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EVENING.[I) Call Meeting to Order, Roll Call, and Excuse Absences]
JULY 7TH.I'D LIKE TO, UH, WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? FLORES KALE? HERE.
IF, UH, I COULD PLEASE HAVE YOU STAND FOR THE PLEDGE.
ADINA, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS MOVE, LIBERTY TO JUSTICE.
[II) Approval of Minutes]
UM, APPROVAL OF MINUTES.MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING FROM JUNE 13TH, JUNE THE 16TH, AND ALSO THE REGULAR MINUTES FOR THAT SAME MEETING FOR THE 16TH AS WELL.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PROAM TOBIAS, AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY.
[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
COMMENTS.THE CITIZEN, THE CITY COUNCIL, WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK OR ENCOURAGED TO SIGN IN BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
SPEAKERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD AT ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS, AND WE ASK THAT YOU OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
UP FIRST I HAVE ROBERT HUNTER, AND IF I'M CORRECT, ROBERT, YOU'RE GONNA, UH, RUSSELL'S GOING TO GIVE YOU HIS TIME.
YOU HAVE SIX? HE HAS SIX MINUTES.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ROBERT HUNTER AND I AM HERE TONIGHT IN STRONG SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18, AND THE REAFFIRMATION THAT KYLE VISTA PARK SHALL REMAIN DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY TO PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.
I AM ALSO SUBMITTING INTO THE RECORD AN ONLINE PETITION MATERIALS, INCLUDING 114 SIGNATURES SUPPORTING THE RELOCATION OF BOTH THE HAYES COUNTY EASTSIDE CAMPUS, AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY TO A MORE APPROPRIATE SETTING FOR THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES.
I WANT TO BEGIN BY MAKING SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.
I SUPPORT AN ANIMAL CARE FACILITY.
THE DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO CARE FOR ABANDONED AND NEGLECTED ANIMALS DESERVE MODERN FACILITIES AND RESOURCES NECESSARY TO DO THEIR WORK.
BUT SUPPORTING AN ANIMAL SHELTER DOES NOT MEAN SUPPORTING AN ANIMAL SHELTER AT ANY LOCATION.
I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH ANY SUGGESTION THAT PRESERVING KYLE VISTA PARK MEANS ABANDONING ANIMAL WELFARE.
KYLE DESERVES BOTH AN OUTSTANDING ANIMAL FACILITY AND PROTECTED PUBLIC PARKS.
WE SHOULD NOT ASK ONE PUBLIC GOOD TO CONSUME ANOTHER.
ANIMAL CARE FACILITIES BELONG IN LOCATIONS INTENDED FOR INSTITUTIONAL, GOVERNMENTAL, COMMERCIAL, OR SIMILAR USES WITH APPROPRIATE TRAFFIC ACCESS, UTILITIES ROOM FOR EXPANSION AND ADEQUATE BUFFERS FOR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE PLACED IN THE MIDDLE OF ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES ADJACENT TO HOMES, SCHOOLS, AND LAND THAT RESIDENTS WERE PROMISED WOULD REMAIN RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE PROTECTING KYLE VISTA PARK IS NOT ANTI ANIMAL.
IT IS PRO NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT IS PRO-PUBLIC TRUST.
THE HISTORICAL RECORD MATTERS AND SO DOES THE LEGAL STATUS OF THIS LAND.
THE PLATS DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS, AGREEMENTS DATING BACK TO 2006 CONSISTENTLY IDENTIFIED THIS LAND AS PARKLAND FAMILIES PURCHASED HOMES AND MADE LIFE DECISIONS BASED ON THOSE REPRESENTATIONS.
THE EXPECTATION WAS SIMPLE AND CLEAR.
THIS LAND WOULD SERVE THE PEOPLE OF KYLE AS A PARK.
THE CITY'S OWN PAST ACTIONS REINFORCE THAT IN 2015, EVEN UTILITY LINES RUNNING THROUGH KYLE VISTA PARK WERE TREATED AS NON-PAR USE REQUIRING CHAPTER 26 REVIEW.
IF UTILITY LINES REQUIRE THAT LEVEL OF PARKLAND PROTECTION THAN SURELY AN ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY COUNTY FACILITY, WHERE ANY NON-PAR USE DESERVES EVEN GREATER SCRUTINY.
TEXAS LAW TREATS PUBLIC PARKLAND DIFFERENTLY FROM ORDINARY CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
CHAPTER 26 EXISTS BECAUSE PUBLIC PARKLAND IS UNIQUE.
BEFORE PUBLIC PARK LAND IS USED OR TAKEN FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE, THE GOVERNMENT MUST ADDRESS WHETHER THERE IS A FEASIBLE AND
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PRUDENT ALTERNATIVE, AND WHETHER ALL REASONABLE PLANNING AND HAS BEEN DONE TO MINIMIZE HARM TO THE PARK.THAT IS NOT A TECHNICALITY, THAT IS A SAFEGUARD.
THE CITY SHOULD NOT TREAT KYLE VISTA PARK AS FLEXIBLE SURPLUS LAND.
IT HAS BEEN ACQUIRED, HELD, CLAIMED, PLANNED AND PRESENTED AS PARK LAND FOR YEARS.
AND IF ANYONE BELIEVES THIS LAND CAN LEGALLY OR MORALLY BE CONVERTED TO A NON-PAR USE, THEN THE BURDEN SHALL BE ON THEM TO PROVE THAT AUTHORITY, NOT ON RESIDENTS, TO KEEP PROVING THAT A PARK IS A PARK.
THE PETITION COMMENTS SHOW THAT RESIDENTS STILL UNDERSTAND THIS LAND.
THAT WAY THEY RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL, TRAFFIC NEAR SCIENCE HALL ELEMENTARY AND CHAPPA MIDDLE SCHOOL NOISE, PROPERTY VALUES, NEIGHBORHOOD CHA CHARACTER, AND THE LOSS OF PROMISE PARKLAND.
THEY COME FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITH THE IMPACT.
THE BURDEN SHOULD NEVER BE ON RESIDENTS TO PROVE WHY A PARK SHOULD REMAIN A PARK, THE BURDEN SHOULD BE ON THE GOVERNMENT TO EXPLAIN WHY IT SHOULD CEASE TO BE ONE.
TONIGHT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REAFFIRM A PROMISE THAT WAS MADE YEARS AGO.
YOU CAN TELL CURRENT RESIDENTS AND FUTURE GENERATIONS THAT WHEN GOVERNMENT DESIGNATES LAND AS PARKLAND, THAT COMMITMENT MEANS SOMETHING.
YOU CAN SUPPORT ANIMAL WELFARE WHILE ALSO PRESERVING PUBLIC GREEN SPACE.
THESE GOALS ARE NOT IN CONFLICT.
I RESPECTFULLY ADD, ASK THIS COUNSEL TO SUPPORT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18, REPEAL RESOLUTION 1909 AND PERMANENTLY DEDICATE KYLE VISTA PARK EXCLUSIVELY TO PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.
PLEASE DO NOT STOP AT A STATEMENT OF INTENT.
MAKE THIS A PROTECTION, LEGAL, CLEAR, ENFORCEABLE, RECORDED AND LASTING DIRECT STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO IDENTIFY EVERY DEED PLAT DEDICATION, DOCUMENT TITLE, RECORD, LEGAL DESCRIPTION, RESTRICTION, AND PRIOR PARK LAND ACTION TIED TO KYLE VISTA PARK.
AND THEN USE EVERY AVE AVAIL AVAILABLE LEGAL TOOL TO PROTECT IT.
KYLE VISTA PARK SHOULD NOT BE HELD IN LIMBO FOR THE NEXT FUTURE PROJECT.
THE NEXT FUTURE COUNSEL, OR THE NEXT CONVENIENT IDEA, KYLE VISTA PARK IS NOT SURPLUS LAND.
KYLE VISTA PARK IS NOT A PLACEHOLDER.
KYLE VISTA PARK IS A PUBLIC PARKLAND.
PLEASE PROTECT IT ACCORDINGLY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, NEXT I HAVE MIKE MICHAEL WASH FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MICHAEL WALSH AND I'M A RESIDENT OF KYLE, TEXAS, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
REGARDING ITEM 19 ON THE AGENDA, I WANT TO CLEARLY STATE MY SUPPORT FOR THE USE OF MODERN ROUNDABOUTS AS A PRACTICAL, PROVEN, AND RESPONSIBLE TREATMENT.
PARDON ME, INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
THIS IS NOT SIMPLY A MATTER OF TRAFFIC DESIGN.
IT'S A MATTER OF REDUCING THE LIKELIHOOD OF SERIOUS INTERSEX INTER INJURIES AT INTERSECTIONS WHERE DRIVERS, PEDESTRIANS, AND BICYCLISTS ALL SHARE SPACE AS MY NEIGHBOR AND AUSTIN FIREMEN AND EMT.
FROM HIS EXPERIENCE WITH DEALING WITH ACCIDENTS, ROUNDABOUTS, AND NATURALLY SLOW VEHICLES BEFORE THEY ENTER THE INTERSECTION REQUIRE DRIVERS TO YIELD AND SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CONFLICT POINTS COMPARED WITH TRADITIONAL FOUR-WAY INTERSECTIONS.
THAT DIFFERENCE MATTERS IN A CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION.
A MISTAKE CAN RESULT IN A HIGH SPEED ANGLE OR T-BONE COLLISION WITH SEVERE CONSEQUENCES IN A ROUNDABOUT.
CRASHES THAT DO OCCUR ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE LOW, LOW SPEED GLANCING IMPACTS, WHICH GREATLY REDUCES THE RISK OF SERIOUS INJURY.
FOR THAT REASON, I BELIEVE MODERN ROUNDABOUTS ARE A SENSIBLE STEP TOWARD CALMER TRAFFIC, SAFER CROSSINGS, AND A ROADWAY SYSTEM THAT BETTER PROTECTS THE PEOPLE WHO USE IT EVERY DAY.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THIS SAFETY FOCUSED IMPROVEMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THAT'S MY, THAT WAS MY STATEMENT.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE RULES OF COUNSEL TO INCLUDE A THREE MINUTE LIMIT PERIOD.
I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, PASSING OFF TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO GET EXTRA TIME IS A GOOD USE OF TIME.
THIS WAS A WASTE OF TIME ON THAT, ON THAT COMMENT.
IN MY OPINION, HE COULD HAVE MADE THOSE POINTS IN A MUCH SHORTER TIME.
AS A REMINDER, ALL YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD BE MADE TO THE COUNCIL AND NOT DIRECTED TO THE AUDIENCE, AND
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SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
I'M A CITIZEN OF KYLE AS WELL AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
LAST WEEK, I FOUND OUT THAT MANY SPECIAL EVENTS WERE CUT OR GUTTED DURING A SPECIAL MEETING THAT I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND.
I KNOW THAT WE WERE WORKING TO FIX THE BUDGET BY I FIELD.
THE DECISIONS MADE WERE DONE HASTILY.
I SPOKE TO THE PARKS BOARD LAST WEEK AFTER THE SPECIAL MEETING ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THEY WERE UNAWARE OF THESE CHANGES, WHICH LEADS ME TO BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I'M NOT SURE THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD IF THEY DO NOT HAVE INPUT ON THESE THINGS AS THEY HAVE INSIGHT BEYOND THE NUMBERS.
AS A VENDOR OF MANY OF THESE EVENTS, I WAS BLOWN AWAY.
EVENTS WITH MINOR ATTENDANCE, LESS THAN A HUNDRED WERE KEPT AND ONES WITH LONGEVITY AND MUCH BIGGER ATTENDANCE, WHICH I ALSO DISPUTE.
THOSE NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN WERE SLASHED.
THE ONE THAT I FOUND THE MOST SHOCKING WAS SANTA'S ARRIVAL.
THIS IS AN ALMOST 30 YEAR EVENT.
SORRY, MY SCREAM JUST, THERE WE GO.
IT'S AN ALMOST 30 YEAR EVENT THAT DRAWS MUCH BIGGER NUMBERS THAN THE LISTED NUMBERS FROM LAST WEEK AND IS SOMETHING EVERYONE LOOKS FORWARD TO.
SANTA'S RIDES ARE GREAT BUT ARE NO SUBSTITUTE FOR A PLACE PEOPLE CAN GATHER TO SEE AND GET PHOTOS WITH SANTA AS THEY WATCH THE LIGHTS BE TURNED ON.
THE GRINCH IS GREAT, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE IT STARTED.
WHY CAN'T WE COMBINE THE TWO AND PUT THEM HERE WHERE WE DO SANTA'S ARRIVAL? KEEP IT ON THE FIRST OR THE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF DECEMBER, WHICH IS THE WAY IT USED TO BE AND KEEP IT THAT WOULD KEEP IT FROM COMPETING WITH THE BIG EVENTS HAPPENING IN BEDA THAT TAKE MANY OF THE VENDORS AND SPECTATORS TO BEDA.
I BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS ONE, THIS HALLMARK ESQUE EVENT FOR THIS YEAR THAT KEEPS KYLE STILL ENCOMPASSING THE CHARMING FEELING THAT WE ONCE HAD OTHER EVENTS.
YOU REALLY NEEDED TO SPEAK TO THE VENDORS BEFORE MAKING SOME OF THE DECISIONS.
I HAVE 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE HERE AND AT MANY OTHER EVENTS AROUND OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS, AND WE TRIED TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON WAYS TO MAKE IT BETTER AND CHEAPER.
THERE'S NO REASON SOME OF THESE EVENTS NEED TO COST WHAT THEY DO BASED ON WHAT I SEE IN OTHER PLACES.
MARKET DAYS BEING ONE OF THEM.
THE FACT THAT IT'S NO LONGER BEING HELD DURING THIS COMING FOUNDER'S DAY PARADE IS INSANE AS IT'S BEEN WELL ATTENDED BY THOSE ATTENDING AND AFTER THE PARADE.
AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER AND TALK TO THOSE THAT ACTUALLY GO TO THESE EVENTS.
FOR MORE DETAILS FROM OUR SIDE, PLEASE KEEP SANTA'S ARRIVAL.
COMBINE IT WITH GRINCH ON THE GREEN.
IT IS MUCH BIGGER THAN YOU THINK.
THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SHOCKED THAT THIS 30 YEAR EVENT IS GOING AWAY.
UH, MY NAME IS BRANDON HILL, THE EM S CHIEF FOR ESD NINE EMS. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU AND THE CITIZENS TONIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE FOR, UH, THE ESD NINE EMS SERVICES.
UH, WE HAVE FULLY TRANSITIONED TO THE CITY OF KYLE AS OF JULY 1ST.
UH, SO WE NOW HAVE AN AMBULANCE IN ALL FOUR OF THE KYLE FIRE STATIONS TO INCLUDE MOUNTAIN CITY.
UH, THIS SERVICE IS GONNA CONTINUE AND EXPAND APPROPRIATELY BASED ON THAT CALL VOLUME AND THE NEED OF THE CITY.
UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONTINUING RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL THE CITY STAFF AND ESPECIALLY THE KYLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE, UH, WORKED WELL WITH THEM SO FAR, AND I ENCOURAGE ANY RESIDENT OR ANY OF YOU, UH, IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES, CONCERNS, AND ESPECIALLY COMPLIMENTS, UH, UH, REGARDING OUR STAFF OR OUR SERVICE, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I SIGNED UP ON TWO INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS. SAY THAT AGAIN.
DID YOU NOT WANNA SPEAK? I ABSOLUTELY ON TWO INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS. UM, YES, YOU CAN SPEAK ABOUT 'EM NOW.
WE, WE DON'T SEPARATE 'EM LIKE Y'ALL, WE DON'T SEPARATE 'EM LIKE Y'ALL DO.
UM, UH, THE FIRST ITEM I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON IS ITEM, UH, I BELIEVE IT IS NINE NINE.
UM, AND THAT IS THE HAYES CAD PROPOSAL, UH, FOR NEW FACILITIES.
UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND OR OR UNDERSTAND THE WORKINGS OF THE HAYES CAD, UH, THEY OPERATE SPECIFICALLY NOT OFF OF OUR INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS, BUT ALLOCATIONS FROM EACH OF US.
UH, WE RECEIVE NOTIFICATION ALL THE CITIES AND TAXING ENTITIES IN, IN THE COUNTY, UH, EARLIER THIS MONTH THAT THEY PLAN AN EXPANSION, UH, AT MINIMUM, OR PARDON ME, AT MAXIMUM $15 MILLION, UH, FOR A NEW FACILITY, INCREASED STAFFING COSTS AND OTHER ANCILLARY COSTS, UH, WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EXPLANATION TO US, MUCH LIKE WE OPERATE UNDER A 30 DAY SHOT CLOCK.
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UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN THEY SENT US THAT NOTIFICATION, THEY DID NOT NOTIFY ANY OF THE TAXING ENTITIES DIRECTLY THAT IF YOU CHOSE NOT TO TAKE ACTION, THERE WAS AN AUTOMATIC APPROVAL OF THAT.WE CONSIDERED THIS IN HAYES COUNTY COMMISSIONER TO COURT TODAY AND VOTED DOWN THEIR RESOLUTION FIVE ZERO, UH, IN ANTICIPATION ASKING THAT.
NUMBER ONE, THEY'VE COME BACK AND DISCUSS THIS IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY.
TELL US WHERE THE FACILITY IS.
GIVE US THOSE STAFFING NUMBERS.
GIVE US WHAT THOSE INCREASES WERE.
I WAS ABSOLUTELY FLOORED AND SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT ONE OF THOSE INCREASES WAS POSSIBLY A SINGLE $80,000 PAY INCREASE FOR ONE EMPLOYEE.
UH, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT STAFFING CUTS AND STAFFING SALARY READJUSTMENTS, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY AN ABOMINATION THAT THEY COME AND ASK THEIR TAXING ENTITIES FOR THAT.
UH, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO, TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION DURING YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS TODAY.
AND I, I ALSO SIGNED UP ON, UH, THE OTHER ITEM, UH, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S 18.
UH, IT'S THE KYLE VISTA PARK ITEM.
I JUST WANNA SAY NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE ANIMALS OF HAYES COUNTY AND TO ALL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE OUT THERE WORKING ON A DAILY BASIS.
HAYES COUNTY HAS STEPPED UP WITH Y'ALL AND MADE A TRUE COMMITMENT.
IT'S A COMMITMENT THAT ISN'T LOCKED TO A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S A COMMITMENT TO OUR CITIZENS.
IT'S A COMMITMENT TO OUR TAXPAYERS AND IT'S COMMITMENT TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
NOT ONLY NOW, BUT WE'VE SEEN OVER, OVER A DECADE WITH THESE ISSUES.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
I KNOW THAT WE AS A COURT HAVE SAID WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH KYLE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN A SPECIFIC PROPERTY.
IT MEANS A SPECIFIC PLAN AND A SPECIFIC PLAN OF ACTION TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF ALL OF OUR CITIZENS.
I JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMITMENT AND REITERATE THAT AS A COURT, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR COURT.
THEY WANT TO HONOR THAT COMMITMENT AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THOSE IN THE, IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO HAVE A QUESTION.
WE DO HAVE AN ILA THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO AN INDIVIDUAL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S AN ILA AND A COMMITMENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FACILITY AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN CON CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
MAYOR, MAYOR, PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS TRACY SHIELD AND I COME TO YOU AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF KYLE.
FIRST COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT.
THEY WORKED HARD AND DILIGENT WITH WHAT THEY HAD AND PUT ON A RATHER DECENT FIREWORK SHOW.
HOWEVER, ON MY WAY HOME FROM SAID SHOW, 'CAUSE I WATCHED IT AT THE SHELL STATION WITH THE EMPLOYEES THERE.
UM, I GOT A BETTER SHOW FROM THE POLO CLUB, YOU KNOW, MY ENTIRE RIDE HOME.
AND MATTER OF FACT, THEY KIND OF TOOK OUT SOME OF THE POWER, BUT, UH, IT WAS JUST, IT JUST KIND OF SHOWED THE DIFFERENCE.
UM, I KNOW WE ARE ON A BUDGET SHORTFALL.
I KNOW THAT, AND I KNOW THERE HAS TO BE CUTS, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE CUTS IN A A, A WAY THAT NOT JUST SAYS, OKAY, WE HAVE ALL THESE CIPS.
WE NEED TO DO THE CIPS AND THAT'S IT.
QUALITY OF LIFE IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN KYLE.
OUR COMMUNITY IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS OF KYLE, FOR SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WERE, UM, TAKEN AWAY, ESPECIALLY SANTA'S ARRIVAL.
THAT IS A TRADITION FOR YOU GUYS TO, AS AN ENTITY.
I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY WAS FOR IT, BUT AS AN ENTITY, YOU GUYS TOOK AWAY THE MARKET DAYS.
YEAH, THOSE NEEDED TO BE TONED DOWN MONETARILY, BUT THEY STILL COULD HAVE BEEN DONE.
THIS MARKET DAYS BRINGS IN PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, VENDORS AND JUST PEOPLE COMING IN, WALKING AROUND AND SEEING KYLE.
WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THE FEELING OF KYLE AND THE COMMUNITY OF KYLE,
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ALL YOU GET IS A CITY.AND WHEN PEOPLE GO ON FACEBOOK AND ASK OTHER PEOPLE, HEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF KYLE? AND THEY ALL SAY, WELL, WE LIVE HERE, BUT WE GO ELSEWHERE TO HAVE FUN AND TO ENJOY.
YOU KNOW, THAT NOT ONLY IS A WAY OF CUTTING OFF YOUR NOSE, SPITE YOUR FACE 'CAUSE YES, YOU HELPED THE BUDGET, BUT YOU ALSO DECREASED THAT.
OKAY, WELL, YOU, WELL, HE GOT TO SPEAK FOR FIVE AND A HALF MINUTES, SO I'M GONNA TAKE JUST A FEW MORE.
UM, WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY THE PEOPLE, UH, RIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, UM, HAVE FUN AND, AND SUCH, WELL, I GUESS IT'S REALLY NOT A RIGHT.
BUT ANYWAY, PROPERTY VALUES, WHEN THEY TRY TO SELL, GO DOWN AND GUESS WHAT? THAT THEN AFFECTS OUR BUDGET BECAUSE IT AFFECTS OUR TAX AND OUR PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION.
UM, AMY, MAY I MAKE A FA UH, STATEMENT OF FACT BY SAYING THAT THE SANTO'S ARRIVAL WASN'T GOING AWAY, BUT IT'S COMBINED? I JUST, I JUST WANNA ADDRESS THOSE TWO CONCERNS.
'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME MISINFORMATION.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY, WOULD I BE ACCURATE TO SAY THAT SANTA'S ARRIVAL HAS BEEN COMBINED WITH ANOTHER PROJECT? WE ARE PERMITTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACT.
I, WHO, WHO COULD CONFIRM THAT, THAT MY STATEMENT OF FACT IS A FACT.
I DON'T WANNA GIVE ANY MISINFORMATION, BUT I BELIEVE SANTA'S ARRIVAL DID NOT GO AWAY.
THAT INSTEAD IT WAS JUST COMBINED WITH ANOTHER PRO.
WE COMBINED SANTA'S ARRIVAL WITH, UM, THE SANTA RIDES.
SO WE WILL DO THE LIGHTING AND THEN SANTA WILL GO OFF AND RIDE ON HIS ROUTE, IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I, I CAN'T PERSONALLY, YOU KNOW, ATTEST TO WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET CUT PART OF THAT.
SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY MR. ELIZONDO WHO'S OUT ON VACATION RIGHT NOW.
HOW TO GIVE YOU EXACT NUMBERS.
WE WILL ADDRESS THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A CORRECT UH, STATEMENT.
I HAVE KAMI SANFORD, UH, HELLO.
UM, I'M KAMI SANFORD AND I LIVE IN PLUM CREEK.
I'M URGING YOU TO PRESERVE THE PLANNED ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE ON KOHLER'S CROSSING.
UH, MY CHILDREN WILL LEARN HOW TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD WHEN 1626 WAS FIRST EXTENDED TO I 35 AND THE INTERSECTION IN KOHLER'S CROSSING WAS FIRST CREATED.
THERE WAS A RECENT HIGH, UH, HAYES HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE THAT WAS KILLED THERE.
UH, I DIDN'T KNOW THE BOY, BUT SEVERAL OF MY FRIENDS DID, AND IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE TRAGEDY.
COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAS, UH, MAY REMEMBER THE EXACT TIME IT HAPPENED.
UM, SINCE THEN, KOHLER'S HAS REMAINED DANGEROUS.
IT'S A LONG STRAIGHT ROAD THAT GOES TO THE HIGHWAY.
PEOPLE LIKE TO DRIVE FAST ON IT.
IT'S, UH, THE PLANNED ROUNDABOUTS WOULD BREAK UP THAT LONG STRETCH OF ROAD.
AND AS OUR CITY ENGINEER HAS EVEN SAID, IT WOULD BE THE SAFEST OPTION.
SO PLEASE RESEARCH THE HISTORY OF ACCIDENTS ALONG KOHLER'S CROSSING BEFORE CONSIDERING ANY CHANGE TO THE ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PLANNED THERE.
UH, THE INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR HIGHWAY SAFETY AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION BOTH FOUND THAT THE CONVERTING TRADITIONAL INTERSECTIONS TO ROUNDABOUTS REDUCES INJURY CRASHES BY 75% AND IT REDUCES FATALITIES BY UP TO 90%.
SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE RE UH, THEY DISLIKE ROUNDABOUTS 'CAUSE THEY THINK THEY'RE NEW OR DIFFERENT OR THEY THINK THEY'RE UNNECESSARY, BUT THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR THAT THEY ARE SAFER.
THESE ROADS WERE BUILT WITH ROUNDABOUTS IN MIND, AND IT'S AGAINST PUBLIC INTEREST TO MAKE A CHANGE.
NOW I WALK MY KIDS TO SCHOOL EVERY MORNING, AND I GREATLY PREFER WHEN MY FAMILY IS CROSSING NEAR A ROUNDABOUT VERSUS A FOUR-WAY STOP.
ROUNDABOUT TRAFFIC IS PREDICTABLE.
WE JUST GO WHEN THERE'S NO CARS THERE.
BUT AT STOPS, PEOPLE SKIP THEIR TURNS, THEY WAVE ME OR OTHER CARS THROUGH OUT OF ORDER, AND SOMETIMES THEY EVEN DRIVE STRAIGHT THROUGH WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING.
UH, YOU CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT AT A ROUNDABOUT.
THERE'S A REASON THAT THE RESEARCH ON ROUNDABOUTS IS REMARKABLY CONSISTENT.
I'M SORRY IF I SAID YOUR NAME WRONG.
UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY, UH, APPROVAL FOR THE ROAD BOND, UH, PROGRAM.
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UH, I'M A MEMBER OF PLUM CREEK AND AS A MEMBER, UM, I'VE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON SANDERS IN EARLY IN THE MORNING.WE HAVE, UM, QUITE A BIT OF BACKUP THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT FOUR-WAY STOP.
I DON'T CONSIDER THAT THE, UM, TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO BE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THAT AREA, MAINLY BECAUSE IT CAUSES MORE IDLING, UM, AND MORE EXHAUST FUMES FOR THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA.
UM, MANY OF THEM ARE ALREADY IMPACTED BY THIS AND THEY CAN'T ENJOY THEIR HOME, SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, ALONG WITH THE TRAFFIC ON SANDERS, UM, IT'S BACKED UP ON KOHLER'S CROSSING ALMOST TO 27 70.
SO, UM, HAVING A TRAFFIC SIGNAL COULD IMPACT THAT AND MAKE IT WORSE.
UM, I AP I, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THE STUDY AND TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THAT, UM, ONCE THE TRAFFIC GETS BACKED UP, THE OTHER STREETS COMING OUT OF PLUM CREEK CAN'T GET OUT ON KOHLER'S CROSSING.
ANOTHER ITEM IS THAT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT ON 27 70 AND COLORS CROSSING CAUSES A LOT OF PEOPLE TO TRY TO GET AROUND THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT DURING THE SCHOOL TIME.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CUT THROUGH PLUM CREEK AND JUST TO GET AROUND THAT SIGNAL, WHAT IS GOING TO PREVENT THEM FROM DOING THE SAME THING TO OURS, UH, IF WE HAVE A SIGNAL THERE.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT A ROUNDABOUT.
UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS I HOPE THAT YOU WON'T, UM, DELAY, UH, A PROJECT OR, UM, I FORGOT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
UH, DELAY A PROJECT BASED UPON BUDGET BECAUSE IT BECOMES MORE EXPENSIVE DOWN THE ROAD.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I APPRECIATE YOUR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.
I'M JEFF KAUFMAN AND ALTHOUGH I'M, UH, NOT A RESIDENT OF KYLE, I LIVE IN BUTTA, I FEEL LIKE I'M A STAKEHOLDER BECAUSE WE DO SHARE THE SAME WATER, WE SHARE THE SAME AIR, WE, WE SHARE THE SAME STORES WHERE I SHOP AND THE SAME ROADS AND CONGESTION.
AND I GIVE A LOT OF TAXES TO YOUR, TO YOUR STORES HERE WHILE I'M HERE.
SO, UH, I DO WANNA SAY THAT WE DO COEXIST AND WE LIVE ALL SIDE BY SIDE.
AND, UH, AS A RESULT, I DO WANNA COMMENT ON SOME OF THE ITEMS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
MY IN-LAWS LIVE IN PLUM CREEK AND I VISIT FREQUENTLY.
THEY LIVE, UH, RIGHT AT SANDERS, UH, STREET ON, UH, KOHLER'S CROSSING.
SO I DO KNOW THAT, UH, QUITE WELL.
THE, UH, UH, TRAFFIC ALWAYS GETS BACKED UP THERE, UH, ANY, ANY TIME THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
UM, I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CITY OF KYLE IS BACKTRACKING ON A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT ITEMS THEY PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO, WHICH WOULD BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING NOT JUST KYLE, BUT OUR SHARED REGION.
THE FIRST IS THE KYLE ANIMAL SHELTER THAT I THINK YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, SOME FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY TONIGHT.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE A COMMITMENT TO THE SHELTER.
UH, AND THE SECOND IS THE ROAD BONDS PROJECTS AND THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS ABOUT TO SUPERSEDE REQUESTS FOR STAFF INFORMATION THAT THEY THEMSELVES MADE REGARDING BOTH THE KYLE VISTA PROPERTY, WHERE AN ANIMAL SHELTER HAS BEEN CONSIDERED FOR DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO A STAFF PRESENTATION REGARDING TRAFFIC SAFETY.
IN MY EXPERIENCE, THERE ARE MANY PLACES WHERE TRAFFIC CIRCLES ARE WAY BETTER FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY AND FLOW THAN TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT INTERSECTIONS.
UH, WHERE ACCIDENTS CAN HAPPEN AT HIGH SPEEDS IN TRAFFIC CIRCLES, PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO GO A LOT SLOWER AND TRAFFIC FLOWS EVENLY WITHOUT HAVING TO STOP.
I THINK YOUR STAFF SUPPORT AND I THINK EVEN A FEW WEEKS AGO, YOUR UH, STAFF ENGINEER, UH, SUGGESTED THAT TO BE THE CASE.
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UH, SO BY JUMPING THE GUN AND SENDING, UH, SEALING OFF THE KYLE VISTA PROPERTY ALSO FOR FUTURE USE OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN PARKS IS A HASTILY PREMATURE CONSIDERATION.SINCE STAFF ARE GONNA ALSO BRING YOU SOME OPTIONS, I BELIEVE WITH THAT.
IN ADDITION, THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY, UH, AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN KYLE, THE CITY OF BUTA AND HAYES COUNTY TO SHARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY OF KYLE HAS PULLED OUT OF THAT POTENTIAL AGREEMENT.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH EARLIER TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR CONTINUED WORKING TOGETHER.
THIS, UH, COULD BE A DETRIMENT OTHERWISE TO ALL THREE ENTITIES WHO COULD SHARE IN THE COST AND THE SERVICES.
UH, KYLE BUDDA AND HAYES COUNTY, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU RECONSIDER AND GET BACK INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH BUDDA AND THE COUNTY FOR A SHARED USED ANIMAL SHELTER AND ALSO THAT YOU CONSIDER AWAITING YOUR STAFF REPORT AND FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS TO DEVELOP TRAFFIC EASEMENT, INCLUDING ROUNDABOUTS AT THESE CRITICAL INTERSECTIONS.
ALRIGHT, UP NEXT I HAVE LAUREN FOY.
I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PREVENTA LITTER OF CENTRAL TEXAS.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CAN THE EAST SIDE PARKLAND LOCATION FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS DECISION AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS OF WHY AFTER AN EXPENSIVE AND EXPENSIVE FEASIBILITY STUDY, ARE YOU GUYS JUST FINDING OUT THAT THIS IS NOT A LOCATION THAT CAN BE USED OR WANTED FOR A SHELTER? IS THERE A PERCEIVED PROBLEM THAT THERE IS TOO MUCH SMELL, UH, TOO MUCH NOISE? BECAUSE I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE CAN DEBUNK IT AND MEDIATE THAT SITUATION WITH PROPER DESIGN.
UH, SECOND, WASN'T THE SHELTER SUPPOSED TO BE MORE THAN JUST HOUSING ANIMALS AND PART OF THE COMMUNITY? THE ANIMAL COMMUNITY SHELTER IS SUPPOSED TO BE INVITING, ACCESSIBLE, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PART OF KYLE TO ACCESS RESOURCES.
IT'S OVER A HUNDRED YARDS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT DOESN'T TAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKLAND.
UM, CAN YOU WAIT FOR THE 21ST TO SEE THE DESIGN PRESENTATION AND THEN DECIDE YOU DON'T WANT IT THERE? UM, BUT DON'T MAKE THE KYLE SHELTER THE STATUS QUO.
YOU HAVE ALREADY SPENT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ON DESIGN AND FEASIBILITY STUDIES.
YOU'VE HAD TOWN HALLS, PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND MUCH MORE.
PLEASE DON'T FORGET THAT KYLE HAD A PLAN THAT WAS GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS AND ANIMALS WITH THE COMMUNITY VET CLINIC INCORPORATED INTO THE DESIGN AND RESOURCES.
IF IT'S BECAUSE OF MONEY, KYLE ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE TO PAY THE LION'S SHARE.
WE CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTNER WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND COMMUNITY LIKE BUTTA AND SAN MARCUS AND HELP WITH THE RESOURCES THAT IF IT'S FINANCIAL, UM, SORRY, I KIND OF GET AWAY WITH MYSELF.
SO YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO DECIDE WHERE AND WHAT YOU WANNA DO WITH YOUR ANIMALS.
AND THIS MATTERS BECAUSE YOUR CHOICES RIGHT NOW WILL BE FOR DECADES.
SO DO IT CORRECTLY NOW AND NOT JUST PUT A SHELTER IN A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT TO WAREHOUSE ANIMALS.
THEY DESERVE BETTER AND WE ALL DO.
UM, NEXT I HAVE BETTY CONLEY AND RUTH GREEN WILL BE YIELDING HER THREE MINUTES AS WELL.
HI MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ON YIELDING THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE SOME SENIORS THAT HAVE DISABILITY, POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS.
I CAN NAME A FEW THAT ARE AFRAID TO STAND UP HERE AND TALK.
SO THEY'RE YIELDING THREE MINUTES TO ME TO TALK FOR THEM AND I THINK THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE A VOICE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER MS. SADA, THAT YOU DON'T STAND ALONE.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE BEING JUDGED, NOT ACCEPTED.
WE HAVE THE MENTAL HEALTH, WE HAVE THE DISABLED, WE HAVE PRIDE.
WHO GETS THE FIRST CHOICE TO HAVE THEIR OWN MARKET DAY? AND IF WE DID MARKET DAY AT THE COST THAT YOU SAY ON YOUR TIKTOK AT 6,100, WHICH IS NOT REALLY THE COST 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO COUNT THE EMPLOYEES, ALL THE WORK THAT IS DONE, ALL THE CLEANING UP, SETTING UP STAGE, MUSIC VENDORS, WHATEVER.
JUST YOUR 6,100 WILL COST THE CITY $707,000 OR MORE.
I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD LAY ON THE TAXPAYERS TO HAVE TO DO THEMED MARKET DAYS WHEN THEY CAN BE DONE IF YOU WANT IT AND HAVE A HEART LIKE WE HAVE DONE.
WE CAS HAS TAKEN OVER JUNETEENTH,
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WE'VE DONE IT TWO YEARS WITHOUT COMING TO CITY COUNCIL EXCEPT FOR THEIR HELP IN ADVERTISING.AND MAYBE AS SPEAKERS WE HAVE 75 TO A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT ATTEND THAT EVENT.
IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT AND IT CONTINUES ON.
IF YOU WANT A THEMED PRIDE DAY OR WHATEVER DAY YOU WANT, DO IT.
CREATE IT, HAVE IT COME FROM YOUR HEART.
DON'T JUST GIVE IT TO PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NOT EVEN CARE TO DO THE WORK.
YOU DO IT AND SHOW THEM, THIS IS ME, THIS COMES FROM MY HEART AND I'M FIGHTING FOR THESE PEOPLE.
THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE BUSINESSES, THERE ARE VENDORS, THERE ARE ALL KIND OF PEOPLE.
WE'LL JUMP ON THE WAGON IF YOU JUST GIVE 'EM A CALL.
WE GET PHIL AMINA, WE GET AMVETS, WE GET ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE TO HELP BRING THE CAKE, DO THE FOOD, WHATEVER.
THEREFORE, I FEEL THAT WE DO NOT NEED TO SEE MARKET DAYS.
LIKE I SAID, THERE'S 116 OF THESE WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY I'M HAVING THE MARKET DAY, BUT THE CITY CAN'T PAY FOR THE REST.
WE HAVE AUTISTIC PEOPLE THAT AREN'T ACCEPTED AND MADE FUN OF IN SCHOOL AND BULLIED.
WE HAVE DISABLED PEOPLE NOT ACCEPTED.
THEY'RE MADE FUN OF AND BULLIED.
WE HAVE MENTAL HEALTH, NOT ACCEPTED, MADE FUN AND MADE AND BULLIED.
SHOW THEM YOU REALLY CARE AND DO IT FOR THEM.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MARKET DATES.
AS FAR AS FAR AS VISTA, UH, VISTA PARK, I'D LIKE YOU TO MOVE THAT AGENDA ITEM UP.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, WHERE IT'S GONNA GO AND WOULD LIKE TO LISTEN TO IT.
AND AGAIN, I DO NOT THINK, I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE EXCESSIVE.
YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE 30 PEOPLE.
THERE COULD BE MAYBE IF YOU SAY ONE OTHER PERSON, BUT DON'T CUT THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DISABLED THAT CAN'T COME UP HERE AND TALK.
I FIGHT FOR THE DISABLED AND I FIGHT FOR THE SENIORS AND I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 46 YEARS.
SO WE ALL NEED TO STAND UP AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE WANNA SPEAK FOR, WE'LL HELP YOU.
WHEN WE HAD MARKET DAY ON JUNE, IN JUNE FOR PRIDE DAY.
NOW MY DAUGHTER ALWAYS THEMES CAS WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON ON MARKET DAY.
SHE DOES A LITTLE MUSEUM INSIDE OF CAS.
YOU'VE SEEN THE POSTER BOARDS AND THE STUFF.
SHE HAD ONE FOR PRIDE DAY FOR 1969, HOW IT ALL STARTED AND YOU NEVER EVEN WALKED IN TO SEE IT.
PRIDE DAY WAS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU AND YOU NEVER CAME IN.
AND TO MAKE THE CITY AND TAXPAYERS PAY THE MONEY FOR YOUR WANT WHEN YOU CAN DO IT JUST LIKE WE DO IT AND EVERYBODY ELSE DOES IT.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO JUST STAY WITH FAMILY DAYS.
THE MARKET DAY DEFINITION IN IN THE DEFINITION BOOK, UH, DICTIONARY SAYS IT'S A DAY OF A WEEK WHEN THERE'S A REGULAR EVENT WHERE PEOPLE MEET IN ORDER TO BUY AND SELL THINGS, ESPECIALLY OUTDOORS AND IN A SPECIAL BUILDING AND USUALLY ON A SATURDAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD REMAIN A FAMILY DAY.
WE'RE ABOUT TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACT, CORRECT? YEAH, AS LONG AS IT'S A STATEMENT OF FACT.
WE HAD A COUNCIL MEETING THAT SATURDAY, SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND STATEMENT OF FACT.
JESSE ELIZONDO ALSO CLARIFIED THAT WITH DIRECT STAFF COSTS, INDIRECT STAFF COSTS, WHETHER A MARKET DAY IS THEMED OR NOT THEMED.
IT IS $6,140 AND 50 CENTS TO PUT ON.
HONOR ALL THANK YOU FOR PARKER TO DO THAT.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA STOP.
UM, NEXT I HAVE MATTHEW MARSHALL.
UM, IN REGARDS TO AGENDA NUMBER 18, BACK IN 2021, I LIVE IN SUNSET HILLS AREA AND BACK IN 2020 WE WERE TOLD THERE'S GONNA BE A PARK.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VOTE YES ON IT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR AN ANIMAL CARE FACILITY.
LAST DOG WAS LITERALLY OUT ROAMING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
UP NEXT I HAVE STEPHANIE MCDONALD AND CYNTHIA BOLDING HAS YIELDED HER THREE MINUTES TO ME.
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I THANK YOU.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR FLORES CALE AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.
I'VE ASKED FOR YOU TO MOVE ITEM ITEM 18 TO THE TOP OF THE DISCUSSION.
I'D LIKE TO READ A PORTION OF SOMETHING THAT WAS SENT TO ME PERTAINING TO OUR CURRENT BUDGET SHORTFALL.
THE ISSUES THAT CITY KYLE IS NOT.
THE ISSUE IS NOT THAT THE CITY OF KYLE'S GOING BROKE THE ISSUES.
THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH PAYS FOR CORE CITY SERVICES EXPERIENCED A SIGNIFICANT REVENUE SHORTFALL WHILE EXPENDITURES CONTINUED WITHOUT TIMELY CORRECTIVE ACTION IN FY 25.
IT'S MISLEADING TO MINIMIZE THE GENERAL FUND DEFICIT BY COMPARING IT TO THE ENTIRE 604 MILLION ALL FUNDS BUDGET.
MANY OF THAT INCLUDES CAPITAL PROJECTS, BOND FUNDED PROJECTS, UTILITY FUNDS, RESTRICTED OR ASSIGNED DOLLARS THAT CANNOT SIMPLY BE USED TO COVER GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS.
NOT ALL MONEY SHOWN IN CITY FINANCIALS IS LIQUID, FLEXIBLE OR AVAILABLE TO SOLVE AN OPERATING DEFICIT.
THERE WAS WEAK FORECASTING IN A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS, WHICH WAS A MAJOR REGION.
REVENUES FELL SHORT THAT FORECASTING DID NOT ORIGINATE WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WITHOUT THE UNBUDGETED REVENUE WE RECEIVED IT WOULD'VE BEEN OVER 7 MILLION SHORT LAST FISCAL YEAR, PRIMARILY TO DO TO THE, TO THOSE INFLATED REVENUE PROJECTIONS.
MEANWHILE, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR WAS PUBLISHING REPORTS WEEKLY AND MEETING MONTHLY WITH THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING THE CITY'S FINANCIAL CONDITION.
THE RESPONSIBILITY TO RELAY THAT FINANCIAL CONDITION TO COUNCIL RESTED WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHO IS NOW THE FORMER CITY MANAGER COUNCIL, CANNOT MAKE TIMELY BUDGET CORRECTIONS OF INFORMATION NOT CLEARLY AND DIRECTLY BROUGHT FORWARD.
BY THE TIME COUNSEL WAS EXPRESSLY NOTIFIED IN APRIL, THE PROBLEM HAD ALREADY BEEN COMPOUNDED.
OF COURSE ACROSS MULTIPLE FISCAL YEARS.
KYLE DREW DOWN FUNDS IN FY 24.
KYLE DREW DOWN FUNDS AGAIN IN FY 25.
WE ENDED FY 25 BELOW THE RESERVE THRESHOLD CARRIED A DEFICIT INTO FY 26 AND WITHOUT CORRECTIVE ACTION, WE'RE PROJECTED TO USE MILLIONS MORE FROM RESERVES.
BUDGET MANAGEMENT, THE CHARTER ALSO IS IMPORTANT.
KYLE'S CHARTER STATE CITY CHARTER STATES, THE RESERVE FUND MAY EXPEND BE EXPENDED ONLY FOR AN EMERGENCY AND IF USED MUST BE RESTORED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, A REVENUE FORECAST THAT PROVES OVERLY OPTIMISTIC IS NOT AN EMERGENCY THAT JUSTIFIES USING RESERVES WHILE CONTINUING NORMAL SPENDING WITHOUT BRINGING CORRECTIVE OPTIONS TO COUNCIL.
ONCE PROJECTIONS SHOWED REVENUES WERE GOING TO COME IN SHORT FOR THE YEAR, THE FORMER CITY MANAGERS SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT SPENDING REDUCTIONS, BUDGET AMENDMENTS OR CORRECTIVE PLAN TO COUNCIL CONTINUING TO SPEND AT THE SAME LEVEL.
WHILE RELYING ON RESERVES WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, WHICH BY THE WAY, THERE WERE TWO MEETINGS PLANNED FOR BEFORE HE LEFT, WHICH HE CANCELED.
CONVENIENTLY, THIS MATTERS FOR BOND RATINGS.
STRUCTURAL BALANCES, RESERVES LIQUIDITY, DEBT BURDEN, FINANCIAL CONTROLS AND MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
A CITY USING RESERVES TO COVER RECURRING OPERATING COSTS WHILE ALSO PLANNING ADDITIONAL BARRING CAN ABSOLUTELY CREATE READING PRESSURE.
SO KNOW THIS IS NOT ABOUT PANIC, IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, MAKING SURE KYLE RESTORES ITS RESERVES, CORRECTS THE STRUCTURAL IMBALANCE AND GIVES COUNCIL RESIDENTS THE FULL FINANCIAL PICTURE GOING FORWARD.
THE FULL CORRECTION IS THE 14.2 MILLION.
THAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT TAKE TO PUT THE CITY BACK WHERE THE ADOPTED BUDGET EXPECT US TO BE.
SO IF YOU'RE TRAVELING TO A DESTINATION FOUR MILES AWAY, BUT INSTEAD YOU GO 10 MILES PAST, THE WAY TO GET BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE IS TO DRIVE 14 MILES BACK TO THE SPENDING.
THE STARTING POINT, THE BALANCE WE MAINTAIN ABOVE RESERVE LEVELS IS INVESTED.
SO WE LOST CONSIDERABLE REVENUE ON THOSE INVESTMENTS BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE DRAWDOWN.
UM, OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER EXPLAINED THAT DFE OF DEBT OR EARLY PAY DOWN DOES NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDE A TANGIBLE OR IMMEDIATE BENEFIT TO TAXPAYERS UNLESS THE DEBT IS PAID OFF.
WE STILL HAVE THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED DEBT PAYMENT, WHICH MAKES UP THE INTEREST IN SINKING PORTION OF THE TAX RATE.
THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT PAYING DOWN DEBT IS ALWAYS BAD, BUT IT CAN BE.
D DIFFUSING DEBT LAST YEAR REQUIRED US TO RAISE OUR TAX RATE FOR RESIDENTS 27% TO THE MAX APPROVED UNDER THE 2022 ROAD BOND.
SO WE JACKED UP PROPERTY TAXES, LOST REVENUE FROM INVESTMENT INCOME AND STILL HAVE TO CUT CITY SERVICES BECAUSE OF THOSE FINANCIAL POLICIES WHICH WERE RECOMMENDED BY BRIAN LANGLEY APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
ANOTHER ISSUE IS THAT THE RESERVES USUALLY WOULD BE EARNING INTEREST.
SO BY DIPPING INTO THE RESERVES DUE TO BOARD PLANNING, WE LOST THE INTEREST INCOME COUNCIL MEMBER LEY HARRIS CONTINUES TO LEAVE THIS OUT WHEN SHE CLAIMS THAT SHE AND THE REST OF THE FORMER COUNSEL SAVE THE TAXPAYERS MONEY BY PAYING DOWN DEBT EARLY.
IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE TO PAY DOWN DEBT EARLY IF DEBT EARLY IF BY DOING SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY OTHER OBLIGATIONS.
PAYING DOWN OUR DEBT DEBT EARLY AFFECTED OUR TAX RATE.
OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGERS TRYING TO BUDGET THE BALANCE, WHICH INVOLVES ELIMINATING REDUNDANT POSITIONS, CUTTING OTHER ITEMS. SO THE BUDGET SHORTFALL IS CORRECTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO ALL OF THIS THAT'S GOING ON, CUTTING EVENTS, ELIMINATING POSITIONS,
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WE OVERSPENT, WE WENT INTO RESERVES, WE ARE IN TROUBLE.NOW YOU HAVE TO, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME PAIN INVOLVED IN CORRECTING THAT.
UM, ALSO AMENDING RULES OF COUNCIL.
I SEE THAT, UM, THE MAYOR HAS AUTHORITY OVER THE COUNCIL.
SO WHEN YOU CREATE THESE RULES OF COUNCIL, PLEASE DON'T DIMINISH THE MAYOR'S ROLE THROUGH THE RULES OF COUNCIL.
ITEM NUMBER 18, THE CAL VISTA PROPERTY.
THANKS FOR LOOKING INTO THE DEED HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY.
I ASK THAT YOU VOTE TO UTILIZE THIS PROPERTY AS PARKLAND AS INTENDED.
ALSO, PLEASE DON'T ALLOW THE ANIMAL SHELTER ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AS THE DEED EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS ANIMALS FROM THIS PROPERTY AND ALLOW THE COUNTY TO HANDLE THE DOG SHELTER.
WE ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT THROUGH OUR COUNTY TAXES.
I HAVE NO MORE, UM, FORMS. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? MS. CYNTHIA BENTLEY.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND OUR COUNCIL.
I'M THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE NONPROFIT UNFORGETTABLE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS.
WE HAVE BEEN A NONPROFIT SERVING OUR CITIZENS HERE IN KYLE FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.
WE HAVE VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP OUR CITIZENS, SUCH AS SCHOOL SUPPLIES, TENNIS SHOES, CHRISTMAS TOYS, UM, TENNIS SHOES, COATS, YOU NAME IT.
IF WE GET A PHONE CALL AND SOMEONE SAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY FOOD, WE GO INTO ACTION AND MAKE SURE THEY GET FOOD OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN OUR SCHOOL SUPPLIES MOOD.
YESTERDAY, UH, WE STARTED PUTTING OUT OUR BOXES TO COLLECT SCHOOL SUPPLIES.
WE PUT OUT 12 BOXES IN KYLE AND WE HAVE ABOUT THREE BOXES IN BUDDA.
THE SCHOOL SUPPLIES THAT WE COLLECT, SERVICE OUR CHILDREN IN HAYES COUNTY AND OUR LITTLE SURROUNDING AREAS.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES WE DO GET REQUESTS FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR AREA.
AND ON AUGUST THE FIRST WE ARE GOING TO HAVE STUFFED THE BUS.
OUR PARTNER IN THAT IS THE PHILOMENA, UH, NEW SIGMA SIGMA SORORITY CALLED AREA SENIOR ZONE.
WE WILL BE AT WALMART ON AUGUST THE FIRST FROM 9:00 AM UNTIL ABOUT ONE COLLECTING SCHOOL SUPPLIES.
WE ARE GONNA STUFF THAT PHILOMENA BUS WITH SCHOOL SUPPLIES JUST AS WE DID LAST YEAR, THE LAST FRIDAY, THE LAST SATURDAY IN JULY, WE WILL BE PARTNER WITH HAYES CARE SHOES OF HOPE.
WE HAVE ABOUT 800 CHILDREN ON OUR LIST TO RECEIVE BRAND NEW TENNIS SHOES TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL ON AUGUST THE SECOND.
WE WILL BE AT WALLACE ELEMENT MIDDLE SCHOOL, UH, GIVING OUT SCHOOL SUPPLIES, TENNIS SHOES, AND ALSO T-SHIRTS.
WE HAVE ABOUT 80 BARBERS THAT'S GIVING UP THEIR TIME.
AUGUST THE SECOND IS A SUNDAY 'CAUSE THAT'S CONVENIENT FOR OUR BARBERS.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE HAIRCUTS, MANICURES, AND WE ARE GONNA EVEN CURL THE LITTLE GIRL'S HAIRS.
AND SO IT'S GONNA BE REALLY, REALLY GREAT.
IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THIS, WE HAVE TO HAVE FUNDING HUMP DAY, HAPPY HOUR WITH ALLISON AND HAYES.
OH, I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON.
UM, WITH HAYES HOME TEAM, IT'S A REALTOR HERE IN KYLE.
UH, THEY ARE SPONSORING THE HUMP DAY AT WILLIE'S.
UH, WITH CAPELLI'S BARBER AND SALON, THE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ORDER ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, A PORTION WILL GO TO UNFORGETTABLE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS FOR SCHOOL SUPPLIES.
AND FROM FIVE UNTIL ABOUT SEVEN YOU COME.
WE HAVE A NICE GATHERING OF BUSINESSES.
SO IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS AND YOU WANNA NETWORK, THAT'S A VERY GOOD NETWORK OPPORTUNITY.
SO I'M EXIT EVERYBODY, ANYBODY WHO KNOWS OF A BUSINESS THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A SCHOOL SUPPLY BOX BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE GAVE OUT 600 CHILDREN SCHOOL SUPPLIES AND THIS YEAR WE CAN SEE THAT WE WILL HAVE MORE.
SO MY NAME IS CYNTHIA BENTLEY, PRESIDENT OF UNFORGETTABLE FAMILIES AND FRIENDS, A 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT SERVICE IN OUR FAMILIES IN HAYES COUNTY.
I HAVE NO MORE FORMS. I COME ON UP.
IF YOU COULD DO ME A FAVOR AND STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.
MY NAME IS EDDIE CLARK AND I LIVE AT SUNSET HILLS.
SO GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UH, I WANNA FIRST OFF BY SAYING I APPRECIATE ROBERT HUNTER FOR STANDING UP FOR THE NEIGHBORS OF SUNSET HILLS AND HIS FAMILY YIELDING THEIR PERSONAL MINUTES FOR HIM TO CONTINUE TO ECHO THE
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SENTIMENTS AND VOICE OF MEMBERS OF SUNSET HILLS.AND WITH THAT ALSO BEING SAID, IF THERE'S ANY TIME WHERE THE MINUTES THAT HAVE BEEN YIELDED TO HIM BECOME OF AN ISSUE, HE CAN HAVE MINE.
AND IF THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH, THEN I'LL READ WHAT HE WANTS ME TO ECHO BECAUSE HE DOES IT VERY WELL IF ANYONE HAS AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
SO ALSO BY SAYING THIS, I WANNA START OFF BY SAYING YES TO ITEM NUMBER 18, THE PARK AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES.
UM, AS I UNDERSTOOD WHEN I ALSO PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND BUILT IT FROM THE GROUND UP AS OTHERS HAVE, THAT'S WHAT WE WAS TOLD TO US.
THAT'S WHAT UNDER WHAT'S UNDERSTOOD.
UM, SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS 'CAUSE I THINK ABOUT A MONTH AGO WE HAD THIS SAME MEETING AND THERE WAS A PROBATION CENTER AND WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS AND GOT BACK ON TRACK.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A CONSISTENCY OF BEING ON TRACK AND GETTING OFF TRACK, WHICH I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THOSE WHO DON'T LIVE IN KYLE.
BUT ANYWAY, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ACCESS TO YOUR SUPPORT THIS AGENDA ITEM AND TAKE THE NECESSARY STEPS TO PERMANENTLY REAFFIRM KYLE VISTA PARK AS LAND DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY TO PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.
WHEN FAMILIES CHOOSE TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DO SO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PARK EXISTS TO PROVIDE OPEN GREEN SPACE RECREATION AND SAFE PLACE FOR CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND NEIGHBORS TO GATHER.
IT IS PART OF WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE COMMUNITY SPECIAL.
AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, PARKS BECOME EVEN MORE VALUABLE, NOT LESS.
ONCE PARKLAND IS DEVELOPED FOR OTHER PURPOSES, IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO REPLACE.
FUTURE GENERATIONS DESERVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THE SPACE THAT RESIDENTS HAVE TODAY.
THIS ISN'T ABOUT PREVENTING PROGRESS, IT'S ABOUT HONORING THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THIS LAND AND RESPECTING THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE RESIDENTS WHO INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO REPEAL RESOLUTION NUMBER 1909, REAFFIRM THE PARKS TO CHAPTER 26 DESIGNATION AND ENSURE THAT KYLE VISTA PARK REMAINS DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY FOR PARK AND RECREATIONAL USE.
PLEASE PROTECT THE PARK AND OUR CHILDREN.
WE HAVE A MIDDLE SCHOOL THERE AND A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE.
AND I KNOW THESE KIDS WILL ENJOY THIS OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR OBSERVATION.
I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK TODAY, BUT I WROTE SOME THINGS DOWN WHEN I GOT HERE.
UM, REGARDING THE ROUNDABOUTS AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL INTERSECTIONS, I HAVE OVER 24 YEARS EXPERIENCE THESE DESIGNING TRAFFIC SIGNAL INTERSECTIONS, BOTH FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND FOR TXDOT.
I HAVE PERSONALLY DESIGNED OVER 200 SIGNAL LINES INTERSECTIONS WITH FOUR OF THOSE IN KYLE.
TRAFFIC SIGNAL LINES, INTERSECTIONS COST BETWEEN 300 AND $600,000, DEPENDING ON ITS SIZE AND WHERE ITS LOCATION TRAFFIC SIGNALS CAN BE, CAN BE ENHANCED USING OVERLAPS.
RADAR CAMERAS, CHANGING THE TIMING, UM, DIAMOND INTERSECTIONS AND DIVERGENT DIAMONDS AS WELL TO ALLOW FOR GREATER TRAFFIC FLOW.
THERE ARE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON FRONTAGE ROADS, US HIGHWAYS, STATE HIGHWAYS, COUNTY ROADS, URBAN STREETS, AND RURAL ROADS DESIGNED TO HANDLE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC PER DAY.
TRAFFIC SIGNALS WORK EVERYWHERE.
THE CITY OF KYLE MAINTAINS APPROXIMATELY 20 SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS WITH NO FATALITIES IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY LIGHT MAKE MAKING LIGHT OF ANY, ANY FE FATALITIES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST, BUT FOR HAVING OVER 20 SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS AND HAVING VERY FEW FATALITIES, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S, THAT'S WORTH THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
INTER INTERSECTION PEOPLE, EVERYBODY USES TRAFFIC SIGNAL INTERSECTIONS.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 80 YEARS.
UM, THAT'S, I, LIKE I SAID, I JUST WROTE A BUNCH OF STUFF DOWN.
SO ROUNDABOUTS ARE AN ALTERNATIVE WAY TO MOVE TRAFFIC.
EACH ONE COSTING BETWEEN TWO AND $7 MILLION EACH.
YOU COULD BUILD BETWEEN THREE AND 12 SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS
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FOR THE PRICE OF ONE ROUNDABOUT.ROUNDABOUTS ARE DESIGNED FOR LOW AND, UH, INTERMEDIATE AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC FLOW SIGNALED INTERSECTIONS CAN HANDLE LOW TO HIGH TRAFFIC FLOW.
THERE IS A POINT WHERE ROUNDABOUTS ARE NO LONGER PRODUCTIVE.
THEY HAVE A SATURATION POINT UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM TRAFFIC EFFECTS EFFICIENCY OF A ROUNDABOUTS.
IF YOU HAVE A SIGNALED, UH, INTERSECTIONS ON ON ONE END AND IT, AND IT STARTS BACKING UP, IT'S GONNA BACK INTO THE ROUNDABOUT AND IT'LL, IT WON'T, UH, BE, IT WON'T WORK AS AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
WHEN THE ROUNDABOUTS, UH, REACHES ITS SATURATION POINT, IT, IT'S NO LONGER FEASIBLE AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL HAVE TO BE INSTALLED.
HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO REMOVE A ROUNDABOUT? WHY HAVE IT INSTALLED WHEN IT WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED YEARS LATER? ALSO BRING AGENDA 19 FORWARD.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE FORMS. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK BEFORE WE CLOSE? CITIZEN'S COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, SEE NONE.
WE ARE GONNA CLOSE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO TO
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THE AGENDA ORDER.UM, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PULL AGENDA ITEM NINE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THAT'S GONNA GO, UM, UNDER CONSIDER AN POSSIBLE ACTION.
AND THEN I HEARD AGENDA ITEMS 18 AND 19 TO BE PULLED UP.
IS THERE ANY OTHER ONES THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO PULL UP? ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT, UH, WE HAVE CONSENT
[V) Consent Agenda]
AGENDA.IS THERE ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT? IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.
AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, AND EIGHT AND WE'RE GONNA HOLD ON NINE SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TOBIAS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKENNEY TO APPROVE.
ALRIGHT, UP NEXT WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE GONNA PULL UP AGENDA ITEMS 18 AND 19.
[18) Discussion and possible action directing the Interim City Manager and the City Attorney to bring back a resolution to repeal Resolution No. 1909, adopted on September 16, 2025, regarding the Chapter 26 determination for Kyle Vista Property as well as an ordinance and all other documents and actions necessary to reaffirm and rededicate all City-owned tracts comprising Kyle Vista Park as official parkland dedicated exclusively for park and recreational purposes.]
IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION DIRECTING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BRING BACK A RESOLUTION TO REPEAL RESOLUTION NUMBER 1909, ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2025 REGARDING THE CHAPTER 26 DETERMINATION FOR KYLE VISTA PROPERTY, AS WELL AS AN ORDINANCE AND ALL OTHER DOCUMENTS AND ACTIONS NECESSARY TO REAFFIRM AND REDEDICATE ALL CITY OWNED TRACKS COMPRISING KYLE VISTA PARK AS OFFICIAL PARKLAND DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY FOR PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.THIS IS CO-SPONSORED BY MAYOR PRO TEM, MYSELF AND COUNCIL MEMBER GZA.
SINCE THIS IS IN, UH, MAYOR PRO TE'S DISTRICT, I AM GONNA LET HIM LEAD THE CONVERSATION.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG CONVERSATION GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO ALSO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS FROM SUNSET HILLS FOR RESPONDING TO A LOT OF THE EMAILS OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS GOING AROUND IN THAT AREA, INCLUDING WHAT THE HAYES COUNTY WAS LOOKING AT DOING AS WELL.
BUT, UH, TO START OFF, AGAIN, THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND ACTION TO, UH, BRING A RESOLUTION TO THE UH, OF, UH, 1909.
I WANTED TO GIVE A HISTORY IF I COULD GET A, OUR STORYTELLER, UH, SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN HERE FOR MANY YEARS TO GIVE US A RUNDOWN OF KYLE VISA AND ITS BEGINNINGS.
IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I COULD SEND THAT TO OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, UH, PROFESS MO HEATON, MAYOR PERAM, THANK YOU FOR THAT ADDITIONAL NEW TITLE.
SO I'M GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO 2010.
IT'S, I JOINED THE CITY IN OCTOBER OF 2010.
THEN DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, I MADE IT A POINT TO MEET WITH EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT WE HAD IN THE CITY.
I WAS NEW TO THE CITY ORGANIZATION, I WANTED TO GET TO KNOW THEM AND ALSO LEARN ABOUT THEIR DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS.
ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT I MET IN NOVEMBER FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME WAS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, CARRIE IC, A GENTLE SOUL, WAS DEDICATED TO THE COMMUNITY OF KYLE, A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF KYLE.
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SO AS I LOOK BACK, I, I REMEMBER MEETING HIM FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE FALCON ROOM RIGHT BEHIND US.I ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS DEPARTMENT, ABOUT HIMSELF, ABOUT HIS DEPARTMENT'S MISSION.
SO AFTER ALL THAT DISCUSSION, I ASKED HIM VERY SPECIFICALLY, AS THE CITY'S NEW FINANCE DIRECTOR, HOW CAN I HELP YOU FURTHER YOUR DEPARTMENT'S MISSION? AND I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING LIKE, I NEED MORE SPACE, I NEED LEASED VEHICLES, I NEED CREWS, I NEED LAWNMOWERS, STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THE VERY FIRST THING HE ASKED ME, AND YOU COULD TELL HE HIS EYES LIT UP, HIS BODY LANGUAGE CHANGED AND YOU COULD TELL HE WAS RELAXED AT THAT POINT.
AND HE ASKED ME AS THE CITY'S FINANCE DIRECTOR, IF YOU CAN DO ONE THING FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, MY DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES, THE PEOPLE I, MY DEPARTMENT SERVES AND MY CHILDREN WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL.
AND I WAS THINKING, THINKING TO MYSELF, HOW MANY KIDS DOES THIS MAN HAVE? 'CAUSE HE TALKS ABOUT HIS CHILDREN.
SO I ASKED HIM TO, TO EXPLAIN WHAT EXACTLY HE MEANT BY THAT.
HE GOES, PAVES, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING HERE IN KYLE FOR THE LONGEST TIME.
AND HE JOINED THE CITY AT THAT TIME, I BELIEVE HE JOINED THE CITY IN 2004 AND WE WERE TALKING IN 2010.
HE GOES, THERE'S ONE THING YOU CAN DO FOR ME AND FOR MY CHILDREN AND FOR MY DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS FIND THE MONEY THAT I CAN BUILD A RECREATION CENTER ON KYLE VISTA PARK LAND THAT I'VE BEEN HANGING ON FOR THE LONGEST TIME.
AND AS MOST OF YOU MAY KNOW, PASSED AWAY EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UM, HIS DREAM NEVER CAME, CAME THROUGH.
BUT HE WAS SUPER PROTECTIVE OF THAT PROPERTY.
HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO ALL OF US AND INCLUDING ME THAT DAY THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS A DEDICATED PARKLAND.
JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE, HOW MUCH HE WAS PROTECTIVE OF THAT PROPERTY.
OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR NEEDED TO RUN A, I THINK IT WAS A WATER LINE OR WASTEWATER LINE THROUGH THE EDGE OF THAT PROPERTY.
HARPER WILDER WAS OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AT THE TIME.
AND THEY, BOTH OF THOSE MEN GOT ALONG JUST FINE.
BUT WHEN HE CAME TO CAL VISTA PARK, NOBODY WAS GONNA TOUCH HIS PROPERTY AND RUN A LINE.
HE MADE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR GO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS TO GET THROUGH THE CHAPTER 26, UH, PROCESS.
AND IT WASN'T EVEN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT WAS A SLIVER, A CORNER OF HIS, OF THE EDGE OF THAT PROPERTY.
HE PROTECTED THAT PROPERTY THAT MUCH.
I WISH IN THOSE DAYS WE HAD THE MONEY TO HELP PAY FOR THAT RECREATION CENTER.
HE HAD A PLAN, A CONCEPT PLAN.
HE EVEN SAID AT ONE POINT HE HAD DESIGN 60% DESIGN OR 40% DESIGN.
NOT TOO MANY OF THOSE OLD TIMERS ARE LEFT HERE IN THIS ORGANIZATION.
JUST A HANDFUL OF US, UH, INCLUDING THE CITY ENGINEERS.
SO I DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT LEON REMEMBERS THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BUT HE HAD A PLAN AND HE WANTED HIS CHILDREN.
HE FINALLY EXPLAINED TO ME WHEN HE SAW THAT FUNNY LOOK UP MY FACE WHEN I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY KIDS HE HAD BY CHILDREN, HE MEANT THE CHILDREN OF KYLE, IT DIDN'T MATTER.
HE WANTED A PLACE FOR THOSE KIDS TO COME PLAY BASKETBALL.
HE WANTED THEM TO COME PLAY WHATEVER GAME THEY WANTED TO OFF THE STREETS, TAKE
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'EM OFF THE STREETS, KEEP 'EM BUSY DURING SUMMER, DURING OFF SCHOOL, DURING HOLIDAYS.AND IF I HAD A MAGIC WAND, I WOULD'VE GIVEN HIM THE MONEY HE WANTED AND I WOULD HAVE NAMED THAT FACILITY AFTER HIM.
I'M SURE HE IS WATCHING FROM ABOVE AND LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION TODAY.
BUT IT LEFT ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS NOT DEDICATED PARKLAND, WHETHER IT WAS RECORDED OR NOT.
BUT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT KNEW THAT PROPERTY, STAFF WISE, THAT PROPERTY WAS DEDICATED FOR UH, PUBLIC PARK.
MAYOR PORT, I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
UH, WHEN MY FAMILY MOVED BACK TO KYLE, 'CAUSE WE LIVED HERE FOR MANY YEARS AND I MOVED AWAY, WENT TO SCHOOL, STARTED A FAMILY, WE MOVED BACK TO KYLE IN 2004, WE MOVED.
UM, WE LOOKED AT PLUM CREEK, SAID NO, MY WIFE'S LIKE, I CANNOT HAVE THOSE HOUSES RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
I'M SORRY, THOSE FENCES ARE WAY TOO CLOSE.
SO WE LOOKED ON THE OTHER SIDE, EAST SIDE.
SHE ACTUALLY JOINED THE PARKS BOARD, UH, BACK IN 2005.
SO SHE VERY FAINT REMEMBERS A LOT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHEN THEY HAD THAT, THAT THAT FIELD ON TOP OF THE HILL THAT WOULD SOMEDAY OVERLOOK THIS SMALL LITTLE TOWN.
'CAUSE BACK THEN WE WERE LIKE 30,000, MAYBE 25,000 PEOPLE BACK THEN.
THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THE ACTUAL REC CENTER.
THEY WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING THERE WITH THE EAST SIDE SWIMMING POOL.
'CAUSE THEY WERE HAVING TALKS OF HAVING ONE DOWN AT GREG CLARK PARK AND THERE'S MARIO OVER THERE SHAKING HIS HEAD.
REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A POOL OVER THERE, A TRAIL SYSTEM.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, THAT WAS GONNA BE A NEW LOCATION, OR THE LOCATION WAS DEDICATED FOR A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL CHOP CALLED ARMANDO CHOPPA MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND FOR HIS VISION, IT WAS LIKE, IT FITS PERFECT, RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THESE, THIS, UH, UP AND COMING NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED SUNSET HILLS THAT WAS JUST BARELY BREAKING GROUND.
YOU HAD KIDSTON TRAILS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE OLDER ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO IT WAS, IT WAS THERE AND I WAS TRYING TO AGAIN, UM, RE REMEMBER SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD ABOUT THE PARKS WHEN, WHEN MY WIFE THERESA WAS ON IT, AND THAT LOCATION WAS THERE.
SO WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT.
I KNOW WE ARE GROWING AS A CITY, AND I KNOW WE ARE LOOKING AT, THERE'S GONNA BE OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO PURCHASE AND SO FORTH.
BUT THIS TO US, FOR A LOT OF US HERE IN OUR CITY, AND I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRESERVING HISTORY, LIKE DR. HARRIS DOES SO WELL, IT'S PRESERVING OUR PARKLANDS.
AND, AND, AND THIS IS WHY WHEN WE WERE, UM, WHEN THE COUNTY DID COME TO US ABOUT THIS, I, I WAS IN, IN A WAY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEIR MISSION WAS ABOUT BRINGING AN EAST SIDE CAMPUS.
AND OF COURSE, UH, WE WERE ON THE CLOCK ON ABOUT AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN I STARTED HEARING MORE FROM THE RESIDENTS AND STARTED DIGGING DEEPER AND DEEPER, I STARTED SAYING, WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS AGAIN.
AND, UM, AND IT, I THINK WHAT REALLY SOLIDIFIED IT IS WHEN, UH, I WAS GOING THROUGH SOME ISSUES, MEDICAL ISSUES, AND I'LL ADDRESS THAT, UH, SOON.
AND, UH, MAYOR FLORES KALE WAS, WAS KIND ENOUGH TO DROP ME OFF SOME FOOD OR SOME SWEETSS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I SAID, YOU GOT 10 MINUTES? I SAID, YEAH.
HE GOES, LET'S GO TO THE PARK OVER THERE AND JUST GO LOOK.
AND THERE WE WENT AND WE SAW THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE THERE, AND WE HAPPENED TO VISIT WITH THEM JUST TO LET 'EM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY THE COUNTY.
AND THEY WERE SAYING, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS.
'CAUSE THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DEDICATED PARKLAND FOR US.
WE'VE GIVEN SOME OF OUR, OUR EASEMENTS RIGHTS AWAY AND SO FORTH.
AND, UH, TO MAKE A LONGER STORY SHORTER, WE MET WITH THE RESIDENTS THERE AND, UH, THEY WERE TELLING US ABOUT THE VISION OF A, OF A PARK IN THE AREA.
AND WE WERE STILL TRYING TO GATHER THE INFORMATION.
AND WHAT WAS SOMETHING LIKE OUT OF A SCRIPT IN THE MOVIE, YOU COULDN'T HAVE WRITTEN A BETTER SCRIPT.
AND YVONNE REMEMBERS THIS WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH THIS OLDER LADY.
SHE WAS SPEAKING SPANISH TO ME AND TELLING ME THAT THERE WAS A
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GENTLEMAN HERE THAT PROMISED US OR SAID THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PARK FOR LOS NINO AND LOS NINAS, IT'S A PARK AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO SHE WAS REFERRING TO.AND SHE HAD A SMALL LITTLE PURSE.
SHE OPENED IT UP AND SHE PULLED OUT A CARD, A VERY OLD CARD, AND IT HAD CARRIE'S NAME ON IT.
SHE SAID, THIS MAN RIGHT HERE, I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR HIM TO COME AND BUILD US A PLAYGROUND FOR OUR KIDS.
NOW OUR KIDS ARE GROWN AND WE HAVE GRANDKIDS AND WE ARE STILL WAITING, BUT WE KNOW ONE DAY AS THE OLDER, I GET IT, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN, MR. IT'S GONNA HAPPEN ONE DAY.
AND THAT RIGHT THERE WAS, THIS IS WHY WE'VE GOTTA CONTINUE TO PRESERVE OUR GREEN SPACE IN OUR PARK AND LISTENING TO OUR RESIDENTS ENFORCE SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE PROMISED.
AND THAT'S WHY, UM, MAYOR FOR AND COURTNEY GOES, ARE, UH, HELPING WITH THIS.
AND SO I'LL THEN TURN IT OVER TO THEM.
UM, SO MAYOR PRO TOBIAS, COUNCIL MEMBER GZA AND I BROUGHT THIS ITEM FORWARD BECAUSE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED.
THE RECENT NOTICE FROM HAYES COUNTY TERMINATING THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING REGARDING THE PROS PROPOSED EASTSIDE CAMPUS AT KYLE VISTA PARK PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO REVISIT, TAKEN, UH, ACTIONS TAKEN IN SUPPORT OF THAT PROJECT.
THE COUNTY HAS FORMALLY DISCONTINUED ITS PURSUIT OF THE CAL VISTA LOCATION FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CAMPUS WITH THE MOU SCHEDULE TO TERMINATE EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2026.
AND FOR THAT REASON, WE BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF RESENDING THE CHAPTER 26 RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER, 2025 AND RESTORING THE FULL DEDICATION OF KYLE VISTA PARK AS OFFICIAL PARKLAND.
OUR INTENT IS NOT TO BYPASS DISCUSSION, BUT TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS POSITIONED TO CONSIDER THE NECESSARY ORDINANCE AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING WHEN STAFF IS ALREADY SCHEDULED TO PROVIDE A COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION ON THE HISTORY OF KYLE VISTA PARK, INCLUDING ITS ACQUISITION, PRIOR, PRIOR COUNSEL ACTIONS AND LEGAL HISTORY.
SO THE REASON WHY WE PUT IT ON THIS AGENDA IS SO WE CAN, FOR ANY TIME THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE, IT HAS TO BE PLACED ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
SO WE'RE JUST TIMING IT WITH THE PRESENTATION.
THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME MISINFORMATION SUGGESTING THIS ITEM IS AN EFFORT TO PREVENT THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
ALL THREE OF US THAT SPONSORED THIS ITEM SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MODERN ANIMAL SHELTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR CONCERN HAS NE HAS NEVER BEEN WHETHER KYLE SHOULD BUILD AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
OUR CONCERN IS WHETHER KYLE VISTA PARK IS THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION.
AMONG THE ISSUES THAT DESERVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION ARE THE EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS AFFECTING P PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING RESTRICTIONS RELATED TO CERTAIN CLASSES OF ANIMALS, AS WELL AS A LONG-TERM PRESERVATION OF DEDICATED PARKLAND.
THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THIS ITEM FORWARD NOW IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES RESULTING FROM THE COUNTY'S WITHDRAWAL, PRESERVE THE COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO ACT AND TO ENSURE THAT ANY FUTURE DISCUSSION REGARDING KYLE VISTA PARK OCCURS AFTER COUNSEL AND THE PUBLIC HAVE RECEIVED A COMPLETE HISTORICAL AND LEGAL PRESENTATION FROM STAFF, WE BELIEVE RESIDENTS DESERVE A THOUGHTFUL, TRANSPARENT PROCESS BASED ON FACTS BEFORE PERMANENT DECISIONS ARE MADE ABOUT ONE OF KYLE'S MOST SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC PARKS.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL MEMBER DOZA.
UM, MY CON COMMENTS ON THIS ARE RELATIVELY SHORT.
I WANT TO GO MORE INTO SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE ON THERE.
UM, THERE IS A COMMERCIAL RESTRICTION.
THERE IS ALSO A RESTRICTION AGAINST ANIMALS KEPT IN SUCH NUMBERS THAT THEY MAY BE SHOWN TO BE A NUISANCE.
UM, IT IS A HUGE CONCERN THAT IF WE PROCEEDED TO BUILD ON THIS SAYING, OH WELL IT'S A MUNICIPAL BUILDING, OH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS, THAT THE CITIZENS, THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE OUT THERE COULD DEFINITELY SUIT ENFORCE THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
AND THEN IF WE'VE ALREADY BUILT OUT THERE, WE HAVE WASTED TONS OF MONEY.
SO THAT IS PART OF WHAT THIS CONCERN IS, IN ADDITION TO THE WILL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE WHO DEEDED US SOME PORTIONS OF LAND IN ORDER TO COMPILE THAT ENTIRE PARK SPACE IN ADDITION TO THE PROMISES MADE BY THE CITY.
SO IT'S MY CONCERN THAT THE CITY ADHERE TO ITS PROMISES TO ITS CITIZENS AND LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT LOCATION FOR THIS ITEM.
AND IF I JUST MIGHT ADD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I KNOW I WAS GONNA BRING THIS UP IN AUGUST 'CAUSE I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING THE ANIMAL SHELTER CONVERSATION THEN, BUT I'D LIKE TO READ TO YOU GUYS AN EMAIL THAT I WROTE.
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ACTUALLY, IT'S THE DAY AFTER YOUR ELECTION, SUNDAY, DECEMBER 15TH AT 1:47 PM 'CAUSE I THINK WE JUST BARELY GOT NOTICE THAT, UH, THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS BASICALLY SAYING WE CAN'T TAKE ANYBODY ANYMORE, INCLUDING BUTTA SUNDAY, DECEMBER 15TH, 2024.THIS IS ALMOST TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
THIS WENT TO BRIAN LANGLEY AND I CC TRAVIS MITCHELL, JEFF BARNETT 'CAUSE HE'S WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO WITH THE ANIMAL, UH, DIVISION JESSE.
AND I SAID, POSSIBLE LOCATION FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER WAS THE SUBJECT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, BRIAN AND JESSE.
I'M TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME AS WE ARE ON THE CLOCK AS WE BEGIN DISCUSSION OF POSSIBILITIES OF LAND SITES FOR AN FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
HERE'S AN AREA THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE RADAR FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS A MIXED USE.
IT'S IN DISTRICT SIX OFF BB ROAD, BUT IT'S NOT THE VISTA PARK BY THE WAY.
I DROVE OUT TO THIS LOCATION JUST LIKE I DROVE OUT TO LOOK FOR THE SENIORS BUILDING.
THIS SITE COULD BE A POTENTIAL TWO ENTRANCES WITH TWO EXIT POINTS.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S 10 ACRES L-SHAPED OFF TWO MAJOR ROADS NORTH AND SOUTH OF DACY AND EAST OF BIBE.
AND I THINK, WELL, I CAN'T REMEMBER IS WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME APARTMENTS THAT MIGHT BE GOING THERE.
THAT LOCATION, NOT THESE APARTMENT.
THE YELLOW IS THE LAND BOUNDARIES AND RED COULD BE THE ENTRANCE AND EXITS.
I BELIEVE THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN IN STANDSTILL FOR SOME TIME.
FOLLOW UP WITH WILL AND VICTORIA.
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE LOOK AROUND FOR SITES ACCESSIBILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS AS A POSSIBLE DISCUSSION FOR AN AGENDA ITEM.
I CC TRAVIS AND THE CHIEF AS WELL FOR ANY FEEDBACK.
SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY OUT THERE TO SAY MICHAEL, TOBIAS HAS BEEN AGAINST AN ANIMAL SHELTER THIS WHOLE TIME FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS.
AND WHEN WE FINALLY HAD THAT DISCUSSION, IT WAS DURING THE WORKSHOP, BUT RIGHT AFTER THAT, BEFORE WE EVEN WENT PAST FURTHER, I BELIEVE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT A TREE AND SO FORTH AND OTHER THINGS.
AND IT KIND OF GOT SIDETRACKED.
SO THIS GOES BACK TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO ABOUT ME, MYSELF TAKING THE RESPONSIBILITY, FINDING SOLUTIONS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT AN ANIMAL SHELTER BECAUSE I SEE THE NEED FOR IT.
SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO EVER CRITICIZE ME OR, OR CONDONE ME THAT I HAVEN'T DONE MY PART.
'CAUSE I STARTED TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
AND I KNOW I SAY IT SOUNDS A LITTLE CYNICAL SAYING, UH, AGAIN, THERE WAS ANOTHER EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT NOT TOO LONG AGO AS WELL, AND IT HAPPENED TO BE VERY UPDATED.
UM, ACTUALLY JUST THIS PAST WEEK.
IT'S BEEN OVER SINCE TWO MONTHS NOW SINCE THE COUNCIL AGREED TO PARTNER WITH THE MOU, WITH THE CITY OF BUTA AND HAYES COUNTY ON A FUTURE ANIMAL SHELTER.
I'M ASKING STRAIGHT UP, WHERE'S THE CITY'S CURRENT POSITION, INCLUDING ANY ACCURATE FUNDING ON THIS AGREEMENT, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA COST US MONEY.
IT'S GONNA COST US MONEY NO MATTER WHAT IT IS.
WHOEVER, WHETHER WE PARTNER WITH WHOEVER I SPECIFICALLY ASKED, LAST CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HELD BETWEEN BUTTA AND THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO BE YET? OKAY, WHO ARE THE NAMES AND THE TIMES AND LOCATIONS WHEN THE CONVERSATIONS WERE HELD, ANY NEW ALTERNATIVE OR SECOND POSSIBLE LOCATIONS CONSIDERED? AND NUMBER FOUR, THE TIMELINE, IF ANY, ON MOVING FORWARD FROM A CITY STANDPOINT.
AND I PUT IN THERE OVERALL, WHERE ARE WE IN REAL TIME WITH THIS PROJECT? I CAN BRING AS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, AGAIN, REFERENCING THIS PROJECT FOR THE NEXT MEETING IF NEEDED.
BUT I THINK WE GOT DIRECTION JUST THIS WEEK THAT IT'S GOING.
THESE ITEMS ARE GONNA BE BROUGHT FORTH, I BELIEVE IN AUGUST, CORRECT SIR? YES.
SO WE'RE GONNA FINALLY HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.
SO I NEED PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT COURTNEY GZA, MYSELF, MEDINA, AND YVONNE AND EVERYBODY HERE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND, WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A CRISIS AT THAT SAN MARCUS ANIMAL SHELTER.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A NEED FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER.
HOW WE TEAM UP WITH THE COUNTY OR BUTA? HAVE WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS YET AT ALL? AND IF WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T.
AND IF THEY SAY WE'RE NO LONGER DEALING WITH YOU GUYS ANYMORE,
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THEN SO BE IT.THEN WE NEED TO TAKE THE TORCH AND CARRY IT FROM THERE.
BUT I NEED FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, WE ARE NOT SLOWING DOWN.
BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION OF GETTING A RESOLUTION ADOPTED FOR THIS KYLE VISTA PROPERTY.
DISCUSSION, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY.
UM, I'M NOT FUNDAMENTALLY OPPOSED TO DEDICATING IT STRICTLY FOR PARK USE, BUT UH, WITH A PRESENTATION COMING AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION ON ANYTHING BEFORE A PRESENTATION'S BEEN MADE.
YEAH, THIS IS, SO THE ORDINANCE IS GONNA COME BACK.
WE'RE NOT APPROVING THIS RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S GONNA COME BACK TO US AND THEN WE'RE GONNA VOTE FOR IT.
THIS IS FOR STAFF TO BRING IT BACK.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TODAY? TODAY WE'RE JUST ASKING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND THE ATTORNEY TO BRING BACK A RESOLUTION THAT REPEALS THE RES UH, THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION.
BUT TECHNICALLY A CHAPTER 26 SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE.
SO THEY'RE GONNA ALSO BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE TO SAY THIS IS DEDICATED PARKLAND.
WITHOUT THAT, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE 30TH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST PROCESS OR NOT.
I MEAN, THAT I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT VOTING TO DO IT.
WE'RE VOTING TO HAVE THEM BRING IT BACK SO THEN WE CAN MAKE A VOTE.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT HAVING THEM BRING IT BACK AFTER WE HEAR THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE THEN WE'D HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT MEETING TO BRING THAT ORDINANCE BACK.
SO IF WE COULD JUST, WE WOULD HAVE THIS, WE WOULD'VE THE PRESENTATION BEFORE THIS.
AND IF WE LOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE NEED FOR THE RUSH.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, WE WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW ON THAT SPACE, UH, UNDER, EXCEPT FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS.
THERE'S KIND OF A RUSH ON THAT.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF BEEN PUT ON PAUSE BECAUSE OF THE, THE MOU.
NO, I DON'T THINK THE ANIMAL SHELTER WAS PUT ON PAUSE.
SO THE M MO THE, WE HAVE AN ILA WITH THE, WE DON'T HAVE AN MOU, WE HAVE AN ILAA.
SO WE'RE SAYING YES, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
WE'RE NOT SAYING NO ANIMAL SHELTER.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING, I THINK PEOPLE ARE CONVOLUTED THE TWO ISSUES.
SO THE DEDICATED PARKLAND IS ONE AND THEN ANOTHER AS, UH, COMMISSIONER WALT SMITH SAID WE HAVE AN ILA.
IT DOESN'T SAY WHERE IT HAS TO BE.
WELL, I THINK BEFORE WE HAMSTRING, UH, FUTURE COUNCILS, WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE THAT WILL BE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER SAVADA, I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENTS OF COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY IN THAT WE HAVE THIS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW, AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO THE SIZE OF THE TRACKS BECAUSE KYLE VISTA PARK IS COMPRISED OF THREE DIFFERENT TRACKS.
AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE MAPS FOR THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE CURRENT ANIMAL SHELTER, IT SITS ON THE SMALLEST PIECE OF TRACK WITHIN THOSE THREE TRACKS OF LAND.
SO YOU HAVE TWO TRACKS THAT COMPOSE THE REMAINING 85% OF THAT LAND THAT ARE COMPLETELY OPEN.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, OF MY BELIEF, WHY COULDN'T WE BUILD AN ANIMAL SHELTER AND A RECREATIONAL CENTER ON THAT SAME PIECE OF LAND SO THAT WE CAN ALSO INTEGRATE, UH, SERVICES BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND HAVE A SORT OF REHABILITATION, UM, FOR, UH, YOUNG KIDS BEING ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND WHATNOT AND HAVE IT BE A MORE WELL BALANCED COMMUNITY FOCUSED AREA.
SO THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION AS TO THE SIZE OF THIS AND THE LOCATION OF THIS, BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT, I, I WENT OUT THERE AND FROM THE CLOSEST PROPERTY, THE, THE CLOSEST BACK OF SOMEONE'S YARD, IT IS 0.6 MILES AWAY FROM WHERE THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS PROPOSED AND IT'S ACROSS A PIECE OF LAND ON ANOTHER SIDE OF A STREET.
AND I'VE LOOKED UP AND DONE MY RESEARCH AS TO WHETHER OR NOT, LIKE WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE BECAUSE I DO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY, WHETHER THAT BE SMELL, SIGHT SOUND, I, I WAS CONSIDERING ALL OF THAT.
AND THERE HAS BEEN THOROUGH EVIDENCE PUT OUT CONSISTENTLY NATIONALLY AND USED ACROSS THE STATE AS WELL AS THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER FACILITIES BUILT IN NEIGHBORHOODS, ACTUALLY QUITE LITERALLY.
UM, AND THERE ARE WAYS IN WHICH YOU DESIGN THESE FACILITIES SO THAT WAY THEY'RE INSULAR.
AND SO YOU CAN'T REALLY HEAR OR SMELL OR SEE A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WOULD THEREFORE CONSIDER IT A
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NUISANCE.SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE JUST HAD A TRAIN PASS OUTSIDE DURING THE MIDDLE OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
THAT TRAIN ACTUALLY PUTS OFF MORE SOUND THAN AN ANIMAL SHELTER DOES.
AND WE COULD HEAR EVERYTHING HAPPENING CLEARLY IN HERE AND BARELY HEARD THE TRAIN PASSING OUTSIDE.
SO THERE ARE WAYS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO APPROACH THE BUILDING OF THIS ANIMAL CENTER, AN ANIMAL CENTER IN A WAY THAT SATISFIES THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS.
AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT IT IS ALSO WITHIN OUR ABILITY BECAUSE THE EAST CAMPUS IS NO LONGER GOING THERE.
AND THAT WAS GOING ON THE LARGEST TRACT OF LAND.
WE CAN MAKE A RECREATIONAL CENTER THERE AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE INTEGRATIVE SERVICES SO THAT WAY KIDS HAVE THE ABILITY TO REHABILITATE WITH ANIMALS AND, AND GO OUT AND WALK THEM TOGETHER.
I CAN SEE THAT BEING A BEAUTIFUL PARTNERSHIP YOU BRING HAS CISD IN.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GREAT FOR US TO HAVE.
HOWEVER, PUSHING THIS ITEM SO THAT WAY IT IS OCCURRING THAT WE RECEIVE A REPORT CON, WHICH WAS BROUGHT FORTH, WHICH WILL CONSIDER THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY, ALL OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, PLA BEING PLACED ON CERTAIN TRACKS BECAUSE IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEED RESTRICTIONS DON'T APPLY MAYBE PERHAPS TO THE PIECE OF TRACK THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY BOUGHT.
UM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THAT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE THIS PRESENTATION ON, I GUESS JULY 30TH NOW.
SO WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE THAT PRESENTATION.
COUNSEL WILL RECEIVE ALL OF THE FACTS AS CLEAR AS DAY.
RESIDENTS WILL RECEIVE ALL THE FACTS CLEAR AS DAY.
AND THEN THAT EXACT SAME DAY BEFORE WE'RE ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY FURTHER DIVE DEEPER AND REQUEST FOLLOW UP INFORMATION.
WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO MAKE A DECISION ON AN ORDINANCE THAT EXACT SAME DAY, NOT ALLOWING ANYONE TO PROPERLY VET AND UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT EXIST, THE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS THAT EXIST, WHAT LEGALLY DO WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY AND WHAT WE DON'T.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RESPONDING AND LISTENING.
AND I DO HEAR RESIDENTS, I AM LISTENING.
TRUST ME, I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE BEST BALANCE THIS AND HOW WE ANSWER THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD.
HOWEVER, PUSHING AND FORCING THE HANDS OF COUNSEL BY BRINGING THIS AGENDA ITEM UP TO MAKE A DECISION THE EXACT SAME TIME THAT WE ARE BARELY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US LEARNING ALL THE EXACT SAME FOUNDATIONAL FACTS IS A HASTY DECISION.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE DO, BECAUSE STAFF HAS ALREADY PREPARED THIS PRESENTATION, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE DO, WE ALLOW NOT ONLY COUNCIL, BUT RESIDENTS ENOUGH TIME TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE PUT FORTH BEFORE US.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? I AGREE THAT THIS PARTICULAR ACTION, UM, IS, SHOULD BE DELAYED.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE DEEDS ON THE PROPERTY IF THEY'RE DIFFERENTLY DEEDED.
I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW THAT I WOULD HE HESITATE TO DELAY THE ANIMAL SHELTER AT ANY POINT.
UM, THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO DELAY IT, UM, EVEN BEFORE THE MAYOR WAS ON THE COUNCIL.
UM, AND WE CHOSE NOT TO DELAY IT.
I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED WITH THE EFFORT TO ASSURE THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
UM, NOTTER, NOT OPPOSED IF WE FIND THAT, UH, THE VISTA PROPERTY IS NOT THE BEST RESOURCE.
WE HAD A STUDY DONE, UM, PROFESSIONALLY THAT, UM, LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, FIVE AND THEN NARROWED IT TO THREE.
AND THIS WAS, UM, DEEMED TO BE THE BEST OPTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, FOR THE PROPERTY AND FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WORK THAT WAS, UM, STUDIED.
THE TRAFFIC WAS STUDIED, WHERE IT WAS, WAS STUDIED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE DEEDS WERE STUDIED BECAUSE I HAD NEVER HEARD THIS BROUGHT UP BEFORE.
UM, AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO STUDY THOSE DEEDS AS WELL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS DELAYED, UH, NOT VOTE ON IT THIS EVENING.
ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILMAN MEDINA.
SO COULD I GET CLARIFICATION ON WHAT EXCLUSIVELY FOR PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES WOULD BE? IS THAT RECREATIONAL OUTDOOR STRICTLY RECREATIONAL OR IS THAT GOING TO CONSIST OF SOMETHING LOOKING LIKE AN INDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER, COMMUNITY TYPE CENTER FOR INDOOR RECREATION OR JUST NO INDOOR BUILDINGS WHATSOEVER? YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE? YEAH.
LIKE WHEN YOU'RE SAYING IT'S OFFICIAL PARK LAND DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY FOR PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES, DOES THAT MEAN NO BUILDINGS PERIOD? JUST HAVE RECREATION IS FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH, THERE ARE COMMERCIAL, UM, LIMITATIONS ON IT.
SO YOU CANNOT PUT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING
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ON THERE.UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT FALLS AS FAR AS RECREATIONAL.
UM, LIKE FOR, FOR SOME REASON IF THERE'S LIKE A-Y-M-C-A, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD FALL 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE TECHNICALLY PAR PARKS AND REC.
UM, BUT THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING FOR LIKE THE COUNTY CAMPUS THAT WAS ACTUALLY WENT AGAINST THE DEEDS AND UH, TO ADDRESS NO, YOU GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE VOTED ON THIS RESOLUTION IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING JUST A GIGANTIC PARK AND NOT THE ABILITY TO BUILD A RECREATION CENTER INDOORS FOR OUR KIDS TO COME IN AND PLAY, SHOULD WE END UP MOVING FORWARD AND NOT HAVE A ANIMAL SERVICES THERE? WE CAN LET AMY ANSWER THAT.
SO IF AND WHEN THIS COUNCIL DECIDES TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE CAN INCLUDE THE POTENTIAL IS IT'S A RECREATION CENTER IS TYPICALLY CONSIDERED A PARKS AND REC USE UNDER CHAPTER 26, IT'S CONSIDERED A PARKS AND REC USE.
IT'S A RECREATIONAL USE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S TYPICALLY CONSIDERED A PARK USE, BUT IF COUNCIL WANTS IT TO BE OUTDOORS, COUNCIL NEEDS TO INCLUDE THAT.
IF THEY WANT THE REC CENTER SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED, THEY'RE WELCOME TO INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.
AND AS A REMINDER, OUR CITIES DID SPEND $1 MILLION IN LIKE 2016 TO DEVELOP A SPORTSPLEX PLAN IN THAT AREA.
AND I'VE SINCE ASKED WHERE THAT SPORTSPLEX PLAN IS AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE IT'S AT.
SO YES, IT, IT GOES TO SHOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LONG-TERM PLAN IN THIS AREA TO PUT A SPORTS OR TO PUT SOME KIND OF RECREATIONAL OVER THERE.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, JUST ONE CLARIFICATION.
GOVERNMENTAL USE AND COMMERCIAL USE ARE NOT THE SAME THING.
WELL, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GOVERNMENTAL ZONING.
NO, BUT GOVERNMENTAL USE AND, AND COMMERCIAL USE ARE NOT THE SAME THING.
BUT UNDER ZONING YOU WOULD HAVE TO ZONE IT AS COMMERCIAL.
THERE IS NO GOVERNMENTAL, ME AND COUNCIL MEMBER GOZA HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND THERE IS NO, PER SE, GOVERNMENTAL ZONING.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD GO AROUND IT WITH COMMERCIAL OR NOT COMMERCIAL.
SO THIS IS ALL INCLUDED IN OUR PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD.
THE DEED RESTRICTION IS A USED RESTRICTION, NOT A ZONING RESTRICTION.
SO IT MAY BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY.
UM, AND ALSO IT'S NOT JUST THE DEEDS.
THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT SOME OF THAT LAND WAS TO BE USED.
I THINK ALL OF IT WAS DONATED.
SO I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ADA SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE CITY PURCHASED IT.
I THINK ALL OF IT WAS DONATED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
NO, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT CORRECT.
THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE PARCEL THAT WAS PURCHASED WITH CITY FUND.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE THAT ONE WAS? I WILL BE IN THE PRESENTATION.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT WAS.
IT WAS NOT THE COUNTY BUILDING.
THE COUNTY BUILDING WAS THE ONE THAT WAS DONATED UNDER THE DA WHERE THE COUNTY BUILDING WAS GONNA GO.
THE OTHER TWO WERE ACQUIRED A DIFFERENT WAY AND ONE OF THEM WAS PURCHASED AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE'S WHICH.
I KNOW ONE WAS GIVEN TO US IN LIEU OF PARK FEES, AND THAT'S TECHNICALLY NOT IN A DEED, THAT'S IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO IT WAS, THERE WAS A DEED, THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE ONE THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO USE AND IS NOW NOT GOING TO USE.
THE OTHER TWO WERE ACQUIRED DIFFERENTLY.
AND AS I SAID, THERE, THERE ARE COUNCIL MINUTES AND A COUNCIL RESOLUTION TO PURCHASE ONE OF THEM THAT WILL BE IN THE PRESENTATION.
AM I, WOULD I BE CORRECT IN SAYING THE AREA, THE PLOT OF LAND THAT'S BEING USED FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS THE PLOT OF LAND THAT HAS THE ANIMAL NUISANCE RESTRICTION ON IT.
THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME DE RESTRICTIONS.
AGAIN, THAT WILL BE IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO ANYWAYS, AGAIN, FOR THOSE OF US WHO'VE DONE THIS EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH, UH, RESIDENT, UH, ROBERT HUNTER HAS DONE AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH.
IF ANYBODY'S READ HIS, UM, INFORMATION THAT HE PROVIDED TO US, IT'S, TO ME IT'S VERY CLEAR WHERE WE STAND.
I DON'T NEED A PRESENTATION, ALTHOUGH I WILL APPRECIATE IT.
UM, I WILL ASK, WHAT IF WE DECIDED IF WE PASS THIS TODAY, WE DO NOT HAVE TO STICK THIS, THE ORDINANCE ON THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT WE CAN PUT IT ON THE, THE ONE AFTER THAT.
AND SO THAT'LL GIVE US TIME TO, I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING THAT BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION IS ON SEVEN 30 AND ON 7 21.
SO WE'RE GONNA AT LEAST WANT TO HAVE IT AT A COUNCIL MEETING AFTER THAT PRESENTATION.
SO WE HAVE THE NEXT MEETING IN AUGUST.
SO IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THURSDAY, JULY 30TH, AND ON SATURDAY AUGUST 1ST, OR WE HAVE THE SPECIAL MEETING AUGUST 4TH, 6:00 PM WILL THE REST OF COUNCIL BE, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? SO I, IT DOESN'T GIVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME FOR DISCUSSION.
NO, IT IS ACTUALLY GIVES MORE TIME.
I MEAN THE, THE PLAN WAS TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT ONE AND YOU SAID YOU NEEDED MORE TIME, WHICH IS FINE, BUT WHICH IS THE 30TH COMING.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA GET A PRESENTATION ON THE 30TH AND YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THE FOURTH.
THAT IS LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE.
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED FOR US TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY JUST THEN YOU GIVE US A DATE? WELL, I THINK THE ISSUE IS 18.
YEAH, WE HAVE A MEETING THAT DAY.
I'D LIKE TO DO IT A REGULAR, AT A REGULAR MEETING.
AUGUST 18 IS THE REGULAR MEETING AND THEY MEETING
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FOURTH AND AUGUST.COUNCIL MEMBER SAPA, I THINK THE ISSUE IS THAT WE MAY RECEIVE THE PRESENTATION ON JULY 30TH BE PRESENTED WITH AN OPTION OR INFORMATION BECAUSE THAT, ALTHOUGH YOU SAY IT'S CLEAR AS DAY, YOU WERE CORRECTED HERE BY OUR ATTORNEY QUITE LITERALLY IN REAL TIME IN FRONT OF RESIDENTS.
SO IT'S NOT AS CLEAR AS DAY AS YOU WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT IT IS.
AND I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO OURSELVES TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THAT PRESENTATION, NOT COMPLETELY BIND OURSELVES TO AN OPTION THAT'S BEING PRESENTED RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE WHAT IF THAT PRESENTATION HAS DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE ALL SEE NEW INFORMATION THAT MAYBE HAS NOT BEEN PUT OUT THERE YET AND CLARIFICATION THAT WOULD THEN CHANGE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO DO THIS ORDINANCE IN PARTICULAR.
SO YOU WILL BE PIGEONHOLING AND MAKING THE DECISION ALREADY REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT PRESENTATION HAS BECAUSE IT THEN IT WOULD BE COMPETING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THIS WERE TO GET PUT ON THE AUGUST 4TH OR, OR THE NEXT AGENDA THAT WE HAVE COMING UP FOR IT, WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WAS DECIDED.
AND WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION ON JULY 30TH AND WE DETERMINE ACTUALLY WE LIKE ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT THAT STAFF IS BROUGHT FORWARD.
WE FIND THAT RESIDENTS DEEM IT WORKABLE.
WE FIND THAT WE CAN FIND A GOOD COMPROMISE.
IT WILL BE PLACED ON THE SAME AGENDA AS THIS ORDINANCE.
SO WE WILL HAVE TWO COMPETING AGENDA ITEMS. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO TRY AND RUSH THIS TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE SOLIDIFIED UNTIL WE HEAR AND LISTEN TO THAT PRESENTATION THAT THAT WILL BE GIVEN.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN THEN DECIDE TOGETHER WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE LAND MOVING FORWARD.
YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HAVING IT ON AUGUST 18TH.
SO YEAH, SO THE MEETING'S JULY 30TH, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY JUST SAID HE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE, BUT THAT DOESN'T THE ACTUAL ON AUGUST 18TH, PLEASE I HAVE THE FLOOR.
SO THAT GIVES US TWO WEEKS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO, IF IF IF ON JULY 30TH WE DECIDE WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE DON'T EVEN, WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND JUST DENY IT.
OR WE CAN NOT EVEN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS WE CAN DO.
IF THIS IS APPROVED TODAY, THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT, IT JUST MEANS THEY'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK AT SOME, SOME POINT.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST INTERVENE AND THEN THAT WAY I'LL BE JUST DONE.
SO TO MAKE THE COMP TO COMPROMISE AS COUNSELS, DO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMPROMISE ON THINGS? COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE TABLED THIS ITEM, THIS COMPLETE ITEM UNTIL AUGUST THE 18TH? I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD HURT ANYTHING.
HOW DOES THE REST OF THE COUNCIL FEEL ON THAT? 'CAUSE I'M WILLING TO COMPROMISE HERE.
WELL IF WE WAIT UNTIL THE 18TH AND WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT AGENDA OKAY.
SO WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT, IS THAT SEPTEMBER? NO, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT AUGUST 18TH WOULD BE THE SECOND ONE.
SO IF, SO IF, OKAY, EVERYBODY POST OUT YOUR CALCULATORS HERE.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET TILL THE END OF SEPTEMBER.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S AUGUST 18TH.
WE WILL NOT HAVE ANOTHER MEETING UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST.
SO IF WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THE 18TH WITH THE SAME AGENDA ITEM'S GONNA BE ON THE 18TH MM-HMM
AND THEN WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BRING AN ORDINANCE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST, AND THAT IS AFTER JULY 30TH, WHICH IS WHEN THEY'RE GONNA DO THEIR PRESENTATION.
SO I THINK WE VOTE TODAY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
I DON'T, I DON'T CARE HOW IT GOES.
AND THEN WIN OUR MOTION IF WE WANTED TO APPROVE IT OR YEAH, WE COULD SAY TO BRING IT BACK ON AUGUST 18TH, WHICH IS ALMOST 20 DAYS AFTER AUGUST OR JULY 30TH.
WE COULD DO THAT TO ASK THEM TO BRING BACK THE, THE ORDINANCE.
AND WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION ON THE 30TH.
GIVES EVERYBODY TWO TO THREE WEEKS TO DISSECT WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED ABOUT ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND WHO'S THE PLAYERS, THE FUNDING, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GONNA COME ALONG WITH IT.
SITE LOCATIONS IF THERE'S TO BE ANY DIFFERENT SITE LOCATIONS.
AND THEN ON THE 18TH, BY THAT TIME, WE WOULD HAVE A DECISION, UH, BECAUSE YOU'LL ALSO HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO WHERE YOU CAN DISCUSS OTHER ITEMS. AND THEN ON THE 18TH WE BRING BACK THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THIS.
YES OR NO? UH, I THINK A MONTH OF DISCUSSION ABOUT A A VERY PERMANENT DECISION ABOUT PUBLIC LAND, UH, IS, IS NOT UNREASONABLE.
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I I THINK THAT WE ARE RUSHING THINGS.UH, THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF UNTANGLING THAT THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE AND, AND I THINK EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED BEFORE WE MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME BACK ON THE 18TH AND THEN WE CAN MAKE THAT PERMANENT DECISION BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
ASIDE FROM WE GET MORE TIME TO DISCUSS WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND GET MORE FEEDBACK.
DIDN'T WE JUST TALK ABOUT THIS BEING LIKE A TWO YEAR PROJECT AND WE JUST NOW HAVE RESIDENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE FINDING OUT ABOUT IT.
WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING RUSHED.
I FEEL LIKE THIS, ALL THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SAID LAST YEAR IN SEPTEMBER.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS NOT PEOPLE ON HERE TO QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF THE CHAPTER 26 OR TO QUESTION THE DEEDS OR TO QUESTION THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
WE ARE NOT IN A ME AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE DON'T GET ANY ENJOYMENT OUTTA SAYING, HEY, WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE REGULAR PARKLAND BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE, IN MY OPINION, IT SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PARKLAND.
AND YES, I DID MAKE A MISTAKE, I DID GET ONE WRONG.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DEMORALIZE PEOPLE WHEN WE MAKE MISTAKES.
WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 18 AND HAVE STAFF BRING BACK ON AUGUST 18TH, THE RESOLUTION TO REPEAL, UH, RESOLUTION 1909 ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2025 REGARDING THE CHAPTER 26 DETERMINATION FOR KYLE VISTA PROPERTY AS WELL AS AN ORDINANCE IN ALL OTHER DOCUMENTS AND ACTIONS NECESSARY TO REAFFIRM AND REDEDICATE ALL CITY OWNED TRACKS COMPROMISING KYLE VISTA PARK AS AN OFFICIAL PARKLAND DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY FOR PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES.
OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBIAZ.
CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE.
I THINK WE NEED MORE TIME TO TALK WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
UP NEXT WE HAVE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
[19) Direct staff to bring back an updated engineering analyses, traffic studies, and evaluation methodologies for the proposed Kohlers Crossing Roundabouts within TIRZ No. 2, as well as the twelve proposed intersection improvement projects funded through the 2022 Road Bond Program, to include but is not limited to: updated Intersection Alternative Analyses utilizing current traffic data, projected growth, and objective engineering criteria prior to final design approval, bid letting, or construction authorization. Such analyses should include enhanced signalized traffic intersections with modern phasing, overlap phasing where warranted, optimized signal timing, radar detection, and camera-based detection.]
19 DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN UPDATED ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, TRAFFIC STUDIES AND EVALUATION MYTHOLOGIES FOR PROPOSED KOHLERS CROSSING ROUNDABOUTS WITHIN TOURS TWO, AS WELL AS THE 12 PROPOSED INTERSECTIONS IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FUNDED THROUGH THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM TO INCLUDE BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO.UPDATED INTERSECTION ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS, UTILIZING CURRENT TRAFFIC DATA, PROJECTED GROWTH AND OBJECTIVE ENGINEERING CRITERIA PRIOR TO FINAL DESIGN APPROVAL, BID LETTING OR CONSTRUCTION AUTHORIZATION.
SUCH ANALYSIS SHOULD INCLUDE ENHANCED SIGNALED TRAFFIC INTERSECTIONS WITH MODERN PHASING OVERLAPPING PHASING WE'RE WARRANTED.
OPTIMIZED SIGNAL TIMING, RADAR DETECTION, AND CAMERA BASED DETECTION.
THIS IS, UH, COUNCIL, UH, MAYOR PROAM TOBIAS.
AND MY ITEM, IF I MAY, I'M JUST GONNA START REAL QUICK.
UM, SO, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS SIMPLE.
BEFORE THE CITY SPENDS MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON TODAY'S CONDITION, NOT ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE NOW SEVERAL YEARS OLD.
SO IN 2023, THE CITY COMPLETED AN ENGINEERING STUDY THAT LOOKED AT IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE INTERSECTIONS AT SANDERS, BENNER AND CROMWELL DRIVE.
AT THE TIME, ENGINEERS STUDIED TWO OPTIONS, INSTALLING TRAFFIC SIGNALS OR BUILDING ROUNDABOUTS.
THEY RECOMMENDED ROUNDABOUTS, BUT ALSO CONCLUDED THAT TRAFFIC SIGNALS WOULD SAFELY HANDLE FUTURE TRAFFIC IF THE ROUNDABOUTS WERE TOO EXPENSIVE.
UM, I DO WANNA NOTE THAT I DID READ THE, UM, THE STUDY AND I'VE SENT IT TO SEVERAL RESIDENTS.
I ENCOURAGE ANYBODY THAT'S ON COUNCIL TO GO BACK AND READ THAT STUDY.
THAT IS ACTUALLY FROM 2022, UM, SINCE THAT STUDY WAS COMPLETED.
ONE, UH, IMPORTANT PIECE HAS CHANGED THE CITY PAUSE.
CROMWELL AFTER COORDINATION WITH TDOT, BECAUSE PLANNED FM 1626 IMPROVEMENTS COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE DESIGN AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF A ROUNDABOUT AT CROMWELL.
RATHER THAN SPEND MONEY ON A PROJECT THAT MAY NEED TO BE MODIFIED LATER, STAFF RECOMMENDED WAITING UNTIL TECH CORRIDOR PLANS ARE CLEARER.
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PLAN.THE STUDY EVALUATED ALL THREE INTERSECTIONS TOGETHER AS PART OF ONE CORRIDOR.
IF ONE OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS IS NO LONGER MOVING FORWARD AS A ROUNDABOUT, IT MAKES SENSE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE REMAINING INTERSECTIONS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION BEGINS.
THE SANDERS AND BENNER INTERSECTIONS ARE ALSO LOCATED BETWEEN TWO EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNALS TO TAXI HAYES TRAIL TO THE WEST AND F IN 1626 TO THE EAST.
BECAUSE VEHICLES MOVE THROUGH ALL OF THESE INTERSECTIONS TOGETHER, IT'S IMPORTANT TO EVALUATE HOW THEY FUNCTION AS ONE CORRIDOR INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT EACH INTERSECTION BY ITSELF.
THE TRUTH IS, AS TRAFFIC REACHES A CERTAIN NUMBER, ROUNDABOUTS WILL DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD.
THE ORIGINAL STUDY ALSO DESERVES ANOTHER LOOK BECAUSE IT RELIED ON TRAFFIC COUNTS COLLECTED IN 2022.
CARL HAS CONTINUED TO GROW SINCE THEN.
NEW HOMES, NEW BUSINESSES AND CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT HAVE LIKELY CHANGED TRAFFIC PATTERNS BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH A PROJECT THAT WILL SHAPE THIS CORRIDOR FOR DECADES.
THE CITY SHOULD COLLECT UPDATED TRAFFIC COUNTS AND VERIFY THAT THE ORIGINAL ASSUMPTIONS ARE STILL ACCURATE.
COST IS ANOTHER REASON TO UPDATE THIS ANALYSIS.
THE 2023 STUDY ESTIMATED THAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT SANDERS WOULD COST ABOUT $567,000.
WHILE A ROUNDABOUT WOULD COST $3.66 MILLION, A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT PRINTER WOULD COST ABOUT 617,000, WHILE A ROUNDABOUT WOULD COST $3.57 MILLION.
THIS IS IN THE TRAFFIC REPORT.
THOSE ESTIMATES DO NOT INCLUDE ALL RIGHT OF AWAY COSTS AND WERE PREPARED MORE THAN THREE YEARS AGO.
SINCE THEN, CONSTRUCTION COSTS, MATERIAL PRICES, AND UTILITY COSTS HAVE ALL INCREASED.
BEFORE COMMITTING TO A PROJECT THAT COULD COST $7 MILLION, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE UPDATED ESTIMATES THAT REFLECT TODAY'S MARKET.
THE ENGINEERING REPORT ALSO FOUND SOMETHING MANY PEOPLE DO NOT REALIZE.
THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC SIGNALS WERE DESIGNED WITH ROOM FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
ENGINEERS TESTED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF TRAFFIC INCREASED BEYOND THE PROJECTIONS AND FOUND THAT THE SIGNALIZE INTERSECTIONS STILL HAD ADDITIONAL CAPACITY BEFORE REACHING UNACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF CONGESTION.
THAT TELLS US THE SIGNAL OPTION DESERVES ANOTHER LOOK.
USING CURRENT TRAFFIC DATA, THIS AGENDA ITEM IS NOT INTENDED TO PROMOTE ONE TYPE OF INTERSECTION OVER ANOTHER.
INSTEAD IT ASKS THE CITY TO ANSWER AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
IF WE'RE MAKING THIS DECISION TODAY WITH TODAY'S TRAFFIC, TODAY'S COST, TODAY'S DEVELOPMENT AND TDOT'S DECISION ON CROMWELL, WOULD WE MAKE THE SAME RECOMMENDATION? THAT IS A FAIR QUESTION AND ONE THAT DESERVES AN UPDATED ENGINEERING ANALYSIS BEFORE FINAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION MOVE FORWARD.
FOR THESE REASONS, WE ARE ASKING THAT STAFF UPDATE THE ENGINEERING ANALYSIS FOR SANDERS AND RENNER INTERSECTIONS USING CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNTS, UPDATED DEVELOPMENT INFORMATION, CURRENT CONSTRUCTION, AND RIGHT OF WAY COSTS AND REVISED CORRIDOR CONDITIONS.
THE UPDATED STUDIES SHOULD OBJECTIVELY COMPARE ROUNDABOUTS AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS SO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC CAN DECIDE BASED ON THE BEST INFORMATION AVAILABLE TODAY.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MAYOR PROM.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN A NUTSHELL WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO BASICALLY GET MORE UPDATED INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY IN THESE AREAS.
I HEAR BOTH SIDES, THE NEED FOR THE ROUNDABOUTS FOR THE AREA.
BUT I ALSO SEE THE ISSUE WHENEVER YOU HAVE THESE ROUNDABOUTS, HOW TRAFFIC GET BACKED UP.
'CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM FIVE TO 10 YEARS FROM NOW, BUT THEN AGAIN, THE ROAD BOND WAS PASSED, WHAT, ALMOST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE 2001, ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO.
SO I'M PRETTY SURE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ALREADY THE POPULATION HAS GROWN, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA.
UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS TO GET A MORE UPDATED ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, ESPECIALLY IN THESE HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS.
UM, JUST WHEN I WENT BY MARKETPLACE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS THE IDEA OF, OF A ROUNDABOUT GOING RIGHT THERE, AND I SEEN ALL THOSE BIG TRUCKS FROM AMAZON JUST FLYING DOWN THERE.
I'M THINKING, OKAY, IS THAT REALLY GONNA SLOW DOWN THESE GUYS TO 20 MILES AN HOUR TO GO AROUND THOSE BIG OLD TRUCK, THOSE TRUCKS RIDING THOSE CARS? MM-HMM
BUT YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS NOT IN, NOT USED TO THAT AREA, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COULD IT LEAD TO? SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
EVERYBODY IS, IS, IS WANTING THESE ROUNDABOUTS, IT'S GONNA HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW ON THAT END.
IT'S JUST BASICALLY DIRECTING STAFF JUST TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT ONE MORE TIME AND, AND WHEN WE GET THESE THINGS GOING, WE ARE COMFORTABLE IF WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS OR IF THERE IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT ON THAT END.
DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER SABATA,
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ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP, WE DISCUSSED AT OUR JUNE 13TH COUNCIL MEETING IN WHICH WE DISCUSSED THESE VERY TWO ROUNDABOUTS.UM, UH, MIKE TRIMBLE, OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION, CLARIFIED THAT TDOT DOES NOT GET INVOLVED, UM, ON THE ROUNDABOUTS THAT ARE AT, UH, SANDERS AND BENNER BECAUSE THEN THEY WILL INHERIT LIABILITY AND WHATNOT.
AND YES, THEY MOVED FORWARD AND STAFF FOUND THE RECOMMENDATION TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CROMWELL ROUNDABOUT.
SO THAT WAS ALREADY SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO THERE ARE REASONS WHY TECH DOT DOES NOT GET INVOLVED ANY FURTHER THAN THAT ALONGSIDE WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, PLANS DRAWN UP AT OR, UH, AREAS IN WHICH THEY HAVE CURRENT JURISDICTION OVER.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, OUR OWN IN-HOUSE ENGINEER ALI, UM, CAME UP HERE AND ANSWERED EVERY SINGLE QUESTION AND STATED THAT, UH, BASED ON THE REPORT AND HER KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE THAT SHE RECOMMENDED THESE ROUNDABOUTS AS BEING THE SAFEST, BEST IMPROVEMENTS AND FOR PROJECTED GROWTH, NOT JUST CURRENT GROWTH.
UM, I JUST FIND IT SO CONFUSING AS TO WHY WE'RE DEBATING THIS NOW, WHEN WHAT, TWO HOURS AGO WHEN OUR TS TWO MEETINGS, THIS ENTIRE BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY, ALL OF US SITTING UP HERE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO CONTINUE ACTUALLY FUNDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE TWO ROUNDABOUTS.
AND THEN IN THE CONSENT AGENDA, THAT WAS ACTUALLY TODAY, THERE WAS AN AGENDA ITEM ON THERE ALSO TO CONTINUE FUNDING AND SUPPORTING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE ROUNDABOUTS.
SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING AS TO HOW YOU COULD GO FROM APPROVING FUNDS TO CONTINUE BUILDING THESE ROUNDABOUTS WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY NOW BRINGING UP AN AGENDA ITEM AND SAYING THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THEM WHEN THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT REPORT AFTER REPORT STUDY AFTER STUDY SHOWING THAT THESE ROUNDABOUTS AT THESE TWO INTERSECTIONS ARE THE BEST OPTIONS FOR US.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE AMOUNT AND COSTS ACTUALLY COMING IN UNDER THE TOTAL PROJECTED PROJECT BUDGET FOR ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE TS TWO AREA WAS ORIGINALLY 25 MILLION WE'RE COMING IN AT AROUND 17 MILLION OR SO BECAUSE AS STAFF, UM, EXPLAINED IN THE TS TWO MEETING THAT HAPPENED RIGHT BEFORE THIS, AS THEY CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ALONG THESE PLANS, THEY ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO ADJUST NUMBERS AND ACTUALLY SAVE US MONEY ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE ROUNDABOUTS.
AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE COST OF A LIFE.
THERE IS A MOVIE THAT WAS PUT OUT IN 2020 ABOUT THE SEPTEMBER 11TH VICTIM COMPENSATION FUND CALLED, CALLED WORTH, UH, STARRING MICHAEL KEATON, STANLEY TUCCI.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FILM, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH THE IDEA OF WHAT IS THE COST OF A HUMAN LIFE.
THAT IS THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW.
IF ROUNDABOUTS ARE THE SAFEST NATIONALLY AND ARE CONSISTENTLY RECOMMENDED AS BEING THE THINGS THAT WILL SAVE LIVES BECAUSE PEOPLE RUN RED LIGHTS, THEY RUN YELLOW LIGHTS, THEY RUN STOP SIGNS ALL THE TIME, THEY FORGET THAT THEY'RE THERE.
IF THIS CAN SAVE ONE LIFE, WE'RE COMING IN UNDER BUDGET AND OUR STAFF IS ALWAYS FINDING WAYS TO SAVE US MONEY.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST OPTION FOR US AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR KIDS.
FOR THOSE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS.
AT THE JUNE 13TH MEETING, IT WAS ALSO MADE CLEAR TO US FROM OUR OWN IN-HOUSE ENGINEER THAT THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS WERE GOING TO HAVE, UM, THE BEACONS, THE PUSH BUTTONS LIGHTING IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SAFER.
THERE WAS GOING TO BE LARGER MEDIANS IN BETWEEN, UM, UH, WHICH ARE CALLED REFUGE ISLANDS, I BELIEVE, UM, IN ORDER TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT STUDENTS THAT USE THAT AREA A LOT CAN DO SO SAFELY, UM, IN THE, AS FOR THE CONCERNS WITH THE LARGER 18 WHEELERS, ONCE AGAIN IN THE TS TWO BOARD MEETING THAT HAPPENED JUST ABOUT THREE HOURS AGO NOW, UH, MAYOR PROAM TOBIAS HAD THE EXACT SAME QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT 18 WHEELERS SLOWED DOWN AND OUR STAFF EXPERTS SAID THAT YES, THAT THE STUDIES ALSO INCLUDED, UH, THE, WHETHER OR NOT 18 WHEELERS IN LARGER VEHICLES AND FIRE TRUCKS AND WHATNOT WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE, UH, THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUTS SAFELY.
SO ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT ARE THE EXACT ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED ON JUNE 13TH WHEN ALL OF US UNANIMOUSLY SAID, OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD.
SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO HEAR.
AND SO I'M SO CONFUSED AS TO WHY.
NOW WE ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN REFUTING THAT WHEN WE JUST HAD THIS DISCUSSION ON JUNE 13TH
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AND THOSE ISSUES WERE SOLVED AND ANSWERED FOR NOT ONLY THROUGH THE REPORTS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO US, BUT THROUGH WERE OUR OWN IN-HOUSE EXPERTS.OKAY, MS. MEDINA, COUNCILOR MEDINA.
SO I WON'T SPEAK FOR THE MAYOR, I WON'T SPEAK FOR MAYOR PRO TIM.
UM, YES, WE DID VOTE TO APPROVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, BUT YES, CONSIDERING REPORTS WERE DONE TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, PRESENTATION WAS PROVIDED TO US BASED ON REPORTS DONE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO BY SAYING WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE UPDATED ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, TRAFFIC STUDIES AND SO ON.
DOESN'T SAY WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ROUNDABOUTS THAT JUST SAYS WE WOULD LIKE UPDATED INFORMATION CONSIDERING POPULATION TRAFFIC.
EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED IN THOSE TWO TO THREE YEARS THAT WE WANNA KNOW THIS IS STILL THE RIGHT PROCESS TO FOLLOW.
UM, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S BEEN MORE THAN ONE ROUNDABOUT THAT HAS BEEN DEEMED RIGHT WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT UP AND THEN CHANGED LATER THAT IT WAS NO LONGER THE BEST AND SAFE, MOST VIABLE OPTION FOR THAT AREA.
UM, SO AGAIN, NOT SPEAKING FOR THEM, BUT FOR MYSELF, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR FOR HAVING THESE ANALYSIS BROUGHT BACK TO US SO THAT WE KNOW THIS IS STILL THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT MOVE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE RIGHT OPTIONS FOR OUR CITY.
UM, AND THE SAFEST BECAUSE WE DO WANT SAFE, WE DO HAVE SCHOOLS IN THAT AREA.
WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE PILING INTO THAT PAC CENTER FOR ACTIVITIES AND FOR CONCERTS, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR KIDS ARE SAFE COMING OUTTA THESE AREAS.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS? YEAH, SINCE WE'VE ALREADY PASSED THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS BEING BROUGHT BACK AS THIS ITEM.
UM, THE ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BEEN WIDELY STUDIED WHEN THEY WERE ENGINEERED ORIGINALLY, UM, THEY HAD A WIDE LATITUDE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THEY WOULD HANDLE.
UM, AND WE HAD ESTIMATED WHAT THE TRAFFIC FLOW WOULD BE, HOW MUCH VEHICLES WOULD BE THERE.
UH, RIGHT NOW THE FOUR-WAY STOP IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
UH, WE DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE RUN LIGHTS AS WELL.
THEY RUN WITH THAT FOUR WAY ALL THE TIME.
UM, AND THIS JUST DELAYS, UH, WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PROCESS.
WE HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT THE, UM, EASEMENTS.
THE UTILITIES ARE ALREADY BEING UNDERGROUNDED.
THERE IS NO REASON TO STOP THESE ROUNDABOUTS AT THIS POINT.
THEY MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF SENSE.
THEY WILL SAVE LIVES, THEY WILL SAVE, UM, ACCIDENT COSTS BECAUSE IT'S VERY RARE TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT IN A ROUNDABOUT.
AND IF IT IS, IT'S, IT'S A VERY MINOR ONE, UM, IT WILL HANDLE THE TRAFFIC.
UM, AND IT WILL BE A SAFE CROSSING FOR THE KIDS, WHICH RIGHT NOW DON'T HAVE A SAFE CROSSING AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LIGHT WILL HELP THAT MUCH.
I, BUT I DO THINK THE ROUNDABOUTS WILL, UM, AND ALL OF OUR ROUNDABOUTS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED WITH PEDESTRIANS IN MIND AS WELL.
I THINK IT IS UNNECESSARY AND, UM, WE'RE DUPLICATING EFFORTS.
UH, I THINK, UH, THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF THINGS THAT I CAN POINT OUT.
ONE THAT, UH, A TWO OR 3-YEAR-OLD STUDY IS NOT EXACTLY OLD AS FAR AS TRAFFIC STUDIES GO.
UH, IF WE'RE GONNA PAUSE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE EVERY TWO YEARS FOR AN UPDATED STUDY, YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH DIRT ROADS AND THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GONNA HAVE.
YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO FINISH A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
UH, I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT WHY THE, UH, THE KOHLERS AND CROMWELL ROUNDABOUT WAS, WAS REMOVED AND IT WAS BECAUSE BASICALLY T DOT DOES NOT KNOW YET WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO AT THE KOHLERS AND 1626 INTERSECTION.
ALTHOUGH I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY TIME, MY TIME ON THE CAMPO BOARD THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS OF THEM PUTTING A ROUNDABOUT THERE.
THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN FAR ENOUGH YET BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT PASSED FUNDING FOR A FINAL DESIGN STUDY.
WE MISSED THAT ON THIS YEAR'S, UH, APPROVAL LIST BY LITERALLY ONE ITEM.
UH, AUSTIN ALMOST MESSED UP AND HAD ONE OF THEIRS REMOVED AND IT WAS GONNA GET BUMPED IN, AND I GOT REAL EXCITED FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND THEN THEY BACKED UP.
BUT, UH, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY PUT A ROUNDABOUT THERE AND THEN IT DOES BECOME APPROPRIATE AGAIN AT THAT TIME.
UM, IF THEY PUT A LIGHTED INTERSECTION THERE OR I'LL ADJUST THE LIGHTED INTERSECTION THERE, IT STILL MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S KIND OF BEEN, UH, OMITTED IN THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, AND, AND, UH, FOR THE LIFE OF
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ME, I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE CAN HAVE FACT-BASED INFORMATION CONSISTENTLY GIVEN TO THEM AND STILL REFUSE TO ACCEPT THOSE RESULTS.EVERY STUDY ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS SAYS THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY SAFER, THAT THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC MITIGATION, THAT THEY'RE, UH, MORE FUEL EFFICIENT WHENEVER YOU'RE DRIVING.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU I CANNOT LEAVE MY HOUSE WITHOUT HITTING A ROUNDABOUT.
I'VE GOT, I CAN HIT FOUR OF 'EM WITH A ROCK LITERALLY FROM MY FRONT YARD.
AND I WILL TELL YOU WHEN I HAVE TO COME TO A STOP SIGN, IT IRRITATES ME.
NOW, UH, ONCE YOU GET USED TO ROUNDABOUTS, THAT FEAR GOES AWAY AND YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THEY OPERATE AND YOU ARE EXCITED TO COME TO THEM.
UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP YOUR HEARTS AND MINDS A LITTLE BIT SOMETIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER STORMS HIT, ROUNDABOUTS STILL WORK WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT, LIGHT AND INTERSECTIONS DO NOT, AND WHEN IT COMES RIGHT DOWN TO IT, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH YOURSELF IF YOU PUT A LIGHTED INTERSECTION AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS, SOMEBODY RAN A RED LIGHT, GOT T-BONED AND KILLED BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY TO PUT A SAFER OPTION THERE.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS NOT PAID FOR BY GENERAL FUND DOLLARS.
IT'S PAID FOR BY T TWO, WHICH IS LITERALLY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA WHO HAVE BEEN CLAMORING HERE ALL NIGHT ABOUT HOW GREAT THESE THINGS ARE AND HOW MUCH THEY WANT THEM.
THEY'RE THE ONES PAYING FOR IT.
IT'S NOT THE WHOLE REST OF THE CITY.
SO, ALL RIGHT, WELL, T TWO IS A 50%, SO, UM, IT'S NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT, AND, AND WITH THAT, RIGHT, THE COUNTY'S PARTICIPATING TOO.
DID YOU, DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO READ THE REPORT, THE 2023 REPORT FOR 2022? YES, I DID.
SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IT SAID REGARDING, UM, THE SAFETY, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SAFETY BETWEEN THE LIGHTS AND THE ROUNDABOUTS? UH, MAN, I DIDN'T READ IT TODAY.
SO, SO WHAT I'M GONNA SAY IS WHAT IT SAYS IT'S THE SAME IS THE SAFETY WITH THE LIGHTS AND THE SAFETY WITH THE ROUNDABOUT.
IT DOES SAY, AND IF YOU'D LIKE A COPY, I WILL GLADLY GIVE IT TO ANYBODY WHO ASKS.
THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE THE, THE, NOW IN GENERAL, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS IN GENERAL, THAT'S ONE THING I GET.
I, I AM THE ONE WHO MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ROUNDABOUT ORDINANCE BACK IN 20 21, 20 22.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO ROUNDABOUTS.
MY CONCERN IS PUTTING A $3 MILLION ROUNDABOUT IN AN AREA THAT CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT TRAFFIC LONG TERM, AND THEN WE HAVE TO TEAR IT OUT AND PUT A STOPLIGHT IN.
BECAUSE LONG TERM, A ROUNDABOUT IS NOT MEANT FOR HIGH TRAFFIC.
AND SO WHY WOULD WE SPEND $3.5 MILLION? AND AGAIN, UH, I THINK THE OTHER ONE WAS LIKE $3.2 MILLION.
WHY ARE WE WILLING TO SPEND ALMOST $8 MILLION IF IN THE LONG TERM WE HAVE TO PUT A LIGHT? I THINK IT WOULD BE SAFER TO PUT A LIGHT OR TO AT LEAST AT MINIMUM, TO ANOTHER, THE, THE TRAFFIC SURVEY REPORT, SOMETHING UPDATED TO FIGURE OUT DOES THAT, DOES THAT SUSTAIN? AND IF I TOLD EVERYBODY HERE THE SAFETY WAS EXACTLY THE SAME, THE SAFETY WAS EXACTLY THE SAME, WOULD YOU STILL VOTE FOR A ROUNDABOUT OVER A LIGHT? IS THE QUESTION.
AND IF YOU SAY YES, I WOULD REFUSE A STATEMENT, AND THEN I WOULD STILL SAY YES.
THEN FOR ME, I, I, I'VE GOTTA, I LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF IT, ROUNDABOUTS.
IF, IF ROUNDABOUT IS GOING INTO HIGHER TRAFFIC FATALITIES, TRAFFIC, I'M NOT DONE TALKING, SPENDING MORE TIME TRAFFIC, I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU AND POINT OF ORDER.
I'M TALKING, YOU CAN'T CALL A POINT OF ORDER.
OKAY? YOU'RE OUTTA ORDER, YOU'RE TALKING.
CONSTANT REMINDER AND SPENDING MORE MONEY ON GAS OUT OF ORDER, PLEASE.
SAFETY SEEMS TO BE THE ISSUE HERE.
AND IF I'M TELLING YOU THE SAFETY IS THE SAME, I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE WOULD SPEND MORE MONEY.
I DRIVE THIS AREA FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
SO I DO UNDERSTAND, I DO UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY ISSUE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
AND NOBODY'S SAYING DO, DO NOTHING.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK WE NEED GOOD INFORMATION.
AND THE REASON WHY THIS GOT BROUGHT BACK IS BECAUSE ALI MET WITH A RESIDENT AND THEY MET, I DON'T KNOW IF MIKE TRIMBLE WAS THERE OR NOT, BUT THERE WAS A MEETING THAT WAS HELD BETWEEN STAFF AND THE DEVELOP, THE, THE ENGINEER OF THE CITY OR THE, THE GUY THAT DEVELOPED THIS AREA WITH TXDOT.
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HAD AND NEW IDEAS WERE SHARED.AND THIS ISN'T JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BOARDING, WE WANTED TO BRING IT BACK.
THERE WAS A MEETING BETWEEN STAFF AND RESIDENTS, AND IT WASN'T JUST ANY RESIDENT.
IT WAS THE RESIDENT THAT DEVELOPED THE AREA AND THE STOPLIGHT IN THE INTERSECTIONS.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE HARM AND JUST GOING BACK AND SAYING, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE? WHAT DID THE NEW NUMBERS LOOK LIKE? IS THIS GONNA SUSTAINED? I DON'T WANNA SPEND EVEN TURS MONEY AND I'M GONNA, I, I DO NEED TO ADDRESS WHY WE, WHY I APPROVED THE TS.
BECAUSE ONE, THERE WAS, UH, MONEY THAT WE ALREADY OWED AND I FELT LIKE WE HAD TO PAY THAT SINCE WE'VE ALREADY, THE COMPANY'S ALREADY INVOICED US FOR IT.
AND TWO, THE OTHER ONE WAS FOR WATER LINES.
SO I GUESS TO CLARIFY, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND.
SINCE EVERYONE ELSE HAD TO RAISE THEIR HAND TOO.
UM, LOVE BEING PICKED ON BY THE MAYOR.
UM, THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS ONE, THE TURS, YES, WE DID OWE PAYMENT, BUT THERE WAS ALSO AN EXTRA 200 AND SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR FUTURE WORK AS WELL.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE JUST OWED MONEY, IT'S THAT THERE WAS ALSO THE VOTE TO CONTINUE PAYING THEM, TO CONTINUE DOING OTHER EXTRA WORK, UM, THAT WAS DONE AND ALL OF US VOTED, UM, TO DO THAT.
UM, THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ACTUALLY NAME THE PART IN THE STUDY THEN.
CAN YOU READ ME THE STUDY WORD FOR WORD EXACTLY.
SO THAT WAY WE CAN ALL HEAR IT.
THIS, IF YOU GIVE ME SOME TIME, I CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.
UM, BECAUSE OUR OWN EXPERTS, OUR OWN, AND I DID OUR OWN EXPERTS AND ENGINEERS WHO HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL FOR THIS, WHO LITERALLY, THIS IS ALL THEY DO, THIS IS THEIR LIFE 24 7 WITH THE CITY OF KYLE, BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS WORKING ON ROADS HERE, DESPITE THE LACK OF IMPROVEMENTS, HAVE CONSISTENTLY REFUTED THAT THIS IS THE BEST OPTION LONG TERM, CONSISTENTLY.
SO WE ARE GOING AGAINST WHAT EXPERTS ARE STATING AND IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME WHY WE WOULD DO SO.
SO I LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHOSE WHEELHOUSE IT IS HERE.
OR MAY PRETEND TO BE A, OKAY, I'M GONNA REDIRECT THIS AND GET US BACK ON TRACK.
THIS VOTE IS HERE SAYING WE ARE SAYING NO TO ROUNDABOUTS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS VOTE'S ABOUT.
I NEED PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION.
THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS VOTE IS ABOUT.
IT IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AN UPDATED ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, TRAFFIC STUDIES ELEVATION TO THE PROPOSED COLORS CROSSING ROUNDABOUTS WITHIN T TWO AS WELL AS 12 PROPOSED INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FUNDED FROM THE 2022 BOND PROGRAM TO INCLUDE NOT LIMITED, UPDATED INTO THE INTERSECTION ULTRA ANALYSIS, UTILIZING CURRENT CURRENT TRAFFIC DATA, THEIR PROJECTED GROWTH AND OBJECTIVE ENGINEERING CRITERIA TO FINAL DESIGN, APPROVAL, BID LETTING AND CONSTRUCTION AUTHORIZATION SUCH AS THESE ANALYSIS SHOULD BE ENHANCED SIGNALIZE TRAFFIC INTERSECTIONS, MODERN PHASING OVERLAPS, WARRANTED OR SIGNAL OR RAIDER DETECTION, CAMERA BASED DETECTION.
THAT IS WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM'S ABOUT.
IT'S NOT SAYING WE'RE SHOOTING DOWN ROUNDABOUTS 'CAUSE WE DON'T LIKE 'EM AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA WORK.
THIS VOTE IS TO DIRECT STAFF AND ALL WE NEED IS A MAJORITY VOTE YES OR NO.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I CONTEND THAT THIS VOTE IS UNNECESSARY.
THAT TWO YEARS TRAFFIC STUDY DONE TWO YEARS AGO IS, THAT IS STILL RELATIVELY ACCURATE.
THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE DESIGNED FOR ENHANCED TRAFFIC FLOW, UM, AS THE CITY GROWS.
UM, WE WOULD NOT DESIGN A ROUNDABOUT THAT WAS NOT AVAILABLE, UH, FOR MORE TRAFFIC THAN WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY HANDLING.
UM, THIS WILL DELAY THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WE BADLY NEED AND IS ALREADY PENDING OR IS ALREADY BEING DONE.
THE, UM, IT'S ON COLORS CROSSING THE, UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN ALL OF THESE, I BELIEVE MOST, AT LEAST MOST OF THEM, UM, THE, UM, THEY'VE ALREADY PURCHASED THE LAND NECESSARY FOR IT.
UM, THIS IS JUST A DELAYING TACTIC.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'D WANNA DO THAT.
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WITH THESE PROJECTS AS THEY ARE.UH, THEY'VE BEEN WELL STUDIED.
WE HAVE ENGINEERS WHO'VE STUDIED THEM.
WE HAVE CONSULTANTS WHO'VE STUDIED THEM.
UM, AND I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE EVEN HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA.
I'D LIKE TO CALL A POINT OF ORDER.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GOZA HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS SPOKEN MORE THAN ONCE.
I HAD A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS AND THESE WERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNED ME AND WHY I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THIS ITEM COME BACK.
ONE OF THEM IS ON PAGE 18 OF THE STUDY.
IT, UH, CITE THAT CONVERSION OF STOP CONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS TO MULTI-LINE ROUNDABOUTS ONLY YIELD A 5% CRASH REDUCTION FACTOR.
SO THERE IS, THERE ARE NUMEROUS STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT MULTI-LINE ROUNDABOUTS DO NOT PRODUCE THE SAME SAFETY EFFECTS AS A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT, PARTICULARLY ON BUSY ROADS.
UM, SO THAT IS ALSO, THAT'S OUT THERE FOR THAT CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT ONE OF ANOTHER THING IS THAT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY WAS NOT OBSERVED DURING THE ORIGINAL STUDY.
THE ORIGINAL STUDY WAS DONE IN JULY WHEN THERE WAS NO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC FROM EITHER OF THE SCHOOLS.
AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD TO JUDGE WHAT MIGHT BE NEEDED THERE.
AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THERE BEING, UM, ISLANDS THERE, BUT CLEARLY SOME OTHER PEOPLE THINK THAT THERE COULD BE JUST AN EQUALLY SAFE WITH THE INTERSECTIONS.
AND ESPECIALLY THEN IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TXDOT IS GOING TO BE DOING WITH THE 1626 CORRIDOR, I THINK IT'S PREMATURE TO BUILD ROUNDABOUTS THAT MIGHT HAVE, UH, TRAFFIC BACKUPS IF WE WIND UP KEEPING THOSE LIGHTS THERE AT CROMWELL AND 1626.
UH, AND TO, JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT SHE'S COUNCIL MEMBER ZA IS SAYING IS THIS STUDY FOR THE ROUNDABOUT WAS NOT DONE DURING SCHOOL TIME.
THERE'S NO SCHOOL TRAFFIC INVOLVED IN THIS STUDY.
THAT IS A BIG CONCERN AND THAT SHOULD BE A CONCERN, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO KIDS WHO ARE DRIVING IN THAT AREA.
UM, I'M, I'M LOOKING, I WISH I WOULD'VE PRINTED THIS OUT AND HIGHLIGHTED IT.
THIS, THIS, UM, REPORT IS QUITE INTERESTING.
UM, AND I, AND IT, IT, IT DOESN'T LEAVE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
IT DOESN'T SAY DO A ROUNDABOUT.
IN FACT, IT SAYS IF THE ROUNDABOUT IS NOT, UM, FEASIBLE, THAT THE SAFETY LIGHT IS EQUALLY, UH, WELL, SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 19.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GZA.
WE TRIED REALLY HARD TO GET Y'ALL SOME ROADS.
NO, THE ROADS ARE STILL THERE.
UM, A MOTION PASSES FOUR TO THREE.
PLEASE DON'T TALK BAD ABOUT THE RESIDENTS.
[VI) Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO AGENDA ITEM NINE.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING HAYES CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT TO PURCHASE LAND AND CONSTRUCT IMPROVEMENTS TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT OFFICE WITH A TOTAL COST TO EXCEED 15 MILLION WITH AN ESTIMATED FISCAL YEAR 20 26, 20 27 COST SHARE OF 43 40 7,735.
ITEM PRESENTER, AMY ALCO REED.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNSEL.
THIS ITEM WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
HOWEVER, AS WE WERE GETTING CLOSER TO TODAY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DEVELOPMENTS.
AND SO WE, WE AS STAFF RECOMMENDED PULLING THIS OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND HAVING A CONVERSATION.
SO FOR BACKGROUND, ON JUNE 18TH, WE RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM LAURA RAVEN, THE, UH, CHIEF APPRAISER AT HAYES CAD, UH, OF THE DESIRE TO PURCHASE PROPERTY FOR PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTING A NEW FACILITY.
THE, THE CAD INTENDS TO PUR PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND FIVE ACRES AND CONSTRUCT A 26,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT CAN HOUSE UP TO 80 EMPLOYEES.
THE ESTIMATED COST IS $15 MILLION.
IT DOES SAY NOT TO EXCEED $15 MILLION.
UM, AND IT WILL BE DEBT FINANCED AND EACH TAXING ENTITY WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY ITS ALLOCATED SHARE OF FINANCING COST TO SUPPORT THE NEW FACILITY.
THE, THERE WAS REASONING GIVEN IN THEIR LETTER AND THE LETTER IS ATTACHED TO THIS ITEM THAT ESSENTIALLY SINCE 2019, THE NUMBER OF PROTESTS HAS INCREASED FROM 22,000 TO 50 THOU 55,000.
AND HAYES CAB BELIEVES THAT THEY NEED LARGER FACILITIES IN ORDER TO HANDLE THESE PROTESTS
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IN TIME TO MEET STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS SO THAT EACH TAXING ENTITY ENTITY CAN ADAPT THEIR TAX RATE.SO THE STATE LAW PROVIDES THAT IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE OR CONVEY PROPERTY, AN APPRAISAL DISTRICT MUST OBTAIN APPROVAL FROM THE GOVERNING BODIES OF AT LEAST THREE QUARTERS OF THE TAXING UNITS ENTITLED TO VOTE ON THE APPOINTMENT.
HOWEVER, AS WAS POINTED OUT BY ONE OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS WHO SPOKE FAILURE TO APPROVE THE PROPERTY PURCHASE IN A TIMELY MANNER CONSTITUTE OR FAILURE TO EITHER APPROVE OR DENY CONSTITUTES APPROVAL.
SO IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AND NOT TO DENY AND NOT TO FORMALLY DENY THE PROPERTY PURCHASE THAT COUNTS TOWARD THAT THREE QUARTERS VOTE, AND IF THEY, IF THEY RECEIVE THE, THE SUPPORT OF THREE QUARTERS OF TAXING UNITS, THEN ALL TAXING UNITS ARE REQUIRED TO PAY THEIR PROPORTIONAL SHARE.
OUR PROPORTIONAL SHARE FOR 26 27 IS ESTIMATED AT $47,000.
SO CITY COUNCIL HAS THREE OPTIONS HERE.
CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, WHICH WOULD COUNT TOWARD THE THREE QUARTERS REQUIREMENT NEEDED.
CITY COUNCIL COULD APPROVE AN AMENDED RESOLUTION TO DENY THE PROPOSED PROPERTY PURCHASE, IN WHICH CASE WE WOULD NOT BE COUNTED TOWARD THE THREE QUARTERS APPROVAL.
OR CITY COUNCIL CAN DENY THE RESOLUTION ALTOGETHER, HOWEVER, THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE APPROVAL BECAUSE WE WOULD DENY, EITHER DENY THE PURCHASE OR APPROVE THE PURCHASE.
SO WHAT DOES THE CITY RECEIVE AS FAR AS DETAILS? THE, THE LETTER THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM AND THEN I REACHED OUT TO LAUREN RAVEN AND GOT THE CITY'S PORT PROPORTIONATE SHARE, WHICH IS THAT $47,000 THAT WAS LISTED IN THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND THAT WOULD COME OUTTA THE GENERAL FUND? YEAH, I BELIEVE SO.
IT'LL BE FROM GENERAL FUND AND THEY, THE THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE WE GOT THIS LETTER, UM, I KNOW DRIPPING SPRINGS HAS, HAS COME OUT AND MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANNA APPROVE THIS ITEM.
I KNOW HAYES COUNTY HAD A PRETTY INTERESTING CONVERSATION ABOUT IT TODAY.
SO WE WANTED TO ALLOW COUNSEL TIME TO FULLY CONSIDER THIS AS OPPOSED TO JUST PUTTING ON CONSENT.
YEAH, MY CONCERN WOULD BE PAYING SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR.
I, I DON'T THINK IN ANY NORMAL WORLD I WOULDN'T PICK OUT MY CHECKBOOK AND JUST GIVE MONEY TO, AND THEN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING.
AND I HAVE HAD CITIES REACH OUT TO ME, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GONNA DO? THEY'RE CONCERNED AS WELL.
SO, UM, CAN WE, CAN WE DENY AND THEN REQUEST LIKE, HEY, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS PASSED OR APPROVED TO, TO REQUEST THAT THEY RESUBMIT, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE, IN A DENIAL RESOLUTION IF WE WANTED TO.
TO SAY THAT CITY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, IS REQUESTING MORE INFORMATION AND CANNOT APPROVE AND IT THEREFORE MUST DENY UNTIL SUCH INFORMATION IS PROVIDED.
UM, HOW DID, WHAT, WHAT, HOW DOES COUNCIL FEEL ABOUT THIS? OH, I'M, I'M GLAD WE PULLED IT BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T, I WOULD HAVE, UH, THERE'S A, A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTION MARKS AND ZERO ANSWERS.
UM, I, I WANNA SEE A WHOLE LOT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE I SAY, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL PARTICIPATE IN YOU HAVING AN EXTRA $15 MILLION FOR A FACILITY.
I, AND I DON'T DOUBT THAT THEY NEED IT.
LIKE I'VE, I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE PROTEST I AGREE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND, UH, I WALK IN WITH A STACK OF EVIDENCE.
I MEAN, IT, I, I SPEND HOURS PREPARING.
SO, UH, AND, AND IT, IT IS INCREDIBLY CROWDED AND LIKE I'VE ACTUALLY HAD SOME OF MY MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD TO DO IT LIKE IN THE LOBBY 'CAUSE THERE'S NO ROOMS AVAILABLE.
SO I DO NOT DOUBT THAT THEY NEED IT.
UH, WE'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GROWTH.
THEY'VE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NEED AS WELL.
BUT YOU DON'T JUST GET TO ASK, LIKE YOU SAID, FOR A $15 MILLION BLANK CHECK WITHOUT SAYING WHAT YOU'RE GONNA USE IT ON.
LIKE YEAH, I NEED A LOT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE I GIVE A THUMBS UP ON THAT.
THERE'S NO, UH, BUDGET, THERE'S NO BUILDING PLAN, THERE'S NO SITE SELECTION.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WRITE US A CHECK AND WE'LL DECIDE ALL THAT LATER.
AND I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GZA, HOW IS THE $47,735 CALCULATED? THAT WAS NOT EXPLAINED TO ME.
SO WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME WAS THAT THE TOTAL WAS 1.1 MILLION AND KYLE'S SHARE WAS THAT AMOUNT.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, I THINK IS THERE ANY WAY THAT HE CAN, JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, WE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION IN COMMISSIONER'S COURT TODAY.
UM, IF THEY TAKE THE OVERALL VALUE, SO I DON'T THINK RESIDENTS NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE NOT DIRECTLY APPORTIONED TO THE HAYES CAD.
THOSE INDIVIDUAL FUNDS ARE DIVVIED OUT AMONGST ALL THE INDIVIDUAL TAXING ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY.
THERE'S A HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE, A HUNDRED TWENTY, THIRTY TWO, SOME OVER 120
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TAXING ENTITIES, AND IT'S BASED OFF THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL TAXABLE VALUE THAT'S COLLECTED BY THE CAT TODAY.UM, THE NUMBERS THAT WE RECEIVE FOR HAYES COUNTY, UH, OUR BASE, UH, VALOREM TAX RATE IS ROUGHLY NINE, JUST OVER 19% OF THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF TAXABLE VALUE.
IF YOU ADD IN THE HAYES COUNTY ROAD AND BRIDGE FUND, THAT'S ANOTHER OVER 2%.
SO HAYES COUNTY ITSELF IS OVER 21% OF THAT TAXABLE VALUE.
UH, OVERALL, THAT BEING THE CASE, I'VE SPOKEN TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME CONCERNS YOU HAVE, THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD THAT WERE BROUGHT FORTH IN COURT TODAY, AND BY THE WAY, WE PASSED A DENIAL RESOLUTION ON A FIVE ZERO VOTE.
UH, WE'VE ALL, WE, YOU JUST GOT THROUGH TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE MULTIPLE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
WE KNOW THAT THOSE PROJECTS, YOU DON'T JUST HAVE A CHECK AND THEN GO OUT AND SAY, WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE PLACE, WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE ROOM.
WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT IS.
NONE OF THOSE THINGS HAD BEEN DONE.
WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO WAS A, A RESOLUTION OF DENIAL WITH DIRECTION TO OUR STAFF STATING IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS IN THE FY 28 BUDGET, THEN WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT IF THEY CAME BACK TO US.
AND THE SUGGESTION WAS FEBRUARY, MARCH OF 2027 TO SAY, LOOK, HERE IS WHAT WE NEED, HERE IS WHY WE NEED IT, AND HERE'S WHAT OUR OVERALL, UH, OUR OVERALL REQUEST IS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT AND WE WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD AS, AS A COUNTY, WE HAD THE, A VERY OPEN DISCUSSION THAT NO ONE ON OUR COURT FELT COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY TYPE OF SITUATION LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T, WE COULDN'T FACE OUR CONSTITUENTS IF WE DID THAT.
AND FOR US TO DO IT FOR A BOARD THAT IN EVERY MEMBER OF OUR COURT, SAVE ONE GAVE EXAMPLES OF HOW THEY'VE BEEN NON-RESPONSIVE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, NUMBER ONE, BUT SPECIFICALLY NON-RESPONSIVE TO US WHO ARE BEING ASKED TO FUND THIS ON BEHALF OF OUR CONSTITUENTS.
IT WAS A NON-STARTER FOR OUR COURT.
I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE TALKED TO AT LEAST TWO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHO HAVE THE EXACT SAME CONCERNS.
I, THE BIGGEST, THE OTHER LARGE CONCERN I HAVE IS THE INITIAL LETTER, UH, THAT WAS PUT FORTH.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE A COPY OF THAT AND IF, IF IT'S THE SAME LETTER THAT WE GOT, I, I'M NOT AWARE, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY NO MENTION OF WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER THE SHOT CLOCK THAT IS ATTACHED TO THIS.
OUR LETTER, OUR LAST LETTER ALSO DOES NOT CLARIFY THAT IF WE DON'T APPROVE THAT, THAT'S STILL APPROVAL.
LIKE IF WE DON'T, IF WE NEITHER APPROVE PILOT, HOW DO WE FIND THAT? HOW'D YOU FIND THAT OUT? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE LAW.
UM, AND WE AS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND TAX ENTITIES HAVE SUGGESTED WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'VE BEEN SHARING INFORMATION WITH EACH OTHER.
AND SO IT CAME THROUGH IN THAT INFORMATION.
I DO ALSO WANNA CLARIFY, I WAS SENT, THIS IS THE CITY'S PROPORTIONAL SHARE, BUT I WASN'T SENT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S PROPORTIONAL SHARE WAS TO TRY TO COMPARE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE ALL BEING CALCULATED, THEY'RE ALL RELEVANT.
CAN I ASK HOW WE FOUND OUT THERE WAS $80,000 GOING TO A SALARY, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH BY ONE OF MY COURT MEMBERS TODAY, AND I HAD NO IDEA ABOUT IT.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AN OVERALL, LIKE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A SALARY SURVEY FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF, WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING TO POSSIBLY ADOPT A TAX RATE THAT WOULD INCREASE MAYBE FIVE, FIVE AND A HALF MILLION.
NOT TO MENTION OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT UNDER THAT AGREEMENT WILL PROBABLY COST US ANOTHER TWO TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PAYING FOR OUTSIDE SALARIES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT WAS JUST A, IT WAS NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR THE CADS FOR US.
AGAIN, THE, THE SHOT CLOCK PORTION OF THIS, AND I SAY SHOT CLOCK BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, ANY APPLICATION AND FOR ANY RESIDENTS WHO MAY BE LISTENING, ANY APPLICATION THAT IS SUBMITTED, UH, OR PERMIT REQUEST TO THE COUNTY OR TO THE CITY UNDER STATE LAW, WE HAVE 30 DAYS TO, TO CONSIDER OR IT BECOMES, WE HAVE TO ACCEPT IT.
I VIEW THIS AS THE EXACT SAME THING, EXCEPT WE BY LAW SHARE THAT WITH A RESIDENT.
WE SHARE THAT WITH ANY OF THOSE, A DEVELOPER OR A RESIDENT WHO WANTS A NEW DRIVEWAY PERMIT.
I THINK IT IS VERY, I I THINK IT WAS VERY UNPROFESSIONAL AND I'LL PUT THAT IN THE MOST KIND SENSE POSSIBLE THAT OUR CAD KNEW THAT SENT US THESE NOTICES AND DIDN'T, DIDN'T HAVE THE COURTESY OR THE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY TO LET US KNOW THAT IF WE TOOK NO ACTION WHATSOEVER OR IF WE DECIDED TO PUT IT ON THE AUGUST 1ST AGENDA, GUESS WHAT? IT'S TOO LATE.
THE OTHER THING I'LL NOTE FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER BEFORE THIS MEETING, BECAUSE WE WERE STANDING BACK THERE, UM, IT APPEARS THAT THE TAX ENTITIES WERE NOTIFIED ON DIFFERENT DATES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE COUNTY'S DEADLINE IS JULY 28TH OR 26TH.
SO THERE WE WERE, WE WERE NOT ALL NOTIFIED AT THE SAME TIME.
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WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, YOU GUYS WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS FOR, HAS ANYBODY TALKED TO HAY CISD? BECAUSE ASSUMING IT'S SIMILAR TO LIKE THEIR, THEIR VOTING BLOCK, LIKE FOR THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER, I LOVE YOUR ASSUMPTION THAT I WOULD GET A RETURN PHONE CALL FROM HAYES CATTTHAT THE SCHOOL OF MY RESIDENT.
BUT NO, IT, IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THREE QUARTERS OF THE TAXABLE VALUE.
IT APPEARS TO BE THREE QUARTERS OF THE TAXING ENTITIES ENTITLED TO VOTE.
DOES A-C-I-S-D GET MORE VOTES? I DON'T BELIEVE THEY DO.
I I WILL TELL YOU, I BELIEVE IT'S BASED OFF OF WHENEVER WE HAVE APPOINTMENTS TO THE HAYES CAD, UM, THAT I'M NOT A THOUSAND PERCENT SURE ABOUT HOW THEIR OR ARE CALCULATED, BUT IT'S NOT THE OVERALL TAXABLE VALUE, IT'S THE NUMBER OF TAXING NUMBER OF RESIDENTS TAXED WITHIN THAT ENTITY.
SO WE BY FAR HAVE THE LION SHARE BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE TAXPAYERS IN THE COUNTY.
WE DON'T NECESSARILY COLLECT MORE TAXES THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ENTITIES IN THE COUNTY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IS THAT A FAIR? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
FOR THE PROPORTIONAL SHARE, THE STATE LAW SAYS THREE QUARTERS OF THE TAXING ENTITIES ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, RIGHT HERE, THREE, THREE QUARTERS OF THE GOVERNING BODIES OF AT LEAST THREE QUARTERS OF THE TAXING UNITS ENTITLED TO VOTE.
SO TO ME, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE EACH OF THOSE TAXING ENTITIES SERVES, EACH TAXING ENTITY IS ONE PORTION OF THAT THREE QUARTERS.
OH, SO YOU'RE SAYING DRIPPING SPRINGS, IT HAS LIKE A QUARTER OF THEIR POPULATION IS SAN MARCUS OR THEY ALL GET THE SAME.
SO IF, IF YOU KNOW MORE THAN A QUARTER OF THOSE GOVERNING BODIES VOTE NO, THEN THIS DOES NOT GO THROUGH.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO, TO MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE NO
CAN WE PUT IN THE STIPULATIONS THOUGH? I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND A MOTION TO APPROVE AN AMENDED RESOLUTION THAT DENIES THE PROPOSED PROPERTY PURCHASE AND THEN PROVIDES WHATEVER COMMENTARY IT IS THAT COUNSEL WANTS ABOUT INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT HAYES HAD BRING BACK.
CAN WE ALIGN IT WITH WHAT THE COUNTY REQUESTED? ABSOLUTELY.
CAN WE GET LIKE KIND OF A YEARLY SCHEDULE OF WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT PAYMENTS TO LOOK LIKE OR AN ESTIMATE THEREOF? YEAH, WE CAN PUT THAT IN AS ONE OF OUR REQUESTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE A, A SCHEDULE OF WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT THE PAYMENTS TO LOOK LIKE TO BE BRING BROUGHT BACK WHEN THEY BRING BACK THE DETAILS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AN AMENDED RESOLUTION THAT DENIES THE PROPOSED PROPERTY PURCHASE WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT WE BRING BACK IN.
THEY CAN REAPPLY WITH THE REQUEST THAT THEY COME BACK, IT SOUNDED LIKE FEBRUARY OR MARCH OF NEXT YEAR WITH DETAILS ABOUT THE PROPERTY INTENDED USE, THE INTENDED PROPERTY AND A PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR WHAT KYLE'S PORTION WOULD BE.
DO WE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE?
UM, THE ADDITIONAL PROBABLY 40 TO $45,000.
I MIGHT, MY NUMBERS MIGHT BE A THOUSAND OR TWO OFF.
UM, THAT WOULD'VE COME OUT OF OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE.
BUT THE NUMBERS PROVIDED US BY THE CAD ITSELF.
UM, ONE THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME WAS THAT THEIR BUILDING FUND WENT FROM 50,000 TO 1,000,050 THOUSAND ANNUALLY.
NOW THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS NO SCHEDULE, UM, THERE WAS JUST THE ASSUMPTION THAT THAT FUND WOULD BE RAISED BY A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR WITH ABSOLUTELY NO ACCOUNTING, UH, BACKUP IN ANYTHING THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US.
DO YOU HAVE DIRECT, DO YOU HAVE THE DIRECTION YOU NEED? DIRECTION? YES, MA'AM.
UM, SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKENNEY SECOND BY MYSELF.
UP NEXT, I'M GLAD WE'RE ALL GETTING ALONG AGAIN,
[10) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff direction on the Hays County Homeless Coalition 2026 Point-in-Time Count & Survey Analysis.]
10, WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION, AND PROVIDE STAFF DIRECTION ON THE HAYES COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION 2026 POINT IN TIME COUNT AND SURVEY ANALYSIS ITEM PRESENTER, MAYOR, THE, THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HAYES COUNTY HOMELESS COALITION HAD TO GO.SO IF WE COULD BRING IT BACK ON A ABSOLUTELY MEETING, THAT'D BE GREAT.
SO THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO AGENDA ITEM 11.
[11) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback on the overview of the schedules, cost projections, and status of the 2022 City of Kyle Road Bond Program projects.]
RECEIVE A REPORT.I'M SORRY, BEFORE I FINISH, COULD YOU, COULD YOU GUYS JUST GIMME A HEADS UP NEXT TIME? I HATE TO MAKE PEOPLE WAIT SO LONG, SO JUST BE LIKE, CAN THEY, CAN THEY GO NEXT? I WILL TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
UM, RECEIVE A REPORT, HOLD A DISCUSSION,
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AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK ON THEIR OVERVIEW OF THE SCHEDULE'S, COST, PROJECTIONS, AND STATUS OF THE 2022 CITY OF KYLE ROAD BOND PROGRAM PROJECTS, ITEM PRESENTER.MIKE TRIMBLE
MIKE TRIMBLE, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, SO TONIGHT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE 2 22 ROAD BOND, UM, AND HOW IT'S GOING AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION.
AND SO TONIGHT WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECTS AND WHERE THEY STAND, UH, AS FAR AS SPENDING GOES AND PROGRESS ON COMPLETION.
UH, WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH, UM, UPCOMING MILESTONES, WHAT'S COMING, WHAT'S AHEAD IN 2026.
WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT, UM, UPDATED COST ESTIMATES.
WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, FACTORS, UM, AND COST DRIVERS THAT ARE A PART OF THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME COST CONTAINMENT STRATEGIES WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL AS SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL LEVERAGING OF FUNDING GOING FORWARD.
UM, SO TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECTS, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RICK KLATT, UH, WITH LOCHNER.
UM, AS MIKE SAID, UH, RICK KLATT, THE GEC PROGRAM MANAGER.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, CITY OF KYLE 22 20 22 ROAD BOND PROGRAM, UM, THE VOTERS, AS YOU KNOW, APPROVED AT EIGHT DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
UH, AND THE CURRENT STATUS ON EACH OF THOSE CURRENTLY MARKETPLACE IS COMPLETE.
AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR OTHER PROJECT, THREE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, KOHLER SEC, SETON, AND BB ROAD WEST, UH, WINDY HILL, AND THEN CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM, WHICH JUST GOT STARTED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS FROM A CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
AND THEN THE OTHER REMAINING PROJECTS, OLD STAGE COACH ROAD NORTH, UH, OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, OLD STAGE COACH, NORTH NORTH, UH, BUTTON CREEK ROAD, THE KYLE LAYMAN, UH, ROAD EXTENSION BB ROAD, EAST KOHLER TO SETON AND CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM ARE AT, UH, VARYING, UH, UM, PHASES IN THE DESIGN PROCESS PRIMARILY, UH, UH, OTHER THAN THE, UH, BB EAST AND THE, UH, KOHLER'S TO SEAT AND OVERPASS PROJECT, UH, THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE NEARING ARE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO, UH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THE PROJECTS.
I'LL START BY, UH, UH, MARKETPLACE.
UM, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THIS FORMAT SIMILAR, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, UH, OBLIGATED COST TO DATE, AND THE AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE, UH, AS WELL AS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND A STATUS OR A TIMELINE.
SO ON THE MARKETPLACE PROJECT, WE HAD AN ORIGINAL BUDGET, UH, SET ASIDE OF 11.4 MILLION.
UH, TO DATE OBLIGATED COSTS ARE 10 POINT, BASICALLY 10.19 MILLION, AND THE AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE IS 9.5, UH, MILLION.
SO THIS PROJECT'S ACTUALLY GONNA END UP, AS WE KNOW, IT'S, IT'S COMPLETED NOW.
IT'S GONNA END UP UNDER BUDGET.
UM, AS FAR AS THE IMPROVEMENTS, THIS PROJECT IMPROVED 0.6 MILES OF ROADWAY, UM, FROM FM 1626 TO THE OLD BRIDGE TRAIL.
UM, SO HERE'S A PHOTO OF THE ACTUAL RIBBON CUTTING AND A, A PHOTO ADJACENT PHOTO TO THE RIGHT OF THE ACTUAL ROADWAY.
HERE'S AN AERIAL PHOTO TAKEN, A PHOTO TAKEN BACK IN 2023, AS WELL AS AN UPDATE IN AUGUST, 2025.
NEXT PROJECT I'M GONNA GO OVER HERE IS THE, UH, KOHLER'S DECEDENT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY THE COLLECTION OF BOTH THE KOHLER'S DECEDENT ROADWAY PORTION AS WELL AS THE, UH, UH, KOHLER'S IH 35 OVERPASS PROJECT.
UM, BUDGETED COST FOR THIS PROJECT, THE COLLECTION OF THE TWO PROJECTS IS 66.1 MILLION, OBLIGATED COST TO DATE OF, UH, 52.4 MILLION.
AND AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE IS JUST OVER, UH, 26.5 MILLION.
UM, THIS PROJECT WILL EXTEND KOHLER'S CROSSING TO CONNECT WITH SETON PARKWAY, CREATING A NEW FIVE LANE UNDERPASS BENEATH IH 35.
UM, THE WORK IS, AS I MENTIONED, IS SEGMENTED INTO TWO, ARE SEPARATED INTO TWO SEGMENTS.
ONE IS THE OVERPASS PROJECT AT KOHLER'S CROSSING, AND THE SECOND IS THE WIDENING OF THE EXISTING, UH, ROADWAY TO CREATE AN UN, OR, I'M SORRY, WIDENING OF THE EXISTING ROADWAY TO CREATE AN UNDERPASS, A ROUNDABOUT, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE NEW KOHLERS EXTENSION AND BB ROAD AND EXTENDING SEATON PARKWAY.
UH, TO CONNECT WITH THE, UH, KOHLER'S IE 35 PROJECT, TOTAL PROJECT LENGTH IS 1.11 MILES.
UM, AND THE, UH, CURRENTLY CO DECEDENT OFFICES PORTION IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH AN ANTICIPATED, UH, COMPLETION IN SUMMER OF 2027.
AND THEN THE OVERPASS PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN THE FALL OF 2027.
NEXT PROJECT IS THE BB ROAD, WHICH IS THE COLLECTION OF TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
WE CALL 'EM BB ROAD EAST, BB ROAD WEST.
UM, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET IS 66.7 MILLION.
OBLIGATED COST TO DATE IS 11.9 MILLION, AND THE AMOUNT SPENT IS A LITTLE OVER 10.5 MILLION.
THE, UH, EAST SEGMENT IS CURRENTLY IN
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DESIGN, AND THE WEST SEGMENT IS IN CONSTRUCTION AS PART OF THE KOHLER'S, UH, UH, BB COLLECTION OF PROJECTS THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.UM, THE PROJECT SUMMARY, UH, THE WEST SEGMENT REALIGNS A COUPLE OF SHARP CURVES AND ADDS CAPACITY TO A ONE MILE SECTION OF BEBB ROAD, UH, BETWEEN NORTHBOUND FRONT ROAD TO I 35 AND SUNLIGHT BOULEVARD, UH, WITH AN ADDITIONAL ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE NEW KOHLERS CROSSING IN BEBB ROAD.
AND THE EAST SEGMENT WILL CONSTRUCT APPROXIMATELY 1.8 MILES OF NEW FOUR LANE MINOR ARTERIAL ROADWAY FROM SUNLIGHT BOULEVARD, UH, TO EAST OF GREEN PASTURES ROAD, UH, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF ROUNDABOUTS AT THREE INTERSECTIONS, BB ROAD, DACY LANE, AND BEBB ROAD, AND, UH, GO FORTH SOUTH, UH, AND BB ROAD AND GO FORTH NORTH.
TOTAL PROJECT LENGTH OF IS 2.8 MILES.
UH, THE EAST SEGMENT CONSTRUCTION, UM, CONSTRUCTION IS, UH, ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN IN THE FALL OF 2027.
AND THE WEST SEGMENT CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETE IN 2027.
HERE IS A, UH, KIND OF A PHOTO OF, UM, THE KOHLER'S BB PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
ONE THAT WAS TAKEN BACK IN FEBRUARY, 2025 BEFORE WE KICKED OFF THE CONSTRUCTION.
AND ANOTHER PHOTO THAT WAS TAKEN IN, UH, MAY OF 2026.
UH, HERE'S A COUPLE OF PHOTOS.
UH, THE FIRST ONE ON THE LEFT IS ACTUALLY THE RIGHT TURN LANE OFF THE IH 35 NORTHBOUND FRINGE ROAD, UM, TURNING INTO ACTUAL KOHLERS TO SETON ROADWAY.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS JUST AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE OF LOOKING DOWN KOHLERS IS, Y'ALL ARE WELL, WELL AWARE.
WE DO HAVE THE, UH, KOHLERS FROM I 35 TO THE, UH, TO ROUNDABOUT IN A CONNECTION UP TO THE EXISTING BB ROAD THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER, UNDER TRAFFIC WHILE WE, UH, UH, CLOSE DOWN BB UH, SECTION OF BB UH, TO CONSTRUCT THAT.
UH, THE NEXT PROJECT HERE IS WINDY HILL, UM, WINDY HILL, BUDGETED COST OF 15.1 MILLION, OBLIGATED COST TO DATE OF 12.3, AND THE AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE OF ABOUT 3.2.
UH, WINDY HILL IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UH, WE GAVE NOTICE TO PROCEED ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO.
UM, PROJECT SUMMARY, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WAS AWARDED IN APRIL, 2026.
THE PROJECT WILL EXPAND THE ROADWAY TO FOUR LANES, UH, TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, UH, AND ALSO ADD A DEDICATED CENTER, CENTER TURN LANE.
UM, NEW SIDEWALKS, UH, WILL BE CONSTRUCTED TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY FOR PEDESTRIANS, UM, AND WE'LL PROVIDE FOR A SAFER, MORE EFFICIENT ROADWAY TO SUPPORT KYLE'S CONTINUED GROWTH.
THE, UH, TOTAL LENGTH OF THE PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY 0.6 MILES, AND THE LOCATION IS IE 35 NORTHBOUND FRINGE ROAD, UH, TO PURPLE MARTIN AVENUE.
UH, WE ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION TO BE COMPLETE IN THE SUMMER OF 2027.
HERE'S A COUPLE OF PHOTOS OF WINDY HILL, UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UH, YOU SEE THE ROADWAY WORK, UH, OFF TO THE LEFT OF THE EXISTING BB ROAD.
SO, UH, NEXT PROJECT IS OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, UH, COLLECTION OF PROJECTS.
UM, THE, UH, BUDGETED COST IS 41.2 MILLION.
UH, OBLIGATED COST DATE IS 36.8 MILLION, AND THE AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE IS 12.6 MILLION.
UM, THIS OLD STAGE COACH ROAD ACTUALLY KIND OF, UH, MAKES UP THREE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS THAT WE'VE BROKEN IT INTO.
UH, WE'VE GOT CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM PORTION, WHICH IS AT THE BOTTOM THERE IN THE, THE LIGHTER BLUE.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE OLD STAGE COACH ROAD SECTION, WHICH IS THE, FROM ROUNDABOUT OLD STAGE COACH ROAD UP TO SIX CREEKS.
AND THEN FROM SIX CREEKS, WE HAVE THE OLD STAGE COACH ROAD NORTH PORTION.
UM, THIS 2.2 MILE ROAD IMPROVEMENT, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S DIVIDED INTO THREE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS.
THE PROJECT WILL WIDEN THE ROADWAY ON OLD STAGE COACH ROAD AND WIDEN THE CENTER LANE ON CENTER STREET, UH, PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS AND INCORPORATE, UH, INCORPORATE IN ALL THREE PROJECT SEGMENTS.
COMBINED LENGTH IS APPROXIMATELY 2.2 MILES, UM, AND OLD STAGE COACH ROAD NORTH CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN IN THE FALL OF 2026.
OLD STAGE COACH ROAD BIDDING, UH, ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN THE SUMMER OF 2026.
AND THEN CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, WITH NTP ISSUED, UH, IN THIS LAST MONTH OF JUNE.
UH, THE NEXT PROJECT HERE IS BUTTON CREEK ROAD, UH, HAD A BUDGETED COST OF 28.6 MILLION, UH, OBLIGATED COST TO DATE OF 10.2 MILLION, AND AN AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE OF APPROXIMATELY 8.1.
UM, BUTTON CREEK IS CURRENTLY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN.
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UH, BUTTON CREEK ROAD FROM LAYMAN ROAD TO, UH, PORTER COVE.UH, IT WILL INCLUDE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, WIDEN TRAVEL LANES.
UH, THE PROJECT WILL ALSO PROVIDE NEW SIDEWALKS AND A SHARED USE PATH, UH, TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND MOBILITY FOR THE USERS.
UM, THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE RECONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVING INTERSECTIONS AT BUTTON CREEK ROAD AND SOUTH GO FORTH ROAD.
TOTAL LENGTH OF THE PROJECT IS 1.2 MILES.
UH, LOCATION, UH, IS FROM LEHMAN ROAD IS TO PORTER COVE, AS I MENTIONED.
AND CONSTRUCTION IS, UH, ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN IN THE FALL OF 2026.
UH, THE NEXT PROJECT HERE IS KYLE LAYMAN EXTENSION.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS, IS AT A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN.
UM, THE PROJECT IS BROKEN INTO, UM, TWO DIFFERENT SEGMENTS.
EX UH, UH, THE PROJECT WILL IMPROVE MOBILITY AND REDUCE CONGESTION IN THE NORTHERN KYLE BY EXTENDING LEHMAN ROAD, UH, NORTHEAST FROM BUTTON CREEK ROAD TO DACY LANE.
UH, IT'S A FOUR LANE SECTION THAT, THAT WILL EXTEND KYLE PARKWAY AND CONNECT WITH THE NEW SEGMENTS.
UH, TOTAL LENGTH OF THE PROJECT IS ABOUT 1.3 MILES.
AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UH, BIDDING IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN IN THE FALL OF 2026.
UH, NEXT PROJECT HERE IS CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
UM, THE, UH, THE BUDGETED COST FOR THE PROJECT IS 10.2 MILLION.
WE'VE OBLIGATED TO DATE 4.7 MILLION, AND THE AMOUNT SPENT TO DATE IS 3.9.
UM, THE DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT IS AT THE 60% LEVEL, ROUGHLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN HALF OF THE FINAL DESIGN IS COMPLETE.
UM, AND THE PROJECT WILL, UM, THE, UH, WIDEN THE EXISTING, UH, TWO LANE SECTION WILL BE WIDENED TO THREE LANES, UH, WITH THE CENTER TURN LANE IN THE MIDDLE.
THE TOTAL PROJECT LENGTH IS APPROXIMATELY 0.4 MILES, AND THE LOCATION IS FROM VETERANS DRIVE TO MAIN STREET.
WE ANTICIPATE CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN IN EARLY 2027.
UH, HERE'S A LITTLE UPDATE TABLE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, UH, PROCESS AND WHERE WE'RE AT, UH, OVER 80% OF THE PARCELS ARE IN THE LATER STAGES OF ACQUISITION, MEANING THAT THEY'RE EITHER IN NEGOTIATIONS, CLOSINGS, OR IN POSSESSION WITH APPROXIMATELY 65% OF THE, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY IS, IS CLOSING AND OR IN POSSESSION.
AS YOU SEE THE END THERE, 58.3% OF THE PROPERTIES ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF KYLE'S POSSESSION AT THIS TIME.
UH, SUMMARY OF ANTICIPATED 2026 PROJECT MILESTONES IN QUARTER ONE OF 2026, UM, REACHING FINAL DESIGN ON BOTH OLD STAGE COACH ROAD NORTH, UM, AND THEN CENTER STREET OFF GOING TO BID, UH, Q2 OF 2026.
UH, REACHING FINAL DESIGN WOULD BE OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, UH, ANTICIPATED, UH, GOING TO BID WITH OLD STAGE COACH ROAD IN Q2 OF 2026.
UM, AND THEN BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION OF CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM AT WINDY HILL, UH, Q3 OF 2026, REACHING FINAL DESIGN OF BB ROAD EAST AND THEN GOING TO BID WITH, UH, BUTTON ROAD, BUTTON CREEK ROAD, OLD STAGE COACH ROAD NORTH, AS WELL AS THE KYLE PARK PARKWAY LAYMAN EXTENSION.
AND THEN BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION ON OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
UH, IN Q4, WE ANTICIPATE REACHING FINAL DESIGN ON CENTER STREET, ON SYSTEM, AND THEN BEGINNING CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECTS BUTTON CREEK ROAD PROJECT, UH, OLD STAGE COACH ROAD NORTH, AS WELL AS KYLE PARKWAY.
UH, ROADWAY EXTENSION, PROJECTED COST ESTIMATES FOR THE PROGRAM.
UM, SOME OF THE, UH, THE COST ASSUMPTION ASSUMPTIONS, UM, THE COST ESTIMATES ASSUME 10 TO OR 10 TO 15% CONTINGENCY.
UH, THIS CONTINGENCY IS ACCOUNTS FOR THE UNKNOWNS, UNANTICIPATED FACTORS, AND AS WELL AS CHANGES DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UM, JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UH, COST PROJECTIONS ARE, YOU KNOW, A POINT IN TIME.
SO THEIR ESTIMATES AS OF TODAY, UM, AND THE ESTIMATES ARE REFINED AS PROJECTS GET CLOSER TO CONSTRUCTION.
UM, AND THEN BEST INDICATOR, AS WE'VE MENTIONED IN THE PAST IS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY GETTING, UH, YOU KNOW, RECEIVING BIDS ON THESE PROJECTS AS THEY DO GO TO CONSTRUCTION AT THAT POINT, WE'LL TAKE THOSE, UM, THOSE COSTS THAT WE RECEIVE AND REFINE AND UPDATE OUR COST PROJECTIONS.
UM, KEY, UH, KEYS TO CONTROLLING, UH, COST CHANGES, YOU KNOW, IS TO MITIGATE RISK, YOU KNOW, TURNING THE UNKNOWNS INTO KNOWNS, UM, AS WELL AS ACCELERATED CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULES TO AVOID COST ESCALATION AND PROVIDE CERTAINTY IN CONSTRUCTION PRICING.
SO, UH, THE SOONER WE CAN GO GET TO CONSTRUCTION ON THESE PROJECTS, UH, THE BETTER FROM A COST STANDPOINT.
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PROJECTIONS I'M GONNA GO THROUGH, THERE'S THESE BROKEN ENDED.I, AS I MENTIONED, EIGHT DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
UM, AND WE HAVE COLUMNS FOR DESIGN, ANTICIPATED DESIGN COSTS RIGHT AWAY, UTILITY RELOCATION, CONSTRUCTION, UH, CONTINGENCY, AND THEN TOTAL, UH, PROJECTED COSTS BY PROJECT.
UM, SO ON, AS YOU CAN SEE GOING ACROSS THERE, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, UH, UM, OVERALL TOTAL FOR THE PROGRAM AT THIS POINT, UH, WE ARE AT 330,000,560.
UM, AND THEN YOU ADD IN THE GEC SERVICES, UH, YOU TAKE OUT THE PROJECTED TEXT PARTICIPATION, AND THEN THE TOTAL, UH, PROJECTED BOND PROGRAM COST AT THIS POINT IS 338,600.
DID I, I SAID DID, I SAID A THOUSAND.
SO 300, 3 30 8 MILLION, 600,000.
SO AT THIS POINT, I WANNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO MIKE.
YEAH, SO, UM, I'LL JUST GO BACK REAL QUICK.
AS A COST PROJECTION SHOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE OVER THE 2 94 AT LEAST WE'RE PROJECTING THE COST WILL COME IN, UH, OVER THE $294 MILLION APPROVED BY THE VOTERS.
AND SO WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ARE SOME OF THE COST DRIVERS BEHIND THAT.
UM, SO AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO DELINEATE, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, COLUMNS AND DESIGN UTILITIES, KIND OF WHERE ALL THOSE ARE.
BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT PIECES OF SCOPE THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED AND DIFFERENT, UH, COST DRIVERS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO LEMME START WITH, UM, SOME OF THE, THESE SCOPE ADS, UM, THAT ARE ALSO PART OF THE COST DRIVERS FOR, UM, WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE COST PROJECTIONS.
UH, WE HAD A REVISE ALIGNMENT FOR OLD STAGE COACH ROAD NORTH AT $170,000.
UM, WE HAVE ALSO HAD ADDITIONAL DESIGN COORDINATION WITH DEVELOPERS ON THE COLORS AND BB UH, PROJECTS AS WELL AS MARKETPLACE AVENUE.
OBVIOUSLY THAT ADDS COST TO OUR DESIGN AS WE'RE DOING THAT COORDINATION.
UM, WE'VE HAD ADDITIONAL UTILITY DESIGN, UH, TO MEET, UH, UH, CITY WATER NEEDS.
SO AS YOU COORDINATE WITH THE UTILITIES, UM, A WATER ELECTRIC, ET CETERA, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GONNA ADD TO THE, SOME OF THOSE, UM, DESIGN COSTS.
YOU'VE SEEN THAT IN SOME OF THE TASK ORDERS THAT HAVE COME.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COORDINATION WITH PEC AND, UH, WITH, WITH SOME OF THE WATER UTILITIES, INCLUDING KYLE WATER.
UM, THERE WAS A FIFTH LANE, UM, ADDED ON BUTTON CREEK ROAD TO IMPROVE THE MOBILITY.
UM, PC OVERHEAD, UNDERGROUND CONVERSION, THIS IS A LARGE COST, UM, TO THE PROGRAM.
UM, THAT'S ABOUT OVER 22, ALMOST $23 MILLION, UM, ADDED TO THE PROGRAM FOR THAT DECISION TO, UH, GO FROM OVERHEAD TO UNDERGROUND CONVERSION.
WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, REEVALUATING SOME OF THAT ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE PARTICULARLY, UM, IN URBAN, UH, CONTEXTS, UH, EXISTING ROADWAYS 'CAUSE A RETROFIT ON UNDERGROUNDING IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
AND SO, UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT, THAT NOW, BUT THAT IS A HUGE COST ADDED TO THE PROGRAM.
AND THEN THE VIBE TRAIL, UM, ADDING THAT ELEMENT TO THE PROGRAM THAT WASN'T, WASN'T INITIALLY, UH, A PART OF IT, UH, WAS ABOUT 3.6, ALMOST $4 MILLION AS WELL.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE JUST, UM, ADDING TO THE, THE COST FOR THE PROGRAM.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT I WILL, I WILL SAY ARE TANGENTIALLY RELATED TO THE, THE ROAD BOND PROJECTS, BUT THAT ARE NOT, NOT ACTUALLY PART OF THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES.
UM, THERE WAS $5.5 MILLION, UM, INCLUDED, UM, AS PART OF THE COW PARK DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR LAYMAN PUMP STATION, UH, FOR BUTTON CREEK ROAD PARCEL TWO, UH, WAS 2.1 MILLION.
UH, PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR REBEL INVESTMENTS, UH, CENTER STREET PARCEL, UH, 1.3 MILLION.
UH, SO THAT ADDED, UH, $9 MILLION, UM, TO RIGHT AWAY COSTS IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE WERE ALREADY ACQUIRING FOR THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES.
AND THEN UTILITY BETTERMENTS, AND THIS IS WHEN, UH, THERE'S A, LIKE A WATERLINE UPGRADE.
LET'S SAY THERE WAS A 12 INCH THAT'S BEING UPGRADED TO A 16 INCH.
AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THOSE COME TO YOU, UH, IN DIFFERENT TASK ORDERS, UM, AND PROJECT REQUESTS.
UH, BUT THOSE HAVE BEEN TOTALING UP AND THAT'S ABOUT $3 MILLION, UH, TOTAL UTILITY BETTERMENTS AS WELL.
UM, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT PROGRAM ESTIMATE, BUT THAT IS A COST THAT'S BEING CARRIED BY THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM RIGHT NOW WAS THE RELOCATION OF THE OLD, UH, STAGECOACH ROAD HERITAGE OAK TREE.
UM, I THINK THERE WAS INITIALLY, UH, ANTICIPATION THAT, THAT THERE WAS SOME MONIES, UH, RECEIVED FROM THE DEVELOPER, UH, THAT WOULD HELP US WITH SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
UM, BUT CURRENTLY THOSE COSTS ARE BEING, UH, BORN BY THE, THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM.
UM, SOME POSITIVE COST TRENDS.
UM, SO
YOU SAW THE MARKETPLACE PROJECT CAME UNDER BUDGET AND WE'RE ALMOST, AND WE'RE BASICALLY WRAPPING UP AND CLOSING OUT THAT PROJECT NOW.
UM, THE KOHLER SEC, SETON AND BB PROJECTS, UM, ONE OF THE LARGER PROJECTS IN THE ROAD BOND THAT ACTUALLY CAME IN ABOUT $8 MILLION UNDER ESTIMATED, UH, UH, COST FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO, UM, CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM, UM, CAME IN A LITTLE BIT OVER BUDGET, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT, A LOT OF DRAINAGE AND A LOT OF UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT.
AND SO AS WE GO FORWARD, WE'LL BE CLOSELY WATCHING, UH, THE BIDS THAT ARE COMING IN.
AGAIN, THAT IS THE BEST, UH, INFORMATION WE HAVE ABOUT THE TRUE COST OF THE PROJECT.
ONCE WE HAVE THOSE IN, WE CAN ALSO THEN, UH, ADJUST AND THEN TAKE ADDITIONAL COST CONTAINMENT
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STRATEGIES, UM, AS NECESSARY.AND THEN GETTING TO COST CONTAINMENT STRATEGIES.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA BE CLOSELY TRACKING COSTS GOING FORWARD.
UM, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW THIS, BUT I'LL JUST REITERATE THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, MANAGING A PRO BOND PROGRAM LIKE THIS IS A DAY-TO-DAY, HOUR BY HOUR INITIATIVE.
UM, THAT'S WHY IT TAKES KIND OF A, A TEAM OF PEOPLE TO DO THIS.
YOUR GEC TEAM, YOUR INTERNAL TEAM, YOU HAVE GREAT STAFF HERE, UH, TO HELP DO THAT.
UH, BUT IT IS A DAY BY DAY DECISION BY DECISION.
THERE'S A THOUSAND DECISIONS THAT GO INTO THIS AND, AND TRACKING THOSE COSTS, MANAGING THOSE COSTS, UM, UM, GOING FORWARD, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO, TO SEEK EFFICIENCIES AND PROGRAM DELIVERY GOING FORWARD.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DOING, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS COMING UP IN THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM WITH INTERNAL FORCES.
SO SOME OF OUR INTERNAL PROJECT MANAGERS, UH, HAVE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT BACKGROUND, AND SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE, UH, SOME OF THEIR HELP IN DOING SOME OF THAT WORK GOING FORWARD, WHICH WILL HELP US IN SOME OF THE, UH, GEC COSTS AND THEN ALSO PURSUING FUNDING THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS.
UM, WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR, UH, THAT CAMPO IS RECOMMENDING FUNDING FOR TXDOT AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION, UH, FOR THE KOHLER'S I 35 UNDERPASS PROJECT, $10 MILLION AS A GEC NOTED.
UH, BUT THERE, THERE MIGHT BE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES.
AND SO, AND I DO THINK THE KOHLER'S, UH, OVERPASS PROJECT WOULD BE A KEY PROJECT THAT COULD COMPETE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
UM, AND SO THAT'S AGAIN, JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AS THEY COME UP.
NOW, UM, HAVING, UH, PROJECTED COST ESTIMATES OVER BUDGET IS NOT AN UNCOMMON THING WHEN IT COMES TO LARGE PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.
AND SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO ON THE BACKEND, AND SOME OF THAT IS LOOKING AT THE LIMITS OF THE PROJECT AND ALSO PHASING OF THE PROJECT.
AND SO WE ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR, FOR GETTING PHASES OF WORK DONE, BUT ALSO MAYBE THERE'S SOME FUTURE PHASES THAT WE PUSH OUT.
UH, WE ARE, AGAIN, JUST ASSESSING THAT NOW.
WE'RE GONNA BE CLOSELY MONITORING THE, THE BIDS AS THEY COME IN AND THEN SEEING IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS WE WOULD MAKE, UH, FOR MAYBE MAYBE TAKING A PROJECT THAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING DOING ALL THE CONSTRUCTION FOR NOW, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A PHASING OF THAT PROJECT THAT WE DO.
UM, AGAIN, AS A COST CONTAINMENT STRATEGY.
MEANWHILE, OBVIOUSLY THE GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE ROAD BOND AND GET WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS PROMISED TO THE VOTERS DONE AND ON THE GROUND.
UH, SO MAINTAINING THAT INTEGRITY, BUT ALSO LOOKING FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE PHASING OPPORTUNITIES AS AS THEY COME UP, UM, AND THEY'RE NEEDED.
AND THEN ALSO I MENTIONED ABOUT THE UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES.
UM, AGAIN, LOOKING FORWARD, STRONG RECOMMENDATION, SINCE I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE, UM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, UM, THEY ARE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO DO IN EXISTING ROADWAYS AND EXISTING BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
UM, THE BEST TIME TO DO THIS IS WHEN YOU HAVE GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT AND YOU HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN.
I KNOW YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT OVERSEES THIS.
AND SO, AGAIN, THAT, THAT'S WHERE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES REALLY EXIST.
IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT AS A RETROFIT.
IT'S VERY COSTLY AND VERY COMPLICATED.
SO ANYWAY, UM, JUST, JUST, UH, A NOTE GOING FORWARD, BUT WE ARE REEVALUATING WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, COME AND KEEP THE, UH, UTILITIES OVERHEAD.
AND SO, UM, I THINK STAFF WILL BE COMING TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT THOSE, UM, UM, COSTS, UH, CONTAINMENT STRATEGIES AND WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE.
I THINK RIGHT NOW, JUST ROUGH ESTIMATE, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 TO $12 MILLION, UH, POTENTIALLY WE COULD SAVE, BUT AGAIN, I WANNA LET THEM FINISH THEIR ANALYSIS AND LET THEM BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU IN THE FUTURE UPDATE.
AND WITH THAT, UM, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, COUNSEL, AND I'LL JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE.
IT HAS BEEN MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE YOU AND THE, THE COMMUNITY OF KYLE AND, AND MY LEADERSHIP, MY STAFF, MY TEAM AT TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.
IT HAS TRULY BEEN AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE.
I'M GONNA MISS YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THE HONOR, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.
THE HONOR'S BEEN OURS AS WELL.
UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, UM, REGARDING THE BOND? I KNOW THERE'S $44.6 MILLION, HOPEFULLY THAT GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SHORT.
UM, IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME TYPE OF PLAN FOR THE VOTERS THAT VOTED FOR THIS.
UM, I, I WAS LOOKING AT THE $22 MILLION THAT IS FOR THE BURIED LINES.
AND, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO IT, BUT USUALLY IT'S FOR BEAUTIFICATION AND I REMEMBER TALKING ABOUT IT DURING THE 2022 BOND AND IT FOR THE WAY WE PLANNED IT WAS FOR BEAUTIFICATION.
UM, BUT MAN, THAT'S AN, THAT'S A PRICE TAG THAT COMES WITH, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFICATION.
AND IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE LINE, IF IT GETS STRUCK BY, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO IN AND TRENCH AND DIG.
AND SO HOPEFULLY, UM, WE CAN FIGURE SOME, THE CITY CAN FIGURE AND STAFF CAN FIGURE SOMETHING OUT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE.
SO, UH, WITH THAT SAID, COUNCIL MEMBER, AMI MAY PRETEND TO BE US, MR. TRIBBLE, UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY.
UM, THERE'S BEEN MANY TIMES THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS IT'S BEEN VERY COMPLICATED AND VERY CHALLENGING, BUT UM, YOUR HARD WORK HAS NOT GONE
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UNNOTICED.AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, SIR, IN ANSWERING MY EMAILS WHENEVER THERE'S ISSUES GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK.
I HATE TO ALLUDE YOU, BUT YOU, I KNOW THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THAT, THAT PEOPLE HAVE AND THEY'VE GOTTA TAKE 'EM.
SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE ONLY, UH, QUESTION, WELL, THE ONLY COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT BUNTON FROM LAYMAN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THIS IS A BASICALLY A, NOT SO MUCH A WARNING, BUT JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW SIDEWALKS ARE COMING, RIGHT? GUESS WHAT? IT'S GONNA AFFECT YOUR BUS SERVICES.
SO TO GET READY FOR THAT, 'CAUSE IT'S THAT TWO MILE RADIUS, RIGHT? THAT YOU CAN HAVE.
SO FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, UH, IF YOU HAVE BUS SERVICES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS AREA, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING IN A BATTLE CRY FOR SO MANY YEARS ABOUT SIDEWALKS ON BUNTON AND KIDS WALKING IN THE MUD AND ALL THAT.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA FULFILL THAT OBLIGATION TO BUILD THESE ROADS, WHICH WE ARE, AND THE SIDEWALKS, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME, UH, LITTLE BIT OF GROWING PAINS THERE FOR WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, YOUR KIDS AND GETTING TO SCHOOL TO LAYMAN IF YOU'RE TAKING THE BUS.
SO, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT PROGRESS IS ALL ABOUT.
BUT AGAIN, MR. TRIMBLE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT MAYOR PRO TEM AT, ACTUALLY THAT REMINDED ME.
I DO WANNA REMIND THE COMMUNITY TOO, THAT WE DO HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE TO TALK ABOUT THE ROAD BOND AND THE UPCOMING CONSTRUCTION AND THE DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE DOING.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE ON JULY 29TH, I BELIEVE, AT SIX 6:00 PM YES.
6:00 PM UM, AT, AT LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL.
SO, UH, EVERYBODY COME OUT AND PLEASE ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR WHOLE TEAM OUT HERE, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THESE PROJECTS.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER GZA, I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE WITH THE CITY AND LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE MISSED.
YOU ARE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR TEAM AND SO YOU LEAVE A, A BIG HOLE TO FILL.
UM, BUT I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ADDED COSTS.
UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS ON THERE THAT I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO CLARIFY WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL $3,000,633, 600 OR $3,633,640 FOR THE VIBE TRAIL, WAS THAT UM, OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE HAD ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT FOR THAT OR IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE SPENT TO DATE, UH, IN THE, THE ROAD BOMB PROJECT? YEAH, SO THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT'S ALLOCATED TO UM, PUTTING THE VIBE TRAIL IN PLACE, BOTH THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
WE WENT BACK AND JUST DID AN ESTIMATE OF THAT, LOOKING AT THAT ELEMENT THAT WAS ADDED, THAT WAS ADDED TO THE PROGRAM JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE COST OF SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS AS THEY WERE, THEY WERE ADDED TO THE PROGRAM.
SO WE WENT BACK INTO THAT ANALYSIS AND SO THAT'S OVERALL, I BELIEVE WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT COST TO BE, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, AND THEN FOR THE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WERE ADDED, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE PARK DEVELOPMENT? YEAH, AND I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP FROM UM, JASON ON THAT ONE, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS A PART OF AN AGREEMENT, UM, UH, WITH NEWQUEST.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS TO, UH, PAY FOR SOME OF THE ROADWAY AND RIGHT AWAY, UM, THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO HAD A RELATIONSHIP BACK TO THE ROADWAY ITSELF THAT WE WERE, THAT WE'RE BUILDING.
YOU WANNA ADD MORE TO THAT? NO, I THINK, DID I GET IT? YEAH.
AND THEN SO IS A LEHMAN AND PUMP STATION NOT FACTORED INTO THAT? IT KIND OF SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT DON'T REALLY GO WITH ROADS THAT ARE IN HERE, OR AT LEAST NOT A LOT, BUT A FEW.
YEAH, I WAS, I WAS, OH, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT THE LAYMAN PUMP STATION WAS KIND OF A PROJECT THAT WE NEEDED TO FULFILL AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT WE WERE ACQUIRING SOME OF THE ROAD PROPERTY, UM, RIGHT NEXT ADJACENT TO OUR GBRA TAKE POINT.
AND SO IT KIND OF MADE SENSE AS WE WERE NEGOTIATING FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE WERE JUST GONNA TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT, UM, BUYING THE WHOLE PROPERTY SO WE COULD MAKE THAT EXPANSION A REALITY.
AND, UM, THE ROAD BOND, UH, ENDED UP PAYING FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
ALRIGHT, ANYBODY, COUNCIL MEMBER SAPA, UM, HOW MUCH DO ENGINEERING REPORTS COST OR CAN YOU GIMME THE ROUGH ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH THOSE HAVE COST FOR THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM? OOH, UH, DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE THAT I I DON'T HAVE A DIRECT ESTIMATE.
I MEAN, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND, AND KIND OF ADD EVERYTHING UP IF WE LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL REPORTS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE REPORTS THAT YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO MAY BE, YOU KNOW, PRE 2022 BOND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN PREPARATION FOR THE BOND AS WELL, BUT, OKAY.
YEAH, BECAUSE I, I WAS ABLE TO FIND ONE, UM, FROM MAY 17TH, 2022, WHICH
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WAS FOR THE AMOUNT IN $65,847 AND 50 CENTS, WHICH WAS APPROVED AND AWARDED TO CP AND Y TO DEVELOP PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS.AND THAT WAS FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS OR ROUNDABOUTS AT KOHLERS CROSSING ON CROMWELL, BENNER AND SANDERS.
YEAH, SO I KIND OF, AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT GOES INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENGINEERING REPORTS, RIGHT? SO I JUST DIVIDED THAT NUMBER BY THREE AND IT CAME OUT TO LIKE 21,700 PER INTERSECTION, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT RE-GOING AND HAVING AN ENGINEERING REPORT REDONE FOR ALL 12 INTERSECTIONS WOULD BE 260,000 MINIMUM OR SO DOLLARS.
UH, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL JUST VOTED TO HAVE UPDATED ENGINEERING REPORTS, WHICH I ASSUME WE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT FOR ANOTHER TASK ORDER OR WHATNOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT.
ARE THOSE DIFFERENT FROM TRAFFIC REPORTS AS WELL, OR TRAFFIC STUDIES? SO, SO LET ME ANSWER A MACRO QUESTION THAT YOU HAD, WHICH IS THE COST OF LIKE, LET, LET'S JUST TAKE A LUM ENGINEERING STUDY.
'CAUSE YOU WOULD TAKE ANY PHASE OF DESIGN PLUMBING ENGINEERING REPORT.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING A PER REPORT FOR.
SO LET'S SAY, 'CAUSE I'VE HANDLED, LIKE WHEN I WAS IN AUSTIN, I HANDLED PER REPORTS FOR ENTIRE CORRIDORS.
THOSE COULD BE ONE AND A HALF MILLION, THOSE COULD BE TWO $2 MILLION.
UM, IF YOU'RE DOING AN INTERSECTION, YES, IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE CHEAPER THAN THAT.
IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, $50,000 TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SCOPE IS.
AND SO, UM, I WOULD SAY JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COST OF STUDIES.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, IF IT'S AN INTERSECTION, IF IT'S A SEGMENT OF CORRIDOR, SEGMENT OF ROADWAY, UH, IT JUST DIDN'T DEPEND ON, ON, ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA COST.
TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A ROADWAY, LIKE THE, THE ONES WE DID IN THE ROAD BOND, UH, YES, IT WILL INCLUDE DOING SOME TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ON INTERSECTIONS AND MOST OF THE PS DO HAVE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS INCLUDED THAT WE HAVE POSTED ALL THE P OUT ON OUR KYLE ROAD BOND WEBSITE TOO.
UM, SO THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
AND I GUESS, SO MY QUESTION LIKE WITH THAT AS WELL, UM, HOW DOES, WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL NOT ONLY 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA FINANCIALLY IMPACT THE COST OF THE ROAD BOND SINCE THEY WANT TO UPDATED ENGINEERING REPORTS AND ANALYSIS BY, AT A MINIMUM IT SEEMS $260,000 OR SO.
UM, WHAT IMPACT DOES THIS HAVE ON OUR TIMELINES IF THEY'RE WANTING TO SORT OF PAUSE THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THESE UPDATED, WHAT DID THEY ASK FOR? UPDATED ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, TRAFFIC STUDIES AND EVAL EVALUATION METHODOLOGIES, UH, FOR ALL THE 12 PROPOSED INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
UM, HOW, HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THE PROJECTED TIMELINE? NOW, I, I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW LONG DO WE ESTIMATE? IT DEPENDS.
UM, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BID IN THE FALL, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IT SHOULDN'T DELAY MUCH, UM, TO GET THAT WORK DONE.
UH, FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER, UNDER CONSTRUCTION, IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT A ROUNDABOUT AND DO THAT TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
NOW IF WE'RE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTING THE ROUNDABOUT, WE'RE ALREADY HALFWAY DONE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AT COLORS DEC SETON.
SO I'M JUST GONNA ASSUME THAT WE'D PROBABLY COME BACK AND TELL YOU THAT PROBABLY ISN'T SOMETHING WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT.
BUT FOR THE OTHER, SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN WE'RE ANTICIPATED TO GO TO BID.
SO WOULD IT HAVE AN IMPACT ON SCHEDULE? POTENTIALLY, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ON OLD STAGE COACH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING GOING TO BID, I THINK, UH, LATER IN THE SUMMER.
THERE'D PROBABLY BE SOME SCHEDULE IMPACT TO THAT.
UM, BUT JUST, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS.
AND I GUESS IT WOULD ALSO DEPEND ON THE BREADTH OF THE ENGINEERING ANALYSIS THAT THEY WANT TO REQUEST, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO IT, IT, SO THEY JUST VOTED, THE MAJORITY HERE JUST VOTED TO IMPACT OUR FINANCES ON OUR ROAD BOND PROJECT AND OUR TIMELINE ON OUR ROAD BOND PROJECT, WHICH THEN ALSO INCREASES THE FINANCES.
I'LL JUST, UH, I, I THINK STAFF WILL PROBABLY COME BACK AND JUST DO THE, THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT THAT SCOPE LOOKS LIKE AND GIVE YOU, COME BACK WITH YOU WHAT, WHAT THAT RECOMMENDATION IS, AND THEN WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE.
AND ALSO JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DONE AMAZING THINGS IN REVAMPING OUR ENTIRE PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
AND THEN ALSO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LASTING IMPACT ON OUR BOND PROGRAMS, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE THAT ENTIRE MAP THAT YOU BUILT OUT AND HOW IT WOULD GO AND HOW WE WOULD BUILD OUT OUR COMMITTEES FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND WHATNOT, THAT'S GONNA HAVE A LONG LASTING IMPACT AND A VERY, VERY POSITIVE IMPACT ON THIS CITY, JUST AS YOU ALREADY HAVE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, THANK YOU, MIKE, FOR YOUR INPUT THE, THESE YEARS.
UM, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN MOVING ALL OF THESE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS FORWARD.
THEY'RE VERY COMPLEX AND VERY TIME CONSUMING.
AND THANK YOU FOR PULLING TOGETHER THE OUTSTANDING STAFF THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, THEY ARE JUST SO COMPETENT AND SO GREAT WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
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UM, I'M HOPING THAT THEY'RE STICKING AROUND AND WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, CONTRIBUTE AS YOU HAVE.AND I WILL SAY THEY MAKE ME LOOK GOOD, SO I WILL GIVE THE, THE CONGRATS RIGHT BACK TO THEM.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY, LIKE YOU AND I STARTED RIGHT ABOUT THE SAME TIME.
SO, UH, AND I, I REMEMBER WE WERE BEHIND SCHEDULE AND OVER BUDGET ON EVERY, OR PROJECTED OVER BUDGET ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE.
AND YOU BROUGHT MARKETPLACE ON TIME A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, UNDER BUDGET.
UH, YOU, YOU'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB OF DOING THE BEST YOU COULD TO GET US BACK TO THAT 2 94.
UH, I'VE, I'VE SEEN THE WORK, I'VE SEEN THE IDEAS, I'VE SEEN THE BRAINSTORMING.
UH, YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER A VERY INNOVATIVE TEAM THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, DONE SOME, SOME, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THINGS AROUND THE CITY.
AND SOMETIMES I'VE LOOKED AT 'EM AND GONE, HMM, LET'S SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT.
UM, AND, AND MY SKEPTICISM HAS BEEN PROVEN WRONG WAY MORE OFTEN THAN NOT.
SO, UH, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR TIME HERE.
YOU ARE DEFINITELY GONNA BE MISSED TREMENDOUSLY.
UH, YOU KNOW, WITH ME SERVING ON CAMPO LIKE YOU, YOU AND I HAVE PROBABLY WORKED ON MORE PROJECTS AS THAN YOU, YOUR, YOUR TYPICAL COUNCIL MEMBER.
BUT, UM, YOUR TEAM'S PHENOMENAL.
UM, THERE'S, UH, SOME, DEFINITELY HUGE SHOES TO FILL AS YOU, AS YOU GO ON.
AND, AND WE ALL WISH YOU THE ABSOLUTE BEST IN YOUR NEXT STEP IN YOUR CAREER.
[12) Consider approval of a Resolution recognizing the historical significance of the 1871 Bearing Tree located along North Old Stagecoach Road and declaring said tree a historic landmark worthy of preservation and calling for its protection. ]
NEXT.WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM 12, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, RECOGNIZING THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE 1871 BEARING TREE, LOCATED ALONG NORTH OLD STAGE COACH ROAD AND DECLARING SAID TREE, A HISTORIC LANDMARK WORTHY OF PRESERVATION AND CALLING FOR ITS PROTECTION.
IDEN PRESENTER, JASON LUTZ, ALL, UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR COUNSEL.
UM, UH, WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GETTING MY NAME CORRECTLY.
IT'S VERY RARE THAT THAT HAPPENS, SO I DO APPRECIATE IT HAVING SAID THAT YET.
UM, SO TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 1871 BEARING TREE.
UM, SO IF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, ON MAY 12TH, 2026, HAYES COMMISSIONER'S COURT APPROVED A RESOLUTION, UM, RECOGNIZING ITS HISTORICAL, CULTURAL, AND SURVEYING SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT 1871 BEARING TREE.
UM, SO NOT JUST THE AGE, BUT THIS IS A MONUMENT.
UM, WE, UH, UTILIZE IT IN SURVEY RECORDS GOING BACK, UH, TO THE HISTORY OF KYLE.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FROM MAPPING GEOGRAPHICAL STANDPOINT.
UM, THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DESIGNATED A HISTORIC LANDMARK CALLED FOR HIS PRESERVATION.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THE SAME WITH THIS RESOLUTION HERE TODAY.
UM, THIS TREE IS APPROXIMATELY 25 AND A HALF INCHES IN DIAMETER.
IT WAS SURVEYED RECENTLY BASED ON ITS HISTORICAL GROWTH.
SO APPEARS THE TREE IS ALMOST AS OLD AS THE UNITED STATES, SO APPROACHING TWO 50.
SO, UH, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE TREE, UM, SOMEWHERE.
UM, BUT SIMILAR TO HAYES COUNTY, UH, CITY'S COLLEGE AGAINST SUBMITTING TO SAFEGUARDING THAT HERITAGE IDENTITY AND THE EDUCATIONAL LEGACY OF THAT TREE, ENSURING THAT THIS, UH, HISTORY REMAINS FOR ALL FUTURE GENERATIONS.
SO, UM, AS A FORMER PARKS DIRECTOR SAID THE KIDS, ALL THE KIDS WILL, WILL ENJOY IT.
SO, UM, HERE'S THE LOCATION, THE LITTLE RED DOT THERE ON THE CORNER, JUST NORTH OR ROAD STAGE COACH.
COUPLE OF PHOTOS AND SOME PRETTY EASY OPTIONS TONIGHT.
UH, APPROVE IS PRESENTED, APPROVE WITH MODIFICATIONS OR DENY THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I DON'T HAVE, I, I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THIS AT THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
UH, I MET WITH COMMISSIONER HAMMER AND THEN, UM, WITH A RESIDENT, AND WE JUST SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT THE TREE.
I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE GONNA LIKE, MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, BUT I WAS SUPER EXCITED.
UM, AND I ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THEY MOVE FORWARD TO REALLY HAVE IT ESTABLISHED AS HISTORICAL BEYOND JUST THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
BUT I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE THE FRANKIE'S IN THE BACK WHO HAVE BEEN, UM,
UM, AND WITH THAT, SO WOULD ANYBODY, UH, HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR A SECOND.
COUNCIL MEMBER, ZA, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, I DID HAVE A, UM, PERSON CALL ME TODAY AND ASK US TO APPROVE THIS.
THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH HISTORY HERE, SO SHE WAS VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.
UM, I'VE BEEN OUT TO SEE THE FRANKIE'S.
I THINK THAT THESE THINGS ARE WORTH SAVING AND, AND NOTATING IN OUR HISTORY.
SO, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS ON HERE.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING SO LATE.
I KNOW IT'S KIND OF LATE, SO I KNOW YOU WANTED TO BE HERE.
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YOU GUYS LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? NO,YOU GUYS HAVE A SAFE DRIVE HOME.
[13) (Tabled 6/2/2026) Consider approval of a Resolution regarding requests for exceptions from Chapter 41 (Subdivisions) of the City of Kyle Code of Ordinances related to detention, drainage, flood mitigation, and sidewalks for the property located at 200 Veterans Drive, Kyle, Texas. (VR-26-0015) Planning and Zoning considered these seven variance requests on 4/14/2026 with the following recommendations to Council: Denial 5-0: Sec. 41-134 (General Requirements) to allow alternative culvert specifications; Denial 5-0: Sec. 41-140 (Watershed and Flood Prevention) to waive requirements for a detention pond; Denial 5-0: Sec. 41-140 (Watershed and Flood Prevention) to waive requirements for a trickle channel; Approval 5-0: Sec. 41-143(a)(1) (Sidewalks) to eliminate installation of new sidewalks along Veterans Drive; Approval 5-0: Sec. 41-143(a)(1) (Sidewalks) to eliminate sidewalks along Barbee Street (from Woods Street to Veterans Drive); Denial 5-0: Sec. 41-143(a)(1) (Sidewalks) to waive sidewalk crossings over drainage ditches; and Denial 5-0: Sec. 41-143(a)(1) (Sidewalks) to reduce the minimum sidewalk width from five (5) feet to four (4) feet. ]
ITEM 13, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION REGARDING REQUEST FOR EXCEPTIONS FROM CHAPTER 41 OF THE CITY OF KYLE, CODE OF ORDINANCE RELATED TO DETENTION, DRAINAGE, FLOOD MITIGATION, AND SIDEWALKS FOR THE PROPERTY.