Sep 10, 2026 City Council Special Meeting

[I) Call Meeting to Order and Roll Call]

[00:00:08]

FOR YOUR PATIENCE. TODAY IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10TH. THE TIME IS 604. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS SPECIAL MEETING TO ORDER. CAN I PLEASE GET A ROLL CALL? FLORES. KALE HERE. TOBIAS.

PRESENT GOSA IN ATTENDANCE. MEDINA HERE. ZAPATA HERE. HARRIS. MCKINNEY HERE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SIX PRESENT. SO WE HAVE A QUORUM. UP NEXT, I'D LIKE TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[II) Citizen Comment Period with City Council]

SPEAKERS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THIS TIME PERIOD ON ANY AGENDA, ITEM OR ANY OTHER MATTER CONCERNING CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS, AND WE ASK THAT YOU OBSERVE THE THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. ALL RIGHT. TODAY I AM GOING TO ASK, IS IT THE LAST MEETING? WE KIND OF HAD AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME, WHICH I'M COMPLETELY OKAY WITH. BUT IF YOU DO GIVE YOUR TIME, IF YOU COULD KINDLY STAND UP NEXT TO THE SPEAKER OR BESIDE SIT DOWN BESIDE HIM, THAT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. THAT WAY WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE.

ALL RIGHT, UP FIRST WE HAVE KATE JOHNSON. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS KATE JOHNSON. I WANT TO BEGIN TONIGHT BY TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF CENTER STREET. CENTER STREET IS NOT JUST ANOTHER STREET IN KYLE. IT IS PART OF THE HISTORIC HEART OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT TELLS THE STORY OF THE KYLE THAT WAS HERE BEFORE. MUCH OF THE GROWTH WE SEE AROUND US TODAY, THE CHILDHOOD HOME OF KATHERINE ANNE PORTER IS LOCATED ALONG THIS HISTORIC STREETSCAPE, AND THERE ARE HOMES ALONG CENTER STREET WHOSE FRONT YARDS, TREES AND SURROUNDINGS ARE PART OF THAT FABRIC. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRESERVING HISTORY, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO PRESERVE MORE THAN THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES. WE NEED TO PRESERVE THE SETTING AND CHARACTER THAT MAKES THOSE PLACES MEANINGFUL. SO BEFORE WE PUT A WIDE CONCRETE TRAIL THROUGH THROUGH A HISTORIC CORRIDOR LIKE CENTER STREET, LET'S ASK WHETHER THERE ARE OTHER ROUTES WHERE THAT INVESTMENT COULD CONNECT MORE NEIGHBORHOODS, SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES, AND PEOPLE WITHOUT UNNECESSARILY AFFECTING HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND ESTABLISHED FRONT YARDS. AND WE SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER ACCESSIBILITY. THE PROPOSED TRAIL WOULD AFFECT THE HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES AT THE BAPTIST CHURCH. WE SHOULD BE MAKING OUR COMMUNITY MORE ACCESSIBLE, NOT LESS. THAT IS WHY I AM CONCERNED ABOUT PLACING A 12 FOOT WIDE TRAIL ALONG CENTER STREET. BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR I SUPPORT HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS. I BELIEVE THEY CAN BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF KYLE'S FUTURE. INSTEAD OF SIMPLY ASKING, WHERE CAN WE PUT A TRAIL? I THINK WE SHOULD ASK WHO ARE WE BUILDING OUR TRAILS FOR AND WHERE CAN THEY DO THE MOST GOOD? IMAGINE A TRAIL SYSTEM CONNECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO OUR SCHOOLS, OUR BUSINESSES, OUR PARKS AND OUR HOMES. AND LET'S THINK EVEN BIGGER. WHY COULDN'T WE SOMEDAY HAVE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS CONNECTING KYLE TO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT HAYS COUNTY? WE COULD CREATE A NETWORK OF SAFE PATHS FOR BICYCLISTS, RUNNERS, WALKERS, CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND PEOPLE SIMPLY WANTING TO GET OUTSIDE AND EXERCISE. LET OUR TRAILS BE FOR THEM. WE ALREADY HAVE STREETS FOR CARS, TRUCKS, MOTORCYCLES, AND OTHER MOTORIZED VEHICLES. THAT IS WHY I QUESTION WHETHER OUR TRAIL SHOULD BE DESIGNED AROUND GOLF CARTS AND OTHER MOTORIZED VEHICLES. AS KYLE GROWS, WE WILL HAVE MORE TRAFFIC, MORE CROWDED STREETS, AND MORE DEMAND FOR PARKING TRAILS. GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN FOR THAT GROWTH DIFFERENTLY BY GIVING PEOPLE ANOTHER WAY TO MOVE THROUGH THEIR COMMUNITY. THIS ISN'T ABOUT. THIS ISN'T ABOUT BEING AGAINST TRAILS. IT'S ABOUT HAVING A GREATER VISION FOR THEM. LET'S PRESERVE OUR HISTORY. LET'S CONNECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, LET'S CONNECT WITH OUR COMMUNITIES, AND LET'S BUILD TRAILS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL USE THEM. WE HAVE ROADS FOR VEHICLES. LET OUR TRAILS BE FOR PEOPLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE HOWARD CONNELL. I'M GOING TO SAY GOOD MORNING.

[00:05:12]

THEY SENT THEIR STAFF TO FLORIDA TO MIX WITH THE DISNEY PEOPLE ON HOW THEY HANDLE THINGS THEIR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, ALL SELF-CONTAINED. SO THE AREA I LIVE, WE HAD FIVE TRAILS. IT WAS A MAJOR SELLING POINT, BUT THE ONE THING IS, IS THEY WENT THROUGH PARKS. THEY HAD LOTS OF SHADED TREES, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE HERE. AND THE, THE THING ON THE INTERNET, THE SLIDES, I GUESS, THAT SHOW PEOPLE HAPPILY RIDING BIKES OR WHATEVER, THOSE ARE NOT ALONG THOROUGHFARES AND THEY'RE LONG PARKS AND THEY GOT ALL KINDS OF VEGETATION TO SHADE THEM. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS.

I ENTITLED THIS DEVELOPER'S HAND KYLE A RED HERRING. IT IS MY OPINION THAT KYLE BEAUTIFIED TRAIL SYSTEM WAS ORIGINALLY CONCEIVED AS A REAL ESTATE MARKETING TOOL RATHER THAN A VIABLE COMMUNITY ASSET. ITS INTENT IS FOCUSED ON PROMOTING OUTDOOR LIFESTYLE TYPICALLY FOUND IN CALIFORNIA AND FLORIDA, WHILE IGNORING LOCAL REALITIES. IT'S CONSTANT MAINTENANCE AND LIKELY FUTURE DEMAND FOR FUTURE COMFORT AMENITIES WILL CREATE A POTENTIAL MONEY PIT FOR TAXPAYERS. WITH A POPULATION OF 65,000 RESIDENTS, ONLY A SMALL SEGMENT WILL ACTUALLY UTILIZE THIS PLAYGROUND. ITS PRIMARY DETERRENT IS CENTRAL TEXAS CLIMATE. THE DANGERS OF OUR WEATHER WERE RECENTLY UNDERSCORED BY COUNCILWOMAN CLAUDIA ZAPATA, WHO RECENTLY NOTED THE SEVERE TOLL THAT HEAT EXHAUSTION AND SUNSTROKE CAUSED FROM KYLE'S SWELTERING HUMIDITY AND HEAT HAS TAKEN ITS TOLL ON TEXAS LIVES. WHILE THIS OUTDOOR LIVING CONCEPT THRIVES IN MILDER AND COASTAL CLIMATES LIKE CALIFORNIA AND FLORIDA, IT IS ENTIRELY INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR EXTREME SUMMER HEAT AND HUMIDITY. WE SHOULD APPROACH THIS PROJECT WITH REALISM RATHER THAN FALLING FOR DEVELOPERS HYPE. I BELIEVE THIS ENTIRE TRAIL CONCEPT WARRANTS AN ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY BY THE CITY PLANNERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. UP NEXT I HAVE CATHERINE MONROE. THANK YOU. SORRY, I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS, SO JUST GET THAT OUT THERE. I WANT TO TALK TODAY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS MY FAMILY DIRECTLY, THE LACK OF SAFE PLACES FOR MY CHILDREN TO RIDE BIKES HERE IN TOWN. RIGHT NOW, IF I WANT TO TAKE MY TWO DAUGHTERS BIKE RIDING, I HAVE TWO OPTIONS AND NEITHER ONE IS LOCAL. I HAVE TO DRIVE THEM TO THE VALERO WAY IN AUSTIN, OR TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL IN DOWNTOWN. THAT IS IT. THOSE ARE MY ONLY CHOICES. OR POTENTIALLY BE HIT BY A CAR. AND HERE'S THE THING. WHEN WE MAKE THAT DRIVE, WE DON'T JUST RIDE BIKES AND COME HOME. WE END UP STAYING FOR LUNCH. SO MY FAMILY'S MONEY, SALES TAX DOLLARS GO TO AUSTIN EVERY SINGLE TIME WE RIDE OUR BIKES. IF WE HAD A TRAIL HERE THAT WE COULD WALK OR BIKE TO, I WOULD BE EATING LUNCH AT THE TEXAS PIE COMPANY OR BE EATING AT BLOODWORTH. I'D BE PUTTING MONEY BACK INTO THIS TOWN, INTO OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, INTO OUR OWN TAX BASE. INSTEAD, RIGHT NOW I'M DRIVING TO SANDIES IN AUSTIN AND SPENDING MY MONEY THERE. WE ARE QUITE LITERALLY LEAVING TAX DOLLARS ON THE TABLE BY NOT INVESTING IN THE TRAIL HERE OR. THE VIBE IS FOR OUR OWN COMMUNITY. TWO THINGS FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT STRUCK ME ABOUT THE VIBE TRAIL. THE FIRST WAS ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN EAST AND WEST. YES, THE TRAIL WILL LINK EAST AND WEST EVEN WITHOUT RUNNING THE FULL LENGTH OF 150.

CONNECTING THROUGH BURLESON AT PLUM CREEK IS STILL STILL COUNTS AS CONNECTION, BUT IF THE CENTER STREET SECTION ISN'T BUILT, TRAILS TRAIL USERS WILL GET ROUTED AROUND DOWNTOWN DOWNTOWN INSTEAD OF THROUGH IT. THE TRAIL WOULD STILL CONNECT EAST AND WEST. IT WOULD JUST CONNECT DOWNTOWN TO THE OTHER SIDE, TO THE EAST SIDE IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THOSE. THE

[00:10:07]

AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL THE VIBE TRAIL WILL DO TO DOWNTOWN. IT'S GOING TO MAKE KYLE NOT ONLY HAVE THE HISTORY THAT WAS KYLE, BUT ALSO WHAT KYLE IS TODAY AND WHAT MY CHILDREN WILL HAVE WHEN THEY'RE GROWN. HOPEFULLY STILL LIVING HERE BECAUSE I WANT THEM RIGHT NEXT TO ME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. APOLOGIES IF I SAY THIS NAME WRONG, BUT UP NEXT IS RISTO AND NOVA SKI.

OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE IN THE BACK. I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT YOU LOOK IMPORTANT. SO THAT'S OUR STAFF. AS FOR MY ACCENT, ORIGINALLY, I'M FROM MACEDONIA. I MOVED IN KYLE TWO YEARS AGO. I LOVED THE CITY AND I LOVE THE VIBE THAT THIS CITY IS GIVING. AND I JUST WANT TO MENTION THE PLACE THAT I'M FROM.

IT'S BASICALLY THE THE PLACE WHERE THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION STARTED. AND I LOVE HISTORY.

ALEXANDER THE GREAT MADE A LOT OF MESS THERE, LIKE CONQUERED THE KNOWN WORLD. IT DOESN'T MATTER. BUT THE POINT IS, I LOVE HISTORY AND I LOVE WHAT I HEARD LAST TIME FROM ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HERE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW THEY TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY OF IT. SO THAT'S HUGE. AND THAT'S ALSO IN CONSIDERATION. BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE SMALL TOWN IN SOUTH CAROLINA, I THINK. SO THE NAME WAS TRAVELERS REST OF THE TOWN, AND THEY DID SOMETHING FOR THEIR DOWNTOWN AREA IN ORDER TO MAKE IT A MORE VIBRANT AND TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE TO INVEST AND FOR THE BUSINESSES TO GROW. SO THEY MADE LIKE A 12 FOOT TRAIL. ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT TRAIL. IT'S A SIDEWALK, 12 FOOT SIDEWALK.

BUT THEY CONNECTED IT TO THEIR ALREADY EXISTING TRAIL SYSTEM, I THINK. SO THE NAME OF IT WAS RABBIT SWAMP SYSTEM, AND THEY BROUGHT 20 BUSINESSES RIGHT AFTER THAT. THEY GET GOT THE PRICES OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE TO GROW MORE. SO BASICALLY THE PRICES WENT UP OF THE AREAS THAT WERE DIRECTLY AFFECTED TO THAT EXPANSION. SO THEY MADE GOOD FOR THEIR CITIZENS. THEY ARE IN THAT AREA. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS OUT FOR YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND JUST REACH OUT TO THEM. THEY'RE NOT IN CHINA. THEY ARE JUST HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. WE CAN ALL GET LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER, WHAT WE WHAT THEY THEY PROBABLY WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW HERE.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF US. SIR, I HEARD LAST TIME THAT YOU MENTIONED YOUR KIDS ARE HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL THROUGH A MATH THAT'S HORRIBLE. AND THAT'S REALLY TOUCHED ME AND TOUCHED MANY PEOPLE RIGHT OVER HERE. BUT THIS IS A REFLECTION TO EVERYONE THAT DID THIS JOB FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS. SO SOMEONE DID THIS JOB. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU NOW, BUT 40 YEARS IN THIS COUNCIL MEMBERS LET THOSE KIDS WALK LIKE THAT. THAT'S ALSO NOT ACCEPTABLE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO DO BETTER, BETTER FOR THESE PEOPLE BEHIND. AND YOU KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S A HUGE PART. SO ALSO I WANT TO POINT OUT TREES ARE VERY IMPORTANT. SOMEONE LAST TIME MENTIONED ABOUT THE HISTORICAL TREE. I WILL BE THERE BECAUSE THAT TREE NEEDS PROTECTION. IN THE UNIVERSE, TREES ARE MORE RARE THAN DIAMONDS, MORE RARE THAN GOLD. THEY ARE OUR PART OF OUR FUTURE AS WELL. SO EVERYTHING IS IMPORTANT, EVERYTHING IN CONSIDERATION. BUT WE WANT A SYSTEM WHERE WE CAN BE SAFE DRIVING OUR BIKES AND WE NEED THAT. SO WE NEED YOU GUYS TO DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS A REALITY. WE NEED A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT IS SAFE FOR US. I'M SO SORRY. TEN MORE SECONDS. AND YOU CAN ALSO VOUCH FOR THAT. WE NEED THAT. THAT'S NOT NEGOTIABLE FOR A LOT OF US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. UP NEXT, I HAVE EMILY SORENSEN REPRESENTING JOSH KELLER. YES. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. HI, EVERYONE. JOSH WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT, SO I OFFERED TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF. HE'S THE FOUNDER OF THE KYLE TRAIL COALITION, AND I KNOW AN ADVOCATE THAT'S WORKED WITH CITY COUNCIL IN THE PAST. SO HIS STATEMENT HERE, ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT INVITED ME, MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL MOUNTAIN BIKE TEAM AND OTHER TRAIL ADVOCATES FROM AROUND KYLE TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER AROUND A HUGE MAP OF OUR CITY. WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT HOW WE COULD IMPROVE KYLE THROUGH TRAILS, PARKS, RECREATION, AND CONNECTIVITY. AND SOMETHING IMPORTANT HAPPENED IN THAT ROOM.

THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DIDN'T JUST LISTEN TO OUR LOGISTICAL SUGGESTIONS. THEY WERE HUMBLE ENOUGH TO LET US TEACH THEM ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF TRAILS AND THE ADVANTAGES AND

[00:15:02]

FORMING A NONPROFIT WAS ALREADY SOMETHING WE HAD BEEN WORKING TOWARDS FOR YEARS. WE WERE ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT EFFORT, AND WE HAD A CITY EMPLOYEE WORKING WITH US AND HELPING US NAVIGATE THAT PROCESS. THEN THAT EMPLOYEE WAS LET GO BY THE CURRENT INTERIM CITY MANAGER. SO TELLING US TO CREATE A NONPROFIT IS NOT THE SAME THING AS BUILDING A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TRAIL ADVOCATES WHO HAD ALREADY BEEN DOING THIS WORK. A PARTNERSHIP MEANS SITTING DOWN WITH US. IT MEANS LISTENING TO WHAT WE KNOW. IT MEANS ASKING US TO HELP SOLVE PROBLEMS. IT MEANS RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE RESIDENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO ARE WILLING TO GIVE THEIR TIME, EXPERIENCE AND ENERGY TO MAKE KYLE BETTER. INSTEAD, WE'VE WATCHED DECISIONS AFFECTING CONSERVATION, WELLNESS, RECREATION, PARKS, AND TRAILS BECOME INCREASINGLY DISCONNECTED FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPENT YEARS ADVOCATING FOR THEM. AND THAT'S WHAT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS ARE RIGHT HERE.

WE AREN'T ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY, TO GIVE US CONTROL. WE'RE ASKING THE CITY TO WORK WITH US. I'VE WONDERED IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THIS. I'VE WONDERED IF I'VE MISJUDGED THIS MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL. I'VE HOPED THAT AT SOME POINT THE CITY WOULD EXTEND ITS HAND AND SAY, LET'S WORK TOGETHER. AND I'M STILL HOPEFUL. BUT TONIGHT'S DECISION MATTERS. IF TONIGHT YOU DECIDE TO PUT IN A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK WITHOUT FIRST MEETING WITH THE CITY'S TRAIL ADVOCATES TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE, EXPLORE ALTERNATIVES AND TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS TOGETHER, THEN YOU'RE SENDING A MESSAGE ABOUT THE ROLE YOU WANT RESIDENTS TO HAVE. IT SAYS THAT OUR INPUT IS WELCOME IN THEORY, BUT WHEN AN ACTUAL DECISION NEEDS TO BE MADE, IT ISN'T NECESSARY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT GOOD LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE. GOOD LEADERSHIP EMPOWERS PASSIONATE PEOPLE. WE SHOULD BE ASKING HOW TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED 18 MONTHS AGO. IT'S A RELATIONSHIP I HOPE WE CAN GET BACK TO. I HOPE YOU CAN SHOW US THAT OUR RESIDENT INPUT STILL MATTERS. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE PARTNERSHIP OVER RESTRICTION. WE'RE PASSIONATE, WE HAVE KNOWLEDGE, WE'RE INVESTED, AND WE WANT TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE CITY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UP NEXT, I HAVE AN DEWAN. GOOD EVENING.

I'M IAN DEWAN. TONIGHT I WANT TO TALK LESS ABOUT FEET AND PAVEMENT AND MORE ABOUT WHY I'M SO CONCERNED ABOUT REDUCING THE CENTER STREET PORTION OF THE VIBE. WHEN I MOVED TO KYLE MANY YEARS AGO, I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A FAMILY SUPPORT SYSTEM HERE. AFTER MY DIVORCE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MADE AN ENORMOUS DIFFERENCE FOR ME AND MY DAUGHTER WAS THE CITY OF KYLE'S SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM. IT WAS AFFORDABLE, IT WAS ACCESSIBLE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WAS SOMEWHERE I TRUSTED TO LEAVE MY DAUGHTER. MAYOR, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT OUR KIDS WERE THERE AT THE SAME TIME. THAT WAS REALLY MY INTRODUCTION TO KYLE PARKS AND RECREATION.

LATER, I JOINED A KICKBALL TEAM, AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, PARKS AND REC STOPPED BEING JUST A SERVICE THE CITY PROVIDED AND BECAME ONE OF THE WAYS I BECAME PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. MY DAUGHTER AND I MET PEOPLE WE NEVER WOULD HAVE MET OTHERWISE. PEOPLE OUTSIDE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF I-35, PEOPLE WHOSE PATHS SIMPLY WOULDN'T HAVE CROSSED OURS IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES. AND THAT MATTERS. WE'VE TALKED FOR YEARS IN KYLE ABOUT THE DIVIDE BETWEEN EAST AND WEST SIDES OF OUR CITY. WE USUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT DIVIDE IN TERMS OF ROADS DEVELOPMENT, INVESTMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER KIND OF CONNECTIVITY THAT MATTERS JUST AS MUCH. CONNECTING PEOPLE TO PEOPLE.

PARKS TO THAT RECREATION PROGRAMS DO THAT. TRAILS DO THAT. THAT'S WHY I DON'T LOOK AT THE VIBE AS SIMPLY A 12 FOOT PATH. I SEE IT AS PART OF THE SAME THING I EXPERIENCED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GIVES PEOPLE A REASON AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO CROSS PATHS WITH NEIGHBORS THEY MIGHT OTHERWISE NOT KNOW. CENTER STREET IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOME ISOLATED RECREATIONAL TRAIL. IT'S A CONNECTION THROUGH THE SOUL OF OUR COMMUNITY. IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT CREATING ONE KYLE, RATHER

[00:20:07]

WERE THEY CONSULTED WITH. THAT SAID, VOTERS APPROVED THE BOND PRIMARILY FOR TRAFFIC RELIEF.

THAT SHOULD REMAIN THE DRIVING PRIORITY AND THE PUN IS INTENDED WHILE MINIMIZING THE REAL IMPACTS TO THE REAL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE ROAD ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT. FOR THE WATER, WE HAVE A PORTFOLIO. YOU'RE GOING TO BE EXAMINED, ALL OF THEM REGIONAL, LOCAL. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE A CHOICE. AND SO WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT'S 9 OR 8 CONSULTANTS ON HIRE IN A ROTATION LIST SPECIFICALLY FOR WATER AND WATER UTILITIES. WHY DON'T WE LEAN ON TO ONE OF THEM TO PERFORM A PORTFOLIO STUDY THAT THE TEXAS WATER BOARD ACTUALLY ADVOCATES FOR? THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M NEXT. I HAVE SPENCER COPELAND. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SPENCER COPELAND, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR AS WELL. SO AS WE'RE TALKING OUT HERE TONIGHT, WE KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM THE CITY OVER AGAIN THAT WE ARE EXPECTING ABOUT A $55 MILLION OVERRUN ON THE CURRENT ROAD BOND PROJECT. THE VIBE TRAILS IS ONE OF THOSE IN THE PACKET, SO I'D ENCOURAGE CITY COUNCIL

[00:25:03]

[00:30:04]

AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING. AND WHEN THEY GET CONSTANTLY RELITIGATED YEAR AFTER YEAR, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF ELECTIONS SHOULD BE TO SETTLE THESE ISSUES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP HAVING CONFLICT ABOUT THEM YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR. AND SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO THINK I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO'S TWO YEARS OLD WHEN SHE IS MY AGE, 50 YEARS. THE POPULATION OF KYLE WILL BE TWICE WHAT IT IS NOW. AND WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S SCALED NOT JUST FOR THE PRESENT BUT FOR THE FUTURE. AND IN 50 YEARS, I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS GOING TO KNOW OR CARE. IF THE COST OF THE CENTER STREET PROJECT WAS REDUCED BY 20% OR NOT, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO CARE IF THEIR KIDS CAN RIDE A BIKE SAFELY FROM CYPRESS FOREST TO DOWNTOWN, AND THEY ARE GOING TO CARE IF THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL REVITALIZED DOWNTOWN AREA. AND THAT COULD ALL START TONIGHT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD URGE YOU TO, TO, TO SUPPORT LEAVING THE TO BURY THE UTILITY LINES AND TO KEEP THE TRAIL THE WAY THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED IN THE PLANS IN 2022. SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE REBECCA CHAPA. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS REBECCA CHAPA. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE BIKE TRAIL AND THE CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PROJECT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE WAY THESE PROJECTS ARE BEING PRESENTED AS PART OF THE 2022 PROPOSITION A ROAD BOND. FROM MY RESEARCH ON TRYING TO FIND THE BALLOT LANGUAGE FROM THAT ELECTION, I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING WITH FIVE TRAIL ON IT. WHAT I FOUND WAS THAT IT WAS A $294 MILLION IN BONDS TO FOUR STREETS, BRIDGES, SIDEWALKS AND THE LEVYING OF TAX AND PAYMENT. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THE

[00:35:01]

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR. ON AUGUST 27TH, I READ THE ORDINANCE OF MAINTENANCE STATUTE 38-21 TO YOU. I HAVE BEEN READING THESE THE SUPPORTING AND SUPPLEMENTAL ORDINANCE ORDINANCES OF THE VIBE, WHICH ARE STATUTE 53-89 1 TO 53 8991-35. THE VIBE OR THE VIBE ORDINANCE IS STATUTE 53-9 HUNDRED. AND IN THAT STATUTE IS A MAINTENANCE ORDINANCE. THE MAINTENANCE ORDINANCE IS AS THE VIBE IS CONTINUALLY DEVELOPED, ONGOING MAINTENANCE WILL BE PERMANENT, PARAMOUNT TO ENSURE SAFETY AND CLEANLINESS. THE CITY HAS A TRAIL MAINTENANCE CREW TO OVERSEE THE. THIS PROCESS AT DASH. ADDITIONALLY, THE ADJACENT STRUCTURES TO THE VIBE SUCH AS BENCHES, EQUIPMENT, SIGNAGE, LIGHT POLES, BRIDGES, CULVERTS, ETC. SHOULD BE ROUTINELY INSPECTED BY UTILIZING CONCRETE ON. TO CONSTRUCT THE VIBE, THE TRAIL WILL HAVE GREATER LONGEVITY THAN UTILIZING OTHER SURFACES.

HOWEVER, CONCRETE PANELS MAY HEAVE, SPALL OR CRACK, WHICH WILL REQUIRE PANEL REPLACEMENTS.

SECTIONS OF THE VIBE THROUGH HOA'S IN VIBES OR VIBES SHOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE UNDERLYING

[00:40:02]

THANK YOU. NEXT, I HAVE TRACY SHARKEY. HELLO, COUNCIL MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM TRACY SHARKEY, DISTRICT SIX. IT'S SUPER DIFFICULT TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN ABOUT THIS TRAIL AND THE MONEY AND THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. WE'RE IN THE HEAD. WE'RE IN THE HOLE. WE DON'T HAVE AN ANIMAL SHELTER. AND I KNOW THAT'S NONE OF YOUR FAULT, BUT THIS CAN HAS BEEN KICKED AND KICKED AND KICKED. AND NOW HERE WE ARE. WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT, HOW WE'RE GOING TO RUN IT, WHICH I'M SURE WE WILL FIGURE THIS OUT. BUT I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO ZOOM OUT, COPE AHEAD. REMEMBER THE ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. I WISH WE COULD WORK TOGETHER WITH THE VIBE.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT IT'S SUCH AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT. NOW WE'RE WITH SAN MARCOS. IN 2024.

THEY SAID THAT THEY COULDN'T HELP US OUT ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE SO OVERCROWDED. IT'S HEARTBREAKING AND I HOPE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GO THERE AND LOOK AND LISTEN AND SMELL.

THE FEASIBILITY STUDY CAME OUT IN AUGUST OF 2025. YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO COST ABOUT $35 MILLION. WE CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING SMALL THAT'S GOING TO BE WORSE THAN IF WE BUILD SOMETHING SMALL THAT WE I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE. I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO WASTE TIME ON THAT. I DO WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF Y'ALL. I REALLY, REALLY DO. I'VE SAT HERE AND I'VE OBSERVED FOR HOUR AFTER HOUR AFTER HOUR, AND SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE, OH MY GOD, I'M WATCHING THEM MAKE SAUSAGE. LITERALLY. LIKE ANN RICHARDS SAYS, IT IS UGLY SOMETIMES, BUT THAT'S IT. I JUST WANT TO ASK Y'ALL TO ZOOM OUT AND THINK ABOUT THE ANIMALS TOO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY.

I'M NEXT. I HAVE BETTY CONLEY. HI, MY NAME IS BETTY CONLEY, DISTRICT SIX. I HAVE A FEW WORDS ABOUT DISTRICT SIX. WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. OUR ROADS ARE A MESS. CHILDREN HAVE TO WALK TO SCHOOL. WE HAVE PEOPLE HIT ALREADY ON DAISY LANE SEVERAL TIMES. AND I THINK IT'S A SIN THAT WE CANNOT GET HELP OVER THERE FOR THE ROADS AND THE SIDEWALKS. I ALSO WANT TO QUESTION THE EVERYBODY VOTED ON THE BOND FOR THIS VIBE. THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY IT'S EITHER BLACK OR WHITE. IT CAN BE BOTH. I FEEL WHAT HAPPENED IS THE LANGUAGE DID NOT TELL PEOPLE IT SURVIVE INVOLVED IN IT. THE LANGUAGE DID NOT SAY THAT. IT SAID ROADS, SIDEWALKS MORE SO IT COULD HAVE PASSED WITH PEOPLE'S IDEAS THAT IT WAS A ROAD, SIDEWALKS AND

[00:45:09]

I AM NOT ABOVE BOARD OF BEING CORRECTED AND I'M NOT ASHAMED TO BE CORRECTED. I RECEIVED MISINFORMATION AND I ACCEPT THAT CORRECTION, BUT I DO WISH COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA WOULD DO THE SAME. AT THE SAME MEETING. SHE SPOKE ABOUT THE CONTRACT. THAT SAME CONTRACT ERROR WHICH HAPPENED IN 2025, SAYING THAT STAFF'S HAD THEIR SERVICES CUT, THEIR DEPARTMENTS CUT, THEIR BUDGETS CUT, AND WE EXPECT THEM TO BE CONTINUOUSLY RUNNING, SEAMLESSLY SMOOTHING THAT THEY MAKE MISTAKES. HOWEVER, THAT MISTAKE HAD BEEN MADE IN 2025 BEFORE ANY OF THOSE CUTS HAPPENED. WHEN WE WERE TALKING, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE HAD REDUNDANCY. SO I WOULD PLEASE LIKE YOU TO BE ACCURATE IN YOUR STATEMENTS AND ALSO THE PROCESSES AT THE CLOSE OF THEIR PRACTICE IS AT THE CLOSE OF THE PROJECT TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING, SEE WHAT WE DID RIGHT, WHAT WE DID WRONG. THAT'S TOO LATE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND COLLECT 2.5 MILLION. NOW THAT WE WE CAN'T SAY WE HAVE IT YET. WE'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN WE ACTUALLY SEE IT AND HAVE IT RETURN TO US. BUT THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN. IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY HAPPEN, BUT WE DON'T KNOW. SO THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. AND I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT I JUST HEARD THAT. INTERIM CITY MANAGER PAVEZ HAS WRITTEN PROCEDURES 18 PAGES IN PLACE TO SET GUARDRAILS UP TO AVOID THIS SITUATION, BECAUSE IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AFTER IT'S DONE. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD BE. THE SCATA. THIS IS WHY WE NEED. ACTUALLY, AT THE LAST MEETING, COUNCIL INTERIM PRO TEM MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS DISCOVERED HAD DISCOVERED ANOTHER ERROR IN A CONTRACT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PROCESS. IT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ERROR, AND IT WAS REGARDING THE SLUDGE. AND THAT'S ANOTHER 2.5 MILLION WE CANNOT AFFORD AS A CITY TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN. MISTAKES DO HAPPEN, BUT WHEN WE START HAVING $2.5 MILLION MISTAKES HERE, $2.5 MILLION MISTAKES THERE, WE CAN'T CONTINUE THAT. WE HAVE TO HAVE PROCESSES IN PLACE AND WE DO NEED A FORENSIC AUDIT. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER MISTAKES THERE ARE WAITING TO BE FOUND OUT. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. AS FAR AS THE TRAILS, THE BOND LANGUAGE STATED THAT IT'S ROADS AND

[00:50:02]

NOTHING ABOUT A BIKE TRAIL. IT'S LIKE A BAIT AND SWITCH. TRAILS ARE A NICE THING TO HAVE, BUT TRAILS ARE AN ANEMONE THAT THEY ARE. THEY ARE AN ANEMONE. AND WHEN WE HAVE KIDS OVER ON THE EAST SIDE WALKING ON A TRAIL THAT THEY MADE THEMSELVES BY WALKING AND MOWING THE GRASS DOWN WITH THEIR FEET, THAT IS THIS NARROW. AND YOU AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 12 FOOT, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES WITH IT RIGHT OF WAY UP TO 20FT TOTAL, WHATEVER. YOU GOT TO WEIGH THOSE, WHICH IS A BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE NEED AND WHICH IS AN ANEMONE. AND SO WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, 4 TO 6 FOOT SIDEWALKS IN SOME AREAS. HOW MUCH PER MILE ARE THOSE GOING TO COST VERSUS THE VIBE? WHAT ABOUT TAKING ALL THE PARKING OUT HERE? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? MAKE THAT PARKING LOT HERE A PARKING GARAGE FOR PEOPLE. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T JUST WALK UP AND GET A PIE OF THE PIE COMPANY ANYMORE, BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR OF A PARKING GARAGE AND WALK DOWN. AND WHAT ABOUT TAKING HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBILITY AWAY? SOMEBODY IN A HANDICAPPED SPOT CAN'T JUST PULL UP TO A BUSINESS ANYMORE. YOU GUYS HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRAILS COALITION WANTS TO BE ABLE TO CYCLE IN 100 DEGREE WEATHER. THEY I'VE LISTENED TO SOMETHING THAT SAID THEY WANT TO HAVE THESE HUBS EVERYWHERE SO THAT YOU CAN JUST CYCLE ALL DAY AND GO TO A DIFFERENT SPOT. BUT THINK ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF TAXPAYERS IN KYLE THAT THIS WILL AFFECT. IT IS A SMALL NUMBER. AND ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA INTIMATED, AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THIS AGAIN, THAT ON STAGECOACH, PARENTS ARE TEACHING THEIR KIDS TO RIDE BIKES. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. MAYBE I'M WRONG. MAYBE SHE DIDN'T SAY THEY DID, BUT SHE SAID SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS IT WAS BECAUSE A CHILD COULD FALL IN A DITCH OR FALL ON THE ROAD. I DRIVE THAT ROAD ALMOST EVERY DAY. I'VE NEVER SEEN A PARENT WITH A CHILD, A LITTLE CHILD, MAYBE ONE TIME, BUT THERE ARE NOT. PEOPLE KNOW THEY'RE NOT TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN TO RIDE BIKES ON THAT ROAD. IF THEY ARE, THEY'RE IRRESPONSIBLE. THAT'S THE PARENT'S PROBLEM, NOT OUR PROBLEM. THEY NEED TO BE TEACHING THEM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT'S NOT THAT SPEED, WHERE THERE'S NO. SHOULDERS, IT'S JUST A TWO LANE NARROW ROAD THAT IS RIDICULOUSLY IRRESPONSIBLE THAT PARENTS SHOULD SHOULD HAVE HAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT. SO. I JUST HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL USES COMMON SENSE, KEEPS FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IN MIND, KEEPS THE TAXPAYER IN MIND. WE ARE IN A CHALLENGING TIME RIGHT NOW, AND WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THIS YEAR THERE MAY BE FUNDING FOR OTHER THINGS NEXT YEAR, BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR ROADS, ON OUR SIDEWALKS, ON OUR BASIC NEEDS BEFORE WE CAN GO BEYOND THAT. THAT'S JUST LIKE THIS PLAN FOR $160,000, $1 MILLION SPORTSPLEX WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE ROADS AND SIDEWALKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I AM ALL OUT OF FORMS, AND SO IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE,

[III.1) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding the city-wide planned Vybe Trail system, segment maps, amenities, design and build responsibilities, and estimated costs.]

[00:55:01]

THE CITY'S VISION OF THE SYSTEM. THIS RIGHT HERE WAS ESSENTIALLY PULLED FROM THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE ADOPTED. AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS, IT'S A CITYWIDE TRAIL SYSTEM, A 10 TO 12FT WIDE WITH THE INTENTION OF BEING ABLE TO RIDE ON IT FROM A BICYCLE, GOLF CARTS, I CAN BIKE, ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF. AND THE IDEA IS IT'S A RECREATIONAL SYSTEM.

IT'S PART OF AS AN EXTENSION OF THE CITY'S PARK SYSTEM. AND ALSO YOU HAVE NODES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM TO WHERE EACH ONE IS UNIQUE, WHERE YOU CAN ENJOY IT. YOU CAN GO TO GET SOME ICE CREAM, ANOTHER PLACE, GO TO A BARBECUE PLACE, GO TO AN OUTDOOR CONCERT, THAT KIND OF STUFF. FROM AN OVERVIEW OF THE TRAIL SYSTEM, IT'S LARGELY FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE. HELD ON SECTION 53-9 HUNDRED. IT IS A CITY WIDE PAVED TRAIL SYSTEM CONNECTING TO HIGHER DENSITY, LIVABLE, WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED FOR PEDESTRIANS AND GOLF CARTS.

TRAIL ORIENTED, TRAIL ORIENTED DESIGN. AND PLEASE NOTE THAT THE TRAIL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CITY WIDE SIDEWALKS OR OTHER TRAIL SYSTEMS WITH THOSE MASTER PLANS FROM THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. THESE ARE THE CODE SECTIONS THAT ARE WHERE WE PRIMARILY SEE IT.

SECTION 41-137K1 10 TO 12FT WIDE WITHIN A 20 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT OR RIGHT OF WAY, SECTION 41-139. THAT IS WHERE IT IS SUGGESTED. HEAVILY LEANS UPON HAVING A GRADE SEPARATED CROSSING RGB LED LIGHTS. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, AND HAWK SIGNALS. SECTION 41-143A2. BECAUSE IT'S RECREATIONAL, WE CAN HAVE IT IN THE FLOODPLAIN, BUT WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL WITH THAT.

AND ALSO IF IT IS ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC STREET, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO REPLACE EXISTING SIDEWALKS WITH THE BIKE TRAIL. SECTION 41-146. WE ARE REQUIRING AMARILLO BLACK ACORN DESIGN.

TYPICAL. THE PROTOTYPICAL DESIGN ON THE DECORATIVE LIGHT IS THE DACEY LANE SECTION OVER BY CHAPA MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THEN WE ARE INTENDING TO HAVE THE PARKS SIGNAGE MASTER PLAN ACTUALLY ADOPTED IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TRAIL SIGNAGE. FROM THE KEY DESIGN. WE'RE LOOKING AT 12FT SECONDARY ROUTES WITH TEN FEET ACCOMMODATIONS THAT MUST BE REQUIRED AND NEEDS TO BE CONCRETE, ADA COMPLIANT, BUT ALSO A WIDE ENOUGH TO COMFORTABLY ALLOW GOLF CARTS AND BICYCLES TO PASS WITH PEDESTRIANS. AND IF IT IS IN THE PARK SYSTEM, THEY ARE CAPPED AT 25 MILES AN HOUR WITH KPD REQUIREMENTS, PER THE ORDINANCE. WHAT'S NOT REQUIRED? WE DO NOT REQUIRE RESTROOM FACILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRAIL. NOW. WE DO TAKE OPPORTUNITIES WHEN WE'RE. WHEN WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH DEVELOPERS TO SEE IF THEY CAN ADD THOSE AT KEY INTERVALS, THERE'S AT LEAST ONE IN THE SYSTEM WHERE THEY HAVE DONE THAT. WI-FI AVAILABILITY. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE CODE, BUT THE CITY EXPENSE AND THE LOGISTICAL HURDLES OF IT IS ASTRONOMICAL, SO WE HAVE NOT ADDED THAT YET. SECURITY, EACH TRAILHEAD AND MILE MARKERS WILL HAVE NUMBERS ON THEM. SO IF PEOPLE GET LOST ON THE TRAIL AND THEN COME UP TO THE MILE MARKERS, THEY CAN CALL THAT IF THEY ARE LOST AND THEY WILL BE GEO REFERENCED AND WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE COME OUT AND RESCUE THEM. WE ARE ALSO ADDING IN VERY, VERY EARLY STAGES WITH KPD TO DISCUSS PATROLLING IT, BUT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN VERY FAR WITH THAT. TRAIL SYSTEM DELIVERY RESPONSIBILITY. THE TOTAL SYSTEM IS 110 AND A HALF MILES, WITH A DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION AT 63 MILES OR 57%. THE CITY ROAD BOND IS GOING TO ACCOUNT FOR EIGHT MILES OF 7.2%, AND THE CITY'S REMAINING RESPONSIBILITIES OUTSIDE THE ROAD, BOND IS 39.5 MILES AT 35.75%. AND HERE IS THE ASSOCIATED MAP BASED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. SO THE BLUE IS CITY REMAINING RESPONSIBILITY. THE GREEN IS CITY ROAD BOND AND RED IS DEVELOPER CONTRIBUTION.

COST ESTIMATES. FOR THIS WE ACCOUNTED FOR AT $3 MILLION PER MILE ON AVERAGE. THAT IS A HIGH

[01:00:01]

ROAD BOND IS COMING AT 6.9 MILLION PER LOCKNER DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK WE HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS. WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER MEDINA, SO SOME OF MY QUESTIONS MAY PERTAIN TO BOTH ITEM ONE AND ITEM TWO. BUT STARTING OFF THE 110 MILES FOR THE TRAIL WAS APPROVED ON THE 22 ROAD BOND AND WAS PROJECTED TO TAKE HOW LONG TO BUILD. I DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR HOW LONG THAT THE ROAD BOND PROJECTS ARE PROJECTED TO BUILD, SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE FOR THE 110 MILES FOR THE BIKE TRAIL. WE DO NOT HAVE AN END DATE FOR THE 110 MILES, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A LARGE SCALE PROJECT THAT IT WILL COME IN IN LITTLE CHUNKS AT A TIME, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT FOUR YEARS IN, WE'LL JUST SHORT OF FOUR YEARS IN IF YOU VOTED IN 2022. SO THREE YEARS IN AND WE'VE COMPLETED 16 MILES. SO WE HAVE 94 LEFT, THAT WOULD STAND TO REASON THAT IT'LL BE MULTIPLE YEARS BEFORE WE COMPLETE THAT, CONSIDERING THE ROADS THEMSELVES AREN'T FOLLOWING THE SAME PATTERN, TAKING TIME TO COMPLETE. WE HAD $294 MILLION APPROVED FOR THAT 22 ROAD BOND, AND I KNOW THE CONSENSUS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, BUILD WITH THE RESIDENTS, VOTED FOR GET EVERYTHING COMPLETE.

BUT THE KNOWLEDGE IS WE'RE $55 MILLION OVER BUDGET PERIOD FOR THE ROAD BONDS. THE CENTER STREET SECTION ALONE IS $19 MILLION OVER BUDGET. AND IF WE CONTINUED ON WITH ALL OF THE WORK AS THE RESIDENTS VOTED ON, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO TAKE THIS BACK TO THE VOTERS TO GET APPROVAL TO FINISH WHAT THE VOTERS VOTED ON. SO WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE. 12 FOOT FOR YOUR YOUR VIBE TRAIL DOWNTOWN, 12 FOOT IN SOME AREAS, TEN FOOT IN OTHERS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE TEN FOOT IS MORE ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND 12 FOOT IS LIKE DOWNTOWN CONNECT. THE TEN FOOT WAS CONNECTING AREAS, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. THE. FOR EXAMPLE, IN WATERLEAF, THE TRAIL HEADS GOING OVER TO THE SPINE OF THE TRAIL ARE TEN FEET AND THEN THE SPINE IS 12FT. AND JUST TRYING TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT FOR SAFETY ISSUES, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE GOLF CARTS ARE POPULAR. YOU GO DOWN TO PORT ARANSAS, GOLF CARTS ARE DRIVEN ALL OVER THE PLACE. BUT FOR THEM TO BE ON A 12 FOOT PATH, THAT LEAVES FOUR FOOT FOR A GOLF CART COMING ONE WAY, FOUR FOOT FOR GOLF CART COMING ANOTHER WAY, AND THEN FOUR FOOT IN THE MIDDLE FOR YOUR PEDESTRIANS, YOUR WHEELCHAIRS, YOUR STROLLERS. AND THAT'S ASSUMING SOMEONE ISN'T GOING TWO MILES AN HOUR IN THEIR GOLF CART, AND SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO PASS THEM TO GET AROUND THEM. 12 FOOT REALLY ISN'T EVEN NECESSARILY ALL THAT SAFE UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO STRIPE IT LIKE A REGULAR ROAD. RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I'VE SEEN

[01:05:02]

WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION. IT JUST SEEMS SOMETHING OF THAT. IT'S GOING DOWNTOWN ISN'T SAFE FOR OUR PEDESTRIANS, FOR OUR FOLKS THAT ARE COMING OUT TO GO TO OUR CHRISTMAS FESTIVALS, TO GO TO OUR MARKET DAYS, WHEN WE DO HAVE THEM ON A ROUTINE BASIS. WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR.

MOVING ON TO ANOTHER AREA, YOU KNOW, IS THAT FEASIBLE? RIDING IT AROUND DOWNTOWN. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT REROUTING THE PATH, THAT IS A QUESTION OF DESIGN. AND TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO START ANOTHER CONTRACT FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE. SO THAT WOULD COST MORE MONEY. AND TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE DESIGN AS WE HAVE IT NOW, SINCE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO COMPLETE. IS IT FEASIBLE? DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO TO COMPLETE CENTER STAGE, CENTER STREET, ON AND OFF SYSTEM, NOT UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES AND BUILDING THE PATH LATER IN YEARS TO COME WHEN WE'VE GONE BACK OUT FOR ANOTHER VOTE? OR DOES THAT THEN INCUR MORE DESIGN COST BECAUSE YOU COMPLETED THE ROADWAY WITH THE TURN LANES AND THE SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS, AND WANT TO COME BACK LATER TO BUILD THE 1212 FOOT SIDEWALK FOR THE VIBE? I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO DETERMINE THAT QUESTION WITH THE EXTRA DESIGN COST CORRECT. GENERALLY AS A BLANKET STATEMENT, THE MORE YOU PUT OFF WORK, THOUGH, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS. BUT YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG WE PUT OFF THE WORK, WE HAVE TO PUT OFF SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY OVER BUDGET AND WE'RE ONLY APPROVED FOR 294 MILLION, AND WE'RE GOING TO SURPASS THAT BEFORE WE COMPLETE ALL THE ROADS, INCLUDING THE BIKE TRAIL. CORRECT. I'M IN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL WITH THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND. OKAY. ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE. I WAS BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE PARKING DOWNTOWN. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS EVEN IF WE DID THE SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS, BECAUSE GOING DOWNTOWN WAS GOING TO HAVE A TURNING LANE FROM ON SYSTEM AND OFF SYSTEM, WE WOULD STILL LOSE OUR PARKING OUT HERE IN THE FRONT. IS THAT CORRECT? THE ONLY PARKING THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE IS WITH THE BAPTIST CHURCH. OKAY. BUT I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PLANS TO TO REALLY DETERMINE THAT. AND LET'S SEE, I SCRIBBLED A WHOLE BUNCH OF NOTES. I THINK THE REST MAY BE ABLE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT SEGMENT. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS MEMBER MAYOR PRO TEM TOBIAS. OKAY. IF I CAN REMEMBER GOING BACK TO 2021, WE WERE ORIGINALLY TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD BOND WHEN THE VERBIAGE ON THE BOND ITSELF WAS STATING SIDEWALKS. THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ACTUAL. SIDEWALKS THAT WERE USED TO. WHEN WE WERE STARTING TO LOOK AT THE CONCEPT DESIGNS FOR THE ROADS THAT WE SELECTED WHEN WE WERE ATTENDING, THAT WHEN WE WERE HAVING THOSE OPEN HOUSES AND WE HAD THOSE MAPS IN FRONT OF US FROM CAFFREY'S, IT ACTUALLY WOULD STATE WHICH OF THE ROADS THAT WERE COMING IN, AND THOSE WERE THE SIDEWALKS THAT WERE TO BE DESIGNED ALONG WITH IT. AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO THE REASON WHY WE CAME UP, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER OF 294 MILLION WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE TIME WAS BECAUSE WE HAD A BREAKDOWN OF HOW MUCH EACH ROAD WAS GOING TO RUN US WITH THOSE DESIGN PLANS, WITH THOSE SIDEWALKS ADDED. NOTHING ABOUT TRAILS OR ADDITIONAL AND SO FORTH. IT WAS SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO THE SIDEWALKS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THE SEVEN ROADS.

BELIEVE IT WAS SEVEN ROADS THAT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE BOND TO VOTE ON. SO I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE WHEN YOU SEE THAT VERBIAGE OF SIDEWALKS, THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF ADDING THAT IN THERE, BECAUSE THOSE ROADS WE WERE GOING TO RECONSTRUCT BECAUSE IT WAS A MATTER OF, ARE WE GOING TO REPAIR THESE ROADS? BUT AT THE TIME, WE HAD OUR FORMER PUBLIC WORKS PERSON, I THINK IT WAS HARBOR WATERS. MOST OF THESE ROADS, ESPECIALLY EAST SIDE, WERE GOING TO NEED TO BE COMPLETELY GUTTED AND RECONSTRUCTED, AND THEN THE

[01:10:01]

OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION SOMETIMES ABOUT HOW MUCH THE ROAD BOND WAS SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR THE OVERALL VIBE SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT 110 AND A HALF MILES, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE LESS THAN TWO THIRDS OF THAT WAS GOING TO BE PAID FOR BY DEVELOPERS AS PART OF THE THE D, A S AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ABOUT A THIRD WAS GOING TO FALL ON THE CITY, BUT LESS THAN 8% WAS FACTORED INTO THE ROAD BOND. AS FAR AS AS HOW MUCH WE WERE GOING TO PUT TOWARDS THE VIBE SYSTEM. SO. YES, MAYOR PRO TEM THE, THE THEY DID BREAK IT DOWN BY EACH INDIVIDUAL ROAD PROJECT, BUT I REMEMBER ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD WITH JOE CANTALUPO WITH K FREEZE THERE. THERE WAS A VIBE COMPONENT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. AND YOU KNOW, YOU TO SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE'S CREDIT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS. THE CITY DID DO A LOT OF OUTREACH AT THE TIME. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD HAVE DONE MORE, BUT THE THERE THERE WAS A COMPONENT OF THAT FACTORED IN, BUT OF THE OVERALL VIBE TRAIL NETWORK, WHICH IS WHAT THIS ITEM IS DISCUSSING. THE VIBE OUT OF THE 22 ROAD BOND IS A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT, AND IT'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE DECADES BEFORE THIS ENTIRE NETWORK IS COMPLETED. THIS IS NOT A A SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL RUSHED TO COMPLETE BECAUSE IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO COMPLETE IT UNDER A RUSH TIMELINE. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THAT $3 MILLION NUMBER OF COST PER MILE? THAT WAS THE AVERAGE COST. BY PUTTING ALL OUR PROJECTS TOGETHER. AND WHAT WAS COMPOSED OF THAT, LIKE WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS THAT WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THAT? YES, MA'AM. SO TYPICALLY, WHENEVER YOU PUT TOGETHER A DESIGN PROJECT FOR A TRAIL SYSTEM OR ANY CIVIL ENGINEERING PROJECT THAT'S A ROAD OR A SIDEWALK OR WHAT HAVE YOU, YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT RIGHT OF WAY YOU NEED OR EASEMENTS. IF YOU NEED TO GRADE THE SITE, IF YOU NEED TO BUILD UP A CERTAIN SIDE OF IT WITH A LOW WALL, WHAT HAVE YOU. IF YOU NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR DRAINAGE. RE SEEDING THE SITE AFTER YOU DISTURB IT AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND ALSO RUNNING CONDUIT FOR FOR THE ELECTRICAL AND THE LIGHTING. OKAY, SO IT'S KIND OF SAFE TO SAY THAT REGARDLESS IF WE WERE DOING A 12 FOOT TRAIL OR A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK, SOME OF THOSE COSTS WOULD STILL BE OVERLAPPING. CORRECT. THAT COULD BE THE CASE, YES. BUT IF WE WERE STILL HAVING TO ACQUIRE LIKE EASEMENTS AND RIGHT OF WAY AND WHATNOT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT, OF COURSE IT WOULD SHIFT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH, BUT SOME OF THOSE COSTS WOULD STILL BE THE SAME. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO REALLY SPECIFY HERE. IN THIS CASE, ON MONDAY, AUGUST 21ST, THE MAYOR HAD SENT OVER A LIST OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIBE TRAIL, AND WE RECEIVED THE RESPONSES ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST. ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS WAS WHAT WOULD BE THE COST, ROUGHLY, OF BUILDING A VIBE TRAIL INSTEAD OF A SIDEWALK ON CENTER

[01:15:03]

BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS BEING STATED AS TO LIKE, WHO WOULD BE USING THIS TRAIL, WHO WOULD BE UTILIZING IT. AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT VARIOUS TYPES OF PEOPLE FROM VARIOUS INCOMES, FROM VARIOUS PLACES OF THE CITY WOULD BE UTILIZING THE TRAIL.

SO IT'S NOT THAT JUST ALL, ONLY PRIVILEGED PEOPLE WOULD BE USING IT. IT'S NOT THAT ALL, ONLY UNDERINVESTED AREAS WOULD BE USING IT. IT'S A MIX OF EVERYONE. AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, I UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION THAT MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED AROUND THE BOND LANGUAGE. WHAT IS THE VIBE TRAIL IF NOT A 12 FOOT SIDEWALK? THAT'S QUITE LITERALLY WHAT IT IS. AND THE ROAD BOND WAS MADE TO SUPPORT SIDEWALKS. I MEAN, WE CALLED IT A TRAIL, BUT JUST TAKE OUT THE VIBE TRAIL. IT IS A SIDEWALK. IT IS A 12 FOOT SIDEWALK. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS BEING CLEAR AND THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING POINTED OUT WITH THE ORDINANCE.

THIS COUNCIL IS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY THAT CAN CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE. I, FOR ONE, DON'T THINK GOLF CARTS SHOULD BE INCLUDED ON THERE. SO LIKE I FOR ONE, WOULD BE OPEN TO CHANGING THAT BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S SAFE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO. IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING WHERE REGARDLESS IF WE REMOVE THE GOLF CARTS OR NOT, THESE 12 FOOT SIDEWALKS ARE ALSO JUST RECOMMENDED FOR SAFETY REASONS. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADA ACCESSIBILITY, STROLLERS BEING ABLE TO PASS EACH OTHER AND WHATNOT WHILE STILL BEING ABLE TO MAKE SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LIKE THE HISTORIC NATURE OF DOWNTOWN.

AND I ABSOLUTELY ADORE THE UNIQUENESS THAT IS DOWNTOWN KYLE AND THE HISTORY THAT'S ASSOCIATED TO THAT. AND I THINK ONE OF THE BEST WAYS THAT WE APPRECIATE HISTORY IS BY GIVING PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO ACTUALLY ABSORB IT AND ACKNOWLEDGE IT. AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THEY HAVE A BLACK HISTORY MONTH BIKE RIDE THAT THEY DO THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO THEY WILL USE THE BIKE TRAILS AND GO TO THESE HISTORIC SITES WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WHERE THERE'S PLAQUES THAT HELP PEOPLE RECOGNIZE AND TEACH THEM ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO WERE THERE, WHO MADE IT WHAT IT WAS. SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT US BEING ABLE TO

[01:20:02]

THOSE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE BASED ON? IF WE ARE NOT CONTINUING WITH THE TRAIL, WILL THOSE AFFECT THOSE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS OR INTERSECTION ANALYZES? BECAUSE THE TRAIL WOULD HAVE FED INTO THAT INTERSECTION? I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I WOULD ASK THAT SOMEONE FROM LOCHNER COME UP, OR SOMEONE ON OUR ENGINEERING STAFF TO ANSWER THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. I THINK SHE'S ONLY TALKING ABOUT STAGECOACH AND. STAGECOACH AND CENTER, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PART THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A ROUNDABOUT. EVERYTHING ELSE IS SHOULDN'T BE AFFECTED AS FAR AS HAVING TO RECONSTRUCT. WELL, NO, BUT THE WHAT WE APPROVED ACTUALLY IS LOOKING AT ALL OF THE INTERSECTIONS AGAIN. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO JUST UNDERSTAND IF THERE IS GOING TO BE ANY IMPACT ON THAT, THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IF WE WERE TO CHANGE WHAT LEADS UP TO IT. I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THE I GUESS THE DECISION ON THE BIKE TRAIL AND THE ACTUAL INTERSECTION REEVALUATION ARE KIND OF DEPENDENT UPON EACH OTHER NECESSARILY. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN COMPONENT WITH AN INTERSECTION, WHETHER IT'S A ROUNDABOUT OR A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION OR WHATEVER, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THAT I MEAN, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT YOUR QUESTION IS EXACTLY, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THE TWO ARE NECESSARILY ENTIRELY INTERDEPENDENT. OKAY. BECAUSE A PART OF A BIG PART OF THE INTERSECTION ANALYSIS IS THE COST THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? SO I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THE BASIS FOR A LOT OF THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN, ARE BASED ON US HAVING A TRAIL RUNNING THROUGH THERE, RIGHT? SO IF WE CHANGE THAT, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE INTERSECTION ANALYSIS? I GUESS? I MEAN, WHETHER THERE'S A ROUNDABOUT OR LIKE I SAID, A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN COMPONENT THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO THE, I GUESS, WHATEVER THE ULTIMATE DESIGN IS. SO, YOU KNOW, AND AS FAR AS THE COSTS GO, I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE CROSSWALKS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A VIBE TRAIL CROSSING OR A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THOSE COMPONENTS TOO. SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S NECESSARILY GOING TO BE A, A SIGNIFICANT COST DIFFERENCE FOR THE INTERSECTION ITSELF, DEPENDING UPON WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE A TRAIL OR A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK. AND IN PARTICULAR ON THE OLD STAGECOACH ROAD AT CENTER STREET, THE TRAIL ACTUALLY RUNS DOWN. WE'LL CALL IT THE. THE NORTH SIDE OF CENTER STREET AND KIND OF HUGS THAT CORNER GOING DOWN OLD STAGECOACH ROAD. SO THE TRAIL ITSELF DOESN'T NECESSARILY CROSS WITHIN THE INTERSECTION ITSELF, WHETHER IT'S A ROUNDABOUT OR A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION. SO YES, THERE WOULD BE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS, SIDEWALK CROSSINGS, BUT IT'S NOT A TRAIL CROSSING WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR ROUNDABOUT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO UNFORESEEN COSTS. POSSIBLY. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO. SO IS A 12 FOOT TRAIL REQUIRED BY THE 22 2022 ROAD BOND, OR WHAT WAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR SIDEWALKS IN THAT BOND, DO YOU RECALL? I DON'T I DON'T RECALL. OKAY, SO IF COUNCIL SELECTS THE SIX FOOT SIDEWALK TONIGHT, WILL THE CENTER STREET AND OLD STAGECOACH STILL FULFILL THE STREET AND SIDEWALK PROJECTS AUTHORIZED BY THE BOND? I WOULD SAY THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY YES. OKAY, SO IF WE WEREN'T DESIGNATING THIS AS A VIBE CORRIDOR, WOULD CITY RECOMMEND A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK VERSUS THE 12? THE CITY'S MINIMUM SIDEWALK WIDTH? THAT'S NOT. VIBE IS FIVE FEET. OKAY, SO THEN A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK WOULD BE RECOMMENDED. I IT'S WHAT THE SUBDIVISION CODE STATES. OKAY. AND SO ARE

[01:25:11]

IT'S I CAN'T MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. OKAY. AND THEN ONE OF MY BIG UNDERSTANDINGS IS THAT WE IF WE GO WITH THE 12 FOOT SIDEWALK, WE HAVE TO UNDERGROUND THE UTILITIES. AND SO IT'S NOT JUST THE SAVINGS OF THE CONCRETE FOR THE DIFFERENCE, IT'S THE SAVINGS OF THE UNDERGROUNDING AS WELL. IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT I DO KNOW IS IF WE GO WITH THE 12 FOOT SIDEWALK, WE DO HAVE TO UNDERGROUND THE UTILITIES. I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE SAVINGS. DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH WE'VE ALREADY SPENT ON UNDERGROUNDING UTILITIES? AT THIS POINT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WANT TO PREFACE WITH THE FACT THAT I KNOW WILL WAS NOT IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DURING THE TIME. YES. I MEAN, WE'RE ASKING HIM A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I'VE BEEN AROUND ENOUGH AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WILL, YOU WERE NOT PROBABLY MUCH INVOLVED WITH THE VIBE AT THAT TIME. SO WE ARE ASKING YOU QUESTIONS AND I'M SURE YOU'RE LIKE, I WISH I KNEW THAT ANSWER. SO I GIVE YOU GRACE FOR THAT. OKAY, SO I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON MY LONG LIST. I WILL BE NICE AND I WILL BE UNDERSTANDING IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS. FIRST AND FOREMOST, CAN YOU GO BACK TO NUMBER FOUR? SLIDE FOUR, PLEASE? HOPE YOU PASSED IT. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. WAS THAT THE VIBE MAP SHOWN DURING THE AUGUST 9TH TO OR THE AUGUST TO NOVEMBER 20TH 22ND ADVERTISING BEFORE THE THE BOND WAS ISSUED OR PUT ON THE BALLOT? NO, THIS IS THE 110 MILE VERSION VERSUS THE 82 TO 85 VERSION. OKAY. AND DID WE HAVE A VERSION OF THE 80 OR 82 THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE WHO KEPT UP WITH THE BOND? WE CAN FIND ONE AND WE CAN PROVIDE IT TO Y'ALL IF THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL WANT. OKAY. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT WAS BEING. SO I WENT BACK AND I WATCHED THE JULY 7TH AND THE JULY 28TH, 2022 K FREEZE PRESENTATIONS. NONE OF THEM HAVE IN THE BACKUP. HAVE ANY MENTION OF THE VIBE WHATSOEVER.

THERE'S BEEN THERE WAS TALK OF THE VIBE AND THAT WE FOUND IN THE MINUTES, BUT I DID NOT FIND ANYTHING AS FAR AS IN THE PRESENTATIONS FROM JOE THAT SUPPORTED THAT THE VIBE WAS GOING TO BE. NOT THAT I'M SAYING IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE. CLEARLY THERE WAS TALK OF IT.

NOTHING WAS PUT IN THE PRESENTATION. BUT IF WE COULD SEE THAT OR VERIFY THAT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE UNDERSTANDING. HOW DID IT GO FROM 80 TO 110 MILES WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2025 PROS MASTER PLAN, THE PARKS AND RECREATION OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, THAT'S WHERE IT EXPANDED FROM 82 TO 110. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY EXPANDED THAT? IT WAS PROBABLY BASED ON THE DESIGN TEAMS. OKAY. PUT TOGETHER REALLY, WHO WAS THE DESIGN TEAM? URBAN ALCHEMY COLLECTIVE. HOW ABOUT FROM THE CITY? WHO WAS PART OF THAT DESIGN TEAM? I SUSPECT BECAUSE I CAME IN AT THE TAIL END CLOSE TO THE ADOPTION OF THE PROS MASTER PLAN. BUT I THINK IT'S A LOT OF OUR FORMER EMPLOYEES THAT AREN'T PART OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ANYMORE. SO NEW EMPLOYEES. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT THE RESIDENTS? DID WE HAVE DID WE HAVE A BOARD OR COMMISSION THAT HELPED KIND OF GUIDE THE TRAIL AND WHERE IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE CITY OF KYLE? I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER. OKAY. DO WE KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF IS THERE A PARK? BESIDES, IF THERE WAS A COMMISSION OF ANY, WAS IT EVER PRESENTED TO THE PARKS BOARD? YES. WAS IT LIKE. YEAH. WELL, I BELIEVE ELEMENTS WENT THROUGH THE PARKS BOARD. I CAN DOUBLE CHECK. BUT SPECIFICALLY, MAYOR, A COMMISSION PUT TOGETHER TO EVALUATE IT AS IT WAS BEING REDRAWN IN THE PROS MASTER PLAN. NO. OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHY THIS VIBE ISN'T IN THE TRANSPORTATION? LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION PART OF THE ORDINANCES? BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION.

LIKE WE CAN TAKE THIS INSTEAD OF TAKING CARS. IT IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY IT IS A RECREATIONAL TRAIL SYSTEM, OKAY. WHICH IS WHY IT FALLS UNDER OUR PARKS AND NOT UNDER. OKAY. SO,

[01:30:04]

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. BECAUSE I SAW THAT IN THE 2022 2023 BUDGET. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT ON THAT, BUT THAT IS PART OF THE BOND. MONEY WAS THE NICE LONGER THAN 12FT. SIDEWALKS, MULTI-USE PATHS. DO WE KNOW THE COST OF THAT SIDEWALK? I PERSONALLY DO NOT. OKAY, YEAH. MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE NUMBERS COMING, YOU KNOW, COMING TO COUNCIL SO WE CAN HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF HOW MUCH HAS BEEN SPENT, YOU KNOW, HOW DEDICATED WE'VE BEEN IN THE PAST. OKAY. NOW, YOU STATED EARLIER THE ONLY PARKING PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WAS A BAPTIST CHURCH. CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT GOING TO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY CENTER STREET ON THE SIDE OF CITY HALL. IT'S NOT A RIGHT RIGHT HERE. IT'S NOT EXTENDING THAT FAR. IT'S NOT EXTENDING THAT FAR. THANK YOU.

SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS VIBE AND THE PLANNING UP UNTIL NOW HAS BEEN TO TURN ON MAIN STREET.

IT IS TO TURN NORTH ON NORTH BURLESON AND SOUTH ON SOUTH BURLESON AND SKIRT THE THE SQUARE AND GO SOUTH ON MAIN. OKAY, I NEED TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR BECAUSE UP UNTIL NOW THERE HAS BEEN NO PLAN TO CROSS THE BRIDGE OR TO GO ACROSS TO 35 TO 150 WEST EAST. IS THAT CORRECT? THERE IS A. AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO ARGUE THERE IS A FUTURE IDENTIFIED PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, MAYBE EVEN FOR CYCLISTS ACROSS CENTER STREET IN THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN. BUT THERE IS NO MONEY IDENTIFIED TO FUND THAT. OKAY. AND IS THAT GOING TO BE THE VIBE OR IS THAT A PEDESTRIAN WALK? IT IS NOT THE VIBE. OKAY, SO BUT THAT'S SO I'M SPEAKING TO THE VIBE AND SPECIFIC BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT GET THE TWO MIXED.

BECAUSE IF I'M ASKING YOU, CAN I DRIVE A GOLF CART ON THE VIBE PAST THE BRIDGE? THAT'S GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT FACTOR FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT OUR CITY IS PLANNING FOR THAT OR HAS PLANNED FOR THAT. THAT'S I JUST NEED TO MAKE THIS CLEAR, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION. AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE ME.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M NOT SAYING IT OR STATING IT IN THE RIGHT WAY. BUT WHEN I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO RESIDENTS, THIS IS THIS HAS NOT BEEN THE PLAN. AND HONESTLY, THE PLAN HAS BEEN POORLY PLANNED. AND THAT'S OF NO, I'M NOT BLAMING YOU. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DO WE EVEN HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT OVERSEES THE VIBE? DO WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER WHO WHO OVERSEES THE VIBE? DO YOU KNOW IT IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND IT DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT AND THE LOCATION OF IT GEOGRAPHICALLY. SO YES. SO THE QUESTION THE THE PROBLEM CAN BE SOMETIMES THE LEFT HAND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT HAND IS DOING. AND INSTEAD OF HAVING DEDICATED STAFF AND A DEDICATED DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE IT KIND OF MIXED OUT EVERYWHERE. MY HOPE IS THAT WILL CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, AND THAT WE COULD HAVE DEDICATED PEOPLE SO WE CAN ALL BE ON THE SAME THE SAME PAGE.

[01:35:05]

BECAUSE I DO WANT TO GO BACK. I THINK THERE WAS A RESIDENT WHO HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE COST OF THE SIX FOOT VERSUS THE 12 FOOT, AND THAT WAS STATED IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL, AND IT WAS THE COST DIFFERENCE. SO THAT INFORMATION IS OUT THERE. AND I THINK THEY HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER. WHAT ONE WAS HOW MUCH DOES IT HOW MUCH DOES IT HAS IT COST FOR THE CITY ALREADY? HOW MUCH HAVE WE PAID FOR UNDER UNDERLINING THE UTILITIES? AND THE OTHER ONE WAS, WHAT IS THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE 3 MILLION COST PER MILE? DID CAN I. YEAH. WELL IF YOU COULD. WELL I DON'T REALLY WANT TO. I'M SORRY. LET LET ME TRY TO ANSWER THE PC QUESTION. AS FAR AS THE COST THAT WE'VE WE'VE INCURRED TODAY TO DATE, I GUESS THAT'S APPROXIMATELY $6 MILLION. SO THAT INCLUDES THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH PSC FOR THEIR THEIR PRELIMINARY SCHEMATIC WORK AND THEIR ADDITIONAL DESIGN WORK, AND ALSO WHAT WE CALLED PHASE THREE AGREEMENTS, WHICH COVERED SOME OF THE LONG LEAD EQUIPMENT PURCHASES FROM. AND THAT'S ALL FOR CENTER STREET. NO, THAT'S FROM A PROGRAM. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I THINK I THINK THE QUESTION IS JUST CENTER STREET, JUST CENTER STREET. IT'S APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 1.19, ONE POINT. SO 1.2 MILLION. AND THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT DEPENDING ON OUR ADDITIONAL, I GUESS, DISCUSSIONS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH PSC, THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE TO. BE AS AN EXPENSE FOR SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT. IF WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATE WITH PSC AND THEY WOULD TAKE THAT EQUIPMENT BACK. SO THERE WAS A PRE PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT FOR FOR THE CENTER STREET ON AND FOR THE CENTER STREET OFF THAT THAT COULD GO BACK TO PSC. AND SO THAT COULD COME OFF THE ACTUAL COSTS. OKAY. AND THEN.

HAS THE CITY YET SPOKEN TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION? HAS THE CITY SPOKEN TO THE HAYS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION? YEAH, I THINK WE WERE GOING TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU WHAT I KNOW NOW. THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT WAS THE BUDGETED AMOUNT FROM THE 2022 BOND BUDGET AMOUNT FOR FOR THE VIBE, FOR THE VIBE. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT IT WAS PUT IN THERE FOR THE VIBE. IS IT, IS IT IN THERE FOR THE VIBE PRESENTATION SAID 24 MILLION, I DON'T KNOW, PRESENTATIONS BEFORE THE BOND, BUT I WAS JUST SAYING IT'S IT WAS IN TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION. YES. SO MY CONCERN IS WHAT WE PRESENTED OR WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH K FREEZE DURING THE CREATION OF THE BOND VERSUS WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED NOW.

BECAUSE BEFORE, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BOND DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS, IT WAS $4 MILLION. BUT SOMEHOW THAT AMOUNT AND NOR THE VIBE IN GENERAL MADE IT TO THE BOND LANGUAGE. AND SO THAT FOR ME IS A BIT OF A FRUSTRATION BECAUSE IT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION SLASH ARGUMENT BETWEEN ME AND THE PREVIOUS MAYOR, WHICH I THEN LED TO A MOTION TO INCLUDE IT IN THE BOND. AND FOR SOME REASON IT NEVER MADE IT INTO THE LANGUAGE. SO FOR MANY, THERE'S A FRUSTRATION OF HOW DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH IS ALLOCATED FOR THAT? I MEAN, WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE ROADS BY ROAD, BUT WE DON'T. IS DOES THAT AMOUNT INCLUDE THE VIBE? IT WOULD HAVE INCLUDED THE THE VIBE, THE SIDEWALK OR WHATEVER ELEMENT WAS IN THOSE YEARS, THOSE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORTS. SO BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION. THERE WAS LIKE NO SET AMOUNT. I DON'T I DON'T RECALL, UNFORTUNATELY, I WASN'T A PART OF THAT AT THAT TIME.

BUT I DON'T I DON'T RECALL ANYBODY SAYING THAT THERE WAS SPECIFIC CONVERSATION ON WHAT THE EXACT COST OF THE VIBE TRAIL WAS BACK IN 2022, BUT THEN AGAIN, I WAS NOT A PART OF THAT. SO I GET IT. OKAY, WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. AND I JUST WANT THE RESIDENTS TO KNOW THAT THIS IS I FEEL LIKE WE'RE CLEANING UP YET ANOTHER MESS. YOU KNOW, I KNOW KYLE SIGLER IS

[01:40:02]

MAYOR, IF YOU'D LIKE, I PULLED UP THE GOLF CART ORDINANCE AS WE'RE TALKING, AND THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS NO, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED ON SIDEWALKS, OKAY? GOLF CARTS ARE ALLOWED ON CITY STREETS WITH A SPEED LIMIT OF 35MPH OR LESS. PUBLIC HIGHWAY WHEN ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW, A PARKING AREA OR A TRAILWAY AND THE TRAILWAY IS DEFINED AS CITY OWNED AND MAINTAINED RECREATIONAL PATHWAYS, AS SHOWN ON THE TRAIL MAP THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THAT ORDINANCE. 1138 PERFECT. OKAY. I JUST I NEED PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S MORE THAN THERE'S MORE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SIDEWALK, WHICH WAS REFERENCED IN THE BOND VERSUS THE VIBE, WHICH IS I DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT. I MEAN, IT'S A MULTI-USE PATH, BUT IT'S SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO SEE IT JUST AS A SIDEWALK. AND SO YEAH, MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOUGH DECISIONS. BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WILL AT LEAST NOT SITTING DIRECTLY CLOSE TO ME IS A IS OPPOSED TO THE TO THE VIBE.

AND NOR DO THEY WANT TO STOP THE VIBE. YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE SAY, DON'T KILL THE VIBE, DON'T STOP IT. THAT IS NOT MY INTENT AT ALL. I'VE BEEN ON BOARD WITH THIS SINCE 2021, AND I INTEND TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT IT. I DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE WITH ALL SEGMENTS, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST BE WILLING TO ACCEPT SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND. THE ADVICE FROM MY HUSBAND, IF I CAN EXPLAIN IT, I SHOULDN'T DO IT. AND AT THIS POINT, I CAN'T EXPLAIN A VAST MAJORITY OF THIS, OF THIS VIBE, AND ESPECIALLY GOING DOWN CENTER STREET, GOING TO 30, 30 PAST 35 ONTO AN AREA OFF OF RIGHT PAST LEHMAN THAT HAS ZERO SIDEWALKS. YOU GO UP TO THE TXP, YOU'RE FINE. BUT THEN WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? TURN AROUND AND COME RIGHT BACK THIS WAY? BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY. NOT THAT PEOPLE DON'T DO IT. IT DOESN'T MAKE ME COMFORTABLE. BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS SEGMENT, THAT THE OTHER SIDE SHOULD ALREADY BE COMPLETED AND READY TO CONNECT. SO I DON'T KNOW. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. SO I WAS ABLE TO PULL UP. IT'S A STORY MAP IN ARCGIS FROM NOVEMBER 30TH, 2022, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE ROAD BOND PROJECT. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING STRINGENT AND ONLY ADHERING TO WHAT VOTERS APPROVED AND WHAT THEY KNEW ABOUT IN THE ROAD BOND PROJECT, IN THE ROAD BOND PROJECTS, WE TALK ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS AND INSTALLING ROUNDABOUTS. COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS DAIS DIDN'T LIKE THEM, SO NOW WE'RE RELOOKING AT THEM. BUT THAT'S WHAT VOTERS WERE PROMISED ON THE CENTER STREET. THEY SPECIFICALLY LIST OVERHEAD ELECTRIC UTILITY CONVERSION TO UNDERGROUND. THAT'S WHAT VOTERS APPROVED. BUT NOW THIS COUNCIL IS THINKING ABOUT CHANGING IT. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND A HARD TIME ABOUT IS WHY IT IS THAT THERE IS BEING SUCH A DOUBLE STANDARD PLACED ON WHERE IT IS THAT WE'RE DECIDING TO SAY, WELL, WE MUST ADHERE TO THE ROAD BOND LANGUAGE, AND THEN IN OTHER AREAS, IT'S COMPLETELY FORGIVEN. SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE LISTED ALL THROUGHOUT THIS ROAD BOND THAT ARE BEING CHANGED AND BEING DISCUSSED AND RELOOKED AT WHICH, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST BEING NITPICKY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING WHEN WE CHOOSE TO WEAPONIZE WHAT WHAT WE MUST BE TRUE TO. BECAUSE IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WE WOULD HAVE THE ROUNDABOUTS. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WE WOULD CONTINUE WITH THE ELECTRIC ELECTRIC UTILITY UNDERGROUNDING. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS JUST PUT OUT THERE, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S NECESSARY IN ORDER TO HELP REFRAME SOME OF THE CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENING. AND THAT WAS LIKE THE LAST PART THAT I ADDED. RIGHT. PEREZ, DID YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE ROBOT LANGUAGE? NO, MAYOR. NOT WITH

[01:45:01]

THEY COULD GO BACK AND CHANGE EVERY ONE OF THE ROADS THAT'S ON THAT ROAD BOND, BECAUSE NONE OF THEM WERE SPECIFIED IN THE LANGUAGE. MAY I HAVE IT UP? IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO READ IT OUT, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $294 MILLION FOR STREETS, BRIDGES AND SIDEWALKS AND THE LIVING OF A TAX AND PAYMENT THEREOF, THAT'S WHAT WAS ON THE BALLOT.

THAT'S WHAT. SO WHEN YOU GO IN THERE AND YOU TALK ABOUT YOU WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT AT THE BALLOT AND YOU DON'T WANT TO TRICK, IN ESSENCE, THE VOTER. THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT PEOPLE VOTED FOR, THAT VERY VAGUE LANGUAGE. AND LOOK, SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, YEAH, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT IT DURING THE MEETING. I CAN TELL YOU AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I KNOW PEOPLE DO NOT WATCH ALL THE MEETINGS. AND IN IN THE ADVERTISEMENT, WHICH I HAVE THE SAME ADVERTISEMENT AT HOME, THE BIG YELLOW SIGNS THAT WENT UP ALL OVER EAST KYLE AND THEN THE BIG YELLOW POSTCARDS THAT EVERYBODY RECEIVED. THEY COULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE VIBE, BUT WHAT DID THEY TALK ABOUT? ROADS, TRAFFIC. I WAS ONE OF THEM. I RECEIVED ALL OF IT. SO MY POINT TO WHAT WAS ON THE BOND IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION AND WHAT'S BEEN PUT UP. SINCE. WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK, IT COULD BE WHAT IT IS. MY WHOLE IDEA OF BEING FAIR TO THE TAXPAYERS IS TO GIVE THEM BETTER BOND LANGUAGE. WE DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB THIS TIME, AND OUR AMAZING INTERIM CITY MANAGER HAS ACCEPTED THE 18 MONTH PROCESS FOR FUTURE BONDS.

IF ANYBODY FOLLOWED THE 2022 BOND, IT WAS FINALIZED IN AUGUST AND WENT ON A ON A BALLOT ON NOVEMBER. AUGUST TO NOVEMBER. ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT'S SUCH A STRAW MAN ARGUMENT. AND IT'S SUCH AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION OF ALSO WHAT STATE STATUTE AND NORMS THAT EXIST IN ALL MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS TEXAS. THE REASON THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE IT INTENTIONALLY VAGUE AT TIMES IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THAT FLEXIBILITY IN ORDER TO GET THE NUANCES OF THE PROJECT OUT THERE. AND THEN YOU PRESENT A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS WITHIN THOSE OPEN HOUSES, WITHIN THOSE PRESENTATIONS. SO I JUST I'M TIRED OF THAT ARGUMENT BEING USED AND WEAPONIZED AS IF IT'S NOT A COMMON ALSO REQUIRED PART OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN SEND A REQUEST TO THE AG'S OFFICE TO SEE IF THAT BOND LANGUAGE QUALIFIES FOR THE TRAILS OR FOR THE VIBE? I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I. I AGREE, IT'S SILLINESS. IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE AG CHIME IN AND TELL US WHAT HE THINKS, HOW IT. MAYBE IT'S FINE. MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, YES, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD A 400 MILLION, $300 MILLION SEGMENT AND ONLY PUT IT ON SIDEWALKS. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF YOU ALL GIVE US THE DIRECTION TO REQUEST THAT OPINION FROM THE AG'S OFFICE, WE WILL FOLLOW UP. YEAH, THOSE WERE SOME OF MY CONCERNS AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS IS TECHNICALLY LISTED AS RECREATION. IT'S UNDER PARKS AND RECREATION, AND IT'S AN ORDINANCE UNDER ITS OWN. AND SO IT'S NOT CLEARLY A SIDEWALK.

EVEN OUR OWN LANGUAGE SEEMS TO DELINEATE IT FROM THAT. AND SO IF IT'S PARKS AND RECREATION DOES A ROAD BOND, WHICH IS TRANSPORTATION AUTHORIZE THE EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS FOR THAT? I MEAN, THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE. WELL, THEN WE CAN AMEND THE ORDINANCE. THE THING IS, WHETHER OR NOT YOU CALL IT A MULTI USE PATH OR SIDEWALK, IT IS STILL USED AS MULTIPLE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION, LIKE REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU WANT TO SPIN IT, THE EXACT WORDING THAT YOU WANT TO USE TO CALL IT, PEOPLE WILL STILL UTILIZE IT TO WALK, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY A FORM OF TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE YOU GET FROM PLACE TO PLACE, PEOPLE WILL STILL USE IT TO BIKE BECAUSE IT'S STILL A FORM OF TRANSPORTATION, BECAUSE YOU GET FROM PLACE TO PLACE. SO REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU WANT TO SPIN IT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. SO IF WE NEED TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS WHOLE TIME, THEN WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? THAT

[01:50:02]

WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS INCORRECT. SO WHEN I SPEAK TO MY RESIDENTS, I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM THE MOST INFORMATIVE, TRUTHFUL ANSWER THAT I HAVE. IF YOU'RE QUESTIONING WHETHER OR NOT A SIDEWALK IS A MULTI USE PATH, THERE'S ONE SOLUTION TO THAT.

WE CAN HAVE THE AG LOOK AT THAT AND WE CAN ASK THEM IF YOU ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT UPDATING THE ORDINANCE THEN PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA. YOU HAVE THAT AUTHORITY. YOU SAT HERE AND JUST SAID, I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. WELL THEN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE FOR ALL OF THIS THEN TO HAPPEN. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE FOR US TO SEND TO THE AG'S OFFICE. WE JUST UPDATE THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

IS THAT LIKE, INSTEAD OF GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHAT WE DO HERE, WHY DON'T WE JUST UPDATE THE ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO HELP MATCH WHAT WE BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE AND COULD BE IN ORDER TO ALIGN WITH THE ROAD BOND? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO? YOU WANT ME TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THAT BACK SO THAT WE CAN AMEND THE ORDINANCE AND UPDATE IT. SECOND. IS THAT. YEAH, BUT THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER HAS POINTED OUT WE HAVEN'T POSTED ANYTHING ON THAT ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY. WE ARE WE CAN ACCEPT A DIRECTION TO PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA. OKAY. CAN WE BRING THAT BACK TO BE PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION? YEAH. SHE DOESN'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. RIGHT. SHE COULD JUST YEAH. I MEAN, I'M PUTTING ON THE AGENDA. YEAH, I THINK WE'RE FINE. OKAY. RESCIND THAT MOTION AND THEN WE'LL JUST BRING IT BACK AS DIRECTION FOR DISCUSSION. CLARIFICATION REGARDING REQUEST OF AG. ARE WE DROPPING THAT OR DO YOU LET'S GO AHEAD. COUNCIL GIVING US DIRECTION TO DO THAT. WELL HERE'S MY FEAR IS THAT I DON'T WANT THE AG TO COME BACK AND SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THIS BECAUSE THAT'S I'M NOT TRYING TO DESTROY THE VIBE. I'M WHAT MY POINT TO THAT WAS, AND I KNOW SOMEBODY ELSE MAY WANT TO PUT IT ON, DO THAT. MY POINT WAS TO PROVE LIKE, IS THIS WAS THAT REALLY FAIR LANGUAGE TO PUT IN THE BOND? AND WHEN PEOPLE SAY, OH, NO, IT'S I'M WEAPONIZING IT. IT'S NOT A WEAPON. I KNEW IT IN 2022. IT WAS A BAD IDEA. I WAS LIKE, NO, THIS IS NOT TRANSPARENT ENOUGH FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I WANTED THAT BOND TO BE STRONG ENOUGH THAT RESIDENTS KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE GETTING. AND NOW WE'RE $55 MILLION SHORT IF WE PROCEED. IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO BE $32 MILLION SHORT. AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ROADS WE GOT TO CUT OUT BECAUSE WE DID NOT PROPERLY PLAN IT. SO IF WE WANT AN AG OPINION, I THINK MAYBE WE WAIT UNTIL WE UPDATE THE ORDINANCE. I AGREE THIS ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED. I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE GOLF CARTS ON THERE, BUT WITHOUT GOLF CARTS ON THERE, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE 12FT EITHER. THE WHOLE REASON WHY THEY WANTED IT TO BE 12FT WAS FOR THE GOLF CARTS. AND SO I ACTUALLY STILL HAVE ONE MORE OR TWO MORE QUESTIONS. ARE WE ADHERING WELL TO THE RIGHT OF WAY REQUIREMENT FOR THE VIBE? BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENT IS 20FT. YES. SO WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT OR IT'S RIGHT OF WAY THAT IS DEEDED OVER TO US, WE ASK FOR 20FT. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT IS THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR A SIDEWALK? A STANDARD SIDEWALK IS TYPICALLY PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR A STREET. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE STREET.

SO CENTER STREET IS AN 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. SO TYPICALLY THAT WOULD FIT WITHIN THAT 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. IF IT'S JUST A STANDARD SIDEWALK, OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SIDEWALK AND A MULTI-USE PATH, EVEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. PEREZ, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US? AND I DO LET ME BRING THIS UP TO YOU BECAUSE, LOOK, COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS IS NOT HERE. AND WE KNEW SHE WASN'T GOING TO BE HERE. AND SHE'S ASKED US COLLECTIVELY TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO WAIT FOR ANY VOTES. I GO AHEAD, MAYOR, ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE IS JUST SIMPLY A REPORT TO COUNCIL, AN

[01:55:02]

[III.2) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and consider possible action approving a Resolution regarding the scope reevaluation of the Center Street on-system and off-system projects included in the 2022 Road Bond Program, including: Selecting either the proposed 12-foot-wide Vybe Trail or a 6-foot-wide sidewalk; Determining whether electrical utilities should be relocated underground or remain overhead; and Authorizing the Interim City Manager to exceed the original project budget by an amount established by the City Council to implement the approved project scope. ]

LEON BARBA, CITY ENGINEER. WITH ME TONIGHT IS LET ME MAKE SURE I PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME CORRECTLY, ESTEFANIA BARRETO, SHE'S WITH THE TERRACON. THEY'RE THE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT AND ALSO RICK KLATT. HE'S WITH LAUTNER. ON THE PROJECT BACKGROUND. AS PART OF THE 2022 ROAD BOND PROJECTS, THE CENTER STREET PROJECT WILL IMPROVE THE ROAD FROM OLD STAGECOACH TO MAIN STREET. THE PROJECT IS DIVIDED INTO TWO SEGMENTS. WE HAVE THE CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM, WHICH IS FROM OLD STAGECOACH ROAD TO VETERANS DRIVE. WE HAVE CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM, WHICH IS VETERANS DRIVE TO MAIN STREET JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS. ALL SYSTEM JUST MEANS THAT THE CITY OWNS THAT ROADWAY ON SYSTEM MEANS THAT TXDOT HAS CONTROL OVER THAT ROADWAY. PRIOR COUNCIL HISTORY ON AUGUST 27TH OF 26, PRESENTATION WAS GIVEN TO COUNCIL TO REVIEW THE PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE, PROPERTY IMPACTS AND POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS ON THE CENTER STREET CORRIDOR. COUNCIL DECIDED TO PAUSE UNTIL THE THREE ITEMS REVIEWED WERE REVIEWED. PROVIDE A RESPONSE ON THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION REVIEW, FIVE TRAIL ORDINANCE REVIEW AND THE FIVE TRAIL PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS JUST COMPLETED. TONIGHT. WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE FINAL DESIGN FEATURES FOR THE CENTER STREET OFFICE SYSTEM AND FOR THE CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PROJECT, INCLUDING SELECTING EITHER A PROPOSED 12 FOOT WIDE TRAIL OR A SIX FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK. DETERMINE WHETHER ELECTRICAL UTILITIES SHOULD BE RELOCATED UNDERGROUND OR REMAIN OVERHEAD, AND AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXCEED THE ORIGINAL BUDGET BY AN AMOUNT ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT THE APPROVED PROJECT SCOPE. LET ME START WITH THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION QUESTION. THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP THAT REVIEWED THIS IS WITH TXDOT. THEY. WE GOT THEIR APPROVAL ON JANUARY OF 28 OF 25, AND WE GAVE THIS PROJECT A CATEGORICAL EXCLUSION ON THE PROJECT THAT WAS BEING DONE. I'M GOING TO CALL IT NEPA. THERE ARE THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT OF 1970 REQUIRES THAT YOU REVIEW THESE PROJECTS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THAT. THAT'S A CATEGORICAL EXCLUSION, WHICH IS TYPICALLY USED FOR ROAD WIDENINGS MINOR, MINOR THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON THE ROAD, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH. BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT BASED ON TXDOT'S REVIEW OF THEY, THEY, THEY DETERMINED THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT DIRECTLY, INDIRECTLY OR CUMULATIVELY, CUMULATIVELY CAUSE ANY SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS TO ANY NATURAL, CULTURAL, RECREATIONAL, HISTORIC, OR OTHER RESOURCE.

KATHERINE ANNE PORTER HOUSE. AND THIS IS PART OF THE REVIEW THAT WAS DONE. IT'S LOCATED OUTSIDE THEIR AREA OF POTENTIAL EFFECT. THAT'S HOW THEY DETERMINED THAT AREA. THERE ARE NO ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES OR HISTORIC RESOURCES THAT ARE RECORDED IN THAT AP OR AREA.

POTENTIAL EFFECT DUE TO THE EXTENSIVE PRIOR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, UTILITY, RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL DISTURBANCE, THE POTENTIAL FOR INTACT ARCHEOLOGICAL DEPOSITS WITHIN THE APP ARE CONSIDERED LOW. THERE ARE NO FURTHER ARCHEOLOGICAL SURVEYS THAT RECOMMENDED. AS YOU KNOW, KATHERINE ANNE PORTER HOUSE IS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AND IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT. THERE'S A SECTION 106 THAT IS IN THE PART OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1966.

[02:00:01]

AT THE TOP YOU HAVE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR PROPOSED CONDITIONS AND THIS WOULD BE YOUR PROPOSED CONDITION WITH REVISED PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AT THE BOTTOM. ON SYSTEM. SAME THING. EXISTING CONDITIONS AT THE TOP PROPOSED IN THE MIDDLE, AND THE PROPOSED CONDITION WITH REVISED PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES. AND LEAVE. YOU SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE SAVINGS THAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH IF WE DECIDE TO GO BACK TO SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AND DECIDE TO KEEP THE UTILITIES OVERHEAD. I'LL GO THROUGH THE OPTIONS. OPTION IS ONE IS TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN PLANS FOR THE TRAIL, UNDERGROUND UTILITIES FOR THE CENTER STREET SYSTEM AND CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PROJECTS OF THE 2022 BOND PROGRAM, AND AUTHORIZES INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXCEED THE BUDGET. OPTION TWO APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE TRAIL AND MOVING UTILITIES FROM UNDERGROUND TO OVERHEAD FOR THE CENTER STREET.

ALL SYSTEM AND CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PROJECTS OF THE 2022 BOND PROGRAM, AND AUTHORIZES INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXCEED THE BUDGET. OPTION THREE APPROVE A RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MAINTAINING A TRAIL AS IS, MAINTAINING UTILITIES OVERHEAD AND AUTHORIZING THE USE OF EMINENT DOMAIN, IF NECESSARY, FOR UTILITY EASEMENTS DURING THE ACQUISITION PROCESS FOR THE CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM PROJECTS OF THE 2022 BOND PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXCEED THE BUDGET.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS SLIDE WAS NOT IN YOUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION THAT WAS POSTED.

WE PREPARED THIS TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR FROM YOU AS YOU DELIBERATE ON THE DECISION THAT YOU WANT MOVING FORWARD. LET ME KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS AND TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU. WE SPLIT IT UP INTO CENTER STREET, OFF SYSTEM AND CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE COSTS ARE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE. OPTION ONE, OF COURSE, IS THE 12 FOOT TRAIL AND UTILITIES. AS WE HAVE BEEN DESIGNING IT ON TO START WITH CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM. ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU SEE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET. IT'S THE SAME FOR ALL THREE OPTIONS, OF COURSE, 12.3 MILLION IN THE MIDDLE. THE ADDITIONAL COST. THAT'S WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AS IS.

AND THEN AT THE RIGHT THE TOTAL. THAT'S OF COURSE ADDING UP COLUMNS ONE AND TWO ON CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM. WE DID THE SAME THING THERE. THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS 10.2 MILLION. FOR EXAMPLE, AN OPTION ONE. THE ADDITIONAL COST WOULD BE 1.8 MILLION AND THE TOTAL WOULD BE 12 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT TO HAVE IT COMPLETED TONIGHT. THE DILEMMA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FACE IS SUPPOSING YOU CHOOSE OPTION ONE AS YOUR RECOMMENDATION. IF YOU CHOSE OPTION ONE, THE COST THAT WE ARE GOING TO EXCEED THE BUDGET BY IS A COMBINATION OF 16.7 AND 1.8 MILLION. THAT'S A TOTAL OF 18.5 MILLION. IF YOU CHOOSE OPTION THREE, YOU TAKE THAT 11.9 AND 2.3 MILLION AND THAT COMES UP TO 12.2 MILLION. SO THAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE TO DECIDE WHICH OPTION WE WANT TO MOVE TO. IT IS POSSIBLE YOU COULD CHOOSE OPTION ONE ON THE OFF SYSTEM. YOU COULD CHOOSE OPTION TWO OR MAYBE OPTION THREE ON THE ON SYSTEM. AND SO WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS YOU'D DO THE SAME THING. YOU WOULD TAKE THOSE NUMBERS AND ADD THEM, AND THAT WOULD TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED THE BUDGET. I'M HOPING THAT'S CLEAR.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE NOW WE'RE SEEING A TOTAL MAYBE I'M DOING THE MATH WRONG, $41 MILLION FOR THIS WHOLE FROM STAGECOACH TO THE BURLESON. I THOUGHT LAST TIME IT WAS LIKE 31 MILLION. YOU WOULD ADD OPTION ONE. IT'S 29 PLUS THE 12. THAT'S 31. I THINK IT'S 41. MAYBE I'M WRONG. 41 I'M SORRY. OKAY. YEAH, THAT LAST TIME IT WAS 31. AND HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CENTER STREET ON SYSTEM IS IF WE HAVE NOT BEEN OUT FOR IT YET? THOSE ARE JUST ESTIMATES. ESTIMATES. OKAY. SO IT COULD BE CHEAPER. IT COULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE. IT COULD BE CHEAPER. IT COULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE. WHEN DO WE WHEN WILL WE GET THOSE BIDS BACK? WE

[02:05:08]

WHEN DID WE GET THIS CENTER STREET OFF SYSTEM BACK? WHEN WAS THAT BID OUT? THAT WAS BID OUT. WE DID. YEAH. WELL, WE ISSUED NTP2 MONTHS AGO, BUT WHEN WE STARTED THE BID PROCESS, PROBABLY THE ADVERTISING, YOU KNOW, LATE IN LATE EARLY OF 25, 26. SO DID WE PUT OUT FOR BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. NO. THESE ARE SEPARATE PROJECTS. THESE ARE EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. SO SO I GET THAT. BUT WE CAN WE CAN PUT TWO BIDS OUT AT ONE TIME THAT ARE SEPARATE.

EXCUSE ME. RIGHT. WE COULD DO TWO BIDS AT ONE TIME THAT ARE SEPARATE. YOU COULD IF YOU WANTED TO. OKAY. YEAH. SO MY QUESTION IS WHY DIDN'T WE PUT THESE OUT TO BID AT THE SAME TIME? BECAUSE THESE ARE BEING TREATED AS, I GUESS TWO, TWO INDEPENDENT PROJECTS. I WOULD I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO BE. YEAH. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE ROAD HAD, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAD A BID FOR SOMETHING AND THEN LIKE. THE ROAD HAD A BID FOR SOMETHING, YOU COULD PUT OUT TWO DIFFERENT BIDS. RIGHT. AND THEY COULD, YOU COULD. YES. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN HERE IS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT BIDS, BUT PUT OUT AT THE SAME TIME. WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN A SOME KIND OF CONFLICT OR AN ISSUE DOING THAT? IT WOULD IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE NECESSARILY. NOW, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE DECISION WAS MADE, YOU KNOW, A LONG TIME AGO THAT THESE WERE GOING TO BE SEPARATE PROJECTS AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, BID SEPARATELY. AND ALSO, I GUESS ONE THING TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE CENTER STREET OFF IS AN ON OFF SYSTEM. IT'S, IT'S ENTIRELY WITHIN THE, THE CITY OF KYLE, ITS ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO ISSUE THAT FOR BID. NOW THE CENTER STREET ON GIVEN THAT IT'S AN ON ON SYSTEM FACILITY TEXTILE FACILITY, THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT TXDOT HAS AS FAR AS PROCUREMENT AND BIDDING AND PROCESSES AND EVERYTHING. AND SO IT WOULD HAVE MADE IT MORE CHALLENGING, I GUESS, TO TRY TO BID THOSE TOGETHER. AND LIKE I SAID, IT WAS NOT WHAT IF WE WERE TO BID IT PUT THE ON SYSTEM OUT FOR MONTHS BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE DID THE OFF SYSTEM, LIKE IF WE KNEW THAT THE ON SYSTEM WAS GOING TO TAKE LONGER, WHY WOULDN'T WE HAVE PUT THAT OUT FOR BID FIRST? I'M NOT NECESSARILY I MEAN, THIS ALL DEPENDS UPON, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START DESIGN, I MEAN, IT'S SCHEDULE, I GUESS THE THE OVERALL SCHEDULE OF CENTER STREET ON COULD HAVE BEEN EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN OFF OR, YOU KNOW, I GUESS. YEAH, YOU COULD HAVE, YOU COULD HAVE SPLIT THE ORDER OF, OF WHEN YOU ACTUALLY BID THESE THINGS. BUT THAT DECISION WAS MADE TO, TO BID CENTER STREET OFF FIRST. NO, I'M JUST I'M JUST GENUINELY CURIOUS BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID TXDOT HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I WOULD SAY I WOULDN'T SAY DETAILS. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A IT'S A THIRD PARTY. IT'S AN ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDER WITHIN THE PROJECT ITSELF. AND SO THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, I GUESS, TO COMBINE THE TWO. I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE DONE NO, NO, NO, NO, I'M I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. I NEVER WANT TO COMBINE THE TWO. YOU COULD JUST PUT OUT TWO DIFFERENT BIDS. YOU COULD PUT OUT TWO DIFFERENT. YEAH. THAT'S. AND SO I IF IT WERE ME I WOULD HAVE PUT OUT THE ON SYSTEM CENTER STREET OUT FOR BID BEFORE I WOULD HAVE DONE THE OFF SYSTEM. BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THE OFF SYSTEM IS STRICTLY THE CITY OF KYLE. SO IN ESSENCE, IT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER SINCE WE HAVE TO ENGAGE TXDOT TO PROCESS AND ENGINEER THAT PART. YEAH. I MEAN, THAT DECISION COULD HAVE BEEN MADE A LONG TIME AGO. AS FAR AS THE ORDERING OF PROJECTS, THAT'S NOT THE ORDERING THAT WE SELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, BUT OKAY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER MEDINA, ON THE COST OF OPTIONS AND THE OPTION NUMBER THREE? SO CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THE RESOLUTION IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DRIVE TRAIL, AS IS MAINTAINING THE UTILITIES OVERHEAD. SO AS IS MEANS THE SAME 12 FOOT SIDEWALKS AND KEEPING THE UTILITIES OVERHEAD. NOW, LAST TIME WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, I ASKED ABOUT 12 FOOT SIDEWALKS AND WOULD WE STILL HAVE TO OVERHEAD THE UTILITIES. AND I WAS TOLD SPECIFICALLY THAT ANYTHING OVER SIX FOOT WE WOULD HAVE TO OVERHEAD THE UTILITIES. SO NOW THIS OPTION IS PRESENTING SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND SAYING THAT WE CAN BUILD A 12 FOOT AND KEEP THE UTILITIES OVERHEAD AND NOT HAVE TO UNDERGROUND THEM. YEAH. SO LET ME JUST, I GUESS, CLARIFY. SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH HOW THE

[02:10:02]

AND DO WE KNOW? PROBABLY NOT, BUT HAVE TO ASK ANYWAY, THE TREE IN QUESTION THAT'S CAUSED A LOT OF HEARTACHE FOR THE FAMILY DOWN CENTER STREET. YES. WOULD THAT BE FURTHER AFFECTED WITH THE POTENTIAL OF ADDING MORE UTILITY EASEMENT? BECAUSE WE WERE RIGHT AT THE POSSIBILITY OF HOPEFULLY NOT AFFECTING THEIR TREE WITH THE 12 FOOT UNDERGROUNDING TOTALLY NOT AFFECTING THEIR TREE WITH A SIX FOOT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF WE LEFT IT AS IT IS TODAY, IF WE MAINTAIN THE 12 FOOT TRAIL, WE HAD A PLAN TO TO MINIMIZE AND MITIGATE THE IMPACTS TO THE TREE WITH THE PSC UNDERGROUNDING, IF THE DECISION WAS MADE TO GO TO A 12 FOOT TRAIL AND TO GO TO OVERHEAD POWER LINES LIKE IT IS TODAY, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TREE, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN CUT PRETTY SEVERELY WITH THE OVERHEAD LINES. YEAH. WE WOULD HAVE TO FURTHER LOOK AT A DESIGN THAT WOULD THAT WOULD TRY TO MITIGATE ANY ADDITIONAL IMPACTS TO THE TREE TO GO WITH THE OVERHEAD LINES. BUT IT'S NOT GUARANTEED. IT'S IT'S NOT GUARANTEED. WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'D LOOK HARD AND, YOU KNOW, AT SOLUTIONS TO, TO NOT AVOID OR TO AVOID ANY ADDITIONAL IMPACT. YES, BUT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT HARDER. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT AT NO POINT AM I GOING TO DO EMINENT DOMAIN FOR THIS FIVE TRAIL. IF OTHER PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THAT, THAT'S THEIR VOTE. BUT I'M NOT A PROPONENT OR A FAN OF EMINENT DOMAIN FOR ANY REASON. I FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN FIND ANOTHER WAY, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD, FRONT YARD, SIDE YARD. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. AND SO FOR ME, THAT OPTION IS OFF THE TABLE. AND I THINK THAT'S OPTION THREE. IS THAT CORRECT.

THAT WOULD BE OPTION THREE. AND I WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR I GUESS ON ON CENTER STREET OFF.

IF WE SAID WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE 12 FOOT TRAIL AND WE WANT TO GO UNDERGROUND WITH PC UTILITIES, THERE STILL WAS PROBABLY 2 OR 3 PARCELS THAT WE STILL NEEDED TO OBTAIN UTILITY EASEMENTS FOR PC. GRANTED, I THINK ONE OF THEM WAS GOING TO BE EMINENT DOMAIN ONLY BECAUSE THERE WAS ISSUE WITH TITLE. FOR INSTANCE, I DON'T RECALL IF THE OTHER TWO WOULD WOULD NECESSARILY REQUIRE EMINENT DOMAIN, SO THAT COULD STILL BE A CONSIDERATION WITH OPTION ONE.

OKAY, SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ALL THE EASEMENTS FOR OFF SYSTEM. WE DO. WE DO NOT. THERE WAS LIKE 2 OR 3 EASEMENTS THAT WE PAUSED ON BECAUSE OF THE INDECISION ON WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO AS FAR AS OVERHEAD OR UNDERGROUND. I THINK WE HAD, I DON'T KNOW, WE PROBABLY HAD A DOZEN PSC EASEMENTS FOR CENTER STREET OFF, BUT THERE WAS STILL 2 OR 3 REMAINING. AND THOSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL SCOPE, INCLUDING THOSE THREE AREAS. AND IF YOU DO GO FOR THEM, YOU'D HAVE TO GO AND OF COURSE, NEGOTIATE. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AS WELL. WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETE THE RIGHT OF WAY NEGOTIATION PROCESS. AND, AND I COULDN'T GUARANTEE THAT NONE OF THOSE WOULD NOT REQUIRE EMINENT DOMAIN. AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK THERE'S ONE PARCEL JUST BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES WITH TITLE WOULD WOULD REQUIRE EMINENT DOMAIN PROCESS. JUST TO CLEAR THAT. I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN SOME TIMES THAT RESIDENTS HAVE SAID, HEY, I'D RATHER GO TO EMINENT DOMAIN. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT PART. BUT IF SOMEBODY DOES NOT WANT US TAKING THEIR LAND BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE IT IMPOSES ON THEM, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. THERE WAS A TIME AND A POINT THAT I THOUGHT THAT THE VIBE WAS PART OF THE EMERALD TRAIL FROM FROM AUSTIN TO SAN ANTONIO. AND SO I READ UP ON THAT TRAIL AND IT

[02:15:02]

YOU HAVE TO WALK IT, YOU KNOW, GOOD, BAD, OR OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T SEE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN A CAR. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE KATHERINE ANNE PORTER HOUSE. PART OF ME FEELS LIKE MORE PEOPLE WILL BECOME AWARE OF IT IF THEY'RE GOING A LITTLE BIT SLOWER RIGHT PAST IT. I WONDER HOW MANY PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN CENTER STREET.

DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S THERE. I WAS ONE OF THEM FOR A LONG TIME UNTIL I GOT INVITED TO TO, TO A READING THERE. IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, I HIGHLY, HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO.

BY SLOWING DOWN, YOU GET TO APPRECIATE ALL THE LITTLE THINGS THAT KYLE HAS TO OFFER.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TRY TO DO ON A REGULAR BASIS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT REMINDS ME OF WHAT MADE ME FALL IN LOVE WITH THIS CITY IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE, THE, THE OVERALL BENEFIT TO ME IS TREMENDOUS. THERE'S SO MANY, SO MANY NUANCES THAT CAN COME FROM IT. I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PIE IN THE SKY VISIONS OF MAYBE HAVING A, YOU KNOW, 16 TO 18 PASSENGER GOLF CART THAT LOOKS LIKE A. LIKE A LOCOMOTIVE THAT ON NICE WEATHER DAYS, RIDES AROUND AND IS A SECONDARY FORM OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. MAYBE ONCE THIS THING IS ALL BUILT OUT, THEY'RE RELATIVELY CHEAP AND, AND CAN, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE A BENEFIT. THERE'S JUST SO MANY LITTLE THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH A VIBE SYSTEM NETWORK. LIKE WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING AS WE START CARVING IT UP AND TAKING OUT SEGMENTS, THOUGH IT BECAME BECOMES LESS USEFUL AND PROVIDES LESS VALUE OVERALL. SO. THAT'S MY $0.02. OKAY. THANK YOU. MY CONCERN IS GOING TO BE COST. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD THE ABILITY AND, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE A DIFFERENT COUNCIL, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT CO BONDS. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS ADDITIONAL DEBT. AND. IS HOW FAR DEEP ARE

[02:20:05]

BUNTON AND LAYMAN. BUNTON LAYMAN. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT BB EAST. HOW MUCH IS BUNTON LAYMAN? I DON'T HAVE THAT SCHEDULED. DO Y'ALL HAVE IT? OKAY. IF NOT, IT'S OKAY BY ROADS. I DON'T HAVE THE COST BY ROAD. AND WHAT PART OF BB EAST WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I KNOW BUNTON LEHMANN AND THAT IS NOT NEGOTIABLE FOR ME. BB FROM I BELIEVE REPUBLIC DRIVE ALL THE WAY UP TO HIGH ROAD. AND THAT'S WHICH IS A MUCH NEEDED AREA. YEAH, IT'S NOT JUST AS SIMPLE AS PRIORITIZING IT. WHICH ONE GOES FIRST OR SECOND OR THIRD? THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, THE STATUS OF THE DESIGN, THE EQUIPMENT ORDERING AHEAD OF TIME. ALL OF THAT IS INVOLVED.

THE UNDER UNDERGROUNDING OF UTILITIES. SO DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE, WHEN WE RUN OUT OF MONEY, IT'S GOING TO BE WE CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW IN THE LAST TWO ROADS, WHICH ONE OF THOSE NINE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE THE LAST TWO, MAYBE NEXT YEAR. THIS TIME WE CAN TELL YOU THE 55 MILLION IS NOW ONLY 20, HOPEFULLY. AND IT'S NOT 75 OR 100. THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA, YOU'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. YEAH. SO I THINK I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO COMPLETE CERTAIN ROADS. I THINK MY CONFUSION COMES FROM THE FACT THAT WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO FINISH THESE PROJECTS YET. THE OPTIONS THAT ARE LAID BEFORE US TONIGHT IN TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION SAY THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN AUTHORIZE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXCEED THE BUDGET. SO I THINK I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE WOULDN'T JUST AUTHORIZE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER TO EXCEED THE BUDGET TO COMPLETE THE ROADS, EVEN IF WE'RE IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PAUSE ON FIGURING OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE VIBE TRAIL, WE COULD STILL TECHNICALLY AUTHORIZE HIM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ROADS. CORRECT. SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE IN EITHER OR. THAT'S A POLICY DECISION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE. YEAH, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE CONVERSATION FOR A MINUTE THERE WAS CENTERED AROUND, WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE IT. WHEN IN MY MIND, I'M LIKE, BUT WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT WE HAVE THE OPTION AS A COUNCIL TO CHOOSE. WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY. YEAH. I'M LIKE, SO WE HAVE THE OPTION THERE. AND I WOULD RATHER GET PEOPLE THEIR ROADS. MAYBE WE SHOULD CLARIFY

[02:25:05]

THE PEOPLE WERE PROMISED ROADS. WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN? WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS? IF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THE ROADS TO BE BUILT AND THE CONSTANT ISSUES THAT I HAVE EVEN EMAILS TODAY, THAT THE ROADS ARE GETTING HORRIBLE OUT HERE UNTIL WE ASK, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET ROAD DONE? WHY ARE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS DOWNTOWN? WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR FIVE YEARS NOW SINCE YOU GUYS VOTED FOR THIS.

YOU'RE RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA. THEY WANTED ROADS. LET'S GET THEM THE ROADS. LET'S USE THIS MONEY TO GET THEM THE ROADS. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'M JUST OF THE BELIEF THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EITHER OR. LIKE I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT IT IS. AND YOU CAN LAUGH ALL YOU WANT, BUT IT IS TRUE. THERE IS REAL VALUE OUT OF ORDER. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DISRESPECTFUL. LET'S JUST TRY TO KEEP IT. I'M BEING DISRESPECTFUL. I AM NOT BEING DISRESPECTFUL. I'M SNICKERING OUT OF ORDER. AUDIENCE IS ACTUALLY BEING DISRESPECTFUL. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BEING DISRESPECTFUL, NO, I WILL NOT. ONE MORE OUTBURST. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE RESIDENTS. THEY HAVE A RIGHT AS RESIDENTS TO COME AND SAY, I MEAN, I'VE GOTTEN IT TOO. WE ALL GET IT. WE CAN'T LET THAT GET THE BEST OF US. THEY CAN DISAGREE. THEY ARE OUR BOSSES. WHEN I COME HERE, I LOOK AT THEM AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ALL THESE PEOPLE WANT FROM ME. YOU DON'T TREAT THEM LIKE THAT. THAT'S THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. THAT'S IN MY HEAD. THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. I WILL I WOULD NOT LOOK AT THEM AND SNICKER BACK AND ARGUE WITH THEM.

THAT'S NOT EVEN NOT IN A COUNCIL MEETING. SO I'M THE ONE THAT'S BEING CHASTISED HERE, EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T THE ONE THAT INITIATED IT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT VERY MUCH. WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD BE RESPECTFUL TO OUR RESIDENTS DURING OUR WORKSHOP. SO AS I WAS, WE AGREED TO A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T UPHELD. SO AS I WAS SAYING, I THINK THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH DELIVERING THESE ROADS TO RESIDENTS. ULTIMATELY, I WANT TO GET PEOPLE THEIR ROADS. I'M

[02:30:03]

THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT. IT COSTS MONEY. IT. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S EXPENSIVE. IT IS EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE. OKAY, THAT'S A GREAT POINT. WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND STOP CENTER STREET AND START FOCUSING ON THE EAST? 150 OR WE START FOCUSING ON THE EAST RIGHT AWAY.

I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. WE'VE HAD OPPORTUNITIES AS AS COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPATA SAID, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THINGS UP. WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND START ON LAYMAN AND BUTTON? I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA. THAT IS A FORGOTTEN ROAD. SO I THINK IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THAT, WHY DON'T WE MAKE A MOTION TO STOP THE BUILDING ON CENTER STREET AND PUT OUR ATTENTION TO LAYMAN AND BUTTON? I THINK YOU WOULD STILL BE RUNNING INTO THE SAME ISSUE. WE'RE NOT I'M NOT GOING BACK TO THE ISSUE OF THE VIBE TRAIL. NOW. YOU WHAT YOU SAID WAS WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHANGE AND TO FOCUS ON THE ROADS. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING MY ATTENTION IS NOW TURNED TO. AND I AGREE. I THINK WE SHOULD WE SHOULD START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE EAST LAYMAN AND BUTTON IS LONG OVERDUE. AND IF YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT. I'M NOT GOING BACK TO THE VIBE TRAIL TRUCK. THE VIBE WAS A PART OF ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS, SO NO MATTER WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LAYMAN AND BUTTON IN IT IS AND IS A PART OF EVERY SINGLE ROAD BOND PROJECT. BLESS YOU. DO YOU HAVE THAT ANSWER? WELL, AM I HAVE IT? YEAH. IT'S NOT A PART OF EVERY ONE OF THE ROAD BOND PROJECTS, BUT IT'S A COMPONENT ABOUT SIX OUT OF THE EIGHT. THERE'S PROBABLY TWO PROJECTS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE VIBE TRAIL.

SO BUT THE BUTTON DOES HAVE A VIBE TRAIL COMPONENT TO IT. GREAT. THAT IS EVEN BETTER IF WE CAN GET A ROAD AND A VIBE TRAIL TRAIL BUILT AT THE SAME TIME. I THINK THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. A MUCH NEEDED ROAD WHICH IS LAYMAN AND BUTTON AND WE CAN HAVE A VIBE AND I'D HAVE TO GO BACK. I REALLY WANT TO GO BACK AND AND LOOK AT ALL THE PROJECTS AGAIN BEFORE I MISSPEAK, BUT THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. WE'RE BEING TOLD, YES, WE SHOULD GO THE EAST AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE TO THAT. I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE START ON LAYMAN AND BUTTON. THAT ALSO GIVES THE VIBE TRAIL. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO ARGUE AGAINST THAT VIBE TRAIL WHATSOEVER. I THINK IT'S NOT THE VIBE TRAIL IN GENERAL, IT'S SEGMENTS OF IT THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE. THAT MADE IT HARD, THAT AFFECTED PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS. I DON'T KNOW OF TOO MANY HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON LAYMAN AND BUTTON THAT WILL BE AFFECTED. SO SHALL WE REFOCUS OUR ATTENTION? WELL, I THINK FOR ONE, IT WASN'T PART OF THE AGENDA. SO I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR TWO BEFORE WE KILL A PROJECT THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY IN DISTRICT FOUR, I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THE DISTRICT FOUR REP IS HERE.

I'M SURE YOU KNOW MAYOR PRO TEM OR COUNCILMEMBER MEDINA WOULD AGREE IF THE SITUATION WAS IN 2 OR 6. I WILL ALSO REQUEST THAT WHILE IT'S EASY TO GET VERY EXCITED ABOUT THESE THINGS, WE'RE ALL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. LET'S KIND OF BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT IF WE CAN. I PLEASE. I'M NOT TRYING TO BRING IT. WELL, HERE'S THE DEAL. WHEN I HEAR SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS ON BOARD WITH THAT MAKES ME EXCITED, I, I AGREE, AND THE TRAIL COALITION HAS ASKED TO PUT THIS ON PAUSE AS WELL. THAT'S ALL. THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT. I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF CURIOUS WHY WE'RE KIND OF CARVING UP THE ROAD BOND AND BRINGING UP LITTLE SECTIONS AT A TIME LIKE THIS. LIKE, WHY ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT CENTER STREET? WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT LAMAN AND BUTTON? WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT EAST NOT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THIS WAS BROUGHT TO US IN, IN SUCH A SMALL SEGMENT, BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE IT WAS 19 MILLION OVER BUDGET. AND I WANT COUNCIL TO GIVE ME THAT AUTHORITY TO SPEND OVER THE BUDGET. I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ON MY OWN. SO I WANT FORMAL AUTHORIZATION FROM COUNCIL TO EXCEED THE BUDGET FOR THIS ROAD. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? I GOTCHA WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU ENDED UP RECEIVING DIRECTION TO REDIRECT OUR ATTENTION TO LAYMEN, INCLUDING LIKE ROAD BOND, PROJECT, VIBE, TRAIL INCLUDED AND ALL OR BUNTON, WHICHEVER ONE YOU GIVE ME A MOTION AND MAJORITY VOTE TO PAUSE CENTER STREET. WE WILL PAUSE CENTER STREET AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO BUNTON LAYMAN. OKAY, WELL, CAN YOU BRING THAT BACK? CAN WE BRING THAT BACK SO COUNCIL MEMBER HARRIS CAN HAVE A SAY? UNLESS, I MEAN, I'LL VOTE ON IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M

[02:35:06]

YES. I GUESS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT ON CENTER STREET OFF. SO I GUESS IT'S PART OF THAT. WE'LL HAVE TO QUANTIFY WHAT THE COST MIGHT BE TO PAUSE. THAT ONLY GOES TO TO VETERANS, RIGHT. THAT IT'S FROM VETERANS TO OLD STAGECOACH ROAD.

THAT'S THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. SO THAT'S THE ONE THAT THERE'S A CONTRACT.

YES. THERE'S, THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH MAKING THAT DECISION. SO I AND THEN YEAH, ON SYSTEM HASN'T BEEN BID SO ON SYSTEM WE COULD ESSENTIALLY DO SCHEDULED DELAY. ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THERE WOULDN'T BE A COST TO A SCHEDULED DELAY. WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COST ESCALATION OR WHATEVER. WE'D HAVE TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO WHATEVER FUTURE CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATES. SO THERE WOULD STILL BE A COST THERE THAT I GUESS I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE CENTER STREET OFF JUST TO THE FACT THAT WE DO KNOW. I AGREE, AND I'M ALMOST TEMPTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, BECAUSE EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GO DOWN CENTER STREET, IT COULD GO DOWN VETERANS OR A DIFFERENT WAY. BUT TO HAVE WELL, THAT'S THE ONE WITH THE BIGGEST DISPARITY. I KNOW IT DOES HAVE A BIG DISPARITY, BUT WE'VE COME THIS FAR. WE'VE SPENT MONEY AND I DON'T THINK IT'LL IT'LL COST US TOO TERRIBLY MUCH TO WAIT UNTIL DOCTOR HARRIS IS BACK. OKAY? OKAY. OKAY. YEP. THOSE ARE THE MARCHING ORDERS. HEY, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY FOR ALL THE PAUSE. IT'S. IT'S TOUGH FOR US, TOO. WE WANT TO SEE THESE THINGS MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT IN A WAY THAT'S FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. AND IT MAKES SENSE TO THE TOTALITY OF THE RESIDENTS. SO I HOPE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, JUST FOR THE MINUTES, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO TABLE, PLEASE? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE AGENDA ITEM TWO SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GOSA ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES SIX ZERO.

[III.3) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide direction to staff regarding the status, planning, and implementation of the following water supply and infrastructure initiatives: Alliance Regional Water Authority (ARWA)Phase 1C, Phase 1D, and Phase 2 STV Water Master Plan Nueces River Authority (NRA) Water Supply Initiative Guadalupe-Blanco River Authority (GBRA) WaterSECURE Program Indirect Potable Reuse/Director Potable Reuse Project ]

THIS IS LONG TERM WATER THAT WILL TAKE US DECADES INTO THE FUTURE. AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL ASKING US TO BRING THAT FORWARD. WE WERE CALLING IT WATER PALOOZA, BUT WE THOUGHT, LET'S CALL IT WATER SUPPLY AND INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVES INSTEAD. I STILL LIKE WATER PALOOZA, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GOING BY INITIALLY. BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PRETTY RAPIDLY. BUT I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE THE, THE, THE MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TONIGHT. AND SO JUST QUICKLY, WE'LL SEE HERE, LET ME KIND OF KEEP UP WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ITINERARY TONIGHT. WE'VE GOT GRAHAM MOORE WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF AWWA.

HE IS GOING TO START OFF AND TALK ABOUT STATUS OF PHASE 1C1D. AND THEN WHAT DOES FUTURE PHASE

[02:40:05]

WE'VE GOT RYAN OWENS WHO IS OWEN SORRY, WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT FOR STEVE. AND WITH HIM HE'S GOT GOPAL GUTHIKONDA, WHO IS THE SENIOR TECHNICAL ADVISOR. AND THEN WITH NARA, WE'VE GOT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, JOHN BYRUM, AND THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, JOHN CHISHOLM, HERE TONIGHT. AND THEY'VE ALSO GOT MARK ELLISON WITH I'D E WHICH IS THE CONTRACTOR I BELIEVE, THAT IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTING THE DESALINATION PLANT ON THE COAST. WE'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT DARYL MITCHELL, WHO IS THE GENERAL MANAGER AND CEO OF GBRA. AND MAKING THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE CHARLIE HICKMAN, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE MANAGER OVER ENGINEERING. SO WE'VE GOT QUITE THE TEAM HERE WITH US AND HOPE YOU ENJOY THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT. FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS. WE WILL HAVE Q&A THROUGHOUT AND THEN WE'LL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL PRESENTATIONS, FOR SURE WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT. AND THIS IS THIS IS SORT OF AN OPEN COMMUNICATION IS JUST NOT JUST TO SIT THERE AND LISTEN TO THEM. I MEAN, YOU CAN IF YOU WANT, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS FOR SURE, FEEL FREE TO ASK. AND SO I'M GOING TO INVITE GRAHAM UP TO THE PODIUM. AND WE WILL START WITH ARWA, AND THEY WILL GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHERE THEY ARE WITH THESE MAJOR WATER PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. OKAY. GRAHAM. THANK YOU MIKE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GRAHAM MOORE. I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY. I GUESS YOU'RE TACKLING NOTHING BUT EASY TOPICS TONIGHT, SO WE'LL GET ON TO WATER. I'D WANT TO AGAIN UPDATE YOU ON WHERE WE'RE AT IN OUR CARRIZO EXPANSION 1C1D PHASES OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN DISCUSS IN& SOME LEVEL OUR PHASE TWO OPTIONS THAT WERE UNDER CONSIDERATION. THIS IS OUR OVERALL SYSTEM MAP THAT SHOWS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FROM OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THE EASTERN CALDWELL COUNTY PIPELINES AND BOOSTER PUMP STATION THAT DELIVER WATER TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS, WHICH INCLUDE THE CITY OF KYLE, THE CITY OF BUDA, SAN MARCOS, AS WELL AS COUNTY LINE SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT. CRYSTAL CLEAR. SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT IN GREEN VALLEY. SPECIAL UTILITY DISTRICT. WE ARE PARTNERED IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE GUADALUPE-BLANCO RIVER AUTHORITY. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CUSTOMERS THAT THEY DELIVER WATER TO OUT OF THE SYSTEM AS WELL. WE HAVE CURRENTLY ONE DELIVERY POINT FOR THE CITY OF KYLE WITH THIS WATER. THAT'S THE FM 1626 PUMP STATION THERE NEAR HEB. VERY SOON WE EXPECT TO BE DELIVERING WATER TO THE NEW CR 158 PUMP STATION THAT KYLE HAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED SOON. AND THEN WE HAVE AN ANTICIPATED THIRD DELIVERY POINT AT THE FUTURE OPAL LANE PUMP STATION ON THE WEST SIDE OF KYLE. JUST SOME BASIC UPDATES ON OUR ON OUR CURRENT PROJECT. WE BEGAN DELIVERING WATER OUT OF THE WHAT WE CALL THE PHASE ONE B PROGRAM IN APRIL OF 2025. ALL OF THAT ORIGINAL PHASE OF WATER IS AVAILABLE TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS. IN FACT, KYLE IS NOW LEASING WATER RIGHTS FROM SOME OF THE THE OTHER PARTICIPANTS IN THAT PROGRAM THAT WERE NOT NEEDING TO UTILIZE ALL THAT WATER INITIALLY, THE PHASE 1C1D PROGRAM, WHAT WE OTHERWISE CALL THE CARRIZO EXPANSION PROGRAM, STARTED DESIGNED IN 2024 AND HAS BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT PERMANENT EQUIPMENT TO RESOLVE ELEVATED IRON LEVELS THAT WE HAD IN THE SOURCE WATER. THE RESULT OF THIS PROJECT WILL BE TO ADD JUST SHY OF 2300 ACRE FEET OF ADDITIONAL SUPPLY FOR THE CITY OF KYLE. WE CONTRACTED LAST YEAR WITH HASKELL COMPANY FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK TO DELIVER THE CARRIZO EXPANSION PROGRAM. EXCEPT FOR THE ACTUAL WELL DRILLING, WE CHOSE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION, WITH CONSTRUCTION PRIOR TO COMPLETION OF DESIGN. SO IT WAS A WAY FOR US TO SPEED UP THE TIME TO DELIVERY OF THE PROJECT.

AND WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE JUST ISSUED TO THEM FOR THE EXPANSION WORK, WE ARE ANTICIPATING DELIVERY OF THE WATER STARTING IN JANUARY OF 2029. FOR THIS ADDITIONAL PHASE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE THE EXPANSION PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION ITSELF. SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION AT THE AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, A BOOSTER PUMP STATION EXPANSION TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF WATER THAT WE CAN DELIVER TO OUR CUSTOMERS. WE HAVE RAW WATER INFRASTRUCTURE TO, TO COLLECT WATER FROM WELL FIELDS AND BRING THAT TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COMPONENT AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WE CALL SOLIDS HANDLING, DEALING WITH THE LEFTOVERS THAT COME OFF OF THE FILTERED WASTE. AND THEN FINALLY, WE HAVE A NON PROJECT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE CMR AND THAT'S THE WELL DRILLING. AND THAT'LL BE THE THE SEVEN CARRIZO WELLS. SO WE'VE WE'VE BROKEN THIS INTO KIND OF DIFFERENT GROUPINGS.

[02:45:03]

SO THIS IS AN OVERALL FUNDING SUMMARY AS TO WHERE WE'RE AT ON THIS PROGRAM. FIRST OF ALL, I'VE LISTED OUT HERE TO THE RIGHT THE THREE DIFFERENT GMP. YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE PART OF THESE COMPONENTS, WE ARE PARTNERED WITH GBRA IN FOR GMP ONE AND THREE. THEY HAVE CAPACITY OWNERSHIP IN THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT. AND SO WE SHARE THE COST. BASED ON THAT, WE SPLIT THE COST BASED ON THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THEM THE CAPACITY SHARE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOTAL FOR THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION IS ABOUT $161 MILLION. THERE ARE A SHARE IS ABOUT 71 MILLION OF THAT. THE REST OF THAT IS PICKED UP BY GBRA. SIMILAR FOR THE SOLIDS HANDLING GMP THREE. HOWEVER, GMP TWO GBRA DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROJECT. THEY DO NOT NEED THE ADDITIONAL RAW WATER INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE BOOSTER PUMP STATION EXPANSION IN ORDER TO DELIVER THEIR WATER. SO THAT IS WHAT WE CALL AN ALLIANCE ONLY PROJECT. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT CARRIES ACROSS, AS DOES THE WELL DRILLING, WHICH IS FOR ALLIANCE ONLY. SO THE TOTAL COST FOR FOR ALL OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ABOUT $270 MILLION FOR THIS EXPANSION. ALLIANCE'S SHARE OF THIS IS 161 MILLION. WE CURRENTLY HAVE PREVIOUS FUNDING IN HAND BASED ON PREVIOUS DEBT ISSUANCES OF JUST SHY OF 121 MILLION, LEAVING US WITH A DEFICIT OF ABOUT 40.4 MILLION. AND SO WE HAVE SOUGHT ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND THE STATE WATER IMPLEMENTATION FUND OF $42,840,000. ORIGINALLY, WE HAD ESTIMATED THAT THAT COST WOULD BE UP TO $75 MILLION. SO WE WERE ABLE TO TO CLOSE THAT AND NARROW THAT GAP QUITE A BIT OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS. AND WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE OUR LOAN REQUEST FROM THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD RECENTLY. SO YOU GUYS DID RECEIVE THAT LOAN. WE HAVE NOT HAD DON'T HAVE THE LOAN PROCEEDS YET. WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO ALL OF OUR BOARDS FOR ACTION IN OCTOBER TO CLOSE ON THOSE FUNDS, BUT WE REDUCED OUR REQUEST FROM 75 MILLION TO 42 MILLION. WE HAD A DEADLINE BY MID AUGUST TO DO THAT. SO THE BREAKDOWN THEN BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ARE A CONGLOMERATE OF DIFFERENT CITIES AND UTILITY DISTRICTS THAT NEED THIS WATER. THIS BREAKDOWN OF THE $42.84 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL DEBT IS BASED ON NOT ONLY THE PERCENT OF WATER THAT EACH ENTITY GETS, BUT THAT'S ALSO HOW MUCH YOU PAY INTO THE PROGRAM. AND SO KYLE, SHARE OF THAT IS 28.17%, WHICH EQUATES TO $12,070,000. AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER ENTITIES THERE AND THEIR PORTIONS OF THE $42.84 MILLION. WHICH LEADS ME, MAYOR, TO TO YOU WERE GETTING TO MY NEXT TOPIC. WE WILL NEED TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ISSUANCE OF THOSE BONDS. PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH OUR WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT IS THAT ANYTIME WE ISSUE DEBT, WE'VE GOT TO GO TO EACH OF OUR SPONSORS AND GET APPROVAL FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT DEBT ISSUANCE. AND SO WE WILL SCHEDULE THAT FOR THE OCTOBER TIME FRAME. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, OUR BOARD WILL TAKE ACTION AFTER THAT, ASSUMING WE'LL GET ALL THE APPROVALS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ISSUANCE, WE WILL KNOW THE BOND ACTUAL INTEREST RATES BY THE 1ST OF OCTOBER, WHEN THE STATE SELLS THOSE BONDS IN NEW YORK. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ALL THOSE FINAL DOCUMENTS READY FOR YOUR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. WE'RE CURRENTLY TARGETING OCTOBER 20TH. AND THEN ASSUMING THAT ALL MOVES FORWARD, WE WILL CLOSE ON THOSE WITH FUNDS IN DECEMBER 2026. IN THE MEANTIME, CONSTRUCTION. WE ISSUED THE NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR. SO THEY'RE JUST GETTING STARTED ON CONSTRUCTION OF THIS EFFORT. SO BEFORE I MOVE INTO KIND OF THE PHASE TWO, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TOPIC OF WHERE ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES WILL COME FROM, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE THIS EXPANSION PROGRAM.

COUNCILMEMBER MCKINNEY. SINCE WE DO LEASE SOME WATER FROM THESE SOME OF THESE OTHER ENTITIES, WOULD THAT AFFECT OUR PERCENTAGE OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR. THE OVERALL SWIFT FUNDING? IF IT'S APPROVED, WOULD WE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PART OF THEIRS? THAT DEPENDS ON YOUR AGREEMENT WITH THOSE ENTITIES THAT THOSE AGREEMENTS DO NOT GO THROUGH ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY. THEY ARE DIRECTLY BETWEEN KYLE AND THOSE ENTITIES. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE

[02:50:02]

SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY ADDITIONAL FOR PHASE ONE. DID WE HAVE LIKE A BUDGET OR DID WE HAVE LIKE AN AMOUNT THAT WE WERE TOLD PRIOR TO? SO WE'RE LIKE PARTNERS IN THE SYSTEM, RIGHT? WE ARE ALL OWNERS. SO OUR SHARE IS ABOUT 28%, 28 SOME SOME CHANGE. OKAY. SO WHATEVER THE PROJECT COST IS, WE, WE BEAR THAT PORTION OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY. OKAY. I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT'S, IT COULD JUST CHANGE ALL THE TIME. I'M JUST LIKE, AND WE CAN'T WAIT A MINUTE. YEAH. WE CAN'T. SO WE JUST HOW DO WE OVERSEE THAT? WE JUST MAKE SURE.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAD PEOPLE ON THE BOARD. YEAH, I WAS JUST SAYING WE'RE, WE HAVE A 13 MEMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE CITY APPOINTS THREE MEMBERS TO THAT BOARD. AND SO THEY OVERSEE, GIVE REPORTS, GIVE DIRECTION TO US SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE THE PROJECTS. WE HAVE HAD COST OVERRUNS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO ISSUE THIS ADDITIONAL DEBT. WE'VE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY OR WATER CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF THE SOURCE WATER I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE IRON ELEVATED IRON LEVELS IN THE WATER. AND SO THIS WILL HELP CORRECT THAT ISSUE AND GET RID OF SOME OF THE TEMPORARY UNITS WE'VE HAD TO HAVE ON SITE TO DEAL WITH THIS TREATMENT. SO BEING CANDID, YES, WE'VE HAD SOME COST OVERRUNS. AND THAT'S JUST FOR PHASE ONE. WE HAVE WE HOW MANY PHASES ARE THERE ALTOGETHER? IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE TWO PHASES. AND SO THIS WILL COMPLETE THE END OF PHASE ONE. WE CHOPPED IT INTO SEPARATE SUB PHASES. THIS WILL COMPLETE ALL OF PHASE ONE WITH THIS EFFORT. AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR PHASE TWO. OKAY. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE WHERE IS THAT GOING TO BE AT IN THE CITY OF BECAUSE I KNOW WE STARTED OFF WITH 1626, RIGHT? WE HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS AND THE WATER CAN BE DELIVERED TO ANY OF THE LOCATIONS. IT'LL BE 16, 26 CURRENTLY AGAIN SOON. CR 158 PUMP STATION WILL BE ONLINE AND WE CAN DELIVER WATER TO THAT STATION AS WELL. AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, WE'VE GOT PLANS. WHEN THE CITY DEVELOPS ITS OPAL LANE PUMP STATION TO DELIVER WATER TO THAT PUMP, THAT AREA NUMBER THREE. OKAY, SO IS NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE GOING TO BE IN PHASE TWO? NUMBER TWO WILL BE A PART OF PHASE ONE. I BELIEVE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PUMP STATION IS ALMOST READY TO COME ONLINE SO WE CAN START DELIVERING WATER THERE. THAT MAKES ME EXCITED. IT'S RIGHT OVER BY 158. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE RED LINE AS OPPOSED TO THE 1626 WHICH HAD TO GO. WE HAVE LINES IN BOTH AREAS. WE CROSSED AREAS IN BOTH WAYS. SO IT'S CLOSE TO THE RW LINES IN BOTH CASES. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. AND AGAIN, WE WILL THE WE ANTICIPATE THE EXPANDED WATER SUPPLY TO BE AVAILABLE STARTING IN JANUARY OF 2029. THAT'S THE COMMITMENT WE HAVE FROM OUR CONTRACTOR. AND THAT HAS BOTH. WE HAVE SOME INCENTIVES BUILT INTO THAT. SO THEY CAN PERFORM EARLIER. THEY WILL GET SOME BONUSES FOR EARLIER COMPLETION. WE ALSO HAVE SIGNIFICANT LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IF THEY ARE LATE THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO TO PHASE TWO SUPPLY. AND WE'VE TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON THIS, BUT WE ALWAYS ENVISIONED BACK TO 2005 WHEN ALLIANCE REGIONAL WATER AUTHORITY WAS FIRST KIND OF BEING DREAMED UP AND CAME TOGETHER, THAT IT WOULD BE A TWO PHASE SUPPLY TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS. AT THAT TIME, WE WERE PROJECTING ABOUT 2000 ACRE FEET PER YEAR WOULD BE SUPPLIED TO THE SPONSORS. OUT OF PHASE TWO, WE HAVE HAD THIS KIND OF TWO PHASED APPROACH IN THE STATE WATER PLAN DATING BACK TO 2012, AND EVEN THE WATER SUPPLY CONTRACT WE HAVE BETWEEN ALLIANCE WATER AND OUR SPONSORS CONTEMPLATES THE TWO PHASED APPROACH. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN KIND OF BUILT INTO THIS PROGRAM FROM THE BEGINNING. SUPPLY SOURCES. WE ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING FRESH GROUNDWATER FROM THE CARRIZO AQUIFER. OUR WELL FIELD IS IN CALDWELL COUNTY. IT'S ACTUALLY PERMITTED IN TWO DIFFERENT GROUNDWATER DISTRICTS. THE ORIGINAL PLAN CONTEMPLATED JUST FRESH CARRIZO WATER IN CALDWELL, MAYBE INTO

[02:55:01]

HOWEVER, GROUNDWATER RIGHT NOW IS A VERY COMPETITIVE MARKET. ANY WATER IS A VERY COMPETITIVE MARKET. AND SO WE COMMISSIONED A STUDY RECENTLY TO REVIEW MULTIPLE FRESH AND BRACKISH GROUNDWATER OPTIONS TO MEET THE COMING DEMANDS. BRACKISH WATER JUST MEANS THAT IT HAS MORE SALINITY. SO ANYTHING THAT HAS GREATER THAN 1000 TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS IS CONSIDERED BRACKISH. AND SO IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE ADDITIONAL TREATMENT TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE AND POTABLE FOR USE. AND SO WE COMMISSIONED THAT STUDY TO LOOK AT VARIOUS OPTIONS. DOES IT SAN ANTONIO USE BRACKISH. PART OF THEIR SUPPLY IS A BRACKISH SUPPLY. YES MA'AM. THEY HAVE A DESAL PLANT TO DEAL WITH THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S GETTING MORE POPULAR, INCLUDING SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT WAS PASSED THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE IN 2025, INCLUDED INCENTIVES, ESSENTIALLY TO TRY AND PUSH PEOPLE MORE TOWARDS BRACKISH WATER AND AWAY FROM FRESHWATER.

OKAY, SO THIS IS A TABLE AND YOU'LL NOTE THE LACK OF DETAILS. AGAIN, IT'S A IT'S A COMPETITIVE MARKET. AND SO WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF VETTING OUT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND DISCUSSING WITH OUR BOARD WHICH DIRECTION THEY WANT US TO PURSUE FOR VARIOUS OPTIONS. BUT THIS LAYS OUT IN KIND OF AN XY GRAPH POSITION OF WHAT SOME OF THE OPTIONS LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF TOTAL SUPPLY THAT'S AVAILABLE, AND THEN THE RELATIVE COST TO ONE ANOTHER.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE THE Y AXIS GOING VERTICALLY, THAT'S THE UNIT COST OF WATER. SO OBVIOUSLY THOSE WATER COSTS VARY SIGNIFICANTLY BASED ON THE TYPES OF TREATMENT WE HAVE TO DO, THE LOCATIONS OF THE WELL FIELDS, ETC. AND SO THIS CATEGORIZES THOSE VERTICALLY.

AND THEN ON THE HORIZONTAL BAR THE X AXIS, WE LOOKED AT THE QUANTITY OF WATER THAT CAN BE DELIVERED OUT OF THE VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY SEVEN DIFFERENT SUPPLY OPTIONS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THREE OF THESE ARE MORE REGIONAL APPROACHES. SO IT TAKES A COUPLE OF THESE AND COMBINES THEM TOGETHER TO MAKE A LARGER PROJECT. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AND CONSIDERING VARIOUS OPTIONS. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY YET. WE HAVEN'T APPROACHED ANY OF OUR SPONSORS YET TO DETERMINE EXACT VOLUMES THAT THAT EACH OF YOU WOULD WANT OUT OF PHASE TWO. SO WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE THE PICTURE PRETTY OPEN AT THIS POINT IN TIME UNTIL WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT EVERYBODY'S NEEDS ARE. WE KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT OTHER SUPPLY OPTIONS, WHICH EVERY ENTITY SHOULD AT ALL TIMES IN THIS STATE. AND SO WE NEED TO COORDINATE WITH STAFF AND COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT NEED IS, WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR FROM US TO DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE SOME I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MINUTE. DEVELOPMENT TIMELINES CAN VARY. THIS IS ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TIMELINES FOR PROBABLY ONE OF THE SHORTER PERIODS. AND THIS LOOKS AT A TEN YEAR PERIOD. BASICALLY TO DEVELOP THE WATER, WE'VE GOT TO DO A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK IN TERMS OF LEASING GROUNDWATER RIGHTS GO THROUGH PERMITTING AT GROUNDWATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS FOR THOSE. AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE DESIGN ASPECT OF THE PROJECT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE CONSTRUCTION UNTIL WE GET TO WATER DELIVERY. AND SO LOOKING AT ABOUT A TEN YEAR DEVELOPMENT PERIOD FOR SOME OF THE SUPPLY OPTIONS, SOME OF THOSE THAT I SHOWED ON THE LAST SLIDE COULD EXTEND WELL BEYOND. AND IF WE PHASE IT INTO MULTIPLE PHASES, IT COULD BE A COUPLE OF DECADES OF TIME THAT IT TAKES TO DEVELOP THE TOTALITY OF THAT WATER SUPPLY.

I WANT TO NOTE SOME POTENTIAL CHALLENGES. AS NOTED, GROUNDWATER IS HIGHLY COMPETITIVE. AND SO WE KNOW THAT GROUNDWATER REGULATIONS ARE CONSTANTLY EVOLVING. THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS ANTICIPATED TO INCLUDE DOZENS OF BILLS THAT FURTHER AFFECT REGULATION. WE CURRENTLY HAVE SOME GROUNDWATER LEASES, SOME EXCESS GROUNDWATER LEASES, BUT WE'LL NEED TO SECURE ADDITIONAL RIGHTS OR LEASES TO MEET THE FULL ANTICIPATED DEMANDS THAT WOULD COME FROM THIS PHASE TWO PROJECT. AND DEPENDING ON WHICH GROUNDWATER DISTRICT WE END UP IN, THE PERMITTING OF THOSE WATER RIGHTS MAY REQUIRE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S GETTING MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO PERMIT WATER RIGHTS CURRENTLY, AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE FACTORED INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE. I DO THINK THE ALLIANCE SYSTEM OVERALL OFFERS SOME ADVANTAGES. FIRST, THE EXISTING PIPELINE EASEMENTS ALLOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL PIPELINE TO BE INSTALLED. AND SO THAT REDUCES PROPERTY ACQUISITION COST AND TIME. YOU KNOW, AS YOU NOTED IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET THE RIGHTS TO PUT IN PROJECTS. AND SO HAVING THE RIGHTS ALREADY IN PLACE TO INSTALL ADDITIONAL PIPELINE IS A CERTAIN ADVANTAGE. THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT SITE WE HAVE, AS WELL AS OUR MAXWELL BOOSTER PUMP STATION PROPERTIES, ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE NEW PLANTS AND SIGNIFICANT EXPANSIONS AT THOSE FACILITIES. SO AGAIN, THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION TIME, WE KNOW WHERE KIND OF THE ENDING POINTS WILL BE FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT SAVES VALUABLE TIME AND ROUTING, ANALYSIS, ETC. IN ADDITION, WE CAN DELIVER ADDITIONAL SUPPLIES TO THE EXISTING DELIVERY POINTS.

WE'VE OVERSIZE SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOWNSTREAM OF THE MAXWELL BOOSTER PUMP

[03:00:02]

HOPEFULLY BY JANUARY OF 2029, WE'LL BE TAKING FROM OUR. NOW, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT BOARD MEMBERS. SO DOCTOR HARRIS IS REPRESENTING CITY COUNCIL ON THE BOARD. AND THEN I'M ON OUR BOARD. AND BLAKE IS ON OUR BOARD. TIM IS ON THE TECHNICAL TEAM. AND ALSO MIKE VAN WINKLE, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD HIS NAME MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, ARE BOTH ON THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ALONG WITH MYSELF. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GRAHAM. IT'S IT'S REALLY STRONG, IT'S GOOD. AND IT'S A, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY SIMPLE. SO WITH THAT SAID, SO OUR NEXT I'M GOING TO ASK RYAN OWEN TO COME UP AND HE IS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THE UPDATE TO THE WATER MASTER PLAN. LET'S SEE HERE.

LET ME GET CAUGHT UP HERE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT UPDATED GROWTH PROJECTIONS, THE UPDATED WATER DEMAND PROJECTIONS, AND FINAL DRAFT DELIVERY OF OUR WATER MASTER PLAN. SO RYAN BEHIND ME RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RYAN OWEN WITH STEVE HERE THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE WATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE, JUST TO PROVIDE A SNAPSHOT OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH THE FOCUS ON THE UPDATED WATER DEMAND PROJECTIONS. SO TODAY I'LL GO OVER THE A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROCESS FOR UPDATING THE WATER DEMAND PROJECTIONS, AS WELL AS HOW THOSE STACK UP NEXT TO THE CITY'S CURRENT AND PLANNED WATER SUPPLIES, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE FUTURE WATER SUPPLY NEEDS. SO TO START WITH AN OVERVIEW, THE PURPOSE OF THE UPDATE TO THE MASTER PLAN WAS REALLY TO ALIGN WITH UPDATES WITH WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WE STARTED THE PROJECT BY MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM, THE UTILITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAMS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE PREVIOUS PROJECTIONS THAT WERE DONE.

LOOK AT DEVELOPMENT BY DEVELOPMENT THAT THE CITY WAS AWARE OF, AND LOOK AT WHAT OUR REASONABLE ANNUAL BUILDS FOR EACH OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS. AND THEN BEYOND THAT, IN THE NON EXISTING AND NON KNOWN AREAS WITHIN THE WATER SERVICE AREA, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE FOR ULTIMATE BUILD OUT AND WHEN. AND SO THE LAST GO AROUND THE 2024 WATER MASTER PLAN WAS, WAS THE FIRST ONE. THE DEVELOPMENT TRENDS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. AND NOW WITH THE UPDATE, WE'VE WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY TO UPDATE THOSE PROJECTIONS. THE RESULT OF THAT IMPACTS THE TIMELINE AND THE NEED FOR SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL WATER SUPPLY, AS WELL AS THE NEED AT FULL BUILD OUT. AND IT ALSO IMPACTS THE PRIORITIZATION AND TIMING OF SOME OF THE WATER CIP PROJECTS. TO TO START, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE TERMINOLOGY. WHEN WE'RE TALKING

[03:05:03]

OF COURSE, MANY ACRONYMS. AND SO. THIS SLIDE SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL CONTEXT FOR WATER USAGE IN THE CITY OF KYLE DATING BACK TO 2018. THE BLUE LINE IN THE GRAPH ON THE RIGHT IS THE DAILY USAGE IN THE CITY DATING BACK TO JANUARY 1ST, 2018, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE END OF 2025, NEW YEAR'S EVE. AND SO WHAT THIS THE PURPOSE OF SHOWING THIS HERE, THE ORANGE LINE REPRESENTS THE AVERAGE DAY DEMAND FOR ANY GIVEN YEAR. AND SO WHILE THAT KIND OF STAIR STEPPED UP FROM 2018 THROUGH 2023, IT, IT GENERALLY FLATTENED IN 2023 AND 2024.

GROWTH CONTINUED, BUT THERE WERE SOME WATER RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE. AND SO DEMAND WAS REDUCED. AND SO THAT JUST SHOWS THERE'S SOME SOME CONTROL, SOME IMPACTS THAT WATER RESTRICTIONS HAVE ON DEMAND. THE TOP THE TOP BLUE LINE IN EACH CALENDAR YEAR WOULD REPRESENT THE MAXIMUM DAY IN THAT YEAR. AND SO A COUPLE OF THE NOTES ON THE GRAPH ON THE RIGHT, THE AMENDED STAGE THREE WATER RESTRICTIONS WENT INTO PLACE IN SEPTEMBER 2023. FOLLOWING THAT, USAGE DECLINED ALONG WITH SEASONAL CHANGES INTO WINTER AND LESS TYPICAL WATER USAGE SEASONALLY THROUGHOUT 2024, THOSE RESTRICTIONS REMAINED IN PLACE. THERE WAS ENFORCEMENT IN PLACE AS WELL. AND SO THIS IS JUST TO REPRESENT THAT THAT REALLY HAD AN IMPACT. THAT MAXIMUM DAY WAS WAS QUITE A BIT LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND THE AVERAGE DAY HELD CONSTANT. DESPITE CONTINUED GROWTH IN THE CITY. THE TABLE HERE, THE PURPOSE IS REALLY JUST TO SHOW THAT GROWTH AND WATER DEMAND AND WATER USAGE ARE NOT ALWAYS 1 TO 1. THE WATER SERVICE POPULATION IS IS AN ESTIMATE BASED ON THE THE NUMBER OF OF CONNECTIONS. AND SO THE GROWTH PERCENTAGE WISE BASED ON THAT IN 2023 AND 2024 WAS 10/10 PERCENT. WHILE AS WE SAW IN THE LAST GRAPH, THE WATER, THE ACTUAL WATER USAGE REMAINED ESSENTIALLY FLAT. AND SO THERE'S SOME VARIABLES THAT FACTOR INTO THAT CONSERVATION AS WELL AS WATER RESTRICTIONS THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THIS IS ON THE HISTORICAL AND CURRENT DEMAND.

[03:10:02]

TIM SERVED AS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR WATER UTILITIES. I WILL SAY IRRIGATION FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IS THE NUMBER ONE CONSUMER THAT CREATES THIS PEAKING FACTORS WITHIN OUR SYSTEM. AND THOSE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN AT THAT TIME WERE ACTIVELY PATROLLING WITH WITH STAFF ALMOST 24 HOURS A DAY. AND WE WERE APPROACHING THAT MAINLY THROUGH EDUCATION. SO WE WOULD PUT DOOR HANGERS, SPEAK WITH RESIDENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND IT DID HAVE A DRAMATIC IMPACT TO OUR DEMANDS, AS YOU SAW ON THE GRAPH. OKAY.

BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO FIGURE OUT THEN WHAT ARE POTENTIAL FUTURE THINGS THAT WE COULD ADOPT. SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE A CONSISTENT MORE SAVING IN OUR SUPPLY, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY IF WE KNOW IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE EVEN MORE LIMITED AS WE CONTINUE GROWING AND EXPANDING AND PEOPLE CONTINUE MOVING IN AND WHATNOT. SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION TOO, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN HARPER WAS HERE AND WE WENT FROM ONE STAGE TO ANOTHER, WE HAD TO CUT DOWN ON CONSTRUCTION USING THE WATER. AND THAT WAS LIKE HUGE. THAT WAS A BIG CHANGE IN OUR WATER USE. AND AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT WAS FOR. AND SO I MET WITH, I THINK IT WAS AMBER AND HARPER. AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT WAS IT? WHAT DID WE DO TO CUT BACK ON THIS WATER SO MUCH? AND THEY WERE LIKE, IT WAS WE DIDN'T ALLOW CONSTRUCTION WORKERS TO COME IN AND USE OUR CITY WATER. SO I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE THAT DATA SOMEWHERE AS WELL. BUT IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF USE. AND SO I THINK I'M NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE TO DO NOW, BUT AT ONE POINT THEY WOULD HAVE TO TRUCK IN THEIR OWN WATER TO DO THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION FOR NON CYP, NON CITY CIP PROJECTS. THAT IS STILL THE CASE. THAT WAS THAT WAS EFFECTIVE IN SEPTEMBER OF 23 THAT WE STOPPED CONSTRUCTION WATER. OKAY. OUR POTABLE WATER FOR CONSTRUCTION PURPOSES. AND THAT'S STILL IN PLACE FOR NON CITY CIP PROJECTS. THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THIS THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS THE CITY'S CURRENT WATER SUPPLY PORTFOLIO. ON THE LEFT IS THE DIFFERENT WATER SUPPLIERS MAKING UP THE TOTAL PERMITTED SUPPLY WHICH IS 9.2 MGD. ON THE RIGHT IS THE TOTAL FIRM SUPPLY WHICH EQUALS UP TO 6.69 MGD. SINCE THE PREVIOUS WATER MASTER PLAN, THE CITY HAS. THE ALLIANCE PHASE ONE B PROJECT HAS COME ONLINE, AS WELL AS OTHER PARTNER AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER ALLIANCE PARTICIPANTS, AND SO THAT THOSE ADDITIONAL PIECES OF THE PORTFOLIO ARE IDENTIFIED AS CALLED OUT IN RED ON THIS SLIDE. AND THE ONE THING I'LL FOCUS ON HERE FOR THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND IS THERE ARE TWO WATER SUPPLY SOURCES THAT THE CITY HAS PERMITS FOR GROUNDWATER FOR THE FROM THE EDWARDS AQUIFER AUTHORITY AND THE BARTON SPRINGS EDWARDS AQUIFER CONSERVATION DISTRICT THAT ARE A SMALLER PIECE OF THE PIE FOR THE ANNUAL AVERAGE SUPPLY. BUT FOR A MAXIMUM DAY, THEY PROVIDE TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THE CITY. AND SO THOSE TWO, WHILE THEY'RE 0.22 AND 0.23 MGD ON AN AVERAGE BASIS DURING THOSE PEAK SUMMER MONTHS, THEY CAN DELIVER CLOSE TO A COMBINED 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. AND SO THAT PROVIDES A CITY WITH A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. SO GETTING INTO THE UPDATES OF THE WATER DEMANDS, WE WE COORDINATED WITH THE THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAMS, AS WELL AS OTHER CITY STAFF TO REALLY FOCUS IN, AS I MENTIONED, ON THE TIMING AND LOUIS UPDATES FOR THE KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE REMAINING BUILD OUT AREAS OF KYLE ARE ARE FOR AREAS OF KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS WITH SOME PLANS IN SOME FORM OF PROGRESS. AND SO WE UPDATED THE DURATIONS AND ALSO CONFIRMED THE LOUIS. BASED ON RECENT TRENDS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. ONE OF THE RESULTS WAS THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT WITHIN THE WATER SERVICE AREA, SHIFTED FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY 2048 TO 2060. AND OVERALL, THE THE GROWTH CURVE

[03:15:09]

THANK YOU. GREAT POINT. I THINK THE OPENING. SUBSTATION IS GOING TO IS TO TO HELP OUT WITH THAT BELIEF, CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THE RESULTS OF THE WATER DEMAND PROJECTION UPDATES ARE ARE SHOWN IN THE TABLE AT THE TOP. IT WAS BROKEN OUT INTO FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS AND AVERAGE SO THAT THE THE GROWTH RATE WASN'T BOUNCING AROUND, BUT THE RATES BETWEEN 2026 AND 2040 WERE BASED ON THOSE THOSE KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS. AND THEN TOWARDS THE 2040 AND BEYOND. THE SOME OF THE KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS CONTINUED, WHICH WAS A NEW COMPONENT TO THIS UPDATE. PREVIOUSLY, THE KNOWN DEVELOPMENTS WERE ESSENTIALLY

[03:20:05]

DOES OUR NEW LOUIS RESERVATION PRACTICE IMPACT THIS AT ALL? WHY WAS THAT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? IT. IT WILL EVENTUALLY. ONCE WE ROLL THAT OUT, IT WILL ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPERS TO REEXAMINE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING FROM THE CITY, BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SO THEY WON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LARGE ASK WE EXPECT BECAUSE THEY WON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY WON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT. SO ONCE WE ROLL THAT OUT, IT WILL. BUT IN THIS PROJECTION, NO. OKAY. BUT I GUESS UNDER THAT ASSUMPTION WE ARE THINKING THAT THEY MIGHT COME BACK AT A LOWER INSTEAD OF CONTINUOUSLY ASKING FOR THE HIGHER END. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT OUR WATER DEMAND PROJECTIONS COULD DECREASE AS A RESULT OF THAT? YES, YES. OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN MIND THEN, TOO, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A LARGER TOPIC. SO SAYING THAT CITY OF KYLE IS GOING TO GROW OUT TO BE 220,000 PEOPLE BY 2060. I JUST TOOK THE NUMBER TIMES THREE. 220. OKAY. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SAN MARCOS IS EVEN BY THAT TIME GOING TO BE MUCH. MUCH BIGGER. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT AT SAN MARCOS SIZE. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT'S GOING TO LOOK. IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE 220, LIKE A MAP OF KYLE WITH LIKE 220,000 PEOPLE IN IT AND SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WELL, IF ANYBODY HAD BEEN FOLLOWING THE 2040 PLAN, I KNOW KVUE WAS DOING A BIG STORY ON IT. WE'RE EXPECTED TO BE PROJECTED BETWEEN GEORGETOWN AND SAN ANTONIO OF 9 MILLION BETWEEN HUTTO AND OUR AREA TO CEDAR PARK IN THIS WHOLE GENERAL AREA ITSELF IS ABOUT THE NEXT, WHAT, 20 YEARS? WE'RE PREDICTED TO BE CLOSE TO AROUND 9 MILLION IN THAT AREA. THAT'S WHY 130 IS BEING EXPANDED EVEN FURTHER TO THE COASTAL AREAS, BECAUSE THE PROJECTION IS 130 IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOR HIGHWAY. I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY PREPARED FOR THAT. SO OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW FAR ARE WE, ALONG WITH OUR NEXT WASTEWATER TREATMENT CENTER? NEXT EXPANSION? NO, THE NEXT OUTLET AFTER WE'RE CAPPED AT 12 MILLION PER DAY FROM PLUM CREEK. I'M GOING TO ASK MY. YEAH. BECAUSE I MEAN, YEAH, GO AHEAD. SO WE'RE WRAPPING UP OUR WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN DRAFT NOW WITH STEVE HAPPENS TO BE HERE, BUT WE EXPECT THAT TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION TO COUNCIL THAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING THAT TO COUNCIL. WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON EXACTLY WHEN WE'RE BRINGING THAT TO COUNCIL, BUT IT SHOULD BE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR. OKAY. BECAUSE MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR WASTEWATER OUT? EVEN IF WE HAVE PURPLE PIPE, EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO REUSE, WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE TO HAVE 220,000 PEOPLE AND HAVE JUST PLUM CREEK AS, AS WASTEWATER OUTLET? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. RIGHT? AND SO, AND THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT INTERNALLY AS WELL IS, YES, WE'RE CAPPED ON WHAT WE COULD PUT IN THE CREEK AT THIS TIME. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T GO FOR ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO THAT PERMIT FOR THE EXISTING FACILITY. BUT ALSO IF YOU HAVE A LOCATION THAT THAT RECLAIMED WATER OR EFFLUENT CAN BE COMMITTED TO UNDER CONTRACT, AND TC RECOGNIZES THAT YOU CAN

[03:25:07]

AND I JUST LOOKED AT THAT NUMBER AND I THOUGHT 220,000. WOW. WHAT'S THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IF WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T GET ON IT YESTERDAY. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT POINT. AND ONE THING WE COULD PROVIDE IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS THAT NUMBER OF LOUIS ALSO INCLUDES BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS AND OFFICE BUILDINGS. AND SO A PORTION OF THAT IS PEOPLE. AND IT JUST REPRESENTS THE COMPLETE WATER DEMAND. AND SO WE COULD BREAK THAT OUT INTO RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, MULTIFAMILY OR I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. YEAH, YOU COULD JUST DO THAT. THAT'D BE GREAT. 20, 50, 20, 60 IS A LOT CLOSER THAN I KNOW YOU THINK IT IS. I KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, AUSTIN SAN ANTONIO CORRIDOR IN CENTRAL TEXAS IS PROJECTED TO GROW 5.3 MILLION TO 8.3 MILLION BY 2050. THIS. THIS PROVIDES A SIDE BY SIDE SNAPSHOT OF THE PREVIOUS PROJECTIONS AND GROWTH RATES, ALSO IN FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS AND THE CURRENT UPDATE. THIS IS AGAIN STILL IN PROGRESS, BUT THIS IS THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE 2026 MASTER PLAN UPDATE PROJECTIONS. AND SO IT IT IS EASED AS MENTIONED EARLIER, IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE PER YEAR AS THE CITY APPROACHES BUILDOUT IN 2060, AGAIN, LARGELY DRIVEN BY A HANDFUL OF THE VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED WITHIN THE CITY. AND AGAIN, THE BUILD OUT YEAR OF 2060. AND SO GRAPHICALLY, THIS IS THE THE DIFFERENCE. THE GRAY LINE AT THE TOP IS THE PREVIOUS DEMAND PROJECTIONS ON A CURVE. THE THE Y AXIS ON THE LEFT IS THE PROJECTIONS IN MGD. AND THEN ALONG THE BOTTOM IS JUST THE CALENDAR YEAR. AND SO BUILD OUT IN 2048 WAS DRIVEN BY SOME VERY CONTINUED AND AGGRESSIVE GROWTH EARLY ON. AND SO BEYOND 2030 THERE, THERE DOES START TO BE A DIVERGENCE AS THOSE RATES EASE BEFORE REACHING BUILD OUT IN 2060. THE I WANT TO POINT OUT THE LOWER LINE IN ORANGE. THIS IS THE PROJECTED ANNUAL AVERAGE DEMANDS WITH A 20% REDUCTION, AND THAT IS TO REPRESENT CONSERVATION WATER RESTRICTIONS.

AND SO RECOGNIZING THAT WHEN THE CITY'S WATER SUPPLIES ARE REDUCED DUE TO DROUGHT, THAT RESTRICTIONS AND REDUCTIONS WILL WILL LIKELY BE IN PLACE. AND SO THAT 20% REDUCTION REPRESENTS THAT CONSERVATION AND WATER RESTRICTIONS. AND SO THAT BETWEEN THE ORANGE AND THE YELLOW IS SOMETHING OF A RANGE THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED IN TIMES OF DROUGHT. AND THE SLIDE ON THE OR THE GRAPH ON THE RIGHT IS THE MAXIMUM DAY DEMAND PROJECTIONS. IT MIMICS THE SAME GROWTH RATES, BUT HAS THE 1.69 FACTOR FOR THE MAX DAY. AND SO NEXT WE'LL SHOW THE DEMANDS AS IT RELATES TO THE CITY'S EXISTING AND PLANNED SUPPLIES, AS WELL AS THROUGH BUILD OUT SOME OF THE THE NEEDS. AND SO LOOKING AT THE NEXT TEN YEARS, THE BLACK LINE IS THE DEMAND PROJECTIONS AND THE ORANGE LINE IS THAT KIND OF REDUCED CONSERVATION AND REDUCTION LINE.

THE DARK BLUE BLOCKS ARE THE FIRM SUPPLY, AND THEN THE LIGHT BLUE IS THE TOTAL PERMITTED.

THERE ARE SOME UPDATES THAT WILL OCCUR THAT ARE KNOWN TODAY THAT ARE IDENTIFIED WITH THE RED DELINEATORS AT THE END OF OR IN 2026. ANTICIPATE THAT THE SHORT TERM AGREEMENT WITH SAN

[03:30:05]

IT ALSO INCLUDES AN UPDATE TO THE HYDRAULIC MODEL. AND SO WITH THAT, WE'RE INCORPORATING THE FUTURE DEMANDS NOT JUST THE TOTAL QUANTITY, BUT ALSO THE LOCATIONS OF WHERE THOSE DEMANDS ARE OCCURRING. AND SO THAT DRIVES THE TIMING OF THE PROJECTS. AND SO WE ARE TAKING A FRESH LOOK AT THAT AND THEN CONTINUING TO FINALIZE THESE THESE PROJECTIONS AND THEN COMPLETE THE DOCUMENT AND SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY FOR COMMENT. SO WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE. THANK YOU BRIAN. APPRECIATE THAT. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON IN THIS CONTINUING THIS PRESENTATION. MAYOR, ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS ON WASTEWATER. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SECTION AT THE VERY END OF THIS PRESENTATION TO TALK ABOUT IPR, DPR TO ADDRESS THE WASTEWATER CHALLENGES IN ADDITION TO THE WATER CHALLENGES, TOO. SO WE'LL WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. SO NEXT ON THE LIST, WE'VE GOT NRA AND OASIS RIVER AUTHORITY. JOHN BYROM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, IS GOING TO BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE, AND HE'S GOT WITH HIM JOHN CHISHOLM, WHO IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR, AND THEN MARK ELLISON, WHO IS WITH THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE FOR THE THE FUTURE DESALINATION PLANT.

[03:35:02]

THE FIRST PAYMENT THAT WAS MADE IN OCTOBER 25TH WAS $273,000. THE SECOND PAYMENT IS DUE OCTOBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR. OKAY, SO HERE WE GO. THIS KIND OF GETS YOU UPDATED AND IT'S JUST JUST A LEFT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT. I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE NEW WATER FOR SOUTH TEXAS PROJECT. AND YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT YOUR WATER DEMAND HERE. DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. STEVIE DID. AND WHAT I WANT TO DO IS LOOK AT WATER DEMANDS FOR A BIGGER REGION AND KIND OF TELL YOU ABOUT THAT AND HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE PROJECT AND HOW WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THE PROJECT. SO NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY, I MAY CALL IT NRA. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE RIFLE ASSOCIATION. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE RIVER AUTHORITY TONIGHT. SO NUECES RIVER AUTHORITY IS WAS FORMED BACK IN 1935. WE FUNCTION AS A REGIONAL WATER RESOURCE PLANNING AGENCY. PRIMARILY. WE ENCOMPASS ALL OR PARTS OF 21 COUNTIES IN SOUTHWEST TEXAS AND SOME 17,500 OR 17,000MI■!S. I'M GOVERNED. I WORKED FOR A BOARD APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS WITH CONSENT OF THE SENATE, AND THERE'S 21 OF THOSE DIRECTORS. WE WERE FORMED TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE AND DEVELOP WATER RESOURCES IN THE AREA. BUT IF IT SAYS FLOOD, IRRIGATION, NAVIGATION, WATER SUPPLY, WASTEWATER TREATMENT, OR WATER QUALITY, WE. WE ARE ENABLED TO DO THAT BY OUR LEGISLATION AS PART OF THE PLANNING PORTION OF WHAT WE DO. WE'RE THE POLITICAL SPONSOR FOR THE REGION, AND THERE'S 16 REGIONAL PLANNING AREAS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE REGION IN. IS THE ONE DOWN AROUND THE CORPUS CHRISTI AREA ENCOMPASSES ABOUT 13 COUNTIES DOWN THERE. WE ARE THE SPONSOR FOR THAT, AND I'M A VOTING MEMBER OF THE REGION L, WHICH IS OUT OF THE SAN ANTONIO AREA, DOWN TO VICTORIA, OVER TO UVALDE. SO FOR 91 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN PROTECTING THE RESOURCES IN THE BASIN. WE EARN OUR REVENUE THROUGH CONTRACTS THAT WE SIGN. WE DO NOT. WE HAVE TAXING AUTHORITY, BUT WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLANNING AREA AND THE PLANNING FOR THE REGION AND HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE PROJECT. YOU KNOW, THE TEXAS THE WATER FOR TEXAS PLAN, THE STATE WATER PLAN OF TEXAS WAS DEVELOPED BY THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT PLAN. IT LOOKS AT CURRENT. POPULATION GROWTH AND CURRENT WATER DEMANDS. AND IT'S DATA DRIVEN. AND WE PROJECT THAT OUT FOR 50 YEARS. IT'S DONE IN FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS. SO WE ARE IN ABOUT THE SIXTH PLANNING CYCLE OF THAT. I BELIEVE WE'RE STARTING THE SIXTH. AND IT LOOKS AT THOSE DEMANDS. AND IN 16 DIFFERENT AREAS, IT TAKES THOSE 16 REPORTS AND PUT IT INTO ONE. AND THAT'S YOUR STATE WATER PLAN FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS. SO WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT 2080. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT REGION L AND REGION N. THAT'S A COMBINED THERE OF THE 202 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY IN 2030. AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HUGE MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT IN 2080 BY 508 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. SO THERE WAS A NEED FOR WATER. AND IN THE AREA WE LOOKED AT THAT AS A LARGER REGION. WE ONE OF THE THINGS I DIDN'T COVER ARE ENABLING LEGISLATION ALLOWS US TO WORK INSIDE THAT 1700 ZERO SQUARE MILES, BUT WE CAN WORK OUTSIDE THAT AT ANYBODY'S REQUEST. WE CAN GO OUTSIDE OF THAT. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT THE LARGER REGION, BECAUSE WE HAD HAD LOTS OF REQUESTS. SO. THE WATER PLANNING, THE WATER PLAN ACTUALLY LOOKS AT NEW WATER SUPPLIES. BY LOOKING AT EACH WATER PURVEYOR, THEY TURN IN SUPPLIES IN WAYS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MEET THEIR FUTURE DEMANDS. AND IT CAN BE ANY ONE OF THESE. A NEW RESERVOIR, SEAWATER DESALINATION, AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY, BRACKISH GROUNDWATER, FRESH GROUNDWATER REUSE AND OTHER. AND IF YOU START LOOKING AT THESE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF PLANS THERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK OUR STATE WATER PLAN HAS HAS FAILED US IS THAT NOT IN THE PLANNING PORTION OF IT, BUT IT'S IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PART OF IT. YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU TRY TO PLAN A WATER PROJECT IN A WATER SUPPLY, IT TAKES YEARS TO BUILD THOSE THINGS. AND IT

[03:40:06]

AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS OF BACK AND FORTH, BOTH BOARDS AGREED THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO PURSUE. SO WE GOT A 50 YEAR AGREEMENT WITH THE PORT OF CORPUS CHRISTI TO LEASE THAT 30 ACRES OUT ON THE HARBOR ISLAND WITH A 30 YEAR EXTENSION. SO IT'S AN 80 YEAR LIFE OF THE PLANT. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THAT IS WHAT MOST THAT OUTLIVES MOST PLANTS, BASICALLY THE 80 YEARS. SO WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD AND OPERATE. IT INCLUDES THE WATER PIPELINE EASEMENT COMING OFF OF THAT UNDER REDFISH BAY GOING INTO ARANSAS PASS. AND ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL EVENTUALLY BE OWNED BY NRA. THE PORT IS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PERMITS AND THE WATER RIGHTS PERMITS FOR THE FACILITY. AND THOSE ARE CONVEYED THROUGH THE LEASE TO THE NRA. SO WE LOOKED AT HOW THE HOW TO SIZE THIS THING. AND OF COURSE, WE USED THE SIZE WE COULDN'T COME UP WITH ANY BIGGER THAN 100 RIGHT OFF THE BAT. BUT WE FELT LIKE THAT THERE WAS 100 MILLION GALLONS A DAY NEEDED IN THIS REGION. AND WE FOUND THAT TO BE WRONG BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY MORE THAN THAT NEEDED. AND WE'VE HAD REQUESTS FOR MORE THAN 100. WE COULD PROBABLY FILL RESERVATIONS TO 150, 160 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE PERMITS FOR 100. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE DECIDED TO TAKE THERE'S TWO REASONS. WE WENT WITH THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ON THIS THING. THE FIRST THING WAS THAT IN OUR RESEARCH, WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS NO ONE, NO MUNICIPAL WATER SUPPLY THAT WE COULD FIND IN THE GLOBE AROUND THE WORLD THAT WAS OPERATING THEIR OWN SEAWATER DESAL PERMIT OR PLANT. THEY ARE VERY FINICKY. THE LIFE OF THESE ARE THE MEMBRANES, AND YOU'VE GOT TO TREAT THE WATER RIGHT TO GET THERE. EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A A WATER LICENSE AND A WASTEWATER LICENSE, I JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS THE THING TO DO IS GO GET SOMEONE THAT HAD THE EXPERIENCE TO BUILD THE PLANT, FINANCE THE PLANT, AND OPERATE IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS. THE SECOND REASON WAS THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAS GOT A HUGE DEMAND FOR THEIR MONIES. YOU KNOW, SWIFT MONIES. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE SWIFT FUND, THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY BEFORE THEY RAN OUT OF REQUESTS. SO WE WERE LEFT OUT OF THAT REQUEST. WE FINISHED 13 OUT OF I THINK THERE'S 28, 26, 28, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO ANYWAY, WE MISSED THAT BOAT. SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE FINANCE THE PLANT PORTION OF IT TAKES, IT TAKES A BIG LOAD OFF OF THE, OFF OF THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

SO THOSE WERE THE TWO REASONS. MAINLY WE CAME UP WITH THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. SO OUR PARTNER, WHICH WE SELECTED WAS EYED. AND WE'LL LET THEM TALK TO YOU HERE IN A MINUTE.

BUT THEY WERE THERE IN THEIR AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM. THEY ARE TO FINANCE, DESIGN, BUILD AND OPERATE THE PLANT PORTION, THE 100 MILLION GALLON A DAY PLANT AND THE OFF.

TAKE THE INTAKE AND BRINE DISPERSION PORTIONS OF THAT. THE PIPELINE WILL BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE NRA. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PERMITS. AND I'LL I'LL GET YOU ON THOSE. I'LL UPDATE YOU ON THOSE IN JUST A SECOND. BUT THAT IS WHAT OUR INTAKE STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S AT A -67FT OUT INTO THE GULF OF AMERICA. AND IT TURNS UP. AND WHEN IT TURNS UP, IT GOES. AND IT WILL RAISE AT ABOUT 5 TO 7FT ABOVE THE IN THAT 37 FOOT OF WATER THERE.

AND THAT STRUCTURE WILL LOOK LIKE THIS WITH A HALF A FOOT PER SECOND ACROSS THOSE SCREENS, SO THAT THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL LIFE, NO FISH LIFE, NO BIOLOGY THAT WE ARE

[03:45:01]

AND WE SHOULD RECEIVE THAT AT THAT TIME. WE GOT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM A COASTAL FISHING GROUP THAT. AND THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF OUR TAKING THE DISCHARGE AND THE DIVERSION .1.65 MILES OFFSHORE. SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT'LL BE GRANTED ON THE SEPTEMBER 23RD. AND THAT'LL BE THE LAST PERMIT THAT WE NEED. WATER. YOU KNOW, I HEAR ALL THE TIME HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO COST? WELL, FIRST FIRST AND FOREMOST IS HALF THE COST IS GOING TO BE THE FINANCING COST. IT'S GOING TO BE BORNE BY THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER AND THE OTHER HALF BY THE REGION THAT WE ARE TAKING IN WORLDWIDE. IT'S BETWEEN 10 AND 15 BUCKS. WE HOPE TO BE IN THERE. OUR PRELIMINARY PLANNING SHOWS THAT WE WILL BE WE'LL KNOW AS WE GET FURTHER DOWN. YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE BIG PROJECTS YOU'VE GOT, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE COMING UP.

IT'S MUCH NEEDED TO THE PROJECT. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE TO BUY THE COIL WINS THE WINS THE LOTTERY ON THE COIL, ON THE STEEL COIL. YOU KNOW, PRICES CAN GO UP. THAT'S ALL SUPPLY AND DEMAND. SO, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMING ON A LOT OF THIS. JUST WHAT THIS WHAT ANY OF THIS WATER IS GOING TO COST. BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COST AND WHAT WE KNOW OF IT. NOW. WE HAVE CHARGED A MICHAEL MURPHY TOLD YOU ABOUT THE RESERVATION FEE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CHARGING FOR THE BUY IN SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD. ALL 100% OF THIS IS SOLD AND PAID FOR. NOW, THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THIS. I LEFT OUT COUNTY LINE. THEY HAVE A WATER RESERVATION WITH US TOO, AND THEY ARE PAID UP IN CURRENT WITH US. SO THEY ARE LEFT OFF OF THIS. AND IT'S IT'S MY MY MISTAKE THERE. BUT WE DO HAVE EVERYBODY. THOSE ARE THAT'S WHO SIGNED UP FOR RESERVATIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE SELECTION OF A PARTNER. WHAT WE DID IS ONE OTHER THING IN THE PARTNER.

WHEN YOU HAVE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP LIKE WE HAVE, THEN YOU CAN GO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, WHETHER YOU'RE BUILDING A WATER PROJECT OR NOT. BUT ALTHOUGH THIS HAS ENERGY IMPLICATIONS TO IT, IF WE DON'T GIVE WATER TO THE COASTAL BEND AREA AND YOU CAN GET WATER, YOU CAN GET MONEY FINANCED AT 3/8 OVER THE TREASURY RATE. OKAY. WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM NEXT THURSDAY TO DISCUSS THAT. WE HAD INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. NOW THAT WE HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THEM. AND THAT IS THE CHEAPEST FINANCING THAT I CAN FIND ANYWHERE. 3/8 OVER TREASURY. THAT'S PRETTY CHEAP. SO THAT'LL HELP US WITH THE COST. BUT THE BIG THING THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, THAT THE BOARD WAS LOOKING FOR IN FINDING A PARTNER WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS DONE THIS FOR MANY YEARS, TREATED SEA WATER DESAL, SOMEBODY THAT KNEW HOW TO TREAT THAT WATER BEFORE IT GOT TO THOSE MEMBRANES AND PROTECT THOSE MEMBRANES, AND GOT BETTER THAN AVERAGE SERVICE LIFE OUT OF THOSE MEMBRANES. AND SOMEONE THAT HAD, YOU KNOW, BUILT MULTIPLE PLANTS AROUND THE WORLD, WE DECIDED ON IDE TECHNOLOGIES AND THEIR WATER ASSETS COMPANY HERE IN THE US. THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THE PLANT AS HARBOR ISLAND DESAL PARTNERS. THEY FORMED A INCORPORATED, AN AMERICAN COMPANY TO DO THAT IS A FULL SUBSIDIARY OF IDE. AND THEY HAVE DONE THIS 400 TIMES AROUND

[03:50:01]

SO IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO, TO BRING THAT UP AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHY THEY WERE SELECTED. MARK ELLISON IS THE TEXAS REPRESENTATIVE FOR ID, AND HE'S GOING TO HE'S GOT A COUPLE OF SLIDES HERE. HE'S GOING TO GO OVER WITH YOU. THANK YOU, JOHN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING US TO COME VISIT WITH YOU. I WANT TO START BY CONGRATULATING YOU FOR DOING WHAT. UNFORTUNATELY, NOT EVERY COMMUNITY IS DOING. TEXAS.

AS YOU'RE LOOKING OVER THE HORIZON AT WHAT'S COMING AND THE GROWTH AND CERTAINLY IN THE TEXAS TRIANGLE, WHICH I LIVE IN ABOUT TEN MILES UP HERE AND GREW UP IN THE MIDDLE OF IN MILAM COUNTY, I FEEL IT AND SEE IT EVERY DAY. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT BEING PART OF THIS PROJECT. I'D IS. AS JOHN SAID, IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE THE EARLY 60S. WE'VE DONE PROJECTS AROUND THE WORLD, HELPED DEVELOP REVERSE OSMOSIS. ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO. AND SO BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THE TABLE, TO THE TABLE. WE'RE COMMITTED TO TEXAS. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING IN THE REGION FOR OVER A DECADE TO FIND THE RIGHT PLACE AND THE RIGHT PARTNER TO GO, TO GO WITH. AND OF COURSE, THE, THE, THE DROUGHT OF 2011 WAS ONE BIG CATALYST THAT WE ALL FELT. AND CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE IN THE CORPUS CHRISTI AREA AND THROUGHOUT THE BASIN HERE THIS PAST YEAR GOT TO THE EDGE. AND I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNOR AND OTHER LEADERSHIP IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WANT THAT TO HAPPEN ANYWHERE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE COAST AND CERTAINLY IN THIS STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT AND ECONOMICALLY VIBRANT PART OF THE STATE THAT YOU LIVE IN, OUR COMPANY IS GOING TO BRING THAT EXPERTISE TO THE TABLE WITH OUR CAPITAL, WITH OUR KNOW HOW, OUR WORK THAT WE'RE DOING NOW IN DESIGNING THE PLANT, WHICH WE'RE WELL ALONG OUR IN PICKING OUR PARTNERS, THAT'S ON US. WE TAKE THAT RISK, WE MAKE THAT FINANCING. WE, WE COME WITH A GUARANTEE TO DELIVER WATER TO OUR CUSTOMER. LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS IS WORKING AT A SITE IN THE US. AND THAT'S IN CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA. AT SAN DIEGO COUNTY, WE DESIGNED AND WE OPERATE A 55 MGD PLANT THERE. OUR ONE CUSTOMER IS SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY. WE SUPPLY 12% OF THEIR WATER SUPPLY. AND HENCE, AS THEY GO, THEY BLEND THAT WITH THEIR OTHER WATERS, JUST LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO DO HERE. THEY BLEND THAT WATER AND THEY BLEND THE PRICE. AND SO WHAT IT IS, IS SEA WATER. DESAL IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD LOOK AT AS AN INSURANCE POLICY. THE GULF IS GOING TO BE THERE. IT'S NOT RAIN DEPENDENT. AND SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT IN YOUR POCKET AND TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN THE MIX THAT YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING ON HERE SO THAT IT WILL BE THERE. OUR PLANTS WILL BE BUILT IN AN EXPANDABLE PORTION THERE. THEY'RE A MODULAR DESIGN.

I CALL THEM, YOU KNOW, THE LEGOS DESAL PLANT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH AT ABOUT 50 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AND THEN BE ABLE TO MOVE IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 100, AND THEN FEED IT INTO THIS NETWORK, THIS SYSTEM THAT INARA IS CREATING THAT SYSTEM EFFECTIVELY IS A GRID IS WHAT WE'RE CREATING, OR AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM FOR WATER SUPPLY. TEXAS HAS NOW A SYSTEM THAT'S A LITTLE DISJOINTED. AND SO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO AND WHAT AT THE DIRECTION OF THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR OF THIS LAST SESSION IS TO TO THINK ON A REGIONAL BASIS, TO DEFINE, TO TO BEGIN DEVELOPING A WATER GRID SYSTEM THAT HELPS ALL THE COMMUNITIES AND THE, ALL THE TYPES OF THE CUSTOMERS. AND SO THAT'S A BIT ABOUT US. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING ALL OUR EXPERTISE. WE'RE ALREADY MEETING WITH POTENTIAL PARTNERS, WHICH WE WANT TO FIND PEOPLE AS CLOSE TO HOME AS POSSIBLE WHO'VE WORKED IN THE AREA AND WHO UNDERSTAND THE REGION AND THE STATE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE TO WORK WITH OUR CUSTOMERS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THEY NEED AND TO ALWAYS

[03:55:05]

AND THEN, I'M SORRY, THE END OF 2029, FIRST QUARTER OF 2030. AND THEN BY THAT TIME, WE WILL BE CONSTRUCTING THE REMAINING COUNTIES, WHICH INCLUDES KYLE WILL BE UNDER FINAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION THERE AND HAVE THE WATER UP INTO THIS AREA AROUND 2032. THAT'S THE PLAN.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME TO YOU IN ABOUT SIX MORE MONTHS, 4 TO 6 MORE MONTHS, AND HAVE A PRICE THAT WE WILL NOT EXCEED, SO THAT YOU GUYS COULD CONSIDER THAT AND KNOW WHAT THAT PRICE LOOKS LIKE GOING FORWARD. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER MEDINA? SO LET ME GET MY THOUGHT PROCESS IN ORDER HERE. BACK IN OCTOBER OF 25, WHEN YOU GUYS CAME AND PRESENTED, I THINK AT THE TIME IT WAS THE CEO, MR. PRESCOTT. AT THAT TIME, I THINK HE SAID THAT YOU GUYS WERE AT THE LAST 90%. SO WE WERE GETTING THE LAST 10%. THAT WAS FINISHING OUT THE RESERVATIONS. BUT UNLESS THE NUMBERS ARE INCORRECT OR THE INFORMATION IS INCORRECT THAT I GOT, YOU STILL WENT ON IN MARCH AND APRIL OF THIS YEAR TO SELL SOME OTHER RESERVATIONS TO THREE RIVERS COUNTY LINE AND CRYSTAL CLEAR. ARE YOU MAYBE OVER RESERVING JUST IN CASE PEOPLE DROP OUT? OR HAVE PEOPLE DROPPED OUT, OR WAS THAT INFORMATION NOT CORRECT? NO, MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TRAVIS GOT THAT INFORMATION FROM, BUT IT CERTAINLY WASN'T FROM ME. I, I APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS MISLEADING IN THAT. BUT NO, WE WE HAVE SOLD THE 100 MILLION AND. RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A COUPLE SMALL ONES THAT DON'T WANT TO RENEW, YOU KNOW, LIKE EL OSO AND A COUPLE UP THE LINE THERE THAT DIDN'T WANT TO DO THEIRS. AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM FINDING PEOPLE FINDING TAKERS FOR THAT. BUT NO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I WAS CAUTIOUS ABOUT ALL THE WAY THROUGH IS WE CAN'T OVER SELL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T OUTDO YOUR PERMIT, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN THOUGH THE PERMIT CALLS FOR A DISCHARGE, THE DISCHARGE PERMIT IS 191 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, THAT DEPENDS ON THE EFFICIENCY THAT THEY COME UP WITH IN THEIR IN THEIR DESAL PROCESS, WHICH I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY BEAT THAT. BUT STILL, I DON'T WANT TO EXCEED THAT. THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO THAT HELPS THERE. AND AS FAR AS NOT RENEWING THE CONTRACT AND THE PRESENTATION GIVEN BACK AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT SAID WITHIN THE YEAR. SO BEFORE OCTOBER, SOMETHING OF THIS YEAR, IF THE CITY OF KYLE DECIDED NOT TO PAY THE SECOND HALF, WOULD THAT FIRST HALF THAT WE PAID OUT BE REVERSED BACK TO US, OR IS THAT JUST MONEY LOST? IT'S IT'S NONREFUNDABLE, MA'AM. AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO DO FOR ONE WHAT I HAVE TO DO FOR. ALL RIGHT. AND WE'VE HAD THAT REQUEST COME UP IN ONE OTHER PLACE AND I COULDN'T I COULDN'T DO IT THERE. THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI WANTED TO KNOW THEY THEY RESERVED 50 MILLION GALLONS A DAY, AND THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF THEY CAME BACK. AND THEN THEY ENDED UP PAYING BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. SO ANYWAY, I JUST CAN'T DO THAT. YEAH. JUST TRYING TO MAKE UNDERSTANDING OF IT BECAUSE IN THE PRESENTATION, IT JUST SIMPLY SAID OUT CLAUSE VALID FOR ONE YEAR UPON EXECUTION. IT DIDN'T SAY WITH REFUND OR NOT REFUND. NONE OF THAT WAS CLEAR IN THE PRESENTATION. THEN I WASN'T ON COUNCIL THEN, SO I WASN'T PART OF THE DISCUSSION. SO I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND FOR SURE WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THAT POINT. AND OUR INTENTION IS, IS THAT YOU PAY THESE THESE TWO YEARS THAT PAY THE FIRST AND THE SECOND, AND THEN YOU DON'T PAY AGAIN UNTIL YOU'RE DRAWING WATER FROM THE FROM THE SYSTEM.

[04:00:07]

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY. THERE'S BEEN SOME SPECULATION IN THE MEDIA THAT 100 MILLION GALLONS A DAY IS OVERLY AMBITIOUS. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US THAT WOULD GIVE US COMFORT AND CONFIDENCE THAT THAT YOU CAN DELIVER A PLANT THAT CAN THAT CAN SUPPLY THAT? YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THAT. AND AND EVERYBODY SAYS, WELL, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO FINANCE IT? YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FORMER MAYORS OF CORPUS CHRISTI ALL OVER US ABOUT THAT.

AND HERE'S THE DEAL. YOU KNOW, WE'RE FINANCING THIS IN THE WAY THAT FINANCE WATER PROJECTS.

FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS 46 YEARS. I'VE SEEN IT DONE LIKE THIS MANY TIMES BEFORE. THERE'S VARIATIONS OF IT. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE NOT FINANCING IT FROM WHAT NRA'S REVENUES ARE. WE COULDN'T FINANCE A $6.4 BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT DOING THAT, BUT WE CAN FINANCE IT BASED ON WHAT THE REGION NEEDS AND WHAT THE REGION CAN TAKE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WHEN WHEN WE GET WATER PRICING AGREEMENTS, YOU KNOW, PRICE NOT TO EXCEED TO OUR MEMBER CITIES OR RESERVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESERVED WATER, THAT RIGHT THERE WILL BE USED TO FINANCE THE PROJECT. AND WE'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S OVERAMBITIOUS AT ALL. IN FACT, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY UNDER WHAT IS NEEDED IN THE AREA, EVEN WITH THE OTHER PROJECTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, AND THEY'RE ALL NEEDED. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COMPETE WITH ANYBODY. WE'RE TRYING TO GET A PROJECT OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IT HAPPENED LAST YEAR OR THE LAST SESSION. THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS BIG, HUGE GRID ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE COMING FROM A C WATER DESAL FACILITY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, RESILIENT TO DROUGHTS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. PROBABLY THE FIRST OF MANY THAT WE'LL SEE. YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY WON'T SEE THEM. I'M AN OLD MAN. YOU KNOW, IT'S PAST MY BEDTIME, BY THE WAY. SO BUT I THINK I THINK 100 MILLION GALLONS IS PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH. MORE THAN TOO MUCH. NO, I AGREE, THE DEMAND IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. AND WE WON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM FINANCING THIS. AND WE CAN REPORT THAT AFTER THURSDAY FOR SURE. I THINK NEXT COMING THURSDAY. AND LET ME ADD TO THAT. AND I IN A PREVIOUS LIFE WAS AND I GUESS STILL AM IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. AND I KEEP IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH ALL OF THOSE AROUND THE STATE HERE AND ALONG THE COAST. THERE IS A LONG LIST OF COMPANIES THAT WANT TO COME TO THIS REGION THAT WANT TO COME TO THE COAST, THAT RIGHT NOW, THEIR RED FLAG IS WILL THIS COMMUNITY HAVE WATER? AND WHEN THEY SEE THAT COMMUNITIES LIKE YOURS AND OTHERS HAVE TAKEN THIS STEP, THAT GIVES THEM THE COMFORT TO BE ABLE TO COME AND INVEST THEIR MONEY? AND SO I THINK JOHN'S RIGHT, I THINK 100 MILLION GALLONS. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS OF WHY THAT NUMBER IS THERE FOR THE SITE THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S A GOOD SIZE TO FIT AT THAT SITE. THEY'LL HAVE TO BE OTHERS BUILT IN THE FUTURE. AND THE MAIN THING THAT THAT MAKES IT WORK AND WHERE THE LEVERAGE IS, IS WHAT GBRA IS DOING, WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING AT OTHERS. DIVERSIFICATION. DIVERSIFICATION IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT. AND PEOPLE ASK ABOUT HOW IT WAS DONE IN ISRAEL, WHERE OUR COMPANIES COME. THEY WERE JUST LIKE SO MUCH OF TEXAS. THEY RELIED ON ONE RIVER. OKAY, DIVERSIFICATION IS GOING TO BE CONSERVED. FIRST, REUSE WHERE YOU CAN, BUT YOU'RE TAKING A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE WHEN THOSE NUMBERS SHOW UP OF YOUR FUTURE POPULATION GROWTH, YOU'LL BE PREPARED AS PART OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION DEAL THAT'S TELLING YOU ABOUT BEFORE. IT'S VERY HARD TO IMPLEMENT A PROJECT. GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. TWO YEARS AGO I HAD A FULL HEAD OF HAIR AND IS ALL BLACK. I MEAN, NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. IT'S VERY, VERY HARD TO OVERCOME SOME OF THIS PUBLIC RESISTANCE, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF THAT'S OUT THERE. BUT I THINK THE NUMBERS SHOW WHERE WE'RE AT. AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. IF I CAN MAKE A POINT, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I WENT TO TML AND WE HAD THE DISCUSSION OF THE GROWTH AND WHERE CITIES WERE IN POPULATION. THERE WERE SOME CITIES THAT I WAS FINDING OUT JUST CONVERSATING WITH OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. THEY'RE FIGHTING THESE GROWTH NUMBERS. THEY ARE

[04:05:05]

THEY WON AND THE CITY HAD TO REIMBURSE. BUT NOW, FIVE YEARS LATER, THE ROADS ARE FALLING APART, THE SEWERS ARE FALLING APART. THEY'RE HAVING TO HAVE WATER TRUCKED IN FROM ANOTHER COUNTY, AND THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY EXTRA. AND THEY STILL ARE, JUST LIKE, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING WITH THIS GROWTH. SO THERE'S A MIXTURE OF SOME CITIES IN TEXAS THAT ARE JUST NOT WANTING TO GO GO WITH THE TIMES ON THAT BECAUSE I. AND SO WE ARE DOING OUR BEST BECAUSE WE ARE HEARING THE THE NOISE THAT'S COMING FROM THE NORTH AND THE WEST AND THE EAST THAT'S COMING THIS WAY. AND WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR IT. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'D HEARD THOSE NUMBERS. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THOSE UP. THAT THAT PUTS IT IN REALITY RIGHT THERE, DOESN'T IT? YES IT DOES. WOW. IT SURE IS. AND I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE STORIES. I, I'VE TOLD PEOPLE BEFORE. I USED TO BE ONE OF THOSE C-SPAN GURUS OR GEEKS THAT WOULD JUST WATCH SOME OF THESE SENATE HEARINGS AND SO FORTH. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THESE TYPES OF THINGS TWO YEARS AGO OR MANY YEARS AGO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SITUATION WITH HARVEY. THAT IS WHAT THEY LEARNED. THE BIGGEST LESSON WAS IS THAT WHEN HARVEY HITS THE HURRICANE, THESE INLAND, THESE RESIDENTS FROM THE HOUSTON AND THE COASTAL AREAS HAD NO ARTERIES TO COME INTO INLAND.

SO THEY BEGIN TO REALIZE THAT 130 NEEDS TO BE MORE BRANCHED OUT. BUT AS THEY'RE DOING IT, THEY'RE REALIZING THAT THAT'S WHERE THE POPULATIONS ARE GROWING AS WELL. SO YOU'RE RIGHT, WHEN WHEN COMPANIES SEE THAT AND DEVELOPERS SEE THAT, OR JUST THE POPULATION SEES THAT YOU'VE GOT WATER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR. YES, SIR. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. COUNCILMEMBER ZAPATA. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARILY A QUESTION AS MUCH OF A COMMENT. SO THIS VOTE WAS MADE, LIKE RIGHT BEFORE I JOINED CITY COUNCIL. AND I THINK TO BE CLEAR, I AM 100% AGAINST IT. I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT. I DO NOT SUPPORT DESALINATION, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA. I THE KARANKAWA TRIBE IS VERY ACTIVE. THAT AREA OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS THEIR HOMELAND, AND I'VE PROTESTED ALONGSIDE THAT TRIBE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND PRACTICES THAT THE PETROCHEMICAL INDUSTRY HAS HAD IN THAT AREA. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES BESIDES THE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES IN THIS AREA, BLACK AND LATINO, WHO ARE FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THESE DESALINATION PLANS. I UNDERSTAND THAT IN CORPUS RIGHT NOW, THE MOST CONTENTIOUS ONE IS YOUR INNER HARBOR ONE, THE INNER HARBOR, BECAUSE. YES. AND SO I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS I KNOW. THANK YOU. SO YES, I'M NOT TRYING TO CONFLATE THE TWO. HOWEVER, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THE CITY OF CORPUS CHRISTI IS THEY'RE BEING TOLD, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO DO ONE OF THESE THINGS. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO CHOOSE THE, THE PATH, THE PATH THAT CAN CAUSE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF HARM, BUT IT IS STILL CAUSING HARM. AND SO IN COMPARISON, THIS HARBOR ISLAND DESAL PLANT DOES CREATE LESS HARM UP MORE UP FRONT THAN THE INNER HARBOR DESAL PLANT. BUT IT STILL CREATES HARM AND IT CONTINUES TO EXPLOIT INDIGENOUS WETLANDS AND HOMELANDS. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. WELL, LET ME TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE AT, THE ENERGY THAT WE USE EVERY DAY TO GO TO WORK. YOU KNOW, THE ENERGY WE USE IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AIRPORT, THERE'S A PIPELINE THAT RUNS FROM CORPUS CHRISTI, ONE OF THE REFINERIES IN CORPUS CHRISTI, ALL THE WAY TO DALLAS FORT WORTH. IF THEY HAVE, THEY CAN'T THROTTLE THOSE PLANTS BACK. THEY CAN'T THROTTLE ONE OF THOSE UNITS BACK. THEY HAVE TO SHUT THE ENTIRE UNIT DOWN. SO THERE'S THREE UNITS IN THERE.

IF THEY SHUT ONE OF THOSE UNITS DOWN AT THE FIRST 25% CURTAILMENT, ALL THE FUEL USED IN A DAY'S TIME AT DALLAS FORT WORTH GOES AWAY. ALL OF THE FUEL USED TO MOVE THE CITY OF HOUSTON IN A DAY'S TIME, THAT AMOUNT OF FUEL GOES AWAY. SO IT'S NOT ONLY A CORPUS CHRISTI PROBLEM. IT'S NOT ONLY A STATE OF TEXAS PROBLEM, IT BECOMES A NATIONAL AND SOME TYPE OF WORLD IMPACT GOING ON BECAUSE IT'S A SUPPLY AND DEMAND DEAL, JUST LIKE STEEL, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE OF FUEL IS GOING TO GO UP. SO THAT'S AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR INDUSTRY. I HEARD UP HERE THAT,

[04:10:01]

SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF COLLECTING SOME OF THE SECOND ROUNDS NOW. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WILL RUN OUT TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR. WE DID RECEIVE A GRANT FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, ONE OF THE FIRST STATE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS. WE GOT A $7 MILLION GRANT FOR THAT THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SPENDING DOING SOME MORE ENGINEERING WORK. THE PIPELINE WORK I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT, WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ANOTHER 28 MILLION, WHICH WE'RE HOPING TO GET. WE'VE ALSO APPLIED FOR THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION FOR SOME MONIES FROM THE DESAL WATER FUND THAT THEY. THE SMART WATER FUND IS WHAT THEY CALL IT, AND THEY'VE GOT ONE THAT'S JUST FOR DESAL. AND THEY REMOVED THE CAP OFF OF THAT THIS YEAR. SO THERE'S $120 MILLION THERE. AND WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH OF THAT THAT WE'RE WE'RE AWARDED. OKAY. SO WHERE DO YOU GUYS PLAN TO ACQUIRE THE REST TO BUILD THIS PLANT? WE WE WILL USE THAT MONEY TO GET TO THE POINT OF WHERE WE'VE GOT A NOT TO EXCEED PRICE, WHERE WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE THAT IS DRILLED DOWN FAR ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE A PRICE NOT TO EXCEED WILL COME TO OUR MEMBER CITIES AND WE'LL SAY, WE'VE GOT A WATER PRICING AGREEMENT. HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. WE'LL LET YOU GUYS REVIEW IT. WE'LL TAKE THOSE WATER PRICING AGREEMENTS THAT ARE SIGNED AND USE THOSE TO FINANCE THE PROJECT. SO EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO COST US HOW MUCH. I MEAN, LIKE YOU'RE, IT'S YOU PAY FOR IT, YOU'LL PAY FOR IT AS YOU DRAW WATER FROM THE SYSTEM. OKAY. SO IF YOU YEAH, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT BUILDING IT. SO HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO RAISE 6 TO $7 BILLION? WE'RE GOING TO BORROW MONEY BASED ON THOSE WATER, BASED ON THE WATER PRICING AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR MEMBER CITIES. OKAY. SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BORROW IT FROM? WE'RE GOING TO BORROW FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AT 3/8. JOHN LEMON ALSO MENTIONED TO AS IT RELATES TO THE ACTUAL PLANT ITSELF, THAT'S WHERE THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP COMES IN, IS WE I'D E WILL BE INVESTING OUR MONEY AND OTHER INVESTORS MONEY WHO SEE THIS AS A WORTHY PROJECT THAT'S A FIT FOR THEM. SO IT'S TRULY A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IN THAT SENSE. SO HOW MUCH IS IDX GOING TO PAY? WE'RE A LITTLE UNDER HALF OF IT.

YEAH. THE TOTAL AMOUNT. THE 3.5 BILLION ISH. YEAH. AND WHERE DO YOU GUYS GET THAT MONEY FROM.

WELL FROM OUR COMPANY, OURSELVES AND OTHER INVESTORS WHO SEE THE WATER INDUSTRY AS A PLACE TO MAKE INVESTMENTS. OKAY. THAT'S AM I CORRECT IN SAYING I'D WAS NOT ORIGINALLY INVOLVED WHEN CITY OF KYLE FIRST SIGNED THEIR FIRST AGREEMENT? WE HAD WE HAD NOT BEEN SELECTED AT THAT TIME. CORRECT. WHAT CHANGED? SO IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, MAYOR. THAT WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN AND THAT'S WHY I DESCRIBED IT. SOME OF THAT WAS TO TAKE THAT LOAD OFF THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, WHICH IS RUNNING OUT OF MONEY. THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. EVEN THE $23 BILLION THAT WE VOTED FOR THE OTHER DAY, IF YOU LOOK AT REGIONALS, WATER MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES, THROUGH THAT PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S OVER $23 BILLION. IT'S GONE. SO WE WE FELT LIKE THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP

[04:15:06]

SO IF WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY FROM STAFF OBTAIN THOSE. THE TEXAS TRIBUNE REPORTED THAT THE NRA HAD TO TRANSFER MONEY FROM THE FROM THE DESAL FUND TO THE OPERATING IN ORDER TO KEEP GOING. WELL, I EXPLAIN THAT WE WE DON'T GET WE DON'T HAVE A TAX BASE. WE GET PAID FOR WHAT WE DO. AND IF I SPEND 50% OF MY TIME SELLING DESAL, THEN I OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT FROM THAT FUND. THAT'S THE THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND IT. WE GET PAID FOR WHAT WE DO AND WE HAVE EFFORTS. WE HAVE A LEVEL OF EFFORTS THAT WE FILL OUT EACH EACH MONTH. AND I PUT DOWN WHAT EFFORT I OR WHAT I SPENT MY TIME ON. AND IF THAT'S 40% OF THAT TIME, WELL, THAT'S 40% OF THE TIME. IF IT'S 60% OF THE TIME, IT'S 60% OF THE TIME. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS ALL ABOUT. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY THINK IT WAS A BIG DEAL? WELL, IT'S PART OF WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO EXPLAIN HERE IS WHEN YOU GO TO IMPLEMENT A PROJECT, YOU RUN INTO PEOPLE THAT, HEY, THEY'RE AGAINST THE PROJECT, SO THEY'RE GOING TO FIND A WAY TO THROW A DART AT THE PROJECT. SO YOU THINK THE TEXAS TRIBUNE IS AGAINST THIS PROJECT? NO, I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T THINK THAT. BUT THERE'S PARTS OF IT THAT JUST WEREN'T OUTLINED THE WAY I OUTLINED THEM TO YOU. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T ASK THOSE QUESTIONS DURING THAT INTERVIEW. I WISHED I HAD BEEN OKAY. DO YOU THINK THE CONTRIBUTORS TO THE DESAL FUND SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THOSE FUNDS BEING USED JUST TO OPERATE? NO, MA'AM, NO, MA'AM. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ANYBODY'S GOT QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UP NEXT BEDTIME. JUST KIDDING. NEXT NUMBER FOUR RECEIVER REPORT. HOLD A DISCUSSION AND PROVIDE STAFF FEEDBACK REGARDING THE LAYMAN GROUND STORAGE TANK. OH, WAIT.

OH THERE IS SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY. OKAY, THAT'S A LONG NIGHT. 40 MORE SLIDES TO GO.

OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE TWO MORE. SORRY. YEAH. SO THANK YOU MAYOR. AT THIS POINT WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP A WE'VE GOT THE GENERAL MANAGER AND EXECUTIVE GENERAL MANAGER AND CEO DARYL MITCHELL. AND THEN ALSO I THINK CHARLIE IS GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION. CHARLIE IS THE EXECUTIVE MANAGER OVER ENGINEERING. AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS DIVERSIFICATION, INCREASING OUR PORTFOLIO AND, AND GOING MANY, MANY YEARS INTO THE FUTURE. AND SO GBR HAS GOT A DIFFERENT TAKE ON THIS AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THEIR WATER SECURE PROJECT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND SO. THE. I THINK WE SORT OF WENT THROUGH ALL THAT.

SO IN FALL OF 23, THE GBRA, THE GUADALUPE-BLANCO RIVER AUTHORITY APPROACHED THE CITY OF KYLE REGARDING THIS PROJECT AND THE INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING. OUR INITIAL PARTICIPATION IN THE PROJECT WAS APPROXIMATELY 5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. THE AMOUNT REDUCED. THE AMOUNT WAS REDUCED BY GRAGA TO 4.1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY DUE TO A REDUCED ALLOCATION THAT WAS BASED ON GBRA CUSTOMER PARTICIPATION. SINCE THEN, A MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING WAS EXECUTED AT THE JULY 1ST, 2025 COUNCIL MEETING FOR UP TO 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TO CHARLIE AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

CHARLIE, JUST JUST A RIGHT CLICK ON THAT. SURE. THANK YOU. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I KNOW IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT A REMARKABLE TIME TO BE DEALING WITH ALL THIS GROWTH AND TALKING ABOUT THESE BIG THINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, THE THE IDEAS I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY ARE REALLY NOT MY OWN. WHEN I GOT TO GBRA 15 YEARS AGO, THE FRAMEWORK FOR THESE HAD ALREADY BEEN LAID BY THE PEOPLE THAT CAME BEFORE ME, AND THEY'D TAKEN STEPS TO SECURE THE ABILITY TO DO A BIG WATER PROGRAM LIKE THIS. I DID EXPECT THAT I WOULD HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE GRAY HAIRS ON MY HEAD. WHEN I CAME TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT ACTUALLY MOVING IT FORWARD, I THINK THE GROWTH HAS HAPPENED FASTER THAN ANY OF US COULD HAVE IMAGINED. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WENT BEFORE OUR BOARD TO REQUEST SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS TO GO OUT AND DO THE PLANNING OF OUT OF OUR OWN FUNDS AND PUT THIS STUDY TOGETHER FOR YOU ALL. ONE OF THE EXAMPLES AND PIECES OF INFORMATION WE SHOWED THEM TO FRAME THE ISSUE WAS AN AERIAL IMAGERY OF KYLE FROM THE 2000 AND SIDE BY SIDE, WITH ONE FROM 2020, JUST TO SHOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR A COMMUNITY TO GO FROM 6000 TO 60,000 PEOPLE

[04:20:03]

BUT THE THE MODEL WE'RE PURSUING HERE REALLY FOLLOWS KIND OF THE SAME CONTRACTUAL AND DEVELOPMENT MODEL. WHAT, WHAT THIS PROJECT FOCUSES ON. YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE TWO THIRDS OF THE WATER RIGHTS ARE REPRESENTED BY THOSE BLUE ARROWS. THE TWO LOWER ONES THAT ARE INDICATED HERE IS MID BASIN AND LOWER BASIN. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT AN INFRASTRUCTURE STRATEGY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY IN THOSE WATER RIGHTS AND BRING IT TO THIS REGION. YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE'VE STUDIED AS WE PUT TOGETHER THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE LOOKED AT MULTIPLE OTHER OPTIONS. WE'VE LOOKED AT BRACKISH DESALINATION. WE HAVE LOOKED AT GOING TO WATER RICH PARTS OF THE STATE AND WORKING WITH OTHER LARGE RIVER AUTHORITIES AND REGIONAL PARTNERS TO GO GET WATER FROM PLACES LIKE EAST TEXAS. BOTH FRESH AND GROUNDWATER SUPPLIES BRING THEM TO THE REGION. WE DUSTED OFF OUR OLD OCEAN DESALINATION STUDIES AND LOOKED AT THOSE. BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE STRATEGY I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT REALLY CENTERS AROUND USING THOSE TWO EXISTING WATER RIGHTS FIRST, BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE EFFORT OF STUDYING THAT, WE IDENTIFIED THAT THAT WAS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE STRATEGY WE COULD IDENTIFY. FOR A NEXT STEP IN REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY. THE SECOND BEING, WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE PERMITS IN HAND. AND TO TRY TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF THAT, THAT BASIN PERMIT GBRA APPLIED FOR THAT IN 2004, AND IT WAS GRANTED BY THE STATE IN 2020. SO IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET ACCESS TO THESE THINGS. AND WE DO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE CURRENTLY. SO REALLY, WHAT WOULD BE WE WOULD BE PARTNERING IN, IN WORKING TOGETHER IN THIS PROGRAM IS NOT GOING OUT AND SECURING WATER RIGHTS. IT IS DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BRING THESE EXISTING RIGHTS TO THIS REGION. SO HERE'S A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THROUGH THE STUDIES. WE'VE DONE. EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN BROWN THERE REPRESENTS RAW WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND BLUE REPRESENTS TREATED WATER INFRASTRUCTURE. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT A CONCEPT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BACKBONE OF THE PROGRAM, I'LL SAY IS DIVERTING WATER FROM THOSE LOWER BASIN WATER RIGHTS. THEY ARE EXTREMELY RELIABLE IN SENIOR WATER RIGHTS. AND MODELING SHOWS THAT 95% OF THE TIME, PLUS YOU CAN GET ALL THE WATER YOU NEED FROM THIS PROGRAM OUT OF THE RIVER WITHOUT BUILDING ANY STORAGE. BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE, YOU KNOW, PEAK SUMMER OF THE EXTREME DROUGHTS, SOME ADDITIONAL STORAGE IS NEEDED TO GET PAST THOSE. SO WE HAVE PLANNED AND OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIR DOWN THERE, AND THEN ALL THAT RAW WATER WOULD BE PUMPED UP TOWARDS THE GONZALEZ AREA, WHERE IT WOULD THEN BE TREATED AND SENT OUT THROUGH ALL THE BLUE DISTRIBUTION PIPELINES TO VARIOUS END USERS THAT WANT TO PARTNER IN THE PROGRAM. WE WOULD ALSO COUPLE THAT WITH THE IT SAYS ASR STORAGE THAT STANDS FOR AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY. YOU HEARD ABOUT ONE THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED HERE AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL. THIS WOULD BE A REGIONAL TYPE AQUIFER AND STORAGE RECOVERY FACILITY WHERE SEVERAL YEARS WORTH OF SUPPLY WOULD BE STORED UNDERGROUND AND THEN PULLED OUT DURING DROUGHTS. SO YOU ALSO SEE BRACKISH GROUNDWATER ON THERE. ALL OF THE THE COSTS THAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TONIGHT ARE BASED AROUND JUST THE SURFACE WATER COMPONENTS, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO EVALUATE HOW BRACKISH GROUNDWATER AND DESALINATION OF BRACKISH GROUNDWATER COULD BE INCORPORATED IN THIS PROGRAM.

WE'VE JUST IDENTIFIED THAT IT'S NOT THE BEST STANDALONE OPTION FOR US TO PRESENT, BUT IT DEFINITELY A VIABLE WAY TO INTEGRATE INTO OUR PROGRAM. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE HOW FAR AWAY YOU HAVE TO GO TO GET ACCESS TO THOSE HIGH VOLUME TYPES. BRACKISH, YOU KNOW, THE AREA INDICATED HERE KIND OF IN THE CENTRAL PART OF THE BASIN IS HOW FAR AWAY THOSE SUPPLIES ARE. THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE LOCALLY IN ANY SIGNIFICANT VOLUME. SO THAT'S REALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE CONCEPT. THE DRIVER FOR THE PROJECT REALLY STARTED WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE

[04:25:02]

AND THERE'S 750,000 PEOPLE NOW SITTING BETWEEN AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO IN OUR REGION. THE GREEN LINE REPRESENTS WHAT'S COMING OUT IN THE IN THE 2027 STATE WATER PLAN. YOU KNOW, WE PREVIOUSLY WERE LOOKING AT A NEW DEMAND NEEDED THAT WAS EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT ANOTHER CANYON LAKE OVER THE 50 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON. AND WE HAD STRATEGIES IDENTIFIED TO MEET THAT NEED. THIS NEW DEMAND PROJECTION SHOWS AN ADDITIONAL 3.7 MILLION PEOPLE COMING TO JUST THAT REGION BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS. AND WHAT THIS GRAPH BASICALLY SAYS IS THE REGION NEEDS THREE CANYON LAKES WORTH OF WATER TO MEET THAT DEMAND.

AND SO THE STRATEGY I'M TALKING ABOUT IS REALLY JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN ONE CANYON LAKE.

IT'S NOT THE ANSWER TO MEET ALL OF THIS DEMAND. WE JUST LOOK AT IT AS THE LOGICAL NEXT STEP. SO IF YOU NEED ONE MORE EXAMPLE, JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE POPULATION GROWTH IN ONE YEAR FROM 23 TO 24, YOU CAN SEE HAYS COUNTY RIGHT THERE, ONE OF THE FASTEST ONES, 4 TO 6% POPULATION GROWTH IN ONE YEAR. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVER FOR THE PROJECT. SO REALLY WHAT WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THIS POINT. I MENTIONED THOSE POPULATION PROJECTIONS CAME OUT IN THE SUMMER OF 23. WE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT WENT AROUND AND PRESENTED THAT INFORMATION TO ALL THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT WATER DISTRICTS, MUNICIPALITIES IN OUR REGION THAT WE PARTNER WITH AND KIND OF WENT TO GO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH OF THAT GROWTH DID THE COMMUNITIES FEEL LIKE WAS WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO POTENTIALLY PLAN FOR? AND WE TOOK ALL THAT INFORMATION AND DEVELOPED THIS CONCEPTUAL WATER SUPPLY PROJECT AND STARTED DEVELOPING THE COST. AND SO IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE TOOK THAT INFORMATION, WE STARTED THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING. WHAT ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES OF THAT WAS TO REALLY DIVE INTO WHAT IS IT GOING TO COST TO DELIVER THE WATER. WE DIDN'T JUST SIT DOWN WITH OUR OWN STAFF AND USE PREVIOUS BID TABS TO COME UP WITH THOSE ESTIMATES. WE HIRED AN ENGINEERING FIRM WITH OUR OWN NATIONAL CONSTRUCTION PRACTICE THAT HELPED DEVELOP THOSE ESTIMATES AND REQUIRED THEM TO GO OUT AND HIRE THE SERVICES OF TWO VERY LARGE CONTRACTORS, ONE NATIONAL CONTRACTOR AND ONE A LOCAL REGIONAL FACILITIES CONTRACTOR, TO COME AND DO THREE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT ESTIMATES AND PUT TOGETHER THIS PRICES, BECAUSE REALLY, THE GOAL OF THIS WAS TO GIVE ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES ENOUGH UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE COST OF THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE SIGNING AN AGREEMENT. WE DID NOT COLLECT ANY ANY TYPE OF MONEY UP FRONT TO DO THAT. SO WE WENT AROUND IN THE SUMMER OF 2025 AND PRESENTED THE RESULTS OF THAT STUDY. WE INITIALLY HAD ABOUT 25 ENTITIES THAT HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST AND ACTUALLY REQUESTED A VOLUME OF WATER THAT WAS GREATER THAN WHAT WE COULD SUPPLY OUT OF THE PROJECT.

ONCE WE GOT THROUGH THAT PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, WE WENT THROUGH AND DID ANOTHER ROUND OF COMMUNICATION AND DEVELOPED A PROCESS FOR TAKING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS STILL A NON NON-BINDING NON FUNDING AGREEMENT JUST FOR THE VARIOUS BOARDS TO EXPRESS. YOU KNOW, AFTER SEEING THE COST, HERE'S OUR DESIRED INTEREST AND CONTINUING TO STUDY THIS REGIONAL OPPORTUNITY. AND IT WENT DOWN TO 15 ENTITIES THAT SIGNED THE MOU. SO WE TOOK THAT AND HIRED A PROGRAM MANAGER TO HELP US START PUTTING TOGETHER THE PROGRAM. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE DISTRIBUTED DRAFT WATER SUPPLY AGREEMENTS. AND SO THOSE HAVE BEEN SENT OUT. WE'VE BEEN GETTING FEEDBACK FROM VARIOUS ENTITIES. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE SIT TODAY, IS WORKING ON THE EXECUTION OF THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO START THIS PROGRAM. SO JUST TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THAT WATER SUPPLY AGREEMENT. WE'VE BROKEN UP THE FUNDING OF THE PROJECT INTO FOUR INFRASTRUCTURE BUCKETS, BECAUSE WE HAVE VARIOUS LEVELS OF PARTICIPATION, FOR EXAMPLE, DOWN HERE AND WHAT WE CALL THE LOWER BASIN NEAR CALHOUN COUNTY, WE'VE GOT SOME EXISTING CUSTOMERS THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE ONLY IN THESE FACILITIES, BUT NOT SOME OF THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TO GO UPSTREAM. SO TO DEAL WITH THAT, WE'VE KIND OF SPLIT IT INTO FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WOULD ALL HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL BOND PACKAGES. THE LOWER BASIN

[04:30:02]

[04:35:01]

IT'S GONE UP TO A LITTLE OVER 200 NOW. IS THERE ANYTHING BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT THAT CAPS THAT AMOUNT? SO THAT WAY WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE EXECUTION OF THIS, WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY JUST SIGNING OURSELVES UP FOR LIKE SOME EVER INCREASING RATE. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO BE KNOWN. SO THAT RATE IS ACTUALLY OUR RAW WATER RATE, THE SAME RATE YOU'LL PAY OUT OF CANYON EACH YEAR. AND SO IT'S, IT'S, IT WILL BE REFLECTED AT THAT RATE AS WE BRING THIS WATER SUPPLY ONLINE, THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE MORE WATER THAT WE'RE SHARING IN THAT COST FOR. SO THE HOPE IS THAT IT WON'T CONTINUE TO, TO, TO IT'S BEEN INCREASING, YOU KNOW, 4 TO 5% FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. OKAY. AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE NOT GONE OVER THAT. I'M HOPEFUL THAT, THAT IT WILL EITHER STAY AT THAT PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER RATE THAN THAT. ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO COMBINE THAT WITH OUR CANYON WATER, BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY OUR RAW WATER RATE. AND THAT RATE IS USED TO PROTECT OUR WATER, WATER RIGHTS AND SUPPORT OF OUR WATER RIGHTS ACROSS THE BASIN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU. NO, I THINK YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. SO, MAYOR, WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE ITEM THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS OUR OUR SORRY, AS FAR AS OUR WATER PORTFOLIO IS CONCERNED. AND THIS IS THE USE OF INDIRECT AND DIRECT POTABLE REUSE. AND SO THIS THIS IS. A GREAT

[04:40:12]

IT'S A VERY SIMPLE PROCESS. YOU GOT WASTEWATER COLLECTION WHICH IS YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. YOU TAKE ADVANCED TREATMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING RIGHT NOW AND AT OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRODUCING WHAT IS CALLED TYPE ONE WATER, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST THING TO POTABLE WATER THAT YOU CAN BASICALLY HAVE WITHOUT TREATMENT. SO IT GOES INTO AN ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER. LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT LAKES, RIVER, NOT REALLY A RIVER, BUT BUT IT COULD OR A BODY OF WATER THAT IT IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE WASTEWATER. AND YOU MINGLE THEM TOGETHER AND YOU GO THROUGH A WATER TREATMENT PROCESS JUST LIKE WE DO RIGHT NOW FOR POTABLE WATER. AND THEN YOU CLEAN IT AND YOU REUSE IT TO A WATER. FOR WATER CUSTOMERS DIRECT POTABLE REUSE OR IS IS VERY SIMPLE. IT JUST TAKES OUT THAT ONE COMPONENT OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER. IT GOES TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THEN IT GOES INTO A WE TREAT IT TO OUR TYPE ONE WATER. THEN IT GOES INTO A WATER TREATMENT FACILITY, GOES INTO OUR SYSTEM, VERY SIMPLE PROCEDURE. SO AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TIM. HE'S GOING TO WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS AND THEN WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE INVOLVED IN THAT. SO TIM, THERE YOU ARE. HERE I AM. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. SO JASON UNFORTUNATELY LEFT US. I WAS GOING TO GIVE HIM A HARD TIME ABOUT ALL THE TREES HE MADE US PLANT AT OUR PR D PR FACILITY.

THIS AI. BUT I THINK I DON'T THINK WE CAN EMPHASIZE ENOUGH. I DON'T THINK WE CAN EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS SOURCE OF WATER IS RELIABLE AND IT'S DROUGHT RESISTANT. IT'S A SOURCE OF WATER THAT WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PURCHASE. WE OWN IT. AND IT ALSO LETS US TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL OF OUR WATER SUPPLY. THE MAJORITY OF THE SUPPLIES THAT WE HAVE TODAY, WE DON'T NECESSARILY CONTROL THOSE. WE HAVE PERMITS FOR OUR WELLS, BUT THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE DO PURCHASE IS PURCHASED THROUGH GREAT PARTNERSHIPS LIKE GBRA. AND IN THE FUTURE, DO OTHER PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL. SO WE WANT TO MAKE THE MOST USE OF THAT WATER TO THE MOST CAPABILITIES THAT WE THAT WE HAVE. SO AGAIN, WE JUST REALLY KIND OF PUT THIS TOGETHER TO GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THIS MAY LOOK LIKE, OUR FACILITY IN THE FUTURE. HOPEFULLY IT'LL LOOK LIKE SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE.

SO I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. JUST KIND OF REITERATING AGAIN, COLLEGE WASTEWATER

[04:45:04]

THEY DON'T HAVE A SET SET OF STANDARDS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU FOLLOW. IT'S ALL GOING TO BE FOLLOWED BASED ON WHAT YOUR POLLUTANT LEVELS ARE COMING INTO THE FACILITY AND WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THE FACILITY. BLESS YOU. SO THE DPR THAT'S WE'RE LOOKING TO COME TO YOU ON OCTOBER THE 5TH. WE DO EXPECT, THOUGH, WE'RE NOT BRINGING A COST TO YOU AT THAT TIME. WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU AN EXPECTATION OF WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AT A LATER DATE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY $500,000, AND THAT PLAN IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO COMPLETE. AND AGAIN, THAT'S COROLLA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING COUNCIL APPROVE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE THAT SCOPE AND THAT THAT FEE. AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE IPRDPR FACILITY, A FACILITY IN THE REALM OF 3 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AVERAGE. THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF THAT WILL LOOK AROUND $143 MILLION. AND WE ANTICIPATE WITH CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN NO EARLIER THAN 2031 AND REQUIRE TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BLAKE TO FINISH US OUT ON THE NEXT STEPS, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. SO THIS IS JUST A MAINLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO PROVIDE US FEEDBACK AND KIND OF YOUR OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS ON, ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY WITH THESE WATER SUPPLIES ARE KIND OF ALL COMING TO A HEAD AT THE SAME TIME. SO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BRING THEM TOGETHER AND HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION. JUST TO REITERATE, AS TV'S FINALIZING THE UPDATE TO THE WATER MASTER PLAN, WE'LL HAVE THAT NEXT MONTH, OCTOBER 5TH, WE'LL BE BRINGING THE ITEM FOR THE IPAD PAIR WITH COROLLA. JABARI MENTIONED THEY ANTICIPATE THE THE CONTRACTS FOR THAT. THE FINANCING TO HAPPEN IN THE SPRING OF 2027. THEY IDEALLY NEED THAT CONTRACT BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A 90 DAY PERIOD TO WITHDRAWAL. SO IF WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, OUR MOU IS FOR TEN MGD. IT CAN BE FOR ANY AMOUNT THAT THAT THAT THE CITY DETERMINES. NRA IS A REMINDER. WE OUR SECOND RESERVATION FEE IS IS DUE AT THE END OF OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR. WE HAVE FACTORED THAT IN. IT IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET. SO THAT ADDITIONAL RESERVATION FEE AT THIS TIME, IF YOU IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. A POSSIBILITY IS, IS NEGOTIATING WITH WITH NRA FOR A TIME EXTENSION. THERE'S OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE COME ON AS A MAYOR MENTIONED, BEYOND THE OCTOBER PERIOD WHEN WE SIGNED UP FOR. WE CAN ASK FOR AN EXTENSION ON THAT. ALLOW THEM SOME ADDITIONAL TIME. IF IF YOU SO CHOOSE, IF YOU WOULD. THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE TO, TO STAFF OR WE HAVE PAID THE FIRST RESERVATION FEE, WHICH IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A FIVE MGD. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO, TO NEGOTIATE AND CALL IT GOOD AT THAT FIVE MGD AMOUNT, SINCE WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN IT. SO LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK, YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR OPINIONS. I KNOW IT'S LATE, BUT WE WOULD WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY ANY IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. QUESTIONS COMMENTS? COUNCILMEMBER MEDINA JUST ONE QUESTION. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE SECOND PAYMENT FOR THE NRA WAS ALREADY FACTORED INTO THE BUDGET, THE UPCOMING BUDGET, SINCE THIS CONVERSATION IS HAPPENING SO CLOSE TO THE BUDGET, IS THE POSSIBLE 500 000 FOR THE IPRDPR FACTORED INTO THE BUDGET? YES, YES, IT'S ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET. OKAY, PERFECT. THANKS. MAYOR PRO TEM ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE LONG. I KNOW IT WAS A LONG PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE THAT WE GET THESE UPDATES BECAUSE MY, MY, MY COMMENT WOULD BE GOING BACK FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC,

[04:50:06]

AND THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE ENGINEERING ITSELF TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ACTUALLY PUMPING THAT WATER ALL THE WAY THROUGH UP TO THIS AREA, HOW, HOW IT'S BEING UTILIZED AND HOW IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AT THE VERY END, OUT OF ALL THE ENGINEERING, IT JUST COMES DOWN TO THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S CRAZY, YOU KNOW. SO WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. IS THERE A REASON ASR WASN'T INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION? ASR PROJECT IS CURRENTLY ON HOLD AS PART OF OUR ONE OF OUR BUDGET REDUCTIONS ON CAPITAL

[04:55:02]

SO WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE FIRST PHASE OF ASR WHICH WE WHICH WAS A FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT STEVE CONDUCTED. AND YOU GOT THE COST ON THAT. BLAKE. SO THE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR A FIRST PHASE FOR OUR FIRST. WELL AND ASSOCIATED FACILITIES WAS AROUND WAS AROUND $15 MILLION ADDITIONAL WELLS. I THINK THE FULL, FULL AMOUNT FOR THE FULL BUILD OUT WAS, WAS CLOSER TO $50 MILLION. OKAY. I THINK FOR ME, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO CONTINUED TO BUILD OUR OWN LOCAL STRENGTH, RIGHT. AND ASR IS A HUGE PART OF THAT. AND IT ALSO SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE MORE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS OF ALL THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. SO I GUESS I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK INTO, BECAUSE I THINK A BIG PART OF ENSURING THAT, DID WE JUST GET TRAPPED IN HERE? I THINK A BIG PART OF THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH THAT WE CAN IMAGINE COMING HERE IN, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTED, HOWEVER MANY YEARS, 40, 50 YEARS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE IDENTIFY WAYS THAT CAN GROW WITH THE POPULATION THAT WE HAVE AS IT'S GROWING. AND SO I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER ASR. MIKE, WHAT IS THE RECOVERY RATE ON ASR? WAS IT LIKE 60%? WE LOST 40% OF THE WATER. YEAH. SO IF I COULD MY GOOD BUDDY HERE. SO WE ALL KNOW THAT BLAKE WAS WORKED IN THE CITY OF BUDA AS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS THERE. AND THEY ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED AN ASR FACILITY. SO YOU WANT TO GIVE US SOME. SURE. SO IT DEPENDS ON, ON, ON WHERE YOU'RE INJECTING. IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE LOOKING INTO A SALINE AQUIFER, IT IS MORE THE RECOVERABILITY IS, IS CLOSER TO 50% DEPENDING ON THE AQUIFER AND THE CONDITIONS, YOU CAN GET UP TO 90% RECOVERABILITY. AND THAT'S JUST PERMITTED THROUGH THE STATE.

IT'S THEN UP TO THE GROUNDWATER DISTRICT OF WHERE YOU'RE AT, WHETHER YOU CAN RECOVER THE FULL 100% OR NOT. BUT THAT'S A A PERMITTING AND POLICY DECISION THAT HAS TO COME FROM GROUNDWATER DISTRICT. OKAY. SO THAT'S STILL USING WATER THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR, THOUGH, CORRECT? CORRECT. AND SO THE, THE, THE CONCEPT AND WE SAW IT EARLIER, YOU HAVE YOUR, IT'S FIRMING UP THAT PERMITTED SUPPLY. SO WE HAVE THAT PERMITTED SUPPLY. AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT GAP BETWEEN WHAT'S ACTUALLY OUR FIRM. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TURNING THAT FIRM INTO OUR PERMITTED INTO A FULLY FIRMED. SO WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THAT WATER. AND WHETHER WE USE IT OR NOT, GBRA ALLIANCE, EVEN OUR GROUNDWATER SOURCES. SO THAT'S A WAY THAT WE CAN TUCK IT AWAY FOR, FOR TIMES WHEN WE ACTUALLY NEED IT, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR SYSTEM. I MEAN, YOU SEE THE PEAK DEMANDS DURING THE SUMMERTIME, WE'RE OUR SYSTEM IS SCREAMING, TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH WITH THOSE DEMANDS FROM IRRIGATION. AND SO THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY ON, ON ASR, I THINK YOU HEARD STEVE TALK ABOUT OUR AVERAGE DAILY RATE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IS ABOUT 4.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. AND WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING FOR, FOR THE WATER THAT WE'RE NOT USING. MOST ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS ARE TAKE OR PAY CONTRACTS. AND IF WE'RE NOT USING THAT WATER, WE'RE STILL PAYING FOR IT. SO THE BENEFIT OF, OF, OF AN ASR PROGRAM, AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, IS THAT THE WATER THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR WOULD GO INTO THE ASR AQUIFER. BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT AQUIFER STORAGE. AND SO WE PUT THAT WATER IN AQUIFER. AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE A RAINY DAY FUND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR BUDGET AND OUR FINANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT'S THAT CUSHION THAT IT WOULD HELP US.

SO OKAY, I THINK, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE I'M SORRY. I THINK FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE US TO NOT PAUSE THAT AND ACTUALLY CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE WITH THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WE'RE BRINGING OTHER THINGS ONLINE, BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO ESSENTIAL THAT IF WE'RE INVESTING IN ORDER TO HELP FEED THIS WATER SUPPLY, THAT WHEN WE'RE UTILIZING, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GETTING THE MOST BANG FOR THEIR BUCK. SO IF, IF THERE'S WAYS FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UTILIZING EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, EVEN IF IT'S AT A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF LIKE LOSS RATE THAT'S ATTACHED TO IT, BUT WE'RE LOSING 100% OF IT RIGHT NOW IF WE DON'T USE IT. SO, YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER GET 60, 70, 80% OF THAT BACK VERSUS JUST

[05:00:04]

SO YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO INJECT AT A HIGHER RATE TO GET IT IN THERE, BUT YOU ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO MOVE TOO MUCH. BUT SO WITH ASR, YOU WANT TO BUILD YOUR BUBBLE UP AND SO THAT YOU'RE NOT ENCROACHING OR PULLING IN ANY NATIVE WATER, YOU'RE ONLY PULLING OUT THE WATER THAT YOU INJECTED. SO THERE'S WAYS THAT THAT THROUGH MODELING AND THEN ALSO THROUGH WATER QUALITY SAMPLING THAT CITIES DO TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT PULLING OUT THAT THAT NATIVE WATER. OKAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING OUR IS CLEAR SIDES. THEY'RE PART OF IOWA AS WELL, IS WHAT IS IT CALLED? CLEAR SIDES. CRYSTAL CLEAR. CRYSTAL. CRYSTAL CLEAR.

YES. CRYSTAL CLEAR. SO ARE WE BUYING THEIR IOWA SUPPLY? YES. BECAUSE OURS IS NOT ALL OF THEIR SUPPLY, NOT ALL OF THEIR SUPPLY. THEY'RE GIVING US A A PORTION OR A PIECE OF THEIR SUPPLY, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH GREEN VALLEY NOW. WE ARE WORKING. YOU REMEMBER MICHAEL SEDONA CAME UP HERE WHEN WE SIGNED OUR WHEN WE APPROVED THAT AGREEMENT WITH CRYSTAL CLEAR. AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM FOR ADDITIONAL WORK BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW IS FIND GAP WATER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL IT, BUT THE GAP THAT STEVE WAS TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE THE WE CAN'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE ALLIANCE WATER UNTIL JANUARY OF 2029. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR GAP WATER TO FILL THAT GAP IN. AND THAT'S ALLIANCE WATER. THAT'S ALLIANCE WATER. OKAY. YES. SO THAT'S MY THIS IS KIND OF. AND THAT'S THE CHEAPEST WATER OUT THERE. I'M KIND OF FRUSTRATED BECAUSE WE HAVE A DELAY WITH.

ARWA. YES. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE A DELAY WITH ARWA. THEN WE GOT TO PAY THIS OTHER COMPANY TO GET THEIR. ARWA WATER. AND THAT'S LIKE $6,000 A MONTH. YES, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. AND IT'S NOT I MEAN, WHY IS THERE A DELAY? IT'S NOT OUR FAULT. IT'S NOT THE CITY'S FAULT. THAT'S RIGHT. THERE'S THERE'S AND GRAHAM WENT OVER THAT IN HIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DELAYS AND WHAT HAS CAUSED THEM. MOSTLY IT WAS FROM THE THE WATER WITH HIGH IRON CONTENT IN IT. AND SO THE COST OF DOING THAT AND THE COST OF SETTING UP THAT FACILITY HAS PUT THEM BEHIND SCHEDULE. OH, GRAHAM IS STILL HERE NOW. YEAH. GRAHAM, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS. YEAH. SO SO DEALING WITH THAT ELEVATED IRON LEVELS IN THE RAW WATER HAS CAUSED US TO BE DELAYED IN OUR PRODUCTION SCHEDULE IN ORDER TO GET THE WATER DELIVERED, THE ADDITIONAL WATER DELIVERED TO THE CITY OF KYLE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REPRESENTING NOW IS JANUARY OF 2029. AND IT'S ALSO CAUSED US TO HAVE TO BUY WATER FROM THE SAME SOURCE. IT IS THE SAME WATER. IT IS BUYING CAPACITY FROM THOSE OTHER. SO HOW COME THEY DON'T HAVE AN IRON ISSUE? IT'S ALL THE WATER HAS THE IRON ISSUE IN IT. SO THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE TREATMENT AS WELL. SO I MEAN IT'S THE RAW WATER IS WHERE THE THE SOURCE PROBLEM IS. AND SO THE DIFFERENCE IS THEY DON'T NEED ALL OF THEIR WATER RIGHT NOW. KYLE IS IN A POSITION WHERE IT NEEDS MORE WATER SOONER. SO THEY'RE ABLE TO LEASE WATER TO KYLE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. AND THEN THEY WILL NEED THAT WATER BACK EVENTUALLY. SO IT'S A MATTER OF THE TIMING OF THE NEED THAT THAT IS DIFFERENT BETWEEN KYLE, THE SITUATION. KYLE DIFFERENTLY THAN CRYSTAL CLEAR OR GREEN VALLEY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR WE PREPAID OR WE WERE GOING TO PREPAY GB WITH CASH AND THAT WOULD DROP THE CHARGES A LITTLE BIT. DID THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN? I'M NOT SURE.

[05:05:01]

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE. ALL RIGHT. SO DID YOU GUYS WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE OTHER TWO ITEMS? ARE YOU DONE FOR THE

[III.4) Receive a report, hold a discussion, and provide staff feedback regarding the Lehman Ground Storage Tank logo.]

WE ALLOW THE THE ARTS AND ARTS AND CULTURAL COMMISSION TO MAYBE RECREATE THE LOGO OR WORK WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL TO DO A LOGO. I THINK THAT COMMISSION NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF WORK.

KEEP THEM BUSY. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE GOOD. I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT LOGOS ON DIFFERENT WATER TANKS. AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE ONE OVER BY VERDE AND WE'RE GOING TO GET A NEW ONE OVER THERE BY 158 THAT WILL HAVE THE CITY LOGO ON IT, WHICH I BELIEVE IT ALREADY DOES. OKAY. AND THERE'S OTHER JUST SO TO MAKE SURE IT'S KNOWN THAT THERE ARE ONLY TANK THAT HAS A NON TRADITIONAL LOGO IS THE VERDE TANK. AND WHEN THIS ONE TO. RIGHT. I'M SORRY. YES THIS ONE. SORRY. WELL I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF TAKING AWAY THE LOBOS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE SOMETHING. I MEAN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DARK. I KNOW THEY ARE. MAYBE JUST AN OUTLINE OR

[05:10:04]

AND MARK IT IT'D BE BEST THAT WE JUST KEEP IT FOR THAT. KEEP THE SAME LOOK. WELL THE LOGO NOW IS DIFFERENT. YEAH THAT'S. YES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ADD. YEAH. SO WE THE LOBO, REACH OUT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND SEE IF WE COULD USE THAT. I MEAN, WOULD THAT BE A CONSIDERATION, REACHING OUT INSTEAD OF OUR ARTS TO REACH OUT TO OUR DISTRICT AND ASK THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'D STILL LIKE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT CAMARADERIE WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT IF WE COULD JUST USE THE NEW LOGO, IF THEY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT, THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK AND GO SOMETHING ELSE. OR, I MEAN, NO, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND I'M SURE WITH WITH ALL THE ADVANCEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY, I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME STUDENTS THAT WOULD COULD PROBABLY DO A CAD FILE OR SOMETHING THAT OUR ENGINEERING GROUP COULD JUST TAKE THAT AND RUN WITH IT. SO, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE IT TO THE BOARD TO LOOK AT FIRST. I SUGGEST WE GO WITH WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT BOARD? IS THE BOARD BUSY AT ALL? BOARD MEETS MONTHLY. OKAY. DO THEY ARE THEY WORKING ON STUFF RIGHT NOW. THEY HAVE THEY HAVE ITEMS ON THEIR AGENDA. YES, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I LIKE MY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND I LIKE THEIR INPUT. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S OUR RESIDENT INPUT BACK ON THIS. I

[05:15:01]

AND THIS GIVES US RESIDENT FEEDBACK. IT'S RESIDENTS. THEY CARE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. SO WELL, IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO THE CULTURAL, THE ARTS AND CULTURE, THEN I'M OKAY WITH JUST, I GUESS, BRINGING IT BACK TO US FROM A STUDENT. LIKE, HOW IS THAT GOING TO LOOK? YES, YOU COULD DIRECT US TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL IN OUR BRING BACK ANY SORT OF PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO EXECUTE THAT AND THEN POSSIBLY CHARGE AN ART STUDENT AT. LEHMAN HIGH SCHOOL TO COME UP WITH THE LOGO AND WHAT IT WHAT IT DOES, REACH OUT TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, BUT WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING PRETTY QUICK. OR IS IT WHAT'S THE TURNAROUND THAT YOU WOULD NEED IN NOVEMBER? RIGHT. I'M THINKING IF THEY GET IT SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER, OKAY, THAT WE CAN DO, THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO THE BID AND IT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE FOR US. THEY CAN MAKE A COMPETITION OUT OF IT. I MEAN, CAN BE FUN. YEAH. THEY CAN BOX EACH OTHER. SAY, HEY, HERE'S A CHANCE TO PUT YOUR STAPLE ON THE THE TOWER WITH WHATEVER LOGO OR JUST KEEP IT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY HAVE AN UPDATED LOGO, CORRECT? LIKE ONE WOULD NOT NEED TO BE CREATED. NO. CORRECT. OKAY.

BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IS LIKE, EITHER WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT BACK TO A STUDENT TO RECREATE, OR WE JUST GO AND ASK THEM, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING. WE JUST WANT TO DO THE UPDATED LOGO. SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE. WELL, YOU CAN HAVE LIKE THE LAYMAN AND THE LOBOS. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE I MEAN, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR REGULAR. THE LOGO, BUT I THINK WHAT THEY MEANT WAS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU MEANT WAS CREATING THE DESIGN OF THE LOGO, JUST HAVING THE FILE AND THE DESIGN, SOMEONE HAS TO CREATE IT. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK THEY WERE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT LIKE, OH, LET'S HAVE A COMPETITION AND LEAVE YOUR MARK.

AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, COULDN'T WE DON'T WE JUST THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH, THERE'S A WHOLE ASSORTMENT. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT LIKE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE STAFF GO BACK AND LIKE CREATE SOME SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, GIANT, LIKE ART SUBMISSION AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, HAVE RECREATED AND WHATNOT. AND JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE, THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PUTTING THESE LOGOS ON. DO YOU WANT US TO INCLUDE THAT? YOU WANT US TO ABSORB THAT COST, OR DO YOU WANT US TO PASS THAT COST ON? NO, WE CAN ABSORB IT.

OKAY. AND THEN THEN SECONDLY, DO YOU WANT US TO COME BACK WITH A LOGO POLICY FOR OUR FACILITIES, PLEASE? OKAY. YES. SO THERE WAS A MOTION AND A SECOND, BUT THE MOTION WAS JUST TO APPROVE. NUMBER TWO, DO WE NEED TO AMEND IT SO IT NO. OPTION TWO IS TO USE THE LOGO.

SO WE'LL USE WHATEVER LOGO THEY HAVE. ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MCKINNEY. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.