FROM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOUR BIGGEST DEMOGRAPHIC IS UP AND COMING FAMILIES. ALMOST 88%. NONE OF THE OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC CATEGORIES HAD A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE THAT WERE EVEN WORTH PUTTING IN HERE. AND SO THIS REALLY SHOWS UP IN THE RESULTS FROM THE SURVEY AND THE RESULTS FROM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AS PART OF THIS, WE ALSO LOOKED AT POPULATION. SO THE TARGET THAT WAS SET WAS TO PLAN FOR A BUILD OUT POPULATION OF 200,000 PEOPLE. THE GOAL AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE STANDARDS, IS FOR 8.8FT■!S PER CAPITA OF SPACE WITHIN THE LIBRARY PER PERSON. THE STATE LIBRARY DETERMINES THE SERVICE POPULATION FOR ALL TEXAS LIBRARIES. AND SO PART OF HAYS COUNTY POPULATION NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS AS WELL. SO WE LOOKED AT BENCHMARKS. WE LOOKED AT ALL TEXAS CITIES. WE LOOKED AT THOSE WITH THAT ARE LARGER WITH FAST GROWING POPULATION. WE LOOKED AT SOME THAT ARE ASPIRATIONAL. WHAT DOES KYLE WANT TO BE IN THE FUTURE? AND THEN ALSO CITIES AT KYLE TYPICALLY COMPARES YOURSELF TO. WE LOOK AT THE BENCHMARKS FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE. THE YELLOW BAR IS KYLE'S CURRENT SQUARE FOOTAGE. PER CAPITA, IT'S LISTED AS 0.3. THIS IS ACTUALLY ROUNDED UP. THE ACTUAL NUMBER IS 0.26. SO YOU CAN SEE ONLY LEANDER IS SMALLER THAN YOURS.

AND WITH A PLANNING TARGET OF 0.8FT■!S PER CAPITA, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THAT THEME CAME UP? THAT THE LIBRARY IS CRITICALLY UNDERSIZED. WE LOOKED AT THE COLLECTION AS WELL. THE LIBRARY HAS A BIG PHYSICAL COLLECTION, BUT IT'S NOT BEING USED. AND SO THE LIBRARY JUMPED ON THIS DATA POINT RIGHT AWAY. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON WEEDING THE COLLECTION, REPLACING IT WITH CURATING THE COLLECTION IN A WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO READ AND JOIN A CONSORTIUM THAT INCREASED THE DIGITAL COLLECTION SIGNIFICANTLY.

ALMOST A MILLION TITLES ON THE DIGITAL COLLECTION. SO THIS PART HAS BEEN ADDRESSED ALREADY.

YOUR COMMUNITY USES THE COMPUTERS A LOT, AND SO THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED AS WE SPEAK AS WELL. NEW COMPUTERS ARE BEING INSTALLED IN THE LIBRARY. THE WI-FI IS BEING MADE MORE ROBUST.

THIS IS THE LIBRARY USE AND VISITORS. YOU REMEMBER I SAID 27% OF THE RESPONDENTS TO THE SURVEY WERE NOT LIBRARY USERS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THE BENCHMARKS WE'RE AT AMONGST THE LOWEST, WE KNOW THAT THE GEOGRAPHIC DIVIDE COMPLICATES THIS. WE KNOW THAT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING COMPLICATES IT. WE KNOW THE LOCATION COMPLICATES IT. AND HOURS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS PLAY A ROLE IN THE LIBRARY USAGE. AND CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A TARGET TO IMPROVE. SO REALLY, THE BENCHMARKING REALLY SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THE LIBRARY IS OUTPERFORMING WHAT IT'S BUILDING, WHAT ITS STAFFING LEVELS, WHAT ITS SQUARE FOOTAGE

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COMMUNITY DEMAND IS OUTPACING CAPACITY, AND A NEW AND FUTURE READY FACILITY IS ESSENTIAL FOR GROWING GROWING CITY. SO NOW WE MOVE INTO STANDARDS. THE SECOND PART OF THE OBJECTIVE DATA THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS STANDARDS AND ENHANCE LEVELED AND AN EXEMPLARY LEVEL THE ENHANCE LEVEL BUILDING UPON FOUNDATIONAL SERVICES, FOCUSING ON CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. THIS IS THE LEVEL THAT THE LIBRARY HAS CHOSEN TO TO MEET. AND THEN THE NATIONAL SPACE STANDARDS INCLUDE THREE LEVELS 0.6FT■!S PR CAPITA IS STANDARD, 0.8FT■!S IS WHERE WE SAID WAS THE TARGET GOAL AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, AND ONE SQUARE FEET PER CAPITA IS EXEMPLARY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE PER CAPITA FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS. FOR COMMUNITIES OF YOUR SIZE, WHICH IS SMALLER THAN ANY OF THE NATIONAL STANDARDS AT 0.47. SO WE LIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE LIBRARY TAKES NO ACTION. THIS LOOKS AT THE BUILDING THROUGH 2024. WE WOULD BE DOWN TO 0.16FT■!S PER CAPITA, WHICH IS QUITE LOW. SO USING THE THE STANDARD OF 0.8FT■!S PER CAPITA, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT CALLS FOR A BUILDING. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 200,000 POPULATION TARGET WITH THE HAYS COUNTY POPULATION OF 180,800FT■!S, WHICH IS QUITEA LARGE BUILDING, WE COULD LOOK AT THIS ANOTHER WAY. WE CAN LOOK AT IT FROM. THE TEXAS STATE AVERAGE, WHICH IS ABOUT 106,000.47FT■!S PER CAPITA. SO THERE'S A RANGE HERE OF BETWEEN NEEDING 106,000FT■!S TO 180,000. THOSE ARE STANDARDS AND RULES OF THUMB. WE ALSO LIKE TO LOOK AT IT FROM A COMPONENT PERSPECTIVE. SO THE STATE ALSO HAS COLLECTION STANDARDS. THIS IS A CHART THAT SHOWS THAT. AND TO HIT THE EXEMPLARY LEVEL FOR COLLECTIONS, YOU NEED ABOUT 42,000FT■!S JUST FOR THE BOOKS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SEATING STANDARDS. THREE SEATS PER 1000 POPULATION IS THE LOWEST OF THOSE STANDARDS. 12 SEATS PER 1000 IS THE HIGHEST THAT THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND SO WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IS THAT BUILD OUT, YOU WOULD NEED 678 SEATS. YOU CURRENTLY HAVE 103, WHICH STARTS TO SPEAK WHY PEOPLE AREN'T COMING IN AND STAYING IN THE LIBRARY, BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ENOUGH PLACES TO SIT. SIMILARLY WITH TECHNOLOGY, THERE ARE TWO LEVELS OF STANDARDS ONE PER 1500 SQUARE FEET AND ONE PER 2000FT■!S. WE'E USED THE MORE CONSERVATIVE METHOD. RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE 24. YOU SHOULD HAVE 38 AND IT BUILD OUT. YOU SHOULD HAVE 100. SO WE HAVE THE SUBJECTIVE DATA. WHAT DO THE WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IN A LIBRARY FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. AND WE HAVE THE OBJECTIVE DATA, THE STANDARDS AND THE BENCHMARKS, AND WE COMBINE THOSE INTO SOME SHORT TERM GOALS AND FOR POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR LONG TERM GOALS, THESE ARE ALL OPTIONS. THERE ARE 30, 50, 100 DIFFERENT WAYS TO PARSE THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THESE ARE BIG PICTURE TO GET AN IDEA OF THE DIRECTION THAT YOU ALL WANT TO HEAD AS A CITY. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE REALLY ALREADY AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH. THE LIBRARY HAS NOT SAT STILL THROUGH THIS YEARS LONG PROCESS. WHEN THEY HEARD OF SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE, THEY WERE ON IT BEFORE I COULD EVEN DOCUMENT IT.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ON HERE THAT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED WEBSITES, PROGRAM CALENDARS, SIGNAGE, QUIET STUDY PODS. IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE LIBRARY RECENTLY, YOU KNOW THEY HAVE NEW CARPET AND NEW PAINT AND THEY'RE GETTING A NEW SERVICE DESK. LOTS OF THINGS HAPPENING. EVEN I THINK THE BOOKMOBILE WAS DELIVERED ABOUT A MONTH AFTER WE STARTED THE PROCESS. AND SO THEY'RE STARTING TO BE A PRESENCE ON THE EAST SIDE OF 35 AS WELL.

MORE THINGS THAT ARE UNDER UNDER PROGRESS, INCREASING STAFF, ADDING ACOUSTICAL

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THERE COULD BE BOOK VENDING WHERE YOU COULD HAVE POPULAR MATERIALS THAT PEOPLE COULD BROWSE AND CHECK OUT FROM A VENDING MACHINE. THE PICTURE ON THE SCREEN IS FROM FRISCO. THIS IS A LITTLE OUTLET THAT THEY HAVE IN THE MALL, AND SO IT'S JUST A LEASED STOREFRONT SPACE.

BUT THEY HAVE SOME COMPUTERS, THEY HAVE COLLECTION. YOU CAN SEE THE SHELVING IS ALL ON CASTERS. THEY ROLL THOSE OUT OF THE WAY, HAVE STORY TIME IN THE MIDDLE. SO A QUICK AND EASY WAY TO GET SOME REALLY GOOD SERVICE ON THE EAST SIDE. AND THERE IS A PART TWO OF THE MASTER PLAN OF CONCEPTUAL DESIGN. WE HAVE NOT DONE A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR ANY OF THE OPTIONS YET. AND THEN STARTING TO THINK ABOUT FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. WHAT IS YOUR BOND CAPACITY, WHAT ARE GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND ALSO RESEARCHING POTENTIAL SITES? MIDTERM OPTIONS. SO ONCE YOU SEE THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, DECIDING ON THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO GO, FINALIZING FUNDING, A NEW BUILDING DESIGN PROCESS IS BETWEEN 12 AND 16 MONTHS. SO THAT DEPENDS ON HOW BIG THE BUILDING IS, HOW COMPLEX IT IS, AND BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION. 12 TO 20 MONTHS.

SO GETTING INTO THE OPTIONS, THE VERY FIRST OPTION, WE WANTED TO EXPLORE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE EXISTING SITE. SO WE DID A NEW LAYOUT AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN EXPAND THE EXISTING BUILDING BY A LITTLE OVER 16,000FT■!S AND STILL HAVE ENOUH PARKING TO SUPPORT A BUILDING OF THAT SIZE. SO THE TOTAL WOULD BE. THANK YOU. IT'S LATE. I FORGOT THE THE MATH. SO 30, ALMOST 40,000FT■!S ON YOUR EXISTING SITE. THERE ARE PROS AND CONS FOR ALL OF THESE PROS.

YOU ALREADY OWN THE SITE. THERE'S ROOM TO EXPAND. WE WOULD RECOMMEND AT THE SAME TIME DOING ABOUT A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT STOREFRONT. SO SIMILAR TO THAT FIRST PROJECT ON THE EAST SIDE, SO THAT THERE IS A PRESENCE OVER THERE. WE MET WITH SOME OF THE OTHER MASTER PLAN CONSULTANTS, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED. IF YOU DON'T REUSE THE LIBRARY, BECAUSE APPARENTLY CITY HALL NEEDS SOME SPACE. SO EVEN IF YOU EXPAND IT, THE LIBRARY THAT SPACE AND AND MOVED IT IN THE FUTURE, THAT SPACE WOULD BE REALLY USEFUL.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT COME UP ON ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. A RENOVATION PROJECT WILL MEAN THERE'S SOME INTERRUPTION OF SERVICES. YOU'RE THE LIBRARY STILL KIND OF OFF THE BEATEN PATH. THERE ARE SOME OPERATIONAL INEFFICIENCIES WITH HAVING TWO LOCATIONS FAR APART.

THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY IN SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS TO BE AN ANCHOR FOR DOWNTOWN. THIS OPTION WOULD NOT DO THAT, AND IT DOES NOT GET YOU TO THAT POINT EIGHT SQUARE FEET PER CAPITA. DOING THIS ALONE. WE DID MEET WITH PLANNING AND PLANNING POINTED US TO SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE SITES WITHIN THE KYLE COMMUNITY. AND SO OPTION TWO IS TO BE A LIBRARY SYSTEM. SO YOU WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE BRANCHES. THIS MAP SHOWS THE STAR WHERE THE EXISTING LIBRARY IS. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING WE'RE NOT IDENTIFYING ANY SPECIFIC SITE, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING WHERE BRANCHES COULD BE IN THE FUTURE. SO ON THIS ONE THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS. YOU COULD RENOVATE THE RENOVATE AND EXPAND THE EXISTING LIBRARY AND BUILD THREE BRANCHES. OR YOU COULD BUILD BRANCHES AND TURN THE EXISTING LIBRARY OVER TO CITY HALL SPACES. THE PROS OF THIS ARE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE CONTINUOUS LIBRARY SERVICE.

THERE WOULD BE NO INTERRUPTION. IT'S REALLY EASY TO PHASE THIS WAY. SO YOU COULD DO ONE BRANCH AT A TIME OVER TIME AND SPREAD THE COST OUT. THE CONS ARE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND SO THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT THINGS AT EACH LOCATION. SO IT'S NOT AS

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THE EXISTING LIBRARY WOULD REMAIN OPEN, BE A ONE STOP SHOP. ALL OF THE SERVICE WOULD BE LOCATED IN ONE PLACE. SO REALLY EFFICIENT FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR OPERATIONS, FOR MAINTENANCE.

YOU CAN ALSO PHASE. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A CASE STUDY WHERE THAT IS BEING DONE FOR THE CITY OF SALINA. THE BIGGEST CON OF THIS ONE IS IT'S A REALLY SIGNIFICANT FIRST COST. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SITES THAT PLANNING HAS HELPED US WITH TO DATE, AND THEY ALSO IDENTIFIED FOUR POTENTIAL SITES IN DOWNTOWN. THE FIRST CASE STUDY IS FROM THE CITY OF SALINA, ALSO A VERY FAST GROWING CITY IN TEXAS. IT'S ABOUT 40 MINUTES NORTH OF DALLAS, AND WE DID A MASTER PLAN FOR THEM THREE YEARS AGO, AND THE PROJECT IS NOW BEING BUILT. THEY ARE BUILDING 107,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THEIR DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS THEIR DOWNTOWN IS A SQUARE AND NOT A MAIN STREET. SO A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN HERE, BUT A SIMILAR SCALE. THERE IS A BASEMENT AND FOUR FLOORS. THE TOP FLOOR IS SET BACK. BUT THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT THE LIBRARY IS PLAN ON DAY ONE TO BE IN THE BASEMENT AND ON THE FIRST FLOOR, AND CITY OFFICES WILL BE ON TWO, THREE, AND FOUR. AS NEW CITY SPACES ARE BUILT, THE LIBRARY WILL EVENTUALLY TAKE OVER THAT ENTIRE BUILDING, SO PLAN TO BE PHASED WITHIN THE BUILDING WHILE MEETING THE NEEDS OF MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. SO THIS PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A 400 SPACE PARKING GARAGE AND THE TOTAL PROJECT. THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE WAS $102 MILLION. AND THEN WE ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THE ROUND ROCK DOWNTOWN LIBRARY BECAUSE IT IS ON A VERY TIGHT SITE, WHICH WOULD BE THE CASE IF WE BUILT IN YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA.

THEIR BUILDING IS 68,000FT■!S, WITH ABOUT A 300 SPACE PARKING GARAGE, ALL WITHIN ONE CITY BLOCK. AND NOW, THE MOMENT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR THE COSTS, WE HAVE DONE. CLOSE TO 400 PUBLIC LIBRARIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE'RE BASED IN DALLAS. MOST OF THEM ARE IN TEXAS.

THESE ARE SIX PROJECTS IN TEXAS WITH THEIR COMPARATIVE CONSTRUCTION COST. AND SO AT THE MOMENT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF DESIGN FOR THIS BUILDING. AND SO WHAT WE USE IS A ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE TO UNDERSTAND THE COST FOR YOUR BUILDING. WE DO KNOW THAT ESCALATION HAS BEEN PRETTY STEADY AT ABOUT 6 OR 7% OVER THE YEARS. SO THESE ARE RUN FOR TODAY'S NUMBERS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO PREDICT WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. THERE ARE SOME ASTERISKS ON THESE. THE CITY OF ANNA, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, CAME IN WITH $4 MILLION FOR THEIR SITE WORK. SO THERE ARE THERE'S A REASON WHY SOME OF THESE ARE MUCH LOWER DRIPPING SPRINGS. THE SITE IS SLOPED AND 100% ROCK, SO THE SITE COSTS THERE

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DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS A COMMENT. I GOT A CALL TODAY FROM THE BARTON'S THAT ON WORKPLACE. AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE OR THEY REQUEST TO BE ADDED TO THE POTENTIAL SITES. THEY'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THEY WOULD SHARE THE PARKING GARAGE ESPECIALLY. THEY REALLY. MRS. WARD WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST CREATED, OUR FIRST LIBRARY, I GUESS. SO THEY REALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS A GREAT FIT FOR THEM BECAUSE I SAID, HEY, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF YOUR RETAIL SPACE UP IF WE DO THAT.

AND THEY SAID, WE'RE WILLING TO SACRIFICE THAT, THAT'S FINE. WE JUST THINK IT WOULD BE SUCH A WONDERFUL ADDITION. WARD PLACE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS, GOES FROM THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT BURLESON AND MARKETPLACE KIND OF NORTH WHERE THAT'S NOT DEVELOPED AT ALL. THAT ROAD'S REALLY JUNKY. BUT AND THEN ON MARKETPLACE UP TO CITY LIGHTS AND THEY HAVE GIVEN THEIR PROVIDING A LOT OF OPEN SPACE AND PARK SPACE AS PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE VERY PROGRESSIVE IN THEIR IDEAS ON THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY'D LIKE TO BE INCLUDED AS A POTENTIAL LOCATION. WOULD THAT BE IF THEY BUILD A NEW ONE? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S SEVERAL OPTIONS. RIGHT. AND ONE OF THEM IS TO TO STAY WHERE WE'RE AT OR TO DO A BRANCH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED IN THE VISTA PARK AREA BECAUSE OF THE I LOOK AT THAT AS EAST CENTRAL OF OF OF THE CITY OF KYLE. BUT WHEN Y'ALL DID YOUR SURVEY, WAS THERE A LARGER SPECIFIC TYPE OF TERRITORY OR REGION WITHIN THE CITY THAT PEOPLE WERE REQUESTING FOR A BRANCH, OR WAS IT JUST WE'RE KIND OF JUST SHOPPING AROUND. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING OR THE IDEA OF THE DOWNTOWN, BUT I THINK IT'S ONLY, WHAT, SIX BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL ONE. SO. DO YOU THINK HAVING A LOCATION HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, OR WOULD YOU NEED TO MAYBE MOVE MORE NORTH OR MORE NORTHEAST? I THINK LIBRARIES ARE REALLY GREAT ANCHORS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE COME TO VISIT THE LIBRARY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CEDAR PARK LIBRARY, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN UP THERE AND YES, YOU JOINED US ON THAT, THAT WAS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AS WELL. AND THEY HAVE 2000 PEOPLE A DAY COME TO THE LIBRARY. AND SO AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE LIBRARY, THEY'RE GOING TO GET SOME COFFEE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE PARK, THEY'RE GOING TO SHOP. AND SO I THINK FOR THAT REASON ALONE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY SIX BLOCKS, THE VISIBILITY FOR THE LIBRARY WILL INCREASE THAT USAGE EVEN MORE A NEW BUILDING, MORE VISIBILITY. AND AS AN ANCHOR, YOU CAN GO TO THE

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THANK YOU. BUT REALLY, THAT'S ALL I. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THIS SITE PLANNING, MAKING SURE THAT ANY INVESTMENTS THAT WE MAKE, THAT WE'RE ALSO CARING FOR OUR RESIDENTS AT THE SAME TIME, KNOWING THAT IT WILL AFFECT LAND VALUES AROUND THEM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER? GARZA, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE PLANNING ON PULLING THESE FUNDS FROM. LIKE, ARE THEY ALREADY BUDGETED IN THE CIP? IS THIS GOING TO HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, NEWLY CREATED? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IT'S COMING TO A SATURDAY NEAR YOU OR MULTIPLE SATURDAYS NEAR YOU, BUT IT'S NOT BUDGETED. THIS WOULD BE A NEW CAPITAL PROJECT, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS IN CONTEXT OF THE OVERALL CAPITAL PLAN TO SEE WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

PRIORITIES. BUDGETING IS ALL ABOUT PRIORITIES. TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WANT TO PROGRAM THIS IN, OR DO YOU WANT TO WAIT A COUPLE YEARS AND WHEN DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT? THIS IS OUR FIRST MASTER PLAN, STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE LIBRARY. AND SO THIS IS OUR START OF ANYTHING FOR THE FUTURE. IT'S A GREAT FOUNDATIONAL START. RIGHT. AND I DO THINK IT'S DESIGNED TO BE INCREMENTAL IN NATURE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS YOU CAN DO IMMEDIATELY. AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS LONG TERM THAT WE CAN WORK ON. BUT I DO APPRECIATE HAVING THE PLANNING DOCUMENT SO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHERE TO START AND HAVE SOME AT LEAST SOME BASE LEVEL INFORMATION OF WHAT YOU THINK THE COST MIGHT BE. WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT DOING SATELLITE LIBRARIES OR OTHER THINGS, AND WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE DO, IT'S INTENTIONAL AND VERY THOUGHTFUL. I WANT TO SAY I LOVE THIS. THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION. I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN HE SAID, IT'S INCREMENTAL. AND I'VE BEEN READING A BOOK CALLED STRONG TOWNS AND IT TALKS ABOUT INCREMENTS. SO NOT BUILDING OUT ALL THE WAY. I'VE BEEN TO FRISCO. THAT TOWN IS AMAZING, JUST IN GENERAL. THEY HAVE A REALLY CUTE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR KIDS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT, BUT IT WAS REALLY GREAT. BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE ANY WAY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE LIMITED ON THE WAY THAT WE CAN GROW OUT? IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GROW UP? YES, FOR SURE. I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S A WAY TO EXPAND TO FULL CAPACITY. DO YOU. OH, YOU MEAN ON THE EXISTING SIDE? YES. I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS A WAY IT WASN'T DESIGNED STRUCTURALLY TO GO UP. AND SO IT WOULD BE A IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE. OKAY. AND IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE TO FIT THE PARKING TO GET YOU SAW THE SITE WAS REALLY FULL. THAT WAS THE MINIMUM CODE ORDINANCE PARKING ON THAT SITE. SO THERE WOULD BE SOME CHALLENGES. I JUST KNOW THAT THAT LIBRARY IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL. I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBER REMEMBERS IT WAS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LOVE THEIR LIBRARY AND TO GET IT WHERE IT'S AT WAS A BIG DEAL. SO TRYING TO HONOR THAT AND RETURN AND MAYBE THAT COULD BE JUST LIKE A BRANCH AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A BIGGER ONE. AND WHAT I'VE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS THEY WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE EAST SIDE FOR THAT. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT DEVALUING. I THINK I THINK IT'S KIND OF LIKE A FIRE DEPARTMENT. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE VALUES. IF YOU HAVE A LIBRARY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE JEALOUS. AND SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STICK IT IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE. SO I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF, HEY, WHERE IS THIS GROWTH PREDICTED AND DOING THE GIS OVERLAY? I THINK ALL THOSE ARE REALLY GREAT IDEAS. SO IF YOU GUYS CAN BRING THAT BACK, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. YEAH. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE PART OF IT, THE SIDEWALKS, THE THINGS LIKE THAT. I REMEMBER THE WHEN FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER DANIELLE PARSON AND I, AND I THINK I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ELSE WAS ON THAT TASK FORCE, MAYBE DEX, OR MAYBE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL SPOT WAS GOING TO BE WHERE VISTA PARK WAS, WAS GOING TO BE ON TOP OF THAT HILL. AND I REMEMBER WHEN. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, IT WAS ROBERT DEX. AND SO WE WERE IN THAT MEETING OVER THERE, THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT DESIGNING A FIVE STORY GOING UP. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I EVER TOLD YOU THE STORY. AND I TOLD PAUL BACK THEN WHERE YOU HAD YOUR LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO THE BOOK CLUB IN DOWNTOWN, LIKE LAMAR, SOUTH LAMAR, YOU HAVE THE BARNES AND NOBLES, YOU HAD YOUR READING

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AND SO THEY DID NOT LIKE HOW THEIR THEIR AREA WAS STRUCTURED. THE LIBRARIANS WERE NOT HAPPY WITH IT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO STRUCTURE OUR KIDS AREA SO THAT IT ISN'T SOMEPLACE THAT THEY JUST BRING THEIR DAYCARE AND HAVE THE KIDS PLAY. THAT'S REALLY NOT THE DESIGN OF A LIBRARY, BUT THERE IS TRUE LEARNING THAT'S GOING ON THERE. SO JUST AS A FINAL POINT ON THIS, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN FOR STAYING SO LATE AND DOING THE PRESENTATION. WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING THE COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY FORMALLY APPROVE THE MASTER PLAN. WE'LL LOOK AT BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU WITH SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. THAT WOULD BE AN ACTION ITEM. WE'LL NEED TO SEE EXACTLY WHEN WE CAN GET THIS. OTHER THESE OTHER DETAILS THAT YOU'VE ASKED MOST LIKELY END OF MARCH, EARLY APRIL, COME BACK AS AN ACTION ITEM UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC FEEDBACK, WE'LL COME BACK AND ASK YOU TO ADOPT THAT. CAN WE ADD THE YEAR 2035? BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THE YEARS AND THAT IT'S 2030 AND THEN IT'S 2040 AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO BUILD OUT FOR 2040 BECAUSE IT'S ENTIRELY TO FAR OUT, RIGHT? 2030 I FEEL, ISN'T EXACTLY FAR ENOUGH. SO CAN WE DO LIKE 20, 35 YEARS FOR 2030, 2040? YEAH I KNOW, YEAH. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE ARE LIMITED ON FUNDS. SO AS AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST PREPARE FOR 2050, I THINK THE REALITY IS FINANCIALLY AND TO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH OUR TAXPAYER, DOLLARS 2035 WOULD BE A GOOD MEDIUM WHERE WE'RE BUILT OUT FAR ENOUGH IN THE FUTURE THAT WHEN 2030 COMES AND WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT 2045, AND THEN I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ADD. SORRY, IS THERE A POTENTIAL THAT WE COULD INTEGRATE THE BUILDING, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT WE END UP CHOOSING A BROADER CAN WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO A BROADER LIKE ONE WATER DEMONSTRATION, LIKE BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WHETHER WE EXPAND OUR CURRENT LIBRARY OR WHATEVER BRANCHES IT IS THAT WE PROPOSE, I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE WHAT THOUGHTFUL, LONG TERM, WATER CONSCIOUS PUBLIC PLANNING LOOKS LIKE. AND I KNOW IT'S POSSIBLE, LIKE YOU HAVE THE WIMBERLEY, LIKE ONE WATER SCHOOL, WHICH IS AMAZING. AND LIKE AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY, I BELIEVE REUSES THEIR STORMWATER COLLECTION FOR LIKE THEIR TOILETS. AND SO THESE ARE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN ALSO ADD LIKE THAT STEM ELEMENT TO THINGS. AND AND YEAH, I JUST WANT US TO BE ALSO ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS. YES. SAN MARCOS ALSO COLLECTS THE RAINWATER OFF THE ROOF AND BIG. COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS. YEAH, WIMBERLEY DOES AS WELL THERE. THE LIBRARY'S ONE WATER. THE OTHER THING WE I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS MAKING IT LEED CERTIFIED, OR AT LEAST VERY ENERGY EFFICIENT.

MAYBE SOLAR ON THE ROOF. IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STEM OR IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING A AN EXAMPLE OF GOOD USE, THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA WAS SAYING, ONE WATER IS THE WAY TO GO. BUT I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO INCLUDE THE ENERGY ASPECT. SO LOTS OF GOOD INFORMATION. ARE YOU ASKING US TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER WORK

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[25) Consider approval of a resolution authorizing the City Manager to negotiate and execute a construction contract with Smith Contracting Co., Inc for the Windy Hill Road Improvement project in the amount of $8,207,539.12 which includes a 10% contingency of $820,753.91 for a total contract amount not to exceed $9,028,293.03.]

JUST TO RE-ACCLIMATE YOU PROJECT WILL WIDEN EXISTING TWO LANE ROAD TO FOUR LANES WITH A CENTER TURN LANE PROJECT WILL REALIGN THE EXISTING ROADWAY TO SMOOTH THE CURVES BETWEEN THE PROJECT LIMITS AS WELL. ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE ELIMINATION OF SIDEWALK ALONG THE ROAD ROUNDABOUT AT WINDY HILL AND THE INTERSECTIONS, AND PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS WILL PROVIDE A SAFER, MORE EFFICIENT ROADWAY THAT SUPPORTS KYLE'S CONTINUED GROWTH. A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND ON SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL REVIEW AND ACTION. JANUARY 2024 WINDY HILL ROAD PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. THE SCOPE OF THE ALIGNMENT. MARCH 2024 COUNCIL APPROVED LAND FOR FINAL DESIGN, WHICH IS THE CONSULTANT. WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE TONIGHT TO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. DECEMBER 25TH REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ISSUED AND JANUARY 15TH, 2026 PROPOSALS RECEIVED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AND THE SCOPE OF WORK IS CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENTS, ROADWAY DRAINAGE AND PEDESTRIAN UPGRADES INCLUDING CURB AND GUTTER, STORM SEWER AND SIDEWALKS, INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITY ENHANCEMENTS, INCLUDING OVERHEAD UTILITIES RELOCATED TO UNDERGROUND, WHICH WE'RE DOING ON SEVERAL ROAD BOND PROJECTS. SEVERAL MOBILITY AND SAFETY FEATURES, INCLUDING THE ELIMINATION OF MENTIONED RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACONS AS WELL SOME OF THE MILESTONES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. IF WE GO FORWARD, WINDY HILL ROAD WOULD BE THE THIRD PROJECT TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION AGAIN. YEAR OF CONSTRUCTION. THIS WILL BE THE NEXT ONE IN LINE, AND THEN WE'RE WORKING TO PLAN A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY NEAR THE START OF CONSTRUCTION.

WHENEVER WE START TO HAVE THAT TIMELINE REFINED, ONCE WE BRING A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD. SO THE RFP WAS ISSUED ON DECEMBER 8TH 25, AS I MENTIONED, AND THEN EIGHT RESPONSIVE RFP SUBMITTALS WERE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE DEADLINE. THE EIGHT PROPOSALS THAT WERE EVALUATED FOR AARON CONCRETE CONTRACTORS, CAPITAL EXCAVATION, DENUCCI CONSTRUCTORS, ASBELL CONSTRUCTION, JOE BLAND CONSTRUCTION, JORDAN FOSTER CONSTRUCTION, PATTON CONSTRUCTION, AND SMITH CONTRACTING. THE CRITERIA THAT WERE USED WERE PRETTY SIMPLE.

ONE WAS A CONTRACTOR'S EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS FOR 25 POINTS. THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE, WHICH IS FOR 15 POINTS, AND THEN THE PRICE WHICH WAS FOR 60 POINTS. AND THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE EVALUATION OF THOSE OF THOSE PROPOSALS AND HOW THE SCORING WORKED OUT. AND THEN SMITH CONTRACTORS WAS THE HIGHEST RANKED FIRM OUT OF ALL THOSE FIRMS. SO THE COST SUMMARY COMPARISON TOTAL COST IS 9,000,028 $28,293, WITH 88. 2 MILLION BASICALLY FOR THE PROJECT, AND THEN ABOUT 827 820,753 FOR CONTINGENCY. THE PROGRAM ESTIMATE WAS 11.5 MILLION. SO WE WERE ABOUT 2.5 MILLION BELOW PROGRAM ESTIMATE FOR THIS PROJECT. SO AGAIN, AS WE HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT CAME IN BELOW ESTIMATE, WHICH IS A IS A POSITIVE SIGN FOR US, NOT FOR JUST THIS PROJECT, BUT FOR THE THE PROGRAM OVERALL. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS COUNCIL APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH SMITH CONTRACTING FOR THE WINDY HILL ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,207,539.12, WHICH INCLUDES A 10% CONTINGENCY OF $820,753.91, FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $9,028,293.03. BASED ON THE RFP AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, DOES THIS INCLUDE ANY. CONTINGENCIES FOR PERFORMANCE IF THEY BRING IN THE THE PROJECT LIKE AHEAD

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COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY. MOST OF US HAVE TALKED TO MR. PHILLIPS AT THIS POINT, IF NOT ALL OF US, AND I THINK WE WANT TO BE ACCOMMODATING AND FAIR TO HIM, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN ROAD PROJECTS BECAUSE WE OWE A LOT TO THE PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE TO BE ABLE TO, TO GET ACCESS TO TO 35 AND TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TRAFFIC RELATIVELY QUICKLY. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE POSSIBILITY FOR A CHANGE ORDER. IF WE CAN MAKE A TURN SAFELY INTO HIS PROPERTY. I DON'T QUITE GET THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MOTION BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED, AND INCLUDE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN OUR STAFF AND TEX BEST BEFORE. THEY PROCEED. I THINK THEY JUST WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH US, THE STAFF, AND HAVE A CONVERSATION REGARDING THE RACE MEDIAN THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEIR BUSINESS. IT'S ALSO GOING TO AFFECT EVERY BUSINESS THAT GOES OVER THERE. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. AND SO COULD YOU WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO AMEND TO SAY TO INCLUDE A REQUIRED DISCUSSION WITH TEXT. BEST. SURE. I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE APPROVING THE AGENDA ITEM WITH THE POTENTIAL. CHANGE ORDER AFTER A CONVERSATION AND A AND A SIT DOWN MEETING WITH TEXAS BEST AND THEIR PEOPLE AND OUR PEOPLE, AND AN AGREEABLE, SAFE ALTERNATIVE IS PRESENTED. AND SECOND. OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY, IF I COULD JUST OFFER WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST IS CERTAINLY WE COULD MEET, AS YOU REQUESTED, MEET WITH THE OWNERS AND THEIR ENGINEERS TO TALK AND THEN BRING YOU BACK HERE IN THIS AGENDA. WE'D COME BACK IN A COUNCIL MEETING AND PRESENT YOU SOME OPTIONS AND GET DIRECTION, AND IF NECESSARY, THEN THERE WOULD BE A CHANGE ORDER. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S KIND OF CLEAR FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, IF THAT WOULD. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, WE COULD CERTAINLY HAVE THE MEETING BUT THEN COME BACK AND ANY OPTIONS WOULD BE DECIDED HERE BY THE COUNCIL. YES. I WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT MEETING TO BE HAPPENING LIKE IN A COUNCIL MEETING, LIKE, NO, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU WANT COUNCIL TO MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOME OPTIONS. AND IF THERE IS ONE THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WHAT'S BEEN DESIGNED, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE THAT DECISION. BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT ALTERNATIVES ARE OUT THERE THAT CAN BE DONE SAFELY, THAT OUR ENGINEERS FEEL THAT THEY CAN DO SAFELY. BUT WE CAN BRING YOU SOME OPTIONS. THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M SUGGESTING. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, SECONDED BY MYSELF. DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MOTION IS? OKAY. SO IT'S A POSSIBLE CHANGE ORDER. BUT IT'S A MEETING WITH TEX BEST AND THEIR AND THEIR STAFF. SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES SEVEN ZERO. GET

[26) (First Reading) Consider approval of an ordinance regarding proposed amendments to a Planned Unit Development (Ord. 1028 and 1111) to revise the concept plan and zoning district boundaries of the Gregg Gardens subdivision. (Z-25-0141) Public Hearing The Planning and Zoning Commission will consider this item on February 10, 2026, after the posting of this Council agenda. ]

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THE GREEN IS THE SINGLE FAMILY R-1A. AND THEN THE BLUE IS THE R-1 THREE. AND I DO LIKE TO CALL OUT IF YOU NOTICE, THERE'S SOME KIND OF WONKY LITTLE FISHTAIL OUT THERE THAT KIND OF GOES FROM SOME LOTS INTO ANOTHER. THIS ZONING BOUNDARY WAS WAS DESIGNED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC SITE PLAN OR CONCEPT PLAN THAT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION. SO THAT'S WHY I CREATED SOME ISSUES IN THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF. SO THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD BE. IT WOULD CLEAN UP THOSE ZONING BOUNDARIES AND THEN KIND OF SHIFT ALL THE TOWNHOMES TO FRONT OR BACK UP ONTO GREG DRIVE, INSTEAD OF BEING ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT SMALL ALLEY THAT YOU SEE COME OFF. THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE CALLING NOAH ALLEY ON THE CURRENT PLAT. SO NOAH STREET GOES FROM CUL DE SAC TO CUL DE SAC, AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOAH ALLEY AFTER THAT. THAT CREATES IN ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION, CREATES ISSUES WITH FIRE ACCESS, ONE WAY THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THE DEVELOPER IS LOOKING TO KIND OF REDESIGN THE TOWNHOME SECTION, WIDEN THAT STREET TO MEET OUR STANDARD SPECS, HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATING ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC AND FIRE. AND THEN BASED ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY ARE LOSING SOME TOWNHOMES. SO THEY WILL COME BACK WITH A MORE SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCTS IN THAT AREA. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS ACREAGE OF SINGLE FAMILY R-1A IS GOING FROM 15 TO 18, THE R1 THREE IS GOING FROM 16 TO 13, AND THEN RESIDENTIAL R1 GOES FROM 5 TO 5.1. THE REASON YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF CHANGE IN THE ACREAGE IS THEY ARE PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER OF A TOWNHOME PRODUCT THAN THE ORIGINAL. SO EVEN THOUGH THE UNITS ARE GOING DOWN, THE ACREAGE IS KIND OF STAYING THE SAME, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE THE UNIT COUNT. SO EXISTING UNIT COUNT 85. IN R-1A THEY ARE GOING TO 96 SINGLE FAMILY R1 THREE. THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE. AND THEN THE TOWNHOMES ARE DROPPING FROM 52 TO 20. AND SO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TOWNHOMES AND THE NEED FOR THAT. AND THEN THE TOTALS ARE 210 TO 189. SO IT IS A SLIGHT DECREASE. AGAIN REMOVING SOME TOWNHOMES. THERE'S AN ATTACHED PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE I WOULDN'T CALL THEM TOWNHOMES PER SE, BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS TO KIND OF CLEAN UP THE STREET. IF YOU WERE TO DEVELOP THAT SUBDIVISION CURRENTLY UNDER WAY, IT'S CURRENTLY PLATTED, YOU WOULD HAVE INSTANCES WHERE IF I'M SITTING ON MY FRONT PORCH, I, INSTEAD OF THIS PERSON HAS A FRONT DOOR THAT'S FACING ME, BUT THIS PERSON MIGHT HAVE A BACKYARD THAT'S FACING ME AND A BACKYARD AND THEN A FRONT YARD. SO IT'S VERY DISJOINTED FROM A PLANNING PURPOSE. BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE ZONING WITHOUT KIND OF REDOING THE ZONING. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE GOT HERE. LET'S SEE. THEY ARE MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE OPEN SPACE. SO ON THE PLAN SOUTH, ALL THAT GREEN AREA, THERE WAS A LOT OF TOWNHOMES IN THERE. SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE AREA BUT IT WAS KIND OF OFFSET. SO THEY'RE CLEANING THAT UP.

THEY'RE GETTING RID OF SOME REAR LOADING ALLEY PRODUCTS ON THE WEST SIDE ON THIS PLAN.

THAT GOES AWAY AS WELL. SO THEY ARE LOOKING AT 3.16 TO 3.12 ACRES. BUT THEY'VE GOT A LITTLE ANOTHER POCKET PARK TO THE NORTH. AND THEN THESE WILL BE AMENITIZED. SO THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET SHOWS THIS. THERE MAY BE SOME MODIFICATIONS AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS. SO THIS PUTT IS IS CONCEPT ONLY IF WHEN THIS GOES TO GET BUILT THERE MAY BE

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SO IT WON'T AFFECT TRAFFIC GOING TO THE SCHOOL. BUT OVERALL PROPOSED CHANGES AGAIN IS GOING TO RESULT IN A SLIGHT DECREASE IN THAT DENSITY. SO WE'VE REVIEWED THE REQUEST. WE DO DETERMINE THIS TO BE APPROPRIATE. PROPOSED CHANGES ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN AT LEAST THE HOUSING MIX. WE ARE LOSING SOME OF THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT. AND THEN THE ADDITION OF OPEN SPACE WE DO THINK PROVIDES A BETTER PRODUCT FOR THOSE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY.

SO YOUR OPTIONS TONIGHT ARE APPROVE AS PRESENTED APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR RECOMMEND DENIAL. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED.

PLANNING AND ZONING REVIEWED THIS ON FEBRUARY 10TH AND THEY VOTED FIVE ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS WELL. SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, THE DEVELOPER IS HERE. IF YOU'D LIKE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE THE PROJECT ITSELF OR INSIDE ISSUES THAT THEY MAY HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS ITEM DOES HAVE A HEARING. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR HEARING SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER HARRIS I'M HAVING TROUBLE VISUALIZING THE TOWNHOMES THEY FACE GREG DRIVE. DO THEY HAVE A FRONT YARD ON GREG DRIVE. DO THEY HAVE PARKING ON GREG DRIVE? IS ALL THE PARKING AT THE BACK WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE STREET? YES. SO ALL OF THE PARKING IN THIS PROJECT. SORRY. LET ME GET TO A BETTER IMAGE. THE PARKING FOR THIS PROJECT ARE AT THIS POINT GOING TO BE REAR LOADED PROJECT PRODUCTS. SO THE FRONT I BELIEVE I HAVE NOT SEEN THE HOME PLANS, I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF COPIES, SO I'LL KIND OF DEFER TO THE DEVELOPER, BUT I BELIEVE THE IDEA IS KIND OF FRONT DOOR FACING GREG. BUT BACK GARAGE BACK LOADING OFF OF NOAH STREET IS AM I CORRECT ON THAT? SO THEY'RE NOT APARTMENTS.

SO DO THEY HAVE A YARD AT THE FRONT? AT THE BACK. WHAT. WHERE DO THEY HAVE SOME OUTDOOR SPACE? RIGHT. I MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE A SMALL YARD. THEY DO STILL HAVE SOME SETBACKS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET AS PART OF THE ZONING DISTRICT. I DON'T RECALL IF THAT IS 15 OR 25 AT THIS POINT. DO YOU WANT TO? I CAN'T REMEMBER FOR YOU. YEAH. I'M CONCERNED THAT IT'S NOT A TOO MANY HOUSE. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE 100, 210 HOUSES OR PROPERTIES, BUT THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF ALL TOGETHER AND VERY LITTLE GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN THEM. IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THIS PLAN, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIVABILITY AND THE DENSITY WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND I WANT I'D LIKE TO KNOW, DO THEY HAVE SIDEWALKS DOWN BOTH SIDES OF THE STREETS? YES, MA'AM. SO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN. THERE WILL BE A MODIFICATION ON THIS ALLEY AGAIN THAT RIGHT NOW IS DESIGNED FOR AN ALLEY. IT'S 20FT OF PAVEMENT. I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THERE'S RIBBON CURB ON THAT AREA. SO THAT WILL HAVE TO TO BE WIDENED UP. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER TIBBETTS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES. SO WHICH SCHOOL IS IT? NEARBY AGAIN? I'M SORRY. WALLACE. OKAY. YES, SIR.

SO ON THIS PLAN, GREG, DRIVE WOULD BE ON YOUR RIGHT. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SCREEN.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE FROM 52 DOWN TO 20. I THOUGHT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS TRY TO INCREASE THE TOWNHOMES THERE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. I WAS NOT AROUND FOR THE FIRST KIND OF NEGOTIATIONS. I DON'T RECALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE INCREASED THE TOWNHOMES. THE MOST RECENT THERE WAS A COUNCILMAN, A MAYOR PRO TEM HEIZER WAS ON. YES, THAT WAS A PROJECT SAHARA. OKAY. SO THERE WAS THERE WE ALSO DID HAVE SOME TOWNHOMES THAT WERE ADDED TO PROJECT TWO STEP. OKAY. SO THIS WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN TOWNHOMES. BUT YOU'RE ALSO WIDENING THE STREET BY HOW MANY FEET. BECAUSE I KNOW I THINK OUR STANDARDS WHAT 2726 27FT FROM CURB TO CURB. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE THE FULL DESIGN PLANS YET ON THAT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET OUR MINIMUM. SO OUR

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SO IT'S KIND OF A GIVE AND TAKE KIND OF SCENARIO ON THAT ON THAT END. SO OKAY HELPS ME UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY. YES. DO WE HAVE LIKE APPROXIMATE RETAIL COSTS OF WHAT THESE WHAT THE R1 THREE IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THE R1 IS GOING TO BE. AND THEN THE R1T'S, I CAN GIVE YOU A BALLPARK I'M NOT LOOKING FOR DOWN TO THE DOLLAR ROUNDABOUT NUMBER. WHAT I EXPECT THESE TO BE I THINK THE THE 50 FOOT PRODUCT, GIVEN WHERE WE'RE AT, IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE IN THE 400 RANGE. THE R1, A PRODUCT WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE 320 ISH AND THEN THE ALLEY LOADED. CORRECT. AND THEN THE THE TOWNHOMES I WOULD THINK IS GOING TO BE ON PAR WITH WHAT'S GOING ON AT WATERSTONE. 220 TO 230 RANGE ROUGHLY. I KNOW ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WAS INVENTORY DIVERSITY. AND ESPECIALLY FOR THAT ENTRY LEVEL MARKET, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO TRANSITION OUT OF AN APARTMENT INTO SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN BUILD EQUITY IN, SOMETHING THEY CAN OWN. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M I'M LOOKING AT 32 FAMILIES WHO DON'T GET TO MAKE THAT LEAP. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO, TO BITE OFF ON. I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FROM, BUT WE WORK WITH STAFF PRETTY DILIGENTLY ON THIS, AND WE CAME UP WITH THIS DESIGN. WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE THE BEST THING TO MOVE FORWARD, TO TRY TO MAKE THIS WORK. GIVEN THE FACT THAT ALL THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY IN PLACE. RIGHT? WE INHERITED THIS FROM FROM LANDSTEDE WHEN WE ACQUIRED THEM. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. YEAH. WHAT DO WE DO WHERE THEY HAD EIGHT TOWNHOMES WHERE YOU SEE THAT'S NOW GOING TO BE A POCKET PARK AND PART OF THE AMENITY THAT PEOPLE COULDN'T EVEN GET TO THE GARAGE ON LIKE IT WAS TOWNHOMES. AND I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT OTHER DID NOT WORK. SO THIS YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THERE THAT THEY HAD DESIGN STUFF THAT COMPLETELY JUST WOULDN'T EVEN WORK. FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU GUYS WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL SOME OF THE APARTMENTS? THERE'S NO APARTMENTS. THESE ARE ALL THERE'S NO APARTMENTS. WHAT ARE THE LITTLE ONES IN THE MIDDLE? ARE THESE JUST HOMES? NO, THOSE ARE R-1A THOSE ARE GARDEN STYLE HOMES. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE. SO THEY'LL END UP BEING ZERO LOT LINE. THAT'S THE LOW 300 PRICE POINT. SO WE ADDED MORE R-1A TO HIT THAT DIVERSITY. WE WANTED TO ADD MORE R-1A HOMES RIGHT BEFORE WE HAD MORE OF THE TOWNHOMES. SO WE WEREN'T GOING TO SAY, HEY, LET'S TRY TO GO AND CRAM AS MANY MORE R-1 THREE, WHICH IS THE LARGER PRODUCT, LET'S GO GIVE SOMETHING BACK.

AND THAT R-1A WOULD KIND OF GIVE THAT GIVE AND TAKE. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE LOOKED AT IT. WOULD YOU BE FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED? I'M JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS, THIS MAP HERE ON THE SCREEN. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME THING, WE ARE KIND OF WHERE THAT ALLEY IS ON THE BACKSIDE BEHIND THE THE TOWNHOMES, THAT 46 THROUGH 52, WHICH I BELIEVE IS R-1 THREE.

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WATERSTONE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROJECT, THEY ARE SELLING LESS THAN 0.75 A MONTH.

SO THAT'S NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT 32 MONTHS OF INVENTORY. AND THAT'S A PROBLEM ESPECIALLY FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS SIZE. WHAT THAT STATES IS THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH DRIVE GOING THERE. THEY'VE HAD TO REDUCE PRICE SIGNIFICANTLY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WATERSTONE, BUT YOU SEE THOSE PRICES JUST DROP AND DROP AND DROP AND THEY STILL CAN'T TURN THEM OVER. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE JUST LIKE, HEY, LET'S DO SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WE CAN HIT AND WE KNOW WE CAN DO. AND THAT'S THE THE PROJECT WE CAME UP WITH. SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. WELL, MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE WHAT TYPE OF AMENITIES ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO PROVIDE THAT I MEAN I SEE I KIND OF SEE THEM, BUT I WANT TO KNOW, I WANT TO LIKE ALSO I WANT TO SAY THAT THERE IS A PARK RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET TO POOL, RIGHT? YEAH, RIGHT. BUT HERE'S THE DEAL. I DON'T WANT MY FIVE YEAR OLD WALKING ACROSS THE STREET. SO FOR THIS TIGHT KNIT NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE. I SEE THAT YOU HAVE A POCKET PARK AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE PARK OVER HERE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ONE AREA. AND WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO GO TO GREAT CLARK PARK OR AT WALLACE IS PROBABLY OFF LIMITS. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SOME AMENITIES WHICH WOULD ALSO HELP SELL THESE THESE HOUSES. YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS LARGELY WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING HERE IS SOME SORT OF PLAYGROUND, SOME SORT OF ACTIVE SPACE, ACTIVE ADULT SPACE, BUT KIND OF SEPARATE THEM. RIGHT. SO THE IDEA WAS THAT LITTLE SPOT WHERE WE HAD THOSE TOWNHOMES THAT YOU COULDN'T GET BACK INTO THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE KID CENTRIC.

AND THEN THE SPACE THAT'S JUST NORTH OF THE TOWNHOMES RIGHT THERE, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MORE ADULT ACTIVE TYPE STUFF, GATHERING SPACES. SO WE DEFINITELY DID PLAN ON ACTIVATING THIS. THAT WAS THE WHOLE PLAN WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS. SO WHAT ACTIVITIES WOULD YOU GUYS ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO HAVE FOR THE ADULTS? WE HAVEN'T GONE INTO ALL THAT PROGRAMING YET. I DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THAT CHARRETTE, BUT IT WOULD BE STUFF LIKE POSSIBLY BOCCE BALL, JUST OUTDOOR GATHERING, HANGOUT SPACES. WOULD WE DO SOME SORT OF BARBECUE SPACES? SURE. THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA. WE LOOKED AT MAYBE DOING SOME SORT OF TRAIL CONNECTIVITY AND DOING, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IT'S AGAIN, IT'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SPACE, BUT SOME SORT OF OUTDOOR WORKOUT TYPE CONNECTING COURT. BUT AGAIN, IT IS A VERY SMALL CONSTRAINED SPACE. SO WE'RE WORKING ON WHAT WE CAN PASS THIS AREA FIVE DAYS A WEEK. SO I KNOW EXACTLY I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE CONSTRAINT IS. AND I JUST WANT IF FOR SOME REASON THIS DOESN'T PASS, THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS AREA? WELL, RIGHT NOW THAT AREA DOESN'T REALLY EXIST AS MUCH BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S. THE OLD CONFIGURATION IF YOU WANT TO PULL THAT UP. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.

IT'LL BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THERE'S TOWNHOMES THERE. IF IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED THERE'S TOWNHOMES THERE NOW. SO IT'S IT'S RECONFIGURED DIFFERENTLY. SO YEAH I THINK BARRING ANY IS TO SAY THIS WOULD BE RECOMMENDED OR APPROVED FOR DENIAL TONIGHT. MOVING FORWARD THE PLAT IS IS RECORDED. IT'S CONSTRUCTED. TAPS ARE IN. SO THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH YOU KNOW THERE'S POSSIBLY THEY COULD MAKE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS VIA A REPLAT AND KIND OF PLAY WITH SOME OF THE UNITS WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS. SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY IT COULD CHANGE A LITTLE BIT, BUT MOST LIKELY TO DEVELOPER WOULD EITHER MOVE FORWARD OR HAVE OTHER CONVERSATIONS. I DON'T LIKE THAT. THESE ARE MY ONLY TWO OPTIONS. YEAH, YEAH, I'M KIND OF HESITANT. I WANT THERE TO BE SOMETHING THERE BECAUSE AS I SEE, THERE'S SIDEWALKS THAT WE CAN'T USE AND THERE'S WATER METERS OUT THERE AND IT'S ALREADY FOR ME. I THINK IT'S EASIER AS WELL. AND I THINK I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE TO SEE A WHOLE BIG PICTURE AND LIKE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, I KIND OF GET IT'S OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS, BUT HAVING A FULL SCALE OF LIKE WHERE IT IS THE GREAT CLARK PARK, WHERE IT IS TO THE BANK, WHERE IT IS TO THE STREETS AND ALL THAT. THAT TO ME IS A LOT EASIER TO TO DIGEST.

AND I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE JUST SAYING YES. WHEN WE JUST SEE THESE COLORED PICTURES. IT SAYS WALLACE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TOO, RIGHT? YEAH. LIKE WHERE ARE WE? YEAH.

THERE'S WALLACE. YEAH. THERE'S GREEN IS GREG CLARK. PARK FIVE. AND WHERE IS THE BANK IN THIS?

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SO I THINK JUST AS YOU ALL KIND OF GO DOWN THIS CONVERSATION, JUST ONE THING TO POINT OUT IS I THINK THE YOU AND THE DEVELOPER CAN CAN HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. I JUST WANT TO CAUTION ON WHERE THE CHANGES ARE MADE BECAUSE OF HOW WE DID OUR OUR NOTICE. SO BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, WE PICK THOSE KIND OF BOUNDARIES. SO YOU CAN APPROVE A A MORE RESTRICTIVE ZONING. YOU JUST CAN'T GO LESS RESTRICTIVE. SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T KIND OF VIOLATE THAT I THINK YOU'RE KIND OF FREE TO TO TO PICK AND CHOOSE AROUND THERE. I GUESS, SINCE THE CONVERSATION WAS KIND OF HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION. AND Y'ALL THOUGHT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH END WITH THE POCKET PARK, WOULD YOU ALL BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, LIKE BY BY CUTTING DOWN LIKE 1 OR 2, TALKING ABOUT THAT LITTLE GREEN SPACE? YEAH. NORTH. IT'S ACTUALLY A DRAINAGE AREA. SO WE CAN'T THERE'S NO WINNING IN THIS. I'M SORRY. AGAIN ALL THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ALREADY PUT IN. WE WOULD HAVE LAID THIS OUT VERY DIFFERENTLY I THINK FROM OUR PLANNING STANDPOINT. ARE THERE NO DETENTION PONDS NOT REQUIRED HERE. THERE THERE ARE TWO TWO. AND WERE THEY AT. YEAH. SO THE THE SMALL POCKET PARK, POCKET PARK IN THE NORTH IS DETENTION FEATURE. AND THEN IN THE PLAN SOUTHEAST THE BIG OPEN SPACE IS A IS A DETENTION FEATURE AS WELL. WHICH IS THEY'RE BOTH ALREADY THERE AND BUILT SO. OKAY. AND SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO SAY NO WE'D END UP WITH THE WORSE OPTION OKAY. OKAY. WELL I APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR TRYING. YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD TO TO TRY AND GET HERE AND CLAW BACK FROM ONCE INFRASTRUCTURE'S IN THE GROUND LIKE THAT. IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY MAYOR YVONNE FLORES KALE AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NO, IT'S ONE ALL RIGHT. JUST THIS WAS A HARD VOTE. BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING BACK WITH SOMETHING BETTER. LESS HOMES. IT'S NOT NOT WE DID

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[27) Consider designating a City of Kyle representative to serve on the Hays County Mental Health Coordinating Committee.]

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SO SOME GENERAL CRITERIA FOR NAMING. IT'S GOT TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S REPUTATION. WE WANT TO ALSO REFLECT ADJACENT GEOGRAPHICAL OR HISTORICAL OR OR CULTURAL ASSETS WITHIN THE CITY. FOR INSTANCE, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, NEAR A CREEK OR WITHIN A CERTAIN SUBDIVISION.

WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE WE HONOR INDIVIDUALS OR ENTITIES THAT HAVE A LASTING CONTRIBUTION, THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN PROPERLY VETTED. THERE'S NOTHING CONTROVERSIAL. WE ALSO WANT TO AVOID NAMING AFTER LIVING PERSONS EXCEPT IN SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES. REASON BEING, YOU CAN'T CONTROL WHAT A PERSON MAY OR MAY NOT DO AFTER A AN ASSET HAS BEEN NAMED AFTER THEM.

BENEFACTOR NAMING. SO THIS IS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, MORE OF A MONETARY CONTRIBUTION. AND SO IF SOMEBODY WERE TO DEED SOME LAND THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY THE CITY, THERE MIGHT BE A CONSIDERATION THERE. OR IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR A PERCENTAGE OF THE ASSET. SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE COULD BE IF THEY'RE FUNDING 80% OF A NEW BUILDING, THAT MIGHT BE FOR CONSIDERATION. I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE TYPES OF AGENCIES OR INSTITUTIONS THAT THAT THAT MIGHT MAKE THAT KIND OF A CONTRIBUTION LATER, BUT SAME WITH PROMINENT COMPONENTS. IT COULD BE AN ENDOWMENT IF THEY GIVE SOME KIND OF A CORPUS OF A BODY, AND THE ENDOWMENT IS TO SUSTAIN THE MAINTENANCE OVER THE LIFE OF THE ASSET, THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERATION. ALSO, WE WANT TO BUILD SOME GUARDRAILS IN, EVEN ON THE LESSER PROMINENT ASSETS THAT MAYBE THAT IT DOESN'T. WE KEEP $50,000 AS A MINIMUM FOR HONORIFIC NAMING. AGAIN, THIS

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AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST PLACEHOLDERS. ALSO, IF THERE'S A NEW BUILDING THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND THERE'S BEEN NO NAME THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT FORTH BY BENEFACTOR OR BY A COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROCESS, THAT COUNCIL WOULD RECOMMEND A NAME AND THAT YOU COULD USE ANY NUMBER OF CREATIVE PROCESS FOR THAT, INCLUDING NOMINATIONS OR CONTESTS. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL HAD A LOT OF LATITUDE WITHIN THIS POLICY TO TO BRING THINGS FORWARD. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE ARE SOME RESTRICTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO GEOGRAPHIC NAMING. FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE ARE SOME CREEKS OR TRIBUTARIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN NAMED IN OUR CITY BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY ADOPT THE NAME, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE US BOARD ON GEOGRAPHIC NAMES.

ONCE THE US BOARD ON GEOGRAPHIC NAMES SAYS YOU'RE IN THE CLEAR FOR THIS ASSET, THEN IT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS LAID OUT IN THE POLICY. AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK FROM THIS BODY. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FEEDBACK.

ONE I THINK WE'RE REALLY TIRED PRESENTATION I MEAN YEAH YEAH. THINGS I'D NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT.

RIGHT. SO I DO APPRECIATE ALL THIS INFORMATION NAMING THE WASTEWATER BULKHEAD AFTER ANY OF US ANYTIME SOON. NO I, I APPRECIATE IT. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I, WE KIND OF JUST PUT OUT TO THE RESIDENTS AND SEE, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY. NOT IN A FORMAL THING, JUST INFORMAL, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE GET FEEDBACK AND WHAT THEY THINK THIS WAS GOOD FOR US TO SEE. BUT THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION, RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY FEEDBACK. YEAH.

IF WE'RE IF YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE PERCENTAGES OF LIKE DONATIONS OR ASSETS LIKE, LIKE YOU SEE HERE, WILL YOU GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES? I THINK SURE. I OH, SIGNATURES FOR SIGNATURES. OKAY. HERE WE GO.

YEAH. BECAUSE A THOUSAND THAT'S A LOT. THAT'S A LOT. I MEAN WE DIDN'T WE DON'T GET THAT. I THINK IF YOU I THINK IT SHOULD BE MUCH LOWER NUMBERS FOR LIKE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE, 300 PEOPLE DON'T EVEN SHOW UP FOR THEIR HOA MEETINGS. SO MAYBE HALF OF THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL THOSE SMALLER NUMBERS JUST BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF KYLE, WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH ACTION FROM THE RESIDENTS. 1000, I THINK, WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY HARD TO GET. SO MAYBE MAKE IT 500, RENAMING SOMETHING LIKE RENAMING CITY HALL OR RENAMING A PARK. I MEAN, YEAH, LIKE EVEN 500 IS A LOT, BUT IS IT IS IT A LOT? THAT'S REASONABLE. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. IT WOULD STILL NOT BE REQUIRED THAT YOU NAME IT.

SO IF WE GET 500 SIGNATURES THAT WANT TO NAME THIS PLACE OSCAR MEYER CITY HALL, WE STILL

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RIGHT. AND I THINK GETTING 500 NAMES IS KIND OF A BIG DEAL. I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE TO GO AROUND AND KNOCK ON DOORS. AND SO AGAIN, I, I THINK A THOUSAND IS WAY TOO HIGH. CAN YOU GET 500 PEOPLE TO VOTE. NO. SO YOU JUST CUT ALL THOSE NUMBERS IN HALF THEN. YEAH. CAN WE CUT THOSE NUMBERS IN HALF? I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALISTIC. RIGHT. AND THEN IF WE SEE THAT THERE'S JUST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEM, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE CAN UP THE NUMBERS AS WE GO ALONG.

SO SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU TO ACTUALLY HAVE YOU ADOPT THE NAMING POLICY. AND IF YOU'RE THE DIRECTION IS TO TAKE THESE NUMBERS AND JUST HAVE THEM, WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE, IN THE POLICY, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. BUT THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS EVENING IS WHAT CHANGES DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IF ANY. THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I SAW THAT I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT, I THINK SO, I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD AND FINISH. SORRY. OH, NO. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO FOR 1000 AND MAKE IT 500 ACROSS ON THE, ON THE PARKS AND THEN ALSO 500 FOR THE CIVIC PARKS. NO, I WOULD JUST TAKE ALL THOSE NUMBERS AND CUT THEM IN HALF BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE I MEAN 150 PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WOULD BE PRETTY. THAT'D BE AWESOME. I MEAN, YEAH, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT CONTROVERSIAL ONE THAT I WAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF FROM DAY ONE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT WE WE HAVE SOMETHING IN POLICY MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT WAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE SENIORS ABOUT A SPECIFIC BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T OWN THE ENTIRE BUILDING ITSELF. SO THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE ANOTHER TENANT THAT'S THAT OWNS ANOTHER PERCENTAGE OF IT. SO I'M JUST GLAD THAT WE GOT SOMETHING IN PLACE. AND. AND WE CAN JUST GO WITH WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS. AND I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF FEEDBACK. I THINK THE ONLINE PORTION OF LIKE WHENEVER WE DID THE STREETS WITH THE PASTRANO THAT HELPED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE GOT MORE FEEDBACK THAT WAY AND WE PROMOTED IT. SO WE GAVE MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. I KNOW WE GOT NEW ROADS THAT ARE COMING, SO I'M GLAD WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S ONE ROAD THAT I'M MAYBE CONSIDERING I JUST THOUGHT OF, BUT I'D HAVE TO GET WITH THAT FAMILY FIRST. BUT BUT AS WE GET THESE ROADS DONE, WE GET NEW ONES BEING BUILT. YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD WE GOT SOMETHING IN POLICY TO WHERE WHEN WE START LOOKING AT STREETS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO FROM THERE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA. DO WE HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OF WHERE INSTEAD OF SETTING LIKE A HARD NUMBER OF SIGNATURES, IT'S LIKE PERCENTAGE BASED LIKE BASED ON LIKE THE FOR EXAMPLE, FOR LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK RENAMING, INSTEAD OF SAYING, OH, YOU HAVE TO GET 150 NO MATTER THE SIZE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, COULD WE HAVE IT SO WHERE IT'S PROPORTIONATE LIKE A PERCENTAGE? YES, EXACTLY. JUST SO THAT WAY IT, IT I THINK WOULD BE MORE FAIR BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF 200 PEOPLE AND THEY WANT TO RENAME THEIR PARK AND THEY HAVE TO GET 150 SIGNATURES, BUT THEN YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF 550 PEOPLE, AND THEY ONLY HAVE TO GET 150 SIGNATURES. THAT'S A LARGE DIFFERENCE IN THAT PROPORTION. SO COULD WE DO PERCENTAGE BASED? WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT THAT WAY. WE COULD DO WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WISHES. WHEN I THINK IT'S MORE BASED ON IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF KYLE, THAT YOU COULD SIGN A PETITION BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME PARKS THAT ARE NEIGHBORHOOD CLASSIFICATION, BUT THEY SAY STEEPLECHASE PARK OR OR MIGHT FIT IN THAT CLASSIFICATION, BUT YOU HAVE IT SERVICING A FEW NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO IT JUST KIND OF WAS MORE INCLUSIVE BY A NUMBER. OKAY. SO IF WE LOWER THIS THRESHOLD, LIKE IT'S NOT FOR THAT SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD TO GATHER, IT'S FOR LIKE, OKAY, IT'S FOR LIKE THE ENTIRE YOU MIGHT START BY LIKE THIS INITIATIVE THROUGH THE SURROUNDING HOAS. BUT IF THEY SAID, HEY, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE SIGNATURE SUPPORT, THEY COULD REACH OUT TO OTHER RESIDENTS WITHIN THE CITY WHO ALSO USE THE PARK. THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT PARKS AND REC, ESPECIALLY AS WE BUILD OUT THE THE VIBE SYSTEM, YOU GOT A LOT MORE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND PEOPLE BENEFITING FROM THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY, I THINK I WORRY ABOUT CUTTING IT DOWN SO MUCH ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE CONSISTENTLY GROWING. AND SO LIKE THE THE POPULATION PROPORTION THAT WILL THEN DETERMINE THE NAMES OF THESE PLACES. BECAUSE ALSO WHAT IS THE POLICY TO LIKE UNDO IT FOR EXAMPLE. RIGHT. LIKE IN CASE IT GOES SOUTH LIKE I'M THINKING OF, I PULLED UP AND I HAD TO GOOGLE WEIRD SPIDER DRAWING THING ONE VOTE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, BUT IN ULSTER COUNTY, NEW YORK, THERE WAS A COMPETITION FOR AN I VOTED STICKER THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO PUT OUT, AND IT ENDED

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AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING HIGHER STANDARDS IN PROPORTION TO WHERE OUR POPULATION IS EXPECTED TO GROW. AND SO, I MEAN, I THINK THE REQUIRED SIGNATURES SEEM FAIR BECAUSE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, EXPAND CITY HALL OR TEAR THIS PLACE DOWN AND REBUILD IT OR WHATNOT, IT SHOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO PICK A NAME FOR IT.

LIKE THERE HAS TO BE AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED WHO WANT TO NAME IT A CERTAIN THING. I THINK I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ADDED TO WHERE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE YOU SAID. AND THEN I ALSO THINK WE'RE GETTING A BIT LULU UP HERE BECAUSE WE KIND OF CHUCKLED AT THIS, BUT AT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO UNDO SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE LIKE IF WE NAMED LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AFTER SOMEONE AND THEY'RE STILL ALIVE, AND THEN THEY DO SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY CRAZY AND WE'RE LIKE, OH, ACTUALLY, WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO THAT ANYMORE. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN WORK THAT INTO THIS POLICY AS WELL? YEAH, THE THE HEAVIEST RESTRICTION, I GUESS, FROM THE PROPOSED POLICY WOULD BE TO TO NOT NAME AFTER SOMEONE WHO'S STILL LIVING UNLESS UNDER SOME RARE CIRCUMSTANCE. AND WE WOULD TRY TO BUILD UP SOME BUFFERS TO PREVENT THAT IN THE POLICY OR DISCOURAGE IT. IF YOU ALL FEEL THAT IS SUFFICIENT, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. WELL, TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS, I THINK ONE, ONE OF THE POLICIES IS NOT TO NAME SOMETHING AFTER SOMEBODY WHO'S ALIVE. AND THEN TWO, JUST BECAUSE YOU COLLECT THE SIGNATURES DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE NAME RIGHT. IT'S

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