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GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU[I) Call Meeting to Order, Roll Call, and Excuse Absences]
FOR ATTENDING THE, THE MEETING.TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST, UH, 2026.
THE TIME IS SEVEN O'CLOCK, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING TO ORDER.
CAN I PLEASE GET A ROLL CALL? WHERE IS KALE? HERE, TOUS.
PRESENT ZA ATTENDING MEDINA IN THE WORLD.
UH, WE'RE GONNA DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.
LIFE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
WHY NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[II) Approval of Minutes]
WE HAVE CONSIDER, UH, APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES, UM, FOR AUGUST 13TH AND AUGUST 18TH, 2026.AND, UH, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO GO AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE, UH, MINUTES FOR THE SAME DATES.
YOU SAID AUGUST 13TH, SPECIAL MEETING AND AUGUST 18TH FOR THE REGULAR SPECIAL MEETING.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM TUBAS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA.
[III) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]
WE HAVE CITIZENS COMMENTS.THE CITY COUNCIL WELCOMES COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS EARLY IN THE AGENDA OF CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK ARE ENCOURAGED TO SIGN IN BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
SPEAKERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY BUSINESS.
WE ASK THAT YOU DO OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
UM, NEXT I HAVE PAUL HILL, AND HE HAS YIELDED TIME FROM MIKE WALSH.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT I SHOULD ALSO HAVE TIME FROM, UH, LET'S SEE, FIVE OTHER PEOPLE.
SO ANOTHER 15 MINUTES PLUS THOSE SIX.
CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR? AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT WERE THEIR NAMES? UH, YEAH, THEY'RE, UH, I JUST GAVE THEM TO, OKAY.
ALRIGHT, MS. KIRKLAND, IF I CAN HAVE THREE TIMES FIVE.
WELL, AND THEN THAT'S PLUS THE SIX THAT I ALREADY, OKAY.
SO, UM, FIRST I WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE DOING THIS TODAY.
UM, I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE AT HOME WITH MY PARTNER EATING DINNER, MAYBE WATCHING THIS ONLINE OR SOMETHING ELSE.
BUT, UM, I REALLY FELT COMPELLED TO BE HERE TODAY.
UM, I WANT TO THANK PEOPLE WHO GAVE ME THEIR TIME, INCLUDING KATIE ARMSTRONG AND MICHAEL WALSH AND, UM, OTHERS.
UM, I GENUINELY BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PRACTICES ARE UNFAIR.
I THINK POOLING TIME IS UNFAIR, AND I DID THIS TO PROVE A POINT.
I CAN HOLD YOU GUYS HOSTAGE FOR THE NEXT 21 MINUTES AND JUST TALK AT YOU ABOUT THINGS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT IS GENUINELY UNFAIR.
UM, A BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IS FINE.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT IN THE PAST, BUT THAT'S NOTHING LIKE THIS.
UM, PUBLIC COMMENT BASICALLY BECOMES AN ARMS RACE OF WHO CAN GET THE MOST FRIENDS OR FAMILY TO A MEETING.
I BELIEVE THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN EGALITARIAN THING.
EVERY CITIZEN IN KYLE SHOULD HAVE THEIR MOMENT TO COME UP HERE AND HAVE THEIR THREE MINUTES TO TALK TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THEIR ISSUES BY ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PULL THEIR TIME.
PEOPLE WITH MORE RESOURCES, PEOPLE WITH MORE POWER, PEOPLE WITH MORE INFLUENCE, GET MORE SPEECH.
I WAS ABLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE I HAVE A NETWORK.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN KYLE WHO DO NOT HAVE THAT NETWORK, AND THAT GIVES ME AN INHERENT ADVANTAGE OVER THEM.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WILL EVER BE DOING AGAIN, I FELT SICK TO MY STOMACH DOING IT TODAY, BUT, UM, THANK YOU.
AND, UM, I'M DOING IT TO PROVE A POINT THAT THIS IS UNFAIR AND IT'S A BAD PRACTICE AND IT SHOULD NOT CONTINUE.
I AM SORRY THAT I'M DOING THIS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SOMETHING THAT I DID WANNA POINT OUT IS THAT IN THE RULES, THE MAYOR AND THE CHAIR CAN, UM, OR THE CHAIR CAN EXTEND TIME UNLESS ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER STOPS IT.
IT'S ON ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER TO STEP IN AND SAY, WE NEED STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE RULES.
SO I AM GOING TO ENCOURAGE THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO STEP IN AND ASK FOR STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE RULES, BUT FRANKLY, IT'S AN UNWORKABLE SYSTEM, AND AGAIN, ONE THAT I THINK IS FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR.
NEXT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GUTTING OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
I REALLY HOPE THAT THE INTERIM MANAGER, UM, GETS THE BUDGET RIGHT THIS TIME, BECAUSE I WAS THERE AT THE BUDGET MEETING LAST YEAR AND HE PRESENTED
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TO CITY, TO THE CITY, UM, COUNCIL.MANY OF YOU WERE HERE, UM, THAT THE BA THAT THE BUDGET WAS BALANCED.
IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY WENT INTO EXPECTING TO HAVE A $14.2 MILLION DEFICIT OR WHATEVER THE EXACT NUMBER IS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT NUMBER, THAT $14 MILLION DEFICIT HAS BEEN USED AS A CUDGEL TO SAY, I DON'T LIKE SOMETHING BONK $14 MILLION DEFICIT.
YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT IT'S BEING USED AS A WEAPON AGAINST THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION SAYING, OH, THEY LEFT US WITH A $14 MILLION DEFICIT.
UM, SOMETHING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS I BOUGHT MY HOUSE HERE IN 2021 IN POST OAK, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, IS SINKING INTO THE GROUND.
UM, MY HOME VALUE HAS DROPPED BY OVER $50,000.
NOW THAT'S GOOD FOR ME BECAUSE THAT MEANS MY PROPERTY TAXES HAVE DROPPED.
BUT THAT'S BAD FOR THE CITY BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT YOUR REVENUE HAS DROPPED, DEVELOPMENT FEES HAVE GONE, GONE DOWN.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED, AND I DO NOT THINK THAT GUTTING OUR CITY GOVERNMENT WAS THE WAY TO DO THIS.
AN ENTIRE DEPARTMENT QUIT IN PROTEST BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE PERSONAL VENDETTAS AGAINST THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THAT ARE BEING ACTED OUT IN REAL TIME IN FRONT OF US.
I DO NOT THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO GIVE A 12 MONTH CONTRACT WITH A PERMANENT RAISE TO SOMEBODY WITH NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE.
THE CITY MANAGER AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A CHECK ON EACH OTHER.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO CHECK EACH OTHER'S WORK.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BALANCE EACH OTHER.
NOW WE HAVE ONE PERSON DOING TWO JOBS, AND I THINK THAT THAT CHECK AND BALANCE IS GONE AND IT REALLY WORRIES ME GOING FORWARD.
AND HONESTLY, I LOVE OUR CITY STAFF.
I'M SO AP APPRECIATIVE THAT THEY'RE HERE, BUT SOMETIMES I WONDER WHY ANYBODY WOULD WORK HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR JOB CAN JUST GO ON A WHIM DEPENDING ON WHO HIRED YOU, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, WHO'S DECIDING TO GET THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
THERE REALLY HAVE NOT BEEN A LOT OF ATTEMPTS TO TRY TO TAKE A MEASURED APPROACH TO THIS BUDGET.
UM, SHORTFALL, WHICH ALMOST $10 MILLION OF IT IS ACTUALLY A SHORTFALL FROM THE SAVINGS ACCOUNT, WHICH THE CHARTER ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO REFILL OVER TIME.
IT DID NOT DEMAND IT TO BE REFILLED ALL IN ONE GO.
AND SOME OF THESE POSITIONS ARE, OH, WE'LL FIRE THEM NOW AND THEN WE'LL REFILL IT IN THE NEXT BUDGET.
WELL THEN HOW DOES THAT PERSON FEEL ABOUT THE NEXT BUDGET SHORTFALL? WILL THEY JUST BE FIRED AND THEN REHIRE AT THE NEXT BUDGET? IT'S UNFAIR, AND I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS WAS THE RIGHT PATH TO GO DOWN.
NEXT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ROAD BOND AND ROADS.
AS I SAID, I LIVE IN POST OAK AND WE ARE SINKING INTO THE GROUNDS.
AND I WAS PARTICULARLY REMINDED OF THIS WHEN I VISITED A FRIEND IN PLUM CREEK THIS WEEKEND, AND THEY HAD NICE PAVED ROADS.
IT WAS A REALLY NICE SMOOTH DRIVE.
UM, THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN POST OAK.
UM, THERE ARE ZERO PROJECTS IN THE 2022 ROAD BOND THAT ARE JUST IN PRECINCT TWO.
THERE'S, I THINK, TWO ON THE BOUNDARIES, BUT NONE IN PRECINCT TWO.
AND YET WE HAVE SOME OF THE WORST ROADS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A FAILURE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME, INCLUDING THE MAYOR WHO REPRESENTED PRECINCT TWO AT THE TIME.
UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE BOND WAS A BIG INVESTMENT IN EAST KYLE.
UM, BUT OF COURSE IT'S BEING DELAYED AND IT'S OVER BUDGET.
UM, I THINK WE WERE LUCKY TO GET IT THE FIRST TIME.
AND NOW THE EAST SIDE PROJECTS, WHICH WERE LATER IN THE PROCESS, OF COURSE, THE WEST SIDE PROJECTS ARE MOSTLY DONE INCLUDING MARKETPLACE.
WE'RE GETTING PUSHED TO ANOTHER BOND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT AGAIN.
WHY DO WE HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING AGAIN? AND WHY DOES OUR REPRESENTATIVE NOT FIGHT FOR US? WHY ARE YOU NOT FIGHTING FOR POST OAK TO HAVE LANGLEY DONE? WHY IS THAT ZERO ON THE BUDGET? IT HAS BEEN SO DISAPPOINTING TO HAVE OUR REPRESENTATION NOT FIGHTING FOR US THEN, AND NOT FIGHTING FOR US.
NOW, SPEAKING OF THE BOND, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE VIBE TRAIL.
UM, THE VIBE TRAIL WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2022 BOND.
I REMEMBER SITTING AND LOOKING AT THE MAP WHEN I VOTED FOR THE 2022 BOND EXCITEDLY.
YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE OUTDOORS.
YOU KNOW, DON'T LET THIS FIGURE FOOL YOU.
UM, I LOVE WALKING OUR DOGS AND I LOVE BEING OUTSIDE, AND I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE MAYOR AND COURTNEY GZA ARE TRYING TO CONDESCENDINGLY REWRITE HISTORY ABOUT THE TRAILS AND ABOUT THE 2022 ROAD.
BOND TRAILS ARE SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP MAKE KYLE A HOMETOWN, NOT JUST A CITY WHERE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN AUSTIN LIVE.
WE CAN'T REWRITING THE HISTORY OR DEMEAN PEOPLE.
WE NEED TO BUILD THESE TRAILS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THERE'S BEEN A, A PHRASE THAT GETS THROWN AROUND A LOT ABOUT ONCE VERSUS NEEDS, UM, AND ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD BE DOING OUR NEEDS BEFORE OUR WANTS.
OUR ENDLESS STUDIES DESIGNED TO KILL ROAD PROJECTS NEEDS ARE TRYING TO THROW TRAVIS MITCHELL IN JAIL.
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A NEED IS INCREASED LEGAL EXPENSES TO TRY TO REVISIT OLD LEGAL OPINIONS THAT YOU PERSONALLY DISAGREE WITH A WANT OR A NEED.MEANWHILE, OUR ROADS ARE FAR BEHIND.
OUR TRAILS AREN'T BUILT AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS KILLED.
ARE THOSE WANTS OR ARE THOSE NEEDS? I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL KILLED THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
YOU CAN TRY TO REFRAME IT HOWEVER YOU WANT, BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
AND I REMEMBER ATTENDING OPEN HOUSES SO EXCITED THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A SHELTER HERE, AND SO EXCITED THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE STRAIGHT DOG POPULATION IN EAST KYLE AND EAST OF KYLE.
UM, I'VE HAD SOME HARSH WORDS SO FAR, SOME STRONG WORDS, BUT DO YOU SEE HOW I SAID ALL OF THAT WITHOUT THREATENING ANY OF YOU? IT'S FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS.
UM, FRANKLY, THE POLITICAL CLIMATE IN KYLE IS TOXIC, AND I'LL ADMIT THAT I'M PART OF IT.
I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN SNARKY ON FACEBOOK AND I COULD CONTROL MYSELF BETTER, AND I'M GONNA COMMIT TO DOING THAT GOING FORWARD, BUT I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES TOO.
UM, BUT PART OF IT IS IT TRICKLES DOWN FROM THE TOP.
UM, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE FRANKLY DIFFICULT TO WATCH.
UM, IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THERE'S CONTRADICTING INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT AFTER COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND BASICALLY YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW FACEBOOK FIGHTS BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS TO EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE KEEPING KYLE MOVING OR WHATEVER THAT WEBSITE IS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO'S BEHIND IT EXACTLY, BUT I USE THAT AS A RESOURCE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS TO WATCH THESE MEETINGS OR TO WHEN I STATE AN OPINION.
AND A COUNCIL MEMBER SAYS, OH, WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA PACKET FROM AUGUST 12TH, 2023 ON PAGE 100 IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS THAT WILL HAVE YOUR ANSWER, IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WATCH A FIVE HOUR MEETING JUST TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
THERE SHOULD BE SUCCINCT INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC THAT TELLS US WHAT IS GOING ON.
WE HAVE A LACK OF RELIABLE INFORMATION IN THIS CITY, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
UM, BUT TALKING ABOUT THIS TOXIC POLITICAL CLIMATE, I THINK, AGAIN, I I WILL OWN MY PIECE OF IT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF IT CAN BE TRACED BACK TO 2023.
THERE IS A FACEBOOK GROUP CALLED KYLE CITIZEN OVERSIGHT, KYLE'S COUNCIL CITIZEN OVERSIGHT.
UM, THAT WHILE RUNNING FOR MAYOR IN 2023, UH, THE MAYOR TOOK OVER AND SHE GREW IT FROM A SMALL GROUP TO A NOW HUGE GROUP ON FACEBOOK OF OVER 2000 MEMBERS.
THAT GROWTH WAS FUELED BY ANGER AND HATE TOWARDS TRAVIS MITCHELL AND THE, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME.
THEN WHEN, UH, THE MAYOR WON ELECTION, SHE HANDED IT TO SOMEBODY WHO DID NOT LIVE IN THE STATE AND HAD ALSO LOST ELECTION TO TRAVIS MITCHELL.
UM, SHOCKER, THE END OF THE STORY IS THAT IT DIDN'T GET ANY BETTER.
UM, IT IS ONE OF THE MOST FOUL CORNERS OF FACEBOOK AND IT IT EVEN LED SOMEONE TO THROW THINGS AT CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT HONESTLY THE GROUP WOULD DIE AFTER THE HITLER JOKES, BUT EVEN THAT DIDN'T KILL THE GROUP.
UM, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST SPEAK ABOUT CITY BUSINESS? YEAH, THIS IS ABOUT CITY BUSINESS.
THIS IS ABOUT YOU STARTING A GROUP THAT HAS CREATED A TOXIC POLITICAL CLIMATE.
UM, SO HOW ABOUT THIS? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ARREST MAYOR UNTIL TRAVIS MITCHELL IS IN JAIL.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN CONSTANT HARASSING OF CLAUDIA WHO IS ON CITY COUNCIL.
SO CITY BUSINESS, UM, THEY HAVE TRIED TO DOX HER.
THEY HAVE TRIED TO ENACT A PERSONAL, UM, HARM ON HER, INCLUDING POSTING HER PLACE OF WORK AND HER HOME ADDRESS.
I HAVE NEVER TALKED ABOUT WHERE ANY OF YOU WORK, WHERE ANY OF YOU LIVE.
AND CLAUDIA ZAPATA DOES NOT DESERVE THAT.
AND IN FACT, I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS ENABLING PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ON CITY BOARDS, WHO ARE MAKING VEILED DEATH THREATS AGAINST ROBERT RIZZO AND WHO HAVE HARASSED HARASSED ME FROM MULTIPLE FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS AND CLAUDIA ZAA FROM MULTIPLE FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS.
I HAD TO BLOCK THEM TO STOP MY FEED FROM BEING FILLED WITH CONSTANT CLAUDIA HATE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ON COMMITTEES WHO I BELIEVE SHOULD NOT BE THERE.
AND SO I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE THINKING YOU'RE BEING WAY TOO POLITICAL BECAUSE YOU'RE ON A COMMITTEE.
YOU CAN HAVE THAT OPINION AND IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT UP WITH ME, YOU CAN.
BUT FIRST, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST AS POLITICAL AND MUCH WORSE THAN I AM.
NEXT, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE PARTISANSHIP OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, CLAUDIA AND LAURA LEE AND MARK ARE, SORRY I SHOULD SAY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ZAPATA HARRIS AND, UH,
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ANYWAY, ARE GETTING A LOT OF HATE FOR THEIR, UM, PARTISAN ACTIVITY, UH, FROM RIGHT HERE.UM, HOWEVER, I THINK THAT IT'S FAIR THAT OTHER PARTISAN ACTIVITY IS TALKED ABOUT AS WELL.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA, YOU ARE A DIE IN THE WOOL REPUBLICAN.
YOU ARE AT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CONVENTION, WHICH VOTED FOR A PLATFORM THAT WAS FRANKLY HOMOPHOBIC, SAYING THAT I DON'T DESERVE TO GET MARRIED, I DON'T DESERVE TO HAVE CHILDREN, AND THAT I AM ABNORMAL.
THE PLATFORM PRAISES THE CONFEDERACY AND OPPOSES RENAMING CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS.
DO YOU BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA, THAT WE SHOULD RENAME VETERANS DRIVE BACK TO REBEL DRIVE? UM, IT PREACHES THE RELIGIOUS SUPERIORITY OF CHRISTIANITY AND REFUSES TO ENACT LOCAL CONTROL OVER DATA CENTERS, WHICH I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA HAS PERSONAL CONNECTIONS TO DATA CENTERS THROUGH HER FAMILY THAT CREATE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MEDINA HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY OUTSPOKEN ABOUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT SILENT ABOUT DATA CENTERS.
UM, SPEAKING OF HOMOPHOBIA, THE MAYOR IMPLIED THAT PEOPLE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF PRIDE OR SPEAKING AGAINST HOMOPHOBIA ARE THE REAL BIGOTS.
UM, AND I'LL SAY THIS, IF SPEAKING OUT IN FAVOR OF MY RIGHTS, IF SPEAKING OUT AGAINST HOMOPHOBIA MAKES ME A BIGOT, THEN I'M A BIG OLD BIGOT.
UM, LAST THING, UM, WELL TWO THINGS.
IT IS FRUSTRATING TO ME THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING A CUT TO THEIR WATER RATES, DESPITE ALL THE COMPLAINTS, ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE ETJ IN $500,000 HOMES.
UM, MY WATER RATE IS STAYING THE SAME, AND IN FACT, IT MIGHT EVEN GO UP BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING A RATE CUT AND THEY DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAXES.
UM, I WANNA END BY SAYING STUFF THAT I LIKE ABOUT KYLE BECAUSE I'VE SAID A LOT OF THINGS THAT PROBABLY AREN'T MAKING A LOT OF FRIENDS.
I'M SURE IT'S GONNA CLIPPED AND GET PUT ONLINE AND GET ME MADE FUN OF, AND THAT'S FINE.
WHEN I LEFT SAN MARCUS, I THOUGHT I WAS NEVER COMING BACK.
I BOUGHT A HOUSE IN KYLE AND I HAVE MADE THIS PLACE MY HOME.
I LOVE THIS CITY, I LOVE DOWNTOWN.
I LOVE THE RESTAURANT, THE RESTAURANTS AND THE BUSINESSES.
I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN GET IT TOGETHER AND MAKE THIS A PLACE THAT WE ALL LOVE TO LIVE CONTINUALLY.
I THINK WE SHOULD ALL WORK ON GETTING ALONG.
AGAIN, I'M NOT ABOVE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S A TWO WAY STREET AND I FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA COME AT ME, I'M GONNA COME AT YOU.
BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA LOVE ME, I'M GONNA LOVE YOU AND I LOVE IT HERE, AND I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL BEGINS TAKING A FORWARD STANCE, LOOKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE KYLE BETTER IN THE FUTURE INSTEAD OF RE-LITIGATING OLD GRUDGES THAT MANY OF US WERE NOT EVEN HERE FOR.
I HAVE NEIL STAAL BY COMPARISON.
I'M SPEAKING OUT OF SELF-INTEREST BECAUSE I'M UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT TONIGHT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH I'M VICE CHAIR.
UM, SO GREETINGS TO COUNCIL MAYOR, MAYOR PRO, TIM, I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY.
UM, JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO LIGHT AND LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, I HOPE TO SERVE ANOTHER TERM SO THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH THE WEEDS OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE UNIFIED, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODE AND PERHAPS SAVE YOU SOME WORK, BUT AT LEAST BEGIN TO PUT THAT TOGETHER WITH THE, UH, MASTER PLAN AS WE REALLY, UH, ARE APPLYING IT TO LAND USE HERE IN TOWN.
AND I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE COMMISSION AND THIS COUNCIL HAS A REAL PROBLEM THAT'S DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS WITH STATE GOVERNANCE.
UM, AND, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENED TO US IN THE LEGISLATURE HAS BEEN SIGNED INTO LAW THAT IN FACT CAN, UM, LIMITATE WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO VERY MUCH WITH OUR OWN COMMUNITY.
THIS IS AN EXTREME EXAMPLE, BUT IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT IF TARGET WANTED TO CLOSE TODAY AND THE DEVELOPER DECIDED TO TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING, CLEAR THE PARKING LOT, HE COULD BUILD, UH, ANYTHING THERE, HE COULD BUILD, UH, MULTIFAMILY FAMILY RESIDENCES, FOR INSTANCE.
IT COULD BE BECOME APARTMENTS TECHNICALLY, IT COULD BECOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, ALTHOUGH THAT'S EVEN LESS IMP PLAUSIBLE.
SO WE'VE GOTTA FIGHT AHEAD OF US IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO, AND IT'S GONNA TAKE UNITY AMONG US ALL WORKING THROUGH THESE ISSUES TO ACTUALLY COME TO SOME, YOU KNOW, REAL PLAN AS HOW TO CONFRONT THESE, THESE THINGS.
UM, AND SO, UH, WITH THAT I JUST SAY GREETINGS TO ALL, AND I HOPE I HAVE YOUR SUPPORT TONIGHT FOR ANOTHER TERM.
I HAVE THOMAS SCHNICK MARIN CITY COUNCIL.
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I AM TOM SCHACK, A MEMBER OF THE HOMETOWN KYLE, HOA BOARD OF DIRECTORS.I COME TO YOU TONIGHT ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR AGENDA ITEM 25, A MASONRY WALL IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF CENTER STREET AND OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
SOME BACKGROUND IS NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THIS MASON MASONRY WALL.
BEFORE 2005, THERE WAS NOTHING ON NORTH OLD STAGE COACH ROAD EXCEPT ONE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FAR, FAR OUT OF TOWN.
THE HOMETOWN KYLE BUILDERS ESTABLISHED THE FIRST RESIDENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE ON OLD STAGE COACH STARTING IN 2005.
THE SOUTHERNMOST PORTION OF A HOMETOWN KYLE WAS BUILT OUT IN 2015 WHEN THERE WAS STILL NOTHING ELSE ON OLD STAGE COACH.
IN THOSE TIMES, A SIX FOOT WOODEN BOUNDARY BOUNDARY FENCE WAS CONSIDERED SUFFICIENT AT THAT CORNER.
SINCE THEN, MULTIPLE SUBDIVISIONS AND COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE BEEN BUILT ALONG WEST AND NORTH OF OLD STAGE COACH SIX CREEKS, CYPRUS FOREST, MORE SIX CREEKS, CLARA VISTA, MORE SIX CREEKS.
IT'S BEEN A FLOOD AND TO THE SOUTH.
WHAT, UH, BLANCO VISTA HAS BEEN EXPANDING FOR YEARS ALONG WITH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES.
THE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED SO MUCH ON OLD STAGE COACH, AND AT THAT INTERSECTION, THE UPGRADING BOTH BECAME A 2022 ROAD BOND PROJECT.
OUR HOMETOWN, KYLE NEIGHBORS AT THAT INTERSECTION HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR ATTENTION TO THE VASTLY INCREASED TRAFFIC, SAFETY AND NOISE ISSUES FOR YEARS.
VIDEOS AND SOUND RECORDINGS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW, DOCUMENTING THE HAZARDOUS AND NOXIOUS CONDITIONS AT THAT INTERSECTION WITH NO EFFECTIVE RESPONSE.
AND THE HOA AND OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE CITY AND ROAD PLANNERS FOR NEAR THREE YEARS, EXPLICITLY ASKING FOR RELIEF FOR OUR SAFETY CONCERNS.
NOW, THE 2022 HOME, UH, UH, ROAD BONDS HOPE TO IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION FOR TRAFFIC FLOW, BUT THOSE PLANS DO LITTLE TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
AT THAT CORNER, OUR HOMETOWN, KYLE, NEIGHBORS THERE ARE IN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES AND PROPERTY AND WORN DOWN BY THE CONTINUAL EXCESSIVE NOISE.
THE EXISTING WOODEN BOUNDARY FENCE IS NOW CLEARLY INADEQUATE AGAINST THE DRAMATICALLY CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
WE WOULD ASK THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION MADE NECESSARY BY THOSE SAME NEW TRAFFIC CONDITIONS INCLUDE REMEDIATION AGAINST THESE SA SAFETY AND NOISE ISSUES AT THAT INTERSECTION.
FOR THE SMALL NUMBER OF HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNERS MOST CRITICALLY AFFECTED THE MASONRY WALL AND AGENDA ITEM 25 WOULD BE THE NECESSARY REMEDY FOR THOSE PROBLEMS ALLEVIATING THE CONTINU, CONTINUING SAFETY, FEARS AND DISTRESS OF OUR HOMEOWNERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEM 25.
RIGHT UP NEXT WE HAVE LAURA HALL.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE IN KYLE FOR OVER 20 YEARS, A VOTING MEMBER OF YOUR CITY.
I AM HERE TO SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT TOM JUST SAID IN REGARDS TO THE SAFETY OF THE INTERSECTION.
THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25.
HE'S HERE TO REPRESENT THE HOAI AM ONE OF MANY RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS URGING YOU TO, TO PLEASE APPROVE THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR THE SAFETY OF THE INTERSECTION AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.
THIS HAS BEEN A FEW YEARS IN THE MAKING, AND I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH TIME RIGHT NOW WITH FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY BEING SUCH A HUGE TOPIC OF CONSIDERATION, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY AS WELL, AND TEMPERING THAT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT MASONRY WALL IS GOING TO BE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, NOT ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S ALSO A SAFETY PRECAUTION FOR THE DRIVERS.
UH, I REALLY URGE YOU TO APPROVE AGENDA NUMBER 25.
UM, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS ANGELA DEION AND I AM A RESIDENT OF KYLE.
I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH AN ONGOING NOISE, REPETITIVE NOISE COMING FROM MY NEIGHBORS FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS NOW.
I HAVE TRIED TO HANDLE THIS THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS.
I CONTACTED 3 1 1 AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THE SOUND HAS BEEN
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INVESTIGATED AND MEASURED.TODAY I SPOKE WITH CHARLOTTE CHARLIE LUDENS, UM, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR I WAS REFERRED TO REGARDING THIS MATTER.
SHE EXPLAINED THAT BECAUSE THE SOUND FALLS BELOW THE CITY'S DECIBEL LIMITS CODE ENFORCEMENT IS UNABLE TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION UNDER THE CURRENT STANDARD.
AND SHE RECOMMENDED THAT I BRING MY CONCERNS BEFORE COUNSEL.
MY CONCERN IS THAT THAT DECIBEL LEVEL ALONE DOES NOT NECESSARILY TELL THE WHOLE STORY.
THAT IS, THIS IS AN OCCASIONAL LAWN EQUIPMENT CONSTRUCTION, A PARTY, OR NORMAL NEIGHBORHOOD ACTIVITY.
IT IS A REPETITIVE HIGH PITCHED ELECTRONIC CHIRPING SOUND THAT CONTINUES FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.
THE IMPACT OF MY HOUSEHOLD IS VERY REAL.
MY CHILDREN HAVE COMPLAINED THAT THE SOUND BOTHERS THEIR EARS AND THEY DON'T WANNA STAY OUTSIDE AND PLAY BALL WHEN IT'S OCCURRING.
I HAVE ALSO SPOKEN WITH A NEIGHBOR ACROSS FROM ME WHOSE CHILD HAS INDEPENDENTLY COMPLAINED ABOUT THE SOUND AS WELL.
IT HAS AFFECTED HOW I USE MY OWN HOME.
FRIENDS AND FAMILY HAVE BECOME RELUCTANT TO SPEND TIME AT MY HOUSE BECAUSE OF IT.
AND IT HAS BECOME EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SIMPLY RELAX AND ENJOY MY OWN PROPERTY.
THIS HAS ALSO BECOME A SERIOUS HEALTH AND WELLBEING CONCERN FOR ME.
THE CONSTANT REPETITIVE SOUND CAUSES SIGNIFICANT STRESS AND DISTRESS.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I HAVE DIFFICULTY CONCENTRATING OR THINKING CLEARLY, AND I HAVE SOMETIMES DO NOT EVEN WANT TO LEAVE MY HOUSE BECAUSE I KNOW I WILL HEAR, HAVE TO HEAR IT.
IT IS AFFECTING ME, MY MENTAL WELLBEING AND MY ABILITY TO BE, FEEL COMFORTABLE AT AND AT PEACE IN MY OWN HOME.
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION RECOGNIZES ENVIRONMENTAL NOISE AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN AND REPORTS THAT EXCESSIVE OR CHRONIC NOISE EXPOSURE CAN EX CONTRIBUTE TO ANNOYANCE AND STRESS, SLEEP DISTURBANCE, COGNITIVE EFFECTS, CARDIOVASCULAR EFFECTS, AND MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS. I'M NOT ASKING THE CITY TO DETERMINE A MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS.
I'M ASKING THAT THE REAL HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACT OF PERSISTENT REPETITIVE NOISE BE CONSIDERED EVEN WHEN A SINGLE DECIBEL READING FALLS BELOW THE CURRENT LIMIT.
I HAVE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS NOW.
I UNDERSTAND THAT LIVING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD MEANS HEARING OTHER PEOPLE, PETS, VEHICLES, LAWN EQUIPMENT, CHILDREN, AND EVERYDAY LIFE.
I'M NOT ASKING THE CITY TO CREATE AN UNREASONABLE EXCEPTION OF SILENCE.
WHAT REMEDY DOES A RESIDENT HAVE WHEN A REPETITIVE SOUND, REPETITIVE SOUND SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERES WITH THE USE AND ENJOYMENT OF THEIR PROPERTY, BUT DOESN'T EXCEED A NUMERICAL DECIBEL LIMIT IF THE CITY'S CURRENT ORDINANCE LEAVES CODE ENFORCEMENT UNABLE TO ADDRESS THAT SITUATION? I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE ORDINANCE SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR FACTORS OTHER THAN VOLUME, INCLUDING FREQUENCY, DURATION, REP, REPETITION, PITCH, AND THE EFFECT ON SOUNDING RESIDENTS.
I HAVE SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE CHANNELS.
I DON'T WANNA KEEP FILING COMPLAINTS.
I DON'T WANT ON ON ONGOING DISPUTE WITH MY NEIGHBOR.
I SIMPLY WANNA BE ABLE TO ENJOY MY HOME, HAVE MY CHILDREN PLAY OUTSIDE, AND HAVE MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY VISIT WITHOUT THIS CONSTANT DISTURBANCE.
AND I'M JUST ASKING THE CITY TO HELP FINDING A REASONABLE SOLUTION.
I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE GUIDANCE ON WHAT MY NEXT STEP SHOULD BE AND WHO WITH THE CITY I SHOULD FOLLOW UP WITH AFTER TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY CONCERNS.
UM, UM, NEXT I HAVE TIA HORTON MAYOR.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET HER INFORMATION FOR US ON THAT? ON THAT, UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL.
FOR THE PAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS, MY FAMILY AND I HAVE ASKED THE CITY TO CONSIDER THE IMPACT.
THIS ROUNDABOUT PROJECT AT CENTER STREET AND OLD STAGE COACH ROAD HAS HAD AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE ON OUR HOME, OUR SAFETY AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
FROM THE BEGINNING, OUR CONCERN HAS NEVER BEEN STOPPING PROGRESS.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR CITY IS GROWING AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NECESSARY, BUT PROGRESS SHOULD NOT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF FAMILIES WHO HAVE LIVED HERE ALREADY.
THIS PROJECT MOVES TRAFFIC CLOSER TO OUR FENCE LINE AND FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGES WHAT HAPPENS DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR HOME.
FOR YEARS, I'VE ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONDUCT SAFETY STUDIES AND TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR SPECIFIC SITUATION.
EVENTUALLY, THE CITY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION AND NEW TRAFFIC PATTERN WOULD IMPACT OUR YARD, OUR HOME, AND OUR SAFETY.
NEW LEADERSHIP HAS TAKEN TIME TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A BARRIER TO KEEP CARS OUT OF OUR BACKYARD, REDUCE NOISE AND LIMIT LIGHT POLLUTION.
AND WE ARE BRINGING THE REQUEST TO COUNCIL.
THIS ISN'T JUST OUR HOME AFFECTED, BUT THE WHOLE CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION.
WE ARE ALREADY LIVING WITH THE IMPACTS OF CONSTANT CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS, HONKING, FLASHING LIGHTS INTO OUR HOME, WHICH WILL ONLY GET WORSE AS THE ROAD IS BROUGHT CLOSER TO OUR HOME.
THE INCREASED TRAFFIC NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION HAVE DRAMATICALLY CHANGED OUR ABILITY TO ENJOY OUR HOME.
OUR BACKYARD NO LONGER FEELS LIKE THE PRIVATE, PEACEFUL, AND SAFE PLACE IT ONCE WAS.
WE REGULARLY WITNESS VEHICLES RUN OFF THE ROAD ACCIDENTS AND DRIVERS FAILING TO PAY ATTENTION TO
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THE FACT THAT THEY ARE CARELESSLY DRIVING BY OUR HOME.OUR CHILDREN ARE EIGHT AND 12, AND WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO QUESTION WHETHER THEY CAN SAFELY ENJOY THEIR OWN YARD.
OUR HOME IS ALSO OUR FAMILY'S LARGEST FINANCIAL ASSET.
WHEN A CITY PROJECT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THE SAFETY, PRIVACY, USABILITY, AND POTENTIALLY THE VALUE OF SOMEONE'S PROPERTY, PROTECTING THAT HOMEOWNER SHOULD BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE PROJECT'S COST.
WHEN THE CITY'S, WHEN THE CITY BUDGETS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE SHOULD BE FUNDING BUILT INTO THOSE PROJECTS FOR REASONABLE PROTECTIONS FOR FAMILIES MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED.
WHETHER THAT MEANS APPROPRIATE BARRIERS, FENCING, LANDSCAPING, LIGHT LIGHTING, MITIGATION, SOUND REDUCTION, OR OTHER SAFETY MEASURES.
HISTORICALLY, THE CITY LEADERS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO TELL US, THE TAXPAYERS WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR, BUT NEVER FOLLOW THROUGH.
I FEAR MY FAMILY'S SAFETY WILL BE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE EMPTY PROMISES.
IT HAS TAKEN MORE THAN THREE YEARS TO DECIDE WHETHER PROTECTING MY CHILDREN'S SAFETY AND ABILITY TO ENJOY THEIR HOME IS IN THE BUDGET.
I ALSO HAVE TO ASK IF THIS WERE HAPPENING IN THE BACKYARD OF SOMEONE IN CITY LEADERSHIP, WOULD THESE PROTECTIONS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE FROM THE BEGINNING? PLEASE REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT ENGINEERING PLANS, TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND BUDGETS, THERE ARE REAL FAMILIES LIVING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THOSE LINES.
ON A MAP, OUR SAFETY, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE HOMES, WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO BUILD AND PROTECT, DESERVE TO BE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.
AFTER THREE AND A HALF YEARS OF ADVOCATING FOR MY FAMILY, I AM SIMPLY ASKING THE CITY TO DO WHAT I BELIEVE EVERY RESIDENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPECT FROM THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, HEAR US, PROTECT US, AND MAKE OUR SAFETY A PRIORITY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M SPEAKING IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 27 ON SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025.
THE PREVIOUS PARK DIRECTOR ASKED FOR INPUT ON HOW THE CROOK BUILDING COULD BE UTILIZED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU MY FEEDBACK THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE PARKS DIRECTOR.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THE GROUP BUILDING TO BE USED AS A COMMUNITY PERFORMING ARTS AND CULTURAL CENTER, A PLACE WHERE RESIDENTS CAN EXPERIENCE THE ARTS THROUGH INTIMATE MUSICAL CONCERTS, DANCE PERFORMANCES, ART EXHIBITS, AND HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL WORKSHOPS AND EVENTS.
I'M HOPING THE BUILDING CONTINUES TO BE USED FOR PRIVATE FAMILY EVENTS DUE TO THE BUILDING'S UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER.
THE EVENTS WOULD ENHANCE THE AUDIENCE, PARTI THE AUDIENCE EXPERIENCES AND THE SURROUNDINGS WOULD BECOME PART OF THE MEMORY.
THE BUILDING'S NATURAL LIGHT AND DESIGN WOULD ALSO ENHANCE THE CONCERTS AND EVENTS.
MOST IMPORTANT, WE WOULD PRESERVE LOCAL HISTORY AND CULTURE.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SPECIAL HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE GATHER IN A PLACE WITH HISTORY.
IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAYING, I ATTENDED AN EVENT IN KYLE AS OPPOSED TO SAYING I SAW A PERFORMANCE IN DOWNTOWN KYLE IN A BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC CITY HALL THAT WAS BUILT IN 1912.
PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS OF THE UTILIZATION OF THE CROOK BUILDING.
AND I'M REQUESTING THAT THIS ITEM BE MOVED UP ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
IF I, IF I SAID THAT WRONG, LET ME KNOW.
HI, UM, I'M A LIBERTARIAN, WHICH MEANS I HAVE NO FRIENDS, SO I DIDN'T GET ANY EXTRA THREE MINUTES.
BUT WHAT IT MEANS ABOUT ME TONIGHT IS THAT I, THE MOST I EXPECT FROM GOVERNMENT IS FOR IT TO NOT BOTHER ME TOO MUCH.
BUT YOU GUYS THIS YEAR HAVE WAY EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS FROM GOVERNMENT.
YOU GUYS TOOK AN INHERITED $4.8 MILLION DEFICIT FROM THE PREVIOUS, FROM THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL.
A 4.7, $4.7 MILLION DEFICIT THAT, THAT YOU INHERITED FROM THE BUDGET THAT YOU INHERITED.
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AND YOU CLOSE THAT ALL IN ONE SINGLE YEAR.AND APPARENTLY YOU'RE NOT DONE YET FOR ANYONE WHO IS COM NOT COMPLETELY FAMILIAR WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, AGENDA TONIGHT.
YOU GUYS SIFTED THROUGH THE CITY'S COUCH CUSHIONS AND YOU FOUND ANOTHER TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE DON'T OWE TO SOMEONE, WHICH IS AWESOME.
IF YOU WANNA PUT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IN MY POCKET, I WOULDN'T MIND.
BUT ANYWAY, SO YOU GUYS, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY COUNCIL, IT'S JUST, IT'S EVERYONE IN THE GOVERNMENT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THIS YEAR.
BUT WE'VE GOTTA GET SOMEONE WHO CAN DO ACCOUNTING IN OUR GOVERNMENT.
UM, THE, THE PROBLEM WAS NEVER A $14.2 MILLION PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOUTING.
IT'S BEEN A $9.5 MILLION SHORTAGE IN OUR GENERAL FUND.
THE $14.2 MILLION NUMBER COMES FROM COUNTING THE DEFICIT TWICE.
SOUNDS KIND OF SIMILAR TO THE PROBLEM THAT YOU FOUND IN AGENDA NUMBER 13.
SO WE GOTTA GET SOMEONE DOING ACCOUNTING TO, SO THESE PROBLEMS DON'T HAPPEN ANYMORE.
I HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING TO, TO TALK ABOUT ALSO.
UM, KYLE ISN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT TAKES HIS PROPERTY TAXES FROM US.
HAYES COUNTY DOES ALSO AND HA HAYES COUNTY JUDGE RUBEN BERA WITH A, WITH A PETITION WITH ONLY 142 SIGNATURES ON IT IS PUT IS HAS CREATED A BALLOT MEASURE.
AND I'M GONNA READ WHAT THE BALLOT MEASURE IS, THE CREATION OF A HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THE LEVY OF A TAX NOT TO EXCEED 75 CENTS ON EACH A HUNDRED DOLLARS OF TAXABLE VALUE OF PROPERTY TAXABLE BY THE DISTRICT.
75 CENTS IS HIGHER THAN WHAT TEXAS OR THAN WHAT KYLE ASKS US.
IT'S HIGHER THAN WHAT FROM US.
IT'S HIGHER THAN WHAT THE COUNTY DOES.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE ON THE BALLOT IN MAY.
SO I JUST, I'M NOT GONNA TELL ANYONE WHAT TO VOTE FOR, BUT I, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO VOTE ON THE OFF, OFF MAY ELECTION THAT HAS A 75 CENT TAX ON IT.
ALL RIGHT, UP NEXT I HAVE BRIDGETTE GRIFFIN.
OKAY, RIGHT UP NEXT I HAVE TRACY CHU.
MAYOR PROTO AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND TO THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS TRACY, UH, SHIELD AND I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF KYLE.
NEXT FRIDAY IS GOING TO BE THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF A HORRIBLE TRAGEDY FOR OUR NATION.
I APPRECIATE AND THANK OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE VFW, THE LADIES' AUXILIARY AND, UM, AMVETS FOR PUTTING ON AND HOSTING A WONDERFUL CEREMONY THAT WILL BE HAPPEN AT HEROES MEMORIAL AT 9:30 AM AND ANYBODY WHO CAN COME, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE COME.
BUT THERE ARE THOSE OF US WHO, MYSELF, I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN ON A CONFERENCE, BUT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE TO WORK AND SO WE CANNOT BE THERE.
SO PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER, WE LOST A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DAY.
THOSE WHO JUST WENT TO WORK, THOSE WHO SACRIFICED THEMSELVES TO HELP SAVE THOSE PEOPLE, MEN AND WOMEN AND OUR ARMED FORCES WHO THEN WENT TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR THOSE AFOREMENTIONED PEOPLE.
PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER AND TO HONOR THAT DAY IS NOT A DAY OF INFAMY OF ME, BUT WE STILL SHOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER FORGET.
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SO I JUST PLEAD WITH EVERYBODY TO PLEASE JUST TAKE A MOMENT THAT DAY TO REMEMBER.YOU OKAY? UM, NEXT I HAVE ALAN ES THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, EVERYONE.
I'M A RESIDENT AND I'M EITHER CHAIR OR CO-CHAIR FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS OF THE PARKINSON RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.
AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES IN STAFF THERE.
UM, WE HAVE A MEETING EVERY MONTH, BUT WE DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT THOSE STAFF CHANGES.
BUT I SEE THE WORKERS REGULARLY AND THEY ARE DELIGHTED FOR THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THERE.
THE FORMER ADMINISTRATION WAS $2 MILLION IN THE HOLE.
UH, THE ADVISORY BOARD WAS NEVER ALERTED TO THAT.
THEY MADE NO PLANS FOR THE CREEK BUILDING EXCEPT TO CLOSE IT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WHILE THEY WERE REMODELED IT TO DECREASE THE CAPACITY INSIDE.
I ALSO BLAME THE FORMER FORMER CITY MANAGER BECAUSE HE OVERSAW ALL THAT DEBT ACCUMULATION.
UM, FURTHERMORE, I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN MOVE ITEM NUMBER 27 UP ABOUT THE REPURPOSING OF THE CREEK HISTORIC CITY HALL AND, UM, KYLE OPERA HOUSE TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA.
I ALSO WANNA ADDRESS THE ACOUSTICS IN THAT BUILDING.
A CUBICLE WILL NOT STOP THE SOUND FROM BOUNCING OFF ALL OF THE BRICK WALLS.
UM, SO AS THEY ANALYZE WHETHER IT CAN BE REPURPOSED THAT WAY, I ASK THEM TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE ACOUSTICS WHEN THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE INSIDE.
REPUBLIC DRIVE HAS SOME GIANT, UH, CONFERENCE ROOMS THAT ARE NOT THAT OFTEN MU USED.
THE LIBRARY HAS TWO LARGE MEETING ROOMS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION THAT THE KRUG BUILDING HAS.
I WANNA THANK, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS FOR THE MEETING LAST THURSDAY.
THAT WAS THE MOST TRUTHFUL, HEARTFELT STATEMENT ABOUT THE EAST WEST PROBLEMS. I ALSO WANNA TALK ABOUT THE VIBE.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SOLD THAT THIS WAS AN EAST WEST CONNECTOR, BUT NOBODY HAS TALKED TO TXDOT OR UNION PACIFIC ABOUT CROSSING THE TRACKS OR THE HIGHWAY.
SO I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN MISLED.
I ALSO FEEL LIKE THE 2022 BOND SAID SIDEWALKS AND ROADS.
AND I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR PARKS AND REC, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE TRUTH AND SEE WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON.
UM, NEXT I HAVE MIGUEL ZUNIGA.
UM, I'M GONNA TAKE PAUSE EXTRA MINUTES AND TRACY'S AS WELL.
UM, I'M RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO.
AND, UH, WHEN I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH RESIDENTS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ASK ME, WELL, WELL, I ASK 'EM, DO YOU WANT ROADS? AND THEN THEY SAY, YES, I WOULD LOVE ROADS ZUNIGA.
I SAID, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR 'EM WITH BONDS.
AND SO WHEN I'VE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IN BUDGETS, UM, THEY SAY, OH, WELL THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
I SAY, YEAH, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION RIGHT NOW IN OUR CURRENT POLITICS ON DIFFERENT WEB PAGES WHERE A LOT OF MISINFORMATION IS COMING SOMETIMES WITHOUT THE FACTS.
AND IT'S DISTORTING, UM, THE PERCEPTION OF WHAT THE REALITY REALLY IS WITH THE BONDS.
AND SO I HAD TO TAKE IT UPON MYSELF TO CREATE LIKE AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT WHERE, AND YOU CAN FACT CHECK IT ALL, BUT IT KIND OF DESCRIBES WHAT OCCURRED.
THIS WAS LIKE A SLOW THING THAT WAS GROWING FROM 2022.
AND MAYOR MITCHELL AT THE TIME SAID, WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE WORKED IN THOSE BUDGET SESSIONS, THIS IS GONNA RESULT IN A 20% OR BASICALLY A TAX RATE INCREASE UP TO ALMOST 59 CENTS.
HE SAID THAT WHEN WE PASSED THAT BUDGET, BUT WE DIDN'T PAY FOR THOSE ROADS AT THAT TIME.
THEY WERE GONNA GET BE PAID FOR IN 2025.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT TAX RATE REACHED THAT 59 CENTS.
SO I WANNA JUST READ THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT NOT TO POINT FINGERS.
AND SINCE I HAVE EXTRA TIME, THEN I WANNA GIVE YOU GUYS WHAT WE REALLY NEED
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TO BE TALKING ABOUT SO THAT WE CAN PUT A LOT OF THIS TO BED AND START TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE REAL ISSUES OF AFFORDABILITY AND THINGS THAT OUR RESIDENTS NEED AND THEY NEED ROADS.OKAY? SO DURING MY ADMINISTRATION, UM, THE CITY OF KYLE OPERATED ON A CLEAR, PROACTIVE PRINCIPLE, BUILD A STRONG FOUNDATION TODAY SO OUR COMMUNITY CAN THRIVE TOMORROW.
WE, WE MAINTAINED A BALANCED BUDGET, STIMULATED ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND MADE HISTORIC STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS.
THOSE ARE INVESTMENTS OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR SAY.
STATED CLEARLY AND, AND REPEATEDLY ON THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT OUR MUNICIPAL BUDGET WAS, WAS STRUCTURALLY BALANCED.
REVENUES WERE, UM, CONSISTENTLY STRONG AND OUR FISCAL ESTIMATES WERE DELIBERATELY CONSERVATIVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
WE, UM, INTENTIONALLY HELD THE KYLE PROPERTY TAX RATE, UM, MUCH LOWER THAN IT NEEDED TO BE, UM, TO PROTECT THE HOUSEHOLD'S BUDGETS.
UH, AS OUR COMMUNITY GREW, HOWEVER, UM, WE SAFELY ABSORBED INCREASED DEBT SERVICE AND INTEREST PAYMENTS, UH, TIED TO OUR LONG-TERM INVESTMENTS.
THIS WAS THAT THREE MINUTES? YEP, ME THREE MORE.
SO THIS REQUIRED A SLIGHT RESPONSIBLE ADJUSTMENT OF THE TAX RATE, UH, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR, UH, EXPLICIT OBLIGATIONS.
SO, LONG STORY SHORT, GUYS, 'CAUSE I DO HAVE IT ON MY PAGE, NOBODY COULD REALLY PREDICT THE SLOWDOWN IN THE ECONOMIC TARIFFS, INFLATION, THE DEBT THAT WAS COMING.
UH, WE HAD A BAD ECONOMY YEAR, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA FOREVER, UH, STAY AWAY.
WE'RE STILL IN A VERY STRONG ECONOMIC CORRIDOR WHERE IF WE, UM, USE OUR RESOURCES, OUR CREATIVITY, AND THE REASON THE BUDGET THAT WE HAD THAT YEAR, THE 600 MILLION WAS BECAUSE WE PUT EXECUTIVE LEVEL PEOPLE HERE.
WE PUT TRANSPORTATION DIRECTORS, UH, FIRST CLASS WATER DIRECTORS, WASTEWATER PLANNERS.
WE HAD THESE PROGRAM MANAGERS THAT KNEW HOW TO EXECUTE THESE PROGRAMS SO THAT THE ROAD BOND, UH, WE WOULDN'T LOSE MONEY TO CONSULTANTS AND THIRD PARTIES.
WE WANTED TO CREATE A BUILD INSIDE OUR CITY TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE EFFICIENCY AND DELIVER THAT SERVICE BECAUSE OUR RESIDENTS HAD BEEN WAITING FOR DECADES.
SO NOW WHEN WE TAKE THIS REACTIVE APPROACH OF WHERE WE, WE PANIC, THAT'S NOT LEADERSHIP.
LEADERSHIP HAS TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE UPS AND DOWNS.
THE GENTLEMAN JUST HERE SAID 9 MILLION, SOMEONE SAID 14.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD ALWAYS PHASE IN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GUT OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS, OUR, UM, TALENT HERE, WHICH IS NOW IS GOING TO, UM, CAUSE MORE TALENT TO LEAVE BECAUSE WHY WOULD YOU WANNA WORK HERE? AS MR. PAUL HILL SAID, BUT WE'VE HAD PROFESSIONALS HERE WHO KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
THINGS WERE GETTING COORDINATED SO THAT WE COULD MAKE THOSE ROADS HAPPEN.
WE, WE MADE LIKE THREE OF THEM, UM, UH, SHOVEL READY.
AND WHEN I LEFT, MOST OF 'EM WERE AT 70% CONSTRUCTION DESIGNS.
BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU START REDESIGNING THEM, YOU'RE REALLY GONNA HURT THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THOSE ROADS THE MOST.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THEY ARE ON TIGHT BUDGETS.
THEY, UM, DON'T HAVE HIGH INCOMES.
AND HISTORICALLY THEY'VE SEEN THAT THE BONDS DON'T, UM, GO TO OTHER RESOURCE AREAS.
SO NOW WHAT WE WERE REALLY DOING IS RECREATING THE CYCLE THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICAL FOR YEARS, WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FAITH IN GOVERNMENT BECAUSE WHEN THEY PASS A BOND, THEY DON'T SEE THE RESULTS.
SO WE ARE LIKE DISENFRANCHISING THESE RESIDENTS AGAIN, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY BIGGEST WORRY IS LIKE I'M TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT THE BONDS WILL HELP US IN THE NEXT GENERATION.
MAYBE NOT NOW, YOU KNOW? UM, UM, BUT IN THE FUTURE WE WILL HAVE A BETTER CITY.
HOPEFULLY IT'S GONNA CREATE BETTER JOBS.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT.
SO NOT TO LEAVE IT NEGATIVELY, UM, I WANNA NOW GIVE YOU GUYS WHAT WE SHOULD BE REALLY DISCUSSING.
HOUSING, RETAIL, TRAFFIC, TAXES.
UM, WE TALK ABOUT THESE LIKE THEY'RE FOUR SEPARATE THINGS, BUT IT'S REALLY ONE THING, RIGHT? UM, THEY'RE ALL ONE GROWTH PROBLEM.
SO THIS IS MY NEXT THREE MINUTES.
THEY'RE ALL ONE THAT'S, YOU'VE ALREADY HAD TWO, RIGHT? BUT I SAID I WAS GONNA HAVE THREE FROM PAUL THAT HE DIDN'T USE.
HE DIDN'T, I DUNNO HOW MANY I HAD LEFT.
YEAH, I THINK HE HAD ONE LEFT.
AND THEN, OKAY, WELL THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, UP NEXT I HAVE KENNETH ROCHA.
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I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR.SO I'M GONNA START OFF BY SAYING EVERYTHING THAT OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM HOMETOWN KYLE AND WHAT THEY'RE ADVOCATING FOR IS TRUE FROM 2025.
WE'VE BEEN ASKING WHEN WE FIRST GOT INTRODUCED TO SCHEMATICS FOR OLD STAGE COACH ROAD.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT SINCE 20 19, 20 20, 20 24, 20 22.
BUT WE WERE ACTUALLY SHOWN THE SCHEMATIC DURING, UM, AN OPEN HOUSE.
THAT'S WHEN WE KNEW WHERE THE VIBE WAS GOING.
THAT'S WHEN WE KNEW WHERE THE SIDEWALKS WERE.
THAT'S WHEN WE KNEW WHERE POTENTIALLY THE TRAIL AMENITIES WERE GOING TO GO.
BUT WE ALSO KNEW THAT THERE WAS NO VEHICLE CONTAINMENT DEVICES.
SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL INTERSECTIONS, I'M IN THE DEAD CENTER OF OLD STAGE COACH ROAD AND I'VE HAD THREE CARS LEAVE THE ROAD AND ENTER INTO MY BACKYARD.
IT'S NOT, UM, A GUESS THAT IT WILL HAPPEN.
NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WILL ACTUALLY CONTAIN THE VEHICLES.
ONE THING THAT MAYOR PROTE BRINGS UP IS HUMAN ERROR, WHICH IS SPEED.
AND OLD STAGE COACH ROAD HAS BECOME A DRAG STRIP.
WHEN YOU ADD THAT MUCH TRAFFIC VOLUME, IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.
WHEN YOU ADD MORE WIDTH FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, I CAN GO FASTER, THEY'RE GONNA DO IT RIGHT.
WHEN WE ASKED IN 2025 WHAT VEHICLE CONTAINMENT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED, THE GEC, OUR GEC REPLIED WITH THAT VEHICLE CONTAINMENT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED.
SAFETY OF THE CLEAR ZONES FOR ERRANT VEHICLES, MEANING IF THERE'S SPACE, THERE'S A PLACE FOR THAT VEHICLE TO GO.
AND HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T RUN INTO ANYTHING ELSE.
WE'VE BEEN ASKING, BEGGING FOR A SOLUTION FROM THE INTERSECTION ALL ALONG.
OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, WHAT ABOUT US THAT ARE ROAD ADJACENT? HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR KIDS IN OUR BACKYARD AREN'T GONNA BE HIT BY CARS LEAVING THE ROADWAY? I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT, THE CURB HEIGHT, KEEPS THE VEHICLE INTO THE ROAD, I HOPE.
BUT THIS, AND I AND MY PEERS ON THE ETHICS COMMISSION, UH, SO PAUL AND MIGUEL, THEY'RE RIGHT.
THERE IS A SYSTEMIC PROBLEM WITH HOW THE CITY OF KYLE IS COMMUNICATING WITH ITS COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
IT'S CREATING CONFUSION AND YOU HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REPAIR THAT.
ONE LAST THING, THE CAUSE FOR THE OVERRUNS IN OUR ROAD BOND, OUR GEC SAID WE DIDN'T PROPERLY TARGET THE COST FOR UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, BUT LOOK AT THE AMENDMENTS.
YOU SEE MILLION DOLLAR AMENDMENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR PEC, FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR UTILITY COORDINATION THAT TELLS OUR STORY.
I HAVE MRS. CHAPPA, MS. ANGELINA CHAPPA.
I'M IN MALINA CHOPPA AND I LIVE IN KYLE ON CENTER STREET.
UM, LAST WEEK I SAID THAT I LIVED ON THE OFF SYSTEM CONSTRUCTION
I'M IN THE ON
I I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE ARE COMING WITH THE NEWS PROBLEMS YOU HAVE.
AND I, I THOUGHT MINES WERE JUST GONNA BE MEMORIES, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT MINE ARE PROBLEMS, PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE LIVED WITH AND THAT IS ABOUT THE CHANGES MADE IN THE KYLE'S HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I STARTED NOTICING THEM, I BELIEVE RIGHT AROUND THE, UH, 2000 YEAR WHEN OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS STARTED
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MAKING HOME RULES.THEIR DECISION WAS TO DIVIDE THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ON NORTH AND SOUTH CENTER STREET INTO BUSINESS DISTRICTS.
ANOTHER DECISION MADE WAS THE TO DIVIDE THE RESIDENTS OF NORTH AND SOUTH CENTER STREET.
AND THEY, THE DIFFERENCE, UH, CENTER STREET INTO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
THEY, UM, RIGHT NOW THEY ARE DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT FOUR.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS DECISION TURNED THE RESIDENTS AGAINST EACH OTHER AS A RESIDENT LIVING IN THE HISTORICAL CBD ONE AREA IS NOT AT ALL PLEASANT.
THE CITY'S PLAN IS TO SECURE FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING.
EVERY TIME A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MASTER PLAN BUSINESS PROPOSALS OR INDIVIDUALS VISIONS IN ORDINANCE CAN, CAN BE CHANGED OR MADE TO FIT THE VISIONS.
AS A RESIDENT, I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE.
IN MY OPINION, THE CITY DOES NOT PROTECT THE RESIDENTS.
UM, COUNCIL MCKINNEY, AT LAST WEEK'S, UM, MEETING THAT YOU HAD ABOUT THE, WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BIKE RIGHTS AND YOU BROUGHT UP THE WORD REVITALIZATION.
I HEARD THAT, UM, EVIDENTLY THERE WAS A DOWN A DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PLAN IN TWO 2009 AND UPDATED ON 2019.
DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION WAS FORMER COUNCILMAN DEX S DIVISION.
IN 2019, THE ASSOCIATION MADE A WALKING TOUR INCOME.
EVIDENTLY THE REVITALIZATION HAS BEEN IGNORED FOR THE SECOND TIME.
IN MY OPINION, THE HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT MATTER TO THOSE WHO SERVE IT.
I DO HAVE AN ARTICLE THAT YOU CAN LOOK, LOOK UP.
IT'S THE HAY FREE PRESS JULY 10TH, 2019.
AND THEY DID HAVE, UM, THEIR DOWNTOWN KYLE ASSESSMENT REPORT.
UM, NEXT I HAVE REBECCA CHAPA.
GOOD EVENING COUNSEL AND MAYOR.
I LIVE ON 700 WEST CENTER STREET.
AND, UM, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE DISCUSSION WITH THE VIBE THAT HAPPENED LAST THURSDAY.
UM, I'M NEITHER FOR IT OR AGAINST IT.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WERE NOT BROUGHT OUT, HONESTLY.
AND ONE OF THOSE WAS BROUGHT UP THIS EVENING REGARDING THE WHOLE HISTORICAL PACIFIC UNION AND THE CONNECTION OF THE EAST AND WEST.
I THINK WITH THAT STILL BEING UNDER DISCUSSIONS AND STUFF WITH THE CITY AND THOSE ENTITIES THAT THE, THE BOND PART OF THE CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM FROM MAINE TO VATOS, UH, VETERANS DRIVE SHOULD BE SCRATCHED.
THERE'S NO REASON TO RUIN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN RUINED REGARDING ALL THE PROPERTY PURCHASES AND KNOCK DOWN THOSE BUILDINGS.
YES, SOME OF THEM PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO BE REVISED IN SOME ASPECT, BUT NOW LOOK AT US.
WE, THERE'S NOTHING DOWN HERE FOR PEOPLE TO PRIDE THEMSELVES.
NOW I, AGAIN, I'M NOT AGAINST THE VIBE.
I AM AGAINST THE FACT THAT WE DO NOT NEED 10 TO 12 FEET.
THAT IS NOT A BIKE WITH WHAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED TO HAVE IS NOT FOR UTILITY VEHICLES.
IT IS FOR PEOPLE TO WALK ON, TO BIKE ON THOSE THAT HAVE OR DISABLED TO UTILIZE.
IT IS NOT FOR THESE GOLF CARTS THAT PEOPLE CLAIM TO WANT.
THAT'S WHAT WAS GLORIFIED FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE THE CONNECTIONS FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO SHARE.
I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO AND CARE ABOUT WITH THE PEOPLE AND THANK YOU.
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OKAY, UP NEXT I HAVE DIANE GONZALEZ.UH, MAYOR, COUNCIL, UM, CITIZENS AND, UM, AND, UH, STAFF.
I WORK WITH PEC PERNELL ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE.
I'M AN EXTERNAL RELATIONS REP WITH PEC.
I'M ALSO YOUR COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE.
SO, UH, WORK WITH YOUR COMMUNITY.
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, UH, A VERY QUICK UPDATE AND, UH, SOME INFORMATION.
ONE, WE ARE VERY PLEASED THAT WE HAVE A NEW CEO AT PEC AND HIS NAME IS MR. KRISTIN POWELL.
AND, UH, VERY SOON WE WILL BE, UM, UH, REACHING OUT SO THAT, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET MR. POWELL AND, UM, AND OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT YOU'LL BE HEARING BACK FROM ME SOON ABOUT THAT.
ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THAT WE HAVE, UH, SEVERAL THINGS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I THINK WILL BE AN INTEREST TO THE COUNCIL AND TO, UH, YOUR CITIZENS.
SO, UM, WE HAVE A NEW EDUCATIONAL SPOTLIGHT GRANT THAT IS CURRENTLY OPEN AND IT'S, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANTS THAT ARE AWARDED TO TEACHERS.
AND THEY ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY TO FUND DYNAMIC PROGRAMS FOR THEIR CLASSROOMS. THAT, UH, GRANT PROGRAM IS GOING TO CLOSE SEPTEMBER 7TH, SO THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH TIME, BUT WE HAVE A, A VERY EASY WEBSITE TO FIND.
MY P C.COM IS OUR WEBSITE AND ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE.
I ALSO WANNA SHARE THAT WE ALSO HAVE CURRENTLY OPEN A PROGRAM THAT WE CALL PC'S POWER PLAYER AWARD.
AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE RECOGNITIONS FOR, UH, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT CAN BE NOMINATED, THAT EXHIBIT LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION, UM, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND CARE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UH, THAT IS GOING TO CLOSE SEPTEMBER 17TH.
SO THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE OUR YOUTH.
AND THEN FINALLY, I WANNA MENTION THAT, UM, PEC ALSO HAS ANNUALLY WE OPEN OUR COMMUNITY GRANTS.
THAT'S FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WANT TO APPLY FOR GRANTS UP TO $5,000 FOR NONPROFITS.
UM, IT IS, UH, THE PROJECTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THESE GRANT AWARDS ARE, UH, PROJECTS IN TECHNOLOGY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THAT IS GOING TO OPEN ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.
SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN, UM, LAST I WILL MENTION THAT OUR GRANTS IN OUR PROGRAMS AND MANY EDUCATIONAL, UM, RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AT PEC ARE FUNDED BY OUR PEC, UH, POWER, POWER OF CHANGE PROGRAM.
SO IF YOU'RE A PEC MEMBER, WHICH EVERYONE HERE IN COLLEGE IS, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ROUND UP YOUR ELECTRIC BILL.
AND IT IS THOSE FUNDS COLLECTIVELY THAT FUND THE COMMUNITY GRANTS AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AT PEC.
I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT, UM, YOUR CITY, CITY OF KYLE IS ONE OF OUR 45 FRANCHISE CITIES.
AND, UH, PEC SERVES ALL OR PART OF 24 COUNTIES.
MY NAME IS LILA KNIGHT, AND FIRST OFF, I, I WON'T NEED 20 MINUTES
UM, I DO WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU, UH, FOR MAKING THE REALLY HARD DECISIONS ON OUR BUDGET.
I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST LIKE, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB AND I TEND TO BE A LITTLE CRITICAL.
SO, UM, SECONDLY, I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR LIKE, VALUING OUR HISTORY AND KYLE, UM, YOU'VE LIKE REALLY STEPPED UP AND ARE, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND I WANNA LIKE LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE STARTING A NEW GROUP.
IT'S CALLED THE KYLE AREA HISTORY GROUP, VERY INFORMAL, NO MEMBERSHIP FEES, NO OFFICERS, NO BYLAWS, I MEAN NO NONPROFIT.
IT'S JUST LIKE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO GET TOGETHER EVERY MONTH AND TALK ABOUT OUR HISTORY.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN ALL LEARN AND EVERYONE'S WELCOME EVERYONE, IF YOU LIKE MOVED HERE YESTERDAY, YOU'RE WELCOME.
IF YOU'RE FROM AUSTIN, YOU'RE WELCOME.
UH, AND OUR FIRST MEETING IS GONNA BE HELD SEPTEMBER 9TH AT SIX 30 AT THE DEPOT.
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AND I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS MANY AS POSSIBLE CAN MAKE IT.UM, AND WE WANTED TO, LIKE, WE NAMED IT THE KYLE AREA HISTORY GROUP, SORT OF IN HONOR OF LIKE ANN MILLER STROM, WHO WROTE THE BOOK, THE HISTORY BOOK ON KYLE.
OH, I'M LIKE ON MY TIPTOES
UM, ANYWAY, UM, WE'RE DOING THIS IN HONOR OF HEART BECAUSE SHE WAS ONE OF THE, THE BIG PEOPLE IN WHAT WAS ONCE THE KYLE AREA HERITAGE ASSOCIATION.
SO WE WANNA LIKE KIND OF NAME IT CLOSE TO THEM, BUT NOT TAKE THE NAME.
ANYWAY, I HOPE YOU'LL LIKE SHOW UP AND KEEP DOING A GOOD JOB.
ALL RIGHT, UP NEXT I HAVE BETTY CONLEY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND STAFF.
I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE KRUG BUILDING AND HOW CRUCIAL IT IS TO PRESERVE AND MAINTAIN CHARACTER AND HERITAGE OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE K KRUG BUILDING IS LOCATED AT 1 0 1 SOUTH LESTON AND GREATLY ENHANCES COMMUNITY IDENTITY.
FOSTERS PRIDE AMONG THE RESIDENTS OF CAL.
IT'S BUILT IN 1912 AND IT WAS AN OPERA HOUSE AT ONE TIME.
THROUGHOUT THE YEARS THERE WERE MANY CHANGES, BUT THE IN FOR THE USE OF THE BUILDING.
BUT THE BALLROOM NEVER CHANGED.
IN 2004, HURST ADVOCATED IN RESTORING THE BUILDING AND HAVING IT DEDICATED TO SENIORS.
IN 2006, IT IS LOCATED RIGHT IN FRONT OF MARY COW HARTSON PARK.
IT HAS BECOME A CHERISH SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S BEEN USED TO BRING BACK MUSIC.
IT WAS USED FOR RENTALS, BABY SHOWERS, LUNCHES, DINNER PARTIES, AND MUCH MORE.
THE CREW BUILDING BRINGS REVENUE FROM TO THE CITY FROM THE RENTALS BY ENSURING THE CRUDE BUILDING IS MAINTAINED AND CHERISHED, WE NOT ONLY CELEBRATE OUR PAST, BUT ALSO CREATE A SENSE OF IDENTITY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO USE THE GRAND BALLROOM FOR OFFICE SPACES.
LET'S BRING MUSIC AND THE ARTS BACK TO THE CRUDE BUILDING FOR ALL THE CITIZENS TO BE PROUD OF AND TO KEEP HISTORY ALIVE.
I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE A STATE A COUPLE STATEMENTS.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY STATEMENTS OF FACT.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW FROM WHEN WALT AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER, THE CITY HAS AN ILA, WHICH IS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT REGARDING THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY CONTACT FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
SO IF YOU CAN'T HAVE COMMUNICATION, YOU CAN'T SIT HERE AND POINT A FINGER AT THIS COUNCIL SAYING, YOU KILLED THE SHELTER.
NOBODY'S TALKING ON THE OTHER END.
I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM TOO, BECAUSE WE ARE AND HAVE A DEFICIT.
BRIAN LANGLEY, IF YOU CAME AND LISTENED TO SOME OF THE BUDGET MEETINGS, HIRED A TWO FOR ONE EVERY TIME HE WAS HIRING FOR POSITIONS IN THE CITY.
THE SECOND PERSON DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A A PLACE, BUT HE MADE ONE.
SO THERE WAS EXTRA MONEY, REPEATED MONEY GOING OUT THE DOOR THAT DIDN'T NEED TO GO OUT THE DOOR.
NOT EVERYBODY'S PERFECT IN WHAT THEY DO, BUT THIS COUNCIL HAS THE HARDEST JOB EVER, EVER FROM THE LAST NINE YEARS THAT'S BEEN PUT ON THEM IN EIGHT MONTHS.
AND YOU'RE DOING A HELL OF A JOB.
AND MR. MOHE, EVERY EXPLANATION YOU HAVE HAD WAS TRUE FACT AND HONESTY.
AND I THINK THAT TOGETHER, THIS BUDGET WILL GET IN SHAPE, VIBE WILL BE BUILT.
WE DON'T KNOW EVERYWHERE IT WILL BE BUILT.
I'M NOT AGAINST THE VIBE, I'M AGAINST IT IN THE CITY, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE JUST NEED TO BE PATIENT.
AND ALSO, I KNOW THERE'S RESPECT THAT GOES BOTH WAYS.
AND I HAVE BEEN ONE WITH MS. ADA AND SHE MADE A STATEMENT OF FACT AND APOLOGIZED TO ME A WHILE AGO.
SO I DO BELIEVE IT GOES BOTH WAYS.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA RESPECT THE PEOPLE OUT HERE OR THERE'S PEOPLE, YOU ALL EACH OTHER UP THERE, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET ANYWHERE.
I THINK YOU'RE DOING A HELL OF A JOB THOUGH.
AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAYOR PROTE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE FORMS. UM, WHAT ANYBODY LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK BEFORE I CLOSE? CITIZEN'S COMMENTS? I SEE NONE.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE AGENDA ORDER.
MAYOR PRO, I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE ON WITH AGENDA ORDER, MAY I HAVE JUST A MOMENT FOR A BRIEF STATEMENT OF FACT? YES, YOU CAN HAVE A STATEMENT OF FACT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION OF PUBLIC RECORD.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, MS. CONNELLEY, THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THAT THE ANIMAL SHELTER HAS NOT BEEN KILLED.
IT IS CURRENTLY STILL SITTING ON OUR, UH, FIVE YEAR CIP WITH A $10 MILLION, UH, CO BOND.
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THAT HAS NOT BEEN KILLED.AND THE OTHER STATEMENT OF FACT IS THAT LANGLEY IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN, UM, FOR COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTION AND IS ON OUR 26 27 PROPOSED BUDGET.
UM, SO THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING RECONSTRUCTED, OKAY? AND NOT ZEROED OUT.
MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA DO AGENDA
[IV) Agenda Order]
ORDER.I THINK WE ASKED SOMEBODY ASKED FOR 27 TO BE MOVED UP.
SO WE WILL PUT THAT RIGHT UNDERNEATH CONSENT IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE FOR 25 AS WELL.
OKAY, SO WE WILL MOVE UP 25 AND 27, RIGHT UNDERNEATH CONSENT.
ALL RIGHT, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO PULL
[V) Consent Agenda]
ANYTHING FROM CONSENT? WELL, THERE ARE TWO THINGS WE HAVE TO DO ON CONSENT, UH, FOR NUMBER SIX.SO FOR NUMBER SIX, MAYOR, THE STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT NUMBER SIX BE PULLED.
UM, ONE OF THE PEOPLE LISTED ON HERE FOR REAPPOINTMENT HAS DECIDED NOT TO BE REAPPOINTED.
SO WE'D LIKE TO VOTE TO APPOINT THE OTHER TWO, BUT NOT THAT ONE ON NUMBER SIXTH.
SO WHEN WE DO, BUT AFTER YOU DO CONSENT, WE CAN PULL THAT UP.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA GONNA PULL SIX, AND THEN NUMBER EIGHT IS GONNA COME BACK ON NINE 15, CORRECT? 26, CORRECT.
NUMBER EIGHT, STAFF HAS REQUESTED TO PULL OFF THIS AGENDA AND BRING BACK ON NINE 15.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO PULL ANYTHING ELSE? 13.
TRYING TO GET ALL THE NUMBERS RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, SOMEBODY FACT, CHECK ME.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEMS THREE THROUGH 5, 7 9 THROUGH 12 AND 14 THROUGH 21.
I GOT A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE GONNA PULL AGENDA ITEM SIX.
[VI) Items Pulled from Consent Agenda]
AND THAT IS CONSIDERED APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO REAPPOINT JACKSON BENNETT TO SEAT TWO, RACHEL MOOSE TO SEAT FOUR.SO, MAYOR, WE'RE REQUESTING THAT THE COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PROPOSED TO REMOVE ANDREA MCCRAY FROM SEAT SIX.
SO WHEN WE MAKE THAT MOTION, WE JUST SAY TO REMOVE IT, UH, A MOTION AMENDING THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION TO REMOVE THE APPOINTMENT OF ANDREA MCCRAY TO SEAT SIX AND APPOINT THE OTHER TWO.
MAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, A MOTION TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION TO REAPPOINT JACKSON BENNETT C TWO.
UH, RACHEL MOVES TO SEAT FOUR.
TO REMOVE, TO REMOVE ANDREW MCCRAE, UH, TO SEAT SIX OF THE ARTS AND CULTURAL BOARD, UH, EACH FOR TWO YEAR TERMS EXPIRING SEPTEMBER, 2028.
WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCKENNEY AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
ALL OPPOSED? OKAY, MOTION PASSES.
NOW WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM 13 THAT'S GONNA GO TO CONS OR MAYOR PORT TOBI.
UM, LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MR. MIKE MURPHY COME UP AND DO THE PRESENTATION ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
MIKE MURPHY, DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES.
AND I'VE GOT TIM SANFORD, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF WATER UTILITIES WITH ME.
SO LET ME JUST, UM, FIRST OF ALL, RECOGNIZE A FEW PEOPLE BEFORE WE DO.
I THINK I'D RATHER JUST TALK TO YOU THAN MAKE THE PRESENTATION AND KIND OF LET YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SITUATION WAS IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I WANNA RECOGNIZE MIKE VAN WINKLE.
UH, MANY OF YOU HAVE MET MICHAEL.
HE'S ONE OF OUR WATER UTILITY MANAGERS, AND MICHAEL WAS THE EMPLOYEE WHO ACTUALLY DISCOVERED THIS ERROR.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK, THANK YOU TO MICHAEL.
UH, ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE, UM, THE, THE DESIGN ENGINEERING FIRM, HDR ENGINEERING.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB ON THIS PROJECT.
AND THEN ALSO I WANT TO THANK THE CONTRACTOR THEMSELVES, TMT, UM, SOLUTIONS.
UM, THE SCADA SYSTEM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN, UM, THE, UM, MATURIZATION OF THE SCADA SYSTEM OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS.
IT IS AN INCREDIBLE, HIGHLY TECHNICAL UNDERTAKING THAT THE, UM, ENGINEERS AND THE CONTRACTOR HAVE DONE WHAT I THINK IS AN INCREDIBLE JOB.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, ORIGINATED THIS IS, UH, THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE AND SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WAS AROUND 18 MONTHS.
AND IT WAS AT MY DISCRETION THAT, UH, I, I REJECTED THAT AND I SAID, WE NEED IT DONE IN 12 MONTHS TO MAKE, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, OR
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TO COMPLETE THE, THE SCADA PROJECT THIS YEAR BEFORE THE HARSH HOPE DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, HARSH WINTER SETS IN.SO WE'D HAVE THE SCADA SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING THE ORIGINAL SCADA SYSTEM BACKGROUND.
IS THAT BETTER? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX THAT.
SO ANYWAY, WE CAN TURN UP THE MICROPHONE.
IT MIGHT BE EASIER JUST TO DO THE POWERPOINT.
SO WE CAN FOLLOW ALONG MY MOUTH.
UM, MAYBE IF I MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT THAT WAY.
SO, UM, THE ORIGINAL SCADA SYSTEM WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND THE END OF THE 19 HUNDREDS, LIKE, LIKE 1999, 2001.
THAT'S HOW OLD THE SCADA SYSTEM WAS.
AND IF YOU CAN IMAGINE HAVING A SC A CELL PHONE OF THAT AGE, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
AND, UH, JUST WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE SCADA SYSTEM HAD BEEN FAILING MORE THAN IT'S BEEN MORE ACCURATELY.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCADA SYSTEM, WHICH IS SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION, IF YOU THINK OF OUR PIPELINES AS THE BLOODSTREAM OF YOUR BODY AND OUR PUMP STATIONS, UM, AS THE HEART, THE SCADA SYSTEM IS THE BRAIN OF OUR SYSTEM.
THIS IS WHAT CONTROLS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
SO IT'S HIGHLY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS RIGHT.
AND SO WHAT WE DID, AND THIS, AND THIS ALL, UM, WILL ANSWER, UH, COUNCILMAN TOBIAS'S QUESTION.
UM, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT OUT LOOKING AT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
INSTEAD OF DOING A TRADITIONAL REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR REQUEST FOR BIDS, WE DID WHAT WAS CALLED A COMPETITIVE SEALED PROPOSAL.
AND WHAT THIS DID IS IT ENSURES THAT WE GOT THE BEST, THE, THE MOST QUALIFIED, UM, CONTRACTOR TO DO THE PROJECT.
WE WEREN'T STRICTLY RELYING ON LOW BID.
THIS PROJECT IS WAY TOO, TOO TECHNICAL AND TOO IMPORTANT TO DO THAT.
AND SO OUR ENGINEER, HDR WORKING WITH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT AND OUR INTERNAL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT CAME UP WITH, UM, A SPECIALIZED SET OF DOCUMENTS AND A SPECIALIZED BID FORM TO DO THIS PROJECT.
AND WHAT THAT DID IS IT GAVE A PERCENTAGE TO THE COST OF THE PROJECT, BUT IT ALSO GAVE A PERCENTAGE, UM, TO THE TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES OF THE FIRMS THAT APPLIED AND ALSO, UM, THE RESOURCE CAPABILITY OF THAT FIRM THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MEET, MEET OUR 12 MONTH TIMEFRAME THAT WE EXPEDITED.
OKAY? SO, UM, TMT WAS SELECTED AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, AND THEY SUBMITTED A LOW BID OF WHAT WASN'T THE LOW BID, BUT THEY SUBMITTED THEIR BID, WHICH WAS AROUND TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
OKAY? SO KEEP THAT NUMBER IN MIND.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT ON THIS PROJECT.
SO AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SELECTED A REVIEW TEAM, UH, THE RE THE REVIEW TEAM CONSISTED OF, UM, INDIVIDUALS FROM WATER UTILITIES, FROM THE IT DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY FROM ENGINEERING, UM, TO REVIEW THE, THE, THE PROPOSAL SENT IN BY THE CONTRACTORS.
NOW, AS PART OF THIS PROPOSAL, THE NUMBERS WERE NOT GIVEN TO THE REVIEW TEAM.
ONLY THING GIVEN TO THE REVIEW TEAM WAS THE AMOUNT OF THE BID AND THE, IT WAS UP TO THE REVIEW TEAM TO DETERMINE THE TECHNICAL CAPABILITY OR THE RESOURCE CAPABILITY OF THE FIRMS THAT, THAT SUBMITTED THEIR PROPOSALS TO THIS PROJECT.
AND SO IN THAT PROCESS, UM, AND KEEP IN MIND WE'RE USING A VERY NEW SET OF, UH, SPECIALIZED DOCUMENTS IN BID FORMS. THE LOW BID, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SPLIT EVENLY BETWEEN THE WATER, UH, CIP PROCESS AND THE WASTEWATER CIP PROGRAM, NOT PROCESS, BUT PROGRAM WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SPLIT EVENLY.
THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATE, AND THIS WAS AT THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME CHANNELS OR SOME WIRES THAT GOT CROSSED.
AND THE PROCURE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT IN LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS THAT THEY WERE GONNA PROVIDE TO THE REVIEW TEAM, INSTEAD OF SPLITTING 'EM IN HALF AND PUTTING HALF OF THAT FUND THE MONEY TOWARDS ONE AND THE OTHER, THEY, THEY TOOK THAT AMOUNT AND PUT IT EQUALLY BETWEEN THE TWO DIVISIONS.
AND THEREBY IT CREATED, UM, A, A, A HIGHER BID THAN, OR THAN WHAT WHAT WAS WAS SUBMITTED ABOUT.
OKAY? AND SO THAT'S WHERE THIS CAME IN.
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CAME IN, OR WE SAW THE BID OF ROUGHLY $5 MILLION, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD, I REMEMBER THE DAY THAT IT HAPPENED, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD IS, WHY IS IT SO HIGH? AND THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WAS BECAUSE WE EXPEDITED THE PROJECT BY SIX MONTHS.AND SO WE THOUGHT, OKAY, THAT'S, THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
THAT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SPEEDING IT UP TO DO THAT.
IT'S GOTTA COST TO IT TO ORDER MATERIALS AND GET 'EM DELIVERED AHEAD OF TIME AND, UH, AHEAD OF SCHEDULE THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SCOPED.
AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS WORTH IT.
SO, UM, I APPROACHED LEADERSHIP AND, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE ADDITIONAL COSTS AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH THE MONEY TO EXPEDITE OR TO, TO, UH, DO AN AMENDMENT TO PAY THE ADDITIONAL COST OF ROUGHLY $2 MILLION.
IT'S, IT'S SET IN STONE, IT'S WORKING, IT, IT JUST MAKES ITS WAY, IT NEVER CHANGED.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS, UM, AMENDED FOR ALL OF THE, UM, ALL OF THE CONTRACTORS WHO SUBMITTED A BID.
SO THERE WAS NO, UM, UM, I GUESS, UM, VISION FROM OUR SIDE THAT THOUGHT, MAN, THAT THAT'S WAY OFF.
WHY IS THAT WAY OFF? THEY WERE ALL IN THAT $5 MILLION PRICE RANGE, OKAY? SO WE FELT LIKE WE SELECTED THE BEST POSSIBLE, UM, CONTRACTOR OUT OF THE GROUP THAT SUBMITTED, UH, PROPOSALS.
AND SO WE JUST MOVED THE PROJECT FORWARD, WE CAME TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO PAY $5 MILLION TO TMT TO BUILD THE PROJECT.
AND SO WE'RE HAPPY, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
AND NOW MOVE 12 MONTHS INTO THE FUTURE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE BACKGROUND.
I HOPE YOU HOPE THAT MADE SENSE, WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.
UM, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I REMEMBER WHEN MICHAEL CAME TO ME, IT WAS, UM, AROUND JULY THE FOURTH, AND HE GOES, MURPHY, I FOUND $2 MILLION IN THIS PROJECT.
AND SO HE STARTED DESCRIBING WHAT HE WAS DOING.
UM, AND AT THE END OF A PROJECT, ESPECIALLY A MAJOR PROJECT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS, WE LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND HE WAS LOOKING AT THE CON CONTRACT AND SCOPE TO MAKE SURE AS WE GET TO THE CLOSURE OF THIS PROJECT, WE UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING THAT HAD HAPPENED AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON.
AND HE FOUND A DISCREPANCY IN THE NUMBERS TO HIS CREDIT.
AND IT WAS DEEP INTO THE, INTO THE BID DOCUMENT OF THE, UM, OF THE, THE PROPOSED, UM, BID BY THE, BY THE CONTRACTOR WHO WORE, WHO WON IT.
AND, UM, THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY STILL LEFT OVER.
AND SO HE STARTED DIGGING A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE MISSING HERE? WHERE IS THE NUMBER? SO HE THEN GOT WITH OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THEY STARTED LOOKING AT THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND ALSO WITH OUR, UM, CIP MANAGER, UH, IN ENGINEERING.
AND SO THEY STARTED LOOKING AT ALL THESE, AND THEY, THEY STARTED DIGGING DEEPER INTO THESE NUMBERS.
AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT ANYBODY ON OUR TEAM HAD SEEN THE FULL BID DOCUMENT FOR THE, FOR THE CONTRACTOR THAT SUBMITTED IT.
ALL WE SAW WAS THE $5 MILLION NUMBER.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING THIS PROJECT TO.
SO AS WE DUG DEEPER INTO THE PROCESS, OR THEY DUG DEEPER INTO IT, THEY DISCOVERED WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
AND IT, LIKE I SAID, IT STARTED AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT AND NO CHANGES MADE ITS WAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL.
AND SO IN A PROCESS WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY THAT WE DISCOVERED IT, BUT THE GUYS THAT WORKED FOR ME CAN TELL YOU THIS, IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF FRUSTRATING FOR ME.
HOW DID IT GET THIS FAR BEFORE WE ACTUALLY FOUND IT? THAT WAS A BIG, THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM.
AND SO IN USING THIS NEW OR NEW TO US, UH, BIDDING PROCESS, UM, CALLED COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSALS, UM, IT'S STILL GOOD.
IT'S JUST THAT THE NUMBER ENTERED INITIALLY WAS NOT RIGHT.
AND IT TOOK US, AND IT, SO WE'RE ALL THINKING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE $5 BILLION BILL BID IS GOOD ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BUT, UM, THERE'S ONE SIDE OF ME THAT GOES, WE SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THIS.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT SOONER.
SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT IT.
WHO COULD HAVE CAUGHT IT? YOU KNOW? SO WE'RE NOW GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW WITH, WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WITH THE, WITH THE FINANCE TEAM AND WITH PROCUREMENT.
UM, AND HOLLY, THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB HELPING US, UH, WORK THIS OUT.
SO, UM, TONIGHT WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO DO IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO REDUCE THE CONTRACT AMOUNT AWARDED TO TMT, UM, FOR, UH, THE REMOTE MONITORING PRO, A REMOTE MONITORING PROJECT, UH, REDUCTION OF TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT VALUE OF 2.685.
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CONTINGENCY FOR THE PROJECT.AND THIS, THE ONE THING THAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO KEEP THE, UM, ENGINEER ON, ON BOARD, UH, FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR WITH A POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL YEAR AS WE DEVELOP AND GET USED TO THIS NEW SYSTEM AND, AND FIGURE IT OUT AND WORK IT OUT.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE MEANTIME? SO WE STILL LIKE THE PROGRAM.
WE STILL LIKE, UM, THE, UM, THE CSP PROCESS, WE THINK IT'S GOOD.
IT DOESN'T TIE OURSELVES TO THE LOW BID, WHICH IS NOT ALWAYS BAD, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOOD.
AND SO IF BY DOING THIS, AND BY, BY PUTTING IT IN THE HANDS OF, OF CAPABLE MEN AND WOMEN, WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL CONTINUE TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE, UH, CONTRACTOR FOR THE PROJECT, FOR, FOR THE PROJECT.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE US USING THIS AGAIN, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE WORKING WITH EVERYBODY THAT I JUST MENTIONED TO MANAGE THIS PROJECT AND MAKE SURE 100% SURE AS THESE NUMBERS COME IN, THAT WE HAVE THAT, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE REVIEWING HAVE FULL SIGHT OF THE, UM, THE BID DOCUMENT THAT THE CONTRACTOR SEND IN INSTEAD OF JUST THE LUMP SUM BASED ON THE SCRUBBING BY PROCUREMENT.
AND SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD, THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, OKAY, SO WE GOT $2 MILLION, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND, UM, I JUST, I, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ABLE TO WORK THAT OUT.
IT COULD HAVE GONE EVEN FURTHER SOUTH, BUT I THINK THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE GOT IN PLACE, TYPICALLY ON ANY MAJOR PROJECT IS THAT, UH, AS A PROJECT CLOSES OUT, WE START DOING THIS, UM, LOOKING AT IT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISS SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE OBVIOUSLY DID, UH, WE CORRECTED IT.
AND THIS, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU NOT, UH, TONIGHT IS THAT CORRECTION.
AND, UM, SO WE RECOMMEND, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND, UM, UH, GRANTING THIS RESOLUTION.
ALRIGHT, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MR. MURPHY, UH, AND MR. STANFORD, I, UM, I'M NOT HERE TO POINT FINGERS, UH, UH, BUT WHAT HAPPENS NOW? AND, UH, WHAT'S, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO DO? OKAY, SO, UH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
SO THE CONTRACTOR IS IN 100% AGREEMENT WITH US ON THIS.
HE IS ALREADY SIGNED A, UM, AN AMENDMENT, LET'S SEE, WHAT IS IT CALLED? I'M SORRY, I GOT IT HERE SOMEWHERE.
THE CONTRACTOR HAS ALREADY SIGNED AMENDMENT TO THE SERVICE AGREEMENT BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE CAME UP WITH.
THIS TAKES US ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING, WHICH WE WILL, UH, THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS THE BID OF THE CONTRACTOR PLUS A 20% CONTINGENCY.
AND WE STILL FALL WITHIN THAT PRICE RANGE.
AND SO WHEN YOU WERE GOING ON ABOUT, UH, REVIEWING THIS CONTRACT, WHO, WHO WAS, WHO WAS ON THE REVIEW TEAM? I'M NOT SURE I CAN GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
I CAN TELL YOU THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE REPRESENTATIVE.
SO WE DEFINITELY HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM WATER UTILITIES.
WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR IT DEPARTMENT.
WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
UM, AM I LEAVING ANYBODY OUT THERE TOO? SO, PROCUREMENT, PROCUREMENT, PROCUREMENT.
OH, WELL, PROCUREMENT OVERSAW THE REVIEW PROCESS.
THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE DOING THE ACTUAL REVIEW OF ALL OF THE CONTRACTS OR, UH, SUBMITTALS THAT WERE, WERE TURNED IN.
SO WHOSE DESK DID THIS GO ACROSS? DO WE KNOW WHO'S, WHO REVIEWED ALL OF THESE BEFORE? BECAUSE LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY, IT SAYS HERE ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025, THIS CONTRACT AWARD AMOUNT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? WHICH WAS, I I WAS ON IT.
AND IT WAS PRESENTED INCORRECTLY DUE TO ADMINISTRATIVE ERROR.
SPECIFICALLY THE BID TABULATION INCORRECTLY INTERPRETED, UH, YES.
THE ERROR HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THE CONTRACTOR HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE DISCREPANCY.
SO THAT GOES TO SHOW, IT'S LIKE THE HIGHER BIDDEN WENT CLOSE TO 5 MILLION, CORRECT? THAT WAS, YES.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE FULL RANGE OF THE CONTRACTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BECAUSE THE SAME MISTAKE WAS MADE ON EVERY, UM, PROPOSAL THAT WAS TURNED IN.
SO THAT WAS DONE IN PROCUREMENT.
THEY, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAD EYES ON THIS.
AND IT, AND IT'S INTENTIONAL IN THIS TYPE OF A, A BID PROCESS AND THE, UH, WHERE WE TAKE OUT, UM, A, A DISCRETION ON THE BID NUMBER.
EVERYBODY, YOU JUST SEE THEIR BID NUMBER, YOU DON'T SEE HOW THEY BROKE IT OUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT, OR THE WAY THE DEBT IS, IS IT PLAYED
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FAVORITISM OR IT COULD SHOW FAVORITISM TO ONE CONTRACTOR OVER ANOTHER.SO THE ONLY THING THAT THE REVIEW TEAM HAD EYES ON WAS JUST THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE BID.
I GUESS THAT'S WHO I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS IS WHO FROM THE CITY STAFF WAS RESPONSIBLE TO REVIEW ALL OF THIS? WHOSE DESK DID THIS GO ACROSS? SO THE MAIN THING IS IT GOES ACROSS THE PROCUREMENT DESK AND WHO, WHO'S ON THAT DESK? UM, THEY'RE NO LONGER HERE.
WHO ARE THEY PLEASE? BECAUSE I, I'M, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO GET ACROSS TO, I WANNA MAKE SURE WHO WERE THE PEOPLE THAT IT RAN ACROSS TO WHERE WE RAN ACROSS THIS HUGE PROBLEM.
I WILL ANSWER IT BECAUSE MR. MURPHY, FOR WHATEVER REASON IS NOT DISCLOSING IT IS CAN BE FOR LEGAL REASONS.
SO THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY WAS THAT OF THE FORMER CITY MANAGER, OH ONE, THE PROCUREMENT DESK THAT HE KEEPS REFERRING TO WAS OUR SUPER GENIUS, DEL DE MANHA OR WHATEVER THE LAST NAME WAS THAT IS NO LONGER WITH THE CITY.
JOSHUA CROLEY WAS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR PART OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT OVERSAW IS NO LONGER WITH THE CITY.
AND ROSIE TRUELOVE WHO SAW, OVERSAW THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DEPARTMENT WHEN THIS PROJECT ALL STARTED, WHICH IS NO LONGER WITH THE CITY.
SO WHEN PEOPLE COME UP HERE AND SAY THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT QUIT, THEY DIDN'T QUIT.
THESE ARE THE TYPES OF EXAMPLES THAT YOU ARE SEEING NOW.
BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT.
HOW MANY MORE OF THESE DO YOU THINK WE HAVE OUT THERE? AND THIS, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S INFURIATING.
'CAUSE WE HAD SOMEBODY COME UP HERE JUST A WHILE AGO AND JUST INFURIATE JUST BASICALLY STATING THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT WE LET GO OR WE FIRED OR WHOEVER, AND NOW WE RUN ACROSS THESE.
THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM, LIKE WHAT I SAID IN MY TOWN HALL.
I NEED THE TRUTH BEHIND ALL OF THESE ISSUES AND PEOPLE DESERVE THE ANSWERS.
AND AGAIN, IT, IT SHOWS HERE HOW IT WAS PRESENTED IN INCORRECTLY.
AND THAT'S LIKE WHAT I HAD STRESSED BEFORE ABOUT, I NEED TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION FROM CITY STAFF, FROM BRIAN LANGLEY AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WAS THERE THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THIS TO MAKE THIS ACCURATE DECISIONS.
THIS ITEM MAYOR PORT TIME, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL AT THAT PRICE LEVEL.
THE WATER UTILITY DEPARTMENT WAS INVOLVED, THE DESIGN ENGINEER WAS INVOLVED, THE CIP ENGINEERING TEAM WAS INVOLVED, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS INVOLVED, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WAS INVOLVED.
AND OF COURSE THE PROCUREMENT TEAM, THEY WERE ALL, IT WENT THROUGH ALL OF THESE DESKS AND FINALLY IT WAS RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS CONTRACT.
SO IN IN A, IN A, IN A NUTSHELL, MS. MOHE, IS THIS AN ILLEGAL CONTRACT? I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
IS THIS AN ILLEGAL CONTRACT THAT WE VOTED ON ON AUGUST 19TH, 2025? I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MISTAKE THAT WE ARE CORRECTING.
AND THE MISTAKE IS THAT THE BID TAB, THAT THE BID WAS READ WRONG AND IT WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE PROCUREMENT PEOPLE THAT SUPPOSEDLY ARE NO LONGER HERE WITH THE CITY THAT CAN COME UP AND ANSWER FOR THIS.
THEY'RE NO LONGER WITH THE CITY OF KA.
AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE RAISING HELL ABOUT US, ABOUT THESE EXCELLENT PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE, AND ESPECIALLY OUR CITY MANAGER, LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY, HE QUIT WHETHER WE WERE IN A BUDGET DEFICIT OR CAME ACROSS SAYING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE 14 MILLION IN THE HOLE.
WHERE IS HE NOW TO BE ABLE TO HELP ANSWER THIS QUESTION? HE QUIT ON THIS.
IS THAT WHY WE'RE DOING AUDITS? COUNCIL MEMBER ADA? SO I'M GONNA TAKE ANOTHER SHARP TURN.
IT IS AN I WILL NOT ALLOW FOR THE CHASTISING OF OUR STAFF TO HAPPEN AND FOR BLAMED OR FINGERS TO BE POINTED AS IF MISTAKES DON'T HAPPEN.
OUR STAFF HAS A TREMENDOUS WEIGHT OF WORK UPON THEM.
AND WE HAVE CUT THEIR SERVICES, WE HAVE CUT THEIR DEPARTMENTS,
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WE HAVE CUT THEIR BUDGETS, AND WE EXPECT THEM TO BE CONTINUOUSLY RUNNING SMOOTHLY, SEAMLESSLY.AND YES, IT WAS A $2.5 MILLION MISTAKE, BUT MISTAKES DO HAPPEN.
AND WE ALSO RECEIVED THE INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO CORRECT THIS, WHICH I APPRECIATE BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE MECHANISMS THAT ARE IN PLACE TO HELP ADDRESS THIS.
AND AT TIMES MISTAKES NEED TO OCCUR.
IF MISTAKES DO NOT HAPPEN, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHERE TO LOOK AND YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR SYSTEMS. IT'S A PART OF REGULAR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S WHY YOU BUILD IN FEEDBACK LOOPS, WHICH IT SEEMS THAT OUR STAFF HAS ALREADY DONE.
IF IT IS THEIR CONSTANT PRACTICE TO LOOK AT PROJECTS AS THEY CLOSED TO REVIEW WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN IMPROVED, MAYBE THINGS THAT WENT WELL, SOME THINGS THAT DIDN'T, THAT MEANS THAT THIS IS ALREADY IN PLACE AND THAT IS A GOOD PROJECT MANAGEMENT PR, UH, PRACTICE.
AND SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE WHAT I WILL NOT ALLOW FOR IS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN ON THIS DAIS WITHOUT REBUTTAL, WITH MAKING IT SEEM THAT WE CAN JUST BLAME OUR STAFF AND YELL AND GET MAD WHEN THEY HAVE DONE SO MUCH FOR US.
AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE LISTED ARE, HAVE BEEN, THEY WERE GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS.
THEY MADE GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY OF KYLE.
AND I FIND IT EXTREMELY UNPROFESSIONAL AND EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL.
THE WAY IN WHICH THEY'RE BEING SPOKEN ABOUT TONIGHT.
I GOT A POINT OF ORDER, PLEASE.
OH, WELL I WANTED TO SPEAKING AT TIME.
I'M SAYING IT FOR BOTH OF YOU GUYS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS THEIR JOB AND AT THE SAME TIME, THIS WAS ONE OUT OF HOW MANY HUNDREDS THAT WE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH, THAT WE LOOK AT, YES, SOMETIMES THESE MISTAKES DO HAPPEN AND BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE CITY, IT HAPPENS ON A LARGER SCALE, WHICH IS TO BE EXPECTED.
BUT I WILL NOT STAND FOR THAT.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP HERE, RECTIFYING IT, OWNING IT, AND BUILDING IN FURTHER MECHANISMS AS WE CONTINUE THESE PROCESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS DO NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND IF THEY DO, WE HAVE PROCESSES TO CORRECT THEM.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
WELL, AND I'D LIKE TO REMIND US THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER LANGLEY IMPLEMENTED THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT.
IT DID NOT EXIST BEFORE HE CAME.
THEY WERE GETTING THEIR FEET WET AND DEVELOPING POLICIES THAT HAD NEVER BEEN THERE.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO DEVELOP.
I'M GLAD THAT THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT DEVELOPED.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS
UM, I, UM, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT SHE WAS SAYING, SO THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER GZA, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT TYPE OF CREDENTIALS OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT HAS? CAN I TELL YOU THAT OR HEAD? I I'M SORRY.
I'M, I CAN'T TELL WHO YOU'RE ASKING.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? COUNCIL, WHAT TYPE OF CREDENTIALS DO YOU EMPLOYEES WHO WERE AT THAT TIME IN OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT? HOLD? I'M NOT SURE.
UH, I DON'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING THE RESUMES.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE ON THE STAFF KNOWS ABOUT IT.
AND THEN WHO IS DOING OR PURCHASING AT THIS POINT? LIKE DID IT GO BACK TO FINANCE? IT IS NOW UNDER FINANCE.
SO WE'RE, WE JUST RECENTLY HIRED A PURCHASING MANAGER, UM, HAS A LOT OF PURCHASING EXPERIENCE.
I BELIEVE HE STARTED THIS WEEK.
HE COMES FROM ANOTHER CITY GOVERNMENT.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST HOLLY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER STAFF FROM FINANCE THAT ARE HELPING THIS PROCESS.
AND SO THEN TO CLARIFY, WHEN THIS WAS GOING THROUGH PROCESS IN 2025 LAST YEAR, UM, FINANCE, BECAUSE IT WAS NO LONGER DOING THE PURCHASING, IT WAS SEPARATE FROM THAT.
AND SO THE ONLY POINT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT IS WHEN YOU WERE PAYING IT.
IS THAT ACCURATE OR NOT? THAT IS ACCURATE.
UM, AND SO YOU WOULD BE THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR HIRING A NEW PURCHASING MANAGER.
SO DOES HE HAVE LIKE CERTIFIED TEXAS CONTRACT MANAGER EXPERIENCE? LIKE WHAT IS HIS LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE? BECAUSE FROM A PERSON WHO WAS A PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED TEXAS CONTRACT MANAGER WHO DID THAT AS PART OF PROCUREMENT UNDER THE STATE OF TEXAS, WE HAD TO HAVE POLICIES IN PLACE ON HOW WE DID EVERYTHING, HOW EVERYTHING WAS REVIEWED, ET CETERA.
AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE GOING FORWARD TO ENSURE THAT OUR POLICIES ARE IN PLACE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS HAPPEN.
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BUT IT ALSO, UM, ON ANOTHER NOTE, GIVES ME A LOT OF PAUSE TO BE LIKE, THIS IS EXACTLY THE THINGS THAT ARE UNDERLYING THAT MIGHT BE HIDDEN, THAT ARE SUPPORTING OUR REASON FOR A DEEPER AUDIT.AND SO, UM, IF YOU COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION, SORRY FOR THE SEGUE
UH, I'M GONNA ASK HOLLY BECAUSE SHE WAS A, UH, PERSON THAT REVIEWED THE, THE, UH, ALL THE APPLICATIONS THAT CAME THROUGH.
AND THE ONE THAT WAS SELECTED, IF YOU COULD SHARE SOME BACKGROUND, HOLLY, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
UM, YEAH, SO TY WALLACE, HE COMES FROM THE CITY OF TOMBALL.
HE DID START ON MONDAY THE 31ST.
UM, HE IS A CERTIFIED PROCUREMENT PROFESSIONAL FROM TOMBALL.
UM, AND HE IS DOING ACTIVELY, HE WAS BEFORE HE LEFT TOMBALL DOING MUNICIPAL PROCUREMENT, UH, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES INCODE, WHICH WE USE HEAVILY.
SO VERY TURNKEY POSITION FOR US.
UH, VERY EXPERIENCED WITH, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN PROCUREMENT.
UM, AND WAS VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED, A VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED CANDIDATE.
WE DID HAVE A QUALIFIED CANDIDATES AS WELL IN THE POOL.
WE HAD LOTS OF GREAT APPLICATIONS, BUT HE DID QUITE WELL.
VERY EDUCATED, VERY QUALIFIED, CERTIFIED, UH, AND HE HAS STARTED WITH JUST HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD OUT THAT, UH, THAT, UM, DEPARTMENT AGAIN, OR THAT DIVISION I SHOULD SAY.
BUT STARTING WITH THE PROCUREMENT SUPERVISOR GIVES HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY BE HANDS ON IN SELECTING THE OTHER MEMBERS AS WE EXPAND AGAIN.
ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILMAN MCKINNEY? YEP.
YOU, YOU USED THE WORD SAMPLE, UH, OF, OF THEIR WORK.
WOULD YOU SAY THAT, AND TO ME THAT INDICATES, UH, A REPETITION OR, OR WOULD YOU SAY THAT MAYBE THIS IS A, LIKE A SYSTEMIC ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN DUPLICATED? HAVE WE SEEN OTHER, HAVE, HAVE WE UNCOVERED ANY OTHER SITUATIONS LIKE THIS? OH, YEAH.
I DON'T, I'M, I'M ASSUMING MY PEERS WOULD AS WELL.
UH, AN EMAIL THAT LISTS OUT, IT WAS NOT TOO LONG AGO.
MAYOR HAS, YEAH, THERE WAS THE SLUDGE BROUGHT IT UP FROM THE DIOCESE.
WE HAD TO PULL THE SLUDGE WASTE SO THEY COULD GO BACK AND REEVALUATE THAT CONTRACT AS WELL.
AND THAT WAS JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? OKAY, SO IF, IF I COULD WELL, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TALK REAL QUICK.
UM, I WAITED, TELL EVERYBODY, BECAUSE I CAN UNDERSTAND BOTH THE FRUSTRATION AND THEN THE ASK FOR GRACE.
UM, COMING FROM MAYOR PRO TEMP TOBIAS, HE HAS HAD SERVED EIGHT YEARS AND HE'S BEEN IN A POSITION WHERE HE'S HAD TO EAT CROW A COUPLE TIMES AND, AND SEE THINGS THAT HE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM A SITUATION OF TRUST TO NOW QUESTIONING EVERYTHING, UM, I CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
I CAN ALSO, UM, UNDERSTAND ASKING FOR GRACE.
UM, BUT $2.5 MILLION IS LITERALLY OUR WHOLE CUSHION FOR 2026 AND 2027.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
UM, I, I SEE HERE THAT, UM, THEY HAVE EXCEEDED THE AMOUNT OF THE REVISED CONTRACT, AND I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA GET REIMBURSED.
SO, UM, MAYBE I CAN GET TIM TO HELP ME WITH THAT NUMBER.
UM, GOT THAT TIM, SO TIM, I, FOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR UTILITIES, I DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER.
UM, BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNSEL TO APPROVE IS A DO NOT, TO DO NOT EXCEED THAT AMOUNT.
THAT'S ON THE, I I DON'T WANT THAT EXACTLY IN FRONT OF ME.
BUT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT IS THE CONTRACTOR HAS SIGNED THAT AMENDMENT TO THE SERVICE AGREEMENT.
AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE PROJECT CLOSES IS THERE'LL BE A CORRECTIVE CHANGE ORDER ISSUED TO THE CITY.
SO THE CITY WILL NOT SPEND ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THIS EVENING.
AND THAT, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT CORRECT.
SO THE AMOUNT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THAT AMOUNT PLUS THE CONTINGENCY OF 20%, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN ORIGINALLY AWARDED.
AND YOU GUYS WILL GIVE US THE AMOUNT MAYBE BY EMAIL, HOW MUCH WE'RE GONNA GET REIMBURSED? WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
'CAUSE MY CONCERN IS NOT ONLY DID THEY APPROVE THE WRONG AMOUNT, BUT NOW WE'VE PAID OVER.
AND SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHO CAUGHT THIS MISTAKE? MR. VAN WINKLE'S OUR TREATMENT OPERATIONS DIVISION MANAGER.
AND THIS WAS CAUGHT THROUGH HIS REVIEW OF SOME POST-IMPLEMENTATION SERVICES.
UH, SO HE WAS GOING THROUGH TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT COST WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
AND SO THAT REQUIRED HIM TO GET INTO THE BID TAG RELATIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT COST WAS.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN IT WAS IDENTIFIED.
MR. VAN WINKLE HIM A BIG YEAH, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, MR. VAN WINKLE, YOU, YOU SAVED THE CITY.
THAT'S HIS JOB FOR, LIKE, HE, HE SHOULD BE SECURED FOR 20 YEARS.
UM, I, I, YOU KNOW, THE SAD PART IS IT, IT DID GO THROUGH SO MANY HANDS.
YOU KNOW, IT WENT THROUGH, UM, THE DEPARTMENT, THE, THE PROCUREMENT, THE CITY
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ATTORNEY, THE CITY MANAGER.UM, PEOPLE GIVE US A HARD TIME ALL THE TIME ABOUT ASKING FOR, UH, A FORENSIC AUDIT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS WASN'T CAUGHT IN THE ANNUAL AUDIT THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY THAT SHOULD COVER IT.
AND YET, THIS IS OUR SECOND CONTRACT WHERE WE'VE HAD AN ISSUE.
AND SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PROVING AND POINTING FINGERS, IT'S ABOUT REALLY TIGHTENING UP OUR BELT AND FIGURING OUT WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT WORKING.
UM, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT SUPPORTING GOOD BEHAVIOR, AND WE SHOULDN'T BE ASHAMED OF THAT OR SCARED OF THAT.
WE COULD PUT EVERY MISTAKE OUT THERE, AND AS LONG AS WE LEARN FROM IT, I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
UM, AND SO I, I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BRINGING THIS UP.
UM, HAD I KNOWN IT WAS GONNA BE, I, I, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN I SIT DOWN AND DO THE, UH, AGENDA MEETING, I DON'T GO THROUGH THE BACKUP.
SO I DO THAT, THAT'S MY OWN FAULT.
I WAIT, I WAIT A LITTLE LONGER TO, TO DO THE BACKUP.
MR. MOHE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF EXPLAINING THE ITEMS. UM, AND THEN WHEN I GOT TO THIS ONE, IT JUST, IT BOTHERED ME.
SO, AND ME AND MAYOR PROTE TALKED ABOUT IT AND, YOU KNOW, HE HAD CAUGHT THE LAST ONE AS WELL, THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD WITH THE, THE SLUDGE.
AND SO, UM, I MEAN, IT'S WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE THAT ACTIVE INTO DOING YOUR RESEARCH, YOU DO GET A LITTLE BIT A BUILT UP OF FRUSTRATION.
AND SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
THIS IS IN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER, UM, BUDGET, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT GENERAL FUND? NO, THIS IS WATER WASTEWATER.
SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT GENERAL FUND BUDGET DEFICIT.
I WAS GONNA POINT THAT OUT TOO BEFORE ANYBODY GOES ON A SPENDING SPREE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS STILL, REGARDLESS OF WHAT FUND IT COMES FROM, IT IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND IT REPRESENTS, I MEAN, AND IT ALL HASN'T BEEN PAID.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HAS, HOW MUCH WE'VE OVERPAID, BUT, UM, I DO APPRECIATE IT BEING CAUGHT.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 13.
IF I COULD JUST SAY ONE MORE THING.
I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO THE COUN, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, TO BE ASKED THIS QUESTION ABOUT HOW CAN WE BE SURE THIS ISN'T HAPPENING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE USED THE CSP PROJECT BID PROCESS.
WE TYPICALLY DO REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS OR REQUESTS FOR BIDS, WHICH THAT MEANS THE REVIEW TEAM HAS ACCESS TO ALL OF THE INFORMATION INSTEAD OF JUST A SMALL PIECE OF IT.
SO I THINK GOING FORWARD, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, ME AND MY TEAM, AND I KNOW AMBER AND PERVE, WE ALL TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND I PROMISE YOU THE, WHEN WE FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS, WE IMMEDIATELY STARTED ADDRESSING IT TO TRY TO FIND OUT, OKAY, HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? AND HOW DO WE PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING? SO FROM NOW ON, WHEN WE USE THE CSP PROCESS, THE REVIEW TEAM IS GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE INFORMATION.
INSTEAD OF JUST A SMALL PIECE OF IT SO THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THIS TYPE OF THING DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
WE KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF TRUST IN WATER UTILITIES.
IT'S A BIG PROJECT, IT'S A BIG DEPARTMENT, AND IT'S, IT'S, WE ALL KNOW HOW VALUABLE WATER IS, AND WE TAKE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES VERY SERIOUSLY.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS SAID AND YOUR, YOUR, UH, CONFIDENCE YOU HAVE IN US TO CONTINUE AND UN UNDERSTAND.
AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, NOT HERE TO POINT FINGERS AT YOU, GENTLEMEN.
AND I NEED FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, IT, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME HEROES SAYING YOU HAD MISTAKES HAPPEN, BUT THIS IS A $2 MILLION MISTAKE.
AND SO IT GOES BACK TO MORE THAN JUST THE MISTAKE THAT SHE'S TRYING TO IMPLY.
IT GOES BACK TO THE INFORMATION FROM HOW MANY HANDS, HOW MANY TIMES IT'S GONE THROUGH, AND HOW MANY OTHER ONES THAT I FOUND AS WELL.
AND IT GOES BACK TO WHEN I MAKE THESE VOTES EVEN LAST YEAR, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I'M VOTING FOR, AND I HAVE ADVOCATED SO STRONGLY FOR CITY STAFF, THAT I NEED THE ACCURATE INFORMATION TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR FINANCES AND OUR MONEY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT SEVEN PEOPLE PUT THEIR HANDS ON OR THREE, AND IF THIS IS YOUR EXPERTISE AND THIS IS YOUR JOB, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT, YOU GOTTA HAVE THE CHAIN OF COMMAND PROCESS AND STILL, WE HAVE THIS, I AM GONNA BE UPSET ABOUT IT AND I'M GOING TO VOICE IT.
AND THE PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANNA KNOW TOO.
I MEAN, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S THE HONEST TRUTH.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, RESIDENTS ARE GONNA WANNA KNOW THIS.
THEY'RE GONNA ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT MAYOR PROTO BE IS ASKED.
AND SO WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO, TO ANSWER THEM, AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW? SURE.
SO ADDRESSING IT, I THINK IS THE BEST THING THAT WE CAN DO.
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MOVING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW WE HANDLE THINGS.WE JUST, WE FESS UP TO THE SITUATION AND THEN WE MOVE ON.
AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO GET AWAY FROM JUST THE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE, THE BASIC PRESENTATION AND, AND LET YOU HEAR EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MADE THAT CLEAR TO COUNCIL AND BE VERY TRANSPARENT WITH YOU GUYS.
WELL, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 13 SECOND.
HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY.
[25) Consider approval of a Resolution authorizing the construction of a 6 or 8-foot masonry fence as part of the 2022 Road Bond program Center Street (Off-System) project, at the intersection of Center Street and Old Stagecoach Road in an amount not to exceed $106,880.00, and direct staff to bring back a License Agreement with the Hometown Kyle Homeowners Association, Inc. and the affected property owners for the construction and maintenance of the masonry fence.]
AGENDA ITEM 25.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SIX OR EIGHT FOOT MASONRY FENCE AS PART OF THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM PROJECT AT THE INTERSECTION OF CENTER STREET, AN OLD STAGE COACH ROAD IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $106,880 AND DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH THE HOMETOWN KYLE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, INC.
AND THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE MASONRY FENCE ITEM PRESENTER, LEON, BARB, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL LEON BARB, A CITY ENGINEER 2022 ROAD BOND PROJECTS IN NOVEMBER OF 2022.
KYLE VOTERS APPROVED PROPOSITION A, A ROAD BOND FOR A TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS ACROSS KYLE FOR A TOTAL OF 10.3 MILES OF NEW LOCATION RECONSTRUCTION AND WIDENING PROJECTS TO IMPROVE THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION NETWORK.
THIS PROJECT WILL IMPROVE CENTER STREET FROM OLD STAGE ROAD TO VETERANS DRIVE.
ONE PROJECT IN PARTICULAR WAS CENTER STREET ALL SYSTEM, THE PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDED EXIST.
UH, THE EXISTING THREE LANE SECTION WILL BE IMPROVED BY WIDENING THE CENTER LANE TO ENHANCE OPERATIONS.
SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT OLD STAGE COACH, ROAD AND CENTER STREET, ROAD AWAY ILLUMINATION AND DRAINAGE AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS PROJECT WILL REDUCE TRAFFIC INGESTION AND ENHANCED SAFETY.
SOME OF THE BACKGROUND ON THIS PROJECT IN JANUARY 24, UH, ALIGNMENT AND DESIGN FEATURES WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
THE TASK ORDER TO PAVE DAWSON WAS APPROVED TO COMPLETE THE FINAL DESIGN IN APRIL OF 26.
PROJECT WAS AWARDED TO CASH CONSTRUCTION, UH, MA MOSSEK COMPANY, AND WAS PRESENTED TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL ON JUNE 22ND OF 26TH.
THE, UH, WE ISSUED NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR THE PROJECT TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION, UH, SCHEDULE FOR THIS IS WE'RE HOPING TO COMPLETE THIS SUMMER OF 2028.
THERE'S ONE PARTICULAR ISSUE AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, CENTER STREET AND OLD STATE COACH.
UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A POSSIBILITY OF INSTALLING A MASONRY FENCE THERE.
AND WE HAVE, UH, TWO PROPOSALS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
ONE IS A SIX FOOT FENCE, AND THIS IS A ROCK MORTARED WALL.
AND THE OTHER IS A MASON FOOT MASONRY FENCE, WHICH IS COST US $106,880,000.
STAFF REACHED OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR CLARIFICATION OF THE FENCE HEIGHT.
TWO, THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE CONFIRMED THE HEIGHT TO BE EIGHT FEET.
THE PROBLEM IS WITH ITS EIGHT FOOT FENCE, IS IT CITY ORDINANCE PROHIBITS ANYTHING OVER SIX FEET.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE BRING THIS TO COUNSEL FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND APPROVE.
IF YOU WANNA GO WITH A SIX OR THE EIGHT, YOUR TWO OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZE AS CONSTRUCTION OF A SIX OR EIGHT FOOT MASONRY FENCE AS PART OF THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROGRAM CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM PROJECT AT THE INTERSECTION OF CENTER STREET, ALLSTATE CHURCH ROAD IN A NOT TO EXCEED $106,880 IN DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK A LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THE HOMETOWN CO-OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE OF THE MASONRY FENCE.
OPTION TWO IS TO DENY THE RESOLUTION.
WELL, I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25 AT THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY FENCE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA AND A SECOND BY MYSELF.
ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY.
IF ANYBODY EVER THINKS THAT, UH, SUSAN COMMENTS DON'T MATTER OR DON'T HELP, UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UH, THAT THOMAS, IS IT SHENIK? ALRIGHT.
UH, YOUR PERSPECTIVE, UH, KIND OF CHANGED MY MIND ON THIS.
UH, INITIALLY MY THOUGHTS WERE THAT THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERSECTION ALREADY DOING ENOUGH TO, TO BRING THE, THE SAFETY ASPECT UP TO A HIGHER LEVEL THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
UH, I QUESTIONED WHETHER IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO CHARGE EVERY TAXPAYER IN THE CITY OF KYLE TO BASICALLY PUT UP, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS MORE FOR AESTHETIC THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
BUT YOU GOT ME TO THINKING ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH THAT AREA.
AND IT'S, IT'S A LOT RIGHT NOW.
AND ONCE THESE ROADS ARE COMPLETED, IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.
AND ESPECIALLY AT THE INTERSECTIONS, THE NOISE LEVEL, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A PROFOUND IMPACT, UH, ON THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT THERE.
UM, GOING FROM THE SIX TO THE EIGHT, UH, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THE HOA WOULD
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BE WILLING TO COVER THE COST DIFFERENCE.UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
IF WE COULD NEGOTIATE WITH THAT, THAT WITH THEM, SO THAT IT DOESN'T FALL EXCLUSIVELY ON THE TAXPAYERS, AND THEN WE COULD SHARE PART OF THAT.
UH, I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD SATISFY OUR OBLIGATIONS.
UH, I, I DO ULTIMATELY BELIEVE THAT THE EIGHT FOOT IS THE BETTER OPTION.
I WOULD JUST PREFER TO NOT HAVE ALL OF IT FALL ON THE CITY.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S MY TAKE.
UH, BUT I, HAVING GOTTEN FRESH NEW INFORMATION AND CAPABLE OF CHANGING MY MIND, SO GREAT JOB, SIR.
I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA GO WITH THE 10 FOOT
WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR BUSH, YOU PUT SOME BUSH THERE, AND YOU JUST HAVE A METAL PIECES TO WHERE, WHEN EVENTUALLY WHEN CARS DO HIT IT, THEY COULD, THEY WILL DESTROY THEIR CAR TO WHERE IT NEEDS, BECAUSE IT'S, IT MIGHT HAPPEN, I HOPE IT DOESN'T, BUT IT WILL.
BUT I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA GO 10 FEET AND HAVE A METAL BRACKET BARRIER LIKE YOU TO HAVE ON THE HIGHWAY, BUT HAVE IT, UH, SUBMITTED.
AND, UM, BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
AND, AND WE, WE LISTENED LIKE MAYOR, UH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY IS STATED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TAKE ALL THE, YOUR COMMENTS INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HOMETOWN, KYLE, PEOPLE THAT CAME AND TESTIFIED THIS EVENING.
UM, YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD MY SYMPATHY ON THIS ISSUE.
UM, I THINK THAT, THAT THE HOUSE THERE ON THE CORNER HAS A VERY LEGITIMATE, UH, COMPLAINT ABOUT HOW THAT INTERSECTION IS GOING TO UNPACK THEIR PROPERTY.
I THINK THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE.
WOULDN'T HURT TO PUT BALLERS OR SOMETHING THERE AS WELL.
UM, I, THE, I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE LIGHT ISSUE AND NOISE ISSUE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY THERE.
I GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION ALL THE TIME.
AND WE'VE GOT, UM, DEVELOPERS TALKING ABOUT ADDING TO THAT, UH, AREA.
IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN MORE BUSY.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND, UM, MAKING YOUR KNOWN NEEDS BE KNOWN TO THE WHOLE COUNCIL.
UM, WE STILL DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE PLAN FOR STAGE COACH.
UH, IT KIND OF KEEPS SHIFTING AS THE, UH, NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS ALONG THAT STREET ON OR TRY TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, AND THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN LOCATING ALONG THAT STREET, IT'S VERY, VERY COMPLEX.
BUT I TOTALLY SUPPORT THAT EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
UM, AND, UM, HAPPY TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, I GUESS AT THIS POINT I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FROM HOMETOWN, KYLE, FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING YET AGAIN.
I WAS SITTING OUT THERE AS THE RESIDENT WITH YOU, UM, THE MOM OUT HERE WHO WAS CONCERNED WITH HER KIDS PLAYING IN THE BACKYARD AND THE CARS CRASHING THROUGH.
IF THIS ROUNDABOUT WAS PUT IN WITH NO BARRIERS, PROTECTING HER BACKYARD, UM, I REMEMBER SITTING OUT THERE WHEN YOU CAME AND YOU SPOKE MULTIPLE TIMES AGAINST THIS, GOING RIGHT OUTSIDE, RIGHT UP NEXT TO YOUR FENCE.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING BACK OUT AND AGAIN, YET SHARING YOUR FRUSTRATIONS AND YOUR FEARS FOR YOUR SAFETY OF YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR FAMILY.
UM, AND SO HOPEFULLY NOW AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE GET THIS DONE FOR YOU AND IT HELPS GIVE YOU A LITTLE, AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF A PEACE OF MIND.
ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER, GOZA, HOW OFTEN ARE CARS GOING INTO THE FENCES? YOU SAID YOU'VE HAD A FEW TIMES, MR. ROCHA, THREE AND HOW MANY YEARS? OKAY, SO THAT'S A LOT.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE ON THAT MASONRY WALL, PUTTING THAT UP WITH THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT ARE HITTING IT.
UM, I'M WORRIED ABOUT ENGINEERING AND DESIGN STANDARDS AND HOW WE REINFORCE IT TO PREVENT HAVING TO REBUILD THIS WALL MULTIPLE TIMES OVER POSSIBLY A DECADE.
UM, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT IT IS NEEDED JUST HEARING WHAT I'M HEARING.
'CAUSE I THINK BACK TO HEMI SANCHEZ WHO HAS THIS PROPERTY HERE ON CENTER STREET IN ONE 50, AND A CAR TOOK OUT ONE OF HIS PILLARS THAT WAS DEEPLY CEMENTED INTO THE GROUND.
SO JUST TAKING THAT AMOUNT OF FORCE, UM, I THINK I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THAT WALL, BUT IT'S, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENGINEERING STANDARD SO THAT WE CAN MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REPAIR WHEN INEVITABLY THOSE CARS GO INTO IT.
WE DO ALL FUTURE MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS, WHATEVER.
IT WOULD NOT BE A CON CONTINUING PROBLEM FOR THE CITY.
I WOULD THANK FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ASSUME THAT CAR INSURANCE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO, THAT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF UNINSURED DRIVERS.
UNLESS THEY'RE HIT BY AN UNINSURED DRIVER, BUT
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YEAH.COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA COUNCIL MEMBER GOES, I DO WANNA MENTION THAT WHEN THE, ACCORDING TO THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, ANY FENCE OVER SEVEN FEET HAS TO BE DESIGNED BY AN ENGINEER.
SO WE'LL BE ENGINEERED AND, UH, THEY'LL BE NEEDING TO GET A PERMIT FOR THAT AND ALSO WILL BE INSPECTED.
UM, I THINK THIS BRINGS UP A, UH, GREATER ISSUE THAT I THINK MANY RESIDENTS ARE IMPACTED.
I THINK THIS IS A MICROCOSM OF, UH, ISSUES THAT WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT AT OTHER INTERSECTIONS, UM, WHERE WE ARE DOING THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I SEE THIS IS, THIS ISN'T A ONE-OFF, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT SETS THE STANDARD FOR HOW WE SHOULD APPROACH FUTURE INTERSECTIONS AS WE'RE BUILDING AND COMPLETING OUR ROAD BOND PROJECTS.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS, LIKE I SAID, NOT TO BE A ONE-OFF, BUT FOR IT TO BE A CONTINUING PRACTICE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING, UH, THOSE WHO ARE BEING MOST IMPACTED BY THESE NEW ROADS AND NEW INTERSECTIONS, UM, AND THAT ARE GAINING OR LOSING LAND AND THE ROADS ARE MOVING CLOSER TO THE BACKS OF THEIR HOMES OR TO THE FRONT OF THEIR HOMES.
UM, WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN PROTECT 'EM AND, AND, AND FURTHER KEEP THEM SAFE.
UM, OFF OF OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, UM, THERE IS A HOUSE AND I FEEL SO BAD FOR IT 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S LIKE THE THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH TIME, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LONG TIME, UM, ON CYPRESS FOREST.
UM, THERE'S CARS THAT KEEP ON SWERVING AND BREAKING DOWN THEIR FENCE AND IT'S LIKE HAPPENED LIKE AT LEAST TWICE NOW IN LIKE, THE LAST LIKE YEAR OR SO.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT AS WE EVEN IMPROVE OLD STAGE COACH ROAD, LIKE THOSE ARE GONNA BE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOR.
UM, AND SO I JUST, I APPRECIATE THE RESIDENTS OF HOMETOWN, KYLE FOR CONTINUOUSLY ADVOCATING BECAUSE THIS JUST GOES TO HIGHLIGHT A BIGGER ISSUE THAT WE CAN FURTHER ADDRESS.
SO YOU'RE KEEPING NOT ONLY YOUR FAMILY SAFE, BUT MANY OTHER FAMILIES HERE IN KYLE SAFE FOR YEARS TO COME.
I WANNA SAY I REMEMBER TALKING TO TIA OUT IN THE HALL AND WE WERE SO CONCERNED, AND I LOOK AT WHERE WE COME NOW, LIKE WE'VE COME SO FAR AND I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE STAFF THAT'S WORKED WITH HER AND THE HOA IN ORDER TO COME TO A GOOD MEDIUM.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, MY HEART WENT OUT TO YOU WHENEVER, UM, YOU SAID YOUR KIDS PLAY IN THE BACK AND IT, IT WAS GONNA WORRY YOU.
AND I'M JUST REALLY GREAT GRATEFUL TO OUR STAFF AND TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, ZAPATA, WHO MADE THE MOTION WITHOUT HESITATION AND EVERYBODY UP HERE THAT SUPPORTS IT BECAUSE, UM, IT WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE THAT.
SO I AM, I FEEL HONORED TO BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THIS GROUP TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION FOR YOU.
AND SO WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SADA A SECOND BY MYSELF.
[27) (Tabled 8/18/2026) Consider directing the Interim City Manager to undertake the necessary evaluation and planning to repurpose the Krug Activity Center for use as an administrative office facility and an annex to City Hall, including evaluating the feasibility of relocating, to the extent feasible, all remaining administrative personnel, (excluding Police Department personnel), from the Public Safety Center to the Krug Activity Center, and to take such further administrative actions as may be necessary or appropriate to facilitate such repurposing and relocation of City staff. ]
WE HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 27.CONSIDER DIRECTING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO UNDERTAKE THE NECESSARY EVALUATION AND PLANNING TO REPURPOSE THE KRUG ACTIVITY CENTER FOR USE AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE FACILITY AND AN ANNEX TO CITY HALL, INCLUDING EVALUATING THE FEASIBILITY OF RELOCATING TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE, ALL REMAINING ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL, EXCLUDING POLICE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER TO THE KRUG ACTIVITY CENTER.
AND TO TAKE SUCH FURTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS AS MAY BE NECESSARY OR APPROPRIATE TO FACILITATE SUCH REPURPOSING AND RELOCATION OF CITY STAFF.
ALL RIGHT, THIS IS MY ITEM AND I BROUGHT IT, UM, WITH, UH, WITH ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM THAT HAD TO DO LAST MEETING WITH, UH, REMOVING OURSELVES FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
SO IN AN ATTEMPT TO, UM, PROVIDE MORE OFFICE SPACE TO OUR STAFF AND, UM, SO THEY'RE COMFORTABLE AND TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE THEM.
UM, THIS WAS ONE OF THE PLACES I THOUGHT OF.
I KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S EXTRA SPACES IN REPUBLIC DRIVE, SORRY.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE SUFFICIENT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS, BUT I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF AI, BUT I DID AI A PICTURE OF LIKE, WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE TO HAVE OFFICES IN THE CREW CENTER.
UM, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA SHARE IT 'CAUSE I'M NOT, I DON'T WANNA MISLEAD ANYBODY
THAT IS OUR ORIGINAL CITY HALL.
UM, IT ALSO TURNED INTO, LIKE THEY SAID, AN OPERA HOUSE.
UM, IT, IT'S BEEN USED AS MANY, IT WAS THE SENIOR CENTER, DEDICATED SENIOR CENTER.
UM, AND SO IT'S BEEN USED WITH A LOT OF PURPOSES.
AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE, THE SIZE AND THE SOUND AND, BUT YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT IT WAS ONCE OUR CITY HALL AND THAT OFFICES WORKED THERE PRIOR TO, UM, I JUST THOUGHT INSTEAD OF SPENDING $3 MILLION ON THE MODULAR BUILDINGS, MAYBE WE COULD TRY TO RECONFIGURE OR TEMPORARILY USE, UM, THE CREW CENTER.
UM, AND I TALKED TO SOMEBODY TODAY AND THEY WERE LIKE, WELL, WHAT IS OUR PLAN GONNA BE TO GET THEM OUT OF THE KRUG CENTER? AND SO I THINK THIS, THAT
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WOULD BE A MULTI, MULTI-STEP PROCESS.UM, AND MAYBE TAKING SOME OF THE 3 MILLION THAT WE APPROVED FOR THE MODULAR JUST TO TEMPORARILY HOUSE, UM, STAFF AT THE KRUG, AND THEN HAVE A PLAN IN LIKE TWO OR THREE YEARS TO EXPAND CITY HALL.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WITH DISCUSSION.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE OTHER USES AND THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS TO USE FOR IT.
AND I'M OPEN TO THAT TOO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THIS.
I WAS HOPING TO PRESENT IT AT THE SAME TIME AS A PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT IT GOT TO BE LATE.
AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DO THAT TODAY.
SO, UM, IF, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY? UH, UM, I'LL SAY THAT, UH, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CRITICISMS OF YOU IS THAT YOU DON'T BRING SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS. YOU, YOU JUST ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING, YOU KNOW, A SOLUTION, AT LEAST, UH, I, I, I WORRY ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF PUTTING IN ALL THE ELECTRICAL, ALL THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS, ALL OF, UH, ALL THE, THE THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE THAT A FUNCTIONAL, USABLE, WORKABLE OFFICE SPACE.
UM, BUT EVEN MORE SO, I, I FEEL LIKE THE CREW BUILDING IS A BUILDING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AS SOON AS YOU START PUTTING OFFICES IN THERE, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S, IT'S CLOSED OFF AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A BIG PART OF OUR PARK THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO.
AND SO, WELL, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SUPPORT YOUR SOLUTION.
I, I JUST, UH, I FEEL LIKE IT IS, IS GOING TO CAUSE MORE AND BIGGER PROBLEMS THAN, THAN IT SOLVES.
UH, I, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GET ALL THE PEOPLE OUT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER.
WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH OFFICE SPACE SOLUTIONS.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
IS I, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S, IT'S THE COMMUNITY'S BUILDING.
IT NEEDS TO STAY THE COMMUNITY'S BUILDING.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY.
UM, THE CREEK BUILDING IS NOT PARTICULARLY, UM, APPROPRIATE FOR INDIVIDUAL OFFICE SPACE.
UH, IT WILL TAKE A GREAT DEAL OF WORK TO MAKE IT APPROPRIATE.
IT'S VERY LOUD
UM, I PROBABLY, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM'S BEEN IN THERE WHEN ACTIVITIES ARE GOING ON AND IT'S HARD TO HEAR.
UM, IF IT'S OFFICE SPACE, YOU WOULD HEAR EVERYBODY'S CUBICLES.
UM, AND CONVERTING IT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE.
I THINK WE DO HAVE OTHER AREAS, UH, THE, UH, SUCH AS AT THE REPUBLIC BUILDING THAT WE COULD USE FOR TEMPORARY SPACE.
UM, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THE LIBRARY THAT HAPPEN WITH THE LIBRARY BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE FEW SPACES THE PUBLIC CAN USE, BUT IT COULD BE USED, UM, TEMPORARILY FOR OFFICES.
UM, I DID LIKE THE IDEA OF THE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS, UM, UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE PEOPLE GO, UM, WE, THE COUNCIL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A PLACE TO GO.
UM, AND I, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CRITICIZED, UH, BEAR HEISER FOR BASICALLY MAKING SUMMER MOON HIS OFFICE AND CHARGING COFFEES THERE.
BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE OUR OFFICES AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER WERE SO INADEQUATE THAT NONE OF US REALLY USED THEM.
UM, BECAUSE IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO BRING SOMEBODY INTO THAT BUILDING, WALKING THROUGH A MEETING TO GET INTO OUR OFFICE THAT WE SHARED WITH ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WITH ONE DESK AND ONE COMPUTER.
UM, SO I, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THE CREW IS THE BEST OPTION.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE WITH THAT BUILDING, UM, THAT ARE OF A PUBLIC PURPOSE, UH, RATHER THAN MAKING IT INTO CITY OFFICES.
ANYBODY ELSE? I DO WANNA STATE THAT IT PUBLIC PURPOSE WOULD BE AN OFFICE.
WELL,
UH, A LOT OF TIMES MAY WE AGREE, BUT THIS ONE I'M GOING TO, UM, LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UM, ON THIS END BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT, UH, IN, IN DUE TIME WE'LL BE HAVING, UH, OUR COLD WEATHER COMING.
AND I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT THE KRUG ACTIVITY CENTER WOULD BE A PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN, IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OR SOMETHING.
UH, SAME THING WITH THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.
UM, I KNOW AT ONE TIME WE DID TALK ABOUT, UH, OTHER OFFICES THAT, OR, OR OTHER BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE COULD CONVERT INTO OFFICE SPACES.
I KNOW WE LOOKED AT SOME SPACES OVER THERE OFF OF IH 35.
UM, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN LOOKING AROUND AGAIN MYSELF AND I FOUND SOME LIKE OTHER OFFICES UP THERE BY TARGET IN THOSE OTHER AREAS.
UH, I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE GET AN IDEA IF AN OFFICE SPACE WOULD BE AT THE CREW.
BILL, WHAT, WHAT'S THE, THE PLANS THAT MAYBE THE CITY HAS? I REMEMBER YOU HAD SPOKEN EARLIER ABOUT IF THERE'S OTHER AREAS WITHIN
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THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT WE COULD LOOK AT BESIDES JUST THIS AND HOW MUCH SPACE DO YOU WE REALLY NEED AT THIS MOMENT? WOULD, WOULD YOU KNOW, SIR, COUNCIL MEMBER? WE'RE STILL EVALUATING THE OPTIONS.UM, THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
THAT INCLUDES MODULAR OFFICE SPACE, TEMPORARY, UH, ACROSS THE PARKING LOT HERE.
UM, AND MAYBE EVEN CATTYCORNER WHERE THE CAR WASH USED TO BE.
PUTTING SOME MODULAR OFFICES THERE.
THE PRIMARY GOAL WAS TO VACATE THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO WHEN THIS ITEM CAME UP ON THE AGENDA FROM COUNCIL, WE TOOK A PAUSE AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S SEE WHERE COUNCIL WANTS TO GO ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER.
SO IF WE GET DIRECTION THAT KRUG IS NOT AN OPTION, WE WILL GO BACK TO THE EVALUATION AND BRING BACK SOME OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
I THINK YOU HAVE YOUR DIRECTION.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
UH, THERE'S OFFICE SPACE UPSTAIRS THAT THERE IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR STORAGE.
SO AS A VERY TEMPORARY MEASURE, THERE'S AN OFFICE DOWNSTAIRS.
HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD RELATIVELY FIT WITHIN THE OFFICE DOWNSTAIRS AND THEN THE UPSTAIRS SPACE, JUST AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE, WHILE WE'RE FIGURING OUT OTHER SOLUTIONS, WE NEED AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET TO VACATE THE SECOND FLOOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, I'VE HEARD TONIGHT A REPUBLIC BUILDING AND LIBRARY.
WE'RE GONNA ADD THAT TO OUR LIST OF OPTIONS AND SEE HOW MANY WE CAN FIT.
UM, I MEAN, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO ADDING THE THAT INTO THE MIX IF IT'S A VERY TEMPORARY CONDITION WHERE WE CAN STILL USE THE BALLROOM SPACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF DIVVY THINGS UP AS A TEMPORARY MEASURE.
BUT, UM, TO COMPLETELY RULE IT OUT WHEN WE DESPERATELY NEED THE SPACE, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M COMFORTABLE DOING THAT, BUT I'M ALSO NOT COMFORTABLE IN HAVING TO RETROFIT THE ENTIRE DOWNSTAIRS BALLROOM WITH CUBICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S, UM, AN EXCESSIVE EXPENSE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN ON.
UM, I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT THE UPSTAIRS OFFICE SPACE AS WELL.
UM, THE REASON WHY I HAVE REMOVED THAT IDEA FROM MY MIND IS BECAUSE ANY PUBLIC SPACE THAT WOULD BE USED, WHICH TECHNICALLY WOULD BE UH, LIKE OFFICE AND WHATNOT, WOULD HAVE TO BECOME AADA A COMPLIANT.
AND THAT WOULD BE A HUGE LIFT, A HUGE ASK.
AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, WORKING WITH THEM ON GETTING THAT TO BE A DA COMPLIANT.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, UM, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S NOT LIKE A DOOR SEPARATING THAT.
SO YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO CREATE SOME PRIVACY BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT MATERIALS ARE KEPT THERE IN THE OFFICES, YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TO THINK ABOUT LIKE, HOW DO YOU RECONSTRUCT THAT AND THE DOOR FRAMING AND WHATNOT.
AND, AND SO I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT OF COSTS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED TO MAKING IT A DA COMPLIANT.
UM, AND KEEPING, UH, CONFIDENTIALITY SECURE, UH, WITH ANY SORT OF MATERIALS THAT ARE THERE FROM STAFF.
UM, I LIKE THE IDEA IN SPIRIT OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CREATIVE WAYS TO COME UP WITH OUR, UH, SPACING ISSUE.
SO I APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF LIKE THROWING ANYTHING OUT THERE RIGHT.
AND SEEING WHAT FITS AND SEEING WHAT WORKS.
UM, I THINK UNFORTUNATELY THIS ISN'T ONE THAT DOES WORK AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
UM, I ALSO WOULD NOT LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER THE LIBRARY IF WE CONSIDER REPUBLIC DRIVE.
I THINK THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
BUT THIS COMMUNITY LACKS INDOOR PUBLIC SPACES.
UM, THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES, WHICH IS WHY PEOPLE CONSTANTLY ADVOCATE FOR A REC CENTER.
UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE INDOOR COMMUNITY SPACES.
SO THE MORE OF THOSE THAT WE CAN PROTECT, I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BEST SERVE OUR RESIDENTS.
UH, WE DO HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET, THE $3 MILLION MODULAR, UH, FUTURE CO BOND, UH, OR COS UH, YEAH.
UH, AND THAT'S UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS FUTURE CO.
UM, SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S ON OUR BUDGET AND OUR BUDGET HAS BEEN LOOKED AT, UM, AND AMENDED AND, UH, REVIEWED AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE, UH, APPROVING OF IT.
UH, BUT IT, IT SEEMS TO WORK OUT IN OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN.
UM, OTHERWISE I DON'T THINK OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER SLASH FINANCE DIRECTOR WOULD'VE ADDED IT IN THERE.
UM, SO BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO, UH, MONETARILY SUPPORT THE PURCHASE OF THOSE MODULAR BUILDINGS, UM, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST USE.
WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO REPURPOSE THOSE BUILDINGS.
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UH, MAYOR PRO TEMS, UM, EXAMPLE OF NEEDING, UH, UH, WARMING SHELTERS AND WARMING CENTERS FOR WHEN IT GETS COLD OR FOR WHEN THERE'S OTHER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ISSUES, THOSE MODULAR BUILDINGS AT A CERTAIN TIME MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE REPURPOSED FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MEET FUTURE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UM, SO I, I, LIKE I SAID, APPRECIATE THE, THE SENTIMENT AND THE IDEA OF TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT FIT.
[22) Consider approval of a Resolution authorizing an amendment to the engagement letter with TXLAW, P.C., dba PNT Law Firm to increase the approved expenditures by $52,000.00 for a total amount not to exceed $150,000.00. This item will require a budget amendment.]
TO AGENDA ITEM 22.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN AMENDMENT.
THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH TX LAW PC DBAP, AND T LAW FIRM TO INCREASE THE APPROVED EXPENDITURES BY 52,000 FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 150,000.
THIS ITEM WILL REQUIRE A BUDGET AMENDMENT ITEM PRESENTER, AMY ALQUAN REED.
AMY ALCORN, REED CITY ATTORNEY.
FOR THE RECORD, THIS ITEM IS DISCUSSING A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT WITH PNT LAW FIRM.
UH, THE CONTRACT WITH PNT LAW FIRM WAS APPROVED ON MAY 5TH, 2026 TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION TO THE RISK THAT THE CITY MAY, THE CITY, MAY, MAY HAVE DUE TO AWARD OF CONTRACT TO PRO, UM, FOR PROJECTS RELATED TO CITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN 2022.
ROAD BOND, PNT HAS A PRACTICE AREA THAT SPECIALIZES INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS.
UM, THEY HAVE TWO EXISTING CONTRACTS, ONE SMALL $20,000 CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER AND ONE $78,000 CONTRACT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN MAY OF 2026.
THEY HAVE REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL $52,000 FOR COST NOT TO EXCEED $150,000 TO COMPLETE THE INVESTIGATION AND DELIVER THE FINAL REPORT.
THE OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION AND AUTHORIZE THE AMENDMENT OR TO DENY THE RESOLUTION.
IF IT'S APPROVED, IT WILL REQUIRE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH WILL COME BACK NEXT MEETING.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, WHAT IS THIS FOR EXACTLY THE EXTRA $52,000? BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER MY IMPRESSION THAT THE LAST TIME WE MET WITH THEM THAT THE FINISHED FINAL OUTCOME WOULD NOT AMOUNT TO THIS $52,000.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS SOME OF THOSE COSTS WERE INCURRED PREVIOUSLY.
UM, WHEN THEY WERE SENT TO THEIR LAST INVOICE, I INFORMED THEM THAT THEY WERE GOING OVER THEIR AMOUNT AND THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD MORE INVOICES TO COME AND THAT THEY COULD HOLD IT TO THE $52,000 AT $150,000 TOTAL.
I'M TRYING TO THINK, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE A PROBLEM TO ME.
UM, IN TERMS OF, DO WE NOT HAVE ANY SORT OF LIKE SET STANDARDIZED PRACTICE TO, BECAUSE I'M, I, I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE'VE APPROVED THE OTHER ITEMS FOR THIS, IT SAYS LIKE NOT TO EXCEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
SO THEM EXCEEDING THAT CERTAIN AMOUNT IS ON THEM.
I AGREED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IT IS, THEY WERE AWARE OF THE AMOUNT THEY PROVIDED THE $78,000 TO US AS THE AMOUNT THEMSELVES.
THAT SAID, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WILL NOT DELIVER THE FINAL REPORT WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL MONEY.
'CAUSE THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO SO.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT DOES THEIR CONTRACT SAY? WHAT DID WE AGREE TO THE CONTRACT PROVIDED THE $78,000, UM, AS THEIR ANTICIPATED COST.
I THINK THERE IS SOME ARGUMENT BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY USE IN THEIR CONTRACT THAT, UM, IS DIFFERENT THAN THE LANGUAGE THAT I GENERALLY USE WHEN I WRITE THESE CONTRACTS.
THAT SUGGESTS THAT PERHAPS IF THEY GO A LITTLE BIT OVER, WE'D FIGURE IT OUT A LITTLE BIT OVER IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN $52,000 DOUBLE.
LITERALLY DOUBLE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WE EXPECTED.
YOU SAID THEY, IT WAS ACTUALLY MORE, BUT THEY SAID THEY WOULD, THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD HOLD IT $150,000 EVEN IF IT WENT A LITTLE OVER COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THAT THE WRITTEN AND REPORT AND PRESENTATION, UM, IN PUBLIC, UH, TO THE COUNCIL WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
AND THAT WAS THAT THAT MAY, THAT'S PROBABLY FAIR.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS, I DON'T THINK THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT REQUIRED A WRITTEN REPORT.
IT DID REQUIRE THE FULL INVESTIGATION AND THEN IT WAS GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE WANTED THE REPORT OR NOT.
AND THE FULL INVESTIGATION THAT THEY DID, THEY, UM, TALKED TO MORE PEOPLE THAN THEY HAD ANTICIPATED THEY WERE GOING TO BE TALKING TO.
THEY FOLLOWED THE RABBIT TRAILS KIND OF.
'CAUSE I THINK, I THINK THEY TALKED TO LESS THAN THEY ANTICIPATED.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
YEAH, WE FIND OUT PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T RESPOND.
AND THEN I KNOW THAT THERE WERE A FEW PEOPLE THAT GOT ADDED BECAUSE WHENEVER THEY INTERVIEWED PEOPLE, THEY ASKED, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU THINK I SHOULD? LIKE, THERE'S LIKE OR FIVE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T RESPOND.
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THAT, THAT WOULD GIVES US A KIND OF A CUSHIONSO IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN LOOK AT THE INVOICE? CAN WE LIKE TABLE THIS UNTIL NEXT? SO ONE ISSUE WE HAVE IS THE NEXT MEETING IS THE LAST MEETING.
WE CAN APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.
SO ONE OF OUR THOUGHTS WAS TO TRY TO GET IT THROUGH.
I I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS REPORT PRESENTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S BEEN DONE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW.
AND, AND, UM, THEY DID MAKE IT CLEAR IN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT THERE WOULD BE AN EXTRA CHARGE FOR THAT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S HAD A WELL, YOU CAN DO A MOTION AND THEN A SECOND AND THIS'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, UH, APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 22 TO, UM, ENHANCE THE CONTRACT UP TO $150,000 TO NOT EXCEED $150,000 FOR, UH, P AND T SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS A SECOND BY MYSELF.
ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION COUNT.
MAY I PROM TO BS? SO IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, THIS WILL BE REQUIRED TO FULL TO COMPLETE THE INVESTIGATION AND DELIVER A FINAL REPORT.
WILL IT ALSO BE, UH, BROUGHT TO ON AS AN AGENDA ITEM? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE DIRECTION TO DO THAT.
THE REPORT WILL BE PROVIDED TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE AN AGENDA ITEM.
UM, WE CAN WORK TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL COST FOR THAT.
I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS PART, THAT WAS A PART.
I AM STARTING TO GET LIKE A LITTLE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE I REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID.
YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, THIS WAS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE TO ALL OF US.
UM, AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS IS CORRECT.
WHEN, UH, SHE STATED THAT THEY HAD SAID, LISTEN, THIS REPORT AND PRESENTATION, UM, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT INITIALLY BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE IF Y'ALL WANTED IT OR IF Y'ALL JUST WANTED THE FINDINGS.
UM, AND SO WE KNEW THAT IT WAS GONNA COST EXTRA TO GET THE REPORT AND PRESENTATION.
UM, HOWEVER, IT WASN'T AT THIS $52,000 MARK.
UM, AND THEY DID SAY IT WOULD INCLUDE THE REPORT AND PRESENTATION.
WE MADE THAT VERY, VERY CLEAR.
AND COUNCIL DIRECTION WILL MAKE SURE THAT A REPORT AND A PUBLIC PRESENTATION ARE INCLUDED FOR $50,000 BEFORE IT'S SIGNED AND PROPERLY.
AND THAT COULD BE THE CONDITION OF YOUR APPROVAL? YES.
DO YOU WANNA AMEND THE MOTION TO INCLUDE THE CONDITION THAT THIS INCLUDE A FINAL REPORT AND A PUBLIC PRESENTATION? UH, SO AMENDED.
WE HAVE AMENDMENT BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ADA.
WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST.
ALL IN FAVOR FOR THE AMENDMENTS? AYE.
AND NOW WE HAVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
A AND, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[23) Consider approval of a Resolution authorizing an amendment to the engagement letter with Lloyd Gosselink Rochelle & Townsend, P.C. for legal services related to PUC Docket No. 58988 to increase approved expenditures by $100,000.00 for a total amount not to exceed $300,000.00. This item will require a budget amendment.]
HAVE AGENDA ITEM 23.CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN AMENDMENT TO THE ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH LORD SLINK, ROCHELLE AND TOWNSEND.
UH, PC FOR LEGAL SERVICES RELATED TO PUC DOCKET NUMBER 5 8 9 8 8 TO INCREASE APPROVED EXPENDITURES BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 300,000.
THIS ITEM WILL REQUIRE A BUDGET AMENDMENT ITEM PRESENTER.
AMY ALQUAN RE THANK YOU MAYOR COUNSEL, AMY ALCORN, REED CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
UH, THIS ITEM IS FOR OUR CONTRACT WITH LLOYD GOLINK.
UH, LLOYD GOLINK REPRESENTS THE CITY ON OUR PUC DOCKET NUMBER 5 8 9 8 8.
UM, THAT DOCKET, AS YOU KNOW, HAS HAD SOME, WE'VE HAD SOME MOVEMENT IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET TO A RESOLUTION.
WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WILL BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO GET THERE.
IF IT'S NOT, WE WOULD OF COURSE COME BACK.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $300,000.
AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THIS IS GONNA COME OUTTA WATER WASTEWATER FUND.
IT'S SPLIT 50 50 WATERWAY OF WATER? YES, MA'AM.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE CURRENT DATE FOR THE MEDIATION IS SCHEDULED FOR? SO THE MEDIATION WAS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 23RD.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE RECENTLY RECEIVED AN ABATEMENT OF THE PROCESS AGREED TO BY ALL PARTIES TO ENTER INTO SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
SO IF WE'RE POSSIBLY ENTERING INTO SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS, THAT COULD TAKE PLACE BY WHEN? UM, SO IT'S GONNA, IT'S SEPARATE.
THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE MM-HMM
SO THEY'RE KIND OF ON SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TRACKS.
I EXPECT THAT THE SIX CREEKS ONE, UM, INTERIM CITY MANAGER, IF YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS EXPECTED TO COME BACK ON THE NEXT MEETING SEPTEMBER 15TH.
THE OTHER ONE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DISCUSSING WITH THEIR ATTORNEY.
'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE AN ATTORNEY.
I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE AND I NEED TO CONFIRM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEDIATION WAS IN FACT CANCELED AS PART OF THE ABATEMENT.
WE WERE CHECKING ON THAT YESTERDAY.
AND THEN, UM, I KNOW WE PREVIOUSLY HAD APPROVED AN EXTRA BIT OF MONEY, UM, AT
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A PREVIOUS MEETING.CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THAT PAID US UP THROUGH AS FAR AS IF THERE WAS A DATE OR A PROCESS? SO THE, THE PREVIOUS AMOUNT APPROVED WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THAT DID GET US TO WRITE ABOUT CURRENT, BUT THEY ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO OUTTA MONEY AT THIS POINT.
THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAD PROPOSED WAS MORE, AND THAT WAS TO TRY TO GET US THROUGH NOVEMBER.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE IT A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT SLOWER AT A TIME NOW BECAUSE WE'RE HOPING TO GET TO A RESOLUTION FASTER.
AND THEN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IN THE STAFF MEMO, UM, IT SAYS FOR WORK REQUIRED, THE EXTRA A HUNDRED THOUSAND RIGHT NOW ON THE AGENDA IS FOR WORK REQUIRED THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH, 2026.
BUT IN YOUR SLIDE SHOW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, IT JUST SAID TO CONTINUE REPRESENTING THROUGH THE ANTICIPATED MEDIATION DATE.
CAN YOU CLARIFY THE, THE HOPE IS THAT IT WILL MAKE IT THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH.
IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON HOW MUCH WORK HAS TO BE DONE.
SO IF WE CANNOT SETTLE, THEN WE HAVE TO START PREPARING TESTIMONY AND DEALING WITH DISCOVERY.
AND SO THAT MAY DRIVE THE COST UP ON OUR CURRENT TRAJECTORY.
WE DO HOPE THAT THAT'LL GET US THROUGH NOVEMBER.
AND SHOULD WE FINISH THE CASE IN OCTOBER, WE GET MONEY BACK? CORRECT.
WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T USE IT, WE DON'T SPEND IT.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, ALL RIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MEDINA.
[24) Consider approval of a Resolution directing the Interim City Manager to proceed with developing a proposed Bond 2028 capital improvement program and establishing the timeline and process to be followed.]
24, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO PROCEED WITH DEVELOPING A PROPOSED BOND 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND ESTABLISHING THE TIMELINE AND PROCESS TO BE FOLLOWED.ITEM PRESENTER, AMY ALQUAN REED.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AMY ALQUAN, REED CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE RECORD.
I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ITEM.
WE ARE DISCUSSING THE PROCESS THROUGH WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL CAN REVIEW PROPOSED PROJECTS FOR BOND 2028 DEVELOPMENT.
I DO WANNA BE CLEAR THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING THE PROCESS IN THIS ITEM, AND THAT I HAVE NOT LISTED ANY PROPOSED PROJECTS IN HERE FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO OUR GOAL HERE IS TO PREPARE FOR THE LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF THE CITY.
AND THE INTERIM CITY, CITY MANAGER HAS STARTED EVALUATING POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN A BOND IN 2028.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SEEKING INPUT FROM CITY COUNCIL ON THE CREATION OF A TIMELINE AND A PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT ALL DISCUSSIONS ARE TRANSPARENT AND THAT PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE TERMINATION, WHICH PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED.
THE RESOLUTION WOULD ADOPT A PROPOSED PROCESS AND TIMELINE FOR THE PREPARATION OF BOND 2028.
THIS SLIDE'S A LITTLE BIT BUSY, BUT IT'S KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT STARTS WITH APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION TODAY.
AND IT ENDS WITH BOTTLE 2028 ELECTION, NOVEMBER 7TH, 2028.
THINGS THAT ARE IN HERE THAT ARE OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE CREATION OF A BOND TASK FORCE OR BOND COMMITTEE, WHICHEVER WAY WE WANT TO REFER TO IT.
UM, AND THEN MULTIPLE MILESTONES FOR FINANCE TO REPORT ON OUR DEBT CAPACITY AND IMPLICATIONS OF ANY PROPOSED BOND.
WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TIME BUILT IN HERE FOR BOTH REVIEW BY THE BOND COMMITTEE AND BY STAFF OF A NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR PROJECTS THAT WE NEED AND TO BRING THEM BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION.
SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS INCLUDED HERE.
UM, THE RESOLUTION AS PROPOSED USE USES BOTH THE TERMS BOND COMMITTEE AND BOND ELECTION APPROVAL TASK FORCE.
THE CITY CODE HAS DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AND PROCEDURES FOR COMMITTEE A TASK FORCE.
TYPICALLY IN THE HISTORY OF KYLE, A TASK FORCE HAS BEEN MADE UP OF COUNCIL MEMBERS LESS THAN A MAJORITY.
AND A COMMITTEE IS USUALLY ON A ONE YEAR ASSIGNMENT, KIND OF AS AN AD HOC TO PROVIDE INFORMATION BACK TO THE CITY.
ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO CREATE LIKE A BOND BOARD, HOWEVER, THOSE ARE USUALLY STANDING.
AND SO THEN WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT BOARD WOULD REMAIN AFTER THE END OF THE CREATION OF THE BOND IN 2028, UH, PROGRAM.
THE OTHER QUESTIONS WE HAVE ARE LIKE, HOW MANY MEMBERS DO YOU WANNA APPOINT? THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION RECOMMENDS A SEVEN, SEVEN MEMBER BODY WHERE THE MEMBERS ARE NOMINATED BY EACH, EACH MEMBER IS NOMINATED BY THE MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THEY'RE ALL CONFIRMED BY THE MAJORITY VOTE OF CITY COUNCIL.
I BASE THIS THE WAY WE DID THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION BECAUSE THAT WORKED REALLY WELL.
AND SO I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY, GOOD PLACE TO START IN CONSIDERING HOW TO CREATE THE BOND COMMITTEE.
AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT BLESS YOU, COUNSEL HAS ANY REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS THAT THEY WANT TO PROPOSE FOR THE MEMBERS.
THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION ONLY REQUIRES THAT THEY BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND COMPLY WITH OUR GENERAL BOARD AND COMMISSION REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN ANY OTHER CHANGES TO THE PROCESS OF THE TIMELINE THE COUNCIL WANTS TO INCLUDE.
AND THEN THE OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE IT AS PRESENTED AT AMENDMENTS OR TO DENY IT.
I'M GONNA PUT THE TIMELINE BACK UP.
UM, I LIVED THROUGH THE 2022 ROAD BOND, WHICH GOT US TO WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CONFUSION, MISUNDERSTANDINGS, UM, TO A POINT, PROBABLY SOME MISINFORMATION.
AND IT ALL STEMS FROM A POOR BOND THAT WAS, I MEAN, IT WAS POORLY DRAFTED AND WE LITERALLY APPROVED IT IN AUGUST AND IN NOVEMBER IT WAS ON, ON THE BALLOT.
SO I THINK GIVING RESIDENTS MORE TIME, MORE CLARITY, UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE MAY
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BE NEEDING TO ASK FOR MONEY FOR ROADS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY, THAT WE INCLUDED IN PREVIOUS BONDS.UM, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REBUILD THAT TRUST WITH THE RESIDENTS.
AND SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT MAYOR PROAM.
VERY IMPORTANT DATES THAT ALL THE ENTIRE DICE NEEDS TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO IS THE JANUARY OR 27TH THROUGH THE JULY.
BECAUSE BETWEEN THAT TIME PERIOD IS WHEN WE'RE GONNA NEED TO BE SELECTING OUR CITY MANAGER.
SO, SO IT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT CREATION OF THE BOND TASK, INCLUDING THE FINANCIAL REPORTS.
THIS ON THE DEBT CAPACITY THAT, UM, WHOEVER WE SELECT, UH, IS VERY AWARE OF HOW THEY COULD BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS BOND PACKAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING FORWARD.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE VERY CRITICAL WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THAT.
BUT, UH, YES, I'M GLAD WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN.
UH, THE TAX RATES, THE ASSESSMENT AND, AND THE, UM, THE PACKAGE ITSELF AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MARKETED IN, IN A SENSE, THE EDUCATION BEHIND IT.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT MORE WORK AHEAD, BUT, UH, IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVENTUALLY WE, WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO UNFORTUNATELY DO IN YEARS TO COME.
BUT IT'S, IT'S COMING UP FAST, BUT, UM, IT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF THOSE TIMELINES ON THERE.
ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCIL MEMBER ZA? UM, OR DID, OH, SORRY.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT I PREFER, INSTEAD OF THE TASK FORCE A COMMITTEE, UM, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE FOR THESE TO BE LIKE ON PUBLIC RECORD AND RECORDED AND HAVE THEIR AGENDA AND, AND MINUTES.
UM, I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UM, SO I, I WOULD PREFER THE COMMITTEE.
UM, AS FAR AS THE LIKE MEMBER APPOINTMENT, UM, I ACTUALLY REALLY ENJOYED THE, UH, AUDIT, WHAT IS IT? FINANCE, AUDIT, BUDGET.
THE, THE COMMITTEE AND THE WAY IN WHICH IT WAS DONE, UM, IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, UM, HAD TO HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENTING THEM.
AND IT WAS KIND OF OPEN TO ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO APPLY.
UM, AND AT THAT TIME FOR THAT COMMITTEE WE DID, UH, SET FORTH, UM, LIKE REQUIREMENTS ON, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD PREFER IF YOU HAD THIS OR THIS OR THIS.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF I WANT TO SET SUCH A STANDARD FOR, UH, THIS COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE CERTAIN, LIKE, QUALIFICATIONS ONE SHOULD HAVE.
I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL OR USEFUL.
UM, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE BOND COMMITTEE DOES, LIKE ULTIMATELY I FEEL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOST RESPONSIBLE FOR SEND FOR, FOR HELPING US DETERMINE THE SCOPE AND WHAT PROJECTS ARE MOST IMPORTANT.
AND SO I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, FROM BEING ABLE TO SPEAK JUST BECAUSE THEY LACK SOME SORT OF LIKE, QUALIFICATIONS.
UM, AND SO I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'M SEEING IT.
UM, I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK.
ONE THOUGHT, I THINK BEING TIRED OF SITTING IN TRAFFIC IS A GOOD ENOUGH QUALIFICATION FOR ME.
UH, ONE THOUGHT I HAD MAYOR COUNCIL IS IF WE WANT TO DECIDE ON WHETHER IT'S A COMMITTEE OR A TASK FORCE FOR PURPOSES OF THIS RESOLUTION, AND WE WANNA DECIDE ON MAYBE HOW MANY MEMBERS AND HOW THEY'RE APPOINTED, WE COULD HOLD OFF ON THE QUALIFICATIONS.
WE'RE GONNA BRING THIS BACK IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY.
SO WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THEN IF THAT'S BETTER FOR COUNSEL.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO FORM A BOND COMMITTEE.
I GOT A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY TO MAKE THIS A BOND COMMITTEE.
HOW MANY, HOW MANY MEMBERS DO WE WANNA APPOINT? DO WE WANT SEVEN? ONE FOR EACH? SEVEN SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING EVEN DOUBLE.
LIKE, IS THAT BAD? I FEEL LIKE THAT'S TOO MANY.
I THINK IT HAS TO BE AN ODD NUMBER TOO, JUST IN CASE THERE'S A SPLIT.
WELL, THERE'S THREE DISTRICTS.
ONE OF THE, RIGHT, THERE'S, HMM.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR, WELL, QUESTION, QUESTION.
WELL, I GUESS WE CAN SECOND IT.
WELL, UNLESS YOU WANNA AMEND THE NUMBER POTENTIALLY.
ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL WAIT FOR MY MOTION.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I'M TRYING TO THINK OF IS THEN IS HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT FIGURING OUT WHO GETS TO CHOOSE THOSE OTHER TWO, RIGHT? LIKE, DO WE WANT, BECAUSE IF WE ONLY HAVE THREE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS, THAT'S NOT EVEN ENOUGH FOR EACH OF THEM TO REQUIRE TWO PEOPLE.
AND SO TECHNICALLY THE ANYBODY, LIKE OUTSIDE OF THAT, LIKE WOULD THEY WOULD ALL HAVE COME FROM LIKE CITYWIDE? CAN WE JUST DO THREE, THREE FROM EACH DISTRICTS? YOU MAY HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING THREE FROM EACH.
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WE NEED ONE FROM EACH.BUT I THINK THAT'S WHY THE NINE I'M LIKE, IT, IT'S OFF.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SURE IT'S EITHER WE CAN GO UP ONE SO THAT WAY, BUT THEN EVERYBODY WHO'S CITYWIDE DOESN'T NECESSARILY GET THE EQUAL REPRESENTATION BECAUSE OF THAT.
BECAUSE THEY'LL BE OUTNUMBERED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.
SO I THINK SEVEN, IF I'M THINKING OF TRYING TO KEEP IT AS EQUITABLE AS POSSIBLE, THAT'S WHERE I LAND AT IS WITH SEVEN, UNLESS YOU DOUBLE EVERYBODY'S, WHICH IS I THINK THE IDEA THAT THE MAYOR HAD.
UM, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THERE'S NO WAY TO KEEP IT, UH, THAT EQUITABLE.
I GUESS IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT LARGE OF A NUMBER, UH, ATTENDING MEETINGS.
UM, AND IF IT'S A COMMITTEE, WOULD WE APPOINT BY USING THE, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, BOARD PROCESS ON THAT END VERSUS, UH, APPOINTMENT? WE'D HAVE TO PROBABLY DECIDE IF WE'RE GONNA BE DOING APPOINTMENTS OR BY THE BOARD COMMISSION APPLICATION PROCESS.
UH, I JUST THINK IF WE HAVE MORE THAN SEVEN, IF WE COULD HAVE PEOPLE, UM, UH, MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETINGS AND SO FORTH, AND IF THERE'S IMPORTANT TYPES OF VOTES OR, OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
'CAUSE I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE WHEN THEY WOULD BE MEETING.
AND 20, 20 EIGHT'S GONNA BE A HUGE ELECTION YEAR AS WELL AND VERY BUSY YEAR.
UM, THAT'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND, AND ALL A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF.
SO I JUST WANT, I GUESS WANT US TO CONSIDER IF WE GO WITH NINE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MIGHT GET ENOUGH.
WE MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE DROP OUT.
BUT SHOULD WE STICK WITH A SEVEN MEMBER, UH, APPOINTMENT AS FAR AS DOING IT THROUGH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROCESS? PART OF WOULD BE SAFE.
THIS PART OF THIS QUESTION, MAYOR PRO TEM IS BOTH HOW MANY AND HOW DO YOU WANT TO APPOINT THEM? SO IF WE WANT EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY, OR IF WE WANNA DO OUR STANDARD BOARD AND COMMISSIONS PROCESS, AND OF COURSE WE'LL BRING BACK WHERE, PUT WHAT, PUT THAT ON THE ROTATION LIST WHEN WE, UM, COME BACK IN JANUARY.
AND THEY WOULD HAVE IT LIKE THE ROUND TABLE, LIKE WE NORMALLY HAVE OUR BUDGET MEETINGS.
WOULD IT BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT PEREZ, YOU THINK? OR, OR, I LIKE THE ROUND TABLE.
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DO THE COMMITTEES.
'CAUSE IT FEELS MORE LIKE A GROUP.
WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY SET IT UP LIKE THAT WHERE IT'S RECORDED.
THAT WAY YOU COULD HAVE A DECIDING VOTE ON SCHEMATICS AND DESIGNS OR JUST CONVERSATIONS.
THAT WAS MY THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK COUNCIL MEMBERS?
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I, I DEFINITELY WANT FOR EACH SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICT TO HAVE THAT REPRESENTATION.
UM, SO I GUESS DEPENDING ON HOW IT IS THAT WE BUILD OUT THE LIKE APPOINTMENT PROCESS, EITHER WE APPOINT THEM OR IF WE GO THROUGH OUR REGULAR, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROCESS, UH, THOSE INDIVIDUALS COULD BE DECIDED UPON, YOU KNOW, BASED ON LIKE WHOEVER IS IN THAT ROTATING SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT.
UH, BUT I JUST WANTED, LIKE I SAID, WHAT I'M TRYING TO THINK OF IS HOW DO I MAKE SURE THAT IT'S EQUITABLE BETWEEN SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS AND THEN CITYWIDE SEATS.
YOU COULD HAVE THE CITYWIDE, YOU KNOW, SEATS, DICE, AND THEN MAYBE A SEAT FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THEN ALSO A BUSINESS, BLESS YOU.
SINCE IT WOULD, UH, AFFECT THEM AS WELL.
HOW WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO WHERE WE WOULD GET FEEDBACK FROM THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS POINT OF VIEW.
BECAUSE THE BUSES, THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, OF THAT NATURE OR, UM, I WOULD LIKE IF WE DO THAT, THAT WHOEVER THEY APPOINT BE A, A RESIDENT OF CITY OF KYLE, A TAXPAYER.
THAT WAY THEY, OR SOMEBODY THAT WORKS FOR TRANSPORTATION TOO.
I MEAN THE, I'M JUST THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
MAYBE A BUSINESS, SOMEBODY OF A BUSINESS OWNER TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS HOW IT AFFECTS COMMERCE IN A WAY WITH HOW, HOW WE VIEW TRAFFIC FLOW AND, AND FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE VERSUS RESIDENTIAL.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE RESIDENT, I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA BE RESIDENTS.
THEY'RE GONNA SAY, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC SUCKS, YOU KNOW, STINKS.
UM, BUT FROM MAYBE DIFFERENT ANGLES, WE COULD HAVE A SEAT.
HAVE EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE IN THE SENSE, LIKE WE ALWAYS SAID, HAVE EVERYBODY HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE FROM DIFFERENT, UH, DEMOGRAPHICS AS FAR AS BUSINESS, THE SCHOOLS, UH, PUBLIC, UH, AND MAYBE OTHER PROFESSIONS.
I ACTUALLY REALLY, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK TO ALLOW MAYBE LIKE SEVEN AND THEN THREE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHAT AREAS OF EXPERTISE.
SO I THINK WE'VE SAID LIKE SCHOOL DISTRICT REPRESENTATION, UM, BUT THAT BEING LIKE A RESIDENT, UM, WHO'S GIVING THE PERSPECTIVE OF THAT, UM, UH, TRANSPORTATION.
SOMEONE WHO IS A RESIDENT MAYBE WHO HAS SOME SORT OF BACKGROUND IN LIKE
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ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS, BUILDINGS, URBAN PLANNING, UH, SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.UM, THE OTHER IDEA THAT I WAS THINKING OF, IF WE WANTED TO REACH 10, UM, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA REACH 10, UM, WOULD BE HAVE, UH, AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT OF IT.
UM, SO SOMEONE WHO, A, A RESIDENT WHO'S WELL INFORMED, WHO CAN HELP GUIDE US THROUGH THOSE IMPACTS OR CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL.
LIKE WHEN WE HAD OUR ROAD BOND, UM, MEET AND GREETS AT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE HAYES ISD BUS DRIVER SHOW UP AND GAVE THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT HOW THE BUS DRIVER, HOW IT'S THE BUS ROUTES WOULD AFFECT THEIR KIDS.
AND WHEN THEY FOUND OUT WE WERE HAVING IT OVER HERE, WE HAD A LOT OF THE BUS DRIVERS AND THEIR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT SHOW UP TO GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK ON, ON, YEAH.
I WOULD SAY INSTEAD A RESIDENT FROM THE, THE HAY ISD GET A BUS DRIVER OR THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
'CAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE WITH THE, WITH THE BUSES.
JUST SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE COULD THROW OUT.
BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
I THINK WE WANNA DO 10, RIGHT? ONE FROM EACH AND THEN THREE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE CAN DISCUSS MM-HMM.
IN THE, I THINK THAT, WELL, WE DON'T NEED A DECIDING VOTE FOR LIKE THIS COMMITTEE.
RIGHT? LIKE, THAT'S NOT A THING THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.
SO IF, IF 10, WELL, WOULD THE COMMITTEE HAVE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING? AND SO 10 IS EVEN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I FEEL LIKE FROM A BOND PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE WHEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL, IF IT'S THAT CLOSE, DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT RECOMMENDATION? OR DO YOU WANT ONE THAT A BROAD SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? LIKE IF IT NEEDS THE DECIDING VOTE TO DECIDE IF THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT THAT PROJECT? THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.
JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT.
SO KIND OF LIKE ALWAYS REQUIRE LIKE A SUPER MAJORITY IN THAT CASE, RIGHT? IT WOULD REQUIRE, SAY, SAY YOU PUT 10 ON AND IT REQUIRES SIX BEFORE IT COULD COME TO COUNCIL.
THE SUPER MAJORITY KIND OF IDEA.
WE'RE GONNA SAY ONE REPRESENTING EACH COUNCIL PLACE TO BE.
WE DETERMINE HOW TO APPOINT THAT LATER.
AND THREE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
I CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO RESOLUTION IF I CAN JUST GET A VOTE TO APPROVE THE 10.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 10 MEMBERS TO THE BOND COMMITTEE.
I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA.
AND THEN BECAUSE I'M SUPER ANNOYING, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE OF THE RESOLUTION WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU JUST VOTED ON? ALL RIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 24 AND INCLUDE THE BOND COMMITTEE.
THE BOND COMMITTEE, AND 10 MEMBERS
GET A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA.
[26) (Tabled 8/18/2026) Direct staff to investigate options for regulation of short term rentals and suggestion for ordinance changes.]
26, DIRECT STAFF TO INVESTIGATE OPTIONS FOR REGULATION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS AND SUGGESTIONS FOR ORDINANCE CHANGES.ITEM PRESENTER LAURA LEE HARRIS AND MARK MCKINNEY.
SO WE HAD REQUESTED THAT THEY BRING US SOME IDEAS BACK.
SO ARE YOU GONNA BE DOING THAT FOR US? UH, I WASN'T PREPARED TO BRING IDEAS BACK TO YOU.
UM, I WAS, I THOUGHT WE WERE TABLING IT TO GET DIRECTION, BUT I HAVE LOTS OF THEM.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA HEAR 'EM
I MEAN, I THINK FOR ME IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE, UM, WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS BEFORE I, I GET INTO ANY OF THAT, BUT I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND GLAD TO ANSWER.
WHEN I MADE THAT MOTION, UM, TO LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, WE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVE NO ORDINANCES RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE DO NOT HAVE THEM DEFINED IN OUR ZONING CODE.
UM, I DO BELIEVE, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, COUNCIL ADOPTED A OR AN APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT FOR ONE OF THE, UM, UH, HOSTING COMPANIES.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS VRBO OR AIRBNB, UM, THAT THEY WOULD COLLECT AND PAY HOT TAX FOR US.
SO THERE IS, THERE IS THAT CONTRACT THERE, BUT FORMALLY WE HAVE NO, UM, NO DEFINITIONS FOR IT IN OUR ZONING CODE.
UM, WE DON'T ADDRESS IT IN OUR PARKING.
UM, FROM, FROM MY STANDPOINT, UM, I I LOOK AT IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN, THAN MAYBE THERE'S SOME PRIOR DIRECTORS HERE.
I LOOK AT IT AS IF IT'S NOT IN THE, IN THE ZONING CODE, IT IS, IT IS NOT ALLOWED USE.
UM, IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND SAY, HEY, MR. LUTZ, TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO DO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UM, IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO FIND THE CLOSEST USE IN OUR CURRENT DEFINITION, UM, THAT WOULD MATCH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOOK AT.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, I WOULD DEFINE THAT AS A, AS A SOME TYPE OF HOTEL.
UM, THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR TRANSIENT HOUSING, UM, THEIR CONTRACT'S LESS THAN 30 DAYS, THEY PROVIDE HOT TAX.
UM, HAVING SAID ALL THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY OWN PERSONAL, HOW, HOW I'M DOING THIS FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT.
IF THERE'S OTHER DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT AND KIND
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OF KNOW WHAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT OR WHAT Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING AS PART OF ANY REGULATIONS.I DO KNOW THE PROBLEM IS RIGHT NOW THAT, UM, THESE ARE PRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE WILL BE MORE, UM, AS THOSE GET MORE MORE EXPENSIVE IN THE AUSTIN AREA, THERE'RE MOVING TO KYLE BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SHORT DRIVE BETWEEN THOSE, UH, AND THE HILL COUNTRY.
UM, VARIOUS TOURIST ITEMS, UH, WHICH HAVE BEEN MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT.
NOW ASK WIMBERLEY,
UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, COMPREHENSIVE ORDINANCES, WHEREVER THOSE FIT IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE OR SEPARATE, UH, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS, THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY COLLECTING, UM, HOTEL AND OCCUPANCY TAXES ON THOSE, UH, AS THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
UM, AND THAT THERE'S SOME WAY OF MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON IN THOSE RENTALS.
AUSTIN IS, OF COURSE, HAD SOME PRETTY STRONG RESTRICTIONS NOW ON THOSE.
I, I GUESS FOR ME, UM, BEFORE I BRING SOMETHING FORWARD TO YOU, IS, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU WOULD ARE LOOKING TO REGULATE, UM, TO ALLOW IT AND REGULATE IT OR TO PROHIBIT IT AND REGULATE IT? THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, MY, MY STANDPOINT ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS IT'S NEVER ABOUT THE, THE WRONG USE, UM, IN THE WRONG PLACE, OR IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE RIGHT USE IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
UM, DO I THINK IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT NEAR A SCHOOL IS APPROPRIATE? NO.
UM, UH, AREAS THAT MAY BE ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL THAT COULD TRANSITION OR WALKABLE TO, TO DOWNTOWN OR, OR WALMART OR HEB.
OR IF IT'S A HOME THAT'S IN A ZONING DISTRICT, YES.
THAT, THAT'S PERFECTLY ALLOWED.
BUT AGAIN, UH, MY PERSPECTIVE FROM, FROM A LOT OF YEARS DEALING WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS, IS THEY ARE HOTELS.
WE CAN CALL THEM WHATEVER WE WANT.
UM, WE CAN DEFINE THEM HOWEVER WE WANT.
THE STATE HAS MADE SOME LAWS, UM, ON WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THOSE.
UM, BUT SOME OF THOSE ARE VERY STRICTLY INTERPRETED TO KIND OF COUNTY REGS AND HOW THEY DEFINE THEM IN THEIR SUBDIVISION, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, UM, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS APPLY TO WHAT CITIES CAN DO.
UM, SO I JUST NEED SOME DIRECTION OR, OR IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO, TO OPEN UP YOU WANT TO SEE MORE OF? UM, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE A LOT OF, BUT WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY? UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT FOR A CITY LIKE US, UH, WE ARE NOT A BIG TOURISM COMMUNITY.
UM, UM, WE PROBABLY GET, UM, A LOT OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF YEAR GRADUATIONS.
UM, ESPECIALLY TEXAS STATE, UT SOME OF THE HOTELS FILLED UP.
UM, MAYBE THROUGH SOME OF OUR FESTIVALS, WE MIGHT GET A FEW DEPENDING ON HOW OUR HOTELS ARE.
UM, BUT IF WE ARE TO REGULATE THIS, UM, IT WILL MEAN MOST LIKELY ADDITIONAL STAFF, ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE, UM, THESE THINGS TO, TO BE PERMITTED AND REGULATED AND DONE THE PROPER WAY.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT FOR, FOR A CITY TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, JUST KIND OF THROWING THOSE ON THE TABLE TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT Y'ALL WANT FROM ME AND WHATEVER THAT IS.
WE'LL BRING THAT BACK, UM, PRETTY SOON.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, UH, BECAUSE I GUESS THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME, AND, AND THIS IS JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE OF HOW SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE LIKE REGULATED, IS LIKE REGISTRY AND FEES.
UM, AND SO LIKE THOSE ARE LIKE THE FIRST TWO THINGS THAT COME TO MY MIND.
AND I DO KNOW THAT IT REQUIRES LIKE, STAFF TIME, SOFTWARE BUILDING IT OUT, LIKE MAKING, LIKE BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THAT.
UM, SO I KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A COST ASSOCIATED TO THAT, WHETHER THAT'S INDIRECT OR DIRECT COSTS.
UM, I THINK THE, I I JUST WANNA GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF PERSPECTIVE ON THE OPPOSITE END, UM, IN THAT, LIKE, I DO HAVE FRIENDS AND I KNOW OF INDIVIDUALS WHO UTILIZE AIRBNBS BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT QUALIFY FOR AN APARTMENT BECAUSE AIRBNBS, UH, CAN BE LIKE SHARED ROOMS WITHIN A HOUSE.
IT'S OCCUPIED BY THE HOMEOWNER AND IT'S A LOT EASIER FOR INDIVIDUALS TO SOMETIMES RENT OUT THOSE, UH, ROOMS LIKE INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME BACKGROUND CHECK, CREDIT CHECK AND WHATNOT THAT, UH, RENTAL COMPANIES DO.
AND THEY ALSO GET STRONGER TENANT PROTECTIONS, QUOTE UNQUOTE, THROUGH AIRBNB.
AND THE CITY OF KYLE LACKS STRONG TENANT PROTECTIONS.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO IMMEDIATELY WRITE OFF, UH, THE USE OF AIRBNB'S IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE IN SOME INSTANCES THIS IS ALL THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN OBTAIN AS FAR AS HOUSING GOES.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT PERSPECTIVE OUT THERE AS WELL.
UM, I THINK MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, IF, IF
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WE DECIDE TO BRING THIS BACK, ONE THING THAT I WOULD BE CURIOUS ABOUT IS, DO WE HAVE ANY EXAMPLES IN ANY OTHER CITIES, UH, WHERE THEY KIND OF CAP IT, LIKE, BASED ON WHAT THEIR HOUSING MARKET LOOKS LIKE, AND BASED ON LIKE THE NUMBER OF HOUSES OR NUMBER OF ROOFS TO GO UP, UH, WE SAY, HEY, WE ONLY ALLOW FOR THIS NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS BASED ON THESE METRICS.ONCE WE HIT THAT NUMBER, SORRY, WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANYMORE WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, I, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK INTO, UH, SEVERAL FORMS OF THAT.
UM, MOST CITIES DO IT DIFFERENTLY.
I'VE SEEN CITIES THAT DO JUST A HARD CAP, THEY JUST PICK A NUMBER WHETHER THEIR POPULATION GOES UP, THAT'S IT.
THAT'S ALL YOU GET FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE.
UH, I'VE SEEN SOME THAT DO IT AS A NO MORE THAN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.
I'VE SEEN SOME THAT, THAT DO IT WITH, UH, IT'S KIND OF FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE ANOTHER ONE WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF ANOTHER ONE.
UM, I, I THINK ULTIMATELY IT'LL KIND OF DEPEND ON WHICH ONE I RECOMMEND WILL BE BASED ON WHAT YOUR KIND OF DIRECTION IS.
UM, HOW DO YOU WANT TO GO WITH IT? AND THEN KIND OF UNDERSTANDING OUR UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THE CITY.
UH, I DON'T LIKE EVER BLOCKING OR JUST COPY AND PASTING OTHER CITY STUFF.
'CAUSE IT, IT, THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
UM, MAYOR COUNSEL, I THINK, UM, IF WE COULD COME BACK WITH A PRESENTATION FOR YOU WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY THOSE CITIES, WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, HOW IT'S WORKING, AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION, UM, BRING THAT BACK TO YOU SO THAT WAY YOU COULD FULLY CONSIDER, UM, THE IMPACT OF WHATEVER DECISION YOU DECIDE TO MAKE.
BUT WE COULD BRING YOU ALL SORTS OF OPTIONS AND LET YOU WEIGH IN ON WHAT YOU WANT.
UH, FOR KYLE, THAT WOULD WORK FOR ME.
UM, IF WE DO HAVE, UM, IN OUR SINGLE FAMILY DEFINITION, I THINK THAT IT DOES INCLUDE MULTIPLE OCCUPANTS IN UNDER A ONE ROOF, SOME LIMIT, BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S ALLOWED.
WELL HOW DO WE, OKAY, SO MY QUESTION IS GONNA BE HOW DO WE ENFORCE THIS MM-HMM
AND DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT? UM, YOU'D HAVE TO DEFINE PROBLEM.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF COMPLAINTS, UM, THAT MY OFFICE HAS JUST RECEIVED A COUPLE OF CALLS.
UM, I'M AWARE OF A COUPLE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BROUGHT TO ME.
UM, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT, UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IT'S, IT'S AN ONGOING THING.
UM, I'VE WORKED IN A COMMUNITY WHERE IT WAS AN ONGOING THING.
UM, AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT GOES, IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY.
UM, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THE, THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES TEND TO HAPPEN AT NIGHT.
UM, AND THEY TEND TO AROUND REVOLVE AROUND NOISE.
UM, SO SETTING YOUR PARKING REGS TO YOUR, YOUR UNITS IS, IS IMPORTANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, A HOUSE IS NOT A UNIT.
I WOULD SAY A BEDROOM IS A UNIT.
UM, THESE ARE KIND OF GROUP FACILITIES, UM, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A HOTEL.
UM, SO I THINK PARKING NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED, BUT ULTIMATELY THE ISSUE IS WHAT GOES ON IN SOMEONE'S BACKYARD AT MIDNIGHT, ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, AND HOW THAT AFFECTS THOSE NEIGHBORS.
AND THEN HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO IT'S GONNA BE A, A PULL ON, ON POLICE AND POSSIBLY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE BIG, BIG ISSUES.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS NOT A, A DAILY COMPLAINT THAT, THAT OUR OFFICE IS FIELDING MAYOR.
THE OTHER THING I WILL NOTE IS THAT THERE IS EMERGING CASE LAW ON STR REGULATIONS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO AS PART OF THIS, IF WE'RE GONNA BRING BACK A PRESENTATION, I'LL PUT TOGETHER A MEMO ON THE LEGAL ISSUES, THE COUNCIL.
AND THEN I WAS GONNA SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FULLY ANSWERED THE MAYOR'S QUESTION.
I THINK THE MAYOR WAS ASKING LIKE, HOW WOULD WE KNOW THAT A SHORT TERM RENTAL IS IN EXISTENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND HOW DO WE ENFORCE THEM, LIKE THROUGH A REGISTRY OR WHATNOT, LIKE FOLLOWING OUR ORDINANCE.
WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN THE PRESENTATION AND TALK TO TALK TO YOU THROUGH ALL OF THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND CHALLENGES THAT WE WOULD FACE AS, UM, IF, IF WE LIMIT THEM OR PROHIBIT THEM.
UM, AS A PART OF THAT RESEARCH, CAN WE ALSO LOOK AT IF THERE ARE CITIES WHO LIKE PUT IN TENANT PROTECTIONS OR, OR ITEMS LIKE THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT TOO.
AND THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO JUST CONTINUOUSLY MAINTAIN, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS AN AIRBNB AND, AND ENFORCING THINGS, AND ARE WE GONNA KICK PEOPLE OUT IF THEY HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THERE? UM, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT JUST, YEAH, I MEAN, I'M OPENING TO LISTENING, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M PRO AIRBNB BECAUSE, FOR MANY REASONS.
BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE REGULATE THAT.
AND SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE THE PRESENTATION TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
A LOT OF CITIES DO REC REGULATE IT.
IT DOES TAKE SOME, UH, EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE CITY AND IT IS A, IT'S A GROWING PARTY PROBLEM IN OUR CITY.
NOW I KNOW EVEN IN PLUM CREEK WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF, OF THESE, UH, TEMPORARY RENTALS, WHICH IS MAYBE SURPRISING TO SOME, BUT ONE IS JUST A FEW HOUSES FROM ME AND IT'S RUN VERY WELL.
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I DON'T OBJECT TO IT.UM, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM ARE THAT.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, YOU BRING BACK TO US, UH, A PRESENTATION ON, UH, REGULATING SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY.